**** Conference [ 15] - (Fido) CD ROM for Sale

From: WAYNE ASHWORTH                         Number: 1
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/28/93 11:35p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Would appreciate being added to the mailing list, adult titles included.

Wayne Ashworth
POB 882
Salisbury NC 28145-0882

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2
  To: CHRIS BARRETT                            Date: 05/27/93  8:47a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CB>   Yep, I am interested in the Adult stuff (even if I don't have a hope in
h 
  >of getting them into Canada! <smile>). 
 
Consider yourself added.  I'll get one out to you.  Where there's a 
will, there's a way! <G> 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3
  To: DENNIS BRIGGS                            Date: 05/27/93  8:48a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DB>Add me to your list please. 
 
You got it, Dennis.  You should see it in the mail real soon.  Thanks 
for your interest. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4
  To: DEAN SCOTT                               Date: 05/27/93  8:50a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DS>I'll take one of those catalogs. 
 
I'll get one right out to you, Dean.  Thanks for your interest! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 05/27/93  8:52a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CB>Chris Bourne 
 
Thanks, Chris.  I'll get one right out to you. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 6
  To: ERIC NELSON                              Date: 05/27/93  8:55a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EN>Please include my name to your mailing list, also include adult titles. 
 
Consider yourself included, Eric.  Thanks for your interest! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 7
  To: PIERRE PROULX                            Date: 05/27/93  8:57a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PP>Please add my name to your mailing list 
 
You're added, Pierre.  Thanks for your interest! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 8
  To: TIM DOWELL                               Date: 05/27/93  9:51a
Subj: Pioneer DRM 604X                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TD>I have Pioneer DRM-604X that I would like to sell.  It's three  months
old, 
  >works like a charm, and is in excellent condition. 
 
Hi Tim.  I am interested in this.  Please give me a call at (205) 
793-4481 to discuss arrangements.  Thanks. 
 
                                                Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 9
  To: DAN CEPPA                                Date: 05/28/93 11:39p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC>Please send me one, Thanks 
 
Sure thing, Dan.  I'll get one out to you.  Thanks for your interest! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 10
  To: PAUL JANEL                               Date: 05/28/93 11:40p
Subj: Free cd-rom catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PJ>I would like a catalog sent to me at the following address: 
 
You're on the list, Paul.  You may already have the list by the time you 
get this message.  Let me know if I can help you with anything. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 11
  To: THE SISTER                               Date: 05/28/93 11:45p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >       Please Add me to your mailing list. I run a Mostly Adult BBS in
Iowa. 
  >I can be reached at the Below Fido Address and Snail Mail at the
Following: 
 
I'll get you a price list out in the mail.  Maybe I can supply what you 
are looking for.  Thanks for asking! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: GREGORY YERXA                          Number: 12
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/26/93  5:10p
Subj: CDs                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        I am interested in any cheap ($10-$20) CDs.  I just got a drive
and want to establisha file base for a BBS.  All shareware please.  I will
also be interested in Game CDs (Cheap though).

Thanks,

Greg

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 13
  To: MARIO BONELLI                            Date: 05/28/93  5:45p
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den Inc. CD Complaint!  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to ALL <05-26-93 23:20> Mario Bonelli wrote:

MB>> It is taking too long for you guys to come up with another CD! :^)
                                   ^^^^

You mean "Gal", yes ? Be patient, they are in the works :)

MB>> What are your availble titles, and are there anymore in the making?

Secret.

MB>> I own Ecstasy Hot Pics, and Busty Babes!

You have impeccable taste !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: JIM CLEMENTS                           Number: 14
  To: JOHN HUGHES                              Date: 05/28/93 12:00p
Subj: OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JH>I'm looking for the Oxford English Dictionary. Does anyone know who
JH>has the best price? The suggested retail price for the two-disk set is
JH>$895.


The OED II at about $895 U.S. is one disc. There was an earlier two-disc
DOS version (only the original OED, none of them OED II updates). If you
are going to spend that kind of money, make sure you are getting the OED
II. Cheers!
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From: IAN LEVSTEIN                           Number: 15
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/28/93  4:54p
Subj: Encyclopedia Britannica                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Has the Encylopedia Britannica been released on CD yet?  If so, could you
give me an idea of the cost, and the distributor.


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From: JEAN-GUY PARE                          Number: 16
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 05/28/93  7:09a
Subj: Re: NEW GAMES DISK                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Allo Boris,

-> Already on it's way Jean !!!

     Thank, I try to sent you a net mail direct on your bbs, your modem
answer
but he dont accept my messsage, is the trouble is on my or your side?
    Thank for your CD list.

         Jean-Guy
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From: DOUG ADAMS                             Number: 17
  To: ROGER COLLINS                            Date: 05/28/93 12:53a
Subj: Adult ROMs Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RC>-> RC>I can offer 20.00 shipped pre-paid for Volcano. Acceptable?
RC>Call m
RC>-> RC>at 614-793-7291 if so.
RC>->
RC>-> I'll let you have it for $27.90.  That is $25.00 plus $2.90 for
RC>shipp
RC>-> I have yet to see Volcano at less than $36.00.  With shipping
RC>$4.00,
RC>-> totals $40.00.  I think it's a pretty good deal.
RC>->
RC>
RC>I've seen it go new for 32.95, so I feel 20.00 + shipping for a used
RC>disc is fair. If you change your mind, let me know.

Seeing as how a used CD is indistinguishable from a new CD (assuming it is
unscratched, as mine are), I don't agree.  But, it is your choice.  I'll
keep you in mind.

d

BTW, you offered $20 post-paid, not $20 plus shipping.


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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 18
  To: JERE WESSELL                             Date: 05/29/93  8:42a
Subj: ASIAN LADIES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JW>ASIAN LADIES IS PRODUCED BY SEXY CD SOFTWARE, INC
JW>                             MIAMI, FL
JW>CAN ANYONE GIVE ME A FULL ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER.
JW>I NEED TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT USING MY COPYRIGHTED GIFS ON THEIR CD ROM.
JW>JERE WESSELL
JW>NIGHTHAWK BBS (702) 644-1537
JW>LAS VEGAS, NV

If you find out, will you let me know? I'd like to talk to them myself.

Terry Woodward
The Library BBS
305-581-4983

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 19
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/93  8:47a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following Cd's for trade.
Smutware
My private collection,volume 2
Adult reference library
PC-Pix, volume 2

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 20
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/93  8:50a
Subj: CDrom Statistics                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Someone here was collecting statistics on the CDrom industry to
influence potential investors. If you have any projections from an
industry recognized source (sales of drives for next year, growth in
titles projected, revenue from the industry, etc), please post it or
netmail it to me.

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From: SCOTT STADLER                          Number: 21
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/93  9:55a
Subj: 16 bit stereo cd rom                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a 16 bit cd rom playre with 350 msec access and a 
sound card that will support soundblaster/adlib board.  I found a 
bundled package at my local Best Buy in Iowa city selling a bundled
gravis/logitech 16 bit sound card and an internal cd rom player for $399 with
only a demo cd disk and no speakers included.  Is this a
good deal, is the gravis sound board any good?
Also this store had the creative labs soundblaster 16 bundled with a
375msec drive, speakers and 5 cd titles for $589.00  Is this a good system? 
I have a 486-33 local bus machine with 8MB ram  and lots of Drive
bays so let me know whats out there I am ready to buy.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 22
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 05/29/93  7:17a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi drive audio                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > find any memory allocated to it while it's playing.  Was wondering
 > if anyone else is doing this and if you've discovered any problems
 > in doing this.  BTW it does require unplugging the speakers from
 > the Soundblaster and plugging into the drive, but if this is really
 > problem free I may buy a second set of speakers.

The simple audio players merely send a "play" command to the CD drive and 
then terminate themselves. Hence, you don't see any memory usage. The CD
will
play to the end and stop. More sophisticated interfaces let you choose what
tracks to play, etc. (like LLTSR from Sony) and will hold a small amount of
memory while they're active. Likely, if you'd route the CD's audio outputs
to 
your sound board's inputs, you wouldn't have to disconnect the speakers to
take advantage of this capability.
... What do you mean? You actually read this Tagline?!?
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From: GABE HOWARD                            Number: 23
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/93 12:02p
Subj: CDROM Retailer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Like many people here, I am also a CDROM retailer.

If you would like a catalog of over 400 CDROM titles, including games,
shareware discs, educational items, Art/Desktop publishers, Business,
Military, Health, and Research/Literature.

PLUS MUCH MORE!

Items added dialy/weekly via out support BBS (614-436-0180) and the
catalog is updated and put out monthly.

Must call each month (or leave message via here, or my BBS) to recieve a
catalog.

I can FAX the lists, however I am asking that you be serious in buying
before you ask me to do this, ESPECIALLY Long Distance.

Numbers:

614-436-9223
FAX-436-8326
BBS-436-0180

Cornerstone Computer Solutions, INC - Your link to not filing
bankruptcy.

Gabe Howard


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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 24
  To: ADAM GILBERT                             Date: 05/28/93  2:10a
Subj: TRADE WANTED                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AG> I will trade a 42mb IDE Kyocera hard drive for an internal or 
 
Would you consider selling the drive, and at what price? 
 
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From: CARL GRAHAM                            Number: 25
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 05/29/93  5:13p
Subj: prophone                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Mark...if you still have the prophone cd's I would like to get them.
Call me collect or thru echo...904-733-4403


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 26
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/30/93  8:52a
Subj: BBS CD-ROM Disc, for Remo               Refer: 3426
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> I have a used CD-Rom called Sysop in a Box that is loaded with variou

Hey Jim...

Please *don't* respond to "send me a catalog" messages - just send um a
catalog and be done with it.  Telling your customers that it's on the
way accomplishes nothing, as the catalog should arrive b4 your message.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 27
  To: MIKE SHERWOOD                            Date: 05/30/93  8:01a
Subj: OS/2                                    Refer: 3430
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> I tried to fire up your machine at work to check out OS/2, but it wou

Mike, please don't use this echo for personal correspondence... Messages
should relate to the sale of CD ROM products and should benefit
everyone.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 28
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 05/30/93  8:53a
Subj: CDrom Statistics                        Refer: 3460
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Someone here was collecting statistics on the CDrom industry to
-> influence potential investors. If you have any projections from an
-> industry recognized source (sales of drives for next year, growth in
-> titles projected, revenue from the industry, etc), please post it or
-> netmail it to me.

There's a new CD ROM magazine that covers info like this - info that
goes beyond the concerns of the end user... It's called CD-ROM Today and
is published by GP Publications...

This magazine is a step above the others I've seen... The articles look
like research papers and contain valuable info for money hunting folks
like us.  Here's their info:

GP Publications
300-A S. Westgate Dr.
Greensboro, NC 27407
(919) 852-6711

tim

p.s. I spoke to these people at COMDEX and they warmed to the idea of
somehow integrating the info that flows through this echo into their
magazine.. We'll see & we're working on it.  Again the magazine is
called "CD-ROM Today".
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 29
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/93  9:00a
Subj: Heavy Hitters                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Here are the CD ROM people who exibited at COMDEX Atlanta..

CD-ROM Today Magazine            Max Media Distributing
ACS Computer Pte. Ltd.           Adobe Systems, Inc.
Advantage Plus Dist., Inc.       American Business Info., Inc
ATI Technologies Inc.            Aztech Labs, Inc.
Creative Labs, Inc.              Delorme Mapping
Folio Corp.                      Horizons Technologies, Inc.
Killer Tracks                    McMillan New Media
Morton Management, Inc.          Multimedia World Int. Data
Multiwave Innovation Pte.Ltd     NSM Information Systems
Personal Library Software        Rainbow Technologies, Inc.
Software Sorcery                 Trace
Wizardware Ltd.                  Asia Source, Inc.
AT&T Software Replication        Blueline/Donnay
Bureau Development, Inc.         CBIS, Inc.
The CD-ROM Source                CD Technology MediAlive
Chinon America, Inc.             Control Concepts, Inc.
Datapro Info. Services Group     Discis Knowledge Research
Disc Manufacturing, Inc.         Fidelity Int'l Technologies
FirstLight, Inc.                 GP Publications, Inc.
Hitachi Home Electronics         IBM Corp.
KAO Infosystems Co.              KBTek America Inc.
Media Vision, Inc.               Micro House International
Micro Solution Comp Products     Pacific HiTech, Inc.
PC CompoNet, Inc.                PC Wholesale
Pro CD                           Rimage Corp.
Sunset Systems                   ThinKware
Toptek Technology Inc.           TradeShows Inc.
Vision Imaging                   Walnut Creek CDROM
Ziff-Davis Publishing Co.        The Blue Ribbon SoundWorks
Diamond Computer Systems Inc     Turtle Beach Systems
Koss Corp.                       Mediatrix Peripherals Inc.
American Megatrends              Chinon America, Inc.
ANTEC Incorporated               Toshiba America Info Systems
Diamond Computer Systems, Inc.   Voyetra Technologies
Rom Tech                         Newark Electronics
MGB Marketing                    MDS Distributors
Dr. T's                          Compton's New Media

tim
moderator
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 30
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/27/93 10:05p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Drive, Danvers, MA 01923-3453
>Phone: (508) 750-6600 - MASTERCARD & VISA ACCEPTED!!!!
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>CD's
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>CD-ROM caddies                                             $5
>American Business Phone Book                              $23
>Anim. Fant. 1 or 2                                        $30
>The Animals                                               $28
>Battle Chess                                              $22
>Bible library                                             $26
>Bibles & Religion                                         $13
>Britannica Select                                         $39
>Busty Babes                                               $30
>Carmen San Diego                                          $27
>CD Game Pack II                                           $26
>Chessmaster 3000                                          $27
>Clipart Goliath                                           $13
>Colossal Cookbook                                         $13
>Complete Bookshop                                         $13
>Compton Interactive Encyclopedia                         $103
>Dictionaries & Languages                                  $13
>Ecstasy                                                   $30
>Erotic Encounters                                         $30
>Gigabyte Gold                                             $31
>Groliers STW Encyclopedia (windows, or 5.0 M/M)           $53
>Hot Pix (2, 3, or 4)                                      $36
>Hot Stuff 1                                               $18
>Hot Stuff 2                                               $25
>Inspector Gadget                                          $45
>KGB-CIA Factbook                                          $31
>King's Quest 5                                            $23
>Kodak Photo CD                                            $33
>Loom                                                      $30
>Lovely Ladies II                                          $31
>Mayo Clinic                                               $97
>Microsoft Works                                           $99
>Microsoft Bookshelf                                       $65
>Mixed Up Mother Goose                                     $23
>Moving Fantasies                                          $31
>MPC Wizard                                                $14
>National Geographic Mammals                               $26
>National Parks                                            $31
>Night Owl (7 or 8)                                        $26
>OS/2 Hobbes                                               $16
>Our Solar System                                          $13
>PC Sig 11                                                 $26
>PC Sig Games                                              $16
>PC Pix (1, 2, or 3)                                       $31
>Physical Therapy                                          $16
>Pro Phone 1992                                            $33
>Pro Phone 1993                                           $107
>Publishit 2.0 (DOS)                                       $28
>Rimfire Pacific                                           $34
>Seventh Heaven                                            $31
>Seventh Guest                                             $67
>Sherlock Cons 1                                           $28
>Smutware                                                  $26
>So Much Stareware                                         $27
>Soundworks                                                $19
>Storm (I, II, or III)                                     $31
>Street Atlas USA                                          $97
>Shareware Extravaganza                                    $39
>Shareware Studio                                          $28
>Technotools                                               $13
>Too Many Typefonts                                        $13
>US Atlas w/ Automap                                       $26
>VGA Spectrum 1                                            $13
>Willy Beamish                                             $54
>Willy Beamish (OEM)                                       $22
>Windows 1993                                              $22
>Wing Commander 2/Ult. Underground                         $60
>Wing Commander 2/OPS                                      $60
>Women In Motion                                           $31
>x11R5/GNU                                                 $22
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>Prices/specifications subject to change without notice.
>Cash discount 2.5%, COD-$5 extra, requires $15 deposit.

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 31
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/27/93 10:05p
Subj: Cd-rom drives/bundles [a]               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Drive, Danvers, MA 01923-3453
>Phone: (508) 750-6600 - MASTERCARD & VISA ACCEPTED!!!!
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>CD-Rom drives                                           Price
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>>Texel 265ms SCSI internal                               $374
>   - 265ms access time
>   - 300 KB/sec data transfer rate
>   - 64 KB data buffer
>>Texel 265ms SCSI external                               $457
>>Texel internal bundle                                   $605
>   - DM-3024 internal drive
>   - SCSI interface adapter
>   - CD disc holder caddy
>   - internal SCSI cable
>   - device driver and MCSDEX CD-ROM extensions
>   - Sennheiser HD-10 stereo headphones
>   - Labtec CS-180 amplified digital stereo speakers
>   - Labtec AM-10 compact disc cleaner
>   - Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia V 5.0
>   - The San Diego Zoo's: The Animals!
>   - National parks - The Multimedia Family Guide
>   - PC-Sig Library 11th edition
>   - Nautilus multimedia Magazine, an introduction
>   - Software Toolworks game pack II
>   - music sampler CD
>   - music audio control software
>   - MPC Wizard Test and Tune-Up CD
>   - manual and warranty card
>>Texel external bundle                                   $697
>   - DM-5024 external drive
>   - SCSI interface adapter
>   - CD disc holder caddy
>   - external SCSI cable
>   - device driver and MCSDEX CD-ROM extensions
>   - Sennheiser HD-10 stereo headphones
>   - Labtec CS-180 amplified digital stereo speakers
>   - Labtec AM-10 compact disc cleaner
>   - Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia V 5.0
>   - The San Diego Zoo's: The Animals!
>   - National parks - The Multimedia Family Guide
>   - PC-Sig Library 11th edition
>   - Nautilus multimedia Magazine, an introduction
>   - Software Toolworks game pack II
>   - music sampler CD
>   - music audio control software
>   - MPC Wizard Test and Tune-Up CD
>   - manual and warranty card
>>Texel internal Multimedia bundle                        $923
>   - DM-3024 internal drive
>   - 2 CD disc holder caddies
>   - internal SCSI cable
>   - device driver and MCSDEX CD-ROM extensions
>   - Sennheiser HD-55 stereo headphones
>   - media vision Spectrum 16 16-bit stereo soundboard
>     w/ AC-MVPA cable
>   - Labtec CS-550 amplified digital stereo speakers
>   - Labtec AD-4 AC adapter for stereo speakers
>   - Labtec AM-22 deluxe microphone
>   - Labtec AM-10 compact disc cleaner
>   - compton's multimedia encyclopedia
>   - Autodesk Multimedia Explorer
>   - Sierra's King's Quest V
>   - the San Diego Zoo's: The Animals!
>   - Broderbund Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?
>     Deluxe
>   - National Parks - the multimedia Family guide
>   - PC-Sig library 11th edition
>   - Nautilus multimedia Magazine - intro
>   - Software Toolworks game pack II
>   - Music Sampler CD
>   - Music audio control software
>   - MPC Wizard Test and Tune-Up
>   - World view Media Clips
>   - manual and warranty card
>>Texel external Multimedia bundle                      $1,036
>   - DM-5024 external drive
>   - 2 CD disc holder caddies
>   - external SCSI cable
>   - device driver and MCSDEX CD-ROM extensions
>   - Sennheiser HD-55 stereo headphones
>   - media vision Spectrum 16 16-bit stereo soundboard
>   - Labtec CS-550 amplified digital stereo speakers
>   - Labtec AD-4 AC adapter for stereo speakers
>   - Labtec AM-22 deluxe microphone
>   - Labtec AM-10 compact disc cleaner
>   - compton's multimedia encyclopedia
>   - Autodesk Multimedia Explorer

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From: BRANDON QUINN                          Number: 32
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 05/28/93  7:18p
Subj: Texel DM-3024                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm within a week or two on deciding what drive to buy and where.  I
have the PAS-16 sound card and was wondering if your bare Texel DM-3024
drive includes, not only the drive, mounting rails, SCSI (50 pin) cable
and caddy, but also the 5 pin audio cable?

If not, how much is the audio cable?

Is the Texel DM-3024 the best multi-spin, SCSI drive for the money on
the market right now?

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From: ED BAILEY                              Number: 33
  To: CLIFF ESHOM                              Date: 05/28/93 12:59p
Subj: Mitsumi's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EB>works. Please be specific.

 CE>  That's good news for those of us who have just bought one :)
 CE>  So far I have 1 lonely audio CD (it works great - with DOS 6),
 CE>  would *you* mind being specific about your CD's and offer any
 CE>  recommendations? (p.s. any to sell?) Thnx.
I was requesting that the original author specify CD's that did not work on
the Drive. I do have 1 CD available for sale - Total Baseball, I ended up
with 2 copies- this isn't even opened, stats to the end of 1991. I'd sell it
for $25. 
I wouldn't want to recommend CD's to anyone, people's tastes vary alot. I run
a BBS and I have about 6 disks on shareware, I got 10 CD's when I bought my
original Drive, and they include Publish It 2.0, Wing Commander/Ultima, Loom
(I really liked this game, I'd recommend it), Great Cities of the World Vol
2. Family Doctor - to name a few.
Ed
P.S I ended up buying a CD player for Audios after my wife heard me playing
on the computer.

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 34
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 05/28/93  7:55p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Since you're a dealer of Mitsumis and had a chance to test out certain
> disks, would you list the titles that have problems with the Mitsumi so
> us purchasers can keep away from them. Much Thank.
Joe, we sold the mentioned drive in thousands. I have not seen a single disk
with a problem, unless the disk was pressed incorrectly. TTYL 

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From: DAVE HITT                              Number: 35
  To: DON NELSON                               Date: 05/29/93  1:24p
Subj: Some Disk Recommendations               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Don, you might want to check out the Monster Disk.  A two disk compaiation of
just about everything - games, utitlties, fonts, gifs (no adult ones,
though), windows stuff...All packed with a spiral bound book that contains a
complete listing of what's on the two disks.  My only complaint is that too
much of disk one is devoted to software and utitlties for various BBSs.  I
picked mine up at a local compter fair for about $55.

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From: DAVE HITT                              Number: 36
  To: IAN LEVSTEIN                             Date: 05/29/93  1:32p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm intrested in any and all CD catalougs anyone has available.  I'll be
opening a new BBS in a couple of weeks, and while I only have one CD player
right now, I'm hoping to add a six disk changer in the near future.  I'm
intrested in just about anything, including adult stuff.  Send you cataloge
to:

Dave Hitt
Electric Avenue
P.O. Box 607
Round Lake, NY, 12151

Thanks in advance.

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From: JIM DELESKIE                           Number: 37
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 05/29/93 12:48p
Subj: NEW CATALOG IS DONE!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'd like to request a catalog

Jim DeLeskie
85 Westgrove Place - 21
Halifax,N.S
B3M 3L7

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From: GARY MEYER                             Number: 38
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 05/29/93 12:15a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Disks                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the Info on Adult CD-ROMS.....Looking for something like BUSTY
BABES which I have now....Basic the same type but with different selections
of GIF's I use them on my BBS....ProBoard.....and will have to have them so
that
they are FILES.BBS...in each of the CD-ROM Dir.....I Run an adult BBS with
some 6,000 GIF's + and have some 17,000 on-line files.....will give you a
call thanks......much! 

=== Zyllex Quoter v2.1 [Unregistered version] ===
Rainy days and automatic weapons always get me down.

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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 39
  To: JIM MCLEA                                Date: 05/30/93 12:32p
Subj: Used Shareware CD's???                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Jim,
 I don't sell used CD's but you will find many new titles at used
prices. I will get you a price list in the mail but if you downloaded
CDWORLD.zip you have the latest price list already...

 Have a good one
 Dave


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 40
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 05/29/93  2:30a
Subj: CATALOG                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


IA> We also have a generic account on our BBS
 IA>
 IA> First name: CD
 IA> Last Name: ROM
 IA> Password: CATALOG
  
 Hey that is a great idea.  So good in fact I want to steal it!
 
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 41
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 05/29/93  2:52a
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 I am getting a few more used internal Hitachi 3500's.  I will  be
  offering them for $130 each. Controller cards are $60  that  will
  run up to 4 of these drives.  4 of these drives are available for
  $600 with controller card, case and cables  to  connect  to  your
  internal power supply and the internal  part  of  the  controller
  card  ** shipping and c.o.d. charges via U.S. mail  are  included
  with this deal **.      I also have power supplies  and  external
  cables available.  Call 205-824-2552
 
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From: RICHARD VONZEL                         Number: 42
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 05/29/93  5:37p
Subj: cd-rom drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Are you selling drives also?? I'm looking for a Internal Mitsumi.

Richard.
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 43
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/93  6:42p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

June Special:  Reduced prices on these CD-ROMs!

Shareware Studio Volume I        $20.00 U.S. $25.00 Cdn
SoundWAV Volume I                $20.00 U.S. $25.00 Cdn
Simtel 20 MSDOS Utils (1/93)     $12.00 U.S. $15.00 Cdn

All applicable taxes included. Please add $4 U.S. $5 Cdn S/H
VISA/Mastercard/Cheque/M.O. Accepted.
Contact:  Michellea Sorensen  at  306-789-4654
          6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk. (Canada), S4N 4G7
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 44
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/93  6:42p
Subj: SHAREWARE STUDIO VOL 1                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Shareware Studio Volume I        $20.00 U.S. $25.00 Cdn

   Great variety of games and utilities for DOS, Windows,
   programmers, more!  FILES.BBS support for almost *ALL*
   BBS types.  Virus/Hack-free files in .ZIP format.

All applicable taxes included. Please add $4 U.S. $5 Cdn S/H
VISA/Mastercard/Cheque/M.O. Accepted.
Contact:  Michellea Sorensen  at  306-789-4654
          6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk. (Canada), S4N 4G7
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 45
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/93  6:43p
Subj: SHAREWARE STUDIO VOL. 2                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Shareware Studio Volume II       $28.00 U.S. $35.00 Cdn
              ** Just pressed this month! **
   Great variety of games and utilities for DOS, Windows,
   programmers, more!  FILES.BBS support for almost *ALL*
   BBS types.  Virus/Hack-free files in .ZIP format.

All applicable taxes included. Please add $4 U.S. $5 Cdn S/H
VISA/Mastercard/Cheque/M.O. Accepted.
Contact:  Michellea Sorensen  at  306-789-4654
          6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk. (Canada), S4N 4G7
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 46
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/93  6:43p
Subj: MULTIMEDIA/SOUND CD-ROMS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SoundWAV Volume I                $20.00 U.S. $25.00 Cdn
                ** Just pressed in April! **
   640 megs of ORIGINAL digital samples in 3 WAV formats!
   Great for multi-media applications, musicians, and home
   entertainment!

All applicable taxes included. Please add $4 U.S. $5 Cdn S/H
VISA/Mastercard/Cheque/M.O. Accepted.
Contact:  Michellea Sorensen  at  306-789-4654
          6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk. (Canada), S4N 4G7
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From: DENNY VANDEMAELE                       Number: 47
  To: CLINT SAVAGE                             Date: 05/21/93  6:18a
Subj: MSCDEX PROBLEM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Then I upgraded to a AMI (motherboard) 486DX2-66 Just normal DOS v6
> using MSCDEX v2.20 (in dos v6 package) and get "Incorrect DOS version).

Hello, My dos v6 came with v2.23 and it works fine without setver.

Den

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From: DENNY VANDEMAELE                       Number: 48
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 05/24/93  5:53p
Subj: Re: CDROM DISTRIBUTORS WA               Refer: NONE
Read: 06/02/93  7:52a                       Private: No 

Hello Tim,
    What CD's have you put out?  Which one are you working on now?
Thanks
Den

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From: DENNY VANDEMAELE                       Number: 49
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/24/93  5:55p
Subj: CD Speedway                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Is anybody selling CD Speedway disk caching software?

Does it work?  Have you tried it??
Thanks
Den

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From: DENNY VANDEMAELE                       Number: 50
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/25/93  6:14p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Jim,
I'm interested in all Non-Adult Cd-Roms.

Denny VandeMaele
3731 Greenleaf Circle #112
Kalamazoo,  MI  49008

Thanks
Den

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 51
  To: GARY ARCHER                              Date: 05/29/93  5:21a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Fesses Up to Pro            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 26 May 93  19:45:00, I heard Gary Archer shout to All:

GA> Warning to all of you who just bought a Mitsumi LU005S hoping to use it
und
GA> OS/2 or
GA> with a Multi-session Photo CD.  This also covers the problem that some
peop
GA> have in
GA> reading a very full CD-ROM.  This was taken from the Usenet conference
GA> comp.os.os2.misc
GA> where effort is ongoing trying to figure out why LU005s mfgd after Feb 93
a
GA> failing:

Gary,

  Well this is interesting, Could you give me the number that you called for 
Mitsumi ??  The number that is in my manual, Is NOT there number...
                        Thanks !

                             ......|<evin

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From: JOSEPH THOMAS                          Number: 52
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 05/30/93  9:09a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Fesses Up to Pro            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I just got these numbers,
  being weekend-holidays, I have not tried it yet.

       408-970-0700
       708-593-7600
      213-727-5096
       516-752-7730
       214-550-7300,  Use the number convenient for you.


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From: KELLY LESSARD                          Number: 53
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/28/93 11:54p
Subj: RE: FREE CD-ROM CATALOGS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Jim...

Interested in recieving one of those CD-ROM catalogs...

My Address is:

Kelly Lessard
45 Crawford Street
Red Deer, Alberta, CANADA
T4P 2G4

Many thanks...

Kelly


KELLY LESSARD

... Silver Xpress!...... Now 100% QWK Compatible! More bang for your bucks!
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From: KENT DYER                              Number: 54
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/29/93 11:12p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi there!

I'd like to be on your mailing list for the catalog.

Kent Dyer
POB 8602
Corpus Christi, Tx  78469-8602

Please include ALL types of titles, including adult.
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From: REN JUST                               Number: 55
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/28/93  6:38a
Subj: LINUX CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
LINUX AND INTERNET FILES ON CD-ROM
  
LINUX, a UNIX operating system workalike now available
on CD-ROM.  Includes GNU C/C++ compiler, X-Windows,
TCP/IP, sound card support and much more.  Only $49.95.
 
Also CD-ROMs available with source code and applications
from internet servers for DOS, UNIX, Amiga, C and Mac.
Call or write for listing.
 
To receive your LINUX CD-ROM call and order with your
charge card
 
or send $49.95 + $3.00 S/H (CA residents add 7.25% tax) to:
 
Just Computers!
PO Box 751414
Petaluma  CA 94975-1414
  
707-769-1648
 
Visa and MasterCard gladly accepted.
 

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From: BILL ROPER                             Number: 56
  To: DAVID BAKKER                             Date: 05/29/93  7:47p
Subj: Re: Hitachi 1503S for SAL               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> If you still have that drive and it'll work with my GVp imapct series
-> controlles let me know. Also do you have the driver


I have absolutely no idea if it will or not....   and yes, I do
have the driver.

Bill..


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From: CRAIG MOSER                            Number: 57
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/93  5:01p
Subj: Mac CD-ROMS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MACINTOSH CD-ROM
----------------
Aesopolis(tm)
Kids love Uncle Bits, your host and guide through Aesopolis, the
magic land of Aesop's Fables. This enchanting multi-media CD-ROM
presents the timeless wisdom of the ages with splendid color
imagery and high-fidelity sound.Uncle Bits provides an introduction
to each story and engages the user in a thought-provoking
interactive dialog designed to reinforce the Aesopic message.
Children love his crazy antics as well as the colorful costumes &
disguises he dreas upon from his prop chest. Aesopolis represents
the cutting edge in interactive edutainment. Aesopolis is tons of
fun. Designed for students ages 3 to 83. Rated 4 1/2 mice, MacUser
magazine, December 1992. Requires color Macintosh with 2.5 megs
available RAM, CD-ROM drive.  List Price: $99.

SPECIAL PRICE:  $75


Giga-ROM(tm) v4.0
This is the world's LARGEST Macintosh software collection - this
disc contains an amazing 1700 megabytes of compressed, archived
Macintosh shareware and public domain software goodies! The Giga-ROM
is the ideal solution for a Super-Mac BBS, or for users who need
the most extensive library of Macintosh programs in pre-compressed
format. The Giga-ROM is updated regularly to include the latest & 
greatest new software. Version 4.0 offers a cleaner, more intuitive
structure and is jam pakced with the greatest applications, cdevs,
extensions, utilities, snds, MIDI, communications, DAs, demos, fonts,
educational, Hypercard, QuickTime MooVs and MUCH MORE!
New on Version 4.0 is a directory of essential BBS software &
utilities for such popular Mac BBS host programs as: Second Sight,
TeleFinder, FirstClass, NovaLink Pro, Hermes, MUBBS...plus the
greatest Tabby/Fidonet essentials. Most files on the disc have the
popular "SitC" comment resource added to their archives.
Truly an amazing CD-ROM!  List Price: $199

SPECIAL PRICE:  $119

If you are interested in purchasing either of these great CD-ROMS,
Contact South Beach BBS (305) 572-4287 and leave me a message with
your name and voice telephone number. A representative will contact
you. Credit card orders accepted.All CD-ROMS are guaranteed against
manufacturing defects for 1 year.

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From: TOM CASHMORE                           Number: 58
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/29/93  5:50a
Subj: Mailing List ....                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Please include me in your mailing list. Also interested in Adult titles 
(Who isnt<g>..). Send to : 
  
 Tom Cashmore 
 PO Box 2873 
 Springfield Mo 65802-2873 
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: JASON SAUVE                            Number: 59
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/93  8:54p
Subj: European Racer (CD-ROM)                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anybody have any comments on the game European Racer (which I just
believe came out a short while ago for CD-ROM only by Revell)?!? Because I'm
thinking of buying it but would like a few opinions as to whether it is a
good multi-media game like the 7th Guest is! Thanks, all information
appreciated.

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From: ANDREW MCGREGOR                        Number: 60
  To: GEORGE INACIO                            Date: 05/26/93  9:54p
Subj: COMMENT (1)                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hi there
i would just like to know how to download bulletin messages???
your faithfully
A.McGregor
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From: MALCOLM KLEU                           Number: 61
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 05/26/93  5:50a
Subj: CATALOGUE                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Mike,
 
Do you stock Mitsumi drives, and if so, at what price (plus shipping)?
Also, I would like to receive a copy of your latest catalogue
My address follows:-
P.O.Box 35611,
Northcliff - 2115
Rep. of S. Africa
 
Regards, Malcolm

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From: RICHARD KRUGER                         Number: 62
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 05/27/93  8:03a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Mike,
Please include me in your mailing list for the CD catalog...
Rand Datasystems Technology CC
P.O Box 6468
Greenhills
South-Africa
1767
Hope to hear from you soon..
Keep well
Richard

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From: RICHARD KRUGER                         Number: 63
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/27/93  8:47a
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Jim,
 > I am now sending out our new CD-Rom catalog from Computer
 > Works.  Anyone
 > wishing to be added to our mailing list, please leave me a
 > message with
 > your address.  Specify if you are interested in adult
 > titles.  Thanks!
Well yes please, add me to your mailing list. Send me info on all CD's
available. Adult included.
Thanks and keep well
Richard

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 64
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 05/29/93 10:39p
Subj: CD-ROM drives for $90                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 IA> Mitsumi LU002S / Tandy 1000  CD-ROM Player $90

If I am in time, send one my way.  Please ship COD to the following address.

Michael Benge
4540 washington rd
college park ga 30349

Voice verification at 1-404-763-0000
BBS, Evening Netmail  1-404-559-8283

I will try to contact you voice also, but please pack one up for me, and ship
it as soon as you receive this message.  Thanx

 * MKRead v1.01 * Jesus saves sinners... and redeems them for cash & Prizes


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From: BEN NATION                             Number: 65
  To: GARY ARCHER                              Date: 05/30/93 11:18a
Subj: mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey Gary, I read the note you sent across the line about the LU004 drive.
Well I would like to know if you could supply me with the name and number at
MItsumi, of who you spoke with. As I have three drives, 2 of which are the B
series, but the last is a C series (C5511666) manufactered in APRIL 93. Since
Its not a D series but manufactured after MARCH 93, I don't know if its one
of the 004 drives or not. I want to talk to someone before I call the seller
and find out if mine is or is not a 004 drive.
                                        Thanks in Advance, Ben.

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From: MARTY PURSELLEY                        Number: 66
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 05/30/93 10:42a
Subj: Dv & qemm                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you are still interested in the trade for your copy of Mammals (MPC
version), my copy of Desqview is current and QEMM is version 6.0. I have the
documents for QEMM and it is unregistered; the desqview has been registered.
Let me know - l8er


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From: JIM REED                               Number: 67
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/93  8:59a
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi All;
     I just discovered a really great feature of this drive.  I'm going
     to have to read the manual more often.  I just stick  my
     favorite audio disk in the drive and run CDPLAY which came on the
     installation disk and I've got music.  I even put it in my startup
     file.  I can then go about any other task on the machine with music
     in the background.  I have not noticed any conflict with other
     programs yet, it must not even be using the CPU because I can't
     find any memory allocated to it while it's playing.  Was wondering
     if anyone else is doing this and if you've discovered any problems
     in doing this.  BTW it does require unplugging the speakers from
     the Soundblaster and plugging into the drive, but if this is really
     problem free I may buy a second set of speakers.
                                /JIM/
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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 68
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/30/93  2:44p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jim,
Please add my to your list.
Thanks!

Michael Sells
309 East Saint Mary Drive
Covington, LA 70433


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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 69
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 05/30/93  6:23a
Subj: Cdrom retailer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like a catalog!
Jeff Jenkins
1435 N. Tamarisk
Chandler, Az. 85224
thanks..


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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 70
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/30/93  6:33a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How much is Digital Dreams?
also,  can you send me another catalog, or at least the adult titles.
I did not get the adult titles when you sent the last catalog.
thanks
Jeff Jenkins
1435 N. Tamarisk
Chandler, Az. 85224


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From: MIKE MAST                              Number: 71
  To: ALFRED FRANKLIN                          Date: 05/30/93  3:05a
Subj: Need A Cd Scsi Controller               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Hey I really need a SCSI Card for my CD-ROM...Let me know if
 > you still have the Controller..I would like to buy one or
 > two!

Yes, I still have some.  If you're just going to run the CD's off of them,
the T100 is the way to go (cheaper).  If you'd envision running other SCSI
devices on the card (these are 8 bit), then a T128 might be the way to go. 
Personally, I run my HDrives on a 16 bit controller and the CDs on the 8 bit
controllers.  I have 2 T100 controllers left.  I'm asking $25 a piece or $45
for both of them. Each includes the disk and docs that came with my CDrom
drive purchase.  These are "left over" because I'm daisy chaining the CDs
off of one controller and each CD drive came with a  controller (that I
don't need).
 
Regards,
Mike
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 72
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 05/30/93  9:42a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TW> Smutware                                                          
 TW> My private collection,volume 2                                    
 TW> Adult reference library                                           
                                                                       
  
I have Storm I & II, Private Pictures, and Erotic Encounters to trade. 
If you're interested in any of these, call me at 713-488-0065. Ciao! 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 73
  To: ROGER COLLINS                            Date: 05/30/93  9:45a
Subj: Adult ROMs Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DA> Seeing as how a used CD is indistinguishable from a new CD (assu  
                                                                       
  
I agree with Doug Adams - undamaged "used" CDs are as perfect as new 
ones. I have Storm I & II, Private Pictures, and Erotic Encounters for 
sale (also trade) at $20 each plus $5/ORDER for shipping. Call me at 
713-488-0065 if you're interested. All items subject to prior sale - I'm 
not a dealer - these are "one each". 
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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 74
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 05/29/93 10:38p
Subj: ASIAN LADIES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Terry!

Saturday May 29 1993, Terry Woodward writes to Jere Wessell:

 JW>> ASIAN LADIES IS PRODUCED BY SEXY CD SOFTWARE, INC
 JW>> MIAMI, FL CAN ANYONE GIVE ME A FULL ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER.
 JW>> I NEED TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT USING MY COPYRIGHTED GIFS ON THEIR CD ROM.
 JW>> JERE WESSELL
 JW>> NIGHTHAWK BBS (702) 644-1537
 JW>> LAS VEGAS, NV

 TW> If you find out, will you let me know? I'd like to talk to them myself.

 TW> Terry Woodward
 TW> The Library BBS
 TW> 305-581-4983

Call Ismail Arslangiray of GroupWare... he's in pretty tight with the
publisher of Asian Ladies.  He knows EXACTLY who they are and where they're
at.  Ismail's number is (800) 373-0628 or (206) 472-1400.

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 75
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/28/93 10:09p
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 ****      CD-ROM International * (800) 678-2374 (Order Line)          ****
 ****                   (509) 754-0724 (Voice)                         ****
 ****                   (509) 754-0109 (BBS/Fax)                       ****
 **************************************************************************


 Bibles & Religion ........... 12.00  Source CD-ROM ............... 17.00
 CD PowerBox ................. 22.00  Super Games for Windows .....  5.00
 Guinness Disc of Records .... 30.00  Too Many Typefonts .......... 12.00
 Night Owl's 7.0 ............. 19.00  USA Wars: American Civil War  29.00
 Night Owl's 8.0 ............. 29.00  USA Wars: Desert Storm ...... 29.00
 Publish-It! v2.0 ............ 29.00  USA Wars: Korea ............. 29.00
 Q&A v4.0 on CD-ROM .......... 59.00  USA Wars: Vietnam ........... 29.00
 Reference Library ........... 24.00  USA Wars: World War II ...... 29.00
 Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det ... 39.00  Super_CD II ................. 19.00
 Programmer's Mega Pack ...... 34.00

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From: JERRY FREEMAN                          Number: 76
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 05/29/93  4:36a
Subj: Re: adult CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO#Dean, we carry on of the largest selection of adult titles around.

BO#Boris Osadciw

BO#... Mail Media. Do not expose to Flames!
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  # * TNet 3.50 = This Old house * 206-475-2108 (Tacoma)

Can I get a catalog from you?  Thanks

Jerry Freeman
3003 Elizabeth St.
Bellingham, Wa  98225

 * QMPro 1.02 67-5676 * Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up.
 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: JERRY FREEMAN                          Number: 77
  To: THE SISTER                               Date: 05/29/93  4:40a
Subj: Re: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TS# -=> Quoting Jim Lambert to All <=-

TS# JL> I am now sending out our new CD-Rom catalog from Computer Works.
  # JL> Anyone  wishing to be added to our mailing list, please leave me a
  # JL> message with  your address.  Specify if you are interested in adult
  # JL> titles.  Thanks!
  # JL> Jim...
  # JL> Computer Works
  # JL> CD-Rom Sales!
  # JL> (205) 793-4481 Voice
  # JL> (205) 671-0092 BBS
  # JL>

Catalog, please. Adult titles too.
Jerry Freeman
3003 Elizabeth St.
Bellingham, WA 98225

 * QMPro 1.02 67-5676 * Nothing worse than being peerless in a peer review
syst
 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: MIKE SMITH                             Number: 78
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/30/93  5:10p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Jim could you include me on the list, adult and all
 Mike Smith
Box19a Warners Lake Rd.
East Berne Ny  12059

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From: GREGORY WYNOT                          Number: 79
  To: RUSS MICHAELSON                          Date: 05/28/93 10:36p
Subj: CD'S 4-SALE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > GW>               The Phoenix 3.0
 > GW>               So Much Shareware 2
 >         Greg - I'll offer $10 each plus shipping for the
 > above.
 >                 Let me know.

I don't have Night Owl 6.1 anymore.  I would do $25 for those other two
however, and if you wanted Night Owl 7.0 I would sell all of them for $35.
Let me know!


               Greg

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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 80
  To: BRANDON QUINN                            Date: 05/31/93  9:42a
Subj: Texel DM-3024                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to Boris Osadciw, Brandon Quinn said:
 BQ> I'm within a week or two on deciding what drive to buy and
 BQ> where.  I
 BQ> have the PAS-16 sound card and was wondering if your bare
 BQ> Texel DM-3024
 BQ> drive includes, not only the drive, mounting rails, SCSI
 BQ> (50 pin) cable
 BQ> and caddy, but also the 5 pin audio cable?

 BQ> If not, how much is the audio cable?

 BQ> Is the Texel DM-3024 the best multi-spin, SCSI drive for
 BQ> the money on
 BQ> the market right now?

 BQ>  * SLMR 2.0 * The secret to life lies at 19.5 degrees


 BQ> --- WM v2.08/91-0097
 BQ>  * Origin: Texas Open Forum!  903-534-1918 100,000+ Files
 BQ> (1:3801/100)
 BQ> 6000 
.
.
 My friend is selling his NEC 84-1 for $460.He has only had it for a few
months.These drives are $599 most places.If interested call Binary Works at
615-890-3862.
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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 81
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93 10:00a
Subj: Sony CD-ROM drive                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I'm selling a Sony CD-ROM with 380ms and 150k/sec transfer.This includes all
needed cables.I'll throw in LOOM too.I want $185(this includes Loom).
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From: ROGER COLLINS                          Number: 82
  To: DOUG ADAMS                               Date: 05/30/93  5:07p
Subj: Adult ROMs Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Seeing as how a used CD is indistinguishable from a new CD (assuming
-> unscratched, as mine are), I don't agree.  But, it is your choice.  I
-> keep you in mind.

Try telling that to the audio shops that sell used CDs...sure makes
collecting a little cheaper!

-> BTW, you offered $20 post-paid, not $20 plus shipping.

I know, I upped by offer by the shipping.


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From: JOHN DECARLO                           Number: 83
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 05/30/93  6:47p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On <May 29 08:47>, Terry Woodward (1:369/14) wrote:

 TW >I have the following Cd's for trade.
 TW >Smutware
 TW >My private collection,volume 2
 TW >Adult reference library
 TW >PC-Pix, volume 2

I have FAO I and am tired of it.  Interested in trading?

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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 84
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/29/93  7:11a
Subj: NEW CATALOG WANTED                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Clint Savage
2124 Gerber AVe.
Sacramento Ca
95817

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From: SCOTT ATKINS                           Number: 85
  To: BEN NATION                               Date: 05/29/93  9:51a
Subj: Re: mitsumi                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Ben Nation to All <=-

 BN> Would anyone be kind enough to leave me a response on what sound
 BN> cards does mitsumi 350ms cd roms support? i.e.- soundblaster, etc...
 BN> thanks, Ben. 

Ben:

The 350 Mitsumi drives can be run off the Aztec Sound Galaxy NX-Pro, or the 
ATI Stereo F/X Cd sound card.  I have either one.  The Aztec is $150 and the
ATI is $160.

Scott
(916) 775-1946 (PST weekends/evenings)
... ARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! ... Tension breaker, had to be done.
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From: ADAM MORANO                            Number: 86
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/30/93  5:47p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Hello Jim, Could I get one of your catalogs?

Adam Morano
20992 Strickler Road
West Fork,Ark
72774
Thanks....
Adam

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From: ADAM MORANO                            Number: 87
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 05/30/93  5:51p
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO> Here it is !!!  A complete BBS Ready " ALL GAMES DISK"
Boris, Do you have a files list for this? If so could you Netmail it
to me? Thanks....
Adam Morano
1:391/1180

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From: THE SISTER                             Number: 88
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/30/93  9:01p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Catalogs!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Jim Lambert to The Sister <=-

 JL> I'll get you a price list out in the mail.  Maybe I can supply what
 JL> you  are looking for.  Thanks for asking! 
 JL> 
 JL> Jim... 
 JL> Computer Works 
 JL> CD-Rom Sales! 
 JL> (205) 793-4481 Voice 
 JL> (205) 671-0092 BBS 
jim-
        Thanks I would apperciate that!
                        Joannine Gesualdo

... It ain't over until it's over.  Then, who knows!
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 89
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/30/93  7:46a
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>Computer Works
JL>CD-Rom Sales!
JL>(205) 793-4481 Voice
JL>(205) 671-0092 BBS

Jim,     Please send me a CD-ROM catalog if available...
    Thanks,     Shane
                          Shane Snyder
                          286 Main St. Apt.3
                          Greenville PA  16125
     ps.  I am interested in all titles.

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From: BRAD MARSH                             Number: 90
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/93  8:50a
Subj: SONY CDU535 CD241-AO Ser                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for new drivers of the sony CDroms

I heard that they will allow single session Photo CD Compatibility

Any info would be great

... QuickSilver has no File Ratios
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 91
  To: JOHN HUGHES                              Date: 05/30/93 12:45p
Subj: OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JH> I'm looking for the Oxford English Dictionary. Does anyone know who
 JH> has the best price? The suggested retail price for the two-disk set is
 JH> $895.

Haven't checked on a current price lately, but if the previous price I have
it still good, I can sell it to you for $869 plus shipping and handling. 
Give me a call at 615-339-0235 any evening after 5 pm if interested.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 92
  To: STEPHEN RUSBOLDT                         Date: 05/30/93 12:51p
Subj: RE: PIONEER SPECIAL                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SR> What type of connector is on the Pioneer Drives?  
 SR> There are a couple different type SCSI connectors.  
 SR> Is it a 25 pin "D" type?  Or is it similar to the 
 SR> Centronics connector?

They have the 50 pin SCSI slot that looks like the Centronics connector on
your parallel printer.  The Future Domain TMC850 cards have a 25 pin
connector.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 93
  To: MARIO BONELLI                            Date: 05/30/93 12:56p
Subj: Florida Lion's Den Inc. CD Complaint!   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MB> Complaint:

 MB> It is taking too long for you guys to come up with another CD! :^)
 MB> What are your availble titles, and are there anymore in the making? 
 MB> I own Ecstasy Hot Pics, and Busty Babes!

Definitely not an INFORMED complaint!! <g>  They just released a new CD that
is supposed to be a real nice Clip Art CD called PCX Potpourri.  I am sure
they will be publishing some more soon.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 94
  To: SCOTT ELMORE                             Date: 05/30/93  1:00p
Subj: Hey                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SE>             I want a price on the MULTIMEDIA WORLD 
 SE> ATLAS.. I Believe Toolworks or something makes it? 
 SE> HOW MUCH?

How about $28.95 plus $4 shipping (in stock).....give me a call at
615-339-0235 after 5:30 eastern and will get ya fixed up.  

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From: LAYN HUFFMAN                           Number: 95
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/29/93  9:33p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Jim!

 JL> I am now sending out our new CD-Rom catalog from Computer Works.  Anyone
 JL> wishing to be added to our mailing list, please leave me a message with
 JL> your address.  Specify if you are interested in adult titles.  Thanks!

Please include me in your CD-ROM catalog listing with adult titles.  My
address is as follows:

Layn Huffman
2468 Pate Road
Memphis, TN 38133

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From: IAN LEVSTEIN                           Number: 96
  To: DAVE HITT                                Date: 05/30/93  4:53p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DH> I'm intrested in any and all CD catalougs anyone has 
 DH> available.  I'll be opening a new BBS in a couple of 
 DH> weeks, and while I only have one CD player right now, 
 DH> I'm hoping to add a six disk changer in the near 
 DH> future.  I'm intrested in just about anything, 
 DH> including adult stuff.  Send you cataloge to:

You have the wrong person Dave.  I myself was asking for a catalogue.  Better
check the echo, I think you want to reply to Jim Lambert.


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 97
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/30/93  4:30p
Subj: Free cd-rom catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Are you selling Share Ware Studio 2?
If so, how much?
thanks!


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 98
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 05/30/93  4:44p
Subj: Cdrom retailer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Could you send me a catalog?
If so, send it to the following address:
        Paul Janel
        280 curtis road
        Hilton NY 14468
Thanks!


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 99
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 05/30/93  9:34p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you have a catalog you could send me? If so, please send it to:
        Paul Janel
        280 Curtis RD
        Hilton NY 14468
Thanks!


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 100
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 05/30/93  9:37p
Subj: Shareware studio vol. 2                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

There is a guy selling that same CD for ONLY $22.95... can you beat that?


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 101
  To: DENNY VANDEMAELE                         Date: 05/30/93  9:40p
Subj: Cd speedway                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have read in some CD echo that there is a BETTER cd-caching software and
its put out by Norton. If you didn't know, thats all that CD-SpeedWay is, a
chaching software. I hoped that helped you some.


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From: BILL WOLF                              Number: 102
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/31/93 12:57a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

YES JIM, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ADDED TO YOUR MAILING LIST TO RECEIVE THE CATALOG
AND ALSO THE ADULT LISTINGS YOU HAVE.         THANKS, BILL WOLF

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From: BILL WOLF                              Number: 103
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/31/93  1:11a
Subj: CD CATALOG                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JIM, SEND THE CATALOG I REQUESTED TO THE ADDRESS BELOW.  AGAIN, THANKS

BILL WOLF
12916 JAMI DR.
KANSAS CITY, MO
64166

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From: BRIAN PUNTNEY                          Number: 104
  To: GREGORY YERXA                            Date: 05/30/93  5:16p
Subj: CDs                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Gregory-

    GY>         I am interested in any cheap ($10-$20) CDs.  I just

I have So Much Shareware 2 for $15.  It has a good collection of stuff for
everyone.  Has FILES.BBS in every directory, for easy setup on a BBS.  It is
used, but in excellent condition.

Brian Puntney

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From: BILL HENDERSON                         Number: 105
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/93 10:03p
Subj: 7th Guest Trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a two week old copy of 7th Guest that I just can't get into...what do
you have to trade? Really like to find Bible Library and Bibles and Religion
CD-Roms, but will consider all. Leave me a note.
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From: SCOTT FISHER                           Number: 106
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/30/93  1:54p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     Jim,
      I'd appreciate being added to your mailing list, and I'd be
     interested in the adult titles as well. Thanks in advance,
      Scott Fisher
      7720 Penn Ave S. #119
      Richfield, Mn 55423


 * OLX 2.1 * Death: To stop sinning suddenly.


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 107
  To: BRIAN HURLEY                             Date: 05/30/93  8:46a
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BH>Please send me a catalog too. 
 
Sure thing, Brian.  Thanks for your interest! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Roms Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 108
  To: BRYAN LEKAS                              Date: 05/30/93  8:48a
Subj: cdrom price list                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BL>please send me a catalog at 
BL>include adult files/offers 
 
Sure thing, Bryan.  Thanks for your interest! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 109
  To: IAN LEVSTEIN                             Date: 05/30/93  8:51a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

IL>I'd appreciate a copy: 
 
Ok, Ian.  I'll get one out to you.  Thanks! 
 
IL>Adult titles are ok with me. 
 
Me too.  I just don't want to offend anybody. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 110
  To: BOB KERR                                 Date: 05/30/93  8:53a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BK>you can add me to your mailing please 
 
Consider yourself added, Bob.  Thanks for your interest. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 111
  To: WAYNE ASHWORTH                           Date: 05/30/93  8:55a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WA>Would appreciate being added to the mailing list, adult titles included. 
 
Sure thing, Wayne.  Thanks for your interest! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 112
  To: GARY MEYER                               Date: 05/30/93  9:50a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GM>Please send a catalog to: 
 
It's already on the way, Gary. Thanks for your interest! 
 
>also looking for good Adult CD-ROM Disks...Have Busty Babes...whta else
might 
>you have? 
 
I think the next biggest seller will be Digital Dreams.  It is all 
original scans that are 800x600 or better with no BBS ads.  It has a 
very nice user interface also. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 113
  To: MARK EARLIWINE                           Date: 05/30/93  9:57a
Subj: cd-catalog                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ME>Hi Jim, please add me to your mailing list for the cd catalog. 
 
Sure thing, Mark.  Thanks for your interest! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: DOUG BURDEN                            Number: 114
  To: JEAN-GUY PARE                            Date: 05/30/93  1:24p
Subj: FREE CD-ROM CATALOGS!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please include me in your catalog list!

DOug Burden
box 1163
Angus, Ontario
LOM 1BO

internet address doug.burden@Canrem.com

thanks
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From: DOUG BURDEN                            Number: 115
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 05/30/93  1:27p
Subj: FREE CD-ROM CATALOGS!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please include my in your catalog list.

Doug Burden
box 1163
Angus, Ontario
Canada L0M 1B0

please include adult lists as well.

Doug
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From: DOUG BURDEN                            Number: 116
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 05/30/93  1:31p
Subj: WALNUT CREEK NEW RELEASES               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

what is your price on the Simtel 20?
 Doug Burden
internet doug.burden@Canrem.com
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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 117
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93  3:09p
Subj: The Seventh Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested in everyone's comments on the Seventh Guest game. Please list
any price offers and I'll be sure to get back to you. Thanks!!


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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 118
  To: WALT LANE                                Date: 05/30/93  7:59p
Subj: FileShop Shareware CDROM $15!!          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Hmm...  How about $20 for one.

 > Walt Lane - Sysop: The File Shop BBS

How about 1 for $15 like the subject line says?

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From: VINCENT TESTA                          Number: 119
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93 12:34p
Subj: CDROM DISK                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi'ya All ...

I am looking for NIXPIX volume 1 if anyone has it for sale?


Ciao, Vincent

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From: DON NELSON                             Number: 120
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 05/30/93  4:18a
Subj: Cdrom drives                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* On 05-27-93 in a message to Paul Janel, Boris Osadciw said:
BO> The lowest price SCSI unit we have NEW would be a Internal
BO> Texel 3021,

What would the price for a 3024 or 5024 be?  (No cables/Controller) 
BO> which would be $195. for the bare unit or an NEC36M External

NEC CDR38-1
NEC CDR72

Thanks,

.dn 
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From: SCOTT ELMORE                           Number: 121
  To: GREGORY YERXA                            Date: 05/30/93  9:32a
Subj: Cds                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GY >        I am interested in any cheap ($10-$20) CDs.  I just

    I will sell you my unused Phoenix 3.0 CD for $20.00..
I also have Monkey Island for $30.00

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From: MARIO BONELLI                          Number: 122
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 05/30/93  2:01p
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den Inc. CD Complaint!  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On This Day And Age [28-May-9317:45:00] Lee Noga, (1:3618/23) Bellowed:

Greetings Lee,

 LN> You mean "Gal", yes ? Be patient, they are in the works :)

OH, well excuse me for that little mistake, I had no idea who Iwas dealing
with. :)

 LN> Secret.

Do tell? :) Ok, I'll wait! :)

 LN> You have impeccable taste !

Well thank you. Im just ready to push those buttons on the dialing pad, to
make my next order! :)

Mario Bonelli - CNET & AMIGA_CDROM FidoNet Echo Moderator - FREQ US!
***
This book has too much plot and not enough story.
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From: NANCY PORTER                           Number: 123
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 05/31/93 10:07a
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TB> I am getting a few more used internal Hitachi 3500's.  I will  be 
TB>  offering them for $130 each. Controller cards are $60  that  will      
TB>  run up to 4 of these drives.  4 of these drives are available for      
TB>  $600 with controller card, case and cables  to  connect  to  your      
 
Wait a moment.  130 
                x 4 
                --- 
                520 
                +60 
                --- 
                580 
 
And YOU are selling them for $600?  Such a deal! <Sigh!> 
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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 124
  To: CHRIS BARRETT                            Date: 05/29/93 11:21p
Subj: CD-ROMs WANTED!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Would a Pilips CM-100 for $150, including shipping in original box work for
you--includes card and cable.  Less than one year of use--spend most of its
life in storage as excess equipment.  Call me at 719-495-0495, if interested.


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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 125
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 05/29/93 11:30p
Subj: Cd's...                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Your list of CDs cannot be read.  I think the margin is set too large accross
the screen.


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From: PAUL SCHENCKE                          Number: 126
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/30/93  7:54p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jim, could you send me a catalog to:

Paul Schencke
11627 SW 90th St
Miami, FL, 33127

Thanks

-P

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From: LUKE MITCHELL                          Number: 127
  To: SYSOP (APPARENTLY FROM 2601/566)         Date: 05/31/93  7:02p
Subj: *ioneer                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi this is luke
how about some cash and a sb16 cd rom drive?


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From: BRANDON QUINN                          Number: 128
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/30/93 10:30a
Subj: catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

please send me a catalog:

Brandon Quinn
3416 Omega Drive
Tyler, Texas 75701

Thanks!

 * SLMR 2.0 * Damnit Jim, PAS 16 is a sound card, not a Vulcan sex act


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 129
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 05/31/93 10:18a
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Where did you get this drive, and how much did you pay? Thanks!


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From: SAM FERTITTA                           Number: 130
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93 11:20a
Subj: Looking for cd's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Now that I have finally gotten a CDRom, I am quite anxious to get some used
CD's. SOme for dad, some for the kids. The kids would like Sherlock Holmes 2,
or 3, Mammals, Karyndia(?), Dinosaurs, or any others that might come to mind.
For dad, well, any xxxx-rated cd's out there?

Thanks to all....Sam

p.s. Boris, somehow a driver that wouldnt work was loaded and after trial and
error was able to figure it out. Works perfectly now. You didnt send a
catalog however. Thanks..

... Take my advice, I don't use it anyway. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 131
  To: KEITH RITCHIE                            Date: 05/24/93  8:38p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Keith -

   > The drive itself is labeled LU005 but the box it came in
   > is labeled CRMC. Is this correct?? Is the LU005 and the
   > CRMC the same drive or did they try and pull a fast one

The box for both models says CRMC, but the new drives also have
a barcode strip with "MTSCMRC 005S" on it.

                                                  - Arnie :+}

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 132
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 05/31/93  1:06p
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den Inc. CD Complaint!  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Mario Bonelli <05-30-93 12:56> Doug Carpenter wrote:

DC>> Definitely not an INFORMED complaint!! <g>  They just released a new
DC>> CD that is supposed to be a real nice Clip Art CD called PCX
DC>> Potpourri.  I am sure they will be publishing some more soon.

Thanks Babe !! You bet we are and there is going to be a "Busty Babes Vol
II", 1000 scans, no penetration shots on this disc--Just locked into the deal
this weekend--All material is copyrighted by photographer and he is allowing
it to go on the BBS. We expect to bring this disc to market in 45 days (ready
to ship). Gorgeous woman, and top notch professional scanning.

We are also going through the PowerPak Shareware '93 disk to weed out any
potential copyright programs--So that should be ready to go out by 1 July.

Vampire's Kiss has been held back due to the fact that we are not happy with
the quality of the current movie disc's in the market--Lion's Den *REFUSES*
to put out movies unless we feel we can put them out to consumer
expectations--So far IBM technology is off the marker, but we did find a
company at COMDEX that want to prove us wrong, and want the to do the project
with us as a joint venture--SO we are sending them beta clips to see what
they are all about--

So we stepped back and re-organized, and are going to try to set a new trend,
and raise the standards of the industry, and spare the consumer's from some
of the ripoff disc scams--

You will notice more then ever, that unless the disc is licensed material,
the publisher won't last long, because the industry is going to see more and
more lawsuits against the adult publisher's--CD-ROM awareness is here and no
disc is safe now even if it is out of print--We know for a fact that there
were scouts up at COMDEX for the sole purpose of buying up disc's for
witchhunt purposes......some were after the shareware as well etc....

In a way this was bound to happen, and it should decrease the re-hashing
syndrome that is occuring now--

This is another reason why the US plants shutdown--They did not want to be
named as a party on any infringement suits etc--They saw this coming, and now
that we have been caught, we really did not know how dangerous it was
publishing adult/shareware CD's--The honeymoon is over, and the lawsuits are
rolling in. So by the end of the year you will only see the strong
publisher's survive----What publisher's don't realize is they have no
corporate protection with infringement suits, and they are personally liable
and stand to lose everything.

Some say that they will not disclose info on the disc that can track them
personally, and what they don't realize, is the distrib is then liable and
will be caught holding the bag--So distribution should be selective in the
disc's they carry, because they are as liable as the publisher--So, if you
don't have any identification of the publisher on the product, contact
address etc, you may want to reconsider carrying the disc--There are people
trying to get legislation passed that forces publisher's to reveal their
identity-- Just food for thought this year, this is the year of lawsuits
which is the infantile step towards CD regulation.

Thanks for the KUDO !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: PAUL O'SULLIVAN                        Number: 133
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 05/28/93 12:21p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMS FROM WITHIN I               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BJ> Since a standard audio CD can only hold about 60-65 minutes of music,

Actually 74 minutes.



... IBM - Making tomorrow's mistakes Today!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: ANDY YEE                               Number: 134
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 05/30/93  8:32p
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

do you sell adult cd-roms?


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 135
  To: DENNY VANDEMAELE                         Date: 05/31/93  6:27a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >I'm interested in all Non-Adult Cd-Roms. 
 
Ok, Denny.  I have one on the way to you.  Thanks for your interest! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 136
  To: RICHARD KRUGER                           Date: 05/31/93  6:30a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >Well yes please, add me to your mailing list. Send me info on all CD's
avail 
  >Adult included. 
 
I'd be glad to, Richard, but I need your address.  Please leave me 
another message or give me a call.  Thanks for your interest! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 137
  To: KENT DYER                                Date: 05/31/93  6:33a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KD>I'd like to be on your mailing list for the catalog. 
KD>Please include ALL types of titles, including adult. 
 
Sure thing, Kent.  It's on the way.  Thanks for your interest! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 138
  To: TOM CASHMORE                             Date: 05/31/93  6:36a
Subj: CD-Rom Mailing List ....                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TC>Please include me in your mailing list. Also interested in Adult titles 
(Wh 
  >isnt<g>..). Send to : 
 
Ok, Tom.  You're on it.  I'll get one right out to you.  Thanks for your 
interest! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 139
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 05/31/93  7:29a
Subj: CDROM Retailer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GH>If you would like a catalog of over 400 CDROM titles, including games, 
  >shareware discs, educational items, Art/Desktop publishers, Business, 
  >Military, Health, and Research/Literature. 
 
Please add me to your mailing list.  Do you have discounts for quantity 
sales? 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Rt 3  Box 794-B 
Ashford, AL 36312 
(205) 793-4481 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 140
  To: KELLY LESSARD                            Date: 05/31/93  7:35a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOGS                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KL>Interested in recieving one of those CD-ROM catalogs... 
 
Sure thing, Kelly.  I'll get you one right out.  Thanks for your 
interest! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 141
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93  7:43a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer 
Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address, and we'd be 
glad to get one right out to you.  Thanks! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 142
  To: CARL GRAHAM                              Date: 05/31/93  2:09p
Subj: prophone                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Carl!

In a message to Mark Abbacchi <05/29/93> Carl Graham wrote:

CG> Hi Mark...if you still have the prophone cd's I would like to get them.
CG> Call me collect or thru echo...904-733-4403

I have one three disk set... still on special for $20.00!
1-800-289-1ROM or 1-314-521-4862 INTERNATIONAL!

Mark
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 143
  To: DENNY VANDEMAELE                         Date: 06/02/93  8:00a
Subj: Re: CDROM DISTRIBUTORS WA               Refer: 3488
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Hello Tim,
->     What CD's have you put out?  Which one are you working on now?

We do the Shareware Studio & SoundWAV CDs... We're currently working on
Shareware Studio III and hope to have it available in late summer.

We've just gotten an exclusive to distribute a new & interactive adult
title.  This disc is 100% original - original girls, original film,
original music, original art, original concept, original everything...
Nothing currently available can touch it. The video portions of this
disc are 30 frames/second on a 320x200 pixel screen and are less than
150 kb/second.  The disc should be ready in about 2 weeks...

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 144
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/02/93  8:05a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: 3549
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Me too.  I just don't want to offend anybody.

Jim, don't respond to "send me a catalog" messages...

tim
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 145
  To: STEPHEN RUSBOLDT                         Date: 05/31/93 11:27p
Subj: Re: PIONEER SPECIAL                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SR>>  I am running a 16 bit Future Domain controller with SCSI-2
 SR>>  connectors (mini 50 pin D type).  Do you have cables that
 SR>>  would interface to my controller?  If you do what do they
 SR>>  cost?
>>
 BO>> No problem here, the cable you require ( SCSI-2 to SCSI ) it is in
 BO>> stock and the cost is $59. plus S&H, which would all depend on if
 BO>> you want c.o.d or pre-pay your order.

>>    What type of connector is on the Pioneer Drives?  There are a
>>    couple different type SCSI connectors.  Is it a 25 pin "D"
>>    type?  Or is it similar to the Centronics connector?

It's a 50 D pin to Centronics shielded cable.....

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 146
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 05/31/93  3:45p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <29 May 93  08:47:00>, Terry Woodward (1:369/14) writes:
 >I have the following Cd's for trade.
 >Smutware
 >My private collection,volume 2
 >Adult reference library
 >PC-Pix, volume 2
I have Giffy Gold, I am interested in any of the above for a straight across
trade. But first tell me, what is the Adult reference library? I don't think
I want this one, but would like to know what it is.


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From: LOUIS BARTET                           Number: 147
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/31/93  1:25p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jim,
   Ditto on the catalog.  My address is:
 
                 Louis Bartet
                 Rt. 1, Box 102
                 Downsville, La. 71234
 
                                 THANKS!!
                                  lou
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From: LOUIS BARTET                           Number: 148
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 05/31/93  1:29p
Subj: CDROM Retailer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GH>Items added dialy/weekly via out support BBS (614-436-0180) and the
 GH>catalog is updated and put out monthly.
 GH>Must call each month (or leave message via here, or my BBS) to recieve a
 GH>catalog.
 GH>614-436-9223
 GH>FAX-436-8326
 GH>BBS-436-0180
 
 Gabe,
   Please send me a catalog.  My address is:
 
                                 Lou Bartet
                                 Rt. 1. Box 102
                                 Downsville, La. 71234
                                                 Thanks,
                                                   lou
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 149
  To: GARY MEYER                               Date: 06/01/93  3:07a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Disks                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Thanks for the Info on Adult CD-ROMS.....Looking for something
>>    like BUSTY  BABES which I have now....Basic the same type but
>>    with different selections of  GIF's I use them on my
>>    BBS....ProBoard.....and will have to have them so that they
>>    are FILES.BBS...in each of the CD-ROM Dir.....I Run an adult
>>    BBS with  some 6,000 GIF's + and have some 17,000 on-line
>>    files.....will give you a call  thanks......much!

I would suggest Ecstacy as your 2nd selection as it is made by the same
author and is jsut as good, if not better than Busty.

We also have this in stock, so give us a call and we'll be happy to
assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... I married the Mail Lady!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 150
  To: RICHARD VONZEL                           Date: 06/01/93  3:07a
Subj: Re: cd-rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Are you selling drives also?? I'm looking for a Internal
>>    Mitsumi.

Yes we do Richard, as well as other computer relaited products.

If your interested, please feel free to give us a call at 216-225-3263
anytime and we'll be happy to help you out.

Boris Osadciw

... Oh never mind!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 151
  To: RAND NOWELL                              Date: 06/01/93  3:07a
Subj: Re: Contact!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Hi Boris,

>>    Seems every time I call you, you're out! You hiding? :-)

>>    Please give =me= a call soon as you can, will be gone this
>>    weekend, but call me next week.  Try anytime, but after 6:00
>>    PST is the best of all.

>>    Rand!

>>    Damar Entr.

I should be here the rest of this week as it will be one of those
squeeze 7 days into 4.

You shouldn't have any problems getting a hold of me at all this week.

Boris Osadciw

... Mail Media. Do not expose to Flames!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 152
  To: JEAN-GUY PARE                            Date: 06/01/93  3:07a
Subj: Re: NEW GAMES DISK                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Allo Boris,

->> Already on it's way Jean !!!

>>         Thank, I try to sent you a net mail direct on your bbs,
>>         your modem answer but he dont accept my messsage, is the
>>     trouble is on my or your side? Thank for your CD list.

I don't think so Jean !! We jsut installed 2 more new modems ( ZyXel's )
and we had a few bugs to work out. I think everything is OK now, since
much of the system seems to be running just fine now.

Enjoy your new cd's !!

Boris Osadciw

... Real Programmers use "Copy Con Filename.exe"
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 153
  To: BRANDON QUINN                            Date: 06/01/93  3:07a
Subj: Re: Texel DM-3024                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I'm within a week or two on deciding what drive to buy and
>>    where.  I have the PAS-16 sound card and was wondering if your
>>    bare Texel DM-3024 drive includes, not only the drive,
>>    mounting rails, SCSI (50 pin) cable and caddy, but also the 5
>>    pin audio cable?

Nope, the audio cables do not come with the system.

>>    If not, how much is the audio cable?

If your going to hook the Texel to the Pro, then you'll need the sound
kit, which we have in stock and it's priced at $25. This gives you the
cable, manual, drivers for the Pas and another scsi cable as well.

>>    Is the Texel DM-3024 the best multi-spin, SCSI drive for the
>>    money on the market right now?

From all the experiance we've had with all the system we've sold. The Texel
is the best for your $$ so far. It offers very good service and
compatiablity as well as more bang for your bucks.

If you need further assistance, please feel free to call us anytime 7 days
a week at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to help you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 154
  To: DENNY VANDEMAELE                         Date: 06/01/93  3:07a
Subj: Re: CD Speedway                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Is anybody selling CD Speedway disk caching software?

>>    Does it work?  Have you tried it??
>>    Thanks

Den, there's a NEW one just out call "PC-KWIK". It'll cache your hard drive
as well as your cd, plus offers keyboard buffers, screen enhancers and more.

The street price is $39.00 and worth it as it is the lowest cost cache we've
seen.

You can call them direct at 503-644-5644 and ask for the order department.

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 155
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/93  3:07a
Subj: CD Systems Special                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $369.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $459.00
Sony Int 380ms Bare Dr  - $285.00 LIMITED Sony Ext 380ms Kit   - $395.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $379.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Receive $5. off drive for each CD purchased - Max 4 - No Specials/Bundles
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $14.00ec
Information on the above or 400 + CD titles call (216) 225-3263 anytime !


Boris Osadciw

... Oh never mind!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 156
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/93  3:07a
Subj: Special                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Monster Disk - $35.  Shareware Extravag - $45.   CD PowerBox      - $20.
Pier 1       - $29.  SoundWaV           - $25.   Shareware Online - $29.
Asian Ladies - $35.  Adult Ref Library  - $35.   All ChestNuts    - $14.
Hobbs OS/2   - $25.  Windows 1993       - $25.   Night Owl 8      - $29.
Groilers Ency DOS / Windows Version - $50.00ec   Night Owl 7      - $19.
Gameware     - $30.  Canadian Shareware - $15.   IBM Sampler      - $ 7.
  Mitsumi Int (350ms) - $195. Nec36M - Complete Ext SCSI System $269.
        Pioneer DM600 - Bare Drive - $799.     DM604X - $1199.
 ORDERS ONLY - 800-243-0517 For Tech or Product Info Call - 216-225-3263
      (((((((((((   Call Us - You'll Be Glad You Did   ))))))))))))))


Boris Osadciw

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 157
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 05/30/93  8:15a
Subj: Re: Adult cd's to swap                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 29 May 93  08:47:00, I heard Terry Woodward shout to All:

TW> I have the following Cd's for trade.
TW> Smutware
TW> My private collection,volume 2
TW> Adult reference library
TW> PC-Pix, volume 2

Terry,

  Well I have Volcano (ADULT) and VGA Spectrum for trade, If interested, Just

leave me a Note...

                                  ........|<evin

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From: B.A. CROWELL                           Number: 158
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/01/93  1:01a
Subj: NEW CATALOG IS DONE!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike,
    I'd like a catalog.

         B.A. Crowell
         3121 Dartmouth Dr.
         Plano, Tx.  75075

                          Thanx,
                                Bruce

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From: DONALD WOOD                            Number: 159
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 05/31/93  7:40p
Subj: Telemagic                               Refer: NONE
Read: 06/04/93  8:53a                       Private: No 

BUT CAN IT USE SCAN PICTURES FOR EACH SUBJECT????? I NEED A D. BASE THAT CAN
STORE A SCAN PICTURE SO I CAN KEEP RECORDS OF MY BIRDS I SELL
IN MY BUSNESS.....
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From: RYAN PARK                              Number: 160
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/93 12:23p
Subj: CATALOG                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I've seen messages to about five different people about "the
catalog" and would like to be placed on a subscription.  If
there is more than one "catalog", I'd like to be on ALL of the
catalogs EXCEPT nothing adult.

BEFORE 26 JUNE 1993             AFTER 26 JUNE 1993

Ryan Park                       Ryan Park Consulting
1311 Denniston Avenue           2158 Andrew Court
Bettendorf IA  52722            Bettendorf IA  52722

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From: RON GAGE                               Number: 161
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93  4:50p
Subj: Hitachi cdrom wanted                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* * * * * WANTED * * * * *

I am in need of a few Hitachi CDR-3600u CDROM drives.  I do not need the
drivers or the controller. I am looking for quantity 4 of these drives. NEW
OR USED.

What is your best price... shipping included ?

Ronald R. Gage
Sysop, Sound Power Systems
Voice - (517) 792-5890

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From: RON GAGE                               Number: 162
  To: STEVE LEU                                Date: 05/31/93  4:58p
Subj: Cd-roms wanted!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Steve:
-> Chris, I have 4 Hitachi drives that run off of one controller, so
-> they are single propriety.  They do, however, have caddies.  (it
-> really speeds up the drives!)  I am willing to sell them for along
-> with a 4-bay case for $650 + shipping.  Let me know.

If this Chris person didn't bite, then I will.  I am looking for Hitachi
CDR-3600u drives, 4 of them.  The drives you are describing sound like the
3500's and they will work just fine I'm sure.  If you still have them and
want to part with them, please give me a call.  Thanks.

Ronald R. Gage
Sysop, Sound Power Systems
Voice - (517) 792-5890

tlhlngan Hol Dajatlh'a'


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 163
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93 10:56p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Since many of you have already finished with Seventh Guest, how about selling
it to someone who hasn't got it yet?  I'll offer $30 for the game in good
condition, complete.

              Carlos
                   Netmail        1:125/17
                   BBS            415-641-0348
                   Voice          415-647-2881

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 164
  To: BEN NATION                               Date: 05/31/93 11:05p
Subj: Nix Pix Hot Pix 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

27 May 93 22:56, Ben Nation wrote to All:

 BN> for sale Nix Pix Hot PIx 1, Originally $89 plus shipping & handling
 BN> (approx. $100) will sell for $75 firm, this is the one banned in
certain

It was a pleasure to speak with you tonight, Ben.  I'll have that money
order in the mail before Wednesday.  Thanks,
              Carlos
                   Netmail        1:125/17
                   BBS            415-641-0348
                   Voice          415-647-2881

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From: CHARLES HELD                           Number: 165
  To: JIM CLEMENTS                             Date: 05/30/93  4:28p
Subj: Oxford english dictionary               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Defense will prove that on 05-28-93 at exactly 12:00, Jim Clements spake
thusly to John Hughes:

JC>JH>I'm looking for the Oxford English Dictionary. Does anyone know who
JC>JH>has the best price? The suggested retail price for the two-disk set
JC>JH>$895.
JC>
JC>
JC>The OED II at about $895 U.S. is one disc. There was an earlier two-di
JC>DOS version (only the original OED, none of them OED II updates). If y
JC>are going to spend that kind of money, make sure you are getting the O
JC>II. Cheers!

It is expensive at $895, but the CD is about 1/3 the cost of the bound
version (and a whole lot easier to search!)  Of course, if word origins and
language history are your thing, the OED is IT.  But don't drop $895 on it if
you just want to have "the biggest dictionary on your block".

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From: JOSEPH THOMAS                          Number: 166
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 06/01/93  9:59a
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JR>      in doing this.  BTW it does require unplugging the speakers from
 JR>      the Soundblaster and plugging into the drive, but if this is really
 JR>      problem free I may buy a second set of speakers.
 JR>                                 /JIM/
                  Are you saying, just pluging speaker to the 
         controller card, we can play cd ? Jim, pl. give us more
         Tnx.


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 167
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93  7:29p
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 ****      CD-ROM International * (800) 678-2374 (Order Line)          ****
 ****                   (509) 754-0724 (Voice)                         ****
 ****                   (509) 754-0109 (BBS/Fax)                       ****
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 Bibles & Religion ........... 12.00  Source CD-ROM ............... 17.00
 CD PowerBox ................. 22.00  Super Games for Windows .....  5.00
 Guinness Disc of Records .... 30.00  Too Many Typefonts .......... 12.00
 Night Owl's 7.0 ............. 19.00  USA Wars: American Civil War  29.00
 Night Owl's 8.0 ............. 29.00  USA Wars: Desert Storm ...... 29.00
 Publish-It! v2.0 ............ 29.00  USA Wars: Korea ............. 29.00
 Q&A v4.0 on CD-ROM .......... 59.00  USA Wars: Vietnam ........... 29.00
 Reference Library ........... 24.00  USA Wars: World War II ...... 29.00
 Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det ... 39.00  Super_CD II ................. 19.00
 Programmer's Mega Pack ...... 34.00

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 168
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93  7:34p
Subj: CD WinBox - WINDOWS DISK                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NEW Windows-based Shareware CD-ROM:

                       *#############*
                       #  CD WinBox  #         ONLY  $34!
                       *#############*

This is a GREAT addition for folks that already own the CD PowerBox.
If you're into WINDOWS - the WinBox is for you.  Here are the disc's stats:

*    Approximately 6,000 files.
*    Over 30% are TRULY dated 1993!
*    Over 620 MegaBytes of files, icons, articles, and
     bitmaps.
*    40 Files areas each with a multi-line file description
     in the FILES.BBS format.
*    Use the true Windows-based Graphical User Interface for
     quick file location and installation!
*    Huge amounts of applications (this disk is not just a
     collection of icons and graphics!)

#    AREA NAME:                    #    AREA NAME:
------------------------------     ----------------------------
1    New & Journals                21   Networking
2    Windows NT                    22   Windows for Workgroups
3    Financial & Investment        23   Communications A-M
4    Printer Utils/Drivers         24   Communications N-Z
5    Games A-M                     25   Icons Galore A-G
6    Games N-Z                     26   Icons Galore H-P
7    Personal Info. Managers       27   Icons Galore Q-Z
8    Multimedia - Video            28   Icon Apps/Utils
9    Multimedia - Sound A-M        29   Screen Savers
10   Multimedia - Sound N-Z        30   Fonts - ATM Type A-M
11   Developers Files              31   Fonts - ATM Type N-Z
12   Visual Basic A-M              32   Fonts - TrueType A-M
13   Visual Basic N-Z              33   Fonts - TrueType N-Z
14   Word for Windows              34   Fonts - Apps/Utils
15   Other Word Processors         35   Educational
16   Graphics - Apps/Utils         36   Spreadsheet Related
17   Graphics - BMP/RLE A-M        37   Database
18   Graphics - BMP/RLE N-Z        38   Apps A-J
19   Graphics - PCX A-M            39   Apps K-S
20   Graphics - PCX N-Z            40   Apps T-Z


CD-ROM International
(800) 678-2374  (Orders)
(509) 754-0724  (Voice)
(509) 754-0109  (BBS/Fax)


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From: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                       Number: 169
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/93  3:07a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** This message originally written by: Boris Osadciw

************ H O T  N E W /// GAMES 1993 \\\ H O T  N E W ************

         Here it is !!!  A complete BBS Ready " ALL GAMES DISK"
             File Dates - "89 - 93" - Most Files Are "92"
            6,000 + Files - 500+ Megs - 2% Duplication Max
  Unprotects, Solutions, Tetris Clones, Lotto, Casino, Sports, VGA
              Arcade, FS4, Utilities and more.......!!!
                             Price - $29.00
To order, please call our "ORDER LINE ONLY" # 800-243-0517 or for
additional information, call us at 216-225-3263 anytime 23.5hrs a day.

Boris Osadciw

... No, Taco Bell is NOT the Mexican telephone company!
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From: ROGER COLLINS                          Number: 170
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 05/31/93  8:11p
Subj: Adult ROMs Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  DA> Seeing as how a used CD is indistinguishable from a new CD (assu
->
->
-> I agree with Doug Adams - undamaged "used" CDs are as perfect as new
-> ones. I have Storm I & II, Private Pictures, and Erotic Encounters fo
-> sale (also trade) at $20 each plus $5/ORDER for shipping. Call me at
-> 713-488-0065 if you're interested. All items subject to prior sale -
-> not a dealer - these are "one each".


Well, I was gonna let this die, but seeing how I'm being pushed...
So what's the difference between new and used software period? Aren't
"Used" floppies as good as new ones (seeing how they get a lot less use
than CDs, I'd say so...) I don't figure. Anyways, end of thread


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 171
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/93  4:46p
Subj: Toshiba CD-ROM Drives                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


Toshiba XM-3201 SCSI CD-ROMS Drives.

External Unit:

Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
power supply and cable.  Include two Centronics 50 connectors mounted to
rear of the enclosure for I/O and passthru cabling.  Easy access to SCSI
ID DIP Switches to change addressing.  True SCSI. 350ms Access. 150k 
transfer rate.

$230.00

Internal Unit:

Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM bare drive.  DIP Switches for SCSI ID Setting.
True SCSI, 350ms Access, 150k transfer rate.

$200.00

205-837-5053


Michael Konor
AMIGA_CDROM Co.Moderator




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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 172
  To: CLINT SAVAGE                             Date: 05/31/93 12:16a
Subj: Cd's...                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS>DON'T TAKE A FULL LINE THEY GET TRUNCATED AND ARE UN-READABLE.

Has it gotten any better?

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 173
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 05/31/93 12:16a
Subj: Cd's...                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PD>Your CD listing is too wide for the BBS screen, so it can't be read.
Please
PD>shrink the margins and reupload.

Has it gotten any better?

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 174
  To: CAROLE JOHNSON                           Date: 05/31/93 12:16a
Subj: Cd-rom drives & bundles..               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CJ>> The Animals                                            $ > 29.99 Compton
CJ>Interactive Encyclopedia > $ 109.99 National Geographic Mammals > $ 
27.99

CJ>Thanks for the info.  I'll call before I order to make sure the price is
CJ>still in effect.

PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Drive, Danvers, MA 01923-3453 Phone: (508) 750-6600
- MASTERCARD & VISA ACCEPTED!!!!
-------------------------------------------------------------- CD's
-------------------------------------------------------------- The Animals   
                                           $28 Compton Interactive
Encyclopedia                         $103 National Geographic Mammals        
                      $26
--------------------------------------------------------------
Prices/specifications subject to change without notice. Cash discount 2.5%,
COD-$5 extra, requires $15 deposit.

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From: ANDREW MURPHY                          Number: 175
  To: BOB HILTON                               Date: 05/30/93  8:19a
Subj: How do i ...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hope somebody can help me figure this out ...
-> I have a SoundBlaster card and external CD-ROM drive from Creative
-> Designs attached to my main (desktop model) pc -- I'd like to also
-> connect the CD-ROM drive to my notebook pc through the parallel
-> port.  I don't need the sound card, and am willing to accept
-> a slightly slower data transfer rate, but I really want access to
-> the CD-ROM from the notebook pc.  Help! How do I do this?
->
-> Thanks, Bob.

How much do you need to use it?  If it is only needed when you have the
two computers together, you can use Unet or Lantastic Z to run a
parallel port network.  Unet is shareware, and allows the slave machine
to use the drives on the server, in this case your desktop.  That's one
solution.


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From: BOB BROCK                              Number: 176
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/01/93  1:55p
Subj: Re: Adult ROMs Wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ> I agree with Doug Adams - undamaged "used" CDs are as perfect as new 
BJ> ones. I have Storm I & II, Private Pictures, and Erotic Encounters for 
BJ> sale (also trade) at $20 each plus $5/ORDER for shipping. Call me at 

Sorry, i disagree USED is USED no matter what condition it's in! Everything
Looses a great deal of value the very first time it becomes used and after a 
few months OLD become out dated and STALE nobodies interested in a 2 months
old play boy or PC magazine.... These are not antiques or hard to find items,

get real there being SOLD because you don't want them RIGHT, why not there
PERFECTLY new and good condition!!

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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 177
  To: DEALERS                                  Date: 05/31/93  8:37a
Subj: Catalogs                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello, I've recently set up CD ROMs on my BBS and I need more disks!
Send me your catalogs:
  Phil Polstra
  PO Box 2
  Otterbein, IN 47970-0002

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 178
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 05/31/93  9:18p
Subj: ASIAN LADIES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DR>Call Ismail Arslangiray of GroupWare... he's in pretty tight with the
publis
DR>of Asian Ladies.  He knows EXACTLY who they are and where they're at. 
Ismai
DR>number is (800) 373-0628 or (206) 472-1400.

Thanks, Dave. I have to decide if I want to go to all of the time,
trouble, and expense to get lawyers involved. Several of the gifs that
they used are my scans from my (copyrighted) photos.

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * If I save the whales, where do I put them?


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 179
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93 11:21p
Subj: I am looking...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a cdrom that has clipart that I could use with my word
processors and dtp programs


sincerely
vito


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From: ALFRED FRANKLIN                        Number: 180
  To: MIKE MAST                                Date: 05/31/93  9:50p
Subj: Need A Cd Scsi Controller               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey,
 Thanks, I really need that Controller...Here is my # - 303-534-3384 ask for
AL! I am usually at home in the afternoons...Give me a call so that we can
set up something!
          Thanks again!
            Alfred Franklin

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From: DON HOUSTON                            Number: 181
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 05/31/93  9:50a
Subj: Cdrom retailer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Must call each month (or leave message via here, or my BBS) to recieve a
catalog.
        Gabe...add my name & address to your mailing list..Thannxxz!
                D. R. Houston
                P.O. Box 14341
                Tampa, Fl. 33690-4341


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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 182
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 05/31/93 11:14a
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den In               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hi lee, did you get the disks i sent you? i hope they are are suitable
for your needs. i could not send alot of them because of the girls in
them, they are local girls and did not wish to have themselves displayed
upon a public media such as a cd disk, sorry about that, but the ones i
did send have full consent, one is an old gilr friend, but i wont
mention which <G> she said no problemo. also are a few original cartoons
that i made here, hope that it will be ok...  see ya and take care, hope
that all is well for you... bye bye    rick (bubba) therrien
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 183
  To: JIM CLEMENTS                             Date: 05/31/93 11:17a
Subj: OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hello jim,  are you the same jim clements on the Tampa Bay area local
cable access shows????? if so call me at 813-934-3307 this is the bbs
number in tampa...  i have a friend of yours that is on this bbs..
give us a call ok?  see ya
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 184
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 05/31/93 11:18a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

what do you want in trade???????????????????
 let us know  , ennquiring minds need to know!
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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 185
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 06/01/93  6:06p
Subj: FRAUD!                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I like to think I am honest...  anyway, the cd boxes come  shrink
-> wrapped from the press. I can't add or take away anything without
-> breaking the wrap which I paid dearly to have put there.  I  hope


Terry, I was shocked to read part of my original message that you 
kindly echoed back to me. I NEVER meant to imply that you were in any 
way less than totally honest! That message from me to you reads in a 
totally different meaning than what I intended when I typed it. I was 
just trying to suggest a way of informing your buyers of the change.

Please accept my apology!!!

I see your point about the shrink wrap. Putting a sticker over the 
shrink wrap also takes a lot away from the product's visual appeal. 
Having a separate explanation sheet to go with the CD just complicates 
life for you and your distributors and other outlets.

I wish you great success with your CD. Your extra compacting of the 
files added value to the product (for BBS purposes). The only ill 
effect is to alter the numbers a little on the box liner.

James
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From: JOHN TRIMBACK                          Number: 186
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/01/93  9:32p
Subj: Re: Sony CD-ROM drive                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

scott i can offer you 1 - 4meg sim and 4- 256K sims for this drive? leave
mail...later!

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 187
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 05/31/93 11:10p
Subj: CDROM Retailer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GH>If you would like a catalog of over 400 CDROM titles, including games,

Hi Gabe,
     I would like to receive your catalog.    Shane Snyder
                                              286 Main St. Apt#3
                                              Greenville PA  16125
                      <THANKS>
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From: JEAN-GUY PARE                          Number: 188
  To: DOUG BURDEN                              Date: 06/01/93  9:08a
Subj: FREE CD-ROM CATALOGS!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Please include me in your catalog list!

   Sorry, but you send your message to the wrong personne.
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From: JEAN-GUY PARE                          Number: 189
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/01/93  9:12a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Jim,

Would appreciate being added to the mailing list, adult titles included.

Jean-Guy Pare
673 Clairette
Laval, Qc
H7P 2Y3

    Thanks for your attention.
          Jean-Guy
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 190
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/93  7:05p
Subj: Re: Cd speedway                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PJ> I have read in some CD echo that there is a BETTER cd-caching
 PJ> software and its put out by Norton. If you didn't know, thats all that
 PJ> CD-SpeedWay is, a chaching software. I hoped that helped you some. 

I just got an announcement today from an outfit called "Lucid" which is 
marketing a caching program called "Lightening" which is supposed to be
able to cache HDD and CDs. For those interested, Lucid is located at:

Lucid Corp.
101 W. Renner Road
Suite 450
Richardson, TX  75082

They also market a DASHBOARD-like product for Win 3.1 called The Third
Dimension.


... Mary had a little RAM -- only about a MEG or so.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 191
  To: VINCENT TESTA                            Date: 06/01/93  7:20p
Subj: Re: CDROM DISK                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Vincent Testa to All <=-

 VT> I am looking for NIXPIX volume 1 if anyone has it for sale?

Try Goosebump Graphics *OR* the manufacturer: Nix Pix Freedom Fortress near
Chicago. Goosebump advertises in Computer Shopper ansd other PC mags; NPFF
is a subscription-only BBS that takes VISA, MC, etc. online. Try this
number:
(708) 564-1092. It works at 14.4 (and perhaps lower) speeds.



... Tagline fever is the primary symptom of the Blue Wave epidemic!!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 192
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/01/93  7:14p
Subj: New Busty II                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> Thanks Babe !! You bet we are and there is going to be a "Busty Babes
 LN> Vol II", 1000 scans, no penetration shots on this disc--Just locked
 LN> into the deal this weekend--All material is copyrighted by
 LN> photographer and he is allowing it to go on the BBS. We expect to
 LN> bring this disc to market in 45 days (ready to ship). Gorgeous woman,
 LN> and top notch professional scanning. 

Is this the one you're gonna send me for a "no holds barred" review? Mike S.

isn't currently able to follow through on his offer to do something similar
so BB-2 could be the first! BTW: did you see my "strawman" evaluation
criteria?
If so, what did you think of it?

I know you've been at Comdex for the past few days, but it's surely good to
hear your melodious voice back on the echo again!  Cheers!
... "Milhouse, we live in the age of cooties!"  - Bart Simpson
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 193
  To: NANCY PORTER                             Date: 06/01/93  7:18p
Subj: Re: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Nancy Porter to Terry Blount <=-

 TB> I am getting a few more used internal Hitachi 3500's.  I will  be 
 TB>  offering them for $130 each. Controller cards are $60  that  will     

 TB>  run up to 4 of these drives.  4 of these drives are available for     

 TB>  $600 with controller card, case and cables  to  connect  to  your     

 NP>                             ^^^^^^^|^^^^^^^^ 
 NP> Wait a moment.                     |
     130                                |
 NP> x 4                                |
 NP> ---                                |
 NP> 520                                |
 NP> +60                                |
 NP> ---                                |
 NP> 580  + $20 for ---------------------
 NP> 
 NP> And YOU are selling them for $600?  Such a deal! <-- Sounds like a 
deal to me (if you need 4 drives in a S/A config.


... WARNING!  Removal of this tagline prohibited by law!
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From: KIPP CHAMBERS                          Number: 194
  To: LARRY WARNER                             Date: 05/31/93  8:36p
Subj: Re: FREE CD-ROM CATALOGS!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Well, Jim, it looks as if you'll be spending a lot of money on
stamps!  Please add me to your list (Send everything, if possible).
                                  
                Thanks,      
    
                        Kipp A. Chambers
                        110 Victoria Place
                        Fayetteville, GA 30214-1176
                                                       


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From: MIKE BOULTER                           Number: 195
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/01/93  3:59p
Subj: New catalog is done!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->    the asking!  Has complete pricing and descriptions on the 250+
->    CD titles that we keep IN STOCK on a regular basis!!

Please add me to your mailing list and include the catalog:

Mike Boulter
1107 Appleton Drive
Mansfield TX 76063


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From: CLIFF ESHOM                            Number: 196
  To: ED BAILEY                                Date: 05/31/93  4:53p
Subj: Mitsumi's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

thanks for the reply Ed.  (Yes tastes do vary alot! e.g. can/t
believe how many are into *so-called* adult CD's). It/s hard to know
what to buy without actually testing them first.
Will trade PC-Sig 10 for what have you....???


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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 197
  To: CD ROM SUPPLIERS                         Date: 06/01/93  7:47a
Subj: Catalogues                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Howdy Guys,

I'm looking for places that will ship CDROM discs and their associated
cataloges.

Kirk Rawnsley
5128 Grove Hill Road SW
Calgary Alberta
T3E 4G6


          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: GARY FRICKE                            Number: 198
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/01/93  8:37p
Subj: Free cd-rom catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like a catalog sent to me at the following address:

Greg Meeker
9500 NE 80th Ave.
Vancouver Washington 98662

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From: GARY FRICKE                            Number: 199
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/01/93  8:47p
Subj: CD Systems                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris a couple friends of mine are interested in cd-roms disks and
hardware... They would like catalouges...
Greg Meeker
9500 NE 80th ave
Vancouver, Washington 98662

Mike Mullikin
1763 SW Christy Ct.
West Linn, Oregon
97068

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 200
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/93  3:54a
Subj: How do I?                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How do I get my soundblaster to work with a Mitsumi internal drive?
Thanking you in advance,
Michael Sells


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 201
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/93  7:58p
Subj: CDROM Drive $120                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have 1 used Hitachi 2500 internal cd rom drive for sale for $120.

This INCLUDES the drive, the card (which will control up to 4 Hitachi
drives),
the cable, a copy of the manual for the drive and manual for controller, and
a floppy disk with HITACHIA.SYS (software driver), MSCDEX.EXE (v2.21) and
sample
CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT on it.

The drive is a full-height, caddyless drive.  It looks good, is clean and
works well (as does the controller).

$120 for the complete package (plus shipping).

              Carlos
                   Netmail        1:125/17
                   BBS            415-641-0348
                   Voice          415-647-2881

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 202
  To: BILL HENDERSON                           Date: 06/01/93  5:28p
Subj: 7th guest trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

I have nothing to trade, but will take it off your hands for a decent
price...
-Jeff


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 203
  To: JOHN DECARLO                             Date: 05/31/93 10:20p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <30 May 93  18:47:55>, John DeCarlo (1:109/131) writes:
 >I have FAO I and am tired of it.  Interested in trading?
If he isn't, I'm tired of Giffy Gold, wanna trade?


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 204
  To: BILL HENDERSON                           Date: 06/01/93 10:22a
Subj: 7th Guest Trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

In a message of <30 May 93  22:03:01>, Bill Henderson (1:379/1) writes:
 >I have a two week old copy of 7th Guest that I just can't get into...what 
 >do you have to trade? Really like to find Bible Library and Bibles and 
 >Religion CD-Roms, but will consider all. Leave me a note.
I would love to have this! I have Giffy Gold (adult), VGA Spectrum II, Mega
Audio/Visual, and Danger Hot Stuff!  I am also willing to throw in cash, let
me know if we can work a deal!


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From: PAUL DEEMER                            Number: 205
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/93  1:17p
Subj: Info Please                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
 
  To any Dealers or someone who has done this.
 
I have a Zeos 486dx2 66mhz desktop case and it only has one slot available
for an internal CD Rom drive, I have 7 expansion slots available and a 
Vesa slot. Anyway I know I should have gone with the Tower case but too 
late to worry about that now. Anyway I was thinking of getting 2 external
Scsi CD Rom drives but can't figure out how to use the internal SCSI
that is built into the zeos with an external cd rom. I was told I needed
a external port adapter or something like that. The zeos has a chip that
you buy for scsi for $49.00 and install it in the socket on the motherboard.
 
Does anyone know where to get the necessary adapter for extrnal scsi use?

I have been reading the messages in here for a long time and it seems as
tho the normal non SCSI, drives would work okay on a bbs. What would be
required to run 3 external cd rom drives daisy chained? Any info or 
recommendations would be greatly appreciated. This has been driving me
crazy for months as People have been telling me differnet things.
 
Whatever happened to the easy way where you just pop in a card and hook
the cd rom up to it and just plug in the other drives to the first drive
in a daisy chain arrangement? Someone please clarify the procedure and
necessary controllers, cards cables etc for both an SCSI arrangement and
a normal non scsi arrangement. Thanks......
      
       -Paul-


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From: REN JUST                               Number: 206
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93  7:33a
Subj: LINUX CD-ROM For Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
LINUX AND INTERNET FILES ON CD-ROM
  
LINUX, a UNIX operating system workalike now available
on CD-ROM.  Includes GNU C/C++ compiler, X-Windows,
TCP/IP, sound card support and much more.  Only $49.95.
 
Also CD-ROMs available with source code and applications
from internet servers for DOS, UNIX, Amiga, C and Mac.
Call or write for listing.
 
To receive your LINUX CD-ROM call and order with your
charge card
 
or send $49.95 + $3.00 S/H (CA residents add 7.25% tax) to:
 
Just Computers!
PO Box 751414
Petaluma  CA 94975-1414
  
707-769-1648
Internet: uonline@infoserv.com OR rjust@delphi.com
 
Visa and MasterCard gladly accepted.
 

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From: JOE VENTURELLI                         Number: 207
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/01/93  3:17p
Subj: Florida Lion's Den Inc. CD Complaint!   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Just a quick note to Echo Ms. Nogas sentiments concerning copyright
infringement etc. Publishers like myself and Lions Den have learned
the hard way that its not in anyones best interest to infringe
upon anyones copyrights. Further anyone doing an infringing disk
has two strikes against them #1 is the infringement and #2 is that
the "publisher" does not own the disk so another infringer can steal
the work and do some of their own infringing.
For Example the Seedy Rom Movie Disk #1 is a compilation of 80 minutes
of licensed Video footage and we will actively litigate any and
all infringements on that disk, as I assure you Lions Den will be
doing with their fine work.
Bottom line - The Adult disk market will be left to those who do it
by the book and the folks infringing on copyrights will find themselves in
court.
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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 208
  To: JEAN-GUY PARE                            Date: 06/01/93 11:56a
Subj: FREE CD-ROM CATALOGS!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Jean-guy:

In a msg of <Sunday May 30 1993>, Doug Burden writes to Jean-guy Pare:

 DB> Please include me in your catalog list!
 DB> DOug Burden
 DB> box 1163
 DB> Angus, Ontario
 DB> LOM 1BO

     From this I assume that you're handing out free cd-rom catalogs?  If so,
could you please send one my way?

     Tyler Wunder
     28 Huntingdale Pl.
     Kitchener, ON
     N2A 3K6

     I have yet to invest in a cd rom, and want to see what's available
before I fork over hard earned $.

     Thanks.


Tyler A. Wunder

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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 209
  To: BILL HENDERSON                           Date: 06/01/93 11:59a
Subj: 7th Guest Trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

G'day Bill:

In a msg of <Sunday May 30 1993>, Bill Henderson writes to All:

 BH> do you have to trade? Really like to find Bible Library and Bibles and
 BH> Religion CD-Roms, but will consider all. Leave me a note.

     I too would like to see this information on cd-rom.  Is there anything
out there like this?  Particularly, a nice collection of various religious
texts (not just the Bible, but other the texts of other religions, as well)
would be nice to own.




Tyler A. Wunder

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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 210
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/01/93 12:00p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Jim:

In a msg of <Sunday May 30 1993>, Scott Fisher writes to Jim Lambert:

 SF>      Jim,
 SF>       I'd appreciate being added to your mailing list, and I'd be
 SF>      interested in the adult titles as well. Thanks in advance,

     It seems you've got some sort of mailing list for cd-rom catalogs. 
Could you please put me on it?

     Tyler Wunder
     28 Huntingdale Pl.
     Kitchener, ON
     N2A 3K6

     Thanks.

Tyler A. Wunder

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 211
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/93  6:32a
Subj: CD-Rom Changer ?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can anyone tell me where I can get a CD-Rom Changer ?  I think thats 
basically what they are, You can place about 6-8 CD's in it, and access them 
all at any given time ??  Any help would be helpful, I seen One at a HamFest 
in Indy, and would like to find another.


              .....|<evin

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From: BRIAN PRINNER                          Number: 212
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 05/31/93  9:09a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM drives for $90               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>--  Ismail Arslangiray was caught relaying secret info to All  --<<

 IA> Mitsumi LU002S / Tandy 1000  CD-ROM Player $90
 IA>
 IA> CD-ROM drive
 IA> Controller Card
 IA> Manual
 IA> Access Software
 IA> Cable
 IA> Audio Cable
 IA>
 IA> ALL SALES ARE FINAL
 IA>
 IA> Currently we have only 67 units left
 IA>
 IA> Shipping: USA Add $5
 IA> Canada  $10
 IA> International: Exact US Postal Rates


    Don't know how many you have left at the time of this message
getting to you, but I might be interested in one.  Send me NetMail to
2210/633 letting me know the cod rates and such.  Thanks a bunch!  Talk
to ya later!

Brian


... 'My God, it's full of stores!' - 2001: a shopping odyssey
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From: SAM FERTITTA                           Number: 213
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/01/93  1:07p
Subj: Re: free cd-rom catalogs!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jim,

Can you send me a catalog also?

Thanks..

Sam Fertitta
77 Knickerbocker Rd
Pittsford NY 14534



... Sorry, the Dog ate my Blue Wave packet. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: DON DEMAERE                            Number: 214
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/01/93  8:28p
Subj: Sony CD-ROM drive                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Recently you advertised:

 SP>  I'm selling a Sony CD-ROM with 380ms and 150k/sec 
 SP> transfer.This includes all needed cables.I'll throw in 
 SP> LOOM too.I want $185(this includes Loom).
 SP> --- FMail 0.94

What model drive is this? If it's the CDU-7205, then I am interested. BTW,
what is LOOM?

Don

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From: BRANDAN UPSON                          Number: 215
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/93  5:42a
Subj: cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following CD's for sale.
 
 
        Mega CD-Rom 1                $15.00    650+meg shareware. 
                                               Includes door program to
                                               run it with.
 
        Ultima VI and Wing commander $25.00   Both on same CD.
 
        Great Cities of the World part II.  $25.00
 
If interested in any of these titles, post me back. Also willing to 
trade.

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From: BRANDAN UPSON                          Number: 216
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/93  5:43a
Subj: Hard drive                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am wanting to trade anyone a brand new 170MB Hard drive for an 
internal CD Rom drive. If interested, post back or call (913)383-9442.

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From: BRIAN KECK                             Number: 217
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/01/93  8:01p
Subj: Sony CD-ROM drive                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SP> I'm selling a Sony CD-ROM with 380ms and 150k/sec transfer.This includes
al
  >needed cables.I'll throw in LOOM too.I want $185(this includes Loom).


What MODEL number?? and int or ext???
Brian


 * QMPro 1.02 41-6221 * ######### <- Scratch Here For Your Instant Tagline
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From: SCOTT MCMILLAN @ 913/8                 Number: 218
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/93  5:12p
Subj: Large Qty prices                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sole Source Systems
8248 #B Ronson Road
San Diego, CA 92111
Tel: 619-467-0661
Fax: 619-467-0665
BBS: 619-467-0666

                                        June 1, 1993

             Special Reseller Large Quantity Pricing

Quantity ten (10) or greater required on each item for these
special prices, unless otherwise stated.  Minimum order must exceed
$500, prepaid only - NO COD's, FOB San Diego California.

501 Sound Waves                                            $19.00
Asian Ladies (Adult)                                       $20.00
Composer Quest                                             $26.00
Darwin - Origin of the Species (3 minimum)                 $39.00
Daytime Express (5 Minimum)                                $16.00
Giffy Gold (Adult - Amatuer)                               $18.00
Libris Britanica                                           $22.00
Marketing Master (Minimum 5)                               $15.00
MegaRom 1 (Shareware)                                      $12.00
Moving Fantasies (Adult)                                   $16.00
National Parks (Minimum 5)                                 $31.00
National Trade Databank - March '93 - 2 disc (Minimum 3)   $25.00
Phone Disk USA (3 Disk Set - Spring '93)                  $105.00
Power Talk (How to make big bucks in the 90's)             $23.00
Pro Phone '92 (3 disk set)                                 $35.00
Romware Magazine '92 - Collector's Item                     $7.00
Shareware Studio                                           $12.00
Simtel 20 - January '92                                     $5.50
So Much Shareware II (5 Minimum)                           $16.00
Space Quest IV                                             $14.00
Time Compact Almanac 1990                                   $6.50
Too Many Type Fonts                                         $7.50
U.S. History                                               $21.00
VGA Spectrum II                                            $16.00
Visual Fantasies (Adult)                                   $16.00
Willy Beamish                                              $14.00
Women of Venus                                             $16.00
Languages of the World - Limited Quantity                  $35.00

Caddies

We have the standard sony type caddies - all japanese construction,
which is better - yet more expensive than the american product.
For resellers, we have the following prices:

Japanese "Sony" type caddies
Qty 100+ $4.00 each
Qty 300+ $3.80 each

We also have the new swiss designed and manufactured "TriCaddy",
this revolutionary new product has no moving parts.  It is
completely made of plastic and it is designed with the User who
stores his CD's in their caddies permanently.  The user can remove
his jewel case insert and place it in the front of the Caddy.

Swiss "TriCaddy" type caddies
Qty 50+  $4.00 each
Qty 100+ $3.65 each
Call for large Qty price!

These prices are good through June 21, 1993.  After that, the
prices return to normal.  Any order which does not meet the
quantity requirements described above will be charged the normal
reseller price.

     I look forward to hearing from you!

                    Scott A. McMillan
                    General Manager

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From: MARLINA MALONEY                        Number: 219
  To: BRIAN PUNTNEY                            Date: 06/01/93 11:23a
Subj: CDs                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I have So Much Shareware 2 for $15.  It has a good collection of stuff
 > for everyone.  Has FILES.BBS in every directory, for easy setup on a
 > BBS.  It is used, but in excellent condition.

   If your offer for the above is still available I will send you $17.90 to
cover cost and 2 day air shipping (US Postal MO Prepaid). All I will require
is an address.  Thanx...  Marlina
Marlina Maloney - Voice: (716)-895-5549 til 1 AM
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 220
  To: ROGER COLLINS                            Date: 06/02/93 12:28p
Subj: Adult ROMs Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I agree about used S/W in general, *IF* the original owner hasn't registered
the S/W. If he has, then I'm not certain it would be legal to re-sell it
unless the registration was transferrable. CDs don't (usually) have
registration per se other than to build the customer list for the
distributor. At any rate, I agree: end of thread.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 221
  To: BOB BROCK                                Date: 06/02/93 12:33p
Subj: Re: Adult ROMs Wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Not wanting them does not equate to them being damaged or out-of-date like a
magazine (which by the way tend to *INCREASE* in value with age - try buying
a first edition of Playboy - or of Busty Babes for that matter). Since
there's presently no realtively easy way to preview CDs (shareware or image
types), purchasers are left with few options to recoup some of their costs.
Selling so-called used CDs at a discounted price, even in perfect condition,
seems reasonable to me. Being asked to sell them at "garage sale" prices is
unreasonable IMHO.  Anyway -- end of thread.

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From: ROGER COLLINS                          Number: 222
  To: NANCY PORTER                             Date: 06/01/93  9:20p
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> TB> I am getting a few more used internal Hitachi 3500's.  I will  be
-> TB>  offering them for $130 each. Controller cards are $60  that  wil
-> TB>  run up to 4 of these drives.  4 of these drives are available fo
-> TB>  $600 with controller card, case and cables  to  connect  to  you
->
-> Wait a moment.  130
->                 x 4
->                 ---
->                 520
->                 +60
->                 ---
->                 580
->
-> And YOU are selling them for $600?  Such a deal! <Sigh!>

I believe that means you are getting a case for the above for only
20.00, which is a deal.

Of course, you *can* get the Pioneer unit for just a little more, which
is a *better* deal, if you need 6 drives.


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From: LAWRENCE MINTZ                         Number: 223
  To: NANCY PORTER                             Date: 06/01/93 11:51p
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > TB> I am getting a few more used internal Hitachi 3500's.  I will  be
 > TB>  offering them for $130 each. Controller cards are $60  that  will
 > TB>  run up to 4 of these drives.  4 of these drives are available for
 > TB>  $600 with controller card, case and cables  to  connect  to  your

 > Wait a moment.  130
 >                 x 4
 >                 ---
 >                 520
 >                 +60
 >                 ---
 >                 580

 > And YOU are selling them for $600?  Such a deal!
 > <Sigh!>

You obviously overlooked the fact that the $130 price is for bare drives
while the $600 price is for 4 drives, CASE and controller.  Where does the
price of the cabinet and cables appear in YOUR little calculation.

Larry

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 224
  To: PAUL JANEL                               Date: 06/01/93  8:05p
Subj: Cd-rom catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PJ>Are you selling Share Ware Studio 2? 
  >If so, how much? 
 
Sorry, we haven't received it yet.  It will probably be on the next list 
I get from my supplier. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 225
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/01/93  8:14p
Subj: BBS CD-ROM Disc                         Refer: NONE
Read: 06/04/93  9:04a                       Private: No 

TH>Please *don't* respond to "send me a catalog" messages - just send um a 
  >catalog and be done with it.  Telling your customers that it's on the 
  >way accomplishes nothing, as the catalog should arrive b4 your message. 
 
Sure thing, Tim.  That makes sense. <G> 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JAMES BOWMAN                           Number: 226
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/02/93 12:08a
Subj: CD-ROM Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send a catalog to:
        James Bowman
        1776 Liberty Lane, Apt A-1
        Blacksburg, Va. 24060
Adult titles also!!
Thanks!!

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From: BRIAN HIPPS                            Number: 227
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/93 12:55p
Subj: Cd' for kids - cfk's                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Help me please!! It's summer break from school again and I'll be babysitting
my 2nd and 4th graders at home. I need some educational cd's to keep their
little minds occupied till August 30. Any suggestions on what I should get?
They seem to bore easily if it's percieved as traditional education <g>. Any
info would be appreciated from venders, dealers, or those experienced with
kids of this age. Helllllllppppppppppp.


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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 228
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 06/01/93 11:27p
Subj: CDROM Retailer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GH> If you would like a catalog of over 400 CDROM titles, including 
GH> Must call each month (or leave message via here, or my BBS) to 
 
Please send catalog to: 
 
Chris Snyder 
RR 4 Box 306 
West Frankfort, IL 62896 
 
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 229
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 06/01/93 11:27p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Willy Beamish                                             $54 
>Willy Beamish (OEM)                                       $22 
 
What is OEM? 
 
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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 230
  To: DOUG BURDEN                              Date: 06/01/93  8:31a
Subj: FREE CD-ROM CATALOGS!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Please include my in your catalog list.

 > Doug Burden
 > box 1163
 > Angus, Ontario
 > Canada L0M 1B0

You posted this to the wrong person. I am not distributing these but did ask
for one.

Chris

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From: CRAIG MOSER                            Number: 231
  To: WALT LANE                                Date: 06/01/93 11:03p
Subj: RE-Re: FRAUD!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WL> Walt Lane - Sysop: The File Shop BBS

Hey Walt....thought I saw your name here! The ISO Mac CD is coming along!
WIll keep you and all interested here abreast of its availability!

Craig :)

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 232
  To: JOHN DECARLO                             Date: 06/02/93  6:35a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JD>On <May 29 08:47>, Terry Woodward (1:369/14) wrote:

JD> TW >I have the following Cd's for trade.
JD> TW >Smutware
JD> TW >My private collection,volume 2
JD> TW >Adult reference library
JD> TW >PC-Pix, volume 2

JD>I have FAO I and am tired of it.  Interested in trading?

Sorry, I got rid of FAO a long time ago. What else you got?

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 233
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 06/02/93  6:36a
Subj: Re: Adult cd's to swap                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KP>  Well I have Volcano (ADULT) and VGA Spectrum for trade, If interested,
Jus
KP>leave me a Note...

I'm interested in the Volcano. What's VGA Spectrum?

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Love is grand.  Divorce, twenty grand.


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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 234
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 06/02/93  6:41a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RD> >PC-Pix, volume 2
RD>I have Giffy Gold, I am interested in any of the above for a straight
across
RD>trade. But first tell me, what is the Adult reference library? I don't
think
RD>want this one, but would like to know what it is.

ARL is just another Adult Gif disk. It has more 800x660 pics than some
others. I've sort of got it reserved for Bob Jackson.
I'd like to get your Giffy Gold. I'll be delighted to send you
the PC-Pix, volume 2. Leave me an address or go ahead and send the Giffy
Gold disk. My address is:
Terry Woodward
2649 Marathon Lane
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33312

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 235
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/02/93  7:01a
Subj: CDrom Statistics                        Refer: NONE
Read: 06/04/93  9:05a                       Private: No 

TH>There's a new CD ROM magazine that covers info like this - info that
TH>goes beyond the concerns of the end user... It's called CD-ROM Today and
TH>is published by GP Publications...

Thanks, Tim. I'll call them today.

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 236
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/02/93  7:04a
Subj: Re: Texel DM-3024                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>If your going to hook the Texel to the Pro, then you'll need the sound
BO>kit, which we have in stock and it's priced at $25. This gives you the
BO>cable, manual, drivers for the Pas and another scsi cable as well.

Boris,
Does this cable allow external drives to be connected to the PAS?

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 237
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/02/93  7:05a
Subj: Sony CD-ROM drive                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SP> I'm selling a Sony CD-ROM with 380ms and 150k/sec transfer.This includes
al
SP>needed cables.I'll throw in LOOM too.I want $185(this includes Loom).

What model? Scsi? Internal/external?

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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 238
  To: PAUL JANEL                               Date: 06/01/93  9:05p
Subj: SHAREWARE STUDIO VOL. 2                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> There is a guy selling that same CD for ONLY $22.95... can you beat
-> that?
   Hi Paul!
       Yep, I can beat it!  Where did you see the ad, and which
distributor had it?  Just give me a call at 306-789-4654, and I'll set
you up with a copy!

   -=* .\\ichellea *=-
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From: MIKE MORGAN                            Number: 239
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 06/02/93  8:37a
Subj: I am looking...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 VS> I am looking for a cdrom that has clipart that I could use with my word
 VS> processors and dtp programs


I just got the softwarevault cd collection, among other things it has several
megs of clip art and several different programs to manipulate graphics with. 
A friend of mine here puts out a advertisement flyer for commercial purposes
and swears by it.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 240
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 05/31/93  8:35a
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


JR>     I just discovered a really great feature of this drive.  I'm
 JR> going     to have to read the manual more often.  I  just  stick
 JR> my     favorite audio disk in the drive  and  run  CDPLAY  which
 JR> came on  the          installation  disk  and  I've  got  music.
  
  No flame intended... but even my used Hitachi  3500's  will  play
  music and they are only $130 each.
  
 JR> put it in my startup     file.  I can then go  about  any  other
 JR> task on the machine with music     in the background.    I  have
 JR> not  noticed  any  conflict  with  other          programs  yet,
  
  You must not run DesQview.   If  you  try  to  use  cdplay  under
  DesQview you will get jumping and skipping and it  won't  work...
  but if you find the small program called "Playback" it will  work
  under DV.
  
 JR> doing this.  BTW it does require unplugging  the  speakers  from
 JR> the Soundblaster and plugging into the drive,  but  if  this  is
 JR> really     problem free I may buy  a  second  set  of  speakers.
  
  You should get a SB pro and hook up the  drive  internally.   All
  you need is a couple of wires you can find in any old VCR.   Hook
  up the right and left channel and the ground will go through  the
  motherboard.  You can then control the volume, mute  etc  through
  the keyboard.
 
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 241
  To: DAVE HITT                                Date: 05/31/93  8:42a
Subj: Some Disk Recommendations               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


DH> listing of what's on the two disks.  My only complaint is that
 DH> too much of disk one is devoted to software and utitlties for
 DH> various BBSs.
  
 I agree.  The author should have separated the bbs stuff so that
 sysops could put that disc in the drawer and the onther one in
 the cd drive for the users.
 
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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 242
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/93  1:07p
Subj: CD-ROM Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


Toshiba XM-3201 SCSI CD-ROMS Drives.

External Unit:

Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
power supply and cable.  Include two Centronics 50 connectors mounted to
rear of the enclosure for I/O and passthru cabling.  Easy access to SCSI
ID DIP Switches to change addressing.  True SCSI. 350ms Access. 150k 
transfer rate.  External headphone jack and volume control.

$230.00

Internal Unit:

Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM bare drive.  DIP Switches for SCSI ID Setting.
True SCSI, 350ms Access, 150k transfer rate.  External headphone jack and
volume control.

$200.00

205-837-5053
leave message if not home, it WILL be returned.

Michael Konor
AMIGA_CDROM Co.Moderator




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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 243
  To: JOHN TRIMBACK                            Date: 06/02/93 10:35p
Subj: Sony CD-ROM drive                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JT> scott i can offer you 1 - 4meg sim and 4- 256K sims for
 JT> this drive? leave mail...later!

 JT> --- Star-Net v1.02
 JT>  * Origin: Phila. Amiga Users' Group BBS 215-551-1485/6113
 JT> (1:273/912.0)
.
  Sorry...I have pleny of RAM for the moment.If you are interested in paying
for it...let me know.
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From: PAULA COE                              Number: 244
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/03/93  1:40a
Subj: Re: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jim,
I would like a copy of your catalog as well. Thanks in advance.

Paula Coe
142 Crossbow Dr.
Pikeville, NC 27863-9600

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 245
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/93  8:02a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Drive, Danvers, MA 01923-3453
>Phone: (508) 750-6600 - Mastercard & Visa accepted!!!!
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>CD's
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>CD-ROM caddies                                             $5
>American Business Phone Book                              $23
>Anim. Fant. 1 or 2                                        $30
>The Animals                                               $28
>Battle Chess                                              $22
>Bible library                                             $26
>Bibles & Religion                                         $13
>Britannica Select                                         $39
>Busty Babes                                               $30
>Carmen San Diego                                          $27
>CD Game Pack II                                           $26
>Chessmaster 3000                                          $27
>Clipart Goliath                                           $13
>Colossal Cookbook                                         $13
>Complete Bookshop                                         $13
>Compton Interactive Encyclopedia                         $103
>Dictionaries & Languages                                  $13
>Ecstasy                                                   $30
>Erotic Encounters                                         $30
>Gigabyte Gold                                             $31
>Groliers STW Encyclopedia (windows, or 5.0 M/M)           $53
>Hot Pix (2, 3, or 4)                                      $36
>Hot Stuff 1                                               $18
>Hot Stuff 2                                               $25
>Inspector Gadget                                          $45
>KGB-CIA Factbook                                          $31
>King's Quest 5                                            $23
>Kodak Photo CD                                            $33
>Loom                                                      $30
>Lovely Ladies II                                          $31
>Mayo Clinic                                               $97
>Microsoft Works                                           $99
>Microsoft Bookshelf                                       $65
>Mixed Up Mother Goose                                     $23
>Moving Fantasies                                          $31
>MPC Wizard                                                $14
>National Geographic Mammals                               $26
>National Parks                                            $31
>Night Owl (7 or 8)                                        $26
>OS/2 Hobbes                                               $16
>Our Solar System                                          $13
>PC Sig 11                                                 $26
>PC Sig Games                                              $16
>PC Pix (1, 2, or 3)                                       $31
>Physical Therapy                                          $16
>Pro Phone 1992                                            $33
>Pro Phone 1993                                           $107
>Publishit 2.0 (DOS)                                       $28
>Rimfire Pacific                                           $34
>Seventh Heaven                                            $31
>Seventh Guest                                             $67
>Sherlock Cons 1                                           $28
>Smutware                                                  $26
>So Much Stareware                                         $27
>Soundworks                                                $19
>Storm (I, II, or III)                                     $31
>Street Atlas USA                                          $97
>Shareware Extravaganza                                    $39
>Shareware Studio                                          $28
>Technotools                                               $13
>Too Many Typefonts                                        $13
>US Atlas w/ Automap                                       $26
>VGA Spectrum 1                                            $13
>Willy Beamish                                             $54
>Willy Beamish (OEM)                                       $22
>Windows 1993                                              $22
>Wing Commander 2/Ult. Underground                         $60
>Wing Commander 2/OPS                                      $60
>Women In Motion                                           $31
>x11R5/GNU                                                 $22
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>Prices/specifications subject to change without notice.
>Cash discount 2.5%, COD-$5 extra, requires $15 deposit.

===
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 246
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/93  8:02a
Subj: Cd-rom drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Drive, Danvers, MA 01923-3453
>Phone: (508) 750-6600 - Mastercard & Visa accepted!!!!
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>CD-Rom drives                                           Price
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>>Texel 265ms SCSI internal                               $374
>>Texel 265ms SCSI external                               $457
>>Texel internal bundle                                   $605
>>Texel external bundle                                   $697
>>Texel internal Multimedia bundle                        $923
>>Texel external Multimedia bundle                      $1,036
>>Chinon external                                         $459
>>Chinon internal                                         $338
>>Magnavox CDD-461RS                                      $395
>Mitsumi internal CD-ROM                                  $193
>Mitsumi external CD-ROM                                  $285
>>Magnavox CM-205XRS, internal                            $361
>NEC MultiSpin 38 portable                                $417
>NEC MultiSpin 84 internal                                $534
>NEC MultiSpin 74 external                                $595
>Tandy CDR-1000 CD-ROM w/ card                            $150
>Toshiba XM3401 200ms internal                            $472
>Toshiba XM3401E 200ms external                           $577
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>Prices/specifications subject to change without notice.
>Cash discount 2.5%, COD-$5 extra, requires $15 deposit.

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From: EDWARD DELGROSSO                       Number: 247
  To: PAUL JANEL                               Date: 05/26/93 11:01p
Subj: New catalog is done!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <May 25 19:53>, Paul Janel of 1:2613/220 writes:

 PJ> Could you send me a catalog?

     I think you replied to the wrong person..... I don't sell CD's ONLY buy
them.....

Ed

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 248
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 06/02/93  4:45p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BT>what do you want in trade???????????????????

Adult cdroms.

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Being a writer is like always having homework -Jane
Adam


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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 249
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 06/02/93  9:41p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I have Giffy Gold,

I have Physical Therapy, volume 3, an almost exact duplicate of XXX Extreme
that I would trade for the above.  I  bought this one at comdex, and did not
realize it duplicated extreme, so it is in perfect condition.  Interested?

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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 250
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/02/93  4:48p
Subj: Cd-rom catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi, could you send me a catalog of CDs? I'm in the market for ShareWare CDs,
and BBS stuff, like Inexpensive cd-rom drives. And i would also like to add a
comment about catalogs.... Could you put AS much info about the CDs as
possible (like how many megs, FILES.BBS descriptions, type of directorys....
ect.)

Right now im looking for ShareWare Studio 2 (it looks the best to me, and the
creator wrote ALOT of info about it)

Please send it to:
Paul Janel
280 curtis road
Hilton NY 14468
Thank you very much!


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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 251
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 05/31/93  5:34p
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >    in the background.  I have not noticed any conflict with other 
  >    programs yet, it must not even be using the CPU because I can't 
 
 yeah. it's a small tsr.  just don't use DESQVIEW with it, and you'll 
continue to enjoy it.  Desqview is the only prog I know of that locks it 
up! even when it is executed before running it. 
 
        Tim Klan 
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From: MIKE WALKER                            Number: 252
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/02/93  1:00a
Subj: Cd-rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Could I please get a copy of you catalog

Mike Walker
5642 Leesway Blvd
Pensacola, Florida.
           32504-7726

Thanks
P.S. Adult titles also thanks !

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From: VINCENT TESTA                          Number: 253
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/93 12:47p
Subj: night owl??                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi'ya All ...

Has anyone heard of night owl 9 ?? or if and when it's coming out??

Thanks..


Ciao, Vincent

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From: JIM MCEWEN                             Number: 254
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/01/93  8:50p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you send to Canada, I would like a Catalog.....

Please send to

                   James D. McEwen
                   30 Hatcher Road
                   Winnipeg Manitoba
                   R2C 3V8
                   Canada
                                     Thanks......


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From: JIM MCEWEN                             Number: 255
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/01/93  9:01p
Subj: Free cd-rom catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jim....
     I hope this message gets to you...
Can you send a Catalog to Canada...?
If you do.....
               Please send two (if that's O.K.) to....

                 James D. McEwen
                 30 Hatcher Road
                 Winnipeg Manitoba
                 R2C 3V8
                 Canada
With thanks...............................Jim


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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 256
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/02/93  6:42a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Howdy Jim,

 JL> Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer
 JL> Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address, and we'd be

Kirk Rawnsley
5128 Grove Hill Road SW
Calgary Alberta
T3E 4G6

          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 257
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 06/02/93  6:45a
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Howdy Dave,

31 May 93, Dave Reed writes to All:

 DR>  ****      CD-ROM International * (800) 678-2374 (Order Line)
 DR> **** ****                   (509) 754-0109 (BBS/Fax)


   Bibles & Religion ........... 12.00
   Reference Library ........... 24.00
   Source CD-ROM ............... 17.00

Care to list exactly what is on these titles?


          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: TIMOTHY C. NOVAK                       Number: 258
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/02/93  3:12a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi drive audio                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ> memory while they're active. Likely, if you'd route the CD's audio
outputs 
BJ> your sound board's inputs, you wouldn't have to disconnect the speakers
to
BJ> take advantage of this capability.

How do you do this?  I have a Sound Blaster (original) and have tried to 
connect my Cd's outputs to the Sound Blaster's inputs and I didn't get 
anything out of it.  Is there something "special" that I missed?

Thanks,

Timothy

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From: KURT ANNO                              Number: 259
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/93  5:24p
Subj: Used CD-Rom                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a good used CD-Rom or a cheap new one.

Kurt Anno


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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 260
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/02/93 11:00p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL> Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer 
 
Send to: 
 
Chris Snyder 
RR 4 Box 306 
West Frankfort, IL 62896 
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 261
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 06/02/93  6:28p
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den In               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <05-31-93 11:14> Bubba Therrien wrote:

BT>> hi lee, did you get the disks i sent you?

Got them, Thanks a million--Busty Babes is going backon the market in July as
an "R" rated disk--Major facelift ! They will be on there !

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 262
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 06/02/93  6:31p
Subj: Re: I am looking...                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <05-31-93 23:21> Vito Servideo wrote:
VS>> I am looking for a cdrom that has clipart that I could use with my
VS>> word
VS>> processors and dtp programs

Encyclopedia of ClipArt--Ask an dealer in the echo. Its all PCX and no
garbage--Mnaual for this will be released in the summer that gives you
pictures of all the 11,000 clips.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 263
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/04/93 10:22p
Subj: CD Stats                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Atlanta Computer Currents (Jay Communications, Inc.) recently did a fax
poll on CD ROM... They didn't state the sample size, but I assume it's
sufficient.  Anyhow:

How many titles do you own?
---------------------------
0-2   35%
2-4   18%
4-8   29%
8 +   16%

What do you use CD ROM for?
---------------------------
Entertainment  24%
Multimedia     24%
Education      23%
Other          10%
Shareware       9%

How much money invested in CD's?
--------------------------------
$  0 - $ 250  57%
$250 - $ 500  28%
$500 - $ 750   6%
$750 - $1200   2%
$1200 +        4%

How much did you pay for your player?
-------------------------------------
$  0 - $ 350  27%
$350 - $ 600  62%
$600 - $ 850   6%
$850 - $1100   2%

Where did you buy your player?
------------------------------
Mail Order  41%
Retailer    31%
Superstore  19%
VAR          4%
Mass Merc.   2%

Do you plan on upgrading?
-------------------------
No  65%
Yes 35%

If upgrading, why?
------------------
Faster drive  40%
Other         28%
Multimedia    20%
Interface      5%
Kodak Comp.    5%

93% of the people who don't own players did say that they plan on using
CD ROM in the future... And from my experience, 10%-15% of everyday BBS
users own a CD ROM player.

tim
moderator
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From: JIM REED                               Number: 264
  To: PAUL JANEL                               Date: 06/01/93  4:23p
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PJ>Where did you get this drive, and how much did you pay? Thanks!

Hi Paul;
        I paid $169 and got it from a systems integrator that I deal
        with through my work.  Not sure what the street price is but it
        shouldn't be much different.
                                /JIM/

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From: JIM REED                               Number: 265
  To: JOSEPH THOMAS                            Date: 06/02/93  3:21p
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JT> JR>      in doing this.  BTW it does require unplugging the speakers from
JT> JR>      the Soundblaster and plugging into the drive, but if this is
reall
JT> JR>      problem free I may buy a second set of speakers.
JT> JR>                                 /JIM/
JT>                  Are you saying, just pluging speaker to the
JT>         controller card, we can play cd ? Jim, pl. give us more
JT>         Tnx.

Hi Joseph;
        My drive (Internal) has a headset jack on the front.  I unplug
        the speakers from the SB and plug them into the front of the
        drive itself.  The speakers are very inexpensive KOSS powered
        stero speakers.  I don't remember how much I paid for them but
        think it was around $40.  I set the speaker volume control about
        mid range and use the volume control on the front of the drive.
        The PLAYCD utility has a full set of standard playback controls
        i.e. stop, pause, play, back-a-track, fwd-a-track, and a few
        others.  Only conflict I have run into so far is that when I
        start an upload it turns off the music, real strange since when
        I download it remains playing.  That's about everything I know
        about it.  There is a small section in the manual that describes
        it but then who reads manuals.
                                /JIM/

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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 266
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/93  1:06a
Subj: Hitachi CDROM drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi all!  I need to know if rumors I have heard are true.

1) 1 Hitachi CDROM proprietary controller handles 4 Hitachi Drives

2) You can have 4 Hitachi controllers in the same machine giving you 16
CDROM drives.......

James
 þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Captain I believe thats the sound of a phaser on overload


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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 267
  To: JOSEPH THOMAS                            Date: 06/03/93  1:09a
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JT> JR>      in doing this.  BTW it does require unplugging the speakers from
JT> JR>      the Soundblaster and plugging into the drive, but if this is
reall
JT> JR>      problem free I may buy a second set of speakers.
JT> JR>                                 /JIM/
JT>                  Are you saying, just pluging speaker to the
JT>         controller card, we can play cd ? Jim, pl. give us more


If you plug the audio cords from the Mitsumi into the MIC in port on the
soundblaster and set the soundblaster /LINE:12 you can here a CD normal
through the SB speakers.

james
 þ OLX 2.1 TD þ --T-A+G-L-I+N-E--+M-E-A+S-U-R+I-N-G+--G-A+U-G-E--


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 268
  To: SAM FERTITTA                             Date: 06/02/93  5:49a
Subj: Looking for cd's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SF>Now that I have finally gotten a CDRom, I am quite anxious to get some
used 
  >CD's. SOme for dad, some for the kids. The kids would like Sherlock Holmes
2 
  >3, Mammals, Karyndia(?), Dinosaurs, or any others that might come to mind.
F 
  >dad, well, any xxxx-rated cd's out there? 
 
I'd be glad to send you a catalog if you would post your address or give 
me a call at Computer Works.  Thanks! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS (cdrom.zip) 
 
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From: CRAIG LARSEN                           Number: 269
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/93 12:17a
Subj: Multimedia Kits *CHEAP*                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                             Multimedia Kits


  Kit A

  Mitsumi 005S  CD-ROM  320ms w/ interface card.
  1 CD   (Lynx, Jet Fighter, Bernstein Bears, Faces (Tetris))  --->  $219

  Kit B

  Kit A plus:
  Aztech NX-PRO Sound Galaxy Soundboard w/speakers             --->  $295

  Kit C

  Kit B plus 4 additional CD's:

 Compton Multimedia Encylopedia for Windows,
 Dictionary of the Living world,
 KGB/CIA world Fact Book
 Grammy Awards (Trivial Pursuit type game w/ music)            --->  $375



        Prices Include Shipping and reflect a 2% cash discount.


Call 1-800-473-8330  (voice 24 hours)  Leave a message w/your voice #.

Payment terms:

Visa and Mastercard
Money Order                      No C.O.D.'s
Cashier's Check
Personal Check (will proccess order after it clears)

                                    Larsen Consulting and Sales
                                    7017 N. Litchfield Rd.  Suite 309
                                    Glendale, AZ   85307

Quantity Discounts Available !

















































































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From: CRAIG LARSEN                           Number: 270
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/93 12:18a
Subj: DoubleSpeed CD-ROM Bundle               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                                Multimedia Kit


   * Talon Internal CD ROM Drive
      --- Made by Texel  This is the same drive NEC uses for their 84J Model
      --- Photo CD Compatible
      --- 64k Buffer
      --- Multispin
      --- 280ms CD ROM
      --- 300k Transfer Rate

   * SoundBlaster Pro Compatible Board

   * Amplified Stereo Speaker Set

   * Headphones

   * Installation Guide

   * CD ROM Titles included:

      Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
      Software Jukebox
      Guinness Disc of Records
      The Animals
      National Parks Guide
      Sherlock Holmes
      Mayo Clinic Health Guide


                       All for $649 Including Shipping !

                      First Three Customers get $10 off !


Call 1-800-473-8330  (voice 24 hours)  Leave a message w/your voice #.

Payment terms:

Visa and Mastercard
Money Order                      No C.O.D.'s
Cashier's Check
Personal Check (will proccess order after it clears)

                                    Larsen Consulting and Sales
                                    7017 N. Litchfield Rd.  Suite 309
                                    Glendale, AZ   85307

Quantity Discounts Available !

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From: BILL HUFF                              Number: 271
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/01/93  5:43p
Subj: CD Systems                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris,
        I'm interested in an NEC CDR-74.  Do you have one?  How much?
        Bill
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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 272
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/93  9:23p
Subj: Multimedia                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To whom it may concern-or know for that matter-I am new to the world of
cd-roms and was wondering if anyone could explain what are the
differences in cd\roms.  for instence what is multi-media?  Or mpc?
What is the difference between __ms access time and transfer rates?
I want to buy a rom but don't know what i need.  I am looking for one
that will handle games and music but don't want to spent four diget
figures.  is the mitsumi that i have been seeing for $175-195 any good?
Thanks a million,

Michael Hansen

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 273
  To: NANCY PORTER                             Date: 06/02/93  8:53p
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <31 May 93  10:07:00>, Nancy Porter (1:105/18) writes:

 >TB>  $600 with controller card, case and cables  to  connect  to  your    
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
 > 
 >Wait a moment.  130 
 >                x 4 
 >                --- 
 >                520 
 >                +60 
 >                --- 
 >                580 
 > 
 >And YOU are selling them for $600?  Such a deal! <Sigh!> 
You think the case/power supply and cables are free?? I would love to have
and  external case/power supply and cable set for $20, it is a good deal. 

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 274
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/02/93  9:10p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Disks                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <01 Jun 93  03:07:00>, Boris Osadciw (1:157/46) writes:

I just saw Lee's message about Busty Babes II, put me down for one of your 
first copies of this. (I know it will be about mid July before I see it, but
 put me down anyways). 

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From: CAROLE JOHNSON                         Number: 275
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 06/03/93  2:00a
Subj: Cd-rom drives & bundles..               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > The Animals                                               $28
 > Compton Interactive Encyclopedia                         $103
 > National Geographic Mammals                               $26
 >  * RM 1.0 00391 * Open Mouth.  Insert Foot.  Echo
 > Internationally.

Thanks for the prices....I've now decided to wait until I can check out the
MS Encarta.


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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 276
  To: BRIAN KECK                               Date: 06/03/93 12:02p
Subj: Sony CD-ROM drive                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BK> SP> I'm selling a Sony CD-ROM with 380ms and 150k/sec transfer.This
 BK> includes al
 BK> >needed cables.I'll throw in LOOM too.I want $185(this includes Loom).


 BK> What MODEL number?? and int or ext???
 BK> Brian


 BK>  * QMPro 1.02 41-6221 * ######### <- Scratch Here For Your
 BK> Instant Tagline Priz


 BK> --- WM v2.09/91-0246
 BK>  * Origin: BOGGY CREEK COMPUTER GRAPHICS, 407-348-2006(BBS)
 BK> (1:3633/2)
 BK> 116/2000 
        
   It is internal and it is a CDU535.
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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 277
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 06/03/93 12:03p
Subj: Sony CD-ROM drive                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DD> Recently you advertised:

 DD> SP>  I'm selling a Sony CD-ROM with 380ms and 150k/sec 
 DD> SP> transfer.This includes all needed cables.I'll throw in 
 DD> SP> LOOM too.I want $185(this includes Loom).
 DD> SP> --- FMail 0.94

 DD> What model drive is this? If it's the CDU-7205, then I am
 DD> interested. BTW, what is LOOM?

 DD> Don

 DD> --- Maximus 2.01wb
 DD>  * Origin: Twilight Zone BBS - Ft. McMurray, AB
 DD> (403)743-1260 (1:3402/15)
        
   It is a CDU535 and Loom is a cool MPC game.
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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 278
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/03/93 12:04p
Subj: Sony CD-ROM drive                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TW> SP> I'm selling a Sony CD-ROM with 380ms and 150k/sec transfer.This
 TW> includes al
 TW> SP>needed cables.I'll throw in LOOM too.I want $185(this includes Loom).

 TW> What model? Scsi? Internal/external?

 TW>  * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Microbiology Lab:  Staph Only!


 TW> --- WM v2.09/91-0241
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 TW> (1:369/14)
        
   It is a CDU535 and it is not SCSI.It is internal.
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From: KAWAI WONG                             Number: 279
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/03/93  1:02p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM CATALOGS                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Jim,
      Can you put me on your CD-ROM mailing list?
      My address is:   
                       Kawai Wong
                       305 Slayton Drive
                       Madison, TN 37115

... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
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From: JOHN DECARLO                           Number: 280
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 06/03/93  6:42a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On <May 31 22:20>, Ryan Denke (1:303/5.104) wrote:

 RD >In a message of <30 May 93  18:47:55>, John DeCarlo (1:109/131) 
 RD >writes:
 >>I have FAO I and am tired of it.  Interested in trading?
 RD >If he isn't, I'm tired of Giffy Gold, wanna trade?

Yup.

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From: LESTER CHEVEALLIER                     Number: 281
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/03/93  2:48p
Subj: Special                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested in the Asian Ladies CD.  Tell me more about it.

                             Les


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From: ANDREW MURPHY                          Number: 282
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/93  9:30p
Subj: FAO Gold                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi,
   Well, like most people, I hate to admit I am not perfect, but... It
so happens I am not.  A while back I entered a few messages warning
people away from the FAO gold disk.  Well, this was based on my pouring
over the disk with Cshow not properly configured.  Somwhere back there I
lost some files, and reinstalled and...  The bottom line is, I
recently pulled it out to show someone who said it sounded good what it
was like. (I have long since fixed the Cshow problem, but never
connected it with my disk scanning) Well, I was happily suprised to
find that it was much better than I thought. I feel kind of silly
admitting this, but I may have shied a few of you away from a good disk
because of my own stupidity. If any of you were considering getting it,
do it. It is a good disk with NO BBS Adds. The images are very sharp
for the most part. I wish I had known. Of course it was a nice suprise,
almost like finding a brand new disk! It has moved the FAO disk up
alongside the other profit press disks quality wise.  I am very pleased
with all of them.

To the people at profit press, I am sorry to have influenced anyone into
thinking it wasn't a top notch disk.

Murf!


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From: WAYNE STRICKLAND                       Number: 283
  To: DENNY VANDEMAELE                         Date: 06/03/93  1:04a
Subj: Re: MSCDEX PROBLEM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Go in to either your autoexec/config file and change your MSCDEX and
exchange the sbpro\drv to DOS\MSCDEX and safe and then reboot.
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From: BEN BYRD                               Number: 284
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/93  9:54p
Subj: Catalogs                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I need catalogs.  If you have a catalog I repsent a big amount of
money(Not Mine).  But I do help make decisions for this place and if you
want to be involded in these choises.  Please send me your catalog.

Ben Byrd
17116 26th Ave. S.E.
Bothell, Wa. 98012-6508

Thanks Ben Byrd.

 * SLMR 2.1a * Nanosecond, used to measure a womans attention span.


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 285
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/02/93  8:06p
Subj: ASIAN LADIES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Terry!

Monday May 31 1993, Terry Woodward writes to Dave Reed:


 DR>> Call Ismail Arslangiray of GroupWare... he's in pretty tight with the
 DR>> publis of Asian Ladies.  He knows EXACTLY who they are and where
they're
 DR>> at.  Ismai number is (800) 373-0628 or (206) 472-1400.

 TW> Thanks, Dave. I have to decide if I want to go to all of the time,
 TW> trouble, and expense to get lawyers involved. Several of the gifs that
 TW> they used are my scans from my (copyrighted) photos.

I would encourage you to pursue whatever legal remedy you can... they are an
UNethical bunch who are ruining this industry.  They are one of the BIG
reasons that I no longer sell adult titles.  I prefer to stick with reputable
publishers who don't screw their dealers.  ;-)


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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 286
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/93  7:48a
Subj: Super CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Super CD is one of the best collection of Shareware, Public Domain and
Freeware prgrams and files. You can directly order from us or you can request
from your dealers.
 
Super CD Vol. I $25
Super CD Vol II $25
Set $40
 
Competative Upgrade: If you have any other shareware disk you get $10
discount.
 
VISA/MC/American Express/Discover/COD/Check/MO
 
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX

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From: FRANK SERENO                           Number: 287
  To: ALL DEALERS!!!                           Date: 06/01/93  6:24p
Subj: Want catalogs!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

This is an open note to all of the folk that sell CD-roms that I am very
interested in receiving your catalogs and mailings, including listing of 
adult CD's.  Rather than posting this to several different people, I hope
that all of you will read my message and note my address:

                        Frank Sereno
                        528 West Avenue
                        Morris, Il 60450-1768

Thank you!  :-)

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From: ANDREW HART                            Number: 288
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/02/93  8:29p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send a copy of your catalogue to

        Andrew Hart,
        28, Chimo Drive,
        Kanata,
        Ontario,
        Canada,        K2L 1A5.

Thanks

Al

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From: JIM CLEMENTS                           Number: 289
  To: CHARLES HELD                             Date: 06/02/93  5:25a
Subj: Oxford english dictionary               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CH>JC>JH>I'm looking for the Oxford English Dictionary. Does anyone know who
CH>JC>JH>has the best price? The suggested retail price for the two-disk set
CH>JC>JH>$895.

CH>JC>The OED II at about $895 U.S. is one disc. There was an earlier two-di
CH>JC>DOS version (only the original OED, none of them OED II updates). If y
CH>JC>are going to spend that kind of money, make sure you are getting the O
CH>JC>II. Cheers!

CH>It is expensive at $895, but the CD is about 1/3 the cost of the bound
versi
CH>(and a whole lot easier to search!)  Of course, if word origins and
language
CH>history are your thing, the OED is IT.  But don't drop $895 on it if you
jus
CH>want to have "the biggest dictionary on your block".

Thanks, Charles. I agree. I was fortunate enough to "play" with a review
copy for about a month. Cheers!
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From: JEAN-GUY PARE                          Number: 290
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/02/93  9:28a
Subj: Re: NEW GAMES DISK                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Allo Boris,
->
-> I don't think so Jean !! We jsut installed 2 more new modems ( ZyXel's )
and
-> we had a few bugs to work out. I think everything is OK now, since much of
-> the system seems to be running just fine now.

    I'll try again when I receive my new CD,

           Jean-Guy
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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 291
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 06/03/93  2:23p
Subj: Shareware studio vol. 2                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry, but i am a wise shopper.
The guys name is: Gary Glueckert
And i think that he is in this echo (you know, you should look around before
you make a high price). He is repersenting (or thats what it says in the
message):
                    Timely Ventures
                    516-420-2680
                    or
                    516-277-3853
If you want to, you may refer to MSS# 15485 (i have the message right in
front of me) BTW- can you give me your better price? P.S. do you have a
catalog you could send me (i'm going to open a bbs soon and i'm looking for
cd-roms, ShareWare CDs.. ect.) If so, please send it to: Paul Janel 280
curtis road Hilton NY 14468 Thank you!


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 292
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 06/03/93  2:40p
Subj: 7th guest trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi, what is 7TH Guest?
Is it a shareWare cd?
Thank in advance!


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From: DONALD JONES                           Number: 293
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/03/93 11:16a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        I would like to get a catalog.  My address is:

                407 Porter Dr
                Roseville, CA 95678

                        Thanx,
                        Donald Jones


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From: RON RICHMOND                           Number: 294
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/03/93 12:18a
Subj: Cd rom drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Boris, I want to say thanks for the CD Rom drive. It arrived in good shape
8 days after I ordered. Not bad for U.S.A. and Canada Post offices. I was
very impressed with the way Texel ( & you) packaged everything to protect
it.I'm listening to a Neal Young CD on the drive, as I type this. How much
would it cost for the cable to connect the back of the CD Rom drive to my
Sound Blaster Pro card ? That is the only thing I missed with the kit.The CD
Rom drive was pretty much Plug and play. The sound card had a lot of
conflicts with my system. Works now though.   Thanks,       Ron.
===
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From: ED BAILEY                              Number: 295
  To: CLIFF ESHOM                              Date: 06/02/93  8:15a
Subj: Mitsumi's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CE=> what to buy without actually testing them first.
 CE=> Will trade PC-Sig 10 for what have you....???
Thanks for the offer of the trade but I have enough of the older files on
CD's.
Ed


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From: NILL TOULME                            Number: 296
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/02/93  8:44a
Subj: Re: CD SYSTEMS SPECIAL                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Quoting Boris Osadciw's message of 06-01-93 to All, in pertinent part:

 BO> Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $14.0
                               ^^^^^^^^^^

Is that really v1?  I think the current version is 1.5.        


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 297
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 06/03/93  1:05p
Subj: 4 EXTERNAL CD DRIVES $600               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 4 used Hitachi  internal  3500  drives  with  an  external  case,
  controller  card,  cables,  caddies,  screws,  drivers,  30   day
  warranty,  INCLUDING shipping in the US via  US  mail  AND  c.o.d
  charges   ...   ONLY     $600    total.      Call    205-824-2552
  
  Power supplies are available for $25,
  External cable is available for $30,
  2 nd day shipping is available for $25.
  Cream  of  the  Crop  Shareware  with  this   package   for   $25
  ...and/or other popular cd titles.
  
  This special  ends  July  1st  or  whenever  supplies  are  gone.
 
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 298
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 06/03/93  8:26p
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 [overheard]
  
 MW> >Wait a moment.  130
 MW> >                x 4
 MW> >                ---
 MW> >                520
 MW> >                +60
 MW> >                ---
 MW> >                580
 MW> >
 MW> >And YOU are selling them  for  $600?    Such  a  deal!  <Sigh!>
 MW> You think the case/power supply and cables are  free??  I  would
 MW> love to have and  external case/power supply and cable  set  for
 MW> $20, it is a good deal.
  
  If you can find a better deal then buy it.  You are overlooking a
  few things...  first, a cable 3 1/2  foot  long  would  cost  you
  about $20 to make yourself, second what is  the  best  price  you
  have seen on a 4 bay external case?   ...I  know  they  can't  be
  found for under $40.  Third, what do you think is  the  shipping/
  cod cost of such a package?   Even 4 th class mail  runs  between
  $20 and $30 depending on the distance.  I also include 4 Y  power
  splitters   that   go   for   about   $3   from   most   sources.
  
  Now let's include those overlooked expenses:
  
  580   is where you stopped
  
  $40   4  bay  case             (excluding   shipping   and   cod)
  $25  Shipping and cod  (averaged out)
  $20  3 ft cable with 4  connectors    (excluding 1  hr  to  make)
  $10  Y power splitters (rounded off)
  
  Total :  $675
  
  Looks like a $75 discount from my chair. :)   See...  I'm a  nice
  guy after all!
  
  I can't include a custom made external cable that cost me $30  to
  make, and a $25 power supply for  $20  on  top  of  that  already
  discounted deal... and still make a profit. I  know  that  it  is
  possible to get all the business a person would want  by  selling
  dollar bills for 90 cents...  however  let's  remember  the  idea
  behind doing business is to make a profit.
 
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 299
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 06/03/93  8:48p
Subj: Hitachi CDROM drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


JP> Hi all!  I need to  know  if  rumors  I  have  heard  are  true.
 JP>
 JP> 1) 1 Hitachi CDROM  proprietary  controller  handles  4  Hitachi
 JP> Drives
 JP> 2) You can have 4 Hitachi controllers in the same machine giving
 JP> you 16 CDROM drives.......
  
  Actually, the TDC-IF8 cd rom proprietary  controller  cards  will
  handle 8 Hitachi drives each provided the model is 3600 or  3700,
  and you can put 8 of these cards  into a  machine  (provided  you
  have enough slots  <G>)   making a  total  of  64  cdrom  drives.
  
  
  People like Chuck Beezeele are running 20 on a server,  and  Tony
  Davis has 16 in his system.
 
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 300
  To: KURT ANNO                                Date: 06/03/93  8:54p
Subj: Used CD-Rom                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


KA> I am looking for  a  good  used  CD-Rom  or  a  cheap  new  one.
  
  I have a few used Hitachi internal 3500 drives for $130  and  new
  interface cards for $60.  Shipping and c.o.d. are $15 via US mail
  or $20 for second day FedX.  Call 205-824-2552 and get the latest
  and greatest "Cream of the Crop" shareware cd with  it  for  only
  $20.
 
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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 301
  To: KURT ANNO                                Date: 06/04/93 10:47a
Subj: Used CD-Rom                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to All, Kurt Anno said:
 KA> I am looking for a good used CD-Rom or a cheap new one.

 KA> Kurt Anno


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  I'm selling my Sony CDU535.It has 380ms and 150k/sec.I have all the needed
cables and drivers.It also comes with LOOM.My price is $185 obo.Trades will
be considered.
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From: WALT LANE                              Number: 302
  To: CRAIG MOSER                              Date: 06/03/93  9:22p
Subj: MAC CDROM                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CM=>WL> Walt Lane - Sysop: The File Shop BBS

CM=>Hey Walt....thought I saw your name here! The ISO Mac CD is
CM=>coming along! WIll keep you and all interested here abreast
CM=>of its availability!

CM=>Craig :)

CM=>--- Tabby 3.0
CM=> * Origin: South Florida's Mac Connection - (305) 572-4287
CM=>(1:369/114)
 
Hey, whats up guy?  Yes, this is much better than me calling you at work! 
<grin>
 
Anyway, do you think you all will be able to make it to ONE BBS Con?
 
I will be manning the Remote Access Profession booth.
 
Hope to see you there!
 
Walt Lane - Sysop: The File Shop BBS

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From: DANG NGUYEN                            Number: 303
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/02/93  7:46a
Subj: Cd-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer
  >Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address, and we'd be
  >glad to get one right out to you.  Thanks!

JL>                                                        Jim...
  >Computer Works
  >CD-Rom Sales!
  >(205) 793-4481 Voice
  >(205) 671-0092 BBS

I would like a catalog

Dang
12851 Sungrove
Garden Grove
CA 92640
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From: NANCY PORTER                           Number: 304
  To: ROGER COLLINS                            Date: 06/03/93  8:51a
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RC> Of course, you *can* get the Pioneer unit for just a little more, which 
RC> is a *better* deal, if you need 6 drives.                               
 
Yes, I would tend to agree! <g> 
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From: NANCY PORTER                           Number: 305
  To: LAWRENCE MINTZ                           Date: 06/03/93  8:52a
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LM> You obviously overlooked the fact that the $130 price is for bare 
LM> drives while the $600 price is for 4 drives, CASE and controller.       
LM> Where does the price of the cabinet and cables appear in YOUR little    
LM> calculation.                                                            
 
You're right, I guess I did overlook the case part.  The controller 
card was included in my calculation! <g> 
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From: TOM PAULK                              Number: 306
  To: PIERRE PROULX                            Date: 06/03/93  9:58p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like to get a copy of your CD-ROM catalogue.  Am interested in
adult titles also.
Send to:
Tom Paulk
2359 Millbrae Dr.
Henderson, NV 89014

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From: JIM CLEMENTS                           Number: 307
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 06/02/93  2:22p
Subj: OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BT>hello jim,  are you the same jim clements on the Tampa Bay area local
BT>cable access shows????? if so call me at 813-934-3307 this is the bbs
BT>number in tampa...  i have a friend of yours that is on this bbs..
BT>give us a call ok?  see ya


Sorry, Bubba, not the same Jim Clements. The only thing I've done in the
Tampa area was get run over by a car -- and stay in the Hillsborough
University-Community Hospital for a month. All I can say about that is
it got me out of buying Christmas presents in 1988.

If you ever do come across the "other" Jim Clements, please say hello
for me. Cheers!
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From: DOUG BURDEN                            Number: 308
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/93  8:10a
Subj: ADULT TITLES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am planning on getting some more adult titles. I liked Physical
Therapy but I am a bit let down by private pictures. Could I get users
or dealers opinions on these title please.

Storm series
PC Pix
Porkware
Hot news
Bangkok
Erotic cafe
Moving fantasies
the women of venus
Erotic encounters
Smutware

Last but not least, what is Rimfire Pacific?

This may or may not belong in this eho but I posted here as this seems
to be where the most knowledge about CD's is.

Thanks
Doug Burden
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 309
  To: CD-ROM MANUFACTURERS                     Date: 06/03/93  5:36p
Subj: HANDY UTILITIES                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For folks who were wondering where to get these:

(1) SORTDESC v 2.3 - create file listings based on FILE_ID.DIZ within
archives and captured text files, then SORT the files into directories
based on that description. Many options, including ensuring the file
names comply to the ISO9660 standards.

(2) GCD v 1.0 - an economical and simple interface for your CD-ROM.
Works with *ANY* format ASCII file lists, including Wildcat, RA, and
PCBoard style listings. Your file listings will be scrollable,
with tagging, copying and viewing options.

Contact:  Vince Sorensen @ 306-789-4654 Voice or 306-789-8682 BBS.
                                                 306-359-3335 FAX.
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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 310
  To: PAUL O'SULLIVAN                          Date: 06/03/93  1:29p
Subj: CD-ROMS FROM WITHIN I                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Paul:

In a msg of <Friday May 28 1993>, Paul O'sullivan writes to BOB JACKSON:

 BJ>> Since a standard audio CD can only hold about 60-65 minutes of music,

 PO> Actually 74 minutes.

     Are you sure?  I just picked up the Jethro Tull 25th Anniversary Boxed
set, and I would swear one of the disks is in the high side of the seventies.

     Yep.  Just slipped disk four in and it's 77:45.  I think I have a few
others of similar length, as well.




Tyler A. Wunder

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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 311
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/03/93 12:56p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Jim:

In a msg of <Monday May 31 1993>, Jim Lambert writes to All:

 JL> Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer
 JL> Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address, and we'd be
 JL> glad to get one right out to you.  Thanks!

     Not sure if I've sent you a request, but here's another one for good
measure.

     Tyler Wunder
     28 Huntingdale Pl.
     Kitchener, ON
     N2A 3K6

     Thanks.



Tyler A. Wunder

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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 312
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 06/03/93 12:57p
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Dave:

In a msg of <Monday May 31 1993>, Dave Reed writes to All:

 DR>  Bibles & Religion ........... 12.00

     Hi Dave.  This one looks interesting.  What more can you tell me about
it?




Tyler A. Wunder

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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 313
  To: CHARLES HELD                             Date: 06/03/93 12:59p
Subj: Oxford english dictionary               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Charles:

In a msg of <Sunday May 30 1993>, Charles Held writes to Jim Clements:

 CH> It is expensive at $895, but the CD is about 1/3 the cost of the bound
 CH> version (and a whole lot easier to search!)

     Only partially true.  While the cd rom version is no doubt easier to
use, I paid $250 American for a Compact (note:  compact is not abridged, and
does in fact have all the information of the twenty volume set -- I simply
need a reading glass to read the text, but for a savings of $600, I'll put up
with a small inconvenience) OED.

     Of course, $895 is better than buying the 20 volume set, but the compact
version still beats the hell out of the cd.




Tyler A. Wunder

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 314
  To: BRIAN HIPPS                              Date: 06/03/93 12:07p
Subj: Cd' for kids - cfk's                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BH> babysitting my 2nd and 4th graders at home. I need some educatio  
 BH> to keep their little minds occupied till August 30. Any suggesti  
                                                                       
  
I highly recommend Mixed Up Mother Goose for this age group. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 315
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/03/93 12:10p
Subj:  Florida Lion's Den In                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> Got them, Thanks a million--Busty Babes is going backon the mark  
 LN> July as an "R" rated disk--Major facelift ! They will be on ther  
                                                                       
  
Lee - could 'ya gimme a call (713) 488-0065 or somehow get me your voice 
phone number? If you use netmail, the sysop here will forward. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 316
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/03/93 12:14p
Subj:  I am looking...                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> Encyclopedia of ClipArt--Ask an dealer in the echo. Its all PCX   
 LN> garbage--Mnaual for this will be released in the summer that giv  
 LN> pictures of all the 11,000 clips.                                 
                                                                       
  
Lee - is this your CD? 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 317
  To: TIMOTHY C. NOVAK                         Date: 06/03/93 12:02p
Subj:  Mitsumi drive audio                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TC> connect my Cd's outputs to the Sound Blaster's inputs and I didn  
 TC> anything out of it.  Is there something "special" that I missed?  
                                                                       
  
Dunno- I'm not a "sound board" person. Perhaps one of the echo's SB 
aficionados can help here. 
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 318
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 06/03/93  7:01p
Subj: Re: I am looking...                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I am looking for a cdrom that has clipart that I could use
>>    with my word processors and dtp programs


>>    sincerely

Vito, we have several of them as well as the NEW "Encyc Of Clipart", which
is a bbs ready cd. If your interested, please feel free to give us a call
at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 319
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/04/93  1:51a
Subj: Special                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Monster Disk - $35.  Shareware Extravag - $45.   CD PowerBox      - $20.
Pier 1       - $29.  SoundWaV           - $25.   Shareware Online - $29.
Asian Ladies - $35.  Adult Ref Library  - $35.   All ChestNuts    - $14.
Hobbs OS/2   - $25.  Windows 1993       - $25.   Night Owl 8      - $29.
Groilers Ency DOS / Windows Version - $50.00ec   Night Owl 7      - $19.
Gameware     - $30.  Canadian Shareware - $15.   IBM Sampler      - $ 7.
  Mitsumi Int (350ms) - $195. Nec36M - Complete Ext SCSI System $269.
        Pioneer DM600 - Bare Drive - $799.     DM604X - $1199.
 ORDERS ONLY - 800-243-0517 For Tech or Product Info Call - 216-225-3263
      (((((((((((   Call Us - You'll Be Glad You Did   ))))))))))))))


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 320
  To: GARY FRICKE                              Date: 06/04/93  1:51a
Subj: Re: CD Systems                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Boris a couple friends of mine are interested in cd-roms disks
>>    and hardware... They would like catalouges...
>>    Greg Meeker

>>    Mike Mullikin

Our new catalogue and special discounted flyer should be available soon.

We'll make sure your friends get a copy as well as yourself.

Thank You....

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't Read Mail Without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 321
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/04/93  1:52a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

********* E N C Y C L O P E D I A   O F  C L I P A R T *********
  500+ Megs Pf Pure DTP Power - BBS Ready - Over 11,000 Files
    NO DUPS - Over 30 MEGS Color Art - Plus True Type Fonts
                     Most Files - 92' - 93'
                        Price - $29.00

     This should be the HOTTEST Clipart CD of the year !!
Call 800-243-0517 or for technical information call 216-225-3263
anytime 23.5hrs a day 7 days a week and we'll be glad to assist you.

Boris Osadciw

... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: BOB WYATT                              Number: 322
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/03/93  9:21p
Subj: CD Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Would appreciate your latest catalog.
Forward to Bob Wyatt, 114 Whispering Pines Drive,Waveland,MS 39576

          

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From: CHRIS BARRETT                          Number: 323
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 06/02/93 10:37a
Subj: CD-ROMs WANTED!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Would a Pilips CM-100 for $150, including shipping in original box
 > work for you--includes card and cable.  Less than one year of use--
 > spend most of its life in storage as excess equipment.  Call me at
 > 719-495-0495, if interested.

    No thank you, but thanks for the offer!

                                            Chris

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From: CHRIS BARRETT                          Number: 324
  To: STEVE LEU                                Date: 06/02/93 10:41a
Subj: CD-ROMs WANTED!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Chris, I have 4 Hitachi drives that run off of one controller, so
 > they are single propriety.  They do, however, have caddies.  (it really
 > speeds up the drives!)  I am willing to sell them for along with a
 > 4-bay case for $650 + shipping.  Let me know.

    What is the access times?
    Do you have any CDs you can throw in with them (prefer something for the
BBS)?
    Total cost with S&H to Canada?

    Right now, I am swaying more to the Pioneer, as I can get them with a
total of 6 drives (you know what I mean) for $799.99 US + Interface card.

                                                        Chris

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From: ROBERT RAWLINGS                        Number: 325
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/01/93 10:28a
Subj: CD-ROM Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jim...Please add my system to your mailing list...Thanks.

Bud's Hell Hole
10515 Midvale Ave North #6
Seattle, WA 98133

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From: DAN WAGNER                             Number: 326
  To: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                        Date: 06/01/93  3:08p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST.                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Jerry,
I saw your message asking for help in the 7th guest. Since your near the
end I think you can help my friend, he says hes stuck by a secret room
before the microscope puzzle and he has to solve some puzzles with
stones in the floor (I hope thats descriptive enough), also he cant
figure out the microscope puzzle with the viruses. Can you help?

Regards
Dan Wagner
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From: GREGORY YERXA                          Number: 327
  To: BRIAN PUNTNEY                            Date: 06/02/93 10:44p
Subj: CDs                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    Sure sounds like I might me interested give me a call at
(414)-735-9315 or give me your number and I will call you.

GReg


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From: GREGORY YERXA                          Number: 328
  To: SCOTT ELMORE                             Date: 06/02/93 10:45p
Subj: Cds                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    What is the Phoenix one?


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 329
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/04/93 10:36a
Subj: CD-ROM Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


Toshiba XM-3201 Series SCSI CD-ROMS Drives.

External Unit:

Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
power supply and cable.  Include two Centronics 50 connectors mounted to
rear of the enclosure for I/O and passthru cabling.  Easy access to SCSI
ID Switches.  True SCSI. 350ms Access. 150k transfer rate. External 
headphone jack and volume control.  Powersupply accepts 90-240 Volts AC.

$225.00

Internal Unit:

Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM bare drive.  DIP Switches for SCSI ID Setting.
True SCSI, 350ms Access, 150k transfer rate.  External headphone jack and
volume control.

$200.00

60 day defect warranty included.


205-837-5053
leave message if not home, it WILL be returned.

Michael Konor
AMIGA_CDROM Co.Moderator




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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 330
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/03/93  4:52p
Subj: Then, could you send me s               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@SUBJECT:Then, could you send me some BBS stuff?                     N Hi!
its me, could you send me some BBS stuff catalogs (like ShareWare CDs)?


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From: JIM OXFORD                             Number: 331
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 06/04/93 11:45a
Subj: Re: Hitachi CDROM drive                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Hi all!  I need to know if rumors I have heard are true.
 > 
 > 1) 1 Hitachi CDROM proprietary controller 
 > handles 4 Hitachi Drives
 > 
   That is true, some controlers will handle 8 drives, but you have to
have the drives that will let you select 8 of them. 


 > 2) You can have 4 Hitachi controllers in the 
 > same machine giving you 16
 > CDROM drives.......
 > 
   That is also true, I have run 4 banks of 4 Hitachi 3500's in one
computer. 
   I currently run 6 Hitachi's and 2 Pioneer 6 paks, making a total of 18
cdroms in one machine.

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From: VERNON MELTON                          Number: 332
  To: BRANDAN UPSON                            Date: 06/03/93 11:51a
Subj: Re: cd's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                    -=> Quoting Brandan Upson to All <=-

 BU> Ultima VI and Wing commander $25.00   Both on same CD.
Brandan,
    I will offer one Languages of the World CD in trade for the Wing
Commander CD-ROM.  It has dictionary's and can translate the following
languages:
          English
          French
          German
          Italian
          Spanish
          Dutch
          Japanese (Both major versions of Japanese with pictures
                   of the correct character)
          Chinese  (I think it's Mandarin with pictures of the
                   correct character)
          Norwegian
          Danish
          Finnish
          Swedish                                     (146 k)
It can be used as a stand alone reference or run as a large TSR with your
favorite editor.  I am proposing a even trade.  Thank you.
Later,
      Vernon Melton

... The Earth is 98% full.  Please DELETE anyone you can.
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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 333
  To: BRANDAN UPSON                            Date: 06/03/93  7:58a
Subj: cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I have the following CD's for sale.


 >         Mega CD-Rom 1                $15.00    650+meg
 > shareware.
 >                                                Includes door
 > program to
 >                                                run it with.

 >         Ultima VI and Wing commander $25.00   Both on same CD.

 >         Great Cities of the World part II.  $25.00

Interested in trading the Mega CD-Rom 1 for Pheonix 2?

Chris

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 334
  To: KURT ANNO                                Date: 06/03/93  7:59a
Subj: Used CD-Rom                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I am looking for a good used CD-Rom or a cheap new one.

I have Pheonix 2 or O'Conner & Associates Shareware available for $15 each +
postage.

Chris

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From: DAVID GEVING                           Number: 335
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/04/93  9:30a
Subj: Catalog Request                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Jim,

Please send be your catalog(s).  My address is:

David Geving
311 Vista Del Escuela
El Cajon, CA 92019

Thanks!

PS - No response needed.
 
... With a Blue Wave of my hand I cleared away the SLMR!
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 336
  To: BRIAN HIPPS                              Date: 06/03/93  8:02p
Subj: Re: Cd' for kids - cfk's                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Help me please!! It's summer break from school again and I'll be
> babysitting my 2nd and 4th graders at home. I need some educational cd's
> to keep their little minds occupied till August 30. Any suggestions on
> what I should get? They seem to bore easily if it's percieved as
Arthur's Teacher Trouble
Beauty and Beast
Peter & Wolf
Mario is missing
 
We have all in stock and they are good titles for kids. TTYL 

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 337
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 06/03/93  7:19p
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Kirk!

Wednesday June 02 1993, Kirk Rawnsley writes to Dave Reed:

 KR>    Bibles & Religion ........... 12.00

Sold out.  Sorry.

 KR>    Reference Library ........... 24.00

Dictionary of Quotable Definitions
Webster's New World Dictionary
Guide to Concise Writing
The New York Public Library Desk Reference
Dictionary of 20th Century History
Webster's New World Thesaurus
The National Directory (Businesses)
JK Lasser's Legal and Corporation Forms for the Small Business

 KR>    Source CD-ROM ............... 17.00

Source code for C, Pascal, Basic, etc.

 KR> Care to list exactly what is on these titles?

See above.   ;-)

Dave Reed
CD-ROM International
(800) 678-2374

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From: DON HOWE                               Number: 338
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/04/93 11:07a
Subj: CD-ROM Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jim:
 
I am interested in receiving your catalog....
 
My address is Don Howe
              2268 Nelson Drive
              Niskayuna, NY 12309
 
Thank you very much!
 
Don

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From: JOSEPH MACK                            Number: 339
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/04/93  1:29p
Subj: CD ROM CATALOGS WANTED                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WANTED: CD ROM catalogs. As a reseller of multimedia machines, we get a
tremendous call for varied titles of CD's, and naturally are always looking
for the best prices. Anything goes on CD, from Educational (Mixed Up Mother
Goose) to The Smuttiest Adult CD's around.
Please send your catalogs ASAP to:
Computer Services of New York
133 So. Brandywine Ave. Suite #8
Schenectady, NY 12307
Please mark them attn: Joseph Mack
Thanks for your consideration.
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From: RANDY JOHNSON                          Number: 340
  To: JOE VENTURELLI                           Date: 06/03/93  9:02p
Subj: Seedy Rom Volume 6 DIR's                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Joe, by talking about the Seedy Rom movie disk, I assume that you
are also the publisher of the Seedy Rom 6-pack. I was just testing a
cd-rom catalog program (CDPRO), and noticed that disc 6 had two
directories in the DIRS directory that weren't on the disk. They were
TARGA and BMP_PCX.  Was this an error?

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 341
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/04/93  4:57p
Subj: Message                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike:

Thanks for the phone conversation the other day re: Porkware. I never did
get the message you said you sent. On the other hand, I read this echo from
two different BBSes and they never seem to have exactly the same new
messages in them, so maybe your message went into some electronic gazooland.
Gimme a shout if you ever recover to the point where we can proceed. Cheers!

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 342
  To: DOUG BURDEN                              Date: 06/04/93 12:28p
Subj: ADULT TITLES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DB> Storm series                                                      
 DB> PC Pix                                                            
 DB> Porkware                                                          
 DB> Hot news                                                          
 DB> Bangkok                                                           
 DB> Erotic cafe                                                       
 DB> Moving fantasies                                                  
 DB> the women of venus                                                
 DB> Erotic encounters                                                 
 DB> Smutware                                                          
                                                                       
  
Personal opinion of a collector with 30+ titles: 
  
Storm III is the best of that series 
PC Pix series is pretty good but becoming dated 
Porkware is rumored to be a re-hash of images from other CDs 
Hot News/Bangkok/Erotic Cafe - no data 
Moving Fantasies is so-so 
Women of Venus isn't "adult" at all 
Erotic Encounters is fair/good 
Smutware - no data 
  
You left out the Seedy ROM series, the FAO series, and the Hot Pix 
series. All are superior to those you listed, IMHO, but in varying 
degrees. 
  
If you're looking for just 1 or 2 more, Busty Babes and Ecstasy are 
*HIGHLY* recommended. 
  
Hope this helps. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 343
  To: ANDREW MURPHY                            Date: 06/04/93 12:36p
Subj: FAO Gold                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 AM> To the people at profit press, I am sorry to have influenced any  
 AM> thinking it wasn't a top notch disk.                              
 AM>                                                                   
 AM> Murf!                                                             
                                                                       
  
Kudos to you, Murf, for 'fessin up! I like FAO Gold, too. Now if we 
could just get everyone else in the adult CD biz to be as forthright.... 
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From: ROBERT DU GAUE                         Number: 344
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 06/03/93  8:57a
Subj: RE: CD-Rom Changer ?                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 KP>Can anyone tell me where I can get a CD-Rom Changer ?  I think thats 
 KP>basically what they are, You can place about 6-8 CD's in it, and access
 KP>them all at any given time ??  Any help would be helpful, I seen One at a
 KP>HamFest in Indy, and would like to find another.

I got a Pioneer 6-disk DRM-600 from Dirt Cheap Drives in Computer
Shopper for $829.

It's the slower model, but for a BBS I don't think it makes a big
difference, since the software (which I wrote) uses HD catalogs and
stages all xfers to an HD/RAM parition.

The 604x model is very fast, and runs around $1100-$1200. Pioneer
is also coming out with a model inbetween the 600 and 604 that
does 350k xfers per sec, more inline with regular CDs.  They
also have an 18 disk version in the works, that will be around $2500
or so.


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From: CAMERON SLYE                           Number: 345
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 06/03/93  5:15p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 MB> I have Physical Therapy, volume 3, an almost exact duplicate of XXX
 MB> Extreme that I would trade for the above.  I  bought this one at
 MB> comdex, and did not realize it duplicated extreme, so it is in perfect
 MB> condition.  Interested? 
If you were to seel it, how much?

... You don't buy beer. You rent it for a while.
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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 346
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 06/03/93  7:03a
Subj: ADD SIZE                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Yes Patrick, your adds come across readable now..

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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 347
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 06/04/93  2:59p
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Oh, could you get me the same deal?


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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 348
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/93  7:38p
Subj: Catalogs Requested                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    Dealers:
         Please include me on all your lists including adult.  The 
information you need includes:
    Joe Rinehart
    5400 Lakewood Road
    Ravenna, Ohio 44266-9565
    (216) 297-1332 voice
    216) 296-4446 (GIGO) data

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From: STEVE LEU                              Number: 349
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/93  3:28p
Subj: Always Tech IN2000 SCSI C               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*@SUBJECT:Always Tech IN2000 SCSI Controller                          N
For Sale:

1)      Always Techlogy IN-2000 SCSI Controller
        Handles 7 SCSI Devices / 2 Floppy Drives
        Operates under DOS, Novell, OS/2, Unix, Xenix
        Comes complete with all manuals and drivers

                $175 or best offer
              (shipping can be negotiated)


Interested: Call me at (216) 527-2186 or 527-4521
            or e-mail me at steve.leu@wbc.wariat.org (Internet)
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From: JAMES PIPER                            Number: 350
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/93  5:55p
Subj: Multi Media Kits                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

***********************************************************
*  CD ROM Multimedia bundles                              *
*                                                         *
*  1   Mitsumi CD ROM Drive (350 ms - 32KB Buffer)        *
*  1   ATI Stereo FX Sound Card with Mitsumi Controller   *
*  1   Set of KOSS Amplified Speakers                     *
*  1   Standard Bundle                                    *
*      - Multi-media Groliers Encyclopedia                *
*      - US/World Atlas                                   *
*      - Reference Library                                *
***********************************************************
*  Package with Software        $550.00                   *
*                                                         *
*  Package without Software     $425.00                   *
*                                                         *
*  Call and get yours today!                              *
***********************************************************
* Computer Wares, Inc. * P.O. Box #818 * Paris, IL 61944  *
* Ask for James Piper (217) 465-5233 * FAX (217) 463-1094 *
***********************************************************

 * OLX 2.2 * Mail your ideas written on the back of a $20 bill to...
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From: KEITH RITCHIE                          Number: 351
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 06/04/93  9:44p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanx Arnie for the information. The drive itself is labeled April 1993 upon
closer inspection. One thing I did discover that the order of channels and
ground on the Mitsumi is opposite from the SB Pro board.You would figure they
would at least give you a cable with the drive that is SB compatible.
Thanks Again, Keith

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From: KEITH RITCHIE                          Number: 352
  To: TIMOTHY C. NOVAK                         Date: 06/04/93 10:03p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi drive audio                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Tim, You need to cut and resolder the 4 wires at one end of the cable. If you
look in SB manual you will see that the CD IN connector order is
Ground-left-Ground-right channel. The mitsumi's CD out is
Right-Ground-Left-Ground (Reversed). Why Mitsumi did this is beyond reason.
Somebody could probably make a few bucks by selling audio cables with this
configuration since there are so many Mitsumis and SB out there. You know
this is the case if you hook up the cable as-is and try and listen to an
audio CD thru the headphones-NO SOUND. I clipped and resolder mine and it
works like a
champ.
                                       Keith

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From: ANDY YEE                               Number: 353
  To: DANG NGUYEN                              Date: 06/04/93 10:33p
Subj: Cd-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like a catalog


Andy Yee
6305 51st Ponoka
Alberta Canada
T4j 1E4

Thanks

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From: ANDY YEE                               Number: 354
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/04/93 10:37p
Subj: CDROM DISTRIBUTORS WA                   Refer: NONE
Read: 06/06/93  8:14a                       Private: No 

out that adult disk HOw much are you selling it for?

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From: ANDY YEE                               Number: 355
  To: JOHN DECARLO                             Date: 06/04/93 10:37p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

intersted in selling Fao?

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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 356
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/93  4:54a
Subj: Need Catolog                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send me a CD'ROM disk Catolog.
Ken Matthews
5415 Thirds st.
Verona Pa 15147
                   Thanks...

... Glad To Be Here..
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From: LEWIS BULLARD                          Number: 357
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/04/93  2:56p
Subj: FOR SALE                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 

Need to sell my system for fall tuition. PB Legend 920 (486sx), 4meg ram
onboard vga, PB vga monitor, 124 meg IDE Seagate, 2400 baud modem, bus mouse,
Magnovox CDD 461 cd-rom and cd audio player with  set of aiwa speakers with
amps, Logitech 32 grayscale hand scanner with interface card, dual disk
drives,
will include 6 cdrom disks with purchase at asked price of $1300. Great setup
for DTP. Lewis 405-357-5942 in the pm or echo back.

... Double your harddrive space -- delete Windows!!!!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: JIM DELESKIE                           Number: 358
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 06/04/93  5:54a
Subj: CDROM Retailer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GH>Like many people here, I am also a CDROM retailer.

GH>If you would like a catalog of over 400 CDROM titles, including games,
GH>shareware discs, educational items, Art/Desktop publishers, Business,
GH>Military, Health, and Research/Literature.

I would be intrested in recieving your catalog.

Jim DeLeksie
85 Westgrove Place -21
Halifax, N.S.
B3M 3L7
 þ SLMR 2.1a þ I am Homer of Borg. Prepare to be ....oooohh, doughnuts
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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 359
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 06/04/93  8:23a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Patrick:

In a msg of <Tuesday June 01 1993>, Patrick Rosenheim writes to All:

 >> Bible library                                             $26
 >> Bibles & Religion                                         $13

     What can you tell me about these?




Tyler A. Wunder

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From: DANG NGUYEN                            Number: 360
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/04/93  9:38a
Subj: Supplier                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in pressing a CD and was wondering if you could forward
any info any distrubutors and suppliers.  Any information would really
be appreciated.

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From: DANG NGUYEN                            Number: 361
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/04/93  9:43a
Subj: Cd Distrubutors                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If anyone has some names, numbers, addresses of CD distrubutors or
suppliers, the info would be much appreciated...

Thank you
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From: BILL SCHNELL                           Number: 362
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/04/93  9:28p
Subj: Cd-rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Jim!

Think you might send your catalog this way, too?

Bill Schnell
2427 S. Fulton Pl.
Tulsa, OK 74114

Thanks!             Bill

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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 363
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93  9:01a
Subj: calico computers                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

does any one know the phone # of Calico Computers

thanks

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From: JOHN HUGHES                            Number: 364
  To: JIM CLEMENTS                             Date: 06/01/93  8:45p
Subj: Oxford english dictionary               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JC>JH>I'm looking for the Oxford English Dictionary. Does anyone know who
  >JH>has the best price? The suggested retail price for the two-disk set is
  >JH>$895.


JC>The OED II at about $895 U.S. is one disc. There was an earlier two-disc
  >DOS version (only the original OED, none of them OED II updates). If you
  >are going to spend that kind of money, make sure you are getting the OED
  >II. Cheers!


Thanks for your nice reply, but I didn't send the question.  Puzzling ?

===
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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 365
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93  9:38a
Subj: CD-ROM Changer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does Any one have a good price on a Pioneer 604x Changer With The drivers
Like to install on my BBS.

Thanks

Tom Miller
Swamp Thang BBS
540-347-8152
P.o. Box 1089
Marrero, LA 70073

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From: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                       Number: 366
  To: NANCY PORTER                             Date: 06/04/93  1:12p
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Nancy!

In a message to Terry Blount <05/31/93> Nancy Porter wrote:

NP> TB> I am getting a few more used internal Hitachi 3500's.  I will  be 
NP> TB>  offering them for $130 each. Controller cards are $60  that  will   
NP> TB>  run up to 4 of these drives.  4 of these drives are available for   
NP> TB>  $600 with controller card, case and cables  to  connect  to  your   
NP>  
NP> Wait a moment.  130 
NP>                 x 4 
NP>                 --- 
NP>                 520 
NP>                 +60
NP>                 ---
NP>                 580
           ========>+20 SHIPPING
NP>
NP> And YOU are selling them for $600?  Such a deal! <Sigh!>

Before you make fun of somebody's message why not take the time
to read AND UNDERSTAND it first.  It went on to say that for $600
it includes a CASE, and CABLES, and SHIPPING.  I have bought 2 of
these in the past from Terry and I highly recommend Terry Blount
to anybody.

For the sysop looking to provide several or alot of CD's online
these systems cannot be beat.

Now I suppose my message is open to attack, retaliation or
whatever from every person who got out of the wrong side of the
bed this morning.
...Jef...

 * WCE 1.10/2020 * Jim he's dead............Get his wallet then Spock!


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From: GREG GRAY                              Number: 367
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/02/93 11:21p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Jim,
    I'd like to receive a CD-Rom Catalog also if you wouldn't mind.
There are 4 guys at work that recently bought computers with CD
drives in them and they don't know where to buy any. Real Bummer,
eh?!  Anyways they are interested in a wide variety including
Adult, so if you could send it to me, I will see that they get
to see it, Thanxs.

Greg Gray
P.O. Box 8721
Rockford, Ill. 61126-8721


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 368
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/04/93  5:11a
Subj: Re: Adult cd's to swap                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 02 Jun 93  06:36:00, I heard Terry Woodward shout to Kevin Plummer:

KP>  Well I have Volcano (ADULT) and VGA Spectrum for trade, If interested,
Jus
TW> KP>leave me a Note...
TW> 
TW> I'm interested in the Volcano. What's VGA Spectrum?
TW> 

VGA Spectrum is a Shareware disk with a little bit of everything on it, 
Everything from .GIF's, to Utilities...

                        ......|<evin

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From: DAVID PATTERSON                        Number: 369
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/31/93  6:41p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please include me in your CD-ROM catalog mailing.
My address is as follows:

David Patterson
326 - 201 Abasand Dr.
Fort McMurray, AB
Canada
T9H 1L6

Thanks
Dave P.
___
 X SLMR 2.0 X ESPER Computer Systems, Ft.McMurray, AB CAN (403)791-2200

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From: DAVID PATTERSON                        Number: 370
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 05/31/93  6:49p
Subj: CD-ROM New Catalog                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send me a copy of your CD ROM catalog to :

David Patterson
326 - 201 Abasand Dr.
Fort McMurray, AB
Canada
T9H 1L6

Thanks
Dave P.
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From: DAVID PATTERSON                        Number: 371
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/93  6:36p
Subj: Foreign Language CD's                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Need a source for the following CD's (for resale):

-Berlitz Think and Talk in Spanish - Sony
-First Steps in Spanish - Philips
-also interested in above for Greek & French !

I need a wholesale source or dealer discount on these since they are for
a customer.

Thanks

Dave P.
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From: MIKE MAST                              Number: 372
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 06/04/93  9:29a
Subj: Toshiba CD-ROM Drives                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM bare drive.  DIP Switches for SCSI ID
 > Setting.
 > True SCSI, 350ms Access, 150k transfer rate.

 > $200.00

Are these new or used?  Warranty?  Work with Trantor controller?
 
Regards,
Mike
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 373
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 06/03/93 10:29p
Subj: I am looking...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

VS>I am looking for a cdrom that has clipart that I could use with my word 
  >processors and dtp programs 
 
Desktop Publisher's Dream Disc would be a nice choice.  It even comes 
with a manual showing most of the artwork and fonts. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 374
  To: BILL HENDERSON                           Date: 06/03/93 10:41p
Subj: 7th Guest Trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

  >>I have a two week old copy of 7th Guest that I just can't get into...what

  >>do you have to trade? Really like to find Bible Library and Bibles and 
  >>Religion CD-Roms, but will consider all. Leave me a note. 
 
I would be willing to trade brand new copies of Bible Library and Bibles 
& Religion CD's for 7th Guest.  Have you obligated yourself to anyone 
else yet?  If not, give me a call at (205) 793-4481. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JACK BROWN                             Number: 375
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/04/93  2:26p
Subj: Free cd-rom catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JLI am now sending out our new CD-Rom catalog from Computer Works.  Anyone
JLwishing to be added to our mailing list, please leave me a message with
JLyour address.  Specify if you are interested in adult titles.  Thanks!

Please send a catalog, including adult titles, to:  P.O. Box 19825
                                                    Portland OR 97219
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From: JERE WESSELL                           Number: 376
  To: DOUG BURDEN                              Date: 06/05/93  1:09a
Subj: ADULT TITLES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I am planning on getting some more adult titles. I liked Physical
-> Therapy but I am a bit let down by private pictures. Could I get user
-> or dealers opinions on these title please.
->
-> Storm series
-> PC Pix
-> Porkware
-> Hot news
-> Bangkok
-> Erotic cafe
-> Moving fantasies
-> the women of venus
-> Erotic encounters
-> Smutware
->
I have Storm II and was not impressed.  First one i took off line when i
bought some new ones.
PCPIX 2 and 3 are pretty good.  Put together by the Sysops who did the
scans.  We hand picked 110mb each and submitted them for the CD.
Porkware I and II are so-so.  Some duplicates of other disks but pretty
good over all.
Jere Wessell, Sysop Nighthawk Adult Graphics, Las Vegas, NV

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From: JERE WESSELL                           Number: 377
  To: LESTER CHEVEALLIER                       Date: 06/05/93  1:17a
Subj: asian ladies                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I'm interested in the Asian Ladies CD.  Tell me more about it.
->
->                              Les
good overall disk if you like oriental ladies.  Bunch of my older stuff
before i boight the hp scan jet IIc.  Not my best work.  Files.lst are
not quite bbs ready, used xxxk instead of the actual file size and there
was no space for a date colum.  Took a couple of hours to run them thru
SFFiles.exe (used for Spitfire to manage file areas).
there are some mystry files on the disk that have nothing to do with
asian and orientals, (ie blonds and brunettes)
If it cheap by it.
Jere, Sysop Nighthawk Adult Graphics

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From: LEE WINSOR                             Number: 378
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/93  5:54p
Subj: 5 star Premium CD-ROMS                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Our hottest selling CD-ROM collection!  Try the rest, then buy the best!

       ****  FIVE STAR PREMIUM WINDOWS CD-ROM - Volume #1  ****

       -  6,000 Windows 3.x files and programs
       -  Thousands of applications and utilities
       -  Fonts for ATM, Postscript, Truetype
       -  Select Few Icons and Wallpaper bitmaps
       -  Source/tools for Actor, C, C++, Toolbook, Visual Basic,
          TPW and others
       -  Predominantly 1992 - 93 files, with hand picked 90-91 files
          (mostly bitmaps and icons which no one cares what the date is)
       -  **BONUS** 950 additional OS/2 library files!
       -  100% PKZ204G zipped with both PCBOARD directory, and Files.bbs
       -  Multi Line Descriptions Average 3.5 lines per entry
       -  Contains both PCBOARD and Files.bbs for the SYSOP


       ****  FIVE STAR PREMIUM DOS Shareware - Volume #2  ****

       - Over 6300 files and programs
       - Organized into 69 different directories including: Music,
         Business, Hobbies, Personal Finance, Text and Word Processing,
         Ham Radio, Cooking, Health and Fitness, Desktop Publishing,
         Database, Games, & thousands of other applications and utils.
       - Large collection of Source/tools for C, C++, Basic, Pascal
       - All files zipped with PKZ204g
       - Contains both PCBOARD and Files.bbs for the SYSOP
       - Multi line descriptions average 4 lines per entry
       - Fully Virus tested less than 1% duplication or older versions
         of programs.
       - NO WINDOWS FILES, they are all on the Windows disk!

*********************************************************************
          Special OFFER! Buy both CD-ROM's for only $69
*********************************************************************
                Available on FIDONET through:

                      The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 (314) 521-4862  FAX: (314) 521-7453
   VISA          1 - 8 0 0 - 2 8 9 - 1 R O M        MASTERCARD
             100's of other fine titles available.
          Buy A Caddie for $2.99 with any Disk Purchase
                                                                          
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 379
  To: DANG NGUYEN                              Date: 06/06/93  8:17a
Subj: Supplier                                Refer: 3800
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> I am interested in pressing a CD and was wondering if you could forwa
-> any info any distrubutors and suppliers.  Any information would reall
-> be appreciated.

If you want to press a CD, call Larry Boden at Nimbus (1-800-782-0778).
He'll tell you exactly what you need to do...

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 380
  To: JERE WESSELL                             Date: 06/06/93  8:24a
Subj: asian ladies                            Refer: 3817
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> -> I'm interested in the Asian Ladies CD.  Tell me more about it.
-> ->
-> ->                              Les
-> good overall disk if you like oriental ladies.  Bunch of my older stu
-> before i boight the hp scan jet IIc.  Not my best work.  Files.lst ar
-> Jere, Sysop Nighthawk Adult Graphics

Are you the publisher/creator of Asian Ladies?

tim
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From: LEE RICH                               Number: 381
  To: KEVIN GODFREY                            Date: 06/02/93 11:26p
Subj: Address for mailer of cd rom catalog    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HI Kevin

My Address
box 334 
Royal Oak, MI> 48068

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From: FRANK MALCZEWSKI                       Number: 382
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/93  9:20p
Subj: AMIGA XT Bridgeboard                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Everyone,

Amiga 2088 Bridgeboard with 5 1/4 inch drive. Has the V20 chip for almost a
2X speed increase over the original BB, plus the newest Janus 2.1 software
to work with WB 2.04+. Comes with all manuals and MS DOS 3.3 operating
system, plus a memory expansion card (with 128K). $75

********************************************************************

Call 517-636-2724 days 8AM - 5PM (phone mail after 5PM), or
517-631-4038 evenings/weekends until 11:30PM EST for more
information/shipping arrangements, or post message here.
-=-
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From: FRANK MALCZEWSKI                       Number: 383
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/93  9:20p
Subj: AMIGA A-MAXII Mac Emulatr               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Everyone,

A-Max II Macintosh emulator cartridge, Original MAC 128K ROMS, AMAX II
software (including quick load program) and manuals. $165

********************************************************************

Call 517-636-2724 days 8AM - 5PM (phone mail after 5PM), or
517-631-4038 evenings/weekends until 11:30PM EST for more
information/shipping arrangements, or post message here.
-=-
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From: FRANK MALCZEWSKI                       Number: 384
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/93  9:21p
Subj: Macintosh Powerbook 100                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Everyone,

Macintosh Powerbook 100 notebook for sale. 8 meg of memory, 20 Meg HD, inter
9600 baud FAX (Global Village, not the Mac version)/2400 baud modem, two
batteries, charger, Remote Access software, plus all manuals, System 7 softw
original boxes, etc. $1190

********************************************************************

Call 517-636-2724 days 8AM - 5PM (phone mail after 5PM), or
517-631-4038 evenings/weekends until 11:30PM EST for more
information/shipping arrangements, or post message here.
-=-
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From: FRANK MALCZEWSKI                       Number: 385
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/93  9:22p
Subj: HP7475A Plotter                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Everyone,

HP 7475A 6 pen plotter for sale. Factory reconditioned. Excellent shape.
Used only 2 hours since being reconditioned (selling since I bought a HP
LJIII). Includes original manuals, over 25 pens for both paper and
overheads, one carousel and power cord. This is the RS232 interface version.
$350.

********************************************************************

Call 517-636-2724 days 8AM - 5PM (phone mail after 5PM), or
517-631-4038 evenings/weekends until 11:30PM EST for more
information/shipping arrangements, or post message here.
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From: RICK ASHWORTH                          Number: 386
  To: BILL HENDERSON                           Date: 06/04/93  1:19a
Subj: 7th Guest Trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hello Bill!

30 May 93, Bill Henderson writes to All:

 BH> I have a two week old copy of 7th Guest that I just can't get
into...what
 BH> do you have to trade? Really like to find Bible Library and Bibles and
 BH> Religion CD-Roms, but will consider all. Leave me a note. -+-
GEcho/beta

I'll swap you a brand new Bible CD (9 bibles, 20 references..) for T7G...

Rick

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From: RICK ASHWORTH                          Number: 387
  To: NANCY PORTER                             Date: 06/04/93  1:21a
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Nancy!

31 May 93, Nancy Porter writes to Terry Blount:


 TB>> I am getting a few more used internal Hitachi 3500's.  I will  be
 TB>> offering them for $130 each. Controller cards are $60  that  will
 TB>> run up to 4 of these drives.  4 of these drives are available for
 TB>> $600 with controller card, case and cables  to  connect  to  your
 TB>>

 NP> Wait a moment.  130
 NP>                 x 4
 NP>                 -+-
 NP>                 520
 NP>                 +60
 NP>                 -+-
 NP>                 580

 NP> And YOU are selling them for $600?  Such a deal! <Sigh!>

And you want the case/cables and labor to install for nothing?  Nice try!

Rick

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From: RICK ASHWORTH                          Number: 388
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/04/93  1:24a
Subj: Florida Lion's Den Inc. CD Complaint!   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Lee!

Answering a msg of <31 May 93>, from Lee Noga to Doug Carpenter:

You came to Comdex and didn't tell me... <pout>

Rick

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From: PHILIP CANTERBURY NORMAN BATES         Number: 389
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93  2:11a
Subj: Catalogs                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

I would like to get on the mailing list for all of the cd rom catalogs
 possible.

    My address is:

       Philip R. Canterbury, Jr.
       1004 New Mexico Drive
       Pensacola, FL 32505
       (904) 453-1434

         Or you can net-mail me at:
         1:3612/169 (fido net) 904-453-8993 (bbs)

thanx

Philip

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From: PHILIP CANTERBURY NORMAN BATES         Number: 390
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93  2:20a
Subj: CD disk resellers                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

 I would like to get some infomation on becoming a cd rom distior or
reseller.

   I help run a local computer store and would like to start carring cd rom
 disk in it.  I would like to fine a place that would give me eather
 a wholesale discost or a bulk discost on cd rom's and cd disks.

    904-453-1434

thanx


Philip

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From: BRIAN MILLER                           Number: 391
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/04/93  6:55a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer
-> Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address, and we'd
-> glad to get one right out to you.  Thanks!
->
->                                                         Jim...

Brian Miller
404 Baldie St.
Ionia, MI 48846


Thank you....


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From: BRIAN MILLER                           Number: 392
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 06/04/93  7:01a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> >CD Game Pack II       $26

Is this the NEW Games 1993 disk that just came out?  If so I want it.


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From: BRIAN MILLER                           Number: 393
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 06/04/93  7:06a
Subj: Clearance Sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you have the NEW Games 1993 cd, if so how much and can you ship it
out to me COD?   You should still have my address from the cdrom drive I
bought from you.  Let me know what the scoop is and I'll let ya know if
it beats other prices I have seen, if so lets make a deal.


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From: KEITH SHEEHAN                          Number: 394
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 06/02/93 10:59p
Subj: MITSUMI'S                               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

You need a CD from Kodak called Photo CD Access. It is a windows-based
program so you also need Win 3.1 to run it. You can also access the Photo CDs
from graphics packages such as Corel Draw or Tempra but Photo CD Access is
the cheapest solution. It lists for $35 but you can usually get it fir around
$29 if you look around. Hope this helps.

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From: SCOTT ELMORE                           Number: 395
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/93  3:53p
Subj: GEEZ                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Okay every dealer LISTEN UP!!!

    I am a SysOp, who enjoys reading this echo to find cd-s that are
reasonably priced.. HOWEVER. When a few of you started advertising "Send
your name and address for free catalog" my mail packets like DOUBLED in
size!

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE... Have them call you voice! It is worth $.50 to $1.00
for a catalog to be mailed free! Come on guys, lets stop cluttering up this
echo!!!

Moderator? What do you think...

    (BTW, here about every 3 messages is a catalog request)

                                --Scott

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From: CHRIS ASBURY                           Number: 396
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/03/93 11:17p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send me a copy of your catalogue.  May as well send the adult list
also.
 
Please send to:
Chris Asbury
PO Box 848
Mills, WY  82644
 
Thank You

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From: BRIAN HIPPS                            Number: 397
  To: ANDREW MURPHY                            Date: 06/04/93  1:54p
Subj: Fao gold                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

AM>   Well, like most people, I hate to admit I am not perfect, but... It
AM>so happens I am not.  A while back I entered a few messages warning

Andrew, we live in a time when people would rather lie about an incorrect
statement or action they may have comitted than to admit they were wrong. I
commend and respect you for your honesty.

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 398
  To: TYLER A. WUNDER                          Date: 06/04/93  5:49p
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Tyler!

Thursday June 03 1993, Tyler A. Wunder writes to Dave Reed:

 TAW> In a msg of <Monday May 31 1993>, Dave Reed writes to All:

 DR>> Bibles & Religion ........... 12.00

 TAW>      Hi Dave.  This one looks interesting.  What more can you tell me
 TAW> about it?

Uhhhhh.... that it's sold out?  ;-(

I could probably come up with some more, if I were asked to do so.  ;-)

Dave

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 399
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/04/93  3:27a
Subj: Re: Adult ROMs Wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bob,
Did you get the message that I called and was interested in trading?

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Santa's elves are just a bunch of subordinate Clauses.


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 400
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/04/93 10:02a
Subj: Re: I am looking...                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> In a message to All <05-31-93 23:21> Vito Servideo wrote:
-> VS>> I am looking for a cdrom that has clipart that I could use with
-> VS>> word
-> VS>> processors and dtp programs
->
-> Encyclopedia of ClipArt--Ask an dealer in the echo. Its all PCX and n
-> garbage--Mnaual for this will be released in the summer that gives yo
-> of all the 11,000 clips.
->
-> -=*>Lee<*=-
->
-> --- GEcho 1.00+
->  * Origin: Queen Of Hearts BBS (904)789-6843 (1:3618/23)

Thanks Lee


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 401
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/04/93 10:03a
Subj: can...                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can somebody give me the price of "Encycopedia of Clipart"


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 402
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/04/93 10:08a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer
-> Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address, and we'd
-> glad to get one right out to you.  Thanks!
->
->                                                         Jim...
-> Computer Works
-> CD-Rom Sales!
-> (205) 793-4481 Voice
-> (205) 671-0092 BBS
->
-> --- FreeMail 1.08b
->  * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)

I would be interestedin recieving a catalog that also includes adult
images

Vito A Servideo
2741 ne 24 street
Pompano Beach, FL 33064

Thanks in advance


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From: JASON GROSS                            Number: 403
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/04/93  3:40p
Subj: Still looking                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Re: Sony CD-ROM drive
BY: John Trimback

for a inexpensive CDROM drive to buy.




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From: JEAN-GUY PARE                          Number: 404
  To: TYLER A. WUNDER                          Date: 06/04/93  2:02p
Subj: FREE CD-ROM CATALOGS!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 G'day Tyler,

->
-> In a msg of <Sunday May 30 1993>, Doug Burden writes to Jean-guy Pare:
-> DB> Please include me in your catalog list! DB> DOug Burden DB> box 1163
DB>
-> Angus, Ontario DB> LOM 1BO
->    From this I assume that you're handing out free cd-rom catalogs?  If
so,
-> could you please send one my way?

   Sorry Doug sent his message to the wrong personne, i'm not seller but
buyer.
           Jean-Guy
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From: CHRIS MILLIKIN                         Number: 405
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93  9:14p
Subj: June Updates                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                J U N E  P R O D U C T  Updates

   C D - R O M  Computer Software  (Compton's New Media)
   ------------------------------------------------------------------
   THE GRAMMY AWARDS.........................................$ 35.95
   MEGA MOVIE GUIDE..........................................$ 41.95
   JAZZ - A Multimedia History...............................$ 59.95
   Multimedia Golf Guide.....................................$ 23.95
   KGB/CIA World Fact Book...................................$ 29.95
   USA Today.................................................$ 41.95
   Software Jukebox - All American Sports....................$ 29.95
   The Madness of Roland.....................................$ 35.95
   Greatest Book Collection..................................$ 29.95
   New Basics - Electronic Cookbook..........................$ 41.95
   Time Table of History - Arts & Entertainment..............$ 41.95
   Beauty and the Beast......................................$ 23.95

   VIRGIN GAMES CD-ROM
   THE 7TH GUEST  - First interactive drama in terrifyingly
   real  virtual environment complete with live actors. Old
   man Stauf's bizarre puzzles  to solve and games to play.
   Twenty - two rooms to explore in  a fully - realized 3-D
   haunted mansion  with ghastly surprises lurking in every
   shadow.......................................................$ 51.95

                     --------------------------
   - Prepaid: Money Order, Cashiers Check, Personal/Business Check.
   - Orders are processed when check clears. U.S. Funds. No COD.
   - UPS Ground shipping not included.
   - Prices are subject to change without notice.
   - Not Responsible for Typos.
   - Business Hours: Mon-Sat 08:30-6:30pm MST.
   - CALL for current pricing !! .. (303) 373-5119

      SEC-COMM International, 14633 E. 47th Ave., Denver, CO 80239

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From: BRANDAN UPSON                          Number: 406
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 06/05/93  4:00p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Call me voice at (913)383-9442. Very interested in making the trade.

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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 407
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 06/04/93 10:43p
Subj: Cd-rom drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Howdy Patrick,

01 Jun 93, Patrick Rosenheim writes to All:

 >> PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Drive, Danvers, MA 01923-3453
 >> Phone: (508) 750-6600 - Mastercard & Visa accepted!!!!

How do you ship?

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From: RICHARD VONZEL                         Number: 408
  To: LOREN EVERS                              Date: 06/05/93  8:59p
Subj: messages                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hi,
-> Back again.  One quick question, do you have, or are you going to get
-> a QWK type offline mail service.  You have probably the most
-> extensive fido conference selection, and I would like to utilize my
-> time on the board better, by not reading online.  I see that you have
-> just set up the board with new software, so I'm sure you have your
-> work cut out for you.  Just consider this a constructive comment, and
-> work on it whenever you may get the time.


  Yes from the main menu user the XPRESS quick command....


Richard.
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From: LOREN EVERS                            Number: 409
  To: RICHARD VONZEL                           Date: 06/05/93  8:56a
Subj: messages                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi,
Back again.  One quick question, do you have, or are you going to get a
QWK type offline mail service.  You have probably the most extensive
fido conference selection, and I would like to utilize my time on the
board better, by not reading online.  I see that you have just set up
the board with new software, so I'm sure you have your work cut out for
you.  Just consider this a constructive comment, and work on it whenever
you may get the time.
Keep up the good work on the board...
-Loren
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 410
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/02/93 10:39p
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den Inc. CD Complaint!  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> Thanks Babe !! You bet we are and there is going to be a "Busty Babes 
 LN> Vol II", 1000 scans, no penetration shots on this 
 LN> disc--Just locked into the deal this weekend--All 
 LN> material is copyrighted by photographer and he is 
 LN> allowing it to go on the BBS. We expect to bring 
 LN> this disc to market in 45 days (ready to ship). 
 LN> Gorgeous woman, and top notch professional scanning.
 
Sounds like another nice one.  They are definitely at the top of the list in
quality <g>.  
 
 LN> consumer expectations--So far IBM technology is off 
 LN> the marker, but we did find a company at COMDEX 
 LN> that want to prove us wrong, and want the to do the 
 LN> project with us as a joint venture--SO we are 
 LN> sending them beta clips to see what they are all 
 LN> about--
 
I know what you mean.  Wish I could afford to buy and had the time to get one
of those 100 CD changers <g>.  Were you there Monday or Tuesday?  Saw Faye on
Monday.  She was tied up with a customer on Tuesday when I went by.  Saw
Component, Trade Shows, CD Rom Source, Walnut Creek, Max Systems, and a
couple I hadn't seen before I think.  It was most interesting.  That wouldn't
surprise me on the scouts.  It will be interesting to see who comes out on
top in the shareware and adult CD market <g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 411
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/02/93 10:51p
Subj: Heavy Hitters                           Refer: NONE
Read: 06/07/93  6:06a                       Private: No 

 TH> Here are the CD ROM people who exibited at COMDEX Atlanta..
 TH> Dr. T's                          Compton's New Media
 
I know Comptons was supposed to have a booth there, but it was closed up when
I went by on Monday and Tuesday.....

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From: DAVE HITT                              Number: 412
  To: IAN LEVSTEIN                             Date: 06/05/93 11:51p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I realize that Ian, and just attached my message to yours, for lack of a
better place to put it.  Sorry for any confusioni.

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From: JAMIE MORGAN                           Number: 413
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 06/03/93  5:29p
Subj: How do I?                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In response to your question on the SoundBlaster card, I believe that
the only CDROM drives you may purchase are made by either Panasonic or
one other brand (I don't recall the other one but it's not yours).  It
was printed on the outside of the SoundBlaster package, however I threw
my package away.


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From: LEWIS BULLARD                          Number: 414
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93 11:00a
Subj: FOR SALE                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 

Need to sell my system for fall tuition. PB Legend 920 (486sx), 4meg ram
onboard vga, PB vga monitor, 124 meg IDE Seagate, 2400 baud modem, bus mouse,
Magnovox CDD 461 cd-rom and cd audio player with  set of aiwa speakers with
amps, Logitech 32 grayscale hand scanner with interface card, dual disk
drives,
will include 6 cdrom disks with purchase at asked price of $1300. Great setup
for DTP. Lewis 405-357-5942 in the pm or echo back.

... Double your harddrive space -- delete Windows!!!!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 415
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93 12:06p
Subj: CD Specials                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Monster Disk - $35.  Shareware Extravag - $45.   CD PowerBox      - $20.
Pier 1       - $29.  SoundWaV           - $25.   Shareware Online - $29.
Asian Ladies - $35.  Adult Ref Library  - $35.   All ChestNuts    - $14.
Hobbs OS/2   - $25.  Windows 1993       - $25.   Night Owl 8      - $29.
Groilers Ency DOS / Windows Version - $50.00ec   Night Owl 7      - $19.
Gameware     - $30.  Canadian Shareware - $15.   IBM Sampler      - $ 7.
  Mitsumi Int (350ms) - $195. Nec36M - Complete Ext SCSI System $269.
        Pioneer DM600 - Bare Drive - $799.     DM604X - $1199.
 ORDERS ONLY - 800-243-0517 For Tech or Product Info Call - 216-225-3263
      (((((((((((   Call Us - You'll Be Glad You Did   ))))))))))))))


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 416
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93 12:06p
Subj: Pioneer Special                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> S P E C I A L   P U R C H A S E <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
                 From Consumer's Club International
Because this is a LIMITED OFFER, the following units will be sold on
a first come first serve basis. Once these units are gone, the offer
will end and we WILL NOT place any orders on back order status.

Pioneer DMR 600 - 600ms / 150kps - bare drive  - PRICE $ 799.00
Pioneer DMR 604X -350ms / 600kps - bare drive  - PRICE $1199.00
                Visa - MasterCard - C.O.D - Pre-Paid
    ORDERS ONLY - 800-243-0517 - TECH SUPPORT - 216-225-3263


Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 417
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93  5:35p
Subj: SHAREWARE CD COMPARISONS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

------------------------------------------------------------------------
                SHAREWARE CD-ROM DUPLICATION COMPARISONS
------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.0

PR1 = PIER1                PR2 = PIER2                 NO7 = NIGHT OWL 7
SS1 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 1   SS2 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 2    NO8 = NIGHT OWL 8
SC2 = SUPER CD 2           SV1 = SOFTWARE VAULT        CDP = CD POWERBOX
SWO = SHAREWARE ONLINE     MON = MONSTER DISC

           % OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
          ---------------------------------------------------
     PR1   PR2   NO7   NO8   SS1   SS2   MON   SC2   SV1   CDP   SWO
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
PR1| .06%| .23%| 1.8%| 6.5%| 3.2%| 7.2%| 7.6%| 6.5%| .70%| 2.1%| 4.5%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
PR2| .23%| .00%| .09%| .43%| .34%| 2.5%| 1.7%| .85%| .40%| .18%| .19%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
NO7| 1.8%| .09%| .06%| .57%| 5.0%| 7.4%|34.0%| 9.9%| 1.2%|77.3%| 7.0%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
NO8| 6.5%| .43%| .57%| .24%| 1.4%| 7.0%| 4.9%|46.3%| 1.0%| .89%| 1.8%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SS1| 3.2%| .34%| 5.0%| 1.4%| .15%| .16%| 7.6%| 3.4%| 2.3%| 7.3%| 7.4%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SS2| 7.2%| 2.5%| 7.4%| 7.0%| .16%| .01%|14.8%|11.3%| 4.7%| 7.2%| 7.1%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
MON| 7.6%| 1.7%|34.0%| 4.9%| 7.6%|14.8%| .91%|15.4%| .54%|24.2%|19.1%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SC2| 6.5%| .85%| 9.9%|46.3%| 3.4%|11.3%|15.4%| 1.3%| .70%| 9.0%| 2.9%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SV1| .70%| .40%| 1.2%| 1.0%| 2.3%| 4.7%| .54%| .70%| 2.6%| 3.3%| 1.1%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
CDP| 2.1%| .18%|77.3%| .89%| 7.3%| 7.2%|24.2%| 9.0%| 3.3%| .23%| 7.0%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SWO| 4.5%| .19%| 7.0%| 1.8%| 7.4%| 7.1%|19.1%| 2.9%| 1.1%| 7.0%| .84%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+

        PRICES
        ------
        PIER 1..............29.00      PIER 2..............45.00
        NIGHT OWL 7.........25.00      NIGHT OWL 8.........33.50
        SHAREWARE STUDIO 1..21.00      SHAREWARE STUDIO 2..27.00
        MONSTER DISC 2-PAK..44.00      SUPER CD 2..........29.00
        SOFTWARE VAULT......26.00      CD POWERBOX.........23.00
        SHAREWARE ONLINE....29.00

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Find a better advertised price?  Call us LAST, and we'll save you some $$$
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA þ MC þ AMEX þ DISCOVER þ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs þ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 418
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93  5:35p
Subj: SUM NU STUF!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************************************************************************
                      NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR!
**************************************************************************

1.  GAMES 1993 - 6000+ files, and over 500 megabytes of nothing but the
    world's best games!  Tetris clones, Lotto, casino, sports, arcade,
    flight simulator utilities, etc. CGA/EGA/VGA. BBS-Ready.  ** $28.00 **

2.  SCI-FI - Star Trek, Star Wars, Fantasy, D&D, & more!  Over 1200
    VGA photos w/ sound files too! BBS-ready.  ** $29.00 **

3.  SWIMWEAR 1993 - 1500 VGA photos of beautiful swimsuit-clad women.
    All GIF's are 640x480 to 1024x768 resolution.  No x-rated material
    here.  BBS-ready.  ** $29.00 **

4.  HOUSE OF GAMES - EGA/VGA/SVGA game CD.  Covers the best of shareware
    games.  All are ready to run right from the CD!  ** $29.00 **

5.  MY FIRST TIME - Full length adult feature film on CD starring Nikki
    Dial.  Similar to Rimfire Pacific, except you don't need Windows
    for this one!  2-CD set = 80 minutes.  ** $65.00 **

   ** SPECIAL OFFER:  Buy any two above and take a 5% discount.  Buy
                      any four and deduct 7%.  Buy all 5 and take 10%
                      off!  (This offer is for a limited time only)

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Find a better advertised price?  Call us LAST, and we'll save you some $$$
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA þ MC þ AMEX þ DISCOVER þ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs þ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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 þ SLMR 2.1a þ I've told you a million times not to exaggerate.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 419
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93  5:35p
Subj: TOP 5 SHAREWARE CD'S                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************************************************************************
                   TOP 5 BEST-SELLING SHAREWARE CD'S!
**************************************************************************

1. PIER 2 - Perhaps the most outstanding shareware disc to ever come along!
   Over 650 megabytes of terrific, top-shelf shareware with less than 1%
   duplication to Pier 1 and Night Owl 8.  Over 5,000 files in 50 different
   categories, with 75% dated 1993, and 25% dated 1992. If you want the
   BEST shareware CD on the market for your personal or BBS use, there is
   only one choice:  Pier 2.  ** $45.00 **

2. SHAREWARE STUDIO #2 - An outstanding new disc with 6659 hand-picked
   1992/1993 shareware files.  Includes every possible file area from
   ANSI Graphics to Word Processing.  Fully BBS-ready with a super-
   slick user interface.  All files free of archive errors, BBS
   ads, AV codes, and all known computer viruses. Less than 1/2 of 1%
   internal duplicates, with NO dupes to #1!  637mb total.  ** $27.00 **

3. SOFTWARE VAULT #2 - A phenomenal collection of late releases,
   including the "Hottest Hits" of Spring 1993.  Fully BBS-compatible,
   with FILES.BBS in each directory.  Categories include Windows
   Applications & Games, DOS games, Family and Education, General
   Business Programs, PC Utilities, Graphics, Programming Utilities &
   Source Code, Music & Sound, Special Interests, and much more.  620mb
   total.  This one won't be available everywhere!  ** $29.00 **

4. MONSTER DISC 2-PAK - A fantastic 2-CD combo that combines the absolute
   best of 1992 and 1993 shareware in a neat package.  Includes a highly
   attractive bound manual that lists every single program on the CD's,
   and gives an informative description of each.  ** $44.00 **

5. NIGHT OWL 8 - What more can be said about this one?  Always contro-
   versial, the Night Owl shareware CD's still prove to be among the
   "league's elite" in the shareware category.  With an updated search
   engine, over 600 megs, a 70/30 split of 1992/1993 files, and less
   than 1% duplication to previous N.O. discs, this one is a MUST HAVE!
   ** $33.50 **  (Only $55 w/ Night Owl 7)

   ** SPECIAL OFFER:  Buy any two above and take a 5% discount.  Buy
                      any three and deduct 7%.  Buy all five and take 10%
                      off!  (This offer is for a limited time only)

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Find a better advertised price?  Call us LAST, and we'll save you some $$$
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA þ MC þ AMEX þ DISCOVER þ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs þ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: ED FORTIN                              Number: 420
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/05/93 12:00a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogue                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send a catalogue to the folowing address
         Ed Fortin
         RR7 Conc 5
         Perth,Ont
         K7H-3C9

        Regards Ed

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From: BRYAN SPEED                            Number: 421
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  5:22a
Subj: CD Drive Prices/Types                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For my first time to pick up and actaully read this echo, I find it to be
quite interesting.

I see msgs reffering to 4 and 6 drive units, etc.
And I see prices discussed on the 6 dive units, but can someone fill me in
on the brand/types of 4 drive units ?

I am about to purchase another one of those Mitsumi 200.00 single, internal
units, however....

Thanks for the help,
Bryan


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From: BRYAN SPEED                            Number: 422
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  5:30a
Subj: OnLine CD Disk Catalogs                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like to solicit any Online catalogs of CD-Disks.
Also solicited are standard catalogs-by-snail mail!

Please: NO- Adult-Only catalogs!

Note: OnLine catalogers: If you have PCX/TIF, etc Logos, send them also
      for RIP online display!

Mailing Address:
Bryan Speed/SoftLink Online
520 English Oak
Allen, Tx. 75002
Netmail per the origin Line!


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From: WAYNE STRICKLAND                       Number: 423
  To: JACK BROWN                               Date: 06/06/93  5:14a
Subj: Re: Free cd-rom catalogs!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested in all titles.
address: 2025 Wilmot St.
Philadelphia,Pa.
19124-3407
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From: DOCTOR PLEASURE                        Number: 424
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/05/93  1:09p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM CATALOG                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jim, 

I'd like to be added to the CD-ROM Mailing list, including adult titles.

Olen Leonard
P.O. Box 921622
Norcross, Ga. 30092

Thanks...

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From: SAM FERTITTA                           Number: 425
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93  5:05p
Subj: Looking for cd's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Lookig for used cd's, or prices on new.

Loom, Sherlock Holmes #2, Arthurs Teacher Trouble, Dinosaurs. Also Busty
Babes and Ecstasy.

Call 716-383-0754 or reply here.


Thanks...Sam
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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 426
  To: MIKE MAST                                Date: 05/25/93  1:16p
Subj: Need a CD SCSI controller               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PP>*** Quoting Mike Mast to Philip Polstra dated 05-20-93 ***
PP>>  > I need a SCSI controller for my Chinon 435 so I can use it
PP>>  > with Windows NT.  I'm looking for the cheapest controller I
PP>>  > can get that is NT compatible which probably means Future
PP>>  > Domain.
PP>>

I have a Adaptec 1540B SCSI 16-Bit busmastering SCSI controller.
It is both SCSI-1 and SCSI-2 compatable, supports upto 7 devices,no
floppy support.  With installation manual, EZ-SCSI drives, printed
technical manual and next day shipping.  In excellent shape.

OS/2 2.1 has support for this card.  At this point, MS has not indicated
which SCSI adapters they will support yet, but you can bet that Adaptec
willbe one of them.

Anyway, I would like $100 for this card, which is probably $20 more
expensive than the cheap Future Domain non-busmastering SCSI HA.

415-586-8140 if you are interested.


 * OLX 2.1 TD * Old age comes at a bad time.


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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 427
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/25/93  1:24p
Subj: Trade for Drive                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a Syquest SQ555 internal (white face plate, with the latest BIOS
from Syquest), one 44MB cartridge (currently loaded with GIFs), and a
1540B SCSI host adapter with EZ-SCSI drives, install.manual, and
technical manual that I would like to trade for a SCSI cd-rom.

I will only consider multi-spin drives (I.E., Texel, NEC, Toshiba, etc).

I will cover all shippings costs and everything will be done via next
day express mail so neither of us will have have to wait.

If you are interested, pls leave message or give me a call (collect if
you desire) at 415-586-8140.

BTW, Syquest has about 3 operating hours on it and the 1540B is about a
year old.


 * OLX 2.1 TD * Death is not the end; there remins the litigation.


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From: BOB HART                               Number: 428
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93  9:24p
Subj: WANTED:CD ROM DRIVE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for an ext. cd-rom drive; used or new it
doesn't matter,and if possible around $200.


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From: BOB HART                               Number: 429
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 05/31/93  9:26p
Subj: CD catalog                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send a catalog to:
                        Bob Hart
                        5397 Heckel dr.
                        Roseville,Ohio 43777

      Adult cd's if possible.


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From: GEORGE BREDEHOFT                       Number: 430
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/05/93  9:31p
Subj: cd catalog                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jim,

Please send your cd catalog to:

    George Bredehoft
    815 Licking View Drive
    Heath, OH 43056

Thanks a lot.


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From: DANG NGUYEN                            Number: 431
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/04/93 10:30p
Subj: Distributor                             Refer: NONE
Read: 06/07/93  6:17a                       Private: No 

From my understanding, you are a distributor.  I am interested in
pressing a CD whose contents I will discuss with you later.  But I am
looking for a distributor and am requesting information on this matter.
Please give me a call at 714-539-4251 or leave a message here.  Thank
you.

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 432
  To: MIKE MAST                                Date: 06/06/93  6:46a
Subj: Re: Toshiba CD-ROM Drives               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MM>  > Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM bare drive.  DIP Switches for SCSI ID
MM>  > Setting.
MM>  > True SCSI, 350ms Access, 150k transfer rate.
MM>
MM>  > $200.00
MM>
MM> Are these new or used?  Warranty?  Work with Trantor controller?

Used. 60 Day Warranty. The drive should work with your controller.  It's a
SCSI drive, not a proprietary one.

Thanks.

205-837-5053

M. Konor
AMIGA_CDROM Co.Moderator
Request if from your SYSOP.


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 433
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  7:46a
Subj: Cheap CD-ROM Drive                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


Toshiba XM-3201 Series SCSI CD-ROMS Drives.

External Unit:

Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
power supply and cable.  Include two Centronics 50 connectors mounted to
rear of the enclosure for I/O and passthru cabling.  Easy access to SCSI
ID Switches.  True SCSI. 350ms Access. 150k transfer rate. External 
headphone jack and volume control.  Powersupply accepts 90-240 Volts AC.

$225.00

Internal Unit:

Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM bare drive.  DIP Switches for SCSI ID Setting.
True SCSI, 350ms Access, 150k transfer rate.  External headphone jack and
volume control.

$200.00

60 day defect warranty included.


205-837-5053
leave message if not home, it WILL be returned.

Michael Konor
AMIGA_CDROM Co.Moderator




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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 434
  To: FRANK MALCZEWSKI                         Date: 06/07/93  6:02a
Subj: AMIGA A-MAXII Mac Emulatr               Refer: 3825
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> A-Max II Macintosh emulator cartridge, Original MAC 128K ROMS, AMAX I
-> software (including quick load program) and manuals. $165

Frank, this is the CDROM_SALE echo.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 435
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/07/93  6:21a
Subj: Heavy Hitters                           Refer: 3853
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->  TH> Here are the CD ROM people who exibited at COMDEX Atlanta..
->  TH> Dr. T's                          Compton's New Media
->
-> I know Comptons was supposed to have a booth there, but it was closed
-> I went by on Monday and Tuesday.....

They had one of those "hidden" booths, where you had to go behind a
curtain to see their wares - kinda like one of those county fair deals.

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 436
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/07/93  6:14a
Subj: SHAREWARE CD COMPARISONS                Refer: 3859
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->            % OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
->           ---------------------------------------------------
->      PR1   PR2   NO7   NO8   SS1   SS2   MON   SC2   SV1   CDP   SWO
->    +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----
-> PR1| .06%| .23%| 1.8%| 6.5%| 3.2%| 7.2%| 7.6%| 6.5%| .70%| 2.1%| 4.5%
->    +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----
-> PR2| .23%| .00%| .09%| .43%| .34%| 2.5%| 1.7%| .85%| .40%| .18%| .19%
->    +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----
-> NO7| 1.8%| .09%| .06%| .57%| 5.0%| 7.4%|34.0%| 9.9%| 1.2%|77.3%| 7.0%
->    +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----
-> NO8| 6.5%| .43%| .57%| .24%| 1.4%| 7.0%| 4.9%|46.3%| 1.0%| .89%| 1.8%
->    +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----
-> SS1| 3.2%| .34%| 5.0%| 1.4%| .15%| .16%| 7.6%| 3.4%| 2.3%| 7.3%| 7.4%
->    +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----
-> SS2| 7.2%| 2.5%| 7.4%| 7.0%| .16%| .01%|14.8%|11.3%| 4.7%| 7.2%| 7.1%
->    +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----
-> MON| 7.6%| 1.7%|34.0%| 4.9%| 7.6%|14.8%| .91%|15.4%| .54%|24.2%|19.1%
->    +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----
-> SC2| 6.5%| .85%| 9.9%|46.3%| 3.4%|11.3%|15.4%| 1.3%| .70%| 9.0%| 2.9%
->    +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----
-> SV1| .70%| .40%| 1.2%| 1.0%| 2.3%| 4.7%| .54%| .70%| 2.6%| 3.3%| 1.1%
->    +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----
-> CDP| 2.1%| .18%|77.3%| .89%| 7.3%| 7.2%|24.2%| 9.0%| 3.3%| .23%| 7.0%
->    +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----
-> SWO| 4.5%| .19%| 7.0%| 1.8%| 7.4%| 7.1%|19.1%| 2.9%| 1.1%| 7.0%| .84%
->    +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----

That's good stuff... Thanks for the post.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 437
  To: DANG NGUYEN                              Date: 06/07/93  6:20a
Subj: Distributor                             Refer: 3873
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> From my understanding, you are a distributor.  I am interested in
-> pressing a CD whose contents I will discuss with you later.  But I am
-> looking for a distributor and am requesting information on this matte
-> Please give me a call at 714-539-4251 or leave a message here.  Thank
-> you.

Hey Dang,

I'll be glad to help - will call you today.  If I miss you, my number is
404-621-9210.

tim
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From: STEPHEN GUPTON                         Number: 438
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/07/93  4:45a
Subj: SUM NU STUF!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Jun0704:45, Mike Shannon of 1:3407/101 writes:

 MS> *****************************************************************
 MS> *********
 MS>                       NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR!
 MS> *****************************************************************
 MS> *********

 MS> 1.  GAMES 1993 - 6000+ files, and over 500 megabytes of nothing 
 MS> but the
 MS>     world's best games!  Tetris clones, Lotto, casino, sports, 
 MS> arcade,
 MS>     flight simulator utilities, etc. CGA/EGA/VGA. BBS-Ready.  ** 
 MS> $28.00 **
     I spoke with 3 differant distributors and all say this disk is hosed up,
and yet, they were honest enough to point this out rather than just make a
sale.  

   Stephen 
  

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From: EARL BONSER                            Number: 439
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 06/04/93 12:45p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> > I have Giffy Gold,
-> I have Physical Therapy, volume 3, an almost exact duplicate of XXX
-> Extreme that I would trade for the above.  I  bought this one at
-> comdex, and did not realize it duplicated extreme, so it is in
-> perfect condition.  Interested?

If he isn't, I am.  Let me know by calling (813)969-2860 after 6pm EST
any evening or anytime on the weekend.
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From: JIM REED                               Number: 440
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 06/04/93  3:28p
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TK>  >    in the background.  I have not noticed any conflict with other
TK>  >    programs yet, it must not even be using the CPU because I can't

TK> yeah. it's a small tsr.  just don't use DESQVIEW with it, and you'll
TK>continue to enjoy it.  Desqview is the only prog I know of that locks it
TK>up! even when it is executed before running it.

Hi Tim;
        Thanks for the advise - Yes I do use DV and will heed your
        advise.
                        THanks
                                /JIM/

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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 441
  To: JIM CLEMENTS                             Date: 06/05/93  1:02p
Subj: hello                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

will do tha Jim, sorry to hear about your accident, hope that you are
recovered fully from that, i myself am injured. i feel of a house last
year . still on crutches at this time.  well thanks for the reply.
i  dont want to make the moderator of this echo mad at me for not
mentioning cd roms...   so do you have a cd rom? <G> i have 3 of the
drives and a 3 node bbs here in the tampa bay area ... good talking with
you    best regards   bubba therrien
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From: KEN CARPENTER                          Number: 442
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93 11:18p
Subj: CorelDraw 3.0 CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am trying to get a good price on CorelDraw 3.0 can anyone help. I have
Word for Windows/Bookshelf92 if anyone is interested in a trade
otherwise a good price will do fine.

                                                 Thanks
                                                 Ken


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 443
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/06/93  8:12a
Subj:  Adult ROMs Wanted                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TW> Did you get the message that I called and was interested in trad  
                                                                       
  
Yep. I called back and left a message for you as well. At any rate, the 
CDs are gone now. Perhaps "next time". 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 444
  To: JERE WESSELL                             Date: 06/06/93  8:26a
Subj: asian ladies                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JW> Jere, Sysop Nighthawk Adult Graphics                              
                                                                       
  
As a "user" (as opposed to being a sysop), I'm generally favorably 
impressed by your work, Jere. Where do you get the original material; 
are you a photographer as well? Are the "PC Pix" bunch planning #4? 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 445
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/06/93  8:30a
Subj: CD Stats                                Refer: NONE
Read: 06/08/93  6:55a                       Private: No 

Even as "just a user" I found this data very interesting, Tim. Thanks 
for taking the trouble to post it! 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 446
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 06/06/93  8:28a
Subj: MONARCH NOTES                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FYI: 
  
Best Buy here in Houston is selling Monarch Notes for $44.95. In 
general, their CD-ROM prices (mostly games) were very good compared to 
what's posted on the the echo. Those with BB stores in their neck of the 
woods might do well to check them out. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 447
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/06/93  8:24a
Subj: PACKAGE                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris: 
  
Did you get the package of CDs I sent you? What do you think of my 
suggestion? 
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From: PIERRE PROULX                          Number: 448
  To: TOM PAULK                                Date: 06/05/93  8:47p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Tom!

In a message to Pierre Proulx <06/03/93> Tom Paulk wrote:

TP> I would like to get a copy of your CD-ROM catalogue.  Am interested in
TP> adult titles also.
TP> Send to:
TP> Tom Paulk
TP> 2359 Millbrae Dr.
TP> Henderson, NV 89014

You got the wrong person, I think you are referring to Jim Lambert, He is
the one with whom you should get in touch.


Pierre Proulx

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From: JASON BUCHANON                         Number: 449
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 06/05/93 12:58p
Subj: Re: TIM HELTON                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All Users <05-20-93 10:51> Terry Blount wrote:

TB>   I just came back from Atlanta today where I  had  the  chance  to
TB>   meet our honorable moderator of this conference,  and  the  great
TB>   business tycoon... Tim Helton.  I must say this is a mighty  fine
TB>   dude.  He allowed me to interrupt his schedule  for a  few  hours
TB>   this morning and he shared a wealth of secret inside hot  tips...
TB>   all for a $1.50 breakfast!

Next time your in seattle you can buy ME breakfast too, but it'll be more
like $10.50!  :-)  keep buying breakfast and you can interrupt my schedule
as often as you like.

                              -=Jason=-

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From: JASON BUCHANON                         Number: 450
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/05/93  1:03p
Subj: CD Powerbox disc                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey Mike!

Thanks for sending that powerbox disc so fast!!!  Your right......... it is
a good disc!  I was wondering though, why is this disc so much cheaper than
the night owl while its so much higher quality?

Somewere i was reading about a new disc called "cream'n your jeans" or
"cream of the crop" or something like that.... do you know anything about
it?  How mych is it?  Is it worth the money?

                             -=Jason=-

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From: JASON BUCHANON                         Number: 451
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 06/05/93  1:07p
Subj: Re: Some Disk Recommendations           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Don Nelson <05-23-93 09:39> Dave Perkovich wrote:

DP> The CD PowerBox and WinBox will prove to be a GREAT combination for
DP> sysops and users alike seeing as though there is minimal dupes between
the
DP> two (less than 1%)

YES YES YES!  They are!  I got the files list from Dave Reed and I cant
wait till he ships the WinBox!!!  My wife is about ready to kill me though
cause I buy too many disks, then register too many programs!  :-)

Thanks for the good disks adn keep up the good work!

                         -=Jason=-

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From: KEN MORRISON                           Number: 452
  To: JACK BROWN                               Date: 06/06/93  9:10a
Subj: Re: Free cd-rom catalogs!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Jack Brown to Jim Lambert <=-

 JB> JLI am now sending out our new CD-Rom catalog from Computer Works. 
 JB> Anyone JLwishing to be added to our mailing list, please leave me a
 JB> message with JLyour address.  Specify if you are interested in adult
 JB> titles.  Thanks! 
 JB> Please send a catalog, including adult titles, to:  P.O. Box 19825
 JB> Portland OR 97219
 JB> ===
 JB> * MegaMail 2.10 #1281:

 JB> -!- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251
 JB>  ! Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 (1:105/285)

Please send me your new CD-ROM catalog also your adult titles to
                Ken Morrison
                P O Box 378
                Morrisville N.C.27560
   I am the SySop of the Outland BBS Tag!

                                        Ken...

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From: KEN MORRISON                           Number: 453
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  9:26a
Subj: Genealogy CD-Rom Disk...                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Hi There 
        I am looking for a CD-Rom Disk On Geneology, any help would be 
        appreciated.  I would prefer that the press date on the disk be
        some time in 1993.  Thank you.

                                        Ken


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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 454
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/05/93  6:57a
Subj: Re: CDROM DISTRIBUTORS WA               Refer: NONE
Read: 06/08/93  6:56a                       Private: No 

TH>We've just gotten an exclusive to distribute a new & interactive adult
TH>title.  This disc is 100% original - original girls, original film,
TH>original music, original art, original concept, original everything...
TH>Nothing currently available can touch it. The video portions of this
TH>disc are 30 frames/second on a 320x200 pixel screen and are less than
TH>150 kb/second.  The disc should be ready in about 2 weeks...

Tim,
I'm making a disk that sounds identical to what you have. Can you leave
me your phone number (or netmail it to me)? I'd like to talk to you
about a couple of things.

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Mobius strippers never show you their back side.


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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 455
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 06/06/93  9:11a
Subj: Re: Adult cd's to swap                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KP>KP>  Well I have Volcano (ADULT) and VGA Spectrum for trade, If
interested,
KP>TW> I'm interested in the Volcano. What's VGA Spectrum?

KP>VGA Spectrum is a Shareware disk with a little bit of everything on it,
KP>Everything from .GIF's, to Utilities...

Thanks. I'm up to my ears in Shareware disks. Want to trade for the
volcano disk? Send to:
Terry Woodward
Suite 294
2269 S. University Drive
Davie, Fl 33324

Leave me an address and I'll send the cdrom. Which disk was it that you
wanted?

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Just fishin' at the shallow end of the gene pool....


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From: MICHAEL BOOTH                          Number: 456
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/05/93  9:24p
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL´Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer 
  ´Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address, 

        Send one to me.  My areas of interest are: Shareware, 
        Educational, Childrens, and Games.  *NO* interest in Adult.

        Michael Booth
        31 Bethesda Ct.
        Sacramento, CA 95838

Michael


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From: MICHAEL BOOTH                          Number: 457
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 06/05/93  9:40p
Subj: CDROM RETAILER                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GH´If you would like a catalog of over 400 CDROM titles.....

        Hello Gabe,

        Please send one to me:
                Michael Booth
                31 Bethesda Ct.
                Sacramento, CA 95838

Michael


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From: MICHAEL BOOTH                          Number: 458
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 06/05/93 10:17p
Subj: CD WINBOX - WINDOWS DISK                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dave,

        The CD sounds good, although the second half of your message 
        was out of kilter...lines too long.

        Are you the author, or just a distributer?

Michael


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From: SCOTT ATKINS                           Number: 459
  To: TIMOTHY C. NOVAK                         Date: 06/05/93 10:25a
Subj: Re:  Mitsumi drive audio                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Bob Jackson to Timothy C. Novak <=-

 TC> connect my Cd's outputs to the Sound Blaster's inputs and I didn  
 TC> anything out of it.  Is there something "special" that I missed?  

Tim:

If I remember correctly, you have to swap the wires in the connector.  
One unit has the grounds on the inner two pins, and the other has the grounds
on the outer two pins (I think).  If that is not totally correct, at
least I think you can get the idea what you need to look for when mating
the two units.

Good Luck,

Scott
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From: NICHOLAS QUARM                         Number: 460
  To: JIM DELESKIE                             Date: 06/06/93  9:02p
Subj: Re: CDROM Retailer                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please Send Me A Catalog
   Nick Quarm
     1520 Upson
     El Paso, Texas  79902-3651

Thanx


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From: TIM BURCHAM                            Number: 461
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/06/93 11:52a
Subj: Re: Cd-Rom Catalog                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer
JL>Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address, and we'd
JL>be glad to get one right out to you .  Thanks!
 
JL>                                                        Jim...
JL>Computer Works
JL>CD-Rom Sales!
JL>(205) 793-4481 Voice
JL>(205) 671-0092 BBS
 
Jim, I would be interested in your catalog.  Thanks!
 
 
Tim Burcham
Sta. 2, Box 218
Houma, Louisiana 70364

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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 462
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/05/93  7:26p
Subj: Catalogue                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Howdy Jim,

Catalogue please, that is, if you ship to Canada.

Kirk Rawnsley
5128 Grove Hill Rd. SW
Calgary Alta.
T3E 4G6

          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 463
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 06/06/93  9:10a
Subj: Catalogue                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Howdy Gabe,

Please send your catalogue to;

Kirk Rawnsley
5128 Grove Hill Road SW
Calgary Alberta
Canada
T3E 4G6

          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 464
  To: SCOTT ELMORE                             Date: 06/06/93  9:11a
Subj: GEEZ                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Howdy Scott,

03 Jun 93, Scott Elmore writes to All:

 SE>     I am a SysOp, who enjoys reading this echo to find cd-s that are
 SE> reasonably priced.. HOWEVER. When a few of you started advertising
"Send
 SE> your name and address for free catalog" my mail packets like DOUBLED in
 SE> size!

I too am a sysop, and believe me the costs for this echo for many
months would be eaten up in one phone call during business hours to the
US.  This is probably true for many sysops who do not live in your
particular state, depending upon what sort of mail and delivery system
your local net is using.  I expect this echo will cost me about $1.50
per month, probably less.  If I couldn't afford this hobby, I wouldn't
be in it...

          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: CRAIG WANG                             Number: 465
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 06/06/93  1:41a
Subj: Cd-roms wanted!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Would a Pilips CM-100 for $150, including shipping in original box
-> work for you--includes card and cable.  Less than one year of
-> use--spend most of its life in storage as excess equipment.  Call me
-> at 719-495-0495, if interested.

Hi Peter, I am interested in this CD-ROM drive, how fast is it? 16 or 8
bit card?

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From: CRAIG WANG                             Number: 466
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/06/93  1:43a
Subj: Sony cd-rom drive                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I'm selling a Sony CD-ROM with 380ms and 150k/sec transfer.This
-> includes all needed cables.I'll throw in LOOM too.I want $185(this
-> includes Loom).

Hi Scott, could you give me the model # on this one?  I'm going to
buy/need a CD-ROM drive very soon.  Thanks.

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From: CRAIG WANG                             Number: 467
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/06/93  2:15a
Subj: Sony cd drive                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Scott,
        Please ignore my previous msg.  If you think $150 sounds good
(I'll pay shipping) then go ahead and give me a call at (909)466-6218
and I'll give you my address.  Thanks.

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From: TAMI THOMPSON                          Number: 468
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  7:20p
Subj: WANTED: Controller for Toshiba 3200     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am in need of a controller (IBM PC) for my Toshiba 3200 CD-ROM drive. The
manual refers to a XM-PB301 & XM-PB841 Host Adapter. I also will need the
software drivers and cable (it is an external drive). Please NetMail me.
Thanks!

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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 469
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 06/06/93  9:24a
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Dave:

In a msg of <Friday June 04 1993>, Dave Reed writes to Tyler A. Wunder:

 DR>>> Bibles & Religion ........... 12.00

 TAW>> Hi Dave.  This one looks interesting.  What more can you tell me
 TAW>> about it?
 DR> Uhhhhh.... that it's sold out?  ;-(
 DR> I could probably come up with some more, if I were asked to do so.  ;-)

     Well, I'm not asking until I know more about it -- what can you tell me
about it?





Tyler A. Wunder

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From: TIMOTHY C. NOVAK                       Number: 470
  To: ROGER COLLINS                            Date: 06/06/93  5:08a
Subj: Pioneer unit                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RC> Of course, you *can* get the Pioneer unit for just a little more, which
RC> is a *better* deal, if you need 6 drives.

Is that really a better deal?  The reason I ask is that only one disk can be 
accessed at a time.  Wouldn't there be problems on a multi-line BBS if two or

more nodes are trying to download a program from different disks?  (Of
course,
I'm talking about downloading directly from the ROM itself too and not having

a program copy the files to disk first.)

Thanks for any info,

Timothy

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From: TIMOTHY C. NOVAK                       Number: 471
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 06/06/93  5:18a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KR>    Source CD-ROM ............... 17.00

Hello Dave,

    Is this the Source-Code CD with all the programming source on it?  Also, 
if you sell "Programmers ROM", can you give me a price for this as well.  If 
you happen to have any other programming ROM's that are newer, please let me 
know.

Thanks,

Timothy

P.S.  One last thing, if you have it listed, can ya tell me the amount of
megs
on each too?  Thanks!

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 472
  To: JOE VENTURELLI                           Date: 06/06/93  9:36p
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den Inc. CD Complaint!  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <06-01-93 15:17> Joe Venturelli wrote:

JV>> Bottom line - The Adult disk market will be left to those who do it
JV>> by the book and the folks infringing on copyrights will find
JV>> themselves in court.

Thanks Joe ! You are absolutely correct and there are scouts attending shows
now to buy up old and new copies of CD-ROMS for legal evaluation. Not only is
this industry having to deal with copyright infringement, but the models that
signed releases in the 70's are challenging those releases for pictures
showing up on CD-ROMS in '93--

But it's not only the adult side under scrutiny....the shareware authors are
filing suits as well--You will see the saturation of shareware CD's drop off
because of the shareware authors barring their works from CD-ROMS--

The honeymoon is over and this will surely cut out all the scam artists that
live to steal others material to produce their own CD's--This should restore
consumer confidence knowing the days of "Re-hashing" are coming to an end.

I cannot begin to tell you of the risk and danger of not knowing the
origination of shareware files and XXX GIFS--Nobody is safe and we are not
the only one that has taken a fall, you will see a few others over the next
few months--It's getting to the point where we have to have the shareware
authors signature for release before their files can go on CD--

This will definately get rid of the rift raft publishers, as well as give the
consumer products they enjoy without worrying about duplications.

We are with you--Any of our material found on another disc, will be litigated
at whatever cost.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 473
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/06/93  9:41p
Subj: Re:  Florida Lion's Den In              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <06-03-93 12:10> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>>  LN> Got them, Thanks a million--Busty Babes is going backon the mark

Change of plans--Busty has been off the market and will die a "Classic" she
will not be resurrected--Came to this decesion while at Chicago CES--

Good news--Bringing out another "Busty" disc 100% 1024x768 original pictures.

My voice number is (904)789-2377.

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 474
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/06/93  9:42p
Subj: Re:  I am looking...                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <06-03-93 12:14> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>>  LN> garbage--Mnaual for this will be released in the summer that giv
          ^^^^^^^

Now, Bob, you lost some of the words from that sentence, is is *NOT* garbage
:) and yes, this is one of ours !!

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 475
  To: RICK ASHWORTH                            Date: 06/06/93 10:02p
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den Inc. CD Complaint!  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <06-04-93 01:24> Rick Ashworth wrote:

RA>> You came to Comdex and didn't tell me... <pout>

Did worse then than...I attended the CES show in Chiacago last week too.
Darn, how did I miss so many people.... I hung out at the TradeShows
booth...I will be at the next COMDEX show (not Canada in July) cuz' I will be
pulling handles in 'Vegas--But I will be at the next COMDEX and CES
show--WOuld love to meet you !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 476
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/06/93 10:12p
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den Inc. CD Complaint!  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <06-02-93 22:39> Doug Carpenter wrote:

DC>> Sounds like another nice one.  They are definitely at the top of the
DC>> list in quality <g>.

Thanks Babe--We have 3 blockbuster disc in the works, and we made the
decision in Chicago to let "Busty Babes" go down in the books as a classic.

Instead the next Busty disc will all be 1024x768 of the bustiest women ever
mastered in ROM.....We are going to go total Hi res, and give the people
something to sing about !

DC>> get one of those 100 CD changers <g>.  Were you there Monday or
DC>> Tuesday?  Saw Faye on Monday.

I was there for the entire show and I popped into all the booths--Heard you
were there and I wish I could have met ya ! TradeShows was busy !!

Saw alot of things I wanted--I fell in love with the PC Karoake software for
windows, the one with the mike and 25 songs--Well, at CES I became a dealer
and we are trying to get them to put all available songs on CD-ROM---So,
guess I can't say that I only sell our products cuz' I sell their products
now, so I have revised my position as "FLD sells only their own products and
the products they love to play with " It's the neatest thing !

I am in love with the CHINON 535 series ROM drive--I want one, NOW :) The
hell with Texel drives....

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 477
  To: BRIAN MILLER                             Date: 06/06/93  9:28a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Brian!

In a message to Patrick Rosenheim <06/04/93> Brian Miller wrote:

BM> -> >CD Game Pack II       $26

BM> Is this the NEW Games 1993 disk that just came out?  If so I want it.

HI Brian.. Games 1993.. in stock with overnight shipping included...
$31.95 1-800-289-1ROM The MARKetplace!

(314-521-4862 International)




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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 478
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 06/06/93  9:30a
Subj: can...                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Vito!

In a message to All <06/04/93> Vito Servideo wrote:

VS> Can somebody give me the price of "Encycopedia of Clipart"

$29.00 in stock and ready to ship.. completely BBS ready!

The MARKetplace!
1-800-289-1ROM
International (314-521-4862)




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From: KENT DYER                              Number: 479
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93 10:29p
Subj: Educational CD                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone out there know of any CD's on the market that can help teach
someone who knows Spanish and very little English the language?  (English 
that is)?  I work with a guy who is willing to buy a PC to help he and his
family to learn English, and I was giving a Demo of Multimedia, and he went
nuts.  That is what he wants, and I told him I'd help him track something 
down.

Thanx!

KD


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 480
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/08/93  6:59a
Subj: Re: CDROM DISTRIBUTORS WA               Refer: 3896
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> TH>We've just gotten an exclusive to distribute a new & interactive a
-> TH>title.  This disc is 100% original - original girls, original film
-> TH>original music, original art, original concept, original everythin
-> TH>Nothing currently available can touch it. The video portions of th
-> TH>disc are 30 frames/second on a 320x200 pixel screen and are less t
-> TH>150 kb/second.  The disc should be ready in about 2 weeks...
->
-> Tim,
-> I'm making a disk that sounds identical to what you have. Can you lea
-> me your phone number (or netmail it to me)? I'd like to talk to you

I think alot of people are :(...I'll try netmail.  My voice number is
404-621-9210.

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 481
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 06/08/93  7:07a
Subj: Catalogue                               Refer: 3905
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Please send your catalogue to;
->
->           Kirk Rawnsley
->           Rules are for Other People

Kirk, don't post multiple "send me a catalog" messages... One such post
should get the job done.

tim
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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 482
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/04/93 11:57p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jim-

 JL> I think the next biggest seller will be Digital Dreams.  It is all
 JL> original scans that are 800x600 or better with no BBS ads.  It has a
 JL> very nice user interface also.

You sure are "plugging" this cd alot. Wouldn't be associated with it in
anyway now would you...? :) Let me know whats so special about this one....

Please add me to your list also. -Thank

604 E. Garden
Freeport, IL 61032

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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 483
  To: SAM FERTITTA                             Date: 06/05/93 12:14a
Subj: Looking for cd's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SF> Now that I have finally gotten a CDRom, I am quite anxious to get
 SF> some used CD's. SOme for dad, some for the kids. The kids would
 SF> like Sherlock Holmes 2, or 3, Mammals, Karyndia(?), Dinosaurs, or
 SF> any others that might come to mind. For dad, well, any xxxx-rated
 SF> cd's out there?

Sam-

Have Mammels I'll sell for $25+ 2.90 for USPS 2'nd day. Can recieve Netmail,
so please reply via netmail if possible. -Thank


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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 484
  To: SCOTT ATKINS                             Date: 06/05/93 12:18a
Subj: mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>SA>The 350 Mitsumi drives can be run off the Aztec Sound Galaxy NX-Pro, or 
>SA>the ATI Stereo F/X Cd sound card. I have either one. The Aztec is $150 
>SA>andthe ATI is $160.

So which one would you recomend for overall performance?-Thank for any input.


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From: BEN LEE                                Number: 485
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  4:12p
Subj: Mitsumi Drivers                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi everyone,

I was wondering if any of you know what's the lastest version of cdrom
drivers for the Mitsumi Lu005s. (350ms , 150kps drive)

                                                        Ben
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From: CHRIS BARRETT                          Number: 486
  To: JERE WESSELL                             Date: 06/05/93  7:40p
Subj: asian ladies                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Bunch of my older stuff before i boight the hp scan jet IIc.

    Just curious, but where did you get the pictures from? Also, what was
involved in finding a CD company to produce it. I now have access to a HP
Scanjet IIc, own a Logitech Color Handscanner, and I would be interested in
producing a CD. Or, at the very least starting to produce adult GIFs for my
BBS. I am worried about violating copyright laws and stuff.

    Maybe you could netmail me with what is involved and any advice?

                                            Chris

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From: CHRIS BARRETT                          Number: 487
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 06/05/93  7:46p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > VGA Spectrum is a Shareware disk with a little bit of everything on
 > it, Everything from .GIF's, to Utilities...

    Just thought I would interject... VGA Spectrum 2 (note: TWO) is NOTHING
like VGA Spectrum 1. I was greatly dissapointed by the fact VGA Spectrum 2
had NO pictures... It did contain a lot of great sound files, and a few
classic shareware games (Apogee stuff).

    Just incase you were thinking of buying the 2nd one, don't unless you
like sound related stuff.

                                                Chris

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 488
  To: RON RICHMOND                             Date: 06/06/93  6:49p
Subj: Re: Cd rom drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Hi Boris, I want to say thanks for the CD Rom drive. It
>>    arrived in good shape 8 days after I ordered. Not bad for
>>    U.S.A. and Canada Post offices. I was very impressed with the
>>    way Texel ( & you) packaged everything to protect it.I'm
>>    listening to a Neal Young CD on the drive, as I type this. How
>>    much would it cost for the cable to connect the back of the CD
>>    Rom drive to my Sound Blaster Pro card ? That is the only
>>    thing I missed with the kit.The CD Rom drive was pretty much
>>    Plug and play. The sound card had a lot of conflicts with my
>>    system. Works now though.   Thanks,       

Ron, gald to hear it !!  The sound cable would be $12. plus shipping,
if your interested, please drop us a note or call us direct and we'll 
be happy to help.

Boris Osadciw

... Xpress Yourself!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 489
  To: NILL TOULME                              Date: 06/06/93  6:49p
Subj: Re: CD SYSTEMS SPECIAL                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Quoting Boris Osadciw's message of 06-01-93 to All, in
>>    pertinent part:

 BO>> Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $14.0
>>                                   ^^^^^^^^^^

>>    Is that really v1?  I think the current version is 1.5.


Yes, the covers are maked 1.0, but the cd's are 1.5. Guess Toolworks didn't
want to spend the money on a reprint.

Boris Osadciw

... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 490
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 06/07/93  1:12a
Subj: Re: can...                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Can somebody give me the price of "Encycopedia of Clipart"

Price $29.   Interested ?? Give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime
and well be happy to help.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Now 100% QWK Compatible! More bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 491
  To: TOM MILLER                               Date: 06/07/93  1:12a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Changer                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Does Any one have a good price on a Pioneer 604x Changer With
>>    The drivers Like to install on my BBS.

>>    Thanks

Sure do !!! We have the DMR-600 priced at $799. and the DMR-604X
priced at $1199. These are bare drive units and come with drivers,
RC Cables, Magazine and Manual.

If your interested, please feel free to give us a call at
216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 492
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/07/93  1:12a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

********* E N C Y C L O P E D I A   O F  C L I P A R T *********
  500+ Megs Pf Pure DTP Power - BBS Ready - Over 11,000 Files
    NO DUPS - Over 30 MEGS Color Art - Plus True Type Fonts
                     Most Files - 92' - 93'
                        Price - $29.00

     This should be the HOTTEST Clipart CD of the year !!
Call 800-243-0517 or for technical information call 216-225-3263
anytime 23.5hrs a day 7 days a week and we'll be glad to assist you.



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Now 100% QWK Compatible! More bang for your bucks!
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From: RICHARD BUNTON                         Number: 493
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/07/93  1:01a
Subj: TOP 5 SHAREWARE CD'S                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS*
**************************************************************************
MS*                    TOP 5 BEST-SELLING SHAREWARE CD'S!
MS*
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Mr. Shannon, Would you please send me one of your catalogs.

Richard Bunton
311 Grand
Belton, Mo. 64012-1432

Richard...
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From: RICHARD KRUGER                         Number: 494
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/04/93  8:15p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Jim, 
Thanks for your prompt reply. Its highly appreciated.
My Address:-

Rand Datasystems Technology CC
P.O Box 6468
Greenhills
South-Africa
1767

I'm interested in all makes of CD Roms and drives available. Please add a
small description if possible. I'm ready to import as from the end of next
week. +/- from (14-06-1993) 
If any other supplier read this message and would like to send me a catalog
and pricelist please do so. Also send me the purchase details like cash 14
days 30 days etc. also bank details for the transfer of funds. I would like
to have your Fax number to fax orders. 
Thank you very much
Keep well
Richard

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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 495
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/07/93  2:16p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Changer                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

thank's for the note will be calling very soon

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From: ROGER COLLINS                          Number: 496
  To: KEN CARPENTER                            Date: 06/07/93  3:35p
Subj: CorelDraw 3.0 CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KC>I am trying to get a good price on CorelDraw 3.0 can anyone help. I ha
KC>Word for Windows/Bookshelf92 if anyone is interested in a trade
KC>otherwise a good price will do fine.

I'd be interested in buying your Word for Windows/Bookshelf CD for cash.
How much you want? You may call me at 614-793-7291 if you'd like.



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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 497
  To: DANG NGUYEN                              Date: 06/06/93 10:18p
Subj: Supplier                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DN>I am interested in pressing a CD and was wondering if you could forward 
  >any info any distrubutors and suppliers.  Any information would really 
  >be appreciated. 
 
Sorry, Dang, but I don't have any contacts that could help you with 
pressing CD's.  Maybe somebody else here can help.  Good luck! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: CURT LARSON                            Number: 498
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/07/93 12:46p
Subj: Need a SCSI CD-ROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking to buy an external, fully daisy-chainable, preferably new SCSI
CD-ROM drive.  Speed is of no essence and I don't necessarily need to
controller.  Please respond here or call (816)229-9530.  Thanks.

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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 499
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/06/93 11:15a
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>BH>Please send me a catalog too.

JL>Sure thing, Brian.  Thanks for your interest!

PLEASE SEND ME A CATALOG TOO!

MIKE PETRO
2803 EMERSON RD
GREENSBORO NC 27405
THANKS...........
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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 500
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/06/93 12:33p
Subj: Re: adult CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

===========================================================================
Packet: ANSWER
Date: 05-27-93 (03:17)             Number: 33
From: BORIS OSADCIW                Refer#: NONE
  To: DEAN SCOTT                    Recvd: NO
Subj: Re: adult CD's                 Conf: (11) CDROM_Sale
>Dean, we carry on of the largest selection of adult titles around.

CAN I ALSO GET A CATALOG
MIKE PETRO
2803 EMERSON RD
GREENSBORO  NC  27405

THANKS...............
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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 501
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/06/93 12:39p
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**** E N C Y C L O P E D I A   O F  C L I P A R T *********
  >  500+ Megs Pf Pure DTP Power - BBS Ready - Over 11,000 Files
  >    NO DUPS - Over 30 MEGS Color Art - Plus True Type Fonts
  >                     Most Files - 92' - 93'
  >                        Price - $20.00

BO>     This should be the HOTTEST Clipart CD of the year !!
  >Call 800-243-0517 or for technical information call 216-225-3263
  >anytime 23.5hrs a day 7 days a week and we'll be glad to assist you.



BO>Boris Osadciw

ARE THE CLIPART IMAGES 300 DPI? I WAS DISAPPOINTED WITH ALL THE 75 DPI
ON CLIPART GOLIATH. AT LEAST IT HAD SOME 300 DPI. ANY WAY I'M
INTERESTED, PLEASE SEND INFO.
        THANKS, MIKE PETRO..............
 þ QMPro 1.01 22-2345 þ Thesaurus: ancient reptile with an excellent
vocabulary


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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 502
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/06/93 12:48p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>DB>Add me to your list please.

JL>You got it, Dennis.  You should see it in the mail real soon.  Thanks
  >for your interest.


I WOULD ALSO LIKE A CATALOG PLEASE.

MIKE PETRO
2803 EMERSON RD
GREENSBORO NC 27405

THANKS........................MP
 þ QMPro 1.01 22-2345 þ Misspelled?  Impossible.  My modem is error
correcting.


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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 503
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 06/06/93  1:03p
Subj: CDROM Retailer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GH>Like many people here, I am also a CDROM retailer.

PLEASE SEND ME A CATALOG. DO YOU HAVE A PCX CLIPART DISK WITH ALL 300
DPI OR BETTER?
              MIKE PETRO
              2803 EMERSON RD
              GREENSBORO NC 27405

THANKS............
 þ QMPro 1.01 22-2345 þ Dogs come when you call. Cats have answering
machines.


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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 504
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  1:13p
Subj: CD CATALOGS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TO ANY AND ALL.

        PLEASE SEND CD CATALOGS INCLUDING ADULT TITLES!
I AM ESPECIALLY INTERESTED IN HIGH QUALITY CLIPART FOR DTP.

SEND TO:
        MIKE PETRO
        2803 EMERSON RD.
        GREENSBORO NC 27405

THANKS...................
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From: STEVE LIN                              Number: 505
  To: REN JUST                                 Date: 06/06/93  7:47p
Subj: LINUX CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > LINUX, a UNIX operating system workalike now available
 > on CD-ROM.  Includes GNU C/C++ compiler, X-Windows,
 > TCP/IP, sound card support and much more.  Only $49.95.

When you say "much more", are you talking about just the basic LINUX setup,
or lots of stuff enough to fill the CD to 600+ Mb?

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From: KAWAI WONG                             Number: 506
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/07/93 12:43p
Subj: Re: CD Specials                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Do you carry Busty Babes and Ecstasy??  If so, how much are they?  Thanks.

... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
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From: MARK SMITKA                            Number: 507
  To: RICK ASHWORTH                            Date: 06/06/93 10:44p
Subj: 7th guest trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Quoting Rick Ashworth's message to Bill Henderson, in pertinent part:

RA}I'll swap you a brand new Bible CD (9 bibles, 20 references..) for T7G

You sound like just the kind of player Trilobyte had in mind when they
created T7G.  :-)


===
 * WinQwk 2.0 a#720 * Just got a new car for my wife... Great trade.

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From: BILL ROPER                             Number: 508
  To: BOB HART                                 Date: 06/07/93  6:20a
Subj: WANTED:CD ROM DRIVE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I am looking for an ext. cd-rom drive; used or new it
-> doesn't matter,and if possible around $200.


I have a Hitachi 1503S external drive that was used on my
bbs.  Replaced by a 1600S.  No scratches, worked fine on
my board for about 6 mos.

No cable, no adapter card.   $120.00.

Bill Roper
903-534-0567 voice


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From: BILL ROPER                             Number: 509
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 06/07/93  6:25a
Subj: GEEZ                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> particular state, depending upon what sort of mail and delivery syste
-> your local net is using.  I expect this echo will cost me about $1.50
-> per month, probably less.  If I couldn't afford this hobby, I wouldn'
-> be in it...

according to my echo billing program, it cost $0.41 for a full
month, so the cost isn't a really big factor, but I too, get
a little irritated when 25 out of 30 messages are "send me a
catalog....".

but then to have the perpetrator of this thread thank each of
the respondents individually, is just a bit too much...

Bill..


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 510
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  7:51p
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 1/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 June 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 6/06
 **************************************************************************
                                   1 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 7th Guest (Wow!)..............55.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...44.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........37.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 American Business Phonebk 1...19.00    Mother of All Clipart (New!)..24.00
 American Business Phonebk 2...28.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Amiga AB20....................16.50    National Business Directory...39.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......27.50    National Parks................32.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....27.50    Night Owl 4.2.................22.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Night Owl 5.0.................23.00
 Audubon's Birds...............27.00    Night Owl 6.1.................24.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............27.00    Night Owl 7.0.................25.00
 Barney Bear School or Space...22.00    Night Owl 8.0.................33.50
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 7/8 2-Pak...........55.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 5/6/7/8 4-Pak.......99.00
 Bible Library.................31.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Bibles & Religion.............16.50    North American Fax Book.......49.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Ocean Digital Imagery.........45.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Original Shareware 1992.......18.00
 Business Master...............20.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...25.00
 C User's Group Library........31.50    Our Solar System..............16.50
 California Collection.........17.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....33.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    PC-SIG #10....................28.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-SIG #12....................30.00
 CD-PowerBox...................23.00    PC Gameroom...................28.50
 CD-ROM Grab Bag (4 CD's)......29.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CD Grab Bag (1 CD)............19.00    Phoenix 3.0...................21.50
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Pier 1........................29.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........24.00    Pier 2 (In stock!)............45.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....54.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (New!)......28.00
 Clipart Galore................32.50    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........128.00
 Clipart Goliath...............16.50    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........29.00    Programmer's MegaPack (New!)..34.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............16.50    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Complete Bookshop.............16.50    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Composer Quest................38.50    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Compton's Interactive Ency...109.00    Publisher's Paradise (New!)...35.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....79.00    Reader's Library..............32.50
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....79.00    Reference Library.............27.50
 Conan the Cimmerian...........35.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....38.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....39.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...43.00
 Crossword Cracker.............24.50    Sci-Fi (GIF's & Sound)........28.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! I...........20.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......25.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! II..........25.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...28.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......16.50    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Shareware 1993 (Closeout).....18.00
 Desktop Bookshop (New!).......28.50    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Dictionaries & Languages......16.50    Shareware Online (All 1992)...29.00
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Shareware Overload............16.50
 Dinosaur Adventure............34.00    Shareware Studio I............21.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Studio II (New!)....27.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 511
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  7:51p
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 2/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 June 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 6/06
 **************************************************************************
                                   2 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Empire Clipart................29.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...25.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......28.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound (New!)..22.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    So Much Shareware I...........22.50
 Font Master I.................19.00    So Much Shareware II..........29.50
 Font Master II................28.00    Software Vault I..............25.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    Software Vault II (New!)......29.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    Sound Sensations..............16.50
 Front Page News...............26.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Game Master...................20.00    SoundWAV (New!)...............29.00
 Game Pack II..................27.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Games 1993 (New!).............28.00    Space Quest IV................25.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    Sporting News.................26.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................25.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Global Explorer (New!)........97.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Street Atlas USA..............88.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Super CD......................25.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Super CD II (New!)............29.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Super Games For Windows.......18.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...27.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........37.50
 Hacker Chronicles.............27.00    Technotools...................16.50
 Ham Radio 3.0.................16.50    Tempra Access Photo Software..32.50
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 House of Games................29.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Illustrated Holy Bible........49.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Too Many Typefonts............16.50
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Toolworks Ill. Ency. 2.0......39.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Toolworks MM Ency. 5.0........49.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Toolworks MPC Ency. 1.0.......49.00
 Jets & Props..................31.50    Total Baseball................35.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. & World Atlas............29.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 King's Quest V................25.00    VGA Spectrum I................17.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    VGA Spectrum II...............25.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    Visions of Saturn (New!)......25.00
 Library of the Future #1......54.50    Vital Signs...................39.00
 Lion's Share..................28.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Loom..........................25.00    Window Master.................20.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........39.00    Windoware.....................16.50
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Windows 1993..................28.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Windows Shareware Gold........37.00
 Magnum One Shareware..........29.00    Wing Commander II Deluxe......58.00
 Manhole.......................37.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Marketing Master 1992.........19.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......25.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    WizPak........................17.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............35.00    World Atlas MPC...............29.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......58.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Microsoft Works MPC...........58.00    World Traveler (New!).........19.00
 MIDI Music Shop...............32.00    World View....................24.00
 Mixed Up Mother Goose.........24.50    World Vision 3-Pak (New!).....47.00
 Monarch Notes.................64.00    Wrath of the Demon............38.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 512
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  7:51p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE$                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 June 1993                ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST         Last update: 6/06
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------

 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    Porkware II (New!)............37.00
 Animation Fantasies I.........30.00    Private Collection I..........35.00
 Animation Fantasies II........30.00    Private Collection II.........35.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Busty Babes...................33.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics I............33.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Erotic Encounters.............36.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Giffy Gold ("R"-rated)........39.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........59.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......28.00    Seymore Butts Interactive.....65.00
 Moving Fantasies..............30.00    Smutware......................32.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....65.00    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Nightwatch Interactive (Wow!).65.00    Storm I.......................25.00
 Nix Pix Hot Pix 2.............34.50    Storm II......................30.00
 Nix Pix Hot Pix 3.............34.50    Storm III.....................31.00
 Nix Pix Hot Pix 4.............34.50    Storm 3-Pak...................75.00
 PC-PIX 1......................33.00    Swimwear & More (New!)........29.00
 PC-PIX 2......................33.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 PC-PIX 3......................33.00    Tropical Girls (Closeout).....25.00
 PC-PIX 3-Pak..................89.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 Physical Therapy..............22.50    Volcano.......................36.00
 Porkware......................37.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

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 Find a better advertised price?  Call us LAST, and we'll save you some $$$
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

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 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 513
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  7:51p
Subj: SHAREWARE CD COMPARISONS                Refer: NONE
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------------------------------------------------------------------------
                SHAREWARE CD-ROM DUPLICATION COMPARISONS
------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.0

PR1 = PIER1                PR2 = PIER2                 NO7 = NIGHT OWL 7
SS1 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 1   SS2 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 2    NO8 = NIGHT OWL 8
SC2 = SUPER CD 2           SV1 = SOFTWARE VAULT        CDP = CD POWERBOX
SWO = SHAREWARE ONLINE     MON = MONSTER DISC

           % OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
          ---------------------------------------------------
     PR1   PR2   NO7   NO8   SS1   SS2   MON   SC2   SV1   CDP   SWO
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
PR1| .06%| .23%| 1.8%| 6.5%| 3.2%| 7.2%| 7.6%| 6.5%| .70%| 2.1%| 4.5%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
PR2| .23%| .00%| .09%| .43%| .34%| 2.5%| 1.7%| .85%| .40%| .18%| .19%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
NO7| 1.8%| .09%| .06%| .57%| 5.0%| 7.4%|34.0%| 9.9%| 1.2%|77.3%| 7.0%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
NO8| 6.5%| .43%| .57%| .24%| 1.4%| 7.0%| 4.9%|46.3%| 1.0%| .89%| 1.8%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SS1| 3.2%| .34%| 5.0%| 1.4%| .15%| .16%| 7.6%| 3.4%| 2.3%| 7.3%| 7.4%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SS2| 7.2%| 2.5%| 7.4%| 7.0%| .16%| .01%|14.8%|11.3%| 4.7%| 7.2%| 7.1%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
MON| 7.6%| 1.7%|34.0%| 4.9%| 7.6%|14.8%| .91%|15.4%| .54%|24.2%|19.1%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SC2| 6.5%| .85%| 9.9%|46.3%| 3.4%|11.3%|15.4%| 1.3%| .70%| 9.0%| 2.9%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SV1| .70%| .40%| 1.2%| 1.0%| 2.3%| 4.7%| .54%| .70%| 2.6%| 3.3%| 1.1%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
CDP| 2.1%| .18%|77.3%| .89%| 7.3%| 7.2%|24.2%| 9.0%| 3.3%| .23%| 7.0%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SWO| 4.5%| .19%| 7.0%| 1.8%| 7.4%| 7.1%|19.1%| 2.9%| 1.1%| 7.0%| .84%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+

        PRICES
        ------
        PIER 1..............29.00      PIER 2..............45.00
        NIGHT OWL 7.........25.00      NIGHT OWL 8.........33.50
        SHAREWARE STUDIO 1..21.00      SHAREWARE STUDIO 2..27.00
        MONSTER DISC 2-PAK..44.00      SUPER CD 2..........29.00
        SOFTWARE VAULT......26.00      CD POWERBOX.........23.00
        SHAREWARE ONLINE....29.00

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Find a better advertised price?  Call us LAST, and we'll save you some $$$
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 514
  To: JASON BUCHANON                           Date: 06/06/93  7:51p
Subj: CD Powerbox disc                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JB>Hey Mike!

JB>Thanks for sending that powerbox disc so fast!!!  Your right......... it
is a
JB>good disc!  I was wondering though, why is this disc so much cheaper than
the
JB>night owl while its so much higher quality?

JB>Somewere i was reading about a new disc called "cream'n your jeans" or
"cream
JB>of the crop" or something like that.... do you know anything about it? 
How
JB>mych is it?  Is it worth the money?

Jason,

Thanks very much for the order.  I'm glad you like it;  CD Powerbox is among
our best-selling shareware CD's.  Look for the new CD Winbox soon.  It will
most likely be the best Windows CD to ever come out!  Should have them any
day now.  Sorry, I haven't heard anything about the other CD you mentioned.
"Cream'n your jeans" huh?  Must be a new adult title. <g>

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 515
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/06/93  7:51p
Subj: Message                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>Mike:

BJ>the message you said you sent. On the other hand, I read this echo from
two
BJ>different BBSes and they never seem to have exactly the same new messages
in
BJ>them, so maybe your message went into some electronic gazooland. Gimme a
BJ>shout if you ever recover to the point where we can proceed. Cheers!

Yeah, sorry about that Bob.  I've been uploading to a local board here in
Yakima (not the blank-generating board).  Anyway, his board is prone to
locking up, and lots of my messages haven't been exported lately.  I'm
going back to Dave Reed's board until they get the problems worked out.
Dave's board is much more reliable.  Yes, if and when I get more of those
critters in, I'll be sure to send you one for review.

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: SHELDON KOEHLER                        Number: 516
  To: TYLER A. WUNDER                          Date: 06/06/93 12:00a
Subj: CD-ROMS FROM WITHIN I                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TAW> BJ>> Since a standard audio CD can only hold about 60-65 minutes of
music,

TAW> PO> Actually 74 minutes.

TAW>     Are you sure?  I just picked up the Jethro Tull 25th Anniversary
Boxed
   >set, and I would swear one of the disks is in the high side of the
seventie

TAW>     Yep.  Just slipped disk four in and it's 77:45.  I think I have a
few
   >others of similar length, as well.

I was under the impression that audio CD's were a maximum of 79:59. I
may be wrong...

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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 517
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/06/93  1:47p
Subj: Re: I am looking...                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> >>    I am looking for a cdrom that has clipart that I could use
-> >>    with my word processors and dtp programs
->
->
-> >>    sincerely
->
-> Vito, we have several of them as well as the NEW "Encyc Of Clipart",
-> is a bbs ready cd. If your interested, please feel free to give us a
-> at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist you further.
->
-> Boris Osadciw
->
-> ... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
-> --- FMail 0.94
->  * Origin: Buggie Works - The CD-ROM Outlet (216)225-6130 (1:157/46)

I'll do that


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From: JOHN DECARLO                           Number: 518
  To: ANDY YEE                                 Date: 06/07/93  6:59p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On <Jun 04 22:37>, Andy Yee (1:134/2001) wrote:

 AY >intersted in selling Fao?

Yup.

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From: RICHARD BUNTON                         Number: 519
  To:  JIM LAMBERT                             Date: 06/07/93  9:48a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL*Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer
  *Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address,
 
*****************************************************************************

Please send me one of your catalogs.

Richard Bunton
311 Grand
Belton, Mo. 64012-1432

Richard...
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From: RICHARD BUNTON                         Number: 520
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/07/93  9:52a
Subj: Re: CD SYSTEMS SPECIAL                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

********  Original Msg. From: BORIS OSADCIW   To: NILL TOULME    *******

BO* Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $14.0
 
*****************************************************************************

NT* Is that really v1?  I think the current version is 1.5.
 
*****************************************************************************

BO* Yes, the covers are maked 1.0, but the cd's are 1.5. Guess Toolworks
didn't
BO* want to spend the money on a reprint.
BO*
BO* Boris Osadciw
 
*****************************************************************************

Boris,

I might be interested in the above disk, (Groiliers Encyc $50.00).
DOS Version.

Also...Do you have the new movie disk, (movie Mania or something
like that), with reviews of over 15,000 movies. If so, what is the
price...??? DOS Version.

What would be the shipping price for both disks...??? for one disk...???

Also I would like one of your catalogs.

Richard Bunton
311 Grand
Belton, Mo. 64012-1432

Thanks a MEG.

         * ***** *** **** **  **  ****  ***** *****
      <*\  ****  *  *     ****   ****   ****  *  *
       >\  ** ** *** **** **  ** **  ** ** ** *****   PAX...

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From: RICHARD BUNTON                         Number: 521
  To:  GABE HOWARD                             Date: 06/07/93 10:07a
Subj: CDROM RETAILER                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GH*If you would like a catalog of over 400 CDROM titles.....
 
*****************************************************************************

Please send me one of your catalogs.

Richard Bunton
311 Grand
Belton, Mo. 64012-1432

Thanks a MEG.

         * ***** *** **** **  **  ****  ***** *****
      <*\  ****  *  *     ****   ****   ****  *  *
       >\  ** ** *** **** **  ** **  ** ** ** *****   PAX...

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From: BRYNE BOTTOMS                          Number: 522
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/07/93 12:42a
Subj: catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jim, I would like a catalog sent to me at the following address:
Bryne Bottoms
D 5018 43st
Red Deer, AB, Canada
T4n 5J4
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From: BRYNE BOTTOMS                          Number: 523
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 06/07/93 12:43a
Subj: catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Gabe, I would like to recieve your catalog.
Bryne Bottoms
D 5018 43st
Red Deer, AB, Canada
T4N 5J4                  Thanks
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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 524
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 06/07/93 12:01a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

In a message of <02 Jun 93  21:41:01>, Michael Benge (1:133/716) writes:
 >> I have Giffy Gold,
 >I have Physical Therapy, volume 3, an almost exact duplicate of XXX 
 > Interested?
No, I have had Extreme, Thanks though!


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 525
  To: PAUL JANEL                               Date: 06/07/93 10:56a
Subj: 7th guest trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <03 Jun 93  14:40:00>, Paul Janel (1:2613/220) writes:
 >Hi, what is 7TH Guest?
7th Guest is THE CD-Rom game of all time (so far). It is full of video,
sound effects. Actors were hired to do the acting on the Cd. It's supposed to
be one hell of a game where they went all out and took advantage of the
capacity of a Cd. Orchestrated music, etc. This game is supposedly a reason
to buy a Cd-Rom machine. 
 >Is it a shareWare cd?
Far from it. It costs at least around $50.


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 526
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/07/93 11:01a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <02 Jun 93  06:41:00>, Terry Woodward (1:369/14) writes:
 >ARL is just another Adult Gif disk. It has more 800x660 pics than some
 >others. I've sort of got it reserved for Bob Jackson.
 >I'd like to get your Giffy Gold. I'll be delighted to send you
 >the PC-Pix, volume 2. Leave me an address or go ahead and send the Giffy
 >Gold disk. My address is:
OK, well, Giffy Gold is on its way to you via 3rd class mail. I would
appreciate you sending Pc-Pix immediately to Ryan Denke, 5030 E. 19th,
Casper, Wy 82609. Thanks!


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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 527
  To: CAMERON SLYE                             Date: 06/07/93 10:29a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MB> I have Physical Therapy, volume 3, an almost exact duplicate of XXX
 MB> Extreme that I would trade for the above.  I  bought this one at
 MB> comdex, and did not realize it duplicated extreme, so it is in perfect
 MB> condition.  Interested?

    CS>If you were to seel it, how much?

Not sure.  Prices have dropped so much recently, think I would rather trade
it that sell it and try to buy something else.

 * MKRead v1.01 * Shell to Dos...Come in Dos...Do you copy?


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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 528
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 06/07/93  6:31a
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MW> You think the case/power supply and cables are  free??  I  would
 MW> love to have and  external case/power supply and cable  set  for
 MW> $20, it is a good deal.
Terry this was my part of the message, I was not ragging on you about your
prices, it was someone else and I was replying that they overlooked something
in the calculations that had typed in. No sense in tearing up somebody that
is defending you dude..

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From: JIM CLEMENTS                           Number: 529
  To: JOHN HUGHES                              Date: 06/07/93  5:53a
Subj: OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JH>JC>The OED II at about $895 U.S. is one disc. There was an earlier
two-disc
JH>  >DOS version (only the original OED, none of them OED II updates). If
you
JH>  >are going to spend that kind of money, make sure you are getting the
OED
JH>  >II. Cheers!

JH>Thanks for your nice reply, but I didn't send the question.  Puzzling ?

Well, John, I'm working with a still-new (to me) off-line reader and
that could be the problem. Or I could have just screwed up -- again.
At any rate, thank you for your nice reply and I hope whoever was asking
got the info. Cheers!
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From: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                      Number: 530
  To: DAN WAGNER                               Date: 06/07/93  5:21p
Subj: Re: THE 7TH GUEST.                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Dan, 

        I already beat the game and discovered that the game's ending is
incredible, Actually the best game I've ever played!!! Back to your friend on
the stone puzzle. He needs to select the stones that contain one color and
make it to the other side. Hope I helped a little. And with the microscope, I
was disappointed when I ran into this one because it's not really a puzzle
it's actually another game of strategy. There isn't really a way to help on
this one. The only thing I can tell you is to practice and find some
strategy. That's how I did it. Also tell your friend not to skip any puzzles
or else he or she will not be able to see the ending. (it's great!) Need
anymore advice, feel free to write back. I'm glad someone decided to write
back. L8Tr!!!

                                                Jerry Gerolymatos
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 531
  To: ROBERT DU GAUE                           Date: 06/07/93  5:25a
Subj: Re: RE: CD-Rom Changer ?                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 03 Jun 93  08:57:09, I heard Robert Du Gaue shout to Kevin Plummer:

On 03 Jun 93  08:57:09, I heard Robert Du Gaue shout to Kevin Plummer:

RD>  KP>Can anyone tell me where I can get a CD-Rom Changer ?  I think thats 
RD>  KP>basically what they are, You can place about 6-8 CD's in it, and
access
RD>  KP>them all at any given time ??  Any help would be helpful, I seen One
at
RD>  KP>HamFest in Indy, and would like to find another.
RD> 
RD> I got a Pioneer 6-disk DRM-600 from Dirt Cheap Drives in Computer
RD> Shopper for $829.
RD> 
RD> It's the slower model, but for a BBS I don't think it makes a big
RD> difference, since the software (which I wrote) uses HD catalogs and
RD> stages all xfers to an HD/RAM parition.

Do you remember who in the shopper had them ??  I seen a Pioneer for $600 at
a
Ham fest, and Now I wish I would have gotten it.  
              Thanks !!


                             .......|<evin

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From: STEVE HOLSTEIN                         Number: 532
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  1:02p
Subj: cache                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       Hi, I was wondering if CD-Speedway and all the other CD cache programs
work equally well?

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 533
  To: PHILIP CANTERBURY NORMAN BATES           Date: 06/07/93 11:17a
Subj: Re: CD disk resellers                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <06-05-93 02:20> Philip Canterbury Norman Bates wrote:

PC>>  I would like to get some infomation on becoming a cd rom distior or
PC>> reseller.

Call TradeSHows at 317-651-1223 and they will help you get started--They have
over 500 dealers that they supply.

All the Best,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 534
  To: MIKE PETRO                               Date: 06/09/93  9:02a
Subj: CDROM Retailer                          Refer: 3945
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> THANKS............

Mike, don't post multiple "send me a catalog" messages... Only do so
once.

tim
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 535
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  8:53a
Subj: CD-ROM Extravaganza!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-=ATTENTION=-   -=ATTENTION=-   -=ATTENTION=-   -=ATTENTION=- 
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ 
 
                       PERKE INDUSTRIES 
                         602-898-3669 
                       VISA/MC Accpeted! 
                       (No Extra Charge) 
 
        Now has the following GRAND OPENING specials! 
        --------------------------------------------- 
 
Mitsumi CD-ROM: This is the PREMIER economic CD-ROM player!  Features 
350ms speed, Kodak CD compliant and comes with adapter card and all 
cabling.  Check out this price................................$185.00 
 
                   -= Shareware Studio 2 =- 
 
Release number 2 of a shareware disk that would run GREAT with the 
above drive!  Newly pressed in May 1993!! 
                     Unit Price.................................$15.00 
                     Price with the Mitsumi.....................$10.00 
 
                    -= CD PowerBox 1.01 =- 
 
Slated to be the new industry standard, the PowerBox is over 650 megs 
of shareware!  This disk actually has BOTH a Windows-based and a 
DOS-based Graphical User Interface!  Forget the Nightowl series, the 
PowerBox offers an affordable option.  (For an AWSOME combo, try the 
PowerBox WITH the Shareware Studio!) 
                    Unit Price.................................$15.00 
                    Price with the Mitsumi.....................$10.00 
 
                       -= CD WinBox 1 =- 
 
This is THE Windows disk available today!  Supporting Win3.x AND the 
new Windows NT, the WinBox has over 630 Megs of pure Windows 
shareware.  Use the Windows based installation program to quickly 
start accessing this disk with its Windows Graphical Interface! 
                    Unit Price.................................$24.95 
                    Price with the Mitsumi.....................$10.00 
 
VISA/MC accepted with NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE!  We also offer complete 
turnkey computers - call for pricing! 
 
 
 * OLX 2.1 TD * Your CD-ROM source for the 90's! 
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 536
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  8:58a
Subj: CD-ROM Extravaganza!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                        PERKE INDUSTRIES 
                          602-898-3669 
                        VISA/MC Accepted! 
                        (No Extra Charge) 
 
Hardware 
-------- 
Mitsumi (350ms/Card & Cables Inc.).................$185.00 
When you buy the Mitsumi you will be entitled to a CD-ROM 
bonus price.  Please call for this month's bonus disk(s). 
 
Shareware 
--------- 
CD PowerBox 1.01....................................$19.95 
CD WinBox 1.00......................................$24.95 
    (BRAND NEW - JUST RELEASED JUNE 7, 1993!) 
Shareware Studio 2.00...............................$19.95 
Shareware Concept...................................$15.95 
SMC 14,000 Shareware................................$15.95 
 
Entertainment 
------------- 
Interplay's Battle Chess............................$21.95 
ICOM Sherlock Holmes................................$21.95 
Beauty and the Beast................................$21.95 
Sleeping Beauty.....................................$21.95 
Mantis Exp. Fighter.................................$21.95 
CMC Sherlock........................................$21.95 
Mario is Missing....................................$25.95 
CD Game Pack II.....................................$23.95 
ChessMaster 3000....................................$25.95 
Loom................................................$31.95 
Monkey Island.......................................$31.95 
Secret Weapons Luftwaffe............................$31.95 
Wing Commander......................................$31.95 
CMC Beyond Wall of Stars............................$31.95 
 
Sound 
----- 
Killer Tracks (music)...............................$15.95 
SFX-300 Sound Effects...............................$15.95 
501 Sound Wave #1...................................$15.95 
Music Traks Pro (music).............................$21.95 
 
Graphics/DTP 
------------ 
Kodak Photo-CD Access...............................$21.95 
Publish It!.........................................$31.95 
 
Adult CD 
-------- 
After Dark..........................................$25.95 
Oriental Garden.....................................$40.95 
 
 
 * OLX 2.1 TD * Your CD-ROM source for the 90's! 
- JetMail v1.12 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire
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From: SCOTT ELMORE                           Number: 537
  To: GREGORY YERXA                            Date: 06/08/93  3:15a
Subj: Cds                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GY >    What is the Phoenix one?

    It is I believe a 650 megh shareware disk.... Price: $20.00

                                    --Scott

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From: MARK STAYT                             Number: 538
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/05/93  2:40p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Jim!

Monday May 31 1993, Jim Lambert writes to All:

 JL> Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer
 JL> Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address, and we'd be
 JL> glad to get one right out to you.  Thanks!

Ok here goes,

Mark Stayt
Advanced Support Services
P.O. Box 5691
Weltevreden Park
1715
South Africa

Regards
Mark

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From: FRANSCOIS JOOSTE                       Number: 539
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 05/27/93 10:54p
Subj: ORDER PLACED                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>Boris Osadciw

BO>... What is OS/2 in Spanish - dos DOS?
BO>--- FMail 0.94 BO> * Origin:
Buggie Works - CD-ROM'S International (216)225-6130 (1:157/46)

Boris,I don't know if you remember the order I placed with you ,but up
till now I have not recieved anything yet ! (a month so far)

I'll appreciate it if you could Fax me the shipping details and date etc
so that I can look into it from this side.
Fax to Active Systems 27-2231-71829

Thanx

Franscois
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From: FRANSCOIS JOOSTE                       Number: 540
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/07/93 12:43a
Subj: ORDER                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>Boris Osadciw

BO>... Who Killed Superman?
BO>--- FMail 0.94
BO> * Origin: Buggie Works - CD-ROM'S International (216)225-6130 (1:157/46)

Boris,

I'll apprecaite it if you could check up on my order placed (and paid
for) more than a month ago, and let me know asap !

Overseas post does not take that long (I even paid for express
delivery) and newer Shareware CD's are already available.

Thanx

Franscois
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From: SABINE VAN DEN AUDENAERDE              Number: 541
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/04/93  9:04a
Subj: Is this "service" ???                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike,

My guess is that you are not at all interested in overseas customers ... not
even with a VISA-card! I've been waiting over two weeks now for a
netmail-reply ...

How else could one explain that you did not reply to my netmail inquiring on
prices INCLUDING SHIPPING AND HANDLING and IMPORT-fees to Belgium. This adds
to the costs and I would like to know how much more it will cost me !!!

Nor did you reply to a FAX-message of Nancy Verbrugghe, Coming Out!-BBS, who
was informing on sysop-deals and almost ready to order!

I think it's time that Mark Abbacchi and Karen give us some more quotes on
prices ... They do appreciate overseas customers.

What's the matter with you ... had enough of earning some cash? You sure
don't seem very trustful to order some goods of. If you can't answer to our
enquiries now .. how long will it take then to send us the CDROMS, huh
??????? Got an answer for this?

TO ALL DEALERS WHO WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH CUSTOMERS IN BELGIUM and give
sysopdeals, pleeze send me a message, preferable netmail. I have VISA. And
I'm a sucker for good CDROM-deals ;) Looking at the moment for a package deal
on Pier1+2 & Night Owls 8 ... and maybe Busty Babes ... I need to know all
extra costs you will bill for S/H and export-rights before I order ... I
think Mike charges about 89 US$ for this tri-pack without S/H etc. Anyone?
And who ships with DHL ?

I will gladly inform our belgian CDROM.B area of your prices, and maybe we
could organize a group-order ... I've taken it on me to promote CDROM in our
Belgian CDROM.b area ... I'm also very active at reviewing the latest CDROMS
in our local CDROM-area!

No greetz to ya, Mike! Lotta words but poor action if you ask me!

Sabine Van den Audenaerde
Co-Sysop of The Last Picture Show
Co-Sysop of Coming Out!

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From: JOSH BERRY                             Number: 542
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 06/07/93  9:27p
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to Joseph Thomas, Jim Reed said:
JR> JT> JR>      in doing this.  BTW it does require unplugging the speakers
JR> from
JR> JT> JR>      the Soundblaster and plugging into the drive, but if this is
JR> reall
JR> JT> JR>      problem free I may buy a second set of speakers.
JR> JT> JR>                                 /JIM/
JR> JT>                  Are you saying, just pluging speaker to the
JR> JT>         controller card, we can play cd ? Jim, pl. give us more
JR> JT>         Tnx.

JR> Hi Joseph;
JR>         My drive (Internal) has a headset jack on the front. 
JR> I unplug
JR>         the speakers from the SB and plug them into the
JR> front of the
JR>         drive itself.  The speakers are very inexpensive
JR> KOSS powered
JR>         stero speakers.  I don't remember how much I paid
JR> for them but
JR>         think it was around $40.  I set the speaker volume
JR> control about
JR>         mid range and use the volume control on the front of
JR> the drive.
JR>         The PLAYCD utility has a full set of standard
JR> playback controls
JR>         i.e. stop, pause, play, back-a-track, fwd-a-track,
JR> and a few
JR>         others.  Only conflict I have run into so far is
JR> that when I
JR>         start an upload it turns off the music, real strange
JR> since when
JR>         I download it remains playing.  That's about
JR> everything I know
JR>         about it.  There is a small section in the manual
JR> that describes
JR>         it but then who reads manuals.
JR>                                 /JIM/

JR> --- FidoPCB v1.3 [NR]
JR>  * Origin: The GIFfer in Tampa, FL USA (813)969-1089 USR
JR> 16.8DS (1:377/50)
        If you have a Sound Blaster Pro or better you can look on the back
of you cd drive for a space that reads something like audio out (I can't
remember what it says), after you find that look on you soundblaster card
for a CD IN it is kind of small ÚÄÄÄÄ¿ about that small
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ>ÀÄÄÄÄÙ. Sorry about the grammer
on the last section there I couldn't remember the keys for the lines. Well,
that's it for now:) whoops forgot the rest. Once you find the two areas I
just mentioned connect them with a cable and bravo you have cd audio. If you
do it the above way you can record samples off of CD's too. Well, that it
for now. Later...
                                        Josh
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From: JOSH BERRY                             Number: 543
  To: SAM FERTITTA                             Date: 06/07/93  9:31p
Subj: 7th guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to All, Sam Fertitta said:
SF> Now that I have finally gotten a CDRom, I am quite anxious
SF> to get some used CD's. SOme for dad, some for the kids. The
SF> kids would like Sherlock Holmes 2, or 3, Mammals,
SF> Karyndia(?), Dinosaurs, or any others that might come to
SF> mind. For dad, well, any xxxx-rated cd's out there?

        You might like to get The Seventh Guest, your kids might not like it
but it is the most impressive game out right now.  later...
                                                Josh
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From: JOSH BERRY                             Number: 544
  To: CRAIG LARSEN                             Date: 06/07/93  9:36p
Subj: Will it work on SBPRO?                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to All, Craig Larsen said:
CL>                                 Multimedia Kit


CL>    * Talon Internal CD ROM Drive
CL>       --- Made by Texel  This is the same drive NEC uses for
CL> their 84J Model
CL>       --- Photo CD Compatible
CL>       --- 64k Buffer
CL>       --- Multispin
CL>       --- 280ms CD ROM
CL>       --- 300k Transfer Rate

CL>    * SoundBlaster Pro Compatible Board

CL>    * Amplified Stereo Speaker Set

CL>    * Headphones

CL>    * Installation Guide

CL>    * CD ROM Titles included:

CL>       Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
CL>       Software Jukebox
CL>       Guinness Disc of Records
CL>       The Animals
CL>       National Parks Guide
CL>       Sherlock Holmes
CL>       Mayo Clinic Health Guide


CL>                        All for $649 Including Shipping !

CL>                       First Three Customers get $10 off !


CL> Call 1-800-473-8330  (voice 24 hours)  Leave a message
CL> w/your voice #.

        I assume that you can use these with an existing Sound Blaster card.
I have the upgrade kit but can't stand how slow the CD that came with it is.
later...
                                        Josh
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 545
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/07/93  8:39p
Subj: BUSTY BOX INSERTS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Did you get my message about needing 2-3 BB jewel box inserts? I need 
just the paper inserts, not the boxes or the contents - I have both <G>. 
If you're able, pop 'em in an envelope and send to the address you have 
on file for me. <G> <G> <G> !!! 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 546
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/07/93  8:29p
Subj:  Florida Lion's Den In In               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> I am in love with the CHINON 535 series ROM drive--I want one, N  
 LN> The hell with Texel drives....                                    
                                                                       
  
Ooooooooooh! Tell me more. I was sorta saving up for a fast Texel 'cuz 
the word on the street is they're the cat's moew. Are you saying the 
Chinon machine is better/faster/??? 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 547
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/07/93  8:35p
Subj: SHAREWARE CD COMPARISONS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> ----------------------------------------------------------------  
 MS>                SHAREWARE CD-ROM DUPLICATION COMPARISONS           
 MS> ----------------------------------------------------------------  
                                                                       
  
Great job, Mike! (Even if the figures are a bit suspect - shouldn't the 
diagonal be either 100% or "N/A" or something besides what it shows?) 
You've given some real added value to the shareware CD buyers! 
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From: GEORGE MAYS                            Number: 548
  To: JOHN HUGHES                              Date: 06/07/93 10:02p
Subj: Re: Oxford english dictionary           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Thanks for your nice reply, but I didn't send the question.
 >  Puzzling ?
 >
 
You are probably seeing messages from someone else with your name. 
 Refer to the Origins line to determine where the message originated, 
and if it did not originate at your node or point, ignore it. 

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From: JOHN DECARLO                           Number: 549
  To: ANDY YEE                                 Date: 06/07/93  9:59p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On <Jun 04 22:37>, Andy Yee (1:134/2001) wrote:

 AY >intersted in selling Fao?

Yes, sale or trade.  Make an offer.

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From: BOB SPILLERS                           Number: 550
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/07/93  6:55p
Subj: Need To Know                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I want to get involved in CD ROM. What I need to know is what I need to
get started. I have a 386-40 with a 256 MB hard drive and 4 MB ram. From
what I've observed on this echo I think I will need a Sound Board,
Speakers, and a drive. Is this correct or do I need other things? If
someone could set me straight on this and give me a ballpark figure on
costs, it would be appreciated. Should I get internal or external and
what are the advantages or disadvantage of the two? The CD ROM would be
for personal entertainment only and not for business. I have a 5 1/4 bay
open if it would be better to get and internal.

                                        ITKU  RwS

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From: KATHI WEBSTER                          Number: 551
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93 12:50a
Subj: New board online                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The Godfather BBS is now echoing this conference.


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 552
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93 10:27a
Subj: CD-ROMS, CHEAP                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Fellow BBS'ers
I have recently purchased a group of "very good condition" used
Hitachi CDR 1503S external CD-ROM drives. I have checked each unit
and refurbished them as needed (which was very little).  I am
offering some of these drives for sale for a unbelievable price.
These units work excellent for BBS systems, and as stand alone
units for home use. I have used 3 of these refurished drives for
the past 2 years, and have NEVER had a failure!
These drives are not high speed, so they are not suited for
use with the new CD-ROM game packages, which must use a 350ms
access time or better.
If you are interested in one or more of these drives, please
contact me at my BBS listed below. I know you can find NO deal close
to what I am offering, so they will be first come, first serve
basis only. Please note the following specifications for the drives,
and that the are warrantied for 30 days by me, for cash refund,
repair of the unit, or replacement with another but please remember
that I am not in business of selling these drives, however, I feel
that they are such a good buy, why not offer them to others
SysOp's.

I have received another 10 drives in good to excellent condition.
Hitachi CDR 1503S (CADDYLESS) external CD-ROM drives. Please note
that up to four of these drives can be daisy chained (as I use them)
together to create one massive file collection.

Prices:
Bare drive, no controller, or cable............$106.00
SCSI proprietary controller card................$71.00 (8 bit card)
Cable for drive.................................$18.00
All price are plus tax and shipping! And include manual,
drivers, and software installation instructions.

If you are interested, I would suggest contacting me immediately
at our BBS, because quanities are limited!
Matt Bedtelyon - SysOp
MEG*A*BITE BBS (WildCat! all the way!)
P.O. Box 21
Essexville, MI 48732-0021
517-892-5042, 2400 baud
517-892-5079, 14.4 USR
Fido Node 1:239/675


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 553
  To: BRANDAN UPSON                            Date: 06/06/93  1:56p
Subj: Hard drive                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I am wanting to trade anyone a brand new 170MB Hard drive for an
-> internal CD Rom drive. If interested, post back or call (913)383-9442

I have a internal Hitachi which I would be willing to trade if you are
interested.  Fido 1:239/675
Matt Bedtelyon
SysOp - MEG*A*BITE BBS
Essexville, MI


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 554
  To: KURT ANNO                                Date: 06/06/93  9:09p
Subj: Used CD-Rom                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I am looking for a good used CD-Rom or a cheap new one.

Hi Kurt,
I have some used Hitachi 1503S externals for sale.  My BBS number is
(517) 892-5079, 14.4.  They have worked well for me for the past 2
years. They are not fast, but they are not expensive either!
Matt Bedtelyon
SysOp - MEG*A*BITE BBS
Essexville, MI


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 555
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 06/06/93  9:13p
Subj: Hitachi CDROM drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hi all!  I need to know if rumors I have heard are true.
->
-> 1) 1 Hitachi CDROM proprietary controller handles 4 Hitachi Drives
->
-> 2) You can have 4 Hitachi controllers in the same machine giving you
-> CDROM drives.......

Hi James,
I sell used Hitachi, and that is true. I have someone running 8 drives
on one system with 2 cards and it works great.  We sell the Todd
Enterprizes interface cards, and they are configurable.
Let me know if you need some drives or controller cards.
Matt Bedtelyon
SysOp - MEG*A*BITE BBS
Essexville, MI (517) 892-5042 2400
               (517) 892-5079 14.4
Fido 1:239/675


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From: RON GAGE                               Number: 556
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 06/06/93 10:51p
Subj: Hitachi cdrom drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hi all!  I need to know if rumors I have heard are true.
->
-> 1) 1 Hitachi CDROM proprietary controller handles 4 Hitachi Drives
-> 2) You can have 4 Hitachi controllers in the same machine giving you
-> 16 CDROM drives.......

The controller for the CDR-3600u can handle 8 drives by itself.  It is also
fully backwards compatible all the way to the old CDR-1503s drives.
 As for number of cards per machine, all I can tell you is that there are 7
selectable addresses on the card.  There are also no IRQ selects or DMA
selects on the card.  In theory, this means 7 cards per machine or a
theoretical max of 56 CDROM drives in one machine.  Now, as for a practical
setup...

BTW, I believe that Hitachi uses what is called the Phillips BUS.  Just a
small point of fact, maybe.  <grin>

So, are you looking into picking these drives up?  I am still looking for a
source for 4 new or used CDR-3600u drives without control cards.

Ronald R. Gage
Sysop, Sound Power Systems
Voice - (517) 792-5890


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 557
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/08/93  3:31p
Subj: CD-ROM Drive 4 Sale                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $220.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00

Both Drives Include:  60 Day Warranty, External DIP switches, True 50 pin
  SCSI, 350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume, newest ROM
  installed.  Diagnostic/cleaning done by service center.  NO special
  drivers required.  5.25 - Half Height Drive. Dust Flap.

205-837-5053 -=- Leave Message if not home, it WILL be returned -=-

Michael Konor, AMIGA_CDROM Co.Moderator



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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 558
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/07/93  5:47p
Subj: SUM NU STUF!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>5.  MY FIRST TIME - Full length adult feature film on CD starring Nikki
MS>    Dial.  Similar to Rimfire Pacific, except you don't need Windows
MS>    for this one!  2-CD set = 80 minutes.  ** $65.00 **

What resolution? Is it at least 320x200 or is it as small as Rimfire?

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Radioactive halibut will make fission chips.


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From: GREG ARMENIA                           Number: 559
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/08/93  5:14p
Subj: The Pier Shareware CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  NEW CD-ROM RELEASE  <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

   *********************************************************************

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                               Now Shipping

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   *********************************************************************

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              the market! Nearly 5,000 files in 50 different
              Subjects, and 75% dated 1993, and 25% 1992.

     The Pier Exchange is proud to present the HOTTEST and MOST CURRENT
     Shareware CD-ROM two disc SET on the market. 100% of the files on
     The Pier Shareware #2 are TRULY dated 1992-1993 files. The Pier
     Exchange has ensured this with "Smart Date Checking." Dated files
     (i.e. FILE_ID.DIZ, READ.ME...) within the archives are disregarded
     giving you TRULY the latest files.


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    OVER 10,000 of The Most CURRENT Shraeware Files Available On CD-ROM

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                                              *                        *
      Two Disc Set For ONLY                   *        Subjects        *
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                                              *   SVGA  GIF Pictures   *
 * Nearly 5,000 files                         *  Educational Programes *
 * 661 Megs of files                          *  Games / Entertainment *
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 * 75% files dated 1993, 25% 1992 SDI         *      DTP / Clipart     *
   (Smart Date Checking in place)             *          Bible         *
 * THE PIER retrieval software contained      *    Medical / Health    *
   on the CD-ROM (easy file access)           *     Word Processing    *
 * All files have been scanned for            *   Laser/Printer Utils  *
   viruses with the latest McAfee SCAN        *  BBS  Programs / Doors *
 * Full GAP, PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat!      *      Communications    *
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 * Nearly 6,000 files
 * 640+ Megs of Shareware files
 * <ASP> directory
 * 99% files dated 1992, 50% newer then 8/92
   (smart date checking in place)                    IS0 9660
 * Pier1 retrieval software contained
   on the CD-ROM (easy file access)
 * All files have been scanned for
   viruses with the latest McAfee SCAN
 * Full GAP, PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat!
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 14.4 BBS 716/875-0283 16.8, Information or FAX 716/875-4931 RIME ->1376


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From: THE SISTER                             Number: 560
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/08/93 12:53p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM CATALOG                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RB> @MSGID: 1:280/333@FIDONET.ORG 63923273
 RB> JL*Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from
 RB> Computer *Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address,
Jim-
        Thank you for your prompt reply to my request for a Catalog. I will
look thru it and contact you again!
                                Joannine Gesualdo

... ... A fool and his money are SysOp material.
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From: THE SISTER                             Number: 561
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 06/08/93 12:56p
Subj: Re: CDROM RETAILER                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Gabe-
        Could you please send me a copy of you Adult Titles, Cd- Rom. I run
an Adult BBS and I would like to get a new Adult Cd Disk to use online. I 
currently use Storm 3.
                        Joannine Gesualdo
                                Snail Mail  P.O. Box 21041 
                                Des Moines, Iowa, 50321
 

... MONEY TALKS ...   but all mine ever says is GOODBYE!
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From: AN PHAM                                Number: 562
  To: DANG NGUYEN                              Date: 06/07/93  6:37p
Subj: Cd Distrubutors                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What kind of CD are you trying to press?
 
An Pham
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From: AN PHAM                                Number: 563
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/07/93  6:43p
Subj: Strip Poker CD-ROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anybody know where to buy and the price for the Strip Poker VGA CD-ROM
version game? I'm interested in the game and have seen it once a long time
ago but forgot its specific name. It had very good graphics but I don't know
the exact name. If anybody know where to buy the game, please reply. Thanks.
 
An Pham
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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 564
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/08/93 10:56p
Subj: Florida Lion's Den In                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

|LN> Did worse then than...I attended the CES show in Chiacago              |
|LN> last week too. Darn, how did I miss so many people.... I               |
|LN> hung out at the TradeShows booth...I will be at the next               |
|LN> COMDEX show (not Canada in July) cuz' I will be pulling                |
|LN> handles in 'Vegas--But I will be at the next COMDEX and CES            |
|LN> show--WOuld love to meet you !                                         |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
I missed you too.  Checked at the TradeShows booth on Mon, Tue, and
Wed......oh well........Picked up a BB while I was there.
___
 X MegaMail 2.10 #0:Psychoceramics: The Study of Crackpots.

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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 565
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 06/08/93 11:01p
Subj: mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

|JS> >SA>The 350 Mitsumi drives can be run off the Aztec Sound              |
|JS> >SA>Galaxy NX-Pro, or  >SA>the ATI Stereo F/X Cd sound card. I         |
|JS> >SA>have either one. The Aztec is $150                                 |
|JS> >SA>andthe ATI is $160.                                                |
|JS>                                                                        |
|JS> So which one would you recomend for overall performance?-Thank for any |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
I talked to both of these companies at COMDEX.  The ATI kills the
soundblaster for sound reproduction.....no tin can sounds.....and has
a much more powerful amp that that SB.  If I remember correctly both
of these use wave tables for sound reproduction.  The next one I get
will be the ATI......Heck they gave me a Shirt.
___
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 566
  To: SAM FERTITTA                             Date: 06/08/93  6:05a
Subj: Re: Looking for cd's                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Lookig for used cd's, or prices on new.
> Loom, Sherlock Holmes #2, Arthurs Teacher Trouble, Dinosaurs. Also Busty
> Babes and Ecstasy.
FREQ CATALOG from 1:138/116 and you will see that most of them in the catalog
and very reasonable priced. TTYL 

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From: SCOTT STADLER                          Number: 567
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/08/93  8:39a
Subj: pricing                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris,  What is the price you would charge for a Toshipb 3401 internal
Pro Audio Spectrum card, and all controllers and cables necc. for
both music cd and cdRom sound, as well as some inexpensive shielded
speakers.  thanks Scott

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 568
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/07/93  7:13a
Subj: Pioneer Special                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>Pioneer DMR 600 - 600ms / 150kps - bare drive  - PRICE $ 799.00 
  >Pioneer DMR 604X -350ms / 600kps - bare drive  - PRICE $1199.00 
 
 Boris, 
        Have you heard any dates on the triple-cartridge (18cdrom) 
changer being developed by pioneer? Any word on price? thanks 
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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 569
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/08/93  1:13a
Subj: Private Pictures CDROM                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have one copy of the cdrom disc Private Pictures for sale.
70 mini-movies and hundreds of x-rated GIFs.  No poster.
Buyer must be over 21, COD not acceptable.

For sale for best reasonable offer.

              Carlos
                   Netmail        1:125/17
                   BBS            415-641-0348
                   Voice          415-647-2881

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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 570
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 06/08/93 11:03a
Subj: Cd's...                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll keep an eye out for your next listing, since I haven't seen one lately. 
I hope it fits within the columns so I can read it.  Thanks for your efforts.


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From: GORDON IRELAND                         Number: 571
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/08/93  1:22p
Subj: Comdex                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Could someone please tell me when the next COMDEX will be.

I believe it will be in Las Vegas and need to know exact dates.


Thanks,
Gord
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 572
  To: BOB HART                                 Date: 06/07/93  6:46a
Subj: WANTED:CD ROM DRIVE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BH>I am looking for an ext. cd-rom drive; used or new it 
BH>doesn't matter,and if possible around $200. 
 
Perke Industries offers the Mitsumi 350ms BRAND NEW for only $185.00 (plus 
shipping)  VISA/MC accepted for no additional charge. 
 
This comes complete with adapter card and all necessary cables and software. 
 
Our grand opening special offers your choice of the following if you buy the 
Mitsumi: 
 
CD PowerBox    $10.00    CD WinBox $10.00    Shareware Studio 2  $10.00 
 
David Thomas 
Perke Industries 
602-898-3669 
 
 
 * OLX 2.1 TD * Your CD-ROM source for the 90's! 
- JetMail v1.12 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire
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From: DONALD MACKAY                          Number: 573
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/08/93  8:32p
Subj: Re: Cd rom drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In order not to offend Donald Mackay spoke softly ->


Hello Boris,
    I am looking for some info in the area of CD ROMs.  I really don't 
know very much about the CD interface methedology. I am looking for 
either a SCSI CD ROM and Adaptec SCSI 2 controller pair or a CD ROM that 
is either proprietry or IDE (if there is such a beast) that will work 
with OS/2.1. I would like a drive that will work with my Soundblaster 
ASP16 board as well.
    What would you suggest and what do you have available? What 
kind of performance are we talking about?ttyl /usr/dan
___
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From: ROY PARK                               Number: 574
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/08/93  8:05a
Subj: ADULT CD CATALOGUES!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dealers:  Please send me calatgues on Adult CDs available, including
ordering information, price, S&H, and etc.  The address is:

Roy Park
101 Louis Pasteur, #72
Ottawa, Ontario
K1N 9N1
CANADA
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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 575
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/09/93 12:13a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE$                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>
**************************************************************************
MS> June 1993                ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST         Last update:
6/06
MS>
**************************************************************************

Hey Mike, at one time a few weeks ago I offered you a brand new 420 meg
Fujitsu HD for a bunch of your ADULT CDROM's.....you never did say
whether or not you were interested in trades.....

james
 þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Who said that Interstellar Empires don't exit?


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From: JIM DOWLEY                             Number: 576
  To: REX OSBORNE                              Date: 06/08/93 12:16p
Subj: PROCOMM                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LAST NIGHT I ENTERED THE BB AND FROM PROCKOMM AND ALL I GOT WAS A BUNCH
OF NUMBERS AND LETTERS. WHEN I HUNG UP THE COMPUTOR TOLD ME
THAT I HUNG UP  WRONG. I WAS JUST TRYING MY CKOMPUTOR SKILLS OUT
    JIM DOWLEY
SZ
V
   WING RKON RONG KOKOMPUTOR TKOLD KOMP L


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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 577
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/08/93 12:56a
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                         The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 1-800-289-1ROM  FAX: (314) 521-7453
                      International 314-521-4862
              We have the following specials this week ONLY!

Software Vault II    $24.00  JUST Released!  8000+ Files All the latest!
                             Predominantly 1993!  Completely BBS ready
                             and compatible!


Shareware Studio II  $29.00  JUST RELEASED!  640 Megs of Shareware,
   With another disk $19.95       Advanced front end interfacing.
                                  Files.bbs in each directory and
                                  separately!
                                  Don't miss this opportunity!


SwimWare 1993  $29.00  **NEW** 1500+ photos of beautiful women in bikinis
                      and lingerie.  Nothing more than PG-13 but all
                      excellent quality GIF files in 640x480 and
                      1024x768 resolution.  Completely BBS ready!

Games 1993     $25.00  **NEW** 6000 files... Completely BBS ready and
                      most of the games are from Jan/Feb/March 1993.
                      With only the classics being older.

Star Trek/     $25.00 1200 GIF photo's of Star Trek, The Next
Fantasy               Generation, Star Wars,  100+ sound files, Fantasy
                      Creatures, Dungeon's and Dragons, Conan, Star Trek
                      Games.  NEW AND COMPLETLEY BBS READY!

House of       $25.00 Over 200 of the latest shareware games, most
GAMES                 playable from the CDROM.  Excellent menu that
                      breaks the games down into Categories!

Monster Disk II            $39.00        Fontmaster II CD Library   $20.00

Mega ROM 2                 $20.00        PC Sig 12                  $22.00

   FIVE STAR PREMIUM Windows!!!!   $39.00   6000+ of the latest Windows
                                         files available!  Completely
                                         BBS ready, with PCboard style
                                         and Files.bbs descriptions!

   FIVE Star Premium DOS!!!        $39.00   6000+ GREAT DOS files.. ALL 92
                                         and 93 FILES!!! Files.bbs and
                                         PCBOARD file descriptions!

                          $69.00 for the set!
                   Caddies $2.99 with purchase!

*********************************************************************
               All prices in effect thru 6/14/93
   VISA          1 - 8 0 0 - 2 8 9 - 1 R O M        MASTERCARD
                 1
              ---- 100s of Titles Available ----



 * WCE 1.02/2072 * Look Ma!  My first tagline....


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From: LEWIS BULLARD                          Number: 578
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93 10:42a
Subj: FOR SALE                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 

Need to sell my system for fall tuition. PB Legend 920 (486sx), 4meg ram
onboard vga, PB vga monitor, 124 meg IDE Seagate, 2400 baud modem, bus mouse,
Magnovox CDD 461 cd-rom and cd audio player with  set of aiwa speakers with
amps, Logitech 32 grayscale hand scanner with interface card, dual disk
drives,
will include 6 cdrom disks with purchase at asked price of $1300. Great setup
for DTP. Lewis 405-357-5942 in the pm or echo back.

... Double your harddrive space -- delete Windows!!!!
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From: LEWIS BULLARD                          Number: 579
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/07/93 10:36a
Subj: FOR SALE                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 

Need to sell my system for fall tuition. PB Legend 920 (486sx), 4meg ram
onboard vga, PB vga monitor, 124 meg IDE Seagate, 2400 baud modem, bus mouse,
Magnovox CDD 461 cd-rom and cd audio player with  set of aiwa speakers with
amps, Logitech 32 grayscale hand scanner with interface card, dual disk
drives,
will include 6 cdrom disks with purchase at asked price of $1300. Great setup
for DTP. Lewis 405-357-5942 in the pm or echo back.

... Double your harddrive space -- delete Windows!!!!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: WARREN DANIO                           Number: 580
  To: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                         Date: 06/08/93  1:20p
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JC > NP> And YOU are selling them for $600?  Such a deal! <Sigh!>

JC > Before you make fun of somebody's message why not take the
JC > time
JC > to read AND UNDERSTAND it first.  It went on to say that
JC > for $600
JC > it includes a CASE, and CABLES, and SHIPPING.  I have
JC > bought 2 of
JC > these in the past from Terry and I highly recommend Terry
JC > Blount
JC > to anybody.

         SHE IS PROBABLY A BLONDE!!!!  NUFF SAID

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 581
  To: SABINE VAN DEN AUDENAERDE                Date: 06/08/93  6:56p
Subj: Is this "service" ???                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Sabine!

Friday June 04 1993, Sabine Van Den Audenaerde writes to Mike Shannon:

 SVDA> My guess is that you are not at all interested in overseas customers
...
 SVDA> not even with a VISA-card! I've been waiting over two weeks now for a
 SVDA> netmail-reply ...

 SVDA> How else could one explain that you did not reply to my netmail
 SVDA> inquiring on prices INCLUDING SHIPPING AND HANDLING and IMPORT-fees to
 SVDA> Belgium. This adds to the costs and I would like to know how much more
 SVDA> it will cost me !!!

 SVDA> What's the matter with you ... had enough of earning some cash? You
sure
 SVDA> don't seem very trustful to order some goods of. If you can't answer
to
 SVDA> our enquiries now .. how long will it take then to send us the CDROMS,
 SVDA> huh ??????? Got an answer for this?

In defense of Mike, he posts from my system, and he does NOT have NetMail
access.  The off-line mail reader he uses does not support it.  You should
instead be blaming me for not forwarding the messages to him in a local
message area, but he still would not be able to respond, as I'm not going to
pay to crash you netmail, and RC17 has determined that routed NetMail is NOT
to be used for business purposes (and I agree with him).

I'm sorry you didn't get a reply, and I want you to realize that it's not
Mike's fault.

Dave Reed
CD-ROM International

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 582
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/08/93  7:01p
Subj: SHAREWARE CD COMPARISONS                Refer: NONE
Read: 06/10/93  7:34a                       Private: No 

Hello Tim!

Monday June 07 1993, Tim Helton writes to Mike Shannon:

 ->> % OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
 ->> -+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+-

 TH> That's good stuff... Thanks for the post.

Is Mike sucking-up again?  ;-)


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From: WARREN DANIO                           Number: 583
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 06/09/93  2:27a
Subj: GEEZ                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KR > months would be eaten up in one phone call during business
KR > hours to the
KR > US.  This is probably true for many sysops who do not live
KR > in your
KR > particular state, depending upon what sort of mail and
KR > delivery system
KR > your local net is using.  I expect this echo will cost me
KR > about $1.50
KR > per month, probably less.  If I couldn't afford this hobby,
KR > I wouldn't
KR > be in it...

KR >           Kirk Rawnsley
KR >           Rules are for Other People
        I.M.H.O. RESELLERS WHO ASK PEOPLE TO REPLY IN THIS ECHO
        FOR A CATALOG ARE JUST FREELOADING OFF THE SYSOPS AND DRIVING
        AWAY CASH CUSTOMERS WHO GET DAM TIRED OF "SEND CATALOG TO"
        ANYBODY HAVING A REAL BUSINESS SHOULD HAVE AN 800 #....

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From: JOSH BERRY                             Number: 584
  To: DAN WAGNER                               Date: 06/08/93  1:09p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST.                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to Jerry Gerolymatos, Dan Wagner said:
DW> Hi Jerry,
DW> I saw your message asking for help in the 7th guest. Since
DW> your near the
DW> end I think you can help my friend, he says hes stuck by a
DW> secret room
DW> before the microscope puzzle and he has to solve some
DW> puzzles with
DW> stones in the floor (I hope thats descriptive enough), also
DW> he cant
DW> figure out the microscope puzzle with the viruses. Can you
DW> help?

DW> Regards
DW> Dan Wagner
DW> --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta
DW>  * Origin: VC BBS - Rosettenville, R.S.A. - +27-11-435-1345
DW> (5:7101/66)
DW> 151/1003 3641/1
        Well, I'm not Jerry but I can help. The room that has the stone
floors is easy once you know what the point is, all you have to do is
conplete the puzzle stepping on as many stones as possible when you finish
there should be four stones left (I think). The Telescope isn't a puzzle so
you can't get someone to help you on it, but if your friend keeps having
trouble tell him that if he hasn't used the book for anything else to go to
the book of clues three times and it will instantly be solved. Well, that
covers all of your questions. later...
                                             Josh
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From: JOSH BERRY                             Number: 585
  To: JOSH BERRY                               Date: 06/08/93  1:24p
Subj: sorry                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JB> IN it is kind of small ÚÄÄÄÄ¿ about that small
JB> ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ>ÀÄÄÄÄÙ. Sorry
        Whoops. That was supposed to be a rectangle but the thing word
wrapped after I saved it. Sorry if you couldn't make that out. later...
                                        Josh
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From: CARLOS RODRIGUEZ                       Number: 586
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/09/93  7:08a
Subj: SHAREWARE CD COMPARISO                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>           % OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
  >          ---------------------------------------------------
  >     PR1   PR2   NO7   NO8   SS1   SS2   MON   SC2   SV1   CDP   SWO
  >   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
  >PR1| .06%| .23%| 1.8%| 6.5%| 3.2%| 7.2%| 7.6%| 6.5%| .70%| 2.1%| 4.5%|
  >   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
  >PR2| .23%| .00%| .09%| .43%| .34%| 2.5%| 1.7%| .85%| .40%| .18%| .19%|
  >   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
  >NO7| 1.8%| .09%| .06%| .57%| 5.0%| 7.4%|34.0%| 9.9%| 1.2%|77.3%| 7.0%|
  >   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+

Am I reading this chart correctly?  I'm not trying to be a smart ***
but looking at pr1 compared to pr1, shouldn't it be 100% duplicate
files since it is the same CD?  Same for pr2, and no7?  The way I'm
reading it, pr1 compared to itself only duplicates .06%, pr2 to itself
.00%, and no7 to itself .06%!  It looks like a very informative chart
but I can't figure out if I'm reading it right!  Please explain b/c I'd
like to use the chart.

Carlos
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From: STEPHEN GUPTON                         Number: 587
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 06/09/93 11:44a
Subj: CD-ROM Extravaganza!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Jun0911:44, Dave Perkovich of 1:161/205 writes:

 DP>                     -= CD PowerBox 1.01 =- 
 DP>  
 DP> Slated to be the new industry standard, the PowerBox is over 650 
 DP> megs of shareware!  This disk actually has BOTH a 
 DP> Windows-based and a DOS-based Graphical User Interface!  
 DP> Forget the Nightowl series, the PowerBox offers an 
 DP> affordable option.  (For an AWSOME combo, try the PowerBox 
 DP> WITH the Shareware Studio!) 
 DP>                     Unit Price.................................$1
 DP> 5.00 
     Is this the correct version number? I have 1.00 dated 1993.

 <*=- Stephen -=*> 

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 588
  To: SABINE VAN DEN AUDENAERDE                Date: 06/10/93  7:27a
Subj: Is this "service" ???                   Refer: 3983
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> No greetz to ya, Mike! Lotta words but poor action if you ask me!

Don't use this echo to vent hostilities.  Pick up the damn phone & call
Mike if you're having trouble with his service...

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 589
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93  9:10p
Subj: Info                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sen.

United States Senate
Washington, D.C.

Dear Senator:

    I am writing to you as a constituent to inform you of my views
regarding S.1521, the most recent anti-pornography bill. It is my
hope that the views of people such as myself will be sufficient to
urge you to oppose the bill.

    S. 1521 permits the imposition of punishment--rendering the
publishers of work deemed "pornographic" subject to paying damages
for the mere publication of written or visual materials-- on a
civil scale, penalizing those who speak on the wholly unproven
theory that this kind of speech "causes" rape. Such punishment for
speech is simply wrong, for several reasons:

    1)It is unconstitutional. Even though the bill is limited to
speech which would fall into the class of speech called obscene,
currently held to be outside of the First Amendment's protection,
the Supreme Court has recently held that it is improper to punish
even constitutionally unprotected speech because of its viewpoint.
R.A.V.v. City of St. Paul. By choosing some "obscene" speech as fit
for punishment while leaving the rest alone, this bill violates the
Court's ruling in RAV--the only reason the speech is punished is
because the image of sexuality it portrays, not because it is
obscene.

    2) Even if it were constitutional, it goes against the
foundation of America's system of government: that people are free
to choose between conflicting ideas. By saying that pornography
"causes" rape, the bill denies the free will of each and every
citizen, diminishing us to the level of idiots who do whatever we
are told is good by some publisher. By denying the ability of
people to choose, this bill denies the only possible ground for a
right to choose how to live our own lives.

    3) The bill negates the basic principle that each person is
responsible for his or her actions, but not for someone else's. By
saying that ideas in porn may be abused by the audience member who
decides to rape, the stage is set for full censorship. If any
speaker is liable for the harm done by those who abuse his or her
ideas, who will be free to speak?  Porn is no different from any
other kind of entertainment that way -- murderers often imitate TV.
Is Matlock the next to go?

I sincerely urge you to vote against this dangerous bill.

Yours truly,
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 590
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/08/93  8:24a
Subj: Re: Adult cd's to swap                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 06 Jun 93  09:11:00, I heard Terry Woodward shout to Kevin Plummer:

TW> Thanks. I'm up to my ears in Shareware disks. Want to trade for the
TW> volcano disk? Send to:
TW> Terry Woodward
TW> Suite 294
TW> 2269 S. University Drive
TW> Davie, Fl 33324
TW> 
TW> Leave me an address and I'll send the cdrom. Which disk was it that you
TW> wanted?

Terry,

  Okay, What disk did you have again ??  And Once I get your Reply Back, I 
will ship the disk that day...

                                       .......|<evin

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From: DEAN SCOTT                             Number: 591
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/20/93  6:30a
Subj: Used CD's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

         I'm looking for some good, used adult cd-rom's. I'm looking in
         perticular for Storm ]I[, Ectasy, Nix Pix 1-4, Giffy Gold and
         Hot Pix 1-4.

        If you have any of the above and are willing to part with them,
        write me back and quote me a price.

        Later,
        Dean Scott

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From: FRANK SERENO                           Number: 592
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/08/93  8:29p
Subj: Re: SHAREWARE CD COMPARISONS            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

 MS> 
 MS> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
 MS> - SHAREWARE CD-ROM DUPLICATION COMPARISONS
 MS> -!---------------------------------------------------------------------
 MS> - Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.0

Well, I had originally written a response and quoted part of the comparison
chart by the characters didn't line up the same as the original.  Everyone
is going to have to check the next or last chart to see what I am saying.
In the chart, each disk is compared against itself and a value is listed.  It
has been a while since I have studied math (calculus to be more precise), but
I believe that any disk compared against itself should have a value of ONE
HUNDRED PERCENT.  I have to question the accuracy of the comparisons against
other disks if the program cannot get this value correct.  At least one disk
came up as having 0.0% duplications and most them came up as having less
than 1%.  Those values must be 100% or they should have some sort of null
symbol placed in that square.

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 593
  To: BRANDAN UPSON                            Date: 06/08/93 12:29p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Call me voice at (913)383-9442. Very interested in making the
 > trade.

It's gone already.

Chris

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From: LEE HICKERSLY                          Number: 594
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/08/93  5:36p
Subj: .TXT files                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Is there a cd that specializes in Adult .TXT files? Does anyone have a large
amount of them built up from other cd's? I would like to get like one QIC-40
tape of .TXT files... I will sned the tape, or pay for yours (prefer that)..
                                Thanx
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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 595
  To: GORDON IRELAND                           Date: 06/09/93  9:10a
Subj: Comdex                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 06-08-93 GORDON IRELAND wrote to ALL... 
 
 GI> Could someone please tell me when the next COMDEX will be. 
 GI> 
 GI> I believe it will be in Las Vegas and need to know exact dates. 
 
Hi Gordon, 
 
I just called the Las Vegas Convention Center Visitor's Info line and they 
told me this years COMDEX is from Nov. 15-19. So that we keep the moderator 
happy, I buy and sell a lot of CDROM titles (for private use not
commercially.) 
Give me a call if you want when you're in the city 877-4907. 
 
>Paul< 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50  "Easy as 3.141592653589..." 

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From: CRAIG TIANO                            Number: 596
  To: CHRIS BARRETT                            Date: 06/09/93 10:38a
Subj: asian ladies                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->     Just curious, but where did you get the pictures from? Also, what
-> involved in finding a CD company to produce it. I now have access to
-> Scanjet IIc, own a Logitech Color Handscanner, and I would be interes
-> producing a CD. Or, at the very least starting to produce adult GIFs
-> BBS. I am worried about violating copyright laws and stuff.
You should be concerned. Unless the works of art/pictures/whatever are
yours, or you have a signed release from the artist allowing you to
reproduce the work you could be fined up to $25,000 PER reproduction
and see 5 years of federal jail time PER reproduction. Scanning Playboy
and posting the pics on your board or on a CDROM is an easy way to meet
lots of lawyers, a judge or two, and maybe a "boyfriend named Bubba"...
If you want to produce an Adult CDROM, you better have your own
original material or material from a reliable source who created the
material.  -Craig
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 597
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 06/05/93  9:23a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS>What is OEM?

Same stuff, different packaging....
I believe it means; Original Equipment Manufacturer

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From: LEE FULLER                             Number: 598
  To: JACK BROWN                               Date: 06/09/93  9:24a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jack,

Please send me your latest catalog, and include any dealer pricing, if
you have any.  Our company is always looking for more suppliers of
quality CD's.  Please include all titles and all subjects.

Take care... and thanks for your assistance!

         Lee Fuller
         SM Computers/Real Life Software
         6160 D-4 Arlington Ave., Suite 272
         Riverside, CA  92504
         (909) 354-7722
         (909) 354-7733 Fax
         (909) 354-7744 Data/BBS
         (800) 354-7771 Orders


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From: ANDREW MURPHY                          Number: 599
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/08/93  5:54a
Subj: Gif/Anim disks ?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What is a good video disk for BBS use?  Looking for G Gifs of everything
under the sun.  Animations are optional.  Anyone got any recomendations.
Also looking for an R gif disk.  I have heard Giffy Gold is a pretty
good one.  Any comments on it?  Any other recomendations?

Murf!


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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 600
  To: CLINT SAVAGE                             Date: 06/09/93 12:03a
Subj: Add size                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS>Yes Patrick, your adds come across readable now..

Thanks!
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 601
  To: TYLER A. WUNDER                          Date: 06/09/93 12:03a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TW>>> Bible library                                             $26 >> 9
bibles, 27 concordances, 20 ref. works, 2 commentaries, 6 dictionaries, 5
word studies, 3,000 sermon outlines, roughly the equivalent of 134,000 pages.

TW>Bibles & Religion                                         $13 Judaism,
Christianity, Islam. New & Old Testament, Book of Mormon, lexicons,
concordances. Requires you to have knowledge of subdirectories and ZIP
decompression (i.e.; the interface ain't that great!).

These descriptions were taken from a catalog, and are complete (except for
my parenthetical remark)....

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 602
  To: BRIAN MILLER                             Date: 06/09/93 12:03a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BM>Is this the NEW Games 1993 disk that just came out?  If so I want it.

This came out in '92...

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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 603
  To: BOB HART                                 Date: 06/08/93  3:03p
Subj: Wanted:cd rom drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You can get a NEW cd-rom drive with a ok access time (300ms) for $189. If
your looking for ANY computer products, pick up a copy of COMPUTER SHOPPER at
your nearst news stand, it has 800+ pages of dealers selling products! Just
to let you know.


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 604
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 06/08/93  3:11p
Subj: I agree!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I agree, if the "reply to catalog" messages take up to much HD space then buy
a bigger HD. This echo is meant for cd-stuff, and catalogs has alot to do
with it.


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 605
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/08/93  3:15p
Subj: Shareware cd comparisons                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In your next comparison, could you include some windows shareware cds, like
cd-winbox... ect. ? thanks


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 606
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/08/93  3:19p
Subj: Cd powerbox disc                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

COuld you give me some stats on cd-power box? (i'm in the market for the BEST
shareware cd)


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From: ANDREW MURPHY                          Number: 607
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/09/93  6:40a
Subj: FAO Gold                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  AM> To the people at profit press, I am sorry to have influenced any
->  AM> thinking it wasn't a top notch disk.
->  AM>
->  AM> Murf!
->
->
-> Kudos to you, Murf, for 'fessin up! I like FAO Gold, too. Now if we
-> could just get everyone else in the adult CD biz to be as forthright.
-> --- FreeMail 1.07b
->  * Origin: The Bit Bucket * Houston, Tx * 713/496-9670 * (1:106/9670)
->
Well, if ya step on your hooter, you just have to be happy that it is
long enough to be stepped on! :>


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 608
  To: JASON BUCHANON                           Date: 06/08/93 10:05a
Subj:  TIM HELTON                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


JB> Next time your in seattle you can buy ME breakfast too, but
 JB> it'll be more like $10.50!  :-)  keep buying breakfast and you
 JB> can interrupt my schedule as often as you like.
  
 You got a deal...  but I doubt I'll be taking 3,000 trips any
 time soon....  but who know?  I have been to Seattle in the past
 I may get there again.
 
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 609
  To: JASON BUCHANON                           Date: 06/08/93  8:10p
Subj: CD Powerbox disc                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


JB> Somewere i was reading about a new disc called
  ....
 JB> "Cream  of the crop" or something  like  that....  do  you  know
 JB> anything about it?  How mych is it?   Is  it  worth  the  money?
  
  Yes! It is worth the money.  It is a shareware  disc  with  5000+
  high quality files/ no adult or gif files.  It is going for $39 +
  $6 for second day shipping/c.o.d.    If  you  are  not  satisfied
  with the quality of this disc I will allow you to exchange it for
  any Shareware disc I have  in  stock  (about  15  titles).   Call
  205-824-2552
  
  It also has programs for automatic and instant setup for Maximus,
  Spitfire, RA, Quick BBS and PCBoard.
 
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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 610
  To: EARL BONSER                              Date: 06/08/93  9:52p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -> > I have Giffy Gold,
 -> I have Physical Therapy, volume 3, an almost exact duplicate of XXX
 -> Extreme that I would trade for the above.  I  bought this one at
 -> comdex, and did not realize it duplicated extreme, so it is in
 -> perfect condition.  Interested?
 EB> If he isn't, I am.  Let me know by calling (813)969-2860 after 6pm
 EB> EST any evening or anytime on the weekend.


I donn't have access to a LD line for outgoing.  If you have Giffy Gold, and
would like to trade it for my copy of Physical Therapy, you can mail it to
the following address, and I will return mine in trade the same afternoon. 
For voice confirmation, you can call 404-763-0000, or fido netmail 7pm-7am. 
Answering machine other times.

Michael Benge
4540 washington rd
college park ga 30349.

I will ship priority mail when disc is received, same day.  Hope to hear from
you.

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From: KENNETH WATTS                          Number: 611
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/09/93 10:17p
Subj: CHEAP CDROM DRIVE                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a cheap new or used cdrom drive for my 286 12 mhz machine. 
Can anyone help me out?

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From: NED ALLISON                            Number: 612
  To: CLINT SAVAGE                             Date: 06/08/93  7:54p
Subj: MSCDEX PROBLEM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS->This is a bit out of the Sales area but....Call it customer service..

CS->I have an external Sony CD-ROM that was working fine with DOS6 on a
386DX33
  ->Then I upgraded to a AMI (motherboard) 486DX2-66 Just normal DOS v6 using
  ->MSCDEX v2.20 (in dos v6 package) and get "Incorrect DOS version). Tried
SET
  ->with 3.1 and 4.1 and 5.0 (not all at the same time) with no luck. Any
  ->Suggestions. Thanks

Call MicroSoft for an upgrade to at least v 2.21 on the MSCDEX. -=- Ned


 * OLX 2.1 TD * Gee...I wish I could remember where I parked my HardDisk!


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From: SCOTT ATKINS                           Number: 613
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 06/08/93  6:43p
Subj: Re: mitsumi                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Joe Slifer to Scott Atkins <=-

 >SA>The 350 Mitsumi drives can be run off the Aztec Sound Galaxy NX-Pro, or 
 >SA>the ATI Stereo F/X Cd sound card. I have either one. The Aztec is $150 
 >SA>andthe ATI is $160. 
 JS> So which one would you recomend for overall performance?-Thank for any
 JS> input. 

Joe:

Both are Sound Blaster and Adlib compatible.  After reading the features
list of both cards, I would recommend the ATI.   It is also the one that
my Mitsumi distributor has chosen to bundle with their Multimedia drive
package.

Scott
(916) 775-1946 (PST weekends/evenings)
... "U.S.S. Slifer, lower your shields and prepare to be boarded!"
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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 614
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/08/93 10:48p
Subj: Various                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Howdy Mike,

Could you please give me info on the following titles?
-Readers library
-Reference library
-Shakespear
-Electronic Home Library
-Languages of the World
-Library of the Future #1
-World Atlas MPC

          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: MICHAEL P. ALDRIDGE                    Number: 615
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/09/93  7:21a
Subj: CD ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TEXEL CD ROMS available for good prices. All units are double throughput with
excellent access times. prices start at $425.00 and up around $575.00 for the
kits. Also packages are available with CD ROM software. Please leave me a
message if interested.

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From: JEREMIAH CASEY                         Number: 616
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/06/93  7:42p
Subj: Cd-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer
JL>Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address, and we'd
be >glad to get one right out to you.  Thanks!

DN)JL>                                                        Jim...
DN)  >Computer Works
DN)  >CD-Rom Sales!
DN)  >(205) 793-4481 Voice
DN)  >(205) 671-0092 BBS

I would like a catalog

Jeremiah Casey
668 W. Washington #25
El Cajon, CA 92020


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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 617
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/09/93  2:57p
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 1/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Mike:

In a msg of <Sunday June 06 1993>, Mike Shannon writes to All:

     <sigh> Despite the fact that no one seems to want to give out any
information on the cds they advertise in this forum, I'm going to ask yet
again for some filling in on the contents of cds that look interesting.

     After all, if I can be interested in the contents of the disk, I MIGHT
BUY IT [not so subtle hint].

 MS>  Bible Library.................31.00
 MS>  Bibles & Religion.............16.50

     What can you tell me about these?

 MS>  CIA World Fact Book...........24.00

     Hmmm...this looks interesting, too.  Anything good here?

 MS>    Shakespeare...................17.50

     Now this REALLY would have been helpful about a year back.  In any
event, I still might be interested in it.  What's on this?  Just his complete
works, and if so, would there be anything there that makes it superior to the
paper version?

     Eagerly hoping I'll get a response.



Tyler A. Wunder

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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 618
  To: SHELDON KOEHLER                          Date: 06/09/93  3:05p
Subj: CD-ROMS FROM WITHIN I                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Sheldon:

In a msg of <Sunday June 06 1993>, Sheldon Koehler writes to Tyler A. Wunder:

 TAW>> Yep.  Just slipped disk four in and it's 77:45.  I think I have a
 TAW>> few
 >> others of similar length, as well.
 SK> I was under the impression that audio CD's were a maximum of 79:59. I
 SK> may be wrong...

     This is in keeping with my observations, as I don't think I own any cds
that have over 80 minutes of music on them.


Tyler A. Wunder

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From: TONY MACE                              Number: 619
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/09/93  1:43p
Subj: Looking For CD Drive                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

Am looking for price quotes on the following drives:

Texel DM-3024 and DM-5024.

Just bare drives, no controller cards, cables, etc.  Already have that part.
Will need drivers if required.  Have PAS16.

Thanks!
Tony

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From: TIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 620
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/09/93  9:45p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE$                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS>  Nix Pix Hot Pix 2.............34.50    Storm 

Mike, do you stock Nix Pix I ?

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 621
  To: MALCOLM KLEU                             Date: 06/09/93 11:22p
Subj: ORDER                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Malcolm,

Thanks very much for the order, but on your original fax, you requested
a "free" CD to be sent with the order.  The only "free" CD we've ever
offered was our Starvector 208mb CD that we were advertising as free with
any order over $100, but we stopped advertising that particular CD over
3 months ago when we ran out of stock.  In your 2nd fax, you asked why
we didn't include the $6 shareware CD.  The reason is that you requested
our "free" CD with your order, which we haven't offered for 3 months.
There was no mention made of the $6 promotional CD in your order.  If you
would still like the disc, it would be $6 + $4.67 Air Mail to Africa.
Let me know.

Hope this clears up your questions.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 622
  To: STEPHEN GUPTON                           Date: 06/09/93 11:22p
Subj: SUM NU STUF!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SG>     I spoke with 3 differant distributors and all say this disk is hosed
up,
SG>and yet, they were honest enough to point this out rather than just make a

Stephen,

What's "hosed up" about it?  I've sold around 40 of these, and not a single
complaint so far.  The sister CD "Shareware 93" is another story however.
That disc is missing several files AND directories, and I'm now
liquidating them at my cost and telling my customers up front that it does
have some definite problems.  Haven't heard anything negative about Games
93 until now, so can you be more specific than just "hosed up"?

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 623
  To: SABINE VAN DEN AUDENAERDE                Date: 06/09/93 11:22p
Subj: Is this "service" ???                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SVDA>My guess is that you are not at all interested in overseas customers ...
no
SVDA>even with a VISA-card! I've been waiting over two weeks now for a
netmail-r
SVDA>How else could one explain that you did not reply to my netmail
inquiring o
SVDA>prices INCLUDING SHIPPING AND HANDLING and IMPORT-fees to Belgium. This
add
SVDA>the costs and I would like to know how much more it will cost me !!!

If you sent Netmail to Dave Reed's BBS, I didn't receive it because I have
been calling his board infrequently in the past month, and have been
devoting more time to a local board in my town.   We charge actual Air Mail
rates on shipping, which are:  1 lb: $10.70, 2 lbs: 16.70, 3 lbs: 22.70,
etc.  (Keep adding $6 per add'l pound).  Insurance is usually around $3 - $4.

We do take VISA w/ no surcharge, and can ship same day.  Hope this answers
your questions, and sorry about not replying . . . I wasn't ignoring you, I
just never received your Netmail since it wasn't sent to the board I call
most often.

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA þ MC þ AMEX þ DISCOVER þ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs þ 509-457-2966 (FAX)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 624
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/09/93 11:22p
Subj: SHAREWARE CD COMPARISONS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ> MS>                SHAREWARE CD-ROM DUPLICATION COMPARISONS

BJ>Great job, Mike! (Even if the figures are a bit suspect - shouldn't the
BJ>diagonal be either 100% or "N/A" or something besides what it shows?)

Bob,

No, the "diagonal" shows the percentage of internal dupes within a given
CD.  Example below:

     PR1   PR2   NO7   NO8   SS1   SS2   MON   SC2   SV1   CDP   SWO
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
PR1| .06%| .23%| 1.8%| 6.5%| 3.2%| 7.2%| 7.6%| 6.5%| .70%| 2.1%| 4.5%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
PR2| .23%| .00%| .09%| .43%| .34%| 2.5%| 1.7%| .85%| .40%| .18%| .19%|

In this example, you can see that Pier1 has a .06% internal duplicate
percentage.  In other words, the program not only shows dupe % between
different CD's, it also shows the percentage of duplicate files
WITHIN each CD.  This is what the diagonal is showing.  Notice that
the only CD to have 0% onboard dupes is Pier 2!  Lovely disc.

Are my figures still suspect? <g>

BJ>You've given some real added value to the shareware CD buyers!

Thanx Bob, I always look forward to your messages when others start
congregating on the "bash Mike" bandwagon.  If I ever become a
comedian, I'm going to hire you to sit in my audiences! <ggg>

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 625
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/09/93 11:23p
Subj: SUM NU STUF!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TW>MS>5.  MY FIRST TIME - Full length adult feature film on CD starring Nikki
TW>MS>    Dial.  Similar to Rimfire Pacific, except you don't need Windows
TW>MS>    for this one!  2-CD set = 80 minutes.  ** $65.00 **

TW>What resolution? Is it at least 320x200 or is it as small as Rimfire?

Terry,

Haven't seen the stats, but the image fills about 50% of my screen.
Motion is real smooth for a DOS-only application, and sound quality on
my inexpensive 8-bit sound card is very clear.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 626
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/09/93 11:23p
Subj: PIER 2 NOW SHIPPING                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

***************************************************************************
  ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ------->> PIER 2 NOW IN STOCK <<------- ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
***************************************************************************

                                PRICE:  $45

 You know the spotless track record of Pier 1 by now, acclaimed by some as
 "the best BBS-ready shareware CD at any price".  Well get ready, because
 its successor is HERE!  Announcing PIER 2.............

           The most up-to-date IBM shareware CD available!
           Almost 5000 files in 50 different categories, with
           75% dated 1993!!   ** BBS-READY **

 * Less than 1% duplication to Pier 1
 * Less than 1% duplication to Night Owl 8
 * All files virus-scanned
 * Fully BBS-ready with support for PCBoard, GAP, Spitfire, and Wildcat
 * EZ file access with the Pier retrieval system
 * Smart-date checking
 * 661mb total
 * Separate directory for A.S.P. software
 * Industry-standard ISO 9660 format

 * ORDER YOURS NOW!!      This WILL BE the HOTTEST shareware CD of 1993!

     NOW SHIPPING...........ORDER TOLL FREE............1-800-767-1284

     Special 2-disc offer:  PIER 1 and PIER 2..................$65.00
     Special 2-disc offer:  PIER 2 and Night Owl 8.............$69.00
     Special 3-disc offer:  PIER 1 / PIER 2 / Night Owl 8......$89.00
     Special 4-disc offer:  PIER 1 / PIER 2 / Night Owl 7+8...$109.00

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Find a better advertised price?  Call us LAST, and we'll save you some $$$
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA þ MC þ AMEX þ DISCOVER þ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs þ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 627
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/09/93 11:23p
Subj: CD PACKAGE DEALS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-------------[ CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS ]------------------------------------

1.  Night Owl 5.0            2. Storm 1                  3. PC-PIX 1
    Night Owl 6.1               Storm 2                     PC-PIX 2
    Night Owl 7.0               Storm 3                     PC-PIX 3
    -------------               -------                     ------
    $59.00                      $75.00                      $79.00


4.  Night Owl 7.0            5. Storm 1                  6. Seedy 6-Pak
    Night Owl 8.0               Storm 2                     Seventh Heaven
    -------------               -------                     --------------
    $55.00                      $45.00                      $171.00


7.  Busty Babes              8. CD GamePak 1             9. CD-Powerbox
    Ecstasy Hot Pics            US/World Atlas              Phoenix 3.0
    ----------------            --------------              ------------
    $59.00                      $39.00                      $35.00


10. Pier 1                  11. Pier 1                  12. SUPER CD 2
    Night Owl 7                 Night Owl 8                 VGA Spectrum 2
    Night Owl 8                 Shareware Online            Monster Disc x2
    -----------                 ----------------            ---------------
    $87.00                      $87.00                      $87.00

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

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 Find a better advertised price?  Call us LAST, and we'll save you some $$$
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA þ MC þ AMEX þ DISCOVER þ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs þ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: REN JUST                               Number: 628
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/09/93  8:12a
Subj: LINUX CDROM                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
LINUX AND INTERNET FILES ON CD-ROM
  
LINUX, a UNIX operating system workalike now available
on CD-ROM.  Includes GNU C/C++ compiler, X-Windows,
TCP/IP, sound card support and much more.  Only $49.95.
 
Also CD-ROMs available with source code and applications
from internet servers for DOS, UNIX, Amiga, C and Mac.
Call or write for listing.
 
To receive your LINUX CD-ROM call and order with your
charge card
 
or send $49.95 + $3.00 S/H (CA residents add 7.25% tax) to:
 
Just Computers!
PO Box 751414
Petaluma  CA 94975-1414
  
    707-769-1648
FAX 707-765-2447
Internet: uonline@infoserv.com OR rjust@delphi.com
 
Visa and MasterCard gladly accepted.
 

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From: BRIAN WHEATLEY                         Number: 629
  To: LEE HICKERSLY                            Date: 06/09/93  9:12p
Subj: Re: .TXT files                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You have a backup, full of Adult .TXT files? How many megs did you say 40?
How much would you sell it for? Thanks...
Brian

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From: BRIAN WHEATLEY                         Number: 630
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/09/93  9:22p
Subj: Cd-Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Just wondering everyone, is 700ms to slow to use a CD-ROM for a BBS? Like a
shareware cd, for downloading etc... Thanks...
Brian.

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From: MAHMUT KURSUN                          Number: 631
  To: SABINE VAN DEN AUDENAERDE                Date: 06/08/93  1:06p
Subj: Is this "service" ???                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > My guess is that you are not at all interested in overseas customers ...
 > not even with a VISA-card! I've been waiting over two weeks now for a
 > netmail-reply ...

I'm here in Germany, also accept VISA and have following CD-ROM's
for Sysops/BBS, almost all full and with Files.BBS

 > a package deal on Pier1+2 & Night Owls 8 ... and maybe Busty Babes ... I

-Simtel 04/93       -PCSIG 12           -CICA Windows 04/93
-Nightowl 6.1       -CD Powerbox        -Mega CDROM 2
-Nightowl 7         -Shareware Studio   -Mega Audio/Video
-Nightowl 8         -Phoenix III        -Mega WinOS2
-Pegasus 1.0        -Phoenix II         -SDN 1 Plus

Simtel/CICA for 50 DM Busty Babes and all others for 70 DM incl. EC-Tax,
which is 15% from Germany. Shipping Germany->Belgium surface way is
very low priced, approximate 1 DM each CD-ROM

Kursun CDROM Versand
Karl-Marx-Ring 148
8000 Munich 83
tel: ++49-89-6378421
fax: ++49-89-6378429

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From: TERRY CONRAD                           Number: 632
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/09/93 11:43p
Subj: Hi, CD-ROM Catalogs *WANTED*            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     I would like to recieve come CD-ROM disk catalogs.  Anyone selling CD's
with catalogs please mail them to me:

     Terry Conrad
     2917 Franchel Ct.
     Lancaster, OH  43130



I'm VERY interested in buying quite a few disks for personal use so please
respond.  Thanks



                         Terry

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 633
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93  6:11a
Subj: CD-ROM Drive Sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $220.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00

Both Drives Include:  60 Day Warranty, External DIP switches, True 50 pin
  SCSI, 350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume, newest ROM
  installed.  Diagnostic/cleaning done by service center.  NO special
  drivers required.  5.25 - Half Height Drive. Dust Flap.

205-837-5053 -=- Leave Message if not home, it WILL be returned -=-

Michael Konor, AMIGA_CDROM Co.Moderator



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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 634
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 06/08/93  2:03p
Subj: Hitachi CDROM drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hi all!  I need to know if rumors I have heard are true.
->
-> 1) 1 Hitachi CDROM proprietary controller handles 4 Hitachi Drives
->
-> 2) You can have 4 Hitachi controllers in the same machine giving you
-> CDROM drives.......

This is true, but you can have up to 6 controller cards in one machine
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From: RICK ASHWORTH                          Number: 635
  To: MARK SMITKA                              Date: 06/09/93  7:53a
Subj: 7th guest trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Mark!

06 Jun 93, Mark Smitka writes to Rick Ashworth:

 MS> You sound like just the kind of player Trilobyte had in mind when they
 MS> created T7G.  :-)

I'm too tired to figger that out, so I'll take that as a compliment! <g>

Actually, I already have T7G, but I'll always try to scavenge extras for
friends around here!  They're all jealous, and local outlets are sold out,
except for Babbages for $79!

Rick

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 636
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/09/93 10:13p
Subj: Re: Adult Cd Price$                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Mike:
    I was able to freq your (CATALOG), and enjoyed the descriptions.  
What I'm really looking for is something in the format that you post.  
On my system (RBBS) I have the margins set to 72, so I have to look 
closer at your list.  I'd like to be able to use it as a guide to 
purshase (based on price).  Is it possible that I might freq your posts 
of just romdisc's with prices?  Just give me the filename or majic name.
Thanks in advance....
    Joe Rinehart
    1:157/479

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 637
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 06/09/93 10:43a
Subj: $130 CD ROM DRIVES                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 4 used Hitachi  internal  3500  drives  with  an  external  case,
  controller  card,  cables,  caddies,  screws,  drivers,  30   day
  warranty,  INCLUDING shipping in the US via  US  mail  AND  c.o.d
  charges   ...   ONLY     $600    total.      Call    205-824-2552
  
  Power supplies are available for $25,
  External cable is available for $30,
  2 nd day shipping is available for $25.
  Cream  of  the  Crop  Shareware  with  this   package   for
  $20  ...and/or other popular cd titles.
  
  This special  ends  July  1st  or  whenever  supplies  are  gone.
 
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From: STEPHEN GUPTON                         Number: 638
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 06/10/93  6:46p
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Jun1018:46, Mark Abbacchi of 1:100/550 writes:


 MA> Games 1993     $25.00  **NEW** 6000 files... Completely BBS ready 
     Most distributers have removed this disk from their line because it's   
  really messed up. I attempted to call voice and netmail and recieved no    
 reply, I posted here as a last resort.

 <*=- Stephen -=*> 

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From: FRANK KNAPP                            Number: 639
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 06/08/93 11:16p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send catalog (all titles)
to:
Frank Knapp
PO Box 234
Souderton, PA 18964

Thanks

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From: KEN CARPENTER                          Number: 640
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/08/93  5:28p
Subj: CorelDraw 3.0 CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am trying to get a good price on CorelDraw 3.0 can anyone help. I
have Word for Windows/Bookshelf92 if anyone is interested in a trade
otherwise a good price will do fine.

Thanks Ken



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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 641
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 06/10/93  1:25a
Subj: Hitachi CDROM drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>Hi James,
MB>I sell used Hitachi, and that is true. I have someone running 8 drives
MB>on one system with 2 cards and it works great.  We sell the Todd
MB>Enterprizes interface cards, and they are configurable.
MB>Let me know if you need some drives or controller cards.

Well what would 12 drives and 3 cards cost?
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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 642
  To: RON GAGE                                 Date: 06/10/93  1:27a
Subj: Hitachi cdrom drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RG>The controller for the CDR-3600u can handle 8 drives by itself.  It is
also
RG>fully backwards compatible all the way to the old CDR-1503s drives.
RG> As for number of cards per machine, all I can tell you is that there are
7
RG>selectable addresses on the card.  There are also no IRQ selects or DMA
sele
RG>on the card.  In theory, this means 7 cards per machine or a theoretical
max
RG>56 CDROM drives in one machine.  Now, as for a practical setup...

If thats the case I need pricing on 2 cards and 16 drives......
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 643
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 06/09/93  8:23a
Subj: Cd-rom drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KR>How do you ship?

Most shipments are UPS Ground, because any other method costs more. I could
even hand deliver, for a reasonable fee, to places like Hawaii, Acupulco,
Florida, etc.
<VBG>


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From: RAY SEALS                              Number: 644
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93  9:13p
Subj: Twelve Roads to Gettysbu                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for a CD titled "Twelve Roads to Gettyburg".  I've seen it    
for the MAC but I'm looking for the CD version for DOS.  There is a DOS  
version but it's on floppies.  If anyone know were I can get one please   
let me know.

Later...


 * JABBER v1.1 * CD ROM.  CD ROM run.  Run ROM run!

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From: RAY SEALS                              Number: 645
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93  9:18p
Subj: Mailing Lists                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please put my name on the catalog mailing lists:    
  
Ray Seals   
201 River Village
Destrehan, LA  70047

Thanks


 * JABBER v1.1 * I didn't vote for Clinton or her idiot husband!

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From: CHARLEY TEEL                           Number: 646
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93  3:20a
Subj: CDROM's for sale              (Echo)    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CDROM for sale information.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 647
  To: ANDREW MURPHY                            Date: 06/10/93 11:30a
Subj: FAO Gold                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Well said, well said!!  (:>

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 648
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 06/08/93 11:07p
Subj: MITSUMI AUDIO                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>in the background.  I have not noticed any conflict with other programs yet

> yeah. it's a small tsr.  just don't use DESQVIEW with it, and you'll 
continue
>to enjoy it.

Odd - I can play audio on MY Mitsumi under Desqview here....


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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 649
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 06/08/93  9:35p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MB> MB> I have Physical Therapy, volume 3, an almost exact duplicate of XXX
MB> MB> Extreme that I would trade for the above.  I  bought this one at
MB> MB> comdex, and did not realize it duplicated extreme, so it is in
perfect
MB> MB> condition.  Interested?

MB>Not sure.  Prices have dropped so much recently, think I would rather
trade
MB>that sell it and try to buy something else.

Mike,
I have PcPixII, Smutware, Adult refference Library, and My Private
collection II for swap. Want to deal?

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 650
  To: JOHN DECARLO                             Date: 06/09/93  5:19p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JD>On <Jun 04 22:37>, Andy Yee (1:134/2001) wrote:
JD> AY >intersted in selling Fao?
JD>Yes, sale or trade.  Make an offer.

Which FAO? Got ARL? Pc-Pix II? Smutware? MPC II?

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 651
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 06/10/93  6:23a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RD>OK, well, Giffy Gold is on its way to you via 3rd class mail. I would

I'll get PC-Pix II out today. Thanks.

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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 652
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 06/10/93  3:22p
Subj: Private Pictures CDROM                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I have one copy of the cdrom disc Private Pictures for
 > sale.
 > 70 mini-movies and hundreds of x-rated GIFs.  No poster.
 > Buyer must be over 21, COD not acceptable.

I offer $20.

Vikki

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From: BERT KENNEDY                           Number: 653
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/10/93 10:26p
Subj: CAT                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Jim!

Please send me one as well

Bert Kennedy
636 Crystal Wood Dr.
Asheboro, N.C. 27203

All Titles and Types please..

Bert

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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 654
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93  5:39p
Subj: Cdrom Titles For Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 06-09-93 All wrote to All... 
 
 A > Just wondering everyone, is 700ms to slow to use a CD-ROM  
 A > for a BBS? Like a shareware cd, for downloading etc...  
 A > Thanks... 
 A > Brian. 
 A >  
 A > --- Telegard 2.7.b7a Beta 
 A >  * Origin: K9COPS BBS * BC * CANADA * "K9 Experts" (1:153/900) 
 A >  
 A >  
 
 
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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 655
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93  7:39p
Subj: Cdrom Titles For Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
... OFFLINE 1.50  "Press any key... NO! NOT THAT ONE!" 

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From: DANNY TONG                             Number: 656
  To: PAUL JANEL                               Date: 06/10/93  7:53p
Subj: The 7th guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PJ> Hi, what is 7TH Guest? It's the most amazing game I have ever seen. 
The requirements are very high.  The recommendations are even higher.  It
comes on two CDs, some people said it's over a gig, but it takes 5MB on the
HD. There is a VHS tape that shows you how they made it and it's like they
were making a movie.  Actors, sound, music, acting sets, etc.

PJ> Is it a shareWare cd? No.  But you can buy it for under $50.


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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 657
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/09/93 10:09a
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for a copy of Microsoft's Bookshelf 1991 addition.  ALSO Info. on the
MIDI Music Shop.   
Thank-you

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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 658
  To: BOB SPILLERS                             Date: 06/10/93 10:42p
Subj: Need To Know                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >what I've observed on this echo I think I will need a Sound Board,
 >Speakers, and a drive. Is this correct or do I need other things? If
You don't _need_ a sound board, but they are nice to have. You cannot have
Multimedia with out one. For speakers, you can use your TV speakers (if it's
one of those fancy Stereo ones with inputs) or your stereo, or just plain
little speakers or headphones.
 >someone could set me straight on this and give me a ballpark figure on
Around $150 for a new soundboard with Cd-Rom interface, and $200-$300 for a
good Cd-Rom that will hook into it.
 >costs, it would be appreciated. Should I get internal or external and
 >what are the advantages or disadvantage of the two? The CD ROM would be
 >for personal entertainment only and not for business. I have a 5 1/4 bay
 >open if it would be better to get and internal.
Internal and External really doesn't matter. Externals are a few dollars
more, and take up space. An internal will take up another bay, making it
difficult (depending on your case) to add things such as a tape back up (you
have to get external, which cost much more). Also, Internals are easier to
hook to the sound board...If you go external you may have to purchase an
adaptor kit to use with the Soundboard to connect to the Cd-Rom drive. I
would look for a drive with no more than 500ms seek time, preferably less
than 400. Ideally you should get a multimedia "kit" with a Soundblaster pro.
That way you have no compatability problems and the Soundblaster is a lot
easier to set up than a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 or Sound Galaxy Pro 16. They
make "kits"  that come with a Soundblaster Pro and a Sony Cd-Rom drive.


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 659
  To: STEVE HOLSTEIN                           Date: 06/10/93  7:24p
Subj: Cache                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi,
Norton (Syscamitic... what ever) has a great caching program that not only
caches cd-rom drives, but many other drives as well. I'm not sure of the
price or even the name as a matter of fact, but take a look around this echo,
your bound to find some one talking about it.

If i find out more, i'll tell you.


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 660
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 06/10/93  7:32p
Subj: Cd-rom extravaganza!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Could you send me a catalog?
If so, please send it to:
Paul Janel
280 curtis road
Hilton NY 14468
Thanks!


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From: DEAN SCOTT                             Number: 661
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 05/23/93  4:45p
Subj: CD-ROM Extravaganza!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DP>                        PERKE INDUSTRIES
DP>                          602-898-3669
DP>                        VISA/MC Accepted!
DP>                        (No Extra Charge)

DP>Adult CD
DP>--------
DP>After Dark..........................................$25.95
DP>Oriental Garden.....................................$40.95

Can you give me some more info on this "Oriental Garden" CD? Is it a
disk full of Gifs or movies and how many of either is on it. Also do you
accept mail-in orders or by phone only? Finally, do you have a catalog
of your adult titles you could send me?

Dean

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 662
  To: FRANK SERENO                             Date: 06/11/93 12:11a
Subj: SHAREWARE CD COMPARISONS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FS>In the chart, each disk is compared against itself and a value is listed. 
It
FS>has been a while since I have studied math (calculus to be more precise),
but
FS>I believe that any disk compared against itself should have a value of ONE
FS>HUNDRED PERCENT.  I have to question the accuracy of the comparisons
against
FS>other disks if the program cannot get this value correct.  At least one
disk
FS>came up as having 0.0% duplications and most them came up as having less
FS>than 1%.  Those values must be 100% or they should have some sort of null
FS>symbol placed in that square.

Frank,

Sorry, I should have made that more clear.  The dupe percentages for
CD's compared against themselves indicates the amount of duplicate files
WITHIN those CD's.  The program I used not only shows the percentage of
dupes between two DIFFERENT CD's, but shows the amount of INTERNAL
duplication for a given CD.  For example, Pier 1 when compared against itself
shows .06% duplication.  This means that WITHIN Pier1, there is a .06%
duplication of filenames, which means that of the roughly 5800 files on the
CD, 3 of them share common filenames with 3 other files.  Before Pier 2,
all shareware CD's had SOME percentage of internal dupes.  Pier 2 is the
only one I know of that has no duplicate files within its own directories,
hence the "0%" rating.  Very good if you ask me! <g>

Thanks for the reply; I'll be sure to clarify that point when I post the
chart again.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 663
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 06/11/93 12:11a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE$                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JP>Hey Mike, at one time a few weeks ago I offered you a brand new 420 meg
JP>Fujitsu HD for a bunch of your ADULT CDROM's.....you never did say
JP>whether or not you were interested in trades.....

James,

Sorry, but not all of my messages to my local board have been going out.
Looks like a good deal, but I've already got 750 megs installed, and I'm
only using about 300 of that!  No can use at this point.

Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 664
  To: LEE HICKERSLY                            Date: 06/11/93 12:11a
Subj: .TXT files                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LH>Is there a cd that specializes in Adult .TXT files? Does anyone have
LH>a large

Lee,

I don't know of one that has .TXT files exclusively, (does anyone) but
Ecstasy Hot Pics, PC-PIX 1, and Hot Pix 3 seem to have the largest
offering of text stories among .GIF/animation/txt combination CD's.
We've got 'em all in stock if you're interested.

Bye,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 665
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/11/93 12:11a
Subj: NIGHTWATCH INTERACTIVE!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

      WOW!!   New > INTERACTIVE < Adult video CD!  Only . . . . $65.00
      ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

        Introducing NIGHT WATCH, the first "Interactive" full-length
        adult movie!

        You make the rounds with a beautiful late night security guard
        as you check out the action in her complex.

        This is a custom-shot, full length interactive movie with over
        100 minutes of digital video!  Shot from the first person
        point of view, and viewed on a 320 x 240 pixel screen at a
        realistic 10 frames per second, Nightwatch Interactive is the
        first full length adult movie that puts the user directly in
        the action!  All along the way, you encounter erotic situations
        and interact with some of the most gorgeous women you've ever
        seen!  (Req. Windows 3.1)

        QUANTITIES LIMITED . . . . $65.00 while they last. . . . . .

        . . . . . . . Coming soon to a CD-ROM Drive (In) near you!

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 666
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/11/93 12:11a
Subj: 3 NEW SHAREWARE CD'S                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
    B R A N D    S P A N K I N'    N E W    S H A R E W A R E    C D ' S
 **************************************************************************

    If you want the MOST RECENT shareware files possible for your personal
    use, or for your BBS, look here!  These are the three ABSOLUTE NEWEST
    shareware CD's available, and all are of impeccable quality.  LOTS of
    attention to detail, with NO disappointments, GUARANTEED!!

1.  PIER 2 -  You know the spotless track record of Pier 1 by now, acclaimed
    by some as "the best BBS-ready shareware CD at any price".  Well get
    ready, because its successor is HERE!  Announcing PIER 2 - The most
    up-to-date IBM shareware CD available.  Almost 5000 files in 50
    different categories, with 75% dated 1993!!  Only 0.23% duplication
    to Pier 1, and 0.43% duplication to Night Owl 8.  All files virus-
    scanned, fully BBS-ready with support for PCBoard, GAP, Spitfire, and
    Wildcat, EZ file access with the Pier retrieval system, smart-date
    checking, on and on!  661mb total.  A definite "must-have".  ** $45 **

2.  SHAREWARE STUDIO #2 - An outstanding new disc with 6659 hand-picked
    1992/1993 shareware files.  Includes every possible file area from
    ANSI Graphics to Word Processing.  Fully BBS-ready with a super-
    slick user interface that allows users to access and search the
    files from a srollable menu.  All files free of archive errors, BBS
    ads, AV codes, and all known computer viruses.  All archive dates
    match the latest date found within the archive.  Less than 1/2 of 1%
    internal duplicates, with NO dupes to #1!  637mb total.  ** $27 **

3.  SOFTWARE VAULT #2 - A phenomenal collection of late releases,
    including the "Hottest Hits" of Spring 1993.  Fully BBS-compatible,
    with FILES.BBS in each directory.  Categories include Windows
    Applications & Games, DOS games, Family and Education, General
    Business Programs, PC Utilities, Graphics, Programming Utilities &
    Source Code, Music & Sound, Special Interests, and much more.  620mb
    total.  This one won't be available everywhere!  ** $29 **

    SPECIAL OFFER #1:  Take all three for $89!
    SPECIAL OFFER #2:  Add Night Owl 8 to any purchase for only $27!
    SPECIAL OFFER #3:  600mb "Mystery" CD only $6 with any purchase!

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

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 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

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From: JAMES MILLER                           Number: 667
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93 11:22a
Subj: New to this Echo                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mission Control BBS is new to this echo.  Are there any rules and regs I need
to know about besides the usual No FLAMING!! or shouting type rules??

Thanks

James Miller

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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 668
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93  7:52p
Subj: CD's 4 SALE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have one each of the following CDROM titles for sale at prices stated: 
 
$6.00   TaxPrep 1993--Chestnut title. Not just tax forms for 1993 but 
                      various tax/business programs and files (over 
                      700 various files) 
$8.00   Deathstar Arcade Battles--Chestnut title. About 400 various games. 
$8.00   Technotools--Chestnut title. Tools and utils for various programming 
                     languages. 
$8.00   MPC Wizard--Test & tune-up CDROM disc for Windows 
$12.00  Rotor--Three commercial arcade games ROTOR, AIRBALL & TIME BANDIT 
               plus about 100 NASA GIF files. 
$12.00  GIFs Galore--over 5000 color GIFs in various catagories. No X rated. 
$15.00  Barney Bear Goes to School--for ages 2-6. Listen to stories and play 
                                    various education activities. 
$15.00  the Manhole--A graphic fantasy exploration (just use mouse) for ages 
                     4-7+. 
$15.00  Gallery of Dreams--Over 500 24-bit TIFF various catagory images. Can 
                           display slide show with QT for WIN files on CDROM.

$20.00  Federal Register--Find out what's going on in Government, ACTs and 
                          Bills passed etc. from 11-13-92 to 5-14-93. Makes 
                          for some interesting reading at times. Easy to use 
                          search engine on disc. 
$20.00  American Business Phone Book--New, still in shrink wrap. 10 million+ 
                                      American business listings and over 1 
                                      million Canadian listings. 
$20.00  Multimedia Toolbook--Asymetrix Toolbook 1.5 evaluation edition. Lets 
                             a person develop a multimedia presentation for 
                             WIN 3.1 and check out the program before 
                             spending $595.00 list to see if it's right for 
                             you. Limits developmental time to 6 hours of 
                             work per project. 
 
 
All prices are firm and do not include shipping. For shipping: 1st item $2.00

2nd item $1.00 more, 3rd and above $.50 more each. 


Sorry but to make this easier for me, these are for sale in U.S. only. No
COD. 
A money order gets same day first class shipping, and a check gets a 5 bank 
working day hold. All orders will get a letter telling status of order,
return 
of monies, etc. as needed. 
 
Send order to: 
 
Paul Swider 
509 Digger St. 
Las Vegas, Nv. 
89107 
 
If you have to discuss anything about the titles or concerning an order, 
please call me at (702) 877-4907 from 1PM to 9PM PDST. Thanks. 
 
>Paul< 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50  "I never nake misteakes." 

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 669
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 06/03/93 12:58p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KR>Howdy Jim,

KR> JL> Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer
KR> JL> Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address, and we'd
be

KR>Kirk Rawnsley
KR>5128 Grove Hill Road SW
KR>Calgary Alberta
KR>T3E 4G6

KR>          Kirk Rawnsley
KR>          Rules are for Other People

KR>--- GoldED 2.40
KR> * Origin: We are Not Saints, Calgary Alberta (403) 246-8669 (1:134/26)

I would like a catalog, PLEASE
Sam Figueroa
Sam's Software
Rt 2 Box 2453-A
Manchester, TN 37355


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 670
  To: VERNON MELTON                            Date: 06/05/93  4:44p
Subj: Re: cd's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

VM>                    -=> Quoting Brandan Upson to All <=-

VM> BU> Ultima VI and Wing commander $25.00   Both on same CD.
VM>Brandan,
VM>    I will offer one Languages of the World CD in trade for the Wing
VM>Commander CD-ROM.  It has dictionary's and can translate the following
VM>languages:
VM>          English
VM>          French
VM>          German
VM>          Italian
VM>          Spanish
VM>          Dutch
VM>          Japanese (Both major versions of Japanese with pictures
VM>                   of the correct character)
VM>          Chinese  (I think it's Mandarin with pictures of the
VM>                   correct character)
VM>          Norwegian
VM>          Danish
VM>          Finnish
VM>          Swedish                                     (146 k)
VM>It can be used as a stand alone reference or run as a large TSR with your
VM>favorite editor.  I am proposing a even trade.  Thank you.
VM>Later,
VM>      Vernon Melton

VM>... The Earth is 98% full.  Please DELETE anyone you can.
VM>--- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR]
VM> * Origin: The Evans BBS,616-754-6180,1500 Megs & 10 CD-ROM's
(1:2390/10.0)
 I am interested in buying this CD if you will sell it and for what
 price, I might have something to trade, leave me of what you want to
 trade and I might have it or call me at:
                                Sam Figeuroa
                                Sam's Software
                                (615) 728-7383
                                Manchester's Best Software Distributer!
         Thanks!?


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 671
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 06/05/93  4:48p
Subj: Re: Adult cd's to swap                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KP>On 02 Jun 93  06:36:00, I heard Terry Woodward shout to Kevin Plummer:

KP>KP>  Well I have Volcano (ADULT) and VGA Spectrum for trade, If
interested,
KP>Jus
KP>TW> KP>leave me a Note...
KP>TW>
KP>TW> I'm interested in the Volcano. What's VGA Spectrum?
KP>TW>

KP>VGA Spectrum is a Shareware disk with a little bit of everything on it,
KP>Everything from .GIF's, to Utilities...

KP>                        ......|<evin

KP>--- Squish v1.01
KP> * Origin: The Softwares Zone  (1:231/570)
 What would you take for either of these CD's?
                                Sam Figueroa


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 672
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 06/07/93  9:46a
Subj: CDROM RETAILER                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>GH+If you would like a catalog of over 400 CDROM titles.....

MB>        Hello Gabe,

MB>        Please send one to me:
MB>                Michael Booth
MB>                31 Bethesda Ct.
MB>                Sacramento, CA 95838

MB>Michael


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(1:203/5
Hello Gabe,
        Please send me a catalog at:
        Sam's Software
        Sam Figueroa
        Rt 2 Box 2453-A
        Manchester, Tn 37355
                                   Thanks?!


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 673
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/09/93 11:44p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BOX INSERTS                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <06-07-93 20:39> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> Did you get my message about needing 2-3 BB jewel box inserts?

No I did not get the message--Since I have about 1,000 covers I cannot use
now, I'm sure I can get 3 off to you--

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 674
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/09/93 11:54p
Subj: Re:  Florida Lion's Den In In           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <06-07-93 20:29> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>>  LN> I am in love with the CHINON 535 series ROM drive--I want one, N

BJ>> Ooooooooooh! Tell me more. I was sorta saving up for a fast Texel..

Talk to Chinon at 1-800-441-0222, it's a dual speed, multisession, multimedia
workhorse:

Highlights:

  PC/MPC and Mac/QUick Time Compatible
  Photo CD capability-Multisession
  Formats: High Sierra, ISO 9660, APPLE HFS, XA
  Dual Speed 300K/Sec. Sustained Transfer Rate
  256K Data Buffer
  280 ms Average Access Time
  Daisychain Connection for 7 drives
  Device Driver & CD-Audio Play software
  Dip Switch Termination
  Built in headphone Jack & Stereo Output
  Small footprint
  Dust protection Through Auto Pickup lens Cleaning, Double doors
     and sealed mechanisms.
  Data Transfer rate is 150/Ksec Normal Speed
                        300K/sec Double Speed

Hope this helps--It sold me ! It has impressive video transfer speed. My
next choice is the Pioneer.

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 675
  To: SABINE VAN DEN AUDENAERDE                Date: 06/10/93 12:06a
Subj: Re: Is this "service" ???               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Mike Shannon <06-04-93 09:04> Sabine Van Den Audenaerde
wrote:

SV>> for a package deal on Pier1+2 & Night Owls 8 ... and maybe Busty
SV>> Babes ... I need to know all extra costs .....

I am the publisher of Busty Babes and I know there is a company called
Bestware, that has some left--They are located in Belgium. This disc is out
of print now because of multiple lawsuits, so get one while you can because
they are tough to find and the prices are going up on them because of there
value now--

Good Luck,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 676
  To: MIKE PETRO                               Date: 06/10/93 12:11a
Subj: Re: NEW CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Boris Osadciw <06-06-93 12:39> Mike Petro wrote:

MP>> **** E N C Y C L O P E D I A   O F  C L I P A R T *********

MP>> ARE THE CLIPART IMAGES 300 DPI? I WAS DISAPPOINTED WITH ALL THE 75
MP>> DPI
MP>> ON CLIPART GOLIATH. AT LEAST IT HAD SOME 300 DPI....

As one of the author's let me answer this one--*YOU BET*, they are all
300-600DPI, no junk, no dupes--11,000+, and the book which will picture all
of these will be out end of July-August, but the disc is available now.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 677
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/10/93  2:08p
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den In               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <06-08-93 22:56> Darin Celino wrote:

DC>> I missed you too.  Checked at the TradeShows booth on Mon, Tue, and
DC>> Wed......oh well........Picked up a BB while I was there.

Well, your going to have to meet me to get Busty Babes II :)

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 678
  To: CRAIG TIANO                              Date: 06/10/93  2:27p
Subj: Re: asian ladies                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to CHRIS BARRETT <06-09-93 10:38> CRAIG TIANO wrote:

CT>> If you want to produce an Adult CDROM, you better have your own
CT>> original material or material from a reliable source who created the
CT>> material.

Excellent advice, and truely the wave of the industry--Distributor's are
getting as paranoid as the publisher's---We appreciate your assistance in
getting the word out about copyright infringements, because I would hate to
see somebody go through 1/10th of what I have been put through with several
suits I have before me.

Hence, if we don't have model releases on GIFS, or 100% release of liability,
we don't play--Shareware is another big market for suits, and it's getting to
the point where a publisher will have to get written permission to use each
and every program on the disc--

1993 has proven to be the year of lawsuits, and between your goodwill and
mine, hopefully we can save somebody from making those mistakes innocently
that are nailing us bigger companies 2 years later...

Publisher's have the potential to make a nice return on their efforts, but
most profits end up with the attorneys that represent us--The days for
fast/easy bucks are gone forever--Since CD-ROMS are breaking new territories,
you need at least 25K in escrow to ward off those that are starting to police
and regulate the industry--All our infringements were out of ignorance, and
in the Court of law that has little bearing--

Knowing what I do after 2 years in the publishing biz, I wouldn't be one.
It's something you really want to take a hard educated look at, legally. The
legal side was never a concern 2 years ago, and the days of "HomeGrown"
disc's are gone, and most all forthcoming disc's will almost qualify as
commercial because of the licensed material to the publisher--

There is no tolerance for the smallest of infringements--Very risky, risky
business now.

Thanks !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 679
  To: LEE HICKERSLY                            Date: 06/10/93  2:31p
Subj: Re: .TXT files                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <06-08-93 17:36> Lee Hickersly wrote:

LH>> Is there a cd that specializes in Adult .TXT files? Does anyone have
LH>> a large amount of them built up from other cd's?

No, no such disc exists--Keep in mind most all adult stories go uncensored,
and many of the stories involve incest/beastiality etc--Please take the time
to screen them if you plan to distribute them-No publisher wants to read
hundreds of stories to screen out those that are Federally Obscene, much to
time consuming.

Just some friendly advice--

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 680
  To: DEAN SCOTT                               Date: 06/10/93  2:33p
Subj: Re: Used CD's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <05-20-93 06:30> Dean Scott wrote:
DS>>          Nix Pix 1-4
DS>>          Hot Pix 1-4

Hon',

    These 2 series I quoted above are one and the same.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 681
  To: WARREN DANIO                             Date: 06/10/93  2:43p
Subj: GEEZ                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Kirk Rawnsley <06-09-93 02:27> Warren Danio wrote:

WD>>         ANYBODY HAVING A REAL BUSINESS SHOULD HAVE AN 800 #....

I agree that transporting catalog requests do clutter things a bit, but I am
a sysop as well as publisher of CD's, and I look at mail tossing as part of
the job--I carry thousands of messages to other sysops in packets I know
nothing about--They surely aren't interests of mine, but I carry the packets
nevertheless because that is what a sysops does--Like it or not.

It would be nice, if this echo would have the dealers provide phone numbers
so that requests can be made another way besides in this echo--But, as a
business woman, I *REFUSE* to have an 800 number so that I can pay .33 cents
per minute for the type of individual that opts to spend my money instead of
putting some effort forth and reading documentation--

When distribs set up 800 numbers for orders, often times folks will use that
number for other things--So, IMHO, judging successful companies with 800
numbers is a little bias :)

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 682
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 06/10/93  6:12p
Subj: Re: Adult cd's to swap                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KP>TW> Thanks. I'm up to my ears in Shareware disks. Want to trade for the
KP>TW> volcano disk? Send to:
KP>TW> Terry Woodward
KP>TW> Suite 294
KP>TW> 2269 S. University Drive
KP>TW> Davie, Fl 33324
KP>TW>
KP>TW> Leave me an address and I'll send the cdrom. Which disk was it that
you
KP>TW> wanted?

KP>Terry,

KP>  Okay, What disk did you have again ??  And Once I get your Reply Back, I
KP>will ship the disk that day...

Adult Reference Library
Smutware
PC Pix II
My Private Collection, II

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 683
  To: JAMES MILLER                             Date: 06/12/93  4:32p
Subj: New to this Echo                        Refer: 4109
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Mission Control BBS is new to this echo.  Are there any rules and reg
-> to know about besides the usual No FLAMING!! or shouting type rules??

Not really... Just use your brain.

tim
moderator
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From: STEPHEN GUPTON                         Number: 684
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/11/93 10:12a
Subj: SUM NU STUF!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Jun1110:12, Mike Shannon of 1:3407/101 writes:

SG>     I spoke with 3 differant distributors and all say this 
SG> disk is hosed up, and yet, they were honest enough to point 
SG>this out rather than just make a

 MS> Stephen,

 MS> What's "hosed up" about it?  I've sold around 40 of these, and 
 MS> not a single complaint so far.  The sister CD "Shareware 93" 
 MS> is another story however. That disc is missing several files 
 MS> AND directories, and I'm now liquidating them at my cost and 
 MS> telling my customers up front that it does have some definite 
 MS> problems.  Haven't heard anything negative about Games 93 
 MS> until now, so can you be more specific than just "hosed up"?
     The way it was described to me was the fact that over 300 files listed  
        were not there and the files.bbs were not correct.

 <*=- Stephen -=*> 

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From: ROBERT LEE                             Number: 685
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93  5:17p
Subj: Maximus BBS-specific CDRom Door         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Wish that Maximus BBS better supported CDRoms instead of having to use up
your harddrive with CDRom-related Files.bbs's?  Wish you didn't have to FB
Maximus everytime you switched CDs?  Wish you could switch CD's in a minute
instead of 10 minutes?  Wish you could lock certain CDRom files out in the
cold so users can't download them?

Want a CDrom Door that will do fast global searches of files/text and allow
users to tag files?

Wish you had a CDRom door that would automatically adjust Maximus's
USERS.BBS to show user activity on a CDRom and have the benefits of
side-stepping Maximus's clumsy handling of CDRoms?


Well then, friend, this is for you!  Call New Century BBS (309)797-6027 or
at 1:232/31 and download/FReq CDMAXDOR.ZIP and try it out.  You'll be
pleased and so will your users.  CDMAXDOOR.ZIP is about 175K.  Shareware.
Fully documented.  Automated installation assistance.  If you're running MAX
and NiteOwl 8, PowerBox v1.00, or PowerPak Gold '92 CD's then this will be a
real treat as CDMAXDOOR.ZIP comes with preconfigs for these three CDroms.

Give it a try....  if you like it, register it.  Unregistered CDMAXDOR.ZIP
works fine... but will show a non-registered message and a brief delay every
now and then.

FReq'able at 1:232/31 as CDMAXDOR.ZIP (175k)

Downloadable at New Century BBS (309)797-6027.


Online support for users at the above BBS.

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From: BEN BYRD                               Number: 686
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/09/93  4:35p
Subj: Mail                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi my friend would like mail from all you companies out there.  His
address is:

Cascade High School
Dave Daily
801 Casino Road
Everett, WA. 98203

Thank you for your time.

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From: BEN BYRD                               Number: 687
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/09/93  9:09p
Subj: Catalogs                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi I have a teacher interested in recieving Catalogs on DTP and clip art
stuff please send it to:

Dianne Jonhson
Cascade High School
Casino Road
Everett WA. 98203


Thank you Ben Byrd and Mrs. Jonhson

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From: THOMAS TRAN                            Number: 688
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/11/93 10:59a
Subj: Sega CD roms                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone out there have any used SEGA CD games for sale??  l8r!!

              \/\/hiz  TVT


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 689
  To: WARREN DANIO                             Date: 06/11/93 11:19a
Subj: GEEZ                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 WD>        AWAY CASH CUSTOMERS WHO GET DAM TIRED OF "SEND CATALOG TO  
 WD>        ANYBODY HAVING A REAL BUSINESS SHOULD HAVE AN 800 #....    
                                                                       
  
Speaking only for myself, but as a cash customer, I don't mind the "send 
me a catalog" posts. I think in the aggregate they're a coarse 
indicator of the growing interest in the field, and that's of passing 
interest to me, personally. I'm not sure it's necessary for the dealers 
to reply to every such request, but even if they do as a way of being 
responsive (an excellent business practice), it takes me only a fraction 
of a second to skip by them. I suppose I could even configure my reader 
to filter out "catalog" posts if I took the time to do that - but I 
probably won't bother. 
  
I'm trying to understand why a person would stop doing business with a 
dealer just because some third party asked the dealer for a catalog. 
That doesn't make any sense to me. I'm not the moderator of this echo, 
but it seems to operate as a kind of electronic flea market where 
individuals and merchants alike can sell/trade CDs. If that's even 
partially true, knowing what's available for purchase is central to the 
theme. As most dealers offer far more CDs than they ever post listings 
of here, a catalog of some kind is a necessity. 
  
You gave your opinion, now I given mine. End of thread from this end. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 690
  To: ANDREW MURPHY                            Date: 06/11/93 11:33a
Subj: Gif/Anim disks ?                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 AM> Also looking for an R gif disk.  I have heard Giffy Gold is a pr  
 AM> good one.  Any comments on it?  Any other recomendations?         
                                                                       
  
Personally, I didn't like Giffy Gold, and it's not strictly an "R" disk 
to boot. I think you'd be a lot happier with one of the other "lingere" 
CDs that many of the dealers here offer. I don't have a recommendation 
on "G" CDs, but Boris Osadciw, Mike Shannon, Dave Reed, and others can 
set you on the right path. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 691
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/11/93 11:15a
Subj: SHAREWARE CD COMPARISONS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> Are my figures still suspect? <g>                                 
                                                                       
  
Nope! You've cleared that up. I suspect others had a similar 
interpretation, tho'. Boy, I wish that program was smart enough to work 
on image CDs! I guess it might as long as the same image was always 
tagged with the same title - too much to ask, I guess :( .  Well, if Lee 
Noga's right, we won;t have to put up with re-hashed files much longer. 
Can't wait for that day <GGG>. 
  
Cheers! 
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From: JAMES DUNLAP                           Number: 692
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/12/93  2:17a
Subj: Cd Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi All, I would like to recieve CD Rom catalogs from any dealers that wish
to send one.

    Thanks: James Dunlap
            6605 Chauncey Dr.
            Memphis,Tn.38141-1207


... Success is just a matter of luck.  Ask any failure.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: TONY D. BERRY                          Number: 693
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 06/11/93  2:51a
Subj: Private Pictures CDROM                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CB> I have one copy of the cdrom disc Private Pictures for sale.

How 'bout $15 plus $2.90?

I can mail you a money order or cashiers check, your choice.

For faster response, feel free to call me at (501)521-5273.

Thanks.

Tony D. Berry

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From: TONY D. BERRY                          Number: 694
  To: JOSH BERRY                               Date: 06/11/93  2:59a
Subj: Incredible!                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Your name is the same as my brothers! I have been in the BBS scene for 12
years, calling to and fro, from state to state, even overseas, and this is
the first I have seen that!

Anyway, do you have some CD software for sale? If so, I am interested. Please
respond with titles and asking price.

Tony D. Berry

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From: ANDREW MURPHY                          Number: 695
  To: CHRIS BARRETT                            Date: 06/10/93  7:03a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  > VGA Spectrum is a Shareware disk with a little bit of everything o
->  > it, Everything from .GIF's, to Utilities...
->
->     Just thought I would interject... VGA Spectrum 2 (note: TWO) is N
-> like VGA Spectrum 1. I was greatly dissapointed by the fact VGA Spect
-> NO pictures... It did contain a lot of great sound files, and a few c
-> shareware games (Apogee stuff).
->
->     Just incase you were thinking of buying the 2nd one, don't unless
-> sound related stuff.

I agree.  I just got it too, after seeing someone elses VGASectrum I.
It is parked on a shelf, back in it's original box.  Took about 5
minutes to decide it wasn't worth putting on the BBS, though it would
make a great basisi for a system demo in a store or something.  There
are a lot of nice animations.  That just sin't what I bought it for!


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From: JOHN LEONARD                           Number: 696
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93  8:40p
Subj: ROMS for trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

- Night Owl - Business Application Disk - pressed 10-92
              NOPV_BUSINESS,  106MB   $15.00
.
- Night Owl - Daytime Express           - pressed 11-92
              563MB   $15.00
.
- IDG Enterprise Computing 6 month sampler.  IDG's response
  to Ziff's Computer Select.  Contains 6 recent months of full text 
  for: Computer World, Infoworld, Network World, and the Editorial 
  Base for additional IDG publications. - pressed 2-93
              40,000 articles, 443MB   $40.00
.
I'd like to trade (no games) for other CD-ROMS.  Echo, 
or call 215-354-0330 (day), 215-642-4361 (eve).  John...
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 697
  To: BRIAN WHEATLEY                           Date: 06/11/93  5:58a
Subj: Re: Cd-Rom                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Just wondering everyone, is 700ms to slow to use a CD-ROM for a BBS? Like
> a shareware cd, for downloading etc... Thanks...
> Brian.
It is not. TTYL 

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From: MARLINA MALONEY                        Number: 698
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 06/11/93  9:55a
Subj: MITSUMI AUDIO                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >> yeah. it's a small tsr.  just don't use DESQVIEW with it, and you'll 
conti
 > nue
 >>to enjoy it.

 > Odd - I can play audio on MY Mitsumi under Desqview here....


Why just make a comment... why not share your set up with those that might be
having a problem? Your response, as is, is just a waste of byte space.

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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 699
  To: GORDON IRELAND                           Date: 06/11/93 10:46p
Subj: Comdex                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

|GI> Could someone please tell me when the next COMDEX will be.             |
|GI>                                                                        |
|GI> I believe it will be in Las Vegas and need to know exact dates.        |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Call the producers of the show at 617-449-6600.  They should have a
date nailed down for at least the next four shows by now.
___
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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 700
  To: ANDREW MURPHY                            Date: 06/11/93 10:49p
Subj: Gif/Anim disks ?                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

|AM> Also looking for an R gif disk.  I have heard Giffy Gold is a pretty   |
|AM> good one.  Any comments on it?  Any other recomendations?              |
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IMHO It is a great disc.  Mostly R rated.  I can't wait till the next
one comes out.....Bill, if you are listening maybe you could tell us
if you are going to do another one.
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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 701
  To: CARLOS RODRIGUEZ                         Date: 06/11/93 10:21p
Subj: Shareware Cd Compariso                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

|CR> Am I reading this chart correctly?  I'm not trying to be a smart ***   |
|CR> but looking at pr1 compared to pr1, shouldn't it be 100% duplicate     |
|CR> files since it is the same CD?  Same for pr2, and no7?  The way I'm    |
|CR> reading it, pr1 compared to itself only duplicates .06%, pr2 to itself |
|CR> .00%, and no7 to itself .06%!  It looks like a very informative chart  |
|CR> but I can't figure out if I'm reading it right!  Please explain b/c I'd|
|CR> like to use the chart.                                                 |
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In the CD world there are often files on the same disc that are
duplicated elsewhere on the disc.  It is possible that this comparison
program is reporting what % of the files on the disk are on there more
than once.
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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 702
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/11/93  7:48a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MB> I have Physical Therapy, volume 3, an almost exact duplicate of XXX
 TW> Mike, I have PcPixII, Smutware, Adult refference Library, and My
 TW> Private collection II for swap. Want to deal?

I already told someone else to send me a disc in trade for it.  If it does'nt
show within the week, I would trade it for MPC II.  Give me time to properly
wait, and I will get back to you.  Layterz

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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 703
  To: NED ALLISON                              Date: 06/10/93  7:37a
Subj: MSCDEX PROBLEM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks Ned; That was the answer.  The 2nd problem with the Microsoft
Bookshelf was somthing I don't really understand, but it appears the the 486
modifies the software as it uses it. And the cd-rom softward also is making
changes and "never the twain shall meet" JUST LOCKUP!  Clint

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 704
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/11/93  2:42p
Subj: ADULT CD-sale or trade...               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have STORM II adult CD-ROM for sale or trade, I would prefer to
trade...        Leave message here if interested...
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From: CHRIS KOPENEC                          Number: 705
  To: BRIAN PUNTNEY                            Date: 06/11/93  9:10p
Subj: CDs cheap!                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I could use some of those 2 for 15 CD's too.  Please leave a message here
or call my board at 214-219-0428.  The name is Silicon City BBS.


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From: CHRIS KOPENEC                          Number: 706
  To: SCOTT FISHER                             Date: 06/11/93  9:11p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Add me to the list, too.
 
My address is:
 
Silicon City BBS
Chris Kopenec
1055 Elmwood
Lewisville, TX
75067-5013
 
Thanks


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From: CHRIS KOPENEC                          Number: 707
  To: DOUG BURDEN                              Date: 06/11/93  9:12p
Subj: FREE CD-ROM CATALOGS!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Add me too!
 
Address:
 
Silicon City BBS
Chris Kopenec
Lewisville, TX
75067-5013


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From: CHRIS KOPENEC                          Number: 708
  To: GREGORY WYNOT                            Date: 06/11/93  9:14p
Subj: CD'S 4-SALE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Phoenix 3.0.  Only $10 for the other?  Great deal.  Send me some
info and help me get my stuff really going on the BBS.
 
Silicon City BBS
Chris Kopenec
1055 Elmwood
Lewisville, TX
75067-5013


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From: CHRIS KOPENEC                          Number: 709
  To: B.A. CROWELL                             Date: 06/11/93  9:18p
Subj: NEW CATALOG IS DONE!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send one to me, too.
 
Silicon City BBS
Chris Kopenec
1055 Elmwood
Lewisville,TX
75067-5013


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From: CHRIS KOPENEC                          Number: 710
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/11/93  9:19p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm not sure if I wrote to you yet, but send me a catalog. 
 
Silicon City BBS
Chris Kopenec
1055 Elmwood
Lewisville, TX
75067-5013


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From: GREG ARMENIA                           Number: 711
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/12/93  1:44a
Subj: The Pier Shareware CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  NEW CD-ROM RELEASE  <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

   *********************************************************************

   The Only CD-ROM HOTTER and More CURRENT Then The Pier Shareware #1 Is


                   T h e   P i e r   S h a r e w a r e  #2

                               Now Shipping

                               Only $49.00

                  ORDERS ONLY 1 - 8 0 0 - 4 3 8 - 9 7 3 4

   *********************************************************************

              The HOTTEST and most CURRENT Shareware CD-ROM on
              the market! Nearly 5,000 files in 50 different
              Subjects, and 75% dated 1993, and 25% 1992.

     The Pier Exchange is proud to present the HOTTEST and MOST CURRENT
     Shareware CD-ROM two disc SET on the market. 100% of the files on
     The Pier Shareware #2 are TRULY dated 1992-1993 files. The Pier
     Exchange has ensured this with "Smart Date Checking." Dated files
     (i.e. FILE_ID.DIZ, READ.ME...) within the archives are disregarded
     giving you TRULY the latest files.


      S P E C A I L   T W O   D I S C   O F F E R

    OVER 10,000 of The Most CURRENT Shraeware Files Available On CD-ROM

    We GUARANTEE it with a 30 day money back ASSURANCE!!!

        The Pier Shareware #1
        The Pier Shareware #2                 **************************
                                              *                        *
      Two Disc Set For ONLY                   *        Subjects        *
                                              *                        *
              $59.00                          * ---------------------- *
                                              *  Windows  Applications *
     Just Ask For "The NET Special"           *      Windows Games     *
                                              *  Programing Languages  *
 The Pier Shareware #2 CD-ROM Features:       *    Programing Tools    *
                                              *   SVGA  GIF Pictures   *
 * Nearly 5,000 files                         *  Educational Programes *
 * 661 Megs of files                          *  Games / Entertainment *
 * <ASP> directory                            *   Sound Blaster /MIDI  *
 * 75% files dated 1993, 25% 1992 SDI         *      DTP / Clipart     *
   (Smart Date Checking in place)             *          Bible         *
 * THE PIER retrieval software contained      *    Medical / Health    *
   on the CD-ROM (easy file access)           *     Word Processing    *
 * All files have been scanned for            *   Laser/Printer Utils  *
   viruses with the latest McAfee SCAN        *  BBS  Programs / Doors *
 * Full GAP, PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat!      *      Communications    *
   Remote Access (FILES.BBS) Support          *          Legal         *
 * Less then 1% duplication between           *   OS/2 Programs/Utils  *
   The Pier Shareware #1                      *                        *
 * Less then 1% duplication between           *   And Much Much More!  *
   Night Owl 8                                **************************

 The Pier Shareware #1 CD-ROM Features:

 * Nearly 6,000 files
 * 640+ Megs of Shareware files
 * <ASP> directory
 * 99% files dated 1992, 50% newer then 8/92
   (smart date checking in place)                    IS0 9660
 * Pier1 retrieval software contained
   on the CD-ROM (easy file access)
 * All files have been scanned for
   viruses with the latest McAfee SCAN
 * Full GAP, PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat!
   BBS Support
 * Less then 1% duplication between
   Night Owl 7 and 16% Night Owl 8

       Disc Sold Separately

        The Pier Shareware #1 - 29.00     30 Day Money Back
Guarantee!!!!
        The Pier Shareware #2 - 49.00


 Order by voice, FAX, or BBS online ORDER door. The cost of the CD-ROM
 is only $49.00 plus $5.00 shipping & handling, ($8.00 overseas). We
 accept all major cerdit cards, check, and money order. Checks and money
 orders must be US funds and drawn on  US banks. Make checks payable to:
 The Pier Exchange, 128 Carmel Rd., Buffalo NY 14214


                ORDERS ONLY 1 - 8 0 0 - 4 3 8 - 9 7 3 4


 The Pier Exchange, 128 Carmel Rd., Buffalo NY 14214, BBS 716/875-3130
 14.4 BBS 716/875-0283 16.8, Information or FAX 716/875-4931 RIME ->1376


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 712
  To: SCOTT STADLER                            Date: 06/11/93  1:38p
Subj: Re: pricing                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Boris,  What is the price you would charge for a Toshipb 3401
>>    internal Pro Audio Spectrum card, and all controllers and
>>    cables necc. for both music cd and cdRom sound, as well as
>>    some inexpensive shielded speakers.  thanks Scott

Your cost would be $659. for a straight SCSI interface system and
$759. for a bus address scsi interface. This would give you all of the
above plus a FREE cd on us.

If your interested, call us at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to discuss
it further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 713
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 06/11/93  1:38p
Subj: Re: Pioneer Special                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>>Pioneer DMR 600 - 600ms / 150kps - bare drive  - PRICE $ 799.00
  >>Pioneer DMR 604X -350ms / 600kps - bare drive  - PRICE $1199.00
>>
>>     Boris,
>>            Have you heard any dates on the triple-cartridge
>>            (18cdrom) changer being developed by pioneer? Any word
>>     on price? thanks 

Yes and No !! We've heard about it from Pioneer, but as for price and specs,
nothing concrete.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Now 100% QWK Compatible! More bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 714
  To: DONALD MACKAY                            Date: 06/11/93  1:38p
Subj: Re: Cd rom drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Hello Boris,
>>        I am looking for some info in the area of CD ROMs.  I
>>        really don't know very much about the CD interface
>>     methedology. I am looking for either a SCSI CD ROM and
>>     Adaptec SCSI 2 controller pair or a CD ROM that is either
>>     proprietry or IDE (if there is such a beast) that will work
>>     with OS/2.1. I would like a drive that will work with my
>>     Soundblaster ASP16 board as well. What would you suggest and
>>     what do you have available? What kind of performance are we
>>     talking about?

Ok, well part of what your asking for is not available in any format.
But, the best system for the your $$ would be a Texel as it offer's great
value and reliabilty as well as performance and compatiablity.

The Texel will work with the Adaptec as well as OS/2 2.1 and Windows NT.

As for the SBPro, you can only use the audio portion of the system as it
will not support the Texel and any of the major scsi systems directly.

Hope this helps, if not, your welcome to call us direct at 216-225-3263
anytime and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Xpress Yourself!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 715
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/12/93  1:43a
Subj: NEW RELEASE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

++++++++++++++++++ BRAND NEW - DIGITAL DREAMS +++++++++++++++++++++
        New Adult CD - BBS Ready - All NEW High Res Scans
           630+ megs - Over 30 Dirs - 100 + per Dir
 X-Rated     Files BBS Support In Two Formats       Disk Rated A+
              High Quality Front End w/Mouse

  Price - $35.00 - C.C.I Customers Call For Your Special Discount

For additional Info - call - 216-225-3263 To ORDER ONLY 800-243-0517

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't Read Mail Without it!
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From: ADRIAN PENDELL                         Number: 716
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93  5:22p
Subj: 7th Guest...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        I have really been wanting to buy this game, and, infact,
        actually had taken it up to the register to buy it when I
        noticed the box said it requires an SVGA monitor w/ 1 meg RAM
        -is this true? If so, it seems a real dissapointment for those
        of us who don't have SVGA cards ( I, personally, can't see a
        damn bit of difference between the two..), and this would, along
        w/ LInks 386, be only the second game i've ever seen that had
        such a requirement...Thanks ahead of time...


... Mary had a little RAM -- only about a MEG or so.
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From: BRIAN HURLEY                           Number: 717
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 06/11/93 10:01a
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MA>                         The MARKetplace!

MA>Star Trek/     $25.00 1200 GIF photo's of Star Trek, The Next
  >Fantasy               Generation, Star Wars,  100+ sound files, Fantasy
  >                      Creatures, Dungeon's and Dragons, Conan, Star Trek
  >                      Games.  NEW AND COMPLETLEY BBS READY!

Can you send me more info of this cd.  Like where did the ST gifs come from?
How much is on the disk.  Do you have a file list that I can download
somewhere, or that you can mail either to me here or to my internet address?
hurley@spdc.ti.com


Thanks for the info,

Brian


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From: REN JUST                               Number: 718
  To: STEVE LIN                                Date: 06/10/93  9:36p
Subj: LINUX CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Lots more means there are something like 34,000+ files on the CD-ROM.  That
includes kermit, uucp, sound card support, Ghostscript, TeX, xmodem, zmodem,
DOS emulation...  I think you are getting the picture.  The total is
something like 245MB for both the binaries and source for them.
 
If you want more information you can call me at 707-769-1648.  Or write
 
Just Computers!
P.O. Box 751414
Petaluma, CA 94975-1414
 
At $49.95 for this CD-ROM, it is an unbeatable deal.

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From: MARK SMITKA                            Number: 719
  To: RICK ASHWORTH                            Date: 06/11/93  8:03p
Subj: 7th guest trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Quoting Rick Ashworth's message to Mark Smitka, in pertinent part:

RA}I'm too tired to figger that out, so I'll take that as a compliment! <

I found humor in the fact that you were offering the Bible as a trade for
T7G. No offense intended. :-)

RA}Actually, I already have T7G, but I'll always try to scavenge extras
RA}for friends around here!  They're all jealous, and local outlets RA}are
sold out, except for Babbages for $79!

Got mine at a local show for $49. For you or anyone else interested, you
might try MicroLink at (216)974-2006. They list it for $50 in their flyer.

===
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From: NATHAN KLASSEN                         Number: 720
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93 12:15p
Subj: 486/sx 33                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey if anyone has a deal on a 486/sx 33 mother board with 4 meg of ram let
me know and I might purcahse it!
Thanks
Nathan K.!

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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 721
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/11/93 10:16a
Subj: cd WinBox                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Mike

Was just wondering if you have started shipping cd winbox yet...Hope you have
received my moneyorder by now.......

..Red..

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 722
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/12/93  2:59p
Subj: CdRom Drives                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $220.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00

Both Drives Include:  60 Day Warranty, External DIP switches, True 50 pin
  SCSI, 350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume, newest ROM
  installed.  Diagnostic/cleaning done by service center.  NO special
  drivers required.  5.25 - Half Height Drive. 64k Buffer and manual.

205-837-5053 -=- Leave Message if not home, it WILL be returned -=-



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From: ANDY YEE                               Number: 723
  To: JOHN DECARLO                             Date: 06/12/93  3:11a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

how much are you asking for it?>


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From: ANDY YEE                               Number: 724
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 06/12/93  3:15a
Subj: Private Pictures CDROM                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

how much do you want for it?


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 725
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/11/93  3:30p
Subj: Windows Users!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                      -= CD PowerBox =-

Slated to be the new industry standard, the PowerBox is over 650 megs
of shareware!  This disk actually has BOTH a Windows-based and a
DOS-based Graphical User Interface!  Forget the Nightowl series, the
PowerBox offers an affordable option.  Only $19.95!

                       -= CD WinBox =-

This is THE Windows disk available today!  Supporting Win3.x AND the
new Windows NT, the WinBox has over 630 Megs of pure Windows
shareware.  Use the Windows based installation program to quickly
start accessing this disk with its Windows Graphical Interface!  Now
only $19.95!

Please mention this FidoNet ad to get these special prices!  These discs are
normally sold for $34 each to our "regular" customers.

Dave Reed
CD-ROM International
(800) 678-2374 (Orders)
(509) 754-0724 (Voice)
(509) 754-0109 (BBS/Fax)

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From: PAUL HAMMERSCHMIDT                     Number: 726
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/11/93  2:57a
Subj: Problem with a CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi all... I have a Sony CDRom, and all of a sudden, the darn thing keeps
spitting out the disks. It won't let the caddy and the disk stay in the
drive.
When, on the rare occasion it does, when I try and access the drive, it says
that the drive won't respond. Any suggestions? It's only happening with the
Adult ROM that I use on my bbs, not with other roms. Could it be that the
disk
is defective/scratched and the laser won't read it????

Please help!

Thanks in advance,
Paul
 
... Keep Clinton warm this winter he hates the draft.
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From: DAN WAGNER                             Number: 727
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 06/09/93 10:21p
Subj: 4 EXTERNAL CD DRIVES $600               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi,
Im interested in your 4 Hitachi drives. Do you have some specs on them?
Also what would you charge for shiping overseas to South Africa.
What types of payment would you accept?

Thanks
Dan Wagner
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From: JIM REED                               Number: 728
  To: JOSH BERRY                               Date: 06/10/93  4:13p
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JB>        If you have a Sound Blaster Pro or better you can look on

Hi Josh;
        Thanks for the info - You have me very close to upgrading my SB
        to a PRO.
                                /JIM/

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From: JIM REED                               Number: 729
  To: JERE WESSELL                             Date: 06/10/93  4:20p
Subj: asian ladies                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TH>-> -> I'm interested in the Asian Ladies CD.  Tell me more about it.
TH>-> ->
TH>-> ->                              Les
TH>-> good overall disk if you like oriental ladies.  Bunch of my older stu
TH>-> before i boight the hp scan jet IIc.  Not my best work.  Files.lst ar
TH>-> Jere, Sysop Nighthawk Adult Graphics

Hi Jere;
        Me thinks you underate yourself a little.  I for one am very
        pleased with AL.
                                /JIM/

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From: KEN CARPENTER                          Number: 730
  To: ROGER COLLINS                            Date: 06/09/93 10:02p
Subj: CorelDraw 3.0 CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RC>I'd be interested in buying your Word for Windows/Bookshelf CD for
RC>cash. How much you want? You may call me at 614-793-7291 if you'd
RC>like.

Sorry I sold the w4w/bs at work for $75.00 but thanks for the offer.



 * RM 1.0 00213 *


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From: DON HOUSTON                            Number: 731
  To: ANDREW MURPHY                            Date: 06/12/93  6:43a
Subj: Gif/anim disks ?                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 
What is a good video disk for BBS use?  Looking for G Gifs of everything
under the sun.  Animations are optional.  Anyone got any recomendations. Also
looking for an R gif disk.  I have heard Giffy Gold is a pretty good one. 
Any comments on it?  Any other recomendations?

        I am using SOFTWARE VAULT from American Data Bankers bot Vol. 1
        & Vol.2 All 1992 and some 1993 stuff. Nice folk. Their 800 # is
        775-4232. Reasonably priced and quality wares!
===
 * TLX v2.00 * Dogs crawl under gates, software crawls under Windoze....


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From: DOUG M VANVLEET                        Number: 732
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/11/93 10:58p
Subj: Hitachi Card                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello folks,
    I'm in the market for a reasonably priced contoller card for a Hitachi
CDR-3500 internal drive.  If you have one that you're wanted to part with,
please reply via this echo, netmail, or you may call voice at 919-7865662. 
I'm located in North Carolina.  Thanks!
 
                                Doug M Vanvleet
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 733
  To: CHRIS KOPENEC                            Date: 06/13/93 11:28a
Subj: NEW CATALOG IS DONE!                    Refer: 4151
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Please send one to me, too.

Chris, don't post multiple "send me a catalog" messages... Do it only
once.

tim
moderator
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From: BEN NATION                             Number: 734
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/12/93 12:47p
Subj: items for sale or trade...              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Nix Pix Hot Pix 1 (new, the banned one) -value $100-$115, will sell for $75
 
XXX Extreme -value $40-$59, will sell for $30
 
So Much Shareware 2 -value $35-$45, will sell for $25

Face Plate for a Full Tower Case (6 exposed 5 1/4's, 2 exposed 3 1/2's,
Digital display, power/turbo/hdd lights, sleek design) $30

Eye of the Beholder with clue book - $20

... will also consider trades. I'm looking for an IDE 60+ Meg drive, or 386
40MHZ MB, or 4 - 1Meg Simms (1x3x70). Will consider all offers. Call
voice 904-779-7994, BBS 904-777-0778, or E-mail.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 735
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/12/93  8:04a
Subj: Info                                    Refer: NONE
Read: 06/14/93  6:49a                       Private: No 

 TH> Sen.                                                              
 TH>                                                                   
 TH> United States Senate                                              
 TH> Washington, D.C.                                                  
                                                                       
  
Thanks, Tim. My copy goes out today. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 736
  To: TONY D. BERRY                            Date: 06/12/93  8:08a
Subj: Private Pictures CDROM                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TD> For faster response, feel free to call me at (501)521-5273.       
                                                                       
  
Got your message of Friday, 6/11 - called back and left a message. All 
four "Mega" CDs for $75+$2.90 is the best I can do. 
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From: DOUG MILLER                            Number: 737
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/12/93 10:23a
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>I am now sending out our new CD-Rom catalog from Computer Works.
JL>Anyone
JL>wishing to be added to our mailing list, please leave me a
JL>message with
JL>your address.  Specify if you are interested in adult titles.
JL>Thanks!

JL>                                                        Jim...
JL>Computer Works
JL>CD-Rom Sales!
JL>(205) 793-4481 Voice
JL>(205) 671-0092 BBS

Please add me to your mailing list...

        Doug Miller
        5409 Princess Ct.
        Lake Dallas, TX  75065

Anyother Retailers feel free to send your catalog

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From: BRIAN BUCK                             Number: 738
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/11/93  9:12p
Subj: CD Software Catalog                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Jim!
I would also like a copy of your latest CDROM software catalog that lists
ALL titles you sell.
You may forward it to:

Brian Buck
37252 Belcrest Drive
Sterling Hgts, MI  48312

Much appreciated,
Brian

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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 739
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/12/93  8:16a
Subj: Florida Lion's Den In                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

|LN> DC>> I missed you too.  Checked at the TradeShows booth on Mon, Tue, an|
|LN> DC>> Wed......oh well........Picked up a BB while I was there.         |
|LN>                                                                        |
|LN> Well, your going to have to meet me to get Busty Babes II :)           |
|LN>                                                                        |
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I hope I don't have to wait until November for it.......by that time
III should be out.....eh?

Regarding Shareware CD-Roms and the problems to be faced with
publishing such a disk in the future:  What is it that shareware
authors are sueing over.  It would seem to me that they have more to
gain than to lose if their product is distributed.  I can understand
that they get upset over these stupid publishers that remove files
from the distribution archive.....maybe they should make a statement
more boldly telling the public of the possible fines for distributing
a tampered archive.....and not be so picky with requiring a release.
I know of some authors that will never be included in a ROM....based
upon their response time's to messages of a technical nature left for
them on their BBS's.  Well, please enlighten me.
___
 X MegaMail 2.10 #0:WARNING: Removal of this TAG prohibited by law!

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 740
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 06/11/93  8:16p
Subj: MITSUMI AUDIO                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF>Odd - I can play audio on MY Mitsumi under Desqview here.... 
 
 Through the Headphone jack on front, or through soundblaster's audio 
output, wiring Mitsumi's outputs into the Soundblaster's input... 
 
...tim klan 
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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 741
  To: PAUL JANEL                               Date: 06/11/93  8:19a
Subj: I AGREE!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

People could make the replys short. NO >quotes>

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From: HOWARD ONEIL                           Number: 742
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/12/93  4:52a
Subj: Trade Wanted                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The following items are For Sale or Trade.

ITEM 1 : Omega 120,000 Volt Stun Gun  (In Box, Excellent Condition).

        FEATURES : Seperate On/Off Switch for safety.
                   Uses 2-9 Volt Alkaline or Rechargable Batteries.
                   Has Belt Clip and will disable 300 pound person
                   in less than 6 seconds. "To see EXACTLY what
                   this looks like see Batman Returns (the Movie)
                             Not a cheapie, Cost $100.00

ITEM 2 : Akai Integrated Stereo Amp  (Good Condition & works like new).

        FEATURES : Dual Tape inputs, magnetic phono & tuner inputs.
                   Subsonic Filters and has 45 Watts RMS per channel.

                   GREAT FOR A PERSON OFF TO COLLEGE

ITEM 3 : Mitsubshi 1.2 Meg 5 1/4" floppy. (Excellent Condition, 
                   Pulled from working system). GRAY

ITEM 4 : VLSI Mini 80286 Motherboard w/512k. (Good condition,
                   No Documentation, w/EMS software).

        FEATURES : Phoenix Bios & expandable to 4 megs on board,
                   using Sipp or Dram.
                   Original costs $100.00

ITEM 5 : DAEWOO 2 head VCS Video Tape recorder with remote.

        FEATURES : Remote programming, Day, Date, Time & Speed.
                   All features programable from remote or unit.
                   Excellent condition.  Cost $189.00

I would like to trade these items individually or together for the following.

Looking for : 1) Working Dot Matrix Printer.  Wide carriage.

              2) 80 Meg MFM Hard Drive (Seagate 4096) to 120 meg.
                 or IDE w/controller, or comparable drive.

              3) VGA Color or Monochrome Monitor. W/ minimum of
                 800 x 600 resolution.

              4) Mitsumi or other Internal or External CD ROM drive.

All items I've listed are in GOOD to EXCELLENT condition and those offered in
trade should be in same and guarenteed against D.O.A. or make cash offers.


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 743
  To: BOB HART                                 Date: 06/11/93 12:31a
Subj: WANTED:CD ROM DRIVE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I am looking for an ext. cd-rom drive; used or new it
-> doesn't matter,and if possible around $200.

Hi Bob,
I have some used (great condition) Hitachi drives for sale. Call my BBS
if you are interested.  Prices as follows:
Bare 1503S External drive    $106.00
interface card               $71.00
Cable                        $13.00
Card and cable are new. So its under $200.oo complete, and you can daisy
chain 4 drives off one controller....
Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE BBS
517-892-5079
Fido 1:239/675


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 744
  To: CURT LARSON                              Date: 06/11/93 12:38a
Subj: Need a SCSI CD-ROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I am looking to buy an external, fully daisy-chainable, preferably ne
-> CD-ROM drive.  Speed is of no essence and I don't necessarily need to
-> controller.  Please respond here or call (816)229-9530.  Thanks.

Hi Curt,
I have some great shape used Hitachi Externals that are proprietery, but
daisy chainable up to 4 units on one card....
Bare Drive External 1503S         $106.00
Interface Card                    $71.00
Cable                             $13.00
So you can have 4 drives for under $500!
My BBS Number is below!
Matt Bedtelyon - SysOp
MEG*A*BITE BBS
517-892-5079 14.4
Fido 1:239/675


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 745
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/11/93  1:02a
Subj: CDROMS for sale!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@0C@**************************************
@0C@*@07@ @0F@  @07@  @0F@Used Hitachi CD-ROM@07@ @0F@Drives  @07@   @0C
@0C@*@07@             @0F@For Sale!!!!@07@           @0C@*
@0C@*@07@       @0F@External 1503S Caddyless @07@    @0C@*
@0C@**************************************
@0A@For those of you who missed out on the first drives
@0A@I had, more are now available... These drives are
@0A@perfect for BBS operations, and can be @0F@daisy chained
@0A@together up to 4 drives on @0F@one@07@ @0A@interface card.
@0A@Many of you know the reliablity of these units, so
@0A@if you are interested, @0F@call today!
@0C@Bare drives               $106.00@07@ @0C@used, but great shape!
@0C@Interface card             $71.00@07@ @0C@new
@0C@Cable                      $13.00@07@ @0C@new
@0D@30 day warranty by me! You pay the shipping!
@0D@Call my BBS at: @0F@(517)892-5079 14.4 @0D@if you
@0D@are interested, @0B@supplies are limited!
Matt Bedtelyon - SysOp
@0D@MEG@07@*@0E@A@07@*@09@BITE @07@BBS
P.O. Box 21
Essexville, MI 48732-0021
Fido 1:239/675




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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 746
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/12/93  6:02p
Subj: NEC drive for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NEC external CDROM CDR36 w/8bit controller...$200..........used

James F. Porter
(813) 345-7297
 þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Who said that Interstellar Empires don't exit?


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From: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                       Number: 747
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/11/93  1:05a
Subj: Re: PIER 2 NOW SHIPPING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike, what's the overlap of Pier 1 and 2- are they just updates? Also, the
same question with Owl 7 and 8. Thanks!

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From: CLIFF ESHOM                            Number: 748
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/11/93  2:27p
Subj: games to trade?                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    would like to trade the following floppys for CD(s),

             1.   Harpoon (modern naval war)
              2.   Echelon (3-D space flight sim.)
               3.   Where in time is Carmen Sandiego?
                4.   Sargon III Chess
                 5.   PT-109 (Torpedo boat sim.)
                  6.   The Print Shop;
                   7.   Megafortress (B-52 sim.)
                    8.   Sidekick (Borland TSR destop organizer unopened)
                     9.   PC-Link Online Program

    original boxes with doc's. Call (604) 752-8518  or leave message here.


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From: JOHN DECARLO                           Number: 749
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/12/93  8:15p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On <Jun 09 17:19>, Terry Woodward (1:369/14) wrote:

JD>>Yes, sale or trade.  Make an offer.

 TW >Which FAO? Got ARL? Pc-Pix II? Smutware? MPC II?

All I have is FAO I.  I am not all that interested in graphic X stuff, so I
find this of limited use.  I would like to trade it for a disk with more
plain nudes on it.  Any suggestions?

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From: NILL TOULME                            Number: 750
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/11/93 10:34a
Subj: RULES                                   Refer: NONE
Read: 06/14/93  6:53a                       Private: No 

Tim, what are the rules governing posting of price lists in this echo... 
frequency, message length, etc.?

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 751
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/12/93  2:26p
Subj: Wanted...7th guest                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone have 7th guest for sale (used)
I would prefer the whole package, box docs, video.
thanks...


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From: JON R. HENDRIX                         Number: 752
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/12/93  8:26a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM CATALOG                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send me one of your catalogues -
Jon Hendrix
8800 Eucalyptus Ave
Muncie, IN 47304

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From: BRYAN SPEED                            Number: 753
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93  1:43a
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does the Mitsumi $200 dollar drives allow more than one drive to be
installed. If so, and you have a config.sys/Autoexec.bat you can send
netmail or post here , i would really appreciate it!
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From: KAMAL HAFFAR                           Number: 754
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/12/93  3:50p
Subj: My cds order!!!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Mike, Have you had  any luck tracking down those three cds you sent me
on May 21st, I still haven't received them.

I am really anxious to get those cds, especially the pier2 since I have
promised my bbs users that it was going to be up and running at least a week
ago.  You can imagine the amount of messages I have received from my users
enquiring about those disks.

I would appreciate some follow up.

If you wish to reach me by voice you can call 519-250-9031, or send me a
netmail message at 1:246/14.

Thanks in advance.

Kamal

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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 755
  To: STEPHEN GUPTON                           Date: 06/12/93  6:27p
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Stephen!

In a message to Mark Abbacchi <06/10/93> Stephen Gupton wrote:

SG> In a msg on <Jun1018:46, Mark Abbacchi of 1:100/550 writes:


SG>  MA> Games 1993     $25.00  **NEW** 6000 files... Completely BBS ready 
SG>      Most distributers have removed this disk from their line because it'
SG> really messed up. I attempted to call voice and netmail and recieved no
SG> reply, I posted here as a last resort.

Thanks for the info.. however.. the disk gets more compliments from more
folks than many others..  We warn folks that it isn't the greatest disk
in the world.. however.. it does have MANY MANY new files on it.  As far
as complaints.. well Shareware 1993.. DEFINITELY.. but not Games 1993..
We are 100% honest with our customers.. let them know up front about
verions duping etc.. however... after taking a REALLY good look at the
disk.. well.. it isn't really all that bad for a game disk.. according
to our CUSTOMERS... not us.  Not arguing with you mind you.. just
letting you know.  We have sold well over 200 of them.. and have had I
think TWO complaints.. Customer satisfaction is our 100% goal.. as long
as you sell the disk and let the customer know up front what the
problems could be.. well.. most folks have no problem with that.
It's our 800 number they're on anyway.. as they say.. an ounce of
prevention is worth a pound of cure? <grin>

At least it's virus free (to my knowledge anyway).. runs on a Mitsumi
drive with no problems... Does have a LOT of new stuff on it...and is
priced fairly inexpensive... That's 1000% more than I can say for some
disks that sell for TWICE the price of this disk! <G>

We advise folks to use it as a supplemental disk...  so that they can
have a larger game file area if that's what they are looking for. One
man actually called back and said it's now is favorite resource disk for
good games... I stopped a while back trying to "guess" what folks will
like and what they won't like.  IF there are some problems... we tell them
about them... that's the fairest way... if they aren't interested in the
particular disk anymore.. then we attempt to satisfy their needs with
something else.

Thanks for your reply again Stephen... Appreciate the fact that you were
looking out for us! Teamwork in the echoes is rare... and is always
welcome! <grin>


Mark
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From: JERRY MASON                            Number: 756
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/12/93 12:06p
Subj: Cd rom mailing list                     Refer: NONE
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If you have a catalog please put me on your list.

Jerry Mason
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 757
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 06/13/93  1:33a
Subj: Various                                 Refer: NONE
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KR>Could you please give me info on the following titles?
KR>-Readers library
KR>-Reference library
KR>-Shakespear
KR>-Electronic Home Library
KR>-Languages of the World
KR>-Library of the Future #1
KR>-World Atlas MPC

Kirk,

In the interest of saving space here, give me a call, and I'll run down
as many as you want, or give me your address, and I can send you one of
our catalogs with descriptions!

Later,
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 758
  To: PAUL JANEL                               Date: 06/13/93  1:33a
Subj: Shareware cd comparisons                Refer: NONE
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PJ>In your next comparison, could you include some windows shareware cds,
like
PJ>cd-winbox... ect. ? thanks

Paul,

Sure - just as soon as I get my hands on some Winboxes!

Bye,
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 759
  To: PAUL JANEL                               Date: 06/13/93  1:33a
Subj: Cd powerbox disc                        Refer: NONE
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PJ>COuld you give me some stats on cd-power box? (i'm in the market for the
BEST
PJ>shareware cd)

Paul,

650+ megs, around 60/40 1992/1991 files.  Over 6000 files in all.  Full
FILES.BBS listings, with over 50 file areas.  At 23 smackers, not a bad
CD at all, but if you already have Night Owl 7, you probably don't need
this one.  Give me a call and we can discuss more!

Later,
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 760
  To: CARLOS RODRIGUEZ                         Date: 06/13/93  1:33a
Subj: SHAREWARE CD COMPARISO                  Refer: NONE
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CR>  >     PR1   PR2   NO7   NO8   SS1   SS2   MON   SC2   SV1   CDP   SWO
CR>  >   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
CR>  >PR1| .06%| .23%| 1.8%| 6.5%| 3.2%| 7.2%| 7.6%| 6.5%| .70%| 2.1%| 4.5%|
CR>  >   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+

CR>Am I reading this chart correctly?  I'm not trying to be a smart ***
CR>but looking at pr1 compared to pr1, shouldn't it be 100% duplicate
CR>files since it is the same CD?  Same for pr2, and no7?  The way I'm

Carlos,

Sorry - I wasn't very clear here.  The identical CD comparisons above
reflect the percentage of dupes WITHIN a given CD.  I've re-posted the
chart in this packet, with a line added to make it more understandable.

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 761
  To: TYLER A. WUNDER                          Date: 06/13/93  1:33a
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 1/2                       Refer: NONE
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TAW>     <sigh> Despite the fact that no one seems to want to give out any
TAW>information on the cds they advertise in this forum, I'm going to ask yet
ag
TAW>for some filling in on the contents of cds that look interesting.

TAW> MS>  Bible Library.................31.00

CA75 BIBLE LIBRARY - Nine Bibles and 20 reference books with concordances.
Also has five word studies, 3000 sermon outlines, two commentaries,
and eight dictionaries. DOS

TAW> MS>  Bibles & Religion.............16.50

CA37 BIBLES & RELIGION - All popular New & Old Testament versions.
Includes Talmud portions, Book of Mormon, lexicons, concordances,
study guides, organization membership and fund-raising programs, many
translations including Greek. Also covers Judaism and Islam. DOS

TAW> MS>  CIA World Fact Book...........24.00

CA80 CIA WORLD FACT BOOK - Our government's own World Almanac and
figures for 249 countries and territories worldwide. Includes geography,
government, economics, communications, military, environment, drugs,
claims, treaties, etc. Filled with interesting stats that we'll bet
you didn't know! DOS

TAW> MS>    Shakespeare...................17.50

CA235 SHAKESPEARE - Complete collection of Shakespeare's works, including
37 plays, and 159 poems and sonnets. Provided in original form (Queen's
English), and plain English. DOS MAC

Tyler - Hope that answers most of your questions.  Give me a call if you
want, and we can cuss and discuss. <g>

Bye,
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 762
  To: TIM SCHOOLER                             Date: 06/13/93  1:33a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE$                         Refer: NONE
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TS> MS>  Nix Pix Hot Pix 2.............34.50    Storm

TS>Mike, do you stock Nix Pix I ?

No.
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 763
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/13/93  1:33a
Subj: SHAREWARE CD COMPARISONS                Refer: NONE
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BJ> MS> Are my figures still suspect? <g>

BJ>Nope! You've cleared that up. I suspect others had a similar
BJ>interpretation, tho'. Boy, I wish that program was smart enough to work
BJ>on image CDs! I guess it might as long as the same image was always
BJ>tagged with the same title - too much to ask, I guess :( .  Well, if Lee
BJ>Noga's right, we won;t have to put up with re-hashed files much longer.
BJ>Can't wait for that day <GGG>.

Yeah, you're right.  With all the file renaming that goes on with adult
titles, a direct comparison might not be very accurate, but it would
still be fun to do!  If I can find another couple of free hours, I
might do it anyway. <g>

Later,
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 764
  To: CLINT SAVAGE                             Date: 06/13/93  1:33a
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
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CS>Looking for a copy of Microsoft's Bookshelf 1991 addition.  ALSO Info. on
the
CS>MIDI Music Shop.

Clint,

We have Bookshelf '92 in stock at $58.00.  We also carry MIDI Music Shop
at $32.00.  MIDI Music Shop essentially contains 3 commercial MIDI-
related programs to let you create, edit, and otherwise manipulate the
files.  They are: Music Mentor, Recording Session, and World of Music
Sampler.  Also has lots of sample sound files.  (I have a hard time keeping
this disc in stock!)

Call if I can be of further assistance,

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 765
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/13/93  1:33a
Subj: Is this "service" ???                   Refer: NONE
Read: 06/14/93  7:07a                       Private: No 

TH>-> No greetz to ya, Mike! Lotta words but poor action if you ask me!

TH>Don't use this echo to vent hostilities.  Pick up the damn phone & call
TH>Mike if you're having trouble with his service...

Tim,

He sent Netmail to Dave's board which I never received, so I guess that's
why he's angry.  No problem with our service, just our communication! <g>

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 766
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93  1:33a
Subj: CD COMPARISONS                          Refer: NONE
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------------------------------------------------------------------------
                SHAREWARE CD-ROM DUPLICATION COMPARISONS
------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.0

PR1 = PIER1                PR2 = PIER2                 NO7 = NIGHT OWL 7
SS1 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 1   SS2 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 2    NO8 = NIGHT OWL 8
SC2 = SUPER CD 2           SV1 = SOFTWARE VAULT        CDP = CD POWERBOX
SWO = SHAREWARE ONLINE     MON = MONSTER DISC

           % OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
          ---------------------------------------------------
>>   Note:  Diagonal reflects % of INTERNAL dupes within a given CD.  <<

     PR1   PR2   NO7   NO8   SS1   SS2   MON   SC2   SV1   CDP   SWO
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
PR1| .06%| .23%| 1.8%| 6.5%| 3.2%| 7.2%| 7.6%| 6.5%| .70%| 2.1%| 4.5%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
PR2| .23%| .00%| .09%| .43%| .34%| 2.5%| 1.7%| .85%| .40%| .18%| .19%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
NO7| 1.8%| .09%| .06%| .57%| 5.0%| 7.4%|34.0%| 9.9%| 1.2%|77.3%| 7.0%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
NO8| 6.5%| .43%| .57%| .24%| 1.4%| 7.0%| 4.9%|46.3%| 1.0%| .89%| 1.8%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SS1| 3.2%| .34%| 5.0%| 1.4%| .15%| .16%| 7.6%| 3.4%| 2.3%| 7.3%| 7.4%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SS2| 7.2%| 2.5%| 7.4%| 7.0%| .16%| .01%|14.8%|11.3%| 4.7%| 7.2%| 7.1%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
MON| 7.6%| 1.7%|34.0%| 4.9%| 7.6%|14.8%| .91%|15.4%| .54%|24.2%|19.1%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SC2| 6.5%| .85%| 9.9%|46.3%| 3.4%|11.3%|15.4%| 1.3%| .70%| 9.0%| 2.9%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SV1| .70%| .40%| 1.2%| 1.0%| 2.3%| 4.7%| .54%| .70%| 2.6%| 3.3%| 1.1%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
CDP| 2.1%| .18%|77.3%| .89%| 7.3%| 7.2%|24.2%| 9.0%| 3.3%| .23%| 7.0%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SWO| 4.5%| .19%| 7.0%| 1.8%| 7.4%| 7.1%|19.1%| 2.9%| 1.1%| 7.0%| .84%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+

        PRICES
        ------
        PIER 1..............29.00      PIER 2..............45.00
        NIGHT OWL 7.........25.00      NIGHT OWL 8.........33.50
        SHAREWARE STUDIO 1..21.00      SHAREWARE STUDIO 2..27.00
        MONSTER DISC 2-PAK..44.00      SUPER CD 2..........29.00
        SOFTWARE VAULT......26.00      CD POWERBOX.........23.00
        SHAREWARE ONLINE....29.00

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 767
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Subj: JUNE CD PRICES 1/2                      Refer: NONE
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 7th Guest (Wow!)..............55.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...44.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........37.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 American Business Phonebk 1...19.00    Mother of All Clipart (New!)..24.00
 American Business Phonebk 2...28.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Amiga AB20....................16.50    National Business Directory...39.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......27.50    National Parks................32.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....27.50    Night Owl 4.2.................22.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Night Owl 5.0.................23.00
 Audubon's Birds...............27.00    Night Owl 6.1.................24.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............27.00    Night Owl 7.0.................25.00
 Barney Bear School or Space...22.00    Night Owl 8.0.................33.50
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 7/8 2-Pak...........55.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 5/6/7/8 4-Pak.......99.00
 Bible Library.................31.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Bibles & Religion.............16.50    North American Fax Book.......49.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Ocean Digital Imagery.........45.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Original Shareware 1992.......18.00
 Business Master...............20.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...25.00
 C User's Group Library........31.50    Our Solar System..............16.50
 California Collection.........17.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....33.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    PC-SIG #10....................28.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-SIG #12....................30.00
 CD-PowerBox...................23.00    PC Gameroom...................28.50
 CD-ROM Grab Bag (4 CD's)......29.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CD Grab Bag (1 CD)............19.00    Phoenix 3.0...................19.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Pier 1........................29.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........24.00    Pier 2 (In stock!)............45.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....54.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (New!)......28.00
 Clipart Galore................32.50    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........128.00
 Clipart Goliath...............16.50    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........29.00    Programmer's MegaPack (New!)..34.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............16.50    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Complete Bookshop.............16.50    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Composer Quest................38.50    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Compton's Interactive Ency...109.00    Publisher's Paradise (New!)...35.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....79.00    Reader's Library..............32.50
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....79.00    Reference Library.............27.50
 Conan the Cimmerian...........35.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....38.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....39.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...43.00
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........29.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's & Sound)........28.50
 Crossword Cracker.............24.50    Secret of Monkey Island.......25.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! I...........20.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...28.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! II..........25.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......16.50    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Shareware Online (All 1992)...29.00
 Desktop Bookshop (New!).......28.50    Shareware Overload............16.50
 Dictionaries & Languages......16.50    Shareware Studio I............21.00
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Shareware Studio II (New!)....27.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............34.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Education Master..............20.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...25.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 768
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Subj: JUNE CD PRICES 2/2                      Refer: NONE
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 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Empire Clipart................29.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......28.00    So Much Shareware I...........22.50
 Encyclopedia of Sound (New!)..22.00    So Much Shareware II..........29.50
 Family Doctor.................29.50    Software Vault I..............25.00
 Font Master I.................19.00    Software Vault II (New!)......29.00
 Font Master II................28.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..34.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    Sound Sensations..............16.50
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Front Page News...............26.00    SoundWAV (New!)...............29.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Game Pack II..................27.00    Space Quest IV................25.00
 Games 1993 (New!).............28.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Sporting News.................26.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Gigabyte Gold.................25.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Global Explorer (New!)........97.00    Street Atlas USA..............88.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Super CD......................23.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Super CD II (New!)............29.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Super Games For Windows.......18.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.50
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...27.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.50
 Hacker Chronicles.............27.00    Technotools...................16.50
 Ham Radio 3.0.................16.50    Tempra Access Photo Software..32.50
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 House of Games................29.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Illustrated Holy Bible........49.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Too Many Typefonts............16.50
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Toolworks Ill. Ency. 2.0......39.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Toolworks MM Ency. 5.0........49.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Toolworks MPC Ency. 1.0.......49.00
 Jets & Props..................31.50    Total Baseball................35.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. & World Atlas............29.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 King's Quest V................25.00    VGA Spectrum I................17.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    VGA Spectrum II...............25.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    Visions of Saturn (New!)......25.00
 Library of the Future #1......54.50    Vital Signs...................39.00
 Lion's Share..................28.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Loom..........................25.00    Window Master.................20.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........39.00    Windoware.....................16.50
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Windows 1993..................28.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Windows Shareware Gold........37.00
 Magnum One Shareware..........29.00    Wing Commander II Deluxe......58.00
 Manhole.......................37.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Marketing Master 1992.........19.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......25.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    WizPak........................17.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............35.00    World Atlas MPC...............29.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......58.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Microsoft Works MPC...........58.00    World Traveler (New!).........18.00
 MIDI Music Shop...............32.00    World View....................24.00
 Mixed Up Mother Goose.........24.50    World Vision 3-Pak (New!).....47.00
 Monarch Notes.................64.00    Wrath of the Demon............38.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Find a better advertised price?  Call us LAST, and we'll save you some $$$
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 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA þ MC þ AMEX þ DISCOVER þ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs þ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

---
 þ SLMR 2.1a þ ...Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball...

--- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 769
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93  1:33a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE$$$$$                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 June 1993                ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST         Last update: 6/10
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------

 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    Porkware......................37.00
 Animation Fantasies I.........30.00    Porkware II (New!)............37.00
 Animation Fantasies II........30.00    Private Collection I..........35.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private Collection II.........35.00
 Busty Babes...................33.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics I............33.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Erotic Encounters.............36.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Giffy Gold ("R"-rated)........39.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................34.50    SeXXcapades The Movie.........59.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................34.50    Smutware......................32.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................34.50    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............34.50    Storm I.......................25.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......28.00    Storm II......................30.00
 Moving Fantasies..............30.00    Storm III.....................31.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....65.00    Storm 3-Pak...................75.00
 Nightwatch Interactive (Wow!).65.00    Swimwear & More (New!)........29.00
 PC-PIX 1......................32.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 PC-PIX 2......................32.00    Tropical Girls (Closeout).....25.00
 PC-PIX 3......................32.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 PC-PIX 3-Pak..................85.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 Physical Therapy..............22.50    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Find a better advertised price?  Call us LAST, and we'll save you some $$$
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA þ MC þ AMEX þ DISCOVER þ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs þ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

---
 þ SLMR 2.1a þ I still miss my ex-wife, but my aim is getting better.

--- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 770
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/12/93  6:51p
Subj: Re: .TXT files                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> uncensored, and many of the stories involve incest/beastiality
> etc--Please take the time to screen them if you plan to distribute
> them-No publisher wants to read hundreds of stories to screen out those
> that are Federally Obscene, much to time consuming.
If I remember correctly, you had a partner (Blaine I think). What happened to
him? Is it possible for you to provide his mailing address for me? or a
telephone number? Thanks 

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 771
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/12/93  6:53p
Subj: Re: GEEZ                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> that number for other things--So, IMHO, judging successful companies with
> 800 numbers is a little bias :)
Also they provide 800 numbers to only to reputable companies with good
payment history. 

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From: MAHMUT KURSUN                          Number: 772
  To: STEVE LIN                                Date: 06/11/93 11:27a
Subj: LINUX CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >> LINUX, a UNIX operating system workalike now available
 >> on CD-ROM.  Includes GNU C/C++ compiler, X-Windows,
 >> TCP/IP, sound card support and much more.  Only $49.95.

 > When you say "much more", are you talking about just the basic LINUX
 > setup, or lots of stuff enough to fill the CD to 600+ Mb?

This is the Linux Beta CDROM. The Alpha CDROM has 150 MB, the beta
now have 350 MB.

There is a Production release planned. I guess this one will hit the
600 MB, but it could take another half year for the production Release,
because it was planned for february 92 and it is not out already.

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From: KEITH HERALD                           Number: 773
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 06/12/93  9:03p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-sale or trade...           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SS> I have STORM II adult CD-ROM for sale or trade, I would prefer 
 SS> to trade...        Leave message here if interested...
 SS> ---

        I have the Stareware CD that I will trade you for your STORM II.



Keith Herald

... A hard man is good to find.
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From: JOHN CARROLL                           Number: 774
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/11/93  7:29p
Subj: catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jim, please send me your cd-rom catalog

John Carroll PO Box 650481 Vero Beach, Fl. 32965-0481

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From: WARREN DANIO                           Number: 775
  To: PAUL JANEL                               Date: 06/12/93  1:56a
Subj: I agree!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* Paul Janel said to Kirk Rawnsley, the following:
PJ > I agree, if the "reply to catalog" messages take up to much
PJ > HD space then buy a bigger HD. This echo is meant for
PJ > cd-stuff, and catalogs has alot to do with it.
        Are you offering to contribute to a sysops Hard Drive and
        telephone bill? I doubt it. or are you just to cheap to pay
        for a stamp or a phone call     Warren

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 776
  To: NILL TOULME                              Date: 06/14/93  7:04a
Subj: RULES                                   Refer: 4192
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Tim, what are the rules governing posting of price lists in this echo
-> frequency, message length, etc.?

Nothing is etched in stone... Just use your common sense and don't over
do it.  Over doing it would be if you posted a 50 line ad ever other
day, singing the same ol' tune & boring the rest of us to tears.

Advertising in this echo is like advertising in a magazine -
presentation is more important than volume.  My own personal opinion is
that it's better to have a 90% chance of driving home *one* point than
it is to have a 5% chance of driving home many... Keep in mind that the
readers of this echo (just like readers of a magazine) make 2 second
decisions as to whether or not to read a given ad... Because of that, I
personally prefer ads that are short & sweet & illustrate a specific
point - ads that will grab the user's attention.

tim
moderator
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From: JOHN DECARLO                           Number: 777
  To: ANDY YEE                                 Date: 06/13/93 12:49p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On <Jun 12 03:11>, Andy Yee (1:134/2006) wrote:

 AY >how much are you asking for it?>

I guess around $25, which seems to be a standard price.

I would rather trade it for a different one, though.

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From: JIM SHARRER                            Number: 778
  To: BRIAN WHEATLEY                           Date: 06/12/93  4:53a
Subj: Cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Just wondering everyone, is 700ms to slow to use a CD-ROM for a BBS?
-> Like a shareware cd, for downloading etc... Thanks...

Brian,

I'm using a Sony rated at 600ms, and with PCBoards indexing feature, its
fine.  Without the indexing and minimal buffers, a search could take up
to 45 seconds; with a 1 meg buffer and no indexing, up to 11 seconds,
and with the indexing and a small buffer, searches take less than 4
seconds. Also note that this was on a multiline BBS across a network.
If its a single line, I think it'll be fine.

Hope this helped some...

...Jim...


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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 779
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/12/93 11:30p
Subj: Karoake CD-Rom                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

.

Moderator:  Sorry this should be going NetMail; I have temporarily
lost access, but it will be fixed within a day or two.....


Lee -

06 Jun 93, Lee Noga writes to Doug Carpenter:

   > I fell in love with the PC Karoake software for windows, the one
   > with the mike and 25 songs. Well, at CES I became a dealer and
   > we are trying to get them to put all available songs on CD-ROM-+-

Now you're talking MY business!

We've been (we = "Blank Productions", Bob Blank - my partner, and myself)
producing Karoake tracks for almost eight years now, and have built up a
sizable library (over a thousand titles).  We own full rights to the
recordings.

I'd like to speak with you about the possibility of licensing these tracks
to FLD for production of such a disc.

I'll try to reach you via voice (I found your number after I NetMailed you
last week).  If I don't reach you before you receive this, would you give
me a call, please?  Incidentally, I'll be away on business for the entire
month of July.  =HUGS=  (Hey - If YOU can, I can! <g> )

                                                  - Arnie :+}

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 780
  To: TONY D. BERRY                            Date: 06/13/93  2:45a
Subj: Private Pictures CDROM                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CB>> I have one copy of the cdrom disc Private Pictures for sale.

 TDB> How 'bout $15 plus $2.90?

I'm sorry, but I have an offer of $20 so far.

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From: BEN BYRD                               Number: 781
  To: PAUL HAMMERSCHMIDT                       Date: 06/12/93  9:14p
Subj: Problem with a CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PH>Hi all... I have a Sony CDRom, and all of a sudden, the darn thing keeps
PH>spitting out the disks. It won't let the caddy and the disk stay in the
driv
PH>When, on the rare occasion it does, when I try and access the drive, it
says
PH>that the drive won't respond. Any suggestions? It's only happening with
the
PH>Adult ROM that I use on my bbs, not with other roms. Could it be that the
di
PH>is defective/scratched and the laser won't read it????

PH>Please help!

It should make a difference if it's strached.  Butt who knows with the
way things are made.  Take your BBs off line and see if any other disks
work in it.  If you don't have another disk get one from a BBs SysOp you
know and like you should let you bore it for a day are two.  If the
drive doesn't work I'll buy it from you (To take a part and see how they
work).  Tell if it works.  Oh and if the Cd is bad and you have had it
for a while then I will pay for it to be shipped at here so that I can
make a clock out of it.  Bye Ben Byrd (Byrd as in Bird).

 * SLMR 2.1a * Buddhism means never having to say you're sorry.


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From: PAUL HAMMERSCHMIDT                     Number: 782
  To: BEN BYRD                                 Date: 06/13/93  4:01a
Subj: Re: Problem with a CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I overheard Ben Byrd saying to Paul Hammerschmidt something about
Problem with a CD

Hi Ben Byrd!

 BB> It should make a difference if it's strached.  Butt who knows with the
 BB> way things are made.  Take your BBs off line and see if any other
 BB> disks work in it.
I have several other disks, and they all work. So I guess it might be the
disk... 


Paul 
... Life's a bleach, then you dye...
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From: LJUBOMIR BRADIC                        Number: 783
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/11/93 11:13p
Subj: Simms for sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have brand new samsung 4 x 256K simms for sale (80ns). Ask $35. Drop a line
if interested.

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From: MARK SMITKA                            Number: 784
  To: ADRIAN PENDELL                           Date: 06/13/93 12:22p
Subj: 7th guest...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Quoting Adrian Pendell's message to All, in pertinent part:

AP}        I have really been wanting to buy this game, and, infact, AP}    
   actually had taken it up to the register to buy it when I AP}       
noticed the box said it requires an SVGA monitor w/ 1 meg RAM AP}        -is
this true? If so, it seems a real dissapointment......

The Seventh Guest is like to other game I've seen. It really "pushes the
envelope" with respect to video compression, graphics, and sound technology.
If you want to be able to run the most demanding software, you'll have to
provide the hardware. Believe me, Trilobyte and whatever future software they
create, are the best reasons I've seen so far to justify my harware
investment.

===
 * WinQwk 2.0 a#720 * If that's my brain on drugs, can I get bacon with it?

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From: ADAM GILBERT                           Number: 785
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 06/13/93  3:24p
Subj: CdRom Drives                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Are you considering trades on either drive? I will give you a 42mb IDE hard
drive and a 20mb MFM hard drive for the second drive if you are intersted.
Call me at (515)221-9840.
Thanks

--- Maximus 2.01wb
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From: JIM STALLINGS                          Number: 786
  To: HOWARD ONEIL                             Date: 06/13/93  2:16p
Subj: Trade Wanted                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

testing
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 * Origin: From the desk of Jim Stallings, Indian Head, 
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From: PAUL ELLIOTT                           Number: 787
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93  3:38p
Subj: BBS Ready Sharware CD-ROM, Over 6000 Programs, Only $39.95  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  The 640 Meg Shareware Studio Volume II
"The Best Shareware CD-ROM on the market!!"

Just Released!!!   ******** Only 39.95 ********

Total Size = 637 Megabytes Compressed
Total Files = 6659

FILES.BBS description files. The disc is totally BBS ready,
contains 1992 & 1993 Shareware!

ACCESS.EXE, a slick user interface. ACCESS allows the end user to access and
search the disc from a scrollable display of the filenames and their
discriptions.
The features of this incredible program make it the industry's #1 shareware
CD interface.

All files are free of archive errors, archive comments, BBS ads, AV codes,
and
all known computer viruses. Also, all archive dates match the last date
within
the archive.

Every effort has been made to avoid having multiple versions of the same
software.
There are no duplicates between Volume I and Volume II.

The directory names are representative of the  directory's content. All
directories are off the root directory. 98% of the files are in .ZIP format.


                                        Qty.           Sub. Total
Shareware Studio Volume II  $39.95  x  ______     =    _______
Shareware Studio Volume I   $25.00  x  ______     =    _______
Volume I & Volume II        $59.00  x  ______     =    _______

Postage & Handling          $1.50   x  ______     =    _______


					    Total =    _______


Send Check, Money Order and this form to:

                                IBEX
				P.O. Box 142
                                Lookout Mountain, TN 37350

Dealer Inquiries or More Info Call 1-615-870-9740 Voice.
 
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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 788
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93  9:49a
Subj: 4sale or trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

****************************Please Pay
Attention******************************
 I have the following items for sale or trade.

89' White Cadillac-vinyl top,blue leather int,2nd owner--no trade--$12,500

Terminator 2029---awesome sci-fi game   DacEasy Accounting Software--great

Sony CD-ROM---CDU535 150k/sec  comes with all needed cables

LOOM---CD-ROM game--real voices and cool music

3 new printer cables    PC-Logic 9600 baud modem w\ Prodigy and 3yr warranty
                            ^^^^^BRAND NEW MODEM...IN WRAP^^^^^^^

Make an offer on all or part of items.I might except trade.If interested
about Caddy,call (615)896-7238 and ask for Glenn.I will be happy to neg.
******************************************************************************
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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 789
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/14/93  9:55a
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Is the Music Shop program on CD? If not I'm interested.
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From: MONTY TAN                              Number: 790
  To: NED ALLISON                              Date: 06/13/93  1:22a
Subj: MSCDEX PROBLEM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Did you place the SETVER.EXE in the config.sys? MSCDEX requires this.

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From: JEREMY GUTSCHE                         Number: 791
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93  2:33p
Subj: 3D Cad programs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can anyone recomend a very high quality cad program which would create
3D (and possibly 2D) rotatable images in 256 colour???
                Thank You
                Jeremy Gutsche
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From: BOB HAY                                Number: 792
  To: WARREN DANIO                             Date: 06/13/93  8:34p
Subj: Catalog Please                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Warren!

Saturday June 12 1993 01:56, Warren Danio wrote to Paul Janel:

 WD>         Are you offering to contribute to a sysops Hard Drive and
 WD>         telephone bill? I doubt it. or are you just to cheap to pay
 WD>         for a stamp or a phone call     Warren

I just wish they would all use a common Subject in the message header so us
leaf nodes could delete the whole thread once a day.

Bob

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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 793
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 06/12/93 11:19a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Patrick:

In a msg of <Wednesday June 09 1993>, Patrick Rosenheim writes to Tyler A.
Wunder:

 PR> These descriptions were taken from a catalog, and are complete (except
for
 PR> my parenthetical remark)....

     Thanks for the descriptions.  Hmmm...will have to think about them.




Tyler A. Wunder

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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 794
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/12/93  8:58a
Subj: CD WinBox                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Damar Enterprises announces the introduction of a NEW 
Windows-based Shareware CD-ROM: 
 
               *#############*    Available from better 
               #  CD WinBox  #    dealers in this echo! 
               *#############* 
 
This is a GREAT addition to folks that already own our first 
release, the CD PowerBox.  If you're into Windows - the 
WinBox is for you.  Here are the disk's stats: 
 
*    Approximately 6,000 files. 
*    Over 30% are TRULY dated 1993! 
*    Over 620 MegaBytes of files, icons, articles, and 
     bitmaps. 
*    40 Files areas each with a multi-line file description 
     in the FILES.BBS format. 
*    SFFILES.BBS and MASTER.DIR supported as well! 
*    Use the true Windows-based Graphical User Interface for 
     quick file location and installation! 
*    Huge amounts of applications (this disk is not just a 
     collection of icons and graphics!) 
 
#    AREA NAME:                    #    AREA NAME: 
------------------------------     ---------------------------- 
1    New & Journals                21   Networking 
2    Windows NT                    22   Windows for Workgroups 
3    Financial & Investment        23   Communications A-M 
4    Printer Utils/Drivers         24   Communications N-Z 
5    Games A-M                     25   Icons Galore A-G 
6    Games N-Z                     26   Icons Galore H-P 
7    Personal Info. Managers       27   Icons Galore Q-Z 
8    Multimedia - Video            28   Icon Apps/Utils 
9    Multimedia - Sound A-M        29   Screen Savers 
10   Multimedia - Sound N-Z        30   Fonts - ATM Type A-M 
11   Developers Files              31   Fonts - ATM Type N-Z 
12   Visual Basic A-M              32   Fonts - TrueType A-M 
13   Visual Basic N-Z              33   Fonts - TrueType N-Z 
14   Word for Windows              34   Fonts - Apps/Utils 
15   Other Word Processors         35   Educational 
16   Graphics - Apps/Utils         36   Spreadsheet Related 
17   Graphics - BMP/RLE A-M        37   Database 
18   Graphics - BMP/RLE N-Z        38   Apps A-J 
19   Graphics - PCX A-M            39   Apps K-S 
20   Graphics - PCX N-Z            40   Apps T-Z 
 
       Call your favorite dealer for competitive prices! 
 
 
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From: VACLAV VYVODA                          Number: 795
  To: ADRIAN PENDELL                           Date: 06/13/93  9:50a
Subj: 7th Guest...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On Jun 10 17:22, Adrian Pendell of 1:232/1 wrote:

 > buy it when I        noticed the box said it requires an SVGA 
 > monitor w/ 1 meg RAM        -is this true? If so, it seems a 
 > real dissapointment for those        of us who don't have 
 > SVGA cards ( I, personally, can't see a        damn bit of 
 > difference between the two..), and this would, along        

Its simple.
  VGA w/ 256k goes up to 320x200x256 or 640x480x16
  SVGA w/ 512k goes up to 640x480x256 or 800x600x16
  SVGA w/ 1024k goes up to 1024x768x256 or 1280x1024x16

Any questions?  <g>

Vas

PS..  I'm sorry that this was off the topic, but here's something right on
topic..

Does anybody have a Toshiba XM-3201B for sale cheap?
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 796
  To: LEE HICKERSLY                            Date: 06/12/93  6:53p
Subj: .TXT files                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> Is there a cd that specializes in Adult .TXT files? Does anyone have a
>> large amount of them built up from other cd's? I would like to get like
>> one QIC-40 tape of .TXT files... I will sned the tape, or pay for yours
>> (prefer that)..

    I have about 40+ MEG of freeware adult text files, but the best I can
do is put them on a 3m DC2120 in QIC-80 format.  The cost of reproducing
the tape, the tape, and shipping is $30.00.  The tapes cost me about $25
so I really can't ship one out for less than that.
    If you are interested, I would be more than happy to back them up
and send them out, since I have the files all collected in one place
right now, anyway.

    P.S. If you like, I also have a collection of adult games that I will
slap on the tape for $5.00 more (just to pay for the time it will take me
to collect 'em and back 'em up).  Your option.


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 797
  To: BRIAN WHEATLEY                           Date: 06/12/93  7:03p
Subj: Re: .TXT files                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Brian Wheatley wrote to Lee Hickersly:

>> You have a backup, full of Adult .TXT files? How many megs did you say
>> 40? >> How much would you sell it for? Thanks...

    He was asking if anyone had one.  I do, and as I wrote to him, I have
about 40+ MEG of txt files that I will put on a 3m DC2120 tape in QIC-80
format and ship anywhere in the US for $30.00 (the tapes cost me 25.00)
    I also offered the option for $35.00 of adding all of the games that
I have collected up.  The extra $5 being to cover my time to collect all
of the files together and back them up.


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From: JIM REED                               Number: 798
  To: CLINT SAVAGE                             Date: 06/12/93  9:48p
Subj: MSCDEX PROBLEM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NA>CS->This is a bit out of the Sales area but....Call it customer service..

NA>CS->I have an external Sony CD-ROM that was working fine with DOS6 on a
386D
NA>  ->Then I upgraded to a AMI (motherboard) 486DX2-66 Just normal DOS v6
usin
NA>  ->MSCDEX v2.20 (in dos v6 package) and get "Incorrect DOS version).
Tried
NA>  ->with 3.1 and 4.1 and 5.0 (not all at the same time) with no luck. Any
NA>  ->Suggestions. Thanks

NA>Call MicroSoft for an upgrade to at least v 2.21 on the MSCDEX. -=- Ned

Hi Clint;
        Try this instead.  Go to the c prompt and enter "help setver"
        then follow the instructions.  Easy.
                                /JIM/

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From: STERLING PRICE                         Number: 799
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 06/13/93 10:25p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-sale or trade...           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Shane Snyder to ALL <=-

 SS> I have STORM II adult CD-ROM for sale or trade, I would prefer to
 SS> trade...        Leave message here if interested...


I have Physical Therapy to trade.  If you are interested, reply via this echo
or call 501-443-4626 if you need voice verification.



... Open mouth, insert foot, echo internationally.
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From: RANDY SMITH                            Number: 800
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/12/93  8:21p
Subj: Cd-rom catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RS>Randy Smith
RS>8509 Mid County Industrial Dr
RS>St. Louis, MO 63114-6011

RS>Thanks

Randy C Smith
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From: LYNN CLARK                             Number: 801
  To: VETS                                     Date: 06/12/93 11:58p
Subj: Va benefit prog                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

for rehab and skills training call your local VA-VR office in St Pete up to
$25,000 year available....also local money for remodeling for
accessibility....HEAD INJURY REHAB AVAILABLE IN NORTH COUNTY OF PINELLAS ALSO
IN THE GENERAL TAMPA BAY AREA....


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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 802
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/13/93  4:11p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE$                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>JP>Hey Mike, at one time a few weeks ago I offered you a brand new 420 meg
MS>JP>Fujitsu HD for a bunch of your ADULT CDROM's.....you never did say

MS>Sorry, but not all of my messages to my local board have been going out.
MS>Looks like a good deal, but I've already got 750 megs installed, and I'm
MS>only using about 300 of that!  No can use at this point.

Thanks!, if you ever need the space call me I'll swap in a heart beat.

James
813-345-7297
 þ OLX 2.1 TD þ On a clear disk you can seek forever


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From: BOB SPILLERS                           Number: 803
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 06/13/93  7:02p
Subj: Need To Know                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RD>drive with no more than 500ms seek time, preferably less than 400.
Ideally you should get a muulti media "kit" with a Soundblaster pro.
That way you have no compatability problems and the Soundblaster is a
lot easier to set up than a RD>Pro Audio Spectrum 16 or Sound Galaxy Pro
16. They make "kits"  that come wi RD>a Soundblaster Pro and a Sony
Cd-Rom drive.


RD>--- msged 1.99S ZTC
RD> * Origin: Cowboy Country Point Netters  (1:303/5.104)


Sure appreciate the detailed information. You answered questions that I
didn't even know to ask. your info gives me a much better perception of
CD ROM than I had.

                          ITKU
                                 Rws

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From: THE SHADOWSPAWN                        Number: 804
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93  7:52p
Subj: CD-ROM Changer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        I, too, am seeking information on CD-ROM changers.  I would like
to purchase one for use with my BBS, but have been unable to find a
dealer here in Tampa who sells them.  If anyone can provide any
information on where I might find a drive, prices, etc, I would greatly
appreciate it.
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 805
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 06/09/93  8:23a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JS>JL> I think the next biggest seller will be Digital Dreams.  It is all 
  >JL> original scans that are 800x600 or better with no BBS ads.  It has a 
  >JL> very nice user interface also. 
 
JS>You sure are "plugging" this cd alot. Wouldn't be associated with it in
anyw 
  >now would you...? :) Let me know whats so special about this one.... 
 
No, I am not associated with it at all.  I have talked with a guy who 
worked on it.  He made sure it was very easy for sysops to set up.  I 
have previewed the disc on his board, but I am still waiting for it to 
hit the streets.  It should be out any day now. 
 
It has catalog gifs that allows the end user to view AND select one of 
36 miniature size gifs.  When you select one, it pulls up the full size 
gif.  I think that is a great user interface.  I also like the idea of 
not seeing repeats of other discs on every disc I buy.  The lack of 
advertisements is also a plus.  Just my opinion. :) 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 806
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/13/93  4:42p
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den In               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <06-12-93 08:16> Darin Celino wrote:

DC>> Regarding Shareware CD-Roms and the problems to be faced with
DC>> publishing such a disk in the future:  What is it that shareware
DC>> authors are sueing over.  It would seem to me that they have more to
DC>> gain than to lose if their product is distributed.

They dislike the idea that we sell our ROMS for profits (or better said, we
distribute their shareware for a profit from which they get nothing).

There is some 46 authors that will not release their software for publication
on CD-ROM--

I would much rather a signed release--Too many lawsuits flying around these
days--

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: TODD MCNOLDY                           Number: 807
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93 12:00a
Subj: Looking for CD's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm running a BBS with two CD-ROM drives, and am looking for two current,
up-to-date CD's with a substantial number of different files between them
(meaning only a 10 to 20% similarity).  I would very much like to get the
latest Night Owls, as I have an older version and have been very pleased with
it.  What is a good general shareware CD to go along with Night Owls?  Thanks
for any help in this matter.

-- Todd

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From: MATTHEW SMITH                          Number: 808
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93  6:05p
Subj: cdrom                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anybody have a CD-ROM of just .mod, .669, and s3m files?  Maybe some pg
.flis and gifs too..... anybody know what the Mega A/V is composed of?  (50%
sound, maybe?)

What is all this stuff I've been hearing about Seventh Guest?  How good is
it?  Is it all digital?  what are the machine requirements?

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 809
  To: RED KENNEDY                              Date: 06/14/93 12:08a
Subj: cd WinBox                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RK>Was just wondering if you have started shipping cd winbox yet...Hope you
have
RK>received my moneyorder by now.......

Red,

Yes, I got your order OK.  Thanks very much.  We should have the Winboxes
in this week.  Yours will be among the first to ship out.

Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 810
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93 12:08a
Subj: OTHERWARE I IN STOCK: $25               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 ****************************** OTHERWARE 1 ********************************
                 New Shareware CD for Macintosh and Amiga!

 PRICE REDUCTION!!!               $25.00                  PRICE REDUCTION!!!

 We are  pleased to announce  special  pricing  for OtherWare 1. This CD-ROM
 contains more than 600 megabytes of  current Macintosh  and Amiga shareware
 and public domain software.

 OtherWare 1 is primarily intended for DOS BBS operators who wish to provide
 access to Macintosh and Amiga software to their users,  but is also a great
 source of  late shareware  for end-users.  MegaSearch for DOS  and MegaDOOR
 (BBS)  have been provided for IBM users.  All filenames have been converted
 to DOS format  (ISO 9660)  with 8 letter filenames and 3 letter extensions,
 and program listings are available as a FILES.BBS text file for BBS sysops.

                                  $25.00

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Find a better advertised price?  Call us LAST, and we'll save you some $$$
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA þ MC þ AMEX þ DISCOVER þ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs þ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 811
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93 12:08a
Subj: SEEDY 6-PAKS IN STOCK!!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                     SEEDY ROM 6-PAK: $149 + $4 S/H.
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These famous adult CD sets are now available again. For a time they were hard
    to find, but Starvector has several sets in stock ready for immediate
 delivery at only $149 + $4 shipping. That's only $24.83 per CD, and each is
    packed with top-quality GIF pix with GIF's and FLI/GL animation on #6.

      >>> NO DUPLICATION BETWEEN CD'S!   OVER 29,000 GIF's IN ALL! <<<

                           >>> BBS-READY <<<

  Find a better advertised price?  Call us and we'll BEAT it!  No hassles.

     Note: Seedy #7 (Seventh Heaven) available separately for only $32,
     or $22 if purchased with 6-Pak.

                          (Must state age 21+)

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA þ MC þ AMEX þ DISCOVER þ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs þ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MAX HILL                               Number: 812
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93  9:04p
Subj: NEW CD-ROM BIG SKY                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       BIG SKY CD-ROM     <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
          The downloader's ROM      OVER 7000 + files
.................................................................
            ORDER LINE  Voice 1-406-586-8344       > 8:00 A.M.
              ORDER LINE  FAX   1-406-586-3774     > 7:00 P.M.
               * We Pay shipping 2nd day UPS       > MST
                  * MasterCard, VISA, COD company check

PCBoard users will be pleasantly surprised to find that we have
included special tools that will allow them to install BigSky
ROM in just a few minutes -- not hours.
The PCBoard IDX file was created before the Files.BBS and
Descript.ion files were laid down on the ROM.
This software was designed and developed by Martin Productions.
Over 7,000 files using PKWARE, Inc.'s PKZIP (R) 2.04g DeflatX
MAXIMUM compression are on this ROM, including .GIF, .WAV, .ICO,
and .BMP's.  Where there were hundreds of small icon files, we
combined them into downloadable 20K files, so there is no inflated
file count on this ROM (just so you'll buy the product).
All files are True Date Stamped, based on largest file in the
archive; there's no false advertising here.  If you're a SysOp,
we know you care about your users and don't want them thinking
that a file just came out when, in fact, it is a year old.  We
do have older files on our ROM, but if -- and only if -- we
feel it is something useful or interesting.
NO MISSING FILES OR WASTED TIME!
All archive files were scanned with McAfee Associates 5/5/93
SCAN 9.15 V104, which looks for 2,049 different viruses and their
variants.
All archives have a FILE_ID.DIZ to identify them.  If one wasn't
present, we added it.
Almost no data files are on this ROM.  We expect you to find
other sources for collections of data-type ROM's, and you can look
forward to BigSky #2's being almost all unique digitized images
and files.
We've listened to you on FidoNet; we monitor the Echos:  CD-ROM,
CD-ROM sales, VIRUS info, and DIRTY_DOZEN.  We've taken the time
to find and remove any HACK Report Files, illegal commercial
programs, programs that won't run right out of the ZIP file, and
anything else we've heard about.  Special thanks to the creators
of and contributors to the Hack Report.
Also, since there are inevitably problems with file descriptions,
every BigSky ROM purchaser who sends in the registration card
will be given access to PC-Montana's Special File Description
Update Area -- FREE -- to download all new updates as they become
available.
Files listed in DIR files but missing from Disk -- NONE!
Duplicate files found in Disk subdirectories -- NONE!
Duplicate file names across the whole ROM -- NONE!
Files found on Disk but missing from DIR files -- NONE!
Duplicate files found in DIR files -- NONE!
Files.BBS and Directory Tree have been set up for MOST BBS's.
Each subdirectory will have a FILES.BBS detailed description
list for operators of WildCat BBS's to load the file descriptions
quickly from CD-ROM to their hard disk database.
Cost $48.00  We think you'll be happy with this ROM purchase.  We
have checked the stats to see what users want.  This is TRULY the
Downloader's ROM.


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From: WARREN DANIO                           Number: 813
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/12/93 10:43p
Subj: GEEZ                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ > You gave your opinion, now I given mine. End of thread from
BJ > this end.
                End of thread.      Warren

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From: ROGER COLLINS                          Number: 814
  To: ADRIAN PENDELL                           Date: 06/13/93 10:46p
Subj: 7th Guest...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->         I have really been wanting to buy this game, and, infact,
->         actually had taken it up to the register to buy it when I
->         noticed the box said it requires an SVGA monitor w/ 1 meg RAM
->         -is this true? If so, it seems a real dissapointment for thos
->         of us who don't have SVGA cards ( I, personally, can't see a
->         damn bit of difference between the two..), and this would, al
->         w/ LInks 386, be only the second game i've ever seen that had
->         such a requirement...Thanks ahead of time...

Yep, I wouldn't buy it unless you had a non-accelerated 1MB video card.
I have a 1MB Diamond Stealth VRAM (S3 for windows performance) and the
game ran very poorly on my machine (a 486/50)


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 815
  To: ADAM GILBERT                             Date: 06/14/93  9:27a
Subj: Re: CdRom Drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AG> Are you considering trades on either drive? I will give you a 42mb
AG> IDE hard drive and a 20mb MFM hard drive for the second drive if you

Sorry, but I'm only using SCSI devices.  Thanks anyway.  I'll still have a
few drives over the next few weeks if you change your mind.


*FSED91j*
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From: BEN NATION                             Number: 816
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93  1:21p
Subj: nix pix hot pix 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Nix Pix Hot Pix 1, being sold for $75 (new). Limited number of disks.
Original Hot Pix 1.  
call Voice 904-779-7994 or BBS at 904-777-0778.


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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 817
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/13/93  1:28p
Subj: Digital Dreams                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please snd me a copy of this at my CCI discount price (whatever that means 
<grin>) and also send me 4 caddies. Thanks buddy, BTW I got the two Texel 
3120's you sent and have one of them on line now, need a SCSI cable with a 
couple more connectors on it before I get the other on-line. Thanks again! 

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From: DEAN SCOTT                             Number: 818
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/13/93  1:40a
Subj: Re: Used CD's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry Lee, I was thinking of PC Pix and Nix Pix. Got confuzed.

Dean Scott


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From: DON RIEB                               Number: 819
  To: ROBERT DU GAUE                           Date: 06/13/93  3:32a
Subj: CDROM changer software                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Is that software you were talking about available for Public Domain or 
Shareware?  The CDROM file transfer software.  I have a Pioneer DRM-600 on a 
BBS and need somthing that will put files in to a Qeuiee becouse I have 4 
nodes and 6 disc's run from PonyRom and it would be nice to only alow one
file
to be copied at a time instead of it doing part of a file then part of the 
next file and so on, takes to long switching disc's.

** Don **

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From: DON RIEB                               Number: 820
  To: KENNETH WATTS                            Date: 06/13/93  3:39a
Subj: Re: CHEAP CDROM DRIVE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KW> I am looking for a cheap new or used cdrom drive for my 286 12 mhz
machine.
KW> Can anyone help me out?

I have a internal CDROM drive for $149.  Comes with controller card.

Don at 708-657-1160

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 821
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 06/13/93 11:58a
Subj: Cd's...                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I'll keep an eye out for your next listing, since I haven't seen one
-> lately.  I hope it fits within the columns so I can read it.  Thanks
-> for your efforts.

Peter, I'll be posting an ad tomorrow. Please let me know if you CAN read
it. Thanks for YOUR efforts!

Regards,

Pat

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 822
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93  1:28a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - Phone: (508) 750-6600
Mastercard & Visa accepted (no surcharge). Posted on 06/14/93, @ 01:19.
-------------------------------------------------------------- CD's (UPS
ground shipping is $5.00)
-------------------------------------------------------------- CD-ROM caddies
                                            $5 American Business Phone Book  
                           $23 Anim. Fant. 1 or 2                            
           $30 The Animals                                               $28
Battle Chess                                              $22 Bible library  
                                          $26 Bibles & Religion              
                          $13 Britannica Select                              
          $39 Busty Babes                                               $30
Carmen San Diego                                          $27 CD Game Pack II
                                          $26 Chessmaster 3000               
                          $27 Clipart Goliath                                
          $13 Colossal Cookbook                                         $13
Complete Bookshop                                         $13 Compton
Interactive Encyclopedia                         $103 Dictionaries &
Languages                                  $13 Ecstasy                       
                           $30 Erotic Encounters                             
           $30 Gigabyte Gold                                             $31
Groliers STW Encyclopedia (windows, or 5.0 M/M)           $53 Hot Pix (2, 3,
or 4)                                      $36 Hot Stuff 1                   
                           $18 Hot Stuff 2                                   
           $25 Inspector Gadget                                          $45
KGB-CIA Factbook                                          $31 King's Quest 5 
                                          $23 Kodak Photo CD                 
                          $33 Loom                                           
          $30 Lovely Ladies II                                          $31
Mayo Clinic                                               $97 Microsoft Works
                                          $99 Microsoft Bookshelf            
                          $65 Mixed Up Mother Goose                          
          $23 Moving Fantasies                                          $31
MPC Wizard                                                $14 National
Geographic Mammals                               $26 National Parks          
                                 $31 Night Owl (7 or 8)                      
                 $26 OS/2 Hobbes                                             
 $16 Our Solar System                                          $13 PC Sig 11 
                                               $26 PC Sig Games              
                               $16 PC Pix (1, 2, or 3)                       
               $31 Physical Therapy                                         
$16 Pro Phone 1992                                            $33 Pro Phone
1993                                           $107 Publishit 2.0 (DOS)      
                                $28 Rimfire Pacific                          
                $34 Seventh Heaven                                           
$31 Seventh Guest                                             $67 Sherlock
Cons 1                                           $28 Smutware                
                                 $26 So Much Stareware                       
                 $27 Soundworks                                              
 $19 Storm (I, II, or III)                                     $31 Street
Atlas USA                                          $97 Shareware Extravaganza
                                   $39 Shareware Studio                      
                   $28 Technotools                                           
   $13 Too Many Typefonts                                        $13 US Atlas
w/ Automap                                       $26 VGA Spectrum 1          
                                 $13 Willy Beamish                           
                 $54 Willy Beamish (OEM)                                     
 $22 Windows 1993                                              $22 Wing
Commander 2/Ult. Underground                         $60 Wing Commander 2/OPS
                                     $60 Women In Motion                     
                     $31 x11R5/GNU                                           
     $22 --------------------------------------------------------------
Prices & specifications subject to change without notice. Best time to reach
me: 7-10 AM & 9-12 PM Mon. - Fri., all day Sat. & Sun. (EASTERN)


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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 823
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93  1:28a
Subj: Cd-rom drives & bundles                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - Phone: (508) 750-6600
Mastercard & Visa accepted (no surcharge). Posted on 06/14/93, @ 01:15.
-------------------------------------------------------------- CD-Rom drives 
                                         Price
-------------------------------------------------------------- Texel 265ms
SCSI internal                                $374 Texel 265ms SCSI external  
                             $457 Texel internal bundle                      
             $605 Texel external bundle                                   
$697 Texel internal Multimedia bundle                         $923 Texel
external Multimedia bundle                       $1,036 Chinon external      
                                   $459 Chinon internal                      
                   $338 Magnavox CDD-461RS                                   
   $395 Mitsumi internal CD-ROM                                  $193 Mitsumi
external CD-ROM                                  $285 Magnavox CM-205XRS,
internal                             $361 NEC MultiSpin 38 portable          
                     $417 NEC MultiSpin 84 internal                          
     $534 NEC MultiSpin 74 external                                $595 Tandy
CDR-1000 CD-ROM w/ card                            $150 Toshiba XM3401 200ms
internal                            $472 Toshiba XM3401E 200ms external      
                    $577
-------------------------------------------------------------- Prices &
specifications subject to change without notice. Best time to reach me: 7-10
AM & 9-12 PM Mon. - Fri., all day Sat. & Sun. (EASTERN)

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From: JIM HUSBAND                            Number: 824
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93  6:06p
Subj: FOR TRADE - MAGAZINE RACK               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    I'd like to trade Magazine Rack (1991) for another CD-ROM. I no
longer have any interest in MR, so I will consider almost any CD.
I'll also be glad to sell it, but since I'm not a dealer, payment
would need to be by check/MO.

    Leave mail here if you're interested.

                                                            Jim

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From: JIM HUSBAND                            Number: 825
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93  6:11p
Subj: MITSUMI QUESTIONS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    I have a Mitsumi LU005S, and hope someone can help with several
questions.

    1) Does anyone know if the OS2 2.1 distributed on CD-ROM will
install using the Mitsumi. I've seen several (beta) OS2 drivers,
but am unsure about 2.1 and installation requirements.

    2) What is the latest Mitsumi driver (dates &/or version)?

    3) Where can I get the latest drivers for the drive. While I
may have the latest now, I doubt they will always be the most
current. I received no BBS number, or any contact number for that
matter, with the package.

    4) I added a Sound Galaxy NX board, that will also serve as a
controller for the CD. However, I have only been able to get the
software polling driver (supplied with CD, not Sound board) to work
with it. The Sound Galaxy has two CD drivers. The one indicated for
a Mitsumi drive displays "Panasonic" when it loads, and then fails.
I then tried the other driver (thinking that the doc was simply
wrong), and got no further.

    Any help will be appreciated.

                                                            Jim

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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 826
  To: ANDREW MURPHY                            Date: 06/13/93  9:16p
Subj: Gif/anim disks ?                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

You should reply to some "Free CD catalogs", they often have great info,
sometimes even good prices.
        Just look around before you buy.


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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 827
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93 10:07a
Subj: CLIPART CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can anyone recommend some GOOD clipart cd's? I am looking for 300 dpi or
better in pcx format to use in DTP. I have seen several on this echo but
I am fearful of paying for another CLIPART GOLIATH which had about 50%
in 75 DPI which i can't use.  Also how much duplication is there on the
new cd's that are out. If i buy 6 cd's will I just be duplicating what I
already have? Please send me any information you might have and a price
list. Good descriptions encourage me to buy whereas no descriptions
leave me with a lot of questions.

MIKE PETRO
2803 EMERSON RD
GREENSBORO  NC  27405
 þ QMPro 1.01 22-2345 þ MSI HQ! BBS þ 805-395-0650 Home of Off-Line Xpress!


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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 828
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/12/93  9:27a
Subj: Re: NEW CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

===========================================================================
Packet: ANSWER
Date: 06-10-93 (00:11)             Number: 464
From: LEE NOGA                     Refer#: NONE
  To: MIKE PETRO                    Recvd: YES
Subj: Re: NEW CD                     Conf: (11) CDROM_Sale


LN>As one of the author's let me answer this one--*YOU BET*, they are all
  >300-600DPI, no junk, no dupes--11,000+, and the book which


MP>LN>> THANKS, I AM TRYING TO GET FULLBLOWN INTO DTP AND I NEED
ALL THE HELP I CAN GET. HAVE SEEN THE THE NEW "PAGE PLUS V.2" YET? THE
REVIEWS ARE ALL GOOD ON IT. IS IT REALLY WORTH TRASHING PUBLISHER AND
PAGEMAKER OVER THIS. THE LOW PRICE MAKES ME SKEPTICAL!
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From: BEN BARTON                             Number: 829
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93  1:26p
Subj: WANTED PHILLIPS CM-100                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a Phillips CM-100 external CDROM drive that has room for an
additional drive in the case.  I'd like to add a second unit.  If anyone
has one of these ancient things, I would appreciate your getting in touch.

Thanks,
Ben


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From: GABE HOWARD                            Number: 830
  To: THE SISTER                               Date: 06/14/93  2:38p
Subj: Re: CDROM RETAILER                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Gabe-
->         Could you please send me a copy of you Adult Titles, Cd- Rom.
-> an Adult BBS and I would like to get a new Adult Cd Disk to use onlin
-> currently use Storm 3.
->                         Joannine Gesualdo
->                                 Snail Mail  P.O. Box 21041
->                                 Des Moines, Iowa, 503

Allright..   It would be in your best interest to call my BBS at
614-436-0180 ...

Or me personally at 614-436-9223 ..

Cornerstone Computer Solutions


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From: GABE HOWARD                            Number: 831
  To: FRANK KNAPP                              Date: 06/14/93  2:40p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Please send catalog (all titles)
-> to:
-> Frank Knapp
-> PO Box 234
-> Souderton, PA 18964
->
-> Thanks

Your best bet would be to call my Bulletin Board at 614-436-0180 ...

24hours/7 Days a week..

Gabe Howard / Cornerstone Computer Solutions


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From: GABE HOWARD                            Number: 832
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 06/14/93  2:43p
Subj: CDROM RETAILER                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> MB>GH+If you would like a catalog of over 400 CDROM titles.....
->
-> MB>        Hello Gabe,
->
-> MB>        Please send one to me:
-> MB>                Michael Booth
-> MB>                31 Bethesda Ct.
-> MB>                Sacramento, CA 95838
->
-> MB>Michael
->
->
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-> MB> * Origin: 24th Street Exchange - A BBS Since 1983 * (916) 451-717
-> Hello Gabe,
->         Please send me a catalog at:
->         Sam's Software
->         Sam Figueroa
->         Rt 2 Box 2453-A
->         Manchester, Tn 37355
->                                    Thanks?!

Your best bet would be to call my Bulletin Board Service at
614-436-0180.

I say this because CDROM prices changes so frequently..  I want to give
you an accurate price..

Cornerstone Computer Solutions...
Gabe Howard


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 833
  To: ALL DEALERS                              Date: 06/13/93 10:24a
Subj: INFO WANTED!!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In the classified section of the latest PC Magazine (6/29/93 edition) on 
page 406, there's an ad from an outfit called Romulus Entertainment. 
Among the adult-oriented CDs they're offering is a new product called 
"The Interactive Adult Movie Almanac". Their 800 number sales line 
couldn't tell me squat about the disk and, not being a dealer, I didn't 
call their "dealer inquiry" line (310-453-5068). The sales line did give 
me the number for Laser Concepts which they said could help me 
(818-884-9437). All I've been able to get so far at that number is a 
phone mail system which appears to work about as well as Trantor's :( . 
  
The suggested retail price for the "almanac" is $129.95 (in their 
dreams!) but, as any of you who know me by now will attest, there's no 
way I'm plunking down even half of that amount without more data.  I'm 
very interested in having such a disk *IF* it's any good as it would let 
me clear off about 30 megs of my hard drive that has similar data in it. 
  
If it is any good (e.g. not an empty CD, has a usable search engine, 
etc. etc. etc.), the first dealer to find out and make a reasonable 
price offering will get the business.  Do your homework and call me at 
713-488-0065 (before 10 p.m. CDT, p-l-e-a-s-e).  Ciao! 
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From: CHRIS BARRETT                          Number: 834
  To: ANDREW MURPHY                            Date: 06/14/93 11:03a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 > I agree.  I just got it too, after seeing someone elses VGASectrum I.
 > It is parked on a shelf, back in it's original box.  Took about 5
 > minutes to decide it wasn't worth putting on the BBS, though it would
 > make a great basisi for a system demo in a store or something.  There
 > are a lot of nice animations.  That just sin't what I bought it for!

    I managed to luck out and had a friend who bought it from me for a little
more then I paid for it...
    What really pissed me off was how it was sold! Why call it VGA Spectrum
II when there is nothing to do with VGA on it?!? Now, if it had of been
called Sound Spectrum, that would have been a heck of a better name!
    Well, cya later.

                                        Chris

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From: JOSH BERRY                             Number: 835
  To: TONY D. BERRY                            Date: 06/14/93 11:57a
Subj: Software                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TB> Your name is the same as my brothers! I have been in the BBS
TB> scene for 12 years, calling to and fro, from state to state,
TB> even overseas, and this is the first I have seen that!

TB> Anyway, do you have some CD software for sale? If so, I am
TB> interested. Please
TB> respond with titles and asking price.

TB> Tony D. Berry

TB> --- GEcho 1.00/beta+
TB>  * Origin: Genesis * 4.5 Gig * HST 16.8 * 501-267-9600 
TB> (1:391/1180)
        That is interesting. Anyway no I don't sell stuff, I'm only 14.
Later...
                                        Josh
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From: KENNETH WATTS                          Number: 836
  To: DON RIEB                                 Date: 06/14/93 10:13p
Subj: Re: CHEAP CDROM DRIVE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Don:
    How about a few specs on that drive.  Brand name,seek time,transfer 
rate.  Is it mpc compliant? Not necesary but would be nice.  Just let
me know.
                                        Ken

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From: JIM CUMMINGS                           Number: 837
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93  9:41p
Subj: U.S. Govt CD-ROMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Has anyone seen the CD-ROM put out by the U.S. Superintendent
of Documents that has the "U.S. Code, containing the general
and permanent laws of the U.S., in force on January 2, 1991"?
It costs $ 30.00 and I wondered if it was interesting or falls
into the curiosity category.
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 838
  To: DAN WAGNER                               Date: 06/12/93  9:59p
Subj: 4 EXTERNAL CD DRIVES $600               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


DW> Im interested in your 4 Hitachi drives. Do you have  some  specs
 DW> on them? Also what would you  charge  for  shiping  overseas  to
 DW>  South  Africa.  What  types  of  payment  would  you    accept?
  
  These drives are not fast but they  work  great  on a  bbs.   The
  access time is over 500 ms but the transfer rate is 150  kbs.   I
  have shipped some of them to Australia, Germany and other  points
  outside the USA.  The best and less  expensive  way  that I  have
  found to ship is via US air mail.  That cost  of  shipping  for 4
  drives  with  power  supply  is  $130.   I  would  have  to  have
  prepayment in US currency.  Most foreign  customers  are  sending
  the money via a  bank  wire.   Let  me  know  if  you  need  that
  information.
 
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 839
  To: DOUG M VANVLEET                          Date: 06/12/93 10:07p
Subj: Hitachi Card                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


DM>    I'm in the market for a reasonably priced contoller card  for
 DM> a Hitachi CDR-3500 internal drive.  If you have one that  you're
 DM> wanted to part with, please reply via this echo, netmail, or you
 DM> may call voice at 919-7865662. I'm located  in  North  Carolina.
 DM> Thanks!
  
  I have them new for $60 + $10 shipping/c.o.d.    If you  buy  one
  you will qualify for my latest and greatest shareware  cd  "Cream
  of   the   Crop"   for    1/2    price.      Call    205-824-2552
  
  I also have about 50  of  those  Hitachi  drives  like  your  are
  running.  You can add/daisy chain them  with  your  drive,  AND I
  have external cases with or without power supply.  The drives are
  $130 each. The external cases are $25 and the power supplies  are
  $25.   I also have special custom made cables that  will  connect
  to   the   outside   of   the   controller    card    for    $30.
 
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 840
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 06/13/93 10:40a
Subj: CREAM OF THE CROP STATS                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 Cream of the Crop  shareware cd rom disc:
  
  Cream of the Crop was designed  with  the  idea  to  include  the
  highest quality selection of shareware programs available  today.
  There are no gif's, no music, not adult, and  very  few  programs
  that are for a specific bbs package.  This saved a great deal  of
  disc space that is used to include a wider variety of programs to
  satisfy the average pc user.  Sysops  who  have  only 1  or 2  cd
  drives find that this is the  BEST  concept  since  changing  out
  several disc  to  offer  their  users  such a  selection  is  not
  practical.
  
  The files are archived with ARJ and the archive comment  contains
  the description of the  program  inside  making  it  possible  to
  execute "ARJ L <filename>"  to find out what the program is about
  without having  to  extract  the  docs  or  look  it  up  in  the
  files.bbs. Since most great programs aren't  upgraded  every  few
  months about 1/3  of  the  files  are  1991.  There  are  several
  programs I have written to  assist  the  sysops  of  several  bbs
  programs  (Maximus,  Spitfire,  Remote  Access,  Quick  BBS   and
  PCBoard) to automatically and INSTANTLY set up Cream of the  Crop
  for their users. If you have ever had to set  up a  cd  rom  disc
  manually you will surely appreciate a utility that  will  set  up
  the disc in less than two minutes with NO errors!   Files.bbs  is
  available in every directory for Sysops of  bbs  programs  that I
  did not have time (or the necessary information about) to write a
  utility to automatically set up Cream of the Crop.  Here is  what
  one Sysop had to say in  the  international  CD  Rom  conference:
  
   To: ALL                                        Date:   6/10/1993
  From: STEPHEN GUPTON                             Time:   6:51  pm
  Subj: ALA Terry Blount
  
  I ordered Cream Of The Crop from Terry, and am quite  pleased  to
  find a disk that self installs vs having to  type  in  50  or  so
  directories. Is there a reason why nobody else has  figured  this
  out?
  
 <*=- Stephen -=*>
  
 * Origin: Club Mud, St.Augustine,Fl. (904) 829-8741 (1:3620/16)
 ===============================================================
  
 Cream of the Crop has an easy to use front end program for end
 users to view and retrieve up to 50 files to copy at once to a
 target drive/directory.
  
 Cream of the Crop shareware cd file summary stats:
  
 BATCH       48 files    2905394 bytes
 BBS        178 files   25630043 bytes
 BUSINESS   385 files   71263855 bytes
 CAD         95 files   13302158 bytes
 COMM       241 files   31062408 bytes
 COMPRESS   126 files    9376418 bytes
 DATABASE   351 files   63803213 bytes
 DESQVIEW   105 files    5453673 bytes
 DIAG        73 files    5646969 bytes
 DISK       247 files   23191726 bytes
 EDITOR     276 files   31561687 bytes
 EDUCATE    394 files   50774270 bytes
 GAMES      340 files   55499389 bytes
 KEYBOARD    36 files    1714367 bytes
 LAN         66 files    6710370 bytes
 MONITOR    140 files   12079285 bytes
 OS2        184 files   21155705 bytes
 PRINTER    192 files   19393381 bytes
 PROGRAM    461 files   38257644 bytes
 RELIGION    51 files   13589714 bytes
 SOUND       78 files    7988655 bytes
 UTILITY    290 files   25093899 bytes
 VIRUS       63 files    4608588 bytes
 WINDOWS    650 files   79671285 bytes
  
 Total     5070 files  619734096 bytes
  
 Thanks for considering "Cream of the Crop"  shareware cd for your
 collection.  The price is $39.  If you are a Sysop listed in  the
 Fidonet Nodelist.dat you qualify for a copy  at  half  price.   I
 know how much Sysops spend to support their bbs and  offer  their
 callers such great services... usually for free.
  
 Terry Blount
 205-824-2552
 
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From: DON HANCOCK                            Number: 841
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 06/13/93  6:13a
Subj: Need To Know                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 06-10-93 Ryan Denke wrote to Bob Spillers... 
 
 RD> connect to the Cd-Rom drive. I would look for a drive with 
 RD> no more than 500ms seek time, preferably less than 400. 
 RD> Ideally you should get a multimedia "kit" with a 
 RD> Soundblaster pro. That way you have no compatability 
 RD> problems and the Soundblaster is a lot easier to set up 
 
Personal experience has been that the Soundblaster kits' drives have been the

SLOWEST on the market! They have been around 600ms access, tho' the sound
card 
is good. Personally, okay sound and better CD is best. I got a SB Pro (paid 
$90 for it NEW!) but I'm looking for something better than a Matsushita. 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50  "Illiterate?  Write for FREE HELP!" 

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From: DON HANCOCK                            Number: 842
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 06/13/93  6:13a
Subj: Mitsumi Audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 06-11-93 Tim Klan wrote to Brice Fleckenstein... 
 
 TK>  Through the Headphone jack on front, or through soundblaster's audio 
 TK> output, wiring Mitsumi's outputs into the Soundblaster's input... 
 
What other possibilities are there?! 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50  "If all fails read the manual, then call tech support and
complain...." 

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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 843
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93  4:59p
Subj: Pier II                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Who has the best price on Pier II?
I have seen it advertised for $45.00, Thats too much for a shareware rom. I
think more in the neiborhood of $35.00 would be more like it..
Any takers?
If anyone wishes to sell send net to tag line.. 

-Joe
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 844
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93  5:02p
Subj: Old Mitsumi's                           Refer: NONE
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Does anyone have any of the old 680ms Mitsumi's they want to get rid of?
I need three of them.. 

-Joe
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From: JIM SHARRER                            Number: 845
  To: PAUL HAMMERSCHMIDT                       Date: 06/14/93  9:20a
Subj: Problem with a cd                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hi all... I have a Sony CDRom, and all of a sudden, the darn thing
-> keeps spitting out the disks. It won't let the caddy and the disk
-> stay in the drive. When, on the rare occasion it does, when I try and
-> access the drive, it says that the drive won't respond. Any
-> suggestions? It's only happening with the Adult ROM that I use on my
-> bbs, not with other roms. Could it be that the disk is
-> defective/scratched and the laser won't read it????

Its dirty.
I had the same exact problem with mine...would only do it on certain
discs. Other's it would read fine.  Radio Shack sells a cleaning CD,
which is basically a disc with a tiny brush positioned over the laser,
which may do the job.  It worked on mine, but only for a month, and then
a more intense, invasive cleaning was required.  Hopefully, the cleaning
CD will do the trick, and at $10-15, its not a bad investment for anyone
with computer/audio CD players.

...Jim...


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 846
  To: ADRIAN PENDELL                           Date: 06/13/93 10:52p
Subj: 7th Guest...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <10 Jun 93  17:22:00>, Adrian Pendell (1:232/39) writes:
 >        I have really been wanting to buy this game, and, infact,
 >        actually had taken it up to the register to buy it when I
 >        noticed the box said it requires an SVGA monitor w/ 1 meg RAM
 >        -is this true? If so, it seems a real dissapointment for those
 >        of us who don't have SVGA cards ( I, personally, can't see a
 >        damn bit of difference between the two..), and this would, along
 >        w/ LInks 386, be only the second game i've ever seen that had
 >        such a requirement...Thanks ahead of time...
Sorry I can't answer your question, but it is funny how software makers will
call 640x480x256 Super VGA, when, in fact, it is not. They also think that
320x200 (MCGA) is VGA, when it is not. It is stupid for them to make a true
SVGA game because they would lose so many buyers like you. I don't know about
Seventh, but for Links386Pro, if it supports your video card, you should be
able to use it. I wonder if Seventh uses any specific drivers. There is a
difference between VGA and SVGA, believe me. You must not have ever seen true
SVGA. Granted, I really don't see that the extra resolution makes a whole lot
of difference....That is why it would also be stupid for them to make a tru
SVGA game.


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From: MARC FONTENOT                          Number: 847
  To: BEN NATION                               Date: 06/15/93 12:32a
Subj: items for sale or trade...              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ben,
Do you still have the CD So Much Shareware 2?  If so please respond.  I have
been looking for a good starter CD for my bbs I will set up in Houston.
Thanks for the responce in advance!        
                                            Marc Fontenot    sysop of:
                                            The Liberals Nightmare BBS
                                            (a future Rushnet Echo!)

                                            

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 848
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  2:00a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% BRAND NEW MONSTER MEDIA 93 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
               420 + Megs Of ALL NEW Files For 1993
N          No-Dups - Virus Checked - Advanced File Viewer
O C         Files BBS Structure For Several BBS Systems
T O C            Will Be Updated 3 Times A Year !!!
H M L           File Dates From Jan 1 - April 20 1993
I E O        Everything From A - Z In Shareware Programs
N S S                 CD & Manual - Price - $35.
G   E         C.C.I Customers Call For Special Discount !!!

 ORDERS ONLY - 800-243-0517 Or For Additional Info Call 216-225-3263
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%


Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 849
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  2:00a
Subj: Specials                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Monster Disk - $35.  Shareware Extravag - $45.   CD PowerBox      - $20.
Pier 1       - $29.  SoundWaV           - $25.   Shareware Online - $29.
Asian Ladies - $35.  Adult Ref Library  - $35.   All ChestNuts    - $14.
Hobbs OS/2   - $25.  Windows 1993       - $25.   Night Owl 8      - $29.
Groilers Ency DOS / Windows Version - $50.00ec   Night Owl 7      - $19.
Gameware     - $30.  Canadian Shareware - $15.   IBM Sampler      - $ 7.
  Mitsumi Int (350ms) - $195. Nec36M - Complete Ext SCSI System $269.
        Pioneer DM600 - Bare Drive - $799.     DM604X - $1199.
 ORDERS ONLY - 800-243-0517 For Tech or Product Info Call - 216-225-3263
      (((((((((((   Call Us - You'll Be Glad You Did   ))))))))))))))


Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 850
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  3:05a
Subj: CDROM PRICES PART 2                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        C.C.I'S HOT SUMMER PRICE LIST FOR JUNE - GAMES AND CHILDRENS
=============================================================================

7th Guest                      Adventure game; smooth full-motion video $55
Aesop's Fables                 54 Fables in Ebook MultiMedia Storybook  $35
Arthur's Teacher Trouble       Ages 5-9. Learn to read w/ anim & sound  $29
Barney Bear Goes to School     Ages 3-8. First day at school and games  $25
Barney Bear Goes to Space      Ages 3-8. Trip to Cape Canaveral & games $25
Battle Chess                   Chess with animation screens and manual  $20
Battle Chess Enhanced          Chess with great graphics & sound effect $29
Beyond the Wall of Stars       Journey to Tara MultiMedia adventure     $25
Carmen Deluxe: World           Enhanced graphics & sounds;much improved $29
Chess Master Deluxe            High skills and very challanging         $30
Dinosaur Adventure             Ages 5-105. New. SVGA color,sound,video  $49
Jungle Book: Mowgli's Bros     Kipling's story of boy raised by wolves  $35
Just Grandma and Me            Ages 3-8. Learn to read w/anim. & sound  $39
King's Quest V                 Stereo sound w/ over 50 different voices $25
Loom                           Full animation, special effects, & music $25
Macmillan Children's Dict      Kindergarten up, w/ pictures, sounds     $35
Mantis                         W/ speech pack and other CD enhancements $29
Mixed-up Mother Goose          Preschooler rhymes and stories in 5 lang $25
National Geographic Mammals    700 photos, 155 calls, 45 movies + text  $29
Peter and the Wolf             Excellent music, text, and illustrations $25
Peter Rabbit                   Beatrix Potter in 256-color VGA + sound  $35
Playing with Languages         French,German,Spanish,Japanese,or Engl   $35
Secret of Monkey Island        CD calypso/reggae soundtrack; Que bueno! $25
Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe    Includes the 4 Tour of Duty extensions   $25
Sherlock Holmes Detective #1   Video with real actors. 3 cases to solve $25
Sherlock Holmes Detective #3   Latest improved version; 3 more cases    $55
Space Adventure                Explore in SVGA 256 color w/sound,video  $49
Space Quest IV                 Roger Wilco at his best. Enhanced vers.  $25
Stellar 7                      Battle Zone with CD soundtrack & speech  $25
The Star Child                 By Oscar Wilde. Fun & imaginative. Ebook $35
The White Horse Child          By science fiction writer Greg Bear.     $39
Who Killed Sam Rupert          Interactive mystery w/video, sound, anim $29
Wing Commander & Ultima VI     With both manuals & Ultima VI paper map  $25


PAYMENT: We accept VISA or M/C (no surcharge), checks, & money orders.
S/H PER ORDER: US $4, Canada $6. We can ship anywhere; just ask for quote.
 
$$ VOICE (216) 225-3263  FAX: (216) 225-6759   ORDERS ONLY (800) 243-0517 $$
 

Boris Osadciw

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 851
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 06/14/93  9:42a
Subj: Re: .TXT files                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <06-12-93 18:51> Ismail Arslangiray wrote:

IA>> If I remember correctly, you had a partner (Blaine I think). What
IA>> happened to him? Is it possible for you to provide his mailing
IA>> address for me? or a telephone number? Thanks

He reads this echo, and you are correct he is now off and running with his
own company to publish CD's--We have gone our separate ways, and he will know
how to get in contact with you if that is his choice.

Your Welcome,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 852
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 06/14/93  9:44a
Subj: Re: GEEZ                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <06-12-93 18:53> Ismail Arslangiray wrote:

IA>> Also they provide 800 numbers to only to reputable companies with
IA>> good payment history.

I do believe that is the same basis for getting any phone number, your
electric turned on, water service, and a check cashing card at the grocery
store. Off topic, and end of thread.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 853
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/14/93  7:52p
Subj: Re: Cd Software Catalog                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

               *****  Quoting Brian Buck to Jim Lambert  *****

 BB> Hi Jim!  I would also like a copy of your latest CDROM software catalog
 BB> that lists ALL titles you sell.


Ditto!  Please send one my way as well, thanks!

                                 .\\ark Johnsen
                               10B Texas Street
                          Satellite Beach, Fl  32937

Thanks in advance, regards.


.\\ark


 
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From: DOUG HASE                              Number: 854
  To: ANDREW MURPHY                            Date: 06/13/93 10:54p
Subj: GIF/ANIM DISKS ?                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

So Much Screenware is a good selection of all types of .gifs.   I think there
are better CDs out there than Giffy Gold, which is X not R.  If X is what
you're looking for, Visual Fantasies is better and Lovely Ladies II is R
rated.  

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 855
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93  6:24p
Subj: Windows Users!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                      -= CD PowerBox =-

Slated to be the new industry standard, the PowerBox is over 650 megs
of shareware!  This disk actually has BOTH a Windows-based and a
DOS-based Graphical User Interface!  Forget the Nightowl series, the
PowerBox offers an affordable option.  Only $19.95!

                       -= CD WinBox =-

This is THE Windows disk available today!  Supporting Win3.x AND the
new Windows NT, the WinBox has over 630 Megs of pure Windows
shareware.  Use the Windows based installation program to quickly
start accessing this disk with its Windows Graphical Interface!  Now
only $29.95!

Please mention this FidoNet ad to get these special prices!

Dave Reed
CD-ROM International
(800) 678-2374 (Orders)
(509) 754-0724 (Voice)
(509) 754-0109 (BBS/Fax)

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From: TORSTEN DROSTE                         Number: 856
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  4:40p
Subj: Mitsumi OS/2 driver                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Features of totronik's OS/2 driver 1.0 for Mitsumi LU005S:
----------------------------------------------------------

- Polling and interrupt driver version included
- Single-session Photo-CD support. Driver switches automatically between
  Photo-CD and CD-ROM mode
- Audio support with included PLAY-Program
- Multi-Adapter support for more than one LU005S drive
- Installation program for OS/2 2.0 und 2.1
- All LU005S drives supported including drives manufactured in March/April
  and a serial number starting with Dxxxxx


UPDATE:
-------
- Multimedia player support and multi-session Photo-CD support will be added.
  As multi-session is a really tricky feature there is no exact release date
  available for this version

Updates with new features will be available for a small update fee, bug fixes
free of charge.


LU002S:
-------
Although the driver is reported to work with the LU002S we didn't test it.


Soundcard w/ Mitsumi interface:
-------------------------------
The driver is reported to work also with the AZTECH SOUND GALAXY NX cards
with
Mitsumi interface but hasn't been tested with this soundcard.


If you want to order the driver see ORDER.TXT or send mail to:


                   totronik Torsten Droste
                   Hauptstaetterstr. 35
                   DW-7000 Stuttgart 1     (D-70173 Stuttgart after July,1st)
                   Germany

                   Phone: 49-711-244272
                   Fax:   49-711-6406815
                   CIS: 100064,1346
                   FIDO: 2:244/40.17

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From: TORSTEN DROSTE                         Number: 857
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  4:41p
Subj: Mitsumi OS/2 driver                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

              ORDER FORM FOR MITSUMI LU005S OS/2 DRIVER V1.0

Qty             Item                                                    
Price
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

           x    Mitsumi LU005S CD-ROM DRIVER OS/2     USD $23/ea
                [ ] 5.25" disk
                    Default will be 3.5" disk
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                                                      Sub-Total:  
____________
SHIPPING        Germany              USD $4
                All other countries  USD $6
                                                      Shipping:   
____________


                                                      TOTAL:      
============

PAYMENT

- C.O.D. only available in Germany

- Credit Card: no surcharge

  [ ] AMEX      [ ] VISA      [ ] EURO/MASTERCARD

    Card holder:        ______________________________________

    Card number         ______________________________________

    Expiring date:      ______________________________________

    Signature:          ______________________________________


- Personel check: add USD $15 for bank fee

  Draw check to:        totronik Torsten Droste
                        Hauptstaetterstr. 35
                        DW-7000 Stuttgart 1

                        (D-70173 Stuttgart       after July,1st.)

Shipping adress:

    Name:               ____________________________________

    Street:             ____________________________________

    City:               ____________________________________  Zip:  ________

    Country:            ____________________________________

    Phone:              _____________________  Fax: ________________________

Mail order to:
                        totronik Torsten Droste
                        Hauptstaetterstr. 35
                        DW-7000 Stuttgart 1

                        (D-70173 Stuttgart       after July,1st.)
                        Phone: 711-244272
                        Fax:   711-6406815

Send FIDO Crashmail to 2:244/40.17        or          CIS EMail to
100064,1346

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From: DENNIS STERNER                         Number: 858
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  6:57a
Subj: SONY PARTS                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
Can anybody give me a price on a controller card for an external 
Sony CD-ROM player #7205.  I think card # is CBD-24?.  
I also need a cable  for controller to player.

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 859
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  1:02p
Subj: Toshiba CD_ROMs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Both Drives Include:  90 Day Warranty, External DIP switches, True 50 pin
  SCSI, 350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume, newest ROM
  installed.  Diagnostic/cleaning done by service center.  NO special
  drivers required.  5.25 - Half Height Drive. 64k Buffer and manual.

205-837-5053 -=- Leave Message if not home, it WILL be returned -=-



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From: TONY ROBERTS                           Number: 860
  To: JIM HUSBAND                              Date: 06/15/93  8:56p
Subj: Speaking of Mag Rack                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Re: FOR TRADE - MAGAZINE RACK

Is there a new edition for 1992 or 1993 ??

If so, I'm interested...

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From: CARLOS AVELLANET                       Number: 861
  To: JIM HUSBAND                              Date: 06/15/93  5:52p
Subj: Re: MITSUMI QUESTIONS                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Jim Husband to All <=-

 JH> 1) Does anyone know if the OS2 2.1 distributed on CD-ROM will
 JH> install using the Mitsumi. I've seen several (beta) OS2 drivers,
 JH> but am unsure about 2.1 and installation requirements.

     No it does not. You can only install OS/2 2.1 direct from CD-ROM to 
     floppy if you have a SCSI CD-ROM recognized by OS/2. You'll have to 
     make all 25 diskettes using the program included in the CD, install 
     from those floppies and then create and IMAGE file using VMDISK to 
     load up MSCDEX. Is rather complicated for me to explain here.

Carlos.

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From: CHARLES HART                           Number: 862
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/15/93  8:47p
Subj: CD COMPARISONS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>           % OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
  >          ---------------------------------------------------
  >>>   Note:  Diagonal reflects % of INTERNAL dupes within a given CD.  <<

MS>     PR1   PR2   NO7   NO8   SS1   SS2   MON   SC2   SV1   CDP   SWO
  >   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
  >PR1| .06%| .23%| 1.8%| 6.5%| 3.2%| 7.2%| 7.6%| 6.5%| .70%| 2.1%| 4.5%|
  >   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
  >PR2| .23%| .00%| .09%| .43%| .34%| 2.5%| 1.7%| .85%| .40%| .18%| .19%|

Ok, that update made the numbers more meaningful.  Thanks.

Now, how about indicating the situation where the CD fails to have all
the files required to make a program useful on it?  Take Pier 2, as a
classic example that I have and can relate a sad experience from:

  COVIS2.ZIP     244202  11-19-92  Covis 2 of 2

Looks interesting, if you are into the Mathematics area - right?  Now
try to find Disk *1* of 2.  It's not there, anywhere on the CD that I
can find.  There are other examples, but I think you get my point:

A product not done well should not be done at all, period!  Pier 2 is
demonstrably not done well and someone should audit the disk for these
failures instead of praising the disk to the high heavens.

Thanks for letting me get my 2 cents in......


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From: CHARLES HART                           Number: 863
  To: PAUL ELLIOTT                             Date: 06/15/93  9:12p
Subj: BBS Ready Sharware CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PE>All files are free of archive errors, archive comments, BBS ads, AV codes,
a
  >all known computer viruses. Also, all archive dates match the last date
with
  >the archive.

PE>Every effort has been made to avoid having multiple versions of the same
  >software.
  >There are no duplicates between Volume I and Volume II.

As I mentioned in another message, I have been somewhat disappointed by
Pier 2 due to several files being incomplete for their intended purpose
- for example:

  COVIS2.ZIP     244202  11-19-92  Covis 2 of 2

is on the disk but COVIS 1 of 2 is nowhere to be found.  This is either

a) A failure of the compiler to care what the user did with the files,
or:

b) A failure of the compiler to even look at the contents of the files
he is processing and thus (possibly) change the file name if the COVIS
on this disk is indeed complete.  Which in this case it is not, but the
concept is indeed possible.

In either case, it's gross negligence to include only part of the files
required to make the program perform the intended function.

How does your disk stack up in this area?


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From: CHARLES HART                           Number: 864
  To: JIM CUMMINGS                             Date: 06/15/93  9:18p
Subj: U.S. Govt CD-ROMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JC>Has anyone seen the CD-ROM put out by the U.S. Superintendent
  >of Documents that has the "U.S. Code, containing the general
  >and permanent laws of the U.S., in force on January 2, 1991"?
  >It costs $ 30.00 and I wondered if it was interesting or falls
  >into the curiosity category.

Thanks for mentioning that CD-ROM.  I had completely ignored the US
government as a source of information in this format and your message
reminded me that somewhere in that vast organization there's someone
right now publishing just the one I need.....

<g>


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From: BOB KELLY                              Number: 865
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93  6:24a
Subj: SONY CD-ROM DRIVES WANTED               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for additional Sony CD-ROM drives for my BBS.

If they are 40-pin Sony Bus-compatible, and they cost around
$100 each, I will take them off your hands.

Do you have any that you want to sell?

Echo here, or call 804-483-1433. Thanks!

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From: VERNON MELTON                          Number: 866
  To: HOWARD ONEIL                             Date: 06/14/93  1:47p
Subj: Re: Trade Wanted                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                    -=> Quoting Howard Oneil to All <=-

 HO> ITEM 3 : Mitsubshi 1.2 Meg 5 1/4" floppy. (Excellent Condition,
 HO> Pulled from working system). GRAY
I'll offer $25.00 for this floppy drive.
 HO> ITEM 4 : VLSI Mini 80286 Motherboard w/512k. (Good condition,
 HO> No Documentation, w/EMS software).
 HO> FEATURES : Phoenix Bios & expandable to 4 megs on board,
 HO> using Sipp or Dram.
 HO> Original costs $100.00
I'll offer $15.00 for the MB...  can't hardly find a SIPP anymore.
Later,
      Vernon Melton

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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 867
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/14/93  9:16a
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 1/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Mike:

In a msg of <Sunday June 13 1993>, Mike Shannon writes to Tyler A. Wunder:

 TAW> MS>> Bible Library.................31.00
 MS> CA75 BIBLE LIBRARY - Nine Bibles and 20 reference books with
concordances.
 MS> Also has five word studies, 3000 sermon outlines, two commentaries,
 MS> and eight dictionaries. DOS

     Ok, sounds interesting.

 TAW> MS>> Shakespeare...................17.50
 MS> CA235 SHAKESPEARE - Complete collection of Shakespeare's works,
including
 MS> 37 plays, and 159 poems and sonnets. Provided in original form (Queen's
 MS> English), and plain English. DOS MAC

     What are the search capabilities of the disk?  Does it offer a
word/phrase search?  Sorry if this is a given, but I'm new to the cd rom
thing (haven't even bought one yet, but am looking for something to make me
want to).

 MS> Tyler - Hope that answers most of your questions.  Give me a call if you
 MS> want, and we can cuss and discuss. <g>

     Well, unless you've got a 1-800 number, I won't be calling long
distance, and will have to settle for this echo.




Tyler A. Wunder

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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 868
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/14/93  2:22p
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 1/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Mike:

In a msg of <Monday June 14 1993>, Tyler A. Wunder writes to Mike Shannon:

 TAW>      What are the search capabilities of the disk?  Does it offer a
 TAW> word/phrase search?  Sorry if this is a given, but I'm new to the cd
rom
 TAW> thing (haven't even bought one yet, but am looking for something to
make
 TAW> me want to).
 MS>> Tyler - Hope that answers most of your questions.  Give me a call if
 MS>> you want, and we can cuss and discuss. <g>
 TAW>      Well, unless you've got a 1-800 number, I won't be calling long
 TAW> distance, and will have to settle for this echo.

     Well, obviously I've changed my mind and realized that the phone number
is for placing orders as well as making inquiries (I guess I wasn't thinking
at 9 in the morning when I sent that one to you). Please disregard the last
message I sent you.




Tyler A. Wunder

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From: BRIAN WHEATLEY                         Number: 869
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/15/93  8:04a
Subj: Re: .TXT files                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi, I will buy your tape, for $30. what type of games, would you put on it? I
live right abive Washington State, in Canada, in a City called Surrey, near
Vancouver, how much would this cost? Thanks, hope to hear from you soon.

Brian.

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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 870
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93 11:15p
Subj: NEC drive for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

.NEC external CDROM CDR36 w/8bit controller...$200..........used

James F. Porter
(813) 345-7297
 þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Who said that Interstellar Empires don't exit?


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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 871
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/15/93 10:49p
Subj: Florida Lion's Den In                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

|LN> They dislike the idea that we sell our ROMS for profits (or            |
|LN> better said, we distribute their shareware for a profit                |
|LN> from which they get nothing).                                          |
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Lee

How come they never really got too upset about the people that used to
sell shareware floppy disks.....these guys were selling a disk they
paid less than a $.25 for at prices from $1.50 to $5.00 per disk.  I
would think that these guys were making more given the capital
investment required.

I believe that the Shareware CD-ROM disks, since they have thousands
of programs on them, have a broader appeal to the general public than
any one persons shareware program.....therefore generating more sales
than any individual shareware program.  If the programmers want to
capture this market for themselves.....Maybe they should write a
program that can do EVERYTHING.
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From: KEVIN WILLIAMS                         Number: 872
  To: VACLAV VYVODA                            Date: 06/14/93  8:53p
Subj: 7th Guest...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

It just so happens I have one up for sale, its internal, and if you know the
model number than you know what it is....Make an offer! I'm flexible

Toshiba XM-3301b for Sale....

               Reply here, trades considered....

               Kevin Williams

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 873
  To: KEITH HERALD                             Date: 06/15/93  3:20a
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-sale or trad               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KH> SS> I have STORM II adult CD-ROM for sale or trade, I would prefer

KH>        I have the Stareware CD that I will trade you for your STORM II.

I have seen most of the Stareware CD, but if I get no other trade
offers, I will trade...     Let me know if you are still interested.
           Thanks!
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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 874
  To: LEE HICKERSLY                            Date: 06/12/93 12:55a
Subj: .TXT files                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LH>Is there a cd that specializes in Adult .TXT files? Does anyone have
LH>a large amount of them built up from other cd's? I would like to get
LH>like one QIC-40 tape of .TXT files... I will sned the tape, or pay
LH>for yours (prefer that)..
LH>                                Thanx
LH>---
LH> * Origin: An Image Of Perfection <WINDOWS!> (303)665-4345 (1:104/124.0)
If you want Adult .TXT files I have about 1,200 of them, if want them
please call me and we can arrange a way to get them to you!
                                Sam Figueroa
                                Sam's Software


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 875
  To: DON HOUSTON                              Date: 06/13/93  7:31p
Subj: Gif/anim disks ?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DH>What is a good video disk for BBS use?  Looking for G Gifs of everything
und
DH>the sun.  Animations are optional.  Anyone got any recomendations. Also
DH>looking for an R gif disk.  I have heard Giffy Gold is a pretty good one. 
A
DH>comments on it?  Any other recomendations?

DH>        I am using SOFTWARE VAULT from American Data Bankers bot Vol. 1
DH>        & Vol.2 All 1992 and some 1993 stuff. Nice folk. Their 800 # is
DH>        775-4232. Reasonably priced and quality wares!
DH>===
DH> * TLX v2.00 * Dogs crawl under gates, software crawls under Windoze....


DH>--- TosScan 1.00
DH> * Origin: T.A.B.B. Tampa's largest Fidonet BBS 813-961-6242 (1:377/6)
 Try Gif's galore, it has about 6,000 gifs, they range from cars to
 swimsuits, to space, to animals?!!  Truly a good variety .GIF disc, I
 have it and recommend it! It's also priced pretty good!?
                                Sam Figueroa
                                Sam's Software
                                (615) 728-7383


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 876
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 06/15/93  3:54p
Subj: Re: GEEZ                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> 800 numbers is a little bias :)
 IA> Also they provide 800 numbers to only to reputable 
 IA> companies with good payment history. 

800#s are available to anyone who pays for a telephone line.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 877
  To: THE SHADOWSPAWN                          Date: 06/15/93  4:01p
Subj: CD-ROM Changere                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TS> changers.  I would like
 TS> to purchase one for use with my BBS, but have been unable to find a
 TS> dealer here in Tampa who sells them.  If anyone can provide any
 TS> information on where I might find a drive, prices, 
 TS> etc, I would greatly
 TS> appreciate it.
 
The Pioneer 600A from us is $819 bare and $899 with interface kit.  

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 878
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/15/93  4:02p
Subj: OTHERWARE I IN STOCK: $25               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS>  We are  pleased to announce  special  pricing  for 
 MS> OtherWare 1. This CD-ROM
 MS>  contains more than 600 megabytes of  current 
 MS> Macintosh  and Amiga shareware
 MS>  and public domain software.

Mike.   Send me one COD if you would or I'll swap ya something for it.  I
want to put one on the BBS.  Thanks.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 879
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  4:03p
Subj: Low Low CDROM Prices                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

************** PCJ Computing - Partial CDROM List - 6/15 ***************
 
   ShareWare (** BBS Ready)          Graphics/Sound/Educational (cont.)
AB20 Amiga CD-Rom............15.95  Dinosaur Adventure MPC.........33.95
America's Premier 1993 Sharw.24.95  Education Master or Business...19.95
C Users Group Library........31.45  Encyclopedia of Clip Art.......26.95
California Collection........16.95  Encyclopedia of Sound..........15.95
CD Powerbox.............**...22.95  Fonts #1.......................27.95
Fred Fish On-Line(Amiga)**...49.95  Fontmaster #1-18.95....or #2...27.95
Garbo MSDOS/MAC Shareware....15.45  Gifs Galore....................16.45
Gigabyte Gold...........**...24.95  Jets & Props...................31.95
HamCall (Ham Radio Freq).....44.95  Lovely Ladies or Mother Earth..27.95
Ham Radio (Shareware)........15.95  Midi Music Shop................31.95
Libris Britannica.......**...52.95  Mother of All Clipart (23000)..23.95
Lion Share..............**...27.95  Publish It v2.0 (with Manual)..32.95
Magnum Sight & Sound....**...34.95  Publique or Fresh Arte.........35.95
Mega Audio Visual (AV)..**...23.95  Publishers Dream Disc..........37.95
Megarom 1 or SDN 1......**...19.95  Publishers Paradise............32.95
Megarom 2...............**...23 95  Readers Library (2000 works)...31.95
Monster Disc (2 Cds-92).**...42.95  Reference Library..............27.45
Nightowl Bus. Applications...23.45  Sci-Fi (Pics/Sound/Files).**...28.95
NightOwl 5.0............**...17.95  Space Adventure................33.95
Nightowl 7.0............**...25.95  So Much Screenware (Gifs).**...27.95
Nightowl 8.0............**...27.95  Sound Works (Software).........18.95
Original Shareware 1992.**...17.95  Swimwear & More (SVGA).........29.95
OS/2 Archives (Hobbes).......15.95  Swimwear 1993.............**...28.95
PC Sig #9...............**...17.95  Talking Schoolhouse............36.45
PC Sig #10..............**...24.95  Talking Jungle or Classc.Tale..36.45
PC Sig #11..............**...28.95  Time Almanac 1990-17.95...1991-26.95
PC Sig #12..............**...28.95  VGA Spectrum ..#1-16.95.....#2-24.95
Phoenix v3.0............**...19.95  Wild Places or World View......29.95
Pier Shareware #1.......**...28.45  Women of Venus (Swimsuits).....29.95
Powerpak Gold...........**...24.95  Aircraft Encyclopedia..........36.95
SCI-FI (Pics,Sound).....**...28.45  Amer.Bus.Fone Book #1..$19 #2..27.95
Shareware 1993..........**...25.95  Animals SD Zoo (MPC or DOS)....27.45
ShareWare Overload...........15.95  Audobon Mammals or Birds.......26.95
Shareware Studio #1.....**...21.95  Bible Library (9 Bibles+)......28.95
Shareware Studio #2(NEW)**...25.95  Bibles & Religion..............16.45
Shareware Tiger.........**...29.95  Brit. Family Choice or Select..32.95
Sharew Extravaganza(4 cds)**.43.95  CD Cad v3.7 with manual........31.95
Simtel 20 (Gov't Sharw).**...15.95  Cinnemania.....................57.95
Software Vault #1.......**...24.45  Classic Collection (4 Pak).....53.95
Software Vault #2.(NEW).**...26.45  College Handbook (1992)........18.95
So Much Shareware #1....**...21.95  Complete Bookshop..............15.95
SO Much Shareware #2....**...28.95  Compton's Interactive Encylop..99.95
Sound Sensations.............15.95  Compton's MM Encyclopedia......69.95
Source Code (Unix/Dos).......19.95  Composer Quest.................38.45
Technotools (Programmers)....15.95  Consumer Information Disc......38.95
Top 2000 Shareware...........24.95  Crossword Cracker..............24.45
Windows 1993............**...27.95  Desert Storm...................34.95
Windows - CICA..........**...15.95  Dictionaries & Languages.......15.95
Windoware....................15.95  Elec. Home Libr.(250 books)....36.95
Window Master................19.95  Family Doctor..................29.45
X11R5/GNU CDRom..............24.95  Global Explorer (Delorme)......96.95
       Games/Educational            Great Cities of World 1 or 2...24.95
7th Guest (in stock).........54.95  Great Wonders of the World.....42.95
Adventures of Willy Beamish..29.95  Greatest Books Collection......44.95
Arthur's Teacher Trouble.....28.95  Grolier's Encyl. w/Ref Libr...229.95
Battlechess MPC..............29.95  Grolier Ill. Encyl. v2 (STW)...38.95
BattleChess Enhanced.........34.95  Grolier Ill. Encyl. v5 MPC.....47.95
Beauty & the Beast(Windows)..31.95  Guiness Disc of Records (92)...26.95
Carmen San Diego World Dlx...28.50  Inter. Business/Economic Atlas.24.95
Cd Game Pack v.1-19.95...v.2-26.95  Jazz, a MM history.............69.95
ChessMaster 3000 MPC.........26.45  Languages of the World.........47.95
Crossword Cracker............23.95  Library of the Future 1........54.45
DeathStar Arcade Battles.....15.95  MacMillan Dict for Children....38.95
Games 1993..............**...27.95  Magazine Rack..................23.95
GameMaster (Over 500 Games)..19.95  Mayo Clinic....................34.95
Golden Immortal..............24.95  Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing....27.95
Guy Spy......................48.95  Monarch Notes (Complete set)...63.95
 
Continued to Next Message ..............................................

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 880
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  4:04p
Subj: Low Low CDROM Prices Cont...            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

******* PCJ Computing - Partial CDROM List - 6/15 - Continued **********
 
House of Games...............28.95  National Business Directory....38.95
Kings Quest 5................24.95  Nat. Geographic MPC Mammals....26.95
Just Grandma & Me............41.95  National MM Parks Guide........29.95
Jones in the Fast Lane.......23.45  North American Fax Book........48.95
Loom.........................24.95  Our Solar System(Photos,Data)..15.95
Manhole......................39.95  P.C. Medic (Fix your PC).......32.95
Mixed Up Mother Goose........23.95  Play w/Lang-Englh/Frenc/Span...49.95
Monkey Island (Secrets of)...25.95  Pharmicist Guide to Drugs......29.95
North American Indians.......49.95  Prophone Business 1993.........42.95
PC Gameroom..................28.45  Prophone(3 Set)-49.95..(7 Set)128.95
PC Sig Games.................23.95  Return to the Moon.............37.95
Peter & the Wolf (Windows)...26.95  Roger Ebert Movie Companion....42.95
Secret Weapons of LuftWaffe..25.95  Sports Best on CDRom...........27.95
Sherlock or Shakespeare......16.95  Street Atlas USA (Windows).....87.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1..24.95  Tempra Access Photo CD Softw...31.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2..54.95  TimeTable of Hist./Sci or Art..25.95
SoundWav.....................28.95  Too Many TypeFonts (Laser).....15.95
Space Quest IV...............24.95  ToolWorks Reference Library....26.95
Spirit of Excalibur..........38.45  Total Baseball Encyclopedia....34.95
Stellar 7....................24.95  U.S. Atlas / Automap...........28.95
StoryTime 1 or 2.............24.95  U.S. History...................33.95
Trump Castle-5 casino games..36.95  Visions of Saturn..............24.95
Ultima I - VI................35.95  World Atlas or US/World Atls...28.95
Wing Commander/Secret Missn..34.50  World Atlas or US Atlas MPC....28.95
Wing Commander/Ultima 6......29.95  World Fact Book (CIA)..........24.95
Wing Commander 2 Deluxe......57.95  World Traveler.................15.95
Wing Commander 2/UUnderWrld..59.95  World of Flight or Trains......33.95
Wrath of the Demon...........37.95  World Tour (CIA)...............23.95
   Graphics/Sound/Educational
Aesops Fables................29.95 *************************************
Barney Bear-School or Space..21.95 ** We meet all legit / noncloseout **
Clip Art Galore...........**.31.95 ** prices in this echo. No hidden  **
Clip Art Goliath (Pcx, Tif)..15.95 ** charges for credit cards. Call  **
Clip Art Heaven..............28.95 ** on Adult Titles. Ship Worldwide **
Colossal Cookbook............15.95 *************************************
Danger Hot Stuff 1...........19.95   Voice (24 Hours)    - 615-339-0235
Danger Hot Stuff 2...........24.95   Inquiries/Questions - 615-339-0235
Desktop Bookshop.............27.95   When Ready to Order - 800-547-7817
         CDROM Drives                FaxBack (24 Hours)  - 615-339-0235
Pioneer 600A (Bare).........819.00   Fax (24 Hours)      - 615-479-1047
Pioneer 600A with Kit.......899.00   BBS (14400)         - 615-479-1047
Pioneer 604X (Bare)........1197.00   BBS (HST)           - 615-478-2890
Pioneer 604X with Kit......1297.00  Toshiba 3401 Int. (Bare)......455.00
Mitsumi 350ms Int w/Int. Kit - 195  Toshiba 3401 Ext. (Bare)......550.00

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 881
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/15/93  9:30p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Terry, the Giffy Gold has not shown up for trade on the Physical Therapy
disc, so it is yours in trade for My Private Collection Vol. II if you are
still intersted.  Please mail USPS priority, and echo back mailing
instructions.  I will send out the Physical Therapy disc by USPS Priority as
soonj as I receive mailing instructions by echo.


Michael Benge
4540 washington RD
College Park GA 30349.

Look forward to hearing from you.


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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 882
  To: ALL DEALERS                              Date: 06/15/93  9:32p
Subj: Catalogs                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please forward a copy of your catalog, including all available titles and
topics to the following address.  I am over 21 yrs of age.

Michael Benge
4540 washington rd
college park ga 30349

Thanx in advance.

 * MKRead v1.01 * Have a nice day - unless you've made other plans


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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 883
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/14/93 11:47a
Subj: Cd powerbox disc                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> 650+ megs, around 60/40 1992/1991 files.  Over 6000 files in all.  FullÞ
 MS> FILES.BBS listings, with over 50 file areas.  At 23 smackers, not a badÞ
 MS> CD at all, but if you already have Night Owl 7, you probably don't needÞ
 MS> this one.  Give me a call and we can discuss more!                     Þ
ÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ
Mike-

So how does it compare with Phoenix 3 since its basically the same as NO7? 




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From: RICK SAMUELS                           Number: 884
  To: JIM CUMMINGS                             Date: 06/15/93  1:19p
Subj: U.S. Govt CD-ROMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

14 Jun 93, Jim Cummings writes to All:

 JC> Has anyone seen the CD-ROM put out by the U.S. Superintendent
 JC> of Documents that has the "U.S. Code, containing the general
 JC> and permanent laws of the U.S., in force on January 2, 1991"?
 JC> It costs $ 30.00 and I wondered if it was interesting or falls
 JC> into the curiosity category.

It's ok.  It's two years out of date now, though.  It uses I-Search/Windows
Personal Librarian (not one of my favorite search engines).  The code is one
200+ meg ASCII file!  It's worth 30 bucks if you're interested in Federal
statutes.


Rick Samuels

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 885
  To: KENNETH WATTS                            Date: 06/15/93  9:15p
Subj: Re: CHEAP CDROM DRIVE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KW>     How about a few specs on that drive.  Brand name,seek
KW> time,transfer

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00
2. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Both Drives Include:  90 Day Warranty, External DIP switches, True 50 pin
  SCSI, 350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume, newest ROM
  installed. NO special drivers. 5.25-HH Drive, 64k Buffer. Printed Manual

205-837-5053 -=- Leave Message if not home, it WILL be returned -=-

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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 886
  To: BOB KELLY                                Date: 06/16/93  2:31p
Subj: SONY CD-ROM DRIVES WANTED               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to All, Bob Kelly said:
 BK> I am looking for additional Sony CD-ROM drives for my BBS.

 BK> If they are 40-pin Sony Bus-compatible, and they cost
 BK> around
 BK> $100 each, I will take them off your hands.

 BK> Do you have any that you want to sell?

 BK> Echo here, or call 804-483-1433. Thanks!

 BK> ---
 BK>  * Origin: The File Allocation Table in VA - 804-483-1482
 BK> (1:275/16)
 BK> 6000 
        
  I have one for sale...call me at (615)896-7238.Ask for Scott.If you
have anything to trade I may consider.It has 150k/sec and 360-380ms.
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From: ROB WILLIAMS                           Number: 887
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93  2:38p
Subj: CD-ROM Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Toshiba CR-ROM drive for sale

Model XM-3100B

Internal Unit, no SCSI controller

I have been unable to make this work consistantly with my Amiga, and cannot
determine if the drive is good, or my setup is messed up.  I did see it
work on the system of the guy I bought it from.

$50, no warranty, expressed or written.

If interested contact:  Rob Williams, (309) 688-4276

 * Q-Blue v0.7 *

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 888
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93 12:53p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you are looking for prices on the latest CD-Roms, give us a call or 
post your address in this echo.  We'd be glad to get you a catalog in 
the mail.  Thanks! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: DAVID SYLVESTER                        Number: 889
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93 12:31p
Subj: Wanted...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send CD-ROM Disk catalogs to:

Public Works Inc.
168 Shamrock Dr.
Ventura, Ca
93003

Please include prices as well.

  Slyman

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From: JOSEPH WOLFSON                         Number: 890
  To: RICK ASHWORTH                            Date: 06/15/93 12:36a
Subj: Re: 7th guest trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Rick Ashworth to Mark Smitka <=-

 RA> Hello Mark!

 RA> 06 Jun 93, Mark Smitka writes to Rick Ashworth:

 MS> You sound like just the kind of player Trilobyte had in mind when they
 MS> created T7G.  :-)

 RA> I'm too tired to figger that out, so I'll take that as a compliment!
 <g>
 RA> Actually, I already have T7G, but I'll always try to scavenge extras
 RA> for friends around here!  They're all jealous, and local outlets are
 RA> sold out, except for Babbages for $79!
 RA> Rick

Sears carries it for $59 at all it's stores......

Joseph

Now a question do you need a double speed CD Rom to run it?  I have a 
Sony 535 access speed is .55 and transfer is 150 to bust at 600  average
350.

Thanks.
Joseph


... "What?!? This isn't the Files section?!?"
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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 891
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/15/93  3:53p
Subj: Bb/ppg                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello again, Lee.

It was good to chat with you on the phone today.

The name of the dealer that had the supply of Busty Babes and Powerpak Gold,
and who needs to hear from you about the MWARS_20 thing, is Westland
Computers, of Westland, MI, on the northwest side of Detroit.

I don't know how many of each they have, but there were still several on the
table when I last looked.

Watch your incoming snail-mailbox.  I'll be looking forward to hearing from
you.

Fair winds,

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * Dr. Jack Kavorkian for White House physician!


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From: DON                                    Number: 892
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93  1:28p
Subj: New 4-Disc Shareware Collection.. 69.95!  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
                     ATTENTION CD-ROM SHAREWARE COLLECTORS
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
   Now is the time to purchase Shareware Extravaganza.  This 4-DISC SET
containing 25,000 PROGRAMS can be yours for only $69.95, a savings of $30
from
the price advertised in the Computer Shopper.  This ultimate collection
contains Business, Utilities, Games, and over 300 Megs of Windows Shareware.
To take advantage of this special offer, we need at least 9 orders for the 
set.
To order, send mail to one of the places listed below.  Upon reciept of your
order, we will either send you a bill, or let you know that we did not have
enough orders to fufill your request.  This is a limited time offer for the
largest shareware collection available anywhere!
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
To Order :   BBS (813) 425-0852, Fidonet 1:3635/55, Or Respond Here With
Order
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 893
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/15/93  8:54p
Subj: Re: INFO WANTED!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All Dealers <06-13-93 10:24> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> page 406, there's an ad from an outfit called Romulus Entertainment.

I know these people, let me ask them on a publisher's level--They (one
person) merged with another friend of mine last week to form another company.
So since I know who is behind Rhomulus, I can get an answer. Don't know how
long it will take but I will be back with some info.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 894
  To: BEN NATION                               Date: 06/15/93  6:21p
Subj: nix pix hot pix 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

14 Jun 93 13:21, Ben Nation wrote to All:

 BN> Nix Pix Hot Pix 1, being sold for $75 (new). Limited number of disks.
 BN> Original Hot Pix 1.  call Voice 904-779-7994 or BBS at 904-777-0778.

I was under the impression that you only had one disk, and that I had bought
it.  You said that you were disappointed that it wasn't BBS ready and
intended to return it to your source if I wasn't interested, have you decided
to obtain several more instead?

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 * Origin: Airtight Garage 415-641-0348 San Francisco California US
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From: ANDREA HEARN                           Number: 895
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/15/93 12:45a
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Overheard Doug Miller mumbleing to Jim Lambert about Free CD-Rom
Catalogs!....

 JL>I am now sending out our new CD-Rom catalog from Computer Works.
 JL>Anyone
 JL>wishing to be added to our mailing list, please leave me a
 JL>message with
 JL>your address.  Specify if you are interested in adult titles.
 JL>Thanks!
 
Please add me to your mailing list...

Andrea Hearn
5520 Harrison Street #68
North Highlands, CA 95660

Any other Retailers feel free to send your catalog




... Spock/Data '96.  The logical choice.
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From: BILL HENDERSON                         Number: 896
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 06/15/93  2:07p
Subj: Wanted...7th guest                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

I have a VERY slightly used 7th Guest I'll let go for $40.00 or will trade
for Wing Commander II cdrom. Interested, leave me a note or call me at
704-399-6555.

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 * Origin: ComStar Telecommunications (704-541-1180) Charlotte, NC (1:379/8)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 897
  To: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                         Date: 06/15/93  6:01p
Subj: PIER 2 NOW SHIPPING                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GK>Mike, what's the overlap of Pier 1 and 2- are they just updates? Also, the
sa
GK>question with Owl 7 and 8. Thanks!

Greg,

My comparison shows only .23% duplication of filenames between Pier 1 and
Pier 2.  Realize however that the program I used only registers "identical"
filenames (without extension) as dupes.  Therefore, a file like
"PACMAN10.ZIP" on Pier 1 that is updated to "PACMAN11.ZIP" on Pier 2 would
not show up as a duplicate.  Same goes for the Night Owls.

Later,
.\\ike
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 þ SLMR 2.1a þ Picard and Riker in '96!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 898
  To: KAMAL HAFFAR                             Date: 06/15/93  6:01p
Subj: My cds order!!!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KH>I am really anxious to get those cds, especially the pier2 since I have
KH>promised my bbs users that it was going to be up and running at least a
week
KH>ago.  You can imagine the amount of messages I have received from my users
KH>enquiring about those disks.

Kamal,

As I told you on the phone, I am in the process of clearing this up.  We
sent these by Air Mail to your address in Canada, and the package was
insured.  I've given all the info to the Post Office, and will get a
duplicate shipment off to you as soon as they confirm non-delivery.

As you probably know, shipments to Canada are erratic.  I've had
customers tell me they'll receive CD's in two days, and others tell me
it takes over a month in some cases, so please be patient.

Thanks for the order, and you should be receiving something very soon.

Later,
.\\ike
---
 þ SLMR 2.1a þ I can't steer without my beer.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 899
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  6:01p
Subj: TOP 5 ADULT CD'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************************************************************************
                     TOP 5 BEST-SELLING ADULT CD'S!
**************************************************************************

1. NIGHTWATCH INTERACTIVE - You make the rounds with a beautiful late night
   security guard as you check out the action in her complex.  This is a
   custom-shot, full length interactive movie with over 100 minutes of
   digital video!  Shot from the first person point of view, and viewed on
   a 320 x 240 pixel screen at a realistic 10 frames per second, Nightwatch
   Interactive is the first full length adult movie that puts the user
   directly in the action! (Req. Windows 3.1)  ** $65.00 **

2. BUSTY BABES - A premium quality BBS-ready adult CD packed full of
   fantastic hi-rez GIF images.  Image quality and selective picks are
   what sets Busty aside from the rest.  BBS-ready.  ** $33.00 **

3. GIFFY GOLD - Brand new from San Diego comes the first TRUE "R"-rated
   CD designed with the sysop in mind.  Almost 1000 original, beautiful
   images of scantily-clad models, complete with full FILES.BBS listings
   make GIFFY GOLD the perfect erotic CD for the end-user or sysop who
   has something a little "milder" in mind.  BBS-ready.  ** $39.00 **

4. SWIMWEAR 1993 - 1500 VGA photos of beautiful swimsuit-clad women.
   All GIF's are 640x480 to 1024x768 resolution.  No x-rated material
   here.  BBS-ready.  ** $29.00 **

5. STORM 3-PAK - A classic 3-CD set from the originators of the adult CD.
   There is little or no duplication between Storm 1, 2, and 3, and all
   discs are BBS-compatible, with a full complement of GIFs, animation,
   text files, and adult games.  Price reduced.  BBS-ready.  ** $75.00 **

   ** SPECIAL OFFER:  Buy any two above and take a 5% discount.  Buy
                      any three and deduct 7%.  Buy all five and take 10%
                      off!  (This offer is for a limited time only)

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA þ MC þ AMEX þ DISCOVER þ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs þ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

---
 þ SLMR 2.1a þ E-Mailing frequencies are open Captain.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 900
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  6:01p
Subj: PIER 1 ONLY $29!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

.........................................................................
                        STARVECTOR HAS PIER 1 !!!
.........................................................................

                               PRICE: $29

 By now you've all heard about it, and there isn't much more that can
 be said.  Simply put, this is a definite keeper!  Get one if you haven't
 already done so.

* 5800+ 1992 shareware programs w/ 50% dated after 8/92.
* Fully BBS-compatible, with VERY clean file listings. (lots of attention
  to detail)
* Only .06% internal dupes.
* Less than 1% duplication to Night Owl 7.
* Less than 7% duplication to Night Owl 8.

If you've put this CD on the back burner because of its relatively high
price, then now's your chance!  Get the premium shareware CD that has
received rave reviews from users and editors alike!  Pier1 is arguably
the highest-quality shareware CD to ever be produced, and Starvector is
proud to announce its addition to our lineup!

                  >> ONLY $29.00 WHILE SUPPLIES LAST <<

Special package deals:

        1.  Pier1 w/ Night Owl 7....................$57.00 (1% dupes)
        2.  Pier1 w/ Pier2..........................$65.00 (1% dupes)
        3.  Pier1 w/ Night Owl 8....................$67.00 (7% dupes)
        4.  Pier1 w/ Night Owl 7 and 8..............$87.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA þ MC þ AMEX þ DISCOVER þ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs þ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

---
 þ SLMR 2.1a þ I think my data transmission is low on fluid.

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From: BILL SCHNELL                           Number: 901
  To: JIM HUSBAND                              Date: 06/15/93  1:32p
Subj: MITSUMI QUESTIONS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Jim!

13 Jun 93 18:11, Jim Husband wrote to All:

 JH>     I have a Mitsumi LU005S, and hope someone can help with several
 JH> questions.

I'll give it a shot.

 JH>     1) Does anyone know if the OS2 2.1 distributed on CD-ROM will
 JH> install using the Mitsumi. I've seen several (beta) OS2 drivers,
 JH> but am unsure about 2.1 and installation requirements.

 JH>     2) What is the latest Mitsumi driver (dates &/or version)?

I've sucessfully installed the 2.1 beta, and anticipate no troubles with the
GA 2.1. You simply edit the config.sys on the 2 boot disks you make to
install the mitsumi driver. Piece of cake. Check with your local Fernwood
distribution site for the latest drivers. I'm using the Noller Driver from
Germany, and it works flawlessly!

 JH>     4) I added a Sound Galaxy NX board, that will also serve as a
 JH> controller for the CD. However, I have only been able to get the
 JH> software polling driver (supplied with CD, not Sound board) to work
 JH> with it. The Sound Galaxy has two CD drivers. The one indicated for
 JH> a Mitsumi drive displays "Panasonic" when it loads, and then fails.
 JH> I then tried the other driver (thinking that the doc was simply
 JH> wrong), and got no further.

Sorry, no help here.

Bill

--- GoldED/2 2.41.B0108+
 * Origin: Tulsa Gas & Electric BBS - We Got What It Takes (1:170/200)
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From: MAX HILL                               Number: 902
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93 10:00a
Subj: NEW CD-ROM SHAREWARE                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       BIG SKY CD-ROM     <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
          The downloader's ROM      OVER 7000 + files
.................................................................
            ORDER LINE  Voice 1-406-586-8344       > 8:00 A.M.
              ORDER LINE  FAX   1-406-586-3774     > 7:00 P.M.
               * We Pay shipping 2nd day UPS       > MST
                  * MasterCard, VISA, COD company check

PCBoard users will be pleasantly surprised to find that we have
included special tools that will allow them to install BigSky
ROM in just a few minutes -- not hours.
The PCBoard IDX file was created before the Files.BBS and
Descript.ion files were laid down on the ROM.
This software was designed and developed by Martin Productions.
Over 7,000 files using PKWARE, Inc.'s PKZIP (R) 2.04g DeflatX
MAXIMUM compression are on this ROM, including .GIF, .WAV, .ICO,
and .BMP's.  Where there were hundreds of small icon files, we
combined them into downloadable 20K files, so there is no inflated
file count on this ROM (just so you'll buy the product).
All files are True Date Stamped, based on largest file in the
archive; there's no false advertising here.  If you're a SysOp,
we know you care about your users and don't want them thinking
that a file just came out when, in fact, it is a year old.  We
do have older files on our ROM, but if -- and only if -- we
feel it is something useful or interesting.
NO MISSING FILES OR WASTED TIME!
All archive files were scanned with McAfee Associates 5/5/93
SCAN 9.15 V104, which looks for 2,049 different viruses and their
variants.
All archives have a FILE_ID.DIZ to identify them.  If one wasn't
present, we added it.
Almost no data files are on this ROM.  We expect you to find
other sources for collections of data-type ROM's, and you can look
forward to BigSky #2's being almost all unique digitized images
and files.
We've listened to you on FidoNet; we monitor the Echos:  CD-ROM,
CD-ROM sales, VIRUS info, and DIRTY_DOZEN.  We've taken the time
to find and remove any HACK Report Files, illegal commercial
programs, programs that won't run right out of the ZIP file, and
anything else we've heard about.  Special thanks to the creators
of and contributors to the Hack Report.
Also, since there are inevitably problems with file descriptions,
every BigSky ROM purchaser who sends in the registration card
will be given access to PC-Montana's Special File Description
Update Area -- FREE -- to download all new updates as they become
available.
Files listed in DIR files but missing from Disk -- NONE!
Duplicate files found in Disk subdirectories -- NONE!
Duplicate file names across the whole ROM -- NONE!
Files found on Disk but missing from DIR files -- NONE!
Duplicate files found in DIR files -- NONE!
Files.BBS and Directory Tree have been set up for MOST BBS's.
Each subdirectory will have a FILES.BBS detailed description
list for operators of WildCat BBS's to load the file descriptions
quickly from CD-ROM to their hard disk database.
Cost $48.00  We think you'll be happy with this ROM purchase.  We
have checked the stats to see what users want.  This is TRULY the
Downloader's ROM.


 * OLX 2.2 * Clinton orders Typewriters to update Whitehouse! sheesh!
--- FidoPCB v1.3 [ff105/b]
 * Origin: PC-Montana BBS - Manhattan, MT (406)-284-3120 [1:3400/26]
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From: MAX HILL                               Number: 903
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  7:28p
Subj: BIG SKY ROM NOW SHIPPING                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                      BIG SKY ROM
         ********* THE DOWNLOADERS ROM *********


 7024 Archives, 664,860,429 bytes of downloadable archives,
 repackaged or compressed for the first time including .GIF,
 .WAV, .ICO, and .BMP files.

 All archive files use PKWARE, Inc.'s PKZIP (R) 2.04g MAXIMUM
 compression DeflatX algorithm.  With special recognition to
 Phil Katz for Ver 2 of PkZIP making this possible.

 All archive files were scanned with McAfee Associates 5/5/93
 SCAN 9.15 V104, which looks for 2,049 different viruses and
 their variants.

 All archives have a FILE_ID.DIZ to identify them.  If one wasn't
 present, we added it, AGAIN EVERY ARCHIVE HAS an archive
 description your downloaders are going to love this feature!

 All archives are True Date stamped based on the largest file.

 All archives compared to the lastest HACK Report lists, to remove
 any illegal, commercial or hacked programs on our ROM.  Special
 thanks to the creators of and contributors to the Hack Report.

 No unnessasary files or subdirectorys clutering up this ROM.

 Never before released Windows OuterWare Wallpaper files featuring
 4UP images of the Geothermal Wonders of Yellowstone National Park.

 4DOS Users - All subdirectories and files have FILE DESCRIPTIONS!!


 WildCat BBS Users All Download Directories have FILES.BBS lists!!!

 PCBoard BBS Sysops - Our SETMEUP Program builds your whole
 subdirectory!

 Files listed in DIR files but missing from Disk -- NONE!
 Duplicate files found in Disk subdirectories    -- NONE!
 Files found on Disk but missing from DIR files  -- NONE!
 Duplicate files found in DIR files              -- NONE!
 Duplicate file names across the whole ROM       -- NONE!


 If your a single rom BBS or running a six pack THIS rom will ease
 your apprenhensions about which rom your users will download from.
 38 file areas simply structured so that even the novice user will
 feel comfortable.
 Our stats chose the file areas, and from a cross section of users
 age 15 to 46, both professional and home users, the concept of the
 downloaders ROM emerged.

                   THE $48.00 ALTERNATIVE

   SALES AND PRODUCT SUPPORT 1-406-586-8344 VOICE
   SALES - FAX 1-406-586-3774  VISA & MASTERCARD welcome
                             C.O.D. COMPANY CHECK  OK
--- FidoPCB v1.3 [ff105/b]
 * Origin: PC-Montana BBS - Manhattan, MT (406)-284-3120 [1:3400/26]
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From: BEN NATION                             Number: 904
  To: MARC FONTENOT                            Date: 06/16/93 10:14a
Subj: items for sale or trade...              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Yes I still have it, call 904-779-7994, if you want it.


--- Maximus 2.01wb
 * Origin: PayPhone Junction BBS, Jacksonville, Fl. (1:112/6)
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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 905
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 06/13/93  9:34a
Subj: Hitachi CDROM drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Well what would 12 drives and 3 cards cost?

Seems like.... about 1400 dollars! Lots less than 2 of the 6 pack units,
and if one broke, its LOTS cheaper to fix and/or replace. The 6-pack
drives are nice, but the cost throws them out of the ball park!
Later!
Matt


--- WM v2.07/92-0380
 * Origin: MEG*A*BITE BBS of Essexville, MI  (517) 892-5079 (1:239/675)
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 906
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 06/17/93  6:59a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: 4264
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->                                           $26 Bibles & Religion
->                           $13 Britannica Select
->           $39 Busty Babes
-> Carmen San Diego                                          $27 CD Game

Hey Patrick...

Your line length is too long.  Keep in mind that *spaces* at the end of
a line can cause the same thing to happen.  Here's a Qbasic program that
will strip spaces from the right hand side:

OPEN "c:\bbs_ad.txt" for INPUT as #1
OPEN "c:\new_ad.txt" for OUTPUT as #2
DO
    LINE INPUT #1,a$
    new_a$=RTRIM$(a$)
    print #2,new_a$
LOOP UNTIL EOF(1)
CLOSE

Hope this helps...

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 907
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/17/93  7:08a
Subj: Florida Lion's Den In                   Refer: 4313
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> How come they never really got too upset about the people that used t
-> sell shareware floppy disks.....these guys were selling a disk they
-> paid less than a $.25 for at prices from $1.50 to $5.00 per disk.  I
-> would think that these guys were making more given the capital
-> investment required.
->
-> I believe that the Shareware CD-ROM disks, since they have thousands
-> of programs on them, have a broader appeal to the general public than
-> any one persons shareware program.....therefore generating more sales
-> than any individual shareware program.  If the programmers want to
-> capture this market for themselves.....Maybe they should write a
-> program that can do EVERYTHING.

Your 2nd paragraph answers your first, i.e. too much money is being
made - which has changed the rules.

tim
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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 908
  To: 4000                                     Date: 06/17/93  4:23p
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: 1344
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

NOTE: This message was originally addressed to ALL
      and was forwarded to you by TERESA SEMBRAT
                          --------------------
                         The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 1-800-289-1ROM  FAX: (314) 521-7453
               We have the following Specials this week:

  PHOENIX 3.0....$19.95                 VGA SPECTRUM #2......$24.95
  NIGHTOWL 7.0...$29.95                 PC-SIG Games.........$23.95
  NIGHTOWL 8.0...$49.95                 WINDOWS 1993.........$29.95
  POWERPAK.......$19.95                 THE ANIMALS......DOS $29.95
  CDPOWERBOX.....$29.95                                  WIN $29.95
  MAMMALS........$30.95                 PROPHONE  3 DISK.....$89.00
                                                  7 DISK....$209.00
  GROLIERS NEW! ENCYCLOPEDIA...WIN: $69 ** SPECIAL **
                               DOS  $69 ** SPECIAL **

                       ** PIER 1 **...$45.00
               We will not be undersold on this disk!
                      Find it cheaper?  Call us!


                    ** MONSTER DISK 2 DISK SET **
                    ALL 1992 AND 1993 SHAREWARE
               BBS COMPATIBLE WITH VIRTUALLY EVERY BBS
                           ** $45.00 **
               We will not be undersold on this disk!
                     Find it cheaper?  Call us!

            Buy any disk above and receive PHOENIX 3.0 $6.95
              Buy A Caddie for $2.99 with any Disk Purchase
                     Please add $5.00 for shipping
*********************************************************************
               All prices in effect thru 4/10/93
   VISA          1 - 8 0 0 - 2 8 9 - 1 R O M        MASTERCARD
              ---- 100s of Titles Available ----



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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 909
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/17/93  8:56p
Subj: CD Stats                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Here's some stuff from this month's CD-ROM World magazine (their phone
number is 203-226-6967):

The American CD ROM market is 4 times larger than Europe & 3 times
larger than Asia.

4% of existing PC's have CD's installed.

The PC installed base is growing at 10% per year. The CD installed base
is growing at a rate of 50% per year.

The North American sales tally for CD ROM titles was 1.2 billion in 1992
& is expected to be 1.7 in 1993... Holy smokes.

The number of CD ROM drives manufactured increased by 160% from 1991 to
1992.

By the end of 1993, it's estimated that there will be 5.8 million
installed CD ROM players.

tim
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 910
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/15/93 11:59p
Subj: 4sale or trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SP> LOOM---CD-ROM game--real voices and cool music 
SP> Make an offer on all or part of items.I might except trade.If 
 
A dealer on this echo offers it for $25 new. I'll give you $15 shipped 
any way you like. 
 
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From: KEVIN DEW                              Number: 911
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  3:51p
Subj: The Seventh Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        I just got my first CD-Rom drive, but in order to afford it, I
could not recieve any CD's as a "GROUP" rate... I've borowed the
Sherlock CD, and loved it, and would love even more to get The Seventh
Guest as my first CD. With all the people that sell CD's out there, I
could not possibly call everyone and get the current price. If all you
dealers out there could E-mail me your price, I will buy the cheapest
offer I get. Any offers would be appriciated..

Kevin Dew

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From: PAUL HAMMERSCHMIDT                     Number: 912
  To: JIM SHARRER                              Date: 06/16/93  3:09a
Subj: Re: Problem with a cd                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I overheard Jim Sharrer saying to Paul Hammerschmidt something about
Problem with a cd

Hi Jim Sharrer!


 JS> Its dirty.

Thanks Jim... I was kinda sure that's what the problem was. Where did you get
yours cleaned "invasively"???

Thanks,
Paul 
... What?!?  DOSSHELL *isn't* supposed to be a joke?
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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 913
  To: TODD MCNOLDY                             Date: 06/16/93 11:13a
Subj: Looking for cd's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi todd, %10-20 is to much duplaction percent... i suggest you should get
Share Ware Studio II (2) and/or Pier2, they have little or none duplaction
between them.... and they are very asdasdfafasdasdfasssssssasdfasdfsdfs


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From: DANG NGUYEN                            Number: 914
  To: TORSTEN DROSTE                           Date: 06/16/93 10:55a
Subj: Mitsumi Os/2 Driver                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TD>                   totronik Torsten Droste
  >                   Hauptstaetterstr. 35
  >                   DW-7000 Stuttgart 1     (D-70173 Stuttgart after
July,1st
  >                   Germany

TD>                   Phone: 49-711-244272
  >                   Fax:   49-711-6406815
  >                   CIS: 100064,1346
  >                   FIDO: 2:244/40.17

Is there a way I can get the mailing list of the people who order from
you?  I am currently in the process of finding a market for an OS/2
shareware CDROM.
Thank you
Dang
12851 Sungrove
Garden Grove, cA 92640

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 915
  To: DON RIEB                                 Date: 06/16/93  7:06a
Subj: CDROM changer software                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DR>BBS and need somthing that will put files in to a Qeuiee becouse I have 4 
  >nodes and 6 disc's run from PonyRom and it would be nice to only alow one 
  >file 
  >to be copied at a time instead of it doing part of a file then part of the

  >next file and so on, takes to long switching disc's. 
 
 sounds like you could use a copy of EZrom (if you're running WildCat or 
any other DOOR.SYS bbs), or SFrom (if you're using spitfire's callers 
info files). 
 
 Both romdoors are essentially the same...  You can have up to 100 disks 
online, it can be run on nonstandard ports, on any nodes, etc.  You make 
a dir for each cdrom disk and copy text listings of any name in (ex 
files.bbs or sffiles.bbs).  Just make the main menu listing of disks and 
individual cdrom menu of areas, and after editing the areas paths you 
should be ready to go.  It also has file tagging (up to 20 files), 
internal "All-DSZ supported protocols", and the feature most useful to 
you would probably be the lockfile.  Since you can have it read the 
descriptions/tag files right off of the hard drive's text listings, the 
cdrom is only active when copying to the hard drive before downloads. 
You can configure it to make a lockfile that exists only when the drive 
is being accessed, and if another node tries to access it while the 
lockfile is there, it simply gives the caller "try back in a minute or 
two please" message. 
 Mike Robinson is the author, and the current versions of each are v1.20 
 
 It can be FREQ'ed (16.8dual) at 1:2601/566 under the name of 
SFROM120.ZIP or EZROM120.ZIP. 
 The author's board also has the same version for Freq.. I'd tell you 
his node # if I could find that little scrap of paper now <grin>. 
 
        Good luck with your drive.   BTW do you have Pier 2 yet? 
anything worthwhile for bbs use? 
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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 916
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 06/15/93  7:14a
Subj: MSCDEX PROBLEM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Check Jim; I'm getting good at changeing SETVER.
73's

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From: BRAD MARSH                             Number: 917
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  3:43p
Subj: Sony Drivers                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Any one have the latest CD drivers for the Sonys

Need some for some friends having problems



... Sit down, you're rocking the boat!
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From: JIM HUSBAND                            Number: 918
  To: CARLOS AVELLANET                         Date: 06/16/93  8:48p
Subj: MITSUMI QUESTIONS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

|CA>      No it does not. You can only install OS/2 2.1 direct from CD-ROM t|
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+

    Carlos,
    Thanks for the information. I was hoping for a "Yes", but an
accurate answer is almost as good ;-)

                                                            Jim

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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 919
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/15/93 10:19p
Subj: Various                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Howdy Mike,

13 Jun 93, Mike Shannon writes to Kirk Rawnsley:

 KR>> Could you please give me info on the following titles?
 KR>> -Readers library
 KR>> -Reference library
 KR>> -Shakespear
 KR>> -Electronic Home Library
 KR>> -Languages of the World
 KR>> -Library of the Future #1
 KR>> -World Atlas MPC

 MS> Kirk,

 MS> In the interest of saving space here, give me a call, and I'll run down
 MS> as many as you want, or give me your address, and I can send you one of
 MS> our catalogs with descriptions!

Kirk Rawnsley
5128 Grove Hill Rd. SW
Calgary Alberta
T3E 4G6
          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: JACK BROWN                             Number: 920
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/16/93  9:39a
Subj: catalogs                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please, folks - make certain you address messages to the person/people
you actually want your messages to go to.  Over the past several weeks
people have sent a dozen or more messages to me asking me to send them
a CD-ROM catalog.  I am _NOT_ a CD-ROM vendor and never have been.  I
posted a message or two _to_ vendors asking for catalogs, and evidently
a dozen or more of you have replied to _my_ message likewise asking for
catalogs - but without changing the addressee to reflect the desired
vendor instead of me.  'Nuff said, I hope.


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From: WADE NORTON                            Number: 921
  To: MIKE PETRO                               Date: 06/16/93  1:39p
Subj: CLIPART CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Mike!

10 Jun 93, Mike Petro writes to All:

 MP> Can anyone recommend some GOOD clipart cd's? I am looking for 300 dpi
 MP> or better in pcx format to use in DTP. I have seen several on this
 MP> echo but I am fearful of paying for another CLIPART GOLIATH which had
 MP> about 50% in 75 DPI which i can't use.  Also how much duplication is
 MP> there on the new cd's that are out. If i buy 6 cd's will I just be
 MP> duplicating what I already have? Please send me any information you
 MP> might have and a price list. Good descriptions encourage me to buy
 MP> whereas no descriptions leave me with a lot of questions.

Mike,  I can't add much to your quest.  However, I too was dissapointed with
Clipart Goliath.  I recently purchased Enclyclopedia of Clipart "PCX
Potpourri" and it isn't much better.  To get the 300 DPI it appears we are
going to have to pay for it.

Wade

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From: HOWARD ONEIL                           Number: 922
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/16/93  5:19p
Subj: Trades Wanted                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The following items are for TRADE towards other computer related items.

ITEM 1 : Omega 120,000 Volt Stun Gun  (In Box, Excellent Condition).

        FEATURES : Seperate On/Off Switch for safety.
                   Uses 2-9 Volt Alkaline or Rechargable Batteries.
                   Has Belt Clip and will disable 300 pound person
                   in less than 6 seconds. "To see EXACTLY what
                   this looks like see Batman Returns (the Movie)
                             Not a cheapie, Cost $100.00

ITEM 2 : Akai Integrated Stereo Amp  (Good Condition & works like new).

        FEATURES : Dual Tape inputs, magnetic phono & tuner inputs.
                   Subsonic Filters and has 45 Watts RMS per channel.

                   GREAT FOR A PERSON OFF TO COLLEGE

ITEM 3 : Mitsubshi 1.2 Meg 5 1/4" floppy. (Excellent Condition, 
                   Pulled from working system). GRAY

ITEM 4 : VLSI Mini 80286 Motherboard w/512k. (Good condition,
                   No Documentation, w/EMS software).

        FEATURES : Phoenix Bios & expandable to 4 megs on board,
                   using Sipp or Dram.
                   Original costs $100.00

ITEM 5 : DAEWOO 2 head VCS Video Tape recorder with remote.

        FEATURES : Remote programming, Day, Date, Time & Speed.
                   All features programable from remote or unit.
                   Excellent condition.  Cost $189.00

I would like to trade these items individually or together for the following.

Looking for : 1) Working Dot Matrix Printer.  Wide carriage.

              2) 80 Meg MFM Hard Drive (Seagate 4096) to 120 meg.
                 or IDE w/controller, or comparable drive.

              3) VGA Color or Monochrome Monitor. W/ minimum of
                 800 x 600 resolution.

              4) Mitsumi or other Internal or External CD ROM drive.

All items I've listed are in GOOD to EXCELLENT condition and those offered in
trade should be in same and guarenteed against D.O.A. or make cash offers.


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From: DEAN SCOTT                             Number: 923
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/93  2:12a
Subj: CD Trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a Shareware Overload CD Rom I would like to trade for a adult
title cd. If anyone is interested leave me feedback.

Dean Scott

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From: ADRIAN PENDELL                         Number: 924
  To: ROGER COLLINS                            Date: 06/16/93  4:32p
Subj: Video..                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       Thanks for the tip! That is indeed VERY helpful, considering the card
I was going to purchase was the exact card you mentioned ( Diamond Stealth..)
Is it at all possible that your performance problem was with the CD-Rom (
poor access speed, transfer rate, etc.) and not the video? I just can't
imagine having such a fast machine, good video card, and even a semi-decenct
CD-ROM and not being able to run ANY game well enough...anyway, thanks again
for the
tip..

BTW: At the risk of having to move this discussion to a different echo...what
video card would you reccomend?


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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 925
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  7:02a
Subj: CD WinBox                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Damar Enterprises announces the introduction of a NEW 
Windows-based Shareware CD-ROM: 
 
               *#############*    Available from better 
               #  CD WinBox  #    dealers in this echo! 
               *#############* 
 
This is a GREAT addition to folks that already own our first 
release, the CD PowerBox.  If you're into Windows - the 
WinBox is for you.  Here are the disk's stats: 
 
*    Approximately 6,000 files. 
*    Over 30% are TRULY dated 1993! 
*    Over 620 MegaBytes of files, icons, articles, and 
     bitmaps. 
*    40 Files areas each with a multi-line file description 
     in the FILES.BBS format. 
*    SFFILES.BBS and MASTER.DIR supported as well! 
*    Use the true Windows-based Graphical User Interface for 
     quick file location and installation! 
*    Huge amounts of applications (this disk is not just a 
     collection of icons and graphics!) 
 
#    AREA NAME:                    #    AREA NAME: 
------------------------------     ---------------------------- 
1    New & Journals                21   Networking 
2    Windows NT                    22   Windows for Workgroups 
3    Financial & Investment        23   Communications A-M 
4    Printer Utils/Drivers         24   Communications N-Z 
5    Games A-M                     25   Icons Galore A-G 
6    Games N-Z                     26   Icons Galore H-P 
7    Personal Info. Managers       27   Icons Galore Q-Z 
8    Multimedia - Video            28   Icon Apps/Utils 
9    Multimedia - Sound A-M        29   Screen Savers 
10   Multimedia - Sound N-Z        30   Fonts - ATM Type A-M 
11   Developers Files              31   Fonts - ATM Type N-Z 
12   Visual Basic A-M              32   Fonts - TrueType A-M 
13   Visual Basic N-Z              33   Fonts - TrueType N-Z 
14   Word for Windows              34   Fonts - Apps/Utils 
15   Other Word Processors         35   Educational 
16   Graphics - Apps/Utils         36   Spreadsheet Related 
17   Graphics - BMP/RLE A-M        37   Database 
18   Graphics - BMP/RLE N-Z        38   Apps A-J 
19   Graphics - PCX A-M            39   Apps K-S 
20   Graphics - PCX N-Z            40   Apps T-Z 
 
       Call your favorite dealer for competitive prices! 
 
 
 * OLX 2.1 TD * The NEGOTIATOR has SPOKEN! (510)830-5043 1:161/205 
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 926
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  7:07a
Subj: CD WinBox User Manual                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Damar Enterprises has just released a professionally bound USER MANUAL to its

distributors and dealers.  This USER MANUAL covers all the file descriptions 
found on the BRAND NEW CD WinBox.  A complete FILE INDEX allows you quick 
reference.  Each chapter covers one area on the disk.  The manual is GREAT
for 
the end user or the retailer (the multi-color cover is a real attention
getter 
for your customers!) 
 
Contact your favorite dealer to find out how to get the USER MANUAL for the 
HOTTEST all shareware WINDOWS CD-ROM, the CD WinBox! 
 
Another great product from the guys at Damar Enterprises... 
 
Voice 510-866-6141 
Fax   510-866-6141 
BBS   510-830-5043 
 
 
 * OLX 2.1 TD * The NEGOTIATOR has SPOKEN! (510)830-5043 1:161/205 
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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 927
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/16/93  5:54p
Subj: CDROM Drive                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Both Drives Include:  90 Day Warranty, External DIP switches, True 50 pin
  SCSI, 350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume, newest ROM
  installed.  Diagnostic/cleaning done by service center.  NO special
  drivers required.  5.25 - Half Height Drive. 64k Buffer and manual.

205-837-5053 -=- Leave Message if not home, it WILL be returned -=-



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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 928
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 06/17/93  2:07p
Subj: 4sale or trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CS> SP> LOOM---CD-ROM game--real voices and cool music 
 CS> SP> Make an offer on all or part of items.I might except trade.If 
 CS>  
 CS> A dealer on this echo offers it for $25 new. I'll give you
 CS> $15 shipped 
 CS> any way you like. 
 CS>  
 CS> --- FreeMail 1.07b
 CS>  * Origin: The Outer-Limits (618) 439-9629 * HST/V32 *
 CS> (1:2290/70)
        
   Let me see if I can sell it at a computer show for more.If not,I'll post
you back Sunday.
                                     Scott
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 929
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/16/93  9:55a
Subj: Re: INFO WANTED!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All Dealers <06-13-93 10:24> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> page 406, there's an ad from an outfit called Romulus Entertainment.
BJ>> Among the adult-oriented CDs they're offering is a new product called
BJ>> "The Interactive Adult Movie Almanac". Their 800 number sales line
BJ>> couldn't tell me squat about the disk and, not being a dealer....

OK, got the scoop for you--The almanac is like the Adam Film Guide whereby it
cross references all the adult VIDEO movie with the actresses bio's etc. It
also provides reviews of 700+ adult video's, and acts as an information
source encyclopedia of sorts--This reference will be available on CD-ROM in
windows format for sale around July 31st. The mac version is available now.

Hope this helps,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: NEIL ALLEN                             Number: 930
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/16/93  5:57p
Subj: Low Low CDROM Prices Con                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Doug,

        Could you list your address where to send for CD's and the proper
amount for Shipping & Handling to Canada?
        Do you have any adult Interactive software on cd's?

thanks


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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 931
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/16/93  8:00a
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

June Special:  Low prices on these CD-ROMs!

Shareware Studio Volume II       $26.95 U.S. $35.00 Cdn
Shareware Studio Volume I        $19.95 U.S. $25.00 Cdn
SoundWAV Volume I                $19.95 U.S. $25.00 Cdn

All applicable taxes included. Please add $4 U.S. $5 Cdn S/H
VISA/Mastercard/Cheque/M.O. Accepted. Prices effective until
June 30, 1993.

Contact:  Michellea Sorensen  at  306-789-4654
          6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk. (Canada), S4N 4G7



 -- "High quality, fast, friendly service at no extra charge."

 -- "Anyone can match a price, but not just anyone can make
     it a good value!"
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From: REN JUST                               Number: 932
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/16/93  6:42a
Subj: LINUX CD-ROM For Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
LINUX AND INTERNET FILES ON CD-ROM
  
LINUX, a UNIX operating system workalike now available
on CD-ROM.  Includes GNU C/C++ compiler, X-Windows,
TCP/IP, sound card support and much more.  Only $49.95.
 
Also CD-ROMs available with source code and applications
from internet servers for DOS, UNIX, Amiga, C and Mac.
Call or write for listing.
 
To receive your LINUX CD-ROM call and order with your
charge card
 
or send $49.95 + $3.00 S/H (CA residents add 7.50% tax) to:
 
Just Computers!
PO Box 751414
Petaluma  CA 94975-1414
  
Voice 707-769-1648
FAX   707-765-2447
 
Internet: uonline@infoserv.com OR rjust@delphi.com
 
Visa and MasterCard gladly accepted.
 

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 933
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/16/93  5:56p
Subj: CDROM PRICES PART 2                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

15 Jun 93 03:05, Boris Osadciw wrote to All:

 BO> Sherlock Holmes Detective #1
 BO> Sherlock Holmes Detective #3

What happened to Sherlock Holmes #2?  No one seems to carry it.

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From: JERRY MASON                            Number: 934
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/16/93  1:27a
Subj: June cd prices 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike, Can you add my name to your mailing list please Jerry Mason 5111
Belcamp Lane Charlotte, NC 28215


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From: YANGKUN ZHANG                          Number: 935
  To: DANNY TONG                               Date: 06/12/93 10:07a
Subj: The 7th guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DT>PJ> Is it a shareWare cd? No.  But you can buy it for under $50.

Where from?
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From: THE SISTER                             Number: 936
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/16/93 11:26a
Subj: FAO Series                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Could anyone who has the FAO series send me a Catalog. Also if you 
could send me a place to Freq'any sample directory Listung for them. I am
most intrested in FAO GOLD. If you are the author of FAO GOld could you 
please dispell the rumors that I heard the the FAO Gold disk is 75-85% BBS 
ADS, as well has several poor qualtiy photos. I have heard this for another
posted here in the nets. Others have said that he was full of S*#T. Anyone
who can offer any information please doo. I would be most appreciative.


                                        Joannine Gesualdo

... The wages of sin depend on what union you belong to.
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From: ADAM GILBERT                           Number: 937
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/16/93  3:18p
Subj: 4sale or trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Will you take a trade on the Sony CD-ROM drive?  IIs it internal or external?
 It doesn't really matter to me whether it is internal or external, I am just
curious.  I will give you 2 hard drives for it.
Either a Kyocera 42mb IDE and a Kyocera 20mb MFM, or a Kyocera 42mb IDE and a
Seagate 20mb MFM.
Please give me a call at:
BBS: (515)221-9859 24hrs
VOICE: (515)221-9840 9am-10pm

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 938
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/17/93 12:30a
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SP>  Is the Music Shop program on CD? If not I'm interested.

Scott,

Do you mean "MIDI MUSIC SHOP"?  If so, I'm only aware of the CD version.
We have them in stock at $32.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 939
  To: MIKE PETRO                               Date: 06/17/93 12:30a
Subj: CLIPART CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MP>Can anyone recommend some GOOD clipart cd's? I am looking for 300 dpi or
MP>better in pcx format to use in DTP. I have seen several on this echo but

Mike,

There are 3 right now which are very good:  Lee's "PCX POTPOURRI" which
is all 300-600 dpi @ $28, "CLIPART HEAVEN" which is all 300+ dpi @ $29,
and "PUBLIQUE ART" which is ALL 600 dpi @ $36.  Give me a
ring anytime and I'll be glad to set you up with one, or answer any
further questions.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 940
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 06/17/93 12:30a
Subj: Pier II                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JH>Who has the best price on Pier II?
JH>I have seen it advertised for $45.00, Thats too much for a shareware rom.
I

Joe,

You'll always pay a little more for the best.  You just can't get a
Ferrari for the price of a Yugo. 8)

Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 941
  To: TYLER A. WUNDER                          Date: 06/17/93 12:30a
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 1/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TAW>     Well, obviously I've changed my mind and realized that the phone
number
TAW>for placing orders as well as making inquiries (I guess I wasn't thinking
at
TAW>in the morning when I sent that one to you). Please disregard the last
messa

Tyler,

Thanks very much for the order.  I have some important info for you.
Give me a call as soon as you can.

Later,
.\\ike    509-457-2892

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 942
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/17/93 12:30a
Subj: NEW CD'S FOR JUNE!!!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 THE NEW CD'S KEEP POURIN' IN AT STARVECTOR!
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 New stuff for June:

 COOKBOOK HEAVEN - 20,000+ recipes, cookbooks, diet programs, etc.....29.00
 DIGITAL DREAMS - 660mb of ORIGINAL adult GIF scans! No BBS ads.......29.00
 HOT PIX 5 - The newest from Windy City. 600+mb GIF's. BBS ready......34.50
 JOKES & PRANKS - Loads of practical jokes, gags, & trick software....19.00
 KODAK PHOTO CD - Photo CD Access software w/ sample photos...........27.50
 LEARNING ADVENTURE - Educational software & games for ages 5 - 12....19.00
 MONSTER MEDIA '93 - 420mb of PURE 93 shareware! No dupes. w/ manual..33.00
 NIGHTWATCH INTERACTIVE - Full-motion adult video. You control plot...65.00
 PIER 2 - Simply the best shareware CD out! See for yourself!.........45.00
 PORKWARE II - Newest adult release w/ 600+mb of great .GIF's.........37.00
 POWERPAK 3.0 - Classic shareware CD with no "surprise" inside........28.00
 PRECISION MAPPING - Like Street Atlas only better! Runs under DOS....88.00
 QRZ HAM RADIO - 3/93 US callsign database w/ 100's of Ham programs...19.00
 SCI-FI - BBS-ready CD w/ Science fiction games, graphics, etc........28.50
 SEEDY ROM MOVIE DISC - Full-motion video adult CD w/ film clips......45.00
 SHAREWARE STUDIO 2 - Brand new disc. No dupes to #1. BBS-ready.......27.00
 SOFTWARE VAULT 2 - 630+mb of ALL 1993 SHAREWARE! Outstanding CD!.....29.00
 SOUND EFFECTS LIBRARY - Loads of fun and interesting sound FX........34.00
 WORLD TRAVELER - Great collection of world photos....................18.00
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 Special Offer #1:  Buy any 5 titles above and deduct 5%
 Special Offer #2:  600mb shareware CD or Windows Game CD only $6 w/ purch.
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 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 943
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/17/93 12:30a
Subj: 600+MB ALL-93 CD IS HERE!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
 |            THE ONLY 600+mb ALL-1993 SHAREWARE CD IS HERE!              |
 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+

                And the price? . . . . . . . . . $29.00!

 SOFTWARE VAULT 2 * SOFTWARE VAULT 2 * SOFTWARE VAULT 2 * SOFTWARE VAULT 2

 Finally!  A fully BBS-ready shareware CD packed FULL of ONLY 1993 files!
 Software Vault 2 has arrived, and it DOES DELIVER!  This is one of the
 most exciting shareware CD's to come along in a while, so get 'em while
 they're hot!

 * FILES.BBS in each directory
 * Over 50 different software categories, each w/ separate directory
 * Built-in ROMDOOR software for virtually any BBS system.
 * ALL files dated between 1/1/93 and 5/19/93
 * No duplicaton to release 1
 * Built-in multimedia demo can be modified w/ your company name
 * Features "top hits" section w/ most popular programs for Spring '93

 In stock, ready for immediate delivery.............................$29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

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From: DAN WAGNER                             Number: 944
  To: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                        Date: 06/13/93  2:31p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST.                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for your help, Ive actually only started playing the game now myself.
I find it absoulutely brilliant. I'll tell my friend your advice and
hopefully he'll be able to figure it out.

Regards
Dan Wagner

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From: DAN WAGNER                             Number: 945
  To: JOSH BERRY                               Date: 06/13/93  2:42p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST.                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Josh,
Thanks for the advice. Sorry about the Jerry thing I must've been real tired
to have replaced the first letter of your name with the first letter of your
surname. Anyway thanks again. Ive only started playing the game myself but my
friend is pretty far in it and hopefully he will now be able to clear it.

Regards
Dan Wagner

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From: BOB TROTMAN                            Number: 946
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 06/16/93  7:32p
Subj: 7th Guest...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > In a message of <10 Jun 93  17:22:00>, Adrian Pendell
 > (1:232/39) writes:
 >  >        I have really been wanting to buy this game, and, infact,
 > >        actually had taken it up to the register to buy it when I
 > >        noticed the box said it requires an SVGA monitor w/ 1 meg RAM
 > >        -is this true? If so, it seems a real dissapointment for those
 > >        of us who don't have SVGA cards ( I, personally, can't see a
 > >        damn bit of difference between the two..), and this would, along
 > >        w/ LInks 386, be only the second game i've ever seen that had
 > >        such a requirement...Thanks ahead of time...
 > Sorry I can't answer your question, but it is funny
 > how software makers will call 640x480x256 Super VGA,
 > when, in fact, it is not. They also think that 320x200
 > (MCGA) is VGA, when it is not.

The 7th Guest supports both of these video modes. It also needs a fast
computer like a 386/33/40, at least 512k on fast video board and a CDrom that
can transfer at least 150k per second. 4 megs of ram on the mother board, and
a sound card. This game isn't very demanding now is it?

                                  Bobby


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From: JOSH BERRY                             Number: 947
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/16/93 10:08p
Subj: CD drive for Sound Blaster Pro          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Does anyone know of a CD drive that has about a 300kb transfer rate
and less than 300ms access time that works for the Sound Blaster Pro. I
bought their upgrade kit last Christmas and I can't stand the slow 150kb
transfer rate. Please give me the specs for each drive and tell me if it
comes with the required drivers.
Thanks in advance.
                                        Josh
         
        P.S. also include price
          
        P.P.S. if it helps the box to my dads SBPro says that the only CD
drives that work with it are Creative Labs, Panasonic, and
Matsushita.
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From: DICK WILSON                            Number: 948
  To: WALT LANE                                Date: 06/01/93  2:32p
Subj: Re: FRAUD!                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WL->I have produced a program which will automatically scan your disk produce
a
WL->report telling what files need to be altered with an underscore and
perform
WL->alteration to the files (optional command line).  If any CDROM publishers
w
WL->this program, it is only $10 or trade for a CD title I don't have yet.

WL->Walt Lane - Sysop: The File Shop BBS  1:280/316

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Walt - as a sysop with 13 CD's on-line I could USE this myself.  How
about sending me your address, or your BBS number?

 * OLX 2.1 * Life is uncertain, so eat DESSERT first!


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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 949
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/93 10:14p
Subj: Programming CD-ROMs                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware produces the world's largest, best, and best
indexed collections of programmi8ng shareware/PD software in the following
categories. The libraries are $59.50 each, or $195 for everything we make.
Call (301)924-3594 (voice) for a brochure or mail EMS; 4505 Buckhurst Ct.;
Olney MD 20832-1830, Fax:301-963-2708.
ASM - 384 files, C/C++ - 914 files, Xbase - 2822 files, ObjectVision - 91
files, Paradox - 434 files, Turbo Pascal - 664 files, Visual Basic - 371
files, VBDOS/PDS/QB - 219 files, Access - 101 files.
All available on CD-ROM or diskettes.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 950
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93  3:44p
Subj: CD-ROMs for Programmers                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROMs for professional programmers from EMS Professional Shareware. These
are the April 1993 editions, July 1993 updates are $25 each. 384 ASM files,
914 C/C++, 821 AutoCAD, 2822 XBase, 698 Netware, 243 OS/2 (selected), 434
Paradox, 664 Turbo Pascal,  371 Visual Basic, 219 VBDOS/PDS/QB, 637 Windows
Professional. Each library on CD-ROM (with extensive database directories and
search program) is $59.50. Addition libraries on same CD-ROM are $25 each.
Call (301) 924-3594 (voice) or mail eengelmann@worldbank.org, or EMS
Professional Shareware, 4505 Buckhurst Ct., Olney MD 20832-1830
Also CD-ROMs with TrueType fonts, Games, Small business software, home
software, etc.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 951
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/16/93  5:11p
Subj: RULES                                   Refer: NONE
Read: 06/18/93  7:06a                       Private: No 

 TH> personally prefer ads that are short & sweet & illustrate a spec  
 TH> point - ads that will grab the user's attention.                  
                                                                       
  
VERY good advice! 
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From: GARY HOFFERMAN                         Number: 952
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/17/93  7:49a
Subj: Cdrom dealers wanted                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello to All,

We are looking for resellers and others who may be interested in marketing
commercial, shareware, and adult CD ROM software. We can offer over 150
titles at the most competitive pricing.

If you would be interested, please contact me at Consolidated CD ROM
215-276-3657 voice or 215-276-3854 fax (24hrs).

Thanks,

gary
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From: VERNON MELTON                          Number: 953
  To: JIM HUSBAND                              Date: 06/16/93  3:10p
Subj: Re: FOR TRADE - MAGAZINE RACK           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                     -=> Quoting Jim Husband to All <=-

 JH> I'd like to trade Magazine Rack (1991) for another CD-ROM. I no
Jim,
    I'll offer one (1) Sony Language's CD in trade for your's.  It is a
word by word translator that can act in stand alone mode or as TSR.  It
will translate the following language's.
          French
          German
          Italian
          Spanish
          Dutch
          Japanese (the two major varities)
          Chinese  (Manderin, I think)
          Norwegian
          Danish
          Finnish
          Swedish
          English
Let me know what you think of this offer.
later,
      Vernon Melton
 
... Some thoughts are best guillotined before actions result.
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 954
  To: DON HANCOCK                              Date: 06/16/93  6:30p
Subj: Roms                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> Personal experience has been that the Soundblaster kits' drives have been
>> the
>> SLOWEST on the market! They have been around 600ms access, tho' the sound

    I don't mean to be argumentative, but I have a Creative Labs CDRom
working next to a Mitsumi, they are both rated the same, but in all ways,
the Creative Labs smokes the mitsumi.

>> $90 for it NEW!) but I'm looking for something better than a Matsushita.

    I also run a Chinon 435, that is the best of the three by far, even
though it is rated the same.


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 955
  To: BRIAN WHEATLEY                           Date: 06/16/93  8:51p
Subj: Re: .TXT files                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> Hi, I will buy your tape, for $30. what type of games, would you put on
>> it?

    I have about 10 or so MEGS of games that are little adventures,
adcade style things, and text games.  They are all freeware and all have
adult content.  These are really just a bonus to help fill the tape,
since it is about the same amount of work either way.  I guess I'll
probably through some GIFS on there too, what the heck.
    Anyway, I would like to take the rest of this disscussion to Netmail,
if you have access please reply to:
                                            Eric Bravick
                                            1:377/53
                                            Zero Tolerance BBS

    If not, reply here.  I will need your full mailing address.  To mail
to Canada will probabley cost an extra $5.00 or so.
    Another question I have is what does Canadian law say about this kind
of thing?  Am I going to end up being exterdited five 5 years to Canada
and have to turn big chunks of ice into little ones with a big hammer?

    Anyway, try to go netmail, and we will contnue there.


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From: BEN NATION                             Number: 956
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 06/17/93  8:03a
Subj: nix pix hot pix 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CB> I was under the impression that you only had one disk, 
 CB> and that I had bought it.  You said that you were 
 CB> disappointed that it wasn't BBS ready and intended to 
 CB> return it to your source if I wasn't interested, have 
 CB> you decided to obtain several more instead?

 CB> ---
         You did buy my only copy at the time, I just know where to get
copies of HOT PIX 1, to which I can sell it to the public at $75. And yes,
though it has a dir. of descriptions, it's not "FILES.BBS" ready. I was going
to send it back to the source at the point we spoke, but started receiving
calls of interest on the disk, which led me to  the idea that I can provide
the disk for $75, instead of $100 or more dollars that some sources are
asking for. Though I'm NOT a SOURCE for CD's, I can sell HOT PIX 1, cheaper
than most. BTW
you should have disk in hand by the time you receive this.
                                                       Ben

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 957
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/17/93  5:17p
Subj: BB INSERTS...                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

have arrived.  Many thanks generous lady! You can probably guess why I 
needed them <chuckle & grin>. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 958
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/17/93 11:49a
Subj: CLIP ART ENCYCLOPEDIA                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Am I right in saying that this is the best of the clip art CDs? If not, 
what's better? In any case, I'd like to hear your best price. Thanks. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 959
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/17/93 11:58a
Subj: Florida Lion's Den In                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DC> sell shareware floppy disks.....these guys were selling a disk t  
 DC> paid less than a $.25 for at prices from $1.50 to $5.00 per disk  
                                                                       
  
I was wondering about this, too. Also, I've seen a *lot* of registration 
requests that include a phrase like "...my be freely distributed at no 
charge except for a small distribution fee..." In my experience, the 
$1.50 to $5.00 you mention is within those guidelines. It follows then 
that if a shareware CD producer has several THOUSAND programs on their 
disk, that even at exorbitant prices, the producers (and dealers) are 
effectively getting at best (worst?) a few cents per program. I agree, I 
don't understand the shareware authors' complaint. I think they shooting 
themselves in the foot with this stance. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 960
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/17/93 11:41a
Subj:  INFO WANTED!!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> Don't know how long it will take but I will be back with some in  
                                                                       
  
You're a jewel, Lady Lee! Many thanks.... 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 961
  To: PAUL JANEL                               Date: 06/17/93 11:47a
Subj: Looking for cd's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PJ> duplaction between them.... and they are very                     
 PJ> asdasdfafasdasdfasssssssasdfasdfsdfs                              
                                                                       
  
Oh, really? I thought they were more fgdvdvcvdvgdvccvvvvvvggcgdvcfdfcf. 
<just kidding> (:> 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 962
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/17/93 11:53a
Subj: TOP 5 ADULT CD'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> 3. GIFFY GOLD - Brand new from San Diego comes the first TRUE "R  
 MS>   CD designed with the sysop in mind.  Almost 1000 original, bea  
                                                                       
  
FYI: There's very definitely some "X" stuff on this disk; not a lot but 
it's there. 
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From: PAUL ELLIOTT                           Number: 963
  To: CHARLES HART                             Date: 06/17/93 11:23a
Subj: BBS Ready Sharware CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > In either case, it's gross negligence to include only part of
 > the files
 > required to make the program perform the intended function.

 > How does your disk stack up in this area?


I haven't had a chance to go through the whole disc. Your welcome to download
the ALLFILES from my BBS the filename is SSTUDIO.ZIP you can also freq it.

                                    Paul

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 964
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 06/17/93  5:50a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MB>Terry, the Giffy Gold has not shown up for trade on the Physical Therapy
dis
MB>so it is yours in trade for My Private Collection Vol. II if you are still
MB>intersted.  Please mail USPS priority, and echo back mailing instructions.
MB>will send out the Physical Therapy disc by USPS Priority as soonj as I
recei
MB>mailing instructions by echo.

Terry Woodward
2649 Marathon Lane
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33312

I'll try to get My Private collection off by Saturday. I have to go out
of town on business in about twenty minutes. Sorry.

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * My reality check just bounced.


--- WM v3.00/91-0241
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From: NILL TOULME                            Number: 965
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/16/93  7:45p
Subj: Re: RULES                               Refer: NONE
Read: 06/20/93  5:19p                       Private: No 

Quoting Tim Helton's message of 06-14-93 to Nill Toulme, in pertinent 
part:

 TH> -> Tim, what are the rules governing posting of price lists in this 
 TH> -> frequency, message length, etc.?
 TH> 
 TH> Nothing is etched in stone... Just use your common sense . . .

OK, thanks.

---
 * WinQwk 2.0b#131 * I'd always wondered about that. *
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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 966
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/17/93  9:23p
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                         The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 1-800-289-1ROM  FAX: (314) 521-7453
                      International 314-521-4862
               We have the following specials this week!

Software Vault II    $29.00 JUST Released!  8000+ Files All the latest!
                             Predominantly 1993!  Completely BBS ready
                             and compatible!  Built in CDROM door!


Shareware Studio II  $29.00  JUST RELEASED!  640 Megs of Shareware,
   With another disk $19.95       Advanced front end interfacing.
                                  Files.bbs in each directory and
                                  separately!
                                  Don't miss this opportunity!

CDwinbox             $29.00  The latest from DAMAR enterprises....
                             excellent disk with over 30% 1993 windows
                             files... combine it with the Premium
                             Windows disk below and have the BEST
                             windows collection available!


SwimWare 1993  $29.00  1500+ photos of beautiful women in bikinis
                      and lingerie.  Nothing more than PG-13 but all
                      excellent quality GIF files in 640x480 and
                      1024x768 resolution.  Completely BBS ready!

Games 1993     $25.00  **NEW** 6000 files... Completely BBS ready and
                      most of the games are from Jan/Feb/March 1993.
                      With only the classics being older.

Star Trek/     $25.00 1200 GIF photo's of Star Trek, The Next
Fantasy               Generation, Star Wars,  100+ sound files, Fantasy
                      Creatures, Dungeon's and Dragons, Conan, Star Trek
                      Games.  NEW AND COMPLETLEY BBS READY!

House of       $25.00 Over 200 of the latest shareware games, most
GAMES                 playable from the CDROM.  Excellent menu that
                      breaks the games down into Categories!

Monster Media III          $29.00        Fontmaster II CD Library   $20.00

Mega ROM 2                 $20.00        PC Sig 12                  $22.00
Mega Win/Os2               $20.00        Simtel 20  (April 1993)    $20.00
                                         CICA Windos (April 1993)   $20.00

   FIVE STAR PREMIUM Windows!!!!   $39.00   6000+ of the latest Windows
                                         files available!  Completely
                                         BBS ready, with PCboard style
                                         and Files.bbs descriptions!

   FIVE Star Premium DOS!!!        $39.00   6000+ GREAT DOS files.. ALL 92
                                         and 93 FILES!!! Files.bbs and
                                         PCBOARD file descriptions!

                          $69.00 for the set!
                   Caddies $2.99 with purchase!

*********************************************************************
               All prices in effect thru 6/30/93
   VISA          1 - 8 0 0 - 2 8 9 - 1 R O M        MASTERCARD
              ---- 100s of Titles Available ----



 * WCE 1.02/2072 * Is this yours? Your dog left it on my lawn ...


--- WM v2.09/92-0277
 * Origin: The MARKetplace BBS! (314) 521-3732 (1:100/550)
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From: SABINE VAN DEN AUDENAERDE              Number: 967
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 06/13/93  9:58a
Subj: Is this "service" ???                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Dave!

<CUT a lot!>

 > I'm sorry you didn't get a reply, and I want you to realize
 > that it's not Mike's fault.

But that doesn't explain why he did not react to our FAX-message!
And there's somebody here in the cdrom-echo that is wondering when Mike is
going to send him the promised CD to review.
A certain Mr Jackson, was it not ?!? BTW I write netmail to other dealers
too, and they reply to me the same way ... so ... what is this ? I think Mike
should ask another BBS-system to support him with a pointnumber etc. He won't
believe how much more efficient this is ...

It's very nice of you to take the blame ... ;-)

Anyway, I've already had one very good business-contact with another dealer.
Let's close the issue, after this _break_.

ALL DEALER-PRICELISTS ARE VERY WELCOME AT MY NETMAIL ADRESS AND
WILL BE POSTED IN OUR LOCAL cdrom.b AREA IN BELGIUM.

That's it ...

Greetz,
Sabine

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From: KARLA FLORES                           Number: 968
  To: CHRIS KOPENEC                            Date: 06/17/93  8:27a
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Add me to the list too...
my address is :
K.Flores
1171 Irish Rd.
Neenah, Wi
    54956

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From: KARLA FLORES                           Number: 969
  To: DOUG MILLER                              Date: 06/17/93  8:39a
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

please add me to your mailing list.  send any catalogs you have. If I'm not
interested in the adult ones...then my husband might be.
Send to:

K. Flores
1171 Irish Rd.
Neenah,Wi
   54956
                       Thank You 
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 970
  To: TIMOTHY C. NOVAK                         Date: 06/09/93  7:58p
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'd be happy to send you a brochure on EMS Professional Shareware's CD-ROM
libraries for PC Professionals. They really are in a different class than the
others you are considering, though they do cost a little bit more $59.50+.
Call (301)924-3594 (voice) or EMail eengelmann@worldbank.org with your
address to get a brochure. We ahve libraries for ASM, C/C++, Xbase, Paradox,
TPascal, VBasic, QBasic, OS/2, Netware, AutoCAD, TrueType, Access,
Spreadsheets, and more.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 971
  To: RICHARD KRUGER                           Date: 06/09/93  8:03p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have 5 new (old LU002 model) Mitsumi kits for $110 each plus shipping.
E-Mail eengelmann@worldbank.org or Fax: (301) 963-2708. Wires and credit
cards are fine.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 972
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93  9:21p
Subj: Mitsumis for $110                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I've got 4 Mitsumi Lu002 (600ms) CD-ROM drive kits for sale. These are not
fancy, but are priced right at $110 each. call voice (301) 924-3594 or email:
eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 973
  To: CD-R KITS                                Date: 06/14/93  9:24p
Subj: CD-R Kits                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm excited about a new CD-R (CD Rom recorder) kit. The Kit consists of the
Philips CDD-521 recorder, Adaptec 1542c SCSI card, external cable, and
Corel's new XCopy premastering software (incredibly simple to use). Couple
this with $21 blanks and you can produce CD-ROMs at a very attractive price.
The package comes to $4999. If interested, call EMS Professional Shareware,
voice:301-924-3594 or email: eengelmann@worldbank.org.
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From: DAVID BAKER                            Number: 974
  To: JOHN CUSTER                              Date: 05/17/93 10:35a
Subj: Chinon 431 Internal With                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JC> DB>The drive reads ISO 9660, I think, or 680 Megs.
 JC> >--- GEcho 1.00/beta

 JC> How Much ?

 JC>  * QMPro 1.02 41-4689 * Hey Rocky!  Watch me pull a rabbit
 JC> outta my hat!


 JC> --- WM v2.09/92-0214
 JC>  * Origin: The Classifieds BBS [415] 665-7918/2475
 JC> (1:125/665)
Price is $200 plus shipping, prepaid, or $225 COD with $25 deposit in
advance.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 975
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 06/16/93 10:34p
Subj: Old Mitsumi's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I've got three unused ones for $110 each. Call EMS, (301)924-3594 or
Fax:301-963-2708 or email eengelmann@worldbank.org (Mitsumi 600ms CD-ROM
drives, that is).
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From: ROGER COLLINS                          Number: 976
  To: ADRIAN PENDELL                           Date: 06/18/93  9:05a
Subj: Video..                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->        Thanks for the tip! That is indeed VERY helpful, considering t
-> was going to purchase was the exact card you mentioned ( Diamond Stea
-> it at all possible that your performance problem was with the CD-Rom
-> access speed, transfer rate, etc.) and not the video? I just can't im
-> having such a fast machine, good video card, and even a semi-decenct
-> not being able to run ANY game well enough...anyway, thanks again for
-> tip..

Nope, not a problem with the ROM drive, it was definately the video card
(animation was quick enough, just jumpy cause the card couldn't move
the graphics around quick enough.)

-> BTW: At the risk of having to move this discussion to a different ech
-> video card would you reccomend?

Don't know..still shopping myself.


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 * Origin: Aspencade BBS (614) 837-3896  (1:226/1210.0)
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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 977
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 06/18/93  1:01a
Subj: Hitachi CDROM drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>-> Well what would 12 drives and 3 cards cost?

MB>Seems like.... about 1400 dollars! Lots less than 2 of the 6 pack units,

Well I will be picking up 12 sometime in July....
 þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Porter Consulting Services! #1 in Networks...


--- WM v3.00/91-0215
 * Origin: Twilight BBS! * In Sunny St.Pete * (813)323-6023  (1:3603/60.0)
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From: JEFF NEWMAN                            Number: 978
  To: BEN NATION                               Date: 06/19/93 11:56a
Subj: Re: nix pix hot pix 1                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BN> Nix Pix Hot Pix 1, being sold for $75 (new). Limited
 BN> number of disks. Original Hot Pix 1.
 BN> call Voice 904-779-7994 or BBS at 904-777-0778.

 Ben, what CDROM drive, name and model did you run this on? people have
 had different rates of success reading this disk... thanks for the info

-Jeff NOPCCCC

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From: JEFF NEWMAN                            Number: 979
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 06/19/93 12:40p
Subj: Re: nix pix hot pix 1                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CB> 15 Jun 93 18:21, Carlos Benitz wrote to Ben Nation:

 BN>> Nix Pix Hot Pix 1, being sold for $75 (new). Limited
 CB> number of disks.
 BN>> Original Hot Pix 1.  call Voice 904-779-7994 or BBS at 904-777-0778.
 ....
 ....
 Carlos, what successful and unsuccessful drives do you know of that will
 and will NOT read this disk?? thanks for contrbuting to my memory database

-Jeff NOPCCCC

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 980
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/19/93 11:45a
Subj: Windows!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*****************************************************************************
************************  CD-ROM International  *****************************
*****************************************************************************

CD PowerBox v1.0 - An excellent collection of shareware designed with the
                 BBS SysOp in mind.  Has both a DOS user interface as well
                 as a Windows GUI.  Released 01/93.  $22.

CD WinBox v1.0 - This is THE BEST Windows shareware disc yet!  Has a true
                 Windows GUI for easy file viewing and manipulation.  Just
                 released (06/93)!  $29.

SPECIAL OFFER FOR FIDONET CUSTOMERS:

        Get both discs for only $45!  Please mention that you saw the ad in
        FidoNet, because these discs are regularly sold for $34 each.

                           * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
CD-ROM International       * Call our BBS for the latest catalog, or   *
(800) 678-2374 (Orders)    * file request CATALOG from 1:344/79.  The  *
(509) 754-0724 (Voice)     * catalog has beed updated with new titles  *
(509) 754-0109 (BBS/Fax)   * and lower prices.                         *
Cash/COD/Credit Cards      * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 981
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/20/93 12:11a
Subj: Florida Lion's Den In                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

|LN> they, I suppose--Really never had any real confirmation to             |
|LN> why these 46 authors hate people like me. If I do find out,            |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Well.........some programmers are just not very astute in the business
world.  Being that there are so few......I doubt seriously that they
think they can put out their own ROM.

BTW.....what is the expected release date of BB's successor?
___
 X MegaMail 2.10 #0:To ease your conscience one Tagline is a Blank.

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 982
  To: DAVE JAMES                               Date: 06/18/93  7:13p
Subj: Supplier                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DJ>jvc DISC AMERICA IN TEXAS WAS MY BEST PRICE... WE DID 500 FOR LESS THAN A
BU 
  >+++0++0AND A HALF EACH...  Includes Jewel case inserts (you provide) for 
  >back+++0++0++0 and and front (manuals)  jewel cases and shrink wrapping...
A 
  >+++0blanks for onsie twosie production I get down to $16 bucks locally
(boul 
  >to burn in own machine we got got the awesome Phillips drive for under
++0si 
  >grand...   My friends at Novell say the prices I got from JVC can'++0t be
be 
  >(takes two weeks 'tho...) 
  >write me for addresses or to hook you up. 
 
 could you send me the addresses too please? (or post them in a message 
to ALL)...  Also include where I can get the blank cds for the Phillips 
unit for that $16 price please. 
 
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 983
  To: STERLING PRICE                           Date: 06/19/93 12:32p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-sale or trad               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SP> SS> I have STORM II adult CD-ROM for sale or trade, I would prefer to
SP> SS> trade...        Leave message here if interested...

SP>I have Physical Therapy to trade.  If you are interested, reply via this
ech
SP>or call 501-443-4626 if you need voice verification.

I'm interested, but I don't know anything about this CD..?  Is it all
high-rez stuff...???  Please let me know a little about it if
possible...  Thanks,   Shane
---
 þ SLMR 2.1a þ 

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From: SHAWN DOWNEY                           Number: 984
  To: SYSOP                                    Date: 06/19/93  3:10p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Announcing "DIGITAL DREAMS" Adult CD ROM

Digital Dreams CD ROM Was Produced 06-15-93 And Is Now Available To All CD
ROM Users. The CD ROM Is An Adult Collection Of Images. This CD ROM Is The
Absolutely Finest Collection Of Adult .GIF Images Ever Compiled By Anyone!
Over 1700 (640x480x256) Images. Over 300 DL/GL/FLI Animations. The Latest
Graphic Utilities And More! 2500+ Files In All * OVER 500 MEGABYTES *

Features:

 - 1,700+ Unmodified Original Scans From The MCHENRY Adult BBS. No Painful
   Logos Slapped On Top Of These Quality Images By Irresponsible SysOps.
   Fully Classified And Described Just Like On McHenry. Images Trace McHenry
   Right Up To The Pressing Date Of This CD - Tonnes Of New Images Not Found
   On Any CD ROM Anywhere! HOT HOT HOT Entertainment For Adults!

 - Over 300 Adult Animations Reside In .ZIP Format For BBS Operators, As
   Well As In The RAW .DL, .GL, .FLI Files Ready For Viewing. The Latest Of
   Each Animation Viewer Is Included.

 - Fully SysOp Ready. File Listing Formats In 3 Styles. Support For Anyone
   Using The Standard FILES.BBS Listing. Also Available Is A FILES.DIR For
   TBBS Software. And One More Format For Another Popular Software Package.
   Support For RemoteAccess, QuickBBS, SuperBBS, WildCat!, TBBS, PCBoard And
   More!!!! Every Image Is Listed In The File Listings In Each Directory.

 - Add This CD To Your Adult Collection And You'll Have By Far The Best Set
   Of Adult Images Available To Your Users On Your System! No Annoying ZIP
   Banners Advertising Someone Else's BBS - No Annoying Logos Plastered Over
   The Images - It's Perfect!

 - 0% Duplication, Absolutely Incredible Package. I Personally Own Over 10
   Adult CD ROM's And This One Takes The Cake * BY FAR * Designed By A SysOp
   With The SysOp In Mind.

 - An Absolute Must For The Avid .GIF Collector. No Collection Touches What
   Is On This ROM - It's Incredible!!! Includes All The Popular GIF Viewers
   Such As CSHOW, VPIC, VUIMAGE And A Whole Lot More. Drawing Programs, Image
   Editors, Converters, Etc.

 - Master File Listings Compiled And Included On The CD ROM. Each And Every
   Directory Is Included. This Is A DREAM Come True For SysOps With Adult
   Areas!

To Order This Amazing CD ROM Send A Cheque Or Money Order For $79US Funds To:

 SR Media
 P.O. Box 72138 G.L.P.O
 1600 - 90th Avenue S.W.
 Calgary, Alberta
 T2V 5H9

Sorry, We Don't Currently Accept Credit Cards. Money Order Payments Will Be
Shipped *SAME DAY*. Prices Do Not Include Shipping. We'll Ship However You
Want It Shipped. FedEx or UPS Recommended.

SR Media Information Line: 403-630-1336

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From: SHAWN DOWNEY                           Number: 985
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/19/93  3:10p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Announcing "DIGITAL DREAMS" Adult CD ROM

Digital Dreams CD ROM Was Produced 06-15-93 And Is Now Available To All CD
ROM Users. The CD ROM Is An Adult Collection Of Images. This CD ROM Is The
Absolutely Finest Collection Of Adult .GIF Images Ever Compiled By Anyone!
Over 1700 (640x480x256) Images. Over 300 DL/GL/FLI Animations. The Latest
Graphic Utilities And More! 2500+ Files In All * OVER 500 MEGABYTES *

Features:

 - 1,700+ Unmodified Original Scans From The MCHENRY Adult BBS. No Painful
   Logos Slapped On Top Of These Quality Images By Irresponsible SysOps.
   Fully Classified And Described Just Like On McHenry. Images Trace McHenry
   Right Up To The Pressing Date Of This CD - Tonnes Of New Images Not Found
   On Any CD ROM Anywhere! HOT HOT HOT Entertainment For Adults!

 - Over 300 Adult Animations Reside In .ZIP Format For BBS Operators, As
   Well As In The RAW .DL, .GL, .FLI Files Ready For Viewing. The Latest Of
   Each Animation Viewer Is Included.

 - Fully SysOp Ready. File Listing Formats In 3 Styles. Support For Anyone
   Using The Standard FILES.BBS Listing. Also Available Is A FILES.DIR For
   TBBS Software. And One More Format For Another Popular Software Package.
   Support For RemoteAccess, QuickBBS, SuperBBS, WildCat!, TBBS, PCBoard And
   More!!!! Every Image Is Listed In The File Listings In Each Directory.

 - Add This CD To Your Adult Collection And You'll Have By Far The Best Set
   Of Adult Images Available To Your Users On Your System! No Annoying ZIP
   Banners Advertising Someone Else's BBS - No Annoying Logos Plastered Over
   The Images - It's Perfect!

 - 0% Duplication, Absolutely Incredible Package. I Personally Own Over 10
   Adult CD ROM's And This One Takes The Cake * BY FAR * Designed By A SysOp
   With The SysOp In Mind.

 - An Absolute Must For The Avid .GIF Collector. No Collection Touches What
   Is On This ROM - It's Incredible!!! Includes All The Popular GIF Viewers
   Such As CSHOW, VPIC, VUIMAGE And A Whole Lot More. Drawing Programs, Image
   Editors, Converters, Etc.

 - Master File Listings Compiled And Included On The CD ROM. Each And Every
   Directory Is Included. This Is A DREAM Come True For SysOps With Adult
   Areas!

To Order This Amazing CD ROM Send A Cheque Or Money Order For $79US Funds To:

 SR Media
 P.O. Box 72138 G.L.P.O
 1600 - 90th Avenue S.W.
 Calgary, Alberta
 T2V 5H9

Sorry, We Don't Currently Accept Credit Cards. Money Order Payments Will Be
Shipped *SAME DAY*. Prices Do Not Include Shipping. We'll Ship However You
Want It Shipped. FedEx or UPS Recommended.

SR Media Information Line: 403-630-1336

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 986
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/19/93  7:48p
Subj: Digital Dreams                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The DD CD didn't arrive by today (Saturday). Perhaps it'll show up next week.
I'll post you another message when it gets here. Cheers!

---
 * Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 |  (1:106/30)
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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 987
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/18/93 10:31p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MB> will send out the Physical Therapy disc by USPS Priority as soonj
 MB> as I recei
 MB> mailing instructions by echo.
 TW> I'll try to get My Private collection off by Saturday. I have to
 TW> go out of town on business in about twenty minutes. Sorry.

I got this friday night, on my way out the door for two days.  Will go out
Monday AM.  Remember, this disc is an EXACT duplicate of XXX Extreme, so
don't get it in another trade.  Layterz, and I hope you enjoy it.

 * MKRead v1.01 * If they mention penguins, be afraid.  Very afraid.


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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 988
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/19/93 12:28a
Subj: Wiz-Pak CD-Rom                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have one new, unused copy of Wiz-Pak 6 pack from wizardware.  It is
supposed to have over 170 programs, from VGA painting to photos and arcade
games.  This disc will not work on a Mitsumi drive [guess what kind I have!].
 I would like to trade this disc for most any other disc, as long as I can
use it.  If anyone is intersted, please reply here. BTW, the disc is dated
1992.

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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 989
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/19/93  2:27p
Subj: NEW Corel ARTSHOW 3 CD                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Latest Corel ArtShow 3 
     
     CD with beautifully printed coffee table book
          
          ArtShow 3 Program (does not need CorelDraw to run) is run from 
          Windows and allows searching  & viewing of all 3000 images 
          accompanied by on-line MIDI music
          
          3000 images in CorelDRAW .CDR format (editable in CorelDraw)
          
          Corel CD-Audio Program- allows you to play your MUSIC CDs in
          your CD-ROM drive.

          Corel ARTVIEW Screen Saver for Windows 3.1

          >> Still Sealed-- BRAND NEW <<

          $25 + UPS

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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 990
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/19/93  2:29p
Subj: Latest CorelDRAW 4.0                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          CorelDRAW 4.0 - the full package
    
    New   * 750 fonts in Type 1 and TrueType  
          * 18,000 Clip art images
          * Thousands of fractal textures & fills
          * Direct scanning with OCR
          * Trace Business Forms
          * Complete Desktop Publishing functions 
               MultiPage Layouts
               Complete Color Separations
          * ANIMATION WITH SOUND
          * Photo retouching with new filters & textures     
     
     Complete: All Disks (3 1/2"),  All Documentation  &  2- CDs
          >>> BLANK REGISTRATION CARD <<<
    
               List $595  Asking >> $250 <<
    
               412-761-9090  FAX:412-766-3299

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From: DANE BEKO                              Number: 991
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/19/93 11:03a
Subj: Trade for a CD-ROM?                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

While I don't have the $$ to purchase a CD-ROM drive, I do have two
software packages that I'd like to trade for one.

1. Borland Paradox 3.5, opened but never used.  All original
   disks/manuals.

2. BLAST Professional v10.5, DOS version.  Opened never used. Original
   disks/manuals.

Internal or external, doesn't matter.  Would like the complete kit
though to include adapter and drivers.  Thanks.

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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 992
  To: BEN NATION                               Date: 06/19/93  4:39p
Subj: nix pix hot pix 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ
 BN> You did buy my only copy at the time, I just know where                Þ
 BN> to get copies of HOT PIX 1, to which I can sell it to the public       Þ
 BN> at $75. And yes, though it has a dir. of descriptions, it's not        Þ
ÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ
Ben- 

Any chance of these getting into the $50 range? If so, Then I'll get one. :)
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From: KAMAL HAFFAR                           Number: 993
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/19/93  8:04a
Subj: My cds order!!!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > As I told you on the phone, I am in the process of
 > clearing this up.  We
 > sent these by Air Mail to your address in Canada, and
 > the package was
 > insured.  I've given all the info to the Post Office,
 > and will get a
 > duplicate shipment off to you as soon as they confirm
 > non-delivery.

Hello Mike, I did finally receive my package two days ago. I am really
impressed with pier2.  Unfortunately though, you have sent me So Much
Shareware II instead of shareware 93.

Kamal

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From: BILL DEERTZ                            Number: 994
  To: BRYAN SPEED                              Date: 06/19/93  8:59a
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Does the Mitsumi $200 dollar drives allow more than one drive to be i
-> If so, and you have a config.sys/Autoexec.bat you can send netmail or
-> here , i would really appreciate it!
-> --- FMail 0.92
->  * Origin: Embedded BBS RA+RIP (214)727-2610 (1:124/6505)

Yes, you can run up to two  Mitsumi's on the same interface card.  I
have two and have been running them on a 2 node system for several
months with no problems.  The following are excerpts from my config.sys
and autoexec.bat files:

DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 \DEV\MTMCDD.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:0
/M:5 /I:5
DEVICE:C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 \DEV\MTMCDD.SYS /D:MSCD002 /P:310 /A:0
/M:5 /I:2

AUTOEXEC.BAT

C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\BIN\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /D:MSCD002 /E /V


Hope this helps....


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From: KEVIN WILLIAMS                         Number: 995
  To: TONY D. BERRY                            Date: 06/19/93  7:21p
Subj: 7th Guest...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I dunno what kind of drive it is, I was hoping someone could tell ME! I have
2 and that is the extra one I got with the deal. Its never been used...No
cables and is 200 bucks asking too much? Make me an offer or call my bbs at
627-2537
The Pit for a quick reply..

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From: JOSH BERRY                             Number: 996
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 06/19/93  9:26a
Subj: CD drive for Sound Blaster Pro          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Thanks for the information. I'll look in to it the first chance I
get. later...
                                        Josh
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From: MIKE DICKERT                           Number: 997
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/20/93  1:01a
Subj: Question                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  This is probably a stuupid question (although, I've been told the only
stupid questio is the one unasked) but will all these disks I've just read
about in this conference work without a bbs front end/adapter type program?
        I've not gotten into the cd-rom circuit but am interested, so...
  

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 998
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/20/93  7:14a
Subj: CD Drives                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Both Drives Include:  90 Day Warranty, External DIP switches, True 50 pin
  SCSI, 350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume, newest ROM
  installed.  Diagnostic/cleaning done by service center.  NO special
  drivers required.  5.25 - HH Drive. 64k Buffer and manual. MPC Compatible

205-837-5053 -=- Leave Message if not home, it WILL be returned -=-



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From: BEN NATION                             Number: 999
  To: JEFF NEWMAN                              Date: 06/20/93  6:13p
Subj: nix pix hot pix 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

the cd-rom that I use is the mitsumi brand. 350K transfer model.




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From: CARLOS AVELLANET                       Number: 1000
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 06/20/93  7:02p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi questions                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Dave Kalwishky to Carlos Avellanet <=-

 DK> According to the DOCS that come with the German Mitsumi drive you can
 DK> install OS/2 right from the ROM.  The driver has worked great for me.

     We would very much see those docs!  Can you quote the installation 
     steps here?

     Also is the German Mitsumi the same as the American counterpart? Is 
     it SCSI or AT interface?

     I spent a whole week trying to find a way around it at no avail.

carlos.

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From: CHARLES HART                           Number: 1001
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/20/93 10:15p
Subj: CD COMPARISONS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>Thanks again for the order.  Sorry you were disappointed with the disc.
  >99% of my customers have praised the Pier 2 CD for its overall quality
  >and layout, but I realize that NO shareware CD is perfect in every
  >respect, and therefore cannot reasonably expect to please all of the
  >people all of the time with any given product.  In MY opinion, a few
  >duplicate files, or incomplete .ZIP sets does not make or break ANY CD,
  >and compared to the bulk of what is on the market currently, Pier 2 ranks
  >among the elite in the shareware field.  This is not just my opinion
  >either, as hundreds of MY customers and thousands of Pier users in general
  >continue to use and enjoy the discs.

First, I do not believe I mentioned where I purchased the disk on the
basis that the vendor can clearly not be expected to personally review
every facet of every product - even I think that's a bit much to expect.

<g>

MS>It is extremely difficult for anyone producing a shareware CD to
  >ensure 100% accuracy in the makeup and layout of a disc due to the
  >ungodly number of man hours that are required to produce a CD....

I quite agree that it's a lot of work.  That's why they charge as much
as they do for the disk.  You will note I made no mention of the $6 disk
I ordered, one I found somewhat *more* lacking than Pier 2 but one for
which I felt I received value for the money spent.

MS>Aside from all that Charles, my main concern here is your
  >satisfaction with the order, so if you would like to return the CD
  >for a different title, or titles, simply put it to my attention and
  >I'll be happy to take care of it.

We need to communicate better here - a legitimate complaint about a disk
does *not* indicate dissatisfaction with the vendor of same - at least
in this case it definitely does *not*!

You shipped exactly what I ordered when you said you would and sold me
what I asked for - not what you wanted to sell, which to this day I do
not know because I did not give you time to tell me <g>.

I am more than satisfied - simply making sure that other new buyers know
there *are* imperfections in the process of bringing the contents of a
major BBS to your home machine for less than one percent of the phone
cost to DL all this stuff......

Relax, Ok?

<g>


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1002
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/20/93  9:18a
Subj: CD WINBOX - GET ONE!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS>     FROM THE MAKERS OF CD-POWERBOX . . . . . CD WINBOX 1.0 IS HE  
                                                                       
  
OK, Mike. Send me one. After e-i-g-h-t weeks of CONCENTRATED effort, I'm 
about to get the hang of 3.1 (Maybe I'm a slow learner!). If this CD's 
half as good as PB, it'll be worth the price. Honk if ya' need address, 
VISA #, etc. but you should still have it online. 
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 1003
  To: ERIC ENGELMANN                           Date: 06/19/93  1:03p
Subj: Old Mitsumi's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EE> I've got three unused ones for $110 each. Call EMS, (301)924-3594 or 
EE> Fax:301-963-2708 or email eengelmann@worldbank.org (Mitsumi 600ms 
EE> CD-ROM drives, that is).

Hi Eric,
Thanks for the reply, sounds like a pretty good deal, but I have seen them
advertised for $90.00 each.
If you would be willing to sell them for that I would buy three of them...  

-Joe
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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 1004
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/19/93  5:54p
Subj: NEC drive for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

..NEC external CDROM CDR36 w/8bit controller...$200..........used

James F. Porter
(813) 345-7297
 þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Who said that Interstellar Empires don't exit?


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From: ALAN ORNDORFF                          Number: 1005
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 06/20/93  2:48p
Subj: Re: CD drive for Sound Bl               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EP>The Texel 3029 (280ms access, 300kbs transfer) and the Toshiba 3041 (200ms
  >access, 330kbs transfer) will work on the SBPro.  You can find them in
  >Computer Shopper for prices in the range of $375-$450 and $425-$500,
  >respectively.

Can you expand on this please.  I have several Toshiba 3041 cd rom
drives at work and a sound blaster pro card at home.  The Toshiba is a
true scsi device and the sound blaster pro is a NON scsi host.  do you
mean that you can plug the audio output of the toshiba cd rom drive to
the audio input of the sbpro? or do you mean you can use the sbpro as a
host adapter for the toshiba? thanks.  i'll believe the former, but if
you can tell me how to do the later, it would be appreciated.
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From: BILL SCHNELL                           Number: 1006
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 06/20/93 10:30a
Subj: Mitsumi questions                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Dave!

18 Jun 93 17:10, Dave Kalwishky wrote to Bill Schnell:

 BS>> I've sucessfully installed the 2.1 beta, and anticipate no troubles
 >> with the GA 2.1. You simply edit the config.sys on the 2 boot
 >> disks you make to install the mitsumi driver. Piece of cake.
 >> Check with your local Fernwood distribution site for the latest
 >> drivers. I'm using the Noller Driver from Germany, and it works
 >> flawlessly!

 DK> The german drive quit working on June 15th, is there an updated one out?
 DK> I can't seem to find one anywhere.  I was running the UPDAT4.ZIP file.

You'll have to register it. Well worth the $23.00. Send netmail to
2:224/40.17 for more info. If you use your credit card, they can file attach
them to you.

Bill

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From: ED FORTIN                              Number: 1007
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/20/93 12:00a
Subj: CDROM DRIVE Specials                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S

 > Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare
 > -$1199.

Are these Canadian or US prices ? Do the prices include all taxes?

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From: NEIL ALLEN                             Number: 1008
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/19/93  5:43p
Subj: Nightwatch Interactive!!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

 MS> WOW!!   New > INTERACTIVE < Adult video CD!  Only . . . .
 MS> $65.00
 MS> :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 
 MS> Introducing NIGHT WATCH, the first "Interactive" full-length
 MS> adult movie!

 MS> You make the rounds with a beautiful late night security guard
 MS> as you check out the action in her complex.

 MS> QUANTITIES LIMITED . . . . $65.00 while they last. . . . . .

        Hi Mike,  can you tell me if this CD requires more than the
conventional RAM in order to run properly, and does it run fine on a 286?

thanks

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From: TEJ DHAWAN                             Number: 1009
  To: BILL HENDERSON                           Date: 06/19/93 10:31p
Subj: Wanted...7th guest                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

BH>I have a VERY slightly used 7th Guest I'll let go for
BH>$40.00 or will trade for Wing Commander II cdrom.
BH>Interested, leave me a note or call me at 704-399-6555.

If you still have it and will ship it for $40, please ship COD to me...

give me a call for my address at 515-247-5899 weekdays please.

Tej Dhawan
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From: TEJ DHAWAN                             Number: 1010
  To: ALL DEALERS                              Date: 06/19/93 10:38p
Subj: Catalogs                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please forward a copy of your general and/or adult catalog, including
all available titles and topics to the following address.  I am over 21
yrs of age.

Thanx in advance

Tej Dhawan
5233 Walnut St
W. Des Moines, IA  50265

PS I am already on CDROM Int'l and Groupware mailing lists - please
don't duplicate that mail.

Tej
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From: TEJ DHAWAN                             Number: 1011
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 06/19/93 10:40p
Subj: catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dave,

I bought Night Owl from you a couple of months ago.. what new titles do
you have..?  Could you please Email or Snail Mail me a list?

Tej
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From: TEJ DHAWAN                             Number: 1012
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/19/93 10:41p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for a complete (used or new) 7th Guest package...

It has to be lower than CompUSA's $47.95...

Tej Dhawan
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From: TEJ DHAWAN                             Number: 1013
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/19/93 10:42p
Subj: Speed Cache Plus for sal                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the complete Speed Cache Plus package from Symantec that can not
only cache your CDROM drives but also your hard drives etc... lots of
options, high speed cache with Windows interface built in...


Interested?  Make best offer!

Tej Dhawan
515-247-5899
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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 1014
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/19/93 11:38p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>We have the Digital Dreams adult CD's in stock now.  Last time I talked
MS>to you, you expressed some interest.  Price is $29.  Gimme a call!

Mike,
You have the address and the card number. Go ahead and send it. BTW, I'm
going to be returning "My first time" for credit. I'm going to wait
until they fix the problems with it before trying it again.
Thanks,
Terry

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now.


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From: PETE CRESSWELL                         Number: 1015
  To: MARC FONTENOT                            Date: 06/18/93  9:11p
Subj: Looking For Cd-Rom Softw                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  MF> ^AMSGID: 1:290/8.0 2c200fa4
  MF> I am looking to start up a bbs in the Houston area in the comming
  MF> weeks, and I am looking for a good "all-purpose" CD-Rom disk. 

Watch out for PCSig12.   It sounds good in print, but when you get it you
find out that there's no ASCII index.   They want another $24 for that...Sort
of a BB license fee, I guess.


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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 1016
  To: ED FORTIN                                Date: 06/19/93  8:35p
Subj: ADDITIONAL INFO ON NIGHT                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EF>I thought those with CD roms might be interested in this. 
  >Anyone have any comments on this or know how to go about deleting a file
fro 
  >a CD_disc? 
 
 you can't delete it.  It's there forever and ever and ever.  If you're 
running it on a bbs, and your software is good enough to use 
descriptions that are on the hard drive, then just edit the text 
description file on the hard drive.  Depending on the bbs software/door, 
the caller may not even be able to find it in a search or donwload it if 
they know the name, but either way it won't be LISTED 
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From: JIM REED                               Number: 1017
  To: JOSH BERRY                               Date: 06/20/93  9:23a
Subj: Mitsumi Audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JB>        If you have a Sound Blaster Pro or better you can look on

Hi Josh;
        Thanks for the info - You have me very close to upgrading my SB
        to a PRO.
                                /JIM/
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From: JIM REED                               Number: 1018
  To: JERE WESSELL                             Date: 06/20/93  9:23a
Subj: Asian Ladies                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TH>-> -> I'm interested in the Asian Ladies CD.  Tell me more about it.
TH>-> ->
TH>-> ->                              Les
TH>-> good overall disk if you like oriental ladies.  Bunch of my older stu
TH>-> before i boight the hp scan jet IIc.  Not my best work.  Files.lst ar
TH>-> Jere, Sysop Nighthawk Adult Graphics

Hi Jere;
        Me thinks you underate yourself a little.  I for one am very
        pleased with AL.
                                /JIM/
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From: JIM REED                               Number: 1019
  To: CLINT SAVAGE                             Date: 06/20/93  9:25a
Subj: MSCDEX Problem                          Refer: NONE
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NA>CS->This is a bit out of the Sales area but....Call it customer service..

NA>CS->I have an external Sony CD-ROM that was working fine with DOS6 on a
386D
NA>  ->Then I upgraded to a AMI (motherboard) 486DX2-66 Just normal DOS v6
usin
NA>  ->MSCDEX v2.20 (in dos v6 package) and get "Incorrect DOS version).
Tried
NA>  ->with 3.1 and 4.1 and 5.0 (not all at the same time) with no luck. Any
NA>  ->Suggestions. Thanks

NA>Call MicroSoft for an upgrade to at least v 2.21 on the MSCDEX. -=- Ned

Hi Clint;
        Try this instead.  Go to the c prompt and enter "help setver"
        then follow the instructions.  Easy.
                                /JIM/
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1020
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 06/19/93 11:39a
Subj: Cd-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MJ>Hi Jim, I'm interested in prices/availability on the double speed Texel 
  >(SCSI-2) and the same type Toshiba, and would like you latest catalog. 
Let  
  >know if you have any type of special on the above type drive (double
speed, 
  >300K xfer) with a 16-bit SB card.  Thanks in advance. 
 
Sorry, Mark, but I don't sell drives.  I am only in the software end of 
the CD-Rom business right now.  I sent you a catalog yesterday.  You 
should probably get it before this message. Thanks for your interest. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: THOM JENNINGS                          Number: 1021
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/20/93 10:32a
Subj: Clip Art Encyclopedia                   Refer: NONE
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*BJ> Am I right in saying that this is the best of the clip art CDs? If not,*
*BJ> what's better? In any case, I'd like to hear your best price. Thanks.  *
*****************************************************************************

IMHO, the best in clip art CD-Roms is the disk that comes with Corel
Draw.  You can get version 3.0 for $199 anyplace (usually lower) and
the new version 4.0 will probably go for $450 on up.  How much clip
art is on it?  12,000 on version 3.0 and over 18,000 on V4.  That
combined with 200+ truetype fonts makes it a deal and a half
especially when you consider Corel Draw is included free with all that
clip art.  (Or vice versa)

Thom
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From: THOM JENNINGS                          Number: 1022
  To: KEVIN WILLIAMS                           Date: 06/20/93 10:50a
Subj: Toshiba Xm 3301B                        Refer: NONE
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*KW> I just recently aquired on e of the things and want to sell it, It has *
*KW> never been used and has no cable's or packaging. I will take offers on *
*KW> here. Again a TOSHIBA XM3301b Internal CD ROM DRIVE. I will entertain  *
*KW> Trade offers as well                                                   *
*****************************************************************************

Kevin,
This is a terrific drive.  I use one now with the Corel SCSI card.  I
got mine as part of a package deal with Corel Draw.  I don't know what
I'd do with the extra drive but if the price was right I'd be
interested as long as you guarantee against DOA.  Give me a call at
(701) 594-5308.    Thom
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1023
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/21/93 12:31a
Subj: Special                                 Refer: NONE
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**********************  Mix or Match Specials  ***********************
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Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes         Shareware Gold II
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   Windows Shareware
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       Day Time Express
PC-SIG # 10 or 8          Chicano Datebase        America's Premier
LaserTax On CD            Phoenix # 3             Shareware Explosion
    Mix Or Match any 3 cd for $30. - While Supplies Last !!!
ORDERS ONLY 800-243-0517 / INFORMATION 216-225-3263 / FAX 216-225-6759
***********************************************************************


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: STERLING PRICE                         Number: 1024
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 06/20/93 10:16p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-sale or trad               Refer: NONE
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  SS> I'm interested, but I don't know anything about this CD..?  Is it all
 SS> high-rez stuff...???  Please let me know a little about it if
 SS> possible...  Thanks,   Shane

 Hi Shane...OK, here's the lowdown on Physical Therapy:

        About 3,050 GIF files,most 640x480 or better.  There are a few
        320 x 200, but not many.

        19 FLI animations (about 10 1/2 megs)

        98 GL animations (about 40 megs)

        27 DL animations (about 13 megs).

There are also numerous graphics viewing and manipulation utilities on the
disc.  (Oh, BTW,  there are BBS labels on pretty much all of the gifs if
that makes a difference.)  I think this is a pretty good disc and I would
keep it except for one thing...I already have FAO 1, 2, and 3,  and most
everything on this disc I already have.  Anyway,  write back and tell me
what you think.  See you,

Sterling


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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 1025
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/20/93  8:15p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9.0!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                         The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 1-800-289-1ROM  FAX: (314) 521-7453
        $49.00         International 314-521-4862     $49.00

Don't be the last on your block to get Night Owl 9.0!  The MARKetplace
WILL have this disk before 99.9% of the rest of the world!  If you
snooze you lose in the "who's got the newest shareware on their BBS"
business nowadays... so call The MARKetplace now and reserve your
copy... You'll have your copy of the MOST popular shareware disk in the
world before ANYONE in your area!

Order now at the price below, and receive the NEW Shareware Studio II
for $14.95 and get them both shipped OVERNIGHT EXPRESS for the price of
regular shipping ($5.00)!

If you don't buy from The MARKetplace... you'll be waiting tooooooo
long to get your NEW NIGHT OWL 9.0!

All 1993 files... 670+ megs... over 4700 New files... Updated Search
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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 1026
  To: BEN NATION                               Date: 06/20/93 11:38p
Subj: nix pix hot pix 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*****************************************************************************
 BN> You did buy my only copy at the time, I just know where                *
 BN> to get copies of HOT PIX 1, to which I can sell it to the public       *
 BN> at $75. And yes, though it has a dir. of descriptions, it's not        *
*****************************************************************************

Ben-

Any chance of these getting into the $50 range? If so, Then I'll get one. :)


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1027
  To: TYLER A. WUNDER                          Date: 06/20/93  1:19a
Subj: Me is Mike somebody                     Refer: NONE
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TAW>now, about three days later I realize that my VISA's been just waiting to
be
TAW>declined on me (with a $500 limit, it's been sitting at about $490) and
that
TAW>probably thinks I'm a cheap bastard who likes to order things on expired
TAW>VISA's.
TAW>     To the Mike in question, my apologies.  Give me your phone number
and s
TAW>items again, so that I can pay my debts and try again.

Tyler,

Not a problem.  I'll wait to hear from you.  My voice number is 509-457-2892.
(BTW, I don't think you're cheap at all.  It's happened to me too, more than
once!)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1028
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/20/93  1:19a
Subj: OINK OINK                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bob,

Finally got those Porkware's back in.  Did you still want to review one?
It's been a while, so if you already have one, let me know.  Have one
earmarked for you!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1029
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/20/93  1:19a
Subj: CLIP ART ENCYCLOPEDIA                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>Am I right in saying that this is the best of the clip art CDs? If not,
BJ>what's better? In any case, I'd like to hear your best price. Thanks.

If you're referring to Lee's PCX POTPOURRI, then I would have to agree that
it rates very highly as far as the quality of the images and overall
layout.  We have them at $28.

Talk to ya later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1030
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/20/93  1:19a
Subj: TOP 5 ADULT CD'S                        Refer: NONE
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BJ>FYI: There's very definitely some "X" stuff on this disk; not a lot but
BJ>it's there.

Yeah I know.  When I got the disc in, I looked at 200 or so, and they all
seemed pretty mild, so I figured OK, a good-looking "R" CD.  Lately I've
seen a few that are more in the "NC-17" range.  (Don't you know "X" is
outdated Bob?)  8)

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1031
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 06/20/93  1:19a
Subj: your ad - info please                   Refer: NONE
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LF>Could you tell me more about the following:
LF>Complete Bookshop.............16.50
LF>Reader's Library..............32.50
LF>Reference Library.............27.50
LF>Desktop Bookshop (New!).......28.50

Lois,

I think I already did in our phone conversation. <g>  Enjoyed talking to
you.  Let me know what the "boss" thinks.

Bye,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1032
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/20/93  1:19a
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 1/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 June 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 6/17
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                                   1 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........19.00    Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00
 7th Guest (Unbelievable!).....55.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........58.00
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    MIDI Music Shop...............32.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........24.50
 American Business Phonebk 1...18.00    Monarch Notes.................64.00
 American Business Phonebk 2...28.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 Amiga AB20....................16.50    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...43.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Monster Media 93 (New!).......33.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......27.50    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....27.50    Mother of All Clipart (New!)..24.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Audubon's Birds...............27.00    National Business Directory...39.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............27.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Barney Bear School or Space...22.00    National Parks................32.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 4.2.................22.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 5.0.................23.00
 Bible Library.................31.00    Night Owl 6.2.................24.00
 Bibles & Religion.............16.50    Night Owl 7.0.................25.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 8.0.................33.50
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl 7/8 2-Pak...........55.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....19.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Business Master...............20.00    North American Fax Book.......49.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    Ocean Digital Imagery.........34.50
 California Collection.........17.00    Original Shareware 1992.......18.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...25.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    Our Solar System..............16.50
 CD PowerBox...................23.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....33.00
 CD Winbox (New!)..............29.00    PC-SIG #10....................27.00
 CD-ROM Grab Bag (4 CD's)......29.00    PC-SIG #12....................28.00
 CD Grab Bag (1 CD)............19.00    PC Gameroom...................28.50
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........24.00    Phoenix 3.0...................19.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Pier 1........................29.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....54.00    Pier 2 (In stock!)............45.00
 Clipart Galore................30.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Clipart Goliath...............16.50    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (New!)......24.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........29.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......88.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............16.50    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........125.00
 Complete Bookshop.............16.50    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Composer Quest................38.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........34.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency...109.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....79.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....79.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Conan the Cimmerian...........35.00    Publisher's Paradise (New!)...35.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....39.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........29.00    Reader's Library..............31.50
 Crossword Cracker.............24.50    Reference Library.............27.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....38.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...43.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......16.50    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....28.50
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......25.50
 Desktop Bookshop (New!).......28.50    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...28.00
 Dictionaries & Languages......16.50    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............34.00    Shareware Online..............29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1033
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/20/93  1:19a
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 2/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Overload............16.50
 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Shareware Studio 1............21.00
 Empire Clipart................29.00    Shareware Studio 2 (New!).....27.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......28.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Encyclopedia of Sound (New!)..22.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...25.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Font Master 2.................28.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Shareware 2...........29.50
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    Software Vault 1..............25.00
 Front Page News...............26.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....29.00
 Game Arena (New!).............19.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..34.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Sound Sensations..............16.50
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Games 1993 (New!).............25.00    SoundWAV (New!)...............29.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Space Quest IV................25.00
 Global Explorer (New!)........96.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Street Atlas USA..............88.00
 Grolier's Ill. Ency. 2.0......39.00    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Grolier's MM Ency. 5.0........49.00    Super CD 2 (New!).............29.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency. 1.5.......49.00    Super Games For Windows.......18.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...27.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.50
 Hacker Chronicles.............27.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.50
 Ham Radio 3.0.................16.50    Technotools...................16.50
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..32.00
 House of Games................29.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Illustrated Holy Bible........49.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Too Many Typefonts............16.50
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Total Baseball................29.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    U.S. & World Atlas............29.00
 Jets & Props..................31.50    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........19.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    VGA Spectrum 1................17.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    VGA Spectrum 2................25.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    Visions of Saturn (New!)......25.00
 King's Quest V................25.00    Vital Signs...................39.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........27.50    Window Master.................20.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    Windoware.....................16.50
 Learning Adventure (New!).....19.00    Windows 1993..................28.00
 Library of the Future #1......54.50    Windows Shareware Gold........37.00
 Lion's Share..................27.00    Wing Commander II Deluxe......58.00
 Loom..........................25.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........39.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......25.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    WizPak........................17.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    World Atlas MPC...............29.00
 Magnum One Shareware..........29.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Manhole.......................37.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Marketing Master 1992.........19.00    World Traveler (New!).........18.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World View....................24.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............35.00    World Vision 3-Pak (New!).....47.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......58.00    Wrath of the Demon............38.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1034
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/20/93  1:20a
Subj: EROTIC CD'S TRADE FOR $$$               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------

 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 Animation Fantasies 1.........29.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Animation Fantasies 2.........29.00    Porkware 2 (New!).............37.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Busty Babes...................33.00    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........29.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Erotic Encounters.............36.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Exotic Girls (Closeout).......25.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Giffy Gold ("R"-rated)........39.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........59.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................34.50    Smutware......................32.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................34.50    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................34.50    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............34.50    Storm 2.......................30.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......28.00    Storm 3.......................31.00
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Storm 3-Pak...................75.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....65.00    Swimwear & More (New!)........29.00
 Nightwatch Interactive (Wow!).65.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 PC-PIX 1......................30.00    Tropical Girls (Closeout).....25.00
 PC-PIX 2......................30.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 PC-PIX 3......................30.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 PC-PIX 3-Pak..................79.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA þ MC þ AMEX þ DISCOVER þ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs þ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: WADE NORTON                            Number: 1035
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/19/93  6:02a
Subj: Re: CD WINBOX - GET ONE!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> ATTENTION WINDOWS USERS!  Looking for THE BEST Windows shareware CD?
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> FROM THE MAKERS OF CD-POWERBOX . . . . . CD WINBOX 1.0 IS HERE!
 
> SPECIAL 2-DISC OFFER:  CD WINBOX + CD POWERBOX . . . (no dupes). . .
> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892
 
> þ SLMR 2.1a þ The magic of Windoze: Turning a 486 into an XT.
> * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR
 
Mike,
 
Rather a poor time for your TAG line isn't it.  I would say it is a bit
innapropriate(sp) considering you're TRYING TO SELL a Windows disk.
 
Wade

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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 1036
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 06/20/93  7:45a
Subj: YOUR AD - INFO PLEASE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Lois; What I'de like to know is REALLY what's in the 4 disc's below.
 > Complete Bookshop.....Reader's Library... Reference Library......
 > Desktop Bookshop (New!)..


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From: ZACHARY ELWYN                          Number: 1037
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/20/93  5:21p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I recently purchased a copy of 7th guest for my computer.
 
I'm running a 486 33 VESA local bus w/ a cirrus logic 1MB video card, 4MB of
RAM, a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 all connected w/ a Seagate WREN 9 (2.2
Gigabyte) hard drive w/ a Adaptech 1542C SCSI II Controller.  The Demo will
run only in MCGA mode, and the actual program hangs at the command line
after starting the CD Audio section.  Anybody else have a similar problem??
 
Zachary Elwyn
Sysop, Critics Choice BBS
"The Stealth Sysop"
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From: JERRY MASON                            Number: 1038
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/20/93  8:07p
Subj: Speical intro offer                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris,  How about posting an address.  I will gladly send a SASE for a list
of your CD Roms and prices.
           Thanx,

     Jerry Mason


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From: CHRIS BARRETT                          Number: 1039
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/20/93 11:24a
Subj: Florida Lion's Den In                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Great question, but I feel some of these shareware authors are trying
 > to keep the "Floppy DisK" industry type distribution alive--It used
 > to be a big industry years ago and it is now a dying breed as a
 > result of the volumn of shareware available on CD-ROM--Plus, the
 > authors feel we publisher's benefit more the they, I suppose--Really
 > never had any real confirmation to why these 46 authors hate people
 > like me. If I do find out, I will relay it in this echo for sure !

    By the sounds of this message you are a producer. Just curious, but are
you and all you fellow producers ASP approved? That could explain why these
authors are upset. I can't recall ever seeing a ASP approved sticker on any
of the CDs I have, yet I see them on the 3.5s and 5.25s all the time.

                                                Chris

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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 1040
  To: ROB WILLIAMS                             Date: 06/19/93 10:39p
Subj: Cd-Rom Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                  *****  Quoting Rob Williams to All  *****

 RW> Toshiba CR-ROM drive for sale
 RW> Model XM-3100B
 RW> Internal Unit, no SCSI controller
 RW>
 RW> I have been unable to make this work consistantly with my Amiga, and
 RW> cannot determine if the drive is good, or my setup is messed up.  I did
 RW> see it work on the system of the guy I bought it from.
 RW> $50, no warranty, expressed or written.
 RW> If interested contact:  Rob Williams, (309) 688-4276

Rob, is it true SCSI (i.e., 50-pin) or proprietary ?  Any idea of access time
and or xfer rate? MPC or PHOTO-CD?  May be interested depending on the above.
Interested in any trades?  I have a Seagate ST-251-1 42M MFM (5.25" HH, 28ms)
to offer depending on specs.  Thanks in advance.

.\\ark



 
... "Superior ability breeds superior ambition"  -- Spock, stardate 3141.9
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1041
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/20/93 10:48a
Subj: Speical Intro Offer                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BO> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$   ALL NEW  SOFTWARE VAULT II  $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
 BO>                           Price - $25.00

Boris, COD me one of these discs, please.  Thanx

 * MKRead v1.01 * I used to be sane, but I got better


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1042
  To: NEIL ALLEN                               Date: 06/20/93  7:02p
Subj: Low Low CDROM Prices Con                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 NA>         Could you list your address where to send 
 NA> for CD's and the proper
 NA> amount for Shipping & Handling to Canada?
 
Add $5 shippin by ground for up to 3 CDs.  
 
 NA>         Do you have any adult Interactive software on cd's?

Yes...call my BBS at 615-478-2890 and download ADULT.ZIP.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1043
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 06/20/93  7:05p
Subj: CD WinBox User Manuale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DP> Damar Enterprises has just released a 
 DP> professionally bound USER MANUAL to its 
 DP> distributors and dealers.  This USER MANUAL covers 
 DP> all the file descriptions 
 DP> found on the BRAND NEW CD WinBox.  A complete FILE 
 DP> INDEX allows you quick 
 
Oh yeah? <g>.  Will I get some when I guy the Winbox for resale from my
distributor?

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1044
  To: MARC FONTENOT                            Date: 06/20/93  7:11p
Subj: Looking For Cd-Rom Softw                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MF> I am looking to start up a bbs in the Houston area 
 MF> in the comming weeks,
 MF> and I am looking for a good "all-purpose" CD-Rom 
 MF> disk.  I do not want to
 MF> have any adult stuff on the bbs, just good, 
 MF> hopefully current files.  If
 MF> anyone has a catalog of prices and maybe a few suggestions, please
 MF> answer on this echo or send a catalog to:
 MF>                               The Liberals NIghtmare BBS
 MF>                               14365 Cornerstone VIllage DR
 MF>                               Apt. 1708
 MF>                               Houston, TX  77014
 
I can help you there.  The Nightowl 8 is an excellent choice for $26.95.
There is also the new Software Vault 2 for $25.  Pier 1 is also a good one
for $26.95.  They all contain a broad spectrum of shareware including things
like games, utilities, Windows programs, etc.  There are also specialty CDs
out like CD Winbox that is all Windows files, or Games 1993 that is all
games, etc.  These all contain current stuff and are BBS ready.  There is no
adult material on any mentioned.  I have all 3 of the shareware mentioned in
stock as well as many others.  If you'd like to place an order for one, call
us at 800-547-7817.  You can download our catalog from our BBS at
615-478-2890 also.  Look forward to hearing from you.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1045
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 06/20/93  7:19p
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

This was an interesting message over on RIME:
 
22385 ns
 
Date: 06-17-93 (23:37)              Number: 22385 of 22411 (Refer# NONE)
  To: ALL
From: MICHAEL MATHEWS
Subj: PIER 2 From MARKetplace  
Read: (N/A)                         Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Conf: CDROM (67)                 Read Type: GENERAL
 
Have you paid for the PIER 2 CD-ROM but STILL do not have it?  Read
on...and reply...I have an attorney interested in hearing your side of
the story...
 
From what I can gather from Mark Abachie, The MARKetplace purchased 80
PIER 2 CD-ROM discs directly from Greg Armenia on 21 May 1993.  40 of
those CD-ROM discs were held and not shipped to The MARKetplace.  Greg
Armenia has been paid for ALL of the discs, but will not ship the
balance of them to The MARKetplace (for reasons unknown to any party
involved).
 
I purchased the PIER 2 CD-ROM disc from The MARKetplace on 17 May 1993.
It is now 17 June.  I still do not have the disc.  Earlier this week I
spoke with Greg Armenia on the phone and was amazed at how overtly rude
and obnoxious he was.  At this point I am quite sure that I will not be
doing any more business with PIER Software.
 
What I would like to do is compile a listing of people who are involved
with this incident, talk with you individually, and see what line of
action we can take to remedy the problem.
 
Your cooperation in this matter would be greatly appreciated.  I am
looking forward to getting this situation resolved quickly and to NEVER
having to deal with PIER again.
 
cc:     Greg Armenia ->PIER1
        Mark Abachie ->MARKETPLACE
        State Attorney General - New York (via US Mail)
        Buffalo Better Business Bureau (via US Mail)
        Public Message to ALL in CD-ROM and Sysops For Sale
        Public Message to ALL in several Usenet Newsgroups
 
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Internet E-Mail: mr.mike@ozonehole.com  PostLink: ->OZONEHOLE or ->1190
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(H)elp, (22227-22411), Message Read Command? 

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1046
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 06/20/93  7:24p
Subj: Pier II                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JH> Just like the last one I bought, 2 weeks later I 
 JH> found it for 15 dollars less!
 JH> I remember when Nightowl 8 was advertised for $69.00??
 JH> Well look what it sells for now! 

 JH> How about last years Ferrari? 

And don't forget that version 6 was going for over $100! <g>  Competition
from others in the authoring business has driven their prices down.

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From: ROBERT LEE                             Number: 1047
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/20/93  3:03p
Subj: Maximus BBS-specific CDRom Door         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you are interested in a CDRom door for your Maximus BBS that really saves
HD space, configuration time, bypasses the need to FB your CD's, allows
users to extract and read zipped files, add a BBS AD stamp to your outgoing
files from your CDRom, and a WHOLE LOT MORE, then...

F'Req CDMXDOR2.ZIP (185k) from 1:232/31 or call New Century BBS
(309)797-6027 and download it.  Long distance users have files access on
their first call.  You can also see the CDRom door in action if you call NCB
if you're interested in what it looks like and what it does.

CDMXDOR2.ZIP (185k) @ 1:232/31

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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1048
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 06/20/93  5:14p
Subj: cd-roms                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am very interested in the Hitachi cdr-3500 and I was wondering if you
would consider a logitech hand scanner with 400dpi a fair trade.
Please give me a call at (206) 762-0429. 


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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1049
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 06/20/93  5:20p
Subj: cd roms                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I was wondering if you would consider a Logitech hand scanner a fair
trade for your HitachiCDR-3500.  Please get back to me at (206)-762-0429


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1050
  To: CAM LERCH                                Date: 06/20/93  9:15a
Subj: 4 EXTERNAL CD DRIVES $600               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


CL> Hello.. Would you be willing to sell "1" of these drives? I need
 CL> a old one for my BBS and these sound like what I need.. Can you
 CL> please discrib the detaile
 CL> information about them (Price etc..) please drop me a message..
  
  
 Yes !  I'll sell one or as many as I have.   If you are running a
 bbs these are great deal at $130 each.  You will need a TDCIF8
 controller card.  I have them for $60 and they will run up to 4
 of these drives. Call 205-824-2552  or 205-824-4029 if something
 is wrong with the first number.  I'm changing houses and the
 phone co. may leave me stranded for a day or two.
 
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From: BEN NATION                             Number: 1051
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 06/21/93 11:52a
Subj: nix pix hot pix 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JS> Any chance of these getting into the $50 range? If so, 
 JS> Then I'll get one. :)
 JS> ---
 JS>  * Origin: *THE CRIB* Freeport,IL >Telepath 14.4 
         Sorry the cheapest I can get it is $75, everyone else is selling
them around $100 plus shipping and handling. I can at least save you $25, and
send it for another $3.00, first priority, 2nd day air instead of $10 Fed
Express.
call me voice, 904-779-7994, if you change your mind. 
If you'd like a 2nd assurance, send a note to: Carlos Benitz, I just sent him
a copy which he received in good condition.

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From: BEN NATION                             Number: 1052
  To: BILL DEERTZ                              Date: 06/21/93 12:01p
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  * Origin: Embedded BBS RA+RIP (214)727-2610 (1:124/6505)

 BD> Yes, you can run up to two  Mitsumi's on the same interface card.  I
 BD> have two and have been running them on a 2 node system for several

 sorry to but in, but I run 3, each using there own card. How can you run 2
on 1 card. I'd really be interested in learning your technique. At the most,
5 mitsumi's can be ran, if your able to run 2 from 1 card, just maybe 10
could be ran from 5 cards. Are you somehow splicing wires together?

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From: CHRIS FREYER                           Number: 1053
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/17/93 11:35p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>If you are looking for prices on the latest CD-Roms, give us a call or
JL>post your address in this echo.  We'd be glad to get you a catalog in
JL>the mail.  Thanks!

JL>                                                        Jim...
JL>Computer Works
JL>CD-Rom Sales!
JL>(205) 793-4481 Voice
JL>(205) 671-0092 BBS

Please send catalog--
Chris Freyer
4701 Secret Harbor Dr N
Jacksonville, FL  32257
___
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1054
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/22/93  8:45a
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: 4487
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> From what I can gather from Mark Abachie, The MARKetplace purchased 8
-> PIER 2 CD-ROM discs directly from Greg Armenia on 21 May 1993.  40 of
-> those CD-ROM discs were held and not shipped to The MARKetplace.  Gre
-> Armenia has been paid for ALL of the discs, but will not ship the
-> balance of them to The MARKetplace (for reasons unknown to any party
-> involved).

Huh?

Isn't Mark Abb*.* Pier's top distributor?  I know for a fact that Mark
has spent thousands of dollars promoting the Pier series, both in this
echo & in most of the major magazines.... And now he's being screwed?
I don't get it.... Why would a publisher shaft his top distributor?

Shareware CD ROM success recipe:

1.  Create a good product.
2.  Establish effective distribution.
3.  Establish effective distribution.
4.  Establish effective distribution.

Without steps 2-4, a product won't be promoted.  If a product isn't
promoted, the product won't sell.  If the product doesn't sell, nobody
makes money.  If nobody makes money, what's the use?

tim
moderator
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From: JIM REED                               Number: 1055
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/21/93  9:58a
Subj: INFO WANTED!!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ> LN> an information source encyclopedia of sorts--This reference will
BJ> LN> available on CD-ROM in windows format for sale around July 31st.

Hi Lee;
      Only WinDoze Version?
                        /JIM/

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From: STEVE LEU                              Number: 1056
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/20/93 12:10a
Subj: Wanted: Sony CDU-541                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for Sony CDU-541 internal SCSI drives (new or used).  Please
reply
back if you have any for sale.

Steve
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From: JEFF NEWMAN                            Number: 1057
  To: BEN NATION                               Date: 06/21/93  8:54a
Subj: Re: nix pix hot pix 1                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BN> the cd-rom that I use is the mitsumi brand. 350K transfer model.

 Ben, thanks for the update.

-Jeff NOPCCCC

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From: VERNON MELTON                          Number: 1058
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/19/93  3:44p
Subj: Re: NEW CD'S FOR JUNE!!!!!!!!           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                    -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

 MS> KODAK PHOTO CD - Photo CD Access software w/ sample
photos...........27.50 LEARNING ADVENTURE -
Mike,
I have a Sony CDU7205 CD-Rom Drive and would like to know, if you know, if
this drive Kodak Photo CD compatible.  If it is I will order the above
CD-ROM from you.  Thanks in advance for your help.
Later,
      Vernon Melton
 
... .....and never, ever cut a deal with a dragon!
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From: DON RIEB                               Number: 1059
  To: KENNETH WATTS                            Date: 06/19/93  3:51p
Subj: Re: CHEAP CDROM DRIVE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KW>     How about a few specs on that drive.  Brand name,seek time,transfer 
KW> rate.  Is it mpc compliant? Not necesary but would be nice.  Just let
KW> me know.

Brand Name: Tandy CDR-1000 $149   -  $199 at Radio Sack
Works with all PC's
Transfer Rates:
150ks MODE 1
175ks MODE 2
Seek time:
600ms
MPC NO

This drive is good for anyone that can not afford a expencive 350ms drive.
It will work fin on a BBS but be aware that you have to have one card for
ecach drive (Supplied).

SaveWare
Call Don at 708-657-1160 or log onto the BBS at 708-724-2427
as new or use the Guest pass of Name: CD ROM  Password: CD ROM
If it asks for age or phone number put all 0's.
Sysops with Front door mailers can freq 1:115/724

Download CDROMCAT.ZIP and HARDCAT.ZIP from file base #2.

Sysops freq the best ANSi door out "ANSIGAL*.ZIP"  Ansi gal 1 and 2.

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From: IAN LEVSTEIN                           Number: 1060
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/21/93  4:46a
Subj: Sony 31A & SBPro                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'd like to hook up the audio output of my new Sony 31A to my SoundBlaster
Pro, but it seems that the audio cable connectors are not compatible.  Any
suggestions?


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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 1061
  To: BILL DEERTZ                              Date: 06/21/93 12:59a
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

|BD> Yes, you can run up to two  Mitsumi's on the same interface card.  I   |
|BD> have two and have been running them on a 2 node system for several     |
|BD> months with no problems.  The following are excerpts from my config.sys|
|BD> and autoexec.bat files:                                                |
|BD>                                                                        |
|BD> DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 \DEV\MTMCDD.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:0  |
|BD> /M:5 /I:5                                                              |
|BD> DEVICE:C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 \DEV\MTMCDD.SYS /D:MSCD002 /P:310 /A:0  |
|BD> /M:5 /I:2                                                              |
|BD>                                                                        |
|BD> AUTOEXEC.BAT                                                           |
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Bill

Let me see if I can understand this.....you say you have two Mitsumi
CD-ROM Drives running from one interface card.  Given the IRQ choices,
I take it for granted that you are using the LU002 600ms drives or
worse.  I have this setup in my system that I will be putting online
soon.  The thing that I can't figure is how, in your config.sys, you
are able to assign a different IRQ to each drive, when in fact the
IRQ's are set on the interface card....and you can only use one IRQ
per interface card.  Please explain!

For others interested in this setup.....everything in Bill's
Config.sys and Autoexec.bat does work when you are using two drives
and two interface cards.
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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 1062
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 06/21/93  1:05a
Subj: Old Mitsumi's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

|JH> EE> Fax:301-963-2708 or email eengelmann@worldbank.org (Mitsumi 600ms  |
|JH> EE> CD-ROM drives, that is).                                           |
|JH>                                                                        |
|JH> Hi Eric,                                                               |
|JH> Thanks for the reply, sounds like a pretty good deal, but I            |
|JH> have seen them advertised for $90.00 each.                             |
|JH> If you would be willing to sell them for that I would buy three of them|
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
No you haven't......you have seen the 800ms Tandy - Mitsumi CD-Rom
Drives for $90.  I only wish I had waited.....just bought two of this
drive at $130 each.
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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 1063
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 06/21/93  1:09a
Subj: Wiz-Pak CD-Rom                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

|MB> I have one new, unused copy of Wiz-Pak 6 pack from                     |
|MB> wizardware.  It is supposed to have over 170 programs, from            |
|MB> VGA painting to photos and arcade games.  This disc will               |
|MB> not work on a Mitsumi drive [guess what kind I have!].  I              |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Have you tried calling WizardWare?  I saw them at Comdex and have
their fliers around here somewhere if you need the number.  I'm sure
they would trade it.....I guess I am lucky I didn't pick this title up
while there, guess what kind of drives I have.
___
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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 1064
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/22/93  2:55a
Subj: CD-WORLD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                           CD-WORLD
     CD-WORLD              Price list       For on-line orders call
     2650 Wedgefield RD    June  1993       The BBS at 803-481-7149
     Sumter SC 29154                        Voice 803-481-2276
                                            FIDO 1:3647/2
    ==================================================================

                             NEW TITLES

    CD WinBox                                           $30.00
    The CD Winbox is a 600+ meg CD-ROM packed full of Thousands of the
    latest Windows Shareware files!! Promises to be one of the Best
    Windows Shareware CD's out. BBS Ready!!

    CICA Windows Apr 93                                 $22.00
    This CD Rom contains the entire CICA Windows collection from
    Indiana University, Hundreds of Megabytes of Microsoft Windows
    programs including utilities, screen savers, backup and restore
    programs, games, demos for commercial programs, icons and
    bitmaps, source code listings and programming tools. BBS Ready!

    Games 93                                            $29.00
    6,000 files. 500 meg of the Best in shareware games!! Tetris
    clones, Lotto, Casino, Sports, V.G.A. Arcade, Flight simulators
    and best of all, BBS Ready!!!!!!!!!!!

    House of Games                                      $29.00
    EGA, VGA, and SVGA Games. Play the Best of Shareware games off The
    CD. Not BBS Ready!!

    PCX PotPourri, Encyclopedia of Clipart              $30.00
    11,000 Files, 51 Directories, 500 meg, New color clips, 65 Adult
    clips. Keyword Search. BBS Ready!!

    Sci Fi Fantasy                                      $29.00
    All right all you Trekkies and Sci Fi Sysops. This is what you
    have been waiting for!! Star Trek, Star Wars, Fantasy, and D&D.
    1,200 VGA Pics. Over 100 sound files. BBS Ready!!!!!!!!

    Shareware 93                                        $29.00
    5,000 files, 620 meg. This cd contains mostly 1993 dated files.
    BBS Ready!!!!

    Shareware Studio Volume II                          $30.00
    Over 5,000 of the best shareware programs available! User friendly
    interface, 640 meg. A great followup to the very popular Shareware
    Studio Volume I. BBS Ready!!

    Simtel 20 April 93                                  $22.00
    This CD is an excellent addition to any BBS or private collection.
    It contains many Programing utils and many of the programs include
    the source code, Usually in C. Also contains great files to
    enhance your Commercial type programs.. BBS Ready!!!!



    Software Vault Collection II                        $30.00
    635 Meg. Over 1,200 files. Librarian let's you search/creates
    files for Sysops. Excellent Disk. The librarian sytem on this cd
    is an excellent choice for any Sysop. The only reason I did not
    Higly Recommend Collection I is most of you want the latest file
    dates. This one has mostly 93 files. I highly recommend this CD.
    Check it out!!! BBS Ready!!!!!!!!!

    Swim Wear 93                                        $29.00
    1,500 pics of Beautiful Women. V.G.A. Gifs 640x480 to 1024x768. If
    you have been seeking a PG13 cd of Gorgeous Ladies for your BBS
    then this is the one. BBS Ready!!!!!
======================================================================

                          New Adult Titles

    Digital Dreams                                      $30.00
    This CD is perfect for anyone desiring a Great "R" rated adult cd.
    All Gifs are simply nude models posing for your pleasure. No XXX
    pics included. Original Scans, 660 meg, Super VGA, BBS Ready!!

    Dirty Talk                                          $45.00
    A 35 minute full motion video of four gorgeous and seductive
    women! This is a full-motion color video (Not Loopscans) Watch as
    sexy Stephanie takes a seductive lotion bath. Experience the
    arresting side of Kinky Kimberly, More. Minimum System
    requirements are, 386-25, Dos 5.0 or higher, 2 meg of ram, SVGA,
    Mouse and a 500ms or faster CD drive.

    Hot Pix Volume 5                                    $40.00
    Great addition to the Hot Pix series. Directory 1 has general
    shareware files, Mainly pic viewers. The rest of the cd continues
    the Hot Pix tradition of Excellent adult entertainment, Not for
    the weak at heart, BBS Ready!!

    NightWatch "Interactive Adult Movie"                $45.00
    That's right! This is the first interactive full length adult
    movie!! You make the rounds with a Beautiful late night security
    guard as you check out the action in her complex!! This CD
    reguires Microsoft Windows to run!!
=====================================================================

                         CD-WORLD Specials!!

    CD PowerBox and CD WinBox                           $45.00

    Simtel 20 Apr 93 and CICA Windows Apr 93            $40.00

    Shareware Studio Volume I and II                    $45.00

    Software Vault Collection I and II                  $50.00

    My Private Collection I and II                      $75.00

    Storm II and III                                    $65.00
=====================================================================

    Many more titles at these great prices. Call my BBS at the number
    above and download CDWORLD.zip You can also freq this file from
    1:3674/2. Visa, Mastercard, and Discover card accepted. Shipping
    is $4.00 for prepaid or COD orders. CALL NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    David McSpadden CD-WORLD "World's Best Prices!!"


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From: MARC FONTENOT                          Number: 1065
  To: PETE CRESSWELL                           Date: 06/21/93  8:17p
Subj: Re: Looking For Cd-Rom S                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PC>   MF> ^AMSGID: 1:290/8.0 2c200fa4
 PC>   MF> I am looking to start up a bbs in the Houston area in the
 PC>   comming MF> weeks, and I am looking for a good "all-purpose"
 PC>   CD-Rom disk.

 PC> Watch out for PCSig12.   It sounds good in print, but when
 PC> you get it you find out that there's no ASCII index.   They
 PC> want another $24 for that...Sort of a BB license fee, I
 PC> guess.

Thanks Pete!  I have made a deal with a guy in Alabama,  I will buy the
CD-Rom So Much Shareware 2.  It is set up for a Spitfire bbs, and in
fact it is put out buy a Spitfire sysop!





MARC FONTENOT

... Dr. Jack Kevorkien for White House physician!
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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 1066
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 06/21/93 12:54p
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Wonderingwhat happened to your address so I could pay you for the Cream of
the Crop CD.
Or your phone number, if you take Vise/MC.

Vikki

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From: HOWARD ONEIL                           Number: 1067
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/21/93 12:32a
Subj: Lots Of Items For Trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am in desperate need of a 80-100 Meg MFM, RLL or IDE Hard Drive and a Dot
Matrix Printer, Cdrom (Mitshumi Ok) and SVGA Mono or Color Monitor.

I have little cash, so, following is an UPDATE of items I'd TRADE  for them.

ITEM 1 : Omega 120,000 Volt Stun Gun  (One TRADED, 1-remaining).

        FEATURES : Seperate On/Off Switch for safety, using two
                   9 Volt Alkaline or Rechargable Batteries. It will
                   disable a 300 pound person in 6-seconds, has Belt
                   Clip for carry.  "To see EXACTLY what it's like
                   see Batman Returns (the Movie)."  Excellent Cond.

                             Not a cheapie, Cost $100.00

ITEM 2 : Akai Integrated Stereo Amp  (Good Condition & works like new).

        FEATURES : Dual Tape inputs, magnetic phono & tuner inputs,
                   Subsonic Filter and has 45 Watts RMS per channel.

                   GREAT FOR A PERSON OFF TO COLLEGE

ITEM 3 : Mitsubshi 1.2 Meg 5 1/4" floppy. (Excellent Condition, 
                   Pulled from working system & stored). GRAY

ITEM 4 : DAEWOO 2 head VHS Video Tape recorder with remote. (10-months).

        FEATURES : Remote programming, Day, Date, Time & Speed.
                   All features programable from remote or unit.
                   Direct Cable compatability or Line recording.
                   Excellent condition.  Cost $189.00

ITEM 5 : MAGNAVOX 2 head VHS Video Tape recorder with remote. (10-months).

        FEATURES : On screen programming, Day, Date, Time & Speed.
                   Direct Cable compatability or Line recording.
                   Very Good condition.  Cost $269.00

I would like to trade these items individually or together for the following.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Looking for : 1) Working Dot Matrix Printer.  Wide carriage wanted.

              2) 80 Meg MFM Hard Drive (Seagate 4096) to 120 meg.,
                 IDE w/controller, or comparable RLL drive.

              3) VGA Mono or Color Monitor, with 800x600 resolution
                 minimum.  Brand unimportant, must work well though.

              4) Mitsumi or other brand CD ROM drive w/controller.

All items I've listed are in VERY GOOD to EXCELLENT condition. Those offered
in trade should be in same and guarenteed against D.O.A.  Please, NO CASH
OFFERS! I can pay some cash in addition to trading the items above for
certain items listed, according to what is offered.


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From: HOWARD ONEIL                           Number: 1068
  To: ERIC ENGELMANN                           Date: 06/21/93 12:35a
Subj: Mitsumis for $110                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi !

I'm interested in getting one of the Mitshumi drives at $110.00 that you
advertized.  Leave an address where I can send a money order.  

Oh!  Do these include a controller and if not, do you have any and how much
are they?

Howard


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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 1069
  To: BRYAN SPEED                              Date: 06/20/93 11:25p
Subj: Pier 2 Desc.,RA BBS                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BS>So...after many hours... I have available, for FREQ, a zip file of edited 
  >descriptions usable on RA. These are the PcBoard style descriptions with
the 
  >file size, and date removed. It imports correctly. 
 
 I bet you had as much fun doing that as I did putting the comma in the 
night owls 6 file size when I got that disk.  Then I found out that 
there was a utility that does it for me in a couple minutes instead of 
my manually doing it in hours.  Also, there is a utility that'll take 
the date & size out!  Next time you get a CD, let me know and I'll let 
you FREQ the utility that should do all the work for you! 
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From: CHRIS YEAGER                           Number: 1070
  To: JIM HUSBAND                              Date: 06/21/93 11:15a
Subj: MITSUMI QUESTIONS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jim Husband wrote in a message to Carlos Avellanet:

|CA>      No it does not. You can only install OS/2 2.1 direct from CD-ROM t|
JH> +---------------------------------------------------------
JH> -----------------+
    To whom concerned:

Incorrect.... I have a batch file for a copy to a HD and install from HD..
real simple editor will change config to look for the directory needed..
write if you need the file .... Personally I like the install with the
fernwood driver much more simplistic.. But very funny watching a install from
a 8mls HD compared to 20 disks for 2.0GS  {About 3mins or less! HAHAHA....}

..Chris {1:203/8055}

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1071
  To: BILL DEERTZ                              Date: 06/21/93  5:50p
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -> Does the Mitsumi $200 dollar drives allow more than one drive to be i
 BD> Yes, you can run up to two  Mitsumi's on the same interface card.

And how, may I ask, do you physically connect 2 mitsumi drives to the same
controller card?

 * MKRead v1.01 * I am Homer of Borg and you will be assiOOOOOOO,
Doughnuts!!!


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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1072
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 06/21/93  5:54p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-sale or trad               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SP> I have Physical Therapy to trade.  If you are interested, reply
 SS> I'm interested, but I don't know anything about this CD..?  Is it

Physical therapy is a very good general mix-up of different rez gifs and
animations.  It IS an exacct duplicate of XXX Extreme, though, so if you have
the latter, it would not be a good choice.  It is a very good disc to add to
a collection otherwise.

 * MKRead v1.01 * I am Popeye of Borg.  You will be askimilgrated.


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From: DON NAST                               Number: 1073
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/21/93 11:24p
Subj: PAS                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Have a friend who is having difficulty getting his Windows audio CD  player
to work with Pro Audio and Windows 3.1....for some reason the MCICDA.DRV
driver supplied with windows does not work....is there another driver from
PAS??
>don<
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From: MIKE MCGUIRE                           Number: 1074
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/21/93  4:22a
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On Jun 19 23:38, Terry Woodward of 1:369/14 wrote:

MS>>We have the Digital Dreams adult CD's in stock now.  Last time I 
MS>>talked to you, you expressed some interest.  Price is $29.  Gimme 
MS>>a call!

I just walked in on this, more info please...Phone #, Payment Options,
Address, etc..... 

Mike..........

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From: ADAM GILBERT                           Number: 1075
  To: ERIC ENGELMANN                           Date: 06/22/93 12:33a
Subj: Mitsumis for $110                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Are you taking trades?  If you are I'll give you a 40meg IDE hard drive and a
20mb MFM hard drive.  Both are in perfect working order and have no bad
sectors.
Give me a call if interested.
VOICE: (515)221-9840 9am-10pm
BBS: (515)221-9859 24hrs.

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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 1076
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/21/93  8:00p
Subj: Pier 2????                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

This note is to the customers and prospective customers of The
MARKetplace, who either have pre-ordered the PIER Shareware #2 disk, or
are considering ordering from The MARKetplace!

On Wednesday, May 19, 1993 we sent a check in the amount of $2050.00 to
the Pier Exchange, for an order of 100 of the new Pier #2 CDROM disks +
$50 for shipping over night via UPS red service.  The check was received
by the PIER Exchange on May 20th, 1993 and was paid by our bank on May
21st.

The disks were supposed to be in the Pier Exchange's hands on Friday,
May 21st, however, due to a delay with the manufacturer, the disks did
not make it to the publisher.  On Monday, in the late morning, I phoned
Mr. Greg Armenia and asked him if the disks had come in, and he stated
that they had.  I asked him if they would be shipped that day, and he
stated that they would.

At approximately 5:00pm Eastern time, we received an emergency break in
call through one of our business lines from Mr. Armenia.  He stated that
his "bank had notified him" that our check had not cleared.  Knowing
that this was completely impossible, I informed him that he must be in
fact mistaken.  However, he persisted with his statements that "the last
time this happened, (the bank had notified him of a 'problem' with a
check) that the check had in fact bounced.  Now mind you, we have been
in a business relationship with this gentleman for several months, and
have written SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS of company checks to him... always
PRE PAID for his disks.. and NEVER has he had a problem with our checks.
Nor has ANYONE else for that matter!

However, to stifel this conversation, while on the line with Mr.
Armenia, I had an associate call our bank, and verify that the check had
in fact cleared our bank, meaning that it had been paid to Mr. Armenia's
account.  As suspected, our bank confirmed the fact that he had cashed
the check, and that it had in fact been paid to his bank in full
for $2050.00 on May 21st.

Mr. Armenia still apparently still didn't believe me... therefore, since
it was already after 5:00pm on the East Coast, and we NEEDED the disks
to be shipped that night, I gave him my Social Security number (as one
of the officers of The MARKetplace this is required to receive account
information) and my banks phone number.  I instructed him to call them
and pose as ME... and ask if this particular check had cleared.

After about 10 minutes, he called me back, and stated that the check had
in fact cleared.  I told him that I expected my disks to be shipped that
evening via UPS RED overnight service.  He said, "You'll get your
disks", and hung up the phone.

On Tuesday, May 25, 1993, UPS delivered a box via Overnight service from
the PIER Exchange.  Upon opening the box, I found only 60 of my 100
disks WHICH I PREPAID!  Still being quite upset at having both my
personal honor, and our company's integrity being questioned the
previous evening.... I called Mr. Armenia and stated the following:
"Greg, I assume there was a mistake yesterday, and that I'll have 40
more disks on my doorstep tomorrow.... Right?"

It was at this time that Mr. Armenia stated "NOPE"!  At this time, I
asked why not, and what was his reasoning!  He stated that the disks
were on backorder.  I asked him if he had enough disks to ship me, and
he said that he did.. however, that he had shipped 60% of my order, and
that was all that I was going to get for "a few weeks".  I inquired as
to his reasons for not filling the entire order... and at this time he
told me.. and I quote... "Mark, I know all about your' little scheme"...
I asked him what he was talking about... He said, "I have customers
cancelling their orders, because of your little post card to your
previous customers, allowing them to buy my disk for $39.00"... It
should be noted at this time that Mr. Armenia had been informed previous
to our sending out the cards as to their content, and the "special"
price to our previous customers.  I simply asked him at this time,
"Yeah, so? why aren't you sending my other 40 disks".  He stated that he
didn't want the disk sold this cheap!  (It should also be noted that Mr.
Armenia is selling the disks for $39.00 in the RIME SYSOPS FOR SALE
echo.. AND he is giving free shipping.. making the disks even cheaper
than ours!)  I informed him that I expected my disks immediately, as 60
disks didn't allow me to fulfill my pre orders completely.  He stated
that it would be weeks before I saw the 40 disks, and furthermore that
we would never touch another one of his products again after that.  I
told him that I expected either the disks, or the $800 for the disks
to be refunded immediately, and he stated that he would not send the
money back, and it would be "at least a couple of weeks" before I got
the disks.  Furthermore, he stated, "You won't have your hands in MY
son's cookie jar again".. whatever that is supposed to mean.

SOOOOOO...... we sent 60 of you nice folks who ordered the disks from us
your disks..... The rest of you.. well.. you are the C.O.D.'s and we
have tried to get a few disks from other dealers.  Apparently, the only
dealer who has the disks right now is Mike Shannon at Star Vector.. he
ordered and received an initial shipment of 50 disks.  He agreed to
sell us 10 disks at $45.00 each.. so we can sell them to you for $39.00
in order to fill our orders.  We really appreciated the offer.. but
we'll have to work something else out.

What caused this?   WHO KNOWS!  When will we get either our money back,
or our shipment of disks.. well.. again, who knows.  No one is out any
money other than us.  The Pier Exchange has $800 of our dollars, or 40
of our disks, however you choose to look at it.  Don't worry.. we'll do
everything we can to keep our promises to  you... our VALUED customers.
Unfortunately, this situation is beyond our control.

It's been over 30 days now since he cashed our check... and we are still
waiting.. no disks, no phone call, no letter telling us what's going
on.. no NOTHING..

The MARKetplace!



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From: TIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 1077
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/22/93  1:03a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE$                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

regarding Nix Pix I, your reply seemed somewhat short. <g>.. What's
wrong with it ? You carry all of the others...


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From: FRANK SPARKMAN                         Number: 1078
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/21/93  8:56p
Subj: RE: NIGHTWATCH INTERACTIVE!!!           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send me your CDROM catalog.
Frank Sparkman
812 W. Clover Rd. #85
Tracy, CA 95376

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From: FRANK SPARKMAN                         Number: 1079
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 06/21/93  9:07p
Subj: RE: Weekly Specials!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send me your latest catalog.
Frank Sparkman
812 W. Clover Rd. #85
Tracy, CA 95376

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From: ROB WILLIAMS                           Number: 1080
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/18/93  5:42p
Subj: CD Rom Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To all of those who called me on the CD Rom, thank you very much, however, it
is sold.  Normally I would return long distance calls, but there were so many
calls, that I just figured it would somewhat costly.  I do have all of your
phone numbers, and if the deal should fall thru (buyer is suppose to be
sending a check in the mail), I will be for sale again.  I will be out of
town, June 21-25.  If upon returning, the check has not arrived, I will
randomly call those who have responded, and the first person who I contact,
will have first crack at the drive.  Thanks again.  l8r!
Rob Williams

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From: DON DEMAERE                            Number: 1081
  To: SHAWN DOWNEY                             Date: 06/21/93  5:50p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Recently in an advertisement about DIGITAL DREAMS you wrote:

 SD> To Order This Amazing CD ROM Send A Cheque Or Money 
 SD> Order For $79US Funds To:

 SD>  SR Media
 SD>  P.O. Box 72138 G.L.P.O
 SD>  1600 - 90th Avenue S.W.
 SD>  Calgary, Alberta
 SD>  T2V 5H9

 SD> Sorry, We Don't Currently Accept Credit Cards. Money 
 SD> Order Payments Will Be
 SD> Shipped *SAME DAY*. Prices Do Not Include Shipping. We'll Ship However
You

Are you aware that Mike Shannon @ Starvector software offers the same CD for
$29US? That is $50US cheaper than your price. There is no Canadian duty on
data CDs, and even with the $5 nuisance charge assessed by Canada Post, I can
buy 2 CDs, and 2 caddies for less than you charge for 1 CD.

BTW, Mike accepts plastic, is very knowlegable, friendly, and ships same day
(at least for me and several others here in Fort McMurray). 

I only mention this because I am looking for a Canadian CD distributor that
desires to compete with the Americans. The only one I have found to date is
Vince Sorensen (sp?) in Regina. Unfortunately, he does not offer anything I
am currently looking for.

Bring your prices down and you won't have to target your ads to the
Americans. There are plenty of Canadians that feel like I do. Besides, at $79
only uninformed Yanks will want your disk.


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 1082
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/21/93  8:47a
Subj: Re:  INFO WANTED!!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <06-18-93 19:35> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>>  have the Adam Film World printed ....

BJ>> Didja think to ask 'em if
BJ>> they'd like an objective review? <GGG>

Nah, they are only release "Winners", and not one of their products ever
failed in the market yet--:) Hmmmm, wonder if I will get one :)

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 1083
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/21/93  8:54a
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den In               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <06-20-93 00:11> Darin Celino wrote:

DC>> BTW.....what is the expected release date of BB's successor?

BB II, we hope in August, seems all the new disc's won't make it out until
the late summer/fall time--But they are worth waiting for...

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: MATTHEW HUDSON                         Number: 1084
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/22/93  8:18a
Subj: Cd trade...                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


I will trade one of the following for either CICA Windows (Apr 93) or
Simtel 20 (Apr 93)...

Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective Vol I
World Atlas Ver 3.2.1
Ultima VI & Wing Commander.

All the docs are included...

LtF,

Matthew Hudson @ 1:18/14.4

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From: SABINE VAN DEN AUDENAERDE              Number: 1085
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/16/93  9:28a
Subj: Is this "service" ???                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Lee!

 > SV>> for a package deal on Pier1+2 & Night Owls 8 ... and maybe Busty
 > SV>> Babes ... I need to know all extra costs .....

 > I am the publisher of Busty Babes and I know there is a

Yes, I know ... And you are female as well? ... me too :)

 > company called Bestware, that has some left--They are
 > located in Belgium. This disc is out of print now because
 > of multiple lawsuits, so get one while you can because they
 > are tough to find and the prices are going up on them
 > because of there value now--

Haven't heard of Bestware yet! Zipcode & address ???
I rushed my order to Mahmut Kursun in Germany last sunday ...
I hope BB2 will we released very soon! Those CDROMS are *very* popular on
Belgian BBS's ! Can't understand why ;)))))))))

 > Good Luck,

Thanks! I also ordered The Encyclopedia of Clipart (one of your
publications!), from Mark Abbacchi! :) Will the picturebook be sold
seperately ?  BTW If you ever want one of your CDROM's reviewed in our
Belgian CDROM.B area, just drop me a line ;)

What other CDROM's did you publish or planning to?

 > -=*>Lee<*=-

Greetz,
Sabine

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From: MAX HILL                               Number: 1086
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/21/93  9:08p
Subj: WHAT'S MISSING                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                          BIG SKY ROM

          What you won't find on the "downloaders" ROM


 (a) 20 to 45 Mb of DEMO programs
 (b) Printer drivers dating from the stone age
 (c) BBS doors & BBS third party utilities
 (d) ICO's not compressed into 20k file archives
 (e) A dir with MEGABYTES of assembly code
 (f) Files not compressed with the new 204g zip(exe & etc excluded)
 (g) Archives that have not been scanned for virus
 (h) The same file unless the applications are different
 (i) Magazine & journals of why someone bought blah blah program
 (j) Copyrighted scans of commercial domain ie ,Disney,Batman etc.
 (k) Files that have not been downloaded at least 900 times in a
 15 month period.
 (l) A root directory so complicated you couldn't install it on the
 test drive of QMODEM.
 (m) Archives without fileID.diz
 (n) Video driver unless they're hard to get ie, out of country or
 defunct or upgraded.

            PRICE.............$48.00 THE DOWNLOADERS ROM
            VOICE 1-406-586-8344  FAX 1-406-586-3774
         VISA         MASTERCARD     COD  COMPANY CHECK
                We'll pay the shipping UPS blue
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From: DOUG STRIEFLER                         Number: 1087
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/20/93  8:16p
Subj: Cd rom burners                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone know of any good deals on cd rom burners

preferably the Phillips model

                    Thanks   Doug


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1088
  To: MIKE DICKERT                             Date: 06/21/93 12:22p
Subj: Question                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MD> just read about in this conference work without a bbs front end/  
 MD> type program?                                                     
                                                                       
  
I'm not sure what you mean by either "work" or "bbs front end/adapter". 
Not knowing how much you know about CDs in general, here's a simplistic 
answer to your query: If you have  a version of MSCDEX (the Microsoft 
driver that makes a CD drive look like a networked HDD) that's 
compatible with the rest of your system (i.e. DOS, Windows), and you 
have the correct driver software (from either the CD drive's manf. or 
elsewhere like Corel), then you can access the CD drive without any 
other "front ends" or "adapters".  That is, you may consider the CD 
drive to be like a giant floppy or a very slow HDD. Depending on the 
contents of the CD-ROM itself, additional software (like a GIF viewer or 
PKUNZIP) may be necessary to make things "work". Your turn... 
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 1089
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/20/93 11:40p
Subj: Encarta                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I've got a slightly used copy of Encarta (without registration card) for sale
for $170. If interested, call voice (301)924-3594.
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From: JIM SHARRER                            Number: 1090
  To: PAUL HAMMERSCHMIDT                       Date: 06/21/93 12:44p
Subj: Re: problem with a cd                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Thanks Jim... I was kinda sure that's what the problem was. Where did
-> you get yours cleaned "invasively"???

I did it.  Wasn't too hard really...just took a small air compressor to
it, and then cleaned the 'lens' of the laser.  It's worked fine ever
since.  Good luck with it.

...Jim...


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1091
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 06/21/93  5:25p
Subj: sellin' some Roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Another "cleaning out some of the stuff from my apartment so that I can
walk around without stepping on it" sale.

CDRoms for sale:

       CICA Windows (Dec)           $10.00
       US History                   $15.00
       Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00
       Battle Chess (not ehhanced)  $ 5.00
       Wing Commander I complete    $10.00
       Time Tables of History S+I   $15.00
       Ultima 1-6                   $20.00
       Toolworks game pack 1        $10.00
       Sherlock Holmes 1            $15.00
       Simtel 20 MSDos (Dec)        $10.00
       Masterpiece Library          $25.00
       Family Doctor                $25.00
       Greatest Books 150           $20.00
       NASA Voyager Image data      $10.00 /ea.
         (there are 12 of these, 3 for each planet voyager 1 and 2
          visited, 0% duplication of data between roms, over 7 GIG
          of image data, comes with disk containing software nedded
          to view images, which are in some strange NASA format, will
          sell set for $85)
       Garbo CD (MSDos/Mac)         $15.00
       Animals                      $20.00

Reply here or Netmail, whichever you prefer...


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1092
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 06/21/93  8:50p
Subj: $130 CD ROM DRIVES                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 
  Hitachi cd rom drives $130 each or...
  
  4 used Hitachi  internal  3500  drives  with  an  external  case,
  controller  card,  cables,  caddies,  screws,  drivers,  30   day
  warranty,  INCLUDING shipping in the US via  US  mail  AND  c.o.d
  charges   ...   ONLY     $600    total.      Call    205-824-2552
  
  Power supplies are available for $25,
  External cable is available for $30,
  2 nd day shipping is available for $25.
  Cream  of  the  Crop  Shareware  with  this   package   for   $25
  ...and/or other popular cd titles.
  
  This special  ends  July  1st  or  whenever  supplies  are  gone.
 
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1093
  To: VIKKI CLAYTON                            Date: 06/21/93  8:37p
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


VC> Wonderingwhat happened to your address so I could pay you for
 VC> the Cream of the Crop CD.
 VC> Or your phone number, if you take Vise/MC.
  
                               Terry Blount
                           187 S. Wintzell Ave.
                         Bayou La Batre, Al. 36509
  
 Sorry I don't take plastic.  I ship US Mail C.O.D. and they will
 notify you and give you 10 days to pick it up. My voice # is
 205-824-2552
 
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1094
  To: MAX HILL                                 Date: 06/23/93  6:46a
Subj: WHAT'S MISSING                          Refer: 4528
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->                           BIG SKY ROM
->
->           What you won't find on the "downloaders" ROM

Good for you <g>... Sounds like a great CD.

tim
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From: ROBBIE WILKES                          Number: 1095
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/22/93 12:27p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>We have the Digital Dreams adult CD's in stock now.  Last time I talked
MS>to you, you expressed some interest.  Price is $29.  Gimme a call!

Hey Mike,

Have heard good things about this CD, but don't remember the details.
Can you provide a little more information, as well as a total amount to
be pre-payed (incl. shipping, etc), and your address.  May be very
interested in taking one off of your hands.

Thanks,

Robbie Wilkes
(912) 471-8381 after 6:00pm EST

... CP [IR] * Do not attempt to traverse a chasm in two leaps.


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From: TONY D. BERRY                          Number: 1096
  To: KEVIN WILLIAMS                           Date: 06/22/93  3:30a
Subj: 7th Guest...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KW> I dunno what kind of drive it is, I was hoping someone could
KW> tell ME! I have 2 and that is the extra one I got with the deal.

What kind of drive is what? Please feel free to use the quote feature next
time as I have from 10-12 messages a day from this echo and cannot track the
topic of every message, sorry!

KW> Make me an offer or call my bbs at 627-2537
KW> The Pit for a quick reply..

Well, I am not in your state (which I am assuming is WA) and I really don't
know the area code (maybe 206?) but don't want to take a chance waking somone
up in the middle of the night, when I do my calling.

Please feel free to call me voice at (501) 521-5273 or my BBS at (501)
521-5276, 14400 v.32bis, 2+GB, 24 hours.

Tony D. Berry

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From: RICHARD VONZEL                         Number: 1097
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 06/21/93  9:15p
Subj: RE: OLD MITSUMI'S                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JH> Does anyone have any of the old 680ms Mitsumi's they want to
 JH> get rid of? I need three of them..


   I have 2 internal of them for sale, 175.00 each.. You can netmail me
   at 1:282/27.


... Oh never mind!
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From: RICHARD VONZEL                         Number: 1098
  To: CHARLES HART                             Date: 06/21/93  9:15p
Subj: RE: CD COMPARISONS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CH> Now, how about indicating the situation where the CD fails to
 CH> have all the files required to make a program useful on it?
 CH> Take Pier 2, as a classic example that I have and can relate a
 CH> sad experience from:

 CH>   COVIS2.ZIP     244202  11-19-92  Covis 2 of 2

 CH> Looks interesting, if you are into the Mathematics area -
 CH> right?  Now try to find Disk *1* of 2.  It's not there,
 CH> anywhere on the CD that I can find.  There are other examples,
 CH> but I think you get my point:

 CH> A product not done well should not be done at all, period!
 CH> Pier 2 is demonstrably not done well and someone should audit
 CH> the disk for these failures instead of praising the disk to the
 CH> high heavens.

 CH> Thanks for letting me get my 2 cents in......


  Thank you for your 2 cent's worth, you saved me 45.00. I was just
  about to buy that disk, I'm gald you foud that it's not a good disk..
  Sorry you wasted your money on it though...


RICHARD VONZEL

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From: DON RIEB                               Number: 1099
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 06/20/93  4:36a
Subj: Re: CDROM changer software              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TK>         Good luck with your drive.   BTW do you have Pier 2 yet? 
TK> anything worthwhile for bbs use? 

Thanks for the information on that Ezrom, it looks like it will work for me.

I have Pier 1, but I keep all the cd's current.  I will check Pier 2 out
and if it is then I will order some.

I have seen a lot of the sysops getting the Monster disk (2 disk set) and 
the Shareware Extravaganza (4 disk set) for there BBS's as it has no 
duplicate files or duplicate file bases.   Each disk has different file
bases so if you have 2 or 4 cd rom drives online it comes out realy optimized
in space, so you don't wast any with duplicates.  Also then you have a 
realy large amount of file bases that are not skimpy in size.  Download
CDROMCAT.ZIP from the SaveWare Computer Shopping BBS at 708-724-2427 or
FREQ it from 1:115/724.  

Thanks again for your help!!

** Don Rieb **
President of SaveWare

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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1100
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 06/21/93  7:59p
Subj: Hitachi 3500 internal                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Matt I am very interested in the Hitachi cd-rom drive and was wondering
if you would take $80 plus s/h or trade for a logitech hand scanner.
If we do deal I wouold need some help on finding a SCSI con. for the
critter.  Thanks chad (206) 762-0429 voice


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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1101
  To: KEVIN WILLIAMS                           Date: 06/21/93  8:02p
Subj: Toshiba XM 3301b                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like to  know some details about this cd rom drive.
    speed, size, come with SCSI con., price you are looking for etc.
Please call me at home (206) 762-0429


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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1102
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/21/93  8:16p
Subj: trade for cd-rom                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a LOGITECH HANDSCANNER that I would liketo trade for a cd-rom
drive (500+ms) or partial trade plus$ on a faster (350+ms) drive.
Please leave a message or call me at home at (206) 762-0429


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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 1103
  To: HOWARD ONEIL                             Date: 06/22/93  8:34p
Subj: Re: Lots Of Items For Trade             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 HO> I am in desperate need of a 80-100 Meg MFM, RLL or IDE Hard Drive
 
   I sell 120 Meg IDE HDs for $199 and 89 Meg IDE HDs for $179.If you are
 interested please reply.
                                Scott Petersen


... My other computer is a VAX.
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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 1104
  To: BEN NATION                               Date: 06/22/93 10:57p
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

|BN>  sorry to but in, but I run 3, each using there own card.              |
|BN> How can you run 2 on 1 card. I'd really be interested in               |
|BN> learning your technique. At the most, 5 mitsumi's can be               |
|BN> ran, if your able to run 2 from 1 card, just maybe 10 could            |
|BN> be ran from 5 cards. Are you somehow splicing wires                    |
|BN> together?                                                              |
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Ben

If you read his config strings it is obvious that he is using two
cards because he is using two different IRQ's.  Speaking of
IRQ's.....which Mitsumi drives are you running?  I have two LU002's in
one system and a LU005 in another.....seems the eight-bit cards of the
LU002's limit the number that can be installed.....becuase they only
allow IRQ's 2, 3, and 5 to be addressed.....and for most of us IRQ 2
is redirected to IRQ 9.....can IRQ 2 be used????
___
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 1105
  To: HOWARD ONEIL                             Date: 06/21/93 11:13a
Subj: Mitsumis for $110                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 HO> Hi !

 HO> I'm interested in getting one of the Mitshumi drives at
 HO> $110.00 that you advertized.  Leave an address where I can
 HO> send a money order.  

 HO> Oh!  Do these include a controller and if not, do you have
 HO> any and how much are they?
Send to EMS Professional Shareware, 4505 Buckhurst Ct., Olney MD 20832-1830
(we can also take credit cards by phone at voice:(301)924-3594.) The kits
includes a controller, but we only have two left, so I can't guarantee we'll
have one if you wait even a day. These are a closeout (no longer made) and I
can't get more.
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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 1106
  To: CHRIS CONKLIN                            Date: 06/22/93 12:49p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Haven't heard back from you about my CD for the game that didn't work.
Please reply.

Vikki

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 1107
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/22/93  1:45a
Subj: HELP... please!!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM, which I can not load the driver for now that I 
have upgraded to DOS 6.0...   Even with the SETVER installed, it stilkl 
gives me the "incorrect DOS version" error.  Anyone have any ideas???
                      Any info. will be GREATLY appreciated!  Shane

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 1108
  To: THE GUY WITH SO,STAREWARE                Date: 06/22/93  2:41a
Subj: I lost your name...sorry                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To who ever offered me the So Much Stareware in trade for the Storm II
CD-ROM, please get back to me.  I have decided to agree on the trade,
however I have lost your name and address <sorry>...  If this person
receives this message please respond...
                   Shane Snyder
                   286 Main St.  Apt #3
                   Greenville, PA  16125    (412)-588-9316
    ps.  I will ship as soon as you confirm, and leave me your address
                                           THANKS!!!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1109
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/22/93 12:03p
Subj: Cd-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JL> should probably get it before this message. Thanks for your inte  
                                                                       
  
Heresy! Heresy! To say, much less THINK that snail mail can outrun FIDO! 
You are hereby sentenced to listen to a CD (gotta stay on topic) of the 
mystic Gregorian chant: Owa Tagu Siam until you're repentent. (Film at 
11:00.)  (:> 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1110
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/22/93 12:10p
Subj: Me is Mike somebody                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS>   SLMR 2.1a   If it's British, it leaks.                          
                                                                       
  
We could have hours of fun with this! BTW: Throw in one of your $6 
shareware CDs with the PCX Potpourri package. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1111
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/22/93 11:42a
Subj: OINK OINK                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> Finally got those Porkware's back in.  Did you still want to rev  
                                                                       
  
Nope...don't have one. If you're still willing to "take a flyer", I am. 
Send it along with a copy of Lee's PCX Potpourri. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1112
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/22/93 11:43a
Subj: TOP 5 ADULT CD'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> seen a few that are more in the "NC-17" range.  (Don't you know   
 MS> outdated Bob?)  8)                                                
                                                                       
  
I haven't been out on a date in so long I can't recall!  "NC-17" sounds 
like something you'd put on athlete's foot. As an "adult" CD, I didn't 
find GG very appealing, but then one man's treat... 
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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 1113
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/21/93 10:57p
Subj: Looking for cd-rom softw                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi, does Night OWl 8 have a virus on it (i remeber some one talking about it
eariler, and i'm not sure if it is night owl)? Thanks


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From: BLAKE BARR                             Number: 1114
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/22/93 12:12p
Subj: CD-ROM Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!
        Does anyone out there have a used (Fairly new) cd-rom drive they want
to sell? I dont really care what brand, as long as it works without hassle.
It will be used on a bbs. Preferably External, but Interal will do. Dont
want to spend much. Already have one drive myself.

                                                        álake
                                                        Fire & Ice BBS!
                                                        (817)-698-6810

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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 1115
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/24/93  9:10a
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 1/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Howdy Mike,

What exactly is "Dictionaries and Languages"?  Does it include a
translater program?

Also, do you have access to National Lampoon's "rude chess"?

          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: ROB WILLIAMS                           Number: 1116
  To: CAM LERCH                                Date: 06/20/93 10:46a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry, it's sold.
Rob Williams

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From: BOB SPILLERS                           Number: 1117
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/22/93  8:17p
Subj: Which Is Best?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What are the advantages/disadvantages of a caddy/caddyless drive. I am
about two more questions from purchasing a CD ROM and this is one of
them. I have learned a lot just monitoring this echo and Ryan Denke also
gave me some very good info.  ITKU

                                        RwS____


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From: JIM TAYLOR                             Number: 1118
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/22/93  9:14a
Subj: Digital Dreams Review                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ok, folks in the past have indicated they liked reviews, so I have one
for ya.

I just got three disks, I will give a review on one of them now, and the
other two when I get a chance :-)

Digital Dreams Price $28 to $50:
I got this CD in the mail yesterday, and it was put together nicely. It
has discreet images, and a discreet label on the disk and the jewel case.
It looks as if there was hundreds of files in one big pot, then just
distributed into several sub directories. I couldn't really see any rime or
reason.  All the scans are tasteful, and would work on almost any BBS.
I do have some criticism with the scans though. The docs that came with it,
say that most images was scanned at 800x600 or 1024x768.  They could have
been scanned at that and reduced, some are that size, but the quality
is bad.  Maybe I shouldn't say bad, but sure is not as good as all the
other scans I have seen.  It looks as though the scans was done on a
cheap scanner, or the scans came from a scan of a magazine.  There are
tiny lines through out all the pictures, and the quality of the pictures
are generally average to poor.  I have a Nec 4fg, and I know good pictures
:-)  The beauty of the women, are from average to good looking.  I wouldn't
say any of them are great, nor would I say any of them are bad looking.

                  (( JT's Rating on a scale of 1 to 5: ))
"production" is the way the disk is put together, organized, including
             documentation, ect.
"price" is if the price is reasonable for what you get.
"Quality" in files, is how new the programs are, how many dupes, and general
          quality in the files.  In Gifs, it is how the pictures look in
          general, and the quality of the subject matter.
"Overall" Average of the above ratings.

Production: 4
Price:      4
Quality:    2
Overall:    3.3    on a scale of 1 (BAD!) to 5 (GREAT!)




Let me know if you like this type of review. I will try to keep them
constant.  I don't work for a CD company, and I don't sell CD's (unless
I'm trading with someone :-))  I'm just a sysop with several years
experience.


 * JTEDIT 1.0 * If this were an actual tagline, it would be funny.


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1119
  To: ED FORTIN                                Date: 06/23/93  2:00a
Subj: Re: CDROM DRIVE Specials                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >>  *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S

 >> Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare
 >> -$1199.

>>    Are these Canadian or US prices ? Do the prices include all
>>    taxes?

These are all US prices and the only thing not in the price is the
shipping.

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1120
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 06/23/93  2:00a
Subj: Re: Speical Intro Offer                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 BO>> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$   ALL NEW  SOFTWARE VAULT II  $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
 BO>>                           Price - $25.00

>>    Boris, COD me one of these discs, please.  Thanx

On it's way.....enjoy !!!

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1121
  To: JERRY MASON                              Date: 06/23/93  2:00a
Subj: Re: Speical intro offer                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Boris,  How about posting an address.  I will gladly send a
>>    SASE for a list of your CD Roms and prices.
>>               Thanx,

Jerry, our TOTALLY NEW CATALOGUE will be available soon. We will have it
on 3 1/2" disk's as well as a CD and on our BBS system.

We will begin shipping the above to all our cutomers first and then post
a message to ALL as to where one may obtain a copy of it.

This will not be just a catalogue as you will see as it will contain many
of the other computer products we handle as well.

So watch the echos for it's release.....and thank you for your interest.

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: MATTHEW MATHERS                        Number: 1122
  To: KEVIN WILLIAMS                           Date: 06/21/93  7:49p
Subj: Re: Toshiba XM 3301b                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KW> I just recently aquired on e of the things and want to sell it, It has
KW> never been used and has no cable's or packaging. I will take offers on
KW> it
KW> here. Again a TOSHIBA XM3301b Internal CD ROM DRIVE. I will entertain
KW> Trade offers as well
KW>  Kevin WIlliams

I am very interested in your Toshiba CD Drive!  Would you be willing to
trade for four 4MB SIMMS (80ns, 72-pin)?  If so, give me a call at (309)
788-5077, call my BBS at (309) 788-5069, or leave a message here.  Thanx!


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From: MATTHEW MATHERS                        Number: 1123
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 06/21/93  7:51p
Subj: Re: Hitachi 3500 internal               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB> Hi all,
MB> I have one Hitachi CDR-3500 internal CD-ROM for sale, with one caddy and
MB> the ribbon cable (no interface card) for sale or trade.
MB> The unit is in excellent condition, for $95.00 + shipping of your MB>
choice. This is only ONE unit, but I have several CDR-1503S externals MB>
available at only $106.00 (bare). Leave responses here, or NETMAIL to MB>
MEG*A*BITE BBS, Fido 1:239/675.  BBS # is (517) 892-5079 14.4 MB> Thanks
MB> Matt B.

If this drive is a SCSI cd-rom drive, I am very interested.  I would be
willing to trade a 4MB SIMM or 2 for it.  If you're interested, let me know.
 Thanx!


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From: MATTHEW MATHERS                        Number: 1124
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 06/21/93  7:57p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CL> How many MS is this drive.. How long have you had it for?
CL> What shape is it in?

MK> 1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure MK>
with
MK>   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and
MK> 90-
MK>   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00
MK> 2. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

I am very interested in both your CD's.  Would you be willing to trade for a
couple of 4MB SIMMS (4 of them for both CD drives).  These are 4x9. 80ns,
32-bit, 72-pin SIMMS.  If you are interested, let me know.  Thanx!


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From: MATTHEW MATHERS                        Number: 1125
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/21/93  7:59p
Subj: 4MB SIMMS trade for CDrom               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                            Best deal for 4MB SIMMS!

I have several 4MB SIMMS that I would like to sell or trade.  These simms
are 4x9, 80ns, 72-pin, 32-bit wide.  They can be used in the Amiga 4000,
most A1200 memory cards, and almost every accelerator board around.  Here is
my price list:

                          Quantity    Price
                          --------    -----
                             1         $100
                             2         $190
                             3         $275
                             4         $350
                             5+        $80 per SIMM

The current mail order price for these items are about $135.00 per SIMM so
you can see this is a very nice deal!  These SIMMS are guaranteed for 30
days after you receive them (no DOA).

I would also be willing to trade for computer hardware (SCSI hard drive,
SCSI tape drives, SCSI CD drives, monitors, whole computers, etc).  Let me
know what you have and we can work out some kind of deal.

If you are interested in getting some of these, call me at (309) 788-5077,
call my BBS at (309) 788-5069, or leave me a message here.  Thanx!


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From: JIM HUSBAND                            Number: 1126
  To: VERNON MELTON                            Date: 06/22/93  5:04p
Subj: FOR TRADE - MAGAZINEI                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

|VM>     I'll offer one (1) Sony Language's CD in trade for your's.  It is a|
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+

    Vernon,
    Sorry it took so long for me to reply. I haven't heard of the
Sony CD before. Does it simply translate typed text, or does it
also serve as a Language dictionary and/or Language tutor? I'd
appreciate any info.

                                                            Jim

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From: KEVIN WILLIAMS                         Number: 1127
  To: CHAD PATTERSON                           Date: 06/22/93  4:01p
Subj: Toshiba XM 3301b                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I don't know the speed or much about the drive, just the model number. It
came with the package. Are you still interested?

               Kevin Williams

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1128
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/22/93  5:58p
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Doug!

Sunday June 20 1993, Doug Carpenter writes to Mark Abbacchi:

 DC> This was an interesting message over on RIME:

That's the down-side to accepting pre-orders for any product.  I like Boris'
approach:  Accept orders after the product is looking you in the face.  ;-)

Later,

Dave.

... MORALITY cannot be defined by individual choice.

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1129
  To: TEJ DHAWAN                               Date: 06/22/93  6:00p
Subj: catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Tej!

Saturday June 19 1993, Tej Dhawan writes to Dave Reed:

 TD> I bought Night Owl from you a couple of months ago.. what new titles do
 TD> you have..?  Could you please Email or Snail Mail me a list?

I mailed it out last week, and hopefully you have it by the time you get this
message.

Later,

Dave.

... MORALITY cannot be defined by individual choice.

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1130
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 06/22/93  6:03p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9.0!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Mark!

Sunday June 20 1993, Mark Abbacchi writes to All:

 MA> Don't be the last on your block to get Night Owl 9.0!  The MARKetplace
 MA> WILL have this disk before 99.9% of the rest of the world!

That's what you said about Pier 2.  What happened?  ;-)

Later,

Dave.

... Don't blame me... I voted for Bush!

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1131
  To: WADE NORTON                              Date: 06/22/93  6:04p
Subj: CD WINBOX - GET ONE!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Wade!

Saturday June 19 1993, Wade Norton writes to Mike Shannon:

 >> ATTENTION WINDOWS USERS!  Looking for THE BEST Windows shareware CD?
 >> -+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--
 >> FROM THE MAKERS OF CD-POWERBOX . . . . . CD WINBOX 1.0 IS HERE!

 >> SPECIAL 2-DISC OFFER:  CD WINBOX + CD POWERBOX . . . (no dupes). . .
 >> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892

 >> þ SLMR 2.1a þ The magic of Windoze: Turning a 486 into an XT.

 WN> Rather a poor time for your TAG line isn't it.  I would say it is a bit
 WN> innapropriate(sp) considering you're TRYING TO SELL a Windows disk.

<ROFL>

... First Hillary, then Jennifer... now US!

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 1132
  To: CHRIS BARRETT                            Date: 06/23/93  2:47a
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den In               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <06-20-93 11:24> Chris Barrett wrote:

CB>>     By the sounds of this message you are a producer. Just curious,
CB>> but are you and all you fellow producers ASP approved?

Yes, I am....and I don't of any publisher "ASP" approved--For the most part I
specialize in "XXX" CD's, and have only done one shareware disc and one
clipArt disc--The shareware disc we are working on now requires we peek at
each file closely to see if it is forbidden on CD--Don't believe the "ASP"
has made alot of noise about what we do---Have you heard something to the
contrary ? Are you affliated with "ASP" ?

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: JOSH BERRY                             Number: 1133
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 06/22/93  9:54p
Subj: Mitsumi Audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR> Hi Josh;
JR>         Thanks for the info - You have me very close to
JR> upgrading my SB
JR>         to a PRO.
JR>                                 /JIM/
JR> --- FidoPCB v1.3 [NR]
JR>  * Origin: The GIFfer in Tampa, FL USA (813)969-1089 USR
JR> 16.8DS (1:377/50)
        You might want to get a Sound Blaster 16 ASP its supposed to be a
lot better, and your welcome for the info. Later...
                                        Josh
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From: JOSH BERRY                             Number: 1134
  To: ZACHARY ELWYN                            Date: 06/22/93 10:08p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to All, Zachary Elwyn said:
ZE> I recently purchased a copy of 7th guest for my computer.
ZE>  
ZE> I'm running a 486 33 VESA local bus w/ a cirrus logic 1MB
ZE> video card, 4MB of RAM, a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 all
ZE> connected w/ a Seagate WREN 9 (2.2 Gigabyte) hard drive w/ a
ZE> Adaptech 1542C SCSI II Controller.  The Demo will run only
ZE> in MCGA mode, and the actual program hangs at the command
ZE> line after starting the CD Audio section.  Anybody else have
ZE> a similar problem??
ZE>  
ZE> Zachary Elwyn
ZE> Sysop, Critics Choice BBS
ZE> "The Stealth Sysop"
ZE> --- FMail 0.92
ZE>  * Origin: NEW AREA? (1:202/221)
        What kind of CD do you have? You might need to load a VESA driver to
get it to work. There are a lot of VESA drivers on disk 2. later...
                                                Josh
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1135
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/23/93 11:51a
Subj: DD CD                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have it in hand. Didn't realize you'd sent it to my POB (:> . I don't  go
there but 1-2 a week so there was some delay. Sorry.  I'll get to the  review
this weekend, I hope. Cheers! 
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1136
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 06/23/93 12:20p
Subj: HELP... please!!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SS> have upgraded to DOS 6.0...   Even with the SETVER installed, it  
 SS> gives me the "incorrect DOS version" error.  Anyone have any ide  
                                                                       
  
SETVER not has to be installed, it needs to be configured. Do a "HELP 
SETVER" at the DOS prompt and go from there. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1137
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/23/93 12:06p
Subj:   INFO WANTED!!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> failed in the market yet--:) Hmmmm, wonder if I will get one :)   
                                                                       
  
The Romulus seems to indicate they're available now; did you say it 
would be the end of July? What do you think the street price will be if 
MSRP is $129. ? 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1138
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/23/93 12:10p
Subj: PCX POTPOURRI                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SV> publications!), from Mark Abbacchi! :) Will the picturebook be s  
 SV> seperately ?  BTW If you ever want one of your CDROM's reviewed   
                                                                       
  
I'd like to know about the picture book, too, Lee. I just ordered a copy 
of this from Mike S. and will be wanting the book. 
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From: BRIAN WHEATLEY                         Number: 1139
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93 12:50p
Subj: Mail List.                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can you please put me on your Mailing List, Thanks.

               Brian Wheatley
               # 257-7495 140th Street.
               Surrey, B.C.  CANADA
               v3w6g5

Brian.

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1140
  To: JIM TAYLOR                               Date: 06/24/93  6:47a
Subj: Digital Dreams Review                   Refer: 4560
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Let me know if you like this type of review. I will try to keep them

We love it... Unbiased product reviews are always welcome.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1141
  To: MATTHEW MATHERS                          Date: 06/24/93  6:49a
Subj: 4MB SIMMS trade for CDrom               Refer: 4567
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->                             Best deal for 4MB SIMMS!

This is the CDROM_SALE echo. Please stay on topic.

tim
moderator
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From: BEN NATION                             Number: 1142
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/23/93 11:32a
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I run the 005 models, and use IRQ 10,11, & 5. IRQ 2 should not be used, but
I'm under the assumption that if it's absolutely the last alternative, then
yes it can be used if no other choice is available.


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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 1143
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/23/93  6:07p
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (22 Jun 93) Darin Celino wrote to Ben Nation...
 DC> If you read his config strings it is obvious that he is using two
 DC> cards because he is using two different IRQ's.

  No, he may be running two or more drives from one card.  At least thats
  what my instruction manual on this Phillips internal CD says.  Just set
  up your IRQ addresssing in your config.sys as a device driver and off you
  go.  Mine is not a SCSI either.  No argument intended here just a little
  feed back from the field.  BTW, you do know that you can run two hard
  drives from one IRQ address and two floppies at another address and both
  can be controlled from a single card.  Likewise from the same card you
  can also run printers, mice, modems and joy sticks.  Ain't it great!

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From: FRITZ WILSON                           Number: 1144
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/23/93  3:35p
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Darin Celino to Ben Nation <=-

 DC> IRQ's.....which Mitsumi drives are you running?  I have two LU002's in
 DC> one system and a LU005 in another.....seems the eight-bit cards of the
 DC> LU002's limit the number that can be installed.....becuase they only
 DC> allow IRQ's 2, 3, and 5 to be addressed.....and for most of us IRQ 2
 DC> is redirected to IRQ 9.....can IRQ 2 be used????

    I'm using IRQ 2 here with a LU002 in a 386/33, qemm6, dv2.42, dos6,
stacker, ....

DEVICE=c:\qemm\loadhi.sys /r:2 \dev\mtmcdd.sys /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /S:3
/A:0 /M:19 /T:3 /I:2
                ^^^^


... Difference between a Virus & Windows? Viruses never fail.
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 1145
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/22/93  1:46p
Subj: Old Mitsumi's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

|JH> have seen them advertised for $90.00 each.                             |
|JH> If you would be willing to sell them for that I would buy three of them|
DC> +---------------------------------------------------------------------
DC> -------+No you haven't......you have seen the 800ms Tandy - Mitsumi 
DC> CD-RomDrives for $90.  I only wish I had waited.....just bought two 
DC> of thisdrive at $130 each.

I thought the older drives was all the same anyway.
600ms or 800ms still very slow for todays standards.
I guess your not willing to sell for $90.00 huh?
let me know if you happen to change your mind.. 

-Joe
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 1146
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/22/93  1:48p
Subj: Pier II                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC> And don't forget that version 6 was going for over $100! <g>  
DC> Competition from others in the authoring business has driven their 
DC> prices down.

WOW! $100.00, I didn't run cd-rom's when that on came out.
I suppose there was a lot of angry buyers when nightowl 7 came out and 6
dropped way down..
Just heard yesterday some dealers are taking pre-release orders for nightowl
9. Guess nightowl 8 is worth $20.00 now huh? 

-Joe
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From: DON RIEB                               Number: 1147
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/21/93 11:56p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SaveWare

Call Don at 708-657-1160 or log onto the BBS at 708-724-2427
as new or use the Guest pass of Name: CD ROM  Password: CD ROM
If it asks for age or phone number put all 0's.
Sysops with Front door mailers can freq 1:115/724

Download CDROMCAT.ZIP and HARDCAT.ZIP from file base #2.

Sysops freq the best ANSi door out "ANSIGAL*.ZIP"  Ansi gal 1 and 2.

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From: JAY SEXTON                             Number: 1148
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/23/93  3:35p
Subj: sellin' some Roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Eric,
Please send me the "Family Doctor" on cd-rom at $25.
My address is:
Jay Sexton
1627 6th Ave.
Watervliet, NY 12189
Am I also to expect to pay for cod cost? And what about shipping?
Jay

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From: JESSE WOLGAMOTT                        Number: 1149
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93  4:17p
Subj: Tandy 1000                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a Tandy CD-ROM for sale, never used... Paid $250

Its a 640 mb, avg seek time, and comes with SCSI software, cards, and
connections.

Asking $150 OBO

Reply here, or call (713)589-8323

Ask for Jesse

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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 1150
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 06/22/93  7:35a
Subj: MSCDEX PROBLEM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >         Try this instead.  Go to the c prompt and enter "help 
 > setver" then follow the instructions.  Easy.

 Jim; finly found the problem to many copies on MSCDEX The DOS 6 version
<that works ok> has a hidden version #?? but it works.  Now I'm fighting the
IRQ DMA battle. Thanks, Clint

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 1151
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93 11:32a
Subj: .Mods, .Vocs, Ect                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi all,
        I was wondering if anyone had a CD with just music files on it such
as .Mods and .Vocs or anything like that.  BUT I don't want very many wavs
there should be more .MODS than anything else.  Well hope I hear from someone
soon.....

            Thanks,
                    Darren Sellner

                P.S.
                    Please tell me how many megs are on the CD.

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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 1152
  To: BOB SPILLERS                             Date: 06/23/93 11:32p
Subj: Re: Which Is Best?                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Bob Spillers to All <=-

 BS> What are the advantages/disadvantages of a caddy/caddyless drive. I
 BS> am about two more questions from purchasing a CD ROM and this is one of
 BS> them. I have learned a lot just monitoring this echo and Ryan Denke
 BS> also gave me some very good info.  ITKU

        Advantages                             Disadvantages
        ----------                             -------------
Caddy: -protects CD's                          -cost: $4-$5 a piece
       -if you have 1 per CD, you never have   -if not 1 per CD, have to take
        to touch the CD once installed          out of jewel case and put in
                                                another case (caddy)
       -internal drive door is just a slot
        like a 3.5" floppy drive, so just
        slip in the caddy

Caddyless:
       -just drop the CD into the drive        -always handling CD's
       -no caddy to fool with or buy           -2 hand operation...push
button
                                                drive slides out...lift
lid...
                                                drop in CD....close
lid...push
                                                in drive

That's about all I can think of.....maybe someone can add (or delete) for
you.
 
... Anything unsecured is mine.  Anything I can pry loose is not secured.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 1153
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/23/93 11:32p
Subj: Re: sellin' some Roms                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Eric Bravick to All Users <=-

 EB> CDRoms for sale:

 EB> Animals                      $20.00

If this is the San Diego Zoo: The Animals, I would like to offer you $17
delivered.  Please let me know...thanks !!
 
... Voice: 919-870-6926 or Prodigy: CJBM15A
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 1154
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 06/23/93  7:27a
Subj: Re: CD Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 20 Jun 93  07:14:19, I heard Michael Konor shout to All:

MK> 1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
MK>    power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and
90-
MK>    240 VAC universal input.  $215.00
MK> 

  Do you have more than one of these drives ??  These are the drives that you

can connect four all together, Right ?? I might be buying the 4 then.


                   ......|<evin

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1155
  To: CHAD PATTERSON                           Date: 06/23/93 10:05a
Subj: cd-roms                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


CP> I am very interested in the Hitachi cdr-3500 and I was wondering
  
 I have about 50 of them for $130 if you want some.   Call
 205-824-2552 and get "Cream of the Crop"  shareware cd for half
 price with your order.   I also have:
  
  4 used Hitachi  internal  3500  drives  with  an  external  case,
  controller  card,  cables,  caddies,  screws,  drivers,  30   day
  warranty,  INCLUDING shipping in the US via  US  mail  AND  c.o.d
  charges   ...   ONLY     $600    total.      Call    205-824-2552
  
  Power supplies are available for $25,
  External cable is available for $30,
  2 nd day shipping is available for $25.
 
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1156
  To: CAM LERCH                                Date: 06/23/93 10:06a
Subj: Cheap CD-ROM Drives                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


CL> Hello all.. If you have any information about cheap old CD-ROM
 CL> drives.. around
 CL> 680ms for a cheap price please drop me a note..
  
 I have some used Hitachi 3500 internals for $130 each.
 Controller cards are $60 that will run up to 4 of these drives.
 
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1157
  To: MARC FONTENOT                            Date: 06/23/93 10:11a
Subj:  Looking For Cd-Rom S                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


MF> Thanks Pete!  I have made a deal with a guy in Alabama,  I will
 MF> buy the CD-Rom So Much Shareware 2.  It is set up for a Spitfire
 MF> bbs, and in fact it is put out buy a Spitfire sysop!
  
 You should see "Cream of the Crop" automatically set itself up on
 Spitfire.  If you saw it run and totally do everything in less
 than 2 minutes you would be surprised.  Call me for a %50
 discount if you are a sysop on Fidonet and listed in Nodelist.dat
 205-824-2552
 
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1158
  To: IAN LEVSTEIN                             Date: 06/23/93 10:19a
Subj: Sony 31A & SBPro                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


IL> I'd like to hook up the audio output of my new Sony 31A to my
 IL> SoundBlaster Pro, but it seems that the audio cable connectors
 IL> are not compatible.  Any suggestions?
  
 Go behind your local tv repair shop and find a vcr that they have
 thrown out and you can get a hand full of wires that will work.
 All you need to do is get two wires to connect the left and right
 channels and the ground will go through your mother board.
 Presto!  Music...
 
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From: BERNARD TIBBETTS                       Number: 1159
  To: ROBERT LEE                               Date: 06/24/93  5:16p
Subj: Maximus BBS-specific CDRo               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Goodie Goodie. is it Changer & multinode conpatible.

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 1160
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93  9:24p
Subj: Digital dreams for sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Digital Dreams adult CD for sale
perfect condition, just released.
630 + megs with many many .GIF file viewers, utilities.
BBS ready
25.00


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From: CHARLES STRUSZ @ 970/201               Number: 1161
  To: DOUG STRIEFLER                           Date: 06/23/93  9:34a
Subj: Cd rom burners                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Does anyone know of any good deals on cd rom burners
->
-> preferably the Phillips model

I have the Phillips 521 for $4750 US Cash.  Comes with sample disk and CD
Write authoring software.  In stock and ready to ship.


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From: CHARLES STRUSZ @ 970/201               Number: 1162
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 06/23/93  9:41a
Subj: Pier 2 desc.,ra bbs                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> the date & size out!  Next time you get a CD, let me know and I'll
-> let you FREQ the utility that should do all the work for you!

I'd like to freq those now!  What's the Magic Name?


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From: DENNIS STERNER                         Number: 1163
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/23/93  7:47a
Subj: SELLIN' SOME ROMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll offer $220 for everything.
Call 717-637-2972 if you wish to speed up this sale.

Dennis

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From: TIM WILLIAMS                           Number: 1164
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93  9:20a
Subj: Midi cd's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm needing info on midi cd's. Is there such an animal as a cd with midi
sounds, drums , ect that can be used in recording.

... But soft, what light through yonder tagline breaks?
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From: JACK BROWN                             Number: 1165
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/23/93  6:23p
Subj: Nix pix                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

A CD-ROM catalog put out by a local BBS indicated that the Nix Pix disks are
from the same company that published Busty Babes.  I knew you published the
latter - did you also publish the former?
===
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From: DAVE KALWISHKY                         Number: 1166
  To: BILL SCHNELL                             Date: 06/23/93  3:12p
Subj: Mitsumi questions                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BS> You'll have to register it. Well worth the $23.00. Send netmail to
  > 2:224/40.17 for more info. If you use your credit card, they
  > can file attach them to you.

I sent them a fax today with my Visa number and my Compuserve address, so
hopefully he can upload it to me there..  I think the driver is well worth
the $23..

     -=> Dave <=-     Wed  06-23-1993


 -- SPEED 1.4c #1039: We raffled off a turkey -- she's in Room 303.


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From: BILL DEERTZ                            Number: 1167
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/23/93 10:09p
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> per interface card.  Please explain!
->
-> For others interested in this setup.....everything in Bill's
-> Config.sys and Autoexec.bat does work when you are using two drives
-> and two interface cards.

Sorry, my mistake!  You need two interface cards for two Mitsumi
CD-ROM's.  For whatever reason I mistakenly thought he wanted to know if
you could run two Mitsumi's in the same machine, not from the same
interface card.  Strike that comment...


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From: BILL DEERTZ                            Number: 1168
  To: BEN NATION                               Date: 06/23/93 10:10p
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  sorry to but in, but I run 3, each using there own card. How can you
-> 1 card. I'd really be interested in learning your technique. At the m
-> mitsumi's can be ran, if your able to run 2 from 1 card, just maybe 1
-> ran from 5 cards. Are you somehow splicing wires together?

My mistake, I was zoning when I replied to that message.  I was thinking
he wanted to know if you could run two Mitsumi's in the same machine,
not from the same interface card....


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From: BILL DEERTZ                            Number: 1169
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 06/23/93 10:13p
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->  -> Does the Mitsumi $200 dollar drives allow more than one drive to
->  BD> Yes, you can run up to two  Mitsumi's on the same interface card
->
-> And how, may I ask, do you physically connect 2 mitsumi drives to the
-> controller card?
->

Oooppss, sorry, my mistake.  I was in another world when I replied to
that message. You in fact need one interface card for each CD ROM.  I
mistakenly replied thinking he wanted to know if you could run two
Mitsumi's from the same machine.


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From: EARL BONSER                            Number: 1170
  To: BILL DEERTZ                              Date: 06/24/93 12:27a
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Yes, you can run up to two  Mitsumi's on the same interface card.  I have
-> two and have been running them on a 2 node system for several months with
no
-> problems.  The following are excerpts from my config.sys and autoexec.bat
-> files:
->
-> DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 \DEV\MTMCDD.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:0
/M:5
-> /I:5
-> DEVICE:C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 \DEV\MTMCDD.SYS /D:MSCD002 /P:310 /A:0
/M:5
-> /I:2

On the same interface card?  Why 2 addresses and drivers?  Looks like 2
interface cards to me.  Given that, you can run as many as you have slots,
IRQ's and addresses for.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 1171
  To: ADAM GILBERT                             Date: 06/22/93 11:23p
Subj: Mitsumis for $110                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 AG> Are you taking trades?  If you are I'll give you a 40meg
 AG> IDE hard drive and a 20mb MFM hard drive.  Both are in
 AG> perfect working order and have no bad sectors.
 AG> Give me a call if interested.
Sorry, the only drives I get these days are SCSI and in the GB+ range. Can't
think of any hardware I need, but would really love a copy of Zyindex or
Folio. Voice (301)924-3594. Thanks.
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1172
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93  5:51a
Subj: CD-Rom Special                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Computer Works is having a special on some very recently released discs. 
 
Software Vault #2 for $29 
Digital Dreams for $32 
Get both for $55 
 
Be sure to mention this message when ordering.  Quantities are limited 
and this deal can be terminated at any time.  Terms are check or money 
order.  Shipping is $4.00 and C.O.D. is an extra $3.25 in the U.S. 
To order Digital Dreams, you must be 21 or older. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 1173
  To: ZACHARY ELWYN                            Date: 06/23/93  6:21p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ZE>I'm running a 486 33 VESA local bus w/ a cirrus logic 1MB video card, 4MB
of
ZE>RAM, a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 all connected w/ a Seagate WREN 9 (2.2
Gigabyte
ZE>hard drive w/ a Adaptech 1542C SCSI II Controller.  The Demo will run only
i
ZE>MCGA mode, and the actual program hangs at the command line after starting
t
ZE>CD Audio section.  Anybody else have a similar problem??

I assume you got the fix off of their BBS which allows VLB Cirrus cards
to work?

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * A career is a job that takes about 20 more hours a
week.


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From: NILL TOULME                            Number: 1174
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93  7:04p
Subj: CDROM ACCESS PRICES 6/16 #1             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

From : Kirk Jensen                               06-16-93  10:26
To   : All
Subj : CD-ROM PRICES JUNE 16  #1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
========================================================================== 
D-ROM ACCESS PRICE LIST FOR JUNE - REFERENCE AND BUSINESS
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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 1175
  To: MATTHEW MATHERS                          Date: 06/24/93  6:14a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MM> CL> How many MS is this drive.. How long have you had it for?
MM> CL> What shape is it in?
MM>
MM> MK> 1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height
MM> Enclosure MK> with
MM> MK>   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for
MM> I/O, and MK> 90-
MM> MK>   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00
MM> MK> 2. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00
MM>
MM> I am very interested in both your CD's.  Would you be willing to
MM> trade for a couple of 4MB SIMMS (4 of them for both CD drives).
MM> These are 4x9. 80ns, 32-bit, 72-pin SIMMS.  If you are interested,
MM> let me know.  Thanx!

Sounds like a good deal.  But, unfortunately, I've got all the ram my
system can even possibly use.

Thanks for the offer.  The drives are still available if you still want a
couple.


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 1176
  To: BLAKE BARR                               Date: 06/24/93  6:41a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BB>         Does anyone out there have a used (Fairly new) cd-rom drive
BB> they want to sell? I dont really care what brand, as long as it
BB> works without hassle. It will be used on a bbs. Preferably
BB> External, but Interal will do. Dont want to spend much. Already
BB> have one drive myself.

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Both Drives Include:  90 Day Warranty, External DIP switches, True 50 pin
  SCSI, 350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume, newest ROM
  installed.  Diagnostic/cleaning done by service center.  NO special
  drivers required.  5.25 - HH Drive. 64k Buffer and manual. MPC Compatible

205-837-5053 -=- Leave Message if not home, it WILL be returned -=-

*FSED91j*
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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 1177
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/24/93  6:43a
Subj: Toshiba CD Drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Both Drives Include:  90 Day Warranty, External DIP switches, True 50 pin
  SCSI, 350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume, newest ROM
  installed.  Diagnostic/cleaning done by service center.  NO special
  drivers required.  5.25 - HH Drive. 64k Buffer and manual. MPC Compatible

205-837-5053 -=- Leave Message if not home, it WILL be returned -=-



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From: EDWARD HENSEL                          Number: 1178
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 06/24/93  9:29a
Subj: HELP... please!!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM, which I can not load the driver for now that
-> have upgraded to DOS 6.0...   Even with the SETVER installed, it stil
-> gives me the "incorrect DOS version" error.  Anyone have any ideas???
->                       Any info. will be GREATLY appreciated!  Shane
->
-> ---
->  þ WinQwk 2.0 a#0 þ Unregistered Evaluation Copy
->
-> --- EzyQwk V1.02
->  * Origin: Beacon Hill System  <HST>  Transfer Pa (1:2601/506)

Try using the MSCDEX.EXE file from DOS 6.0 instead of the one supplied
from the Drive company.


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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 1179
  To: DON RIEB                                 Date: 06/23/93  3:32p
Subj: Re: CDROM changer software              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DR> I have seen a lot of the sysops getting the Monster disk (2 disk set)
and 
 DR> the Shareware Extravaganza (4 disk set) for there BBS's as it has no 
 DR> duplicate files or duplicate file bases.   Each disk has different file

I got the Shareware Extravaganza for my BBS and am a bit disappointed with
it.  A large number of the files are VERY old.  Many are dated in the mid
80's!  Although the directories in many areas are dated from earlier this
year the people who put this out obviously didn't use the latest versions of
anything.  If you want to get Maximus for example version 1.?? is on the CD
when version 2.?? has been out for a couple years.


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From: BRIAN BOURNE                           Number: 1180
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93 10:00p
Subj: CD's for Sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

San Diego Zoo Presents: The Animals (on CD-ROM) DOS ed. (new) - $35
San Diego Zoo Presents: The Animals (on CD-ROM) Windows ed. (new) - $40
BattleChess CD ROM - $15

Call 225-0205 if interested (I won't be able to respond to email).

Brian

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From: TODD VIERLING                          Number: 1181
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 06/23/93  6:52p
Subj: Re: HELP... please!!!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 22-Jun-93, Shane Snyder (1:2601/506) contemplated HELP... please!!!
 and said the following to ALL:

 SS> I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM, which I can not load the driver for now that
 SS> I have upgraded to DOS 6.0...   Even with the SETVER installed, it
 SS> stilkl gives me the "incorrect DOS version" error.  Anyone have any
 SS> ideas???
 SS>                       Any info. will be GREATLY appreciated!  Shane

Which driver can you not load? the ???.SYS driver, or the MSCDEX.EXE
driver? Remember that MSCDEX comes with DOS 6 and you should not use an
older one. As far as the ???.SYS driver goes, if you put the correct
version number in SETVER, you also need this line in your CONFIG.SYS before
the ???.SYS driver is loaded:

DEVICE=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE

This loads and activates Setver. Also be sure that since you're using DOS
6's MSCDEX, that SETVER has no entry for it (i.e. type SETVER MSCDEX.EXE /D
at a DOS prompt).

 - T\/: FIDO 1:371/39.11; INTERNET Todd.Vierling@p11.f39.n371.z1.fidonet.org
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From: GARY HOWIE                             Number: 1182
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/24/93 12:10p
Subj: sellin' some Roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EB>CDRoms for sale: 
EB>      Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00 
 
Eric, 
     I'll take the above.  Send me an address and I'll send the $$. 
                                                                        -grh 
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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 1183
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/24/93 10:58a
Subj: CDROM titles 4 Sale                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Because some people didn't keep their word or there was some trouble with 
checks, I still have one each of the following CDROM titles from my last msg 
for sale at prices stated: 
 
$15.00  Barney Bear Goes to School--for ages 2-6. Listen to stories and play 
                                    various education activities. 
 
$15.00  the Manhole--A graphic fantasy exploration (just use mouse) for ages 
                     4-7+. 
 
$20.00  American Business Phone Book--New, still in shrink wrap. 10 million+ 
                                      American business listings and over 1 
                                      million Canadian listings, 1993
edition. 
 
$20.00  Multimedia Toolbook--Asymetrix Toolbook 1.5 evaluation edition. Lets 
                             a person develop a multimedia presentation for 
                             WIN 3.1 and check out the program before 
                             spending $595.00 list to see if it's right for 
                             you. Limits developmental time to 6 hours of 
                             work per project. 
 
 
All prices are firm and do not include shipping. For shipping: 1st item $2.00

2nd item $1.00 more, 3rd and above $.50 more each. 
 
Sorry but to make this easier for me, these are for sale in U.S. only. No
COD. 
A money order gets same day first class shipping, and a check gets a 5 bank 
working day hold. All orders will get a letter telling status of order,
return 
of monies, etc. as needed. 
 
Send order to: 
 
Paul Swider 
509 Digger St. 
Las Vegas, Nv. 
89107 
 
If you have to discuss anything about the titles or concerning an order, 
please call me at (702) 877-4907 from 1PM to 9PM PDST. Thanks. 
 
>Paul< 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50  "Live now -- procrastinate tomorrow!" 

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From: STEVE O'BRIEN                          Number: 1184
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93 12:00a
Subj: CD ROM FILE LISTINGS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TO ALL:
  I am looking for (among other things) a place (BBS; a disk; paper 
(although paper wouldn't be the environmental choice))  that has the lists 
of most, some, one or two adult CD listings.  I really cannot see it as a 
hard thing to do since most of the Cds come with the listings (FILES.BBS . 
. .) on them.  [SOAPBOX] To place these files in the accessible user would 
be an excellent marketing ploy [END SOAPBOX]  So if you or anyone else 
knows of this info please be a chum; a buddy old' pal and drop me a line!
Later
 Steve

A^'
À;¤^÷^---A^'
À;¤^÷^ þ WinQwk 2.0 #0 þ Unregistered Evaluation CopyA^'
À;¤^÷^

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From: HOWARD MALKIEL                         Number: 1185
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93  8:49a
Subj: Cd rom discs to trade                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi everyone. I have a couple of XXX CD's that I would be willing to trade.
       - Asian Ladies - Pretty new disc, only used 3-4 times.

       - Adult Reference Library - Also new with minimal use.

Let me know what you have to trade, and we'll see if we can hook up.

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 1186
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/22/93 10:50p
Subj: Re: Old Mitsumi's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> No you haven't......you have seen the 800ms Tandy - Mitsumi CD-Rom
> Drives for $90.  I only wish I had waited.....just bought two of this
> drive at $130 each.
Hi Darin,
Keep your eyes open. I am in the talks for Toshiba 3301 drives for $190 each.
The deal has not been finalized but very close. I will also do a close our
for a national hardware distribution company. They also be SCSI drives. TTYL 

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 1187
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 06/22/93 10:53p
Subj: Re: DIGITAL DREAMS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> I only mention this because I am looking for a Canadian CD distributor
> that desires to compete with the Americans. The only one I have found to
> date is Vince Sorensen (sp?) in Regina. Unfortunately, he does not offer
> anything I am currently looking for.
Hi Don, I may open a branch in Surrey, BC. I am in the talks with another
fellow and he wants to franchise our operation in Canada. TTYL 

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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1188
  To: KEVIN WILLIAMS                           Date: 06/23/93  7:47p
Subj: Toshiba XM 3301b                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I was wondering if you have a SCSI controler for it and if there are
cables.  I would like to also know if you would be interested in
trading for a Logitech Hand Scanner.  I really don't now the going rate
for that model of drive so please get back to me on what you think is
fair.  I am either looking for a drive that is somewhat slow, around
500+ms with atleast a 150k transfer rate or pay a little more and get a
drive that is 300-ms with at least 225k transfer rate.  Please give me
an idea on price that you need.  Thanks Chad.
    P.S. I will be buying something really soon so please be quick in
responding.  Thank you once again.


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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 1189
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 06/24/93  9:38a
Subj: HELP... please!!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

|SS> I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM, which I can not load the driver for now that I|
|SS> have upgraded to DOS 6.0...   Even with the SETVER installed, it stilkl|
|SS> gives me the "incorrect DOS version" error.  Anyone have any ideas???  |
|SS>                       Any info. will be GREATLY appreciated!  Shane    |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
You must be using the MSCDEX that came with the drive.....the drive
software also includes the SETVER program.  Depending upon how old the
drive is you may have these two programs from as far back as DOS 4.0.
Try directing the line in your Autoexec that calls MSCDEX to your DOS
6.0 directory.....and don't use SETVER at all.

Good Luck
___
 X MegaMail 2.10 #0:Stupidity is not a handicap.  Park elsewhere!

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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 1190
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/24/93  9:46a
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: 06/26/93  7:10a                       Private: No 

|TH> Isn't Mark Abb*.* Pier's top distributor?  I know for a fact that Mark |
|TH> has spent thousands of dollars promoting the Pier series, both in this |
|TH> echo & in most of the major magazines.... And now he's being screwed?  |
|TH> I don't get it.... Why would a publisher shaft his top distributor?    |
|TH>                                                                        |
|TH> Shareware CD ROM success recipe:                                       |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
I agree.....

I was thinking about getting Pier 2 to put online and sell to
users.....now I don't believe I want to have anything to do with 1 or
2 and feel sure that Greg A.'s actions in this matter will prohibit
him from making a Pier 3.

Oh....Greg.....I have a 32 meg RLL harddrive that I am selling for
$200.  It cost me over $500 when I purchased it new in 1988.  It has
very low useage.....used in my 4 year olds computer.  I am sorry but I
cannot allow it to be sold at what the market will bear for this drive
because of what I paid for it.  It must go soon.
___
 X MegaMail 2.10 #0:Work is for those who don't like to fish.

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From: SCOTT HUNSINGER                        Number: 1191
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93  7:35p
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD's for sale:

Wing Commander II Deluxe Edition
Phoenix CD Version 3.0 (still shrinkwrapped) Lotus 1-2-3 for Windows with
Multimedia Smarthelp The Bible Library Animated Pixels - The Illustrated Holy
Bible Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective Version I Prophone (3 disk set of
all phone numbers in U.S.) The Complete Works of William Shakespeare The
Complete Sherlock Holmes Street Atlas USA (for the right price)

I'm not interested in trades unless you have a GREAT deal for me. You can
reply here, or reach me at either (704) 782-6726 or 786-1034 (second number
before 10pm).  I'm usually here after 3pm or so.


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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 1192
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/22/93  8:37a
Subj: CD WinBox!                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Damar Enterprises announces the introduction of a NEW 
Windows-based Shareware CD-ROM: 
 
               *#############*    Available from better 
               #  CD WinBox  #    dealers in this echo! 
               *#############* 
 
This is a GREAT addition to folks that already own our first 
release, the CD PowerBox.  If you're into Windows - the 
WinBox is for you.  Here are the disk's stats: 
 
*    Approximately 6,000 files. 
*    Over 30% are TRULY dated 1993! 
*    Over 620 MegaBytes of files, icons, articles, and 
     bitmaps. 
*    40 Files areas each with a multi-line file description 
     in the FILES.BBS format. 
*    SFFILES.BBS and MASTER.DIR supported as well! 
*    Use the true Windows-based Graphical User Interface for 
     quick file location and installation! 
*    Huge amounts of applications (this disk is not just a 
     collection of icons and graphics!) 
 
#    AREA NAME:                    #    AREA NAME: 
------------------------------     ---------------------------- 
1    New & Journals                21   Networking 
2    Windows NT                    22   Windows for Workgroups 
3    Financial & Investment        23   Communications A-M 
4    Printer Utils/Drivers         24   Communications N-Z 
5    Games A-M                     25   Icons Galore A-G 
6    Games N-Z                     26   Icons Galore H-P 
7    Personal Info. Managers       27   Icons Galore Q-Z 
8    Multimedia - Video            28   Icon Apps/Utils 
9    Multimedia - Sound A-M        29   Screen Savers 
10   Multimedia - Sound N-Z        30   Fonts - ATM Type A-M 
11   Developers Files              31   Fonts - ATM Type N-Z 
12   Visual Basic A-M              32   Fonts - TrueType A-M 
13   Visual Basic N-Z              33   Fonts - TrueType N-Z 
14   Word for Windows              34   Fonts - Apps/Utils 
15   Other Word Processors         35   Educational 
16   Graphics - Apps/Utils         36   Spreadsheet Related 
17   Graphics - BMP/RLE A-M        37   Database 
18   Graphics - BMP/RLE N-Z        38   Apps A-J 
19   Graphics - PCX A-M            39   Apps K-S 
20   Graphics - PCX N-Z            40   Apps T-Z 
 
       Call your favorite dealer for competitive prices! 
 
 
 * OLX 2.1 TD * The NEGOTIATOR has SPOKEN! (510)830-5043 1:161/205 
- JetMail v1.12 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 1193
  To: MATTHEW MATHERS                          Date: 06/23/93  2:16p
Subj: 4MB SIMMS trade for CDrom               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If those SIMMs are actually 1x36 4MB, I'd be itnerested in trading a CD-ROM
drive for them. Please call me at (301)924-3594. Thanks.
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From: TIM MUTH                               Number: 1194
  To: CHRIS HORKA                              Date: 06/25/93 12:04a
Subj: modem                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Chris:
     I've picked up a USRobotics 14400 modem but i'm still dnloaading
at 2400.


Why?



Tim


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From: SHAWN DOWNEY                           Number: 1195
  To: SYSOP                                    Date: 06/23/93  7:57p
Subj: CD ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I Recently Posted An AD, And It Was Incorrect. Ad Price Was $79US And Was
Supposed To Read $39US. Furthermore, The AD Displayed DIGITAL DREAMS
And Was To Display DIGITAL DREAMS - THE MCHENRY COLLECTION. Shortening It's
Name To Just DIGITAL DREAMS Caused Conflict As That Name Is Obviously In
Use On Another (Different) Compact Disc.

So, Here's The Re-Run, Sorry For The Errors On The First Go Around. Just So
Everyone Knows, This CD ROM Is Not For Sale By Anyone Anywhere Except 
SR MEDIA. It Is Not The Same Compact Disc As 'DIGITAL DREAMS'. It Was Made
By SR MEDIA And Is Sold Only Through SR MEDIA

Here We Go:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Announcing "DIGITAL DREAMS - THE MCHENRY COLLETION" Adult CD ROM

If You're Wondering What's On This Amazing ROM, And If You Want To Double
Check That It's Not The Same As The 'Digital Dreams' CD ROM You Might Have,
Call 403-236-7869 And Check This Awesome CD ROM Out Via BBS.

DIGITAL DREAMS - THE MCHENRY COLLECTION Was Produced 06-15-93 And Is Now
Available To All CD Users. The CD ROM Is An Adult Collection Of Images. 
This CD ROM Is The Absolutely Finest Collection Of Adult .GIF Images Ever
Compiled By Anyone!

Over 1700 (640x480x256) Images. Over 300 DL/GL/FLI Animations. The Latest
Graphic Utilities And More! 2500+ Files In All * OVER 500 MEGABYTES *

Features:

 - 1,700+ Unmodified Original Scans From The MCHENRY Adult BBS. No Painful
   Logos Slapped On Top Of These Quality Images By Irresponsible SysOps.
   Fully Classified And Described Just Like On McHenry. Images Trace McHenry
   Right Up To The Pressing Date Of This CD - Tonnes Of New Images Not Found
   On Any CD ROM Anywhere! HOT HOT HOT Entertainment For Adults!

 - Over 300 Adult Animations Reside In .ZIP Format For BBS Operators, As
   Well As In The RAW .DL, .GL, .FLI Files Ready For Viewing. The Latest Of
   Each Animation Viewer Is Included.

 - Fully SysOp Ready. File Listing Formats In 3 Styles. Support For Anyone
   Using The Standard FILES.BBS Listing. Also Available Is A FILES.DIR For
   TBBS Software. And One More Format For Another Popular Software Package.
   Support For RemoteAccess, QuickBBS, SuperBBS, WildCat!, TBBS, PCBoard And
   More!!!! Every Image Is Listed In The File Listings In Each Directory.

 - Add This CD To Your Adult Collection And You'll Have By Far The Best Set
   Of Adult Images Available To Your Users On Your System! No Annoying ZIP
   Banners Advertising Someone Else's BBS - No Annoying Logos Plastered Over
   The Images - It's Perfect!

 - 0% Duplication, Absolutely Incredible Package. I Personally Own Over 10
   Adult CD ROM's And This One Takes The Cake * BY FAR * Designed By A SysOp
   With The SysOp In Mind.

 - An Absolute Must For The Avid .GIF Collector. No Collection Touches What
   Is On This ROM - It's Incredible!!! Includes All The Popular GIF Viewers
   Such As CSHOW, VPIC, VUIMAGE And A Whole Lot More. Drawing Programs, Image
   Editors, Converters, Etc.

 - Master File Listings Compiled And Included On The CD ROM. Each And Every
   Directory Is Included. This Is A DREAM Come True For SysOps With Adult
   Areas!
 
 - Absolutely No Low-Res Garbage. No 320x200x256 Junk! Just Premium Scans
   By McHenry BBS In Minimum Resolutions Of 640x480x256.

To Order This Amazing CD ROM Send A Cheque Or Money Order For $39US Funds To:
Again That's Just $39.00 (THIRTY NINE) US Funds!

 SR Media
 P.O. Box 72138 G.L.P.O
 1600 - 90th Avenue S.W.
 Calgary, Alberta
 T2V 5H9

Sorry, We Don't Currently Accept Credit Cards. Money Order Payments Will Be
Shipped *SAME DAY*. Prices Do Not Include Shipping. We'll Ship However You
Want It Shipped. FedEx or UPS Recommended.

SR Media Information Line: 403-630-1336 Compact Disc Demo BBS: 403-236-7869

 ** CALL OUR BBS FOR A COMPLETE LISTING OF FILES ON THIS AMAZING CD ROM **

- Again, it's *NOT* the same as 'DIGITAL DREAMS' for $29US.

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From: SHAWN DOWNEY                           Number: 1196
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93  7:57p
Subj: CD ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I Recently Posted An AD, And It Was Incorrect. Ad Price Was $79US And Was
Supposed To Read $39US. Furthermore, The AD Displayed DIGITAL DREAMS
And Was To Display DIGITAL DREAMS - THE MCHENRY COLLECTION. Shortening It's
Name To Just DIGITAL DREAMS Caused Conflict As That Name Is Obviously In
Use On Another (Different) Compact Disc.

So, Here's The Re-Run, Sorry For The Errors On The First Go Around. Just So
Everyone Knows, This CD ROM Is Not For Sale By Anyone Anywhere Except 
SR MEDIA. It Is Not The Same Compact Disc As 'DIGITAL DREAMS'. It Was Made
By SR MEDIA And Is Sold Only Through SR MEDIA

Here We Go:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Announcing "DIGITAL DREAMS - THE MCHENRY COLLETION" Adult CD ROM

If You're Wondering What's On This Amazing ROM, And If You Want To Double
Check That It's Not The Same As The 'Digital Dreams' CD ROM You Might Have,
Call 403-236-7869 And Check This Awesome CD ROM Out Via BBS.

DIGITAL DREAMS - THE MCHENRY COLLECTION Was Produced 06-15-93 And Is Now
Available To All CD Users. The CD ROM Is An Adult Collection Of Images. 
This CD ROM Is The Absolutely Finest Collection Of Adult .GIF Images Ever
Compiled By Anyone!

Over 1700 (640x480x256) Images. Over 300 DL/GL/FLI Animations. The Latest
Graphic Utilities And More! 2500+ Files In All * OVER 500 MEGABYTES *

Features:

 - 1,700+ Unmodified Original Scans From The MCHENRY Adult BBS. No Painful
   Logos Slapped On Top Of These Quality Images By Irresponsible SysOps.
   Fully Classified And Described Just Like On McHenry. Images Trace McHenry
   Right Up To The Pressing Date Of This CD - Tonnes Of New Images Not Found
   On Any CD ROM Anywhere! HOT HOT HOT Entertainment For Adults!

 - Over 300 Adult Animations Reside In .ZIP Format For BBS Operators, As
   Well As In The RAW .DL, .GL, .FLI Files Ready For Viewing. The Latest Of
   Each Animation Viewer Is Included.

 - Fully SysOp Ready. File Listing Formats In 3 Styles. Support For Anyone
   Using The Standard FILES.BBS Listing. Also Available Is A FILES.DIR For
   TBBS Software. And One More Format For Another Popular Software Package.
   Support For RemoteAccess, QuickBBS, SuperBBS, WildCat!, TBBS, PCBoard And
   More!!!! Every Image Is Listed In The File Listings In Each Directory.

 - Add This CD To Your Adult Collection And You'll Have By Far The Best Set
   Of Adult Images Available To Your Users On Your System! No Annoying ZIP
   Banners Advertising Someone Else's BBS - No Annoying Logos Plastered Over
   The Images - It's Perfect!

 - 0% Duplication, Absolutely Incredible Package. I Personally Own Over 10
   Adult CD ROM's And This One Takes The Cake * BY FAR * Designed By A SysOp
   With The SysOp In Mind.

 - An Absolute Must For The Avid .GIF Collector. No Collection Touches What
   Is On This ROM - It's Incredible!!! Includes All The Popular GIF Viewers
   Such As CSHOW, VPIC, VUIMAGE And A Whole Lot More. Drawing Programs, Image
   Editors, Converters, Etc.

 - Master File Listings Compiled And Included On The CD ROM. Each And Every
   Directory Is Included. This Is A DREAM Come True For SysOps With Adult
   Areas!
 
 - Absolutely No Low-Res Garbage. No 320x200x256 Junk! Just Premium Scans
   By McHenry BBS In Minimum Resolutions Of 640x480x256.

To Order This Amazing CD ROM Send A Cheque Or Money Order For $39US Funds To:
Again That's Just $39.00 (THIRTY NINE) US Funds!

 SR Media
 P.O. Box 72138 G.L.P.O
 1600 - 90th Avenue S.W.
 Calgary, Alberta
 T2V 5H9

Sorry, We Don't Currently Accept Credit Cards. Money Order Payments Will Be
Shipped *SAME DAY*. Prices Do Not Include Shipping. We'll Ship However You
Want It Shipped. FedEx or UPS Recommended.

SR Media Information Line: 403-630-1336 Compact Disc Demo BBS: 403-236-7869

 ** CALL OUR BBS FOR A COMPLETE LISTING OF FILES ON THIS AMAZING CD ROM **

- Again, it's *NOT* the same as 'DIGITAL DREAMS' for $29US.

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 1197
  To: TIM SCHOOLER                             Date: 06/23/93 10:41p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD PRICE$                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Mike Shannon <06-22-93 01:03> Tim Schooler wrote:

TS>> regarding Nix Pix I, your reply seemed somewhat short. <g>.. What's
TS>> wrong with it ? You carry all of the others...

It's federally illegal, and he could run into criminal charges as a
distributor.....Not *ONE* reputable dealer will carry this disc--My
definition of reputable is the person who deals in CD's full time, and is a
top 20 wholesaler, appears at all the big shows etc....the smaller dealers
tend to carry it because they don't know any better, and want to make all the
sales they can--A professional dealer who knows the industry won't get near
that disc at all--The penalties are much to risky...

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: BILL WOLFORD                           Number: 1198
  To: BILL DEERTZ                              Date: 06/24/93  5:30p
Subj: Mitsumi drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Yes, you can run up to two  Mitsumi's on the same interface card.  I

Bill, how are you running two on the same card? Thanks...

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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 1199
  To: JOSEPH WOLFSON                           Date: 06/21/93 11:28a
Subj: Re: 7th guest trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <15 Jun 93  00:36:00>, Joseph Wolfson (1:374/31) writes:
 >Sears carries it for $59 at all it's stores......
You shouldn't spout information you don't know. Our Sears in Casper, Wyoming
wants $79, as I'm sure most do. Sears almost _always_ charges MSRP, or real
close to it. They must have made a mistake at yours, because they would never
sell it that cheap.


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 1200
  To: BRAD MARSH                               Date: 06/21/93 11:31a
Subj: Sony Drivers                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <15 Jun 93  15:43:02>, Brad Marsh (1:153/951) writes:
 >Any one have the latest CD drivers for the Sonys
I have version 1.27a. If you send me blanks 3 or 5" disk and $2, I will copy
it for ya. Do note, however, that some versions of their drivers will not
work with some of their drives. You also have to be careful to use v1.22a if
you are using a Soundblaster to control it.


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 1201
  To: BOB TROTMAN                              Date: 06/21/93 11:34a
Subj: 7th Guest...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <16 Jun 93  19:32:00>, Bob Trotman (1:369/32) writes:
 >The 7th Guest supports both of these video modes. It also needs a fast 
 >computer like a 386/33/40, at least 512k on fast video board and a CDrom 
 >that can transfer at least 150k per second. 4 megs of ram on the mother 
 >board, and a sound card. This game isn't very demanding now is it?
To me it's not that demanding, but of course, working in a computer store
helps <g>. Basically, what you are saying is that if your system runs Windows
decently, it will run this game..


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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 1202
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/24/93 11:41a
Subj: trade??                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

wanted a used external cd rom drive.  want to trade a Canon photo copier
machine for it, model  pc-20.   in excellent condition.
leave  message here, or call bbs line   813-934-3307
thanks
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1203
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 06/24/93  1:51p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Another "cleaning out some of the stuff from my apartment so that I can
walk around without stepping on it" sale.

CDRoms for sale:

       CICA Windows (Dec)           $10.00
       US History                   $15.00
       Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00
       Battle Chess (not ehhanced)  $ 5.00
       Wing Commander I complete    $10.00
       Time Tables of History S+I   $15.00
       Ultima 1-6                   $20.00
       Toolworks game pack 1        $10.00
       Sherlock Holmes 1            $15.00
       Simtel 20 MSDos (Dec)        $10.00
       Masterpiece Library          $25.00
       Family Doctor                $25.00
       Greatest Books 150           $20.00
       NASA Voyager Image data set only
         (there are 12 of these, 3 for each planet voyager 1 and 2
          visited, 0% duplication of data between roms, over 7 GIG
          of image data, comes with disk containing software nedded
          to view images, which are in some strange NASA format, will
          sell set for $85)
       Garbo CD (MSDos/Mac)         $15.00
       Animals                      $20.00

Reply here or Netmail, whichever you prefer...


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From: EARL BONSER                            Number: 1204
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/24/93  7:36p
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den In               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Yes, I am....and I don't of any publisher "ASP" approved--For the most
part
-> I specialize in "XXX" CD's, and have only done one shareware disc and one
-> clipArt disc--The shareware disc we are working on now requires we peek
at
-> each file closely to see if it is forbidden on CD--Don't believe the
"ASP"
-> has made alot of noise about what we do---Have you heard something to the
-> contrary ? Are you affliated with "ASP" ?

There are some ASP approved vendors that produce CD's, but none approved for
an
ASP CD (yet, one will be out sometime this summer I believe).  There is a
lot
of chatter from ASP authors in the Fido ASP conference and on CompuServe
saying
that they don't want their programs distributed on a CD and that their DOC
files say so.  Some are even threatening to sue if they find their stuff on
a
CD.  Could just be a lot of big noise from little people that don't
understand
that distribution is what makes their $$ for them, but there may be one or
two
of them that are hard headed enough to follow up on their threats just to
look
like big shots to their fellow shareware authors.
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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 1205
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/24/93 11:38p
Subj: NEC drive for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NEC external CDROM CDR36 w/8bit controller...$190..........used

James F. Porter
(813) 345-7297
 þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Who said that Interstellar Empires don't exit?


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1206
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 06/25/93  2:50a
Subj: Animals Rom                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> If this is the San Diego Zoo: The Animals, I would like to offer you $17
>> delivered.  Please let me know...thanks !!

    Sorry, already sold for the full $20 + shipping.


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1207
  To: DENNIS STERNER                           Date: 06/25/93  2:52a
Subj: SELLIN' SOME ROMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> I'll offer $220 for everything.

    Sorry, already sold a bunch of the Roms.


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From: BOB BRYANT                             Number: 1208
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/24/93  5:59p
Subj: Hello                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anybody over here in this here area?

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From: JOE MCDANIEL                           Number: 1209
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/24/93  9:06p
Subj: animation                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone know of a good adult animations cd that is bbs ready. Im lookin
for
one that has nothing but dl's ... gl's .... and fli's.... Thanks and can send
catalogs to Big Joe's BBS  1628 N sorenson ln  Las Vegas, Nv 89115
                          Joe
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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 1210
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 06/24/93 12:46p
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Dave!

In a message to Doug Carpenter <06/22/93> Dave Reed wrote:

DR> Hello Doug!

DR> Sunday June 20 1993, Doug Carpenter writes to Mark Abbacchi:

DR>  DC> This was an interesting message over on RIME:

DR> That's the down-side to accepting pre-orders for any product.  I like Bor
DR> approach:  Accept orders after the product is looking you in the face.  ;

DR> Later,

DR> Dave.

I completely agree with you Dave.. however, since we had spent THOUSANDS
of dollars on promotion and product with Mr. Armenia over the past 5 - 6
months.... we certainly didn't expect to get the shaft... we expected to
sell disks... make him money.. and us too... well.. we still want to
make money, obviously..  HE DOESN'T!  (Except other than the $800 that
he kept that we sent him.. and NEVER sent the disks we ordered!)

Mark



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From: GRAHAM KENDALL                         Number: 1211
  To:                                          Date: 06/24/93  8:47p
Subj: NEW NEC CD ROM FOR SALE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a new NEC CDR-25 CD ROM for sale.  The warranty card is still
unwrapped and can be sent in for a 2 year warranty.  I have a cable and
driver for a Mac, but this will also work on DOS machines(call NEC for a DOS
driver). Am asking $250.
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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 1212
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/24/93  9:08p
Subj: cd info                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JS>> JK> numbers for the whole CD...Total megs & Total # of  
                                                                       
If you're using DOS 5 or 6, try "DIR/S <drive>" where <drive> is the letter
(and colon) of your CD drive. 

Yup- but its S..l..o..w! I advised "JK" (sorry, I forgot his name) of a nice
utility on the Megademo cd called Checkcd that'll work faster with the same
results. :) BTW, I'm sure poeple are waiting for your first review using your
new cd "system", what cd are you going to be reviewing first? -Later
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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 1213
  To: BEN NATION                               Date: 06/24/93  9:18p
Subj: Hot Pix1                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BN>Sorry the cheapest I can get it is $75, everyone else is selling them
BN>around $100 plus shipping and handling. I can at least save you $25, and 

Ben-

Thank. Mabey after the tape backup, video card & more memory. Must be pretty
"Raunchy" for $75! :) -Later

P.S. Tim- Sorry for the off topic chit-chat.

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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 1214
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/23/93  8:31a
Subj: CD WinBox User Manuale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC> DP> Damar Enterprises has just released a 
DC>DP> professionally bound USER MANUAL to its 
DC>DP> distributors and dealers.  This USER MANUAL covers 
DC>DP> all the file descriptions 
DC>DP> found on the BRAND NEW CD WinBox.  A complete FILE 
DC>DP> INDEX allows you quick 
 
DC>Oh yeah? <g>.  Will I get some when I guy the Winbox for resale from my 
DC>distributor? 
 
The manual is sold seperately from the actual disk.  Check with your
distributor 
to see if they already carry it (sold seperately from us, perhaps bundled by
the 
distributor...)  Let me know if you need some assistance getting them. 
 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
The CD PowerBox Guys! 
 
 
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From: CHARLES HELD                           Number: 1215
  To: DON NAST                                 Date: 06/24/93 10:14a
Subj: Pas                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Have a friend who is having difficulty getting his Windows audio CD
>player to work with Pro Audio and Windows 3.1....for some
>reason the MCICDA.DRV driver supplied with windows does not
>work....is there another driver from PAS??

    Yeah, Media Vision has a BBS but I don't have the number handy.
 Call their Customer Service line (800-845-5870) and ask what the BBS # is.

    Charles
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From: CHARLES HELD                           Number: 1216
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/24/93 10:16a
Subj: Sellin' some roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Another "cleaning out some of the stuff from my apartment so that I can
>walk around without stepping on it" sale.
>
>CDRoms for sale:
>
>   Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00


    Is this the Windows version?  If so I will take it.

    Charles Held
    704-332-0092 (w 8:30-5:30 Eastern M-F)
    704-536-6991 (h)
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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 1217
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/25/93 12:32p
Subj: Computer trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Is anyone looking to buy a new computer AND have a CD-ROM for sale?I'll 
 give a pretty good discount on the system.I will accept almost any drive.
 I will consider other trades too.

 Scott Petersen



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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 1218
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 06/25/93  6:04a
Subj: Re: CD Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KP> MK> 1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height
KP> Enclosure with
KP> MK>    power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for
KP> I/O, and 90-
KP> MK>    240 VAC universal input.  $215.00
KP> MK>
KP>
KP>   Do you have more than one of these drives ??  These are the drives
KP> that you
KP> can connect four all together, Right ?? I might be buying the 4 then.

Depending on how many drives you currently have connected to your SCSI
card, you could connect up to 6 of these drives.

205-837-5053


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 1219
  To: RUSTY MINNICH                            Date: 06/23/93  7:08p
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>BF>>PF>sysop of Sputnik BBS (4:802/7) <--

>BF>FidoNet uses zones up to 6....

 Where is zone 4 at?

South America - I just saw a posting from a BBS in Brazil that had a Zone 4
addreess, anyway....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 1220
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 06/23/93 11:36p
Subj: $$$                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>first of all you should have accepted my check, it is a business check

In 3 years of running Brice's Library, the ONLY check I ever had bounce was a
business check.

>when the ups guy told me that you would not take my check i said
>fine and handed him a hundred dollar bill..... he did not want to break it

Sounds like you should be complaining to the UPS person's manager....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 1221
  To: CHARLES HILT                             Date: 06/24/93  6:52p
Subj: CD-WORLD SPECIAL                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Hi, have an IBM (TBBS) bbs in Burbank, Ca. Hve beenwanting to support Mac
>users

There is at least one Mac support BBS Sysop that hangs out in the TBBS echo,
think he runs 16-line version....


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From: PAUL HAMMERSCHMIDT                     Number: 1222
  To: JIM SHARRER                              Date: 06/24/93  3:16a
Subj: Re: problem with a cd                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I overheard Jim Sharrer saying to Paul Hammerschmidt something about
Re: problem with a cd

Hi Jim Sharrer!
 -> Thanks Jim... I was kinda sure that's what the problem was. Where did
 -> you get yours cleaned "invasively"???

 JS> I did it.  Wasn't too hard really...just took a small air compressor
 JS> to it, and then cleaned the 'lens' of the laser.  It's worked fine ever
 JS> since.  Good luck with it.

Hmmmm.... I did the same, but without removing the drive. It's still acting
up. The CD has a few scratches on it, but that shouldn't matter (at least it
doesn't with Audio CD's....). Other CD's work just fine.  

Thanks again,
Paul 
... Commit the oldest sins the newest kind of ways.
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 1223
  To: BRIAN WHEATLEY                           Date: 06/23/93  9:04p
Subj: Re: Mail List.                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Can you please put me on your Mailing List, Thanks.
Hi Brian, in September, we will be in computer show in Burnaby. You can come
and visit us there. TTYL 

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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1224
  To: KEVIN WILLIAMS                           Date: 06/24/93  3:04p
Subj: Toshiba XM 3301b                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Kevin I responded only last night to your message and am very in
terested and would like for you to call me at home (206) 762-0429.
That is the Toshiba 3301 cdrom that I am refering to.  Please call at
anytime someone will be home, either my wife or myself. 
    I did try to call your BBS but it seems to be down as I am sure you


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From: CARL MONTANTE                          Number: 1225
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 06/24/93  7:17p
Subj: Sony 31A                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello,

I have a question for anyone familiar with the Sony CD-Rom Drives.
Can The Sony 31A Cd-Rom be daisy chained with a Sony 535 Drive?

 
                                Thanks 
                                 Carl
 
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From: LUC SIENAERT                           Number: 1226
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/22/93  9:55a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jim Lambert wrote in a message to All:

 JL> If you are looking for prices on the latest CD-Roms, give us

If you deliver outside the USA:

Lucas Visions
Kerkstraat 34
B-2850 Belgium (Europe)

Greetings,
           Luc

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From: JOSH BERRY                             Number: 1227
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 06/24/93  7:45a
Subj: HELP... please!!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to ALL, Shane Snyder said:
SS> I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM, which I can not load the driver for
SS> now that I 
SS> have upgraded to DOS 6.0...   Even with the SETVER
SS> installed, it stilkl 
SS> gives me the "incorrect DOS version" error.  Anyone have any
SS> ideas???
SS>                       Any info. will be GREATLY appreciated! 
SS> Shane

        Where did you get your mscdex file? if you are using the one that
came with dos 6 then don't load setver, if you are using another figure out
what dos it is for than at the dos prompt type setver mscdex.exe 3.3, where
3.3 is the dos version that you want mscdex to think its running in.
later...
                                        Josh
P.S. be sure that in your autoexec.bat it reads c:\dos\mscdex, not
c:\windows\mscdex, or the directory where the mitsumi drives are.
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 1228
  To: RICHARD VONZEL                           Date: 06/24/93  2:05a
Subj: RE: OLD MITSUMI'S                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RV>   I have 2 internal of them for sale, 175.00 each.. You can netmail 
RV> me   at 1:282/27.

Sorry Richard, but thats way to much for the older drives. The new 340ms
drives are selling for around $195.00 

-Joe
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 1229
  To: CHRIS BARRETT                            Date: 06/22/93 10:06p
Subj: FLORIDA LION'S DEN IN                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->   By the sounds of this message you are a producer. Just curious, but
-> are you
-> and all you fellow producers ASP approved? That could explain why
-> these authors are upset. I can't recall ever seeing a ASP approved
-> sticker on any of the CDs I have, yet I see them on the 3.5s and
-> 5.25s all the time.
   To become ASP approved, the CD-ROM manufacturer must personally
contact EACH AND EVERY author on the disc. 4000+ authors at $1.00 per
author (stamps, envelope, return S.A.S.E., etc. - that's a LOW
estimate)... it may be prohibitively expensive for some.
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1230
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93  8:53p
Subj: CLUB EXPOSE'                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                     DISTRIBUTORS WANTED
                     -------------------

We're currently seeking distributors for CLUB EXPOSE' - our new
interactive adult CD ROM title.

Exclusive distribution rights will be granted for the following
regions:  U.S.A., Europe, Asia, Central/South America, Africa,
Canada, and Australia.  Distributors will be selected based on
their integrity and ability to move product.

For more information, call.

Tim Helton

Data Express, Inc.          Voice: 404-621-9210
6799 Windfaire Dr.          FAX  : 404-621-9122
Norcross, GA 30093          FIDO :    1:133/515
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From: RICK KOSICK                            Number: 1231
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93  6:09p
Subj: LOOKING FOR CD'S?                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   Looking for the latest in CD titles?

        We have over 85 of the latest titles in Laser Compact ROM
        disc's. Stop by and check out our on-line store containing
        descriptions, .DIR files, and even .GIF images of most titles!
        We currently run 15 of the latest available discs on-line, and
        this includes the lastest in adult titles, too!

        All cd's can be ordered on-line using most major credit cards
        and all orders are shipped same day (during business hours).

             SYSOPS! Take 10% off ANY title, even sale items!
          1 month free subscription to our BBS with ANY purchase!

                       COMPU-MALL! ON-LINE SERVICES
                        by Modern BBS Development

                   (215) 638-2334 Main Data (2400 Baud)
                   (215) 638-1299 Main Data (High Speed)
                   (215) 638-1424 Voice


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From: DON RIEB                               Number: 1232
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 06/20/93  4:36a
Subj: CDROM CHANGER SOFTWARE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EEN-BY: 379/11 396/1 640/75
TK>         Good luck with your drive.   BTW do you have Pier 2 yet? 
TK> anything worthwhile for bbs use? 

Thanks for the information on that Ezrom, it looks like it will work for me.

I have Pier 1, but I keep all the cd's current.  I will check Pier 2 out
and if it is then I will order some.

I have seen a lot of the sysops getting the Monster disk (2 disk set) and 
the Shareware Extravaganza (4 disk set) for there BBS's as it has no 
duplicate files or duplicate file bases.   Each disk has different file
bases so if you have 2 or 4 cd rom drives online it comes out realy optimized
in space, so you don't wast any with duplicates.  Also then you have a 
realy large amount of file bases that are not skimpy in size.  Download
CDROMCAT.ZIP from the SaveWare Computer Shopping BBS at 708-724-2427 or
FREQ it from 1:115/724.  

Thanks again for your help!!

** Don Rieb **
President of SaveWare

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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1233
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 06/21/93  7:59p
Subj: HITACHI 3500 INTERNAL                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

5
Matt I am very interested in the Hitachi cd-rom drive and was wondering
if you would take $80 plus s/h or trade for a logitech hand scanner.
If we do deal I wouold need some help on finding a SCSI con. for the
critter.  Thanks chad (206) 762-0429 voice


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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1234
  To: KEVIN WILLIAMS                           Date: 06/21/93  8:02p
Subj: TOSHIBA XM 3301B                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

209/209 273/10 60
I would like to  know some details about this cd rom drive.
    speed, size, come with SCSI con., price you are looking for etc.
Please call me at home (206) 762-0429


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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1235
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/21/93  8:16p
Subj: TRADE FOR CD-ROM                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

96/1 209/209 273/10 60
I have a LOGITECH HANDSCANNER that I would liketo trade for a cd-rom
drive (500+ms) or partial trade plus$ on a faster (350+ms) drive.
Please leave a message or call me at home at (206) 762-0429


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From: MATTHEW HUDSON                         Number: 1236
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/22/93  8:18a
Subj: CD TRADE...                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 327/1 379/11 396/1 2615/2
I will trade one of the following for either CICA Windows (Apr 93) or
Simtel 20 (Apr 93)...

Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective Vol I
World Atlas Ver 3.2.1
Ultima VI & Wing Commander.

All the docs are included...

LtF,

Matthew Hudson @ 1:18/14.4

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From: CHRIS BARRETT                          Number: 1237
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/24/93  1:15p
Subj: Florida Lion's Den In                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Yes, I am....and I don't of any publisher "ASP" approved--For the
 > most part I specialize in "XXX" CD's, and have only done one
 > shareware disc and one clipArt disc--The shareware disc we are
 > working on now requires we peek at each file closely to see if it is
 > forbidden on CD--Don't believe the "ASP" has made alot of noise about
 > what we do---Have you heard something to the contrary ? Are you
 > affliated with "ASP" ?

    No, not at all. I was just curious to know if the recent court action a
few CD producers had been refering to was in anyway related to the ASP
society.

                                                        Chris

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From: TYLER EVERNDEN                         Number: 1238
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/24/93  8:18p
Subj: For-Sale?                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anybody got a good CD-ROM drive for sale cheap?

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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 1239
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 06/23/93  3:11p
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > VC> Wonderingwhat happened to your address so I could pay you for
 >  VC> the Cream of the Crop CD.
 >  VC> Or your phone number, if you take Vise/MC.

I can't mail you a check or postal money order to avoid the COD charge ?
I believe the CD was $19.95 + $2.90 for shipping - for a total of $22.85,
Is this okay ?

Vikki

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From: SAM FERTITTA                           Number: 1240
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/24/93  4:28p
Subj: Re: sellin' some roms                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Eric Bravick to All Users <=-

 EB> Another "cleaning out some of the stuff from my apartment so that I
 EB> can walk around without stepping on it" sale.

 EB> CDRoms for sale:

 Eric, I will take this....

 EB> Ultima 1-6                   $20.00

 And is this the San Diegos Animals, for Windows?


 EB> Animals                      $20.00

 Reply here, or call me at 716-383-0754, 5-10 e.s.t, thanks..
 Sam



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From: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                       Number: 1241
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 06/24/93 11:59p
Subj: Re: Pier 2????                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

That's pretty much an incredible story, but very believable. We need to fill
3 cd roms with BBS shareware, and was considering the Pier series. In fact,
if memory serves, didn't the Night Owls series come from Greg Armenia and
Richard something-or-other- but they split because of this type of occurance?
I wonder if a boycott of the Pier 1/2 CDs is in order....

I'm for capitalism and the free market - supply and demand, and your
situation is a textbook example of price fixing! No more Pier!

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From: NILE DHARAMCY                          Number: 1242
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/25/93  8:38p
Subj: Wanted: Cd-Roms                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Howdy everyone,
        I buy cd-roms. Must see them operate. Will pay upto $ 150.
      
       Neil
       713-370-7816

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From: DONALD MACKAY                          Number: 1243
  To: SCOTT HUNSINGER                          Date: 06/25/93  9:37a
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Scott!

SH>CD's for sale:

SH>Wing Commander II Deluxe Edition

How much for the above?

ttyl /usr/dan
___
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From: DANIEL HALL                            Number: 1244
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/25/93 10:11p
Subj: adult interactive softwar               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

what is this ?


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From: DANNY TONG                             Number: 1245
  To: YANGKUN ZHANG                            Date: 06/21/93 12:02a
Subj: The 7th guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PJ> Is it a shareWare cd?
DT> No.  But you can buy it for under $50.
YZ> Where from?

I bought mines from Price Club for $49.  Costco has it for $45. The two
just merged to form Price Club/Costco.


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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 1246
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 06/24/93  6:37a
Subj: HELP... PLEASE!!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > have upgraded to DOS 6.0...   Even with the SETVER installed, it 
 > stilkl 
 > gives me the "incorrect DOS version" error.  Anyone have any 
 > ideas???

DOS V6 has it's own MSCDEX.EXE Get rid or all other copies and use the DOS 6
version.. That should help! You should try to find the utility FIND I will
check your full HD for files.. The funny thing is that you can't "read" the
version # of the NEW MSCDEX.EXE with the LIST utility it appeared that
Microsoft encoded it??????????????  good luck..

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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 1247
  To: JIM TAYLOR                               Date: 06/24/93  6:44a
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS REVIEW                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Go for it. If "we" users make reviews then maby if a product is "panned"
they'll upgrade the quality???

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 1248
  To: CHARLES STRUSZ @ 970/201                 Date: 06/25/93  7:42a
Subj: Pier 2 desc.,ra bbs                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS>I'd like to freq those now!  What's the Magic Name? 
 
 CONVDIRS.ZIP , it's a little util to convert FROM standard files.bbs 
format TO: 
        GT Power 
        GAP 
        WWIV 
        QuickBBS 
        Spitfire 
 
...hope you can find it of as much use as I do!  Feel free to freq from 
me (16.8 Dual) at 1:2601/566 
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From: BILL GEE                               Number: 1249
  To: STEVE LEU                                Date: 06/25/93  8:51p
Subj: Wanted: Sony CDU-541                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SL>I'm looking for Sony CDU-541 internal SCSI drives (new or used).  Please
repl
SL>back if you have any for sale.

I bought mine at Computer Discount Warehouse for US$418.  800-795-4239.
Good service, well-informed phone rep.  I saw it in Computer Shopper for
US$399, but I don't remember the name of the place.  The CDW price is for
the bare drive - no host adapter, no drivers, no mounting kit, no bundled
applications.

Bill Gee
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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 1250
  To: WADE NORTON                              Date: 06/25/93  8:55a
Subj: CLIPART CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



WN>Mike,  I can't add much to your quest.  However, I too was dissapointed
with
  >Clipart Goliath.  I recently purchased Enclyclopedia of Clipart "PCX
  >Potpourri"
  >and it isn't much better.  To get the 300 DPI it appears we are going to
hav
  >to pay for it.

Thanks for the tip. I will let you know if I find anything worth having!
please do the same for me. I intend to find some decent clipart
somewhere, I just don't want to have to buy a bunch of stuff I could
never use. All you publishers out there, take head! WE WANT QUALITY
CLIPART FOR DTP WITHOUT A BUNCH OF UNUSABLE TRASH (75 DPI) AND DUPES!!!
 þ QMPro 1.50 22-2345 þ MSI HQ! BBS þ 805-395-0650 Home of QmodemPro!


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 1251
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/24/93  6:37a
Subj: Nautilus CD                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a cd called Nautilus CD which I would like to trade for almost
anything, the reason why I want to trade is because it's full of
digitized video and my cd player is to slow to handle it, plus I really
dislike having to deal with Windows 3.1
It's dated
March 1993 Vol3-3
Must run in Windows 3.1, also has a few .WAV's, .WRI's and some anotehr
neat demos!
                                  Thanks,
      All offers considered, if you want to just buy it, state your
price?!
                                  Sam Figueroa
Sam's Software
(615) 728-7383
Manchester's Best Shareware Distributer!!!

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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 1252
  To: TIM MUTH                                 Date: 06/25/93 11:28p
Subj: Re: modem                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TM> Chris:
 TM> I've picked up a USRobotics 14400 modem but i'm still dnloaading
 TM> at 2400.
 TM> Why?
 TM> Tim

   What's its access time and transfer rate?Note..this is CD-ROM echo.
   
   

... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: JASON HINES                            Number: 1253
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93  4:36a
Subj: CD WANTED                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm wanting an external CD ROM no slower than 500 MS for sale in the $150
price range. Please reply. 

J
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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 1254
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 06/23/93 12:00a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Your ad is still not readable.  Each line appears to be shifted in a stagered
manner so it is broken up.


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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 1255
  To: BEN BARTON                               Date: 06/23/93 12:03a
Subj: WANTED PHILLIPS CM-100                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I do have a Philips CM-100 CD-ROM external drive complete with cable,
drivers, original box, and programming manual.  It has not been used very
much and is in excellent condition.  If you're interested, leave a message
here or call me at 719-495-0495, in the evening or weekends, Colorado time.
 

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From: AJ BROWN                               Number: 1256
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/25/93  5:18p
Subj: CD-ROM Drive For Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Everyone!

I have a Chinon SCSI Internal CDS-435 CD-ROM drive for sale. Avg. Access
time is around 340MS / 150 KB transfer rate. SCSI controller included,
original software, manual, and box. Around 7 months old. No longer have
a use for this fine drive. Asking $260.00 OBO (Originally $375.00) Still
under Chinon's 5 year guarantee. Reply in this echo, FidoNet 1:3616/60,
or my BBS (404) 536-1609 - 24 Hrs. Thank you. :)

AJ Brown

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 1257
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/25/93  9:56a
Subj: Re: PCX POTPOURRI                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <06-23-93 12:10> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> I'd like to know about the picture book, too, Lee.

Yup, the book has been subcontracted out, and it should be out this summer
(late)--It is one monumnetal task, but I did see the first 50 pages of the
book so far, and it looks dynamite ! Will let you know !

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 1258
  To: JACK BROWN                               Date: 06/25/93  9:57a
Subj: Re: Nix pix                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <06-23-93 18:23> Jack Brown wrote:

JB>> A CD-ROM catalog put out by a local BBS indicated that the Nix Pix
JB>> disks are from the same company that published Busty Babes.  I knew
JB>> you published the latter - did you also publish the former?

No Babe, Windy City Fortress does the Nix Pix series (Out of Chicago).

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 1259
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/25/93 10:06a
Subj: Re:   INFO WANTED!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <06-23-93 12:06> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> The Romulus seems to indicate they're available now; did you say it
BJ>> would be the end of July? What do you think the street price will be
BJ>> if MSRP is $129. ?

Don't know but they did say they had doubts that this type of project could
be done, and low and behold they did it--So I will also assume a hefty price
tag too--

-=>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: ZACHARY ELWYN                          Number: 1260
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/25/93  1:19a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TW>ZE>I'm running a 486 33 VESA local bus w/ a cirrus logic 1MB video card,
TW>4MB of
TW>ZE>RAM, a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 all connected w/ a Seagate WREN 9 (2.2
TW>Gigabyte
TW>ZE>hard drive w/ a Adaptech 1542C SCSI II Controller.  The Demo will run
TW>only i
TW>ZE>MCGA mode, and the actual program hangs at the command line after
TW>starting t
TW>ZE>CD Audio section.  Anybody else have a similar problem??

TW>I assume you got the fix off of their BBS which allows VLB
TW>Cirrus cards
TW>to work?

TW> * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * A career is a job that takes about 20
TW>more hours a week.


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TW>(1:369/14.0)
 
Well, actually, I didn't know there was a bug to fix, so thanks for the
info, I'll try and call them right away.
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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 1261
  To: IAN LEVSTEIN                             Date: 06/25/93  9:18a
Subj: Sony 31A & SBPro                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <21 Jun 93  04:46:00>, Ian Levstein (1:249/121) writes:
 >I'd like to hook up the audio output of my new Sony 31A to my 
 >SoundBlaster Pro, but it seems that the audio cable connectors are not 
 >compatible.  Any suggestions?
Take out the documtation (no, not the docs!), look at the pin outs for them
both, and try to wire up something. It won't look pretty, but hey.


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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1262
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/24/93  9:45p
Subj: USED CD ROM DRIVES                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

i REALLY WOULD LIKE TO FIND SOMEONT TO TRRADE  A lOGITECH HAND SCCANNER
FOR a used cd rom drive with something of  a controler card.  Thee
drive can be old or new but would be interested in adding some$ to a
drive that has a faster speed and better than 150k transfer.  Please
call (206) 762-0429


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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1263
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93  2:34a
Subj: Cd drives, software, &c.                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600 Mastercard &
Visa accepted. Posted on 06/26/93, @ 02:07.
-------------------------------------------------------------- Tempra Media
Solutions from Mathematica                Price
-------------------------------------------------------------- Vision (great
for kids, w/GIF & SHOW)                     $53 Access (tool for loading
Kodak Photo images)              $23 Gif (tool for image editing & video)    
                 $45 Tempra                                                  
 $61 Show (integtrate graphics w/audio, video, animation)     $109 Turbo
Animator                                           $174 Pro                  
                                   $291 Media Author                         
                   $585 CD-Maker                                             
 $1,469 --------------------------------------------------------------
Gatekeeper by Firstlight                               Price
-------------------------------------------------------------- Gatekeeper
(multimedia presentation w/ video)             $85
-------------------------------------------------------------- Phillips
CD-ROM drives & bundles                       Price
-------------------------------------------------------------- internal
CD-ROM                                          $193 internal CD-ROM w/kit   
                                $238 internal CD-ROM w/kit & bundle          
                $315 external CD-ROM w/kit                                   
$390 external CD-ROM w/kit & bundle                           $444 Explorer
internal bundle                                 $376 Revolution internal
bundle                               $433 Revolution-16 internal bundle      
                     $458
-------------------------------------------------------------- Texel CD-ROM
drives                                    Price
-------------------------------------------------------------- internal
CD-ROM                                          $404 external CD-ROM         
                                $501
-------------------------------------------------------------- Chinon CD-ROM
drives                                   Price
-------------------------------------------------------------- internal
CD-ROM 435                                      $316 external CD-ROM 435     
                                $438 internal CD-ROM 535                     
                $401 external CD-ROM 535                                     
$517 -------------------------------------------------------------- CD-ROM
software (w/ drive purchase)                    Price
-------------------------------------------------------------- Software
Toolworks Encyclopedia Illustrated               $30 Game Pack II            
                                 $19 Publish It!                             
                 $17 Reference Library                                       
 $17 Wing commander II/Ultima VI                               $16 Software
Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia                $34 Animals Multimedia      
                                 $14 Deluxe Pack MPS (World/USA Atlas, Mavis
Beacon Teaches)   $34 World/USA Atals Multimedia Pack                        
  $15 Comptons Family Choice                                    $20
Micrografx Graphics Works LE for Windows                  $20 Selectware
Jukebox                                        $11 Mammals                   
                               $20 Nautilus Multimedia magazine              
                $8
-------------------------------------------------------------- Prices &
spec's subject to change without notice. Best time to call: 7-10 AM & 9-12 PM
Mon - Fri, all day Sat & Sun (EASTERN)

===
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1264
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/25/93  8:01a
Subj:  ADULT CD PRICE$                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> TS>> regarding Nix Pix I, your reply seemed somewhat short. <g>.  
                                                                       
  
I traded away my copy 'cuz I didn't even want it in the house. 
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 1265
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 06/25/93 12:45a
Subj: HELP... please!!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SS> that I have upgraded to DOS 6.0...   Even with the SETVER installed, 
SS> it stilkl gives me the "incorrect DOS version" error.  Anyone have 
SS>                      any ideas??? Any info. will be GREATLY 
 
Did you make sure when you installed dos 6 that your command.com was not 
read only and hidden?  If you didn't, that might be the problem. 
 
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From: KEITH SHEEHAN                          Number: 1266
  To: ANDREA HEARN                             Date: 06/21/93 10:46p
Subj: FREE CD-ROM CATALOGS!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in receiving one of your catalogs. Please send one to the
following address:

        Keith W. Sheehan
        539 Lake Park Dr.
        Addison, IL 60101

Thank You.



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From: KEITH SHEEHAN                          Number: 1267
  To: WADE NORTON                              Date: 06/21/93 10:59p
Subj: CLIPART CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Try KEY Clip art. It is designed by a professional clip art studio and can be
found at stores like Egghead, CompUSA, Electronics Botique & Babbage's. It
varys in cost between different places but you can get it for about $22 if
you look.

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From: KEITH SHEEHAN                          Number: 1268
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/21/93 11:04p
Subj: NEW CD'S FOR JUNE!!!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you 1) have a catalog? and 2) have any OS/2 shareware CD-ROMs? If so
please send me more information. My address is as follows:
        Keith Sheehan
        539 Lake Park Dr
        Addison, IL 60101

Thank You.



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From: VERNON MELTON                          Number: 1269
  To: JIM HUSBAND                              Date: 06/25/93  1:50p
Subj: Re: FOR TRADE - MAGAZINEI               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                -=> Quoting Jim Husband to Vernon Melton <=-

 JH> Does it simply translate typed text, or does it
 JH> also serve as a Language dictionary and/or Language tutor?
Jim,
    Thats OK.  It will translate word by word, i.e. highlight a word and it
will translate it.  Some what cumbersome but it works.  It also is a series
of dictionarys.  Hope this helps.  Now, how about that trade?
Later,
      Vernon Melton
 
... Two wrongs do not make a right, it takes three or more.
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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 1270
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93  8:06a
Subj: CD_ROM Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Both Models Include:  60 day Warranty, External DIP switches, 50 pin SCSI
  350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM
  installed.  Refurbished.  5.25 - HH Drive. 64k Buffer.

Still have a few left.

205-837-5053 




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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1271
  To: CHARLES HELD                             Date: 06/25/93 11:15p
Subj: Sellin' some roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> >   Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00
>>
>> Is this the Windows version?  If so I will take it.

    Sorry, sold it.


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From: BRIAN NEWBERG                          Number: 1272
  To: LOOKIN FOR A SERVICE                     Date: 06/26/93  7:03a
Subj: Re: Cd rom burners                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a database that is approximately 600 megabytes when complete.  I am
looking for a service that will put it on CD rom for a reasonable price...
I will need between 20 to 100 copies of it depending on how much I market it.
I am willing to pay 50-60 dollars per copy to get them on CD rom but not
willing to buy 4600$ Rom drive....

If I don't find the service by november my customers will have to buy hard
drives... imagine thier suprise at needing a 350 meg (or larger) hard drive.

Brian Newberg
Call me voice @904-264-2372

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1273
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 06/27/93  6:41a
Subj: Cd drives, software, &c.                Refer: 4706
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Kodak Photo images)              $23 Gif (tool for image editing & vi
->                  $45 Tempra
->  $61 Show (integtrate graphics w/audio, video, animation)     $109 Tu
-> Animator                                           $174 Pro
->                                    $291 Media Author
->                    $585 CD-Maker

Patrick, every one of your ads is like this... I get dizzy trying to
read um...

YOUR LINE LENGTH IS TOO LONG.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1274
  To: BRIAN NEWBERG                            Date: 06/27/93  6:41a
Subj: Re: Cd rom burners                      Refer: 4715
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> I have a database that is approximately 600 megabytes when complete.

What kind of database?

-> looking for a service that will put it on CD rom for a reasonable pri
-> I will need between 20 to 100 copies of it depending on how much I ma
-> I am willing to pay 50-60 dollars per copy to get them on CD rom but
-> willing to buy 4600$ Rom drive....

Some manufacturing plants have minimum orders of 300 discs... A 300 disc
order with mastering would be about 2 grand.

tim
moderator
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From: DAN DOCHSTADER                         Number: 1275
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/26/93 12:27p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     Hi Mike, I need your business number. Thanks...

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 1276
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 06/26/93  9:05a
Subj: Re: FLORIDA LION'S DEN IN               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> ->   By the sounds of this message you are a producer. Just curious, but
> -> are you
> -> and all you fellow producers ASP approved? That could explain why
> -> these authors are upset. I can't recall ever seeing a ASP approved
> -> sticker on any of the CDs I have, yet I see them on the 3.5s and
> -> 5.25s all the time.
> To become ASP approved, the CD-ROM manufacturer must personally
> contact EACH AND EVERY author on the disc. 4000+ authors at $1.00 per
> author (stamps, envelope, return S.A.S.E., etc. - that's a LOW
> estimate)... it may be prohibitively expensive for some.
Plus not every author wants to be ASP member. To me for a shareware author,
it is a great privilidge to distribute his/her program on CD-ROM at low cost
and a mass method. TTYL 

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1277
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/26/93  9:51a
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: 06/28/93  6:52a                       Private: No 

 TH> Without steps 2-4, a product won't be promoted.  If a product isn't
 TH> promoted, the product won't sell.  If the product doesn't sell, nobody
 TH> makes money.  If nobody makes money, what's the use?

Doesn't make any sense to me either.  Just thought it was an interesting
message....

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1278
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 06/26/93  9:51a
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DR> That's the down-side to accepting pre-orders for 
 DR> any product.  I like Boris' approach:  Accept 
 DR> orders after the product is looking you in the 
 DR> face.  ;-)

That is one reason I'm not taking preorders for Nightowl 9.  I have an order
in with a distributor, but they stated up front, they don't know what their
price is yet.  Reminds you of Nightowl 8, huh? <g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1279
  To: MIKE MCGUIRE                             Date: 06/26/93 10:03a
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MM> I just walked in on this, more info please...Phone 
 MM> #, Payment Options, Address, etc..... 

I have the Digital Dreams in stock for $28.  You caan order is by calling
800-547-7817.  We accept most plastic with no surcharges.  Or send a money
order to PCJ Computing, 323 Tn Nursery Rd., Cleveland, TN  37311.
Add $4 for shipping.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1280
  To: DOUG STRIEFLER                           Date: 06/26/93 10:14a
Subj: Cd rom burners                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DS> Does anyone know of any good deals on cd rom burners

 DS> preferably the Phillips model
 
How about $4,800?  I can get you one for that plus shipping and handling.
Let me know if interested.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1281
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 06/26/93 10:20a
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 1/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 KR> What exactly is "Dictionaries and Languages"?  Does it include a
 KR> translater program?

We have the Dictionaries and Languages in stock for $15.  It contains
dictionaries, thesauruses, word processors, style/syntax checkers,
glossaries, lessons in several languages, humorous glossaries, crossword
solvers, cryptogram solvers, industry specific spell checkers, latest
versions of the top shareware word processors, etc.  It has such items as
multilingual word processors, with verb/conjugators/translators for Czech,
Spanish, French, Italian, etc.  Have in stock if interested.  Give us a call
24 hours at 800-547-7817 to order or 615-339-0235.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1282
  To: JACK BROWN                               Date: 06/26/93 10:28a
Subj: Nix pix                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mix Pix is NOT from the same company that does Busty Babes...

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1283
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93 10:29a
Subj: Our pricing                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We have the following new CDs in stock:
 
Digital Dreams     -  $28
Shareware Studio II  -  $23.95
Software Vault II    -  $23.95
Hot Pix 5         -   $28
 
We have similar pricing on many other titles.  Nightowl 8 is now only $26. 
Pier 1 is $28.
 
Give us a call at 800-547-7817 to order.  No surcharges for credit cards.  We
ship within 24 hours on in stock items.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1284
  To: STEVE O'BRIEN                            Date: 06/26/93 10:36a
Subj: CD ROM FILE LISTINGS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SO>   I am looking for (among other things) a place (BBS; a disk; paper 
 SO> (although paper wouldn't be the environmental 
 SO> choice))  that has the lists 
 SO> of most, some, one or two adult CD listings.  I 
 SO> really cannot see it as a 
 
I have file lists for a great majority of them and also for sale.  Call the
PCJ BBS at 615-478-2890 HST or 615-479-1047 v.32/14400.  They are only
available by calling this BBS.

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1285
  To: HOWARD MALKIEL                           Date: 06/26/93 11:12a
Subj: Cd rom discs to trade                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 HM> Hi everyone. I have a couple of XXX CD's that I would be willing
 HM> to trade.
 HM>       - Asian Ladies - Pretty new disc, only used 3-4 times.
 HM>       - Adult Reference Library - Also new with minimal use.

I'll offer $20 each+shipping if you decide you would sell.

 * MKRead v1.01 * Silly wabbit - QWKs are for kids


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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 1286
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 06/25/93 12:16p
Subj: .MODS, .VOCS, ECT                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Night Owl 5 has a fair chunck. Sound Sations yuck!

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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 1287
  To: KEVIN MARTIN                             Date: 06/25/93 12:21p
Subj: SLOW POST                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

6/25/93 
Hi Kevin; Have you gotten my letter yet?

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From: DOUG STRIEFLER                         Number: 1288
  To: CHARLES STRUSZ                           Date: 06/25/93 11:54p
Subj: Cd rom burners                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Charles.

Thanks for your reply regarding CD rom burners

I have a few questions for you before I pursue this

further.

1. What does the 4700 price include and what else

will have to be purchased ?

2. What is the cost of blank cd's which can be used

in this unit ?

                   Awaiting your reply

                   Thanks        Doug


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From: ANDY YEE                               Number: 1289
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/26/93 11:06a
Subj: CD-Rom Special                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

still have any left??? if you do save me one and leave me a message so I can
send away the money order right away

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From: DON NAST                               Number: 1290
  To: CHARLES HELD                             Date: 06/26/93 11:13p
Subj: Pas                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the 800 number for PAS   >don<
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 1291
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 06/26/93 12:36p
Subj: RE: DIGITAL DREAMS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> > I only mention this because I am looking for a Canadian CD
-> distributor > that desires to compete with the Americans. The only
-> one I have found to > date is Vince Sorensen (sp?) in Regina.
-> Unfortunately, he does not offer > anything I am currently looking
-> for.
    That's about to change, Don. I'll be sending you some information
right after the Toronto Comdex.
    Vince
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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 1292
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/26/93  3:07p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EB>       CICA Windows (Dec)           $10.00
EB>       US History                   $15.00
EB>       Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00
EB>       Battle Chess (not ehhanced)  $ 5.00
EB>       Wing Commander I complete    $10.00
EB>       Time Tables of History S+I   $15.00
EB>       Ultima 1-6                   $20.00
EB>       Toolworks game pack 1        $10.00
EB>       Sherlock Holmes 1            $15.00
EB>       Simtel 20 MSDos (Dec)        $10.00
EB>       Masterpiece Library          $25.00
EB>       Family Doctor                $25.00
EB>       Greatest Books 150           $20.00
EB>       NASA Voyager Image data set only
EB>         (there are 12 of these, 3 for each planet voyager 1 and 2
EB>          visited, 0% duplication of data between roms, over 7 GIG
EB>          of image data, comes with disk containing software nedded
EB>          to view images, which are in some strange NASA format, will
EB>          sell set for $85)
EB>       Garbo CD (MSDos/Mac)         $15.00
EB>       Animals                      $20.00

I'll offer you a trade.  1 brand new Quantum LPS 240 meg SCSI drive
w/full warranty for all the above...

james
813-345-7297
 þ OLX 2.1 TD þ --T-A+G-L-I+N-E--+M-E-A+S-U-R+I-N-G+--G-A+U-G-E--


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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 1293
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 06/26/93  3:08p
Subj: Cheap CD-ROM Drives                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TB> I have some used Hitachi 3500 internals for $130 each.
TB> Controller cards are $60 that will run up to 4 of these drives.

I thought these controllers would handle EIGHT of the drives?
 þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Who said that Interstellar Empires don't exit?


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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 1294
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/26/93  4:07p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE$                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike, I know you weren't interested in the hard drive trade for the
Adult CDROM's before.

Would you be interested in a 1.1 gigabyte 4mm SCSI Tape backup?
 þ OLX 2.1 TD þ FORMATING  Cyl 001  HD 05


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From: BOB SPILLERS                           Number: 1295
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 06/26/93  7:11p
Subj: Re: Which Is Best?                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EP>                                                drop in CD....close
lid...pu
EP>                                                in drive

EP>That's about all I can think of.....maybe someone can add (or delete) for
yo

EP>... Anything unsecured is mine.  Anything I can pry loose is not secured.
EP>___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

EP>---  T.A.G 2.6e
EP> * Origin: The Outland Cary,N.C. (919)380-0686 1:151/147 (1:151/147)


Thanks a lot Eddie. I now know more than I did when I sent the message.
You answered it just the way I need to keep me from getting confused. It
won't be long before I have me a CD Rom.     ITKU

                                      RwS

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 1296
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93 10:51p
Subj: Digital dreams for sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Digital Dreams for sale
NOT the Mchenry version, this is the ERO TEK version.
anyway, it is an excellent adult CD disk...perfect condition.
25.00 OBO includes shipping!


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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 1297
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93  8:24a
Subj: NO 9.0 is HERE!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                         The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 1-800-289-1ROM  FAX: (314) 521-7453
        $49.00         International 314-521-4862     $49.00

************* NIGHT OWL VERSION 9.0 IN STOCK AND SHIPPING *************


Don't be the last on your block to get Night Owl 9.0! If you snooze
you lose in the "who's got the newest shareware on their BBS" business
nowadays... so call The MARKetplace now and reserve your copy...
You'll have your copy of the MOST popular shareware disk in the
world before ANYONE in your area!

Order now at the price below, and receive the NEW Shareware Studio II
for $14.95 and get them both shipped OVERNIGHT EXPRESS for the price of
regular shipping ($5.00)!

If you don't buy from The MARKetplace... you'll be waiting tooooooo
long to get your NEW NIGHT OWL 9.0!

All 1993 files... 670+ megs... over 4700 New files... Updated Search
Engine... just simply the best release yet from one of the best
companies for Shareware CDROMs!

*********************************************************************
   VISA          1 - 8 0 0 - 2 8 9 - 1 R O M        MASTERCARD
              ---- 100s of Titles Available ----



 * WCE 1.02/2072 * Now diamonds AND AIDS are forever.


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From: RICH JACKSON                           Number: 1298
  To: HOWARD MALKIEL                           Date: 06/25/93 11:26a
Subj: Cd rom discs to trade                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Hi everyone. I have a couple of XXX CD's that I would be
 > willing to trade.
 >        - Asian Ladies - Pretty new disc, only used 3-4 times.

Howard, I have Loom, and Where in the World is Carmen Sandeigo that I'll
trade to you for your copy of Asian Ladies...


Laters !
Rich

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From: HOWARD MALKIEL                         Number: 1299
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93 11:10a
Subj: Cd's for sale or trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have three recent CD's for sale or possible trade.

       Asian Ladies

       Adult Reference Library

       Digital Dreams

     -- All Three for $90, icluding shipping costs.

     -- Will consider trades

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From: REN JUST                               Number: 1300
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/25/93  6:52a
Subj: LINUX CD-ROMs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
LINUX AND INTERNET FILES ON CD-ROM
  
LINUX, a UNIX operating system workalike now available
on CD-ROM.  Includes GNU C/C++ compiler, X-Windows,
TCP/IP, sound card support and much more.  Only $49.95.
 
Also CD-ROMs available with source code and applications
from internet servers for DOS, UNIX, Amiga, C and Mac.
Call or write for listing.
 
To receive your LINUX CD-ROM call and order with your
charge card
 
or send $49.95 + $3.00 S/H (CA residents add 7.50% tax) to:
 
Just Computers!
PO Box 751414
Petaluma  CA 94975-1414
  
Voice 707-769-1648
FAX   707-765-2447
 
Internet: uonline@infoserv.com OR rjust@delphi.com
 
Visa and MasterCard gladly accepted.
 

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1301
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  1:01a
Subj: RED HOT CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $39.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - MONSTER MEDIA '93'   PRICE - $29.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $30.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - WINBOX - GAMEWARE - CD POWERBOX    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $15. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $55. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
                     24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO


Boris Osadciw

... Oh never mind!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1302
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  2:24a
Subj: RED HOT CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $39.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - MONSTER MEDIA '93'   PRICE - $29.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $30.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - WINBOX - GAMEWARE - CD POWERBOX    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $15. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $55. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
                     24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 1303
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/21/93  9:33a
Subj: Bb/ppg                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JM>> Powerpak Gold, and who needs to hear from you about the MWARS_20
JM>> thing, is Westland Computers, of Westland, MI

LN>Know way to track them because I don't sell direct to them--If you come
LN>across them again, call me with the phone number--
LN>Thanks !

You're very welcome, I'm sure.

Funny you should ask!  When I go to a big flea market like that one, I'm in
the habit of carrying a large bag in which to collect my new "treasure",
formerly somebody else's trash, usually.  When I cleaned out that bag just
this morning, I found their business card.  I also remembered I had not yet
filled in the registration slip.  I've now done that, and have sent you that
business card as well.  Must have been some ESP working or someting.  Watch
the mailbox.

You might have eventually discovered a trick the rest of us have been using
for years ... calling for long distance information.  <g> Or, to be topical,
using the Business Phone directory on CD-ROM.

Regards,

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * Dr. Jack Kavorkian for White House physician!


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From: PATRICK SHEN                           Number: 1304
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93  4:11p
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have following CD-ROMs for sale.  All CD-ROMs are in New Condition. Add
$3 for UPS or Priority Mail shipping.

Shareware Bonanza.  3 CD set of Sharewares.  Over 20,000 programs.  More
than 3 Gigabytes of files.  Largest collection ever!  Every category
covered.  Great for BBS use. (BBS ready)         --------------  $50.00

ChessMaster 3000  MPC.  The best chess program in the world.  Moves spoken
in five different notations.  Photo realistic boards and pieces in 256
color 3D.  Excellent for beginner or master.  With all original manuals and
Registration card.                    -------------  $30.00

Wing Commander/Ultima VI.  Get 2 award winning games on one excellent CD
Space simulation and Adventure.  With all manuals and Registration card.
                                             ------------------  $34.00

Mixed-up Mother Goose MPC.  Sierra combines master storytelling with the
classic rhymes to create this children's adventure game.  Children learn
early reading skills and get introduced to the world of computers.
                                          ---------------------  $25.00

Shareware Overload.  Collection of 6100+ Sharewares.  550 MB of Games,
Windows, Business, Sound/Music and much more.      ------------  $20.00

Deathstar Arcade Battles.  The most exciting arcade action and other games
of all time.                           ------------------  $18.00

SelectWare System.  The Ultimate Software Demo System.   ------  $10.00

If you are interested, please reply here to contact me through CompuServe
or InterNet.

Patrick Shen InterNet: 72072,3612@COMPUSERVE.COM
                                                                    
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From: CHRIS BARRETT                          Number: 1305
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 06/26/93  4:00p
Subj: FLORIDA LION'S DEN IN                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >    To become ASP approved, the CD-ROM manufacturer must personally
 > contact EACH AND EVERY author on the disc. 4000+ authors at $1.00 per
 > author (stamps, envelope, return S.A.S.E., etc. - that's a LOW
 > estimate)... it may be prohibitively expensive for some.

    Ouch! That would definitely hurt the old profit margin! I was just
curious about it.

                                                    Chris

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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 1306
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93 11:00p
Subj: NEC and Hitachi                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   Does anyone know if you can run two different kinds of CD-ROM drives
  on the same system?I would like to have a NEC or other fast speed drive
  for personal use and a Hitachi or other slower drive for a BBS.

  Scott

  P.S.  I do multi-task...if interested,and I'll be running OS/2 2.1 also. 



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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 1307
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/28/93 12:14p
Subj: Re: Cd-Rom Catalog                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> the CD-Rom business right now.  I sent you a catalog yesterday.  You
> should probably get it before this message. Thanks for your interest.
Jim, Can you send one to me..I just got a CD-ROM for my BBS and like to see
what's available...
Dial-Page, Inc.
Att: "Manny"
3638 West Flager Street
Miami,FL 33135-1074
 
Thanks 

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From: BRIAN NEWBERG                          Number: 1308
  To: CHARLES STRUSZ                           Date: 06/27/93 12:19p
Subj: CD Rom Burners....                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a service.  I have a large database that is need of an
affordable method of small scale distribution.  I have been requiring
customers to  buy a large hard drive to house the database on.  Perhaps you
know of someone/where I can get this stuff produced at.

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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 1309
  To: MIKE PETRO                               Date: 06/27/93  9:30a
Subj: CLIPART CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > QUALITY
 > CLIPART FOR DTP WITHOUT A BUNCH OF UNUSABLE TRASH (75 DPI)
 > AND DUPES!!!

Did you guys look at the Corel Draw CD's ?

Vikki

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1310
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/28/93  6:55a
Subj: Cd rom burners                          Refer: 4723
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->  DS> Does anyone know of any good deals on cd rom burners
->
->  DS> preferably the Phillips model
->
-> How about $4,800?  I can get you one for that plus shipping and handl
              ^^^^^
That's a heck of a buy... This time last year a one-off machine with
software cost about 8 grand.

tim
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From: JOE MCDANIEL                           Number: 1311
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/24/93  9:06p
Subj: ANIMATION                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

75/70 290/627 396/1 640/75
Does anyone know of a good adult animations cd that is bbs ready. Im lookin
for
one that has nothing but dl's ... gl's .... and fli's.... Thanks and can send
catalogs to Big Joe's BBS  1628 N sorenson ln  Las Vegas, Nv 89115
                          Joe
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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 1312
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 06/24/93 12:46p
Subj: WEEKLY SPECIALS!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

640/75
Hello Dave!

In a message to Doug Carpenter <06/22/93> Dave Reed wrote:

DR> Hello Doug!

DR> Sunday June 20 1993, Doug Carpenter writes to Mark Abbacchi:

DR>  DC> This was an interesting message over on RIME:

DR> That's the down-side to accepting pre-orders for any product.  I like Bor
DR> approach:  Accept orders after the product is looking you in the face.  ;

DR> Later,

DR> Dave.

I completely agree with you Dave.. however, since we had spent THOUSANDS
of dollars on promotion and product with Mr. Armenia over the past 5 - 6
months.... we certainly didn't expect to get the shaft... we expected to
sell disks... make him money.. and us too... well.. we still want to
make money, obviously..  HE DOESN'T!  (Except other than the $800 that
he kept that we sent him.. and NEVER sent the disks we ordered!)

Mark



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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1313
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 06/26/93 12:58p
Subj: cd info                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JS> review using your new cd "system", what cd are you going to be r  
 JS> first? -Later                                                     
                                                                       
  
Actually I've received *TWO* CDs for review: Pork-Ware I from Mike 
Shannon and Digital Dreams from Jim Lambert. I've been at it since 
Thursday night and it'll take me the greater part (if not all) of the 
weekend to finish data gathering. THEN I'll have to write it all up for 
posting. I went back and updated my "names" data base - now have 47612 
file names in it. 
  
This isn't as easy as it sounds...and I'm working with a 486/66!!  Watch 
for at least part of the reviews to appear in next weeks posts (unless 
the sky falls in (:> ) I'm anxious to know what folks on the echo think 
about my procedure and hopefully be willing to help me make it better. 
Cheers for now!! 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1314
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 06/26/93  1:06p
Subj: CD WinBox User Manuale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DP> DC>DP> professionally bound USER MANUAL to its                    
 DP> DC>DP> distributors and dealers.  This USER MANUAL covers         
                                                                       
  
Does this say how to get the "view file" function to work? I can see 
inside the ZIPped file but when I try to view a .TXT file (e.g. 
READ.ME), the viewer just aborts to a minimized icon that I can only 
move or close. Any suggestions? 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1315
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/26/93  1:08p
Subj: Computer trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SP>   Is anyone looking to buy a new computer AND have a CD-ROM for   
 SP> sale?I'll                                                         
                                                                       
  
Let me know if this works!! I have a *NICE* 286 system I'd love to trade 
for a fast CD-ROM drive. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1316
  To: JIM TAYLOR                               Date: 06/26/93  1:10p
Subj: Digital Dreams Review                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TH> -> Let me know if you like this type of review. I will try to ke  
 TH>                                                                   
 TH> We love it... Unbiased product reviews are always welcome.        
                                                                       
  
I agree! The more reviews the better. My own review of DD is on the way 
(likely next week, at least in part.) Keep it up!! 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1317
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/26/93  1:02p
Subj:    INFO WANTED!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> hefty price tag too--                                             
                                                                       
  
Uuuggghhhh!!!  I'd give you my "sob story" but it's inappropriate for 
here. I just hope I can afford the thing when it comes to market. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1318
  To: PAUL HAMMERSCHMIDT                       Date: 06/26/93  1:13p
Subj:  problem with a cd                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PH> up. The CD has a few scratches on it, but that shouldn't matter   
 PH> least it                                                          
                                                                       
  
I hate to be a pessimist but some drives just flat won't read some CDs 
for unknown reasons. Even if the drive used to read the CD but now it 
won't, you may be SOL. It happened to a friend of mine and *NOTHING* 
(even having the drive overhauled) helped. Meanwhile, other drives 
(mine) were reading the disk quite happily. Go figure... 
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 1319
  To: HOWARD MALKIEL                           Date: 06/26/93  5:34a
Subj: Re: Cd rom discs to trade               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 23 Jun 93  08:49:00, I heard Howard Malkiel shout to All:

HM> Hi everyone. I have a couple of XXX CD's that I would be willing to
trade.
HM>        - Asian Ladies - Pretty new disc, only used 3-4 times.
HM> 
HM>        - Adult Reference Library - Also new with minimal use.
HM> 
HM> Let me know what you have to trade, and we'll see if we can hook up.
HM> 

Would be interested in doing some trading with Ya...   I have the ADULT Disk
Volcano, If you are interested ?  Is the Adult Reference Library a XXX disk ?

and if so what does it have Just .GIF's ?


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1320
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93 10:24p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9: $45!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1321
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93 10:24p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD'S 1 of 2                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 June 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 6/26
 **************************************************************************
                                   1 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........19.00    MIDI Music Shop...............31.00
 7th Guest (Unbelievable!).....55.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........24.50
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    Monarch Notes.................64.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 American Business Phonebk 1...18.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...43.00
 American Business Phonebk 2...28.00    Monster Media 93 (New!).......33.00
 Amiga AB20....................16.50    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Mother of All Clipart (New!)..24.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......27.50    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....27.50    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....30.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    National Business Directory...39.00
 Audubon's Birds...............27.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............27.00    National Parks................32.00
 Barney Bear School or Space...22.00    Night Owl 4.2.................22.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 5.0.................23.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 6.2.................24.00
 Bible Library.................31.00    Night Owl 7.0.................25.00
 Bibles & Religion.............15.00    Night Owl 8.0.................33.50
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 9.0 (Pre-orders!)...45.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl 8/9 2-Pak...........70.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....19.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Business Master...............20.00    North American Fax Book.......49.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    Ocean Digital Imagery.........34.50
 California Collection.........17.00    Original Shareware 1992.......18.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...25.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    Our Solar System..............15.00
 CD PowerBox...................23.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....33.00
 CD Winbox (New!)..............29.00    PC-SIG #10....................27.00
 CD-ROM Grab Bag (4 CD's)......29.00    PC-SIG #12....................28.00
 CD Grab Bag (1 CD)............19.00    PC Gameroom...................28.50
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........24.00    Phoenix 3.0...................19.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Pier 1........................29.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....54.00    Pier 2 (In stock!)............45.00
 Clipart Galore................30.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Clipart Goliath...............15.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (New!)......24.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........29.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......88.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............15.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........125.00
 Complete Bookshop.............15.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Composer Quest................38.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........34.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency...109.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....79.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....79.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Conan the Cimmerian...........35.00    Publisher's Paradise (New!)...35.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....39.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........29.00    Reader's Library..............31.50
 Crossword Cracker.............24.50    Reference Library.............27.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....38.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...43.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......15.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....28.50
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......25.50
 Desktop Bookshop (New!).......28.50    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...28.00
 Dictionaries & Languages......15.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............34.00    Shareware Online..............29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1322
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93 10:24p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD'S 2 of 2                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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                                   2 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Overload............15.00
 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Shareware Studio 1............21.00
 Empire Clipart................29.00    Shareware Studio 2 (New!).....27.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......28.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Encyclopedia of Sound (New!)..22.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...25.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Font Master 2.................28.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Shareware 2...........29.50
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    Software Vault 1..............25.00
 Game Arena (New!).............19.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....29.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..29.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    Sound Sensations..............15.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    SoundWAV (New!)...............29.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Giga Games (New!).............24.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Space Quest IV................25.00
 Global Explorer (New!)........96.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Street Atlas USA..............88.00
 Grolier's Ill. Ency. 2.0......39.00    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Grolier's MM Ency. 5.0........49.00    Super CD 2 (New!).............29.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency. 1.5.......49.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....18.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...27.00    Super Games For Windows.......18.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............27.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.50
 Ham Radio 3.0.................15.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.50
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Technotools...................15.00
 House of Games................29.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..32.00
 Illustrated Holy Bible........49.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Too Many Typefonts............15.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Total Baseball................29.00
 Jets & Props..................31.50    Trump Castle..................33.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........19.00    U.S. & World Atlas............29.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    VGA Spectrum 1................17.00
 King's Quest V................25.00    VGA Spectrum 2................25.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    Visions of Saturn (New!)......25.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........27.50    Vital Signs...................39.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....19.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Library of the Future #1......54.50    Windoware.....................15.00
 Lion's Share..................27.00    Windows 1993..................28.00
 Loom..........................25.00    Windows Shareware Gold........37.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........39.00    Wing Commander II Deluxe......58.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......25.00
 Magnum One Shareware..........29.00    WizPak........................17.00
 Manhole.......................37.00    World Atlas MPC...............29.00
 Marketing Master 1992.........19.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............35.00    World Traveler (New!).........18.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......58.00    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    World Vision 3-Pak (New!).....47.00
 Microsoft Works MPC...........58.00    Wrath of the Demon............38.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1323
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93 10:24p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICES                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 June 1993                ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST         Last update: 6/26
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------

 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 Animation Fantasies 1.........29.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Animation Fantasies 2.........29.00    Porkware 2 (New!).............37.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Busty Babes...................33.00    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........29.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Erotic Encounters.............36.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Exotic Girls (Closeout).......25.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........59.00
 Giffy Gold ("R"-rated)........39.00    Smutware......................32.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................34.50    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................34.50    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................34.50    Storm 2.......................30.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............34.50    Storm 3.......................31.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......28.00    Storm 3-Pak...................75.00
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Swimwear & More (New!)........29.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....65.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Nightwatch Interactive (Wow!).65.00    Tropical Girls (Closeout).....25.00
 PC-PIX 1......................30.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 PC-PIX 2......................30.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 PC-PIX 3......................30.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: BILL STRANGE                           Number: 1324
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/27/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks Jim for the catalog. I had it sitting on my wrkbench when I got back
from vacation. Thats the fastest response I think I have ever gotten from the
echos. I will be getting an order from you asap. And i'm sending a local
distributor your way as well... thanks again
Bill Strange

Your willing to pay what?

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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 1325
  To: EARL BONSER                              Date: 06/27/93 10:47p
Subj: Florida Lion's Den In                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

|EB> that distribution is what makes their $$ for them, but there may be one|
|EB> of them that are hard headed enough to follow up on their threats just |
|EB> like big shots to their fellow shareware authors.                      |
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Only if they have a Day Job!  I mean if these guys are so small minded
as to not know how their programs are best marketed......then they
must not really be making any $$$ from their works with or without CD
distribution.

Think of this.....how many people do you know that purchase Shareware
CD roms do not call BBS's or other Information services that Shareware
files may be available?  If the answer is one or more.....then I
believe the producers of shareware software should be fighting to get
their works included in the best selling CD's.

I am sure that some of the vendors here that also sell their products
with advertisements placed in Computer Shopper and other computer
related periodicals can atest to hundreds.

(My possibly unwanted Opinion)
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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 1326
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 06/27/93 11:08p
Subj: Old Mitsumi's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

|JH> I thought the older drives was all the same anyway.                    |
|JH> 600ms or 800ms still very slow for todays standards.                   |
|JH> I guess your not willing to sell for $90.00 huh?                       |
|JH> let me know if you happen to change your mind..                        |
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No not likly....I didn't purchase them to sell.  $90 may be a good
price for a used Mitsumi LU002 but a new one at $110 is a bargain.
Again I repeat.....I am not selling any Drives at This Time.
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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 1327
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 06/27/93 11:19p
Subj: Which Is Best?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

|EP> Caddyless:                                                             |
|EP>        -just drop the CD into the drive        -always handling CD's   |
|EP>        -no caddy to fool with or buy           -2 hand operation...push|
|EP>                                                 drive slides out...lift|
|EP>                                                 drop in CD....close lid|
|EP>                                                 in drive               |
|EP>                                                                        |
|EP> That's about all I can think of.....maybe someone can add (or delete) f|
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All I can add is.....the caddyless drives, at least Mitsumi, don't
have the problem of sucking in dirt and dust that some of the caddy
type drives have.
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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 1328
  To: HOWARD MALKIEL                           Date: 06/27/93 10:59a
Subj: Cd's for sale or trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (26 Jun 93) Howard Malkiel wrote to All...
 HM> I have three recent CD's for sale or possible trade.
 HM>        Asian Ladies
 HM>        Adult Reference Library
 HM>        Digital Dreams
 HM>      -- All Three for $90, icluding shipping costs.
 HM>  * Origin: DSC (Datamax/Satalink Connection) * 215-443-9434

  Hello Howard.  I am intrested in purchasing the set of CDs you have
  listed above.  Will offer $65.oo including shipping.  Payment by US
  Postal Money Order.  Lets get it on, and make it a done deal!

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 1329
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/23/93 12:21p
Subj: sellin' some Roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EB>Another "cleaning out some of the stuff from my apartment so that I can
EB>walk around without stepping on it" sale.

EB>CDRoms for sale:

EB>       CICA Windows (Dec)           $10.00
EB>       US History                   $15.00
EB>       Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00
EB>       Battle Chess (not ehhanced)  $ 5.00
EB>       Wing Commander I complete    $10.00
EB>       Time Tables of History S+I   $15.00
EB>       Ultima 1-6                   $20.00
EB>       Toolworks game pack 1        $10.00
EB>       Sherlock Holmes 1            $15.00
EB>       Simtel 20 MSDos (Dec)        $10.00
EB>       Masterpiece Library          $25.00
EB>       Family Doctor                $25.00
EB>       Greatest Books 150           $20.00
EB>       NASA Voyager Image data      $10.00 /ea.
EB>         (there are 12 of these, 3 for each planet voyager 1 and 2
EB>          visited, 0% duplication of data between roms, over 7 GIG
EB>          of image data, comes with disk containing software nedded
EB>          to view images, which are in some strange NASA format, will
EB>          sell set for $85)
EB>       Garbo CD (MSDos/Mac)         $15.00
EB>       Animals                      $20.00

EB>Reply here or Netmail, whichever you prefer...


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EB> * Origin: Zero Tolerance -=- (813)977-5212 (1:377/53.0)
 I'll take Microsoft Bookshelf 92, is that the one which has all the
 dictionaries and thesaurus's???  I would also like to know more about
 the US history like megs and whatever?
        Do I have to have to run Windows to run these two?
I have a slow cd rom but still would like them, esp. Bookshelf, what are
the megs on it !
         Sam's Software
         Sam Figueroa
         (615) 728-7383
                                        Thanks,
        Very Interested, if these titles are gone, I might want some
        others, do these include manuals and sort!
                                Sam Figueroa


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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1330
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/27/93  2:23p
Subj: OUR TRADE                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

It is now Sunday 6-27-93 and I have not received the CD-Rom Private
Collection II that you were to mail 8 days ago by priority mail.  I KNOW you
have gotten my Physical Therapy disc that I sent by priority mail, so there
is no reason for you to not have cross shipped as we agreed.  I can only
fathom 2 reasons I have not gotten my disc.

#1-You waited till receiving my disc before shipping. #2-You have no
intention of shipping my disc and are ripping me off.

Neither of the above is acceptable.  I expect my disc here no later that
6-31-93, and a public apology.  I did keep copies of your posts and your
address.  Take care of this immediately.

<MB>

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From: MIKE ROSE                              Number: 1331
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/22/93  9:28a
Subj: SONY CD ROM FOR SALE                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sony CDU-31A internal CD ROM unit. Complete with everything needed, 
including controller card, cables, sound cables, manual, driver and 
installation software, plus the World/USA Atlas pack CD ver 3.0. This 
unit is in perfect working order. (Plays music CD's too) 
 
   Data Transfer Rate 
Sustained rate    = 150 Kbytes/sec 
Burst rate        = 2.1 Mbytes/sec 
 
     Access  Time 
Full Stroke       = 0.95 sec (typical) 
Average (random)  = 0.49 sec (typical) 
 
$300.00 for all. If intersted, post here, or call: 
Mike Rose 
7 Reyburn Dr 
Henderson, Nv 89014 
702-897-2500 
 
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 1332
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 06/25/93  1:38p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-sale or trad               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MB>Physical therapy is a very good general mix-up of different rez gifs

Thanks for the info.  I am going to "go for" this trade if my other
offer falls through...   Thanks Again!     Shane
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 1333
  To: STERLING PRICE                           Date: 06/25/93  1:40p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-sale or trad               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SP>  SS> I'm interested, but I don't know anything about this CD..?  Is it
all
SP> Hi Shane...OK, here's the lowdown on Physical Therapy:

Thanks Sterling,  I just went ahead with an offer for another trade,
however, if this falls through we have a deal...  I'll let you know
either way.     Thanks,    Shane
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 1334
  To: TODD VIERLING                            Date: 06/27/93  4:27p
Subj: Re: HELP... please!!!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TV> SS> I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM, which I can not load the driver for now that
TV> SS> I have upgraded to DOS 6.0...   Even with the SETVER installed, it

TV>Which driver can you not load? the ???.SYS driver, or the MSCDEX.EXE
TV>driver? Remember that MSCDEX comes with DOS 6 and you should not use an

Thanks for the info. Todd.  You are right, it was the older version of
MSCDEX that was giving me problems.  I keep my device drivers in a BIN
directory, so I wasn't able to utlize the new drivers...   Now i've
updated the drivers and everything seems to be running smoothly.
                            Thanks,     Shane
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 1335
  To: JOSH BERRY                               Date: 06/27/93  4:28p
Subj: HELP... please!!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JB>SS> I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM, which I can not load the driver for
JB>SS> have upgraded to DOS 6.0...   Even with the SETVER

JB>        Where did you get your mscdex file? if you are using the one
JB>that came with dos 6 then don't load setver, if you are using another

Yep, that was the problem, the new version of MSCDEX did the trick.
Thanks,  Shane
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 1336
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/27/93  4:35p
Subj: HELP... please!!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ> SS> have upgraded to DOS 6.0...   Even with the SETVER installed, it
BJ> SS> gives me the "incorrect DOS version" error.  Anyone have any ide

Thanks.  Actually,  I only needed to load the "new" MSCDEX version which
came with DOS 6.0
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 1337
  To: EDWARD HENSEL                            Date: 06/27/93  4:35p
Subj: HELP... please!!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EH>Try using the MSCDEX.EXE file from DOS 6.0 instead of the one supplied
EH>from the Drive company.

Yep, that did the trick.   THANKS!!
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 1338
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/27/93  4:36p
Subj: HELP... please!!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC>|SS> I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM, which I can not load the driver for now that
I

DC>Try directing the line in your Autoexec that calls MSCDEX to your DOS
DC>6.0 directory.....and don't use SETVER at all.

Yes, that did it. Thanks a lot!!     Shane
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1339
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  4:06p
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams"              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   First, my thanks to Jim Lambert of "Computer Works" in Ashford, AL
   for sending me an "on approval" copy of the new adult CD "Digital
   Dreams" for this review.

   This review is broken up into several FIDO posts: Statistics,
   Operations (Part A), Operations (Part B), Operations (Part C),
   Visual (Part A), Visual (Part B), and Visual (Part C).  I've done
   this to keep each post rather small because I'm not sure how long a
   message FIDO (or my local BBS) can handle.  Please bear with me
   while I learn the ropes here.  If you collect all the parts
   mentioned above, in the given sequence, you'll have the whole
   enchilada.  I'd very much appreciate feedback on the FORMAT AND
   STYLE of my review so I can improve future ones.  Thanks!

   For the record, I've owned and viewed over 40 "adult" CDs with an
   aggregate image count near 100,000.  I've "messed with" a lot of
   image viewing and processing software.  In a previous life, I was a
   photographer who did, among other types, nude stills in both color
   and B&W.  I've done all steps from model interview through final
   print processing.  I don't claim to be an "expert" (whatever that
   is), but I do know good image characteristics from bad ones. Still,
   beauty is in the eyes of the beholder so remember, what follows IS
   ONE PERSON'S OPINION.

   Statistics
   ==========

   This section focuses on the numerical data relative to the physical
   contents of the CD.

   Digital Dreams (DD) has 1598 GIF images on it, not counting the 480
   "catalog" GIFs nor the 8 miscellaneous GIFs included in the GIFV
   directory along with the built-in viewer.  Therefore, for this
   review, "GIFs" is taken to mean the single-image "feature" files
   and therefore excludes the catalogs and miscellaneous images,
   unless explicitly addressed as such.

   There are 14 GIF directories with 100 GIFs each, and two
   directories that have 99 GIFs each - hence the 1598 total count.
   There are 578,272,904 bytes given over to these 1598 images for an
   average size of 361,872 bytes.  That's a pretty hefty size for even
   a 256-color GIF leading one to conjure up ideas of large, hi-rez
   images.  Here, that number only goes to prove how deceptive
   statistics can be, as will be seen a bit later on in the Operations
   sections.

   There are no duplicate GIF file names on DD, nor are there any
   duplicate GIF images that could be revealed by either electronic
   audit (name, size, and checksum) or by actual viewing.

   Operations (Part A) to follow.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1340
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  4:07p
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams"              Refer: NONE
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   Operations (Part A)
   ===================

   The entirety of this section focuses those aspects of the CD that
   effect convenience and usability.  Accordingly, it is more
   subjective than the statistical section.

   There are several files with file descriptions in them.  These have
   names like: PCBOARD, QBBS-RA, SPITFIRE, and WILDCAT which I presume
   maps to their applicability to like-named BBS software.  Not being
   a sysop, I can on speculate about this.  I did scan through a
   couple of these text files and the contents seemed to be
   appropriate.

   The directories are sequentially numbered (e.g. DD1-0100) and
   therefore offer no clue to their contents.  File names are
   similarly constructed and are accordingly no more revealing (e.g.
   DD1_0350).  However, since all the images are more or less the same
   with respect to subject matter, it's not clear that this
   identification scheme is a drawback.

   As previously eluded to, there is a built-in GIF viewer.  It's a
   shareware package called "GIFReed".  The DD authors make a splash
   about this program in their documentation, but I wasn't impressed
   by it.  It's most useful feature was the ability to automatically
   center, both horizontally and vertically, a small image on the
   screen - something it got to do a lot with DD images.  A thorough
   review of it would be out of scope here, so I won't go into that.
   What is worth saying is that if one wants to take advantage of DD's
   image catalogs WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL EFFORT, then they'll have to
   use this program.  Of course, ALL the images on DD can be viewed
   with any other GIF viewer.  If one doesn't mind putting forth a bit
   of additional effort, the shareware program called GDS - Graphical
   Display System - will do a MUCH better job of creating
   point-and-click catalogs.  Of course, GDS will use HDD (or floppy)
   space for its catalogs whereas DD's GIFReed catalogs are already on
   the CD and therefore don't take up HDD space.  It's worth noting
   that DD's authors suggest copying GIFReed and the right catalogs
   (more on this later) to your HDD to boost performance.

   Operations (Part B) to follow.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1341
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  4:08p
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams"              Refer: NONE
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   Operations (Part C)
   ===================

   The included copy of GIFReed is too crippled IMHO, to permit any
   real "try before buy" evaluation, not to mention the highly
   annoying beeps, messages, warnings, etc. that go along with the
   crippled functionality.  More to the point, as implemented by DD's
   authors, about half of each catalog image is occupied by a large,
   rather garish title that adds NO VALUE to the catalog image.  The
   end result is that the 28 to 36 "thumbnail" images per catalog are
   crowded into VERY slightly more than the lower half of the screen.
   You can run the math yourself:  On my 15" FS monitor, the usable
   screen is about 10.8" wide (horizontally, not diagonally).  At
   1024x768 resolution, that makes about 95 pixels per usable inch.
   Half of a 1024x768 screen spread wall-to-wall between 36 images
   gives about 11,000 pixels, about 105 pixels square, per image.
   Compare that to the 95 pixels per inch from above, add in some room
   for titles, space between images, and gentle reader you'll see that
   the DD catalogs images must be and are truly TINY.  Look at your
   thumbnail - DD's producers chose their word correctly!  True, they
   give a glimpse of what the "full sized" (more on THIS later in
   Visual) image looks like, but barely.  True, a mouse click on the
   reduced image brings up the real one so you don't have to stare at
   the catalog images for very long.  Still, why the authors chose to
   surrender half the screen's real estate to a useless title is
   beyond me.

   One probable clue came while I was "beating" on GIFReed.  While the
   cataloging capability is missing in the crippled version, I did get
   far enough into the process to see the part where a title gets
   inserted.  It wasn't entirely clear that either (a) the title could
   be omitted altogether, or (b) one had control over how large the
   mandatory title space is.  In short, once DD's authors chose
   GIFReed, and elected to have it run directly from the CD, they may
   have been somewhat locked in on how the catalog screens looked.
   Again, IMHO, GDS offers far more capability, flexibility, and
   usability.  Sysops and end users alike will find a lot to like in
   GDS - like "door" compatibility that let's users create a custom
   catalog on-the-fly of tagged GIFs and then D/L it thereby saving
   both the sysop and user a LOT of time and grief. But I digress...

   Visual (Part A) to follow.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1342
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  4:09p
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams"              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   Visual (Part B)
   ===============

   True to the authors' claims, I couldn't recall ever having seen any
   of these images prior to examining DD.  Since all the GIFs have
   names that begin with "DD1_", I didn't bother checking against my
   CD GIF name data base of nearly 50K unique names.  I was confident
   I wouldn't find any duplicates there that would prove out to be
   valid.

   The authors of DD make a point about all the GIFs being scanned at
   either 1024x768x256 or 800x600x256 resolution, and that they (the
   GIFs) were "...rather painstakingly picked out."  For my money,
   they didn't go through enough pain, or else they were trying to
   save some for the customer.

   First, very few of the images are even close to being full-screen.
   Most are considerable smaller, some unacceptably small by my
   standards.  One of DD's "better" images, all things considered, is
   DD1_0065.  This image is actually 563x757x256 or about half of a
   1024x768x256 screen.  While it may be true that the authors'
   scanner was always set for a high resolution, it's a mistake to
   think that very many of the images are able take full advantage of
   it.

   More importantly, ALMOST ALL of the images have a very distracting
   "grainy" quality about them.  They're just not sharp and clear.
   OK...OK... Sometimes the "looking through gauze" effect can be
   appealing by giving the image a kind of ethereal or "sleepy" look.
   That's not what I'm talking about here, folks.  Either the source
   photographs were lousy, or a cheap or maladjusted scanner was used,
   or somebody didn't know what they were doing, or whatever, but
   SOMETHING went wrong.  Most every single image is this way -
   grainy.  It is, in my mind, reminiscent of the image quality (NOT
   subject matter) on Volcano, only worse.  It makes you keep trying
   to re-focus your eyes, and that doesn't help.

   Visual (Part C) to follow.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1343
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  7:18p
Subj: Pork-Ware 1 Review                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  First, my thanks to Mike Shannon of Starvector for sending me a copy 
  of the adult CD "Pork-Ware I" for this review. 
  
  This review is broken up into several FIDO posts: Statistics, 
  Operations (A), Operations (B), Operations (C), Visual (A), Visual 
  (B), and Visual (C).  I've done this to keep each post rather small 
  because I'm not sure how long a message FIDO (or my local BBS) can 
  handle.  Please bear with me while I learn the ropes here.  If you 
  collect all the parts mentioned above, in the given sequence, you'll 
  have the whole enchilada.  I'd very much appreciate feedback on the 
  FORMAT AND STYLE of my review so I can improve future ones.  Thanks! 
  
  For the record, I've owned and viewed over 40 "adult" CDs with an 
  aggregate image count near 100,000.  I've "messed with" a lot of 
  image viewing and processing software.  In a previous life, I was a 
  photographer who did, among other types, nude stills in both color 
  and B&W.  I've done all steps from model interview through final 
  print processing.  I don't claim to be an "expert" (whatever that 
  is), but I do know good image characteristics from bad ones. Still, 
  beauty is in the eyes of the beholder so remember, what follows IS 
  ONE PERSON'S OPINION. 
  
  Statistics 
  ========== 
  
  This section focuses on the numerical data relative to the physical 
  contents of the CD. 
  
  Pork-Ware I (PW1) has 2014 GIF images on it, plus 35 Targa files. 
  The CD has 22 image directories, 21 for GIFs and 1 for the Targa 
  files.  The directories are named X01...X22 thereby in themselves 
  giving no clue to their individual contents.  In reality, the images 
  are split across directories according to subject matter (See 
  Operations below). There are a total of 632,783,505 bytes of GIF 
  files making an average of 314,192 bytes per GIF.  Make no mistake 
  about it, there are some very large GIFs on this CD.  The 35 Targa 
  files occupy 21,848,140 bytes for an average of 624,232 bytes each - 
  actually somewhat small by Targa standards. 
  
  There are NO duplicate file names on the CD, nor exact duplicate GIF 
  images that could be revealed by an electronic audit of names, file 
  sizes, and checksums.  Checked against a 47,000+ GIF file unique 
  name data base, there were 833 "hits" indicating that, on a file 
  name basis, about 41% of the files are potentially duplicated on 
  other adult CDs.  The "hit" distribution was as follows: 
  
             Seedy 6-Pak:  428          7th Heaven:  114 
             Busty Babes:   46          Ecstasy:     164 
             FAO-2:         52          FAO-3:        53 
             FAO-GOLD:      91          PCPIX-1:      55 
             PCPIX-2:       38          PCPIX-3:      60 
             Visual Fntsy:  41          Storm-3:      65 
  
  Now before anyone says: "Hey, all those hits add up to more than 
  833.", recall that a given GIF file name may be duplicated on more 
  than one other CD. 
  
  Operations to follow. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1344
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  7:19p
Subj: Pork-Ware 1 Review                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Operations 
  ========== 
  
  The entirety of this section focuses on those aspects of the CD that 
  effect convenience and usability.  Accordingly, it is more 
  subjective that the statistical section. 
  
  There are file listings included on the CD.  These are the two-line 
  description type with a header at the beginning of the file.  Not 
  being a sysop, I'm not sure this makes PW1 "BBS ready" or not.  The 
  file descriptions seemed accurate enough on casual scan. 
  
  As said, the file directories are named X01 through X22.  The Targa 
  files are alone in directory X20, with the GIF files occupying the 
  rest.  The PW1 CD that I received had a 3-1/2" diskette with it 
  labeled "Pork-Ware Installation Disk".  As I discovered from it, 
  there apparently is, or will be, a "Pork-Ware 2" CD as provision was 
  made to install either from this same diskette. 
  
  Even though shareware versions of both CSHOW and VPIC are included 
  on the CD, the installation procedure forces VPIC as the choice. 
  More interesting than that is that the installation program only 
  runs under Windows 3.1 (or later).  That's a little wierd if you ask 
  me!  All the install program really does is to attempt to configure 
  VPIC to your hardware by running the "WHICHVGA" program and then 
  VPIC's configuration program.  This will probably work for most 
  older video boards, but it failed to correctly recognize and 
  configure for my S3-based board.  After that, the user is given the 
  choice of having "VIEWPORK.BAT" copied to the DOS sub-directory of 
  the HDD.  Since it's likely the DOS sub-directory is in the PATH 
  statement, PW1's authors seem to be trying to make it easy to look 
  at the CD's contents by entering VIEWPORK from any command line 
  prompt.  The .BAT file is large (about 4K bytes) and clumsily 
  written owing to PW1's authors not having or at least not using and 
  ASK.COM or equivalent. Well, at least they tried. 
  
  What was useful from examining the VIEWPORK.BAT file was learning 
  that the contents of the GIF directories are indeed organized by 
  subject matter.  A printout of that .BAT file reveals that PW1 and 
  PW2 are slightly different; more importantly, it allowed me to clip 
  and save the PW1 index and keep it with the CD for future reference. 
  
  I didn't use the versions of CSHOW or VPIC that were included on 
  PW1, but instead used my personal favorite image file viewer (GDS) 
  for the rest of the examination.  Both of these programs are 
  generally very well-known.  For those users without a preference, or 
  perhaps even a viewer, I'm sure either one (or any other of a number 
  of similar viewers) would be adequate for starters.  Further review 
  of them here is therefore unwarranted. 
  
  Visual to follow. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1345
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  7:20p
Subj: Pork-Ware 1 Review                      Refer: NONE
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  Visual 
  ====== 
  
  This section focuses on the visual merits of the CD's imagery AS 
  JUDGES BY THIS REVIEWER.  Accordingly, it is more subjective that 
  either of the two preceding sections and should be taken as such. 
  
  PW1 is a full-blown "X" CD.  Some of it's images are as "raw" as any 
  you're likely see on any CD containing similar material.  Having 
  said that, it's worth noting that PW1 doesn't contain any "furry 
  sex" or other really "fringe" material.  That's not to say the 
  images aren't graphic - they are.  In addition to the explicit sex 
  images, there's a considerable population of nude images.  Many of 
  these are from the PIC series and the LADYR series.  Most but not 
  all of the images have a BBS logo on them. 
  
  I made it a point to view each of the "non-hit" images.  As I 
  suspected, there were some "old friends" lurking in there under 
  changed names.  I didn't keep strict count, but I'd estimate that of 
  the 1181 "non-hits", about 25% were in this category.  On the other 
  hand, of the non-hit file names, 28% had Village Adult BBS file 
  names indicating that they were, as far as my data base is 
  concerned, "new" images. 
  
  If you're into 24-bit color, you'll appreciate the 35 Targa files 
  included on PW1.  They do look slightly smoother than 256-color 
  images, but not by much to these tired eyes.  Eight-bit color seems 
  to do quite well rendering flesh tones, etc.  I actually converted a 
  few of the Targa images to 256-color and could see differences, but 
  they were small ones.  For pictures of humans, IMHO the extra space 
  required by 24-bit color isn't worth it. 
  
  Since most of the images are obviously scans from some of the larger 
  and better known "houses" (e.g. McHenry, Prizm, Village, etc.), the 
  intrinsic image quality of the images is quite good on the whole. 
  As with any similar adult CD, there are a few misses, but not that 
  many.  All in all, if you don't have an adult CD and want ONE with a 
  variety of material on it, including a mix of nudes and "X", this 
  isn't a bad choice.  It's better than XXX Extreme (aka Physical 
  Therapy); better than the Nix Pix series (which personally I regard 
  as poor); and a LOT better than either Giffy Gold or Digital Dreams 
  with respect to the nude collection.  If you already have several 
  adult CDs, this one won't add much to your collection. 
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From: WESLEY DANSRO                          Number: 1346
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/20/93  4:09p
Subj: CD'd for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 .
   I have a few Cd's for sale:
.
   Lotus 1-2-3 multimedia ver 1.1 for windows, New       $60
   Food Analyst with entire USDA database8,    used      $20
.

     call 203-667-3372

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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 1347
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 06/27/93  9:19a
Subj: $$$                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hey brice. the complaint was mostly with the distributor of the cd disks
he told me via voice phone that my check was acceptable.  then when the
package arrived, the story had changed. if i had known in advance that
he would not accept my check , i owuld have made the proper arangments
and either had the right amount of cash, or a money order..
after all when someone says that your check will be fine and acceptable
you pretty much don't worry about things such as correct amounts in
cash!
anyway. i just learned a lesson thats all, when someone says they will
accept a check, they probably wont........a sales tactet i suppose?

as far as the U.P.S. service, i did make a complaint towards them as
well. the attitude of the delevry man was such as  "come on and hurry
up"  and as i said in my last message. i am disabled, and walk with
crutches, it makes it very hard for someone in my position to simply
just "hurry up"

i had no idea that someone could go to work without any money in thier
pocket,  when i handed him a hundred dollar bill, he said he couldn't
change it...the change was only  9 dollars.....??????

well anyway after the nasty gram note i got from a distibutor who shall
remain nameless. i decided to do my buisness elsewhere. and i was
promised that my checks would be accepted with out any hassles..
i guess they will get all of my future buisness,

nice chatting with you brice......
best regards bubba
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1348
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 06/27/93  3:31p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> I'll offer you a trade.  1 brand new Quantum LPS 240 meg SCSI drive
>> w/full warranty for all the above...

    I wish that this had come earlier, I have already sold some of
the Roms.  This is what I have left:

Another "cleaning out some of the stuff from my apartment so that I can
walk around without stepping on it" sale.

CDRoms for sale:

       Time Tables of History S+I   $15.00
       Ultima 1-6                   $20.00
       Sherlock Holmes 1            $15.00
       Masterpiece Library          $25.00
       Family Doctor                $25.00
       Greatest Books 150           $20.00
       NASA Voyager Image data set only
         (there are 12 of these, 3 for each planet voyager 1 and 2
          visited, 0% duplication of data between roms, over 7 GIG
          of image data, comes with disk containing software nedded
          to view images, which are in some strange NASA format, will
          sell set for $85)


Reply here or Netmail, whichever you prefer...

    Could we work a trade on the remainder?  I have actually only sold
the least expensive $90 worth, the bulk of the good stuff, $205 worth, is
still here.  And I am in the market for a SCSI HD, got any MAXTOR?


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From: ROBERT PERREAULT                       Number: 1349
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  7:52p
Subj: toshiba cd-roms                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have some Toshiba model xm-3101bme that I need to find someone to work
on.. I heard that it needs a chip changed out.. What happens is the
light gos off and on but it still reads the cd.. And I have one that the
light stays on all the time and will not read the CD.. The one that
stays on all the was going on and off like the athere one at first..
If you know some one or you fix them please reply..

                                     thanks
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1350
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 06/22/93 12:39a
Subj: Pier II                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JH>MS> You'll always pay a little more for the best.  You just can't get a
JH>MS> Ferrari for the price of a Yugo. 8)

JH>Just like the last one I bought, 2 weeks later I found it for 15 dollars
JH>less! I remember when Nightowl 8 was advertised for $69.00??
JH>Well look what it sells for now!  How about last years Ferrari?

Hey Joe,

Last year's Ferrari probably went UP in value!  <g>

(thanks for the order)

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1351
  To: WADE NORTON                              Date: 06/22/93 12:39a
Subj: CD WINBOX - GET ONE!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WN>> ATTENTION WINDOWS USERS!  Looking for THE BEST Windows shareware CD?
WN>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
WN>> FROM THE MAKERS OF CD-POWERBOX . . . . . CD WINBOX 1.0 IS HERE!

WN>> SPECIAL 2-DISC OFFER:  CD WINBOX + CD POWERBOX . . . (no dupes). . .
WN>> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892

WN>> þ SLMR 2.1a þ The magic of Windoze: Turning a 486 into an XT.

WN>Rather a poor time for your TAG line isn't it.  I would say it is a bit
WN>innapropriate(sp) considering you're TRYING TO SELL a Windows disk.

Darn those pesky taglines! <g>  Well, OK . . . I make no secret about my
disdain for Windows, but after all, I'm not trying to sell the bloody
thing, I'm only selling the SOFTWARE that runs in that environment.  I
only use Windows if someone holds a gun to my head, but I have no problem
selling a very well-made shareware CD to folks who enjoy Windows.  Just
because I don't like using "DOS IN A CLOWN SUIT 3.1", doesn't mean others
can't use it productively.  I guess it means that I'm an old fuddy duddy
from the school of C> prompts and syntax errors, and I LIKE it that way! 8)

(I kinda like this tagline too)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1352
  To: KAMAL HAFFAR                             Date: 06/22/93 12:39a
Subj: My cds order!!!                         Refer: NONE
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KH>Hello Mike, I did finally receive my package two days ago. I am really
KH>impressed with pier2.  Unfortunately though, you have sent me So Much
Sharewa
KH>II instead of shareware 93.

Kamal,

Glad to hear it.  I'll bet Canadian customs is to blame.  Anyway, the
original order info shows So Much Shareware II, so I'm not sure what
the mixup was.  Believe me though, you DON'T WANT Shareware '93.  It's
riddled with holes, and missing lots of files.  So Much Shareware II is
10 times better, but if you'd like to return it for another title, feel
free.

Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1353
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/22/93 12:39a
Subj: CD WINBOX - GET ONE!                    Refer: NONE
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BJ> MS>     FROM THE MAKERS OF CD-POWERBOX . . . . . CD WINBOX 1.0 IS HE

BJ>OK, Mike. Send me one. After e-i-g-h-t weeks of CONCENTRATED effort, I'm
BJ>about to get the hang of 3.1 (Maybe I'm a slow learner!). If this CD's
BJ>half as good as PB, it'll be worth the price. Honk if ya' need address,
BJ>VISA #, etc. but you should still have it online.

It's on the way Bob!  Congrats on figuring out 3.1 - you have more
patience than I do! (see message to Wade Norton)

Anyway, I think you'll be pleased with Winbox.  Dave and the guys at
Damar really take the time to produce a good product.  I have all your
shipping info in the database.  You should expect to see it around Friday
the 25th.  By the way, I sent you a message the other day asking if you
still wanted to look at Porkware, but since I'm sending Winbox, I'll
assume you still want the Porker too, and I'll send it along for review.
Just send it back if you don't like it.

Thanx again,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1354
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/22/93 12:39a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 PRE-ORDERS!                 Refer: NONE
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ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS!   NOW TAKING RESERVE ORDERS FOR THE LATEST
AND GREATEST NIGHT OWL OF ALL . . .
                                    . . . N  I  G  H  T      O  W  L
                                              |   |        +=======+
PRICE:  $45.00                            ====|===|====    ||     ||
                                              |   |        ||     ||
SPECIAL EARLY BIRD OFFER                  ====|===|====    +=======|
------------------------                      |   |               ||
Order before July 1, and                                         ||
receive your choice of:                       +-----+             ||
                                              | $45 |
    . Software Vault 2                        +-----+
    . Shareware Studio 2
    . Powerpak 3.0
    . Night Owl 7 . . . . . . . . . for ONLY $15 additional!

or  . Night Owl 8 . . . . . . . . . for ONLY $25 additional!

CALL TO RESERVE YOUR COPY TODAY! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1-800-767-1284
OPERATORS (Rainie & I) ARE STANDING BY!

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1355
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/22/93 12:39a
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS: $29!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
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ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
O               DIGITAL DREAMS IS HERE . . . . ONLY $29.00!               O
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

              * All original scans from the McHenry BBS
              * No BBS ads or logos
              * BBS-ready with support for several BBS formats
              * Over 1700 .GIF images
              * 300+ animation files
              * BRAND NEW STUFF NOT FOUND ON ANY OTHER DISC!!!!

Get the newest and BEST adult CD on the market for only..............$29.00
                                                       (limited time offer)

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1356
  To: LUC VAN DYCK                             Date: 06/22/93 12:40a
Subj: TITLES                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Luc,

Thanks for the inquiry.  We have Encyclopedia of Clipart at $28, Pier 2
at $45, and Programmer's Megapack at $34.  All are in stock and ready to
ship.  Insured Airmail shipping to Belgium would be $13.10, for a total
of $120.10 if you need all three.  Be happy to accept your VISA card.

Call if I can help further.

Thanks,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1357
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 06/23/93 11:34p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
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DD>BTW, Mike accepts plastic, is very knowlegable, friendly, and ships same
day

Unless you get me before I've had my morning coffee, in which case I'm
grouchy, I only take cold hard cash, and I ship if/when I feel like it.
After the first cup, I'm OK. <g>

Thanks again Don, I appreciate the business.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1358
  To: NEIL ALLEN                               Date: 06/23/93 11:34p
Subj: Nightwatch Interactive!!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NA> MS> WOW!!   New > INTERACTIVE < Adult video CD!  Only . . . .
NA> MS> $65.00

NA>        Hi Mike,  can you tell me if this CD requires more than the
NA>conventional RAM in order to run properly, and does it run fine on a 286?

Neil,

To run this properly, you need a 386+ CPU and 4-megs of RAM.  It needs
Windows 3.1 also.

Yeah I know, kind of a high-$$$ hardware hog, but it IS an impressive
disc!

Hope that helps,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1359
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/23/93 11:34p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
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TW>MS>We have the Digital Dreams adult CD's in stock now.  Last time I talked
TW>MS>to you, you expressed some interest.  Price is $29.  Gimme a call!

TW>You have the address and the card number. Go ahead and send it. BTW, I'm
TW>going to be returning "My first time" for credit. I'm going to wait
TW>until they fix the problems with it before trying it again.

OK Terry, it's on the way.  Sorry about My First Time, but all the users
I've talked to with non-local bus systems say it runs fine, including my
system, although somewhat choppy because of my old non-multimedia drive.

Talk at ya later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1360
  To: VERNON MELTON                            Date: 06/23/93 11:34p
Subj: NEW CD'S FOR JUNE!!!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
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VM> MS> KODAK PHOTO CD - Photo CD Access software w/ sample
photos...........27.
VM>LEARNING ADVENTURE -

VM>Mike,
VM>I have a Sony CDU7205 CD-Rom Drive and would like to know, if you know, if
VM>this drive Kodak Photo CD compatible.  If it is I will order the above
VM>CD-ROM from you.  Thanks in advance for your help.

Vernon,

From my understanding, it is.  However, I don't sell hardware so I don't
have stats on ALL the latest drives.  Therefore, if anyone knows different,
speak up.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1361
  To: MIKE MCGUIRE                             Date: 06/23/93 11:35p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
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MM>MS>>We have the Digital Dreams adult CD's in stock now.  Last time I
MM>MS>>talked to you, you expressed some interest.  Price is $29.  Gimme
MM>MS>>a call!

MM>I just walked in on this, more info please...Phone #, Payment Options,
Addres
MM>etc.....

Mike,

Hopefully I answered all your questions on the phone the other day! <g>
Thanks again for the order.  Let me know how you like it and the others.

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1362
  To: TIM SCHOOLER                             Date: 06/23/93 11:35p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE$                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TS>regarding Nix Pix I, your reply seemed somewhat short. <g>.. What's
TS>wrong with it ? You carry all of the others...

Tim,

Didn't mean to be short; was just giving an honest answer.  I don't carry
them because of the bestiality content.  I don't deal in those types of
CD's.  Give Ron @ Goosebump Graphics a try.

Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1363
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93 11:35p
Subj: WIN A FREE PIER 2!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

***************************************************************************
 All Starvector customers between now and July 17th will automatically be
 entered in our drawing for a FREE PIER 2 shareware CD!  Drawing will be
 held on Monday, July 19th, with the WINNER ANNOUNCED ON RIME AND FIDONET!
***************************************************************************

----- NO PURCHASE NECESSARY ------- GREAT COMPANION FOR NIGHT OWL 8! -----

+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| To enter Starvector's PIER 2 GIVEAWAY, simply fill out a postcard with  |
| your name, address, and phone number, and mail it to:  Starvector       |
| Software * PO BOX 8160 * Yakima WA 98908.  All entries must be received |
| by Saturday July 17th to qualify.  Entry into this giveaway will be     |
| automatic for all Starvector customers placing orders between June 22,  |
| and July 17th.  One entry per person please.  Drawing held July 19th.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1364
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93 11:35p
Subj: MORE NEW CD TITLES!!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 THE NEW CD'S KEEP POURIN' IN AT STARVECTOR!
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 New stuff for June:

 BUSINESS ASSISTANT - Keep your business profitable and efficient!....19.00
 CD WINBOX - 660mb of fresh, new Windows shareware w/ built-in GUI....29.00
 COOKBOOK HEAVEN - 20,000+ recipes, cookbooks, diet programs, etc.....29.00
 DIGITAL DREAMS - 660mb of ORIGINAL adult GIF scans! No BBS ads.......29.00
 HOT PIX 5 - The newest from Windy City. 600+mb GIF's. BBS ready......34.50
 JOKES & PRANKS - Loads of practical jokes, gags, & trick software....19.00
 KODAK PHOTO CD - Photo CD Access software w/ sample photos...........27.50
 LEARNING ADVENTURE - Educational software & games for ages 5 - 12....19.00
 MONSTER MEDIA '93 - 420mb of PURE 93 shareware! No dupes. w/ manual..33.00
 NIGHTWATCH INTERACTIVE - Full-motion adult video. You control plot...65.00
 PIER 2 - Simply the best shareware CD out! See for yourself!.........45.00
 PORKWARE II - Newest adult release w/ 600+mb of great .GIF's.........37.00
 POWERPAK 3.0 - Classic shareware CD with no "surprise" inside........28.00
 PRECISION MAPPING - Like Street Atlas only better! Runs under DOS....88.00
 QRZ HAM RADIO - 3/93 US callsign database w/ 100's of Ham programs...19.00
 SCI-FI - BBS-ready CD w/ Science fiction games, graphics, etc........28.50
 SEEDY ROM MOVIE DISC - Full-motion video adult CD w/ film clips......45.00
 SHAREWARE STUDIO 2 - Brand new disc. No dupes to #1. BBS-ready.......27.00
 SOFTWARE VAULT 2 - 630+mb of ALL 1993 SHAREWARE! Outstanding CD!.....29.00
 SOUND EFFECTS LIBRARY - Loads of fun and interesting sound FX........34.00
 WORLD TRAVELER - Great collection of world photos....................18.00
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Special Offer #1:  Buy any 5 titles above and deduct 5%
 Special Offer #2:  600mb shareware CD or Windows Game CD only $6 w/ purch.
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1365
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93 11:35p
Subj: AN ALL-93 SHAREWARE CD!!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
 |            THE ONLY 600+mb ALL-1993 SHAREWARE CD IS HERE!              |
 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+

                And the price? . . . . . . . . . $29.00!

 SOFTWARE VAULT 2 * SOFTWARE VAULT 2 * SOFTWARE VAULT 2 * SOFTWARE VAULT 2

 Finally!  A fully BBS-ready shareware CD packed FULL of ONLY 1993 files!
 Software Vault 2 has arrived, and it DOES DELIVER!  This is one of the
 most exciting shareware CD's to come along in a while, so get 'em while
 they're hot!

 * FILES.BBS in each directory
 * Over 50 different software categories, each w/ separate directory
 * Built-in ROMDOOR software for virtually any BBS system.
 * ALL files dated between 1/1/93 and 5/19/93
 * No duplicaton to release 1
 * Built-in multimedia demo can be modified w/ your company name
 * Features "top hits" section w/ most popular programs for Spring '93

 In stock, ready for immediate delivery.............................$29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: DAVID STULTS                           Number: 1366
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/25/93  7:44a
Subj: CD-ROM, discs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FOR SALE:
  Mitsumi Internal CD-ROM drive, 1 mo. old ........... $150
  CD-ROM discs:
    Linux 0.99 - Unix clone, freeware ................ $ 25
    Nightowl 8.0 ..................................... $ 15
    Phoenix-CD (also shareware) ...................... $ 10
    Source CD (source code from MS-DOS/UNIX/etc) ..... $ 15
    ---All of the above--- ........................... $ 50

Prices are --firm-- and do not include shipping.

--David Stults
Tel: 503/650-5022 8am-11pm PST

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From: JOHN ANTHONY                           Number: 1367
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/24/93  5:28a
Subj: TRIANGLE TECHNOLOGIES INC               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1368
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 06/25/93  5:50p
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DR>That's the down-side to accepting pre-orders for any product.  I like
Boris'
DR>approach:  Accept orders after the product is looking you in the face. 
;-)

To which CD's are you referring?  The only one I have that looks me in the
face is that gorgeous chick on the cover of Busty Babes! <g>

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1369
  To: ROBBIE WILKES                            Date: 06/25/93  5:50p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RW>MS>We have the Digital Dreams adult CD's in stock now.  Last time I talked
RW>MS>to you, you expressed some interest.  Price is $29.  Gimme a call!

RW>Have heard good things about this CD, but don't remember the details.
RW>Can you provide a little more information, as well as a total amount to
RW>be pre-payed (incl. shipping, etc), and your address.  May be very
RW>interested in taking one off of your hands.

Robbie,

Digital Dreams is a very nice adult CD with all original scans, and no
BBS ads.  Has FILES.BBS for online use, with around 1700 .GIFs, and 300
animation files.  This is a hot seller, and well worth the 29 bucks if
you ask me.  Total with shipping is $33.  Give me a call if you need
more info, or you can send your order to our address below.

Thanks,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1370
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 06/25/93  5:50p
Subj: DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KR>What exactly is "Dictionaries and Languages"?  Does it include a
KR>translater program?
KR>Also, do you have access to National Lampoon's "rude chess"?

Kirk,

Dictionaries and Languages is a compilation of shareware dictionaries,
thesauruses, word processors, style/syntax checkers, glossaries, foreign
language tutors, etc.  It does have several translator programs too.  If
you can wait about a week, we are going to put the whole line of Chestnut
CD's on sale at $9.95 each, including Dictionaries and Languages.

Sorry, don't have the other title you mentioned.

Give a shout if you need more info.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1371
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/25/93  5:50p
Subj: Me is Mike Somebody                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ> MS>   SLMR 2.1a   If it's British, it leaks.
BJ>We could have hours of fun with this! BTW: Throw in one of your $6

Oh no . . .don't tell me you're brave enough to drive around in a British
car too!  Oh Bob, you poor sucker.  8)

BJ>shareware CDs with the PCX Potpourri package.

The PCX Potpourri is on the way to you.  We're temporarily out of the $6
shareware CD's, but I should have more in shortly.  Be glad to add one
to your next order. <g>
        ^^^^

Later,

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1372
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/25/93  5:50p
Subj: OINK OINK                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>Nope...don't have one. If you're still willing to "take a flyer", I am.
BJ>Send it along with a copy of Lee's PCX Potpourri.

The Porkware rode along with CD Winbox, which hopefully you have by now.
PCX Potpourri went by its lonesome.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1373
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/25/93  5:50p
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: 06/29/93  8:17a                       Private: No 

TH>Isn't Mark Abb*.* Pier's top distributor?

Not any more. <g>  (Sorry Mark - couldn't resist)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1374
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/25/93  5:50p
Subj: GET YOUR RED HOT WINBOX!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   ATTENTION WINDOWS USERS!  Looking for THE BEST Windows shareware CD?
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     FROM THE MAKERS OF CD-POWERBOX . . . . . CD WINBOX 1.0 IS HERE!

      +------------------------+   +---------+   +-----------------+
      |  NO DUPES TO POWERBOX  |   |  640mb  |   |  40 FILE AREAS  |
      +------------------------+   +---------+   +-----------------+

      +-----------------+   +----------------+   +-----------------+
      |  VIRUS-CHECKED  |   |  ONLY $29.00!  |   |  MOSTLY 1993!!  |
      +-----------------+   +----------------+   +-----------------+

 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
  SPECIAL 2-DISC OFFER:  CD WINBOX + CD POWERBOX . . . (no dupes). . . $40
 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1375
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/25/93  5:50p
Subj: INTERACTIVE ADULT CD!                   Refer: NONE
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      WOW!!   New > INTERACTIVE < Adult video CD!  Only . . . . $65.00
      ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

        Introducing NIGHT WATCH, the first "Interactive" full-length
        adult movie!

        You make the rounds with a beautiful late night security guard
        as you check out the action in her complex.

        This is a custom-shot, full length interactive movie with over
        100 minutes of digital video!  Shot from the first person
        point of view, and viewed on a 320 x 240 pixel screen at a
        realistic 10 frames per second, Nightwatch Interactive is the
        first full length adult movie that puts the user directly in
        the action!  All along the way, you encounter erotic situations
        and interact with some of the most gorgeous women you've ever
        seen!  (Req. Windows 3.1)

        QUANTITIES LIMITED . . . . $65.00 while they last. . . . . .

        . . . . . . . Coming soon to a CD-ROM Drive (In) near you!

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: TRENT BUREYKO                          Number: 1376
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  1:38a
Subj: CD-ROM wanted                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for an internal OR external CD_ROM system to run on my Compaq
machine.. I would prefer to purcahse a good used system and some disks as
well, but I would consider new if priced reasonably.. I'm afraid I don't get
on this board too often (my loss) so I would ask if anyone can help me with
this request, to please call me voice at 885-2524 or leave me E-mail on the
CACUG BBS (347-5493). Thanks

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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 1377
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/27/93  6:15a
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>
      Wing Commander I complete    $10.00

 I am interested in this disk. please call me on voice for details on
transfer.   919-375-4707   thanks MIKE PETRO
 þ QMPro 1.50 22-2345 þ Thesaurus: ancient reptile with an excellent
vocabulary


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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 1378
  To: HOWARD MALKIEL                           Date: 06/27/93 10:41p
Subj: CD ROM DISCS TO TRADE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HM>Hi everyone. I have a couple of XXX CD's that I would be willing to trade.
HM>       - Asian Ladies - Pretty new disc, only used 3-4 times.

HM>       - Adult Reference Library - Also new with minimal use.

HM>Let me know what you have to trade, and we'll see if we can hook up.

I would like to trade off with ya.  I have For Adults Only - Volumes 1
and 2.  You interested?

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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 1379
  To: SCOTT HUNSINGER                          Date: 06/27/93 10:41p
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SH>CD's for sale:

SH>Wing Commander II Deluxe Edition
SH>Phoenix CD Version 3.0 (still shrinkwrapped) Lotus 1-2-3 for Windows with
SH>Multimedia Smarthelp The Bible Library Animated Pixels - The Illustrated
Hol
SH>Bible Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective Version I Prophone (3 disk set
of
SH>all phone numbers in U.S.) The Complete Works of William Shakespeare The
SH>Complete Sherlock Holmes Street Atlas USA (for the right price)

I'm interested in the Prophone Disk set.  What year is it for and how
much do you want?

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From: KEVIN LAM                              Number: 1380
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/26/93  6:26a
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 06-24-93 Eric Bravick wrote to All Users... 
 
 EB>        Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00 
 
Hey!  I want this!  Please tell me if I can have it, or if it's sold... 
 
Reply here, or call me at 592-2162 
 
 
 
... OFFLINE 1.43 * RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure. 

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 1381
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 06/27/93  6:39a
Subj: Re: CD Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KP>   Do you have more than one of these drives ??  These are the drives
KP> that you
KP> can connect four all together, Right ?? I might be buying the 4 then.
MK> 
MK> Depending on how many drives you currently have connected to your SCSI
MK> card, you could connect up to 6 of these drives.
MK> 
MK> 205-837-5053
MK> 

Well I have a Mitsumi, But I plan on taking it Out, and putting in these, 
Didn't you have a Package deal if you baught 4 they were like 600.00 ??  I 
was thinking it was you, If so, Oh they also had the controller card with
them
????  

  Well if so, then I will be contacting you, and giving you my info, Because
I
want them.

                        Thanks 
                                       .....|<evin

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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 1382
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/26/93  8:48a
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <24 Jun 93  13:51:18>, Eric Bravick (1:377/53) writes:
 >       Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00
 >       Battle Chess (not ehhanced)  $ 5.00
I'll take these and give $2 for shipping. Does $17 sound good to you?


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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 1383
  To: HOWARD MALKIEL                           Date: 06/27/93  2:14p
Subj: Re: Cd Rom Discs To Trade               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                 *****  Quoting Howard Malkiel to All  *****

 HM> Hi everyone. I have a couple of XXX CD's that I would be willing to
 HM> trade.
 MH>          - Asian Ladies - Pretty new disc, only used 3-4 times.

Greetings Howard, I don't have any discs yet, but I'll offer $20 for this,
plus $2.90 for USPS 2nd day priority shipping.  Let me know if this is
acceptable and I'll drop a check to you.  Regards.

,\\ark


 
... Radioactive halibut will make fission chips.
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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 1384
  To: PAUL SWIDER                              Date: 06/27/93  2:20p
Subj: Re: Cdrom Titles 4 Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   *****  Quoting Paul Swider to All  *****

 PS> Because some people didn't keep their word or there was some trouble
 PS> with  checks, I still have one each of the following CDROM titles from
 PS> my last msg  for sale at prices stated:

 PS> $15.00  Barney Bear Goes to School--for ages 2-6. Listen to stories
 PS> and play  various education
 PS> activities.
 PS> A money order gets same day first class shipping...

 PS> Send order to:
 PS> Paul Swider
 PS> 509 Digger St.
 PS> Las Vegas, Nv.
 PS> 89107

Paul, echo back and confirm you still have the above, and I'll send a MO for
$17 to the above address for the Barney Bear CD.  Regards.



 
... That's a valiant flee that dare eat his breakfast on the lip of a lion
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From: MIKE TUTHILL                           Number: 1385
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 06/27/93  9:10p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Vince,

 VS>     That's about to change, Don. I'll be sending you some information
 VS> right after the Toronto Comdex.

I'd also appreciate any info you can provide Vince.

203-10120 Manning Ave.
Ft. McMurray, AB.
T9H 2C3

By the way. I registered CD-ROM Pro a week or so ago and am quite pleased
with it and would recommend it highly to anyone else out there that wants a
good CD-ROM database program.

Take care.

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1386
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/28/93  1:01a
Subj: RED HOT CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $39.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - MONSTER MEDIA '93'   PRICE - $29.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $30.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - WINBOX - GAMEWARE - CD POWERBOX    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $15. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $55. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
                     24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO


Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1387
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/28/93  1:01a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $369.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $459.00
Sony Int 380ms Bare Dr  - $285.00 LIMITED Sony Ext 380ms Kit   - $395.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $14.00ec
Information on the above or 400 + CD titles call (216) 225-3263 anytime !


Boris Osadciw

... Every Silver lining has a clone around it.
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From: MATTHEW MATHERS                        Number: 1388
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 06/26/93 12:09p
Subj: Re: Digital dreams for sa               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

JJ> Digital Dreams adult CD for sale
JJ> perfect condition, just released.
JJ> 630 + megs with many many .GIF file viewers, utilities.
JJ> BBS ready
JJ> 25.00

I am very interested in this CD if you can guarantee that it will be free
from scratches (read errors).  If it is, I will take it for $25 shipped.
Let me know by calling me at (309) 788-5077, call my BBS at (309) 788-5069,
or leave a message here.  Thanx!


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From: MATTHEW MATHERS                        Number: 1389
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/26/93 12:16p
Subj: Re: 4MB SIMMS trade for C               Refer: NONE
Read: 06/29/93  8:20a                       Private: No 

->                             Best deal for 4MB SIMMS!

TH> This is the CDROM_SALE echo. Please stay on topic.
TH> tim
TH> moderator

Thank you Moderator but next time read the whole message.  It stated: "I
would be willing to trade 4 MB SIMMS for a SCSI CD drive".
Once again thank you but lay off.


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From: MICHAEL GIUNTOLI                       Number: 1390
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93  9:35p
Subj: Pioneer 6 disc changer                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        I want to start a bbs. I have been looking at both
the Pioneer DRM-600A & DRM-604X changer. As i have read
the 604X is twice as fast as the 604X. The difference is
the 604X is 300ms with 612kb transfer rate compared to the
600A's 153kb transfer rate.
        Ok, Its twice as fast. The modem only transfers at 14.4k
and soon to be 28.8k. That is still faster than 28.8k
        And it also says you can either use a 8 bit or 16 bit
controller for either drive. If someone could enlighten me
on a few things such as. Software compatability, Drivers.
Which is best for a BBS? Speed is importand dont get me wrong.
But as long as its fast enough to run the bbs without any
long stretch waiting time. Please respond if you know about
these things.. Thanks
                                Michael
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From: MICHAEL GIUNTOLI                       Number: 1391
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93  9:39p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Ive noticed alot of people wanting to hook up more than 1 cdrom drive
to there systems. I would like to know what drives
are available to handle 6 drives + piggybacked. Without needing to 
use multiple IRQ's ETC.. Or in other terms DAISYCHAINED cd roms.
                        Please Respond..
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From: MICHAEL GIUNTOLI                       Number: 1392
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/26/93 10:17p
Subj: Re: CDROM DRIVE Specials                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to Ed Fortin, Boris Osadciw said:
 > >>  *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S

 > >> Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare
 > >> -$1199.

 > >>    Are these Canadian or US prices ? Do the prices include all
 > >>    taxes?

 > These are all US prices and the only thing not in the price
 > is the
 > shipping.

 > Hope this helps....

 > Boris Osadciw

 > ... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
 > --- FMail 0.94
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 > (1:157/46)
    
        Boris, The DRM600 Drive. Are the drives Refurbished or used?
And Do you have the interface that goes with the drive. & is software
and drivers included with the drive. Or is it a strippo.. Do you 
Warrenty your msde. And if so how long? And do you take Visa/MSTERCARD.

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From: ROBERT LEDERMAN                        Number: 1393
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93  6:57a
Subj: Oxford English Dictionary               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anybody know where to get the Oxford English Dictionary on CD-ROM?
I had heard that it is quite expensive.

Please let me know.
Thanks
Robert
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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 1394
  To: SABINE VAN DEN AUDENAERDE                Date: 06/26/93  1:55p
Subj: GEEZ                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SVDA> Hi!

 > I.M.H.O. RESELLERS WHO ASK PEOPLE TO REPLY IN THIS ECHO
 > FOR A CATALOG ARE JUST FREELOADING OFF THE SYSOPS AND DRIVING
 > AWAY CASH CUSTOMERS WHO GET DAM TIRED OF "SEND CATALOG TO"
 > ANYBODY HAVING A REAL BUSINESS SHOULD HAVE AN 800 #....

 SVDA> Trying to be funny, Warren? We overseas-customers 
 SVDA> CANNOT dial any 800-number ... so there is no other 
 SVDA> means for us except netmail or FAX to request a 
 SVDA> catalog ... But I agree, netmail would clear things 
 SVDA> up a little ... ;)

       Warren makes a valid point about all the folks posting their addresses
for catalog requests. I would disagree about the "Real Business" needing to
have an 800 number. I don't want one because it helps weed out the less than
serious types.....We figure folks who'll spend a little to call us are much
more likely to real buyers and not waste our time and money.

      Sabine, when I started promoting the idea that folks shouldn't be
posting their addresses in the *other* CDROM conference for literature
requests it was reccomended that it shouldn't apply the folks outside the
U.S./Canada since most of the dealers there were U.S. based.

    DCK


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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 1395
  To: MAC USERS                                Date: 06/26/93  3:59p
Subj: Apple Service Info CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Apple Service Info CD's (Service Source CDROM) Jan 93 edition

Contains 75mb of information on servicing Apple products including
compact, modular and notebook CPU's, printers, monitors and network
products. Extensive exploded views of assemblies, including service,
disassembly and adjustment procedures in hypercard format for quick
and easy reference. Covers current (to 1/93) and many discontinued
models. If you're into Macs and have a CDROM it's a great resource.

   We have lots (100+) in stock but they won't last forever!

Price: $18 includes shipping & handling in the U.S. (1st class)
Mail Orders: Sonoma Online, POB 7518, Santa Rosa CA 95407 (707)545-7533
Local Sales: Visit our office at 3928 Sebastopol Rd., Santa Rosa CA

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From: BOB BREED                              Number: 1396
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 06/26/93  4:28p
Subj: Re: Toshiba Cd Drive                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MK> 1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure
 MK> with power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O,
 MK> and 90- 240 VAC universal input.  $215.00
 MK> 
 MK> 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00
 MK> 
 MK> Both Drives Include:  90 Day Warranty, External DIP switches, True 50
 MK> pin SCSI, 350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume,
 MK> newest ROM installed.  Diagnostic/cleaning done by service center. 
 MK> NO special drivers required.  5.25 - HH Drive. 64k Buffer and manual.
 MK> MPC Compatible 
    I have an Toshiba XM-3100B. It has the same access and 
transfer speeds that you quote, but lacks the newest ROM. Is this 
drive worth upgrading to the new ROM? (I assume it makes it XA 
rated?) About what did it run to have yours upgraded? Is the 64K 
buffer also an upgrade?


... Sure, drinking kills brain cells, but only the weak ones.
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From: CHARLES HELD                           Number: 1397
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  3:56p
Subj: Cd-rom direct                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Having seen the vendor CD-ROM DIRECT recommended by some here, I decided to
order a Toshiba 3401B internal drive from them.  The salesman quoted prices
of $419 for a bare drive and $439 for a bundle with a SCSI cable and the
Software Toolworks US Atlas CD (shipping $10 additional).  I opted for the
bundle.  My money order for $449 went out on April 12, 1993.  I was told when
I ordered that the drive was in stock.  This was not the case, and I called
back two weeks later to be told by a receptionist who sounded like she didn't
even know what she was doing that "it would ship tomorrow".  It didn't.  I
did receive a call from a salesman telling me that they were out of stock on
the Atlas and offered me an alternative disk.  I stated that I would just
wait until the Atlas came in and they could ship it separately.  Well, in
mid-May the drive finally arrived.  No Toshiba box. NO CABLE.  NO DRIVERS.  A
"manual" that was copied and hand-stapled.  No warranty information or
registration card. I have called repeatedly asking for the cable and have
been told multiple times (I think by Miss Stoned-and-Not-Caring,
unfortunately) that the cable was on its way.  Then I finally got to speak
with someone who sounded like she was in charge, but acted like a TOTAL
BITCH.  After finally acquiescing and agreeing to send me the cable, I came
home this past Thursday to find a Federal Express notice on my door saying
that I had a COD package.  The shipper?  CD-ROM DIRECT.  The COD amount?
 $439!!!  They sent me another God-Damned Drive!  (And probably without a
cable! <G>)  So here I am nearly three months after my initial order without
a useable drive.  If anyone from CD-ROM DIRECT monitors this echo, and if you
think that you're going to ruin my credit by making me refuse a COD package
you can go STRAIGHT TO HELL.  I am calling your Better Business Bureau first
thing on Monday morning and pursuing this matter to the fullest extent of the
law.

    DO NOT ORDER FROM CD-ROM DIRECT!!!!!!
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From: ROBERT ANDRES                          Number: 1398
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93 11:40p
Subj: CD-Rom Discs 4sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following applications (on CD-Rom disc) for sale:

Windows 3.1 (includes 195 page manual)--------------------$45.00
Software Toolworks Encyclopedia---------------------------$45.00

In addition, I have the following CD-Rom utilities/games on disc:

U.S. Atlas 1.5 with Automap-------------------------------$29.00
Space Quest IV--------------------------------------------$27.00
King's Quest V--------------------------------------------$25.00
Shareware Overload (games, utilities etc)-----------------$19.00
Wrath of The Demon----------------------------------------$19.00
Phoenix 3.0 shareware disc (lots games, utilities)--------$19.00

Add $2.00 for shipping.  Drop me a e-mail here or give me a
call at 202-574-8911.

Robert Andres

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From: STEVE LIN                              Number: 1399
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/27/93  1:30p
Subj: Florida Lion's Den & DevOnline          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > The shareware disc we are working on now
 > requires we peek at each file closely to see if it is forbidden on
 > CD

Let me know if you're going to have a BBS or DOORs section on your S/W CD. If
so, and would like to include a few DevOnline DOORs there with a file stating
the authenticity of the files as sent directly from a DevPal site, fire a
NetMail msg this way. =(:->)

I'm just getting tired of all the S/W CD's with messed-up copies of DevOnline
software... I'm still getting calls from confused and/or frustrated CD
buyers!

I think you consistently deliver a quality product and hope you continue in
your endeavors.

Also, if you need to make inquiries concerning DOOR products by other authors
participating in DoorNet (Radical Wave, Banzai, T&J, Sunrise, Damar,
Ponyware, etc.), please feel free to ask in DoorNet, or if you don't have a
DoorNet site near you, I'd be happy to forward your questions.

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From: RICH GURELL                            Number: 1400
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/28/93  6:53p
Subj: This echo                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Uncle Rich's BBS is now echoing this conference.

*** Always on the level ***

 <-= Uncle Rich =->

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1401
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 06/29/93  8:07a
Subj: OUR TRADE                               Refer: 4773
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> address.  Take care of this immediately.

Why not call Terry?  A telephone is a wonderful gizmo and allows you to
talk to someone *immediately*, instead of waiting 3-4 days as this echo
requires.  Terry's number is 305-581-5060.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1402
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/29/93  8:09a
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams               Refer: 4782
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->    This review is broken up into several FIDO posts: Statistics,

That's good stuff...

tim
moderator
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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1403
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/27/93  8:04p
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Doug!

Saturday June 26 1993, Doug Carpenter writes to Dave Reed:

 DC> That is one reason I'm not taking preorders for Nightowl 9.  I have an
 DC> order in with a distributor, but they stated up front, they don't know
 DC> what their price is yet.  Reminds you of Nightowl 8, huh? <g>.

Reminds me of Night Owl's v(insert any version number here).  ;-)

Later,

Dave.

... First Hillary, then Jennifer... now US!

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From: MAX HILL                               Number: 1404
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  8:17p
Subj: OVERSEAS DIST. WANTED                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 The producers of BigSky ROM are actively seeking overseas
 distributors for BigSky ROM and future releases.  If you
 are a qualified distributor with distribution points no
 less than 1,000 km or are willing to join our growing
 network of distributors and establish a network meeting
 this criterion, please respond by fax with your experience/
 qualifications to 406-586-3774 or by FEDEX letter to KHE
 Computer Systems, 512 N Rouse Av, Bozeman MT  59715.

 You may also respond to Fido address 1:3400/26 Max Hill
 with your credentials and whatever other information you
 feel is relevant.  All mail sent Fido is to be sent
 receiver only.

 Thank you.
 Max Hill
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From: DON NELSON                             Number: 1405
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93  2:41a
Subj: Programmers CD                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can anyone recommend a _GOOD_ CD that caters to programmers and programming
utilities?  Other stuff on the disk would be acceptable, but I'm mainly
looking for a programming related CD.  BBS ready is not absolutely necessary,
but would be a benefit.

As Always, Thanks,

Don 
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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 1406
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/28/93  6:04p
Subj: NEC and Hitachi                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SP>  Does anyone know if you can run two different kinds of CD-ROM drives 
  > on the same system?I would like to have a NEC or other fast speed drive 
  > for personal use and a Hitachi or other slower drive for a BBS. 
 
 Well, considering I run a hitachi3600u and 3 hitachi 3500's on one 
card, a magnavox external on another card, and a mitsumi on yet another 
card, i think it's safe for me to tell you that you'll have no problems 
mixing cdrom brand names if you run them on seprate controllers and make 
sure you use different IRQ's/Addresses on each 
 
        ...tim klan 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1407
  To: STEVE O'BRIEN                            Date: 06/27/93  9:08p
Subj: CD ROM FILE LISTINGS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  > I am looking for (among other things) a place (BBS; a disk; paper 
  >(although paper wouldn't be the environmental choice))  that has the lists 
  >of most, some, one or two adult CD listings.  I really cannot see it as a 
  >hard thing to do since most of the Cds come with the listings (FILES.BBS . 
  >. .) on them.  [SOAPBOX] To place these files in the accessible user would 
  >be an excellent marketing ploy [END SOAPBOX]  So if you or anyone else 
  >knows of this info please be a chum; a buddy old' pal and drop me a line! 
 
Have I got a deal for you! <G>  If you will call the Computer Works BBS, 
and are over 21, I will give you access to several such file lists.  You 
can download all you like.  Give me a page or leave me a comment, and I 
will upgrade you asap. 
 
                                                          Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 14.4k 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1408
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  9:09p
Subj: CD WinBox!                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DP>Damar Enterprises announces the introduction of a NEW 
  >Windows-based Shareware CD-ROM: 
 
DP>              *#############*    Available from better 
  >              #  CD WinBox  #    dealers in this echo! 
  >              *#############* 
 
DP>This is a GREAT addition to folks that already own our first 
  >release, the CD PowerBox.  If you're into Windows - the 
  >WinBox is for you.  Here are the disk's stats: 
 
This is a great Windows CD-Rom, and it is also easy to set up.  If 
anybody wants to check it out, I have it online at Computer Works. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 14.4k 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1409
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 06/27/93  9:09p
Subj: 7th guest trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RD>In a message of <15 Jun 93  00:36:00>, Joseph Wolfson (1:374/31) writes: 
  >>Sears carries it for $59 at all it's stores...... 
  >You shouldn't spout information you don't know. Our Sears in Casper, Wyoming

  >wants $79, as I'm sure most do. Sears almost _always_ charges MSRP, or real 
  >close to it. They must have made a mistake at yours, because they would neve

  >sell it that cheap. 
 
I saw it (7th Guest) yesterday at Sam's Club for $45. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: EARL BONSER                            Number: 1410
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/29/93 12:32a
Subj: Florida Lion's Den In                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Think of this.....how many people do you know that purchase Shareware CD
-> roms do not call BBS's or other Information services that Shareware files
-> may be available?  If the answer is one or more.....then I believe the
-> producers of shareware software should be fighting to get their works
-> included in the best selling CD's.

I agree, but ask some of the CD producers what type of response they get from
some shareware authors.  Check out some of the discussions that go on in the
CI$ ASP conference and the Fido ASP conference.  The small minds of some small
shareware authors keep their shareware business small <g>.  Some of them don't
even like their software posted on BBS's and think direct marketing and rack
vending is the only way they can keep control of their products.  Idots.  Why
would anyone spend $5 for a single floppy that contains the same program they
can get from almost any BBS for free.  And the reason it's on the BBS is
probably because it's on a CD!
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1411
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 06/29/93 12:40a
Subj: sellin' some Roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> I'll take Microsoft Bookshelf 92, is that the one which has all the
>> dictionaries and thesaurus's???  I would also like to know more about
>> the US history like megs and whatever?

    Sorry, sold both of 'em.  Here is what I have left:

Another "cleaning out some of the stuff from my apartment so that I can
walk around without stepping on it" sale.

CDRoms for sale:

       Ultima 1-6                   $20.00
       Sherlock Holmes 1            $15.00
       Masterpiece Library          $25.00
       Family Doctor                $25.00

Reply here or Netmail, whichever you prefer...

Eric


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1412
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 06/29/93 12:42a
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> Hmmm.........can do for these uf you throw $95 cash for the difference
>> in drive price.  Or you can hold these for a week and I can get a brand
>> new Maxtor 213 and then the cash difference would be $70.00

    Well, these roms are flyin' out of here.  I guess it is going to be
hard to do a deal.  Sold most of the list, maybe I'll catch you next time
around.

Eric


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1413
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 06/27/93  8:18p
Subj: Cheap CD-ROM Drives                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 
 TB>  I  have  some  used  Hitachi  3500  internals  for  $130  each.
 TB> Controller cards are  $60  that  will  run  up  to  4  of  these
 TB> drives.
  
 JP> I thought these controllers would handle EIGHT  of  the  drives?
  
  Yes, these controller cards (TDCIF8) will handle up to  eight  cd
  rom drives  *IF* those drives have the necessary jumpers.   Since
  the Hitachi 3500's only have 4 jumpers ONLY 4 of these drives can
  be run on any single card.  I have 8 3600's  running  beautifully
  on one of these cards if you want to call and check it  out.   My
  bbs number is 205-824-2611
 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1414
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/29/93 10:24a
Subj: CD WINBOX - GET ONE!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> assume you still want the Porker too, and I'll send it along for  
 MS> Just send it back if you don't like it.                           
                                                                       
  
The review has been posted. There's not much on it I don't already have, 
except for one directory <G>.  If you'll give me a "reviewer's price", 
you can go ahead an put it on my tab. Let me know. 
  
BTW: The installation disk gives evidence of a Pork-Ware II.  If/When 
you get these, I'd like to look at it as well. Cheers! 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1415
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/29/93 10:43a
Subj: DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> CD's on sale at $9.95 each, including Dictionaries and Languages  
                                                                       
  
I'll take one; send it along with the $6 CD (and Oink 2) to save 
shipping. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1416
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/29/93 10:46a
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> BBS ads.  Has FILES.BBS for online use, with around 1700 .GIFs,   
 MS> animation files.  This is a hot seller, and well worth the 29 bu  
                                                                       
  
The copy reviewed (from Jim Lanbert) had *NO* aminations files (e.g. 
.FLI, .GL, .DL) on it. There was a gob of utility programs, tho'.  Maybe 
you're thinking of Oink 2? The directory listing for it (from the 
installation disk) showed some animated files. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1417
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/29/93 10:49a
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS: $29!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS>              * All original scans from the McHenry BBS            
                                                                       
  
Apparently there are *TWO* CDs out with the same name!! The one from ERO 
TEK has no animations. The one from McHenry is apparently called 
"Digital Dreams - The McHenry Collection". I think a lot of folks are 
gonna get confused. 
  
For those readers that are interested, I reviewed the ERO TEK (TEC?) 
version. I haven't seen "...The McHenry Collection". 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1418
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/29/93 10:28a
Subj: Me is Mike Somebody                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> BJ> MS>   SLMR 2.1a   If it's British, it leaks.                  
 MS> BJ>We could have hours of fun with this! BTW: Throw in one of yo  
 MS>                                                                   
 MS> Oh no . . .don't tell me you're brave enough to drive around in   
 MS> British                                                           
 MS> car too!  Oh Bob, you poor sucker.  8)                            
                                                                       
  
Nope.  I was just referring to all the various interpretations one could 
associate with the phrase! It could apply to everything from condoms to 
state secrets, and a whole lot more in between. (:? 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1419
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/29/93 10:36a
Subj: OINK OINK                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> PCX Potpourri went by its lonesome.                               
                                                                       
  
Got it....looks pretty good for my purposes. Thanks. 
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From: VERNON MELTON                          Number: 1420
  To: SCOTT HUNSINGER                          Date: 06/27/93  3:55p
Subj: Re: Cd's for sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   -=> Quoting Scott Hunsinger to All <=-

 SH> Wing Commander II Deluxe Edition
 SH> Lotus 1-2-3 for Windows with Multimedia Smarthelp
 SH> The Bible Library
 SH> The Illustrated Holy Bible
 SH> Version I Prophone (3 disk set of all phone numbers in U.S.)
 SH> The Complete Works of William Shakespeare
 SH> The Complete Sherlock Holmes
 SH> Street Atlas USA (for the right price)
Scott,
      How about a price on these CD's?  Kind of hard to make an offer when
you have no idea of the price range you might be willing to accept.  And
remember some of these go for less than $15 retail.....  The only one's I
am interested in are those listed above.  Thanks in advance for your reply.
Later,
      Vernon Melton
 
... $ not found:  A)bort, R)efinance, D)eclare bankruptcy.
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From: DON RIEB                               Number: 1421
  To: PHILIP POLSTRA                           Date: 06/28/93  6:04a
Subj: Re: CDROM changer software              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PP> I got the Shareware Extravaganza for my BBS and am a bit disappointed with
PP> it.  A large number of the files are VERY old.  Many are dated in the mid

Thanks for the report on that, I will not recomend it.  I have not looked at 
it personaly that close, only relied on what some of my custoemers told me 
about it.  With a 4 CDSET I can beleave there is going to be some old files on
there.

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From: HOWARD MALKIEL                         Number: 1422
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/28/93  9:25p
Subj: Cd trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I recently purchased the new Digital Dreams CD, and although it it s great CD,
I thought it was the McHenry type (XXX), and this one is R rated. If anyone out
there would like to trade an XXX for this one, please let me know. Thanks.

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From: HOWARD MALKIEL                         Number: 1423
  To: RICH JACKSON                             Date: 06/28/93  7:16p
Subj: CD ROM DISCS TO TRADE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Rich,
The Asian Ladies has been spoken for already, but I still have the Adult
Reference Library that I'd be willing to sell for $20 plus $5 for shipping and
mailer costs. Let me know if you're still interested. My address is 1454
Southern Court, Warminster PA 18974. Send a money order for the amount, and
I'll ship it out the same day. Please send your address. Thanks.

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 1424
  To: MIKE TUTHILL                             Date: 06/28/93  6:36p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> VS>     That's about to change, Don. I'll be sending you some
-> information VS> right after the Toronto Comdex.
-> I'd also appreciate any info you can provide Vince.
->
-> 203-10120 Manning Ave.
-> Ft. McMurray, AB.
-> T9H 2C3
->
-> By the way. I registered CD-ROM Pro a week or so ago and am quite
-> pleased with it and would recommend it highly to anyone else out
-> there that wants a good CD-ROM database program.

   Thanks Mike!

   We'll be sending out full catalogs in mid-July, and you'll definitely
be on my list.

   Vince
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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 1425
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93  9:18a
Subj: NEW CDROM                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I just got in my "Up All Night" CDROMS.  Around 580 megs, 5200 files.
Search engine uses the SB Compatible cards.  I won't even tell you it is
the best, but I will say it is well worth the money.  I also have some
odds and ends laying around.  Gimme a call at 405-672-1708 if anyone is
interested.

BOB
:-)

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 1426
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93 12:46a
Subj: Night Owls 9 $29                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Night Owl's v. 9 $29
Whether you are a new customer or old customer, we are proud to bring you the
best price available.
PS: We will ship it as available
Payment Terms: VISA/MC/AMEX/Discover/COD
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd.
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400 1-800-373-0628
1-206-473-1634 FAX 1-800-277-5179 FAX

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 1427
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93 12:48a
Subj: CATALOG                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You can always download our catalog from our BBS
Our generic account
First name: CD
Lastname: ROM
Password: CATALOG
Filename: CATALOG.ZIP
 
You can also freq from 1:138/116 or 1:138/120 with CATALOG magic name
 
GroupWare 

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1428
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93 12:18a
Subj: $TARVECTOR CD $ALE!!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

___________________________________________________________________________

                   STARVECTOR CD-ROM BLOWOUT SPECIALS!
___________________________________________________________________________

      - These are special prices, and are for a limited time only.
      - Sale limited to stock on hand, so hurry!

                             GENERAL TITLES
                             --------------
Pier 2..............$37   Shareware Studio 2..$24   Night Owl 7.........$15
Software Vault 2....$24   ProPhone 92.........$28   CD Winbox...........$23
Bibles & Religion...$10   Colossal Cookbook...$10   Our Solar System....$10
Shareware Overload..$10   Windows 93..........$21   SoundWAV............$24
Monster Disc 2-Pak..$34   Monster Media 93....$28   Prog. Mega Pack.....$29
Total Baseball......$22   Shareware 93........$18   House of Games......$20
Deathstar Arcade....$10   Sound Sensations....$10   Windoware...........$10
Ham Radio 3.0.......$10   Technotools.........$10   Too Many Typefonts..$10
Complete Bookshop...$10   Clipart Goliath.....$10   Dictionaries/Lang...$10
Business Phonebook..$19   Barney Bear Space...$19   Barney Bear School..$19
Fontmaster 1........$15   ProPhone 93........$118   Otherware...........$20

                      ADULT TITLES (Must state 21+)
                      -----------------------------
Busty Babes.........$29   Seedy 6-Pak........$119   PC-PIX 1............$28
Ecstasy Hot Pics....$29   Asian Ladies........$29   PC-PIX 2............$28
Hot Pix 2...........$28   Digital Dreams......$28   PC-PIX 3............$28
Porkware............$29   Storm 3.............$28   Private Collection..$29

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1429
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93 12:18a
Subj: MISSED MESSAGES                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To all who have sent me mail over the past week or so, I apologize if you
did not receive my replies.  My local board has been experiencing some
problems, and some personal mail has not been going out.  If you sent me
mail and didn't receive a reply, please re-send.

Thanks,
Mike Shannon
Starvector Software
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1430
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93 12:18a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 ONLY $45!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS!   NOW TAKING RESERVE ORDERS FOR THE LATEST
AND GREATEST NIGHT OWL OF ALL . . .
                                    . . . N  I  G  H  T      O  W  L
                                              |   |        +=======+
PRICE:  $45.00                            ====|===|====    ||     ||
                                              |   |        ||     ||
SPECIAL EARLY BIRD OFFER                  ====|===|====    +=======|
------------------------                      |   |               ||
Order before July 1, and                                          ||
receive your choice of:                       +-----+             ||
                                              | $45 |
    . Software Vault 2                        +-----+
    . Shareware Studio 2
    . Powerpak 3.0
    . Night Owl 7 . . . . . . . . . for ONLY $15 additional!

or  . Night Owl 8 . . . . . . . . . for ONLY $25 additional!

CALL TO RESERVE YOUR COPY TODAY! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1-800-767-1284
OPERATORS (Rainie & I) ARE STANDING BY!   CARDS NOT CHARGED UNTIL SHIPMENT.

***************************************************************************
Plus, all Starvector customers between now and July 17th will automatically
be entered in our drawing for a FREE PIER 2 shareware CD!  Drawing will be
held on Monday, July 19th, with the WINNER ANNOUNCED ON RIME AND FIDONET!
***************************************************************************

----- NO PURCHASE NECESSARY -------- GREAT COMPANION FOR NIGHT OWL 8! -----

+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| To enter Starvector's PIER 2 GIVEAWAY, simply fill out a postcard with  |
| your name, address, and phone number, and mail it to:  Starvector       |
| Software * PO BOX 8160 * Yakima WA 98908.  All entries must be received |
| by Saturday July 17th to qualify.  Entry into this giveaway will be     |
| automatic for all Starvector customers placing orders between June 22,  |
| and July 17th.  One entry per person please.  Drawing held July 19th.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1431
  To: DAN DOCHSTADER                           Date: 06/29/93 12:18a
Subj: NUMBER                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DD>     Hi Mike, I need your business number. Thanks...

Dan:  509-457-2892 during normal business hours.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1432
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 06/29/93 12:18a
Subj: SCSI DRIVE                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JP>Would you be interested in a 1.1 gigabyte 4mm SCSI Tape backup?

James,

Nope, sorry - not in the market for one right now.  We're having a sale
on some of the adult titles right now though, so if you've been thinking
about buying, now's the time!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 1433
  To: CHARLES HELD                             Date: 06/29/93  9:03a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom direct                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Having seen the vendor CD-ROM DIRECT recommended by some here, I decided
> to order a Toshiba 3401B internal drive from them.  The salesman quoted
Dear Charles,
I will not defend the company you have mentioned. However, original Toshiba
3401B comes with only a caddy and bare drive. (no manual, cable, sound cable).
I always advise to our customers about what they are getting into. Usualy
individual buys another drive or accepts his/her destinity to get the drive
working with no help. However, if you need help with your drive, I will more
than happy to help you out.
 
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX 

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 1434
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93  9:43p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a copy of The 7th Guest I would like to trade for other CD's. I will
consider all trades. What have you got???

Thanks,
Michael


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1435
  To: KEVIN LAM                                Date: 06/29/93 12:18p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> EB>        Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00
>>
>> Hey!  I want this!  Please tell me if I can have it, or if it's sold...

    Sorry, sold already.

Eric


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1436
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 06/29/93 12:19p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> In a message of <24 Jun 93  13:51:18>, Eric Bravick (1:377/53) writes:
>> >       Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00
>> >       Battle Chess (not ehhanced)  $ 5.00
>> I'll take these and give $2 for shipping. Does $17 sound good to you?

    Sorry, sold 'em.

Eric


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From: TOM STILES                             Number: 1437
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/29/93  7:00p
Subj: ROMS FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Still waiting for the Cd you sold me.

Tom
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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 1438
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/29/93  9:18p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EB>    Well, these roms are flyin' out of here.  I guess it is going to be
EB>hard to do a deal.  Sold most of the list, maybe I'll catch you next time
EB>around.

Well tell you I offer a Quantum 84 meg SCSI for the NASA set if you
still have it.......
 þ OLX 2.1 TD þ --T-A+G-L-I+N-E--+M-E-A+S-U-R+I-N-G+--G-A+U-G-E--


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From: DONALD MACKAY                          Number: 1439
  To: SCOTT HUNSINGER                          Date: 06/29/93  8:17a
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Scott,

SH>I believe it's already sold.   If the deal falls through,
SH>though, I'll take $20 shipped for it.  Thanks for the reply!

Sounds good to me. Let me know how it goes.

ttyl /user/dan
___
 X SLMR 2.1a X All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here.

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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 1440
  To: BOB SPILLERS                             Date: 06/28/93 11:46p
Subj: Re: Which Is Best?                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Bob Spillers to Eddie Phillips <=-

 BS> Thanks a lot Eddie. I now know more than I did when I sent the
 BS> message. You answered it just the way I need to keep me from getting
 BS> confused. It won't be long before I have me a CD Rom.     ITKU

You'll like it when you get it !!
 
... If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving isn't for you
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From: DOUG STRIEFLER                         Number: 1441
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/29/93 12:14a
Subj: Cd rom burners                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for your reply.

I have already gotten a lower price but not by much

Would you be able to tell me what else besides a P C

that I will require to produce my own C D 's. Also

what is the price for the blank roms.

Is the quoted price in U.S or canadian dollars

                    Thanks   Doug


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From: BRIAN WHEATLEY                         Number: 1442
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/29/93 10:42a
Subj: Re: .TXT files                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry, I didn't receieve the mail, I am VERY interested, I havent found very
many .TXT files, any where, But I need my money, for my Trip to Ontario, etc.
But I have some IBM Part's. Like 286/12mhz MotherBoard, VGA Card, Monochrome
Graphics Card, 720k drives, Monochrome Monitor, Cga Color Monitor, etc.

Brian.

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From: JIM HUSBAND                            Number: 1443
  To: VERNON MELTON                            Date: 06/28/93  9:17p
Subj: FOR TRADE - MAGAZINEI                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

|VM> of dictionarys.  Hope this helps.  Now, how about that trade?          |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+

    Vernon,
    I'm really not interested in the Sony Language Disk. Since
you've gone to the trouble to reply (twice) I'd really like to
arrange something with you. In all honesty, the MR 1991 is also
cumbersome... and slow. If you are still interested, and have
anything else to offer let me know.

                                                Regards,
                                                Jim

 * MegaMail 2.10 #0:


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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 1444
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/19/93  5:54p
Subj: DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Howdy Mike,

25 Jun 93, Mike Shannon writes to Kirk Rawnsley:

 MS> language tutors, etc.  It does have several translator programs too.  If
 MS> you can wait about a week, we are going to put the whole line of Chestnut
 MS> CD's on sale at $9.95 each, including Dictionaries and Languages.

I'll wait the week, want to place an order for several though.  Our
customs people charge a $5 "processing" fee, so might as well get a
few...

 MS> Sorry, don't have the other title you mentioned.

Me too, maybe in a week (grin).

 MS> Give a shout if you need more info.

Count on it.

TTYL

          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: BEN WARREN                             Number: 1445
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93 10:10p
Subj: cd-rom for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a Magnavox external cdd401 cd rom for sale.It has 500 ms avg.
access time.It is not mpc compatible,but would be a good unit for a
bbs.It is only a week old,but it is not what i really wanted.I would
take $ 185.00 for it.It comes with it's own 8-bit card and cable.contact
me on this echo or at 913-236-6930.thank you.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1446
  To: MICHAEL GIUNTOLI                         Date: 06/30/93  1:47a
Subj: Re: CDROM DRIVE Specials                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    * In a message originally to Ed Fortin, Boris Osadciw said:
 >> >>  *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S

 >> >> Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare
 >> >> -$1199.

 >> >>    Are these Canadian or US prices ? Do the prices include all
 >> >>    taxes?

 >> These are all US prices and the only thing not in the price
 >> is the
 >> shipping.

>>
>>            Boris, The DRM600 Drive. Are the drives Refurbished or
>>            used? And Do you have the interface that goes with the
>>     drive. & is software and drivers included with the drive. Or
>>     is it a strippo.. Do you Warrenty your msde. And if so how
>>     long? And do you take Visa/MSTERCARD.

These are BRAND NEW, never driven units. As for the interface, yes we
have them as well at $100. additional as this also comes with the
shielded cable and drivers.
As for the warrenty, it's done thru us for 1 year and we accept
both Visa/MasterCard as payment and do not charge a surcharge for it.

Interested in additional information, call us at the above and we'll
be glad to help you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 1447
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/29/93  9:54a
Subj: Re: Weekly Specials!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Dave Reed <06-25-93 17:50> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS>> To which CD's are you referring?  The only one I have that looks me
MS>> in the
MS>> face is that gorgeous chick on the cover of Busty Babes! <g>

She has been out of print since April--She is back, she is better, SHE IS BUSTY
BABES--Will be back with distribution in July--The new cover uses FLAMES/FIRE
inside the font, and the disc says Release 3.0, so you can tell the difference
between the old one and the new one--The back of the cover is 100% different
too.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1448
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/28/93  6:55a
Subj: Cd rom burners                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  DS> Does anyone know of any good deals on cd rom burners
->
->  DS> preferably the Phillips model
->
-> How about $4,800?  I can get you one for that plus shipping and handl
              ^^^^^
That's a heck of a buy... This time last year a one-off machine with
software cost about 8 grand.

tim


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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 1449
  To: DAVID STULTS                             Date: 06/29/93  1:22p
Subj: CD-ROM, discs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DS>    Nightowl 8.0 ..................................... $ 15

David-

I'll take it + 2.90 for 2nd-day USPS. Leave me you address & preferred payment
via Netmail if availible or here. Thank

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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 1450
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/29/93 11:22p
Subj: cd info                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BJ> This isn't as easy as it sounds...and I'm working with a 486/66!!  Watch

Need a Pentium, eh? :)

 BJ> I'm anxious to know what folks on the echo think about my procedure and   
   hopefully be willing to help me make it better.

I commend you, as I know this information will be invaluable for users! I'm
sure it will be even better with user input. :)

 BJ> Cheers for now!!

Ditto!
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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 1451
  To: CLINT SAVAGE                             Date: 06/29/93  9:32a
Subj: Help... please!!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS>DOS V6 has it's own MSCDEX.EXE Get rid or all other copies and use the
CS>DOS 6 version.. That should help! You should try to find the utility
CS>FIND I will check your full HD for files.. The funny thing is that you
CS>can't "read" the version # of the NEW MSCDEX.EXE with the LIST utility
CS>it appeared that Microsoft encoded it??????????????  good luck..


I doubt they ENCODED it.   Microsoft is using PKLITE on the executables now.

lOYD

===
 * OLX 2.1 * I am Homer of Borg.  Prepare to be assim..AHH DONUTS!


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From: BRIAN HURLEY                           Number: 1452
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/29/93 10:21a
Subj: Pork-Ware 1 Review                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bo,


Great reviews!   You obviously took time to go through each one...  Keep up
the good work and I'd like to read more reviews if you get a chance.  Maybe
even some of the older cd's, and or shareware/non-x-gif/etc.   Also a
comparison of each like Total Bytes, %dups, avg image size, and whatever else
you can do...

One question.  Does all the x-cd's gifs have bbs logos on them?  If not which
ones that you've seen?


Brian


 * OLX 2.2 * Does The Little Mermaid wear an algebra?


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From: JERRY MICKISH                          Number: 1453
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/29/93  9:38p
Subj: Re: SELLIN' SOME ROMS                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Just curious, where did you get the NASA image ROMS. I know you have recieved a
couple of offers for them, so I probably won't be able to get yours, but I am
interested in them. I have one that I got from a friend, and have not been able
to get anymore. Any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated.  
--Jerry--


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From: SCOTT HUNSINGER                        Number: 1454
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 06/29/93  8:34a
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I'm interested in the Prophone Disk set.  What year is it for
 > and how
 > much do you want?
The Prophone Set is 3 CD's, and it is the 1992 version.  It includes the entire
United States Residential AND Business phone number.  If you are interested,
please give me a call at (704) 782-6726 to confirm.  Thanks for the reply!
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From: JERRY MASON                            Number: 1455
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/29/93 12:43p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->   I wish that this had come earlier, I have already sold some of
-> the Roms.  This is what I have left:
->
-> Another "cleaning out some of the stuff from my apartment so that I
-> can walk around without stepping on it" sale.
->
-> CDRoms for sale:
->
->      Time Tables of History S+I   $15.00
->      Ultima 1-6                   $20.00
->      Sherlock Holmes 1            $15.00
->      Masterpiece Library          $25.00
->      Family Doctor                $25.00
->      Greatest Books 150           $20.00
->      NASA Voyager Image data set only
->        (there are 12 of these, 3 for each planet voyager 1 and 2
->         visited, 0% duplication of data between roms, over 7 GIG
->         of image data, comes with disk containing software nedded
->         to view images, which are in some strange NASA format, will
->         sell set for $85)
->
-> Reply here or Netmail, whichever you prefer...

I will take the Book CD if it is still available.


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1456
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 06/29/93 11:42a
Subj: NEW PRICE  "CREAM OF THE                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 Cream of the Crop Shareware cd is now available for  $29  to  the
  public.  Sysops  listed  in  Nodelist.dat  can  still  get a  $10
  discount of the new price.  Cream of the Crop features  only  the
  best shareware programs released in 91  and  92.   1,500  of  the
  5,000 + programs included on Cream of the Crop were not  upgraded
  in 92 and were included to make this  the  best  possible  single
  disc for a sysop with only one or two cd's on line.  Cream of the
  Crop does not have space hungry .gif's, or large  collections  of
  programs for sysops only. Cream of the Crop  does  have  programs
  for automatic and  INSTANT  installation  on  the  following  bbs
  programs --- Maximus, Spitfire,  RA,  Quick  BBS,  and a  partial
  setup for PCBoard.  Call 205-824-2552 to order or simply net mail
  your address (1:3625/441) and it will be shipped  c.o.d. the  day
  after I  get your order.  If you are not satisfied with this disc
  I will trade it for any other shareware disc I have in stock.
 
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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 1457
  To: BOB BREED                                Date: 06/30/93  5:53a
Subj: Re: Toshiba Cd Drive                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BB>     I have an Toshiba XM-3100B. It has the same access and
BB> transfer speeds that you quote, but lacks the newest ROM. Is this
BB> drive worth upgrading to the new ROM? (I assume it makes it XA
BB> rated?) About what did it run to have yours upgraded? Is the 64K
BB> buffer also an upgrade?

The 64k buffer is standard.  Contact Toshiba CDROM Tech Spt at:

714-455-0407 to find out about your drive upgradability.


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 1458
  To: DON NELSON                               Date: 06/30/93  5:54a
Subj: Re: CD_ROM Drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DN> One question:  Do you have any caddies around you would like to get
DN> rid of for a cheap price??

I have new caddies for $7.00 apiece + shipping.,

205-837-5053


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 1459
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93  6:22a
Subj: CDROM Drives                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Both Models Include:  60 day Warranty, External DIP switches, 50 pin SCSI
  350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM
  installed.  Refurbished.  5.25 - HH Drive. 64k Buffer.

Still have a few left.

205-837-5053 




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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1460
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/28/93  7:53p
Subj: FOR TRADE FOR ROM DRIVE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    I have a few things that I would like to sell and or trade for.
HAVE AND NEED TO SELL OR TRADE.
    1. Logithech Handscanner.
       100-400 dpi.
       32-256 grey scale.
       Great for school projects and faxs.
         need to sell or trade.  Start at $100 OBO.
    2. 2400 baud internal modem.
       Not much can be said about this modem except
       that it worked great for my first modem.  Start at $22 OBO.
    3. Adlib sound card.
       Older card!
       Great for games and sound effects.
       ***not a Sound Blaster***  Start at $20 OBO.
 
WOULD LIKE TO TRADE FOR AND OR BUY.
    1. Mitsumi newer or even older cd-rom, does'nt have to be Mitsumi
       but a good working one at that.
    2. Diamond or Fairenheit excell card.
    3. Sound Blaster Pro?
    4. Possibly IDE HDs.
 
Would like to here from people please leave mail or call me at home
at (206) 762-0429.


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From: MAX HILL                               Number: 1461
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93  8:01p
Subj: DOWNLOADERS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       BIG SKY CD-ROM     <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
          The downloader's ROM      OVER 7000 + files
.................................................................
            ORDER LINE  Voice 1-406-586-8344       > 8:00 A.M.
              ORDER LINE  FAX   1-406-586-3774     > 7:00 P.M.
               * We Pay shipping 2nd day UPS       > MST
                  * MasterCard, VISA, COD company check

PCBoard users will be pleasantly surprised to find that we have
included special tools that will allow them to install BigSky
ROM in just a few minutes -- not hours.
The PCBoard IDX file was created before the Files.BBS and
Descript.ion files were laid down on the ROM.
This software was designed and developed by Martin Productions.
Over 7,000 files using PKWARE, Inc.'s PKZIP (R) 2.04g DeflatX
MAXIMUM compression are on this ROM, including .GIF, .WAV, .ICO,
and .BMP's.  Where there were hundreds of small icon files, we
combined them into downloadable 20K files, so there is no inflated
file count on this ROM (just so you'll buy the product).
All files are True Date Stamped, based on largest file in the
archive; there's no false advertising here.  If you're a SysOp,
we know you care about your users and don't want them thinking
that a file just came out when, in fact, it is a year old.  We
do have older files on our ROM, but if -- and only if -- we
feel it is something useful or interesting.
NO MISSING FILES OR WASTED TIME!
All archive files were scanned with McAfee Associates 5/5/93
SCAN 9.15 V104, which looks for 2,049 different viruses and their
variants.
All archives have a FILE_ID.DIZ to identify them.  If one wasn't
present, we added it.
Almost no data files are on this ROM.  We expect you to find
other sources for collections of data-type ROM's, and you can look
forward to BigSky #2's being almost all unique digitized images
and files.
We've listened to you on FidoNet; we monitor the Echos:  CD-ROM,
CD-ROM sales, VIRUS info, and DIRTY_DOZEN.  We've taken the time
to find and remove any HACK Report Files, illegal commercial
programs, programs that won't run right out of the ZIP file, and
anything else we've heard about.  Special thanks to the creators
of and contributors to the Hack Report.
Also, since there are inevitably problems with file descriptions,
every BigSky ROM purchaser who sends in the registration card
will be given access to PC-Montana's Special File Description
Update Area -- FREE -- to download all new updates as they become
available.
Files listed in DIR files but missing from Disk -- NONE!
Duplicate files found in Disk subdirectories -- NONE!
Duplicate file names across the whole ROM -- NONE!
Files found on Disk but missing from DIR files -- NONE!
Duplicate files found in DIR files -- NONE!
Files.BBS and Directory Tree have been set up for MOST BBS's.
Each subdirectory will have a FILES.BBS detailed description
list for operators of WildCat BBS's to load the file descriptions
quickly from CD-ROM to their hard disk database.
Cost $48.00  We think you'll be happy with this ROM purchase.  We
have checked the stats to see what users want.  This is TRULY the
Downloader's ROM.


 * OLX 2.2 * Clinton orders Typewriters to update Whitehouse! sheesh!
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From: MAX HILL                               Number: 1462
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93  8:02p
Subj: ROM FOR SALE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                      BIG SKY ROM
         ********* THE DOWNLOADERS ROM *********


 7024 Archives, 664,860,429 bytes of downloadable archives,
 repackaged or compressed for the first time including .GIF,
 .WAV, .ICO, and .BMP files.

 All archive files use PKWARE, Inc.'s PKZIP (R) 2.04g MAXIMUM
 compression DeflatX algorithm.  With special recognition to
 Phil Katz for Ver 2 of PkZIP making this possible.

 All archive files were scanned with McAfee Associates 5/5/93
 SCAN 9.15 V104, which looks for 2,049 different viruses and
 their variants.

 All archives have a FILE_ID.DIZ to identify them.  If one wasn't
 present, we added it, AGAIN EVERY ARCHIVE HAS an archive
 description your downloaders are going to love this feature!

 All archives are True Date stamped based on the largest file.

 All archives compared to the lastest HACK Report lists, to remove
 any illegal, commercial or hacked programs on our ROM.  Special
 thanks to the creators of and contributors to the Hack Report.

 No unnessasary files or subdirectorys clutering up this ROM.

 Never before released Windows OuterWare Wallpaper files featuring
 4UP images of the Geothermal Wonders of Yellowstone National Park.

 4DOS Users - All subdirectories and files have FILE DESCRIPTIONS!!


 WildCat BBS Users All Download Directories have FILES.BBS lists!!!

 PCBoard BBS Sysops - Our SETMEUP Program builds your whole
 subdirectory!

 Files listed in DIR files but missing from Disk -- NONE!
 Duplicate files found in Disk subdirectories    -- NONE!
 Files found on Disk but missing from DIR files  -- NONE!
 Duplicate files found in DIR files              -- NONE!
 Duplicate file names across the whole ROM       -- NONE!


 If your a single rom BBS or running a six pack THIS rom will ease
 your apprenhensions about which rom your users will download from.
 38 file areas simply structured so that even the novice user will
 feel comfortable.
 Our stats chose the file areas, and from a cross section of users
 age 15 to 46, both professinal and home users, the concept of the
 downloaders ROM emerged.

                   THE $48.00 ALTERNATIVE

   SALES AND PRODUCT SUPPORT 1-406-586-8344 VOICE
   SALES - FAX 1-406-586-3774  VISA & MASTERCARD welcome
                             C.O.D. COMPANY CHECK  OK
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1463
  To: MIKE PETRO                               Date: 06/30/93  3:52a
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> Wing Commander I complete    $10.00
>>
>> I am interested in this disk. please call me on voice for details on

    Sorry, Mike, that one is long gone.

Eric


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1464
  To: TOM STILES                               Date: 06/30/93  3:57a
Subj: ROMS FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> Still waiting for the Cd you sold me.

Tom,
    I called the BBS number that you left, and left you an e-mail.  I
never recieved an answer, so I sold the Rom to some one else about 5 days
ago.  Sorry.

Eric


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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 1465
  To: HOWARD MALKIEL                           Date: 06/29/93  9:59a
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE OR TRADE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HM>I have three recent CD's for sale or possible trade.

HM>       Asian Ladies

I can offer $25 for this one or trade you one of the For Adults Only
CD's...volume one or two.

Hope to hear from you soon.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1466
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/30/93 11:47a
Subj: REVIEWS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike: 
  
How about sending me Pork-Ware 2 and the "McHenry Collection" for 
review - same deal? 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1467
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/30/93 11:49a
Subj: SCSI DRIVE                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> * SLMR 2.1a * ...Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball...                   
                                                                       
  
P-l-e-a-s-e tell me what the H this tagline is supposed to mean! (Sorry 
to be off topic.) 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1468
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/30/93 11:51a
Subj:  Weekly Specials!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> She has been out of print since April--She is back, she is bette  
 LN> IS BUSTY BABES--Will be back with distribution in July--The new   
                                                                       
  
Can't wait! Presume you still have on ewith my name on it/her? 
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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 1469
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/29/93 12:41p
Subj: Review of "digital dreams               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>   The entirety of this section focuses those aspects of the CD that
BJ>   effect convenience and usability.  Accordingly, it is more
BJ>   subjective than the statistical section.

Subjective or not, it sounded like you were trying very hard to be fair and
honest.  I appreciate your efforts, and I think others do also.

BJ>   The DD authors

You probably meant the "producers"; it might be helpful for these and others
you do in the future to let us know who the producers are. There are those
companies that some of us have decided to avoid, no matter WHAT they produce,
the makers of PIER 2 being only the most recent example.

73,

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * Dr. Jack Kavorkian for White House physician!


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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 1470
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 06/30/93  4:06p
Subj: trade?                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hey peter, it has about 5,000 pages on it... it is a Canon PC-20 ,
it does copies on both sides of the paper. it is in excellent
condition......i would trade you if you paid the shipping......
let me know... and how many megs will that rom read?? is it external or
internal? scsi or port?  sounds like what i can use by your description,
but please let me know of the particulars..
i would use it on my bbs...  you can calll me there or leave a note here
the number is  813-934-3307

thanks
best regards   bubba
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1471
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 06/30/93  5:49p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> Well tell you I offer a Quantum 84 meg SCSI for the NASA set if you
>> still have it.......

    Well, once again, It is gone.  Don't suppose you would be interested
in trading some audio CDs, comics, and cards?  I really am looking for a
SCSI Hard Drive, preferabley a MAXTOR.

Eric


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From: BEN QUON                               Number: 1472
  To: ANDREA HEARN                             Date: 06/27/93  6:27a
Subj: Free CD-ROM Catalogs                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Hi there. I'm new to this echo and as I was browsing the various messages,
I saw a reply asking for a CD-ROM Catalog. Could you please send me one also?
My address is:

Ben Quon
2675 East 29th Avenue
Vancouver, BC, Canada
V5R 1V3

Thanks,
Ben
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From: BEN QUON                               Number: 1473
  To: TODD VIERLING                            Date: 06/27/93  6:27a
Subj: DOS 6's MSCDEX.EXE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Todd Vierling to Shane Snyder <=-

 TV> driver? Remember that MSCDEX comes with DOS 6 and you should not use
 TV> an older one. As far as the ???.SYS driver goes, if you put the correct

 Hi there Todd. Can you help me out with some information here please?

First, I was wondering if the DOS 6.0 MSCDEX.EXE is compatible with DOS 5.0.
I lost my newest copy of MSCDEX in a HD crash and the version I am using
right now can not be loaded high.

Also, my CD-ROM came in a Multimedia Kit from London Drugs. The package came
with a CD-ROM Drive and Sound Blaster Pro from Creative Labs.

Do you know what brand/access time the CD-ROM is?

Thanks,
Ben
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: ANDY PHAM                              Number: 1474
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 06/25/93  1:00p
Subj: Mitsumi Audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >         Thanks for the info - You have me very close to
 > upgrading my SB
 >         to a PRO.
 >                                 /JIM/

It is better if you upgrade your SoundBlaster Classic to a SoundBlaster 16
which is one step beyond the Pro. It has 16-Bit sound and can record up to
44.1KHz Stereo of sound rather than 22.5KHz I think. I know that it can get the
sound quality better.

Andy Pham

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From: ANDY PHAM                              Number: 1475
  To: IAN LEVSTEIN                             Date: 06/25/93  1:14p
Subj: Sony 31A & SBPro                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I'd like to hook up the audio output of my new Sony 31A to my
 > SoundBlaster Pro, but it seems that the audio cable
 > connectors are not compatible.  Any suggestions?

I have an IBM SCSI CD-ROM Drive on my system and they had incompatible
connectors to my SoundBlaster Pro too. What I did was to strip the wires and do
the connections manually. Its not easy but its worth a shot. I took me about a
half an hour to do the job and it worked. On the standard connector which is on
the sound blaster, there are 2 GND's and 1 LEFT and 1 RIGHT connector. I can't
remember what the exact pin-outs of the connector assignments but that should
be enough.

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From: ANDY PHAM                              Number: 1476
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/25/93  2:31p
Subj: Strip Poker CD-ROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anybody know where I could get a copy of the Strip Poker CD-ROM (VGA)?
I've seen it before and has like movie animations. If you know where, how, and
the price of it, please reply. Thanks.

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From: DON RIEB                               Number: 1477
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/29/93 10:02a
Subj: Re: NEC and Hitachi                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SP>    Does anyone know if you can run two different kinds of CD-ROM drives
SP>   on the same system?I would like to have a NEC or other fast speed drive
SP>   for personal use and a Hitachi or other slower drive for a BBS.

Sure can.  In the config.sys you load the driver for each of the drives, just
make shure that the drive designator (MSCD001, MSCD002 exc.) or (CDROM01) is
different becouse you only have to load MSCDEX.EXE once in your autoexec.bat
and have the drive designators that coraspond to the ones in your config.sys
on the command line.  like C:\CDROM\MSCDEX  /D:CDROM01 /D:CDROM02 /DCDROM03
 /DMSCD01 /E /V /S /M:64  .

This is the way I have mine and in fact I have 1 Magnovox, 1 external Hitachi,
4 Internal Hitachi's, and a 6 Pioneer changer all on one system.  Thats
3 propriatory cards and 1 SCSI card to controll them.

Just to let you know you should have to troulbe with just 2.  One thing
to watch for is make shure your card addresses are not the same, also
check IRQ's and DMA channels (If your cards use them).  

** Don **

P.S. Call 708-724-2427 for the new CDROMCAT.ZIP (CDROM Catalog).  Either log
on as new or use the guest logon of CD ROM for the name and password and enter
all 0's for age or phone number security check.

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From: ERNIE TRUFFA                           Number: 1478
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93 12:42a
Subj: CD ROM FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For Sale Toolworks Encyclopedia CD ROM....................$60.00
Leave Mail If Interested
                         Ernie Truffa


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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 1479
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93  6:35p
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have some CD-ROM discs for sale or trade.  All are in great condition.  If
interested give me a call at (614) 363-8201 or leave a message here.

The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia-DOS (Video, Sound, Text)
VGA Spectrum- GIFs, FLIs, Demos, Games
1992 Guinness Disc of Records: Multimedia Version (Windows or DOS)
Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective I (Video Mystery)
The Original Shareware 1992 (8,000 Shareware Programs)
Phoenix 2.0 (Shareware)
Nautilus Introduction
Software Jukebox- LINKS Golf, Faces...Tris III, Jetfighter, Berenstein Bears   
               Fun With Colors, 50 Trial versions of programs
Front Page News- (Thousands Of News Articles)
Sample This!!- demo CD
CD-ROM Sampler- Demo CD

I would also be willing to sell my slightly used:
Mitsumi Drive: 350ms seek time
               150kb/sec data transfer
               interface card
               All Manuals and wires
Sound Blaster Pro: Card, Software, Midi adapter and Manuals
2400 baud Modem

Make any offers- I'm pretty reasonable!!  If interested, call (614) 363-8201 or
leave a message here.  Thanks.

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1480
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 06/30/93  7:54p
Subj: Adult cd price$                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TS> > regarding Nix Pix I, your reply seemed somewhat short. <g>..
 LN> It's federally illegal, and he could run into criminal charges as a
  > distributor.....Not *ONE* reputable dealer will carry this
 DK> Why is that?  Are there images on the disk that are that bad?

Nope, they are THAT good! [if you like REALLY weird stuff}:->

 * MKRead v1.01 * Oregon, where men are men and sheep are nervous.


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1481
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/01/93  2:26a
Subj: RED HOT CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $39.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - MONSTER MEDIA '93'   PRICE - $29.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $30.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - WINBOX - GAMEWARE - CD POWERBOX    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $15. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $55. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
                     24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: ROBBIE WILKES                          Number: 1482
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/30/93  3:08p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS: $29!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>O               DIGITAL DREAMS IS HERE . . . . ONLY $29.00!               O
MS>              * All original scans from the McHenry BBS

Hey Mike,

I just wanted to confirm... this is Digital Dreams - The McHenry
Collection, and not the regular Digital Dreams (which I'm already
getting), right?

If so, am gonna try to pick up a CD from you.

Let me know.

Robbie Wilkes
(912) 471-8381 after 6:00pm EST


... CP [IR] * Coming Soon...  Highlander III:  The Apology!


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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 1483
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 06/29/93 11:16a
Subj: Re: Cdrom Titles 4 Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 06-27-93 Mark Johnsen wrote to Paul Swider... 
 
 MJ> Paul, echo back and confirm you still have the above, and I'll send a

 MJ> MO for 
 
 Sorry Mark it was sold yesterday. Thanks. 
 
>Paul< 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50  "Luck often wins out over science and technology!" 

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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1484
  To: BRIAN WHEATLEY                           Date: 06/30/93 10:43p
Subj: Re: .TXT files                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> Sorry, I didn't receieve the mail, I am VERY interested, I havent found
>> very many .TXT files, any where, But I need my money, for my Trip to
>> Ontario, etc. But I have some IBM Part's. Like 286/12mhz MotherBoard, VGA
>> Card, Monochrome Graphics Card, 720k drives, Monochrome Monitor, Cga
>> Color Monitor, etc.

    Well, about the only hardware I am looking for now is SCSI hard
drives.  Don't suppose you have any of those?

Eric


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1485
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 06/30/93 10:46p
Subj: NASA roms                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> Just curious, where did you get the NASA image ROMS. I know you have
>> recieved a couple of offers for them, so I probably won't be able to get
>> yours, but I am interested in them. I have one that I got from a friend,
>> and have not been able to get anymore. Any help you can give me will be
>> greatly appreciated.  --Jerry--

    I got them from the NASA info site on INTERNET.  It's one of those
deals where you login, fill out an order form, and they call you.  Do you
have an internet account?

Eric


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1486
  To: ANDY YEE                                 Date: 06/29/93  8:32a
Subj: CD-Rom Special                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AY>still have any left??? if you do save me one and leave me a message so I can

  >send away the money order right away 
 
You bet!  Are you wanting the Software Vault 2 and Digital Dreams?  If 
so, it is $55 plus $4 shipping (U.S.).  Are you over 21 years old?  Let 
me know if you have any questions.  Thanks for your interest! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice    Rt 3 Box 794-B 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Ashford, AL 36312 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1487
  To: BILL STRANGE                             Date: 06/29/93  8:36a
Subj: CD-Rom Prices                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BS>Thanks Jim for the catalog. I had it sitting on my wrkbench when I 
  >got back from vacation. Thats the fastest response I think I have 
  >ever gotten from the echos. I will be getting an order from you 
  >asap. And i'm sending a local distributor your way as well... 
 
Thanks, Bill.  We try to get all mailings out on a daily basis.  First 
impressions are really important in such a competitive business. <G>  I 
appreciate the referral!  Btw, we now accept Visa & Mastercard. 
 
                                                Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1488
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/29/93  9:15a
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>  First, my thanks to Jim Lambert of "Computer Works" in Ashford, AL 
  >  for sending me an "on approval" copy of the new adult CD "Digital 
  >  Dreams" for this review. 
 
Thanks for the excellent review, Bob.  This goes to show that sometimes 
the stats and the true quality of a product can head in two totally 
different directions.  I agree with your review completely. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 1489
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/30/93  4:17a
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <25 Jun 93  17:50:12>, Mike Shannon (1:3407/101) writes:

 >Digital Dreams is a very nice adult CD with all original scans, and no
 >BBS ads.  Has FILES.BBS for online use, with around 1700 .GIFs, and 300
 >animation files.  This is a hot seller, and well worth the 29 bucks if
 >you ask me.  Total with shipping is $33.  Give me a call if you need
 >more info, or you can send your order to our address below.
This must be a different Digital Dreams than I have, who is this one put out 
by? Is this one the McHenry collection or the Ero Tek one? 

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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 1490
  To: SCOTT HUNSINGER                          Date: 06/29/93  1:47a
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SH> CD's for sale: 
SH> Wing Commander II Deluxe Edition 
 
I am interested in this and maybe Sherlock, how much? 
 
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 1491
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/29/93 11:21a
Subj: Which Is Best?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

|EP> That's about all I can think of.....maybe someone can add (or delete) f|
DC> +---------------------------------------------------------------------
DC> -------+All I can add is.....the caddyless drives, at least Mitsumi, 
DC> don'thave the problem of sucking in dirt and dust that some of the 
DC> caddytype drives have.

The caddyless drives are about 1000 times easier to clean.
If you are a smoker, plan on cleaning your cd's as well as the drives on a
regular basis. I clean mine twice a month..
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From: PAT RILEY                              Number: 1492
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 06/29/93  2:44a
Subj: Digital dreams for sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

JJ>Digital Dreams for sale
JJ>NOT the Mchenry version, this is the ERO TEK version.
JJ>anyway, it is an excellent adult CD disk...perfect condition.
JJ>25.00 OBO includes shipping!


Ok Jeff, here's my best offer.....
I'll take this one from you if you'll ship it COD for 25.00 even.
If it's a deal, send it to me at:
258 W Union
Edwardsville, Illinois 62025
(Post Office will do a COD cheaper than UPS)

Thanks.
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 1493
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 06/30/93  2:22p
Subj: Re: Adult cd price$                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <06-28-93 08:51> Dave Kalwishky wrote:

DK>> TS>> regarding Nix Pix I, your reply seemed somewhat short. <g>..

DK>> Why is that?  Are there images on the disk that are that bad?

Several directories--"Bad" according to Federal guidelines, gross violation of
the Federal Obscenity laws (Beastiality etc)--Hate to go before a grand jury,
and ask them if they feel the same way the Gov't feels--Not all XXX is taboo,
just select areas are documented/known to be a violation of law, this disc has
directories devoted to the "Taboo", and it makes it intentional vs accidental
inclusion of a few random scans. The courts will hold the distributor liable as
well, and can charge them with distribution of Federally illegal
material.....that's why is is important that distribs know the products they
carry--Which brings me back to the Top 10 distribs in the US, none of them will
get near this disc for whatever reason for just this reason. T'aint worth
losing an entire biz because of a disc created by a publisher who is willing to
take a chance...1991 nobody worried, in 1993 the disc has no demand by
distribution.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 1494
  To: DAVID STULTS                             Date: 06/29/93  8:51p
Subj: CD-ROM, discs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >     Nightowl 8.0 ..................................... $ 15
  >     Phoenix-CD (also shareware) ...................... $ 10

If you still have these titles, let me know where to send a MO.  Also the 
approximate shipping amount for Chattanooga, TN.
                                                 Thanks, 
                                                     Ron


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1495
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93  9:56p
Subj: Best Nightowl 9 Prices                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        **  PCJ Computing is ANNOUNCING NIGHTOWL VERSION 9 !! **
 
                Our stock of Nightowl 9 Shareware CDs is
                on it's way.  We should have them in stock
                     by July 2.  Order yours today.
                    676 Meg - 100% 1993 - 4,955 Files
                    (59 Assorted Categories of Files)
                      Suggested Retail Price - $49
                          Our Price - Just $38
                      CALL 1-800-547-7817 to Order.
         We will meet or beat any other special offers or pricing!

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1496
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93 11:24p
Subj: Some Great CDROM Prices                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

************** PCJ Computing - Partial CDROM List - 6/30 ***************
 
   ShareWare (** BBS Ready)          Graphics/Sound/Educational (cont.)
AB20 Amiga CD-Rom............15.95  Dinosaur Adventure MPC.........33.95
America's Premier 1993 Sharw.24.95  Education Master or Business...19.95
C Users Group Library........29.50  Encyclopedia of Clip Art.......26.95
California Collection........16.95  Encyclopedia of Sound..........14.50
CD Powerbox.............**...22.95  Fonts #1.......................27.95
Fred Fish On-Line(Amiga)**...49.95  Fontmaster #1-18.95....or #2...27.95
Garbo MSDOS/MAC Shareware....14.95  Gifs Galore....................16.45
Gigabyte Gold...........**...24.95  Jets & Props...................38.95
Ham Radio (Shareware)........14.50  Lovely Ladies or Mother Earth..27.95
Libris Britannica.......**...52.95  Midi Music Shop................29.95
Lion Share..............**...26.95  Mother of All Clipart (23000)..23.95
Magnum Sight & Sound....**...28.95  Publish It v2.0 (with Manual)..32.95
Megarom 1 or SDN 1......**...19.95  Publique or Fresh Arte.........35.95
Megarom 2...............**...23 95  Publishers Dream Disc..........37.95
Monster Disc (2 Cds-92).**...39.95  Publishers Paradise............32.95
Nightowl Bus. Applications...22.95  Readers Library (2000 works)...28.95
NightOwl 5.0............**...17.95  Reference Library..............27.45
Nightowl 7.0............**...24.95  Sci-Fi (Pics/Sound/Files).**...27.95
Nightowl 8.0............**...26.95  Space Adventure................32.95
Nightowl 9.0............**...37.95  So Much Screenware (Gifs).**...27.95
Nightowl 8.0/9.0........**...67.95  Sound Works (Software).........18.95
Original Shareware 1992.**...16.95  Swimwear & More (SVGA).........28.95
OS/2 Archives (Hobbes).......14.95  Swimwear 1993.............**...28.95
PC Sig #9...............**...17.95  Talking Schoolhouse............36.45
PC Sig #10..............**...22.95  Talking Jungle or Classc.Tale..36.45
PC Sig #11..............**...24.95  Time Almanac 1990-17.95...1991-26.95
PC Sig #12..............**...24.95  VGA Spectrum ..#1-16.95.....#2-24.95
Phoenix v3.0............**...18.95  Wild Places or World View......23.95
Pier Shareware #1.......**...27.95  Women of Venus (Swimsuits).....27.95
Powerpak Gold...........**...22.95  Aircraft Encyclopedia..........35.95
SCI-FI (Pics,Sound).....**...27.95  Amer.Bus.Fone Book #1..$17 #2..27.95
Shareware 1993..........**...19.95  Animals SD Zoo (MPC or DOS)....26.95
ShareWare Overload...........14.50  Audobon Mammals or Birds.......26.95
Shareware Studio #1.....**...20.95  Bible Library (9 Bibles+)......28.95
Shareware Studio #2(NEW)**...23.95  Bibles & Religion..............14.50
Shareware Tiger.........**...24.95  Brit. Family Choice or Select..32.95
Sharew Extravaganza(4 cds)**.42.95  CD Cad v3.7 with manual........31.95
Simtel 20 (Gov't Sharw).**...14.95  Cinnemania.....................57.95
Software Vault #1.......**...22.95  Classic Collection (4 Pak).....53.95
Software Vault #2.(NEW).**...23.95  College Handbook (1992)........18.95
So Much Shareware #1....**...21.95  Complete Bookshop..............14.50
SO Much Shareware #2....**...28.95  Compton's Interactive Encylop..99.95
Sound Sensations.............14.50  Compton's MM Encyclopedia......68.95
Source Code (Unix/Dos).......19.45  Composer Quest.................37.95
Technotools (Programmers)....14.50  Consumer Information Disc......38.95
Top 2000 Shareware...........24.95  Crossword Cracker..............24.45
Windows 1993 or Winbox..**...27.45  Desert Storm...................34.95
Windows - CICA..........**...14.95  Dictionaries & Languages.......14.50
Windoware....................14.50  Elec. Home Libr.(250 books)....36.95
Window Master................19.45  Family Doctor..................29.45
X11R5/GNU CDRom..............24.95  Global Explorer (Delorme)......94.95
       Games/Educational            Great Cities of World 1 or 2...24.95
7th Guest....................52.95  Great Wonders of the World.....42.95
Adventures of Willy Beamish..28.95  Greatest Books Collection......44.95
Arthur's Teacher Trouble.....28.95  Grolier's Encyl. w/Ref Libr...229.95
Battlechess MPC..............29.95  Grolier Ill. Encyl. v2 (STW)...38.95
BattleChess Enhanced.........34.95  Grolier Ill. Encyl. v5 MPC.....47.95
Beauty & the Beast(Windows)..29.95  Guiness Disc of Records (92)...26.95
Carmen San Diego World Dlx...28.50  Inter. Business/Economic Atlas.24.45
Cd Game Pack v.1-19.95...v.2-26.95  Jazz, a MM history.............69.95
ChessMaster 3000 MPC.........26.45  Languages of the World.........47.95
Crossword Cracker............23.95  Library of the Future 1........52.95
DeathStar Arcade Battles.....14.50  MacMillan Dict for Children....38.95
Games 1993..............**...24.50  Magazine Rack..................23.95
GameMaster (Over 500 Games)..19.45  Mayo Clinic....................33.95
Golden Immortal..............24.95  Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing....27.95
Guy Spy......................46.95  Monarch Notes (Complete set)...63.95
 
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1497
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93 11:24p
Subj: Some GREAT CDROM Prices                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

******* PCJ Computing - Partial CDROM List - 6/30 - Continued **********
 
House of Games...............26.95  Nat. Geographic MPC Mammals....26.95
Kings Quest 5................24.95  National MM Parks Guide........27.95
Just Grandma & Me............41.95  North American Fax Book........48.95
Jones in the Fast Lane.......23.45  Our Solar System(Photos,Data)..14.50
Loom.........................24.95  P.C. Medic (Fix your PC).......32.95
Manhole......................36.95  Play w/Lang-Englh/Frenc/Span...49.95
Mixed Up Mother Goose........23.95  Pharmicist Guide to Drugs......27.95
Monkey Island (Secrets of)...24.95  Prophone Business 1993.........37.95
North American Indians.......49.95  Prophone(3 Set)-49.95..(7 Set)124.95
PC Gameroom..................28.45  Return to the Moon.............37.95
PC Sig Games.................23.95  Roger Ebert Movie Companion....42.95
Peter & the Wolf (Windows)...26.45  Sports Best on CDRom...........27.95
Secret Weapons of LuftWaffe..25.95  Street Atlas USA (Windows).....87.95
Sherlock or Shakespeare......16.95  Tempra Access Photo CD Softw...31.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1..24.95  TimeTable of Hist./Sci or Art..25.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2..54.95  Too Many TypeFonts (Laser).....14.50
SoundWav.....................28.95  ToolWorks Reference Library....26.95
Space Quest IV...............24.95  Total Baseball Encyclopedia....26.95
Spirit of Excalibur..........38.45  U.S. Atlas / Automap...........28.95
Stellar 7....................24.95  U.S. History...................33.95
StoryTime 1 or 2.............24.95  Visions of Saturn..............24.95
Trump Castle-5 casino games..28.95  World Atlas or US/World Atls...28.95
Ultima I - VI................35.95  World Atlas or US Atlas MPC....28.95
Wing Commander/Secret Missn..34.50  World Fact Book (CIA)..........24.95
Wing Commander/Ultima 6......24.95  World Traveler.................14.50
Wing Commander 2 Deluxe......57.95  World of Flight or Trains......33.95
Wing Commander 2/UUnderWrld..59.95  World Tour (CIA)...............23.95
Wrath of the Demon...........37.95
   Graphics/Sound/Educational      *************************************
Aesops Fables................29.95 ** We meet all legit / noncloseout **
Barney Bear-School or Space..21.95 ** prices in this echo. No hidden  **
Clip Art Galore...........**.28.95 ** charges for credit cards. Call  **
Clip Art Goliath (Pcx, Tif)..14.50 **for Adult Titles. Ship Worldwide **
Clip Art Heaven..............28.95 *************************************
Colossal Cookbook............14.50   Voice (24 Hours)    - 615-339-0235
Danger Hot Stuff 1...........18.95   Inquiries/Questions - 615-339-0235
Danger Hot Stuff 2...........24.95   When Ready to Order - 800-547-7817
Desktop Bookshop.............27.95   FaxBack (24 Hours)  - 615-339-0235
         Miscellaneous               Fax (24 Hours)      - 615-479-1047
Jokes & Pranks...............17.95   BBS (14400)         - 615-479-1047
1001 Utilities...............17.95   BBS (HST)           - 615-478-2890
Business Assistant...........17.95            CDROM Drives
Game Arena...................17.95  Pioneer 600A (Bare).........819.00
Learning Adventure...........17.95  Pioneer 600A with Kit.......849.00
Pentaminoes..................34.95  Pioneer 604X (Bare)........1197.00
QRZ Ham Radio................24.95  Pioneer 604X with Kit......1297.00
Giga Games...................28.95  Mitsumi 350ms Int w/Int. Kit - 195
SpaceQuest4/Kings Quest......34.95  Toshiba 3401 Int. (Bare)....455.00
CD Caddies....................4.95  Toshiba 3401 Ext. (Bare)....550.00

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1498
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/30/93 11:26p
Subj: Cd rom burners                          Refer: NONE
Read: 07/03/93  7:16a                       Private: No 

 TH>               ^^^^^
 TH> That's a heck of a buy... This time last year a one-off machine with
 TH> software cost about 8 grand.
 
It tiz....it tiz.....the price has been dropping steadily over the last 6
months for some reason.

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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 1499
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/01/93  7:23a
Subj: Street Atlas USA                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To anyone out there.  I am looking for a used copy of Street Atlas USA.
If someone out there wants to get rid of their copy.  Drop me a line on
this echo.  Thanks.

Al James

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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 1500
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/29/93  9:40a
Subj: Pork-Ware 1 Review                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Not knowing anything about the subject matter (well, very little <g>),
I'd say those were two really excellent reviews. Now...all I need is to
upgrade my system...

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From: DON NELSON                             Number: 1501
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/02/93  1:43a
Subj: CD_ROM Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MK> I have new caddies for $7.00 apiece + shipping.,

Thanks, I'll have to pass.  I figured out I can get then cheaply when I order
CD's.

Thanks,

.dn 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1502
  To: SCOTT ELMORE                             Date: 07/02/93  6:41a
Subj:  Adult Cd Price$                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SE>    What is on it that makes it illegal?                           
                                                                       
  
There's entire directory devoted to beastiality - sex with animals. 
You'll sometimes here it referred to by the euphemism "furry sex".  In 
spite of all the laws against pornography of all kinds, this and "kiddy 
porn" (sex with persons under the legal age of consent) are what draw 
most of the attention. One is well-advised to stay clear of both topics. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1503
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 07/02/93  6:45a
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JL> Thanks for the excellent review, Bob.  This goes to show that so  
                                                                       
  
I appreciate your support, Jim.  You should have the disk back by now - 
it went out USPS priority mail earlier this week.  Perhaps we can do it 
again sometime. Cheers! 
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From: VERNON MELTON                          Number: 1504
  To: JIM HUSBAND                              Date: 07/01/93 12:41p
Subj: Re: FOR TRADE - MAGAZINEI               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                -=> Quoting Jim Husband to Vernon Melton <=-

 JH> I'm really not interested in the Sony Language Disk. Since
Rats.....still can't unload this thing.
Jim,
    I don't have any other CD-ROM's I want to trade.  Perhaps cash?  What
would have to have for the CD?
Later,
      Vernon Melton
 
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From: TODD VIERLING                          Number: 1505
  To: BEN QUON                                 Date: 07/02/93 11:14a
Subj: Re: DOS 6's MSCDEX.EXE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 27-Jun-93, Ben Quon (1:153/7060) contemplated DOS 6's MSCDEX.EXE
 and said the following to Todd Vierling:

 BQ>  -=> Quoting Todd Vierling to Shane Snyder <=-

 TV>> driver? Remember that MSCDEX comes with DOS 6 and you should not use
 TV>> an older one. As far as the ???.SYS driver goes, if you put the
 TV>> correct

 BQ>  Hi there Todd. Can you help me out with some information here please?

 BQ> First, I was wondering if the DOS 6.0 MSCDEX.EXE is compatible with
 BQ> DOS 5.0. I lost my newest copy of MSCDEX in a HD crash and the version
 BQ> I am using right now can not be loaded high.

I don't think it is. Why not just upgrade to 6.0 - just DON'T use DblSpace!

 BQ> Also, my CD-ROM came in a Multimedia Kit from London Drugs. The
 BQ> package came with a CD-ROM Drive and Sound Blaster Pro from Creative
 BQ> Labs.

 BQ> Do you know what brand/access time the CD-ROM is?

Nope, sorry...

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From: DAVE KALWISHKY                         Number: 1506
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/02/93  8:14a
Subj: Adult cd                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I was interested in purchasing an Adult CD but I have no idea which ones
are good and which aren't.  I suppose that will also depend on a person
taste..  My main interest in in Lingerie, are there an ROMS that contain a
good number of those types of pics?  I have also seen alot of messages
about Digital Dreams and Digital Dreams - The MvHenry Collection, has
anyoine seen BOTH of these and have a favorite?

     -=> Dave <=-     Thu  07-01-1993

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From: TOM STILES                             Number: 1507
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/02/93  3:57p
Subj: ROMS FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What?? I talked to you on the phone and you said you would call me back
to make arrangments to pick it up! Thanks heaps!

Tom
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From: LUC SIENAERT                           Number: 1508
  To: GARY HOFFERMAN                           Date: 06/23/93 10:10a
Subj: Cdrom dealers wanted                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Gary Hofferman wrote in a message to All:

 GH> We are looking for resellers and others who may be

Do you deliver to Europe as well.

Greetings,
           Luc

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From: CHRIS WHATELEY                         Number: 1509
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/28/93  6:30a
Subj: NEC CDR-25                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi,

Can anyone give me some details on the NEC CDR-25 rom drive. I'm looking at
buying a drive in the next three weeks and am not sure which drive to get.

How much do these drives cost?

Cheers,
Chris.

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From: ERICK GROWCOCK                         Number: 1510
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/02/93  4:19a
Subj: Sony CD-Rom for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    I am selling a Sony CDU-7205 Cd-Rom drive. It operates at 240ms and has a
150kb per-second transfer rate. Also, it has its own proprietary interface
card. I am asking $250 for it including all manuals and 5 Cd-Rom titles. I will
also include Cd-Speedway which is chaching software for the Cd-Rom drive.
Anyone interested?

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 1511
  To: DON CAMFIELD                             Date: 07/02/93  8:08a
Subj: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE:                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

10 line limit on ads, please.

Bob Hall
CDROM Echo Moderator.

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 1512
  To: BOB HALL                                 Date: 07/02/93  8:20a
Subj: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE:                  Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93  7:38p                       Private: No 

Ihappens to be best of us..... I apologize a hundred times, I was in te wrong
ECHO when I posted this message.  I have the fear that I am going to do that,
and I finally did........ 

Super sorry.......

Bob Hall.



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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 1513
  To: DON CAMFIELD                             Date: 07/02/93  8:23a
Subj: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE:                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I entered a message to you about the 10 line limit, and I was in the wrong
echo.  I'sorry.

My apologies....

No more entering messages before I've had my coffee..

BOB


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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 1514
  To: GREG MANTER                              Date: 07/02/93  4:01p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Greg Manter to All <=-

 GM> I have some CD-ROM discs for sale or trade.

 GM> The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia-DOS (Video, Sound, Text)
 GM> 1992 Guinness Disc of Records: Multimedia Version (Windows or DOS)
 GM> Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective I (Video Mystery)

Would you take $60 for all of the above ??  Please let me know....thanks !!
 
... Voice: 919-870-6926 or Prodigy: CJBM15A
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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 1515
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 07/01/93 11:19a
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Received Cream of the Crop today via COD.
What a disc !  All the time that you put into it really paid off, because it
really shows ! There are files on this disk that other are sysops don't have.
The RA BBS set up was totally painless, and worked perfectly. Thanks so much -
this was a pleasure !

Vikki

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From: TAMI THOMPSON                          Number: 1516
  To: PAUL SWIDER                              Date: 07/03/93  9:43a
Subj: More ROM titles 4 sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PS> $20.00          Media Clips DEEP VOYAGE. An audio-
 PS> visual underwater adv. trip. 
Hi! I've sent NetMail to you also, but not everyone can receive it... I'm
interested in the above disk: this is not a game, correct?  is a soundcard
absolutely essential? how much memory is required? (sorry, I'm pretty CDROM
illiterate at this point in time!). Thanks for your time!   -Tami

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From: JEFF NEWMAN                            Number: 1517
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/02/93 10:12p
Subj: happy fun ball                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> * SLMR 2.1a * ...Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball...
 BJ> P-l-e-a-s-e tell me what the H this tagline is supposed to mean! (Sorry
 BJ> to be off topic.)

 Saturday Night Live "commercial"  that starts off as an elaborate drawnout
 pitch for what appears to be an ordinary plastic spongy ball. Later it
 turns out that Happy Fun Ball is a radioactive object that fell out of
 the sky and you will not sue the distributers of this product if  
 your hair falls out, genetic problems or etc.

 Back on topic great objective reviews of digital and porkies....

-Jeff NOPCCCC

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From: ERYN BAY                               Number: 1518
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  6:38p
Subj: Office 3.0                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What can I get in trade for Microsoft Office 3.0?



... Diplomacy is saying "nice doggy" until you find a rock.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1519
  To: STEVE KISER                              Date: 07/03/93  7:44a
Subj: Pork-Ware 1 Review                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SK> I'd say those were two really excellent reviews. Now...all I nee  
                                                                       
  
Thanks! I appreciate you're taking the time to reply. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1520
  To: JEFF NEWMAN                              Date: 07/03/93  7:45a
Subj:   problem with a cd                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JN> Bob, what drive do you have? will it read nix pix 1? looking for  
                                                                       
  
My CD drive is a 2-1/2 year old Sony 7205; came bundled with the old 
"Laser Library". It's an external drive equivalent to a 535 I think. 
It's not fast (about 153 Kb/sec according to a benchmark pgm) but it's 
a caddy-style style drive and it's been able to read absolutely 
everything I've ever put in it - including HP-1 (which I no longer 
have). 
  
Like computers themselves, CD drive technology seems to be really 
heating up - probably due to the soaring demand within the industry in 
general.  I'll probably wait another 6-12 months and then see what's 
shaken out before replacing the 7205 (unless it dies before then which I 
doubt). Cheers! 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1521
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 07/03/93  8:18a
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JM> know if anybody has had any problems ordering from them. I know   
 JM> prices are hard to beat, but I sort of got burnt once and would   
 JM> it to happen again.                                               
                                                                       
  
Personally, I've never had *any* problems with Starvector. I expect to 
do add'l business with them in the future. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1522
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/03/93  7:51a
Subj:   Weekly Specials!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> have a commercial package on the market called SHOWOFF! (tm)--Th  
 LN> package will put up tp 1,024 thumbnail images on the screen, all  
                                                                       
  
I'll be especially interested in seeing this! My *FAV* viewer is GDS 
which has many of the same features.  Also, 35% *NEW* GIFs really has my 
interest as well.  However, something must've changed (or my memory's 
worse than I thought!) Didn't you say a while back that the re-issue of 
BB was a "dead" issue?  I was thinking that your next release was going 
to be a "hard R" disk i.e. no penetrations, etc.  Whatever, I'll be glad 
to look over *anything* that comes out of FLD. Ciao! 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1523
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/01/93  8:38a
Subj: CD-Roms For Sale!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Computer Works is now accepting Visa & Mastercard for CD-Rom orders. 
You can get the latest list of titles and prices by giving us a call, or 
by downloading CATALOG.ZIP from our BBS.  This file also includes 
descriptions of each CD-Rom as they become available. 
 
                                                      Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 1524
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 07/03/93  9:39a
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

he is an arrogant jerk with prices above 20% of mmost others....
check around  first.................bubba
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 1525
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 07/03/93  9:41a
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

call groupware.  1-206-472-1400             best prices i have seen
he has internal mitsumi's   complete for $175.bux
and the disks that others are charging for is about 20% less
bubba
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1526
  To: TOM STILES                               Date: 07/03/93 10:39a
Subj: ROMS FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> What?? I talked to you on the phone and you said you would call me back
>> to make arrangments to pick it up! Thanks heaps!

    We talked on the phone?  Sorry for the confusion, but I got over 50
calls that week from the 3 ads that I posted, dozens of messages and
netmails, and tons of checks in the mail.  I was totally unprepared, and
you must have gotten lost in the process.  I'll catch you next time.

Eric


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From: KEITH SHEEHAN                          Number: 1527
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 07/02/93 12:34a
Subj: CD WINBOX!                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I've read from a vendor that you are currently working on an OS/2 2.0/2.1
CD-ROM. Is there anyway I can be notified when this CD will be available. I am
looking for a good CD rom with 2.0 & 2.1 specific programs. Thanx.


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From: KEVIN MARTIN                           Number: 1528
  To: CLINT SAVAGE                             Date: 07/03/93  6:12p
Subj: I need some info.                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Clint,
I sent netmail but haven't heard back, thus this echo message.  I received
a check from you, which I will hold until I hear from you.  I believe it
was for Bookshelf, but your letter was confusing and I'm not sure if you
wanted the Dos or Win version.  Send me netmail if possible or call me
at 214-680-9060.
 
Regards,
Kevin
 
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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1529
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/02/93  7:44p
Subj: scsi controller needed                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I just got a great deal on a Toshiba xm 3301 b internal but have no
docs, manuals ... can someone out there help me with the type of
controler I would need to get this critter running.  Can I use a Pro
Audio 16 with Toshiba drives or a SB pro????
    I really would like to get this thing going and would like some
info and deffinity neeeeeeeed a card of some sort will talk price or
trade with a person who can help honestly and not take me to the
cleaners.


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1530
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 07/02/93  8:32p
Subj: Cd drives, software, &c.                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Carlos!

Thursday July 01 1993, Carlos Benitz writes to Patrick Rosenheim:

 TH>> YOUR LINE LENGTH IS TOO LONG.

 CB> It's more likely that you are not placing hard carriage returns at the end
 CB> of each lines (or your editor, etc. is taking them out).

I'm going to have to side with Tim on this one.  The original posts included
lines that were too long for MOST readers.  ;-(  My ads are all less than 78
characters wide to avoid such problems.


... MORALITY cannot be defined by individual choice.

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 1531
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/03/93 12:01a
Subj: 7th Guest $50                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

7th Guest Complete Package $50 plus shipping. Available thru
 
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX 

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 1532
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/03/93 12:03a
Subj: Credit Cards                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We are now accepting AMERICAN EXPRESS and DISCOVER also. Plus toll free lines
are more efficient and we will happy to help you with all your CD-ROM software
and hardware needs.
 
VOICE TOLL 1-800-373-0628
FAX TOLL   1-800-277-5179
 
GroupWare 

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 1533
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/02/93  5:12p
Subj: NEC and Hitachi                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CK>Hey dude! I was wondering if you could tell me if it is possible to run 2 or

  >MITSUMI's off of one card... I want to put in another node for my BBS... but

  >with 3 friggn' slots taken up by Mitsumi cards... I have no space. Any help 
 
 No.. 1 Mitsumi Per card. :(    If for bbs use, I'd suggest buying some 
$130 Hitachi drives from Terry Blount on this echo.  They're slow, but 
they get the job done for bbs usage and you can run 4 per card. 
 
        ...tim klan 
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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 1534
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/03/93  7:02a
Subj: FREE CD!!                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>----- NO PURCHASE NECESSARY ------- GREAT COMPANION FOR NIGHT OWL 8! ----- 
 
 Unfortunately, it's not that great a companion for night owl 9 because 
there are over 1000 (out of 5000) filename dups.  Oh well, can't have it 
all, after all the guy from Pier used to work for NightOwl's. 
 
        ...tim klan 
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From: JIM HUSBAND                            Number: 1535
  To: VERNON MELTON                            Date: 07/03/93  7:08a
Subj: FOR TRADE - MAGAZINEI                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

|VM>     I don't have any other CD-ROM's I want to trade.  Perhaps cash?  Wh|
|VM> would have to have for the CD?                                         |
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    Vernon,
    $10. If you're interested, you can send it to me at:

    8326 Forest Hills Blvd.
    Dallas, Texas 75218

    I'll need your address also.

                                                            Jim

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 1536
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/01/93  8:29p
Subj: Re:  Weekly Specials!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <06-30-93 11:51> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>>  LN> IS BUSTY BABES--Will be back with distribution in July--The new

BJ>> Can't wait! Presume you still have on ewith my name on it/her?

I got one with your name on it ! She is about 35% different and is minus the
filmstars, models, and amateur directories--But we added some other directories
to fill the voids.......about 95% of the T.I.T.S. BBS logo infringements were
replaced with the originals or just removed off the disc--

What's neat ? Well we teamed up with a software developement house who have a
commercial package on the market called SHOWOFF! (tm)--This package will put up
tp 1,024 thumbnail images on the screen, allows you to build libraries and save
them, notifies you of possible dupes etc--(I usually put 16 GIFS on the screen
at a time)--It get's better, this image package does all the install work, so
the user does not have to do anything but run 1 file--It has a ZOOM feature so
you can pick the image you want from a collection on the screen, and keep
ZOOMING until you have their eyeball only on the monitor--Great tool when you
want to ENLARGE your favorite part of a GIF--<snicker, snicker>...

Even have a directory of Michellea Sorensen, who is active in this echo as well
as CD distribution--Busty was scaled back to 600MB so she doesn't choke on the
older drives like she use too

We still will have our CDMENU on the disc as well, so you have 2 interfaces to
play with--

They will be ready about 13 July in time for Comdex, and I will get my lil'
darlings off--You will like it--The cover was tweaked for the better also !
The fonts are filled with  fire special effects--

All around she is solid now--She took 13 lawsuits, and about ruined us, but
she's back and with the 3100 pre-sales, she has saved the company--Looks like
the 5,000 will sell out the first week she is back--Can't get over the
International demand, that's where they all are going it seems.

So Bob, I am pleased to be able to give you a happy ending to this 90 day
nightmare, that about nailed me. Now it's time to get al the other projects
rolling.......

Mega Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 1537
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/02/93  4:44p
Subj: Toshiba CDROM Drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Both Models Include:  60 day Warranty, External DIP switches, 50 pin SCSI
  350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM
  installed.  Refurbished.  5.25 - HH Drive. 64k Buffer.

Still have a few left.

205-837-5053 




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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 1538
  To: LOYD CRAFT                               Date: 07/01/93  6:37a
Subj: HELP... PLEASE!!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I doubt they ENCODED it.   Microsoft is using PKLITE on the 
 > executables now.

So OK Loyd, I'll check that to.

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From: DONALD WEN                             Number: 1539
  To: CHARLES HELD                             Date: 06/30/93 11:20p
Subj: Re: cd-rom direct                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CH> Having seen the vendor CD-ROM DIRECT recommended by some here, I
 CH> decided to order a Toshiba 3401B internal drive from them.  The
 CH> salesman quoted prices of $419 for a bare drive and $439 for a
 CH> bundle with a SCSI cable and the Software Toolworks US Atlas CD
 CH> (shipping $10 additional).  I opted for the bundle.  My money
 CH> order for $449 went out on April 12, 1993.  I was told when I
 CH> ordered that the drive was in stock.  This was not the case,
 CH> and I called back two weeks later to be told by a receptionist
 CH> who sounded like she didn't even know what she was doing that
 CH> "it would ship tomorrow".  It didn't.  I did receive a call
 CH> from a salesman telling me that they were out of stock on the
 CH> Atlas and offered me an alternative disk.  I stated that I
 CH> would just wait until the Atlas came in and they could ship it
 CH> separately.  Well, in mid-May the drive finally arrived.  No
 CH> Toshiba box. NO CABLE.  NO DRIVERS.  A "manual" that was copied
 CH> and hand-stapled.  No warranty information or registration
 CH> card. I have called repeatedly asking for the cable and have
 CH> been told multiple times (I think by Miss
 CH> Stoned-and-Not-Caring, unfortunately) that the cable was on its
 CH> way.  Then I finally got to speak with someone who sounded like
 CH> she was in charge, but acted like a TOTAL BITCH.  After finally
 CH> acquiescing and agreeing to send me the cable, I came home this
 CH> past Thursday to find a Federal Express notice on my door
 CH> saying that I had a COD package.  The shipper?  CD-ROM DIRECT.
 CH> The COD amount?
 CH>  $439!!!  They sent me another God-Damned Drive!  (And probably
 CH>  without a cable! <G>)  So here I am nearly three months after
 CH>  my initial order without a useable drive.  If anyone from
 CH>  CD-ROM DIRECT monitors this echo, and if you think that you're
 CH>  going to ruin my credit by making me refuse a COD package you
 CH>  can go STRAIGHT TO HELL.  I am calling your Better Business
 CH>  Bureau first thing on Monday morning and pursuing this matter
 CH>  to the fullest extent of the law.

 CH>     DO NOT ORDER FROM CD-ROM DIRECT!!!!!!

This definitely sounds like a mail order going sour.  I started shopping
around for a CD-ROM drive around mid-April, and saw a post by Mohit Goyal
that he bought a 3401B internal for $399+$29 COD.  But I am interested in the
external one, since I got a Compaq Deskpro/I with a low-profile case, and the
only open drive bay is used up by a Teac 5.25" floppy.  I called CD-ROM
Direct and they quoted me a price of $499, which at first sounded cheap
considering local stores sold them for $589 and up back then.  When I asked
if it is original from Toshiba, the salesperson told me it is a Toshiba drive
with a 3rd party case enclosure.  But when I asked further, he couldn't tell
me who made it, what warranty it carried, and I had to ship the whole darn
thing back for service.  Still, I decide to cheap out and placed an order
with them, the total would come up to $528 COD.  A week later, when I called
back for status, I was told the order was cancelled!  And that day was the
last day of the $499 offer, after which the price went up to $544. And I
thought:"BLEAUGH!  I SMELL A ROTTEN EGG!!"  So I quit dealing with them, and
eventually got one in May locally for $530+8.25% CA tax=$573.73.  The drive
is genuine Toshiba 3401E, casing and all, with manufacturing date stamped MAY
1993.  It's a deal for peace of mind.

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 1540
  To: ED FEINS                                 Date: 07/01/93  5:47p
Subj: ProPhone                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Received them today and everything looks fine (without having tried them).  I
hope that you had an enjoyable time while visiting The City.  We had fun in
Boston.  A pleasure doing business with you, sir.

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From: BRIAN WHEATLEY                         Number: 1541
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/02/93 12:36p
Subj: Re: .TXT files                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry, I have no SCSI Hard drives, hmm. How can we do this deal? I guess I'll
have to wqait, you don't mind do you?

Brian.

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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 1542
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/02/93  9:34a
Subj: $TARVECTOR CD $ALE!!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 *
 > 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
Hi Mike

Received the discs on fri.25 not two bad considering they had to clear
customs......Thank you for your prompt and courteous service. Looking forward
to doing buisness with you in the future....."CD-WINBOX is GGGGGGGGGGgreat....


Take care

..Red..

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 1543
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/02/93  4:47p
Subj: RED HOT CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris,

what would be the price on a dual CD ROM drive in an external case.  please
quote me on a true SCSI and the prop-SCSI drives.  also on the new 6-disk
changer if you have one in both formats if it comes in both.  The place where I
work needs one soon and I need a good deal.  Please make sure it comes with all
cables that are needed.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069


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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 1544
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/02/93  8:23p
Subj: $$$                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hey mike. you seem like a real arrogant jerk... you did say that my
check was ok. and as far as your joke......well i dont find threats
funny at all/.!! futurmore i was mearly replying to a message that
someone wrote me. no names were mentioned! do you have a guilt
complex??i think you do, i never mentioned your name ...or your place of
buisness.....oh by the way . i just bought 5 disks and 2 mitsumi drives
from another distributor that has a little buisness ecthics and
politeness......and the prices beat yours by at least 20%%%%%%%%
do you get off on writeing and threatining  handicapped people????
i would make a wager that you are one of those real little guys that has
to prove himself constantly.


by the way star vector overcharges on the disks!!!!!!!!!!

listen everyone you can get them much cheaper for the same disks
elsewhere................and mike if you hassle me any further i will
place a message here daily telling of your high prices!

you say its a tantrum? i dont think so bud...if it were i would have
been on a plane to visit you personaly.....so get of my back.....

whats wrong with my name????? want a discrimination suit slapped on
you???????? next you will be calling me crippled or something...

i made a printout of your harrasment and will keep a record...

learn buisness ethics............bubba.
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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 1545
  To: GREG MANTER                              Date: 07/02/93  6:02p
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 GM> I would also be willing to sell my slightly used:
 GM> Mitsumi Drive: 350ms seek time
 GM>                150kb/sec data transfer
 GM>                interface card
 GM>                All Manuals and wires

Hey! If you want to sell it for $125 drop me a line! I need one for cheap....

CJK

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 1546
  To: ALL CDROM SELLERS                        Date: 07/02/93  6:13p
Subj: I want the following:                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for the following CD's from somebody that sells CD's (ie Mike,
Ismail...)

Busty Babes
Ecstasy
Hot Pics 4

The person to respond with the best price for all 3 gets my order.

CJK

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From: BOB HAY                                Number: 1547
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/03/93  6:38a
Subj: $TARVECTOR CD $ALE!!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Mike!

 MS> CD Winbox...........$23
 MS> Windows 93..........$21
 MS> Windoware...........$10

Could you run you're file duplication program on several of the MS Windows
disks and post the results?

Thanks,

Bob

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1548
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/02/93 11:16p
Subj: SCSI DRIVE                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ> MS> * SLMR 2.1a * ...Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball...

BJ>P-l-e-a-s-e tell me what the H this tagline is supposed to mean! (Sorry
BJ>to be off topic.)

If you're not a regular Saturday Night Live viewer, it probably has little
meaning to you.  It refers to a silly fake advertisement they ran about
a "Happy Fun Ball" for kids to play with, except there was a list of
about 50 things you shouldn't do around it, because it's some sort of
weird, slightly radioactive ball from outer space or something.  One
precaution was not to "taunt" it.

Oh well, guess you had to be there.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1549
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 07/02/93 11:16p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
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MW>This must be a different Digital Dreams than I have, who is this one put out
MW>by? Is this one the McHenry collection or the Ero Tek one?

Mark,

We have the Ero Tek version.  Sorry, no animation files - my mistake.

Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1550
  To: GREG MANTER                              Date: 07/02/93 11:17p
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
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GM>Front Page News- (Thousands Of News Articles)

Greg,

I'll give you $10 for this one.  Lemme know.

.\\ike     509-457-2892.
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1551
  To: ALL CD'ERS!                              Date: 07/02/93 11:17p
Subj: JULY CD PRICES 1 of 2                   Refer: NONE
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 **************************************************************************
 July 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 7/02
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1552
  To: ALL CD'ERS!                              Date: 07/02/93 11:17p
Subj: JULY CD PRICES 2 of 2                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 July 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 7/02
 **************************************************************************
                                   2 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
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 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 1553
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 07/02/93  8:10p
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
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On (01 Jul 93) Jerry Mickish wrote to All...
 JM> I am sort of interested in purchasing some CD-ROMs, and would like to
 JM> know if anybody has had any problems ordering from them. I know their
 JM> prices are hard to beat, but I sort of got burnt once and would not
 JM> like it to happen again. 

  I ordered two CDs and they arrived as promised.  My experience with Mike
  has been very good.  I will buy again from him too.  Hope that answers
  your question and satisfies your concern.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1554
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 06/30/93  8:51p
Subj: NEC CD ROM DRIVE FOR SALE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


I have a NEC cd rom drive for sale with controller card for $225.
 The access time of this drive is 350 ms.  Call 205-824-2552  and
 be sure to mention you are calling about the used NEC.
 
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From: JIM TAYLOR                             Number: 1555
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/02/93 10:32a
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS: $29!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
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BJ> MS>              * All original scans from the McHenry BBS


BJ>Apparently there are *TWO* CDs out with the same name!! The one from ERO
BJ>TEK has no animations. The one from McHenry is apparently called
BJ>"Digital Dreams - The McHenry Collection". I think a lot of folks are
BJ>gonna get confused.

BJ>For those readers that are interested, I reviewed the ERO TEK (TEC?)
BJ>version. I haven't seen "...The McHenry Collection".

Same here, my review was on the ERO TEK version (I couldn't see any info
on it about the McHenry Collection)

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From: JIM TAYLOR                             Number: 1556
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/02/93 10:44a
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams               Refer: NONE
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BJ>   First, very few of the images are even close to being full-screen.
BJ>   Most are considerable smaller, some unacceptably small by my
BJ>   standards.  One of DD's "better" images, all things considered, is
BJ>   DD1_0065.  This image is actually 563x757x256 or about half of a
BJ>   1024x768x256 screen.  While it may be true that the authors'
BJ>   scanner was always set for a high resolution, it's a mistake to
BJ>   think that very many of the images are able take full advantage of
BJ>   it.

BJ>   More importantly, ALMOST ALL of the images have a very distracting
BJ>   "grainy" quality about them.  They're just not sharp and clear.
BJ>   OK...OK... Sometimes the "looking through gauze" effect can be
BJ>   appealing by giving the image a kind of ethereal or "sleepy" look.
BJ>   That's not what I'm talking about here, folks.  Either the source
BJ>   photographs were lousy, or a cheap or maladjusted scanner was used,
BJ>   or somebody didn't know what they were doing, or whatever, but
BJ>   SOMETHING went wrong.  Most every single image is this way -
BJ>   grainy.  It is, in my mind, reminiscent of the image quality (NOT
BJ>   subject matter) on Volcano, only worse.  It makes you keep trying
BJ>   to re-focus your eyes, and that doesn't help.

exactly!!!!  That is what I was tring to say in my review. You hit it on
the nail.


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From: JIM TAYLOR                             Number: 1557
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/02/93  2:59p
Subj: Monster Media CD Review                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Another Taylor Review :-)

"Monster Media '93 No. 1" CD Price $30 to $50 New CD 3 times a year:

  I just loaded up this CD, and it has some nice files on it.  I didn't
the organization (Tree) on the CD. For one thing, the directories were n
sorted. If you do a dir, you get a mix of files, and dir's in your listi
It is simple for a CD producer to run PCtools, or Norton, etc on the
directory to sort it, before coping, and making CD's.  Another complaint
was the directory structure.  All the Windows stuff was in f:\win\whatev
all the BBS files was in f:\bbs\whatever.  Note: some folks may like it
this way. When loading on a BBS, it seams to work better when all the
directories are in the Root directory.  By having sub directories, makes
it more difficult to load on a BBS. One thing that is great, is that eac
directory had a single line listing Areas.bbs included.
  A nice addition, is that the CD came inside a bound colorful book (man
that had a listing of all the files on the CD. The book is very handy, i
you normally print out the files listing, so you have a hard copy. This
way, you have a nice little compact hard copy of the files listing. Ther
are 59 directories with just about any category you can think of.
  The files all look fairly new, and are Zip'ed. I one complaint, is
that the files are Zip'ed with the new Zip. Lots of folks are not using
the new Zip, and this causes problems.  Those that are using the new zip
is because of the extra compression it performs to save hard disk space.
a CD the amount of space doesn't really matter, much.  Another complaint
each Zip file has an Add in it for the CD.  As a sysop, I would rather i
not have an ADD for the CD in each Zip file.

                  (( JT's Rating on a scale of 1 to 5: ))
"production" is the way the disk is put together, organized, including
             documentation, etc.
"price" is if the price is reasonable for what you get.
"Quality" in files, is how new the programs are, how many dupes, and gen
          quality in the files.  In Gifs, it is how the pictures look in
          general, and the quality of the subject matter.
"Overall" Average of the above ratings.

Production: 3
Price:      4
Quality:    5
Overall:    4    on a scale of 1 (BAD!) to 5 (GREAT!)


I will try to keep my reviews constant.  I don't work for a CD company,
and I don't sell CD's (unless I'm trading with someone :-))  I'm just a
sysop with several years experience.

Jim Taylor
1:310/5


I have a Winbox review forth coming, then I'm out of new CD's to review.
If some one wants to send me CD's to review with postage to send the CD
back, I will do more reviews. I don't want to keep the CD's, because if
I did, the reviews would loose credibility. (That is if they have any
credibility now (GRIN))




                                         Jim


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From: RICHARD VONZEL                         Number: 1558
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 07/02/93  7:05p
Subj: Which Is Best?                          Refer: NONE
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Hello Joe!

Tuesday June 29 1993 11:21, Joe Hayes wrote to Darin Celino:

 JH> The caddyless drives are about 1000 times easier to clean.
 JH> If you are a smoker, plan on cleaning your cd's as well as the drives on a
 JH> regular basis. I clean mine twice a month.. * SPITFIRE v3.3 -+- FreeMail
 JH> 1.07b
 JH>  + Origin: The Outer-Limits (618) 439-9629 * HST/V32 * (1:2290/70)

      What do you clean them with, I have 4 old Mitsumi's for my BBS, and  I
have to clean one of them daily it seems.

Thanks,
Richard

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1559
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/03/93  3:07a
Subj: CDROM Systems                           Refer: NONE
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1560
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/03/93  3:07a
Subj: Super Specials                          Refer: NONE
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1561
  To: BRIAN WHEATLEY                           Date: 06/30/93 10:43p
Subj: Re: .TXT files                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> Sorry, I didn't receieve the mail, I am VERY interested, I havent found
>> very many .TXT files, any where, But I need my money, for my Trip to
>> Ontario, etc. But I have some IBM Part's. Like 286/12mhz MotherBoard, VGA
>> Card, Monochrome Graphics Card, 720k drives, Monochrome Monitor, Cga
>> Color Monitor, etc.

    Well, about the only hardware I am looking for now is SCSI hard
drives.  Don't suppose you have any of those?

Eric


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1562
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 06/30/93 10:46p
Subj: NASA roms                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> Just curious, where did you get the NASA image ROMS. I know you have
>> recieved a couple of offers for them, so I probably won't be able to get
>> yours, but I am interested in them. I have one that I got from a friend,
>> and have not been able to get anymore. Any help you can give me will be
>> greatly appreciated.  --Jerry--

    I got them from the NASA info site on INTERNET.  It's one of those
deals where you login, fill out an order form, and they call you.  Do you
have an internet account?

Eric


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1563
  To: ANDY YEE                                 Date: 06/29/93  8:32a
Subj: CD-Rom Special                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AY>still have any left??? if you do save me one and leave me a message so I can

  >send away the money order right away 
 
You bet!  Are you wanting the Software Vault 2 and Digital Dreams?  If 
so, it is $55 plus $4 shipping (U.S.).  Are you over 21 years old?  Let 
me know if you have any questions.  Thanks for your interest! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice    Rt 3 Box 794-B 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Ashford, AL 36312 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1564
  To: BILL STRANGE                             Date: 06/29/93  8:36a
Subj: CD-Rom Prices                           Refer: NONE
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BS>Thanks Jim for the catalog. I had it sitting on my wrkbench when I 
  >got back from vacation. Thats the fastest response I think I have 
  >ever gotten from the echos. I will be getting an order from you 
  >asap. And i'm sending a local distributor your way as well... 
 
Thanks, Bill.  We try to get all mailings out on a daily basis.  First 
impressions are really important in such a competitive business. <G>  I 
appreciate the referral!  Btw, we now accept Visa & Mastercard. 
 
                                                Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1565
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/29/93  9:15a
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>  First, my thanks to Jim Lambert of "Computer Works" in Ashford, AL 
  >  for sending me an "on approval" copy of the new adult CD "Digital 
  >  Dreams" for this review. 
 
Thanks for the excellent review, Bob.  This goes to show that sometimes 
the stats and the true quality of a product can head in two totally 
different directions.  I agree with your review completely. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 1566
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/30/93  4:17a
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <25 Jun 93  17:50:12>, Mike Shannon (1:3407/101) writes:

 >Digital Dreams is a very nice adult CD with all original scans, and no
 >BBS ads.  Has FILES.BBS for online use, with around 1700 .GIFs, and 300
 >animation files.  This is a hot seller, and well worth the 29 bucks if
 >you ask me.  Total with shipping is $33.  Give me a call if you need
 >more info, or you can send your order to our address below.
This must be a different Digital Dreams than I have, who is this one put out 
by? Is this one the McHenry collection or the Ero Tek one? 

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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 1567
  To: SCOTT HUNSINGER                          Date: 06/29/93  1:47a
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SH> CD's for sale: 
SH> Wing Commander II Deluxe Edition 
 
I am interested in this and maybe Sherlock, how much? 
 
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 1568
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/29/93 11:21a
Subj: Which Is Best?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

|EP> That's about all I can think of.....maybe someone can add (or delete) f|
DC> +---------------------------------------------------------------------
DC> -------+All I can add is.....the caddyless drives, at least Mitsumi, 
DC> don'thave the problem of sucking in dirt and dust that some of the 
DC> caddytype drives have.

The caddyless drives are about 1000 times easier to clean.
If you are a smoker, plan on cleaning your cd's as well as the drives on a
regular basis. I clean mine twice a month..
* SPITFIRE v3.3
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From: PAT RILEY                              Number: 1569
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 06/29/93  2:44a
Subj: Digital dreams for sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

JJ>Digital Dreams for sale
JJ>NOT the Mchenry version, this is the ERO TEK version.
JJ>anyway, it is an excellent adult CD disk...perfect condition.
JJ>25.00 OBO includes shipping!


Ok Jeff, here's my best offer.....
I'll take this one from you if you'll ship it COD for 25.00 even.
If it's a deal, send it to me at:
258 W Union
Edwardsville, Illinois 62025
(Post Office will do a COD cheaper than UPS)

Thanks.
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 1570
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 06/30/93  2:22p
Subj: Re: Adult cd price$                     Refer: NONE
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In a message to Lee Noga <06-28-93 08:51> Dave Kalwishky wrote:

DK>> TS>> regarding Nix Pix I, your reply seemed somewhat short. <g>..

DK>> Why is that?  Are there images on the disk that are that bad?

Several directories--"Bad" according to Federal guidelines, gross violation of
the Federal Obscenity laws (Beastiality etc)--Hate to go before a grand jury,
and ask them if they feel the same way the Gov't feels--Not all XXX is taboo,
just select areas are documented/known to be a violation of law, this disc has
directories devoted to the "Taboo", and it makes it intentional vs accidental
inclusion of a few random scans. The courts will hold the distributor liable as
well, and can charge them with distribution of Federally illegal
material.....that's why is is important that distribs know the products they
carry--Which brings me back to the Top 10 distribs in the US, none of them will
get near this disc for whatever reason for just this reason. T'aint worth
losing an entire biz because of a disc created by a publisher who is willing to
take a chance...1991 nobody worried, in 1993 the disc has no demand by
distribution.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 1571
  To: DAVID STULTS                             Date: 06/29/93  8:51p
Subj: CD-ROM, discs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >     Nightowl 8.0 ..................................... $ 15
  >     Phoenix-CD (also shareware) ...................... $ 10

If you still have these titles, let me know where to send a MO.  Also the 
approximate shipping amount for Chattanooga, TN.
                                                 Thanks, 
                                                     Ron


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1572
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93  9:56p
Subj: Best Nightowl 9 Prices                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        **  PCJ Computing is ANNOUNCING NIGHTOWL VERSION 9 !! **
 
                Our stock of Nightowl 9 Shareware CDs is
                on it's way.  We should have them in stock
                     by July 2.  Order yours today.
                    676 Meg - 100% 1993 - 4,955 Files
                    (59 Assorted Categories of Files)
                      Suggested Retail Price - $49
                          Our Price - Just $38
                      CALL 1-800-547-7817 to Order.
         We will meet or beat any other special offers or pricing!

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1573
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93 11:24p
Subj: Some Great CDROM Prices                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

************** PCJ Computing - Partial CDROM List - 6/30 ***************
 
   ShareWare (** BBS Ready)          Graphics/Sound/Educational (cont.)
AB20 Amiga CD-Rom............15.95  Dinosaur Adventure MPC.........33.95
America's Premier 1993 Sharw.24.95  Education Master or Business...19.95
C Users Group Library........29.50  Encyclopedia of Clip Art.......26.95
California Collection........16.95  Encyclopedia of Sound..........14.50
CD Powerbox.............**...22.95  Fonts #1.......................27.95
Fred Fish On-Line(Amiga)**...49.95  Fontmaster #1-18.95....or #2...27.95
Garbo MSDOS/MAC Shareware....14.95  Gifs Galore....................16.45
Gigabyte Gold...........**...24.95  Jets & Props...................38.95
Ham Radio (Shareware)........14.50  Lovely Ladies or Mother Earth..27.95
Libris Britannica.......**...52.95  Midi Music Shop................29.95
Lion Share..............**...26.95  Mother of All Clipart (23000)..23.95
Magnum Sight & Sound....**...28.95  Publish It v2.0 (with Manual)..32.95
Megarom 1 or SDN 1......**...19.95  Publique or Fresh Arte.........35.95
Megarom 2...............**...23 95  Publishers Dream Disc..........37.95
Monster Disc (2 Cds-92).**...39.95  Publishers Paradise............32.95
Nightowl Bus. Applications...22.95  Readers Library (2000 works)...28.95
NightOwl 5.0............**...17.95  Reference Library..............27.45
Nightowl 7.0............**...24.95  Sci-Fi (Pics/Sound/Files).**...27.95
Nightowl 8.0............**...26.95  Space Adventure................32.95
Nightowl 9.0............**...37.95  So Much Screenware (Gifs).**...27.95
Nightowl 8.0/9.0........**...67.95  Sound Works (Software).........18.95
Original Shareware 1992.**...16.95  Swimwear & More (SVGA).........28.95
OS/2 Archives (Hobbes).......14.95  Swimwear 1993.............**...28.95
PC Sig #9...............**...17.95  Talking Schoolhouse............36.45
PC Sig #10..............**...22.95  Talking Jungle or Classc.Tale..36.45
PC Sig #11..............**...24.95  Time Almanac 1990-17.95...1991-26.95
PC Sig #12..............**...24.95  VGA Spectrum ..#1-16.95.....#2-24.95
Phoenix v3.0............**...18.95  Wild Places or World View......23.95
Pier Shareware #1.......**...27.95  Women of Venus (Swimsuits).....27.95
Powerpak Gold...........**...22.95  Aircraft Encyclopedia..........35.95
SCI-FI (Pics,Sound).....**...27.95  Amer.Bus.Fone Book #1..$17 #2..27.95
Shareware 1993..........**...19.95  Animals SD Zoo (MPC or DOS)....26.95
ShareWare Overload...........14.50  Audobon Mammals or Birds.......26.95
Shareware Studio #1.....**...20.95  Bible Library (9 Bibles+)......28.95
Shareware Studio #2(NEW)**...23.95  Bibles & Religion..............14.50
Shareware Tiger.........**...24.95  Brit. Family Choice or Select..32.95
Sharew Extravaganza(4 cds)**.42.95  CD Cad v3.7 with manual........31.95
Simtel 20 (Gov't Sharw).**...14.95  Cinnemania.....................57.95
Software Vault #1.......**...22.95  Classic Collection (4 Pak).....53.95
Software Vault #2.(NEW).**...23.95  College Handbook (1992)........18.95
So Much Shareware #1....**...21.95  Complete Bookshop..............14.50
SO Much Shareware #2....**...28.95  Compton's Interactive Encylop..99.95
Sound Sensations.............14.50  Compton's MM Encyclopedia......68.95
Source Code (Unix/Dos).......19.45  Composer Quest.................37.95
Technotools (Programmers)....14.50  Consumer Information Disc......38.95
Top 2000 Shareware...........24.95  Crossword Cracker..............24.45
Windows 1993 or Winbox..**...27.45  Desert Storm...................34.95
Windows - CICA..........**...14.95  Dictionaries & Languages.......14.50
Windoware....................14.50  Elec. Home Libr.(250 books)....36.95
Window Master................19.45  Family Doctor..................29.45
X11R5/GNU CDRom..............24.95  Global Explorer (Delorme)......94.95
       Games/Educational            Great Cities of World 1 or 2...24.95
7th Guest....................52.95  Great Wonders of the World.....42.95
Adventures of Willy Beamish..28.95  Greatest Books Collection......44.95
Arthur's Teacher Trouble.....28.95  Grolier's Encyl. w/Ref Libr...229.95
Battlechess MPC..............29.95  Grolier Ill. Encyl. v2 (STW)...38.95
BattleChess Enhanced.........34.95  Grolier Ill. Encyl. v5 MPC.....47.95
Beauty & the Beast(Windows)..29.95  Guiness Disc of Records (92)...26.95
Carmen San Diego World Dlx...28.50  Inter. Business/Economic Atlas.24.45
Cd Game Pack v.1-19.95...v.2-26.95  Jazz, a MM history.............69.95
ChessMaster 3000 MPC.........26.45  Languages of the World.........47.95
Crossword Cracker............23.95  Library of the Future 1........52.95
DeathStar Arcade Battles.....14.50  MacMillan Dict for Children....38.95
Games 1993..............**...24.50  Magazine Rack..................23.95
GameMaster (Over 500 Games)..19.45  Mayo Clinic....................33.95
Golden Immortal..............24.95  Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing....27.95
Guy Spy......................46.95  Monarch Notes (Complete set)...63.95
 
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1574
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93 11:24p
Subj: Some GREAT CDROM Prices                 Refer: NONE
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******* PCJ Computing - Partial CDROM List - 6/30 - Continued **********
 
House of Games...............26.95  Nat. Geographic MPC Mammals....26.95
Kings Quest 5................24.95  National MM Parks Guide........27.95
Just Grandma & Me............41.95  North American Fax Book........48.95
Jones in the Fast Lane.......23.45  Our Solar System(Photos,Data)..14.50
Loom.........................24.95  P.C. Medic (Fix your PC).......32.95
Manhole......................36.95  Play w/Lang-Englh/Frenc/Span...49.95
Mixed Up Mother Goose........23.95  Pharmicist Guide to Drugs......27.95
Monkey Island (Secrets of)...24.95  Prophone Business 1993.........37.95
North American Indians.......49.95  Prophone(3 Set)-49.95..(7 Set)124.95
PC Gameroom..................28.45  Return to the Moon.............37.95
PC Sig Games.................23.95  Roger Ebert Movie Companion....42.95
Peter & the Wolf (Windows)...26.45  Sports Best on CDRom...........27.95
Secret Weapons of LuftWaffe..25.95  Street Atlas USA (Windows).....87.95
Sherlock or Shakespeare......16.95  Tempra Access Photo CD Softw...31.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1..24.95  TimeTable of Hist./Sci or Art..25.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2..54.95  Too Many TypeFonts (Laser).....14.50
SoundWav.....................28.95  ToolWorks Reference Library....26.95
Space Quest IV...............24.95  Total Baseball Encyclopedia....26.95
Spirit of Excalibur..........38.45  U.S. Atlas / Automap...........28.95
Stellar 7....................24.95  U.S. History...................33.95
StoryTime 1 or 2.............24.95  Visions of Saturn..............24.95
Trump Castle-5 casino games..28.95  World Atlas or US/World Atls...28.95
Ultima I - VI................35.95  World Atlas or US Atlas MPC....28.95
Wing Commander/Secret Missn..34.50  World Fact Book (CIA)..........24.95
Wing Commander/Ultima 6......24.95  World Traveler.................14.50
Wing Commander 2 Deluxe......57.95  World of Flight or Trains......33.95
Wing Commander 2/UUnderWrld..59.95  World Tour (CIA)...............23.95
Wrath of the Demon...........37.95
   Graphics/Sound/Educational      *************************************
Aesops Fables................29.95 ** We meet all legit / noncloseout **
Barney Bear-School or Space..21.95 ** prices in this echo. No hidden  **
Clip Art Galore...........**.28.95 ** charges for credit cards. Call  **
Clip Art Goliath (Pcx, Tif)..14.50 **for Adult Titles. Ship Worldwide **
Clip Art Heaven..............28.95 *************************************
Colossal Cookbook............14.50   Voice (24 Hours)    - 615-339-0235
Danger Hot Stuff 1...........18.95   Inquiries/Questions - 615-339-0235
Danger Hot Stuff 2...........24.95   When Ready to Order - 800-547-7817
Desktop Bookshop.............27.95   FaxBack (24 Hours)  - 615-339-0235
         Miscellaneous               Fax (24 Hours)      - 615-479-1047
Jokes & Pranks...............17.95   BBS (14400)         - 615-479-1047
1001 Utilities...............17.95   BBS (HST)           - 615-478-2890
Business Assistant...........17.95            CDROM Drives
Game Arena...................17.95  Pioneer 600A (Bare).........819.00
Learning Adventure...........17.95  Pioneer 600A with Kit.......849.00
Pentaminoes..................34.95  Pioneer 604X (Bare)........1197.00
QRZ Ham Radio................24.95  Pioneer 604X with Kit......1297.00
Giga Games...................28.95  Mitsumi 350ms Int w/Int. Kit - 195
SpaceQuest4/Kings Quest......34.95  Toshiba 3401 Int. (Bare)....455.00
CD Caddies....................4.95  Toshiba 3401 Ext. (Bare)....550.00

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1575
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/30/93 11:26p
Subj: Cd rom burners                          Refer: NONE
Read: 07/08/93  5:28p                       Private: No 

 TH>               ^^^^^
 TH> That's a heck of a buy... This time last year a one-off machine with
 TH> software cost about 8 grand.
 
It tiz....it tiz.....the price has been dropping steadily over the last 6
months for some reason.

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 1576
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/30/93  6:48p
Subj: NEC and Hitachi                         Refer: NONE
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 SP>    Does anyone know if you can run two different kinds of CD-ROM drives
 SP>   on the same system?I would like to have a NEC or other fast speed drive

Yup... I am running a Matubistua (or some weird name) and 2 mitsumis'

CJK

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 1577
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/30/93  6:49p
Subj: Pork-Ware 1 Review                      Refer: NONE
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 BJ>   many.  All in all, if you don't have an adult CD and want ONE with a 
 BJ>   variety of material on it, including a mix of nudes and "X", this 
 BJ>   isn't a bad choice.  It's better than XXX Extreme (aka Physical 
 BJ>   Therapy); better than the Nix Pix series (which personally I regard 
 BJ>   as poor); and a LOT better than either Giffy Gold or Digital Dreams 
 BJ>   with respect to the nude collection.  If you already have several 

Hi there.. I LOVE your review! it is great for people that dont have the $$ to
waste on buying disks and finding out they are jsut trash.... I have 1 question
though. Since you have seen quite a few Adult Disks.... can you recommened me a
few good or great ones? I run a BBS so I would be looking for a disk with some
sort of file listing on it if possible. Thanks!

CJK

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 1578
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 06/30/93  6:59p
Subj: NEC and Hitachi                         Refer: NONE
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 TK>  Well, considering I run a hitachi3600u and 3 hitachi 3500's on one 
 TK> card, a magnavox external on another card, and a mitsumi on yet another 
 TK> card, i think it's safe for me to tell you that you'll have no problems 
 TK> mixing cdrom brand names if you run them on seprate controllers and make 
 TK> sure you use different IRQ's/Addresses on each 

Hey dude! I was wondering if you could tell me if it is possible to run 2 or 3
MITSUMI's off of one card... I want to put in another node for my BBS... but
with 3 friggn' slots taken up by Mitsumi cards... I have no space. Any help
would be apprieciaeted. PS if you give me a name of a card that can do it..
please send along an APPROX. price! Thanks!

CJK

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 1579
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93  7:07p
Subj: I want a CD-ROM drive 4 cheap           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey.. I am looking for (yet another) new or used CD-ROM drive for a cheap
price. I run a bulletin board... so I am not concerned about access time or
transfer rate ect. I would like maybe and old Mitsumi or whatever else somebody
might have in there closet. Dont care if it is internal or external.... as long
AS IT WORKS! Please leave your replys here!

ATTENTION DEALERS: Maybe if you could give me a cheaper rate or a deal if I
bought a few CD's off of you, I could arrange some sort of advertizing on my
board.....

CJK

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1580
  To: JIM TAYLOR                               Date: 07/08/93  5:21p
Subj: Monster Media CD Review                 Refer: 5001
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> I will try to keep my reviews constant.  I don't work for a CD compan

We look forward to um... That's good stuff.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1581
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 06/29/93  8:08p
Subj: $$$                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BT>hey brice. the complaint was mostly with the distributor of the cd disks
BT>he told me via voice phone that my check was acceptable.  then when the
BT>package arrived, the story had changed. if i had known in advance that
BT>he would not accept my check , i owuld have made the proper arangments
BT>and either had the right amount of cash, or a money order..

Bubba, (or whatever your name is)

Let me make one thing clear here.  I NEVER, repeat N-E-V-E-R told you a
check would be OK for your first COD with us.  I clearly stated when you
called that the UPS driver would need CASH, CERTIFIED CHECK, or a MONEY
ORDER as payment for the CD's you ordered from us.  We were unfortunately
forced to take this policy many years ago when we first started shipping
COD, because 20-30% of the checks we received were bad.  Therefore, I
have never told ANYONE that a check, be it personal, business or
otherwise is acceptable on a COD order, so your above claim is absolutely
false.  Furthermore, when I spoke with you on the phone, you seemed
apologetic, and told me OUTRIGHT that you would reimburse us for the
shipping, and that a check would be mailed immediately for the lost
shipping charges, AND one of the CD's that you decided you wanted
after all.  Well, here it is some months later.  Where's my check?

To make matters worse, when I jokingly tried to jog your memory with a
gag about sending "Vinnie and Guido" to collect, you flew into a tantrum,
and flamed me THREE times on this public echo.  Here it is months later,
and I would just as soon forget about you and the whole mess, but you
keep bringing it up again and again!  Well enough already!  You brought
all this on yourself by stiffing us on a COD, then promising to pay for
the shipping, and then reneging on that promise and flaming me because
I reminded you of it!

You know, you could have avoided this whole conflict in a very simple
manner.  If you didn't have the exact amount for the COD, why didn't you
simply tell the UPS driver to return the following day with the package?
If you really wanted the CD's, that would have been the easiest solution,
so why didn't you take it?  Guess you were just looking for an excuse to
pick a fight with someone huh?  Well take your piss-ant attitude and go
bother someone else for a change.

.\\ike

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From: DON CAMFIELD                           Number: 1582
  To: ALL CALLERS                              Date: 06/30/93 10:15a
Subj: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE:                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The Viking's BBS is now selling CD Rom Disks and the few listed below are
currently on hand and we are selling them.
Carmen SanDiego Deluxe  $22.50
WORLD ATLAS (ATLAS PAK) $$22.50
MAGAZINE RACK           $22.50
SHERLCOK HOLMES ON DISC $22.50
ANIMALS FROM SAN DIEGO ZOO $ 25.50
GAME PACK I             $22.50
GAME PAK II              28.50
Note prices DO NOT INCLUDE SHIPPING AND HANDLING
PLEASE ADD $4.00 FROR SHIPPING AND HANDLING OR IF YOU WANT i WILL SEND IT
c.o.d. AND YOU PAY C.O.D FEES ALSO.
TO BUY ONE OF THESE OR TO GET A COPY OF THE COMPLETE LIST OF OVER 300 TITLES
PLEASE LEAVE A MESAGE ON FIDONET 1:395/46 OR YOU CAN CALL (817)526-0520 AND ASK
FOR DON OR LEAVE A MESSAGE AND I WILL GET BACK TO YOU.
* SPITFIRE v3.3

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 1583
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93  3:49p
Subj: Used CD's for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following used CD's for sale:

Lovely Ladies II(adult with 24-bit pics)          $35
os/2 archive                                      $25

will take cash offers only, or will trade for other adult cd's.



Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069


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From: MICHAEL WEST                           Number: 1584
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93 12:54p
Subj: OS/2 Shareware CDs...                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello,
  Does anyone know of any NEW OS/2 shareware CDs? I'm looking for programs
  dated after 12/92.
  
                                Thanks,
                                Michael
                                

... File not found, I'll load something *I* think is interesting.
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From: RICH JACKSON                           Number: 1585
  To: HOWARD MALKIEL                           Date: 06/30/93 10:27a
Subj: CD ROM DISCS TO TRADE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Re: Your Asian ladies CD, thanks, but I really had my heart set on it...

Maybe we'lldo some business in the future!
Rich

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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 1586
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/30/93  3:56p
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Mike!

In a message to Tim Helton <06/25/93> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS> TH>Isn't Mark Abb*.* Pier's top distributor?

MS> Not any more. <g>  (Sorry Mark - couldn't resist)

MS> .\\ike

Ohhhhhhh...... you never know my friend.....



 * WCE 1.02/2072 * Become a programmer and never see the world!!


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From: DENNIS STERNER                         Number: 1587
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93 11:55p
Subj: COMPTON'S MM ENCYCLODPEDIA              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
COMPTON'S MULTIMEDIA ENCYCLOPEDIA CD-ROM Disc - new in shinkwrap
with 90 page User's Manual -  Does NOT have needed drivers/floppy
disc.
 
For sale as is - $50
 
Call 717-637-2972

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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1588
  To: SEAN RANDOLPH                            Date: 06/29/93  6:50p
Subj: Re: USED CD ROM DRIVES                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

yes there is a large possibility I am asking $100 BUT WOULD BE OBO.
(206) 762-0429.  Please call


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From: FRITZ VOECKS                           Number: 1589
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93 10:49p
Subj: Dead Drive                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a Fusion =    Nec Model CDR-25BJ external CD drive.. that seems to b
dead.   The power light will go an and when the computor tries accessing it the
light goes on but it wont read the disk and the disk doesn't spin..
I'm wondering if this is a common problem easily repaired or one of the hazards
of buying a lower end discount CD Rom drive..
Fritz 

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 1590
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/01/93  3:22p
Subj: UP ALL NIGHT                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Just in, "UP ALL NIGHT" Shareware CD-ROM.  Approx 580megs, 5,100 files.  LArge
selection of Windows, VOC, WAV, Games, and more.  Only CDROM around that
contains some of the '90 CDROM Echo messages.  Look back in '90 and see what
people were talking about in the echo.  Special $24.00 in the echo.  Call
405-672-1708 for information.  VISA/MC accepted.

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From: CLARK PASCHALL                         Number: 1591
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/02/93 12:19a
Subj: Unix Clone...pd                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a copy of a Unix clone called Linux if anyone is interested.  For 
a full blown sys. with Xwindows takes ~60M of HD.  A basic system can be 
run on less (can't remember exactly 10M I think).  It comes on 30 HD 
disks.  Leave mail if interested.

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From: CLARK PASCHALL                         Number: 1592
  To: MIKE WALKER                              Date: 07/02/93 12:24a
Subj: Posted In wrong area                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I posted a message to all in the wrong area.  I didn't notice that I was 
in the CDSale area and posted a message on a Unix clone.  Please move it 
to the correct area if possible. I'll pay more attention in the future.

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 1593
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 06/30/93  5:58p
Subj: OUR TRADE                               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MB>I shipped my disc on the following monday AM.  I have a receipt from the USP
MB>to prove it.  I shipped it 2 day priority mail.  If it did not arrive until
MB>saturday, that is a USPS problem.  YOU DID NOT SHIP, PERIOD.  I did not offe
MB>tirade, I simply made it clear you were not holding up your end of the deal,
MB>and I wanted it corrected ASAP.  You still failed to complete the deal, by
MB>childishly, and vindictively sending back my disc.  You, for some reason,
MB>decided not to complete our trade, and this was your way of trying to shift
MB>blame to me.  If you got a better offer, all you had to do was say so, inste
MB>of creating this ridiculous scenario.  Give my best to to your mother.

Listen, Bozo, what I said was exactly true. There are several people in
this echo that can corroborate what I said. Not that I care what you
think. Your childish "THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE" is not acceptable to me. I
have no difficulty keeping my word, even if the product isn't what I
expected. Ask around the echo.  But I won't put up with some adolescent
moron with an attitude.
You need a sense of perspective. We're talking about you didn't get an
adult cdrom on time. No one died. No one lost their job. You just didn't
get your jollies a week earlier. I suppose your mother never told you
that you can attract more flies with honey than vinegar. Next time, try
to be a bit civil. You do know how, don't you?
As for my mother's stroke, it's not funny; it's not cute; and it's none
of your business.
Don't bother to reply. You've managed to earn the first spot in my twit
filter.

******************

ASIDE TO THE MODERATOR: I apologize for the ire. I will withdraw from
the echo if you wish. I didn't appreciate the outburst from some yo-yo
after a terribly tense week of taking care of my mother and helping a
quadriplegic to set up his computer.

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 1594
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/01/93  8:18a
Subj: OUR TRADE                               Refer: NONE
Read: 07/09/93  8:40a                       Private: No 

TH>Why not call Terry?  A telephone is a wonderful gizmo and allows you to
TH>talk to someone *immediately*, instead of waiting 3-4 days as this echo
TH>requires.  Terry's number is

Tim,
Please don't give out my phone number on a national echo. It's unlisted
for a real good reason.


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1595
  To: JERRY MASON                              Date: 07/01/93  1:52p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> I will take the Book CD if it is still available.

    Sorry, sold it.

Eric


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From: SCOTT ELMORE                           Number: 1596
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/01/93 12:30p
Subj:  Adult Cd Price$                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ >I traded away my copy 'cuz I didn't even want it in the

    What is on it that makes it illegal?
                        --Scott

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1597
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/30/93  8:20p
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Lee!

Tuesday June 29 1993, Lee Noga writes to Mike Shannon:

 LN> She has been out of print since April--She is back, she is better, SHE IS
 LN> BUSTY BABES--Will be back with distribution in July--The new cover uses
 LN> FLAMES/FIRE inside the font, and the disc says Release 3.0, so you can
 LN> tell the difference between the old one and the new one--The back of the
 LN> cover is 100% different too.

I wonder how long it'll take John or Ismail to duplicate your new one?  ;-)

Later,

Dave.

... First Hillary, then Jennifer... now US!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1598
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93 11:48p
Subj: MORE NEW CD'S!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 THE NEW CD'S KEEP POURIN' IN AT STARVECTOR!
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 New stuff for July:

 BUSINESS ASSISTANT - Keep your business profitable and efficient!....19.00
 CD WINBOX - 660mb of fresh, new Windows shareware w/ built-in GUI....29.00
 COOKBOOK HEAVEN - 20,000+ recipes, cookbooks, diet programs, etc.....29.00
 DIGITAL DREAMS - 660mb of ORIGINAL adult GIF scans! No BBS ads.......29.00
 HOT PIX 5 - The newest from Windy City. 600+mb GIF's. BBS ready......34.50
 JOKES & PRANKS - Loads of practical jokes, gags, & trick software....19.00
 KODAK PHOTO CD - Photo CD Access software w/ sample photos...........27.50
 LEARNING ADVENTURE - Educational software & games for ages 5 - 12....19.00
 MONSTER MEDIA '93 - 420mb of PURE 93 shareware! No dupes. w/ manual..33.00
 NIGHT OWL 9 - The latest and greatest!  680mb of ALL 93 shareware....45.00
 NIGHTWATCH INTERACTIVE - Full-motion adult video. You control plot...65.00
 PIER 2 - Simply the best shareware CD out! See for yourself!.........45.00
 PORKWARE II - Newest adult release w/ 600+mb of great .GIF's.........37.00
 POWERPAK 3.0 - Classic shareware CD with no "surprise" inside........28.00
 PRECISION MAPPING - Like Street Atlas only better! Runs under DOS....88.00
 QRZ HAM RADIO - 3/93 US callsign database w/ 100's of Ham programs...19.00
 SCI-FI - BBS-ready CD w/ Science fiction games, graphics, etc........28.50
 SEEDY ROM MOVIE DISC - Full-motion video adult CD w/ film clips......45.00
 SHAREWARE STUDIO 2 - Brand new disc. No dupes to #1. BBS-ready.......27.00
 SOFTWARE VAULT 2 - 630+mb of ALL 1993 SHAREWARE! Outstanding CD!.....29.00
 SOUND EFFECTS LIBRARY - Loads of fun and interesting sound FX........34.00
 WORLD TRAVELER - Great collection of world photos....................18.00
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Special Offer #1:  Buy any 5 titles above and deduct 5%
 Special Offer #2:  600mb shareware CD or Windows Game CD only $6 w/ purch.
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1599
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93 11:48p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 IN STOCK!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS!   NOW IN STOCK - THE LATEST AND GREATEST
NIGHT OWL OF ALL . . . . . . . . .
                                    . . . N  I  G  H  T      O  W  L
                                              |   |        +=======+
PRICE:  $45.00                            ====|===|====    ||     ||
                                              |   |        ||     ||
SPECIAL EARLY BIRD OFFER                  ====|===|====    +=======|
------------------------                      |   |               ||
Order before July 4, and                                          ||
receive your choice of:                       +-----+             ||
                                              | $45 |
    . Software Vault 2                        +-----+
    . Shareware Studio 2
    . Powerpak 3.0
    . Night Owl 7 . . . . . . . . . for ONLY $15 additional!

or  . Night Owl 8 . . . . . . . . . for ONLY $25 additional!

>> PREVIOUS STARVECTOR CUSTOMERS CALL FOR YOUR SPECIAL PRICE!

CALL TO ORDER YOUR COPY TODAY! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1-800-767-1284
OPERATORS (Rainie & I) ARE STANDING BY!

>> WE WILL NOT BE UNDERSOLD ON THIS TITLE!  FIND IT FOR LESS?  IF IT'S A
>> LEGITIMATE AD, WE'LL BEAT THE PRICE - GUARANTEED!

***************************************************************************
Plus, all Starvector customers between now and July 17th will automatically
be entered in our drawing for a FREE PIER 2 shareware CD!  Drawing will be
held on Monday, July 19th, with the WINNER ANNOUNCED ON RIME AND FIDONET!
***************************************************************************

----- NO PURCHASE NECESSARY -------- GREAT COMPANION FOR NIGHT OWL 8! -----

+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| To enter Starvector's PIER 2 GIVEAWAY, simply fill out a postcard with  |
| your name, address, and phone number, and mail it to:  Starvector       |
| Software * PO BOX 8160 * Yakima WA 98908.  All entries must be received |
| by Saturday July 17th to qualify.  Entry into this giveaway will be     |
| automatic for all Starvector customers placing orders between June 22,  |
| and July 17th.  One entry per person please.  Drawing held July 19th.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 1600
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/01/93  5:47a
Subj: Night Owl's #9 $29                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Night Owl's v.9 $29.
We also have hundreds of reasonable priced CD-ROM titles.
 
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400 1-800-373-0628
1-206-473-1634 FAX 1-800-277-5179 FAX 

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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 1601
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/01/93  8:40p
Subj: More ROM titles 4 sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have one each of the following CDROM titles for sale at prices stated: 
 
$10.00          World Traveler (Chestnut Title) Their first multimedia 
                title. Most of the pictures were kind of grainy looking. 
                Maybe they blew up good 320x200 pictures to 640x480. Also 
                to get full benefit you must have a SB sound board and not 
                a compatible. Lots of video util. files and their fractal 
                pictures were nice. 434 meg. 3414 files. 
 
$20.00          Media Clips DEEP VOYAGE. An audio-visual underwater adv. trip. 
                Outstanding pictures on this MPC disc. 100 dynamic images in 
                each of various formats; GIF, BMP, PCX, TIFF. 100 audio clips 
                in VOC & WAV formats and 25 movies AVI for WIN. 
 
$20.00          Family Practice Medline 1:1 Winter 1992. General medical 
                reference work for families with reports of the latest 
                research results through 1992. Interesting database. 
 
$20.00          Pediatrics Medline 1:1 Winter 1992. Kind of like a super "well 
                baby book". Again latest research results through 1992. 
 
$75.00          SPECIAL*SPECIAL*SPECIAL  14 issues of NAUTILUS the WINDOWS mag 
                on CDROM. These cover from beginning of May 1992 til the end 
                of May 1993. (Yes its only 13 months but they issued every 4 
                weeks after I got the first one..hence 14 issues.) There are 
                hundreds of megs of movies (AVI), sound (WAV & MIDI), files,  
                info, music videos etc.. The $75 includes the postage on this 
                item. 
 
All prices are firm and do not include shipping. For shipping: 1st item $2.00 
2nd item $1.00 more, 3rd and above $.50 more each. 
 
Sorry but to make this easier for me, these are for sale in U.S. only. No COD. 
A money order gets same day first class shipping, and a check gets a 5 bank 
working day hold. All orders will get a letter telling status of order, return 
of monies, etc. as needed. 
 
Send order to: 
 
Paul Swider 
509 Digger St. 
Las Vegas, Nv. 
89107 
 
If you have to discuss anything about the titles or concerning an order, 
please call me at (702) 877-4907 from 1PM to 9PM PDST. Thanks. 
 
>Paul< 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50  "Of all the things I lost I miss my mind the most." 

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1602
  To: BRIAN HURLEY                             Date: 07/01/93  6:33a
Subj: Pork-Ware 1 Review                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BH> One question.  Does all the x-cd's gifs have bbs logos on them?   
 BH> which                                                             
 BH> ones that you've seen?                                            
                                                                       
  
So far, only FAO Gold, Digital Dreams (Ero Tek), and Giffy Gold have no 
BBS logos (that I've seen). Smaller logos, for example Nitelog Imaging, 
aren't objectional to me. It's the Nix Pix, McHenry, etc. that I think 
detracts from the images. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1603
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 07/01/93  6:36a
Subj: Review of "digital dreams               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JM> You probably meant the "producers"; it might be helpful for thes  
 JM> others you do in the future to let us know who the producers are  
                                                                       
  
Good point!  I was a bit fast and loose with the word "authors" when I 
should have said "producers". Thanks! 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1604
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/01/93  5:31p
Subj: Adult cd price$                         Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 MB> DK> Why is that?  Are there images on the disk that are that bad  
 MB>                                                                   
 MB> Nope, they are THAT good! [if you like REALLY weird stuff}:->     
                                                                       
  
Let's agree to seperate image "quality" from image "content". Now the 
latter part of your statement is correct: Nix Pix Vol. 1 has some really 
wierd (and illegal) stuff on it.  That's image "content".  In general, 
IMHO, Nix Pix image "quality" is pretty poor owing to their use of a lot 
of their "members" snapshots, many, many of which are done with Polaroid 
cameras (for understandable reasons). 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1605
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/01/93  4:55p
Subj: Pork-Ware 1 Review                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CK> can you recommened me a few good or great ones? I run a BBS so I  
 CK> be looking for a disk with some sort of file listing on it if po  
 CK> Thanks!                                                           
                                                                       
  
No single CD is "perfect" of course, and as we all know: "Beauty is in 
the eyes of the beholder."  Still, my experience (and the stats from my 
data base) say that it would be hard to go wrong with Busty Babes, or 
Ecstasy, or the PCPIX series.  BB and Ecstasy are both "BBS ready". Vol 
2 & 3 of the PCPIX series include file descriptions, but Vol 1 doesn't. 
HOWEVER, PCPIX vol 3 has a file with the listings for Vol 1 as well. 
There are VERY few repeats across the PCPIX series and the images are 
generally quite nice. If you were looking for just a few CDs, I think 
you'd be happy choosing from these. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1606
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/01/93 12:37p
Subj: GIF Name Data Base                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  I've gotten a couple of inquiries about my "GIF Name" data base, so
  I thought it might be useful to post a bit of info about it here
  since it was part and parcel of my review of Pork-Ware 1.  To keep
  on topic, I created this data base in order to compare GIF file
  names across so-called "adult" CD-ROMs.  Historically, there has
  been little originality (i.e. truly new images) across such
  products.  Instead, producers have been content to "re-hash" many of
  the same files that were already released on other CD-ROMs, and that
  have been posted on some of the larger adult-oriented BBS-s, many
  for quite some time.  This syndrome has spawned the potential for
  unwary buyers of "new" adult CDs getting ripped off by, in effect,
  re-purchasing material they already had.  This has certainly
  happened to me more than once, much to my chagrin.

  Since some CD-ROM dealers who also run BBS-s began posting for
  download the file descriptions for the adult CDs they had for sale,
  it has become possible to at least look at file names (and sometimes
  descriptions) before buying for some CDs.  While this practice is
  not very wide-spread, it is a start and certainly better than
  nothing.  Do to the sheer number of GIF image files that can be put
  on a CD (3500+ is not uncommon), to compare file names across CDs
  with any efficiency requires a computerized data base.  Over time, I
  have generated, loaded, and sometimes deleted the files listings
  from a goodly number of adult CDs - like about 30 in the aggregate.
  Today, the number of UNIQUE file names in my data base numbers close
  to 50,000.  The file names come from the following volumes:

           Seedy ROM 6-Pak               Seventh Heaven (aka Seedy 7)
           Busty Babes (1st ed.)         Ecstasy
           FAO-2                         FAO-3
           FAO Gold                      PCPIX-1
           PCPIX-2                       PCPIX-3
           Visual Fantasies              Pork-Ware 1 (recently added)
           Storm 3

  I deliberately left out (or removed) the file names from many older
  adult CD releases (e.g. Private Pictures) because they contained
  mostly low resolution images.  Today, in my view, it's unacceptable
  to include images of less than SVGA resolution.  Since I wanted my
  data base to help me with decisions about new products, including a
  lot of low resolution file names wasn't of much utility.  Also, some
  CDs (e.g. FAO-1, Nix Pix volumes, etc.) have only or mostly
  "customized" file names on them making file comparisons based on
  names from such CDs practically worthless.  (Sadder still, even some
  obviously renamed files have themselves been re-hashed on to "new"
  CDs!)  Still other CDs (e.g. Storm 1&2, XXX Extreme, etc.) were
  omitted because of high duplication with the selected volumes.

  That brings us to the file names themselves.  First, it's certainly
  true that just because two GIF files have the same name doesn't HAVE
  to mean they're the same image.  Secondly, it's also true that
  "different name" doesn't always mean "different image".
  Furthermore, if you read this echo often enough, you will sooner or
  later read a thread that discusses the "dash -" and the "underscore
  _" characters and their relevance to "data" CD-ROMs of all types.
  (By "data" I mean only to exclude purely audio CDs.)  The "dash"
  character is not acceptable to the ISO 9660 standard which most data
  CDs adhere to.  Accordingly, many GIF file names on CDs have all
  their "dash" characters converted to the acceptable "underscore _"
  character.  This means, for example, a file originally named
  "DS-F-123" USUALLY gets renamed on the CD as "DS_F_123".  I say
  "usually" because the file could also end up named "DSF123" or
  "DSF_123" or most any other permutation of its original name at the
  whim of the CD's producers.  Also, one finds that many names even
  without any ISO 9660 forbidden characters still get corrupted or
  outright new names when put on a CD.  Whom actually did the changing
  of course isn't discernible, nor is it terribly important.  What is
  important is "why" and to realize that such practices, intentional
  or otherwise, only add gravity to the increasingly pertinent "caveat
  emptor".

  Now, to meld these two discussions into one, let me say that I
  finally decided to construct my GIF file name data base from
  listings produced from DOS "DIR" commands executed against the CDs
  themselves.  Originally, I had used included text files on the CD
  such as "FILES.BBS" as source material for the file names.  Big
  mistake - such files don't exist on some CDs and some that are on
  the CDs are "less than completely accurate."  Also, I once
  post-processed the DIR listings to remove all "dash" and
  "underscore" characters in an attempt to homogenize out petty
  differences.  This proved to be of far less value than could be
  justified by the effort.  [As a side bar, it's interesting to note
  that the PCPIX volumes still manage to use the supposedly forbidden
  "dash" character in many of their file names.  How the producers of
  those volumes did it would be an interesting story if anyone knows
  it - I don't.]

  Given all of the above, one might ask: "So what's the value of your
  GIF file name data base?"  That's a legitimate question and one that
  I've given some thought to now that most of the effort of setting it
  up and maintaining it is behind me.  Here's my answer...After MUCH
  electronic examination and comparison of other measurable file
  characteristics such as resolution, image size, checksum, and file
  size, for my purposes I've determined that file name comparison,
  with all its faults and "traps", is still far and away the best
  discriminator of duplication where the practice of or potential for
  re-hashing is an issue.

  Where do I go from here?  Well, in spite of all the effort I've put
  into it, I really hope my data base becomes obsolete, and the sooner
  the better.  This will only happen if and when the producers of
  adult CDs start using only truly new material and quit re-hashing
  files.  I think market pressure will eventually force this to happen
  when we CUSTOMERS demand it by beginning to hold the producers
  responsible for their products.  How can we do this?  First,
  vigilance. As copyright laws in this domain are increasingly
  enforced and truly new material requires effort and expense to
  procure, unscrupulous, fast-buck producers will continue to attempt
  to foist old material on us under the guise of a new lusty label and
  packaging, and a lot of advertising hype.  Those not privileged
  enough to know about and use this echo are at a particularly serious
  disadvantage and will be easy prey.  [Many thanks to Bob & Tim, and
  all the sysops that carry this echo!]  Bottom line: the fast-buck
  artists will be with us for a while.  One form of vigilance can be
  in sharing data about real or so-called new releases.  One vehicle
  for sharing data is the "reviews" that I and others have posted on
  this echo.  Even though each such "review" may represent only one
  person's opinion, that's at least one more data point than we would
  have otherwise.  Such vigilance is made easier by the cooperation of
  reputable producers and dealers like Lee Noga, Mike Shannon, and Jim
  Lambert who have offered gratis or "on approval" disks for
  "no-holds-barred" reviews.  They are taking risks by doing this and
  we owe them thanks for it.

  Secondly, if you think you've been ripped off, don't just sit by and
  take the loss.  Go back to your dealer and try to get some form of
  compensation like a refund or exchange.  The dealer wants and needs
  your business.  If he gets a lot of flak about a particular product,
  he'll drop it and the producer will eventually get the message - and
  the sooner the better.

  Thirdly, when you find a reputable dealer, and there's plenty of
  them on this echo like Boris Osadciw who have developed a well-known
  reputation for accepting returns from dissatisfied customers, let
  the echo know so others can give them the patronage and ripoff
  problems can be avoided in the first place.

  The CD-ROM business is booming and will continue to do so for a
  while, IMHO.  In any "boom cycle", no matter what the product, there
  will always be those with agendas that don't include the customer in
  any role other than "sucker".  The customer in the market for adult,
  sexually-oriented material seems particularly vulnerable because the
  products appeal to some our stronger instincts.  CD-ROMs are no
  exception.  Accordingly, we CUSTOMERS need to erect (no pun
  intended) every defense we can to stay ahead of the adult CD-ROM


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1607
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/01/93 12:37p
Subj: GIF Name Data Base                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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  fast-buck specialists.  My data base is one such defense.  If you
  have another (defense, not data base), I'm sure the echo would be
  pleased to hear about it as long as it's on topic.

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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 1608
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 06/30/93  3:30a
Subj: Reality Check                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BT> i had no idea that someone could go to work without any money in thier
 BT> pocket,  when i handed him a hundred dollar bill, he said he couldn't
 BT> change it...the change was only  9 dollars.....??????

Hey Bubba.....You can complain to UPS if you wish but you and others here may
like to know that it UPS policy that they DO NOT carry money around to make
change for anyone and are not obliged to do so...if a carrier does out of the
goodness of their heart, well, that's nice....don't count on it though.


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 1609
  To: PAL HAMMERSCHMIDT                        Date: 07/01/93 12:26a
Subj: problem with a cd                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

24 Jun 93 03:16, Pal Hammerschmidt wrote to Jim Sharrer:

 PH> acting up. The CD has a few scratches on it, but that shouldn't matter
(at
 PH> least it doesn't with Audio CD's....). Other CD's work just fine.

I hope you don't get many replies to this, but I believe that you are wrong.
Audio cd's, as I understand it, oversample (read the same data several times)
and then, if there is a discrepancy between the samples, average the samples
which were obtained for the data to either side of the discrepancy to smooth
out any weirdness that a scratch might cause.  You can probably see that such a
method would not work with binary data.

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 1610
  To: TIM SCHOOLER                             Date: 07/01/93 12:59a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE$                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you are looking for Nix Pix #1, I have 1 copy for sale for $75.  After
months of trying to find it for less than $90, I suddenly ended up with two
copies.

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 1611
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/01/93  1:06a
Subj: Cd drives, software, &c.                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

27 Jun 93 06:41, Tim Helton wrote to Patrick Rosenheim:

 TH> YOUR LINE LENGTH IS TOO LONG.

It's more likely that you are not placing hard carriage returns at the end of
each lines (or your editor, etc. is taking them out).

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 1612
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/30/93  6:30a
Subj: Re: modem                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SP> TM> I've picked up a USRobotics 14400 modem but i'm still dnloaading

SP>   What's its access time and transfer rate?Note..this is CD-ROM echo.

Note this is CDROM_SALE echo.

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From: KEVIN WAKEFIELD                        Number: 1613
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/02/93  9:54a
Subj: New adult cd                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Announcing a new adult GIF/TARGA image CD ROM ---    
 
 
            ***   WILD WOMEN Volume 1    ***


 - 600+ Megabytes, 2800+ files
     525 Megs of GIFs, 60 Megs of TARGAs, 15 Megs of utilities/misc.
 - BBS ready with FILES.BBS descriptions in each directory
 - Simple auto configuring MENU interface ( no hard disk installation) 
 - GIF index "thumbnail" catalogs of all files 
     80 images/index file, 1024,768x256 resolution
 - Simple and descriptive directory structure
 - Tons of new images never published on any other adult disc!
 - This is not a "knock-off" and does not contain "recycled" material
 - Professional quality jewel case artwork


  Available in August, 1993!!!!







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From: KEVIN WAKEFIELD                        Number: 1614
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/02/93  9:56a
Subj: Seeking distributors                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  We are seeking distributors for a new adult GIF/TARGA image CD Rom  disc
titled "WILD WOMEN Volume 1".  We are looking for distributors  both in the
United States and globally.  WWv1 is a quality, professional  product with
eye-catching jewel case artwork.  The disc will be available in early August,
1993.  We are now accepting dealer pre-orders!  Here are  some of the
highlights of the disc:

 - 600+ Megabytes, 2800+ files
     525 Megs of GIFs, 60 Megs of TARGAs, 15 Megs of utilities/misc.
 - BBS ready with FILES.BBS descriptions in each directory
 - Simple auto configuring MENU interface ( no hard disk installation) 
 - GIF index "thumbnail" catalogs of all files 
     80 images/index file, 1024,768x256 resolution
 - Simple and descriptive directory structure
 - Tons of new images never published on any other adult disc!
 - This is not a "knock-off" and does not contain "recycled" material
 - Professional quality jewel case artwork


  We can be contacted at:

              Digital Concepts, Inc.
              108 Stone Gate Way
              Mableton, GA   30059
              Phone: 404-732-1744

  Thanks.....


       <<<  kw  >>>




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From: ROBERT BIR                             Number: 1615
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/01/93  8:23p
Subj: CD-ROM Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hello
  if this drive is still for sale leave me mail very intrested.
ROBERT A BIR
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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 1616
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/01/93  5:32a
Subj: Cdrom production                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                       Four    Star    Enterprises
                     Custom CDROM production Service

  Our CDROM Recorder is in, and ready to serve you!   We can produce
  a Custom CDROM From your QIC 36/40/80 Tapes, or your Hard Drive
  overnight!

     o Complete confidentiality assured.
     o Free up Megabytes of expensive magnetic media
     o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
     o Reasonable Rates. (We will meet or beat any offer)
     o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
     o Great for BBS Files, Document Imaging, and Permanent Archival!
     o Great for Multimedia Presentations / Demos.
     o Free UPS Red label shipping to the Continental U.S.

 Pricing for Custom CD production:

o  Up to 527 Megabyte CD's.  $1 per Megabyte. $85 Minimum, $139 Maximum.
   $50 for each duplicate after paying Full price for the first. o  Up to 650
Megabyte CD's.  $1 per Megabyte. $90 Minimum, $144 Maximum.
   $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first. o  CD
Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee. o  Free UPS Red label shipping (2 day Air)
to the continental US.

Terms:  Prepay for service via Certified check or money order.  Personal
        checks must clear bank before production begins.  SORRY, we are not
        set up to accept your Visa/Mastercard yet.


 ***   **  ***   **  ***   **    Special    **   ***  **   ***  **   ***
 For the months of July and August, all orders qualify for a 10% discount
 from our CURRENT pricing.  Offer ends August 31, 1993.
 ***   **  ***   **  ***   **    Special    **   ***  **   ***  **   ***

For further information, File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node 1:239/900.0 at
V.32bis speeds.

 517-865-6800 Voice (11:00 AM - 6:00PM Monday - Saturday)
 517-865-6066 (Customer Support BBS)
 1:239/900.0 (Fidonet)

Revision Date: 07-01-93

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From: CHARLES ADKINS                         Number: 1617
  To: HOWARD MALKIEL                           Date: 07/02/93  2:23a
Subj: Cd trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Howard Malkiel to All dated 06-28-93 ***
> I recently purchased the new Digital Dreams CD, and although it it s
> great CD, I thought it was the McHenry type (XXX), and this one is
> R rated. If anyone out there would like to trade an XXX for this 
> one, please let me know. Thanks.
> 
> *!* DB 1.53/001777
>  * Origin: DSC (Datamax/Satalink Connection) * 215-443-9434 
> (1:273/203)
> 
> 
[------------------------- End of Quote --------------------------]



Uuuhhh... Kinda Off topic, Ain't it?


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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 1618
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/02/93  4:42a
Subj: Cd rom burners                          Refer: NONE
Read: 07/09/93  8:51a                       Private: No 

TH>-> How about $4,800?  I can get you one for that plus shipping and handl
TH>              ^^^^^

TH>That's a heck of a buy... This time last year a one-off machine with
TH>software cost about 8 grand.

I'm pretty happy with the current pricing....    I bit when they hit $5099 and
I have mine now...

I've been told by several people that I was foolish to buy it with CD-WRITE,
and that I wouldn't be able to get it to work without a several hours of tech
support.   I'm either luckier than those people were, or I just know my way
around computers, IRQ's and what not better.  Because I had it installed and
running from out of the box on my own in less than 2 hours.

I *AM* looking around for better software.  I picked up a copy of "Publish
yourself on CDROM", which comes with a Demo version of EASY-CD.   It's not too
bad, once you resign yourself to using Windows :)

I've read a lot about ISO-Master - That is likely the package I will end up
buying, if I can just locate it...  <heheh>

Could you pass along any info you have about software for these buggers? I'm
especially interested in something that will do CD-Redbook Audio.

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 1619
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/01/93 10:37a
Subj: sellin' some Roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can You tell me a little more about Sherlock Holmes 1, must it have a
fast cd rom, because I don't!?
                             Thanks,
                                  Sam Figueroa
Sam's Software
(615) 728-7383
Manchester's Best Shareware Distributer!!!

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From: NILL TOULME                            Number: 1620
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/01/93  5:46p
Subj: GOOD MAIL ORDER SOURCE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I just bought a Toshiba 3401 with Pro Audio Studio, cables, etc. etc. and 
a bunch of disks from Kirk Jensen at CDROM Access.  Kirk has excellent 
prices and an excellent attitude, and I recommend him.  His disk prices 
are low enough that you can make your own "bundle".  His disk list is 
too long for me to post, but here's his hardware info:
_________________________________________________________________________

Hardware Items (shipping on hardware at actual cost)
 Toshiba XM-3401B internal, Kodak PhotoCD Access disc, caddy         $449
 Pro Audio Spectrum 16                                               $165
 Pro Audio Studio 16                                                 $225
 Pro Audio Spectrum/Studio internal audio and SCSI cable kit          $15
 Complete kit: Toshiba XM-3401B bundle, PAS-16, and cables           $625
 Complete kit: Toshiba XM-3401B bundle, PA Studio 16, and cables     $685
 Sound Blaster Pro audio cables for Toshiba, Texel, Sony, or Chinon   $15
 NEW SONY Top-quality CD CADDIES (with CD order) ....................  $5

PAYMENT: VISA or M/C (no surcharge), checks, & money orders.
S/H PER ORDER: US $4, $8 DHL; Can $6 Air, $20 DHL. Europe $10 Air, $20 
DHL. 
Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan, Australia, NZ, $20 DHL. Otherwise actual 
cost.

** VOICE (415) 941-2400  FAX (415) 941-4900   ORDERS ONLY (800) 959-5260  
** CD-ROM ACCESS * 27361 MOODY ROAD * LOS ALTOS, CA 94022  M-Sat 7AM-6PM


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From: SCOTT HUNSINGER                        Number: 1621
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 07/02/93 10:27p
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > SH> CD's for sale: 
 > SH> Wing Commander II Deluxe Edition 
 > I am interested in this and maybe Sherlock, how much? 
I think both are sold...thanks for the interest, though.
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From: JASON SAUVE                            Number: 1622
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/02/93  5:24p
Subj: EuRoPeAn RaCeR                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey, I'm looking to buy this European Racer game but am going to get a few
people's opinions before I do, so anybody that's got the game I'd like your
brief description of the game and what you think of it.

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From: BEN WARREN                             Number: 1623
  To: JEREMIAH CASEY                           Date: 07/06/93  2:50p
Subj: Cd-Rom For Sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

well,jeremiah,i might take a little less,but this is an external unit with
it's own power supply and you don't have to fool with making sure you have an
extra floppy drive cable to plug into it or a place to mount it in the
chassis.i'd consider$
$150.00
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From: BUNNY MCELWEE                          Number: 1624
  To: SKIP OWEN                                Date: 07/06/93  6:19p
Subj: Comment 07/06/93 6:19p                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    hey just wanted to say sorry for hanging up earlier...I seem to be
having a real problem today with line noise...Probably because of the
storm...Again, sorry


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1625
  To: BRIAN DHATT                              Date: 07/07/93  9:59a
Subj:  NEC CD ROM DRIVE FORFOR                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


BD> TB> I have a NEC cd rom drive for sale with controller card for
 BD> $225. TB> The access time of this drive is 350 ms.  Call
 BD> 205-824-2552  and TB> be sure to mention you are calling about
 BD> the used NEC.
 BD> Please give me the model number and any other info on this drive
 BD> that you have.  Thanks!  Brian Dhatt
  
 CDR80  I can't find the book that came with it.
 
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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 1626
  To: DON NELSON                               Date: 07/06/93  8:47a
Subj: CD_ROM Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > VC> > Thanks, I'll have to pass.  I figured out I can get then
 > VC> > cheaply when I order
 > VC> I want to know who gives you the free caddies when you order
 > VC> CD's.
 > I didn't say free.  I said cheaper when I order CD's
 > ($2.49-3.49)

You're right - I didn't read the post correctly !
And still, who provides this service ?

Vikki

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From: CHRIS FREYER                           Number: 1627
  To: LOYD CRAFT                               Date: 07/05/93  1:52a
Subj: Cd rom burners                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LC> * OLX 2.1 * WOODEN STICK 3.1 - For Propping Open Your Windows


Loved your tagline so much I stole it.
CF.

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From: RON URBASSIK                           Number: 1628
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 07/03/93  3:59p
Subj: Adult cd price$                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DK>TS>> regarding Nix Pix I, your reply seemed somewhat short. <g>.. What's
DK>TS>> wrong with it ? You carry all of the others...

NIX PIX, HOT PIX 1, $89, 622 mb, 4901 files total. Descriptions.
Anal, beastiality, bondage, famous skin, fist, gay, transexuals,
water sports, etc. Semi wife-proof because of title. 12/91.

Send to:  GOOSEBUMP GRAPHICS   BOX 5167   MENTOR, OH   44061
or call:  (216) 254-2609 (voice)  24-hours / 7 days
          (216) 254-1206 (fax)

Free Shipping, same day, by UPS 2nd day air.
Foreign orders - free air mail shipping world-wide.

[ ] MasterCard   [ ] Visa   [ ] Amex    [ ] Discover
[ ] Money Order  [ ] Check  [ ] COD

CADDIES, $6.  Sony type.  Stainless steel mechanism.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 1629
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/04/93  9:59p
Subj: Turbo Pascal Shareware CD               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now taking orders for the July 1993 TP Utility
Library, a collection of 680 TurboPascal 5.0 or later files with a database
with extensive information on all these and all known commercial Turbo related
products. As a special intro to EMS products, the TP Library on CD-ROM is $25
only if you mention you saw it on this echo. Also on the CD-ROM is a database
of 16000 PC firms and the 44,000 products they make. Call voice (301) 924-3594
or Fax:(301)963-2708. E-Mail:eengelmann@worldbank.org. 30 day satisfaction
guarantee, of course. Shipment is scheduled for July 16.
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From: TOM CAMPBELL                           Number: 1630
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/06/93 10:16p
Subj: Looking for a drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for a trade for a CD ROM drive - Like everyone else, I too have a
bunch of stuff to trade:

    Adaptec 1542 SCSI Card
    Future Domain 840 SCSI Card
    Western Digital 1003 MFM FH card
    U bunch of DC 2000 cartridge tapes
    40 meg IRwin Tape back up from a Compaq (not sure it works though)
    Cash

Yes, for the right CD drive, cash is definately something I'm willing to throw
in - but I'm NOT interested in a pure cash deal - I can get that through
Computer Shopper - and I'd prefer to get some of these cards off my shelf.

I'm looking for something I can connect to my DTC SCSI controller, or
something that has a driver card included.  I'd prefer a double speed drive,
but if the price is right (really cheap), I'll look at a slower drive.

Leave E-Mail here, or call me (Tom) at 919-231-7339 (Raleigh, NC)

Tom

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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 1631
  To: KEVIN MARTIN                             Date: 07/05/93  6:46a
Subj: I NEED SOME INFO.                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Kevin; It was the 1991 dos version.
Clint

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From: DON BRADEN                             Number: 1632
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/06/93 12:00a
Subj: magnavox CDD461 cdrom                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I have for sale a Magnavox CDD461 external cdrom reader. Access> 650
ms. Reasonably good transfer rate. Has proprietary card and software to get
it up and running. It plays standard audio disks with no problem.A disk
caddy is not required. Good intro to CDROM. I am asking $250 Canadian but
am willing to consider offers. If interested please leave word on this echo
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From: NEIL ALLEN                             Number: 1633
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/06/93  4:04p
Subj: Busty Babes Release 3.0                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Vince Sorensen to All <=-

 VS> CD-ROM WHOLESALERS of CANADA will also be presenting their new
 VS> (its massive!) selection of titles at Comdex Canada in Toronto
 VS> July 12-16. Stay tuned for more information!

        Can you tell me more about this?  Is this going to be at a
computer/software show?


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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 1634
  To: JASON BUCHANON                           Date: 07/06/93  6:16p
Subj: STREET ATLAS USA                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JB>Call Mike Shannon at Starvector Software.  his number sshould be in the echo
JB>somewhere. Iwas talking to him the other day and he was telling me about a n
JB>disk comming out that's better than Street Atlas USA.

Thanks a lot Jason.  I'll give him a call.  But the search is out for
used copies of Street Atlas USA and Various Adult CD Titles.  If anyone
has anything in this line... PLEASE drop Al James a line!


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From: RYAN COZZUBBO                          Number: 1635
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/06/93  4:15p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone know where I can gat CD-ROMs that are full of anime?
___
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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 1636
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/04/93  8:16p
Subj: ROM DRIVES FOR SALE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi all,
As many of you know I recently had several Hitachi CDR-1503S external
CD-ROMS for sale. All of that group were sold immediately, and I have
just purchased a shipment of fifty (50) more used drives.
If you are interested in some of these drives, please call my BBS at
(517)892-5079. These drives are TESTED and refurbished, and carry a 30
day warranty. I have references that purchased the drives if you need
some, so call today to reserve yours.
Hitachi CDR-1503S external CD-ROM DRIVES.
Bare drive............106.00
Cable..................13.00
Interface card.........71.00
One card will handle four (4) drives daisy chained together, so don't
miss out, call today!
Matt Bedtelyon
SysOp - MEG*A*BITE BBS
P.O. Box 21
Essexville, MI  48732-0021
1:239/675


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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 1637
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/06/93 10:06p
Subj: ANNOUNCEMENT                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 VS>   ** COME SEE US AT COMDEX IN TORONTO JULY 12-16 **

GREAT! (But Im not going to Toronto for it!) Please keep us Canadiens posted in
this echo!

CJK

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From: ERYN BAY                               Number: 1638
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/06/93  6:06p
Subj: Re: Office 3.0                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

David, 

 EB> What can I get in trade for Microsoft Office 3.0?

 DR> I'll give you a Super_CD for it.

     
     That and what else?

     What is Super_CD? I saw it advertized for $23.00.  Office  
     costs $395.00.

     What I am looking for is a few good recent Shareware disks,
     and an Adult Gay gif disk.  Or maybe 7th Guest and the
     new Kings Quest.

     If you want to contact me direct, my BBS number is 
     918-225-0013.


... You tell 'em Brake, You've got the drag.  
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From: ALLAN KENNEDY                          Number: 1639
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 06/27/93  6:10p
Subj: Cd drives, software, &c.                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PATRICK  I wish you could see the way your add spreads across and wraps on my
screen. You proablly have some good prices and I would like too check them out,
but your adds are so hard to read I just delete them when they pop up. I am
sure you would do your bussiness a great service if you would revamp the way
you write your adds.

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From: ALLAN KENNEDY                          Number: 1640
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 07/06/93  4:10p
Subj: Star Vector                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jerry don't be afraid to order from Mike Shannon ! I have ordered around $250
worth of cd's in the last three months. His service has benn excellent. I had
one bad cd in the bunch He replaced it at once no questions asked. As far as
prices go he matched or beat every lower price that that I knew of. By the way
I am in Va. and have no conection what so ever with him.

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From: JIM TAYLOR                             Number: 1641
  To: CHARLES ADKINS                           Date: 07/06/93  3:31p
Subj: Cd trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CA>*** Quoting Howard Malkiel to All dated 06-28-93 ***
CA>> I recently purchased the new Digital Dreams CD, and although it it s
CA>> great CD, I thought it was the McHenry type (XXX), and this one is
CA>> R rated. If anyone out there would like to trade an XXX for this
CA>> one, please let me know. Thanks.
CA>[------------------------- End of Quote --------------------------]

CA>Uuuhhh... Kinda Off topic, Ain't it?
CA>--- T.A.G. 2.6e4 Beta
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How is it off topic???????????? In a CDrom sale/trade echo.

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From: WESLEY H. BIGJOE                       Number: 1642
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/06/93 10:58p
Subj: Re: New adult cd                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> KW>            ***   WILD WOMEN Volume 1    ***
 
 
> Any idea what street prices will be yet?
> --- FreeMail 1.07b
> * Origin: The Bit Bucket * Houston, Tx * 713/496-9670 * (1:106/9670)
 
Hello I am intersted in the new Adult C Can you questions!
1. how many files are on it!
2. How meny file ares on it!
3. is there a files.BBS in each file area/DIR!
 
Please respond to P.C. Bigjoe BBS!! 1:105/1002
 
Wesley H. Bigjoe
 
... This message is made of 100% recyclede lectrons!
... Don't forget P.C. Bigjoe has the latest in 1993 files on 2 CD-ROM
... Over 20,000 files in 140 file areas ready for D/L request -=FREE =-
... Just call (503)254-5080 where wating for you!! 

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From: WADE NORTON                            Number: 1643
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/06/93 12:53p
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Mike!

05 Jul 93, Mike Shannon writes to Jerry Mickish:

 MS> if you refuse a COD on me.  I admit this is my one weakness (if you
 MS> want to call it that), and I do tend to become somewhat "agitated"
 MS> when I go to the trouble to ship a package on the strength of a
 MS> promise to pay, only to have it kicked back.  Oh well, I'm working on

No need to work on it!  Why should you enjoy allowing others to shaft ya?

 MS> In short, if you treat me fairly, I'll be more than happy to respond
 MS> likewise, and then some!  Don't hesitate to call if there is anything
 MS> at all I can help you with.

I'll support that statement!  As a satisfied customer!
Mike we appreciate your services...
Wade

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From: WADE NORTON                            Number: 1644
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/06/93 12:56p
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Mike!

05 Jul 93, Mike Shannon writes to Bob Jackson:

 BJ>> Personally, I've never had *any* problems with Starvector. I expect
 BJ>> to do add'l business with them in the future.

 MS> Thanx ya old softie.  I just had a CD pressed with just your VISA #
 MS> on it so I'll never lose it.  8)  Gimme a call if you need anything.

Now that's a CD I'd be interested in buying.  How much do you want for it?
(g)

Wade

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From: STEVE PHILLIPS                         Number: 1645
  To: DENNIS STERNER                           Date: 07/06/93 11:42p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Dennis Sterner to All <=-

 DS> I have the following CD-ROM discs for sale:
 DS> 3.  National Geographic Mammals - $20
 DS> 
 DS> Shipping is additional.  Leave message here or call 717-637-2972.

 I'll take the National Geographic Mammals, if you still have it.
 Let me know where to send check, and what you need for shipping.

 Steve Phillips
 704-374-2933

 
... 4am? Already? Oh no, not again!!
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From: STEVE PHILLIPS                         Number: 1646
  To: HENRY ARIAS                              Date: 07/06/93 11:46p
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Henry Arias to All <=-

 HA> I have a Windows CD-ROM for sale, it is called the Electronic
 HA> Library of Art. I have had it for about one months and it Works well
 HA> under  Windows 3.1 with a fast CD unit and video card. I paid $79.00

 Is this Renaissance artists only, or does it include a wider range
 of sources?
 
... Ask me about my vow of silence.
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From: STEVE PHILLIPS                         Number: 1647
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/06/93 11:55p
Subj: Secret Weapons                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have an opened but unused

Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe.

Too complex for my taste. I'll sell it for $20.
Reply here or call 704-374-2933.
 
... A day without sunshine is like night.
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From: TERRY SCHREIBER                        Number: 1648
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/07/93 12:51a
Subj: ANNOUNCEMENT                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you are wholesale then how can you retail? Are you going to supply dealers
and then compete against them? You will not find very many dealers that will
buy from you under those terms in fact you will drive them to the competition.
Terry Schreiber
Sales Manager
Minitronics Canada Ltd.

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 1649
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/07/93 11:31a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a copy of 7th Guest that I would like to trade for CD's. If you have
anything you no longer need, and would like to have this fantastic CD, leave me
a message and maybe we can make a deal!

Michael Sells


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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 1650
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 07/06/93  4:52p
Subj: Re: Night Owl's #9 $29                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Dang! Where were you a couple of days ago...Oh well, can I get a price
> list?
HI Chris,
Generaly I don't like to announce the products until they are in our hands.
Next time you can check with me :-) TTYL
 
Groupware 

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1651
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 07/06/93  7:47p
Subj: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE:                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Dave!

Sunday July 04 1993, Dave Perkovich writes to Bob Hall:

 BH>> 10 line limit on ads, please.

 BH>> Bob Hall
 BH>> CDROM Echo Moderator.

 DP> What happened to Tim?

Haven't you ever heard of the movie, "Trading Places?"  ;-)


... Don't blame me... I voted for Bush!

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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 1652
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 07/07/93 11:58a
Subj: Re: Starvector                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

yes i do know where mark. its GROUPWARE and NIGHTOWL 9 not 8 is 25 bux.
i think that might even be about 22% wouldn't you say?
heres his number if you doubt me, i have a recipt to prove it!

GROUPWARE
(206)-472-1400
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 1653
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 07/07/93 12:03p
Subj: $$$                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I did ask the Ups man to come back. he was in a hurry, and    the fact
that my check was not acceptable offended me personally.
i wish to drop this subject ..........
bubba
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 1654
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/07/93 12:17p
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

i seen that mike shannon is selling nightowl 9 for $37.00
tell me is that extorsion or price fixing?

I just bought NIGHTOWL 9 for    $25.  from groupware...
the number is  (206)-472-1400 call and see for yourself!

mitsumi internals for $175. complete..........

he claims the lowest prices available.....MIKE you had better  drop
that $37. price tag to $24.95 if you want to be the lowest price guy.
bubba
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1655
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 07/07/93  4:18p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CDRoms for sale:

       Sherlock Holmes 1            $15.00
       Family Doctor                $25.00
(BETA) OS/2 Professional Dev Kit    $25.00
       Murmurs of Earth             $30.00
       C Users Group                $30.00
       Hobbes OS/2                  $15.00

Prices do not include Shipping, which is $3.50.
C.O.D. add $5.00.  For more info contact:

       Eric Bravick
       14014 Halstead Ct. Apt #408
       Tampa, FL. 33613
       (813) 979-1323 (Voice)
       (813) 977-5212 (BBS)
       Netmail 1:377/53.0

If you would like, just add up what you want, add shipping, and send a
check with a list of what you want.  Money orders are faster because
I don't have to wait for checks to clear.


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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 1656
  To: ROBERT LEDERMAN                          Date: 07/06/93  9:20a
Subj: Oxford English Dictionary               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Robert:

In a msg of <Saturday June 26 1993>, Robert Lederman writes to All:

 RL> Does anybody know where to get the Oxford English Dictionary on CD-ROM?
 RL> I had heard that it is quite expensive.

     Just a note:  the OED is available in text form (yes, I'm suggesting you
buy a book, and not a disk) in a compact format.  Compact format does NOT mean
that it is abridged, just that the text is quite tiny and requires the
magnifying glass which comes with the Compact OED to read easily.  A minor
inconvenience, but as it only costs about $250-300 American, it's worth it so
long as the CD-ROM OED is so expensive (can't remember what the cd-rom version
actually costs, but it's quite a bit and only a savings if you compare it to
the 20 volume version of the OED).


Tyler A. Wunder

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1657
  To: GORDON CRAIG                             Date: 07/08/93  7:55a
Subj: cd-rom case                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


GC> I am looking for an external cd-rom case to house 6 Chinon
 GC> cds-435 units rather then purchase six external cdx-435
 GC> externals. The case must have a power supply , fan , and
 GC> scsi-centronics port on the rear of the cab- inet...can anybody
 GC> help me out?
  
 My external cases house 4 units.  They are $25 and the power
 supplies are $25.  I have a case for 2 units that is only 10 but
 it has no space for a power supply.  205-824-2552
 
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From: ERICK GROWCOCK                         Number: 1658
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/07/93  3:05a
Subj: Sony CD-Rom for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    Lets see, Cd-Rom titles included:

    MicroSoft BookShelf (1991)
    Languages of the World
    Mixed-Up mother goose
    U.S. Atlas
    National Geographic Mammals

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From: DUNCAN MARKLEY                         Number: 1659
  To: CRAIG MOSER                              Date: 07/07/93  5:58a
Subj: MAC CDs FOR $ALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CM > AMUG BBS in a BOX VII  -  $40
CM > GIGA-ROM V.4  -  $50

Craig, do these have the file listings on them in some sort of format so
they can be used on a PC based system?  (Some of us out here support the
Mac with DOS machines!)  Thanks

Duncan
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From: MICHAEL GIUNTOLI                       Number: 1660
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/07/93 12:45a
Subj: CD ROM SPEED VS. BBS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        I was looking into getting the 6 disc pioneer mini changer
 the access time on it is 600ms and the transfer rate is 153kb per
second. I wanna use it on a bbs. Can anyone that either has this drive or know
anything about the speed tell me if its fast enough so theres practically 0
wait state or close to it. What would be recommended. I know about the toshiba
200ms access time and all which is over $400.00. But its just going to be
online for transfers so i need to know.. Help.. Enough said already.. Lemme
know         
                        HELP.................................
                                        
                        Michael
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1661
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/06/93  1:43a
Subj: <sheesh!> how's *this*?                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION             PRICE

 CDU        CDU - (Utility) CD-ROM disks                 0.00
 CDUCDCAD37 CDU - CD CAD 3.7                            35.00
 CDUSPEEDWA CDU - CD Speedway                           65.00
 CDUKODAKPH CDU - Kodak Photo CD                        25.00
 CDULIGHTNI CDU - Lightning                             56.00
 CDUMPCWIZA CDU - MPC Wizard                            22.00
 CDUTEMPRAA CDU - Tempra Access                         24.00



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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1662
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/06/93  1:43a
Subj: Let me try again.....                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION             PRICE

 CDX        CDX - (Accessories) CD-ROM                   0.00
 CDXCADDY   CDX - CD-ROM Caddy                           5.00
 CDXJEWEL   CDX - Jewel Case                             2.00
 CDXMEDIABX CDX - Media Box Storage Cases (holds 13)    15.00



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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1663
  To: VIKKI CLAYTON                            Date: 07/06/93  8:33p
Subj: scsi controller needed                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey thanks for the help, I already did some research and bought the a
PAS 16 and love it.  I had that thing hooked up in a just a few seconds
and was off to multimedia land.  Thank you again, Chad.


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From: EDWARD DELGROSSO                       Number: 1664
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/06/93  9:43p
Subj: Cds = cd's, shareware [a]               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Jul 04 23:56>, Patrick Rosenheim of 1:101/330 writes:

 PR> PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600 
 PR> Mastercard & Visa accepted. Posted on 07/04/93, @ 23:42.

 PR>  CDSPCMEDIC CDS - PC Medic                              30.00

      Can you or anyone else tell me anything about this disk????  I'm
interested if it is medical shareware.

ED

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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 1665
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/07/93 11:16p
Subj: Multimedia "Kit" for sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks everyone for all of the responses I had on the CD-ROM drive and disks,
but I've decided to sell all of it at the same time for anyone who might be
interested.  Below is the list of items to be sold all together as a kit.

The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia-DOS (Video, Sound, Text)
VGA Spectrum - GIF's, FLI's, Demos, Games
1992 Guinness Disc of Records: Multimedia Version (Windows or DOS)
Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective I (Video Mystery)
The Original Shareware 1992 (8,000 Shareware Programs)
Phoenix 2.0 (Shareware)
Nautilus Introduction
Software Jukebox - LINKS Golf, Faces...Tris III Jetfighter, Berenstein Bears
                Fun With Colors, 50 Trial versions of programs
Sample This!! - Demo CD
CD-ROM Sampler - Demo CD

Mitsumi Drive:  350ms seek time
                150kb/sec data transfer
Sound Blaster Pro: Card, Software, Midi Adapter and Manuals

Make any offers - I'm pretty reasonable!  If interested, call (614) 363-8201
or leave a message here.  I'm looking for an offer around $600, but who knows? 
Thanks.


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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 1666
  To: CHAD PATTERSON                           Date: 07/07/93 11:31p
Subj: FOR TRADE FOR ROM DRIVE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Chad!!
     I may have just what you're looking for.  I'm selling a Mitsumi drive and
Soundblaster Pro with ten CD-ROMs for $600 or best offer.  Check out my message
and call me at (614) 363-8201 or leave a message for me here. Thanks.

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From: JERRY CORNELIUS                        Number: 1667
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 07/06/93  7:07p
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

04 Jul 93 02:42, Michael Kelly wrote to Bubba Therrien:

 MK> alleged poor business transaction.  Your command of the English language
 MK> and its appropriate grammar are weak at best.  Rather than further your

Surely you don't claim to invalidate his content because of it's presentation.
That's not a valid way to evaluate information.

 BT>> check around  first.................bubba

 MK>     I suggest that you keep your whining to yourself.  If your problem

He was asked for his opinion (we all were, the message was addressed to All).

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From: PATRICK SHEN                           Number: 1668
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/05/93  6:11p
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have following CD-ROMs for sale.  All CD-ROMs are in New Condition. Add $3
for UPS or Priority Mail shipping.

Shareware Bonanza.  3 CD set of Sharewares.  Over 20,000 programs.  More
than 3 Gigabytes of files.  Largest collection ever!  Every category
covered.  Great for BBS use. (BBS ready)         --------------  $45.00

ChessMaster 3000  MPC.  The best chess program in the world.  Moves spoken
in five different notations.  Photo realistic boards and pieces in 256 color
3D.  Excellent for beginner or master.  With all original manuals and
Registration card.                    -------------  $27.00

Wing Commander/Ultima VI.  Get 2 award winning games on one excellent CD
Space simulation and Adventure.  With all manuals and Registration card.
                                             ------------------  $33.00

Mixed-up Mother Goose MPC.  Sierra combines master storytelling with the
classic rhymes to create this children's adventure game.  Children learn
early reading skills and get introduced to the world of computers.
                                          ---------------------  $24.00

Shareware Overload.  Collection of 6100+ Sharewares.  550 MB of Games,
Windows, Business, Sound/Music and much more.      ------------  $20.00

Deathstar Arcade Battles.  The most exciting arcade action and other games
of all time.                           ------------------  $18.00

SelectWare System.  The Ultimate Software Demo System.   ------  $10.00

If you are interested, please reply here to contact me at E-mail address
below.

Patrick Shen America Online: Pat Shen CompuServe: 72072,3612 InterNet:
Pat Shen#aol.com or 72072,3612@compuserve.com
                                                       
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From: RAY LEUNG                              Number: 1669
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/07/93  9:38p
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mr. Shannon, I live in Canada and have a few questions:

1)  Do you take orders from Canada?
2)  Do you take Visa or Mastercard from Canada?
3)  Do you ship to a PO Box, I've got a PO Box and my Visa and Mastercard
bills go there too.
4)  How do you ship to Canada (USPS)?
5)  What are your shipping rates to Canada?
6)  Does your toll free line work from Canada?
7)  Do you carry a OS/2 specific CD?

Thanx for any info you can provide.


P.S.  Sorry for asking so many questions at once.

   
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1670
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/07/93  5:00p
Subj: CD SALE!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> Bibles & Religion...$10 
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
     -- I'll take one. 
  
BTW: Did you ever get any Oink-II in stock? 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1671
  To: KEVIN OYAMA                              Date: 07/07/93 12:19p
Subj: NIX PIX 1                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 KO> Curiosity has me interested in having a look at the "controversi  
 KO> NixPix Hot Pix 1 disk; anyone have a copy they'd like to part wi  
 KO> If so, netmail 1:105/38                                           
                                                                       
  
Post a message here (and in CD-ROM) for Chris Conklin. I think he has a 
copy for sale at $50. Good luck. 
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From: DEAN PRICE                             Number: 1672
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 07/07/93  8:18a
Subj: Adult cd                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > DK>I was interested in purchasing an Adult CD but I have no idea which ones
  >are good and which aren't.  I suppose that will also depend on a person
  >taste..  My main interest in in Lingerie, are there an ROMS that contain a
  >good number of those types of pics?  I have also seen alot of messages
  >about Digital Dreams and Digital Dreams - The MvHenry Collection, has
  >anyoine seen BOTH of these and have a favorite?

I have Storm 1, It is very nice. A wide variety of GIF's and .gl and .dl.  It
also has an assortment of .fli's along with around 600 various BBS programs and
doorware...

As for Digital Dreams, I don't know personally, but a friend of mine ( Rich
Jackson ) has it. He said it is very good. Both Mine and his are BBS ready....
He does recieve this echo. or you can get him at 1:3817/12..

Good luck.

         Deano

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1673
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/09/93  8:48a
Subj: OUR TRADE                               Refer: 5039
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Please don't give out my phone number on a national echo. It's unlist
-> for a real good reason.

If you can't back up your opinions with a voice phone number, then don't
post.  What are you hiding?

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1674
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/09/93  8:56a
Subj: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE:                  Refer: 5096
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->  DP> What happened to Tim?
->
-> Haven't you ever heard of the movie, "Trading Places?"  ;-)

I'm here...

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1675
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/09/93  9:12a
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: 5099
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> i seen that mike shannon is selling nightowl 9 for $37.00
-> tell me is that extorsion or price fixing?

Bubba, It's called good business.  Once a dealer is established and has
a reputation for providing good service, he can charge a premium - a
premium that his customers are willing to pay in exchange for good
service.  Businesses survive by working with high margins... The only
way to get high margins is by offering good service.

If you don't need good service, then don't buy from him... There's a
zillion $1.00-margin-fly-by-nighters out there who I'm sure can give
you a better price.

I've never cut anyone's feed to this echo, but you're pushing me to the
limit.  Stop whining.  This is your last chance, bubba.  EOT.

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1676
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/09/93  9:04a
Subj: Let me try again.....                   Refer: 5107
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->  PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION             PRICE
->
->  CDX        CDX - (Accessories) CD-ROM                   0.00
->  CDXCADDY   CDX - CD-ROM Caddy                           5.00
->  CDXJEWEL   CDX - Jewel Case                             2.00
->  CDXMEDIABX CDX - Media Box Storage Cases (holds 13)    15.00

Good job, Patrick... I can read your ads!  ;)

tim
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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 1677
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/07/93  7:32p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I everyone,  Does anyone have a CD full of *.MOD's, *.WAV's, *.VOC's ect?

If you do please contact me

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 1678
  To: RICH JACKSON                             Date: 07/07/93 11:13a
Subj: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE:                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RJ>  Bob, you'd better make that TWO cups of coffee...

You got that!  Thanks for the reply.
BOB

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 1679
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 07/07/93 11:14a
Subj: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE:                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DP>What happened to Tim?

He is still around, I wandered off into the wrong echo.
BOB
:-)

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 1680
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 07/07/93 12:35p
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MJ>Until then, I'll stick with the *ESTABLISHED*, *REPUTABLE* vendors on the
MJ>board such as Mike Shannon (StarVector) and Boris O'.

Seeing the "Boris O'" jogged something in my brain.  Nothing to do with
the current dealer flaming or dealer bashing, but it does deal with
Boris.  Boris is probably going to kill me, but I was looking back in
some of the '90 CDROM Echo messages just a few minutes ago, and saw a
message from Boris.  He was wanting someone to help him find a CDROM
that would run under his Telegard BBS.  Back in '90 Boris was quite.

Just had to tell this on Boris.

BOB
:-)

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From: JIM OXFORD                             Number: 1681
  To: BOB HALL                                 Date: 07/07/93  4:18p
Subj: Re: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE:              Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93  7:38p                       Private: No 

 > DP>What happened to Tim?
 > 
 > He is still around, I wandered off into the wrong echo.
 > BOB
 > :-)
 > 
  And that ain't easy with one foot nailed to the floor!

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From: KEVIN DEW                              Number: 1682
  To: STEVE PHILLIPS                           Date: 07/07/93 11:33p
Subj: Secret Weapons                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

What does this disc have multimedia? Or is this just another get richer disc
where they just throw a game onto a CD? If it's a big improvement, I might be
interested.

Kevin


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From: CLIF DANIEL                            Number: 1683
  To: ERYN BAY                                 Date: 07/08/93  1:42a
Subj: Microsoft Office 3.0                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you still have the CD, I have some titles to trade. Or if you wish
to sell outright. How much ?
      
I have :
  Comtons Encyclopedia MPC ( still sealed )
  Lotus 123 MPC CD  ( still sealed )
  Action Authoring MPC ( still sealed )
  Kings Quest 5  ( still sealed )
  Ultima/ Wing Commander Combo CD 
  I have other titles also if interested in any let me know.

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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 1684
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/07/93 12:29a
Subj: Cd drives, software, &c.                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Your listing of discs is still messed up.


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1685
  To: WADE NORTON                              Date: 07/08/93  1:25a
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WN>I'll support that statement!  As a satisfied customer!
WN>Mike we appreciate your services...
WN>Wade

Thanks for the kind words, Wade.  Gimme a call sometime.

Bye,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1686
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93  1:25a
Subj: BETTER THAN STREET ATLAS?               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD

TITLE:  Precision Mapping

DESCRIPTION:  A complete, detailed map of the United States, with search,
edit, draw, and print capabilities.  ZOOM in on any city, right down to
the zip code, area code, or even ADDRESS!  Look up addresses, measure
distances, plan travel routes, print laser-quality maps, and clip images
for import to other programs!  All in a user-friendly environment!

SPECIAL FEATURES:  Full CAD features with draw, edit, and control over
all presentation aspects, including text, alignment, color, line width,
etc.  OUTPUT to file (raster or vector), screen, dot matrix printer,
laser printer, or HPGL plotter.  DYNAMIC ZOOM in/out/all.  Window,
pan, scale, to any address, city, zip, or area code.  CLIP all or any
part of an image to a .PCX file for import into your favorite word
processor or DTP program.

FREEBIE:  Includes the latest edition of the American Business Phonebook
with over 10 million business listings, absolutely FREE!

REQUIREMENTS:  EGA or higher monitor, DOS 4.0+, 550K free RAM, 2MB of
expanded memory, 10MB of (temporary) hard drive space, and any ISO9660
CD-ROM drive.  Mouse recommended.

PRICE:  $88

Mike sez . . .
"If you think Street Atlas was great, wait til you see this one!  Better,
more elaborate features, and it runs under plain ol' DOS!"

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 BBS: 509-457-0206 COMING SOON!!  ONLINE ORDERING & CD-ROM FILE LISTINGS!!!
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA þ MC þ AMEX þ DISCOVER þ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs þ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1687
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93  1:25a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 July 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 7/08
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                                   1 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........15.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........58.00
 7th Guest.....................54.00    MIDI Music Shop...............31.00
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........24.50
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Monarch Notes.................64.00
 American Business Phonebk 1...18.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 American Business Phonebk 2...28.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...43.00
 Amiga AB20....................16.50    Monster Media 93 (New!).......33.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......27.50    Mother of All Clipart.........24.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....27.50    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....30.00
 Audubon's Birds...............26.00    National Business Directory...39.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............26.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    National Parks................32.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 4.2.................22.00
 Bible Library.................31.00    Night Owl 5.0.................23.00
 Bibles & Religion.............14.00    Night Owl 6.2.................24.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 7.0.................25.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl 8.0.................29.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....15.00    Night Owl 9.0 (In stock!).....37.00
 Business Backgrounds..........30.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Business Master...............20.00    North American Fax Book.......49.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    Ocean Digital Imagery.........34.50
 California Collection.........17.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...25.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    Our Solar System..............14.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....29.50
 CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-SIG #12....................28.00
 CD Winbox (New!)..............29.00    PC Gameroom...................28.00
 CD Grab Bag...................19.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Phethean's Shareware #1.......18.50
 CIA World Fact Book...........24.00    Phoenix 3.0...................15.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Pier 1........................29.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....54.00    Pier 2 (In stock!)............39.00
 Clipart Galore................30.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Clipart Goliath...............14.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........29.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....24.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............14.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......88.00
 Complete Bookshop.............14.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........125.00
 Composer Quest................37.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency...109.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........34.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....79.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....79.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Conan the Cimmerian...........35.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Consumer Information Disc.....39.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........29.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Crossword Cracker.............24.50    Reader's Library..............31.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Reference Library.............27.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....37.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......14.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...43.00
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....28.50
 Desktop Bookshop (New!).......28.50    Secret of Monkey Island.......25.50
 Dictionaries & Languages......14.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...28.00
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Dinosaur Adventure............34.00    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 DTP Pro.......................28.50    Shareware Online..............28.00
 Eagle Eye Shareware (New!)....25.00    Shareware Overload............14.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Studio 1............20.00
 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Shareware Studio 2 (New!).....25.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 BBS: 509-457-0206 COMING SOON!!  ONLINE ORDERING & CD-ROM FILE LISTINGS!!!
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA þ MC þ AMEX þ DISCOVER þ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs þ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1688
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93  1:25a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 2/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Empire Clipart................29.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......28.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...25.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound (New!)..22.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Find-It Webster...............39.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Font Master 1.................19.00    So Much Shareware 2...........29.50
 Font Master 2.................28.00    Software Vault 1..............25.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....27.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..29.00
 Game Arena (New!).............15.00    Sound Sensations..............14.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    SoundWAV......................29.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Space Adventure...............33.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    Space Quest IV................25.00
 Giga Games (New!).............24.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Global Explorer...............94.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Street Atlas USA..............88.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Super CD 2....................29.00
 Grolier's MM Ency. 5.0........49.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....18.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency. 1.5.......49.00    Super Games For Windows.......18.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...27.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.50
 Hacker Chronicles.............27.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.50
 Ham Radio 3.0.................14.00    Technotools...................14.00
 Hamware 1993 (New!)...........29.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..32.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 House of Games................26.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Illustrated Holy Bible........49.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Too Many Typefonts............14.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Top 2000+ Shareware...........24.00
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Total Baseball................29.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Trump Castle..................33.00
 Jets & Props..................31.50    U.S. & World Atlas............29.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........15.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................27.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 King's Quest V................25.00    VGA Spectrum 1................15.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    VGA Spectrum 2................25.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........27.50    Visions of Saturn (New!)......25.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    Vital Signs...................39.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....15.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Library of the Future #1......54.50    Window Master.................20.00
 Lion's Share..................27.00    Windoware.....................14.00
 Loom..........................25.00    Windows 1993..................28.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........39.00    Windows Shareware Gold........37.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Wing Commander II Deluxe......58.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Magnum One Shareware..........27.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......25.00
 Magnum Sight & Sound..........29.00    WizPak........................17.00
 Manhole.......................36.50    World Atlas MPC...............27.00
 Marketing Master 1992.........19.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............29.00    World Traveler (New!).........18.00
 Mega Clipart (New!)...........29.00    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......58.00    World Vision 3-Pak (New!).....47.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 BBS: 509-457-0206 COMING SOON!!  ONLINE ORDERING & CD-ROM FILE LISTINGS!!!
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

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From: JOHN HIEB                              Number: 1689
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/07/93 10:25a
Subj: Hot Pix 3                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello,
I have a BRAND NEW Adult XXX Hot PIX 3 disk that I would like to trade
for something in the rated "PG13 or R" area.  I would like to trade it
for something in the "Digital Dreams" realm.

If you would like to trade or buy it for $30 please call my BBS and
leave me a message.  The number is: (503) 659-4603.

John.


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1690
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/06/93  5:57p
Subj: CD-Rom Prices                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Computer Works is now offering the following CD-Rom prices: 
 
Up All Night..............$21           Computer Works 
Night Owl 9...............$39           CD-Rom Sales! 
Shareware Studio 2........$24           (205) 793-4481 Voice 
Software Vault 2..........$29           (205) 671-0092 BBS 14.4k 
CD Winbox.................$29 
Digital Dreams (Ero Tek)..$32           Visa & Mastercard Accepted 
 
                                                       Jim... 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1691
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/06/93  5:52p
Subj: CD-Rom Prices                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Computer Works is now offering the following CD-Rom prices: 
 
Up All Night..............$21           Computer Works 
Night Owl 9...............$39           CD-Rom Sales! 
Shareware Studio 2........$24           (205) 793-4481 Voice 
Software Vault 2..........$29           (205) 671-0092 BBS 14.4k 
CD Winbox.................$29 
Digital Dreams (Ero Tek)..$32           Visa & Mastercard Accepted 
 
                                                       Jim... 
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From: HENRY ARIAS                            Number: 1692
  To: STEVE PHILLIPS                           Date: 07/08/93  6:30a
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

SP> -=> Quoting Henry Arias to All <=-
SP>
SP> HA> I have a Windows CD-ROM for sale, it is called the Electronic
SP> HA> Library of Art. I have had it for about one months and it Works w
SP> HA> under  Windows 3.1 with a fast CD unit and video card. I paid $79
SP>
SP> Is this Renaissance artists only, or does it include a wider range
SP> of sources?
        It included a variety of works from paintings to sculptures to 
monumental buildings, etc.... Later <Henry>

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From: DAVID BUCKINGHAM                       Number: 1693
  To: TOM MENG                                 Date: 07/07/93  6:59a
Subj: HPLINK                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TRIED USINH THE HPLINK UPLOAD PROTOCALL AND IT DOESN'T GIVE ME ENOUGH TIME ON
YOUR END TO ENTER THE FILE NAMES. ALSO, THERE SEEMES TO BE A FEW PAUSES
ESPICALLY ON SIGN ON WHERE THERE IS A BLANK SCREEN AT THE PAUSE. CAN'T YOU TAKE
OUT THE EXTRA PAUSES? LET ME KNOW HOW YOU LIKE THE GIF'S. I AM ADDING A TEXT
FILE WITH ALL THE DESCRIPTION IN EACH ZIP.
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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 1694
  To: CHRIS CONKLIN                            Date: 07/08/93  8:15a
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Got the CD you sent me - Hot Pics.
It sure satisfied my request for kink!
Although I can't get my BBS to recognize it yet, and it locks up every time I
run start.bat, I do believe that could be me - computerarilly disadvantaged.
I want to thank you for your business-like handling of a bad situation.

Vikki

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1695
  To: WESLEY H. BIGJOE                         Date: 07/08/93 12:28p
Subj:  New adult cd                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 WH> > KW>            ***   WILD WOMEN Volume 1    ***                 
 WH>                                                                   
 WH>                                                                   
 WH> > Any idea what street prices will be yet?                        
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 WH> > * Origin: The Bit Bucket * Houston, Tx * 713/496-9670 * (1:106  
 WH> >  PATH: 106/9670 113 15 116 13/13 396/1 209/209 105/30 376 1002  
 WH>                                                                   
 WH> Hello I am intersted in the new Adult C Can you questions!        
 WH> 1. how many files are on it!                                      
 WH> 2. How meny file ares on it!                                      
 WH> 3. is there a files.BBS in each file area/DIR!                    
                                                                       
  
You've got the wrong guy! This disc is being published out of Australia. 
I sent the note to them asking about street prices. So far, I haven't 
heard back. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1696
  To: STEVE LIN                                Date: 07/08/93 12:30p
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SL> used. It's more like somebody had scanned the stuff from somethi  
 SL> irregular newspaper stock instead of from photo paper... that's   
 SL> thing I can come up with.                                         
                                                                       
  
I didn't have a better word so I used "grainy". Someone else said 
"scratchy" and that's appropo as well. I also use the Stealth card but 
with a Nanao monitor.  I never suspected either of them - too many other 
GIFs from other CDs are razor sharp. 
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 1697
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/07/93 12:54p
Subj: CHANGES                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To everyone who purchased CD-ROMs from W.W.I. CD-ROM:

    Please note that as of July 19th, I will be representing
CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA. They have a selection of
100+ titles, lower prices, better service, and its a
100% Canadian owned company! I look forward to continuing to
serve you there! In the meanwhile, I will not be accepting
any more orders for WWI products, especially since I'll be
gone the week before in order to take in Comdex Canada.

    Vince
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From: BOB KELLY                              Number: 1698
  To: SULTAN QAMAR                             Date: 07/07/93  7:46a
Subj: Here We Are                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message originally to All, Sultan Qamar stated:

SQ>    Cheers BBS in beautiful Cambridge, Ontario, Canada is
SQ>    proud to be carrying this echo !!

And I'm so proud you told us about it...

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From: BOB KELLY                              Number: 1699
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/07/93  8:04a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>MS> I have a copy of The 7th Guest I would like to trade for other CD's. I
MS>MS> willconsider all trades. What have you got???

I have the following:

Phoenix 3.0 Shareware NightOwl Business Applications Disk
MicroSoft Small Business Consultant

Interested?

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From: BOB KELLY                              Number: 1700
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/07/93  8:27a
Subj: Need some more Sony internal CDROM drives  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a BBS need for two more Sony CDROM drives (internal, 535's are what I
have now).

I would have only needed one, but a certain person (Scott Peterson) reneged on
a deal after I took the time (on my dime) to negotiate a price and sent him a
check for a Sony drive he had. Then I get my check back, saying the drive is
"not currently available". This is not mentioned for 'sour grapes' purposes,
but as a "heads up" for other people who may consider having dealings with
him. 
Anyway, my standard offer is repeated as follows: I will pay around $100 for
each Sony CDROM internal drive you have. I have purchased my last two for $100
apiece, so I don't want to go too far above that. 
Please echo here if you have one that you will sell for around $100 (and will
follow through on), and post your phone number.  I will call you on my dime to
discuss.

Thanks.

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From: DONNA MC LAUGHLIN                      Number: 1701
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/07/93  9:50p
Subj: Catalog for your products               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike:

    After all the good things I've been reading about you from others in
this echo, I'm interested!!!  (Can I join the 10% Off Club too? ;>) )

    Do you have a catalog available listing titles, prices, etc.?  I could
probably show it to about a dozen people in my area and hopefully gather a
decent size order together at one shot.

    Please send me netmail at 1:273/80 with details or information on how I
could get in touch with you.

    Thanks in advance.

Donna

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From: COLIN TUTTLE                           Number: 1702
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/07/93 11:37p
Subj: UP ALL NIGHT CD Review                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

UP ALL NIGHT

PUBLISHER: BHI, Inc.
Retail: $39
Telephone: 405-672-1708

Review:

There are a lot of Shareware CD-Roms available.  Some advertise a gigabyte
of programs, others advertise 10,000 or some equally amazing number of
programs.  One of UP ALL NIGHT's strong selling point is its ability to
utilize every one of the files contained on the disk.
It has an excellent search engine that makes hunting for a file a simple task,
plus it has an added twist, the menu talks to you.  If you have ever found
a Shareware CD Rom to be intimidating or difficult to use, you should
check out UP ALL NIGHT.

Up All Night is a CD-Rom created for the end-user.  It has a VERY easy to use
search engine, that with a Soundblaster or compatible card actually talks to
you, telling you the commands you just selected.  There is even a brief
explanation of Shareware, urging you to register any program you find on the
disk, that you can listen on your Sound Card.

Normally I don't like the interfaces that are put on shareware CD-Roms.  On
most CD's I can navigate much better in DOS than I can using an often
clunky interface.  This is not the case with UP ALL NIGHT.  The interface
makes locating files easier than locating a file on your local BBS.
You can search by file names, or by words in the file descriptions. The
exceptional part of this is the speed in which files are located.  Searches
take literally seconds versus minutes on other Shareware Roms.

Another very well thought out feature of the UP ALL NIGHT DISK can be found
when you print a file list. When I get a new Shareware CD ROM, I like to print
out the list of various directories, so I can share the lists with friends
who might be interested in some of the files.
Normally, I have to carefully collate and staple each file directory with
its descriptions, as well as labeling each stack so I can find the correct
files to copy.  This isn't the case with UP ALL NIGHT.  I can print all the
directories I am interested in, because it puts all of the path information
with the file name and description  to make it easy to locate later.  The
directory also has a Date toggle, where you can either list the files date
in your listing, or to leave it out to conserve space.  For the sysop, or
the die-hard- I don't like interfaces, there are FILES.BBS listing in each
of the disks subdirectories.

When you configure the UP ALL NIGHT CD Rom, you can tell it your favorite
GIF viewer with path so you can view GIFs without exiting the search engine.
It's awful handy to have full file descriptions as well as the resolution
of each GIF before you view it.

OK, so far all I have discussed is the interface, the search engine for the
CD Rom, which in my opinion is excellent, and was created by someone who has
seen the problems with other Shareware disks.  It is a vast improvement of
other shareware disks which are just thrown together groups of shareware
files with little or no organization.

The disk was pressed in 1993 and there are a lot of 1993 files on the rom.
I think the total file count was something like 5200 files.  There are
games, GIF files that I've not seen before, as well as a wide selection
of VOC files, which can be played right from the interface.
The author wisely saved the VOC files as VOC file, not in a compressed format
such that you would have to decompress before using.

There really is something for everyone on the disk... clip art, Magazines/
Newsletters, device drivers, demos of commercial programs, GIFs, Games,
Databases, Utilities, Sound Card files,the list goes on and on.  There are
even copies of the Fidonet CD Rom Echo area from 1990.

UP ALL NIGHT is an excellent disk.  If you are like me, you will be up all
night playing with it when you get a copy.




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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 1703
  To: JIM OXFORD                               Date: 07/08/93  8:07a
Subj: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JO>  And that ain't easy with one foot nailed to the floor!

Just how long did you laugh before you entered this message? Hmmmmmmm
How ya doin yaoldfart?  Gimme a call.

BOB
:-)

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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 1704
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/09/93  9:02p
Subj: Re: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS!   NOW IN STOCK - THE LATEST AND GREATEST
> NIGHT OWL OF ALL . . . . . . . . .
> . . . N  I  G  H  T      O  W  L
> +--------+                           |   |        +=======+
> PRICE:   | $37.00 |                       ====|===|====    ||     ||
> +--------+                           |   |        ||     ||
> ====|===|====    +=======|
> --[ NOW SHIPPING! ]--                   |   |               ||
> ||
> ||
> Get Night Owl 8 . . . . . . . . . for ONLY $25 additional!
 
Howdy, just got a CD-ROM and I like to know more about Night Owl ?
I run a BBS and I am looking for CD's to put online.
Thanks 

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From: DON NELSON                             Number: 1705
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93 12:13a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

My boss wants 7th Guest (he has nothing to do at work).

What is the best price I can get?  He probably wants new.  I've heard that a
certain company here in town has it for $47.00.  I've not verified this, but
it does come from a reliable source in a local echo area.

Thanks,

.dn 
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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 1706
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93  4:14p
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mitsumi internal drive for sale (2mo old) sellin' it just cuz I need the
money right now...no trades.
1 Mitsumi drive 150ms 150kb transfer
controller
1 Toolworks reference library CD
1 World Atlas cd version 2.0
Toolworks Encyclopedia 2.0
Media Clips DEEP VOYAGE CD
Digital Dreams Adult CD
no splitting up.....200.00


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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 1707
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/07/93  7:45a
Subj: FREE CD!!                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >TK> there are over 1000 (out of 5000) filename dups.  Oh well, can't have it

DR>Let's not confuse the issue... Pier 2 was definately out before Night Owl's 
  >v9.0.  So, we certainly can't accuse Greg of "duping" Night Owl's. 
 
 Yeah I know that, they probably just d/l files from the same source. 
 
        ...tim klan 
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From: REN JUST                               Number: 1708
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/06/93  7:35a
Subj: LINUX CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
LINUX AND INTERNET FILES ON CD-ROM
  
LINUX, a UNIX operating system workalike now available
on CD-ROM.  Includes GNU C/C++ compiler, X-Windows,
TCP/IP, sound card support and much more.  Only $49.95.
 
Also CD-ROMs available with source code and applications
from internet servers for DOS, UNIX, Amiga, C and Mac.
Call or write for listing.
 
To receive your LINUX CD-ROM call and order with your
charge card
 
or send $49.95 + $3.00 S/H (CA residents add 7.50% tax) to:
 
Just Computers!
PO Box 751414
Petaluma  CA 94975-1414
  
Voice 707-769-1648
FAX   707-765-2447
 
Internet: rjust@justcomp.com
 
Visa and MasterCard gladly accepted (No surcharges).
 

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 1709
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/08/93  7:08a
Subj: Starvector                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>Wow John, thanks!  And to think I didn't even have to pay you for that
MS>endorsement! <g>  Tell ya what, take 10% off your next order with us

Now you have paid him for his endorsement.

And, as a side effect, destroyed any pretense this echo had toward
objective comments.

 * SLMR 2.1 * 

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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 1710
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 07/09/93  1:08a
Subj: STREET ATLAS USA                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Al,
 I don't have a used copy but how about a new one for $50.00. Give me a
call at 803-481-2276 or net mail me at 1:3647/2. Many Adult CD's in
stock at great prices...

 David McSpadden CD-WORLD "Home of Great Prices"


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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 1711
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93  6:12p
Subj: PC CDs - Magazine Subscriptions         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For great prices and selection on CDs for your PC F'req CSSPCCDS.

Many titles to choose from, including the new NIGHT OWL 9! Credit cards
accepted.

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Low price magazine subscriptions. Almost 900 to choose from. Prices guaranteed
to be the lowest advertised! F'req CSSMAGS.

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For even more items, try our online shopping mall. 517-263-0273 or
517-263-0017.

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1712
  To: BRIAN DHATT                              Date: 07/08/93  9:02a
Subj: Re: CDROM Systems                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=>> Quoting Boris Osadciw to All <=-

 BO>> NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00

>>    Could you give me specs on this drive?  Is it MPC compatible?
>>    Also access time, transfer rate, and SCSI card maker/model.
>>    Thanks!


Sure, no problem !!

This unit is an External true SCSI unit that offers 450ms access time
with 150kps transfer rate. It's Novell, OS/2 and MPC compliant and is
caddless. It's a complete system, which means you get the drive,
comntroller, shielded cable, drivers and manual as well as the full
warrenty and head phones.

Need further assistance, please feel free to call us at 216-225-3263
and we'll be more than happy to help you.

We also carry other major brand name drives as well.

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 1713
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93  2:33a
Subj: Wish List                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm running a BBS and I need to add a CD-ROM and a Shareware Disk.....

I need the most recent in shareware and a CD-ROM drive (preferably new),
that is MPC Compliant and be 480ms or faster....

If you have any offers please let me know or call my BBS directly

                  The Ignoreland BBS
                  Running VBBS 6.10 with a USR HST/DS 14.4 modem
                  Sysop:   J.P. Ladner  (Overlord)
                  (804) 286-4685   (Virginia)

Thanks ahead of time!
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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 1714
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93  8:43p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I Need a CD packed full of recent to new shareware/freeware.....This is
for a BBS.....

I am willing to buy if the price is right or trade for all/some of the
below items:

Complete Wing Commander Library (Both I & II, ALL secret missions for
BOTH, Original disks, DOCS, and Boxes)

60 meg RLL Hard Drive in excellent condition (Full hight)

CD of completely working Demos of Windows programs like micosoft Excel,
word for windows, ect..Many more....1/2 disk is all IBM and the other
half is Macintosh software....ITs called "The Selectware System"

CD The American Business Phone Book....phone numbers and services with
over 9 million business

Castles (original docs, disks, box)

KQIV (original docs, and disks)

Windows 3.1 (Original Docs, Box, and Disks)



If you are interested in the above let me know as I need the Shareware
disk ASAP......or if your interested in just buying any of the above
please leave message here or call my BBS directly :

                        The Ignoreland BBS
                         USR HST/DS
                        (804) 286-4685

                         Running VBBS 6.10A
                         Speeds 1200 - 14.4

J.P.
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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 1715
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93  4:11p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 !!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

             N I G H T   O W L   V E R S I O N   9

                  ***     675+ Meg.      ***
    IN STOCK!     ***   All 1993 Files   ***     IN STOCK!
                  ***    4,955 Files     ***
                  ***  Available: NOW!!  ***

                       ==> $49 <==

Night Owl 9 is getting rave reviews from our customers.  Demand has
been so overwhelming that a 2nd cutting has already been necessary.
This is the BEST, NEWEST, and HOTTEST Shareware CD on the market.

The new disk will sell itself.  The question is: with the buttload of
"me too" dealers in the nets hawking the product, why should you buy
from TCM?  Let me provide some reasons....

1) AVAILABILITY:  We have a *large* quantity of the disks in stock,
     ready to ship.  Orders are turned around with 24 hours.

2) STABILITY:  TCM has been around for over 3 years now.  We have been
     associated with Night Owl since NOPV3!  TCM is not only a dealer
     for Night Owl, but is involved in the preparation and production
     of the disks.  80% of the preparation, file gathering, sorting
     and classifying for v9 was done right here at TCM.

3) SUPPORT:  Because of #2 above, we KNOW the Night Owl disks.  We
     know the files, we know how to install the disk on a BBS and
     in stand-alone mode.  At TCM, Night Owl is not just another CD
     we sell: it is our *primary* product.  We are here to help if
     you have a question or problem.  It is for these reasons that
     Night Owl Publisher, Inc. designated TCM BBS the Official Night
     Owl Support BBS.  No other dealer can make that claim.  We have
     assisted numerous people who bought the disk from other dealers
     only to get a "duh...." response when they called them back with
     a question or problem.

4) VALUE:  We offer the disk at a competitive price.  Previous TCM
     customers recieve a substantial discount on all future Night
     Owl purchases (as well as other CDs and Computer Hardware, plus
     several *new* Night Owl products under development!).

5) PRICE GUARANTEE:  We will meet or beat ANY legitimate advertised
     price for the disk.  Give us the best, verifiable price you have
     gotten and we will match it.  Period.

You may order the disk from us in several ways:

  - Give us a call.  If we aren't there leave a message and we'll get
    back to you.
  - Send check/money order to the address listed below.
    ($49 plus $3 s/h)
  - Call the BBS and use our ORDER door to place a VISA/MC order
    while online.
  - Call the BBS and download NIGHTV9.ZIP.  An order form is included
    in the packet.
  - For COD, send us a fax or call the BBS and leave a message to
    the sysop.  Please provide name/address/phone information.

TCM IS AN AUTHORIZED NIGHT OWL DISTRIBUTOR:  DEALER INQUIRIES WELCOME.

TCM Computing                              (703) 439-8032 Voice
Rt. 2 Box 130                              (703) 439-8237 Fax
Midland, Va.  22728                        (703) 439-3060 BBS
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From: GREGORY MILLS                          Number: 1716
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/07/93  4:53p
Subj: CD's Wanted                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a source of CD Roms for my own collections and have been
thinking of selling as well.  Would appreciate receiving any details you have. 
Unable to reach Comdex due to other commitments.  If you have a catalog would
like a copy.
Send to:  G. Mills
          22 Westchester Place
          Kitchener, On.
          N2B 3M6
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From: GREGORY MILLS                          Number: 1717
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/07/93  4:55p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for a cheap external CD Rom.  If you have one for sale along with any
CD's leave me a message.  Prefer to deal with someone north of the border. 
Saves customs and exchange, etc.
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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 1718
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93  6:00p
Subj: Mitsumi's for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have one LU002 mitsumi for sale. Internal, comes with card and cable,350ms
access time (I think) and 150Kb/sec transfer rate. I am asking $230 for it. I
also have a drive that looks EXACTLY the same, although it is sold under the
Tandy namw. They are identical in features. Both are brand new, I just have to
get rid of them because I want to get one of those CD-ROM card that can support
up to 4 CD-roms on one card. Contact me in this message echo, or preferibly
call me at home at (403)743-2137. You can also call my BBS at (403)790-2341 or
FAX me at the same number. I will accept cash, cheque or money order.
Both are used... and are still being used until I sell them. Please note that
this price in in Canadien money.... 0.73x230 = $168 U.S. Better hurry, these 2
drives wont last long.
CJK

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From: DENNIS STERNER                         Number: 1719
  To: STEVE PHILLIPS                           Date: 07/08/93 11:03p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Sorry, it's gone.
Thanks for the interest.

Dennis

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From: LEWIS BULLARD                          Number: 1720
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/08/93 10:47a
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Pat, I would sure like to read your ads, but the formatting just gives me the 
shivers! Please try to straighten this out, so I can comfortably read them.
It's gotten to the point that I just look at the ad and click forward. This
is a sincere message, and not meant as any kind of flame.

... Ifyoucanreadthis,youspendtoomuchtimefiguringouttaglines.
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From: KEVIN OYAMA                            Number: 1721
  To: CHRIS CONKLIN                            Date: 07/08/93 10:21p
Subj: NixPix1                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
Heard you may have a disk for sale - do you still have it available?!

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From: STEVE PHILLIPS                         Number: 1722
  To: KEVIN DEW                                Date: 07/09/93 12:25a
Subj: Secret Weapons                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Kevin, not being a player of either version, I don't know if CD-ROM
version of SWOTL added anything different. I noticed there is an option
on the menu "Historical Overview" with several hundred pages of
historical information about actual battles. The cover on the cd pack
mentions also that it includes "four tour of duty extensions: HE 162
Volksjager, P38 Lightning, Dornier 335 Pfeil and P80 Shooting Star".

I doubt the actual game is different in any significant way. During
installation it loads a fairly heavy dose of software to hard drive
for optimal performance during execution (amount loaded to disk is
selectable, recommended dose is 2.5 meg). Just looking around it looks
like the cd-rom is full, so maybe it is more complete.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1723
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/08/93 11:47p
Subj: $$$                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BT>MIKE! glad to see  you write to me istead of everyone else. I thought
BT>this matter was laid to rest! I would have "PAID" for it if you had

I didn't "write" to anyone except the folks who were kind enough to
lend me their support, while expressing their various opinions of you
at the same time.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1724
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/08/93 11:47p
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BT>i seen that mike shannon is selling nightowl 9 for $37.00
BT>tell me is that extorsion or price fixing?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

First you say you want to put it to rest, and in your next message you
throw more gasoline on the fire!!  What's it gonna be?

BT>I just bought NIGHTOWL 9 for    $25.  from groupware...

Ismail's advertised price is $29, which I have gladly matched for those
who have quoted it, but as for the $25 figure, let's just wait and see
if he posts it.  If so, I'll be glad to meet or beat that too, but one
thing I'll never do is chop the bottom out of a market just for the sake
of saying, "I have the lowest price!".  It's well known in business that
having the LOWEST "advertised" price is not always the BEST strategy as
far as NET profit is concerned!

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1725
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93 11:48p
Subj: NIGHTWATCH INTERACTIVE!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

      WOW!!   New > INTERACTIVE < Adult video CD!  Only . . . . $59.00
      ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

        Introducing NIGHT WATCH, the first "Interactive" full-length
        adult movie!

        You make the rounds with a beautiful late night security guard
        as you check out the action in her complex.

        This is a custom-shot, full length interactive movie with over
        100 minutes of digital video!  Shot from the first person
        point of view, and viewed on a 320 x 240 pixel screen at a
        realistic 10 frames per second, Nightwatch Interactive is the
        first full length adult movie that puts the user directly in
        the action!  All along the way, you encounter erotic situations
        and interact with some of the most gorgeous women you've ever
        seen!  (Req. Windows 3.1)

        QUANTITIES LIMITED . . . . $59.00 while they last. . . . . .

        . . . . . . . Coming soon to a CD-ROM Drive (In) near you!

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA þ MC þ AMEX þ DISCOVER þ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs þ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1726
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93 11:48p
Subj: WINBOX IS HERE*HOT*WOW                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   ATTENTION WINDOWS USERS!  Looking for THE BEST Windows shareware CD?
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     FROM THE MAKERS OF CD-POWERBOX . . . . . CD WINBOX 1.0 IS HERE!

      +------------------------+   +---------+   +-----------------+
      |  NO DUPES TO POWERBOX  |   |  640mb  |   |  40 FILE AREAS  |
      +------------------------+   +---------+   +-----------------+

      +-----------------+   +----------------+   +-----------------+
      |  VIRUS-CHECKED  |   |  ONLY $29.00!  |   |  MOSTLY 1993!!  |
      +-----------------+   +----------------+   +-----------------+

 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
  SPECIAL 2-DISC OFFER:  CD WINBOX + CD POWERBOX . . . (no dupes). . . $39
 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 BBS: 509-457-0206 COMING SOON!!  ONLINE ORDERING & CD-ROM FILE LISTINGS!!!
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA þ MC þ AMEX þ DISCOVER þ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs þ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: TOM SIMPSON                            Number: 1727
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93  7:50p
Subj: Cd Rom "bible Library"                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Am looking for a CD ROM titled "Bible Library".  Would like one that was 
picked up in bundle at low price as I have limited resources.  Can be reached 
at (919) 675-9563 or on this BBS.  I check in usually weekly.


... Medics for Life - Christian living in action
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From: STEVE STACY                            Number: 1728
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/08/93  8:53a
Subj: Cde = cd's, educational                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Patrick,  Glad to see that your posts are aligning correctly.  Looking forward
to your post on Texel bundels.

Thanks,

Steve


PR>PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600
PR>Mastercard & Visa accepted. Posted on 07/04/93, @ 08:10.


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From: BRIAN POLAK                            Number: 1729
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/08/93  1:15a
Subj: Adult cd prices                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike Shannon stated this on 06-26-93 concerning ADULT CD PRICES


Hi Mike,
        Can you tell me more about Moving Fantasies and about the two versions
of Digital Dreams available, what is the difference?  What is on them; gifs,
text, animation?  Also, I am looking for a CD containing a lot of different
versions of the Bible, the Toarh, and the Koran for a research project.  It
should contain the King James version, and an original version in Greek (would
be nice, but is not necessary). Thanks a lot.

                                    Talk Later
                                         Brian
                           Internet:brian.polak@travel.com
                           Fidonetmail: 1:100/635




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From: BRIAN POLAK                            Number: 1730
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 07/08/93  1:39a
Subj: Which is best?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Joe Hayes stated this on 06-29-93 concerning WHICH IS BEST?


JH>The caddyless drives are about 1000 times easier to clean.
JH>If you are a smoker, plan on cleaning your cd's as well as the drives
JH>on a regular basis. I clean mine twice a month..

Hi Joe,
        How do you go about cleaning your drive?  I have a cleaning CD that I
use in my audio CD player, but it does not work in my mitsumi. Any help is
greatly appreciated.

                                    Talk Later
                                         Brian
                           Internet:brian.polak@travel.com
                           Fidonetmail: 1:100/635


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From: RICHARD VONZEL                         Number: 1731
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 07/09/93  2:45a
Subj: Which Is Best?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JH>RV>      What do you clean them with, I have 4 old Mitsumi's for my BBS,
JH>RV> and  I have to clean one of them daily it seems.

JH>RV> Thanks,
JH>RV> Richard

JH>I use the professional tape head cleaner that you can buy at
JH>radio shack.
JH>Just dip a swap in it and VERY carfully clean the lens.
JH>I run the older mit's here also. seems like they work well
JH>with a bbs if kept clean.
JH>Just wondering? if you have 4 of them, do you have them in
JH>the same machine? Mine only have 3 irq's available.
JH>I was aware that the newer ones have 5 irq's??


   Thanks for the info, I have 2 MIt's in a server and 2 in my workstation...

Richard.


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1732
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/10/93  8:38a
Subj: BETTER THAN STREET ATLAS?               Refer: 5131
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> TITLE:  Precision Mapping
->
-> SPECIAL FEATURES:  Full CAD features with draw, edit, and control ove

Will it export the maps to .DWG or .DXF?  And aside from it being DOS
based, what other fundamental differences are there between this disc
and Street Atlas USA?

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1733
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/10/93  8:33a
Subj: New adult cd                            Refer: 5140
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->  WH> > KW>            ***   WILD WOMEN Volume 1    ***
->
-> You've got the wrong guy! This disc is being published out of Austral
-> I sent the note to them asking about street prices. So far, I haven't
-> heard back.

Actually, this disc is coming out of Atlanta... Kevin Wakefield is the
publisher and I have the worldwide exclusive distribution rights to
the product.  We'll begin distribution in early August. This is a GREAT
product and we'll post more about it in the coming weeks.  Stay tuned.

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From: VINCENT TESTA                          Number: 1734
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/08/93  6:31p
Subj: Re: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Tuesday July 06 1993, at 00:43, Mike Shannon Mentioned to All:

 MS> ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS!   NOW IN STOCK - THE LATEST AND GREATEST
 MS> NIGHT OWL OF ALL . . . . . . . . .
 MS>                                     . . . N  I  G  H  T      O  W  L
 MS>          +-+--+---+                           |   |        +=======+
 MS> PRICE:   | $37.00 |                       ====|===|====    ||     ||

 >>> WE WILL NOT BE UNDERSOLD ON THIS TITLE!  FIND IT FOR LESS?  IF IT'S
 >>> A LEGITIMATE AD, WE'LL BEAT THE PRICE - GUARANTEED!

Not to be rude or cheap..but the night owl 9's can be bought for $29 ;-)


Ciao, Vincent
...GoldED - World Tour - 1993

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From: ED BAILEY                              Number: 1735
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/07/93 11:34a
Subj: New CD's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 07-05-93 Vince Sorensen wrote to All... 
 
 VS>                    ** The BUSTY BABES are back! ** 
 VS>  
 VS>            North America's best selling Adult CD-ROM is here! 
 VS> Busty Babes Release 3.0 features everything that made it #1, plus: 
 VS>   - Even more original pics, not available anywhere else! 
 VS>   - The best interactive catalog/picture viewer on any Adult CD-ROM! 
 VS>     (I have not seen anything like it!) 
  
  When you get everything organized, please supply some prices and tax 
  references for us Canadians. If you are going to produce a catalog, you 
  could drop one to me at: 
 
  Box 425 
  Souris, MB 
  R0K 2C0 
 
  Thanks 
  Ed 
 
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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 1736
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/07/93  6:08p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <28 Jun 93  00:08:00>, Patrick Rosenheim (1:101/330) writes:
 >caddies                                             $5 American Business 
 >Phone Book                              $23 Anim. Fant. 1 or 2            
 >                            $30 The Animals                               
 >                $28 Battle Chess                                          
 >    $22 Bible library                                             $26 
 >Bibles & Religion                                         $13 Britannica 
 >Select                                         $39 Busty Babes            
I am very interested in your prices, it looks like you have some good deals
but it is very difficult when it comes out the that above. If you could fix it,
it would be a lot more useful. If you can, please mail a catalog to Ryan Denke,
5011 E. 18th, Casper, Wy 82609. Thanks.


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From: BARRY FRIEDMAN                         Number: 1737
  To: BILL VAN VLIET                           Date: 07/08/93  7:03p
Subj: HELP IN LOGGING INTO PIPELINE BBS       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BILL,

THE PIPELINE BBS FOES NOT ALLOW NEW USERS ACCESS TO THE SYSTEM.  I CAN'T EVEN
LEAVE A MESSAGE FOR THE SYSOPS.  CAN YOU LOGON AND SEE IF YOU CAN CLEAR THE
WAY FOR ME?  MAYBE GET ME A TEMPORARY PASSWORD AND LOGON I.D.?

THANKS

BMF

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 1738
  To: PROGRAMMERS                              Date: 07/07/93 10:47p
Subj: C/C++ CDROM for July                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its C/C++ CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
987 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 1739
  To: CLIF DANIEL                              Date: 07/09/93  8:15a
Subj: Microsoft Office 3.0                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How much would you sell the LOTUS 1-2-3 MPC disc for?


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From: EARL BONSER                            Number: 1740
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/08/93 11:50a
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> i seen that mike shannon is selling nightowl 9 for $37.00
-> tell me is that extorsion or price fixing?

Bubba, you just told Mike that you wanted to drop this subject in your last
message.  If so, why this one?  Hasn't this gone on about long enough?
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From: TALLEY RAGAN                           Number: 1741
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/09/93 12:23a
Subj: Re: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <07-06-93 00:43> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS>> ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS!   NOW IN STOCK - THE LATEST AND GREATEST
MS>> NIGHT OWL OF ALL . . . . . . . . .

        Mike, would you send me one of your catalogs to:

        Talley Ragan
        12407 N. 11th Street lot G
        Tampa, Fl. 33612

        Thanks in advance.

                Talley



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From: HERMAN WIGGINS                         Number: 1742
  To: PATRICK SHEN                             Date: 07/09/93 11:13a
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Patrick!

Shareware overload, do it have files.bbs and also what the date on the
files..

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From: THOMAS KINNEN                          Number: 1743
  To: MICHAEL GIUNTOLI                         Date: 07/09/93  9:37p
Subj: CD ROM SPEED VS. BBS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Michael!

In a message to All <07/07/93> Michael Giuntoli wrote:

MG>         I was looking into getting the 6 disc pioneer mini changer
MG>  the access time on it is 600ms and the transfer rate is 153kb per
MG> second. I wanna use it on a bbs. Can anyone that either has this drive or

On a BBS speed is not important if you are not trying to send the files
from the CD-ROM directly....  If you run multi-line you need BBS software
or a door program that will copy the Files to the HD before sneding...  I
run two 450Ms cd with no probelms and my room mate runs two 6 disk units
and 2 single disk units with no problems.....

                                Tom

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From: KEVIN ROBBINS                          Number: 1744
  To: STEVE PHILLIPS                           Date: 07/08/93  9:40p
Subj: Re: Secret Weapons                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Steve Phillips to All <=-

 SP> I have an opened but unused

 SP> Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe.

 SP> Too complex for my taste. I'll sell it for $20.

I'm interested in purchasing the Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe 
from you for $20 if you still have it. 
                                        Kevin Robbins

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 1745
  To: RON THOMPSON                             Date: 07/07/93  7:32a
Subj: Apple Cd-Rom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RT>   Can anyone out there tell me of the good/bad points of getting an
RT>Apple Cd-Rom drive. My daughter will be getting a Macintosh LC3 in a few
RT>months, and they recommended it. Is anything else better AND compatible?
RT>Sorry for the ignorance on this, but I am new to CD-Rom technology.

Ron,
If it's the integrated CdRom that comes in the LCIII, it's a good deal.
I recently bought a Centris 610 and spang for the internal cdrom model,
even though I had a Nec84. Be sure to get the 300Kps models. Stay away
from the older Apple drives and the new cute, black one.

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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 1746
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/09/93  6:12a
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


BT>he claims the lowest prices available.....MIKE you had better  drop
  >that $37. price tag to $24.95 if you want to be the lowest price guy.
  >bubba

I don't even know Mike Shanon but I have ordered from him indirectly
through my local sysop (who speaks highly of him), and intend to order
from him directly in the future. I do think that this has obviously
turned into a very vindictive ploy to discredit the man and I feel that
it has no place on this echo. If you have a legitimate beef with him
take it ti Small Claims Court, not here.
 þ QMPro 1.50 22-2345 þ Dogs come when you call. Cats have answering machines.


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From: PIERRE PROULX                          Number: 1747
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/08/93 10:35p
Subj: Re: Night Owl's #9 $29                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Ismail!

In a message to Pierre Proulx <07/04/93> Ismail Arslangiray wrote:

IA> > Do you accept credit card orders and do you deliver in Canada without
IA> > extra
IA> > charges?
IA> Yes, we do accept credit cards and Canadian shipping is $5. TTYL 

Do you have a mailing address, so I can mail you all the info...

Thanks...


BTW  Do you have a catalog of all the CD's that you're selling?


Pierre

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 1748
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/08/93  6:34p
Subj: $$$                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BT>I did ask the Ups man to come back. he was in a hurry, and    the fact 
  >that my check was not acceptable offended me personally. 
  >i wish to drop this subject .......... 
 
 UPS has to make at least 2 delivery attempts. 
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From: JD BROWN                               Number: 1749
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/09/93  6:06p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EB> CDRoms for sale:

EB> (BETA) OS/2 Professional Dev Kit    $25.00

  All of the Beta OS/2 PDK's licenses have expired. Also, selling this CD
violates the license agreement. Check with your DAP rep.

 JD Brown
 DEV0580
 IBM Developers Assistance Program

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From: KEVIN WAKEFIELD                        Number: 1750
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/07/93  2:18p
Subj: Wicked cd                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Has anyone here seen the adult CD "Wicked" supposedly starring Terri
Weigel?  Just wondering what format the disc is, i.e., is it images (GIF,
photo CD) or animations?


    <<<  kevin  >>>


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From: CARL SLAWINSKI                         Number: 1751
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/10/93  3:41a
Subj: Dealers                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ahoy All!

Shortly, I'm going to be in the market for some CD ROM drives and perhpas some
more discs.

I picked up a Mitsumi a couple of weeks ago to look at, and I'm satisfied with
it's performance so far. If I can add 3 more on the same controller, I might be
interested in doing it that way.

I'm looking for the least expensive way to add the drives without giving away
all of the performance. I could live with 350ms drives around the $200 range.
(aka what the Mitsumi goes for). Maybe a little more if I have to.

Can any one give me any info on this multiple Mitsumi setup? Know if they have
a BBS #?

Also, If any dealers (or anyone who wants to sell stuff) wants to send me
literature, brochures, or whatever, fell free to do so.

Carl Slawinski
6342 Woodgreen Drive
Millington, Tn 38053

BTW, thanks to the vendors who have already sent info.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1752
  To: BOB HALL                                 Date: 07/09/93 12:12p
Subj: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93  7:38p                       Private: No 

 BH>   SLMR 2.1a   Think hard now!  Which one is Shinola?              
                                                                       
  
You win the Tagline of the Year award!! (ROFLMAO) =(:>> 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1753
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/09/93 12:15p
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS>                                                                   
 MS> ****************************************************************  
 MS> ***                                                               
 MS> July 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last up  
 MS> 7/08                                                              
 MS> ****************************************************************  
 MS> ***                                                               
                                                                       
  
Your lists are line-wrapping again, big fella. Makes it tough on us 
dyslexics (::-| 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1754
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/09/93 12:20p
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> (Just kidding Bob - more like 10 bucks)                           
                                                                       
  
Well, it was $10 until my last order - now it's zip. (:< 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 1755
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/09/93  2:52a
Subj: Busty Babes Ships Next Week             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The infamous "Busty Babes" will be back on the market and shipping next week.
The disc was scaled back to 500MB which will solve some of the problems it
encountered on older CD players--It underwent major revisions, and most all the
original scans were replaced by the "True" authors etc..

The real excitement lies with the new interface--It was written by a commercial
company, and customized for us thus setting back their commercial release 7
days--The entire CD is viewed in pages (16 scans a page), and you click on any
of these "Thumbnails" and the GIF enlarges--Click on your "FAVORITE" area of
the GIF, and enlarge that piece to unbelievable levels.

Instantly pop up the areas of interest (categories on CD), and go off in
another area of interest--Has complete menu bar on the bottom, quickly fast
forward thru the libraries, click and ZOOM--THis is the first image managing
package on the market, the "New Generation" GIF/PCX for true image lovers--
Our interface was hard coded for 16 images, but the commercial package will
allow you to display from 1 to 1,024 images on the screen. It allows you to
click and drag your images around the grid and put them in the order you like,
and so much more--Finds the image dupes on your drives, and puts them side by
side etc...... to many features to talk about here.

Takes the labor out of trying to manage all those images on a CD--Now you can
jump around with a click of a mouse--and get away from having to see 1 image at
a time-Executes faster then any image viewer on the market--But this is not
just an image viewer, it's an image manager--The first of its kind on the
market--

How will you know which Busty Babes disc it is on ? Look for Vol 1 Release 3.0
on the front cover--

SHOWOFF! (tm), will open up a whole new world to you, and they have provided
their 800 number for technical support and ordering--The commercial package
direct is $49.95, and once you test drive "Busty"--Your gonna be hooked !


-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1756
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/10/93  1:57a
Subj: HOTTEST CD AROUND                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

/////////////////////  A  R E A L  S L E E P E R  \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
       Here it is, one of the most talked about CD's on the Market!
                          SOFTWARE VAULT II
   Over 640 Megs of Shareware Programs and ALL of them dated '93'
   There are NO DUPLICATIONS on this CD and only a 1% Dup rate to
   Night Owl 9. Super front end program and it's fully BBS ready !!
         Don't believe us, ask a fellow sysop who owns one !!!
                        PRICE - $29.00
          C.C.I customers, call us for your discount today !!
ORDER LINE ONLY - 800-243-0517 - Tech 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Oh never mind!
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From: JOE BURKE                              Number: 1757
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 07/06/93  5:59p
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JM> I am sort of interested in purchasing some CD-ROMs, and would
JM> like to know if anybody has had any problems ordering from
JM> them. I know their prices are hard to beat, but I sort of got
JM> burnt once and would not like it to happen again.

As a matter of fact I just ordered two CD's from them last week. They where
super on the phone. Was told the CD would probibly be there Friday or Saturday
and they showed up Friday. Can't beat that.


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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 1758
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/09/93  8:05a
Subj: SHE'S BACK & SHE'S BETTER               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey everyone!
    The most talked about CD-ROM in the industry, the ultimate
connoisseur's collection is back! BUSTY BABES has returned with a new
version 3.0... thousands of sizzling pictures, text stories, and the
best interactive viewing system I've ever seen! (Its also BBS ready, by
the way!)  I'm proud to announce that CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA is
the exclusive Canadian distributor for this disc! Join us at Comdex, at
the Tradeshows booth, or give us a call when we return July 19th at
306-789-4654! By the way, this release features some amateur Canadian
models who've licensed their private collection to FLD, Inc... very
interesting stuff!         TTYL....

    .\\ichellea
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 1759
  To: NEIL ALLEN                               Date: 07/09/93  1:41p
Subj: BUSTY BABES RELEASE 3.0                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->       Can you tell me more about this?  Is this going to be at a
-> computer/software show?
   Comdex Canada is an exposition of Computers and Computer Related
merchandise primarily oriented towards dealers, wholesalers, and the
like. I believe the Toronto Metro Convention Centre would have complete
info...
   Vince
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 1760
  To: TERRY SCHREIBER                          Date: 07/09/93  5:45p
Subj: ANNOUNCEMENT                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> If you are wholesale then how can you retail? Are you going to supply
-> dealers and then compete against them? You will not find very many
-> dealers that will buy from you under those terms in fact you will
-> drive them to the competition (sic).

Hi Terry!

   First of all, I should note that Comdex is primarily a dealers/
distributors/wholesalers event, not a retail one.

To answer your question:
   The same way anyone else does. Many computer equipment companies and
CD-ROM suppliers that I'm aware of are perfectly willing to sell a
single piece at a "retail" price, and multiple pieces at wholesale
(I could name 3 who advertise retail CD-ROMs through this echo).
I am not interested in competing with the dealers I supply. I am simply
here to supply dealers who wish to have a quality Canadian supplier who
can give them excellent value where CD-ROMs are concerned, and the
end-users who do not have access to a dealer I supply. I'm afraid
I can't agree with your conclusion, especially since I can't agree with
the assumptions you've stated.

   I can be reached via netmail at 1:140/121, or by voice
at 306-789-4654. I'm not sure that the inner workings of economics
are "on-topic" for the CD-ROM echo, so we may want to continue this
thread in another manner.

   Vince
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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 1761
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/09/93 10:35a
Subj: CHANGES                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Whats your price on the latest night owls CD ??

J.P>
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1762
  To: ALLAN KENNEDY                            Date: 07/10/93  1:01a
Subj: Cd drives, software, &c.                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AK>PATRICK  I wish you could see the way your add spreads across and wra I'm
trying a *lot* of different options, Allan. Hopefully, ONE of them will work!
Thanks, Pat

===
 * RM 1.0 00391 * Download PANDA.ZIP from Boston Rocks! - (617) 397-8888


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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 1763
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 07/09/93  7:07p
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Jeff - is this the mcp and the kodak photo type?  Jerry
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 1764
  To: GREGORY MILLS                            Date: 07/09/93 11:19p
Subj: CD'S WANTED                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I am looking for a source of CD Roms for my own collections and have
-> been thinking of selling as well.  Would appreciate receiving any
-> details you have. Unable to reach Comdex due to other commitments.
-> If you have a catalog would like a copy.
   Sure thing... they'll be printed by the time we get back (more like
the day after we leave!) so expect one shortly after the 19th.
   Vince
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1765
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/10/93 11:48a
Subj: $$$                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> I didn't "write" to anyone except the folks who were kind enough  
 MS> lend me their support, while expressing their various opinions o  
 MS> at the same time.                                                 
                                                                       
  
Mike, as a friend, this is *OVER* -- please let it drop. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1766
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/10/93 11:51a
Subj: Busty Babes Ships Next We               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> commercial release 7 days--The entire CD is viewed in pages (16   
 LN> page), and you click on any of these "Thumbnails" and the GIF     
                                                                       
  
Take note, other "thumbnailers" - THIS is a reasonable reduction. Small 
enough to get several on a screen at once and large enough to identify 
the image contents. Of it still remains to be seen if the *new* disk is 
as good as claimed...(:> 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1767
  To: KEVIN WAKEFIELD                          Date: 07/10/93 11:58a
Subj: Wicked cd                               Refer: NONE
Read: 12/15/93  6:56p                       Private: No 

 KW> Has anyone here seen the adult CD "Wicked" supposedly starring    
 KW> Terri Weigel?  Just wondering what format the disc is, i.e., is   
 KW> it images (GIF, photo CD) or animations?                          
                                                                       
  
She has a movie out by that title - also available on VHS. Haven't heard 
of a CD version. 
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 1768
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/09/93 11:02a
Subj: Spreadsheet cD-ROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its Spreadsheet CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a
dump of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
325 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: ED WILKINS                             Number: 1769
  To: CLARK PASCHALL                           Date: 07/09/93  8:19p
Subj: Unix Clone...pd                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I have a copy of a Unix clone called Linux if anyone is interested.
-> a full blown sys. with Xwindows takes ~60M of HD.  A basic system can
-> run on less (can't remember exactly 10M I think).  It comes on 30 HD
-> disks.  Leave mail if interested.
->
-> --- MsgToss 2.0c (r)
->  * Origin: Dynamic RBBS (904)479-9521 * Pensacola, Florida (1:3612/18
->
How much do ya want for the disk, if its still around?


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1770
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 07/11/93  9:25a
Subj: SHE'S BACK & SHE'S BETTER               Refer: 5203
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> 306-789-4654! By the way, this release features some amateur Canadian
-> models who've licensed their private collection to FLD, Inc... very

Are the amateur model(s) the same ones I'm thinking about?  If so, get
me a copy ASAP!

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1771
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  9:59p
Subj: Big Money...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Tribune Co. has come to our little party... Tribune is paying 57 million
in *cash* for Compton's Multimedia Publishing Group.  They're also
forking out 40 million (cash & stock) for Contemporary Books (publishers
of educational & self-help stuff).  100 million.  Bam.

I wonder if Tribune will publish any multimedia educational CDs?

tim
moderator
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From: JIM REED                               Number: 1772
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/09/93  5:06p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>I have a copy of 7th Guest that I would like to trade for CD's. If you have
MS>anything you no longer need, and would like to have this fantastic CD,
leave
MS>a message and maybe we can make a deal!

Hi Michael;
        I have an adult CD, Animated Fantasies Vol 2 that I would trade
        for 7TH.  Just drop me a line if your interested.
                                /JIM/

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From: MICHAEL CRAM                           Number: 1773
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/09/93  8:09p
Subj: SONY CDU-7205/N                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    I have a barely used sony CDU 7205/n for sale.  It's an external
slim liny CD ROM drive using the Sony bus card.  Reads CD-ROM 1 and 2
disks, audio combined cd-rom, High Sierra, ISO-9660, Red and Yellow book
audio and audio CD's.

600 KB/sec transfer burst, 340 Millisecond ac


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1774
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 07/10/93 10:31p
Subj: 30 CD DRIVES $130 EACH                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 Used Hitachi cd rom drives $130 each or...
  
  4 used Hitachi  internal  3500  drives  with  an  external  case,
  controller  card,  cables,  caddies,  screws,  drivers,  30   day
  warranty,  INCLUDING shipping in the US via  US  mail  AND  c.o.d
  charges   ...   ONLY     $600    total.      Call    205-824-2552
  
  Power supplies are available for $25,
  External cable is available for $30,
  2 nd day shipping is available for $25.
  Cream  of  the  Crop  Shareware  with  this   package   for $19
  ...and/or other popular cd titles.
 
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From: PIERRE PROULX                          Number: 1775
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/09/93  8:52p
Subj: ANNOUNCEMENT                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Vince!

In a message to Canadian Cd-rom Users <07/05/93> Vince Sorensen wrote:

VS> Attention Canadians!  CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA expands
VS> July 19th!  Finally, there's a Canadian source for CD-ROMs
VS> that has plenty in stock, and reasonable prices.  Dealers

Would you have Night Owl #9 and at what price?

Thanks

Pierre Proulx

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From: PIERRE PROULX                          Number: 1776
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/09/93  8:54p
Subj: BUSTY BABES RELEASE 3.0                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Vince!

In a message to All <07/05/93> Vince Sorensen wrote:

VS>                    ** The BUSTY BABES are back! **

VS>            North America's best selling Adult CD-ROM is here!
VS> Busty Babes Release 3.0 features everything that made it #1, plus:

You don't give any price on this one... how much is it?


Pierre

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From: TODD BOWMAN                            Number: 1777
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/10/93 11:41a
Subj: SBP CD-ROM                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a SBP card that I would like to connect a CD-ROM drive
to.  Does anybody have one that I might be able to pick up
at a good price?  Thanx.

Todd






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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 1778
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/08/93  3:41p
Subj: Re: Starvector                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Bubba!,
     Ya know, I disliked your little campaign against Mike so much I just
called and ordered a couple CD's from him. Seemed like the least I could do.
Have a nice day. 
      DCK

     

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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 1779
  To: GORDON CRAIG                             Date: 07/08/93 10:21a
Subj: cd-rom case                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GC> I am looking for an external cd-rom case to house 6 Chinon cds-435 units
GC> rather then purchase six external cdx-435 externals. The case must have
GC> a power supply , fan , and scsi-centronics port on the rear of the cab-
GC> inet...can anybody help me out?

Go buy a mid tower case w/ 6 drive bays instead of external drive cases.
Much cheaper.  Power

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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 1780
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 07/09/93 10:00a
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I everyone,  Does anyone have a CD full of *.MOD's, *.WAV's, *.VOC's
ect?
 >

I am interested also.  I know a SYSOP locally who plans to make a CD
with about 1000 mod files, tons of MIDI, VOC, as well as samples, etc.
He is taking orders now and when he gets about 40 orders, he will cut
the CD.  $25.  Let me know if anyone is interested.

In the interm, I am looking for a CD NOW with mod files.  Let me know
if you know of one.  Thanks.
.

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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 1781
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/09/93  7:55p
Subj: Trade?                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for the following CDs:

The 7th Guest or other cool games
OS/2 stuff
Nix Pix or Any Adult CD except Digital Dreams

I have:

Superstor 2.0 (manuals, reg. card, etc), 1 meg of 70ns simms, and
Generic Cadd 5.0 (v1.0) (just the disk, I lost everything else).

Let me know what you have and maybe we can work something out?
415-586-8140 or leave message here.  Thanks.


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From: JOHN CUSTER                            Number: 1782
  To: STEVE PHILLIPS                           Date: 07/09/93  8:50a
Subj: Secret Weapons                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

SP>.I have an opened but unused

SP>.Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe.

SP>.Too complex for my taste. I'll sell it for $20.
  >.Reply here or call 704-374-2933.

I'll Take it Were Do I Send The Payment to,,   John
 þ QMPro 1.50 93-1426 þ ACK and you shall receive.


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From: MICHAEL COLLIER                        Number: 1783
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/10/93  8:45a
Subj: Cdrom Systems                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO> -=>> Quoting Boris Osadciw to All <=-
BO> 
BO> BO>> NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
BO> 

BO>This unit is an External true SCSI unit that offers 450ms access time
BO>with 150kps transfer rate. It's Novell, OS/2 and MPC compliant and is
BO>caddless. It's a complete system, which means you get the drive,
BO>comntroller, shielded cable, drivers and manual as well as the full
BO>warrenty and head phones.
BO> 
BO>Need further assistance, please feel free to call us at 216-225-3263
BO>and we'll be more than happy to help you.

   Hi Boris, How much extra for a notebook interface for the NEC 36? 
Also, do you carry the Microsolutions Backpack drives?

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1784
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/09/93 10:29p
Subj: Windows!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*****************************************************************************
************************  CD-ROM International  *****************************
*****************************************************************************

CD PowerBox v1.0 - An excellent collection of shareware designed with the
                 BBS SysOp in mind.  Has both a DOS user interface as well
                 as a Windows GUI.  Released 01/93.  $22.

CD WinBox v1.0 - This is THE BEST Windows shareware disc yet!  Has a true
                 Windows GUI for easy file viewing and manipulation.  Just
                 released (06/93)!  $29.

SPECIAL OFFER FOR FIDONET CUSTOMERS:

        Get both discs for only $39!  Please mention that you saw the ad in
        FidoNet, because these discs are regularly sold for $34 each.

                           * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
CD-ROM International       * Call our BBS for the latest catalog, or   *
(800) 678-2374 (Orders)    * file request CATALOG from 1:344/79.  The  *
(509) 754-0724 (Voice)     * catalog has been updated with new titles  *
(509) 754-0109 (BBS/Fax)   * and lower prices.                         *
Cash/COD/Credit Cards      * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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From: TONY MACE                              Number: 1785
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/10/93  3:54p
Subj: Audio Cable Needed                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

I need a audio cable to go from a Toshiba XM-3201 (int) to my PAS16.  I am
currently using the headphone jack to the line in on the back of the pas and
this in a pain in the but.

Please call 308-487-5378 (collect even), least msg here or netmail at
1:14/618@fidonet.org

Tony

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From: STEVE PHILLIPS                         Number: 1786
  To: HENRY ARIAS                              Date: 07/09/93  6:36p
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry - my question wasn't clear. Does all the art (painting, sculpture,
and architecture) derive from one period; i.e., Renaissance? Or does the
CD include works from different periods?

thanks. 
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From: LESLIE R. THOMAS                       Number: 1787
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 07/09/93  8:45p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Jeff Jenkins to All <=-

 JJ> Mitsumi internal drive for sale (2mo old) sellin' it just cuz I need
 JJ> the moneyright now...no trades.
 
 I can offer you $140 plus shipping.  If you are interested give me a call
 at (817)  547-0960.  Thisoffer is only good if it is the model that 
 is compatible with the Soundblaster Pro built in interface.  I ask you to 
 bear in mind that these can be bought brand new for $227.


... Sorry, the Dog ate my Blue Wave packet.
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From: MARK SMITKA                            Number: 1788
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/10/93  3:34p
Subj: $$$                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS|I didn't "write" to anyone except the folks who were kind enough to MS|lend
me their support, while expressing their various opinions of you MS|at the same
time.

Mike,

I've been sitting back watching (ya gotta love it), and while I haven't ever
ordered from you yet, it's certainly likely that I _will_ in the future. You
have remained professional and business-like all through all of this, and while
I gotta admit, I've seen some of your advertised products for less, you seem
willing to go the extra mile for your customers.  What surprises me, is that
there has been at least one message complaining about you giving the 10%
discounts to some of your customers/supporters.  Sure, the recipients of the
discount lose some objectivity.  SO WHAT!  They _should_ lose their objectivity
when they've been treated right.  They'll lose objectivity when you provide
good service too.  Maybe you shouldn't do that either.  <g> If someone dines at
a restaurant and compliments the owner about the meal, and the owner gives
him/her a coupon for a free meal, the owner will benefit from some real cheap
advertising.  The customer will lose _all_ objectivity, but will also have
gotten a free meal!  Sounds like the American way to me!  :-) BTW, for those
that will accuse me of writing this as a "cheap shot" for a discount, that's
not the case. However, you _can_ send me a catalog to:

P.O. Box 822
Horsham, PA 19044

Thanks.  Oh,...and apologies to the moderator.  I suppose this really doesn't
belong here, but I couldn't resist.


 * OLX 2.1 * I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is having.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1789
  To: RAY LEUNG                                Date: 07/10/93 11:17a
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ray,

Here are the answers to your questions:

RL>1)  Do you take orders from Canada?  YES
RL>2)  Do you take Visa or Mastercard from Canada?  YES
RL>3)  Do you ship to a PO Box, I've got a PO Box and my Visa and Mastercard
RL>bills go there too.  YES
RL>4)  How do you ship to Canada (USPS)?  AIR MAIL (normal)  FEDEX or AMEX
       on request
RL>5)  What are your shipping rates to Canada?  AIRMAIL is $6 up to 4 CD's,
       and 75-cents for each CD over 4.
RL>6)  Does your toll free line work from Canada?  NO
RL>7)  Do you carry a OS/2 specific CD?  The only one right now is Hobbes
       OS/2 at $16

RL>Thanx for any info you can provide.

Give us a call anytime.

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA þ MC þ AMEX þ DISCOVER þ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs þ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1790
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/10/93 11:17a
Subj: CD SALE!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ> MS> Bibles & Religion...$10
BJ>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
BJ>     -- I'll take one.
BJ>BTW: Did you ever get any Oink-II in stock?

Got ya down Bob.  I didn't forget about your Dictionaries & Languages
either, so don't worry.  I've got about 450 CD's coming from Chestnut,
of which only 120 have arrived so far, but should have the rest in
by Monday 7/12 or Tuesday, so your stuff will ship then.

I'm down to the bottom of the barrel on Porkie 2's and would like to
hang onto these few for sales, but as soon as I get 20 more, I'll send
one out to you.

Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1791
  To: DONNA MC LAUGHLIN                        Date: 07/10/93 11:17a
Subj: Catalog for your products               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DML>Mike:

DML>    After all the good things I've been reading about you from others in
DML>this echo, I'm interested!!!  (Can I join the 10% Off Club too? ;>) [D )
DML>    Do you have a catalog available listing titles, prices, etc.?  I could
DML>probably show it to about a dozen people in my area and hopefully gather a
DML>decent size order together at one shot.

Donna,

Thanks for the inquiry.  Unfortunately, my stingy sysop does not give me
netmail access, so I'll have to reply here for now.  Be glad to send you
our latest CD catalog . . . all I need is an address.  You can either
leave it here (you'll probably get about 10 catalogs <g>) or phone me at
509-457-2892 and I'll get one right out to you.

Take care,
.\\ike

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From: JEREMIAH CASEY                         Number: 1792
  To: BEN WARREN                               Date: 07/09/93  6:18p
Subj: Cd-Rom For Sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BW>well,jeremiah,i might take a little less,but this is an
BW>external unit with it's own power supply and you don't have
BW>to fool with making sure you have an extra floppy drive cable
BW>to plug into it or a place to mount it in the chassis.i'd
BW>consider$
BW>$150.00

mmmm I would take it if it included all the accesories needed :)...Like da
controller card,mmmm :) any software dat came wit it....Also what kinda stats
it be??  Like what speed and junk....


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From: MICHAEL KANKO                          Number: 1793
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/10/93  8:44p
Subj: N OWL                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi, does anyone here know about how much the new Night Owl 9 is?

Thanks

Mike
 
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From: CORNELL EYDE                           Number: 1794
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/10/93  1:07p
Subj: MITSUMI CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Any Dealers here have a good price on a NEW mitsumi CD rom drive?

I would prefer 16bit card with 350MS access time, but would consider the
older one for the right price.

Leave message here or net mail to 1:267/144

Thx


 

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From: KAMAL HAFFAR                           Number: 1795
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/10/93 11:12a
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > i seen that mike shannon is selling nightowl 9 for
 > $37.00
 > tell me is that extorsion or price fixing?

 > I just bought NIGHTOWL 9 for    $25.  from
 > groupware...
 > the number is  (206)-472-1400 call and see for
 > yourself!

 > mitsumi internals for $175. complete..........

 > he claims the lowest prices available.....MIKE you had
 > better  drop
 > that $37. price tag to $24.95 if you want to be the
 > lowest price guy.

Enough is enough, put this matter to rest and stop wasting our money on
childish postings.  If you think your going to drive Star Vector customers to
purchase from somewhere else because of your postings you're totally mistaken. 
I value a good customer service as oppose to saving few dolars.  In fact
despite your postings I have ordered from Mike over $100.00 and I will continue
to order from him.

So sir, you made your point and so did Mike, no point in carrying on with this
bs.

Kamal

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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 1796
  To: JIM HUSBAND                              Date: 07/08/93  2:36p
Subj: For trade - magazine rack               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 07-05-93  19:47 Jim Husband shared these words of wisdom: 

 JH> I have a few possible pending offers. If there is no definite
 JH> answer soon, maybe we can deal ($10 if we can). I'll let you know.

OK, let me know. $10 is ok by me.


... I'm not short, I'm vertically challenged
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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 1797
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/09/93  5:47p
Subj: waiting for the boss...                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 06-20-93  01:19 Mike Shannon shared these words of wisdom: 

 MS> I think I already did in our phone conversation. <g>  Enjoyed talking
 MS> to you.  Let me know what the "boss" thinks.

Latest word is that we'll get $$ for the drive and some disks soon. The
powers that be decided that since the drive is a capital expenditure, it
couldn't be bought with leftover funds from last fiscal year, but should
be requested this fy. At any rate, the thing should happen soon. I did
receive your catalog, btw, and it looks like Front Page News will also
be useful.  I've also got the CDROM bug myself, and am considering
adding a drive to my pc, and will probably be ordering a few disks for
myself soon. I appreciate all your help on the phone, and will be in
touch soon with my order(s).



... Press all the keys at once to continue...
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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 1798
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/10/93  9:18p
Subj: sellin' some roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 06-21-93  17:25 Eric Bravick shared these words of wisdom: 

 EB> Another "cleaning out some of the stuff from my apartment so that I
 EB> can walk around without stepping on it" sale.

 EB> CDRoms for sale:

 I'm interested in the following (if you still have them, I tend to run
 behind in reading my mail packets):

 EB> CICA Windows (Dec)           $10.00
 EB> US History                   $15.00
 EB> Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00
 EB> Time Tables of History S+I   $15.00
 EB> Family Doctor                $25.00
 EB> Greatest Books 150           $20.00
     (Would appreciate fuller description)

 EB> NASA Voyager Image data      $10.00 /ea.
 EB> sell set for $85)
 EB> Garbo CD (MSDos/Mac)         $15.00

Please call (609) 771-1417, echo, or netmail with more particulars. My
husband is interested in the NASA data, but notes that it is available
from the publisher at $20 for the first disk and $6 for each additional
disk, so it comes out to the same price as yours.



... If at first you don't succeed, put out a bug fix
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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 1799
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/09/93 12:40p
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BT> i seen that mike shannon is selling nightowl 9 for $37.00
BT> tell me is that extorsion or price fixing?
BT> I just bought NIGHTOWL 9 for    $25.  from groupware...

Then you must've gotten some kind of special deal, as Ismail advertises it at
$29, not $25. Hmm.....?

 BT> that $37. price tag to $24.95 if you want to be the lowest price guy.

Have you called him to verify if he would or not? if not, desist. You're also
Continually bringing this up & slamming other dealers prices, how do you expect
this thread to end if you keep this up? So you got a "raw deal" in your eyes,
deal elsewhere and stop moaning. Sheesh... (Sorry Tim) :)

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 1800
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93 10:11a
Subj: Toshiba CDROM Drives                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Features: Warranty, DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin 
  SCSI, 350ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,
  64k buffer.  Still have several remaining.

205-837-5053 




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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 1801
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/06/93 12:36a
Subj: REVIEW OF "DIGITAL DREAMS               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>   As previously eluded to, there is a built-in GIF viewer.  It's a
>   shareware package called "GIFReed".  The DD authors make a splash
>   about this program in their documentation, but I wasn't impressed by it.

Funny thing - I know the author, Davie Reed (he's the "head sysop" of the
Indiana Computer Society BBS, among other things). He's tried to get me to try
his program, but it is NOT in fact "shareware", but rather is CRIPPLEWARE.

>   It's worth noting
>   that DD's authors suggest copying GIFReed and the right catalogs
>   (more on this later) to your HDD to boost performance.

This would likely be true for ANY .GIF display method - VPIC runs MUCh faster
from HD than driect from CD-ROM too....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 1802
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/06/93 12:37a
Subj: REVIEW OF "DIGITAL DREAMS               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>   The included copy of GIFReed is too crippled IMHO, to permit any
>   real "try before buy" evaluation, not to mention the highly
>   annoying beeps, messages, warnings, etc. that go along with the
>   crippled functionality.

Mind if I forward this to the author? I've been TRYING to point that out to him
for almost a YEAR now....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Work harder! Millions on Welfare depend on YOU!

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From: PAUL HUNDRIESER                        Number: 1803
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/10/93 10:39a
Subj: Amiga 500                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Amiga 500 for sale
1meg memory
1084 monitor
Commoedore 520 TV adaptor
2400 modem
mouse, joystick, tons of software

Make Offer

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1804
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/02/93 11:29a
Subj: OUR TRADE                               Refer: NONE
Read: 07/12/93  7:12a                       Private: No 

 -> address.  Take care of this immediately.
 TH> Why not call Terry?  A telephone is a wonderful gizmo and allows
 TH> you to talk to someone *immediately*, instead of waiting 3-4 days
 TH> as this echo requires.  Terry's number is 305-581-5060.

If you are offering this as a public service, thank you.  If the tone of your
message is actually as sarcastic as it sounds, it is rather unappreciated. 
Terry did not offer his phone number, so I would not accept it from another
source.  Terry did offer to ship a CD-ROM to me via priority USPS on the Sat.
before I posted the message you are responding to.  He did not.  He claims to
have had extenuating circumstances, but failed to notify me of that fact.  When
I posted the message to me, his response was to FED-EX overnight my disc back. 
That in itself appeared rather suspicious to me.  If he were GENUINELY
concerned that he was unable to uphold his end of the deal, my CD should have
been in the FED-EX package.  Instead, he got his jollies, and tried to shift
blame to me for the deal not being completed.  If you only moderate in favor of
your friends, you should let us all know before hand.  I have never had a
moderator post a similar message to me. I have one more message from Terry to
reply to, and after that, it is end of thread.  He claims to have me in his
twit filter, which is fine. I want the message out to the public instead.

 * MKRead v1.01 * Madness takes its toll.  Have exact change ready


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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1805
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/02/93 11:46a
Subj: OUR TRADE                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TW> Listen, Bozo, what I said was exactly true. There are several

Now you resort to name calling.  Why?  Are you hiding something maybe?
 TW> acceptable to me. I have no difficulty keeping my word, even if
 TW> the product isn't what I expected. Ask around the echo.  But I

Now we ALL get the big picture.  You did not like the disc I sent you, so you
decided not to complete the deal.  From what you are saying, you agreed to
cross ship discs with me, but instead, waited until you received mine to
evaluate it.  After deciding you did'nt like it, you waited for me to get angry
enough to post a message asking about the transaction, thereby giving you
enough reason to throw a tantrum and send my disc back, making it look as if
*I* were the reason the trade fell thru, instead of you.  Read your above
statement.  You said it.
 TW> won't put up with some adolescent moron with an attitude. You need

Againg, name calling.
 TW> a sense of perspective. We're talking about you didn't get an
 TW> adult cdrom on time. No one died. No one lost their job. You just

That is irrelevant.  You agreed to trade discs.  You did'nt.  I was withing my
right to be disappointed and angry.  I shipped off a $25 disc on blind faith,
and you did not.  Your fault, not mine.

 TW> didn't get your jollies a week earlier. I suppose your mother
 TW> never told you that you can attract more flies with honey than
 TW> vinegar.

 My mother told me plenty of things.  The first was to be truthful.  I was, you
were not.  When I sent you a disc, after you agreed to send one in trade but
did not, there is NO reason that I should be expected to then turn around and
offer you "honey" [read "kiss your ass"] to get you to ship my disc.  I, as
anyone else on these networks know, there are people that rip off honest folk. 
You ripped me off.  I shipped a disc, on my dime, you did'nt like it, pulled
your stunt, then shipped it back to me on your bosses FED-EX account.  You are
out NOTHING, except your good name.
 TW> Next time, try to be a bit civil. You do know how, don't
 TW> you?

Re-read my post.  I was civil.  I stated my dissatisfaction, emphatically as
anyone that had been stolen from should expect to do.  I did not resort to
childish name calling, as you have insisted upon doing.  I view that as a sign
of guilt.  What were your reasons for the name calling?
 TW> As for my mother's stroke, it's not funny; it's not cute; and
 TW> it's none of your business. Don't bother to reply.

If you think I was being funny, offering best wishes to someone in the
hospital, you ARE one disturbed individual.  I have an uncle on his death bed
in the hospital now.  I don't consider it a laughing matter. I offered it
genuinely.  I never accused you of lying about your mother, just about the
scenario involving the disc.
 TW> You've managed to earn the first spot in my twit filter.

If that is your wish, fine.  Rip me off, blast me publicly twice, then put me
in a twit filter so you don't have to hear the truth.  Fine.
 TW> some yo-yo after a terribly tense week of taking care of my mother

Again, names.  sheesh.
 TW> and helping a quadriplegic to set up his computer.

So which is it, helping your sick mother, or an unknown quadriplegic. Now that
things are looking bad for you, you come up with more.

End of thread, after I post my warning.

 * MKRead v1.01 * !h›r¢p îhç ¤¢ ˜àçs ,s‡¢ë ‡‹á îhç hç‹w ss‹p ç'¤à› 梘 Ÿ‹


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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1806
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/02/93 11:53a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

This is a public warning to anyone planning on trading/buying discs from Terry
Woodward.  I shipped a disc to Terry, on the condition he would cross ship a
disc in return, by priority mail.  He failed to do so. After receiving a
message from me, inquiring as to why he failed to complete the trade, he posted
a tirade about how his life was all tied up, and basically what a low-life I
was for asking.  He then in turn, shipped my disc back by overnight FED-EX on
his bosses corporate acccount.  In his next post, he stated that the disc was
not what he expected.  What appears to have happened, is Terry got my disc, did
not like it, and waited for me to complain so he could attempt to shift blame
for the failing trade to me, and try to get a better disc in trade for his.  I
am only posting my opinion as to what transpired, and ask that you consider it
and make your own judgement when thinking of dealing with this individual.  I
will not reply to messages in response to this posting.  End of thread.

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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 1807
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/07/93 12:30p
Subj: Re: STARVECTOR                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Michael Kelly <=-

 MK>    never satisfied.  Are you this customer?  I have not had any dealings
 MK>    with STARVECTOR before and am not associated with them in any way.
 MK>    However, I am almost tempted to order something from them just due to
 MK>    your relentless and seemingly unfounded complaining about them.

 MS> Michael,

 MS> Well it's about time you started ordering from us!  10% off anything
 MS> in the house on your next order - sez me!

 MS> Thanx for the support,

    I would be honored.  However, I do not have a catalog of your products.
    How may I obtain one?


... Tag line thievery ... On the next Geraldo!
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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 1808
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/10/93  6:50a
Subj: Re: Starvector                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Bubba Therrien to Mark Johnsen <=-

 BT> yes i do know where mark. its GROUPWARE and NIGHTOWL 9 not 8 is 25
     ^   ^
    Capitalize these.
 BT> bux. i think that might even be about 22% wouldn't you say?
     ^^^  ^
    Please, "dollars" or "bucks" if you will.
 BT> heres his number if you doubt me, i have a recipt to prove it!
         ^                                      ^^^^^^
    "Here is" would be appropriate.     Is this related to a receipt?

    Your posts are truly eye sores in this echo.


... .... ya says i be dang stewpid!!  hows yew figer dat?
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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 1809
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/10/93  7:00a
Subj: Re: $$$                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Bubba Therrien to Tim Klan <=-

 BT> I did ask the Ups man to come back. he was in a hurry, and    the
                   ^^^^^^^               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Small wonder.  Most UPS customers do not tell the delivery man to
    "take their time" delivering the package.  It would seem that he
    did not want to hear your whining either.

 BT> fact that my check was not acceptable offended me personally.

 And if you ran a business you might also be somewhat hesitant to accept
 checks as well.  It only takes a few dishonest individuals to take the
 profit right out of STARVECTOR's business.  STARVECTOR is in business
 to make money.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with that either.

 BT> i wish to drop this subject ..........

 Consider it dropped.


... This tagline is made just for Bubba Therrien
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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 1810
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/10/93  7:09a
Subj: Re: $$$                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Bubba Therrien to Mike Shannon <=-

 BT> MIKE! glad to see  you write to me istead of everyone else. I thought
 BT> this matter was laid to rest! I would have "PAID" for it if you had
 BT> excepted my check, NO I dont expect special or indifferent treatment

 By the way, C.O.D. is generally understood in the business world to mean
 Cash On Delivery.  Not Check On Delivery (although some will accept this).

 BT> from anyone due to my abiltities or not....however my income is so
 BT> that i have to keep it in a checking account, I can not drive. So what
 BT> are my alternatives??  drop the subject. I have found another

 A credit card might be a possible solution.

 BT> distributor that accepts my GOOD check. and I have not had any problem

 There are thousands of inmates serving time for writing what they called
 "GOOD" checks.  I am in no way implying that you are this type of check
 writer.  However, STARVECTOR (or any other company) does not know you like
 you or your friends do.  They cannot take the chance either.  Please
 put yourself in their situation and you will better understand.

 BT> with His company at all. As matter of fact NIGHTowl 9 is only $25.00

 And it would appear that you had no problem with STARVECTOR either.


... If it wasn't for C, we would be using BASI, PASAL and OBOL!
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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 1811
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/10/93  7:29a
Subj: Re: nightowl 9                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Bubba Therrien to All <=-

 BT> i seen that mike shannon is selling nightowl 9 for $37.00
 BT> tell me is that extorsion or price fixing?

    Actually it is called making profit.  And Mike Shannon has no reason
    to be ashamed of it.  The profit he makes from his sales will generally
    be used to perhaps buy products that my company makes, thereby making
    profit for my company.  My company may then turn around and have a good
    year and give us all better raises.  I may use a portion of my increased
    income to purchase more CD's next year.

    Extortion implies that you have "no choice" but to buy from someone.  So
    we can see that extortion does not apply here.  Price fixing implies that
    Mike is in agreement with other vendors to artificially keep the price
    high.  That does not appear to be the case here either since GroupWare
    sold it to you for less.

 BT> I just bought NIGHTOWL 9 for    $25.  from groupware...

    Of course, the market place sets the prices.  Mike will either have to
    meet or beat the competitions prices or his sales will suffer.  But he
    already knows this, no doubt.  But you get what you pay for as well.
    The lowest price does not always equate to the best "value" as simple
    minds might think.  Many mail order firms offer low prices, but if the
    product breaks or does not meet your needs, you are out of luck.  No
    support, no returns/refunds, etc.

 BT> he claims the lowest prices available.....MIKE you had better  drop
 BT> that $37. price tag to $24.95 if you want to be the lowest price guy.

    If his business is not off, he should keep it at $37.  If sales begin
    to drop, then he should come down appropriately.  I get so tired of
    seeing customers get upset because they find out that their supplier
    is making a profit on the sale!  How long do you think they would be
    around if they were not?

    Finally, if you do not want to do business with him, that is your choice.
    But your continual complaints and negative messages concerning him and
    his small business are tiresome.  Please refrain from further attacks.


... SENILE.COM found . . . Out Of Memory . . .
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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 1812
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 07/10/93  7:35a
Subj: Re: Starvector                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mark Johnsen to Bubba Therrien <=-

 MJ> Okay Bubba, that's twice today that you've said that, time to put up or
 MJ> shut up!  Here's a few RANDOMLY selected titles and prices Mike has

 MJ> Until then, I'll stick with the *ESTABLISHED*, *REPUTABLE* vendors on the
 MJ> board such as Mike Shannon (StarVector) and Boris O'.

Glad to see that I am not the only one who takes offense with his posts. <g>


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1813
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 07/11/93 10:21a
Subj: REVIEW OF "DIGITAL DREAMS               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Nope. Send it to anyone you choose. Heck, I figured I posted it on an 
international echo just so as many folks could read it as possible. 
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1814
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/12/93  7:16a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: 5251
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> This is a public warning to anyone planning on trading/buying discs f
-> Woodward.  I shipped a disc to Terry, on the condition he would cross

And this is a public warning for you to stop whining.  EOT.

tim
moderator
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From: GREG SPEED                             Number: 1815
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 07/12/93 10:07p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE$                         Refer: 5055
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Do you still have nix pix 1? I've been looking for if for a while m
myself. thanks Greg Speed
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From: SHANE TUCKER                           Number: 1816
  To: CLIF DANIEL                              Date: 07/11/93 11:59a
Subj: Microsoft Office 3.0                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

my name is shane tucker and i am interested in buying some of those cd's that
is if they are for sale?

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1817
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 07/08/93  8:12a
Subj: 7th guest trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >>  >>Sears carries it for $59 at all it's stores...... 
 
  >>You shouldn't spout information you don't know. Our Sears in Casper, 
  >>Wyoming wants $79, as I'm sure most do. Sears almost _always_ 
  >>charges MSRP, or real close to it. They must have made a mistake at 
  >>yours, because they would never sell it that cheap. 
 
  >>I saw it (7th Guest) yesterday at Sam's Club for $45. 
 
  >That's irrelevant. We were talking about Sears. Sears being the key 
  >word. Not one mention of wanting to know where it was cheapest. 
 
Excuse me.  I thought a good deal was more relevant in this echo than 
bitching about Sears.  Regards. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1818
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/08/93  8:17a
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>JL>Mike Shannon of StarVector is a fine businessman.  He offers prices that 
  >JL>are very hard for me to beat most of the time.  I have even ordered some 
  >JL>discs from him when a customer needed something that my suppliers didn't 
  >JL>carry. He was polite and delivery was prompt. 
 
MS>This kind of praise is almost hard to believe from a fellow dealer!  You 
  >sir are a gentleman and a scholar.  <stroke, stroke>  8) 
 
Hey, the truth is the truth.  I knew that guy was going to be trouble as 
soon as he started bringing up his disability.  I am SURE you could have 
seen his disability right through the mail carrier! ;)  I have a 
disability myself due to a back injury.  That is why I am trying to 
shift my income to something I can do without any pain, but I don't 
expect the world to rotate around me because of it. 
 
MS>Anyway, thanks so much for the kind words, and let me know if there's 
  >anything else you need.  Take 10% off your next order, too. 
 
Great!  I appreciate it.  I'll have to look for something I don't carry. 
Thanks again. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 1819
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/05/93  5:49p
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: DENNIS STERNER                         Number: 1820
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  3:41p
Subj: POWERPAK GOLD                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
POWERPAK GOLD CD-ROM Disc - Fall 1992 - version 3.0 revised - 
        includes 7000+ files - best of 1992 shareware - 
        features APOGEE GAME Collection - sysop ready - 
        from Florida's Lion's Den, Inc. - 
        new in shrinkwrap 
 
2 copies available - $20 each
 
 
Leave message here or call 717-637-2972.
 
 
Dennis

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From: MAHMUT KURSUN                          Number: 1821
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 07/10/93 12:00a
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I everyone,  Does anyone have a CD full of *.MOD's, *.WAV's, *.VOC's
 > ect?

call Knowledge Media, they have the Resource Library Audio CDROM
400 MB, uncompressed MOD/WAV/VOC and other Music Stuff. 25$

800-78-CDROM, 916-872-3826
Knowledge Media
436 Nunneley Rd. #B
Paradise, CA 95969

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From: DAVID MARLOW                           Number: 1822
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93 12:56a
Subj: CD-ROM WABTED                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DO YOU OR ANYONE YOU KNOW WANT TO UNLOAD A SEGA
GENESIS CD-ROM ON ANYONE???


IF SO PLEASE LEAVE MAIL!!

MR. CAVALIER



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From: PEYTON NORMAN                          Number: 1823
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  9:23p
Subj: Cd Rom discs                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I carry over 400 titles in stock, 40 XXX titles and 10 Full XXX movies
new titles come in every day.
If you are looking for CD~s just call
                                

        CD~S and More
         13526 Canal Dr
        Perdido Key, FL 32507
        1-904-492-7483

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From: TROY JOHNSON                           Number: 1824
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  3:44p
Subj: Pioneer 6 disk changer                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have another Pioneer six disk changer for sale, It is brand new used
about a week for testing..I have the box and original sales ticket..

I am asking 800.00 o.b.o.

Don't get crazy on the offer, I don't need to sell it that bad

VOICE 702 459 8862
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From: DARRELL CHILDS                         Number: 1825
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/10/93  6:36p
Subj: $$Money$$                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Sysop

DR>Are you looking for more ways to increase the profitability of your BBS? Sel
DR> CD-ROMs to your users is an excellent way to increase revenues.  And CD-ROM
DR>ernational can help.  The best part is: you don't have to stock anything!  C
DR>or send NetMail for more information.

DR>Dave Reed
DR>CD-ROM International
DR>(800) 678-2374 / (509) 754-0724  (Voice)
DR>(509) 754-0109  (BBS/Fax)
DR>1:344/79  (FidoNet)

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 Hi Dave,
Please send me more information on the CD-ROM. I am looking for a CD-ROM
please let me know or I will call you at the 1-800 number.
                                                 Thank you
                                               Darrell 1:387/440


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 1826
  To: KEVIN OYAMA                              Date: 07/10/93  5:54p
Subj: NixPix1                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 KO> Heard you may have a disk for sale - do you still have it available?!

I have an extra copy.  $80 (includes shipping).

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From: JERRY CORNELIUS                        Number: 1827
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/10/93  5:57p
Subj: Lowest prices                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> if he posts it.  If so, I'll be glad to meet or beat that too, but one
 MS> thing I'll never do is chop the bottom out of a market just for the sake
 MS> of saying, "I have the lowest price!".  It's well known in business that
 MS> having the LOWEST "advertised" price is not always the BEST strategy as
 MS> far as NET profit is concerned!

Back when you were warring with Free Spirit Software in this echo, your
battlecry was that you had the lowest prices and you could not be beat.  You
then undercut them by a nickel.  I'm not sure what "chopping the bottom out of
a market" entails, but it seems to me that either a dealer has the lowest price
on an item, or s/he doesn't.  If s/he doesn't, then it wouldn't be right to
claim that it was so, would it?

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From: JERRY CORNELIUS                        Number: 1828
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/10/93 10:07p
Subj: Eh?                                     Refer: NONE
Read: 07/13/93  9:09a                       Private: No 

09 Jul 93 09:12, Tim Helton wrote to Bubba Therrien:

 TH> I've never cut anyone's feed to this echo, but you're pushing me to the
 TH> limit.  Stop whining.  This is your last chance, bubba.  EOT.

I understood that you cut that fellow from Free Spirit Software off.  I think
his name was Mike Mann, I still see him at the computer swaps.  Did I
misunderstand your post when you said that you took care of him?

BTW, what's your voice telephone number?

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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 1829
  To: BOB HALL                                 Date: 07/10/93  9:26p
Subj: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE:                  Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93  7:38p                       Private: No 

BH>DP>What happened to Tim? 
 
BH>He is still around, I wandered off into the wrong echo. 
BH>BOB 
BH>:-) 
 
Hehe - actually I read your response about an hour after my response got shot 
off through the net!  <G> 
 
Later, 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
The CD PowerBox Guys! 
 
 
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1830
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/11/93  6:25p
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> Ismail's advertised price is $29, which I have 
 MS> gladly matched for those
 MS> who have quoted it, but as for the $25 figure, let's just wait and see
 MS> if he posts it.  If so, I'll be glad to meet or beat that too, but one
 MS> thing I'll never do is chop the bottom out of a 
 MS> market just for the sake
 MS> of saying, "I have the lowest price!".  It's well 
 MS> known in business that
 MS> having the LOWEST "advertised" price is not always 
 MS> the BEST strategy as
 MS> far as NET profit is concerned!

And most of his prices on all CDs except Nightowl 9 are higher than most of
us..so save now and pay higher later <g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1831
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  6:29p
Subj: adult cds available                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

             ************************************************
              PCJ ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST - Last update: 7/10
             ************************************************
             Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)  ** BBS Ready
             Orders - 800-547-7817 / Inquiries - 615-339-0235
 
 101 POSITIONS 1..(Professionally produced educational movies)...69.95
 101 POSITIONS 2..(Professionally produced educational movies)...69.95
 ADULT PALATE..(Stills from films-Hi-Rez-Windows)................32.95
 ADULT REFERENCE LIBRARY..(500 MB-2500 Gifs-Fetishes Galore).....29.95
 AFTER DARK Trilogy..(Movie shorts-video for windows included)...48.95
 AMATEUR MODELS..(500+ centerfold pics-All SVGA or 24 bit **)....38.95
 ANIMATION FANTASIES I..(105 animations/moving pics).............31.95
 ANIMATION FANTASIES II..(105 animations/moving pics)............31.95
 ASIAN LADIES..(660 mb-oriental x-rated pics)....................33.95
 BEST of VIVID Clips..(Movie clips using T.M.M. technology)......69.95
 BUSTY BABES..(Gifs-800+ celebrities-amateur **).................32.95
 CLUB EXPOSE..(Interactive movie clips)..........................46.95
 DIGITAL DANCING..(Interactive strip game).......................48.95
 DIGITAL DREAMS..(All R-SVGA-660+ mb **).........................27.95
 DIRTY TALK..(Movie-38 minutes-4 ladies).........................48.95
 DOORS of PASSION..(Interactive movie-hidden doors)..............46.95
 ECSTASY Hot Pics I..(560 mb-330 anims-470 stories-2600 gifs **).32.95
 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS..(710 mb-4300+ gifs/viewers)..................35.95
 FOR ADULTS ONLY 2..(680+ mb-VGA/SVGA gifs-anims-games-text **)..36.95
 FOR ADULTS ONLY 3..(680+ mb-VGA/SVGA gifs-anims-games-text **)..36.95
 GBL..(Gay/Bi/Lez-400+ hard to find alternate lifesytle pics)....36.95
 GIFFY GOLD (All R-Giffy girls-San Diego models **)..............36.95
 GIRLS of VIVID..(500 hand picked slides)........................66.95
 HIDDEN OBSESSIONS..(Fractal compression movie)..................48.95
 HOUSE of DREAMS..(Exotic fantasy movie-DOS fractal/Mac QTime)...48.95
 ISLAND GIRLS..(Vga gifs-swimsuits/nudes-Hawaii).................44.95
 KAMA SUTRA..(Movie clips using T.M.M. technology)...............69.95
 LOCAL GIRLS..(Vga gifs-swimsuits/nudes-Hawaii)..................44.95
 MOVING FANTASIES..(200 adult movie shorts-GL/FLI)...............29.95
 MY FIRST TIME..(80 Minutes-2 discs-movie).......................48.95
 NIGHT WATCH (Interactive full-length movie).....................48.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 2..(530 mb-scans/amusements **).................32.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 3..(630 mb **)..................................32.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 4..(Best of Windy City scans **)................32.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 5..(**).........................................32.95
 PC-PIX 1..(600+ mb gifs **).....................................33.95
 PC-PIX 2..(630+ mb gifs-no dupes with v1 **)....................33.95
 PC-PIX 3..(660+ mb gifs-no dupes with v1 or v2 **)..............33.95
 PHOTO GALLERY..(R-rated-best of Penthouse shoot-Steve Hicks)....38.95
 PHYSICAL THERAPY... ............................................24.95
 PORKWARE 1..(2024 gigs-37 targa files-660 mb)...................36.95
 PORKWARE 2..(3308 gifs-135 movies-648 mb).......................36.95
 PRIVATE COLLECTION I..(675 mb-SVGA gifs **).....................34.95
 PRIVATE COLLECTION II..(650 mb-SVGA gifs-no dupes with v1 **)...34.95
 PRIVATE PICTURES 1..(600 images-70 mini-movies).................36.95
 RIMFIRE PACIFIC..(Best of adult movie clips)....................48.95
 SEEDY Rom #1....................................................34.95
 SEEDY Rom #2....................................................34.95
 SEEDY Rom #3....................................................34.95
 SEEDY Rom #4....................................................34.95
 SEEDY Rom #5....................................................34.95
 SEEDY Rom #6....................................................34.95
 SEEDY ROM 6-Pak..(29,000+ files-no dupes-gifs/anims/text)......128.95
 SEEDY ROM 7th Heaven..(2900+ gifs)..............................31.95
 SEEDY ROM MOVIE Disc..(Best of amateur/profsnl-60+ minutes).....42.95
 SEYMORE BUTTS (Interactive movie disc-100+ minutes-Windows).....48.95
 SMUTWARE..(640+ mb-1000 SVGA gifs-2000 VGA gifs-100 anims **)...29.95
 SO MUCH STAREWARE..(579 mb-2600 gifs-text-200 anims-sound **)...32.95
 SOUTHERN BEAUTIES..(1000+ gifs-all new-SVGA from slides)........39.95
 STORM I..(700+ mb-5268 VGA gifs-87 anims-574 stories **)........28.95
 STORM II..(656+ mb-VGA/SVGA gifs-slide shows **)................28.95
 STORM III..(3000+ stills-half gay **)...........................28.95
 STORM 3-Pak.....................................................78.95
 VISUAL FANTASIES..(600+ mb-2600+ gifs)..........................34.95
 VOLCANO..(400 VGA-900 SVGA R-rated gifs)........................35.95
 Wicked-X..(Movie-uses Photo CD technology)......................59.95
 X-Treme..(Best of overseas scans/automations)...................29.95
 XXX Extreme..(Gifs-Anims).......................................34.95

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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 1832
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  4:39p
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Could someone tell me something about the difference between the older and
newer (3.0) Busty Babes?  Also, looking for a CD with lots of celebraty gif's
on it.

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From: PATRICK SHEN                           Number: 1833
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/10/93  4:42p
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have following CD-ROMs for sale.  All CD-ROMs are in New Condition. Add $3
for UPS or Priority Mail shipping.

7th Guest by Virgin Games (2 CD set).  Smooth full motion video.  Best CD
ever made.                                    --------------  $50.00

ChessMaster 3000  MPC.  The best chess program in the world.  Moves spoken
in five different notations.  Photo realistic boards and pieces in 256 color
3D.  Excellent for beginner or master.  With all original manuals and
Registration card.                    -------------  $27.00

Wing Commander/Ultima VI.  Get 2 award winning games on one excellent CD
Space simulation and Adventure.  With all manuals and Registration card.
                                             ------------------  $33.00

Mixed-up Mother Goose MPC.  Sierra combines master storytelling with the
classic rhymes to create this children's adventure game.  Children learn
early reading skills and get introduced to the world of computers.
                                          ---------------------  $24.00

Shareware Overload.  Collection of 6100+ Sharewares.  550 MB of Games,
Windows, Business, Sound/Music and much more.      ------------  $20.00

Deathstar Arcade Battles.  The most exciting arcade action and other games
of all time.                           ------------------  $18.00

SelectWare System.  The Ultimate Software Demo System.   ------  $10.00

If you are interested, please reply here to contact me at E-mail address
below.

Patrick Shen America Online: Pat Shen CompuServe: 72072,3612 InterNet:
Pat Shen#aol.com or 72072.3612@compuserve.com

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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 1834
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  9:26a
Subj: Encyclopedia CD's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   I am looking for an Encyclopedia CD collection that my children can utilize
as a good reference source for school.  I have heard that there exists a few
versions on the market today.  Can anyone provide me info on what's available
on the market.  The pros and cons to utilizing a CD version compared to that of
hard copy etc.  Also where does one look for the best competitive prices wrt to
CD ROM?
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 1835
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  9:28a
Subj: CD Referenece Material ?                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Does anyone know where to find a good catalog that lists what CDs are
available wrt to Reference Material  i.e. CRC HandBook , Handbook of
Mathematical,Scientific and Engineering formulas and tables.
  I would like to move to a Soft Technical reference library and get ride of
all these books that clutter my office...m2
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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 1836
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/11/93 12:26a
Subj: trade?                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested.  I'll call you to make arrangements after answering your
questions and after I pose a couple more.


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1837
  To: JERRY CORNELIUS                          Date: 07/13/93  9:16a
Subj: Eh?                                     Refer: 5273
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->  TH> I've never cut anyone's feed to this echo, but you're pushing me
->  TH> limit.  Stop whining.  This is your last chance, bubba.  EOT.
->
-> I understood that you cut that fellow from Free Spirit Software off.
-> his name was Mike Mann, I still see him at the computer swaps.  Did I
-> misunderstand your post when you said that you took care of him?

I didn't cut Mike's feed.  I called his boss (Joe Hubbard) and *he* took
care of the situation.  As to what action Joe took, I don't know.

-> BTW, what's your voice telephone number?

Tim Helton
Data Express, Inc.
6799 Windfaire Dr.
Norcross, GA 30093

Voice: 404-621-9210
FAX  : 404-621-9122
BBS  : 404-491-1405
FIDO : 1:133/515
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1838
  To: VINCENT TESTA                            Date: 07/11/93 12:54a
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

VT> MS> ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS!   NOW IN STOCK - THE LATEST AND GREATEST
VT> MS> NIGHT OWL OF ALL . . . . . . . . .
VT> MS>                                     . . . N  I  G  H  T      O  W  L
VT> MS>          +-+--+---+                           |   |        +=======+
VT> MS> PRICE:   | $37.00 |                       ====|===|====    ||     ||

VT> >>> WE WILL NOT BE UNDERSOLD ON THIS TITLE!  FIND IT FOR LESS?  IF IT'S
VT> >>> A LEGITIMATE AD, WE'LL BEAT THE PRICE
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

VT>Not to be rude or cheap..but the night owl 9's can be bought for $29 ;-)

No problem.  I know they can be had for $29, which is why I guarantee I
won't be undersold on this title.  As I said, if you find a legit ad for
less, just let me know and I'll go lower, or at least match the price.

Take care,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1839
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 07/11/93 12:54a
Subj: Starvector                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CB>Now you have paid him for his endorsement.

Not until he purchases something.  THEN I have paid him, and would
gladly do it again.  With as much beating as I've taken in this
conference over the months, I'm all too happy to reward someone when
they say something nice about me, believe me!  8)

CB>And, as a side effect, destroyed any pretense this echo had toward
CB>objective comments.

Since when has there been a pretense that ALL comments in this conference
are objective anyway?

Later,

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1840
  To: BRIAN POLAK                              Date: 07/11/93 12:54a
Subj: Adult cd prices                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BP>        Can you tell me more about Moving Fantasies and about the two
version
BP>of Digital Dreams available, what is the difference?  What is on them; gifs,
BP>text, animation?  Also, I am looking for a CD containing a lot of different
BP>versions of the Bible, the Toarh, and the Koran for a research project.  It
BP>should contain the King James version, and an original version in Greek
(woul

Brian,

Moving Fantasies has 198 movie clips in FLI and GL format.  Some have
Soundblaster support too.  The only Digital Dreams I carry is the Ero Tek
version, which is all .GIF files, and is more of an "R" rated disc.  For a
good Bible CD, try Toolworks Bible Library, which has 9 Bibles and 20
reference books.  Excellent disc.  Pricing:  Moving Fantasies $29, Digital
Dreams $29, Bible Library $31.

Call anytime if I can be of further help.

Thanks,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1841
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/11/93 12:54a
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MW>Howdy, just got a CD-ROM and I like to know more about Night Owl ?
MW>I run a BBS and I am looking for CD's to put online.

Night Owl 9 is a 670mb CD with all 1993 file dates, and files grouped
into 60 file areas.  Very little to no duplication to previous Night
Owl releases, and perfect for online use with built-in file listings.
For BBS use, I'd rate Night Owl 9, Pier2, and Software Vault 2 as the
best I've seen.  Pricing:  Night Owl 9 $37, Pier2 $37, and Software
Vault 2 $24.

Give me a call if you need any further info.

Talk to ya later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1842
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93 12:54a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 July 1993                ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST         Last update: 7/01
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------

 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 Animation Fantasies 1.........29.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Animation Fantasies 2.........29.00    Porkware 2 (New!).............37.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Busty Babes...................33.00    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........29.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Erotic Encounters.............36.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Exotic Girls (Closeout).......25.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........59.00
 Giffy Gold ("R"-rated)........39.00    Smutware......................32.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................34.50    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................34.50    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................34.50    Storm 2.......................30.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............34.50    Storm 3.......................31.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......28.00    Storm 3-Pak...................75.00
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Swimwear & More (New!)........29.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....59.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Nightwatch Interactive (Wow!).59.00    Tropical Girls (Closeout).....25.00
 PC-PIX 1......................30.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 PC-PIX 2......................30.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 PC-PIX 3......................30.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1843
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93 12:54a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 IN STOCK!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS!   NOW IN STOCK - THE LATEST AND GREATEST
NIGHT OWL OF ALL . . . . . . . . .
                                    . . . N  I  G  H  T      O  W  L
         +--------+                           |   |        +=======+
PRICE:   | $37.00 |                       ====|===|====    ||     ||
         +--------+                           |   |        ||     ||
                                          ====|===|====    +=======|
      --[ NOW SHIPPING! ]--                   |   |               ||
                                                                  ||
                                                                  ||
Get Night Owl 8 . . . . . . . . . for ONLY $25 additional!

CALL TO ORDER YOUR COPY TODAY! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1-800-767-1284

>> WE WILL NOT BE UNDERSOLD ON THIS TITLE!  FIND IT FOR LESS?  IF IT'S A
>> LEGITIMATE AD, WE'LL BEAT THE PRICE - GUARANTEED!

***************************************************************************
Plus, all Starvector customers between now and July 17th will automatically
be entered in our drawing for a FREE PIER 2 shareware CD!  Drawing will be
held on Monday, July 19th, with the WINNER ANNOUNCED ON RIME AND FIDONET!
***************************************************************************

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| your name, address, and phone number, and mail it to:  Starvector       |
| Software * PO BOX 8160 * Yakima WA 98908.  All entries must be received |
| by Saturday July 17th to qualify.  Entry into this giveaway will be     |
| automatic for all Starvector customers placing orders between June 22,  |
| and July 17th.  One entry per person please.  Drawing held July 19th.   |
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 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 BBS: 509-457-0206 COMING SOON!!  ONLINE ORDERING & CD-ROM FILE LISTINGS!!!
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA þ MC þ AMEX þ DISCOVER þ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs þ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: KEVIN LAM                              Number: 1844
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93  7:08a
Subj: CD-ROM writers                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello, for all who are willing to provide the information, I have a question. 
 
I would like to know some stats and other such information, including the 
capacity, speeds and prices of a CD-ROM writer.  Just for the info. 
 
Thanks... 
 
 
 
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From: KEVIN LAM                              Number: 1845
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/08/93  7:08a
Subj: Cd Sale!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 07-06-93 Mike Shannon wrote to All... 
 
 MS>  Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 
 MS> add'l) 
 MS>  
 
What if I'm not a sysop, and want 3-day shipping?  How much will it cost? 
 
(To Canada, remember) 
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From: KEVIN LAM                              Number: 1846
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/11/93  7:11a
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 07-08-93 Mike Shannon wrote to Bubba Therrien... 
 
 MS>  
 MS> BT>I just bought NIGHTOWL 9 for    $25.  from groupware... 
 MS>  
 MS> Ismail's advertised price is $29, which I have gladly matched for 
 MS> those 
 
I think your prices are excellent.  I haven't ordered yet, but plan to as 
soon as my income (er, my allowance from Dad :) is settled.  I have been 
looking at Carmen SanDiego DLX and in Canada, my lowest quote is $99.99. 
You've got it for $28.50 US.  WOW! 
 
You don't have to take this guy's "I bought this for less".  All anybody has 
to do is say "I bought this there for $xx" and he'd upset everybody. 
 
P.S.  How much is 3-day air shipping to Canada (Ottawa-area) and how long 
does regular shipping take? 
 
Hope to order soon. 
 
 
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From: KEVIN LAM                              Number: 1847
  To: MICHAEL KANKO                            Date: 07/11/93  7:11a
Subj: N Owl                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 07-10-93 MICHAEL KANKO wrote to ALL... 
 
 MK> Hi, does anyone here know about how much the new Night Owl 9 is? 
 MK>  
 
From STARVECTOR, I think it's $37 
 
Not necessarily the best price but I've heard highly and think that's your 
best value.  Starvector is getting a good reputation around here, fast  
shipping, low prices, great service... 
 
I intend to order from them myself.. 
 
 
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 1848
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93 10:17a
Subj: MESSAGES                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day all!
    This is just a reminder that I will be unable to answer your
inquiries over the next week, since I'm at Comdex (and the laptop
doesn't have a modem!) If you've sent me a message before reading this
one, and didn't receive a reply before reading this one, you'll
definitely be hearing from me after the 19th. (I'm not ignoring you, I'm
just not here!) ...My apologies to everyone who has written.

   Vince
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From: TONY MASSEY                            Number: 1849
  To: ERICK GROWCOCK                           Date: 07/11/93  3:02p
Subj: Sony CD-Rom for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EG>    Lets see, Cd-Rom titles included:

EG>    MicroSoft BookShelf (1991)
EG>    Languages of the World
EG>    Mixed-Up mother goose
EG>    U.S. Atlas
EG>    National Geographic Mammals

Wanna trade any for Sherlock Holmes and Creative Sounds???

Tony
(215) 695-9654 Voice
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From: TONY MASSEY                            Number: 1850
  To: BOB KELLY                                Date: 07/11/93  3:04p
Subj: Here We Are                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BK>In a message originally to All, Sultan Qamar stated:

BK>SQ>    Cheers BBS in beautiful Cambridge, Ontario, Canada is
BK>SQ>    proud to be carrying this echo !!

BK>And I'm so proud you told us about it...

And I'm so proud that you're so proud that Cheers told us about it!!!
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 1851
  To: BRIAN POLAK                              Date: 07/10/93  2:22p
Subj: Which is best?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BP> Hi Joe,
BP>        How do you go about cleaning your drive?  I have a cleaning CD 
BP> that I use in my audio CD player, but it does not work in my mitsumi. 
BP> Any help is greatly appreciated.

BP>                                    Talk Later
BP>                                         Brian
BP>                           Internet:brian.polak@travel.com
BP>                           Fidonetmail: 1:100/635


Hi Bryan,
The cleaning cd should work in your mitsumi, are you running a cd-audio player?
Try putting the cd in the drive then accessing the drive with an audio player..
That should do it..
I take a swab dipped in cleaning fluid to mine, be real careful as not to put
very much pressure on the "eye"..
You will probably need to clean the cd also. I don't know the absolute best way
of doing it, but I use windex with a soft lint free cloth. If you use a cloth
that is abrasive you might scratch the cd, and wee all know that the cd drives
hates scratches.. 

-Joe
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 1852
  To: RICHARD VONZEL                           Date: 07/10/93  2:27p
Subj: Which Is Best?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RV>   Thanks for the info, I have 2 MIt's in a server and 2 in my 
RV> workstation...
RV> Richard.

Yeah, headache time <g>.. I had a drive in one of my workstations also,
everytime a caller would access the drive in the workstation the net would
slowwwwwwwwwww down..
Have you ran a "data flow" test from your server cd drive to a workstation? The
reason I ask is I am kinda surprised that the transfer speed is so slow!
I use cdspeed and get apx. 30k with the mit's and 10-20k with the hitachi's,
75k with the hard drives..
Sounds kinda slow, but I have set my server config just about all the way's
possible. Bye the way I run Lantastic 2mbps boards for the network.. 

-Joe
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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 1853
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/11/93  3:26p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Ships Nex               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Lee Noga to All <=-

 LN> The infamous "Busty Babes" will be back on the market and shipping

Sounds good.  Would you mind giving it a 'rating' like the movie scale
so I could know what to expect, like a R; PG; X; XXX; or what?  Also,
I happened to find an old message from you dated in April that mentioned
Ecstacy, and you said it was XXX.  If you have time would you mind listing
a few of the adult CDs and their ratings (in your opinion)?  I am
sometimes surprised that 'adult' CDs are the bathing suit shots.

Thanks in advance.



... Remember when sex was dirty and the air was clean?
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From: DON DEMAERE                            Number: 1854
  To: MICHAEL CRAM                             Date: 07/11/93  7:45a
Subj: SONY CDU-7205/N                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Recently you wrote:

 MC>     I have a barely used sony CDU 7205/n for sale.  It's an external
 MC> slim liny CD ROM drive using the Sony bus card.  Reads CD-ROM 1 and 2
 MC> disks, audio combined cd-rom, High Sierra, ISO-9660, Red and Yellow book
 MC> audio and audio CD's.

How much do you want for it (US$, including shipping) ?

Don

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From: STEVE PHILLIPS                         Number: 1855
  To: JOHN CUSTER                              Date: 07/12/93  1:01a
Subj: Secret Weapons                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi, John.

You can send a check for SWOTL to:

    Steve Phillips
    14608 Buckton Lane    Matthews, NC  28105

Enjoy..

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From: BOB CENTERBAR                          Number: 1856
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  1:28p
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm in the market for an adult CD for a BBS but want to make real sure 
that the images will not land me in court over the copywrite laws. 
 
The current issue of BoardWatch list numerous files by both name, logo and 
company that in fact are in court over their images being used on several 
currently available CD's. 
 
Is there an adult CD, R Rated, with nude and semi-nude images that I could 
use without any worry.  Some told me that the Giffy Girls CD came with a 
release, any truth to that one? 
 
Thanks in advance.....Bob 
 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50  "Sex on TV can't hurt you, unless you fall off!" 
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From: CAM LERCH                              Number: 1857
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/10/93  7:08p
Subj: Old 600ms CD-ROM drives                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anybody have some old 600ms drives? Maybe older?? I am looking for the
cheapest you can give me.. maybe $175.00 Canadian (With controler card!!) or
without but I need them soon.. I would like a pretty cheap one but I am
reasonable.. So if you got those old drives (Internal or external) just drop
me a note please!!!! soon!!! Thanks for your time!

Ca/\/\

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From: CLIF DANIEL                            Number: 1858
  To: GREG MANTER                              Date: 07/11/93  4:10p
Subj: Microsoft Office 3.0                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GM=>How much would you sell the LOTUS 1-2-3 MPC disc for?


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Greg,
  I havent really set a value on the disk. I haven't been
actively trying to get rid of it. It is an extra copy to
my office just in case something happens to the other.
It is still sealed. We use 123 MPC regularly and we love its
features.  I would make a deal with you in a swap or whatever
else we need to do. I appologize for talking around your 
question. But, I just don't know. It is an unregistered copy.
  Maybe we should talk on the phone. Voice 816 453 9215. Or
I could call you. I would like to have the Office disk just
to have it. I already use Word 4 Win and have the MPC with
Bookshelf CD, however the Office CD would be a good reference
disk for me.  Thanks for the reply.  Call collect if you wish.
     
      Clif Daniel
      Technical Consultant
      (816)453-9215
      Kansas CIty, Missouri

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From: KEVIN ROBBINS                          Number: 1859
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/11/93  6:56p
Subj: Re: Catalog for your products           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   Hello Mike, 
        I would like to recieve one of your catalogs please:

        Kevin Robbins
        14203 Plattsburg Rd
        Kearney, Mo 64060

        Thank you.

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From: BEN WARREN                             Number: 1860
  To: JEREMIAH CASEY                           Date: 07/11/93 10:18p
Subj: Cd-Rom For Sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jeremiah,in answer to your questions,the drive is 500 ms average access
time and includes the controller card,cables and cdaudio and cd-rom
device driver w/dos extensions.If you want it call me at 913-236-6930 or
913-236-6316.I'll pay shipping and will ship to you upon receipt of a
money order or your check clearing.I'll ship UPS ground.The drive coms
with full warranty and the manuals.transfer rate is 156kps.thank you.
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From: TONY MACE                              Number: 1861
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  5:24a
Subj: Audio Cable Needed                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

I need a audio cable to go from a Toshiba XM-3201 (int) to my PAS16.  I am
currently using the headphone jack to the line in on the back of the pas and
this in a pain in the but.

Please call 308-487-5378 (collect even), least msg here or netmail at
1:14/618@fidonet.org

Tony

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 1862
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 07/12/93 10:47a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Jul 09 17:06>, Jim Reed of 1:377/50@fidonet writes:

MS>I have a copy of 7th Guest that I would like to trade for CD's. If you have
MS>anything you no longer need, and would like to have this fantastic CD, 
MS>leavea message and maybe we can make a deal!

 JR> Hi Michael;
 JR>         I have an adult CD, Animated Fantasies Vol 2 that I would 
 JR> trade
 JR>         for 7TH.  Just drop me a line if your interested.
 JR>                                 /JIM/

I am not familiar with this CD. Can you give a brief intro?
Tahnks,
Michael Sells

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 1863
  To: BOB KELLY                                Date: 07/12/93 10:49a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Jul 07 08:04>, Bob Kelly of 1:275/16 writes:

MS>MS> I have a copy of The 7th Guest I would like to trade for other CD's. I
MS>MS> willconsider all trades. What have you got???

 BK> I have the following:

 BK> Phoenix 3.0 Shareware NightOwl Business Applications Disk
 BK> MicroSoft Small Business Consultant

 BK> Interested?

Sorry Bob, I have both of these.
Thanks,
Michael Sells

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1864
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/01/93 10:07p
Subj: PORKER TOO                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>The review has been posted. There's not much on it I don't already have,
BJ>except for one directory <G>.  If you'll give me a "reviewer's price",
BJ>you can go ahead an put it on my tab. Let me know.
BJ>BTW: The installation disk gives evidence of a Pork-Ware II.  If/When
BJ>you get these, I'd like to look at it as well. Cheers!

Bob,

How about 25 bucks for #1?  Fair enough for a "reviewer's price?".
Porkware 2 is on the way for review.

Thanks,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1865
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/01/93 10:08p
Subj: DICT & LANG                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ> MS> CD's on sale at $9.95 each, including Dictionaries and Languages

BJ>I'll take one; send it along with the $6 CD (and Oink 2) to save
BJ>shipping.

Bob,

It's going out to you today, along with the $6 shareware CD, and Oink 2
(for review).

Thanks again,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1866
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/01/93 10:08p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 IS HERE!!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS!   NOW IN STOCK - THE LATEST AND GREATEST
NIGHT OWL OF ALL . . . . . . . . .
                                    . . . N  I  G  H  T      O  W  L
                                              |   |        +=======+
PRICE:  $45.00                            ====|===|====    ||     ||
                                              |   |        ||     ||
SPECIAL EARLY BIRD OFFER                  ====|===|====    +=======|
------------------------                      |   |               ||
Order before July 4, and                                          ||
receive your choice of:                       +-----+             ||
                                              | $45 |
    . Software Vault 2                        +-----+
    . Shareware Studio 2
    . Powerpak 3.0
    . Night Owl 7 . . . . . . . . . for ONLY $15 additional!

or  . Night Owl 8 . . . . . . . . . for ONLY $25 additional!

>> PREVIOUS STARVECTOR CUSTOMERS CALL FOR YOUR SPECIAL PRICE!

CALL TO ORDER YOUR COPY TODAY! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1-800-767-1284
OPERATORS (Rainie & I) ARE STANDING BY!

>> WE WILL NOT BE UNDERSOLD ON THIS TITLE!  FIND IT FOR LESS?  IF IT'S A
>> LEGITIMATE AD, WE'LL BEAT THE PRICE - GUARANTEED!

***************************************************************************
Plus, all Starvector customers between now and July 17th will automatically
be entered in our drawing for a FREE PIER 2 shareware CD!  Drawing will be
held on Monday, July 19th, with the WINNER ANNOUNCED ON RIME AND FIDONET!
***************************************************************************

----- NO PURCHASE NECESSARY -------- GREAT COMPANION FOR NIGHT OWL 8! -----

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| To enter Starvector's PIER 2 GIVEAWAY, simply fill out a postcard with  |
| your name, address, and phone number, and mail it to:  Starvector       |
| Software * PO BOX 8160 * Yakima WA 98908.  All entries must be received |
| by Saturday July 17th to qualify.  Entry into this giveaway will be     |
| automatic for all Starvector customers placing orders between June 22,  |
| and July 17th.  One entry per person please.  Drawing held July 19th.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA þ MC þ AMEX þ DISCOVER þ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs þ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1867
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/01/93 10:08p
Subj: ADULT CD TITLES                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 July 1993                ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST         Last update: 7/01
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------

 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 Animation Fantasies 1.........29.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Animation Fantasies 2.........29.00    Porkware 2 (New!).............37.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Busty Babes...................33.00    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........29.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Erotic Encounters.............36.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Exotic Girls (Closeout).......25.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........59.00
 Giffy Gold ("R"-rated)........39.00    Smutware......................32.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................34.50    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................34.50    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................34.50    Storm 2.......................30.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............34.50    Storm 3.......................31.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......28.00    Storm 3-Pak...................75.00
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Swimwear & More (New!)........29.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....59.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Nightwatch Interactive (Wow!).59.00    Tropical Girls (Closeout).....25.00
 PC-PIX 1......................30.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 PC-PIX 2......................30.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 PC-PIX 3......................30.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA þ MC þ AMEX þ DISCOVER þ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs þ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: DAVID STULTS                           Number: 1868
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 07/02/93  9:08a
Subj: CD-ROM, discs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> DS>    Nightowl 8.0 ..................................... $ 15

>I'll take it + 2.90 for 2nd-day USPS. Leave me you address
>& preferred payment via Netmail if availible or here. Thank

Sorry, that CD has been sold.

David Stults 
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From: DAVID STULTS                           Number: 1869
  To: RON MITCHELL                             Date: 07/02/93  9:09a
Subj: CD-ROM, discs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>  >     Nightowl 8.0 ..................................... $ 15
>  >     Phoenix-CD (also shareware) ...................... $ 10

>If you still have these titles, let me know where to send a MO.

Sorry, both of those have been sold.

David Stults 
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From: JERRY MICKISH                          Number: 1870
  To: ALLAN KENNEDY                            Date: 07/12/93 12:52a
Subj: Re: STAR VECTOR                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the information.


Jerry



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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1871
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/11/93 11:04p
Subj: OUR TRADE                               Refer: NONE
Read: 07/15/93  1:54p                       Private: No 

 -> Please don't give out my phone number on a national echo. It's unlist
 -> for a real good reason.
 TH> If you can't back up your opinions with a voice phone number, then
 TH> don't post.  What are you hiding?

I would like to publicly apologize to you for my posting that you played
favorites.  From the statement you make above, it is clear that you have an
objective outlook.

 * MKRead v1.01 * Two blonds in a Volkswagon: farfromthinkin.


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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 1872
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  3:02a
Subj: Mitsumi drivers needed                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@SUBJECT:MITSUMI DRIVERS NEEDED   &  DISK FOR SALE                   N

    I am in desperite need of some help...  I just got one of the new
Mitsumi's for use on my BBS, and the driver that came with it REFUSES
to cooperate with QEMM.  If ANYONE has the Mitsumi drivers along with
the other driver it came with, could you please ZIP up the installation
diskette that has the drivers on it, and let me know where I could
possibly FREQ it from. The version I have is version 2.1, so I would
be willing to try any version Prior to it.

ON TOPIC POST:

      I have Software Toolworks, 20th Century Almanac for sale,
    if anyone is interested. Excellent shape.  MAKE offer (Resonable)

                Todd

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1873
  To: LEWIS BULLARD                            Date: 07/11/93 11:45a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LB>Pat, I would sure like to read your ads, but the formatting just give
LB>me the
LB>shivers! Please try to straighten this out, so I can comfortably read
LB>them.
LB>It's gotten to the point that I just look at the ad and click forward
LB>This
LB>is a sincere message, and not meant as any kind of flame.

I think you were responding to an ad posted in June, Lewis. The July postings
*should* improve (I hope!)....... BTW, I quoted *your* message verbatim. Was it
formatted that way? The reason I ask is, I *only* have formatting problems on
FIDO, all other NETS carry the messages exactly as posted. Regards, Pat

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1874
  To: STEVE STACY                              Date: 07/11/93 11:45a
Subj: Cde = cd's, educational                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SS>Patrick,  Glad to see that your posts are aligning correctly.  Lookin
SS>forward to your post on Texel bundels.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll get one out to you right away (maybe even in this packet).

Pat

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1875
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/11/93 11:45a
Subj: Let me try again.....                   Refer: NONE
Read: 07/15/93  1:55p                       Private: No 

TH>Good job, Patrick... I can read your ads!  ;)

TH>tim
TH>moderator

Tim,

I am PSYCHED!

Now, let me post a couple hundred right away......

;-)

Pat
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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1876
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/11/93  2:24p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Michael!

Friday July 02 1993, Michael Benge writes to all:

 MB> This is a public warning to anyone planning on trading/buying discs from
 MB> Terry Woodward.  I shipped a disc to Terry, on the condition he would

Take it to netmail or quit your whining.  Terry is a VERY respected man in this
echo, and it'll take a lot more than the likes of you to change that.  Terry is
honest enough that I send discs to him BEFORE being paid.  Aren't you the one
who crys about every deal in the CFORSALE, CLASSIFIEDS or FORSALE echos?  I
think you are...

Welcome to my twit filter, sport.


... D.C.'s Geriatric Park: Home of Arkansaurus Taxanspendus!

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 1877
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93 12:42a
Subj: Assembler CD-ROM                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its Assembler CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
391 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1878
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  1:45a
Subj: RED HOT CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $39.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - MONSTER MEDIA '93'   PRICE - $29.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $30.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - WINBOX - GAMEWARE - CD POWERBOX    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $15. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $55. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
                     24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO


Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1879
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  1:45a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $369.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $459.00
Sony Int 380ms Bare Dr  - $285.00 LIMITED Sony Ext 380ms Kit   - $395.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $14.00ec
Information on the above or 400 + CD titles call (216) 225-3263 anytime !


Boris Osadciw

... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: HENRY ARIAS                            Number: 1880
  To: STEVE PHILLIPS                           Date: 07/12/93  6:00a
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

SP>Sorry - my question wasn't clear. Does all the art (painting, sculptur
SP>and architecture) derive from one period; i.e., Renaissance? Or does t
SP>CD include works from different periods?
SP>
        It spans various time periods. Begins with the cave painting and 
Lascaux and moves right up to modern times. Various artists and movements 
are represented. The database allows one to search by artist, movement, 
time period, painting, architecture, sculpture, etc., also has some spoken 
narration if you have a sound card.. Later <Henry>

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From: BENJAMIN KEEN                          Number: 1881
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  9:36p
Subj: Mac CD ROM Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone have a Mac-compatible CD-ROM? (SCSI) I'm looking around for 
one but I'm too cheap to pay over $400. Cables and driver software 
_strongly_ preferred. Used is fine, multisession Photo CD and double speed 
would be nice but certainly not neccessary, MPC-compliance preferred.

Thanks in advance...
Ben


 This copy of Freddie 1.2.5 is being evaluated.
                     
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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 1882
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  7:01a
Subj: Virtual Valerie                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a title by the name of Virtual Valerie.  I would be
interested in this CD...for the best price I can get it.  Does anyone
out there want to part with their copy?

Al James

-Yes, I got the notion to get it from the Phil Donahue Show when they
demoed it on that show on virtual reality.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1883
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/12/93  7:24a
Subj: CD SALE!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Take yer time, Michael - I have no problem waiting.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1884
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/12/93  7:26a
Subj: New adult cd                            Refer: NONE
Read: 07/15/93  1:57p                       Private: No 

Boy, am I glad to ehar that! I *did* get a reply from the Aussie who posted
the original message - said A$70 was about US$50, but didn't give any details
on contents, etc. (you know me - gotta have the data!!). Gimme a buzz when
you're ready to distribute. Cheers!

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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 1885
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/12/93 12:51p
Subj: CD SALE!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Mike

 > either, so don't worry.  I've got about 450 CD's
 > coming from Chestnut,

Send me a catalog of these will you....Email or snail will do. I should be in
your data base some where.....

PS. With all the extra orders you are getting from Bubba are you going to put
him on the pay roll....( Great Big Grin) (((((((((-;

..Red..

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From: HOWARD ABRAHAM                         Number: 1886
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  7:10p
Subj: sierra                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested in buying any used Sierra CD-ROM games that are in good shape
and are complete with all documentation.

call 612-561-2582 or post here with info

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From: LARRY JAQUES                           Number: 1887
  To: ERYN BAY                                 Date: 07/11/93  7:57a
Subj: Office 3.0                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EB>  EB> What can I get in trade for Microsoft Office 3.0?

How about a copy of Lotus 123 MPC with Smarthelp?  They're around
the same list price, I believe.  Let me know here or call me.

Larry Jaques    Diversify! Computer Services  (619) 941-8868  24hrs
      Suite 159   1035 E. Vista Way   Vista, CA  92084-4606
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From: JOHN BRODERICK                         Number: 1888
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  5:08p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    I would like a CHEAP Cd-rom. It doesn't have to be fast just work.
Would like one with card but will consider one with out. Must be
external.

    Willing to trade one joystick with card, sim life (with manuals),one
internal 2400baud modem, and some cash.

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 1889
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/12/93  9:03a
Subj: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>BH>   SLMR 2.1a   Think hard now!  Which one is Shinola?

I got that one from a huge collection of taglines I have stolen, made
up, or added to a file on the Up All Night CDROM I just released.   I am
hopelessly addicted to tag lines.  I may not read the message, but I
will read the tag line for sure!

BOB
:-)

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 1890
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/12/93  9:21a
Subj: NIGHTOWL 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: 07/15/93  1:58p                       Private: No 

TH>I've never cut anyone's feed to this echo, but you're pushing me to the
TH>limit.  Stop whining.  This is your last chance, bubba.  EOT.

TH>tim
TH>moderator

Damn you're mean.  Do me a favor Mr. Moderator Tim, keep all this you
want in the CDROM_SALE echo.  (ROTFLMAO)  Have all the fun you can stand
with the bickering, whining, flaming, bitching, tattletelling, name
calling, and other related BS.  I am used to it, I have been doing it
for 8 years. And FYI, I have damned sure pulled feeds, several, and all
for one month. Remember, as moderator, you can even pull the feed from
an IC or IEC, if it is warranted.

(ROTFLMAO) (ROTFLMAO) (ROTFLMAO) Repeat this about 10,000 times and you
will get the picture.

BTW: Tim, have a nice day.
still (ROTFLMAO)
BOB
:-)

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 1891
  To: MIKE PETRO                               Date: 07/12/93  9:23a
Subj: NIGHTOWL 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MP>it has no place on this echo. If you have a legitimate beef with him
MP>take it ti Small Claims Court, not here.

To some people, the echo's are small claims court.  They just get
carried away in their little puddle of self inflicted power, and think
they run the world.

Sorry Moderator, just could not help interjecting this opinion.

BOB
:-)

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1892
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  1:25a
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************************************************************************
**********************  CD-ROM International  ****************************
**************************************************************************

        CD PowerBox v1.0        $19       Q&A on CD-ROM v4.0      $37
        CD WinBox v1.0          $29       Storm I and II (set)    $39
        CD *.Box v1.0 (set)     $39       Super_CD II             $19
        Guinness Disc of Records$24       USA Wars: Desert Storm  $25
        Night Owl's v8.0        $29       USA Wars: Korea         $25
        Night Owl's v9.0        $34       USA Wars: Vietnam       $25
        NOPV8 & NOPV9 (set)     $54       USA Wars: World War II  $25
        Publish-It! v2.0        $24

                           * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
CD-ROM International       * Call our BBS for the latest catalog, or   *
(800) 678-2374 (Orders)    * file request CATALOG from 1:344/79.  The  *
(509) 754-0724 (Voice)     * catalog has been updated with new titles  *
(509) 754-0109 (BBS/Fax)   * and lower prices.                         *
Cash/COD/Credit Cards      * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *



... Don't blame me... I voted for Bush!

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From: RUSSELL NABER                          Number: 1893
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  2:55a
Subj: Questions                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!


I just got hooked into this echo and I have a few questions I hope somebody can
help me with.


1.) I have a Adaptec 1742b SCSI controller, will most CD ROM drives work ok
with this? If so where can I get either a multiple scsi ribbon that has at
least 5 pin connectors on it, or where can I get the external type pin
connector.

2.) Which CD-ROM drive is the best in the terms of price/speed for BBS use.

3.) What if any comments does anybody have on the Pioneer 6 disk changer.

4.) What type of compatibility problems will I experience in the terms of
having both IBM and MAC CD-ROMS online.

5.) Also how are the directory's on CD-ROMS setup. How do I intergrate them
with files.bbs type files for my BBS software.


I hope somebody can answer these questions as I wish to be fully informed
before purchasing anything to setup better file access for my BBS.




Russell

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From: GEOFF HOWARD                           Number: 1894
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/11/93  7:23a
Subj: Cd's wanted                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Vince
Its a long time no see,now a canadian distributor, Please send a Cat- too
Geoff Howard 71 Wilkins St Trenton Ont K8V 3M9

               Geoff
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From: RICK MEENAN                            Number: 1895
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  3:25p
Subj: Looking For a cd-rom                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I've been looking for a CD-ROM containing GIF photos of porno stars.
I'm pretty new at this so don't know what's out there that may have the
material I'm looking for.  Therefore, anyone selling a CD-ROM(s) they
think might be of help drop me a line.  I'd be interested in getting
catalogs from anyone thinking they have what I'm looking for.  Let me
know what's out there guys!

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From: NOEL HUPE                              Number: 1896
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 07/12/93 11:54a
Subj: SHE'S BACK & SHE'S BETTER               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

\\michella,
            i'm interested in purchasing a cd-rom driver and some xxx cd-rom
software.my question is would you be able to supply product that is compatible
to my soundblaster pro deluxe,and os2 2.1,plus cost.ttyl,noel


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From: DANNY BRIGANCE                         Number: 1897
  To: ERICK GROWCOCK                           Date: 07/12/93 11:37p
Subj: Sony CD-Rom for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Erick!

Wednesday July 07 1993, Erick Growcock writes to Chris Kuefler:


 EG>     MicroSoft BookShelf (1991)
 EG>     Languages of the World
 EG>     Mixed-Up mother goose
 EG>     U.S. Atlas
 EG>     National Geographic Mammals

How much would you be interested in selling the Mixed-Up mother goose title?


Danny

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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 1898
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/12/93  8:49p
Subj: Apple Cd-Rom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   Thanks for the information you gave me. I will definitely check this
out.


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1899
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/12/93 12:01a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ> MS> ****************************************************************
BJ> MS> ***
BJ> MS> July 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last up
BJ> MS> 7/08
BJ> MS> ****************************************************************

BJ>Your lists are line-wrapping again, big fella. Makes it tough on us
BJ>dyslexics (::-|

Hmmm,

I wonder why that is.  I have my right margin set to 75, and it never
changes.  In fact, I think you're the only one in this conference who has
informed me of this.  I wonder if others see it wrapping too.  Let me
post another test listing, and see what happens . . .

TO ALL READERS . . . The following is a section of my ad.  Please reply
back as to whether or not it is legible:

 C User's Group Library........31.00    Ocean Digital Imagery.........34.50
 California Collection.........17.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...25.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    Our Solar System..............14.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....29.50
 CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-SIG #12....................28.00
 CD Winbox (New!)..............29.00    PC Gameroom...................28.00

Bob,

Please give me your feedback on this also.

Thanks,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1900
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/12/93 12:01a
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ> MS> (Just kidding Bob - more like 10 bucks)
BJ>Well, it was $10 until my last order - now it's zip. (:<

Sorry, I guess I shouldn't have charged that lobster dinner on it.  8)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1901
  To: MARK SMITKA                              Date: 07/12/93 12:01a
Subj: $$$                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>advertising.  The customer will lose _all_ objectivity, but will also have
MS>gotten a free meal!  Sounds like the American way to me!  :-) BTW, for those
MS>that will accuse me of writing this as a "cheap shot" for a discount, that's
MS>not the case. However, you _can_ send me a catalog to:

Mark,

Catalog's on the way, and I appreciate your supportive comments.  (BTW:
Your "cheap shot" worked)  8)

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1902
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93 12:01a
Subj: CAN U READ THIS?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 ALL READERS:  Please let me know if you can read this OK.  Thanks

 **************************************************************************
 July 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 7/08
 **************************************************************************
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 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 4.2.................22.00
 Bible Library.................31.00    Night Owl 5.0.................23.00
 Bibles & Religion.............14.00    Night Owl 6.2.................24.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 7.0.................25.00
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From: LEN BUSSEY                             Number: 1903
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 07/12/93  3:36a
Subj: RE:adult Cd                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> CB> I am partial to the Storm collection. I have Storm I and Storm II.
> CB> Both are nice CDs.
>  
Where can I find the Storm CD's.  Anybody out there want to sell any?

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From: LEN BUSSEY                             Number: 1904
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/12/93  4:02a
Subj: RE:nightowl 9                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> BT> I thought this matter was laid to rest!........ END OF SUBJECT!

> BT> i seen that mike shannon is selling nightowl 9 for $37.00
> BT> tell me is that extorsion or price fixing?
> BT> he claims the lowest prices available.....MIKE you had better
> BT> drop that $37. price tag to $24.95 if you want to be the lowest
> BT> price guy.
 
I don't know Mike Shannon because I have never done business with him so 
I am not taking up his side in this message.  I am also not saying that 
you may not have a reason to gripe.  But you do seem to want to keep 
arguing about this matter and you are intentionally trying to hurt 
someone's business.  In one message you say "End of Subject"  and in 
the next message you start in on it again.  I would have kept still 
about this but you DID address your message to ALL.

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From: LEN BUSSEY                             Number: 1905
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/13/93  1:27a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I like your attitude towards your customers and business in general.  I 
would appreciate it if you could send me one of your current catalogs. 
I operate a BBS and am mainly interested in adult and shareware cds.
Please send the catalog to:
 
                            Len Bussey
                            5631 Delina Rd
                            Petersburg, TN  37144
 
 
p.s.  Your thread with Bubba made up my mind on who I would like to do 
business with.  For that I thank him also.

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From: KEVIN DEW                              Number: 1906
  To: RICHARD NIXON                            Date: 07/12/93 10:48p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Sound's good, but will it have any *.S3M's *.STM's or *.669's?
I'm in to the "more than 4 channel" music now.. Let me know when it comes out.

Kevin

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1907
  To: MICHAEL COLLIER                          Date: 07/13/93  1:55a
Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>> -=>> Quoting Boris Osadciw to All <=-
BO>>
BO>> BO>> NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
BO>>

BO>>This unit is an External true SCSI unit that offers 450ms access time
BO>>with 150kps transfer rate. It's Novell, OS/2 and MPC compliant and is
BO>>caddless. It's a complete system, which means you get the drive,
BO>>comntroller, shielded cable, drivers and manual as well as the full
BO>>warrenty and head phones.
BO>>
BO>>Need further assistance, please feel free to call us at 216-225-3263
BO>>and we'll be more than happy to help you.

>>       Hi Boris, How much extra for a notebook interface for the
>>       NEC 36? Also, do you carry the Microsolutions Backpack
>>     drives?

We carry the Trantor Parallel host adaptors, that will allow you to
attach the above drive or any SCSI device to a notebook via the
parallel port. There are three versions to select from, one being the
MiniSCSI with and average transfer rate of 100kps, then there's the
MiniSCSI PLUS, with and average transfer rate of 260kps and then
there's the MiniSCSI EPP, which offers up to 1 MB per sec transfer rate.

As you can see you do have a good selection to chose from. So, what it
comes down to is " What are your personal needs ? ".

If you'd like to discuss this matter further, please feel free to give us
a call at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1908
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/13/93  1:55a
Subj: BRAND NEW CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

(((((((((((((((( B R A N D  N E W  S O U N D W A R E ))))))))))))))))
   The LARGEST Collection of Sound Files anywhere, now on CD !!
   Over 10,000 - CMF, CMS, MOD, ROL, SND, VOC, and WAV FILES.
   Ready to use, many of which are custome files. All files are
   in PKZIP format and most of them are current - 600 + megs
   This CD is BBS READY, with discriptions in every directory.
   BONUS - 200+ High Res, G-rated gif files have been added
                        Price - $29.00
ORDER LINE ONLY - 800-243-0517 TECH LINE 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
" If you have a Sound Card, you'll want this CD and so will your users ! "


Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: TED KIDD                               Number: 1909
  To: RON THOMPSON                             Date: 07/07/93  7:56p
Subj: Apple Cd-Rom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RT> Can anyone out there tell me of the good/bad points of getting an 
RT> Apple Cd-Rom drive. My daughter will be getting a Macintosh LC3 in a 
RT> few months, and they recommended it. Is anything else better AND 
RT> compatible? Sorry for the ignorance on this, but I am new to CD-Rom 
RT> technology. Any and all help will be much appreciated.

The Apple CD-Rom drive is probably THE BEST drive I have personally seen.
A student here at Springbrook Middle School in Adrian, MI dropped one while
they were transporting it to a different classroom and it worked like a
charm... even though it was dropped from 4-5 feet above the ground!!!
As for reliablity... it's a sony inside that case :)  I run 3 Apple drives
on this BBS and I like them more than the NECin the chain... but, the NEC
is a good drive too (not putting them down... but, the Apple drive hasn't
gave me ANY problems...the NEC sometimes doesn't read the disc -- but this
has only happened twice...)  So, all-in-all, Apple CD-Rom drives are
excellent!!!  And, just a suggestion, get the Apple 300 -- it is faster and
it is the multi-session version.  The 150's are good also... but the 300 is
a FAR better drive just because of the multi-session capability and it is
approx. double the speed.
Gee, I hope you aren't more confused :)
Later

Ted



... IBM -- Inferior But Marketable
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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 1910
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 07/11/93  9:58p
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

I'm interested in this drive but I'm leary of a 150ms drive and software
for only $200 ???

J.P.
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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 1911
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 07/11/93 10:13p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 !!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ray,
    I am very interested in Night Owls Ver. 9.0  The best price I have
gotten is  $29 (plus $4 for COD) Total of $33  ... If you can match or
beat this please send one to :

                                J.P. Ladner, Jr.
                                P.O. Box 236
                                Scottsville, VA 24590

or you can reach me via my BBS at 804-286-4685


J.P.
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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 1912
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/11/93 10:07p
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you have any more of the Night Owl Disks for $29 ?  IF so I'd like to
buy one..maybe even two...

J.P.
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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 1913
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 07/11/93 10:12p
Subj: PC CDs - Magazine Subscri               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I want Night Owl's 9.0 !!!  Will you do COD ??
If so will you match a ligitamate competitor's price of $29 ???  If
so  please  ssend one to:
                               J.P. Ladner
                               P.O. Box 236
                               Scottsville, VA 24590

Please let me know when shipped including if you'll take a check (and if
so who to make it out to) I will also pay COD charges..

Thanks!
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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 1914
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/13/93  9:12a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Jul 12 00:01>, Mike Shannon of 1:3407/101 writes:

 MS>  C User's Group Library........31.00    Ocean Digital 
 MS> Imagery.........34.50
 MS>  California Collection.........17.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac 
 MS> S/W)...25.00
 MS>  Career Opportunities..........29.00    Our Solar 
 MS> System..............14.00
 MS>  Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-Medic (PC 
 MS> Diagnostics).....29.50
 MS>  CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-SIG 
 MS> #12....................28.00
 MS>  CD Winbox (New!)..............29.00    PC 
 MS> Gameroom...................28.00

Mike,
Looked good to me until I attempted to "Quote" the sample and as you can see...
Cutting the spaces down between list by about 4 should do it.

Michael Sells

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From: JEFF NEWMAN                            Number: 1915
  To: VIKKI CLAYTON                            Date: 07/10/93  4:33p
Subj: Re: CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 VC> Got the CD you sent me - Hot Pics.
 VC> It sure satisfied my request for kink!
 VC> Although I can't get my BBS to recognize it yet, and it
 VC> locks up every time I run start.bat, I do believe that
 VC> could be me - computerarilly disadvantaged.
 VC> I want to thank you for your business-like handling of a bad situation.

 Vikki, I have also acquired a disk and a Sony CDU-31A-02 that does not
 read it. Could you please let me know the make/model of your CD Drive?
 thanks...

-Jeff NOPCCCC

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From: BENJAMIN KEEN                          Number: 1916
  To: RON THOMPSON                             Date: 07/12/93 10:35p
Subj: APPLE CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 07-07-93, Terry Woodwardne out there tell me of the good/bad points of
getting an
RT>Apple Cd-Rom drive. My daughter will be getting a Macintosh LC3 in a 
few
RT>months, and they recommended it. Is anything else better AND 
compatible?
RT>Sorry for the ignorance on this, but I am new to CD-Rom technology.

Ron,
If it's the integrated CdRom that comes in the LCIII, it's a good deal.
I recently bought a Centris 610 and spang for the internal cdrom model,
even though I had a Nec84. Be sure to get the 300Kps models. Stay away
from the older Apple drives and the new cute, black one.

>------------------------------------
Actually, the LCIII cannot take an _internal_ cd rom. The case has room 
for a SuperDrive (3.5" floppy) and a 3.5" Half height hard disk.
The Apple one you want is the  AppleCD 300. It is state of the art 
(double-speed and Multisession photoCD compatible) and costs $599 form the 
Apple catalog w/ 9 CDs. Avoid the AppleCD 150i and Apple's consumer 
'PowerCD' (the cute black one - its slow) Go to the dealer and twist their 
arm a little and you should get the AppleCD 300 for less than the $599 
list.


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From: DAN HATTERICK                          Number: 1917
  To: MICHAEL GIUNTOLI                         Date: 07/12/93  7:20p
Subj: CD ROM SPEED VS. BBS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG>        I was looking into getting the 6 disc pioneer mini
MG>changer
MG> the access time on it is 600ms and the transfer rate is 153kb
MG>per
MG>second. I wanna use it on a bbs. Can anyone that either has this
MG>drive or know anything about the speed tell me if its fast
MG>enough so theres practically 0 wait state or close to it. What
MG>would be recommended. I know about the toshiba 200ms access time
MG>and all which is over $400.00. But its just going to be online
MG>for transfers so i need to know.. Help.. Enough said already..
MG>Lemme know
MG>                        HELP.................................

MG>                        Michael
Micheal speed is not important on a BBS.It would only help on installing them
or maintenace or such.Other than that Im running a Network and the Network is
27k per second or something.I could be in Windows and the CDDrives are way
faster than any 14400 modem can download.I would say even faster than any
16.8,19.2,or whatever these phone lines will allow.If your BBS Software looks
for the files on the CDS when people do a file search that would be slow no
matter what player you buy.If you buy one of those 6 disk changers I wouldnt
see how anyone would wait for the search.The 6 CD Player is good if your
hurting on IRQ's.But I run multinode and I dont see how 2 people could download
off of 2 seperate CDS at the same time.Unless your BBS software copies the
files to the hard drive before they download which mine does.But there still
would be interupptions when the discs change.So all in all,access speed can be
considered if your judging quality or running hefty games or Multimedia. -Dan

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 1918
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/12/93  8:37p
Subj: Toshiba CDROM Drives                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hiya, Michael!
On Jul 11, Michael Konor spake thusly to All:


 MK> 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

 MK> Features: Warranty, DIP switches for ID, Parity, and 
 MK> Arbitration, 50 pin   SCSI, 350ms/156k rates, external 
 MK> headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,  64k buffer.  
 MK> Still have several remaining.

 MK> 205-837-5053 

NICE talking to you, michael - looking forward to getting that drive. :)

\/\/ild_________
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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 1919
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/12/93  8:42p
Subj: cd catolog                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hiya, Mike!

i'd be interested in receiving your cd rom catalog...

4282 E. Dayton, #C
Fresno, CA 93726-6137

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1920
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/13/93 11:48a
Subj: PORKER TOO                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Yep...that's a good price, Mike. Pleasure doin' business wid cha'. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1921
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/13/93 11:49a
Subj: DICT & LANG                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Great! It'll be next week before I can look at them. Ciao! 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1922
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/13/93 12:33p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DR> Welcome to my twit filter, sport.                                 
                                                                       
  
This is priceless! As soon as I can get off MegaMail and on to SLMR, I 
gonna use it's filter! "Twit" -- priceless! 
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1923
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 07/13/93  9:17a
Subj: sellin' some roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> I'm interested in the following (if you still have them, I tend to run
>> behind in reading my mail packets):

>> EB> CICA Windows (Dec)           $10.00
>> EB> US History                   $15.00
>> EB> Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00
>> EB> Time Tables of History S+I   $15.00
>> EB> Family Doctor                $25.00
>> EB> Greatest Books 150           $20.00
>> EB> NASA Voyager Image data      $10.00 /ea.
>> EB> Garbo CD (MSDos/Mac)         $15.00

    Sorry, all sold.

Eric


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From: MAHMUT KURSUN                          Number: 1924
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  1:00p
Subj: new Walnut Creek                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The new Walnut Creek CDROM's are out:
Datentr„ger in Laufwerk E ist HOBBES_0693  9669 Datei(en)  641325442 Byte
Datentr„ger in Laufwerk E ist AMINET_0693 11380 Datei(en)  637850234 Byte
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^ Thats the Name of the CDROM
Hobbes is for OS/2 and Aminet is Amiga.   Each 49.00 DM (German Marks)
both ISO9660 incl. BBS descriptions
visa accepted, +s/h 3 DM surface Europe, 17 DM Airmail world
 Kursun CDROM Versand        tel: ++49-89-6378421
 Karl-Marx-Ring 148          fax: ++49-89-6378429
 81737 Munich/GERMANY        100116.3315@compuserve.com

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From: VINCENT TESTA                          Number: 1925
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 07/13/93 10:57a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi drivers needed              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi'ya Todd ...

Monday July 12 1993, at 03:02, Todd Crawford Mentioned to All:

 TC>     I am in desperite need of some help...  I just got one of the new
 TC> Mitsumi's for use on my BBS, and the driver that came with it REFUSES
 TC> to cooperate with QEMM.

Mine works fine ;

DEVICE=C:\dos\MTMCDE.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:360 /A:0 /M:20 /T:5 /I:10

I found that if I don't load it high it works.


Ciao, Vincent
...The truth doesn't hurt unless it ought to.

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From: ERIC JORGENSEN                         Number: 1926
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 07/11/93  9:55p
Subj: Cheap CD-ROM Drives                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

i would like to buy a cd-rom drive and controller and stuff... what's the
cheapest price i can get to gte everything i need to run a cd-rom drive?



THANKS!


... OFFLINE 1.37 * I only counted 100 dalmatians...!!!
...............................


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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 1927
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/13/93  7:13a
Subj: Re: nightowl 9                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> And most of his prices on all CDs except Nightowl 9 are higher than most
> of us..so save now and pay higher later <g>.
First of all, you guys are home based businesses while we are full commercial,
we pay rent, tax ect. We also stock everything we sell, I know for sure that,
several of you doing this business as a second income. Can you host any of your
customer in place of your business?  So, do you think it is fair to compare you
with full commercial businesses?. Plus, we do have good prices with good
service. Regards
 
GroupWare 

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From: JEFF OLESEN                            Number: 1928
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/07/93 10:37a
Subj: Nasa roms                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Eric,

EB>    NASA Roms sent Tuesday.  Insured and valued at $50.00.  Don't have

I noticed your message to someone else. Do you have any more of the NASA ROMS
available? Can you tell me where I can order new ones from? I have been looking
for them (not very hard though) for some time now.

Thanks,
 Jeff O.
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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 1929
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/12/93 11:14p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>This is a public warning to anyone planning on trading/buying discs from Ter
MB>Woodward.  I shipped a disc to Terry, on the condition he would cross ship a
MB>disc in return, by priority mail.  He failed to do so. After receiving a

You obviously wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the butt. I told
you EXACTLY what happened. I returned from trying to take care of my
mother after her stroke to help Rich Verra, a quadrapeligic set up his
computer. I had less than 12 hours of sleep in three days. I awoke
Monday morning to a nasty note from you. I sent the disk back to you on
My account, not my bosses.

Is your infantile prattling going to continue much longer? Why not
accept that fact that your temper tantrums don't go over well with
grownups.

NOW it's the end of the thread. But I'll just bet you can't let it go...


 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Farfrompoopin! The German word for constipation.


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From: CRAIG MOSER                            Number: 1930
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  3:32p
Subj: MAC CD-ROM                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Quantum Leap Technologies in Miami Florida is now selling the GIGA-ROM
Macintosh shareware CD-ROM v4.0. This is simply the BEST and most up-to-date
HFS Mac disc available. Contains tons of System 7 utilities & programs,
extensions, cdevs, truetype fonts, sounds, telecommunications files,
educational, business, and so much more.

Version 4.0 works great with TeleFinder, FirstClass, Hermes, Second Sight,
MUBBS, NovaLink bulletin board systems. The disc is neatly organized and simple
to place online as a large unerasible volume.

ATTN DOS SYSOPS - QLTech is also offering the FIRST ISO-9660 MAC SHAREWARE
CD-ROM for your DOS based BBS. The Giga-ROM v3.0 ISO can be used on systems
such as TBBS and others.

Call Quantum Leap TOLL FREE - (800) 762-2877 for more details & special sysop
pricing. Specify which disc format you are interested in & tell them you heard
about it here on Fidonet!


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From: JOE STEVENS                            Number: 1931
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/13/93  5:07p
Subj: CD ROM...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in Purchasing a CD ROM drive.  I have looked at several
models... the one whick is the least expensive and still offers reasonable
features is a mitsumi brand.  Does anyone out there have one and do you know if
it is any good?  Also... I have been told it only has an 8 bit interface
card... not a 16 bit.  What is the advantage to a 16 bit interface?
Thanks...

Joe Stevens.

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1932
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/13/93  5:05p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MB> This is a public warning to anyone planning on trading/buying
 MB> Terry Woodward.  I shipped a disc to Terry, on the condition he would
 DR> Take it to netmail or quit your whining.  Terry is a VERY
 DR> respected man in this echo, and it'll take a lot more than the
 DR> likes of you to change that. Terry is honest enough that I send

I posted a public statement about Terry Woodward when he ripped me off. I
believe it has been stated by the moderator that one public warning is allowed
when someone like Terry Woodward defrauds another participant of this echo.  I
simply posted my warning about being ripped off by Terry Woodward, and ended
the thread.  Since you are not the moderator, and I was participating in this
echo according to the rules that state I may warn others not to get ripped off
by Terry Woodward, your post means nothing to me or the thread about Terry
Woodward ripping me off.

 DR> discs to him BEFORE being paid.  Aren't you the one who crys about
 DR> every deal in the CFORSALE, CLASSIFIEDS or FORSALE echos?  I think
 DR> you are...

No, I don't frequent those echoes.  Get your facts straight before slinging
asinine falsehoods.  I do know that I responded to your ads on several
occasions, and you were not answering your phone either time, nor did you
return my calls.  Nice way to do business.
 DR> Welcome to my twit filter, sport.

It really is a sad sate of affairs when supposed "men" sling false statements,
then hide behind twit filters to avoid reading the truth. Join your lying buddy
and enjoy yourselves.
By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me off?

 * MKRead v1.01 * I'm not nearly as think as you confused I am.


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From: JIM REED                               Number: 1933
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/13/93  4:59p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>I am not familiar with this CD. Can you give a brief intro?
MS>Tahnks,

Hi Michael;
        I got impatient and went out and bought T7G ($59). so any trade
        is off.  Sorry.  AF2 is a collection of adult XXX GL movies.
                                /JIM/

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1934
  To: DON KULHA                                Date: 07/13/93 12:48a
Subj: Starvector                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DK>called and ordered a couple CD's from him. Seemed like the least I could do.
DK>Have a nice day.

Don,

Hope you got them OK.  Thanks a lot for the order, and don't be a
stranger!

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1935
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/13/93 12:48a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>This is a public warning to anyone planning on trading/buying discs from
Terr
MB>Woodward.  I shipped a disc to Terry, on the condition he would cross ship a
MB>disc in return, by priority mail.  He failed to do so. After receiving a

Michael,

In defense of Terry, I have dealt with him several times, both from the
sending AND receiving end, and I've found him to be very polite and
honest in his dealings with me.  I honestly don't think Terry was out to
cheat you Michael, it's just that sometimes there ARE extenuating
circumstances that put a person's commitments on hold.  He told me
about his ill mother also, so he is telling the truth.

Oh yeah, please don't drag me into this - I have enough trouble of my
own.  Just adding my honest opinion about a person I feel has treated me
very professionally.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1936
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 07/13/93 12:48a
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MK> MS> Well it's about time you started ordering from us!  10% off anything
MK> MS> in the house on your next order - sez me!

MK>I would be honored.  However, I do not have a catalog of your products.
MK>How may I obtain one?

Michael,

If you want mine and about 10 other catalogs, you can leave your name and
address here.  If you want mine only, you can give me a call at
509-457-2892, or download STARCAT.ZIP from our BBS at 509-457-0206.  8)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1937
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/13/93 12:48a
Subj: BETTER THAN STREET ATLAS?               Refer: NONE
Read: 07/15/93  2:23p                       Private: No 

TH>-> TITLE:  Precision Mapping
TH>-> SPECIAL FEATURES:  Full CAD features with draw, edit, and control ove

TH>Will it export the maps to .DWG or .DXF?

YES

TH>And aside from it being DOS based, what other fundamental differences
TH>are there between this disc and Street Atlas USA?

I think the main differences are the CAD features, and the ability to
create and print your own customized maps of virtually any type or
scale.  That, plus the .PCX clip feature.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1938
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 07/13/93 12:48a
Subj: waiting for the boss...                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LF>be useful.  I've also got the CDROM bug myself, and am considering
LF>adding a drive to my pc, and will probably be ordering a few disks for
LF>myself soon. I appreciate all your help on the phone, and will be in
LF>touch soon with my order(s).

Great, looking forward to hearing from you!  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1939
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/13/93 12:48a
Subj: CHESTNUT CD'S...$10! 1/2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
                                pg. 1 of 2

   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

TITLES INCLUDE:

1. THE COMPLETE BOOKSHOP - An entire bookshop on CD! Includes classics,
   poetry, humor, cookbooks, American history and founding documents, novels,
   short stories, home improvement guides, computer tutors, and more!

2. WINDOWARE - An excellent disc packed with tons of useful programs for
   Windows 3.0 and 3.1, including typefonts, font installers, games, home
   and business applications, education, wallpaper, utilities, etc.

3. SOUND SENSATIONS! - Adds multimedia excitement to your system!  Includes
   tons of sound effects, music files, jukeboxes, voices, sound clips,
   music voices, etc. in a variety of file formats.

4. TECHNOTOOLS - A programmer's dream disc! Routines, utilities, debuggers,
   troubleshooters, and other programming tools for C/C++, dBase, Clipper,
   Basic, Assembler, AI, Unix, OS/2, Pascal, Forth, and more!

5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,
   thesauruses, word-processors, style/syntax/spell checkers, glossaries,
   crossword solvers, foreign language tutors . . . on and on!

6. DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLES - Exciting arcade action games: Space wars,
   shoot-em-ups, auto racing, sports, casino gambling, horse and auto
   racing, and more. The fast action will entertain you for years!

7. TOO MANY TYPEFONTS! - Countless typefonts in all formats:  TrueType,
   ATM, Adobe Type 1, WFN, First Publisher, Ghostscript, HPL, etc. Also
   includes typeface modifiers, font managers, downloaders, & utilities.

 ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
 any Chestnut purchase!

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA þ MC þ AMEX þ DISCOVER þ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs þ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1940
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/13/93 12:48a
Subj: CHESTNUT CD'S...$10! 2/2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
                                pg. 2 of 2

   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

TITLES INCLUDE:

8.  CLIPART GOLIATH - Over 10,000 image files in PCX and TIF formats, plus
    some in color-TIF/PCX, MAC, GIF, etc. Files can be imported to virtually
    every desktop publishing program! Subjects include: Americana, Animals,
    Business, Computing, Entertainment, Food, Holiday, Music, People,
    Religion, Science & Medicine, Signs, Sports, Cartoons, & many more.

9.  HAM RADIO 3.0 - Excellent collection of HAM and SWL programs and data!
    Includes packet radio, satellite communications, frequency lists,
    equipment service, design, mods, logging, news, FAX, FCC, & others.

10. COLOSSAL COOKBOOK - Over 4000 recipes, far more than the "Joy of
    Cooking".  Includes excellent recipe cross-reference and search!
    Includes health/nutrition guides, ethnic and regional recipes, meal
    planning, low-cholesterol diets, cooking instructions, & more!

11. BIBLES & RELIGION - All popular New & Old Testament versions, Book of
    Mormon, Talmud portions, lexicons & concordances, study guides,
    organization membership & fund-raising programs, etc.

12. SHAREWARE OVERLOAD - Over 6100 programs (550mb compressed) for all
    applications, with an emphasis on games and Windows programs.  Subjects
    include business, clipart, communications, BBS, database, education,
    finance, games, graphics, religion, sound, utilities, Windows, & more!

13. OUR SOLAR SYSTEM - Exciting NASA and observatory photos of the planets,
    moons, comets, earth, and celestial phenomena!  Includes star locators,
    planetarium programs, astronomical data, voyage simulators, + tons more.

 ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
 any Chestnut purchase!

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE þ PO BOX 8160 þ YAKIMA WA 98908 þ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA þ MC þ AMEX þ DISCOVER þ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs þ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: KEVIN OYAMA                            Number: 1941
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 07/13/93  6:41a
Subj: Re: NixPix1                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> I have an extra copy.  $80 (includes shipping).
 
 
I have netmailed back twice with no reply to your origin at Airtight
Garage..... Received your netmail fine.  Net me your address for money-order.
KKO 

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From: RUSS BROCKLEHURST                      Number: 1942
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/13/93 12:50p
Subj: CD LOOKING CDN DIST ADULT               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HI I HAVE LOOKING FOR THE CANADAIN DISTRIBUTER OF CD OF ADULT NATURE IF YOU IT
PLEASE SEND A CATALOG TO
P.O. BOX 53093
MARLBOROUGH  P.O.
CALGARY, AB.
T2A 7P1

I LOOK FORWARD TO RESPONSE AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.
THANX RUSS BROCKLEHURST


... "Mr. Worf, fire phasers at VINCE" ... Zzzzzap!
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From: RUSS BROCKLEHURST                      Number: 1943
  To: SHAWN DOWNEY                             Date: 07/13/93 12:50p
Subj: CD WHAT OTHER TITLES                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I AM INTERESTED ABOUT BUSTY BABES BUT ALSO OTHER TITLES WILL LOG ON TO YOUR BBS
PLEASE LET KNOW ABOUT THEM ... ONE WAY OR OTHER
THANX RUSS


... MONEY TALKS ...   but all mine ever says is GOODBYE!
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From: RUSS BROCKLEHURST                      Number: 1944
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/13/93 12:50p
Subj: Re: CLUB EXPOSE'                        Refer: NONE
Read: 07/15/93  2:25p                       Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Tim Helton to All <=-

 TH> DISTRIBUTORS WANTED
 TH> -------------------

 TH> We're currently seeking distributors for CLUB EXPOSE' - our new
 TH> interactive adult CD ROM title.

 TH> Exclusive distribution rights will be granted for the following
 TH> regions:  U.S.A., Europe, Asia, Central/South America, Africa,
 TH> Canada, and Australia.  Distributors will be selected based on
 TH> their integrity and ability to move product.

 TH> For more information, call.

 TH> Tim Helton

 TH> Data Express, Inc.          Voice: 404-621-9210
 TH> 6799 Windfaire Dr.          FAX  : 404-621-9122
 TH> Norcross, GA 30093          FIDO :    1:133/515                      

 TH>  ! Origin: The Liability BBS 404-491-1405 (1:133/515)


I AM ITERESTED IN CANADA BUT I WOULD NEED DETAILS OF CONTENT AND TERMS 
PLEASE REPLY AS SO AS POSSIBLE 

SINCERELY 
RUSS BROCKLEHURST
MANAGER BROXX SERVICES



... A feature is a bug with seniority.
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From: KEVIN OYAMA                            Number: 1945
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 07/13/93  8:28p
Subj: Re: NixPix1                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
> I have an extra copy.  $80 (includes shipping).
 
Too late; never heard back from you - received multiple other offers since your
first mail....
KKO

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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 1946
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/14/93  4:51a
Subj: CD-WORLD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                             CD-WORLD
 CD-WORLD                    Price list       For on-line orders call
 2650 Wedgefield RD          July  1993       The BBS at 803-481-7149
 Sumter SC 29154                              Voice 803-481-2276
                                              FIDO 1:3647/2

    Lower prices on nearly every title!!!! Most titles have a files
    list available from My BBS. Look for a * Before the name. Also
    anyone on FIDO net can Freq these files. Freq CDfiles.lst for
    file names and descriptions. Files list are in File area 9 and you
    can log on the BBS as First name Guest, no last name, Pw Guest.
    Look for more files list soon. By August I hope to have one avail-
    ble for all BBS ready CD's.

    For all you Wildcat and PcBoard sysops out there who use Romdoor,
    I have premade databases for most cd's, Look for a ! by the title.
    If you are running a Wilcat or PcBoard BBS and are not using
    Romdoor you should be. This premade feature is a real time saver.
    You can freq or download Romd202.zip for this great program.
    Romdoor Premades are in file area 8 and you can log on as First
    Name Guest, no last name, Pw Guest. I plan to add premades for
    all BBS ready cd's I have. My take a month or two to get em all!
    You can Freq these files also. Freq CDfiles.lst for file names.

    Caddies are now avialable at CD-WORLD. I needed a caddy about
    a week ago and looked at some of the local prices... Outrageous!!!
    Caddies $4.00

    As always, Thank you for choosing CD-WORLD to serve your CD-ROM
    needs. I will always do my best to serve you!!!
    ==================================================================
    Nightowl 9 and Pier 2 are now in stock!!!!

   !Nightowl 9                                          $34.00
    Latest in the Nightowl series. As always this cd promises to be
    one of the Hottest on the Market. BBS Ready!!!

   !Pier 2                                              $39.00
    This CD has had nothing but rave reviews. 50 directories, 4,739
    files, most to all dated 1993. Over 660 meg. BBS Ready!!!!
    ==================================================================
                             NEW TITLES

   *CD WinBox                                           $28.00
    The CD Winbox is a 600+ meg CD-ROM packed full of Thousands of the
    latest Windows Shareware files!! Promises to be one of the Best
    Windows Shareware CD's out. BBS Ready!!

   *PCX PotPourri, Encyclopedia of Clipart              $28.00
    11,000 Files, 51 Directories, 500 meg, New color clips, 65 Adult
    clips. Keyword Search. BBS Ready!!

  *!Sci Fi Fantasy                                      $29.00
    All right all you Trekkies and Sci Fi Sysops. This is what you
    have been waiting for!! Star Trek, Star Wars, Fantasy, and D&D.
    1,200 VGA Pics. Over 100 sound files. BBS Ready!!!!!!!!
    There was a problem with the files.bbs list on this CD-ROM. One of
    my customers took the time to fix this and upload it to my BBS.
    Thanks John Murry, It is avaiable in file area nine.

  *!Shareware Studio Volume II                          $25.00
    Over 5,000 of the best shareware programs available! User friendly
    interface, 640 meg. A great followup to the very popular Shareware
    Studio Volume I. BBS Ready!!

  *!Software Vault Collection II                        $25.00
    635 Meg. Over 1,200 files. Librarian let's you search/creates
    files for Sysops. Excellent Disk. The librarian sytem on this cd
    is an excellent choice for any Sysop. The only reason I did not
    Higly Recommend Collection I is most of you want the latest file
    dates. This one has mostly 93 files. I highly recommend this CD.
    Check it out!!! BBS Ready!!!!!!!!!

    Swim Wear 93                                        $29.00
    1,500 pics of Beautiful Women. V.G.A. Gifs 640x480 to 1024x768. If
    you have been seeking a PG13 cd of Gorgeous Ladies for your BBS
    then this is the one. BBS Ready!!!!!
    ==================================================================

                          New Adult Titles

    Digital Dreams                                      $29.00
    This CD is perfect for anyone desiring a Great "R" rated adult cd.
    All Gifs are simply nude models posing for your pleasure. No XXX
    pics included. Original Scans, 660 meg, Super VGA, BBS Ready!!

    Dirty Talk                                          $45.00
    A 35 minute full motion video of four gorgeous and seductive
    women! This is a full-motion color video (Not Loopscans) Watch as
    sexy Stephanie takes a seductive lotion bath. Experience the
    arresting side of Kinky Kimberly, More. Minimum System
    requirements are, 386-25, Dos 5.0 or higher, 2 meg of ram, SVGA,
    Mouse and a 500ms or faster CD drive.

    Girls of Vivid                                      $55.00
    Over 500 hand picked slides of VIVID Beauties in True Color,
    Guaranteed no two screens the same!!!!!

   *Hot Pix Volume 5                                    $40.00
    Great addition to the Hot Pix series. Directory 1 has general
    shareware files, Mainly pic viewers. The rest of the cd continues
    the Hot Pix tradition of Excellent adult entertainment, Not for
    the weak at heart, BBS Ready!!

    NightWatch "Interactive Adult Movie"                $45.00
    That's right! This is the first interactive full length adult
    movie!! You make the rounds with a Beautiful late night security
    guard as you check out the action in her complex!! This CD
    reguires Microsoft Windows to run!!
    ==================================================================


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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 1947
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/14/93  4:52a
Subj: CD-WORLD 2                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                             CD-WORLD
 CD-WORLD                    Price list       For on-line orders call
 2650 Wedgefield RD          July  1993       The BBS at 803-481-7149
 Sumter SC 29154                              Voice 803-481-2276
                                              FIDO 1:3647/2


                         CD-WORLD Specials!!

    CD PowerBox and CD WinBox                           $40.00

    Simtel 20 Apr 93 and CICA Windows Apr 93            $35.00

    Shareware Studio Volume I and II                    $35.00

    Software Vault Collection I and II                  $35.00

    My Private Collection I and II                      $75.00

    Storm II and III                                    $65.00
    ==================================================================

                              Shareware
    Bibles and Religion                                 $22.00
    All popular new and old Testament versions, Book of Mormon, Talmud
    portions, lexicons and concordances, study guides, organization
    membership & fundraising programs and commentaries. Covers Judaism
    and Christianity. BBS Ready however it contains both zipped
    formats and unzipped "Ready to use files"

    Business Master 2nd Edition                         $25.00
    Over 1,400 of the highest quality Business related shareware
    available. Most of the programs can be run directly from the
    CD-Rom for instant review. This CD is not intended for BBS use.

  *!CD Powerbox                                         $20.00
    Over 621 meg, 6800 Shareware files. Easy interface for non BBS use
    plus has Files.bbs for all you Sysops out there. Download WinPower
    from File area 9 for windows interface. BBS Ready!!!

   *CICA Windows Apr 93                                 $19.00
    This CD Rom contains the entire CICA Windows collection from
    Indiana University, Hundreds of Megabytes of Microsoft Windows
    programs including utilities, screen savers, backup and restore
    programs, games, demos for commercial programs, icons and
    bitmaps, source code listings and programming tools. BBS Ready!

    Clipart Goliath                                     $22.00
    Thousands of image files in PCX and TIF formats, some in color
    TIF/PCX, MAC, and GIF. Files can be imported into virtually every
    desktop publishing program. Many subjects, over 11,000 images. Not
    BBS Ready.

    Colossal Cookbook                                   $22.00
    Over 4,000 recipes, far more than "The Joy of Cooking"  Excellent
    cross reference and search. Includes health and nutrition guides,
    ethnic and regional recipes, meal planning, diabetic and low
    cholesterol diets and more. Not BBS Ready.

    Complete Bookshop                                   $22.00
    An entire book shop on CD-ROM! Includes classics, poetry, humor,
    cookbooks, American history and founding documents, novels, short
    stories, home improvement guides, computer instruction guides, and
    lots more!! Not BBS Ready.

    Deathstar Arcade Battles                            $22.00
    Exciting Arcade action games. Space wars, Shoot-em ups, auto
    racing, sports, casino gambling, horse/auto racing and more. The
    fast action will entertain you for years!! Not BBS Ready.

    Dictionaries and Languages                          $22.00
    A giant compliation of dictionaries, thesauruses, word processors,
    style- syntax- spelling checkers, glossaries, crossword and
    cryptogram solvers. The top shareware word processors, lessons in
    French, German, Italian, Hebrew, Russian, Czech, Greek, Japanese,
    Spanish, Cantonese and more!

    Education Master                                    $25.00
    Over 1,000 educational programs. Preschool to College level! Home
    schooling and classroom instruction. Files come in both zipped and
    unzipped "Ready to run" formats. Not intended for BBS use.

    Encyclopedia of Sound                               $22.00
    Produced by the Music Factory, this disk contains 250 sound files
    including sound effects, Voices, music clips, and full length
    original music scores which may be used royalty free for a wide
    variety of applications. The files are supplied in Windows' WAV
    format and are Digitally recorded!

   *Games 93                                            $29.00
    6,000 files. 500 meg of the Best in shareware games!! Tetris
    clones, Lotto, Casino, Sports, V.G.A. Arcade, Flight simulators
    and best of all, BBS Ready!!!!!!!!!!!

    GameMaster                                          $25.00
    Over 500 games. Many play directly off the CD-Rom. Sports,
    adventure, cards, arcade, etc. CGA, EGA, VGA. Not intended for BBS
    use.

    Ham Radio 3.0                                       $22.00
    Excellent collection of HAM and SWL programs and data. Includes
    packet radio, satellite communications, frequency lists, equipment
    service, design, mods, logging, news, SSTV, FAX, FCC Regulations,
    exams, plus much more! Not BBS Ready.


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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 1948
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/14/93  4:52a
Subj: CD-WORLD 3                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                             CD-WORLD
 CD-WORLD                    Price list       For on-line orders call
 2650 Wedgefield RD          July  1993       The BBS at 803-481-7149
 Sumter SC 29154                              Voice 803-481-2276
                                              FIDO 1:3647/2

    House of Games                                      $29.00
    EGA, VGA, and SVGA Games. Play the Best of Shareware games off The
    CD. Not BBS Ready!!

   *MegaRom-2                                           $19.00
    650 megs-over 7000 files. Contains sound files, 256 color gifs,
    utilites, Programming, Bibles, True type Fonts, Windows Pro-
    grams, Electronic magazines, Communications, BBS Programs Plus
    much more. BBS Ready!  Quanities limited!!

   *MegaWinOS/2                                         $19.00
    600 plus megs. 4861 files. Filled with windows and OS/2 shareware
    and public domain. Files include sound, utilities, programming,
    plus much more! BBS ready!

  *!Monster Disc Best of 1992                           $39.00
    2 Disk set that has recieved Rave reviews, 1300 meg, Includes
    manual with complete descriptions Jan 1992/ Feb 1993. BBS Ready!

   *Nightowl Ver 8                                      $29.00
    Latest in the Nightowl series. BBS Ready!!!

    Our Solar System                                    $22.00
    Exciting NASA and Observatory photos of the planets, moons,
    comets, earth, and celestial phenomena! Includes star locators,
    planetarium programs, astronomical data, voyage simulators, plus
    much more! Not BBS Ready.

    P.C. Sig Games                                      $25.00
    Games from many catagories. Over 60 for Windows, Fantastic
    interface! BBS Ready!

    P.C. Sig Version 12                                 $29.00
    Latest in a well done shareware series, very nice interface!
    BBS Ready!

  *!Phoenix Version 3                                   $15.00
    No Installation, on line help for every function. BBS Ready!!
    While Quanities last. Limited

   *SDN1 Plus                                           $19.00
    Software Dist Network, Made primarily for BBS operators. Plus
    version includes Deskview Net, Windows Net, and other FIDO
    distribution networks. BBS Ready!!

   !Shareware 93                                        $29.00
    5,000 files, 620 meg. This cd contains mostly 1993 dated files.
    BBS Ready!!!!

    Shareware Extravaganza                              $45.00
    4 Disk set. Excellent collection of Shareware Programs Dated from
    1988 thru 1992. A must for you Shareware collectors!!

    Shareware Overload                                  $22.00
    Over 6100 files, 550 meg. Covers many applications with an
    emphasis on Games and Windows. Other subjects include, Business,
    Clipart, Communications, BBS, Database, Education, Finance, Games,
    Graphics, Religion, Sound and more!!

  *!Shareware Studio Vol 1 1992                         $15.00
    Reworked. Includes new front end and you can now access the Apogee
    games directory. This has always been an excellent Disk and now it
    is just that much better.Includes Windows, Business, Education,
    Graphics, CAD, and BBS utils. Released 10/92. BBS Ready.

   *Simtel 20 April 93                                  $19.00
    This CD is an excellent addition to any BBS or private collection.
    It contains many Programing utils and many of the programs include
    the source code, Usually in C. Also contains great files to
    enhance your Commercial type programs.. BBS Ready!!!!

  *!Software Vault Collection 1                         $15.00
    635 Meg. Over 1,200 files. Librarian let's you search/creates
    files for Sysops. Great Interface. BBS Ready!!!

    TechnoTools                                         $22.00
    A programmers dream disk! Routines, utilities, debuggers,
    troubleshooters, and other tools for C/C++, Dbase, Clipper, Basic,
    Assembly, Al, Unix, Xenix, OS/2, Pascal, Ada, Fortran, Cobol,
    Btrieve, APL, Lisp, Forth, and more! Not BBS Ready.

    Too Many TypeFonts                                  $22.00
    Countless typefonts in all formats. TrueType, Adobe Type,
    Manager(ATM), Adobe Type 1, WFN, First Publisher, Ghostscript, HP
    Laserjet, and Epson dot matrix printer. Also includes type face
    modifiers, Font managers and uploaders, and tons of utilities! Not
    BBS Ready.

   !Windows 1993                                        $29.00
    680 meg. 7000 files. Corel draw, Utilites, Wallpaper, Games,
    Icons, Fonts, Clip art and more! BBS Ready!!

    WindowWare from Chestnut                            $22.00
    This CD is packed with tons of useful programs. TypeFonts, Font
    installers, Games, Home Business, Education, Icons, System
    optimizers and more. BBS Ready
    ==================================================================


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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 1949
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/14/93  4:53a
Subj: CD-WORLD 4                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                             CD-WORLD
 CD-WORLD                    Price list       For on-line orders call
 2650 Wedgefield RD          July  1993       The BBS at 803-481-7149
 Sumter SC 29154                              Voice 803-481-2276
                                              FIDO 1:3647/2

                                Adult

  *!Adult Reference Library                              $25.00
    Excellent CD. Not BBS Ready on the disk but you can download
    ARLibV1.zip from file area 9 and use it on your BBS.

  *!Asian Ladies                                         $40.00
    Premiun quality fantasy pictures of beautiful Oriental Women! 340
    Meg of Asian wonders. BBS Ready!!!

  *!Busty Babes                                         $40.00
    Follow up to Ecstasy 675 meg. Soundblaster Front loader. Enhanced
    Menu System, This is one of the best Adult CD's on the Market.
    Nothing but Rave Reviews and BBS Ready!!

   !Ecstasy From Hot Pics                               $40.00
    Elite adult CD. 560 meg, 2600 SVGA pics. 330 animations Sound. 470
    stories. BBS Ready!!!

   !GBL                                                 $45.00
    Alternative Lifestyles Disc. Features Gay, Lesbian and Bi.

   !Hot Pix 2                                           $40.00
    530 Megs of Adult scans and entertainment. BBS Ready!

   !Hot Pix 3                                           $40.00
    630 megs of top Quality adult. BBS Ready!

    Hot Pix 4                                           $40.00
    Best of the Windy City Scans. BBS Ready!

   !My Private Collection 1                             $40.00
    Adult Gif and DL files. Complete file disc. BBS Ready!!

   !My Private Collection 2                             $40.00
    Second in this Hot series. Complete file descriptions make this cd
    excellent for BBS use!

   !PC-Pix Vol 2                                        $40.00
    630+ Meg  BBS Ready. Hi Res Pics

    PC-Pix Vol 3                                        $40.00
    630+ Meg  BBS Ready. Hi Res Pics!!

    Seventh Heaven Seedy Rom #7 1992                    $40.00
    Megs of Hi Res Pictures. Part of the Seventh Heaven Series
    BBS Ready!!

   !Storm II                                            $30.00
    2nd in The Storm series of Adult CD's. Remastered Classic.
    Has install on the Storm III CD.

   !Storm III                                           $40.00
    Latest in the Storm series. Super VGA. For the ladies
    this disc includes. 112 meg of Male Pics. BBS Ready!!

    Smutware                                            $35.00
    640 meg. 1,000 1024x256 color photos, 2,000 800x600. 100 adult
    animations. BBS Ready!!

    Visual Fantasies                                    $40.00
    Over 2500 Pics. Remastered with compushow on CD.

    Volcano 1024x768x256 Gifs                           $45.00
    Very High Quality selection of 256 color Super VGA images.
    Includes a section of TARGA images.


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1950
  To: MICHAEL MULCAHY                          Date: 07/14/93  3:08p
Subj: Encyclopedia CD's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


MM> I am looking for an Encyclopedia CD collection that my  children
 MM> can utilize as a good reference for school.  I have  heard  that
 MM> there exists a few versions
 MM> on the market today.  Can  anyone  provide  me  info  on  what's
 MM> available on th emarket.  The pros and cons to  utilizing  a  CD
 MM> version compared to that of hard copy etc.
  
  
  I carry the 1992 21 volume Grolier"Academic America Encyclopedia"
  for $69.  This is the best encyclopedia I have seen.  It includes
  full text on 33,000 articles as well as  comprehensive  index  of
  all titles, words, pictures and maps.   In  addition,  there  are
  thousands of pictures, hundreds of sounds, and over 50  digitized
  video clips including NASA  missions,  major  sports  events  and
  famous people in history with motion video.  You can hear  famous
  speeches, musical compositions, animal sounds and bird calls with
  high-quality audio.  (Speaking of comparing a cd to  hard  copies
  of encyclopedias, the sound/music is  not  possible  with  them.)
  Since the quality and speed of indexing is so much more  advanced
  with a cd version of an  encyclopedia,  it  makes  research  much
  easier and more fun to use the cd.  Generating reports from paper
  requires a  great  deal  more  time  and  effort  than   pressing
  print-screen!
  
  Call 205-824-2552 to order.
 
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1951
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 07/14/93 10:45p
Subj: MUST SACRIFICE... YOU WIN               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 I must make a sacrifice to pay for some incoming product  so  I'm
  going to offer a $80 discount off the 4 remaining Quad setups  of
  Hitachi 3500 cd rom drives and a Cream of the Crop  shareware  cd
  that I have in stock.  If you act fast, for $600 +  $25  shipping
  and c.o.d. charges you can get:
  
  4 used Hitachi 3500 internal cd rom drives.
  Interface card
  4 bay external case
  110/220w power supply.
  External cable
  Caddies, Screws, power splitters, drivers...
  30 day warranty
  "Cream of the Crop"  Shareware cd !!
  Song and dance.
  
  Call 205-824-2552
 
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1952
  To: CAM LERCH                                Date: 07/15/93  9:44a
Subj: Old 600ms CD-ROM drives                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


CL> Does anybody have some old 600ms  drives?  Maybe  older??  I  am
 CL> looking for  the  cheapest  you  can  give  me..  maybe  $175.00
 CL> Canadian (With controller card!!) or without  but  I  need  them
 CL> soon.. I would like a pretty cheap one but I am reasonable..  So
 CL> if you got those old drives (Internal  or  external)  just  drop
 CL> me a note please!!!! soon!!! Thanks for your time!
  
  I have about 30 of them for $130 each.   They  are  used  Hitachi
  3500 internals.  The only controller cards I  have  are  new  and
  cost $60... but they will run up to 4 of these drives, making the
  average cost $145 per drive.  I have 4 setups  of 4  drives  with
  case and power supply with external  cable  in  stock  for  $600.
  Call 205-824-2552
 
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1953
  To: RUSSELL NABER                            Date: 07/15/93 10:00a
Subj: Questions                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


RN> I just got hooked into this echo and I have a  few  questions  I
 RN> hope somebody can help me with.
 RN>
 RN>
 RN> 1.) I have a Adaptec 1742b SCSI controller,  will  most  CD  ROM
 RN> drives work ok with this?  If  so  where  can  I  get  either  a
 RN> multiple scsi ribbon that has at least 5 pin connectors  on  it,
 RN> or where can I get the external type pin connector
  
  Most cd rom drives use a propitiatory card.  SCSI cd  drives  are
  usually more expensive... but I do have the Toshiba 3101 (Made by
  Toshiba America not Japan.  The  Japanese  ones  only  have  34 k
  buffer and aren't as good is other ways.)  for $249.   These  are
  new   (350   ms   access   time)   with   90    days    warranty.
  
  
 RN> 2.) Which CD-ROM drive is the best in the terms  of  price/speed
 RN> for BBS use.
  
  For a bbs you want as many drives as possible  since  sitting  up
  all night and changing out disc for your users is not  practical.
  I have use Hitachi internal (model 3500) drives  for  $130  each.
  The controller cards are new and cost $60.  You can daisy chain 4
  of these drives on a single controller card, making  the  average
  cost $145 per unit.  I also have 4 bay external cases  and  power
  supplies with external cable.  I am offering this setup for  $600
  for the last 4 setups I have in stock.
  
  
 RN> 5.) Also how are the directory's on  CD-ROMS  setup.  How  do  I
 RN> intergrate them with files.bbs type files for my  BBS  software.
  
  What BBS software are you running?  I have written  utilities  to
  automatically and instantly set up my  cd  "Cream  of  the  Crop"
  shareware cd  with  Maximus,  Spitfire,  Ra,  Qbbs  and  PCBoard.
  
  In order to set up a cd so that users can access the files from a
  bbs the Sysop usually  must  do  the  following  steps  MANUALLY:
  
  1.  Type in the file paths to the Files.bbs  (usually 50 +  areas
  on most cd's... Aprox. 1 hr.)
  
  2.  Type in the description for the files in each  area. (  Aprox
  30 min.)
  
  3.  Type in the security level that callers must have  to  access
  the  cd  AND  set  various  other  flags.  (   Aprox   30   min )
  
  4.  Copy the files.bbs to the hard drive AND increment  the  file
  names... i.e.  Files.1  Files.2  Files.3   etc... (  Aprox 1  hr.
  AND easy to get confused and make mistakes.)
  
  5.  With many bbs's you next have to change to the  directory  on
  your hard drive where you placed the  Files.<x>   and  then  edit
  EACH and EVERY listing and in some cases remove the time and date
  column.  ( Aprox. 1 DAY ! )
  
  6.  Finally you have to HOPE that all this was done  without  any
  mistakes because when I log on your bbs and see a file I want and
  it doesn't come I'll  leave  you a  message  saying  "What's  the
  problem with my security...  remember I  sent  you  $5?"   <grin>
  
  
  Call   205-824-2552   and   let   me   know   what   you    want.
 
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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 1954
  To: DUNCAN MARKLEY                           Date: 07/10/93 10:38a
Subj: MAC CDs FOR $ALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CM > AMUG BBS in a BOX VII  -  $40
CM > GIGA-ROM V.4  -  $50

 DM> Craig, do these have the file listings on them in some sort of format so
 DM> they can be used on a PC based system?  (Some of us out here support the
 DM> Mac with DOS machines!)  Thanks

      Hi Duncan.....I think you're out of luck here friend. You can't use HFS
format CD's in a PC drive. That's only the beginning of the problems. There is
an ISO9660 format Mac files disk out but it has serious problems and has been
deemed unusable by several sysops I know supporting Mac's with PC based systems
(it's put out by some folks in Florida I believe...don't know the name). Lots
of folks do support Macs with PC based machines. If you can be patient a little
longer I'm working on something......
    DCK


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From: JASON BURKHART                         Number: 1955
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  7:46p
Subj: Texel                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anybody got a Texel CD-ROM with 265ms with cables and 16 bit interface???? Must
beat $499.00. Thanx
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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 1956
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/13/93  3:29a
Subj: Night Owls 9.0                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I need Night Owls 9.0 ASAP!!!

Please send all bids and info (condition, price, warranty, ect.) to me
via this system or call my bbs directly at (804) 286-4685


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              *******     Over 30 Message Bases !     *******   * *   *    .
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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 1957
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 07/13/93  5:32p
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 JJ> 1 Mitsumi drive 150ms 150kb transfer

I highly douby that it is 150ms!

CJK

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 1958
  To: CAM LERCH                                Date: 07/13/93  5:33p
Subj: Old 600ms CD-ROM drives                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CL> Does anybody have some old 600ms drives? Maybe older?? 
 CL> I am looking for the cheapest you can give me.. maybe 
 CL> $175.00 Canadian (With controler card!!) or without 

Hey! I live in Canada, so this should be an almost done deal, I have 2
mitsumi's for sale, controller cards for both, I will take $375 for both of
them or $190obo individualy.

If you can, lets take this either netmail, my address is 1:3402/22. Or VOICE
(403)743-2137 or send it to me FAX (403)790-2341.

CJK

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From: TOM DAHLIN                             Number: 1959
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/13/93 10:57a
Subj: Busty Babes Rel 3.                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Hello, Lee, I was just wondering if the new release of BB is
basically the same as the first release? I already have Rel # 1
and don't want to buy another one if it is the same. I believe
you are removing the GIF's that were not suppposed to be there
in the first place, right?
    Thanks  Tom

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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 1960
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  5:41p
Subj: So Much Shareware 3!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                         The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 1-800-289-1ROM  FAX: (314) 521-7453
        $35.00         International 314-521-4862     $35.00

************* So Much Shareware 3.0 IN STOCK AND SHIPPING *************

Don't be the last on your block to get So Much Shareware 3.0! If you
snooze you lose in the "who's got the newest shareware on their BBS"
business nowadays... so call The MARKetplace now and reserve your copy...
You'll have your copy of the MOST popular shareware disk in the
world before ANYONE in your area!

If you don't buy from The MARKetplace... you'll be waiting tooooooo
long to get your SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3.0!

*********************************************************************
   VISA          1 - 8 0 0 - 2 8 9 - 1 R O M        MASTERCARD
              ---- 100s of Titles Available ----



 * WCE 1.02/2072 * Incontinence hotline...Can you hold please?


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From: NORM ROWE                              Number: 1961
  To: TOM SIMPSON                              Date: 07/14/93  9:12p
Subj: Cd Rom "bible Library"                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TS+Am looking for a CD ROM titled "Bible Library".  Would like one that was 
  +picked up in bundle at low price as I have limited resources.  Can be
reached 

Mike Shannon in his message titled "CAN U READ THIS?" is offering that 
one for $31 which is probably about as good as you'll find unless 
there's someone around who doesn't want theirs anymore and will sell 
it to you for less than that.  Even with limited resources, $31 is a 
pretty good deal for what all is available in that package.  (I have 
it and use it and am not about to part with my copy right now.)

Norm
___
 X 1st 1.11 #445 X Romulan warbird decloaking sir... /o[X+bO NO CARRIER

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1962
  To: KEVIN WAKEFIELD                          Date: 07/12/93 10:46a
Subj: Wicked cd                               Refer: NONE
Read: 12/15/93  6:56p                       Private: No 

KW>Has anyone here seen the adult CD "Wicked" supposedly starring 
  >Terri Weigel?  Just wondering what format the disc is, i.e., is 
  >it images (GIF, photo CD) or animations? 
 
Although I have not seen it yet, it is a Photo CD with Terri as the 
host. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1963
  To: MICHAEL KANKO                            Date: 07/12/93 10:54a
Subj: N OWL                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MK>Hi, does anyone here know about how much the new Night Owl 9 is? 
 
Anywhere from $29 to $49, depending on who you ask! ;)  Computer Works 
will match all advertised prices.  Be sure to quote your source. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: JESSE SCHMELZER                        Number: 1964
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  4:32a
Subj: NIght Owl 9.0                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can anyone beat the 29.00 for night owl 9.0?? if so give me the # to order.


 Jesse

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 1965
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 07/13/93 10:58p
Subj: So Much Shareware 3 Revie               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

               sssss  mmmmmmm  mmmmm        //  333333 
               sssss  mmmmmmm  mmmmm        /   3333333 
               ss     mm m mm  mm          //        33 
               ss     mm m mm  mm          /         33 
               sssss  mm m mm  mmmmm      //       3333 
                  ss  mm m mm     mm      /        3333 
                  ss  mm m mm     mm     //          33 
               sssss  mm   mm  mmmmm     /           33 
               sssss  mm   mm  mmmmm    //      3333333 
                                                333333 
                 NEW CD REVIEW: 
 
  Name: So Much Shareware 3 
 
  Publisher: Power User Software 
 
 
  "Distributed By": 
            SPYR Incorporated 
           Voice: 814-864-4666 
            Fax: 814-864-3993 
            BBS: 814-864-1230 
 
  Price: Retails at $69.oo 
 
  When: This just came out a few days ago, I pre-ordered mine and got it 
        on Saturday. 
 
 
  FREQ  "SMS3.ZIP" from 1:2601/566 (dual 16.8) for complete filelist. 
 
 
  What: Here's the stats that I've found: 
 
  quoted from back cover): 
 
   Contains 650 (Wrong, more like 680) MEGABYTES of the most exciting 
shareware programs available anywhere - AT ANY PRICE. 
 
   "Fantastic VGA arcade games, home & hobby, graphics, clip art, Sound 
files, financial programs, OS/2, Windows applications, Fonts & more! 
Really something for everyone." 
 
   "Our menu systen us both easy for the computer novice yet advanced 
enough for the POWER USER.  Featuring extensive online help, mouse 
support, Soundblaster support, command-line and run-time toggles, 
filelist printing, file tagging.  Includes an on-line CDrom door and 
much more!" 
 
   "No knowledge of file compression or ZIP files is necessary!" 
 
   "BBS ready with standard file lists inall directories." 
 
 
 Here's what I think (MY opinions of) this disk: 
 
                ** NO GIFS or JPEG Format Images ** 
(Why some manufacturers still put space-hogging images on their 
shareware disks is beyone me, they should put actual shareware PROGRAMS 
on Shareware cds and maybe make a whole seprate GIFS cd if they Want) 
 
 
                  *********** BBS READY *********** 
 This CD installed itself FOR me into my existing "Mike Robinson's SFrom 
or EZROM" door.  Letting the computer operate by itself for a minute 
while installing is much better than spending 30min to 2 hours 
installing a new disk, BELIEVE me, I've spent that much time installing 
disks before.  BTW if you have a bbs but dont use SFrom or EZrom yet, 
it'll install the CD-Rom door also! 
 
 
    As you can see, this is the easiest to use/setup and best Shareware 
cd out there.  But see for yourself, 
 
 
   Ask for So Much Shareware 3 wherever you buy quality CDrom disks! 
 
 
                        ...tim klan 
 
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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 1966
  To: TONY MACE                                Date: 07/13/93  7:59p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM DRIVE WANTED                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Tony Mace to All <=-

 TM> Am looking for a Tandy CDR-1000.  If you have one, please leave
 TM> message here  or call me 308-487-5378 after 3pm mtn time.
 TM> This drive is wanted ASAP!
 TM> Tony

        How much? I have one I might be willing to sell.
                                                                Edward


... "Hillary, where's my college yearbook, I need more staff"
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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 1967
  To: DENNIS STERNER                           Date: 07/13/93  7:59p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMS FOR SALE                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DS> I have the following CD-ROM discs for sale:
 DS> 1.  Compton's Family Encyclopedia - $30
 DS> Shipping is additional.  Leave message here or call 717-637-2972.

        I'm intrested in Compton's. My BBS number is 304-768-3682. How
 much would it costs for overnight shipping COD?
                                                        Edward

... Sacrifice, YES - Socialism, NO
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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 1968
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/13/93  7:59p
Subj: Re: SHERLOCK HOLMES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Eric Bravick to Sam Figueroa <=-
 EB> It needs a 350 ms or better to look and sound smooth.

        I have a demo of it that keeps crashing. My CDROM drive is
 800ms and I thought that was probably the cause.
                                                                        Edward


... First, it was Hillary.  Then Gennifer.  Now, it's us!
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From: BENJAMIN KEEN                          Number: 1969
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/13/93 10:27p
Subj: $$$                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I saw the message exchang between you and your 'customer', and your REAL 
customers, and to keep it short, I have to 'ditto' everything Mark Smitka 
said in his letter.
BTW, My address is 1528 Autumn Rd
                   Charleston, WV 25314-2306
                   304/343-4447, if you would send me a catalog.
BBTW, if this summer proves to be as lucrative as I expect, I hope to be 
getting a drive in the fall and I would certainly consider your company as 
my first choice. (Providing, of course, that you have Mac stuff)

-Ben


 This copy of Freddie 1.2.5 is being evaluated.
                                                        
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 1970
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 07/14/93  9:28a
Subj: Mitsumi drivers needed                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Todd,
 would version 2.1b help you out any? I have it for my internal Mit's
It seemed to load fine for me, I have 3 of them daisy chained and 3 more
externals..did not have any DMA or IRQ conflicts .....

If so let me know and I will zip it for you and send it your way....

see ya bubba
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 1971
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/14/93  9:38a
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

groupware has internal mitsumi's for $175.00 new. complete.....
give em a call
groupware
(206)-472-1400

bubba
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 1972
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  9:29p
Subj: C/C++ CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its C/C++ CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
987 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: BOB KELLY                              Number: 1973
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/13/93  6:30a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>MS>MS> I have a copy of The 7th Guest I would like to trade for other CD's.
MS>I
MS>MS>MS> willconsider all trades. What have you got???

MS> BK> Phoenix 3.0 Shareware NightOwl Business Applications Disk
MS> BK> MicroSoft Small Business Consultant

MS>Sorry Bob, I have both of these.

Howzabout trade for cash? How much would you want?

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From: BOB KELLY                              Number: 1974
  To: TONY MASSEY                              Date: 07/13/93  6:31a
Subj: Here We Are                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TM>BK>SQ>    Cheers BBS in beautiful Cambridge, Ontario, Canada is
TM>BK>SQ>    proud to be carrying this echo !!

TM>BK>And I'm so proud you told us about it...

TM>And I'm so proud that you're so proud that Cheers told us
TM>about it!!!

My pleasure! Anyone else out there proud about this?

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1975
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/15/93  2:31p
Subj: Re: nightowl 9                          Refer: 5372
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> First of all, you guys are home based businesses while we are full co
-> we pay rent, tax ect. We also stock everything we sell, I know for su
-> several of you doing this business as a second income. Can you host a
-> customer in place of your business?  So, do you think it is fair to c
-> with full commercial businesses?. Plus, we do have good prices with g
-> service. Regards

Who cares?  Stay on topic.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1976
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/15/93  2:22p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: 5377
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> the thread.  Since you are not the moderator, and I was participating
-> echo according to the rules that state I may warn others not to get r
-> by Terry Woodward, your post means nothing to me or the thread about
-> Woodward ripping me off.

That rule is news to me...

tim
moderator

-> By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me off?

p.s.  Look up the word "libel".
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1977
  To: BOB HALL                                 Date: 07/15/93  2:39p
Subj: NIGHTOWL 9                              Refer: 5335
Read: 10/31/93  7:38p                       Private: No 

-> want in the CDROM_SALE echo.  (ROTFLMAO)  Have all the fun you can st
-> with the bickering, whining, flaming, bitching, tattletelling, name

It keeps us on our toes... The only thing worse than flames are
uploaded CONFIG.SYSes, so it could be worse.

-> calling, and other related BS.  I am used to it, I have been doing it
-> for 8 years. And FYI, I have damned sure pulled feeds, several, and a

But have you been in CDs longer than the dude who did the Magnum discs?
(G&D&RLH).. ;)

tim
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From: STEVE PHILLIPS                         Number: 1978
  To: HENRY ARIAS                              Date: 07/13/93 10:35p
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll offer $25 for the ART CD if you still have it.

(Sounds interesting).

steve. 
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From: STEVE PHILLIPS                         Number: 1979
  To: HENRY ARIAS                              Date: 07/13/93 10:40p
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

One last question - are the graphics 640x480? I'd be rather disappointed
if most of the pictures were only 320x200, etc. If they are, and you still
have the disk, I'll offer $25 for it. Sounds interesting.

steve. 
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From: CHRIS STONER                           Number: 1980
  To: ALL CD ROM TITLE DEALERS                 Date: 07/14/93  7:32p
Subj: cd rom titles                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

anyone looking for new customers please drop me a cat. of your products.

chris stoner
12817 E. 47th st. # 27 hill
Independence, mo. 64055

 thanks 
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From: CRAIG MOSER                            Number: 1981
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/12/93  8:37p
Subj: Busty Babes Ships Next Week             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN> and once you test drive "Busty"--Your gonna be hooked !

When are we gonna see an HFS version of BB's? These ISO vers just dont cut it!
 

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From: DOUG BURDEN                            Number: 1982
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/13/93  5:28p
Subj: ANNOUNCEMENT                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send me some dealers info
WOODLAND CRAFTS
BOX 1163
ANGUS, ONT
LOM 1BO

Phone: 705 424-3721
Fax: 705 424-0166

Thanks
Doug Burden
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From: DOUG BURDEN                            Number: 1983
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/13/93  5:49p
Subj: ADULT CD'S                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone have any information on the following titles?

Best of Vivid
Vivid I
Vivid II
Kamasutra
101 Sex positions vol I
101 Sex positions vol II

are these any good?
who makes them?

        Thanks
Doug....
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1984
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 07/13/93  6:27p
Subj: Cd drives, software, &c.                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CB>27 Jun 93 06:41, Tim Helton wrote to Patrick Rosenheim:

CB> TH> YOUR LINE LENGTH IS TOO LONG.

CB>It's more likely that you are not placing hard carriage returns at th
CB>end of each lines (or your editor, etc. is taking them out).

Carlos, Thanks! I've tried a few different methods, and I think I've finally
settled on a solution. We'll see how it goes in the next few weeks.

TTYL,

Pat


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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1985
  To: ALLAN KENNEDY                            Date: 07/13/93  6:27p
Subj: Cd drives, software, &c.                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AK>PATRICK  I wish you could see the way your add spreads across and wra I'm
trying a *lot* of different options, Allan. Hopefully, ONE of them will work!
Thanks, Pat

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1986
  To: LEWIS BULLARD                            Date: 07/13/93  6:27p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LB>Pat, I would sure like to read your ads, but the formatting just give
LB>me the
LB>shivers! Please try to straighten this out, so I can comfortably read
LB>them.
LB>It's gotten to the point that I just look at the ad and click forward
LB>This
LB>is a sincere message, and not meant as any kind of flame.

I think you were responding to an ad posted in June, Lewis. The July postings
*should* improve (I hope!)....... BTW, I quoted *your* message verbatim. Was it
formatted that way? The reason I ask is, I *only* have formatting problems on
FIDO, all other NETS carry the messages exactly as posted. Regards, Pat

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1987
  To: STEVE STACY                              Date: 07/13/93  6:27p
Subj: Cde = cd's, educational                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SS>Patrick,  Glad to see that your posts are aligning correctly.  Lookin
SS>forward to your post on Texel bundels.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll get one out to you right away (maybe even in this packet).

Pat

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1988
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/13/93  6:27p
Subj: Let me try again.....                   Refer: NONE
Read: 07/16/93  6:25a                       Private: No 

TH>Good job, Patrick... I can read your ads!  ;)

TH>tim
TH>moderator

Tim,

I am PSYCHED!

Now, let me post a couple hundred right away......

;-)

Pat
moderated



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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1989
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/14/93  1:53a
Subj: Cd drives, kits, bundles                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600 Mastercard &
Visa accepted. Posted on 07/14/93, @ 01:37.

 PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                         PRICE

 MITSUMICDD CDD - Mitsumi CD-ROM drive                 189.00
 PHILIPSINT CDD - Philips internal CD-ROM drive        197.00
 CDDDRM600A CDD - Pioneer DRM-600A 6-disk changer      875.00
 CDDDRM604X CDD - Pioneer DRM-604X 6-disk changer     1304.00
 DM3024     CDD - Texel DM3024 internal CD-ROM drive   385.00
 DM5024     CDD - Texel DM5024 CD-ROM drive ext.       475.00
 CDDXM3401B CDD - Toshiba XM3401B internal drive       468.00
 3024PAS16  CDK - Texel DM3024 & PAS-16 sound card     557.00
 DM3024BB   CDK - Texel DM3024 int. bus. bundle        665.00
 DM3024MMB2 CDK - Texel DM3024 int. M/M bundle         831.00
 DM3024EB   CDK - Texel DM3024 internal ed. bundle     593.00
 DM3024/CB2 CDK - Texel DM3024 internal home bundle    558.00
 5024PAS16  CDK - Texel DM5024 & PAS-16 sound card     677.00
 5024T348   CDK - Texel DM5024 & T-348 par. SCSI       608.00
 5024T130   CDK - Texel DM5024 Cd-ROM & T-130 SCSI     536.00
 DM5024BB   CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. bus. bundle        747.00
 DM5024EB   CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. ed. bundle         712.00
 DM5024/CB2 CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. home bundle        653.00
 DM5024MMB2 CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. M/M bundle         938.00
 DM3024T130 CDK - Texel int. DM3024 & T130 SCSI        461.00

Prices & spec's subject to change without notice. Best time to call: 7-10 AM &
9-12 PM Mon - Fri, all day Sat & Sun (EASTERN)

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From: DAN HATTERICK                          Number: 1990
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 07/13/93  2:52a
Subj: 30 CD DRIVES $130 EACH                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does a controller card come with a drive at 130$.Your saying that
If I bought 2 I could plug them into one card?

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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 1991
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/13/93  4:09p
Subj: CAN U READ THIS?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello There Mike!

In a message to All <07/12/93> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS>  ALL READERS:  Please let me know if you can read this OK.  Thanks
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^
You were kidding of course.??? ( I hope )

John

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1992
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/13/93 10:22p
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Ismail!

Tuesday July 13 1993, Ismail Arslangiray writes to Doug Carpenter:

 IA> First of all, you guys are home based businesses while we are full
 IA> commercial, we pay rent, tax ect. We also stock everything we sell, I know
 IA> for sure that, several of you doing this business as a second income. Can
 IA> you host any of your customer in place of your business?  So, do you think
 IA> it is fair to compare you with full commercial businesses?. Plus, we do
 IA> have good prices with good service.

Oh, give it a rest.  Being a home-based business is not a dirty word.  I am
proud to be an American, as that allows me to HAVE a home-based business.  In
what other country would you be so free to generate extra income to provide
better for your family?  And I doubt that any of my customers in this echo
really care about being hosted in my place of business.  They're here to get a
fair deal on quality discs... not sit around groping the one-eyed trouser trout
(which must be what goes on at your store, now that your wife threw your ass
out).  ;-)


... Beavis and Butt-Head in '96!

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From: JASON BUCHANON                         Number: 1993
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/13/93 10:31p
Subj: Night Owls 9                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you have the Nightowls #9 in stock?  What does the owl look like on the
cover of this one?  seems the maker of Nightowls changes the owl  every new
relese.

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1994
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/13/93 10:57p
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Ismail!

Tuesday July 13 1993, Ismail Arslangiray writes to Doug Carpenter:

 IA> First of all, you guys are home based businesses while we are full
 IA> commercial, we pay rent, tax ect. We also stock everything we sell, I know
 IA> for sure that, several of you doing this business as a second income. Can
 IA> you host any of your customer in place of your business?  So, do you think
 IA> it is fair to compare you with full commercial businesses?. Plus, we do
 IA> have good prices with good service.

Oh, give it a rest.  Being a home-based business is not a dirty word.  I am
proud to be an American, as that allows me to HAVE a home-based business.  In
what other country would you be so free to generate extra income to provide
better for your family?  And I doubt that any of my customers in this echo
really care about being hosted in my place of business.  They're here to get a
fair deal on quality discs... not sit around groping the one-eyed trouser trout
(which must be what goes on at your store, now that your wife threw your ass
out).  ;-)


... Beavis and Butt-Head in '96!

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1995
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/14/93  8:08a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: 07/16/93  6:27a                       Private: No 

 -> This is a public warning to anyone planning on trading/buying discs f
 -> Woodward.  I shipped a disc to Terry, on the condition he would cross
 TH> And this is a public warning for you to stop whining.  EOT.

I posted a public statement, once, that I had been defrauded by Terry Woodward.
  That has been allowed in the past, and I followed suit.  I don't understand
your statement about whining.  Whining is what Terry did when he made the
statement that the disc I mailed him was not what he expected, and about how
hard his life was since he also had to help a disabled individual set up his
computer, instead of fulfilling previous obligations.  He tried to steal from
me, and I prevented it, and hopefully protected others from his misdeeds.  I
have traded with many people in the past, and he is the first to try and give
me the shaft. And as you and Terry's friends so love to say, EOT.

 * MKRead v1.01 * 'i' before 'e', except in Budweiser


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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1996
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/14/93  8:16a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TW> NOW it's the end of the thread. But I'll just bet you can't let it
 TW> go...

Fraud, thief, liar.  Choose your favorite.  All apply in your case.  You lied
to me, you tried to steal from me, and then you defrauded me by failing to
complete the trade.  If you were not guilty, you would have ignored my posts. 
Since you feel the need to prolong this, you must have a feeling of guilt for
you actions.  Mkae good on the transaction and send my disc.  That is all I
have wanted from the start.  And you are right about one thing.  I will never
forget someone who tries to steal from me.  If all I have said about you is
false, prove it and send my disc.  I will return yours to you.  Remember, I
completed the trade like I said.  You did'nt.  Do it now and prove your good
name.

 * MKRead v1.01 * BEWARE - Tagline Thief in this echo


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1997
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/14/93  7:14a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The "test" was perfect! I wonder if it's my offline reader doing this?  I'll
check into that - maybe the trouble's on *MY* end. 
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 1998
  To: KEITH HERALD                             Date: 07/14/93  8:52a
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-sale or trad               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KH>KH>> SS> I have STORM II adult CD-ROM for sale or trade, I would prefer

KH>KH>>        I have the Stareware CD that I will trade you for your STORM II.

KH>        I am still interested. Let me know.

KH>Keith Herald

        Keith,  If you still have this CD and would like to trade, I am
        agreeable.   Let me know.   Shane Snyder
                                    286 Main St.  Apt #3
                                    Greenville,  PA  16125
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From: CLARK PASCHALL                         Number: 1999
  To: ED WILKINS                               Date: 07/14/93  7:16p
Subj: Re: Unix clone...pd                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

This is a second post, I was looking through the latest Nuts&Volts today 
and saw where you can get the above mentioned files on CD for $49.95.  
The # is 707-769-1648, Just Computers!, P.O. Box 751414, Petaluma, CA 
94975-1414.

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From: JD BROWN                               Number: 2000
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/13/93  9:05p
Subj: Walnut Creek CD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone have the new Walnut Creek OS/2 CDROM, June 1993, available?
I would rather buy from a dealer, (keep you in business) than direct.

___
 X KWQ/2 1.2a X First, you put the lawyers up against a wall. . .

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From: LEN BUSSEY                             Number: 2001
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/14/93  3:15a
Subj: Cd Swap                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following CD's I'd like to swap for shareware CDs and/or 
adult CD's.
 
Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
The Secret of Monkey Island
Loom
 
Call me at 615-659-9216 voice or
           615-659-6470 FIDO node 3622/10 or 2010 BBS

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2002
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/14/93 10:29p
Subj: weekly cdrom specials                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** PCJ Computing WEEKLY SPECIALS *** MUST BE ORDERED BY JULY 17 ***
*** Orders Only 800-547-7817 / Inquiries (24 Hours) 615-339-0235 ***
 
Family Doctor...................21.95 Time Almanac 1990........11.95
World Fact Book.................14.95 So Much Shareware........14.95
Grolier's Encyclopedia v5 (DOS).31.95 Game Pack 2 (STW)........16.95
Toolworks Reference Library.....15.95 Hot Pix v4...............19.95
Shareware Explosion (all 1991)..16.95 PC Sig v11...............21.95
After Dark trilogy (Rimfire)....34.95 Electronic Home Library..18.95
Corel v3.0 - 3 1-/2 Disc........61.95 Shareware Studio 2.......19.95

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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 2003
  To: KEVIN LAM                                Date: 07/15/93  1:41a
Subj: To Canada                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> What if I'm not a sysop, and want 3-day shipping?  How much will it c
->
-> (To Canada, remember)

   Hi Kevin,
   CD-WORLD ships to Canada Air Mail for $4.00. This will cover up to 5
cd's. If you haven't already then Freq CD-WORLD.zip from 1:3647/2 or
call my BBS at 803-481-7149 and log on as Guest. PW Guest... Running at
14,400 the file takes about 1 min to download....

   Have a good one.
   David McSpadden CD-WORLD "Home Of Low Prices"


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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 2004
  To: BOB CENTERBAR                            Date: 07/15/93  1:49a
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Is there an adult CD, R Rated, with nude and semi-nude images that I
-> use without any worry.  Some told me that the Giffy Girls CD came wit
-> release, any truth to that one?

 Hi Bob,
 Sounds like Digital Dreams will fit the bill for you. It is an R rated
cd from Ero Tek. Claims original scans so that should take care of your
Court worries.... CD-WORLD price $29.00. Call me at 803-481-2276 to
place an order. You can call my BBS at 803-481-7149 and log on as Guest
PW Guest to download CD-WORLD.zip for a listing of all the titles I
carry with descriptions of each.....

 Have a good one
 David McSpadden CD-WORLD "Home Of Low Prices"


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From: KEVIN PAUSCHE                          Number: 2005
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/14/93  2:19p
Subj: Re: Old 600ms CD-ROM drives             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CK>  CL> Does anybody have some old 600ms drives? Maybe older?? 
CK>  CL> I am looking for the cheapest you can give me.. maybe 
CK>  CL> $175.00 Canadian (With controler card!!) or without 
CK> 
CK> Hey! I live in Canada, so this should be an almost done deal, I have 2
CK> mitsumi's for sale, controller cards for both, I will take $375 for both of
CK> them or $190obo individualy.
CK> 

$190 for a used 600 ms?  New mitsumis can be purchased for about $300 here..  
And they're 350 ms and brand new

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From: JASON BURKHART                         Number: 2006
  To: HOWARD ABRAHAM                           Date: 07/14/93 10:50p
Subj: sierra                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How bout Space Quest 5??? 
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From: JASON BURKHART                         Number: 2007
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/14/93 10:57p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Yo can I get a catalog from ya??
1204 East Taylor
1204 east Taylor
Benton Il. 62812
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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 2008
  To: BOB KELLY                                Date: 07/15/93  5:11a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Jul 13 06:30>, Bob Kelly of 1:275/16 writes:

MS>MS>MS> I have a copy of The 7th Guest I would like to trade for other CD's.
MS>I
MS>MS>MS> willconsider all trades. What have you got???

MS> BK> Phoenix 3.0 Shareware NightOwl Business Applications Disk
MS> BK> MicroSoft Small Business Consultant

MS>Sorry Bob, I have both of these.

 BK> Howzabout trade for cash? How much would you want?

Lets see.... I paid $55.00 for it. 1/2 price would be $27.50 add in the
shipping to VA. and we are looking at $31.00 delivered.

Michael

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From: BILL JONES                             Number: 2009
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/14/93  6:53p
Subj: Re: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Prints perfect on my monitor Mike.
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From: BOB SPILLERS                           Number: 2010
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/14/93  7:41p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE # PO BOX 8160 # YAKIMA WA 98908 # 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
MS> VISA # MC # AMEX # DISCOVER # SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs # 509-457-2966 (FAX)

MS>---
MS> # SLMR 2.1a # My computer's down. Can someone send it flowers?

MS>--- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
MS> * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR
(1:3407/10


Please send me a copy of your catalog.
                                      Bob Spillers
                                      2201 Lithia Rd.
                                      Valrico FL   33594

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From: JIM REED                               Number: 2011
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/14/93  9:57p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DR>Hello Michael!

DR>Terry is a VERY respected man in this echo, and it'll take a lot more
   than the likes of you to change that.

DR>Terry is honest enough that I send discs to him BEFORE being paid.

MS>I have dealt with him several times, both from the
   sending AND receiving end, and I've found him to be very polite and
   honest in his dealings with me.


And this is a public warning for you to stop whining.
tim
moderator


DR>Welcome to my twit filter, sport.

/JIM/

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From: JIM REED                               Number: 2012
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/14/93 10:01p
Subj: michael benge                           Refer: NONE
Read: 07/16/93  6:30a                       Private: No 

Hi Tim;
        I apologize in advance for prolonging this thread but I had to
        get my 2 cents worth in.
                                /JIM/

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From: DAVE KALWISHKY                         Number: 2013
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/14/93 10:52p
Subj: Mitsumi's for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CK> I have one LU002 mitsumi for sale. Internal, comes with card and
  > cable,350ms access time (I think) and 150Kb/sec transfer rate.
  > I am asking $230 for it. I also have a drive that looks EXACTLY

Just thought I'd ket you know that you can purchase the LU005 drivers for
$187...

     -=> Dave <=-     Tue  07-13-1993


 -- SPEED 1.4d #1039: I've seen the evidence.  I want DIFFERENT evidence...


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From: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN                     Number: 2014
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/15/93  1:55a
Subj: Re: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Bob Jackson <=-

 BJ> MS> ****************************************************************
 BJ> MS> ***
 BJ> MS> July 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last up
 BJ> MS> 7/08
 BJ> MS> ****************************************************************
 
 Hi, Mike. Your post was very legible to me. I would very much appreciate 
 if you would put me on mailing list for your CD-ROM catalog.  Many
 thanks.
                              William T. McClain
                              3302 Dorchester St.
                              Tampa, FL 33611

... See ya later.      -Mac-    
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From: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN                     Number: 2015
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/15/93  2:12a
Subj: Re: RED HOT CD'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Reply to msg originally in CD Rom For Sale

 -=> Quoting Boris Osadciw to All <=-

 BO> $$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

Hi, Boris. If you have a mail out catalog  I would very  much appreciate 
one.
                       William T. McClain
                       3302 Dorchester St.
                       Tampa, FL 33611


... See ya later.      -Mac-  
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 2016
  To: JOE STEVENS                              Date: 07/14/93 12:54p
Subj: CD ROM...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hi joe.
I have sevaral intenal mitsumi's and found that they are very reliable.
For the price tag of $175.00 complete, you can't beat it....
bubba
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From: RICH JACKSON                           Number: 2017
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/12/93  6:36p
Subj: OUR TRADE                               Refer: NONE
Read: 07/16/93  6:30a                       Private: No 

 >-> Please don't give out my phone number on a national echo. It's unlist
 >-> for a real good reason.

 > If you can't back up your opinions with a voice phone number,
 > then don't
 > post.  What are you hiding?

 > tim
 > moderator

Excuse me Tim, 1) this is an INTERNATIONAL Echo... You being the moderator
should know that.   2) I wouldnt want some Jerk off calling me at 2am to tell
me my opinion sucked... My phone number is unlisted for the same reason.

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From: MARK STEIGER                           Number: 2018
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/14/93 12:47p
Subj: interface card                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

I'm looking for a 16 bit sound card that has an external scsi port on it for my
new cd rom drive.  Anyone got any suggestions?  Would like to keep it
semi-resonable


Mark

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From: GARY JOHNSON                           Number: 2019
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/14/93 10:15p
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  ³ Hmmm,    
  ³  
  ³ I wonder why that is.  I have my right margin set to 75, and it never   
  ³ changes.  In fact, I think you're the only one in this conference who has
  ³ informed me of this.  I wonder if others see it wrapping too.  Let me
  ³ post another test listing, and see what happens . . .
  ³  CD Winbox (New!)..............29.00    PC Gameroom...................28.00
  ³ Please give me your feedback on this also.
  ³
Looks good to me. But I've never had a problem with your ads.

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 2020
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/14/93  2:35p
Subj: CAN U READ THIS?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS>  ALL READERS:  Please let me know if you can read this OK.  Thanks

Yup!
PS- how long did you say it usually takes for a CD to get to Canada?

CJK

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 2021
  To: DAN HATTERICK                            Date: 07/14/93  2:35p
Subj: CD ROM SPEED VS. BBS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DH> Unless your BBS software copies the
 DH> files to the hard drive before they download which 
 DH> mine does.

What are you using? I would like to get a hold of something like this... for
Maximus if possible!

CJK

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From: MIKE TUTHILL                           Number: 2022
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/14/93 10:41p
Subj: CAN U READ THIS?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

14 Jul 93, Chris Kuefler muttered something about CAN U READ THIS?

Hi Chris,

 MS>> ALL READERS:  Please let me know if you can read this OK.  Thanks

 CK> Yup!
 CK> PS- how long did you say it usually takes for a CD to get to Canada?

My experience is that it takes 2-3 weeks for them to get here to the Fort.  I
think the customs guys are copying all the good stuff off of them before
sending them along:-)  Seriously, they seem to open virtually every CD parcel I
get and I'm not on any security risk lists as far as I know.

Take care.

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From: MIKE TUTHILL                           Number: 2023
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/14/93 10:46p
Subj: CD ROM SPEED VS. BBS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

14 Jul 93, Chris Kuefler muttered something about CD ROM SPEED VS. BBS

Hi Chris,

 DH>> Unless your BBS software copies the
 DH>> files to the hard drive before they download which
 DH>> mine does.

 CK> What are you using? I would like to get a hold of something like this...
 CK> for Maximus if possible!

There's several programs available.  One that come to mind that I believe does
what you want is CDMAXDOR.ZIP.  I think it might be on Bruce's system.  Let me
know if you can't find it and I'll u/l on your board.  By the way, unless you
plan on adding a second node with access to the CD-ROM you really don't need to
copy the files over to your hard drive first as the CD-ROM drive can transfer
data faster than your modem can transmit it.  There may be reasons other than
speed for doing that however.

Take care.

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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 2024
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/13/93 10:21p
Subj: Re: CAN U READ THIS?                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looks OK to me!...could you please send your latest catalog?
  J. Ellen Cotton
  1105 N.W. 6th Place
  Moore, OK 73160
      Thanks!

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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 2025
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/14/93 10:21a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > TO ALL READERS . . . The following is a section of my
 > ad.  Please reply
It isn't wrapping here Mike

 > back as to whether or not it is legible:

 > Please give me your feedback on this also.

It is comming accross in two nice neet columns

..Red..

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From: JOHN FIKET                             Number: 2026
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/14/93 10:22a
Subj: Re: Problems...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* Replying to a message originally to Michael Kelly on 05-Jul-93

BT> First of all, EXCUSE me for not having the language skills that you deem
BT> so important. I wasn't as fortunate as others, being able to attend
BT> school. I had to drop out to make a living.

    Please stop whining. This is not a self-help echo, it is a CD Buy and Sell
echo. People, including myself, do not particulary care about your problems. I
beleived you mentioned earlier that you were about to strap a discrimination
suit on someone here. As this is VR and not face to face communications, our
opinions are not biased by apearance, etc, but only by the thoughts and ideas
proposed.

BT> As far as my message, if YOU had read the earlier message that i was
BT> replying to. YOU would have known what i am talking about>
BT>
BT> I did not start this coversation, I was just replying. EXCUSE ME!

    Perhaps if you could not take things so personally.

                                                        John Paul Fiket


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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 2027
  To: JERRY CORNELIUS                          Date: 07/13/93  9:25p
Subj: Eh?                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JC> I understood that you cut that fellow from Free Spirit Software off.  I thi
JC> his name was Mike Mann, I still see him at the computer swaps.  Did I
JC> misunderstand your post when you said that you took care of him?

JC> BTW, what's your voice telephone number?

Well, since you're asking questions, I have one:
Did you know that there is a fictional hero with your name in a British
SF&F series by Mike Moorcock? It'd be a great "handle".

 * SLMR 2.1a * This message didn't deserve one of my GOOD taglines.


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From: WARREN DANIO                           Number: 2028
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/14/93 11:00a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB > By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me
MB > off?
         Hey KID, why don,t you go in the closet and play
        with your flashlight. More damn Whiners!!!!

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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 2029
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/14/93  5:52p
Subj: .\\                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

               *****  Quoting Michellea Sorensen to All  *****


 MS> .\\ichellea

Looks like the .\\ proliferation has begun!  <g>  Thought you'd be interested!
Best Regards.

,\\ark



 
... I am Clinton of Borg: resistance is taxable!
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From: MIKE JORDAN                            Number: 2030
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/13/93  6:23p
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Night Owl 9 is a 670mb CD with all 1993 file dates,
 > and files grouped into 60 file areas.  Very little to no duplication to
 > previous Night Owl releases, and perfect for online use with built-in
 > file listings.
 > For BBS use, I'd rate Night Owl 9, Pier2, and Software
 > Vault 2 as the best I've seen.  Pricing:  Night Owl 9 $37, Pier2 $37,
 > and Software Vault 2 $24.


  Mike, I'm a door author with 5 doors out and a 6th on it's way and I was
wondering if you would be interested in a trade of registrations for my doors
for CDs?  I've already gotten Software Vault 2 (you are right, it's an
excellent CD) and Winbox (great if you want windows files) but I'd be
interested in getting Night Owl 9, Pier2 or any other Shareware type CD like
these.  If you are intersted I'll be glad to send you details on my doors.


Thanks

Mike

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From: BRANDON YOWELL                         Number: 2031
  To: ANYONE OUT THERE...                      Date: 07/14/93  4:55p
Subj: Wanted...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If anyone out there has a PC-Compatible "arbitrary precision arithmetic"
program, a friend of mine is looking for one.
* SPITFIRE v3.3

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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 2032
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/15/93 10:11a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

             Mike shannon spoke these words of wisdom>>>
-> Michael,
->
-> In defense of Terry, I have dealt with him several times, both from t
-> sending AND receiving end, and I've found him to be very polite and
-> honest in his dealings with me.  I honestly don't think Terry was out
-> cheat you Michael, it's just that sometimes there ARE extenuating
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-> circumstances that put a person's commitments on hold.  He told me
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-> about his ill mother also, so he is telling the truth.
->
-> Oh yeah, please don't drag me into this - I have enough trouble of my
-> own.  Just adding my honest opinion about a person I feel has treated
-> very professionally.
->
-> Later,
-> .\\ike

Double standard there mike?


moderator  this will be the last post about this subject <
my apologies.
bubba
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 2033
  To: JESSE SCHMELZER                          Date: 07/15/93 10:04a
Subj: NIght Owl 9.0                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Can anyone beat the 29.00 for night owl 9.0?? if so give me the # to
->

jesse
     call  Groupware, I purchased 2 of them at $25 A PIECE shipped
darn good price ..

GROUPWARE
(206)472-1400

bubba
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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2034
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/15/93 10:46a
Subj: Toshiba CDROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin SCSI,
  300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,
  64k buffer.  

205-837-5053 




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From: RYAN COZZUBBO                          Number: 2035
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/13/93 12:22p
Subj: help                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I was wondering if anyone knew where I can get a cd-rom full of
anime/japanimation. thanks RPC

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From: MICHAEL KANKO                          Number: 2036
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 07/15/93  2:10p
Subj: Well                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL> MK>Hi, does anyone here know about how much the new Night Owl 9 is? 
JL>  
JL> Anywhere from $29 to $49, depending on who you ask! ;)  Computer Works
JL> will match all advertised prices.  Be sure to quote your source. 
JL>  
JL>                                                         Jim... 
JL> Computer Works 
JL> CD-Rom Sales! 
JL> (205) 793-4481 Voice 
JL> (205) 671-0092 BBS 
JL>  
JL> --- FreeMail 1.08b
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JL> 
Well, since the lowest you've come across is $29 then is that a 
valid price for me to purchase it at?
Thanks.. Mike
 
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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2037
  To: RON THOMPSON                             Date: 07/14/93  8:04a
Subj: Apple Cd-Rom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RT>   Thanks for the information you gave me. I will definitely check this
RT>out.

No problem. IMHO, one of the best CDrom deals on the market today is the
Apple CD-300. It's double spin, buffered, and true SCSI-2 interfaced.
And it's going for $399 at my local Comp-USA. It keeps up well with my
Nec-84 and costs about half of what the Nec did.

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2038
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/14/93  8:23a
Subj: Benge debacle                           Refer: NONE
Read: 07/16/93  6:33a                       Private: No 

Tim,

I want to apologize for the recent mess. It caught me at a bad time.
Overworked, family health problems, etc. It's no excuse but I was
off guard. I will stop any and all discussions of it immediately.

Besides, I've got three models to shoot in the next week and I don't
want to be distracted. <grin>.

Sorry,
Terry

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2039
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/16/93  6:32a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: 5477
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> moderator  this will be the last post about this subject <
-> my apologies.

I hope so, Bubba.

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2040
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/16/93  6:36a
Subj: Benge debacle                           Refer: 5483
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Besides, I've got three models to shoot in the next week and I don't
-> want to be distracted. <grin>.

I heard that!  If you need any on-site help, I volunteer ;).

tim
moderator
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From: THOMAS KINNEN                          Number: 2041
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 07/14/93  8:59p
Subj: Mitsumi drivers needed                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Todd!

In a message to All <07/12/93> Todd Crawford wrote:

TC> @SUBJECT:MITSUMI DRIVERS NEEDED   &  DISK FOR SALE                   N

FREQ MITSUMI.ZIP from 1:371/26 ... it is Version 2.10a that will loadhi
with qemm.

                        Tom

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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 2042
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/15/93  5:23p
Subj: NIGHTOWL 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> First of all, you guys are home based businesses while we are full
-> commercial, we pay rent, tax ect. We also stock everything we sell, I
-> know for sure that, several of you doing this business as a second
-> income. Can you host any of your customer in place of your business?
-> So, do you think it is fair to compare you with full commercial
-> businesses?. Plus, we do have good prices with good service. Regards

Ismail, I don't think the costs you incur running your store front make 
a bit of difference. I don't live within driving distance anyway. Those 
of us who shop via BBS (or US Mail for that matter) just want our 
product delivered to our door quickly and at a good price.

You can look at your store front costs as belonging to your walk in 
customers. Those of us on the BBS don't care a bit about your costs but 
DO care about your service and prices.

James

BTW, I am not a dealer either with a store or via the mail. I have 
bought almost all my software both at home and at work via mail order. 
Never once have I wished to be hosted in a place of business (nor have I 
requested a cup of coffee to be included in my shipments.)
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From: PATRICK SHEN                           Number: 2043
  To: HERMAN WIGGINS                           Date: 07/14/93 12:39a
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HW>Shareware overload, do it have files.bbs and also what the date on the
HW>files..

Shareware Overload has file list that I believe you can import into your BBS
file listing.  Most of the file dated 1991-1992.  If you want it, I can let
you have it for $18 shipped.  Please send check or Money order to the address
below.  I'll ship the CD-ROM to you ASAP.  Thanks.

Patrick Shen 852 Niagara Ave. San Francisco, CA 94112

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 2044
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/14/93  7:49p
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-SIG #12....................28.00 
  >CD Winbox (New!)..............29.00    PC Gameroom...................28.00 
MS>Please give me your feedback on this also. 
 
 completely readable.  Even when quoted and moved over 3 spaces, it 
still fits snugly 
 
        ...tim klan 
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2045
  To: JEFF OLESEN                              Date: 07/15/93  9:31a
Subj: Nasa roms                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> I noticed your message to someone else. Do you have any more of the NASA
>> ROMS available? Can you tell me where I can order new ones from? I have
>> been looking for them (not very hard though) for some time now.

    No, I don't have any more.  The only place I know to get them is off
of the NASA info sight on Internet.

Eric


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2046
  To: EDWARD CROUSER                           Date: 07/15/93  9:32a
Subj: Re: SHERLOCK HOLMES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> I have a demo of it that keeps crashing. My CDROM drive is
>> 800ms and I thought that was probably the cause.
>> Edward

    800ms!  I bet that's it.  WAY to much info commin' down the pipes
with this CD for an 800ms Drive.

Eric


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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 2047
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/16/93  1:44a
Subj: Re: BRAND NEW CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Question, you did not mention anything about MID files?  Or was that because
there aren't any?

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 2048
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/15/93  6:03p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> Oh yeah, please don't drag me into this - I have enough trouble of

Generally, I don't comment on something and then ask not to be dragged in, as
commenting in the first place involves you.  But, I will honor your request, as
it was one of the more civil comments I received.

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2049
  To: DICK HUDDLESTON                          Date: 07/15/93  6:38p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Ships Nex               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <07-11-93 15:26> Dick Huddleston wrote:

DH>>  LN> The infamous "Busty Babes" will be back on the market and

DH>>  Would you mind giving it a 'rating' like the movie.....

Busty is a "XXX" all the way :)

DH>> a few of the adult CDs and their ratings (in your opinion)?  I am
DH>> sometimes surprised that 'adult' CDs are the bathing suit shots.

Agreed--I don't mind compiling a list for you ! Give me a day or two, just got
back from 'Vegas and my brains are slot mush :)

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2050
  To: CRAIG MOSER                              Date: 07/15/93  6:41p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Ships Next Week         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <07-12-93 20:37> Craig Moser wrote:

CM>> When are we gonna see an HFS version of BB's? These ISO vers just
CM>> dont cut it!

Not to be ignorant--But is this HFS for the Mac or Amiga--We ask the pressig
house for a more universal format and they are working on this as we speak so
that 1 disc can serve many a platform.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2051
  To: TOM DAHLIN                               Date: 07/15/93  6:43p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Rel 3.                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <07-13-93 10:57> Tom Dahlin wrote:

TD>>   Hello, Lee, I was just wondering if the new release of BB is
TD>> basically the same as the first release? I already have Rel 1.0

Yes, this is basically the same, with the difference that alot of scans were
removed (well over 1,000)--If you own a previous version, it would not be worth
your while to get 3.0--Thanks for asking !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2052
  To: JASON TAYNOR                             Date: 07/15/93  7:14p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <07-11-93 16:39> Jason Taynor wrote:

JT>> Could someone tell me something about the difference between the
JT>> older and newer (3.0) Busty Babes?

NO models, no filmstars, and a real decreased probability that the disc
contains playboy/penthouse on it,--Removed alot of the amateurs, and reduced
the disc from 670 MB to 520 MB. Alot safer for sysops now--Plus 3.0 has a new
interface called, "ShowOff"--Look at 16 images at a time, manipulate the disc
with great ease, and zoom and enlarge your favorite section of the image many
times over--

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 2053
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/15/93 11:26a
Subj: Mitsumi drivers needed                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BT>  would version 2.1b help you out any? I have it for my internal Mit's
 BT> It seemed to load fine for me, I have 3 of them daisy chained and 3 more

You mean to tell me that you had 3 internal mitsumi's daisy chained?

CJK

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 2054
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/15/93 12:54p
Subj: ANNOUNCEMENT                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 VS>    I sure will.. our catalogs will be printed by the time we get back,
 VS> so feel free to send me your address if you'd like one. You can reach me
 VS> netmail at 1:140/121, by phone 306-789-4654, by fax 306-789-8690, or by
 VS> snailmail at 6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, SK., S4N 4G7

Hmm.... I tried to send you netmail, but after 2 failed attempts, (your side
hung up on me before it sent the mail) I have decided to enter my address and
stuff here!

Chris Kuefler
22-400 Silin Forest Road
Ft McMurray Alberta (Canada)
T9H-3S5

Please reply if you get this, if I dont get a reply, I guess Ill have to fax
it!

CJK

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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 2055
  To: ERIC JORGENSEN                           Date: 07/15/93  9:50p
Subj: Cheap CD-ROM Drives                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EJ>i would like to buy a cd-rom drive and controller and stuff... what's the
  >cheapest price i can get to gte everything i need to run a cd-rom drive?

I dont sell CDROM drives....
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From: DANNY BANISTER                         Number: 2056
  To: ALLAN KENNEDY                            Date: 07/11/93  5:28p
Subj: Cd drives, software, &c                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>PATRICK  I wish you could see the way your add spreads across and wraps
>on my
>screen. You proablly have some good prices and I would like too check
>them out,
>but your adds are so hard to read I just delete them when they pop up. I am
>sure you would do your bussiness a great service if you would revamp the way
>you write your adds.

    Patrick, I've had the same problem viewing your ads!

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From: LYN BORCHERT                           Number: 2057
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/15/93  7:48a
Subj: Old CD-ROMs                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                              JEM DISC CD-ROM
                          Old CD-ROM Trade-In Deal
              (offer must be postmarked no later than 9/1/93)
           -----------------------------------------------------
    Tired of looking at those old CD-ROM discs that you bought thinking
    they were going to be one thing, but they were not what you wanted at
    all.  You can't even give them away cause you'd be too embarrassed to let
    anyone know how bad you got ripped off.  Your troubles are over cause
    those old useless CD-ROMs are worth $10.00 towards the purchase of JEM
    DISC.  For a limited time, you can take advantage of this fantastic
    offer.  Just fill out the order form, send along that old CD Disc that
    isn't damaged but will never get used again, and you save $10.00 off the
    price of a new JEM Disc packed full of great programs and more.

    Jem Disc CD-ROM is packed with over 500 meg of Shareware & Public
    Domain files selected with the SysOp in mind and organized for easy
    assimilation into your BBS.

    To take advantage of this offer, simply file request JEM-TRADE from
    either of our support boards listed below.

    Or you can call in and download the order form and other information
    freely before the logon process, so it's fast and easy.

    The Holiday BBS     1:203/49  (916) 921-9949  Intel V.32 14.4
    The Hour Glass BBS  1:300/12  (602) 326-2999  USR Dual Stand. 14.4

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From: JESSE SCHMELZER                        Number: 2058
  To: TROY JOHNSON                             Date: 07/13/93  5:20p
Subj: Re: Pioneer 6 disk changer              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On Sun 11-Jul-1993  3:44p, Troy Johnson wrote:
TJ> I have another Pioneer six disk changer for sale, It is brand new used
TJ> about a week for testing..I have the box and original sales ticket..

TJ> I am asking 800.00 o.b.o.

TJ> Don't get crazy on the offer, I don't need to sell it that bad

TJ> VOICE 702 459 8862
TJ> Troy

TJ> --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0109]
TJ>  * Origin: Real Pro BBS Home of the Pioneer CD-Rom Changer (1:209/249)

I'll give ya 600.00 for it since i can get a new one for 750.00. Well let me
know either way.

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From: ROBERT ANDRES                          Number: 2059
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/15/93  1:39a
Subj: CD-Rom Discs 4sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following applications (on CD-Rom disc) for sale:

Windows 3.1 (includes 195 page manual)--------------------$45.00
Software Toolworks Encyclopedia---------------------------$45.00

In addition, I have the following CD-Rom utilities/games on disc:

U.S. Atlas 1.5 with Automap-------------------------------$29.00
Space Quest IV--------------------------------------------$27.00
King's Quest V--------------------------------------------$25.00
Shareware Overload (games, utilities etc)-----------------$19.00
Wrath of The Demon----(arcade game)-----------------------$19.00
Phoenix 3.0 shareware disc (lots games, utilities)--------$19.00

Add $2.00 for shipping.  Drop me a e-mail here or give me a
call at 202-574-8911.

Robert Andres

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 2060
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/15/93  9:12a
Subj: PC CDs - Magazine Subscri               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I want Night Owl's 9.0 !!!  Will you do COD ??
 > If so will you match a ligitamate competitor's price of $29 ???
 > If
 > so  please  ssend one to:
 >                                J.P. Ladner
 >                                P.O. Box 236
 >                                Scottsville, VA 24590

 > Please let me know when shipped including if you'll take a check
 > (and if
 > so who to make it out to) I will also pay COD charges..

Best I can do is $34 + $4 shipping. I will take checks, but won't ship until it
clears. COD requires $4.50 additional. Let me know.

Chris

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From: JOE BURKE                              Number: 2061
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/12/93  5:02a
Subj: HOTTEST CD AROUND                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>        Here it is, one of the most talked about CD's on the
BO> Market!
BO>                           SOFTWARE VAULT II
BO>    Over 640 Megs of Shareware Programs and ALL of them dated
BO> '93'
BO>    There are NO DUPLICATIONS on this CD and only a 1% Dup rate

True it's a pretty good CD but not quite what I had read about. No exact dupes
but alot of duplicate programs that have two or so releases of the same
program. From what I find it's only about 560 megs or so not actually 640,
plus buyer be aware that if you run a bbs that uses dorinfo.def for a drop
file the supplied CD door won't work for you.


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2062
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/15/93  6:44p
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM Drives                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 11 Jul 93  10:11:18, I heard Michael Konor shout to All:

MK> 
MK> 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Michael,

  I am going to probly send you the Money next week for four CD-Rom's...  
Also, Can you get Mitsumi Drives ??  If so, I am wanting to buy a few of them,
and maybe about 10 or so more Toshiba's ??  Interested in the Business ??


              .....|<evin

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2063
  To: JASON BURKHART                           Date: 07/16/93  1:38a
Subj: Re: Texel                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Anybody got a Texel CD-ROM with 265ms with cables and 16 bit
>>    interface???? Must beat $499.00. Thanx


Sure, we carry both the internal at $379. and the external for $479.

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be glad
to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 2064
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/15/93  1:34a
Subj: how about magazine rack?                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

i have been looking for that at a decent price...

\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2065
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/16/93 11:50a
Subj: Toshiba CDROMs                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin SCSI,
  300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,
  64k buffer.  

205-837-5053 




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From: ROBBIE WILKES                          Number: 2066
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/16/93  3:43p
Subj: Lost address on Digital D               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello all,

Am looking for the fellow that I agreed to purchase the Digital Dreams CD
from.  I have been awaiting my new set of checks, and can't find your
number or address.

Please echo back with your address and phone number so I can get this
check sent out.  Of course, if you no longer have the CD, that's
perfectly understandable, and I apologize for not getting in touch with
you sooner.

Take care,

Robbie Wilkes
(912) 471-8381 after 6:00pm EST

... CP [IR] * Putt knot yore trussed inn spell chequers


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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 2067
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/15/93  8:21a
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MW>Howdy, just got a CD-ROM and I like to know more about Night Owl ?
MW>I run a BBS and I am looking for CD's to put online.

 MS> Night Owl 9 is a 670mb CD with all 1993 file dates, and files grouped
 MS> into 60 file areas.  Very little to no duplication to previous Night
 MS> Owl releases, and perfect for online use with built-in file listings.
 MS> For BBS use, I'd rate Night Owl 9, Pier2, and Software Vault 2 as the
 MS> best I've seen.  Pricing:  Night Owl 9 $37, Pier2 $37, and Software
I would like to order the owl-9 how I do that?...I like to save the cod's and I
don't have a credit card?


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From: TECHNICAL BRIEF                        Number: 2068
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 07/13/93  8:52p
Subj: Re: Starvector                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Jim Lambert <=-

 JL>Mike Shannon of StarVector is a fine businessman.  He offers prices that
 JL>are very hard for me to beat most of the time.  I have even ordered some
 JL>discs from him when a customer needed something that my suppliers didn't
 JL>carry. He was polite and delivery was prompt.

This is the direct number to the manufacturer of all the CD'S you will ever
need. CD's for like $15 bucks and $20 bucks.

		LASER RESOURCES
		1-800-535-2737
 
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From: KEITH SHEEHAN                          Number: 2069
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/10/93  9:30p
Subj: MS BOOKSHELF '93 MPC                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does any CD Distributer that advertises thier products on this echo have the
1993 edition of the Microsoft Bookshelf (MPC Version) for less than $129 that
I've seen it for in such places as Elek-Tek & Comp USA. I was intereted in
purchasing this disk but I don't want to spend on $129 on an electronic version
of some books I already have! I can justify looking up things in the books for
that price.
ÿû

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From: CARL GINSBERG                          Number: 2070
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  4:39p
Subj: TRADE ?                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone want to trade a internal
cd rom that is pas 16 compatible for a 386/16
with 5 meg of memory 42mb hard drive vga card
and so on. 
If so Call me at 708-231-0882 
or leave a message.
Thanks,
Carl...
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From: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                       Number: 2071
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/15/93  6:22p
Subj: Night Owls 9.0                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello J.p.!

In a message to All <07/13/93> J.p. Ladner wrote:

JL> I need Night Owls 9.0 ASAP!!!

JL> Please send all bids and info (condition, price, warranty, ect.) to me
JL> via this system or call my bbs directly at (804) 286-4685


JL>            ***  **  **  **  **  **  ***  **  **  **  **  **  ***
JL>        .   *****************************************************
JL>             ***************************************************
JL> *      .    *********                               *********
JL>               *******       The Ignoreland BBS        *******          *
JL>     .    .    *******                                 *******   *
JL>               *******     Over 30 Message Bases !     *******   * *   *
JL>      *       *******             Doors !             *******   *       *
JL>  *           *******        Modest File Bases        *******  *
JL>               *******            Netmail !            *******   *     *
JL>  *   *    *   *******   Friendly, Available Sysop !   *******  *
JL>               *******        More to come  !!!!       *******        *
JL>     *         *******                                 *******     .
JL>  *        *   *******   Running VBBS 6.0 & USR HST/DS *******
JL> **  **  **  *********  1200-14.4 24/7 365 days a year *********  **  **
JL> ********************** Call  (804) 286-4685   Today!
JL> *************************************************************************
JL> ***********************************************A User Friendly, Oriented
JL> System!******************************************************804-286-4685
JL> HST/DS*******************************************************************
JL> *************************************
JL> --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta
JL>  * Origin: COMA BBS (804) 971-2498 in Charlottesville, VA (1:2618/102)

I'll sell you mine for $10 and $0.50 per mile, I can leave
tomorrow, is that fast enough?
...Jeff...

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From: JOHN BRODERICK                         Number: 2072
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/16/93 11:44a
Subj: Re: Old 600ms CD-ROM driv               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Kevin Pausche to Chris Kuefler <=-

 CK>  CL> Does anybody have some old 600ms drives? Maybe older??
 CK>  CL> I am looking for the cheapest you can give me.. maybe
 CK>  CL> $175.00 Canadian (With controler card!!) or without
 CK>
 CK> Hey! I live in Canada, so this should be an almost done deal, I have 2
 CK> mitsumi's for sale, controller cards for both, I will take $375 for both o
 CK> them or $190obo individualy.
 CK>

        Hey if they're external I'll make an offer on one.



        THANKS
        Satalite man


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From: DAN HATTERICK                          Number: 2073
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/15/93 12:12a
Subj: CAN U READ THIS?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike,I can read your post fine.No wrapping here.Looks good. -Dan

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From: DON NELSON                             Number: 2074
  To: PEYTON NORMAN                            Date: 07/16/93  4:57a
Subj: Cd Rom discs                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* On 07-11-93 in a message to All, Peyton Norman said:
PN> I carry over 400 titles in stock, 40 XXX titles and 10 Full
PN> If you are looking for CD~s just call
PN>
PN> 
PN>         CD~S and More
PN>          13526 Canal Dr
PN>         Perdido Key, FL 32507
PN>         1-904-492-7483

Do you have a catalog?  If so, please send on to:

Micro Bits BBS
PO Box 4096
Highlands Ranch, CO 80126

Please include the catalog with adult materials listed.

Thanks,

.dn 
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2075
  To: JASON BUCHANON                           Date: 07/15/93  9:09p
Subj: Night Owls 9                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JB> Do you have the Nightowls #9 in stock?  What does the owl
JB> look like on the cover of this one?  seems the maker of
JB> Nightowls changes the owl  every new relese.

JB> --- QuickBBS 2.80 (Gamma-2)
JB>  * Origin: The CrossRoads BBS, <THE Source For Programmers!>
JB> (1:344/79)
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2076
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/16/93  6:52a
Subj: So Much Shareware 3 $29                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

So Much Shareware $29. Plus shipping.
 
Payment: Visa/MC/Discover/AMEX
 
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
1-206-473-1634 or 1-800-277-5179 FAX 

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2077
  To: JD BROWN                                 Date: 07/16/93  6:57a
Subj: Re: Walnut Creek CD                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Anyone have the new Walnut Creek OS/2 CDROM, June 1993, available?
> I would rather buy from a dealer, (keep you in business) than direct.
We have it in stock. If you like to order, please call 1-800-373-0628. TTYL
 
GroupWare 

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2078
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/16/93  7:07a
Subj: Re: nightowl 9                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> business.  They're here to get a fair deal on quality discs... not sit
> around groping the one-eyed trouser trout (which must be what goes on at
> your store, now that your wife threw your ass out).  ;-)
Dear Dave,
I wish you would talk with more respect about a place where fed you when you
were in most need and paid your bills. This echo is CD-ROM business related and
I don't think it is very nice for you to mention anything about my personal
life. I hope you can understand what I meant!..

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From: JOE STEVENS                            Number: 2079
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/16/93  4:48p
Subj: CD ROM...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Bubba Therrien to Joe Stevens dated 07-14-93 ***
> hi joe.
> I have sevaral intenal mitsumi's and found that they are very reliable.
> For the price tag of $175.00 complete, you can't beat it....

Thanks... do you use them for a BBS or for personal use?
I need a good BBS CD Rom.

Joe Stevens

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From: GARY SHADE                             Number: 2080
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/15/93 10:35p
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>TO ALL READERS . . . The following is a section of my ad.  Please
MS>reply back as to whether or not it is legible:

Mike your copy was readable. I got your catalog by the way. We'll be
talking.
Gary



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From: GARY SHADE                             Number: 2081
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/15/93 10:40p
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>I'm interested in this drive but I'm leary of a 150ms drive and
JL>software
JL>for only $200 ???

Sorry to jump in - but the Mitsumi is 300 ms access time, but being MPC
compliant (as most drives are) yields a 150 kb transfer rate. Perhaps
that's where the 150 ms came from. The older Mitsumi (which I own) was
500-600ms access time, but still yields the MPC spec'd 150 Kb/S transfer
rate. They sell for $189.00 new. So a $200.00 price tag for the drive and
some software (like maybe three CDs) is not out of line.
Gary




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From: GARY SHADE                             Number: 2082
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/15/93 10:47p
Subj: CD Catalogs                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

OK folks send me your junk mail. I'm interested in receiving your CD
catalogs (you distys. Also if you would be interested in my distributing
your products via a credit card door on my BBSes, I woul dbe interested to
hear about your distribution discounts, terms, price protections (if any)
and return privileges. Send your info to:

Gary Shade
10120A W. 76th Street
Eden Prairie MN 55344

That's my work address. I plan to have Shade's Landing on line later this
fall after the remodeling, electrical and power conditioning has been
installed. So let me hear from you ASAP! Looking forward to doing business
with you all.
GS




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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 2083
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/15/93  1:57p
Subj: Re: CAN U READ THIS?                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

 MS> ALL READERS:  Please let me know if you can read this OK.  Thanks

I'm not all readers, but I can read this ok.


... My CD Rom is slower than your CD Rom!
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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2084
  To: EDWARD CROUSER                           Date: 07/16/93  2:02a
Subj: SHERLOCK HOLMES                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

13 Jul 93 19:59, Edward Crouser wrote to Eric Bravick:

 -=>> Quoting Eric Bravick to Sam Figueroa <=-
 EB>> It needs a 350 ms or better to look and sound smooth.

 EC>         I have a demo of it that keeps crashing. My CDROM drive is
 EC>  800ms and I thought that was probably the cause.

If you mean Consulting Detective #1, I ran it fine on an 800ms Hitachi
(CDR2500).  There was a one second hesitation for every 20-30 seconds of
full-motion color video, but it worked.  I was running the real disk, not a
demo, so that may account for some difference.

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From: HENRY ARIAS                            Number: 2085
  To: STEVE PHILLIPS                           Date: 07/16/93  5:47a
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

SP>One last question - are the graphics 640x480? I'd be rather disappoint
SP>if most of the pictures were only 320x200, etc. If they are, and you s
SP>have the disk, I'll offer $25 for it. Sounds interesting.
        They come in various resolutions, like I mentioned it is 
predominantly Windows based, but will run from DOS with lots of work. I 
have found that a few are in the 320x200 class but most are close to 
640x480 or 640x400 all in 256 colors and no greyscale stuff... 
I wound entertain $25.00 for it and about $3.00 bucks to ship the 
thing.... Let me know .... Later <Henry>

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From: EARL BONSER                            Number: 2086
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/16/93  4:35p
Subj: CD ROM SPEED VS. BBS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> DH> Unless your BBS software copies the DH> files to the hard drive before
-> they download which DH> mine does.


-> What are you using? I would like to get a hold of something like this...
for
-> Maximus if possible!

It's built into PCBoard release 15.  Saves a lot of wear and tear on my CD's
and the Lan!
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From: BOB CENTERBAR                          Number: 2087
  To: DAVID MCSPADDEN                          Date: 07/16/93  4:25p
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 07-15-93 DAVID MCSPADDEN wrote to BOB CENTERBAR... 
 
 DM>  Hi Bob, 
 DM>  Sounds like Digital Dreams will fit the bill for you. It is an R 
 DM> rated 
 DM> cd from Ero Tek. Claims original scans so that should take care of 
 DM> your 
 DM> Court worries.... CD-WORLD price $29.00. Call me at 803-481-2276 to 
 DM> place an order. 
 
Thanks for the reply....will let ya know.
 
Later...Bob 
 
 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50  "Fdisk = More Free Disk Space (Y/N)?" 
* LAKOTA v1.0

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2088
  To: LEN BUSSEY                               Date: 07/15/93  9:38p
Subj: adult Cd                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LB>Where can I find the Storm CD's.  Anybody out there want to sell any?

Len,

We have all three in stock.  Prices:   Storm 1 $25, Storm 2 $28,
Storm 3 $29.  Let me know if you're interested.  We can ship same day.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2089
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/15/93  9:38p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me off?

You keep saying that.  Out of curiosity, what would the actual monetary
damages be in this case?  Can you give us an accurate damage assessment
for this "ripoff", expressed in whole dollars?  I think we'd all like
to know if your prolonged character assassination is actually
warranted in relation to your out-of-pocket expenses.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2090
  To: JOHN ROBINSON                            Date: 07/15/93  9:38p
Subj: CAN U READ THIS?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>MS>  ALL READERS:  Please let me know if you can read this OK.  Thanks
JR>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^
JR>You were kidding of course.??? ( I hope )

No, I was serious.  I'd like to know if my ads are line-wrapping or
not.  Did it look OK?

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2091
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/15/93  9:38p
Subj: MORE CD'S ON SALE!!!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

___________________________________________________________________________

                   STARVECTOR CD-ROM BLOWOUT SPECIALS!
___________________________________________________________________________

      - These are special prices, and are for a limited time only.
      - Sale limited to stock on hand, so hurry!

                              GENERAL TITLES
                              --------------
Pier 2..............$35   Phoenix 3.0.........$12   Night Owl 7.........$15
Phethean's #1.......$12   CD Grab Bag Disc....$15   CD Winbox...........$25
Bibles & Religion...$10   Colossal Cookbook...$10   Our Solar System....$10
Shareware Overload..$10   Windows 93..........$21   SoundWAV............$24
Deathstar Arcade....$10   Shareware 93........$18   House of Games......$20
Ham Radio 3.0.......$10   Sound Sensations....$10   Windoware...........$10
Complete Bookshop...$10   Technotools.........$10   Too Many Typefonts..$10
Fontmaster 1........$15   Clipart Goliath.....$10   Dictionaries/Lang...$10
U.S. Atlas MPC......$15   Otherware I.........$19   Powerpak Gold 3.0...$19

                       ADULT TITLES (Must state 21+)
                       -----------------------------
My First Time.......$39   PC-PIX 2............$28   Moving Fantasies....$25
Visual Fantasies....$25   Women of Venus......$25   Priv Collection 1...$29
Storm 1.............$24   Storm 2.............$25   Storm 3.............$26
(I also have the first CD from the "My First Time" video 2-Pak).........$20

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2092
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/15/93  9:38p
Subj: NEW CD ARRIVALS!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

___________________________________________________________________________

                    BRAND NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR!
___________________________________________________________________________

Soundware Coll'ctn..$27   1001 Utilities......$15   QRZ Ham Radio.......$19
Hobbes OS/2 1993....$16   Hamware 1993........$28   Game Arena..........$15
Eagle Eye Shareware.$25   Up All Night........$20   Precision Mapping...$88
Fantazia Fonts......$29   Business Assistant..$15   Learning Adventure..$15
M/M Computer Tutor..$30   Sound F/X Library...$29   Cookbook Heaven.....$29
Int's Graphics Libr.$33   Night Owl 9.........$37   The Holy Bible......$24

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2093
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/15/93  9:38p
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 280+
CD-ROM titles that we stock, please feel free to call our new BBS at
509-457-0206.  The system is using a U.S.R. Sportster V.32bis, so you
should have no problem logging on at any speed between 300bps and
14,400bps.

All callers may download our catalog on the first call, and to avoid the
new user questionnaire, log on as:  First name:  CD
                                    Last name:   ROM
                                    Password:    USER

Once in, you can go the the <F>ile section from the main menu and
download "STARCAT.ZIP".  This contains our latest prices, newest titles,
and CD descriptions.

While online, you may want to download one or more of the CD-ROM file
listings that are available.

The Starvector BBS is online, and waiting to serve you!  Look for
continuous updates and improvements in the near future, with more CD
file listings, new online doors, and more!

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From: JOHN CALLICRATE                        Number: 2094
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/15/93 12:33p
Subj: COREL SCSI                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm going to be selling COREL SCSI soon.  It will have been opened, but
not registered.  I will be reviewing it for a client, and I won't need
it after that.  Anybody interested?  I'll probably sell it for about
$55.


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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 2095
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/15/93  9:43p
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Howdy Mike,

When did you send off my order?  It'll be two weeks tomorrow, still
haven't seen or heard of it...

I know, I know, probably just screwed up my discount (grin).

          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: RUSSELL NABER                          Number: 2096
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/16/93  8:57p
Subj: Adaptec 1742b and CD Players            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!


Thanks to all who responded to my first posts.

But I am trying to find out about compatibility problems before I jump on a
particular model of CD player.

Here's what I want to do:

I run a BBS and would like to option to initially install one CD ROM drive, but
have the option to add more.  I want the best transfer speed for 14,400 baud
connects without slowdowns.  I want it to work smoothly with the adaptec 1742b
controller SCSI card, either internal or external to it.  Seamless integration
with Maximus files.bbs files.

Also the ability to access these CD ROMs from another desqview window on my
own.


Has anybody had experience with this controller with a certain brand  of CD ROM
player in multiple?

Or: the adaptec 1742b with the pioneer 6 disk changer unit?



Russell

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From: JOHN HISCOTT                           Number: 2097
  To: JOE STEVENS                              Date: 07/16/93  9:20a
Subj: CD ROM...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to All, Joe Stevens Scribbled:

 > I am interested in Purchasing a CD ROM drive.  I have looked
 > at several models... the one whick is the least expensive and
 > still offers reasonable features is a mitsumi brand.  Does

Mitsumi's Great, other then the slow speed.. Which really isnt that bad.. it is
FIne.. At least mine is.. and I like it and am Thinking of buying another one
in a couple weeks..

Well Mine had a 16 Bit Card.. Dunno about the rest though...

John

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 2098
  To: KEVIN PAUSCHE                            Date: 07/16/93  8:56a
Subj: Re: Old 600ms CD-ROM drives             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 KP> $190 for a used 600 ms?  New mitsumis can be purchased 
 KP> for about $300 here..  
 KP> And they're 350 ms and brand new

Well go ahead and buy one! The thing about the 350ms ones as that they are not
really that speed. they SAY 350ms, but that is only in one seek. When you buy a
cd-rom you should look for a 350ms multiple-pass seek. IE: avereage time after
200 seeks is 350ms and that would be a pretty fast cd-rom. Umm they were
advertized a 350ms (I just bought them) but I dont say that they are becasue in
fact, none of them really are.

So if you want, I have 2- 350ms (although they really are not) drives for
sale,$ 200 each. You have my address. (THIS IS CANANDIEN PRICES FOR ALL OF YOU
AMEREICAN READING THIS)

CJK

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 2099
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 07/16/93  8:57a
Subj: Mitsumi's for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DK> Just thought I'd ket you know that you can purchase the LU005 drivers for
 DK> $187...

And if you convert that to Canadien you are looking at a price of $243.1

CJK

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From: DANIEL BENTLEY                         Number: 2100
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/16/93  6:35p
Subj: and...                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I forgot to to mention in my last message that I'm only interested in
catalogs from the U.S.  Also, I'm not interested in adult oriented
material.
                                             Daniel Bentley
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From: JOE BURKE                              Number: 2101
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 07/16/93  5:20a
Subj: So Much Shareware 3 Revie               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Tim can you tell me if the door that comes with it workes with
dorinfo*.def/exitinfo ? Also does it run any Cd or just So Much Shareware 3?
Thanks for any info. I'm desperate for a cd door to do this.


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From: JOE BURKE                              Number: 2102
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/16/93  5:25a
Subj: Any one want to trade?                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have The Original Shareware 1992 CD that I would like to trade for any adult
CD.


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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 2103
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 07/16/93  6:08p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DR> Hello Michael!
 DR> Terry is a VERY respected man in this echo, and it'll take a lot more
 JR>   than the likes of you to change that.
 DR> Terry is honest enough that I send discs to him BEFORE being paid.
 MS> I have dealt with him several times, both from the
 JR>   sending AND receiving end, and I've found him to be very polite and
 JR>   honest in his dealings with me.
 JR> And this is a public warning for you to stop whining. tim moderator
 DR> Welcome to my twit filter, sport.
 JR> /JIM/
 JR> --- FidoPCB v1.3 [NR]
 JR> * Origin: The GIFfer in Tampa, FL USA (813)969-1089 USR 16.8DS
 JR> (1:377/50)

So is your capturing of bits and pieces of four out of say 400 people that read
this echo, expressing their devotion to a thief supposed to mean ANYTHING to
me.  Terry Woodward tried to steal a CD-Rom from me, I posted about it, finis. 
If you love Terry so much, fine, hang with him. That still does not change the
fact that he is a liar, a fraud, and a thief, now does it?

 * MKRead v1.01 * *Four hours* to bury a cat?  Yeah, it wouldnt keep still.


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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 2104
  To: WARREN DANIO                             Date: 07/16/93  6:13p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MB > By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me
 MB > off?
 WD>         Hey KID, why don,t you go in the closet and play
 WD>        with your flashlight. More damn Whiners!!!!

If you consider a father of three, who is a property manager a kid, you must be
in your nineties by now, eh?  Must explain the grumpiness.

 * MKRead v1.01 * It's the cats' house.  We just pay the mortgage.


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From: BRIAN HURLEY                           Number: 2105
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/16/93  9:17a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>TO ALL READERS . . . The following is a section of my ad.  Please reply
  >back as to whether or not it is legible:


Looked good here..........

Brian

 * OLX 2.2 * Tagline Lotto: ##########<- Scratch here to reveal prize.

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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 2106
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 07/15/93 12:18a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Congratulations to you and Herb on your new home purchase.  Hope you are
getting along well.

As for your inquiry, there are a lot of CD-ROMs with text material on
them--disc preference depends on the subject material you're after.  Some discs
that I use are "Computer Select," a CD-ROM disc of one full year of the largest
number of computer magazines available on disc (i.e., PC World, PC Mag, etc.)
and "World Library," a CD-ROM disc of about a thousand publications including
all Shakespear's writings, all Sherlock Holmes stories, and several other
written works.  Several other companies have started producing their own discs
of literary works like Nimbus and the Bureau of Electronic Publishing.  The
Washington Times newspaper is available on CD-ROM for a reasonable price (about
$150) but other major newspapers are still only available on CD-ROM from some
of the large magazine companies for a few thousand dollars.  Newsweek on
CD-ROM, with video and sound clips will be released shortly and several other
new releases will be geared towards literary type materials with a multimedia
twist.  The discs mentioned above should be available from the larger CD-ROM
delaers in this echo.
Good luck and happy ROMing.


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From: PHILIP RUSSELL                         Number: 2107
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/01/93  8:37p
Subj: Re: cd price list 2/2                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in a number of titles - particularly the educational 
ones. What are your airmail fees on 20+ CDs to R.S.A. ? How long does 
it take for post to get here ? What method of payment should I use ?
Where in the States are you, in case I have a friend go across soon ?

Regards,
Philip


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From: PHILIP RUSSELL                         Number: 2108
  To: NILL TOULME                              Date: 07/01/93  8:47p
Subj: Re: cdrom access prices 6               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 NT> ===  D-ROM ACCESS PRICE LIST FOR JUNE - REFERENCE AND BUSINESS
 NT> =======================================================================
Where is it ?? I thought it would follow ? Maybe it got lost in the 
satellite connexion.
Philip

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 2109
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93  4:53a
Subj: Small problem                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike,
The Precision Mapping disk will only scan and find zip codes. All other search
attempts (city, street, area code) returns a no match found message. It won't
even find New York or Chicago! All other functions work perfectly. Is this a
bad disk or am I doing something wrong?
Please call me at 1-800-428-2835

Thanks,
 

Michael



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From: JASON PAUL                             Number: 2110
  To: TOM CAMPBELL                             Date: 07/16/93  2:21p
Subj: Looking for a drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TC>    Adaptec 1542 SCSI Card

I see that you want to trade this away.  How much do you want to sell it for? 
Do you have all of the drivers for it?  Do you have the Corel SCSI drivers? 
Thanks.  If you would like to call me my number is
319-289-3977.  Thanks!

-=-
 * SLMR 2.1a * I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it?

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 2111
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/16/93 11:23p
Subj: Toshiba CDROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

michael, my drive arrived yesterday.  took about 15 mins to install and it
works just fine.  thanks again. runs like a champ under os/2.

\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 2112
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/16/93 11:30p
Subj: argh!  your list                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

disappeared before i saved it to disk.  would you please netmail it to me, or
repost your phone number, etc?  thanks... there were some CDs i wanted to
order!

\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2
1:205/31 in fido...
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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2113
  To: DAVID MCSPADDEN                          Date: 07/16/93  8:20a
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DM> Sounds like Digital Dreams will fit the bill for you. It is an R rated
DM>cd from Ero Tek. Claims original scans so that should take care of your

Dave, for what it's worth, DD is NOT original scans. Almost all are from
commercial magazines. Many show moire patterns that come only from
scanning magazines. Many are duplicates of scans from other boards, like
Garlique and Nitelog. It isn't a bad disk but I don't think it would
hold up in court.

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * For a photographer, life is just a bed of poses.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2114
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93  8:35a
Subj: CAN U READ THIS?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> 1001 Utilities (New!).........15.00    Microsoft Works            
 MS> MPC...........58.00                                               
 MS> 7th Guest.....................54.00    MIDI Music                 
 MS> Shop...............31.00                                          
 MS> Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    Mixed Up Mother            
 MS> Goose.........24.50                                               
 MS> Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Monarch                    
 MS> Notes.................64.00                                       
                                                                       
  
This is what it looked like on my screen. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2115
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/17/93 11:24a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> MS>  CD Winbox (New!)..............29.00    PC                    
 MS> MS> Gameroom...................28.00                              
 MS>                                                                   
 MS> Mike,                                                             
 MS> Looked good to me until I attempted to "Quote" the sample and as  
 MS> see...                                                            
 MS> Cutting the spaces down between list by about 4 should do it.     
 MS>                                                                   
                                                                       
  
This makes me think that MegaMail (my reader de jour) is screwing your 
posts up when it displays them, Mike. I searched throught the congif 
process but couldn't find a place where I could change its display 
margins so I'm stuck until my fav FIDO BBS switches over to QWK format. 
They're supposed to do that any day now (yeah, right). After that I can 
use SLMR or OLX. The other FIDS BBS I use has only Blue Wave implemented 
and I get the same results there with the same lack of anything to do 
about it on my end. Since no one else is having a problem with your 
formatting, I'll shut up and live with it. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2116
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/17/93 11:43a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: 07/18/93  7:10a                       Private: No 

 TH> moderator                                                         
                                                                       
  
Boy, I'm glad you've got this job and not me! Hang in there.... 
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2117
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/17/93  1:22p
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD Winbox.....28.50 * Software Vault 2....23.95 * Global Explorer..93.50
Games 1993....24.50 * Shareware Studio 2..23.95 * Bible Library....28.95
Windows 1993..27.50 * Up All Night........19.95 * NG/SD Mammals....26.50
Mayo Clinic...28.50 * Aminet (Amiga)......16.95 * Busty Babes......29.95
Nightowl v9...28.95 * Reference Library...26.95 * Ecstasy..........29.95
Nightowl v8...26.95 * Readers Library.....28.95 * Nix Pix 2/3/4/5..29.95
Pier 1........27.95 * Clip Art Galore..28.95  We sell Hundreds of Titles
All Chestnut Titles (15 CDS)...13.50 * Many Walnut Creek Titles...16.95
PCJ - Orders - 800-547-7817 *-* Orders\Inquiry - 615-339-0235 (24 Hrs)
Fax 615-479-1047 *-* BBS 615-478-2890 *-* No surcharge for credit cards

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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 2118
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/17/93  2:51p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks, I'll probally be giving the old one a shot.

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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 2119
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/17/93  2:54p
Subj: Busty Babes, before 3.0.                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone got the above?  Not the newer one with a bunch of stuff removed? Also,
I've seen it advertised for $29, any dealers will match that?  If so, leave a
number for me to contact you at, I'd rather a BBS number where I can order
on-line as I've got a seperate data and voice line and my room-mate doesn't
like too many LD calls on the voice line.
Jason

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2120
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 07/17/93  7:46a
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM Drives                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KP> MK> 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00
KP>
KP>   I am going to probly send you the Money next week for four
KP> CD-Rom's...
KP> Also, Can you get Mitsumi Drives ??  If so, I am wanting to buy a
KP> few of them,
KP> and maybe about 10 or so more Toshiba's ??  Interested

I'm interested.  Call me at 205-837-5053


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From: KEVIN ROBBINS                          Number: 2121
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/17/93  1:28p
Subj: CD ROM Titles                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

	I am interested in purchasing a few CD ROM games.  If anyone has 
 a game they want to sell let me know about it here on this echo. 

Kevin Robbins 07/17/93 13:27
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From: BENJAMIN KEEN                          Number: 2122
  To: BOB KELLY                                Date: 07/16/93  7:02p
Subj: HERE WE ARE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BK> TM>BK>SQ>    Cheers BBS in beautiful Cambridge, Ontario, Canada is 
 BK> TM>BK>SQ>    proud to be carrying this echo !!
 BK> 
 BK> TM>BK>And I'm so proud you told us about it...
 BK> 
 BK> TM>And I'm so proud that you're so proud that Cheers told us 
 BK> TM>about it!!!
 BK> 
 BK> My pleasure! Anyone else out there proud about this? 
 
     I'm proud too!! I'm also proud that we have the same initials!!!


 This copy of Freddie 1.2.5 is being evaluated.
                                                 
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From: BENJAMIN KEEN                          Number: 2123
  To: YO ANYBODY                               Date: 07/16/93  7:02p
Subj: Mac SCSI CD - ANY WAY                   Refer: NONE
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I want a CD-ROM Drive! I have a Mac! It needs to be External and Able to 
hook up IN SOME WAY to a SCSI interface. THOSE ARE THE *only* two 
requirements!!! Except for it needs to be cheap! Dealers, hit me with all 
the catalogs U want! Folks, palm off your old stuff on me! Mail me here or 
at
    Benjamin Keen
    1528 Autumn Rd.
    Charleston, WV  25314-2306
    304/343-4447
-----BEN!



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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 2124
  To: KEVIN DEW                                Date: 07/15/93  5:52p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
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KD>        Sound's good, but will it have any *.S3M's *.STM's or *.669's?
KD>I'm in to the "more than 4 channel" music now.. Let me know when it comes ou

Kevin, the Sysop's name is Walk Perko and he is accepting orders now.
In fact, he will not press the CD until he gets 15 more orders.
His BBS is devoted to .midi and other music-related stuff and he is a
very honest guy, so if you are really interest, I can get your his
number and you can place an order w. him.


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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 2125
  To: DAVID MCSPADDEN                          Date: 07/15/93  6:10p
Subj: CD-WORLD 4                              Refer: NONE
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DM>                             CD-WORLD
DM> CD-WORLD                    Price list       For on-line orders call
DM> 2650 Wedgefield RD          July  1993       The BBS at 803-481-7149
DM> Sumter SC 29154                              Voice 803-481-2276
DM>                                              FIDO 1:3647/2


I would like to place an order w/ you for 2 caddies at $4 each.
Is the above address correct? And check paybale to CD-WORLD?


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2126
  To: MICHAEL KANKO                            Date: 07/16/93 11:57a
Subj: Well                                    Refer: NONE
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MK> Well, since the lowest you've come across is $29 then is that a 
MK> valid price for me to purchase it at?

It sure is.  I said I would match all other valid prices and I will.  Just give
us a call and let us know what you are interested in.  Thanks. 
    
                                                Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
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From: HERMAN WIGGINS                         Number: 2127
  To: PATRICK SHEN                             Date: 07/17/93  1:12p
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Patrick!

Check is in the Mail I will take it...Shareware Overload....

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2128
  To: JD BROWN                                 Date: 07/17/93  1:17a
Subj: Walnut Creek CD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JB>Anyone have the new Walnut Creek OS/2 CDROM, June 1993, available?
JB>I would rather buy from a dealer, (keep you in business) than direct.

JD,

We have them in stock as of 7/16/93.  Price is $16.  Give a shout if you
want one.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2129
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/17/93  1:17a
Subj: CAN U READ THIS?                        Refer: NONE
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CK> MS>  ALL READERS:  Please let me know if you can read this OK.  Thanks

CK>Yup!
CK>PS- how long did you say it usually takes for a CD to get to Canada?

Chris,

It varies widely, but ordinarily within a week.  Your order shipped out
on 7/9, so you should be receiving it soon.  Customs can sometimes hold
things up.  BTW, Thanks for the report.   8)

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2130
  To: RED KENNEDY                              Date: 07/17/93  1:17a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
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RK> > back as to whether or not it is legible:
RK> > Please give me your feedback on this also.

RK>It is comming accross in two nice neet columns

Thanks Red.  Probably just Bob picking on me again.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2131
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 07/17/93  1:17a
Subj: .\\                                     Refer: NONE
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MJ> MS> .\\ichellea

MJ>Looks like the .\\ proliferation has begun!  <g>  Thought you'd be
interested
MJ>Best Regards.

MJ>,\\ark

Yeah, I know.  Actually, to be honest, I think I stole it from her!  8)
I've got a good one for "H" people:   ><arold    Oh well, back to the
drawing board.  Back on topic (I hope):  Thanx for the order.  (best I
could do on short notice   8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2132
  To: MIKE JORDAN                              Date: 07/17/93  1:18a
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
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MJ>  Mike, I'm a door author with 5 doors out and a 6th on it's way and I was
MJ>wondering if you would be interested in a trade of registrations for my
doors
MJ>for CDs?  I've already gotten Software Vault 2 (you are right, it's an
MJ>excellent CD) and Winbox (great if you want windows files) but I'd be
MJ>interested in getting Night Owl 9, Pier2 or any other Shareware type CD like
MJ>these.  If you are intersted I'll be glad to send you details on my doors.

I dunno.  Send whatever info you have, and I'll take a looksee.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2133
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/17/93  1:18a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE UPDATE  1/2                Refer: NONE
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 **************************************************************************
 July 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 7/15
 **************************************************************************
                                   1 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........15.00    MIDI Music Shop...............31.00
 7th Guest.....................53.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........24.50
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    Monarch Notes.................64.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 American Business Phonebk 1...18.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...39.00
 American Business Phonebk 2...28.00    Monster Media 93 (New!).......33.00
 Amiga AB20....................16.50    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Mother of All Clipart.........24.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......27.50    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....27.50    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....30.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    National Business Directory...39.00
 Audubon's Birds...............26.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............26.00    National Parks................29.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 5.0.................22.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 6.2.................23.00
 Bible Library.................31.00    Night Owl 7.0.................24.00
 Bibles & Religion.............14.00    Night Owl 8.0.................29.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 9.0 (In stock!).....37.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....15.00    North American Fax Book.......49.00
 Business Master...............20.00    Ocean Digital Imagery.........34.50
 C User's Group Library........31.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...25.00
 California Collection.........17.00    Our Solar System..............14.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....29.50
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-SIG #12....................28.00
 CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC Gameroom...................28.00
 CD Winbox (New!)..............29.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CD Grab Bag Disc..............19.00    Phethean's Shareware #1.......15.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Phoenix 3.0...................15.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........24.00    Pier 1........................29.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Pier 2 (In stock!)............39.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....54.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Clipart Galore................30.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Clipart Goliath...............14.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....24.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........29.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......88.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............14.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........125.00
 Complete Bookshop.............14.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Composer Quest................37.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........34.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency...107.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....77.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....77.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Conan the Cimmerian...........34.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....39.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........29.00    Reader's Library..............31.50
 Crossword Cracker.............24.50    Reference Library.............27.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....37.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...43.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......14.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....28.50
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......25.50
 Desktop Bookshop (New!).......28.50    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...28.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......14.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............34.00    Shareware Online..............28.00
 DTPro.........................28.50    Shareware Overload............14.00
 Eagle Eye Shareware (New!)....25.00    Shareware Studio 1............20.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Studio 2 (New!).....25.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2134
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/17/93  1:18a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE UPDATE  2/2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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                                   2 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Empire Clipart................29.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...25.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......28.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound (New!)..22.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Font Master 1.................19.00    So Much Shareware 2...........29.50
 Font Master 2.................28.00    Software Vault 1..............25.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....27.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..29.00
 Game Arena (New!).............15.00    Sound Sensations..............14.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    Soundware Collection (New!)...27.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    SoundWAV......................29.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Giga Games (New!).............24.00    Space Quest IV................25.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Global Explorer...............94.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Street Atlas USA..............87.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Grolier's Ill. Ency. 2.0......38.00    Super CD 2....................27.00
 Grolier's MM Ency. 5.0........48.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....18.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency. 1.5.......48.00    Super Games For Windows.......18.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...27.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.50
 Hacker Chronicles.............27.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.50
 Ham Radio 3.0.................14.00    Technotools...................14.00
 Hamware 1993 (New!)...........28.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..29.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 House of Games................26.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Illustrated Holy Bible........49.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Too Many Typefonts............14.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Top 2000+ Shareware...........24.00
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Total Baseball................29.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Trump Castle..................33.00
 Jets & Props..................31.50    U.S. & World Atlas............29.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........15.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................27.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 King's Quest V................25.00    Up All Night Shareware (New!).20.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    VGA Spectrum 1................15.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........27.50    VGA Spectrum 2................25.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    Visions of Saturn (New!)......25.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....15.00    Vital Signs...................39.00
 Library of the Future #1......54.50    Wild Places...................24.00
 Lion's Share..................25.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Loom..........................25.00    Windoware.....................14.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........39.00    Windows 1993..................28.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Windows Shareware Gold........37.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Wing Commander II Deluxe......58.00
 Magnum One Shareware..........27.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Magnum Sight & Sound..........29.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......25.00
 Manhole.......................36.50    WizPak........................17.00
 Marketing Master 1992.........19.00    World Atlas MPC...............27.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............29.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mega Clipart (New!)...........29.00    World Traveler (New!).........18.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......58.00    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    World Vision 3-Pak............47.00
 Microsoft Works MPC...........58.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 2135
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/10/93  9:35p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
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In a message of <07 Jul 93  11:31:13>, MICHAEL SELLS (1:390/5.4) writes:
 >I have a copy of 7th Guest that I would like to trade for CD's. If you 
 >have anything you no longer need, and would like to have this fantastic 
 >CD, leave me a message and maybe we can make a deal!
I will offer $40 shipped, or Nix Pix Hot Pix 3 (adult) and $10. 


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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 2136
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/17/93  4:59p
Subj: Summer Spectacular!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                            The MARKetplace!
                             1-800-289-1ROM
                  *** CD-ROM DISK SUMMER SPECIALS ***
                         July 17 - July 24, 1993

AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK.....$19     NIGHT OWL 7.0...................$19
AMINET..........................$17     OTHERWARE.......................$19
ANIMALS.........................$23     OUR SOLAR SYSTEM................$15
CALIFORNIA COLLECTION...........$18     PLAYING WITH LANGUAGE SPANISH...$19
CDWINBOX........................$24     PREMIUM MS-DOS SHAREWARE........$29
CICA WINDOWS....................$15     PREMIUM MS-WIN SHAREWARE........$29
CLIPART GOLIATH.................$15     PUBLISHER'S PARADISE............$29
DESERT STORM-LINE IN THE SAND...$19     RBBS IN A BOX...................$19
DINOSAUR ADVENTURE..............$25     SCI-FI FANTASY..................$19
ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUND...........$15     SHAREWARE EXTRAVAGANZA..........$35
ENCYCLOPEDIA OF CLIPART.........$22     SHAREWARE STUDIO II.............$19
FONTMASTER CD LIBRARY II........$19     SHAREWARE 1993..................$19
GAMES 1993......................$19     SHAREWARE EXPLOSION.............$10
GROLIERS ENCYCLOPEDIA MPC/DOS...$35     SHERLOCK HOLMES CONSULT.DECT....$20
HOUSE OF GAMES..................$19     SIMTEL 20.......................$15
INDIANA JONES-FATE OF ATLANTIS..$46     SO MUCH SHAREWARE II............$19
KINGS QUEST VI..................$46   **SO MUCH SHAREWARE III...........$35
LANGUAGES OF THE WORLD..........$19     SO MUCH SCREENWARE..............$25
MACMILLAN DIC. FOR CHILDREN.....$24     SOFTWARE VAULT II...............$22
MARKETING MASTER 92.............$15     STELLAR 7.......................$19
MAVIS BEACON TEACHES TYPING.....$19     U.S. PRESIDENTS.................$26
MAYO CLINIC.....................$24     ULTIMATE MOD COLLECTION.........$19
MEGA OS/2.......................$14     UP ALL NIGHT....................$21
MEGA CD-ROM #2..................$14     WINDOWS MASTER..................$15

TOSHIBA 3401 INTERNAL DRIVES...$449     TEXEL 3024 INTERNAL DRIVES.....$379
MITSUMI INTERNAL 350ms DRIVES..$199     SOUNDBLASTER PRO DELUXE........$129
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2137
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/18/93  1:03a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
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BT>Double standard there mike?
BT>moderator  this will be the last post about this subject <
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Oh Lord, please let it be TRUE.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2138
  To: PATRICK SHEN                             Date: 07/18/93  1:03a
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PS>Shareware Overload has file list that I believe you can import into your
PS>BBS
PS>file listing.  Most of the file dated 1991-1992.  If you want it, I

Sorry,

This CD has PRIMARILY older shareware from the late 80's, early 90's. I
doubt that there is a single 1992 file on it which is TRULY dated 1992.
(i.e. not the ZIPfile date)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 2139
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93  2:25p
Subj: CAN U READ THIS?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello There Mike!

In a message to John Robinson <07/15/93> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS> JR>MS>  ALL READERS:  Please let me know if you can read this OK.  Thanks
MS> JR>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^
MS> JR>You were kidding of course.??? ( I hope )

MS> No, I was serious.  I'd like to know if my ads are line-wrapping or
MS> not.  Did it look OK?

On my editor it did but then they are all set up different...

John

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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 2140
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93  2:28p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello There Mike!

In a message to Michael Benge <07/15/93> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS> MB>By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me off?

MS> You keep saying that.  Out of curiosity, what would the actual monetary
MS> damages be in this case?  Can you give us an accurate damage assessment
MS> for this "ripoff", expressed in whole dollars?  I think we'd all like
MS> to know if your prolonged character assassination is actually
MS> warranted in relation to your out-of-pocket expenses.

What difference does it make.?? His editor is "stuck in whine mode"
anyway... Maybe that is why they have small claims courts.???

I don't know you from the door knob in the house next door but I suppose i
could say "you ripped me off".. (Gets lots of mail..<g>)

I say, CUT HIS FEED.!!!!

John

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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 2141
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/18/93 10:58a
Subj: .\\                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (17 Jul 93) Mike Shannon wrote to Mark Johnsen...

 MS> MJ> MS> .\\ichellea

 MJ>Looks like the .\\ proliferation has begun!  <g>  Thought you'd be
 MS> MJ>interested Best Regards.
 MS> MJ>,\\ark

 MS> Yeah, I know.  Actually, to be honest, I think I stole it from her!
 MS> .\\ike

 Can anyone play?  Wow this is great!
 ù\\ax

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From: SCOTT HUTCHINSON                       Number: 2142
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/16/93  1:50p
Subj: CD-ROM writer                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a CD-ROM writer.  Please reply to me with 
specifications, price, and capabilities.  I can be reached at:

(303) 530-1178 VOICE
(303) 530-0331 BBS
1:104/127 FIDONET

Thanks,

Scott Hutchinson
 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2143
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/18/93  8:13a
Subj: MORE CD'S ON SALE!!!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> ________________________________________________________________  
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 MS>                   STARVECTOR CD-ROM BLOWOUT SPECIALS!             
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Ah, HA! It *IS* my MegaMail reader!! This same post was not line-wrapped 
under BlueWave but (as you can see) is with MegaMail. Sorry for the 
hassle I put you through, Mike (looking sheepish - shuffling feet (:| 
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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2144
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD'S 1 of 2                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY 
MS>     PURCHASE!! 
 
Mike, what Shareware disc are you giving away for only $6.00?  It 
wouldn't be anything silly like the O'Connor Original Shareware 1992 
would it?  (Smile!)  I would hate to think that someone is still pawning 
those things off..... 
 
                                                Dave Clark 
 
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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2145
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: NEC and Hitachi                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SP>   Does anyone know if you can run two different kinds of CD-ROM 
SP>  drives on the same system?I would like to have a NEC or other fast 
SP>  speed drive for personal use and a Hitachi or other slower drive 
SP>  for a BBS. 
 
Actually, that's quite easy.  You have to load the drivers for both the 
drives in the CONFIG.SYS, and then on the MSCDEX command in the 
Autoexec.bat, you pull a trick like this: 
 
 
c:\TSCSI\MSCDEX /d:TSLCD /d:mscd220 /d:MITSU /m:20 /l:D 
                 ^        ^          ^ 
                 |        |          |--- Mitsumi Internal Driver 
                 |        |--- Sony CDU-531 Driver 
                 |--- SCSI Controller used w/3 Pioneer DRM-600a's 
 
As you can see, not only am I running two drives, I'm actually running 
five drives, of three completely different types here.  No Problem!  :) 
 
                                        Dave Clark 
 
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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2146
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: Which Is Best?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC> All I can add is.....the caddyless drives, at least Mitsumi, don't 
DC> have the problem of sucking in dirt and dust that some of the caddy 
DC> type drives have. 
 
All too true.  The Caddy drives have a real maintenance problem.  I have 
two NEC CDU-83's that have been in the shop twice already for service 
problems... I've never had a Mitsumi or a Pioneer croak on me, though. 
 
                                        Dave Clark 
 
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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2147
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS: $29!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS> O               DIGITAL DREAMS IS HERE . . . . ONLY $29.00! 
 
MS>              * All original scans from the McHenry BBS 
MS>              * No BBS ads or logos 
 
If you are talking about the Digital Dreams from Ero Tek, there is 
nothing from McHenry on it, and there is no apparent connection to that 
BBS.  If you are talking about the apparent knockoff "Digital Dreams the 
McHenry Collection", you should be stating that in your ads, in order to 
prevent any market confusion.  It's bad enough that someone had to clone 
the name, lets not get the issue confused... (smile!) 
 
                                                Dave Clark 
 
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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2148
  To: ROBBIE WILKES                            Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS> Digital Dreams is a very nice adult CD with all original scans, and 
MS> no BBS ads.  Has FILES.BBS for online use, with around 1700 .GIFs, 
 
Robbie, you better make sure which "Digital Dreams" you are getting info 
on.  It appears that Mike is giving you information on the so-called 
"Digital Dreams McHenry Collection"... this is not the product from Ero 
Tek.  The statistics on the disc from Ero Tek are as follows: 
 
]]]     TITLE: Digital Dreams Volume 1 
]]]      SIZE: 632 Megs 
]]]     FILES: 2334 
]]] PUBLISHER: Ero Tek Publishing 
]]]  CATEGORY: Adult\BBS Ready\End User Ready 
 
Digital Dreams is one of the best Adult oriented CD-ROM's to come down 
the pike in a long long time.  This disc is comprised of Nothing but 
original scans, scans that have not appeared on any CD-ROM disc 
previously published, nor have these scans been on any BBS anywhere. 
The images are beautiful nude women, with no men, no action shots, 
and no strange pictures.  Just "Playboy" style images. 
 
Points for SysOps: 
 
The disc is fully BBS ready, and comes complete with file listings for 
PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat, and QBBS.  In addition, a database of the 
file listings is provided, in case you want to generate some other 
form of file listing.  Each file sub-directory has 100 or less images 
or programs in it, making it one of the easier ones to browse through. 
 
There are "catalog" images available for downloading, that allow your 
callers to view, pick and choose the images that they wish to download 
BEFORE they download, saving them (and you!) time. 
 
There is a file section on the disc that has 99 GIF images viewing and 
editing utilities on it.  No longer will you have to search in vain 
trying to find where to direct your callers to go to get some viewers. 
 
All images are originals, meaning that you will not find something on 
this disc that you have already in your files base. 
 
No BBS ads, No Backgrounds, No "mirrored Images".  When your callers 
download from this, they are getting "more babe for the byte!" 
You won't be advertising for other BBS systems when you offer this 
disc. 
 
Points for Individual Users: 
 
This disc has a menu interface that has to be seen to be believed! 
The hard drive installation takes less than 10 seconds, and it only 
takes up 295 bytes (yes, bytes!) on the hard drive.  The user 
interface allows you to look at 40 "thumbnail" images at a time, 
pick the ones that you wish to see and "click" on them with your 
mouse to pull up the full sized images.  I've never seen a simpler 
or cleaner interface on any CD-ROM anywhere!  If you do not have a 
mouse, then instructions on how to operate the interface without one 
is provided on the back. 
 
All images are original.  You will not find these images on any other 
CD-ROM or BBS files base (unless they copied them from this disc!) 
<smile!> 
 
The user interface program will self-configure to your VGA card, without 
any intervention from you. 
 
Negative Points: 
 
The User Interface program requires a SET TEMP statement to work. 
Without a SET TEMP statement in DOS, then the user interface program, 
upon running, will attempt to set up a TEMP directory on the CD-ROM 
disc.  Needless to say, this doesn't work too well!  <smile!>  If you 
already have Windows v3.x installed, then you probably already have a 
Set Temp installed.  However, if you do not have Set Temp in your 
AUTOEXEC.BAT, then you can correct the problem simply by either 
putting the following statement in your AUTOEXEC.BAT or simply typing 
it at the command line: 
 
     SET TEMP=C:\ 
 
This will correct that problem. 
 
You need at least a 512k Video card for the best performance.  However, 
a one megabyte video card will work the best. 
 
Overall Impression: 
 
This is one of the best adult discs that I've seen, period.  The user 
interface makes it excellent for the end user, the BBS support makes it 
simply great for BBS usage, and the quality of the files themselves 
make it worthwhile for any application.  A must have! 
 
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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2149
  To: MICHAEL GIUNTOLI                         Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: Pioneer 6 disc changer                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG>        I want to start a bbs. I have been looking at both 
MG> the Pioneer DRM-600A & DRM-604X changer. As i have read 
MG> the 604X is twice as fast as the 604X. The difference is 
MG> the 604X is 300ms with 612kb transfer rate compared to the 
MG> 600A's 153kb transfer rate. 
MG>        Ok, Its twice as fast. The modem only transfers at 14.4k 
MG> and soon to be 28.8k. That is still faster than 28.8k 
MG>        And it also says you can either use a 8 bit or 16 bit 
MG> controller for either drive. If someone could enlighten me 
MG> on a few things such as. Software compatability, Drivers. 
 
Michael, as someone that runs three of the Pioneer DRM-600a's on their 
BBS, I can fill you in on a few details... (smile!) 
 
The Pioneer DRM-600a is perfectly suited for BBS file server use.  The 
DRM-604x will work, as well, but it's significantly higher price is 
outrageous when you look at what you are getting for the additional 
money.  For BBS file server work, the interface software is more 
critical than the drive speed anyday. 
 
In order to properly use a multichanger unit on a multiline BBS, you 
need software that is capable of: 
 
    [1] Reading the files lists from Magnetic Storage, not Optical 
    [2] When the user goes to download, the software should 
        "Buffer" the download to magnetic. 
    [3] Ideally, a "flag" should be set that informs other nodes 
        that the "Drive is Busy, Please Wait". 
 
I know that SFRom for Spitfire and EZRom for any DOOR.SYS BBS will do 
all of those things.  Other software packages will do that, as well. 
Once you have that in your software, the speed of the drive is 
illrelevant. 
 
If you wish, you can call me at 913-266-5851, and I can discuss the 
matter further with you. 
 
                                            Dave Clark 
 
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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2150
  To: CHARLES HELD                             Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: Cd-rom direct                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CH> initial order without a useable drive.  If anyone from CD-ROM DIRECT 
CH> monitors this echo, and if you think that you're going to ruin my 
CH> credit by making me refuse a COD package you can go STRAIGHT TO 
CH> HELL.  I am calling your Better Business Bureau first thing on 
 
Charles, your credit record cannot be affected by refusing a COD order. 
As someone who has worked in the credit industry for over 10 years, I 
know that one for a fact!  :) 
 
However, it's obvious that you are being treated shoddily.  Nuke 'em 
Dano!  :) 
 
                                            Dave Clark 
 
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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2151
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: Pork-Ware 1 Review                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>  There are NO duplicate file names on the CD, nor exact duplicate 
BJ>  GIF images that could be revealed by an electronic audit of names, 
BJ>  file sizes, and checksums.  Checked against a 47,000+ GIF file 
BJ>  unique name data base, there were 833 "hits" indicating that, on a 
BJ>  file name basis, about 41% of the files are potentially duplicated 
BJ>  on other adult CDs.  The "hit" distribution was as follows: 
 
Bob, have you checked out a title called Pixure Rom III?  For a real 
enlightening experience, grab a copy of that disc, and cross check it 
for duplicates versus the Porkware I title. 
 
                                            Dave Clark 
 
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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2152
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams"              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
Bob, as someone that has reviewed the Digital Dreams product myself, I 
thought that I would toss in my two cents here, as well... <smile!> 
 
BJ>   The included copy of GIFReed is too crippled IMHO, to permit any 
BJ>   real "try before buy" evaluation, not to mention the highly 
BJ>   annoying beeps, messages, warnings, etc. that go along with the 
BJ>   crippled functionality.  More to the point, as implemented by DD's 
 
Bob, Although it can be annoying to be "beeped at" in any way, shape or 
form, I don't think that three screens, only shown on bootup, are any 
cause for alarm.  Once you pass through the initial three screens, there 
is no more nagware, period. 
 
BJ>   crippled functionality.  More to the point, as implemented by DD's 
BJ>   authors, about half of each catalog image is occupied by a large, 
BJ>   rather garish title that adds NO VALUE to the catalog image.  The 
 
That is a function of GifREED, not the authors choice.  I've worked with 
GifREED, and personally prefer it over anything else I've tried.  When 
you make a catalog file, you get to specify only three things... the 
resolution of the resultant file, the number of image rows that can be 
placed in there, and if there is a title screen or not.  You know as 
well as I do that, if there were no instructions on the thumbnail 
portion, that a lot of people wouldn't realize to "click on the small 
image."  Not everyone uses GDS or GifREED... <smile!>  So some 
instruction were, IMHO, in order.  Because of the limitations of the 
catalog process, there can be only one size of header file, nomatter 
what size you try to make it. 
 
BJ>   screen is about 10.8" wide (horizontally, not diagonally).  At 
BJ>   1024x768 resolution, that makes about 95 pixels per usable inch. 
BJ>   Half of a 1024x768 screen spread wall-to-wall between 36 images 
BJ>   gives about 11,000 pixels, about 105 pixels square, per image. 
BJ>   Compare that to the 95 pixels per inch from above, add in some 
BJ>   room for titles, space between images, and gentle reader you'll 
BJ>   see that the DD catalogs images must be and are truly TINY.  Look 
 
BTW, according to GifREED, those catalog images are in 640x480.  They 
could have been made for 1024x768 or 800x600, but they would have been 
prohibitively large.  I know, I've made them for my BBS before, and when 
you turn them on that large, they can take up 500k or more EACH.  Ouch! 
 
BJ>   have to stare at the catalog images for very long.  Still, why the 
BJ>   authors chose to surrender half the screen's real estate to a 
BJ>   useless title is beyond me. 
 
Because without that "useless screen," a lot of people would have been 
in the dark about what to do.  I have to do tech support on CD-ROM's, 
and believe me, there are a lot of people without a clue out there. 
Anything that will make life easier on them is a plus. 
 
BJ>   Again, IMHO, GDS offers far more capability, flexibility, and 
BJ>   usability.  Sysops and end users alike will find a lot to like in 
 
GDS also costs $5.00 PER DISC PRODUCED, according to one Disc publisher 
that I work with.  Can we say ouch?  I don't think that you would want 
to give up that large of a slice of your work to a shareware author, if 
you were producing a title. 
 
Bob, it's obvious that you love GDS, and that's fine.. but counting 
against a disc because it's not using it is hardly fair.  I don't see 
any other Adult Disc using it (if there is one, I've not seen it yet.) 
And the Porkware I disc that you reviewed next certainly doesn't even 
have the slickness of the GifREED interface.  It only has an older 
version of VPIC available, and that doesn't measure up to GifREED for 
ease of use and functionality. 
 
More on the next one... <smile!> 
 
                                                Dave Clark 
 
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From: DAVE KALWISHKY                         Number: 2153
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93  3:47p
Subj: Chestnut cd's...$10! 1/2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>              *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*

MS> 5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,
  >    thesauruses, word-processors, style/syntax/spell checkers, glossaries,
  >    crossword solvers, foreign language tutors . . . on and on!

MS>  ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
  >  any Chestnut purchase!

I'll take this, where do I send a check!

     -=> Dave <=-     Fri  07-16-1993


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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 2154
  To: JOE STEVENS                              Date: 07/18/93  1:57a
Subj: CD ROM...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        JOe asks this question..

> > hi joe.
-> > I have sevaral intenal mitsumi's and found that they are very relia
-> > For the price tag of $175.00 complete, you can't beat it....
->
-> Thanks... do you use them for a BBS or for personal use?
-> I need a good BBS CD Rom.
->
-> Joe Stevens

  sure do joe...  have them on my bbs. they all work just fine....
could be a little faster but I could not afford the faster ones, so they
do just fine for me.....I havent had any problems with the drives at
all, in fact ii just purchased 2 more last month...
bubba
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2155
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/17/93 10:58a
Subj: Cdk = cd-rom kits/bundles               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600 Mastercard &
Visa accepted. Posted on 07/17/93, @ 10:46.

 PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                         PRICE

 3024PAS16  CDK - Texel DM3024 & PAS-16 sound card     557.00
 DM3024BB   CDK - Texel DM3024 int. bus. bundle        665.00
 DM3024MMB2 CDK - Texel DM3024 int. M/M bundle         831.00
 DM3024EB   CDK - Texel DM3024 internal ed. bundle     593.00
 DM3024/CB2 CDK - Texel DM3024 internal home bundle    558.00
 5024PAS16  CDK - Texel DM5024 & PAS-16 sound card     677.00
 5024T348   CDK - Texel DM5024 & T-348 par. SCSI       608.00
 5024T130   CDK - Texel DM5024 Cd-ROM & T-130 SCSI     536.00
 DM5024BB   CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. bus. bundle        747.00
 DM5024EB   CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. ed. bundle         712.00
 DM5024/CB2 CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. home bundle        653.00
 DM5024MMB2 CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. M/M bundle         938.00
 DM3024T130 CDK - Texel int. DM3024 & T130 SCSI        461.00

Prices & spec's subject to change without notice. Best time to call: 7-10 AM &
9-12 PM Mon - Fri, all day Sat & Sun (EASTERN)

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2156
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/18/93 12:07a
Subj: Wish list                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>I need the most recent in shareware and a CD-ROM drive (preferably ne
JL>that is MPC Compliant and be 480ms or faster....

OK, Mitsumi is 350ms.....

Pier 2 is brand new,
Night Owl 9 is too,
Software Vault II,
all three for you,
and this ain't no jive,
your price J.P. is $75
add the Mitsumi drive
for another $175
So, for a mere $250
you get a combo that's nifty!

Pat

BTW, here's regular prices....

 PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                         PRICE

 MITSUMICDD CDD - Mitsumi CD-ROM drive                 189.00
 CDSMONSTER CDS - Monster Disc                          38.00
 MONSMED93I CDS - Monster Media '93, Vol. 1             35.00
 CDSNTOWLV9 CDS - Night Owl shareware CD, Version 9     39.00
 SOFTWAREV2 CDS - Software Vault II                     30.00
 PIERS2     CDS - The Pier Shareware CD-ROM #2          39.00
 UPALLNIGHT CDS - Up All Night                          29.00

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2157
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/18/93 12:21a
Subj: Wish list                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>I need the most recent in shareware and a CD-ROM drive (preferably ne
JL>that is MPC Compliant and be 480ms or faster....

OK, Mitsumi is 350ms.....

Pier 2 is brand new,
Night Owl 9 is too,
Software Vault II,
all three for you,
and this ain't no jive,
your price J.P. is $75
add the Mitsumi drive
for another $175
So, for a mere $250
you get a combo that's nifty!

Pat

BTW, here's regular prices....

 PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                         PRICE

 MITSUMICDD CDD - Mitsumi CD-ROM drive                 189.00
 CDSMONSTER CDS - Monster Disc                          38.00
 MONSMED93I CDS - Monster Media '93, Vol. 1             35.00
 CDSNTOWLV9 CDS - Night Owl shareware CD, Version 9     39.00
 SOFTWAREV2 CDS - Software Vault II                     30.00
 PIERS2     CDS - The Pier Shareware CD-ROM #2          39.00
 UPALLNIGHT CDS - Up All Night                          29.00

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 2158
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 07/18/93  7:41p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Jul 10 21:35>, Ryan Denke of 1:303/5.104 writes:

 RD> In a message of <07 Jul 93  11:31:13>, MICHAEL SELLS (1:390/5.4) 
 RD> writes:
 >I have a copy of 7th Guest that I would like to trade for CD's. If you 
 >have anything you no longer need, and would like to have this fantastic 
 >CD, leave me a message and maybe we can make a deal!
 RD> I will offer $40 shipped, or Nix Pix Hot Pix 3 (adult) and $10. 


Ryan, 
I am not really looking for a adult CD, but, I would ship it to you for $40.00.
If OK with you Call me at 1-504-893-7279 or post here.
Thanks,

Michael Sells
309 East Saint Mary Drive
Covington, LA. 70433

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From: VICKI FLETCHER                         Number: 2159
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93 10:21a
Subj: CHESTNUT CD'S...$10! 2/2                Refer: NONE
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Dear Mike,
  Do you have a catalog or brochure of the CD's you have available?
I sure would like a copy if you do.....
                Vicki Fletcher
                513 21st Avenue Southeast
                Puyallup, Washington  98372
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2160
  To: TECHNICAL BRIEF                          Date: 07/18/93  2:10a
Subj: Re: Starvector                          Refer: NONE
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> JL>discs from him when a customer needed something that my suppliers
> didn't
> JL>carry. He was polite and delivery was prompt.
> This is the direct number to the manufacturer of all the CD'S you will
> ever
> need. CD's for like $15 bucks and $20 bucks.
> LASER RESOURCES
FYI they are not manufacturer but distributor. TTYL 

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 2161
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/18/93  3:40a
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hiya, Mike!
On Jul 15, Mike Shannon spake thusly to All:


 MS> All callers may download our catalog on the first call, and 
 MS> to avoid the new user questionnaire, log on as:  First name:  
 MS> CD                                    Last name:   ROM
 MS>                                     Password:    USER

 MS> Once in, you can go the the <F>ile section from the main 
 MS> menu and download "STARCAT.ZIP".  This contains our latest 
 MS> prices, newest titles, and CD descriptions.

how about making this freqable, mike?  :)  you know how us sysops hate to take
our bbses down.


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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 2162
  To: RUSSELL NABER                            Date: 07/18/93  3:42a
Subj: Adaptec 1742b and CD Players            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hiya, Russell!
On Jul 16, Russell Naber spake thusly to All:

 RN> I run a BBS and would like to option to initially install 
 RN> one CD ROM drive, but have the option to add more.  I want 
 RN> the best transfer speed for 14,400 baud connects without 
 RN> slowdowns.  I want it to work smoothly with the adaptec 
 RN> 1742b controller SCSI card, either internal or external to 
 RN> it.  Seamless integration with Maximus files.bbs files.

 RN> Has anybody had experience with this controller with a 
 RN> certain brand  of CD ROM player in multiple?

i have two computers running os/2 with an adaptec 1542c on one and a 1542b on
the other.  the b is running a toshiba 3201 cd rom drive on my bbs.  its a
refurb drive i just bought from a fella in alabama who sells them on the
CDROM_SALE echo.  its great - works nice and fast and quite reliable. your bbs
software should copy the files to your harddrive before they are dl'ed, making
high speed xfers painless.

on my other machine i have the 1542c and a toshiba 3401 - my first cd rom
drive.  lightning fast, but over twice the cost of the 3201. not something i
wanted to repeat for the bbs.  both my cd drives are internal, but that was
more for space considerations than anything else. i have room for another in
the bbs machine, wont need another in the "play" machine.


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2163
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/18/93 12:09p
Subj: LOW LOW CDROM PRICES!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     ShareWare (** BBS Ready)             Miscellaneous (cont.)
 
AB20 Amiga CD-Rom.............14.95 Clip Art Galore..........**...28.95
America's Premier 1993 Sharw..24.95 Clip Art Goliath..............13.50
Aminet Amiga............**....14.95 Clip Art Heaven...............27.95
C Users Group Library.........29.50 Coates Art Review.............44.95
California Collection...**....16.95 College Handbook (1992).......18.95
CD Powerbox.............**....19.95 Color Magic Clip Art..........28.95
Fred Fish On-Line(Amiga)**....49.95 Colossal Cookbook.............13.50
Garbo MSDOS/MAC Shareware.....14.95 Complete Bookshop.............13.50
Giga Games..............**....28.95 Composer Quest................36.95
Gigabyte Gold...........**....22.50 Compton's Interactive Encylop.99.95
Ham Radio (Shareware).........13.50 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....68.95
Libris Britannica.......**....52.95 Conan.........................33.95
Lion Share..............**....24.95 Consumer Information Disc.....38.95
Magnum Sight & Sound....**....28.95 Crossword Cracker.............23.95
Megarom 1...............**....19.95 Crossword Cracker.............24.45
Megarom 2...............**....23 95 DAC Accounting Bonus Pk v4.4.154.95
Monster Disc (2 Cds-92).**....38.95 DAC Accounting for DOS v4.4...99.95
NightOwl 5.0............**....15.95 DAC Instant Accountng-DOS/WIN.39.95
Nightowl 6.0............**....23.95 DAC Instant Rolodex for WIN3..39.95
Nightowl 7.0............**....23.95 DAC Payroll for DOS v4.4......99.95
Nightowl 8.0............**....26.95 DAC Rolodex Live v2.0.........39.95
Nightowl 8.0/9.0........**....55.95 Danger Hot Stuff 1............18.95
Nightowl 9.0............**....29.00 Danger Hot Stuff 2............24.95
Nightowl Bus. Applications....22.95 DeathStar Arcade Battles......13.50
Original Shareware 1992.**....16.95 Deep Voyage...................34.95
OS/2 Archives (Hobbes)........14.95 Desert Storm..................34.95
PC Sig H & B Collection.......29.95 Desktop Bookshop..............27.95
PC Sig #10..............**....22.95 Dictionaries & Languages......13.50
PC Sig #11..............**....24.95 Dictionary of Living World....99.95
PC Sig #12..............**....24.95 Dinosaur Adventure MPC........33.95
PC Sig #9...............**....17.95 Dinosaurs MPC.................54.95
Phoenix v3.0............**....14.95 Doctors Book of Home Remedies.36.95
Pier Shareware #1.......**....27.95 Dune..........................46.95
Powerpak Gold...........**....22.95 Education Master or Business..19.95
SCI-FI (Pics,Sound).....**....27.95 Elec. Home Libr.(250 books)...36.95
SDN 1...................**....19.95 Encyclopedia of Clip Art......26.95
Shrw Extravaganza(4 cds)**....42.95 Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.50
Shareware 1993..........**....19.95 European Monarchs.............48.95
ShareWare Overload............13.50 Executive Factomatic..........36.95
Shareware Studio #1.....**....20.95 Family Doctor.................28.95
Shareware Studio #2(NEW)**....23.95 Fontmaster #1-18.95....or #2..27.95
Shareware Tiger.........**....24.95 Fonts #1......................27.95
Simtel 20 (Gov't Sharw).**....14.95 Full Bloom....................36.95
So Much Shareware #1....**....19.95 Future Wars...................48.95
SO Much Shareware #2....**....28.95 Game Arena....................13.95
Software Vault #1.......**....22.95 GameMaster (Over 500 Games)...19.45
Software Vault #2.(NEW).**....23.95 Games 1993................**..24.50
Sound Sensations..............13.50 Gifs Galore...................16.45
Source Code (Unix/Dos)........28.95 Global Explorer (Delorme).....93.50
Technotools (Programmers).....13.50 Golden Immortal...............24.95
Top 2000 Shareware............23.50 Gov't Giveaways-Entreprenuers.47.95
Up All Night............**....19.95 Great Cities of World 1 or 2..24.95
Winbox (CD).............**....27.45 Great Wonders of the World....42.95
Window Master.................19.45 Greatest Books Collection.....44.95
Windoware.....................13.50 Grolier Ill. Encyl. v2 (STW)..34.95
Windows 1993............**....27.45 Grolier Ill. Encyl. v5 MPC....47.95
Windows - CICA..........**....14.95 Grolier's Encyl. w/Ref Libr..229.95
X11R5/GNU CDRom...............24.95 Guiness Disc of Records (92)..26.95
                                    Guy Spy.......................43.95
          Miscellaneous             Hacker Chronicles.............26.50
                                    Hospitality Index.............39.95
1001 Utilities................13.95 House of Games................25.95
20th Century Almanac..........59.95 Inter. Business/Economc Atlas.24.45
7th Guest.....................52.95 Island Designs................36.95
Adventures of Willy Beamish...28.95 Jazz, Multimedia History......54.95
Aesops Fables.................29.95 Jets & Props..................31.95
Aircraft Encyclopedia.........35.95 Jokes & Pranks................13.95
Amanda Stories................44.95 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.45
Amer.Bus.Fone Book #1..$17 #2.27.95 Just Grandma & Me.............41.95
Anecdotes.....................26.95 Kathy Smith-Fat Burning Systm.54.95
Animals SD Zoo (MPC or DOS)...26.95 Key Clipmaster Pro............32.95
Arthur's Teacher Trouble......28.95 Key Fonts Pro.................32.95
Audobon Mammals or Birds......25.95 Key Home Designer.............32.95
Barney Bear Goes to School....21.95 Kids Zoo-Baby Animal Adv......36.95
Barney Bear Goes to Space.....21.95 King James Bible..............27.95
Barron's Book Notes...........39.95 Kings Quest 5.................23.95
BattleChess Enhanced..........31.95 Languages of the World........47.95
BattleChess MPC...............29.95 Learning Adventure............13.95
Beauty & the Beast (Win3).....29.95 Legend of Kyrandia............54.95
Bible Library (9 Bibles+).....28.95 Library of the Future 1.......49.95
Bibles & Religion.............13.50 ***********************************
Brittanica Family Choice......32.95 * PCJ - 7/15/93 - A 1 Stop Dealer *
Brittanica Select.............32.95 * We meet all legit / noncloseout *
Business Assistant............13.95 * prices in this echo. No hidden  *
Cameron's Fine Art Catalog....49.95 * charges for credit cards. Call  *
Carmen San Diego World Delux..27.95 *  our BBS for our adult title    *
CD Cad v3.7 with manual.......31.95 *  list and download adult.zip.   *
CD Game Pack 1................18.95 ***********************************
Cd Game Pack 2................26.95    All Lines Operate 24 Hours
ChessMaster 3000 MPC..........26.45   Orders/Inquiry - 615-339-0235
Christmas Carol...............28.95   Orders Only    - 800-547-7817
Cinnemania....................57.95   Fax            - 615-479-1047
Classic Collection (4 Pak)....53.95   BBS (14400)    - 615-479-1047

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2164
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/18/93 12:10p
Subj: LOW LOW CDROM PRICES!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

      Miscellaneous (cont.)              Miscellaneous (cont.)
 
Lifestyles-R & F Cookbook.....37.95 Super Munchers................39.95
Loom..........................24.95 Super/Number Bundle...........39.95
Lord of the Rings.............54.95 Swimwear 1993.............**..28.95
Lovely Ladies.................27.95 Swimwear & More (SVGA)........28.95
MacMillan Dict for Children...32.95 Talking Jungle or Classc.Tale.36.45
Magazine Rack.................22.95 Talking Schoolhouse...........36.45
Manhole.......................35.95 Tempra/Kodak Photo CD Softw...27.50
Mantis........................29.95 The Complete Twain............31.95
Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.95 The Grammy Awards.............36.95
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...27.95 The Holy Bible................31.95
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typng v2.49.95 The Pill Book.................36.95
Mayo Clinic...................28.50 Time Almanac 1990.............16.95
Mega Clip Art.................28.50 Time Almanac 1991.............26.95
Mega Movie Guide..............42.95 TimeTable of Art/Entertainmnt.27.95
Microsoft Bookshelf...........57.50 TimeTable of Business/Politic.27.95
Midi Music Shop...............29.95 TimeTable of History/Science..24.95
Mixed Up Mother Goose.........23.95 Too Many TypeFonts (Laser)....13.50
Monarch Notes.................53.95 ToolWorks Reference Library...26.95
Monkey Island (Secrets of)....24.95 Total Baseball Encyclopedia...26.95
Mother Earth..................27.95 Travel in Europe..............28.95
Mother of All Clipart (23000).23.95 True Crime Stories............36.95
My Advanced Label Designer....42.95 Trump Castle-5 casino games...28.95
My Backup.....................19.95 Ultima I - VI.................35.95
My Label Designer Bundle......42.95 Ultima Underworld 1 & 2.......59.95
National MM Parks Guide.......26.95 USA Today.....................36.95
Nat. Geographic MPC Mammals...26.50 USA Wars-Civil War............36.95
Nautilus Subscription Kit.....28.95 USA Wars-Korea................44.95
North American Fax Book.......46.95 USA Wars-Vietnam..............44.95
North American Indians........46.95 USA Wars-World War II.........44.95
Number Munchers...............28.95 U.S. Atlas MPC................26.95
Officers Bookcase.............46.95 U.S. Atlas / Automap..........28.95
Oregon Trail Dlx Vga..........35.95 U.S. Civics...................44.95
Oregon Trail..................39.95 U.S. History..................27.95
Our House (Family Circus).....42.95 U.S. Presidents...............35.95
Our Solar System(Photos,Data).13.50 U.S./World Atlas..............25.95
PC Gameroom...................27.95 VGA Spectrum #1...............14.95
PC Globe 5.0..................49.95 VGA Spectrum #2...............24.95
PC Sig Games..................23.95 Visions of Saturn.............24.95
Pentaminoes...................34.95 Wild Places or World View.....23.95
Peter Rabbit..................24.95 Wing Commander 2 Deluxe.......57.95
Peter & the Wolf (Win3).......26.45 Wing Commander 2/UUnderWrld...59.95
Pharmicist Guide to Drugs.....26.95 Wing Commander/Secret Missn...34.50
Photos to Remember............34.95 Wing Commander/Ultima 6.......24.95
Pinacotheca MPC...............24.95 Wizard........................19.95
Pixel Garden..................44.95 Women of Venus (Swimsuits)....27.95
Plant Doctor..................37.95 Word Munchers.................28.95
Play w/Lang-Englh/Frenc/Span..49.95 World Atlas MPC...............26.95
Precision Mapping.............83.95 World Atlas...................25.95
Prophone Business 1993........37.95 World Fact Book (CIA).........23.95
Prophone (3 CD Set)...........49.95 World of Flight or Trains.....33.95
Prophone (7 CD set)..........122.95 World Tour (CIA)..............23.95
Publique or Fresh Arte........35.95 World Traveler................13.50
Publish It v2.0 (w/Manual)....24.95 Wrath of the Demon............28.50
Publishers Dream Disc.........37.95
Publishers Paradise...........32.95   Drives/Sound/Software/Speakers
Putt Putt Joins Parade........49.95
P.C. Medic (Fix your PC)......29.50 CD Caddies (Sony Compatible)..4.95
QRZ Ham Radio.................14.95 Chinon 435 Int SCSI + CDs...349.95
Readers Library (2000 works)..28.95 Gravis Ultrasound 16bit.....139.95
Reference Library.............27.45 Koss Headphones..............14.95
Return to the Moon............36.95 Koss Hard Drivers Speakers...32.95
Roger Ebert Movie Companion...42.95 Koss Amplfd Spkrs w/Eqlizer..54.95
Sales Manager's Factomatic....36.95 Labtec Amplified Mini Spkrs..29.95
Schumachers Prague Cookbook...44.95 Labtec Amplifd Stereo Spkrs..44.95
Sci-Fi (Pics/Sound/Files).**..27.95 Mitsumi 350ms w/Int. Kit....195.00
Seals of US Gov't.............44.95 Pioneer 600A (Bare).........819.00
Secret Island Dr. Quandry.....39.95 Pioneer 600A with Kit.......849.00
Secret Weapons of LuftWaffe...25.95 Pioneer 604X (Bare)........1197.00
Secrets-Exec Success Stories..36.95 Pioneer 604X with Kit......1297.00
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...24.95 Sysdos-Parallel port drive..299.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...54.95 Texel DM3024 Int SCSI.......389.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...54.95 Toshiba 3401 Int SCSI.......455.00
Sherlock or Shakespeare.......16.95 Windows 3.1 (3-1/2" Floppy)..39.95
Snap Dragon...................39.95 Windows 3.1 (5-1/4" Floppy)..37.95
Snapdragon....................39.95 Znix Cordless Mouse/Win 3.1..59.95
So Much Screenware (Gifs).**..27.95 Znix Serial Super Mouse......24.95
Softw Jukebox-All Amer Sports.42.95
Sound Effects Library.........24.95 ***********************************
Sound Works (Software)........18.95 * PCJ - 7/15/93 - A 1 Stop Dealer *
SoundWav......................28.95 * We meet all legit / noncloseout *
Space Adventure...............32.95 * prices in this echo. No hidden  *
Space Quest IV................24.95 * charges for credit cards. Call  *
SpaceQuest4/Kings Quest.......34.95 *  our BBS for our adult title    *
Spirit of Excalibur...........38.45 *  list and download adult.zip.   *
Sporting News-Pro Football....36.95 ***********************************
Sports Best on CDRom..........27.95
Star Child....................39.95    All Lines Operate 24 Hours
Stellar 7.....................24.95   Orders/Inquiry - 615-339-0235
Storybook Weaver..............39.95   Orders Only    - 800-547-7817
StoryTime 1 or 2..............24.95   Fax            - 615-479-1047
Street Atlas USA (Windows)....86.50   BBS (14400)    - 615-479-1047

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2165
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/18/93 12:14p
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DR> being hosted in my place of business.  They're here 
 DR> to get a fair deal on quality discs... not sit 
 DR> around groping the one-eyed trouser trout (which 
 DR> must be what goes on at your store, now that your 
 DR> wife threw your ass out).  ;-)
 
Amen brother....

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From: JD BROWN                               Number: 2166
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/18/93 12:36p
Subj: Walnut Creek CD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS> JB>Anyone have the new Walnut Creek OS/2 CDROM, June 1993, available?
MS> JB>I would rather buy from a dealer, (keep you in business) than direct.
MS> 
MS> JD,
MS> 
MS> We have them in stock as of 7/16/93.  Price is $16.  Give a shout
MS> if you want one.

 Durn. Should have waited a bit longer. Could have saved over $ 7.00
by ordering from you. Bet I will ask you next time.

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From: ERICK GROWCOCK                         Number: 2167
  To: TONY MASSEY                              Date: 07/18/93  4:12p
Subj: Sony CD-Rom for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    Sorry. I already have Sherlock Holmes I and II, and i have a CD of sound
samples also. I was really trying to sell the drive itself. The 5 titles i
mentioned came with the drive.

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From: ERICK GROWCOCK                         Number: 2168
  To: DANNY BRIGANCE                           Date: 07/18/93  4:13p
Subj: Sony CD-Rom for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    Well, i am trying to sell the drive itself. Those 5 titles i mentioned came
with the drive.

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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 2169
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/18/93 11:20a
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  
  MS> Once in, you can go the the <F>ile section from the main menu and
  MS> download "STARCAT.ZIP".  This contains our latest prices, newest
  MS> titles, and CD descriptions.
  

Is this file an ASCI file or is it an EXE file?.... I would like to be able to
read via MAC environment
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 2170
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/18/93 11:46a
Subj: Oxford Eng. Dictionary                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for some pricing information on the Oxford English Dictionary in
CD ROM PC and MAC format.  Would any of you Distributors care to quote what you
would sell this item for?  Thanks
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 2171
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/17/93  2:34p
Subj: C/C++ CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its C/C++ CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
987 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: BRIAN KECK                             Number: 2172
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/18/93  1:21a
Subj: Re: nightowl 9                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ismail.....wanted to thank you for the fast service. Ordered my nightowl
on Tuesday and got it in 2 days, not bad from WA to FL...

Thanks again...and thanks for the GREAT prices, it helps alot with
keeping my costs down for my BBS...
Will be ordering again...

Brian


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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2173
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/16/93  4:10p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Ships Nex               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>CM>> When are we gonna see an HFS version of BB's? These ISO vers just
LN>CM>> dont cut it!

LN>Not to be ignorant--But is this HFS for the Mac or Amiga--We ask the pressig
LN>house for a more universal format and they are working on this as we speak s
LN>that 1 disc can serve many a platform.

HFS is Mac format. Any disk cut in ISO9660 is readable on any Mac
running a standard Mac driver. Macs have their own driver, much like
MSCDEX. Any Mac cdrom, from Apple CD-300's to Nec 74-84's have a driver
included with them. In addition, there are generic ISO readers on AOL.

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2174
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/17/93  7:22a
Subj: Libel                                   Refer: NONE
Read: 07/21/93  6:51a                       Private: No 

TH>-> the thread.  Since you are not the moderator, and I was participating
TH>-> echo according to the rules that state I may warn others not to get r
TH>-> by Terry Woodward, your post means nothing to me or the thread about
TH>-> Woodward ripping me off.

Tim,
I'm not going to respond to Benge. I've already added more heat to this
than I should. Just so that we understand, Benge has his original disk
back, which I returned by Fedex. I haven't ripped him off, lied to him,
or defrauded him. I refused to go through with the swap after his
childish outburst. He may believe anything he wants.
My next action will be to see relief under Policy Four, which guarantees
Fido members protection from harassment. I will file a formal compliant
with my RC.

TH>-> By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me off?
TH>p.s.  Look up the word "libel".

Thanks for pointing it out to him. That's my next step.

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Life is like a ...hmmm, well, maybe it's not.


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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 2175
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 07/17/93 10:01a
Subj: PC CDs - Magazine Subscri               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Best I can do is $34 + $4 shipping. I will take checks, but won't
-> ship until it clears. COD requires $4.50 additional. Let me know.
->
-> Chris

I went ahead and ordered the one for $29.  Thank you for your reply tho.

J.P.
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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 2176
  To: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                         Date: 07/17/93 10:02a
Subj: Night Owls 9.0                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Only if you live next door ;)

J.P.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2177
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 07/19/93 11:46a
Subj: Pork-Ware 1 Review                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I tried to get one of the dealer's to send me a copy of the Pixure ROM  CDs for
evaluation (a la Pork-Ware I and Digital Dreams) but no one bit  on my offer. I
won't buy image CDs anymore unless either (a) I have full  return priviledges
after a reasonable "assessment period" (say two weeks  ARO) or (b) I have
reasonable expectations that it is truly "new". With  repsect to (b), only one
or two producers currently have my trust in that  regard. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2178
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 07/19/93 11:54a
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams"              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You make some good points, Dave, including the cost of using GDS that I  wasn't
aware of (not being a CD producer). As for GIFReed itself, I still  don't like
it. It wasn't necessary to use almost 1/2 screen for  redundant titles or
instructions. Increasing the resolution would help  much for images less than
1" square and, as you point out, use of a lot  of space for little/no vlaue
add. Point-and-click is cool, sure, but  without giving the creator of the
catalogs any more flexibility that  GIFReed offers (fixed title sizes, fixed
"thumbnail" sizes), it's  usability for creator and end user alike is
diminished IMHO. Yes, I  really like GDS - no crippling or nagging even in the
unregistered  versions, although there is some additional functionality
avaliable in a  higher priced version.  Each to his own.....<EOT> 
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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 2179
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/18/93  7:23a
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Is your catalog available by FREQ?


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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 2180
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/19/93  1:15p
Subj: TERRY WOODWARD                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>TH> moderator


BJ>Boy, I'm glad you've got this job and not me! Hang in there....

I think it is funny.  I've had the same problems for over 8 years.  I
still think it is funny, for Tim to undergo these stages.

BOB
:-)

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From: BOB KELLY                              Number: 2181
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/17/93  5:15p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>In a msg on <Jul 13 06:30>, Bob Kelly of 1:275/16 writes:

MS>MS>MS>MS> I have a copy of The 7th Guest I would like to trade for other
MS>CD's.
MS>Lets see.... I paid $55.00 for it. 1/2 price would be $27.50
MS>add in the shipping to VA. and we are looking at $31.00
MS>delivered.

Michael, you have a deal! Give me an address to send my check, and it will be
on its way! Thanks...

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 2182
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/18/93 11:32p
Subj: Windows                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*****************************************************************************
************************  CD-ROM International  *****************************
*****************************************************************************

CD PowerBox v1.0 - An excellent collection of shareware designed with the
                 BBS SysOp in mind.  Has both a DOS user interface as well
                 as a Windows GUI.  Released 01/93.  $19.

CD WinBox v1.0 - This is THE BEST Windows shareware disc yet!  Has a true
                 Windows GUI for easy file viewing and manipulation.  Just
                 released (06/93)!  $19.

SPECIAL OFFER FOR FIDONET CUSTOMERS:

        Get both discs for only $34!  Please mention that you saw the ad in
        FidoNet, because these discs are regularly sold for $34 each.

                           * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
CD-ROM International       * Call our BBS for the latest catalog, or   *
(800) 678-2374 (Orders)    * file request CATALOG from 1:344/79.  The  *
(509) 754-0724 (Voice)     * catalog has been updated with new titles  *
(509) 754-0109 (BBS/Fax)   * and lower prices.                         *
Cash/COD/Credit Cards      * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


... Clinton Cruise Lines - Taking America for a Ride!

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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 2183
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/19/93  4:30p
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following software, etc for sale. Closet cleaning time... I
wanna get RID of this stuff! Prices include postage/shipping within the
normal US.

Ultima VII - The Black Gate
  Upgraded to new version for bug fix. 3.5" disks.  $28
Ultima VII clue book - Key to the Black Gate.  $8
Ultima Underworld clue book - Mysteries of the Abyss.  $7
Ultima VI - The False Prophet.  5.25" disks.  $23
Energizer Bunny for Windows
  Screen saver, wallpaper, guest appearances. 3.5" disk.  $7
Adobe Type Manager for Windows
  Came bundled with WordPerfect for Windows. Docs & 3.5" disk,no pkg.$7
IMSI VirusCure v2.41
  Came bundled with Alpha 4. Docs & 5.25" disk, no pkg.  $7
Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
  Came bundled with SoundBlaster audio card. CD ROM in jewel case &
docs,
  but no pkg. Still in sealed plastic wrapper. CD ROM drive reqd.  $28
Grammatik 5 for Windows
  Both 5.25" and 3.5" disks.  $28

Unless otherwise specified, software comes in original package with all
manuals, maps, etc.   If interested, leave msg here, or call
913-888-5201 ext.257 (M-F 8-4 Central, or leave voice mail).

Might consider trade if you have something nifty on CD ROM that I want.
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From: DONALD MACKAY                          Number: 2184
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/19/93 12:00a
Subj: CD Caddies                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can anyone please give me some prices on CD caddies. Most of the prices
up here north of the 49th are really quite outrageous.

thanks

ttyl /usr/dan
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2185
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 07/19/93 12:12p
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dave, I have looked at a *lot* of images on other adult CDs and while 
you are correct that only a small percentage of them are really 
full-screen, DD's images go to the extreme in the opposite direction: 
too many of them are just too small, as I said, "...by my standards". 
BTW: I agree with your implied definition of "full screen". That is, 
"all image" and not wide colored borders, big BBS logos, etc. 
  
I don't understand your refernce to 12 cents/minute for downloading 
costs, but that's not the point. I buy image CDs so I won't have to d/l 
them from a BBS. 
  
As to graininess of the images, if your staisfied with the quality of 
the images, then you're a happy owner. As I said in my review: "...what 
follows is one person's opinion."  Others on the echo have agreed with 
my assessment of graininess. I admitted that I didn't know where it came 
from; I speculated about a lot of causes. If you say apparent sharpness 
is likely due to "pixel editing", that's OK by me. In that case I'd say 
DD's producers should have done some (or a lot) of that, too. 
  
Unsharp images wasn't the only thing I didn't like about Volcano, but 
again, if others are happy with it, that's fine by me. 
  
Yes, you're right. After the "numerical" part of my review, I did 
progress into more subjective areas. I said so in my earlier post when I 
disclosed the procedure that I was going to use and said it again in the 
review itself, as I recall. As to DD being all original material, I 
can't attest beyond what I said in my review. At least one person on 
this echo, Terry Woodward I think, voiced the opinion that it wasn't all 
original. You'll have to take the matter up with him if you need/want 
further discussion. 
  
As far as "easier to use interfaces", I'm in partial agreement with you. 
I think the idea of point-and-click from a catalog is really neat. It 
eliminates worrying about directories, trying to remember file names, 
etc. As you know, I don't particularly like GIFReed's version of it. As 
to alternatives to it and GDS, I understand that Rel 3 of BB will have a 
similar interface via yet a third product (forgot the name just now). 
Lee Noga has promised me a copy for eval. and you can believe that it'll 
get the same working over that GIFReed got. Stay tuned... 
  
I agree that we'va all had enough of the "knock-off" (no pun intended) 
"me-too" adult CDs. I applaud DD's producers for recognizing that and 
trying (Terry Woodward's remarks notwithstanding). IMHO, they didn't 
make it. As to being legal, I agree that's a sysop's concern. Not being 
a sysop (as I stated), I didn't consider that aspect in my review. I 
would point out that many adult CDs have as many if not more images than 
DD that are unquestionably "legal" and it would seem (again, to a 
non-sysop type) that a discrete editing of the infamous FILES.BBS file 
could make any "problem" files unreachable - so I don't think this is a 
selling point for DD. 
  
I'm lost as to your reference to "41% duplication rate" and whether or 
not I find that acceptable. First, no I wouldn't and hence the comment I 
made in another post about being very wary about so-called "new" 
offerings. Secondly, if you're referring to Pork-Ware I, I think I said 
in my review of it that it probably didn't offer the owners of more than 
one other adult CD much in the way of newness. 
  
Dave if your users are happy with DD, I'm glad for you and them both. I 
didn't like the disk and said so....exactly once (well, now twice). I 
haven't tried to dissuade others from offering it, touting it, or buying 
it, nor will I. As other CDs are offered for my review, they will get 
the same review treatment, good or bad. Readers of those reviews, like 
you, are welcome to their own opinions. 
  
As both you and I know, this "discussion" isn't exactly on topic so this 
is <EOT> from my end. 
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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 2186
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/19/93  1:15a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Forwarded from "CDROM_SALE"
 * Originally by Michael Benge
 * Originally to Mike Shannon
 * Originally dated 18 Jul 1993, 23:03

MB> By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me off?

 MS> You keep saying that.  Out of curiosity, what would the actual
 MS> monetary damages be in this case?  Can you give us an accurate
 MS> damage assessment for this "ripoff", expressed in whole dollars?
 MS> I think we'd all like to know if your prolonged character
 MS> assassination is actually warranted in relation to your
 MS> out-of-pocket expenses.

Those "damages", as you call them, would amount to approx. $20-$25.  We were to
each ccover our own shipping, approx $2.90, which I did, so say no more that
$27.50 max., $22.90 min.
This has not been a "prolonged character assasination", as you say.  It is
simply my right to try and prevent myself or anyone else from being on the
receiving end of a bad deal.  BTW, I thought you did'nt want to be involved.

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 2187
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/19/93  1:13a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: 07/21/93  6:55a                       Private: No 

 -> the thread.  Since you are not the moderator, and I was participating
 -> echo according to the rules that state I may warn others not to get r
 -> by Terry Woodward, your post means nothing to me or the thread about
 -> Woodward ripping me off.
 TH> That rule is news to me...

I have always observed postings from disgruntled participants pass thru the
echo.  I have never seen a moderator, including this conference, accuse anyone
of "whining" because of it.  If you permit it, it may as well be part of the
official rules.  If not, a clarification from the source would probably be in
order. -> By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me off? TH>
p.s. Look up the word "libel".

I am well aware of the definition.  I believe I would have no problems proving
my statements as absolutely true, and not "libel", as you request.  If Terry
Woodward feels he has been wronged, instead of the other way around, he has my
address if he feels the need to attempt to sue me.  I have no fear of that, as
he was in the wrong.

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 2188
  To: JOHN ROBINSON                            Date: 07/19/93  2:44p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JR> I say, CUT HIS FEED.!!!!

Unfortunately, for you apparently, your opinion of the matter will not have my
feed cut.  Since I have not broken the rues of the echo, your displeasure with
my postings is irrelevant when not directed directly to the moderator, who
would then in turn determine if my postings were in violation of the echo
rules.  If you have a valid complaint, Tim Helton may be reached via netmail at
1:133/515.

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From: LEN BUSSEY                             Number: 2189
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/18/93  4:55a
Subj: RE:adult Cd                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> We have all three in stock.  Prices:   Storm 1 $25, Storm 2 $28,
> Storm 3 $29.  Let me know if you're interested.  We can ship same day.
 
Yes I am interested in them.  Could you basically tell me the difference 
between the three sets and in your opionion which one do you think is 
best?  I do not have a credit card, so when I decide which one I want I 
will have to mail you a money order.
 
                                        Len

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2190
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/19/93 11:22p
Subj: This Weeks CDROM Specials               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** PCJ Computing WEEKLY SPECIALS *** MUST BE ORDERED BY JULY 27 ***
*** Orders Only 800-547-7817 / Inquiries (24 Hours) 615-339-0235 ***
 
Wing Commander/Ultima 6 (Discontinued-get it while you can)........23.95
American Business Phone Book..17.95 Software Vault #2 (ALL '93!)...19.95
X11R5-GNU.....................19.95 ** Buy 4 Vivid Titles at 44.95 each
Seedy ROM Movie Disc..........34.95 and receive your choice of 1 Free:
DR. DOS v6.0 (floppy).........24.95 Moving Fantasies, Visual Fantasies,
Hobbes OS/2...................14.95 Adult Reference Library, Physical
Source Code...................19.95 Therapy, or Hot Pix v4.0.

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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 2191
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/19/93  1:11a
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Dave, for what it's worth, DD is NOT original scans. Almost all are f
-> commercial magazines. Many show moire patterns that come only from
-> scanning magazines. Many are duplicates of scans from other boards, l
-> Garlique and Nitelog. It isn't a bad disk but I don't think it would
-> hold up in court.

 Thanks for the info Terry, Sometimes I have to go by the Label, Try to
keep up with all of the info from the echo but miss some...

 David McSpadden CD-WORLD


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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 2192
  To: RICHARD NIXON                            Date: 07/19/93  1:13a
Subj: CD-WORLD 4                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I would like to place an order w/ you for 2 caddies at $4 each.
-> Is the above address correct? And check paybale to CD-WORLD?

 Hi Richard,
  All info is correct Check will take 10 days to process, Money order
sent same day as recieved!!

 David McSpadden CD-WORLD


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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 2193
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/16/93 11:47p
Subj: Cdt = cd's, travel                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I was able to read your listing of CD-ROM titles well, but the seven messages
it took was a little much.  You might consider a two column format to condense.
 It would be  easier to handle.


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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 2194
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93 11:59a
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You do not offer the lowest price on Night Owl 9 as your ad states.


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2195
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/18/93  9:59p
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to David Mcspadden <07-16-93 08:20> Terry Woodward wrote:

TW>> Dave, for what it's worth, DD is NOT original scans. Almost all are
TW>> from
TW>> commercial magazines. Many show moire patterns that come only from
TW>> scanning magazines. Many are duplicates of scans from other boards,
TW>> like
TW>> Garlique and Nitelog.

Heard PC PIX 1 and 3 got nailed by Playboy couple of weeks ago and they wanted
$1500.00 a scan--They decided not to sue the publisher but instead is going
after the BBS's --Most the scans came from the above BBS's you mentioned--Well
over a 1,000 scans on those discs's by those boards--
Hope DD didn't come from the same mags--

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: MIKE GUIDRY                            Number: 2196
  To: BENJAMIN KEEN                            Date: 07/19/93 10:56p
Subj: Atari CD software                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (17 Jul 93) Benjamin Keen wrote to All...

 BK> Hi!
 BK>      My boss is an *Atari* dealer (the things I do for money ;->), and
 BK> one 
 BK> of the things he's thrown at me is to find a way to hook a SCSI CD up
 BK> to 
 BK> an Atari. We have a DMA/SCSI converter, but I need to know if anyone
 BK> knows 
 BK> of an Atari CD-ROM driver or if any dealers have Atari-compatible
 BK> CD-ROM 
 BK> drives/drivers.  Another thing is a searching program for CDs. I 
 BK> understand the High Sierra or ISO 9660 disks usually include some sort
 BK> of 

There is a fidonet Atari ST echo. You ought to find a board carrying it and
post a message there.


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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 2197
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 07/20/93  9:41a
Subj: CDT = CD'S, TRAVEL                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Haven't seen your name around in a while....
gimme a call at 405-672-1708.
BOB
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2198
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/20/93 12:05p
Subj: get a life!                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BT> yes my spelling and grammer are all wrong..........who cares?     
                                                                       
  
Well, I think *YOU* should care, Bubba. There's an old saying: 
"Perception is reality." which, loosely translated, means that folks 
will react to situations as they perceive the situations to be, WHETHER 
OR NOT such perceptions are factual. In the case of language, poor 
skills are seen (perceived) by most to reflect ignorance.  This is 
perhaps most easily seen in the opposite case where a superior command 
of language is often mistakenly taken to reflect intelligence or 
learning. One's about as bad as the other. 
  
It may not be your fault that your language skills are as they are - 
only you can fully understand that. However, if you have the means and 
opportunity to better them (or any other skill for that matter) and 
don't, then that *IS* your fault. 
  
Since this is *WAY* off-topic, this is <EOT> for me. 
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From: JOHN BRODERICK                         Number: 2199
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/20/93  7:15a
Subj: Re: Old 600ms CD-ROM driv               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Chris Kuefler to John Broderick <=-

 JB>         Hey if they're external I'll make an offer on one.

 CK> sorry, both internals


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        Hey Thanks any way!!

... He's got Blue Wave fever and it's spreading through the message bases!
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From: DUNCAN MARKLEY                         Number: 2200
  To: DON KULHA                                Date: 07/19/93  9:04p
Subj: MAC CDs FOR $ALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DK > folks do support Macs with PC based machines. If you can be patient a lit
DK > longer I'm working on something......


Great! I've been waiting all this time. I can wait longer. Thanks!

Duncan
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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2201
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/19/93  3:09p
Subj: Benge debacle                           Refer: NONE
Read: 07/22/93  7:29a                       Private: No 

TH>-> Besides, I've got three models to shoot in the next week and I don't
TH>-> want to be distracted. <grin>.

TH>I heard that!  If you need any on-site help, I volunteer ;).

The new one is 19, strawberry blonde, and cute as a bug. One of the
other ones developed an attitude problem. So I shot her...
You've probably noticed that I don't deal with attitude problems very
well...
When are you coming down? I'll line up some models and we'll do a couple
of cdroms in a weekend.

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From: HENRY ARIAS                            Number: 2202
  To: STEVE PHILLIPS                           Date: 07/20/93  9:35p
Subj: Re: For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

SP> HA> greyscale stuff... I wound entertain $25.00 for it and about 
SP> HA> $3.00 bucks to ship the thing.... Let me know .... Later <Henry>
SP>     
SP> I'll take it. Just let me know where to send a check if that's ok.
SP>
SP>Steve Phillips
        Ok, my address is as follows:
                Henry Arias
                1400 Gandy Boulevard Apartment 1604
                St. Petersburg, Florida 33702

Let me have your address as well and I can start to pack it up and get 
ready to beam it out.. Thanks .. Henry

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From: JESSE SCHMELZER                        Number: 2203
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/19/93  2:31a
Subj: Re: NIght Owl 9.0                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On Mon 19-Jul-1993  2:09a, Bubba Therrien wrote:
BT> -> Can anyone beat the 29.00 for night owl 9.0?? if so give me the # to
BT> ->

BT> jesse
BT>      call  Groupware, I purchased 2 of them at $25 A PIECE shipped
BT> darn good price ..

BT> GROUPWARE
BT> (206)472-1400

BT> bubba
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Thank's will give em a call.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 2204
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 07/19/93  8:06p
Subj: $15 OFF CREAM OF THE CROP               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 Introducing a special offer to save you $15 off  the  price  of a
  Cream of the Crop shareware cd.   Cream of the Crop is  currently
  selling for $29 (as all of you on my mailing list already  know).
  If you have any non-adult cd shareware or game disc that  you  no
  longer want, just send it to me for a $10 discount... AND include
  a check or money order for $20 to also save  you  the  $5  c.o.d.
  charge.   In a few days you will receive your brand spanking  new
  copy of "Cream of the Crop" ...the highest quality  selection  of
  files available on a single cd.
  
                            Terry Blount
                            P.O. Box 36
                     Bayou La Batre, Al. 36509
 
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From: GARY ESTEP                             Number: 2205
  To: CHRISTIAN SMITH                          Date: 07/20/93 10:58p
Subj: MAP CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Yes There is a cd rom disk called usa map and cost's about $90.00 If you
would like to buy mine for $60.00 leave me a message

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2206
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TK>  >CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-SIG
#12....................28.00
TK>  >CD Winbox (New!)..............29.00    PC
Gameroom...................28.00
TK>MS>Please give me your feedback on this also.

TK> completely readable.  Even when quoted and moved over 3 spaces, it
TK>still fits snugly

Thanks Tim.  8)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2207
  To: GARY SHADE                               Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GS>Mike your copy was readable. I got your catalog by the way. We'll be
GS>talking.

Thanks for the feedback Gary.

.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2208
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KR>When did you send off my order?  It'll be two weeks tomorrow, still
KR>haven't seen or heard of it...

KR>I know, I know, probably just screwed up my discount (grin).

Kirk,

They went out on July 13.  The reason for the delay was that we sold our
initial batch of Chestnut CD's, and I was waiting for 450 more.  Most of
them finally arrived on the 13th.  Sorry for the delay - you should
hopefully have them by now.  (Your discount is still intact  8)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2209
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MW>I would like to order the owl-9 how I do that?...I like to save the cod's
and
MW>don't have a credit card?

Manny,

If you would like to pre-pay by check or money order, you can send it to
our address below.

Thanks,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2210
  To: PHILIP RUSSELL                           Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: cd price list 2/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PR>I am interested in a number of titles - particularly the educational
PR>ones. What are your airmail fees on 20+ CDs to R.S.A. ?

Two ways to go:  AIR PARCEL POST INSURED (our risk): $45.00
                 AIRMAIL SMALL PACKET (your risk): $40.00

PR>How long does it take for post to get here ?

Last report I had from South Africa was 6 shipping days, but it varies
due to customs.

PR>What method of payment should I use ?

We take international VISA, MASTERCARD, and AMEX + domestic DISCOVER.  Or
you can prepay by bank check or money order in U.S. funds, drawn on a U.S.
bank.

PR>Where in the States are you, in case I have a friend go across soon ?

Yakima, Washington - about 160 miles SE of Seattle.

Feel free to call, fax, or BBS us any time!
voice 509-457-2892 / fax 509-457-2966 / BBS 509-457-0206

Bye,

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2211
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: Small problem                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>even find New York or Chicago! All other functions work perfectly. Is this a
MS>bad disk or am I doing something wrong?
MS>Please call me at 1-800-428-2835

Michael,

I'm all sold out on those right now, but am expecting more in soon.  I'll
pop one in and check for you when it gets here.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2212
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: MORE CD'S ON SALE!!!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>under BlueWave but (as you can see) is with MegaMail. Sorry for the
BJ>hassle I put you through, Mike (looking sheepish - shuffling feet (:|

Hassle me again Bob, and I'll give your VISA number to my wife and let
her go nuts on the Home Shopping Channel.   8)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2213
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: DISCOUNT CD'S 1 of 2                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC>MS>     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY
DC>MS>     PURCHASE!!

DC>Mike, what Shareware disc are you giving away for only $6.00?  It
DC>wouldn't be anything silly like the O'Connor Original Shareware 1992
DC>would it?  (Smile!)  I would hate to think that someone is still pawning
DC>those things off.....

Well, gee . . . umm . . . gosh,  <pause>.  I used to sell the OS92's, but
I can't find any more, so this week it's Phoenix 3.0.  I guess lots of
people were really getting ripped, paying 6 bucks for 6000 shareware
programs on that silly Original Shareware 92 huh?  Whew....a tenth of a
penny each!  That's inflation for ya!  I blame Clinton.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2214
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS: $29!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC>MS> O               DIGITAL DREAMS IS HERE . . . . ONLY $29.00!

DC>If you are talking about the Digital Dreams from Ero Tek, there is
DC>nothing from McHenry on it, and there is no apparent connection to that

Yes, I know.  You're quoting an ad from about 3 weeks ago.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2215
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: Chestnut cd's...$10! 1/2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DK>MS> 5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,
DK>  >    thesauruses, word-processors, style/syntax/spell checkers,
glossaries,
DK>  >    crossword solvers, foreign language tutors . . . on and on!

DK>MS>  ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
DK>  >  any Chestnut purchase!

DK>I'll take this, where do I send a check!

Dave,

Shipping address as follows:

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2216
  To: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/52                Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SF@9> MS> Once in, you can go the the <F>ile section from the main
SF@9> MS> menu and download "STARCAT.ZIP".  This contains our latest
SF@9> MS> prices, newest titles, and CD descriptions.

SF@9>how about making this freqable, mike?  :)  you know how us sysops hate to
t
SF@9>our bbses down.

All in due time my dear!  BTW, Thanks for the order today.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2217
  To: MICHAEL MULCAHY                          Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MM>  MS> Once in, you can go the the <F>ile section from the main menu and
MM>  MS> download "STARCAT.ZIP".  This contains our latest prices, newest
MM>  MS> titles, and CD descriptions.

MM>Is this file an ASCI file or is it an EXE file?.... I would like to be able
t
MM>read via MAC environment

It is in .ZIP 2.0 format, with plain ASCII files inside.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2218
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: WE HAVE A WINNER!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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    * NEWS BULLETIN * NEWS BULLETIN * NEWS BULLETIN * NEWS BULLETIN *
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WE HAVE A WINNER!

Congratulations to Vernon Melton Jr. of Greenville Michigan!  Vernon was
one of the participants in our big Pier 2 CD-ROM giveaway, and was fortunate
enough to have been selected from a field of 643 entrants as the winner in
our contest.  The contest participant base was made up of Starvector
customers and postcard entrants who submitted their names between June 22,
and July 17 1993.  Mr. Melton's was one of the postcard entries, which
proves that you don't have to purchase anything in order to win in one of
our drawings!  Again, congrats to Mr. Melton, and his Pier 2 CD-ROM is on
the way!  For those who might be interested, we have these fantastic Pier 2
shareware CD's in stock and shipping at the discount price of $35.00.  Be
on the lookout for our next drawing . . . we might call your name!

                            Starvector Software
                                PO BOX 8160
                              Yakima WA 98908

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2219
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
                                pg. 1 of 2

   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

TITLES INCLUDE:

1. THE COMPLETE BOOKSHOP - An entire bookshop on CD! Includes classics,
   poetry, humor, cookbooks, American history and founding documents, novels,
   short stories, home improvement guides, computer tutors, and more!

2. WINDOWARE - An excellent disc packed with tons of useful programs for
   Windows 3.0 and 3.1, including typefonts, font installers, games, home
   and business applications, education, wallpaper, utilities, etc.

3. SOUND SENSATIONS! - Adds multimedia excitement to your system!  Includes
   tons of sound effects, music files, jukeboxes, voices, sound clips,
   music voices, etc. in a variety of file formats.

4. TECHNOTOOLS - A programmer's dream disc! Routines, utilities, debuggers,
   troubleshooters, and other programming tools for C/C++, dBase, Clipper,
   Basic, Assembler, AI, Unix, OS/2, Pascal, Forth, and more!

5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,
   thesauruses, word-processors, style/syntax/spell checkers, glossaries,
   crossword solvers, foreign language tutors . . . on and on!

6. DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLES - Exciting arcade action games: Space wars,
   shoot-em-ups, auto racing, sports, casino gambling, horse and auto
   racing, and more. The fast action will entertain you for years!

7. TOO MANY TYPEFONTS! - Countless typefonts in all formats:  TrueType,
   ATM, Adobe Type 1, WFN, First Publisher, Ghostscript, HPL, etc. Also
   includes typeface modifiers, font managers, downloaders, & utilities.

 ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
 any Chestnut purchase!

            >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2220
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
                                pg. 2 of 2

   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

TITLES INCLUDE:

8.  CLIPART GOLIATH - Over 10,000 image files in PCX and TIF formats, plus
    some in color-TIF/PCX, MAC, GIF, etc. Files can be imported to virtually
    every desktop publishing program! Subjects include: Americana, Animals,
    Business, Computing, Entertainment, Food, Holiday, Music, People,
    Religion, Science & Medicine, Signs, Sports, Cartoons, & many more.

9.  HAM RADIO 3.0 - Excellent collection of HAM and SWL programs and data!
    Includes packet radio, satellite communications, frequency lists,
    equipment service, design, mods, logging, news, FAX, FCC, & others.

10. COLOSSAL COOKBOOK - Over 4000 recipes, far more than the "Joy of
    Cooking".  Includes excellent recipe cross-reference and search!
    Includes health/nutrition guides, ethnic and regional recipes, meal
    planning, low-cholesterol diets, cooking instructions, & more!

11. BIBLES & RELIGION - All popular New & Old Testament versions, Book of
    Mormon, Talmud portions, lexicons & concordances, study guides,
    organization membership & fund-raising programs, etc.

12. SHAREWARE OVERLOAD - Over 6100 programs (550mb compressed) for all
    applications, with an emphasis on games and Windows programs.  Subjects
    include business, clipart, communications, BBS, database, education,
    finance, games, graphics, religion, sound, utilities, Windows, & more!

13. OUR SOLAR SYSTEM - Exciting NASA and observatory photos of the planets,
    moons, comets, earth, and celestial phenomena!  Includes star locators,
    planetarium programs, astronomical data, voyage simulators, + tons more.

 ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
 any Chestnut purchase!

            >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: PAUL NELSON                            Number: 2221
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/20/93  8:08p
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

<<***** On 07-20-93, MIKE SHANNON wrote to ALL: *****>>
>             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
>                                pg. 1 of 2
>
>   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
>                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

Mike, I faxed you an order tonight for 2 $10 CD's (ClipArt Goliath,  OUR
SOLAR SYSTEM ).  Please include in a catalog if you have one and if possible
post a reply here re: shipping date.  Also, I'm looking for a good
encyclopedia for my computer.  I am considering Encarta and would invite
your recommendations. I have two kids (10 & 13) who will use it a bunch.  I
run Windows 3.1 on a fast 486 with lots of memory and a great Video setup.

					Thanks for your help...

					Paul Nelson





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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 2222
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/20/93  8:11p
Subj: cd's shipping to canada????!!!          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Howdy Chris,

18 Jul 93, Chris Kuefler writes to Kirk Rawnsley:


 KR>> When did you send off my order?  It'll be two weeks tomorrow, still
 KR>> haven't seen or heard of it...
 KR>> + Origin: We are Not Saints, Calgary Alberta (403) 246-8669

 CK> Hmm I ordered some to. WIth us being in Canada.. that might be a problem.
 CK> Did you order adult cd's? Does anybody know what the border guys do if
 CK> they catch these?

None of the titles I ordered were adult.  From what I understand, it
usually takes a week or so.  It's been over two so far...

 CK> Hmmm my tagline doesnt show it, so just for the record, Im in Fort
 CK> McMurray! CJK

What's the weather up there like these days?  You gettin nothing but
rain?

          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: DAVE KALWISHKY                         Number: 2223
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/20/93  8:06p
Subj: Mitsumi's for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DK> Just thought I'd ket you know that you can purchase the LU005 drivers for
 DK> $187...

CK> And if you convert that to Canadien you are looking at a price of $243.1

Well I'm NOT canadian.

     -=> Dave <=-     Mon  07-19-1993


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From: DODD HOWELL                            Number: 2224
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93  6:11p
Subj: 5-20-93 cd-rom prices                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-Rom DISK FOR SALE

                *SHAREWARE TITLES*


Title                   Cost

Night Owl's 7           $27
Night Owl's 8           $28
Night Owl's 9           $30
Pier 2                  $30
So Much Shareware 2     $27
So Much Shareware 3     $30
Phoenix Version 3.0     $23
Gigabyte Gold           $29



              Progressive Systems

              Voice: 803-497-6525
              BBS  : 803-497-6645
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2225
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 07/21/93 12:10a
Subj: catalog request                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LF>Please send a catalog to:
LF>Lois Frankel
LF>(I already have catalogs from Starvector and Crazy Bob)

With catalogs from Crazy Mike and Crazy Bob, what more do you need?  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2226
  To: JD BROWN                                 Date: 07/21/93 12:10a
Subj: Walnut Creek CD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JB>MS> We have them in stock as of 7/16/93.  Price is $16.  Give a shout
JB>MS> if you want one.

JB> Durn. Should have waited a bit longer. Could have saved over $ 7.00
JB>by ordering from you. Bet I will ask you next time.

That'll teach ya!  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2227
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93 12:10a
Subj: BOTTOM LINE PRICING                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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                           BOTTOM LINE PRICING
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Here's my dilemma:  I'm pooped.  I have a new BBS that takes much of my
time, and it's all I can do to spoonfeed the bulletin board, run the
house, (wife's away) water the dog, feed the lawn, and take care of my
growing customer base.  Because of this, I haven't had a chance to sit down
and update my 2-column "monster" CD price list with all the new titles we
keep getting.  Come to think of it, I haven't had a chance to sit down,
period, so here's my proposal:

1. Get your BEST price on any CD-ROM title (or titles) advertised in this
echo by our competitors.

2. When you're ready to order, give us a call . . . . If we stock the
titles, we'll beat our competitors' advertised prices by 5%.  (No closeout
items please)

3. It's that simple.

With over 290 titles IN STOCK, we will probably have what you want, but
if not, I'll make my best effort to get it for you.  Unlike some dealers,
we STOCK what we sell, and usually have 95% of our advertised titles in
stock on any given day.  Night Owl 9: In stock.  So Much Shareware 3: In
stock.  Pier 2: In stock.  Global Explorer: In stock.  (Even weird ones,
like: The Sporting News, Eagle Eye Shareware, World Vision, Otherware:
ALL in stock)  So don't be afraid to give us a try if you have never
ordered from us before!  Starvector would love to add your name to our
growing list of satisfied customers!

Well, there it is in a nutshell - Shop around, get your best price, and
call us for a 5% savings!  Now please, no phony phone quotes, confederates,
or any of that stuff.  I've already been through that nonsense, so let's
keep this on the straight and level, and Starvector will give you some
CD-ROM deals like you've never seen before!  Who knows, if I like this
approach, I might just stick with it permanently.  It would save you guys
from having to read the "monster" every week!  8)

Mike Shannon
Starvector Software

p.s.  Yes, Night Owl 9 qualifies too!

    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39
    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

---
 * SLMR 2.1a * Tagline thievery . . . On the next Geraldo!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2228
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93 12:10a
Subj: SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 - $28               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

___________________________________________________________________________

                    BRAND NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR!
___________________________________________________________________________

Soundware Coll'ctn..$27   So Much Shareware 3.$28   QRZ Ham Radio.......$19
Hobbes OS/2 1993....$16   Hamware 1993........$28   Game Arena..........$15
Eagle Eye Shareware.$25   Up All Night........$20   Precision Mapping...$88
Fantazia Fonts......$29   Business Assistant..$15   Learning Adventure..$15
M/M Computer Tutor..$30   Sound F/X Library...$29   Cookbook Heaven.....$29
Int'l Graphics Libr.$33   Night Owl 9.........$37   The Holy Bible......$24

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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 * SLMR 2.1a * E-Mailing frequencies are open Captain.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2229
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93  1:53a
Subj: 2 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

***************************************************************************
                  2 BRAND NEW ALL ORIGINAL ADULT CD'S!!!
***************************************************************************

SOUTHERN BEAUTIES....................................................$35

        * Over 1000 GIF's in 1024x768 resolution from ORIGINAL slides
        * Also has over 300mb of 24-bit TrueColor images
        * Over 65 top models
        * SoundBlaster front loader
        * Menu-driven
        * 675mb in all
        * FILES.BBS in root directory describes each model


AMATEUR MODELS.......................................................$35

        * 650mb of full color SVGA images in two formats: 1024x768 GIF's,
          and TrueColor 24-bit 16.7 million color TIFF's
        * Centerfold style layouts from around the world
        * Completely original scans from professional photographs
        * Includes Monster Media's "VIEWCD" custom viewer interface
        * FILES.BBS in each directory

SPECIAL!  BOTH DISCS.................................................$69

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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 * SLMR 2.1a * I am Clinton of Borg: resistance is taxable!

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From: JOHN BRODERICK                         Number: 2230
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/21/93  2:18p
Subj: Re: Terry Woodward                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Michael Benge to John Robinson <=-

 JR> I say, CUT HIS FEED.!!!!

 MB> Unfortunately, for you apparently, your opinion of the matter will not
 MB> have my feed cut.  Since I have not broken the rues of the echo, your
 MB> displeasure with my postings is irrelevant when not directed directly
 MB> to the moderator, who would then in turn determine if my postings were
 MB> in violation of the echo rules.  If you have a valid complaint, Tim
 MB> Helton may be reached via netmail at 1:133/515.

STOP I say let dead horses lie. So one person lost some money
one person has been draged through the street by that person
and now every one is bickering over nothing.
just don't post anything else about this!
simple sulution eh!
let's see if you guys can be man enough to do so.


... I know a good tagline when I steal one.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: BRIAN COFFEY                           Number: 2231
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/21/93  5:50p
Subj: order rec'd                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Got the Ham CD yesterday.  The wife liked ProPhone so much, I had to put a CD
in her machine so she wouldn't be tying-up the BBS machine all night!

SoftwareVault II is a hit with the BBS users.  I'll be ordering more from you
soon, probably on a quarterly basis.

... Another satisfied Starvector customer!

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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 2232
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/20/93  8:09p
Subj: Re: NEW CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


LN>As one of the author's let me answer this one--*YOU BET*, they are all
  >300-600DPI, no junk, no dupes--11,000+, and the book which will picture all
  >these will be out end of July-August, but the disc is available now.


Hi Lee, I just bought that CD from Mike Shannon. Please let me know when
the book becomes available and how to get a copy. Thanks.
 þ QMPro 1.50 22-2345 þ MSI HQ! BBS þ 805-395-0650 Home of QmodemPro!


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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 2233
  To: BOB HALL                                 Date: 07/20/93  8:43p
Subj: NIGHTOWL 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93  7:38p                       Private: No 


BH>To some people, the echo's are small claims court.  They just get
  >carried away in their little puddle of self inflicted power, and think
  >they run the world.

Hi Bob, You are right. I just got carried away with that statement about
small claims court. It's just frustrating to flip through over a hundred
messages only to find a large portion of them are vindictive strikes at
some individual. I can fully appreciate making the rest of us aware of
an unscrupulous person or dealer. I don't like seeing a bunch of
bickering and slander. It's just not necessary.
 þ QMPro 1.50 22-2345 þ PCDOS&MSDOS&CP/M&WINDOWSI'LLFIDDLEWITHOS/2WOULDN'TYOU


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From: BRAD RILEY                             Number: 2234
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/22/93 12:08a
Subj: Sell Me 2 CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I want the latest and hottest Adult CD.  I want info on dupes and types of
files and price.
 
I want the latest and best Shareware Disc.  No old files and latest version of
files, not 6 versions of the same files.  I believe you get what you pay for
and I want the latest and best.
 
My main request is lowest amount of dupes, highest quality files and latest
version of files and pictures.
 
I am ready to buy now.
 
Please do one of the following:
 
1. Fax me your bid at 816-746-4747
           or
2. Netmail me at 1:280/23
           or
3. Leave me a messgae here. 

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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 2235
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/21/93  5:45p
Subj: cd's shipping to canada????!!!          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Howdy Chris,

My CDs arrived from Starvector today, two and a half weeks after
ordering.  I found out what the delay was, customs indeed had opened
them up, probably somebody copied them as even the CDs themselves were
no longer wrapped.

          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: KEITH RITCHIE                          Number: 2236
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93  9:46p
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I just got the Winbox Cd from Starvector and I am having a bear of a time
getting it to work. It keeps lookingg for a Project1 file that is nowhere to be
found. I checked the power.cfg file and it has the correct info. Help... it
seems like a good CD from the Dir listing but it is worthless if you can't
access it.
                        Thanks, Keith

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 2237
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/20/93  9:31a
Subj: Libel                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TW> anything he wants. My next action will be to see relief under
 TW> Policy Four, which guarantees Fido members protection from
 TW> harassment. I will file a formal compliant with my RC.

A policy complaint filed by you on this matter will have little weight. You
have never asked me to stop posting to you, ad only recently did the moderator
issue a directive for me to stop posting on the topic of the trade you refused
to complete.  Unless you make it clear to someone that you feel harassed, there
is no way they can read your mind and do what you wish.   It truly amazes me
that you have the gall to threaten this, when you should simply send me the CD
you offered.  You could have easily sent it instead of mine in the FED-EX
envelope, but since, as you personally said, you did not like the disc I sent
you, things worked out well for you, giving you, as you profess to believe,
reason to mail my disc back instead.  The statement that you stole from me
still stands. Granted I have my disc, but you convinced me you would complete
our trade, I paid for shipping to have my disc delivered to you, and waited for
you to send yours in return.  Instead you shipped mine back.  In as much, you
caused me to lose a total of $2.90.  Since you did so after the deal had been
made, your action, once again in MY opinion, as well as the opinion of GA law,
were fraudulent.  That is where my statements have originated.  I am due a CD
rom, I have yours here.  The right thing for you to do is send me the PC II rom
and $2.90, so that I may mail you your Physical Therapy disc back.  If you
refuse to do this, fine, I will continue to feel the way I do.  Since the
moderator has directed me to stop warning other people of MY problems, there is
no more I can do about the matter.  THIS will be the final post on this subject
by either of us.  You feel harassed?  Fine, my postings cease with this
message. Unless you take advantage of my final offer to allow you to make good
on this trade, any additional postings by you, concerning me, would be
considered harrassing also, as they would serve no useful purpose.  YOU could
correct a lot of ill will and do the right thing by completing our deal as you
agreed.  If your word is no good, little else matters.  Have a good day Terry. 
Finis



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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2238
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/22/93  6:16a
Subj: SCSI CDROM Drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $220.00 with caddy.

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.

Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin SCSI,
  300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,
  64k buffer.  

205-837-5053 




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From: SULTAN QAMAR                           Number: 2239
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/21/93  4:09p
Subj: Re: Starvector                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

IA> FYI they are not manufacturer but distributor. TTYL 

IA> --- DB 1.53/002199
IA> * Origin: GroupWare-Voice:1-800-373-0628 Fax:1-206-473-1634 

Was wondering if you had any Pioneer 6 disc Changers.  I need a used one.  If
you have on or know where abouts I can get one, please netmail me 1:221/206
with all the info.  Your 1-800 number isn't available form Canada.
 
                                  Sultan
* SPITFIRE v3.3

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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 2240
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/19/93  4:18p
Subj: Wierd Science                           Refer: NONE
Read: 07/23/93  5:44a                       Private: No 

 TH> But have you been in CDs longer than the dude who did the Magnum discs?
 TH> (G&D&RLH).. ;)

       I don't know if Bob has (he can answer for hisself). He's got to be a
bit brighter in any case...who, besides a charter member of Thom's fan club,
would set up their disks so you have to use XARC? I'm finally removing the last
of the Magnum disks from my system and removing the banner proclaiming
"To use the files off CD's #4 & #5 you must download and use XARC.EXE".

-DCK


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2241
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93 12:06p
Subj: Trade adult CD for Adult CD ?           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ä  I have the Adult CD Volcano, and would like to trade it for another adult 
cd, If interested, Please let me know.


                   .....|<evin

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From: LARISSA KOHLER                         Number: 2242
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/20/93  8:55a
Subj: Walnut Creek Games CDROM                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi.  We ordered the new Walnut Creek Games CDROM in January of this year.  At
the time they told us it would be coming out at the end of February, which was
fine with us.  Well, February came and went, and they told us it would be april
or may because they were having trouble getting authors and copyrights figured
out...that was fine with us as well.  Well, at the end of May we called them
and they said that they had it all put together and would be publishing it VERY
soon.  However, we didn't receive a copy.  In the middle of June we called them
again..and they said that they'd had problems with the quality of the cd, and
that a different publisher was having to put it out.  What i was wondering was
this:  Has anyone else gotten their cd yet?  I'm not particularly worried, as
they have been very courteous and our other 3 cdroms from them have been
exceptional, but I am wondering...  Thanks!
     Larissa

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From: ANDREW HUIGE                           Number: 2243
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93 12:11p
Subj: looking for a diask                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÄAll, 
    I heard of a disk with well over 450 files, I am looking for a disk to 
start a bbs with, so if you have any suggestions where I can pick one up or if
you are selling a disk that meet's or beats this discription, call me. It will
be greatly appreciated
                   Boss

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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 2244
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/19/93  5:03p
Subj: NighOwl 9                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I was ready to buy it for 37.00...but them I hear someone said:it can be bough
for 25.00 a piece..? Any true on that ??????????? 

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From: RICH JACKSON                           Number: 2245
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/20/93  8:25p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 > If you consider a father of three, who is a property manager a
 > kid, you must be in your nineties by now, eh?  Must explain the
 > grumpiness.


Up to your old tricks Michael??  How did you go from no kids to three kids in
the last year?

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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 2246
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/19/93 12:32a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS> TO ALL READERS . . . The following is a section of my ad.  Please reply
MS> back as to whether or not it is legible:

MS>  þ SLMR 2.1a þ I can't steer without my beer.

 * SLMR 2.1a * Ok here, your ad was clear! <g>


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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 2247
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  2:42p
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                       Four    Star    Enterprises
                     Custom CDROM production Service

  Our CDROM Recorder is in, and ready to serve you!   We can produce
  a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive overnight!

     o Complete confidentiality assured.
     o Free up Megabytes of expensive magnetic media
     o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
     o Reasonable Rates. (We will meet or beat any offer)
     o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
     o Great for BBS Files, Document Imaging, and Permanent Archival!
     o Great for Multimedia Presentations / Demos.
     o Free UPS Red label shipping to the Continental U.S.

 Pricing for Custom CD production:

o Up to 527 Megabyte CD's.  $1 per Megabyte. $85 Minimum, $139 Maximum.
  $50 for each duplicate after paying Full price for the first. o Up to 650
Megabyte CD's.  $1 per Megabyte. $90 Minimum, $144 Maximum.
  $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first. o CD
Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee. o Free UPS Red label shipping (2 day Air)
to the continental US.


   Data formats Supported:           Software Supported:

o QIC-36 DC600/6XXX Streaming Tape.  o Sytos Plus   o Mountain Filesafe o QIC
40/80                          o Everex Tape  o PCTools Backup o Floppy (At
additional cost)        o Fastback 3.0 o 4mm DAT coming in August! o Hard Disk


Terms:

  Prepay for service via Certified check or money order.  Personal
  checks must clear bank before production begins.  SORRY, we are not
  set up to accept your Visa/Mastercard yet.


*** ** *** ** *** **   Special   ** *** ** *** ** ***
 For the months of July and August, all orders
 qualify for a 10% discount from our CURRENT pricing.
 Offer ends August 31, 1993.
*** ** *** ** *** **   Special   ** *** ** *** ** ***

For further information, File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node 1:239/900.0 at
V.32bis speeds.

 517-865-6800 Voice (11:00 AM - 6:00PM Monday - Saturday)
 517-865-6066 (Customer Support BBS)
 1:239/900.0 (Fidonet)

COMING SOON!  o Compact Disk AUDIO Production!
              o 4mm DAT


Revision Date: 07-05-93

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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 2248
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/18/93 11:39p
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                 ****  Four-Star Enterprises  ****
                       Custom CDROM Service

  Our CDROM Recorder is fired up, and ready to serve you!   We can
  produce a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive
  overnight!

   o Complete confidentiality assured.  Your data will NOT be pilfered.
   o Free up Megabytes of expensive magnetic media.
   o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
   o Use as a master to transfer data to a pressing facility.
   o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
   o Great for:  BBS Files, Document Imaging, Permanent Archival
                 Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
   o In MOST cases, 24 hour turnaround is possible.
   o Free UPS Blue label shipping to the Continental U.S.
   o COMING SOON!  Compact Disk AUDIO Production!  COMING SOON!

Pricing for Custom CD production:

o 527 Meg:  o $1 per megabyte UP TO $139.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 139MB
            o Minimum charge $85 for less than 85MB.
            o $50 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o 650 Meg:  o $1 per Megabyte UP TO $144.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 144MB
            o Minimum charge $90 for less than 90MB.
            o $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o CD Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee.

   Data formats Supported:               Software Supported:
 ---------------------------           ----------------------- o 60MB
DC600/6XXX Streaming Tape.  o Sytos Plus o Mountain Filesafe
                                   o Everex Tape

o QIC 40/80  (Colorado Jumbo 250)  o PCTools o Colorado Software

o Floppy (At additional cost)      o Fastback 3.0 o PCTools

o Hard Disk

** 4mm DAT, and 125/250MB 5.25" Streaming tape will be available SOON **

Terms:

  Prepay for service via Certified check or money order.  Personal
  checks must clear bank before production begins.  SORRY, we are
  not able to accept your Visa/Mastercard at this time.

*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***
 For the months of July and August, all orders qualify
 for a 10% discount from our CURRENT pricing.  Offer
 ends August 31, 1993.
*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***

Notice:

Four Star Enterprises will NOT be a party to the creation of "elite", or
pirated software collections on CDROM.  Such activity is morally WRONG and
illegal.  If this is your intention, please do not waste my time or yours.

For further information, please File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node
1:239/900.0 at V.32bis speeds, or call our voice number.

Loyd Craft
Four Star Enterprises
517-865-6800 Voice (11:00 AM - 6:00PM Monday - Saturday) 517-865-6066 (Customer
Support BBS) 1:239/900.0 (Fidonet)

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2249
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 07/23/93  6:28a
Subj: cd's shipping to canada??               Refer: 5680
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> ordering.  I found out what the delay was, customs indeed had opened
-> them up, probably somebody copied them as even the CDs themselves wer
-> no longer wrapped.

Exporting adult material to Canada can be a hassle.... There must be
500 people working at the border censoring the material that enters the
country.  Me thinks that it's not ANY government's responsibility to
force-feed morality, thru censorship, on its citizens.  But then again,
censorship allows the Canadian government to maintain CONTROL over their
people - CONTROL that allows its political leaders to retain their
CONTROL.... CONTROL that perpetuates to TAXing thing.

Ironically, one of the world's few remaining adult CD ROM manufacturers
is located in Canada.... And this plant is 1/2 owned by the Canadian
government!  Go figger.

tim
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From: DON NELSON                             Number: 2250
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/22/93 12:32a
Subj: Toshiba CDROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* On 07-15-93 in a message to All, Michael Konor said:
MK> 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.

Mike,

Can you tell me what the maximum capacity CD-ROM this drive can handle.  I'm
having a problem with mine (the one I purchased from you). I'm getting the
following error: 
"File read/write error-drive may be open or disk unformatted"

I've tried everything I can thing of (other controllers, other machines,
switches/jumpers, I taken every none essential card out of the machines, etc),
the only thing I can think of is that the CD has too much stuff on it, and the
cd-drive cannot access it.

Any suggestions?  (Or could this unit be defective.)

Thanks, 
Don Nelson

BTW:  I just received my CD order, so this is the first time I've had a chance
to use the drive beyond list directories (on a borrowed disk).

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From: BOB HAY                                Number: 2251
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93 10:39p
Subj: E & M Disk                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

I am looking for someone who has the Electricity and Magnetism CD-ROM.  Pricing
and ordering information appreciated.

thanks,


Bob

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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2252
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93 10:59p
Subj: CD-ROM TRADE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following CD-ROM's I would be willing to trade, especialy for
adult CD's.

1.Loom
2.The Secret of Monkey Island
3.Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
4.A Line in the Sand

Israel M. Gomberg
330 Kitty Hawk Rd. #2806
Universal City, TX 78148
(210)945-9672


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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 2253
  To: PAUL NELSON                              Date: 07/22/93  9:51a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (20 Jul 93) Paul Nelson wrote to Mike Shannon...
 PN> >   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of
 PN> popular Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!
 PN> Mike, I faxed you an order tonight for 2 $10 CD's (ClipArt Goliath, 
 PN> OUR SOLAR SYSTEM ).

 Hello Paul.  Well Mike really pulled one off this time.  I just purchased
 the exact same CDs, and they arrived Tuesday.  What a GREAT collection &
 for only $10.oo each too.  Pssss, don't tell everybody you have a CD full
 of clipart as they will be bugging the hell out of you for files, that is
 those w/o CDRom Players.  I am sure you will like them I know I do and its
 an EXCELLENT value for the bucks.  BTW, I have no connection w/SV other
 than a as customer.

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From: BENJAMIN KEEN                          Number: 2254
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/22/93 12:15a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 07-19-93, Boris Osadciw50ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI
Complete-$269.00
>------------------------------------

What are the stats on that NEC? Do you have a Mac driver for it? I don't 
need a SCSI card, but I do need to know if it has two Centronics 50 (or 
DB-25) ports on the back. I heard the older portable NECs had only one 
SCSI port on the back. If you have any other external SCSI drives (new or 
used) let me know.
-Ben


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From: BENJAMIN KEEN                          Number: 2255
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/22/93 12:15a
Subj: CDROM_SALE ANTICS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 07-19-93, Michael Benge calling in response to each of my messages,
and mailed my disk back,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>------------------------------------

If he mailed your disk back, then you *haven't* lost anything except for 
your time. Quit wasting more of it by beating this [thoroughly] dead 
horse! It's not like it was a floppy that he copied. Few people have 650 
MB of space lying around.
-Ben


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From: GENE FULL                              Number: 2256
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 07/21/93 11:36p
Subj: Summer Spectacular!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you all have a catalog?  If you do, my address is
Gene Full
2800 11th Ave.
Vienna, WV  26105

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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 2257
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/21/93  6:46a
Subj: Windows                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DR>         Get both discs for only $34!  Please mention 
 DR> that you saw the ad in
 DR>         FidoNet, because these discs are regularly sold for $34 each.

Gee, I paid $39 not $34 when I bought them from ya just a week or too ago.


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From: JOE BURKE                              Number: 2258
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 07/20/93  5:37a
Subj: So Much Shareware 3 Revie               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

No thanks that's fine. I wanted on that runs on dorinfo.def without having to
run a converter. I've found most use door.sys.


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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2259
  To: DAVID MCSPADDEN                          Date: 07/22/93  7:27a
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DM>-> Dave, for what it's worth, DD is NOT original scans. Almost all are f

DM> Thanks for the info Terry, Sometimes I have to go by the Label, Try to
DM>keep up with all of the info from the echo but miss some...

I know it's tough. There's no way I'd be a vendor right now. It would
help if publishers of cds told the truth. But, then that's true of
movies, restaurants, aluminum siding, used cars..

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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 2260
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/21/93  4:37p
Subj: Re: Software sale/trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll take Adobe Type Manager for windows if you still have it. Can send
moneyorder...let me know. I'm located in Moore, OK (sub of OKC). Thanks

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From: KENNY RICE                             Number: 2261
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/22/93  7:18p
Subj: HCEAP CD-ROM Drive                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for a cheap  ROM drive that is O/S-2 and Novell compatible... any
one have such a thing out there they are willing to part with cheaply..

Later
RiceMan

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From: DON NELSON                             Number: 2262
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/22/93  1:04a
Subj: Toshiba CDROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MK> 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.

Mike,

RE:  Concerning my problem with the cd-rom. 
Let me add, that if I try to copy the file off the cd-rom, it usually does it,
but only after several (3-10) retries.  This is a GIF disk, I'm viewing
directly off the disk.  I'm verifing that the material is acceptable for the
BBS.

If you can, give me your voice number, or call me (303) 470-6642 anytime.  I'm
in the mountain time zone, but I don't get home until late.

Thanks Again,

.dn 
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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2263
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 07/21/93  7:21a
Subj: Re: nightowl 9                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MA>IA> > your store, now that your wife threw your ass out).  ;-)

MA>IA> I don't think it is very nice for you to mention anything

MA>Yeah Dave... it's his business what he does with his "trouser trout".

Maybe you kids can all take this soap opera to netmail and let the rest of
us read about selling CDROM products.

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2264
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93  7:21a
Subj: Wanted: 7th Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested in buying a complete version of Seventh Guest,
used, shipped, for $35.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2265
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/22/93 10:59a
Subj: 2 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS>                  2 BRAND NEW ALL ORIGINAL ADULT CD'S!!!           
                                                                       
  
Howse 'bout sendin' me a pare of them on 'proval?  (;>  (i.e. same deal 
as last time) 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2266
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/22/93 11:06a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> 10. COLOSSAL COOKBOOK - Over 4000 recipes, far more than the "Jo  
 MS>    Cooking".  Includes excellent recipe cross-reference and sear  
 MS>    Includes health/nutrition guides, ethnic and regional recipes  
 MS>    planning, low-cholesterol diets, cooking instructions, & more  
                                                                       
  
I'll take one of these, too, please. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2267
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/22/93 11:07a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> 11. BIBLES & RELIGION - All popular New & Old Testament versions  
 MS> of                                                                
 MS>    Mormon, Talmud portions, lexicons & concordances, study guide  
 MS>    organization membership & fund-raising programs, etc.          
                                                                       
  
Wasn't too thrilled with this one. What I'm looking for is a 
bible/religion CD that has a bundled "front end" search engine with it. 
More along the lines that an encyclopedia CD would have. What'cha got?? 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2268
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/22/93 11:45a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes, before 3.0.            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Jason Taynor <=-

 >>    Anyone got the above?  Not the newer one with a bunch of stuff
 >>    removed? Also, I've seen it advertised for $29, any dealers

 BO> Yep, we have the older version in stock ! If your intersted, give us a
 BO> call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be glad to assist you further.

Boris:

Are you saying that you still stock the *ORIGINAL*  Rel 1.0 BB? If you
have any of THEM at $29, I'd be interested in hearing about it.

... ARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! ... Tension breaker, had to be done.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2269
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/22/93 11:49a
Subj: Re: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Patrick Rosenheim to All <=-

 PR> PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600
 PR> Mastercard & Visa accepted. Posted on 07/20/93, @ 08:12.
 PR> PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                         PRICE
 PR>
 PR> AFTERDARK  CDX - After Dark Trilogy                    37.00
 PR> ALLBEAUTIE CDX - All Beauties                          26.00
 PR> AMATEURMOD CDX - Amateur Models                        30.00
 PR> DIRTYTALK  CDX - Dirty Talk                            41.00
 PR> EXOTICGIRL CDX - Exotic Girls                          27.00
 PR> FOXES      CDX - Foxes                                 29.00
 PR> HOUSEOFSLE CDX - House of Sleeping Beauties            43.00
 PR> WICKEDPWIN CDX - Wicked Photo CD Windows               48.00

Would be interested in finding our more about these titles. Do you have
descriptions, data, etc. on them?

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2270
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/22/93  8:16p
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS>             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

Hogwash.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2271
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/22/93  8:24p
Subj: Bottom Line Pricing                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PCJ also stocks most of what we sell.  We can generally get anything we have
advertised if not in stock within 3-4 business days to ship.  So, go ahead and
get your price, then call Starvector and get your 5% off price, then call us
back, and we will give you an additional 1% off of the Starvector price on
items that are normally priced and not specials or closeouts.  PCJ tries our
best to be your low price leader to save you money wherever possible.
 

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From: MEL ORECKLIN                           Number: 2272
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93  6:47p
Subj: Cd's by phone...                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for BBS brag-points?
Can't seem to fill up your 100 CD-ROM Jukebox? Getting nice Christmas cards
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This won't help, but, it will waste a lot of time that you would otherwise
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  Hobbes OS/2 Nov. '92 ................... $21.95 *
  Info-Mac CD-ROM Aug. '92 (Mac Only) .... $49.95 *
  Just Games ............................. $19.95
  LAN Master ............................. $34.95
  Monster Disk 1992 ...................... $54.95
  Night Owl's v7 '92 ..................... $35.00 * BBS
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  PC-Sig Library 11 ...................... $39.95
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2273
  To: PAUL NELSON                              Date: 07/22/93  1:10a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PN>>             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
PN>>                                pg. 1 of 2
PN>>
PN>>   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
PN>>                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

PN>Mike, I faxed you an order tonight for 2 $10 CD's (ClipArt Goliath,  OUR
PN>SOLAR SYSTEM ).  Please include in a catalog if you have one and if possible
PN>post a reply here re: shipping date.  Also, I'm looking for a good
PN>encyclopedia for my computer.  I am considering Encarta and would invite
PN>your recommendations. I have two kids (10 & 13) who will use it a bunch.  I
PN>run Windows 3.1 on a fast 486 with lots of memory and a great Video setup.

Yes Paul, I got it.  Thanks very much.  The CD's shipped out today (7/21),
and a catalog is included.  As for Encarta, I've heard very good things
about it, but so far have not put any in stock.  I may do so however if the
price comes down to a reasonable level.  I think the nicest one we carry
right now is Compton's Interactive MPC.  Great looking layout, and a nice
interface that will let your kids interact with the question/answer process.
In stock at $107, or we'll beat your best price in here by 5%.

Give a shout if I can help you with anything else!

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2274
  To: LEN BUSSEY                               Date: 07/22/93  1:10a
Subj: adult Cd                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LB>> We have all three in stock.  Prices:   Storm 1 $25, Storm 2 $28,
LB>> Storm 3 $29.  Let me know if you're interested.  We can ship same day.

LB>Yes I am interested in them.  Could you basically tell me the difference
LB>between the three sets and in your opionion which one do you think is
LB>best?  I do not have a credit card, so when I decide which one I want I

Len,

Storm 1 was one of the very first adult CD's, and is "slightly" quirky in
that there are 20 or 30 files that cannot be read, but that's really no
big deal in my opinion.  #1 has GIF's, adult games, text file stories, and
animation.  Storm 2 is comprised of all GIF's which have been compressed,
or "GIFlited".  Banned in Japan.  Storm 3 is the best of the series, with
newer images and over 4500 GIF files.

Shipping is a flat $4 when you decide to order.

Take care,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2275
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/22/93  1:10a
Subj: PRECISION MAPPING IS HERE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD

TITLE:  Precision Mapping

DESCRIPTION:  A complete, detailed map of the United States, with search,
edit, draw, and print capabilities.  ZOOM in on any city, right down to
the zip code, area code, or even street!  Look up addresses, measure
distances, plan travel routes, print laser-quality maps, and clip images
for import to other programs!  All in a user-friendly environment!

SPECIAL FEATURES:  Full CAD features with draw, edit, and control over
all presentation aspects, including text, alignment, color, line width,
etc.  OUTPUT to file (raster or vector), screen, dot matrix printer,
laser printer, or HPGL plotter.  DYNAMIC ZOOM in/out/all.  Window,
pan, scale, to any address, city, zip, or area code.  CLIP all or any
part of an image to a .PCX file for import into your favorite word
processor or DTP program.

FREEBIE:  Includes the latest edition of the American Business Phonebook
with over 10 million business listings, absolutely FREE!

REQUIREMENTS:  EGA or higher monitor, DOS 4.0+, 550K free RAM, 2MB of
expanded memory, 10MB of (temporary) hard drive space, and any ISO9660
CD-ROM drive.  Mouse recommended.

PRICE:  $88

Mike sez . . .
"If you think Street Atlas was great, wait til you see this one!  Better,
more elaborate features, and it runs under plain ol' DOS!  This mapping
program even has "Shannon Road", which is a little dirt road my dad and
uncles carved out when they planted their apple orchard.  How's that for
thoroughness!"

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From: STEVE ELLIOTT                          Number: 2276
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/22/93  4:45p
Subj: MS MPC Works                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

One quick question, do you ship COD?
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From: STUART ROSS                            Number: 2277
  To: VICKI FLETCHER                           Date: 07/21/93  4:15a
Subj: Re: CHESTNUT CD'S...$10! 2/2            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

VF> Dear Mike,
VF>   Do you have a catalog or brochure of the CD's you have available?
VF> I sure would like a copy if you do.....
Yea, me too......
                        Jim Ross
                        6597 Kentwood Dr.
                        Holly, Mi.   48442

Thanx...

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From: STUART ROSS                            Number: 2278
  To: STUART ROSS                              Date: 07/21/93  4:19a
Subj: Re: CHESTNUT CD'S...$10! 2/2            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

VF> Dear Mike,
VF>   Do you have a catalog or brochure of the CD's you have available?
VF> I sure would like a copy if you do.....
SR> Yea, me too......
SR>                         Jim Ross
SR>                         6597 Kentwood Dr.
SR>                         Holly, Mi.   48442
SR> 
Oh, yea.... I just bought this CD-ROM, and I'm looking for all sort's of 
title's. If your a dealer and have a catalog or such, send to the above name 
and address.
Thanx.....

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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 2279
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/21/93  7:06p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <18 Jul 93  19:41:39>, MICHAEL SELLS (1:390/5.4) writes:
 >I am not really looking for a adult CD, but, I would ship it to you for 
 >$40.00. If OK with you Call me at 1-504-893-7279 or post here.
I have sent you a check. The game is not for me, it is for a friend and the
check you will get is from him. I will personally guarantee it, however if you
wish to wait for it to clear, I understand. Thanks!


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2280
  To: JASON BURKHART                           Date: 07/22/93  9:35a
Subj: Re: Texel                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Hey about that Texel drive. Are we thinking of the same
>>    drive???? If so it has the cables and a 16-bit controller???
>>    I'm just curious cause everywhere else I've checked into has
>>    offered a MUCH higher price. I'll be calling you pretty soon
>>    to order the drive. Later

Yep, same drive and yes they are brand new not refurbs !!

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2281
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93 12:32a
Subj: RED HOT CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX   PRICE - $15.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
   COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - -  24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO

Boris Osadciw

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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 2282
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/22/93  8:31a
Subj: Re: SHERLOCK HOLMES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EB>     800ms!  I bet that's it.  WAY to much info commin' down the pipes
EB> with this CD for an 800ms Drive.

        Well it has a sustained data throughput rate of 150k per second. I
gathered that would be the only meaningfull thing. But I have also tried it
with a CD disk cache and it still doesn't work!
                                                                        Edward

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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 2283
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 07/22/93  8:32a
Subj: SHERLOCK HOLMES                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CB> If you mean Consulting Detective #1, I ran it fine on an 800ms Hitachi
CB> (CDR2500).  There was a one second hesitation for every 20-30 seconds of
CB> full-motion color video, but it worked.  I was running the real disk, not
CB> a

        I was running it off a CD disk, so I guess the CD is screwed up from
the manufacturer. Oh well, that's okay though! Thanks for the info!
                                                                Edward

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2284
  To: ROBBIE WILKES                            Date: 07/21/93 11:22a
Subj: Lost address                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RW>Am looking for the fellow that I agreed to purchase the Digital Dreams CD 
  >from.  I have been awaiting my new set of checks, and can't find your 
  >number or address. 
 
If you can't find him, I have one used copy for sale for $20 plus $2.90 
shipping.  (205) 793-4481 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2285
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93 11:40a
Subj: New CD-Rom Prices                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Computer Works is now offering the following prices on these CD-Roms: 
 
Big Sky Rom             $48     Software Vault 2        $32 
Night Owl 9             $39     Monster Media 1         $39 
So Much Shareware 3     $39     Digital Dreams          $32 
CD Winbox               $29     NightWatch Interactive  $49 
Up All Night            $21     Shareware Studio 2      $26 
 
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales!      Visa & Mastercard Accepted 
(205) 793-4481 Voice    (205) 671-0092 BBS - Online Ordering 
 
                                                Jim... 
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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2286
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  3:02a
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed it.
Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
                   -TWITCH the Vorpal Bunny-


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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 2287
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/22/93  6:38p
Subj: Re: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> MW>I would like to order the owl-9 how I do that?...I like to save the
> MW>don't have a credit card?
> If you would like to pre-pay by check or money order, you can send it to
> our address below.
> Thanks,
> .\\ike
> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892
> (VOICE)
> VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over
Well, thanks for reply, but I am waiting to hear from someone who said he can
sell it for 25.00:)....I am sure you will understand...
Thanks anyways...

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From: DAVID BALNITES                         Number: 2288
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  2:32a
Subj: CD File Descriptions                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Forwarded from "CD-ROM Talk"
 * Originally by David Balnites
 * Originally to All
 * Originally dated 22 Jul 1993, 4:18

I am thinking of buying Night Owl 9 and i was wondering if there is a utility
that will convert the PCBoard type multi-line Descriptions into the new
RemoteAccess 2.00g1 type multi-line Descriptions.

I do know that the descriptions have to be all on 1 line to use the import
function with RA.

                        David



... (A)bort, (R)etry, (W)hackitonthesideofthemonitor!
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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 2289
  To: BRIAN COFFEY                             Date: 07/23/93  7:46a
Subj: ORDER REC'D                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Got the Ham CD yesterday.  The wife liked ProPhone so much, I had to
-> put a CD in her machine so she wouldn't be tying-up the BBS machine
-> all night!

Brian, just a note of warning about ProPhone. I've been using it for 
about 6 months and have found the search engine to be VERY buggy. Some 
towns in the database will not be found by name but can be found by zip 
code. There are also GAPING holes in the data for example it finds only 
two pawn shops in Phoenix. It is quite week data wise in California and 
Florida.

It is the best thing of its kind out there as long as you are aware of 
its short comings.

Just wish someone would produce a CD that does what ProPhone is 
advertised to do.

James
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2290
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/22/93  9:19a
Subj: Wish list                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>I need the most recent in shareware and a CD-ROM drive (preferably ne
JL>that is MPC Compliant and be 480ms or faster....

OK, Mitsumi is 350ms.....

Pier 2 is brand new,
Night Owl 9 is too,
Software Vault II,
all three for you,
and this ain't no jive,
your price J.P. is $75
add the Mitsumi drive
for another $175
So, for a mere $250
you get a combo that's nifty!

Pat

BTW, here's regular prices....

 PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                         PRICE

 MITSUMICDD CDD - Mitsumi CD-ROM drive                 189.00
 CDSMONSTER CDS - Monster Disc                          38.00
 MONSMED93I CDS - Monster Media '93, Vol. 1             35.00
 CDSNTOWLV9 CDS - Night Owl shareware CD, Version 9     39.00
 SOFTWAREV2 CDS - Software Vault II                     30.00
 PIERS2     CDS - The Pier Shareware CD-ROM #2          39.00
 UPALLNIGHT CDS - Up All Night                          29.00

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From: DAVE KALWISHKY                         Number: 2291
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/23/93 11:58a
Subj: Chestnut cd's...$10! 1/2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@>1:3407/101

DK>MS> 5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,
DK>  >    thesauruses, word-processors, style/syntax/spell checkers,
glossaries,
DK>  >    crossword solvers, foreign language tutors . . . on and on!

DK>MS>  ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
DK>  >  any Chestnut purchase!

Ok Mike, $10 is coming at ya!!

     -=> Dave <=-     Thu  07-22-1993


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From: BOB KELLY                              Number: 2292
  To: BENJAMIN KEEN                            Date: 07/21/93  5:38p
Subj: HERE WE ARE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BK> BK> TM>BK>SQ>    Cheers BBS in beautiful Cambridge, Ontario, Canada is
BK> BK> TM>BK>SQ>    proud to be carrying this echo !!
BK> BK>
BK> BK> TM>BK>And I'm so proud you told us about it...
BK> BK>
BK> BK> TM>And I'm so proud that you're so proud that Cheers told us
BK> BK> TM>about it!!!
BK> BK>
BK> BK> My pleasure! Anyone else out there proud about this?
BK>
BK>     I'm proud too!! I'm also proud that we have the same
BK>initials!!!

Who said what above?

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From: CHARLES HELD                           Number: 2293
  To: CHRISTIAN SMITH                          Date: 07/21/93  7:49p
Subj: Map cd                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I heard there is a CD that has every street in the US on it. IF anyone
>knows what it is can you tell me the cost of it.

    It is called Street Atlas USA.  Any of the dealers here should have it - I
have done business with Doug Carpenter and Mark Arbacchi (sp?) and had good
luck with them.
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From: STEVE PHILLIPS                         Number: 2294
  To: HENRY ARIAS                              Date: 07/22/93 10:22a
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks, I'll put the check in mail today.

My address is:

Steve Phillips
14608 Buckton Lane
Matthews, NC  28105

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 2295
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  5:22a
Subj: Soundblaster turn on?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone know the command to turn on the Soundblaster card so that you can
run audio through it like a CD or microphone?
someone posted a command to turn on the card without running an actual
program, but I did not write it down. Please repeat the post if you
still have it , or anone that knows it please leave a message.


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From: DUNCAN MARKLEY                         Number: 2296
  To: BRAD RILEY                               Date: 07/23/93  7:29a
Subj: Sell Me 2 CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BR > I am ready to buy now.
BR >  
BR > Please do one of the following:
BR >  
BR > 1. Fax me your bid at 816-746-4747
BR >            or
BR > 2. Netmail me at 1:280/23


Maybe we can come and set them up for you as well....
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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 2297
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 07/23/93  8:39a
Subj: CDROM_SALE                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> Good luck.

Thanx, Carlos.


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From: JOE SZAJEWSKI                          Number: 2298
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 07/22/93  6:22p
Subj: N OWL                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Jim Lambert to Michael Kanko dated 07-12-93 ***
> MK>Hi, does anyone here know about how much the new Night Owl 9 is? 
>  
> Anywhere from $29 to $49, depending on who you ask! ;)  Computer Works 
> will match all advertised prices.  Be sure to quote your source. 
>  
>                                                         Jim... 
> Computer Works 
> CD-Rom Sales! 
> (205) 793-4481 Voice 
> (205) 671-0092 BBS 

Jim,
    
    How are you on Hard Drives and the CD Rom drives themselves. ??
If I come up to your store from Kent County Delaware, how much to install the 
drives?  I have a 386 sx20 motherboard in a non table top case.  I'm looking
for a full load of simms for my empty extension board .... :)

                                            Questor
                                            Joe Szajewski
                                            Rd #2 Box 226a
                                            Harrington, DE 19952-1214
                                


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2299
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  1:16a
Subj: BUY 3 GET A POWERPAK FREE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          -------------* 3 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!! *--------------

               BUY THIS:                             GET THIS FREE:
  *-----------------------------------*       *--------------------------*
  |   ADULT 3-PAK SPECIAL:            |       |                          |
  |                                   |       |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0     |
  | 1.  ALL BEAUTIES (gif, fli, gl)   |       |     REVISED EDITION      |
  | 2.  HOT PIX 5                     |       |                          |
  | 3.  AMATEUR MODELS (gif, tiff)    |       |     650+MB OF GREAT      |
  |                         *-----*   |       |        SHAREWARE!        |
  *-------------------------| $89 |---*       *--------------------------*
                            *-----*

 Get the three newest and hottest adult CD's on the market for the super
 low price of only $89, and receive a PowerPak Gold 3.0 shareware CD
 absolutely free!  This offer is for a limited time only, so hurry!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: KEVIN OYAMA                            Number: 2300
  To: DAVID MCSPADDEN                          Date: 07/23/93  5:58a
Subj: CDWORLD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
Thanks for another speedy order filling!  Received my package two days after
you put it on the pony express - no problems on this end in Portland, Oregon.
Sorry, but I'll have to refer my friends to you as well - hope it won't make
you too busy!
 
KKO

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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 2301
  To: ELLEN COTTON                             Date: 07/23/93  4:43p
Subj: Re: Software sale/trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Yep, I still have Adobe Type Manager, and will set it aside for you.
Send money order to me at PO Box 11319, Kansas City, MO 64112-0319 and
I'll ship to you as soon as received. Thanks.

-hk
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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 2302
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/20/93 12:36a
Subj: Re: Starvector                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting BUBBA THERRIEN to MICHAEL KELLY <=-

 BT> Michael Kelly , what is your major Malfunction?????????

    I have no problem at all.

 BT> why do you pick apart the spelling in my messages for???????

    It annoys me to read illiterate messages posted in any echo.  Unless
    you are from Arkansas, there is simply no excuse.  I get tired of
    hearing "its just computers, i ain't needs to spel it rite!"  Most
    individuals that gravitate towards computers as a hobby are generally
    better educated and certainly more willing to learn than those who do
    not.  However, your posts are not helping sustain my theorem.

 BT> Is your life that boring????

    Not at all.  I travel the world, was a military officer who fought in
    the Gulf War and now work in the business world.  I find life rather
    exciting.

 BT> get a life dude.....

    I believe I already do.  "dude?"  Are you from the Left Coast by any
    chance?  The name "Bubba" must be a real topic of conversation out
    there at cocktail parties.


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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 2303
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/20/93  6:39a
Subj: BUBBA for sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting BUBBA THERRIEN to MICHEAL KELLY <=-

 BT> yes my spelling and grammer are all wrong..........who cares?

    Your parents, teachers and loved ones.  But more importantly, you should
    care!

 BT> the fact is you have nothing better to do than look at grammar?????

    Incorrect.  I look to the content of the message as well.  But when you
    have to stumble over the pathetic spelling and poor grammar, it may not
    be worth the trouble to grasp the theme of the message.

 BT> get a life man!

    My secret identity is that of "Politeness Man" as portrayed in
    National Lampoon magazine cartoons.  <g>


... He's got Blue Wave fever and it's spreading through the message bases!
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From: WILLIAM BYRD                           Number: 2304
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/23/93  7:29p
Subj: Busty Babes Volume 1 Release 3.0        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Lee,

  Just got your disk today via UPS.  Many thanks, as I was not expecting it.
Took a brief moment to check it out and must say that I'm very pleased with the
quality and material there.  Also the CD-ROM/Mouse Interface is much easier to
use and performs much better than the one on the disk piror to this.  Again
good job.

  The main reason for this message is to let all out there know that this disk
is certainly worth the wait we've endured for it.  I think once all have seen
it they'll agree that it is prehaps the best around to date.

Wm.  
 
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From: LOUIS SOKOL                            Number: 2305
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/24/93 12:26a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Could you explain what MPC and MM mean?  I see some CDs listed as either type. 
I would also like to know the difference between the various types of Groliers
Encyclopedias.  I guess that the one that is more expensive than the others is
multiple disks or has a bunch of extra features....thanks. 

Please send me a catalog also, if possible.  My company is JET Computer
Services, 3350 Highway 6, Suite 563; Sugar Land, TX 77478.
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From: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                      Number: 2306
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 07/23/93  4:39p
Subj: Re: TRADE ADULT CD FOR ADULT CD ?       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll give you money for the Volcano cd if you don't mind, cause I don't have
any other cd like that. Just tell me the price.
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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 2307
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/22/93 12:34a
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hiya, Michael!
On Jul 18, Michael Konor spake thusly to Sandeleh Francis @ 910/529:

 MK> I still have a couple left if you know anyone.

 MK> 205-837-5053

actually, i would like another one.  but i wonder if my toshiba 3401 could be
put into the external case you sell your 3201s in? i have to put more hardrive
in my "other" computer and that means no place insdie for the cd. it needs to
go external, but i'm not keen on on the price of the "box" by itself.  if i got
an external from you, could i take the 3201 out and put in my 3401?

if that would work, i'll take an external, if not then send me another
internal.   oh - fed ex didnt call before they arrived, so if you send me an
external drive, please give me a call with the price... 209 229-0473
looks like this echo is taking about 4 days to get from you to me, and fed ex
is a lot quicker than that.  :)

btw - it was a treat reading the want ads from your town - one alwyas hears
that the cost of living it high in calif and low in the south - well, your town
and mine seem to be pretty comparable on supermarket ads and rent.


\/\/ild_________
         |hing
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From: SULTAN QAMAR                           Number: 2308
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/22/93  4:00p
Subj: Pioneer                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
Was wondering if anyone wants to sell there Drm-600 ???  Can't afford new one,
so therefore used is prefered.
 
                                  Sultan
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 2309
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/22/93 12:45p
Subj: REVIEW OF "DIGITAL DREAMS               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC> Bob, I ask you to show me one adult CD-ROM that has an easier to use
DC> interface than Digital Dreams does, and more importantly, one that
DC> will autoconfigure to the users system, so that they don't have to
DC> sit there and run multiple programs (and eat up drive space) just to
DC> view the images.

   Hey Bob!

     I still appreciate the excellent *unbiased* reviews you've done.
Once you get the latest Busty (if you haven't already), let us know
what you think... I think the interface for Busty Babes Release 3.0 is
the best, period, and I've _made_ excellent interfaces for other discs.
Of course, I'm biased because I distribute it (and Erotek's Digital
Dreams), but I use much less bandwidth for my propaganda <g>!

     Vince
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 2310
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/22/93 12:54p
Subj: CD'S SHIPPING TO CANADA??               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> KR> When did you send off my order?  It'll be two weeks tomorrow,
-> still KR> haven't seen or heard of it... KR>  * Origin: We are Not
-> Saints, Calgary Alberta (403) 246-8669 (1:134/26)
-> Hmm I ordered some to. WIth us being in Canada.. that might be a
-> problem. Did you order adult cd's? Does anybody know what the border
-> guys do if they catch these?

Hi Chris! (I hope you're reading this too, Kirk!)

   Why don't you just order from us, here in Canada? Did you know that
30% of the adult discs in the market are actually pressed in Quebec?
Busty Babes & Southern Beauties are two I've got sitting in front of me
right now with MADE IN CANADA stickers on them. I can often get them
drop-shipped directly from the factory, without them crossing a single
international border. Plus, you can get anything I do get from the
states at prices similar to what you're already paying in the states
*WITHOUT* the delay, without the customs risk, and without the
postal/courier surcharges. For example, Hot Pix 3 is $40 Canadian, GST
Included, rather than $29.95 US (after 1.30 exchange & 7% GST becomes
$41 Canadian...sample price picked out of a "SUMMER SPECTACULAR BLOWOUT"
message I read in this echo today).

   Give us a call - you won't regret it!

   Vince
   306-789-4654 Voice
   306-789-8690 Fax
   306-789-8682 BBS

   Dealer inquiries invited!
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From: PETER CLAUSEN                          Number: 2311
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  5:23p
Subj: CDROM + Amiga 2000 + Zeus=? Yes or No   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I just receieved a Toshiba XM-3201B Drive from this echo.

I think the drive is fine, but can't get it to work on my Zeus equipped Amiga
2000.

The Zeus came with a startup-icon for removable media that one supposedly drops
into the start-up drawer (I'm running AmigaDos 2.1), but this does not help me
any.  Is this just for things like Syquests and the like?  Not CD's?

My SCSI Toolbox that came with my Zeus card does 'see' the Toshiba as one of
the SCSI devices attached to my controller.

So I guess I need to get Xetec's driver to make things work?

Anyone succesfully running this with a Zeus card?

I also have an ICD AdSCSI controller card.  Perhaps I can install it and run
the CD from him if the Zeus fails.

Anyone running Xetec's driver with an AdSCSI?

I also tried installing the Toshiba in my 486 equipped with a Buslogic BT-445S
SCSI controller, but alas, Buslogic's CDROM driver only support SCSI-II
devices.

As with my Amiga, the controller 'sees' the drive, but that's it.

The tech guy at Buslogic told me COREL SCSI might be the ticket.  Anyone have
any thoughts on this?

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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 2312
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  4:12p
Subj: Wanted: broken computer/e               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@SUBJECT:Wanted: Broken computer/electronic junk!                    N
 Wanted: Broken CD-roms, Disk drives, modems, Stero systems, monitors, TVs....
ect.

In the Monroe County area only, please.

        ******************************************
        * If intersted, write back and specify:  *
        *        1. Item (tv, vcr...)            *
        *        2. what's wrong with it         *
        *        3. your offer                   *
        *        4. name & address               *
        ******************************************

            Why throw it away when you could get $$$??


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From: BRAD RILEY                             Number: 2313
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/23/93 11:13p
Subj: Re: NighOwl 9                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> I was ready to buy it for 37.00...but them I hear someone said:it can be
> bough for 25.00 a piece..? Any true on that ???????????
 
On 23 July, Boris Osadciw  advertised  it for 25.00 But Mike Shannon <I Believe
was the name said in a message he would beat ALL prices advertised here by
5%...... 

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From: BRIAN POLAK                            Number: 2314
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 07/22/93 11:46p
Subj: Sf cd                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Mark,
        Can you tell me more about what is on this SF CD
                             SCI-FI FANTASY..................$19

                                                Thanks
                                                  Brian

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From: KEVIN DEW                              Number: 2315
  To: BRIAN COFFEY                             Date: 07/23/93 10:21p
Subj: order rec'd                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

/a


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From: JOSEPH THOMAS                          Number: 2316
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/24/93 11:47a
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in the Encyclopedia. Let me know. Tnx.


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2317
  To: BENJAMIN KEEN                            Date: 07/24/93  1:30a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    On 07-19-93, Boris Osadciw50ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36
>>    Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
>>------------------------------------

>>    What are the stats on that NEC? Do you have a Mac driver for
>>    it? I don't need a SCSI card, but I do need to know if it has
>>    two Centronics 50 (or DB-25) ports on the back. I heard the
>>    older portable NECs had only one SCSI port on the back. If you
>>    have any other external SCSI drives (new or used) let me know.

Ben, I'd have to look to see if we have the MAC drivers. As for the cable,
yes we have them.

Regarding the scsi port, these units have a single port on them for input.
They are MPC compliant, offer 450ms access time with a 150kps transfer
rate. They come with the full factory warranty and are caddless.

If you need further assistance, please call us at 216-225-3263 and we'll
be happy to assist you further as we have other drives as well.

Boris Osadciw

... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2318
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  1:30a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: PHILIP S ELROD                         Number: 2319
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/21/93  9:27p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Eric,
Do you know of any cd rom drives(internal) for sale under $199
if so respond back
                             Thanx
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From: CHAD NEWMAN                            Number: 2320
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/05/93 10:31a
Subj: Trade for Adult CD                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

I would like to trade "Cream of the Crop" Shareware CD (valued at $39.00) for
an Adult CD.  I have a few other games I'm willing to through in for the trade.
If you are interested you can contact me via NETMAIL FIDO 1:3400/44 or call
voice after 5:30pm MST at (406) 549-5473, leave me a message in this echo area
or write me at 2075 Cooper ST Apt#633, Missoula, MT 59802.

Chad

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From: CHAD NEWMAN                            Number: 2321
  To: HOWARD MALKIEL                           Date: 07/05/93 10:38a
Subj: Cd rom discs to trade                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Howard!

02 Jul 93 20:13, Patrick Shen wrote to Howard Malkiel:


 >> Hi everyone. I have a couple of XXX CD's that I would be
 >> willing to trade.
 >> - Asian Ladies - Pretty new disc, only used 3-4 times.

Howard I know you probalably won't go for this but it's worth a try:  would you
be willing to trade for "Cream of the Crop" Shareware CD?  If so leave me a
message here or send NETMAIL to 1:3400/44.

Chad

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 2322
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 07/23/93 12:06p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ryan, I am sorry to say that the 7th Guest game was sold on Monday. I hope that
you are not too disappionted. It looks like the lag in Net-Mail kept you from
seeing the SOLD post in time. I know that Brian Stark at 1:290/8 said that he
also had the game and was willing to trade. Maybe you can still work a deal
with him. Let me know if you want me to rip up the check or send it back.

Michael



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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2323
  To: MIKE PETRO                               Date: 07/23/93 11:44a
Subj: Re: NEW CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <07-20-93 20:09> Mike Petro wrote:

MP>> I just bought that CD from Mike Shannon. Please let me know
MP>> when the book becomes available and how to get a copy. Thanks.

Heard today the graphics people are up to the L's so far--I will announce the
book availability here or take my number (904)789-2377 and check back with us
on about 45 days or so--Those clips that didin't print well are being thrown
out--So we have been told the disc will lose about 25% of the PCX that it has
now--

Thanks for the inquiry !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2324
  To: PAUL RABINOWITZ                          Date: 07/22/93  8:40a
Subj: SHAREWARE CD-ROM                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PR>I am looking for a new shareware cd-rom disk with some GOOD files on it... 
PR>CAN ANYONE HELP??? 
 
Hi Paul.  I recommend the following recent shareware discs, and 
currently have them in stock. 
 
Big Sky ROM     Night Owl 9     So Much Shareware 3     Software Vault 2 
 
All four are very popular CD-Roms.  If interested give me a call. 
Thanks! 
 
Computer Works                                  Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card and COD orders. 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2325
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 07/21/93  1:54p
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PD>You do not offer the lowest price on Night Owl 9 as your ad states. 
 
You don't know that unless you ask, now do you?  There are several of us 
including Mike that will match any price when you can quote a legitimate 
advertiser. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 2326
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/23/93 11:58p
Subj: PRECISION MAPPING IS HERE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> TITLE:  Precision Mapping

Mike,  some questions about this CD.

I need a program that will do what Auto Map does. Take a starting and 
ending point with several stops along the way and make me a map and a 
listing of the roads and mileages.

I need it to allow me to draw a straight line between any two towns and 
allow me to print a distance line with straight line mileage listed.

I need to be able to draw an 80 mile circle around an town and print a 
map. I'd like to be able to automatically list the towns within the 
circle also.


How does this cd rate on that scale.

Thanks

James
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2327
  To: EDWARD CROUSER                           Date: 07/24/93  3:33p
Subj: Re: SHERLOCK HOLMES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> Well it has a sustained data throughput rate of 150k per second. I
>> gathered that would be the only meaningfull thing. But I have also tried
>> it with a CD disk cache and it still doesn't work!

    That is the important thing.  I think it needs about 250k, although I
am not sure.  CD cache will not help in this case of real time
multimedia.

Eric


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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 2328
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 07/24/93  9:55a
Subj: Re: Starvector                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->
->  BT> why do you pick apart the spelling in my messages for???????
->
->     It annoys me to read illiterate messages posted in any echo.  Unl
->     you are from Arkansas, there is simply no excuse.  I get tired of
->     hearing "its just computers, i ain't needs to spel it rite!"  Mos
->     individuals that gravitate towards computers as a hobby are gener
->     better educated and certainly more willing to learn than those wh
->     not.  However, your posts are not helping sustain my theorem.
->
->  BT> Is your life that boring????
->
->     Not at all.  I travel the world, was a military officer who fough
->     the Gulf War and now work in the business world.  I find life rat
->     exciting.
->
->  BT> get a life dude.....
->
->     I believe I already do.  "dude?"  Are you from the Left Coast by
->     chance?  The name "Bubba" must be a real topic of conversation ou
->     there at cocktail parties.


Who made you god???  and if you don't like my spelling , then don't read
it......people like you start world conflicts...< my way or die
attitude> ............
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2329
  To: KEITH RITCHIE                            Date: 07/23/93 11:48a
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 KR> I just got the Winbox Cd from Starvector and I am having a bear   
 KR> time getting it to work. It keeps lookingg for a Project1 file t  
                                                                       
  
The Windows interface on the CD has a bug in it. Call their BBS and d/l 
the corrected version. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2330
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/24/93  6:53a
Subj: Busty Babes Rel. 3                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Lee:

Just a short note for now saying that BB3 has arrived safe and sound.
Since my lovely wife has planned the "Mother of All Garage Sales" for
this weekend, it'll be a few days before I can really scrutinize it. I
did take a quick peek at Showoff and it looks very interesting. Thanks
for the opportunity to review it.  Ciao!

... BEWARE - Tagline Thief in this echo
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2331
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/24/93  6:56a
Subj: Re: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    1/2           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS>             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

 DC> Hogwash.


Doug:

P-L-E-A-S-E don't start another one of those silly debates over who has
the "very lowest" prices. Just run your ads and be kind to your
customers. (Pretty Please???)

... QWK? I don't need no stinkin' QWK packet!
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2332
  To: BOB KELLY                                Date: 07/25/93 11:14a
Subj: HERE WE ARE                             Refer: 5737
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> BK> BK> TM>BK>SQ>    Cheers BBS in beautiful Cambridge, Ontario, Cana
-> BK> BK> TM>BK>SQ>    proud to be carrying this echo !!
-> BK> BK>
-> BK> BK> TM>BK>And I'm so proud you told us about it...
-> BK> BK>
-> BK> BK> TM>And I'm so proud that you're so proud that Cheers told us
-> BK> BK> TM>about it!!!
-> BK> BK>
-> BK> BK> My pleasure! Anyone else out there proud about this?
-> BK>
-> BK>     I'm proud too!! I'm also proud that we have the same
-> BK>initials!!!
->
-> Who said what above?

OK, we're all proud... Please end this thread.

tim
moderator
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2333
  To: WILLIAM BYRD                             Date: 07/24/93 11:02a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Volume 1 Release 3.0    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <07-23-93 19:29> William Byrd wrote:

WB>>   Just got your disk today via UPS.  Many thanks, as I was not
WB>> expecting it. Took a brief moment to check it out and must say that
WB>> I'm very pleased with the quality and material there.  Also the
WB>> CD-ROM/Mouse Interface is much easier to use and performs much better
WB>> than the one on the disk piror to this.  Again good job.

Thank-you William for sending us the original scans that we were able to use
enabling us to remove most all the "T.I.T.S." BBS altered ones--We don't forget
those that helped us get back on our feet again. We salute you !

Knew the "SHOWOFF" interface was going to make this CD alot of fun, and a
breeze to manipulate--Now we have to sit back and see how Bob Jackson reviews
it :)

Take Care !!

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2334
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/24/93 11:07a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes, before 3.0.            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Boris Osadciw <07-22-93 11:45> Bob Jackson wrote:
BJ>>

BJ>> Are you saying that you still stock the *ORIGINAL*  Rel 1.0 BB?

I doubt it, I am sure he has 2.0--The 1.0's are real scarce and I have had
dealers trying to find them for their own collection--

Release 1.0---Has no text stories  (Pressed in Nov 92) only 3,000 copies
Release 2.0---Has the text stories (pressed in Jan 93) only 5,000 copies
Release 3.0---Has 3.0 written on the cover and has SHOWOFF interface.

PS--Sent you the new release overnight and am real curious to how you
    liked the new image interface ???

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 2335
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  5:34p
Subj: Grolier's 1992 CD encyclopedia          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia V5.0 CD.  This is the
entire 1992 Grolier's Academic American Encyclopedia with 3,000 pictures, over
250 maps, over 50 video clips, and over 30 minutes of sounds.  It includes the
docs and registration card.  Asking $45 plus shipping....if interested, please
e-mail me here or contact me in the evening or weekends at the number in the
tagline....thanks !!
 
... Voice: 919-870-6926 or Prodigy: CJBM15A
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From: MATT SMITH                             Number: 2336
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/22/93 10:28a
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Let's drop that price a little then we'll talk...


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From: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                       Number: 2337
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/24/93 12:04p
Subj: Bottom Line Pricing                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Doug!

In a message to All <07/22/93> Doug Carpenter wrote:

DC> PCJ also stocks most of what we sell.  We can generally get anything we h
DC> advertised if not in stock within 3-4 business days to ship.  So, go ahea
DC> get your price, then call Starvector and get your 5% off price, then call
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                          This would cost more than your 1%
                          savings.  1% of $25 is $0.25, the phone
                          call could cost $1-$2.

DC> back, and we will give you an additional 1% off of the Starvector price o
DC> items that are normally priced and not specials or closeouts.  PCJ tries
DC> best to be your low price leader to save you money wherever possible.

Why not just say you will beat any advertised price by 6%.

 * WCE 1.10/2020 * Thesaurus: ancient reptile with an excellent vocabulary.


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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 2338
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93 12:56p
Subj: OS/2 CDROM drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        I'm looking to buy a OS/2 2.1 compatible CDROM drive. It doesn't
 matter whether it's internal or external, buy I'd really prefer a caddy
 drive. Or at least one that is automatic. The one I use right now is
 horrible for switching CDs! Of course, I'd like it to be a bit
 fast <= 350ms. Please, let me know if anyone has one for sale. If you
 can get me a good price, I'll buy it in a second!
                                                        Edward

... REAL programmers use: "COPY CON FILENAME.EXE"
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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 2339
  To: TONY MACE                                Date: 07/23/93 12:56p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM DRIVE WANTED                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Tony Mace to All <=-

 TM> Am looking for a Tandy CDR-1000.  If you have one, please leave
 TM> message here  or call me 308-487-5378 after 3pm mtn time.
 TM> This drive is wanted ASAP!
 TM> Tony

        How much? I have one I might be willing to sell.
                                                                Edward


... "Hillary, where's my college yearbook, I need more staff"
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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 2340
  To: DENNIS STERNER                           Date: 07/23/93 12:56p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMS FOR SALE                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DS> I have the following CD-ROM discs for sale:
 DS> 1.  Compton's Family Encyclopedia - $30
 DS> Shipping is additional.  Leave message here or call 717-637-2972.

        I'm intrested in Compton's. My BBS number is 304-768-3682. How
 much would it costs for overnight shipping COD?
                                                        Edward

... Sacrifice, YES - Socialism, NO
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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 2341
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/23/93 12:56p
Subj: Re: SHERLOCK HOLMES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Eric Bravick to Sam Figueroa <=-
 EB> It needs a 350 ms or better to look and sound smooth.

        I have a demo of it that keeps crashing. My CDROM drive is
 800ms and I thought that was probably the cause.
                                                                        Edward


... First, it was Hillary.  Then Gennifer.  Now, it's us!
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 2342
  To: KEITH RITCHIE                            Date: 07/23/93  7:53a
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KR> I just got the Winbox Cd from Starvector and I am having a bear of a time 
KR>getting it to work. It keeps lookingg for a Project1 file that is nowhere to

KR>be found. I checked the power.cfg file and it has the correct info. Help...
i 
KR>seems like a good CD from the Dir listing but it is worthless if you can't 
KR>access it. 
KR>                       Thanks, Keith 
 
KR>--- GEcho 1.00+ 
KR>* Origin: Dollar Saver BBS   410-360-0640   Pasadena Md  USA (1:261/1128) 
 
There was a bug in the original version.  You can freq the "fix" file from us
as 
"WBOXFIX.ZIP" at 1:161/205.  Sorry for the problems - the disk isn't exactly 
worthless w/o the front end, wouldn't you agree?  :> 
 
TTYSoon, 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
 
 
 * OLX 2.1 TD * The NEGOTIATOR has SPOKEN! (510)830-5043 1:161/205 
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From: HENRY ARIAS                            Number: 2343
  To: STEVE PHILLIPS                           Date: 07/24/93 10:43p
Subj: For Sale`                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        I just sent out your CD-ROM today, July 24th from the post office 
at the Tampa Airport. I mailed it priority mail, so you should have it in 
about three days..... Thanks ... Henry

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From: BRAD RILEY                             Number: 2344
  To: DUNCAN MARKLEY                           Date: 07/24/93 10:08p
Subj: Sell Me 2 CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DM>BR > I am ready to buy now.
DM>BR >
DM>BR > Please do one of the following:
DM>BR >
DM>BR > 1. Fax me your bid at 816-746-4747
DM>BR >            or
DM>BR > 2. Netmail me at 1:280/23


DM>Maybe we can come and set them up for you as well....

I want the best on the market for my users.  That's what they pay for.  I
guess that a smart-aleck comment like that shows your inability to deal with
someone on a professional business level.  But that's ok, don't get me wrong.
If it weren't for imature people, we wouldn't have anyone to laugh at would
we?  Have a great day....

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From: BRAD RILEY                             Number: 2345
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/24/93 10:22p
Subj: Re: RED HOT CD'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I must say, Boris, that you are good to deal with and have fair prices. I
bought my rom and a disk from you and had a little trouble setting it up but
you helped me out over the phone.  Have a great day from KC Mo 

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2346
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/24/93  5:17a
Subj: Re: NighOwl 9                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 19 Jul 93  17:03:00, I heard Manny Wise shout to All:

MW> I was ready to buy it for 37.00...but them I hear someone said:it can be bo
MW> for 25.00 a piece..? Any true on that ??????????? 
MW> 

Manny,

  Yes, it is.  Free Spirit software has them for $ 25.00.


     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!


             
               Call Free Spirit And ask for Roc!
                      ******************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.
        **************
        .....|<evin

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2347
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  5:18a
Subj: Night Owl 9 for $25                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!


             
               Call Free Spirit And ask for Roc!
                      ******************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.

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From: CHRIS MORGAN                           Number: 2348
  To: MARK STEIGER                             Date: 07/24/93  5:47p
Subj: interface card                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well, I don't own one but the Sound Blaster 16 has one on it.

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From: CHRIS MORGAN                           Number: 2349
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  5:57p
Subj: CD-Rom Sound Card                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a CD-Rom and Soundcard package.  I have seen the Fusion CD
package but am looking for a used one.

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 2350
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/24/93  4:28p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Israel,

Answering a msg of <24 Jul 93>, from Israel Gomberg to All:

I would be willing to make that trade.  Give me a call at the bellow # and we
can talk.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2351
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 07/24/93  1:11a
Subj: Trade adult CD for Adult                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KP>   I have the Adult CD Volcano, and would like to trade it for another adult
KP>cd, If interested, Please let me know.

I'll trade you a Physical Therapy or a Storm 1 for it.  Give me a shout if
interested.

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2352
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/24/93  1:11a
Subj: Libel                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>you to send yours in return.  Instead you shipped mine back.  In as much,
you
MB>caused me to lose a total of $2.90.  Since you did so after the deal had
been
                                ^^^^^^
Geez, I'LL send you the three bucks if you'll just stuff a sock in it!
      ^^^^

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2353
  To: KEITH RITCHIE                            Date: 07/24/93  1:11a
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KR> I just got the Winbox Cd from Starvector and I am having a bear of a time
KR>getting it to work. It keeps lookingg for a Project1 file that is nowhere to
KR>found. I checked the power.cfg file and it has the correct info. Help... it
KR>seems like a good CD from the Dir listing but it is worthless if you can't
KR>access it.

Keith,

Sorry, I goofed.  The fix for this IS on my board at 509-457-0206.  I had
it in a file area called "GENERAL", which requires level 15 access.  Since
you hadn't gone through the verification, your access level was only 10.
I've moved the file, called "WBOXFIX.ZIP" to the CD-ROM area, where you
can now download it.  I've also bumped your access level to 15.

Again, sorry you had to make a call for nothing.  ):

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2354
  To: BRAD RILEY                               Date: 07/24/93  1:11a
Subj: Sell Me 2 CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BR>I want the latest and hottest Adult CD.  I want info on dupes and types of
BR>files and price.

We have two brand new ones:  Southern Beauties and Amateur Models, both of
which **I believe** are all original scans.  $35 ea. or both for $69.

BR>I want the latest and best Shareware Disc.  No old files and latest version
o
BR>files, not 6 versions of the same files.  I believe you get what you pay for
BR>and I want the latest and best.

Try either Night Owl 9, Software Vault 2, So Much Shareware 3, or Pier 2.
These are the latest and greatest.  Get your best price and call us.

Give me a ring and we can discuss further!

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2355
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 07/24/93  1:11a
Subj: cd's shipping to canada??               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KR>My CDs arrived from Starvector today, two and a half weeks after
KR>ordering.  I found out what the delay was, customs indeed had opened
KR>them up, probably somebody copied them as even the CDs themselves were
KR>no longer wrapped.

Wow, no kidding?  I'm going to have to start using Kryptonite boxes I
guess.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2356
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  1:11a
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!      1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
                                pg. 1 of 2

   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

TITLES INCLUDE:

1. THE COMPLETE BOOKSHOP - An entire bookshop on CD! Includes classics,
   poetry, humor, cookbooks, American history and founding documents, novels,
   short stories, home improvement guides, computer tutors, and more!

2. WINDOWARE - An excellent disc packed with tons of useful programs for
   Windows 3.0 and 3.1, including typefonts, font installers, games, home
   and business applications, education, wallpaper, utilities, etc.

3. SOUND SENSATIONS! - Adds multimedia excitement to your system!  Includes
   tons of sound effects, music files, jukeboxes, voices, sound clips,
   music voices, etc. in a variety of file formats.

4. TECHNOTOOLS - A programmer's dream disc! Routines, utilities, debuggers,
   troubleshooters, and other programming tools for C/C++, dBase, Clipper,
   Basic, Assembler, AI, Unix, OS/2, Pascal, Forth, and more!

5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,
   thesauruses, word-processors, style/syntax/spell checkers, glossaries,
   crossword solvers, foreign language tutors . . . on and on!

6. DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLES - Exciting arcade action games: Space wars,
   shoot-em-ups, auto racing, sports, casino gambling, horse and auto
   racing, and more. The fast action will entertain you for years!

7. TOO MANY TYPEFONTS! - Countless typefonts in all formats:  TrueType,
   ATM, Adobe Type 1, WFN, First Publisher, Ghostscript, HPL, etc. Also
   includes typeface modifiers, font managers, downloaders, & utilities.

 ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  So Much Shareware 3 only
 $25 with any Chestnut purchase!

            >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2357
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  1:11a
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!      2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
                                pg. 2 of 2

   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

TITLES INCLUDE:

8.  CLIPART GOLIATH - Over 10,000 image files in PCX and TIF formats, plus
    some in color-TIF/PCX, MAC, GIF, etc. Files can be imported to virtually
    every desktop publishing program! Subjects include: Americana, Animals,
    Business, Computing, Entertainment, Food, Holiday, Music, People,
    Religion, Science & Medicine, Signs, Sports, Cartoons, & many more.

9.  HAM RADIO 3.0 - Excellent collection of HAM and SWL programs and data!
    Includes packet radio, satellite communications, frequency lists,
    equipment service, design, mods, logging, news, FAX, FCC, & others.

10. COLOSSAL COOKBOOK - Over 4000 recipes, far more than the "Joy of
    Cooking".  Includes excellent recipe cross-reference and search!
    Includes health/nutrition guides, ethnic and regional recipes, meal
    planning, low-cholesterol diets, cooking instructions, & more!

11. BIBLES & RELIGION - All popular New & Old Testament versions, Book of
    Mormon, Talmud portions, lexicons & concordances, study guides,
    organization membership & fund-raising programs, etc.

12. SHAREWARE OVERLOAD - Over 6100 programs (550mb compressed) for all
    applications, with an emphasis on games and Windows programs.  Subjects
    include business, clipart, communications, BBS, database, education,
    finance, games, graphics, religion, sound, utilities, Windows, & more!

13. OUR SOLAR SYSTEM - Exciting NASA and observatory photos of the planets,
    moons, comets, earth, and celestial phenomena!  Includes star locators,
    planetarium programs, astronomical data, voyage simulators, + tons more.

 ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
 any Chestnut purchase!

            >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2358
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 07/24/93  1:11a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG> PN> >   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of
MG> PN> popular Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!
MG> PN> Mike, I faxed you an order tonight for 2 $10 CD's (ClipArt Goliath,
MG> PN> OUR SOLAR SYSTEM ).

MG> Hello Paul.  Well Mike really pulled one off this time.  I just purchased
MG> the exact same CDs, and they arrived Tuesday.  What a GREAT collection &

Max,

Glad you got your stuff OK.  Ring me up if you need anything else.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 2359
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  6:23p
Subj: USED CD'S                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I just got back from doing a show, have lots of CD's that were shown at
the computer/CDROM show.  Have some for 10.00 up.  Gimme a call at
405-672-1708.  Will not post list, but please call.

BOB
:-)

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From: RICH JACKSON                           Number: 2360
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/24/93 12:57a
Subj: Libel                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > good, little else matters.  Have a good day Terry.  Finis

'Bout Time...

BTW, How them THREE Kids doin??  You been claiming them on your taxes???

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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 2361
  To: PHILIP S ELROD                           Date: 07/24/93 10:05p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Eric,
-> Do you know of any cd rom drives(internal) for sale under $199
-> if so respond back
->                              Thanx
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 call groupware   mitsumi internals $175.00
206-472-1400
bubba
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2362
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/24/93  1:57p
Subj: Re: NighOwl 9                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I was ready to buy it for 37.00...but them I hear someone
>>    said:it can be bough for 25.00 a piece..? Any true on that
>>    ???????????

Yep and IN STOCK !! Call us at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be glad
to help you out.

Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2363
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  1:57p
Subj: CD SPECIALS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Officers Bookcase       Canadian Shareware
Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
Chicano Datebase          PC-SIG Games            LaserTax On CD
Phoenix # 3               Jokes&Pranks            Learning Adventure
Business Assistant        World Travler           Sound Sensation
DeathStar Arcade          Colossal CookBook       ClipArt Goliath
Technotools               Our Solar System        Windoware

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

***********************************************************************



Boris Osadciw

... Xpress Yourself!
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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 2364
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  4:08p
Subj: Night Owls 9                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can anybody match a legitamate ad for night owls 9 of $29 ??  If so
please tell me the soonest you could send it to me in VA...I had ordered
one about 14 days ago and it still hasn't arrived so I called and
cancled the damn thing...I need it as fast as possible...

J.P.
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From: DAVID PATTERSON                        Number: 2365
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/23/93  7:18p
Subj: CDROM_SALE Antics                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>for a CD-ROM, Terry Woodward failed to complete the trade
MB>as agreed.  I posted messages to him requesting he rectify
MB>the situation, he responded with a tirade of name calling
MB>in response to each of my messages, and mailed my disk
MB>back,

WHAT! He send your disk BACK! So...you are out some postage?
Why has the whole world had to read or skip through this junk
because of a dollar or 2 ?
PLEASE give everyone a break.
Thanks

Dave P.
___
 * SLMR 2.0 * ESPER Computer Systems, Ft.McMurray, AB CAN (403)791-2200

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 2366
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 07/24/93  8:29a
Subj: cd's shipping to canada????!!!          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 KR> None of the titles I ordered were adult.  From what I understand, it
 KR> usually takes a week or so.  It's been over two so far...

 Well, I was fourtunate enough to get them on Wen. Supproisingly the
 package was not even opened at the border! Just under 2 weeks.

 KR> What's the weather up there like these days?  You gettin nothing but
 KR> rain?

Horrible, rained all summer so far. But yesterday evening it cleasred up and
this morning it is actuallt SUNNY! My gosh, Its sunny on a weekend? Something
must be wrong here... 8-)

CJK

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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 2367
  To: VINCENT KAYE                             Date: 07/23/93  4:18p
Subj: Re: nightowl 9                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Now back to busines...How much for NightOwl's 9.0?
> Thanks, good "old" buddy...:)...
I just got it for 25.00..from 1-800-638-5757....5.00 shipping though...

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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 2368
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/24/93  9:42a
Subj: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600 Master
-> Visa accepted. Posted on 07/20/93, @ 08:12.
->
->  PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                         PRICE
->
->  ADULTREFER CDX - Adult Reference Library               23.00
->  ADVENTURES CDX - Adventures of Buttman (MAC)           48.00
->  AFTERDARK  CDX - After Dark Trilogy                    37.00
->  ALLBEAUTIE CDX - All Beauties                          26.00
->  AMATEURMOD CDX - Amateur Models                        30.00
->  ANIMFANTI  CDX - Animation Fantasies I                 30.00
->  ANIMFANTII CDX - Animation Fantasies II                30.00
->  ASIANLADIE CDX - Asian Ladies                          30.00
->  BUSTYBABES CDX - Busty Babes                           30.00
->  DEEPTHROAT CDX - Deep Throat, The Movie (Digitized)    45.00
->  DIGITALDRE CDX - Digital Dreams                        27.00
->  DIRTYTALK  CDX - Dirty Talk                            41.00
->  ECSTASY    CDX - Ecstasy                               30.00
->  EROTICENCO CDX - Erotic Encounters                     30.00
->  EXOTICGIRL CDX - Exotic Girls                          27.00
->  FAO        CDX - FAO (For Adults Only)                 26.00
->  FOXES      CDX - Foxes                                 29.00
->  GIFFYGOLD  CDX - Giffy Gold                            30.00
->  HAWAII     CDX - Hawaii CD                             23.00
->  HIDDENOBSE CDX - Hidden Obsessions                     50.00
->  HOTPIX2    CDX - Hot Pix 2                             24.00
->  HOTPIX3    CDX - Hot Pix 3                             24.00
->  HOTPIX4    CDX - Hot Pix 4                             24.00
->  HOUSEOFSLE CDX - House of Sleeping Beauties            43.00
->  ISLANDGIRL CDX - Island Girls                          22.00
->  LOCALGIRLS CDX - Local Girls                           22.00
->  MOVINGFANT CDX - Moving Fantasies                      30.00
->  MYPRIVATE1 CDX - My Private Collection 1               30.00
->  MYPRIVATE2 CDX - My Private Collection 2               30.00
->  NIGHTWATCH CDX - Nightwatch Interactive                46.00
->  PCPIX1     CDX - PC PIX 1                              30.00
->  PCPIX2     CDX - PC PIX 2                              30.00
->  PCPIX3     CDX - PC PIX 3                              30.00
->  PHYSICALTH CDX - Physical Therapy                      34.00
->  PORKWARE1  CDX - Porkware I                            30.00
->  PORKWARE2  CDX - Porkware II                           30.00
->  PRIVATEPI1 CDX - Private Pictures I                    30.00
->  RIMFIREPAC CDX - Rimfire Pacific Video                 37.00
->  SEEDYMOVIE CDX - Seedy Movies                          37.00
->  7THHEAVEN  CDX - Seventh Heaven                        34.00
->  SMUTWARE   CDX - Smutware                              23.00
->  SOMUCHSTAR CDX - So Much Stareware                     30.00
->  STORM1     CDX - Storm I                               23.00
->  STORM2     CDX - Storm II                              23.00
->  STORM3     CDX - Storm III                             23.00
->  SWIMWEAR&M CDX - Swimwear & More                       32.00
->  TROPICALGI CDX - Tropical Girls                        27.00
->  VISUALFANT CDX - Visual Fantasies                      30.00
->  VOLCANO    CDX - Volcano                               33.00
->  WICKEDPDOS CDX - Wicked Photo CD DOS                   48.00
->  WICKEDPWIN CDX - Wicked Photo CD Windows               48.00
->
-> Prices & spec's subject to change without notice. Best time to call:
-> 9-12 PM Mon - Fri, all day Sat & Sun (EASTERN)
->
-> ===
->  * RM 1.0 00391 * See complete product lists in the FOR SALE Conferen
->
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->
Do you have the cd of teri Weigel pics?

I've seen it advertised in the back of pc computing


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From: JESS LEWIS                             Number: 2369
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  9:42a
Subj: re: cdrom drive                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a cdrom for under 200$ if you know of one let me know please.

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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 2370
  To: BRIAN POLAK                              Date: 07/24/93 11:22a
Subj: Sf cd                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Brian!

In a message to Mark Abbacchi <07/22/93> Brian Polak wrote:

BP> Hi Mark,
BP>         Can you tell me more about what is on this SF CD
BP>                              SCI-FI FANTASY..................$19

BP>                                                 Thanks
BP>                                                   Brian

1200+ VGA photos 100+ sound files, all of Star Trek, The Next
Generation, Star Wars, Fantasy files like Conan, Dungeons and Dragons,
and SCI FI creatures.  Star Trek Games, and Articles also included.
VERY popular with the trekky boards.

Mark

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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 2371
  To: JOSEPH THOMAS                            Date: 07/25/93  4:33p
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the message on the encyclopedia. I've had one other person
contact me on it, and I left them a message back. If they decide not to
take the CD, I'll drop you a note again to see if you want it.

-hk
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From: DUANE A. FLOYD                         Number: 2372
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/24/93  9:49p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Could you please send a catalog to me???!!!

My address is:

Duane Floyd
1266 Holly Oak Drive
Randleman, NC 27317

Thanks in advance...

C-Ya

Duane "|> affy" Floyd

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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 2373
  To: KEVIN OYAMA                              Date: 07/25/93 12:55a
Subj: CDWORLD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Kevin,
 Allways try to do my best, Have a good one and thanks for the kind
words.

 David McSpadden CD-WORLD


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2374
  To: BOB HAY                                  Date: 07/24/93  7:24a
Subj: E & M Disk                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BH>I am looking for someone who has the Electricity and
BH>Magnetism CD-ROM.  Pricing and ordering information

I can't help you, but as an astrophysics major I'm interested in what this
might be.  What is it?

 * SLMR 2.1 * 

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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 2375
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93 12:27p
Subj: Jem Disk Trade-In Special               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Did you ever purchase a CD-Rom disc only to find it didn't meet your needs at
all?  You know the one, all it does is sit on the shelf behind old Computer
books and empty Coke cans collecting dust!

Well here's your chance to TRADE it in and get a shiny new copy of Jem Disc
instead at very little cost to you.  Jem Disc was a hot seller last year and
it's file collection stands the test of time (especially if your a sysop). 
There's over 500MB of great files in 59 categories.  The disc contains
FILES.BBS support and there is a plug & play ROMbrain database available.

For a limited time if you send us an unwanted computer CD-Rom disc and just
$14.95 we'll ship you a copy of Jem Disc!  Shipping & Handling is free.

FREQ the magic name JEMTRADE from 1:203/49 or call 916-921-9949 and download
the files from my logon matrix (enter JEM at the prompt).

(If you are interested in ordering Jem Disc but have nothing to trade FREQ the
file JEMDISC instead - the price is $19.95 plus S&H).


Thanks!

Michael Crosson
Jewel Distributing



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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 2376
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93 12:37p
Subj: Jem Disc Descriptions                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Just a quick note to Jem Disc customers -

The latest Jem Disc FILES.BBS descriptions are available as JEMFILES.ZIP. As
time permits I improve and enhance them so it's worth your while to FREQ them
every so often.

Many of you will be happy to know that I recently finished describing ALL 700+
.GIF files in great detail.

FREQ JEMFILES.ZIP from 1:203/49 at v.32bis speeds (about 250k) or call
916-921-9949 and download them from my logon matrix (enter JEM).

Thanks! - Michael Crosson

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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2377
  To: PHILIP S ELROD                           Date: 07/25/93  2:06p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> Do you know of any cd rom drives(internal) for sale under $199

    Mitsumi's sell for about $190 new from any of the big mail order
places, Midwest, DC, Computability.  Look 'em up in the Computer Shopper.

Eric


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From: JIM HILGEFORD                          Number: 2378
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93  5:02p
Subj: Re: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    1/2           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (24 Jul 93) Bob Jackson wrote to Doug Carpenter...

 BJ>  MS>             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<
 BJ> 
 BJ>  DC> Hogwash.
 BJ> 
 BJ> 
 BJ> Doug:
 BJ> 
 BJ> P-L-E-A-S-E don't start another one of those silly debates over who
 BJ> has
 BJ> the "very lowest" prices. Just run your ads and be kind to your
 BJ> customers. (Pretty Please???)
 BJ> 
BJ>  * Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 | 
 BJ> (1:106/30.0)
 BJ> 209/209
 BJ> 10 12 19
        I am interested in Purchasing CD-Rom for Education. 
        Do you have anything Like Barney Bear, Arthur Goes to School
        Or Grandma and Me?
        I Would appreciate any info you can send my way.


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From: JIM HILGEFORD                          Number: 2379
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93  5:08p
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!      1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (24 Jul 93) Mike Shannon wrote to All...

 MS>              *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
 MS>                                 pg. 1 of 2
 MS> 
 MS>    For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of
 MS> popular
 MS>                    Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!
 MS> 
 MS> TITLES INCLUDE:
 MS> 
        I am interested in Educational CD-Rom's.
        Example Barney Bear, Arthur Goes to School, Grandma & Me.
        Do you have anything along these lines. Appreciate
        any help I can get.


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2380
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/25/93 12:34a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC> MS>             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

DC>Hogwash.

Hogwash?  Boy, there's a term I haven't heard in a while.  Like I said
Doug, you're certainly welcome to "call my bluff" any time you see fit.
If it IS "hogwash", then you should have no trouble proving it.  Go ahead
and advertise them for less than $10, and let's see what happens!  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2381
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 07/25/93 12:34a
Subj: Chestnut cd's...$10! 1/2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DK>DK>MS>  ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
DK>DK>  >  any Chestnut purchase!

DK>Ok Mike, $10 is coming at ya!!

Great!  Got 'em in stock Dave!

z u later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2382
  To: STEVE ELLIOTT                            Date: 07/25/93 12:34a
Subj: MS MPC Works                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SE>One quick question, do you ship COD?

Affirmative Steve.  Give me a call anytime.

Bye,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2383
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93 12:34a
Subj: 2 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>Howse 'bout sendin' me a pare of them on 'proval?  (;>  (i.e. same deal
BJ>as last time)

Let me stock up a little first.  Hard to keep these new ones in!  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2384
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93 12:35a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 July 1993                ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST         Last update: 7/21
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------

 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 Amateur Models (New!).........35.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Animation Fantasies 1 or 2....29.00    Porkware 2 (New!).............37.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Busty Babes...................33.00    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........29.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Erotic Encounters.............36.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........49.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................33.00    Smutware......................32.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................33.00    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................33.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......35.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............33.00    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......28.00    Storm 2.......................28.00
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Storm 3.......................29.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....45.00    Storm 3-Pak...................75.00
 Nightwatch Interactive (Wow!).49.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 PC-PIX 1......................30.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 PC-PIX 2......................30.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 PC-PIX 3......................30.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2385
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/25/93  6:48p
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi there I am interested in the:

HK->Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
HK->  Came bundled with SoundBlaster audio card. CD ROM in jewel
HK->case &
HK->docs,
HK->  but no pkg. Still in sealed plastic wrapper. CD ROM drive
HK->reqd.  $28

I would be happy to purchase it from you,  please tell me your address and
where to send the $28 and do I have to pay for postage and I'll enclose the
money order ro whatever.

                                Darren Sellner

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From: BOB CENTERBAR                          Number: 2386
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  3:47p
Subj: CD Library                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I've got a CD Game Library that came bundled with my system for sale. 
 
I'm asking $50.00 for the library which includes: 
 
Chessmaster 3000 
Monkey Island 
Stellar 7 
Loom 
 
Also have the following CD's for sale: 
 
Time Table of History (Science & Innovation)  $20.00 
 
US & World Atlas  $25.00 
 
Will consider reasonable offers. Trades only if local. 
 
Thanks.....Bob 
 

... OFFLINE 1.50  "Live from Central Texas...." 
* LAKOTA v1.0

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2387
  To: BRAD RILEY                               Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: Re: RED HOT CD'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I must say, Boris, that you are good to deal with and have
>>    fair prices. I bought my rom and a disk from you and had a
>>    little trouble setting it up but you helped me out over the
>>    phone.  Have a great day from KC Mo

Always nice to hear from one of our many happy customers !!

I think you'll enjoy our NEW CATALOGUE as well. You'll be getting it
in the mail very soon as well as our customer appreciation catalogue
also. A LOT OF SUPER LOW PRICED cd's in this one, so have your
Visa/MasterCard ready.....grin !!

Chat with you soon......

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2388
  To: JAMES HOGUE                              Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: Re: ORDER REC'D                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Brian, just a note of warning about ProPhone. I've been using
>>    it for about 6 months and have found the search engine to be
>>    VERY buggy. Some towns in the database will not be found by
>>    name but can be found by zip code. There are also GAPING holes
>>    in the data for example it finds only two pawn shops in
>>    Phoenix. It is quite week data wise in California and Florida.

>>    It is the best thing of its kind out there as long as you are
>>    aware of its short comings.

>>    Just wish someone would produce a CD that does what ProPhone is
>>    advertised to do.

James, there is and it's called " Phone Disk USA " !! Much better and
offers a more up to date database as well.

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be glad to
assist you further.

BTW: Yes..both versions are in stock.

Boris Osadciw

... What Bug! I left behind the roaches in New York!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2389
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: WHILE THEY LAST                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Officers Bookcase       Canadian Shareware
Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
Chicano Datebase          PC-SIG Games            LaserTax On CD
Phoenix # 3               Jokes&Pranks            Learning Adventure
Business Assistant        World Travler           Sound Sensation
DeathStar Arcade          Colossal CookBook       ClipArt Goliath
Technotools               Our Solar System        Windoware

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2390
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: RED HOT SUMMER                          Refer: NONE
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$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX   PRICE - $15.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
   COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - -  24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2391
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
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 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2392
  To: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529               Date: 07/25/93  6:59p
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

S9> actually, i would like another one.  but i wonder if my toshiba 3401
S9> could be put into the external case you sell your 3201s in? i have
S9> to put more hardrive in my "other" computer and that means no place
S9> insdie for the cd. it needs to go external, but i'm not keen on on
S9> the price of the "box" by itself.  if i got an external from you,
S9> could i take the 3201 out and put in my 3401?

Yes, you could.  Rod Jensen has made the arrangements.

S9> btw - it was a treat reading the want ads from your town - one
S9> alwyas hears that the cost of living it high in calif and low in the
S9> south - well, your town and mine seem to be pretty comparable on
S9> supermarket ads and rent.

My area has a higher cost of living than some of the other areas of the
south.  Probably because of the higher concentration of engineers around
the Hewlett Packard, Morton-Thiokol, Marshall Space Flight Center,
Lockheed, Toshiba, Pioneer, Chrysler, Teledyne-Brown, Intergraph, and the
list goes on.


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2393
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 07/26/93  1:11a
Subj: CDRoms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Some CDRoms for sale:

Source -- Gobs of C code                 $20.00   (MAR 92)
C User's Group  -- More Gobs of C code   $20.00   (OCT 92)
GIFs Galore -- 630 Megs of GIFs          $20.00   (1st ED)
CICA Windows -- 540 Megs of Windows      $15.00   (NOV 92)
Simtel -- over 600 Megs of DOS           $15.00   (DEC 92)
CDRom News Vol.1 Iss.2 -- NEXT/LINUX     $15.00
CDRom News Vol.1 Iss.3 -- NEXT/LINUX     $15.00
Hobbes OS/2 -- tons o' OS/2              $15.00   (NOV 92)
Postage and Insurance is $5.00 per order.
I will ship COD.  Add $5.00 per order for COD.
For More Info contact:

Eric Bravick
14014 Halstead Ct. Apt #408
Tampa, FL. 33613

(813) 979-1323 (Voice)
(813) 977-5212 (BBS)
Netmail 1:377/53.0


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2394
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  6:25a
Subj: SCSI CDROM                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $220.00 with caddy.

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.

Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin SCSI,
  300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,
  64k buffer.  

205-837-5053 




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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 2395
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/25/93  3:45p
Subj: CD-ROM TRADE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

IG> 1.Loom
IG> 2.The Secret of Monkey Island

Isreal-

Sorry, no adults disks I want to trade, but I'll offer $32.90 for the above.
Reply here or Netmail. -Thank

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From: TONY MACE                              Number: 2396
  To: EDWARD CROUSER                           Date: 07/25/93  8:22a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE WANTED                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Edward!

Friday July 23 1993 12:56, Edward Crouser wrote to Tony Mace:

 EC>         How much? I have one I might be willing to sell.

Sorry, already found a SCSI Toshiba one for my PAS16....

Tony

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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 2397
  To: DISK VENDORS                             Date: 07/20/93  8:53p
Subj: catalog request                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Please send a catalog to:


... Steve Gerweck, 530 Concetta Drive, Monroe, MI 48161-3542
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: JAMES PRICE                            Number: 2398
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  8:57p
Subj: CD-ROM CACHING????                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Is there a major <if any> improvement in caching a CD-rom with 435 ms
access time and 150kb transfer rate???

Is there a program that will Cache my CD-rom and my hard drive also??

Saw a public domain program, but it wouldn't work.  I think it said 
something about the trial period expired.
 
If you use a Cache on your drive, please send me a note on how you
like it... 
 

 
Thanks in advance.




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From: JAMES PRICE                            Number: 2399
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  8:57p
Subj: ENCYLCLOPEDIA                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in purchasing a Multi-Media Encyclopedia, I would 
prefer Windows MPC.
 
I noticed that Compton's has "Interactive", "MM" and "MPC" versions.
What are the differences feature wise between each???

I know MM is DOS and MPC is Windows.  Is Interactive Windows also??
Any added features in one version over the others?

Also noticed the Grolier's has multiple versions.
 
Which do you think is better?  And why?




Thanks in advance for your help.  Trying to decide which one to buy.





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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2400
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 10:55a
Subj: Re: DICT & LANG                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Bob Jackson <07-01-93 22:08> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS> It's going out to you today, along with the $6 shareware CD, and Oink
MS> 2 (for review).

What's Oink 2?  We haven't seen that one yet.  Or has my brother been hiding
the new smut stuff from me?  <grin>

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2401
  To: RICK MEENAN                              Date: 07/25/93 11:02a
Subj: Re: Looking For a cd-rom                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <07-12-93 15:25> Rick Meenan wrote:

RM> I've been looking for a CD-ROM containing GIF photos of porno stars.
RM> I'm pretty new at this so don't know what's out there that may have
RM> the material I'm looking for.  Therefore, anyone selling a CD-ROM(s) they
RM> think might be of help drop me a line.  I'd be interested in getting
RM> catalogs from anyone thinking they have what I'm looking for.  Let me
RM> know what's out there guys!

There are several adult titles available on the market.  Most of them
duplicate each other to a large degree.  I personally recommend finding a
reputable publisher, and sticking with them.  Lee Noga's discs are top-notch
and she's a regular participant here in the echos.  Look for Ecstasy Hot Pics
or Busty Babes at a dealer near you.  Of course, we stock both of them, and
you can give us a call at (800) 678-2374 or (509) 754-0724 for more
information.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2402
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/25/93 11:06a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Jeff Jenkins <07-11-93 21:58> J.p. Ladner wrote:

JL> I'm interested in this drive but I'm leary of a 150ms drive and
JL> software for only $200 ???

The Mitsumi is a low-cost drive, and can be found brand-new for as low as $175
if you shop around.  The going rate appears to be about $190.  I personally
don't recommend the drive, as whenever there's a disc returned to me as
defective, it works fine in our office.  I call the customer to inquire about
the type of drive they're using, and they ALWAYS say, "Mitsumi."  Seems the
Mitsumi has a problem reading many of the discs out there on the market.
HOWEVER, industry sources have indicated that Mitsumi has found a problem with
their controller card, and have corrected it.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
(800) 678-2374 / (509) 754-0724 (Voice)
(509) 754-0109 (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2403
  To: JOE STEVENS                              Date: 07/25/93 11:14a
Subj: Re: CD ROM...                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <07-13-93 17:07> Joe Stevens wrote:

JS> I am interested in Purchasing a CD ROM drive.  I have looked at
JS> several models... the one whick is the least expensive and still
JS> offers reasonable features is a mitsumi brand.  Does anyone out there
JS> have one and do you know if it is any good?  Also... I have been told
JS> it only has an 8 bit interface card... not a 16 bit.  What is the
JS> advantage to a 16 bit interface?

If you decide to go with the Mitsumi, make sure you get one of the "newer"
ones with 350ms access time, and a 16-bit controller.  The 16-bit controller
allows you more configuration options, which come in handy on a "busy" system.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2404
  To: JESSE SCHMELZER                          Date: 07/25/93 11:18a
Subj: Re: NIght Owl 9.0                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <07-12-93 04:32> Jesse Schmelzer wrote:

JS> Can anyone beat the 29.00 for night owl 9.0?? if so give me the # to
JS> order.

I may know someone who can fix you up:

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
(800) 678-2374 / (509) 754-0724 (Voice)
(509) 754-0109 (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2405
  To: KEITH SHEEHAN                            Date: 07/25/93 11:51a
Subj: Re: MS BOOKSHELF '93 MPC                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <07-10-93 21:30> Keith Sheehan wrote:

KS> Does any CD Distributer that advertises thier products on this echo
KS> have the 1993 edition of the Microsoft Bookshelf (MPC Version) for
KS> less than $129 that I've seen it for in such places as Elek-Tek &
KS> Comp USA. I was intereted in purchasing this disk but I don't want to
KS> spend on $129 on an electronic version of some books I already have!
KS> I can justify looking up things in the books for that price.

Give us a call, and I'm sure we can save you some serious money on that title.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
(800) 678-2374 / (509) 754-0724 (Voice)
(509) 754-0109 (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2406
  To: KEITH RITCHIE                            Date: 07/25/93  3:20p
Subj: Re: Winbox CD Problem                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <07-21-93 21:46> Keith Ritchie wrote:

KR>  I just got the Winbox Cd from Starvector and I am having a bear of a
KR> time getting it to work. It keeps lookingg for a Project1 file that
KR> is nowhere to be found. I checked the power.cfg file and it has the
KR> correct info. Help... it seems like a good CD from the Dir listing
KR> but it is worthless if you can't access it.

Call your dealer and ask for the "fix."  There is a slight problem with the
interface on some of the discs out there.  The fix is available from our BBS,
too.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
(800) 678-2374 / (509) 754-0724 (Voice)
(509) 754-0109 (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2407
  To: PHILIP POLSTRA                           Date: 07/25/93  3:23p
Subj: Re: Windows                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Dave Reed <07-21-93 06:46> Philip Polstra wrote:

PP>  DR> Get both discs for only $34!  Please mention
PP>  DR> that you saw the ad in FidoNet, because these discs are regularly
PP>  DR> sold for $34 each.
PP>
PP> Gee, I paid $39 not $34 when I bought them from ya just a week or too
PP> ago.

I set the prices, based on what I pay for the discs.  When I'm able to secure
better pricing, I pass that along to the customer.  You just happened to
purchase from the end of our previous inventory.  David charges what I tell
him to charge.  :-)

Next time you order, mention this, and I'm pretty sure we can give you a
discount on your next purchase to make up for the difference.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2408
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/25/93  3:26p
Subj: Re: NighOwl 9                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <07-19-93 17:03> Manny Wise wrote:

MW> I was ready to buy it for 37.00...but them I hear someone said:it can
MW> be bough for 25.00 a piece..? Any true on that ???????????

Yes, sir.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
(800) 678-2374 / (509) 754-0724 (Voice)
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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2409
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/25/93  3:30p
Subj: Re: cd's shipping to canada??           Refer: NONE
Read: 07/27/93  8:02a                       Private: No 

In a message to Kirk Rawnsley <07-23-93 06:28> Tim Helton wrote:

TH> Exporting adult material to Canada can be a hassle.... There must be
TH> 500 people working at the border censoring the material that enters
TH> the country.

I think it's more like 500 people at EACH POINT of entry into Canada!  :-)

Jackie

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2410
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  7:56p
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*********************************************************************
************************  CD-ROM International  *********************
************************      Adult Titles      *********************
*********************************************************************

101 Positions, Part 1        $45     My First Time (Things Change)$50
101 Positions, Part 2        $45     My Private Collection, Vol 1 $33
Adult Palate                 $38     My Private Collection, Vol 2 $33
Adult Reference Library      $30     Night Watch Interactive      $49
After Dark Trilogy           $45     PC-PIX, Vol 1                $33
All Beauties                 $28     PC-PIX, Vol 2                $33
Amateur Models               $37     PC-PIX, Vol 3                $33
Animation Fantasies v1.0     $33     Physical Therapy             $23
Asian Ladies                 $33     Porkware, Vol 1              $33
Best of Vivid Clips          $45     Porkware, Vol 2              $33
Busty Babes                  $29     Private Pictures             $33
Busty Babes v3               $35     Rimfire XXX Mini-Movies      $44
Club Expose                  $46     Seedy Movies Disc            $42
Digital Dancing              $49     Seedy Rom v1                 $27
Digital Dreams               $32     Seedy Rom v2                 $27
Dirty Talk                   $45     Seedy Rom v3                 $27
Doors of Passion             $45     Seedy Rom v4                 $27
Ecstacy Hot Pics             $38     Seedy Rom v5                 $27
Erotic Encounters            $33     Seedy Rom v6                 $27
GBL (Gay, Bi and Lesbian)    $33     Seedy Rom v7 (Seventh Heaven)$27
Giffy Gold                   $33     Seymore Butts                $49
Girls of Vivid               $40     Smutware                     $32
Girls of Vivid, Vol 2        $40     So Much StareWARE            $33
Hidden Obsessions            $49     Southern Beauties            $33
Hot Pix, Vol 2               $32     Storm 1                      $27
Hot Pix, Vol 3               $32     Storm 2                      $32
Hot Pix, Vol 4               $32     Storm 3                      $32
Hot Pix, Vol 5               $32     Swimwear '93                 $30
House of Dreams              $49     Visual Fantasies             $28
House of Sleeping Beauties   $44     Volcano                      $32
Kama Sutra                   $69     Wicked                       $58
Lovely Ladies                $33     Women of Venus               $34
Manpower                     $33     X-Treme                      $32
Moving Fantasies             $27     XXX Extreme                  $33

*********************************************************************
*****************  Credit Card and COD Orders Welcome  **************
*********************************************************************

       CD-ROM International             (800) 678-2374  (Orders)
       108 4th Ave SW                   (509) 754-0724  (Voice)
       PO Box 723                       (509) 754-0109  (BBS/Fax)
       Ephrata WA 98823-0723            1:344/79 (FidoNet)

     Our new catalog is available for freq or download from the BBS
*********************************************************************


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2411
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/25/93  7:34a
Subj: REVIEW OF "DIGITAL DREAMS               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Yep, Lee's sent me a copy of BB3. Haven't had the cjance to go through it
thoroughly yet, but "Showoff" looks very interesting. You can expect a
thorough DD-like review of it shortly. (And thanks for the kind words!)

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From: KEITH SATURN                           Number: 2412
  To: CHRISTIAN SMITH                          Date: 07/25/93  6:21p
Subj: MAP CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Christian Smith to All <=-

 CS> I heard there is a CD that has every street in the US on it. IF
 CS> anyone knows what it is can you tell me the cost of it. 

Are you looking for a map of every street or a CrissCross Directory type of
thing?  If you're looking for the directory type of thing, so am I.  I think
one of the national phone books on CD might do the trick!.

                        Keith Saturn.

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From: KEITH SATURN                           Number: 2413
  To: ANDREW HUIGE                             Date: 07/25/93  6:21p
Subj: looking for a diask                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Andrew Huige to All <=-

 AH> ÄAll, 
 AH> I heard of a disk with well over 450 files, I am looking for a
 AH> disk to  start a bbs with, so if you have any suggestions where I can

Why settle for 450 files? I used the Simtel20 CD on my BBS and that had over
7500 files!  Simtel@0 CDs  can be ordered at 1-800-786-9907.  I don't work 
for them, I'm just satisfied with what they had to offer!  You can also try 
some of the vendor's in this echo.

                        Keith Saturn.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2414
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  7:16p
Subj: Review of Busty Babes #3                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

First, many thanks to "Lady Lee" (Noga) of Florida Lion's Den, Inc.
for sending me a copy of "Busty Babes Volume #1 Release 3.0" (BB3) for
review.

Secondly, this review will follow the format, style, and content 
paradigms that were used in my reviews of "Digital Dreams" (Ero Tek) and 
"Pork Ware I" inasmuch as there will be three parts: Statistics, 
Operations, and Visual.  I will use the same criteria as I outlined in my 
previous descriptions of those parts.

Thirdly, having learned that FidoNet can tolerate reasonably long posts, 
I'll use only three messages for this review, one for each of the parts 
named above.

Finally, remember, WHAT FOLLOWS IS ONE PERSON'S OPINION.  While I try 
very hard to be as objective as possible in writing these reviews, 
(objectivity is part of what I do to satisfy Maslow), individual
preferences, both mine and yours, will always introduce some level of 
subjectivity, particularly in the operations and visual parts.  All set?  
Here we go.....

Statistics
==========

This section focuses on numerical data relative to the physical contents
of the CD.

Let me begin by stating that measuring the exact number of files on a CD
isn't as simple as it may sound, nor all that important.  Most CDs these 
days have thousands of files on them, particularly image CDs and 
shareware CDs.  While one might assume that a simple DIR would suffice, 
it won't.  First, DIR will count the . and .. subdirectory "files" (note: 
these have been taken into account in the figures below).  Secondly, even 
when using DIR with a "qualifier" like *.GIF, a directory may show files 
that aren't actually there, or are corrupted in some way that makes them 
useless and therefore might as well not be there.  Finally, what my 
CD-ROM drive can read, yours may not, and vice-versa.  Accordingly, when
I give various counts and sizes and you subsequently find that your stats
don't EXACTLY agree with mine, don't take it too hard.

BB3 disclosed a count of 2663 GIF files (not counting the catalog
files - more on those later) totaling 499 Mb.  That yields an
average byte size of 187 Kb per GIF which is consistent with the
observation that most of the GIFs are either 800x600 or 640x480 in
resolution and most occupy relatively large portions of the screen when 
displayed normally.  All told, the CD disclosed 3278 files occupying 528 
Mb.  The difference of 615 files is accounted for by the 200 catalog GIF 
files and by the utilities and other programs included on the CD.

Comparing BB3 GIF files names against my those in my data base taken from 
BB1 (Rel. 1 not Rel. 2), I found 1731 duplicate names.  Had I been able 
to run the comparison against BB2, doubtless a larger number would have 
been forthcoming.  Run against the whole data base, an additional 398 
duplicate names were found.  These numbers indicate that BB3 is indeed 
just as her producer advertised: essentially a re-make of BB2 to correct 
past "sins", at least as far as the GIF files are concerned.

Within BB3 itself, I found 10 GIF files that were duplicated.  That is, 
there are 10 pairs of files where each member of a pair contains exactly 
the same image.  One of the pairs even shares the same name: 
"L_HONEY5.GIF" which appears in two different directories.  The other 
nine pairs have different names and appear in the same or different 
directories as their "image mates".

Operations to follow...


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2415
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  7:17p
Subj: Review of Busty Babes #3                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Visual
======

This part of the review focuses on the visual merits of the CD's imagery 
as judged by this reviewer.  Accordingly, it is more subjective than 
either of the two preceding parts. and should be taken as such.

Like its forebearers, BB3 is a full-blown X-rated CD.  Some of its images 
are as raw as raw legally gets.  It's worth noting that a large number of 
the scans are R-rated in that, outside of exhibitionism, no sexual 
activity is depicted at all.  This is primarily true of the "BUSTYn" 
directories (0 <= n <= 6).

Comparing BB3 GIF files names against my those in my data base taken from 
BB1 (Rel. 1 not Rel. 2), I found 1731 duplicate names.  Had I been able 
to run the comparison against BB2, doubtless a larger number would have 
been forthcoming.  Run against the whole data base, an additional 398 
duplicate names were found.  These numbers indicate that BB3 is indeed 
just as her producer advertised: essentially a re-make of BB2 to correct 
past "sins", at least as far as credits for the GIF files are concerned.

Within BB3 itself, I found 10 GIF files that were duplicated.  That is, 
there are 10 pairs of files where each member of a pair contains exactly 
the same image.  One of the pairs even shares the same name: 
"L_HONEY5.GIF" which appears in two different directories.  The other 
nine pairs have different names and appear in the same or different 
directories as their "image mates".  There may be other pairs, but I 
didn't detect them with my computer-aided processes.

Like it predecessors, BB3's images are by and large quite good.  
Certainly they are on a par with contemporary releases.  Most images are 
either 640x480 or 800x600 in resolution.  The scans are generally sharp 
and professional looking in appearance.  If you already have one or two 
of the more popular adult image CDs, (e.g. Ecstasy, FAO, Seedy ROM, etc.) 
you'll feel right at home with the quality of BB3's pictures.  

As previously mentioned, BB3's directory structure is an improvement over 
BB1 and BB2, IMHO.  In addition, there are some scans that aren't in 
either of the predecessor volumes - not enough to warrant purchase solely 
based on that fact, but nice lagniappe if you're going to buy the disk 
anyway.  Finally, there's a truly new directory in that all of its images 
(some 115 of them) are definitely not in either BB1 or BB2.  That is the 
"MICHELLA" directory and it's contents are exclusively scans of a lady by 
that name.  These scans are soft and generally dark.  They're pleasant 
enough; mostly "R to hard R" and frequently with an unnamed lady friend 
in tender-looking poses.  If I had to chose a single word, on the whole 
(no pun intended) I'd call them artistic.

In sum, if you're looking for an adult CD with a variety of subject 
matter, BB3 would be a good choice.  If you're a true collector, you'll 
probably want BB3 to complete the set; I'm sure FLD's not planning a Rel. 
4.0 - there'd be no point to it.  Release 1.0 is already a collector's 
item;  Release 2.0 doesn't surrender anything meaningful to Release 3.0 
in image content; Release 3.0's raison d'etre, outside of some mea culpa 
rapair work, is SO.  There's just no more mileage in this collection.

So, Lee, what'cha got up your sleeves for us next?  Whatever it is, make 
sure SO hangs in there!
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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 2416
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  4:10p
Subj: TCM Newsletter...                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TCM Computing and Night Owl Publishers, Inc. are currently working on
several joint projects in order to make available the very best in
CD-ROM Shareware.  Based on the rave reviews and comments we have
received about version 9, we are succeeding in that goal.  We have
several new products under development which we are very excited about.

TCM periodically sends out a newsletter to let our customers know about
upcoming releases and other news relating to Night Owl.  We also offer
those receiving the newsletter substantial discounts on Night Owl CDs
(and occasionally on PC hardware).

We will be sending out another newsletter (hopefully with some special
announcements and offers) in about a month.  For those of you who have
received the newsletter in the past, and those who have purchased any
products from TCM, you are on our mailing list.

If you are NOT on our mailing list, but would like to get the latest
Night Owl news (along with info on discounts we do not advertise in
the e-mail nets), you may do one of the following:

    - leave a message here with your name & address (R/O preferred)
    - call our BBS and leave a message to the sysop
    - send us a Fax with your n/a
    - call our voice line (leave the info on our machine if we
      aren't around)
    - Drop us a line via US Mail

TCM has been affliated with Night Owl for more than 3 years now.  We
have been active in the actual preparation of all disks since v3.
If you want the latest news and deals on Night Owl, get on our mailing
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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 2417
  To: JACKIE ROGERS                            Date: 07/25/93 11:26p
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello There Jackie!

In a message to All <07/25/93> Jackie Rogers wrote:

JR> *********************************************************************
JR> ************************  CD-ROM International  *********************
JR> ************************      Adult Titles      *********************
JR> *********************************************************************


JR>      Our new catalog is available for freq or download from the BBS
JR> *********************************************************************

Nice prices...........

JR> ... If Clinton is the answer, it must have been a stupid question!

Stupid Mistake on your part tho...........

John

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From: TAMI THOMPSON                          Number: 2418
  To: PETER CLAUSEN                            Date: 07/25/93  9:04p
Subj: CDROM + Amiga 2000 + Zeus=? Yes or No   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PC> The Zeus came with a startup-icon for removable 
 PC> media that one supposedly drops into the start-up 
 PC> drawer (I'm running AmigaDos 2.1), but this does 
 PC> not help me any.  Is this just for things like 
 PC> Syquests and the like?  Not CD's?
 PC> So I guess I need to get Xetec's driver to make things work?
Yes, you need the Xetec, or another such as AsimWare (my personal preference),
file system to get the CDROM to work w/the Amiga.  Either of these will also
let you emulate a CDTV, enabling you to run CDTV disks (please note, neither
gives you 100% compatibility to run all CDTV disks).  Good luck, and have fun! 
-Tami

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From: JOSEPH THOMAS                          Number: 2419
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/26/93  9:33a
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 HK> Thanks for the message on the encyclopedia. I've had one other person
 HK> contact me on it, and I left them a message back. If they decide not to
 HK> take the CD, I'll drop you a note again to see if you want it.

         I sure would like that. I am holding the 28.00 for this purpose
alone and I wouldn't buy Ice cream with that money, in this heat. Tnxx.

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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 2420
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 07/22/93  3:22p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 07-15-93  00:18 Peter Dettelis shared these words of wisdom: 

 PD> Congratulations to you and Herb on your new home purchase.

Herb starts a new job on Monday, who knows when we'll finish getting the
house in shape!

 PD> Some discs that I use are "Computer Select," a CD-ROM disc of one full
 PD> year of the largest number of computer magazines available on disc
 PD> (i.e., PC World, PC Mag, etc.)

Don't think I've seen that one in the online catalogs. What does it
cost?

 PD> and "World Library," a CD-ROM disc of
 PD> about a thousand publications including all Shakespear's writings, all
 PD> Sherlock Holmes stories, and several other written works.  Several
 PD> other companies have started producing their own discs of literary
 PD> works like Nimbus and the Bureau of Electronic Publishing.  The

Primarily looking for general-interest nonfiction (for work anyway).  I
do have the Best of the Bureau. It suffers from weak search/retrieval,
in that it allows only an entire article (as opposed to a user-selected
portion) to be output to disk. I infer (perhaps incorrectly) that the
full-size Bureau publications have the same problem. Do you know if that
is the case?

 PD> dollars.  Newsweek on CD-ROM, with video and sound clips will be
 PD> released shortly and several other new releases will be geared towards

Have you heard anything about its pricing?

 PD>  ! Origin: COSUG BBS: Colorado Springs PC User Group 719-442-1612

New BBS #... new sysop?


... I used to be indecisive, now I'm not so sure
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2421
  To: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                        Date: 07/25/93  7:47a
Subj: Re: TRADE ADULT CD FOR ADULT CD ?       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 23 Jul 93  16:39:50, I heard Jerry Gerolymatos shout to Kevin Plummer:

JG> I'll give you money for the Volcano cd if you don't mind, cause I don't hav
JG> any other cd like that. Just tell me the price.

Well, I would have rathered traded for it, But...  The Disk is like brand New,
I think it was used maybe 6 or 7 times, I put it On-Line for my users, and 
they really didn't use it, Soooo, I want to get another disk.  So how about 
$28.00 and you pay shipping ???


                   ......|<evin

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From: EARL HARSHBARGER                       Number: 2422
  To: MICHAEL MULCAHY                          Date: 07/16/93  3:07p
Subj: Re: Encyclopedia CD's                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Reply to msg originally in CDROM For Sale (Fido)

 -=> Quoting Terry Blount to Michael Mulcahy <=-

 MM> I am looking for an Encyclopedia CD collection that my  children
 MM> can utilize as a good reference for school.  I have  heard  that
 
 TB> I carry the 1992 21 volume Grolier"Academic America Encyclopedia"
 TB> for $69.  This is the best encyclopedia I have seen.  It includes

 I can vouch for the Grolier Encyclopedia.  We received as part of a package
 that came with a computer we purchased for our school.  It is so easy to
 use.  The students love it.  It (the CD) is much cheaper than buying the
 hardcopy set and it easier to purchase a new edition every couple of years.
 You might be able to find a better price than the above, I think I saw it
 for as low as $49.  It is a great package for the price.

 Hope this helps.

 --Earl


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2423
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93 10:05a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Rel. 3                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <07-24-93 06:53> Bob Jackson wrote:


BJ>> Just a short note for now saying that BB3 has arrived safe and sound.

Great--Remember it is still Volumn 1 but release/version 3.0 of that volumn!
Don't want the user's to think it is Vol III--

Thanks !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2424
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/25/93 10:29a
Subj: SHOWOFF! Interface-The 90's             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Bob Jackson <07-22-93 12:45> Vince Sorensen wrote:

VS>> I think the interface for Busty Babes Release 3.0 is
VS>> the best, period, and I've _made_ excellent interfaces for other
VS>> Of course, I'm biased because I distribute it (and Erotek's Digital
VS>> Dreams), but I use much less bandwidth for my propaganda <g>!

Ahh Vince--Your so sweet, but it has nothing to do with 'Bias'--SHOWOFF! was
developed by a team of PhD's that decided the user lacked a true imaging
toolbox--SHOWOFF is the technology that was destined to replace VPIC and CSHOW
etc--It has a better color pallette, and it allows you to manage your image
collection which is the plus here--The other packages just allow you to view
the image with clumbsy configurations--This package auto detects your video
needs and self installs, finds the dupes images on your drives, allows you to
build pages of images (1 to 1,024), magnifies any portion of the image many
times, and so on--The shareware version of this is on the Busty Babes in
addition to the scaled down version licensed to us as the interface--So you
have 2 goodies to play with on Busty ! Yes, the entire shareware version is on
the disc as well--

Can't wait until the windows version of this is ready ! You'll find it on our
future discs as well-

Thanks for the 'Kudo' !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: WILLIAM BYRD                           Number: 2425
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93  6:12p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Rel. 3                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bob,

  I hope you find this disk to be of as good of quality as I have so far.  I
especially like the ease of use that Showoff provides over its predecessor on
the original BB disk.  The quality of both the disk and material on it are in
my own personal opinon outstanding.  This disk shows us that pride in a job
well done is not yet dead in America.  Granted that some out there may not
approve of this type of material but that being beside the point this disk is
of the highest quality workmanship I've seen lately.

Wm.  
 
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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 2426
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  5:18p
Subj: NEW CD RELEASE - Southern Beauties      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          **********  Graphical Images of Florida, Inc. **********
             Announces The NEW RELEASE of   "Southern Beauties"
                A Fully Commercial - Fully Copyrighted Disc

675 Megs-OVER 65 Top Models-1000 GIFs-1024x768x256 From Original 35mm Slides
Includes 300 Megs of the Best GIFs in 24 bit True Color. Installs Quickly &
Easily - Menu Driven - User Friendly - Popup Help Menus - Mouse Support -
Keyword Search - Sound Blaster Front Loader - Multiple Directory Slide Show

To Order Contact: Faye Sharp at Tradeshows Inc. 317-651-9848 or 317-651-1223  
 
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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2427
  To: CHAD NEWMAN                              Date: 07/25/93 10:22p
Subj: Trade for Adult CD                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CN>I would like to trade "Cream of the Crop" Shareware CD (valued at $39.00) fo
CN>an Adult CD.  I have a few other games I'm willing to through in for the tra

How about a copy of Pc-Pix Volume II?

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2428
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 10:28p
Subj: Sell Me 2 CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>We have two brand new ones:  Southern Beauties and Amateur Models, both of
MS>which **I believe** are all original scans.  $35 ea. or both for $69.

Mike,
You still have my address, right? Send them both to me, please. BTW, you
DID get the disk I returned, right? Terry

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2429
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 10:30p
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!      1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike,

MS>1. THE COMPLETE BOOKSHOP - An entire bookshop on CD! Includes classics,

Send me this one, too, ok?

MS>4. TECHNOTOOLS - A programmer's dream disc! Routines, utilities, debuggers,

And this one...

MS>5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,

And this one...

Thanks,
Terry

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2430
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 10:31p
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!      2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>8.  CLIPART GOLIATH - Over 10,000 image files in PCX and TIF formats, plus

Send me this one too, please...

MS>12. SHAREWARE OVERLOAD - Over 6100 programs (550mb compressed) for all

And this one.

Thanks,
Terry

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From: TONY CASTORINO                         Number: 2431
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 07/24/93  8:55p
Subj: Re: $15 OFF CREAM OF THE CROP           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Terry.. Please add me to your mailing list...

                         Tony Castorino
                         P.O. Box 1462
                         Santa Clarita, CA 91386-0462

Thanks....

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From: JASON PAUL                             Number: 2432
  To: PETER CLAUSEN                            Date: 07/25/93 10:46p
Subj: CDROM + Amiga 2000 + Zeus               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PC>I just receieved a Toshiba XM-3201B Drive from this echo.

I am using the same cdrom drive on my Amiga 3000

PC>I think the drive is fine, but can't get it to work on my Zeus equipped
PC>Amiga 2000.

It should work.

PC>The Zeus came with a startup-icon for removable media that one supposedly
PC>drops into the start-up drawer (I'm running AmigaDos 2.1), but this does
PC>not help me any.  Is this just for things like Syquests and the like?  No
PC>CD's?

Yes, don't use this for your cdrom drive.

PC>My SCSI Toolbox that came with my Zeus card does 'see' the Toshiba as one
PC>of the SCSI devices attached to my controller.

I can also see it but don't do ANYTHING with toolbox.

PC>So I guess I need to get Xetec's driver to make things work?

You need Xetecs drivers or amiga dos 3.1 to see and run your cdrom drive.  The
drivers are only $50.00 and you get the fred fish CD.  It is a great deal.

PC>The tech guy at Buslogic told me COREL SCSI might be the ticket.  Anyone
PC>have any thoughts on this?

Corel Scsi is drivers for cdrom drives on a PC system.  Wouldn't do you any
good unless you have a bridgeboard and an IBM scsi controller.

Hope this helps you out!

-=-
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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 2433
  To: JOHN ROBINSON                            Date: 07/26/93  1:02a
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello JOHN!

Sunday July 25 1993, JOHN ROBINSON writes to JACKIE ROGERS:

 JR>> Our new catalog is available for freq or download from the BBS

 JR> Nice prices...........

 JR>> ... If Clinton is the answer, it must have been a stupid question!

 JR> Stupid Mistake on your part tho...........

I'm proud of her.  As more of the silent majority become vocal about their
political feelings, Clinton's going to feel like a little man in a big house,
real soon now.  At this rate, I'll be able to publish a CD-ROM full of
Clinton's mistakes by the end of summer.  He's such a joke, I'll have to market
it as a comedy, though.  ;-)


... My Broad Based Contribution - Kick Hillory in the butt!

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2434
  To: JOHN ROBINSON                            Date: 07/26/93  5:56a
Subj: Re: Adult Titles                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to JACKIE ROGERS <07-25-93 23:26> JOHN ROBINSON wrote:

JR> ... If Clinton is the answer, it must have been a stupid question!
JR>
JR> Stupid Mistake on your part tho...........

I'll have to have a talk with the sysop of the BBS I post from.  Although I
consider myself to lean towards the conservative side of the spectrum, I'd
rather leave the politics out of business.

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2435
  To: JACKIE ROGERS                            Date: 07/26/93  7:57a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> "Mitsumi."  Seems the Mitsumi has a problem reading many of the discs out
> there on the market. HOWEVER, industry sources have indicated that
> Mitsumi has found a problem with their controller card, and have
> corrected it.
How many Mitsumi have you sold? And what is your technical back-ground? 

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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 2436
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/26/93  6:59a
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello There Dave!

In a message to John Robinson <07/26/93> Dave Reed wrote:


DR> I'm proud of her.  As more of the silent majority become vocal about thei
DR> political feelings, Clinton's going to feel like a little man in a big ho
DR> real soon now.  At this rate, I'll be able to publish a CD-ROM full of
DR> Clinton's mistakes by the end of summer.  He's such a joke, I'll have to
DR> market it as a comedy, though.  ;-)

Your Political Views and dislike of the Present "Gentleman" in office have
no Place in a CD-ROM echo.. It can only turn those for or against Clinton
against you for advertising it.!!

If you were to make a CD full of jokes, Add in the past few "Good Old Boys"
that proceeded Clinton...Talk about a JOKE.!!  Lets see, One resigned
rather then be prosecuted.. Another one put the country so far in Debt
it will never get out and the last one SAT ON That guys KNEE and had his
mouth Manipulated..... Talk about the THREE STOOGES.!!

Life is tough when it isn't going your way isn't it.???

DR> ... My Broad Based Contribution - Kick Hillory in the butt!

Why, She is the "FIRST" one that has been in the White house in a long time
that had any Brains.. Do you have a problem with the fact she is a
        SMART "Broad" as you label her.??

Before I forget Dave... The CD "DOES NOT" Stand for "CLINTON DEBATE" incase
you think you are in the right area to advertise your Dislike for some
one.! ...
Enough said on the issue of the President.. Now, Do you sell CD-ROM's or
just bash other people who do.????????

John

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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 2437
  To: JACKIE ROGERS                            Date: 07/26/93  7:18a
Subj: Re: Adult Titles                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello There Jackie!

In a message to John Robinson <07/26/93> Jackie Rogers wrote:

JR> JR> Stupid Mistake on your part tho...........

JR> I'll have to have a talk with the sysop of the BBS I post from.  Although
JR> consider myself to lean towards the conservative side of the spectrum, I'
JR> rather leave the politics out of business.

Not a bad idea.. I would not consider buying from a vendor who shows their
dislike for some one in their advertisments.. Be it the President or anyone
else for that Matter..

John

 * WCE 1.10/2035 * Think hard now!  Which one is Shinola?

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2438
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 07/25/93  2:07p
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DP> There was a bug in the original version.  You can freq the "fix"  
 DP> from us as                                                        
                                                                       
  
Dave: 
  
I'd left you a copule of messages on your BBS regarding an add'l problem 
with WINBox: Trying to view .TXT files from within a ZIPped file causes 
the viewer to instantly minimize without displaying the file. Any ideas 
what's causing this? I've logged back in a couple of times but didn't 
see any messages to me. 
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2439
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93  6:23p
Subj: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ> PR> AFTERDARK  CDX - After Dark Trilogy                    37.00 clips from
three movies; "In too Deep", "Bad Side of Town", "The Damp Spot", and "Three
Women" as a bonus.
BJ> PR> ALLBEAUTIE CDX - All Beauties                          26.00
BJ> PR> AMATEURMOD CDX - Amateur Models                        30.00
Professional photographs of amateur models
BJ> PR> DIRTYTALK  CDX - Dirty Talk                            41.00
BJ> PR> EXOTICGIRL CDX - Exotic Girls                          27.00
BJ> PR> FOXES      CDX - Foxes                                 29.00
BJ> PR> HOUSEOFSLE CDX - House of Sleeping Beauties            43.00
interactive....
BJ> PR> WICKEDPWIN CDX - Wicked Photo CD Windows               48.00

BJ>Would be interested in finding our more about these titles. Do you ha
BJ>descriptions, data, etc. on them?

That's all I've got on 'em, so far......

Hope this helps, Bob.

Pat

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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 2440
  To: BRAD RILEY                               Date: 07/25/93  3:55p
Subj: Re: NighOwl 9                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for reply..I ordered it for 25.00 

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From: DUANE A. FLOYD                         Number: 2441
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/26/93  7:02a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you have a catalog, could you please send me one????

Address:

Duane A. Floyd
1266 Holly Oak Drive
Randleman, NC 27317

Thanks.

C-Ya on the BBS Waves

Duane "|>affy" Floyd


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From: DUANE A. FLOYD                         Number: 2442
  To: MARK ABACCHI                             Date: 07/26/93  7:04a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you have a catalog, could you send me one???

Address:

Duane A. Floyd
1266 Holly Oak Drive
Randleman, NC 27317

Thanks.

C-Ya on the BBS Waves.

Duane "|>affy" Floyd


... I know a good tagline when I steal one.
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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 2443
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 07/26/93 12:31p
Subj: Re: NighOwl 9                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

thanks

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From: VERNON MELTON                          Number: 2444
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/26/93 12:23a
Subj: Re: Pier 2 CD-ROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                    -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

Mike,
     Just a note to say thanks for the CD.  It's a real nice one, and very
easy to set up with a BBS.
Later,
     Vernon Melton
 
... C program run... Run, program, run...  PLEASE...
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From: TONY MASSEY                            Number: 2445
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  9:07p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>MB> By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me off?

MB> MS> You keep saying that.  Out of curiosity, what would the actual
MB> MS> monetary damages be in this case?  Can you give us an accurate
MB> MS> damage assessment for this "ripoff", expressed in whole dollars?
MB> MS> I think we'd all like to know if your prolonged character
MB> MS> assassination is actually warranted in relation to your
MB> MS> out-of-pocket expenses.

MB>Those "damages", as you call them, would amount to approx. $20-$25.  We were
MB>to each ccover our own shipping, approx $2.90, which I did, so say no more
MB>that $27.50 max., $22.90 min.
MB>This has not been a "prolonged character assasination", as you say.  It is
MB>simply my right to try and prevent myself or anyone else from being on the
MB>receiving end of a bad deal.  BTW, I thought you did'nt want to be involved.

Out of curiosity, Why not get a Conference set up for "Better Business
Complaints" or "How Not to Get Ripped Off" or something like that.  That
way, when someone is ready to buy something, they can check and seeby
Subject and address the company or person directly and in detail.  It
may also make sellers aware that they run the risk of getting called if
they have "Shady Business Practices", and protect the consumer, as well
as show people who the "whiners" are, thus protecting the Sellers.

BTW, I am not saying that anyone is wrong, just that it would be nice to
check by name, then take that incident to the seller and say "Is this
going to happen to me???", and please, I am not directing any remarks at
anyone, just a possible safeguard for consumers and sellers.

Tony
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From: TONY MASSEY                            Number: 2446
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/24/93  9:13p
Subj: Benge debacle                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TW>TH>I heard that!  If you need any on-site help, I volunteer ;).

I'll volunteer to hold the light, get the coffee, warm the chairs,
anything!!!

TW>The new one is 19, strawberry blonde, and cute as a bug. One of the
TW>other ones developed an attitude problem. So I shot her...

Does that mean you'll have pictures of women with 2 belly buttons???<G>

Tony
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From: TONY MASSEY                            Number: 2447
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/24/93  9:21p
Subj: BOTTOM LINE PRICING                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike,

I was impressed by the way you seem to do business, please send me a
catalog, or put me on a mailing list if you have one:

Tony Massey
118 Miner Street
Malvern, PA  19355

Thanks,

Tony
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From: TONY MASSEY                            Number: 2448
  To: BOB KELLY                                Date: 07/24/93 10:15p
Subj: HERE WE ARE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BK>BK> BK> TM>BK>SQ>    Cheers BBS in beautiful Cambridge, Ontario, Canada is
BK>BK> BK> TM>BK>SQ>    proud to be carrying this echo !!
BK>BK> BK>
BK>BK> BK> TM>BK>And I'm so proud you told us about it...
BK>BK> BK>
BK>BK> BK> TM>And I'm so proud that you're so proud that Cheers told us
BK>BK> BK> TM>about it!!!

I said this, but I think BK, BK, ans SQ said the others!!!

BK>BK> BK>
BK>BK> BK> My pleasure! Anyone else out there proud about this?
BK>BK>
BK>BK>     I'm proud too!! I'm also proud that we have the same
BK>BK>initials!!!

BK>Who said what above?


Tony
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From: GARY SHADE                             Number: 2449
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/25/93  6:30p
Subj: Libel                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Overheard Michael Benge  to Terry Woodward on the subject of Libel

MB> TW> anything he wants. My next action
MB> TW> will be to see relief under
MB> TW> Policy Four, which guarantees Fido
MB> TW> members protection from
MB> TW> harassment. I will file a formal
MB> TW> compliant with my RC.
MB>
MB> you did not like the disc I sent
MB>you, things worked out well for you,
MB>giving you, as you profess to believe,
MB>reason to mail my disc back instead.  The
MB>statement that you stole from me
MB>still stands....... The right thing
MB>for you to do is send me the PC II rom
MB>and $2.90,


Icredible - Mike if you're only out $2.90 for the postage - chalk it up to
doing business through the mails and quit your whinning.

One this is crystal clear to me Mike - I'd never do business with you
through the mail or any other way. I think your tirade has gone on long
enough and in this instance has had the opposite effect in that I'd never
do business with such a whinner - especially one who is complaining about
a couple of bucks.

Isn't there a moderator here who can drop Mike if he insists on keeping
this up????




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From: MIKE FURST                             Number: 2450
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/26/93  7:57p
Subj: Buy 3 Get A Powerpak Fre                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>          -------------* 3 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!! *--------------

MS>               BUY THIS:                             GET THIS FREE:
  >  *-----------------------------------*       *--------------------------*
  >  |   ADULT 3-PAK SPECIAL:            |       |                          |
  >  |                                   |       |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0     |
  >  | 1.  ALL BEAUTIES (gif, fli, gl)   |       |     REVISED EDITION      |
  >  | 2.  HOT PIX 5                     |       |                          |
  >  | 3.  AMATEUR MODELS (gif, tiff)    |       |     650+MB OF GREAT      |
  >  |                         *-----*   |       |        SHAREWARE!        |
  >  *-------------------------| $89 |---*       *--------------------------*
  >                            *-----*

MS> Get the three newest and hottest adult CD's on the market for the super
  > low price of only $89, and receive a PowerPak Gold 3.0 shareware CD
  > absolutely free!  This offer is for a limited time only, so hurry!

Greetings Mike,
  I was just browsing the CD-ROM echo and noticed your getting it from
all sides!!! So what do I say? Damn the Torpedoes! Use the
Photon's..they do more damage!!
 Anyway, I was wondering if you plan to offer something like above with
one of the CD's being Digital Dreams instead ? I'd also appreciate a
catalog if you have any and I could get copies out in the Las Vegas area
(friends....you know the type.....<g>).
 My Address:
 Mike Furst
 3833 Iverson Lane
 North Las Vegas, NV 89030
                                       THANKS!!

___
 X QMPro 1.0 12-3456 X How do I set my laser printer to stun?
                     
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 2451
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/26/93  7:21p
Subj: Specials / Mailing                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  IA> Several of you have been writing or calling about our SPECIALS. We do
  IA> our advertise our monthly specials via postal mail. If you like to be
  IA> in our mailing list, please send your information to: GroupWare 4826
  IA> Tacoma Mall Blvd Tacoma, WA 98409 1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
  IA> 1-206-473-1634 or 1-800-277-5179 FAX We have hundreds of titles in
  IA> stock with great prices!..
  
Ismail, Pls add my name address to your catalog mailing list

Mike Mulcahy
9300 Hamilton Drive
Fairfax, VA 22031
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From: VINCENT KAYE                           Number: 2452
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/27/93  6:43p
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Manny!

Friday July 23 1993, Manny Wise writes to Vincent Kaye:

 >> Now back to busines...How much for NightOwl's 9.0?
 >> Thanks, good "old" buddy...:)...

 MW>> I just got it for 25.00..from 1-800-638-5757....5.00 shipping though...

     Thanks...I will persue it...!

     Vince...

# Origin: Gigs, Gigs and Gigs of Files...Two CD-ROM Drives and Ten CDs!

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 2453
  To: DAVID BALNITES                           Date: 07/28/93 12:41a
Subj: CD File Descriptions                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DB> I  am  thinking   of   buying   Night   Owl  9   and  i   was
 DB> wondering if there is a utility
 DB>   that   will   convert   the   PCBoard    type    multi-line
 DB>  Descriptions  into  the   new   RemoteAccess   2.00g1   type
 DB> multi-line Descriptions.


 I wrote one the other day to do that for someone.  I'll  make  it
 available for you to file  request  under  the  name  magic  name
 PCB2RA from me at 3625/441.  This  utility  will  also  work  for
 converting the PCBoard multi-line file descriptions to work  with
 Maximus and Quick BBS.

 Here are the docs...


 It  is written to work on the DIR* PCBoard type  files  found  in
 the /TEXT directory of cds set up with the "more" prompt.    This
 is what you should do to run this program:

 Make a directory and copy ALL the DIR* files from the rom's /TEXT
 directory.  Assuming your cd  drive  is  G:   you  can  do  this:

 Md \text
 cd\text
 xcopy G:\text\.


 Next you can put Mike.exe in your path or in the \text  directory
 then type and enter "Mike Dir*"


 When the program finishes the listings will  be  saved  to  files
 with the same name BUT with an "!" as the first character.   i.e.
 !Dir1    !Dir2   etc.

 If you are satisfied with the results of the new  format  of  the
 "!" files you can delete all the dir* files then change the  name
 of all the !dir* files to whatever you like.


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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 2454
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  6:14p
Subj: ADULT CD-ROMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G     *******   **  **  ***** ****** **    **
 e    **    **  **  **  **      **    **  **
  t   *******   **  **  *****   **     ****
      **    **  **  **     **   **      **
      *******    ****   *****   **      **

Hey Canadians!

We've got BUSTY BABES... The best adult disc, period.
Features thousands of sizzling pictures of the bustiest
babes in North America including (yes!) Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF (it rocks!), and it's BBS Ready.

Starting July 24th, you can get an extra bonus: your
copy will be hand-signed by moi, since I'm one of the
Canadian models <g>!      (Yes, I go all the way!)

Get BUSTY BABES, release 3.0 for a special price of $50
that includes all taxes. PLUS there's no delay or worry
about an unscheduled stop at customs, because they're
shipped direct to you from within Canada!

Only from CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA.

6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk., S4N 4G7
306-789-4654 Voice    306-789-8690 Fax


     -* .\\ichellea *-
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 2455
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  9:24p
Subj: WHOLESALING & RETAILING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA...306-789-4654
                  SAMPLE TITLES FROM OUR CATALOG
          -----------------------------------------------
AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK - FANTAZIA FONTS  - TEMPRA ACCESS
ANIMALS MULTIMEDIA          - SCI-FI/FANTASY  - CD WINBOX
ARTHUR'S TEACHER TROUBLE    - GAMES 1993      - SWIMWEAR '93
BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SCHOOL  - KINGS QUEST 5   - WINDOWS 1993
MIXED UP MOTHER GOOSE       - NIGHT OWL 9     - RETURN TO THE MOON
EDUCATION MASTER            - LEARNING FRENCH - PUBLISHER'S DREAM DISK
ENCYCLOPEDIA OF CLIP ART    - KIDS CAN READ   - MAYO CLINIC
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2456
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/27/93 12:48a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes, before 3.0.            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>>> Are you saying that you still stock the *ORIGINAL*  Rel 1.0 BB?

>>    I doubt it, I am sure he has 2.0--The 1.0's are real scarce
>>    and I have had dealers trying to find them for their own
>>    collection--

>>    Release 1.0---Has no text stories  (Pressed in Nov 92) only
>>    3,000 copies Release 2.0---Has the text stories (pressed in
>>    Jan 93) only 5,000 copies Release 3.0---Has 3.0 written on the
>>    cover and has SHOWOFF interface.

>>    PS--Sent you the new release overnight and am real curious to
>>    how you     liked the new image interface ???

Glad to say it Lee, but WE DO HAVE 1.0 IN STOCK !!!!   We just bought
out another cdrom dealer who had them on hand. 

I've checked them and they are the one and only's !!! 

Had 50 of them in stock, but now we're down to 20 and going fast.

Since we've sold so many of them, maybe I should send one to you and
have you sign it...grin !!!

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress makes it's motion picture debut as the "The Emailator"!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2457
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/27/93 12:48a
Subj: Re: Night Owls 9                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Can anybody match a legitamate ad for night owls 9 of $29 ??
>>    If so please tell me the soonest you could send it to me in
>>    VA...I had ordered one about 14 days ago and it still hasn't
>>    arrived so I called and cancled the damn thing...I need it as
>>    fast as possible...

 J.P. !!! Thier IN STOCK for $25. plus shipping. Interested, give
us a call at 1800-243-0517 and we'll be glad to ship you a copy the
same day !!

Hope this helps...

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2458
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/26/93  5:16a
Subj: Re: Trade adult CD for Adult            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 24 Jul 93  01:11:07, I heard Mike Shannon shout to Kevin Plummer:

KP>   I have the Adult CD Volcano, and would like to trade it for another adult
MS> KP>cd, If interested, Please let me know.
MS> 
MS> I'll trade you a Physical Therapy or a Storm 1 for it.  Give me a shout if
MS> interested.
MS> 
MS> .\\ike

Mike,

  Okay, I will trade you Volcano for Storm 1.  Please send the CD to:

Kevin Plummer
 1355 Clore Drive
 Martinsville,In  46151
  My phone is (317) 342-2034  Once I get your disk, then I will ship this one 
the same day.

                             .....|<evin

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2459
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/26/93  5:21a
Subj: Re: Night Owls 9                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 24 Jul 93  16:08:11, I heard J.P. Ladner shout to All:

JL> Can anybody match a legitamate ad for night owls 9 of $29 ??  If so
JL> please tell me the soonest you could send it to me in VA...I had ordered
JL> one about 14 days ago and it still hasn't arrived so I called and
JL> cancled the damn thing...I need it as fast as possible...

     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!


             
               Call Free Spirit And ask for Roc!
                      ******************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.
                      

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2460
  To: JOE SZAJEWSKI                            Date: 07/25/93  5:29p
Subj: Drives                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >> Anywhere from $29 to $49, depending on who you ask! ;)  Computer Works 
  >> will match all advertised prices.  Be sure to quote your source. 
  >> 
JS>   How are you on Hard Drives and the CD Rom drives themselves. ?? 
  >If I come up to your store from Kent County Delaware, how much to 
  >install the drives?  I have a 386 sx20 motherboard in a non table 
  >top case.  I'm looking for a full load of simms for my empty 
  >extension board .... :) 
 
Hi Joe.  I am not much into hardware sales.  I can sell the Mitsumi 
internal drives for $185, but I don't carry any other drives.  CD-Rom 
software is what I deal in.  I would install anything I sell for you at 
no additional charge, but I am located in southeast Alabama, and it sure 
would be a long drive for you! <G>  Thanks for asking though.  I'll send 
you a catalog in the mail.  Take care. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2461
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/25/93  5:59p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
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IG>I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed it. 
  >Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it? 
 
Sure, what would you like?  I carry most titles.  Give me a call. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
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From: RON URBASSIK                           Number: 2462
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93 11:39a
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     WILL BEAT ANY ADVERTISED DELIVERED PRICE!

Send to:  GOOSEBUMP GRAPHICS   BOX 5167   MENTOR, OH   44061
or call:  (216) 254-2609 (voice)  24-hours / 7 days
          (216) 254-1206 (fax)

Free Shipping, same day, by UPS 2nd day air.
Foreign orders - free air mail shipping world-wide.

[ ] MasterCard   [ ] Visa   [ ] Amex    [ ] Discover
[ ] Money Order  [ ] Check  [ ] COD

MISCELLANEOUS
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CADDIES, $6.  Sony type.  Stainless steel mechanism.

ADULT CD-ROMs
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101 SEX POSITIONS PART 1, $79. VIVID Professionally produced
adult education CD. Identifies 1st 50 positions with their proper
names and demonstrates in high color, motion & sound. 07/93.

101 SEX POSITIONS PART 2, $79. VIVID's final 51 positions. 07/93.

ADULT PALATE, $49, full color, hard-core photos from adult films.
Windows or MAC. 04/93.

ADULT REFERENCE LIBRARY, $59, 537 mb, 2964 files.  Transexuals,
pregnant, big boobs, baby tits, milky mams, lez-o-rama, orgies,
orientals, dildo delight, really weird, etc. Descriptions. Idiot
proof, just type "MENU". Semi wife-proof (disk says "Adult
Reference Library" on it. 03/93.

AFTER DARK TRILOGY, $59, 650 mb. Scenes from 3 After Dark XXX
Videos. Full motion, color & sound. 77 minutes. Windows. 06/93.

ALL BEAUTIES, $59, 667 mb, 3991 files. Swimsuit to XXX-rated
super vga pictures & movies. Built-in viewer programs. Menu
driven. No descriptions. 06/93.

AMATEUR MODELS, $59, 650 mb. Over 500 centerfold style shots of
beautiful women. Photographed by professionals from around the
world. All images in 2 formats: 1024x768x256 color GIFs and True
Color 24-bit 16.7 million color TIFFs. All original, never before
published images! Automatic installation viewer program.
FILES.BBS descriptions. 07/93.

ANIMATION FANTASIES 1, $49, over 100 live action movies. Easy
menu system. No descriptions. 01/93.

ANIMATION FANTASIES 2, $49, over 100 live action movies, some use
SoundBlaster. Easy menu system. No descriptions. 04/93.

ASIAN LADIES, $59, 336 mb, 1810 files, no movies, descriptions.
XXX GIFs of Oriental women. Wife-proof if insert is removed -
disk says only "AL" on it. 03/93.

BANGKOK, $69. From Germany. 444 mb of international erotica & art
clips. 07/93.

BEST of VIVID, $79. Full motion, color & sound segments from
VIVID porno films. 07/93.

BUSTY BABES, $59. 673 mb, 4176 files, no movies, descriptions.
Besides the usual hard-core, it is heavy on big boobs, plus over
800 nude film stars. SoundBlaster front loader. BBS ready. "Wife-
proof" if insert is removed (disk label says only "B.B."). 12/92.

DIGITAL DANCING, THE EROTIC CHALLENGE, $69. Interactive multime-
dia game. If you win, the dancer of your choice takes off every-
thing. 4 sexy dancers. IBM & MAC versions. 07/93.

DIGITAL DREAMS, $59. 632 mb, 2335 files. Menu. All original scans
1024x768x256 or 800x600x256. No BBS ads. All nudes, no men, no
penetration. Descriptions for PCBoard, Wildcat, Spitfire & QBBS.
06/93.

DIRTY TALK, $69. 35 minutes, full color, full motion, video &
sound. 4 gorgeous nude girls perform for you. Requires DOS 5.0 or
higher, 2mb RAM, 1 mb VGA card, mouse. 06/93.

ECSTASY HOT PICS, $59. 572 mb, 2600+ GIFs, 330+ movies, text
stories, 4265 files total. Sound. Menu, mouse support. Descrip-
tions, BBS ready. Not wife-proof because of title on disk. 09/92.

EROTIC ENCOUNTERS, $59. 710 MB! 4309 files. All GIFs. No descrip-
tions. "Wife-proof" if insert is removed (disk label says only
"E.E."). 10/92.

FAO 3 DISK SET, $79. 1892 mb, 2600+ files. GIFs, DLs, GLs, FLIs.

GAY WORLD 1, $69.

GAY WORLD 2, $69. 519 mb. 3414 all male gay GIFs plus 706 all
male JPGs. BBS descriptions. 07/93.

GBL 1, $59, (Gay, Bi, Lesbian). 347 mb, 2494 files, descriptions.
Wife proof if insert is removed. 11/92.

GIFFY GOLD, $59. 214 mb, 1055 files, descriptions. Wife-proof.
Amateur snapshots of San Diego girls range from G thru XXX.
These images are not on any other CD. IBM/MAC. 04/93.

GIRLS OF VIVID VOL 1, $69. Over 500 hand picked high & true color
stills of VIVID beauties. Menu driven, user friendly. Use Mag-
nifying Glass feature for closer look anywhere on screen. 07/93.

GIRLS OF VIVID VOL 2, $69. Over 500 additional high & true color
slides of VIVID beauties. Menu driven, user friendly. 07/93.

GLAMOUR GIRLS 1943, $69, nostalgic nude photos and quicktime
movies from the 1940's. IBM/MAC. 06/93.

HIDDEN OBSESSIONS, $69, Fractel digital compression, full screen,
30 frames/sec. If this one doesn't excite you, you're dead! DOS,
286 16 mhz or better. 90 minutes. 06/93.

HOUSE OF DREAMS, $69. Erotic fantasy movie by creator of Hidden
Obsessions. 76 min. MAC. 07/93.

HOUSE OF SLEEPING BEAUTIES, $69, full length digital movie. Sleep
next to the women of your dreams. PC or MAC. Requires 386SX 20mhz
or better, Windows 3.1 or higher, 4 mb free ram, at least 350 ms
CD-ROM drive, 4 mb free hard drive space, sound card.  05/93.

KAMA SUTRA, $79. The Indian Art of Sexual Positions. Watch for
your favorite as the Prince of Affection explores the various
possibilities of love with some of VIVID's most beautiful women.
Full motion, sound & High Color. 07/93.

LOVELY LADIES II, $59, 676 mb of .BMP files. 111 swimsuit
pictures, 113 lingerie shots, 85 sweaty women working out, 91
close-ups of female body parts. Each image in both 1024x768 &
640x480. No descriptions.

MANPOWER, $69, 600 mb, 1700 files. Hard-core gay GIFs. All sharp,
high-quality 800x600x256 original scans. No BBS ads. FILES.BBS.
Easy, just type 'MENU'. 07/93.

MOVING FANTASIES, $49, 49 FLI, 145 GLs, 194 movies total, desc-
riptions. Excellent menu makes it fun to use. Wife-proof. 01/93.

MY FIRST TIME, $79, full length adult feature film on CD-ROM
starring Nikki Dial. (DOS based) 2 disk set. 80 minutes. 05/93.
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From: RON URBASSIK                           Number: 2464
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93 11:39a
Subj: ADULT CD-ROM DESCRIPT 2/2               Refer: NONE
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MY PRIVATE COLLECTION, $59, 675 mb, 4094 files total.  Descrip-
tions. Movies. 114 Amateur Action GIFs. Wife-proof. 06/92.

MY PRIVATE COLLECTION 2, $59, 649 mb, 3340 files. No movies.
Descriptions. Wife-proof. 02/93.

NIGHTWATCH INTERACTIVE, $69. Adult adventure video. This one is
fun! Check out the action as you make the rounds from the beach
to the bedroom. PC & MAC versions. 05/93.

NIX PIX, HOT PIX 1, $89, 622 mb, 4901 files total. Descriptions.
Anal, beastiality, bondage, famous skin, fist, gay, transexuals,
water sports, etc. Semi wife-proof because of title. 12/91.

NIX PIX HOT PIX 2, $49, 563 mb, 2950 files, descriptions.  Anal,
bondage, famous skin, fist, gay, transexuals, water sports, etc.
Semi wife-proof because of title. 04/92.

NIX PIX HOT PIX 3, $49, 629 mb, 4080 files, descriptions.  Anal,
bondage, famous skin, fist, gay, transexuals, water sports, etc.
Semi wife-proof because of title. 12/92.

NIX PIX HOT PIX 4, $49, 598 mb, 3511 files descriptions. Contains
only the Nix Pix Windy City original GIFs & stories ('WC' file-
names only) from the Hot Pix 1, 2 & 3 CDs. Semi wife-proof.12/92.

NIX PIX HOT PIX 5, $49, 588 mb, 3338 files, descriptions.  Anal,
bondage, famous skin, fist, gay, transexuals, water sports, etc.
Semi wife-proof because of title. 06/93.

PC PIX 1, $59, 646 mb, 5500+ GIFs, 200+ movies, descriptions on
floppy. 640x480x256 or higher.  Co-op project of Nitelog Imaging,
Gabby's Lounge, Garlique Graphics, Twylight Zone, Prizm, Farmer's
Daughter & Sugar Magnolia. Not wife-proof. 05/92.

PC PIX 2, $59, 633 mb, 3001 files. Most are 800x600x256 or high-
er. From Picture Gallery, Hi Tech Place, Library, NightHawk,
Twilight Zone. Descriptions. Wife-proof. 09/92.

PC PIX 3, $59, 671 mb, 3590 files. No movies. From Nightlog
Imaging, Garlique Graphics, Hi Tech Place, NightHawk, Gabby's
Lounge. Wife-proof. Descriptions. 02/93.

PHYSICAL THERAPY, $39, 614mb of GIF, FLI, GL, DL files. 3381
files. No descriptions. Wife-proof. Formerly XXX EXTREME. 09/92.

PIXURE ROM 1, General Appeal & Nudes, $59, 510+mb, 3000+ files.
1/2 G-rated, 1/2 nudes. Descriptions. IBM or MAC. 08/91.

PIXURE ROM 2, Perversia Galore, $59, 640+mb. 40 mb animations.
All adult. Descriptions. IBM or MAC.

PIXURE ROM 3, Hedonistic Tendencies, $59, 645+mb. 620 mb GIFs, 25
mb 32k color Targas. 500+ 1024x768x256 GIFs, 225 800x600x256
GIFs. All adult. Descriptions. IBM or MAC. 09/92.

PIXURE ROM Triple Exposure, $109.  Volumes 1, 2 & 3.

PORK-WARE 1, $59, 655 mb, 2148 files, no movies, descriptions.
Wife-proof if insert is removed. 04/93.

PORK-WARE 2, $59, 649 mb, 3,543 files, 135 movies, descriptions.
Wife-proof if insert is removed. 05/93.

PRIVATE PICTURES, $49, 135 mb, 600 GIFs, 70 movies, no descrip-
tions. Menu makes it easy to use! Includes free poster. 12/91.

RIMFIRE PACIFIC, $59, color & sound film clips from the best
adult features. Video for Windows software included. Requires
Windows 3.1 (or Windows 3.0 with Multi-Media extensions). 03/93.

SECRETS, $69. 80 min Quicktime 1.5 movie. 11 gorgeous women that
will do anything for a buck. MAC.

SEEDY ROM 1 thru 6, $49 ea. Volumes 1 thru 5 are all GIFs, volume
6 also has movies & text files. Duplicate checked 3 ways. Photo
Dex gives pages of mini pics. Click with mouse to blow up to full
screen. SPECIAL - all 6 for $199! Good for export - "wife-proof"
disk label says only "SEEDY ROM 1" with no hint that it contains
adult material. Descriptions. 08/92.

SEEDY ROM 7th HEAVEN, $49. 698 mb, 3701 files, 2900+ GIFs.
Descriptions. Wife-proof. 10/92.

SEEDY ROM MOVIE DISK #1, $59, the best in professional & amateur
adult movies. 6 titles from 7 min to 22 min long. Over 1 hr of
full color videos with stereo sound. Windows required. 05/93.

SEXCAPADES, THE MOVIE, $79. 600 mb, 256 color movie with sound.
Group of friends playing Sexcapades computer game. Fills 3/4
screen, 30 minutes. Requires at least a 386SX computer. 05/93.

SEYMORE BUTTS, INTERACTIVE ADVENTURES OF, $69. You call the shots
as you join Seymore & his camera in exploring his neighborhood &
help him meet & mate with the girl of his dreams. 100+ minutes of
custom shot digital video. 1st person point of view puts you in
the action. Windows & MAC versions. 07/93.

SMUTWARE, $59, 640 mb, 1001 1024x768x256, 2010 800x600x256, 3011
gifs total, 101 movies. No descriptions. Not wife-proof. 02/93.

SO MUCH STAREWARE, $59, 580 mb, 2923 files, descriptions, PCBoard
format. 100 mb R-rated GIFs, 309 mb XXX, 171 mb XXX movies, some
with sound. Easy menu & help file. 02/92.

SOUTHERN BEAUTIES, $59, 675 mb. Nudes, not hard-core. 1000 GIFs
at 1024x768x256 from original 35mm slides. 300 mb of best GIFs in
24-bit True Color. Menu driven, user friendly. 07/93.

STORM 1, $39, 700 mb, 4800 GIFs, 1400 ZIP files, 7395 files
total. Descriptions. Movies, 50 mb of text files. 1st adult cd-
rom. Wife-proof. 08/91.

STORM 2, $49, 625 mb, 4800+ GIFs, 90 movies, 5150 files total.
Install program gives automatic slide show. Besides the usual
stuff, it also contains hermaphrodites, 2.4mb gay, 10.5 mb
transexuals. Wife-proof. 04/92.

STORM 3, $59, 619 mb, 4531 files. Descriptions. 112 mb male pics.
Semi wife-proof (says Adam & Eve Portfolio on disk). 11/92.

STORM 1, 2 and 3 SPECIAL, $125, for all 3!

VISUAL FANTASIES, $59, 466 mb, 2633 files (all GIFs). Bi-sexual,
transexual, fist, bondage, big-boobs, pregnant. Descriptions.
Semi wife-proof (disk has picture of girl's face). 10/91.

VOLCANO, $59, 374 mb, 1475 GIFs, 1515 files total. No movies, 6
32000 color Targa files. No descriptions. Least pornographic CD-
ROM, but not wife-proof. 02/92.

WICKED, $79, Playboy Playmate Teri Weigel in 1st XXX Kodak Photo
CD. Shot during filming of 'Wicked'. 3 versions - DOS, Windows &
MAC. Free Kodak Photo CD Access Software & Photo Sampler CD-ROM
(2 CD-ROMs total). 06/93.

WOMEN OF VENUS, $59, swimsuit edition. Windows or DOS. Background
music. User friendly interface. MS-DOS, MAC or Amiga.
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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 2466
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/20/93  3:45a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
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In a message of <16 Jul 93  18:08:01>, Michael Benge (1:133/716) writes:

 >That still does not change the fact that he is a liar, a fraud, and a 
 >thief, now does it?
I think we have all had enough of your personal vendetta, this is a CD-ROM 
sale echo not the complaint department. If you can't conduct business here 
please leave, I am tired of reading your messages. 

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From: JIM TAYLOR                             Number: 2467
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  1:01p
Subj: Digital Dreams Ero Tek                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Digital Dreams Ero Tek R-rated cd-rom, for sale for $20.00 U.S.
You pay shipping.  Send netmail to 1:310/5 or leave a message here.

Jim Taylor

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From: JIM TAYLOR                             Number: 2468
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/23/93  1:09p
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>As to graininess of the images, if your staisfied with the quality of
BJ>the images, then you're a happy owner. As I said in my review: "...what
BJ>follows is one person's opinion."  Others on the echo have agreed with
BJ>my assessment of graininess. I admitted that I didn't know where it came
BJ>from; I speculated about a lot of causes. If you say apparent sharpness
BJ>is likely due to "pixel editing", that's OK by me. In that case I'd say
BJ>DD's producers should have done some (or a lot) of that, too.

Yep, I agree. I don't know what happened, but it looks like a bad conversion
or bad scanner, or bad images at the start. I would put money on the scanner
or the graphic format converter.


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From: JIM TAYLOR                             Number: 2469
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 07/23/93  1:09p
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>As to graininess of the images, if your staisfied with the quality of
BJ>the images, then you're a happy owner. As I said in my review: "...what
BJ>follows is one person's opinion."  Others on the echo have agreed with
BJ>my assessment of graininess. I admitted that I didn't know where it came
BJ>from; I speculated about a lot of causes. If you say apparent sharpness
BJ>is likely due to "pixel editing", that's OK by me. In that case I'd say
BJ>DD's producers should have done some (or a lot) of that, too.

Yep, I agree. I don't know what happened, but it looks like a bad conversion
or bad scanner, or bad images at the start. I would put money on the scanner
or the graphic format converter.


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 2470
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93 10:10p
Subj: Audio Cables                            Refer: NONE
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Does anyone know a good source for audio cables? I need a cable to go from a
Sony CDU-31A to a Soundblaster Pro. I also need a cable to go from a
Mitsumi/Tandy Cd-ROm to it's controller card. Any help is appreciated...


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 2471
  To: BRIAN STARK                              Date: 07/23/93 11:00a
Subj: 7th guest                               Refer: NONE
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In a message of <19 Jul 93  00:32:06>, Brian Stark (1:290/8) writes:
 >If Michael Sells does not take you up on your offer of nix pix 3 + $10, 
 >for 7th guest, I will. I have done business with you before, and would be 
 >confident enough to send my cd, the same day you send yours. In excellent 
 >condition. To make things roll a little quicker, you can call me at 
 >515-278-5427, from 9:00am to 3:00pm central time. Or if you prefer you 
 >can leave a message in this echo.
Sounds good. I'll send mine as soon as I get an address. You can send yours to
Ryan Denke, 5030 E 19th, Casper, Wy 82609. Thanks!


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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2472
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 07/26/93  6:17p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
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 -=> On 07-24-93  16:28, Ed bantered to Israel about THE 7TH GUEST <=-

 ED> I would be willing to make that trade.  Give me a call at the bellow #
 ED> and we can talk.

I tried to call, but you weren't there. What CD(s) where you thinking of
trading? When I see The 7th Guest advertised it's usualy for around $60.

Israel "Martin" Gomberg
(210)945-9672



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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 2473
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/26/93  8:32p
Subj: Re: The 7Th Guest                       Refer: NONE
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                 *****  Quoting Israel Gomberg to All  *****

 IG> I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed
 IG> it. Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
 IG> -TWITCH the Vorpal Bunny-

Israel, I have Asian Ladies available in trade for 7th Guest if interested.
As it is an adult CD, you'll need to state "over 21", as I don't wish to
"corrupt" (overjoy, more likely!) any young and impressionable minds.
Thanks in advance.

,\\ark


 
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From: ROBBIE WILKES                          Number: 2474
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 07/26/93  1:00p
Subj: Lost address                            Refer: NONE
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JL>RW>Am looking for the fellow that I agreed to purchase the Digital Dreams CD
JL>  >from.  I have been awaiting my new set of checks, and can't find your
JL>  >number or address.

JL>If you can't find him, I have one used copy for sale for $20 plus $2.90
JL>shipping.  (205) 793-4481
JL>                                                        Jim...

Hey Jim,

Well, might be willing to take you up on it.  Am gonna post my message
one more time, and hopefully I'll hear from him.  Wouldn't want to leave
a deal just hanging like that.

Thanks for the offer, and will keep it in mind if don't find him.

Later,

Robbie Wilkes

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From: ROBBIE WILKES                          Number: 2475
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/27/93 11:01a
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
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IG>I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed it.
IG>Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
IG>                   -TWITCH the Vorpal Bunny-

Hey Israel,

Will trade the Volcanoe adult CD for it.  Let me know if you're
interested.

Take care,

Robbie Wilkes
(912) 471-8381 after 6:00pm EST

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2476
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/26/93  7:32p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
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In a message to Jackie Rogers <07-26-93 07:57> Ismail Arslangiray wrote:

IA> How many Mitsumi have you sold? And what is your technical
IA> back-ground?

Based on the problems it appears you have been causing my firm, I respectfully
request that you not correspond with me.  Thank you for understanding.

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From: PAUL NALEY                             Number: 2477
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93 10:22p
Subj: SR Media Dealings??                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

About a month ago a firm called "SR Media" offered the "Digital Dreams -
The McHenry Collection" ForSale. I sent in the requried payment, but as
of today I still have not received the CD ROM disk from them. I even
tried Directory Assistance and found that this firm is not listed.

The SR Media adverstisement was placed in this echo.

Has anyone had any dealings with this firm and actually received what
they ordered? Also if anyone has a current phone # for SR Media I would
really appreciate the information.

Since this firm is located in Calgary, Alberta Canada does anyone know
how to start formal procedures for Mail Fraud in Canada and who to
contact?

Thank you in advance....

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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 2478
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  8:07a
Subj: Software/Books for Sale                 Refer: NONE
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I have the following software/books for sale:

Ultima VII - The Black Gate. 3.5" disks.                        $28
Ultima VII clue book - Key to the Black Gate                    $ 8
    (have been offered $20 for the above 2 items, which seems
    too cheap... Others?)
Ultima Underworld clue book - Mysteries of the Abyss            $ 7
Ultima VI - The False Prophet. 5.25" disks.                     $23
Energizer Bunny for Windows. Screen saver, etc. 3.5" disks      $ 7
Grammatik 5 for Windows. Both 3.5"/5.25" disks.                 $28

Prices include shipping. All software is in original pkg with all docs, etc.
If you're local to Kansas City, will deduct shipping ($2-3 per item) if you
want to pick up. Leave msg here, or call 913-888-5201 ext.257 (M-F 8a-4p
Central time, or leave voice mail).

Will possibly consider trade for Lemmings game, or something nifty on
CD ROM!

- Heather
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2479
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/26/93 11:28p
Subj: Night Owls 9                            Refer: NONE
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JL>Can anybody match a legitamate ad for night owls 9 of $29 ??  If so 
  >please tell me the soonest you could send it to me in VA...I had ordered 
  >one about 14 days ago and it still hasn't arrived so I called and 
  >cancled the damn thing...I need it as fast as possible... 
 
Computer Works will sell Night Owls 9 for $29.  Give me a call at 
(205) 793-4481 to place your order.  I ship all orders out 2 Day 
Priority Mail.  Be sure to mention this message to get this price. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2480
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 07/26/93 11:30p
Subj: Terri Weigel - Wicked                   Refer: NONE
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  >Do you have the cd of teri Weigel pics? 
  >I've seen it advertised in the back of pc computing. 
 
How much did they want for it.  Computer Works is selling it for $59. 
 
                                                Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 2481
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/26/93  4:32p
Subj: Re: Software sale/trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll get the money in the mail tomorrow for Adobe Type Manager for Windows.
Thanks for holding it for me.

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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 2482
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/27/93 12:18a
Subj: Re: SHOWOFF! Interface-The 90's         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Lee Noga to Vince Sorensen <=-

 VS>> I think the interface for Busty Babes Release 3.0 is
 VS>> the best, period, and I've _made_ excellent interfaces for other
 VS>> Of course, I'm biased because I distribute it (and Erotek's Digital
 VS>> Dreams), but I use much less bandwidth for my propaganda <g>!

 LN> Can't wait until the windows version of this is ready ! You'll find it
 LN> on our future discs as well-

Any chance of an OS/2 version ??  I can run the DOS or Windows version under
OS/2, but it would be nice to have a native OS/2 version.
 
... Sex on TV can't hurt you, unless you fall off!
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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2483
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 07/27/93  2:28a
Subj: NEW CD RELEASE - Southern               Refer: NONE
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BR>             Announces The NEW RELEASE of   "Southern Beauties"

BR>675 Megs-OVER 65 Top Models-1000 GIFs-1024x768x256 From Original 35mm Slides
BR>Includes 300 Megs of the Best GIFs in 24 bit True Color. Installs Quickly &

How did you get 24 bit True color in Gif format? Isn't Gif, by standard,
limited to 256 colors?

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * For a photographer, life is just a bed of poses.


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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 2484
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 07/27/93  8:32a
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
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HK->Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
DS>I would be happy to purchase it from you,  please tell me your address and
DS>where to send the $28 and do I have to pay for postage and I'll enclose the

    Thanks. I've already had a couple other people contact me on this, so
    believe it's sold. If neither of those come through with a purchase,
    I'll get back with you.

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 2485
  To: JOSEPH THOMAS                            Date: 07/27/93  8:36a
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
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 HK> Thanks for the message on the encyclopedia. I've had one other person
 HK> contact me on it, and I left them a message back. If they decide not to
 HK> take the CD, I'll drop you a note again to see if you want it.
JT>         I sure would like that. I am holding the 28.00 for this purpose

    Still no word from the other guy. I'll leave him another message to
    let him know that if he doesn't contact me by Saturday, it's sold to
    someone else (you). I'll leave you a message this weekend letting you
    know one way or another.

- Heather
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2486
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  1:21a
Subj: THE MONSTER IS BACK!  1/2               Refer: NONE
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 So many of you sent private mail and phone messages requesting that I
 not do away with the "monster", that I really had no choice in the
 matter!  Here is our updated list, with several new titles, and as
 always - the lowest possible pricing.  Of course our Bottom-Line
 price guarantee is still in effect:  If you find a lower advertised
 price in this echo on any item we stock, we'll beat it by 5%.  (No
 closeouts please)  Let Starvector be your "BOTTOM LINE PRICING LEADER".

 You folks wanted it, so here it is . . . . .

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 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Microsoft Musical Instruments.58.00
 7th Guest.....................52.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........58.00
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    MIDI Music Shop...............29.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........24.50
 American Business Phonebk 1...17.00    Monarch Notes.................64.00
 American Business Phonebk 2...19.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 Amiga AB20....................15.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...38.50
 Aminet Amiga (New!)...........15.00    Monster Media 93 (New!).......33.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......27.00    Mother of All Clipart.........23.50
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....27.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....30.00
 Audubon's Birds...............25.00    National Business Directory...39.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............25.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    National Parks................29.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 8.0.................27.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl 9.0 (In stock!).....33.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....13.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Business Master...............20.00    North American Fax Book.......39.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    Ocean Digital Imagery.........34.50
 California Collection.........17.00    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...19.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    Our Solar System..............13.00
 CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....29.50
 CD Winbox (New!)..............27.00    PC-SIG #12....................27.00
 CD Grab Bag Disc..............19.00    PC Gameroom...................27.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Pentaminoes...................32.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phethean's Shareware #1.......15.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phoenix 3.0...................13.00
 Clipart Galore................28.00    Pier 1........................27.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 2 (In stock!)............35.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........27.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....28.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....22.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......88.00
 Composer Quest................35.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........125.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency... 98.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....69.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........34.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....69.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Conan the Cimmerian...........33.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........27.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Crossword Cracker.............24.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Reader's Library..............31.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Reference Library.............27.50
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....36.00
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...42.00
 Desktop Bookshop..............27.50    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....27.50
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......25.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...28.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............34.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 DTPro.........................28.50    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Eagle Eye Shareware (New!)....25.00    Shareware Online..............28.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Overload............13.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2487
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  1:21a
Subj: THE MONSTER IS BACK!  2/2               Refer: NONE
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 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Electronic Cookbook (New!)....33.00    Shareware Studio 1............20.00
 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Shareware Studio 2 (New!).....25.00
 Empire Clipart................29.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...25.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........15.00    Sights & Sounds...............25.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......29.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Font Master 2.................28.00    So Much Shareware 2...........27.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....28.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    Software Vault 1..............25.00
 Game Arena (New!).............13.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....27.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..29.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Soundware Collection (New!)...27.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    SoundWAV......................28.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Global Explorer...............93.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Space Quest IV................25.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Grolier's Ill. Ency. 2.0......38.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Grolier's MM Ency. 5.0........48.00    Street Atlas USA..............86.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency. 1.5.......48.00    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...25.00    Super CD 2....................27.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....16.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Super Games For Windows.......16.00
 Hamware 1993 (New!)...........28.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Technotools...................13.00
 House of Games................24.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..27.50
 Illustrated Holy Bible........47.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.50
 Jets & Props..................31.50    Total Baseball................29.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00    Trump Castle..................33.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. & World Atlas............29.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 King's Quest V................25.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........27.50    Up All Night Shareware (New!).19.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    VGA Spectrum 1................15.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00    VGA Spectrum 2................22.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    Visions of Saturn.............25.00
 Libris Britannia..............42.00    Vital Signs...................45.00
 Lion's Share..................24.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Loom..........................25.00    Window Master.................20.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........37.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Wing Commander II Deluxe......57.50
 Magnum One Shareware..........27.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Magnum Sight & Sound..........27.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......25.00
 Manhole.......................36.50    World Atlas MPC...............27.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............28.00    World Traveler (New!).........18.00
 Mega Clipart (New!)...........29.00    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......58.00    World Vision 3-Pak............45.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2488
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  1:22a
Subj: ADULT CD-ROM DISCOUNTS                  Refer: NONE
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------

 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    PC-PIX 3......................30.00
 After Dark Trilogy (New!).....45.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 All Beauties (New!)...........36.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Amateur Models (New!).........35.00    Porkware 2 (New!).............37.00
 Animation Fantasies 1 or 2....29.00    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Busty Babes...................33.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Busty Babes 3.0 (New!)........35.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........29.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........49.00
 Erotic Encounters.............36.00    Seymore Butts Interactive.....49.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Smutware......................32.00
 Girls of Vivid (New!).........45.00    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................29.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......35.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................29.00    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................29.00    Storm 2.......................28.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............29.00    Storm 3.......................29.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......28.00    Storm 3-Pak...................75.00
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....45.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 Nightwatch Interactive (Wow!).49.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 PC-PIX 1......................30.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00
 PC-PIX 2......................30.00    X-Treme (New!)................36.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2489
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/27/93  1:22a
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
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MW>Well, thanks for reply, but I am waiting to hear from someone who said he
can
MW>sell it for 25.00:)....I am sure you will understand...

Manny,

As we advertise, we'll beat any legit ad in here by 5%.  Gimme a call!  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2490
  To: JIM HILGEFORD                            Date: 07/27/93  1:22a
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!                        Refer: NONE
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JH>        I am interested in Educational CD-Rom's.
JH>        Example Barney Bear, Arthur Goes to School, Grandma & Me.
JH>        Do you have anything along these lines. Appreciate
JH>        any help I can get.

No longer carry the Barney Bear CD's because of the poor quality.
Have Arthur's Teacher Trouble at $29.  Just Grandma & Me is $42.

Call if I can be of any further help to you.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: BOB HAY                                Number: 2491
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 07/27/93 11:36a
Subj: Electricity & Magnetism Disk            Refer: NONE
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I read a review of it in a maglet called "The CD-ROM Reporter", July?Aug 1993.

According to the review it was written by Bob Gomersall and has a "very Eurpean
flair" (whatever that is).  The review says it is aimed at junior and senior
high school students in mind.

Apparently, you can review a series of science lessons or answer worksheets,
and there is narrative, text, animation and photos.

I got no information out of the article as to specifically what topics were
covered by the lessons.

Hope this helps.  So, is anyone out there selling the durn thing?


Bob.



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From: HAROLD WEISS                           Number: 2492
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  2:05p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like recommendations and/or Prices for CD's (Shareware and GIF) that
are BBS ready to interface with RemoteAccess in a Files.BBS format.  Thank
you.

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From: HAROLD WEISS                           Number: 2493
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  2:15p
Subj: Mailing List                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To any Vendors: WE HAVE MONEY ! :)

Please send us a current catalog so we can buy from you.

Harold Weiss
1910 Marlen
Pasadena, Tx 77502

Looking for BBS ready cd's especially, With descriptions in FILES.BBS format.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2494
  To: JIM HILGEFORD                            Date: 07/27/93  4:52p
Subj: Re: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    1/2           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You sent this to the wrong guy. I think you meant for Doug to get this
request.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2495
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/27/93  4:54p
Subj: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I think I'll wait until you can tell me a bit more about them. Thanks.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2496
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/27/93  5:13p
Subj: 2 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

R-r-r-r-r-oger! I'm the patient sort. 
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: NEIL ALLEN                             Number: 2497
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/26/93 12:45p
Subj: Cd'S Shipping To Canada?                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 VS> Why don't you just order from us, here in Canada? Did you know that
 VS> 30% of the adult discs in the market are actually pressed in Quebec?
 VS> Busty Babes & Southern Beauties are two I've got sitting in front of
 VS> me right now with MADE IN CANADA stickers on them. I can often get them
 VS> drop-shipped directly from the factory, without them crossing a single
 VS> international border. Plus, you can get anything I do get from the
 VS> states at prices similar to what you're already paying in the states
 VS> *WITHOUT* the delay, without the customs risk, and without the
 VS> postal/courier surcharges. For example, Hot Pix 3 is $40 Canadian, GST
 VS> Included, rather than $29.95 US (after 1.30 exchange & 7% GST becomes
 VS> $41 Canadian...sample price picked out of a "SUMMER SPECTACULAR
 VS> BLOWOUT" message I read in this echo today).

 VS> Give us a call - you won't regret it!

 VS> Vince
 VS> 306-789-4654 Voice
 VS> 306-789-8690 Fax
 VS> 306-789-8682 BBS

        Would you have an address you could post so I can write and get a
list of the CD's you have availible along with a price list as well?


___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 2498
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  9:50a
Subj: Netware PD/Shareware CD-ROM             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its Netware CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
801 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2499
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 07/26/93  7:26a
Subj: Dork.Dork.Dork                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MK> BT> why do you pick apart the spelling in my messages for???????

MK>    It annoys me to read illiterate messages posted in any echo.  Unless
MK>    you are from Arkansas, there is simply no excuse.  I get tired of
MK>    hearing "its just computers, i ain't needs to spel it rite!"  Most
MK>    individuals that gravitate towards computers as a hobby are generally
MK>    better educated and certainly more willing to learn than those who do
MK>    not.  However, your posts are not helping sustain my theorem.

A person may be educated and also a stuck-up jerk.  Education
comes to open minds.

Are you suggesting that if a person is unable to meet your
education threshold criteria, that they should not participate
in the same echos as you?

I'll bet the universe revolves around you, eh?

MK>    I believe I already do.  "dude?"  Are you from the Left Coast by any
MK>    chance?  The name "Bubba" must be a real topic of conversation out
MK>    there at cocktail parties.

He's from Florida, as anyone who could read his originline might
determine.

MK> * Origin: The Outland Cary,N.C. (919)380-0686 1:151/147 (1:151/147.0)

While you were busy making regional stereotypes your sysop got
drunk at his still and put his node number in the origin twice.

 * SLMR 2.1 * 

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2500
  To: EDWARD CROUSER                           Date: 07/26/93  7:26a
Subj: Re: SHERLOCK HOLMES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EC> EB> It needs a 350 ms or better to look and sound smooth.

EC>        I have a demo of it that keeps crashing. My CDROM drive is
EC> 800ms and I thought that was probably the cause.

I haven't seen the demo, but the actual game worked fine in my
CDR-2500 (Hitachi, 800ms.  Depending on detail, full-color video
may have paused every 20-30 seconds for about a second to gather
more data, but it didn't detract from the game, and the game
didn't crash.

 * SLMR 2.1 * Give me liberty or give me death.

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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 2501
  To: DON NELSON                               Date: 07/26/93  2:21a
Subj: Toshiba CDROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DN>Can you tell me what the maximum capacity CD-ROM this drive can handle.  I'm
DN>having a problem with mine (the one I purchased from you). I'm getting the
DN>following error:
DN>"File read/write error-drive may be open or disk unformatted"

Don, I have a Toshiba 3401 and according to the manual, it can read
690/788 MB on a CD.  I have a CD that is 614MB in size and I get the
same error message...  The problem might be the drivers or something.

Anyone want to guess?


 * OLX 2.1 TD * All wiyht.  Rho sritched mg kegtops awound?


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2502
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/27/93  8:19p
Subj: Re: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    1/2           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BJ> P-L-E-A-S-E don't start another one of those silly 
 BJ> debates over who has
 
I won't.  Just picking at Mike to have some fun with him for being awrny.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2503
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/27/93  8:20p
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> Hogwash?  Boy, there's a term I haven't heard in a while.  Like I said
 MS> Doug, you're certainly welcome to "call my bluff" 
 MS> any time you see fit.
 MS> If it IS "hogwash", then you should have no trouble 
 MS> proving it.  Go ahead
 MS> and advertise them for less than $10, and let's see what happens!  8)

Hehe.  No thanks Mike.  They are one of my slowest sellers.  I don't need a
horse in this race <g>.  Some of their discs are ok, but some are not that
great, such as the considerable amount of dupes on Clip Art goliath, but for
the money, dollar for dollar, it is not a waste of money at all.
Just having some fun with ya.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2504
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/27/93  8:50p
Subj: Sell Me 2 CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> We have two brand new ones:  Southern Beauties and 
 MS> Amateur Models, both of
 MS> which **I believe** are all original scans.  $35 ea. or both for $69.

That's what the author claims I believe on the CD.  Blaine was the producer I
believe....

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2505
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/27/93  8:52p
Subj: Night Owls 9                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JL> Can anybody match a legitamate ad for night owls 9 of $29 ??  If so
 JL> please tell me the soonest you could send it to me 
 JL> in VA...I had ordered
 JL> one about 14 days ago and it still hasn't arrived so I called and
 JL> cancled the damn thing...I need it as fast as possible...
 
Who did you order it from?  We can match any ad posted here in the echo.  We
can also deliver.  Give us a call at 800-547-7817 to order the NOPV9.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2506
  To: DAVID PATTERSON                          Date: 07/27/93  8:54p
Subj: CDROM_SALE Antics                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DP> WHAT! He send your disk BACK! So...you are out some postage?
 DP> Why has the whole world had to read or skip through this junk
 DP> because of a dollar or 2 ?
 DP> PLEASE give everyone a break.
 DP> Thanks

That is a real risk when you do COD also.  I had a lady in Alabama stiff me for
one that came back today and now I'm out over $8 and this guy is crying about
$2?  It is just a chance you take.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2507
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/27/93  8:56p
Subj: HERE WE ARE                             Refer: NONE
Read: 07/29/93  6:49a                       Private: No 

 TH> OK, we're all proud... Please end this thread.

 TH> tim
 TH> moderator
 
Was just curious if you are going to implement the new rules that Bob has
posted in the CDROM echo....

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2508
  To: JIM HILGEFORD                            Date: 07/27/93  8:57p
Subj: Re: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    1/2           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JH>         I am interested in Purchasing CD-Rom for Education. 
 JH>         Do you have anything Like Barney Bear, Arthur Goes to School
 JH>         Or Grandma and Me?
 
We stock the Barney Bears and Just Grandma and me....

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2509
  To: JOHN ROBINSON                            Date: 07/27/93  9:05p
Subj: Re: Adult Titles                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JR> Not a bad idea.. I would not consider buying from a 
 JR> vendor who shows their
 JR> dislike for some one in their advertisments.. Be it 
 JR> the President or anyone
 JR> else for that Matter..

You democrats are all alike <G D&R>.

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From: RON RICHMOND                           Number: 2510
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/27/93  1:00a
Subj: Libel                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>MB>you to send yours in return.  Instead you shipped mine back.  In as much,
MS>MB>caused me to lose a total of $2.90.  Since you did so after the deal
MS>Geez, I'LL send you the three bucks if you'll just stuff a sock in it!
         ^^^^
MS>.\\ike

  Mike- I won't write any of those whiney little annoying messages.If you
  send me three bucks also.      Thanks,       Ron.
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From: HERMAN WIGGINS                         Number: 2511
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93 10:39p
Subj: JemDisk                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the latest release of
JemDisk..Cd if so please post here...Been looking all over for a deal
for a sysop, need something with about 7000 files on it, anything less
forget it..also must be at reasonalble priced...perfer lots of gif
files, also I have a copy of Wildcat Gold CD-Rom will be willing to
trade for a good adult cd-rom disk..or even make me an offer..see ya
around the net..Please reply if you are seriously interested in this
disk...or if you can guide me in the right direction for a good
shareware BBS ready cd-rom disk...

 * WCE 1.10/2094 * -> Have fun.  Keep it under 80MPH and drink milk.

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From: CRAIG CURRY                            Number: 2512
  To: LARISSA KOHLER                           Date: 07/27/93 10:44p
Subj: Walnut Creek Games CDROM                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Larissa,

They've been putting off my order too. I am looking forward to the CD
"if" it ever ships. Reminds me of some hardware venders I know... <g>.

I guesse I will keep my order standing, but I'm wondering if I shouldn't
get another CD in the mean time.

Take care,

         Craig Curry
         Parkersburg, WV

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From: CAM LIRONDELLE                         Number: 2513
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/27/93  6:07a
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

S9>> michael, my drive arrived yesterday.  took about 15 mins to install
S9>> and it works just fine.  thanks again. runs like a champ under os/2.

 MK> I still have a couple left if you know anyone.

 MK> 205-837-5053
I am interested!  How much?







Cam Lirondelle

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't Read Mail Without it!
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From: CAM LIRONDELLE                         Number: 2514
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  6:07a
Subj: cd rom drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

wanted good multispin cdrom that will work with a future domain scsi
controller

Cam Lirondelle

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 2515
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  3:45a
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                 ****  Four-Star Enterprises  ****
                       Custom CDROM Service

  Our CDROM Recorder is fired up, and ready to serve you!   We can
  produce a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive
  overnight!

   o Complete confidentiality assured.  Your data will NOT be pilfered.
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   o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
   o Use as a master to transfer data to a pressing facility.
   o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
   o Great for:  BBS Files, Document Imaging, Permanent Archival
                 Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
   o In MOST cases, 24 hour turnaround is possible.
   o Free UPS Blue label shipping to the Continental U.S.
   o COMING SOON!  Compact Disk AUDIO Production!  COMING SOON!

Pricing for Custom CD production:

o 527 Meg:  o $1 per megabyte UP TO $139.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 139MB
            o Minimum charge $85 for less than 85MB.
            o $50 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o 650 Meg:  o $1 per Megabyte UP TO $144.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 144MB
            o Minimum charge $90 for less than 90MB.
            o $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o CD Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee.

   Data formats Supported:               Software Supported:
 ---------------------------           ----------------------- o 60MB
DC600/6XXX Streaming Tape.  o Sytos Plus o Mountain Filesafe
                                   o Everex Tape

o QIC 40/80  (Colorado Jumbo 250)  o PCTools o Colorado Software

o Floppy (At additional cost)      o Fastback 3.0 o PCTools

o Hard Disk

** 4mm DAT, and 125/250MB 5.25" Streaming tape will be available SOON **

Terms:

  Prepay for service via Certified check or money order.  Personal
  checks must clear bank before production begins.  SORRY, we are
  not able to accept your Visa/Mastercard at this time.

*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***
 For the months of July and August, all orders qualify
 for a 10% discount from our CURRENT pricing.  Offer
 ends August 31, 1993.
*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***

Notice:

Four Star Enterprises will NOT be a party to the creation of "elite", or
pirated software collections on CDROM.  Such activity is morally WRONG and
illegal.  If this is your intention, please do not waste my time or yours.

For further information, please File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node
1:239/900.0 at V.32bis speeds, or call our voice number.

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Four Star Enterprises
517-865-6800 Voice (11:00 AM - 6:00PM Monday - Saturday) 517-865-6066 (Customer
Support BBS) 1:239/900.0 (Fidonet)

===
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 2516
  To: MODERATOR                                Date: 07/26/93  4:33p
Subj: BUBBA!!!!                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do we have to listen about this CRAP! for the next year or so?
I for one am getting sick of it.
These messages are ALL of topic and do not belong in this echo.
Please put an end to it!
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From: HORHAY                                 Number: 2517
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93 12:53p
Subj: gif cd's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for some Cd's with adult gif images new or used.Please write
back if you have any info.

                          thanx


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From: MIKE SHEPARD                           Number: 2518
  To: JACKIE ROGERS                            Date: 07/27/93 10:56p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JR> Mitsumi has a problem reading many of the discs out 
 JR> there on the market. HOWEVER, industry sources have 
 JR> indicated that Mitsumi has found a problem with their 
 JR> controller card, and have corrected it.


Hello Jackie,
 Have you a number for them so if they do have a fix we with these things can
try to get them fixed so we can keep those disc's you've just sold us??
  Mike


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From: JOHN CARROLL                           Number: 2519
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/26/93  6:42p
Subj: This Weeks CDROM Specials               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a Message From: Doug Carpenter  To: All  Dated: 07-19-93 at: 23:22
DC--> *** PCJ Computing WEEKLY SPECIALS *** MUST BE ORDERED BY
DC--> JULY 27 ***
DC--> *** Orders Only 800-547-7817 / Inquiries (24 Hours)
DC--> 615-339-0235 ***
DC-->
DC--> Wing Commander/Ultima 6 (Discontinued-get it while you
DC--> can)........23.95
DC--> American Business Phone Book..17.95 Software Vault #2 (ALL
DC--> '93!)...19.95
DC--> X11R5-GNU.....................19.95 ** Buy 4 Vivid Titles
DC--> at 44.95 each
DC--> Seedy ROM Movie Disc..........34.95 and receive your
DC--> choice of 1 Free:
DC--> DR. DOS v6.0 (floppy).........24.95 Moving Fantasies,
DC--> Visual Fantasies,
DC--> Hobbes OS/2...................14.95 Adult Reference
DC--> Library, Physical
DC--> Source Code...................19.95 Therapy, or Hot Pix
DC--> v4.0.

Finally, after reading for 10 minutes......something that has to do with the
selling of CD-ROMs!  THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!     ...John

and to stay on topic....can you suggest a good CD of Windows Shareware, set up
for RA bbs software? Something current?   Thanks!

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From: GLENN JONES                            Number: 2520
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93 10:25p
Subj: CD Rom Help                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Could somone help me?  What do I look for in a CD-ROM?  What I'm looking for
is a internal CD-ROM.  Speed, KBytes/Second, Speed????

I'm SO CONFUSED!!!

Thanks,
Glenn

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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 2521
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/27/93  3:49a
Subj: Cd-rom drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Panasonic 501B $300
-> Chinon 535-CDS $430

Ismail, what are the Access and kb/transfer times on these
two drives?, I may be interested, especially in the Chinon.

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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 2522
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/27/93  7:49a
Subj: Scsi cdrom drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> 1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure
-> with power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O,
-> and 90-
-> 240 VAC universal input.  $220.00 with caddy.
->
-> 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.

Michael....  Would you care to work up a trade for one of the following
drives???  I have several things to trade...  1x9 70ns SIMMS (4megs
total); I have a VERY nice 250 watt UPS that has a NEW battery, Also
have a 130MB Seagate hdd that works flawlessly, with NO errors.
Could also come up with a little cash....

        Todd

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From: KAREL VITAMVAS                         Number: 2523
  To: DONALD MACKAY                            Date: 07/26/93 11:46p
Subj: CD Caddies                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

q

DM> Can anyone please give me some prices on CD caddies. Most of the 
DM> pricesup here north of the 49th are really quite outrageous.

DM> thanks

CMSI in Toronto, Canada sells CD Caddies for $6.00 CAD.  Phone (416)889-1616. 
They take 24 Hour Quotesor Orders.
I hope that's somewhat helpful.
                                                          Karel
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From: DON DEMAERE                            Number: 2524
  To: ALL CD VENDORS                           Date: 07/27/93  7:25a
Subj: Fax                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I, like many others, like to do business via fax. I have called several of the
fax numbers listed by vendors in this echo and I have noticed the following: 
1) Many vendors use faxmodems. It allows them to send/receive faxes and operate
a BBS at the same time.

2) Some vendors use the faxmodems mentioned above, but configure them to
send/receive faxes at certain hours and operate the BBS the rest of the time.

3) I use a Panasonic KXF-110 G3 fax machine

There is only one problem with this.

FAXMODEMS DON'T WORK. AT LEAST NOT WHEN RECEIVING A FAX.
Actually, most work very well sending out a fax. But, that doesn't help me.

On several occasions I have tried sending a fax to a vendor, only to get a
series of unrecognizable handshaking tones. I then usually call voice, and am
told "Try again, once I reconfigure the faxmodem" or "Try again, but press your
SEND button before my faxmodem answers", or "I only receive faxes from 8am to
6pm", or "Oh, I don't accept faxes, I use the faxmodem to only send catalogs
out", or "It's for my suppliers' use only".

Come on, vendors. This is the 90's. I know margins are tight, but many fax
machines are cheaper than the CD drives you sell, and a dedicated line is a tax
writeoff.

In the short-term, vendors should state if they use faxmodems and/or they run a
BBS on the same line and/or do not receive faxes and/or only accept faxes
during certain hours. It will make my life easier.

Don

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 2525
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 07/27/93  4:13p
Subj: Fax                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DD> FAXMODEMS DON'T WORK. AT LEAST NOT WHEN RECEIVING A FAX.

ZyXEL's Do!

CJK

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2526
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/27/93 11:05p
Subj: Sell Me 2 CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TW>MS>We have two brand new ones:  Southern Beauties and Amateur Models, both
of
TW>MS>which **I believe** are all original scans.  $35 ea. or both for $69.

TW>You still have my address, right? Send them both to me, please. BTW, you
TW>DID get the disk I returned, right? Terry

Got ya down Terry.  BTW, it's both for $65, not $69.  My typo.

Yes, I did receive the other CD, and I'll apply the credit to this order.
Thanks again for the order!

BTW, When can I come down to gatorland and hold a boom mike or -anything-
on your next movie project?  8)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2527
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/27/93 11:05p
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TW>MS>1. THE COMPLETE BOOKSHOP - An entire bookshop on CD! Includes classics,
TW>Send me this one, too, ok?

Gotcha.

TW>MS>4. TECHNOTOOLS - A programmer's dream disc! Routines, utilities,
debuggers
TW>And this one...

Gotcha again.

TW>MS>5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,
TW>And this one...

And again.

They'll be strapped to the belly of a DC-3 tomorrow!

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2528
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/27/93 11:05p
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DR>I'm proud of her.  As more of the silent majority become vocal about their
DR>political feelings, Clinton's going to feel like a little man in a big
house,
DR>real soon now.  At this rate, I'll be able to publish a CD-ROM full of
DR>Clinton's mistakes by the end of summer.  He's such a joke, I'll have to
mark
DR>it as a comedy, though.  ;-)

Come on Dave, quit riding the fence.  Take a position!!   8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2529
  To: MIKE FURST                               Date: 07/27/93 11:05p
Subj: Buy 3 Get A Powerpak Fre                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MF>MS>               BUY THIS:                             GET THIS FREE:
MF>  >  *-----------------------------------*      
*--------------------------*
MF>  >  |   ADULT 3-PAK SPECIAL:            |       |                         
|
MF>  >  |                                   |       |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0    
|
MF>  >  | 1.  ALL BEAUTIES (gif, fli, gl)   |       |     REVISED EDITION     
|
MF>  >  | 2.  HOT PIX 5                     |       |                         
|
MF>  >  | 3.  AMATEUR MODELS (gif, tiff)    |       |     650+MB OF GREAT     
|
MF>  >  |                         *-----*   |       |        SHAREWARE!       
|
MF>  >  *-------------------------| $89 |---*      
*--------------------------*
MF>  >                            *-----*

MF>  I was just browsing the CD-ROM echo and noticed your getting it from
MF>all sides!!! So what do I say? Damn the Torpedoes! Use the
MF>Photon's..they do more damage!!

He He.  Let's just say I'm in my element when there is controversy in the
"air".  8)  Next time I will try the Photons, but NOT at close range.  8)

MF> Anyway, I was wondering if you plan to offer something like above with
MF>one of the CD's being Digital Dreams instead ? I'd also appreciate a
MF>catalog if you have any and I could get copies out in the Las Vegas area
MF>(friends....you know the type.....<g>).

For you Mike, I'll substitute Digital Dreams for any of the three, at
the same price.  Just say the word and they're yours!  Catalog's on
the way.

Later,

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2530
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93 11:05p
Subj: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS!!!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                       +-------------------------+
  CHECK                |   SPECIAL BONUS OFFER   |     GET A FULL 650MB
                       +-------------------------+     OF RECENT SHAREWARE
     THIS              |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0    |     FOR
                       |     REVISED EDITION     |          ONLY
        OUT !!         |    SHAREWARE CD ONLY    |
                       |  $4.00  W/ PURCHASE OF  |         4   BUCKS!
           ----------> |    ANY PACKAGE DEAL!    |         ----------
                       +-------------------------+

-------------[ CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS ]------------------------------------

1. Night Owl 7.0     2. Storm 1     3. Southern Beauties     4. Hot Pix 3
   Night Owl 8.0        Storm 2        All Beauties             Hot Pix 4
   Night Owl 9.0        Storm 3        Amateur Models           Hot Pix 5
   -------------        -------        --------------           ---------
   $69                  $69            $95                      $85


       5. Night Owl 8.0     6. Night Owl 9     7. All Beauties
          Night Owl 9.0        Pier 2             Southern Beauties
          -------------        ------             -----------------
          $55                  $59                $65


8. Up All Night            9. Empire Clipart             10. Pier 2
   Super CD 2                 Clipart Heaven                 SW Vault 2
   So Much Shareware 3        Encyclopedia of Clipart        SW Studio 2
   -------------------        -----------------------        -----------
   $63                        $59                            $65


11. CD Winbox      12. House of Games     13. Busty Babes     14. Storm 2
    Windows 93         Game Arena             Ecstasy             Storm 3
    ----------         ----------             -------             -------
    $44                $35                    $55                 $49


15. Fantazia Fonts         16. Porkware 1       17. Compton's Interactive
    Fontmaster 2               Porkware 2           U.S. Atlas MPC
    Too Many Typefonts         All Beauties         Learning Adventure
    ------------------         ------------         ------------------
    $49                        $89                  $129


PLUS, AN ADDED BONUS . . . . .

               WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2531
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93 11:05p
Subj: BUY 3 GET POWERPAK FREE!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          -------------* 3 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!! *--------------

               BUY THIS:                             GET THIS FREE:
  *-----------------------------------*       *--------------------------*
  |   ADULT 3-PAK SPECIAL:            |       |                          |
  |                                   |       |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0     |
  | 1.  ALL BEAUTIES (gif, fli, gl)   |       |     REVISED EDITION      |
  | 2.  HOT PIX 5                     |       |                          |
  | 3.  AMATEUR MODELS (gif, tiff)    |       |     650+MB OF GREAT      |
  |                         *-----*   |       |        SHAREWARE!        |
  *-------------------------| $89 |---*       *--------------------------*
                            *-----*

 Get the three newest and hottest adult CD's on the market for the super
 low price of only $89, and receive a PowerPak Gold 3.0 shareware CD
 absolutely free!  This offer is for a limited time only, so hurry!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2532
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 07/27/93  5:29p
Subj: CD-ROM TRADE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > IG> 1.Loom
 > IG> 2.The Secret of Monkey Island
 > 
 > Isreal-
 > 
 > Sorry, no adults disks I want to trade, but I'll offer $32.90 for 
 > the above.


Sorry, but I can't help you there. I just wanted to trade them.



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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2533
  To: DICK HUDDLESTON                          Date: 07/27/93  7:23a
Subj: Your order                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dick, I need your phone number........
===
 * RM 1.0 00391 * Please see our complete list in the FOR SALE conferences.


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From: JACK HUDDLE                            Number: 2534
  To: JAMES PRICE                              Date: 07/28/93 11:21a
Subj: CD-ROM CACHING????                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

===================================================================
   ------------------------------------------------------------------

    JP>Is there a major <if any> improvement in caching a CD-rom with
435 ms JP>access time and 150kb transfer rate???

Yes there is!
JP>Is there a program that will Cache my CD-rom and my hard drive also??

Yes there is and it is called "The Norton Speedcache+ for dos and
windows. Just as an example I had been using Coreldrw 3.o and upgraded
to the 4.0 Version and liking Fonts I made the mistake of installing all
750 of Version 4.0 fonts. Needless to say Coreldrw was written to be
run inside of windows. Prior to installing the Norton speedcache+ on my
486/33 the elapsed time it took to open windows from the time I typed
win and hit the enter key till I got the windows program manager with
all of my various icons displayed on the crt was 3:35 what seemed like a
lifetime. well I installed nCache and the reduced the 3:35 to 1:05 SEC,
quite a remakable improvement approx a 66% increase in accesing speed.
then on this echo I read about "The Norton Speedcache+" and proceeded to
buy same. It self installs and litterly cashes everyting on your system,
CDROM, Hard Drive, Dos, Windows. when it was Installed instead of"
"NCACHE" the same accesstime dropped to :53 seconds so I would have to
say it indeed does cut the accesstime. I do not have a benchmark program
to time the info retrevial of info from the CDROM so I can only assume
that it has speeded it up also, By the way I am running two Stacked(2.0)
drives and it (Norton Speedcache+) says they are not cached but that is
where windows 3.1 is installed along with all other applications except
\Dos \Stacker who reside on the unstacked portion of the C:(Bootable
Disk drive) but to speed windows up that much I know It does..Hope this
rambling helps .......Jack

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2535
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/28/93  7:20a
Subj: Liquadation Discs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-PowerBox $12 (General Shareware)
CD-WinBox $12 (Windows Shareware)
 
If you are interested, you can order from:
 
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd. Tacoma, WA 98409
TEL 1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
FAX 1-206-473-1634 or 1-800-277-5179

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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 2536
  To: KEVIN OYAMA                              Date: 07/25/93 12:55a
Subj: CDWORLD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Kevin,
 Allways try to do my best, Have a good one and thanks for the kind
words.

 David McSpadden CD-WORLD


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2537
  To: BOB HAY                                  Date: 07/24/93  7:24a
Subj: E & M Disk                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BH>I am looking for someone who has the Electricity and
BH>Magnetism CD-ROM.  Pricing and ordering information

I can't help you, but as an astrophysics major I'm interested in what this
might be.  What is it?

 * SLMR 2.1 * 

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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 2538
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93 12:27p
Subj: Jem Disk Trade-In Special               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Did you ever purchase a CD-Rom disc only to find it didn't meet your needs 
at all?  You know the one, all it does is sit on the shelf behind old 
Computer books and empty Coke cans collecting dust!

Well here's your chance to TRADE it in and get a shiny new copy of Jem Disc 
instead at very little cost to you.  Jem Disc was a hot seller last year 
and it's file collection stands the test of time (especially if your a 
sysop).  There's over 500MB of great files in 59 categories.  The disc 
contains FILES.BBS support and there is a plug & play ROMbrain database 
available.

For a limited time if you send us an unwanted computer CD-Rom disc and just 
$14.95 we'll ship you a copy of Jem Disc!  Shipping & Handling is free.

FREQ the magic name JEMTRADE from 1:203/49 or call 916-921-9949 and download 
the files from my logon matrix (enter JEM at the prompt).

(If you are interested in ordering Jem Disc but have nothing to trade FREQ 
the file JEMDISC instead - the price is $19.95 plus S&H).


Thanks!

Michael Crosson
Jewel Distributing



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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 2539
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93 12:37p
Subj: Jem Disc Descriptions                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Just a quick note to Jem Disc customers -

The latest Jem Disc FILES.BBS descriptions are available as JEMFILES.ZIP. 
As time permits I improve and enhance them so it's worth your while to FREQ 
them every so often.

Many of you will be happy to know that I recently finished describing ALL 
700+ .GIF files in great detail.

FREQ JEMFILES.ZIP from 1:203/49 at v.32bis speeds (about 250k) or call 
916-921-9949 and download them from my logon matrix (enter JEM).

Thanks! - Michael Crosson

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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2540
  To: PHILIP S ELROD                           Date: 07/25/93  2:06p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> Do you know of any cd rom drives(internal) for sale under $199

    Mitsumi's sell for about $190 new from any of the big mail order
places, Midwest, DC, Computability.  Look 'em up in the Computer Shopper.

Eric


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From: JIM HILGEFORD                          Number: 2541
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93  5:02p
Subj: Re: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (24 Jul 93) Bob Jackson wrote to Doug Carpenter...

 BJ>  MS>             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<
 BJ> 
 BJ>  DC> Hogwash.
 BJ> 
 BJ> 
 BJ> Doug:
 BJ> 
 BJ> P-L-E-A-S-E don't start another one of those silly debates over who
 BJ> has
 BJ> the "very lowest" prices. Just run your ads and be kind to your
 BJ> customers. (Pretty Please???)
 BJ> 
BJ>  * Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 | 
 BJ> (1:106/30.0)
 BJ> 209/209
 BJ> 10 12 19
        I am interested in Purchasing CD-Rom for Education. 
        Do you have anything Like Barney Bear, Arthur Goes to School
        Or Grandma and Me?
        I Would appreciate any info you can send my way.


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From: JIM HILGEFORD                          Number: 2542
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93  5:08p
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!      1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (24 Jul 93) Mike Shannon wrote to All...

 MS>              *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
 MS>                                 pg. 1 of 2
 MS> 
 MS>    For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of
 MS> popular
 MS>                    Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!
 MS> 
 MS> TITLES INCLUDE:
 MS> 
        I am interested in Educational CD-Rom's.
        Example Barney Bear, Arthur Goes to School, Grandma & Me.
        Do you have anything along these lines. Appreciate
        any help I can get.


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2543
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/25/93 12:34a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC> MS>             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

DC>Hogwash.

Hogwash?  Boy, there's a term I haven't heard in a while.  Like I said
Doug, you're certainly welcome to "call my bluff" any time you see fit.
If it IS "hogwash", then you should have no trouble proving it.  Go ahead
and advertise them for less than $10, and let's see what happens!  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2544
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 07/25/93 12:34a
Subj: Chestnut cd's...$10! 1/2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DK>DK>MS>  ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
DK>DK>  >  any Chestnut purchase!

DK>Ok Mike, $10 is coming at ya!!

Great!  Got 'em in stock Dave!

z u later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2545
  To: STEVE ELLIOTT                            Date: 07/25/93 12:34a
Subj: MS MPC Works                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SE>One quick question, do you ship COD?

Affirmative Steve.  Give me a call anytime.

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2546
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93 12:34a
Subj: 2 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>Howse 'bout sendin' me a pare of them on 'proval?  (;>  (i.e. same deal
BJ>as last time)

Let me stock up a little first.  Hard to keep these new ones in!  8)

.\\ike

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2547
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/25/93  6:48p
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi there I am interested in the:

HK->Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
HK->  Came bundled with SoundBlaster audio card. CD ROM in jewel
HK->case &
HK->docs,
HK->  but no pkg. Still in sealed plastic wrapper. CD ROM drive
HK->reqd.  $28

I would be happy to purchase it from you,  please tell me your address and
where to send the $28 and do I have to pay for postage and I'll enclose the
money order ro whatever.

                                Darren Sellner

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From: BOB CENTERBAR                          Number: 2548
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  3:47p
Subj: CD Library                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I've got a CD Game Library that came bundled with my system for sale. 
 
I'm asking $50.00 for the library which includes: 
 
Chessmaster 3000 
Monkey Island 
Stellar 7 
Loom 
 
Also have the following CD's for sale: 
 
Time Table of History (Science & Innovation)  $20.00 
 
US & World Atlas  $25.00 
 
Will consider reasonable offers. Trades only if local. 
 
Thanks.....Bob 
 

... OFFLINE 1.50  "Live from Central Texas...." 
* LAKOTA v1.0

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2549
  To: BRAD RILEY                               Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: Re: RED HOT CD'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I must say, Boris, that you are good to deal with and have
>>    fair prices. I bought my rom and a disk from you and had a
>>    little trouble setting it up but you helped me out over the
>>    phone.  Have a great day from KC Mo

Always nice to hear from one of our many happy customers !!

I think you'll enjoy our NEW CATALOGUE as well. You'll be getting it
in the mail very soon as well as our customer appreciation catalogue
also. A LOT OF SUPER LOW PRICED cd's in this one, so have your
Visa/MasterCard ready.....grin !!

Chat with you soon......

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2550
  To: JAMES HOGUE                              Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: Re: ORDER REC'D                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Brian, just a note of warning about ProPhone. I've been using
>>    it for about 6 months and have found the search engine to be
>>    VERY buggy. Some towns in the database will not be found by
>>    name but can be found by zip code. There are also GAPING holes
>>    in the data for example it finds only two pawn shops in
>>    Phoenix. It is quite week data wise in California and Florida.

>>    It is the best thing of its kind out there as long as you are
>>    aware of its short comings.

>>    Just wish someone would produce a CD that does what ProPhone is
>>    advertised to do.

James, there is and it's called " Phone Disk USA " !! Much better and
offers a more up to date database as well.

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be glad to
assist you further.

BTW: Yes..both versions are in stock.

Boris Osadciw

... What Bug! I left behind the roaches in New York!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2551
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: WHILE THEY LAST                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Officers Bookcase       Canadian Shareware
Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
Chicano Datebase          PC-SIG Games            LaserTax On CD
Phoenix # 3               Jokes&Pranks            Learning Adventure
Business Assistant        World Travler           Sound Sensation
DeathStar Arcade          Colossal CookBook       ClipArt Goliath
Technotools               Our Solar System        Windoware

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

***********************************************************************



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress....... Not Just Another Off-Line Mail System <tm>!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2552
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: RED HOT SUMMER                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX   PRICE - $15.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
   COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - -  24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO

Boris Osadciw

... Protected Mode Xpress! It's hot!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2553
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2554
  To: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/52                Date: 07/25/93  6:59p
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

S9> actually, i would like another one.  but i wonder if my toshiba 3401
S9> could be put into the external case you sell your 3201s in? i have
S9> to put more hardrive in my "other" computer and that means no place
S9> insdie for the cd. it needs to go external, but i'm not keen on on
S9> the price of the "box" by itself.  if i got an external from you,
S9> could i take the 3201 out and put in my 3401?

Yes, you could.  Rod Jensen has made the arrangements.

S9> btw - it was a treat reading the want ads from your town - one
S9> alwyas hears that the cost of living it high in calif and low in the
S9> south - well, your town and mine seem to be pretty comparable on
S9> supermarket ads and rent.

My area has a higher cost of living than some of the other areas of the
south.  Probably because of the higher concentration of engineers around
the Hewlett Packard, Morton-Thiokol, Marshall Space Flight Center,
Lockheed, Toshiba, Pioneer, Chrysler, Teledyne-Brown, Intergraph, and the
list goes on.


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2555
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 07/26/93  1:11a
Subj: CDRoms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Some CDRoms for sale:

Source -- Gobs of C code                 $20.00   (MAR 92)
C User's Group  -- More Gobs of C code   $20.00   (OCT 92)
GIFs Galore -- 630 Megs of GIFs          $20.00   (1st ED)
CICA Windows -- 540 Megs of Windows      $15.00   (NOV 92)
Simtel -- over 600 Megs of DOS           $15.00   (DEC 92)
CDRom News Vol.1 Iss.2 -- NEXT/LINUX     $15.00
CDRom News Vol.1 Iss.3 -- NEXT/LINUX     $15.00
Hobbes OS/2 -- tons o' OS/2              $15.00   (NOV 92)
Postage and Insurance is $5.00 per order.
I will ship COD.  Add $5.00 per order for COD.
For More Info contact:

Eric Bravick
14014 Halstead Ct. Apt #408
Tampa, FL. 33613

(813) 979-1323 (Voice)
(813) 977-5212 (BBS)
Netmail 1:377/53.0


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2556
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  6:25a
Subj: SCSI CDROM                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $220.00 with caddy.

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.

Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin SCSI,
  300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,
  64k buffer.  

205-837-5053 




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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 2557
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/25/93  3:45p
Subj: CD-ROM TRADE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

IG> 1.Loom
IG> 2.The Secret of Monkey Island

Isreal-

Sorry, no adults disks I want to trade, but I'll offer $32.90 for the above.
Reply here or Netmail. -Thank

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From: TONY MACE                              Number: 2558
  To: EDWARD CROUSER                           Date: 07/25/93  8:22a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE WANTED                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Edward!

Friday July 23 1993 12:56, Edward Crouser wrote to Tony Mace:

 EC>         How much? I have one I might be willing to sell.

Sorry, already found a SCSI Toshiba one for my PAS16....

Tony

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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 2559
  To: DISK VENDORS                             Date: 07/20/93  8:53p
Subj: catalog request                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Please send a catalog to:


... Steve Gerweck, 530 Concetta Drive, Monroe, MI 48161-3542
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: JAMES PRICE                            Number: 2560
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  8:57p
Subj: CD-ROM CACHING????                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Is there a major <if any> improvement in caching a CD-rom with 435 ms
access time and 150kb transfer rate???

Is there a program that will Cache my CD-rom and my hard drive also??

Saw a public domain program, but it wouldn't work.  I think it said 
something about the trial period expired.
 
If you use a Cache on your drive, please send me a note on how you
like it... 
 

 
Thanks in advance.




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From: JAMES PRICE                            Number: 2561
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  8:57p
Subj: ENCYLCLOPEDIA                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in purchasing a Multi-Media Encyclopedia, I would 
prefer Windows MPC.
 
I noticed that Compton's has "Interactive", "MM" and "MPC" versions.
What are the differences feature wise between each???

I know MM is DOS and MPC is Windows.  Is Interactive Windows also??
Any added features in one version over the others?

Also noticed the Grolier's has multiple versions.
 
Which do you think is better?  And why?




Thanks in advance for your help.  Trying to decide which one to buy.





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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2562
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 10:55a
Subj: Re: DICT & LANG                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Bob Jackson <07-01-93 22:08> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS> It's going out to you today, along with the $6 shareware CD, and Oink
MS> 2 (for review).

What's Oink 2?  We haven't seen that one yet.  Or has my brother been hiding 
the new smut stuff from me?  <grin>

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2563
  To: RICK MEENAN                              Date: 07/25/93 11:02a
Subj: Re: Looking For a cd-rom                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <07-12-93 15:25> Rick Meenan wrote:

RM> I've been looking for a CD-ROM containing GIF photos of porno stars.
RM> I'm pretty new at this so don't know what's out there that may have
RM> the material I'm looking for.  Therefore, anyone selling a CD-ROM(s) they
RM> think might be of help drop me a line.  I'd be interested in getting
RM> catalogs from anyone thinking they have what I'm looking for.  Let me
RM> know what's out there guys!

There are several adult titles available on the market.  Most of them 
duplicate each other to a large degree.  I personally recommend finding a 
reputable publisher, and sticking with them.  Lee Noga's discs are top-notch 
and she's a regular participant here in the echos.  Look for Ecstasy Hot Pics 
or Busty Babes at a dealer near you.  Of course, we stock both of them, and 
you can give us a call at (800) 678-2374 or (509) 754-0724 for more 
information.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2564
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/25/93 11:06a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Jeff Jenkins <07-11-93 21:58> J.p. Ladner wrote:

JL> I'm interested in this drive but I'm leary of a 150ms drive and
JL> software for only $200 ???

The Mitsumi is a low-cost drive, and can be found brand-new for as low as $175 
if you shop around.  The going rate appears to be about $190.  I personally 
don't recommend the drive, as whenever there's a disc returned to me as 
defective, it works fine in our office.  I call the customer to inquire about 
the type of drive they're using, and they ALWAYS say, "Mitsumi."  Seems the 
Mitsumi has a problem reading many of the discs out there on the market. 
HOWEVER, industry sources have indicated that Mitsumi has found a problem with 
their controller card, and have corrected it.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
(800) 678-2374 / (509) 754-0724 (Voice)
(509) 754-0109 (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2565
  To: JOE STEVENS                              Date: 07/25/93 11:14a
Subj: Re: CD ROM...                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <07-13-93 17:07> Joe Stevens wrote:

JS> I am interested in Purchasing a CD ROM drive.  I have looked at
JS> several models... the one whick is the least expensive and still
JS> offers reasonable features is a mitsumi brand.  Does anyone out there
JS> have one and do you know if it is any good?  Also... I have been told
JS> it only has an 8 bit interface card... not a 16 bit.  What is the
JS> advantage to a 16 bit interface?

If you decide to go with the Mitsumi, make sure you get one of the "newer" 
ones with 350ms access time, and a 16-bit controller.  The 16-bit controller 
allows you more configuration options, which come in handy on a "busy" system.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2566
  To: JESSE SCHMELZER                          Date: 07/25/93 11:18a
Subj: Re: NIght Owl 9.0                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <07-12-93 04:32> Jesse Schmelzer wrote:

JS> Can anyone beat the 29.00 for night owl 9.0?? if so give me the # to
JS> order.

I may know someone who can fix you up:

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
(800) 678-2374 / (509) 754-0724 (Voice)
(509) 754-0109 (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2567
  To: KEITH SHEEHAN                            Date: 07/25/93 11:51a
Subj: Re: MS BOOKSHELF '93 MPC                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <07-10-93 21:30> Keith Sheehan wrote:

KS> Does any CD Distributer that advertises thier products on this echo
KS> have the 1993 edition of the Microsoft Bookshelf (MPC Version) for
KS> less than $129 that I've seen it for in such places as Elek-Tek &
KS> Comp USA. I was intereted in purchasing this disk but I don't want to
KS> spend on $129 on an electronic version of some books I already have!
KS> I can justify looking up things in the books for that price.

Give us a call, and I'm sure we can save you some serious money on that title.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
(800) 678-2374 / (509) 754-0724 (Voice)
(509) 754-0109 (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2568
  To: KEITH RITCHIE                            Date: 07/25/93  3:20p
Subj: Re: Winbox CD Problem                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <07-21-93 21:46> Keith Ritchie wrote:

KR>  I just got the Winbox Cd from Starvector and I am having a bear of a
KR> time getting it to work. It keeps lookingg for a Project1 file that
KR> is nowhere to be found. I checked the power.cfg file and it has the
KR> correct info. Help... it seems like a good CD from the Dir listing
KR> but it is worthless if you can't access it.

Call your dealer and ask for the "fix."  There is a slight problem with the 
interface on some of the discs out there.  The fix is available from our BBS, 
too.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
(800) 678-2374 / (509) 754-0724 (Voice)
(509) 754-0109 (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2569
  To: PHILIP POLSTRA                           Date: 07/25/93  3:23p
Subj: Re: Windows                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Dave Reed <07-21-93 06:46> Philip Polstra wrote:

PP>  DR> Get both discs for only $34!  Please mention
PP>  DR> that you saw the ad in FidoNet, because these discs are regularly 
PP>  DR> sold for $34 each.
PP>
PP> Gee, I paid $39 not $34 when I bought them from ya just a week or too
PP> ago.

I set the prices, based on what I pay for the discs.  When I'm able to secure 
better pricing, I pass that along to the customer.  You just happened to 
purchase from the end of our previous inventory.  David charges what I tell 
him to charge.  :-)

Next time you order, mention this, and I'm pretty sure we can give you a 
discount on your next purchase to make up for the difference.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2570
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/25/93  3:26p
Subj: Re: NighOwl 9                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <07-19-93 17:03> Manny Wise wrote:

MW> I was ready to buy it for 37.00...but them I hear someone said:it can
MW> be bough for 25.00 a piece..? Any true on that ???????????

Yes, sir.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
(800) 678-2374 / (509) 754-0724 (Voice)
(509) 754-0109 (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2571
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/25/93  3:30p
Subj: Re: cd's shipping to cana               Refer: NONE
Read: 07/29/93  7:29a                       Private: No 

In a message to Kirk Rawnsley <07-23-93 06:28> Tim Helton wrote:

TH> Exporting adult material to Canada can be a hassle.... There must be
TH> 500 people working at the border censoring the material that enters
TH> the country.

I think it's more like 500 people at EACH POINT of entry into Canada!  :-)

Jackie

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2572
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  7:56p
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*********************************************************************
************************  CD-ROM International  *********************
************************      Adult Titles      *********************
*********************************************************************

101 Positions, Part 1        $45     My First Time (Things Change)$50
101 Positions, Part 2        $45     My Private Collection, Vol 1 $33
Adult Palate                 $38     My Private Collection, Vol 2 $33
Adult Reference Library      $30     Night Watch Interactive      $49
After Dark Trilogy           $45     PC-PIX, Vol 1                $33
All Beauties                 $28     PC-PIX, Vol 2                $33
Amateur Models               $37     PC-PIX, Vol 3                $33
Animation Fantasies v1.0     $33     Physical Therapy             $23
Asian Ladies                 $33     Porkware, Vol 1              $33
Best of Vivid Clips          $45     Porkware, Vol 2              $33
Busty Babes                  $29     Private Pictures             $33
Busty Babes v3               $35     Rimfire XXX Mini-Movies      $44
Club Expose                  $46     Seedy Movies Disc            $42
Digital Dancing              $49     Seedy Rom v1                 $27
Digital Dreams               $32     Seedy Rom v2                 $27
Dirty Talk                   $45     Seedy Rom v3                 $27
Doors of Passion             $45     Seedy Rom v4                 $27
Ecstacy Hot Pics             $38     Seedy Rom v5                 $27
Erotic Encounters            $33     Seedy Rom v6                 $27
GBL (Gay, Bi and Lesbian)    $33     Seedy Rom v7 (Seventh Heaven)$27
Giffy Gold                   $33     Seymore Butts                $49
Girls of Vivid               $40     Smutware                     $32
Girls of Vivid, Vol 2        $40     So Much StareWARE            $33
Hidden Obsessions            $49     Southern Beauties            $33
Hot Pix, Vol 2               $32     Storm 1                      $27
Hot Pix, Vol 3               $32     Storm 2                      $32
Hot Pix, Vol 4               $32     Storm 3                      $32
Hot Pix, Vol 5               $32     Swimwear '93                 $30
House of Dreams              $49     Visual Fantasies             $28
House of Sleeping Beauties   $44     Volcano                      $32
Kama Sutra                   $69     Wicked                       $58
Lovely Ladies                $33     Women of Venus               $34
Manpower                     $33     X-Treme                      $32
Moving Fantasies             $27     XXX Extreme                  $33

*********************************************************************
*****************  Credit Card and COD Orders Welcome  **************
*********************************************************************

       CD-ROM International             (800) 678-2374  (Orders)
       108 4th Ave SW                   (509) 754-0724  (Voice)
       PO Box 723                       (509) 754-0109  (BBS/Fax)
       Ephrata WA 98823-0723            1:344/79 (FidoNet)

     Our new catalog is available for freq or download from the BBS
*********************************************************************


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2573
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/25/93  7:34a
Subj: REVIEW OF "DIGITAL DREAMS               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Yep, Lee's sent me a copy of BB3. Haven't had the cjance to go through it 
thoroughly yet, but "Showoff" looks very interesting. You can expect a 
thorough DD-like review of it shortly. (And thanks for the kind words!)

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From: KEITH SATURN                           Number: 2574
  To: CHRISTIAN SMITH                          Date: 07/25/93  6:21p
Subj: MAP CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Christian Smith to All <=-

 CS> I heard there is a CD that has every street in the US on it. IF
 CS> anyone knows what it is can you tell me the cost of it. 

Are you looking for a map of every street or a CrissCross Directory type of
thing?  If you're looking for the directory type of thing, so am I.  I think
one of the national phone books on CD might do the trick!.

                        Keith Saturn.

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From: KEITH SATURN                           Number: 2575
  To: ANDREW HUIGE                             Date: 07/25/93  6:21p
Subj: looking for a diask                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Andrew Huige to All <=-

 AH> *All, 
 AH> I heard of a disk with well over 450 files, I am looking for a
 AH> disk to  start a bbs with, so if you have any suggestions where I can

Why settle for 450 files? I used the Simtel20 CD on my BBS and that had over
7500 files!  Simtel@0 CDs  can be ordered at 1-800-786-9907.  I don't work 
for them, I'm just satisfied with what they had to offer!  You can also try 
some of the vendor's in this echo.

                        Keith Saturn.


... "You keep saying that, I don't think it means what you think it means"
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2576
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  7:16p
Subj: Review of Busty Babes #3                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

First, many thanks to "Lady Lee" (Noga) of Florida Lion's Den, Inc.
for sending me a copy of "Busty Babes Volume #1 Release 3.0" (BB3) for
review.

Secondly, this review will follow the format, style, and content 
paradigms that were used in my reviews of "Digital Dreams" (Ero Tek) and 
"Pork Ware I" inasmuch as there will be three parts: Statistics, 
Operations, and Visual.  I will use the same criteria as I outlined in my 
previous descriptions of those parts.

Thirdly, having learned that FidoNet can tolerate reasonably long posts, 
I'll use only three messages for this review, one for each of the parts 
named above.

Finally, remember, WHAT FOLLOWS IS ONE PERSON'S OPINION.  While I try 
very hard to be as objective as possible in writing these reviews, 
(objectivity is part of what I do to satisfy Maslow), individual
preferences, both mine and yours, will always introduce some level of 
subjectivity, particularly in the operations and visual parts.  All set?  
Here we go.....

Statistics
==========

This section focuses on numerical data relative to the physical contents
of the CD.

Let me begin by stating that measuring the exact number of files on a CD
isn't as simple as it may sound, nor all that important.  Most CDs these 
days have thousands of files on them, particularly image CDs and 
shareware CDs.  While one might assume that a simple DIR would suffice, 
it won't.  First, DIR will count the . and .. subdirectory "files" (note: 
these have been taken into account in the figures below).  Secondly, even 
when using DIR with a "qualifier" like *.GIF, a directory may show files 
that aren't actually there, or are corrupted in some way that makes them 
useless and therefore might as well not be there.  Finally, what my 
CD-ROM drive can read, yours may not, and vice-versa.  Accordingly, when
I give various counts and sizes and you subsequently find that your stats
don't EXACTLY agree with mine, don't take it too hard.

BB3 disclosed a count of 2663 GIF files (not counting the catalog
files - more on those later) totaling 499 Mb.  That yields an
average byte size of 187 Kb per GIF which is consistent with the
observation that most of the GIFs are either 800x600 or 640x480 in
resolution and most occupy relatively large portions of the screen when 
displayed normally.  All told, the CD disclosed 3278 files occupying 528 
Mb.  The difference of 615 files is accounted for by the 200 catalog GIF 
files and by the utilities and other programs included on the CD.

Comparing BB3 GIF files names against my those in my data base taken from 
BB1 (Rel. 1 not Rel. 2), I found 1731 duplicate names.  Had I been able 
to run the comparison against BB2, doubtless a larger number would have 
been forthcoming.  Run against the whole data base, an additional 398 
duplicate names were found.  These numbers indicate that BB3 is indeed 
just as her producer advertised: essentially a re-make of BB2 to correct 
past "sins", at least as far as the GIF files are concerned.

Within BB3 itself, I found 10 GIF files that were duplicated.  That is, 
there are 10 pairs of files where each member of a pair contains exactly 
the same image.  One of the pairs even shares the same name: 
"L_HONEY5.GIF" which appears in two different directories.  The other 
nine pairs have different names and appear in the same or different 
directories as their "image mates".

Operations to follow...


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2577
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  7:17p
Subj: Review of Busty Babes #3                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Visual
======

This part of the review focuses on the visual merits of the CD's imagery 
as judged by this reviewer.  Accordingly, it is more subjective than 
either of the two preceding parts. and should be taken as such.

Like its forebearers, BB3 is a full-blown X-rated CD.  Some of its images 
are as raw as raw legally gets.  It's worth noting that a large number of 
the scans are R-rated in that, outside of exhibitionism, no sexual 
activity is depicted at all.  This is primarily true of the "BUSTYn" 
directories (0 <= n <= 6).

Comparing BB3 GIF files names against my those in my data base taken from 
BB1 (Rel. 1 not Rel. 2), I found 1731 duplicate names.  Had I been able 
to run the comparison against BB2, doubtless a larger number would have 
been forthcoming.  Run against the whole data base, an additional 398 
duplicate names were found.  These numbers indicate that BB3 is indeed 
just as her producer advertised: essentially a re-make of BB2 to correct 
past "sins", at least as far as credits for the GIF files are concerned.

Within BB3 itself, I found 10 GIF files that were duplicated.  That is, 
there are 10 pairs of files where each member of a pair contains exactly 
the same image.  One of the pairs even shares the same name: 
"L_HONEY5.GIF" which appears in two different directories.  The other 
nine pairs have different names and appear in the same or different 
directories as their "image mates".  There may be other pairs, but I 
didn't detect them with my computer-aided processes.

Like it predecessors, BB3's images are by and large quite good.  
Certainly they are on a par with contemporary releases.  Most images are 
either 640x480 or 800x600 in resolution.  The scans are generally sharp 
and professional looking in appearance.  If you already have one or two 
of the more popular adult image CDs, (e.g. Ecstasy, FAO, Seedy ROM, etc.) 
you'll feel right at home with the quality of BB3's pictures.  

As previously mentioned, BB3's directory structure is an improvement over 
BB1 and BB2, IMHO.  In addition, there are some scans that aren't in 
either of the predecessor volumes - not enough to warrant purchase solely 
based on that fact, but nice lagniappe if you're going to buy the disk 
anyway.  Finally, there's a truly new directory in that all of its images 
(some 115 of them) are definitely not in either BB1 or BB2.  That is the 
"MICHELLA" directory and it's contents are exclusively scans of a lady by 
that name.  These scans are soft and generally dark.  They're pleasant 
enough; mostly "R to hard R" and frequently with an unnamed lady friend 
in tender-looking poses.  If I had to chose a single word, on the whole 
(no pun intended) I'd call them artistic.

In sum, if you're looking for an adult CD with a variety of subject 
matter, BB3 would be a good choice.  If you're a true collector, you'll 
probably want BB3 to complete the set; I'm sure FLD's not planning a Rel. 
4.0 - there'd be no point to it.  Release 1.0 is already a collector's 
item;  Release 2.0 doesn't surrender anything meaningful to Release 3.0 
in image content; Release 3.0's raison d'etre, outside of some mea culpa 
rapair work, is SO.  There's just no more mileage in this collection.

So, Lee, what'cha got up your sleeves for us next?  Whatever it is, make 
sure SO hangs in there!
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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 2578
  To: JACKIE ROGERS                            Date: 07/25/93 11:26p
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello There Jackie!

In a message to All <07/25/93> Jackie Rogers wrote:

JR> *********************************************************************
JR> ************************  CD-ROM International  *********************
JR> ************************      Adult Titles      *********************
JR> *********************************************************************


JR>      Our new catalog is available for freq or download from the BBS
JR> *********************************************************************

Nice prices...........

JR> ... If Clinton is the answer, it must have been a stupid question!

Stupid Mistake on your part tho...........

John

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From: TAMI THOMPSON                          Number: 2579
  To: PETER CLAUSEN                            Date: 07/25/93  9:04p
Subj: CDROM + Amiga 2000 + Zeus               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PC> The Zeus came with a startup-icon for removable 
 PC> media that one supposedly drops into the start-up 
 PC> drawer (I'm running AmigaDos 2.1), but this does 
 PC> not help me any.  Is this just for things like 
 PC> Syquests and the like?  Not CD's?
 PC> So I guess I need to get Xetec's driver to make things work?
Yes, you need the Xetec, or another such as AsimWare (my personal preference),
file system to get the CDROM to work w/the Amiga.  Either of these will also
let you emulate a CDTV, enabling you to run CDTV disks (please note, neither
gives you 100% compatibility to run all CDTV disks).  Good luck, and have fun! 
-Tami

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From: JOSEPH THOMAS                          Number: 2580
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/26/93  9:33a
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 HK> Thanks for the message on the encyclopedia. I've had one other person
 HK> contact me on it, and I left them a message back. If they decide not to
 HK> take the CD, I'll drop you a note again to see if you want it.

         I sure would like that. I am holding the 28.00 for this purpose
alone and I wouldn't buy Ice cream with that money, in this heat. Tnxx.

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2581
  To: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                        Date: 07/25/93  7:47a
Subj: Re: TRADE ADULT CD FOR AD               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 23 Jul 93  16:39:50, I heard Jerry Gerolymatos shout to Kevin Plummer:

JG> I'll give you money for the Volcano cd if you don't mind, cause I don't hav
JG> any other cd like that. Just tell me the price.

Well, I would have rathered traded for it, But...  The Disk is like brand New,
I think it was used maybe 6 or 7 times, I put it On-Line for my users, and 
they really didn't use it, Soooo, I want to get another disk.  So how about 
$28.00 and you pay shipping ???


                   ......|<evin

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From: EARL HARSHBARGER                       Number: 2582
  To: MICHAEL MULCAHY                          Date: 07/16/93  3:07p
Subj: Re: Encyclopedia CD's                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Reply to msg originally in CDROM For Sale (Fido)

 -=> Quoting Terry Blount to Michael Mulcahy <=-

 MM> I am looking for an Encyclopedia CD collection that my  children
 MM> can utilize as a good reference for school.  I have  heard  that
 
 TB> I carry the 1992 21 volume Grolier"Academic America Encyclopedia"
 TB> for $69.  This is the best encyclopedia I have seen.  It includes

 I can vouch for the Grolier Encyclopedia.  We received as part of a package
 that came with a computer we purchased for our school.  It is so easy to
 use.  The students love it.  It (the CD) is much cheaper than buying the
 hardcopy set and it easier to purchase a new edition every couple of years.
 You might be able to find a better price than the above, I think I saw it
 for as low as $49.  It is a great package for the price.

 Hope this helps.

 --Earl


... Two most common elements in the universe: Hydrogen & Stupidity.
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2583
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93 10:05a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Rel. 3                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <07-24-93 06:53> Bob Jackson wrote:


BJ>> Just a short note for now saying that BB3 has arrived safe and sound.

Great--Remember it is still Volumn 1 but release/version 3.0 of that volumn!
Don't want the user's to think it is Vol III--

Thanks !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2584
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/25/93 10:29a
Subj: SHOWOFF! Interface-The 90               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Bob Jackson <07-22-93 12:45> Vince Sorensen wrote:

VS>> I think the interface for Busty Babes Release 3.0 is
VS>> the best, period, and I've _made_ excellent interfaces for other
VS>> Of course, I'm biased because I distribute it (and Erotek's Digital
VS>> Dreams), but I use much less bandwidth for my propaganda <g>!

Ahh Vince--Your so sweet, but it has nothing to do with 'Bias'--SHOWOFF! was
developed by a team of PhD's that decided the user lacked a true imaging
toolbox--SHOWOFF is the technology that was destined to replace VPIC and CSHOW
etc--It has a better color pallette, and it allows you to manage your image
collection which is the plus here--The other packages just allow you to view
the image with clumbsy configurations--This package auto detects your video
needs and self installs, finds the dupes images on your drives, allows you to
build pages of images (1 to 1,024), magnifies any portion of the image many
times, and so on--The shareware version of this is on the Busty Babes in
addition to the scaled down version licensed to us as the interface--So you
have 2 goodies to play with on Busty ! Yes, the entire shareware version is on
the disc as well--

Can't wait until the windows version of this is ready ! You'll find it on our
future discs as well-

Thanks for the 'Kudo' !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: WILLIAM BYRD                           Number: 2585
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93  6:12p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Rel. 3                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bob,

  I hope you find this disk to be of as good of quality as I have so far.  I
especially like the ease of use that Showoff provides over its predecessor on
the original BB disk.  The quality of both the disk and material on it are in
my own personal opinon outstanding.  This disk shows us that pride in a job
well done is not yet dead in America.  Granted that some out there may not
approve of this type of material but that being beside the point this disk is
of the highest quality workmanship I've seen lately.

Wm.  
 
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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 2586
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  5:18p
Subj: NEW CD RELEASE - Southern               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          **********  Graphical Images of Florida, Inc. **********
             Announces The NEW RELEASE of   "Southern Beauties"
                A Fully Commercial - Fully Copyrighted Disc

675 Megs-OVER 65 Top Models-1000 GIFs-1024x768x256 From Original 35mm Slides 
Includes 300 Megs of the Best GIFs in 24 bit True Color. Installs Quickly & 
Easily - Menu Driven - User Friendly - Popup Help Menus - Mouse Support - 
Keyword Search - Sound Blaster Front Loader - Multiple Directory Slide Show

To Order Contact: Faye Sharp at Tradeshows Inc. 317-651-9848 or 317-651-1223  
 
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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2587
  To: CHAD NEWMAN                              Date: 07/25/93 10:22p
Subj: Trade for Adult CD                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CN>I would like to trade "Cream of the Crop" Shareware CD (valued at $39.00) fo
CN>an Adult CD.  I have a few other games I'm willing to through in for the tra

How about a copy of Pc-Pix Volume II?

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2588
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 10:28p
Subj: Sell Me 2 CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>We have two brand new ones:  Southern Beauties and Amateur Models, both of
MS>which **I believe** are all original scans.  $35 ea. or both for $69.

Mike,
You still have my address, right? Send them both to me, please. BTW, you
DID get the disk I returned, right? Terry

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2589
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 10:30p
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!      1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike,

MS>1. THE COMPLETE BOOKSHOP - An entire bookshop on CD! Includes classics,

Send me this one, too, ok?

MS>4. TECHNOTOOLS - A programmer's dream disc! Routines, utilities, debuggers,

And this one...

MS>5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,

And this one...

Thanks,
Terry

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2590
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 10:31p
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!      2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>8.  CLIPART GOLIATH - Over 10,000 image files in PCX and TIF formats, plus

Send me this one too, please...

MS>12. SHAREWARE OVERLOAD - Over 6100 programs (550mb compressed) for all

And this one.

Thanks,
Terry

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From: SHAWN MAY                              Number: 2591
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/28/93  2:43p
Subj: The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encycl  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    Anyone interested in "The software toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia, 
comes with a little manual, lookif for 40$ OBO..

    Shawn

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From: NEIL ALLEN                             Number: 2592
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 07/27/93  2:45p
Subj: Adult Cd-Roms                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Michellea Sorensen to All <=-

 MS> Starting July 24th, you can get an extra bonus: your
 MS> copy will be hand-signed by moi, since I'm one of the
 MS> Canadian models <g>!      (Yes, I go all the way!)

 MS> Get BUSTY BABES, release 3.0 for a special price of $50
 MS> that includes all taxes. PLUS there's no delay or worry
 MS> about an unscheduled stop at customs, because they're
 MS> shipped direct to you from within Canada!

        Hi Michellea,  do you appear in the previous released versions?
What other CD titles do you have available and where can I get a price
listing of these CD's?

ttys

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2593
  To: HAROLD WEISS                             Date: 07/29/93  7:55a
Subj: Mailing List                            Refer: 5938
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> To any Vendors: WE HAVE MONEY ! :)

By all means, give me a call !  We publish the Shareware Studio &
SoundWAV CDs... We distribute other titles as well.

Tim Helton
Data Express, Inc.
Voice : 404-621-9210
FAX   : 404-621-9122
FIDO  :    1:133/515
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2594
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/29/93  7:01a
Subj: HERE WE ARE                             Refer: 5952
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->  TH> OK, we're all proud... Please end this thread.
->
->  TH> tim
->  TH> moderator
->
-> Was just curious if you are going to implement the new rules that Bob
-> posted in the CDROM echo....

Dunno... I do know that I'll fight til the death to preserve my (and
your) right to free speech, provided that such free speech doesn't cause
anyone harm.  I WILL NOT (and never will) implement policy for the
purpose of force feeding morality.... That was your parent's job, not
mine.

Please, any discussion on this topic should be sent netmail (1:133/515)
and NOT posted in this echo.

tim
moderator/libertarian
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2595
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 07/29/93  7:13a
Subj: BUBBA!!!!                               Refer: 5961
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Do we have to listen about this CRAP! for the next year or so?
-> I for one am getting sick of it.
-> These messages are ALL of topic and do not belong in this echo.
-> Please put an end to it!

Yes Sir!

I'm doing my best, but when folks like you keep throwing the topics back
up for discussion, it makes my job tougher.

The best way to stop a kid from whining is to ignore um.  The same
principal applies to this echo...

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2596
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 07/29/93  7:57a
Subj: Fax                                     Refer: 5969
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Come on, vendors. This is the 90's. I know margins are tight, but man
-> machines are cheaper than the CD drives you sell, and a dedicated lin
-> writeoff.

Hey Don,

I've wondered the same thing... With stand alone FAX machines costing
only $300, it puzzles me how someone could justify NOT having one with
a dedicated line attached.

FAX me - I'm ready to deal!

tim
FAX : 404-621-9122
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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 2597
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 07/25/93  4:02p
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DP> There was a bug in the original version.  You can freq 
 DP> the "fix" file from us as 
 DP> "WBOXFIX.ZIP" at 1:161/205.  Sorry for the problems - 
 DP> the disk isn't exactly 
 DP> worthless w/o the front end, wouldn't you agree?  :> 

    I noticed that fix file on your board. Unfortunatly I had called looking
for alternative FILES.BBS files in a format for Maximus/Opus. On the inside
cover it says " Damar Enterprises provides their FILES.BBS listings in many
specific BBS formats. Please call our 24 hour/day BBS for a complete selection
of FREE downloads to support the CD Winbox". I called looking for them to no
avail....where can I get them?
    DCK


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From: DONALD MACKAY                          Number: 2598
  To: KAREL VITAMVAS                           Date: 07/28/93  2:51p
Subj: CD Caddies                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Why thank you very much Karen.

ttyl 

/usr/dan

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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 2599
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/28/93  1:23a
Subj: MITSUMI 350ms CDROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone know if the proprietary controller that comes with the
mitsumi 16 bit 350ms access drive will support a second drive?

I'd like to add a second drive but dont have a free card slot for
another controller <grin> or frankly the IRQ to space.

James

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From: ROBBIE WILKES                          Number: 2600
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/28/93  1:01p
Subj: Libel and the single  1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I've been quietly following this whole proceeding between Michael Benge
and Terry Woodward, and must say that I'm a little confused.  From my
end, this is what I've perceived to have happened:

1) Michael & Terry agreed to "trade" CD's, each "cross-shipping" their
   respective CD to the other.

2) Michael sent off his CD, as agreed. Terry, on the other hand, was tied
   up, albeit with good reason, and did not send out the CD as promised.

3) Michael then stated on the echo, pretty politely at the time, that he
   was having problems in completing the deal with Terry.  Whether he
   had jumped the gun at this time, or not, I don't know.  If he hadn't
   tried to discuss it with Terry, either voice, or in a personal
   message in the echo, then he should have.  Regardless, I remember that
   the initial message from him was actually pretty civil.

4) Terry responded to Michael's message fairly vehemently.  I do remember
   that he was the first one to start calling names, and that he stated
   that he had been too busy to send out his CD, and that he was no
   longer interested in completing the deal, because he didn't like the
   CD that Michael had sent.

5) At this point, things disintegrated.  Michael, showing his hot-
   headedness, which has already caused run-ins with others
   (myself included), continued to press the matter, provoking other
   users to get involved.

6) The moderator of the echo, obviously a friend of the "well-liked" and
   "much respected" Terry Woodward did something that I thought was a
   little strange by personally attacking Michael, and defending Terry,
   as did many others.

7) The matter has continued to develop to the point where it is now.
   Little pot shots at Michael from various users, provoking further
   responses from Michael to defend his point...  All while the main
   point is forgotten...

MAIN POINT

   Obviously Mr. Woodward has alot of friends on this echo, and
   undoubtedly there's a reason for that.  I'm sure he's a very nice
   fellow, and, like I said, the explanations that he gave for being
   tied up were perfectly understandable.  I've never dealt with him,
   but I would not hesitate at all to deal with him.  Believe me, I
   know how hectic things can be sometimes... and I don't always get
   my stuff out as soon as I should. To me, his reputation is untarnished.

   Mr. Benge, on the other hand, has obviously already enlightened a
   number of users to his personality.  As I said, I've personally dealt
   with Mike, and it is not something I will EVER do again.  He still
   owes my wife an apology for a tantrum he threw, during a FAVOR I was
   doing for HIM.   (I'm still waiting Mike, and I haven't forgot.)

   However, all that aside...  from where I stand, it was Terry that did
   not complete his end of the deal, no matter the reasons.  Mike upheld
   his end of the bargain, sending out his CD in good faith, and waited
   to receive Terry's.  Terry, on the other hand, did not send out the
   CD as expected, and instead returned Mike's CD to him after reviewing
   it, and determining that he didn't like it.  Not quite as agreed upon.

   So the questions remain...

   1) Did Michael Benge have a right to complain about the way the deal
      was handled?

      Not to the degree that he has, although, like I said, he started it
      fairly civily, and it has devolved to where it is now, largely
      due to the input of other users.

      Believe me, I've been involved in many, many deals on the echoes,
      and I have now been ripped off 6 times.  In each case I stated
      my point, very civily, and have been attacked by others, even
      though I was the victim.  One time in particular I was up against
      another well known user, and was castrated when I brought up our
      problems, by other users, and the moderator.  Of course, my
      "revenge" came in watching the same person rip off several other
      users, before he dropped out of sight.  Still had my money, but
      so many people had to eat their words.

  2) Does Michael have a right to expect the $2.90 that he spent on
     postage?

     Yes.  He dealt in good faith.  He had to spend the money to send
     out a CD for no reason.  So he is deserving.

3)  Is Michael Benge a "jerk", and should he make that call and apologize
    to my wife, and should he go ahead and forward the $2.90 to me for
    having to mail his stuff to him out of my pocket as well as the scans
    I did as a favor?

    You decide.

But never, ever forget who the victim is.

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From: ROBBIE WILKES                          Number: 2601
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/28/93  1:01p
Subj: Libel and the single  2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

(Continued from previous message)


... CP [IR] * Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.


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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 2602
  To: JAMES PRICE                              Date: 07/28/93 12:38a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM CACHING????                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

James,
I belive you're talking about a cache called Cache-all.  It supposedly is
able to cache any media.  If you want, I can dig up their BBS number so you
can DL the newest version.

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 2603
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 07/28/93  5:57p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You commented to Peter Dettelis recently:

LF>do have the Best of the Bureau. It suffers from weak search/retrieval,
LF>in that it allows only an entire article (as opposed to a user-selected
LF>portion) to be output to disk. I infer (perhaps incorrectly) that the
LF>full-size Bureau publications have the same problem. Do you know if that
LF>is the case?

While I don't have the full-size pubs you asked about, I've seen the same type
of engine used on the two disks that I do have from them: World Fact Book, and
U. S. History.  I agree that it is sometimes a bother to save to disk a long
file, and then have to edit it separately to collect a small fragment, perhaps
as a quotation that I might paste into another document.

There are a couple ways of making life a bit easier, I've found.  You can save
the article, F8 seems to be a popular way with them, and then edit it
afterwards with your favorite editor/word-cruncher routine.  Or, you could save
it as an article and use Vern Buerg's LIST.COM to find and collect the portion.
 You might also locate the file by using GREP on the list of files to locate
directly the filename, bypassing the engine, and then editing a copy of that
file; this involves expertise of working from the command line, which is often
a terrible experience for some folks.  I've not found a different method that
was acceptable, and will be curious to learn if you discover one.

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * Murphy is out there somewhere ... just waiting ...


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From: KAREL VITAMVAS                         Number: 2604
  To: CHRISTIAN SMITH                          Date: 07/27/93  5:19p
Subj: MAP CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS> I heard there is a CD that has every street in the US on it. IF 

I think there are several different titles available.  I have PRECISION MAPPING
U.S.A. VERSION 1993.   It contains 2 CDROMs For the maps and 1 CD ROM with the 
AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONE BOOK as a bonus.  It retails in Canada for $139.95 CAD.
                                            Karel
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From: KAREL VITAMVAS                         Number: 2605
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/27/93  5:26p
Subj: Small problem                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I also have PRECISION MAPPING and I'm also having the same problems that came
up here.

MS>even find New York or Chicago! All other functions work perfectly. Is this 

                                             Karel
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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 2606
  To: BOB HALL                                 Date: 07/28/93  6:09p
Subj: CDT = CD'S, TRAVEL                      Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93  7:38p                       Private: No 

I'll call you.  I do read the CD-ROM For Sale echo but don't respond much in
it.  I do read and respond in the CD-ROM echo area.  I'll be going to COMDEX
again this year.  Will I see you there?


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From: TED KIDD                               Number: 2607
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/28/93  2:12a
Subj: CDRoms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EB> Some CDRoms for sale:

EB> Source -- Gobs of C code                 $20.00   (MAR 92)

Is this disc BBS compatible?  If so, I might just order it...
:)
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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2608
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 07/28/93  6:42a
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > IG>I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have 
 > completed it. 
  >>Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it? 
 >
 > Sure, what would you like?  I carry most titles.  Give me a call. 
 >  
 >                                                         Jim... 

Sorry, but I have already traded it.


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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2609
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 07/28/93  6:44a
Subj: RE: THE 7TH GUEST                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >IG> I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed
 >IG> it. Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
 >IG> -TWITCH the Vorpal Bunny-
 > 
 > Israel, I have Asian Ladies available in trade for 7th Guest if 
 > interested.
 > As it is an adult CD, you'll need to state "over 21", as I don't 
 > wish to
 > "corrupt" (overjoy, more likely!) any young and impressionable 
 > minds.
 > Thanks in advance.
 > 
 > ,\\ark

Sorry, I have already traded it.


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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2610
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 07/28/93  2:27p
Subj: Re: The 7Th Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 IG> I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed
 IG> it. Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
 IG> -TWITCH the Vorpal Bunny-

MJ>Israel, I have Asian Ladies available in trade for 7th Guest if
MJ>interested.
MJ>As it is an adult CD, you'll need to state "over 21", as I don't wish to
MJ>"corrupt" (overjoy, more likely!) any young and impressionable minds.
MJ>Thanks in advance.

MJ>,\\ark



MJ>... Clinton will tax wealthy Americans. Congratulations! You're rich!

I might have been interested, but I don't do buisness with people who show the
distaste of forwarding their unsolicited political views.

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From: MARK STEIGER                           Number: 2611
  To: CHRIS MORGAN                             Date: 07/28/93  8:12p
Subj: interface card                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Chris!

24 Jul 93, Chris Morgan writes to Mark Steiger:

 CM> Well, I don't own one but the Sound Blaster 16 has one on it.

What are you talking about?  Could you please quote alittle from my original
message?

Thanks

Mark

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2612
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/28/93  8:20a
Subj: CD Sales                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Some of the shareware CD-Roms I recommend for BBSes are: 
 
So Much Shareware 3 - The tops for Spitfire! .................... $39 
Night Owl 9 - Large and recent collection ....................... $39 
Big Sky ROM - Has some older files, but great collection ........ $48 
Software Vault 2 - All 1993 Files. Easy to set up ............... $29 
CD Winbox - Very recent and NICE collection for Windows fans .... $29 
Digital Dreams by Ero Tek - Adult disk with Playboy style pics .. $32 
 
Call the Computer Works BBS and download Catalog.zip for a listing of 
all titles with prices and descriptions. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 2613
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/28/93  9:24p
Subj: WHOLESALING & RETAILING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  VS> CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA...306-789-4654 SAMPLE TITLES FROM OUR
  VS> CATALOG
  VS> -----------------------------------------------
  VS> AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK - FANTAZIA FONTS  - TEMPRA ACCESS ANIMALS
  VS> MULTIMEDIA          - SCI-FI/FANTASY  - CD WINBOX ARTHUR'S TEACHER
  VS> TROUBLE    - GAMES 1993      - SWIMWEAR '93 BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SCHOOL
  VS> - KINGS QUEST 5   - WINDOWS 1993 MIXED UP MOTHER GOOSE       - NIGHT
  VS> OWL 9     - RETURN TO THE MOON EDUCATION MASTER            - LEARNING
  VS> FRENCH - PUBLISHER'S DREAM DISK ENCYCLOPEDIA OF CLIP ART    - KIDS CAN
  VS> READ   - MAYO CLINIC
  
Pls add me to your Mailing List.

M. Mulcahy
9300 Hamilton Drive
Fairfax, VA 22031
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 2614
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/29/93 12:31p
Subj: busty babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Lee!
  I just recieved my copy of "BUSTY BABES" and I must say BRAVO!
I really like the interface that you have developed. It is setup very
well, and very easy to use as well!
  I looked at most of the gifs and seen my "originals" that I sent you
listed in the directories, I am glad that you were able to use them, and
will be sending you  about 500 more of some "LOCAL TAMPA BAY" girls that
have already agreed with me to let you have the scans for your next
release. Give me about 8 or 10 weeks to get them all orginized. I will
send the scans on a "quic-80" 250 meg tape. Will your tape drive read
Iomega standards? I have had compatibilty problems with Colorado ,
Trakker, and another that I can't recall, But we will give it our best
shot!
  Ok well I just wanted to say hello and thank you very much for the
copy of "BUSTY" she is a dream! It will certianly be a compliment to my
now already great bbs!
 Take care and keep up the good work! I must leave now before my
"Grammar and spelling are torn to shreads again"<G>.

Bubba
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2615
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 07/28/93 11:18a
Subj: Adult cd-roms                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>Hey Canadians!

MS>Starting July 24th, you can get an extra bonus: your
  >copy will be hand-signed by moi, since I'm one of the
  >Canadian models <g>!      (Yes, I go all the way!)

Michellea, I was wondering if you'd go "all the way" for some of American
admirers..........

I would like to know if the same "deal" can be had here in the lower 48.

Sign me: Dreaming in Danvers

;-)

Pat

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From: MATT SMITH                             Number: 2616
  To: WEE YUNG                                 Date: 07/29/93 10:16a
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You sent me a letter about a Creatice Labs 16. CD-rom with Sound Blaster 16 bit
and speakers and the 3 CD's for $459.00..Well, I am interested but is the sound
card XA Compatible and does it have a CD-ROM interface? If so to both of those
I'll give you $399.00 for it. Let me know..

             Matt Smith


P.S.--That offer is NOT final...


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2617
  To: CAM LIRONDELLE                           Date: 07/29/93  9:29a
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CL> S9>> michael, my drive arrived yesterday.  took about 15 mins to
CL> install
CL> S9>> and it works just fine.  thanks again. runs like a champ under
CL> os/2.
CL>
CL>  MK> I still have a couple left if you know anyone.
CL>
CL> I am interested!  How much?

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $220.00 with caddy.

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.

Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin SCSI,
  300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,
  64k buffer.  

205-837-5053 

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2618
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 07/29/93  9:30a
Subj: Re: Scsi cdrom drive                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TC> -> 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.
TC>
TC> Michael....  Would you care to work up a trade for one of the
TC> following
TC> drives???  I have several things to trade...  1x9 70ns SIMMS (4megs
TC> total); I have a VERY nice 250 watt UPS that has a NEW battery, Also

Maybe interested in the 250 watt UPS.  Give me a call, so I can get an
ideal of it's durability.

205-837-5053


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2619
  To: ROBBIE WILKES                            Date: 07/30/93  6:50a
Subj: Libel and the single  1/2               Refer: 6045
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> and Terry Woodward, and must say that I'm a little confused.  From my
-> end, this is what I've perceived to have happened:

1.  This echo IS NOT a forum for dealer/customer disputes.

2.  This echo IS NOT a forum to arbitrate such disputes.

3.  EOT.

tim
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From: JAMES MCKINNEY                         Number: 2620
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 07/29/93 11:29p
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HI, am i understanding you right a Mitsumi  150ms 150kb transfer
for $200.00.

LET ME KNOW !!! Please...


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2621
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93  8:21a
Subj: CDROM Specials                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Officers Bookcase       Canadian Shareware
Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
Chicano Datebase          PC-SIG Games            LaserTax On CD
Phoenix # 3               Jokes&Pranks            Learning Adventure
Business Assistant        World Travler           Sound Sensation
DeathStar Arcade          Colossal CookBook       ClipArt Goliath
Technotools               Our Solar System        Windoware

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

***********************************************************************



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2622
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93  8:21a
Subj: CDROM Systems                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2623
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93  8:21a
Subj: NEW ADULT CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

)))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((

NOW IN STOCK  BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
bustiest babes in North America including  Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.

                      PRICE - $25.00

To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Now 100% QWK Compatible! More bang for your bucks!
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2624
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 07/29/93 12:36a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> -> Panasonic 501B $300
> -> Chinon 535-CDS $430
 
> Ismail, what are the Access and kb/transfer times on these
> two drives?, I may be interested, especially in the Chinon.
Panasonic 501B 380ms
Chinon 535-CDS 280ms (double spin). Both of them are set drives (complete with
software/interface card/docs) TTYL 

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2625
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 07/29/93 12:38a
Subj: Re: Fax                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Come on, vendors. This is the 90's. I know margins are tight, but many
> fax machines are cheaper than the CD drives you sell, and a dedicated
> line is a tax writeoff.
Hi Don,
We have HP LaserFax online 24hr a day. 1-800-277-5179 / 1-206-473-1634 will
connect to our fax #. TTYL 

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2626
  To: VERNON MELTON                            Date: 07/29/93  1:15a
Subj: PIER 2 CD-ROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

VM>     Just a note to say thanks for the CD.  It's a real nice one, and very
VM>easy to set up with a BBS.
VM>Later,
VM>     Vernon Melton

Glad you are enjoying the Pier 2, and a public congratulations to you for
winning our first CD GIVEAWAY!

Have fun,

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2627
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 07/29/93  1:15a
Subj: TRADE ADULT CD'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KP>KP>   I have the Adult CD Volcano, and would like to trade it for another
adu
KP>MS> KP>cd, If interested, Please let me know.
KP>MS>
KP>MS> I'll trade you a Physical Therapy or a Storm 1 for it.  Give me a shout
i
KP>MS> interested.
KP>MS>

KP>  Okay, I will trade you Volcano for Storm 1.  Please send the CD to:
KP>  My phone is (317) 342-2034  Once I get your disk, then I will ship this
one
KP>the same day.

Kevin,

Well, you've almost got it down.  You see, it is usually customary for
two traders to "cross-ship" CD's when they deal.  That means you trust
me to ship mine, while I trust you to ship yours on the same day.  Give
me a call, and we can set this up, OK?

BTW, do you work for Free Spirit?  I see you plugging their CD's.

Later,

.\\ike
509-457-2892

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 2628
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/29/93  3:44a
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <18 Jul 93  10:21:26>, Michael Konor (1:373/8) writes:

 >I still have a couple left if you know anyone.
I am seriously considering buying two more from ya, one internal, one
external,
what would be the best deal you could give me on those two? 

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 2629
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/29/93  3:54a
Subj: WHILE THEY LAST                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <26 Jul 93  02:14:07>, Boris Osadciw (1:157/46) writes:

 >********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************
 >
 >Learning Adventure
 >Business Assistant
 >Colossal CookBook      
 >Technotools            
I might be interested in these, please tell me a little about Learning 
adventure, business assistant, and Technotools. Or if you are willing to stand
 behind them as being well worth the money just ship them and 4 caddies to me.


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From: CHRIS WISE                             Number: 2630
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/28/93  7:09p
Subj: Wholesaling & retailing                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          Vince Sorensen wrote
----------------------------------------
>>AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK
---------------------------------------- How much is this one going for?

Lee Christopher Wise
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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 2631
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93  5:38a
Subj: Sound blaster                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Doesn't anyone know the command to turn on the Soundblaster
to send a sound source directly through it (such as the CD)
I know there is one.....


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From: JOHN BENJAMIN                          Number: 2632
  To: ALL DEALER                               Date: 07/27/93 12:35a
Subj: Wanted!                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To all Dealers in FLORIDA,
        We want your CD-ROM For Sale postings in a brand new Fido style
net called The Sunshine State Network, a.k.a. SUN_NET.
        This is a Florida network ONLY!  If you don't have a SUN_NET
mail HUB in your area and would like to be a HUB we want to know.
        FREQ from me, 1:3609/16 using the magic name SUN for the latest
SUN_NET nodelist, application form and list of conferences.

John Benjamin
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-2352 þ All rising to a great place is by a winding stair.


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From: MAHMUT KURSUN                          Number: 2633
  To: SHAWN DOWNEY                             Date: 07/26/93  3:21p
Subj: CDROM                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I tried to send you crashmail, referring to the Digital Dreams
CDROM, but couldnt reach you. Could you please contact me, I want
to buy Digital Dreams CDROM's
Kursun CDROM Versand
Karl-Marx-Ring 148
81737 Munich / GERMANY
tel: ++49-89-6378421
fax: ++49-89-6378421
compuserve: 100116,3315

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From: JOHN ANDERSON                          Number: 2634
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  3:17p
Subj: CD-ROMs For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Used CD-ROMs For Sale:
    
    Maniac Mansion 2: Day Of The Tentacle - $40
    Loom - $15
    The 7th Guest - $25
    Infocom Treasure Chest - $20
    
Call (504) 368-0180 in your interested, or send Netmail to John Anderson 
@ 1:396/1
    
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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 2635
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/28/93  4:18p
Subj: Address                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris, I would like to order some CD ROM disks, and send a 
money order instead of using a credit card.  Would you please
indicate the correct address to send the order to?  Also, would
you advise the price of the BB version 1 you have? I would like
to have one, but not sure I can afford it.

Thanks for the info above.



... My CD Rom is slower than your CD Rom!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2636
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/29/93 11:49a
Subj: Re: NEW CD RELEASE - Southern           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Terry Woodward to Blaine Richard <=-
 BR>Includes 300 Megs of the Best GIFs in 24 bit True Color. Installs Quickly
&

 TW> How did you get 24 bit True color in Gif format? Isn't Gif, by
 TW> standard, limited to 256 colors?


Correct you are, mon ami!  All the True Color images I've ever seen
were (huge) TARGA files.

... My other computer is a 486.
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From: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                      Number: 2637
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 07/28/93  9:38a
Subj: Re: TRADE ADULT CD FOR ADULT CD ?       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Is this CD just gifs? If so I'll take it for 25.00 with shipping. How's
that? 
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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 2638
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 11:01p
Subj: who's crazy?                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 07-21-93  00:10 Mike Shannon shared these words of wisdom: 

 MS> With catalogs from Crazy Mike and Crazy Bob, what more do you need? 
 MS> 8) 
 MS> .\\ike

Maybe a few sane ones, or more crazys. Anyway, the disks arrived just
fine. Interestingly enough, on "Too Many Typefonts" I found a font that
I myself had ported to the laserjet format and uploaded (somewhere...) a
few years ago. Immortalized in [whatever they make cd's out of]!


... What do you mean you 'formatted' the cat?
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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 2639
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/26/93 12:13a
Subj: Bottom line pricing                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 07-21-93  00:10 Mike Shannon shared these words of wisdom: 

 MS> growing customer base.  Because of this, I haven't had a chance to sit
 MS> down and update my 2-column "monster" CD price list with all the new
 MS> titles we keep getting.  Come to think of it, I haven't had a chance to

But how will we know of all the great new stuff available if you don't
tell us?


... Illiterate?  Write for FREE HELP!
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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 2640
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  3:34a
Subj: Wanted!                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for:

Busty Babes ($20)
Nix Pix 1   ($40)
Storm 1, 2 or 3. ($20)

And willing to pay price indicated plus shipping.

Please leave msg if interested.  Thanks.


 * OLX 2.1 TD * Chicken heads are the chief food of captive alligators.


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2641
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/28/93  2:32p
Subj: Wanted: Storm 2                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested in buying Storm 2.  It sells new in this conference for $28, so
I'll pay up to $20 delivered for a used one.  Please reply here or in netmail.
Thanks.

I'm also interested in a used copy of Nightowl 9, but that seems pretty
unlikely.  <grin>

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From: SCOTT BROOKER                          Number: 2642
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93 11:34a
Subj: OS/2 Mitsumi Driver                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* Original Area: Cdrom
* Original To  : All (1:348/501)

Hi, Has anyone had trouble with the Mitsumi OS/2 CDROM driver v1.0 by J.P.
Cossette working with the new version of OS/2 2.1 I have just upgraded from the
beta version and cannot seem to get my system to see the CDROM I get an ICON
for a normal disk drive 'not a cd' and when I try to access it im told that its
not formated.
 
 Is there a new version out? also does anyone know how to contact J.P.
cossette, I ordered the driver got the disk and the only way to get ahold of
him is by CompuServe. there was no address on any of the docs. and of course I
tossed out the address that I had once read in an echo.
 
better yet does anyone know of a good Mitsumi Driver for OS/2 that allows you
to access the CDROM from an OS/2 Session not just DOS???
 
 Thanks, Scott.

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From: TERRY MCDILL                           Number: 2643
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93  3:41p
Subj: The 7th Guest and Mitsumi CD-Roms       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi, all!

I just purchased a Mitusmi CD-Rom and was wondering if this drive would
support
the game "The 7th Guest". The other equipment is able to support the game.

Thanks!

Terry

P.S. And if I can play the game, how about a price quote?



... "What?!? This isn't the Files section?!?"
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From: DAN HOOD                               Number: 2644
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/29/93  1:33p
Subj: SCSI CDROM                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Micahel
 > 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.

 > Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin
 > SCSI,
 >   300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM,
 > Refurb.,
 >   64k buffer.

Is the above ROM compatible with OS/2 v2.1? Are there drivers available for it
to run under OS/2? If so I'll take it.

danie

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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 2645
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/27/93 10:26p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <23 Jul 93  12:06:48>, MICHAEL SELLS (1:390/5.4) writes:
 >Ryan, I am sorry to say that the 7th Guest game was sold on Monday. I 
 >hope that you are not too disappionted. It looks like the lag in Net-Mail 
 >kept you from seeing the SOLD post in time. I know that Brian Stark at 
 >1:290/8 said that he also had the game and was willing to trade. Maybe 
 >you can still work a deal with him. Let me know if you want me to rip up 
 >the check or send it back.
Gee, I wish I would have known that you use your net mail address! It was for
a friend, so it would be best it you sent it back. Return the check to Ryan
Denke, 5011 E.18th, Casper, Wy 82609.


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 2646
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/27/93 10:28p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <24 Jul 93  03:02:00>, Israel Gomberg (1:387/822) writes:
 >I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed it.
 >Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
I just sold all my adult Cd's, but how about $36 shipped, cash money.


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2647
  To: JOHN CARROLL                             Date: 07/29/93  8:15p
Subj: This Weeks CDROM Specialse              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JC> and to stay on topic....can you suggest a good CD 
 JC> of Windows Shareware, set up for RA bbs software? 
 JC> Something current?   Thanks!
 
The Windows 1993 has dirs in pcboard type format.  It is pretty good, but not
really RA ready.  I haven't looked at the CD Winbox...it may be closer to what
your looking for...anybody know if it is RA ready?  I have both in stock at an
excellent price.....800-547-7817 to order.

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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 2648
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/29/93  9:12p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Howdy Mike,

I've got a couple of questions for you.  I'm running a Mitsumi CDRom
on my BBS and I've run into a problem.  I've got the 3 CD set of
Shareware Bonanza and they have been doing fine.  But I picked up
the Shareware Studio Vol. 1 and Vol. 2 and my CD won't read them
except on a hit or miss basis.  Now I'm kind of scared to buy any more
CDs until I know what's going on. Now for the questions:

1.  If it is my CDRom, what is the difference between the CDs that my
    reader will read some but not others?

2.  Do you have any suggestions for CDs that my reader will read, such as
    the Night Owl series, etc.?

I would like to pick up a few more CDs to switch out on a regular basis.
I'd like a good mix of up-to-date shareware, g-rated .gif files, utilities,
etc.  Would appreciate any insight you can spare.

                                     Ron


... Have you seen Quasimodo? I had a hunch he was back.
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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 2649
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/29/93  3:02p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-ROM DISCOUNTS              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Could you tell me more about the "Adult Reference Library"?

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 2650
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93 11:03p
Subj: Mitsumi under OS/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can someone tell me what it takes to install a Mitsumi LU005 under OS2? Is it
even possible? What is needed?

CJK

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From: MIKE MAST                              Number: 2651
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 07/29/93  8:46p
Subj: CD File Descriptions                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to David Balnites, Terry Blount said:

 >  I wrote one the other day to do that for someone.  I'll 
 
Terry, thanks for writing that for me!  There are a couple small things that
maybe you could modify...?
 
The program truncates filenames to 8.2 instead of 8.3 characters.
This only happens when the first part of the filename is the maximum of 8
charaters.  If the name is 7 or less, it'll write the full 3 character
extentsion.
 
Example:
 
1234567.abc  remain as is.
but
12345678.abc  will become  12345678.ab
 
While I'm giving you my wish list <G>, could you add an option to truncate the
finished line to a user definable number of characters?  Something like:
 
Mike dir10 /115
 
It'd be nice to be able to truncate the lines to whatever length a certain
program requires.
 
Thanks again!
 
Regards,
Mike
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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 2652
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/30/93  1:07a
Subj: Re: NEW CD RELEASE - Southern           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Blaine Richard <07-27-93 02:28> Terry Woodward wrote:

>   BR>Includes 300 Megs of the Best GIFs in 24 bit True Color. Installs
>
>   How did you get 24 bit True color in Gif format? Isn't Gif, by standard
>   limited to 256 colors?

Terry is says "Includes 300 Megs of the Best GIFs in 24 bit True Color"
Perhaps it should be phrased  "Also includes 300 Megs of the Best GIF images
in 24 bit True Color TIFF format" I hope this clear it up for you and all that
it was unclear to.
                        Blaine R. Richard III  
 
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From: TONY MATA                              Number: 2653
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 07/30/93  2:03a
Subj: Audio Cables                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Try calling TTS systems at 800-887-4968. 
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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 2654
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  3:14p
Subj: Used CD-Roms                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you are a SysOp of a BBS, have we got a deal for
you.  We have again purchased another shipment of
good condition Hitachi CDR-1503S external CD-ROM
drives. These units are PERFECT for BBS operations
and have a proven track record for years with may
of us. Price listed below are plus shipping.
Quanities are limited, so order yours today!
These units can be daisy chained to use up to four
drives on one controller. When ordering, remember
that each drive needs one (1) cable. MasterCard and
Visa are excepted!
Bare CDR-1503S external CD-ROM drive..........$126.00 USED
Interface cards................................$71.00 NEW
Cables.........................................$15.00 NEW
Drive carry a 30 day warranty, for repair or replacement
by us. Please contact us for more information, or orders...
We accept VISA, Mastercard, Carte Blanche and Diners Club too!
Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE BBS
P.O. Box 21
Essexville, MI  48732-0021
Fido 1:239/675
517-892-5079  14.4


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 2655
  To: JOHN ROBINSON                            Date: 07/28/93  7:06p
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

APPARENTLY THERE ARE MORE THAN DAVE REEDS THAN JUST I. THE RESPONSE DATE WAS
JUST TWO DAYS AGO AND I HAVE NOT BEEN ON THIS BBS SINCE MAY WHEN I CALLED TO
GET MY LOD REGISTRATION. MANY REGRETS TO WHOEVER THIS MESSAGE WAS ACTUALLY
INTENDED FOR... I KNOW NOT WHO HAS BEEN ON THIS BBS USING MY NAME AND PASSWORD,
PERHAPS I SHOULD CHANGE MY INFO.....

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From: DAVID M. WHITE                         Number: 2656
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/29/93  2:06p
Subj: BUY 3 GET POWERPAK FREE!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you publish a catalog, I would be interested in getting a copy.  You can
send to to David M. White, 452 N. Bull Run Dr., Tucson, Az 85748.



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From: DAVID M. WHITE                         Number: 2657
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/29/93  2:07p
Subj: BUY 3 GET POWERPAK FREE!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

An addendum to previous message re: catalog.  I am NOT interested in adult
stuff.



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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2658
  To: ROBBIE WILKES                            Date: 07/29/93 11:30a
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

IG>I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed
RW>it.
IG>Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
IG>                   -TWITCH the Vorpal Bunny-

RW>Hey Israel,

RW>Will trade the Volcanoe adult CD for it.  Let me know if you're
RW>interested.

Sorry, But I have aleady traded it.

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2659
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/29/93  7:26p
Subj: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I think I'll wait until you can tell me a bit more about them. Thanks

Bob, please excuse my "short memory", but my mail reader recently went in for
major surgery........... Thankfully, it's pulled through, and it looks as
though it will survive, however all of it's memories are simply that,
memories...

If you would be so king as to refresh it's little mind as to the topic of the
discussion, I'd more than happy to supply you with the information you've
requested.

;-)

Regards,

Pat

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 2660
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93  9:01p
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROM for Sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its OS/2 CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
300 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2661
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  6:59a
Subj: SCSI Cdrom Drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $220.00 with caddy.

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.

Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin SCSI,
  300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,
  64k buffer. Warranty. 

205-837-5053 




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From: ZACHARY HAMM                           Number: 2662
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 07/29/93  4:15p
Subj: DRIVES                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jim could you please send me a catalog?  I'm a sysop and reseller in NC
and have many CD-ROM customers.


Zack Hamm
5317 baywood Forest Drive
Knightdale, NC 27545-8916


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From: STEPHEN BURT                           Number: 2663
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  2:01a
Subj: SHAREWARE                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am trying to find a good shareware CD that has a lot of QUALITY games on it. 
I have the Software Vault I and II.  I bought them both for 35 dollars.  That's
a lot cheaper than I've seen them elsewhere.  Not too bad for a wide selection,
and as I already said 35 wasn't bad for the pair; however, I am looking for a
good game CD.  One with a lot of apogee, etc...  I also would like to find one
that also has a lot of hints for games.  I am still trying to get through
Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade(help anyone?)  
Thanks,
Stephen Burt


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From: NANCY PORTER                           Number: 2664
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 07/29/93 10:07a
Subj: MITSUMI 350ms CDROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JP> Does anyone know if the proprietary controller that comes with the 
JP> mitsumi 16 bit 350ms access drive will support a second drive?          
JP>                                                                         
JP> I'd like to add a second drive but dont have a free card slot for       
JP> another controller <grin> or frankly the IRQ to space.                  
 
Nope, it sure won't.  You can put in 2 drives, but they each must 
have their own controller card. 
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2665
  To: TED KIDD                                 Date: 07/30/93  4:45p
Subj: CDRoms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> EB> Some CDRoms for sale:
>>
>> EB> Source -- Gobs of C code                 $20.00   (MAR 92)
>>
>> Is this disc BBS compatible?  If so, I might just order it...

    It is.  It has files that support most of the major types of BBS's.
I put it up on my board with ease.

Eric


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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 2666
  To: BABE-AHOLICS                             Date: 07/29/93  4:46p
Subj: THE RECOMMENDED ADULT CD                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G         *******   **  **  ***** ****** **    **
  e       **    **  **  **  **      **    **  **
    t     *******   **  **  *****   **     ****
          **    **  **  **     **   **      **
          *******    ****   *****   **      **

Hey Canadians!

We've got BUSTY BABES... The best adult disc, period.
Features thousands of sizzling pictures of the bustiest
babes in North America including (yes!) Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF (it rocks!), and it's BBS Ready.

Only if you order from us can can get this special bonus:
your copy will be hand-signed by one of the Canadian models!

Get BUSTY BABES, release 3.0 for a special price of $40
that includes all taxes throughout the month of August.
PLUS there's no delay or worry about an unscheduled stop
at customs, because they're shipped direct to you from
within Canada!

Only from CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA.

6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk., S4N 4G7
306-789-4654 Voice    306-789-8690 Fax
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From: ROBERT MCELWEE                         Number: 2667
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  8:14p
Subj: CD's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



DC Computing

This is July's CD price list for DC Computing
==========================================================================


101 Positions 1&2 (adult) (each)                            $75.00ea.
Adult Palate (adult)                                        $35.00
Adult Referance Library  (adult)                            $23.00
After Dark Trilogy (adult)                                  $40.00
Amateur Models (adult)                                      $30.00
Animal's MPC or DOS                                         $26.00
Arthur's Teacher Trouble                                    $27.00
Barney Bear Goes to School                                  $24.00
Barney Bear goes to Space                                   $24.00
Best of Vivid                                               $
Bibles & Religion                                           $19.00
Business Master                                             $21.00
Busty Babes 3.0 Revised (adult)                             $30.00
CD Winbox                                                   $28.00
Clip Art Goliath                                            $19.00
Club Expose' (adult)                                        $43.00
Colormagic                                                  $27.00
Colossal Cookbook                                           $19.00
Complete Bookshop                                           $19.00
Dictionaries & Languages                                    $19.00
Digital Dancing Interactive Movie (adult)                   $45.00
Digital Dreams (adult)                                      $28.00
Dirty Talk Interactive Movie (adult)                        $48.00
Doors of Passion Interactive Movie (adult)                  $48.00
Ecstacy (adult)                                             $30.00
Education Master                                            $21.00
Encyclopedia of Clip Art                                    $25.00
Encyclopedia of Sound                                       $19.00
Fonts #1                                                    $26.00
Gamemaster                                                  $21.00
Games 1993                                                  $24.00
Girls of Vivid Stills (adult)                               $70.00
Grolier's Encyclopedia DOS 5.0                              $49.00
Grolier's Encyclopedia Windows Ver.                         $49.00
Ham Radio 3.0                                               $19.00
Hidden Obsessions Movie (adult)                             $46.00
Hot Pix #2,3,4,5 (adult) (each)                             $29.00ea.
House of Dreams Movie (adult)                               $46.00
House of Games                                              $26.00
Kama Sutra (adult)                                          $
Mantis                                                      $26.00
Mario is Missing w/ World Atlas                             $27.00
Mayo Clinic                                                 $33.00
Mixed Up Mother Goose                                       $25.00
Monster Disc (2 discs)                                      $37.00
Monster Media #1                                            $35.00
My First Time (adult)                                       $50.00
National Parks                                              $27.00
Night Owl 8                                                 $29.00
Nightwatch Inteactive Movie (adult)                         $56.00
Our Solar System                                            $19.00
P.C. SIG Ver #12                                            $24.00
Photo CD (Kodak or Tempra)                                  $30.00
Photo Gallery (adult)                                       $35.00
Pinacotheca - Multimedia                                    $26.00
Precision Mapping                                           $80.00
Prophone (7 discs 1993)                                     $130.00
Prophone Business Disk                                      $36.00
Publishers Paradise                                         $31.00
Publisher's Dream Disk                                      $36.00
Return to the Moon                                          $36.00
Sci-Fi                                                      $26.00
Seymore Butts Interactive Movie (adult)                     $48.00
Seedy Rom Movie Disk (adult)                                $40.00
Shareware Extravaganza (4 discs)                            $45.00
Shareware Studio #2                                         $23.00
Sherlock Holmes Detective                                   $27.00
Smutware (adult)                                            $28.00
Southern Beauties (adult)                                   $37.00
Software Vault #2                                           $25.00
Sound Sensations                                            $19.00
Space Quest 4/ Kings Quest (each)                           $25.00ea.
Storm 2/3 (adult) (each)                                    $27.00ea.
Technotools                                                 $19.00
Time Table of Science                                       $25.00
Too Many Typefonts                                          $19.00
Toolworks Referance Library                                 $27.00
U.S. History                                                $32.00
U.S./ World Atlas                                           $28.00
Windows Master                                              $23.00
Windows 1993                                                $27.00
Windoware                                                   $19.00
Women of Venus                                              $28.00
Xtreme (adult)                                              $31.00

Caddies                                                     $6.75ea.


============================================================================
 NEW NEW NEW NEW NEW *  MAC Titles * NEW NEW NEW NEW NEW                       
          

Adult Palate (adult)                                        $36.00
Color Magic                                                 $27.00
Digital Dancing Interactive Movie (adult)                   $63.00
Dream Machine Interactive Movie (adult)                     $63.00
Girls of Vivid (adult)                                      $65.00
Hidden Obsessions Movie (adult)                             $50.00
House of Dreams Movie (adult)                               $39.00
Photo Gallery (adult)                                       $39.00
Night Trips Movie (adult)                                   $49.00
Nightwatch Interactive Movie (adult)                        $47.00
Secrets Movie (adult)                                       $47.00
Seymore Butts Interactive Movie (adult)                     $53.00
Women of Venus                                              $31.00


============================================================================

All prices and availability are subject to 
change without notice.  CODs only. 
BBS # 1-803-873-5797   DAZED AND CONFUSED BBS I
BBS # 1-803-851-7701   DAZED AND CONFUSED BBS III
Fido # 1:372/57
For a descriptive listing of all CD's, download CDSALES.TXT 
or it can be FREQ'd from the above BBS numbers or the Fido number.
Magic word for Freqing is "CDSALES".

DC Computing
P.O. Box 1026
Ladson, S.C.
29456

                                  








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From: ROBERT MCELWEE                         Number: 2668
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  8:14p
Subj: CD's for sale                           Refer: NONE
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From: ROBERT MCELWEE                         Number: 2669
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  8:17p
Subj: Busty Babes for $25 + shipping          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


    DC Computing is now offering Busty Babes for $25 plus shipping and
handling...Anyone interested, please call Dazed and Confused BBS at
803-873-5797...You can also freq the lateset list of available cds from
1:372/57, magic word is CDSALES...This offer for Busty Babes is for this week
only...Get it while you can

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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 2670
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/29/93  4:56p
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well, I ordered it from someone at 25.00 but that was more than a week ago,
I prepay with a credit card.. I really don't know what's going on...!!
Thanks anyways....

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From: DREW IANNUZZI                          Number: 2671
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  1:21p
Subj: Peer2                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In need of PEER 2 Cd-ROM Disk.


  Reply EMAIL with prices... Thanx.

                                ...Drew
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From: CHRIS WISE                             Number: 2672
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 07/29/93  5:28p
Subj: Fax                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

----------------------------------------
DD> FAXMODEMS DON'T WORK. AT LEAST NOT WHEN RECEIVING A FAX.

   You must have the wrong type, because mine works fine.  I have recieved many
things and have sent more than you can shake a stick at!


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From: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                      Number: 2673
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93  5:38p
Subj: ADULT CD'S                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for anyone who is willing to sell their adult CD's--such as
Sexcapades The Movie, Hot Pix...or anything similar.  I prefer movies over
gifs.

If you have any of these CD's, any advice as to which one's are worth
purchasing would be appreciated--especially any opinions that you have about
sexcapades the movie.


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 2674
  To: LEN BUSSEY                               Date: 07/22/93 11:28p
Subj: Cd Swap                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LB>I have the following CD's I'd like to swap for shareware CDs and/or
LB>adult CD's.

LB>Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
LB>The Secret of Monkey Island
LB>Loom

LB>Call me at 615-659-9216 voice or
LB>           615-659-6470 FIDO node 3622/10 or 2010 BBS

LB>--- RBBSMAIL 17.1C
LB> * Origin: 2010 BBS - Petersburg TN (615) 659-6470 (RBBS-PC 1:3622/10.0)
I'll trade ya either Nautilus NET CD or Starvector 208
                Let me know what else you are looking for.  Does Secret
                of Monkey Island require a fast Cd rom? Does it have
                Soundblaster sound!
                                Sam Figueroa


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 2675
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/22/93 11:33p
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC>CD Winbox.....28.50 * Software Vault 2....23.95 * Global Explorer..93.50
DC>Games 1993....24.50 * Shareware Studio 2..23.95 * Bible Library....28.95
DC>Windows 1993..27.50 * Up All Night........19.95 * NG/SD Mammals....26.50
DC>Mayo Clinic...28.50 * Aminet (Amiga)......16.95 * Busty Babes......29.95
DC>Nightowl v9...28.95 * Reference Library...26.95 * Ecstasy..........29.95
DC>Nightowl v8...26.95 * Readers Library.....28.95 * Nix Pix 2/3/4/5..29.95
DC>Pier 1........27.95 * Clip Art Galore..28.95  We sell Hundreds of Titles
DC>All Chestnut Titles (15 CDS)...13.50 * Many Walnut Creek Titles...16.95
DC>PCJ - Orders - 800-547-7817 *-* Orders\Inquiry - 615-339-0235 (24 Hrs)
DC>Fax 615-479-1047 *-* BBS 615-478-2890 *-* No surcharge for credit cards

DC>--- Maximus 2.01wb
DC> * Origin: MAXspeed BBS * 486/66 Mhz ain't FAST enough..!! (1:362/119)
Doug,
        What is on the "Up All Night" cd, is it adult or what?
                                Thanks,
                                        Sam Figueroa


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 2676
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/28/93 12:03a
Subj: CD-ROM TRADE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

IG>I have the following CD-ROM's I would be willing to trade, especialy for
IG>adult CD's.

IG>1.Loom
IG>2.The Secret of Monkey Island
IG>3.Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
IG>4.A Line in the Sand

IG>Israel M. Gomberg
IG>330 Kitty Hawk Rd. #2806
IG>Universal City, TX 78148
IG>(210)945-9672


IG>... I was *this* close to seeing elvis. But my shovel broke.
IG>___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

IG>--- TMail v1.31.5
IG> * Origin: Last Chance TBBS *HST v32b* (210)805-8525 San Antonio,Tx
IG>(1:387/822)
What would you take for either or both cd's especially Monkey Island???
I have a Nautilus CD I would trade for it, it has multimedia, and other
Windows stuff on it!  Do the cd's have manuals?
                        Sam Figueroa
                        Sam's Software
                        (615) 728-7383


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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 2677
  To: JACKIE ROGERS                            Date: 07/30/93  9:15p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Jackie Rogers to J.p. Ladner <=-

 JR> The Mitsumi is a low-cost drive, and can be found brand-new 
 JR> for as low as $175 
 JR> if you shop around.  The going rate appears to be about $190.  I
 JR> personally  don't recommend the drive, as whenever there's a disc
 JR> returned to me as  defective, it works fine in our office.  I call the
 JR> customer to inquire about  the type of drive they're using, and they
 JR> ALWAYS say, "Mitsumi."  Seems the  Mitsumi has a problem reading many
 JR> of the discs out there on the market.  HOWEVER, industry sources have
 JR> indicated that Mitsumi has  found a problem with 
 JR> their controller card, and have corrected it.

I picked up on a similar thread the other day, and since I'm having a
problem reading the Shareware Studio Vols 1&2 I called the dealer where
I got my Mitsumi.  He informed me that this is BS(I think he is waffling).  

So now I'm real confused.  

Where and how do I get more info?  Is Mitsumi going to give
an upgrade to owners of their drives?  My unit is still under warranty, so
I would think that Mitsumi would owe me a correction.

                                           Ron


... RAM = Rarely Adequate Memory
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From: CARLOS AVELLANET                       Number: 2678
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/29/93  9:23p
Subj: Re: BUY 3 GET POWERPAK FREE!            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

 MS> Get the three newest and hottest adult CD's on the market for the
 MS> super low price of only $89, and receive a PowerPak Gold 3.0 shareware
 MS> CD absolutely free!  This offer is for a limited time only, so hurry!

     Which is this PPG 3.0?  I have the fall 1992 edition, Is the 3.0 
     newer than that?

Carlos.

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From: KEVIN WAKEFIELD                        Number: 2679
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/12/93  4:20p
Subj: New adult cd                            Refer: NONE
Read: 08/01/93  7:36a                       Private: No 

On 07-10-93 Tim Helton said to Bob Jackson:

TH>->  WH> > KW>            ***   WILD WOMEN Volume 1    ***
TH>-> You've got the wrong guy! This disc is being published out of 
TH>-> Australia. I sent the note to them asking about street prices.  So 
TH>-> far, I haven't heard back.
TH>
TH>Actually, this disc is coming out of Atlanta... Kevin Wakefield is the
TH>publisher and I have the worldwide exclusive distribution rights to
TH>tim


   Didn't you know that we now have offices in Sydney and Melbourne? <g>

   Good'ay mate.....


           <<<  kevin  >>>


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From: JOHNG FISHER                           Number: 2680
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/15/93  6:00p
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>I'm interested in this drive but I'm leary of a 150ms drive and
JL>software for only $200 ???

works even on 7th guest--has stereo output to headphone jack in front.  it's
entirely worth it....

===
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 2681
  To: MIKE MAST                                Date: 07/31/93  9:33p
Subj: CD File Descriptions                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MM> Terry, thanks for writing that for me!  There are a 
 MM> couple small things that maybe you could modify...?
 MM>  
 MM> The program truncates filenames to 8.2 instead of 8.3 characters.
 MM> This only happens when the first part of the filename 
 MM> is the maximum of 8 charaters.  If the name is 7 or 
 MM> less, it'll write the full 3 character extentsion.

Sorry... I noticed that yesterday and fixed it.    You can freq the fixed
version from me at 3625/441  under the magic name "Maxcdset"


 MM> While I'm giving you my wish list <G>, could you add 
 MM> an option to truncate the finished line to a user 
 MM> definable number of characters?  Something like:

 I have found out that if the line exceeds about 240 chars then
 Maximus will show the rest of the line on a second line with
 "Offline" written before that part of the description.  I am
 currently setting it to read the first 5 lines of the extended
 description.  That seems to work out best with the least amount
 of work.


 MM> It'd be nice to be able to truncate the lines to 
 MM> whatever length a certain program requires.


I can whip up a utility... In fact I already have one somewhere that will read
EVERY file in a directory and whack off anything past a certain column.  If the
current version you freq does not satisfy then let me know...

BTW  I'll have more cases in a couple days... I'll send you 2 unless you let me
know you don't want them.


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2682
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/30/93  2:48p
Subj: Re: Night Owls 9                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 26 Jul 93  23:28:00, I heard Jim Lambert shout to J.P. Ladner:

JL> JL>Can anybody match a legitamate ad for night owls 9 of $29 ??  If so 
JL>   >please tell me the soonest you could send it to me in VA...I had ordered
JL>   >one about 14 days ago and it still hasn't arrived so I called and 
JL>   >cancled the damn thing...I need it as fast as possible... 


     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!


             
               Call Free Spirit And ask for Barney!
                      ******************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.
        

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2683
  To: JOHN CARROLL                             Date: 07/30/93  1:04a
Subj: This Weeks CDROM Specials               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JC>and to stay on topic....can you suggest a good CD of Windows Shareware, set
u
JC>for RA bbs software? Something current?   Thanks!

If you want the BEST Windows shareware CD available, try CD Winbox.  Just
released, with a full 650mb of mostly '93 files.  In stock at $27 if you
are interested.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2684
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 07/30/93  1:04a
Subj: Fax                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DD>On several occasions I have tried sending a fax to a vendor, only to get a
DD>series of unrecognizable handshaking tones. I then usually call voice, and
am
DD>told "Try again, once I reconfigure the faxmodem" or "Try again, but press
yo
DD>SEND button before my faxmodem answers", or "I only receive faxes from 8am
to
DD>6pm", or "Oh, I don't accept faxes, I use the faxmodem to only send catalogs
DD>out", or "It's for my suppliers' use only".

Then you haven't called Starvector!  We use a good ol' iron horse Murata
desktop model.  She's standing by 24 hours a day, waiting for your call!
Give us a try @ 509-457-2966 any time.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2685
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  1:04a
Subj: CD'S ON SALE!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

___________________________________________________________________________

                   STARVECTOR CD-ROM BLOWOUT SPECIALS!
___________________________________________________________________________

      - These are special prices, and are for a limited time only.
      - Sale limited to stock on hand, so hurry!

                              GENERAL TITLES
                              --------------
Bibles & Religion...$10   Colossal Cookbook...$10   Our Solar System....$10
Shareware Overload..$10   Windows 93..........$21   SoundWAV............$24
Deathstar Arcade....$10   Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15   House of Games......$20
Ham Radio 3.0.......$10   Sound Sensations....$10   Windoware...........$10
Complete Bookshop...$10   Technotools.........$10   Too Many Typefonts..$10
Compton's Interact..$95   Clipart Goliath.....$10   Dictionaries/Lang...$10

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2686
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  1:04a
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 300+
CD-ROM titles that we stock, please feel free to call our new BBS at
509-457-0206.  The system is using a U.S.R. Sportster V.32bis, so you
should have no problem logging on at any speed between 300bps and
14,400bps.

>>>>    All callers may download our catalog on the first call!    <<<<

Once in, you can go the the <F>ile section from the main menu and
download "STARCAT.ZIP".  This contains our latest prices, newest titles,
and CD descriptions.

While online, you may want to download one or more of the CD-ROM file
listings that are available.

The Starvector BBS is online, and waiting to serve you!  Look for
continuous updates and improvements in the near future, with more CD
file listings, new online doors, and more!

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2687
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/30/93  9:09a
Subj: WHOLESALING & RETAILING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi there,  do you have Space Quest 4/Kings Quest for abouut 35.00?

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2688
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/30/93  9:21a
Subj: THE MONSTER IS BACK!  2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi there,

    You advertised:
SPACE QUEST 4 = 25.00
KINGS QUEST 5 = 25.00

It says at top that you can beet any Advertised Price...  I found a deal that
lets these two games come together for about $35...  Can you beat that... Here
I'll give you the guys name and Number....

He is:
Doug Carpenter and his BBS number is (615)-479-1047...

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2689
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/30/93  9:26a
Subj: Space Quest 4/Kings Quest CD Pkg.       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi there Doug,
    I would like to know how you would like to be paid if Mike Shannon can not
beat your prices for Space quest 4/Kings Quest...  So please tell me if you
would like a money order and the totall cost CANADIAN would be..  (APROXX)...


Well get back to you in a few days.

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From: DON HANCOCK                            Number: 2690
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/25/93  7:25a
Subj: Red Hot Cd'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

BO> ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec

    Hi Boris. I'm looking for virtually any programming CD's and this looks
    like about the most I'd pay. However, I don't know ANY of the available
    CD's. I got Source CD-ROM Mar'92 with my CD, but it stinks. I'm
    particularly interested in C, C++, Clipper and dBASE files. My
    father-in-law is interested in Pascal. What kind of files (and their
    numbers) are on this and other disks? Looking to add 3 or 4 more to my
    collection. Thanx for any info....

 * SLMR 2.1a * If it jams, force it. If it breaks, it needed replacing a

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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 2691
  To: ELLEN COTTON                             Date: 07/30/93  8:03p
Subj: MO rcvd/Will ship Monday!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ellen-- Received your money order today for the Adobe Type Manager. Will put
it in the mail to you first thing on Monday. Please drop me a note when it
arrives so I can clear my saved messages on this item. Thanx!

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 2692
  To: JOSEPH THOMAS                            Date: 07/30/93  8:06p
Subj: Encyclo_CD gone                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Just a follow-up note to let you know that the person who made an offer on the
Encyclopedia CD did get back with me and still wants it, so I'm afraid it's
gone if he sends the $$. Wanted to let you know so you weren't waiting on me
to look elsewhere. Thanks anyway.

- Heather
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2693
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93  1:59a
Subj: MIX or MATCH                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Canadian Shareware      Ultimate Shareware
Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
PC-SIG Games              LaserTax On CD          Phoenix # 3
Jokes&Pranks              Learning Adventure      Business Assistant
World Travler             Sound Sensation         DeathStar Arcade
Colossal CookBook         ClipArt Goliath         Technotools
Our Solar System          Bible & Religion

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

***********************************************************************



Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2694
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93  1:59a
Subj: CD SYSTEMS                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2695
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93  1:59a
Subj: BUSTY BABE III                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

)))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((

NOW IN STOCK  BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
bustiest babes in North America including  Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.

                      PRICE - $25.00

To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: JIM CLEMENTS                           Number: 2696
  To: KAREL VITAMVAS                           Date: 07/29/93 10:58a
Subj: MAP CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KV>CS> I heard there is a CD that has every street in the US on it. IF

KV>I think there are several different titles available.  I have PRECISION MAPP
KV>U.S.A. VERSION 1993.   It contains 2 CDROMs For the maps and 1 CD ROM with t
KV>AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONE BOOK as a bonus.  It retails in Canada for $139.95 C

KV> * Origin: Cheers BBS: -=> Cambridge, Ontario <=- (1:221/206.0)


Karel, could you do me a favor. Could you look at the Precision Map disc
or docs and give me whatever information there is on the publisher's
name/address/telephone or fax numbers?

I've asked one of the distributors here for the info but he's ignored
several messages -- perhaps he thinks I wish to become a competitor. Not
so, I'm a computer journalist who lives in that smoggy city to the south
of you, Hamilton. I'd appreciate any assistance you can give me. Cheers!

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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 2697
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  3:49p
Subj: NEW Corel ArtShow 3 CD & Book           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Latest Corel ArtShow 3 
     
     CD with beautifully printed coffee table book
          
          ArtShow 3 Program (does not need CorelDraw to run) is run from 
          Windows and allows searching  & viewing of all 3000 images 
          accompanied by on-line MIDI music
          
          3000 images in CorelDRAW .CDR format (editable in CorelDraw)
          
          Corel CD-Audio Program- allows you to play your MUSIC CDs in
          your CD-ROM drive.

          Corel ARTVIEW Screen Saver for Windows 3.1

          >> Still Sealed-- BRAND NEW <<

          $25 + UPS

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 2698
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/30/93  6:00p
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hi, michael.  the drives rod and i ordered arrived just fine yesterday, but you
sent me an external terminator and i needed an internal one.  that drive i got
from you is going inside my computer (remember the internal cable you made for
me?)  anyway, there is not a terminator to be found anywhere in fresno or by
mail order from anyone i could contact thru computer shopper. 

the terminator you sent wound up on rod's drive, so it wasnt a total waste -
he's up and running and happy as a clam.

\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2

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From: LARISSA KOHLER                         Number: 2699
  To: CRAIG CURRY                              Date: 07/29/93  7:54p
Subj: Re: Walnut Creek Games CDROM            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**** CRAIG CURRY just happened to say to LARISSA KOHLER ****

CC> They've been putting off my order too. I am looking forward to
CC> the CD
CC> "if" it ever ships. Reminds me of some hardware venders I know...
CC> I guesse I will keep my order standing, but I'm wondering if I
CC> shouldn't
CC> get another CD in the mean time.

I wouldn't...it looks like as soon as it comes off this new publisher, it'll be
out....which should be soon.  :)  Have you tried either their windows cdrom or
their dos cdrom?  I've got both and they're excellent!
     Larissa

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From: JOSEPH THOMAS                          Number: 2700
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/31/93  8:23a
Subj: Encyclo_CD gone                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks, I will search the world for a copy until I find one. 
I see a Name Boris O. is selling CDS. Will try him.


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 2701
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/31/93 12:40a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> DC> MS>             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <
->
-> DC>Hogwash.
->
-> Hogwash?  Boy, there's a term I haven't heard in a while.  Like I sai
-> Doug, you're certainly welcome to "call my bluff" any time you see fi
-> If it IS "hogwash", then you should have no trouble proving it.  Go a
-> and advertise them for less than $10, and let's see what happens!  8)
->
-> .\\ike
->
-> ---
->  * SLMR 2.1a * I am Clinton of Borg: resistance is taxable!
->
-> --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
->  * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:
->
 YO mike

Do you have the adult cd featuring teri weigel?


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 2702
  To: LOYD CRAFT                               Date: 07/31/93 12:52a
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->                  ****  Four-Star Enterprises  ****
->                        Custom CDROM Service
->
->   Our CDROM Recorder is fired up, and ready to serve you!   We can
->   produce a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive
->   overnight!
->
->    o Complete confidentiality assured.  Your data will NOT be pilfere
->    o Free up Megabytes of expensive magnetic media.
->    o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
->    o Use as a master to transfer data to a pressing facility.
->    o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
->    o Great for:  BBS Files, Document Imaging, Permanent Archival
->                  Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
->    o In MOST cases, 24 hour turnaround is possible.
->    o Free UPS Blue label shipping to the Continental U.S.
->    o COMING SOON!  Compact Disk AUDIO Production!  COMING SOON!
->
-> Pricing for Custom CD production:
->
-> o 527 Meg:  o $1 per megabyte UP TO $139.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST
->             o Minimum charge $85 for less than 85MB.
->             o $50 for each duplicate after paying full price for the
->
-> o 650 Meg:  o $1 per Megabyte UP TO $144.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST
->             o Minimum charge $90 for less than 90MB.
->             o $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the
->
-> o CD Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee.
->
->    Data formats Supported:               Software Supported:
->  ---------------------------           ----------------------- o 60MB
-> DC600/6XXX Streaming Tape.  o Sytos Plus o Mountain Filesafe
->                                    o Everex Tape
->
-> o QIC 40/80  (Colorado Jumbo 250)  o PCTools o Colorado Software
->
-> o Floppy (At additional cost)      o Fastback 3.0 o PCTools
->
-> o Hard Disk
->
-> ** 4mm DAT, and 125/250MB 5.25" Streaming tape will be available SOON
->
-> Terms:
->
->   Prepay for service via Certified check or money order.  Personal
->   checks must clear bank before production begins.  SORRY, we are
->   not able to accept your Visa/Mastercard at this time.
->
-> *** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***
->  For the months of July and August, all orders qualify
->  for a 10% discount from our CURRENT pricing.  Offer
->  ends August 31, 1993.
-> *** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***
->
-> Notice:
->
-> Four Star Enterprises will NOT be a party to the creation of "elite",
-> pirated software collections on CDROM.  Such activity is morally WRON
-> illegal.  If this is your intention, please do not waste my time or y
->
-> For further information, please File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node
-> 1:239/900.0 at V.32bis speeds, or call our voice number.
->
-> Loyd Craft
-> Four Star Enterprises
-> 517-865-6800 Voice (11:00 AM - 6:00PM Monday - Saturday) 517-865-6066
-> Support BBS) 1:239/900.0 (Fidonet)
->
-> ===
->  * OLX 2.1 * Ea$yTerm$:100% down;pay nothing for the rest of your lif
->
->
-> --- GEcho 1.00+
->  * Origin: Four Star DayDreams - St. Charles, MI (517)865-6066 (1:239
->
 Give me a call at (305)7822631 when you are accepting 5.25 scsi tapes

That's what my favorite .gifs are backed up on 400 megs

Vito


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From: LARRY CHARPIAT                         Number: 2703
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/30/93  1:57a
Subj: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can the Pioneer six disk changers access the six different CD ROM disk
through a BBS menu with a software switch or command?


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2704
  To: DAN HOOD                                 Date: 07/31/93 11:32a
Subj: Re: SCSI CDROM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DH>  > 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.
DH>
DH>  > Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin
DH>  > SCSI,
DH>  >   300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM,
DH>  > Refurb.,
DH>  >   64k buffer.
DH>
DH> Is the above ROM compatible with OS/2 v2.1? Are there drivers
DH> available for it to run under OS/2? If so I'll take it.

I've sold a couple of OS/2 users and haven't heard anything about it not
working.  The drivers came with your OS/2 and your particular SCSI
controller.


*FSED91j*
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2705
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/31/93  7:30a
Subj: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You had posted a list of adult titles for sale and I'd asked for more 
information. You supplied a little more, but not enough for me to make a 
purchase decision. Oddly enough, Goosebump Graphics posted a similar list 
shortly thereafter with somewhat more inclusive descriptions. Bottom  line:
I'll probably wait and work through the titles I'm interested in  with Mike
Shannon one or two at a time over then next several weeks. 
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2706
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/31/93  8:49a
Subj: cd's shipping to canada??               Refer: NONE
Read: 08/01/93  7:40a                       Private: No 

 TH> country.  Me thinks that it's not ANY government's responsibilit  
 TH> force-feed morality, thru censorship, on its citizens.  But then  
                                                                       
  
How do you feel about FidoNet moderators?  Apparently the CD-ROM 
Information echo will no longer allow even mention of the subject of 
adult CDs. Do you plan a similar change for this echo? 
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 2707
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  9:09p
Subj: Netware PD/ShrWare CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its Netware CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
801 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2708
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/01/93  9:02a
Subj: cd's shipping to canada??               Refer: 6151
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->  TH> country.  Me thinks that it's not ANY government's responsibilit
->  TH> force-feed morality, thru censorship, on its citizens.  But then
->
->
-> How do you feel about FidoNet moderators?  Apparently the CD-ROM

A Moderator has full say-so regarding conference policy.  As such,
there's nothing wrong with implementing a "rule" like this... So as far
as FidoNet is concerned, everything is cool.

The fundamental question is:  Are FidoNet moderators legally responsible
for the mail that is posted in the echos?  That's a good question.  If
the moderator owned copyright to the echo, I would say "yes"... If not,
I would say "no".  In its current state, a moderator "might" be
responsible.

That brings us to another question:  Do moderators own copyright?  Who
knows?  The issue of ownership of an individual echo is not defined in
FidoNet policy, nor has there been a precedent setting case.

OK, who owns copyright to the echos?  Tom Jennings owns copyright to the
nodelist (good for him), but not the echos... George Peace?  He's the
king of the hill in the network, but he doesn't own the echos (a
moderator has the authority to cut GP's feed)... Are the echos public
domain?  They can't be because there is no one of sufficient authority
to declare them as such... So, who owns copyright: "dunno".

The punch line is "yes" - someone is legally responsible for the mail
that flows thru this echo, but that "someone" is unknown.

-> adult CDs. Do you plan a similar change for this echo?

Right now, no.  I see no fundamental legal differences between what
occurs here & what occurs in the back of PC Magazine... Obviously I
won't allow specific, nontechnical, discussion of these discs in this
echo - that goes without saying.  I guess what I'm trying to say is, "if
it's good enough for PC Mag, it's good enough for me"...

tim
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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 2709
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/29/93  8:50a
Subj: Re: Adult Titles                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello There Doug!

In a message to John Robinson <07/27/93> Doug Carpenter wrote:

DC>  JR> Not a bad idea.. I would not consider buying from a 
DC>  JR> vendor who shows their
DC>  JR> dislike for some one in their advertisments.. Be it 
DC>  JR> the President or anyone
DC>  JR> else for that Matter..

DC> You democrats are all alike <G D&R>.

Well, I "Never said" I was a Democrat....
Just like to see The CD echo used for CD-ROM.."NOT" Clinton Discussion
as some have chose to do..(Poor Taste).... <GBFG>   ^       ^

John

 * WCE 1.10/2035 * Just Another Happy Wildcat Sysop..1:138/173

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2710
  To: MARK STEIGER                             Date: 07/29/93  6:04p
Subj: interface card                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ATI Technologies has one, Stereo F/X CD.
It is about the same as the S.B. pro, but has enhanced noise filtering,
and less distortion.
It costs about $145 mailorder.

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2711
  To: DICK HUDDLESTON                          Date: 07/29/93  6:12p
Subj: Re: CAN U READ THIS?                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I read it fine too.

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2712
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/29/93  6:15p
Subj: Re: Old 600ms CD-ROM driv               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does that mean we get a discount?
Say, after hearing this, what exactly IS a good CD-ROM?
I am BADLY in the market for one :)

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2713
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/29/93  6:18p
Subj: Toshiba CDROMs                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I really need a drive, do these have software and are they SCSI?

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2714
  To: RENE LINDNER                             Date: 07/30/93  8:15p
Subj: CDROM                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Pckwik will do the job.. Caches hard and CD-ROM drives!

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2715
  To: GLENN JONES                              Date: 07/30/93  8:44p
Subj: CD Rom Help                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well, if you want to stay with MPC for games and most programs.
500ms speed or faster, 150kb/sec or faster and SCSI interface. (not
needed but helps performance)

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2716
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 07/31/93  1:12p
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Up All Night is a new shareware CD that Bob Hall published.  It is a general
mix of shareware spanning a few years.  It also has all the 1990 messages from
the CD echo.

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 2717
  To: LEN BUSSEY                               Date: 07/22/93 11:28p
Subj: Cd Swap                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LB>I have the following CD's I'd like to swap for shareware CDs and/or
LB>adult CD's.

LB>Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
LB>The Secret of Monkey Island
LB>Loom

LB>Call me at 615-659-9216 voice or
LB>           615-659-6470 FIDO node 3622/10 or 2010 BBS

LB>--- RBBSMAIL 17.1C
LB> * Origin: 2010 BBS - Petersburg TN (615) 659-6470 (RBBS-PC 1:3622/10.0)
I'll trade ya either Nautilus NET CD or Starvector 208
                Let me know what else you are looking for.  Does Secret
                of Monkey Island require a fast Cd rom? Does it have
                Soundblaster sound!
                                Sam Figueroa


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 2718
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/22/93 11:33p
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC>CD Winbox.....28.50 * Software Vault 2....23.95 * Global Explorer..93.50
DC>Games 1993....24.50 * Shareware Studio 2..23.95 * Bible Library....28.95
DC>Windows 1993..27.50 * Up All Night........19.95 * NG/SD Mammals....26.50
DC>Mayo Clinic...28.50 * Aminet (Amiga)......16.95 * Busty Babes......29.95
DC>Nightowl v9...28.95 * Reference Library...26.95 * Ecstasy..........29.95
DC>Nightowl v8...26.95 * Readers Library.....28.95 * Nix Pix 2/3/4/5..29.95
DC>Pier 1........27.95 * Clip Art Galore..28.95  We sell Hundreds of Titles
DC>All Chestnut Titles (15 CDS)...13.50 * Many Walnut Creek Titles...16.95
DC>PCJ - Orders - 800-547-7817 *-* Orders\Inquiry - 615-339-0235 (24 Hrs)
DC>Fax 615-479-1047 *-* BBS 615-478-2890 *-* No surcharge for credit cards

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Doug,
        What is on the "Up All Night" cd, is it adult or what?
                                Thanks,
                                        Sam Figueroa


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 2719
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/28/93 12:03a
Subj: CD-ROM TRADE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

IG>I have the following CD-ROM's I would be willing to trade, especialy for
IG>adult CD's.

IG>1.Loom
IG>2.The Secret of Monkey Island
IG>3.Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
IG>4.A Line in the Sand

IG>Israel M. Gomberg
IG>330 Kitty Hawk Rd. #2806
IG>Universal City, TX 78148
IG>(210)945-9672


IG>... I was *this* close to seeing elvis. But my shovel broke.
IG>___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

IG>--- TMail v1.31.5
IG> * Origin: Last Chance TBBS *HST v32b* (210)805-8525 San Antonio,Tx
IG>(1:387/822)
What would you take for either or both cd's especially Monkey Island???
I have a Nautilus CD I would trade for it, it has multimedia, and other
Windows stuff on it!  Do the cd's have manuals?
                        Sam Figueroa
                        Sam's Software
                        (615) 728-7383


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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 2720
  To: JACKIE ROGERS                            Date: 07/30/93  9:15p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Jackie Rogers to J.p. Ladner <=-

 JR> The Mitsumi is a low-cost drive, and can be found brand-new 
 JR> for as low as $175 
 JR> if you shop around.  The going rate appears to be about $190.  I
 JR> personally  don't recommend the drive, as whenever there's a disc
 JR> returned to me as  defective, it works fine in our office.  I call the
 JR> customer to inquire about  the type of drive they're using, and they
 JR> ALWAYS say, "Mitsumi."  Seems the  Mitsumi has a problem reading many
 JR> of the discs out there on the market.  HOWEVER, industry sources have
 JR> indicated that Mitsumi has  found a problem with 
 JR> their controller card, and have corrected it.

I picked up on a similar thread the other day, and since I'm having a
problem reading the Shareware Studio Vols 1&2 I called the dealer where
I got my Mitsumi.  He informed me that this is BS(I think he is waffling).  

So now I'm real confused.  

Where and how do I get more info?  Is Mitsumi going to give
an upgrade to owners of their drives?  My unit is still under warranty, so
I would think that Mitsumi would owe me a correction.

                                           Ron


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From: CARLOS AVELLANET                       Number: 2721
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/29/93  9:23p
Subj: Re: BUY 3 GET POWERPAK FR               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

 MS> Get the three newest and hottest adult CD's on the market for the
 MS> super low price of only $89, and receive a PowerPak Gold 3.0 shareware
 MS> CD absolutely free!  This offer is for a limited time only, so hurry!

     Which is this PPG 3.0?  I have the fall 1992 edition, Is the 3.0 
     newer than that?

Carlos.

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From: KEVIN WAKEFIELD                        Number: 2722
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/12/93  4:20p
Subj: New adult cd                            Refer: NONE
Read: 08/02/93  6:51a                       Private: No 

On 07-10-93 Tim Helton said to Bob Jackson:

TH>->  WH> > KW>            ***   WILD WOMEN Volume 1    ***
TH>-> You've got the wrong guy! This disc is being published out of 
TH>-> Australia. I sent the note to them asking about street prices.  So 
TH>-> far, I haven't heard back.
TH>
TH>Actually, this disc is coming out of Atlanta... Kevin Wakefield is the
TH>publisher and I have the worldwide exclusive distribution rights to
TH>tim


   Didn't you know that we now have offices in Sydney and Melbourne? <g>

   Good'ay mate.....


           <<<  kevin  >>>


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From: JOHNG FISHER                           Number: 2723
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/15/93  6:00p
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>I'm interested in this drive but I'm leary of a 150ms drive and
JL>software for only $200 ???

works even on 7th guest--has stereo output to headphone jack in front.  it's
entirely worth it....

===
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 2724
  To: MIKE MAST                                Date: 07/31/93  9:33p
Subj: CD File Descriptions                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MM> Terry, thanks for writing that for me!  There are a 
 MM> couple small things that maybe you could modify...?
 MM>  
 MM> The program truncates filenames to 8.2 instead of 8.3 characters.
 MM> This only happens when the first part of the filename 
 MM> is the maximum of 8 charaters.  If the name is 7 or 
 MM> less, it'll write the full 3 character extentsion.

Sorry... I noticed that yesterday and fixed it.    You can freq the fixed
version from me at 3625/441  under the magic name "Maxcdset"


 MM> While I'm giving you my wish list <G>, could you add 
 MM> an option to truncate the finished line to a user 
 MM> definable number of characters?  Something like:

 I have found out that if the line exceeds about 240 chars then
 Maximus will show the rest of the line on a second line with
 "Offline" written before that part of the description.  I am
 currently setting it to read the first 5 lines of the extended
 description.  That seems to work out best with the least amount
 of work.


 MM> It'd be nice to be able to truncate the lines to 
 MM> whatever length a certain program requires.


I can whip up a utility... In fact I already have one somewhere that will read
EVERY file in a directory and whack off anything past a certain column.  If the
current version you freq does not satisfy then let me know...

BTW  I'll have more cases in a couple days... I'll send you 2 unless you let me
know you don't want them.


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2725
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/30/93  2:48p
Subj: Re: Night Owls 9                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 26 Jul 93  23:28:00, I heard Jim Lambert shout to J.P. Ladner:

JL> JL>Can anybody match a legitamate ad for night owls 9 of $29 ??  If so 
JL>   >please tell me the soonest you could send it to me in VA...I had ordered
JL>   >one about 14 days ago and it still hasn't arrived so I called and 
JL>   >cancled the damn thing...I need it as fast as possible... 


     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!


             
               Call Free Spirit And ask for Barney!
                      ******************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.
        

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2726
  To: JOHN CARROLL                             Date: 07/30/93  1:04a
Subj: This Weeks CDROM Specials               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JC>and to stay on topic....can you suggest a good CD of Windows Shareware, set
u
JC>for RA bbs software? Something current?   Thanks!

If you want the BEST Windows shareware CD available, try CD Winbox.  Just
released, with a full 650mb of mostly '93 files.  In stock at $27 if you
are interested.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2727
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 07/30/93  1:04a
Subj: Fax                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DD>On several occasions I have tried sending a fax to a vendor, only to get a
DD>series of unrecognizable handshaking tones. I then usually call voice, and
am
DD>told "Try again, once I reconfigure the faxmodem" or "Try again, but press
yo
DD>SEND button before my faxmodem answers", or "I only receive faxes from 8am
to
DD>6pm", or "Oh, I don't accept faxes, I use the faxmodem to only send catalogs
DD>out", or "It's for my suppliers' use only".

Then you haven't called Starvector!  We use a good ol' iron horse Murata
desktop model.  She's standing by 24 hours a day, waiting for your call!
Give us a try @ 509-457-2966 any time.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2728
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  1:04a
Subj: CD'S ON SALE!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

___________________________________________________________________________

                   STARVECTOR CD-ROM BLOWOUT SPECIALS!
___________________________________________________________________________

      - These are special prices, and are for a limited time only.
      - Sale limited to stock on hand, so hurry!

                              GENERAL TITLES
                              --------------
Bibles & Religion...$10   Colossal Cookbook...$10   Our Solar System....$10
Shareware Overload..$10   Windows 93..........$21   SoundWAV............$24
Deathstar Arcade....$10   Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15   House of Games......$20
Ham Radio 3.0.......$10   Sound Sensations....$10   Windoware...........$10
Complete Bookshop...$10   Technotools.........$10   Too Many Typefonts..$10
Compton's Interact..$95   Clipart Goliath.....$10   Dictionaries/Lang...$10

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2729
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  1:04a
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 300+
CD-ROM titles that we stock, please feel free to call our new BBS at
509-457-0206.  The system is using a U.S.R. Sportster V.32bis, so you
should have no problem logging on at any speed between 300bps and
14,400bps.

>>>>    All callers may download our catalog on the first call!    <<<<

Once in, you can go the the <F>ile section from the main menu and
download "STARCAT.ZIP".  This contains our latest prices, newest titles,
and CD descriptions.

While online, you may want to download one or more of the CD-ROM file
listings that are available.

The Starvector BBS is online, and waiting to serve you!  Look for
continuous updates and improvements in the near future, with more CD
file listings, new online doors, and more!

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2730
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/30/93  9:09a
Subj: WHOLESALING & RETAILING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi there,  do you have Space Quest 4/Kings Quest for abouut 35.00?

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2731
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/30/93  9:21a
Subj: THE MONSTER IS BACK!  2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi there,

    You advertised:
SPACE QUEST 4 = 25.00
KINGS QUEST 5 = 25.00

It says at top that you can beet any Advertised Price...  I found a deal that
lets these two games come together for about $35...  Can you beat that... Here
I'll give you the guys name and Number....

He is:
Doug Carpenter and his BBS number is (615)-479-1047...

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2732
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/30/93  9:26a
Subj: Space Quest 4/Kings Quest               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi there Doug,
    I would like to know how you would like to be paid if Mike Shannon can not
beat your prices for Space quest 4/Kings Quest...  So please tell me if you
would like a money order and the totall cost CANADIAN would be..  (APROXX)...


Well get back to you in a few days.

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From: DON HANCOCK                            Number: 2733
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/25/93  7:25a
Subj: Red Hot Cd'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

BO> ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec

    Hi Boris. I'm looking for virtually any programming CD's and this looks
    like about the most I'd pay. However, I don't know ANY of the available
    CD's. I got Source CD-ROM Mar'92 with my CD, but it stinks. I'm
    particularly interested in C, C++, Clipper and dBASE files. My
    father-in-law is interested in Pascal. What kind of files (and their
    numbers) are on this and other disks? Looking to add 3 or 4 more to my
    collection. Thanx for any info....

 * SLMR 2.1a * If it jams, force it. If it breaks, it needed replacing a

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2734
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93  1:59a
Subj: MIX or MATCH                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Canadian Shareware      Ultimate Shareware
Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
PC-SIG Games              LaserTax On CD          Phoenix # 3
Jokes&Pranks              Learning Adventure      Business Assistant
World Travler             Sound Sensation         DeathStar Arcade
Colossal CookBook         ClipArt Goliath         Technotools
Our Solar System          Bible & Religion

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

***********************************************************************



Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2735
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93  1:59a
Subj: CD SYSTEMS                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 2736
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  3:49p
Subj: NEW Corel ArtShow 3 CD &                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Latest Corel ArtShow 3 
     
     CD with beautifully printed coffee table book
          
          ArtShow 3 Program (does not need CorelDraw to run) is run from 
          Windows and allows searching  & viewing of all 3000 images 
          accompanied by on-line MIDI music
          
          3000 images in CorelDRAW .CDR format (editable in CorelDraw)
          
          Corel CD-Audio Program- allows you to play your MUSIC CDs in
          your CD-ROM drive.

          Corel ARTVIEW Screen Saver for Windows 3.1

          >> Still Sealed-- BRAND NEW <<

          $25 + UPS

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/52              Number: 2737
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/30/93  6:00p
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hi, michael.  the drives rod and i ordered arrived just fine yesterday, but you
sent me an external terminator and i needed an internal one.  that drive i got
from you is going inside my computer (remember the internal cable you made for
me?)  anyway, there is not a terminator to be found anywhere in fresno or by
mail order from anyone i could contact thru computer shopper. 

the terminator you sent wound up on rod's drive, so it wasnt a total waste -
he's up and running and happy as a clam.

\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2

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From: LARISSA KOHLER                         Number: 2738
  To: CRAIG CURRY                              Date: 07/29/93  7:54p
Subj: Re: Walnut Creek Games CD               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**** CRAIG CURRY just happened to say to LARISSA KOHLER ****

CC> They've been putting off my order too. I am looking forward to
CC> the CD
CC> "if" it ever ships. Reminds me of some hardware venders I know...
CC> I guesse I will keep my order standing, but I'm wondering if I
CC> shouldn't
CC> get another CD in the mean time.

I wouldn't...it looks like as soon as it comes off this new publisher, it'll be
out....which should be soon.  :)  Have you tried either their windows cdrom or
their dos cdrom?  I've got both and they're excellent!
     Larissa

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From: JOSEPH THOMAS                          Number: 2739
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/31/93  8:23a
Subj: Encyclo_CD gone                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks, I will search the world for a copy until I find one. 
I see a Name Boris O. is selling CDS. Will try him.


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 2740
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/31/93 12:40a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> DC> MS>             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <
->
-> DC>Hogwash.
->
-> Hogwash?  Boy, there's a term I haven't heard in a while.  Like I sai
-> Doug, you're certainly welcome to "call my bluff" any time you see fi
-> If it IS "hogwash", then you should have no trouble proving it.  Go a
-> and advertise them for less than $10, and let's see what happens!  8)
->
-> .\\ike
->
-> ---
->  * SLMR 2.1a * I am Clinton of Borg: resistance is taxable!
->
-> --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
->  * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:
->
 YO mike

Do you have the adult cd featuring teri weigel?


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 2741
  To: LOYD CRAFT                               Date: 07/31/93 12:52a
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->                  ****  Four-Star Enterprises  ****
->                        Custom CDROM Service
->
->   Our CDROM Recorder is fired up, and ready to serve you!   We can
->   produce a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive
->   overnight!
->
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->    o Free up Megabytes of expensive magnetic media.
->    o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
->    o Use as a master to transfer data to a pressing facility.
->    o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
->    o Great for:  BBS Files, Document Imaging, Permanent Archival
->                  Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
->    o In MOST cases, 24 hour turnaround is possible.
->    o Free UPS Blue label shipping to the Continental U.S.
->    o COMING SOON!  Compact Disk AUDIO Production!  COMING SOON!
->
-> Pricing for Custom CD production:
->
-> o 527 Meg:  o $1 per megabyte UP TO $139.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST
->             o Minimum charge $85 for less than 85MB.
->             o $50 for each duplicate after paying full price for the
->
-> o 650 Meg:  o $1 per Megabyte UP TO $144.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST
->             o Minimum charge $90 for less than 90MB.
->             o $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the
->
-> o CD Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee.
->
->    Data formats Supported:               Software Supported:
->  ---------------------------           ----------------------- o 60MB
-> DC600/6XXX Streaming Tape.  o Sytos Plus o Mountain Filesafe
->                                    o Everex Tape
->
-> o QIC 40/80  (Colorado Jumbo 250)  o PCTools o Colorado Software
->
-> o Floppy (At additional cost)      o Fastback 3.0 o PCTools
->
-> o Hard Disk
->
-> ** 4mm DAT, and 125/250MB 5.25" Streaming tape will be available SOON
->
-> Terms:
->
->   Prepay for service via Certified check or money order.  Personal
->   checks must clear bank before production begins.  SORRY, we are
->   not able to accept your Visa/Mastercard at this time.
->
-> *** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***
->  For the months of July and August, all orders qualify
->  for a 10% discount from our CURRENT pricing.  Offer
->  ends August 31, 1993.
-> *** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***
->
-> Notice:
->
-> Four Star Enterprises will NOT be a party to the creation of "elite",
-> pirated software collections on CDROM.  Such activity is morally WRON
-> illegal.  If this is your intention, please do not waste my time or y
->
-> For further information, please File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node
-> 1:239/900.0 at V.32bis speeds, or call our voice number.
->
-> Loyd Craft
-> Four Star Enterprises
-> 517-865-6800 Voice (11:00 AM - 6:00PM Monday - Saturday) 517-865-6066
-> Support BBS) 1:239/900.0 (Fidonet)
->
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->
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->  * Origin: Four Star DayDreams - St. Charles, MI (517)865-6066 (1:239
->
 Give me a call at (305)7822631 when you are accepting 5.25 scsi tapes

That's what my favorite .gifs are backed up on 400 megs

Vito


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From: LARRY CHARPIAT                         Number: 2742
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/30/93  1:57a
Subj: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can the Pioneer six disk changers access the six different CD ROM disk
through a BBS menu with a software switch or command?


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2743
  To: DAN HOOD                                 Date: 07/31/93 11:32a
Subj: Re: SCSI CDROM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DH>  > 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.
DH>
DH>  > Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin
DH>  > SCSI,
DH>  >   300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM,
DH>  > Refurb.,
DH>  >   64k buffer.
DH>
DH> Is the above ROM compatible with OS/2 v2.1? Are there drivers
DH> available for it to run under OS/2? If so I'll take it.

I've sold a couple of OS/2 users and haven't heard anything about it not
working.  The drivers came with your OS/2 and your particular SCSI
controller.


*FSED91j*
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2744
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/31/93  7:30a
Subj: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You had posted a list of adult titles for sale and I'd asked for more 
information. You supplied a little more, but not enough for me to make a 
purchase decision. Oddly enough, Goosebump Graphics posted a similar list 
shortly thereafter with somewhat more inclusive descriptions. Bottom  line:
I'll probably wait and work through the titles I'm interested in  with Mike
Shannon one or two at a time over then next several weeks. 
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2745
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/31/93  8:49a
Subj: cd's shipping to canada??               Refer: NONE
Read: 08/02/93  6:54a                       Private: No 

 TH> country.  Me thinks that it's not ANY government's responsibilit  
 TH> force-feed morality, thru censorship, on its citizens.  But then  
                                                                       
  
How do you feel about FidoNet moderators?  Apparently the CD-ROM 
Information echo will no longer allow even mention of the subject of 
adult CDs. Do you plan a similar change for this echo? 
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 2746
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  9:09p
Subj: Netware PD/ShrWare CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its Netware CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
801 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 2747
  To: KEVIN MARTIN                             Date: 07/28/93  7:54a
Subj: SLOW PUS                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Kevin; The Disk arrived list night, Thank-you. Oh by the way It was the 1987
Version #1 not the 1991.
Clint

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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2748
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 07/31/93 10:07p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed it.
 >Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
RD>I just sold all my adult Cd's, but how about $36 shipped, cash money.

Sorry, I have already traded it.

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 2749
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93 10:53p
Subj: Storm II sale or trade...               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi,    I offered Storm II for trade a month ago, and had some replies.
However,  I was victum of a hard drive failure and was off-line for a
few weeks.  I apoligize to anyone who did not receive a reply from me.
So...  I am offering this again.  I will sell or trade this CD.
        Thanks,    Shane
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 þ SLMR 2.1a þ 

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From: CHUCK BRIDWELL                         Number: 2750
  To: DAVID PETERSON                           Date: 07/26/93  5:44p
Subj: PHONE NUMBERS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Whoops! Let's check those phone numbers one more time:

Line 1: 357-2473 - USR Dual Standard HST/V.32bis
Line 2: 581-1335 - Practical Peripherals PM14400FXSA V.32bis
Line 3: 353-5999 - Practical Peripherals PM14400FXSA V.32bis

Sorry about the wrong exchange for Line 1 in the previous message.


     Chuck





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From: TED KIDD                               Number: 2751
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/31/93  1:25a
Subj: NEW CD'S IN STOCK!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS> Radio.......$19Aminet Amiga 1993...$15   Bible Library 1.1...$28   

Is the Aminet Amiga 1993 disc BBS compatible?
And, do you carry a Macintosh disc that is IBM BBS compatible other than
OtherWare????  Please give the name, price, and date if you do...
Thanks
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 2752
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/30/93 10:40p
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ> DP> There was a bug in the original version.  You can freq the "fix" 
BJ>DP> from us as 
 
 
BJ>Dave: 
 
BJ>I'd left you a copule of messages on your BBS regarding an add'l problem 
BJ>with WINBox: Trying to view .TXT files from within a ZIPped file causes 
BJ>the viewer to instantly minimize without displaying the file. Any ideas 
 
BJ>what's causing this? I've logged back in a couple of times but didn't 
BJ>see any messages to me. 
BJ>--- FreeMail 1.07b 
BJ>* Origin: The Bit Bucket * Houston, Tx * 713/496-9670 * (1:106/9670) 
 
That bug too has been "fixed."  The new version of the GUI will appear when we 
re-press the CD WinBox next week.  Sorry for all the troubles, this is the best

example of the downside to CD-ROM's!  <G> 
 
Later, 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
The CD PowerBox Guys! 
 
 
 * OLX 2.1 TD * The NEGOTIATOR has SPOKEN! (510)830-5043 1:161/205 
- JetMail v1.12 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 2753
  To: DON KULHA                                Date: 07/30/93 10:41p
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DK> DP> There was a bug in the original version.  You can freq 
DK>DP> the "fix" file from us as 
DK>DP> "WBOXFIX.ZIP" at 1:161/205.  Sorry for the problems - 
DK>DP> the disk isn't exactly 
DK>DP> worthless w/o the front end, wouldn't you agree?  :> 
 
DK>   I noticed that fix file on your board. Unfortunatly I had called looking 
DK>for alternative FILES.BBS files in a format for Maximus/Opus. On the inside 
DK>cover it says " Damar Enterprises provides their FILES.BBS listings in many 
DK>specific BBS formats. Please call our 24 hour/day BBS for a complete
selectio 
DK>of FREE downloads to support the CD Winbox". I called looking for them to no

DK>avail....where can I get them? 
DK>   DCK 
 
 
I need you to send me the file format for a Maximus BBS and I'll be more than 
happy to convert the FILES.BBS and send them to you.  As long as they are not
in 
a "database format" - like WWIV, we can help you out... 
 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
The CD PowerBox Guys! 
 
 
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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 2754
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/31/93 11:00a
Subj: Busty babes, before 3                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>Boris:

BJ>Are you saying that you still stock the *ORIGINAL*  Rel 1.0 BB? If you
BJ>have any of THEM at $29, I'd be interested in hearing about it.

BJ> * Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas

Things must sure be tough, out there in the boondocks like that. :-) I went to
a small hamfest in tiny Ashtabula, OH last weekend, at which there were two CD
dealers.  Each of them had several copies still of BB1, 1st version. I didn't
price them, but would suspect that $29 was either at or just OVER what the sale
price would be.  Even NO9 was available at each dealer for $29, and other discs
were likewise reasonable in cost.

Get thee to a hamfest!  73, de K8YUW

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * Remembering all my buddies on The Wall.


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2755
  To: DICK HUDDLESTON                          Date: 08/01/93  1:59a
Subj: Re: Address                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Boris, I would like to order some CD ROM disks, and send a
>>    money order instead of using a credit card.  Would you please
>>    indicate the correct address to send the order to?  

You can mail your order to the following:

        Consumer's Club International
        3092 Holly Dr
        Brunswick, Ohio 44212
        Voice: 216-225-3263
        Fax:   216-225-6759
        BBS:   216-2255-6130
        Fido # 1:157/46


GENERAL NOTICE TO ALL USERS !!!!!

>>    Also, would you advise the price of the BB version 1 you have?
>>    I would like to have one, but not sure I can afford it.

As many of you already know, "Busty Babes 1 vol 1" was a limited press
and was on the market for a very short time before Lee had to pull it
off the market due to legal problem on the cd. The actual number press,
I'am told, was 3,000 copy's, of which I think we sold nearly 1,000
ourselves....grin...

Recently, we were luck enough to purchase 50 copies of the orignal versions
and began marketing the remain few we had. The going rate had been $80. per
cd until our stock dropped to the last 5 cd's on hand. At which point, we
decided to hold onto the remaining unit's . But the phone calls kept coming
and user after user kept asking us to sell the remaining units. So, we
decided we would market the last 3 units to the highest bidder. The first
serious buyer purchased one unit for $150.00 the next buyer to call, knowing
that we had only 2 units left offred us $250.00, which we accepted. We are
now down to the last remain unit and have several customers offering us
$300.00 for the original.

Sound crazy ??? Yes it is, when you think of it !! The disk sold for $45. -
$65 in 1992, but it's value has increased as time went on. Unlike any CD
we've ever sold, "Busty Babes I" is the ONLY CD I know of that has going
the other way in value.

So, to those who are lucky enough to have BB v1.0 with the BamBam Logo on
it, your sitting on a gold mine. It's value will increase even more after
Lee goes to BBS Con and the full story is told.

As to what we did with the last version we have on hand, well...due we
hear $400. ???

Oh yes, there's version 1.0 dated 1992, then there's the remake
version 1 vol 2 dated 1993 and then there's the current version "Busty
Babes III". Yes, we do have all three copies on hand.

BOB !! I know you posted a new rule regarding adult material, but I think
this bit of cd history was important enough that you'd understand.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress....... Not Just Another Off-Line Mail System <tm>!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2756
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 08/01/93  1:59a
Subj: Re: WHILE THEY LAST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    In a message of <26 Jul 93  02:14:07>, Boris Osadciw
>>    (1:157/46) writes:

 >>********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************
 >>
 >>Learning Adventure
 >>Business Assistant
 >>Colossal CookBook
 >>Technotools
>>    I might be interested in these, please tell me a little about
>>    Learning adventure, business assistant, and Technotools. Or if
>>    you are willing to stand behind them as being well worth the
>>    money just ship them and 4 caddies to me.

Let's put it this way. Thier NEW NEVER OPENED copies and for $10.00
there worth more than any book you'd find in a story.

To say you'd be over excited about thier contance, would be very
hard to do as one person would say thier worth much more than this and
another would say thier not worth a plug nickel.

As to my view point, they sure are worth the $10. Since there's not
much out there in that price range.

Interested, give us a call and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2757
  To: DREW IANNUZZI                            Date: 08/01/93  1:59a
Subj: Re: Peer2                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    In need of PEER 2 Cd-ROM Disk.


Have them in stock for $25. !!

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy
to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2758
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 08/01/93  1:59a
Subj: Re: Wanted: Storm 2                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I'm interested in buying Storm 2.  It sells new in this
>>    conference for $28, so I'll pay up to $20 delivered for a used
>>    one.  Please reply here or in netmail. Thanks.

>>    I'm also interested in a used copy of Nightowl 9, but that
>>    seems pretty unlikely.  <grin>

How about $25. for a Unused copy ??? Or better yet, Storm 1, 2, 3 for
$55. ??

Interested, call us at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to help
you out.

Boris Osadciw

... I married the Mail Lady!
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From: JEFF COCHRAN                           Number: 2759
  To: DON HANCOCK                              Date: 08/01/93  8:02a
Subj: Red Hot Cd'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I got Source CD-ROM Mar'92 with my CD, but it stinks.

Would you be interested in selling or trading it?  (Cheap of course, since it
isn't that much new...)

Jeff


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2760
  To: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529               Date: 08/01/93  9:23a
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

S9> the terminator you sent wound up on rod's drive, so it wasnt a total
S9> waste - he's up and running and happy as a clam.

He just ordered two more.

I'm working on the terminator thing.


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2761
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/01/93  9:24a
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROMs                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HP> I really need a drive, do these have software and are they SCSI?

Yes, they are SCSI, not proprietary.  The software used are your own SCSI
controllers drivers.  This drive doesn't require any special drivers for
operation.

205-837-5053


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From: SAL PEDONE                             Number: 2762
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/01/93  9:51a
Subj: Cd-rom disks forsale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


   I have a few CD's left from my now defunct business:

   All are new unused....

   1 Danger Hot Stuff...Collection of PC Graphic Demos with
     Sound blaster support......$15

   1 Best of the Bureau...has a sample of about 7 disks that
     the Bureau puts out........$15

   1 Great Cities of the World Part I...MPC for Windows...$15

   1 FontMaster CD Font Library.....$12

   2 Sherlock Holmes on Disc by CMC...Complete works of
     the Great Detective......$10

   2 Complete Works of William Shakespeare by CMC.....$10

   Will let all 8 go for $80 plus shipping...If interested leave
   a message here or give me a call at 912-956-5163  6pm-9pm EST


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2763
  To: CARLOS AVELLANET                         Date: 07/31/93 10:42p
Subj: Re: BUY 3 GET POWERPAK FREE!            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Mike Shannon <07-29-93 21:23> Carlos Avellanet wrote:

CA>>      Which is this PPG 3.0?  I have the fall 1992 edition, Is the 3.0
CA>>      newer than that?

No, Darlin'--It's the same one minus the copyrighted GIFS on it--

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2764
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/31/93 10:43p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABE III                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <07-31-93 01:59> Boris Osadciw wrote:

BO>> )))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((

Er, ah....Busty Babes Vol I Release/Revision 3--Don't want any confusion here--

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: JIM REED                               Number: 2765
  To: TERRY MCDILL                             Date: 07/31/93 10:10p
Subj: The 7th Guest and Mitsumi               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TM>I just purchased a Mitusmi CD-Rom and was wondering if this drive would supp
TM>the game "The 7th Guest". The other equipment is able to support the game.

Hi Terry;
        T7G runs just fine on my Mitsumi 350ms Internal.
                                /JIM/

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2766
  To: DREW IANNUZZI                            Date: 07/31/93 11:28a
Subj: Peer2                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> In need of PEER 2 Cd-ROM Disk.

 PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                         PRICE

 PIER2      CDS - The Pier Shareware CD-ROM #2          29.00



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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 2767
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/31/93 11:36a
Subj: Re: Your order                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Patrick Rosenheim to Dick Huddleston <=-

 PR> Dick, I need your phone number........

I just today received the message (Sat 7-31).  My office nr. is
713-831-6844.  I am out most of the time, but you can leave a message
if not personal.  The best place to call is my voice mail 713-347-6948.




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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2768
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 07/31/93 11:09p
Subj: who's crazy?                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LF>fine. Interestingly enough, on "Too Many Typefonts" I found a font that
LF>I myself had ported to the laserjet format and uploaded (somewhere...) a
LF>few years ago. Immortalized in [whatever they make cd's out of]!

Your work will live forever my dear, or at least until all those CD's
decompose.  (Forever minus a couple of hours.  8)

Glad you got your CD's OK.

Take care,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2769
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 07/31/93 11:09p
Subj: Bottom line pricing                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LF> MS> growing customer base.  Because of this, I haven't had a chance to sit
LF> MS> down and update my 2-column "monster" CD price list with all the new
LF> MS> titles we keep getting.  Come to think of it, I haven't had a chance to

LF>But how will we know of all the great new stuff available if you don't
LF>tell us?

Yeah, yeah, OK.  I'll bring it back for ya!  8)

Seriously, the response I've had from folks telling me not to mothball the
"Monster" has really shocked me!  8)

Keep looking . . . you'll see 'em!

Take care,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2770
  To: RICHARD NIXON                            Date: 07/31/93 11:09p
Subj: Wanted!                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN>I am looking for:
RN>Storm 1, 2 or 3. ($20)

Can sell you all three for $60.  Plenty in stock.

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2771
  To: DREW IANNUZZI                            Date: 07/31/93 11:09p
Subj: Peer2                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DI>In need of PEER 2 Cd-ROM Disk.

Drew,

In stock and shipping at $35.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2772
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 07/31/93 11:09p
Subj: DOUG'S PRICES                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DS>    You advertised:
DS>SPACE QUEST 4 = 25.00
DS>KINGS QUEST 5 = 25.00

DS>It says at top that you can beet any Advertised Price...  I found a deal
that
DS>lets these two games come together for about $35...  Can you beat that...
Her
DS>I'll give you the guys name and Number....
DS>He is:
DS>Doug Carpenter and his BBS number is (615)-479-1047...

Darren,

Doug's current advertised prices for these on the net are $23.95, and
$24.95, for a total of $48.90.  I've seen no ad for $35, but I may have
missed it so I'll take your word for it.  Your cost: $35 - 5% = $33.25
+ s/h.  Plenty in stock . . . call with your plastic in hand if you
would like a set!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2773
  To: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                        Date: 07/31/93 11:09p
Subj: ADULT CD'S                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JG>I am looking for anyone who is willing to sell their adult CD's--such as
JG>Sexcapades The Movie, Hot Pix...or anything similar.  I prefer movies over
JG>gifs.

Jerry,

We have several of the new movie CD's in stock, including Sexxcapades,
which is *fair* quality.  Stay away from My First Time if you have
a local bus system.  The best movie CD's we stock are:  Seedy-ROM
Movie Disc @ $45, Nightwatch Interactive @ $49, Adventures of Seymore
Butts @ $49, and Dirty Talk @ $59.  After Dark Trilogy is also good at
$45.  SexxCapades is $49, but only fair picture quality IMO.

All are in stock as of 7/31.  Let me know if you're interested in any
of them!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2774
  To: JOHN CARROLL                             Date: 07/31/93 11:09p
Subj: This Weeks CDROM Specials               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC> JC> and to stay on topic....can you suggest a good CD
DC> JC> of Windows Shareware, set up for RA bbs software?
DC> JC> Something current?   Thanks!

John,

CD Winbox is your best bet.  We have them at $25 in stock.  PCB style
FILES.BBS in each directory, but Damar has several file formats available
on their BBS that you can download.

Call any time if interested.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2775
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93 11:09p
Subj: BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

***************************************************************************
            NEW ADULT CD'S AVAILABLE FROM STARVECTOR . . . .
***************************************************************************

 Busty Babes 3.0...............35.00    After Dark Trilogy (movies)...45.00
 All Beauties..................36.00    Southern Beauties.............35.00
 Amateur Models................35.00    Dirty Talk (movie)............59.00
 Seymore Butts Interactive.....49.00    Girls of Vivid................45.00

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2776
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93 11:09p
Subj: CD PACKAGE DEALS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                       +-------------------------+
  CHECK                |   SPECIAL BONUS OFFER   |     GET A FULL 650MB
                       +-------------------------+     OF RECENT SHAREWARE
     THIS              |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0    |     FOR
                       |     REVISED EDITION     |          ONLY
        OUT !!         |    SHAREWARE CD ONLY    |
                       |  $4.00  W/ PURCHASE OF  |         4   BUCKS!
           ----------> |    ANY PACKAGE DEAL!    |         ----------
                       +-------------------------+

-------------[ CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS ]------------------------------------

1. Night Owl 7.0     2. Storm 1     3. Southern Beauties     4. Hot Pix 3
   Night Owl 8.0        Storm 2        All Beauties             Hot Pix 4
   Night Owl 9.0        Storm 3        Amateur Models           Hot Pix 5
   -------------        -------        --------------           ---------
   $69                  $69            $95                      $85


       5. Night Owl 8.0     6. Night Owl 9     7. All Beauties
          Night Owl 9.0        Pier 2             Southern Beauties
          -------------        ------             -----------------
          $55                  $59                $65


8. Up All Night            9. Empire Clipart             10. Pier 2
   Super CD 2                 Clipart Heaven                 SW Vault 2
   So Much Shareware 3        Encyclopedia of Clipart        SW Studio 2
   -------------------        -----------------------        -----------
   $63                        $59                            $65


11. CD Winbox      12. House of Games     13. Busty Babes     14. Storm 2
    Windows 93         Game Arena             Ecstasy             Storm 3
    ----------         ----------             -------             -------
    $44                $35                    $55                 $49


15. Fantazia Fonts         16. Porkware 1       17. Compton's Interactive
    Fontmaster 2               Porkware 2           U.S. Atlas MPC
    Too Many Typefonts         All Beauties         Learning Adventure
    ------------------         ------------         ------------------
    $49                        $89                  $129


PLUS, AN ADDED BONUS . . . . .

               WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 2777
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/01/93  1:14p
Subj: Toshiba CDROMs                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   This may be deemed by the moderator to be off topic, but I wasn't
sure how to do it another way. I used to live in Tacoma, as well as
graduate from Puyallup High in 1969. Do you have any users that might
have been in the same years?
   If so, please have them send me some mail in another (to please the
moderator) echo.  I think the address of this one will show up in the
message. If not, it is SWIPCC Clubhouse in El Paso , Texas. Thanks!


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From: JOHN ANDERSON                          Number: 2778
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/29/93 10:41p
Subj: Re: The 7Th Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>.. Clinton will tax wealthy Americans. Congratulations! You're rich!
>
>I might have been interested, but I don't do buisness with 
>people who show the distaste of forwarding their 
>unsolicited political views.

Speak For Yourself.  I will try, at all possible chances, to send all of my 
further CD-ROM orders to Mike since he was exercising his "distaste" by 
taking advantage of his 1st amendment rights....
    
John
    

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From: JACK HUDDLE                            Number: 2779
  To: BOB ROSOL                                Date: 08/01/93 12:03p
Subj: NEW Corel ArtShow 3 CD &                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bob Rosol was quoted to all

    BR>Latest Corel ArtShow 3

BR>     CD with beautifully printed coffee table book

BR>          ArtShow 3 Program (does not need CorelDraw to run) is run from
BR>          Windows and allows searching  & viewing of all 3000 images
BR>          accompanied by on-line MIDI music

BR>          3000 images in CorelDRAW .CDR format (editable in CorelDraw)

BR>          Corel CD-Audio Program- allows you to play your MUSIC CDs in
BR>          your CD-ROM drive.

BR>          Corel ARTVIEW Screen Saver for Windows 3.1

BR>          >> Still Sealed-- BRAND NEW <<

BR>          $25 + UPS

Bob I will take this if it is still avail please send to:
Jack Huddle
8440 Blacklick Eastern Road
Pickerington, Ohio 43147
Any problems? I can be reached at (614) 837-0303...thks Jack

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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 2780
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/01/93 11:32a
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Bob Jackson <07-01-93 20:29> Lee Noga wrote:

LN>  I got one with your name on it ! She is about 35% different and is
LN>  minus the filmstars, models, and amateur directories--But we added
LN>  some other directories to fill the voids.......about 95% of the
LN>  T.I.T.S. BBS logo infringements were replaced with the originals or
LN>  just removed off the disc--

Lee what about all the remaining images on Busty Babes the entire disc is a
total copyright violation not one images on that disc do you have licensing
rights to so there for the disc is still in violation of copyright and any
distributor that sells it has the possibility of getting nailed for sell and
distribution of copyrighted material...What do you have to say Ms. Lee Noga  
 
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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 2781
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/01/93 11:47a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Jason Taynor <07-15-93 19:14> Lee Noga wrote:

LN>  NO models, no filmstars, and a real decreased probability that the
LN>  disc contains playboy/penthouse on it,--Removed alot of the amateurs,
LN>  and reduced the disc from 670 MB to 520 MB. Alot safer for sysops
LN>  now--Plus 3.0 has a new interface called, "ShowOff"--Look at 16

**********  NOTICE TO ALL SYSOPS and DISTRIBUTORS **********

Even though the playboy/penthouse scans have been removed and other images as
well the disc is still in total copyright violation reason being is that
someone owns the copyrights to the images on this disc weather it be a model
herself, a photography, or a magazine, so I would not want to take a chance of
putting that disc or any other adult CD-Rom disc on a BBS a sysop could
possibily get nailed for distribution of copyrighted material and anyone
selling this disc or any other adult disc that is not copyrighted and licensed
takes a BIG chance of get prosecuted for sale and distribution of copyrighted
material so ***** B E W A R E ***** sysops and distributors.  
 
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From: RON RICHMOND                           Number: 2782
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/01/93 12:34a
Subj: Disk                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Boris, Did you recieve my order on Sat. July 30 for Busty Babes 1.? I left
it on your electronic order desk. Thanks,      Ron.


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From: CHRIS MORGAN                           Number: 2783
  To: MARK STEIGER                             Date: 08/01/93 12:43a
Subj: interface card                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS >Hello Chris!

MS >24 Jul 93, Chris Morgan writes to Mark Steiger:

MS > CM> Well, I don't own one but the Sound Blaster 16 has one on it.

MS >What are you talking about?  Could you please quote alittle
MS >from my original message?

MS >Thanks

MS >Mark

MS >--- GoldED 2.40
MS > * Origin:  The Spare Computer 612-824-1209/6302 (1:282/62)
I  think you wanted to know about a sound card that has a on-board CD-Rom
interface.  And the Sound Blaster 16 has one.
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From: CHRIS WISE                             Number: 2784
  To: TERRY MCDILL                             Date: 07/31/93  7:43p
Subj: The 7th guest and mitsumi               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          Terry McDill wrote
----------------------------------------
>>I just purchased a Mitusmi CD-Rom and was wondering if this drive would
>>support
>>the game "The 7th Guest". The other equipment is able to support the game.
>>
----------------------------------------

Depends on which one you have, if you have an older one 600ms acccess time then
it will not.  If you have a newere one then yes, and if you are running it with
a soundblaster pro, then you will need to get the update for it. I think it is
called T7G_124.exe. This will do away with the sound buffer overflow error.
Hope this helps you out.

Lee Christopher Wise
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From: CHRIS WISE                             Number: 2785
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/01/93 11:16a
Subj: Fax                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          Mike Shannon wrote
----------------------------------------
>>Then you haven't called Starvector!  We use a good ol' iron horse Murata
>>desktop model.  She's standing by 24 hours a day, waiting for your call!
>>Give us a try @ 509-457-2966 any time.
----------------------------------------

   Mike,

    I used it and it worked.  I want to thank you for your prompt assistance (I
got it about 3 days after I ordered it or so).  For anyone out there thinking
on using their services I would recommend them, and will definitely use them
again..

Lee Christopher Wise
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From: DON HANCOCK                            Number: 2786
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/30/93  7:30a
Subj: Red Hot Summer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

BO> ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec

    Boris, MORE info!! Date? Size? Menu system? Languages supported? Source
    code? Or just utilities?
        I'm VERY interested in any programming CD's. Expecially xBase and
        C/C++.

 * SLMR 2.1a * I just bought a decaffeinated coffee table. Can't ya tell

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2787
  To: SHAWN MAY                                Date: 08/01/93  8:04p
Subj: The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encycl  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to All, Shawn May said:
SM->    Anyone interested in "The software toolworks Multimedia
SM->Encyclopedia,
SM->comes with a little manual, lookif for 40$ OBO..

How about $35.00

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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 2788
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93  6:08a
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                  ****  Digital Enterprises  ****
                       Custom CDROM Service

  Our CDROM Recorder is fired up, and ready to serve you!   We can
  produce a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive
  overnight!

   o Complete confidentiality assured.  Your data will NOT be pilfered.
   o Free up Megabytes of expensive magnetic media.
   o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
   o Use as a master to transfer data to a pressing facility.
   o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
   o Great for:  BBS Files, Document Imaging, Permanent Archival
                 Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
   o In MOST cases, 24 hour turnaround is possible.
   o Free UPS Blue label shipping to the Continental U.S.
   o COMING SOON!  Compact Disk AUDIO Production!  COMING SOON!

Pricing for Custom CD production:

o 527 Meg:  o $1 per megabyte UP TO $139.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 139MB
            o Minimum charge $85 for less than 85MB.
            o $50 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o 650 Meg:  o $1 per Megabyte UP TO $144.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 144MB
            o Minimum charge $90 for less than 90MB.
            o $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o CD Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee.

o UPS RED Label shipping is $15 extra.


   Data formats Supported:               Software Supported:
 ---------------------------           ----------------------- o 60MB
DC600/6XXX Streaming Tape.  o Sytos Plus o Mountain Filesafe
                                   o Everex Tape

o QIC 40/80  (Colorado Jumbo 250)  o PCTools o Colorado Software

o Floppy (At additional cost)      o Fastback 3.0 o PCTools

o Hard Disk

** 4mm DAT, and 125/250MB 5.25" Streaming tape will be available SOON **

Terms:

  Prepay for service via Certified check or money order.  Personal
  checks must clear bank before production begins.  SORRY, we are
  not able to accept your Visa/Mastercard at this time.

*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***
 For the months of July and August, all orders qualify
 for a 10% discount from our CURRENT pricing.  Offer
 ends August 31, 1993.
*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***

Notice:

Digital will NOT be a party to the creation of "elite", or pirated software
collections on CDROM.  Such activity is morally WRONG and illegal.  If this is
your intention, please do not waste my time or yours.

For further information, please File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node
1:239/900.0 at V.32bis speeds, or call our voice number.

Loyd Craft
Digital Enterprises (Name recently changed) 517-865-6800 Voice (11:00 AM -
6:00PM Monday - Saturday) 517-865-6066 (Customer Support BBS) 1:239/900.0
(Fidonet)

===
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From: CHRIS HARRIS                           Number: 2789
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/02/93 12:00a
Subj: StarVector CD Sales                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike, jusr got the CD's I ordered.  Am really pleased with them all, as 
is the wife and children.  Expect to see MORE orders from me in the 
future.

___
X CmpQwk #UNREGX UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY

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From: LEN BUSSEY                             Number: 2790
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 07/31/93  6:37a
Subj: RE:cd Swap                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LB>I have the following CD's I'd like to swap for shareware CDs and/or
LB>Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
LB>The Secret of Monkey Island
LB>Loom
SF>I'll trade ya either Nautilus NET CD or Starvector 208
SF>Let me know what else you are looking for.  Does
SF>Secret of Monkey Island require a fast Cd rom? Does
SF>it have Soundblaster sound!

Looking at the docs for the "Secret of Monkey Island" it doesn't say
anything about having to use a fast CD Rom.  Mine has a 320 ms access
time.  The games does have sound card support.  It pretty much seems to
be automatic.  I just put the CD in and when you load the game it
starts playing thru the sound card.  I don't know what Nautilus or the
Starvector 208 are.  Could you describe them?

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From: LEN BUSSEY                             Number: 2791
  To: JAMES PRICE                              Date: 07/31/93  6:52a
Subj: RE:encylclopedia                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JP>I am interested in purchasing a Multi-Media Encyclopedia, I would
JP>prefer Windows MPC.
JP>I noticed that Compton's has "Interactive", "MM" and "MPC" versions.
JP>What are the differences feature wise between each???

I don't know anything about the "Interactive" version.  The only real
difference in the MM and MPC versions is their user interface.  MM uses
a DOS one and MPC uses Windows.  In my opinion MPC is superior to the
MM version.  Since windows gives you the ability to have an unlimited
number of windows open at once, you can have numerous articles and
media clips open at the same time.  Great for research projects when
you need to flip flop from article to article.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 2792
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93 12:50a
Subj: Hitachi cd rom drives $130              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have about 20 used Hitachi internal cd rom drives available for $130 each. 
Interface cards that will run up to 4 of these drives are $60 and I have 4 bay
external cases for $25 and power
supplies for $25  and external cables for $25. You can also get a $10 discount
on ANY shareware cd rom disc I carry when you
purchase a drive. All my shareware titles are $29.  Call
205-284-2552


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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 2793
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 07/29/93 10:07p
Subj: Tcm newsletter...                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please add me to your mailing list:

Lois Frankel
59 Main Blvd.
Ewing, NJ 08618


... It is helpful to use both legs when standing
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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 2794
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/29/93 10:16p
Subj: The monster is back!  2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Thanks for reinstituting the "monster;" I've saved it to my "CDROMCAT"
 file for reference. I notice that "Front Page News" is not on your
 list, though it was in the catalog you sent with the discs. Is it no
 longer available? I hope you still have/can get it, since we were
 planning to order it at work as soon as the budget approval comes
 through.


... C:\WIN\>del *.* - Doubles your hard disk space instantly!
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From: MIKE MAST                              Number: 2795
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/01/93  8:40a
Subj: CD File Descriptions                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > BTW  I'll have more cases in a couple days... I'll send you 2
 > unless you let me know you don't want them.

I'll pass on those at the moment.  If you're having these custom made and
could have a slightly different design made, I'd be interested in talking
about that.
 
Regards,
Mike
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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2796
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 08/01/93  7:26p
Subj: CD-ROM TRADE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

IG>I have the following CD-ROM's I would be willing to trade, 

IG>1.Loom
IG>2.The Secret of Monkey Island
IG>3.Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
IG>4.A Line in the Sand


SF>What would you take for either or both cd's especially Monkey Island???
SF>I have a Nautilus CD I would trade for it, it has multimedia, and other
SF>Windows stuff on it!  Do the cd's have manuals?
SF>                        Sam Figueroa
SF>                        Sam's Software


Sorry, but I've already traded them

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2797
  To: STEPHEN BURT                             Date: 07/31/93 11:37a
Subj: Want a CD disk                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have House of Games available for $29 plus shipping. 
 
Description:    House of Games 
This disc is filled with the best Board, Adventure, Casino, Education, 
and Text Based games available.  All programs have been thoroughly 
tested by the professionals at Hi-Tech Production, and found to be the 
highest quality shareware available today.  Play hundreds of games 
directly from this CD. 
 
Computer Works       (205) 793-4481 Voice 
CD-Rom Sales!        (205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card Orders 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 2798
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 08/01/93 12:50a
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SF>Doug,
SF>        What is on the "Up All Night" cd, is it adult or what?
SF>                                Thanks,
SF>                                        Sam Figueroa
 
  Hello, Sam!  I hope you won't mind me replying, but the Up All Night 
CD is shareware is supposed to mean the hours SysOps spend downloading 
files. Hope this helps.
 
                                                       Mark
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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 2799
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/01/93  1:05a
Subj: CD-Rom Sales!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Hello, Everyone.  The following is a list of all the Reference CD's 
that Computer Works carries:

Bibles & Religion                     19.00
CIA World Tour                        39.00
Compton's MPC Encyclopedia           159.00
Compton's Encylopedia                 79.00
Dictionaries & Languages              19.00
Family Doctor                         42.00
Grolier Encyclopedia Win 3.1          51.00
Grolier Encyclopedia Dos 5            49.00
Magazine Rack                         34.00
Mayo Clinic MPC                       39.00
National Parks                        39.00
Precision Mapping                     89.00
Reference Library                     34.00
Street Atlas USA                      99.00
Time Table of Science                 31.00
Total Baseball                        59.00
US & World Atlas                      32.00
US History                            34.00
 
 All CD's are shipped 2 Day Priority Mail.  Shipping rates are $4.00
for up to 5 CD's and $0.50 for every CD after the first 5.  If you would
like a COMPLETE list of every CD that Computer Works carries, with a
full description and price, please download the file CATALOG.ZIP.  Thank
you for your time.
 
                       Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! 
                       Online Credit Card Ordering Available! 
                       (205) 671-0092 - BBS 
                       (205) 793-4481 - Voice 
                       SysOp - Jim Lambert  CoSysOp - Mark Clardy
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From: RENE LINDNER                           Number: 2800
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/01/93  4:41p
Subj: CDROM                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

thanks for the info. will try it.
wbr
rb1 
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 2801
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/31/93  5:38p
Subj: CDROM Specials                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  BO> ********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials 
  BO> *********************
  BO> 
  BO> American Premier          Officers Bookcase       Canadian Shareware
  BO> Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler TaxPrep
  BO> '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena Golden Immortal  
  BO> Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room Mother Earth II           Quick
  BO> Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8 Chicano Datebase          PC-SIG Games     
  BO> LaserTax On CD Phoenix # 3               Jokes&Pranks           
  BO> Learning Adventure Business Assistant        World Travler          
  BO> Sound Sensation DeathStar Arcade          Colossal CookBook      
  BO> ClipArt Goliath Technotools               Our Solar System       
  BO> Windoware
  BO> 

Boris, which of these are MAC compatible?...m2

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2802
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 08/02/93 12:07p
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Great! I'm assuming that the new GUI will be D/L-able from your BBS for owners
of the current release (?) .

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2803
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 08/02/93 12:11p
Subj: Busty babes, before 3                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Very interesting, Jerry! I don't frequent hamfests mainly cuz they're always
on the other side of town - and in Houston that can easily be 50 miles away. I
have a copy of the "original" BB, but when I was looking hard for one, many
others said they were interested as well. Maybe the hamfest CD sellers should
get themselves on to this here echo (:>

73, AG5X

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2804
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 08/02/93 12:16p
Subj: cd's shipping to canada??               Refer: NONE
Read: 08/04/93  6:34a                       Private: No 

This is an insightful reply, Tim. Clearly you've given the topic some thought
and I for one very much appreciate that effort instead of the too often
knee-jerk response (not only on FidoNet but also Cserve, etc.). I agree that
specific discussion of the "merits" of any particular part of an adult CD (say
some specific GIF) would be out of scope for the echo. I've tried to keep my
"reviews" on a plane that would be in concert with the guidelines you've
established. Let me know if I stray too far. Cheers!

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 2805
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 08/02/93  8:20a
Subj: CDT = CD'S, TRAVEL                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Pete, I will be at COMDEX this year.  Never missed one since they held them in
Dallas texas.  

BOB


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2806
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93  6:46a
Subj: Toshiba SCSI CDROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00 with caddy.

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00 with caddy.

Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin SCSI,
  300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurbished,
  64k buffer. ** Warranty ** 

205-837-5053 




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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2807
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 07/31/93  6:41p
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

VS>->                  ****  Four-Star Enterprises  ****
VS>->                        Custom CDROM Service

**************100 deleted lines **********

VS> Give me a call at (305)7822631 when you are accepting 5.25 scsi tapes
VS>That's what my favorite .gifs are backed up on 400 megs

Vito,
Please don't quote 100 lines to leave a two line message, especially in
an international echo. It makes me look like my users are neophytes. ;-)


 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * North and south to Key Largo, love for sale..


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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 2808
  To: ZACHARY HAMM                             Date: 08/01/93 12:54a
Subj: DISTRIB. WANTED.                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (29 Jul 93) Zachary Hamm wrote to All...

 ZH> 
 ZH> Does anybody have the name and number for comptuer hardware and
 ZH> hardware
 ZH> distibutors?  I'm currently reselling through Merisel and am getting
 ZH> killed by the competition!
 ZH> 
 ZH> Zack hamm
 ZH> 
 ZH> --- TMail v1.31.5
 ZH>  * Origin: Micro Message Service NCRTP (919)779-6674 TBBS 2.2M

If your are interested, we can set you up as a Reseller. Send
your requests to:

The Storage Specialists
9400 W. 51st Avenue
Arvada CO 80002
Atten: Paul Sedillo

Our specialty is storage devices (Hard Drives, CD-Roms...). We
also specialize in the whole eSoft, TBBS product line if you
need that product as well.

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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 2809
  To: BOB BROCK                                Date: 08/01/93  1:05a
Subj: Wanted Hard Drive(s)                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (29 Jul 93) Bob Brock wrote to All...

 BB> I am looking for a new drive(s) from 680 Meg to 1.2 Gig IDE. drive
 BB> only!
 BB> The most i can get in a 1 or 2 drive pair, shipping included for
 BB> $700.00 NEW!
 BB> Tell me the BEST deal you can make, these will be upgradeing my BBS, i
 BB> am a 
 BB> SysOp and i have posted in SysOp Sales area without responce from
 BB> anyone,
 BB> things that make you go Hmmmmmm. Claims made in that Sub are SysOp's
 BB> get
 BB> better deals but when it comes down to it seems everybody ignores your
 BB> 
 BB> messages... Well lets see if anyone here can meet my needs! I have
 BB> $700.00
 BB> maybe a bit more for a REAL deal NET MAIL ME at 1:273/926 with your
 BB> Qoute's
 BB> I will not jump on the first thing coming in fact i will take no
 BB> longer than 
 BB> the end of August to get any responces before i decide so let's
 BB> DEAL!!!
 BB> I check these messages daily but prefer PRIVATE if you can, it's more
 BB> direct!

Bob: 

The drive that I recomend for that price range is:

-=- Seagate ST4766
-=- 660MB
-=- Full Height
-=- 14ms/SCSI
-=- $800.00

I seriously doubt that you can beat that price for a new
Seagate. If you are inerested contact me at:

The Storage Specialists
303.940.7115
Paul Sedillo

We Accept MasterCard/Visa, plus we will ship COD.
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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 2810
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 07/28/93  1:04p
Subj: ADULT CD-ROMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS> Starting July 24th, you can get an extra bonus: your
MS> copy will be hand-signed by moi, since I'm one of the
MS> Canadian models <g>!      (Yes, I go all the way!)

Oh great, I can see trying to get the disks back across the border into
the US! <g> <sigh>

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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 2811
  To: QUOC DO                                  Date: 08/01/93  3:29p
Subj: Re: New hard drives                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (31 Jul 93) Quoc Do wrote to Leo Zahariadis...

 QD> WD2340 & Maxtor 7345A
 QD> 
 QD> Is the Western Digital really that much faster than the Maxtor?  What
 QD> is the throughput on each drive?

Western Digital from what the trade rags say, is on it's last
leg. As far as the WD2340 being faster than the 7345A, that is
not true.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2812
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 08/02/93  1:56a
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MW>Well, I ordered it from someone at 25.00 but that was more than a week ago,
MW>I prepay with a credit card.. I really don't know what's going on...!!

Well, some dealers claim to have it in stock when they really don't, so
if you can't seem to find one who provides good service ALONG WITH good
prices, give us a try!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2813
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93  1:56a
Subj: BUSTY BABES 3.0 IN STOCK!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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                |                                          |
                |                 $25.00                   |
                |                                          |
                | She's back, she's better, she's . . . .  |
                | BUSTY BABES 3.0!                         |
                |                                          |
                | New interface + new sizzling pictures!   |
                | Get yours now!  Limited time offer with  |
                | limited quantities.    **  H  O  T  **   |
                +------------------------------------------+

 SPECIAL BONUS:  Get the PowerPak Gold 3.0 shareware CD for only $10
                 additional w/ purchase! (Made by Busty's creators)

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2814
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93  1:56a
Subj: ADULT CD'S FOR AUGUST                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 August 1993              ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST         Last update: 8/02
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------

 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    PC-PIX 3......................30.00
 After Dark Trilogy (New!).....45.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 All Beauties (New!)...........36.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Amateur Models (New!).........35.00    Porkware 2 (New!).............37.00
 Animation Fantasies 1 or 2....29.00    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Busty Babes 2.0...............33.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........29.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Erotic Encounters.............36.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........49.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Seymore Butts Interactive.....49.00
 Girls of Vivid (New!).........45.00    Smutware......................32.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................29.00    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................29.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......35.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................29.00    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............29.00    Storm 2.......................28.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00    Storm 3.......................29.00
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Storm 3-Pak...................75.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....45.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Nightwatch Interactive (Wow!).49.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 PC-PIX 1......................30.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 PC-PIX 2......................30.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2815
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93  1:56a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 PACKAGE DEALS               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                       NIGHT OWL VERSION 9 SPECIALS
   *--------------------------------------------------------------------*

     These discs have less than 1% duplication in comparison to previous
     Night Owl CD's, and are EXCLUSIVELY '93 file dates!

     1. Night Owl 9...............................................$33.00

     2. Night Owl 9 with $100+ CD purchase........................$25.00

     3. Night Owl 8 + 9...........................................$55.00

     4. Night Owl 7 + 8 + 9 (less than 1% dupes!).................$69.00

     5. Night Owl 9 + Pier 2......................................$59.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2816
  To: ALL CD-ROM                               Date: 08/01/93 10:36a
Subj: Cd-rom drives & bundles                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600
 Mastercard & Visa accepted. Posted on 08/01/93, @ 10:00.

 PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                         PRICE

 MITSUMICDD CDD - Mitsumi CD-ROM drive                 188.00
 CDR-38     CDD - NEC MiltiSpin 38 portable            354.00
 CDR-74     CDD - NEC MultiSpin 74 external            552.00
 CDR-84     CDD - NEC MultiSpin 84 internal            459.00
 532        CDD - Panasonic 290ms, SCSI-2              362.00
 562        CDD - Panasonic 320ms, double speed        287.00
 522        CDD - Panasonic 380ms/AT bus               211.00
 PHILIPSINT CDD - Philips internal CD-ROM drive        194.00
 CDDDRM600A CDD - Pioneer DRM-600A 6-disk changer      851.00
 CDDDRM604X CDD - Pioneer DRM-604X 6-disk changer     1257.00
 DM3024     CDD - Texel DM3024 internal CD-ROM drive   373.00
 DM5024     CDD - Texel DM5024 CD-ROM drive ext.       467.00
 CDDXM3401B CDD - Toshiba XM3401B internal drive       443.00
 706004701  CDK - Media Vision Fusion Double CD 16     632.00
 3024PAS16  CDK - Texel DM3024 & PAS-16 sound card     542.00
 DM3024BB   CDK - Texel DM3024 int. bus. bundle        647.00
 DM3024MMB2 CDK - Texel DM3024 int. M/M bundle         808.00
 DM3024EB   CDK - Texel DM3024 internal ed. bundle     577.00
 DM3024/CB2 CDK - Texel DM3024 internal home bundle    543.00
 5024PAS16  CDK - Texel DM5024 & PAS-16 sound card     659.00
 5024T348   CDK - Texel DM5024 & T-348 par. SCSI       592.00
 5024T130   CDK - Texel DM5024 Cd-ROM & T-130 SCSI     526.00
 DM5024BB   CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. bus. bundle        727.00
 DM5024EB   CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. ed. bundle         693.00
 DM5024/CB2 CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. home bundle        635.00
 DM5024MMB2 CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. M/M bundle         912.00
 DM3024T130 CDK - Texel int. DM3024 & T130 SCSI        453.00

 Prices & spec's subject to change without notice. Best time to
 call: 7-10 AM & 9-12 PM Mon - Fri, all day Sat & Sun (EASTERN)


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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2817
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/01/93  5:35p
Subj: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Bottom  line: I'll probably wait and work through the titles I'm
-> interested in  with Mike Shannon one or two at a time over then next
-> several weeks.

OIC....

Well, in that case, I'll be awaiting your reviews.....

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 * RM 1.0 B0391 * Please see our complete list in the FOR SALE conferences.


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From: ALLAN KENNEDY                          Number: 2818
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93  4:53p
Subj: WANT TO SWAP                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like to get a faster cd-rom. I have the folowing items to trade.
1. mitsumi cd-rom 800 ms 8 months old w/8bit card & cables
2. generic super vga card w/512 k mem unused
3. generic 2400 internal modem used
4. segate st238r rll hard drive 33 mb unused (no rails)
5. western digital wd1002a-27x rll controller w/cables unused
6. ms doss 5 still in shrink wrap (archie technologies)
7. ms windows 3.1 shrink pack opened disk pack never opened.

I would prefer less than 400 ms must be complete with all cables and card. If
you are interested leave me a message here or net mail me at 1:2602/120

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 2819
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/01/93  1:10p
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Doug,
    How much do you sell it for?  Do you have NightOwl 9 for $25 as for
thats what I really want to buy now?
                             Thanks,
                                  Sam Figueroa
                                  Sam's Software
                                  (615) 728-7383
                Manchester's Best Shareware Distributer!!!

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From: BOB TRUBE                              Number: 2820
  To: QMAIL                                    Date: 08/02/93  6:40p
Subj: DROP                                    Refer: NONE
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From: BOB TRUBE                              Number: 2821
  To: QMAIL                                    Date: 08/02/93  6:40p
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From: ZACH WELBURN                           Number: 2822
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/02/93 10:24p
Subj: CDROM Specials                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hey i am interested in between heaven and hell 2
phoenix #3
shareware studio2 if you still have them let me know 

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From: MIKE JORDAN                            Number: 2823
  To: RICHARD NIXON                            Date: 08/02/93 11:09p
Subj: CD WORLD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > If you are in the market for CDs, you should consider
 > buying from
 > CD WORLD.  I ordered some caddies from them a week ago
 > and, with a week,
 > they arrived.  Excellent service!

 > The address is:

 > CD WORLD
 > 2650 Wedgefield Road
 > Sumter, SC 29154

 > 803-481-2276  BBS: 803-481-7149

 > David, thanks for sending the caddies, I look forward
 > to doing business
 > with you again soon!



  I'll second the great service from David McSpadden of CD-World.  We did some
business about a month ago and I had the two disks I got from him in just a
couple of days. Great Service as well as great prices.  It's good to see other
people are using him with good results as well.


Mike

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 2824
  To: LEN BUSSEY                               Date: 08/03/93 12:29a
Subj: RE:cd Swap                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Len,
    Nautilus CD is a multimedia cd, which must run in Windows and have a
few .AVI's, a version of Mediablitz, a version of Video for Windows and
a few other things like the Time Almanac, and PC Karaoke.  Not all of
these are the full blown things but its pretty good to see the videos!
Starvector 208 is a shareware cd with 208 meg of shareware! Its not all
that bad for a small cd!
                                  Sam Figueroa
                                  Sam's Software
                                  (615) 728-7383
                         Manchester's Best Shareware Distributer!!!
       Do you have anything else to trade!

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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 2825
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93  8:08p
Subj: Southern Beauties                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          **********  Graphical Images of Florida, Inc. **********
             Announces The NEW RELEASE of   "Southern Beauties"
                A FULLY COMMERCIAL - FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC

675 Megs-OVER 65 Top Models-1000 GIFs-1024x768x256 From Original 35mm Slides
300 Megs of the Best Images in 24 bit True Color. Installs Quickly and Easily
- Menu Driven - User Friendly - Popup Help Menus - Mouse Support -
Keyword Search - Sound Blaster Front Loader - Multiple Directory Slide Show
*************** SOUTHERN BEAUTIES MAY NOT BE USED ON ANY BBS ***************

To Order Contact: Faye Sharp at Tradeshows Inc. 317-651-9848 or 317-651-1223  
 
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2826
  To: RON MITCHELL                             Date: 08/01/93 10:29a
Subj: Re: CD's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> the Shareware Studio Vol. 1 and Vol. 2 and my CD won't read them
> except on a hit or miss basis.  Now I'm kind of scared to buy any more
> CDs until I know what's going on. Now for the questions:
Dear Ron,
Due to price cutting war among the some replicating houses, some of the disks
have been shipped out without proper check or warranty. Therefor several of the
existing disks don't meet the ORANGE Book specs. If you have any disk that
doesn't read on your Mitsumi or any other drive, check the disk yet. If your
problem continue, please mail the disks to us and we will get them verified for
you. TTYL
 
GroupWare 

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2827
  To: JAMES PRICE                              Date: 07/31/93  5:26p
Subj: CD-ROM CACHING????                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Is there a program that will Cache my CD-rom and my hard drive also??
Yes, Pckwik will do it. Most software vendors have it, just ask around.

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2828
  To: RON MITCHELL                             Date: 08/01/93  4:23p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Jackie Rogers <07-30-93 21:15> Ron Mitchell wrote:

RM> I picked up on a similar thread the other day, and since I'm having a
RM> problem reading the Shareware Studio Vols 1&2 I called the dealer
RM> where I got my Mitsumi.  He informed me that this is BS(I think he is
RM> waffling).

The Mitsumi's, at such a low price, are a high-volume item for many dealers.
They do not want this information to reach the market, in fear of sales
dropping off.  Your best bet would be to call Mitsumi's technical support
staff directly, and hopefully, they will give you the truth.  My personal
feelings are that Mitsumi will deny the problem exists, while updating their
controller at the same time.

RM> So now I'm real confused.
RM>
RM> Where and how do I get more info?  Is Mitsumi going to give
RM> an upgrade to owners of their drives?  My unit is still under
RM> warranty, so I would think that Mitsumi would owe me a correction.

See above reply... and good luck.

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2829
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 08/01/93  7:15a
Subj: Sound blaster                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Doesn't anyone know the command to turn on the Soundblaster
-> to send a sound source directly through it (such as the CD)
You are referring to the 'mixer'.
The command on mine is mix x (x=on or off)
Example: Mix on
maybe yours is drifferent, can't hurt to try :)

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From: ALEX MAHAN                             Number: 2830
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93  1:41p
Subj: Communications-Games                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Has anybody seen a cd-rom with lots of communication-bbs stuff, along
with games and music? Ill pay up to $30 for one, maybe $40. Also, is
anybody else into SB/VGA demos? I havent been able to find a good cd
with that stuff on. Thanks, ALex


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From: BOB TRUBE                              Number: 2831
  To: QMAIL                                    Date: 08/03/93  2:07a
Subj: DROP                                    Refer: NONE
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From: BOB TRUBE                              Number: 2832
  To: QMAIL                                    Date: 08/03/93  2:07a
Subj: ADD                                     Refer: NONE
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From: BOB TRUBE                              Number: 2833
  To: QMAIL                                    Date: 08/03/93  2:07a
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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 2834
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93  1:14p
Subj: TCM/Night Owl Newsletter.               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*@SUBJECT:TCM/Night Owl Newsletter...                                 N
                       Night Owl Shareware

TCM Computing and Night Owl Publishers, Inc. are currently working on
several joint projects in order to make available the very best in
CD-ROM Shareware.  Based on the rave reviews and comments we have
received about version 9, we are succeeding in that goal.  We have
several new products under development which we are very excited about.

TCM periodically sends out a newsletter to let our customers know about
upcoming releases and other news relating to Night Owl.  We also offer
those receiving the newsletter substantial discounts on Night Owl CDs
(and occasionally on PC hardware).  YOU MUST BE ON OUR MAILING LIST
TO RECEIVE THESE DISCOUNTS.

We will be sending out another newsletter (with some special announcements
and offers) in about a month.  For those of you who have received the
newsletter in the past, and those who have purchased any products from TCM,
you are on our mailing list.

If you are NOT on our mailing list, but would like to get the latest
Night Owl news (along with info on discounts we do not advertise in
the e-mail nets), you may do one of the following:

    - leave a message here with your name & address
    - call our BBS and leave a message to the sysop
    - send us a Fax with your n/a
    - call our voice line (leave the info on our machine if we
      aren't around)
    - Drop us a line via US Mail

TCM has been affliated with Night Owl for more than 3 years now.  We
have been active in the actual preparation of all disks since v3.
If you want the latest news and deals on Night Owl, get on our mailing
list!

         TCM BBS - Official Night Owl Support Board

       Authorized Distributor (call for volume pricing)

TCM Computing                                       (703) 439-8032
Rt. 2 Box 130                                       (703) 439-8237 Fax
Midland, Va.  22728                                 (703) 439-3060 BBS
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From: BRENT CRIGHTON                         Number: 2835
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/01/93  9:55a
Subj: Cd's wanted                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

does anyone know if there has ever been a "chilton's" guide to part, interfaces
and other proprietary stuff for pc's, mini's, and or main frames.

what I would like is a guide, that I could use to identify various computer
parts and know what whey were used for and what they will work with, similar to
a car parts chilton's guide.

BTW has anyone put out a phone list cd for canadian numbers, i heard bell was
going to but cannot track it down

If you can solve my delemma please call voice 2049812294 or fax 204 334 6599

"the only difference between a computer salesman and a car salesman is that
the car salesman KNOWS he's lying"


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From: MIKE ROBINSON                          Number: 2836
  To:                                          Date: 08/02/93 10:55a
Subj: Chestnut cd's...$10! 1/2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* Original From: Mike Shannon (1:348/706)
* Original To  : Dave Kalwishky (1:348/501)

DK>DK>MS>  ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30
with
DK>DK>  >  any Chestnut purchase!

DK>Ok Mike, $10 is coming at ya!!

Great!  Got 'em in stock Dave!

z u later,
.\\ike

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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 2837
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93 10:10a
Subj: OS/2 CDROM drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        I'm looking to buy a OS/2 2.1 compatible CDROM drive. It doesn't
 matter whether it's internal or external, buy I'd really prefer a caddy
 drive. Or at least one that is automatic. The one I use right now is
 horrible for switching CDs! Of course, I'd like it to be a bit
 fast <= 350ms. Please, let me know if anyone has one for sale. If you
 can get me a good price, I'll buy it in a second!
                                                        Edward

... REAL programmers use: "COPY CON FILENAME.EXE"
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From: BENJAMIN KEEN                          Number: 2838
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/02/93  9:50p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I went down to my computer store and I found an Apple CD 300 (Sony mech, 
double speed, multisession, etc) for $429, (w/o cables or terminator, but 
w/ software, 9 sample cds, a caddy, and someone to yell at if something 
goes wrong) Do you have an external doublespeed SCSI CD-ROM for anywhere 
around this price? (or in the next couple mo's when I intend on buying) I 
know Macs aren't your specialty, but I was just wondering. BTW, thanks for 
the information on that external NEC. For your files, my address is 
1528 Autumn Rd
CHarleston, WV 25314-2306
-Ben


 * Freddie 1.2.5 * DTE: 9600, DCE: 2400, BKK(Ben Keen to Keyboard): 37 
    
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 2839
  To: DON HANCOCK                              Date: 08/02/93 10:17p
Subj: Red Hot Summer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DH> Expecially xBase and
 DH>         C/C++.
Leave your address, and I'll send you a brochure for EMS Professional
Shareware's July'93 C/C++ and Xbase CD-ROM libraries. The C/C++ has 987
products, the Xbase has 2983. Each has a database describing the products and
all known commercial products, as well as a huge database of 120,000 records
listing all know PC HW/SW producers and the products they make.
Voice:301-924-3594 fax:301-963-2708 EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 2840
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93  4:57p
Subj: Offline - REALLY!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have been off-line in the worst possible sense.  During my tune-up
sessions Saturday, I kept getting messages about Drive C, and to
hit any key when corrected.

Finally, it just gave the message that my "HDD controller" was not
responding.  I had just put in a new EISA 32 bit card for my new
486 mamma board, and apparently either the sucker died, or the OS/2
sessions killed it (maybe it committed suicide - I have thought about it
since working with a whole new system).

Be that as it may, I still - luckily - had my old HDD controller in
the case with my replaced 386.  I swapped it and re-installed my OS/2
and reloaded most of my essential subdirectories.  I also 'dropped'
my DR DOS and decided to bite the bullet and  jump in with only OS/2.

I am now running my previous stuff in a DOS window, in OS/2 and it seems
to work so far.

I lost several messages, and all the replies I had in progress, due to
the HDD controller flakiness, and my novice attempts to use an icon from
BlueWave in the OS/2 desktop.  Wiped out my Subdirectory with BlueWave,
so got to reload that (and also reset all my pointers and directories,
since it had been on just a C: drive, now my OS/2 system is on C: and
my data and programs on D:.  Fun, fun.

Bottom line.  If you have sent me a message since friday, please re-send.
I tried to reset my pointers in the conferences I usually read, but might
have missed one, or more.  Thanks.




... Every Silver Lining Has a Cloud
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2841
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  8:59a
Subj: MIX or MATCH                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Canadian Shareware      Ultimate Shareware
Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
PC-SIG Games              LaserTax On CD          Phoenix # 3
Jokes&Pranks              Learning Adventure      Business Assistant
World Travler             Sound Sensation         DeathStar Arcade
Colossal CookBook         ClipArt Goliath         Technotools
Our Solar System          Bible & Religion

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

***********************************************************************



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 2842
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  9:03a
Subj: Visual Basic Shareware CD-ROM           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its Visual Basic CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a
dump of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
425 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: JOEY RATZSCH                           Number: 2843
  To: JOHN ANDERSON                            Date: 07/31/93 12:32a
Subj: CD-ROMs For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JA> Used CD-ROMs For Sale:
 JA>
 JA> Maniac Mansion 2: Day Of The Tentacle - $40
 JA> Loom - $15
 JA> The 7th Guest - $25
 JA> Infocom Treasure Chest - $20
 JA>
 JA> Call (504) 368-0180 in your interested, or send Netmail to John
 JA> Anderson  @ 1:396/1

Intersted in trading at all?  Will trade CD-ROM disks for 7th Guest.
Or other stuff.  Send NetMail to me at 1:154/123 for list and info on
stuff to trade.

Joey

... To steal this tagline press <CTL> <ALT> <DEL> now.
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From: JOEY RATZSCH                           Number: 2844
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93 10:26p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like to trade some CD-ROM disks for a copy of 7th guest.
If intereseted, drop me a line and you can see whats avalible.  If you want
to buy them, I am also selling them.
Later
Joey

... If this were an actual tagline, it _might_ be funny.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 2845
  To: MICHAEL MULCAHY                          Date: 08/02/93  6:56p
Subj: WHOLESALING & RETAILING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Pls add me to your Mailing List.
->
Hi Michael!
    I most certainly will... our next mailout will be within two weeks.

     Vince
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 2846
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 08/02/93  7:00p
Subj: WHOLESALING & RETAILING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hi there,  do you have Space Quest 4/Kings Quest for abouut 35.00?
Yes we do... S/H is $2 via Canada Post... give Michellea or myself a
call at 306-789-4654. You can also order online on our BBS at
306-789-8682 or fax us at 306-789-8690.
   Vince
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From: DAN APPLEHANS                          Number: 2847
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  1:46a
Subj: Matsushita CD-Rom drive wanted...       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am searching for a matsushita cd-rom drive.  Actually, I am searching for any
drive that will interface with A creative Labs SoundBlaster pro.  From what I
understand, few drives will interface With the SoundBlaster Pro card, (some
Signature, or something.)  Any information regarding this little dilemma would
be appreciated, and offers also.
Reply here, or call (303) 688-1378 Most anytime.

               -=Dan=-

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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 2848
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93  9:42a
Subj: Catalogs                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well, I'm not sure what happened, but a few weeks ago I posted my
address requesting CD-ROM catalogs from echo vendors. Nary a one has
shown up in my mailbox. Seeing how responsive y'all are normally I
figure it went into that great bit-bucket in the sky....Take 2:

S. Kiser
318 Gaylord Dr.
Loveland, CO 80537                        Thanks

 * SLMR 2.1a * Next packet: Knitting wool dresses for boll weevils!


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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 2849
  To: BOB ROSOL                                Date: 08/02/93 10:06a
Subj: NEW Corel ArtShow 3 CD &                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BR> Latest Corel ArtShow 3

BR>           >> Still Sealed-- BRAND NEW <<

BR>           $25 + UPS


Bob, I'm very interested in this disk, how would you like to proceeed
from here?

 * SLMR 2.1a * Life is short, Death is long. Take a vacation.


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From: PAUL DIESTELHORST                      Number: 2850
  To: DAVID BALNITES                           Date: 08/03/93  3:01p
Subj: CD File Descriptions                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to all, David Balnites said:

 >  * Forwarded from "CD-ROM Talk"
 >  * Originally by David Balnites
 >  * Originally to All
 >  * Originally dated 22 Jul 1993, 4:18

 > I am thinking of buying Night Owl 9 and i was wondering if
 > there is a utility
 > that will convert the PCBoard type multi-line Descriptions
 > into the new RemoteAccess 2.00g1 type multi-line
 > Descriptions.

 > I do know that the descriptions have to be all on 1 line to
 > use the import function with RA.

 >                         David

No they don't. Try using Genfbase and it will import multilines. I have Night
Owl 9 it's great.

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From: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                      Number: 2851
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/02/93 10:08p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD'S                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested in Afterdark Trilogy ($45). And Seedy-ROM movie disc also ($45).
Is there sound to these? and what resolution do they appear in? 
I'd like to know if you accept moneyorders. If so ten I'll make a descision
between the two...maybe even both.

Please respond to my concerns. Thank you!!


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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2852
  To: RON MITCHELL                             Date: 08/02/93 11:49p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Where and how do I get more info?  Is Mitsumi going to give
> an upgrade to owners of their drives?  My unit is still under warranty,
> so
> I would think that Mitsumi would owe me a correction.
Dear Ron,
There is always possiblity for a faulty drive. However, I do have serious
concerns over the advices given by some individuals. Infact I personaly know
that some of them never seen a Mitsumi drive. I know it is sad but true. If you
have more question ect. give me a call and I try to help you or you can call
the nearest Mitsumi technical support line and you can get your questions
answered. TTYL 

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2853
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93 12:45a
Subj: Liquadation Discs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-PowerBox $12 (General Shareware)
CD-WinBox $12 (Windows Shareware)
 
If you are interested, you can order from:
 
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd. Tacoma, WA 98409
TEL 1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
FAX 1-206-473-1634 or 1-800-277-5179

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From: MIKE WALKER                            Number: 2854
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93 12:10a
Subj: Looking                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Is there such a CD-ROM out there with just Celebrities?  I don't mind if 
they are riskey (sp?)

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From: ROBERT NELSON                          Number: 2855
  To: TERRY MCDILL                             Date: 08/01/93  9:18p
Subj: Re: The 7th Guest and Mitsumi CD-Roms   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Terry Mcdill to All <=-

 TM> Hi, all!

 TM> I just purchased a Mitusmi CD-Rom and was wondering if this drive
 TM> would support the game "The 7th Guest". The other equipment is able to


I am playing it with mine.


... I'd rather ride the Wave than wallow in QWKsand!
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From: LEE MILLIGAN                           Number: 2856
  To: JAMES PRICE                              Date: 08/04/93  2:36a
Subj: CD-ROM CACHING????                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to All, James Price said:
 > Is there a major <if any> improvement in caching a CD-rom
 > with 435 ms
 > access time and 150kb transfer rate???

 > Is there a program that will Cache my CD-rom and my hard
 > drive also??

 > Saw a public domain program, but it wouldn't work.  I think
 > it said 
 > something about the trial period expired.
 >  
 > If you use a Cache on your drive, please send me a note on
 > how you
 > like it... 
 >  

 >  
 > Thanks in advance.




 > ---
 >  * WinQwk 2.0b#872 * 20/20 BBS  Chicago 
 > james.price@twty.chi.il.us

 > --- TMail v1.31.5
 >  * Origin: * 20/20 TBBS * 312-769-1227 @2400 * 275-1785 @9600
 > (1:115/769)
Try Norton Speed Cache....it allows both Hard Drive and CD-ROM
caching.......works good on my system....(I've got a Panasonic 350 ms)...
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From: LEE MILLIGAN                           Number: 2857
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 08/04/93  2:40a
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to JOHN ROBINSON, Dave Reed said:
 > Hello JOHN!

 > Sunday July 25 1993, JOHN ROBINSON writes to JACKIE ROGERS:

 > JR>> Our new catalog is available for freq or download from the BBS

 > JR> Nice prices...........

 > JR>> ... If Clinton is the answer, it must have been a stupid question!

 > JR> Stupid Mistake on your part tho...........

 > I'm proud of her.  As more of the silent majority become
 > vocal about their political feelings, Clinton's going to feel
 > like a little man in a big house, real soon now.  At this
 > rate, I'll be able to publish a CD-ROM full of Clinton's
 > mistakes by the end of summer.  He's such a joke, I'll have
 > to market it as a comedy, though.  ;-)


 > ... My Broad Based Contribution - Kick Hillory in the butt!

 > --- QuickBBS 2.80 (Gamma-2)
 >  * Origin: The CrossRoads BBS <THE Source for Programmers!>
 > (1:344/79)
'Scuse me for butting in....but let me know when you compile that 'Clinton's
Mistakes' CD......I would like to purchase one......thanks...
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From: MIKE JORDAN                            Number: 2858
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  8:23p
Subj: Looking to Trade Doors for CD Disks     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  I'm a door author with 6 doors out (Peg-Jump, Booby Trap, Hot-Dice, Knight's
Move, Chuck-A-Luck and Tri-Bingo) and am looking to increase my collection of
two CD Disks for my BBS. I would like to offer registration of any of my doors
in trade for CD Disks.  I currently have WinBox and Shareware Vault 2 and would
like to get a few more of the general shareware CDs available (like the new
Night Owl 9, one of the ones with a programming theme or ones like that). I'm
not interested in the R and X rated CDs as my BBS is geared to family,
programming, BBS and gaming but would consider any of the non-BBS business type
CDs (US Census, Zip codes, addresses, etc.)

  If you are interested you can Netmail me at 105/314, 105/317 or 105/330 with
what you have and I'll send back the details of my games.  Or leave me a
message with how to get in touch with you and I'll do that


Thanks

Mike

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2859
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93  3:05p
Subj: Sierra CD's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Okay, who can give me the best price on King's Quest 5, Space Quest 4,
Willie Beamish and Dagger of Amon Ra?
Sierra wants $25 a piece to upgrade from floppy version :(
I have all the manuals boxes etc...
Either a separate bundle, or trade for floppy version and some $
Somone please help!

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: ZACH WELBURN                           Number: 2860
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/03/93 10:51p
Subj: CD'S ON SALE!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DO YOU HAVE SHAREWARE OVERLOAD LEFT I AM INTERESTED IN BUYING IF YOU STILL HAVE
IT
/S

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2861
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  1:45a
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

)))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((

NOW IN STOCK  BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
bustiest babes in North America including  Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.

                      PRICE - $25.00

To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2862
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  1:46a
Subj: Mix Or Match                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Canadian Shareware      Ultimate Shareware
Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
PC-SIG Games              LaserTax On CD          Phoenix # 3
Jokes&Pranks              Learning Adventure      Business Assistant
World Travler             Sound Sensation         DeathStar Arcade
Colossal CookBook         ClipArt Goliath         Technotools
Our Solar System          Bible & Religion

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

***********************************************************************



Boris Osadciw

... Oh never mind!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2863
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  1:46a
Subj: CDROM SPECIALS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2864
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  1:46a
Subj: RED HOT                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$
 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX   PRICE - $15.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
   COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - -  24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2865
  To: LARRY CHARPIAT                           Date: 08/03/93  1:46a
Subj: Re: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Can the Pioneer six disk changers access the six different CD
>>    ROM disk through a BBS menu with a software switch or command?


You can only access one disk at a time !!

Most Sysops use a door that allows thier users to access the filebase
and when thier ready, the door moves the file to a downloadable area
and then allows the next user to access download mode. This users access
to all the file areas with very little slow down of the system.

Interested in any additional information, please give us a call and we'll
be happy to help you further.

Boris Osadciw

... I'm too sexy! You know what I mean!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2866
  To: DON HANCOCK                              Date: 08/03/93  1:46a
Subj: Re: Red Hot Cd'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>>$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

BO>> ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec

>>        Hi Boris. I'm looking for virtually any programming CD's
>>        and this looks like about the most I'd pay. However, I
>>        don't know ANY of the available CD's. I got Source CD-ROM
>>        Mar'92 with my CD, but it stinks. I'm particularly
>>        interested in C, C++, Clipper and dBASE files. My
>>        father-in-law is interested in Pascal. What kind of files
>>        (and their numbers) are on this and other disks? Looking
>>        to add 3 or 4 more to my collection. Thanx for any info....

The cd contains over 15,000 files and is 360+ megs in size. It has
everything you meantioned above and more. It even contains articials
and refreance material as well and even some MAC files.

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy
to help you out.

Boris Osadciw

... Mail Media. Do not expose to Flames!
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From: LOUIS SOKOL                            Number: 2867
  To: PAUL SEDILLO                             Date: 08/03/93  5:55p
Subj: DISTRIB. WANTED.                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Paul, I am a TBBS sysop...please send me info on your eSoft line as well as
other hardware and software.  I also have had a problem with Merisel wanting to
charge me more as a reseller than I can buy it for retail off the
street....such a deal.
* SPITFIRE v3.3
* Database Connections BBS * Supporting dBASE, Clipper, and More!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2868
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  6:04p
Subj: Review of Pork-Ware II                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     Once again, many thanks to Mike Shannon of Starvector for providing
     a copy of an adult CD for review.  This time it's Pork-Ware II.  Us
     CUSTOMERS should thank Mike (and others) for providing a valuable
     service: the ability to get an inside look at a CD BEFORE plunking
     down "the necessary" and thereby perhaps avoiding a disappointment
     to us and a hassle for the vendor.

     As with past reviews, I'll evaluate the CD from three different
     aspects: statistics (numerical data relative to the physical contents
     of the CD), operations (aspects of the CD that affect convenience and
     usability), and visual (the esthetic merits of the CD's imagery).
     Each aspect of the review will be posted as a separate message on this
     echo.

     Statistics
     ==========

     Pork-Ware II (PW2) has 3308 GIF images on it, plus 100+ "animation"
     files.  The CD has 24 image directories, "X01" through "X23" for GIFs
     and "X24" for the animations.  While the image directory names don't
     give a clue to their contents, in fact the 23 GIF directories are
     divided along subject matter lines.  Compared to PW1, PW2 adds
     directories for the animations, males, and group shots, but deletes
     the Targa directory found on PW1.  There are also some minor directory
     name changes from PW1, but essentially the imagery organization
     between the two CDs is identical.

     There is a total 606,421,814 bytes across the 3308 GIF files making an
     average of 183,319 bytes per GIF.  I could find NO duplicate file
     names on the CD, but I did discover several duplicate files through
     electronic audit and browsing.  Based on those activities, my guess
     would be that there's about 1% GIF file duplication within the CD
     itself. However, when compared to my GIF name data base, of the 3308
     GIFs on PW2, I found 3269 name matches - a "hit" factor of 99%!!
     Something's very wrong here.  From their respective names, one would
     assume that PW2 was published after PW1.  Indeed, the file name
     comparison showed no duplication between them.  However, in my review
     of PW1, I found only a 41% hit factor.  Perhaps PW1's success led it's
     producers to become overly aggressive or perhaps somewhat lax in
     acquiring scans for PW2.  There doesn't seem to be an original GIF on
     it.  The hit list is as follows:

         Seedy 6-Pak    3132                7th Heaven       0
         Busty Babes 1   114                Busty Babes 3  230
         Ecstasy         182                FAO-2          170
         FAO-3           239                FAO-GOLD       211
         PCPIX-1         186                PCPIX-2        557
         PCPIX-3          89                Visual Fntsy   253
         PW1               0                Storm-3        366

     I didn't unzip and view all of the 100+ animation files on PW2, but
     going by their file names, one could expect a similar "re-hash" factor
     among them as well.


     Operations to follow...





























































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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2869
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  6:05p
Subj: Review of Pork-Ware II (con't)          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     Operations
     ==========

     PW2 came with the same 3-1/2" support disk that was packaged with PW1.
     It's interesting to note that the installation instructions printed on
     the jewel box insert do not mention this diskette, and in fact
     describe an entirely separate and disparate installation procedure.

     Like PW1, both CSHOW and VPIC are on the CD, but installation from the
     support diskette forces VPIC as the default viewer.  A rather weak
     attempt at video auto-configuration is attempted via WHICHVGA.
     Apparently the supplied version of this video BIOS-peeking program is
     somewhat dated (like PW2's GIFs) as it failed to correctly recognize
     and configure VPIC for my S3-based board. (In contrast, SHOWOFF on
     Busty Babes Rel. 3 did auto-configure itself correctly for my video
     setup so I know it can be done.).  If you have an older board, say
     TS-4000 or before, then you'd probably get a good hint from WHICHVGA
     that would let you complete installation OK.

     Installation ends with the copying of VIEWPORK.BAT to your DOS
     directory (if you choose).  Typing in VIEWPORK will cause a .BAT-file
     generated menu to appear from which a viewing selection from the
     directories can be made.  Since I use neither CSHOW nor VPIC on a
     regular basis, I found the VIEWPORK.BAT file most handy for clipping
     out and saving the "directory menu" for use when viewing PW2 files.

     There are some file description files on PW2.  They are in the LIST
     directory and are called "X01.DIR" and so forth.  I'm not sure what
     BBS format that nomenclature or the internal format of the contents
     represents, but the file descriptions appeared to be fairly accurate
     accounts of the files' contents.  What was poor was that the
     correspondence between the .DIR files and the actual directory names
     was wrong except for two directories.  The real correspondence is as
     follows:

         .DIR file   (REALLY goes with)     Directory
         ---------                          ---------

         X01                                X13
         X02                                X23
         X03                                X21
         X04                                X20
         X05                                X22
         X06                                X03
         X07                                X01
         X08                                X05
         X09                                X04
         X10                                X10 (CORRECT)
         X11                                X19
         X12                                X08
         X13                                X07
         X14                                X09
         X15                                X06
         X16                                X12
         X17                                X11
         X18                                X02
         X19                                X14
         X20                                X15
         X21                                X16
         X22                                X17
         X23                                X18
         X24                                X24  (CORRECT)

     Visual to follow...




















































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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2870
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  6:06p
Subj: Review of Pork-Ware II (con'c)          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     Visual
     ======

     Like its predecessor, PW2 is a full-blown "X" CD with a smorgasbord of
     subject matter, and nothing really on the fringe.  What makes it a bit
     unusual is the inclusion of a directory (X13) of nude male GIFs.
     Beyond that, if you already own at least one of the comparison CDs,
     there's nothing in PW2 that you haven't seen before, subject-wise.  If
     you own the Seedy ROM series, you LITERALLY have seen it all before or
     at least have access to it.

     The quality (i.e. sharpness, etc.) of most of the scans was pretty
     good although some images clearly looked like second or third
     generation copies of the original.  I don't understand this,
     particularly with such a high re-hash factor.  I could (and did) find
     better images of the same scan on my Seedy ROM CDs.  Some of the
     poorer GIFs were recognizable as cropped portions of the original scan
     which had been "zoomed" to full-screen size and thereby lost some
     sharpness.  Others, for example the "Fourth of July at Lake Tahoe"
     series, were just plain blurry - cause unknown.

     I would also mention that of the 39 file names that weren't "hits" in
     the file name data base, visual inspection revealed that 27 of them
     were indeed "old friends" sporting different names.  Bottom line: at
     best there's about 12 "new" files on this CD.  That makes them cost
     about $2 each at current street prices.  Given that, the very high
     re-hash factor, and the mixed-up file listings, I can't recommend PW2
     as a good value.  Any of the comparison CDs would be a much better
     choice.

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From: DAVID BALNITES                         Number: 2871
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 08/03/93  9:32p
Subj: TCM/Night Owl Newsletter.               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >     - leave a message here with your name & address

Please include me on your mailing list

David Balnites
1400 La Sierra Rd.
Fort Worth, Tx 76134


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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 2872
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93 10:15a
Subj: SegaCD's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello!
 I have the following SegaCD's for trade(for PC Compatible CD-Rom's) or sale:


Sega Classic's (Streets of Rage,Revenge of Shinobi,Columns,Golden
Axe)/Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective (2 CD's in double holder)

Sol-Feace

Double CD/CD+G package(various artists,including Chris Issak,Jimi
Hendrix,Fleetwood Mac,etc.)


If interested,please leave me a message here,

                       Thank You,

                                     Diana

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From: TERRY MCDILL                           Number: 2873
  To: CHRIS WISE                               Date: 08/03/93 12:02a
Subj: Re: The 7th guest and mitsumi           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Chris Wise to Terry Mcdill <=-


 CW> are running it with a soundblaster pro, then you will need to get the
 CW> update for it. I think it is called T7G_124.exe. This will do away
 CW> with the sound buffer overflow error. Hope this helps you out. 

I do have the newer one, thanks for your help.

Terry


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From: TERRY MCDILL                           Number: 2874
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 08/03/93 12:06a
Subj: Re: The 7th Guest and Mitsumi           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Jim Reed to Terry Mcdill <=-

 JR> Hi Terry;
 JR> T7G runs just fine on my Mitsumi 350ms Internal.
 JR> /JIM/

Thanks!

Terry


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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 2875
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  3:40p
Subj: CUSTOMER INFORMATION                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          WHY BUY CD-ROMS FROM YOUR CANADIAN DEALER, PART ONE

Shipped from within Canada       From outside Canada
 - 3 day or LESS shipping,        - 3 days to the border,
   as low as $2                     ??? days after that, min. 1 week
 - Match valid advertised prices  - Match valid advertised prices
 - Adult titles get to you        - Adult discs may be seized by
   promptly                         customs, you still have to pay!
 - No exchange hassles: you       - Bank charges, exchange charges,
   know what you pay                postal charges, you name it.
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From: JASON SAUVE                            Number: 2876
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  6:42p
Subj: CD's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The following computer items are FORSALE, see below for more information.
 
 
CD-ROM SOFTWARE:
Title                                    Disk Sizes  Gfx    Price (CDN)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
CorelDraw 3.0 For Windows                *CD-ROM*    SVGA  $200.00
  SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
    -  IBM compatible 386s, 486s, and PS/2s
       286s require Windows in protected mode with minimum 4 megs RAM
    -  Windows 3.1 required for True Type fonts
    -  Windows 3.0 font support provided by Adobe Type Manager (not included)
    -  Hard Drive
    -  VGA Windows supported monitor
    -  Mouse or tablet
  INCLUDES
    -  CorelDRAW                -  CorelPHOTO-PAINT
    -  CorelCHART               -  CorelSHOW
    -  CorelMOSAIC              -  CorelTRACE
  CONDITION
    -  Includes everything except the registration card
 
 
European Racers                          *CD-ROM*    SVGA  $ 60.00
  CONDITION
    -  Includes ALL ORIGINAL documents including registration card
    -  Includes model (Porsche 911 slant nose) in it's original package
       Model requires assembly
    -  Used ONLY twice
  PC SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
    -  386 SX or greater                  -  4 MB RAM or greater
    -  SVGA graphics                      -  CD-ROM drive
    -  DOS 5.0 or greater                 -  Soundblaster card
    -  Speakers or headphones             -  Mouse (joystick optional)
    -  13 MB Hard Drive
  DESCRIPTION
    -  State-of-the-art, interactive 3-D instructions for building your own
       Porsche, Bugatti, Lamborghini and Nazca models - four of Europe's
       hottest racing machines!
    -  The plastic modem kit for the super hot, super fast Porsche 911 slant
       nose.
    -  High-tech, motion picture video tips that show you how to paint, glue
       and finish your model like a pro.
    -  Building your car is only half the fun - climb behind the wheel and
       enter an action-packed, 3D driving simulation game guarenteed to keep
       you on the edge of your seat every time you play.
    -  Experience the real life, high-speed handling of each super-charged car
       and the incredible realism of 3-D graphics.
    -  Test your stuff against on-screen competitors on four European roads &
       race tracks.
    -  But, watch out for speed traps! The police are waiting to catch you on
       your way to the track.
    -  Cruise over the track-even over buildings - with European Racers copter
       cam.
    -  Throughout the game, listen, learn or receive your punishment from the
       motion picture video policeman, gas station attendant, sportscaster,
       pit crew attendant, custodian, and beauty queen.
    -  Got a feel for the car? How improve your performance by customizing
       your race car to match the randomly changing weather, the track layout,
       and the competition.
  
 
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 : --  100% of the executable programs are NOT DEFECTIVE                    :
 : --  NO GUARENTEES/REFUNDS WHAT-SO-EVER                                   :
 :                                                                          :
 : All Prices include them nasty sales taxes                                :
 : S&H (Shipping & Handling) not included in the above prices.              :
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*****************************************************************************
 
For more information, if you are interested in purchasing a product please
leave me mail via any board in 519 area code on any of the "For Sale" nets.
Specifically in the Windsor / Essex County districts with your phone number
included to Jason Sauve...

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2877
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/04/93  1:38a
Subj: Mix or Match                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Canadian Shareware      Ultimate Shareware
Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
PC-SIG Games              LaserTax On CD          Phoenix # 3
Jokes&Pranks              Learning Adventure      Business Assistant
World Travler             Sound Sensation         DeathStar Arcade
Colossal CookBook         ClipArt Goliath         Technotools
Our Solar System          Bible & Religion

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

***********************************************************************



Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2878
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/04/93  1:38a
Subj: RED HOT CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$
 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX   PRICE - $15.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
   COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - -  24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2879
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/04/93  1:38a
Subj: Busty Babes III v1.0                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

)))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((

NOW IN STOCK  BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
bustiest babes in North America including  Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.

                      PRICE - $25.00

To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((



Boris Osadciw

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From: RON RICHMOND                           Number: 2880
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/02/93 11:04p
Subj: Last disk                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 

HI Boris, I guess you know I don't want your last Busty Babes Rel.1 disk at
that price. What is your price for Busty Babes  release 2 ? One of the others
has it for $29. and as a Consumer Club Previous purchaser( of a CD Rom Drive, I
would like to purchase it from you if possible.      Thanks,
                                                             Ron.
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From: JOHN MORRISON                          Number: 2881
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93  8:36a
Subj: Battlechess-enhanced mode               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am writing this for a friend who doesn't have a modem. He is looking  for
"BATTLECHESS"-enhanced mode, on CDrom. Would anyone who sells it please
E-mail me a price including shipping  to Winnipeg MB.


                                Thanks

                                    John    

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From: MIKE ROBINSON                          Number: 2882
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/03/93 10:42a
Subj: Hitachi cd rom drives $130              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

A
A
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From: MIKE ROBINSON                          Number: 2883
  To: LOYD CRAFT                               Date: 08/03/93 10:45a
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HELLO LOYD

I LIKE WHAT YOU ARE DOING WITH THE C.D.ROM STUFF WILL YOU PLEASE SENT ME SOME
INFO.ON THIS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS BEFORE I SENT YOU SOME STUFF
TO DO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW YOU DO IT PLEASE MAIL ME AT
                 MIKE ROBINSON
                 2 HEFT CRESENT
                 WINNIPEG,MANITOBA
                  CANADA
                  R2P-1N4
   
 AND WILL YOU PLEASE SEND ME A MESSAGE ON THIS BOARD TO SAY YOU GOT THIS
MESSAGE AND YOU WIL SENT THE INFO. OUT TO ME



                                             THANK YOU
  
                                             MIKE ROBINSON


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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2884
  To: JOHN ANDERSON                            Date: 08/03/93 12:38p
Subj: Re: The 7Th Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>.. Clinton will tax wealthy Americans. Congratulations! You're rich!
>
>I might have been interested, but I don't do buisness with
>people who show the distaste of forwarding their
>unsolicited political views.

JA>Speak For Yourself.  I will try, at all possible chances, to send all of
JA>my
JA>further CD-ROM orders to Mike since he was exercising his "distaste" by
JA>taking advantage of his 1st amendment rights....

JA>John

And he has every right to. But, I also have the right to choose who I do
buisness with bases on any factor I wish. I choose not to do buisness with a
person who that doesn't know any buisness tact. Is he is going to send me a
message exercising his first amendment right to free speech, then I am going to
send a message back expressing mine.

..Ex ignorantia ad sapientiam; e luce ad tenebras

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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 2885
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 08/04/93  8:03a
Subj: TCM/Night Owl Newsletter                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 08-02-93 Ray Herold wrote to All... 
 
 RH> If you are NOT on our mailing list, but would like to  
 
Ray, I'd like to get on your mailing list so here's my address: 
 
Paul F. Swider 
509 Digger St. 
Las Vegas, Nv. 
89107 
 
Thanks >Paul< 
 
 
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 2886
  To: ALEX MAHAN                               Date: 08/04/93  9:08a
Subj: Communications-Games                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Has anybody seen a cd-rom with lots of communication-bbs stuff, along
-> with games and music? Ill pay up to $30 for one, maybe $40. Also, is
-> anybody else into SB/VGA demos? I havent been able to find a good cd
-> with that stuff on. Thanks, ALex
->
->
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Night owl 9 has all the fore mentioned. Try it out, I am very pleased
with mine!
bubba
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From: MATTHEW SMITH                          Number: 2887
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 08/04/93 11:19a
Subj: TCM/Night Owl Newsletter.               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RH>    - leave a message here with your name & address
RH>    - call our BBS and leave a message to the sysop
Here you go:

Matthew Smith
1509 Rockwood Drive
Keller, TX, 76248

thanks


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From: JOHN GOERL                             Number: 2888
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 08/04/93  2:51a
Subj: Initial Message                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

This message initalizes this conference (FNPACK)! 
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From: ALEX MAHAN                             Number: 2889
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93 12:10p
Subj: Nightowl                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Has anybody seen nightowl 8 or 9 going cheap? I need a good cd-rom with
everthing on it (actually my dad does) but I havent seen them for iunder
$30. Thanks for any input, Alex


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2890
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/03/93  8:57p
Subj: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>You had posted a list of adult titles for sale and I'd asked for more
BJ>information. You supplied a little more, but not enough for me to make a
BJ>purchase decision. Oddly enough, Goosebump Graphics posted a similar list
BJ>shortly thereafter with somewhat more inclusive descriptions. Bottom  line:
BJ>I'll probably wait and work through the titles I'm interested in  with Mike
BJ>Shannon one or two at a time over then next several weeks.

Bob,

Which ones were you interested in?  Maybe I can answer your questions
for you.

BTW, did you get Oinker 2 OK?

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2891
  To: JOHN ANDERSON                            Date: 08/03/93  8:58p
Subj: The 7Th Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JA>>>.. Clinton will tax wealthy Americans. Congratulations! You're rich!
JA>>
JA>>I might have been interested, but I don't do buisness with
JA>>people who show the distaste of forwarding their
JA>>unsolicited political views.

JA>Speak For Yourself.  I will try, at all possible chances, to send all of my
JA>further CD-ROM orders to Mike since he was exercising his "distaste" by
JA>taking advantage of his 1st amendment rights....

John,

Thanks for the support, but how did I get caught up in all this???

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2892
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 08/03/93  8:58p
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
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VS>Do you have the adult cd featuring teri weigel?

You mean the "Wicked" photo CD?  Not yet, because I think the price is a
little too high, but maybe if it comes down to a reasonable level.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2893
  To: TED KIDD                                 Date: 08/03/93  8:58p
Subj: NEW CD'S IN STOCK!                      Refer: NONE
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TK>MS> Radio.......$19Aminet Amiga 1993...$15   Bible Library 1.1...$28

TK>Is the Aminet Amiga 1993 disc BBS compatible?
TK>And, do you carry a Macintosh disc that is IBM BBS compatible other than
TK>OtherWare????  Please give the name, price, and date if you do...

Not really.  There are text files on the CD, but not in any type of
recognizable format that I could see.  There is a directory of BBS
tools to let you create your own text files however.  The only other
Amiga CD we stock besides Otherware is AB20, which is actually an
earlier release of this one.

Hope that helps!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2894
  To: CHRIS WISE                               Date: 08/03/93  8:58p
Subj: Fax                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CW>    I used it and it worked.  I want to thank you for your prompt assistance
CW>got it about 3 days after I ordered it or so).  For anyone out there
thinking
CW>on using their services I would recommend them, and will definitely use them

Glad to hear that Chris, and thanks for the orders.  The ol' desktop fax
hasn't failed me yet, but I can't for the life of me get this silly Boca
fax card to -receive- a fax.  Transmit works OK.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2895
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/03/93  8:58p
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BR>someone owns the copyrights to the images on this disc weather it be a
BR>model
BR>herself, a photography, or a magazine, so I would not want to take a
BR>chance of
BR>putting that disc or any other adult CD-Rom disc on a BBS a sysop
BR>could
BR>possibily get nailed for distribution of copyrighted material and
BR>anyone
BR>selling this disc or any other adult disc that is not copyrighted and
BR>licensed
BR>takes a BIG chance of get prosecuted for sale and distribution of
BR>copyrighted
BR>material so ***** B E W A R E ***** sysops and distributors.

Then there are those crazy dealers like me who like to live life on the
edge.  I'll take ALL THE BUSTY'S I CAN GET MY HANDS ON!  Keep 'em
coming Lee!

BTW, would you explain why you publish a CD with FILES.BBS in each
directory, yet your forbid its use on BBS's?  What's wrong with that
picture?  It's a good looking CD, but you're eliminating a vast
potential market by turning up your nose at the sysops! (IMHO)  I'm
considering dropping your CD from my catalog after learning of this BBS
restriction.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2896
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 08/03/93  8:58p
Subj: cd's shipping to canada??               Refer: NONE
Read: 08/06/93 10:23a                       Private: No 

TH>Right now, no.  I see no fundamental legal differences between what
TH>occurs here & what occurs in the back of PC Magazine... Obviously I
TH>won't allow specific, nontechnical, discussion of these discs in this
TH>echo - that goes without saying.  I guess what I'm trying to say is, "if
TH>it's good enough for PC Mag, it's good enough for me"...

Right on Tim!

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2897
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 08/03/93  8:58p
Subj: The monster is back!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LF> Thanks for reinstituting the "monster;" I've saved it to my "CDROMCAT"
LF> file for reference. I notice that "Front Page News" is not on your
LF> list, though it was in the catalog you sent with the discs. Is it no
LF> longer available? I hope you still have/can get it, since we were
LF> planning to order it at work as soon as the budget approval comes
LF> through.

Got one set aside for ya darlin'.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2898
  To: CHRIS HARRIS                             Date: 08/03/93  8:58p
Subj: StarVector CD Sales                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CH>Mike, jusr got the CD's I ordered.  Am really pleased with them all, as
CH>is the wife and children.  Expect to see MORE orders from me in the
CH>future.

Good deal Chris.  Let me know anytime you need anything!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2899
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/03/93  8:58p
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>Great! I'm assuming that the new GUI will be D/L-able from your BBS for
owner
BJ>of the current release (?) .

Bob,

We have the "fix" on our BBS @ 509-457-0206.  Filename is WBOXFIX.ZIP

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2900
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  8:58p
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 1/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 August 1993             DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 8/01
 **************************************************************************
                                   1 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Microsoft Musical Instruments.58.00
 7th Guest.....................52.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........58.00
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    MIDI Music Shop...............29.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........24.50
 American Business Phonebk 1...17.00    Monarch Notes.................64.00
 American Business Phonebk 2...19.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 Amiga AB20....................15.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...38.50
 Aminet Amiga (New!)...........15.00    Monster Media 93 (New!).......33.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......27.00    Mother of All Clipart.........23.50
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....27.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....30.00
 Audubon's Birds...............25.00    National Business Directory...39.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............25.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    National Parks................29.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 4.1.................20.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl 8.0.................27.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....13.00    Night Owl 9.0 (In stock!).....33.00
 Business Master...............20.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    North American Fax Book.......39.00
 California Collection.........17.00    Ocean Digital Imagery.........34.50
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...19.00
 CD PowerBox...................20.00    Our Solar System..............13.00
 CD Winbox (New!)..............27.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....29.50
 CD Grab Bag Disc..............19.00    PC-SIG #12....................27.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    PC Gameroom...................27.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Pentomino.....................32.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phethean's Shareware #1.......15.00
 Clipart Galore................28.00    Phoenix 3.0...................13.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 1........................27.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........27.00    Pier 2 (In stock!)............35.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....28.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....22.00
 Composer Quest................35.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......88.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency... 98.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........125.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....69.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....69.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........34.00
 Conan the Cimmerian...........33.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........27.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Crossword Cracker.............24.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Reader's Library..............31.50
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Reference Library.............27.50
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....36.00
 Desktop Bookshop..............27.50    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...42.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....27.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Secret of Monkey Island.......25.50
 Dinosaur Adventure............34.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...28.00
 DTPro.........................28.50    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Eagle Eye Shareware (New!)....25.00    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Online..............28.00
 Electronic Cookbook (New!)....33.00    Shareware Overload............13.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2901
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  8:58p
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 2/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Shareware Studio 1............20.00
 Empire Clipart................29.00    Shareware Studio 2............25.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........15.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...25.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    Sights & Sounds...............25.00
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......29.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Find-It Webster...............49.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Font Master 2.................28.00    So Much Shareware 2...........27.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....28.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    Software Vault 1..............25.00
 Game Arena (New!).............13.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....27.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..29.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Soundware Collection (New!)...27.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    SoundWAV......................28.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Global Explorer...............93.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Space Quest IV................24.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Grolier's Ill. Ency. 2.0......38.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Grolier's MM Ency. 5.0........48.00    Street Atlas USA..............86.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency. 1.5.......48.00    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...25.00    Super CD 2....................27.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....16.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Super Games For Windows.......16.00
 Hamware 1993 (New!)...........28.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Technotools...................13.00
 House of Games................24.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..27.50
 Illustrated Holy Bible........47.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.50
 Jets & Props..................31.50    Total Baseball................29.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00    Trump Castle..................33.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. & World Atlas............29.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 King's Quest V................24.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........27.50    Up All Night Shareware (New!).19.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    VGA Spectrum 1................15.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00    VGA Spectrum 2................22.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    Visions of Saturn.............25.00
 Libris Britannia..............42.00    Vital Signs...................45.00
 Lion's Share..................24.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Loom..........................25.00    Window Master.................20.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........37.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Wing Commander II Deluxe......57.50
 Magnum One Shareware..........27.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Magnum Sight & Sound..........27.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......25.00
 Manhole.......................36.50    World Atlas MPC...............27.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............28.00    World Traveler (New!).........18.00
 Mega Clipart (New!)...........29.00    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......58.00    World Vision 3-Pak............45.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2902
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  8:58p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICES                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------

 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    PC-PIX 3......................30.00
 After Dark Trilogy (New!).....45.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 All Beauties (New!)...........36.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Amateur Models (New!).........35.00    Porkware 2 (New!).............37.00
 Animation Fantasies 1 or 2....29.00    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Busty Babes 2.0 or 3.0........33.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........29.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Erotic Encounters.............36.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........49.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Seymore Butts Interactive.....49.00
 Girls of Vivid (New!).........45.00    Smutware......................32.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................29.00    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................29.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......35.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................29.00    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............29.00    Storm 2.......................28.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00    Storm 3.......................29.00
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Storm 3-Pak...................75.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....45.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Nightwatch Interactive (Wow!).49.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 PC-PIX 1......................30.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 PC-PIX 2......................30.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2903
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 08/03/93  8:30a
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROMs                      Refer: NONE
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-> Yes, they are SCSI, not proprietary.  The software used are your own
-> controllers drivers.  This drive doesn't require any special drivers
Okay! I will keep this in mind for when I do make my decision!
Thanks for the help!
Henry

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 2904
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 08/04/93  9:37a
Subj: Re: THE 7TH GUEST                       Refer: NONE
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 -=> Quoting Israel Gomberg to Mark Johnsen <=-

 MJ>... Clinton will tax wealthy Americans. Congratulations! You're rich!

 IG> I might have been interested, but I don't do buisness with people who
 IG> show the  distaste of forwarding their unsolicited political views.

        Why don't you rephrase that? What you really meant was, "I voted
for Clinton and now I'm too embarrassed to tell anyone".
                                                        Edward

... Clinton's Gift to us....$1.1 trillion MORE debt.
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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 2905
  To: BOB TRUBE                                Date: 08/04/93  9:54a
Subj: Re: DROP                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Bob Trube to Qmail <=-

 BT> Add, Drop, or Reset a Conference.
 BT> * LAKOTA v1.0
 BT> -!- FreeMail 1.08
 BT>  ! Origin: The Galactic WarZone BBS * Houston, TX * (713) 498-4231 * 
 BT> (1:106/4231)

        Geez that was REAL informational. Especially to the thousands of
 people who will read ALL three messages.
                                                        Edward

... Rush said it would be like this.
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From: NATE LAWSON                            Number: 2906
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/04/93 12:00a
Subj: 7th guest                               Refer: NONE
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I am very interested in the 7th Guest CD.  The lowest price I have seen has
been $49 through mail order.  Anyone have a used version?  Seen a lower price?

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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 2907
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/04/93  2:01p
Subj: Jem Disc I Trade In Deal                Refer: NONE
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    Jem Disc I Shareware CD-Rom Collection - now just $19.95 plus S/H
    OR send us a used unwanted CD-Rom in good condition and Jem Disc is
    yours for just $14.95 including S/H!

    Jem Disc was pressed last September and features about 500MB of great
    files in 59 well organized directories.  Nearly 100 megs of Jem Disc's
    files are BBS/Sysop related making this disc a must for all serious
    sysops!

    FREQ from 1:203/49 at v.32bis speeds:

    JEMDISC  - Jem Disc description, stats & order form (5k)
    JEMTRADE - Jem Disc trade in special (hurry offer ends 9/15!)
    JEMFILES - Jem Disc FILES.BBS file listings

    Or call my BBS at 916-921-9949 & snag these files from my logon matrix!


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2908
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 08/04/93  1:08a
Subj: Whom?                                   Refer: NONE
Read: 08/06/93 10:25a                       Private: No 

01 Aug 93 09:02, Tim Helton wrote to Bob Jackson:

 TH> OK, who owns copyright to the echos?  Tom Jennings owns copyright to the

 TH> to declare them as such... So, who owns copyright: "dunno".

 TH> The punch line is "yes" - someone is legally responsible for the mail
 TH> that flows thru this echo, but that "someone" is unknown.

The person who writes the post is the copyright holder.  I believe that you
could get more information on this from the MODERATOR echo.

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From: JOE HEUGLY                             Number: 2909
  To: TERRY MCDILL                             Date: 08/01/93  2:17a
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST AND MITSUMI               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TM>I just purchased a Mitusmi CD-Rom and was wondering if this drive would
  >support
  >the game "The 7th Guest". The other equipment is able to support the game.
TM>Terry

Hi Terry,
I own a Talon TA-100 (Mitsumi LU005S), and I am using The 7th Guest.  I
am sure it runs faster on the double-speed drives, but I am happy with
the game on my Mitsumi.
Expect to pay in the high 50's + s/h mail order, or in the 60 to 70
range at a store.
Joe

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2910
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/04/93 10:07a
Subj: Encyclopedia                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does Anyone have a Encyclopedia NEW or in good condition for less that $35?


                Thanks!

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2911
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/06/93 10:15a
Subj: Review of Pork-Ware II (c               Refer: 6315
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->      Visual
->      ======

That's good stuff, Bob...

tim
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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2912
  To: PAUL SEDILLO                             Date: 08/04/93  7:57a
Subj: Re: New hard drives                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  QD> Is the Western Digital really that much faster than the Maxtor?
->  QD> is the throughput on each drive?
->
-> Western Digital from what the trade rags say, is on it's last
-> leg. As far as the WD2340 being faster than the 7345A, that is
The Wertern Digital has a bigger cache than Maxtor.
Seagate drives have more cache and 5400 rpms on their 340mb drive..
the others have around 3600rpms.

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: KEITH TOWNSEND                         Number: 2913
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 08/04/93 10:28p
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey Mike!

  Like I said the Drive I bought from you seems to be working fine..However
about once every 15 second the LED turns on and off again..this does this
continously..Sounds like unnecessary Disk access to me..Is this normal for
these Toshiba drives or could it be a termination thing (It's the only SCSI
device)..It seems to do it witth both the Asim and the CBM software so I
don't think It's a software thing...Please leave me a note in case I'm
worrying for nothing...Thanx

Keith Townsend Sysop Ami-Madness BBS


*FSED91jSC 1.3d* >  Gravity doesn`t exist: the earth sucks.
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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 2914
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/04/93  3:55p
Subj: Re: CD's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Ismail Arslangiray to Ron Mitchell <=-

 > the Shareware Studio Vol. 1 and Vol. 2 and my CD won't read them
 > except on a hit or miss basis.  Now I'm kind of scared to buy any more
 
 IA> Dear Ron,
 IA> Due to price cutting war among the some replicating houses, some of
 IA> the disks  have been shipped out without proper check or warranty. 
 IA> Therefor several of the existing disks don't meet the 
 IA> ORANGE Book specs. If you have any disk that doesn't read 
 IA> on your Mitsumi or any other drive, check the disk yet. If 

Ismail,

To check these CDs out, I stopped at a local Radio Shack amd asked if
I could try to read them with one of their display units.  They agreed
and when I put the CDs in their system, it read them with no problem.

I'm not sure, but it seems to me that I have a problem with my Mitsumi.
If my theory is wrong, please let me know. I guess it's still possible
that it could be the CDs, but it doesn't seem likely to me.

My plan now is to check with the tech people at Mitsumi and try to get
this problem resolved without my users having to do without access to the
CDRom for an extended period of time.  I'm also going to go by the dealer's
store where I bought the reader and try the CDs in some of their other
Mitsumi CDs to be fair. 

I certainly appreciate your offer of help, and at some time in the future I
might have to take you up on it.

                                     Thanks,
                                          Ron

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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 2915
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/05/93  9:23a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Ismail Arslangiray to Ron Mitchell <=-

 > Where and how do I get more info?  Is Mitsumi going to give
 > an upgrade to owners of their drives?  My unit is still under warranty,
 > so
 > I would think that Mitsumi would owe me a correction.
 IA> Dear Ron,
 IA> There is always possiblity for a faulty drive. However, I do have
 IA> serious  concerns over the advices given by some individuals. Infact 
 IA> I personaly know that some of them never seen a Mitsumi 
 IA> drive. I know it is sad but true. If you have more question 
 IA> ect. give me a call and I try to help you or you can call 
 IA> the nearest Mitsumi technical support line and you can get 
 IA> your questions answered. TTYL 

I called the Mitsumi tech people yesterday and they seemed to think it was
a software problem.  Their suggestion was to change the parameters in
MTMCDD to disable DMA transfers and use software transfers(while still
using the DMA software).  Sounds confusing, doesn't it?  Anyway, it didn't
cure the problem.  I can still read the CDs that I could read, and can't 
read the CDs that I couldn't read.  I'm goimg to the dealer with the CDs
today and try them in his shop and see what develops.

This is very frustrating, because I want to add some more CDs to my rotation
schedule, and until I know exactly what's happening I can't afford to
spend any more money on CDs.  I already have two that I can't use, and
can't afford to end up with any others.

Depending on what I find out at the dealer, I'll call Mitsumi again,
pull out all my hair, jump off a cliff, or something.  I hate to take
the CD offline because it's my main source of files.  But if it's a problem 
with the drive I might have to do so.


                                 Ron


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2916
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/05/93  7:16p
Subj: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Goosebump Graphics posted a lengthly and pretty descriptive listing of adult
titles so I have what I need in that regard. Porky 2 arrived, got reviewed,
and is on his way back (sorry).

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From: EARL BONSER                            Number: 2917
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 08/05/93  1:22p
Subj: TCM/Night Owl Newsletter.               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RH>If you are NOT on our mailing list, but would like to get the latest
RH>Night Owl news (along with info on discounts we do not advertise in
RH>the e-mail nets), you may do one of the following:
RH>    - leave a message here with your name & address

Please add me to your mailing list:

       Earl Bonser
       12088 Andreson Rd. #170
       Tampa, Fl. 33625

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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2918
  To: EDWARD CROUSER                           Date: 08/05/93  6:08p
Subj: Re: THE 7TH GUEST                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MJ>... Clinton will tax wealthy Americans. Congratulations! You're
EC>rich!

 IG> I might have been interested, but I don't do buisness with people
EC>who
 IG> show the  distaste of forwarding their unsolicited political views.

EC>        Why don't you rephrase that? What you really meant was, "I voted
EC>for Clinton and now I'm too embarrassed to tell anyone".

Gee.. Paranoid? Actualy I wrote in Howard Phillips Lovecraft, I didn't like any
of the candidates. However your reply was tipical of many people today. Assume
and accuse before thinking.

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From: LESLIE THOMAS                          Number: 2919
  To: DAN APPLEHANS                            Date: 08/05/93  6:47a
Subj: Matsushita CD-Rom drive w               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DA>I am searching for a matsushita cd-rom drive.  Actually, I am searchin
DA>drive that will interface with A creative Labs SoundBlaster pro.  From
DA>understand, few drives will interface With the SoundBlaster Pro card,
DA>Signature, or something.)  Any information regarding this little dilem
DA>be appreciated, and offers also.
DA>Reply here, or call (303) 688-1378 Most anytime.


One of the drives that you are looking for is the Mitsumi...there are one
or two other brand of drives that will use the sound blaster interface,
but I cannot remember the names...maybe you should give Creative labs a
call at (408) 428-6622 FAX (408) 428-6633.  These numbers are for sound
blaster technical support from a manual dated May '92/

    WinQwk 2.0 a#0


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From: GIL MACHIN                             Number: 2920
  To: NATE LAWSON                              Date: 08/05/93  9:22a
Subj: 7th guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Think Hard Now!  Which One is Shinola?

NL>I am very interested in the 7th Guest CD.  The lowest price 
NL>I have seen has been $49 through mail order.  Anyone have a 
NL>used version?  Seen a lower price?


In Kansas City Mo. Sam's Club Warehouse has it for $45 plus some change. 
This is about $5 Cheaper that anyware else in town. 
                                                     Gil

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2921
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 08/05/93 10:18a
Subj: WHOLESALING & RETAILING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > -> Hi there,  do you have Space Quest 4/Kings Quest for abouut 35.00?
 > Yes we do... S/H is $2 via Canada Post... give Michellea or
 > myself a
 > call at 306-789-4654. You can also order online on our BBS at
 > 306-789-8682 or fax us at 306-789-8690.
 >    Vince
 > --- The Mail Box [NR]

AHHHH!!  Sorry,  I wish I would have bought it from you...  Your Shipping is
much cheaper.  I just got it from Doug Carpenter.   But hey,  What other games
do you have along the line of those two.  I am a very Avid game player.  Also
do you have any Encyclopedias for sale.

                                Opps. Darren Sellner


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From: ALAN WILLIAMS                          Number: 2922
  To: RICH JACKSON                             Date: 07/19/93 12:02p
Subj: TERRY WOODWARD                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Up to your old tricks Michael??  How did you go from no kids to three
-> kids in the last year?

EMFBI, three ladies and a busy social schedule??? ;-))

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From: YVES DESJARDINS                        Number: 2923
  To: JOHN MORRISON                            Date: 08/05/93  6:41a
Subj: Battlechess-enhanced mode               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello John!

02 Aug 93 08:36, John Morrison wrote to All:

 JM> I am writing this for a friend who doesn't have a modem. He is looking
 JM> for "BATTLECHESS"-enhanced mode, on CDrom. Would anyone who sells it
 JM> please E-mail me a price including shipping  to Winnipeg MB.


I have the CD that he is looking for.  I would be willing to trade it for
something else.  Can you check with him and find out what he has for trade.

Thanks...

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 2924
  To: ALEX MAHAN                               Date: 08/05/93 11:07a
Subj: NIGHTOWL                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Has anybody seen nightowl 8 or 9 going cheap? I need a good cd-rom
-> with everthing on it (actually my dad does) but I havent seen them
-> for iunder $30. Thanks for any input, Alex

   How about $35Cdn (about $25 US)?

   Vince
   (306)789-4654
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2925
  To: MICHAEL MULCAHY                          Date: 08/05/93 10:45a
Subj: Re: CDROM Specials                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>      BO> American Premier          Officers Bookcase
>>      Canadian Shareware BO> Between Heaven & Hell 2
>>      Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler TaxPrep BO> '93'
>>      Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena Golden Immortal BO>
>>      Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room Mother Earth II
>>       Quick BO> Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8 Chicano Datebase
>>         PC-SIG Games BO> LaserTax On CD Phoenix # 3
>>      Jokes&Pranks BO> Learning Adventure Business Assistant
>>      World Travler BO> Sound Sensation DeathStar Arcade
>>      Colossal CookBook BO> ClipArt Goliath Technotools
>>      Our Solar System BO> Windoware BO>

>>    Boris, which of these are MAC compatible?...m2

None of the above...sorry !!

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2926
  To: ZACH WELBURN                             Date: 08/05/93 10:45a
Subj: Re: CDROM Specials                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    hey i am interested in between heaven and hell 2
>>    phoenix #3
>>    shareware studio2 if you still have them let me know

Yes we do......

Give us a call at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to help you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Which comes first, the chicken or the egg?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2927
  To: RON RICHMOND                             Date: 08/05/93 10:45a
Subj: Re: Disk                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Hi Boris, Did you recieve my order on Sat. July 30 for Busty
>>    Babes 1.? I left it on your electronic order desk. Thanks,
>>     Ron.

Yes, but I didn't send it as maybe you thought it would be a low cost
cd. The current bid on this cd is $300. so I didn't think you wanted me
to charge you card with that amount.

Thanks....

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2928
  To: LARRY CHARPIAT                           Date: 08/05/93 10:45a
Subj: Re: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Can the Pioneer six disk changers access the six different CD
>>    ROM disk through a BBS menu with a software switch or command?

If you mean, can the Pioneer access all six cd's at the same time,
the answer ot that is no. You can only access one cd at a time. That's
why sysops use doors, which allows thier users to view the filebase
first and then one user at a time can go into a download mode.

If you need futher assistance, please call us at 216-225-3263 anytime
and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2929
  To: DON HANCOCK                              Date: 08/05/93 10:45a
Subj: Re: Red Hot Summer                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>>$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

BO>> ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec

>>        Boris, MORE info!! Date? Size? Menu system? Languages
>>        supported? Source code? Or just utilities?
>>            I'm VERY interested in any programming CD's.
>>        Expecially xBase and C/C++.

This has everything you meantioned above and covers every programming code
out there. It has source codes, routines, text files, articials and more.
Almost 400+ megs with over 15,000 files on it and is BBS ready.

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist
you further.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 2930
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/05/93 11:40a
Subj: Southern Beauties                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

********** NEW ADULT CD ROM RELEASE - SOUTHERN BEAUTIES **********

Fully Copyrighted and Licensed - 1000 GIFs 1024x768x256 from original 35MM
slides - Installs quickly and easily - Menu Driven - Sound Blaster Front -
Multi Directory Slide Show - 300 Meg of the BEST IMAGES in True Color 24 BIT
TIFF format - OVER 675 MEG of PRUE STIMULATING VIEWING PLEASURE.

To Order Call - Tradeshows Inc. 1-317-651-9848  
 
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From: DON DEMAERE                            Number: 2931
  To: JASON SAUVE                              Date: 08/05/93  8:57a
Subj: CD's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Recently you offered:

 JS> Title                                    Disk Sizes  Gfx    Price (CDN)
 JS> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 JS> CorelDraw 3.0 For Windows                *CD-ROM*    SVGA  $200.00

You can get this same program new from Future Shop for $179 (CDN). You want
$200 for a used version. I don't think so...

Don

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From: SCOTT MORITZ                           Number: 2932
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/05/93 12:50a
Subj: Grid Laptop computer                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For sale:  Grid 386/33 laptop with mono VGA graphics
           130 meg hard drive
           1.44 floppy
           LPT/SERIAL/mouse/keyboard/monitor/Bus ports
           Built in mouse
           internal 9600/9600 modem/FAX
           Full size keyboard

   I bought this computer for work, but ended up not having any need for
it...hehe  Thus, I need to sell it.

Asking:  $1725

   I will through in 2nd day air shipment.  COD or prepay only

Any questions, or to purchase call 866-3001 anytime

   If you get the dreaded answering machine, just leave a message with your
name and number and I will return your call ASAP.

Scott


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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 2933
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/04/93  1:45p
Subj: Re: Review of Pork-Ware I               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Bob Jackson to All <=-

 BJ> Bottom line: at best there's about 12 "new" files on this CD. 
 BJ> That makes them cost about $2 each at current street prices. 
 BJ> Given that, the very high re-hash factor, and the mixed-up file
 BJ> listings, I can't recommend PW2 as a good value.  Any of the
 BJ> comparison CDs would be a much better choice.

Hey, THANKS! you've done us that don't have access to 'impartial'
reviews a great service.  No telling what's on the CD till you get it
and then it's too late.  I can save my money for some really good
stuff, now.































 BJ> ... deny thy father and forget thy tagline.
 BJ> -!- Blue Wave/RA v2.10
 BJ>  ! Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 | 
 BJ> (1:106/30.0) 
 BJ> -!- Via Mosaic v0.99/l



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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 2934
  To: JACK HUDDLE                              Date: 08/05/93  4:53p
Subj: NEW Corel ArtShow 3 CD &                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jack-

I sold this one, but I may have another soon.
I'll let you know.

Thanks,
Bob


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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 2935
  To: STEVE KISER                              Date: 08/05/93  4:55p
Subj: NEW Corel ArtShow 3 CD &                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Steve-

I sold this one - if I get another, I'll contact you.

Thanks,
Bob

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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2936
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 08/06/93  4:50a
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Got some CDRoms I don't need anymore...
Some CDRoms for sale:

Source -- Gobs of C code                 $20.00   (MAR 92)
C User's Group  -- More Gobs of C code   $20.00   (OCT 92)
GIFs Galore -- 630 Megs of GIFs          $20.00   (1st ED)
CICA Windows -- 540 Megs of Windows      $15.00   (NOV 92)
Simtel -- over 600 Megs of DOS           $15.00   (DEC 92)
CDRom News Vol.1 Iss.2 -- NEXT/LINUX     $15.00
CDRom News Vol.1 Iss.3 -- NEXT/LINUX     $15.00
Hobbes OS/2 -- tons o' OS/2              $15.00   (NOV 92)
Postage and Insurance is $5.00 per order, 2nd day priority shipping.
I will ship COD.  Add $5.00 per order for COD charges.

Send checks/money orders to, and/or feel free to contact:

Eric Bravick
USF 3008
4202 E. Fowler Ave.
Tampa, FL. 33620-3008

(813) 979-1323 (Voice)
(813) 977-5212 (BBS)
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2937
  To: DON HANCOCK                              Date: 08/06/93  4:51a
Subj: Programming CD's                        Refer: NONE
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>> Looing for any programming CD's. New, used, doesn't matter as long as
>> they're readable. Prefer C, C++, Xbase. Source code, libraries,
>> etc.....

    Here is a list of CDs that I have for sale.  The Source and CUG are
both excellent C C++ disks.

Some CDRoms for sale:

Source -- Gobs of C code                 $20.00   (MAR 92)
C User's Group  -- More Gobs of C code   $20.00   (OCT 92)
GIFs Galore -- 630 Megs of GIFs          $20.00   (1st ED)
CICA Windows -- 540 Megs of Windows      $15.00   (NOV 92)
Simtel -- over 600 Megs of DOS           $15.00   (DEC 92)
CDRom News Vol.1 Iss.2 -- NEXT/LINUX     $15.00
CDRom News Vol.1 Iss.3 -- NEXT/LINUX     $15.00
Hobbes OS/2 -- tons o' OS/2              $15.00   (NOV 92)
feel free to contact me:
Eric Bravick
USF 3008
4202 E. Fowler Ave.
Tampa, FL. 33620-3008

(813) 979-1323 (Voice)
(813) 977-5212 (BBS)
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From: BRETT PARKER                           Number: 2938
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 08/05/93 12:37p
Subj: Mitsumi under OS/2                      Refer: NONE
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Chris Kuefler scribbled in a message to All:

CK> Can someone tell me what it takes to install a Mitsumi LU005
CK> under OS2? Is it even possible? What is needed?

Try contacting Huw Upshall at 1:138/301. I believe he is running one under OS/2
v2.1...

--Brett

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 2939
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 07/30/93  8:18a
Subj: Audio Cables                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RD>Does anyone know a good source for audio cables? I need a cable to go from a
RD>Sony CDU-31A to a Soundblaster Pro. I also need a cable to go from a
RD>Mitsumi/Tandy Cd-ROm to it's controller card. Any help is appreciated...

   Ryan, I have been trying to find one to go from my Texel to PAS 16.

   If you find a source for yours please let me know.
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 2940
  To: SHAWN MAY                                Date: 07/30/93  8:23a
Subj: The Software Toolworks Mu               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SM>    Anyone interested in "The software toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia,
SM>comes with a little manual, lookif for 40$ OBO..

   My BO is $20 including shipping.
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 2941
  To: JOHN ANDERSON                            Date: 07/31/93 10:58a
Subj: CD-ROMs For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JA>Used CD-ROMs For Sale:

JA>    Infocom Treasure Chest - $20

       Tell me what is in the disk please?

       For now I'll offer $10 plus $2.90 shipping.

       Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 2942
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 08/02/93  1:47p
Subj: 4sale or trade                          Refer: NONE
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GE>SP> I have the following items for sale or trade.

GE>SP>LOOM---CD-ROM game--real voices and cool music

GE>   Pick one of the following for a trade:

GE> ...........................................................
GE> COMRADE - New from Lightbulb Logic - 5¬" & 3«"
GE>    Play Tetris, Welltris or Faces with your mouse
GE>    or Trackball. Adjust game speed, gain control,
GE>    and raise your score.
GE> ...........................................................
GE> Tetris by Spectrum Holobyte
GE> Hoyle Book of Games - Volume 1 (no inner box)
GE> SUPERSTAR INDOOR SPORTS - two 5¬ disks (shrink wrapped)
GE> MEAN 18 FAMOUS COURSE DISK II by Acolade - 5¬ disk
GE> JIGSAW - 5¬" disk complete
GE> Lotus 1-2-3 Release 1a
GE> Quicken Ver 4 & Financial Pack Ver 1 for DOS
GE> Copy II PC Version 6  3«"
GE> Lotus Works Release 1.0 3«" disks
GE> DOS 4.01
GE> DOS 2.1
GE> Managing Your Money (v8) - 3«" disks shrinkwrap
GE> Managing Your Money (v5)  - 3« disks - no box
GE> Condor Database (it's an old but great one)
GE> IBM DisplayWrite Assistant
GE> IBM Writing Assistant
GE> IBM Filing Assistant
GE> IBM Information Organizer - great package
GE> IBM Assistant Home Solutions - 1984 - 5¬" disk
GE> DBase III Handbook by Cue      Looks brand new
GE> Professional Editor by IBM - shrink wrapped & old
GE> Word Proof by IBM - shrink wrapped & old    5¬"
GE> IBM Personal Telephone Manager V1.0 1985    5¬"
GE> Microsoft Windows 3.0 Resource Kit from Microsoft
GE> IBM PC DOS 3.2 (minus supplemental diskette)
GE> Perfect Calc - Spreadsheet
GE> Perfect Writer - word processor
GE> Perfect Speller - spell check
GE> Menu Planner - IBM or MAC
GE> Weight Loss Planner - IBM or MAC
GE> 4Word The Add in Word Processor for Lotus 1-2-3
GE> ............................................................
GE> Gene Ehrich - P.O. Box 209 - Marlton NJ 08053-0209
GE>---
GE> þ QMPro 1.02 41-4216 þ Liar:  One who tells an unpleasant truth.
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 2943
  To: JIM HUSBAND                              Date: 08/02/93  1:48p
Subj: FOR TRADE - MAGAZINE RACK               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GE>JH>    I'd like to trade Magazine Rack (1991) for another CD-ROM. I no
GE>JH>longer have any interest in MR, so I will consider almost any CD.
GE>JH>I'll also be glad to sell it, but since I'm not a dealer, payment
GE>JH>would need to be by check/MO.

GE>   $9 including shipping (firm) is offered.
GE>---
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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 2944
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 08/04/93 10:46p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
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On 07-28-93  17:57 Jerry Murphy shared these words of wisdom: 

 JM> There are a couple ways of making life a bit easier, I've found.  You
 JM> can save the article, F8 seems to be a popular way with them, and then
 JM> edit it afterwards with your favorite editor/word-cruncher routine. 
 JM> Or, you could save it as an article and use Vern Buerg's LIST.COM to
 JM> find and collect the portion. You might also locate the file by using
 JM> GREP on the list of files to locate directly the filename, bypassing
 JM> the engine, and then editing a copy of that file; this involves
 JM> expertise of working from the command line, which is often a terrible
 JM> experience for some folks.  I've not found a different method that was
 JM> acceptable, and will be curious to learn if you discover one. 

If the files are pure text (I have to admit, I haven't taken the time to
look at the Bureau CD to see if that's the case), there are other
search-engines that can be applied to them - I've written some myself and
have access to others. A quick & dirty little utility I wrote lets me take
a file with a list of search terms and apply it to a file to be searched
(usually a collection of files that have beeen concatenated). The program
spits out a file in which all the designated search strings are uppercased
for easy recognition. Another program of mine accepts boolean searches
and outputs all paragraphs which meet the stated criteria.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2945
  To: MIKE WALKER                              Date: 08/05/93  8:13p
Subj: Looking                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MW> Is there such a CD-ROM out there with just Celebrities?  I don't  
 MW>                                                                   
 MW> they are riskey (sp?)                                             
                                                                       
  
I think the spelling is "risque" but not to worry! I'm not aware of a 
celebrity-only CD 'tho several (incl. Busty Babes) have quite a few on 
them. You might try The MOVIE BBS - they specialize in celeb. pics. 
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From: DANNY BRIGANCE                         Number: 2946
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 08/06/93  1:33p
Subj: Encyclopedia                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Darren!

Wednesday August 04 1993, Darren Sellner writes to All:

 DS> Does Anyone have a Encyclopedia NEW or in good condition for less that
 DS> $35?

I have the Grolier Encyclopedia v5.0 brand new with the registration and
everything.  How about $20 you pay the shipping.  Let me know.  Call me voice
at (817)568-1341 before noon.  Later.....

Danny

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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 2947
  To: ALLAN KENNEDY                            Date: 08/04/93  1:06p
Subj: WANT TO SWAP                            Refer: NONE
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AK> I would like to get a faster cd-rom. I have the folowing items to 
AK> trade.1. mitsumi cd-rom 800 ms 8 months old w/8bit card & cables

I'll make an offer of $75.00 on the 800ms cd-rom drive Allen. 

-Joe 

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2948
  To: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                        Date: 08/05/93  8:20p
Subj: ADULT CD'S                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JG>I'm interested in Afterdark Trilogy ($45). And Seedy-ROM movie disc also
($45
JG>Is there sound to these? and what resolution do they appear in?
JG>I'd like to know if you accept moneyorders. If so ten I'll make a descision
JG>between the two...maybe even both.

Jerry,

We have both in stock, and each has SoundBlaster/Adlib support.  Resolution
is around 320x200 w/ the video portion only taking part of the screen.
Call any time if we can help you further!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2949
  To: ALEX MAHAN                               Date: 08/05/93  8:20p
Subj: Nightowl                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AM>Has anybody seen nightowl 8 or 9 going cheap? I need a good cd-rom with
AM>everthing on it (actually my dad does) but I havent seen them for iunder
AM>$30. Thanks for any input, Alex

Alex,

We have both in stock at $25 each.  Plus, you can get a 600mb "mystery" CD
for $6 w/ the purchase if you wish.  (It's Phoenix 3.0)

Call any time,

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2950
  To: ZACH WELBURN                             Date: 08/05/93  8:20p
Subj: CD'S ON SALE!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ZW>DO YOU HAVE SHAREWARE OVERLOAD LEFT I AM INTERESTED IN BUYING IF YOU STILL
HA
ZW>IT

Yes Zach, all you want at $10 each.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2951
  To: JOHN MORRISON                            Date: 08/05/93  8:20p
Subj: Battlechess-enhanced mode               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JM>I am writing this for a friend who doesn't have a modem. He is looking
JM>for
JM>"BATTLECHESS"-enhanced mode, on CDrom.

John,

We stock Battlechess Enhanced at $32.  Airmail insured to Canada would be
$5.75.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2952
  To: MIKE WALKER                              Date: 08/05/93  8:20p
Subj: Looking                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MW>Is there such a CD-ROM out there with just Celebrities?  I don't mind if
MW>they are riskey (sp?)

Mike,

Don't know of one that is exclusively celebs, but Busty Babes 2.0 has a
whole directory devoted to that topic.  $33 while they last . . . .

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2953
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/05/93  8:20p
Subj: Review of Pork-Ware II (c               Refer: NONE
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BJ>     about $2 each at current street prices.  Given that, the very high
BJ>     re-hash factor, and the mixed-up file listings, I can't recommend PW2
BJ>     as a good value.  Any of the comparison CDs would be a much better
BJ>     choice.

Oh well, can't win 'em all I guess.  This is why I send them to you Bob,
because I frankly don't have the time to scrutinize these CD's.  Good
review anyway!  I'll probably still recommend this CD to users who don't
have a collection built yet, or who have very few adult CD's.  Probably
a good starter, wouldn't you say?

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2954
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/05/93  8:20p
Subj: A FEW CHESTNUTS LEFT! 1/2               Refer: NONE
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             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
                                pg. 1 of 2

   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

TITLES INCLUDE:

1. THE COMPLETE BOOKSHOP - An entire bookshop on CD! Includes classics,
   poetry, humor, cookbooks, American history and founding documents, novels,
   short stories, home improvement guides, computer tutors, and more!

2. WINDOWARE - An excellent disc packed with tons of useful programs for
   Windows 3.0 and 3.1, including typefonts, font installers, games, home
   and business applications, education, wallpaper, utilities, etc.

3. SOUND SENSATIONS! - Adds multimedia excitement to your system!  Includes
   tons of sound effects, music files, jukeboxes, voices, sound clips,
   music voices, etc. in a variety of file formats.

4. TECHNOTOOLS - A programmer's dream disc! Routines, utilities, debuggers,
   troubleshooters, and other programming tools for C/C++, dBase, Clipper,
   Basic, Assembler, AI, Unix, OS/2, Pascal, Forth, and more!

5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,
   thesauruses, word-processors, style/syntax/spell checkers, glossaries,
   crossword solvers, foreign language tutors . . . on and on!

6. DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLES - Exciting arcade action games: Space wars,
   shoot-em-ups, auto racing, sports, casino gambling, horse and auto
   racing, and more. The fast action will entertain you for years!

7. TOO MANY TYPEFONTS! - Countless typefonts in all formats:  TrueType,
   ATM, Adobe Type 1, WFN, First Publisher, Ghostscript, HPL, etc. Also
   includes typeface modifiers, font managers, downloaders, & utilities.

 ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  So Much Shareware 3 only
 $25 with any Chestnut purchase!

            >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

 Hurry though, our stock on these is almost depleted, and once it's gone,
 back to the regular price!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2955
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/05/93  8:20p
Subj: A FEW CHESTNUTS LEFT! 2/2               Refer: NONE
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             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
                                pg. 2 of 2

   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

TITLES INCLUDE:

8.  CLIPART GOLIATH - Over 10,000 image files in PCX and TIF formats, plus
    some in color-TIF/PCX, MAC, GIF, etc. Files can be imported to virtually
    every desktop publishing program! Subjects include: Americana, Animals,
    Business, Computing, Entertainment, Food, Holiday, Music, People,
    Religion, Science & Medicine, Signs, Sports, Cartoons, & many more.

9.  HAM RADIO 3.0 - Excellent collection of HAM and SWL programs and data!
    Includes packet radio, satellite communications, frequency lists,
    equipment service, design, mods, logging, news, FAX, FCC, & others.

10. COLOSSAL COOKBOOK - Over 4000 recipes, far more than the "Joy of
    Cooking".  Includes excellent recipe cross-reference and search!
    Includes health/nutrition guides, ethnic and regional recipes, meal
    planning, low-cholesterol diets, cooking instructions, & more!

11. BIBLES & RELIGION - All popular New & Old Testament versions, Book of
    Mormon, Talmud portions, lexicons & concordances, study guides,
    organization membership & fund-raising programs, etc.

12. SHAREWARE OVERLOAD - Over 6100 programs (550mb compressed) for all
    applications, with an emphasis on games and Windows programs.  Subjects
    include business, clipart, communications, BBS, database, education,
    finance, games, graphics, religion, sound, utilities, Windows, & more!

13. OUR SOLAR SYSTEM - Exciting NASA and observatory photos of the planets,
    moons, comets, earth, and celestial phenomena!  Includes star locators,
    planetarium programs, astronomical data, voyage simulators, + tons more.

 ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  So Much Shareware 3 only
 $25 with any Chestnut purchase!

            >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

 Hurry though, our stock on these is almost depleted, and once it's gone,
 back to the regular price!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2956
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/05/93  8:20p
Subj: BUSTY 3.0 IS HERE!!  $25                Refer: NONE
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___________________________________________________________________________
                    |                                  |
                    O                                  O
                    |                                  |
                +------------------------------------------+
                |  INTRODUCING . . . . . . .               |
                |                                          |
                |       B U S T Y   B A B E S   3.0        |
                |                                          |
                |                 $25.00                   |
                |                                          |
                | She's back, she's better, she's . . . .  |
                | BUSTY BABES 3.0!                         |
                |                                          |
                | New interface + new sizzling pictures!   |
                | Get yours now!  Limited time offer with  |
                | limited quantities.    **  H  O  T  **   |
                +------------------------------------------+

 SPECIAL BONUS:  Get the PowerPak Gold 3.0 shareware CD for only $10
                 additional w/ purchase! (Made by Busty's creators)

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2957
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/05/93  8:23p
Subj: POST?                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris,
 
One of my customers said you posted a message to me?  If so, please
repost it because I didn't receive it.  If not, sorry to bother you.
 
Later,
.\\ike
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From: JOHN RICHARDSON                        Number: 2958
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/05/93  6:58p
Subj: Cd-rom system??                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I dont know if this is the area to put this. but here goes

does anyone know who make a good cd-rom drive?for a good price and what is the
average price of a drive? John


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From: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                       Number: 2959
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 08/06/93  4:27p
Subj: TCM Newsletter...                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Ray!

Please put me on your mailing list:

Jeff Collingwood
1942 Rowley Av
Ramona, CA 92065

Thanks!
...Jeff...

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2960
  To: DAN APPLEHANS                            Date: 08/05/93  6:44a
Subj: Matsushita CD-Rom drive w               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I am searching for a matsushita cd-rom drive.  Actually, I am searchi
-> any drive that will interface with A creative Labs SoundBlaster pro.
AKA Panasonic...

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2961
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/05/93  5:36p
Subj: MPC Programs                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HI!
I just got a CD-ROM drive, and I am looking for some MPC titles.
Can anyone give me some suggestions on Encyclopedias, Educational etc..
Any help will be greatly appreciated!

Thanks, Henry

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: MARK MAREAN                            Number: 2962
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 08/05/93  9:05p
Subj: Encyclopedia                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Does Anyone have a Encyclopedia NEW or in good condition for less tha
->

sure, take mine...you can have Volume A, or B, or C...


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From: BRIAN STARK                            Number: 2963
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/06/93  5:41a
Subj: adult cds                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    In your personal opinion, what adult cd do you think has the most wierd,
strange, and unusual files on it. (Not counting TXT files) It can be XXX. 
                         thanks.

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 2964
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/05/93  9:17a
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the info
              Sam Figueroa

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From: BOB TRUBE                              Number: 2965
  To: QMAIL                                    Date: 08/06/93  7:58a
Subj: DROP                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Add, Drop, or Reset a Conference.
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From: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                       Number: 2966
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 08/05/93  2:43a
Subj: Re: TCM/Night Owl Newsletter.           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Greg Kwiatkowski
187 Olean St
East Aurora, NY
14052-2521


Thanks!

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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 2967
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/06/93 11:02p
Subj: Groliers Encyclopedia                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in purchasing the Groliers Multimedia Encyclopedia (MacIntosh
Version) to be utilized on an Apple CD300 CD-ROM.  Additionally I am interested
in procurring Microsoft Bookshelf.  Pls forward price quotes to :
Internet: michael.mulcahy@his.com...or
Netmail: 1:109/70.986

Tks...m2

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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 2968
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/07/93 12:59a
Subj: US History CD-ROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in purchasing the US History CD-ROM in a MacIntosh Format to be
used in APPLE CD300 Player.  Pls forward any quotes to this conference or
Internet: michael.mulcahy@his.com

Tks...m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 2969
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/07/93  1:03a
Subj: Earth Sciences CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in procurring reference material that surrounds Earth Sciences.
 Primarily, Geological information that high school students could utilize. 
Hardware to be utilized is Apple CD300 CD-ROM Player.  Please forward any
qoutes to this echo or via Internet: michael.mulcahy@his.com
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 2970
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/04/93  8:26a
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>Great! I'm assuming that the new GUI will be D/L-able from your BBS for
owner 
BJ>of the current release (?) . 
 
The new GUI is both freq'able and d/l-able on your first call.  The file you
are 
looking for is called WBOXFIX.ZIP.  It will take care of the problems... 
 
Later! 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
The CD PowerBox Guys! 
 
 
 * OLX 2.1 TD * The NEGOTIATOR has SPOKEN! (510)830-5043 1:161/205 
- JetMail v1.12 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire
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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 2971
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/06/93  7:19p
Subj: Re: New hard drives                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (04 Aug 93) HENRY PAUL wrote to PAUL SEDILLO...

 HP> ->  QD> Is the Western Digital really that much faster than the
 HP> Maxtor?
 HP> ->  QD> is the throughput on each drive?
 HP> ->
 HP> -> Western Digital from what the trade rags say, is on it's last
 HP> -> leg. As far as the WD2340 being faster than the 7345A, that is
 HP> The Wertern Digital has a bigger cache than Maxtor.
 HP> Seagate drives have more cache and 5400 rpms on their 340mb drive..
 HP> the others have around 3600rpms.
 HP> 

I did not know that! Thanks for the info. As for the Seagate
goes, I am not surprised.



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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 2972
  To: RICK MISCAVISH                           Date: 08/06/93  7:20p
Subj: Wanted Hard Drive(s)                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (04 Aug 93) Rick Miscavish wrote to Paul Sedillo...

 RM>  PS> -=- Seagate ST4766
 RM>  PS> -=- 660MB
 RM>  PS> -=- Full Height
 RM>  PS> -=- 14ms/SCSI
 RM>  PS> -=- $800.00
 RM>  PS> We Accept MasterCard/Visa, plus we will ship COD.
 RM>  PS> -!- PPoint 1.35
 RM>  PS>  ! Origin: -=- The Storage Specialists -=- (1:104/332.21)
 RM> 

 RM> Always IN-2000 scsi card. So far things look allright fora 660 meg
 RM> hard drive 
 RM> for a price like that. TTYL and hope maybe we can do some business
 RM> together.

That Always card is an excellent choice. Glad to see that you
picked out a good one. I sell a great deal of those cards.


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2973
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/06/93 10:36a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <08-01-93 11:32> Blaine Richard wrote:

BR>> What do you have to say Ms. Lee Noga

FYI, FLD has undergone some rigourous litigation since April and you will be
interested to know you, as an "Executive Producer", makes you party to the
*CURRENT* and *ALL* forthcoming lawsuits. So if your goal is to start trouble
in the industry, realize you will be faced with the same consequences as I. 
Don't take my word for it, call the 'Go Graphics' forum, and ask for Mr. Wood
at (407)658-2687. Both he and their attorney have expressed a keen interest in
speaking with you.

What do you have to say Mr. Blaine R. Richard the III ? Call Mr. Wood, and show
the world that you have some redeeming qualities--

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2974
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/06/93 11:25a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <08-01-93 11:32> Blaine Richard wrote:

BR>> Lee what about all the remaining images on Busty Babes the entire
BR>> disc is a total copyright violation not one images on that disc do
BR>> you have licensing rights to so there for the disc is still in
BR>> violation of copyright and any distributor that sells it has the
BR>> possibility of getting nailed for sell and distribution of
BR>> copyrighted material...

Not true ! Obviously, you have yet to spend any money with a copyright
attorney--Copyright law was enacted to protect those things that have redeeming
value--The US Gov't does not feel pornography has redeeming value, via
intellectual property laws--Therefore it does not succumb to the laws of
copyright--

You have clearly illustrated your desire to defamate/slander FLD, and I suggest
you cap it, bub !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 2975
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/05/93 12:11a
Subj: Need Information Finder Encyclopedia CD-ROM  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for the Information Finder Encyclopedia (World Bood Encyclopedia)
CD-ROM disc if anyone has it for sale or trade.


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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 2976
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 08/05/93 12:16a
Subj: TCM Newsletter...                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send info about Night Owl discs to:  Peter Dettelis, 9250 Pine Cone Rd.,
Colorado Springs, CO 80908-2214.
Thanks.


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From: MICHAEL WEST                           Number: 2977
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/05/93  8:56p
Subj: Re: CD PRICE LIST 2/2                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike,
  Which release of the Hobbes OS/2 disk do you carry?
                        Michael
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From: CJ LUBNER                              Number: 2978
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/05/93  8:07a
Subj: Computer Show - Aug 22                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

=================================================================|
|                         COMPUTER SHOW                          |
||                    SUNDAY - AUG 22, 1993                      |
||                       RADISSON HOTEL                          |
||                       NEW LONDON, CT                          |
||                        10:00 - 4:00                           |
||                     exit 83 off I-95.                         |
||                FOR MORE INFO (203)648-0867                    |
||       1/2 PRICE ADMISSION $2.00 COMPARED TO $4.00             |
||                 WITH THIS PRINTED MESSAGE                     |
|==================================================================
.TABLES ARE STILL AVAILABLE IF YOU WISH TO SET UP A TABLE......   WE
ARE LOOKING FOR A FEW USER GROUPS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SET UP A TABLEAND
PROMOTE THERE ORGANIZATION....

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2979
  To: PAUL SEDILLO                             Date: 08/05/93  2:30p
Subj: Distrib. wanted.                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PS> The Storage Specialists 9400 W. 51st Avenue Arvada CO 80002 Atten:
PS> Paul Sedillo

PS> Our specialty is storage devices (Hard Drives, CD-Roms...). We also
PS> specialize in the whole eSoft, TBBS product line if you need that
PS> product as well.

OK, Paul, I'm interested.....

PandA's PC's
11 Wayside Drive
Danvers, MA 01923-3453

Ph: (508) 750-6600 FAX: (508) 777-3404

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2980
  To: ALEX MAHAN                               Date: 08/05/93  2:30p
Subj: Nightowl                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AM> Has anybody seen nightowl 8 or 9 going cheap? I need a good cd-rom
AM> with everthing on it (actually my dad does) but I havent seen them
AM> for iunder $30. Thanks for any input, Alex

 NIGHTOWLV9 CDS - Night Owl shareware CD, Version 9     25.00

 PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600
 Mastercard & Visa accepted. Posted on 08/05/93, @ 11:34.



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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2981
  To: JOHN MORRISON                            Date: 08/06/93  9:23a
Subj: Battlechess-enhanced mode               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JM> I am writing this for a friend who doesn't have a modem. He is
JM> looking for "BATTLECHESS"-enhanced mode, on CDrom. Would anyone who
JM> sells it please E-mail me a price including shipping  to Winnipeg
JM> MB.

 BATTLECHES CDG - Battle Chess Enhanced                 30.00

How much would shipping to Manitoba be? I don't know. (Probably about $10.00,
or less, I hope!).

Pat

 PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600
 Mastercard & Visa accepted. Posted on 08/06/93, @ 09:25.


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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2982
  To: DICK HUDDLESTON                          Date: 08/06/93  8:32a
Subj: Your order                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DH> I just today received the message (Sat 7-31).  My office nr. is

Got it, Dick. Your order will go out Mon.

Pat

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From: MIKE WALKER                            Number: 2983
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/07/93 11:12p
Subj: Re: Looking                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>  MW> Is there such a CD-ROM out there with just Celebrities?  I don't
>  MW>
>  MW> they are riskey (sp?)
> I think the spelling is "risque" but not to worry! I'm not aware of a
> celebrity-only CD 'tho several (incl. Busty Babes) have quite a few on
> them. You might try The MOVIE BBS - they specialize in celeb. pics.
I know I'm already a member of that BBS, just wish they would come out 
with a CDROM with all the goodies...

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From: TOM PENLAND                            Number: 2984
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/07/93  4:43p
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HELLO, I'm going to buy a CD-ROM for my computer in the near
future and I was hoping some one could tell me what to look for, the best
one to buy and why.   Thanks

                        Tom


... ARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! ... Tension breaker, had to be done.
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From: CURT LARSON                            Number: 2985
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 08/07/93  5:49p
Subj: Cd-roms drive cables                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Perhaps I have forgotten, but I was thinking that the cables were 6to be
included in those CD-ROMs.  please leave message here or call me at
(816)229-9530.  Thanks.

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From: ART BREAULT                            Number: 2986
  To: RON MITCHELL                             Date: 08/07/93  9:01a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Ron I have a mitsumi internal cd drive. I had some proplems with
some programs due to memory.One the cd there is a operating program that
must become resident in memory. Make sure that your system meets all
reguiremnts in the area of hardware other than just the cd rom. What is
your buffer amount, some cds are hard to access if you have this setting
to low. Some cds even require a certian access time, if they do they list
it on the box. Make sure you have enough base memory.If you can load cd
driver in high memory. Increase buffer to max. Make sure you have most 
current driver upgrade. Then make sure the operating software on cd can
be handled by your other computer hardware. If the operations file needs
575k in lower memory and you have only 517k then as in a floppy you can
access cetain files and exicute certain functions but if the operations
file doesn't load then the language will not be available for certian
operations and certain files. 
Finnaly when all your hair is gone then try booting with a floppy
and not using your hard drive at all. after booting of dos floppy try
accessing cd rom. Only dos operating file and cd drivers will be in memory
if this solves the problem then you have a conflict in your config or
autoexec file. My cd rom drivers are not memory resedent at boot. I use a
menu program that I have set up to load drivers independently of boot.
that saves me base memory.  Lastly read the rom box make sure your system
meets all requirements. If all else fails shoot system and call insurance
company.(grin)


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From: ALLAN KENNEDY                          Number: 2987
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 08/07/93 12:04p
Subj: WANT TO SWAP                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > AK> I would like to get a faster cd-rom. I have the folowing items to
 > AK> trade.1. mitsumi cd-rom 800 ms 8 months old w/8bit card & cables

 > I'll make an offer of $75.00 on the 800ms cd-rom drive Allen.

 > -Joe
 Joe I appreciate the offer, but I am hopeing to trade all listed plus maybe a
little booty for a faster cd. thanks for the reply
"BIG AL"

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From: ALLAN KENNEDY                          Number: 2988
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/07/93 12:10p
Subj: WANT TO SWAP                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Forwarded from "#037 CDROM_SALE                         "
 * Originally by Allan Kennedy
 * Originally to ALL
 * Originally dated 2 Aug 1993, 16:53

I would like to get a faster cd-rom. I have the folowing items to trade.
1. mitsumi cd-rom 800 ms 8 months old w/8bit card & cables
2. generic super vga card w/512 k mem unused
3. generic 2400 internal modem used
4. segate st238r rll hard drive 33 mb unused (no rails)
5. western digital wd1002a-27x rll controller w/cables unused
6. ms doss 5 still in shrink wrap (archie technologies)
7. ms windows 3.1 shrink pack opened disk pack never opened.

I would prefer less than 400 ms must be complete with all cables and card. If
you are interested leave me a message here or net mail me at 1:2602/120
I am willing to throw in some cash with the above for the right drive.

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2989
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/07/93  6:44p
Subj: CDROM Drives                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



SCSI CDROMs For Sale:

Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00

Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac.  Features 50 Pin True SCSI, 
300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and 64k Buffer.
Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty

205-837-5053 anytime.




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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2990
  To: LARRY CHARPIAT                           Date: 08/03/93 10:44a
Subj: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LC>Can the Pioneer six disk changers access the six different CD ROM disk 
  >through a BBS menu with a software switch or command? 
 
Hi Larry.  I am currently running the Pioneer 604X on my Spitfire BBS 
with 6 discs online.  I am using SF-Rom as my door.  This works great 
due to the features built into the door program.  Multi-node BBSes are 
supported, and if a second caller tries to access the drive while the 
first is on it, he will receive a busy signal to prevent the drive from 
swapping back and forth between disks.  The author, Mike Robinson, 
recently released a new version for any BBS that uses the door.sys user 
info file.  The name of the file is EZROM120.ZIP and can be downloaded 
from Computer Works on the first call.  The Spitfire version is called 
SFROM120.zip.  The CD-Rom door that you choose to run CD's from is very 
important. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 14.4k 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2991
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  1:00p
Subj: Computer Works                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Computer Works BBS is online 24 hours per day with over 4 Gigabytes 
online.  We have 6 CD-Roms online full time using a Pioneer 604X 
CD Changer that has the fastest file transfer rate available to the 
"home" market (600 kb/sec). 
 
The current CD selection is:    Night Owl 9     CD Winbox 
                                Big Sky ROM     Software Vault 2 
                                Busty Babes     Seventh Heaven 
 
Computer Works is an economical place to buy your CD-Roms with our 
competitive pricing.  Download catalog.zip for the latest price list 
complete with descriptions.  We have questionnaires online for placing 
credit card and COD orders. 
 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales!                                   Jim... 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS  14.4k 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2992
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/05/93 11:55a
Subj: Big Sky Special                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                               ***Special*** 
                            Big Sky ROM   $26.00 
 
The price on Big Sky Rom has been reduced from $48 to $26.  This is a 
very well put together shareware disc with 668 megs and 7155 files. 
There is a file_id.diz file description in each zipped file.  The date 
of each zipped file is that of the largest file in the archive, giving a 
much more accurate representation than that of many CD-Roms currently on 
the market.  Big Sky is very popular on Computer Works BBS, and can be 
previewed online. 
 
Computer Works                                  Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
 
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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 2993
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 08/06/93 11:19p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Computer Select on CD-ROM is available for $300 for a particular month which
holds a full year of info or on a subscirption basis of one disc per month with
a rotating year worth of info for about $1,000.

I have not used the Bureau's nonfiction product but believe the World Library
CD-ROM is better.  CMC research puts out Shakespear and Sherlock Holmes on
separate CD-ROM discs.  Although they hardly utilize the space on the disc, I
believe the search and retrieval from CMC is better.

Newsweek on CD-ROM retails for $70 and seems to be starting at a street price
of $50.  I believe the price will drop in the future.

The COSUG BBS has switched back to the old phone numbers.  Jeff Shapiro is the
new SysOp.
 

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From: RICH JACKSON                           Number: 2994
  To: ALAN WILLIAMS                            Date: 08/07/93  4:23p
Subj: Michael Benge                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >-> Up to your old tricks Michael??  How did you go from no kids to three
 >-> kids in the last year?

 > EMFBI, three ladies and a busy social schedule??? ;-))

Couldn't be, he's as queer as a three dollar bill...

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2995
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 08/07/93  5:14a
Subj: Re: BEST CDROM PRICES!!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 01 Aug 93  13:10:43, I heard Sam Figueroa shout to Doug Carpenter:

SF> Doug,
SF>     How much do you sell it for?  Do you have NightOwl 9 for $25 as for
SF> thats what I really want to buy now?
SF>                              Thanks,

Doug,
     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!


             
               Call Free Spirit And ask for Barney!
                       ****************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.
        

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2996
  To: ALEX MAHAN                               Date: 08/07/93  5:17a
Subj: Re: Nightowl                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 03 Aug 93  12:10:49, I heard Alex Mahan shout to All:

AM> Has anybody seen nightowl 8 or 9 going cheap? I need a good cd-rom with
AM> everthing on it (actually my dad does) but I havent seen them for iunder
AM> $30. Thanks for any input, Alex

     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for

                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!
             
               Call Free Spirit And ask for Barney!
                      *****************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.
        

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2997
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/06/93  8:19a
Subj: Sound Sample CD-ROM Disc                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HI!

I am looking for a CD-ROM with .mid .voc .wav and even .iff and .mod
Can anybody tell me if one exists, and if so where I can get one?
Thanks in advance :)
Henry

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: RICK KOEHL                             Number: 2998
  To: FRANK CALUDA                             Date: 07/29/93 12:36a
Subj: Al-Qadim                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thank you, sir, for welcoming me to this conference.  I myself ran my own
designed campaigns for years - Spelljammer was my first exception, and
Al-Qadim has been my second (well, there was that short stretch with Mayfair's
Invincible Overlord, and then there was Lankhmar).  I also ran a local AD&D by
E-mail for a while, with a 10 player limit.  However, I don't think I would
want to run a Play By E-Mail game on a nation wide chat conference!
 
Well, thanks again for the welcome.  I should make this note short, for you
must be a very busy person.  There are several thousand letters here to sift
through, and there is no way I would take the time to read 1 tenth of them.
Rick Koehl
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From: PAT RILEY                              Number: 2999
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/07/93  6:58a
Subj: A FEW CHESTNUTS LEFT! 2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS¯¯    For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
MS¯¯                    Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

MS¯¯ 9.  HAM RADIO 3.0 - Excellent collection of HAM and SWL programs and data!
MS¯¯     Includes packet radio, satellite communications, frequency lists,
MS¯¯     equipment service, design, mods, logging, news, FAX, FCC, & others.

MS¯¯ 12. SHAREWARE OVERLOAD - Over 6100 programs (550mb compressed) for all
MS¯¯     applications, with an emphasis on games and Windows programs.  Subject
MS¯¯     include business, clipart, communications, BBS, database, education,
MS¯¯     finance, games, graphics, religion, sound, utilities, Windows, & more!

OK, Mike, send me these two COD, please.

P.J. Riley
258 W. Union
Edwardsville, IL 62025
(618) 692-1652

Thanks....
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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 3000
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/07/93 12:31a
Subj: The monster is back!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 08-03-93  20:58 Mike Shannon shared these words of wisdom: 

 LF> planning to order it at work as soon as the budget approval comes
 LF> through.

 MS> Got one set aside for ya darlin'.

The paperwork is churning!

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From: ROB O'DELL                             Number: 3001
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/07/93 10:24p
Subj: NEC CDR-73/83                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a few NEC CDR-73 and CDR-83 drives..  The 73's are external and
the 83's are internal.

$265 for the CDR-73
$245 for the CDR-83

Leave mail here..

Rob


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From: TROY LYNCH                             Number: 3002
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/07/93  8:03a
Subj: Unix SysVR4.2                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for a CD-ROm with Unix System V Release 4 or 4.2 binaries... I
have heard of a few... just need to find a place I can purchase one or trade
one... 
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From: LARRY CHARPIAT                         Number: 3003
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/07/93  5:50p
Subj: Re: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

That did not answer my question.  The Pioneer DMR600 will hold six CD
ROM disk in a cassette in the one cd player.  Can you switch to any of
the 6 CD disc's without manually pressing a button on the Drive through
software from a menu on the BBS?


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3004
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 08/08/93  7:47a
Subj: Re: PROBLEM WITH A CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BF> * SLMR 2.1a * From the Law Offices of Dewey, Cheatham, and Howe.

Just had to steal this one! -- Priceless!

... A feature is a bug with seniority.
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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 3005
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/07/93  8:50a
Subj: MPC Programs                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 08-05-93 HENRY PAUL wrote to ALL... 
 
 HP> I just got a CD-ROM drive, and I am looking for some MPC titles. 
 HP> Any help will be greatly appreciated! 
 
 Henry, if you are interested in history you might want to check out the 
 new 20TH Century Video Almanac by Software Toolworks. It has 164 videos, 
 all kinds of pictures etc.. It is relatively new (about 6 weeks), and 
 should start to be carried by some of the people that advertise in this 
 echo. I saw it at Egghead and bought it from a CDROM title club. >Paul< 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50  "Artificial Intelligence: The other guy's opinion." 

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3006
  To: NATE LAWSON                              Date: 08/07/93 12:45a
Subj: 7th guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NL>I am very interested in the 7th Guest CD.  The lowest price I have seen has
NL>been $49 through mail order.  Anyone have a used version?  Seen a lower
price

Nate,

As many as you want for $46.00.  Call any time.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3007
  To: KEITH SHEEHAN                            Date: 08/07/93 12:45a
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROMS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KS>I've read on the echo about a new Hobbes OS/2 CD-ROM that came out. Do you
KS>carry this disk? I have the Nov 92 which many seem to have but I'd like the
n

Hobbes OS/2 June '93 in stock at $16.00.  Call if you'd like one!

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3008
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/07/93 12:45a
Subj: FREQ OUR CATALOG!!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

***************************************************************************
   FREQ OR DOWNLOAD STARVECTOR'S CURRENT CATALOG W/ 300+ CD-ROM TITLES!
***************************************************************************

 To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 300+
 CD-ROM titles that we stock, you may either download our catalog file from
 our BBS, or Freq (file request) it.

 BBS:   509-457-0206 - Download STARCAT.ZIP from <F>ile menu. (1st call)
 FREQ:  1:3407/101 - File request STARCAT.ZIP

 Our new BBS now has an online order door with all our current titles and
 new lower prices!  All callers may d/l our catalog and/or place an order
 on the first call!

 Please feel free to call our BBS at 509-457-0206.  The system is using a
 U.S.R. Sportster 14.4, so you should have no problem logging on at any
 speed between 300bps and 14,400bps.

 While online, you may want to download one or more of the CD-ROM file
 listings that are available also.

 The Starvector BBS is online, and waiting to serve you!  Look for
 continuous updates and improvements in the near future, with more CD
 file listings, new online doors, and more!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3009
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/07/93 12:45a
Subj: CD MASTER LIST PART 1                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 August 1993             DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 8/06
 **************************************************************************
                                   1 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Microsoft Musical Instruments.58.00
 7th Guest.....................49.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........58.00
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    MIDI Music Shop...............29.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........24.50
 American Business Phonebk 91..17.00    Monarch Notes.................64.00
 American Business Phonebk 92..19.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 American Business Phonebk 93..39.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...38.50
 Amiga AB20....................15.00    Monster Media 93 (New!).......33.00
 Aminet Amiga (New!)...........15.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Mother of All Clipart.........23.50
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......27.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....27.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....30.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    National Business Directory...39.00
 Audubon's Birds...............25.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............25.00    National Parks................29.00
 Barney Bear Goes to Space.....20.00    Night Owl 4.1.................20.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    Night Owl 8.0.................27.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 9.0 (In stock!).....33.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl 8/9 2-Pak...........55.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....13.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Business Master...............20.00    North American Fax Book.......39.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    Ocean Digital Imagery.........34.50
 California Collection.........17.00    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...19.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    Our Solar System..............13.00
 CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....29.50
 CD Winbox (New!)..............27.00    PC-SIG #12....................27.00
 CD Grab Bag Disc..............19.00    PC Gameroom...................27.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Pentomino.....................32.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phethean's Shareware #1.......15.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phoenix 3.0...................13.00
 Clipart Galore................28.00    Pier 1........................27.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 2 (In stock!)............35.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........27.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....28.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....22.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......88.00
 Composer Quest................35.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........119.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency... 98.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....69.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........34.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....69.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Conan the Cimmerian...........33.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........27.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Crossword Cracker.............24.00    Q & A.........................39.50
 Cybergenic Ranger (New!)......27.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Reader's Library..............31.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Reel Clips (New!).............44.50
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Reference Library.............27.50
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....36.00
 Desktop Bookshop..............27.50    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...42.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....27.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Secret of Monkey Island.......25.50
 Dinosaur Adventure............34.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...28.00
 DTPro.........................28.50    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Eagle Eye Shareware (New!)....25.00    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Online..............28.00
 Electronic Cookbook (New!)....33.00    Shareware Overload............13.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3010
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/07/93 12:46a
Subj: CD MASTER LIST PART 2                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 August 1993             DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 8/06
 **************************************************************************
                                   2 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Shareware Studio 1............20.00
 Empire Clipart................29.00    Shareware Studio 2............25.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........15.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...25.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    Sights & Sounds...............25.00
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......29.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Find-It Webster...............49.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Font Master 2.................28.00    So Much Shareware 2...........27.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....28.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    Software Vault 1..............25.00
 Game Arena (New!).............13.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....27.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..29.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Soundware Collection (New!)...27.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    SoundWAV......................28.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Global Explorer...............93.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Space Quest IV................24.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Grolier's Ill. Ency. 2.0......38.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Grolier's MM Ency. 5.0........48.00    Street Atlas USA..............86.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency. 1.5.......48.00    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...25.00    Super CD 2....................27.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....16.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Super Games For Windows.......16.00
 Hamware 1993 (New!)...........28.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Technotools...................13.00
 House of Games................24.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..27.50
 Illustrated Holy Bible........47.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.50
 Jets & Props..................31.50    Total Baseball................29.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00    Trump Castle..................33.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. & World Atlas............29.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 King's Quest V................24.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........27.50    Up All Night Shareware (New!).19.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    VGA Spectrum 1................15.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00    VGA Spectrum 2................22.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    Visions of Saturn.............25.00
 Libris Britannia..............42.00    Vital Signs...................45.00
 Lion's Share..................24.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Loom..........................25.00    Window Master.................20.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........37.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Wing Commander II Deluxe......57.50
 Magnum One Shareware..........27.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Magnum Sight & Sound..........27.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......25.00
 Manhole.......................36.50    World Atlas MPC...............27.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............28.00    World Traveler (New!).........18.00
 Mega Clipart (New!)...........29.00    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......58.00    World Vision 3-Pak............45.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 3011
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93 12:27a
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Special.... for 1 week I'm offering used Hitachi 3500 internal cd rom drives
for $99.   I have about 20 left.  30 day warranty included.   205-824-2552


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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 3012
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 08/07/93  9:11a
Subj: Re: THE 7TH GUEST                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

IG> Gee.. Paranoid? Actualy I wrote in Howard Phillips Lovecraft, I didn't
IG> like any of the candidates. However your reply was tipical of many people
IG> today. Assume and accuse before thinking.

       Nope...I wuz just wondering since you obviously were annoyed by nothing
much. I don't care what your political view is, as long as you have the right
and ability to express it. There is a thing called "the consititution" you
know?
                                                               Edward 
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From: MARCELO RODRIGUEZ                      Number: 3013
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 08/07/93  9:03a
Subj: Tcm/night owl newsletter.               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please add me to your mailing list

Marcelo Rodriguez 187 Peralta Avenue San Francisco CA 94110


Thank you

D:2
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From: RON RICHMOND                           Number: 3014
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/08/93 12:16a
Subj: Re: disk                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>Yes, but I didn't send it as maybe you thought it would be a low cost
BO>cd. The current bid on this cd is $300. so I didn't think you wanted me
BO>to charge you card with that amount.

Thanks, you are correct. What is your price for Busty Babes release 2 ?
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 3015
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/08/93  7:25p
Subj: Computer Works                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Computer Works BBS is online 24 hours per day with over 4 Gigabytes
-> online.  We have 6 CD-Roms online full time using a Pioneer 604X
-> CD Changer that has the fastest file transfer rate available to the
-> "home" market (600 kb/sec).
->
-> The current CD selection is:    Night Owl 9     CD Winbox
->                                 Big Sky ROM     Software Vault 2
->                                 Busty Babes     Seventh Heaven
->
-> Computer Works is an economical place to buy your CD-Roms with our
-> competitive pricing.  Download catalog.zip for the latest price list
-> complete with descriptions.  We have questionnaires online for placin
-> credit card and COD orders.
->
-> Computer Works
-> CD-Rom Sales!                                   Jim...
-> (205) 793-4481 Voice
-> (205) 671-0092 BBS  14.4k
->
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  Hello Jim,
     Did you get the disk in the mail that i sent you yet? Let me know
when you do ok? thanks
Bubba
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From: MARIO DI MAMBRO                        Number: 3016
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 08/06/93  9:42p
Subj: Re: Encyclopedia                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Darren Sellner to All <=-

 DS> Does Anyone have a Encyclopedia NEW or in good condition for less
 DS> that $35? 
 DS> 
 DS> Thanks!
 DS> 
     I just wanted to say  "NOT LIKELY!"  I paid $180 for mine and it's
     1991 or 92 info.


... NO BRAIN NO PAIN
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From: CHAD STUDY                             Number: 3017
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 12:00a
Subj: AMIGA CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Would someone please make a decent CD with Amiga Shareware / PD files on it. 
Sure there is AB20 and Otherware, but lets face it these suck.  I want
something comparible to Pier 2 or Night Owl 9 except featuring Amiga files.
I know there isn't as many Amiga files as IBM...  But if you guys are going to
make CD's with Amiga PD at least make file descriptions comparible to the above
CD's....
 
* Hey, someone has to complain...
 
Chad

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From: JASON PAUL                             Number: 3018
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 08/08/93  5:21p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EB>GIFs Galore -- 630 Megs of GIFs

I would be interested in this if you will pay shipping.  Please let me know.

-=-
 * SLMR 2.1a * I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it?

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From: MING CHAN                              Number: 3019
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 08/07/93  8:58p
Subj: NIGHTOWL                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 ->> On 05 Aug 93  11:07:11, Vince Sorensen said to Alex Mahan:

 VS> Vince
 VS> (306)789-4654
 VS>  ! Origin: SUPERBOARD/CD-ROM WHOLESALERS   (306)789-8682 (1:140/121)

Hi Vince:

I have noticed that you are a Canadian CD-ROM retailer, and I would like
to know if you carry a specific CD-ROM title.  I tried calling your
board at the number above during the whole weekend, but all I got was a
busy signal.

I am interested in the following title:

PC-Pix I 646MB,5500+ Gifs,200+ Movies Discription,Nightlog
Images,Gabby's Lounge,Garlique Graphics,Twilight Zone,
Prizm,Farmer Daughter & Suger Magnolia 05/92

If you have it in stock please let me know the total price including
shipping and taxes.  Also let me know if you charge extra for Visa.

Regards,

 -----------------Ming Chan------------------       
  Internet:  ming.chan@canrem.com                 
             u9014958@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca         You are "Ichi Ban"!
   Fidonet:  1:221/203 (City Limits BBS)                     
 --------------------------------------------


... "What?!? This isn't the Files section?!?"
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From: YVES DESJARDINS                        Number: 3020
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93  9:28a
Subj: CD for trade...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

I have the following CD-ROMS for trade.

BattleChess Enhanced Edition
Microprose Mantis & Civilization.

If interested in them, just write down what you want to trade

Yves

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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 3021
  To: ART BREAULT                              Date: 08/09/93  5:20a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

While cruising the net, I heard Art Breault offer some advice to me:

 AB> Hello Ron I have a mitsumi internal cd drive. I had some proplems with
 AB> some programs due to memory.One the cd there is a operating program that
 AB> must become resident in memory. Make sure that your system meets all
 AB> reguiremnts in the area of hardware other than just the cd rom. What is

I haven't even been able to get the CD operating program to load.  I don't
think I need it for my purposes though, I'm using the CD to supplement my file
areas on my BBS.

 AB> your buffer amount, some cds are hard to access if you have this setting
 AB> to low. Some cds even require a certian access time, if they do they list
 AB> it on the box. Make sure you have enough base memory.If you can load cd
 AB> driver in high memory. Increase buffer to max. Make sure you have most 

I've tried no buffers, maximum buffers.  On base memory, before loading the BBS
software I have about 620k+.  After loading the BBS I still have 350k more or
less.  I'm running MTMCDE 2.10a now, but that hasn't seemed to make any
difference.

 AB> file doesn't load then the language will not be available for certian
 AB> operations and certain files. 
 AB> Finnaly when all your hair is gone then try booting with a floppy
 AB> and not using your hard drive at all. after booting of dos floppy try
 AB> accessing cd rom. Only dos operating file and cd drivers will be in memory
 AB> if this solves the problem then you have a conflict in your config or
 AB> autoexec file. My cd rom drivers are not memory resedent at boot. I use a
 AB> menu program that I have set up to load drivers independently of boot.

One of the salesmen at the dealer seems to think that there might be a conflict
between my SCSI interface and the CDRom.  So I'm going to switch the CDRom out
to another system I have that is identical to the one it's in now except that
this other system has IDE drives.  If it works then, I'll know where the
problem is.  Don't know what I'll do, but I'll know which direction to head in.

 AB> that saves me base memory.  Lastly read the rom box make sure your system
 AB> meets all requirements. If all else fails shoot system and call insurance
 AB> company.(grin)

With my luck, the insurance man is probably reading these messages as we speak
:).

                                  Thanks for the advice,
                                         Ron

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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 3022
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 12:40a
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                  ****  Digital Enterprises  ****
                       Custom CDROM Service

  Our CDROM Recorder is fired up, and ready to serve you!   We can
  produce a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive
  overnight!

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   o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
   o Use as a master to transfer data to a pressing facility.
   o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
   o Great for:  BBS Files, Document Imaging, Permanent Archival
                 Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
   o In MOST cases, 24 hour turnaround is possible.
   o Free UPS Blue label shipping to the Continental U.S.
   o COMING SOON!  Compact Disk AUDIO Production!  COMING SOON!

Pricing for Custom CD production:

o 527 Meg:  o $1 per megabyte UP TO $139.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 139MB
            o Minimum charge $85 for less than 85MB.
            o $50 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o 650 Meg:  o $1 per Megabyte UP TO $144.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 144MB
            o Minimum charge $90 for less than 90MB.
            o $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o CD Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee.

o UPS RED Label shipping is $15 extra.


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 ---------------------------           ----------------------- o 60MB
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                                   o Everex Tape

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o Floppy (At additional cost)      o Fastback 3.0 o PCTools

o Hard Disk

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  Prepay for service via Certified check or money order.  Personal
  checks must clear bank before production begins.  SORRY, we are
  not able to accept your Visa/Mastercard at this time.

*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***
 For the months of July and August, all orders qualify
 for a 10% discount from our CURRENT pricing.  Offer
 ends August 31, 1993.
*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***

Notice:

Digital will NOT be a party to the creation of "elite", or pirated software
collections on CDROM.  Such activity is morally WRONG and illegal.  If this is
your intention, please do not waste my time or yours.

For further information, please File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node
1:239/900.0 at V.32bis speeds, or call our voice number.

Loyd Craft
Digital Enterprises (Name recently changed) 517-865-6800 Voice (11:00 AM -
6:00PM Monday - Saturday) 517-865-6066 (Customer Support BBS) 1:239/900.0
(Fidonet)

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3023
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 08/09/93 12:54a
Subj: Re: WHILE THEY LAST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    In a message of <01 Aug 93  01:59:05>, Boris Osadciw
>>    (1:157/46) writes:

>>    Go ahead and send these C.O.D. to me
>>    Learning Adventure
>>    Colossal CookBook
>>    Technotools (2 copies)
>>    Plus 4 caddies
>>    I am sure you have my address by now <grin>.


On it's way...thanks....

Boris Osadciw

... I'm too sexy! You know what I mean!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3024
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/09/93  1:18a
Subj: Re:  Disk                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BO>> >>    Hi Boris, Did you recieve my order on Sat. July 30 for Bus
 BO>> >>    Babes 1.? I left it on your electronic order desk. Thanks,
 BO>> >>     Ron.
 BO>>
 BO>> Yes, but I didn't send it as maybe you thought it would be a low
 BO>> cd. The current bid on this cd is $300. so I didn't think you wa
 BO>> to charge you card with that amount.
>>
>>
>>    This is a joke, isn't it Boris??

Not at all BOB, in fact we now have an offer of $350. for this disk.

Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3025
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/09/93  1:18a
Subj: Re: POST?                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Boris,
>>
>>    One of my customers said you posted a message to me?  If so,
>>    please repost it because I didn't receive it.  If not, sorry
>>    to bother you.
>>    Later,

I did ??? That's news to me !!

Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: FILUTEK                                Number: 3026
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/09/93  3:47a
Subj: OS/2 and Linux CDROM's                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi;

I'm looking for a source of CD's with OS/2 and Linux related
files for my BBS. Any ideas?

Thanx in advance

Jerzy Prekurat


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3027
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 08/08/93  7:35p
Subj: Re: NIGHTOWL                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

VS>    How about $35Cdn (about $25 US)?
VS> 

     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!


               Call Free Spirit And ask for Barney !
                      ******************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.

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From: JERRY MICKISH                          Number: 3028
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/09/93  1:16a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I have a hardly used (in new condition) NEC CDR-35 external CD-ROM drive for
sale. The complete package contains an NEC interface card and cable, all
original manuals, and software drivers. 
 For the price of $140.00 (negotiable) I will guarantee against DOA and ship
it to your door. If you are intersted, please reply via this echo.



Thanks,   Jerry




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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 3029
  To: DAN EVATT                                Date: 08/08/93  1:45p
Subj: Messages                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DE> Why don't some people start putting in messages, this is boring I
DE> have nothing to read.

Send some, get some....

Give a little, get a little....

See the point?   .

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 3030
  To: DON HANCOCK                              Date: 08/08/93  1:44p
Subj: Programming cd's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DH> Looing for any programming CD's. New, used, doesn't matter as long
DH> as they're readable. Prefer C, C++, Xbase. Source code, libraries,
DH> etc.....

Don, are these what you're looking for?

 CUSERSGROU CDP - C User's Group Library                26.00
 GARBO      CDP - Garbo                                 20.00
 HOBBESOS2A CDP - Hobbes OS2 Archives                   20.00
 NOVA       CDP - Nova                                  30.00
 PROGRAMMER CDP - Programmer's ROM                      37.00
 SIMTEL20   CDP - Simtel 20                             20.00
 SOURCE     CDP - Source CD-ROM                         23.00
 SPRITE     CDP - Sprite                                30.00
 TECHNOTOOL CDP - Technotools                           17.00
 X11GNU     CDP - X11GNU                                25.00

 PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600
 Mastercard & Visa accepted. Posted on 08/08/93, @ 13:44.


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From: KEN TULLY                              Number: 3031
  To: KEITH SHEEHAN                            Date: 08/08/93  1:33p
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROMS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Keith.   I just joined this echo, so you probably havn't seen me before. 
The disk that Mike is refering to, (I believe), is my disk, and it will be
called the OS2 Quarterly Bible.  It will contain about 550 megs of the latest
Util, Games, CSD'S, IBM Text Files, Several Commercial Demo's, as well as a ton
of other stuff....  It will be BBS ready for both PCBoard, and Files.bbs
systems...   The only hold up on the disk right now is getting the front end
finnished.  I was hoping to have the disk released before Sept 1, but if I have
to wait for the front end to be finnished, it will be about 3 weeks late. Here
is a question for you....  Would you release the disk without a front end,or
would you prefer to wait 2 to 3 weeks longer???.  We could have filled the disk
with 650 or so megs, but we only wanted the premier programs on the disk.  We
didn't see the need to just use "FILLER".  The disk will be release approx 4
times a year, but will only contain PREMIUM material.



                                                Ken Tully
                                                KL Systems

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From: CARL GRAHAM                            Number: 3032
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/09/93  3:19p
Subj: TRADE GAMES FOR REF.                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Ultima Underworld (The Stygian Abyss) and Wing Commander II..
All docs and registration are in tact....used once...I am not a game
player... I would like to trade these for a Enclylopedia or some other
interesting reference material on CD Rom....Thanks Carl 904-733-4403.

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3033
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 11:24p
Subj: Mitsumi Support                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
Mistumi Electric Co.
 
Dallas Office:
6210 N. Beltline Rd. Ste. 320
Irving, TX
Tel: 214-550-7300
FAX: 214-550-7424
 
NY
35 Pinelwan Rd.
Melville, NY 11747
Tel: 516-752-7730
FAX: 516-752-7490
 
Chicago
2101 Arlington Heights Rd.
Arlington Heights, IL 60005
Tel: 708-593-7600
Fax: 708-593-7610
 
Santa Clara
4655 Old Ironsides Dr. Ste. 130
Santa Clara, CA 95040
Tel: 408-970-0700
Fax: 408-727-5337

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3034
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 11:30p
Subj: So Much Shareware III                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

So Much Shareware III $21
Yes, we are selling Night Owl's 9 also for the same price. We also have
hundreds of other titles in stock. For a catalog FREQ CATALOG from 1:138/116 or
1:138/120
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
1-206-473-1634 or 1-800-277-5179 FAX
All major credit cards accepted 

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3035
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 11:33p
Subj: Liquadation Discs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD PowerBox $12
CD Winbox   $12
Night Owl's v.9 $21
 
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX 

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3036
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 11:34p
Subj: Walnut Creek Releases                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We now have Giga Games in stock!..
Also CICA Windows will be updated next week. We do carry entire line of Walnut
Creek.
 
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX 

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 3037
  To: KEITH TOWNSEND                           Date: 08/07/93  9:51p
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hiya, Keith!
On Aug 04, Keith Townsend spake thusly to Michael Konor:

 KT>   Like I said the Drive I bought from you seems to be 
 KT> working fine..However about once every 15 second the LED 
 KT> turns on and off again..this does this continously..Sounds 
 KT> like unnecessary Disk access to me..Is this normal for these 
 KT> Toshiba drives or could it be a termination thing (It's the 
 KT> only SCSI device)..It seems to do it witth both the Asim and 
 KT> the CBM software so I don't think It's a software 
 KT> thing...Please leave me a note in case I'm worrying for 
 KT> nothing...Thanx

i bought 2 CDs from michael konor, and the first drive does that (the led
blinks all the time) but the 2nd one doesnt!  go figure...  


\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2

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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 3038
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 08/06/93  5:23p
Subj: Re: The 7Th Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            -=> Quoting Israel Gomberg to Mark Johnsen <=-

 MJ>... Clinton will tax wealthy Americans. Congratulations! You're rich!

 IG> I might have been interested, but I don't do buisness with people who
 IG> show the  distaste of forwarding their unsolicited political views.

 EC> Why don't you rephrase that? What you really meant was, "I
 EC> voted for Clinton and now I'm too embarrassed to tell anyone".
 EC> Edward

Israel, just caught Edward's reply to your message, assume it was to me?
You must've mispelled my last name when sending the reply as I never got it,
but guess the type-o w/my last name was similar to the mistake you may have
made in the voting booth ;)

"distaste of forwarding their unsolicited political views" ?!?  Guess that
means you no longer buy newspapers due to the "unsolicited political views"
run daily, known as political satire...  Let me guess, it was OK for
Dunesberry to run four years of invisible man jokes, but the current material
is "distasteful" ?  Let me know when you're ready to seperate tagline humor
from business and I'll be happy to talk w/you... until then, "Don't blame me,
I voted for..." well, you know the rest!

Regards.

,\\ark



 
... "C'mon Honey, let me sit in the chair today" - Bill Clinton
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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 3039
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/08/93  8:03a
Subj: A FEW CHESTNUTS LEFT! 1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> 3. SOUND SENSATIONS! - Adds multimedia excitement to your system!  In
->    tons of sound effects, music files, jukeboxes, voices, sound clips
->    music voices, etc. in a variety of file formats.
I am VERY interested in this one! Is it just .voc and .wav or does it
have .mid too?

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 3040
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/08/93  8:06a
Subj: A FEW CHESTNUTS LEFT! 2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> 13. OUR SOLAR SYSTEM - Exciting NASA and observatory photos of the pl
->     moons, comets, earth, and celestial phenomena!  Includes star loc
->     planetarium programs, astronomical data, voyage simulators, + ton
I'm inerested in this one! do you have any left?

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: MANNY CASAO                            Number: 3041
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 08/08/93  7:33p
Subj: Re:                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do These CDROM drives come  in the original box?
Are any docs or manuals included? Cables?
 
What type of warranty in included?
 
Are you an authorized dealer?

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From: MANNY CASAO                            Number: 3042
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 08/08/93  7:39p
Subj: Re:                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I can offer $20.00 for the Source code cdrom and will prepay if you cover
shipping.



Manny

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From: MANNY CASAO                            Number: 3043
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 08/08/93  7:42p
Subj: Re:                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EB> Source -- Gobs of C code                 $20.00   (MAR 92)
EB> C User's Group  -- More Gobs of C code   $20.00   (OCT 92)
 
I can offer $30.00 for both of thises disks.
 
 
lemme know



Manny

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3044
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 11:06p
Subj: BUY 3 GET ONE FREE!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          -------------* 3 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!! *--------------

               BUY THIS:                             GET THIS FREE:
  *-----------------------------------*       *--------------------------*
  |   ADULT 3-PAK SPECIAL:            |       |                          |
  |                                   |       |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0     |
  | 1.  ALL BEAUTIES (gif, fli, gl)   |       |     REVISED EDITION      |
  | 2.  HOT PIX 5                     |       |                          |
  | 3.  AMATEUR MODELS (gif, tiff)    |       |     650+MB OF GREAT      |
  |                         *-----*   |       |        SHAREWARE!        |
  *-------------------------| $89 |---*       *--------------------------*
                            *-----*

 Get the three newest and hottest adult CD's on the market for the super
 low price of only $89, and receive a PowerPak Gold 3.0 shareware CD
 absolutely free!  This offer is for a limited time only, so hurry!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3045
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 11:06p
Subj: FREQ OUR NEW CATALOG!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

***************************************************************************
   FREQ OR DOWNLOAD STARVECTOR'S CURRENT CATALOG W/ 300+ CD-ROM TITLES!
***************************************************************************

 To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 300+
 CD-ROM titles that we stock, you may either download our catalog file from
 our BBS, or Freq (file request) it.

 BBS:   509-457-0206 - Download STARCAT.ZIP from <F>ile menu. (1st call)
 FREQ:  1:3407/101 - File request STARCAT.ZIP

 Our new BBS now has an online order door with all our current titles and
 new lower prices!  All callers may d/l our catalog and/or place an order
 on the first call!

 Please feel free to call our BBS at 509-457-0206.  The system is using a
 U.S.R. Sportster 14.4, so you should have no problem logging on at any
 speed between 300bps and 14,400bps.

 While online, you may want to download one or more of the CD-ROM file
 listings that are available also.

 The Starvector BBS is online, and waiting to serve you!  Look for
 continuous updates and improvements in the near future, with more CD
 file listings, new online doors, and more!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3046
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 11:06p
Subj: MORE CD'S ON SALE!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

___________________________________________________________________________

                   STARVECTOR CD-ROM BLOWOUT SPECIALS!
___________________________________________________________________________

      - These are special prices, and are for a limited time only.
      - Sale limited to stock on hand, so hurry!

                              GENERAL TITLES
                              --------------
Bibles & Religion...$10   Colossal Cookbook...$10   Our Solar System....$10
Shareware Overload..$10   Windows 93..........$21   SoundWAV............$24
Deathstar Arcade....$10   Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15   House of Games......$20
Ham Radio 3.0.......$10   Sound Sensations....$10   Windoware...........$10
Complete Bookshop...$10   Technotools.........$10   Too Many Typefonts..$10
Compton's Interact..$95   Clipart Goliath.....$10   Dictionaries/Lang...$10

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MORGAN LEFAE                           Number: 3047
  To: BETSY RICHLAND                           Date: 08/06/93  7:30a
Subj: LOVE AND ALL                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BR> I still don't understand how a woman can be more rude than a man.

Why do you say this?  Women aren't these rarefied beings, far above the
struggles and dealings of mere mortals such as men...they're just people.
Same as men are people.  And in any group of people you'll find some that
are cruel or kind or sensitive or brutish or considerate or whatever.

Maybe you expected perfection of behavior/attitude and got a human being
instead...it happens.

2cents...
Morgan


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From: MORGAN LEFAE                           Number: 3048
  To: SKYE STRYDER                             Date: 08/06/93  7:39a
Subj: Mists, Dragons, Technolog               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SS> Well, I should know better since I've read "Mists" twice, but I
 SS> think it's a mental block based on the "Lefae" part.

It really should be LeFae but I guess BBSs sometimes have trouble with
strange capitalization.

 SS> you might want to read Robert Jordans 4 tome (at latest count) saga.
 SS> "The Dragon Reborn" is the first of them, I believe.

I've read this one too!  Although I haven't gotten to books 2, 3 or 4 yet.
I've got too many hobbies...I never get much time for any one of them!!

 SS> Fortunately we've been bought, have a new engineering VP and
 SS> hopefully new ideas will be coming to fruition.

At least you've got a positive outlook on the change!  We're in the
process of reorganizing where I am and I'm not sure how I'm going to fit
into the new structure. I'm not worried about it (yet...) but it makes for
uncertain times.  Good luck!

 SS> Hope your life is going well!

Actually, yes it is.  I'm in a very happy, stable relationship (coming up
on 13 years!), we have the home in the country we've always wanted, I just
added to my critter menagerie the other day (2 pygmy nanny goats, we're
looking for a billy), the flood waters are receding, we've actually had a
couple sunny days in a row, and overall my life is very peaceful and
satisfying.  Ok, ok....I'll stop and y'all can take that finger out of
your throat....  <G>

I'm not familiar with the area code in the tagline...whereabouts are you
calling from?

Morgan


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From: MORGAN LEFAE                           Number: 3049
  To: PATCHWORK GIRL                           Date: 08/06/93  8:11a
Subj: Spinning                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I can't remember if this is the right echo, so I hope this gets through...

I just got the book on spinning that I ordered....Somebody Kohl (I
think..), The Whole Catalog of Spinning Craft.  Now I'm hyped...  The
State Fair is coming up in a couple weeks and I plan to find the spinning
demonstration times and go then...even if I have to take a day off work!

The book has this whole section on spinning non-wool stuff that includes
things like milkweed fuzz, cattail fuzz, corn silk, etc.  That just
boggles my mind...that you could spin something like milkweed fuzz. %-]

Anyway, if you have the chance and inclination, would you look up in your
magazines or wherever and see where the spinning supply places are closest
to Des Moines.

Thanks muchly!!
Morgan


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From: RON RICHMOND                           Number: 3050
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/08/93  9:58p
Subj: Re: disk                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>Yes, but I didn't send it as maybe you thought it would be a low cost
BO>cd. The current bid on this cd is $300. so I didn't think you wanted me
BO>to charge you card with that amount.

Thanks, you are correct.  Please cancel my suggested order. I will buy
 Ver. 2 from another vendor for $29. as we discussed on the phone on
 Sunday.                     Thanks,                   Ron.
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From: RALPH R. HANS                          Number: 3051
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 11:20p
Subj: Action File Viewers                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What file viewers art the best to view action pictures with and do you need one
for every different file extention?

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3052
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/09/93  5:19a
Subj: Night Owl $25                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!


               Call Free Spirit And ask for Barney !
                      ******************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.

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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 3053
  To: JASON PAUL                               Date: 08/09/93 11:05p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> EB>GIFs Galore -- 630 Megs of GIFs

>> I would be interested in this if you will pay shipping.  Please let me
>> know.

    Done.  Send $20.00 check or MO to:
Eric Bravick
USF 3008
4202 E. Fowler Ave.
Tampa, FL. 33620-3008

(813) 979-1323 (Voice)
(813) 977-5212 (BBS)
Netmail 1:377/53.0
    Money Orders are faster, as I don't have to wait for checks to clear.

Thanks,
Eric


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From: RON COLEMAN                            Number: 3054
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 10:53p
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can someone tell me a good quality Adult Cd that has Gif's and animations for
a reasonable cost like around $30 to $40 ? Or any one have a used one for
sale.I only have 1 disk right now and its for my kids (animals).Thanks.

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From: TAMI THOMPSON                          Number: 3055
  To: CHAD STUDY                               Date: 08/09/93  8:47p
Subj: AMIGA CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CS> Would someone please make a decent CD with Amiga 
 CS> Shareware / PD files on it.  Sure there is AB20 
 CS> and Otherware, but lets face it these suck.  I 
What about Hypermedia's Fred Fish Collection (or the one that comes w/the Xetec
Amiga File System or AsimWare's version that accompanies their file system);
the Fred Fish Collection of freely distributable software is now up to 800
disks. There is also Walnut Creek's Aminet CDROM; Aminet is a repository of
Amiga related software, several FTP mirror sites exist around the world
(Internet) - this CDROM is a snapshot of Aminet from JUN93. I think these are
examples of what you are looking for... -Tami

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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 3056
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/09/93  5:40p
Subj: CD MASTER LIST PART 2                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   Hi Mike!

I know that you said you would match or beat any advertised price on a
Cd-Rom disk, right? Locally in El Paso at Computer City, they are
selling Just Grandma and Me (kid's interactive story) for $39.95
everyday. Your catalog lists it for $42.00. Will you meet or beat that
price? What type of proof do you need? Thanks!


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From: RENE MARTINEZ                          Number: 3057
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 08/09/93  6:19p
Subj: Re: tcm/night owl newslet               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Ray Herold <=-

 RH>If you are NOT on our mailing list, but would like to get the latest
 RH>Night Owl news (along with info on discounts we do not advertise in
 RH>the e-mail nets), you may do one of the following:
 RH>    - leave a message here with your name & address

 Please add me to your mailing list.

              The Leech BBS
              Mr. Rene B. Martinez
              138 Redrock Drive
              PO Box 4865
              San Antonio, TX 78213-4526
     Voice  : (210) 341-6851
     FAX/BBS: (210) 349-6266 14.4k v.32bis, v.42bis


... My V32bs fx/mdm wrks jst fne wthot a 1550 bffrd URT ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 3058
  To: JAMES PRICE                              Date: 08/01/93  4:21a
Subj: CD-ROM CACHING????                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JP>Is there a major <if any> improvement in caching a CD-rom with 435 ms
JP>access time and 150kb transfer rate???

JP>Is there a program that will Cache my CD-rom and my hard drive also??

JP>Saw a public domain program, but it wouldn't work.  I think it said
JP>something about the trial period expired.

JP>If you use a Cache on your drive, please send me a note on how you
JP>like it...



JP>Thanks in advance.




JP>---
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JP>--- TMail v1.31.5
JP> * Origin: * 20/20 TBBS * 312-769-1227 @2400 * 275-1785 @9600 (1:115/769)
I use CD Speedway and the only benefit I've found was if viewing gifs on
the cd-rom it stops the jerkyness of the files when they first come up,
if I setup a slideshow in Vpic it dramatically helps! I am, like you
looking for a good cd rom cache program? If I could only find Norton
Speedcache+ at a good price?

                                Sam Figueroa
                                Sam's Software
                                (615) 728-7383


 * SLMR 2.1a * 5/" hard is better than 3/" floppy.

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 3059
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/01/93  4:43a
Subj: CDROM Specials                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

BO>American Premier          Officers Bookcase       Canadian Shareware
BO>Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
BO>TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
BO>Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
BO>Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
BO>Chicano Datebase          PC-SIG Games            LaserTax On CD
BO>Phoenix # 3               Jokes&Pranks            Learning Adventure
BO>Business Assistant        World Travler           Sound Sensation
BO>DeathStar Arcade          Colossal CookBook       ClipArt Goliath
BO>Technotools               Our Solar System        Windoware

BO>************************************************************************

BO>                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
BO>                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
BO>                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

BO>*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

BO>Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
BO>Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
BO>Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
BO>Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

BO>***********************************************************************



BO>Boris Osadciw

BO>... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
BO>--- FMail 0.94
BO> * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46)
 Boris,
        I would like to maybe order 3 cd's, consisting of Busty Babes 3
        for (25), MegaAV for 15 or Sound Sensation for 10, can you tell
        me which sound disc is better and can you give me an address to
        send you a money order and if possible I would like to receive a
        catalog before I order anything!
                                Very Interested,

        Sam Figueroa
        Sam's Software
        Rt 2 Box 2453-A
        Manchester, TN 37355
        (615) 728-7383
                                Thanks again!!!!!!!!

 * SLMR 2.1a * 6.9 <--- A good thing ruined by a period.

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From: MIGUEL GARCIA                          Number: 3060
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/10/93  2:42p
Subj: Order                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike,

Thanks for the prompt service on my recent order.  I got it today and
find the Mayo CD outstanding.

Do you have any information on CD's that might be particularly useful
to a law school student? i.e. Black's Law Dictionary, Laws on Disk,
etc.

Also, do you carry the Grolier's Ency. featured in the most recent PC
Mag?

Thanks again.


 * KWQ/2 1.2a * If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test (KWQ Be
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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 3061
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 08/09/93  8:24p
Subj: Welcome!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SF> Thanks for the info
SF>              Sam Figueroa
 
 Your welcome, Sam.  If there is ever anything that you would like to ask me,
don't ever hesitate to do so.  Also, if you would like a list of all the CD's
that Computer Works carries, i'd be glad to mail one to you, if you would leave
me your address.  Well, i'll ttyl. 
                                           Mark
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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 3062
  To: JOHN MORRISON                            Date: 08/07/93 12:25a
Subj: Battlechess-enhanced mode6              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JM> I am writing this for a friend who doesn't have a modem. He is looking
JM> for "BATTLECHESS"-enhanced mode, on CDrom. Would anyone who sells it
JM> please E-mail me a price including shipping  to Winnipeg MB.

 
 We sell that CD at Computer Works BBS for $65.00. Shipping rates are 
$4.00 for up to 5 CD's, and all CD's are shipped 2 Day Priority Mail.
 
                                               Mark
 
 Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! 
 Online Credit Card Ordering Available! 
 (205) 671-0092 - BBS 
 (205) 793-4481 - Voice 
 SysOp - Jim Lambert  CoSysOp - Mark Clardy
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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 3063
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/07/93 12:37a
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  If anyone would like for Computer Works BBS to mail them A list of all 
the CD's we carry, please tell me your address, and we will send one to 
you.  Thank you for your time. 
                                       Mark

 
  Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! 
  Online Credit Card Ordering Available! 
  (205) 671-0092 - BBS 
  (205) 793-4481 - Voice 
  SysOp - Jim Lambert  CoSysOp - Mark Clardy
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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 3064
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 07/30/93  5:44p
Subj: Faxes                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <27 Jul 93  07:25:22>, Don DeMaere (1:3402/15) writes:
 >3) I use a Panasonic KXF-110 G3 fax machine
 >FAXMODEMS DON'T WORK. AT LEAST NOT WHEN RECEIVING A FAX.
 >Actually, most work very well sending out a fax. But, that doesn't help 
 >me.
They do to work. We use them all the time. Certain fax modems just work better
than others. We have a Cardinal 24/96 Fax modem that will not talk to our GVC
14.4/96 Fax modem, but works with everything else. Other than that, it works
perfect.
 >Come on, vendors. This is the 90's. I know margins are tight, but many 
 >fax machines are cheaper than the CD drives you sell, and a dedicated 
Do you know where you can get a Fax machine for around $200? If so, I'd like
to know where. I think Walmart use to have them, but not anymore...

For SAle: VGA Spectrum II - $17

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From: FRANK CALUDA                           Number: 3065
  To: RICK KOEHL                               Date: 08/10/93  6:59a
Subj: Al-Qadim                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I think I should inform you that you replied to my message in a different
conference than the one I wrote to you in. I received thid message in the
CDROMS for sale echo. Just thought I'd let you know.
 
Frank

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 3066
  To: MIKE WALKER                              Date: 08/09/93  9:09a
Subj: Re: Looking                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Bob Jackson <08-07-93 23:12> Mike Walker wrote:

MW>> > celebrity-only CD 'tho several (incl. Busty Babes) have quite a few

Note, Release 3.0 does not have any celebs on it--Ecstasy another adult CD has
a couple dirs of them also--Boris, has release BB 2.0 and you can find him in
this echo--All the earlier versions of BB have celebs on them.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 3067
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/09/93  9:13a
Subj: Re:  Disk                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Boris Osadciw <08-07-93 08:24> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>>  BO> >>    Babes 1.? I left it on your electronic order desk.
BJ>>  BO> The current bid on this cd is $300.

BJ>> This is a joke, isn't it Boris??

Bob believe it or not this is no joke--The BB 1.0 disc's are going for premium
dollar, and Boris last week sold one for $250.00--I am sure that he is down to
1 or 2 left, and the consumers are bidding him to sell them against his
desires--:)

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: MARIO DI MAMBRO                        Number: 3068
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/09/93 12:45p
Subj: Cd Chess Game                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I noticed you sell cd's and cd stuff, so I thought I would ask you if the
new game Chess Meister 5 Billion & 1 is available on CD?  I saw it on disk
at a local software store, but it take 27 Megs on the HD so I was hoping 
I could get a copy on CD.

... Silver Xpress? Its tracks were washed out by a Blue Wave!
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From: MARIO DI MAMBRO                        Number: 3069
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/09/93 12:48p
Subj: Cd Chess Game                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I s the new game Chess Meister 5 Billion & 1 available on CD?  I saw it at 
a local software store, but it take 27 Megs on the HD so I was hoping I 
could get it on CD instead.


... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 3070
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/07/93  8:03p
Subj: RED HOT                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <03 Aug 93  01:46:10>, Boris Osadciw (1:157/46) writes:

 > HOT PIX 5 
 > PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK 
 > AMATEUR MODELS 
Tell me more about these discs, please?? 

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From: ART GIESE                              Number: 3071
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 11:15p
Subj: External CDROM for Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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External CD ROM, Controller, Cable, Setup Software, DOES NOT USE DISK CADDIES.
Nice smooth operating drive. $200. Call ART (719)596-8995,Colorado Springs.


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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 3072
  To: KIRK REEVES                              Date: 08/09/93  3:48p
Subj: trade simms for cd-rom                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Up here in Canada you could get simms for $50.

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 3073
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/09/93  3:51p
Subj: Games                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HI everyone,  if you have ANY CD-ROM games that are along the Sierra lines, or
as long as it's along the format of a Sierra game.  Please tell me what games
you have and would like to get rid of.  Thank-you.

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 3074
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/01/93  6:28p
Subj: CD ROM Discs                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       Complete list of all available titles from C.S.S.
              See end of list for ording options.

7th Guest                                      60.00
Adventures of Willy Beamish                    35.00
Aircraft Encyclopedia                          42.00
American Business Phonebook 1                  24.00
American Business Phonebook 2                  33.00
Amiga AB20                                     21.50
AMSoft World of Ham Radio                      34.00
Animals MM San Diego Zoo                       32.50
Animals MPC San Diego Zoo                      32.50
Arthur's Teacher Trouble                       34.00
Audobon's Birds                                32.00
Audobon's Mammals                              32.00
Barney Bear Goes to School                     27.00
Barney Bear Goes to Space                      27.00
Battle Chess Enhanced                          37.00
Beauty and the Beast                           37.50
Bible Library                                  36.00
Bibles and Religion                            21.50
Britannica Family Choice                       38.50
Britannica Select Software                     38.50
Business Master                                25.00
Business Master                                25.00
C User's Group Library                         36.50
California Collection                          22.00
Career Opportunities                           34.00
Carmen Sandiego Deluxe                         33.50
CD PowerBox                                    39.00
CD WinBox                                      39.00
Chessmaster 3000                               32.00
CIA World Fact Book                            29.00
CICA Microsoft Windows                         21.00
Classic Collection Plus 4-Pack                 59.00
Clipart Galore                                 37.50
Clipart Goliath                                21.50
Clipart Heaven                                 34.00
Colossal Cookbook                              21.50
Complete Bookshop                              21.50
Composer Quest                                 43.50
Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia             14.00
Compton's MPC Encyclopedia                     84.00
Compton's Multimedia Encyclopedia              84.00
Conan the Cimmerian                            40.00
Consumer Information Disc                      44.00
Crossword Cracker                              29.50
Danger! Hot Stuff                              25.00
Danger! Hot Stuff II                           30.00
Deathstar Arcade Battles                       21.50
Desert Storm                                   41.00
Desktop Bookshop                               33.50
Dictionaries and Languages                     21.50
Dictionary of the Living World                 43.50
Dinosaur Adventure                             39.00
Education Master                               25.00
Electronic Home Library                        42.00
Encyclopedia of Clipart                        33.00
Encyclopedia of Sound                          27.00
Family Doctor                                  34.50
Font Master I                                  24.00
Font Master II                                 33.00
Food Analyst                                   41.50
Fresh Arte                                     41.00
Front Page News                                31.00
Game Master                                    25.00
Game Pack I                                    30.00
Game Pack II                                   32.00
Games 1993                                     33.00
Garbo MS-DOS/MAC                               20.50
GIF's Galore                                   21.50
Gigabtye Gold                                  30.00
Global Explorer                                02.00
Golden Immortal                                30.00
Great Cities, Volume 1                         30.00
Great Cities, Volume 2                         30.00
Great Wonders of the World                     48.00
Guinness Disc of Records                       32.00
Hacker's Chronicles                            32.00
Ham Radio 3.0                                  21.50
Hobbes OS/2 (OS/2 Archive CD-ROM)              21.00
House of Games                                 34.00
Illustrated Holy Bible                         54.00
Interactive Story Time, Volume 1               30.00
Interactive Story Time, Volume 2               30.00
International Business and Economic Atlas      29.50
Jedi Collection 3-Pack                         54.00
Jets and Props                                 36.50
Jones in the Fast Lane                         28.50
Just Grandma and Me                            47.00
KGB World Fact Book                            38.00
Kings Quest V                                  30.00
Klotski                                        24.00
Languages of the World                         53.00
Library of the Future, 1st Edition             59.50
Libris Britannia                               49.00
Lion's Share                                   33.00
Loom                                           30.00
MacMillan Children's Dictionary                44.00
Magazine Rack                                  29.50
Magnum One Shareware                           34.00
Marketing Master 1992                          24.00
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing                    33.50
Mayo Clinic                                    40.00
Microsoft Bookshelf                            63.00
Microsoft Cinemania                            63.00
Microsoft Works                                63.00
MIDI Music Shop                                37.00
Mixed Up Mother Goose                          29.50
Monarch Notes                                  69.00
Money, Money, Money!                           29.50
Monster Disc 2-Pak                             49.00
Mother Earth 2                                 33.00
Mother of all Clipart                          29.00
MPC Wizard for Windows                         19.00
National Business Directory                    44.00
National Geographic Mammals                    32.00
National Parks                                 37.00
Night Owl's Business Disc                      29.00
Night Owl's Business Disc                      29.00
Night Owl's v4.2                               27.00
Night Owl's v5.0                               28.00
Night Owl's v6.2                               29.00
Night Owl's v7.0                               30.00
Night Owl's v8.0                               34.00
Night Owl's v9.0                               39.00
North American Fax Book                        54.00
Ocean Digital Imagery                          50.00
Original Shareware 1992                        23.00
Otherware I                                    30.00
Our Solar System                               21.50
Pascal Paradise on CD-ROM                      39.00
PC Gameroom                                    33.50
PC Medic                                       38.00
PC-Sig #12                                     35.00
Peter and the Wolf                             32.00
Phoenix v3.0                                   26.50
Pier 1                                         34.00
Pier 2                                         50.00
Plant Doctor                                   42.00
Profiles of Colleges                           39.00
Programmer's MegaPack                          39.00
ProPhone 1993                                  33.00
Publique Art                                   41.00
Publish-It!                                    34.00


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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 3075
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/01/93  6:28p
Subj: CD ROM Discs                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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Publisher's Dream Disc                         43.50
Publisher's Paradise                           40.00
Reader's Library                               37.50
Reference Library                              32.50
Return to the Moon                             43.00
Roger Ebert's Movie Companion                  48.00
Sci-Fi                                         33.50
Secret of Monkey Island                        30.50
Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe                33.00
Shakespeare                                    22.50
Shareware Extravaganza                         49.00
Shareware Online                               34.00
Shareware Overload                             21.50
Shareware Studio I                             26.00
Shareware Studio II                            32.00
Sherlock Holmes                                22.50
Sherlock Holmes, Consulting Detective          30.00
Simtel 20                                      21.00
So Much ScreenWare                             33.00
So Much ShareWare I                            27.50
So Much ShareWare II                           34.50
Software Vault                                 30.00
Software Vault II                              34.00
Sound Sensations                               21.50
Sound Works                                    24.00
SoundWAV                                       34.00
Source Code CD-ROM                             25.00
Space Quest IV                                 30.00
Spirit of Excalibur                            43.50
Sporting News                                  31.00
Sports Best on CD                              33.50
Stellar 7                                      30.00
Street Atlas USA                               93.00
Super Games for DOS                            23.00
Super_CD                                       30.00
Super_CD II                                    34.00
Talking Jungle Safari                          42.50
Talking Schoolhouse                            42.50
TechnoTools                                    21.50
Tempra Access Photo CD Software                37.50
Terrorist Group Profiles                       45.00
Time Magazine Compact Almanac                  33.50
Timetable of History: Science and Innovation   31.00
Too Many TypeFonts                             21.50
Toolworks Illustrated Encyclopedia 2.0         44.00
Toolworks MPC Encyclopedia 1.0                 54.00
Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia 5.0          54.00
Total Baseball                                 40.00
U.S. & World Atlas                             34.00
U.S. Atlas with AutoMap                        34.00
U.S. Presidents                                42.00
VGA Spectrum I                                 22.00
VGA Spectrum II                                30.00
Visions of Saturn                              30.00
Vital Signs                                    44.00
Wild Places                                    29.00
Window Master                                  25.00
Windoware                                      21.50
Windows 1993                                   33.00
Windows Shareware Gold                         42.00
Wing Commander II Deluxe                       63.00
Wing Commander/Ultima VI                       30.00
Wing Commander: Secret Missions                34.00
WizPak                                         22.00
World Atlas                                    34.00
World of Flight                                39.00
World of Trains                                39.00
World Traveler                                 24.00
World View                                     29.00
World Vision 3-Pak                             52.00
Wrath of the Demon                             43.00


VISA/MASTERCARD/DISCOVER/AMEX/CHECK/COD accepted. All can be ordered
online by calling 517-263-0273 or voice at 517-263-0017, Mon-Fri
1pm-7pm. Or you can contact me via netmail at the below address.

Chris

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 3076
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/09/93 11:35p
Subj: C.S.S.                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Shop at home using your PC! Low prices on many, many items. Magazines, CD's,
Tapes, Albums, Gifts, Novelties, Adult Toys, & much more!

The mall is growing daily. For a current listing of just some of our items,
F'req:

CSSMAGS......Magazine Subscriptions. Lowest prices, guaranteed! 900+ selections
>CSSPCCDS.....Low price CD's for your ROMs. Credit Cards Accepted!
CSSTAPES.....Low Price Cassette Tapes. Great Selection. Growing Daily
CSSCDS.......Low Price Music CD's. Great Selection. Growing Daily.
CSSSHARE.....Catalog of shareware. Over 6000 titles!!!
CSSBOOKS.....Collection of books covering many subjects

You can also view are mall online by calling 517-263-0273.

For more information call C.S.S. at 517-263-0017 1pm - 7pm/Mon. - Fri.

SYSOPS!!! Make these files available to your users and earn a commission! File
          request SYSOPAPP from 1:2470/11 or 1:2470/16.

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From: DAVID HARRISON                         Number: 3077
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 08/10/93  1:40a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JM>  I have a hardly used (in new condition) NEC CDR-35 external CD-ROM drive f
JM> sale. The complete package contains an NEC interface card and cable, all
JM> original manuals, and software drivers. 
JM>  For the price of $140.00 (negotiable) I will guarantee against DOA and shi
JM> it to your door. If you are intersted, please reply via this echo.
I am interested in your drive there, but I am worried about long distance 
sales...  Why dont you call me voice at 214-252-5644 sometime today/tomorrow 
if you can...

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3078
  To: LARRY CHARPIAT                           Date: 08/10/93  1:28a
Subj: Re: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    That did not answer my question.  The Pioneer DMR600 will hold
>>    six CD ROM disk in a cassette in the one cd player.  Can you
>>    switch to any of the 6 CD disc's without manually pressing a
>>    button on the Drive through software from a menu on the BBS?

The cd changer will work the same as your hard drive. When a user
selects a file area, the changer will swap disks to the proper area
without your help. It's all in the way you configure your BBS or Door
program, since you enter a path in the systems file base.

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3079
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/10/93  1:28a
Subj: Re: Sound Sample CD-ROM Disc            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    HI!

>>    I am looking for a CD-ROM with .mid .voc .wav and even .iff
>>    and .mod Can anybody tell me if one exists, and if so where I
>>    can get one? Thanks in advance :)
>>    Henry


We have a disk called " Soundware " that offer's all of the above and
more and is BBS ready as well. It claims to be the largest selection
of sound files in the world.

Interested, it's only $25. and well worth it. Give us a call at
216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to fill your needs. We also
have several other sound disks as well.

Hope this helps...

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same!
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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3080
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/09/93 10:52p
Subj: Re: PROBLEM WITH A CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ> BF> * SLMR 2.1a * From the Law Offices of Dewey, Cheatham, and Howe.

BJ>Just had to steal this one! -- Priceless!

It's from the National Public Radio program "Car Talk" with Click
and Clack the Tappet brothers.  Check it out, good advice, great
humor.

 * SLMR 2.1 * Unable to locate Coffee -- Operator Halted!

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From: PAT GANNON                             Number: 3081
  To: TERRY MCDILL                             Date: 08/05/93  7:03p
Subj: The 7th Guest and Mitsumi CD-Roms       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi, I just saw an ad for 7th Guest for $25 on this board fromJohn Anderson, and
I don't see why you wouldn't be able to run it on a Mitsumi cd rom drive with
350ms access time. GO FOR IT!!!

-James Douglas Morrison


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From: LESLIE THOMAS                          Number: 3082
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/09/93  7:37a
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in buying  a used CD Rom that is comptatible with using
the SBPro as a controller.  Anyone have one they are interested in parting
with?

    WinQwk 2.0 a#0


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From: DICK WILSON                            Number: 3083
  To: LARRY CHARPIAT                           Date: 08/09/93  5:57a
Subj: Re: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LC-|That did not answer my question.  The Pioneer DMR600 will hold six CD
LC-|ROM disk in a cassette in the one cd player.  Can you switch to any of
LC-|the 6 CD disc's without manually pressing a button on the Drive through
LC-|software from a menu on the BBS?

If I may butt in - I believe that you are asking about using software
OTHER than the software that comes with the Pioneer - if so, the answer is
YES.  I am using two of these devices on my BBS using ROMDOOR software.
ONLY 1 disk can be accessed at a time, but by using this software, and
allowing 'copy to hd prior to d/l' I have had great success with my users
on my multi-node.

 * OLX 2.1 * Of all the things I've lost I miss my mind the most!


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From: BERNARD TIBBETTS                       Number: 3084
  To: LARRY CHARPIAT                           Date: 08/10/93  5:28p
Subj: Re: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> That did not answer my question.  The Pioneer DMR600 will hold six CD
-> ROM disk in a cassette in the one cd player.  Can you switch to any of
-> the 6 CD disc's without manually pressing a button on the Drive through
-> software from a menu on the BBS?

I have been using one of this things for over 6 months and like the advanages
it gives you. In response to your question, yes each cd is adressable as a
drive letter. Its your software driver that interfaces the drive to the system.

However, when you change to another drive, the pioneer has to change the
platter. This slows the access down. This is why you need a good door.

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From: RICK KOSICK                            Number: 3085
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/09/93  5:43p
Subj: MAC TITLES?                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for some good Mac cd titles to put on a BBS. Does anyone
have any good mac titles available?? If so, please contact me at (215)
638-1424 voice.....

-Rick Kosick, Modern BBS Development

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 3086
  To: PAUL SWIDER                              Date: 08/09/93 10:24p
Subj: MPC Programs                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  Henry, if you are interested in history you might want to check out
->  new 20TH Century Video Almanac by Software Toolworks. It has 164 vid
->  all kinds of pictures etc.. It is relatively new (about 6 weeks), an
Thanks! I'll check into it. If you know of any others, LET ME KNOW!!!
Thanks again,
Henry

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3087
  To: DAVID SEITZ                              Date: 08/09/93  6:20p
Subj: WHOLESALING & RETAILING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Also Please add me to your Mailing List..Thanks
->
-> --- WM v3.00/93-0188
-> * Origin: The HOTLINE BBS (215-393-8594)  (1:273/740.0)

Hi David!

   I'd be more than glad to... What's your address?

   Vince
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From: MAHMUT KURSUN                          Number: 3088
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/09/93 10:34a
Subj: GIGAGAMES                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Gigagames CDROM     39.95 US$
it's available now. 400+ MB DOS/Windows Games

Kursun CDROM Versand          +s/h and Tax within European Community
Karl-Marx-Ring 148            Pay with VISA Creditcard or COD within Europe
81737 Munich - GERMANY
tel: ++49-89-6378421
fax: ++49-89-6378429

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From: STEPHEN DURFEE                         Number: 3089
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/09/93  8:28p
Subj: <> TALON CD-ROM + SOUND CARD <>         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Talon TA-150 CD-ROM internal unit for sale.  Photo CD compatible.  350ms.
Plays audio CD's w/o software + advance track switch on face.  Comes with Mayo
Family Health, Encyclopedia, etc.  Also, 8 bit SoundBlaster compatible audio
board w/ cheap speakers and mike.  $300.  Email or call Steve at 571-8989.


=|-) Steve



ÿ

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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 3090
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/10/93 12:03a
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> )))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((
->
-> NOW IN STOCK  BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
-> period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
-> bustiest babes in North America including  Canadian gals
-> who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
-> viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.
->
->                       PRICE - $25.00
->
-> To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263
->
-> )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((
->
->
->
-> Boris Osadciw
->
-> ... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
-> --- FMail 0.96â
->  * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46)
->
Is that busty babes 3.0?


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 3091
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 08/10/93 12:04a
Subj: SegaCD's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hello!
->  I have the following SegaCD's for trade(for PC Compatible CD-Rom's)
->
->
-> Sega Classic's (Streets of Rage,Revenge of Shinobi,Columns,Golden
-> Axe)/Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective (2 CD's in double holder)
->
-> Sol-Feace
->
-> Double CD/CD+G package(various artists,including Chris Issak,Jimi
-> Hendrix,Fleetwood Mac,etc.)
->
->
-> If interested,please leave me a message here,
->
->                        Thank You,
->
->                                      Diana
->
-> --- FX-BBS V3.41á[386]r
->  * Origin: -=BerthaBoard=- Manteca, Ca. (209) 823-0093/239-9853 (1:20
->

Is that cd+g any good? My cdtv player can play that,,,what exact artists
are on it and what price do you want for it?

btw,
where did you buy that?


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 3092
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/10/93 12:10a
Subj: A FEW CHESTNUTS LEFT! 2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->              *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
->                                 pg. 2 of 2
->
->    For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of po
->                    Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!
->
-> TITLES INCLUDE:
->
-> 8.  CLIPART GOLIATH - Over 10,000 image files in PCX and TIF formats,
->     some in color-TIF/PCX, MAC, GIF, etc. Files can be imported to vi
->     every desktop publishing program! Subjects include: Americana, An
->     Business, Computing, Entertainment, Food, Holiday, Music, People,
->     Religion, Science & Medicine, Signs, Sports, Cartoons, & many mor
->
-> 9.  HAM RADIO 3.0 - Excellent collection of HAM and SWL programs and
->     Includes packet radio, satellite communications, frequency lists,
->     equipment service, design, mods, logging, news, FAX, FCC, & other
->
-> 10. COLOSSAL COOKBOOK - Over 4000 recipes, far more than the "Joy of
->     Cooking".  Includes excellent recipe cross-reference and search!
->     Includes health/nutrition guides, ethnic and regional recipes, me
->     planning, low-cholesterol diets, cooking instructions, & more!
->
-> 11. BIBLES & RELIGION - All popular New & Old Testament versions, Boo
->     Mormon, Talmud portions, lexicons & concordances, study guides,
->     organization membership & fund-raising programs, etc.
->
-> 12. SHAREWARE OVERLOAD - Over 6100 programs (550mb compressed) for al
->     applications, with an emphasis on games and Windows programs.  Su
->     include business, clipart, communications, BBS, database, educati
->     finance, games, graphics, religion, sound, utilities, Windows, &
->
-> 13. OUR SOLAR SYSTEM - Exciting NASA and observatory photos of the pl
->     moons, comets, earth, and celestial phenomena!  Includes star loc
->     planetarium programs, astronomical data, voyage simulators, + ton
->
->  ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  So Much Shareware 3
->  $25 with any Chestnut purchase!
->
->             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<
->
->  Hurry though, our stock on these is almost depleted, and once it's g
->  back to the regular price!
->
->  STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (
->  VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966
->
-> ---
->  * SLMR 2.1a * Used taglines for $ale - 8 bits each. Call 555-FUNY
->
-> --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
->  * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:
->
Send me Clipart Goliath
Colossal Cookbook
Out solar system

Vito A Servideo
1636 se 3rd court
Deerfield Beach, fl 33441

C.o.d.
Reply with total cost so I could get a money order ready


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From: B.A. CROWELL                           Number: 3093
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/10/93  6:40p
Subj: CD ROM Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike,
    I saw your ad for CD's in this echo.  Do you carry Drives as well?  If you
do I am interested in a 3 or 4 stand alone type for a BBS.  Can ya help?

                                                 Bruce Crowell
                                                 C.I.N.S. BBS
                                                 (Coming Soon)

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From: SAM FERTITTA                           Number: 3094
  To: LEE MILLIGAN                             Date: 08/06/93  8:51a
Subj: Re: adult titles                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Lee Milligan to Dave Reed <=-

 LM> * In a message originally to JOHN ROBINSON, Dave Reed said:
> JR>> Our new catalog is available for freq or download from the BBS

 > JR> Nice prices...........

 > JR>> ... If Clinton is the answer, it must have been a stupid
 LM> question!

 > JR> Stupid Mistake on your part tho...........

 > I'm proud of her.  As more of the silent majority become
 > vocal about their political feelings, Clinton's going to feel
 > like a little man in a big house, real soon now.  At this
 > rate, I'll be able to publish a CD-ROM full of Clinton's
 > mistakes by the end of summer.  He's such a joke, I'll have
 > to market it as a comedy, though.  ;-)


 > ... My Broad Based Contribution - Kick Hillory in the butt!

LM> 'Scuse me for butting in....but let me know when you compile that
 LM> 'Clinton's Mistakes' CD......I would like to purchase
 LM> one......thanks... -!- FMail 0.94

 LM,
 Yeah, I would like to buy one also. But at this rate, it might be a
 2 disker, or 3, or 7....................
 Sam.....


... The 1st thing that Clinton wanted on his desk was Flowers. ___ Blue
Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: MIKE PARISI                            Number: 3095
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  1:08p
Subj: donations                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well Im starting a program... A DONATION OF COMPUTERS... There are millions
of computers out there that are beign thrown away... And MILLIONS of KIDS
who need computers... If you send me your SOFTWARE, COMPUTERS <even broken
ones, and pieces of computers>, and utils... I will take them apart, use some
of them, then piece the parts together for kids how don't have the money for
computers. This Idea will help only if people send me there stuff... so I can
fix it up.... I WILL NOT SELL YOUR STUFF AND WILL RESPECT YOUR OPINION...
PLEASE WRIGHT BACK OR CALL ME VIA-MODEM AT 716 425-8963... I will also except
derect orders to Mike G Parisi, 24 chipping ridge, Fairport ny, 14450...

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3096
  To: MARK SMITKA                              Date: 08/10/93  1:03a
Subj: Got 'em!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>I wanted to let you know that I received my order (NightOwl 7 & 9) in fine
MS>shape. And for those that may be reading this wondering whether or not Mike
MS>lives up to his pricing policies....he does.

Glad to hear it Mark.  Whenever you have another "price challenge" for
me, don't be shy!  8)

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3097
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  1:03a
Subj: SOME NEW ADULT CD'S!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

***************************************************************************
            NEW ADULT CD'S AVAILABLE FROM STARVECTOR . . . .
***************************************************************************

 Busty Babes 3.0...............33.00    After Dark Trilogy (movies)...45.00
 All Beauties..................36.00    Southern Beauties.............35.00
 Amateur Models................35.00    Dirty Talk (movie)............59.00
 Seymore Butts Interactive.....49.00    Girls of Vivid 1 or 2.........45.00

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3098
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  1:03a
Subj: COMPTON'S INTERACTIVE!!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                     COMPTON'S INTERACTIVE ENCYCLOPEDIA
   S                  ----------------------------------
     A
       L             Retail........................$298
         E           Typical Store price...........$149
           !
                     Starvector's price.............$95!!

    Now's your chance!  Get the encyclopedia everyone's talking about.
    Compton's Interactive MPC encyclopedia has something for everyone!

    Check out these features:

        * Zooming world atlas w/ more than 121,000 hypertext links
        * Virtual workspace to open multiple windows in a virtually
          limitless workspace
        * Enhanced sound and full-motion video
        * Thousands of pictures, drawings, and photos
        * Merriam-Webster Online dictionary and thesaurus
        * Ten ways to access information
        * Free upgrade to '93 version with registration

    Requirements:  386SX/16 or better CPU, Windows 3.1, DOS 3.1+,
                   VGA display, Microsoft-compatible mouse, CD-ROM
                   drive w/ 150kb per second transfer rate or higher,
                   Microsoft CD Extensions 2.2 or higher, 4mb RAM, 8
                   or 16-bit sound card.

      Don't want to lay out $200+ for Encarta?  Compton's Interactive
      is *very* similar for A LOT LESS!  Get 'em while we've got 'em!

                                ** $95.00 **

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: TONY DAVIS                             Number: 3099
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/10/93 11:05a
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >Then there are those crazy dealers like me who like to live
 >life on the edge. I'll take ALL THE BUSTY'S I CAN GET MY HANDS ON!


You are certainly correct, you are on the edge. 

On July 20th, I was arrested and all my BBS equipment was seized. If
found guilty, I am facing 15 years / $25,000 for sale & possession of
obscene material.

That 'edge' is not a real comfortable place to be.


Tony

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From: DON BRADEN                             Number: 3100
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/10/93  6:08p
Subj: re order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike, on July 18 I faxed you an order. Did you get the fax? and Is the
order on the way? Thanks
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: STEVE PROCTOR                          Number: 3101
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93 12:21p
Subj: CDROM Drives                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a inexpensive CDROM Drive and was wondering what you all
recomend.  I will be using it for the BBS mainly, but may play a few
music CD's in it every once in awhile or even a few Multi-Media games, so
it should meet MultiMedia standards.

I have been looking at my local computer papers and see the MITSUMI with
controller going for around $185.00.  Is this a SCSI CDROM Drive?  I need
it to be SCSI as I will use it with my Adaptec 1542B or ProAudio Spectrum
Sound Card SCSI controller.

Anyone have any recomendations and some prices?

Steve



... Your Win-OS/2 BBS
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 3102
  To: MANNY CASAO                              Date: 08/10/93  2:34p
Subj: Source CDRom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> I can offer $20.00 for the Source code cdrom and will prepay if you cover
>> shipping.

    I really have to get the $20 + $5 shipping for this one.  This CDRom
is still current, and retails for $39.95, so I really don't want to go
any lower.
    Write back if you can do the $25.

Thanks,
Eric


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 3103
  To: MANNY CASAO                              Date: 08/10/93  2:37p
Subj: Source and CUG                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> EB> Source -- Gobs of C code                 $20.00   (MAR 92)
>> EB> C User's Group  -- More Gobs of C code   $20.00   (OCT 92)
>>
>> I can offer $30.00 for both of thises disks.

    Sorry, as per my last message, the source is a $39.95 disk, and the
CUG is $49.95 (retail).  I really have to get the $40.00 + $5.00 shipping
for both.

Eric


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 3104
  To: MANNY CASAO                              Date: 08/10/93  4:45p
Subj: Re:                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Do These CDROM drives come  in the original box?
>Are any docs or manuals included? Cables?

Box, no.  These are originally Intergraph pulls. Manuals-Yes. Cables-Yes,
power supply for external.

>What type of warranty in included?

30 days replacement or refund.


*FSED91j*
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From: LEN BUSSEY                             Number: 3105
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 08/09/93  3:12a
Subj: Re: Re:Cd Swap                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SF>Len,
SF>Starvector 208 is a shareware cd with 208 meg of shareware! Its not
SF>all that bad for a small cd!

If you wish I'll trade you SWOTL, Monkey Island, or Loom for the
Starvector 208 CD.

SF>       Do you have anything else to trade!

That's about it.  I just recently got my CD-ROM and don't have too much
in the way of software yet.  I have an encyclopedia, atlases, an
animals CD etc.. but am not interested in parting with these.  I need
the shareware CD for my BBS.  Call me voice 659-9216 if still
interested in trading.  I'll pay shipping.

                                    Len

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 3106
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93 10:45a
Subj: SCSI CDROM                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



SCSI CDROMs For Sale:

Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00

Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac.  Features 50 Pin True SCSI, 
300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and 64k Buffer.
Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty

205-837-5053 anytime.




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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3107
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 08/10/93 11:04a
Subj: RE: NIGHTOWL                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> VS>    How about $35Cdn (about $25 US)?
-> VS>
->
->    Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for
->
->                     $ 25.00 a Copy !!!
->
->                     ******************
->
->             Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
->                    it will be higher.
Hi Kevin!

    Tell you what - I'll give you as many copies of Night Owl 9 as YOU
would like  for

                      $ 24.50 a Copy !!!

                      ******************

     Tell them Vince sent you, or the price will be the same.

CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA
306-789-4654
Less Hype, Better Value

     Vince
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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 3108
  To: MARIO DI MAMBRO                          Date: 08/10/93 10:57p
Subj: Encyclopedia                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Mario,  you can get them for about $55 new you know.


    And thats MPC.

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From: STEVE JONES                            Number: 3109
  To: CHRIS WISE                               Date: 08/05/93  9:35a
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST AND MIT                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

A related question -- I have a Mitsumi internal CD-ROM and I have asked the
following question, locally, with no luck:
 
Does SBPRO effectively run a Mitsumi CD-ROM, without needing a separate
CD-ROM drive host adapter?

Same question applies to SBPRO ASP/16...

Steve sends


... Catch the Blue Wave!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 3110
  To: EDWARD CROUSER                           Date: 08/10/93 11:37a
Subj: Re: THE 7TH GUEST                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EC>       Nope...I wuz just wondering since you obviously were annoyed by
EC>nothing much. I don't care what your political view is, as long as you
EC>have the right
EC>and ability to express it. There is a thing called "the consititution"
EC>you know?
EC>                                                               Edward
 Yes I do, and you should listen to your own bantering. He was expressing his
right to free speech. Since that barrier was broken down, I expressed my own
right to free speech by answering. If you wish to discuss political views,
let's switch to a differant
conferance. That was my original meaning, though I realize I wasn't real clear
on it. This echo is for other things. I will not entertain further political
exchange in this echo.
     

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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 3111
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 08/10/93 12:25p
Subj: RE: THE 7TH GUEST                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Israel, just caught Edward's reply to your message, assume it was to 
 > me?
 > You must've mispelled my last name when sending the reply as I never 
 > got it,
I might have misspelled it, don't know.


 > but guess the type-o w/my last name was similar to the mistake you 
 > may have
 > made in the voting booth ;)

If you saw the other messages I sent to him you would have seen that I didn't
vote for Clinton. You would have also seen my message about assuming without
thinking or asking.


 > "distaste of forwarding their unsolicited political views" ?!?  
 > Guess that
 > means you no longer buy newspapers due to the "unsolicited political 
 > views"

I do read newpapers, and expect political views there.


 > from business and I'll be happy to talk w/you... until then, "Don't 
 > blame me,
 > I voted for..." well, you know the rest!

I do know the rest. I wrote in Howard Phillips Lovecraft.



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From: HARRY WHEAT                            Number: 3112
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93 10:07p
Subj: 6 disk cd-rom changer                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a BBS program that will run a 6 disk Cd-rom changer on a BBS.
I have looked all over and can't find anything. If anyone knows of anything
please leave me a message.    Thank's                 
                                          Harry Wheat.......


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From: ROBERT BIR                             Number: 3113
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 08/09/93 10:30p
Subj: Trade adult CD for Adult                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 hello i have  xxx extreme if your still interested.
             leave me mail
                     ROBERT A BIR
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From: WES TAPP                               Number: 3114
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  1:29a
Subj: Programming                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a good CD with C and C++ code on it.  Preferably a '93
printing.  I need good code not the grabage on the normal (NightOwl) CD's.
(sorry about the spelling)  Let me know the title, yourname, an idea of what is
on the CD and a bid on it.  Thanks.
* SPITFIRE v3.3
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From: WES TAPP                               Number: 3115
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  1:31a
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to work with QEMM.  The
driver is a TSR and should be able to be moved around by QEMM.  Perplexed
beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.  Any ideas would help.
* SPITFIRE v3.3
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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 3116
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93  2:19a
Subj: Jem Disc I $19.95 or less!              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WHY NEWER ISN'T ALWAYS BETTER (or why Jem Disc I is stil a great deal!) :-)

Is newer always better when it comes to CD-Rom shareware collections?  At
Jewel Distributing we say NO!

Often on BBS echoes you will see ads that make claims such as '99.99999% of
our files are dated from 6/93 on!!!' or 'On our disc, exactly 4 files out of
7469 are older than 3 months!!!'.  While this type of claim does sound
impressive - don't be fooled, there's still a lot to be said for carefully
compiled discs that contain older archives too.  Jem Disc I is one of these
discs.

Consider:

Suspose you are a modem enthusiast (we think you might be since you are
reading this on a BBS):  Our disc contains a lot wonderful programs that you
might miss out on if you only stick to the newest compilation.

For instance Jem Disc contains awesome (and stable) versions of TELIX,
PROCOMM, QMODEM (b4 & after Mustang bought it), TELEMATE, COMMO, BOYAN, GT
POWERCOM, LYNX, and many others all on the same disc.  When you're ready to
try out external protocols you'll find essentials like DSZ, HSLINK & BIMODEM
and also the oddballs like  MPT, JMODEM, HYPER, CMODEM, SEALINK. To get up and
running quickly try Byte Brothers classic POWERNODE.

Try finding the last Forbin project version of Qmodem (4.31) on one of the
'latest' discs. And speaking of Boyan v5.0 - that IS the latest version of
the program.  Some authors don't see the need to upgrade perfectly good
software every other week.

Think about DSZ for a second - it's a great protocol, but have you _really_
noticed that much of a difference between the '92 version on Jem Disc I and
the more recent release?  We didn't think so.  Another point to ponder -
sometimes an author adds features that aren't to your liking, for instead of
removing a bug he _introduces_ a bug with a new version. It's good to have the
old and the new around.

Finally, sometimes authors get feature fever or technology crazy (perhaps
because of all the great computer equipment they can afford from user
registrations).  When this appens, you can't even _run_ the latest version of
a program.  What good is having a Summer '93 release of
SUPERTELEMODEMPLUS when the dang thing needs 8 megs of memory just to get off
the ground?  All the sudden the newest release lost a lot of its luster.

Oh well, you get the idea.  Newer isn't always better - So consider adding a
disc full of 'classics' to round out your collection.  One of the best is Jem
Disc I - now only $19.95 plus shipping or handling OR for a limited time only
$14.95 (straight up!) IF you trade in one of your yucky discs (in good,
resellable condition).  Mind you, the files aren't THAT old - after all Jem
Disc I was pressed less than one year ago, but in the hypertime of Shareware
Land that seems like an eternity to some.

FREQ from 1:203/49 JEMDISC and/or JEMTRADE & while you are here pick up
JEMFILES for a complete listing of ALL the kuel files on the collection (in
FILES.BBS format).  If you can't FREQ, call my BBS at 916-921-9949 and
download these from my logon matrix (enter JEM at the DOS prompt).

If you stayed with me this far - thanks!  And Freq these files - you won't
regret it!

Michael Crosson
Jewel Distributing


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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 3117
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93  3:52a
Subj: 20th century almanac                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                ---  FOR SALE or TRADE  ---


                20th Century Video Almanac

        This multimedia reference disk uses one of the
        worlds largest historical film archives to produce
        a visual encyclopedia of the century with video,
        audio, photos, and text.

        -Touch down on the Moon with the Apollo astronauts.
        -Relive Woodstock.
        -Attend President Kennedy's inauguration.
        -Take a front row seat for the incredible 1916
         World Series.

        Disk is in MINT condition, approx. 2 weeks old

        Would like to trade for disks of other titles,
        preferably quality Adult disks or Shareware Titles.
        Or will accept cash offer from highest bidder <g>

                Todd

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From: DANIEL HAGAN                           Number: 3118
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 08/10/93  7:42p
Subj: NIGHTOWL                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >                Call Free Spirit And ask for Barney !
 >                       ******************
 >                         1-800-638-5757

Does Free Spirit still monitor this echo?  There was a guy that used to beat
everyone's prices but I haven't seen him lately.

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From: JACK HUDDLE                            Number: 3119
  To: BOB ROSOL                                Date: 08/08/93  6:01p
Subj: NEW Corel ArtShow 3 CD &                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    BR>Jack- BR>I sold this one, but I may have another soon.
 BR>I'll let you know.

Bob If it is same condition and same price just send it to me!
JACK HUDDLE 8440 BLACKLICK EASTERN RD PICKERINGTON, OHIO 43147

 * SLMR 2.0 #1626 * I could have had a V8, But got a GOLDWING instead!!


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From: MARK GUTT                              Number: 3120
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  9:30p
Subj: cd rom software for sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I HAVE THE FOLLOWING CD ROM's FOR SALE:


THE 7th GUEST............................$35.00

ECOQUEST "THE SEARCH FOR CETUS"
by SIERRA (CHILDRENS ADVENTURE GAME).....$32.00


Both include original box, documentation, registration
cards and are in excellent condition. If interested,
post here, or call (414) 734-4090.


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From: ZACHARY HAMM                           Number: 3121
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93 12:34p
Subj: DAK CD-ROM SUPPORT                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does Anybody have the Tech Support Number for BSR for the BSR CD-ROM
Drive that DAK sold?  DAK will not support the warranty after 30 days.


Zack Hamm


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From: BEN ACKERMAN                           Number: 3122
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  6:05p
Subj: Problems w/ CD-ROMs                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have seen a few people complaining about their Mitsumi CD-ROM drives.. I have
found that my Mitsumi is particularly sensitive to a dirty disc. I had problems
with reading a particular disc. All it took was a wipe with a damp cloth. If
your having problems with hit or miss reading or reading errors this is
something you might want to try. I would not recomend using a paper towel as
they tend to leave little pits of paper on the disc which could scratch it.. I
use a felt cloth that I got to clean my guitar. Most of the time I don't even
need to wet the cloth.. just wipe it down. The Mitsumi I have is especially
sensitive to dirt... This always seems to work.

-Ben


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From: ALAN WILLIAMS                          Number: 3123
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 08/07/93  9:02a
Subj: ADULT TITLES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->(1:300/9)


-> APPARENTLY THERE ARE MORE THAN DAVE REEDS THAN JUST I. THE RESPONSE
-> DATE WAS JUST TWO DAYS AGO AND I HAVE NOT BEEN ON THIS BBS SINCE MAY
-> WHEN I CALLED TO GET MY LOD REGISTRATION. MANY REGRETS TO WHOEVER
-> THIS MESSAGE WAS ACTUALLY INTENDED FOR... I KNOW NOT WHO HAS BEEN ON
-> THIS BBS USING MY NAME AND PASSWORD, PERHAPS I SHOULD CHANGE MY
-> INFO.....

That may be a bit excessive.....after several years of BBSing I have now 
encountered two other users who have the same name and spelling as I do. 
This does not indicate that they have access to my password, simply that 
we work in different parts of the world. In the event that more than 
one of us happen to use the same BBS system, obviously one of us has to 
alter our name in order for both of us to use the system, since only a 
single registration is permitted per system under a given user name.

To check whether or not your access has been usurped, note when you last 
used the BBS, the check your user profile the next time that you log 
into the system. For example, with PCBoard, it tells you exactly when 
the last call was (date and time), so it is easy to verify that you are 
the only person using your information.

Hope this puts you at ease.

Cheers,

Al

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From: LEE MILLIGAN                           Number: 3124
  To: GLENN JONES                              Date: 08/11/93  5:26p
Subj: CD Rom Help                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to All, Glenn Jones said:
 > Could somone help me?  What do I look for in a CD-ROM?  What
 > I'm looking for is a internal CD-ROM.  Speed, KBytes/Second,
 > Speed????

 > I'm SO CONFUSED!!!

 > Thanks,
 > Glenn

 > --- InterMail/RA/Gecho
 >  * Origin: The CatWalk BBS  Davie, Fl  305-370-3528  ZyXel
 > 19.2K V.32B (1:369/8)
Depending on what you want it for....
If you are looking for a good Multimedia drive you would want something in the
200-250 ms speed and 150-200 KB/sec range....if it's for a BBS you could use a
slower one.....
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3125
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 08/10/93  2:56p
Subj: Re: NIGHTOWL                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

VS>    How about $35Cdn (about $25 US)?
VS> 

     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!


               Call Free Spirit And ask for Barney !
                      ******************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 3126
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  2:58p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Special.... for 1 week I'm offering used Hitachi 3500 internal cd rom drives
for $99.   I have about 20 left.  30 day warranty included.   205-824-2552


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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3127
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  3:01p
Subj: Mitsumi Support                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
Mistumi Electric Co.
 
Dallas Office:
6210 N. Beltline Rd. Ste. 320
Irving, TX
Tel: 214-550-7300
FAX: 214-550-7424
 
NY
35 Pinelwan Rd.
Melville, NY 11747
Tel: 516-752-7730
FAX: 516-752-7490
 
Chicago
2101 Arlington Heights Rd.
Arlington Heights, IL 60005
Tel: 708-593-7600
Fax: 708-593-7610
 
Santa Clara
4655 Old Ironsides Dr. Ste. 130
Santa Clara, CA 95040
Tel: 408-970-0700
Fax: 408-727-5337

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3128
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  3:01p
Subj: So Much Shareware III                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

So Much Shareware III $21
Yes, we are selling Night Owl's 9 also for the same price. We also have
hundreds of other titles in stock. For a catalog FREQ CATALOG from 1:138/116 or
1:138/120
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
1-206-473-1634 or 1-800-277-5179 FAX
All major credit cards accepted 

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3129
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  3:01p
Subj: Liquadation Discs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD PowerBox $12
CD Winbox   $12
Night Owl's v.9 $21
 
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX 

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3130
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  3:01p
Subj: Walnut Creek Releases                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We now have Giga Games in stock!..
Also CICA Windows will be updated next week. We do carry entire line of Walnut
Creek.
 
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX 

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 3131
  To: KEITH TOWNSEND                           Date: 08/10/93  3:01p
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hiya, Keith!
On Aug 04, Keith Townsend spake thusly to Michael Konor:

 KT>   Like I said the Drive I bought from you seems to be 
 KT> working fine..However about once every 15 second the LED 
 KT> turns on and off again..this does this continously..Sounds 
 KT> like unnecessary Disk access to me..Is this normal for these 
 KT> Toshiba drives or could it be a termination thing (It's the 
 KT> only SCSI device)..It seems to do it witth both the Asim and 
 KT> the CBM software so I don't think It's a software 
 KT> thing...Please leave me a note in case I'm worrying for 
 KT> nothing...Thanx

i bought 2 CDs from michael konor, and the first drive does that (the led
blinks all the time) but the 2nd one doesnt!  go figure...  


\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2

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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 3132
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 08/10/93  3:01p
Subj: Re: The 7Th Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            -=> Quoting Israel Gomberg to Mark Johnsen <=-

 MJ>... Clinton will tax wealthy Americans. Congratulations! You're rich!

 IG> I might have been interested, but I don't do buisness with people who
 IG> show the  distaste of forwarding their unsolicited political views.

 EC> Why don't you rephrase that? What you really meant was, "I
 EC> voted for Clinton and now I'm too embarrassed to tell anyone".
 EC> Edward

Israel, just caught Edward's reply to your message, assume it was to me?
You must've mispelled my last name when sending the reply as I never got it,
but guess the type-o w/my last name was similar to the mistake you may have
made in the voting booth ;)

"distaste of forwarding their unsolicited political views" ?!?  Guess that
means you no longer buy newspapers due to the "unsolicited political views"
run daily, known as political satire...  Let me guess, it was OK for
Dunesberry to run four years of invisible man jokes, but the current material
is "distasteful" ?  Let me know when you're ready to seperate tagline humor
from business and I'll be happy to talk w/you... until then, "Don't blame me,
I voted for..." well, you know the rest!

Regards.

,\\ark



 
... "C'mon Honey, let me sit in the chair today" - Bill Clinton
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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 3133
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  3:12p
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                  ****  Digital Enterprises  ****
                       Custom CDROM Service

  Our CDROM Recorder is fired up, and ready to serve you!   We can
  produce a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive
  overnight!

   o Complete confidentiality assured.  Your data will NOT be pilfered.
   o Free up Megabytes of expensive magnetic media.
   o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
   o Use as a master to transfer data to a pressing facility.
   o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
   o Great for:  BBS Files, Document Imaging, Permanent Archival
                 Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
   o In MOST cases, 24 hour turnaround is possible.
   o Free UPS Blue label shipping to the Continental U.S.
   o COMING SOON!  Compact Disk AUDIO Production!  COMING SOON!

Pricing for Custom CD production:

o 527 Meg:  o $1 per megabyte UP TO $139.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 139MB
            o Minimum charge $85 for less than 85MB.
            o $50 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o 650 Meg:  o $1 per Megabyte UP TO $144.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 144MB
            o Minimum charge $90 for less than 90MB.
            o $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o CD Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee.

o UPS RED Label shipping is $15 extra.


   Data formats Supported:               Software Supported:
 ---------------------------           ----------------------- o 60MB
DC600/6XXX Streaming Tape.  o Sytos Plus o Mountain Filesafe
                                   o Everex Tape

o QIC 40/80  (Colorado Jumbo 250)  o PCTools o Colorado Software

o Floppy (At additional cost)      o Fastback 3.0 o PCTools

o Hard Disk

** 4mm DAT, and 125/250MB 5.25" Streaming tape will be available SOON **

Terms:

  Prepay for service via Certified check or money order.  Personal
  checks must clear bank before production begins.  SORRY, we are
  not able to accept your Visa/Mastercard at this time.

*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***
 For the months of July and August, all orders qualify
 for a 10% discount from our CURRENT pricing.  Offer
 ends August 31, 1993.
*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***

Notice:

Digital will NOT be a party to the creation of "elite", or pirated software
collections on CDROM.  Such activity is morally WRONG and illegal.  If this is
your intention, please do not waste my time or yours.

For further information, please File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node
1:239/900.0 at V.32bis speeds, or call our voice number.

Loyd Craft
Digital Enterprises (Name recently changed) 517-865-6800 Voice (11:00 AM -
6:00PM Monday - Saturday) 517-865-6066 (Customer Support BBS) 1:239/900.0
(Fidonet)

===
 * OLX 2.1 * Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3134
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 08/10/93  3:12p
Subj: Re: WHILE THEY LAST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    In a message of <01 Aug 93  01:59:05>, Boris Osadciw
>>    (1:157/46) writes:

>>    Go ahead and send these C.O.D. to me
>>    Learning Adventure
>>    Colossal CookBook
>>    Technotools (2 copies)
>>    Plus 4 caddies
>>    I am sure you have my address by now <grin>.


On it's way...thanks....

Boris Osadciw

... I'm too sexy! You know what I mean!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3135
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/10/93  3:13p
Subj: Re:  Disk                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BO>> >>    Hi Boris, Did you recieve my order on Sat. July 30 for Bus
 BO>> >>    Babes 1.? I left it on your electronic order desk. Thanks,
 BO>> >>     Ron.
 BO>>
 BO>> Yes, but I didn't send it as maybe you thought it would be a low
 BO>> cd. The current bid on this cd is $300. so I didn't think you wa
 BO>> to charge you card with that amount.
>>
>>
>>    This is a joke, isn't it Boris??

Not at all BOB, in fact we now have an offer of $350. for this disk.

Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3136
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/10/93  3:13p
Subj: Re: POST?                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Boris,
>>
>>    One of my customers said you posted a message to me?  If so,
>>    please repost it because I didn't receive it.  If not, sorry
>>    to bother you.
>>    Later,

I did ??? That's news to me !!

Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3137
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  6:32p
Subj: CANADIAN CD-ROM SOURCE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

***********************************************************************
CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA                         306-789-4654 Voice
6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7                 306-789-8690 Fax
***********************************************************************
Prices Effective August 8, 1993

ADULT TITLES                   Pricing in Canadian Funds    (Cdn=1.3US)

101 Positions 1 & 2 XXX    $75 Each Sold Separately; Professionally
                               produced adult education oriented movies.
                               High Colour w/motion & Sound. *X101
Adult Palate XXX           $45 Superior collection of movie stills in
                               hi-res format. Windows Required. *XAP
Adult Reference Library    $40 500 Meg. 2500 GIFs. Fetishes Galore. Well
                               scanned. User friendly. *XARL
After Dark Trilogy XXX     $55 New collection of movie shorts. Video for
                               Windows included. *XADT
Amateur Models X           $45 Over 500 NEW Centrefold type pictures.
                               All 1024x768 Resolution or 24 bit colour.
                               BBS Ready. *XAM
Best of Vivid Clips XXX    $75 Full motion segments of your Vivid
                               favorites. Watch for Ginger, Barbara,
                               Hyaptia, Savannah, Christy, and more!
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3138
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  6:33p
Subj: CANADIAN CD-ROM SOURCE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

***********************************************************************
CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA                         306-789-4654 Voice
6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7                 306-789-8690 Fax
***********************************************************************
Prices Effective August 8, 1993            ...Call for Current Specials

ADULT TITLES                           All Pricing is in Canadian Funds
                                                     (Cdn=1.3xUS Funds)

Girls of Vivid/Still XXX   $65 Over 500 hand-picked slides of VIVID
                               Beauties in True Color, Guaranteed, No
                               2 screens the same. Pick your favorite.
Hidden Obsessions XXX      $70 Fractal Compression makes this a cutting
                               edge video production, and the topic says
                               it all. One of the BEST of the year.
Hot Pix 2/3/4/5 ea. XXX    $40 (2) 530 Meg Adult Scans & Amusements
                               (3) 630 Meg (4) Best of Windy City
                               Scans (5) Just released! All BBS Ready.
House of Dreams XXX        $70 Mind blowing exotic fantasy movie from
                               Andrew Blake, creator of Hidden
Obsessions.
                               DOS Fractal/MAC QuickTime (Specify PC or
                               MAC)
Kama Sutra - Movie XXX     $75 Beautifully filmed Indian documentary.
                               Peacefully narrated in a story type
                               setting. Complete feature with colour,
                               sound & motion.
My First Time XXX          $70 80 minute 2 disc set. Adult Movie. DOS
                               based. Full screen or third screen. *XMFT
Nightwatch (PC/MAC) XXX    $70 Interactive adult adventure. This one is
                               fun! Check out the actions as you make
                               the rounds from the beach to the bedroom!
Photo Gallery R (DOS)      $45 The best works of Stephen Hicks, from
Photo Gallery R (MAC)      $50 ...a Penthouse shoot.
Seedy Rom Movie Disc 1 XXX $50 Best of pro & amateur adult full colour
                               with sound. Over 1 hour of videos.
*XSEEDY
Seymore Butts (PC/MAC) XXX $70 Full Length Movie (100 Minutes). Join
                               Seymore as he explores his neighbourhood
to
                               meet and mate the girl of his dreams.
                               *Recommended*            *XSBUTT
Smutware XXX               $40 640 meg. 1000 1024x768x256 colour photos,
                               2000 800x600. 100 Adult Animations. BBS
                               Ready.                   *XSMUT
Southern Beauties X        $50 1000 HiRes GIFs at 1024x768 from
                               Original 35MM slides.    *XSB
Storm 2/3 XXX              $40 Lots of naughty variety. BBS Ready.
Wicked XXX                 $80 Hot new adult disc! The first PHOTO-CD
                               adult disc contains stills taken during
                               the shooting of the new Teri Weigel XXX
                               movie, "Wicked".         *XWICK
Xtreme (Imported/Europe)   $40 Best of overseas scans & animations, all
                               on one disc.             *XTREME
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3139
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  6:34p
Subj: CANADIAN CD-ROM SOURCE                  Refer: NONE
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GENERAL TITLES                         All Pricing is in Canadian Funds
                                                     (Cdn=1.3xUS Funds)

5 Star MS DOS Volume 2      $35  A premium collection of files for
MS-DOS
                                 1992-1993. Online Order Code: *5D2
5 Star MS Windows Volume 1  $40  A premium collection of files for
                                 Windows 1992-1993. Includes 950 Bonus
                                 OS2 files. Online Order Code: *5W1
American Business Phoneb'k  $40  Information on 11 Million Canadian and
                                 American businesses. *ABP
Animals Multimedia DOS/MAC  $45  Specialexhibits, guided tours, &
stories
                                 from the San Diego Zoo; 200 mammals,
                                 birds, reptiles. Excellent Multimedia
                                 presentation. *AM
Arthur's Teacher Trouble    $40  Educational w/music & animations.
                                 Teaches reading & objec recognition.
*ATT
Barney Bear Goes to School  $35  Interactive story of the first day at
                                 school. Ages 3-8. *BSC
Barney Bear Goes to Space   $35  Ages 3-8. Animation, games, & stories
to
                                 present facts about space. *BSP
Bibles and Religion         $25  New& Old Testament, Book of Mormons,
                                 Lexicons, study guides, more! *B&R
Business Master             $30  1100 quality programs. Over 600 meg.
                                 Lots of clip art. *BM
CD Winbox                   $45  650 Meg, 6000+ Windows based files for
                                 3.x and NT. BBS Ready. *CWB
Clip Art Goliath            $25  11000+ image files TIF/PCX/MAC/GIF,
some
                                 colour. Many subjects. *CAG
ColorMagic (PC/MAC)         $40  Over 600 meg of 3D COLOR clip art.
                                 Royalty free, read-me file in 5
                                 languages. Windows & MAC Librarian
                                 included.
Colossal Cookbook           $25  4000+ recipes, with cross
                                 reference/search! Health and Nutrition
                                 guides.
Complete Bookshop           $25  Includes Classics, Poetry, Humour,
                                 Cookbooks, History, and more!
Dictionaries & Languages    $25  Giant compilation of Dictionaries,
                                 Thesauruses, Word Processors, Style
                                 Checkers, Glossaries, Cross Refs, Much
                                 More!
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3140
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  6:34p
Subj: CD-ROMS FROM CANADA                     Refer: NONE
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GENERAL TITLES                         All Pricing is in Canadian Funds
                                                     (Cdn=1.3xUS Funds)

Learning French              $55 Learn French the easy way, with sound
                                 and songs! *LF
Mantis                       $35 Sega Space adventure, enhanced for CD.
                                 25 action packed missions, includes
                                 SpeechPak & Sound Features. *MAN
Mario is Missing/World Atlas $40 The ever popular Nintendo games w/World
                                 Atlas as a bonus. *MAR
Mayo Clinic                  $40 Family Health Book. Interactive. MPC
                                 Super illustrations and Animations on
                                 health and medical topics. *MAY
Mixed Up Mother Goose        $35 Interactive children's game, based on
                                 fairy tales. Requires no reading
skills.
                                 Digitized voices and animation. *MUMG
Monster Disc (2 disc set)    $50 1300 Meg 1992/1993. *MD2
                                 List/view/tag/copy/unzip/search. Manual
                                 included!
Monster Media '93            $45 1993 Update for Jan-Apr 1993. 400+ Meg
                                 of new files, all 1993. No Duplicates.
                                 Published 3 times per year. *MM3
National Parks               $35 Tour of the National Parks w/slide show
                                 & video clips *NP
Night Owl 9                  $40 Latest shareware releases from one of
                                 the best series. BBS ready. *NO9
Our Solar System             $25 Exciting NASA and Observatory photos of
                                 planets, moons, comets, Earth &
                                 celestial phenomena! Voyage Simulators,
                                 more! *OSS
P.C. Sig #12                 $35 Extremely well done shareware disc,
                                 latest in series. Excellent interface.
                                 *PSIG
Pinocotheca Multimedia       $30 MPC presentation of scores of Classical
                                 Paintings, Life Stories, and Works of
                                 800 Painters. *PIM
Precision Mapping           $135 Street Mapping program that also allows
                                 you to cut & paste, integrate, print,
                                 search, calc mileage. Includes Phone
                                 Book. *PRM
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3141
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  6:35p
Subj: CD-ROM SPECIALS                         Refer: NONE
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Package Specials                       All Pricing is in Canadian Funds
                                                     (Cdn=1.3xUS Funds)

Games Pak                $199  Includes Golden Immortal (RP), 7th Guest
                               (OEM), House of Games, Games '93, Space
                               Quest 4, and King's Quest 5 *GPAK
Adult Pak                $199  Includes Seedy Rom Movies, Dirty Talk,
                               My First Time, and Southern Beauties or
                               Busty Babes. *APAK-S OR *APAK-B
Exploration Pak          $129  Includes World Vista Atlas, American
                               Vista Atlas, and Multimedia Animals
                               Encyclopedia. All MPC. *EPAK
Bikini Magic Set         $40   Women of Venus & Color Magic *BPAK
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Subj: CLEAROUT                                Refer: NONE
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                                       All Pricing is in Canadian Funds
Clearout Specials - While Quantities Last            (Cdn=1.3xUS Funds)

Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego Deluxe Edition ($78) ***  Home
Library  - 250 Titles ($85) ***  Beauty and the Beast ($40) ***
Cautious Condor ($50) ***  Destination Mars ($38) ***  Wing Commander
($75) *** Stellar 7 ($48) ***  Guiness Book of Records ($67) ***
Shakespear ($26) ***  Talking Jungle ($83) ***  Peter Wolf ($40) ***
Jones in the Fast Lane ($48) *** Starchild ($40) *** CD Game Pak II
($75) *** CD Game Collection ($52) ***  CD Cookbook ($78) ***  Pier 1
($35)
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3143
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  6:55p
Subj: FREE CD-ROM                             Refer: NONE
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                 ...August Special...

Night Owl 9... $35 Canadian all taxes included.
Buy Night Owl 9 and any other of our many instock CD-ROMs,
and receive a 640 Meg Shareware CD-ROM absolutely free.

Contact:
CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA          or our agent
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From: DON BRADEN                             Number: 3144
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/11/93  4:53p
Subj: re order                                Refer: NONE
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Mike I learned today that the order is at customs in Ottawa awaiting their
determination of the tariff. I will undoubtably hear from them in the
course of time.

___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: SHANE HEDRICK                          Number: 3145
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/11/93  4:03p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom List                         Refer: NONE
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 MC> all  the CD's we carry, please tell me your address, and we will send
 MC> one to  you.  
 MC> Mark

     Shane Hedrick
     204 E. QuailCreek #B29
     Cushing  OK, 74023

                        Thanks



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From: SHANE HEDRICK                          Number: 3146
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93  4:32p
Subj: Microsoft Office                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone interested in a copy of Microsoft Office on CD?  Would like to trade for
Kings Quest 6 or 7th Guest + a couple of shareware CD's.  Or make an offer.



... "C'mon Honey, let me sit in the chair today" - Bill Clinton
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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 3147
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/10/93  6:32p
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (07 Aug 93) Mark Clardy wrote to All...
 MC>   If anyone would like for Computer Works BBS to mail them A list
 MC> of all the CD's we carry, please tell me your address, and we will
 MC> send one to you.  Thank you for your time.

  Hello Mark.  Yes I would like the list of "ALL" the CD's your carry.
  Please mail to:
                  Max Green
                  399 Westmeade Dr
                  Gretna, LA. 70056

  Thank you.

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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 3148
  To: RON COLEMAN                              Date: 08/10/93  9:55p
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
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 On 08-08-93 Ron Coleman wrote to All... 
 
 RC> Can someone tell me a good quality Adult Cd that has Gif's and 
 RC> animations for 
 RC> a reasonable cost like around $30 to $40 ? Or any one have a used one 
 
Ron, How's $12.95 plus $6.00 postage / handling sound ? Call a place called 
Profit Publishing 1-800-843-7990 and ask for T & A to the Max ($12.95). While 
you are at it ask for their free (with every order) Demo disk. It has a great 
CDBENCH program on it, along with a bit of everything else (no X rated on the 
demo). I saw the ad in the Aug. Computer Shopper and got it. Worth the price. 
Hope this helps. >Paul< 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50  "What if there were no hypothetical situations?" 

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From: JOHN TRIMBACK                          Number: 3149
  To: ROB O'DELL                               Date: 08/10/93 11:33p
Subj: Re: NEC CDR-73/83                       Refer: NONE
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Hey rob...i have a (almost new) 340meg IBM scsi drive i could trade, memory 1,
2 , 4meg simms, Microsoft Powerpoint 3.0 and Microsoft Excel v4.0 for Mac and
maybe some other stuff to trade for 2 internals..leave mail if interested


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From: JOHN TRIMBACK                          Number: 3150
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 08/10/93 11:34p
Subj: Re: CDROM Drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hey mike, i have 340 meg scsi2 (ibm) harddrive (almost brand new), 1,2,4 meg
simms and microsoft excel 4.0 & powerpoint v3.0 for Mac i can trade or maybe
something else to get 2 internal cd rom drives..let me know...


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From: CHRIS WISE                             Number: 3151
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/10/93  8:23p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          Terry Blount wrote
----------------------------------------
>>Special.... for 1 week I'm offering used Hitachi 3500 internal cd rom
>>drives for $99.   I have about 20 left.  30 day warranty
>>included.   205-824-2552
----------------------------------------

I will take one, what is the access time and transfer rate and your address...


Lee Christopher Wise
===
 * TLX v3.00 * Be Nice to Your Enemies, It Drives Them Nuts.


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3152
  To: CHAD STUDY                               Date: 08/11/93  1:30a
Subj: AMIGA CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS>Would someone please make a decent CD with Amiga Shareware / PD files on it.

Chad,

We now have the new Aminet Amiga CD's from Walnut Creek.  Lots of new
files, but still the same type of file descriptions.  Anyway, you might
want to check it out for 15 bucks.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3153
  To: MING CHAN                                Date: 08/11/93  1:30a
Subj: NIGHTOWL                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MC>I am interested in the following title:
MC>PC-Pix I 646MB,5500+ Gifs,200+ Movies Discription,Nightlog
MC>Images,Gabby's Lounge,Garlique Graphics,Twilight Zone,
MC>Prizm,Farmer Daughter & Suger Magnolia 05/92

Ming,

If Vince doesn't have it, we stock them at $30 + $5 s/h to Canada.
No extra charge for VISA.

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3154
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93  1:30a
Subj: PROPHONE 93 ONLY $115!!                 Refer: NONE
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                               PRO-PHONE 1993
          $115!!                                            $115!
                               NOW IN STOCK!!

Pro-Phone is the first affordable national telephone directory on CD-ROM.
It is the convenient way to access information contained in thousands of
telephone books from your PC.  The seven disc set contains telephone
listings from every city in the U.S.!  Also included is the National
Business Edition and six regional residential editions.  Listings consist
of complete mailing address, phone number, business heading, SIC code, and
even number of employees!

Look up telephone directory information by telphone number, address,
Standard Industrial Classification (SIC) code, Business heading, or by
name.  You can output all listings to printer or disk file in seconds.

        * Multiple indexing for look-ups by name, address, and telephone
          number.
        * Locate businesses anywhere in the U.S.
        * Find lost friends and family in seconds.
        * Look up phone numbers fast.
        * Match a name and address from only a phone number!
        * Trace family genealogy
        * Downloadable into plain ASCII text format.
        * Prints mailing labels.
        * Autodial highlighted numbers (modem required)
        * Use features not available from operator assistance.

          Our price: $115

This is a definite "MUST HAVE" CD collection.  Get the set that just made
phone books and directory assistance obsolete!!!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3155
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93  1:30a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 August 1993              ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST         Last update: 8/06
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------

 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    PC-PIX 2......................30.00
 After Dark Trilogy (New!).....45.00    PC-PIX 3......................30.00
 All Beauties (New!)...........36.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 Amateur Models (New!).........35.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Animation Fantasies 1 or 2....29.00    Porkware 2 (New!).............37.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Busty Babes 3.0...............33.00    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........29.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Erotic Encounters.............36.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........49.00
 Girls of Vivid 1 (New!).......45.00    Seymore Butts Interactive.....49.00
 Girls of Vivid 2 (New!).......45.00    Smutware......................32.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................29.00    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................29.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......35.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................29.00    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............29.00    Storm 2.......................28.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00    Storm 3.......................28.00
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....39.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 Nightwatch Interactive........49.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 PC-PIX 1......................30.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

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 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
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From: NATE LAWSON                            Number: 3156
  To: GIL MACHIN                               Date: 08/10/93 11:42p
Subj: Re: 7th guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Check out what Gil Machin wrote on 05 Aug 93  09:22:00:

 GM> Think Hard Now!  Which One is Shinola?

NL>I am very interested in the 7th Guest CD.  The lowest price 
NL>I have seen has been $49 through mail order.  Anyone have a 
NL>used version?  Seen a lower price?


 GM> In Kansas City Mo. Sam's Club Warehouse has it for $45 plus some
 GM> change. 
 GM> This is about $5 Cheaper that anyware else in town. 
 GM>                                                      Gil

 GM> ___ WinQwk 2.0b#0

Check out what Gil Machin wrote on 05 Aug 93  09:22:00:

 GM> Think Hard Now!  Which One is Shinola?

NL>I am very interested in the 7th Guest CD.  The lowest price 
NL>I have seen has been $49 through mail order.  Anyone have a 
NL>used version?  Seen a lower price?


 GM> In Kansas City Mo. Sam's Club Warehouse has it for $45 plus some
 GM> change. 
 GM> This is about $5 Cheaper that anyware else in town. 
 GM>                                                      Gil

 GM> ___ WinQwk 2.0b#0

 Sorry, I can't seem to buy the game in Missouri...Something
about me not wanting to drive 30 hours straight.  :)

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From: NATE LAWSON                            Number: 3157
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/10/93 11:44p
Subj: Re: 7th guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

$50, with shipping for 7th Guest....Sounds good.
Let me get some money..thanks!

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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 3158
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93 12:24p
Subj: Create DOS Multimedia                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TEMPRA VideoEdit AND MultiMedia Authoring Software (DOS)
 
Tempra MEDIA AUTHOR- A complete package for multimedia publishing,video
production, computer-based training, interactive kiosks,demos & presentations. 
>> Creates presentations with audio and live video
>> Distribute them ROYALTY FREE 
>> Video support: controls up to 7 VISCA video decks.
  
Also Includes:
Tempra PRO- Photorealistic image editor & high-end 24bit paint pkg. >> Supports
color scanners, video capture boards, color printers.               
   
Tempra TURBO ANIMATOR- 32-bit accelerator, animation editor & video movie
maker. 
>> Save full-motion VIDEO to disk! 
>> Create/edit FLC, FLI & FLX files. 
   
>>>> Manufacturer's Inflated Retail is  $1985.00! <<<< 

Complete - BLANK REGISTRATION CARDS             

MAKE AN OFFER!!!  STEAL IT!!!

Contact BOB ROSOL     Voice: 412-761-9090   FAX: 412-766-3299





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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 3159
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/11/93  5:43p
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  MC> If anyone would like for Computer Works BBS to mail them A list of all
  MC> the CD's we carry, please tell me your address, and we will send one
  MC> to you.  Thank you for your time. Mark
  MC> 
  MC> Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! Online Credit Card Ordering Available!
  MC> (205) 671-0092 - BBS (205) 793-4481 - Voice SysOp - Jim Lambert 
  MC> CoSysOp - Mark Clardy
  MC> --- FreeMail 1.08b
  MC>  * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)

Send one to Mike Mulcahy
9300 Hamilton Drive
Fairfax, VA 22031
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 3160
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 08/11/93  5:46p
Subj: CD ROM Discs                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Which of these are compatable with an APPLE CD300 CDROM hardware?..m2
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From: CARL SCHULTZ                           Number: 3161
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/10/93  2:13p
Subj: Cd price list 1/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

do you have DUNE or DUNE 2? (CD)


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From: CARL SCHULTZ                           Number: 3162
  To: GLENN JONES                              Date: 08/10/93 10:20p
Subj: Cd rom help                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Could somone help me?  What do I look for in a CD-ROM?  What I'm
-> looking for  is a internal CD-ROM.  Speed, KBytes/Second, Speed????
->
-> I'm SO CONFUSED!!!
->
-> Thanks,
-> Glenn
 You Should look at KB per sec and Access time, the gruop buy is a great
CD-ROM!!! Also look at price. You've first got to look at how  much $ your
going to spend and then, what your going to be using it for.
  If you have any other questions leave me E-Mail..


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From: CARL SCHULTZ                           Number: 3163
  To: JOHN ANDERSON                            Date: 08/10/93 10:23p
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Used CD-ROMs For Sale:
->
->   Maniac Mansion 2: Day Of The Tentacle - $40
->   Loom - $15
->   The 7th Guest - $25
->   Infocom Treasure Chest - $20
 I'll buy The 7th quest from you, but what is it like, what do you do?


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 3164
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/11/93 10:03a
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->   If anyone would like for Computer Works BBS to mail them A list of
-> the CD's we carry, please tell me your address, and we will send one
-> you.  Thank you for your time.
->                                        Mark
->
->
->   Computer Works CD-Rom Sales!
->   Online Credit Card Ordering Available!
->   (205) 671-0092 - BBS
->   (205) 793-4481 - Voice
->   SysOp - Jim Lambert  CoSysOp - Mark Clardy
-> --- FreeMail 1.08b
->  * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)
->
 I would like a catalog

Vito A Servideo
2741 ne 24 street
LIghthouse Point, FL  33064

p.s.
do you have any cd+g titiles?


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From: FREDDY FAVELA                          Number: 3165
  To: MICHEAL KONOR                            Date: 08/11/93 12:46p
Subj: Toshiba CD-Rom                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        M








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From: FREDDY FAVELA                          Number: 3166
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 08/11/93 12:47p
Subj: Toshiba Cd-Rom                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

               Michael if the TOSHIBA XM-3201 INTERNAL CD can run
        
                on a 286 sx16mhz with 1 mg ram I'm interested!!

        and if it cant please let me now what I need!


        REPLY HERE 

         ORORORORO

        CALL (404) 478-5106

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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 3167
  To: MARIO DI MAMBRO                          Date: 08/10/93 10:34p
Subj: Cd Chess Game                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I noticed you sell cd's and cd stuff, so I thought I would ask you if
-> the new game Chess Meister 5 Billion & 1 is available on CD?  I saw
-> it on disk


Mario, whether you get it on CD or disk, the game is not worth it. The 
animations are grainy and repetative. Each possible capture has only 1 
animation. The game also plays lousy chess even at its most advanced 
levels. I'd recomend you read the Computer Gaming World review before 
spending money on this one.

I'm glad my boss spend his $$ on this on and not me.

James

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From: TONY MATA                              Number: 3168
  To: STEVE JONES                              Date: 08/11/93 11:56p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST AND MIT                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Steve, no, the SB PRO or SB 16 can't be hooked up to a Mitsumi.  From what I
was told by Mitsumi tech support, only the ATI Sound FX and Sound Galaxy NX Pro
audio cards are the only ones compatible.  I have heard from some people in
this echo that you can connect the sound wire to the SB, but you would still
need to have the card that came with the drive. 
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 3169
  To: TONY DAVIS                               Date: 08/11/93  6:04p
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  >Then there are those crazy dealers like me who like to live
->  >life on the edge. I'll take ALL THE BUSTY'S I CAN GET MY HANDS ON!
->
->
-> You are certainly correct, you are on the edge.
->
-> On July 20th, I was arrested and all my BBS equipment was seized. If
-> found guilty, I am facing 15 years / $25,000 for sale & possession of
-> obscene material.
->
-> That 'edge' is not a real comfortable place to be.
->
->
-> Tony
->
-> --- QM v1.26/a
->  * Origin: Torii Station TBBS 150,000 Files @14 Gig (1:147/20)



  Tony where did this happen and is this a federal law or a local
law in your home state? I thought a BBS was a PRIVATE electronic
service? Did you let most people access your files without verifying
ages? Please let me know about this law.
bubba
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From: CURT LARSON                            Number: 3170
  To: MICHAEL KONNOE                           Date: 08/11/93 10:44p
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please call me ASAP at (816)229-9530.  Leave message in echo if you don't want
to call. Thanks.

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From: CURT LARSON                            Number: 3171
  To: MIKE KONNOR                              Date: 08/11/93 10:45p
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please call me ASAP at (816)229-9530.  If you must, leave a message in this
echo.  thanks.

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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3172
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93 11:49a
Subj: Aussie Needs help...                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Everybody!

How are you all..??? The land of the CD ROM is very new to me, In fact so new
I haven't even purchased one yet. There seem to be a lot of experts out there
guys. Perhaps you can give me some ideas on what to look out for...??? What
sort of to look for when buying a CD player...???

And of course the best places to buy CD's long distance..<grin> Anyone want to
start a branch in Australia...???<grin>

Thanks for your help!

Mark Smith 
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From: DAVID M. WHITE                         Number: 3173
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/11/93  2:02p
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MC>   If anyone would like for Computer Works BBS to mail them A
MC> list of all
MC> the CD's we carry, please tell me your address, and we will

I would like to receive your listing:  send to:
David M. White
452 N. Bull Run Dr.
Tucson, Az 85748

                                          Thanks, 


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From: FRITZ WILSON                           Number: 3174
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/11/93  9:47p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Wes Tapp to All <=-

 WT> Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to work with
 WT> QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and should be able to be moved around by
 WT> QEMM.  Perplexed beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.  Any ideas would
 WT> help.

     No problem here with the following setup:

CONFIG.SYS

DEVICE=c:\qemm\loadhi.sys /r:2 \dev\mtmcdd.sys /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /S:3 /A:0
/M:19 /T:3 /I:2

AUTOEXEC.BAT

c:\qemm\loadhi /r:1 C:\BIN\mscdex.exe /D:MSCD001 /M:50 /E /L:K


... The backup's not over 'til the fat table sings.  
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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 3175
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93  5:45p
Subj: CSS CD Price List                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For more information or ordering call CSS at 517-263-0017 1pm - 7pm. Or order
online from our online shopping mall by calling 517-263-0273 speeds to 14.4.

Mastercard/VISA/AMEX/Discover/COD accepted!
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7th Guest                                             60.00
Adventures of Willy Beamish                           35.00
Aircraft Encyclopedia                                 42.00
American Business Phonebook 1                         24.00
American Business Phonebook 2                         33.00
Amiga AB20                                            21.50
AMSoft World of Ham Radio                             34.00
Animals MM San Diego Zoo                              32.50
Animals MPC San Diego Zoo                             32.50
Arthur's Teacher Trouble                              34.00
Audobon's Birds                                       32.00
Audobon's Mammals                                     32.00
Barney Bear Goes to School                            27.00
Barney Bear Goes to Space                             27.00
Battle Chess Enhanced                                 37.00
Beauty and the Beast                                  37.50
Bible Library                                         36.00
Bibles and Religion                                   21.50
Britannica Family Choice                              38.50
Britannica Select Software                            38.50
Business Master                                       25.00
Business Master                                       25.00
C User's Group Library                                36.50
California Collection                                 22.00
Career Opportunities                                  34.00
Carmen Sandiego Deluxe                                33.50
CD PowerBox                                           39.00
CD WinBox                                             39.00
Chessmaster 3000                                      32.00
CIA World Fact Book                                   29.00
CICA Microsoft Windows                                21.00
Classic Collection Plus 4-Pack                        59.00
Clipart Galore                                        37.50
Clipart Goliath                                       21.50
Clipart Heaven                                        34.00
Colossal Cookbook                                     21.50
Complete Bookshop                                     21.50
Composer Quest                                        43.50
Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia                   114.00
Compton's MPC Encyclopedia                            84.00
Compton's Multimedia Encyclopedia                     84.00
Conan the Cimmerian                                   40.00
Consumer Information Disc                             44.00
Crossword Cracker                                     29.50
Danger! Hot Stuff                                     25.00
Danger! Hot Stuff II                                  30.00
Deathstar Arcade Battles                              21.50
Desert Storm                                          41.00
Desktop Bookshop                                      33.50
Dictionaries and Languages                            21.50
Dictionary of the Living World                        43.50
Dinosaur Adventure                                    39.00
Education Master                                      25.00
Electronic Home Library                               42.00
Encyclopedia of Clipart                               33.00
Encyclopedia of Sound                                 27.00
Family Doctor                                         34.50
Font Master I                                         24.00
Font Master II                                        33.00
Food Analyst                                          41.50
Fresh Arte                                            41.00
Front Page News                                       31.00
Game Master                                           25.00
Game Pack I                                           30.00
Game Pack II                                          32.00
Games 1993                                            33.00
Garbo MS-DOS/MAC                                      20.50
GIF's Galore                                          21.50
Gigabtye Gold                                         30.00
Global Explorer                                      102.00
Golden Immortal                                       30.00
Great Cities, Volume 1                                30.00
Great Cities, Volume 2                                30.00
Great Wonders of the World                            48.00
Guinness Disc of Records                              32.00
Hacker's Chronicles                                   32.00
Ham Radio 3.0                                         21.50
Hobbes OS/2 (OS/2 Archive CD-ROM)                     21.00
House of Games                                        34.00
Illustrated Holy Bible                                54.00
Interactive Story Time, Volume 1                      30.00
Interactive Story Time, Volume 2                      30.00
International Business and Economic Atlas             29.50
Jedi Collection 3-Pack                                54.00
Jets and Props                                        36.50
Jones in the Fast Lane                                28.50
Just Grandma and Me                                   47.00
KGB World Fact Book                                   38.00
Kings Quest V                                         30.00
Klotski                                               24.00
Languages of the World                                53.00
Library of the Future, 1st Edition                    59.50
Libris Britannia                                      49.00
Lion's Share                                          33.00
Loom                                                  30.00
MacMillan Children's Dictionary                       44.00
Magazine Rack                                         29.50
Magnum One Shareware                                  34.00
Marketing Master 1992                                 24.00
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing                           33.50
Mayo Clinic                                           40.00
Microsoft Bookshelf                                   63.00
Microsoft Cinemania                                   63.00
Microsoft Works                                       63.00
MIDI Music Shop                                       37.00
Mixed Up Mother Goose                                 29.50
Monarch Notes                                         69.00
Money, Money, Money!                                  29.50
Monster Disc 2-Pak                                    49.00
Mother Earth 2                                        33.00
Mother of all Clipart                                 29.00
MPC Wizard for Windows                                19.00
National Business Directory                           44.00
National Geographic Mammals                           32.00
National Parks                                        37.00
Night Owl's Business Disc                             29.00
Night Owl's Business Disc                             29.00
Night Owl's v4.2                                      27.00
Night Owl's v5.0                                      28.00
Night Owl's v6.2                                      29.00
Night Owl's v7.0                                      30.00
Night Owl's v8.0                                      34.00
Night Owl's v9.0                                      39.00
North American Fax Book                               54.00
Ocean Digital Imagery                                 50.00
Original Shareware 1992                               23.00
Otherware I                                           30.00
Our Solar System                                      21.50
Pascal Paradise on CD-ROM                             39.00
PC Gameroom                                           33.50
PC Medic                                              38.00
PC-Sig #12                                            35.00
Peter and the Wolf                                    32.00
Phoenix v3.0                                          26.50
Pier 1                                                34.00
Pier 2                                                50.00
Plant Doctor                                          42.00
Profiles of Colleges                                  39.00
Programmer's MegaPack                                 39.00
ProPhone 1993                                        133.00


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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 3176
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93  5:45p
Subj: CSS CD Price List                       Refer: NONE
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Publique Art                                          41.00
Publish-It!                                           34.00
Publisher's Dream Disc                                43.50
Publisher's Paradise                                  40.00
Reader's Library                                      37.50
Reference Library                                     32.50
Return to the Moon                                    43.00
Roger Ebert's Movie Companion                         48.00
Sci-Fi                                                33.50
Secret of Monkey Island                               30.50
Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe                       33.00
Shakespeare                                           22.50
Shareware Extravaganza                                49.00
Shareware Online                                      34.00
Shareware Overload                                    21.50
Shareware Studio I                                    26.00
Shareware Studio II                                   32.00
Sherlock Holmes                                       22.50
Sherlock Holmes, Consulting Detective                 30.00
Simtel 20                                             21.00
So Much ScreenWare                                    33.00
So Much ShareWare I                                   27.50
So Much ShareWare II                                  34.50
Software Vault                                        30.00
Software Vault II                                     34.00
Sound Sensations                                      21.50
Sound Works                                           24.00
SoundWAV                                              34.00
Source Code CD-ROM                                    25.00
Space Quest IV                                        30.00
Spirit of Excalibur                                   43.50
Sporting News                                         31.00
Sports Best on CD                                     33.50
Stellar 7                                             30.00
Street Atlas USA                                      93.00
Super Games for DOS                                   23.00
Super_CD                                              30.00
Super_CD II                                           34.00
Talking Jungle Safari                                 42.50
Talking Schoolhouse                                   42.50
TechnoTools                                           21.50
Tempra Access Photo CD Software                       37.50
Terrorist Group Profiles                              45.00
Time Magazine Compact Almanac                         33.50
Timetable of History: Science and Innovation          31.00
Too Many TypeFonts                                    21.50
Toolworks Illustrated Encyclopedia 2.0                44.00
Toolworks MPC Encyclopedia 1.0                        54.00
Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia 5.0                 54.00
Total Baseball                                        40.00
U.S. & World Atlas                                    34.00
U.S. Atlas with AutoMap                               34.00
U.S. Presidents                                       42.00
VGA Spectrum I                                        22.00
VGA Spectrum II                                       30.00
Visions of Saturn                                     30.00
Vital Signs                                           44.00
Wild Places                                           29.00
Window Master                                         25.00
Windoware                                             21.50
Windows 1993                                          33.00
Windows Shareware Gold                                42.00
Wing Commander II Deluxe                              63.00
Wing Commander/Ultima VI                              30.00
Wing Commander: Secret Missions                       34.00
WizPak                                                22.00
World Atlas                                           34.00
World of Flight                                       39.00
World of Trains                                       39.00
World Traveler                                        24.00
World View                                            29.00
World Vision 3-Pak                                    52.00
Wrath of the Demon                                    43.00

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From: LARISSA KOHLER                         Number: 3177
  To: CHAD STUDY                               Date: 08/10/93 10:10a
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Chad Study to All <=-

 CS> Would someone please make a decent CD with Amiga Shareware / PD files
 CS> on it.  Sure there is AB20 and Otherware, but lets face it these suck.
 CS> I want something comparible to Pier 2 or Night Owl 9 except featuring
 CS> Amiga files. I know there isn't as many Amiga files as IBM...  But if
 CS> you guys are going to make CD's with Amiga PD at least make file
 CS> descriptions comparible to the above CD's.... 

Have you tried Walnut Creek CDROM's?  They're supposed to have an excellent
Amiga cdrom.  I have 2 (soon to be 3) of their cdroms for IBM, and I (as
well as my users) are really happy w/them.  Their phone # is 1-800-786-9907.
I have the address, too (somewhere!) if you'd like it.  Hope this helps!
	LakeRider
	 
... "You keep saying that, I don't think it means what you think it means"
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3178
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/11/93  5:39p
Subj: Re:  Disk                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hmmmmm....I think I may be a wealthy man and don't know it. (:> 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3179
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/11/93  5:40p
Subj: Re:  Disk                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you know someone that wants one bad enough to pay $350 for it, you  send
them to me...P-L-E-A-S-E !!! 
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From: LORD HERMAN                            Number: 3180
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 08/11/93 10:29a
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Give me a call........638-2103 ask for joey

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 3181
  To: KEN TULLY                                Date: 08/11/93  2:47a
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROMS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hiya, Ken!
On Aug 08, Ken Tully spake thusly to Keith Sheehan:

 KT> will be BBS ready for both PCBoard, and Files.bbs 
 KT> systems...   The only hold up on the disk right now is 
 KT> getting the front end finnished.  I was hoping to have the 
 KT> disk released before Sept 1, but if I have to wait for the 
 KT> front end to be finnished, it will be about 3 weeks late. 
 KT> Here is a question for you....  Would you release the disk 
 KT> without a front end,or would you prefer to wait 2 to 3 
 KT> weeks longer???.  We could have filled the disk with 650 or 
 KT> so megs, but we only wanted the premier programs on the 
 KT> disk.  We didn't see the need to just use "FILLER".  The 
 KT> disk will be release approx 4 times a year, but will only 
 KT> contain PREMIUM material.

i'm a sysop and i would MUCH rather wait for a disk that will "self-install"
than do it myself!  <shudder>  simtel is still sitting here uninstalled cuz i
have not the time to do it...

also, nobody wants dupes from prior edtions, or any of that OLD ver 1.2 and 1.3
stuff.  personally, none of my users want the unix stuff either!  i would say
that 500 megs is fine.  just fine.  :) 


\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2

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From: DAVID BERNARD                          Number: 3182
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93  9:44p
Subj: Sports Almanic                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey I am looking for a sport encyclopaedia with stats and details.  I am
aware that Sports Illustrated has one out called CD-ROM Sports Almanac.
Does any one have the Sports Illustrated CD or one that is better?  What's
the cost and details of how to purchase it?  Ltr...David
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From: JOSEPH FEDERKINS                       Number: 3183
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93  1:45a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVES                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
=================================================================

Toshiba - 3401 Series - World's Fastest Access Time : 200ms
 - Fully Integrated Audio
 - Double Speed                              Internal $510 + shipping
 - 5.25" CD-ROM Cartridge Drive              External $620 + shipping
 - 330 KB/sec transfer
 - Embedded SCSI-2 Interface
 - MPC compliant
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible


TEAC CD-50 - Access Time : 265ms            Internal $378 + shipping
 - 300 KB/sec transfer rate
 - AntiDust design
 - SCSI-2 Compatible
 - Multimedia compliant
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible
 - SCSI-2 Interface kit required


NEC - Access Time : 280ms                    Internal $576 + shipping
 - CD Audio Capable                          External $653 + shipping
 - 265K Cache
 - 2 year warranty
 - Multispin 300 KB/sec transfer rate
 - Double dust doors and auto lens dust brush
 - High performance XT/AT, SCSI-2 Interface Kit Included
 - Multimedia compliant
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible


Mitsumi - Access Time : 350ms                Internal $209 + shipping
 - 32K Buffer
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible
 - Includes 16bit interface card, cable, and device driver
 - Internal Half Height form factor
 - 150 KB/sec transfer rate
 - Patented Dust proof design
 - Multimedia compliant


Sony Desktop Library Multimedia Starter Kit  Internal $307 + shipping
 - Access Time : 550ms
 - Includes 16bit interface card and cable
 - Complete Documentation
 - Installation Software
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible
 - Internal Half Height form factor
 - Multimedia compliant
 - Includes 4 CD-ROM software titles


Sony Desktop Library Complete Multimedia Kit
 - Access Time : 550ms
 - Includes 16bit interface card and cable
 - 16-bit Pro Audio Spectrum sound board     Internal $505 + shipping
 - Sony SRS-58PC speakers and batteries      External $593 + shipping
 - Complete Documentation
 - Installation Software
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible
 - Multimedia compliant
 - Includes 7 CD-ROM software titles

 Future Business Consultants, Inc     Custom configurations are
 1749 West Golf Road    Suite 305     always available
 Mount Prospect, Illinois   60056
 (708) 437-8889  M-F 10am - 8pm    SAT 12n  - 4pm
 (708) 956-6983  FAX               >>> All times are CST <<<

  Quanities are limited.    Prices are subject to change
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From: JOSEPH FEDERKINS                       Number: 3184
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93  1:45a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVES 2                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
=================================================================

Sony External CD-ROM   (2nd Inventory)    $406 + shipping
 - Access Time : <340ms
 - 150KB/sec transfer rate
 - 8K Buffer
 - Built-in Audio
 - Includes 16bit interface card and cable
 - Laser Library Menu
 - Laser Library Installation
 - Includes 7 CD-ROM software titles
 - 1 year Sony Warranty


Texel
 - Access Time : 265ms                       Internal $488 + shipping
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible         External $565 + shipping
 - SCSI-2 compliant
 - SCSI-2 Interface Adapter
 - 64KB Buffer
 - 330 KB/sec transfer
 - Dust-Proof construction
 - Self cleaning lens


Texel CD-ROM Home Bundle                     Internal $604 + shipping
 - Same CD-ROM drive as above                External $714 + shipping
 - Stereo Headphones
 - Amplified Audio Speakers
 - CD-ROM Software
     Software Toolworks Multimedia        National Parks
     Software Toolworks Game Pack 2       PC-SIG Library
     The San Diego Zoo's: The Animals     Music Sampler CD
     Nautilus Multimedia Family Guide     Music Audio Control Software
     MPC Wizard Test and Tune-Up CD


Texel CD-ROM Multimedia Bundle               Internal $890 + shipping
 - Same CD-ROM drive as above                External $1011 + shipping
 - Stereo Headphones
 - Deluxe Microphone
 - Media Vision 16-bit Soundboard
 - Amplified Audio Speakers
 - CD-ROM Software
     Compton's Encyclopedia               Autodesk Explorer
     Sierra's King's Quest V              Where in the World is
     The San Diego Zoo's: The Animals           Carmen Sandiego
     Software Toolworks Game Pack 2       PC-SIG Library
     Nautilus Multimedia Family Guide     National Parks
     Music Sampler CD                     Music Audio Control Software
     MPC Wizard Test and Tune-Up CD       World View Media Clips





 Future Business Consultants, Inc     Custom configurations are
 1749 West Golf Road    Suite 305     always available
 Mount Prospect, Illinois   60056
 (708) 437-8889  M-F 10am - 8pm    SAT 12n  - 4pm
 (708) 956-6983  FAX               >>> All times are CST <<<

  Quanities are limited.    Prices are subject to change
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From: JOSEPH FEDERKINS                       Number: 3185
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93  1:45a
Subj: CD-ROM SOFTWARE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Software Bundles
=================================================================

Business Bundle               $43 + shipping
 - Software Vault 1 Shareware
 - Software Vault 2 Shareware
 - Prophone Business Edition

Reference Bundle              $65 + shipping
 - Reference Library
 - Family Doctor
 - Atlas Pack World/US

Game Bundle                   $50 + shipping
 - Total BaseBall
 - Mario is Missing
 - Deathstar for Arcade Battles

 **** All bundles require purchase of CD-ROM Drive ****
 **** See previous posts for prices and specifications ****


 Future Business Consultants, Inc     Custom configurations are
 1749 West Golf Road    Suite 305     always available
 Mount Prospect, Illinois   60056
 (708) 437-8889  M-F 10am - 8pm    SAT 12n  - 4pm
 (708) 956-6983  FAX               >>> All times are CST <<<

  Quanities are limited.    Prices are subject to change
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3186
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 08/10/93  1:31a
Subj: Computer Works                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >    Did you get the disk in the mail that i sent you yet? Let me know 
  >when you do ok? thanks 
 
Yes, I sure did.  You should have yours by now.  I sent it out Priority 
Mail a few days ago.  Do you have it yet?  Thanks for the swap. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3187
  To: CRAIG DOBIE                              Date: 08/10/93  1:46a
Subj: Computer Works                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Computer Works is an economical place to buy your CD-Roms with our 
competitive pricing.  Download catalog.zip for the latest price list 
complete with descriptions.  We have questionnaires online for placing 
credit card and COD orders. 
 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales!                                   Jim... 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS  14.4k 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3188
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93  2:01a
Subj: CD-Rom Dupes                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
               SHAREWARE CD-ROM DUPLICATION COMPARISONS 
------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
          Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.0 
 
CD-Rom          Total Files     CD-Rom                  Total Files 
 
Big Sky ROM     6985            So Much Shareware 3     5597 
Night Owl 9     4735            So Much Shareware 2     4666 
Night Owl 8     4950            CD Powerbox             6800 
 
          % OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S 
         --------------------------------------------------- 
>> Note:  Diagonal reflects % of INTERNAL dupes within a given CD.    << 
>>        Top number is number of files. Bottom number is percentage. << 
 
     Big Sky    N.Owl 9    N.Owl 8  Powerbox    SMS3      SMS2 
----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
Big     2         142       488       464       315       336 
Sky    .02%       1.21%     4.08%     3.36%     2.5%      2.88% 
----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
N.Owl   142       5         65        8         666       23 
  9     1.21%    .1%       .67%      .06%       6.44%    .24% 
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N.Owl   488       65        12        97        489       146 
  8     4.08%    .67%      .24%      .82%       4.63%     1.51% 
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Pwr     464       8         97        17        471       663 
Box     3.36%    .06%      .82%      .25%       3.79%     5.78% 
----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
SMS     315       666       489       471       0         1543 
 3      2.5%      6.44%     4.63%     3.79%     0%        15.03% 
----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
SMS     336       23        146       663       1543      7 
 2      2.88%    .24%       1.51%     5.78%     15.03%   .15% 
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For file lists and the latest catalog.zip, call Computer Works BBS. 
 
Computer Works                                  Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
 
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 3189
  To: FILUTEK                                  Date: 08/11/93 11:02p
Subj: OS/2 and Linux CDROM's                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to All, Filutek said:
 FF> Hi;

 FF> I'm looking for a source of CD's with OS/2 and Linux
 FF> related
 FF> files for my BBS. Any ideas?
EMS Professional Shareware will be showing a CD-ROM collection of 302 OS/2
products (July'93 CD-ROM) with an elaborate BBS door to search a database
describing the products. The Library on CD-ROM is $25. The door should be $25
more. Call (301)924-3594 for details, or see EMS at their ONEBBSCON booth in
Co. Springs.
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 3190
  To: MARK GUTT                                Date: 08/12/93 10:11a
Subj: cd rom software for sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I HAVE THE FOLLOWING CD ROM's FOR SALE:
->
->
-> THE 7th GUEST............................$35.00
->
-> ECOQUEST "THE SEARCH FOR CETUS"
-> by SIERRA (CHILDRENS ADVENTURE GAME).....$32.00
->
->
-> Both include original box, documentation, registration
-> cards and are in excellent condition. If interested,
-> post here, or call (414) 734-4090.
->
->
-> --- WM v3.01/93-0001
->  * Origin: Back Alley BBS(414)722-4774 9600 Chris Reagan  (1:139/695.

I will take the 7th guest....let me know how you want to make
arrangements.
bubba
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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3191
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93  5:55p
Subj: Test Message                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day All!

Just want to make sure your all getting this...???? Now who was it that said
they wanted to start a branch in Australia...???<grin>

Mark Smith


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From: MARK SMITKA                            Number: 3192
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/11/93  7:18p
Subj: Got 'em!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>Whenever you have another "price challenge" for
MS>me, don't be shy!  8)

I won't hesitate to call. I used to wait for the local shows to buy CD's. I'm
confident now that there's no way I could've done any better at a show.

Take care,



-=<< Mark >>=-
===
 * WaveRdr 0.32 Beta *  From the Law Offices of Dewey, Cheatham, and Howe

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From: WYATT WOLFE                            Number: 3193
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 01/04/18  8:10p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Wes,

      I do not know why you are having a problem with qemm... I have ran every
version of Qemm since 5.0 was out... I now run 7.0.... I also run two Mitsumi
LU002S drives... Qemm loads both device drivers high and the MSCDEX high
also... both drives are accessable... and have never had any problems... Maybe
your parameters are wrong....... Like the commercial says..... "READ THE BOOK"
Wyatt Wolfe
Snoopy's
(602)934-7485
1:114/214

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From: MAHMUT KURSUN                          Number: 3194
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/10/93  2:06p
Subj: Sound Sample CD-ROM Disc                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I am looking for a CD-ROM with .mid .voc .wav and even .iff and .mod
 > Can anybody tell me if one exists, and if so where I can get one?

25$, Resource Library Audio
from Knowledge Media 800-78-CDROM
or 916-872-3826

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From: JASON PAUL                             Number: 3195
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 08/10/93  8:41a
Subj: CDROM Drives                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MK>SCSI CDROMs For Sale:

MK>Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
MK>Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00

MK>Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac.

My drive from you works great on my amiga.  I see that you say that it works
great on a mac.  I still haven't located the drivers to run it. Have you sold
drives to mac users?  If so do you know where I can get the drivers or can you
give me the names of the mac users that have bought these drives from you? 
Thanks!

-=-
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From: CLINT ANGLIN                           Number: 3196
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 08/11/93  7:40p
Subj: Cd-rom Caching????                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SF>I use CD Speedway and the only benefit I've found was if viewing gifs on
SF>the cd-rom it stops the jerkyness of the files when they first come up,
SF>if I setup a slideshow in Vpic it dramatically helps! I am, like you
SF>looking for a good cd rom cache program? If I could only find Norton
SF>Speedcache+ at a good price?

I highly recommend the PC Kwik Power Pak for only $39.  I just got it
and I am VERY pleased with it.  It includes the Super PC-Kwik cache
(both hard drives and CD-ROMs), a Print Spooler (works in Windows as
well as DOS -- faster than Print Manager), Screen Accelerator (for text
modes), Keyboard Accelerator, Command Line Editor, KwikBoot (Change your
boot configuration from a menu of up to 100 configurations at boot
time), and Power Disk (HD Defragger).

Super PC-Kwik is a very fast cache (the fastest I have tried) and
dynamically allocates memory to programs as it is needed.  That is, all
available memory is used for a cache; however, if a program is loaded
that requires more memory Super Pc-Kwik lends it the memory it needs and
then takes it back when the program is done.  This package of programs
is an incredible bargain for only $39, plus it comes with a 90 day money
back guarantee if you decide that you are not satisfied with it!

You can call PC-KWIK to order at 1-800-444-5945.

Clint


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From: JAMES REYLE                            Number: 3197
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93 11:59a
Subj: Engineering CD's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To all:
  Can any one tell me if there is CD rom disks geared more towanrd the
  Technical Engineer. Also, I'm looking for a disk that deals alot with
  Patents and developments. Something like what you would find out of
  an Almanac.

                              James Reyle


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3198
  To: RON THOMPSON                             Date: 08/12/93 12:58a
Subj: CD MASTER LIST PART 2                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RT>selling Just Grandma and Me (kid's interactive story) for $39.95
RT>everyday. Your catalog lists it for $42.00. Will you meet or beat that

No prob.  Gimme a call any time.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3199
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/12/93 12:58a
Subj: A FEW CHESTNUTS LEFT!                   Refer: NONE
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HP>-> 13. OUR SOLAR SYSTEM - Exciting NASA and observatory photos of the pl
HP>->     moons, comets, earth, and celestial phenomena!  Includes star loc
HP>->     planetarium programs, astronomical data, voyage simulators, + ton
HP>I'm inerested in this one! do you have any left?

Yep

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3200
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93 12:58a
Subj: CD MASTER LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 August 1993             DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 8/12
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                                   1 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Microsoft Musical Instruments.58.00
 7th Guest.....................49.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........58.00
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    MIDI Music Shop...............29.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........24.50
 American Business Phonebk 91..17.00    Monarch Notes.................64.00
 American Business Phonebk 92..19.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 American Business Phonebk 93..39.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...38.50
 Amiga AB20....................15.00    Monster Media 93 (New!).......33.00
 Aminet Amiga (New!)...........15.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Mother of All Clipart.........23.50
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......27.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....27.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....30.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    National Business Directory...29.00
 Audubon's Birds...............25.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............25.00    National Parks................29.00
 Barney Bear Goes to Space.....20.00    Night Owl 4.1.................20.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    Night Owl 8.0.................27.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 9.0 (In stock!).....29.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl 8/9 2-Pak...........55.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....13.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Business Master...............20.00    North American Fax Book.......39.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    Ocean Digital Imagery.........34.50
 California Collection.........17.00    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...19.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    Our Solar System..............13.00
 CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....29.50
 CD Winbox (New!)..............27.00    PC-SIG #12....................27.00
 CD Grab Bag Disc..............19.00    PC Gameroom...................27.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Pentomino.....................32.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phethean's Shareware #1.......15.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phoenix 3.0...................13.00
 Clipart Galore................28.00    Pier 1........................27.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 2 (In stock!)............35.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........27.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....28.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....22.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......88.00
 Composer Quest................35.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........115.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency... 98.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....69.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........34.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....69.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Conan the Cimmerian...........33.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........27.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Crossword Cracker.............24.00    Q & A.........................39.50
 Cybergenic Ranger (New!)......27.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Reader's Library..............31.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Reel Clips (New!).............44.50
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Reference Library.............27.50
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....36.00
 Desktop Bookshop..............27.50    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...42.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....27.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Secret of Monkey Island.......25.50
 Dinosaur Adventure............34.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...28.00
 DTPro.........................28.50    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Eagle Eye Shareware (New!)....25.00    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Online..............28.00
 Electronic Cookbook (New!)....33.00    Shareware Overload............13.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3201
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93 12:58a
Subj: CD MASTER LIST 2/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 August 1993             DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 8/12
 **************************************************************************
                                   2 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Shareware Studio 1............20.00
 Empire Clipart................29.00    Shareware Studio 2............25.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........15.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...25.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    Sights & Sounds...............25.00
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......29.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Find-It Webster...............49.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Font Master 2.................28.00    So Much Shareware 2...........27.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....28.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    Software Vault 1..............25.00
 Game Arena (New!).............13.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....27.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..29.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Soundware Collection (New!)...27.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    SoundWAV......................28.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Global Explorer...............93.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Space Quest IV................24.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Grolier's Ill. Ency. 2.0......38.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Grolier's MM Ency. 5.0........48.00    Street Atlas USA..............86.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency. 1.5.......48.00    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...25.00    Super CD 2....................27.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....16.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Super Games For Windows.......16.00
 Hamware 1993 (New!)...........28.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Technotools...................13.00
 House of Games................24.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..27.50
 Illustrated Holy Bible........47.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.50
 Jets & Props..................31.50    Total Baseball................29.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00    Trump Castle..................33.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. & World Atlas............29.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 King's Quest V................24.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........27.50    Up All Night Shareware (New!).19.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    VGA Spectrum 1................15.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00    VGA Spectrum 2................22.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    Visions of Saturn.............25.00
 Libris Britannia..............42.00    Vital Signs...................45.00
 Lion's Share..................24.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Loom..........................25.00    Window Master.................20.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........37.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Wing Commander II Deluxe......57.50
 Magnum One Shareware..........27.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Magnum Sight & Sound..........27.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......25.00
 Manhole.......................36.50    World Atlas MPC...............27.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............28.00    World Traveler (New!).........18.00
 Mega Clipart (New!)...........29.00    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......58.00    World Vision 3-Pak............45.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: WILLIAM E GOSSETT                      Number: 3202
  To: HARRY WHEAT                              Date: 08/11/93  9:15p
Subj: 6 disk cd-rom changer                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I am looking for a BBS program that will run a 6 disk
 > Cd-rom changer on a BBS. I have looked all over and
 > can't find anything. If anyone knows of anything
 > please leave me a message.    Thank's
 >                                           Harry
 > Wheat.......

RA... will do it.
 > --- Maximus 2.01wb
 >  * Origin: Fish House BBS (1:3604/23)

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 3203
  To: CHRIS WISE                               Date: 08/12/93 10:13p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CW> I will take one, what is the access time and transfer 
 CW> rate and your address...

Give me a call 205-824-2552  first.  They may all be sold out.

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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3204
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/12/93  8:17p
Subj: Liquadation Discs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Ismail!

Tuesday August 10 1993 15:01, Ismail Arslangiray wrote to All:

 IA> CD Winbox   $12

Do you send COD..??? How about to Australia...??? Or better still I am looking
for a firm that want to establish an Australian Connection for their
products...????

Let me know!

Mark Smith

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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3205
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/12/93  8:19p
Subj: Walnut Creek Releases                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Ismail!

Tuesday August 10 1993 15:01, Ismail Arslangiray wrote to All:

 IA> Also CICA Windows will be updated next week.

Care to send this one to me in Australia as well...???? I would also like this
one too...

Thanks...

Mark Smith

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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3206
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 08/12/93  8:22p
Subj: FREE CD-ROM                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Vince!

Tuesday August 10 1993 18:55, Vince Sorensen wrote to All:

 VS> Night Owl 9... $35 Canadian all taxes included.
 VS> Buy Night Owl 9 and any other of our many instock CD-ROMs,
 VS> and receive a 640 Meg Shareware CD-ROM absolutely free.

Looking for a dealership in Australia...??? wanna make some **REAL**
bucks...??? Send me your catalog if you are and I will pass it on to the rest
of Australia...

Mark Smith

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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3207
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 08/12/93  8:24p
Subj: DEALER OPPORTUNITY                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Vince!

Tuesday August 10 1993 18:59, Vince Sorensen wrote to Canadians:

 VS> Canadian dealers wanted!

What about Australians, we are of the same past too you know..<grin>

Let me know if you want to set up an Australian dealership..??? I will
consider all offers....

Mark Smith

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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3208
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93  8:26p
Subj: Pagemaker 5.0                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day All!

Anyone got Pagemaker 5.0 on CD...??? if so how much...???

Mark Smith


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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3209
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93  8:27p
Subj: Australian Dealerships                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day All!

I will consider anyone who is interested in setting up a dealership in Sydney
Australia. I have a US contact in Bob Brisco (1:2602/115) and I would be happy
to make available a catalog of products available to the rest of Australia.

Let me know...

Mark Smith


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3210
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93  1:25p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll pay $35 (including shipping) for your used (complete, undamaged) 7th
Guest.  Reply here or in netmail.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 3211
  To: JOEY RATZSCH                             Date: 08/14/93  9:07a
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TB> Special.... for 1 week I'm offering used Hitachi 
 TB> 3500 internal cd rom
 TB> drives for $99.   I have about 20 left.  30 day warranty included.
 TB> 205-824-2552

 JR> What are the speeds and specs of these drives?
 JR> Are the drivers included, and is the SCSI card?

Sorry they are gone.  If you want to send me your phone number I'll call you if
I get any more.


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From: SCOTT MARTIN                           Number: 3212
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93  8:38a
Subj: Need Shareware Games Disk               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I run a Gaming BBS and am looking for a CD Rom Disk with NOTHING but PD and 
Shareware Games to put up for download. I want all 92-93 stuff, nothing older.
Anyone have anything that fits the bill? Also it should have as much of the 
640 Megs of the disk filled as is possible. Thanks!!!

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From: LEN GLADSTONE                          Number: 3213
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93 12:42a
Subj: Test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TESTING MY INEPTITUDE WITH AN OFFLINE MAIL READER

... I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere! ___ Blue
Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 3214
  To: RON THOMPSON                             Date: 08/11/93  9:19p
Subj: Grandma and ME                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RT>I know that you said you would match or beat any advertised price on a
RT>Cd-Rom disk, right? Locally in El Paso at Computer City, they are
RT>selling Just Grandma and Me (kid's interactive story) for $39.95
RT>everyday. Your catalog lists it for $42.00. Will you meet or beat that
RT>price? What type of proof do you need? Thanks!

I will sell it to ya for $35.00 or trade for a Multimedia Encyclopedia.

Al James

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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 3215
  To: LESLIE THOMAS                            Date: 08/11/93  9:19p
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LT>I am interested in buying  a used CD Rom that is comptatible with using
LT>the SBPro as a controller.  Anyone have one they are interested in parting
LT>with?

I have one ... and even more...it's the tope of the line external model.
I can let it go for $265.00.  Let me know soon, Either way!

Al James


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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 3216
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 08/11/93  9:19p
Subj: CD ROM DISCS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CB>       Complete list of all available titles from C.S.S.
CB>              See end of list for ording options.
.
.
.
CB>Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia             14.00
.
CB>ProPhone 1993                                  33.00

Chris, I would like to purchase both of these items.  Please send C.O.D.
to ....
Al James
305-B Third Street
Dunbar, WV 25064

I am looking forward to receiving these disks.  Please send as soon as
possible.  From what I have seen, there have been a lot of problems with
people that have been putting ads like yours in the echo.  I hope we
don't have any...  By the way, tried calling the online mall, all I got
was a ring through.

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 3217
  To: HARRY WHEAT                              Date: 08/12/93 10:36a
Subj: 6 disk cd-rom changer                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HW>I am looking for a BBS program that will run a 6 disk Cd-rom changer on a BB

  >I 
  >have looked all over and can't find anything. If anyone knows of anything 
  >please 
  >leave me a message.    Thank's 
 
 EZROM will!  Thats the best program I've seen for BBS CDrom usage. 
Feel Free to FREQ EZROM120.ZIP from 1:2601/566.  If your bbs doesnt make 
a door.sys file, you'd better get a copy of QKDOOR2.ZIP as well. ITs a 
great door and not nearly as expensive as some others I've seen.  Also 
it reads straight text file lists (no need to make huge index files). 
 
        ...tim klan 
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3218
  To: TAMI THOMPSON                            Date: 08/12/93  7:13a
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> up to 800 disks. There is also Walnut Creek's Aminet CDROM; Aminet is a
> repository of Amiga related software, several FTP mirror sites exist
> around the world (Internet) - this CDROM is a snapshot of Aminet from
> JUN93. I think these are examples of what you are looking for... -Tami
Hi,
Also within two weeks we are publishing an Amiga disk in ISO-9660 format for
BBS Systems. TTYL
 
GroupWAre 

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From: RON BYRD                               Number: 3219
  To: QMAIL                                    Date: 08/12/93 10:28a
Subj: DROP                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Add, Drop, or Reset a Conference.
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From: RANDY SHULER                           Number: 3220
  To: R. P. MEGGS                              Date: 08/12/93  4:21p
Subj: Hitachi CD-ROM's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Howdy,
  I called that Terry Blount about the drives.  They are $99.00 bot without
controller.  The only controllers he has are new and $60.00 each.   That's $160
plus shipping, and seems too much for a used drive.  He told me himself that
the Mitsumi's are selling for about $180 new though he doesn't sell em.  What
to do, what to do [grin].
  If you happen to get on a board that has V2.1 or higher of the program CVIEW
(Colorview), I'd like to try it.  It's supposed to be pretty slick.  Thought
you had it, but search didn't find it, so it must have been another board list
[woops!]
                        Adieu, RANDY

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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 3221
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93 10:11p
Subj: S/W Toolworks encyc CD                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the Software Toolworks Multimedia (Grolier's) Encylopedia CD V5.0
for $45 + shipping.  Comes with manual, CD and registration card.  My
number is in the tagline....or just e-mail me here....thanks !!
 
... Voice: 919-870-6926 or Prodigy: CJBM15A
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From: DAVID SEITZ                            Number: 3222
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 08/12/93  4:27p
Subj: WHOLESALING & RETAILING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

My Address is Po Box 589 Lansdale Pa 19446


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3223
  To: GEORGE MAYS                              Date: 08/06/93  2:26p
Subj: JUKEBOXES                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>It is straight forward, it works just like a jukebox, but used CD's instead
>of audio CD's or records.   (you have one CDrom drive, but can switch CD's
>anytime.)

Actually, most of the "jukebox" drives have a few actual drives in them (the
only "50 Gig" drive I know of has 4 actual drives, for example). The announced
Pioneer 18-disc drive apparently will have 3....


 * SLMR 2.1a * A motion to ajourn is always in order.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3224
  To: JON WHALEY                               Date: 08/06/93  2:28p
Subj: OS/2 DISK?                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Is there a OS/2 CD-Rom out there somewhere?

Selectware has a "1000+ OS/2 Applications" demo disk available - I THINK it is
free if you call them and ask for it....


 * SLMR 2.1a * True Multatasking: 8 PCs and a swivel chair

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3225
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 08/10/93  1:19p
Subj: NEC AND HITACHI                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Yup... I am running a Matubistua

Matsushita - parent company of Panasonic, Technics, among others....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Why is it that Wrong Numbers are never busy?

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3226
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 08/10/93  1:27p
Subj: NEC AND HITACHI                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Hey dude! I was wondering if you could tell me if it is possible to run 2 or 3
>MITSUMI's off of one card...

Not to my knowlage - and I've done SOME checking into that idea - with any
existing interface card.
 At worst, it SHOULD be possible to design a card with multiple drive busses,
but I've not seen it done (yet?)....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Don't you wish: You'd seen Silk wiped out in a dice game?

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3227
  To: BRENT CRIGHTON                           Date: 08/10/93  5:41p
Subj: CD'S WANTED                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>does anyone know if there has ever been a "chilton's" guide to part,
interfaces
>and other proprietary stuff for pc's, mini's, and or main frames.

Not on CD-ROM, not "Chilton's", but there was such a guide put out for the
PC/Clone market - back in 1985.
 It was a LARGE book even then, and I don't think anyone has bothered to update
it....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Devoted to the study of Cat bathing as a martial art.

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3228
  To: MING CHAN                                Date: 08/10/93  3:25p
Subj: Re: NIGHTOWL                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!


               Call Free Spirit And ask for Barney !
                      ******************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 3229
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/13/93  3:47a
Subj: Precision Mapping                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  I have a copy of Precision Mapping that I don't need, (already have the
disc), that I will be willing to part with. This is the complete map of the USA
that allows you to zoom all the way down to the street you are looking for.
Search by area code, city name, street name, and zip code. The disc cost $88.00
to $120 new depending on your source. I will consider all trade offers or cash.
Thanks, 

Michael Sells




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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3230
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/13/93  1:23a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... I married the Mail Lady!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3231
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/13/93  1:23a
Subj: RED HOT CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$
 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX   PRICE - $15.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
   COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - -  24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3232
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 08/13/93  1:24a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->> )))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((
->>
->> NOW IN STOCK  BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
->> period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
->> bustiest babes in North America including  Canadian gals
->> who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
->> viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.
->>
->>                       PRICE - $25.00
->>
->> To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263
->>
->> )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((
>>    Is that busty babes 3.0?

Yes, version 1.0 volume 3.0 ! Interested, give us a call at the above
number and we'll be happy to help you out.

Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3233
  To: MARIO DI MAMBRO                          Date: 08/13/93  1:24a
Subj: Re: Cd Chess Game                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I noticed you sell cd's and cd stuff, so I thought I would ask
>>    you if the new game Chess Meister 5 Billion & 1 is available
>>    on CD?  I saw it on disk at a local software store, but it
>>    take 27 Megs on the HD so I was hoping I could get a copy on
>>    CD.

Not that I aware of off the top of my head, but will check into it
and let you know.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3234
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 08/13/93  1:24a
Subj: Re: CDROM Specials                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>>                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
BO>>                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
BO>>                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

BO>>*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

BO>>Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
BO>>Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
BO>>Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
BO>>Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

BO>>***********************************************************************

>>     Boris,
>>            I would like to maybe order 3 cd's, consisting of
>>            Busty Babes 3 for (25), MegaAV for 15 or Sound
>>            Sensation for 10, can you tell me which sound disc is
>>            better and can you give me an address to send you a
>>            money order and if possible I would like to receive a
>>            catalog before I order anything! Very Interested,

There's a number of diffrent sound cd's out on the market. It all depends
on what type of sound your looking for and what your plaining to do with
the cd. There's one out that's called "Soundware", which claims to contain
the worlds largest selection of sound files on cd. It has over 10,000
diffrent sound files and is BBS ready. There's also F/X sound, which is
more commercial and offers a more professional sound base. These are
just a few that offer high quaility as well as a very good selection.

If your interested, please call us at the number above and we'll be happy
to discuss the matter further with you.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3235
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 08/13/93  1:24a
Subj: Re: RED HOT                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >> HOT PIX 5

Newest in the X-Rated Hot Pix seriers, with nearly 600 megs of
adult images and it's bbs ready.

 >> PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK

A large assortment of various source codes, text files, routines and
more and it to is BBS ready.

 >> AMATEUR MODELS

New Release from the authors of "Monster Disk 2". This is an R-Rated
adult cd, with good scans.

>>    Tell me more about these discs, please??

Hope this helps....if not...call us and we'll be happy to help you
further.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3236
  To: RON COLEMAN                              Date: 08/13/93  1:24a
Subj: Re: Adult CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Can someone tell me a good quality Adult Cd that has Gif's and
>>    animations for a reasonable cost like around $30 to $40 ? Or
>>    any one have a used one for sale.I only have 1 disk right now
>>    and its for my kids (animals).Thanks.

Busty Babes v1.0 vol3.0 or Ecstacy. Either of these will more than
fill your needs.

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy
to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 3237
  To: LORD HERMAN                              Date: 08/12/93  8:59p
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LH>Give me a call........638-2103 ask for joey

    I don't see the 638 prefix in the Kansas City area phone book. Where
    are you located, and what is the area code if you're long distance?
    What was it that you wanted me to call about...  your message
    didn't say.

- Heather
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From: JOSE TORRES                            Number: 3238
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 08/12/93  5:51p
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JM>  I have a hardly used (in new condition) NEC CDR-35 
 JM> external CD-ROM drive for sale. The complete package 
 JM> contains an NEC interface card and cable, all original 
 JM> manuals, and software drivers. 
 HEEEYYYY!!!! I've got first dibs!!!!! FORGET NEGOTIABLE!!! I'll give you
asking price if it's at least 350ms access time and 150kb transfer rate.
Also, let me know if it's a SCSI or proprietary interface. You mentioned
NEC interface, but what type?  SPEAK TO ME!! Definitely interested if it's a
SCSI. CAll me collect if need be. The number is 813-458-1414. If not there,
leave a message and I WILL call you back. I'll even reimburse you for the call.

                                                Thanx a mil,

                                                        Jose Torres

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From: JOSE TORRES                            Number: 3239
  To: YVES DESJARDINS                          Date: 08/13/93  1:37a
Subj: CD for trade...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 YD> BattleChess Enhanced Edition
 
I would like this, But the only thing I have to trade is a new ( 1 month old )
2400bps modem. If you want it, call me at 813-458-1414. If I'm not there, leave
a mess. and I will get back to you.
Also, I am willing to pay cash for it. I can get it new here locally at
Wal-Mart for 40.00. I'll offer 25.00. The modem is worth 40.00. That's what I
paid for it a month ago. Have receipt. Lemme know.

                                                Thanks

                                                Jose Torres

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From: JOEY RATZSCH                           Number: 3240
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/10/93 10:45a
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TB> Special.... for 1 week I'm offering used Hitachi 3500 internal cd rom
 TB> drives for $99.   I have about 20 left.  30 day warranty included.
 TB> 205-824-2552

What are the speeds and specs of these drives?
Are the drivers included, and is the SCSI card?

Joey


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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 3241
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 11:18p
Subj: Prophone cd's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

1993 Prophone 7 cd set- includes residential and business listings for the
entire nation.
$85 or make me an offer.
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 3242
  To: ALLAN KENNEDY                            Date: 08/09/93  8:37a
Subj: WANT TO SWAP                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> I'll make an offer of $75.00 on the 800ms cd-rom drive Allen.

> -Joe
AK> Joe I appreciate the offer, but I am hopeing to trade all listed plus 
AK> maybe a little booty for a faster cd. thanks for the reply
AK> "BIG AL"

Ok Allen, keep me in mind if you happen to change your mind.. 

-Joe
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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 3243
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/11/93 10:06p
Subj: Discs                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 IA> CD PowerBox $12
 IA> CD Winbox   $12
 IA> Night Owl's v.9 $21
 IA> So Much Shareware III $21
 IA> GroupWare

Whats would the total be on these with your generous %5 discount? ;-)

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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 3244
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93 12:02p
Subj: Prices                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I need price on Night Owl Bussines & PC-Sig12..
Thanks..

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 3245
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/12/93  7:06a
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 WT> Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't 
 WT> seem to work with QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and 
 WT> should be able to be moved around by QEMM.  Perplexed 
 WT> beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.  Any ideas would 
 WT> help.

Hmmm... mine works (infact, all 3 mitsumis work with QEMM v6.01) I will have to
think about it. What version of QEMM do you have?

CJK

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From: DAVE DEGEAR                            Number: 3246
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/12/93  4:46p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to
 > work with QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and should be able to
 > be moved around by QEMM.  Perplexed beyond belief, maybe I
 > need a drink.  Any ideas would help.

   I had the same problem until I updated to the latest MITSUMI drivers.  I
have the file MITSUMI.ZIP available for f'req or download on your first call
(604-753-2257).  The date of the MTMCDE.SYS file must be Mar 5, 1993 to work
properly.

          ...Dave


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From: KIRK REEVES                            Number: 3247
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/12/93 11:52p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> 1....................37.00
 MS>  Animation Fantasies 1 or 2....29.00    Porkware 2 
 MS> (New!).............37.00
 MS>  Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private 

I am interested in the two disks above.  How far are you from Portland, OR?
I would like to visit your shop.

Also do you have any cd-players  Kodak Photo capiable?


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3248
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 08/12/93 11:26p
Subj: NIGHTOWL                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

VS>->             Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
VS>->                    it will be higher.
VS>Hi Kevin!

VS>    Tell you what - I'll give you as many copies of Night Owl 9 as YOU
VS>would like  for

VS>                      $ 24.50 a Copy !!!
VS>                      ******************
VS>     Tell them Vince sent you, or the price will be the same.

Nice touch Vince, I like it!  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3249
  To: TONY DAVIS                               Date: 08/12/93 11:26p
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TD> >life on the edge. I'll take ALL THE BUSTY'S I CAN GET MY HANDS ON!

TD>On July 20th, I was arrested and all my BBS equipment was seized. If
TD>found guilty, I am facing 15 years / $25,000 for sale & possession of
TD>obscene material.

Could you be a little more specific?  What material on your BBS was
deemed "obscene" by the authorities.  I have a hard time believing that
anything on Busty Babes could be construed as *obscene* by current
legal definitions.  I haven't seen anything on Busty Babes that can't
be found in any LEGALLY DISTRIBUTED adult magazine.

Let us in on your situation . . . what are the details???  In what
state do you live?

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3250
  To: DON BRADEN                               Date: 08/12/93 11:26p
Subj: re order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DB>Did you get the fax? and Is the order on the way? Thanks

Don,

I certainly did, and thanks for the order.  A couple of your CD's
were out of stock, so they didn't ship until 7/27.  Shipments to Canada
can be unpredictable because of the customs situation, so that would be
my guess as to why they haven't arrived yet.  The package was insured,
so if you don't see them in another week or so, let me know and I will
pursue it further.

Thanks,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3251
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 08/12/93 11:26p
Subj: A FEW CHESTNUTS LEFT!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

VS>Send me Clipart Goliath
VS>Colossal Cookbook
VS>Out solar system

Vito,

Be glad to, but first I need to confirm by phone.  Either give me a call
@ 509-457-2892, or leave your # so I can contact you.

Thanks,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3252
  To: B.A. CROWELL                             Date: 08/12/93 11:26p
Subj: CD ROM Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BC>    I saw your ad for CD's in this echo.  Do you carry Drives as well?  If
yo
BC>do I am interested in a 3 or 4 stand alone type for a BBS.  Can ya help?

Bruce,

Sorry, but I haven't found that extra 6 or 7 hours a day I need to delve
into hardware!  8)  I only stock CD's right now, which is OK for me
because I like to concentrate on one area if I can.  Try Boris or Ismail
in this echo.  They both have excellent prices on drives.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3253
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93 11:26p
Subj: SEEDY-ROM 6-PAKS: $149                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                     SEEDY ROM 6-PAK: $149 + $4 S/H.
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These famous adult CD sets are now available again. For a time they were hard
    to find, but Starvector has several sets in stock ready for immediate
 delivery at only $149 + $4 shipping. That's only $24.83 per CD, and each is
    packed with top-quality GIF pix with GIF's and FLI/GL animation on #6.

      >>> NO DUPLICATION BETWEEN CD'S!   OVER 29,000 GIF's IN ALL! <<<

                           >>> BBS-READY <<<

  Find a better advertised price?  Call us and we'll BEAT it!  No hassles.

   BONUS:  Seedy #7 (Seventh Heaven) available separately for only $31,
   or $24 if purchased with 6-Pak.

                          (Must state age 21+)

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3254
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93 11:27p
Subj: NEW ADULT CD TITLES!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

***************************************************************************
            NEW ADULT CD'S AVAILABLE FROM STARVECTOR . . . .
***************************************************************************

 Busty Babes 3.0...............33.00    After Dark Trilogy (movies)...45.00
 All Beauties..................36.00    Southern Beauties.............35.00
 Amateur Models................35.00    Dirty Talk (movie)............59.00
 Seymore Butts Interactive.....49.00    Girls of Vivid 1 or 2.........45.00

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MARK WOMACK                            Number: 3255
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/13/93  3:40p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Wes,

 WT> Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to work with
 WT> QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and should be able to be moved around by
 WT> QEMM.  Perplexed beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.  Any ideas would

The solution is simple:  Call QEMM's BBS and download the Mitsumi driver
they have on the board.  It can be loaded HIGH just fine.  Apparently,
this is the newest driver for the Mitsumi because it looks and acts
just like the one that came with the drive itself except that it loads  
high.  The number for the QEMM BBS is 310-314-3227.


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From: BRETT PARKER                           Number: 3256
  To: RON MITCHELL                             Date: 08/12/93  6:20a
Subj: Re: CD's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ron Mitchell scribbled in a message to Ismail Arslangiray:

 -=> Quoting Ismail Arslangiray to Ron Mitchell <=-

 > the Shareware Studio Vol. 1 and Vol. 2 and my CD won't read them
 > except on a hit or miss basis.  Now I'm kind of scared to buy any more

RM> My plan now is to check with the tech people at Mitsumi and
RM> try to get this problem resolved without my users having to
RM> do without access to the CDRom for an extended period of
RM> time.  I'm also going to go by the dealer's store where I
RM> bought the reader and try the CDs in some of their other
RM> Mitsumi CDs to be fair. 

I had the same problem with my first Mitsumi, the one with the slower access
time and the 8-bit controller. It happened with other disks as well as
Shareware Studio, but that was usually the one in because of the BBS. I never
did figure it out, I just bought one of the newer drives and have had no
problems since.

--Brett

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From: CHIP MORROW                            Number: 3257
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/12/93  7:48a
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WT> Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to work with QEMM.
WT> The driver is a TSR and should be able to be moved around by QEMM.
WT> Perplexed beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.  Any ideas would help.

Had the same problem here.  Only way around it is to REM the device=
line in your config.sys, then have optimize run through it's stuff.
When done, put "/X" on the end of the MTMCDE.SYS line to load the driver
into high memory.  Works well here on my 386sx-40.  From my config.sys:

DEVICE=\cd\MTMCDE.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:0 /M:20 /T:5 /I:10 /X


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From: DICK WILSON                            Number: 3258
  To: HARRY WHEAT                              Date: 08/12/93  1:56p
Subj: 6 disk cd-rom changer                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HW-|I am looking for a BBS program that will run a 6 disk Cd-rom changer on a B
HW-|I have looked all over and can't find anything. If anyone knows of anything
HW-|please leave me a message.    Thank's

Try 'ROMD202.ZIP' - excellent door, run it on my BBS using 2 Pioneer DRM 600's.

 * OLX 2.1 * Bungie jumpers are suicidal wanna-be's


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From: DON HOOKER                             Number: 3259
  To: DANNY BRIGANCE                           Date: 08/12/93  2:16p
Subj: Encyclopedia                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Danny, I saw that you had a Grolier's Encyclopedia for $20. If the
other guy doesn't want it, I'll take it your price and pay UPS shipping
and cod charges. Don Hooker
506 Barnes Drive
Brandon,Fla. 33511
leave me a note here or go ahead ang ship if you want.....thanx Don
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From: JAMES JONES                            Number: 3260
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93  5:58p
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I fouled it up, this is meant for Mark Clardy.  I would appreciate a
copy of your CD-Rom catalog.
James. B. Jones
1002 Yellowbird Place
Sun City Center, FL 33573
Thanks in advance, J.B.


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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 3261
  To: SHANE HEDRICK                            Date: 08/12/93 12:33a
Subj: Re: CD-Rom List                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SH>     Shane Hedrick
SH>     204 E. QuailCreek #B29
SH>     Cushing  OK, 74023

SH>                        Thanks
 
 Ok, we'll send you a list as soon as possible.  Thanks for replying.
 
                                               Mark
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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 3262
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 08/12/93 12:34a
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG>  Hello Mark.  Yes I would like the list of "ALL" the CD's your carry.
MG>  Please mail to:
MG>                  Max Green
MG>                  399 Westmeade Dr
MG>                  Gretna, LA. 70056
 
 We'll send you one as soon as possible.  Thanks for replying.
 
                                               Mark
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From: HERMAN WIGGINS                         Number: 3263
  To: CHRIS WISE                               Date: 08/12/93  4:20p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Chris!

Hey I will take one of those 99 dollar drives...

 * WCE 1.10/2094 * ++ Hey Rocky, watch me pull a tagline outta this hat!

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3264
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/12/93  1:10a
Subj: Re:  Disk                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>Bob believe it or not this is no joke--The BB 1.0 disc's are going for 
  >premium dollar, and Boris last week sold one for $250.00--I am sure 
  >that he is down to 1 or 2 left, and the consumers are bidding him 
  >to sell them against his desires--:) 
 
Hi Lee.  I think I have a Busty Babes 1.0 also.  Can you tell me how I 
can be sure?  I appreciate it! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: LEE MILLIGAN                           Number: 3265
  To: SAM FERTITTA                             Date: 08/12/93  7:06p
Subj: adult titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > -=> Quoting Lee Milligan to Dave Reed <=-

 > LM> * In a message originally to JOHN ROBINSON, Dave Reed said:
 > > JR>> Our new catalog is available for freq or download from the BBS

 > > JR> Nice prices...........

 > > JR>> ... If Clinton is the answer, it must have been a stupid
 > LM> question!

 > > JR> Stupid Mistake on your part tho...........

 > > I'm proud of her.  As more of the silent majority become
 > > vocal about their political feelings, Clinton's going to feel
 > > like a little man in a big house, real soon now.  At this
 > > rate, I'll be able to publish a CD-ROM full of Clinton's
 > > mistakes by the end of summer.  He's such a joke, I'll have
 > > to market it as a comedy, though.  ;-)


 > > ... My Broad Based Contribution - Kick Hillory in the butt!

 > LM> 'Scuse me for butting in....but let me know when you compile that
 > LM> 'Clinton's Mistakes' CD......I would like to purchase
 > LM> one......thanks... -!- FMail 0.94

 >  LM,
 >  Yeah, I would like to buy one also. But at this rate, it
 > might be a
 >  2 disker, or 3, or 7....................
 >  Sam.....


 > ... The 1st thing that Clinton wanted on his desk was
 > Flowers. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


 > --- PCBoard 15/GE 1.01+
 >  * Origin:  The Panic Zone * (716)473-5204 * (716)473-0252 * 
 > (1:2613/220)
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From: ANTHONY GATLIN                         Number: 3266
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93 11:21p
Subj: More Great Values!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 ********************************************************************
 *         More Great Values From Integrated Microsystems           *
 *                        (800) 764-6338                            *
 *  U.S. Robotics 14.4 Sportster     without fax     with 14.4 fax  *
 *     Internal......................-> 147 <-..........-> 175 <-   *
 *     External......................-> 165 <-..........-> 195 <-   *
 *                                                                  *
 * Yokohama Telecom 14.4 with 14.4 send/receive fax                 *
 *     Internal.....143    External.....179     Pocket.....199      *
 *                                                                  * 
 * TyIN 2000 Voice Mail/Modem/Fax..........................165      * 
 *                                                                  *
 * Fax Phone Auto Switch....................................59      * 
 *                                                                  *
 *  545 Meg Connor 10 ms Hard Drive........................649      *
 *  340 Meg Western Digital Caviar 13ms Hard Drive.........329      *
 *  340 Meg Maxtor 14ms Hard Drive.........................329      *
 *  250 Meg Western Digital Caviar 13ms Hard Drive.........249      *
 *                                                                  *
 *  Hewlett-Packard Laserjet 4............................1369      * 
 *                                                                  *
 *  250 Meg Internal Colorado Tape Backup..................179      *
 *  120 Meg Internal Colorado Tape Backup..................149  We  *
 *                                                            also  *
 *  Alabama Residents please include 4% for sales tax.       carry  *
 *  Please add $7 for Shipping and Handling.               systems  *
 *                                                                  *
 *  Integrated Microsystems   "Tremendous Products     Dealer and   *
 *  4402 Englewood Road        without a tremendous    quantity     *
 *  Helena, AL 35080           price."                 pricing      *
 *  (800) 764-6338             (205) 663-1268          available.   *
 ********************************************************************


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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 3267
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 08/12/93  9:22a
Subj: RE: SegaCD's                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
>Is that cd+g any good? My cdtv player can play that,,,what exact artists
>are on it and what price do you want for it?
It's a cool disk,unfortunately I can't play it since I got rid of my
SegaCD.It has 2 songs by Jimi Hendrix,2 by Information Society,2 by Fleetwood
Mac,2 by Little Feat,2 by Chris Isaak.It's in a double case with a regular
CD,so they would have to go together.You can have both for $10+S&H.
>btw,
>where did you buy that?
They came with my SegaCD.

If interested,you can send a M/O to:  Diana Kirksey
                                      1624 Hwy.99 Sp79
                                      Manteca,CA.  95336
 
You can reach me at my BBS:   Deanna's StarBBS  (209) 239-0883 or Voice
(209)239-1962

 
                                      Diana
 

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3268
  To: TONY DAVIS                               Date: 08/13/93  1:57a
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

10 Aug 93 11:05, Tony Davis wrote to Mike Shannon:

 TD> found guilty, I am facing 15 years / $25,000 for sale & possession of
 TD> obscene material.

"Possession of obscene material" -- what a country (though one hopes this is
actually a manifestation of Oklahoma BibleBeltism)!  Next it'll be illegal to
talk about not paying taxes.  I remember when what a person did in the privacy
of their home, not infringing on another's rights, was no one else's business.
Good luck.

I'm still looking for a used copy of 7th Guest for $35 shipped.  If it's still
legal to play computer games, of course.

+++ Too many laws, not enough freedom.

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From: NANCY PORTER                           Number: 3269
  To: BEN ACKERMAN                             Date: 08/13/93  1:25p
Subj: Problems w/ CD-ROMs                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BA> found that my Mitsumi is particularly sensitive to a dirty disc. I had 
BA> problems with reading a particular disc. All it took was a wipe with a  
BA> damp cloth. If your having problems with hit or miss reading or reading 
BA> errors this is something you might want to try. I would not recomend    
BA> using a paper towel as                                                  
 
I too found this, and cleaned the lens and that took care of the 
problem.  The disc was clean but the lens had accumliated a little 
dust...problem solved! 
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From: JAMES REYLE                            Number: 3270
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/13/93 10:45a
Subj: MAPS CDROM Which one?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To all:
 Looking for a good USA Map where I can get very detailed on street
 level. I was looking at these two, and I wanted to know what you
 guys thought about these programs.
             1. Precision Mapping
             2. Street Atlas

                                 Thanks
                                 James Reyle


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From: CHRIS WISE                             Number: 3271
  To: STEVE JONES                              Date: 08/12/93  5:19p
Subj: The 7th guest and mit                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          Steve Jones wrote
----------------------------------------
>>CD-ROM drive host adapter?
>>
----------------------------------------

  No, you must have the adapter card (atleast with the new ones).  I think it
is the IRQ or DMA (one of them does not match up)...

Lee Christopher Wise
===
 * TLX v3.00 * "Beautiful story.  Kinda gets you right HERE!"  -- Q


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From: SCOTT MARTIN                           Number: 3272
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/13/93  8:59a
Subj: CD ROM Disk                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Mike, I see you are getting a lot of good references. I wanted you to give 
me a reference for a Good CD ROM Disk to buy from you. I run a Gaming BBS. I 
am looking for a disk with NOTHING but Shareware and P.D. Games and Cracks. 
I'd like it to be all DOS or MOSTLY DOS (some windows Games are OK). I am 
already a distributor of Apogee, Epic MegaGames and Software Creations, so 
those wouldn't necessarily need to be on it, but I'd like it to be good 
quality games, not just a bunch of junk. Of course they would have to be 
archived and with FILES.BBS in the directories, and I would like to have as 
much of the disk filled as possible (in the 600-640 meg range). Lastly, I'd 
like for it to be mostly '93 and late '92 games. Got anything like that? Lemme
know. Also I'll be pre-paying, so give me the info and total cost to do so. 
Thanks!
Scott

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From: JOHN MORRISON                          Number: 3273
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93  5:29p
Subj: Battlechess-enhanced                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the replies re: Battlechess-Enhanced but we have found it  in
Winnipeg for $55.00.


                                        Thanks again

                                                John

 * 1st 1.10 #2112 * There is no problem that cannot be solved by high
explosives
--- Via InterPCB 1.00

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From: RACHEL REPSTAD                         Number: 3274
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/12/93  4:37p
Subj: Re: PROBLEM WITH A CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BF> * SLMR 2.1a * From the Law Offices of Dewey, Cheatham, and
BJ>Howe.

BJ>Just had to steal this one! -- Priceless!

BJ>... A feature is a bug with seniority.

What is all this stuff with leisure suit larry? Gotta go need to meet an
appointment at the airline to renew my Aerodork card. [Just another Lesiure
Suit Larry thing.]

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From: MICHAEL SHUBER                         Number: 3275
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93 10:22p
Subj: 7th Guest & SBPro                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in some update or patch that is supposed to be out for
the Sound Blaster Pro and The 7th Guest.  Does anyone know anything
about this???
___
 X SLMR 2.0 X All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here.

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From: CURT LARSON                            Number: 3276
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/13/93  6:02p
Subj: SCSI Cables                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking to purchase 2 external, 50 pin SCSI cables (or one with multiple
plugs).  I need a female on either end.  Please call (816)229-9530 or leave a
message here.  Thanks.

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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 3277
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/13/93  5:41p
Subj: Just Grandma and Me CD                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will do that when it gets closer to the time that the grant money gets
here. Thanks Mike.


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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 3278
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/13/93  5:45p
Subj: Grandma and ME                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Are you talking about a new or used copy, Al? I am just getting into
CdRom, so I don't have much in the way of disks yet. I will keep you in
mind. Please be patient - it could be another three or four weeks before
the grant money arrives.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3279
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/13/93  4:25p
Subj: X Movie Review CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

A while back, you gave me some prelim. data on a soon-to-be-released CD
that had reviews of X-rated movies on it by Jim Holliday. As I recall,
you know the producers. Can you find out (a) if that CD's been released
and (b) where it can be bought and (c) what the street prices currently
is?? Would be mucho appreciated ((:>

... "What?!? This isn't the Files section?!?"
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3280
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 08/11/93  3:50p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Actualy I wrote in Howard Phillips Lovecraft, I didn't like any
>of the candidates.

I've been known to write in John W. Campbell, jr. on occasion....


 * SLMR 2.1a * You must be from the shallow end of the Gene Pool....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3281
  To: LESLIE THOMAS                            Date: 08/11/93  3:52p
Subj: MATSUSHITA CD-ROM DRIVE W               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>DA>I am searching for a matsushita cd-rom drive.  Actually, I am searchin
>DA>drive that will interface with A creative Labs SoundBlaster pro.

>One of the drives that you are looking for is the Mitsumi...

NOT!!!!!!!!
 The only drives available for the SB Pro propriatary interface are
Matsushita/Panasonic units. Matsushita is the parent company for Panasonic....


 * SLMR 2.1a * I have heard the Sounds of Silence.... 8-<

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3282
  To: ROBERT BIR                               Date: 08/13/93  2:46p
Subj: Re: Trade adult CD for Adult            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 09 Aug 93  22:30:11, I heard Robert Bir shout to Kevin Plummer:

RB>  hello i have  xxx extreme if your still interested.
RB>              leave me mail
RB>                      ROBERT A BIR

Sorry, I would have, But already gotten rid of it.

                   Thanks Anyway.

              ....|<evin

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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 3283
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/13/93  1:28a
Subj: BB                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Bob Jackson <=-

Hi Boris -

What are your prices on the three versions of Busty Babes?


Thanks..

Steve

... Steve Gerweck, 530 Concetta Drive, Monroe, MI 48161-3542
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 3284
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/13/93  1:30a
Subj: SOME NEW ADULT CD'S!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

 MS> Busty Babes 3.0...............33.00

You released a message on 8/5 that you were selling BB 3 for $25.  What
happened???


Steve
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 3285
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93 10:58p
Subj: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          **********  GRAPHICAL IMAGES of FLORIDA, INC. **********

                   ********* P R E S E N T S *********

                 The NEW RELEASE of   "Southern Beauties"
                A FULLY COMMERCIAL - FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC


675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256 From Original 35mm Slides
300 Megs of the Best Images in 24 bit True Color. Installs Quickly &
Easily - Menu Driven - User Friendly - Popup Help Menus - Mouse Support
Keyword Search - Sound Blaster Intro - Multiple Directory Slide Show

 ********** SOUTHERN BEAUTIES MAY NOT BE USED ON ANY BBS **********

To Order Contact: Tradeshows Inc. 317-651-9848 or 317-651-1223


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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 3286
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 08/13/93 10:43p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 08-06-93  23:19 Peter Dettelis shared these words of wisdom: 

 PD> Computer Select on CD-ROM is available for $300 for a particular
 PD> month which holds a full year of info or on a subscirption basis of one
 PD> disc per month with a rotating year worth of info for about $1,000.

 Thanks. Not looking for computer publications at the moment, though.

 PD> I have not used the Bureau's nonfiction product but believe the World
 PD> Library CD-ROM is better.  CMC research puts out Shakespear and

 I have acquired Electronic Home Library (from World Library), and it
 appears to be a subset  of Library of the Future (fortunately, a subset
 including several philosophical works of interest to me). Got a great deal on
 it for $18.95. Magazine Rack is turning out to be good at work. Mag rack has
a
 much better search/retrieval engine than Electronic Home Library

 PD> Newsweek on CD-ROM retails for $70 and seems to be starting at a
 PD> street price of $50.  I believe the price will drop in the future.

 I found a reference to a place that will sell it for $39 when it comes
 out, but they're not sure when that will be or what, exactly, it will
 include. Sounds like it might be useful, though.

 PD> The COSUG BBS has switched back to the old phone numbers.  Jeff
 PD> Shapiro is the new SysOp.

Don't think I know him. Is Bonnie still chair?



... Where the Night Owl hoots
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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 3287
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 08/13/93 10:43p
Subj: Need information finder e               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 08-05-93  00:11 Peter Dettelis shared these words of wisdom: 

 PD> I am looking for the Information Finder Encyclopedia (World Bood
 PD> Encyclopedia) CD-ROM disc if anyone has it for sale or trade.

We have it at work (in the library, not, unfortunately, in my office),
and I find its coverage pretty superficial, much inferior to Groliers.


... If at first you don't succeed, put out a bug fix
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From: BILL HENDERSON                         Number: 3288
  To: SHANE HEDRICK                            Date: 08/13/93  3:48p
Subj: Microsoft Office                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Shane, I have 7th guest and CD Game Pack II that I'd trade.How about it?
Leave me a note or call 704-393-5211. Thanks




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From: MING CHAN                              Number: 3289
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/12/93  7:54p
Subj: NIGHTOWL                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 ->> On 11 Aug 93  01:30:16, Mike Shannon said to Ming Chan:

 MC>PC-Pix I 646MB,5500+ Gifs,200+ Movies Discription,Nightlog
 MC>Images,Gabby's Lounge,Garlique Graphics,Twilight Zone,
 MC>Prizm,Farmer Daughter & Suger Magnolia 05/92

 MS> If Vince doesn't have it, we stock them at $30 + $5 s/h to Canada.
 MS> No extra charge for VISA.

Hi Mike:

Do you known of or have you encountered any problems with such adult
CD-ROM being shipped across the border?



... Don't hit me, Mr. Moderator... I'll go back on topic... I swear!
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From: MARK GUTT                              Number: 3290
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93  6:34a
Subj: CD ROM SOFTWARE FOR SALE                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

--- GEcho 1.00
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From: MARK GUTT                              Number: 3291
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 08/13/93  9:04a
Subj: cd rom software for sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3292
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/13/93 12:49p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 AUGUST SPECIA               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   Still hundreds in stock!
Get the latest Shareware on Night Owl 9 for only $35 Canadian
including all taxes... plus receive Shareware Studio I at
no extra charge when you buy Night Owl and *ANY* other of our
many in-stock titles.

                 CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA
                     306-789-4654  Voice
                      306-789-8690  Fax
           6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sask., S4N 4G7
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3293
  To: MARK SMITH                               Date: 08/14/93  1:11a
Subj: FREE CD-ROM                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Looking for a dealership in Australia...??? wanna make some **REAL**
-> bucks...??? Send me your catalog if you are and I will pass it on to
-> the rest of Australia...
   We're currently negotiating with a number of folks in Australia, but
nothing has been settled yet... get me your address or FAX number, and
I'd be glad to send you some info. Our FAX number here is 306-789-8690
and our VOICE number is 306-789-4654.
   Vince
--- The Mail Box [NR]
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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 3294
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 08/13/93  9:46a
Subj: CSS CD Price List                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> For more information or ordering call CSS at 517-263-0017 1pm - 7pm.
-> online from our online shopping mall by calling 517-263-0273 speeds t
->
-> Mastercard/VISA/AMEX/Discover/COD accepted!
-> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
-> 7th Guest                                             60.00
-> Adventures of Willy Beamish                           35.00
-> Aircraft Encyclopedia                                 42.00
-> American Business Phonebook 1                         24.00
 
I have two questions for you.
 
1-=>What ar ethe hacker's chronicles?
 
2-=>Do you have any Cd+G Disks?


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 3295
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/13/93  9:47a
Subj: Computer Works                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Computer Works is an economical place to buy your CD-Roms with our
-> competitive pricing.  Download catalog.zip for the latest price list
-> complete with descriptions.  We have questionnaires online for placin
-> credit card and COD orders.
->
-> Computer Works
-> CD-Rom Sales!                                   Jim...
-> (205) 793-4481 Voice
-> (205) 671-0092 BBS  14.4k
->
-> --- FreeMail 1.08b
->  * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)
->
Do you have any Cd+G Cd's?


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From: SHANE HEDRICK                          Number: 3296
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/14/93 12:00p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       
  
          FOR SALE OR TRADE:

                 Unused SoundBlaster MIDI Kit
                 Microsoft Works for Windows (MM CD)
                 Creative Sounds with Prosonus
                 Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective

          Will consider all offers.

... File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N)
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From: SHANE HEDRICK                          Number: 3297
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/14/93 12:02p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       
  
          FOR SALE OR TRADE:

                 Unused SoundBlaster MIDI Kit
                 Microsoft Works for Windows (MM CD)
                 Creative Sounds with Prosonus
                 Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective

          Will consider all offers.

... File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N)
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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 3298
  To: BOB HALL                                 Date: 08/14/93 12:27a
Subj: CDT = CD'S, TRAVEL                      Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93  7:38p                       Private: No 

COMDEX is in Las Vegas (not Dallas) this year, so I hope you'll be there and we
can meet--at the Multimedia CD-ROM section of course.


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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 3299
  To: LESLIE THOMAS                            Date: 08/14/93  1:53p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Leslie,
     I have an MPC compatible CD-ROM drive that I run with my SBPRO.  I also
have 13 CDs that I would like to sell with it.  Please call me at 
(614) 363-8201 or leave a message here if you are interested. Thanks.


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From: RACHEL REPSTAD                         Number: 3300
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 08/13/93  4:24p
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What speed is the cd-rom drive you are selling? What is the lowest price you
would be willing to sell it for? Is it SBPro compatable? Please get back to me.

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 3301
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/12/93 12:18a
Subj: Welcome!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MC>SF> Thanks for the info
MC>SF>              Sam Figueroa

MC> Your welcome, Sam.  If there is ever anything that you would like to ask me
MC>don't ever hesitate to do so.  Also, if you would like a list of all the CD'
MC>that Computer Works carries, i'd be glad to mail one to you, if you would
MC>leave me your address.  Well, i'll ttyl.
MC>                                           Mark
MC>* SPITFIRE v3.3
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MC> * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)
 Mark
    My address is :
        Sam Figueroa
        Sam's Software
        Rt 2 Box 2453-A
        Manchester, TN 37355

                                Thanks for everything,
                                        Sam Figueroa


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 3302
  To: LEN BUSSEY                               Date: 08/12/93 12:23a
Subj: Re: Re:Cd Swap                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LB>SF>Len,
LB>SF>Starvector 208 is a shareware cd with 208 meg of shareware! Its not
LB>SF>all that bad for a small cd!

LB>If you wish I'll trade you SWOTL, Monkey Island, or Loom for the
LB>Starvector 208 CD.

LB>SF>       Do you have anything else to trade!

LB>That's about it.  I just recently got my CD-ROM and don't have too much
LB>in the way of software yet.  I have an encyclopedia, atlases, an
LB>animals CD etc.. but am not interested in parting with these.  I need
LB>the shareware CD for my BBS.  Call me voice 659-9216 if still
LB>interested in trading.  I'll pay shipping.

LB>                                    Len

LB>--- RBBSMail v18.3b7
LB> * Origin: 2010 BBS - Petersburg TN (615) 659-6470 (1:3622/10.0)
 Len,
        I would call you but could you please call me, because my
        phone bill is too much, at Sam's Software (615) 728-7383
   I would like Monkey Island? Do you have the manuals and stuff? Does
   any of it talk or does Loom talk? Which is the best in you
   consideration? How can we ship these?  Is there anyway that we can
   ship like COD, but when yours comes I give him mine to ship it too
   ya? If ya call, we could probably get it all figured out!
                                        Thanks a lot,
                                                Sam Figueroa


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 3303
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 08/12/93 12:34a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JM> I have a hardly used (in new condition) NEC CDR-35 external CD-ROM drive fo
JM>sale. The complete package contains an NEC interface card and cable, all
JM>original manuals, and software drivers.
JM> For the price of $140.00 (negotiable) I will guarantee against DOA and ship
JM>it to your door. If you are intersted, please reply via this echo.



JM>Thanks,   Jerry




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What are the speeds on this rom drive? Is it MPC compliant?
                                        Thanks,
                                                Sam Figueroa

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 3304
  To: CARL GRAHAM                              Date: 08/12/93 12:36a
Subj: TRADE GAMES FOR REF.                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CG>I have Ultima Underworld (The Stygian Abyss) and Wing Commander II..
CG>All docs and registration are in tact....used once...I am not a game
CG>player... I would like to trade these for a Enclylopedia or some other
CG>interesting reference material on CD Rom....Thanks Carl 904-733-4403.

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Are these on CD?  I have Nautilus CD for trade, that has some good
multimedia files, and it has I think a Time Almanac on it? It has a
version of PC Karaoke and a few other Window things, its also supposed
to be Kodak cd compatible?
                                Thanks,
                                        Sam Figueroa


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From: B.A. CROWELL                           Number: 3305
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/13/93 11:06p
Subj: Drives                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris,
     Do you sell CDROM Drives?  If so do you have one that will handle 6 CDs
at a time and How many $.


                                                        Thanks,
                                                              B.A. 
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From: BILL ALEXANDER                         Number: 3306
  To: JOHN TRIMBACK                            Date: 08/14/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: CDROM Drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

John,

How much for 2  4x9 SIMMs?



Thanks


Bill

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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 3307
  To: MICHAEL MULCAHY                          Date: 08/13/93 12:19a
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MM>Send one to Mike Mulcahy
MM>9300 Hamilton Drive
MM>Fairfax, VA 22031
 
 Hello, Mike.  We'll send you one ASAP.  Thanks for replying.
 
                                       Mark
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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 3308
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 08/13/93 12:21a
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

VS>Vito A Servideo
VS>2741 ne 24 street
VS>LIghthouse Point, FL  33064

VS>p.s.
VS>do you have any cd+g titiles?
 
  Hey, Vito.  We'll try to get one to you as soon as we can.  Thanks 
 for replying. 
                                               Mark

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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 3309
  To: DAVID M. WHITE                           Date: 08/13/93 12:23a
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DMW>I would like to receive your listing:  send to:
DMW>David M. White
DMW>452 N. Bull Run Dr.
DMW>Tucson, Az 85748
 
 Hello, David.  We'll try to send you a list as soon as possible. 
Thanks for replying. 
                                       Mark
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From: MIKE BRITT                             Number: 3310
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/12/93 10:12p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 WT> Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to 
 WT> work with QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and should be able to 
 WT> be moved around by QEMM.  Perplexed beyond belief, maybe I 
 WT> need a drink.  Any ideas would help.

     I am running that combination without error. What version of the driver
are you using? You need to use 2.22 I believe.

                                                            Mike

Sphinx EM/v5.0 * Hey! Don't pick up that phoׯ»’ችÃÒç

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 3311
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/14/93  9:57a
Subj: Re:  Disk                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <08-12-93 01:10> Jim Lambert wrote:

JL>> I think I have a Busty Babes 1.0 also.  Can you tell me how
JL>> I can be sure?  I appreciate it!

No problem, Jim...the label film on the disc says, "Graphic Software"--Dealers
now have bids for $350.00 per each 1.0 disc--
Versions 2.0 and 3.0 do not have these large font words on the disc film--If
you have one of these, hold onto it--

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 3312
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/14/93  9:58a
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <08-13-93 16:25> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> A while back, you gave me some prelim. data on a soon-to-be-released
BJ>> CD that had reviews of X-rated movies on it by Jim Holliday.

Have not heard anymore on this--Don't speak to them often but I will make a
point on asking them about an update ! So how did you like the "SHowoff"
interface on BB--You never reviewed it like you said you would :)

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 3313
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/14/93 10:02a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Tony Davis <08-12-93 23:26> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS>> Could you be a little more specific?  What material on your BBS was
MS>> deemed "obscene" by the authorities.

I have the article here--The agents bought "XXX Extreme" in JUne and returned
back and bought "Ecstasy"--The disc's went before a judge who declared them
obscene which gave the authorities the right to do a search and seize of his
premises-he is from Oklahoma--

The obscenity was the penetration--Okie is a tough State for porn anyways--

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 3314
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/14/93  9:40a
Subj: A FEW CHESTNUTS LEFT!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> VS>Send me Clipart Goliath
-> VS>Colossal Cookbook
-> VS>Out solar system
->
-> Vito,
->
-> Be glad to, but first I need to confirm by phone.  Either give me a c
-> @ 509-457-2892, or leave your # so I can contact you.
->
-> Thanks,
-> .\\ike
->
-> ---
->  * SLMR 2.1a * Tagline thievery . . . On the next Geraldo!
->
-> --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
->  * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:
->
 YOu could call me at (305)4279002..that's my work, and I'm always there

I tried calling you today(saturday)


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 3315
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/14/93  9:42a
Subj: Re: RED HOT                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  >> HOT PIX 5
->
-> Newest in the X-Rated Hot Pix seriers, with nearly 600 megs of
-> adult images and it's bbs ready.
->
->  >> PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK
->
-> A large assortment of various source codes, text files, routines and
-> more and it to is BBS ready.
->
->  >> AMATEUR MODELS
->
-> New Release from the authors of "Monster Disk 2". This is an R-Rated
-> adult cd, with good scans.
->
-> >>    Tell me more about these discs, please??
->
-> Hope this helps....if not...call us and we'll be happy to help you
-> further.
->
-> Boris Osadciw
->
-> ... Press F1 to Reboot
-> --- FMail 0.96â
->  * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46)
->
do you sell any cd+g titles?


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 3316
  To: ALEX MAHAN                               Date: 08/14/93 12:38a
Subj: Nightowl                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Alex!

Tuesday August 03 1993, Alex Mahan writes to All:

 AM> Has anybody seen nightowl 8 or 9 going cheap? I need a good cd-rom with
 AM> everthing on it (actually my dad does) but I havent seen them for iunder
 AM> $30. Thanks for any input, Alex

Night Owl v9.0  $29
Night Owl v8.0  $25
Get Both for    $49

CD-ROM International
(800) 678-2374  (Orders)
(509) 754-0724  (General BS line)
(509) 754-0109  (BBS/Fax)


... Grow your own dope... plant a liberal!

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From: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                       Number: 3317
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 08/13/93 12:45a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JM>  I have a hardly used (in new condition) NEC CDR-35 external CD-ROM
JM> drive
JM> 
JM> Thanks,   Jerry
JM> 

Is that a SCSI drive, and is it complete?

Thanks!

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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 3318
  To: WYATT WOLFE                              Date: 08/14/93 10:29a
Subj: RE: Mitsumi                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>      I do not know why you are having a problem with qemm... I have ran
>every version of Qemm since 5.0 was out... I now run 7.0.... I also run two
>Mitsumi
>LU002S drives... Qemm loads both device drivers high and the MSCDEX high
>also... both drives are accessable... and have never had any problems... May

I can't get QEMM to work either,but it's only since I installed my Trident
SVGA in Windows,now it says that it can't load the video driver at address
B000 ,yet I tried to exclude that address in QEMM and it didn't work.Do you
know of a way to make Windows use a different address for the Video
Driver.When I had the 16 color driver,there wasn't a conflict,so I presume
this card is using ALOT more memory and interfering with the HMA in QEMM,but
I would like to find a way to get them to work together.
 Hope you can help,

                     Thanks,

                                       Diana

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From: DONALD MACKAY                          Number: 3319
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 08/14/93 12:00a
Subj: Os/2 Disk?                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF>Selectware has a "1000+ OS/2 Applications" demo disk available - I THINK it
BF>free if you call them and ask for it....

Do you have an address or telephone number for those folks Brice?
___
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3320
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/14/93  9:47a
Subj:   Disk                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JL> Hi Lee.  I think I have a Busty Babes 1.0 also.  Can you tell me  
 JL> can be sure?  I appreciate it!                                    
                                                                       
  
I'm sure Lee wil answer, too, Jim - the *easiest* way to tell is to look 
for two directories of text files called "STORY1" and "STORY2".  If 
they're *MISSING*, you've got a Rel. #1 !! 
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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 3321
  To: JOHN TRIMBACK                            Date: 08/14/93  5:40p
Subj: Re: CDROM Drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>hey mike, i have 340 meg scsi2 (ibm) harddrive (almost brand new),
>1,2,4 meg simms and microsoft excel 4.0 & powerpoint v3.0 for Mac i
>can trade or maybe something else to get 2 internal cd rom
>drives..let me know...

Sorry, but I have all the hardware (and then some) that I can use in two
machines.


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 3322
  To: FREDDY FAVELA                            Date: 08/14/93  5:41p
Subj: Re: Toshiba Cd-Rom                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>               Michael if the TOSHIBA XM-3201 INTERNAL CD can run
>                on a 286 sx16mhz with 1 mg ram I'm interested!!
>               and if it cant please let me now what I need!

It will work as long as you have a SCSI controller.

205-837-5053


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 3323
  To: JASON PAUL                               Date: 08/14/93  5:41p
Subj: Re: CDROM Drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>MK>SCSI CDROMs For Sale:
>
>MK>Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
>MK>Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00
>
>MK>Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac.
>
>My drive from you works great on my amiga.  I see that you say that
>it works great on a mac.  I still haven't located the drivers to
>run it. Have you sold drives to mac users?  If so do you know where
>I can get the drivers or can you give me the names of the mac users
>that have bought these drives from you?  Thanks!

My local Mac Dealer has the scsi drivers on the shelf for $50.00.

205-837-5053


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 3324
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/14/93  6:10p
Subj: scsi cdrom                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



SCSI CDROMs For Sale:

Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00

Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac.  Features 50 Pin True SCSI, 
300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and 64k Buffer.
Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty

205-837-5053 anytime.




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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 3325
  To: GARY HOFFERMAN                           Date: 08/14/93  8:17p
Subj: Dealers wanted                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (13 Aug 93) Gary Hofferman wrote to All...

 GH> Hello to All,
 GH> 
 GH> We are looking for resellers and system builders who would be
 GH> interested in marketing/bundling CD ROM Software. We can supply all of
 GH> the most popular titles at very competitive and flexible pricing.
 GH> 
 GH> If you would be intersted, please contact me at CONSOLIDATED CD ROM:
 GH> 515 67th Avenue Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19126 USA +1.215.276.3657
 GH> voice or +1.215.276.3854 fax 24hrs.
 GH> 

	We would be intersted in bundling your CD-ROM Software. Our
	specialty is storage devices, and anything related.

			The Storage Specialists
			9400 W. 51st Avenue
			Arvada, CO 80002

			1.303.940.1012
			Paul Sedillo
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From: ART BREAULT                            Number: 3326
  To: RON MITCHELL                             Date: 08/14/93 11:00p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Are you accessing the cd rom through a dma channel or a software
actuation. My cd rom had to go to software access due to the fact I could
not convince the computer to accept E drive when I used dma access. No
matter what I did it thought D. This conflicted with a hard drive. I am
using extention 2.3. I software actuation then the scsi interface should
not be a problem. I believe though that I to was told that cd roms were
interface sensitive.


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From: DAVID NAFFIS                           Number: 3327
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/15/93 12:36a
Subj: Nightowl                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       I am interested in buying night owl 9 and the mystery cd. Can you give
me some more info on it and how/where to send my money.

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From: DAVID NAFFIS                           Number: 3328
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/15/93 12:38a
Subj: CD'S ON SALE!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am also intrested in shareware overload. It seems you have a lot of good
deals. Can you send me a list of cd's?

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From: DAVID NAFFIS                           Number: 3329
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/15/93 12:56a
Subj: Sound Sample CD-ROM Disc                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       You should get Creative Sounds from creative labs. It has hundreds of
.WAV, .MOD, and more; both songs and sound effects.

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From: THOM JENNINGS                          Number: 3330
  To: SHANE HEDRICK                            Date: 08/14/93  9:41p
Subj: Microsoft Office                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*SH> Anyone interested in a copy of Microsoft Office on CD?  Would like to t*
*SH> for                                                                    *
*SH> Kings Quest 6 or 7th Guest + a couple of shareware CD's.  Or make an of*
*****************************************************************************

I don't have either you are looking for but can buy 7th Guest and
complete a deal.  Is the sale of your CD complete with license?  Call
me at (701) 747-4130 M-F 0730-1630.  If I'm not in leave me a number
to call you back at and I'll call you that evening.
Thom
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From: THOM JENNINGS                          Number: 3331
  To: FRITZ WILSON                             Date: 08/14/93  9:44p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*FW> DEVICE=c:\qemm\loadhi.sys /r:2 \dev\mtmcdd.sys /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /S:3 /*
*FW> /M:19 /T:3 /I:2                                                        *
*******************************^^^^******************************************

Watch out for this portion of the command line.  His upper memory
region may be a 1 or 3 depending on the computer config.  Best to let
QEMM's OPTIMIZE do the job.
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From: BRETT SEAL                             Number: 3332
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/15/93 11:11a
Subj: CD_ROM Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey ya'll! I am looking for a good, yet somewhat inexpensive EXTERNAL CD-ROM
Drive for a Compaq 486 system. If anyone has any good prices or knows where I
can get one just write me, or send me FidoNet 123/52. Thanks-
Brett A. Seal


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From: PHILLIP GOSNELL                        Number: 3333
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/13/93 11:38p
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I WOULD LIKE A CATALOG.
PLEASE SEND TO
PHILLIP GOSNELL
4431 NOHL CREST DR
FLOWERY BRANCH,  GA 30542

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From: JEFF BRIELMAIER                        Number: 3334
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/13/93  1:13p
Subj: MITSUMI AND QEMM                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WT>Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to work with QEMM.
WT>The driver is a TSR and should be able to be moved around by QEMM.
WT>Perplexed beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.  Any ideas would help.

What version of Mitsumi driver do you have?  According to Quarterdesk
Support, 
version 2.10 would lock up if QEMM attempted to load it into upper memory.  
There is a Version 2.10a (which is on their support BBS, 310-314-3227) that 
can be loaded high.  I have that version (I d/l'd from their BBS), but I've 
never bothered to re-optimize the setup.

 * KingQWK 1.05 * WindowError:006 Malicious error.  Desqview found on drive.
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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 3335
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 08/14/93  7:28p
Subj: Gene Pool?                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     Nah, the shallow end of the Gene C. Breedlove Lake...

     Where the time capsule is buried.

     Too bad they didn't have CDs back in those days.

     Imagine fan publishing on CDs!

     Here I am trying to manage on floppies with DART [see Tom Easton's book
columns in alternate issues of ANALOG].

     Read "Zombies of the Gene Pool" by Sharyn McCrumb, in paperback.

     *:o)


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From: LESLIE THOMAS                          Number: 3336
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/14/93  7:42a
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AJ>LT>I am interested in buying  a used CD Rom that is comptatible with u
AJ>LT>the SBPro as a controller.  Anyone have one they are interested in
AJ>LT>with?
AJ>
AJ>I have one ... and even more...it's the tope of the line external mode
AJ>I can let it go for $265.00.  Let me know soon, Either way!


As I said, I am interested in a model that would be controllable through
the port on the SB Pro...I need an internal model.  Thank you for the
repsone though.

    WinQwk 2.0 a#0


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From: BRIAN MILLER                           Number: 3337
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/13/93  5:32p
Subj: Walnut Creek Releases                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> We now have Giga Games in stock!..

How much for this cd?


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From: JEFF COCHRAN                           Number: 3338
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/15/93  1:43p
Subj: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  ********** SOUTHERN BEAUTIES MAY NOT BE USED ON ANY BBS **********

Kinda cuts its market...


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From: BUNNY MCELWEE                          Number: 3339
  To: PAUL SEDILLO                             Date: 08/15/93 11:43a
Subj: Distributors wanted???                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    Hi I saw a message that you were looking for distributors, but I
can't seem to find the original...SO, anyways, here's my address and
all as I am interested in what you have to offer...Thanks and hope to
hear from you soon.

DC Computing
P.O. Box 1026
Ladson, S.C.  29456

BBS #'s 1-803-873-5797
              871-2261
              851-7701
FIDO # 1:372/57

Thanks again...


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From: THOMAS KINNEN                          Number: 3340
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/15/93 10:43a
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WT-> Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to work with QEMM.
WT-> The driver is a TSR and should be able to be moved around by QEMM.  Perple
WT-> beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.  Any ideas would help.

See if you have driver Version 2.10a or higher.  The earlier versions
had problems with QEMM's LOADHI.SYS.


                        Tom


 * QMPro 1.50 41-9168 * Has the village idiot called you a moron yet today?

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From: DANNY BRIGANCE                         Number: 3341
  To: DON HOOKER                               Date: 08/15/93  8:42a
Subj: Encyclopedia                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Hi Danny, I saw that you had a Grolier's Encyclopedia for
 > $20. If the
 > other guy doesn't want it, I'll take it your price and pay

Sorry Don but it is already sold....

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From: DOUG HUNKELE                           Number: 3342
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/14/93  8:36p
Subj: adult cd                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

with all the "Legal" problems running around these days with "adult" material
on a BBS, the question is:
       Which ADULT CDs are 100% hassle free for putting on a BBS??  It is
probly a two part answer, one with no copyright worries, the other is just
having adult material on your bbs depending on where you are located could
cause you enough problems as it is.
      What SWIMSUIT CDs are legal for posting on a bbs??
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From: TROY JOHNSON                           Number: 3343
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/15/93  9:57a
Subj: Flatbed Scanner                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a Epson GS-600 (ES-600C), color flatbed scanner for sale.

It is about three months old, I am selling it because someone donated me
a HPIIC and no longer need it for the board!

I will let it go for best offer over $550.00 comes with the parrallel
interface card and all docs and cables..

Call me voice at 702-459-8862 after 4P.M. P.S.T. for more details

Troy Johnson

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3344
  To: HARRY WHEAT                              Date: 08/13/93  1:00p
Subj: 6 disk cd-rom changer                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HW>I am looking for a BBS program that will run a 6 disk Cd-rom changer on a 
  >BBS. I have looked all over and can't find anything. If anyone knows 
  >of anything please leave me a message.    Thank's 
 
Hi Harry.  For Spitfire BBSes, SF-Rom does it very well.  For other 
BBSes that use door.sys, EZ-Rom is the same thing.  EZROM120.ZIP or 
SFROM120.ZIP are both available for download on the first call at 
Computer Works.  I am running the Pioneer 604X, and know someone who 
runs three 600's along with at least three single drives on his BBS. 
If you have more than one node and a second person tries to access the 
drive while it is already in use, they will get a busy signal.  Since it 
copies files to be downloaded to the hard drive, the CD changer does not 
stay busy very long.  It is a very nice program. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 3345
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/13/93  5:46p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike, just wanted to say my CD's arrived today. It's a pleasure doing business
with you. Prompt service and great prices. Thanks!

... Move your vowels every day or you'll get consonated
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: MARK GUTT                              Number: 3346
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 08/14/93  7:30a
Subj: cd rom software for sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry BUBBA, its been sold

                       Mark

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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 3347
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/14/93  6:15p
Subj: Southern Beauties                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          **********  Graphical Images of Florida, Inc. **********
             Announces The NEW RELEASE of   "Southern Beauties"
                A FULLY COMMERCIAL - FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC

675 Megs-OVER 65 Top Models-1000 GIFs-1024x768x256 From Original 35mm Slides
300 Megs of the Best Images in 24 bit True Color. Installs Quickly & Easily-
Menu Driven - User Friendly - Popup Help Menus - Mouse Support - Keyword
Search - Sound Blaster Front Loader - Multiple Directory Slide Show
*************** SOUTHERN BEAUTIES MAY NOT BE USED ON ANY BBS ***************

To Order Contact: Faye Sharp at Tradeshows Inc. 317-651-9848 or 317-651-1223  
 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3348
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/15/93  8:30a
Subj:  BUSTY BABES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> The obscenity was the penetration--Okie is a tough State for por  
 LN> anyways--                                                         
                                                                       
  
Thanks for the data, Lee. There's a saying here in The Lone Star State 
that the only reason we don't fall into the Gulf of Mexico is because 
Oklahoma sucks. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3349
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/15/93  8:05a
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Au contraire! Two days after I got BBR3 I posted a three page review rite
cheer on this here echo. I still have a hardcopy of it; if you like I'll mail
you one.

I didn't talk too much about the GIFs but I went into quite a monologue about
SHOWOFF. Basically I said it represented the state-of-the-practice if not the
state-of-the-art in GUI front ends for CDs. I only cited a few negatives such
as the reduced images being quite "grainy", etc. and I said to you personally
at the end of the review that I hoped all your future releases would include
SHOWOFF as their user interface.

Now you've got me concerned that the BBS I use had a glitch and didn't get the
mail out that particular time.

Does ANYONE recall reading my review of Busty Babes Release 3.0?? If not, I'll
recreate it and re-post.

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From: TONY MILLER                            Number: 3350
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/15/93  6:59p
Subj: CD-ROM TO BUY                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I Am look ing for an external cd-rom with a 16 bit sound card if you have one
for sale or trade lets talk (504)885-3995 ASK FOR TONY


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From: MARK DEWAR                             Number: 3351
  To: TOYSHOP                                  Date: 08/13/93  6:11p
Subj: ADD                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Control message generated by QMPro 1.50
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From: MICHAEL TURNER                         Number: 3352
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/14/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On Thu 12-Aug-1993  7:13a, Ismail Arslangiray babbled:
IA> Hi,
IA> Also within two weeks we are publishing an Amiga disk in ISO-9660 format
IA> for BBS Systems. TTYL

I thought that ISO-9600 was the standard, not ISO-9660? Or did I write it down
incorrectly? :)

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From: ROB O'DELL                             Number: 3353
  To: JOHN TRIMBACK                            Date: 08/15/93  1:02a
Subj: Re: NEC CDR-73/83                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hey rob...i have a (almost new) 340meg IBM scsi drive i could trade,
-> 2 , 4meg simms, Microsoft Powerpoint 3.0 and Microsoft Excel v4.0 for
-> maybe some other stuff to trade for 2 internals..leave mail if intere

What's the specs on the 340 meg SCSI?

Dimensions?
SCSI or SCSI-2?
Speed?
Make and model?

I'm interested in this drive, I could trade an internal CD-ROM unit for
it.  Let me know the specs.

Rob


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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 3354
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/15/93  1:28p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Vito Servideo <=-

 BO> Yes, version 1.0 volume 3.0 ! Interested, give us a call at the above
 BO> number and we'll be happy to help you out.

How much is shipping and handling?


Steve

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From: MIKE MARKOV                            Number: 3355
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/13/93  4:25p
Subj: R.e.m.                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

to all r.e.m. fans.. there's 3 new cd singles for 'everybody hurts' the first
has and unreleased instrumental called 'mandolin strum' the 2nd has "mandolin"
& 'belong (Live 4/92)' & 'orange crush (live 11/89)', the 3rd has 'star me
kitten (demo)', 'losing my religion (live 4/92)' & 'organ song'
* SPITFIRE v3.3
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From: JEREMY NINO                            Number: 3356
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/14/93  1:15a
Subj: CDD163 Interface card                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for an interface card to an external Magnavox, CD-ROm, Model 
CDD-163.  If you have one, PLEASE call me at 1-903-473-2676.  
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From: JEREMY NINO                            Number: 3357
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/14/93  1:18a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Alright!  Gittem BUB!!!
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From: JEREMY NINO                            Number: 3358
  To: DAVID SEITZ                              Date: 08/14/93  1:21a
Subj: WHOLESALING & RETAILING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ME TOO!  My Adress is:
                      Rt. 3, Box 419B
                      Emory, TX. 75440-9803
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3359
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/15/93 11:21p
Subj: Disk                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > In a message to Lee Noga <08-12-93 01:10> Jim Lambert
 > wrote:

 > JL>> I think I have a Busty Babes 1.0 also.  Can you tell me how
 > JL>> I can be sure?  I appreciate it!

 > No problem, Jim...the label film on the disc says,
 > "Graphic Software"--Dealers now have bids for $350.00
 > per each 1.0 disc--
 > Versions 2.0 and 3.0 do not have these large font
 > words on the disc film--If you have one of these, hold
 > onto it--
I have Busty Babes 1.0 where can I sell it for that price?
Sure would like to know! I would even sell it for less!
                    Thanks Pat Rickerson
                          512-939-7095
                          Corpus Christi Texas

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3360
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/15/93 11:29p
Subj: Busty babes, before 3                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Very interesting, Jerry! I don't frequent hamfests
 > mainly cuz they're always on the other side of town -
 > and in Houston that can easily be 50 miles away. I
 > have a copy of the "original" BB, but when I was
 > looking hard for one, many others said they were
 > interested as well. Maybe the hamfest CD sellers
 > should get themselves on to this here echo (:>

Have Busty #1, know any one that wants to buy it?
                     Pat Rickerson
                          512-939-7095

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From: KIRK REEVES                            Number: 3361
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/13/93 11:19p
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 AJ> I have one ... and even more...it's the tope of the line external model.
 AJ> I can let it go for $265.00.  Let me know soon, Either way!

I am interested.  Can you tell me what the access time is and track seek?

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From: PETE CRESSWELL                         Number: 3362
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/14/93  3:45p
Subj: MULTI VS SINGLE PLAYERS                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Here are a few beginner's questions that I'd like to throw out for comment.

1)  If a six-platter changer costs $750 and single-platter players can be had
for $150 each ( 6 * 150 = $900) couldn't one argue for six standalone players
because of:

- Redundant backup: in one goes south you still have five working.
- No waiting: as long as 2 callers are accessing different platters,
  there's no mutual exclusion.                                     
- Faster access: it's gotta take *some* time to swap to another platter even   
 if nobody else is using the one currently mounted.

2)  I've heard it said that transfer speed is moot and to get the slowest
(cheapest...) drives available.

Seems to me that if downloads are front-ended by copies to a hard drive, that
speed is still relevant insofar as it speeds the copy step.

3)  I've also heard it said that a nanny machine (i.e. a server) is needed for
multiple CDRoms on a multi-line BB because CDRom drives use DMA interrupts and
tie the rest of the system up too much.

If I have a SCSI card that doesn't use DMA interrupts, does that reduce or
eliminate the need for a server machine? 

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From: CHRIS WISE                             Number: 3363
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/14/93  7:06p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   There is a new driver out for Mitsumi which will allow qemm to load the
driver high.  If you can not find it you can find it at the bulletin board
listed below!   later.

Lee Christopher Wise
===
 * TLX v3.00 * So many lawyers, so few bullets.


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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 3364
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 08/15/93  2:08p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I've been known to write in John W. Campbell, jr. on occasion....

Call me ignorant, but who is J. Cambell Jr.?




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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 3365
  To: BRETT PARKER                             Date: 08/15/93  3:20p
Subj: Re: CD's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BP> I had the same problem with my first Mitsumi, the one 
 BP> with the slower access time and the 8-bit controller. 

That's the one I have.  The Mitsumi tech people seem to think that it's a
software problem.  The dealer is without a clue unless I bring him my BBS
machine(which at this time I'm not going to do, unless he can guarantee me 2
hour service so my hub won't have to hold my mail).

 BP> It happened with other disks as well as Shareware 
 BP> Studio, but that was usually the one in because of the 
 BP> BBS. I never did figure it out, I just bought one of 
 BP> the newer drives and have had no problems since.

That might be my move too.  Now the newer, faster, 16-bit drives are the same
price I paid for my slow 8-bit drive(only three months ago, too). :(

The good side is I still have 9 monmths of warranty left, so I can pick a time
convienent to me to get it worked on.  Probably buy a 16-bit drive and throw
this 8-bit through someones window.

BTW, the dealer's 16-bit Mitsumi read the CDs with no problem.

                                   Ron

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 3366
  To: MARK SMITH                               Date: 08/15/93  8:26p
Subj: Aussie Needs help...                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> And of course the best places to buy CD's long 
 MS> distance..<grin> Anyone want to start a branch in 
 MS> Australia...???<grin>

 MS> Thanks for your help!

We have pretty good prices and would be glad to work with you on selling CDs in
Australia.  Do you have a fax?

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 3367
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 08/15/93  8:35p
Subj: Prices                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MW> I need price on Night Owl Bussines & PC-Sig12..
 MW> Thanks..
 
We sell them for 22.95 and 24.95 normally.  Will let you have the Night Owl
Business for $16.  Call 615-339-0235 24 hours to order.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 3368
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/15/93  8:42p
Subj: low low cdrom prices                    Refer: NONE
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     ShareWare (** BBS Ready)             Miscellaneous (cont.)
 
AB20 Amiga CD-Rom.............14.50 Clip Art Heaven...............25.95
America's Premier 1993 Sharw..24.95 Coates Art Review.............44.95
Aminet Amiga............**....14.50 College Handbook (1992).......18.95
C Users Group Library.........29.50 Color Magic Clip Art..........27.50
California Collection...**....16.95 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00
CD Powerbox.............**....19.95 Complete Bookshop.............13.00
Fred Fish On-Line(Amiga)**....49.95 Composer Quest................36.95
Garbo MSDOS/MAC Shareware.....14.50 Compton's Interactive Encylop.97.95
Giga Games..............**....28.95 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....68.95
Gigabyte Gold...........**....22.50 Conan.........................32.95
Ham Radio (Shareware).........13.00 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50
Libris Britannica.......**....41.95 Cookbook Heaven...............19.95
Lion Share..............**....23.95 Crossword Cracker.............23.95
Magnum Sight & Sound....**....28.95 DAC Accounting Bonus Pk v4.4.154.95
Megarom 1...............**....19.95 DAC Accounting for DOS v4.4...99.95
Megarom 2...............**....23 95 DAC Instant Accountng-DOS/WIN.39.95
Monster Disc (2 Cds-92).**....38.50 DAC Instant Rolodex for WIN3..39.95
Monster Media '93.......**....31.95 DAC Payroll for DOS v4.4......99.95
NightOwl 5.0............**....15.95 DAC Rolodex Live v2.0.........39.95
Nightowl 6.0............**....22.95 Danger Hot Stuff 1............18.95
Nightowl 7.0............**....22.95 Danger Hot Stuff 2............24.95
Nightowl 8.0............**....25.00 DeathStar Arcade Battles......13.00
Nightowl 9.0............**....25.00 Deep Voyage...................34.95
Nightowl Bus. Applications....22.95 Desert Storm..................34.95
Original Shareware 1992.**....16.95 Desktop Bookshop..............27.50
OS/2 Archives (Hobbes)........14.50 Dictionaries & Languages......13.00
PC Sig H & B Collection.......29.95 Dictionary of Living World....99.95
PC Sig #10..............**....22.95 Dinosaur Adventure MPC........33.95
PC Sig #11..............**....24.95 Dinosaurs MPC.................54.95
PC Sig #12..............**....24.95 Doctors Book of Home Remedies.36.95
PC Sig #9...............**....17.95 Dune..........................46.95
Phoenix v3.0............**....14.95 Education Master or Business..19.95
Pier Shareware #1.......**....26.95 Electronic Cookbook...........31.95
Powerpak Gold...........**....22.95 Elec. Home Libr.(250 books)...34.95
SCI-FI (Pics,Sound).....**....26.95 Encyclopedia of Clip Art......24.95
SDN 1...................**....19.95 Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.00
Shrw Extravaganza(4 cds)**....42.95 Essential Home/Bus Collection.18.95
Shareware 1993..........**....19.95 European Monarchs.............48.95
ShareWare Overload............13.00 Executive Factomatic..........36.95
Shareware Studio #1.....**....20.95 Family Doctor.................24.95
Shareware Studio #2(NEW)**....23.95 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......27.95
Shareware Tiger.........**....24.95 Fontmaster #1-18.95....or #2..27.95
Simtel 20 (Gov't Sharw).**....14.50 Fonts #1......................27.95
So Much Shareware #1....**....19.95 Full Bloom....................36.95
SO Much Shareware #2....**....24.95 Future Wars...................48.95
Software Vault #1.......**....22.95 Game Arena....................13.95
Software Vault #2.(NEW).**....23.95 GameMaster (Over 500 Games)...19.45
Sound Sensations..............13.00 Games 1993................**..24.50
Source Code (Unix/Dos)........20.00 Gifs Galore...................14.50
Technotools (Programmers).....13.00 Global Explorer (Delorme).....91.95
Top 2000 Shareware............23.50 Golden Immortal...............24.95
Up All Night............**....18.95 Gov't Giveaways-Entreprenuers.47.95
Winbox (CD).............**....25.95 Great Cities of World 1 or 2..24.95
Window Master.................19.45 Great Wonders of the World....42.95
Windoware.....................13.00 Greatest Books Collection.....44.95
Windows 1993............**....24.95 Grolier Ill. Encyl. v2 (STW)..34.95
Windows - CICA..........**....14.50 Grolier Ill. Encyl. v5 MPC....47.95
X11R5/GNU CDRom...............24.95 Grolier's Encyl. w/Ref Libr..229.95
                                    Guiness Disc of Records (92)..24.95
          Miscellaneous             Guy Spy.......................43.95
                                    Hacker Chronicles.............25.95
1001 Utilities................12.95 HamWare 1993..................27.95
20th Century Almanac..........59.95 Hospitality Index.............39.95
7th Guest.....................47.95 House of Games................22.95
Adventures of Willy Beamish...24.95 Inter. Business/Economc Atlas.24.45
Aesops Fables.................29.95 Island Designs................36.95
Aircraft Encyclopedia.........35.95 Jazz, Multimedia History......54.95
Amanda Stories................44.95 Jets & Props..................31.95
Amer.Bus.Fone Book #1..$17 #2.27.95 Jokes & Pranks................13.95
Anecdotes.....................26.95 Jones in the Fast Lane........19.00
Animals SD Zoo DOS-21.95..MPC-25.95 Just Grandma & Me.............41.95
Arthur's Teacher Trouble......27.95 Kathy Smith-Fat Burning Systm.54.95
Audobon Mammals or Birds......23.95 Key Clipmaster Pro............32.95
Barney Bear Goes to School....19.95 Key Fonts Pro.................32.95
Barney Bear Goes to Space.....21.95 Key Home Designer.............32.95
Barron's Book Notes...........39.95 Kids Zoo-Baby Animal Adv......36.95
BattleChess Enhanced..........31.95 King James Bible..............27.95
BattleChess MPC...............29.95 Kings Quest 5.................19.00
Beauty & the Beast (Win3).....28.95 Languages of the World........47.95
Bible Library (9 Bibles+).....28.50 Learning Adventure............13.00
Bibles & Religion.............13.00 Legend of Kyrandia............54.95
Brittanica Family Choice......24.95 Library of the Future 1.......47.95
Brittanica Select.............24.95 ***********************************
Business Assistant............13.00 * PCJ - 8/15/93 - A 1 Stop Dealer *
Cameron's Fine Art Catalog....49.95 * We meet all legit / noncloseout *
Carmen San Diego World Delux..27.95 * prices in this echo. No hidden  *
CD Cad v3.7 with manual.......31.95 * charges for credit cards. Call  *
CD Game Pack 1................18.95 *  our BBS for our adult title    *
Cd Game Pack 2................22.95 *  list and download adult.zip.   *
ChessMaster 3000 MPC..........24.95 ***********************************
Christmas Carol...............28.95     All Lines Operate 24 Hours
Cinnemania....................57.95    Orders/Inquiry - 615-339-0235
Classic Collection (4 Pak)....51.95    Orders Only    - 800-547-7817
Clip Art Galore..........**...27.50    Fax            - 615-479-1047
Clip Art Goliath..............13.00    BBS (14400)    - 615-479-1047

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 3369
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/15/93  8:43p
Subj: low low cdrom prices                    Refer: NONE
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      Miscellaneous (cont.)              Miscellaneous (cont.)
 
Lifestyles-R & F Cookbook.....37.95 Storybook Weaver..............39.95
Loom..........................19.95 StoryTime 1 or 2..............24.95
Lord of the Rings.............54.95 Street Atlas USA (Windows)....85.95
Lovely Ladies.................27.95 Super Munchers................39.95
MacMillan Dict for Children...29.95 Super/Number Bundle...........39.95
Magazine Rack.................22.95 Swimwear 1993.............**..28.95
Manhole.......................35.95 Swimwear & More (SVGA)........28.95
Mantis........................29.95 Talking Jungle or Classc.Tale.35.95
Mario is Missing/World Atlas..26.95 Talking Schoolhouse...........35.95
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...24.95 Tempra/Kodak Photo CD Softw...27.50
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typng v2.49.95 The Complete Twain............31.95
Mayo Clinic...................26.95 The Grammy Awards.............36.95
Mega Clip Art.................28.50 The Holy Bible................31.95
Mega Movie Guide..............42.95 The Pill Book.................36.95
Microsoft Bookshelf...........56.95 Time Almanac 1990.............16.95
Microsoft Music Instruments...57.95 Time Almanac 1991.............23.95
Microsoft Works...............39.95 TimeTable of Art/Entertainmnt.27.95
Midi Music Shop...............27.95 TimeTable of Business/Politic.27.95
Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.95 TimeTable of History/Science..21.95
Multimedia Tutor..............24.95 Too Many TypeFonts (Laser)....13.00
Monarch Notes.................53.95 ToolWorks Reference Library...19.95
Monkey Island (Secrets of)....24.95 Total Baseball Encyclopedia...26.95
Mother Earth..................27.95 Travel in Europe..............28.95
Mother of All Clipart (23000).22.95 True Crime Stories............36.95
My Advanced Label Designer....42.95 Trump Castle-5 casino games...28.95
My Backup.....................19.95 Ultima I - VI.................35.95
My Label Designer Bundle......42.95 Ultima Underworld 1 & 2.......59.95
National MM Parks Guide.......24.95 USA Today.....................36.95
Nat. Geographic MPC Mammals...24.95 USA Wars-Civil War............36.95
Nautilus Subscription Kit.....28.95 USA Wars-Korea................44.95
North American Fax Book.......38.95 USA Wars-Vietnam..............44.95
North American Indians........46.95 USA Wars-World War II.........44.95
Number Munchers...............28.95 U.S. Atlas MPC................26.95
Officers Bookcase.............39.95 U.S. Atlas / Automap..........28.95
Oregon Trail Dlx Vga..........35.95 U.S. Civics...................44.95
Oregon Trail..................39.95 U.S. History..................27.95
Our House (Family Circus).....42.95 U.S. Presidents...............35.95
Our Solar System(Photos,Data).13.00 U.S./World Atlas..............23.95
PC Gameroom...................26.95 VGA Spectrum #1...............14.95
PC Globe 5.0..................49.95 VGA Spectrum #2...............21.95
PC Sig Games..................23.95 Visions of Saturn.............24.95
Pentaminoes...................32.95 Wild Places or World View.....23.95
Peter Rabbit..................24.95 Wing Commander 2 Deluxe.......57.50
Peter & the Wolf (Win3).......26.45 Wing Commander 2/UUnderWrld...59.95
Pharmicist Guide to Drugs.....26.95 Wing Commander/Secret Missn...34.50
Photos to Remember............34.95 Wing Commander/Ultima 6.......24.95
Pinacotheca MPC...............24.95 Wizard........................19.95
Pixel Garden..................44.95 Women of Venus (Swimsuits)....27.95
Plant Doctor..................36.95 Word Munchers.................28.95
Play w/Lang-Englh/Frenc/Span..49.95 World Atlas MPC...............26.95
Precision Mapping.............83.95 World Atlas...................25.95
Prophone Business 1993........28.95 World Fact Book (CIA).........19.95
Prophone (3 CD Set)...........49.95 World of Flight or Trains.....33.95
Prophone (7 CD set)..........114.95 World Tour (CIA)..............23.95
Publique or Fresh Arte........35.95 World Traveler................13.00
Publish It v2.0 (w/Manual)....24.95 Wrath of the Demon............28.50
Publishers Dream Disc.........37.95
Publishers Paradise...........32.95   Drives/Sound/Software/Speakers
Putt Putt Joins Parade........49.95
P.C. Medic (Fix your PC)......29.50 CD Caddies (Sony Compatible)..4.95
QRZ Ham Radio.................14.95 Chinon 435 Int SCSI + CDs...349.95
Readers Library (2000 works)..28.95 Gravis Ultrasound 16bit.....139.95
Reference Library.............27.45 Koss Headphones..............14.95
Return to the Moon............34.95 Koss Hard Drivers Speakers...32.95
Roger Ebert Movie Companion...41.95 Koss Amplfd Spkrs w/Eqlizer..54.95
Sales Manager's Factomatic....36.95 Labtec Amplified Mini Spkrs..29.95
Schumachers Prague Cookbook...44.95 Labtec Amplifd Stereo Spkrs..44.95
Sci-Fi (Pics/Sound/Files).**..27.95 Mitsumi 350ms w/Int. Kit....195.00
Seals of US Gov't.............44.95 Pioneer 600A (Bare).........829.00
Secret Island Dr. Quandry.....39.95 Pioneer 600A with Kit.......929.00
Secret Weapons of LuftWaffe...25.95 Pioneer 604X (Bare)........1229.00
Secrets-Exec Success Stories..36.95 Pioneer 604X with Kit......1329.00
Seventh Bun...................47.95 Sysdos-Parallel port drive..299.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.95 Texel DM3024 Int SCSI.......389.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...54.95 Toshiba 3401 Int SCSI.......455.00
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...54.95 Windows 3.1 (3-1/2" Floppy)..39.95
Sherlock or Shakespeare.......16.95 Windows 3.1 (5-1/4" Floppy)..37.95
Sights & Sounds...............24.95 Znix Cordless Mouse/Win 3.1..59.95
Snap Dragon...................39.95 Znix Serial Super Mouse......24.95
Snapdragon....................39.95
So Much Screenware (Gifs).**..27.95 ***********************************
Softw Jukebox-All Amer Sports.42.95 * PCJ - 8/15/93 - A 1 Stop Dealer *
Soundblaster MOD Files........24.95 * We meet all legit / noncloseout *
Sound Effects Library.........19.95 * prices in this echo. No hidden  *
Sound Works (Software)........18.95 * charges for credit cards. Call  *
SoundWav......................24.95 *  our BBS for our adult title    *
Space Adventure...............32.95 *  list and download adult.zip.   *
Space Quest IV................23.95 ***********************************
SpaceQuest4/Kings Quest.......34.95
Spirit of Excalibur...........38.45    All Lines Operate 24 Hours
Sporting News-Pro Football....36.95   Orders/Inquiry - 615-339-0235
Sports Best on CDRom..........27.95   Orders Only    - 800-547-7817
Star Child....................39.95   Fax            - 615-479-1047
Stellar 7.....................19.95   BBS (14400)    - 615-479-1047

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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 3370
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/15/93 11:26p
Subj: CD-ROMs                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Y'all,
         I hope the kind folks in here will excuse me for using bandwidth for
this, but Mike doesn't seem to be in the Fidonet nodelist.

Mike,
     I am interested in buying the latest versions of GREAT CD-Roms.  I have a
particular interest in GR8 shareware collections with particular reference to
subscription CDs such as Walnut Creek do with Simtel-20, CICA-Windows and the
like.  Any info you have may net you a regular customer, same goes for anyone
else reading this, Good CD-Roms are in short supply in Finland <grin>.

Info please to:

               T:mi Softronic

               PL 97

               02101 Espoo

               Finland.

Thanks in advance.


                                                   Cheers,

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3371
  To: MING CHAN                                Date: 08/14/93  9:35p
Subj: NIGHTOWL                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> MC>PC-Pix I 646MB,5500+ Gifs,200+ Movies Discription,Nightlog
-> MC>Images,Gabby's Lounge,Garlique Graphics,Twilight Zone,
-> MC>Prizm,Farmer Daughter & Suger Magnolia 05/92
Hi Ming!

   We don't stock it, but we can get it for you if you wish.... it
should be around $45-50 Cdn.  Give me a call at 306-789-4654 if you're
interested.

   Vince
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From: JIM REED                               Number: 3372
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/15/93  7:15p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CK> WT> Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't
CK> WT> seem to work with QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and
CK> WT> should be able to be moved around by QEMM.  Perplexed
CK> WT> beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.  Any ideas would
CK> WT> help.

Hi WES;
        Here's my config which works perfectly for me and this is
        exactly as OPTIMIZE set it up.  The only caveat is that you must
        have the latest drivers.

DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS R:1 RAM ST:M
buffers=50
FILES=10
DOS=HIGH,UMB
LASTDRIVE=Z
FCBS=4,0
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 C:\DEV\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:1
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\RAMDRIVE.SYS 1024 /e
SHELL=C:\4DOS.COM

                        GLuck
                                        /JIM/

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From: SHANE HEDRICK                          Number: 3373
  To: BILL HENDERSON                           Date: 08/15/93  8:54p
Subj: Re: Microsoft Office                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

}}}}}} On 08-13-93  15:48 Bill said to Shane {{{{{{
 BH> Shane, I have 7th guest and CD Game Pack II that I'd trade.How about
 

      What is CD Game Pack II?  I would like 7th Guest, but 
      I don't know about the other.





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From: SHANE HEDRICK                          Number: 3374
  To: THOM JENNINGS                            Date: 08/15/93 10:15p
Subj: Re: Microsoft Office                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

}}}}}} On 08-14-93  21:41 Thom said to Shane {{{{{{
 *SH> Anyone interested in a copy of Microsoft Office on CD?  Would like to t*
 *SH> for                                                                    *
 *SH> Kings Quest 6 or 7th Guest + a couple of shareware CD's.  Or make an of*
 TJ> ***********************************************************************
 TJ> ****** 
 TJ> I don't have either you are looking for but can buy 7th Guest and
 TJ> complete a deal.  Is the sale of your CD complete with license?  Call

          Thom,
               I have mailed in the registration, however
               I do have the license card for win\office 3.0
               CDROM and also the license card for Microsoft
               Mail v. 3.0.  These are transferable.  I will
               sell for $120 or best offer.
                
                                           Shane


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From: CAM LIRONDELLE                         Number: 3375
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 08/15/93  1:00a
Subj: Re: CANADIAN CD-ROM SOURCE              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

can you send me a catalog
Cam Lirondelle
7119-87 ave
edmonton ab
t6b-0l6
thx


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From: DANIEL HAGAN                           Number: 3376
  To: STEVE GERWECK                            Date: 08/14/93  1:01p
Subj: SOME NEW ADULT CD'S!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  MS> Busty Babes 3.0...............33.00

 > You released a message on 8/5 that you were selling BB 3 for $25.
 > What
 > happened???

It's a selling technique used in this echo.  Stick non-knowing users for full
price and those that are smart enough to shop around can have their lowest
quoted estimate matched.

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From: STEPHEN THOMPSON                       Number: 3377
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/15/93  7:48p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Terry!

14 Aug 93, Terry Blount writes to Joey Ratzsch:

 TB> Sorry they are gone.  If you want to send me your phone number I'll call
 TB> you if I get any more.

Oh well... I guess I'm too late also!

I would like to get on your waiting list.  I've never such a price and it
sounds like the perfect way to put CD ROM on my BBS.  My name is Stephen
Thompson at 1:170/709 my home telephone is (918)252-3173.

Thanks, Stephen

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3378
  To: HARRY WHEAT                              Date: 08/15/93  1:45a
Subj: Re: 6 disk cd-rom changer               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I am looking for a BBS program that will run a 6 disk Cd-rom
>>    changer on a BBS. I have looked all over and can't find
>>    anything. If anyone knows of anything please leave me a
>>    message.    Thank's

Harry, any BBS will support a 6-disk changer, unless your running
a multi-node system. Then you'd need to find a door program that will
handle your users as they access the the unit.

If you need further help, give us a call at 216-225-3263 and we'll be
happy to assist you further as we sell and operate a system with 2
6 disk changers and more.....

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3379
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/16/93 12:11a
Subj: Re: Disk                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Hmmmmm....I think I may be a wealthy man and don't know it. (:>

You may very well be sir !!

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3380
  To: STEVE GERWECK                            Date: 08/16/93 12:57a
Subj: Re: BB                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=>> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Bob Jackson <=-

>>    Hi Boris -

>>    What are your prices on the three versions of Busty Babes?

>>    Thanks..

Well Steve, BB v1 vol1.0 is no longer available from us as we have sold
it to a buyer for $425.00. As for BB v1 vol2 it's priced at $45. and
BB v1 ver3.0 is $25.

Hope this helps and if we can be of any further help, please feel free to
give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be glad to help you
further.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3381
  To: JAMES REYLE                              Date: 08/16/93 12:57a
Subj: Re: MAPS CDROM Which one?               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    To all:
>>     Looking for a good USA Map where I can get very detailed on
>>     street level. I was looking at these two, and I wanted to
>>     know what you guys thought about these programs.
>>                 1. Precision Mapping

Our current price is $79.00

>>                 2. Street Atlas USA

Our current price is $75.00

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to
assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3382
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 08/16/93 12:57a
Subj: Re: Prices                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I need price on Night Owl Bussines & PC-Sig12..
>>    Thanks..


Both priced at $25. each....

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to
assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3383
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/16/93 12:57a
Subj: NEW BUSTY BABES                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

)))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((

NOW IN STOCK  BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
bustiest babes in North America including  Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.

                      PRICE - $25.00

To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((



Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3384
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/16/93 12:57a
Subj: RED HOT CD'S                            Refer: NONE
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$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$
 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX   PRICE - $15.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
   COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - -  24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO

Boris Osadciw

... Every Silver lining has a clone around it.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3385
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/16/93 12:57a
Subj: Mix or Match                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Canadian Shareware      Between Heaven & Hell 2
Sophistcated Sante Fe     IBM Sampler             TaxPrep '93'
Sherlock Holmes (TxT)     Game Arena              Shareware Overload
PC Game Room              PC-SIG 8                PC-SIG Games
LaserTax On CD            Phoenix # 3             Jokes&Pranks
Learning Adventure        Business Assistant      World Travler
Sound Sensation           DeathStar Arcade        Colossal CookBook
ClipArt Goliath           Technotools             Our Solar System
Bible & Religion          Windoware               Dictionaries & Languages
Original Shareware        Selectware

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
So-Much-Shareware         Magnum Games/Windows    Shareware Studio #2
Shareware Tiger           Jem Disc w/floppy       PC-SIG Home/Business
QRZ Ham Radio

***********************************************************************

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3386
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/16/93 12:57a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Oh never mind!
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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 3387
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/14/93  6:22a
Subj: CD ROM DISCS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > .
 > CB>Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia             14.00
 > .
 > CB>ProPhone 1993                                  33.00


 > I am looking forward to receiving these disks.  Please send as
 > soon as
 > possible.  From what I have seen, there have been a lot of
 > problems with
 > people that have been putting ads like yours in the echo.  I
 > hope we
 > don't have any...  By the way, tried calling the online mall,
 > all I got
 > was a ring through.

Seems that either the mailer or my editing (probably the latter) left off a
column. They are $114.00 and $133.00 not $14.00 and $33.00. If you still want
them, let me know.

Chris

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 3388
  To: MICHAEL MULCAHY                          Date: 08/14/93  6:30a
Subj: CD ROM Discs                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Which of these are compatable with an APPLE CD300 CDROM
 > hardware?..m2

Jets and Props
Battle Chess Enhanced
Sherlock Holmes, Consulting Detective
Family Doctor
Monarch Notes
Shakespeare
Wild Places
World View
Audobon's Birds
Money, Money, Money!
Total Baseball
Otherware I (Shareware)

All are compatable with the MAC and the Otherware I is a combination of MAC &
AMIGA shareware.

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From: TED KIDD                               Number: 3389
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/14/93  8:52p
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

IA> Hi,
IA> Also within two weeks we are publishing an Amiga disk in ISO-9660 
IA> format for BBS Systems. TTYL

Are you gonna post something in the echo about it when it gets released?  I
will be interested in any info you can give before its release.... thanks
BTW, are you (or anyone) doing the same for a Macintosh disc?  I have the BMUG
PD-Rom and the otherware discs, but the PD-Rom can only be accessed on a
macintosh (to be used effectively) and the otherware disc is getting too old.
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From: HERB SCHERKER                          Number: 3390
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/15/93  2:45p
Subj: Disks                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Infinite Space Online.......Home Of Software Farm...The Largest cd-rom Dealer
in the South.....Check out their great prices in Our 24 Hour Shopping Mall..
407-856-0021 1200-2400
407-856-2866 9600-14400

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From: ED KELLERMANN                          Number: 3391
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/15/93 11:55a
Subj: Re: CD-Rom List                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send me a copy of your CD ROM catalog.

    E.S. Kellermann
    PO Box 795
    Eaton Park, Fl  33840-0795

Thanks

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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 3392
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 08/16/93  6:58a
Subj: PRECISION MAPPING                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>  I have a copy of Precision Mapping that I don't need, (already have the
MS>disc), that I will be willing to part with. This is the complete map of the
MS>USA that allows you to zoom all the way down to the street you are looking
MS>for. Search by area code, city name, street name, and zip code. The disc cos
MS>$88.00 to $120 new depending on your source. I will consider all trade offer
MS>or cash.
MS>Thanks,

I'll give you $50 for it.


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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 3393
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 08/16/93  6:58a
Subj: PROPHONE CD'S                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS>1993 Prophone 7 cd set- includes residential and business listings for the
CS>entire nation.
CS>$85 or make me an offer.
CS>* SPITFIRE v3.3
CS>--- FreeMail 1.07b
CS> * Origin: The Outer-Limits (618) 439-9629 * HST/V32 * (1:2290/70)

I'll give you $70 for it.  How do I get a hold of you?

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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 3394
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/16/93  6:58a
Subj: DISK                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>No problem, Jim...the label film on the disc says, "Graphic Software"--Deale
LN>now have bids for $350.00 per each 1.0 disc--
LN>Versions 2.0 and 3.0 do not have these large font words on the disc film--If
LN>you have one of these, hold onto it--

Hey Lee, I have vol 1 with the "Graphic Software" imprint on the disk.
If any of your dealer buddys are interested I'll let mine go for $250.

Seriously!

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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 3395
  To: RON THOMPSON                             Date: 08/16/93  6:58a
Subj: GRANDMA AND ME                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RT>  Are you talking about a new or used copy, Al? I am just getting into
RT>CdRom, so I don't have much in the way of disks yet. I will keep you in
RT>mind. Please be patient - it could be another three or four weeks before
RT>the grant money arrives.


It's a new copy still shrinkwrapped.  Leave me a message when you get
your grant money.  I may want to get rid of it even worse!

Al

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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 3396
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/16/93  6:58a
Subj: 2 ROMS FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a couple of CD's that I am willing to trade or sell.

                      U.S. History on CD-Rom
                      Terrorist Group Profiles on CD-ROM
                      Microsoft Bookshelf (CD-ROM)


Give me an offer or tell me what you have to trade.


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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 3397
  To: EDWARD CROUSER                           Date: 08/13/93 10:51p
Subj: Os/2 cdrom drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EC>         I'm looking to buy a OS/2 2.1 compatible CDROM drive. It doe
EC>  matter whether it's internal or external, buy I'd really prefer a c
EC>  drive. Or at least one that is automatic. The one I use right now i
EC>  horrible for switching CDs! Of course, I'd like it to be a bit
EC>  fast <= 350ms. Please, let me know if anyone has one for sale. If y
EC>  can get me a good price, I'll buy it in a second!

 MITSUMICDD CDD - Mitsumi CD-ROM drive                 188.00
 CDR-38     CDD - NEC MultiSpin 38 portable            354.00
 CDR-74     CDD - NEC MultiSpin 74 external            552.00
 CDR-84     CDD - NEC MultiSpin 84 internal            459.00
 532        CDD - Panasonic 290ms, SCSI-2              362.00
 562        CDD - Panasonic 320ms, double speed        287.00
 522        CDD - Panasonic 380ms/AT bus               211.00
 PHILIPSINT CDD - Philips internal CD-ROM drive        194.00
 CDDDRM600A CDD - Pioneer DRM-600A 6-disk changer      851.00
 CDDDRM604X CDD - Pioneer DRM-604X 6-disk changer     1257.00
 CDU/31A02  CDD - Sony 150KB/sec, MPC, Multi-session   151.00
 DM3024     CDD - Texel DM3024 internal CD-ROM drive   373.00
 DM5024     CDD - Texel DM5024 CD-ROM drive ext.       467.00
 CDDXM3401B CDD - Toshiba XM3401B internal drive       443.00

That's all of 'em, Edward.........
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 3398
  To: MARK SMITH                               Date: 08/14/93 10:54a
Subj: Aussie needs help...                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS> G'day Everybody!

MS> How are you all..??? The land of the CD ROM is very new to me, In fa
MS> so new
MS> I haven't even purchased one yet. There seem to be a lot of experts
MS> there  guys. Perhaps you can give me some ideas on what to look out
MS> for...??? What  sort of to look for when buying a CD player...???

Depends on what you want, Mark......

 MITSUMICDD CDD - Mitsumi CD-ROM drive                 188.00
 CDR-84     CDD - NEC MultiSpin 84 internal            459.00
 CDU/31A02  CDD - Sony 150KB/sec, MPC, Multi-session   151.00
 DM3024     CDD - Texel DM3024 internal CD-ROM drive   373.00
 CDDXM3401B CDD - Toshiba XM3401B internal drive       443.00

MS> And of course the best places to buy CD's long distance..<grin> Anyo
MS> want to  start a branch in Australia...???<grin>

Ok, I'm willing.....

 How to contact me; Internet - patrick.rosenheim@bcs.info.bus.org, or
 Phone: (508) 750-6600, or FAX: (508) 777-3404, or simply reply here!


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3399
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 08/14/93  2:20p
Subj: Precision Mapping                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS> I have a copy of Precision Mapping that I don't need, (already have the 
  >disc), that I will be willing to part with. 
 
I am interested in a copy for myself.  I sell them but would be willing 
to make a trade for something else.  How about 2 shareware CD's?  Well, 
let me know what you are interested and we can make a deal. :) 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3400
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 08/14/93  2:24p
Subj: Prophone cd's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS>1993 Prophone 7 cd set- includes residential and business listings for the 
  >entire nation. 
  >$85 or make me an offer. 
 
I'll offer $70 plus postage ($2.90 Priority Mail). 
(205) 793-4481 
 
                                                Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3401
  To: PRODUCERS                                Date: 08/14/93  2:34p
Subj: Christian Shareware                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am a CD-Rom retailer (Computer Works), and I have been approached MANY 
times recently by sysops who run Christian BBSes.  They are looking for 
a Christian shareware CD-Rom that is BBS ready.  With all the other 
special interest topics, I think we could do something for them as well. 
What do you think? 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: JACK HUDDLE                            Number: 3402
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/16/93 12:13p
Subj: SBpro for sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I recently purchased a Labtec CD-Rom upgrade kit and I find I have a
brand new Sound Blaster Pro  forsale inthe box unused forsale. I will
let it go for 100.00 plus $5.00 shipping first class (US only) plus will
throw in Lemmings at no additional charge with unused manual and output
cable that came with the SBPRO....

Also have a like new DAK(Sony CDU6201) External CD-ROM like new with
controler card and ribbon cable and installation program Shipped first
class (US Only) for $310.00. Specs are  150K byte Data transfer Rate
540Mbytes of digital data/half height external in case/uses caddies/
can dasey chain 4 togeather off of controler card/audio play-back via
phone jack on front panel. If interested my number is (614) 837-0303
orleave msg here.......Tks Jack

 * SLMR 2.0 #1626 * I could have had a V8, But got a GOLDWING instead!!


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3403
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/15/93  4:56p
Subj: BB3 Review                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I scanned in the review from the hardcopy I'd saved. There may be a few
"word glitches" but I think it's readable. I package this as three
messages to you.
========================================================================
First, many thanks to "Lady Lee" (Noga) of Florida Lion's Den, Inc.
(FLD) for sending me a copy of "Busty Babes Volume #1 Release 3.0" (BB3)
for review.

Secondly, this review will follow the format, style, and content
paradigms that were used in my reviews of "Digital Dreams" (Ero Tek) and
Pork Ware 1" inasmuch as there will be three parts: Statistics,
Operations, and Visual.  I will use the same criteria as I outlined in my
previous descriptions of those parts.

Thirdly, having learned that FidoNet can tolerate reasonably long posts,
I'll use only three messages for this review, one for each of the parts
named above.

Finally, remember, WHAT FOLLOWS IS ONE PERSON'S OPINION.  While I try
very hard to be as objective as possible in writing these reviews,
(objectivity is part of what I do to satisfy Maslow), individual
preferences, both mine and yours, will always introduce some level of
subjectivity, particularly in the operations and visual parts.  All set?
Here we go.....

Statistics
==========

This section focuses on numerical data relative to the physical contents
of the CD.

Let me begin by stating that measuring the exact number of files on a CD
isn't as simple as it may sound, nor all that important.  Most CDs these
days have thousands of files on them, particularly image CDs and shareware
CDs.  While one might assume that a simple DIR would suffice to determine
the number of files on a CD, it won't.  First, DIR will count the "." and
".." subdirectory "files" (note: these have been taken into account in the
figures below).  Secondly, even when using DIR with a "qualifier" like
*.GIF, a directory may show files that aren't actually there, or are corrup-
ted in some way (BB3 has a few of these, too) that makes them useless and
therefore might as well not be there.  Finally, what my CD-ROM drive can
read, yours may not, and vice-versa.  Accordingly, when I give various
counts and sizes and you subsequently find that your stats don't EXACTLY
agree with mine, don't take it too hard.

BB3 disclosed a count of 2663 GIF files (not counting the catalog files -
more on those later) totaling 499 Mb.  That yields an average byte size of
187 Kb per GIF which is consistent with the observation that most of the GlFs
are either 800x600 or 640x480 in resolution and most occupy relatively large
portions of the screen when displayed normally.  All told, the CD disclosed
3278 files occupying 528 Mb.  The difference of 615 files is accounted for by
the 200 catalog GIF files and by the utilities and other programs included on
the CD.

Operations to follow...

... Alas! The poor Tagline. I knew it well.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3404
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/15/93  4:57p
Subj: BB3 Review 2 of 3                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Operations
==========

This part of the review focuses on those aspects of the CD that effect
convenience and usability.  It is, therefore, somewhat more subjective
than the statistical part.

I'm not a sysop so I'm not too interested, and certainly not
knowledgeable in the "BBS Ready" aspects of CDs.  However, knowing that
any of you are sysops, I'm including what I found about those
characteristics vis-a-vis BB3.  Perhaps a more qualified person can
correct or amplify my findings later on.

There are indeed FILES.BBS files in each of the sub-directories.
Moreover, there are (untested by me) utilities to convert them to any of
several BBS formats including: PCBoard, WildCat, Tag, Maximus/Opus,
Telegard, SpitFire, Renegade, and QBBS.  Random sampling of the FILES.BBS
revealed that their contents contained appropriate descriptions, and by
and large correct spellings and grammar, etc.  There is also an
ALLFILES.LST and utilities to convert/generate others for several BBS
systems.

Additional utilities include late versions of both CSHOW and VPIC as well
as some nice-to-haves like a GlF-to-EXE converter (makes a GIF into a
self-displaying .EXE file); programs to print GlFs on various types of
printers; etc.  All in all, I can't imagine that anyone would really NEED
any more GIF support than is included on the CD, though preference may
dictate other choices.

BB3's directory organization differs substantially from that in BB1 (but
again, probably less so than with BB2's).  There some are 27-odd
sub-directories, 19 of which are given over to GIF imaqes (not counting
the catalog GIFs).  Given what I can recall from BB2, and several hour's
of experience with BB1  =(:>  I'd iay that BB3's structure is generally
an improvement, save one case.  By improvement I mean that CD's contents
are better organized from the standpoint that the names of the
sub-directories give better clues to their contents.  The exception is
the "FETISH" directory which contains 99% S&M or B&D type images.  On
BB1, these images were more appropriately in the "SM,BD" directory. The word
Fetish is too broad a term to be limited to S&M and B&D.  I suspect there
were "hidden agenda" reasons behind the re-naming.

The "gem" of BB3 is her user interface (to use a little personification).
While the ever-reliable text-based CDMENU interface is also included, FLD
has also provided a GUI-like interface via a program appropriately called
"SHOWOFF" (SO).  Now as anyone who has tried more than one GIF viewer
knows, no one program is going to be all things to all people.  However,
some come a lot closer than others.  SO is in this category.

To begin, installation is simple and goof-proof.  FLD included some SO
"quick start" instructions with BB3 that were error free.  Basically,
you're asked a few simple questions (like what's the letter designation
of your CD-ROM drive).  From there, some supportinq files and programs
are copied to your HDD and you're returned to DOS.  A simple "SOCD" (or
S0CD16 if you're not SVGA) and, as the Enqlish say: "Bob's your uncle!"
meaning "That's that!"  You're up and running and ready to look at the
lovely ladies of BB3.  After a startup screen, you can pick and choose
among directories, do point-and-click selection from a "catalog" of
reduced-size images (too large to be described as "thumbnail"), and go on
to zoom in, zoom out, pan in all directions, etc.  While it would take
far too much space to do and inside-out reuiew of SO here, I will say
this much:  From a viewers standpoint, SO is, HANDS DOWN, the slickest
"no-brainer" user interface to an image CD to come down the pike to date.

For all sorts of reasons, I tried hard not to like SO or at least not let
it beguile me.  I had to look pretty hard to find any chinks in its
armor.  I found a few, but they were small.  First, the reduced-size
images are quite grainy due to (I assume) little or no antialiasing
during their creation.  This is annoying but not debilitating because as
the mouse pointer passes over each reduced-size image, the appropriate
description from FILES.BBS is displayed at the bottom of the screen.  If
you can't make out what's in the picture (a rare occurrence), this
description will help.  Secondly, the "hide/restore" feature (handy if
nwelcome kibitzers happen by) only works from the main K/B "-" key; the
keypad "-" key (if you have one) won't work.  Thirdly, SO scribbles a lot
on the HDD while you're viewing images.  A slow drive will likely
adversely affect performance unless a "smart" HDD cache with queued
writes is used.   Perhaps worst, the included version of SO seemed to be
locked in 640x480 resolution.  Higher resolution images had to be manually
zoomed in on to their full size on the screen.  I couldn't figure out how to
tell SO that my video setup was capable of a lot more.

I also couldn't find out how to run a slideshow although browsing through
the documentation seemed to indicate that such a feature exists.  Also,
there was no indication how reduced-size images are created so I can't say
how hard it would be to set up your own catalogs from other GIF collections.
Presumably, if one orders the standalone version of SO (order blank included),
these things would become clear.

Bottom line for SO:  Slick, easy, and FUN to use for viewing BB3 images.
There are a number of files in SO's HDD directory for configuration,
runtime "notes", etc. hinting at some fairly sophisticated capabilities
which aren't evident in the included version.  How difficult such
capabilities might be to set up and use are beyond the scope of this
review.

Bottom line for BB3 operations:  Pure joy.  Fast, intuitive, and
seemingly bulletproof.  Novices will especially like its convenience and
"old pros" will appreciate the effort the producers put into it.  If you
don't have an adult CD and want one, BB3 would be a "'can"t lose"' choice.
If you've already seen several or would like to see just how far GIF
viewer technology has gone, BB3 and SO can provide you with an interesting
excursion into "Gee whiz" land.

Visual to follow.

... Docs? Why would I want to look at the Docs. Nurses are better :)
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3405
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/15/93  4:58p
Subj: BB3 Review 3 of 3                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Visual
======

This part of the review focuses on the visual merits of the CD's imagery
as judged by this reviewer.  Accordingly, it is more subjective than
either of the two preceding parts. and should be taken as such.

Like its forebearers, BB3 is a full-blown X-rated CD.  Some of its images
are as raw as raw legally gets.  It's worth noting that a large number of
the scans are R-rated in that, outside of exhibitionism, no sexual
activity is depicted at all.  This is primarily true of the "BUSTYn"
directories (O <= n <= 6).

Comparing BB3 GIF files names against my those in my data base taken from
BB1 (Rel. I not Rel. 2), I found 1731 duplicate names.  Had I been able
to run the comparison against BB2, doubtless a larger number would have
been forthcoming.  Run against the whole data base, an additional 398
duplicate names were found.  These numbers indicate that BB3 is indeed
just as her producer advertised: essentially a re-make of BB2 to correct
past "sins"', at least as far as credits for the GIF files are concerned.

Within BB3 itself, I found 10 GIF files that were duplicated.  That is,
there are 10 pairs of files where each member of a pair contains exactly
the same image.  One of the pairs even shares the same name: "L_H0NEY5.GIF"
which appears in two different directories.  The other nine pairs have
different names and appear in the same or different directories as their
"image mates".  There may be other pairs, but I didn"t detect them with
my computer-aided processes.

Like it predecessors, BB3's images are by and large quite good. Certainly
they are on a par with contemporary releases.  Most images are either
640x480 or 800x600 in resolution.  The scans are generally sharp and
professional looking in appearance.  If you already have one or two of the
more popular adult image CDs, (e.g. Ecstasy, FAO, Seedy ROM, etc.) you'll
feel right at home with the quality of BB3's pictures.

As previously mentioned, BB3's directory structure is an improvement over
BB1 and BB2, IMHO.  In addition, there are some scans that aren't in
either of the predecessor volumes - not enough to warrant purchase solely
based on that fact, but nice lagniappe if you're going to buy the disk
anyway.  Finally, there's a truly new directory in that all of its images
(some 115 of them) are definitely not in either BB1 or BB2.  That is the
"MICHELLA"' directory and it's contents are exclusively scans of a lady by
that name.  These scans are soft and generally somewhat dark.  They're
pleasant enough; mostly "R to hard R'" and frequently with a lady friend
only identified as "L" in tender-looking poses.  If I had to chose a single
word, on the whole (no pun intended) I'd call the "MICHELLA" pics "artistic".

In sum, if you're lookinq for an adult CD with a variety of subject
matter, BB3 would be a good choice.  If you're a true collector, you'll
probably want BB3 to complete the set; I'm sure FLD's not planning a Rel.
4.0 - there'd be no point to it.  Release 1.0 is already a collector's
item;  Release 2.0 doesn't surrender anything meaningful to Release 3.0
in image content; Release 3.0's raison d'etre, outside of some mea culpa
repair work, is SO.  There's just no more mileage in this collection.

So, Lee, what'cha got up your sleeves for us next?  Whatever it is, make
sure SO hangs in there!
=======================================================================
There you are, Kind Lady. When can we expect the next FLD production??


... 24 hours in a day...24 beers in a case...coincidence?
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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 3406
  To: CURT LARSON                              Date: 08/16/93  1:23p
Subj: Re: SCSI Cables                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I am looking to purchase 2 external, 50 pin SCSI cables (or one with
>multiple plugs).  I need a female on either end.  Please call
>(816)229-9530 or leave a message here.  Thanks.

I wish you had let me know, I can get the cables locally and shipped them
with the drives.

Do you need centronics 50 --> centronics 50?
or
Do you need DB25 --> Centronics 50?

give me a call. 205-837-5053

They are pretty reasonably price here locally and how much depends on
length needed.


*FSED91j*
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From: JOHN TRIMBACK                          Number: 3407
  To: BILL ALEXANDER                           Date: 08/16/93 12:57a
Subj: Re: CDROM Drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  *In a message dated 14 Aug 93   5:09:04 Bill Alexander writes:

> John, 
> How much for 2  4x9 SIMMs? 
>  
> Thanks 
> Bill 
> --- CNet XFIDO 2.63
>  * Origin: House Atreides (1:124/6110) 

i will let 2 - 4 megs simms go for $175.00...let me know
J. Trimback
1845 E. Albert ST
Phila, Pa 19125

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From: KEN TULLY                              Number: 3408
  To: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529               Date: 08/16/93  7:29a
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROMS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SF@9> Hiya, Ken!
 SF@9> On Aug 08, Ken Tully spake thusly to Keith Sheehan:

 KT> will be BBS ready for both PCBoard, and Files.bbs 
 SF@9> i'm a sysop and i would MUCH rather wait for a disk 
 SF@9> that will "self-install" than do it myself!  
 SF@9> <shudder>  simtel is still sitting here uninstalled 
 SF@9> cuz i have not the time to do it...

Thank you for the input Sandeleh.  Your opinion is appreciated, and noted.  As
much as I'd like to release the disk now, I agree with you and will try to put
it off until the front end is ready.


                                        Ken...

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From: BRIAN DHATT                            Number: 3409
  To: LESLIE THOMAS                            Date: 08/16/93 10:36a
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Saturday August 14 1993 07:42, Leslie Thomas wrote to Al James:

 LT> As I said, I am interested in a model that would be controllable through
 LT> the port on the SB Pro...I need an internal model.  Thank you for the
 LT> repsone though.

I'm not a dealer, but I know MPS Multimedia has two models that work with the
SBPro.  One is the Panasonic 522, with 390 ms, 150kb/s for $179.  The other is
the 562 whick has 340 ms, 300 kb/s for $269.  Prices probably went down since
this old magazine printing, so give them a call at 800-533-4MPS.  You might
want to pick up a Computer Shopper magazine and look up their ad in the
advertisers index.  It has a bunch of package deals and special deals on CDs.

Hope this helps...

Brian

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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 3410
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 08/15/93  1:55p
Subj: Re: Trade adult CD for Adult            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RB>  hello i have  xxx extreme if your still interested.
 RB>              leave me mail
 RB>                      ROBERT A BIR

  Hello Robert.  I have Hot Pix Volume #5.  Would consider an
  even trade.  We pick up our own shipping.  If interested
  send you CD, I will do the same when I get your address.
      My address:
          Max Green
          399 Westmeade Dr.
          Gretna, LA. 70056

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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3411
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 08/16/93  9:33a
Subj: FREE CD-ROM                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Vince!

Saturday August 14 1993 01:11, Vince Sorensen wrote to Mark Smith:

 VS> We're currently negotiating with a number of folks in Australia, but
 VS> nothing has been settled yet... get me your address or FAX number, and
 VS> I'd be glad to send you some info. Our FAX number here is 306-789-8690
 VS> and our VOICE number is 306-789-4654.

Okay, Thanks for getting back to me. My FAX Number is 61-46-471-499, VOICE
number at work is 61-46-471-625. Postal address is:

                     P.O. Box 242
                     Campbelltown
                     NSW 2560
                     Australia....

We have a location 45 minutes drive from the heart of Sydney, and we are a
major distributor for a number of BBS networks. both factors combined we
believe we are assured of good turnover.

Regs,

Mark Smith

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From: CHRIS WISE                             Number: 3412
  To: MICHAEL SHUBER                           Date: 08/15/93  3:26p
Subj: 7th guest & sbpro                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          Michael Shuber wrote
----------------------------------------
>>I am interested in some update or patch that is supposed to be out for
>>the Sound Blaster Pro and The 7th Guest.  Does anyone know anything
>>about this???
---------------------------------------- Yep, there is one out there.  You can
get it by calling the bulletin board listed below.  I have already uploaded it
there and it helped me out with two problems.  One of them being the fatal
"SOUND BUFFER OVERFLOW".  I am clicking away on it now...

Lee Christopher Wise
===
 * TLX v3.00 * Where is the tagline supposed to go???


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 3413
  To: JAMES REYLE                              Date: 08/15/93  4:08p
Subj: MAPS CDROM Which one?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello James!

Friday August 13 1993, James Reyle writes to All:

 JR>  Looking for a good USA Map where I can get very detailed on street
 JR>  level. I was looking at these two, and I wanted to know what you
 JR>  guys thought about these programs.
 JR>              1. Precision Mapping
 JR>              2. Street Atlas

I sell both, but personally recommend Precision Mapping.


... First Hillary, then Jennifer... now US!

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3414
  To: JEREMY NINO                              Date: 08/16/93  6:16p
Subj:  Busty Babes                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JN> Alright!  Gittem BUB!!!                                           
                                                                       
  
FYI: "Lee" is a Lady. 
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From: TERRY GREENMAN                         Number: 3415
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/07/93  8:27p
Subj: TRADE?                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi,

I have a CD disk that is XTRA to me..and would like to trade for just about
anything. (I don't have MUCH) so this is what I have to trade.

The WIZ-PAK 6-pak CD-ROM disk, over 170 programs, VGA pain prog animations,
arcade and educational and much, much, more....

I have one to trade for just about anything.
Let's talk.

... This tagline is SHAREWARE!  To register, send me $10
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From: SEAN CREIGH                            Number: 3416
  To: RON COLEMAN                              Date: 08/15/93  4:05p
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I just got Ecstacy Hot Pics the other day. It has over 2600 gifs, over 330
animations, over 470 stories plus all the viewers and other stuff. It was only
$29 and I got it from Freedom software or something like that. It is in
Columbus, IN and they have an ad in computer magazines. Hope this helps.
                                    Sean Creigh

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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 3417
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 08/16/93 12:09p
Subj: RE: SegaCD's                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->
-> >Is that cd+g any good? My cdtv player can play that,,,what exact art
-> >are on it and what price do you want for it?
-> It's a cool disk,unfortunately I can't play it since I got rid of my
-> SegaCD.It has 2 songs by Jimi Hendrix,2 by Information Society,2 by F
-> Mac,2 by Little Feat,2 by Chris Isaak.It's in a double case with a re
-> CD,so they would have to go together.You can have both for $10+S&H.
-> >btw,
-> >where did you buy that?
-> They came with my SegaCD.
->
-> If interested,you can send a M/O to:  Diana Kirksey
->                                       1624 Hwy.99 Sp79
->                                       Manteca,CA.  95336
->
-> You can reach me at my BBS:   Deanna's StarBBS  (209) 239-0883 or Voi
-> (209)239-1962
->
->
->                                       Diana
->
->
-> --- FX-BBS V3.41á[386]r
->  * Origin: -=BerthaBoard=- Manteca, Ca. (209) 823-0093/239-9853 (1:20
->
I am sending out $12.90 tomorrow.  YOu could send those cd's priority
mail pack from the post office for $2.90.  If you have some sort of
brochure from the segacd about more cd+g's then, let me know

My number is (305)782-2631


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 3418
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/16/93 12:10p
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> VS>Vito A Servideo
-> VS>2741 ne 24 street
-> VS>LIghthouse Point, FL  33064
->
-> VS>p.s.
-> VS>do you have any cd+g titiles?
->
->   Hey, Vito.  We'll try to get one to you as soon as we can.  Thanks
->  for replying.
->                                                Mark
->
-> --- FreeMail 1.08b
->  * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)
->

Please let me know as sson as you get some cd+g's.  My number is
(305)782-2631


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 3419
  To: TROY JOHNSON                             Date: 08/16/93  4:44p
Subj: Flatbed Scanner                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I have a Epson GS-600 (ES-600C), color flatbed scanner for sale.
->
-> It is about three months old, I am selling it because someone donated
-> a HPIIC and no longer need it for the board!
->
-> I will let it go for best offer over $550.00 comes with the parrallel
-> interface card and all docs and cables..
->
-> Call me voice at 702-459-8862 after 4P.M. P.S.T. for more details
->
-> Troy Johnson
->
-> --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0109]
->  * Origin: Real Pro BBS Home of the Pioneer CD-Rom Changer (1:209/249
->
Will that bad boy work on amiga?


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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3420
  To: SREVE GEWECK                             Date: 08/16/93 11:22p
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you are interested in Busty Babes Vol#1 I have it! You can give me a call at
512-939-9822 or leave a message. It's really my husbands but what's his is mine
and what's mine is mine :) Pat

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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 3421
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/15/93 10:04p
Subj: X Movie Review CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Does ANYONE recall reading my review of Busty Babes Release 3.0?? If
-> not, I'll recreate it and re-post.

Bob, appreciate all your reviews. The one in question arrived fine in 
Levelland, Tx via Lunatic Fringe BBS in Dallas.

James

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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 3422
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/16/93  6:03p
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Could you (and anyone else that has CdRom Disks for sale) send me a
catalog, please?  Some of you already have. Thanks!

11749 Prado Del Sol
El Paso  TX 79936-6218


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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 3423
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/16/93  6:04p
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   If you are Computer Works, I just received a catalog in today's mail.
If not, please disregard this message.


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From: JIM REED                               Number: 3424
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/16/93  6:22p
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>BJ>> A while back, you gave me some prelim. data on a soon-to-be-released
LN>BJ>> CD that had reviews of X-rated movies on it by Jim Holliday.

Hi BOB;
        Just saw one exactly like this advertised in the back of aPC
        Magazine.  Don't know if it was the same one but it sure seemed
        simular.
                        /JIM/

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3425
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 08/16/93  8:09p
Subj: Duty Being Charged.                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

VS>CD-ROMs coming across the border again, claiming that the free trade
VS>agreement does not include them. As an example, I received a *DEMO*
VS>CD-ROM today that I was charged $5 postal handling, $2.43 Duty, and
VS>$3.78 GST. So, a "free" disc ending up costing over $10. This means that

If the disc was free ($0), what percentage sales tax did they
apply to get $3.78?

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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 3426
  To: MICHAEL SHUBER                           Date: 08/16/93  9:46a
Subj: 7th Guest & SBPro                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <11 Aug 93  22:22:00>, Michael Shuber (1:272/38) writes:
 >I am interested in some update or patch that is supposed to be out for
 >the Sound Blaster Pro and The 7th Guest.  Does anyone know anything
 >about this???
Yeah, it is available from Virign's BBS. I don't have the number handy, but if
you call the BBS number on the card in the box voice, it will tell you to cll
another number, which is a 4 line BBS at 14.4. The file will take around 3
minutes at 14.4.


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From: KIRK PRODZINSKI                        Number: 3427
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/17/93  1:22a
Subj: Re: Sound Sample CD-ROM D               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: JONATHAN MCGIRR                        Number: 3428
  To: SCOTT MARTIN                             Date: 08/16/93  8:55a
Subj: CD ROM Disk                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hi Mike, I see you are getting a lot of good references. I wanted you
-> me a reference for a Good CD ROM Disk to buy from you. I run a Gaming
-> am looking for a disk with NOTHING but Shareware and P.D. Games and C

Not sure whether you want to be legal or not? Cracks are illegal copies
of commercial software, or aren't you aware of that?


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From: MICHAEL DAVIS                          Number: 3429
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 08/14/93 11:00p
Subj: RE: Precision Mapping                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

======================================================================
From: MICHAEL SELLS             Conference: 87 , CDROM-Sale
  To: ALL                       Message: 1501  Reply To:
Subj: Precision Mapping         Date: 08-13-93  Time: 03:47
======================================================================

Hi,
It might be fun to have that CD-ROM, would you accept $30 +shipping
and COD for it?
Mike



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From: MICHAEL DAVIS                          Number: 3430
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 08/14/93 11:01p
Subj: RE: Prophone cd's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

======================================================================
From: CHRIS SNYDER              Conference: 87 , CDROM-Sale
  To: ALL                       Message: 1512  Reply To:
Subj: Prophone cd's             Date: 08-08-93  Time: 23:18
======================================================================

Hi,
Would you accept $40 +shipping and COD for this CD-ROM set?
Mike



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From: REBEL                                  Number: 3431
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 08/16/93  5:43p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@ORIGIN :Southern Pride BBS 1:151/151                                N
-> CK> WT> Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't
-> CK> WT> seem to work with QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and
-> CK> WT> should be able to be moved around by QEMM.  Perplexed
-> CK> WT> beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.  Any ideas would
-> CK> WT> help.

Heres my config I run 3 of them with QEMM without a hitch

DEVICE=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS R:2 RAM ST:M
DOS=HIGH,UMB
SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ /E:768 /p DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2
C:\DOS\RAMDRIVE.SYS 1024 /E rem DEVICE=C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.SYS 2048
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 C:\X00.SYS E b,0,38400 rem
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\IBMAUX2.SYS /X DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1
\DEV\MTMCDD.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:0 /M:2 /T:3 /I:5 DEVICE=c:\qemm\loadhi.sys
/r:2 \dev2\mtmcds.sys /d:mscd002 /p:348 /a:0 DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2
\DEV2\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD003 /P:340 /A:0


Hope this helps
Eddie Goodman
Southern Pride


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 3432
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/16/93  1:41p
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <08-15-93 08:05> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> Basically I said it represented the
BJ>> state-of-the-practice if not the state-of-the-art in GUI front ends
BJ>> for CDs. I only cited a few negatives such as the reduced images
BJ>> being quite "grainy", etc....

Never saw it--The "Grainy" images in thumbnail form 16 images to a page is due
to the scan being 'Dithered' which is typical of scans done by older scanners
of 2-3 years ago--As you click on the image and enlarge it to full form, the
'Grainy' disappears--YOu notice it more on McHenry's scans etc.

SHOWOFF is our baby now in this industry, and you will see her on our 2 disc's
coming out in September--

Thanks Babe !

-=*>Lee<*+-  
 
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From: LESLIE THOMAS                          Number: 3433
  To: GREG MANTER                              Date: 08/16/93  8:14a
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GM>Leslie,
GM>     I have an MPC compatible CD-ROM drive that I run with my SBPRO.
GM>have 13 CDs that I would like to sell with it.  Please call me at
GM>(614) 363-8201 or leave a message here if you are interested. Thanks.


I am interested, what price range are you looking for?  Just to make
sure...this is connected to the SB Pro as a controller, and not through
the audio in?

    WinQwk 2.0 a#0


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From: WILLIAM E GOSSETT                      Number: 3434
  To: GREG MANTER                              Date: 08/16/93 12:18a
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Leslie,
 >      I have an MPC compatible CD-ROM drive that I run
 > with my SBPRO.  I also have 13 CDs that I would like
 > to sell with it.  Please call me at
 > (614) 363-8201 or leave a message here if you are
 > interested. Thanks.

What are the title of the cd's?
is the drive internal or external?
what would take for them?

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From: TONY DAVIS                             Number: 3435
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 08/14/93  9:41a
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> On July 20th, I was arrested and all my BBS equipment was seized. If
-> found guilty, I am facing 15 years / $25,000 for sale & possession of
-> obscene material.

 >  Tony where did this happen and is this a federal law or a local
 >law in your home state? I thought a BBS was a PRIVATE electronic
 >service? Did you let most people access your files without verifying
 >ages? Please let me know about this law.


I was arrested by Oklahoma City Police Department on State obscenity charges.
It had nothing to do with age, just a decision by the OKC PD that the 'adult'
cds were in violation of the State of Oklahoma's Obscenity laws to own or
distribute.

Tony

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From: TONY DAVIS                             Number: 3436
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/14/93  6:22p
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >Let us in on your situation . . . what are the details???  In what
 >state do you live?

Oklahoma. The BBS had 16 CD Roms, 4 of which were 'adult'. They were FAO 3,
Storm 2 & 3, and Busty Babes.  According to the officers that arrested me,
anything that shows 'penatration' is obscene by State statute.

Tony

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From: TONY DAVIS                             Number: 3437
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/16/93  7:11p
Subj: OIE                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Update on The Oklahoma Information Exchange BBS:

As most are aware, the OIE BBS was seized in a raid by Oklahoma City 
Police Department on July 20th. Until formal charges were filed, all 
decisions on the future of the BBS were delayed.

On Aug 13th, the Oklahoma County District Attorney's office finally filed 
felony charges. They were:

    2 felony counts of selling obscene CD-Roms
    1 felony count of possessing obscene CD-Roms
    1 felony count of trafficking obscene material by electronic means.

Of the 16 CD that were on the BBS, the 4 that were actually listed as 
obscene in the felony filing were:

            Busty Babes Vol 1
            Storm 2
            For Adults Only (FAO) 2
            For Adults Only (FAO) 3


That last count is the kicker. Since the DA has decided that the BBS 
itself was in violation of laws, there seems little doubt that the OIE BBS 
equipment will not be returned prior to a long drawn out legal fight.

Although I have every intention of filing whatever civil suites are 
necessary to get the equipment returned, I truly believe there will not be 
a quick return of OIE.

Tony

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 3438
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/16/93  9:02p
Subj: C/C++ CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its C/C++ CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
987 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 3439
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/17/93  5:04p
Subj: PRECISION MAPPING                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Aug 16 06:58>, Al James of 1:279/7 writes:

MS>  I have a copy of Precision Mapping that I don't need, (already have the
MS>disc), that I will be willing to part with. This is the complete map of the
MS>USA that allows you to zoom all the way down to the street you are looking
MS>for. Search by area code, city name, street name, and zip code. The disc 
MS>cos$88.00 to $120 new depending on your source. I will consider all trade 
MS>offeror cash.
MS>Thanks,

Sorry Al, it's been sold.
Michael Sells


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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 3440
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/17/93  5:05p
Subj: Precision Mapping                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Aug 14 14:20>, Jim Lambert of 1:18/10 writes:

MS> I have a copy of Precision Mapping that I don't need, (already have the 
  >disc), that I will be willing to part with. 
 JL>  
 JL> I am interested in a copy for myself.  I sell them but would be 
 JL> willing 
 JL> to make a trade for something else.  How about 2 shareware CD's?  
 JL> Well, 
 JL> let me know what you are interested and we can make a deal. :) 
 JL>  
Sorry Jim, it's sold.
Michael Sells

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 3441
  To: MICHAEL DAVIS                            Date: 08/17/93  5:05p
Subj: RE: Precision Mapping                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Aug 14 23:00>, MICHAEL DAVIS of 1:207/225 writes:

 MD> =================================================================
 MD> =====
 MD> From: MICHAEL SELLS             Conference: 87 , CDROM-Sale
 MD>   To: ALL                       Message: 1501  Reply To:
 MD> Subj: Precision Mapping         Date: 08-13-93  Time: 03:47
 MD> =================================================================
 MD> =====

 MD> Hi,
 MD> It might be fun to have that CD-ROM
Sorry Michael, it's sold.
Michael Sells

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From: MATT BLOCKER                           Number: 3442
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93 10:19p
Subj: Shareware                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone have any shareware CD for sale?

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From: GREG GILETTO                           Number: 3443
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/17/93  9:31p
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bob, 
I saw your review of BB3. Just wanted to let you know. 
See Ya on BBS. 
Greg 
 
... LETS GO PHILLIES!!! 
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From: RALPH MOWERY                           Number: 3444
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/12/93  7:04p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WT>Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to work with QEMM.
WT>driver is a TSR and should be able to be moved around by QEMM.  Perplexed
WT>beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.  Any ideas would help.

I have been using QEMM and also Stacker ( for what that is worth ) With
the Mitsumi CD and do not seem to have any problem with it.  The drive
is driven by a sound card .

I am posting the AUTOEXEC.BAT file

c:\24xmode monitor
REM  THE "CHECK" LINE BELOW PROVIDES ADDITIONAL SAFETY FOR STACKER DRIVES.
REM  PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE IT.
C:\STACKER\CHECK /WP
PATH C:\DOS;C:\QEMM;C:\STACKER;C:\WINDOWS;c:\nbwin;C:\NORTON;C:\QA;C:\XTGOLD;C:
C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE
rem C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:1 C:\DOS\SHARE
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 FILES 40
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 C:\PROTECT\VWATCH
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:1 C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /M:10 /E /L:G
SET TEMP=c:\DOS
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T4 PROMPT =$P$G$G

and CONFIG.SYS file

DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS R:2 exclude=A000-C7FF RAM DBF=2 xst=c000 ST:M
SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ /E:1024 /p
Files = 10
buffers=10
DOS=HIGH,umb
LASTDRIVE=H
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 C:\STACKER\STACKER.COM /ems  C:\STACVOL.DSK /P=5


DEVICE=c:\qemm\loadhi.sys C:\STACKER\SSWAP.COM C:\STACVOL.DSK /SYNC+
DEVICE=c:\qemm\loadhi.sys /r:1 c:\mmpro\drivers\sgcdm.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:


DEVICE=c:\qemm\loadhi.sys /r:1 c:\mouse9\mouse.sys
rem STACKS=9,256

Maybe this will help you configuer your system.  I am sure you will have
to change the parameters of the drivers for your system, but it may
help.  Several lines are rem out as I have been playing with the system
and do not want to loose the data..  The exclude A000-C7FF and  xst=C000
are for the Speedstar 24x vidio board in my system..

All seems to work well with this setup and no crashes or lock-ups..
Good luck..


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From: MATT PETERSON                          Number: 3445
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/16/93  9:14a
Subj: Mitsumi LU005 CDROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I was wondering if someone out there could tell me if it is a good deal
to get a Mitsumi LU005 Internal ISA CD-ROM drive for $225, or does
anyone out there have a cheaper source?  Or is that a good deal.

Im wondering because im planning on purchasing BSD/386 (UNIX) for BSDI,
and you have to install it from either a SCSI CDROM or a Mitsumi LU005
[the only ISA drive they support], and if you buy the CDROM drive with
the software, they will sell it to you for $225.

Thanx
 Matthew Peterson
 mpeterso@nyx.cs.du.edu


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From: PIERRE DU PREEZ                        Number: 3446
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 08/13/93 10:34p
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jerry
 JM>  I have a hardly used (in new condition) NEC CDR-35 external 
 JM> CD-ROM drive for sale. The complete package contains an NEC 
 JM> interface card and cable, all original manuals, and software 
 JM> drivers.  For the price of $140.00 (negotiable) I will 
 JM> guarantee against DOA and ship it to your door. If you are 
 JM> intersted, please reply via this echo.
I will take it if you receive this in time. Hope so......
Possible to give me your voice number.
 Pierre

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3447
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/16/93  8:31a
Subj: 7th Guest $40                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For a limited time 7th Guest $40 plus shipping. ($3 US, $6 international).
We also have many other specials. If you are interested be in our mailing list,
send your information via fax or e-mail to:
 
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628 1-206-473-1634 FAX 1-800-277-5179 FAX
Fido: 1:138/116 or 1:138/120 

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3448
  To: MARK SMITH                               Date: 08/16/93  8:35a
Subj: Re: Walnut Creek Releases               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> IA> Also CICA Windows will be updated next week.
> Care to send this one to me in Australia as well...???? I would also like
> this one too...
Hi Mark,
COD is only available within USA. However, we do take Australian personal
checks. TTYL
 
Groupware 

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3449
  To: MARK SMITH                               Date: 08/16/93  8:37a
Subj: Re: Pagemaker 5.0                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Anyone got Pagemaker 5.0 on CD...??? if so how much...???
It is not available on CD as far as know. (I was touring the plant where they
do Aldus manuals and disk dublications). Maybe in the near future. There is
only one CD-ROM product available from Aldus for only their internal use. TTYL
 
GroupWare 

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From: LOUIS SOKOL                            Number: 3450
  To: HERB SCHERKER                            Date: 08/17/93  8:34a
Subj: Disks                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send me a catalog of your CDs. 
 
  JET Computer Services 
  3350 Highway 6, Suite 563 
  Sugar Land, TX 77478 

Thanks!
* SPITFIRE v3.3
* Database Connections BBS * Supporting dBASE, Clipper, and More!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3451
  To: JAMES HOGUE                              Date: 08/17/93 10:13a
Subj: X Movie Review CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks, James, for *both* remarks. I've re-sent the BB3 review to Lee  just in
case her node dropped the packet. 
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 3452
  To: EVERYBODY                                Date: 08/16/93 10:45p
Subj: -=- The Storage Specialists -=-         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    -=- CD ROM DRIVES -=-
 
 Model      Speed        Price         -=- The Storage Specialists -=-
 ==============================           -=- 9400 W.51st Avenue -=-
 TOSHIBA XM-3401                           -=- Arvada, CO 80002 -=-
 Internal   200MS        500.00
 External   200MS        600.00                -=- To Order -=-
                                            -=- 1.800.224.5150 -=-
 TEAC CD-50                             -=- 24 Hrs/365 Days A Year -=-
 Internal   270MS        400.00
 External   270MS        500.00        -=- Tech Support/Price List -=-
                                           -=- 1.303.940.1012 -=-
 MITSUMI		                           -=- Mon-Fri 9:00am-5:30pm -=-
 Internal   350MS        195.00       
                                      -=- We Accept Visa/Mastercard -=-
                                       -=- Personal/Company Checks -=-
                                      -=- Money Order/Cashiers Check -=-

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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 3453
  To: BUNNY MCELWEE                            Date: 08/17/93  8:54a
Subj: Distributors wanted???                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (15 Aug 93) Bunny Mcelwee wrote to Paul Sedillo...

 BM>     Hi I saw a message that you were looking for distributors, but I
 BM> can't seem to find the original...SO, anyways, here's my address and
 BM> all as I am interested in what you have to offer...Thanks and hope to
 BM> hear from you soon.
 BM> 

Here is where we can be reached:

-=- The Storage Specialists
-=- 9400 W. 51st Avenue
-=- Arvada, CO 80002
-=-
-=- Orders Only:
-=- 1.800.224.5150
-=-
-=- Tech Support/Current Price List
-=- 303.940.1012

I need to recieve a letter from you, indicating what you do.
Also, I need a current copy of your State Tax ID for re-seller purposes.
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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 3454
  To: STEVE WINTER                             Date: 08/17/93  9:18a
Subj: Don't be tricked!!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (15 Aug 93) Steve Winter wrote to All...

 SW> Don't be tricked by ficticious prices that appear amazingly low,
 SW> BUT have shipping/handling charges and credit card charges added on.  
 SW> 
 SW> For example, what if someone takes the modem that I sell for $169 and 
 SW> then advertises it as $165 and then at the bottom have a $10 shipping 
 SW> and handling charge and $4.00 credit card charge??  
 SW> You would actually be paying $179 instead of $169 !!!
 SW> 
 SW> Don't encourage these "low ball" techniques of deceptive advertising.
 SW> Add up the TOTAL COST to you to have the product in your hand.  
 SW> (also consider just *who* you want having your credit card info, eh??)
 SW> 

I would definatly conqure! Some vendors do not realize that by
setting "low ball" prices, they are only hurting themselves.
They are in it for the short term, quick buck. I am glad to see
that you and your company do not support, or practice these
tactics. 

Paul Sedillo
The Storage Specialists
9400 W. 5150 Avenue
Arvada, CO 80002
303.940.1012
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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 3455
  To: LEN GLADSTONE                            Date: 08/15/93  9:04a
Subj: Test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LG> TESTING MY INEPTITUDE WITH AN OFFLINE MAIL READER

Aside from all caps, you look pretty ept to me <g>

 * SLMR 2.1a * Fortysomthing -- confused and lost.


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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 3456
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/15/93  7:11p
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ> Does ANYONE recall reading my review of Busty Babes Release 3.0?? If not, I
BJ> recreate it and re-post.

Yup. Even have a copy of your review stored away. <g>

 * SLMR 2.1a * Cana-DOS: "Yer sure, eh?" [O]k, eh! [N]o way! [B]eauty!


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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 3457
  To: DAVID NAFFIS                             Date: 08/16/93  7:13a
Subj: Sound Sample CD-ROM Disc                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->        You should get Creative Sounds from creative labs. It has hund
->  .WAV, .MOD, and more; both songs and sound effects.
Hey, anyway I can get it other than C.L.?
It 'sounds' interesting :)

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 3458
  To: ART BREAULT                              Date: 08/16/93  7:54a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Are you accessing the cd rom through a dma channel or a software
-> actuation. My cd rom had to go to software access due to the fact I c
-> not convince the computer to accept E drive when I used dma access. N
-> matter what I did it thought D. This conflicted with a hard drive. I
-> using extention 2.3. I software actuation then the scsi interface sho
-> not be a problem. I believe though that I to was told that cd roms we
-> interface sensitive.
One of the lines that initializes the device driver stes the drive
letter.
I'm not sure which it is, but the manual should say. Mine automatically
went to D too, and I had to set the line to make it E.
The MSCDEX.exe file has it. set /l:E I think, not sure now.

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 3459
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 08/17/93  7:21a
Subj: RE: SegaCD's                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I am sending out $12.90 tomorrow.  YOu could send those cd's priority
>mail pack from the post office for $2.90.  If you have some sort of
>brochure from the segacd about more cd+g's then, let me know
 
Sounds good,as soon as I recieve it with your address I'll ship them out.I'll
look and see if I have any brochures on the CD+G's and if I do I'll ship it
with the package.

Thanks Again,
 
                                     Diana

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3460
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/17/93  3:12p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>>>    Is that busty babes 3.0?

BO>Yes, version 1.0 volume 3.0 ! Interested, give us a call at the above
BO>number and we'll be happy to help you out.

No, volume 1, version 3.

 * SLMR 2.1 * Give me liberty or give me death.

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3461
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/17/93  3:16p
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>TD>On July 20th, I was arrested and all my BBS equipment was seized. If

MS>Let us in on your situation . . . what are the details???  In what
MS>state do you live?

He lives in Oklahoma and that probably explains the situation.

 * SLMR 2.1 * Give me liberty or give me death.

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3462
  To: LEN GLADSTONE                            Date: 08/17/93  3:20p
Subj: Test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LG>TESTING MY INEPTITUDE WITH AN OFFLINE MAIL READER

You are inept.

 * SLMR 2.1 * Don't blame the tool for the murderer's work.

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From: TROY JOHNSON                           Number: 3463
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 08/17/93  6:09p
Subj: Flatbed Scanner                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

VS>-> I have a Epson GS-600 (ES-600C), color flatbed scanner for sale.
  >->
  >-> It is about three months old, I am selling it because someone donated
  >-> a HPIIC and no longer need it for the board!
  >->
  >-> I will let it go for best offer over $550.00 comes with the parrallel
  >-> interface card and all docs and cables..
  >->
  >-> Call me voice at 702-459-8862 after 4P.M. P.S.T. for more details
  >->
  >-> Troy Johnson
  >->
  >-> --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0109]
  >->  * Origin: Real Pro BBS Home of the Pioneer CD-Rom Changer (1:209/249
  >->
  >Will that bad boy work on amiga?


I am not sure, it has a parrallal interface, you would have to check on
software for the unit.

Troy
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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 3464
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 08/16/93  1:29p
Subj: Re: Create DOS Multimedia               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

   > TEMPRA VideoEdit AND MultiMedia Authoring Software (DOS)
   > Tempra PRO- Photorealistic image editor & high-end 24bit paint pkg.
   > Tempra TURBO ANIMATOR- 32-bit accelerator, animation editor


 AG>      Since you have given no indication (other than the "inflated retail")
 AG> as to your cost on this disc, and have not indicated that it is "used" or
 AG> "new", and have not even indicated what you would like 

   >
Arnie: 
It's open but comes with all registration cards, so it's more or less "new".
It's on floppys, not CDs- the ad is in this section because it's an authoring
system that can be used to CREATE multimedia for distribution on CD.
I will consider all offers over $200.
-Bob


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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 3465
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/17/93  6:50p
Subj: 2 ROMS FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Al,
     I am interested in U.S History and the terrorist CD.  Give me a call at 
(614) 363-8201.  Thanks.


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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 3466
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93  7:00p
Subj: Multimedia Items For Sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi,
     I have a slightly used Mitsumi CD-ROM drive (MPC compatible) for sale with
a SoundBlaster Pro card including MIDI connections and the following disks:
        The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
        1992 Guinness Disk of Records: Multimedia Version
        Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume I
        The Software Jukebox: Home and Entertainment Edition
        VGA Spectrum
        Original Shareware 1992
        MPC Wizard with Media Clips
        Introduction to Nautilus
        Phoenix Shareware CD: Version 2.0
        Sample This!
        The Future is Now!

     All of these hook up to make a great multimedia system.  
        MAKE ANY REASONABLE OFFERS!  If interested in any or all of the above
call me at (614) 363-8201 or leave a message here.
                                                        Thanks!!


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From: JIM REED                               Number: 3467
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93  6:46p
Subj: Mitsumi Audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi All;
        Could one of you techies out there help me with a minor nagginy
        problem.  I play my cd as an audio, using PLAYCD,  whenever I'm
        not using it for a ROM drive and it works except whenever I
        start an UPLOAD it stops.  What makes this so confusing is that
        it just keeps right on trucking when I download leading me to
        believe that there's no interupt conflict.  This is the only
        time I have problems with it.  It's a Mitsumi internal using the
        latest drivers.  I use telix on com 1, with a USR 14.4, and
        either Zmodem or HSlink.
                        Thanks
                                /JIM/

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 3468
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/17/93  9:57p
Subj: Disk                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <08-15-93 23:21> Pat Rickerson wrote:

PR>> I have Busty Babes 1.0 where can I sell it for that price?
PR>> Sure would like to know! I would even sell it for less!

Ask Boris O, he is in this echo--He is the champ of BB Rel 1.0
Hope you do well too !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: STEVE HECKER                           Number: 3469
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/18/93 12:02a
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > 
 > 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256 
 > From Original 35mm Slides


        Blaine, pardon me for asking, but why would anyone pay for a disk
filled with gifs of senior citizens ? :-) 

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 3470
  To: MING CHAN                                Date: 08/17/93  9:43p
Subj: NIGHTOWL                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MC> Do you known of or have you encountered any problems with such adult
 MC> CD-ROM being shipped across the border?

I have generally not had any trouble except once or twice.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 3471
  To: BRIAN MILLER                             Date: 08/17/93  9:49p
Subj: Walnut Creek Releases                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> We now have Giga Games in stock!..

 BM> How much for this cd?
We have it in stock for $19.95. 615-339-0235 to order.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 3472
  To: STEVE GERWECK                            Date: 08/17/93  9:51p
Subj: BB                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SG> What are your prices on the three versions of Busty Babes?

We have the new version 3 in stock for $22.95 on special this week. 
615-339-0235 or 800-547-7817 to order.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 3473
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 08/17/93  9:54p
Subj: CD-ROMs                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RD> Mike,
 RD>      I am interested in buying the latest versions of GREAT CD-Roms.  
 RD> I have a particular interest in GR8 shareware 
 RD> collections with particular reference to 
 RD> subscription CDs such as Walnut Creek do with 
 RD> Simtel-20, CICA-Windows and the like.  Any info you 
 RD> have may net you a regular customer, same goes for 
 RD> anyone else reading this, Good CD-Roms are in short 
 RD> supply in Finland <grin>.

We sell most of the latest cds out such as So Mucb Shareware 3, Software Vault
2, Nightowl 9, Simtel, CD Winbox.  Prices are herre in the echo under our ad
for PCJ.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 3474
  To: JEREMY NINO                              Date: 08/17/93  9:57p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JN> Alright!  Gittem BUB!!!
 JN> ---
That would be Gittem Lady! <g>

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 3475
  To: PETE CRESSWELL                           Date: 08/17/93  9:58p
Subj: MULTI VS SINGLE PLAYERS                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PC> 1)  If a six-platter changer costs $750 and single-
 PC> platter players can be had for $150 each ( 6 * 150 
 PC> = $900) couldn't one argue for six standalone 
 PC> players because of:

What drives can you get that are daisy chainable and allow all 6 to be hooked
up to one machine for $150 each?
 
 PC> - Faster access: it's gotta take *some* time to 
 PC> swap to another platter even     if nobody else is 
 PC> using the one currently mounted.
 
Only a few seconds and if you use a copy to hard drive utility, chances of two
wanting the same thing are rare.  Pioneers are ok for like up to a 10 node
system, but not for the larger ones.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 3476
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93 10:01p
Subj: RED HOT CDROM Specials                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

               PCJ "Hot" WEEKLY SPECIALS 8/17 - 8/24
 
BattleChess................$ 22.95 PC Sig 12.................... 19.95
Busty Babes v3.0............ 22.95 Prophone '93 Business........ 24.95
Color Magic/Women of Venus.. 29.95 Prophone '92 3 CD Set........ 31.95
History of Jazz............. 25.95 Seventh Guest (No Video)..... 44.95
MacMillan Dictionary 4 Kids. 26.95 Space + Dinosaur Adventure... 48.95
PC Sig 11................... 18.95 Storm 1-3 + Hot Pix 2-5..... 139.95
Digital Dreams/Southern Beauties/Amatuer Models................  69.95
Mystique of Orient/Rimfire/Dirty Talk/Seedy Rom Movie.......... 139.95
 
          Orders - 800-547-7817 or 615-339-0235 (24 Hours)

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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 3477
  To: ART BREAULT                              Date: 08/17/93 10:31p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 AB> Are you accessing the cd rom through a dma channel or a software
 AB> actuation. My cd rom had to go to software access due to the fact I could
 AB> not convince the computer to accept E drive when I used dma access. No

I've tried both.  I can read the Shareware Bonanza set and so far nothing else.
 I picked up Night Owl 7 in a trade today, and can't even read it.

 AB> matter what I did it thought D. This conflicted with a hard drive. I am
 AB> using extention 2.3. I software actuation then the scsi interface should
 AB> not be a problem. I believe though that I to was told that cd roms were
 AB> interface sensitive.

I've been told  recently that the Mitsumi is a proprietary form of SCSI and
that with the right driver and hardware adapter(i.e. a 50 to 40 pin adapter)
that I can run the drive off of my SCSI host.  Have you heard if this is true.

Also is it possible to hook my 8 bit Mitsumi to a 16 bit Mitsumi interface?
If so, where would I get a 16 bit interface?

                                         Ron

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From: DOUG SNELL                             Number: 3478
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/17/93  4:32p
Subj: BB3 Review                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bob,
    I want to thank you for taking the time and patience to review BB3. Your
review is very well written and has convinced me to order it.

                            Thanks
                                Doug

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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 3479
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 08/17/93  7:13p
Subj: John W. Campbell's been dead since 1971  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     Maybe they'll get around to having a JWC stamp one of these years

     Campbell was the father of modern Science Fiction.

     He edited Astounding/Analog from 1938-1971.

     But Isaac Asimov will probably have a stamp first.

     Campbell was trained as an engineer.

     He would have understood CD-ROMs.

     [Bet you thought I was posting out of topic!]

     *:o)


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From: CHAD STUDY                             Number: 3480
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/16/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On Thu 12-Aug-1993  7:13a, Ismail Arslangiray wrote:
IA> Hi,
IA> Also within two weeks we are publishing an Amiga disk in ISO-9660 format
IA> for BBS Systems. TTYL
IA>  
IA> GroupWAre 

  Allright!  The responce I have been looking for ( Allthough I thank the
generous people who were trying to help me out ( and make a buck heheheh.. ) )
 
Are these files going to be orginized like Pier 2 or Night Owl 9 ?
Or at least will every file have a description?
I need a good Amiga CD for my BBS.

Any input would be greatly appreciated!
 
Thanx in advance!
 
Chad

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 3481
  To: BOB HALL                                 Date: 08/17/93  8:55p
Subj: CSS CD PRICE LIST                       Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93  7:38p                       Private: No 

 > There is a ten limit on ads in this echo.

Ten products? ten days? ???

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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 3482
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/17/93  1:30p
Subj: Busty babes, before 3                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PR> Have Busty #1, know any one that wants to buy it?
 PR>                     Pat Rickerson
 PR>                     512-939-7095

Sure do, me. How much you asking? If its Ver.#1 release#1 that is. You can tell
by if its lacking the Text directorys. -Thank
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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 3483
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/17/93  1:46p
Subj: X Movie Review CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BJ> Does ANYONE recall reading my review of Busty Babes Release 3.0??
 BJ> If not, I'll recreate it and re-post.

Sure do. Read it & saved it to disk. Keep it up.... :-)
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From: JOEY RATZSCH                           Number: 3484
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/16/93  4:03p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TB> Sorry they are gone.  If you want to send me your phone number I'll
 TB> call you if I get any more.

(414) 335-2799, live Wire BBS, 14400. (v.32bis of course!)

Joey


... Take egotism out, and you castrate the benefactors.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: TONY MACE                              Number: 3485
  To: ROEL SARCENO                             Date: 08/17/93  6:43p
Subj: New Idea !                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Roel!

Saturday August 14 1993 22:47, Roel Sarceno wrote to All:

 RS> Hi All,

 RS> Here's an idea.  What about if all or several CD ROM distributors
 RS> will send a file (price list) to a certain node.  For this example
 RS> we will assume a node address of 1:9999/9999.  Node 1:999/9999 will

I would be willing....  I have the space and the time.....

Tony

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From: PETER RALLIS                           Number: 3486
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 08/16/93  4:12a
Subj: Precision Mapping                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll offer $48.00 prepaid including shipping.

peter...

... You paid how much for that...!
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From: MIKE GLADDEN                           Number: 3487
  To: JOEY RATZSCH                             Date: 08/16/93  9:44p
Subj: Re: 7th guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JR> I would like to trade some CD-ROM disks for a copy of 7th guest.
 JR> If intereseted, drop me a line and you can see whats avalible.  If you
 JR> want to buy them, I am also selling them.
 JR> Later
 JR> Joey

I might be willing to trade.  I'm looking for Adult oriented stuff, some sort
of CD which can aid in identifying prescription drugs, and the US Street Atlas.

MikeG

... File not found, I'll load something *I* think is interesting. ___ Blue
Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: JIM MEINHARDT                          Number: 3488
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93 10:29p
Subj: Billboard CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     I am looking for a CD relating to Billboard Magazine.  I know it's
out there cause I saw it a magazine a while back.  Would like to buy
it if it's still available.
                                               Thanks, Jim



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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 3489
  To: KIRK REEVES                              Date: 08/18/93  6:39a
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AJ> I have one ... and even more...it's the tope of the line external model.
AJ> I can let it go for $265.00.  Let me know soon, Either way!
KR>
KR> I am interested.  Can you tell me what the access time is and track seek?

The access time is 380ms with a 150kb transfer rate.

I still have it, but have plenty of inquiries.  I will go to the first one
with the bucks.

Al James

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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 3490
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/18/93  3:46p
Subj: Another Bust                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FYI:

---------------
Update on The Oklahoma Information Exchange BBS:

As most are aware, the OIE BBS was seized in a raid by Oklahoma City 
Police Department on July 20th. Until formal charges were filed, all 
decisions on the future of the BBS were delayed.

On Aug 13th, the Oklahoma County District Attorney's office finally filed 
felony charges. They were:

    2 felony counts of selling obscene CD-Roms
    1 felony count of possessing obscene CD-Roms
    1 felony count of trafficking obscene material by electronic means.

Of the 16 CD that were on the BBS, the 4 that were actually listed as 
obscene in the felony filing were:

            Busty Babes Vol 1
            Storm 2
            For Adults Only (FAO) 2
            For Adults Only (FAO) 3


That last count is the kicker. Since the DA has decided that the BBS 
itself was in violation of laws, there seems little doubt that the OIE BBS 
equipment will not be returned prior to a long drawn out legal fight.

Although I have every intention of filing whatever civil suites are 
necessary to get the equipment returned, I truly believe there will not be 
a quick return of OIE.

Tony
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From: MARK GUTT                              Number: 3491
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93  6:26p
Subj: Busty Babes 1.0                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a copy of the "BUSTY BABES" Volume 1, Release 1.0
thats in excellent condition (used 3 or 4 times) that I
would like to sell. If you are interested, leave your
name,an offer, and how you can be reached.


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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3492
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93  7:44a
Subj: New Echo - Multimedia                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have started a new echo area called MULTIMEDIA
I will do the initial feeding, if you like to get linked, please send a net
mail and I will start feeding your node.
 
MULTIMEDIA Echo Coverage
------------------------
CD-ROM Players
CD-ROM Titles (Including adult)
Sound Cards
Multimedia Authoring Systems
Replication
Industry News Press Releases
and any other MultiMedia related topics
 
This echo also can be ported to any other sister nets and RIME.
 
Ismail Arslangiray
1:138/116 or 1:138/120 

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 3493
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/16/93  6:44p
Subj:  BUSTY BABES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Bob!

Sunday August 15 1993, Bob Jackson writes to Lee Noga:

 BJ> Thanks for the data, Lee. There's a saying here in The Lone Star State
 BJ> that the only reason we don't fall into the Gulf of Mexico is because
 BJ> Oklahoma sucks.

<ROFL>


... Do you swear to tell the truth? Who me? I'm a liberal! - Clinton

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From: TIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 3494
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93 11:51p
Subj: Publish It! 3.0 for Windows             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Publish It! for Windows, version 3.0. Special CD-ROM version includes Adobe
Type manager, over 300 sample layouts, more than 3000 high resolution clip art
images, and more. Numerous "Best Buy" awards. This is not version 2.0
advertised in this echo for 29.95, but the latest Windows version. Will
consider trading for other titles or best cash offer.

318-988-1404 voice mail
318-981-6613 fax


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3495
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/18/93  7:34a
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Re-sent the review addressed to you, Lee. Of course you're right. The 
"graininess" is evident only in the thumbnail images - not the full-sized 
ones. Looking forward to the September releases! 
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: WILLIAM E GOSSETT                      Number: 3496
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/17/93  8:45p
Subj: 2 ROMS FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I have a couple of CD's that I am willing to trade or
 > sell.

 >                       U.S. History on CD-Rom
 >                       Terrorist Group Profiles on CD-
 > ROM
 how much each?
 >                       Microsoft Bookshelf (CD-ROM)


 > Give me an offer or tell me what you have to trade.


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From: SHANE HEDRICK                          Number: 3497
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/18/93  4:10p
Subj: Re: Sound Sample CD-ROM Disc            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

}}}}}} On 08-16-93  07:13 HENRY said to DAVID {{{{{{
 ->        You should get Creative Sounds from creative labs. It has hund
 ->  .WAV, .MOD, and more; both songs and sound effects.
 HP> Hey, anyway I can get it other than C.L.?
 HP> It 'sounds' interesting :)

     I have it for sale or trade, make an offer. obo.


... She won't last forever, so why buy her a diamond?
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From: LARRY HEATH                            Number: 3498
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 08/18/93 10:10p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Rebel to Jim Reed <=-

 Re> @ORIGIN :Southern Pride BBS 1:151/151                               
 N -> CK> WT> Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't
 -> CK> WT> seem to work with QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and
 -> CK> WT> should be able to be moved around by QEMM.  Perplexed
 -> CK> WT> beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.  Any ideas would
 -> CK> WT> help.

I had a bit of problem with the Mitsumi drive after I changed to DOS 6.0
the problem was that I was using an older version of mscdex.exe file, thats 
loaded in your Autoexec.bat file. I had ver 2.21 in the system and it worked 
fine, till I changed to DOS 6.0. Then the drive wouldn't work, it seemed 
like all the files loaded alright but nothing worked.
When I went to the mscdex.exe file ver 2.22 the Mitsumi came back to life.
Just type mscdex at the C:> prompt and the system will display the version 
if any that is loaded. 
                                        Later Larry


... File not found, I'll load something *I* think is interesting.    
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From: LARRY HEATH                            Number: 3499
  To: MATT PETERSON                            Date: 08/18/93 10:31p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi LU005 CDROM                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Matt Peterson to All <=-

 MP> I was wondering if someone out there could tell me if it is a good
 MP> deal to get a Mitsumi LU005 Internal ISA CD-ROM drive for $225, or does
 MP> anyone out there have a cheaper source?  Or is that a good deal.

 MP> Thanx
 MP> Matthew Peterson
 MP> mpeterso@nyx.cs.du.edu

Hi Matt,
  While I can't find the exact stock number on the Mitsumi, I got one from
Comsumer's Club Intermational for $195 for the whole kit. 
There number is 216-225-6759
                                      Later Larry

... * Hey! Don't pick up that phoׯ»’ችÃÒç
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From: ROBERT MCGEHEE                         Number: 3500
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/18/93 12:51p
Subj: Cd Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey, I'm looking for a CD-Rom drive, used or new.  If anyone is selling 
one then write me a message or send me a catalog.  The CD drive needs 
to fit Multi-Media requirements and needs to have Sound Blaster 
compatability.  My address:
 
 
        Robert McGehee
        251 Arapaho Lane
        Madison, MS
        39110-9193
 
So if you have any, send my a catalog.

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From: BEN BARTON                             Number: 3501
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/18/93  1:29p
Subj: CD-ROMs                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC>
DC>We sell most of the latest cds out such as So Mucb Shareware 3, Sof
DC>2, Nightowl 9, Simtel, CD Winbox.  Prices are herre in the echo und
DC>for PCJ.

Doug,
Can you give me some more info on the CD Winbox?  Price, types of files,
etc.

Thanks,
Ben


 * Orator V1.12  *  [Windows Qwk Reader Unregistered Evaluation Copy]


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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 3502
  To: PETER RALLIS                             Date: 08/18/93  4:36p
Subj: Precision Mapping                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Aug 16 04:12>, Peter Rallis of 1:128/13 writes:

 PR> peter...

Sorry Peter, it's sold.
Michael Sells

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From: CRAIG MOSER                            Number: 3503
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93  9:57p
Subj: Mac CD-ROMS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following Macintosh (HFS) cd-roms for sale or trade:

BBS in a Box VII  - Macintosh shareware cdrom
BBS in a Box VIII - Macintosh shareware cdrom
Giga-ROM v3 - Macintosh shareware cdrom
Aesopolis - the animated, interactive world of Aesops fables (great)!

Will consider all offers (mac, adult, clipart, etc)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3504
  To: CARL SCHULTZ                             Date: 08/17/93  1:14a
Subj: Cd price list 1/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS>do you have DUNE or DUNE 2? (CD)

Not yet.  Soon hopefully!

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3505
  To: KIRK REEVES                              Date: 08/17/93  1:15a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KR> MS> 1....................37.00
KR> MS>  Animation Fantasies 1 or 2....29.00    Porkware 2
KR> MS> (New!).............37.00
KR> MS>  Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private

KR>I am interested in the two disks above.  How far are you from Portland, OR?
KR>I would like to visit your shop.

We're in Yakima, about 200 miles to the northeast.  Feel free to stop by
any time at 1406 S 25th Ave, just south of Montgomery Wards.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3506
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 08/17/93  1:18a
Subj: Discs                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JS> IA> CD PowerBox $12
JS> IA> CD Winbox   $12
JS> IA> Night Owl's v.9 $21
JS> IA> So Much Shareware III $21

JS>Whats would the total be on these with your generous %5 discount? ;-)

$62.70 + s/h.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3507
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 08/17/93  1:18a
Subj: Precision Mapping                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>  I have a copy of Precision Mapping that I don't need, (already have the
MS>disc), that I will be willing to part with. This is the complete map of the
U
MS>that allows you to zoom all the way down to the street you are looking for.
MS>Search by area code, city name, street name, and zip code. The disc cost
$88.
MS>to $120 new depending on your source. I will consider all trade offers or
cas

Michael,

If you want, you can send this in to S&S for a free upgrade to version
1.5b.  It has an improved search utility that now includes a whole list of
cities, and also has an online tutorial, which explains a lot of the
features that were not included in version 1.2.  There were also a few
bug fixes.  If interested, send to:  S & S Publishing * PO Box 552
Lemont, IL 60439, and request the free upgrade.

Hope this helps.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3508
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/17/93  1:18a
Subj: CD-Rom Dupes                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>------------------------------------------------------------------------
JL>               SHAREWARE CD-ROM DUPLICATION COMPARISONS
JL>------------------------------------------------------------------------
JL>          Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.0


You copycat!  8)  I hope you don't get as much griping and complaining
as I got when I posted these!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3509
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93  1:18a
Subj: PRECISION MAPPING UPDATE!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD
  ---------------------------------------------------------------------
                            >>> UPDATE! <<<

TITLE:  Precision Mapping v 1.5b

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UPDATE:  Precision Mapping version 1.5b is now available!  Improvements
over version 1.2 include a much improved city and landmark search
function, along with an online tutorial!  A few minor keyboard control
bugs have also been fixed, along with a few additional features.  This is
the latest release of this fantastic mapping system, and is now even more
awesome, with improved performance and new features!  Note: For those who
have already purchased version 1.2, you may trade it in for a free upgrade
to version 1.5b.  Please contact us at 509-457-2892 for more info.
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DESCRIPTION:  A complete, detailed map of the United States, with search,
edit, draw, and print capabilities.  ZOOM in on any city, right down to
the zip code, area code, or even street!  Look up addresses, measure
distances, plan travel routes, print laser-quality maps, and clip images
for import to other programs!  All in a user-friendly environment!

SPECIAL FEATURES:  Full CAD features with draw, edit, and control over
all presentation aspects, including text, alignment, color, line width,
etc.  OUTPUT to file (raster or vector), screen, dot matrix printer,
laser printer, or HPGL plotter.  DYNAMIC ZOOM in/out/all.  Window,
pan, scale, to any address, city, zip, or area code.  CLIP all or any
part of an image to a .PCX file for import into your favorite word
processor or DTP program.

FREEBIE:  Includes the latest edition of the American Business Phonebook
with over 10 million business listings, absolutely FREE!

REQUIREMENTS:  EGA or higher monitor, DOS 4.0+, 550K free RAM, 2MB of
expanded memory, 10MB of (temporary) hard drive space, and any ISO9660
CD-ROM drive.  Mouse recommended.

PRICE:  $88

Mike sez . . .
"If you think Street Atlas was great, wait til you see this one!  Better,
more elaborate features, and it runs under plain ol' DOS!  This mapping
program even has "Shannon Road", which is a little dirt road my dad and
uncles carved out when they planted their apple orchard.  How's that for
thoroughness!"

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3510
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93  1:18a
Subj: BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

***************************************************************************
            NEW ADULT CD'S AVAILABLE FROM STARVECTOR . . . .
***************************************************************************

 Busty Babes 3.0...............33.00    After Dark Trilogy (movies)...45.00
 All Beauties..................36.00    Southern Beauties.............35.00
 Amateur Models................35.00    Dirty Talk (movie)............59.00
 Seymore Butts Interactive.....49.00    Girls of Vivid 1 or 2.........45.00

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3511
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93  1:19a
Subj: CD PACKAGE DEALS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                       +-------------------------+
  CHECK                |   SPECIAL BONUS OFFER   |     GET A FULL 650MB
                       +-------------------------+     OF RECENT SHAREWARE
     THIS              |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0    |     FOR
                       |     REVISED EDITION     |          ONLY
        OUT !!         |    SHAREWARE CD ONLY    |
                       |  $4.00  W/ PURCHASE OF  |         4   BUCKS!
           ----------> |    ANY PACKAGE DEAL!    |         ----------
                       +-------------------------+

-------------[ CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS ]------------------------------------

1. Night Owl 7.0     2. Storm 1     3. Southern Beauties     4. Hot Pix 3
   Night Owl 8.0        Storm 2        All Beauties             Hot Pix 4
   Night Owl 9.0        Storm 3        Amateur Models           Hot Pix 5
   -------------        -------        --------------           ---------
   $69                  $69            $95                      $85


       5. Night Owl 8.0     6. Night Owl 9     7. All Beauties
          Night Owl 9.0        Pier 2             Southern Beauties
          -------------        ------             -----------------
          $55                  $59                $65


8. Up All Night            9. Empire Clipart             10. Pier 2
   Super CD 2                 Clipart Heaven                 SW Vault 2
   So Much Shareware 3        Encyclopedia of Clipart        SW Studio 2
   -------------------        -----------------------        -----------
   $63                        $59                            $65


11. CD Winbox      12. House of Games     13. Busty Babes     14. Storm 2
    Windows 93         Game Arena             Ecstasy             Storm 3
    ----------         ----------             -------             -------
    $44                $35                    $55                 $49


15. Fantazia Fonts         16. Porkware 1       17. Compton's Interactive
    Fontmaster 2               Porkware 2           U.S. Atlas MPC
    Too Many Typefonts         All Beauties         Learning Adventure
    ------------------         ------------         ------------------
    $49                        $89                  $129


PLUS, AN ADDED BONUS . . . . .

               WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3512
  To: STEVE GERWECK                            Date: 08/18/93 12:00a
Subj: SOME NEW ADULT CD'S!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SG> MS> Busty Babes 3.0...............33.00

SG>You released a message on 8/5 that you were selling BB 3 for $25.  What
SG>happened???

Oops, you're right.  I had the price from Busty 2.0 attached to release
3.0.  Thanks Steve . . . the correct price is $25.00.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 3513
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 08/17/93  6:29a
Subj: Re: Sound Sample CD-ROM D               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->      I don't yet know the contents of this disc, but SHAREWARE STUDIO
-> is going to press this week, and should contain a good bit of what yo
-> looking for.
->
->      The Shareware Studio series is published by
->
->           DATA EXPRESS, INC.
->           6799 Windfaire Drive
->           Norcross, GA 30093
->
->           (404) 621-9210
->
->      Most of the vendors who advertise in this Net will probably have
-> for sale within a few weeks.
->
->      I have been very satisfied with the previous two discs in the se
-> and some of my own MIDI files have been included on the third volume.
Okay! Keep me posted :)

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 3514
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 08/17/93  6:33a
Subj: Chestnut's Sound Sensatio               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Chestnut: Sound Sensations CD-ROM
->
-> Unfortunately, the disc is comprised mostly of files dating from 1991
-> earlier.  MIDI support is almost non-existant, and the disc organizat
-> awful.
->
-> Each program appears on the disc twice, in zipped and unzipped format
-> There are thousands of sub-directories on the disc, as each program i
-> own sub-directory.  The disc, in my humble opinion, is a waste of tim
Yeah, I mostly wanted MIDI files,,, I have a couple .mod players and an
.iff converter.
Why are they zipped and regular? Trying to pitifully fill the disc?

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3515
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 08/18/93  7:01a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> I'm still looking for a used copy of 7th Guest for $35 shipped.  If it's
> still legal to play computer games, of course.
Hi Carlos,
We do have it for $40 new.
 
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX

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From: BRAD SCHNEIDER                         Number: 3516
  To: HARRY WHEAT                              Date: 08/17/93 11:18a
Subj: 6 Disk CD-Program                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well, I run a Pioneer 6Disk changer on my system using a cdrom door called
rombrain. I would deffinately recommend it. I have it on request - 1:2605/617 -
FREQ ROMBRAIN and BRAINEX.


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From: THE BLACK SOUL                         Number: 3517
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/17/93  6:12p
Subj: Cd-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Could you please send me a catalog of your Cd-Rom List?
   J. Warakomski
   4 GreenWood Ct.
   Somerville, Nj
   08876


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3518
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93  3:00p
Subj: WANTED: Dealers!!!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

==========>>>>>>  W A N T E D     D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========

  Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers

                   Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
                         Darrel Rivenbark

  Cheapest Prices around !!!!

                                        1-800-865-5354
=================================================================

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3519
  To: ALAN WILLIAMS                            Date: 08/17/93  1:07p
Subj: ADULT TITLES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>-> APPARENTLY THERE ARE MORE THAN DAVE REEDS THAN JUST I

>That may be a bit excessive.....after several years of BBSing I have now
>encountered two other users who have the same name and spelling as I do.

We have a Davie Lee Reed as the Sysop of a local area BBS over this way - not
in FidoNet YET....

>use the same BBS system, obviously one of us has to  alter our name in order
>for both of us to use the system, since only a  single registration is
>permitted per system under a given user name.

True of most software, NOT true of all....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Bigamy: too many wives. Monogamy: not enough wives.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3520
  To: STEVE JONES                              Date: 08/17/93  1:08p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST AND MIT                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Does SBPRO effectively run a Mitsumi CD-ROM, without needing a separate CD-ROM
>drive host adapter?
>Same question applies to SBPRO ASP/16...

The Mitsumi can NOT be run by the SB Pro ANY MODEL. it can only be run by IT's
OWN card, one ATI sound card, and a Gravis or Galaxy (???) sound card.


 * SLMR 2.1a * AIDS is a virus; Bill Clinton is a punishment from Hell!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3521
  To: HARRY WHEAT                              Date: 08/17/93  1:10p
Subj: 6 DISK CD-ROM CHANGER                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I am looking for a BBS program that will run a 6 disk Cd-rom changer on a BBS.

Just about ANY DOS-based BBS program should be able to work with a 6-pack
changer - though a BBS program like TBBS with built-in specific support for
CD-ROM drives will work better....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Clinton Cruise Lines - we're taking America for a ride!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3522
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/17/93  1:12p
Subj: MITSUMI                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to work with QEMM.

My Mitsumi has worked with QEMM since day one - LOADHIed on the driver part of
the time, MSCDEX always LOADHIed....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Robert Anson Heinlein, RIP, your name IS remembered....

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3523
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 08/18/93 10:43a
Subj: Re: Trade adult CD for Adult            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 15 Aug 93  13:55:00, I heard Max Green shout to Kevin Plummer:

MG>  RB>  hello i have  xxx extreme if your still interested.
MG>  RB>              leave me mail
MG>  RB>                      ROBERT A BIR
MG> 
MG>   Hello Robert.  I have Hot Pix Volume #5.  Would consider an
MG>   even trade.  We pick up our own shipping.  If interested
MG>   send you CD, I will do the same when I get your address.
MG>       My address:
MG>           Max Green
MG>           399 Westmeade Dr.
MG>           Gretna, LA. 70056
MG> 

I feel you sent this to the WRONG person.

                   .....|<evin

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3524
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/18/93 10:56a
Subj: Night Owl 9 $25                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                  N i g h t   O w l   9 . 0
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 ***********           $ 25.00 a Copy !!!               ***********
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 *********               Ask for Barney                   *********
 ***********           ------------------               ***********
 *********               1-800-638-5757                   *********
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 *********           We Will NOT be out Sold              *********
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                  N i g h t   O w l   9 . 0

* Plus shipping and Handling of Course
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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 3525
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/17/93 11:01p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Special.... for 1 week I'm offering used Hitachi 3500
 > internal cd rom drives
 > for $99.   I have about 20 left.  30 day warranty included.

Terry, are these the ones that need the proprietary controller card ?

Vikki

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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 3526
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/18/93 11:42a
Subj: 2 ROMS FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >                       U.S. History on CD-Rom
 >                       Microsoft Bookshelf (CD-ROM)

I'm interested.
Can you tell me more about the US History one ?

Vikki

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From: REX RODGERS                            Number: 3527
  To: PAUL SWIDER                              Date: 08/13/93  8:56p
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Adult CD's
BY: Paul Swider to Ron Coleman on Tue Aug 10 1993 09:55 pm

 >  On 08-08-93 Ron Coleman wrote to All...
 > 
 >  RC> Can someone tell me a good quality Adult Cd that has Gif's and
 >  RC> animations for
 >  RC> a reasonable cost like around $30 to $40 ? Or any one have a used one
 > 
 > Ron, How's $12.95 plus $6.00 postage / handling sound ? Call a place called
 > Profit Publishing 1-800-843-7990 and ask for T & A to the Max ($12.95). Whil
 > you are at it ask for their free (with every order) Demo disk. It has a grea
 > CDBENCH program on it, along with a bit of everything else (no X rated on th
 > demo). I saw the ad in the Aug. Computer Shopper and got it. Worth the price
 > Hope this helps. >Paul<
 > 
 > ... OFFLINE 1.50  "What if there were no hypothetical situations?"
 > 
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I also bought one of those disks amd also the Fao colection (3 DISKS) I
recomened all of them!!
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From: DAN HATTERICK                          Number: 3528
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/14/93  8:46p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WT>Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to work
WT>with QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and should be able to be moved
WT>around by QEMM.  Perplexed beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.
WT>Any ideas would help.
WT>* SPITFIRE v3.3

Yup you need another drink.I have 2 Mitsumis and 2 Hitatchis on the same
computer.They all load high.They all work fine.Im using the non DMA Mitsumi
driver and they are still faster than the Hitatchis.
I switched to Dos 6 and couldnt get much free mem with all my drivers.So I put
the Qemm line in my Config.sys so now its just like running total Qemm except
for Dos commands.  -Dan

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From: JIM ORCHARD                            Number: 3529
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/18/93  6:57p
Subj: multi-speed cd-rom                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a good (new condition) multi-spin cd-rom drive I would
prefer it if it came with a controller also. I have heard that the NEC
drives are the best, unfortunatly also the most expensive. Anyone care
to enlighten me?


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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3530
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 08/18/93 11:20a
Subj: Aussie needs help...                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Patrick!


 PR> Ok, I'm willing.....

 PR>  How to contact me; Internet - patrick.rosenheim@bcs.info.bus.org, or
 PR>  Phone: (508) 750-6600, or FAX: (508) 777-3404, or simply reply here!

Okay, Thanks for getting back to me. My FAX Number is 61-46-471-499, VOICE
number at work is 61-46-471-625. Postal address is:

                     P.O. Box 242
                     Campbelltown
                     NSW 2560
                     Australia....

We have a location 45 minutes drive from the heart of Sydney, and we are a
major distributor for a number of BBS networks. both factors combined we
believe we are assured of good turnover.

Regs,

Mark Smith


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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3531
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/18/93 11:23a
Subj: Aussie Needs help...                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Doug!

Sunday August 15 1993 20:26, Doug Carpenter wrote to Mark Smith:

 DC> We have pretty good prices and would be glad to work with you on selling
 DC> CDs in Australia.  Do you have a fax?

Okay, Thanks for getting back to me. My FAX Number is 61-46-471-499, VOICE
number at work is 61-46-471-625. Postal address is:

                     P.O. Box 242
                     Campbelltown
                     NSW 2560
                     Australia....

We have a location 45 minutes drive from the heart of Sydney, and we are a
major distributor for a number of BBS networks. both factors combined we
believe we are assured of good turnover.

Regs,

Mark Smith


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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3532
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/18/93 11:39a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Boris!

Monday August 16 1993 00:57, Boris Osadciw wrote to All:

 BO>  *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
 BO> Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
 BO> Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
 BO> Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
 BO> Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
 BO> Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
 BO> Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
 BO> Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
 BO> Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
 BO>   ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759


Okay, If you are interested in selling via me in Australia then please contact
me, My FAX Number is 61-46-471-499, VOICE number at work is 61-46-471-625.
Postal address is:

                     P.O. Box 242
                     Campbelltown
                     NSW 2560
                     Australia....

We have a location 45 minutes drive from the heart of Sydney, and we are a
major distributor for a number of BBS networks. both factors combined we
believe we are assured of good turnover.

Regs,

Mark Smith


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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 3533
  To: MATT PETERSON                            Date: 08/18/93  3:40p
Subj: Mitsumi LU005 CDROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (16 Aug 93) Matt Peterson wrote to All...

 MP> I was wondering if someone out there could tell me if it is a good
 MP> deal
 MP> to get a Mitsumi LU005 Internal ISA CD-ROM drive for $225, or does
 MP> anyone out there have a cheaper source?  Or is that a good deal.

 MP> Thanx
 MP>  Matthew Peterson
 MP>  mpeterso@nyx.cs.du.edu

We offer that Mitsumi CD-Rom player for $190.00. If you are
interested, please give us a call.

-=- The Storage Specialists
-=- 9400 W. 51st Avenue
-=- Arvada, CO 80002
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From: RAY LEUNG                              Number: 3534
  To: TONY DAVIS                               Date: 08/18/93  6:52a
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TD> Oklahoma. The BBS had 16 CD Roms, 4 of which were 'adult'. They we
TD>Storm 2 & 3, and Busty Babes.  According to the officers that arres
TD>anything that shows 'penatration' is obscene by State statute.
TD> 

I find it so strange that a natural act such as sex (which 99.9% of
humans do) is considered obscene, yet movies like (Friday the 13th,
Texas chainsaw massacre etc) are NOT considered obscene.  Are our 
leaders saying that it's ok to go around and hack, slash and kill
people?  Aren't these law makers hippocrates?  They're trying to 
ban people from seeing something that they themselves do with their
wives/husbands.  Perhaps someone should do something 'correct' and
put out a CD full of scenes of death (real ones too).
   
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From: JIM REED                               Number: 3535
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/18/93  6:04p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE>@ORIGIN :Southern Pride BBS 1:151/151                                N
RE>-> CK> WT> Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't
RE>-> CK> WT> seem to work with QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and
RE>-> CK> WT> should be able to be moved around by QEMM.  Perplexed
RE>-> CK> WT> beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.  Any ideas would
RE>-> CK> WT> help.

RE>Heres my config I run 3 of them with QEMM without a hitch

RE>DEVICE=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
RE>DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS R:2 RAM ST:M
RE>DOS=HIGH,UMB
RE>SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ /E:768 /p DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2
RE>C:\DOS\RAMDRIVE.SYS 1024 /E rem DEVICE=C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.SYS 2048
RE>DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 C:\X00.SYS E b,0,38400 rem
RE>DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\IBMAUX2.SYS /X DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS
/
RE>\DEV\MTMCDD.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:0 /M:2 /T:3 /I:5
DEVICE=c:\qemm\loadhi.
RE>/r:2 \dev2\mtmcds.sys /d:mscd002 /p:348 /a:0 DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2
RE>\DEV2\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD003 /P:340 /A:0

Hi Rebel;
        Thanks for the reply but the original message was from Wes Tapp
        so I'll carbon him on this reply.
                                /JIM/

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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 3536
  To: RON THOMPSON                             Date: 08/18/93 12:37p
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RT>   If you are Computer Works, I just received a catalog in today's 
RT> mail.If not, please disregard this message.
 
I am CoSysOp of Computer Works.  Glad you got your catalog. 
 
                                           Mark
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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 3537
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 08/17/93 12:42a
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

VS>->
VS>->   Hey, Vito.  We'll try to get one to you as soon as we can.  Thanks
VS>->  for replying.
VS>->                                                Mark

VS>Please let me know as sson as you get some cd+g's.  My number is
VS>(305)782-2631
 
  Hmm, sorry Vito, but when I said "get you one", I was  referring to 
 a catalog of our CD's, but I will see about a CD+G disk.  Sorry for 
 the confusion.
 
                                                 Mark
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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 3538
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/18/93  1:28p
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PR> If you are interested in Busty Babes Vol#1 I have it! You can
 PR> give me a call at 512-939-9822 or leave a message. It's really my
 PR> husbands but what's his is mine and what's mine is mine :) Pat

Hi Pat-

I'm interested. Please verify its availbility still + price via Netmail (if
possible) or here. If interested I'll contact you by phone. -Thank
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From: DYLAN GORDON                           Number: 3539
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/18/93 11:01a
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        I'm looking for a G-RATED CD of GIf's....  I think Gif's Galore would
be good, but does anyone know of a Good one?

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From: MARK GLENN                             Number: 3540
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/15/93  7:11p
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ> Does ANYONE recall reading my review of Busty Babes Release 3.0?? If not


BJ> recreate it and re-post.

Please recreate it and send it to me 1:290/17 Mark Glenn

 * WCE 1.10/2159 * Not a computer nerd; merely a techno-weenie.


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From: ED KELLERMANN                          Number: 3541
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/18/93  4:27p
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris,
  Pardon my seeming stupidity, but what is the difference between a Pioneer 
DMR600 and a DMR604X changer ?  Do you also sell them bundled with the
appropriate drivers, and a SCSI card, cables, etc set up for external ?

                        thanks

                               Ed Kellermann,  Sysop

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3542
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 08/18/93 10:35p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  PR> Have Busty #1, know any one that wants to buy it?
 >  PR>                     Pat Rickerson
 >  PR>                     512-939-7095

 > Sure do, me. How much you asking? If its Ver.#1
 > release#1 that is. You can tell by if its lacking the
 > Text directorys. -Thank

It is the #1 Busty Babes, and it has no Text directorys.
I am taking bids on it, and want to sell it real soon. So far every one that
has quoted a price hasn't called back except one and he offered $275.00. Call
if you are intrested.
                                Thanks Pat
                       # 512-939-9822
                              New Number!

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From: JONATHAN AVIS                          Number: 3543
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/17/93  3:03p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to All, Terry Blount said:

 > Special.... for 1 week I'm offering used Hitachi 3500
 > internal cd rom drives for $99.   I have about 20 left.  30
 > day warranty included.   205-824-2552


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    Terry,
How much would it cost to ship one of these babies all the way to Nanoose Bay,
BC, Canada?
                    Jon Avis

PS- My Adress is:      Box 16 RR#1 Morello Rd.,
                       Nanoose Bay, BC.
                       VOR 2RO

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From: TYLER MIELNICHUK                       Number: 3544
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 08/18/93  3:24p
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Is the drive still for sale? I live on vancouver island. I'm interested in the
drive if you still have it? Does it include any disks? Even if it doesn't i'll
still consider it. Later.

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From: TYLER MIELNICHUK                       Number: 3545
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/18/93  3:29p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi, i'm interested in buying a used CD-ROM drive (external) and a SB-PRO as a
controller. I'm new to CD-ROM's so i'll need all the docs and junk. If it comes
with two or three C.D's that would be great too. Have Thunderboard (SB, Adlib,
MIDI compatible) for trade or for consideration on the price of CD-ROM etc.
Also have Non- CD games as well. Please Contact me soon.

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3546
  To: STEVE GERWECK                            Date: 08/19/93  2:03a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=>> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Vito Servideo <=-

 BO>> Yes, version 1.0 volume 3.0 ! Interested, give us a call at the above
 BO>> number and we'll be happy to help you out.

>>    How much is shipping and handling?


>>    Steve

The cost is $5. if you charge your order and $7. if we need to ship
C.O.D.

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happpy
to help.

NOTE: Vol3.0 will not be available after September. This is ( from what I'am
told ) the last run.

Boris Osadciw

... I married the Mail Lady!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3547
  To: B.A. CROWELL                             Date: 08/19/93  2:03a
Subj: Re: Drives                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Boris,
>>         Do you sell CDROM Drives?  If so do you have one that
>>         will handle 6 CDs at a time and How many $.


>>     Thanks,

Sure do! The DMR600 is priced at $799. and the DMR604X is priced at
$1199. This is for the bare unit and doesn't come with an interface
card nor shielded cable. If you need these, we can help here as well.
Give us a call at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3548
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/19/93  2:03a
Subj: Re: Sound Sample CD-ROM D               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->> >>    I am looking for a CD-ROM with .mid .voc .wav and even .iff
->> >>    and .mod Can anybody tell me if one exists, and if so where I
->> >>    can get one? Thanks in advance :)
->> >>    Henry
->>
->>
->> We have a disk called " Soundware " that offer's all of the above and
->> more and is BBS ready as well. It claims to be the largest selection
->> of sound files in the world.
>>    Could you give some examples of what is on it?

This cd contains the largest selection of sound files found on cd. It has
over 10,000 selections, some ready to play. You can find everything from
MIDI, WAV, MOD as well as many SB files. If you can't find something on this
cd, you'll not find it anywhere. It's also a BBS ready cd as well.

Interested, please feel free to give us a call anytime at 216-225-3263 and
we'll be happy to assist you further.


>>    Also, what other disks do you have?
>>    Do you have any MPC programs too?


We handle over 500+ titles and yes many of them are MPC and Multimedia.

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 3549
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/19/93  4:20a
Subj: Precision Mapping                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Aug 17 01:18>, Mike Shannon of 1:3407/101 writes:
 MS> Michael,

 MS> If you want, you can send this in to S&S for a free upgrade to 
 MS> version
 MS> 1.5b.  It has an improved search utility that now includes a 
 MS> whole list of
 MS> cities, and also has an online tutorial, which explains a lot of 
 MS> the
 MS> features that were not included in version 1.2.  There were also 
 MS> a few
 MS> bug fixes.  If interested, send to:  S & S Publishing * PO Box 
 MS> 552
 MS> Lemont, IL 60439, and request the free upgrade.
Thanks Mike, but I had already sent in both copies that I had. The new version
was much easier to use and the tutorial was a great help. I have already sold
the extra one.
Michael Sells

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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 3550
  To: LESLIE THOMAS                            Date: 08/19/93  2:58p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Leslie,
     The Mitsumi that I am selling does have its own interface card and works
well together with the SBPRO.  To connect them I had to buy a special wire.  If
you are interested in buying it, please give me a call at (614) 363-8201 or
leave another message here.  

     I also have eleven CDs that I'd like to sell with it.  Thanks!
                                                                Greg


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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 3551
  To: WILLIAM E GOSSETT                        Date: 08/19/93  3:04p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi William,
     The Mitsumi that I'm selling is internal.  I have the following CDs:
        The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
        1992 Guinness Disk of Records: Multimedia Version
        Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume I
        The Software Jukebox: Home and Entertainment Edition
        VGA Spectrum
        Original Shareware 1992
        MPC Wizard with Media Clips
        Introduction to Nautilus
        Phoenix Shareware CD: Version 2.0
        Sample This!
        The Future is Now!

     As for pricing?  Make an offer.  I'm pretty reasonable.  If you are
interested, give me a call at (614) 363-8201 or leave another message here.    
                                             Thanks!
                                                Greg

        

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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 3552
  To: MATT PETERSON                            Date: 08/19/93  3:14p
Subj: Mitsumi LU005 CDROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have an internal Mitsumi drive, 11 CDs, and a SoundBlaster Pro card that make
a great multimedia system.  It works fine with my 386/33 system.  I'm asking
$600 for the whole thing, but I'll listen to any reasonable offers.  If you are
interested give me a call at (614) 363-8201 or leave a message here.
                                                Thanks,
                                                      Greg


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 3553
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/18/93  6:21a
Subj: 7th Guest $40                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Ismail!

Monday August 16 1993, Ismail Arslangiray writes to All:

 IA> For a limited time 7th Guest $40 plus shipping. ($3 US, $6 international).

Is this the full, retail version with box and video, or is it the "cheap"
version with disc only?



... "If you can fake honesty... you've got it made!" (Bill Clinton)

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From: BILL ALEXANDER                         Number: 3554
  To: JOHN TRIMBACK                            Date: 08/19/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: CDROM Drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

John,


If you will guarantee against DOA you can ship them COD to:

509 Pine Ridge Ln.
Aubrey, TX 76227

Let me know how much the total is going to be. If you wish to call to talk to
me about the transaction, my # is 817-440-3262 or 817-365-9045.


Thanks a bunch!

Bill

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 3555
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/20/93  8:13a
Subj: New Echo - Multimedia                   Refer: 6938
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> This echo also can be ported to any other sister nets and RIME.

If you use the FIDOnet nodelist, you have to adhear to FIDOnet
policy - policy that prevents cross posting mail in multiple networks.
RIME has similar policy, too.

The nodelist can only be used to "participate in FIDOnet"... This is
clearly stated at the beginning of the nodelist.  If you use the
nodelist for any other purpose, you'll be violating Tom Jenning's
copyright.  You probably don't care, based on your past business
practices.

tim
moderator
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From: JIM LAWHON                             Number: 3556
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93 10:19a
Subj: Texel/Toshiba Questions                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

- Will the Texel DM3024 run off an Adaptec 1542b SCSI controller under OS/2?
- Is the 3024 multi-session and XA capable under OS/2?
- What is included with the drive?  Mounting kit, cables, caddies etc?
- Is anyone here selling the Texel 3024 for less than $339(US)+s&h?
- If so,  How much is shipping and handling?  Via/how?
          What are the return/repair/warranty terms

- Is anyone here selling the Toshiba 3401b for less than $399(US)+s&h?
- Is the 3401 multi-session and XA capable under OS/2?
- What is included with the drive?  Mounting kit, cables, caddies etc?
- If so,  How much is shipping and handling?  Via/how?
          What are the return/repair/warranty terms?

- Is there any reason why one of the above shouldn't be used on a BBS?
- How much are extra caddies for the above system?  

I have the $$$ and will be purchasing one or the other within the next couple
of weeks.  If you are a dealer competitive with the above pricing and prefer to
deal privately or by voice, you may contact me via netmail at the address
below.

                                      regards,
                                              Jim

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From: CAM LERCH                              Number: 3557
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/18/93  9:27a
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Sorry they are gone.  If you want to send me your phone
 > number I'll call you if I get any more.

Hey... I've been looking for one for my BBS.. Are they 650ms? Do they include
the control card? Well, my numbers 604-248-4262.... Yes Canada.. If you get
anymore can you please call me.. Thanks for your time..

**Cam**

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From: DAVID NAFFIS                           Number: 3558
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/19/93  4:35p
Subj: Sound Sample CD-ROM Disc                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       Do you mean order it from somewhere else? If so, sure you can get it
lots of other places. One place that may have it and is probably cheap is
Crazy Bob's 1-800-776-5865.

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From: DAVID HARRISON                         Number: 3559
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 08/19/93  1:31p
Subj: Re: Night Owl 9 $25                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KP>                   N i g h t   O w l   9 . 0
KP>  ******************************************************************
KP>  *********                                                *********
KP>  ***********           $ 25.00 a Copy !!!               ***********
KP>  *********                                                *********
KP>  ***********                                            ***********
KP>  *********               Ask for Barney                   *********
KP>  ***********           ------------------               ***********
KP>  *********               1-800-638-5757                   *********
KP>  ***********                                            ***********
KP>  *********           We Will NOT be out Sold              *********
KP>  ***********                                            ***********
KP>  ******************************************************************
KP>                   N i g h t   O w l   9 . 0
I am curious as to what Night Own 9.0 consist of... Specs, Megs, Types of
Files, and if it has all files.bbs installed?

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From: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN                      Number: 3560
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/19/93 11:09a
Subj: RED HOT CDROM Specials                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Digital Dreams/Southern Beauties/Amatuer Models................  69.95

Is this a 3-pack special?

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 3561
  To: KEN TULLY                                Date: 08/17/93  5:04p
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROMS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hiya, Ken!
On Aug 16, Ken Tully spake thusly to Sandeleh Francis @ 910/529:

 SF@9>> Hiya, Ken!
 SF@9>> On Aug 08, Ken Tully spake thusly to Keith Sheehan:

 KT>> will be BBS ready for both PCBoard, and Files.bbs 
 SF@9>> i'm a sysop and i would MUCH rather wait for a disk 
 SF@9>> that will "self-install" than do it myself!  
 SF@9>> <shudder>  simtel is still sitting here uninstalled 
 SF@9>> cuz i have not the time to do it...

 KT> Thank you for the input Sandeleh.  Your opinion is 
 KT> appreciated, and noted.  As much as I'd like to release the 
 KT> disk now, I agree with you and will try to put it off until 
 KT> the front end is ready.

heh - keep me in mind, ken, i like to get new CDs for the bbs... <g>



\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2

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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 3562
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 08/18/93  9:59a
Subj: Slow delivery                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Patrick, I still haven't received my CD-ROM yet.  Today is Wednesday,
the 18th of August.  I mailed you a money order on July 22nd.

You had called me, got my voice mail, and I called you back and got
your answering machine.  Then we finally spoke last Tuesday, the 10th
of August.  You said you had been very busy and had in fact just
sent the disk on Monday, along with about 20 something others.

If you did send it, I should have received it by now. I am concerned
that it may have been lost - how was it sent?  Thanks for your
response.  If I happen to get it before Friday (the earliest I can
expect a reply via this echo) I will post another message. You
can of course call the same number and leave a message.



... The Joy of (WP) Six
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
                                                                               
                                               
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3563
  To: STEVE KISER                              Date: 08/19/93  7:25p
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks! Maybe Lee's node dropped the packet or something. 
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3564
  To: DOUG SNELL                               Date: 08/19/93  7:26p
Subj: BB3 Review                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You're more than welcome, Doug. Lee's promised to let me review her  upcoming
releases as well!! Watch for 'em... 
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3565
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 08/19/93  7:27p
Subj: X Movie Review CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Gracias, amigo! 
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: JOHN TUTTON                            Number: 3566
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/18/93  1:21p
Subj: $99 CD-ROM DRIVES                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     Terry, I just got the shipment of the four CD-ROM drives that I purchased
from you.  They look great.  However, I think you may have over-charged me $4
(I think you rounded the $99 up to $100).  It's no big deal, but hey, $4 is $4.
 Before you send me a check, tell me about the special that you were having on
that Shareware CD.  Also, how much are extra caddies?  Thanks.
   
John Tutton (916)392-JOHN

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From: RICK DUNLAP                            Number: 3567
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/18/93 11:48p
Subj: Catalog Request                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Would you please send me your current catalog at:

Rick Dunlap
750 Warfield #605
Oakland, Ca. 94610

I've done business with you several times.  I just moved to the San
Francisco Bay area.  You probably have my address as Memphis, Tn.

Thanks,

Rick Dunlap

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From: RICK DUNLAP                            Number: 3568
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/18/93 11:51p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To any CD-Rom distributors.  I would be interested in recieving CD-Rom
catalogs.

Send to:

Rick Dunlap
750 Warfield #605
Oakland, Ca. 94610

Thanks...

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3569
  To: DOUG HUNKELE                             Date: 08/19/93  1:56a
Subj: adult cd                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

14 Aug 93 20:36, Doug Hunkele wrote to All:

 DH> is. What SWIMSUIT CDs are legal for posting on a bbs?? -+- Synchronet

In most Muslim countries (and in Fundamentalist Oklahoma <grin>) none.

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3570
  To: CHRIS WISE                               Date: 08/19/93  1:44a
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CW>    There is a new driver out for Mitsumi which will allow qemm to load the
 CW> driver high.  If you can not find it you can find it at the bulletin
board
 CW> listed below!   later.
 CW>  + Origin: SelectiveSource*Internet*VaBeach,VA*(804)471-6776
(1:275/102.0)

Is it FReqable?  What's the filename?

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3571
  To: STEPHEN THOMPSON                         Date: 08/19/93  1:48a
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TB>> Sorry they are gone.  If you want to send me your phone number I'll

 ST> I would like to get on your waiting list.  I've never such a price and it
 ST> sounds like the perfect way to put CD ROM on my BBS.  My name is Stephen

Why?  $99 for the drive + $60 for the controller = $160 for a used 600ms
drive.
For $175 you can buy a *new* 350ms drive with a warranty.

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3572
  To: TERRY GREENMAN                           Date: 08/19/93  3:41p
Subj: WizPak                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

07 Aug 93 20:27, Terry Greenman wrote to All:

 TG> The WIZ-PAK 6-pak CD-ROM disk, over 170 programs, VGA pain prog
 TG> animations, arcade and educational and much, much, more....

So there are about 28 programs on each disc?  What do you mean by "VGA pain"?

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 3573
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93  2:47p
Subj: scsi cdrom                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



SCSI CDROMs For Sale:

Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00

Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac.  Features 50 Pin True SCSI, 
300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and 64k Buffer.
Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty

205-837-5053 anytime.




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From: ROEL SARCENO                           Number: 3574
  To: TONY MACE                                Date: 08/19/93  7:06p
Subj: New Idea !                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Tony,

RS> will send a file (price list) to a certain node.  For this examp
RS> we will assume a node address of 1:9999/9999.  Node 1:999/9999 w

TM>I would be willing....  I have the space and the time.....

There are several SysOp who replied.  Tell me more about your system
How much disk space?  ARe you a programmer?  Will you be able to import
and export echomail into a text file?

Call me at (916)464-1538.  This is my work number from 9am to 5:30pm PST

Roel


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From: ROEL SARCENO                           Number: 3575
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/19/93  7:12p
Subj: New Echo - Multimedia                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ismail,

-> I have started a new echo area called MULTIMEDIA
-> I will do the initial feeding, if you like to get linked, please send
-> mail and I will start feeding your node.

I'm interested.  1:203/1316

Thank's
Roel


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From: ROEL SARCENO                           Number: 3576
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/19/93  7:24p
Subj: Encyclopedia                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris Osadciw

Do you have any Encyclopedia, Road maps and games on CD ROM that can be
use as a on-line door.  I'm not looking for files they can download by
something they can actually run online with the bbs.  I would also
like to know if it's legal or if it's for personal use.


Thank's
Roel


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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3577
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 08/19/93  9:16p
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I'm interested. Please verify its availbility still +
 > price via Netmail (if possible) or here. If interested
 > I'll contact you by phone. -Thank

It is still here waiting for a new home! The price is what we can come up with,
to make both us happy! If you like you can call 512-939-9822
                                       Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3578
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/19/93  9:23p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > * In a message originally to All, Terry Blount said:

 >> Special.... for 1 week I'm offering used Hitachi 3500
 >> internal cd rom drives for $99.   I have about 20 left.  30
 >> day warranty included.   205-824-2552


I really need TWO if there is any left, or one if thats all is left. Can you
please send them COD if possible.
                            Pat Rickerson
                          411 Ninth St. NAS
                          Corpus Christi, Tx. 78418
                            phone # 512-939-9822

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 3579
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/18/93  6:53a
Subj: 2 ROMS FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AJ>I have a couple of CD's that I am willing to trade or sell.

AJ>                      U.S. History on CD-Rom

                         $10 is offered.

 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ MSI - Redefining Telecommunications in '93


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 3580
  To: SHANE HEDRICK                            Date: 08/18/93  6:54a
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SH>          FOR SALE OR TRADE:

SH>                 Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective

SH>          Will consider all offers.

      $10 is offered
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ WILDCAT! BBS þ QmodemPro þ Off-Line Xpress: Perfection!


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From: DONALD GORDON CRAIG                    Number: 3581
  To: TERRY HAUNT                              Date: 08/19/93 12:57a
Subj: Hitach 3500 cards and cable             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Terry...how much would you charge for a driver card for your model 3500
hitachi cd-roms you sell and the connecting cable for four drives?? Please
E-Mail me at 1:268/18 or reply via this message base , O.K? Thanks.....


                                 Gordon Craig
                                 Omega-BBS
                                 717-296-8560
                                 Fido-net 1:268/18

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From: KEN TULLY                              Number: 3582
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93  6:14a
Subj: Busty Ver. 1.0                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Busty Babes First Edition for sale to the highest bidder.  It is from
the first pressing.  If interested you can call me at 203-387-3174 voice, Fax
at 203-387-3306 or BBS at 203-387-3289.


                                        Ken...

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From: ART BREAULT                            Number: 3583
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/19/93  7:24p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

My mitsumi drive is model crmc-lu002 internal. My interface is ide. I did 
cheat a little in the installation because I had the installation software 
install the drive into autoexec and config then I removed the lines
concerning the software interface and add it only on a menu program
then I used qemm and quardeck managers to load all into high memory.
Almost everytime had trouble with a software cd in was due to lack of
memory on the low end .Example on my disc Great Literature a file named
discpack must load into low memory or the cd will act like it doesnt 
exist. Without the file properly loaded the drive doesnt understand the 
data on the disc. With the software access file installed you should be
able to get a e E:\ prompt and run a dir read. Some cd rom have files that 
are 570k and that 570k must go into low memory. You can have 32meg of
memory but if only 565k are available low the cd wont read. The Comptions
upgraded encyclopedia requires 4 meg operating memory, but a certain
amount must be under 640k or base memory. Your cd rom should come up as
e:\ and print out a dir list.This means that your rom "sees" the data.
Once that is established then to "read" the cd the langage must be placed
in low memory.This file is like the read files that load into memory when
you run any program "they access the files" dos is not the langage of all
of the things on the cd and certain compressions and data reguire that
file to read.
         If you are able to come up with a e:\ drive and are able to see
the data then you are having a memory or a software problem .


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From: ART BREAULT                            Number: 3584
  To: RON MITCHELL                             Date: 08/19/93  7:54p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ron on various bbs's I have seen cd roms for sale with the scsi interface
specified. It seems that if it is specified than interface must be a
requirement on some drives accessed the way you want. Look through those 
adds and find one that designates the interface call them an ask them why
they reguire that interface. I prefer to access mine through the software
because when I boot the computer the driver doesnt take up any memory till
I use it. I have all my cd cataloged on a menu program called 3dmenu. The 
menu programs hold the dos commands in memory so that when I start a disc
the menu programloads the driver then starts the disc that way the two
files that run  the cd are not in memory till the cd in actully called 
upon.As far as using a 16 bit card I belive you can.


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From: JESS LEWIS                             Number: 3585
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93  9:13p
Subj: re: scsi controller                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for the cables and controller card for a Nec cdr25 cdrom reader
if anyone would be interested in selling such please leave me a message here.
Thank you very much,
Jess Lewis
Ps this is an external cd rom.

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From: AL BECK                                Number: 3586
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93  5:17p
Subj: Need CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone have a CD pertaining to Quick Basic?

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From: DUNCAN MEADOWS                         Number: 3587
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/19/93  6:34p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom List                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Would you please send me a copy of your catalog:

                                 Thanx:
D. Meadows
574 Mc Murray
San Antonio, Tx 78234

... Move your vowels every day or you'll get consonated  
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From: JIM NEUMILLER                          Number: 3588
  To: ZACHARY HAMM                             Date: 08/17/93 11:29p
Subj: Re: DAK CD-ROM SUPPORT                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Zachary Hamm to All <=-

 ZH> Does Anybody have the Tech Support Number for BSR for the BSR CD-ROM
 ZH> Drive that DAK sold?  DAK will not support the warranty after 30 days.


 ZH> Zack Hamm
Zack,

Do you suppose you could post me the phone number for DAK?  I haven't 
ordered in awhile....so dropped off the mailing list....

Jim



... RAM = Rarely Adequate Memory
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From: JIM NEUMILLER                          Number: 3589
  To: GREG MANTER                              Date: 08/17/93 11:44p
Subj: Re: Wanted                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Greg Manter to Leslie Thomas <=-

 GM> Leslie,
 GM> I have an MPC compatible CD-ROM drive that I run with my SBPRO. 
 GM> I also have 13 CDs that I would like to sell with it.  Please call me
 GM> at  (614) 363-8201 or leave a message here if you are interested.
 GM> Thanks. 

What are the CD's?  And what would you be asking for them?

Jim


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From: THOM JENNINGS                          Number: 3590
  To: SHANE HEDRICK                            Date: 08/18/93  8:15p
Subj: Microsoft Office                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Shane.  I see you have a couple other offers.  I think I'll pass at this time.
 The price is fair though.  Thanks for the reply.
Thom

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From: ANISH ACHARYA                          Number: 3591
  To: HARRY WHEAT                              Date: 08/19/93  4:52p
Subj: Remote Access 2.00                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Harry,
       Hello!  Just thought I'd point out that Remote-Access 2.00
       has internal support for drive switching.  Right now, RA 2.00
       is gamma (only available to Registered Users).  But I think
       the final release will be out before X-Mas.  Just though I'd
       let you know!!

               - Anish Acharya 

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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 3592
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/18/93 10:01p
Subj: Re: BB                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Steve Gerweck <=-

 BO> Well Steve, BB v1 vol1.0 is no longer available from us as we have
 BO> sold it to a buyer for $425.00. As for BB v1 vol2 it's priced at $45.
 BO> and BB v1 ver3.0 is $25.

HI Boris.. is that $25 shipped for V3?  If so, post your company's address
and I'll send you a check.  Or do you have an 800 number to charge it?


Steve


... 313-242-8792
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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 3593
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/19/93  1:32a
Subj: Busty babes, before 3                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Pat Rickerson to Bob Jackson <=-

 PR> Have Busty #1, know any one that wants to buy it?

How much?


... There once was a women from Venus, whose body was shaped....
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: GLEN MCALLISTER                        Number: 3594
  To: JEFF KAPLOW                              Date: 08/18/93  2:04p
Subj: Looking for hackers                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Jeff, 
        I'm Glen MAllister, and I've been trying desporately to get in on the
hacking seen.  I was hoping that you might know some who knows more about it.
I'm not out to hurt any one but I want to know morre about the subject.  I
would appreciat any help you could give me.
                                                Thanks,
                                               -=Glen=-


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From: GLEN MCALLISTER                        Number: 3595
  To: TONY LIM                                 Date: 08/18/93  2:10p
Subj: Looking for Hachers                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Tony,
        My name is Glen McAllister, I have been looking for some time to find
some one who is willing to talk about hacking.  I've been trying to get in on
the scene for about a year now.  If you have any information on where I can go
to get help, I would appreciat your assistence in this matter.  
                                                 Looking for trouble,
                                                        -=GLEN=-


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3596
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/18/93 10:13p
Subj: Big Sky Special                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                               ***Special*** 
                            Big Sky ROM   $26.00 
 
The price on Big Sky Rom has been reduced from $48 to $26.  This is a 
very well put together shareware disc with 668 megs and 7155 files. 
There is a file_id.diz file description in each zipped file.  The date 
of each zipped file is that of the largest file in the archive, giving a 
much more accurate representation than that of many CD-Roms currently on 
the market.  Big Sky is very popular on Computer Works BBS, and can be 
previewed online. 
 
Computer Works                                  Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
 
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From: BRUCE RICHARDS                         Number: 3597
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93  7:03a
Subj: Mitsumi Internal 350 ms / 175kb Trans Rate  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

This drive is only 2 months old, I have upgraded to a  6 disk 

Pioneer and if your  intrested in buying this drive, currently 

runs great under DOS and OS/2.


First 150.00 gets it, if you want it shipped COD, you pay the 

shipping/cod charges also.


NEtmail 1:116/73 - 615-331-6631 (eve Voice) - 615-333-8467 day

 

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From: LIEF BROOKS                            Number: 3598
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93 12:11p
Subj: Southern Beauties                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TO ALL BBS SYSOPS OVER THE AGE OF 18 & DISTRIBUTORS:

*********************** Southern Beauties **********************
--------- A FULLY COMMERCIAL -- FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC ---------
******** FOR SALE ----- $ 35.00 each ----- Quantity One ********

675 Megs-Over 65 TOP MODELS-1000 GIFs-1024x768x256 From Original
35mm Slides-Includes 300 Megs of the Best Images in 24 bit True
Color. Installs Quickly & Easily - Menu Driven - User Friendly -
Popup Help - Mouse Support - Keyword Search - Sound Blaster
Front Loader - Multiple Directory Slide Show Capability

This QUALITY DISC is NOT FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!!

Since the images on "Southern Beauties" are not available for
downloading on any BBS, you may want to make it available to your
subscribers on a mail order basis.  YOU CAN EASILY make a PROFIT
of 50% or MORE, making as much or more than you already do on
your subscription fees.

Please call 407-872-6200 for prices on quantity purchases.

To Purchase please send a check or M/O along with a statement
INDICATING YOUR AGE to:

Florida Wholesale, Inc. * Box 560563 * Orlando, FL 32856 * USA  
 
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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 3599
  To: STEVE HECKER                             Date: 08/19/93  5:42p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Blaine Richard <08-18-93 00:02> Steve Hecker wrote:

SH>   > 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256
SH>   > From Original 35mm Slides
SH>
SH>          Blaine, pardon me for asking, but why would anyone pay for a
SH>  disk filled with gifs of senior citizens ? :-)

Mr. Hecker, I don't know what YOU are looking for (teenage girls?),
but senior citizens, THE MODELS ARE NOT!  The models that appear in
"SOUTHERN BEAUTIES" are not only extremely attractive but appear
regularly in current issues of men's magazines and adult movies.
For example, Katie appears on the front cover and inside of CLUB's
October, 1993, issue and although they indicate she's 24 years old,
she is presently 19 and was 18 and 19 years old when she posed for
the images on "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES". Katie will also be in the October,
1993, issue of PENTHOUSE MAGAZINE. Crystal, Honey, and Angel are
all STARRING in current adult videos under the names Crystal Wilder
(24 years old), Bunny Blue (28 years old), and Angel Bust (23 years
old) respectively; while others are presently appearing in adult
videos.  With the exception of a few, every model has been published.

With regard to the models ages:
 Jade (19 years old) who also appears on the back cover of the disc
 Misty (18 years old) who also appears on the inside front cover
 Maria (33 years old)

According to the photographer ALL the other models are between 19
years old and 29 years old WITH 90% OF THEM BEING BETWEEN THE AGES
OF 20 and 24 YEARS OLD.  I did not want to inconvenience the
photographer for more detailed information.

I suggest if you did not find the models on "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES" to
be young enough, that you find a supplier of kiddie porn and HAVE
A GOOD TIME!  We have had complaints about the disc not being for
use on BBSs, but none about the ages of the models or the fact that
they are not attractive.

To the SYSOPS who do not like the fact that "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES" can
not be put on their BBS, we have recommended that they offer the disc
for sale on their BBS.  Many of them that followed our advice have
found that they can make more money from the sales of "SOUTHERN
BEAUTIES" than they do from subscription fees.  
 
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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 3600
  To: JEFF COCHRAN                             Date: 08/19/93  5:46p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Blaine Richard <08-15-93 13:43> Jeff Cochran wrote:

JC>   >  ********** SOUTHERN BEAUTIES MAY NOT BE USED ON ANY BBS
JC>
JC>  Kinda cuts its market...


To the SYSOPS who do not like the fact that "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES" can
not be put on their BBS, we have recommended that they offer the disc
for sale on their BBS.  Many of them that followed our advice have
found that they can make more money from the sales of "SOUTHERN
BEAUTIES" than they do from subscription fees.  
 
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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 3601
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/19/93  1:04p
Subj: X Movie Review CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> SHOWOFF is our baby now in this industry, and you will see her on
 LN> our 2 disc's coming out in September--

Would you list the cdroms FLD produces and any planned future releases.-Thank

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From: MARK GRYN                              Number: 3602
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93 11:33a
Subj: OS/2 2.0 - Mitsumi CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    Okay, I need some help here.

    I need to install a Mitsumi CD-ROM drive in somebody's machine.  No problem
I figure, 10 minutes and I'm done.  I slap the drive and the card in there,
hook up the power et all, then boot the sucker up.

    Too my horror, I see that little part of the BIOS screen on the top right
disapear as it boots up.  He's running OS/2 2.0.

    Yuck.  Obviously, this is not a 10 minute installation. After 3 hours of
playing with the gosh darn thing, I gave up.

    Basically, I tried to get it running in a DOS box, full screen dos window
actually.  Just won't happen!  Kept getting the 'Incorrect DOS version', when
it attempted to load the Mitsumi driver.

    I'm using MTMCDE v2.10, and MSCDEX v2.21.  Too bad MSCDEX won't load...

    Can someone help me?  Or...anyone got an OS/2 driver for Mitsumi drives?

    Thanks...
                                                     Mark

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From: PAT RILEY                              Number: 3603
  To: GREG MANTER                              Date: 08/19/93  9:31p
Subj: Multimedia Items For Sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     I have a slightly used Mitsumi CD-ROM drive (MPC compatible) for sale
with a SoundBlaster Pro card including MIDI connections and the following
disks:
        The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
        1992 Guinness Disk of Records: Multimedia Version
        Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume I
        The Software Jukebox: Home and Entertainment Edition
        VGA Spectrum
        Original Shareware 1992
        MPC Wizard with Media Clips
        Introduction to Nautilus
        Phoenix Shareware CD: Version 2.0
        Sample This!
        The Future is Now!


How about $150.00 plus shipping, guaranteed against DOA?

 * QMPro 1.50 41-2633 * ** Operation halted, reboot brain. **

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From: ROBERT LEE                             Number: 3604
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93  5:56a
Subj: CDROM BBS Door!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                                CDMX2DOR
                                Beta v.99
                The "Next Generation CDRom-Access BBS Door"
                        (c)1993 Robert E. Lee
                              (309)797-6027
                                  U.S.A.
                           1:232/31  8:7002/3005
                              New Century BBS
============================================================================
  A special "Thanks" to Chris Kuefler @1:3402/22Fidonet for his suggestions
                  and assistance in beta-testing CDMX2DOR.
============================================================================

        So long, ROMBRAIN, Hello CDMX2DOR!!!

        In the beginning there was CDMAXDOR, and it worked ok on some
        boards but was not capable of doing some things that it should
        and gave some folks fits.  As a result of many suggestions from
        CDMAXDOR users and other sysops, here is CDMX2DOR, a CDRom-BBS
        interface door that, I believe, you'll find to be a superior
        product.  The latest version of CDMX2DOR is available for F'Req
        at 1:232/31 as well as are a number of other doors we've written.

WHAT WILL CDMX2DOR DO?

        In a word.... EVERYTHING.

        Some features:

        o       it will work with ANY BBS software (not just MAXIMUS) that
                is capable of writing a long-style (52 line) DOOR.SYS
                drop-file, e.g., WILDCAT, PCB, GAP, etc.  If your system
                can't write a long-style DOOR.SYS, then you may still
                use this software via a door conversion program that
                makes long-style DOOR.SYS files.

        o       it will allow you to control the number of KBytes that
                a user may access from your CD's in a given day so as
                to prevent file leaching.

        o       it will allow viewing of textfiles and will unarchieve
                zips for viewing as well.

        o       it will automatically update MAXIMUS BBS user's files
                to reflect their CDRom downloads.  Other boards' auto-
                updating of user's download stats is not yet supported
                but will be (for registered users).

                If you are a Maximus BBS sysop, it will:


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From: ROBERT LEE                             Number: 3605
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93  5:57a
Subj: CDROM BBS Door!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        o       it will allow users to download files from your CD or
                HD with ease, search for files or text, and allow your
                users to unzip files on the CD for reading text files
                and other docs in zipped files.

        o       it will add your BBS comment/advertisement on outgoing
                files.

        o       it will also allow you to put your C: drive (HD) files
                within its structure for use, so CDMX2DOR can even be
                used as a complete drop-in files-transfer system working
                with CDRom drives and Hard Drives.  Tape drive interfacing
                may be supported in future versions to registered users.
                If you want to squeeze every possible drive for online
                files for your users, you can even have CDMX2DOR access
                files off your B:\ drive for an additional 1.44 meg of
                files online.

        o       it has beautiful ansi graphics and also supports non-ansi
                use.

        o       it will allow you to have as many as 34 CD's online, each
                in its own drive, from which users may select

        o       it will support CD's with as many as 99 subdirectories
                and you can break down a CD that has more than 99
                subdirectories into 2 or more sub-sets (thereby making
                CDMX2DOR capable of handling any CD regardless of its
                number of subdirectories).

        o       it is fully configureable.  It will work with:

                        o       CD's with files.bbs in separate
                                subdirectories on the CD.

                        o       CD's with dirx.lst in separate
                                subdirectories on the CD.

                        o       You can even specify what file it should
                                look for to find subdirectory listings,
                                e.g., files.bbs, dirx.lst, files.lst,
                                DIR, or whatever you have.

                        o       CD's that have their files.bbs's or
                                whatever, in a single subdirectory on
                                the CD instead of having them in each
                                subdirectory.

                        o       It will even work with CD's that don't
                                even have a files.bbs or other subdirectory

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From: TOM SUTER                              Number: 3606
  To: JOHN ROBINSON                            Date: 08/19/93 11:37p
Subj: John W. Campbell's been                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>     Maybe they'll get around to having a JWC stamp one of these years
JR>     Campbell was the father of modern Science Fiction.
JR>     He edited Astounding/Analog from 1938-1971.
JR>     But Isaac Asimov will probably have a stamp first.
JR>     Campbell was trained as an engineer.
JR>     He would have understood CD-ROMs.
JR>     [Bet you thought I was posting out of topic!] *:o)

John,

     Just to pick a nit, John W. Campbell's degree was in physics,
via MIT and Duke (but he would *still* have understood CD-ROMs).
<g,d&r>.  FWIW, Asimov had a Ph.D in Chemistry, and taught
bio-chemistry at Boston before switching to writing full-time.

     Auf wiedersehen,
     = Tom =

 * QMPro 1.01 41-0124 * Biochemists wear designer genes.

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From: JAMES BRYANT                           Number: 3607
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93  4:25p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a copy of 7th Guest and would like to trade it for Night Owl 9
and Night Owl 8.
My voice number is 619 538 0973


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From: MARK GUTT                              Number: 3608
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93  6:39a
Subj: busty babes, release #1                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a copy of the "BUSTY BABES" Volume 1, Release 1.0
thats in excellent condition (used 3 or 4 times) that I
would like to sell. If you are interested, leave your
name,an offer, and how you can be reached or you can
reach me at (414) 734-4090.


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From: MARK GUTT                              Number: 3609
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/18/93  8:55p
Subj: busty babes 1.0                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a copy of the "BUSTY BABES"
Volume 1, Release 1.0 that I would like
to sell. If you are interested, leave your
name,an offer, and how you can be reached.

                Mark 
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From: MANESH RAMA                            Number: 3610
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93 11:21a
Subj: CD-SOFTWARE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HI, I WUZ JUST WONDERING IF ANYONE OUT THERE HAS ANY CD-SOFTWARE
FOR SALE. PREFFERABLY UNDER $50.
OH YEAH I ALSO HAVE A CD OF MY OWN FOR SALE
ITS THE NIGHT OWL'S CD ver. 6
ANY OFFERS?

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From: MANESH RAMA                            Number: 3611
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/19/93 11:25a
Subj: PRECISION MAPPING UPDATE!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HEY, MIKE I WUZ JUST WONDERING IF YOU WOULD PART THAT
CD WITH ME.
I DONT HAVE THAT MUCH CASH BUT I AM WILLING TO GIVE UP
MY NIGHT OWL'S CD AND LIKE SAY $10. COME ON
MAN BE A BUD!!!!!!

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From: MANESH RAMA                            Number: 3612
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/19/93 11:28a
Subj: BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HEY, MIKE, ME AGAIN,
I WUZ JUST WONDERING IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PART
WITH ONE OF YOUR ADULT CD'S IF YOU WONT TRADE
FOR THE MAPPING ONE THEN HOW BOUT' FOR NIGHT OWLS
AND ONE OF YOUR ADULT CD'S.
COME MON MAN.

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From: MANESH RAMA                            Number: 3613
  To: MARK SMITH                               Date: 08/19/93 11:31a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HEY, MARK, HEY MAN HOW BOUT TRADING A NIGHT OWL'S CD FOR THAT
GROLIERS CD. COME ON MAN I COULD USE A GOOD A ENCYCLOPEDIA CD.
LATER

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From: TYRONE THOMASON                        Number: 3614
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 08/19/93  6:54p
Subj: MAPS CDROM Which one?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


DR> JR>  Looking for a good USA Map where I can get very detailed on street
DR> JR>  level. I was looking at these two, and I wanted to know what you
DR> JR>  guys thought about these programs.
DR> JR>              1. Precision Mapping
DR> JR>              2. Street Atlas

DR>I sell both, but personally recommend Precision Mapping.


I am considering being one of these two programs.  Can you please tell
me why you prefer Precision Mapping more?  Is it more accurate, have
more features?  Also, send a number so that I may order once I make up
my mind.

      Ty.

 * OLX 2.1 TD * This tagline is umop apisdn


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From: PAUL DIESTELHORST                      Number: 3615
  To: LARRY CHARPIAT                           Date: 08/20/93 10:20p
Subj: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


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From: PAUL DIESTELHORST                      Number: 3616
  To: LARRY CHARPIAT                           Date: 08/20/93 10:22p
Subj: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to Boris Osadciw, Larry Charpiat said:

 > That did not answer my question.  The Pioneer DMR600 will
 > hold six CD
 > ROM disk in a cassette in the one cd player.  Can you switch
 > to any of
 > the 6 CD disc's without manually pressing a button on the
 > Drive through
 > software from a menu on the BBS?

I will act as though you have 6 extra drives except of course you can't write
to them.

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From: ANDREW CHATHAM                         Number: 3617
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/20/93 12:23p
Subj: 7th Guest $40                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like a listing please:
 
 
 Andrew Chatham
 2248 Southwood Rd.
  Jackson,MS 39211

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From: ANDREW CHATHAM                         Number: 3618
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93 12:36p
Subj: 7TH GUEST PATCH                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What exactly does t7g SBPRO patch do and why is it that no one knows 
the number for the Origin BBS . What is it?

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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 3619
  To: MIKE GLADDEN                             Date: 08/19/93  6:47p
Subj: Re: 7Th Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

               *****  Quoting Mike Gladden to Joey Ratzsch  *****

 JR> I would like to trade some CD-ROM disks for a copy of 7th guest.
 JR> If intereseted, drop me a line and you can see whats avalible.  If you
 JR> want to buy them, I am also selling them.
 JR> Later
 JR> Joey

 MG> I might be willing to trade.  I'm looking for Adult oriented stuff,
 MG> some sort  of CD which can aid in identifying prescription drugs, and
 MG> the US Street  Atlas.
 MG> MikeG

Mike, if nothing works out with Joey, I have Asian Ladies available in trade
for 7th Guest, if (1) interested, and (2) over 21.  Echo back, enquiring minds
wanna know ;)  Regards!

,\\ark



 
... If it wasn't for C, we would be using BASI, PASAL and OBOL!
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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 3620
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/19/93 10:34a
Subj: CD-ROMs                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Doug,

 > We sell most of the latest cds out such as So Mucb Shareware 3, Software
 > Vault 2, Nightowl 9, Simtel, CD Winbox.  Prices are herre in the echo
 > under our ad for PCJ.

          Thanks, I already ordered via your BBS, but nothing arrived yet! Hey
that order was placed over 36 hours ago and STILL nothing in my mailbox! Guess
I just have to keep waiting <grin>.

          On a more serious note, you are providing a great service Doug, and
the BBS looks great.  Keep it up.


                                                   Cheers,

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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 3621
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/19/93 10:39a
Subj: MULTI VS SINGLE PLAYERS                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Doug,

 > What drives can you get that are daisy chainable and allow all 6 to be
 > hooked up to one machine for $150 each?

          Almost any if you are on a lan and can spare an old 286 machine. Get
a copy of OPTINET, hook any old CD-ROM drives onto their own controllers and
configure them.  Kick start OPTINET and away you go.  I currently use 8 drives
in this manner but I don't see anything up to 24 drives as being a problem if
the motherboard will take the cards.


                                                   Cheers,

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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 3622
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93 12:12p
Subj: Pro-Phone 93 Crosspost                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

=====================================================================
* Forwarded by Chris Gunn (1:202/1008)
* Area : ENTREPRENEUR (FidoNet - Entrepreneur Conference)
* From : Don Bosman, 1:159/950 (10 Aug 93 16:17)
* To   : All
* Subj : ProPhone 93 ... not good
=====================================================================
I just bought a copy of ProPhone 93 CD-ROM and would like to warn others
  off this blatantly misleading product.
Free Spirit Software {of Columbus, Indiana}, the company I bought it from
  refuses to take it back and ProCD {of Marblehead, Massachusetts} the
  company that sells it refuses to do anything, period.
I wasted $100. and hope you won't.
It is advertised as being "The National Telephone Directory on CD-ROM"
  but the listings are not up to date and are not searchable by
  category.
The SIC codes are very much mis-labeled which makes searching a
  classification to be a time waster.  I am used to seeded lists but not
  to inaccurate ones.  For instance weight reduction companies are listed
  as Escort services.  Several other retail stores are too.
My business is not listed, despite being in the yellow pages for six
  years.  My residential number is incorrect.

I specifically wanted this resource to make a mailing list for reaching
  130 retail stores in a chain.  I do business with several and wish
  to reach more of them.  Most have been in business for more two years,
  70 of them have been in business for more than five years, and should
  be on a list that claims to be for 1993.  Only 26 of them  were listed
  and the addresses of some of them are incorrect.
In checking listings for several companies that I do business with,
  I found the number of employees to be wrong, stores established three
  years ago to be missing, and SIC codes to be in error.

Please save yourself the aggravation and folly of dealing with this
  product.  Get your mailing lists from a reputable company with a track
  record that is willing to guarantee the accuracy of their product.
  ProCD does not, and Free Spirit wishes to stand behind a policy of "we
  just re-sell it, it is up to you to know the product".

                                     Don Bosman

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From: WYATT WOLFE                            Number: 3623
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93  7:26a
Subj: Mitsumi Drivers                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello, could one of you fine people please freq me the latest  cdd & cds device
driver? I am running 1.50 and assume that this is way outdated... It would only
take a few seconds at 14.4 thanks in advance!

Wyatt Wolfe
Snoopy's
1:114/214 FIDO
(602) 934-7485

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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3624
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/20/93 11:23a
Subj: New Echo - Multimedia                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Ismail!

Tuesday August 17 1993 07:44, Ismail Arslangiray wrote to All:

 IA> I have started a new echo area called MULTIMEDIA
 IA> I will do the initial feeding, if you like to get linked, please send a
 IA> net mail and I will start feeding your node.

Can you send it to my Boss Node for me...??? Bob Brisco is his name!

BTW did you get my Netmail...????

Mark Smith

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From: LARRY LABAS                            Number: 3625
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93 11:44a
Subj: Adult CD'S.                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

I'm looking for some adult CDROM's.

Please netmail 1:249/108, 69:3005/3 with any details/for sales that you might
have.

If you are a business, please send your lists to the above address.

Fax capable as well. 613-547-4539.

Prefered Netmail with the lists included though.

Also, distributor's looking for Canadian outlets welcome.

Larry

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3626
  To: MEL ORECKLIN                             Date: 08/18/93  5:48a
Subj: CD'S BY PHONE...                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>  GIFs Galore ............................ $25.95 *

>All prices are in Canadian funds. Prices subject to change without notice.

You MIGHT want to post this line a little more prominantly - otherwise expect a
lot of flames for your "high prices" from folks that don't read your WHOLE
message....

 8-)


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3627
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 08/18/93  4:04p
Subj: MITSUMI AUDIO                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>BF>Odd - I can play audio on MY Mitsumi under Desqview here....

> Through the Headphone jack on front

Yes

>or through soundblaster's audio  output

Not applicable - I have never owned a sound card (though I'm looking at the ATI
as a possible future aquisition)....
,

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3628
  To: DON HOUSTON                              Date: 08/19/93 11:40a
Subj: GIF/ANIM DISKS ?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>What is a good video disk for BBS use?  Looking for G Gifs of everything under
>the sun.

So Much Screenware or GIFs Galore should both fit your preferances....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3629
  To: BRYAN SPEED                              Date: 08/19/93 11:43a
Subj: MITSUMI DRIVE(S)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Does the Mitsumi $200 dollar drives allow more than one drive to be installed.

Yes, but you have to use a card for each drive.


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3630
  To: DON KULHA                                Date: 08/19/93  3:01p
Subj: WIERD SCIENCE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> TH> But have you been in CDs longer than the dude who did the Magnum discs?

>       I don't know if Bob has (he can answer for hisself). He's got to be a
>bit brighter in any case...who, besides a charter member of Thom's fan club,
>would set up their disks so you have to use XARC?

Outside of his ARC fixtation, Tony's not a a bad guy - come to the One BBS Con
and you can discuss the whole thing with him in person....

 8-)


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3631
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93  3:08p
Subj: InterNational Dealers Wanted            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                 International Software Distributors WANTED!!

                    Looking for International distributers
                          Dealers, and Re-Sellers.
       
                          **  No EndUsers Please

                               Please Contact:
                                Roc Hernaudez

                 Phone: (812) 878-5148 or Fax: (812) 878-5982

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3632
  To: MARK SMITH                               Date: 08/20/93  3:23p
Subj: Re: Australian Dealerships              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 12 Aug 93  20:27:05, I heard Mark Smith shout to All:

MS> G'day All!
MS> 
MS> I will consider anyone who is interested in setting up a dealership in Sydn
MS> Australia. I have a US contact in Bob Brisco (1:2602/115) and I would be ha
MS> to make available a catalog of products available to the rest of Australia.
MS> 
MS> Let me know...
MS> 
MS> Mark Smith

Could you give me more info on this, and who is the Main Contact, and there 
phone number ?? Are they a company,and if so, What is the Name. ?

                   Thanks !

                             ....|<evin


               

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3633
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93 11:57a
Subj: Review of T&A to the Maxx 1/3           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   This is a review of "T&A to the Maxx" (TAM), a recently released 
   adult CD from the folks at Profit Publishing (PP). They're the ones 
   that gave us the FAO series of adult CDs as well as the "MEGA-" 
   series of shareware CDs. 
  
   Statistics 
   ========== 
  
   TAM has 2,937 GIF images on it, plus collections of "animation" 
   files (GL, DL, FLI, etc.), text files, and games.  The GIFs total 
   547,710,776 bytes for an average size of 186,486 bytes per GIF. 
   This figure fairly represents the size and resolutions of the 
   images on the CD. 
  
   I found 77 duplicated file names within the CD itself.  Of these, 
   three turned out to be false leaving 74 truly duplicated images. 
   That computes out to less than 3% duplication - not perfect, but 
   also not too bad.  Typically, duplicated files appeared in separate 
   directories, but not always. 
  
   However, when compared to a data base of 47,612 GIF file names, I 
   found 2,897 "hits" against TAM.  Clearly this is a classic case of 
   re-hashing.  The distribution of hits was as follows: 
  
       Seedy 6-Pak    1601                Seventh Heaven        3 
       BB Rel. 1       143                BB Rel. 3           115 
       Ecstasy         225                FAO-2              1638 
       FAO-3          1204                FAO-Gold            325 
       PCPIX-1          66                PCPIX-2              21 
       PCPIX-3           2                Visual Fantasy       98 
       Pork-Ware 1      40                STORM-3             154 
  
   I didn't unzip and view the animation files, nor the text files, 
   nor attempt to play the games.  The animation file listing looked 
   quite familiar; I suspect one would find the "re-use" factor fairly 
   high there, too. 
  
   Operations to follow... 
  
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3634
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93 11:58a
Subj: Review of T&A to the Maxx 2/3           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   Operations 
   ========== 
  
   The GIF files are collected into 10 sub-directories, each of which 
   is subdivided into 1-3 more sub-directories.  The GIF directory 
   names at best only hint at their contents.  For example, "GR", 
   "RR", and "XR" may be loosely interpreted to mean G/R/X-Rated, 
   respectively; but then there's "WCNB" which is all B&D images and 
   "SFTL" which is all male images.  Go figure. 
  
   Of more interest is the sub-directories that divide the 10 main 
   directories.  These are uniformly named "SSVGA", "SVGA", and "VGA". 
   Each of the 10 "named" directories has 1 - 3 of these which, more 
   or less, refer to the resolution of the images therein.  This 
   scheme hearkens back to the FAO series which used a similar 
   technique.  Personally, I prefer image groupings along the lines of 
   subject matter. 
  
   The "SSVGA" directories mostly contain 1024x768 images; the "SVGA" 
   directories mostly contain 800x600 images; and the "VGA" 
   directories contain 640x480 and lower images.  I say "mostly" 
   because there are some "rogue" images in the "SVGA" and the "SSVGA" 
   directories.  I call an image "rogue" when it reports itself as 
   being one resolution, e.g. 800x600, when in reality it's a lower 
   resolution scan.  For example, if an image was originally scanned 
   in at 320x200 and then subsequently re-saved at a higher 
   resolution, that's a "rogue" image.  Viewers will report it as 
   having the higher resolution when in fact it doesn't from an image 
   quality standpoint.  In all, I counted 542 "SSVGA" images, 315 
   "SVGA" images, and 2080 "VGA" images. 
  
   TAM is a no-frills CD - there's no real "front end", just the usual 
   collection of PC viewers in a "DOSVIEW" directory.  Interestingly, 
   PP also provided "MACVIEW" and "UNIXVIEW" directories which one 
   would assume had viewers for those systems as well.  Now, "MACVIEW" 
   I can understand but "UNIXVIEW" is a mystery: Unix (as many of you 
   may know) is an OS hosted on a large variety of hardware platforms 
   which makes program portability across those platforms easier, but 
   not automatic.  At a minimum, a program written for PC Unix would 
   have to be re-compiled before it could be run on, for example, a 
   Sun Unix system.  Perhaps there's source code in the "UNIXVIEW" 
   directory - I didn't check.  If so, that'd be an insightful 
   "first".  If not, then those viewers may be less useful than the 
   directory title would lead one to believe. 
  
   I didn't "install" any of the viewers - there's no installation 
   procedure defined.  One would have to copy the desired viewer files 
   to their HDD, unzip them as necessary and go from there pretty much 
   on their own.  This isn't a difficult process but it could be 
   fairly arcane to the neophyte. 
  
   There are "FILES.BBS" files on the TAM CD.  Further, there's 
   corresponding "FILESX.BBS" files, too.  There's also a "CATALOG" 
   directory that contains a full set of these .BBS files.  Sysops 
   will undoubtedly appreciate these amenities.  A relevant and mildly 
   amusing note: one of the duplicated file names - "OCT90.GIF" - 
   which in reality turned out NOT to be duplicated imagery, have 
   their file descriptions switched in the .BBS files.  I didn't 
   check, but one could worry that some of the other 73 duplicated 
   file names might suffer a similar fate. 
  
   Visual to follow... 
  
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3635
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93 11:59a
Subj: Review of T&A to the Maxx 3/3           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   Visual 
   ====== 
  
   The great majority of TAM's images have BBS logos or advertisements 
   on them - most of them quite familiar: McHenry, EIC, etc.  Somewhat 
   out of the mainstream, however, is the "SFTL" directory.  Therein 
   are 34 "SVGA" images and 185 "VGA" images of nude males.  While 
   none of the the images I saw in a cursory scan of those directories 
   depict two or more males together, I wouldn't call them uniformly 
   "artistic" - although that appellation would be more correct than 
   "gay", IMHO.  While images of nude males aren't unheard of on CDs, 
   a collection this large (200+) isn't all that common either.  Of 
   the non-specific adult CDs that I've seen, TAM shares this 
   characteristic only with Pork-Ware II.  One final note on this 
   topic: a fair number of these images are monochrome and more than a 
   few are obviously scanned amateur snapshots. 
  
   Of the 40 or so file names that weren't "hits" against my file name 
   database, only a handful looked unfamiliar to me.  Accordingly, TAM 
   is likely destined to become a classic adult CD - a classic "Me, 
   too!" CD, that is.  Despite its obviously rather recent pressing (a 
   copy of version 2.04g of PKZIP is included), it's files are by and 
   large somewhat dated. 
  
   Bottom line:  If you already own two or more adult CDs, 
   particularly FAO-2 and -3, TAM likely won't bring you many new 
   images, aside from the male nudes.  What TAM does have going for it 
   is a low price, comparable only to XXXExtreme by current postings 
   in this echo, and the freebie MegaDEMO CD from PP if you purchase 
   TAM from them.  PP's MegaDEMO has some handy CD-related utilities 
   on it as well as some samplings of various free/shareware programs, 
   sound files, etc.  PP will also sell you caddies at a low price 
   with purchase of a CD.  Those perquisites aside, IMHO there are 
   better choices for one's first, and certainly second or third adult 
   CDs - way better enough to warrant a higher price. 
  
   On a more generic note, but certainly applicable to this review, if 
   one wanted to buy a few (1 to 3) adult CDs, and having 
   non-duplicated files was of *primary* importance, the order of 
   choice (according to my database) is: PCPIX-3, 7th Heaven, and 
   Busty Babes.  These CDs have a non-duplication factor of 88.5%, 
   78.3%, and 65.8%, respectively.  That is to say, of all the files 
   on each of these CDs, those percentages of file names on those CDs 
   are not duplicated anywhere else in my database. 
  
                                #  #  # 
  
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From: FELIX LEE                              Number: 3636
  To: MATT BLOCKER                             Date: 08/19/93  4:42p
Subj: Shareware                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a Shareware Extravaganza shareware  FOUR CD set. This 4-cd set contains
over 2gigs of compressed files that cover all aspects of computing. $80 Candian
Funds shipping included OR $62 US shipping included.

Please call Felix at 204-287-2028.
thanx


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From: DOUG STRIEFLER                         Number: 3637
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93 12:05a
Subj: Swimsuit                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

wanted

does anyone know of a swimsuit cd

where to buy

and how much

                            doug


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From: KEN LEBLEU                             Number: 3638
  To: DEALERS AND ALL                          Date: 08/18/93 10:55p
Subj: Cdrom upgrades  !help!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested in purchasing a CDROM package, and was wondering what costs I
would be looking at.  As well, any good packages that would be recommended
over another?

I would be looking for something that has CDROM, Sound card with SPeech, and
assorted software bundles.


ANy help would be greatly appreciated.

P.s. I'm writing from WPG,Manitoba, Canada, thus shipping charges would have
to be included in your estimates.

Thanks Ken

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3639
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93  8:41p
Subj: BUSTY 3.0 SPECIAL!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

___________________________________________________________________________
                    |                                  |
                    O                                  O
                    |                                  |
                +------------------------------------------+
                |  INTRODUCING . . . . . . .               |
                |                                          |
                |       B U S T Y   B A B E S   3.0        |
                |                                          |
                |                 $25.00                   |
                |                                          |
                | She's back, she's better, she's . . . .  |
                | BUSTY BABES 3.0!                         |
                |                                          |
                | New interface + new sizzling pictures!   |
                | Get yours now!  Limited time offer with  |
                | limited quantities.    **  H  O  T  **   |
                +------------------------------------------+

 SPECIAL BONUS:  Get the PowerPak Gold 3.0 shareware CD for only $10
                 additional w/ purchase! (Made by Busty's creators)

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3640
  To: SCOTT MARTIN                             Date: 08/19/93  8:42p
Subj: CD ROM Disk                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SM>Hi Mike, I see you are getting a lot of good references. I wanted you to
give
SM>me a reference for a Good CD ROM Disk to buy from you. I run a Gaming BBS. I
SM>am looking for a disk with NOTHING but Shareware and P.D. Games and Cracks.

Scott,

The GAMEWARE Collection is the best I've seen.  We have them in stock
at $24.  Around 640mb of games, some older but mostly the newer releases.
Fully BBS-compatible with file listings in several formats.  Gimme a
call if you're interested!

Bye,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3641
  To: MING CHAN                                Date: 08/19/93  8:42p
Subj: NIGHTOWL                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MC>Do you known of or have you encountered any problems with such adult
MC>CD-ROM being shipped across the border?

Ming,

We've never had one seized to Canada, but did have one that got nabbed
en route to Great Britain.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3642
  To: DAVID NAFFIS                             Date: 08/19/93  8:42p
Subj: Nightowl                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DN>I am interested in buying night owl 9 and the mystery cd. Can you give
DN>me some more info on it and how/where to send my money.

David,

The "mystery" CD is Phoenix 3.0.  (Shhhh - don't tell anyone)  Order
and shipping info:

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3643
  To: DAVID NAFFIS                             Date: 08/19/93  8:42p
Subj: CD'S ON SALE!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DN>I am also intrested in shareware overload. It seems you have a lot of good
DN>deals. Can you send me a list of cd's?

Be glad to.  Just call me up with your address, or d/l our catalog from
our BBS @ 509-457-0206.

bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3644
  To: STEVE KISER                              Date: 08/19/93  8:42p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SK>Mike, just wanted to say my CD's arrived today. It's a pleasure doing
busines
SK>with you. Prompt service and great prices. Thanks!

Thanks for the compliment Steve.  Your order is appreciated.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3645
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 08/19/93  8:42p
Subj: CD-ROMs                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RD>     I am interested in buying the latest versions of GREAT CD-Roms.  I have
RD>particular interest in GR8 shareware collections with particular reference
to
RD>subscription CDs such as Walnut Creek do with Simtel-20, CICA-Windows and
the
RD>like.  Any info you have may net you a regular customer, same goes for
anyone
RD>else reading this, Good CD-Roms are in short supply in Finland <grin>.

Catalog on the way!

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3646
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93  8:43p
Subj: CD-ROM LIQUIDATION!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

___________________________________________________________________________

                STARVECTOR CD-ROM LIQUIDATION SPECIALS!
___________________________________________________________________________

Starvector Software has recently acquired all remaining inventory of CD-
ROM International, and our shelves are buckling, so we need YOUR help to
MOVE THIS MERCHANDISE!!  Many items AT or BELOW cost on this limited time
special, so if you see an item you need, hurry!  It may not be there
tomorrow.  Sale limited to stock on hand.  Sale ends when it's all gone!

                              GENERAL TITLES
                              --------------
Q & A 4.0...........$34   Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15   House of Games......$20
Compton's Interact..$95   US Wars: Korea......$29   US Wars: Des. Storm.$29
US Wars: Vietnam....$29   US Wars: WWII.......$29   Guinness Disc 92....$16
Super CD 2..........$15   Super CD 1..........$14   Programmers Megapak.$29
Canadian Shareware..$19   MAC Shareware.......$22   Clipart Heaven......$19
5Star Prem. Windows.$27   Otherware I.........$17   Jedi Collection.....$39
History of Jazz.....$48   Hacker Chronicles...$24   Reel Clips..........$35
Kodak Photo CD......$18   Phoenix 3.0.........$12   Game Arena..........$10
Learning Adventure..$10   Am. Bus. Phnbk 93...$35   Barney Bear Space...$18
Cookbook Heaven.....$18   Dinosaur Adventure..$29   Ham Radio 3.0.......$10
Colossal Cookbook...$10   Clipart Galore......$25   Window Master.......$17
Windoware...........$10   Jokes & Pranks......$10   ProPhone Business...$27
King's Quest V......$18   Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$22   Great Wonders.......$32


                            ADULT TITLES (21+)
                            ------------------
Ecstasy.............$25   Hot Pix 3...........$24   Hot Pix 4...........$24
Storm 3-Pak.........$59   Porkware 1..........$30   Porkware 2..........$31
Digital Dreams......$24   Women of Venus......$25   Swimware 93.........$24
All Beauties........$29   Southern Beauties...$32   Adult Reference Lib.$24

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3647
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93  9:18p
Subj: PRECISION MAPPING UPDATE!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD
  ---------------------------------------------------------------------
                            >>> UPDATE! <<<

TITLE:  Precision Mapping v 1.5b

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UPDATE:  Precision Mapping version 1.5b is now available!  Improvements
over version 1.2 include a much improved city and landmark search
function, along with an online tutorial!  A few minor keyboard control
bugs have also been fixed, along with a few additional features.  This is
the latest release of this fantastic mapping system, and is now even more
awesome, with improved performance and new features!  Note: For those who
have already purchased version 1.2, you may trade it in for a free upgrade
to version 1.5b.  Please contact us at 509-457-2892 for more info.
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DESCRIPTION:  A complete, detailed map of the United States, with search,
edit, draw, and print capabilities.  ZOOM in on any city, right down to
the area code, zip code, or even street!  Look up addresses, measure
distances, plan travel routes, print laser-quality maps, and clip images
for export to other programs!  All in a user-friendly environment!

SPECIAL FEATURES:  Full CAD features with draw, edit, and control over
all presentation aspects, including text, alignment, color, line width,
etc.  OUTPUT to file (raster or vector), screen, dot matrix printer,
laser printer, or HPGL plotter.  DYNAMIC ZOOM in/out/all.  Window,
pan, scale, to any address, city, zip, or area code.  CLIP all or any
part of an image to a .PCX file for import into your favorite word
processor or desktop publishing program.

FREEBIE:  Includes the latest edition of the American Business Phonebook
with over 10 million business listings, absolutely FREE!

REQUIREMENTS:  EGA or higher monitor, DOS 4.0+, 550K free RAM, 2MB of
expanded memory, 10MB of (temporary) hard drive space, and any ISO9660
CD-ROM drive.  Mouse recommended.

PRICE:  $88

Mike sez . . .
"If you think Street Atlas was great, wait til you see this one!  Better,
more elaborate features, and it runs under plain ol' DOS!  This mapping
program even has "Shannon Road", which is a little dirt road my dad and
uncles carved out when they planted their apple orchard.  How's that for
thoroughness!"

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: GARY SHADE                             Number: 3648
  To: TONY DAVIS                               Date: 08/19/93 12:09a
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Overheard Tony Davis  say  to Mike Shannon on the subject of BUSTY BABES

TD> >Let us in on your situation . . . what are the details???  In what
TD> >state do you live?
TD>
TD>Oklahoma. The BBS had 16 CD Roms, 4 of which were 'adult'. They were
TD>FAO 3,
TD>Storm 2 & 3, and Busty Babes.  According to the officers that
TD>arrested me,
TD>anything that shows 'penatration' is obscene by State statute.

Perhaps a defense of '1's and '0's does *NOT* show anything. It is up to
the downloader (and their imaging software) to assemble them into a
meaningful graphic (or relationship). You could display hex dumps from
Debug to the jury etc. etc. etc.

You might want to contact the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), a not
for profit foundation. They recently won a case against the Secret
Service. A BBS operator had his equipment confiscated (like you). They
filed a civil suite under the Electronics Communications Privacy Act
(ECPA). In January (1993), the jury came down on the side of the
paintiffs. The case involved Steve Jackson Games of Texas.

If your system contains EMAIL - there is also a privacy issue involved
(through the communications act). Your users have the right of implied
privacy of their messages within your BBS. If the State were to read those
messages while in possession of your equipment, your users rights to
privacy might be considered to be violated. In which case, they would have
redress against the State.

Call EFF at 202-544-9237. Or Internet at eff@eff.org. See if they can help
you.

If you wish - you can Netmail me through a friends system at 1:282/4025.
Good luck.




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From: CHANTHA LUEUNG                         Number: 3649
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93  1:20p
Subj: club saving                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Scenario:  Misses Jane is wondering around in a computer
           store to see if she can get a good deal on a 
           Computer for her son, When suddenly, a strange
           man Screams (see below).


    (Characters :'J' is Misses Jane,   'G' is Mr. George)
 ___________________________________________________________
|                                                           |
|                C L U B    S A V I N G S                   |
|___________________________________________________________|
|                      (Announce)                           |
| (G)" Hold it!  Don't let that Dealer rip you OFF for      |
|      Your Computer, Hardware, and Software NEEDS!!!       |
|                                                           |
| You Should Decide HOW MUCH you should PAY for the items!" |
|                                                           |
| (J) "Did I hear you  Correctly?  Let see, If I wanted to  |
| purchase a computer or software for my kids, I name my    |
| price, and the price that I name is the price that I would|
| pay?"                                                     |
|                                                           |
| (G) "Exactly!  People just would not beleive it when I    |
| tell them about this Club Savings."                       |
|                                                           |
| (J) "What's the Catch?"                                   |
|                                                           |
| (G) "No catch You Simply have to be a club member :)"     |
|                                                           |
| (J) "How do I join this Club Savings?"                    |
|                                                           |
| (G) "Now That's the Easy part, Just fill out the attached |
|  Form below.  The hard part will be trying to decide what |
|  price to pay.  Hopefully you should make a decision that |
|  that you can live.  :)"                                  |
|                                                           |
| (J) "Thre's got to be a catch to this, It sound too good  |
|  to be True."                                             |
|                                                           |
| (G) "Well, you do have to pay the sales tax and shipping  |
|  because it is mail order only.  What you will be paying  |
|  is a little over what the dealer pays.  $2 dollars over  |
|  what the dealer pays to be exact."                       |
|                                                           |
| (J) "I don't get, if I'm paying $2's over what the dealer |
|  pays then I'm not deciding what price I'm going to pay.."|
|                                                           |
| (G) "You are absolutely right in a matter of speaking.    |
|  "Let me see if I can give you an example..."             |
|                                                           |
| (j) "OK, but it better be good!"                          |
|                                                           |
| (G) "Well, if the dealer puchases a Printer at a cost of  |
|  of $200 you can't Demand that he/she sell the printer    |
|  at a cost of $5's.  If the dealer sells the printer to   |
|  you at the price that you are demanding, then thats like |
|  me saying, "Hi, I just bought this printer for $200 and  |
|  I'm going to give it to you for $5 so I can go broke     |
|  because I have bags of money!""                          |
|                                                           |
| (J) "That makes sense, but why the $2's?  And if the      |
|  dealer isn't going to sell below what he/she paid then   |
|  then How am I deciding on the Price?"                    |
|                                                           |
| (G) "Now That's a good question.  First, the $2 add on is |
|  to cover the postage and paper work that has to be pro-  |
|  cessed by the dealer and Sceond what you are deciding on |
|  is how much the profit you want to give to the dealer."  |
|                                                           |
| (J) "Now I understand, but let me get this straight."     |
|   "So when a dealer gets a modem for $100 he/she then adds|
|    $2 to cover the cost of postage & paper work.  I then  |
|    decide how much to offer to buy it from the dealer.    |
|    So if I am feeling very generous, I can offer to buy   |
|    the modem at a cost of $120 and let the dealer make a  |
|    a profit of $18?"                                      |
|                                                           |
| (G) "That is Correct!"  "Are you interested?"             |
|                                                           |
| (J) "You Bet!  Just let me have the paper work..."        |
|___________________________________________________________|

Interested?  Call Chantha at (619) 299-5382 Voice Leave E-mail
or call 298-2705 by modem &  leave e-mail to The System 
Administrater and how you can be contacted.
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From: RITA LAWS                              Number: 3650
  To: TONY DAVIS                               Date: 08/20/93  7:10a
Subj: OIE                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Tony, Should OIE members assume that OIE will be back on-line (minus 4 CD)
after the equipment is returned? Are you confident of winning the equipment
back? What sort of time frame do you think lies ahead? Rita Laws


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From: RITA LAWS                              Number: 3651
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/20/93  7:18a
Subj: GRANDMA AND ME                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi. If your other buyer drops out in a few weeks, please leave me a note. I am
interested in CD programs for children, new and used. Have a nice day.


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From: TONY DAVIS                             Number: 3652
  To: RITA LAWS                                Date: 08/20/93 11:54a
Subj: OIE                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >Tony, Should OIE members assume that OIE will be back on-line (minus 4 CD) 
 >after the equipment is returned? Are you confident of winning the 
 >equipment back? What sort of time frame do you think lies ahead? Rita Laws

Rita, I'm not confident of anything. 

Tony

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From: MIKE MCCUE                             Number: 3653
  To: LARRY CHARPIAT                           Date: 08/15/93  8:59p
Subj: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > That did not answer my question.  The Pioneer DMR600
 > will hold six CD
 > ROM disk in a cassette in the one cd player.  Can you
 > switch to any of
 > the 6 CD disc's without manually pressing a button on
 > the Drive through
 > software from a menu on the BBS?

  Incase no one answers your question quickly.. here is what I understand of
the drive.. There is a program called DISK that comes with it.. and you simply
type DISK 1 or DISK 2 from the DOS prompt to change disks.. You may daisy chain
up to (either 7 or) 8 drives this way.. using a different drive letter for each
CDROM drive (the machine, not discs).  You may also configure it to where each
disc is a different drive letter.. ie. D: E: F: G: H: I: for the first CDROM
machine, and so on.. But you can only daisy chain 2 drives with this
configuration.

  Hope this helps..

      Mike

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From: MIKE MCCUE                             Number: 3654
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/15/93  9:01p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Special.... for 1 week I'm offering used Hitachi 3500
 > internal cd rom drives for $99.   I have about 20
 > left.  30 day warranty included.   205-824-2552


  Can I get some specs on these?  Access time?  Such?

   Mike

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From: MIKE MCCUE                             Number: 3655
  To: YVES DESJARDINS                          Date: 08/15/93  9:03p
Subj: CD for trade...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > BattleChess Enhanced Edition
 > Microprose Mantis & Civilization.

 I am interested in the Microprose Mantis and Civilization game..   All I
really have to offer is the Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia version
1.  I dont have any manuals.. but c'mon, how hard is it to navigate an
encyclopedia?  I can be reached at 1:395/18.79 or 43.79..

        Mike

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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 3656
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/20/93  4:42p
Subj: GRANDMA AND ME                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   Thanks Al.... I will do that. In fact, I will put you in the database
of suppliers.


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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 3657
  To: CRAIG MOSER                              Date: 08/20/93  4:48p
Subj: Mac CD-ROMS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   I will be making a purchase of an LC3 for my daughter within a few
weeks. It is through a grant, and I need to wait for the check. Please
mail me a description of these CdRom disks, and how much you want to
sell them for. My address is:

   11749 Prado Del Sol
   El Paso, TX 79936

   Thanks!


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From: SCOTT MCKNIGHT                         Number: 3658
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/20/93  9:35p
Subj: New Echo - Multimedia                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I have started a new echo area called MULTIMEDIA
Are you looking for links to get backbone status?  I'll be interested if if you
are.

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 3659
  To: RON COLEMAN                              Date: 08/11/93 11:53a
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RC>Can someone tell me a good quality Adult Cd that has Gif's and animations fo
RC>a reasonable cost like around $30 to $40 ? Or any one have a used one for
RC>sale.I only have 1 disk right now and its for my kids (animals).Thanks.

Ron,   I have Storm II which I will sell for 20$ plus shipping.  It is a
good CD with lots of variety.  All color (I think).  Honestly, I know I
haven't seen ever picture on this CD as it has thousands of pictures and
many animations.  Let me know if you're interested.
      ps.  I also have the So Much Shareware CD-ROM I would sell for
           another 20$...
                                      Shane
 þ SLMR 2.1a þ 

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3660
  To: STEVE GERWECK                            Date: 08/20/93  9:55p
Subj: Busty babes#1                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  PR> Have Busty #1, know any one that wants to buy it?
 > How much?


Make me a offer I want to sell!
Call me at 512-939-9822   This is the real one, so call before its gone!
                 Pat

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From: JON SANCHEZ                            Number: 3661
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 08/18/93 10:08p
Subj: Freedom ?                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CB>"Possession of obscene material" -- what a country (though one hopes this is
CB>actually a manifestation of Oklahoma BibleBeltism)!  Next it'll be illegal t
CB>talk about not paying taxes.  I remember when what a person did in the
CB>privacy of their home, not infringing on another's rights, was no one else's
CB>business. Good luck.

  The laws that our legislation is passing will be the demize of
"freedom". Because the FBI had nothing much to do, Ronny "Butt-head"
Ragan passed a bill for the FBI to legally spy on American citizens
(not in so many words). Our government pays some farmers not to grow
produce in the central valley which causes high prices at the market and
what about the defiset?
  Finstien's office recieved 3 to 1 calls against the Clinton tax plan
and she still voted for the plan. (Hows that)
  On only a suspision, the DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency) has the right
to convenscate all possesions for a indeffinate time (house, car, bank
account, ect...). They did this to a man in E.Palo Alto and he had to
"prove" himself inocent and still didn't get his possesions back (1989).
          "Inocent until proven guilty - A Fairy Tale".
  What about the chip the FBI want to put into all computers? To be
able to enter all networked (including BBS, Networks at your work,
ect.) systems without being detected.
  If a 1, 2, 3 or 4 year old sneeks out of your house and lets just say
sits on the curb, a neighbor can annonomoucely call a phone number and
claim child-abuse, child-neglect or what ever, and the parents must
prove themselves inocent of these charges. (How bout that)

  5 cent tax on gas doesn't really affect me much, right ? Wrong.
  Truckers that ship produce, clothing, software, computer products,
company to company products that end up in our homes, PG&E, phone
company, cable company, and hundreds more will pass there cost down to
us and include a price increase on all products.

I got a question for you, how many law enforcement agencies are in the
U. S. and what is the purpose of each of these agencies ?

                           and

What is the $4.8 Million Miscelanious mean in the U. S. Gov. budget?

        Open for views of others opinion whether pro or con...

                Looking beyond the smoke

Ken

 * OLX 2.1 TD * It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a
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From: MARK WILLIAMSON                        Number: 3662
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93  9:25p
Subj: SONY CD ROM                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have two Sony CD Rom drives Model CDU535-01.  Can someone out there tell me
if these are good drives and what kind of interface card they connect to.  I
got them at a swap meet and don't know how to hook them up.  What about
terminator/DRQ settings?  Help me somebody!

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 * Origin: Software Solutions BBS, Lemoore CA v42bis 9000 files! (1:214/54)
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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 3663
  To: SANDELEH FRANCIS                         Date: 08/18/93 11:56p
Subj: Re: toshiba cdrom                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> KT>   Like I said the Drive I bought from you seems to be KT> working
-> fine..However about once every 15 second the LED

-> i bought 2 CDs from michael konor, and the first drive does that (the
-> led blinks all the time) but the 2nd one doesnt!  go figure...

I have heard that when the LED is blinking, that either the Drive is
dirty or the Laser unit need aligning.... anyone else heard of this?

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From: CARL JOHNSON                           Number: 3664
  To: DAVID JEDLICKA                           Date: 08/20/93  5:58p
Subj: Did it work?                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Yo Dave, this is the second time that I have tried to leave you a 
message.  This time I only joined the forum with the fido net prefix.  
If this works then we will know what the deal is.  If you read this 
leave me a return.                   Peace  Carl
--- GEcho 1.00 
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From: ANISH ACHARYA                          Number: 3665
  To: GREG MANTER                              Date: 08/20/93  5:41p
Subj: Mitsumi LU005 CDROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Greg:

What CD's are they?  How fast is the drive?  Would you be willing to sell
indivual pieces of the package?

Regards,

anish acharya 

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From: ANISH ACHARYA                          Number: 3666
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93  6:03p
Subj: Shareware CD-ROM disc's                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

All,

Hello!  I am a Sysop running a small, and fairly new bulletin board system.  I
have a high speed modem, and a CD-ROM drive, which makes a good combination
for busy file area's.  I currently have Nite Owl 7, which cost me 65$ at a
special price.  But from what I have seen in here, I was *ripped* off.  Plus
about everyone in Kingston (my home town, that's Kingston Ontario) has Nite
Owl 7,8 or 9.  I want quality files, that have variety and are not to old.  I
want probably 3-5 more discs.  But I don't know what to buy.  I have ordered
that SoundWare disc, but I don't know what else to get.  Should I get Nite Owl
9?  Is it THAT much better then 7?  What is So Much Shareware like?  Any
information would be greatly appreciated.  I would also like to know about
daisy chained CD-ROM drives.  Does anyone have a unit which will play 6 CD's
simeltanously?  What about a rotating drive?  How would you use a Rotating
drive system on a multi node BBS?  Again, any info would be appreciated.

Regards, And thanks in advance!!

Anish Acharya 

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3667
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 08/19/93  8:53a
Subj: DUTY BEING CHARGED.                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> VS>$3.78 GST. So, a "free" disc ending up costing over $10. This
-> means that
-> If the disc was free ($0), what percentage sales tax did they
-> apply to get $3.78?

   They apply a 7% GST tax and a 5-6% duty on the retail value of the
package - if there's any indication of what the normal charge would be,
they charge it on that. If there's no indication, they'll estimate (and
you can bet its high). They don't care if you're trading discs, getting
free demos, or receiving a disc that came from Canada in the first place
(according to a local *slightly rude* Customs officer).
    The bonus kicker is that software is supposed to be duty free under
the Free Trade Act... but you have to prove the item originated in the
US or Canada, AND they claim the CD-ROM (the discs itself, not the
software on it) is not included in the Act.

    Vince
--- The Mail Box [NR]
 * Origin: SUPERBOARD/CD-ROM WHOLESALERS   (306)789-8682 (1:140/121)
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From: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN                      Number: 3668
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/20/93  9:33p
Subj: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > In a message to Blaine Richard <08-18-93 00:02> Steve
 > Hecker wrote:

 > SH>   > 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256
 > SH>   > From Original 35mm Slides
 > SH>
 > SH>          Blaine, pardon me for asking, but why would anyone pay for a
 > SH>  disk filled with gifs of senior citizens ? :-)

 > Mr. Hecker, I don't know what YOU are looking for
 > (teenage girls?),
 > but senior citizens, THE MODELS ARE NOT!  The models
 > that appear in

Wow, it seems to me that you are being a little thin skinned. It seems to me
that the senior citizens remark is in response to the line that says 675
Megs-OVER 65 Models- with the "OVER 65 Models" being the keywords. Note also
that he put the smiley at the end of the remark.

I guess some people just can't see or take a little joke. Personally I got a
chuckle out of it.

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From: STEPHEN THOMPSON                       Number: 3669
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 08/20/93  2:15p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Are you selling? if so what have you got available?

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 3670
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/19/93  4:25p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WT>Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to work with
WT>QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and should be able to be moved
WT>around by QEMM.  Perplexed beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.
WT> Any ideas would help.

If you DO "need" a drink, you are in very serious trouble indeed.  I walked
away from the booze nearly 6 years ago, after more than 40 years of heavy
hitting, and never looked back.  And I've never felt better. Threw away the
cigarettes, too.  I can breathe again.

More to the point, though, I do NOT understand why you and so many others
claim troubles with the Mitsumi drivers.  I've not had the first hint of a
problem with mine.  FWIW, here's the lines that matter from

My Config.sys:
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS RAM ROM ST:M X=B000-B0FF I=0C00-0FFF R:2
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\DEV\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD001 ...
          /P:300 /A:0 /M:2 /E /T:3 /I:2
SET CD=YES
DEVICE=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
lastdrive=G
; in fact, the CD-ROM is last drive, and is designated F:\ ; after 2 floppies
and 2 hard drives.  3 meg of RAM is E:\.

and Autoexec.bat:
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001

It works like a champ every time.  I use a very reliable, and stable, and user
friendly, DOS 5 and QEMM 7.01, in a 386/7-25 with the max of 16 megs, with 3
continuously busy COM ports, and two other applications; the CPU is one busy
fellow, and there is precious little room for luxurious buffers that really
don't help *me* all that much. If I want more buffers, I'll have to castrate
the machine somewhat, giving up some of the functions this thing performs.  You
have to be selective about what you want YOURS to do; it does have limits, but
the bottom line is a Mitsumi drive CAN be made to work without much effort.

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * Freedom is not a gift, it is something you earn.


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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 3671
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 08/13/93  3:30p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JM> Or, you could save it as an article and use Vern Buerg's LIST.COM to
 JM> find and collect the portion. You might also locate the file by using
 JM> GREP on the list of files to locate directly the filename, bypassing
 JM> the engine, and then editing a copy of that file

Now that I re-read what I scribbled in haste, above, I apologize for not being
more clear about the other system I use, and use more frequently now that I
think of it.  In the root directory of the various discs are the usual helpful
files, and a very few DIRs.  If I choose not to use the generic search engine
that is provided with many discs, I usually use LIST.COM right from the root,
and paw thruogh the various dirs and sub-dirs, quickly looking at various
files.

The Bureau discs I've looked at recently have only one major DIR, with dozens
of sub-dirs, sometimes named with such generic names as 0000 to 0999.  Each of
these will contain a file or group of related files, all of them in straight
text form.  It isn't easy to find a particular file without a GREP-type
utility, unless you have lots of time, or lots of luck.  Once you do find it,
though, it's straight text, easy to edit or whatever.

LF>If the files are pure text (I have to admit, I haven't taken the time to
LF>look at the Bureau CD to see if that's the case), there are other
LF>search-engines that can be applied to them - I've written some myself and
LF>have access to others. A quick & dirty little utility I wrote lets me take
LF>a file with a list of search terms and apply it to a file to be searched
LF>(usually a collection of files that have beeen concatenated). The program
LF>spits out a file in which all the designated search strings are uppercased
LF>for easy recognition. Another program of mine accepts boolean searches
LF>and outputs all paragraphs which meet the stated criteria.

Then you should have no problems at all with the files on these various discs.
 I think it was Yogi Berra who once said "you could see an awful lot by just
looking", or something like that.  Good luck!

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * "We are face to face with our destiny."T.Roosevelt


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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 3672
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93  7:22p
Subj: Aviation CD                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anybody sell a CD dedicated to Aviation stuff?  I run an aviation oriented
BBS and would like something like this for my collection.


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From: TED KIDD                               Number: 3673
  To: CRAIG MOSER                              Date: 08/19/93 11:45p
Subj: Mac CD-ROMS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CM> Giga-ROM v3 - Macintosh shareware cdrom

I have a couple of questions about this disc... 

1)  Is it BBS compatible (IBM BBS that it...)?
2)  How much?
3)  What is the date of the disc? 

Thanks
* SPITFIRE v3.3
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From: SHANE HEDRICK                          Number: 3674
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 08/20/93  8:06p
Subj: Re: CD's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

}}}}}} On 08-18-93  06:54 Gene said to Shane {{{{{{
 SH>                 Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective
 
 

 GE> $10 is offered

   Gene,
        Not at this time.
                           Shane

... ===__-+- The No-Win Tagline *--=/__   *--=/__   *--=/__
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From: MARIO BONELLI                          Number: 3675
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93 10:24p
Subj: Repair For Toshiba 3101                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for any type of repair center or person willing to repair a Toshiba
3101 CDROM Drive at reasonable cost. Please send a reply through netmail.
Thanks.

Mario Bonelli - Ask Me About The Newly Forming AMIGA_HAM Echo - FREQ US!
*** CNET 2.63
... You non-conformists are all alike.
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3676
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/21/93 12:49a
Subj: 7TH GUEST ONLY $39!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 *************************************************************************
                          7TH GUEST IS HERE!!!
 *************************************************************************

       PRICE:  $39!!        In stock, ready for immediate delivery.

 MINIMUM Requirements:  2 Megs RAM * 386DX CPU * 16 bit SVGA video card
 with at least 512K RAM * CD-ROM Drive w/ 150K per second minimum transfer
 rate * Sound card w/ FM and PCM sound * Mouse * Hard drive w/ 10 Megs free
 MSCDEX 2.2 or higher * DOS 5.0

 RECOMMENDED Hardware:  486sx 20mhz or faster CPU * 4 Megs RAM * Fast
 16 bit SVGA video card w/ 1 Meg RAM or local bus video * CD-ROM drive w/
 300k per second transfer rate and less than 300 ms access time * Roland
 LAPC-1, MT-32, or Sound Canvas and 16 bit PCM Sound Card

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
       "This is the new standard in multimedia entertainment.  This
        is the future."       - Bill Gates, Chairman Microsoft Corp.
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

---
 * SLMR 2.1a * Hello, I am Mike and I am a baudaholic.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3677
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/21/93 12:49a
Subj: ADULT CD 7-PAK: $135                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                    [[[[  ADULT CD PACKAGE DEALS  ]]]]
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------


              ADULT CD 7-PAK                   SEEDY-ROM 7-PAK
              --------------                   ---------------
                  Storm 1                        Seedy-ROM 1
                  Storm 2                        Seedy-ROM 2
                  Storm 3                        Seedy-ROM 3
                 Hot Pix 2                       Seedy-ROM 4
                 Hot Pix 3                       Seedy-ROM 5
                 Hot Pix 4                       Seedy-ROM 6
                 Hot Pix 5                       Seedy-ROM 7

                 - $135 -                         - $159 -

              ($19.29 per CD)                  ($22.71 per CD)
             30-35% duplication                0% duplication!
                 BBS-Ready                        BBS-Ready
               27,000+ files                    32,000+ files

     ------------------------------------------------------------------
     *         BONUS:  Porkware 1 only $25 w/ either package!         *
     ------------------------------------------------------------------

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

---
 * SLMR 2.1a * I'm leaving my body to science fiction...

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From: JOSHUA ECKERMAN                        Number: 3678
  To: ADAM GILBERT                             Date: 08/20/93 11:36p
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you know where i can get a good external cd-rom drive? I dont need any extra
software or anything just a drive. Later I'll will be looking for a shareware
disc. thanks.
--- GEcho 1.00
 * Origin: From: The Harkkonnen Empire 515-221-9859 (1:290/21)
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From: KEN TULLY                              Number: 3679
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/21/93 10:03a
Subj: Busty Ver. 1.0                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Busty Babes First Edition for sale to the highest bidder.  It is from
the first pressing.  If interested you can call me at 203-387-3174 voice, Fax
at 203-387-3306 or BBS at 203-387-3289.


                                        Ken...


I forgot to mention...  It is an autographed copy from Lee & Blaine.

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From: JOHN TRIMBACK                          Number: 3680
  To: BILL ALEXANDER                           Date: 08/21/93  3:58p
Subj: Re: CDROM Drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  *In a message dated 19 Aug 93   3:08:59 Bill Alexander writes:

> John, 
> If you will guarantee against DOA you can ship them COD to: 
> 509 Pine Ridge Ln.
> Aubrey, TX 76227 
> Let me know how much the total is going to be. If you wish to call 
> to talk to me about the transaction, my # is 817-440-3262 or 
> 817-365-9045. 
> Thanks a bunch! 
> Bill 
> --- CNet XFIDO 2.63
>  * Origin: House Atreides (1:124/6110) 

Okay...this is for the simms right?
i will try to rescan messages..later


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 3681
  To: MARK GUTT                                Date: 08/20/93  7:49a
Subj: Busty Babes 1.0                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG>I have a copy of the "BUSTY BABES" Volume 1, Release 1.0
MG>thats in excellent condition (used 3 or 4 times) that I
MG>would like to sell. If you are interested, leave your
MG>name,an offer, and how you can be reached.

   $10 plus $2.90 shipping

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209

Internet:   gene.ehrich@pics.com
Fidomail:   Gene Ehrich @ 1:226/22
MCI Mail:   497-8062
Prodigy:    RBCW80A
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ Misspelled?  Impossible.  My modem is error correcting.


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 3682
  To: GREG MANTER                              Date: 08/20/93  7:52a
Subj: Multimedia Items For Sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GM>        The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
GM>        1992 Guinness Disk of Records: Multimedia Version
GM>        Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume I
GM>        The Software Jukebox: Home and Entertainment Edition

           $10 each is offered plus $2.90 shipping for total $42.90

GM>        MAKE ANY REASONABLE OFFERS!

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ PCDOS&MSDOS&CP/M&WINDOWSI'LLFIDDLEWITHOS/2WOULDN'TYOU


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 3683
  To: TIM SCHOOLER                             Date: 08/20/93  7:54a
Subj: Publish It! 3.0 for Windo               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TS>Publish It! for Windows, version 3.0. Special CD-ROM version includes Adobe

TS>consider trading for other titles or best cash offer.

   $10 plus $2.90 shipping is offered.

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ Your E-Mail has been returned due to insufficient volta


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From: LOUIS SOKOL                            Number: 3684
  To: ROBERT LEE                               Date: 08/21/93  3:47p
Subj: CDROM BBS Door!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RL> WHAT WILL CDMX2DOR DO?

RL>        In a word.... EVERYTHING.

RL>        Some features:

RL>        o       it will work with ANY BBS software (not just MAXIMUS) 
RL> that                is capable of writing a long-style (52 line) 
RL> DOOR.SYS                drop-file, e.g., WILDCAT, PCB, GAP, etc.  If 
RL> your system
RL>                can't write a long-style DOOR.SYS, then you may still
RL>                use this software via a door conversion program that
RL>                makes long-style DOOR.SYS files.

Will this software work wit TBBS or TDBS? 

* SPITFIRE v3.3
* Database Connections BBS * Supporting dBASE, Clipper, and More!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3685
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER@1:231/570                  Date: 08/19/93  6:26p
Subj: WANTED: DEALERS!!!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>  Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers

>                   Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
>                         Darrel Rivenbark

What sort of stuff do these folks handle?


 * SLMR 2.1a * ...to place me in her life will be hard and slow....

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3686
  To: DAVID HARRISON                           Date: 08/21/93  3:35p
Subj: Re: Night Owl 9 $25                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 19 Aug 93  13:31:33, I heard David Harrison shout to Kevin Plummer:

KP>                   N i g h t   O w l   9 . 0
DH> I am curious as to what Night Own 9.0 consist of... Specs, Megs, Types of
DH> Files, and if it has all files.bbs installed?

David,

  Night owl has a FILES.BBS, and it's a pretty nice CD.  It has about 60 file 
areas, You can freq the complete list of files from me if you like ??  The 
magic Name will be NIGHT

                        .....|<evin

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3687
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/21/93  4:14p
Subj: Dealers Wanted                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

==========>>>>>>  W A N T E D     D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========

  Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers

                   Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
                         Darrel Rivenbark

  Cheapest Prices around !!!!

                                        1-800-865-5354
=================================================================

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From: JERRY SMITH                            Number: 3688
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 08/21/93  9:11p
Subj: Nodelist/copyright                      Refer: NONE
Read: 08/23/93  6:33a                       Private: No 

Hi Tim--Get ahold of the U.S. Supreme Court Report for Feist
Publicactions, Inc. v Rural Telephone Service Company, Inc.
(113 L Ed 2d 358), decided March 27, 1991.  It provides a clear,
concise and pretty 'final' view of what copyright means for fact-
based compilations (such as the nodelist; the specific compilation
in this case was the telephone White Pages--they aren't subject to
copyright protection, even as a whole).  One of the key things it
says is that 'facts' cannot be protected by copyright and that
anyone can extract them from a compilation at will, even though the
compilation itself may meet copyright requirements for
'originality' and be subject to copyright protection.  Beyond that,
a copyright does not give an author authority to dictate how his
work may be used; it only protects him from defined 'infringement'
(unauthorized duplication, performance, etc.).  In order to provide
the sort of protection, or control, you are speaking of, one might
distribute material under license or contract, such as is done for
software and maintenance documentation (not that the 'shrink wrap'
license is a settled matter).  Here, in theory at least, the two
parties agree as to conditions of use.

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From: CHRIS JOHNSON                          Number: 3689
  To: JIM ORCHARD                              Date: 08/21/93 11:38a
Subj: multi-speed cd-rom                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JO> I am looking for a good (new condition) multi-spin cd-rom drive I would
 JO> prefer it if it came with a controller also. I have heard that the NEC
 JO> drives are the best, unfortunatly also the most expensive. Anyone care
 JO> to enlighten me?

        I have a NEC CDR-74 (the BEST nec)

        User Data Capacity              680Mbytes/disk (MAX)
        Total # of blocks               333Kblocks/disk (MAX)
        User Data Blocks                2048bytes/block
        Data Trasnfer Rate              400Kbytes/second
        Burst Transfer Rate             4.4Mbytes/second (multi-Spin)
        Seek Time                       240 MSEC
        Hard Error Rate                 below 10 (to the)12
        memory buffer                   64K bytes

                This drive is AWESOME.  I got it in a MM upgrade kit
                for 1000.00.. (sondblaster/5 cd's/ect.)




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From: EARL BONSER                            Number: 3690
  To: LIEF BROOKS                              Date: 08/21/93 10:05a
Subj: Southern Beauties                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LB>*********************** Southern Beauties **********************
LB> THIS QUALITY DISC is NOT FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!!
LB>Since the images on "Southern Beauties" are not available for
LB>downloading on any BBS

Just how are we supposed to know that a file came off from this CD when
callers start uploading them?  They ARE going to start showing up on
BBS's.  I'm not about to buy it just to get a list of the names so I
don't post any of them by accident.  I will not intentionally post any
files from this CD, but I can't gurantee some won't slip in.  Any
suggestions?  Did you use some type of nameing pattern or convention
that we can watch for when creating this CD?  I think you'll find most
SysOp's more than willing to comply with your request to keep these
files off from their boards, but you must give us more info than "NOT
FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!!".  There are literally hundreds of thousands of
these types of images floating around and it's totally unreasonable for
you to expect us to recognize yours without some info about their names.


 * OLX 2.1 TD * Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic
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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3691
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/21/93 12:14p
Subj: Brand New Adult Cd'S!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS> Seymore Butts Interactive.....49.00    Girls of Vivid 1 or 2.........45.00

What is Vivid?  I was looking through the (g-rated) GIFs on
Nightowl 9 and noticed that there are a few GIFs which advertise
Vivid (mostly rendered poolballs & cue on a pool table).  That it
was computer art suggests that it's some kind of computer art
magazine, but the above suggests that it's an adult magazine.  Is
it a magazine at all?  Are these two different Vivids?

 * SLMR 2.1 * Give me liberty or give me death.

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3692
  To: DAN HATTERICK                            Date: 08/21/93 12:24p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DH>WT>Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to work
DH>WT>with QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and should be able to be moved

DH>my drivers.So I put the Qemm line in my Config.sys so now
DH>its just like running total Qemm except for Dos commands.  -

What do you mean?

 * SLMR 2.1 * Please smash head through monitor to continue.

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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3693
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 08/21/93  8:32p
Subj: WANTED: Dealers!!!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Kevin!

Tuesday August 17 1993 15:00, Kevin Plummer wrote to All:

 KP> ==========>>>>>>  W A N T E D     D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========

 KP>   Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers

 KP>                    Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
 KP>                          Darrel Rivenbark

 KP>   Cheapest Prices around !!!!

 KP>                                         1-800-865-5354
 KP> =================================================================

If you ***GENUINELY*** interested in having a connection in Australia, you can
fax me details on 61-46-471-499 (Australia) We are genuinely interested in
setting up with someone who is interested in getting there product to the
Australian Population. Don't tell me ytou are interested and then do nothing!

Awaiting your reply...

Mark Smith


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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3694
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 08/21/93  8:37p
Subj: Hey, what's happening..???              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Patrick!


Patrick we are keen to link up with anybody who is serious about having a
distributor in Australia. We don't want to waste anyone's time or efforts. We
are real not just mucking about. If you genuinely would like to set up a link
with us in Australia then please get back to me...???

Regs,

Mark Smith




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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3695
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/21/93  8:41p
Subj: Aussie Needs help...                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

G'day Doug!

Sunday August 15 1993 20:26, Doug Carpenter wrote to Mark Smith:


 DC> We have pretty good prices and would be glad to work with you on selling
 DC> CDs in Australia.  Do you have a fax?


Doug we are genuinely interested in linking up with someone in the US to sell
CD's and anything else in Australia for them. We will consider all serous
offers....Our FAX in Australia is 61-46-471-499. Please FAX us if you are
seroious...????

Regs,

Mark

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3696
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/20/93  6:54p
Subj: CD-Rom Dupes                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>You copycat!  8)  I hope you don't get as much griping and complaining 
  >as I got when I posted these! 
 
Haha  I noticed that. <G>  Hopefully, the notes will help.  I considered 
asking you if you minded me using your format, but figured you wouldn't 
mind.  Feel free to use my info if you ever want to.  That is a real 
nice program.  I was glad to see it doesn't actually read the disk, just 
the file list.  We probably need to do the adult discs too.  I KNOW 
there are a lot of dupes among most of those. :) 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3697
  To: MATT BLOCKER                             Date: 08/20/93  7:14p
Subj: Shareware                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>Does anyone have any shareware CD for sale? 
 
Plenty!  You can download catalog.zip from Computer Works for our 
complete list of titles, prices & descriptions.  We accept online orders 
for credit card and COD orders. 
 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales!                                           Jim... 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3698
  To: DYLAN GORDON                             Date: 08/20/93  7:55p
Subj: Gif CD-Rom                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DG>    I'm looking for a G-RATED CD of GIf's....  I think Gif's Galore would 
  >be good, but does anyone know of a Good one? 
 
So Much Screenware would fit the bill.  It is by the makers of the So 
Much Shareware series and So Much Stareware.  If you would like a 
catalog, give us a call or post your address for me.  Thanks. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3699
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/20/93  8:00p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have one copy of Busty Babes Version 1.0.  Anyone interested in 
bidding on it, please call or write.  Serious offers starting at $250 
only please.  Thank you! 
 
Computer Works 
Rt 3 Box 794-B                                          Jim... 
Ashford, AL 36312 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: TOM SUTER                              Number: 3700
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/21/93  6:15p
Subj: U.S. Mail                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris,

     I received my order today (21 August) in good shape.  I thought
I would let you know that Uncle Sam's service was not as good as the
cost they charged you and, if there is a guarantee, you should ask
for a refund.  I noticed you shipped by Two Day Priority Mail, but
the postmark was 4 days ago.  This is in no way a complaint from me
to you since, as I told you, I was not in any real rush to receive the
disks, but I feel that the Postal Service should perform in accordance
with their claims.

     BTW, thanks for the flyers you enclosed.  Do you also happen to
have a catalog later than the one you enclosed with my drive last
winter?

     Auf wiedersehen,
     = Tom =

 * QMPro 1.01 41-0124 * Man's incomplete til he marries,then he's finished

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 3701
  To: RALPH MOWERY                             Date: 08/21/93 11:43a
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Excuse me for butting in, but I have some comments on your settings. Maybe I'm
so confused I just don't understand, but I think a bit differently from you in
choosing the settings.

RM>I am posting the AUTOEXEC.BAT file

RM>C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 FILES 40
                            ^
Wise choice!  It shows you have read the manual, unusual for MOST users.  Most
folks think that FILES belongs in Config.sys with QEMM, and they are just
wrong!  BTW, you have FILES in Config.sys ALSO! I didn't know the command would
work without an "=" sign.

RM>SET TEMP=c:\DOS

Not really a wise choice.  The function of SET TEMP is to designate a place
that applications can use for a temporary scratchpad.  Most folks have a
separate directory; many use C:\TEMP or similar.  You are at risk of having
something valuable in C:\DOS scribbled over or corrupted.

RM>and CONFIG.SYS file

RM>DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS R:2 exclude=A000-C7FF RAM DBF=2 xst=c000 ST:M
                                          ^^^^^^^^^ Thjis is a LOT of space to
exclude.  Most folks get by with excluding only the video portion B000-B0FF,
while others need as much as B000-BFFF.  You ought to consider a Manifest
analysis of your real needs; I'll bet you'd get back a LOT of memory.

RM>Files = 10
RM>buffers=10

How do you manage to get by with only 10 buffers here?  I needed 40 for many
things, and Alpha 4 demanded 50!  Notice the 10 files, see above.

RM>DOS=HIGH,umb
           ^^^^
I'm surprised it works.  This is ignored by QEMM, and has been for several
versions.  See the manual.  That ",UMB" is a crutch needed by the
lesser-equipped memory managers.

RM>LASTDRIVE=H

Another wise choice; too many folks waste space by using "Z".

RM>  The exclude A000-C7FF and  xst=C000
RM>are for the Speedstar 24x vidio board in my system..

Oh.  Well, that's a heck of a lot of memory, a lot more than most boards.

RM>All seems to work well with this setup and no crashes or lock-ups..

You must not be experimenting with it enough then.  Most of us live a little
closer to the edge.  :-)

RM>Good luck..

And to you as well.

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * "Sometimes party loyalty asks too much."  J.F.K.


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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 3702
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/21/93 11:52a
Subj: X movie review cd                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>Does ANYONE recall reading my review of Busty Babes Release 3.0?? If
BJ>not, I'll recreate it and re-post.

It came through here twice.  Once several days ago, and again just this week. 
I have the disk and concur with your assessment of it.  But what does any of
this have to do with the subject line?

73,

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

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From: LARISSA KOHLER                         Number: 3703
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/21/93  9:59a
Subj: 6 CDROM changer                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I run a BBS with 3 online cdroms, but I only have 1 cdrom drive.  I was
wondering if anyone knew of a 6 cdrom drive changer that ran by software.  I've
seen 'em where you have to flip 'em manually, but I'd like to find one my users
can flip.  Thanks!
     Larissa

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From: BRIAN MILLER                           Number: 3704
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/20/93 10:18p
Subj: Walnut Creek Releases                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> We have it in stock for $19.95. 615-339-0235 to order.

Thank you,  I will be giving you a call sometime in the next few days.


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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 3705
  To: MIKE ROBINSON                            Date: 08/10/93 12:30p
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MR> AND WILL YOU PLEASE SEND ME A MESSAGE ON THIS BOARD TO SAY YOU GOT THIS
MR>MESSAGE AND YOU WIL SENT THE INFO. OUT TO ME

Message recieved.   I will whip together some information to send your way this
afternoon.   I've been busy enough that I just have not been able to get
anything to the printers to send out.

Loyd
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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 3706
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  8:31p
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                  ****  Digital Enterprises  ****
                       Custom CDROM Service

  Our CDROM Recorder is fired up, and ready to serve you!   We can
  produce a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive
  overnight!

   o Complete confidentiality assured.  Your data will NOT be pilfered.
   o Free up Megabytes of expensive magnetic media.
   o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
   o Use as a master to transfer data to a pressing facility.
   o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
   o Great for:  BBS Files, Document Imaging, Permanent Archival
                 Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
   o In MOST cases, 24 hour turnaround is possible.
   o Free shipping via Two day U.S. Priority Mail.  Overnight Delivery extra

Pricing for Custom CD production:

o 527 Meg:  o $1 per megabyte UP TO $139.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 139MB
            o Minimum charge $85 for less than 85MB.
            o $50 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o 650 Meg:  o $1 per Megabyte UP TO $144.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 144MB
            o Minimum charge $90 for less than 90MB.
            o $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o CD Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee.

o UPS RED Label shipping is $15 extra.


   Data formats Supported:               Software Supported:
 ---------------------------           ----------------------- o 60/125/250MB
DC600/6XXX          o Sytos Plus o Mountain Filesafe
  Streaming Tape.                  o Everex Tape o PCTools

o QIC 40/80  (Colorado Jumbo 250)  o PCTools o Colorado Software

o Floppy (At additional cost)      o Fastback 3.0 o PCTools

o Hard Disk

Terms:

  Prepay for service via Certified check or money order.  Personal
  checks must clear bank before production begins.  SORRY, we are
  not able to accept your Visa/Mastercard at this time.

*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***
  Orders placed ON or before August 31, 1993 qualify
  for a 10% discount from our current pricing. *** ** *** ** *** **    Special 
  ** *** ** *** ** ***

Notice:

Digital will NOT be a party to the creation of "elite", or pirated software
collections on CDROM.  Such activity is morally WRONG and illegal.  If this is
your intention, please do not waste my time or yours.

For further information, please File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node
1:239/900.0 at V.32bis speeds, or call our voice number.

Digital Enterprises
Voice: 517-865-6800  -  BBS: 517-865-6066  -  Fidonet: 1:239/900.0

===
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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 3707
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/21/93  4:25p
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                  ****  Digital Enterprises  ****
                       Custom CDROM Service

  Our CDROM Recorder is fired up, and ready to serve you!   We can
  produce a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive
  overnight!

   o Complete confidentiality assured.  Your data will NOT be pilfered.
   o Free up Megabytes of expensive magnetic media.
   o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
   o Use as a master to transfer data to a pressing facility.
   o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
   o Great for:  BBS Files, Document Imaging, Permanent Archival
                 Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
   o In MOST cases, 24 hour turnaround is possible.
   o Free shipping via Two day U.S. Priority Mail.  Overnight Delivery extra

Pricing for Custom CD production:

o 527 Meg:  o $1 per megabyte UP TO $139.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 139MB
            o Minimum charge $85 for less than 85MB.
            o $50 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o 650 Meg:  o $1 per Megabyte UP TO $144.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 144MB
            o Minimum charge $90 for less than 90MB.
            o $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o CD Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee.

o UPS RED Label shipping is $15 extra.


   Data formats Supported:               Software Supported:
 ---------------------------           ----------------------- o 60/125/250MB
DC600/6XXX          o Sytos Plus o Mountain Filesafe
  Streaming Tape.                  o Everex Tape o PCTools

o QIC 40/80  (Colorado Jumbo 250)  o PCTools o Colorado Software

o Floppy (At additional cost)      o Fastback 3.0 o PCTools

o Hard Disk

Terms:

  Prepay for service via Certified check or money order.  Personal
  checks must clear bank before production begins.  SORRY, we are
  not able to accept your Visa/Mastercard at this time.

*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***
  Orders placed ON or before August 31, 1993 qualify
  for a 10% discount from our current pricing. *** ** *** ** *** **    Special 
  ** *** ** *** ** ***

Notice:

Digital will NOT be a party to the creation of "elite", or pirated software
collections on CDROM.  Such activity is morally WRONG and illegal.  If this is
your intention, please do not waste my time or yours.

For further information, please File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node
1:239/900.0 at V.32bis speeds, or call our voice number.

Digital Enterprises
Voice: 517-865-6800  -  BBS: 517-865-6066  -  Fidonet: 1:239/900.0

===
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3708
  To: ED KELLERMANN                            Date: 08/22/93  1:40a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Boris,
>>      Pardon my seeming stupidity, but what is the difference
>>      between a Pioneer DMR600 and a DMR604X changer ?  Do you
>>     also sell them bundled with the appropriate drivers, and a
>>     SCSI card, cables, etc set up for external ?

>>                            thanks

Ed, the DMR600 is a 600ms drive with a 150kps transfer rate. While the
DMR604X is a 300ms drive with a 600kps transfer rate. Other than that
both units offer the same features.

Interested in any additional information, please call us at 216-225-3263
and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3709
  To: ROEL SARCENO                             Date: 08/22/93  1:40a
Subj: Re: Encyclopedia                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Boris Osadciw

>>    Do you have any Encyclopedia, Road maps and games on CD ROM
>>    that can be use as a on-line door.  I'm not looking for files
>>    they can download by something they can actually run online
>>    with the bbs.  I would also like to know if it's legal or if
>>    it's for personal use.

Nothing that we're aware of! At least nothing that is currently being
released will allow this type of option.

There are some old Encyclopedia's that may allow this, but nothing
else that we can think of.

Sorry we couldn't be of more help.....

Boris Osadciw

... Mail Media. Do not expose to Flames!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3710
  To: DYLAN GORDON                             Date: 08/22/93  1:40a
Subj: Re: CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>            I'm looking for a G-RATED CD of GIf's....  I think
>>            Gif's Galore would be good, but does anyone know of a
>>     Good one?

There's a number of them out there ! Give us a call at 216-225-3263
and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3711
  To: JIM LAWHON                               Date: 08/22/93  1:40a
Subj: Re: Texel/Toshiba Questions             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    - Will the Texel DM3024 run off an Adaptec 1542b SCSI

>>    - Is anyone here selling the Toshiba 3401b for less than
>>    $399(US)+s&h? - Is the 3401 multi-session and XA capable under

>>    - Is there any reason why one of the above shouldn't be used
>>    on a BBS? - How much are extra caddies for the above system?

>>    I have the $$$ and will be purchasing one or the other within
>>    the next couple of weeks.  If you are a dealer competitive
>>    with the above pricing and prefer to deal privately or by
>>    voice, you may contact me via netmail at the address below.

>>                                          regards,

Jim, as we market both of the above drives, your welcome to call us
at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to answer all of the above
questions for you.

Boris Osadciw

... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3712
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  1:40a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3713
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  1:40a
Subj: Mix or Match                            Refer: NONE
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********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Canadian Shareware      Between Heaven & Hell 2
Sophistcated Sante Fe     IBM Sampler             TaxPrep '93'
Sherlock Holmes (TxT)     Game Arena              Shareware Overload
PC Game Room              PC-SIG 8                PC-SIG Games
LaserTax On CD            Phoenix # 3             Jokes&Pranks
Learning Adventure        Business Assistant      World Travler
Sound Sensation           DeathStar Arcade        Colossal CookBook
ClipArt Goliath           Technotools             Our Solar System
Bible & Religion          Windoware               Dictionaries & Languages
Original Shareware        Selectware

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                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
So-Much-Shareware         Magnum Games/Windows    Shareware Studio #2
Shareware Tiger           Jem Disc w/floppy       PC-SIG Home/Business
QRZ Ham Radio

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Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3714
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  1:40a
Subj: RED HOT SPECIAL                         Refer: NONE
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$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$
 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX   PRICE - $15.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
   COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - -  24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3715
  To: STEVE GERWECK                            Date: 08/22/93  1:40a
Subj: Re: BB                                  Refer: NONE
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 -=>> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Steve Gerweck <=-

 BO>> Well Steve, BB v1 vol1.0 is no longer available from us as we have
 BO>> sold it to a buyer for $425.00. As for BB v1 vol2 it's priced at $45.
 BO>> and BB v1 ver3.0 is $25.

>>    HI Boris.. is that $25 shipped for V3?  If so, post your
>>    company's address and I'll send you a check.  Or do you have
>>    an 800 number to charge it?


No Steve, you need to add $5. to cover the cost of shipping and insurance.

Your welcome to call us at 800-243-0517 and place your order anytime.

Hope this helps...

Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: DREW WILSON                            Number: 3716
  To: ZACHARY HAMM                             Date: 08/21/93  1:41p
Subj: Dak CD-ROMS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hey Zach,
   Did you order one of Dak's CD-ROMS that they advertised in the summer '93
catalog?  If so, how is it?  I was thinking about snagging one but I thought
I'd check out the ol' cd-rom echo first to see if anyone had a better deal.
Please tell me how the cd-rom worked out and what your running it with.

           later.......Drew Wilson
PS...the tech support # is 1-800-888-9818    thanx

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From: TONY MILES                             Number: 3717
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93 11:55p
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

********************** FOR TRADE **********************
 
                  SMUTWARE CD-ROM disc
 
640 megs of adult files
1001 1024x768x256 adult gifs
2010 800x600x256 adult gifs
101 GL, DL movies
No descriptions
Not wife-proof
Published in February 93
 
 
Looking to trade it for:
Six used 120meg QIC80 tape cartridges
 
If interested, leave reply in this conference.

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From: MIKE RICHARDSON                        Number: 3718
  To: MANESH RAMA                              Date: 08/21/93 12:22p
Subj: Cd-software                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Manesh Uttered To All In The (13) CDROM_SALE - Conference About Cd-software
 
 *********************************
 *HI, I WUZ JUST WONDERING IF ANYONE OUT THERE HAS ANY CD-SOFTWARE
 *FOR SALE. PREFFERABLY UNDER $50.
 *OH YEAH I ALSO HAVE A CD OF MY OWN FOR SALE
 *ITS THE NIGHT OWL'S CD ver. 6
 *ANY OFFERS?
 *********************************
 
    I will trade Phoenix-CD Version 2.0 (unopened) for Night Owl Version
    6.....
 
     .***.**.*
    **.\\ike **
     ***.*.***
 
***
 * 4U2NV * Serious offers only........

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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 3719
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/21/93  1:14a
Subj: Busty babes trade sought.               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@SUBJECT:Busty Babes Trade sought....                                N
   I am looking for a copy of either BUSTY BABES ver. 1.0 , Vol 3
or either Southern Beauties.   I have several CD's that I could
offer as trade for this disk....

     Day of the Tenticle by LucasArts
       ( FULL speach throughout the game, no reading at all ! )
       Comes complete with Box & Doc's. Plus HINTBOOK.

     Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
       ( Again this is the FULL talking version! )

     20th Century Video Almanac
       ( Excellent Disk! )

     The San Diego Zoo Presents... The Animals!
       ( True Multimedia!  MUST have Windows 3.x and a
         video card capible of running Windows in 256
         color mode to operate this incredible Disk )

     Night Owl 6.1  and 7.0  Shareware Disks


If you have ANY of the disks that I mentioned, see which disk(s)
that I have that would complete the trade and get back with me ASAP.
Either reply here or on my BBS (404) 531-0093 or NetMail 1:3616/40

                        Todd

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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 3720
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/21/93  1:24a
Subj: Hitachi drive for sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@SUBJECT:HITACHI drive for sale    C H E A P                         N

     I have a Hitachi CD-ROM drive that I no longer need and would
  like to sell.  Model number CDR-2500,  the drive is full height
  and is about 700ms, so if you are hunting MPC compatible, this ain't
  for you, but if you operate a BBS it's PERFECT !
   I will include Night-Owl 7.0  FREE of charge to the first person
  that snaps up this deal...
  Price is 120.00 and includes DRIVE, CONTROLLER and CABLE.
  Shipping is ALSO included...

     -OR-

    Will trade this drive for a NICE video Card (1MB), something
   in the neighborhood of a Diamond or Orchid.
   IF it's a REALLY nice VGA card, I will include a
   CYRUSS SVGA Windows Accelerator Card (1MB), really a FAST
   card!, but due to compatibility problems with a specific
   program, I need to find a different one...

   If interested, reply here or call my BBS at (404) 531-0093
   or NetMail 1:3616/40 for faster results...

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 3721
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/22/93 12:03a
Subj: Re: toshiba cdrom                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hiya, Todd!
On Aug 18, Todd Crawford spake thusly to Sandeleh Francis:

->> i bought 2 CDs from michael konor, and the first drive does 
->> that (the led blinks all the time) but the 2nd one doesnt!  
->> go figure...

 TC> I have heard that when the LED is blinking, that either the 
 TC> Drive is dirty or the Laser unit need aligning.... anyone 
 TC> else heard of this?

gee, i wouldnt think so.. both these drives were just refurbished.  surely they
would have cleaned and aligned the laser...


\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 3722
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 08/21/93  5:18p
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <08-19-93 13:04> Joe Slifer wrote:

JS>> Would you list the cdroms FLD produces and any planned future
JS>> releases.-Thank

Thanks Joe for asking--We have a busy Fall coming with some blockbusting
discs--The schedule for the next 60 days is:

a) Busty Babes Vol II Rel 1.0 (September Release)--Licensed collection
   of original slides with "Gorgeous Women"....1000 images. X and XXX
   images. Nothing amateur about this disc ! All professional photography.


b) Texas Glamour- All original scans as well....(Oct release) "X" rated.
   NO men--

c) "Passion"--All original scans, XXX disc, (Nov release)--etc....

All of our products will feature the "ShowOff" interface, with some
new enhancements if they are ready in time for Busty II.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: BRIAN DHATT                            Number: 3723
  To: JIM ORCHARD                              Date: 08/20/93 11:47a
Subj: multi-speed cd-rom                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Wednesday August 18 1993 18:57, Jim Orchard wrote to All:

 JO> I am looking for a good (new condition) multi-spin cd-rom drive I would
 JO> prefer it if it came with a controller also. I have heard that the NEC
 JO> drives are the best, unfortunatly also the most expensive. Anyone care
 JO> to enlighten me?

Call MPS Multimedia at 800-533-4MPS.  They seem to have some good deals on
Panasonic 300kb/s drives, $269 internal + $20 controller.  They have an ad in
Computer Shopper that you might want to look at.

Brian

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From: BRIAN DHATT                            Number: 3724
  To: MARK GRYN                                Date: 08/21/93  4:39p
Subj: OS/2 2.0 - Mitsumi CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thursday August 19 1993 11:33, Mark Gryn wrote to all:

 MG>     Can someone help me?  Or...anyone got an OS/2 driver for Mitsumi
 MG> drives?

Here is the ordering info for the good driver (German, more features than
Florida version):

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CompuServe Mail

Date:  19-Aug-93 14:05 EDT
From:  Torsten Droste[totronik] [100064,1346]
Reply to: Mitsumi OS/2 driver

Hi Brian,

USA and Canada residents can order directly from our US distributor


                     MICROWARE TECHNOLOGY DISTRIBUTING, Inc.
                     51 Maplewood Avenue
                     Albany, NY 12205
                     USA
                     Phone: (518) 438-2512
                            (800) 382-2405
                     Fax:   (518) 438-4002


======

I also have a Fido address to get it directly from Germany if needed.

Brian

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 3725
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/22/93  1:01p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PR> I really need TWO if there is any left, or one if 
 PR> thats all is left. Can you please send them COD if 
 PR> possible.

They are gone but if I can get more I'll give you a call. Thanks

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 3726
  To: JERRY SMITH                              Date: 08/23/93  6:40a
Subj: Nodelist/copyright                      Refer: 7134
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Hi Tim--Get ahold of the U.S. Supreme Court Report for Feist
-> Publicactions, Inc. v Rural Telephone Service Company, Inc.
-> (113 L Ed 2d 358), decided March 27, 1991.  It provides a clear,

Thanks Jerry... I'll take a look at it.

tim
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3727
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93 12:24a
Subj: 7TH GUEST ONLY $39!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 *************************************************************************
                          7TH GUEST SPECIAL OFFER!
 *************************************************************************

       PRICE:  $39!!        In stock, ready for immediate delivery.

 MINIMUM Requirements:  2 Megs RAM * 386DX CPU * 16 bit SVGA video card
 with at least 512K RAM * CD-ROM Drive w/ 150K per second minimum transfer
 rate * Sound card w/ FM and PCM sound * Mouse * Hard drive w/ 10 Megs free
 MSCDEX 2.2 or higher * DOS 5.0

 RECOMMENDED Hardware:  486sx 20mhz or faster CPU * 4 Megs RAM * Fast
 16 bit SVGA video card w/ 1 Meg RAM or local bus video * CD-ROM drive w/
 300k per second transfer rate and less than 300 ms access time * Roland
 LAPC-1, MT-32, or Sound Canvas and 16 bit PCM Sound Card

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
       "This is the new standard in multimedia entertainment.  This
        is the future."       - Bill Gates, Chairman Microsoft Corp.
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3728
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/22/93 12:24a
Subj: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES                Refer: NONE
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BR>SH>   > 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256
BR>SH>   > From Original 35mm Slides
BR>SH>
BR>SH>          Blaine, pardon me for asking, but why would anyone pay for a
BR>SH>  disk filled with gifs of senior citizens ? :-)
                                                   ^^^
BR>Mr. Hecker, I don't know what YOU are looking for (teenage girls?),
BR>but senior citizens, THE MODELS ARE NOT!  The models that appear in
BR>"SOUTHERN BEAUTIES" are not only extremely attractive but appear
BR>regularly in current issues of men's magazines and adult movies.

He was joking.  See the little smiley face?

BR>A GOOD TIME!  We have had complaints about the disc not being for
BR>use on BBSs, but none about the ages of the models or the fact that

For the third time:  Why does it have FILES.BBS if you don't want it
used on BBS's???

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3729
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93 12:24a
Subj: CD-ROM MASTER LIST 1/2                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 August 1993             DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 8/22
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                                   1 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00
 5-Star Premium Windows........27.00    Microsoft Musical Instruments.57.00
 7th Guest.....................45.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........49.00
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    Middle East Diary.............35.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    MIDI Music Shop...............27.00
 American Business Phonebk 91..17.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50
 American Business Phonebk 92..19.00    Monarch Notes.................59.00
 American Business Phonebk 93..39.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 Amiga AB20....................15.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...38.50
 Aminet Amiga (New!)...........15.00    Monster Media 93 (New!).......33.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......23.00    Mother of All Clipart.........23.50
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....25.50    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....24.00
 Audubon's Birds...............23.00    National Business Directory...29.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Barney Bear Goes to Space.....20.00    National Parks................29.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 4.1.................20.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 8.0.................25.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl 9.0 (In stock!).....29.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....13.00    Night Owl 8/9 2-Pak...........53.00
 Business Master...............20.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    North American Fax Book.......39.00
 California Collection.........17.00    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Canadian Shareware (New!).....22.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...19.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    Our Solar System..............13.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....29.50
 CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-SIG #12....................26.00
 CD Winbox (New!)..............25.00    PC-SIG #13 (Pre-orders).......39.00
 CD Grab Bag Disc..............19.00    PC Gameroom...................27.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Pentomino.....................32.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phethean's Shareware #1.......15.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phoenix 3.0 ($6 w/ any order).13.00
 Clipart Galore................28.00    Pier 1........................25.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 2........................33.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........25.00    Pier 3 (Pre-orders)...........39.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....19.00
 Composer Quest................34.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......88.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency....97.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........115.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....66.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....66.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........29.00
 Conan the Cimmerian...........33.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........27.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Crossword Cracker.............24.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Cybergenic Ranger (New!)......27.00    Q&A 4.0.......................39.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Reader's Library..............28.50
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Reel Clips (New!).............44.50
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Reference Library.............27.50
 Desktop Bookshop..............27.50    Return to the Moon (New!).....36.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...42.00
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............33.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
 DTPro.........................28.50    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
 Eagle Eye Shareware (New!)....25.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Electronic Cookbook (New!)....33.00    Shareware Online 1............25.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3730
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93 12:24a
Subj: CD-ROM MASTER LIST 2/2                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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                                   2 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Shareware Online 2 (New!).....39.00
 Empire Clipart................29.00    Shareware Overload............13.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Shareware Studio 1............20.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........15.00    Shareware Studio 2............25.00
 European Monarchs.............35.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Family Doctor.................29.50    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.00
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......29.00    Sights & Sounds...............25.00
 Find-It Webster...............49.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Font Master 2.................28.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Shareware 2...........27.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....28.00
 Game Arena (New!).............13.00    Software Vault 1..............22.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....24.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..19.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Gameware Collection...........24.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Soundware Collection (New!)...27.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    SoundWAV......................25.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Global Explorer...............93.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Space Quest IV................24.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Grolier's Ill. Ency. 2.0......35.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Grolier's MM Ency. 5.0........45.00    Street Atlas USA..............86.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency. 1.5.......47.50    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...23.00    Super CD 2....................27.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....16.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Super Games For Windows.......16.00
 Hamware 1993 (New!)...........28.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Technotools...................13.00
 House of Games................22.50    Tempra Access Photo Software..25.00
 Illustrated Holy Bible........47.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....45.00    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Total Baseball................27.00
 Jets & Props..................31.50    Trump Castle..................28.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00    U.S. & World Atlas............25.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 King's Quest V................24.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 King's Quest VI (New!)........47.00    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........23.50    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............34.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    U.S. Wars: WWII...............34.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00    Up All Night Shareware (New!).17.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    VGA Spectrum 1................14.00
 Libris Britannia..............42.00    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 Lion's Share..................22.00    Visions of Saturn.............23.00
 Loom..........................19.00    Vital Signs...................45.00
 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...39.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Mac Shareware (New!)..........24.00    Win/OS2.......................17.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........35.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Magnum One Shareware..........27.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Magnum Sight & Sound..........27.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Majestic Places...............38.50    World Atlas MPC...............26.50
 Manhole.......................35.50    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World Traveler (New!).........15.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............28.00    World View....................24.00
 Mega Clipart (New!)...........29.00    World Vision 3-Pak............45.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......56.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground 
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3731
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93 12:24a
Subj: ADULT CD MASTER LIST                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 August 1993              ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST         Last update: 8/22
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    PC-PIX 1......................30.00
 After Dark Trilogy (New!).....45.00    PC-PIX 2......................30.00
 All Beauties (New!)...........33.00    PC-PIX 3......................30.00
 Amateur Models (New!).........35.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 Animation Fantasies 1 or 2....29.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Porkware 2....................37.00
 Busty Babes 3.0...............33.00    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........28.00    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Erotic Encounters 1...........36.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Erotic Encounters 2 (New!)....36.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........49.00
 Girls of Vivid 1 (New!).......45.00    Seymore Butts Interactive.....49.00
 Girls of Vivid 2 (New!).......45.00    Smutware......................32.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................29.00    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................29.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......30.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................29.00    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............29.00    Storm 2.......................28.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00    Storm 3.......................28.00
 Luscious Ladies (New!)........35.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Total Fantasie (New!).........33.50
 My First Time (Adult Film)....39.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 Mystique of the Orient (Film).59.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 Nightwatch Interactive........49.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: RICK FISHER                            Number: 3732
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/22/93 10:26p
Subj: Re: Hitachi drive for sale              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a Trident VGA/SVGA 1mg on board
it has software drivers disk and works
well it's also 16bit board. Trade for
your cd drive. does it come with controller
and drivers? let me know here, rick


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From: STEVE HECKER                           Number: 3733
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/22/93  8:35p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > In a message to Blaine Richard <08-18-93 
 > 00:02> Steve Hecker wrote:
 > 
 > SH>   > 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 > SH>   > From Original 35mm Slides
 > SH>
 > SH>          Blaine, pardon me for asking, but 
 > SH> why would anyone pay for a
 > SH>  disk filled with gifs of senior citizens ? :-)
 > 
 > Mr. Hecker, I don't know what YOU are looking 
 > for (teenage girls?),
 > but senior citizens, THE MODELS ARE NOT!  The 

        A sense a humor you have ... NOT.

        

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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 3734
  To: ALL BULLETIN BOARD SYSTEMS               Date: 08/22/93 12:47p
Subj: NEW CD - SOUTHERN BEAUTIES              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

********* MAKE ADDITIONAL INCOME FROM YOUR SUBSCRIBERS *********

************* FROM THE SALE OF "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES" *************
------------------- NOT FOR USE ON YOUR BBS --------------------

GRAPHICAL IMAGES OF FLORIDA, INC. HAS A PACKAGE AVAILABLE THAT
INCLUDES:

                A custom ANSI and ASCII screen for your BBS -
                to announce the disc, it's price, and the
                availability of the demo for downloading
                from your BBS or by mail order, which
                includes sample GIFs from "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES"
                in a file named:

                SB_DEMO.EXE


Please send your BBS name, mailing address, BBS number and voice
number, and A STATEMENT THAT YOU ARE OVER 21 YEARS OLD - along
with $5.00 to cover the cost of postage & handling, the disk,
and a padded mailer to:

                        GRAPHICAL IMAGES OF FLORIDA, INC.
                        P. O. Box 941151
                        Maitland, FL 32794-1151

Please call 407-831-3011 if you have any questions or need any
additional information.  
 
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From: ALBERT AFONSO                          Number: 3735
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/21/93 12:18p
Subj: MM Encyclopedia                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

Looking for a GOOD Encyclopedia with multimedia capabilities. If anyone has
suggestions or anything for sale, please let me know. I've heard that Comptons
MM Encyclopedia is pretty good.

Take care,

Albert Afonso

Fax      : (305)424-0465
Internet : albert@alpha.acast.nova.edu
Fidonet  : 1:369/83

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From: ALBERT AFONSO                          Number: 3736
  To: GREG MANTER                              Date: 08/22/93 10:59a
Subj: Multimedia Items For Sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Greg!

17 Aug 93 19:00, Greg Manter wrote to All:

 GM> The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia 1992 Guinness Disk
 GM> of Records: Multimedia Version

How much would you be interested for either of these of both?

Take care,

Albert Afonso

Fax      : (305)424-0465
Internet : albert@alpha.acast.nova.edu
Fidonet  : 1:369/83

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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 3737
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 08/21/93  2:07p
Subj: CD+G                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Vito! (Hope I spelled your name right<grin>)
 I received the M.O. and mailed your CD+G's out the same day.I sent them 4th
class,as you did not send enough P&H for 1st(Priority was $3.90)but it should
get there fairly soon.

Enjoy!!

                           Diana

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From: BRIAN CLEMONS                          Number: 3738
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  1:34p
Subj: SALE!                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Many CD titles for sale!  If interested and are in the Sac, CA. or in the
states.  Call 916-689-3382 and ask for Brian!
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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 3739
  To: JIM NEUMILLER                            Date: 08/21/93 11:53a
Subj: Re: DAK CD-ROM SUPPORT                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
 -=> Quoting Zachary Hamm to All <=-
 
 JN> Do you suppose you could post me the phone number for DAK?  I haven't 
 JN> ordered in awhile....so dropped off the mailing list....

Must have been QUITE A WHILE since I haven't ordered in over two years and
still get their catalog - numbers:

1-800 nrs:

Tech Info - 888-9818
Any Other - 888-7808
TDD       - 888-6703
Credit card orders: -325-0800

not toll free:

Fax 1-818-888-2837
DAK BBS 1-818-715-7153

times 8 to 5, M to Fri.

HOpe this helps.
... Abandon hope, all ye who <ENTER> here.
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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 3740
  To: RITA LAWS                                Date: 08/22/93  3:51p
Subj: GRANDMA AND ME                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Hi. If your other buyer drops out in a few weeks, please
 > leave me a note. I am interested in CD programs for
 > children, new and used. Have a nice day.

Have Interactive Storytime Volumes one and two for $20 each.

Vikki

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From: RITA LAWS                              Number: 3741
  To: TONY DAVIS                               Date: 08/21/93 11:15p
Subj: OIE                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Tony, Sorry to hear about all of the uncertainty. Are you refunding members'
memberships since you do not know if you will be back on-line? Rita

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From: TONY DAVIS                             Number: 3742
  To: RITA LAWS                                Date: 08/22/93  1:43p
Subj: OIE                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >Tony, Sorry to hear about all of the uncertainty. Are you refunding 
 >members' memberships since you do not know if you will be back on-line? 
 >Rita

Rita, the OIE BBS is a wholly owned subsidiary of Mid America Digital
Publishing.  All assets of Mid America Digital were seized. If legal
procedures are not successful in the return of all MAD's assets (including the
OIE BBS), there is nothing to return.

Also, all membership records are on the network equipment that was seized. 
Without it, I do not even have a list of members, addresses, expiration dates,
etc.

Tony

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From: GERALD RYCKMAN                         Number: 3743
  To: DYLAN GORDON                             Date: 08/20/93 11:30p
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DG>>        I'm looking for a G-RATED CD of GIf's....  I think Gif's Galore
would
  >>be good, but does anyone know of a Good one?

Hi there...if you happen to know any other titles that are either G-
rated or at the most R-Rated, please let me know. I didn't know GIF's 
Galore is a G-Rated CD. Hmmm...maybe I should check it out. The only 
one I know is Night Owl's Graphic CD Volume 1. I think they're selling 
it for $39 US. From the looks of the file descriptions, it seems like 
a pretty average, so-so G/PG-rated CD. For that price, I guess it's 
also worth trying.

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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 3744
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/21/93  2:05p
Subj: NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS CD VER               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*@SUBJECT:NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS CD VERSION 1 !!!!                        N
                TCM Computing and Night Owl Publisher Inc,

                            Proudly Announce:

                        NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS v1 !!!

The same team that brought you Night Owl 9 has now joined forces to bring
you the very BEST in Graphics!!  This new CD contains over 640 Meg. of
high-resolution GIFs and JPGs, as well as TIF, TGA, PCX, Animations,
Clipart, Fractals, Windows wallpaper and icons, plus graphics programs and
utilities:  over 4,200 of the best graphics files from '92 & '93.

                  Availability: Early Sept.
                  Special Introductory Price:  $39 !!
                  Rated: PG

We are still working on the final touches, but if you would like to see
a *preliminary* set of DIRs, call TCM BBS (we are the Official Night Owl
Support Board) and download NIGHT_G1.ZIP.

TCM is now accepting advance orders for this outstanding new disk.  Those
of you on our mailing list will shortly receive an announcement with some
additional *special offers*.  Night Owl Graphics v1 may be ordered from
TCM in several ways:

  - send check/money order with $39+$3s/h to the address below,
  - call us voice (leave a message if we aren't available)
  - Send us a Fax for Credit Card and COD Orders
  - Call the BBS and leave a message to the Sysop for COD Orders
  - Call the BBS and use the ORDER Door for Credit Card Orders

        TCM will have the new disk before ANYONE else!

 [ TCM is an Official Night Owl Distributor - Dealers call for Pricing ]

TCM Computing                                        (703) 439-8032
Rt. 2 Box 130                                        (703) 439-8237 Fax
Midland, Va. 22728                                   (703) 439-3060 BBS
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From: DON BRADEN                             Number: 3745
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/22/93  5:31p
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike, the disks arrived after our customs folks had decided on the tariff.
 I am having problems with My first time. My set up seems to comply with
the suggested one in the insert in the disk "jewel box" ie it has 2048 ram
and expanded memory etc. However, after the disk " asks" which resolution I
want and I reply. I get the annoucement " intermission" and the advice to
change to disk 2. I get exactly the same situation with disk 2. Any
suggestions as to how to get the movie going? Or maybe other readers of the
echo could advise. The other disks in the order work perfectly.
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From: ANISH ACHARYA                          Number: 3746
  To: DOUG SNELL                               Date: 08/22/93  9:24p
Subj: Remote Access 2.00                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Doug:

I have it and I have it set up.  That message was before it was out!!

Regards,

Anish Acharya 

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From: YVES DESJARDINS                        Number: 3747
  To: MIKE MCCUE                               Date: 08/22/93  8:25a
Subj: CD for trade...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Mike!

15 Aug 93 21:03, Mike McCue wrote to Yves Desjardins:

 MM>  I am interested in the Microprose Mantis and Civilization game..   All I
 MM> really have to offer is the Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
 MM> version 1.  I dont have any manuals.. but c'mon, how hard is it to
 MM> navigate an encyclopedia?  I can be reached at 1:395/18.79 or 43.79..

Sorry, but I already have this CD.

Yves

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From: CHAD STUDY                             Number: 3748
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93 12:00a
Subj: Busty 1.0                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm trying to figure out if I have Busty 1.0 or not...
 
Someone said that if it lacked the text dir it is.
Mine has no directory that is labeled as "text".
Files.BBS in the different sections... yes it has that.
 
But the CD has to imprint of Graphic Software, the case it came in
has Sextasy Software on it.....
 
Anyone know?
 
------------
 
Also when is that darn Amiga CD coming out?

Chad

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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 3749
  To: ALL BULLETIN BOARD SYSTEMS               Date: 08/22/93  3:32p
Subj: New CD - Southern Beauties              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

************** GRAPHICAL IMAGES OF FLORIDA, INC. ***************
============================ Presents ==========================

*********************** Southern Beauties **********************
--------- A FULLY COMMERCIAL -- FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC ---------

675 Megs-Over 65 TOP MODELS-1000 GIFs-1024x768x256 From Original
35mm Slides-Includes 300 Megs of the Best Images in 24 bit True
Color. Installs Quickly & Easily - Menu Driven - User Friendly -
Popup Help - Mouse Support - Keyword Search - Sound Blaster
Front Loader - Multiple Directory Slide Show Capability

******************* NOT FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!! *****************

Since "Southern Beauties" may not be used on your BBS, YOU MAY
WANT TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE ON A MAIL ORDER BASIS.

********* MAKE ADDITIONAL INCOME FROM YOUR SUBSCRIBERS *********


GRAPHICAL IMAGES OF FLORIDA, INC. HAS A PACKAGE AVAILABLE THAT
INCLUDES:

                A custom ANSI and ASCII screen for your BBS -
                to announce the disc, it's price, and the
                availability of the demo for downloading
                from your BBS or by mail order, which
                includes sample GIFs from "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES"
                in a file named:

                SB_DEMO.EXE


Please send your BBS name, mailing address, BBS number and voice
number, and A STATEMENT THAT YOU ARE OVER 21 YEARS OLD - along
with $5.00 to cover the cost of postage & handling, the disk,
and a padded mailer to:

                        GRAPHICAL IMAGES OF FLORIDA, INC.
                        P. O. Box 941151
                        Maitland, FL 32794-1151

Please call 407-831-3011 if you have any questions or need any
additional information.  
 
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 3750
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 08/22/93  1:25p
Subj: AI CDRom                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    I am looking for any and all CDroms dealing with AI and Neural Nets,
if anyone has any for sale, or knows of any, I'd like to here about them!

Eric


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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 3751
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/23/93 12:25a
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TB> > Special.... for 1 week I'm offering used Hitachi 3500
  > > internal cd rom drives for $99.   I have about 20
  > > left.  30 day warranty included.   205-824-2552

Terry, did you get my messages of 2 weeks ago?  1) i was trying to find
out if you ever got any of the Hitachi 3600's in and secondly to see how
many of the 3500's you had left.


James
 þ OLX 3.10 31-0461 þ I laughed till I cried....Joel Siegal.


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From: ROBERT FOSTER                          Number: 3752
  To: DCQWK                                    Date: 08/22/93  8:14p
Subj: DROP                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: REBEL                                  Number: 3753
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/22/93 12:26p
Subj: Disk                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@ORIGIN :Southern Pride BBS 1:151/151                                N
-> >for two directories of text files called "STORY1" and "STORY2".  If
-> >they're *MISSING*, you've got a Rel. #1 !!
-> Super!  They are, and I do! <G>  Thanks, Bob.

I also have a ver 1 BB whats the big deal with it Eddie Goodman


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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 3754
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 08/22/93 10:55p
Subj: Busty Babes v1.0                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EP>  KT> I have Busty Babes First Edition for sale to the highest bidder.  It

EP> $15

    How about $15.25?

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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 3755
  To: TED KIDD                                 Date: 08/22/93 11:06p
Subj: MacIntosh CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On <19 Aug, 23:45>, Ted Kidd wrote to Craig Moser :

TK> CM> Giga-ROM v3 - Macintosh shareware cdrom

TK> 1)  Is it BBS compatible (IBM BBS that it...)?
TK> 2)  How much?
TK> 3)  What is the date of the disc?

If you find out, please let me know as well.  I have many callers who are Mac
based and would like to see some files too.

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From: DYLAN GORDON                           Number: 3756
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  8:41a
Subj: CDROM                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Can any Canadian distributors give me a price quote on the So Much
Screenware Gif CDROM, with shipping and handling?

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From: DOUG HUNKELE                           Number: 3757
  To: ANISH ACHARYA                            Date: 08/22/93  6:55a
Subj: Remote Access 2.00                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Remote Access 2.00
BY: Anish Acharya to Harry Wheat on Thu Aug 19 1993 04:52 pm

The real version of RA V2.00 came out on the 18th, freq RA_200.ARJ from
103/955, or d/l on first call to The Interchange BBS 714-498-8123, file is
800+K, system is running v32b/v42b.
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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 3758
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/22/93  7:51a
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BR> To the SYSOPS who do not like the fact that "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES" can
 BR> not be put on their BBS, we have recommended that they offer the disc
 BR> for sale on their BBS.  Many of them that followed our advice have
 BR> found that they can make more money from the sales of "SOUTHERN
 BR> BEAUTIES" than they do from subscription fees.  
 BR>  
I'm sure you'd love that.  Exclude the sysops by telling them they can't use it
on their BBS and then suggest they peddle it for ya!  Only an idiot would run a
BBS to make money as it is nearly impossible.  Most sysops uses that
subscription money to buy CD's for the BBS, etc.  Looks like they won't be
spending any of that sub money on this one.


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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 3759
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  3:05p
Subj: CDROM BBS Door!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll spare quoting Robert's advertisement.  Just wanted to reply and say it
ain't a bad deal for $20.  It has allready made my life much simplier.  About
the only thing I'd like to see that it doesn't do is allow users to search
offline ROMS and then request them generating a list which would be used to
prompt the sysop for the required disks so they could be copied to the HD.  But
that would be asking alot of any package (especially for only $20).  I don't
have any connection with Mr. Lee other than being a happy customer.


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3760
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93  3:31a
Subj: NEW ADDITIONS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ N E W  A D D I T I O N S ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
LAN MASTER - 100mgs - 2255 files - Utilities, Programs, Text, & More!
             Files.BBS Structure                             - PRICE - $29.
PRECISION  - v1.5 - Most Complete Mapping Program Of It's Kind! With CAD,
MAPPING      Zoom & Mouse Support + FREE Business Phone Book - PRICE - $79.
ROMATERIAL - Designer/Animated icons, Sound F/X in 6 languages, unique
             cursors,blankers, celebrity impressions & More! - PRICE - $25.
KINGS QUEST- ALL NEW adventure game with Super Graphics & Sound.
VI                                                           - PRICE - $49.
ORDER LINE ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759






Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't Read Mail Without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3761
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93  3:31a
Subj: RED HOT SPECIALS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$
 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX   PRICE - $15.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
   COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - -  24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: ROBERT LEE                             Number: 3762
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93 12:15p
Subj: BBS Door handles virtually any CDROM    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CDMX2DOR.ZIP provides direct updates to Maximus CBBS users.bbs/lastuser.bbs! 
If you are looking for a Maximus CDRom door, then try this one CDMX2DOR.ZIP
(311k, 14.4, 24hrs @ 1:232/31 FReq).
 
If you previously got CDMAXDOR and were disappointed by its performance, then
this door will make up for it <g>.  Beta tested.  Ask Chris Keufler (who
frequents this echo) how he likes CDMX2DOR.

CDMX2DOR.ZIP (311k 14.4 24hrs @ 1:232/31 FReq)

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From: ROBERT LEE                             Number: 3763
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93 12:28p
Subj: Put ANY CDRom Online!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CDMX2DOR.ZIP provides direct updates to Maximus CBBS users.bbs/lastuser.bbs! 
If you are looking for a Maximus CDRom door, then try this one CDMX2DOR.ZIP
(311k, 14.4, 24hrs @ 1:232/31 FReq).
 
If you previously got CDMAXDOR and were disappointed by its performance, then
this door will make up for it <g>.  Beta tested.  Ask Chris Keufler (who
frequents this echo) how he likes CDMX2DOR.

CDMX2DOR.ZIP (311k 14.4 24hrs @ 1:232/31 FReq)

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From: ROBERT LEE                             Number: 3764
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93 12:33p
Subj: Maximus BBS CDRom door                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CDMX2DOR.ZIP provides direct updates to Maximus CBBS users.bbs/lastuser.bbs! 
If you are looking for a Maximus CDRom door, then try this one CDMX2DOR.ZIP
(311k, 14.4, 24hrs @ 1:232/31 FReq).
 
If you previously got CDMAXDOR and were disappointed by its performance, then
this door will make up for it <g>.  Beta tested.  Ask Chris Keufler (who
frequents this echo) how he likes CDMX2DOR.

CDMX2DOR.ZIP (311k 14.4 24hrs @ 1:232/31 FReq)

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From: KEVIN KING                             Number: 3765
  To: ED KELLERMANN                            Date: 08/22/93  5:12p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom List                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

send me a copy of yur Cd-Disk catalog as well.

Kevin King, SysOp
'My Favorite BBS' 916-381-2851
P.O. Box 277482
Sacramento, CA, 95827


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From: JOHN ROBERTSON                         Number: 3766
  To: ED KELLERMANN                            Date: 08/22/93 10:15p
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi, Ed! recently you asked...
 EK> Boris,
 EK>   Pardon my seeming stupidity, but what is the 
 EK> difference between a Pioneer 
 EK> DMR600 and a DMR604X changer ?  Do you also sell them bundled with the
Well, other replies notwithstanding, the DRM604 also is photo-cd compatible and
has a faster access and disc changing sequence. The DRM 600 is now obsolete and
will shortly be unavailable.
:-#

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From: ADAM GILBERT                           Number: 3767
  To: JOSHUA ECKERMAN                          Date: 08/21/93 11:26a
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Do you know where i can get a good external cd-rom drive? I
 > dont need any extra software or anything just a drive. Later
 > I'll will be looking for a shareware disc. thanks.
 > ---
Hmmm....a mail order place somewhere.  I would suggest a Magnavox Exterenal if
you are going to be using it for a bbs.  They're slow, but they will work just
fine for a bbs.
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From: CHIP MORROW                            Number: 3768
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/22/93  9:19p
Subj: 7TH GUEST ONLY $39!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>                           7TH GUEST IS HERE!!!

MS>        PRICE:  $39!!        In stock, ready for immediate delivery.

I have the same question someone else recently asked...

Is this the "full" version with the video?


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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3769
  To: CHAD STUDY                               Date: 08/20/93 10:12p
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Allright!  The responce I have been looking for ( Allthough I thank the
> generous people who were trying to help me out ( and make a buck
> heheheh.. ) )
> Are these files going to be orginized like Pier 2 or Night Owl 9 ?
> Or at least will every file have a description?
> I need a good Amiga CD for my BBS.
Hi Chad,
The individual is doing Amiga disk has published another shareware BBS disk in
the past and his disk is a good one despite to age of the programs. I am sure
he is doing a good job and this disk will be another winner in the market. The
price is right also!...:-) TTYL 

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From: DAVID HARRISON                         Number: 3770
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 08/22/93  4:36p
Subj: Re: Night Owl 9 $25                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KP>   Night owl has a FILES.BBS, and it's a pretty nice CD.  It has about 60 fi
KP> areas, You can freq the complete list of files from me if you like ??  The 
KP> magic Name will be NIGHT
KP> 
KP>                         .....|<evin
I am not good with this freqing and routing stuff, so if you could, just 
rroute it to me at 1:124/1211

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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 3771
  To: PAT RILEY                                Date: 08/23/93  8:37a
Subj: Multimedia Items For Sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry Pat,
     I can't let it go for that little.  Thanks for the offer!


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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 3772
  To: TYLER MIELNICHUK                         Date: 08/23/93  8:43a
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Tyler,
     I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM drive (MPC Compatible) hooked up to my
SoundBlaster Pro that I'd like to sell.  It also comes with eleven CD's. 
Everything hooks up well to make a multimedia system.  If you already have a
SoundBlaster, I could sell you the drive and all eleven CD's for around $400. 
If you are interested give me a call at (614) 363-8201.  Thanks. Greg


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3773
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/23/93 12:00p
Subj: Disk                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Great! Since my last reply, I've also learned that the words "Graphic 
Software" only appear on the Rel. 1 disk. Last I read, Boris got  something
like $425 for his BB/R1!!  I think I'll hang on to mine for a  while...(:> 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3774
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 08/23/93 12:01p
Subj: X movie review cd                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The subject line was left over from a previous  reply, I think - just  like it
is here - again. 
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3775
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/22/93  1:56p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I have one copy of Busty Babes Version 1.0.  Anyone
 > interested in
 > bidding on it, please call or write.  Serious offers
 > starting at $250
 > only please.  Thank you!

 > Computer Works
 > Rt 3 Box 794-B
 >  Jim...
 > Ashford, AL 36312
 > (205) 793-4481 Voice
 > (205) 671-0092 BBS

    I am not buying I am selling BB#1, to best offer.
                                   Thanks anyway
                                      Pat
                               512-939-9822

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3776
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/22/93  2:01p
Subj: BB                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Are you looking for Busty Babes #1 as I have one. I have a offer of 275.00 but
its not ferm yet.
    Give me a call if you are interested.
                 Pat
                     512-939-9822

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3777
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  2:16p
Subj: Busty Babes for sale/trade              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Are you low on money but would like to get a hold of that all talked about CD
BB#1? Well heres your chance. I am looking for a cd player for my son, now I'm
talking about a good used one! Or maybe you have some old CDs that you would
like to trade. Also looking for a fast modem, tape backup or a mother board no
slower than a 386 40dx.
           Give me a call if you are interrested. Not everyone has cash.
                              Pat 512-939-9822

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From: MARLINA MALONEY                        Number: 3778
  To: MATT PETERSON                            Date: 08/18/93  9:34a
Subj: Mitsumi LU005 CDROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I was wondering if someone out there could tell me if it is a good deal
 > to get a Mitsumi LU005 Internal ISA CD-ROM drive for $225, or does
 > anyone out there have a cheaper source?  Or is that a good deal.

I purchased my LU005 from Ismail at Groupware for $175. Call 1-800-373-0628.

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From: MARLINA MALONEY                        Number: 3779
  To: ANISH ACHARYA                            Date: 08/21/93  5:04p
Subj: Remote Access 2.00                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >        Hello!  Just thought I'd point out that Remote-Access 2.00
 >        has internal support for drive switching.  Right now, RA 2.00
 >        is gamma (only available to Registered Users).  But I think
 >        the final release will be out before X-Mas.  Just though I'd
 >        let you know!!

The full blown non-gama release just popped into the RAFDN two days ago and is
now floating around the boards. Just thought I would let "you" know. Made it
well before x-mas.

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From: PAUL DIESTELHORST                      Number: 3780
  To: TONY DAVIS                               Date: 08/23/93  2:05p
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to Mike Shannon, Tony Davis said:


 > >life on the edge. I'll take ALL THE BUSTY'S I CAN GET MY HANDS ON!

Hey, where can I get a copy of Busty Babes and how much?

                                            Paul

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From: PAUL DIESTELHORST                      Number: 3781
  To: HARRY WHEAT                              Date: 08/23/93  2:17p
Subj: 6 disk cd-rom changer                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to All, Harry Wheat said:

 > I am looking for a BBS program that will run a 6 disk Cd-rom
 > changer on a BBS. I have looked all over and can't find
 > anything. If anyone knows of anything please leave me a
 > message.    Thank's
 >                                           Harry Wheat.......
Try The New RemoteAccess BBS 2.0 it haddles my Pioneer DRM-600 just fine and I
have two nodes. It lets you select an option to copy from the CD-ROM to your
harddrive freeing your CD-ROM for the other line to also access it. I have seen
users downloading the same program at the same time.

                                                    Paul

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From: PAUL DIESTELHORST                      Number: 3782
  To: JONATHAN MCGIRR                          Date: 08/23/93  3:22p
Subj: CD ROM Disk                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to Scott Martin, Jonathan Mcgirr said:

 > Not sure whether you want to be legal or not? Cracks are
 > illegal copies
 > of commercial software, or aren't you aware of that?


No, they arn't they are only tools used to do make illegal use of software. You
know that thing with the descambler for Cable T.V.? They sell them legal ,but
only for testing purposes. (HAHA)

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 3783
  To: ART BREAULT                              Date: 08/22/93  6:56a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> My mitsumi drive is model crmc-lu002 internal. My interface is ide. I
-> cheat a little in the installation because I had the installation sof
-> install the drive into autoexec and config then I removed the lines
-> concerning the software interface and add it only on a menu program
-> then I used qemm and quardeck managers to load all into high memory.
-> Almost everytime had trouble with a software cd in was due to lack of
-> memory on the low end .Example on my disc Great Literature a file nam
-> discpack must load into low memory or the cd will act like it doesnt
-> exist. Without the file properly loaded the drive doesnt understand t
-> data on the disc. With the software access file installed you should
-> able to get a e E:\ prompt and run a dir read. Some cd rom have files
-> are 570k and that 570k must go into low memory. You can have 32meg of
-> memory but if only 565k are available low the cd wont read. The Compt
-> upgraded encyclopedia requires 4 meg operating memory, but a certain
-> amount must be under 640k or base memory. Your cd rom should come up
-> e:\ and print out a dir list.This means that your rom "sees" the data
-> Once that is established then to "read" the cd the langage must be pl
-> in low memory.This file is like the read files that load into memory
-> you run any program "they access the files" dos is not the langage of
-> of the things on the cd and certain compressions and data reguire tha
-> file to read.
->          If you are able to come up with a e:\ drive and are able to
-> the data then you are having a memory or a software problem .
Maybe you got me mixed up with somebody else? First, I would have to
have a CD-ROM program in order to have a conflict. I didn't get any with
the drive, and haven't gotten any yet.
I do have some music CD's though.

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 3784
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 08/22/93  2:35p
Subj: MITSUMI AUDIO                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Not applicable - I have never owned a sound card (though I'm looking
-> ATI
-> as a possible future aquisition)....
I currently have the ATI Stereo F/X. It is a TERRIFIC card!
I am going to upgrade to the Stereo F/X CD. It has a Mitsumi interfac,
compatible with SBPro and also has enhanced noise filtering.

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: DON BRADEN                             Number: 3785
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/23/93  4:08p
Subj: order                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Mike, I have solved the problem with " My first time".
 I juggled around my config.sys and autoexec.bat to eliminate a couple
of drivers and lo and behold the disks worked perfectly. 

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From: JAMES PUNG                             Number: 3786
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93 10:17p
Subj: For sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                           *****  FOR SALE *******

(8) 1megx9 Simms 70 ns          $35 ea. obo (1) Video Blaster              
$200 obo (1) Toshiba CD-ROM Drive
    XM-3401B (bare)             $350 obo (1) Toshiba CD-ROM Drive and
Proaudio Spectrum 16 Multimedia kit.
                                $480 obo (1) Medium Tower, 200 watt P/S  $60
 obo

Leave message if interested...


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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 3787
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 08/21/93  2:08a
Subj: 7th guest $40                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> IA> For a limited time 7th Guest $40 plus shipping. ($3 US, $6
-> international).

-> Is this the full, retail version with box and video, or is it the
-> "cheap" version with disc only?

   Why... ya want the FULL version?  If so, we may be able to work out a
trade, if ya got any of your disks left....

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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 3788
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/21/93  2:12a
Subj: Re: new cd southern beaut               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Mr. Hecker, I don't know what YOU are looking for (teenage girls?),
-> but senior citizens, THE MODELS ARE NOT!  The models that appear in
-> "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES" are not only extremely attractive but appear

Uhhh.... I think that you failed to see the HUMOR in his post...

-> SH>   > 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256
                    ^^^^^^^

Re-Read the ABOVE section, it _could_ be taken either way, but I'm sure
everyone seriously knew what you were talking about...

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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 3789
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  2:20p
Subj: Prophone disks needed....               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  I am looking for the ProPhone Set, preferably the 93 edition, but will
consider the 92 edition.  I have several disks that I could swap you for
the set, or if the price is right, could purchase.  If interested, reply
and I'll send you a list of disks that I have.

``              Todd

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3790
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93 10:36p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What's up I thought this CD was selling like hot cakes? I sill have one and
would like to sell it. So anyone that is interested give me a call at
512-939-9822 before the price of this CD goes up to high to buy!
         Also will trade for CD player, CD's, tape backup, or mother board (at
lest a 40dx). Also in need of some simms. Call and lets make a deal!
                                  Pat

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 3791
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93  6:52p
Subj: scsi cdrom                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



SCSI CDROMs For Sale:

Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00

Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac.  Features 50 Pin True SCSI, 
300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and 64k Buffer.
Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty

205-837-5053 anytime.




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From: VADE FORRESTER                         Number: 3792
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/19/93  8:57p
Subj: Re: 2 ROMS FOR SALE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What year is the Bookshelf?

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From: CHARLEY WEBB                           Number: 3793
  To: DAVID HARRISON                           Date: 08/23/93  3:31p
Subj: Night Owl 9 $25                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DH >KP>  ******************************************************************
DH >KP>  *********                                                *********
DH >KP>  ***********           $ 25.00 a Copy !!!               ***********
DH >KP>  *********                                                *********
DH >KP>  ***********                                            ***********
DH >KP>  *********               Ask for Barney                   *********
DH >KP>  ***********           ------------------               ***********
DH >KP>  *********               1-800-638-5757                   *********
DH >KP>  ***********                                            ***********
DH >KP>  *********           We Will NOT be out Sold              *********
DH >KP>  ***********                                            ***********
DH >KP>  ******************************************************************

Thats odd, I paid $15.00 for a new Night Owl #9 cd.

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From: CHARLEY WEBB                           Number: 3794
  To: MARK WILLIAMSON                          Date: 08/23/93  5:13p
Subj: SONY CD ROM                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to All, Mark Williamson said:
MW >I have two Sony CD Rom drives Model CDU535-01.  Can someone
MW >out there tell me if these are good drives and what kind of
MW >interface card they connect to.  I got them at a swap meet
MW >and don't know how to hook them up.  What about
MW >terminator/DRQ settings?  Help me somebody!

Well I own 4 of them now, they are ok drives, but do not meet the MPC
requirements, so all I use them for is files. Did you get a controller with
them??? If not I have an extra here, if you want, I can be reached at
(203)379-8572.

... This copy of GEdit has been unregistered for 47 days.

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From: CHARLEY WEBB                           Number: 3795
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93  5:35p
Subj: Sony 535's wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for 2 Sony CD-ROM drives, Model CDR-535, if anyone has any,
please leave me a message.

... This copy of GEdit has been unregistered for 47 days.

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 3796
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 08/22/93  2:27p
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>Hi All;
JR>   Could one of you techies out there help me with a minor nagginy
JR>   problem.  I play my cd as an audio, using PLAYCD,  whenever I'm
JR>   not using it for a ROM drive and it works except whenever I
JR>   start an UPLOAD it stops.  What makes this so confusing is that
JR>   it just keeps right on trucking when I download leading me to
JR>   believe that there's no interupt conflict.  This is the only
JR>   time I have problems with it.  It's a Mitsumi internal using the
JR>   latest drivers.  I use telix on com 1, with a USR 14.4, and
JR>   either Zmodem or HSlink.

Jim, I don't think it is solely a CD-ROM problem.  I think it's in Telix.  It
might also have to do with using COM1 (or 3) which have an IRQ that is lower in
priority than COM2 (or 4); that is to say, if the modem was on 1, and a mouse
or something was on 2, the modem would pause in its work to allow the mouse to
use the system.  Hardly a good idea.  Given an option, move the modem to 2 or
4.

Next, I'd have to ask if the UART is at least 16550AFN, and did you tell Telix
to enable it?  (ALT-M,G,O)  You get above 9600 speed with most modems, on most
phone lines, they upchuck without the 16550 buffer.

I frequently have a problem with uploads stopping in mid-stride, even at
slower speeds, and the problem is NOT related to the CD-ROM.  Telix does such a
fine job of communicating by actually going into the heart of the machine, and
not dealing with supportive circuitry, and absolutely not sharing resources
with ANYthing else.  That is why it will NOT work with any known FOSSIL.  I
have to use X00 FOSSIL to share the two COMports (1&3) I use with 2 Terminal
Node Controllers on my Ham Radio station.

As long as there is NO activity on either of these modem-like gadgets, I can
upload on the telephone modem on COM4 with no problem.  If a weather bulletin
begins on COM3 meanwhile, Telix halts.  Immediately! It just flat refuses to
share the CPU with the other COM ports!  But I can download at the same time on
all 3!
    ~~~~~~~~
My only option is to kill the two TNCs when I wish to upload, and hope I
remember to re-enable them when done.  BTW, I use Telemate on the TNCs because
it DOES allow FOSSIL sharing.  If it were anywhere near as good as Telix on the
phone, I'd use it there as well.

I hope this helps somehow.

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

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From: J. GRAVELLE                            Number: 3797
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 08/23/93  3:04p
Subj: MITSUMI W/ QEMM                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CB> DH>WT>Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to work
CB> DH>WT>with QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and should be able to be moved
CB> 
CB> DH>my drivers.So I put the Qemm line in my Config.sys so now
CB> DH>its just like running total Qemm except for Dos commands.  -
CB> 
CB> What do you mean?
CB> 
CB>  * SLMR 2.1 * Please smash head through monitor to continue.
CB> 
CB> --- Maximus 2.01wb
CB>  * Origin: The Airtight Garage, San Francisco, Cal. 415-641-0348 (1:12
CB> 
I was up half the night with this one myself, bud...
     get into the config.sys and autoexec.bat lines,
   and knock down the /M:## parameter little by 
little until you stop getting the "TOO BIG FOR MEMORY"
line.   ...MR. Dude   (414)289-0708  
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3798
  To: TOM SUTER                                Date: 08/24/93  3:07a
Subj: Re: U.S. Mail                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Boris,

>>         I received my order today (21 August) in good shape.  I
>>         thought I would let you know that Uncle Sam's service was
>>     not as good as the cost they charged you and, if there is a
>>     guarantee, you should ask for a refund.  I noticed you
>>     shipped by Two Day Priority Mail, but the postmark was 4 days
>>     ago.  This is in no way a complaint from me to you since, as
>>     I told you, I was not in any real rush to receive the disks,
>>     but I feel that the Postal Service should perform in
>>     accordance with their claims.

Glad to hear your order was recieved in tack. As for Uncle Sams service, it
has been pretty good for the most part when you concider that most pacakges
are received within the two or three day period. Although this is not a
guareented service, it still works faster and for less the UPS or FED EX.

>>         BTW, thanks for the flyers you enclosed.  Do you also
>>     happen to have a catalog later than the one you enclosed with
>>     my drive last winter?

As one of our customers, you will be getting our all new catalog as soon
as it's completed. I think you'll enjoy it as it offer a lot of nice
features, more so than any paper one could.

Take care......

Boris Osadciw

... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3799
  To: LARISSA KOHLER                           Date: 08/24/93  3:07a
Subj: Re: 6 CDROM changer                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I run a BBS with 3 online cdroms, but I only have 1 cdrom
>>    drive.  I was wondering if anyone knew of a 6 cdrom drive
>>    changer that ran by software.  I've seen 'em where you have to
>>    flip 'em manually, but I'd like to find one my users can flip.

There are several door programs that will allow you to do just want you
need above, regarding a 6 disk changer.

As we market both versions of the Pioneer unit's, we have a lot of customers
doing the same thing.

If you need further help, please feel free to call us at 216-225-3263
anytime and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3800
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93  3:07a
Subj: LIMITED SUPPLY                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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        and Windows Compatiable - Caddy System - Dasiy Chainable
        SCSI & SCSI 2 Support.   Refurbished - 90 day warranty

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 Purchase any current Shareware CD for $15. additional with drive!

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Boris Osadciw

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From: JIM MEINHARDT                          Number: 3801
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  4:41p
Subj: Billboard CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     I am look for a CD of Billboard Magazine.  I've seen this CD
advertised somewhere?!  If any dealer has it, leave me a note and tell
me the price.  Thanks.



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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 3802
  To: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN                        Date: 08/23/93  4:12p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Blaine Richard <08-20-93 21:33> Chris Christensen wrote:

CC>   > In a message to Blaine Richard <08-18-93 00:02> Steve
CC>   > Hecker wrote:
CC>
CC>   > SH>   > 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256
CC>   > SH>   > From Original 35mm Slides
CC>   > SH>
CC>   > SH>          Blaine, pardon me for asking, but why would anyone
CC>  pay for a
CC>   > SH>  disk filled with gifs of senior citizens ? :-)
CC>
CC>   > Mr. Hecker, I don't know what YOU are looking for
CC>   > (teenage girls?),
CC>   > but senior citizens, THE MODELS ARE NOT!  The models
CC>   > that appear in
CC>
CC>  Wow, it seems to me that you are being a little thin skinned. It
CC>  seems to me that the senior citizens remark is in response to the
CC>  line that says 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models- with the "OVER 65 Models"
CC>  being the keywords. Note also that he put the smiley at the end of
CC>  the remark.
CC>
CC>  I guess some people just can't see or take a little joke. Personally
CC>  I got a chuckle out of it.

Chris, if the people reading Mr. Hecher's message did not see
that he meant it as a joke as you did, it would appear that
the models on "Southern Beauties" weren't as young and
attractive as they are. I missed the smiley at the end of his
remark.

I thought Mr. Hecker had also misquoted my message. I just went
back to double check whether it was possible that Mr. Hecker
had not misquoted my message and discovered that he had not.

All of the announcements of the release of "Southern Beauties"
stated the disc contained "Over 65 'TOP' Models" except ONE
(message of Aug 10, 1993) which did say "Over 65 Models".

Since Mr. Hecker was joking and not trashing "Southern Beauties",
THEN I AM ONLY TOO HAPPY TO APOLOGIZE! I would have worded my
reply differently simply to make certain that other people would
not misunderstand.

If I appeared to you to be a little thin skinned, please be
advised, we went to a lot of trouble to make "Southern Beauties"
as good a disc as possible; making sure that EVERY scan was
extremely sharp, color corrected, and had a variety of poses on
each model; with a variety of types of models.

Again, I wrongly thought that Mr. Hecker was trashing the disc
and APOLOGIZE!  
 
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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 3803
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/23/93  4:14p
Subj: Re:  NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Blaine Richard <08-21-93 08:04> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>   BR> SH>   > 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256
BJ>  Don't mean to but in, Blaine, but I think Steve was trying to make a
BJ>  humorous reference to the syntax of your descriptive line (above).
BJ>  Note
BJ>  that it *could* be read as saying "..OVER 65 Models.." meaning
BJ>  they're
BJ>  more than 65 years of age instead of what I presume you meant, i.e.
BJ>  more
BJ>  than 65 different models. I haven't seen SB yet (waiting for Mike
BJ>  Shannon to send me a evaluation copy), but I'm familiar with some of
BJ>  the
BJ>  names you mentioned. They are indeed quite attractive. (:>>

Bob, if the people reading Mr. Hecher's message did not recognize
that it could have been a joke as you did, it would appear that
the models on "Southern Beauties" weren't as young and attractive
as they are.  I missed the smiley at the end of the remark.

I thought Mr. Hecker had also misquoted my message. I just went
back to double check whether it was possible that Mr. Hecker
had not misquoted my message and discovered that he did not.

All of the announcements of the release of "Southern Beauties"
stated the disc contained "Over 65 'TOP' Models" except ONE
(message of Aug 10, 1993) which did say "Over 65 Models".

Since Mr. Hecker was joking and not trashing "Southern Beauties",
THEN I AM ONLY TOO HAPPY TO APOLOGIZE!  I would have worded my
reply differently simply to make certain that other people would
not misunderstand.

We went to a lot of trouble to make "Southern Beauties" as good
a disc as possible; making sure that EVERY scan was extremely
sharp, color corrected, and had a variety of poses on each model;
with a variety of types of models.

I am anxious to read what you think about "Southern Beauties"
after you have had a chance to see it. Thanks for your message
explaining what Mr. Hecker may have meant. Again, I wrongly
thought that Mr. Hecker was trashing the disc and APOLOGIZE!  
 
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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 3804
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/23/93  4:18p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Steve Hecker <08-19-93 17:42> Blaine Richard wrote:

BR>  In a message to Blaine Richard <08-18-93 00:02> Steve Hecker wrote:
BR>  SH>          Blaine, pardon me for asking, but why would anyone pay
BR>  for a
BR>  SH>  disk filled with gifs of senior citizens ? :-)
BR>
BR>  Mr. Hecker, I don't know what YOU are looking for (teenage girls?),
BR>  but senior citizens, THE MODELS ARE NOT!  The models that appear in
BR>  "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES" are not only extremely attractive but appear
BR>  regularly in current issues of men's magazines and adult movies.
BR>  For example, Katie appears on the front cover and inside of CLUB's
BR>  October, 1993, issue and although they indicate she's 24 years old,
BR>  she is presently 19 and was 18 and 19 years old when she posed for
BR>  the images on "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES". Katie will also be in the October,
BR>  1993, issue of PENTHOUSE MAGAZINE. Crystal, Honey, and Angel are
BR>  all STARRING in current adult videos under the names Crystal Wilder
BR>  (24 years old), Bunny Blue (28 years old), and Angel Bust (23 years
BR>  old) respectively; while others are presently appearing in adult
BR>  videos.  With the exception of a few, every model has been published.
BR>
BR>  With regard to the models ages:
BR>   Jade (19 years old) who also appears on the back cover of the disc
BR>   Misty (18 years old) who also appears on the inside front cover
BR>   Maria (33 years old)
BR>
BR>  According to the photographer ALL the other models are between 19
BR>  years old and 29 years old WITH 90% OF THEM BEING BETWEEN THE AGES
BR>  OF 20 and 24 YEARS OLD.  I did not want to inconvenience the
BR>  photographer for more detailed information.
BR>
BR>  I suggest if you did not find the models on "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES" to
BR>  be young enough, that you find a supplier of kiddie porn and HAVE
BR>  A GOOD TIME!  We have had complaints about the disc not being for
BR>  use on BBSs, but none about the ages of the models or the fact that
BR>  they are not attractive.
BR>
BR>  To the SYSOPS who do not like the fact that "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES" can
BR>  not be put on their BBS, we have recommended that they offer the disc
BR>  for sale on their BBS.  Many of them that followed our advice have
BR>  found that they can make more money from the sales of "SOUTHERN
BR>  BEAUTIES" than they do from subscription fees.
BR>

Steve, if the people reading your message did not recognize that
you meant it as a joke, it would appear that the models on
"Southern Beauties" weren't as young and attractive as they
are. I missed the smiley at the end of your remark.

I thought you had also misquoted my message. I just went back to
double check whether it was possible that you had not misquoted
my message and discovered you had not.

All of the announcements of the release of "Southern Beauties"
stated the disc contained "Over 65 'TOP' Models" except ONE
(message of Aug 10, 1993) which did say "Over 65 Models".

Since you were not trashing "Southern Beauties", I AM ONLY TOO
HAPPY TO APOLOGIZE!  I would have worded my reply differently
simply to make certain that other people would not misunderstand.

We went to a lot of trouble to make "Southern Beauties" as good
a disc as possible; making sure that EVERY scan was extremely
sharp, color corrected, and had a variety of poses on each model;
with a variety of types of models.

Again, I wrongly thought that you were trashing the disc and
APOLOGIZE!  
 
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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 3805
  To: JEFF COCHRAN                             Date: 08/23/93  4:20p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Blaine Richard <08-21-93 16:31> Jeff Cochran wrote:

JC>   > JC>   >  ********** SOUTHERN BEAUTIES MAY NOT BE USED ON ANY BBS
JC>   > JC>
JC>   > JC>  Kinda cuts its market...
JC>
JC>
JC>   > To the SYSOPS who do not like the fact that "SOUTHERN
JC>   > BEAUTIES" can
JC>   > not be put on their BBS, we have recommended that they
JC>   > offer the disc
JC>   > for sale on their BBS.
JC>
JC>  It's not that I don't like it, I respect your decision to protect
JC>  your copyrights.  Just means I'm not a potential customer since I
JC>  don't have the time to stare at pretty women (alright, I can make the
JC>  time...) on the CD.
JC>
JC>  As for selling it, I'd be inclined to if I could get a reasonable
JC>  discount from you and you wouldn't turn around and offer it to my
JC>  users for less than I can sell it for. By reasonable discount, I'm
JC>  talking 35-50% off your retail price.

Jeff, thanks for your response. Graphical Images of of Florida
does not sell to anyone in quantities less than 2,000, so you
need not worry about our undercutting your retail price.

You may contact Fay Sharp at TradeShows, Inc. at 317-651-1223
to get her pricing. I think that her current pricing structure
for BBS operators is:

        Quantity                Unit            Cost

         1 to Retail buyers     40.00            40.00
         1 to Sysops buyers     29.00            29.00 
        10                      22.00           220.00
        50                      20.00         1,000.00

You could expect to sell Southern Beauties for between $ 35.00
and $ 40.00.

This would be over a 50% to 100% markup.

Blaine.  
 
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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 3806
  To: STEVE HECKER                             Date: 08/23/93  4:30p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Blaine Richard <08-18-93 00:02> Steve Hecker wrote:

SH>   >
SH>   > 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256
SH>   > From Original 35mm Slides
SH>
SH>
SH>          Blaine, pardon me for asking, but why would anyone pay for a
SH>  disk filled with gifs of senior citizens ? :-)

Regarding my reply of Aug. 19th:

Steve, if the people reading your message did not recognize that
you meant it as a joke, it would appear that the models on
"Southern Beauties" weren't as young and attractive as they
are. I missed the smiley at the end of your remark.

I thought you had also misquoted my message. I just went back to
double check whether it was possible that you had not misquoted
my message and discovered you had not.

All of the announcements of the release of "Southern Beauties"
stated the disc contained "Over 65 'TOP' Models" except ONE
(message of Aug 10, 1993) which did say "Over 65 Models".

Since you were not trashing "Southern Beauties", I AM ONLY TOO
HAPPY TO APOLOGIZE!  I would have worded my reply differently
simply to make certain that other people would not misunderstand.

We went to a lot of trouble to make "Southern Beauties" as good
a disc as possible; making sure that EVERY scan was extremely
sharp, color corrected, and had a variety of poses on each model;
with a variety of types of models.

Again, I wrongly thought that you were trashing the disc and
APOLOGIZE!  
 
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From: MARK GRYN                              Number: 3807
  To: YVES DESJARDINS                          Date: 08/23/93 10:54a
Subj: CD for trade...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  MM>  I am interested in the Microprose Mantis and Civilization game..

    I'm afraid I missed your original message, but, I assume that you have
this?  If it's a CD with both of those games on it, I'd like to get it from
you...

    Only CD game I've got to trade is Loom, by LucasFilm. Very cool, and I've
still got the manual of course...

    Barring that, I've also got a Colossal Cookbook CD that is chock full of
recipes...

    Lemme know, otherwise, how much are you willing to sell it for?
                                                     Ú·„ô³<

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From: DAVID ROBERTS                          Number: 3808
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/23/93  7:25p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes 1.0                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
 LN>No problem, Jim...the label film on the disc says, "Graphic Software" 
 >--Dealers now have bids for $350.00 per each 1.0 disc-- 
 >Versions 2.0 and 3.0 do not have these large font words on the disc film 
 >--If you have one of these, hold onto it-- 

I read this message you had left Lee and am just wondering why is this disk
so valuable, I paid $25 for it 6 months ago.

... "With the lights out, it's less dang'rous"
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From: RON BRIDGEMON                          Number: 3809
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/23/93 10:32p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       



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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 3810
  To: EVERYBODY                                Date: 08/23/93  8:21p
Subj: -=- The Storage Specialists -=-         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
-=- SAVE -=- SAVE -=- SAVE -=- SAVE -=- SAVE -=- SAVE -=- SAVE -=- SAVE -=-
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

-=- The Storage Specialists * 9400 W. 51st Avenue * Arvada, CO 80002 -=-
-=-
-=- CD ROM SPECIALS -=-
-=-
-=- TOSHIBA XM-3401
-=- Internal            200MS     505.00 -=-
-=- External            200MS     605.00 -=-
-=-
-=- TEAC CD-50
-=- Internal            270MS     405.00 -=-
-=- External            270MS     490.00 -=-
-=-
-=- MITSUMI
-=- Internal            350MS     189.00 -=-
-=-
-=- ORDERS ONLY: 
-=- 1.800.224.5150
-=-
-=- TECH SUPPORT/CURRENT PRICE LIST:
-=- 1.303.940.1012
-=-
-=- TERMS: We accept Visa/MasterCard (no service charge), Money Orders, 
-=- Personal and Company Checks, C.O.D.
-=-
-=- SHIPPING: We offer same day shipping on orders placed by 3pm MST, 
-=- provided we have stock. Shipping and Handling not included in prices 
-=- mentioned above.
-=-
-=- We also carry a HUGE selection of Hard Drives and Storage Devices!
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From: MARK GUTT                              Number: 3811
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 08/22/93  7:58a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes 1.0                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the offer, I'll keep you in mind.(But I won't hold my breath!!)

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3812
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/22/93  7:52p
Subj: PRECISION MAPPING UPDATE!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >I DONT HAVE THAT MUCH CASH BUT I AM WILLING TO GIVE UP 
  >MY NIGHT OWL'S CD AND LIKE SAY $10. COME ON 
  >MAN BE A BUD!!!!!! 
 
Now THAT's an offer too good to refuse! <Howl!>  You would only be 
losing $40 or $50, right?  Be a bud!  ;) 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3813
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/22/93  8:05p
Subj: CD ROM Disk                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>The GAMEWARE Collection is the best I've seen.  We have them in stock 
  >at $24.  Around 640mb of games, some older but mostly the newer releases. 
  >Fully BBS-compatible with file listings in several formats.  Gimme a 
  >call if you're interested! 
 
Hi Mike.  Can you send me one Gameware and charge it to my AMEX card? 
Let me know if there is any problem.  Thanks! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3814
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  8:30p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have just finished making our new CD-Rom catalog.  We have many new 
products and have reduced the price on a lot of the others.  If you 
would like a copy of this catalog, please log on and download 
catalog.zip.  It lists all of our titles with prices and descriptions. 
If you are looking for a shareware CD-Rom, be sure to check file area 
#15 for the file list.  Downloads permitted on the first call.  Thanks! 
 
Computer Works                                  Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 14.4k        Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
 
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From: CHRIS JOHNSON                          Number: 3815
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 08/23/93  5:40p
Subj: New Echo - Multimedia                   Refer: NONE
Read: 08/27/93  8:12p                       Private: No 

-> This echo also can be ported to any other sister nets and RIME.

 TH> If you use the FIDOnet nodelist, you have to adhear to FIDOnet
 TH> policy - policy that prevents cross posting mail in multiple networks.
 TH> RIME has similar policy, too.

 TH> The nodelist can only be used to "participate in FIDOnet"... This is
 TH> clearly stated at the beginning of the nodelist.  If you use the
 TH> nodelist for any other purpose, you'll be violating Tom Jenning's
 TH> copyright.  You probably don't care, based on your past business
 TH> practices.

 TH> tim
 TH> moderator



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From: CHRIS JOHNSON                          Number: 3816
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/23/93  5:41p
Subj: 7TH GUEST ONLY $39!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS>  
 MS> *******************************************************
 MS> *****************
 MS>                           7TH GUEST IS HERE!!!
 MS>  
 MS> *******************************************************
 MS> *****************

 MS>        PRICE:  $39!!        In stock, ready for immediate delivery.

 MS>  MINIMUM Requirements:  2 Megs RAM * 386DX CPU * 16 bit SVGA video card
 MS>  with at least 512K RAM * CD-ROM Drive w/ 150K per 
 MS> second minimum transfer
 MS>  rate * Sound card w/ FM and PCM sound * Mouse * Hard 
 MS> drive w/ 10 Megs free
 MS>  MSCDEX 2.2 or higher * DOS 5.0

 MS>  RECOMMENDED Hardware:  486sx 20mhz or faster CPU * 4 Megs RAM * Fast
 MS>  16 bit SVGA video card w/ 1 Meg RAM or local bus video * CD-ROM drive w/
 MS>  300k per second transfer rate and less than 300 ms access time * Roland
 MS>  LAPC-1, MT-32, or Sound Canvas and 16 bit PCM Sound Card

 MS>  ------------------------------------------------------
 MS> --------------------
 MS>        "This is the new standard in multimedia entertainment.  This
 MS>         is the future."       - Bill Gates, Chairman Microsoft Corp.
 MS>  ------------------------------------------------------

        Sorry.. but I have to add this:

                KINGS QUEST VI  (CD ROM VERSION)

                "Proof that the era of CD gaming is upon us"
                                        Peter Spear, QuestBusters

                "The Magic Is back and Sierra HAS another definite winner.
                In Kings Quest VI, Sierra UPS the Technology another notch."
                                                -PC Magazine

                "Bigger and Bolder, this is THE Adventure few can Resist."
                                                -Compute

                "The music and animation are EXCEPTIONAL, as is the story.
                 Hats off to Sierra for another sparkling gem."
                                                -Dragon

                "It is easy to see why Kings Quest is the best selling
                game series OF ALL TIME"
                                                -Computer Game Review

                "Kings Quest VI is not just EXELENT, its a LANDMARK
                GAME."
                                                -QuestBusters


                "A stunning -50 Meggabyte- animated introduction,
                created by KRONOS, The special effects masters who
                who brought you BATMAN RETURNS and LAWNMOWER MAN."

                "1024 by 480 SVGA and XGA 65,000,000 COLOR, PATENTED
                LIP-SYNCHING TECNOLOGY characters."




                        Just to add.. the price for this is
                        APPROX 70.00.

                I recomend that you team up with Sierra and get this
                on your price list.  maybe even at discounted prices..
                this game is well... FAR Beyond 7th Guest.. even though
                I would recomend it..  anyways... see if you can get
                KINGS QUEST VI CD ROM VER.  It'll sell SO fast.. I'll
                PROMISE you that..


                        Chris Johnson




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From: VBALLNUT                               Number: 3817
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 08/23/93 11:39p
Subj: Re: busty babes v1.0                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Michael Kelly to Eddie Phillips <=-

 EP>  KT> I have Busty Babes First Edition for sale to the highest
 MK> bidder.  It

 EP> $15

 MK> How about $15.25?

Ok, that sounds ok....where do I mail the check ??  Or if you live near
Raleigh or RTP, we could meet....let me know....thanks !!

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From: WILLIAM DUPREE                         Number: 3818
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 08/23/93  8:43p
Subj: New cd - southern beautie               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DV<<<675 Megs-Over 65 TOP MODELS-1000 GIFs-1024x768x256 From Original
  <<<35mm Slides-Includes 300 Megs of the Best Images in 24 bit True
  <<<Color. Installs Quickly & Easily - Menu Driven - User Friendly -
  <<<Popup Help - Mouse Support - Keyword Search - Sound Blaster
  <<<Front Loader - Multiple Directory Slide Show Capability

DV<<<******************* NOT FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!! *****************

DV<<<Since "Southern Beauties" may not be used on your BBS, YOU MAY
  <<<WANT TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE ON A MAIL ORDER BASIS.

DV<<<                        GRAPHICAL IMAGES OF FLORIDA, INC.
  <<<                        P. O. Box 941151
  <<<                        Maitland, FL 32794-1151

Give me a price on the cd..(I run a bbs too.) 9198706030 or reply here
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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 3819
  To: VBALLNUT                                 Date: 08/24/93  9:18a
Subj: busty babes v1.0                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

V>  -=> Quoting Michael Kelly to Eddie Phillips <=-

V>  MK> How about $15.25?

    That was my bid for the CD.

V> Ok, that sounds ok....where do I mail the check ??  Or if you live near

    I do not own the CD, I was making a counter-offer to the seller for it.

    If you own it, and are satisfied with that price, please let me know and we
can meet somewhere in the RTP area.

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 3820
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93  9:06p
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@SUBJECT:Wanted, Comptons encyclopedia                               N
If anyone has Comptons MPC Encyclopedia for sale used, I want it
leave message
-Jeff


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From: BILL ALEXANDER                         Number: 3821
  To: JOHN TRIMBACK                            Date: 08/24/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: CDROM Drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

John,

Yes I am refering to the SIMMs, sorry that I didn't use quoting!!


Later


Bill

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From: DYLAN GORDON                           Number: 3822
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  8:41a
Subj: Cdrom                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Can any Canadian distributors give me a price quote on the So Much 
Screenware Gif CDROM, with shipping and handling?
 
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From: DOUG HUNKELE                           Number: 3823
  To: ANISH ACHARYA                            Date: 08/22/93  6:55a
Subj: Remote Access 2.00                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Remote Access 2.00
BY: Anish Acharya to Harry Wheat on Thu Aug 19 1993 04:52 pm
 
The real version of RA V2.00 came out on the 18th, freq RA_200.ARJ from
103/955, or d/l on first call to The Interchange BBS 714-498-8123, file is
800+K, system is running v32b/v42b.
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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 3824
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/22/93  7:51a
Subj: Re: New Cd Southern Beauties            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BR> To the SYSOPS who do not like the fact that "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES" can
 BR> not be put on their BBS, we have recommended that they offer the disc
 BR> for sale on their BBS.  Many of them that followed our advice have
 BR> found that they can make more money from the sales of "SOUTHERN
 BR> BEAUTIES" than they do from subscription fees.  
 BR>  
I'm sure you'd love that.  Exclude the sysops by telling them they can't use
it
on their BBS and then suggest they peddle it for ya!  Only an idiot would run
a
BBS to make money as it is nearly impossible.  Most sysops uses that 
subscription money to buy CD's for the BBS, etc.  Looks like they won't be 
spending any of that sub money on this one.
 
 
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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 3825
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  3:05p
Subj: Cdrom Bbs Door!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll spare quoting Robert's advertisement.  Just wanted to reply and say it 
ain't a bad deal for $20.  It has allready made my life much simplier.  About 
the only thing I'd like to see that it doesn't do is allow users to search 
offline ROMS and then request them generating a list which would be used to 
prompt the sysop for the required disks so they could be copied to the HD. 
But
that would be asking alot of any package (especially for only $20).  I don't 
have any connection with Mr. Lee other than being a happy customer.
 
 
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3826
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93  3:31a
Subj: Red Hot Specials                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$
 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX   PRICE - $15.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
   COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - -  24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO
 
Boris Osadciw
 
... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: KEVIN KING                             Number: 3827
  To: ED KELLERMANN                            Date: 08/22/93  5:12p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom List                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

send me a copy of yur Cd-Disk catalog as well.
 
Kevin King, SysOp
'My Favorite BBS' 916-381-2851
P.O. Box 277482
Sacramento, CA, 95827
 
 
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From: JOHN ROBERTSON                         Number: 3828
  To: ED KELLERMANN                            Date: 08/22/93 10:15p
Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi, Ed! recently you asked...
 EK> Boris,
 EK>   Pardon my seeming stupidity, but what is the 
 EK> difference between a Pioneer 
 EK> DMR600 and a DMR604X changer ?  Do you also sell them bundled with the
Well, other replies notwithstanding, the DRM604 also is photo-cd compatible
and
has a faster access and disc changing sequence. The DRM 600 is now obsolete
and
will shortly be unavailable.
:-#
 
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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 3829
  To: PAT RILEY                                Date: 08/23/93  8:37a
Subj: Multimedia Items For Sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry Pat,
     I can't let it go for that little.  Thanks for the offer!
 
 
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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 3830
  To: TYLER MIELNICHUK                         Date: 08/23/93  8:43a
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Tyler,
     I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM drive (MPC Compatible) hooked up to my 
SoundBlaster Pro that I'd like to sell.  It also comes with eleven CD's.  
Everything hooks up well to make a multimedia system.  If you already have a 
SoundBlaster, I could sell you the drive and all eleven CD's for around $400. 

If you are interested give me a call at (614) 363-8201.  Thanks. Greg
 
 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3831
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 08/23/93 12:01p
Subj: X Movie Review Cd                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The subject line was left over from a previous  reply, I think - just  like it 
is here - again. 
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: MARLINA MALONEY                        Number: 3832
  To: ANISH ACHARYA                            Date: 08/21/93  5:04p
Subj: Remote Access 2.00                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >        Hello!  Just thought I'd point out that Remote-Access 2.00
 >        has internal support for drive switching.  Right now, RA 2.00
 >        is gamma (only available to Registered Users).  But I think
 >        the final release will be out before X-Mas.  Just though I'd
 >        let you know!!
 
The full blown non-gama release just popped into the RAFDN two days ago and is

now floating around the boards. Just thought I would let "you" know. Made it 
well before x-mas.
 
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 3833
  To: JERRY SMITH                              Date: 08/23/93  6:40a
Subj: Nodelist/copyright                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hi Tim--Get ahold of the U.S. Supreme Court Report for Feist
-> Publicactions, Inc. v Rural Telephone Service Company, Inc.
-> (113 L Ed 2d 358), decided March 27, 1991.  It provides a clear,
 
Thanks Jerry... I'll take a look at it.
 
tim
 
 
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From: PAUL DIESTELHORST                      Number: 3834
  To: JONATHAN MCGIRR                          Date: 08/23/93  3:22p
Subj: Cd Rom Disk                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to Scott Martin, Jonathan Mcgirr said:
 
 > Not sure whether you want to be legal or not? Cracks are
 > illegal copies
 > of commercial software, or aren't you aware of that?
 
 
No, they arn't they are only tools used to do make illegal use of software.
You
know that thing with the descambler for Cable T.V.? They sell them legal ,but 
only for testing purposes. (HAHA)
 
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From: DON BRADEN                             Number: 3835
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/23/93  4:08p
Subj: Order                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Mike, I have solved the problem with " My first time".
 I juggled around my config.sys and autoexec.bat to eliminate a couple
of drivers and lo and behold the disks worked perfectly. 
 
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3836
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93 12:01a
Subj: BUSTY & ECSTASY PAK: $49                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                     SPECIAL LIMITED TIME OFFER!
                     ---------------------------

        Busty Babes 3.0 + Ecstasy Hot Pics..............$49.00

 Get a great price on the #1 and #2 top-selling adult CD's of all time!
 Hurry while quantities last.

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3837
  To: TYRONE THOMASON                          Date: 08/24/93 12:01a
Subj: MAPS CDROM Which one?                   Refer: NONE
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TT>DR> JR>  Looking for a good USA Map where I can get very detailed on street
TT>DR> JR>  level. I was looking at these two, and I wanted to know what you
TT>DR> JR>  guys thought about these programs.
TT>DR> JR>              1. Precision Mapping
TT>DR> JR>              2. Street Atlas

TT>DR>I sell both, but personally recommend Precision Mapping.


TT>I am considering being one of these two programs.  Can you please tell
TT>me why you prefer Precision Mapping more?  Is it more accurate, have
TT>more features?  Also, send a number so that I may order once I make up
TT>my mind.

Ty,

I like it better because it lets you print, modify, and even create your
own maps.  Plus, if you want to cut a portion of a map, and import it
into another program, you can do it.  Street Atlas, besides having two
year old data, doesn't have these features.  Also, Precision Mapping
runs faster because it doesn't have Windows hanging overhead.  We have
the updated version 1.5b in stock at $88 if you're interested.  Street
Atlas is also in stock at $86.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3838
  To: DOUG STRIEFLER                           Date: 08/24/93 12:01a
Subj: Swimsuit                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DS>wanted
DS>does anyone know of a swimsuit cd
DS>where to buy
DS>and how much

Doug,

One of the best I've seen is Swimwear 93 at $29.  Lots of high quality
swimsuit images, and ready for BBS use if that's your intention.  Also
have Women of Venus @ $29, and Lovely Ladies II @ $28, but they lack
any sort of file listing.  Call me any time if interested.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3839
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93 12:01a
Subj: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                       +-------------------------+
  CHECK                |   SPECIAL BONUS OFFER   |     GET A FULL 650MB
                       +-------------------------+     OF RECENT SHAREWARE
     THIS              |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0    |     FOR
                       |     REVISED EDITION     |          ONLY
        OUT !!         |    SHAREWARE CD ONLY    |
                       |  $4.00  W/ PURCHASE OF  |         4   BUCKS!
           ----------> |    ANY PACKAGE DEAL!    |         ----------
                       +-------------------------+

-------------[ CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS ]------------------------------------

1. Night Owl 7.0     2. Storm 1     3. Southern Beauties     4. Hot Pix 3
   Night Owl 8.0        Storm 2        All Beauties             Hot Pix 4
   Night Owl 9.0        Storm 3        Amateur Models           Hot Pix 5
   -------------        -------        --------------           ---------
   $69                  $69            $89                      $79


       5. Night Owl 8.0     6. Night Owl 9     7. All Beauties
          Night Owl 9.0        Pier 2             Southern Beauties
          -------------        ------             -----------------
          $53                  $59                $59


8. Up All Night            9. Empire Clipart             10. Pier 2
   Super CD 2                 Clipart Heaven                 SW Vault 2
   So Much Shareware 3        Encyclopedia of Clipart        SW Studio 2
   -------------------        -----------------------        -----------
   $63                        $59                            $65


11. CD Winbox      12. House of Games     13. Busty Babes     14. Storm 2
    Windows 93         Game Arena             Ecstasy             Storm 3
    ----------         ----------             -------             -------
    $44                $35                    $49                 $49


15. Fantazia Fonts         16. Porkware 1       17. Compton's Interactive
    Fontmaster 2               Porkware 2           U.S. Atlas MPC
    Too Many Typefonts         All Beauties         Learning Adventure
    ------------------         ------------         ------------------
    $49                        $89                  $129


PLUS, AN ADDED BONUS . . . . .

               WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3840
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93 12:01a
Subj: ADULT CD 7-PAK: $135                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                    [[[[  ADULT CD PACKAGE DEALS  ]]]]
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              ADULT CD 7-PAK                   SEEDY-ROM 7-PAK
              --------------                   ---------------
                  Storm 1                        Seedy-ROM 1
                  Storm 2                        Seedy-ROM 2
                  Storm 3                        Seedy-ROM 3
                 Hot Pix 2                       Seedy-ROM 4
                 Hot Pix 3                       Seedy-ROM 5
                 Hot Pix 4                       Seedy-ROM 6
                 Hot Pix 5                       Seedy-ROM 7

                 - $135 -                         - $159 -

              ($19.29 per CD)                  ($22.71 per CD)
             30-35% duplication                0% duplication!
                 BBS-Ready                        BBS-Ready
               27,000+ files                    32,000+ files

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     *         BONUS:  Porkware 1 only $25 w/ either package!         *
     ------------------------------------------------------------------

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3841
  To: PAUL DIESTELHORST                        Date: 08/24/93  1:29p
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
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 > * In a message originally to Mike Shannon, Tony Davis
 > said:


 >> >life on the edge. I'll take ALL THE BUSTY'S I CAN GET MY HANDS ON!

 > Hey, where can I get a copy of Busty Babes and how
 > much?

 >                                             Paul

I have Busty Babes for sale. Give me a call at 512-939-9822
We can talk price.
                                            Pat

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 3842
  To: PHILIP POLSTRA                           Date: 08/23/93 11:39a
Subj: Aviation CD                             Refer: NONE
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-> Does anybody sell a CD dedicated to Aviation stuff?  I run an aviatio
-> oriented BBS and would like something like this for my collection.
There is one called the 'aircraft encyclopedia' advertised juast about
anywhere....
I am an aviation nut myself! What's you BBS number?

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 3843
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 08/23/93 11:42a
Subj: CDRom & Sound Blaster                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> This is a package CD/Sound card system.  Sweet and easy to setup.
-> This is not the inferior MITSUMI CD Players all owners are having pro
-> with read errors using some CDs.  This system is fully MPC compatible
Hey you twit! Quit insulting my 'inferior' CD-ROM drive!!!
Just because you can't make a mil and dollar profit off it doesn't mean
it's 'inferior'!
I've had NO problems with mine and a lot of other people haven't
either!!!!

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: BRIAN DHATT                            Number: 3844
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/23/93  4:34p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
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Sunday August 22 1993 01:40, Boris Osadciw wrote to Ed Kellermann:

 BO> Ed, the DMR600 is a 600ms drive with a 150kps transfer rate. While the
 BO> DMR604X is a 300ms drive with a 600kps transfer rate. Other than that
 BO> both units offer the same features.

Don't forget that the DMR604x offers Multi-Session Photo-CD support and XA
disc support.

Brian

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 3845
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 08/24/93  9:56a
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 JP> Terry, did you get my messages of 2 weeks ago?  1) i was trying to find
 JP> out if you ever got any of the Hitachi 3600's in and secondly to see how
 JP> many of the 3500's you had left.


Sorry they are all gone.  If you send me your voice phone number I'll call you
if I get more.


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From: JEFF PAZAHANICK                        Number: 3846
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/24/93 10:38a
Subj: A FEW CHESTNUTS LEFT! 2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

1. THE COMPLETE BOOKSHOP - An entire bookshop on CD! Includes classics,
   poetry, humor, cookbooks, American history and founding documents, novels,
   short stories, home improvement guides, computer tutors, and more!

4. TECHNOTOOLS - A programmer's dream disc! Routines, utilities, debuggers,
   troubleshooters, and other programming tools for C/C++, dBase, Clipper,
   Basic, Assembler, AI, Unix, OS/2, Pascal, Forth, and more!

12. SHAREWARE OVERLOAD - Over 6100 programs (550mb compressed) for all
    applications, with an emphasis on games and Windows programs.  Subjects
    include business, clipart, communications, BBS, database, education,
    finance, games, graphics, religion, sound, utilities, Windows, & more!

Ship these COD to

Boss Computers
6274 Allan Street
Halifax, Nova Scotia
B3L 1G9
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From: JEFF PAZAHANICK                        Number: 3847
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/24/93 10:38a
Subj: CDROM SPECIALS                          Refer: NONE
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BO> *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
  >Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
  >Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
  >Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
  >Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
  >Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
  >Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
  >Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.

Is the NEC36 the only SCSI?
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From: J. ALLEN                               Number: 3848
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93 10:41a
Subj: FORSALE USED CD-ROM DISKS               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following CD-ROM disks for sale or possible swaps.  All disks
are used and there is only one of each.  Prices do not include shipping.
$25.00 minimum order (Not interested in packing and shipping a single
$5.00 disk.) Reasonable offers considered (especially multi-disk).
DO NOT RESPOND IN THIS ECHO!!  Direct E-mail offers to 1:2201/13
Descriptions are my own and may not be exact.

==========================================================================

          CD-ROM NAME             DESCRIPTION

15.00   BUSINESS MASTER         Shareware Business Software from NiteOwl
11.00   NIGHT OWL 4.0         | NightOwl CD's are excellent disks. Each
12.00   NIGHT OWL 4.2         | CD is filled with ZIPed programs only and
13.00   NIGHT OWL 5.0         | are sorted into directories with full
14.00   NIGHT OWL 6.0         | file descriptions included. Each CD has
15.00   NIGHT OWL 6.1         | 6-20 thousand programs in 40-60 DIRs.
18.00   NIGHT OWL 7.0         | PC BOARD FILES.BBS text files included.
19.00   NIGHT OWL 8.0         | These are shareware and bbs ready
18.00   ORIGINAL SHAREWARE 92   8000 files
11.00   SIMTEL (Jan. 92)      | 8000 files,LAN,other Platforms,135 DIRs
13.00   SIMTEL (Dec. 92)      | 8500 files,160 DIRs ect.
11.00   VGA SPECTRUM            400 megs of VGA,HiRes Gifs,Sound files
15.00   WINDOWS CDROM           140 megs of WINDOWS programs and util.
 5.00   MEDLINE                 Medline Database
 5.00   LAW LIBRARY             Social Law Library
12.00   WINDOWS/OS2             Windows and OS/2 commercial demos
 5.00   SOFTWARE DATABASE       Huge database of software/venders
 5.00   ACADEMIC ABSTRACTS      Magazine article search/database
18.00  ShareWare Bonanza 2   | Database, education,DTP,Ham, Business,WP
(both) ShareWare Bonanza 3   | Basic,C,Printer, Disk, Key,Screen, Home,
- - - ->Note: No disk #1 )   | ASP,Clipart,Spreadsheet,Os2,Windows
10.00   ROMWARE Magazine        Romware Magazine Vol 2, #1, March 92
                                CIA Factbook for 91+large movies
                                database with over 1000 stills in PCX
15.00   Lions Share             Mastered late/92-Good select of all types
11.00   Gigabyte of Shareware   10,000+ files,incl large GIF and Games
16.0    PowerPak Gold           7,000 files.  Sound Blaster Front Loader
15.00   Danger Hot Stuff        Collection of Graphics/Gifs/Animations
                                with SB support - Rated G
15.00   The War Chest           Military Info/Personal Locator/War Papers
18.00   Golden Immortal         Golden Immortal - arcade game
15.00   Hall of Fame Shareware  Shareware Programs- 75 Directories/BBS
18.00   Guinness Disk Records   Guinness Disk of Records
25.00   The Manhole             The Manhole - arcade game for kids
15.00   Compuadd Words Games    Compuadd's  Words and Games disk
25.00   Amercian Housing        Amercian Housing Survey/Goverment Stats
25.00   Country's World         Country's of the World - Much world
info/data
20.00   CD Game Pak II          Software Toolworks GamePack II
25.00   Food Analyst            Food Analyst software/database
18.00   Birds of America        Birds of America - Multimedia
18.00   Mammals                 Mammals - Multimedia
      |-Earth and Space Science | A three disk collection of earth
29.00-| Earth and Space Science | and science material from many
      |-Earth and Space Science | sources.  Plenty of Sat. Gifs
============================================================================

Send offers/replies to 1:2201/13  Fidonet

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From: JOSEPH FEDERKINS                       Number: 3849
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93 12:06a
Subj: CD-ROMS #1                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
=================================================================

Toshiba - 3401 Series - World's Fastest Access Time : 200ms
 - Fully Integrated Audio
 - Double Speed                              Internal $510 + shipping
 - 5.25" CD-ROM Cartridge Drive              External $620 + shipping
 - 330 KB/sec transfer
 - Embedded SCSI-2 Interface
 - MPC compliant
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible


TEAC CD-50 - Access Time : 265ms            Internal $378 + shipping
 - 300 KB/sec transfer rate
 - AntiDust design
 - SCSI-2 Compatible
 - Multimedia compliant
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible
 - SCSI-2 Interface kit required


NEC - Access Time : 280ms                    Internal $576 + shipping
 - CD Audio Capable                          External $653 + shipping
 - 265K Cache
 - 2 year warranty
 - Multispin 300 KB/sec transfer rate
 - Double dust doors and auto lens dust brush
 - High performance XT/AT, SCSI-2 Interface Kit Included
 - Multimedia compliant
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible


Mitsumi - Access Time : 350ms                Internal $209 + shipping
 - 32K Buffer
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible
 - Includes 16bit interface card, cable, and device driver
 - Internal Half Height form factor
 - 150 KB/sec transfer rate
 - Patented Dust proof design
 - Multimedia compliant


Sony Desktop Library Multimedia Starter Kit  Internal $307 + shipping
 - Access Time : 550ms
 - Includes 16bit interface card and cable
 - Complete Documentation
 - Installation Software
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible
 - Internal Half Height form factor
 - Multimedia compliant
 - Includes 4 CD-ROM software titles


Sony Desktop Library Complete Multimedia Kit
 - Access Time : 550ms
 - Includes 16bit interface card and cable
 - 16-bit Pro Audio Spectrum sound board     Internal $505 + shipping
 - Sony SRS-58PC speakers and batteries      External $593 + shipping
 - Complete Documentation
 - Installation Software
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible
 - Multimedia compliant
 - Includes 7 CD-ROM software titles

 Future Business Consultants, Inc     Custom configurations are
 1749 West Golf Road    Suite 305     always available
 Mount Prospect, Illinois   60056
 (708) 437-8889  M-F 10am - 8pm    SAT 12n  - 4pm
 (708) 956-6983  FAX               >>> All times are CST <<<

  Quanities are limited.    Prices are subject to change         8/18/93
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From: JOSEPH FEDERKINS                       Number: 3850
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93 12:06a
Subj: CD-ROMS #2                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
=================================================================

Sony External CD-ROM   (2nd Inventory)    $406 + shipping
 - Access Time : <340ms
 - 150KB/sec transfer rate
 - 8K Buffer
 - Built-in Audio
 - Includes 16bit interface card and cable
 - Laser Library Menu
 - Laser Library Installation
 - Includes 7 CD-ROM software titles
 - 1 year Sony Warranty


Texel
 - Access Time : 265ms                       Internal $488 + shipping
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible         External $565 + shipping
 - SCSI-2 compliant
 - SCSI-2 Interface Adapter
 - 64KB Buffer
 - 330 KB/sec transfer
 - Dust-Proof construction
 - Self cleaning lens


Texel CD-ROM Home Bundle                     Internal $604 + shipping
 - Same CD-ROM drive as above                External $714 + shipping
 - Stereo Headphones
 - Amplified Audio Speakers
 - CD-ROM Software
     Software Toolworks Multimedia        National Parks
     Software Toolworks Game Pack 2       PC-SIG Library
     The San Diego Zoo's: The Animals     Music Sampler CD
     Nautilus Multimedia Family Guide     Music Audio Control Software
     MPC Wizard Test and Tune-Up CD


Texel CD-ROM Multimedia Bundle               Internal $890 + shipping
 - Same CD-ROM drive as above                External $1011 + shipping
 - Stereo Headphones
 - Deluxe Microphone
 - Media Vision 16-bit Soundboard
 - Amplified Audio Speakers
 - CD-ROM Software
     Compton's Encyclopedia               Autodesk Explorer
     Sierra's King's Quest V              Where in the World is
     The San Diego Zoo's: The Animals           Carmen Sandiego
     Software Toolworks Game Pack 2       PC-SIG Library
     Nautilus Multimedia Family Guide     National Parks
     Music Sampler CD                     Music Audio Control Software
     MPC Wizard Test and Tune-Up CD       World View Media Clips





 Future Business Consultants, Inc     Custom configurations are
 1749 West Golf Road    Suite 305     always available
 Mount Prospect, Illinois   60056
 (708) 437-8889  M-F 10am - 8pm    SAT 12n  - 4pm
 (708) 956-6983  FAX               >>> All times are CST <<<

  Quanities are limited.    Prices are subject to change         8/18/93
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From: JOSEPH FEDERKINS                       Number: 3851
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93 12:06a
Subj: CD-ROMS #3                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Software Bundles
=================================================================

Business Bundle               $43 + shipping
 - Software Vault 1 Shareware
 - Software Vault 2 Shareware
 - Prophone Business Edition

Reference Bundle              $65 + shipping
 - Reference Library
 - Family Doctor
 - Atlas Pack World/US

Game Bundle                   $50 + shipping
 - Total BaseBall
 - Mario is Missing
 - Deathstar for Arcade Battles

 **** All bundles require purchase of CD-ROM Drive ****
 **** See previous posts for prices and specifications ****


 Future Business Consultants, Inc     Custom configurations are
 1749 West Golf Road    Suite 305     always available
 Mount Prospect, Illinois   60056
 (708) 437-8889  M-F 10am - 8pm    SAT 12n  - 4pm
 (708) 956-6983  FAX               >>> All times are CST <<<

  Quanities are limited.    Prices are subject to change        8/18/93
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From: KEITH SHEEHAN                          Number: 3852
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/20/93 12:23p
Subj: 2 ROMS FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What edition ïkis the Microsoft Bookshelf CD?

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3853
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 08/20/93  2:33p
Subj: ROM 4 SALE                              Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

>   > NC-17

Basically the replacement for "X" rating....


 * SLMR 2.1a * A mid-air hit can seriously erode climb performance!

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3854
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93  2:50p
Subj: Night Owl 9 $25                         Refer: NONE
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                  N i g h t   O w l   9 . 0
 ******************************************************************
 *********                                                *********
 ***********           $ 25.00 a Copy !!!               ***********
 *********                                                *********
 ***********                                            ***********
 *********               Ask for Barney                   *********
 ***********           ------------------               ***********
 *********               1-800-638-5757                   *********
 ***********                                            ***********
 *********           We Will NOT be out Sold              *********
 ***********                                            ***********
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                  N i g h t   O w l   9 . 0

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From: ARIENE CHANG                           Number: 3855
  To: PAT RILEY                                Date: 08/24/93 12:58a
Subj: Multimedia Items For Sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested in buying a cd-rom and I was wondering where or if I could reach
you for a possible purchase of a cd-rom.  In what currency are you selling your
cd-rom...Canadian?  Can you also tell me some more specifics about it thanks.


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From: MICHAEL TROXELL                        Number: 3856
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/23/93 10:38p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Blaine Richard to Steve Hecker <=-

 BR> In a message to Blaine Richard <08-18-93 00:02> Steve Hecker wrote:
 
 SH>   > 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256
 SH>   > From Original 35mm Slides
 SH>
 SH>          Blaine, pardon me for asking, but why would anyone pay for a
 SH>  disk filled with gifs of senior citizens ? :-)

 BR> Mr. Hecker, I don't know what YOU are looking for (teenage girls?),
 BR> but senior citizens, THE MODELS ARE NOT!  The models that appear in

Whoa... Lighten up.  Look closely at the first line of Steve's quote.
"675 Megs-Over 65 Models-".  Over 65.... Senior citizens... get it...
 
Sighhh.  Some people have no sense of humor. :-)

Mike

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From: KEN TULLY                              Number: 3857
  To: DON BRADEN                               Date: 08/24/93  9:29a
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DB> Mike, the disks arrived after our customs folks had decided on the tariff.
 DB>  I am having problems with My first time. My set up seems to comply with
 DB> the suggested one in the insert in the disk "jewel box" ie it has 2048 ram
 DB> and expanded memory etc. However, after the disk " 


You need to have about 610k free of low memory for it to run.  You will need to
use a memory manager.  Also there is a bug fix available for the disk, which I
happen to have...  If you need help, after getting enough free memory, the give
me a hollar.


                                        Ken...

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From: KEN TULLY                              Number: 3858
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 08/24/93  9:32a
Subj: Busty Babes v1.0                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EP>  KT> I have Busty Babes First Edition for sale to 
EP>  KT> the highest bidder.  It

EP> $15

 MK>     How about $15.25?

 Your getting closer...  Now move the DECIMAL point to the right a little and
we can talk.  There are not many V1.0 BB available, and I think even fewer
autographed by Lee and Blaine.  I have been offered $250 so far, so if anyone
is interested, I will be selling it off very soon.  You can reach me at
203-387-3174.


                                        Ken...

                                        KL Systems/Your CD Source

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From: SKIPPER NORTON                         Number: 3859
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/24/93  6:51p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ha, A CD-ROM disc for a $145 new motherboard, what the hell is on that
CD, do I have to be 18 to get it??

I figured...


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3860
  To: LARISSA KOHLER                           Date: 08/24/93  3:07a
Subj: Re: 6 Cdrom Changer                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I run a BBS with 3 online cdroms, but I only have 1 cdrom
>>    drive.  I was wondering if anyone knew of a 6 cdrom drive
>>    changer that ran by software.  I've seen 'em where you have to
>>    flip 'em manually, but I'd like to find one my users can flip.
 
There are several door programs that will allow you to do just want you
need above, regarding a 6 disk changer.
 
As we market both versions of the Pioneer unit's, we have a lot of customers
doing the same thing.
 
If you need further help, please feel free to call us at 216-225-3263
anytime and we'll be happy to assist you further.
 
Boris Osadciw
 
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3861
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93  3:07a
Subj: Limited Supply                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%  NEC'S 73's & 83's %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
 
        280ms access time - 150kps tarnsfer rate - Novell, OS/2
        and Windows Compatiable - Caddy System - Dasiy Chainable
        SCSI & SCSI 2 Support.   Refurbished - 90 day warranty
 
  Limited Supply - External Price - $249.  Internal Price - $225.
 Purchase any current Shareware CD for $15. additional with drive!
 
 ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759
 
 
Boris Osadciw
 
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From: CHRIS JOHNSON                          Number: 3862
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 08/23/93  5:40p
Subj: New Echo - Multimedia                   Refer: NONE
Read: 08/27/93  8:17p                       Private: No 

-> This echo also can be ported to any other sister nets and RIME.
 
 TH> If you use the FIDOnet nodelist, you have to adhear to FIDOnet
 TH> policy - policy that prevents cross posting mail in multiple networks.
 TH> RIME has similar policy, too.
 
 TH> The nodelist can only be used to "participate in FIDOnet"... This is
 TH> clearly stated at the beginning of the nodelist.  If you use the
 TH> nodelist for any other purpose, you'll be violating Tom Jenning's
 TH> copyright.  You probably don't care, based on your past business
 TH> practices.
 
 TH> tim
 TH> moderator
 
 
 
Whats the NAME_FOR_IT?
 
 
 
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From: CHRIS JOHNSON                          Number: 3863
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/23/93  5:41p
Subj: 7th Guest Only $39!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS>  
 MS> *******************************************************
 MS> *****************
 MS>                           7TH GUEST IS HERE!!!
 MS>  
 MS> *******************************************************
 MS> *****************
 
 MS>        PRICE:  $39!!        In stock, ready for immediate delivery.
 
 MS>  MINIMUM Requirements:  2 Megs RAM * 386DX CPU * 16 bit SVGA video card
 MS>  with at least 512K RAM * CD-ROM Drive w/ 150K per 
 MS> second minimum transfer
 MS>  rate * Sound card w/ FM and PCM sound * Mouse * Hard 
 MS> drive w/ 10 Megs free
 MS>  MSCDEX 2.2 or higher * DOS 5.0
 
 MS>  RECOMMENDED Hardware:  486sx 20mhz or faster CPU * 4 Megs RAM * Fast
 MS>  16 bit SVGA video card w/ 1 Meg RAM or local bus video * CD-ROM drive w/
 MS>  300k per second transfer rate and less than 300 ms access time * Roland
 MS>  LAPC-1, MT-32, or Sound Canvas and 16 bit PCM Sound Card
 
 MS>  ------------------------------------------------------
 MS> --------------------
 MS>        "This is the new standard in multimedia entertainment.  This
 MS>         is the future."       - Bill Gates, Chairman Microsoft Corp.
 MS>  ------------------------------------------------------
 
        Sorry.. but I have to add this:
 
                KINGS QUEST VI  (CD ROM VERSION)
 
                "Proof that the era of CD gaming is upon us"
                                        Peter Spear, QuestBusters
 
                "The Magic Is back and Sierra HAS another definite winner.
                In Kings Quest VI, Sierra UPS the Technology another notch."
                                                -PC Magazine
 
                "Bigger and Bolder, this is THE Adventure few can Resist."
                                                -Compute
 
                "The music and animation are EXCEPTIONAL, as is the story.
                 Hats off to Sierra for another sparkling gem."
                                                -Dragon
 
                "It is easy to see why Kings Quest is the best selling
                game series OF ALL TIME"
                                                -Computer Game Review
 
                "Kings Quest VI is not just EXELENT, its a LANDMARK
                GAME."
                                                -QuestBusters
 
 
                "A stunning -50 Meggabyte- animated introduction,
                created by KRONOS, The special effects masters who
                who brought you BATMAN RETURNS and LAWNMOWER MAN."
 
                "1024 by 480 SVGA and XGA 65,000,000 COLOR, PATENTED
                LIP-SYNCHING TECNOLOGY characters."
 
 
 
 
                        Just to add.. the price for this is
                        APPROX 70.00.
 
                I recomend that you team up with Sierra and get this
                on your price list.  maybe even at discounted prices..
                this game is well... FAR Beyond 7th Guest.. even though
                I would recomend it..  anyways... see if you can get
                KINGS QUEST VI CD ROM VER.  It'll sell SO fast.. I'll
                PROMISE you that..
 
 
                        Chris Johnson
 
 
 
 
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From: YVES DESJARDINS                        Number: 3864
  To: MARK GRYN                                Date: 08/24/93  5:59p
Subj: CD for trade...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Mark!

23 Aug 93 10:54, Mark Gryn wrote to Yves Desjardins:


 >>  MM> I am interested in the Microprose Mantis and Civilization game..

Sorry it has been traded.....

Yves

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From: MANESH RAMA                            Number: 3865
  To: MIKE RICHARDSON                          Date: 08/23/93 11:28a
Subj: Cd-software                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hey mike i was wondering about the phonix cd.
what is it exactly?
and see if we did exchange then how would we do it?
thanx
later

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From: ERIC MIYAZAWA                          Number: 3866
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93  8:11p
Subj: Microsoft cd-rom for sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@SUBJECT:MICROSOFT CD-ROM FOR SALE!                                  N I have
the new Microsoft Word for Windows, Bookshelf, Video, and Sound on CD-ROM for
sale!      ~~~~              ~~~~~~~~~  ~~~~~      ~~~~~
        This multimedia edition CD-ROM incorporates all of these Microsoft
packages into one CD-ROM!  Brand new, sealed in package, never opened, with
registration card of course.  $275 or best offer!!!
        (I bought it in advance, believing that I would buy a CD-ROM drive,
but decided against it since I couldn't justify the expense.  So, unless
someone can find a really cheap [how much can they be purchased for?]
doublespin NEC Intersect [internal], this CD-ROM will have to go)

        On a lesser note, I have four 256k 80ns NEC SIMMs for sale.  $35 obo. 
I know they aren't all that useful nowdays, but if you can find good use for
them, they are for sale.  They are exactly one year old.

        Please reply to me here!


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From: DAVID HEYDRICK                         Number: 3867
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93 10:37a
Subj: Gay Roms??                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    Does anyone have any Gay type CD's?

    Or a CD that has Adult text files,
    perfer gay or BI.

... First Hillary, then Jennifer... now US!
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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 3868
  To: MARK GUTT                                Date: 08/23/93  9:22p
Subj: Busty Babes 1.0                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <17 Aug 93  18:26:08>, Mark Gutt (1:139/695) writes:
 >I have a copy of the "BUSTY BABES" Volume 1, Release 1.0
 >thats in excellent condition (used 3 or 4 times) that I
 >would like to sell. If you are interested, leave your
 >name,an offer, and how you can be reached.
It is $23 for the new version, so I offer $16 shipped. I can be reached
here(best choice) or net mail to 303/5.


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From: DALE BROEMER                           Number: 3869
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/24/93  7:11p
Subj: HITACHI DRIVE FOR SALE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Hi!  I'll like to offer a 1meg OAK VGA card and $50.00 for that drive.
I really want to get into the CD thing, but my budget is hurt'n if you 
know what I mean.

  Call me at (403) 237-6507, Or leave Net-Mail.

  


  D. Broemer 


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From: DALE BROEMER                           Number: 3870
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/24/93  7:11p
Subj: Hitatchi rom drive                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  That would'nt be one of those drives you were having problems with, 
would it??

  


  D. Broemer 


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From: JIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 3871
  To: TIM SCHOOLER                             Date: 08/24/93 11:18a
Subj: Related ?                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Related ?

Jim Schooler
1:102/910

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 3872
  To: JIM NEUMILLER                            Date: 08/24/93  7:22a
Subj: Re: DAK CD-ROM SUPPORT                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

THE NUMBER FOR TECH SUPPORT IS 1-800-888-9818 I HAVE THE BSR 6800 MX IF YOU
HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

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From: JIM HILGEFORD                          Number: 3873
  To: VIKKI CLAYTON                            Date: 08/23/93  3:49p
Subj: GRANDMA AND ME                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (22 Aug 93) Vikki Clayton wrote to Rita Laws...

 VC>  > Hi. If your other buyer drops out in a few weeks, please
 VC>  > leave me a note. I am interested in CD programs for
 VC>  > children, new and used. Have a nice day.
 VC> 
 VC> Have Interactive Storytime Volumes one and two for $20 each.
 VC> 
 VC> Vikki
 VC> 
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 VC> 209/209
 VC> 19 30 43
        I am a grandfather looking for children cd's for a 2 
        year old. do you know where I can obtain a listing
        of what is in most children's CD's, including age that
        they material is considered to bo of use.
        Would be interested in your two CD's if I knew more of
        what they included.
        Thanks in advance  

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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 3874
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93  9:12p
Subj: Shareware Explorer!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                         The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 1-800-289-1ROM  FAX: (314) 521-7453
        $69.00         International 314-521-4862     $69.00
                     Shareware Explorer 4 Disk Set!

Have you been looking for an alternative to Shareware Extravaganza???
The NEW Shareware Explorer Quad pack is just the ticket.   26,000 files
make this the finest collection available for the serious SYSOP or
shareware enthusiast.  Thousands of Applications and utilities: Games -
arcade, card, strategy, word games and more:  Over 1,000 fonts- ATM,
Postscript, & Truetype; A select few Icons and wallpaper bitmaps;
Source/tools for Actor, C, C++ Basic Pascal, TPW & others.  Completely
BBS ready with multiline file descriptions.   Over 600 megs of Windows
files!  Less then 1% duplication of versions, or same programs across
all 4 volumes!  Easy to use Access program allows even a novice to
quickly and easily search for topics of interst and copy or unarchive
them to a hard disk for further use!

                         Don't miss this one folks!

*********************************************************************
   VISA          1 - 8 0 0 - 2 8 9 - 1 R O M        MASTERCARD
              ---- 100s of Titles Available ----



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From: DAVID BURKE                            Number: 3875
  To: CHARLEY WEBB                             Date: 08/25/93 12:46a
Subj: Night Owl 9 $25                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> DH>KP>  ********           $ 25.00 a Copy !!!               *****
-> DH>KP>  ******               Ask for Barney                   ***
-> DH>KP>  ******               1-800-638-5757                   ***
-> DH>KP>  ******           We Will NOT be out Sold              ***

-> Thats odd, I paid $15.00 for a new Night Owl #9 cd.

   Hehehe at this rate we should get our free copy sometime in Oct.

                                                     -=- Dave


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From: SCOTT NIKONT                           Number: 3876
  To: JAMES PUNG                               Date: 08/25/93  1:22a
Subj: Re: For sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 22 Aug 93 10:17pm, James Pung wrote to All:

 JP>         *****  FOR SALE *******

 JP>  (8) 1megx9 Simms 70 ns          $35 ea. obo

How about $125 for 4 of them, and you send them to me COD +
shipping?  Let me know here, or NetMail at 14/615.

If this deal is a go, would you please go ahead and send before I
get your answer.  Thanks, Scott.

Scott Nikont                      I can be reached by contacting:
PO Box 487  309 Cheyenne Ave      The Panhandle Connection BBS
Hemingford NE 69348               (308)487-5505  FidoNet 1:14/615


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From: DAVID HARRISON                         Number: 3877
  To: CHARLEY WEBB                             Date: 08/24/93  7:28p
Subj: Re: Night Owl 9 $25                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CW> DH >KP>  ******************************************************************
CW> DH >KP>  *********                                                *********
CW> DH >KP>  ***********           $ 25.00 a Copy !!!               ***********
CW> DH >KP>  *********                                                *********
CW> DH >KP>  ***********                                            ***********
CW> DH >KP>  *********               Ask for Barney                   *********
CW> DH >KP>  ***********           ------------------               ***********
CW> DH >KP>  *********               1-800-638-5757                   *********
CW> DH >KP>  ***********                                            ***********
CW> DH >KP>  *********           We Will NOT be out Sold              *********
CW> DH >KP>  ***********                                            ***********
CW> DH >KP>  ******************************************************************
CW> 
CW> Thats odd, I paid $15.00 for a new Night Owl #9 cd.
I dont know why you sent that message to me... I didnt post that...

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From: JOHN WALDEN                            Number: 3878
  To: LADY JANE                                Date: 08/24/93  7:10p
Subj: 82% Match                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I've been playing with the matchmaker data base and I thought I'd let you know
that it says we're an 82% match.  Perhaps we should write to each other to get
to know each other better.  Hope to hear from you soon!


John

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From: JERRY WEGER                            Number: 3879
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93  6:03p
Subj: Mitsumi & sound card                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Recently bought the Mitsumi drive and am having a good time. I don't
have a sound board and have heard alot about conflicts with this drive
and soundcards. I need advice. Is ther a relatively inexpensive sound
card that is compatable?  have heard of on card, I believe it is a
Galaxy something or other, that has the capability of taking the place
of the Mitsumi interface card. Suggestions or advice would be
appreciated. Also prices if possible. MANY THANKS


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From: JERRY MICKISH                          Number: 3880
  To: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                         Date: 08/25/93  1:08a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Yes, my CDR-35 is a complete package. All original NEC manuals, driver disks,
registration cards, and SCSI interface card.


If interested, please reply here.


Thanks, Jerry



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From: JERRY MICKISH                          Number: 3881
  To: PIERRE DU PREEZ                          Date: 08/25/93  1:15a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for your offer to purchase my NEC CD-ROM. If you are still interested,
you can send the money to me at the following address: 

905 2nd Ave. SE
Barnesville, MN 56514-3744.

Please e-mail me if you are still interested.


Thanks,   Jerry



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From: JOSEPH THOMAS                          Number: 3882
  To: JERRY WEGER                              Date: 08/25/93  8:50a
Subj: Mitsumi & sound card                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sterio cd and the new Sterio FX/CD made by ATI
and sells for 99 & 149 , in the computer shopper.
Sept, 93.  Also check Aug.93 for a report on this. Tnx.


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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 3883
  To: TONY DAVIS                               Date: 08/20/93 12:30a
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TD> >Let us in on your situation . . . what are the details???  In what
TD> >state do you live?

TD>Oklahoma. The BBS had 16 CD Roms, 4 of which were 'adult'. They were FAO 3,
TD>Storm 2 & 3, and Busty Babes.  According to the officers that arrested me,
TD>anything that shows 'penatration' is obscene by State statute.

I have never been to Oklahoma (and have no plans to visit anytime soon),
but are there any porno store in OK?  What about adult magazines?


 * OLX 2.1 TD * Any damn fool can predict the past.


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From: TYLER MIELNICHUK                       Number: 3884
  To: GREG MANTER                              Date: 08/24/93 11:49a
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Greg,
I don't have a SB-Pro so i'd probably have to buy one.. would you be interested
in selling yours or perphaps trading me my THUNDER BOARD (SB, Adlib, MIDI
compatible.) plus a little cash also? If not i'm very interested in the cd-rom
and disks. What disks are there? What's the access time on the drive? Thanks
for the reply! later.
By the way my phone # is (604)-468-9717 (vancouver island)
bye now!


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 3885
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/24/93  6:35a
Subj: Thanks                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Mike!

Thanks for the order bonehead.  (Actually, I'm having problems with my mail
getting out, and picked you to test with).  ;-)

Later,

Dave.


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From: DAN CONLEY                             Number: 3886
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93 12:23a
Subj: Credit Card Charges                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I thought I'd let everyboby know that credit card surcharges are
illegal. I purchased a complete system from a VERY WELL KNOWN company
and on my invoice they had a charge for the purchase being on a cerdit
card.  I called Mastercard and told them about it. They called the
supplier and told them to stop charging extra for credit card use or
they would pull their Mastercard authorization from them. I then
promptly got a apology letter and a check for $50. If this happens to
you, call your credit card company and complain!!!


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 3887
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/24/93 10:36p
Subj: RED HOT SPECIALS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Boris!

Monday August 23 1993, Boris Osadciw writes to All:

 BO> $$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

You're a veteran, aren't you?  I bet every time you walk past the
refridgerator, all the magnets fly off and attach to your head.  ;-)

P.S. I'm a veteran, too, so I can say this.  ;-)


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 3888
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/24/93 10:44p
Subj: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Blaine!

Monday August 23 1993, Blaine Richard writes to Chris Christensen:

 BR> I thought Mr. Hecker had also misquoted my message. I just went
 BR> back to double check whether it was possible that Mr. Hecker
 BR> had not misquoted my message and discovered that he had not.



... Grow your own dope:  Plant Blaine Richard

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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 3889
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93 10:08p
Subj: GREAT CHEAP CD                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Would like to recommend a cheap cd IF you run windows and have a Best Buy 
store near you.  This week ROMaterial is on sale for 9.97.

It is by the people who make ICONHearit and ICONseeit. In fact it 
contains the entire iconhearit program plus others.

It has hundreds of sounds that you can attach to any windows event. A 
couple dozen screen savers and about 50 full motion video screen savers.

Also included are 500 regular icons and about a hundred animated icons.

A bunches of walpaper are included in 16, 256 and 24k colors.

This is the most fun you can have for under 10 bucks.

Sorry don't know what the regular price is or anywhere else you can buy 
it.

James
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From: DAVID ROBERTS                          Number: 3890
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/23/93  7:25p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes 1.0                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
 LN>No problem, Jim...the label film on the disc says, "Graphic Software" 
 >--Dealers now have bids for $350.00 per each 1.0 disc-- 
 >Versions 2.0 and 3.0 do not have these large font words on the disc film 
 >--If you have one of these, hold onto it-- 
 
I read this message you had left Lee and am just wondering why is this disk
so valuable, I paid $25 for it 6 months ago.
 
... "With the lights out, it's less dang'rous"
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From: RON BRIDGEMON                          Number: 3891
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/23/93 10:32p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       
 
 
 
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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 3892
  To: EVERYBODY                                Date: 08/23/93  8:21p
Subj: -=- The Storage Specialists -=-         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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-=- Internal            270MS     405.00 -=-
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-=- Personal and Company Checks, C.O.D.
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-=- provided we have stock. Shipping and Handling not included in prices 
-=- mentioned above.
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From: ARIENE CHANG                           Number: 3893
  To: PAT RILEY                                Date: 08/24/93 12:58a
Subj: Multimedia Items For Sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested in buying a cd-rom and I was wondering where or if I could reach
you for a possible purchase of a cd-rom.  In what currency are you selling
your
cd-rom...Canadian?  Can you also tell me some more specifics about it thanks.
 
 
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From: MICHAEL TROXELL                        Number: 3894
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/23/93 10:38p
Subj: Re: New Cd Southern Beauties            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Blaine Richard to Steve Hecker <=-
 
 BR> In a message to Blaine Richard <08-18-93 00:02> Steve Hecker wrote:
 
 SH>   > 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256
 SH>   > From Original 35mm Slides
 SH>
 SH>          Blaine, pardon me for asking, but why would anyone pay for a
 SH>  disk filled with gifs of senior citizens ? :-)
 
 BR> Mr. Hecker, I don't know what YOU are looking for (teenage girls?),
 BR> but senior citizens, THE MODELS ARE NOT!  The models that appear in
 
Whoa... Lighten up.  Look closely at the first line of Steve's quote.
"675 Megs-Over 65 Models-".  Over 65.... Senior citizens... get it...
 
Sighhh.  Some people have no sense of humor. :-)
 
Mike
 
... Air Geordis: Next Generation footwear!
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From: KEN TULLY                              Number: 3895
  To: DON BRADEN                               Date: 08/24/93  9:29a
Subj: My Order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DB> Mike, the disks arrived after our customs folks had decided on the tariff.
 DB>  I am having problems with My first time. My set up seems to comply with
 DB> the suggested one in the insert in the disk "jewel box" ie it has 2048
ram
 DB> and expanded memory etc. However, after the disk " 
 
 
You need to have about 610k free of low memory for it to run.  You will need
to
use a memory manager.  Also there is a bug fix available for the disk, which I

happen to have...  If you need help, after getting enough free memory, the
give
me a hollar.
 
 
                                        Ken...
 
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From: KEN TULLY                              Number: 3896
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 08/24/93  9:32a
Subj: Busty Babes V1.0                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EP>  KT> I have Busty Babes First Edition for sale to 
EP>  KT> the highest bidder.  It
 
EP> $15
 
 MK>     How about $15.25?
 
 Your getting closer...  Now move the DECIMAL point to the right a little and 
we can talk.  There are not many V1.0 BB available, and I think even fewer 
autographed by Lee and Blaine.  I have been offered $250 so far, so if anyone 
is interested, I will be selling it off very soon.  You can reach me at 
203-387-3174.
 
 
                                        Ken...
 
                                        KL Systems/Your CD Source
 
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From: BRIAN DHATT                            Number: 3897
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/23/93  4:34p
Subj: Cdrom Systems                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sunday August 22 1993 01:40, Boris Osadciw wrote to Ed Kellermann:
 
 BO> Ed, the DMR600 is a 600ms drive with a 150kps transfer rate. While the
 BO> DMR604X is a 300ms drive with a 600kps transfer rate. Other than that
 BO> both units offer the same features.
 
Don't forget that the DMR604x offers Multi-Session Photo-CD support and XA
disc
support.
 
Brian
 
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From: YVES DESJARDINS                        Number: 3898
  To: MARK GRYN                                Date: 08/24/93  5:59p
Subj: Cd For Trade...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Mark!
 
23 Aug 93 10:54, Mark Gryn wrote to Yves Desjardins:
 
 
 >>  MM> I am interested in the Microprose Mantis and Civilization game..
 
Sorry it has been traded.....
 
Yves
 
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From: MANESH RAMA                            Number: 3899
  To: MIKE RICHARDSON                          Date: 08/23/93 11:28a
Subj: Cd-software                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hey mike i was wondering about the phonix cd.
what is it exactly?
and see if we did exchange then how would we do it?
thanx
later
 
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 3900
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 08/24/93  9:56a
Subj: $99 Cd Rom Drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JP> Terry, did you get my messages of 2 weeks ago?  1) i was trying to find
 JP> out if you ever got any of the Hitachi 3600's in and secondly to see how
 JP> many of the 3500's you had left.
 
 
Sorry they are all gone.  If you send me your voice phone number I'll call you

if I get more.
 
 
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From: TIGER MOSES                            Number: 3901
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 08/25/93  8:41a
Subj: Cd\upload probs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

This actually could be quite simple.
When preparing for an upload, you software needs to know a source of files, it
probably checks what all drives are available as sources of files.  When you
load your drivers for thge CD it becomes a drive (mine is J:) for example. 
This status check probably stop the reading (playing music).  It probably that
simple, hopefully!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3902
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/25/93  8:23a
Subj: Re:  NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Blaine Richard to Bob Jackson <=-
 BR> I am anxious to read what you think about "Southern Beauties"
 BR> after you have had a chance to see it. Thanks for your message
 BR> explaining what Mr. Hecker may have meant. Again, I wrongly
 BR> thought that Mr. Hecker was trashing the disc and APOLOGIZE!

Blaine:

Thank you for such a complete reply.  Indeed, having the word "TOP"
would have removed the opportunity for misunderstandings, deliberate or
not.  Many of us here on the echo are aware of the disagreements you and
Lee Noga have had.  Accordingly, it's understandable that you might be
sensitized towards comments about your CD offerings.  You have shown
integrity with respect to Mr. Heckers post, and I commend you for it.

I'm looking forward to reviewing "Southern Beauties" and hope to get
that opportunity soon.  I'm trying to work with Mike Shannon of
Starvector to speed up the process of reviewing new adult CDs somewhat.
Also, Lee Noga has promised to send copies of her new releases directly
to me - that will help a lot. If you'd care to, you could do the same.
My address is 1720 Bowline Road, Houston, TX  77062-4536.

... "He was a man, all and all, I shall not look upon his like again."
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3903
  To: JEFF PAZAHANICK                          Date: 08/25/93  8:57a
Subj: Re: CDROM SPECIALS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Jeff Pazahanick to BORIS OSADCIW <=-
 JP> þ QMPro 1.0 40-1267 þ All rising to a great place is by a winding
 JP> stair. -!- Synchronet

VERY mysterious tagline, Jeff. Can you give me a short explanation
before Tim scolds us?

... Docs? Why would I want to look at the Docs. Nurses are better :)
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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 3904
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/23/93  8:23a
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 08-16-93 Lee Noga wrote to Bob Jackson... 
 
 LN> SHOWOFF is our baby now in this industry, and you will see  
 LN>     her on our 2 disc's coming out in September-- 
Some details please ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^??? 
 
... OFFLINE 1.34 

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 3905
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/24/93 11:34a
Subj: X movie review cd                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>In a message to Lee Noga <08-19-93 13:04> Joe Slifer wrote:

JS>> Would you list the cdroms FLD produces and any planned future
JS>> releases.-Thank

and you replied, in part:

LN>We have a busy Fall coming with some blockbusting discs

It's amazing how much more headway you can make when you stop dragging a sea
anchor around.  Carry on!

The various registration slips I've sent you have still not resulted in a
mailing back to me.  This is a "heads up" that another is underway.

*(>>>     :-)

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 3906
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/24/93  4:04a
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <21 Aug 93  17:18:00>, Lee Noga (1:3618/23) writes:

 >a) Busty Babes Vol II Rel 1.0 (September Release)--Licensed collection
 >   of original slides with "Gorgeous Women"....1000 images. X and XXX
 >   images. Nothing amateur about this disc ! All professional 
 >photography.
 >
 >b) Texas Glamour- All original scans as well....(Oct release) "X" rated.
 >   NO men--
 >
 >c) "Passion"--All original scans, XXX disc, (Nov release)--etc....
Are these all going to be BBS ready? If so, can ya speed up the release 
schedule <grin>? 

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From: SHADOW SMITH                           Number: 3907
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93 11:24p
Subj: CDROM_SALE                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MHS Addr: CDSALE

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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 3908
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/25/93  8:32p
Subj: BB                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (22 Aug 93) Pat Rickerson wrote to Boris Osadciw...

 PR> Are you looking for Busty Babes #1 as I have one. I have a offer of
 PR> 275.00 but its not ferm yet.
 PR>     Give me a call if you are interested.
 PR>                  Pat
 PR>                      512-939-9822

  Your trying to sell to the GUY who started all of this in the first place.
  He had 50 new BB#1s and was selling them for $50.oo each.  I called right
  away but Boris wasn't available.  Got to speak with him the next day and
  was way too late.  He was down to his last 4 CDs and the price had
  already climbed to at least $250.oo  Had to settle for one of those cheap
  $25.oo CDs.  Guess I will never know what I missed, but since I never had
  it, I never lost anything.  BB#1/1.0 is now a Classic, boy Lee must
  really be happy about that.  Sorry but I just can't afford that much
  pleasure. <g>

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3909
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 08/25/93 10:45a
Subj: Re: New Echo - Multimedia               Refer: NONE
Read: 08/28/93  8:53p                       Private: No 

> The nodelist can only be used to "participate in FIDOnet"... This is
> clearly stated at the beginning of the nodelist.  If you use the
> nodelist for any other purpose, you'll be violating Tom Jenning's
> copyright.  You probably don't care, based on your past business
> practices.
Dear Tim,
First of all moderator and business shouldn't be mixed to each other. If you
have any problem due to competition, please be mature enough to leave it out
FidoNet business.
 Secondly, you have no idea what you are talking about!..FidoNet echos can be
ported to any services by permission of the moderator. If you have any other
things to say, you can continue this via netmail.
 
Regards 

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3910
  To: SCOTT MCKNIGHT                           Date: 08/25/93 10:47a
Subj: Re: New Echo - Multimedia               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>I have started a new echo area called MULTIMEDIA
> Are you looking for links to get backbone status?  I'll be interested if
> if you are.
Hi Scott,
There is enough interest to get it qualified for backbone status. BTW, vendors
are also welcome!..After echo will get going, I will give up the moderator
status to another individual who may have more time. TTYL 

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3911
  To: MARK SMITH                               Date: 08/25/93 10:50a
Subj: Re: New Echo - Multimedia               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Can you send it to my Boss Node for me...??? Bob Brisco is his name!
> BTW did you get my Netmail...????
> Mark Smith
Hi Mark,
Can you please tell him to drop a net mail to me regardnig to this matter. TTYL
 
-= IA =- 

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3912
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/25/93 10:51a
Subj: Review                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> 78.3%, and 65.8%, respectively.  That is to say, of all the files
> on each of these CDs, those percentages of file names on those CDs
> are not duplicated anywhere else in my database.
Hi Bob,
There is a disk on the way to you for your review!..(As I have promised
before). I think you will like it. TTYL
 
GroupWare 

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From: MARLINA MALONEY                        Number: 3913
  To: 1:124/1019.1912                          Date: 08/25/93 12:50p
Subj: Wht ya doin?                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Originally by Marlina Maloney, 1:260/128@FidoNet
 * Originally to midnight cruiser, 1:124/1019.1912
 * Originally dated 25 Aug 1993, 12:48

(57)    21 Aug 93  17:04:00
By: Marlina Maloney
To: Anish Acharya
Re: Remote Access 2.00
St:
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 >        Hello!  Just thought I'd point out that Remote-Access 2.00
 >        has internal support for drive switching.  Right now, RA 2.00
 >        is gamma (only available to Registered Users).  But I think
 >        the final release will be out before X-Mas.  Just though I'd
 >        let you know!!

The full blown non-gama release just popped into the RAFDN two days ago and is
now floating around the boards. Just thought I would let "you" know. Made it
well before x-mas.

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3914
  To: PAUL DIESTELHORST                        Date: 08/25/93 11:49a
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > * In a message originally to Mike Shannon, Tony Davis
 > said:


 >> >life on the edge. I'll take ALL THE BUSTY'S I CAN GET MY HANDS ON!

 > Hey, where can I get a copy of Busty Babes and how
 > much?

 >                                             Paul

This mwssage is to anyone who is interested in buying Busty Babes #1, I have
one left and will sell it asp. Give me a call. Pat 512-939-9822

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3915
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/24/93 11:24p
Subj: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUEAUT                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>than 65 different models. I haven't seen SB yet (waiting for Mike
BJ>Shannon to send me a evaluation copy), but I'm familiar with some of the
BJ>names you mentioned. They are indeed quite attractive. (:>>

Didn't know you wanted one Bob!  I'll get an eval copy off to you tomorrow.
Maybe you can determine why it has FILES.BBS files when it's not
supposed to be used on BBS's.  8)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3916
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93 11:24p
Subj: NEW CATALOG AVAILABLE!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

***************************************************************************
   FREQ OR DOWNLOAD STARVECTOR'S CURRENT CATALOG W/ 300+ CD-ROM TITLES!
***************************************************************************

 To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 300+
 CD-ROM titles that we stock, you may either download our catalog file from
 our BBS, or Freq (file request) it.

 BBS:   509-457-0206 - Download STARCAT.ZIP from <F>ile menu. (1st call)
 FREQ:  1:3407/101 - File request STARCAT.ZIP

 Our new BBS now has an online order door with all our current titles and
 new lower prices!  All callers may d/l our catalog and/or place an order
 on the first call!

 Please feel free to call our BBS at 509-457-0206.  The system is using a
 U.S.R. Sportster 14.4, so you should have no problem logging on at any
 speed between 300bps and 14,400bps.

 While online, you may want to download one or more of the CD-ROM file
 listings that are available also.

 The Starvector BBS is online, and waiting to serve you!  Look for
 continuous updates and improvements in the near future, with more CD
 file listings, new online doors, and more!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3917
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 08/24/93 11:24p
Subj: Brand New Adult Cd'S!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CB>was computer art suggests that it's some kind of computer art
CB>magazine, but the above suggests that it's an adult magazine.  Is
CB>it a magazine at all?  Are these two different Vivids?

I believe so.  As far as I know, Vivid Digital only produces adult
oriented still and motion-picture CD's, but I could be mistaken.  Lee
would probably be the one to ask.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3918
  To: CHIP MORROW                              Date: 08/24/93 11:24p
Subj: 7TH GUEST ONLY $39!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CM>I have the same question someone else recently asked...

No video included on this one.  Also a downsized manual.  Everything
fits into a standard jewel case now.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3919
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93 11:24p
Subj: 29,000+ ADULT GIFS!!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                     SEEDY ROM 6-PAK: $149 + $4 S/H.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

These famous adult CD sets are now available again. For a time they were hard
    to find, but Starvector has several sets in stock ready for immediate
 delivery at only $149 + $4 shipping. That's only $24.83 per CD, and each is
    packed with top-quality GIF pix with GIF's and FLI/GL animation on #6.

      >>> NO DUPLICATION BETWEEN CD'S!   OVER 29,000 GIF's IN ALL! <<<

                           >>> BBS-READY <<<

  Find a better advertised price?  Call us and we'll BEAT it!  No hassles.

   BONUS:  Seedy #7 (Seventh Heaven) available separately for only $31,
   or $24 if purchased with 6-Pak.

                          (Must state age 21+)

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: ANDREW SETO                            Number: 3920
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93  9:14a
Subj: Mitsumi Cd-Rom For Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    I'm selling a Mitsumi Cd-Rom LU00S which has a access time of 350 ms
and a data transfer rate of 150 Kb sustained. I'm selling it for $175
and I'll pay for shipping. E-mail me if interested.

Andrew Seto


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 3921
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/24/93  5:35a
Subj: Busty babes trade sought.               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TC>     20th Century Video Almanac
TC>       ( Excellent Disk! )

TC>     The San Diego Zoo Presents... The Animals!
TC>       ( True Multimedia!  MUST have Windows 3.x and a
TC>         video card capible of running Windows in 256
TC>         color mode to operate this incredible Disk )


        $22.90 including shipping is offered for the above two disks.
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ Entropy isn't what it used to be!!!!


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From: ANISH ACHARYA                          Number: 3922
  To: MARLINA MALONEY                          Date: 08/25/93  7:53a
Subj: Remote Access 2.00                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Marlina,

       I appreciate you informing me but I have been up and running it for
       severel days now.  Thanks anyways!!

       Regards,

       Anish Acharya 

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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 3923
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 08/24/93  9:15a
Subj: CD+G                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hello Vito! (Hope I spelled your name right<grin>)
->  I received the M.O. and mailed your CD+G's out the same day.I sent t
-> class,as you did not send enough P&H for 1st(Priority was $3.90)but i
-> get there fairly soon.
->
-> Enjoy!!
->
->                            Diana
->
-> --- FX-BBS V3.41á[386]r
->  * Origin: -=BerthaBoard=- Manteca, Ca. (209) 823-0093/239-9853 (1:20
->
 Thanks


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From: TONY MILES                             Number: 3924
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/25/93  1:30p
Subj: Busty Babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PR>What's up I thought this CD was selling like hot cakes? I sill have one and
  >would like to sell it. So anyone that is interested give me a call at
  >512-939-9822 before the price of this CD goes up to high to buy!
  >         Also will trade for CD player, CD's, tape backup, or mother board
(
  >lest a 40dx). Also in need of some simms. Call and lets make a deal!
  >                                  Pat
 
Are you interested in Windows 3.0 with multimedia CD or Smutware CD?

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From: WILLIAM DUPREE                         Number: 3925
  To: J. ALLEN                                 Date: 08/25/93  5:31p
Subj: Forsale used cd-rom disks               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  <<<18.00   Birds of America        Birds of America - Multimedia I'll offer
10 shipped prepaid 9198706030 or reply here with address
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From: DAVID BURKE                            Number: 3926
  To: JOHN WALDEN                              Date: 08/25/93 11:23p
Subj: 82% Match                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I've been playing with the matchmaker data base
-> and I thought I'd let you know that it says we're
-> an 82% match.

 I bet you don't want to hear this, but this is an Internationl Echo
and about 16,000 (more or less) systems read this };-)

                                                  -=- Dave


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From: ART BREAULT                            Number: 3927
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/25/93  6:20a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I recieved my software with my drive. I belive if you purchased it new
you should have also. 


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From: ROBERT PICARD                          Number: 3928
  To: DEALERS                                  Date: 08/25/93  6:16p
Subj: Looking for some CDs                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi everyone, I want to buy the following CDs

Simtel 93  ( X 2 )
CD PowerBox
Software Vault Collection 2
Our Solar System
Shareware Studio Volume III
Night Owl 9.0
Monster Media 93

And maybe some others...

Must be shipped in Canada, and have the lowest prices around :-)
Feel free to send me your catalog at the adress below.

Also looking for good deals on Panasonic 562B/563 CD-ROM models. Please write
to me if you can be of some help.

-Robert

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3929
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 08/24/93  5:12p
Subj: NEW ECHO - MULTIMEDIA                   Refer: NONE
Read: 08/28/93  8:59p                       Private: No 

>-> This echo also can be ported to any other sister nets and RIME.

>If you use the FIDOnet nodelist, you have to adhear to FIDOnet policy - policy
>that prevents cross posting mail in multiple networks.

There is NO SUCH POLICY.

 I don't know if you were around that far back, but some of us REMEMBER the
stink when FidoNet tried to take control of HDCONF and HDSALE from their
FOUNDING Moderator (Randy Van De Loo) - and the result that BOTH confrences
became (and REMAIN to this day) AlterNet confrences, permitted to be ported
INTO FidoNet by the moderator(s).

Then there are the many echos that are ported into UseNet - and the UseNet
newsgroup that consists of FidoNews.


The moderator of any particular echo has the right to say "no porting into any
other network" if they so choose - but such a restriction IS NOT and NEVER HAS
BEEN part of Policy.

By the way - SEVERAL of the so-called RIME confrences are ported over FROM
Smartnet (Rex Hankins of the RIME Steering Committee is a personal aquaintance
and local BBS Sysop)....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3930
  To: LOUIS SOKOL                              Date: 08/24/93  5:15p
Subj: CDROM BBS DOOR!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>RL>        o       it will work with ANY BBS software (not just MAXIMUS)  RL>
>that                is capable of writing a long-style (52 line)  RL> DOOR.SYS
>              drop-file, e.g., WILDCAT, PCB, GAP, etc.  If  RL> your system
RL>
>               can't write a long-style DOOR.SYS, then you may still RL>
>        use this software via a door conversion program that RL>
>makes long-style DOOR.SYS files.

>Will this software work wit TBBS or TDBS?

Single-line only - and is not NEEDED in any case....


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From: DALE BROEMER                           Number: 3931
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/25/93  1:23p
Subj: HITACHI DRIVE FOR SALE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Hi!  I'll like to offer a 1meg OAK VGA card and $50.00 for that drive.
I really want to get into the CD thing, but my budget is hurt'n if you 
know what I mean.

  Call me at (403) 237-6507, Or leave Net-Mail.

  


  D. Broemer 


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From: DALE BROEMER                           Number: 3932
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/25/93  1:23p
Subj: Hitatchi rom drive                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  That would'nt be one of those drives you were having problems with, 
would it??

  


  D. Broemer 


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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 3933
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/25/93  8:17p
Subj: CD-ROM MASTER LIST 1/2                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi there Mike,  how about being a cool guy and selling me 7th Guest for $39?

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 3934
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/25/93 10:49p
Subj: The 7th Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi everyone,  do you guys know the game call the 7th Guest for CD-ROM,  who
could sell it to me for ohh,  about $39 or less,  I pay shipping,  preferabaly
knew (please forgive my spelling).  Thank you.

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3935
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/26/93  2:18a
Subj: Re: BB                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Are you looking for Busty Babes #1 as I have one. I have a
>>    offer of 275.00 but its not ferm yet.
>>        Give me a call if you are interested.
>>                     Pat
>>                         512-939-9822

Nope, I have two copies on hand and I have no intentions on selling them.

I'am sure you'll get a lot more for it as soon as the information on BB
is printed in a number of magazines.

Good Luck.....

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3936
  To: JEFF PAZAHANICK                          Date: 08/26/93  2:18a
Subj: Re: CDROM SPECIALS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>> *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
  >>Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
  >>Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
  >>Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
  >>Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
  >>Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
  >>Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
  >>Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.

>>    Is the NEC36 the only SCSI?

Nope, all of the above drives, except for the Mitsumi are SCSI units. We
also carry a number of other drives as well, so if your interested, please
call us at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3937
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93  2:18a
Subj: Busty Special                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

)))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((

NOW IN STOCK  BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
bustiest babes in North America including  Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.

                      PRICE - $25.00

To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((



Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 3938
  To: JACK HUDDLE                              Date: 08/22/93  1:35p
Subj: SBpro for sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JH> I recently purchased a Labtec CD-Rom upgrade kit and I find I have a
JH> brand new Sound Blaster Pro  forsale inthe box unused forsale. I will
JH> let it go for 100.00 plus $5.00 shipping first class (US only) plus 
JH> willthrow in Lemmings at no additional charge with unused manual and 
JH> outputcable that came with the SBPRO....

Hello Jack,
I will make you an offer of $60.00 plus shipping for the soundblaster pro.. 

-Joe
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 3939
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/23/93  1:02a
Subj: PROPHONE CD'S                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS>1993 Prophone 7 cd set- includes residential and business listings fo
AJ> I'll give you $70 for it.  How do I get a hold of you?

Already sold for $85, but thanks for the offer.
 
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 3940
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/23/93  1:02a
Subj: Prophone cd's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL> I'll offer $70 plus postage ($2.90 Priority Mail).
JL> (205) 793-4481

Already sold for $85, but thanks for the offer.
 
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 3941
  To: MICHAEL DAVIS                            Date: 08/23/93  1:02a
Subj: RE: Prophone cd's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MD> Subj: Prophone cd's             Date: 08-08-93  Time: 23:18
MD> Would you accept $40 +shipping and COD for this CD-ROM set?

No I wouldn't have, and they already sold for $85.
 
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 3942
  To: JEFF ALLEN                               Date: 08/23/93  1:02a
Subj: Prophone                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

By: J. Allen, Node 2201/13 (1:2201/13)
To: Chris Snyder
I'll accept an $85.00 C.O.D for this disk ($80.00 for the disk + $3.00
shipping + 2.00 UPS shipping charge).
Let me know if this is OK, or maybe I might have a CD disk you might wan


This is fine, send me your address I'll mail it ASAP.
 
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From: JIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 3943
  To: TIM SCHOOLER                             Date: 08/24/93 11:18a
Subj: Related ?                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Related ?
 
Jim Schooler
1:102/910
 
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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 3944
  To: JIM NEUMILLER                            Date: 08/24/93  7:22a
Subj: Re: Dak Cd-rom Support                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

THE NUMBER FOR TECH SUPPORT IS 1-800-888-9818 I HAVE THE BSR 6800 MX IF YOU 
HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
 
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From: JIM HILGEFORD                          Number: 3945
  To: VIKKI CLAYTON                            Date: 08/23/93  3:49p
Subj: Grandma And Me                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (22 Aug 93) Vikki Clayton wrote to Rita Laws...
 
 VC>  > Hi. If your other buyer drops out in a few weeks, please
 VC>  > leave me a note. I am interested in CD programs for
 VC>  > children, new and used. Have a nice day.
 VC> 
 VC> Have Interactive Storytime Volumes one and two for $20 each.
 VC> 
 VC> Vikki
 VC> 
 VC> --- GEcho 1.00
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 VC> 209/209
 VC> 19 30 43
        I am a grandfather looking for children cd's for a 2 
        year old. do you know where I can obtain a listing
        of what is in most children's CD's, including age that
        they material is considered to bo of use.
        Would be interested in your two CD's if I knew more of
        what they included.
        Thanks in advance  
 
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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 3946
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93  9:12p
Subj: Shareware Explorer!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                         The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 1-800-289-1ROM  FAX: (314) 521-7453
        $69.00         International 314-521-4862     $69.00
                     Shareware Explorer 4 Disk Set!
 
Have you been looking for an alternative to Shareware Extravaganza???
The NEW Shareware Explorer Quad pack is just the ticket.   26,000 files
make this the finest collection available for the serious SYSOP or
shareware enthusiast.  Thousands of Applications and utilities: Games -
arcade, card, strategy, word games and more:  Over 1,000 fonts- ATM,
Postscript, & Truetype; A select few Icons and wallpaper bitmaps;
Source/tools for Actor, C, C++ Basic Pascal, TPW & others.  Completely
BBS ready with multiline file descriptions.   Over 600 megs of Windows
files!  Less then 1% duplication of versions, or same programs across
all 4 volumes!  Easy to use Access program allows even a novice to
quickly and easily search for topics of interst and copy or unarchive
them to a hard disk for further use!
 
                         Don't miss this one folks!
 
*********************************************************************
   VISA          1 - 8 0 0 - 2 8 9 - 1 R O M        MASTERCARD
              ---- 100s of Titles Available ----
 
 
 
 * WCE 1.02/2072 * Ever meet a Sysop who would admit the problem was his?
 
 
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From: DAVID BURKE                            Number: 3947
  To: CHARLEY WEBB                             Date: 08/25/93 12:46a
Subj: Night Owl 9 $25                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> DH>KP>  ********           $ 25.00 a Copy !!!               *****
-> DH>KP>  ******               Ask for Barney                   ***
-> DH>KP>  ******               1-800-638-5757                   ***
-> DH>KP>  ******           We Will NOT be out Sold              ***
 
-> Thats odd, I paid $15.00 for a new Night Owl #9 cd.
 
   Hehehe at this rate we should get our free copy sometime in Oct.
 
                                                     -=- Dave
 
 
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From: SCOTT NIKONT                           Number: 3948
  To: JAMES PUNG                               Date: 08/25/93  1:22a
Subj: Re: For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 22 Aug 93 10:17pm, James Pung wrote to All:
 
 JP>         *****  FOR SALE *******
 
 JP>  (8) 1megx9 Simms 70 ns          $35 ea. obo
 
How about $125 for 4 of them, and you send them to me COD +
shipping?  Let me know here, or NetMail at 14/615.
 
If this deal is a go, would you please go ahead and send before I
get your answer.  Thanks, Scott.
 
Scott Nikont                      I can be reached by contacting:
PO Box 487  309 Cheyenne Ave      The Panhandle Connection BBS
Hemingford NE 69348               (308)487-5505  FidoNet 1:14/615
 
 
... I LOVE spotted owls!!  They taste like chicken!!!
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From: JERRY WEGER                            Number: 3949
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93  6:03p
Subj: Mitsumi & Sound Card                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Recently bought the Mitsumi drive and am having a good time. I don't
have a sound board and have heard alot about conflicts with this drive
and soundcards. I need advice. Is ther a relatively inexpensive sound
card that is compatable?  have heard of on card, I believe it is a
Galaxy something or other, that has the capability of taking the place
of the Mitsumi interface card. Suggestions or advice would be
appreciated. Also prices if possible. MANY THANKS
 
 
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From: JERRY MICKISH                          Number: 3950
  To: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                         Date: 08/25/93  1:08a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Drive For Sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Yes, my CDR-35 is a complete package. All original NEC manuals, driver disks, 
registration cards, and SCSI interface card.
 
 
If interested, please reply here.
 
 
Thanks, Jerry
 
 
 
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From: JERRY MICKISH                          Number: 3951
  To: PIERRE DU PREEZ                          Date: 08/25/93  1:15a
Subj: Cd-rom Drive For Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for your offer to purchase my NEC CD-ROM. If you are still interested, 
you can send the money to me at the following address: 
 
905 2nd Ave. SE
Barnesville, MN 56514-3744.
 
Please e-mail me if you are still interested.
 
 
Thanks,   Jerry
 
 
 
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From: JOSEPH THOMAS                          Number: 3952
  To: JERRY WEGER                              Date: 08/25/93  8:50a
Subj: Mitsumi & Sound Card                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sterio cd and the new Sterio FX/CD made by ATI
and sells for 99 & 149 , in the computer shopper.
Sept, 93.  Also check Aug.93 for a report on this. Tnx.
 
 
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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 3953
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/25/93  6:36p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Who has the best prices on New CD caddies??


Steve

... 313-242-8792
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From: TONY MATA                              Number: 3954
  To: JERRY WEGER                              Date: 08/26/93  1:53a
Subj: Mitsumi & sound card                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jerry, I have my Mitsumi connected to a Sound Galaxy NX PRO 16.  It cost me
$169 and is not too bad of a sound card.  There is a slot to upgrade to SCSI
and there is also a slot (or whatever you want to call it) that will let you
upgrade to wave table synthesis, just like the one on the Sound Blaster 16
(although I don't think the two daughterboards are interchangeable).  The ATI
Stereo F/X is also a Mitsumi-compatible sound card.  Hope this helps!

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From: MIKE BRITT                             Number: 3955
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/24/93  7:06a
Subj: Re: Hitachi Drive For Sale              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TC>      -OR-
 TC>     Will trade this drive for a NICE video Card (1MB), 
 TC> something
 TC>    in the neighborhood of a Diamond or Orchid.
 TC>    IF it's a REALLY nice VGA card, I will include a
 TC>    CYRUSS SVGA Windows Accelerator Card (1MB), really a FAST
 TC>    card!, but due to compatibility problems with a specific
 TC>    program, I need to find a different one...
 TC>    If interested, reply here or call my BBS at (404) 
 TC> 531-0093
 TC>    or NetMail 1:3616/40 for faster results...

       I have a Trident 1 Meg SVGA Card that I will trade and pay a little cash
diffeence to ya. Tell me what is fair for you?

                                                  Mike 

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From: RALPH MOWERY                           Number: 3956
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 08/25/93  9:48a
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JM>Excuse me for butting in, but I have some comments on your settings. Maybe I
JM>so confused I just don't understand, but I think a bit differently from you
JM>choosing the settings.

All comments are welcome Jerry.  There seems to be many ways to do the
same thing. You also pointed out some stuff I missed.


JM>RM>C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 FILES 40
JM>                            ^
JM>Wise choice!  It shows you have read the manual, unusual for MOST users.  Mo
JM>folks think that FILES belongs in Config.sys with QEMM, and they are just
JM>wrong!  BTW, you have FILES in Config.sys ALSO! I didn't know the command wo
JM>work without an "=" sign.

I might have missed the = myself.  Will have to check that one.

JM>RM>SET TEMP=c:\DOS

JM>Not really a wise choice.  The function of SET TEMP is to designate a place
JM>that applications can use for a temporary scratchpad.  Most folks have a
JM>separate directory; many use C:\TEMP or similar.  You are at risk of having
JM>something valuable in C:\DOS scribbled over or corrupted.

Thanks, will probably change.

JM>RM>and CONFIG.SYS file

JM>RM>DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS R:2 exclude=A000-C7FF RAM DBF=2 xst=c000 ST:M
JM>                                          ^^^^^^^^^ Thjis is a LOT of space
JM>exclude.  Most folks get by with excluding only the video portion B000-B0FF,
JM>while others need as much as B000-BFFF.  You ought to consider a Manifest
JM>analysis of your real needs; I'll bet you'd get back a LOT of memory.

Windows would not run without this line.  Not sure about the wrest.
Anyway the book said to use it or turn off stealth in QEMM.  I agree
about the ammount of memory.

 JM>RM>Files = 10
 JM>RM>buffers=10

JM>How do you manage to get by with only 10 buffers here?  I needed 40 for many
JM>things, and Alpha 4 demanded 50!  Notice the 10 files, see above.

I have gone to 8 buffers now.  By using Smartdrive, there is no need for
all the buffers.  I use 8 because that is supose to be
the default of DOS.  Others report only using 2.
Not real sure on the files thing.  Found a hint some where to do it that
way and the other files ( over 10 ) go into the uppper memory area.  I
will have to check on that sometime..

JM>RM>DOS=HIGH,umb
           JM>^^^^
 JM>I'm surprised it works. This is ignored by QEMM, and has been for
 several
JM>versions. See the manual. That ",UMB" is a crutch needed by the
JM>lesser-equipped memory managers.

Will give it a try.  Read too many manuals and may have missed that.

JM>RM>LASTDRIVE=H

JM>Another wise choice; too many folks waste space by using "Z".

Would have used an even lower one, but the CD-rom is labled G: in
several places and too lazey to change it.

JM>RM>  The exclude A000-C7FFand xst=C000 JM>RM>are for the Speedstar
24x vidio board in my system..

JM>Oh.  Well, that's a heck of a lot of memory, a lot more than most boards.

The Speedstar is a 24 bit "True color 16.7 million color " board if
that makes any differance ?? I don't know..

JM>RM>All seems to work well with this setup and no crashes or lock-ups..

JM>You must not be experimenting with it enough then.  Most of us live a little
JM>closer to the edge.  :-)

That is why I have a tape backup.  Crashed enough in the past to find
the set-up now.  Now with your hints, I have some more experminting
to do..


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3957
  To: REBEL                                    Date: 08/24/93  5:18p
Subj: Disk                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

R>I also have a ver 1 BB whats the big deal with it Eddie Goodman 
 
It has become a collector's item due to the controversial content. 
The value is in the eye of the beholder! <G> 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3958
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/24/93  5:20p
Subj: Disk                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>Great! Since my last reply, I've also learned that the words "Graphic 
  >Software" only appear on the Rel. 1 disk. Last I read, Boris got 
  >something like $425 for his BB/R1!!  I think I'll hang on to mine 
  >for a  while...(:> 
 
Yeah, I knew it was a nice disc, but geeze! <G>  I am offering mine for 
bids and seeing what it can bring. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3959
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/24/93  5:22p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PR>   I am not buying I am selling BB#1, to best offer. 
 
Yes, I am aware of that.  Did I accidentally make a "reply" rather than a 
new message?  Sorry about that. <G> 
 
                                                Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3960
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/25/93  9:30p
Subj: Prophone disks needed....               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TC> I am looking for the ProPhone Set, preferably the 93 edition, but will 
  >consider the 92 edition.  I have several disks that I could swap you for 
  >the set, or if the price is right, could purchase.  If interested, reply 
  >and I'll send you a list of disks that I have. 
 
I'll soon have a set of the 1993 discs onhand.  Let me know what you 
have, and maybe we'll make a deal. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: BRIAN BOONE                            Number: 3961
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93 11:33a
Subj: cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a good cd-rom pacage for aroun $500 dollars if anyone
knows where i could get one (other than computer shopper) please leave
me some mail.


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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 3962
  To: MARK GRYN                                Date: 08/22/93  4:44a
Subj: Re: CD for trade...                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MG>     Only CD game I've got to trade is Loom, by LucasFilm. Very
 MG>  cool, and I've still got the manual of course...

If you haven't sold it yet I have spacequestIV I'll trade you for
it?
  ken 412 793 9152

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From: BRETT PARKER                           Number: 3963
  To: MARK GRYN                                Date: 08/25/93  7:10p
Subj: OS/2 2.0 - Mitsumi CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mark Gryn scribbled in a message to all:

MG>     Can someone help me?  Or...anyone got an OS/2 driver for
MG> Mitsumi drives? 

You might check with Huw Upshall at 1:343/301.


--Brett

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From: BRETT PARKER                           Number: 3964
  To: ROBERT LEE                               Date: 08/25/93  7:13p
Subj: CDROM BBS Door!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Robert Lee scribbled in a message to All:


RL> It will even work with CD's that don't even have a files.bbs or other
RL> subdirectory

RL> --- SLMAIL v3.0  (#1187)
RL>  * Origin: Searchlight City BBS (1:283/420)

What's the catch? Where can I get it? How much?


--Brett

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From: CRAIG MOSER                            Number: 3965
  To: TED KIDD                                 Date: 08/24/93  9:28p
Subj: Mac CD-ROMS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  CM> Giga-ROM v3 - Macintosh shareware cdrom
  CM> 
  TK> I have a couple of questions about this disc...
  TK> 
  TK> 1)  Is it BBS compatible (IBM BBS that it...)? 2)  How much? 3)  What
  TK> is the date of the disc?


This is an HFS (mac) disc version 3.0 - if you are looking for an ISO version,
you need to contact Quantum Leap Technologies @ (800)762-2877.
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From: STEVE KRUEGER                          Number: 3966
  To: ALLEN LEVY                               Date: 08/25/93  6:21p
Subj: cd rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I thought you were going to send me a check for the cd rom
It is wednesday and I have not received it yet
If I dont hear from you I have another buyer who is interested in purchasing
it and will sell it to him
214-424-9920
steve krueger



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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3967
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/26/93 11:28a
Subj: Review                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ismail - I'm honored! I'm very much looking forward to receiving it and  can
assure you that it'll get my full attention when it arrives. Thank  you for the
opportunity! 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3968
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/26/93 11:29a
Subj: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUEAUT                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks, Mike. If you haven't already done so, you should soon receive a  letter
from me re: CDs for evaluation. I'd really appreciate your  thoughts on my
proposals, either here or by return snail - your choice. 
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3969
  To: RAY DYER                                 Date: 08/25/93  1:04p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Ray!

    $75 for Night Owl 9? If you can't find one of our
authorized dealers in the Toronto area, give us a call.
Its worth trying mail order out, if its going to save
you $40. You'd pay $75 + 8% Ontario Sales Tax + 7% G.S.T.
through that store ($86.25). With us, you pay $37. Period.
All applicable taxes included. Shipping included.
You receive it in 2-3 days. If you buy *any* other disc
from us along with that Night Owl, you'll receive Shareware
Studio for the cost of the shipping and handling (free+$2).

    I've been a retail customer. I've been a mail order
customer. I've paid high prices, and I've had 1 1/2 month
waits for mail ordered discs to arrive from the U.S. That's
why I'm here - because I knew there had to be a better way
for Canadians like myself. Give us a call at 306-789-4654,
and we'll make *sure* that you never want to go anywhere else.

    Vince
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3970
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/25/93  1:05p
Subj: CANADIAN CD-ROM SOURCE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     Busty Babes release 3.0... order your copy today from
                    the CD-ROM WHOLESALERS!

This is the number one selling adult disc in North America!
This is the disc you've heard owners recommend - not just
the dealers try to sell them, but the people who've bought
them! This is the disc with the revolutionary new interface
SHOWOFF! This is the disc with the licensed private
collection of Michellea! This is the disc you need to own!

              Regularly priced at $40 Cdn / $30US
                   Now just $19 US / $25 Cdn.


                 CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA
                      306-789-4654 Voice
                       306-789-8690 Fax
               306-789-8682 Online BBS Ordering

           Mailing address (please include $2 S/H):
          6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk. Canada S4N 4G7


       This offer is only valid until September 1, 1993.
   This offer may not be combined with any coupons or other
                           specials.

   (Release 3.0 only - Not autographed collector's edition)
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3971
  To: IAN LEVSTEIN                             Date: 08/25/93 12:17p
Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Has the Encylopedia Britannica been released on CD yet?

No, and there apparently are no plans to do so for the indefinite future....


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3972
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/26/93  1:30a
Subj: U.S. Mail                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>are received within the two or three day period. Although this is not a
BO>guareented service, it still works faster and for less the UPS or FED EX.

Yeah, as long as they don't LOSE the darn package, like they've done
with mine several times.  At least with UPS or Fedex you have automatic
insurance coverage.  8)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3973
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/26/93  1:30a
Subj: CD ROM Disk                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>MS>The GAMEWARE Collection is the best I've seen.  We have them in stock
JL>  >at $24.  Around 640mb of games, some older but mostly the newer releases.
JL>  >Fully BBS-compatible with file listings in several formats.  Gimme a
JL>  >call if you're interested!

JL>Hi Mike.  Can you send me one Gameware and charge it to my AMEX card?
JL>Let me know if there is any problem.  Thanks!

Thanks Jim, it's on the way.  Good looking CD!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3974
  To: CHRIS JOHNSON                            Date: 08/26/93  1:30a
Subj: 7TH GUEST ONLY $39!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CJ>                "Kings Quest VI is not just EXELENT, its a LANDMARK
CJ>                GAME."
CJ>                        Just to add.. the price for this is
CJ>                        APPROX 70.00.
CJ>                I recomend that you team up with Sierra and get this
CJ>                on your price list.  maybe even at discounted prices..
CJ>                this game is well... FAR Beyond 7th Guest.. even though
CJ>                I would recomend it..  anyways... see if you can get
CJ>                KINGS QUEST VI CD ROM VER.  It'll sell SO fast.. I'll
CJ>                PROMISE you that..

Well Chris, we have the King's Quest VI's in stock and selling now
at $47 if you're interested.  If you don't have one yet, talk to me!

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3975
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93  1:30a
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

___________________________________________________________________________

                    BRAND NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR!
___________________________________________________________________________

King's Quest VI.....$47   Shareware Explorer..$59   Phonedisc USA.......$69
Soundware Coll'ctn..$27   So Much Shareware 3.$28   Gameware Collection.$24
Aminet Amiga 1993...$15   5 Star Windows......$27   Electronic Cookbook.$33
Hobbes OS/2 1993....$16   Hamware 1993........$28   Mac M/M Space.......$39
Programmers Megapak.$29   Canadian Shareware..$19   Precision Mapping...$79
Shareware Online 2.soon   Microsoft Golf......$58   Mac Shareware.......$22
M/M Computer Tutor..$30   Int'l Graphics Libr.$33   Color Magic Clipart.$28
The Holy Bible......$24   Am. Bus Phonebk 93..$35   Reel Clips..........$35

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3976
  To: ALL CD'ERS                               Date: 08/26/93  1:30a
Subj: NEW CD 4-PAK: $59!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

           >>>>>>>>>  NEW SHAREWARE CD PACKAGE!  <<<<<<<<<<

---------------------[ SHAREWARE EXPLORER 4-PAK ]--------------------------

                               $59.oo

* 26,000+ files
* 3 discs are completely DOS files
* 4th disc is completely Windows 3.0/3.1 files (over 7000)
* Mostly 1992/1993 files
* Less than 1% duplication among the 4 CD's
* BBS ready
* Very nice file retrieval interface and menu system

If you're searching for an updated and better organized equivalent to the
tired old multi-CD shareware sets that are on the market, look here!  The
Shareware Explorer 4-Pak has over 2.5 GIGAbytes of fresh, quality shareware
files, and is ideal for sysops and end users alike!  Only $59.00 while
current supplies last!

BONUS:  Get Powerpak Gold 3.0 for only $10 with purchase!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: SAL PEDONE                             Number: 3977
  To: ALBERT AFONSO                            Date: 08/27/93 12:35a
Subj: Mm encyclopedia                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hello All!
->
-> Looking for a GOOD Encyclopedia with multimedia capabilities. If
-> anyone has suggestions or anything for sale, please let me know. I've
-> heard that Comptons MM Encyclopedia is pretty good.
->
-> Take care,
->
-> Albert Afonso

   I have an unopened copy of Comptons MM Ency for windows v1.01w...
   Asking $45 plus shipping...if interested give me a call or echo here
   Sal 912-956-5163  6pm-9pm EST


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From: SAL PEDONE                             Number: 3978
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 08/27/93 12:36a
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> @SUBJECT:Wanted, Comptons encyclopedia
-> N If anyone has Comptons MPC Encyclopedia for sale used, I want it
-> leave message
-> -Jeff

  I have an unopened copy of Comptons MM Ency for Windows v1.01w...
  Asking $45 plus shipping...let me know if you want it...Sal
  912-956-5163  6pm-9pm EST


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 3979
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/25/93 10:26a
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PR>What's up I thought this CD was selling like hot cakes? I sill have one and
PR>would like to sell it. So anyone that is interested give me a call at
PR>512-939-9822 before the price of this CD goes up to high to buy!

   So what is the price?
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ Don't fight with ugly people.  They have nothing to los


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 3980
  To: MARK GRYN                                Date: 08/25/93 10:33a
Subj: CD for trade...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG>    Barring that, I've also got a Colossal Cookbook CD that is chock full of
MG>recipes...

   How much are you willing to sell it for?
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ Take my advice - I'm not using it.


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From: JOSEPH FEDERKINS                       Number: 3981
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93  5:32p
Subj: CD-ROMS #1                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
=================================================================

Toshiba - 3401 Series - World's Fastest Access Time : 200ms
 - Fully Integrated Audio
 - Double Speed                              Internal $510 + shipping
 - 5.25" CD-ROM Cartridge Drive              External $620 + shipping
 - 330 KB/sec transfer
 - Embedded SCSI-2 Interface
 - MPC compliant
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible


TEAC CD-50 - Access Time : 265ms            Internal $378 + shipping
 - 300 KB/sec transfer rate
 - AntiDust design
 - SCSI-2 Compatible
 - Multimedia compliant
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible
 - SCSI-2 Interface kit required


NEC - Access Time : 280ms                    Internal $576 + shipping
 - CD Audio Capable                          External $653 + shipping
 - 265K Cache
 - 2 year warranty
 - Multispin 300 KB/sec transfer rate
 - Double dust doors and auto lens dust brush
 - High performance XT/AT, SCSI-2 Interface Kit Included
 - Multimedia compliant
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible


Mitsumi - Access Time : 350ms                Internal $209 + shipping
 - 32K Buffer
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible
 - Includes 16bit interface card, cable, and device driver
 - Internal Half Height form factor
 - 150 KB/sec transfer rate
 - Patented Dust proof design
 - Multimedia compliant


Sony Desktop Library Multimedia Starter Kit  Internal $307 + shipping
 - Access Time : 550ms
 - Includes 16bit interface card and cable
 - Complete Documentation
 - Installation Software
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible
 - Internal Half Height form factor
 - Multimedia compliant
 - Includes 4 CD-ROM software titles


Sony Desktop Library Complete Multimedia Kit
 - Access Time : 550ms
 - Includes 16bit interface card and cable
 - 16-bit Pro Audio Spectrum sound board     Internal $505 + shipping
 - Sony SRS-58PC speakers and batteries      External $593 + shipping
 - Complete Documentation
 - Installation Software
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible
 - Multimedia compliant
 - Includes 7 CD-ROM software titles

 Future Business Consultants, Inc     Custom configurations are
 1749 West Golf Road    Suite 305     always available
 Mount Prospect, Illinois   60056
 (708) 437-8889  M-F 10am - 8pm    SAT 12n  - 4pm
 (708) 956-6983  FAX               >>> All times are CST <<<

  Quanities are limited.    Prices are subject to change         8/18/93
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From: JOSEPH FEDERKINS                       Number: 3982
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93  5:32p
Subj: CD-ROMS #2                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
=================================================================

Sony External CD-ROM   (2nd Inventory)    $406 + shipping
 - Access Time : <340ms
 - 150KB/sec transfer rate
 - 8K Buffer
 - Built-in Audio
 - Includes 16bit interface card and cable
 - Laser Library Menu
 - Laser Library Installation
 - Includes 7 CD-ROM software titles
 - 1 year Sony Warranty


Texel
 - Access Time : 265ms                       Internal $488 + shipping
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible         External $565 + shipping
 - SCSI-2 compliant
 - SCSI-2 Interface Adapter
 - 64KB Buffer
 - 330 KB/sec transfer
 - Dust-Proof construction
 - Self cleaning lens


Texel CD-ROM Home Bundle                     Internal $604 + shipping
 - Same CD-ROM drive as above                External $714 + shipping
 - Stereo Headphones
 - Amplified Audio Speakers
 - CD-ROM Software
     Software Toolworks Multimedia        National Parks
     Software Toolworks Game Pack 2       PC-SIG Library
     The San Diego Zoo's: The Animals     Music Sampler CD
     Nautilus Multimedia Family Guide     Music Audio Control Software
     MPC Wizard Test and Tune-Up CD


Texel CD-ROM Multimedia Bundle               Internal $890 + shipping
 - Same CD-ROM drive as above                External $1011 + shipping
 - Stereo Headphones
 - Deluxe Microphone
 - Media Vision 16-bit Soundboard
 - Amplified Audio Speakers
 - CD-ROM Software
     Compton's Encyclopedia               Autodesk Explorer
     Sierra's King's Quest V              Where in the World is
     The San Diego Zoo's: The Animals           Carmen Sandiego
     Software Toolworks Game Pack 2       PC-SIG Library
     Nautilus Multimedia Family Guide     National Parks
     Music Sampler CD                     Music Audio Control Software
     MPC Wizard Test and Tune-Up CD       World View Media Clips





 Future Business Consultants, Inc     Custom configurations are
 1749 West Golf Road    Suite 305     always available
 Mount Prospect, Illinois   60056
 (708) 437-8889  M-F 10am - 8pm    SAT 12n  - 4pm
 (708) 956-6983  FAX               >>> All times are CST <<<

  Quanities are limited.    Prices are subject to change         8/18/93
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From: JOSEPH FEDERKINS                       Number: 3983
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93  5:32p
Subj: CD-ROMS #3                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Software Bundles
=================================================================

Business Bundle               $43 + shipping
 - Software Vault 1 Shareware
 - Software Vault 2 Shareware
 - Prophone Business Edition

Reference Bundle              $65 + shipping
 - Reference Library
 - Family Doctor
 - Atlas Pack World/US

Game Bundle                   $50 + shipping
 - Total BaseBall
 - Mario is Missing
 - Deathstar for Arcade Battles

 **** All bundles require purchase of CD-ROM Drive ****
 **** See previous posts for prices and specifications ****


 Future Business Consultants, Inc     Custom configurations are
 1749 West Golf Road    Suite 305     always available
 Mount Prospect, Illinois   60056
 (708) 437-8889  M-F 10am - 8pm    SAT 12n  - 4pm
 (708) 956-6983  FAX               >>> All times are CST <<<

  Quanities are limited.    Prices are subject to change        8/18/93
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From: CHAD STUDY                             Number: 3984
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/25/93  6:18p
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

IA> Hi Chad,
IA> The individual is doing Amiga disk has published another shareware BBS
IA> disk in the past and his disk is a good one despite to age of the
IA> programs. I am sure he is doing a good job and this disk will be another
IA> winner in the market. The price is right also!...:-) TTYL 

IA> --- DB B2011/001858
IA>  * Origin: GroupMed (1:138/120)

Allright, thanx for the info!!

Chad

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From: BILL WOLF                              Number: 3985
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/25/93  5:08p
Subj: Clip Art                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for a CD-ROM full of Clip Art (for like Pagemaker, MS Word, etc..)
as well as a good collection of TrueType fonts.

If anyone knows of any collections such as the above, please let me know. I'm
looking for a collection for a small DTP business.

Bill

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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 3986
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93 11:54p
Subj: Disks for sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I have several used (but MINT condition) disks that I would like to
 sell (or trade).

  ** Day of The Tenticle.............. 35.00

     Over 4,000 lines of recorded dialogue!  Includes Hint Book.
     This is the sequel to Maniac Mansion, (which is also on the disk)
     So you actually get TWO games in one.

  ** Indiana Jones and Fate of Atlantis.......... 25.00
     Again, this is a FULL talking game.  No text at all!

  ** The Animals of the San Diego Zoo............ 25.00
     Full Multimedia.  Must have Windows, and be displayable in
     256 color.

  ** The 20th Century Almanac.................... 15.00

   Respond here if interested in any of these titles....
   Will trade ALL of the above titles for the PROPHONE set, or
   a Sega Genisis or Super Nintendo.

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From: JEFF BRIELMAIER                        Number: 3987
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 08/25/93 11:39a
Subj: Re: MITSUMI AUDIO                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>Could one of you techies out there help me with a minor nagginy problem.
JR>I play my cd as an audio, using PLAYCD,  whenever I'm not using it for a
JR>ROM drive and it works except whenever I start an UPLOAD it stops.  What
JR>makes this so confusing is that it just keeps right on trucking when I
JR>download leading me to believe that there's no interupt conflict.  This
JR>is the only time I have problems with it.  It's a Mitsumi internal using
JR>the latest drivers.

It sounds like you are using Telix version 3.20/3.21 (the version w/ the
"pickbox" for uploading.  If you have version 3.20, you need to get a copy of
3.21.  Below is snippet from the "what's new" file for Telix v3.21:

  February 5, 1993 -- Notes on Telix 3.21:

   o The picklist box has been a continuing source of problems to users of
     removable drives (Bernoulli, device driven floppies, etc).  A new,
     user-editable line can be added to TELIX.CNF (but only with a text
     editor -- there was no room for this one under ALT-O):

     drivelst="acdxz"

     Each of the letters listed in quotes is validated as being a
     POTENTIAL drive letter (i.e. A-Z) and then added to the picklist.  If
     you try to list a drive that doesn't exist, Telix will *accept* the
     drive unchecked, *until* you try to toggle to that drive via the box,
     at which time Telix will attempt to validate the drive, and will not
     allow the change.

     If this parameter is not listed in the config file, Telix will
     continue to validate all drives when you press PgUp or Alt-S.

Add that line to the TELIX.CNF file and include ONLY the drive letters that
you want Telix to look at (by default) when you do an upload.  (I know about
the problem....I had the same problem with my Mitsumi :)

 * KingQWK 1.05 * Registered Telix User #A1013171-*****
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3988
  To: TONY MILES                               Date: 08/26/93  7:52p
Subj: Busty Babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > PR>What's up I thought this CD was selling like hot cakes? I sill have one
 > and
  >would like to sell it. So anyone that is interested give me a call at
  >512-939-9822 before the price of this CD goes up to high to buy!
  >         Also will trade for CD player, CD's, tape backup, or mother board (
  >lest a 40dx). Also in need of some simms. Call and lets make a deal!
  >                                  Pat

 > Are you interested in Windows 3.0 with multimedia CD
 > or Smutware CD?

Already have those CDs but would like a CD player]
 Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3989
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/26/93  8:04p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > PR>   I am not buying I am selling BB#1, to best offer.

 > Yes, I am aware of that.  Did I accidentally make a
 > "reply" rather than a
 > new message?  Sorry about that. <G>

 >                                                 Jim...
Thats alright but if know any one wants one gove them my number 512-939-9822,
Thanks!
                                        Pat

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From: DAVE WILGA                             Number: 3990
  To: JOSEPH FEDERKINS                         Date: 08/26/93  6:44p
Subj: Cd-roms #1                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JF> Toshiba - 3401 Series - World's Fastest Access Time : 200ms
JF>  - Fully Integrated Audio
JF>  - Double Speed                              Internal $510 + shipping
JF>  - 5.25" CD-ROM Cartridge Drive              External $620 + shipping
JF>  - 330 KB/sec transfer
JF>  - Embedded SCSI-2 Interface
JF>  - MPC compliant
JF>  - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible

JF>   Quanities are limited.    Prices are subject to change         8/18/93
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

If you'll beat CompUADD's  $399 for the same drive you'll have a deal.


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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 3991
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/26/93 11:12a
Subj: LIMITED SUPPLY                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris,

don't forget that those cd players are also windows NT compatable.  am using my
83 with it very nicely, which would validate the 73 also.  later,


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 3992
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93  2:17p
Subj: Night Owl Graphics CD v1                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*@SUBJECT:Night Owl Graphics CD v1 in Stock!!!                        N
             TCM Computing and Night Owl Publisher Inc., ANNOUNCE:

                         NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS v1 !!!

                         In Stock and Shipping !!!

The same team that brought you Night Owl 9 has now joined forces to bring
you the very BEST in Graphics!!  This new CD contains over 640 Meg. of
high-resolution GIFs and JPGs, as well as TIF, TGA, PCX, Animations,
Clipart, Fractals, Windows wallpaper and icons, plus graphics programs and
utilities:  over 4,500 of the best graphics files from '92 & '93.

                  Availability: NOW!
                  Special Introductory Price:  $39 !!
                  Rated: PG

You can check out this outstanding new Night Owl product yourself by calling
TCM and either (J)oining conference #81 or by downloading NIGHT_G1.ZIP.
Night Owl Graphics v1 may be ordered from TCM in several ways:

  - send check/money order with $39+$3s/h to the address below,
  - call us voice (leave a message if we aren't available)
  - Send us a Fax for Credit Card and COD Orders
  - Call the BBS and leave a message to the Sysop for COD Orders
  - Call the BBS and use the ORDER Door for Credit Card Orders

 [ TCM is the Official Night Owl Support BBS - call for the latest news ]

 [ TCM is an Official Night Owl Distributor - Dealers call for Pricing ]

TCM Computing                                        (703) 439-8032
Rt. 2 Box 130                                        (703) 439-8237 Fax
Midland, Va. 22728                                   (703) 439-3060 BBS

PS:  I will be taking a few days the week of 8/30 to do some fishing
     with friends.  Any orders we receive during that time will be
     immediately shipped upon my return.
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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 3993
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93  2:18p
Subj: Night Owl Windows CD v1 P               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*@SUBJECT:Night Owl Windows CD v1 Pre-Release Announcement!!          N

                  Announcing ANOTHER New Night Owl Product:

                          NIGHT OWL WINDOWS v1 !!!

                     600+ Meg. of files for Windows
                           95%+ 1993 files!
                     Availability:  mid-September '93
                   Windows Retrieval Engine & BBS Ready
                             Price: $49

If you have been looking for a Windows CD with the very best in Programs,
Applications, WAVs, BMPs, AVIs, Utilities, etc., look no further!!  You can
now get all this with the well-known Night Owl quality!!!  PLUS!, the
famous Night Owl retrieval engine has been updated for Windows access!!

TCM is now accepting ADVANCE orders for this new Night Owl product (no one
will have the disk before TCM).  For those of you who would like to check
out the contents of this new CD, we hope to have the DIRs available to d/l
from TCM BBS around Sept. 5th (call the BBS and check for NIGHT_W1.ZIP).
We will also be sending out another TCM Newsletter with the info on this
new disk.  If you aren't on our mailing list leave a message with your name
and address.  Members of our newsletter "family" receive substantial
discounts on all Night Owl products.

TCM has been affiliated with Night Owl for more than 3 years.  We have been
active participants in the development of the disks (e.g. NOPV9 & the new
Night Owl Graphics CD).  Why go with other dealers that sell a bazillion
other disks and are clueless about what is actually on Night Owl?  TCM
specializes in Night Owl; that is why TCM BBS is the Official Night Owl
Support Board.

       ____________________Combo Specials_____________________

       N.O. Windows & Graphics............................$ 69
       N.O. Windows & NOPV9...............................$ 69
       N.O. Windows, Graphics, & NOPV9....................$ 89
       N.O. Windows, Graphics, NOPV9, & NOPV8.............$ 99  !!SPECIAL!!

Please Note: all combos that include the Windows CD will be shipped upon
the availability of the Windows disk (mid-September).  Those of you on
our mailing list will receive a newsletter in appro. 2 weeks with special
discount pricing.  If you want to be put on our list, DO IT NOW!

Night Owl CDs may be ordered from TCM in several ways:

  - send check/money order with appropriate payment (+$3s/h),
    to the address below,
  - call us voice (leave a message if we aren't available)
  - Send us a Fax for Credit Card and COD Orders
  - Call the BBS and leave a message to the Sysop for COD Orders
  - Call the BBS and use the ORDER Door for Credit Card Orders

 [ TCM is the Official Night Owl Support BBS - call for the latest news ]

 [ TCM is an Official Night Owl Distributor - Dealers call for Pricing ]

TCM Computing                                        (703) 439-8032
Rt. 2 Box 130                                        (703) 439-8237 Fax
Midland, Va. 22728                                   (703) 439-3060 BBS
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From: DON BRADEN                             Number: 3994
  To: KEN TULLY                                Date: 08/26/93  9:22p
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for your help. I managed to juggle some of my drivers etc. and got
the program to work. It is worth the trouble.

--- Maximus 2.01wb
 * Origin: The Eagle's Nest BBS (1:249/152)
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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 3995
  To: PHILIP POLSTRA                           Date: 08/26/93  8:19p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Blaine Richard <08-22-93 07:51> Philip Polstra wrote:

PP>   BR> To the SYSOPS who do not like the fact that "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES"
PP>  can
PP>   BR> not be put on their BBS, we have recommended that they offer the
PP>  disc
PP>   BR> for sale on their BBS.  Many of them that followed our advice
PP>  have
PP>   BR> found that they can make more money from the sales of "SOUTHERN
PP>   BR> BEAUTIES" than they do from subscription fees.
PP>   BR>
PP>  I'm sure you'd love that.  Exclude the sysops by telling them they
PP>  can't use it on their BBS and then suggest they peddle it for ya!
PP>  Only an idiot would run a BBS to make money as it is nearly
PP>  impossible.  Most sysops uses that subscription money to buy CD's for
PP>  the BBS, etc.  Looks like they won't be spending any of that sub
PP>  money on this one.

Mr. Polstra, thank you for your reply.  You are correct that I
would LOVE to have SYSOPS distributing "Southern Beauties". It
is not Graphical Images of Florida's decision to not allow
"Southern Beauties" to be used on BBSs.

Most photographers make their living by selling or licensing
the use of their work.  In our contracts, it is forbidden to
distribute the material without paying royalties to the
photographer.

As to whether or not only idiots can make money running a BBS,
you need to be introduced to Rusty & Eddy's and Event Horizons,
to name a few.  As it is so difficult to make money operating
a BBS, selling CDs can only help offset the costs.

With the exception of a few, any disc that presently is allowed
to be used on BBSs, probably violates copyrights and perhaps
should not be put on a BBS.  You may feel that distributing
copyrighted material, for which royalties are not paid, is
acceptable.

BTW: I don't know of any profitable aviation BBS's  
 
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From: TYRONE THOMASON                        Number: 3996
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/27/93 11:36a
Subj: MAPS CDROM Which one?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>I like it better because it lets you print, modify, and even create your
MS>own maps.  Plus, if you want to cut a portion of a map, and import it
MS>into another program, you can do it.  Street Atlas, besides having two
MS>year old data, doesn't have these features.  Also, Precision Mapping
MS>runs faster because it doesn't have Windows hanging overhead.  We have
MS>the updated version 1.5b in stock at $88 if you're interested.  Street
MS>Atlas is also in stock at $86.

I already ordered it from you.  I figure it should arrive today if you
didn't send it by UPS.  I watched them them deliver my last order you to
the house next door (it was addressed correctly).......  The house was
noticeably vacant.  Yes, I mean noone lived there period.

     Ty.

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From: TYRONE THOMASON                        Number: 3997
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/27/93 12:31p
Subj: U.S. Mail                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


MS>Yeah, as long as they don't LOSE the darn package, like they've done
MS>with mine several times.  At least with UPS or Fedex you have automatic
MS>insurance coverage.  8)                 ^^^

Not exactly true.  Ask Hi-Q Computers in Atlanta, GA.  UPS somehow
misplaced a computer they are swearing they delivered.  Hi-Q has yet to
receive the insurance reimbursement.  UPS in this state has a habit of
dropping your package and running whether someone is at home or not.  As
I mentioned in my previous message to you they can't tell an empty
house with the number clearly in front, no blinds or curtains and bare
inside from a occupied house with the number clearly in front.

            Ty.


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From: TYRONE THOMASON                        Number: 3998
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/27/93 12:39p
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


MS>King's Quest VI.....$47   Shareware Explorer..$59   Phonedisc USA.......$69
MS>Soundware Coll'ctn..$27   So Much Shareware 3.$28   Gameware Collection.$24
MS>Aminet Amiga 1993...$15   5 Star Windows......$27   Electronic Cookbook.$33
MS>Hobbes OS/2 1993....$16   Hamware 1993........$28   Mac M/M Space.......$39
MS>Programmers Megapak.$29   Canadian Shareware..$19   Precision Mapping...$79
                                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^!?!
Hey .\\ike, I was charged $88 for Precision Mapping, what gives?  I also
notice NightOwl 9.0 is going for $25 and I was charged $28.  Could you
send me two CD Caddies and we call it even?

         Ty.


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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 3999
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93 11:46a
Subj: Seventh Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GOT A COPY OF THE SEVENTH GUEST FOR TRADE.
RATHER INTERESTING PUZZLES (DONLOADED A HINTS FILE CAUSE I WASNT THAT
SMART) BUT JUST DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO SPEND SOLVING THEM (ACTUALLY
HAD A HDD CRASH AND LOST MY SAVE FILES AND MY INTREST IN GOING ALL THE
WAY BACK THROUGH THE GAME SEEING I WAS ALMOST THROUGH IT). ANY ONE
INTERESTED LEAVE A MESAGE HERE OR CALL ME AT 512-275-3273. INTERESTED
IN AN ENCLYPODIA(EXCUSE MY SPELLING) OR POSSIBLY OTHER GAMES. NOT
INTERESTED IN SHAREWARE(I'LL DOWNLOAD ANYTHING I NEED) OR XXX CD'S(I
THINK MY WIFE MIGHT MIND...MAYBE...).

THANKS A MILLION!!!

MIKE


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From: DAVID MOORE @ 910/114                  Number: 4000
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/25/93  7:44p
Subj: Re: 2 ROMS FOR SALE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          Al James wrote 
 €€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€
€€€I have a couple of CD's that I am willing to trade or sell.
€€€
€€€U.S. History on CD-Rom
€€€Terrorist Group Profiles on CD-ROM
€€€Microsoft Bookshelf (CD-ROM)
€€€
€€€
€€€Give me an offer or tell me what you have to trade.
€€€
€€€
€€€-!- ProBoard v1.31 [Reg]
€€€ ! Origin:  € Aesopian Systems € 304.744.9059 € (1:279/7)
€€€
€€€
 €€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€

        Tell me about the Terrorist group profile CD...

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4001
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93 11:19p
Subj: OS/2 CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

==================== OS2 ON CD For Only $65.00 ? ====================
                              IN STOCK
 Until Septemeber 14, 1993 you can purchase the complete OS/2 v2.21
 package, which offer's you the installation disks, cd, manuals and
 other special discounts for only $65.00!
 Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the
 rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom
 line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65.

    Call NOW and get your copy today! ORDER LINE ONLY 800-243-0517



Boris Osadciw

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4002
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/27/93  1:26a
Subj: $9/$19/$29 CD SPECIALS!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                              -----------
                                $9 CD'S
                              -----------

 Phoenix 3.0        WIN/OS2        Windoware        Super Games for Windows
 Powerpak Gold 3    Phethean's     Ham Radio 3.0    Super Games for DOS


                             ------------
                               $19 CD'S
                             ------------

     PC-SIG 12             Moving Fantasies (a)    Visual Fantasies (a)
     Canadian Shareware    Kodak Photo CD          Cookbook Heaven
     Lion's Share          House of Games          Clipart Heaven
     Barney Bear Space     Firearms Reference      CD Winbox
     Storm 1 (a)           Shareware Studio 1      Night Owl 7
     Up All Night          Guinness Disc           Arizona Images


                             ------------
                               $29 CD'S
                             ------------

     Private Pictures (a)   US Wars: Vietnam    US Wars: Desert Storm
     US Wars: WWII          US Wars: Korea      Ecstasy Hot Pics (a)
     Seventh Heaven (a)     Porkware (a)        Int'l Graphics Library

 (a) = adult 21+

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4003
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/27/93  1:26a
Subj: $4 SHAREWARE CD!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                       +-------------------------+
  CHECK                |   SPECIAL BONUS OFFER   |     GET A FULL 650MB
                       +-------------------------+     OF RECENT SHAREWARE
     THIS              |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0    |     FOR
                       |     REVISED EDITION     |          ONLY
        OUT !!         |    SHAREWARE CD ONLY    |
                       |  $4.00  W/ PURCHASE OF  |         4   BUCKS!
           ----------> |    ANY PACKAGE DEAL!    |         ----------
                       +-------------------------+

-------------[ CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS ]------------------------------------

1. Night Owl 7.0     2. Storm 1     3. Southern Beauties     4. Hot Pix 3
   Night Owl 8.0        Storm 2        All Beauties             Hot Pix 4
   Night Owl 9.0        Storm 3        Amateur Models           Hot Pix 5
   -------------        -------        --------------           ---------
   $69                  $69            $89                      $79


       5. Night Owl 8.0     6. Night Owl 9     7. All Beauties
          Night Owl 9.0        Pier 2             Southern Beauties
          -------------        ------             -----------------
          $53                  $59                $59


8. Up All Night            9. Empire Clipart             10. Pier 2
   Super CD 2                 Clipart Heaven                 SW Vault 2
   So Much Shareware 3        Encyclopedia of Clipart        SW Studio 2
   -------------------        -----------------------        -----------
   $63                        $59                            $65


11. CD Winbox      12. House of Games     13. Busty Babes     14. Storm 2
    Windows 93         Game Arena             Ecstasy             Storm 3
    ----------         ----------             -------             -------
    $44                $35                    $49                 $49


15. Fantazia Fonts         16. Porkware 1       17. Compton's Interactive
    Fontmaster 2               Porkware 2           U.S. Atlas MPC
    Too Many Typefonts         All Beauties         Learning Adventure
    ------------------         ------------         ------------------
    $49                        $89                  $129


PLUS, AN ADDED BONUS . . . . .

           WINDOWS/OS2 SHAREWARE CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: JIM NEUMILLER                          Number: 4004
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 08/26/93  3:01p
Subj: Re: DAK CD-ROM SUPPORT                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Steve,
        Thanks for the help.  I'm really looking for a good source of disks
actually.  I just bought a Procom drive...but don't have much to put on it
yet....
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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 4005
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/26/93  4:12p
Subj: $99 Cd Rom Drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TB>Sorry they are all gone.  If you send me your voice phone number I'll call y

ok

James
813-345-7297
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From: RICK SHOAF                             Number: 4006
  To: KEN TULLY                                Date: 08/27/93  1:24a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes V1.0                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 KT>  Your getting closer...  Now move the DECIMAL point to the
 KT>  right a little and we can talk.  There are not many V1.0 BB
 KT>  available, and I think even fewer autographed by Lee and
 KT>  Blaine.  I have been offered $250 so far, so if anyone is
 KT>  interested, I will be selling it off very soon.  You can reach
 KT>  me at 203-387-3174.

Why is this disk so valuable? How can I tell if my disk is a V1.0?
I believe that mine says something about being release 1.0 on the inside
clear plastic.


Rick

Rick Shoaf

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From: MARK GUTT                              Number: 4007
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 08/26/93  6:06a
Subj: Busty Babes 1.0                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ryan, you might be able to get the new release(3.0) for $23, but I don't think
you will get release 1.0 for that price.I'll keep you in mind though.

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From: STEPHEN DURFEE                         Number: 4008
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93  8:46p
Subj: <> CD-ROM TITLES & MORE <>              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                  allegro computer services
                         raleigh, nc
                      tel: 919.571.8991
                    telefax: 919.571.8938
                   compuserve: 71155,2711
             internet: 71155.2711@compuserve.com
                              
allegro  computer services is now linked up with the largest
distributor  of  computer merchandise in the united  states!
reap   the  benefits  today!   call,  fax  or  e-mail   (via
CompuServe or Internet)for a free price quote and/or product
list of software and CD-ROM titles.
 
 



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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 4009
  To: ROBERT PICARD                            Date: 08/28/93  9:17p
Subj: Looking for some CDs                    Refer: 7377
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Shareware Studio Volume III

It'll begin shipping on Tuesday, Sep 7th...

tim
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 4010
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93  7:26a
Subj: Cica Windows Update                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CICA Windows CD-ROM disk had been updated and now available from
 
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400 1-800-373-0628
1-206-473-1634 FAX  1-800-277-5179 FAX 

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 4011
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93  7:37a
Subj: PGG1 - New Adult Disk                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
New Adult Disk
 
PGG1 - Proffessional Graphics Group I
 
Thousands of High Quality, High Resolution, Copyrighted GIF
and animations.
 
This disk a work of 4 different professional photographers. All
material is original!
 
Price: $49.95
 
Available thru:
 
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
 
1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
FAX 1-206-473-1634 or 1-800-277-5179

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 4012
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93  7:47a
Subj: Total Fantasy -Adult                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

New Adult Disk
 
Total Fantasy
 
Thousands of High Quality GIF and animations.
         
Price: $29.95
 
Available thru:
 
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
 
1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
FAX 1-206-473-1634 or 1-800-277-5179

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From: DAVE MCEWEN                            Number: 4013
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93  6:32p
Subj: Info Needed                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

I am looking for information on CD Disks. I have bought a version of Night  Owl
9 and am looking for other CD's of this quality. What I am looking for  is more
the shareware Disks. I would also like to find out how often the  Night Owl
disks come out and where I could possibly get a list of prices  and Disks. I
have been told that a Mike Shannon would be the man to speak to about this but
I don't quite know how to get hold of him. Mike if you  are out there could you
netmail me at 5:7104/9.

Cheers,
           Dave

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From: TODD OSTRER                            Number: 4014
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93  4:07a
Subj: cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DEALER CD-ROMs

MINIMUM ORDER IS 5 CD-ROMs (can mix).   (Good Volume Discounts)

   Visa, MC, AmEx, Discover,
   Money Order.

Todd Ostrer
2473 S.E. 135th
Portland, Or. 97233
(503)257-7255 24 hrs / 7 days
(503)257-7264 (BBS) 14.4v32

ADULT
Adult Palate (PC or Mac)........... 28
Adult Reference Library............ 25
After Dark Trilogy................. 40
All Beauties....................... 29
Amateur Models..................... 29
Animation Fantasies Vol 1 or 2..... 28
Asian Ladies....................... 29
Busty Babes........................ 29
Deep Throat........................ 49
Digital Dancing.................... 49
Digital Dreams..................... 30
Dirty Talk......................... 45
Ecstasy Hot Pics................... 29
Erotic Encounters.................. 29
Erotic Encounters 2................ 29
FAO (3 disk set)................... 65
Foxes.............................. 27
Gay World 1........................ 30
Gay World 2........................ 30
GBL (gay, bi-sexual, lesbian)...... 30
Giffy Gold......................... 28
Glamour Girls 1943................. 40
Hidden Obsessions.................. 43
Hot Hunks..(gay)................... 30
House of Sleeping Beauties (movie). 45
Island Girls....................... 24
Lovely Ladies II................... 28
Manpower (gay)..................... 30
Moving Fantasies (194 movies)...... 35
My First Time (2 CDs).............. 43
My Private Collection 1 or 2....... 28
Mystique of the Orient............. 43
Night Watch Interactive............ 45
Nix Pix Hot Pix 1.................. 55
Nix Pix Hot Pix 2, 3, 4 or 5....... 26
PC Pix 1, 2 or 3................... 28
Physical Therapy (XXX-Extreme)..... 26
Pixure ROM 1, 2 or 3............... 30
Pixure ROM Triple Exposure (3 CDs). 85
Pork-Ware 1........................ 28
Pork-Ware 2........................ 29
Private Pictures................... 29
RimFire Pacific.................... 43
Seedy Rom 1 thru 6 (each).......... 29
Seedy Rom 6 pack...................150
Seedy Rom 7th Heaven............... 30
Seedy Rom Movie Disk #1............ 33
Sexxcapades, The Movie............. 47
Smutware........................... 28
So Much Stareware.................. 28
Southern Beauties.................. 32
Storm 1............................ 26
Storm 1, 2 & 3..................... 72
Storm 2............................ 26
Storm 3............................ 26
Swimware 1993...................... 29
Swimware & More.................... 28
Visual Fantasies................... 28
Volcano............................ 27
Wicked............................. 55
Women of Venus (bathing suits)..... 28

ART & GRAPHICS
--------------
Clip Art Galore.................... 30
Clip Art Goliath................... 22
Clip Art Heaven.................... 30
Corel Upgrade to ver 3, CD included150
DTP Dream Disk (clip art,fonts,book 50
Gifs Galore........................ 25
Just Fonts v1...................... 33
Library of Art: Europe, America.... 65
Mother Earth....................... 33
Publish It Ver. 2.................. 30
Publisher's Paradise............... 33
So Much Screenware................. 33
Too Many Fonts..................... 22
Wild Places (with sound)........... 36
World View  (with sound)........... 36

BUSINESS
--------
Amer Business Phone Book '92....... 26
Britannica Select Software......... 30
Business Master.................... 28
Marketing Master................... 30
Pro Phone '92 (3 CDs).............. 50
Pro Phone '93 (7 CDs)..............140
Pro Phone Business '93............. 43

EDUCATION
---------
Aesop's Fables..................... 30
Animals of the San Diego Zoo....... 26
Animals of the San Diego Zoo (MPC). 28
Arthur's Teacher Trouble........... 50
Barney Bear Goes to School......... 28
Beauty & the Beast................. 30
Beethoven, multimedia.............. 60
Best of Both Worlds (PC Globe)..... 50
Birds by Audobon, multimedia....... 33
Britannica Family Choice........... 30
CD Menu & Music Player............. 23
Carmen San Diego deluxe............ 36
Classic Coll(Mam,Birds,Holmes,Shake 55
Education Master................... 26
Great Cities of the World v 1 or 2  30
Great Wonders of the World......... 40
Interactive Storytime 1 or 2....... 36
Jazz, a multimedia history......... 70
Just Grandma & Me.................. 48
MacMillan Dictionary for Children.. 40
Mammals by Audobon................. 30
Mammals, National Geographic....... 30
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing........ 30
Mixed-Up Mother Goose.............. 28
Monarch Notes...................... 66
Musical Instruments, Microsoft..... 60
Peter & The Wolf................... 30
Presidents Started with George..... 80
Putt Putt Joins the Parade......... 47
Sleeping Beauty.................... 42
Talking Classic Tales.............. 36
Talking Jungle Safari.............. 36
Talking Schoolhouse................ 36

GAMES
-----
7th Guest (2 CDs).................. 48
Battlechess Enhanced............... 58
Battlechess Multimedia............. 30


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From: TODD OSTRER                            Number: 4015
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93  4:07a
Subj: cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
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Chessmaster 3000................... 30
Deathstar.......................... 22
Game Master........................ 26
Game Pak I, Toolworks.............. 23


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From: ALAN WILLIAMS                          Number: 4016
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93  9:18p
Subj: CD-ROM PROGRAM WANTED                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone selling "Shadow President" on CD-ROM?

If so, please give me a mailing address and amount so I can send you and 
order.  Shipping will be via U.S. Snailmail.... thanks.

Al
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From: RODNEY RUDD                            Number: 4017
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 08/27/93 12:59a
Subj: AI CDRom                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EB>     I am looking for any and all CDroms dealing with AI and
EB> Neural Nets,
EB> if anyone has any for sale, or knows of any, I'd like to here
EB> about them!
 
Me too!  As long as they contain ANSI compatible "C" source code, that is!
 
:-)

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From: ROBERT BIR                             Number: 4018
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 08/25/93  9:23p
Subj: Precision Mapping                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hello michael  i will buy that disc for $70.00 leave me e mail
   if your interested
                        ROBERT A BIR
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From: SHADOW SMITH                           Number: 4019
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93  6:32p
Subj: Looking for:                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for any of the 650MB movies on CD_ROM.  If you any, please
respond to this message.  Thanks!

Shadow Smith

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From: MARK WOMACK                            Number: 4020
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/25/93  2:22p
Subj: Prophone disks needed....               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Todd,

TC> I am looking for the ProPhone Set, preferably the 93 edition, but
TC> will consider the 92 edition.  I have several disks that I could swap

I recently got the ProPhone 93 set from Dustin Discount Software and
the guy told me that there was going to be another version released
in a few weeks and they were taking orders.  I don't know how true  
this is, that's just what he told me.
Please do your homework before you by this CD set.  This isn't the  
proper echo for me to voice my opinion so I won't get started...


... Despite the cost of living, it remains popular.  
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4021
  To: IAL)........  94.95                      Date: 08/26/93  9:35p
Subj: Weekly CDROM Specials                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

           PCJ "Hot" WEEKLY SPECIALS 8/26 - 8/31

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From: PAUL ELLIOTT                           Number: 4022
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/18/93 12:03a
Subj: News, Weather and Sports for your BBS   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sysops, You Can Now Carry Current News on Your BBS. For .50 per Day.
All News is updated each morning. In depth, accurate articles from several 
international sources.
  
 Headline News
 World News                   Weekly Special Features
 National News
 Washington News              Video Rentals & Sales
 Business News                Nielson TV Ratings
 Daily Market News            Music Industry Top Sellers
 NYSE Closing Prices          Weekend Box Office Receipts
 AMEX Closing Prices
 Baseball
 Basketball
 Football
 College Sports
 Tennis & Golf
 Misc. Sports
 Entertainment News
 Science News
 Weather

For a sample file and subscription form Freq. SAMPLE.ZIP from 1:362/1202
or Call IBEX BBS at (615) 870-9144

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From: PAUL ELLIOTT                           Number: 4023
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93 12:03a
Subj: News, Weather and Sports for your BBS   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sysops, You Can Now Carry Current News on Your BBS. For .50 per Day.
All News is updated each morning. In depth, accurate articles from several 
international sources.
  
 Headline News
 World News                   Weekly Special Features
 National News
 Washington News              Video Rentals & Sales
 Business News                Nielson TV Ratings
 Daily Market News            Music Industry Top Sellers
 NYSE Closing Prices          Weekend Box Office Receipts
 AMEX Closing Prices
 Baseball
 Basketball
 Football
 College Sports
 Tennis & Golf
 Misc. Sports
 Entertainment News
 Science News
 Weather

For a sample file and subscription form Freq. SAMPLE.ZIP from 1:362/1202
or Call IBEX BBS at (615) 870-9144

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From: MICHAEL BULLOCK                        Number: 4024
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93 10:28p
Subj: Looking For DBASE or FoxPro 2.x CD-ROM  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi all,  I was wondering if anyone knows of a CD that contains ONLY DBASE
or FoxPro2.x/FoxBASE shareware???

I run FoxBBS in Chattanooga which deals primarily in Database programming, 
Please feel free to upload any shareware you may have or let me know of
the CD's you have or have seen.

Thanks,  Mike B.
FoxBBS 615-870-2193

... It works!  Now, if only I could remember what I did.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4025
  To: DAVID ROBERTS                            Date: 08/27/93  3:53p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes 1.0                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DR>  
 DR> I read this message you had left Lee and am just 
 DR> wondering why is this disk
 DR> so valuable, I paid $25 for it 6 months ago.
 DR>  
Anybody who would pay $250 for a $35 CDROM disc is a real fool <g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4026
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 08/27/93  3:56p
Subj: BB                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MG> day and
 MG>   was way too late.  He was down to his last 4 CDs and the price had
 MG>   already climbed to at least $250.oo  Had to 
 MG> settle for one of those cheap
 MG>   $25.oo CDs.  Guess I will never know what I 
 MG> missed, but since I never had
 
That has got to be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of to pay $250
for a CD disc.  I have one here on my BBS and Busty has always been a great CD
disc, but it sure isn't worth paying $250 for.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4027
  To: ROBERT PICARD                            Date: 08/27/93  3:59p
Subj: Looking for some CDs                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RP> Simtel 93  ( X 2 )
 RP> CD PowerBox
 RP> Software Vault Collection 2
 RP> Our Solar System
 RP> Shareware Studio Volume III
 RP> Night Owl 9.0
 RP> Monster Media 93

We have just about the lowest prices around on these.  Call our BBS at
615-479-1047 (14400) and download PCJCDS.ZIP for the current prices.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4028
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/27/93  4:04p
Subj: weekly cd specials                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

           PCJ "Hot" WEEKLY SPECIALS 8/26 - 8/31
 
Busty Babes v3.0.........................................  24.95
Microsoft Bookshelf (Windows MPC)........................  44.95
Mystic of the Orient (Adult Video).......................  36.95
ProPhone 1993 (7 CD Set - Business & Residential)........  94.95
Prophone 1992 (3 CD Set - 1 Business & 2 Residential)....  34.95
Software Toolworks Bundles:
US & World Atlas/Animals/Reference Library/Grolier's......  72.95
US & World Atlas/Animals/Reference Library/Grolier's MPC..  84.95
 
  Orders - 800-547-7817 (9 - 9 EST) or 615-339-0235 (24 Hours)

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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 4029
  To: JIM HILGEFORD                            Date: 08/26/93  6:48p
Subj: GRANDMA AND ME                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >         I am a grandfather looking for children cd's for a
 > 2
 >         year old. do you know where I can obtain a listing

It's okay, Jim, I even sell things to grandfathers !
Volume 1 has Goldilocks, The little red hen, and the boy and the donkey. 
Volume 2 has Peter and the Wolf, the milkmaid and her pail, and belling the
cat.  Vol. 2 includes a color book option
that prints out the story in coloring book pages !
Click on any word to hear it pronounced, or click on any object to hear the
word.
The only way I have found to know what's in the CD's is to order a whole bunch
of catalogs - or to ask.

Vikki

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From: CHRIS JOHNSON                          Number: 4030
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 08/27/93  5:14p
Subj: Seventh Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MRH> GOT A COPY OF THE SEVENTH GUEST FOR TRADE.
 MRH> RATHER INTERESTING PUZZLES (DONLOADED A HINTS FILE CAUSE I WASNT THAT
 MRH> SMART) BUT JUST DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO SPEND SOLVING THEM (ACTUALLY
 MRH> HAD A HDD CRASH AND LOST MY SAVE FILES AND MY INTREST IN GOING ALL THE
 MRH> WAY BACK THROUGH THE GAME SEEING I WAS ALMOST THROUGH IT). ANY ONE
 MRH> INTERESTED LEAVE A MESAGE HERE OR CALL ME AT 512-275-3273. INTERESTED
 MRH> IN AN ENCLYPODIA(EXCUSE MY SPELLING) OR POSSIBLY OTHER GAMES. NOT
 MRH> INTERESTED IN SHAREWARE(I'LL DOWNLOAD ANYTHING I NEED) OR XXX CD'S(I
 MRH> THINK MY WIFE MIGHT MIND...MAYBE...).

 MRH> THANKS A MILLION!!!

 MRH> MIKE

        Hmmm.. I dont have any CD's to trade you.. but I'll
        offer 30.00 for it..??..!!

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From: CRAIG EDON                             Number: 4031
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/27/93  6:40p
Subj: OS/2 CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 08-26-1993, BORIS OSADCIW expounded to all that would listen,
certain words of wisdom concerning OS/2 CD...

BO> Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the
BO>  rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom
BO>  line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65.

Isn't the rebate only for registered users of 2.0?

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From: DANIEL HAGAN                           Number: 4032
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/27/93  5:34p
Subj: New Echo - Multimedia                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > There is enough interest to get it qualified for backbone status.
 > BTW, vendors are also welcome!..After echo will get going, I will
 > give up the moderator status to another individual who may have more
 > time. TTYL

Please let us know when it hits the backbone Ismail....thanks.

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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 4033
  To: BRIAN BOONE                              Date: 08/27/93  4:49p
Subj: cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (26 Aug 93) Brian Boone wrote to All...

 BB> I am looking for a good cd-rom pacage for aroun $500 dollars if anyone
 BB> knows where i could get one (other than computer shopper) please leave
 BB> me some mail.
 BB> 

We carry several good CD-Rom packages, it really depends on what
you want to do. If you give me an idea, I can make some
recommedations. 

Paul Sedillo
The Storage Specialists

Orders Only
1.800.224.5150

Current Price List
1.303.940.1012
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From: PAT RILEY                              Number: 4034
  To: ARIENE CHANG                             Date: 08/26/93  5:56p
Subj: Multimedia Items For Sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I'm interested in buying a cd-rom and I was wondering where or if I c
-> reach you for a possible purchase of a cd-rom.  In what currency are
-> selling your cd-rom...Canadian?  Can you also tell me some more speci
-> about it thanks.
->
->
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->
I can be reached most week days at 618-692-1652.
Currency is US.
What type of drive are you looking for?
I have them from $189.00 to $600.00 +
Tell me what you want to do with it.

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From: JOHN WALDEN                            Number: 4035
  To: DAVID BURKE                              Date: 08/27/93  3:09p
Subj: 82% Match                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I don't understand.  What do you mean?  Please explain.


John

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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 4036
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/27/93  6:46a
Subj: Aviation CD                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Does anybody sell a CD dedicated to Aviation stuff?  I run an aviatio
-> oriented BBS and would like something like this for my collection.
 HP> There is one called the 'aircraft encyclopedia' advertised juast about
 HP> anywhere....
 HP> I am an aviation nut myself! What's you BBS number?

I'm looking for something I can put on my BBS for download.  I don't think
aircraft encylcopedia fits the bill.  BBS # is 317-583-0732.


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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 4037
  To: KEN TULLY                                Date: 08/27/93  5:53a
Subj: Busty Babes v1.0r                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++I
WILL GO $ 260.00
YOU CAN FAX ME AT 1-602-292-0497 FOR MY ADDRESS AND MORE INFO

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From: MARIO BONELLI                          Number: 4038
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/27/93 11:36p
Subj: Toshiba 3101 Repairs                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for anyone who repairs Toshiba 3101 CDROm drives, please get back
to me as soon as possible.

Mario Bonelli - Ask Me About The Newly Forming AMIGA_HAM Echo - FREQ US!
*** CNET 2.63
... A child of 5 could understand this!  Fetch me a child of 5.
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From: MARK WATERS                            Number: 4039
  To: KEN TULLY                                Date: 08/26/93  7:23p
Subj: Busty Babes v1.0                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  Your getting closer...  Now move the DECIMAL point to the right a li
-> we can talk.  There are not many V1.0 BB available, and I think even
-> autographed by Lee and Blaine.  I have been offered $250 so far, so i
-> is interested, I will be selling it off very soon.  You can reach me
-> 203-387-3174.

I have BB Volume 1, but how do you know if it's one of the first copies
made?  Is there some special writing on the disc or casing somewhere?

Thanks!
Mark


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From: GLEN MCALLISTER                        Number: 4040
  To: JEFF KAPLOW                              Date: 08/26/93 11:54a
Subj: CDrom                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hay Jeff,
        Your CD is not online.  I tried to go into a file section that is on
your CD and got the message "that area does'nt exist!".
                                                        -=Glen=-

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4041
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93  8:52p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have one copy of Busty Babes Version 1.0.  Anyone interested in 
bidding on it, please call or write.  Serious offers starting at $250 
only please.  Thank you! 
 
Computer Works 
Rt 3 Box 794-B                                          Jim... 
Ashford, AL 36312 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4042
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 08/28/93 12:00a
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > PR>What's up I thought this CD was selling like hot cakes? I sill have one
 > and
 > PR>would like to sell it. So anyone that is interested give me a call at
 > PR>512-939-9822 before the price of this CD goes up to high to buy!

 >    So what is the price?
The price that is on it as of today is $175.00, give me a call if you are
interrested. Can't say the price won't go up as I am starting to get bids
again.
                     Thanks Pat

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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 4043
  To: DAN CONLEY                               Date: 08/26/93 12:23p
Subj: Credit Card Charges                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I thought I'd let everyboby know that credit card surcharges are
-> illegal. I purchased a complete system from a VERY WELL KNOWN company


Dan, a correction to your note. Surcharges are NOT 
illegal. They do violate most credit card merchant agreements. There is 
a big difference between being against the law and violating a contract 
between two individuals or corporations.


Most merchants get away with a surcharge simply because their customers 
do not know that it is a violation of their credit card contracts. Glad 
you got your refund.

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From: MARC ABRETTI                           Number: 4044
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/27/93  1:28a
Subj: Pagemaker 5.0                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WRONG...TRY THE COMPUTER SHOPER MAGAZINE, FOR PRICE LISTINGS

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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4045
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/28/93  2:26a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>I have just finished making our new CD-Rom catalog.  We have many new
JL>products and have reduced the price on a lot of the others.  If you
JL>would like a copy of this catalog, please log on and download
JL>catalog.zip.  It lists all of our titles with prices and descriptions.
JL>If you are looking for a shareware CD-Rom, be sure to check file area
JL>#15 for the file list.  Downloads permitted on the first call.  Thanks!
JL>
JL>Computer Works                                  Jim...
JL>CD-Rom Sales!
JL>(205) 793-4481 Voice
JL>(205) 671-0092 BBS 14.4k        Online Credit Card & COD Orders
JL>
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Anyway to get this catalog w/o having to make a long distance call? :)
Thanks!

                                    -Jason

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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4046
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/28/93  2:35a
Subj: CD-ROMs Wanted                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi. If anyone has any info on where I could find the following titles
I'd be VERY appreciative. If possible, please include prices. THANKS!

  * Magazine Rack (or any magazine library) - the most recent one
Please.
  * "Countries of the World" by Bureau Development, Inc. - Again, teh
most recent edition please.
  * "U.S. History" also by BD, Inc.
  * "TIME Magazine Almanac"

Basically, I'm looking for an assortment of reference disc's so if you
have a title that you think is good, please reply with a description and
price & where I can find it. THANKS A LOT!!!

                               -Jason

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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4047
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/28/93  2:38a
Subj: PC-SIG                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Has anyone had any experience with the PC-SIG company? They've sent me 2
fliers within the last coupla monthes that sound like good deals. One is
for "New Windows CD-ROM: only $19.95" and the other is for "New Games
CD-ROM **$19.95**"  If anyone's dealt with them before, please let me
know what your experiences have been. BTW, their address is 1030D East
Duane Avenue; Sunnycale, CA 94086 and I know that's legit because I've
verified it through another CD w/ bussiness directories on it.

Thanks a lot for the help!

                               -Jason

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 4048
  To: SAL PEDONE                               Date: 08/28/93  4:27a
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the offer, but Comptons Ency. is 49.00 new including shipping
if I buy it here... if you will go less, let me know.


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4049
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 08/27/93 11:17p
Subj: CD-ROM MASTER LIST 1/2                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DS>Hi there Mike,  how about being a cool guy and selling me 7th Guest for $39?

It's yours Darren.  All I need is some card info and a place to send it.
Give me a call and we can fix you up.

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4050
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/27/93 11:17p
Subj: BRAND NEW CD'S IN STOCK!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 n e w * n e w * THE NEW CD'S KEEP POURIN' IN AT STARVECTOR! * n e w * n e
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 5-STAR PREMIUM WINDOWS - Latest Windows shareware + 950 OS2 files!.....$27
 AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK 93/94 - New release. 11,000,000 businesses.$39
 AMINET AMIGA - New from Walnut Creek. Lots of current Amiga shareware..$15
 ARIZONA IMAGES - Fabulous photos of the Arizona desert country.........$30
 CANADIAN SHAREWARE - 6500+ shareware programs ready to run from the CD.$22
 COLOR MAGIC CLIPART - 600 megs. of 3-D color clipart.  Royalty-free....$27
 FIREARMS REFERENCE - Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$30
 GAMEWARE COLLECTION - Over 6000 of the all time best games! BBS-ready..$24
 GIGA GAMES - Brand new from Walnut Creek. Set up for 6 popular BBS's...$26
 HAMWARE 93 - The Ham's #1 source for Ham software......................$28
 KING'S QUEST VI - Newest in the KQ series. Better than 7th Guest!......$47
 MAC MULTIMEDIA SPACE - A multimedia space encyclopedia. (Mac only).....$39
 MAC SHAREWARE - Loads of innovative new Macintosh shareware programs...$24
 MICROSOFT GOLF - Multimedia Golf game that is "on par with reality"....$58
 PHONEDISC USA - Summer '93 edition w/ 80 million residential listings..$69
 PINACOTHECA M/M - Multimedia presentation of classical paintings.......$24
 PRECISION MAPPING 1.5b - Newest release! Detailed street-level map.....$79
 REEL CLIPS - 600mb of royalty-free digital video clips.................$44
 SHAREWARE EXPLORER - New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$59

                    Adult Titles (must state age 21+)
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 AMATEUR MODELS - All original images of young models. BBS-ready........$35
 DIRTY TALK - Full-color, full-motion video w/ adult film stars.........$59
 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2 - Sequel to release 1 with fresh, new images.......$36
 KAMA SUTRA - Indian documentary adult film w/ narration................$59
 LUSCIOUS LADIES - Hot new adult .GIF CD with outstanding cover art.....$37
 MYSTIQUE OF THE ORIENT - 600mb movie featuring Oriental beauties.......$59
 SEYMORE BUTTS INTERACTIVE - Fantastic new "interactive" adult film.....$49
 SOUTHERN BEAUTIES - Gorgeous photos of beautiful southern women........$30
 TOTAL FANTASY - Newly released .GIF disc from Denmark..................$33

 Special Offer #1:  Buy any 5 titles above and deduct 5%
 Special Offer #2:  600mb shareware CD or Windows/OS2 CD only $6 w/ any CD!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4051
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/27/93 11:17p
Subj: 7TH GUEST NOW $39!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 *************************************************************************
                          7TH GUEST SPECIAL OFFER!
 *************************************************************************

       PRICE:  $39!!        In stock, ready for immediate delivery.

 MINIMUM Requirements:  2 Megs RAM * 386DX CPU * 16 bit SVGA video card
 with at least 512K RAM * CD-ROM Drive w/ 150K per second minimum transfer
 rate * Sound card w/ FM and PCM sound * Mouse * Hard drive w/ 10 Megs free
 MSCDEX 2.2 or higher * DOS 5.0

 RECOMMENDED Hardware:  486sx 20mhz or faster CPU * 4 Megs RAM * Fast
 16 bit SVGA video card w/ 1 Meg RAM or local bus video * CD-ROM drive w/
 300k per second transfer rate and less than 300 ms access time * Roland
 LAPC-1, MT-32, or Sound Canvas and 16 bit PCM Sound Card

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
       "This is the new standard in multimedia entertainment.  This
        is the future."       - Bill Gates, Chairman Microsoft Corp.
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: DAVID BURKE                            Number: 4052
  To: JOHN WALDEN                              Date: 08/28/93  2:40p
Subj: 82% Match                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I don't understand.  What do you mean?  Please explain.

   From your quote I can't help you... I have never posted anything
about 82%. All my recent post were on NO Adult stuff unless it is in
the... Adult Only CDROM Echo... and I would like a SOFTWARE Only CDROM
Echo... and HARDWARE Only CDROM Echo...

                                                     -=- Dave


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From: GENE HAM                               Number: 4053
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 08/27/93 12:08p
Subj: RED HOT SPECIALS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > ... If Clinton didn't inhale, why is he brain-dead?

Lack of OXYGEN..........



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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 4054
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/28/93 11:29a
Subj: Jem Disk CD-Rom Trade In Sale           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you have some unwanted CD-Rom discs that are just lying around collecting
dust?  If you do, why not take advantage of this great deal from Jewel
Distributing?

Send us your old CD-Rom (in good condition) and $14.95 and we'll send you Jem
Disc I shareware CD-Rom collection.  Jem Disc was printed last fall and
contains many timeless files.  Due to it's super selection of BBS related
files, it's a must for all sysops!  Integration with bbs software is EZ!

There's hundreds of games, swimsuit GIFs, communication files, programming
files and much much more.  You won't be disappointed!

The current price without trade in is $19.95 plus S/H so this deal represents
a savings of $10.  HURRY - offer ends 9/15/93!

For more information FREQ from 1:203/49 -

JEMTRADE - for the trade in special order form (5k)
JEMDISC  - regular order form for those without something to trade (5k)
JEMFILES - complete FILES.BBS file listings (250k)

Or call my BBS at (916)921-9949 and download these files from my logon matrix
(enter JEM at the Dos prompt) - I have a v.32bis modem online.

Thanks!

Michael Crosson


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From: MARK SPARLING                          Number: 4055
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/27/93  1:22p
Subj: Toshiba 3401 wanted                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking to buy a new or used Toshiba 3401 internal CD-Rom,
cables, screws, rails.
Also, a PAS 16 as my controller.
I have found the 3401 new for $399 in Computer Shopper,
and the PAS 16 for $150.

I will need some discs too, and welcome suggestions.
An encyclopedia, an adult disc or two, a home library, Kings Quest VI,
7th guest.

Maybe some Altec Lansing speakers too.

Leave me mail here.

Mark Sparling




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From: JESSE SCHMELZER                        Number: 4056
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/28/93  2:15a
Subj: Re: Busty babes #1                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message on <23-Aug-93 22:36:00> Pat Rickerson (1:160/9) wrote:

 PR> What's up I thought this CD was selling like hot cakes? I sill have
 PR> one and would like to sell it. So anyone that is interested give me a
 PR> call at 512-939-9822 before the price of this CD goes up to high to
 PR> buy!
 PR>          Also will trade for CD player, CD's, tape backup, or mother
 PR> board (at lest a 40dx). Also in need of some simms. Call and lets make
 PR> a deal!
 PR>                                   Pat

 PR> --- FastEcho 1.25
 PR>  * Origin: Thin Ice - Your traveling on very Thin Ice (1:160/9)

I'll take it. what kind of cd player you looking for??


 Jesse

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From: JESSE SCHMELZER                        Number: 4057
  To: DAVID ROBERTS                            Date: 08/28/93  2:17a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes 1.0                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message on <23-Aug-93 19:25:53> David Roberts (1:345/23) wrote:


 LN>> No problem, Jim...the label film on the disc says, "Graphic Software"
 LN>> 
 >> --Dealers now have bids for $350.00 per each 1.0 disc-- Versions 2.0
 >> and 3.0 do not have these large font words on the disc film --If you
 >> have one of these, hold onto it-- 

 DR> I read this message you had left Lee and am just wondering why is this
 DR> disk so valuable, I paid $25 for it 6 months ago.

 DR> ... "With the lights out, it's less dang'rous" ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
 DR> --- Renegade v07-17 Beta
 DR>  * Origin: The Homeboy Shopping Network - 808-624-1294 (1:345/23)

you want to sell it i'll give you 50.00 for it.

 Jesse

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4058
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 08/28/93  9:27p
Subj: Busty Babes v1.0r                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > +++++++++++++++++++++++++
 > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++I
 > WILL GO $ 260.00
 > YOU CAN FAX ME AT 1-602-292-0497 FOR MY ADDRESS AND
 > MORE INFO
Also have one if you know anyone needsa one starting price is $225.00. They can
reach me at 512-939-9822
                                Pat, Thanks for your help

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From: DANIEL HAGAN                           Number: 4059
  To: TYRONE THOMASON                          Date: 08/28/93 10:26a
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Hey .\\ike, I was charged $88 for Precision Mapping, what gives?  I
 > also
 > notice NightOwl 9.0 is going for $25 and I was charged $28.  Could
 > you
 > send me two CD Caddies and we call it even?

You've been ripped off, rush down and call the BBB right away <G>.

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4060
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/27/93  5:39p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >Thats alright but if you know any one wants one give them my number 
  >512-939-9822, Thanks! 
 
Sure thing.  It's funny how these things work.  I just got a copy of 
Erotic Encounters 2, which is supposed to be banned in the USA.  I'll 
bet millions of them will sell! <G> 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4061
  To: DAVID HEYDRICK                           Date: 08/27/93  8:48p
Subj: Special Interest                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a couple different titles you may be interested in.  Give me a 
call and we can discuss the details.  Both titles sell for $39 each. 
 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales!                                           Jim... 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4062
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/28/93  3:34p
Subj: SOUTHERN BEAUTIES                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike: 
  
Thanks for the CD. Blaine had already sent one directly to me so I'm 
returning yours unopened.  Along these lines, please be sure and let me 
know what you think of the ideas in my letter. 
  
Ciao! 
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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 4063
  To: J. ALLEN                                 Date: 08/28/93  9:47p
Subj: Still available                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On <22 Aug, 10:41>, J. Allen wrote to All :

JA> I have the following CD-ROM disks for sale or possible swaps.  All disks
JA> DO NOT RESPOND IN THIS ECHO!!  Direct E-mail offers to 1:2201/13
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    This is the CDROM_SALE, I *WILL* reply here.  If you do not want offers in
this echo, then DO NOT POST in this echo.  Now, on to business.

JA>  5.00   MEDLINE                 Medline Database
JA>  5.00   LAW LIBRARY             Social Law Library

    Tell me a little more about these disks and you may have a sale.

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From: ROB JANSEN                             Number: 4064
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/28/93  5:58p
Subj: 386DX20 w/8mb Motherboard for Sale      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a motherboard for sale. A full size, 386dx 20mhz with 8mb of DRAM
(4 mb of 80ns and 4mb of 70ns). Asking $425


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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 4065
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 08/27/93  3:25p
Subj: WIERD SCIENCE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>member of Thom's fan club,
>would set up their disks so you have to use XARC?

 BF> Outside of his ARC fixtation, Tony's not a a bad guy - 
 BF> come to the One BBS Con
 BF> and you can discuss the whole thing with him in person....

     No way Jose.....I got my dose for the decade of Phil Becker when we put on
FidoCon 89' a while back. I was thinking about it a few months back but theres
too much on the schedule. Yes, I understand Tony's a nice guy (his use of XARC
on the Magnum disks notwithstanding) and I hope he sells a zillion disks, buys
Jack another bottle of champagne and makes enough to pay his legal bills, buy a
new system and move into a state not stuck in the dark ages.
     DCK


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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 4066
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/28/93  8:21p
Subj: Apple Sevice Info CD                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

** Surplus Apple Service Info CD-ROM (January 1993 Edition) $18 Delivered! **

     This disc contains over 75mb of valuble information on servicing Apple
products including all CPU's (128's to Powerbooks), Monitors, Printers, net-
work products and more in hypercard format. Included are exploded views,
disasembly/diagnostic/adjustment procedures, service bulletins, safety tips,
movies, wiring diagrams....a wealth of information. If you've got a Mac and
CDROM (or access to one) this disc can be a great resource and save you $$$.
This is the disc Apple sends it's dealers...Now you can have it too!

** Send SASE for our new brochure or $18 to order (Check or Money order) **

  Sonoma Online, P.O. Box 7518, Santa Rosa, CA 95407 (707.545.7533 Voice)

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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 4067
  To: EVERYBODY                                Date: 08/28/93  9:48p
Subj: -=- CD-Rom Drive Specials -=-           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
=-=                      The Storage Specialists                      =-=
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=       =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
=-=   CD ROM DRIVE SPECIALS   =-=       =-= Order Line 1.800.224.5150 =-=
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=       =-= 365 Days A Year           =-=
=-= Toshiba XM-3401           =-=       =-= 24 Hours A Day            =-=
=-= External           585.00 =-=       =-=                           =-=
=-= Internal           485.00 =-=       =-= Tech Support/Price List   =-=
=-= Access Time         200MS =-=       =-= Mon-Sat 9:00am-5:30pm     =-=
=-=                           =-=       =-= 303.940.1012              =-=
=-= Teac CD-50                =-=       =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
=-= External           465.00 =-=
=-= Internal           395.00 =-=       =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
=-= Access Time         270MS =-=       =-= TERMS:                    =-=
=-=                           =-=       =-= Visa/MasterCard           =-=
=-= Mitsumi                   =-=       =-= No Credit Card Srvc. Chrg =-=
=-= Internal           189.00 =-=       =-= Personal/Company Checks   =-=
=-= Access Time         350MS =-=       =-= Cashiers Check            =-=
=-=                           =-=       =-= Money Orders              =-=
=-= CRI-1100AT                =-=       =-= C.O.D. (add $5.00)        =-=
=-= External           275.00 =-=       =-= SHIPPING:                 =-=
=-= Access Time         290MS =-=       =-= Same day shipping on all  =-=
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=       =-= credit card orders rcvd   =-=
                                        =-= by 1:30pm MST.            =-=
                                        =-= Minimum Shipping Charge   =-=
                                        =-= $8.25                     =-=
                                        =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 4068
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/28/93  9:16p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BR> With the exception of a few, any disc that presently is allowed
 BR> to be used on BBSs, probably violates copyrights and perhaps
 BR> should not be put on a BBS.  You may feel that distributing
 BR> copyrighted material, for which royalties are not paid, is
 BR> acceptable.

Just because something is copyrighted doesn't allways imply there is a royalty
due.  After all I can write a program with a copyrighted extender and
distribute it royalty free in most cases.  Given that at the moment most casual
computer users don't have a CDROM of their own, and that sysops don't have time
to look at pictures it seems that a large part of the market is excluded by not
allowing BBS use.  But hey it's up to you and you have every right to do
whatever you wish with your products even if it limits your market.


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From: MOHIT GOYAL                            Number: 4069
  To: ALAN WILLIAMS                            Date: 08/28/93 11:47p
Subj: CD-ROM PROGRAM WANTED                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AW>Anyone selling "Shadow President" on CD-ROM?

When did this come out?  How does it differ from the floppy version?

Thanks!
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From: MOHIT GOYAL                            Number: 4070
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/28/93 11:47p
Subj: OS/2 CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>==================== OS2 ON CD For Only $65.00 ? ====================
  >                              IN STOCK
  > Until Septemeber 14, 1993 you can purchase the complete OS/2 v2.21
  > package, which offer's you the installation disks, cd, manuals and
  > other special discounts for only $65.00!
  > Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the
  > rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom
  > line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65.
BO>    Call NOW and get your copy today! ORDER LINE ONLY 800-243-0517

That's real nice of you, considering that IBM is selling it direct for
$89! 

Most place are charging between $70-$85 dollars for the cdrom upgrade.

$95 is a fair price for the floppy upgrade though.
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From: B.A. CROWELL                           Number: 4071
  To: AL BECK                                  Date: 08/28/93  7:46p
Subj: Echomail                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

May I please have access high enough to leave messages?  (Or at least could
you turn on the flag?  :-)
                                        Bruce

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From: CHRIS JOHNSON                          Number: 4072
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/28/93  9:25a
Subj: 7TH GUEST ONLY $39!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS> CJ>                "Kings Quest VI is not just EXELENT, its a LANDMARK
MS> CJ>                GAME."
MS> CJ>                        Just to add.. the price for this is
MS> CJ>                        APPROX 70.00.
MS> CJ>                I recomend that you team up with Sierra and get this
MS> CJ>                on your price list.  maybe even at discounted prices..
MS> CJ>                this game is well... FAR Beyond 7th Guest.. even though
MS> CJ>                I would recomend it..  anyways... see if you can get
MS> CJ>                KINGS QUEST VI CD ROM VER.  It'll sell SO fast.. I'll
MS> CJ>                PROMISE you that..

MS> Well Chris, we have the King's Quest VI's in stock and
MS> selling now
MS> at $47 if you're interested.  If you don't have one yet,
MS> talk to me!

MS> Later,
MS> .\\ike

MS>  STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 *
MS> 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
MS>  VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs /
MS> $.50 ea pc over 5

MS> ---
MS>  * SLMR 2.1a * Tagline thievery . . . On the next Geraldo!

MS> --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
MS>  * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat
MS> DOOR (1:3407/101)
Hmmm.. really?.. sorry about my "QUOTE RAMPAGE"  I wan't myself on
that day..  hmmm... how are KQ6's selling?
        
        
        
        Chris Johnson
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From: MIKE KIRKPATRICK                       Number: 4073
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/28/93 10:07p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

That CD-Rom is Already available To Purchase.

Mike


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From: RICHARD CAVIN                          Number: 4074
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/28/93 11:04p
Subj: Re: Disks for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>   ** Day of The Tenticle.............. 35.00
>
>   ** Indiana Jones and Fate of Atlantis.......... 25.00
>   ** The Animals of the San Diego Zoo............ 25.00

Todd, are you interested in trading for Super Nintendo games and/or Sega
Genensis games. I've got several of each that i've finished and am interested
in all three of the above CDs.

Thanks,
Richard  
 
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From: MIKE WAVRECAN                          Number: 4075
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/28/93 11:21p
Subj: Looking for CD ROM!?*                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello I'm looking for a CHEAP cdrom that will work with cd's<G> if you know
someone who has one or if you have one write back and I'll give you my phone
number also tell where your from and tell the price and if you want games or
anything else ask me I'll try to be of accistance OK like seeya then ok so like
for sure dude!BYE:-)


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4076
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93 12:46a
Subj: OS/2                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

==================== OS2 ON CD For Only $65.00 ? ====================
                              IN STOCK
 Until Septemeber 14, 1993 you can purchase the complete OS/2 v2.21
 package, which offer's you the installation disks, cd, manuals and
 other special discounts for only $65.00!
 Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the
 rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom
 line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65.

    Call NOW and get your copy today! ORDER LINE ONLY 800-243-0517



Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4077
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93 12:46a
Subj: RED HOT                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$
 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
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CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO

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From: MARC GRANCOIN                          Number: 4078
  To: DAVID MCSPADDEN                          Date: 08/23/93 11:48p
Subj: To France                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello David!

15 Jul 93, David Mcspadden writes to Kevin Lam:


 DM>    CD-WORLD ships to Canada Air Mail for $4.00. This will cover up to 5
 DM> cd's.

And how much for France, please ?

Bye
Marc

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From: MARC GRANCOIN                          Number: 4079
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/25/93 12:09a
Subj: Some GREAT CDROM Prices                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Doug!

30 Jun 93, Doug Carpenter writes to All :

 DC> ******* PCJ Computing - Partial CDROM List - 6/30 - Continued **********

 DC> *************************************
 DC> ** We meet all legit / noncloseout **
 DC> ** prices in this echo. No hidden  **
 DC> ** charges for credit cards. Call  **
 DC> **for Adult Titles. Ship Worldwide **
 DC> *************************************

Could you give me shipping prices for France, please ?

Bye
Marc

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From: YVES CHARIER                           Number: 4080
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/25/93  1:33a
Subj: Thanks for your reply                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Mike,

I found your reply in my mail yesterday morning: thanks!

I'm going to fax you my order for National Geographics Mammals CD-ROM
by the end of this week :-)

Regards,
- Yves
(from Paris XIIth, France)

... Wolves are back in France!

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From: PATRICK MCHUGH                         Number: 4081
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  3:32a
Subj: Just grandma and me                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Just Grandma and Me CD ............... Best Offer

Patrick
(602) 944-6234
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From: VICTOR EMOND                           Number: 4082
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/29/93  8:26a
Subj: Re: 6 Cdrom Changer                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Being that you sell the Pioneer 6CD changer could you give a price on
the DMR600 and the DMR604X. I'm looking to buy either one. Also do you
do COD's or credit cards.

thanks.

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From: VICTOR EMOND                           Number: 4083
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  8:44a
Subj: Pioneer 6cd wanted                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for a Pioneer DMR600 or DMR604x 6 CD changer, at best
possible price. Cash available now.
Please reply here or call me voice at 702-385-5202.

thanks.

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From: MIKE FURST                             Number: 4084
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/29/93 10:31a
Subj: Thanks!                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike,
 I received my order for Compton's Interactive Encyclopdia within
2 days of placing the order! Just wanted to say thanks for your speed on
your orders.
                                          Thanks Again,
                                               -- Mike

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From: BRIAN BOONE                            Number: 4085
  To: PAUL SADILLO                             Date: 08/29/93 11:52a
Subj: cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

well, i just wanted it to play alot of the games on mostely and for
like the encyclopedia and some helpful stuff like that.  I wanted it
with a 16 bit sound card, interface, and acouple of cd's if possible.


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From: KEN TULLY                              Number: 4086
  To: RICK SHOAF                               Date: 08/28/93 10:15a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes V1.0                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 KT>  Your getting closer...  Now move the DECIMAL point to the
 KT>  right a little and we can talk.  There are not many V1.0 BB
 KT>  available, and I think even fewer autographed by Lee and
 KT>  Blaine.  I have been offered $250 so far, so if anyone is
 KT>  interested, I will be selling it off very soon.  You can reach
 KT>  me at 203-387-3174.

 RS> Why is this disk so valuable? How can I tell if my disk is a V1.0?
 RS> I believe that mine says something about being release 1.0 on the inside
 RS> clear plastic.


The original copy has the BAMBAM Logo on it, and the disk contains material
that was not put on subsiquent editions.  It is a VERY special disk.  Anyone
interested will have to reply to me here before the 1st of Sept.


                                        Ken...

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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 4087
  To: EVERYBODY                                Date: 08/29/93 10:07a
Subj: -=- Monthly Catalog -=-                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: TIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 4088
  To: JIM SCHOOLER                             Date: 08/29/93  7:20a
Subj: Related ?                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JS> Related ?

 JS> Jim Schooler
 JS> 1:102/910

Sent you netmail Jim, did you get it ?

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From: DOUG SNELL                             Number: 4089
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/29/93  9:00a
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I have one copy of Busty Babes Version 1.0.  Anyone
 > interested in
 > bidding on it, please call or write.  Serious offers
 > starting at $250
 > only please.  Thank you!
What make BB #1 so valuable?

                    Doug

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 4090
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 08/28/93  6:32a
Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> No, and there apparently are no plans to do so for the indefinite fut
That's funny, I was at a fair a couple days ago at a Britanica both, and
they had it on CD-ROM there.

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 4091
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 08/28/93  6:37a
Subj: Seventh Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> INTERESTED LEAVE A MESAGE HERE OR CALL ME AT 512-275-3273. INTERESTED
-> IN AN ENCLYPODIA(EXCUSE MY SPELLING) OR POSSIBLY OTHER GAMES. NOT
Got any Sierra CD's?

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4092
  To: JESSE SCHMELZER                          Date: 08/29/93  4:12p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I'll take it. what kind of cd player you looking for??


I want a CD rom drive for a computer! If thats what you have give me a call at
512-939-9822
                     PAt

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From: MARK LONG                              Number: 4093
  To: STEVE KISER                              Date: 08/23/93  7:40p
Subj: Re: Pro-Phone 93 Crosspost              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Steve Kiser to All <=-

 SK> =====================================================================
 SK> * Forwarded by Chris Gunn (1:202/1008)
 SK> * Area : ENTREPRENEUR (FidoNet - Entrepreneur Conference)
 SK> * From : Don Bosman, 1:159/950 (10 Aug 93 16:17)
 SK> * To   : All
 SK> * Subj : ProPhone 93 ... not good
 SK> =====================================================================
 SK> I just bought a copy of ProPhone 93 CD-ROM and would like to warn
 SK> others off this blatantly misleading product.

Thanks for the warning.  I was going to get it but I cant see how it could 
do what it advertises.  The company I work for uses the commercial NYNEX
disk system.  But its just for the east coast.  However, its based on the
cdroms that are the size of video laser disks.  Its accurate but expensive.


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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4094
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93 11:37a
Subj: Toshiba Q's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm considering purchase of a Toshiba 3401 (internal) CD ROM drive and
have some questions. Anyone with answers or comments, please jump in!

?    What's a good adapter for use with this drive? What's the
     difference between the 8-bit and 16-bit controllers?

?    What additional cables, mounting kit, etc. will be required to
     hook the drive up to the controller and to my SoundBlaster 16
     (for audio)? I (will) have an available 5.25" slot in tower
     case - Gateway 2000 486/33 system. Any known problems with the
     Toshiba and this computer?

?    What's a good price for the drive?  For the controller?

?    Any recommendations on a good dealer for purchase of same? Do
     they possibly take used equipment in trade (otherwise, I gotta
     sell a couple of items before I can get the drive)?

If you are a dealer, please leave price, etc. info if this is an
appropriate conference. Or you can call me at 913-888-5201 ext.257
(8a-4p central, or leave voice mail). I need a package with the items
listed above and a couple of disk caddies. No software required (I
already have a CD ROM drive I'll be selling if I decide to get the
new one). Thanks for the info!

-hk
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4095
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/27/93 11:35a
Subj: Package....                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

received. Thanks.  My home phone number is (713) 488-0065. Machine  answers
after four rings. Watch for my post next week. 
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: MARTIN YEE                             Number: 4096
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 08/29/93 12:24a
Subj: Seventh guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MRH>GOT A COPY OF THE SEVENTH GUEST FOR TRADE. Hi Mike,
   Does your copy come with the bonus VHS tape? If yes, interest you in
   a trade for one of the following:
   CDROM
   Just Grandma & Me (w/storybook)
   Complete with all original packing & warranty card.

   DISK
   XWING
   Star Control ][
   Task Force 1942
   Willy Beamish
   Ambush at Sorinor
   Laser Squad

   All disk games are complete with original disks, docs, & box.

Martin Yee ph: 415 923-9893

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From: BOB BRODOVSKY                          Number: 4097
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/29/93  8:18a
Subj: CDs' Good Deal                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike, 
Just wanted to say thanks for the great deal on the CD-ROM titles I 
ordered from you. They arrived 3 days after I ordered them and they are 
just fine. I usually am very leary of mail order but I won't hesitate to 
order more software from you when I need it. 
 
Thanks again, 
 
Bob  
 
 
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From: DAVID NGHIEM                           Number: 4098
  To: TONY MILES                               Date: 08/29/93  1:51a
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DN> 101 GL, DL movies
DN> No descriptions
DN> Not wife-proof
DN> Published in February 93

I am wondering.  WHat does "wife-proof" mean in an adult-cd-rom?  I have
seen that before in ads.


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From: JASON SAUVE                            Number: 4099
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  1:42p
Subj: CD's 4 S A L E                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
CD-ROM COMMERCIAL SOFTWARE:
Title                                    Disk Sizes  Gfx    Price (CDN)
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
CorelDraw 3.0 For Windows                *CD-ROM*    SVGA      $150
  SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
    -  IBM compatible 386s, 486s, and PS/2s
       286s require Windows in protected mode with minimum 4 megs RAM
    -  Windows 3.1 required for True Type fonts
    -  Windows 3.0 font support provided by Adobe Type Manager (not included)
    -  Hard Drive
    -  VGA Windows supported monitor
    -  Mouse or tablet
  INCLUDES
    -  CorelDRAW                -  CorelPHOTO-PAINT
    -  CorelCHART               -  CorelSHOW
    -  CorelMOSAIC              -  CorelTRACE
  CONDITION
    -  Includes everything except the registration card
 
 
European Racers                          *CD-ROM*    SVGA      $ 55
  CONDITION
    -  Includes ALL ORIGINAL documents including registration card
    -  Includes model (Porsche 911 slant nose) in it's original package
       Model requires assembly
    -  Used ONLY twice
  PC SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
    -  386 SX or greater                  -  4 MB RAM or greater
    -  SVGA graphics                      -  CD-ROM drive
    -  DOS 5.0 or greater                 -  Soundblaster card
    -  Speakers or headphones             -  Mouse (joystick optional)
    -  13 MB Hard Drive
  DESCRIPTION
    -  State-of-the-art, interactive 3-D instructions for building your own
       Porsche, Bugatti, Lamborghini and Nazca models - four of Europe's
       hottest racing machines!
    -  The plastic modem kit for the super hot, super fast Porsche 911 slant
       nose.
    -  High-tech, motion picture video tips that show you how to paint, glue
       and finish your model like a pro.
    -  Building your car is only half the fun - climb behind the wheel and
       enter an action-packed, 3D driving simulation game guarenteed to keep
       you on the edge of your seat every time you play.
    -  Experience the real life, high-speed handling of each super-charged car
       and the incredible realism of 3-D graphics.
    -  Test your stuff against on-screen competitors on four European roads &
       race tracks.
    -  But, watch out for speed traps! The police are waiting to catch you on
       your way to the track.
    -  Cruise over the track-even over buildings - with European Racers copter
       cam.
    -  Throughout the game, listen, learn or receive your punishment from the
       motion picture video policeman, gas station attendant, sportscaster,
       pit crew attendant, custodian, and beauty queen.
    -  Got a feel for the car? How improve your performance by customizing
       your race car to match the randomly changing weather, the track layout,
       and the competition.
 
 
 ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
 ³ --  100% of all software contains original box, disks, manuals & other   ³
 ³     documents unless stated otherwise.                                   ³
 ³ --  100% of the executable programs are NOT DEFECTIVE.                   ³
 ³ --  NO guarentees/refunds under any circumstances.                       ³
 ³                                                                          ³
 ³ All Prices include sales taxes.                                          ³
 ³ S & H Approx. $5 in CAN / $7 out of CAN not included in the above prices.³
 ³ Money orders and cheques are accepted.                                   ³
 ³ Cheques will take approx 3 days longer to process and clear.             ³
 ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ
 
*****************************************************************************
 
For more information, if you are interested in purchasing a product leave
me mail via any board in 519 area code on any of the "For Sale" nets
specifically in the Windsor / Essex County districts with your phone number
included to Jason Sauve, or contact me at (519) 978-3553 ...

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From: CLIFF RUMMENIE                         Number: 4100
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/24/93  5:07p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM MASTER LIST 1/2 2/2          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike

        I'm interested in a good Clipart CD of non-shareware stuff
        - have Goliath Shareware disc, have access to Key 
        ClipMaster Pro ... what have you got?

... Mediocrity thrives on standardization.
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From: CLIFF RUMMENIE                         Number: 4101
  To: ALBERT AFONSO                            Date: 08/24/93  5:11p
Subj: Re: MM Encyclopedia                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Albert Afonso to All <=-

 AA> heard that Comptons MM Encyclopedia is pretty good.

        Well ... I have the 1990 Grolier .. not really up to date,
        and the 91 Comptons ... the Grolier's has relayed 
        information to me more consistently than the Comptons ..
        maybe the new ones are different.

... The four food groups; instant, concentrated, microwave, & take out.
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4102
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 08/29/93 12:04a
Subj: Thanks                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DR>Thanks for the order bonehead.  (Actually, I'm having problems with my mail
DR>getting out, and picked you to test with).  ;-)

You're coming in loud and clear, Beavis.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4103
  To: DAVE MCEWEN                              Date: 08/29/93 12:04a
Subj: Info Needed                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DM>I am looking for information on CD Disks. I have bought a version of Night 
O
DM>9 and am looking for other CD's of this quality. What I am looking for  is
mo
DM>the shareware Disks. I would also like to find out how often the  Night Owl
DM>disks come out and where I could possibly get a list of prices  and Disks. I
DM>have been told that a Mike Shannon would be the man to speak to about this
bu

Dave,

You were well informed.  8)  We have over 325 titles now in stock at very
decent prices, with new material arriving daily.  If you would like a copy
of our updated catalog, you can freq STARCAT.ZIP from 1:3407/101, or
download it from our BBS @ 509-457-0206.  If there are any questions I
can answer for you, don't hesitate to call our voice line @ 509-457-2892.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4104
  To: SHADOW SMITH                             Date: 08/29/93 12:04a
Subj: Looking for:                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SS>I'm looking for any of the 650MB movies on CD_ROM.  If you any, please
SS>respond to this message.  Thanks!

Shadow,

We carry several.  Here are some examples:

 After Dark Trilogy (New!).....45.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00
 SeXXcapades The Movie.........49.00
 Seymore Butts Interactive.....49.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....39.00
 Mystique of the Orient (Film).59.00
 Nightwatch Interactive........49.00
 Kama Sutra....................59.00
 Hidden Obsessions.............59.00

Let me know if any of these interest you.  All are in stock, ready for
shipment.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4105
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/29/93 12:04a
Subj: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUEAUT                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>Thanks, Mike. If you haven't already done so, you should soon receive a 
lett
BJ>from me re: CDs for evaluation. I'd really appreciate your  thoughts on my
BJ>proposals, either here or by return snail - your choice.

Bob,

Yes, I did receive your letter today, and your proposal sounds quite
agreeable to me.  I will be sending you a couple of new adult titles
every week for review, good or bad!  Just return the ones you don't want.
As for Busty 2.0, I agree that $45 is too high.  I am in the process of
closing a deal now to aquire a large volume of them, which I should be able
to sell at my old price of $33 if you're interested.  I'll keep you posted.

(In reference to your P.S., I've heard similar comments from others, FWIW)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4106
  To: TYRONE THOMASON                          Date: 08/29/93 12:04a
Subj: U.S. Mail                               Refer: NONE
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TT>MS>Yeah, as long as they don't LOSE the darn package, like they've done
TT>MS>with mine several times.  At least with UPS or Fedex you have automatic
TT>MS>insurance coverage.  8)                 ^^^

TT>Not exactly true.  Ask Hi-Q Computers in Atlanta, GA.  UPS somehow
TT>misplaced a computer they are swearing they delivered.  Hi-Q has yet to
TT>receive the insurance reimbursement.  UPS in this state has a habit of
TT>dropping your package and running whether someone is at home or not.  As

That they do, but at least you have a course of action to take in case
a package is lost or stolen.  With U.S. Mail, if a package is lost and
uninsured, you're outta luck.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4107
  To: TYRONE THOMASON                          Date: 08/29/93 12:04a
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TT>MS>King's Quest VI.....$47   Shareware Explorer..$59   Phonedisc
USA.......$6
TT>MS>Soundware Coll'ctn..$27   So Much Shareware 3.$28   Gameware
Collection.$2
TT>MS>Aminet Amiga 1993...$15   5 Star Windows......$27   Electronic
Cookbook.$3
TT>MS>Hobbes OS/2 1993....$16   Hamware 1993........$28   Mac M/M
Space.......$3
TT>MS>Programmers Megapak.$29   Canadian Shareware..$19   Precision
Mapping...$7
TT>                                                      
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^!?
TT>Hey .\\ike, I was charged $88 for Precision Mapping, what gives?  I also
TT>notice NightOwl 9.0 is going for $25 and I was charged $28.  Could you
TT>send me two CD Caddies and we call it even?

Tyrone,

As often happens in this ever-changing industry, the purchase price of
various CD titles changes from week to week according to what the dealers
are paying for them.  In the case of Precision Mapping, we made an
initial bulk purchase when they were brand new, at a given price.  We set
our price of $88 accordingly, based on a percentage markup of what we
paid.  When the stock ran out (of which you got one of the last ones), I
found a different source that gave me a better price, hence the lower
price of $79 which I pass to my customers.  I am finding that it is
quite common for new titles to enter the market high, as was the case with
Night Owl 9 at around $50, and gradually or sometimes quickly depreciate
as time wears on and the title becomes dated.

As for Night Owl 9, for which I charged you $29 (not $28), that is my
normal advertised price.  Nonetheless, I have sold #9 to some of my
customers who have asked me to match other dealers prices, and in the
interest of good customer relations I'll honor your request.  Call anytime
if you have any other comments or questions.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4108
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93 12:04a
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI IN STOCK!               Refer: NONE
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4109
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93 12:04a
Subj: SEEDY 6-PAKS: $149                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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                     SEEDY ROM 6-PAK: $149 + $4 S/H.
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    to find, but Starvector has several sets in stock ready for immediate
 delivery at only $149 + $4 shipping. That's only $24.83 per CD, and each is
    packed with top-quality GIF pix with GIF's and FLI/GL animation on #6.

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 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: KEVIN RICH                             Number: 4110
  To: ANDREW SETO                              Date: 08/28/93  8:22p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Cd-Rom For Sale             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Is it internal or external...and does it come with a controler card?
-
Kevin

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From: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN                      Number: 4111
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/29/93  3:17p
Subj: BB                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  MG> day and
 >  MG>   was way too late.  He was down to his last 4 CDs and the price had
 >  MG>   already climbed to at least $250.oo  Had to
 >  MG> settle for one of those cheap
 >  MG>   $25.oo CDs.  Guess I will never know what I
 >  MG> missed, but since I never had

 > That has got to be the most ridiculous thing I have
 > ever heard of to pay $250 for a CD disc.  I have one
 > here on my BBS and Busty has always been a great CD
 > disc, but it sure isn't worth paying $250 for.

Mebbe not. But if somebody offered you $250 for it wouldn't you take it and
laugh all the way to the bank?

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From: RON RICHMOND                           Number: 4112
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 08/28/93 11:00p
Subj: Canadian sales                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HI Michellea,
      After I spoke to you on Sat. I called Dave Reed. He was very
   good,going so far as sending me a non- adult disk to replace
   the disk Customs grabbed.

To ALL.
      I had ordered Busty Babes vol.2 from Dave and it was held at the
   border. The P.O. would not return it to Dave and when I called Fed.Ex
   they estimated $24 to $36 Can. depending on actual weight,to send it
   back. Estimated only, because I cannot get the disk to them from
   Customs.and they would have to pick it up at the P.O. I chose to
   abandon the disk, as this would be almost as much as the original cost.
   Customs would not tell me which disks would be stopped.
   Canadians would be well advised to order from Vince and Michellea
   Sorensen.
                                                  Ron.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4113
  To: MARK WATERS                              Date: 08/29/93 12:03p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes v1.0                    Refer: NONE
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 -=> Quoting Mark Waters to Ken Tully <=-
 MW> I have BB Volume 1, but how do you know if it's one of the first
 MW> copies made?  Is there some special writing on the disc or casing

Yep!  Look at the top of the CD. If the words "Graphic Software"
appears, it's from the first pressing. You could also chekc the CD's
contents. If the two directories XSTORY1 and XSTORY2 are MISSING, then
it's from the first pressing.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4114
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  7:01p
Subj: Review: Southern Beauties - 1/5         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   My very sincere thanks to Blaine Richard and David Van Gelder of
   Graphical Images of Florida (GIoF) for providing a copy of their
   latest adult CD release "Southern Beauties" (SB) for review.

   In general, this review will follow the style and content paradigms
   of my past reviews, but with some added embellishments which I hope
   the reader will find useful and informative.  I found this to be
   necessary because (a) in writing my past reviews, I've learned a few
   things; (b) it took me far longer to review SB than it has any
   previous adult CD; and (c) I think SB represents the coming trend in
   its genre and more expaded, more robust reviews will be warranted.

   Statistics
   ==========

   This section addresses the numerically measurable aspects of the CD
   under review.

   Computer examination of SB revealed 1240 usable images.  Of this
   number, 1003 are GIFs and 237 are TIFF (Targa) files.  The GIF files
   all report a resolution of 1024x768x256.  The Targa files all report
   a 640x480x16M resolution. The GIFs occupy 359,280,955 bytes for an
   average size of about 358,306 bytes.  Make no mistake, these are
   large files (more on this later in the VISUAL section).  The Targa
   files uniformly report about 1,312,463 bytes/file occupying some
   307,132,488 bytes in all.

   SB's scans are all originals as near as I could tell.  I didn't run
   their names against my GIF file name data base to search for possible
   re-hashing because of that belief.  Having said that, I did spot a
   few scans that were near twins of each other.  While these wouldn't
   strictly qualify as duplicates, they're so close to each other in
   style that dropping one or the other from the CD's inventory would
   have been at no net loss.  A few examples of these "near duplicates"
   are: ALITA_06 & _08, CASSY_08 & _09, and TRIO_06 & _10.

   Operations to follow...

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4115
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  7:04p
Subj: Review: Southern Beauties 2/5           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   Operations (Part 1)
   ===================

   This section focuses on the "usability" aspects of the CD being
   reviewed.  Factors that influence both end-user and BBS usage are
   considered. This section necessarily has some subjectivity in it so it
   should be remembered that what follows is only one person's opinion.

   The CD "Southern Beauties" does indeed contain several text files in
   various directories that are uniformly named "FILES.BBS" (F.B).  GIoF
   has taken pains both on this echo, in some files on the CD itself, and
   in SB's packaging to say that SB's images are NOT to be used on a BBS
   for downloading.  Questions have been raised regarding that stance and
   the existence of F.B - the two things seemingly in contradiction with
   each other.  I think I know the answer to this paradox which comes in
   multiple parts:

       First, and to satisfy a relevant point that has also been recently
       raised, these files do indeed follow the format of the original
       F.B specification: file names begin in column 1 followed by a 45
       character (or less) file description beginning in column 14.

       Secondly, the F.B files that accompany the images in their
       respective directories are 100% useless for BBS use because every
       description is identical.  Each and every such description says
       only that the file is copyrighted material of GIoF.  At first
       glance, this may raise the question of why put such a F.B there if
       it's useless. I think that's the whole point.  It is part of GIoFs
       attempt to ensure that SB won't be used on a BBS.  After all, with
       a meaningless F.B, a sysop would have to either generate actual
       descriptions for some 1200+ files - something that's likely to
       make him miss Monday Night Football at least - or be content to
       listen to endless gripes from his users that the descriptions are
       useless.  Neither is a productive pursuit.  One could argue that
       simply leaving off F.B altogether achieves the same result which
       would seem a reasonable conclusion.  An alternate answer is that
       F.B generation is a more-or-less by-product of the manufacturing
       process which is easier to make useless than to delete.  I can't
       answer that point with any insight.

       Thirdly, there are a few truly usable F.B on SB.  These are in the
       UTILITY directory, the VPIC directory, and the HELP directory.
       Reading through them with a text file viewer was educational.  I
       expect that using the F.B template provided GIoF with a handy and
       intuitive way to place such helpful data on their product.

   This brings us to the organization, i.e. directory structure, of SB.
   There are no less than 72 directories on SB.  Some 52 of them are
   apparently named after the models whose scans are contained therein.
   There are also 14 directories with the name "DUOnn_mm" where "nn" is
   01-14 and mm is a serial number.  Twelve of those directories
   uniformly contain scans of two women together (01-12).  Two contain
   scans of one man and one woman together (13-14).  There are three
   directories, MISC, TRIO, and 24BIT that also contain scans.  MISC
   seems to have been where GIoF decided to dump a few scans (18) that
   otherwise didn't have a home.  TRIO has 10 scans of two women and one
   man.  24BIT is where the 237 Targa files are located.

   More Operations to follow...


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4116
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  7:05p
Subj: Review: Southern Beauties 3/5           Refer: NONE
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   Operations (Part 2)
   ===================

   Finally, there are three supporting directories: HELP, UTILITY, and
   VPIC.  The HELP directory has some nice text files that any user
   would find useful, including descriptions of the pre-configured
   versions of VPIC that are included on SB.  One flaw that was
   discovered: One of these files describes the installation and
   configuration of CSHOW.  There is no version of CSHOW on the CD that
   I could find - and I looked pretty hard. Otherwise, these files are
   welcome and helpful.

   The VPIC directory contains 40+ pre-configured versions of VPIC
   version 6.0g. VPIC is a popular image file viewer.  These are
   shareware versions and the user is encouraged to register the one he
   after a short trial period.

   The UTILITY directory is a bit curious.  It contains AAPLAY and
   GRASPRT, two programs for viewing so-called "animated" files in .FLI
   and .GL formats, respectively.  Since SB has no such files of either
   type on it, why are these "players" here?  This directory also has a
   usable text file viewer if you're in need of one.

   Installation of SB is quite straight forward.  If the instructions on
   the inside cover of the jewel case are followed, you will likely end
   up with at least a usable system, if not an optimal one.  That
   procedure will default to the use of a VESA-configured version of
   VPIC (VPIC_43 on your dance card) which worked well with my S3-based
   setup.  However, after reading the HELP directory files, I tried the
   included version of WHICHVGA which (a) couldn't identify my video
   board and therefore (b) promptly locked the system up to the point of
   requiring a cold boot to restart.  A pretty unreasonale response just
   because it didn't know the answer, if you ask me.  I did find three
   other usable versions of VPIC (i.e. besides the dafaulted _43
   version) in this directory.  All seemed to work very well for me with
   the exception of generating a slide show of Targa files. (Note: slide
   shows of the Targa files is only available while running VPIC
   "native". ROM_MENU won't tag non-GIF files for slide show viewing.)
   Only the left half of the first Targa image was displayed but all
   other images were displayed normally.  When VPIC was subsequently
   terminated, COMMAND.COM would not/could not be reloaded and the
   computer had to be cold-started.  Nonetheless, all in all, most
   everyone will find all they need to run and enjoy the scans on SB
   with minimum problems in this directory.

   For you Targa fans, there was one additional incident that's worth
   reporting: I found four .TIF files: DUO01_05, DUO02_06, DUO03_02, and
   HOLLY_01 that caused my favorite viewer GDS to immediately abort
   execution and take me back to the DOS prompt.  These files were fully
   viewable with VPIC_43, however.  GDS did this once before with one of
   the "swimsuit" CDs.  I guess it's super-picky about Targa formats of
   headers, or something.  For the remainder of the Targa files, GDS
   displayed them with unusual rapidity. They each "painted" quickly and
   continuously and very smoothly on the screen - the access light on my
   Sony 7205 staying on constantly.  I've never seen it do that before!

   As for the user interface, those familiar with the CDMENU interface
   from Ecstasy or Busty Babes will be right at home.  GIoF calls their
   interface ROM_MENU, but if it's not a clone of CDMENU, it so close to
   being one as to not to matter.  Usability-wise, this is a decent,
   non-GUI (i.e. text-based) interface.  Ease of navigation is its
   strongest point plus it can be used with any CD, not just SB.

   Visual to follow...


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4117
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  7:08p
Subj: Review: Southern Beauties 4/5           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   Visual (Part 1)
   ===============

   NOTICE:  This part of the review is quite long.  If you're not using
   an offline reader, you might consider downloading this message to
   save connect time.

   This area deals with the intrinsic qualities of the scans on the CD
   being reviewed.  It is the most subjective area in the evaluation, so
   once again remember, what follows is one person's opinion.  This is
   also the area that I've decided to add or at least call out
   separately, certain qualities or the lack thereof, which I will call
   "production values".

   The production values of SB are quite high.  To begin, the jewel box
   has beautiful full-color inserts both front and back, with the front
   cover insert being two-sided.  As an added bonus, the images on the
   inserts are true WYSIWYG - What You See Is What You Get - the
   pictures thus shown are also scans on the CD.  A delightful change
   from some adult material advertising!  Secondly, the installation
   procedures, as previously mentioned, will result in a usable
   configuration for most folks.  If one isn't over-anxious to see all
   the pretty ladies, a browse through the text files in the HELP
   directory will be helpful in setting up a perhaps more optimized
   configuration, and it was a nice touch by GIoF to provide that
   capability.

   Secondly, a great number of the scans are FULL SCREEN in size.  Oh,
   what a welcome sight!  Thank you GIoF! Those that aren't truly full
   screen are either full screen in height or width, with the other
   dimension being well-proportioned.  In short, there's NO lack of
   eyewash on this CD, and no need to squint or "zoom in".  Other
   producers take note: The standard in this regard has been forever
   raised.

   Thirdly, being a truly new production, there are NO BBS ads on any of
   the scans.  In fact, there's only a small, unobtrusive line at the
   bottom of most scans giving a copyright notice.  (You missed a few
   GIoF, but not to worry.)

   The quality of the scans in SB is, in general, very high.  I have
   some "constructive suggestions" to make later on, but for now, let's
   concentrate on the positive. To begin, let there be no mistake, the
   women of SB are gorgeous!  Not only that, but they all seem to know
   it and are damn proud of it, thank you very much!  If you're a
   sighted, heterosexual male (i.e. a card-carrying member of SB's
   targeted audience), and you subscribe to the mainstream of thinking
   about what represents feminine pulchritude, you're sure to find at
   least one, and probably several, "Fantasy Lovers" on this CD. If you
   can't, you're either one sexually burned out puppy, or you lied about
   meeting the above criteria.

   Other welcome amenities are, for example, models that are
   professionally made up, including attentions to detail like manicured
   fingernails; the use of new/fresh props and sets; etc.  GIoF
   obviously paid a LOT of attention to the production of this CD, and
   it shows.

   A few comments about the DUO and TRIO directories' scans: The scans
   in both of these (sets of) directories stop short of showing any
   actual physical contact save touching.  In this respect, they're
   somewhat similar to the scans in Volcano - "close but no cigar".  The
   DUO01 through DUO12 directories are strictly Sapphic, with DUO11 by
   far being the most tender and tastefully done.  DUO12 is a close
   second in this regard.  DUO13 and DUO14 are M/F with DUO14 being the
   "hotter" of the two - but again, no direct contact other than
   caressing is visible.

   Now for the flip side: Those of you whom have read some of my other
   reviews of adult CDs know that I always have a few captious (some
   might say nit-picking) remarks to made.  I don't mean to be overly
   critical.  I've never attempted to produce a product such as SB and
   likely never will. I have NO "connections" or obligations to any
   aspect of the adult entertainment industry, and likely never will.
   Therefore, I don't have an axe to grind against any real or imagined,
   present or future competitors.  What I am trying to do is to play
   whatever part I can in raising the standard for such products so that
   we CUSTOMERS get what we pay for and are entitled to receive for our
   hard-earned dollars.  With that said, let's press on...

   The most grievous sin that SB commits (remember, one person's opinion
   only) is that it over uses one particular type of pose.  If you have
   any doubts about the exterior gynecological aspects of the female
   anatomy, SB will cure that deficit in your education to the point of
   almost qualifying you to practice OB/GYN.  While I didn't actually
   count the number of scans that are so oriented, I'm confident that
   they number well into the hundreds. Surely there are other, highly
   erotic ways to pose nude or partially clothed women.  SB does have a
   number of such "alternate" scans - KATIE_21, ANITA_01, ASHTON_17,
   BARBIE_01, CONNIE_03, CHANEL_06, DUSTY_01, PAULA_01, LEXI_05,
   CINDY_01, CRYSTL_04 & _15, PETRA_02 & _04, RANDI_01, SHANEN_02, and
   YVETTE_01 - to name a few.  So the "grievous sin" is one of a lack of
   variety of poses.  I suppose it's expected that such poses belong to
   the "standard set" - and that's OK by me.  I'd just like to see it,
   or any other pose, prevented from becoming mundane.

   Another over-worked theme in SB scans is boots.  I never saw so may
   shots of models wearing thigh-high boots.  Perhaps this is a fetish
   of the photographers (or GIoF), but it got tedious for me after a
   while - especially when I saw boots worn OVER textured hosiery.
   That's like trying to guild the lily and it never works.

   One theme that was definitely UNDER utilized has to do with animals.
   Now before anyone gets their dander up, I'm not talking about sex
   with animals, just the use of small animals as props.  There was
   exactly one scan, SHANEN_04, in which a small white cat can be seen
   in the frame.  This added a touch of softness and sensitivity to the
   scan that was most pleasant and welcome.  I would recommend to GIoF
   and all their peer producers to consider adding at least a few scans
   with similar use of animals.  Personally, I think cats, kittens, and
   rabbits would make excellent props, in the right scene.  Others might
   suggest horses or snakes but I think those creatures would carry a
   different connotation.

   More Visual to follow...


... DOS never says "EXCELLENT command or filename"...
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4118
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  7:18p
Subj: Review: Southern Beauties 5/5           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   Visual (Part 2)
   ===============

   Second on the list of "could've been done better" relates to the
   technical aspects of some of the original exposures.  There are
   several scans that exhibit photographic flaws that are serious enough
   to detract from one's viewing pleasure.  Of such flaws, three types
   stand out: lighting, focus, and framing.

       Lighting:  While there are a number of alfresco scans, the vast
       majority are studio shots, or at least made indoors.  The
       studio/indoor shots are the subject here.  Several, more than I
       would have liked to have seen, exhibit "washout" - the result of
       having the lighting too close to the subject, or of it being too
       harsh, or poorly positioned.  This causes some parts of the
       subject to be too bright (look washed out) while others are
       either correctly exposed or are too dark and lose detail.  Two
       examples of this type of error are visible in DAISY_04 and
       DUO02_07, but there are others.

       A second lighting problem centers around what are called "catch
       lights".  Catch lights are the reflections of a light source in a
       subject's eyes.  Ideally, there should be exactly one catch light
       in each eye of the subject (e.g. HOLLY_01).  No catch light may
       make the subject appear to be blind in that eye (e.g. JODEE_01);
       two or more catch lights tend to make the subject look a bit
       cross-eyed (e.g. AMBER_01).  Several of SB's images fall prey
       to this "Photography 101" mistake.

       Focus:  It seems evident that most if not all of the original
       exposures were made with either a 35mm or a roll film camera.
       There's certainly nothing wrong with this approach, but it can
       present challenges for maintaining sharpness (depth of field) in
       certain situations.  Some of SB's scans fell victim to these
       traps. Examples are CINDY_13, JENNA_01, and CHANEL_03 & _04.  It
       usually happens when a subject is framed "in the long dimension",
       like from the feet shooting towards the head of a person.
       Without careful attention, only parts of the subject will be
       rendered in sharp focus.  Sometimes this is OK when a particular
       effect is desired; ususally it's not OK and detracts from the
       image.

       Framing:  This is potentially the most serious of these three
       types of technical errors.  The human eye/brain can forgive or
       ignore to some degree lighting or focus errors, but when
       something's in the scene that shouldn't be there, that's hard to
       overlook.  In SB's case, a few scans are awkward in appearance.
       For example, if the bottom of a shoe looms ominously in the
       foreground, or the woman looks as if she were trained as an
       contortionist and is posed very accordingly and looking quite
       unnatural, then asthetic appeal suffers.  Some examples of these
       flubs are SHAE_03, ANGEL_14, _15, & _19; CINDY_06, and CRISSY_05.

       Of special note, to me, in the "unusual framed" category are
       CINDY_07, CINDY_22, and CRISSY_09.  I puzzled more over why the
       photograph was framed the way it was than paid attention to the
       image.  The horn in CINDY_07 was particularly curious.  Perhaps
       my prior training as a photographer is my own special albatross
       here, and others wouldn't see the issue.  So be it.

   Moving from the photographic side to the electronic imaging side,
   some of SB's images showed dark striations in the frame.  These are
   most noticeable in the darker areas of the frame.  They do not appear
   in all scans.  I would speculate that these are a by-product of the
   scanning process, but I don't really know. Examples are ALITA_01, &
   _03; APRIL_09; and ANGEL_09.

   There are a couple of other missed cues, but they are really getting
   to the nit-picking stage: CINDY_25 appears to have a stain on the
   original transparency; the KATIE_02 transparency was reversed
   left-to-right during scanning (note clock).  The color balance in
   DEBRA_07, CINDY_25, and CINDY_27 is wrong.  While I'm taking the time
   to call these flaws out, it should be noted that these are pretty
   trivial errors.  I guess it's the perfectionist in me.

   Bottom line:  SB is a winner. If you don't have need for a BBS-able
   CD, and don't want the XXX stuff (tho' some scans in DUO13 & 14 and
   TRIO come pretty close), SB will knock your socks off with LARGE
   images of beautiful women in beautiful poses. (I fell in love, or at
   least lust, several times!)  To use a baseball metaphor, SB is an
   extra base hit - at least a triple for sure.  Correct a few things,
   add a GUI like SHOWOFF, and you'd have an out-of-the-park home run.
   Nonetheless, SB raises the ante for adult CDs considerably.  It has
   so much right going for it that its "positives" overwhelm its
   "negatives".  Truly, the main fault that I find with the CD,
   apparent fixation on one type of pose, others might find to be it's
   strongest suit - and that's A-OK.  This is the CD that Digital
   Dreams (Ero Tek) and Giffy Gold were trying to be, but failed by a
   wide margin. If you liked either one of them, plop down your money
   and get SB. BTW: Add a seat belt to the chair in front of your PC
   before you start - you'll need it!


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From: WILLIAM DUPREE                         Number: 4119
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/28/93  2:27p
Subj: Weekly cd specials                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: ED JUNE                                Number: 4120
  To: KEN TULLY                                Date: 08/29/93  6:08p
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROMS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How is your CD gonna differ from the Walnut Creeks offering?
A 'front end'?
Hmm...


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From: ED JUNE                                Number: 4121
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/29/93  6:18p
Subj: Re: New Echo - Multimedia               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ismail Arslangiray wrote in a message to Scott Mcknight:

>>I have started a new echo area called MULTIMEDIA
> Are you looking for links to get backbone status?  I'll be interested if
> if you are.
IA> Hi Scott,
IA> There is enough interest to get it qualified for backbone
IA> status. BTW, vendors are also welcome!..After echo will get
IA> going, I will give up the moderator status to another
IA> individual who may have more time. TTYL 

PLEASE let us all know when it hits the backbone, eh?


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From: ED JUNE                                Number: 4122
  To: CRAIG EDON                               Date: 08/29/93  6:33p
Subj: OS/2 CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Craig Edon wrote in a message to Boris Osadciw:

BO> Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the
BO>  rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom
BO>  line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65.

CE> Isn't the rebate only for registered users of 2.0?


Yes!
You MUST send in your old proof of license from version 2.0



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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 4123
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/29/93 10:29a
Subj: Disks for sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HI!!!  How about that Indiana Jones game?  How much do I send and where do I
send  my Money?

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 4124
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 08/29/93 10:32a
Subj: Seventh Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello there,  you have seventh guest for sale? I would like to buy it from you.
I don't have anygames YET for my CD rom and would like to buy it from you. 
PLeasse Please,  I  saw it in Radio Shack up here and saw how good it was
please PLease PLease How much do you want and where do I send?

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4125
  To: MIKE KIRKPATRICK                         Date: 08/29/93 10:18p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > That CD-Rom is Already available To Purchase.

Don't understand this message? I am trying to trade the CD of Busty Babes for a
CD player. If this is what you want contact me at 512-939-9822     Thanks
                                        Pat

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 4126
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/16/93  2:25a
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MC>MG>  Hello Mark.  Yes I would like the list of "ALL" the CD's your carry.
MC>MG>  Please mail to:
MC>MG>                  Max Green
MC>MG>                  399 Westmeade Dr
MC>MG>                  Gretna, LA. 70056

MC> We'll send you one as soon as possible.  Thanks for replying.

MC>                                               Mark
MC>--- FreeMail 1.08b
MC> * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)
Mark,
         Please send me a catalog of all cd titles at:
        Sam Figueroa
        Sam's Software
        Rt 2 Box 2453-A
        Manchester, TN 37355


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 4127
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/16/93  2:50a
Subj: CD ROM Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>BC>    I saw your ad for CD's in this echo.  Do you carry Drives as well?  I
MS>yo
MS>BC>do I am interested in a 3 or 4 stand alone type for a BBS.  Can ya help?

MS>Bruce,

MS>Sorry, but I haven't found that extra 6 or 7 hours a day I need to delve
MS>into hardware!  8)  I only stock CD's right now, which is OK for me
MS>because I like to concentrate on one area if I can.  Try Boris or Ismail
MS>in this echo.  They both have excellent prices on drives.

MS>Later,
MS>.\\ike

MS>---
MS> * SLMR 2.1a * Hello, I am Mike and I am a baudaholic.

MS>--- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
MS> * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/10
 Mike,
        What cd would you reccomend that have alot of .MODS, .VOCS, and
        other sounds, also do you have any that have lots of visual
        stuff as well as audio!
                                      Thanks,
                                         Sam Figueroa


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From: TYRONE THOMASON                        Number: 4128
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 08/30/93  2:26p
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DH> > Hey .\\ike, I was charged $88 for Precision Mapping, what gives?  I
DH> > also
DH> > notice NightOwl 9.0 is going for $25 and I was charged $28.  Could
DH> > you
DH> > send me two CD Caddies and we call it even?

DH>You've been ripped off, rush down and call the BBB right away <G>.

Yep and Mike hasn't replied yet......   Screw the BBB, I'm going to the
President!!!  I ought to get something for my tax increase :{)
By the way UPS (Unclaimed Parcal Service) didn't send my disc to you did
they? They seem to have a problem with addresses around here.  Who
knows, may be in Peru for all I know.

Moderator, sorry for being off topic.

                 Ty.

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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4129
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/29/93  1:06a
Subj: Disks for sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Is the 20th Century Almanac Price Negotable?

Thanks!

                       -Jason

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From: PAT RILEY                              Number: 4130
  To: JASON SCHWARTZ                           Date: 08/29/93  5:57a
Subj: PC-SIG                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Has anyone had any experience with the PC-SIG company? They've sent me 2
fliers within the last coupla months that sound like good deals. One is
for "New Windows CD-ROM: only $19.95" and the other is for "New Games
CD-ROM **$19.95**"  If anyone's dealt with them before, please let me
know what your experiences have been. BTW, their address is 1030D East
Duane Avenue; Sunnycale, CA 94086 and I know that's legit because I've
verified it through another CD w/ business directories on it.

Jason...

They are extremely reputable.
You can probably buy their discs cheaper through a dealer here in this
conference if you look around.  Try Mike at Starvector.

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From: ROBERT LEDERMAN                        Number: 4131
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  8:19a
Subj: ADAM Anatomy CD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone know how to get a hold of the "ADAM" anatomy teaching system
for Windows on CD?    It is supposed to be a spectacular tutorial
intended for medical students.

Thanks for the help,
RJL
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From: ROBERT LEDERMAN                        Number: 4132
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  8:20a
Subj: Oxford English Dictionary               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anybody have the complete Oxford English Dictionary on CD?
How is it?
How big is it?
Where did you buy it?

Would anybody sell it to me cheap?
Thanks
RJL
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From: MIKE MCCUE                             Number: 4133
  To: YVES DESJARDINS                          Date: 08/29/93  9:12a
Subj: CD for trade...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Sorry, but I already have this CD.

Thats cool.. What kind of price are you looking for on it again?

Mike


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 4134
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/29/93  1:26p
Subj: Thanks                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Mike!

Thanks for that last disc you send over here!  What a spread!!!

Later,

Dave


... Friends don't let friends vote democratic!

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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 4135
  To: DAVID MOORE @ 910/114                    Date: 08/29/93 10:21a
Subj: Re: 2 ROMS FOR SALE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DM@9>         Tell me about the Terrorist group profile CD...

It is a cd of extensive infromation on various terrorist groups around the
world.  It has a great search engine, it even details the particular actions,
bombings,or highjackings...etc., that a group has done.  It goes into what the
group is striving to achive...Who is funding the groups...even goes as far as
showing the pictures in color of course of leaders of these groups.  It is dos
based. That is about it in a nutshell.

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From: CHRIS JOHNSON                          Number: 4136
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/29/93 10:35a
Subj: 7TH GUEST ONLY $39!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CJ>                "Kings Quest VI is not just EXELENT, its a LANDMARK CJ>     
          GAME."
CJ>                        Just to add.. the price for this is CJ>             
          APPROX 70.00.
CJ>                I recomend that you team up with Sierra and get this CJ>    
           on your price list.  maybe even at discounted prices.. CJ>          
     this game is well... FAR Beyond 7th 
CJ> Guest.. even though
CJ>                I would recomend it..  anyways... see if you can get CJ>    
           KINGS QUEST VI CD ROM VER.  It'll sell SO fast.. I'll CJ>           
    PROMISE you that..

 MS> Well Chris, we have the King's Quest VI's in stock and selling now
 MS> at $47 if you're interested.  If you don't have one yet, talk to me!

 MS> Later,
 MS> .\\ike



        For the CD VERSION?



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From: MIKE CICCOLINI                         Number: 4137
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93  6:18a
Subj: Question about CD-ROM?                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To all you experts out there,

 I own a Sound Blaster, (not the PRO but the 1.5 non-stereo) and
 was wondering if I bought a CD-ROM would installation be smooth
 or would there be some problems with finding drivers or some
 other compatibility problems. I have been told that it would
 be better if I sold my SBlaster and bought a multi-media kit.
 I'd rather not do that if I can use my own SBlaster.
 Thanks for any advice!!!

                                        
                                        Mike ~Chic~
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From: MICHAEL INGRAM                         Number: 4138
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/29/93  6:42a
Subj: Pioneer DMR600                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey there Boris...

Rumor has it you would be the man to talk to about obtaining a 
CD Changer from...I dont know a thing about setting that model up.
I currently run 2 single roms on my bbs and wanna move up to
"MORE DOWNLOADS!" <G>,  anyways...

Leave me a message on how to get a "complete" package for under
DOS.  I am currently running a standard ISA system and would need a
controller accordingly...

I would also be intrested in any used units if they are available...
Wouldnt have to be Pioneer...Just Complete Package and hold a 
lotta cd's!

Thanks....
Michael Ingram

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From: SHARI DOMKE                            Number: 4139
  To: IAN LEVSTEIN                             Date: 08/29/93  2:51a
Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Ian Levstein dated 08-25-93 ***
> >Has the Encylopedia Britannica been released on CD yet?
> 
> No, and there apparently are no plans to do so for the indefinite 
> future....
> 
But The Software Toolworks MultiMedia Encyclopedia is out......Might be worth
looking into......

                                    Shari


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From: J. ALLEN                               Number: 4140
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 08/29/93  8:30p
Subj: Re: Still available                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JA> I have the following CD-ROM disks for sale or possible swaps.  All disks
JA> DO NOT RESPOND IN THIS ECHO!!  Direct E-mail offers to 1:2201/13
MK>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
MK>     This is the CDROM_SALE, I *WILL* reply here.  If you do not want offers
MK> in this echo, then DO NOT POST in this echo.  Now, on to business.
MK> 
JA>  5.00   MEDLINE                 Medline Database
JA>  5.00   LAW LIBRARY             Social Law Library
MK> 
MK>     Tell me a little more about these disks and you may have a sale.

Not saying you can't post here Michael, but since I hardly read this echo
everyday I will miss many that do.....Get it?  I am not sure though why you
chose to exercise your right to post in this case as my ad clearly
stated that $25.00 was the minimum I would accept.  I do not want to
bother packing and mailing a $5.00 disk........Regardless, both those disks
are gone.

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From: J. ALLEN                               Number: 4141
  To: MICHAEL CROSSON                          Date: 08/30/93 12:03p
Subj: Re: Jem Disk CD-Rom Trade In Sale       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MC> Send us your old CD-Rom (in good condition) and $14.95 and we'll send 
MC> you Jem Disc I shareware CD-Rom collection.  Jem Disc was printed last 
MC> fall and contains many timeless files.  Due to it's super selection of 
MC> BBS related files, it's a must for all sysops!  Integration with bbs 
MC> software is EZ!

MC> The current price without trade in is $19.95 plus S/H so this deal 
MC> represents a savings of $10.  HURRY - offer ends 9/15/93!

                   current price      $19.95
               tade-in pricerade-in price  
                                 ----------
               Savings            $ 5.00 $
               S/H savings on JEM  $5.00
                                  -------
                 Sub Total        $10.00

              S/H on old trade   -($5.00)
                                  -------

             Grand Total Savings  $5.00    <----

I come up with $5.00.  How do you get to $10.00 savings?

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4142
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 08/29/93  8:47p
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DH> > Hey .\\ike, I was charged $88 for Precision Mapping, what gives?  I
DH> > also
DH> > notice NightOwl 9.0 is going for $25 and I was charged $28.  Could
DH> > you
DH> > send me two CD Caddies and we call it even?

DH>You've been ripped off, rush down and call the BBB right away <G>.

And you've made a false accusation.  Rush down and call the Enquirer
right away . . . they may have a job opening for you. <G>

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4143
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  8:47p
Subj: UPDATED CD PRICE LIST 1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 September 1993          DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 8/29
 **************************************************************************
                                   1 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00
 5-Star Premium Windows........27.00    Microsoft Golf MPC (New!).....58.00
 7th Guest.....................45.00    Microsoft Musical Instruments.57.00
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........49.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Middle East Diary.............35.00
 American Business Phonebk 91..17.00    MIDI Music Shop...............27.00
 American Business Phonebk 92..19.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50
 American Business Phonebk 93..39.00    Monarch Notes.................59.00
 Amiga AB20....................15.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 Aminet Amiga (New!)...........15.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...38.50
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Monster Media 93 (New!).......33.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......23.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....25.50    Mother of All Clipart.........23.50
 Arizona Images (New!).........30.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....24.00
 Audubon's Birds...............23.00    National Business Directory...29.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Barney Bear Goes to Space.....20.00    National Parks................29.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 4.1.................20.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 8.0.................25.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl 9.0 (In stock!).....29.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....13.00    Night Owl 8/9 2-Pak...........49.00
 Business Master...............20.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    North American Fax Book.......39.00
 California Collection.........17.00    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Canadian Shareware (New!).....22.00    Original Shareware............10.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...19.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    Our Solar System..............13.00
 CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....29.50
 CD Winbox (New!)..............25.00    PC-SIG #12....................26.00
 CD Grab Bag Disc..............19.00    PC-SIG #13 (Pre-orders).......39.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    PC Gameroom...................27.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Pentomino.....................32.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phoenix 3.0 ($6 w/ any order).13.00
 Clipart Galore................28.00    Phonedisc USA (New!)..........69.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 2........................33.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........25.00    Pier 3 (Pre-orders)...........39.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00    Pinacotheca Multimedia........24.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Composer Quest................34.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....15.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency....97.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......79.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....66.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........115.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....66.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Conan the Cimmerian...........33.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........29.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........27.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Crossword Cracker.............24.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Cybergenic Ranger (New!)......27.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Q&A 4.0.......................39.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Reader's Library..............28.50
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Reel Clips (New!).............44.00
 Desktop Bookshop..............27.50    Reference Library.............27.50
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....36.00
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...42.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............33.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
 DTPro.........................28.50    Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
 Education Master..............20.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
 Electronic Cookbook (New!)....33.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......59.00
 Empire Clipart................26.00    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Shareware Online 1............25.00

      600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS/OS2 CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

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 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4144
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  8:47p
Subj: UPDATED CD PRICE LIST 2/2               Refer: NONE
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Encyclopedia of Sound.........15.00    Shareware Online 2 (New!).....39.00
 European Monarchs.............35.00    Shareware Overload............13.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    Shareware Studio 1............20.00
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......29.00    Shareware Studio 2............25.00
 Find-It Webster...............49.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Firearm Reference (New!)......30.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    Sights & Sounds...............25.00
 Font Master 2.................28.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Game Arena (New!).............13.00    So Much Shareware 2...........27.00
 Game Master...................20.00    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....28.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    Software Vault 1..............22.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....24.00
 Gameware Collection (New!)....24.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..19.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    Sound Works...................19.00
 Giga Games (New!).............26.00    Soundware Collection (New!)...27.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    SoundWAV......................25.00
 Global Explorer...............93.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Space Quest IV................24.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Grolier's STW Ill. Ency. 2.0..35.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Grolier's STW MM Ency. 5.0....45.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Grolier's STW MPC Ency. 1.5...47.50    Street Atlas USA..............86.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...23.00    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    Super CD 2....................25.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....16.00
 Hamware 1993 (New!)...........28.00    Super Games For Windows.......16.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.00
 House of Games................22.50    Technotools...................13.00
 Illustrated Holy Bible........47.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..25.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....45.00    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.00
 Jets & Props..................31.50    Total Baseball................27.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00    Trump Castle..................28.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. & World Atlas............25.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 King's Quest V................24.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 King's Quest VI (New!)........47.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........23.50    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............34.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00    U.S. Wars: WWII...............34.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    Up All Night Shareware (New!).17.00
 Libris Britannia..............42.00    VGA Spectrum 1................14.00
 Lion's Share..................22.00    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 Loom..........................19.00    Visions of Saturn.............23.00
 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...39.00    Vital Signs...................45.00
 Mac Shareware (New!)..........24.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........35.00    Win/OS2.......................12.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Windoware.....................13.00
 Magnum One Shareware..........25.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Magnum Sight & Sound..........25.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Majestic Places...............38.50    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Manhole.......................35.50    World Atlas MPC...............26.50
 Mantis........................24.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World Traveler................15.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............28.00    World View....................24.00
 Mega Clipart (New!)...........29.00    World Vision 3-Pak............45.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......56.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00

      600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS/OS2 CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground ship
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4145
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  8:47p
Subj: UPDATED ADULT CD PRICES                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    Nightwatch Interactive (Vid)..49.00
 After Dark Trilogy (Video)....45.00    PC-PIX 1......................30.00
 All Beauties (New!)...........33.00    PC-PIX 2......................30.00
 Amateur Models (New!).........35.00    PC-PIX 3......................30.00
 Animation Fantasies 1.........29.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Busty Babes 3.0...............25.00    Porkware 2....................37.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........28.00    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Erotic Encounters 1...........36.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Erotic Encounters 2 (New!)....36.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Girls of Vivid 1 (New!).......45.00    SeXXcapades The Movie (Video).49.00
 Girls of Vivid 2 (New!).......45.00    Seymore Butts Interactive (V).49.00
 Hidden Obsessions (Video).....59.00    Smutware......................32.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................29.00    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................29.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......30.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................29.00    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............29.00    Storm 2.......................28.00
 Kama Sutra (Video)............59.00    Storm 3.......................28.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Luscious Ladies (New!)........35.00    Total Fantasy (New!)..........33.50
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 My First Time (Video).........39.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 Mystique of the Orient (Vid)..59.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

      600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS/OS2 CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: GARY KELLISON                          Number: 4146
  To: JAMES HOGUE                              Date: 08/28/93 10:50a
Subj: GREAT CHEAP CD                          Refer: NONE
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JH>Would like to recommend a cheap cd IF you run windows and have a Best
JH>Buy store near you.  This week ROM_Material is on sale for $9.97.
JH>It is by the people who make ICON_Hear_It and ICON_See_It.

Wah!  This CD is from Moon Valley Software and cost me $15 at Egghead.
I thought I was getting a good deal 'cause it was $20 at CompUSA.

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4147
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93  4:15p
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
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This is the last notice, have the one and only special BB#1.
Will still trade this grat CD that is being sold every where eles for a CD
player (for computer), OR IDE hard drive,
OR a mother board (no less than a 386 DX40), OR simms.
You can reach me at 512-939-9822. (Also need tape backup)
                         Pat

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 4148
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 08/30/93  1:29a
Subj: Re: New Echo - Multimedia               Refer: NONE
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>> There is enough interest to get it qualified for backbone status.
>> BTW, vendors are also welcome!..After echo will get going, I will
>> give up the moderator status to another individual who may have more
>> time. TTYL
> Please let us know when it hits the backbone Ismail....thanks.
Sure!..TTYL 

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From: JERRY WEGER                            Number: 4149
  To: JOSEPH THOMAS                            Date: 08/28/93 11:13p
Subj: Mitsumi & Sound Card                    Refer: NONE
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Joe,
appreciate the info- will check it out
regards, Jerry


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From: JERRY WEGER                            Number: 4150
  To: TONY MATA                                Date: 08/28/93 11:15p
Subj: Mitsumi & sound card                    Refer: NONE
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Tony,
much appreciated. I will check out both cards. Sounds likr you got an
excellent price on the Galaxy.
Jerry


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4151
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 08/30/93  2:10a
Subj: Re: LIMITED SUPPLY                      Refer: NONE
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>>    Boris,

>>    don't forget that those cd players are also windows NT
>>    compatable.  am using my 83 with it very nicely, which would
>>    validate the 73 also.  later,


>>    Ed Duchek

Yes, as well as a lot of other nice features as well, that's why all
150 unit's sold in two days. Hopefully we'll have some more come in soon!

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4152
  To: CRAIG EDON                               Date: 08/30/93  2:10a
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD                             Refer: NONE
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>>    On 08-26-1993, BORIS OSADCIW expounded to all that would
>>    listen, certain words of wisdom concerning OS/2 CD...

BO>> Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the
BO>>  rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom
BO>>  line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65.

>>    Isn't the rebate only for registered users of 2.0?

Not according to what they told us at IBM.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4153
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/30/93  2:10a
Subj: Re: U.S. Mail                           Refer: NONE
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BO>>are received within the two or three day period. Although this is not a
BO>>guareented service, it still works faster and for less the UPS or FED EX.

>>    Yeah, as long as they don't LOSE the darn package, like
>>    they've done with mine several times.  At least with UPS or
>>    Fedex you have automatic insurance coverage.  8)

This is true, but we place insurance on all pakages no matter how small
the amount is. It still cost less and shipping is still faster than
UPS ground.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4154
  To: BILL WOLF                                Date: 08/30/93  2:10a
Subj: Re: Clip Art                            Refer: NONE
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>>    I'm looking for a CD-ROM full of Clip Art (for like Pagemaker,
>>    MS Word, etc..) as well as a good collection of TrueType fonts.

>>    If anyone knows of any collections such as the above, please
>>    let me know. I'm looking for a collection for a small DTP
>>    business.

Bill, we have several in stock, so please feel free to give us a call
at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll even happy to assist you further.

Some even come with manuals.....

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4155
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93  2:10a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
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  ))))))))))))))  NEW SHAREWARE CD - SHAREWARE EXPLORER (((((((((((((((((

 4 discs w/over 26,000 files 3 of which are completely DOS based files
 4th disc is completely Windows 3.0/3.1 files w/over 7000 - BBS Ready
 Mostly 1992/1993 files - Less than 1% duplication between the 4 cd's
                            Price - $55.00

         Call us at 800-243-0517 and ORDER YOUR COPY TODAY !!
Or call us at 216-225-3263 anytime for additional information on this
and 500+ other CDROM titles and CDROM systems.


Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4156
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93  2:10a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
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 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

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From: CHARLES ROBERTS                        Number: 4157
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93 10:54p
Subj: Cd's For sale                           Refer: NONE
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Desert Storm  $20   Future Wars  $15   Multimedia Mania w/book  $20
 
     Call (904) 939-9611 if interested, ask for Gerald

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From: JAMES TOPPER                           Number: 4158
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/29/93  6:08p
Subj: CDROM question                          Refer: NONE
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   Doug, I've been noticing that you post listings for CDORMs on a regular
basis.  I have a question for you... I have an Amiga 3000 that has a CDROM
drive  attached.  Besides that Aminet disk you list, are there any other
CDROMs that I might be able to access?  Things like clip art disks or disks
with ASCII text files on them... just wondering.

                                                   Jim

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From: ERIC MIYAZAWA                          Number: 4159
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93 12:35a
Subj: Cd-rom for sale!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am selling the updated (latest version) CD-ROM of Multimedia Microsoft Word
for Windows, Bookshelf, Video and Sound.  It normally sells near $600 I
believe, but I'm selling it new, unopened for $275 or best offer! Write back if
interested.


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From: JIM REED                               Number: 4160
  To: TIGER MOSES                              Date: 08/26/93  9:47p
Subj: Cd\upload probs                         Refer: NONE
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TM>This actually could be quite simple.
TM>When preparing for an upload, you software needs to know a source of files,
TM>probably checks what all drives are available as sources of files.  When
you
TM>load your drivers for thge CD it becomes a drive (mine is J:) for example.
TM>This status check probably stop the reading (playing music).  It probably
th
TM>simple, hopefully!

Hi Tiger;
        Thanks for the reply.  Your explanation sounds right on - the
        music stops exactly as the upload manager in telix is reading
        the drives.  Now, the next question is can you or anyone suggest
        a solution?  I just went through the entire telix configuration
        looking for something that might solve this and saw nada.  The
        default upload directory is set to C:\DL while the CD is drive
        E so it must be something more than that.  If you can't think of
        anything maybe I'll post this in the telix conf.

                        THanks
                                /JIM/
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From: DAVID HEYDRICK                         Number: 4161
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/30/93  3:43p
Subj: Re: Special Interest                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

}}}}}} On 08-27-93  20:48 Jim said to David {{{{{{
 JL> I have a couple different titles you may be interested in.  Give me a
 JL> call and we can discuss the details.  Both titles sell for $39 each. 
 JL> 
 JL> Computer Works 
 JL> CD-Rom Sales!                                           Jim... 
 
      Jim,
           Now if I can just remember what you are replying to,
           its been some time since I have posted in this Echo.

                                        __David
 
 JL> (205) 793-4481 Voice 
 JL> (205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders 


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4162
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/30/93  8:52p
Subj: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUEAUT                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Great, Mike!  I'll look forward to receiving them.  I've even noticed that
there have been some new titles since I wrote to you!  Gimme a "head's up" if
you want to include the "multimedia" titles - I'll need to run out and get a
sound card.  Otherwise, just stick to the "picture" CDs.

Yes, put me down for a BB when you get some.  I want my collection to be
complete. Cheers!

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From: RICK KOEHL                             Number: 4163
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93  2:12p
Subj: Al-Qadim                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Greetings, All!
        This is quite a busy conference.  The mail is extraordinary.  I don't
see how it could all be read even daily in a practical means.  I must assume
that whoever reads this has found it by its subject and are therefore
interested in Al-Qadim.  The only way one could weed their way through all
this is by following a string and I decided to start an Al-Qadim string.
        Now that one has been started, I have been a DM for 13 years, and have
maqnage a Play By E-Mail campaign before, and I am willing to start another
one here if at least four people show a willingness to participate as PCs. 
The particular adventure I would run would resemble Sinbad of the Seven Seas.
        As a side note, if anyone wishes to consult the experience of a player
from way back - I am 33, married with a son, and part of a group of players
who each have as many years as I in the world's greatest game.
        Hope to hear from you soon!
Rick Koehl, A.K.A. Mystic Warrior!
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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 4164
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/30/93 11:59a
Subj: CD-ROM MASTER LIST 1/2                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HI Mike,  OK.  I'll call you voice probabbly before you get this message... Or
I guess if you don't get a call you'll have my money order in two weeks,  I
guess I'll call you first though,

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4165
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93  4:13p
Subj: Review of Southern Beauties             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ADDENDUM: 
I forgot to mention in my review that the 237 Targa files are duplicates  of
GIF files found in other directories. This has the effect of lowering  the
number of UNIQUE image files to 766. Personally, I didn't find this  all that
significant because the Targa files serve to give the user an  accurate
comparison of 256 colors vs. so-called "true color". Unlike the  Targa files on
Pork-Ware 1 which showed little difference with 256-color  conversions of the
same file, SB's 24-bit files are noticeably better  than their corresponding
256-color twins. This may be because the GIF  files lack something, but I think
a better explanation is that the 24-bit  files have something extra.  In any
event, I wanted to set the record  straight. If you like to fool with 24-bit
color, copy one of the Targa  files to you rHDD and have at it - just don't
violate the GIoF copyright  by sending it somewhere else. Ciao! 
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: SIR ARIOCH                             Number: 4166
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/31/93  4:20a
Subj: CD-list                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   I was wondering if I too can get a catalog sent, I am desperately looking
for ShareWare and Adult CDs for my BBS...The address is

                    Kelley Wright
                    6100 Oakland Hills Dr. #714
                    Ft.Worth Tx  76112

Thank you..

Kelley Wright


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From: GARY KIMBRELL                          Number: 4167
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/31/93 12:33a
Subj: RE: Info Needed                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> You were well informed.  8)  We have over 325 titles now in stock at very
> decent prices, with new material arriving daily.  If you would like a copy
> of our updated catalog, you can freq STARCAT.ZIP from 1:3407/101, or
> download it from our BBS @ 509-457-0206.  If there are any questions I
> can answer for you, don't hesitate to call our voice line @ 509-457-2892.
> 
> Later,
> .\\ike

Mike,

 Glad that I got ahold of you about those CD's. Thanks for warning me about
the ADULT CD's that are not BBS.ready. You might want to include that
statement next to the CD's that you post. Again looking forward to the CD's
and doing business with you again. I will FREQ the STARCAT.ZIP later
tonight.

Gary
NEC3657

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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 4168
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93  8:57a
Subj: Night Owl's Graphics!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                         The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 1-800-289-1ROM  FAX: (314) 521-7453
        $39.00         International 314-521-4862     $39.00
                     NEW NIGHT OWL'S GRAPHICS DISK!

Night Owl's Graphics Disk has just been released.  Everyone has been
waiting for a new graphics disk for their bbs or personal collection...
and here you are!  This is over 600 megs of the finest GIF photos
available on the market today!

     - Completely BBS ready!
     - MANY MANY MANY HI-REZ GIFS
     - Complete descriptions
     - Built in Search/Retrieve and viewing capabilities
     - NO ADULT FILES (Actually... nothing even "R")

                                   $39.00

                         Don't miss this one folks!
                           IN STOCK AND SHIPPING!
*********************************************************************
   VISA          1 - 8 0 0 - 2 8 9 - 1 R O M        MASTERCARD
                   ---- 100s of Titles Available ----



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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 4169
  To: PAUL ELLIOTT                             Date: 09/01/93  4:09p
Subj: News, Weather and Sports                Refer: 7471
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Sysops, You Can Now Carry Current News on Your BBS. For .50 per Day.
-> All News is updated each morning. In depth, accurate articles from se
-> international sources.

Paul, this is the CDROM_SALE echo...

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 4170
  To: TIM SCHOOLER                             Date: 09/01/93  4:22p
Subj: Related ?                               Refer: 7537
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->  JS> Related ?
->
->  JS> Jim Schooler
->  JS> 1:102/910
->
-> Sent you netmail Jim, did you get it ?

Please don't use this echo to exchange personal mail...

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 4171
  To: MARK LONG                                Date: 09/01/93  4:24p
Subj: Re: Pro-Phone 93 Crosspos               Refer: 7542
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Thanks for the warning.  I was going to get it but I cant see how it
-> do what it advertises.  The company I work for uses the commercial NY
-> disk system.  But its just for the east coast.  However, its based on
-> cdroms that are the size of video laser disks.  Its accurate but expe

For $100.00 Prophone is a hell of a buy... If it was 100% accurate, none
of us could afford it!

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 4172
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/01/93  4:32p
Subj: Review: Southern Beauties               Refer: 7567
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->    and get SB. BTW: Add a seat belt to the chair in front of your PC
->    before you start - you'll need it!

Good job, Bob...

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 4173
  To: RICK KOEHL                               Date: 09/01/93  4:41p
Subj: Al-Qadim                                Refer: 7612
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->         This is quite a busy conference.  The mail is extraordinary.
-> see how it could all be read even daily in a practical means.  I must
-> that whoever reads this has found it by its subject and are therefore
-> interested in Al-Qadim.  The only way one could weed their way throug

That's a pretty smooth lead in... One of the reasons why this echo is so
popular is because everyone stays on topic.  You need to do the same.

tim
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4174
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 08/30/93  8:47p
Subj: FLD                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <08-24-93 11:34> Jerry Murphy wrote:

JM>> It's amazing how much more headway you can make when you stop
JM>> dragging a sea anchor around.  Carry on!

....and boy are we :)

JM>> The various registration slips I've sent you have still not resulted
JM>> in a mailing back to me.  This is a "heads up" that another is
JM>> underway.

Don't have specifics yet, because we are working on 3 projects at the same
time--You should be hearing from us in the next 3 weeks or so--

Busty Babes Vol II is on the drives--She will be released in the market in
September--

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4175
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 08/30/93  8:50p
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <08-23-93 08:23> Mark Walker wrote:

MW>>  LN> SHOWOFF is our baby now in this industry, and you will see
MW>>  LN>     her on our 2 disc's coming out in September--

MW>> Some details please ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^???

Whatcha' want to know, and I will fill your ears :)

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4176
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 08/30/93 10:17p
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <08-24-93 04:04> Mark Walker wrote:

MW>> Are these all going to be BBS ready? If so, can ya speed up the
MW>> release  schedule <grin>?

Texas Glamour and Passion will be BBS ready, and we are negotiating for BB II
for the sysops--The BB V II is up in the air and leaning towards 'No" but thats
only the first round-Maybe I can get a "yes"--I hate not getting my way:)

BB V II will be released in September for sure--The covers are being done as we
speak.

The others are for Oct-Dec releases--

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4177
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 08/30/93 11:22p
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <08-24-93 04:04> Mark Walker wrote:

MW>> Are these all going to be BBS ready? If so, can ya speed up the
MW>> release  schedule <grin>?

Busty Babes Vol II, will be licensed collections and we just got the 'Okay' to
allow them to be BBS ready for the sysops (learning curve for
photographers)--This disc is 1,000 images, original slides, superb scanning
(only because we had a Fortune 500 company do it), and the cover is sure to be
a favorite amongst the connessieurs <sp>--Our best yet. We cut *NO* corners,
and continue to strive to be the best we can be.

We expect it to go to press by 15 September---We are giving sysop pricing's as
we promised in several interviews at BBScon '93--

Call and reserve yours now--

Lion's Den International, Inc.

(904)789-8101 Voice
(904)789-8170 Fax

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: HAWKEYE                                Number: 4178
  To:                                          Date: 08/31/93  1:50a
Subj: cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

to all
would not mind that cd Street Atlas, but you'll have to come down a little on 
price, look around a little.........


?

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From: ZACHARY HAMM                           Number: 4179
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/28/93 10:28a
Subj: MS WORKS FOR SALE                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FOR SALE

Microsoft Works for Windows on CD-ROM!!  1993 Multimedia version.
Includes Word Processor, Spreadsheet and Database.  Sorry, no
documentation available.


$75.00
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From: STEPHEN DURFEE                         Number: 4180
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/31/93 12:35a
Subj: <><> CD-ROM SOFTWARE - LOW PRICES <><>  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            <<<<<<< Allegro Computer Services >>>>>>                           
  
                    Raleigh, North Carolina
                    Tel: 919.571.8991 (24 hours)
                    Fax: 919.571.8938 (24 hours)
                    Internet: 71155.2711@compuserve.com
                    CompuServe: 71155,2711
                    POC: Stephen Durfee
 
* Your mail-order software source      
* Optional installation and on-site delivery  (Raleigh area)
* LOW prices - contact us on your next inquiry 
* Other services available: 
  
  (International) Resumes 
  (Raleigh)       Hardware Repair, Network Installation, etc.
 
PLEASE CALL, FAX OR E-MAIL FOR LATEST PRICES AND MEDIA/VERSION INFORMATION.
LEGITIMATE QUOTES FROM OTHER DEALERS ARE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
 
                Sample Software Product List
                ----------------------------
 
** SALE on integrated packages such as Microsoft Office. ** 
         **  See INTEGRATED section for prices. **
 
ACCOUNTING & FINANCE
 
DacEasy Accounting 4.3 (DOS)            $  93 
Money 2.0 (WIN)                            23
Peachtree Complete 7.0 (DOS)              184
Quicken 2.0 (WIN)                          41
Quicken 6.0 (DOS)                          43
Quicken Business Pack (DOS)                56
 
BUSINESS GRAPHICS
 
CA-Cricket Paint (WIN)                     89
CA-Cricket Presents 1.5 (WIN)              89
Freelance Graphics 2.01 (WIN)             349
Harvard Graphics 1.00 (WIN)               373
Harvard Graphics 3.0 (DOS)                419
Powerpoint 3.0 (WIN)                      323
WordPerfect Presentation (DOS)            301
 
COMMUNICATIONS
 
Carbon Copy 6.1 (2 node) (DOS)            132
Laplink Pro 5.0 (DOS)                     111
PC Anywhere 1.0 (2 node) (WIN)            132
Procomm Plus 1.02 (WIN)                   100
Procomm Plus 2.01 (DOS)                    73
Winfax Pro 3.0 (WIN)                       85
 
DATABASE
 
Access 1.1 (WIN)                          324
CA-Clipper 5.2 (DOS)                      495
CA-Db Fast 2.0 (WIN)                      184
dbase IV 2.0   (DOS)                      540
Filemaker Pro 2.0 (WIN)                   124
Foxpro 2.5 (WIN)                          320
Paradox 1.0 (WIN)                         133
Paradox 4.0 (DOS)                         534
 
GRAPHICS & DESKTOP PUBLISHING
 
Corel Draw 3.0 (WIN)                      136
Corel Draw 4.0 (WIN)                      398
Pagemaker 5.0  (WIN)                      581
Publisher 2.0 (WIN)                        93
Ventura Publisher 4.1 (WIN)               525
 
GROUP & INFORMATION MANAGEMENT
 
Act! 1.1 (WIN)                            261
Calendar Creator Plus 1.0 (WIN)            42
Lotus Organizer 1.0 (WIN)                  99                 
Project 3.0 (WIN)                         449
On Target (DOS)                            87
Pack Rat 5.0 (DOS)                        240
Timeline 1.0 (WIN)                        453
 
INTEGRATED
 
Borland Office 1.0 (WIN)                  388
Claris Works 1.0 (WIN)                     95
Lotus Smart Suite 2.0 (WIN)               433
Microsoft Office 3.0 (WIN)                455
Microsoft Works 2.0 (WIN)                 132
WordPerfect Works 1.0 (DOS)                99
 
NETWORKS
 
Lantastic AI 5.0 (DOS)                     83
Lantastic AI 5.0 (WIN)                     83
Novell Netware 3.11 5-user                593
Novell Netware 3.11 20-user              1727
Novell Netware 4.01 5-user                921
Novell Netware 4.01 25-user              3068
Windows for Workgroups (1 user) 3.1       166
[add on for users of MS Windows 3.1]       66
[2-user starter kit with SW and HW]       452
 
OPERATING ENVIRONMENTS & SYSTEMS
 
IBM OS/2 2.1                              154
MS-DOS 6.0 Upgrade                         87
MS Windows 3.1                             97
MS Windows NT 3.1                         324
 
PROGRAMMING
 
Borland C++ 3.1 (WIN)                     343
Turbo C++ 3.1 Visual Edition (WIN)         79
Turbo Pascal 7.0 (DOS)                    108
Visual Basic 3.0 Professional (WIN)       258
Visual Basic 3.0 Standard (WIN)           132
Visual C++ 1.0 Professional (WIN)         326
Visual C++ 1.0 Standard (WIN)             132
MS Windows 3.1 SDK (WIN)                  234
 
SPREADSHEETS
 
CA-Compete (WIN)                          331
Excel 4.0  (WIN)                          312
Lotus 1-2-3 4.0 (WIN)                     319
Quattro Pro 1.0 (WIN)                      99
 
UTILITIES
 
After Dark 1.0 (DOS)                       30
After Dark 2.0 (WIN)                       30
Dashboard 2.0 (WIN)                        45
Far Side Daily Planner 2.0 (WIN)           40
Norton Desktop 2.2 (WIN)                  118
Norton Utilities 7.0 (DOS)                118
PC Tools 1.0 (WIN)                        125
PC Tools Deluxe 8.0a (DOS)                125
QEMM 386 7.01 (DOS)                        62
Stacker 3.1 (DOS/WIN)                      97
Xtree Gold 3.0 (DOS)                       99
Xtree 2.0 (WIN)                            65
 
WORD PROCESSING


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From: STEPHEN DURFEE                         Number: 4181
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/31/93 12:35a
Subj: <><> CD-ROM SOFTWARE - LOW PRICES <><>  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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Ami Pro 3.0 (WIN)                          247
Word 2.0c (WIN)                            314
WordPerfect 5.2 (WIN)                      301
WordPerfect 6.0 (DOS)                      286
 
<<<<< CD-ROM SOFTWARE >>>>> 
 
Animals, The (MPC)                          57
Book of Lists #3                            57
Bookshelf 1993 (WIN)                       129
Cinemania (WIN)                             54
Compton's Family Encyclopedia              145
Electronic Home Library                     51
Encarta 1992 MM Encyclopedia (WIN)         258
Guiness MM Disk of Records 1993             57
Jazz: A MM History                          44
Library of the Future, 1st edition          94
Library of the Future, 2nd edition         184
Multimedia Beethoven 1.1                    55
Multimedia Dinosaurs 1.0                    55
Multimedia Mozart 1.0                       55
Multimedia Stravinsky 1.0                   55
Musical Instruments 1.0                     55
Oxford English Reference Library            94
Science in Motion 1.0                       46
Space in Motion 1.0                         46
Sports in Motion 1.0                        46
Sports Illustrated Almanac (MPC)            39
The Doctor's Book of Home Remedies          25
The KGB-CIA World Fact Book                 33
U.S. Atlas 3.0                              35
U.S. Presidents                             44
World Atlas 3.0                             51
 
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From: ZACHARY HAMM                           Number: 4182
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/31/93 12:59a
Subj: 7TH GUEST CD-ROM FOR SALE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FOR SALE



7th guest CD-ROM.  New in box with docs and VHS tape on how the game was
made.

$40.00 plus shipping.


Zack Hamm


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 4183
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 08/31/93  1:34p
Subj: some roms for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CDRoms for sale:

  Murmurs of Earth w/book            $30.00  Own a piece of Voyager
  ShareWare Heaven 1993              $27.00  600+ Megs of MSDOS/Win
  Hobbes OS/2  June 1993             $15.00  600+ Megs of OS/2
  Project Gutenberg  July 1993       $22.00  Tons of classic lit/history
  Source  March 1992                 $22.00  Tons of C code
  Garbo May 1992                     $15.00  600+ Megs of MSDOS/MAC
  Simtel MSDOS May 1993              $15.00  630+ Megs MSDOS
  Aminet June 1993                   $15.00  Hundreds of megs of Amiga
Postage and Insurance is $5.00 per order, 2nd day priority shipping.
I will ship COD.  Add $5.00 per order for COD charges.

Send checks/money orders to, and/or feel free to contact:

Eric Bravick
USF 3008
4202 E. Fowler Ave.
Tampa, FL. 33620-3008

(813) 979-1323 (Voice)
(813) 977-5212 (BBS)
Netmail 1:377/53.0


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From: MICHAEL OUJESKY                        Number: 4184
  To: ED JUNE                                  Date: 08/31/93  8:08p
Subj: OS/2 CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BO> Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail 
 BO> in the  rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from 
 BO> them, bottom  line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for 
 BO> only $65.

 CE> Isn't the rebate only for registered users of 2.0?


 EJ> Yes!
 EJ> You MUST send in your old proof of license from version 2.0

According to the form includd with OS/2 2.1 the rebate applies to _ANY_
previous version of OS/2.

Later...

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From: MOHIT GOYAL                            Number: 4185
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/31/93  8:05p
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>>>    On 08-26-1993, BORIS OSADCIW expounded to all that would
  >>>    listen, certain words of wisdom concerning OS/2 CD...

BO>BO>> Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the
  >BO>>  rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom
  >BO>>  line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65.

BO>>>    Isn't the rebate only for registered users of 2.0?

BO>Not according to what they told us at IBM.

They told you wrong.

The only people who can get the $30 rebate are owners of OS/2 2.0.

In addition to your receipt & registration for OS/2 2.1, you have to
send IBM your receipt or proof of licence for OS/2 2.0.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4186
  To: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN                        Date: 08/31/93  7:32p
Subj: BB                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CC> Mebbe not. But if somebody offered you $250 for it 
 CC> wouldn't you take it and laugh all the way to the 
 CC> bank?
 
Of course...but it is still ridiculous to pay that much for one adult CD.

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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 4187
  To: MARC GRANCOIN                            Date: 08/31/93 10:30p
Subj: To France                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Marc,

    The shipping would be $4.00 for France as well.


Valerie, CD-WORLD


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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 4188
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 08/31/93  8:30a
Subj: RE: Toshiba Q's                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I'm considering purchase of a Toshiba 3401 (internal) CD ROM drive and
>have some questions. Anyone with answers or comments, please jump in!
 
I bought the Toshiba 34019(internal) about a month ago,and so far haven't had
any problems.
 I got the CD-Rom,PAS16(sound card which CD-Rom can plug into) and the
kit(cable's,etc.) for $549. at CD-Rom Direct.
 
Their number is 1-800-332-2404.
 

                              Diana

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From: GLENN CAREY                            Number: 4189
  To: JAMES TOPPER                             Date: 08/31/93  8:22a
Subj: Re: CDROM question                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

James
you should be able to access any CD rom with GIFS or text files on it also
some of the font collections should work if you have the conversion
capabilities you can also access tiffs pcx and all the other graphic
formats


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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 4190
  To: GARY KELLISON                            Date: 08/30/93  8:01p
Subj: GREAT CHEAP CD                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> JH>Buy store near you.  This week ROM_Material is on sale for $9.97.

-> Wah!  This CD is from Moon Valley Software and cost me $15 at
-> Egghead. I thought I was getting a good deal 'cause it was $20 at
-> CompUSA.

Gary, I've enjoyed this one a bunch. I get a lot of double takes when 
people come by and see all the animated icons on my desktop going whiz-
bang.

$15 was a very good price and worth it. It was such a steal for $10 
that I couldn't pass it up.

James
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From: MOHIT GOYAL                            Number: 4191
  To: CHARLES ROBERTS                          Date: 08/31/93  9:17p
Subj: future wars                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CR>Desert Storm  $20   Future Wars  $15   Multimedia Mania w/book  $20

What did you think of Future Wars?  Did you ever play the floppy
version? 

I played & finished the floppy version.  I'm wondering how enhanced the
cdrom version is over the floppy one.

Thanks!
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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 4192
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 08/29/93  7:00p
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jeff Jenkins beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

JJ>Thanks for the offer, but Comptons Ency. is 49.00 new including shippi
JJ>if I buy it here... if you will go less, let me know.

Hi Jeff,

Are you talking about the Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia for Windows??
I haven't seen that for less than $249.00 or $129.00 for the upgrade. I'd
like to find it cheaper though.

Ron in Tampa


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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 4193
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/28/93  8:22a
Subj: Toshiba 3401B for SALE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello folks, I have a new Toshiba 3401B for sale.  200ms seek time and
330K transfer rate.  This is the fastest single disc drive you can buy!
Directly supported by OS/2 2.1 and is SCSI-2 so it will co-exist with
your other SCSI drives w/o problems.

$350.00 plus shipping.  415-586-8140.

 * KWQ/2 1.2a * If at first you don't succeed, put out another version (KWQ 1.2
.........


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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 4194
  To: J. ALLEN                                 Date: 08/31/93  7:02p
Subj: Re: Jem Disk CD-Rom Trade In Sale       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >MC> Send us your old CD-Rom (in good condition) and $14.95 and we'll send
 >MC> you Jem Disc I shareware CD-Rom collection.  Jem Disc was printed last
 >
 >MC> The current price without trade in is $19.95 plus S/H so this deal
 >MC> represents a savings of $10.  HURRY - offer ends 9/15/93!

 >I come up with $5.00.  How do you get to $10.00 savings?

Thanks for the mini consumer math lesson J, but my original post is correct.
Shipping and Handling is FREE if you take advantage of the trade-in special.
Since S/H is normally $5.00 and we took $5.00 off the price, that comes
exactly one Franklin!

If you or others are interested, FREQ JEMTRADE.ZIP, JEMDISC.ZIP and
(optionally) JEMFILES.ZIP from 1:203/49 or call 916-921-9949 and download
them from my logon matrix (enter JEM at the dos prompt).

Thanks!

Michael



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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4195
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 08/31/93 11:22p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 GE>    So what is the price?
 GE>  þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ Don't fight with ugly 
 GE> people.  They have nothing to los
 
Release 2.0 of the original version will be out again this month.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4196
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 08/31/93 11:25p
Subj: Night Owl Windows CD v1 P               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RH> Night Owl Graphics CD).  Why go with other dealers 
 RH> that sell a bazillion
 RH> other disks and are clueless about what is actually on Night Owl?  TCM
 RH> specializes in Night Owl; that is why TCM BBS is 
 
Because of pricing levels <g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4197
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/31/93 11:26p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BR> As to whether or not only idiots can make money running a BBS,
 BR> you need to be introduced to Rusty & Eddy's and Event Horizons,
 BR> to name a few.  As it is so difficult to make money operating
 BR> a BBS, selling CDs can only help offset the costs.

Let's see....Rusty and Edie's got busted for distributing copyrighted software
and Event Horizon's got sued for distributing Playboy scans and I understand
Busty was in trouble also.  That must be the trick to making money with your
BBS, doing things illegally, huh??  <g d & r>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4198
  To: SHADOW SMITH                             Date: 08/31/93 11:29p
Subj: Looking for:                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SS> I'm looking for any of the 650MB movies on CD_ROM.  If you any, please
 SS> respond to this message.  Thanks!
 
We have a great selection of them....any particular interests?

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4199
  To: PHILIP POLSTRA                           Date: 08/31/93 11:30p
Subj: Aviation CD                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PP> I'm looking for something I can put on my BBS for 
 PP> download.  I don't think aircraft encylcopedia fits 
 PP> the bill.  BBS # is 317-583-0732.

I have not seen one that suits those requirements for BBS use...

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4200
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 08/31/93 11:31p
Subj: Busty Babes v1.0r                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SG> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 SG> +++++++++++++++++++++I WILL GO $ 260.00
 SG> YOU CAN FAX ME AT 1-602-292-0497 FOR MY ADDRESS AND MORE INFO
 
Don't waste your money....the second release of it will be out again this
month......we're taking pre-orders for it.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4201
  To: JASON SCHWARTZ                           Date: 08/31/93 11:32p
Subj: PC-SIG                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Go for Nightowl....don't waste your time with PC Sig...

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4202
  To: VICTOR EMOND                             Date: 08/31/93 11:35p
Subj: Re: 6 Cdrom Changer                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 VE> Being that you sell the Pioneer 6CD changer could you give a price on
 VE> the DMR600 and the DMR604X. I'm looking to buy either one. Also do you
 VE> do COD's or credit cards.
 
We sell the 600A for $829 plus shipping.....800-547-7817 to order....credit
cards accepted.  Discount applicable for cash purchase.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4203
  To: DOUG SNELL                               Date: 08/31/93 11:37p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > only please.  Thank you!
 DS> What make BB #1 so valuable?

It has copyrighted scans on it...

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4204
  To: DAVID NGHIEM                             Date: 08/31/93 11:38p
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DN> I am wondering.  WHat does "wife-proof" mean in an 
 DN> adult-cd-rom?  I have
 DN> seen that before in ads.

It would be like Ecstasy Hot Pics....it just says EHP on it, so the wife
couldn't tell it was an adult CD <g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4205
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/31/93 11:42p
Subj: BUSTY BABES RELEASE 2.0 CDROM IS BACK   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  * *  B U S T Y  B A B E S  * *  RELEASE 2.0  * * IS BACK!! * *
   Will be re-released in September.  We are taking pre-orders.
        The Price - $36.95.  We will meet any price on it.
 
Features:  675+ MB of Erotica Viewing Pleasure - 1,000 Copyrited
           High Resolution VGA/SVGA Pics including the Busty Babes
           Fully BBS Ready with text files in Files.BBS format
           New Show Off Interface with easy menu installation
 
PCJ Computing-Voice 615-339-0235/Fax 615-479-1047/Orders 800-547-7817

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From: TYRONE THOMASON                        Number: 4206
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/30/93  7:52p
Subj: Missing Order                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike, could you check on my order.  It's been over 10 days and still no
disc.  It's under the name of Walter Thomason (I am known better by my
middle name).  By the way, It is I who asked about being charged $88 for
Precision Mapping and $28 for NightOwl 9.0.  Is the caddy trade-off a
deal?

           Ty.

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From: RAY MATTHEWS                           Number: 4207
  To: DAVID NGHIEM                             Date: 08/31/93  5:14p
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* in a message to Tony Miles <29 Aug 93 01:51> David Nghiem wrote:

 >DN> 101 GL, DL movies
 >DN> No descriptions
 >DN> Not wife-proof
 >DN> Published in February 93

 DN> I am wondering.  WHat does "wife-proof" mean in an adult-cd-rom?  I have
 DN> seen that before in ads.

    A 'wife proof' disc has nothing on the disc itself that would indicate that
it contains 'adult' material. For example, the Asian Ladies disc only has a
large "AL" on the disc. Without running it, there is no way to tell that it
contains explicit pics.
    Many wives do not approve of this kind of material for whatever reason, so
this is just one way of having it without having to hide it somewhere.
---
 * Origin: Oh no! My tagline is  umop apisdn!    73 de N9LHF (RA 1:2270/233.30)
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4208
  To: VICTOR EMOND                             Date: 08/31/93 11:48p
Subj: Re: 6 Cdrom Changer                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Being that you sell the Pioneer 6CD changer could you give a
>>    price on the DMR600 and the DMR604X. I'm looking to buy either
>>    one. Also do you do COD's or credit cards.

The DMR600 is priced at $799. and the DMR604X is priced at $1199.

If you need further assistance, please feel free to give us a call at
216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Mail Media. Do not expose to Flames!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4209
  To: RON RICHMOND                             Date: 09/01/93  1:44a
Subj: Re: Canadian sales                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    To ALL.
>>          I had ordered Busty Babes vol.2 from Dave and it was
>>       held at the border. The P.O. would not return it to Dave
>>       and when I called Fed.Ex they estimated $24 to $36 Can.
>>       depending on actual weight,to send it back. Estimated only,
>>       because I cannot get the disk to them from Customs.and they
>>       would have to pick it up at the P.O. I chose to abandon the
>>       disk, as this would be almost as much as the original cost.
>>       Customs would not tell me which disks would be stopped.
>>       Canadians would be well advised to order from Vince and
>>       Michellea Sorensen. Ron.

We have shipped hundreds of adult cd's to Canada and never had a problem
with customes. In fact, we just shipped a major order to Ontario and the
customer received it with ease and NO CUSTOM FEE's.

I guess it's all in the way you ship your products and or handle the
matterial.

On another note, customes will ship the package back if it is so stated
on the package. Even if it is not allowed to enter the country, it will be
returned to the shipper at his/her expense. This again is only true if the
shipper has stated this on the package.

Just a few cents worth......

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4210
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93  1:44a
Subj: TOSHIBA CDROM SPECIAL                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% TOSHIBA 3401 CDROM Player %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

      200ms access time - 330kps transfer rate w/ 1.2meg burts mode -
      Novell - OS/2 - Windows compatiable - Mutli-spin - Multisession
      Kodak approved - caddy system.
      Internal Bare Drive - $389. - Bare = Drive, caddy and manual
      External Bare Drive - $489. - Same as above
     Pro Studio 16 with above purchase only $225. while supply lasts
                  Media Vision Upgrade Kit - $25.00
 ORDER LINE ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759



Boris Osadciw

... Mail Media. Do not expose to Flames!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4211
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93  1:44a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Panasonic 561 Int Kit   - $289.00         Phillips Ext kit refur $195.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1199.
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $389.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$489.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         Mitsumi w/Sound Card - $325.00
 Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50.  ALL ChestNuts CD's $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4212
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93  1:44a
Subj: NEW CDROMS                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

)))))))))))))))))))))) H O T  N E W  C D ' S ((((((((((((((((((((((

Dr. Music - Music Editors, MOD, MIDI, ROL, SND, VOC, WAV and more!
Dr. Shareware - 615 megs of shareware programs and utilities!
Dr. Games - 600+ megs of Adventure, Arcade, Card, Sports and more!
Dr. Windows - 3,440 files of window programs and utilities!
                          All BBS READY !!
               Price - $59.00 for all 4 or $20.00ec

ORDER LINE ONLY - 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 4213
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/30/93  7:15p
Subj: OS/2                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Boris!

Sunday August 29 1993, Boris Osadciw writes to All:

 BO> ==================== OS2 ON CD For Only $65.00 ? ====================
 BO>                               IN STOCK
 BO>  Until Septemeber 14, 1993 you can purchase the complete OS/2 v2.21
 BO>  package, which offer's you the installation disks, cd, manuals and
 BO>  other special discounts for only $65.00!

When did OS/2 v2.21 come out?  I thought I was running the latest version
(v2.1).  ;-)



... Clinton Cruise Lines - Taking America for a Ride!

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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 4214
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93  5:24p
Subj: Flash!                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     This is why you need a CD-ROM:

     "InterOptica's Astonishing Asia CD-ROM features scenes of

     Thai transvestites, roast dog barbecues, and this talented

     Chines snake performer coaxing two live snakes in through

     His nose and out his mouth."

     415-788-8788

     Found on page 500 of the September 14, 1993 issue of PC Magazine.

     *:o)


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 4215
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/31/93 12:43a
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->   >Thats alright but if you know any one wants one give them my numbe
->   >512-939-9822, Thanks!
->
-> Sure thing.  It's funny how these things work.  I just got a copy of
-> Erotic Encounters 2, which is supposed to be banned in the USA.  I'll
-> bet millions of them will sell! <G>
->
->                                                         Jim...
->
-> --- FreeMail 1.08b
->  * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)
->
why is eroctic encounters supposed to be banned?


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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 4216
  To: RICHARD CAVIN                            Date: 08/29/93 10:15a
Subj: Re: disks for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Todd, are you interested in trading for Super Nintendo games and/or
-> Sega Genensis games. I've got several of each that i've finished and
-> am interested in all three of the above CDs.

   Well actually, Iwas looking to trade several of the titles for
a core system, either a S_Nintendo of a S_Genesis.

Have you got an extra you wanna trade ?

-Todd

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From: TONY MILES                             Number: 4217
  To: DAVID NGHIEM                             Date: 08/31/93 10:40a
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DN>DN> 101 GL, DL movies
  >DN> No descriptions
  >DN> Not wife-proof
  >DN> Published in February 93
 
DN>I am wondering.  WHat does "wife-proof" mean in an adult-cd-rom?  I have
  >seen that before in ads.
 
"Wife-proof" is a term used to describe the labeling of the discs. A
"wife-proof"  has a label which doesn't reveal the contents of the disc,
i.e. adult files, xxx graphics, etc.

--- TriDog 5.0
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4218
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93 11:16p
Subj: GREAT VALUE & SERVICE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   Canada's CD-ROM Source is...

                   CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA

               6 Armstrong Bay * Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7
               306-789-4654 Voice * 306-789-8690 Fax
                    VISA/MC/MO/Cheque Accepted

           New titles weekly! Call for current specials!
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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 4219
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/31/93 12:41p
Subj: Where are my CD's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi doug,  got my money order yet?  If so when did you get it, and when did you
mail my CD's?

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From: ANDREW SETO                            Number: 4220
  To: KEVIN RICH                               Date: 08/31/93 12:48p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Cd-Rom For Sa               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    It's internal and it does come with a controller.

andrew seto


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From: TRACY MOLITOR                          Number: 4221
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/31/93  9:40p
Subj: 6 Disc CDROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for a 6 disk CD-ROM Drive.   Anyone got one for sale?

                        =>  GALADRIEL  <=


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From: DAVID HARRISON                         Number: 4222
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/01/93  1:58a
Subj: Re: UPDATED ADULT CD PRICES             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey mike, seeing as you sale a high volume of CD's, I was wondering if you
or somebody else on this echo that has the data available could post a chart 
of dupes, sizes, percentages, ect. on maybe 4 or 5 of the top BBS-READY cd's 
on the market right now (along with their average price ranges)... 

The reason for this is becuase I am a sysop on the verge of making the move
to CD....  And I am sure there are 100s of sysops on this echo that would
like the same exact thing posted...

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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4223
  To: DAVID NGHIEM                             Date: 08/31/93  8:22p
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DN>I am wondering.  WHat does "wife-proof" mean in an adult-cd-rom?  I have
DN>seen that before in ads.

    Being a "wife" myself, I've had to avoid all these luscious-sounding
    CDs since I'd obviously be unable to use them. Geee... I guess that
    it means:

    1)  Females are physically or mentally unable to open the CD case?
    2)  Wives are obviously computer-phobes and wouldn't think to get
        a directory listing to see what's on the disk?
    3)  The lady of the house would only be incensed by such adult
        material, and therefore must be "protected" from it by having
        hubby hide the evidence?
    4)  Nobody but males read the CDROM ads and would ever realize that
        such trickery occurs...

    Maybe one of these days someone will come out with a good CD full of
    adult material for us ladies. And hopefully it'll be husband-proof.
    I'd hate for hubby to realize that I'm enjoying such things!  ;-)

    Just to keep this on track as a "For Sale" message... Does anyone
    know of an adult CD which is slanted toward females? Title and
    price, dealers?

- Heather
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From: RICHARD BUNTON                         Number: 4224
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/01/93  6:54a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*******  Original Msg. From: Boris Osadciw  To: All  *******
       
Boris...I'm afraid I got a little carried away this morning
while I was talking to you.

I would like to apologize for my actions. Just chalk it up
to frustration. If the discs come in today...all is forgiven. 

***** 
 **** ICHARD
** ** 

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From: DAN PROCIV                             Number: 4225
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  3:02a
Subj: RED HOT CDROM SPECIAL!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>>>>>>>THE CD-MACHINE "HOT" MONTHLY SPECIALS FOR SEPT 93<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

GAY WORLD 1....................69.00  GAY WORLD 2..................69.00
MANPOWER.......................69.00  HOT HUNKS....................69.00
GBL 1..........................69.00  BUSTY BABES..................27.00
ADULT REFERENCE LIBRARY........24.00  DIGITAL DREAMS...............29.00
STORM 1,2, AND 3.........ALL...60.00  PHYSICAL THERAPY.............25.00
PORK-WARE 1 OR 2...............32.00  SEEDYROM 1-6.............EA..25.00
TOTAL FANTASY..................28.00  VISUAL FANTASIES.............26.00
MOVING FANTASIES...............26.00  SOFTWARE VAULT 1 OR 2........21.00
VOLCANO........................28.00  KINGS QUEST V................25.00
NIX PIX HOT PIX 2,3,4,5.....EA.26.00  SMUTWARE.....................27.00
TRANZ..........................29.00  ECSTASY HOT PICS.............27.00
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
                      ORDERS (503)232-0292 (24 HRS)
                      BBS ONLINE (503)236-3266 (24 HRS)


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From: PIERRE DU PREEZ                        Number: 4226
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 08/29/93  3:00p
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jerry
 JM> Please e-mail me if you are still interested.
Thanks for your reply. Yes I am still interested. CD_Rom's are really
scarce here in South Africa. 
Can you please give me more info on the NEC. Possible to give me your
voice phone number.
Thanks in advance.
 
Regards,
Pierre

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From: JOHN DUIJS                             Number: 4227
  To: DAVID HEYDRICK                           Date: 08/29/93 11:49a
Subj: Gay Roms??                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dear David..

 >     Does anyone have any Gay type CD's?

 >     Or a CD that has Adult text files,
 >     perfer gay or BI.

'Hip, hip, hurrah!' I thought, before I discovered the question marks. Yes, I
happen to have one called 'GBL .GIF Files of Alternative Lifestyles Volume I'
(which is a title I am not too happy with as 'lifestyle' has become a political
buzzword on your side of the pond).

It is distributed by PC Info Systems, P.O. Box 23591, Columbus,OHIO 43223 and
has a 'cover price' of US$ 199.00, -though I bought it over here, in the
Netherlands, for Hfl. 129,- (ca. US$ 75.00) including S&H and 17.5% Sales Tax.

I still must send in the enclosed Registration Card to the Warranty
Registration Center at the same P.O. Box, now at OH. 43223-0591. Let's hope Ole
Man River or one of its tributaries have not flooded them in the meantime.

The contents are:
     \BBS_LIST                          1 Files      25,011 Bytes
Not that useful to me, and a bit dated anyway..

     \BI_MEN                          259 Files  53,761,458 Bytes
     \BI_WOMEN                        303 Files  63,062,393 Bytes
Don't see much difference between the categories. Guess their can't be..

     \GAY_1                           364 Files  38,783,914 Bytes
     \GAY_2                           299 Files  27,382,752 Bytes
The larger files, many very good and clear, some smallish. Not much 'action', I
mean 'guys at it' in twos or more. Not many 'specialty' things like leather,
S&M, spanking, etc. Not much of that overall, anyway.(Not that I want it,
either..)

     \GAY_LOW                         173 Files   3,646,207 Bytes
     \GAY_MAC                         193 Files   4,875,038 Bytes
'LOW' are low byte size and low density. Some good, nevertheless. Blowing them
up even may give a decent Windows SVGA Wallpaper. Many, however, rather poor. A
number are duplicates of GAY_1 and GAY_2. The 'MAC' things are in black and
white, some Tom of Finland and similar drawings and cartoons, a lot of rather
primitive scans e.g. from Play Girl.

     \GAY_TEXT                        155 Files   3,256,828 Bytes
Lots of short stories, many of them very readable, and one or two novellas,
consisting of some twenty separate files. Almost every variation you can dream
of seems covered, including bondage etc.

     \LEZ_1                           193 Files  38,047,887 Bytes
     \LEZ_2                           125 Files  44,724,213 Bytes
Bein' a GWM, I have not looked through them very carefully..

     \MEN_1                            65 Files   9,810,595 Bytes
Lots of mostly All-American Male Beauty, well photographed for the most part.

     \TRANS                            19 Files   2,625,650 Bytes
This isn't my taste either.

     \VIEWERS                          15 Files   1,177,050 Bytes
     \VPIC                             48 Files     257,960 Bytes
     \WOMEN_1                         282 Files  55,364,984 Bytes

Total Files ->2,494  Total Bytes ->346,801,940

As this is Volume I, maybe there will be, or already is, a Volume II or even
III. It should be noted that it is not 'BBS ready', as in most categories
FILES.BBS or _dirlist is absent, and in some the wrong ones are provided.

Hoping to have been of some help...

Greetinx.

JOHN

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4228
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/31/93  9:52p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUEAUT            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Mike Shannon <08-30-93 20:52> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> Yes, put me down for a BB Vol II when you get some.

Hehehehe, your gonna like this disc :) It will be on the streets in Septemeber
for sure--

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 4229
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93 10:28a
Subj: Busty Babes?                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can someone tell me why the price is going so high on the ver1 BB cd? I have a
BB cd, and am wondering how to find what version it is?

CJK

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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4230
  To: PAUL DIESTELHORST                        Date: 08/31/93  8:43p
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hey, where can I get a copy of Busty Babes and how much?
Hi Paul!
   From us for $25 Canadian or $19US. S/H $2. Our number is
306-789-4654!
   .\\ichellea
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From: SHAHBAZ CHAUDHARY                      Number: 4231
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93  6:27p
Subj: cd-rom needed                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hello every one, i am looking for a cd-rom.  the cd-rom must ready to
go, (i am not an expert at cd-roms, so i want all the cards, wires,
every-thing.)  it should cost around $100.  and it should be able to run
most of the cd's(I already have the drivers, provided by the windows, i
bought my computer from gateway 2000, so if there is any thing else i
need please let me know.  once again around 100 dollars, please respond.
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From: THOMAS NUFER                           Number: 4232
  To: DAVID BURKE                              Date: 08/31/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: 82% Match                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Then you should start one( CdRom areas ) and be the modulator!

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 4233
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/30/93  5:12a
Subj: Busty Babes for sale/trade              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PAT- I HAVE A NEW 386DX40 MOTHERBOARD WITH 256K CACHE
WOULD TRADE FOR YOUR BB VOL.1
YOU CAN FAX ME AT 1-602-292-0497 OR LEAVE A MESSAGE

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From: JOHN PRITCHARD                         Number: 4234
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/31/93  9:18p
Subj: OMNI CD drive                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Does anyone have experiance with the C.L. OMNI CD-ROM drive?
 
How is it?

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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 4235
  To: TOD CRAWFORD                             Date: 08/31/93  7:20a
Subj: Fate Of Atlantis                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Over heard something about fate of atlantis.  Don't mean to be nosy
but I've been looking for it for a while.  If you still have it leave
me a message and I'll send out the money.

michael hansen


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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 4236
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/31/93  7:50a
Subj: Indiana Jones Fate Of Atl               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for a copy of fate of atlantis on cd(might take disks).  Any
one out there with one they want to let go of write me or call
512-275-3273.   Hey you dealers out there let me know your prices too.

thanks a million!!!


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From: ALVIS COLLIER                          Number: 4237
  To: PAUL SEDILLO                             Date: 08/31/93  1:07p
Subj: -=- MONTHLY CATALOG -=-                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Paul please send catalog to address below, Thanks.


PS> PAUL SEDILLO -=- MONTHLY CATALOG -=- 
PS>  =-=                      The Storage Specialists                  
PS>  =-=   MONTHLY CATALOG OFFER   =-=  

   Al Collier [alc] - Colliers & Associates Automation
10 3rd St W,#B, Universal City,Tx,78148-5652 210-658-7331

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From: JERRY MASON                            Number: 4238
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93 12:05a
Subj: RE: Adult Cd For Trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

It just means that if your wife picks up the disc she won't know from it that 
you are a dirty old man, or a dirty young man.



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From: TIGER MOSES                            Number: 4239
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 09/01/93  1:48p
Subj: Cd\upload probs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Now I haven't ried this, so its just a guess.
Get the music going and get back to DOS,
use the assign command and make drive (E:) or whatever your CD is to another
drive.  Mine is J:, so somehting like ASSIGN J=C so maybe instead of hitting CD
it will hit a repeated Hard drive and shouldn't really affect anything.
If this works you owe me a Dr. Pepper!
* SPITFIRE v3.3
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 4240
  To: MIKE GUIDRY                              Date: 08/31/93 12:54p
Subj: MITSUMI                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> BN> Would anyone be kind enough to leave me a response on what
> BN> sound cards does mitsumi 350ms cd roms support?

>I don't know that it directly runs off of any

ATI FX/CD and one other that I know of (SOund Galaxy?)....


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From: MARC KULAK                             Number: 4241
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/01/93 10:21p
Subj: RED HOT                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Boris!

Sunday August 29 1993, Boris Osadciw writes to All:

 BO> $$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$
 BO>  ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec

What about From canada?  Could you send me something?? (Price List) As I am
becoming a distributer.

        Marc

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From: MARC KULAK                             Number: 4242
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93 10:28p
Subj: CDs                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

I am in Canada and would like Price List for People and COmpanies in the
States, I am a Distributer.  Please Mail me at

        Marc Kulak
        290 Binns Ave.
        newmarket, On
        L3X 1T6
        Canada

Marc

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From: MARK RICHARDSON                        Number: 4243
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93  1:43p
Subj: Cdrom games                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Hello all..
             I have recently bought a CD-ROM drive for my computer, and
 although it works fine, I am having a hard time playing Audio Cd's through
 the Cd-in jack on my SoundBlaster Pro.  What I want to know is, in computer
 cd-rom games such as 7th Guest, Wc2 CD, DOTT etc, must I have the cdrom going
to
 the SbPro directly or do cd games just access my SBPro the way regular
 games on the hard drive do?  any information Appreciated.

                                        Mark


>> Mark
... Drop your carrier ... we have you surrounded!
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From: ALBERT AFONSO                          Number: 4244
  To: SAL PEDONE                               Date: 09/01/93  4:07p
Subj: Mm encyclopedia                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Sal!

27 Aug 93 00:35, Sal Pedone wrote to Albert Afonso:

 SP>    I have an unopened copy of Comptons MM Ency for windows v1.01w...
 SP>    Asking $45 plus shipping...if interested give me a call or echo here

I was looking for v2.0 if I could find it. Anyway, how about $25+COD Shipping?
If you are intersted, let me know and I will send you my address.

Take care,

Albert Afonso

Fax      : (305)424-0465
Internet : albert@alpha.acast.nova.edu
Fidonet  : 1:369/83

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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 4245
  To: JASON SCHWARTZ                           Date: 08/30/93  3:37a
Subj: Disks for sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Is the 20th Century Almanac Price Negotable?

 I'd rather trade it for something you might have, send me a list
of disks you would trade for it!

                Todd

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4246
  To: MICHAEL INGRAM                           Date: 09/02/93  2:21a
Subj: Re: Pioneer DMR600                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Hey there Boris...

>>    Rumor has it you would be the man to talk to about obtaining a
>>    CD Changer from...I dont know a thing about setting that model
>>    up. I currently run 2 single roms on my bbs and wanna move up
>>    to "MORE DOWNLOADS!" <G>,  anyways...

God, I hate when that happens....

>>    Leave me a message on how to get a "complete" package for under
>>    DOS.  I am currently running a standard ISA system and would
>>    need a controller accordingly...

Your best value would be the DMR600, which is priced at $799. If you
don't have a SCSI based system, then you will need to get a SCSI
controller and the proper device drivers, which would run about $75. You
will also need a shielded cable ( since this is an external unit ), which
would cost another $25. This would give you everything you need to get the
system online, which would be $899. plus shipping. The only thing you
would need after that would be CD's, which we also carry at resonable prices
as well.

>>    I would also be intrested in any used units if they are
>>    available... Wouldnt have to be Pioneer...Just Complete
>>    Package and hold a lotta cd's!

The Pioneer is the only unit I could recommend at this point as it has been
a proven work horse on hundreds of BBS's all over the country. As for a used
unit, more often then not, many sysop's want to sell their old unit for
almost the same price as what we ask for a new one. Very few come across
here and the only reason is to upgrade to the 604X, but that's another story
for another message.

If you need further assistance, please feel free to give us a call at
216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Hope this helps...

Boris Osadciw

... Mail Media. Do not expose to Flames!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4247
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  2:21a
Subj: BUSTY BABE                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

)))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((

NOW IN STOCK  BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
bustiest babes in North America including  Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.

                      PRICE - $25.00

To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((



Boris Osadciw

... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: JIM CLEMENTS                           Number: 4248
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 09/01/93  7:04a
Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> No, and there apparently are no plans to do so for the indefinite fut
HP>That's funny, I was at a fair a couple days ago at a Britanica both, and
HP>they had it on CD-ROM there.

Henry, my understanding was that they were looking at cdrom, but
only selling it as a optional extra with the complete paper
encyclopedia. Can you tell us any more about it? Cheers!
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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 4249
  To: STEPHEN DURFEE                           Date: 09/01/93  5:17p
Subj: <> CD-ROM TITLES & MORE <>              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HI there, do you have 7th Guess, and how much is it?

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From: BOB FISCHER                            Number: 4250
  To: MIKE CICCOLINI                           Date: 09/01/93 10:40a
Subj: Re: Question About Cd-Rom               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Ciccolini to All <=-

 MC> I own a Sound Blaster, (not the PRO but the 1.5 non-stereo) and
 MC> was wondering if I bought a CD-ROM would installation be smooth
 MC> or would there be some problems with finding drivers or some

 I have a SB 1.5 (purchased used) and a Mitsumi dr ($175) and it works
 fine with WFW 3.1/Qemm 7.01.
 I added some leads from the RCA jacks on the I/F card to the input(s) to
 the audio amp on the SB, but it's very simple. I usually listen to CD
 audio while reading mail offline. I haven't tried/played any games with
 this set up, so perhaps some problems would be encountered. I understand
 some of the newer games available require faster CD access, direct input
 to the sound board, etc. For what I do, it has worked fine, and was
 least expensive. Bob f

 
... "Don't mince words, Mike ... what do you *REALLY* think?"
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From: BOB BREED                              Number: 4251
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93 12:00p
Subj: Repair/Upgrade Cd Drive?                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    I have an older Toshiba Model XM-3100B CD drive. While the 
specs show that it is fast enough for Multi-media service, that 
is it has a access time of 350 ms and throughput of 150 kbs, it 
lacks XA.
    Does anyone know if these drives can be up-graded simply. 
Perhaps by just changing out the ROM? Called the Toshiba people 
listed in my local phonebook, but they only know about TV sets 
etc. nothing about CD's.
    Also one other minor point. In the last few weeks, the drive 
busy light has been staying on after I load a disk. Most times I 
just reload, then it winks for a few seconds and goes out. It has 
been getting worse tho. Now about every third time I change disks 
the darn busy light stays on! Is this caused by a dirty lens? 
(Read somewhere that that is one of the symptoms of a dirty 
lens.) I've never used one of those disks to clean the lens...do 
they work, or just a waste of time?
    How about trade-in. Anyone out there willing to take this guy 
in trade for a later model with XA capability? Also might as well 
upgrade my sound board to a Pro-Audio 16. How much on a package 
deal for board, cables etc. Internal would be fine. Thanks for 
your help.

... What if I offer $1.00 (each) to a million wives for sex?
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From: MARK SMITKA                            Number: 4252
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/01/93  2:25p
Subj: Grammy cd                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike,

Have you got "The Grammy's" (Grammy Awards on CD)? If so, what're you asking
for it?
===
 -=(( Mark ))=--- Nervous: Asking what wine goes well with fingernails.

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From: SAL PEDONE                             Number: 4253
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 09/02/93 12:17a
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Thanks for the offer, but Comptons Ency. is 49.00 new including
-> shipping if I buy it here... if you will go less, let me know.

  Will go $40 shipped prepaid...Let me know...Sal
  912-956-5163  6pm-9pm EST


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From: MARTIN GOMEZ                           Number: 4254
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93 11:16p
Subj: CD-ROM Trade...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anybody interested in trading CD-rom games? I have:
1.Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego? DEluxe Edition
2.Mantis Experimental Fighter & Civilization(on same cd)
3.Battle Chess
       If interested, please E-mail me, or write back here.
       Martin Gomez

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From: STEVE KRUEGER                          Number: 4255
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  8:17a
Subj: Sony External CD Rom for Sale           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Practically Brand New (Built in 3/93)
Sony External SCSI model cdu-541-88
Kodac MultiSession
MultiSpeed
in factory all metal case
excellent condition
asking $295.00 obo
Give me a call....I'll listen!!!!!!

214-424-9920

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From: JAMES TOPPER                           Number: 4256
  To: GLENN CAREY                              Date: 09/01/93 10:38p
Subj: Re: CDROM question                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GC> you should be able to access any CD rom with GIFS or text files on it
GC> also
GC> some of the font collections should work if you have the conversion
GC> capabilities you can also access tiffs pcx and all the other graphic
GC> formats

   Glenn, thanks.  I knew most of that.  I have had one bad experience with
a disk filled with clip art that was for Clone and Mac computers.  I bought
it locally and figured I would be able to access the tiff and pcx clipart
on the disk.  However it was only accessable by running an included access
program.  Luckily the store I bought it from let me return it and get my
money back.  I would like to see a listing of CDROMs that are accessable
without having to run any special access programs.  I thought there would be
disks out there that might contain the things I'm looking for.  PS type 1
fonts would be nice too... ;-)  I have AD Pro and Imagemaster so converting
any clipart I can access wouldn't be a problem.  Not to mention that
PageStream can load them direct.

                                                Jim

PS.  Here is a list of the CDROMs I have:
         The Ultimate Mod collection
         Gifs Galore
         Knowledge Media Resource Library Graphics 1
         Xetek's 2 Fish and More disks that came with my s/w CDROM driver.

 * Q-Blue v0.7 *


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From: STEVE BERRY                            Number: 4257
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93  9:26p
Subj: Wondering...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What is the BEST Files.BBS Formated BBS CD rom out at this time? for use on 
ANY bbs to be a little more critical?

thanks for reading ... And remeber! Floppys can die, .. CD roms can just 
shine! <G> laters

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From: SHADOW SMITH                           Number: 4258
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/31/93  6:23p
Subj: Looking for:                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested in purchasing the sex capades movie...please give me the
# so i can call and order.

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 4259
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 09/02/93  5:10a
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I believe you are refering to Microsoft Encarta, it runs about 250 or
so... but Comptons MM encyclopedia runs around 50.00  check out the ads
here. I have seen it  a dozon times from about 49.00-66.00


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From: MICHAEL KOKOTT                         Number: 4260
  To: MARC CLARDY                              Date: 09/01/93  9:25p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom List                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SAM FIGUEROA@1:3622/13 meinte am 16.08.93
zum Thema "CD-Rom List":

> MC>MG>  Hello Mark.  Yes I would like the list of "ALL" the CD's your carry.
> MC>MG>  Please mail to:
> MC>MG>                  Max Green
> MC>MG>                  399 Westmeade Dr
> MC>MG>                  Gretna, LA. 70056
>
> MC> We'll send you one as soon as possible.  Thanks for replying.
>
> MC>                                               Mark
> MC>--- FreeMail 1.08b
> MC> * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)
> Mark,
>          Please send me a catalog of all cd titles at:
>         Sam Figueroa
>         Sam's Software
>         Rt 2 Box 2453-A
>         Manchester, TN 37355
>
Hello Mark, do you send this list also to Germany or only nationwide?
Else please send one Copy to:
Michael Kokott
Postfach (P.O. Box) 1755
53757 St. Augustin
Germany

Thanks
Michael--
** Beispiel-Signatur f�r ”ffentliche Nachrichten **

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 4261
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93 11:41p
Subj: Elysian Archive /Amiga                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Coming Soon!....
 
             Elysian Archive
  Welcome to the World of Amiga...
 
  Finally, an Amiga CD-ROM designed for BBS'!..
 
  * Games
  * Utilities for all Amiga Models
  * Tracker Modules(ST/NT/MED)
  * Demos of commercial software
  * Eurodemos
  * Animations
  * 24 bit images
  * Programming
 
  CD Specifications
  * ISO9660 format; readable by Amigas and PC's
  * File names are in 8.3 format for compatibility
  * Over 6000 files
  * Over 600 Megabytes
 
  Produced by TFS
  Published and Distributed by GroupWare

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From: RODNEY RUDD                            Number: 4262
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 09/02/93 12:18p
Subj: DAK CD-ROM SUPPORT                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SG> THE NUMBER FOR TECH SUPPORT IS 1-800-888-9818 I HAVE THE BSR
SG> 6800 MX IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
SG> 
 
Calling that number is absolutely futile.  I attempted to get through all day
Monday and half of Tuesday.  It was almost a constant wall of busy signals. 
The few times I was able to get a "ring", I got dumped into a voice mail system
that I can only describe as a NIGHTMARE.  No matter what button I pressed,
there was no way to get the information I wanted or to reach a human being -
the system would just hang up on me.  Needless to say, I was thoroughly
disgusted.
 
I was finally able to reach a human by calling 1-800-888-7808, through some
cosmic miracle of chance.
 
While we're on the topic of DAK "support", I'd like to complain a little bit
about the ROBOTS that man the 1-800-DAK-0800 credit card ordering line.  In
addition to knowning NOTHING about the products, they are unable to grant even
the simplest of requests, such as giving delivering instructions to UPS.  You
know, where they tell UPS to get a signature instead of just dropping the
package on the porch.
I was told "we don't have anywhere on the screen to put delivery instructions."
 
We ordered DAK's BSR stereo amplified 8Watt 2-way magnetically
shielded computer speaker system.  If I could have found another supplier for
those, I would have purchased them elsewhere.  I hate to say this because I am
a long time fan of DAK, and congratulate Mr. Kaplan on his CD-ROM marketing
push.  But, the customer service has deteriorated badly.

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4263
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 09/02/93 11:44a
Subj: Busty Babes v1.0r                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  SG> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 >  SG> +++++++++++++++++++++I WILL GO $ 260.00
 >  SG> YOU CAN FAX ME AT 1-602-292-0497 FOR MY ADDRESS AND MORE INFO

I have the CD and I'm selling it for $240.00 If you know any one that is
interrested in it they can reach me at 512-939-9822 ask for Pat! It is the very
first BB#1. Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4264
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 09/02/93 11:50a
Subj: Busty Babes for sale/trade              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > PAT- I HAVE A NEW 386DX40 MOTHERBOARD WITH 256K CACHE
 > WOULD TRADE FOR YOUR BB VOL.1
 > YOU CAN FAX ME AT 1-602-292-0497 OR LEAVE A MESSAGE

If you can throw in 2 meg of simms you got a deal. The CD is in real good
condition and I think you would be pleased.
 Give me a call at 512-939-9822 or leave me your # as I really need that mother
board for my son, thanks.
                              Pat

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From: DAVID BURKE                            Number: 4265
  To: THOMAS NUFER                             Date: 09/02/93  3:07p
Subj: Re: CDROM areas                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Then you should start one ( CdRom areas ) and be the modulator!

   Just might do that, I would like a Multi-Media, Graphics
Hardware only/Software only, CDROM Hardware only /Software only
RIP graphics, and a few more Sound/Graphic based areas that are not
in FIDO or have been droped. At this rate I might have to start a
GRAPHICS NET ;-)

                                               -=- Dave


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From: DAVID BURKE                            Number: 4266
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  3:32p
Subj: Give me a break...                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> >>>>>>>>THE "HOT"??? MONTHLY SPECIALS FOR SEPT 93<<<<<<<<<<<<
->
-> GAY WORLD 1  & GAY WORLD 2,  MANPOWER,  HOT HUNKS,  BUSTY BABES
-> ADULT REFERENCE LIBRARY,  PORK-WARE 1 OR 2, SEEDYROM 1-6,  SMUTWARE
-> and last but not least TRANZ....

   OK... I give, I like to keep up to date on the latest for sale
CDROMS what is new and what is good. But the type of CDROM peddled
most in this echo has sunk to levels considered vile and against
the law in most states.
   I nor 785 active users on my BBS will be involved with peddling
the kind of things listed above. GOODBYE!

                                            -=- Dave

-=- God, created Adam & Eve not Adam & Steve...


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From: RICHARD BUNTON                         Number: 4267
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 09/01/93  9:43a
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*******  Original Msg. From: Ronald Leon  To: Jeff Jenkins  *******
       
>>**** Ronald Leon.....
  *
  *  Are you talking about the Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia for 
  * Windows?? I haven't seen that for less than $249.00 or $129.00 for 
  * the upgrade. I'd like to find it cheaper though.
>>*****************************************************************************

Ronald, I just ordered this disc from Boris...I asked him specifically
if this was an, "UPDATE", Since he used this word in his ad"...Or if 
it was the COMPLETE Encyclopedia...He told me it was the complete
Encyclopedia. (Price 95.00 Dollars).

I would like some more information on this if you have any.

***** 
 **** ICHARD
** ** 

 * DeLuxe2/386 1.25 #3885 * I had a strong grip, but I had to stop, or go
blind!
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From: MICHAEL INGRAM                         Number: 4268
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/02/93  3:35a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey Boris....

In response to....

BO> Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
BO>   ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759
BO> 
BO> 
BO> Boris Osadciw

I need a CD Changer but prolly a little more than Bare Bones...
DOnt know a thing about installing these.  Please send one of your more 
attractive secreataries (or at least heavy doc's)<G>  with any order I
happen to place to help in installation!

I currently have a standard ISA 386/40DX type BBS operating under DV.
Need pricing information for anything that may be needed in my quest...
Also wanna know what it'll charge me to get a complete set with CD's to load 
those precious slots...  Saw somebodys ad somehere for a changer, loaded
with choices of BBS type cd's.  Was that you by chance?

Need prices....

Hopeless, Greedy Sysop...
Michael Ingram

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From: DANIEL HAGAN                           Number: 4269
  To: ROBERT LEDERMAN                          Date: 09/01/93  2:12a
Subj: ADAM Anatomy CD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Does anyone know how to get a hold of the "ADAM" anatomy teaching
 > system
 > for Windows on CD?    It is supposed to be a spectacular tutorial
 > intended for medical students.

I read about this project awhile back and never heard about the teaching system
after that (we have several medical programs at our college and are on most
mailing lists).  If you do find the source, please let us know in here. 
Thanks...

Daniel

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From: DANIEL HAGAN                           Number: 4270
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/01/93  2:27a
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > DH> > Hey .\\ike, I was charged $88 for Precision Mapping, what gives?  I
 > DH>You've been ripped off, rush down and call the BBB right away <G>.

 > And you've made a false accusation.  Rush down and call the Enquirer
 > right away . . . they may have a job opening for you. <G>

Thanks Mike!  It was the story they were waiting for *ALL* year long and they
cut a check for 150K...the TV program Hard Copy wanted to know if I could get
your address <G>.

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From: DANIEL HAGAN                           Number: 4271
  To: TYRONE THOMASON                          Date: 09/01/93  2:33a
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > DH>You've been ripped off, rush down and call the BBB right away <G>.

 > Yep and Mike hasn't replied yet......   Screw the BBB, I'm going to
 > the
 > President!!!  I ought to get something for my tax increase :{)
 > By the way UPS (Unclaimed Parcal Service) didn't send my disc to you
 > did they? They seem to have a problem with addresses around here.

UPS delivered about 75 BB version 1 disks here, and I of course told them my
name was Tyrone <G>.  You'd think that the readers here would be smart enough
to look around a little before approaching one of the "dealers"...most of them
here beat a dead horse telling buyers they will meet/beat competitor prices. 
Was surprised to see Mike Shanahan agree to credit the guy even though the
original disks were $10 more.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4272
  To: CHRIS JOHNSON                            Date: 09/01/93  9:39p
Subj: 7TH GUEST ONLY $39!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CJ> MS> Well Chris, we have the King's Quest VI's in stock and selling now
CJ> MS> at $47 if you're interested.  If you don't have one yet, talk to me!

CJ>        For the CD VERSION?

Yessireebob.  They're staring me in the face!  $51 w/ shipping.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4273
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/01/93  9:39p
Subj: U.S. Mail                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>>>    Yeah, as long as they don't LOSE the darn package, like
BO>>>    they've done with mine several times.  At least with UPS or
BO>>>    Fedex you have automatic insurance coverage.  8)

BO>This is true, but we place insurance on all pakages no matter how small
BO>the amount is. It still cost less and shipping is still faster than
BO>UPS ground.

Huh?  One pound by UPS WITH $100 insurance coverage ranges from $2.28 to
$2.97, depending on zone.  One pound via Priority Mail is $3.65 with $50
insurance coverage (for which you have to stand in line at the Post
Office).  As for delivery times, we're finding that Priority Mail is
taking 2-3 days, where UPS ground is 1-3 days for most of the Western U.S.
from Washington state.

Sure, Priority Mail has a delivery time advantage for the rest of the
country, but it IS more expensive when comparing equally weighted and
insured packages, and it actually is SLOWER in some scenarios, like
shipments to Oregon, Idaho, Washington, Montana, etc., which are
overnight by UPS ground, but take 2 days by Priority Mail.

No thanks - I'll gladly give UPS my business.  1) Insurance is automatic
and paperless with no standing in line.  2) They pick up right at my door
every afternoon (twice).  3) Less expensive.  4) Quicker or equal delivery
time to most of Western U.S.  5) Package tracing in case of a snafu.

Especially that last one!  Even with insurance, it's taken me over a
month to get a settlement through the Post Office for a lost package,
where UPS has settled with me in less than a week in both the two
instances (over 6 years) where they lost something.  Maybe I'm missing
something, but when given a choice between the two, I always stick with
UPS.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4274
  To: BOB BRODOVSKY                            Date: 09/01/93  9:39p
Subj: CDs' Good Deal                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BB>Just wanted to say thanks for the great deal on the CD-ROM titles I
BB>ordered from you. They arrived 3 days after I ordered them and they are
BB>just fine. I usually am very leary of mail order but I won't hesitate to
BB>order more software from you when I need it.

Glad to hear it Bob.  Most dealers in here are good to deal with, but
especially me. <g>

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4275
  To: CLIFF RUMMENIE                           Date: 09/01/93  9:39p
Subj: CD-ROM MASTER LIST 1/2 2/               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CR>        I'm interested in a good Clipart CD of non-shareware stuff
CR>        - have Goliath Shareware disc, have access to Key
CR>        ClipMaster Pro ... what have you got?

Cliff,

We have several good ones.  If you're mostly interested in the higher
quality images of 300dpi and above, I recommend Encyclopedia of Clipart
at $26, Clipart Heaven at $25, Publique Arte at $36, and Publisher's
Dream Disc at $38.50.  The Publisher's Dream Disc is nice because it comes
with a 184-pg. book showing all the clipart, and has fonts too.

Let me know if any of these interest you.  All are in stock.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4276
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 09/01/93  9:39p
Subj: CD ROM Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SF>        What cd would you reccomend that have alot of .MODS, .VOCS, and
SF>        other sounds, also do you have any that have lots of visual
SF>        stuff as well as audio!

Sam,

The most complete collection I've found is on The Soundware Collection.  Has
over 600mb of sound files in VOC, MOD, CMF, CMS, ROL, SND, and WAV formats,
as well as being BBS-ready.  Also includes a lot of great G-rated .GIF files.
In stock at $27 if you're interested.  Can give you a better price in
quantity.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4277
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93  9:39p
Subj: SHAREWARE ONLINE #2!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #2:  TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES   |
         |________________________________________________________|

                           = new since last posting

 5-STAR PREMIUM WINDOWS * Latest Windows shareware + 950 OS2 files!.....$27
 MYSTIQUE OF THE ORIENT * 600mb movie featuring Oriental beauties (a)...$59
 PRECISION MAPPING 1.5b * Newest release! Detailed street-level map.....$79
 SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
 SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 * Brand new w/ pure 1993 files! The NEWEST s/w CD!.$37

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4278
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93  9:39p
Subj: NEW CD-ROM TITLES GALORE                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
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           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #1:  NEW CD ARRIVALS   |
           |____________________________________________________|

                           = new since last posting

 5-STAR PREMIUM WINDOWS * Latest Windows shareware + 950 OS2 files!.....$27
 AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK 93/94 * New release. 11,000,000 businesses.$39
 AMINET AMIGA * New from Walnut Creek. Lots of current Amiga shareware..$15
 ARIZONA IMAGES * Fabulous photos of the Arizona desert country.........$30
 CANADIAN SHAREWARE * 6500+ shareware programs ready to run from the CD.$22
 COLOR MAGIC CLIPART * 600 megs. of 3-D color clipart.  Royalty-free....$27
 FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$30
 GAMEWARE COLLECTION * Over 6000 of the all time best games! BBS-ready..$24
 GIGA GAMES * Brand new from Walnut Creek. Set up for 6 popular BBS's...$26
 HAMWARE 93 * The Ham's #1 source for Ham software......................$28
 KING'S QUEST VI * Newest in the KQ series. Better than 7th Guest!......$47
 MAC MULTIMEDIA SPACE * A multimedia space encyclopedia. (Mac only).....$39
 MAC SHAREWARE * Loads of innovative new Macintosh shareware programs...$24
 MICROSOFT GOLF * Multimedia Golf game that is "on par with reality"....$58
 PHOENIX 4.0 * Finally - An update to 3! Very clean CD with fresh files.$28
 PHONEDISC USA * Summer '93 edition w/ 80 million residential listings..$69
 PINACOTHECA M/M * Multimedia presentation of classical paintings.......$24
 PRECISION MAPPING 1.5b * Newest release! Detailed street-level map.....$79
 REEL CLIPS * 600mb of royalty-free digital video clips.................$44
 SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
 SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 * Brand new w/ pure 1993 files! The NEWEST s/w CD!.$37
 SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD * Totally new shareware w/ no dupes to Vault 2!....$29

                    Adult Titles (must state age 21+)
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 AMATEUR MODELS * All original images of young models. BBS-ready........$35
 BUSTY BABES 3.0 * Newest release of top-selling disc. BBS-ready........$25
 DIRTY TALK * Full-color, full-motion video w/ adult film stars.........$59
 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2 * Sequel to release 1 with fresh, new images.......$36
 KAMA SUTRA * Indian documentary adult film w/ narration................$59
 LUSCIOUS LADIES * Hot new adult .GIF CD with outstanding cover art.....$37
 MYSTIQUE OF THE ORIENT * 600mb movie featuring Oriental beauties.......$59
 PHONE SEX * Actual .WAV file recordings of 900-number conversations....$27
 SEYMORE BUTTS INTERACTIVE * Fantastic new "interactive" adult film.....$49
 SOUTHERN BEAUTIES * Gorgeous photos of beautiful southern women........$30
 TOTAL FANTASY * Newly released .GIF disc from Denmark..................$33

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4279
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93  9:39p
Subj: BUSTY BABES II PREORDERS!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

           ______________________________________________________
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          |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #3:  CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS   |
          |______________________________________________________|

            We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
             - Cards are not processed until date of shipment -

 BUSTY BABES II * Over 1000 new and original hi-rez scans + Showoff (a).$29
 PC-SIG 13 * Newest CD from the oldest shareware distributor............$33
 PIER 3 * 650+mb of all new material w/ no dupes to Pier 1 or 2.........$39

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 4280
  To: PAUL SEDILLO                             Date: 09/01/93  1:20a
Subj: -=- Monthly Catalog -=-                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=      
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
  =-=   MONTHLY CATALOG OFFER   =-= 
  =-= If you are interested in 
  =-= recieving an updated    
  =-= monthly catalog, send/fax 
  =-= E-Mail us the following:  
  =-= Name - Michael Richard Hansen
  =-= Address - 1201 N. Gonzales
  =-= Telephone Number - (512) 275-3273
  =-= FAX/BBS Number - (512) 275-9441


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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 4281
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/01/93  1:29a
Subj: Cdrom Systems                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare 
-$1199. Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL
$10.00ec ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tell me a little about
groilers/and difference between dos v5 & win v1.

Thanks a Million


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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 4282
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/01/93  2:28a
Subj: Os/2 Cd                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

There seems to be a dispute over a thirty dollar rebate OS/2 is
offering on v.2.1 listen....

BO>> Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the
BO>>  rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom
BO>>  line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65.
 
>>    Isn't the rebate only for registered users of 2.0?
 
Not according to what they told us at IBM.
 
Boris Osadciw

Now Boris if I were you I would call 1800-3IBM-OS2 again(or whatever
number you called) and ask again because either someone fibed or you
miunderstood.

In my hands presently is a copy of the SPECIAL OFFER - $30.00 REBATE
FROM IBM

I quote:

"If you are upgrading from any previouse version of the OS/2*
operating system, IBM is pleased to anounce that you can obtain a
rebate on the OS/2 2.1 product!"

Now the clincher is 'upgrading from any previouse version of the OS/2*
operating system'.

The form goes on to detail how to go about recieving your $30.00.  You
must return one of the folowing:

1. Proof of license
2. Original receipt (of previous version)
3. Certification form (I believe you get this from a authorized IBM
dealer)

The bottom line is call IBM at the above number.

* trademark of the IBM Corporation.

Michael Hansen


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4283
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/02/93 12:15p
Subj: CD's for Women                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Heather Krause to David Nghiem <=-
 HK> know of an adult CD which is slanted toward females? Title and

I'm *not* a dealer, but if you could define what you mean by "...slanted
towards females..." maybe I (and others) could suggest a few.

... What do you mean? You actually read this Tagline?!?
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4284
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/02/93 12:21p
Subj: "New" Busty Babes                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Lee Noga to Bob Jackson <=-
 BJ>> Yes, put me down for a BB Vol II when you get some.

 LN> Hehehehe, your gonna like this disc :) It will be on the streets in
 LN> Septemeber for sure--

Actually, I was asking Mike to send me a "Rel.2" of BB since I traded
away my copy for a Rel.1 (:>  I'm counting on you to send me a "Vol.2"
BB - maybe even autographed??? =:)

... File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N)
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From: THE SISTER                             Number: 4285
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93 10:46a
Subj: Adult Cd-rom Disk 4Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a copy of Storm III that is about 6 months old. It contains over
600+ megs of ADult files. This Disk was Banned in Japan. I have used it
on my BBS and I am wanting to switch Cd-Disks. This disks had both Vpic
& Cshow on it so you can view the  Gif files. It also has Several Grasp
files & Fli files. There are Viewers for both on the Rom. It is setup
so that either a BBS operator or a PC users can view them. There are
also around 1200 Nude Males on it. The Males do not have discriptions
but the females do. All Female files are in Alphbetical Directories.
The viewers are completely menu driven. Each all the females are BBS ad
Free. I paid $79.00 plus shipping for it I am asking $65.00 plus
shipping. 
    I also have a copy of Animation Fantasies Vol I. This Disk retails
for $169.00 It is also completly menu driven. If includes Grasp/Dl/Fli
Gif & Text files. There are over 100 files here. I would like to get at
least $60.00 out of it. But if you want both I will take  $100.00 plus
shipping. Both have perfect Jewel Cases. & are in very good condition.
    You can contact me here in this Echo or at the following Net
addresses;
    FidoNet 1:290/13.0
    AdultLinks 69:5100/3.0
    Pixnet  116:193/0.0 116:193/1.0
    RushNet 74:650/13.0
    USpolnet 30:4/0.0 30:403/0.0 30:403/1.0 30:403/100.0
    Erosnet 106:100/0.0 106:1000/0.0 106:1000/1.0
YOU MUST BE AT LEAST 18-21 YEARS OF AGE. PLEASE PROVIDE PROOF BEFORE YOU
GO TO PURCHASE THESE!!
              Joannine Gesualdo


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 4286
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 09/02/93  2:38p
Subj: CDRoms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CDRoms for sale:

  ShareWare Heaven 1993              $27.00  600+ Megs of MSDOS/Win
  Hobbes OS/2  June 1993             $15.00  640+ Megs of OS/2
  Project Gutenberg  July 1993       $22.00  Tons of classic lit/history
  Source  March 1992                 $22.00  Tons of C code
  Garbo May 1992                     $15.00  600+ Megs of MSDOS/MAC
  Simtel MSDOS May 1993              $15.00  630+ Megs MSDOS
  Aminet June 1993                   $15.00  Hundreds of megs of Amiga
Postage and Insurance is $5.00 per order, 2nd day priority shipping.
I will ship COD.  Add $5.00 per order for COD charges.

Send checks/money orders to, and/or feel free to contact:

Eric Bravick
USF 3008
4202 E. Fowler Ave.
Tampa, FL. 33620-3008

(813) 979-1323 (Voice)
(813) 977-5212 (BBS)
Netmail 1:377/53.0


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 4287
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 08/31/93  6:05p
Subj: FLORIDA LION'S DEN IN                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I missed you too.

Lee was fairly easy to find at the One BBS Con....

 8-)


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 4288
  To: PHILIP POLSTRA                           Date: 09/01/93  2:32p
Subj: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUT                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I'm sure you'd love that.  Exclude the sysops by telling them they can't
>use it on their BBS and then suggest they peddle it for ya!  Only an idiot
>would run a BBS to make money as it is nearly impossible.

Odd - there are quite a few Sysops that do their BBS full-time and make quite a
bit of money at BBS Sysoping....


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From: JOHN SHEW                              Number: 4289
  To: JEFF PAZAHANICK                          Date: 08/27/93  1:09p
Subj: CDROM SPECIALS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Is the NEC36 the only SCSI?

Include the Toshibas in the SCSI category.  I've had two of 'em running
flawlessly for about 3 years.

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 4290
  To: DANIEL TSUI                              Date: 09/02/93  7:34p
Subj: Dealers WANTED !!!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Date: 11:03 am  Sat Aug 28, 1993       Number : 101 of 101
From: Daniel Tsui                      Base   : CD-Rom Items For Sale
To  : Kevin Plummer                    Refer #: None
Subj: WANTED Dealers                   Replies: None
Stat: Private                          Origin : 25 Aug 93  08:50:19

 * Reply to message in "CDROM"

 > ==========>>>>>>  W A N T E D     D E A L E R S
 > <<<<<<===========

 >   Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers

 >                    Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
 >                          Darrel Rivenbark


kevin, I live in australia and do not have access to a fax. Is Darrel
contactable on fidonet? I would be interested in dealing his CD's. Perhaps
you
or he could send me a dealer price list via netmail. I looking to buy
initially about 50 or so.

daniel

                                            
*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B
Daniel,

  If you could Please send me your Phone Number, Or a Fax Number to reach you
by,!

                        .....|<evin

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 4291
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  7:35p
Subj: Night Owl 9 $25                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                  N i g h t   O w l   9 . 0
 ******************************************************************
 *********                                                *********
 ***********           $ 25.00 a Copy !!!               ***********
 *********                                                *********
 ***********                                            ***********
 *********               Ask for Barney                   *********
 ***********           ------------------               ***********
 *********               1-800-638-5757                   *********
 ***********                                            ***********
 *********           We Will NOT be out Sold              *********
 ***********                                            ***********
 ******************************************************************
                  N i g h t   O w l   9 . 0

       ---->>>>>  BBS Ready - Has Files.bbs  <<<<<----

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From: CRIS BOYER                             Number: 4292
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  9:55p
Subj: CD-ROM Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Can anyone tell me where to find a good, cheap CDROM drive I can get around
or in the city of Royal Oak,Michigan? Thanx.

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From: CARL SLAWINSKI                         Number: 4293
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/02/93  9:10p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUEAUT            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ahoy Lee!

On <Tuesday August 31 1993>, Lee Noga was mumbling to Bob Jackson:

 LN> Hehehehe, your gonna like this disc :) It will be on the streets in
 LN> Septemeber for sure--
 LN>
 -=*>> Lee<*=-

What's the story on Busty Babes and such. At ONE BBSCON you stated that you
were no longer selling BB and the others and that you would come out with some
new ones. Unfortunately I was at one of the BBS for profit for sessions and had
to buy the tape on Dealing with Adult Gifs. Of course, I heard that you had
dropped it and also I live in one of the cities on your list. I picked up Busty
Babes from the Chicago something or other CD booth. He said that he bought them
directly from you and I was curious, why you would have him sell them at ONE
BBSCON if you were in fact dropping them and recommending that they not me
placed on BBS'. I mean it goes without saying that 95% of the people their were
sysops. I ask him about this at the time of purchase (before I heard the tape)
because their were some rumors floating around the convention regarding this.

Something to sit on the shelf or sell though. Maybe I could put up the ones
that don't have an penetration shots and such??? (I'm asking)

Are these new disks that you are producing suitable for a market such as
say.......Memphis, Tn??  8-)


Thanks for any info that you can provide me with in this area.




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From: TYRONE THOMASON                        Number: 4294
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/01/93  9:59a
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>customers who have asked me to match other dealers prices, and in the
MS>interest of good customer relations I'll honor your request.  Call anytime
MS>if you have any other comments or questions.

.\\ike,

You've just made a customer for life [Boy I hate these corny moments
;{)].  Oh, by the way, my last order arrived yesterday evening.

       Ty.

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 4295
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/02/93  4:33p
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris,

Answering a msg of <30 Aug 93>, from Boris Osadciw to All:

whats the total MB's in the 4disk set that you just advertised?  Might be
talking to you soon if its a decent amount...


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4296
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 09/03/93  2:34a
Subj: Re: OS/2                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Hello Boris!

>>    Sunday August 29 1993, Boris Osadciw writes to All:

 BO>> ==================== OS2 ON CD For Only $65.00 ? ====================
 BO>>                               IN STOCK
 BO>>  Until Septemeber 14, 1993 you can purchase the complete OS/2 v2.21
 BO>>  package, which offer's you the installation disks, cd, manuals and
 BO>>  other special discounts for only $65.00!

>>    When did OS/2 v2.21 come out?  I thought I was running the
>>    latest version (v2.1).  ;-)


It's been out for a while now, as I understand it.

Boris Osadciw

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From: CAM LERCH                              Number: 4297
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93 10:38a
Subj: CD disk catalog                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All,

I was wondering if anyone out there has a CD disk Catalog that I could
recieve.. I'm realy interested in buying a CD disk and I would like to know
that exact size of files on each disk.. any suggestions?

**Cam**

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From: ROSS LAFLEUR                           Number: 4298
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  5:22p
Subj: CD Changer                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello!  This is Ross, SysOp at Fantasy Island in Charlotte, NC... I would like
to get some CD's on-line here... Night Owl mabye, some others, anyway, I would
just like to know how much a used CD-Changer would be..  Cheapest possible
I'm sort of short of funds.... :)

                                       Thanks


                                               Ross

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From: MARC KULAK                             Number: 4299
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 09/02/93 12:00p
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Michellea!

Tuesday August 31 1993, Michellea Sorensen writes to All:

 MS>                                         Cdn$   US$
 MS>             Night Owl 9                   35    26

 MS>      Shareware Studio I Free with purchase of Night Owl 9

How would you get this to me?? I am in Canada, Do you do a C.O.D?? Or a
Visa/MasterCard over the phone?  What about shipping?? Etc.

                Marc

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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 4300
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  1:30a
Subj: 3DO CD ROM system                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anuone have any information on this system? I was rading a artical that 
said it well run Animals CD an d stuff. Is the 3 DO able to hook up to 
the computer of it be a seperate game system?
      thanks on any comments..
             ken

... Glad To Be Here..
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From: CHIP MORROW                            Number: 4301
  To: ZACHARY HAMM                             Date: 09/02/93  8:30a
Subj: 7TH GUEST CD-ROM FOR SALE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ZH> 7th guest CD-ROM.  New in box with docs and VHS tape on how the game was
ZH> made.

ZH> $40.00 plus shipping.

Sold.  Contact me voice after 6pm EST at 614-366-2296, or netmail to
1:226/1420 for arrangements.


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From: PHILIPPE RENARD                        Number: 4302
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/27/93 10:23p
Subj: Problem with Mitsumi CD-ROM'S Drive     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello,

I have two mitsumi cd-rom drive in my PC (= 2 cards controler)

My question : It's possible to chain this drives and how ?


Today                               It's Possible ?
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Thank you for your helping

Philippe Renard

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 4303
  To: JIM CLEMENTS                             Date: 09/02/93 10:36p
Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Henry, my understanding was that they were looking at cdrom, but
-> only selling it as a optional extra with the complete paper
-> encyclopedia. Can you tell us any more about it? Cheers!
Yeah, that's the line we got fed at the fair...
I know I've seen it in an ad somewhere for about $100 I think it was..
I can't remember though...
                        Henry

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From: JOHN DILDAY                            Number: 4304
  To: RICHARD NIXON                            Date: 09/02/93  8:14p
Subj: TOSHIBA 3401B FOR SALE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

i'll take it,
call me during business hours
919 362-8212


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From: STEVE KRUEGER                          Number: 4305
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/03/93  8:13a
Subj: BB cd rom                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey guys...does the Busty Babes CD show any "PINK"???

Inquiring minds want to know...Id be interested if is showed some PINK!!

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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 4306
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/02/93 11:46a
Subj: Showoff Interface                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Lee Noga to Mark Walker <=-

 MW>>  LN> SHOWOFF is our baby now in this industry, and you will see
 MW>>  LN>     her on our 2 disc's coming out in September--

 LN> Whatcha' want to know, and I will fill your ears :)
 
Lee, I got BB 3, with SHOWOFF.  FYI, I couldn't get it to work with
the right colors on my screen. (I have a VGA monitor with a Paradise
16 card - WD chip).  I called the 800 number for help, and Dan Graboi
was very helpful, but said I needed SVGA card to really see the colors.

The idea of having multiple miniature images on the screen is nice,
but if one can't see them, not too good.  Also, I don't run a mouse
unless needed, and don't load the driver for it. When I tried to
install the SHOWOFF, it blipped me and said mouse was required, which
of course it was.

I believe the instructions should state that SVGA is required if it is,
and that a mouse is required.  Not everyone has those yet.  Or, is
there a workaround?  Yes, I tried the SOCD16 startuup and got a black
screen that had the menu at the bottom, and I had to warm boot to get
out since I couldn't see the areas to click on.

I resorted to the old familiar Cshow and CDMENU, and reviewed most of
the directories.  Fun CD.




... If love is blind, why is lingerie so thin?
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4307
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  7:43p
Subj: NEW CD-ROMS!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

New and Hot at CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA, its the DR. CDROM series!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dr. Music - Music Editors, MOD, MIDI, ROL, SND, VOC, WAV and more!
Dr. Shareware - 615 megs of shareware programs and utilities!
Dr. Games - Adventure, Arcade, Card, Sports, Strategy, Puzzles, more!
Dr. Windows - 3400+ files of MS Windows 3.x programs and utilities!
                                             ...and they're BBS Ready!
In Canadian Dollars: $80 for all four, or $28 each (all applicable
   taxes included)  In U.S. Dollars - $57 for all four, or $19.95 each
** CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA ** 306-789-4654 Voice / 789-8690 Fax
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4308
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/02/93  8:05p
Subj: ADULT CD FOR TRADE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->   Maybe one of these days someone will come out with a good CD full
-> of
->   adult material for us ladies. And hopefully it'll be husband-proof.
->   I'd hate for hubby to realize that I'm enjoying such things!  ;-)
->
->   Just to keep this on track as a "For Sale" message... Does anyone
->   know of an adult CD which is slanted toward females? Title and
->   price, dealers?

Hi Heather!

   Well, I know exactly what you mean. Being a woman myself, as well as
a wife, I understand this, but I've got one up on the men. I own my own
CD-ROM company! Hey, and as for discs for us ladies, I still haven't
found one, but Hot Hunks sounds like it might be promising. ;-)

   Gimme a call sometime 306-789-4654, and we'll discuss the politics of
men and their "adult" discs. (Which are NEVER wife-proof).

   .\\ichellea
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From: DAVID HEYDRICK                         Number: 4309
  To: JOHN DUIJS                               Date: 09/02/93  4:11p
Subj: Gay Roms??                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

John,

     Thanks for the critique.  It sounds as if we are of similar
     preference :)  Although the price on the ROM is a little steep
     for me at the moment.  However I will look into it.

     
     My taste runs more to the text file than the Gif, since
     it is easier for me to find text files to my preference than
     Gifs.  But alas, I have a large collection of text files
     and it is hard for me to find new ones that I have not
     seen.  Is there any European BBS's that you know of, that
     carry large text file sections (in English)?

     I have been to your county once, and loved it.  I hope to
     visit again in the next year or two.  

                                              Thanks again,
                                                David

... On a queer day, you can see forever!
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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 4310
  To: DAVID BURKE                              Date: 09/02/93 11:45p
Subj: Re: CDROM areas                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DB> -> Then you should start one ( CdRom areas ) and be the modulator!
 DB> 
 DB>    Just might do that, I would like a Multi-Media, Graphics
 DB> Hardware only/Software only, CDROM Hardware only /Software only
 DB> RIP graphics, and a few more Sound/Graphic based areas that are not
 DB> in FIDO or have been droped. At this rate I might have to start a
 DB> GRAPHICS NET ;-)
     ^^^^^^^^
  Already exists.  Fairly busy echo right now, discussing POV/Raytraceing.
  Why not include an all inclusive CD Hardware echo?

  Trying to keep out of trouble soooo---are you a dealer selling CDs?  How
  about posting a list of what you have available.

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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4311
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/03/93  1:48a
Subj: BRAND NEW CD'S IN STOCK!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested in the Canadian Shareware & the Gameware Collection. Is
there any chance that you could give me some more details on exactly
what they contain? THANKS A LOT!!!

                       -Jason

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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4312
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/03/93  2:10a
Subj: RED HOT                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested in the "Jokes/Pranks or 1001 Util" CD. Could you please
give me more details as to what it contains? THANKS A LOT!!

                       -Jason

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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 4313
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/03/93  9:56p
Subj: BUSTY BABES II PREORDERS!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (01 Sep 93) Mike Shannon wrote to All...
 MS>            ______________________________________________________
 MS>           |                                                      |
 MS>           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #3:  CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS   |
 MS>           |______________________________________________________|
 MS> 
 MS>             We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
 MS> 
 MS>  BUSTY BABES II * Over 1000 new and original hi-rez scans + Showoff
 MS> (a).$29

  O.K. Mike your persistant arm twisting leaves me no choice other than to
  honor your pre-order offer.  You have my ordering info on file so lets
  do it.  BTW, any idea when SHE ships?  A 73 day window would be fine for
  my planning purposes.<g>  Also when you ship this order please include
  four CD Jewel cases (hope the cost is > $1.00 each), got so excited I
  tore the cover off of one of those HOT CDs.  May happen again too so I
  just want to be ready.

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 4314
  To: PHILIPPE RENARD                          Date: 09/03/93  7:26a
Subj: Re: Problem with Mitsumi CD-ROM'S Drive  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Hello,
> I have two mitsumi cd-rom drive in my PC (= 2 cards controler)
> My question : It's possible to chain this drives and how ?
Hi Phil,
No it is not possible. TTYL

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From: MANNY CASAO                            Number: 4315
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/03/93  1:15p
Subj: WANTED: CDTV                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking to buy a Commodore CDTV Unit.

A stock unit is fine.


Manny



************************************************************************
*  My opinions are my own and you may not copy  *    City Nights BBS   *
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From: KEVIN MCDERMOTT                        Number: 4316
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93 12:22p
Subj: The 7TH Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Would anyone be willing to sell their used copy of T7G for $30?
(CompUSA's price is REALLY good, but I just don't have the money :)).
           Kevin


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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 4317
  To: MICHAEL CROSSON                          Date: 09/01/93 12:08p
Subj: Re: Jem Disk Trade In                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

.

28 Aug 93, Michael Crosson writes to All:

   MC> Send us your old CD-Rom (in good condition) and $14.95 and we'll
   MC> send you Jem Disc I shareware CD-Rom collection..... The current
   MC> price without trade in is $19.95 plus S/H so this deal represents
   MC> a savings of $10.

$19.95
-14.95
------
$ 5.00 savings, not $10, unless you are including shipping on this item.

                                                  - Arnie :+}

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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 4318
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 09/01/93 12:11p
Subj: Re: Seventh Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

.

   MH> GOT A COPY OF THE SEVENTH GUEST FOR TRADE.

   MH> INTERESTED IN AN ENCLYPODIA (EXCUSE MY SPELLING) OR POSSIBLY
   MH> OTHER GAMES. NOT INTERESTED IN SHAREWARE OR XXX CD'S

Interested in any of the following?:

GROUP ONE -

FontMaster CD Library           Over 5000 files in 100+ directories

Nautilus (March 1993)           Features Karaoke and Photo CD images

GROUP TWO -

HyperText Electronic Library    Programmers reference and more

Magazine Article Summaries      Includes the full text of 32 magazines
                                1984-92, and summaries of 300 more

Marketing Master                Custom search and sort, print labels, more


Dataware Demo Disc              Two excellent retrieval engines (one is
                                hypertext) & over a dozen usable data bases

Hypertext Information Base      AIX 3.2, includes ADA, AIX, CXX, FORTRAN, NAV,
                                GRAPH, HARDWARE, PASCAL, PROG, and UIPROG

Tax Prep and Business Programs  Shareware compilation includes BUSINESS, DAYO,
                                CHURCH, HOME, MISC, PLANNER, STOCK and TAX

LaserTax                        Tax Preparation tool and forms library - req.
                                Windows 3.1 and 4mb RAM.

Federal Register                V56 #100 through V56 #226.  Approx 500 mb of
                                data including the full text of all volumes



I'd be willing to trade one of the discs in group one PLUS two of the discs
in group two (a total of THREE discs) for Seventh Heaven.

If you want information on any of the discs, call me (voice) at
(203) 746-1195 (M-F, 9-5) or at home (203) 746-1727.

                                        - Arnie :+}

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From: CHARLEY WEBB                           Number: 4319
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/03/93  9:08a
Subj: wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for 2 Sony CDU-535-1 CD-Rom drives. If anyone is selling one,
leave me a message and a price.


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From: JOHN PIMENTEL                          Number: 4320
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  6:56a
Subj: CD CADDIES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Where (other than Mike Shannon -- NOTE nothing against Mike, but I need a
comparison) can CD Caddies be bought and how much??



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From: SID LEE                                Number: 4321
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/03/93  7:30p
Subj: U.S. Mail                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Boris Osadciw <=-

 MS> No thanks - I'll gladly give UPS my business.  1) Insurance is
 MS> automatic and paperless with no standing in line.  2) They pick up
 MS> right at my door every afternoon (twice).  3) Less expensive.  4)

 I've always understood they were pretty good in the States but 
 they are terrible in Canada. When stuff comes in from outside 
 the country they hold it in some remote part of the country and 
 stick the addressee for a customs clearance fee and duty etc. 
 before they will unhand the parcel. They have a minimum charge 
 which is of the order of $20-$30 before they will even talk to 
 you and it is cash on the barrel head. Contrast that with Fed Ex 
 and others who deliver the parcel to the door or allow you to 
 come and bail it out charging only the duty and sales tax. Many 
 of my contacts here instruct any foreign shipper not to use UPS 
 and refuse the package if it comes that route. It is just too 
 expensive here!
 
 -- Regards --

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4322
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/03/93  1:35p
Subj: CDs For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm clearing out my shareware and misc. CD collection.  All CDs listed are
in like-new condition and are priced at $5.00 each. Please add $3.00 postage
PER ORDER.  Post here or call (713) 488-0065 to reserve or confirm
availability. Will consider trades for adult CDs.

CD Winbox               CD Powerbox            Encyclopedia of ClipArt
Colossal Cookbook       Cookbook Heaven        World of Flight
World of Trains         Bibles & Religion      Phoenix 3.0
SDN-1 Plus              Ham Radio              Dictionaries & Languages
Mega Win/OS2            Mega A/V               Mega ROM 1
Mega ROM 2

... Tagline fever is the primary symptom of the Blue Wave epidemic!!
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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 4323
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/03/93  8:56p
Subj: Help                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi everyone once again,  I have a few questions about the CD-ROM drives.  OK,
about 1 year ago I bought a EXTERNAL NEC cd-rom drive,  costed me about $620
Canadian and it came with about 10 discs, it's Kinda slow, 800ms,  I am
wondering about how much one of those CD-ROM things that you can copy onto and
howmuch would a disc be?


    Also,  I am in my teens...  I got my really cool Laser 386/SX 20Mhz
computer and it's on it's second year... I got the CD-rOM and the Odd time
since it's said "Not ready reading Drive A:" (Or B,  Just my floppies not my
Hard Drive or CD-ROM) and it wrecks the Floppys.  How much would it cost to
fix.   I don't know to much about computers,  thats why I need help.... Lots of
it.

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From: J. ALLEN                               Number: 4324
  To: MICHAEL CROSSON                          Date: 09/02/93  7:08p
Subj: Re: Jem Disk CD-Rom Trade In Sale       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MC> Send us your old CD-Rom (in good condition) and $14.95 and we'll send
MC> you Jem Disc I shareware CD-Rom collection.  Jem Disc was printed last

MC> The current price without trade in is $19.95 plus S/H so this deal
MC> represents a savings of $10.  HURRY - offer ends 9/15/93!

JA>   I come up with $5.00.  How do you get to $10.00 savings?

MC>Thanks for the mini consumer math lesson J, but my original post is
MC>correct. Shipping and Handling is FREE if you take advantage of the
MC>trade-in special. Since S/H is normally $5.00 and we took $5.00 off
MC>the price, that comes exactly one Franklin!

Why don't you account for the cost of shipping and for the value of the
disk (I left out the disk value before)that is required to be traded to
receive this "Savings".  Show your figures, like I have done below.

          current price Jem disk       $19.95
           trade-in price              $14.95
                                     ----------
            Savings                     $5.00
            S/H "Savings" on JEM        $5.00
                                       -------
        Sub Total (claimed "Savings")  $10.00

  Subtract S/H on old disk trade-in
           that is *required* to
           obtain savings             -($5.00)

  Subtract value of disk you must
           trade-in (this disk must
           have a value because it
           needs to be "in good
           condition")                -($5.00) (or more??)
 ============================================================

                   Grand Total Savings  $0.00  <----  (or worse)

    Where's the Beef???

/

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From: THOMAS NUFER                           Number: 4325
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  8:52p
Subj: MultiMedia Encyclopedia                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I ahve a copy of the Software Toolbox's Multimedia Encyclopedia CD to sell or
trade!Will trade even up for any XXX CD(except Busty Babes)!Would prefer a
Storm or even Swimware CD!

Call 1-616-344-3329 ask for Tom1

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 4326
  To: ANDREW MURPHY                            Date: 09/01/93  5:05p
Subj: GIF/ANIM DISKS ?                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

>What is a good video disk for BBS use?  Looking for G Gifs of everything under
>the sun.

So Much Screenware or GIFs Galore should fit this....


 * SLMR 2.1a * AIDS, Drugs, Taxes - don't Liberals just kill you?

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From: J. ALLEN                               Number: 4327
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/03/93 10:33a
Subj: Re: Busty babes #1                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 31 Aug 93  23:37:40 , Doug Carpenter said this to Doug Snell:

 > only please.  Thank you!
DC>  DS> What make BB #1 so valuable?
DC> 
DC> It has copyrighted scans on it...

That would make selling or reselling it copyright infringment.  Wasn't there 
a dealer claiming (or asking) large resell amounts for copies of that disks
in this echo?

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From: HARVEY BRODY                           Number: 4328
  To: CRIS BOYER                               Date: 09/03/93  8:20p
Subj: CD-ROM Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Get the latest issue of Computer Shopper, Processor Mag, or Nuts and Bolts
Mag, then go hunting..
                               Harvey 
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From: HARVEY BRODY                           Number: 4329
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 09/03/93  8:21p
Subj: Dealers WANTED !!!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested my tel number is: 518-393-5157, Central NYS and Boston. 
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4330
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/03/93  7:31a
Subj: EXCELLENT DISC & PRICE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          *******   **  **  ***** ****** **    **
 $19US    **    **  **  **  **      **    **  **
          *******   **  **  *****   **     ****
$25Cdn    **    **  **  **     **   **      **
          *******    ****   *****   **      **

We've got BUSTY BABES... The best adult disc, period.
Features thousands of sizzling pictures of the bustiest
babes in North America including (yes!) Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF (it rocks!), and it's BBS Ready.

------->   Just 19 US or 25 Canadian Dollars. <--------

   .\\ichellea

CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA
6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk., S4N 4G7
306-789-4654 Voice
306-789-8690 Fax
306-789-8690 Online BBS Ordering
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From: STEPHEN THOMPSON                       Number: 4331
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/03/93  9:17p
Subj: Wanted CDROM for SBPRO                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

Does anyone have an external CDROM for a soundblaster pro
that they want to sell? Or does anyone know of brands that
I can hook up to a SBPRO?

Please reply here or netmail me.

Thanks, Stephen

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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 4332
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  2:52a
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4333
  To: ALBERT AFONSO                            Date: 09/04/93  2:54a
Subj: Re: Mm encyclopedia                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I was looking for v2.0 if I could find it. Anyway, how about
>>    $25+COD Shipping? If you are intersted, let me know and I will
>>    send you my address.

>>    Take care,

Albert, we have v2.0 in stock and you can have it for $30.

If your interested, please feel free to call us at 216-225-3263
anytime and I'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4334
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/04/93  2:54a
Subj: RED HOT CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$
 CD POWERBOX/WINDOWS - $20         COMPTONS ENCYC UPGRADE   - $95.
 GAME OR SOUNDWARE   - $25.        ALL CHESTNUT TITLES      - $10.
 HACKER CHRONICAL    - $18.        JOKES/PRANKS - 1001 UTIL - $10.
 NIGHT OWL 9.0       - $25.        KINGS QUEST VI           - $47.
 SO-MUCH-SHAREWARE 3 - $29.        TOOLWORKS ENCYC DOS/WIN  - $49.
 SHAREWARE EXPLORER  - $59.        9000 SOUNDS              - $25.
 SOFTWARE VAULT 2    - $20.        5 STAR PREM DOS/WIN      - $29.
 DR.CD COLLECTION - 4 CD'S - $55.  PC KARAOKE W/MICROPHONE  - $89.
 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) - TECH 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4335
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/04/93  2:54a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00  Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $289.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1199.  -SCSI
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00  Texel Ext 265ms Bare  - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00  Texel Ext Complete    - $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $439.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $569.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00  Mitsumi w/Sound Card  - $325.00 -PRPR
 Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50.  ALL ChestNuts CD's $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

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From: BRIAN ROMANCHICK                       Number: 4336
  To: EVERYONE                                 Date: 09/03/93 10:51p
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FOR SALE OR TRADE. BUSTY BABES AND HOT PICS VOL.3 
25.00

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From: MICHAEL COLLIER                        Number: 4337
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/03/93 10:13a
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HK> 
HK>    Being a "wife" myself, I've had to avoid all these luscious-soundi
HK>    CDs since I'd obviously be unable to use them. Geee... I guess tha
HK>    it means:
HK> 
HK>    1)  Females are physically or mentally unable to open the CD case?
HK>    2)  Wives are obviously computer-phobes and wouldn't think to get
HK>        a directory listing to see what's on the disk?
HK>    3)  The lady of the house would only be incensed by such adult
HK>        material, and therefore must be "protected" from it by having
HK>        hubby hide the evidence?
HK>    4)  Nobody but males read the CDROM ads and would ever realize tha
HK>        such trickery occurs...
HK> 
HK>    Maybe one of these days someone will come out with a good CD full 
HK>    adult material for us ladies. And hopefully it'll be husband-proof
HK>    I'd hate for hubby to realize that I'm enjoying such things!  ;-)
HK> 
HK>    Just to keep this on track as a "For Sale" message... Does anyone
HK>    know of an adult CD which is slanted toward females? Title and
HK>    price, dealers?


  I think a good idea might be, ala Ms. Sorensen from up here in Canada, 
for the CDrom vendors in this conference, most of which are male, to 
graciously donate pictures of themselves au natural (and more!) for just 
such a compilation. I mean fair is fair don't you think... Now what would 
be a good name... Cute *icks: Read Only Males.... and then we could do a 
Gay disc as well!



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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4338
  To: TYRONE THOMASON                          Date: 09/02/93  8:15p
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TT>Yep and Mike hasn't replied yet......   Screw the BBB, I'm going to the
TT>President!!!  I ought to get something for my tax increase :{)

Tyrone,

I DID reply to you in a fairly lengthy message.  If you did not receive it,
give me a call @ 509-457-2892.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4339
  To: RON RICHMOND                             Date: 09/02/93  8:15p
Subj: Canadian sales                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>>>       because I cannot get the disk to them from Customs.and they
BO>>>       would have to pick it up at the P.O. I chose to abandon the
BO>>>       disk, as this would be almost as much as the original cost.

BO>We have shipped hundreds of adult cd's to Canada and never had a problem
BO>with customes. In fact, we just shipped a major order to Ontario and the
BO>customer received it with ease and NO CUSTOM FEE's.

We have never had a package seized by Canadian customs either.  In fact,
after 6 years in this business, and shipping hundreds (if not thousands) of
adult CD's overseas and to Canada, only one has ever been confiscated, and
that was to Great Britain.  Even then, I was able to collect my insurance
settlement from the U.S. Postal Service, and I re-shipped another CD to
my customer, which he received.  My personal opinion is that this customs
seizure thing is somewhat overblown.  If the product is packaged and
labeled properly, Canadians have very little to worry about concerning
their shipments from the U.S.

Just my 2-cents worth,

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4340
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  8:15p
Subj: CD-ROM LIQUIDATION                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
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         |________________________________________________________|

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Compton's Interact..$95   US Wars: Korea......$29   US Wars: Des. Storm.$29
US Wars: Vietnam....$29   US Wars: WWII.......$29   Guinness Disc 92....$16
Amiga AB-20.........$13   Super CD 1..........$14   Game Pack 2.........$22
Canadian Shareware..$19   MAC Shareware.......$22   Jedi Collection.....$39
Original S/W 1993...$10   Conan the Cimmerian.$27   Reel Clips..........$35
Kodak Photo CD......$18   Phoenix 3.0.........$12   Ham Radio 3.0.......$10
Lion's Share........$20   Clipart Galore......$25   Window Master.......$17
Windoware...........$10   Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$22   Great Wonders.......$32
Top 2000 Shareware..$18   Software Vault 1....$17   Return to the Moon..$26

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 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4341
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  8:15p
Subj: LATEST SHAREWARE CD!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |  Title:  SHAREWARE ONLINE #2  |  |   Price:  $37   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

          This outstanding new CD is the ABSOLUTE NEWEST and MOST
   UP-TO-DATE shareware CD available!  All files are dated 1993 with the
  exception of five program sets, giving you a full array of late-release
             shareware, dated between January and August 1993!

 * Fully BBS ready with file listings in six different formats, including
   FILES.BBS, for use with virtually any BBS system.  File lists are in
   every directory, and also a master text directory.
 * No dupes to release 1.
 * 623mb total occupied disc space.
 * 4200+ total files.
 * Improved Shareware Online file retrieval system.
 * All files dated 1/93 to 8/93.
 * Separate directory of ANSI pictures for sysops.

 Don't be fooled by the lower file count on ShareWare OnLine.  ONLY
 QUALITY PROGRAMS are included on this disc.  Very few text files and
 "junk" which makes file numbers high...

       MASTER DIRECTORY INFORMATION FOR: ShareWare OnLine Vol. #2

     DIRECTORY NAME     # OF FILES     TOTAL DIR SIZE    AVERAGE FILE SIZE
   -----------------------------------------------------------------------
       \ANSIPIC              24           2,689,465           112,061
       \ARCHIVER             41           4,172,687           101,773
       \BBSDOORS            112          17,553,296           156,726
       \BBS_SOFT            228          26,881,458           117,901
       \CAD                  42           6,270,163           149,290
       \CLIPART              75          18,175,874           242,345
       \COMM1               198          18,774,740            94,822
       \COMM2               162          22,958,736           141,721
       \DATABASE            128          20,790,364           162,425
       \DEMOS                85          45,597,484           536,441
       \DESK                 33           6,753,341           204,647
       \EDUCATE              68          11,723,020           172,397
       \ELECMAIL             95           8,681,269            91,382
       \FINANCE             127          26,224,848           206,495
       \GAMES1              221          31,420,660           142,175
       \GAMES2              209          27,878,576           133,390
       \GRAPHICS            121          21,256,628           175,675
       \HAM                  35           3,103,623            88,675
       \HOBBY                53           9,630,653           181,710
       \INFOR               177          10,400,453            58,760
       \LINUX                30          29,337,500           977,917
       \MISC                139          21,399,340           153,952
       \MUSIC               184          33,523,012           182,190
       \NETWORK              43           6,746,650           156,899
       \OS2                 124          21,254,494           171,407
       \PICTURE             282          45,412,660           161,038
       \PRINTING             24           3,185,427           132,726
       \PROG                 90          12,857,472           142,861
       \TRUETYPE            277          15,218,836            54,942
       \UTIL1               184          16,319,479            88,693
       \UTIL2               112          12,274,360           109,593
       \VIRUS                25           3,063,903           122,556
       \WIN1                168          22,268,988           132,554
       \WIN2                144          23,869,468           165,760
       \WORD                155          15,094,726            97,385
   ------------------------------------------------------------------
   T O T A L S:           4,215         622,763,648           147,749

Special offer:  Get Shareware Online 1 AND 2 for only $57!  Best of 92/93.
                >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<

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 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

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From: SAL PEDONE                             Number: 4342
  To: ALBERT AFONSO                            Date: 09/03/93 11:39p
Subj: Mm encyclopedia                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hello Sal!
->
-> 27 Aug 93 00:35, Sal Pedone wrote to Albert Afonso:
->
-> SP>    I have an unopened copy of Comptons MM Ency for windows
-> v1.01w... SP>    Asking $45 plus shipping...if interested give me a
-> call or echo here
-> I was looking for v2.0 if I could find it. Anyway, how about $25+COD
-> Shipping? If you are intersted, let me know and I will send you my
-> address.
->
-> Take care,
->
-> Albert Afonso

  Will go $30 shipped prepaid..Will not do a cod on such a low cost
  item...SEnd Check or MO for $30 to:
  Sal Pedone
  107 Champagne Dr.
  Byron, GA  31008

  912-956-5163  6pm-9pm EST

  Let me know...Sal


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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4343
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/03/93 12:27p
Subj: PC-SIG                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC>Go for Nightowl....don't waste your time with PC Sig...

  Can you please give me some details on what Nightowl is? I don't know
anything about it. THANKS!!

                       -Jason

P.S.- How do the prices compare, too, please?

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From: SHADOW SMITH                           Number: 4344
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/03/93 12:54p
Subj: Looking for:                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

No particular interest, just looking for a list and cost if that's
available.  More tuned to the adult side of things.

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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4345
  To: ROBERT LEDERMAN                          Date: 09/03/93 10:24p
Subj: Oxford English Dictionary               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RL>Does anybody have the complete Oxford English Dictionary on CD?
RL>How is it?
RL>How big is it?
RL>Where did you buy it?

RL>Would anybody sell it to me cheap?
RL>Thanks
RL>RJL


If you get any leads, PLEASE let me know! I have ALL of the EXACT same
questions. So, if you get answers, PLEASE relay them to me too. THANKS A
LOT!!

                               -Jason

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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4346
  To: MIKE CICCOLINI                           Date: 09/03/93 10:28p
Subj: Question about CD-ROM?                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MC>To all you experts out there,

MC> I own a Sound Blaster, (not the PRO but the 1.5 non-stereo) and
MC> was wondering if I bought a CD-ROM would installation be smooth
MC> or would there be some problems with finding drivers or some
MC> other compatibility problems. I have been told that it would
MC> be better if I sold my SBlaster and bought a multi-media kit.
MC> I'd rather not do that if I can use my own SBlaster.
MC> Thanks for any advice!!!

Hi! I'm hardly an expert but I just recently bought an external CD-ROM
drive (came w/ controller) and installed it into my computer (already
contained, Regular SB, Modem, Mouse, Printer, & Monitor) & I had no
compatibility problems. I had to move the IRQ setting to the next switch
but it was really easy & everything works great! Lemme know if you need
any help & I'll do my best (I can only speak from experience though b/c
I am not an expert - just a computer-literate, experienced user <G>)

                       -Jason

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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4347
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/03/93 10:35p
Subj: UPDATED CD PRICE LIST 1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike,

  I'm very interested in the following titles. Please give me more
details on exactly what they contain if you can. Hopefully I'll be
ordering shortly - it sounds like your clients are always satisfied! :)

               1001 Utilities
               Middle East Diary
               World Factbook
               Reader's Library
               Desktop Bookshop
               Dictionaries & Language

THANKS A LOT!!!!

                               -Jason

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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4348
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/03/93 10:39p
Subj: UPDATED CD PRICE LIST 2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Two More I'm interested in:  Time Magazine Computer Almanac & the KGB
World Factbook.  Please send me more details on exactly what they
contain & hopefully I'll have an order to so shortly thereafter.
THANKS!!

                               -Jason

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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4349
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 09/03/93 10:51p
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested in Nightowl 9 and/or Shareware Studio II -- could you
please give me more detailed info on what they both contain? THANKS A
LOT!!!

                       -Jason

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From: STEVE KRUEGER                          Number: 4350
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 09/03/93  8:43p
Subj: RE: MITSUMI                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> 
> Subj: MITSUMI (105/150) From: Brice Fleckenstein To : Mike Guidry
> Date: 08/31/93 12:54:00 
> 
> 
> > BN> Would anyone be kind enough to leave me a response on what >
> BN> sound cards does mitsumi 350ms cd roms support? 
> 
> >I don't know that it directly runs off of any 
> 
> ATI FX/CD and one other that I know of (SOund Galaxy?).... 
> 
> 
>  * SLMR 2.1a * Rudolf the Red knows rain, Dear.... 
> 
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> (1:231/190) 
> 
>
Im using a soundblaster card on mine the soundblaster 16
steve krueger'


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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 4351
  To: SAL PEDONE                               Date: 09/04/93  5:33a
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sold, will call you.
-Jeff


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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 4352
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 09/04/93 12:38a
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jeff Jenkins beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

JJ>I believe you are refering to Microsoft Encarta, it runs about 250 or
JJ>so... but Comptons MM encyclopedia runs around 50.00  check out the ad
JJ>here. I have seen it  a dozon times from about 49.00-66.00

Nope. Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia for Windows is $299.00 at Comp
USA Tamp, $297.00 at Computer City Tampa, $319.00 at Babbages Tampa. It
must be a whole new animal.

Ron


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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 4353
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 09/04/93 10:42a
Subj: -=- Monthly Catalog -=-                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Michael Richard Hansen beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

MR>  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
MR>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
MR>  =-=   MONTHLY CATALOG OFFER   =-=
MR>  =-= If you are interested in

I'd like a catalog. Send to me at:

        13590 Fletcher Regency Drive
        Tampa, Florida  33613

Thanks!



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From: MATT SCHULTZ                           Number: 4354
  To: RICHARD NIXON                            Date: 09/01/93  3:07p
Subj: Re: Toshiba 3401B for SAL               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN> Hello folks, I have a new Toshiba 3401B for sale.  200ms seek time and

Hi Richard,

I'm not in the market for a CD ROM drive at the moment, but would
you mind telling me what was erased from those tape recordings. :-)
Thanks.

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From: KENNETH ROWE                           Number: 4355
  To: MIKE WAVRECAN                            Date: 09/04/93 12:03p
Subj: Re: Looking for cd rom!?                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Wavrecan to All <=-

 MW> 
 MW> Hello I'm looking for a CHEAP cdrom that will work with cd's<G> if
 MW> you know someone who has one or if you have one write back and I'll
 MW> give you my phone number also tell where your from and tell the price
 MW> and if you want games or anything else ask me I'll try to be of
 MW> accistance OK like seeya then ok so like for sure dude!BYE:-) 
I have a  Hitachi 3500 internal with controller and cable for 125.00
plus shipping.  Prepay and I will cover the shipping cost.  Plays audio
CD's as well.  Has volume and phone jack on front of system.  Ask for
Ken. 205-859-2889 CST


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From: NINO FAGAN                             Number: 4356
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/03/93  7:19p
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   Heather Krause wrote  
ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͸
ù>Maybe one of these days someone will come out with a good CD full of
ù>adult material for us ladies. And hopefully it'll be husband-proof.
ù>I'd hate for hubby to realize that I'm enjoying such things!  ;-) 
ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ;

Good for you Heather, well said!!!!

Regards, 
Nino
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From: NINO FAGAN                             Number: 4357
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/03/93  7:32p
Subj: TOSHIBA CDROM SPECIAL                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   Boris Osadciw wrote  
ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͸
ù>%%% TOSHIBA 3401 CDROM Player %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
ù> Internal Bare Drive - $389. - Bare = Drive, caddy and manual 
ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ;

Boris,
 
 That model drive came with this computer I bought.  What do I
ask for/how do I describe the caddy that came with it if I wanted
to purchase more.  I've seen ads for "Japanese Caddy" or "Sony
Caddy", amongst others.  Is this the same as the one that comes 
with the 3401B?  Wouldn't like to order a dozen or so caddies and 
they find out they were the wrong thing.  Sorry for sounding so 
ingnorant, never saw one before this computer arrived.

Regards, 
Nino
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From: PHILIPPE RENARD                        Number: 4358
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93  8:28p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 To any CD-Rom distributors.  I would be interested in recieving your CD-Rom
 catalogs.

 Send to:

   Radio Contact
   Press department
   Rue du Cerisier, 15 B
   B-4040 HERSTAL
   * BELGIUM *

Thank you,

Philippe Renard

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From: PHILIPPE RENARD                        Number: 4359
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93  8:33p
Subj: For sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Crossposted in OCCASES.BF

For sale :

The Phethean's Public Domain Library #1 for IBM & Compatibles

700 Fb - $20 - 35 DM (inlude Shipping)

Mail order (Francs Belges only) or Cash (registered mail)

Philippe Renard

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 4360
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 09/04/93  7:52a
Subj: 3DO CD ROM system                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Anuone have any information on this system? I was rading a artical that
> said it well run Animals CD an d stuff. Is the 3 DO able to hook up to
> the computer of it be a seperate game system?
> thanks on any comments..
> ken
Hi Ken,
3DO is a 32 bit game system and only can be hooked to a TV at this moment.
Drive is a Panasonic unit and other manufacturers may join following pending
agreements. Most of the existing CD-ROM titles needs to be re-tooled or
re-compiled for 3DO. If you like more info or a developer kits, you can
directly contact with them. In the near future I will be doing a direct mailing
for 3DO products. Right now we are still testing market. TTYL
 
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX 

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From: DANIEL SALLEE                          Number: 4361
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/03/93 10:54p
Subj: Forsale                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a CDR-1000 CD-rom approximatley 3 months old with Docs, installation
disk and cables forsale must sell ASAP due to upgrade.  FIrst $125.00 or best
offer takes it.  Call Dan at 602-969-9204 or Net mail me at 1:114/186.

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From: DANIEL SALLEE                          Number: 4362
  To: MIKE WAVRECAN                            Date: 09/03/93 10:57p
Subj: Looking for CD ROM!?*                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike I have a fairly cheap CD-Rom give me a call at 602-969-9204 price is
$125.00.  Unit is 3 months old have box and docs for it as well. 
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From: MOHIT GOYAL                            Number: 4363
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/04/93 10:25a
Subj: Re: OS/2                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>>>    Hello Boris!

BO>>>    Sunday August 29 1993, Boris Osadciw writes to All:

BO> BO>> ==================== OS2 ON CD For Only $65.00 ? ====================
  > BO>>                               IN STOCK
  > BO>>  Until Septemeber 14, 1993 you can purchase the complete OS/2 v2.21
  > BO>>  package, which offer's you the installation disks, cd, manuals and
  > BO>>  other special discounts for only $65.00!

BO>>>    When did OS/2 v2.21 come out?  I thought I was running the
  >>>    latest version (v2.1).  ;-)


BO>It's been out for a while now, as I understand it.

2.1 has been out for a while.  2.21 has not been released.  You have the
wrong version number Boris.

OS/2 v2.1 went GA on June 14th of this year.
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From: RANDY JOHNSON                          Number: 4364
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/04/93 12:35a
Subj: CDs For Sale                            Refer: NONE
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bj>   Encyclopedia of ClipArt
bj>   World of Flight
bj>   Mega ROM 2
bj>   World of Trains

 How about all of these? I'm local, please save them for me, I'll give you a
call on Saturday to find out where you live (I'm Clear Lake area).

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4365
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 09/03/93  7:46a
Subj: Busty Babes?                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CK> have a BB cd, and am wondering how to find what version it is?    
                                                                       
  
Look at the CD. If it has the words "Graphics Software" on it, it's a 
"Release 1" and a collector's item.  If those words are missing, check 
the DIR listing for a directory called "MICHELLA".  If it's there, you 
have a "Release 3".  If it's not there, you have a "Release 2".  There 
are several other differences between the three "releases" as well, but 
these steps will tell you which version you have - which is what you 
asked for. Ciao! 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4366
  To: THE SISTER                               Date: 09/04/93  1:18p
Subj: Adult Cd-rom Disk 4Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TS> least $60.00 out of it. But if you want both I will take  $100.0  
 TS> shipping. Both have perfect Jewel Cases. & are in very good cond  
                                                                       
  
Don't hold your breath, Sis. They can be had *NEW* on this echo for 
about half of this price. 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4367
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/03/93  7:52p
Subj: Re: "New" Busty Babes                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-02-93 12:21> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> away my copy for a Rel.1 (:>  I'm counting on you to send me a
BJ>> "Vol.2" BB - maybe even autographed??? =:)

You got a deal ! :)

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 4368
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 09/02/93  6:23p
Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>-> No, and there apparently are no plans to do so for the indefinite fut
That's
>funny, I was at a fair a couple days ago at a Britanica both, and they had it
>on CD-ROM there.

Was it the BRITANNICA, or was it their OTHER Encyclopadea?


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 4369
  To: JASON SCHWARTZ                           Date: 09/03/93 11:18a
Subj: PC-SIG                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Has anyone had any experience with the PC-SIG company?

PC-SIG is one of the longest-lasting PC-based Shareware collectors in
existance.

I don't like the way they organise their collections, but they are HIGHLY
reputable.


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4370
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/03/93 10:04p
Subj: BUSTY BABES RELEASE 2.0 C               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC>  * *  B U S T Y  B A B E S  * *  RELEASE 2.0  * * IS BACK!! * *
DC>   Will be re-released in September.  We are taking pre-orders.
DC>        The Price - $36.95.  We will meet any price on it.

Doug,

I think you're on the wrong track here.  It's my understanding that this
is a brand new disc:  Busty Babes VOLUME 2, RELEASE 1, not a re-release
of the old Busty Babes "2", (which was VOLUME 1, RELEASE 2)  Over 1000
new copyrighted scans on this one.

BTW:  We're taking pre-orders too.  Can't wait to see it.

Later,

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4371
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/03/93 10:04p
Subj: BUSTY II PRE-ORDERS!!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

           ______________________________________________________
          |                                                      |
          |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #3:  CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS   |
          |______________________________________________________|

            We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
             - Cards are not processed until date of shipment -

 BUSTY BABES II * Over 1000 new and original hi-rez scans + Showoff (a).$29
 PC-SIG 13 * Newest CD from the oldest shareware distributor............$33
 PIER 3 * 650+mb of all new material w/ no dupes to Pier 1 or 2.........$39
 SHAREWARE STUDIO 3 * 633mb and 5109 files + BBS-ready! Don't miss out..$29

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4372
  To: DAVID HARRISON                           Date: 09/03/93 10:04p
Subj: UPDATED ADULT CD PRICES                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DH>Hey mike, seeing as you sale a high volume of CD's, I was wondering if you
DH>or somebody else on this echo that has the data available could post a chart
DH>of dupes, sizes, percentages, ect. on maybe 4 or 5 of the top BBS-READY cd's
DH>on the market right now (along with their average price ranges)...

David,

I'm in the process of updating my comparison chart now as some of the new
shareware titles like Shareware Online 2, Software Vault Gold, Shareware
Studio 3, and others are trickling in.  I'm just not sure I want to post it
here because of all the whining and griping that went on last time it was
displayed. <g>

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4373
  To: MARK SMITKA                              Date: 09/03/93 10:04p
Subj: Grammy cd                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>Have you got "The Grammy's" (Grammy Awards on CD)? If so, what're you asking
MS>for it?

Mark,

We sure do.  They are priced at $36 in the full retail box.  Let me know if
you'd like one and we can ship same day for ya.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4374
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/03/93 10:04p
Subj: NEW SHAREWARE CD 4-PAK!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            __________________________________     _____________
           |                                  |   |             |
           | Title:  SHAREWARE EXPLORER 4-PAK |   | Price:  $54 |
           |__________________________________|   |_____________|

     This great 4-volume shareware CD set is brought to you by the same
     folks who did the 5-Star Premium series, and is every bit as well-
     organized and up-to-date as the 5-Star CD's were.  Are you tired of
     the old, poorly organized shareware CD sets?  You won't be
     disappointed with Shareware Explorer - we guarantee it!

     * Over 26,000 total files (1992/1993)
     * Less than 1% duplication between CD's.
     * 3 volumes are DOS, and 1 is Windows shareware (7000 files)
     * BBS-ready with PC-Board and FILES.BBS file listings.
     * EZ-Access menu program.

                    >> IN STOCK FOR IMMEDIATE DELIVERY! <<

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4375
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/03/93 10:04p
Subj: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUEAUT                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>BJ>> Yes, put me down for a BB Vol II when you get some.

LN>Hehehehe, your gonna like this disc :) It will be on the streets in
Septemebe
LN>for sure--

Lee,

Bob is looking for an old Busty "Release 2", not the new one, although I'm
sure he'll want one of those also.  8)  Can you give us some more details on
this new disc?  All I saw was an initial promo blurb with no real details.
Will the cover be similar?  How many total images?  What resolution?  Can you
finally put an end to all the public confusion over Busty's various release
numbers and volume numbers?  And also, is Vol 1 Release 1 REALLY worth
$400????????  Inquiring minds want to know.  8)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4376
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/03/93 10:04p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC> > only please.  Thank you!
DC> DS> What make BB #1 so valuable?

DC>It has copyrighted scans on it...

And that's not all.  8)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4377
  To: VINICIO CAVALLINI                        Date: 09/03/93 10:24p
Subj: ORDER                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Vinicio,

Sorry about the oversight on your order.  The extra Seedy-ROM #7 shipped
out on Aug 27 by Air Mail.  I've also credited your account for the $4.00
error.

Thanks,
.\\ike

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From: MICHAEL KOKOTT                         Number: 4378
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/02/93  8:53p
Subj: Re: Busty babes #1                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Doug Carpenter@1:362/119 meinte am 31.08.93
zum Thema "Busty babes #1":

> Release 2.0 of the original version will be out again this month.
>
Hello Doug,

whats the price for that cd? and is it possible to send it to Germany?

greetings

Michael--
** Beispiel-Signatur f�r ”ffentliche Nachrichten **

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From: PEYTON NORMAN                          Number: 4379
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/04/93  9:31a
Subj: CD ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                      
                       ** CD Rom Disc Special **
                     X-Tasy BBs Vioce 1-904-492-7483

                     So Much Shareware      $10.00
                     Night Owls 2           $10.00
                     Night Owls 4           $10.00    
                     Night Owls 5           $10.00
                     Time Mag. 1992         $15.00
                     Up All Night 1993      $15.00
                     CD WinBox              $15.00
                     Publishers Dream
                     Disc w/catalog         $25.00
                     Encyclopedia of
                     Clip Art               $25.00           
                     Dictionaries & lang.   $10.00
                     Game Master 2          $10.00
                     Windowware             $10.00
                     Shareware Gold         $12.00
                     World of Ham Radio     $15.00
                     Cookbook               $10.00
                     Shareware Studio 2     $10.00
                     Publishers Paradice    $20.00
                     Romware Mag.           $8.00
                     Sherlock Holmes game   $15.00
                     Sleeping Beauty        $12.00

                  CALL X-Tasy BBS  line #1  492-9817
                                   line #2  492-9821
                          VOICE 1-904-492-7483

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From: KEVIN RICH                             Number: 4380
  To: ANDREW SETO                              Date: 09/03/93  5:45p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Cd-Rom For Sa               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please forgive me  but what was the price? I can be reached easiest on my BBS
615-837-0014 or where may I reach you?
Thanks

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4381
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/04/93  5:56p
Subj: labor day cdrom specials                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

           PCJ "Hot" Labor Day Sale - Thru 9/9/93
 
All Chestnut Titles (15).$ 11.95  Phoenix 3.0............... 12.95
Battlechess............... 21.95  Phoenix 4.0 (New)......... 23.95
Compton's Interactive '93. 88.95  Prophone '92 (3 CDs)...... 29.95
Global Explorer........... 84.95  Reference Library (STW)... 17.95
Hamware 1993.............. 23.95  Software Vault 2.......... 21.95
My First Time............. 34.95  Time Almanac 1990......... 12.95
Peter & the Wolf.......... 18.95  ** While Quantities Last **
 
   Orders - 800-547-7817 (9-9 EST) / 615-339-0235 (24 Hours)

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From: CHRIS WISE                             Number: 4382
  To: MARK RICHARDSON                          Date: 09/04/93  9:10a
Subj: Cdrom games                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          Mark Richardson wrote 
----------------------------------------
>> the SbPro directly or do cd games just access my SBPro the way regular
>> games on the hard drive do?  any information Appreciated.
----------------------------------------

   Just taking a guess that you have a Mitsumi?  The reason why I guess
this is because the CD line has two wires switched, and they have to be
reversed for them to work.  There is three ways to do this -- 1. To buy
the adapter for it.  2. Splice the line and switch the wires. 3. You
will note a tab on the CD line, if you shave this flush you will be able
to flip the connector over, and I have heard (have not tried it) that
this will work.

   I just hooked the line to the controller card, and selected the SBpro
on the game menu, and it uses the bus instead of the CD line to transfer
the sound...

Lee Christopher Wise
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From: RON RICHMOND                           Number: 4383
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/03/93 12:18p
Subj: Re: canadian sales                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>We have shipped hundreds of adult cd's to Canada and never had a problem
BO>with customes. In fact, we just shipped a major order to Ontario and the
BO>customer received it with ease and NO CUSTOM FEE's.

Thanks for your interest Boris, I purchased my ROM Drive from you and am still
very satisfied with the purchase,and your follow up.
===
 * SLMR 2.0 #376 * America borders on the magnificent....Canada !!!


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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 4384
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/04/93 11:40a
Subj: Re: CDs For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Bob Jackson to All <=-


Bob, I called and left a message on your machine about wanting the
disks below: I am in and out this weekend (labor day) so please
let me know if they are still available - 713-347-6948 if I don't
catch you first.  Thanks.

 Encyclopedia of ClipArt
 World of Flight
 Bibles & Religion
 Phoenix 3.0
 Dictionaries & Languages 




... Just wanted to ACHAT with ya!
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From: BRYNE BOTTOMS                          Number: 4385
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/04/93  9:32a
Subj: Canadian sales                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to Ron Richmond, Boris Osadciw said:
BO->>>    To ALL.
BO->>>          I had ordered Busty Babes vol.2 from Dave and it was
BO->>>       held at the border. The P.O. would not return it to Dave
BO->>>       and when I called Fed.Ex they estimated $24 to $36 Can.
BO->>>       depending on actual weight,to send it back. Estimated only,
BO->>>       because I cannot get the disk to them from Customs.and they
BO->>>       would have to pick it up at the P.O. I chose to abandon the
BO->>>       disk, as this would be almost as much as the original cost.
BO->>>       Customs would not tell me which disks would be stopped.
BO->>>       Canadians would be well advised to order from Vince and
BO->>>       Michellea Sorensen. Ron.

BO->We have shipped hundreds of adult cd's to Canada and never
BO->had a problem
BO->with customes. In fact, we just shipped a major order to
BO->Ontario and the
BO->customer received it with ease and NO CUSTOM FEE's.

BO->I guess it's all in the way you ship your products and or
BO->handle the
BO->matterial.

BO->On another note, customes will ship the package back if it
BO->is so stated
BO->on the package. Even if it is not allowed to enter the
BO->country, it will be
BO->returned to the shipper at his/her expense. This again is
BO->only true if the
BO->shipper has stated this on the package.

BO->Just a few cents worth......

BO->Boris Osadciw

BO->... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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I got my Adult CD's from the U.S yesterday with no problem at all and also no
customs fees were added either.
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From: ED JUNE                                Number: 4386
  To: KEN TULLY                                Date: 09/04/93  9:51a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes V1.0                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ken Tully wrote in a message to Rick Shoaf:


KT> The original copy has the BAMBAM Logo on it, and the disk
KT> contains material that was not put on subsiquent editions. 
KT> It is a VERY special disk.  Anyone interested will have to
KT> reply to me here before the 1st of Sept. 


Mine has the twin BamBam Logo on it.
What's the extra material?



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From: ED JUNE                                Number: 4387
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/04/93  9:55a
Subj: BB #1 ID, how?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HOW does one *positively* identify a BB#1?
The BamBam Logo?
I have that, what else?



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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4388
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/04/93 10:05a
Subj: SUPER VALUES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi people!

   We've got some great deals on some '93 CD-ROMs... these are
Overstock Liquidations at, near, or below cost while current
INSTOCK quanitities last! They are:

                                        Cdn$   US$
            ProPhone 1993 7-disc set      SOLD OUT
            American Business Phonebook   SOLD OUT
            Erotic Encounters Vol. II     35    26
            Foxes                         25    19
            Busty Babes Release 3.0       25    19
            Shareware Studio II           20    16
            Night Owl 9                   35    26

     Shareware Studio I Free with purchase of Night Owl 9

     C ya soon!
     .\\ichellea
     306-789-4654
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From: GLENN CAREY                            Number: 4389
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 09/04/93  4:57p
Subj: Re: Elysian Archive /Amiga              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  *In a message dated 01 Sep 93  23:41:00 Ismail Arslangiray writes:

IA> Coming Soon!....
IA>
IA>              Elysian Archive
IA>   Welcome to the World of Amiga...
IA>
IA>   Finally, an Amiga CD-ROM designed for BBS'!..
IA>
IA>   * Games
IA>   * Utilities for all Amiga Models
IA>   * Tracker Modules(ST/NT/MED)
IA>   * Demos of commercial software
IA>   * Eurodemos
IA>   * Animations
IA>   * 24 bit images
IA>   * Programming
IA>
IA>   CD Specifications
IA>   * ISO9660 format; readable by Amigas and PC's
IA>   * File names are in 8.3 format for compatibility
IA>   * Over 6000 files
IA>   * Over 600 Megabytes
IA>
IA>   Produced by TFS
IA>   Published and Distributed by GroupWare
IA>
IA> --- DB 1.53/002199
IA>  * Origin: GroupWare-Voice:1-800-373-0628 Fax:1-206-473-1634
IA> (1:138/116)
IA>

Please let me know when this disk is ready to ship and the cost
Thanks
Glenn


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4390
  To: DICK HUDDLESTON                          Date: 09/04/93  6:47p
Subj: Re: Showoff Interface                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-02-93 11:46> Dick Huddleston wrote:

DH>> the right colors on my screen. (I have a VGA monitor with a Paradise
DH>> 16 card - WD chip).  I called the 800 number for help, and Dan Graboi
DH>> was very helpful, but said I needed SVGA card to really see the
DH>> colors.

Sorry to hear of your problems, perhaps oneday you will have yourself a SVGA
card--It makes all the difference in the world !

DH>> The idea of having multiple miniature images on the screen is nice,
DH>> but if one can't see them, not too good.  Also, I don't run a mouse
DH>> unless needed, and don't load the driver for it.

Without an SVGA card, you would experience this type of difficulty--

DH>> I believe the instructions should state that SVGA is required if it
DH>> is,
DH>> and that a mouse is required.  Not everyone has those yet.

Good point.

DH>> I resorted to the old familiar Cshow and CDMENU, and reviewed most of
DH>> the directories.  Fun CD.

Good thinking ! We apologize for your troubles.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4391
  To: CARL SLAWINSKI                           Date: 09/04/93  6:54p
Subj: BBSCon                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-02-93 21:10> Carl Slawinski wrote:

CS>> What's the story on Busty Babes and such. At ONE BBSCON you stated
CS>> that you were no longer selling BB and the others and that you would
CS>> come out with some new ones.

That is correct.

CS>> Of course, I heard that you had dropped it and also I live in
CS>> one of the cities on your list. I picked up Busty Babes from the
CS>> Chicago something or other CD booth.

As you know I sat on the panel for "Adult Images", and if your in one of those
States I mentioned, reconsider dropping the adult section from your BBS--Follow
Boardwatch magazine starting with Sept issue for good reason.

CS>> Chicago something or other CD booth. He said that he bought them
CS>> directly from you and I was curious, why you would have him sell them
CS>> at ONE BBSCON if you were in fact dropping them and recommending that
CS>> they not me placed on BBS'.

For private collections--Not all sysops buy CD's for their BBS, they also buy
them for their own personal recreation.

A public area like this is monitored by authorities, and its not that I am
skirting the issue, it's that I am not comfortable talking about the Adult CD
industry in this echo--

CS>> Are these new disks that you are producing suitable for a market such
CS>> as say.......Memphis, Tn??  8-)

You would should consult a first ammendment attorney in your area for these
answers--I would be speaking out of tongue to say what I feel your State will
tolerate.

CS>> Thanks for any info that you can provide me with in this area.

WOuld love to talk to you but not in this echo or others--Netmail be 3618/23
and I will be a little more relaxed about the issue in which you address.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4392
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93 11:52p
Subj: Labor Day CDROM SALE                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

           PCJ "Hot" Labor Day Sale - Thru 9/9/93
 
All Chestnut Titles (15).$ 11.95  Phoenix 3.0............... 12.95
Battlechess............... 21.95  Phoenix 4.0 (New)......... 23.95
Compton's Interactive '93. 88.95  Prophone '92 (3 CDs)...... 29.95
Global Explorer........... 84.95  Reference Library (STW)... 17.95
Hamware 1993.............. 23.95  Software Vault 2.......... 21.95
My First Time............. 34.95  Time Almanac 1990......... 12.95
Peter & the Wolf.......... 18.95  ** While Quantities Last **
 
   Orders - 800-547-7817 (9-9 EST) / 615-339-0235 (24 Hours)

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4393
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93 11:52p
Subj: Busty 2.0 Preorders                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  * *  B U S T Y  B A B E S  * *  RELEASE 2.0  * * IS BACK!! * *
   Will be re-released in September.  We are taking pre-orders.
        The Price - $27.95.  We will meet any price on it.
 
Features:  675+ MB of Erotica Viewing Pleasure - 1,000 Copyrited
           High Resolution VGA/SVGA Pics including the Busty Babes
           Fully BBS Ready with text files in Files.BBS format
           New Show Off Interface with easy menu installation
 
PCJ Computing-Voice 615-339-0235/Fax 615-479-1047/Orders 800-547-7817

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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 4394
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 09/02/93  9:00p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bruce, I overheard you reply to someone that the mitsumi is compatible
with sound galaxy.  I tried to hook mine through th sg but to no avail.
 Do you know what I might be dooing wrong?

Thanks a million!


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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 4395
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 09/03/93  7:36p
Subj: Seventh Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry it's gone.  don't give up  their prices keep coming down.  Also
here there's a sequel coming out.

thanks a million!


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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 4396
  To: CHRIS JOHNSON                            Date: 09/03/93  7:38p
Subj: Seventh Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry it's gone.  Keep looking there still out there.  Keep an eye out
for the sequel.


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4397
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 09/05/93  1:50a
Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare
>>    -$1199. Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts
>>    CD's ALL $10.00ec ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tell me a
>>    little about groilers/and difference between dos v5 & win v1.

>>    Thanks a Million

Glad to help....

Boris Osadciw

... Oh never mind!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4398
  To: MICHAEL INGRAM                           Date: 09/05/93  1:50a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>> Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
BO>>   ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759
BO>>
>>    I need a CD Changer but prolly a little more than Bare Bones...
>>    DOnt know a thing about installing these.  Please send one of
>>    your more attractive secreataries (or at least heavy doc's)<G>
>>     with any order I happen to place to help in installation!

Well, we can do that!! Sure, lets see Air Fare, Meals, $40. hrs,
uhmmm....looks like we'll need to add another $2,000. - $3,000. to
the cost of the unit......grin -:)

On a more serious note, it's really not that hard to install and the
manuals are pretty clear.

We've sold hundreds of these units and some of the users right here have
installed them with easy....just ask.....  It's like anything else, it's
only as hard as you make it and if you run a BBS, installing it is harder
than installing a 6-pack online.

>>    I currently have a standard ISA 386/40DX type BBS operating
>>    under DV. Need pricing information for anything that may be
>>    needed in my quest... Also wanna know what it'll charge me to
>>    get a complete set with CD's to load those precious slots...
>>    Saw somebodys ad somehere for a changer, loaded with choices
>>    of BBS type cd's.  Was that you by chance?

Michael, if you go with the DMR600, it'll cost you $799. for the unit
and an extra $100. for the controller, drivers cna cable. If you go 
with the DMR604X, it'll cost you $1199. plus $175. for the controller,
drivers and cable. As for cd's to fill the unit, here again the price can
varie, since there are a number to chose from, but as a guide, you can
say you'd spend about $25. per cd.

If you need further information, I suggest you give us a call or drop us
a note via the node/net number below as the moderator gets upset and loses
some hair with this type of conversations in the echo's.

Your welcome to call us anytime 7 days a week.

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4399
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 09/05/93  1:50a
Subj: Re: NEW CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Boris,

>>    Answering a msg of <30 Aug 93>, from Boris Osadciw to All:

>>    whats the total MB's in the 4disk set that you just
>>    advertised?  Might be talking to you soon if its a decent
>>    amount...


Ahhh,which 4 disk set do you need the MB's on Ed, we have two new ones
in stock now?

Chat with you soon....

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4400
  To: JASON SCHWARTZ                           Date: 09/05/93  1:50a
Subj: Re: RED HOT                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I'm interested in the "Jokes/Pranks or 1001 Util" CD. Could
>>    you please give me more details as to what it contains? THANKS
>>    A LOT!!

OK Jason, "1001 Util's" contains just that, over 1,000 assorted 
shareware programs from hard drive to floppies, from ram to networking.
As for the "Jokes/Pranks", it's a collection of funny screen blankers to
various text file jokes and more. Both cd's are a collection of shareware
programs and offer a menu driven screen.

Interested, please feel free to give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime
7 days a week and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... What Bug! I left behind the roaches in New York!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4401
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/05/93  1:50a
Subj: Re: U.S. Mail                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Especially that last one!  Even with insurance, it's taken me
>>    over a month to get a settlement through the Post Office for a
>>    lost package, where UPS has settled with me in less than a
>>    week in both the two instances (over 6 years) where they lost
>>    something.  Maybe I'm missing something, but when given a
>>    choice between the two, I always stick with UPS.

Good for you Mike, but personally, this has no place here and how we
got on this subject ???

Like they always say " If it works for you and your happy, stick with
it".

In our case it doesn't, not with equipment!!......end of thread.

Sorry moderator

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4402
  To: CRIS BOYER                               Date: 09/05/93  1:50a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>     Can anyone tell me where to find a good, cheap CDROM drive I
>>     can get around or in the city of Royal Oak,Michigan? Thanx.

I can't say where you could find around there, but we have a brand
new ( closeout ) internal scsi base Phillips for only $185.

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy
to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4403
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/05/93  1:50a
Subj: NEW DR.CD's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

)))))))))))))))))))))) H O T  N E W  C D ' S ((((((((((((((((((((((

DR. MUSIC - Music Editors, MOD, MIDI, ROL, SND, VOC, WAV and more!
DR. SHAREWARE - 615 megs of shareware programs and utilities!
DR. GAMES - 600+ megs of Adventure, Arcade, Card, Sports and more!
DR. WINDOWS - 3,440 files of window programs and utilities!
        All BBS READY !! - BUY 5 AND GET THE 6TH ONE FREE !!
               Price - $59.00 for all 4 or $20.00ec

ORDER LINE ONLY - 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress makes it's motion picture debut as the "The Emailator"!
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 4404
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 09/03/93  7:11p
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>                                        Cdn$   US$
MS>            Busty Babes                   25    19

   How do I go about ordering this?
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?


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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 4405
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/04/93 11:50p
Subj: Anniversary Sale!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                         The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 1-800-289-1ROM  FAX: (314) 521-7453
        $89.00         International 314-521-4862     $89.00

                        FREE OVERNIGHT SHIPPING!

  *******************  ANNUAL ANNIVERSARY SALE ****************************

Soooo... everyone wants a bargain nowadays... and we would like to
give you one!  We want to say thank you to the thousands of customers
who buy from us every month... so once again we will be holding our
anniversary sale!  Check this one out!

        - Shareware Explorer: Four Disk Set, 26,000 files, files dated
          through the first week of August, 1993! (less than a month
          old!) By far one of the most popular disks we have had in
          stock this year! We have sold over 1000 of these since they
          have been released 10 days ago!

        - Night Owl's Graphics:  Night Owl has always had some of the
          highest quality disks on the market.  Now they have released
          an EXCELLENT graphics disk.. containing nothing
          but the FINEST graphics files available.  Over 600 megs!

        - Shareware Online II:  The latest from CMS software... the
          disk is less than 2 weeks old!  1993 files GALORE!  A must for
          the serious SYSOP or Shareware enthusiast.

        - Phoenix 4.0... what else can we say.  Phoenix has a draw just
          by it's name.  THOUSANDS of files, with over 600 megs.  Less
          than 1% duplication to Phoenix 3.0!

So.. we have put them all together in a NON duplicating package...
giving you over 36,000 different files to enjoy.  Each disk contains BBS
file descriptions, AND an it's own "access" software for complete search
and retrieve utilities.

Oh.. and did we mention????

**********************  FREE OVERNIGHT SHIPPING ***********************

Order up until 7:00pm Monday thru Thursday and receive your package the
next day with absolutely NO SHIPPING CHARGES!  Folks.. if you have been
looking to add or begin your CDROM shareware library... don't miss this
one.. you can't pass this up.

Just want one of the above?  Give us a call!  We won't disappoint you!

THESE ARE BRAND NEW RELEASED DISKS.. NOT STUFF THAT AIN'T MOVIN.. JUST A
WAY TO SAY THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOLKS WHO HAVE SUPPORTED THE
MARKetplace! OVER THE YEARS.


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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 4406
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/05/93 12:19a
Subj: Anniversary Sale!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                         The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 1-800-289-1ROM  FAX: (314) 521-7453
        $89.00         International 314-521-4862     $89.00

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 *******************  ANNUAL ANNIVERSARY SALE ****************************

Soooo... everyone wants a bargain nowadays... and we would like to
give you one!  We want to say thank you to the thousands of customers
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anniversary sale!  Check this one out!

        - Shareware Explorer: Four Disk Set, 26,000 files, files dated
          through the first week of August, 1993! (less than a month
          old!) By far one of the most popular disks we have had in
          stock this year! We have sold over 1000 of these since they
          have been released 10 days ago!

        - Night Owl's Graphics:  Night Owl has always had some of the
          highest quality disks on the market.  Now they have released
          an EXCELLENT graphics disk.. containing nothing
          but the FINEST graphics files available.  Over 600 megs!

        - Shareware Online II:  The latest from CMS software... the
          disk is less than 2 weeks old!  1993 files GALORE!  A must for
          the serious SYSOP or Shareware enthusiast.

        - Phoenix 4.0... what else can we say.  Phoenix has a draw just
          by it's name.  THOUSANDS of files, with over 600 megs.  Less
          than 1% duplication to Phoenix 3.0!

So.. we have put them all together in a NON duplicating package...
giving you over 36,000 different files to enjoy.  Each disk contains BBS
file descriptions, AND an it's own "access" software for complete search
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Oh.. and did we mention????

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Just want one of the above?  Give us a call!  We won't disappoint you!

THESE ARE BRAND NEW RELEASED DISKS.. NOT STUFF THAT AIN'T MOVIN.. JUST A
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From: DANNY TONG                             Number: 4407
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/04/93  4:52a
Subj: Mod, 669 or wav on cd-rom               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Has anybody seen a CD-ROM with MOD, 669 or WAV for sale?

 * SLMR 2.1a * Why look at docs when I can look at nurses?


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 4408
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/04/93 11:13a
Subj: OS/2                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Boris!

Friday September 03 1993, Boris Osadciw writes to Dave Reed:

 BO>>> ==================== OS2 ON CD For Only $65.00 ? ====================
 BO>>> IN STOCK
 BO>>> Until Septemeber 14, 1993 you can purchase the complete OS/2 v2.21
 BO>>> package, which offer's you the installation disks, cd, manuals and
 BO>>> other special discounts for only $65.00!

 >>> When did OS/2 v2.21 come out?  I thought I was running the
 >>> latest version (v2.1).  ;-)

 BO> It's been out for a while now, as I understand it.

According to your ad, it's "IN STOCK," so I suggest you grab one off that big
shelf of yours and look at it.  I'm sure that you'll find it is "Version 2.1."
But, on the other hand, you probably don't have them in stock, and are only
relating the information your distributor gave you (obviously NOT IBM), so we
can't fault you for that.

I little lesson I learned long ago (Ismail should pay attention to this, too):
If you always tell the truth, you don't have to worry about trying to keep the
story straight, and you won't ever have to worry about looking like a fool,
when someone discovers that you don't have the faintest idea of what you're
talking about.



... Impeach Clinton!  (Bill, too!)

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 4409
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 09/04/93 11:20a
Subj: 3DO CD ROM system                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Ismail!

Saturday September 04 1993, Ismail Arslangiray writes to Ken Matthews:

 IA> 3DO is a 32 bit game system and only can be hooked to a TV at this moment.
 IA> Drive is a Panasonic unit and other manufacturers may join following
 IA> pending agreements. Most of the existing CD-ROM titles needs to be
 IA> re-tooled

Uh... how does one "re-tool" a CD-ROM title?



... CLINTON - The courage to quit! ??

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 4410
  To: J. ALLEN                                 Date: 09/04/93  3:21p
Subj: Jem Disk CD-Rom Trade In Sale           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello J.!

Thursday September 02 1993, J. Allen writes to Michael Crosson:

 JA>     Where's the Beef???

What is it with you?  Every post you put into this conference, you're trying to
stirr sh!t up with the dealers.  Why don't you take your whiney little ass off
to Free Spirit and stay there?


... Grow your own dope... plant a liberal!

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 4411
  To: MICHAEL COLLIER                          Date: 09/04/93  8:17p
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Michael!

Friday September 03 1993, Michael Collier writes to Heather Krause:

 MC>   I think a good idea might be, ala Ms. Sorensen from up here in Canada,
 MC> for the CDrom vendors in this conference, most of which are male, to
 MC> graciously donate pictures of themselves au natural (and more!)

Only problem is: finding a wide-angle lens big enough.  ;-)



... Clinton Cruise Lines - Taking America for a Ride!

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From: GARY KIMBRELL                          Number: 4412
  To: JOHN PIMENTEL                            Date: 09/05/93  3:37a
Subj: RE: CD CADDIES                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Where (other than Mike Shannon -- NOTE nothing against Mike, but I need a
> comparison) can CD Caddies be bought and how much??
> 
They sure can. :-) I bought mine from Mike Shannon for $4.95. My next order I
will get another one. I only have two right now and they sure do come in
handy.

Gary
NEC3657

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From: BOB CENTERBAR                          Number: 4413
  To: CHARLEY WEBB                             Date: 09/05/93  9:26a
Subj: wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 09-03-93 CHARLEY WEBB wrote to ALL... 
 
 CW> I am looking for 2 Sony CDU-535-1 CD-Rom drives. If anyone is selling 
 CW> one, 
 CW> leave me a message and a price. 
 CW>  
 
I've got an internal 535 with controller card & cable for $200.00, reply 
here or call 817-699-6525. 
 
Later....Bob 
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From: RUSS MICHAELSON                        Number: 4414
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/05/93  1:28a
Subj: CDs For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        BOB, I'd like the following CDROMs:

CD Winbox
CD Powerbox
Encyclopedia of ClipArt
World of Trains
SDN-1 Plus
Mega Win/OS2

        Please confirm the sale and give your address to send $$$.

        Russ
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4415
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 09/05/93  8:05a
Subj: Review: Southern Beauties               Refer: NONE
Read: 09/20/93  6:51a                       Private: No 

Thanks, Tim. Let me know if I get too "racy" - I try to be mindful that 
"children of all ages" read this echo. I'm trying to inform, not offend.  I
appreciate your feedback. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4416
  To: DICK HUDDLESTON                          Date: 09/05/93  8:06a
Subj: Re: CDs For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I left you a couple of phone messages. I'm holding all 5 for you. I'm out  in
Clear Lake.  
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4417
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/05/93  8:08a
Subj: Re: "New" Busty Babes                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Oooooooooooooooooo! Hugs! Hugs! HUgs!  BTW: Didja read any of my latest 
reviews? Wadja think? 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4418
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/05/93 11:27a
Subj: Going...Going....                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

almost GONE! Of all the shareware CDs I was unloading, there's only *ONE* 
left: Chestnut's "Ham Radio". This is now offered in a package consisting  of
itself, O'Conner "Disk 1" shareware (an oldie), and a Profit  Publishing Mega
DEMO CD - the one with the CD-ROM drive benchmark  programs on it, plus a *LOT*
of samples of other stuff. The whole nine  yards goes to the first $10 -
shipping included anywhere in U.S. Confirm  purchase *ONLY* by calling (713)
488-0065. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4419
  To: ED JUNE                                  Date: 09/05/93  9:08a
Subj: Re: BB #1 ID, how?                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Ed June to All <=-

 EJ> HOW does one *positively* identify a BB#1?
 EJ> The BamBam Logo?
 EJ> I have that, what else?

Well, look for the words "Graphics Software" on the CD. If they're
there, check out the DIR listing. If "XSTORY1" and "XSTORY2" are
missing, look for the "MICHELLA" directory. If it's missing as well,
you've got a "Release 1" BB! (Some of these instructions are redundant -
but you asked for "positive" ID :)  ).

... Mary had a little RAM -- only about a MEG or so.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4420
  To: STEVE KRUEGER                            Date: 09/05/93  9:11a
Subj: Re: BB cd rom                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Steve Krueger to All <=-

 SK> Hey guys...does the Busty Babes CD show any "PINK"???

Heh heh heh heh heh heh! That's got to be *THE* understatement of the
year!  Yes, you can see some "PINK" on BB, as long as you're not talking
about the hammer and sickle type of "PINK" (he said, showing his age).

... "Don't mince words, Steve ... what do you *REALLY* think?"
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4421
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/05/93  9:27a
Subj: Re: BBSCon                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Lee Noga to Carl Slawinski <=-
 CS>> What's the story on Busty Babes and such. At ONE BBSCON you stated
 CS>> that you were no longer selling BB and the others and that you would
 CS>> come out with some new ones.

 LN> That is correct.

Do I take it then that your new offerings will be more "R" rated?

 CS>> Of course, I heard that you had dropped it and also I live in
 CS>> one of the cities on your list.
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'd like to see this list. Would you mail me a copy?

 LN> As you know I sat on the panel for "Adult Images", and if your in one
 LN> of those States I mentioned,
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Are there others besides Oklahoma, Florida, Alabama, and Utah?

 LN> A public area like this is monitored by authorities,
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I can understand this, but isn't it a pity we have to be afraid of our
own Government?  "Big Brother" *IS* listening!

... "Don't mince words, Lee ... what do you *REALLY* think?"
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4422
  To: JOHN PIMENTEL                            Date: 09/05/93  9:32a
Subj: Re: CD CADDIES                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting John Pimentel to All <=-

 JP> Where (other than Mike Shannon -- NOTE nothing against Mike, but I
 JP> need a comparison) can CD Caddies be bought and how much??

Profit Publishing in Arizona (see ads in back of PC mags) sells caddies
for $4.75 (any quantity) with purchase of a CD. They're the producers of
the FAO and the MEGA series of CDs. Nice folks to deal with - just like
Mike.

... Blue Wave - World Tour - 1993
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From: DANNY BRIGANCE                         Number: 4423
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/05/93 10:53a
Subj: Bible CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

Can anyone give me any info about the various Bible CD's.  I am interested in
purchasing one but am not sure which one to get.  I have seen the Bible
Library, Bibles & Religion, Holy Bible, and Interactive Bible.  Any comments
would be appreciated.  Thanks.....

Danny

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From: TIM ETHERIDGE                          Number: 4424
  To: BURL ETHERIDGE                           Date: 09/05/93  1:54a
Subj: test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey-
Howzit?

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From: DOUG SNELL                             Number: 4425
  To: HARVEY BRODY                             Date: 09/04/93  9:15p
Subj: Dealer?                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Harvey,
    Do you deal in Cdrom's. If so could you Netmail me prices on Adult CD's?

                    Doug

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From: CHARLES ROBERTS                        Number: 4426
  To: MOHIT GOYAL                              Date: 09/04/93  7:46p
Subj: future wars                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The only difference as far as I know is a background music soundtrack.
The CD plays in music mode, and the sound comes out through the
headphone jack.
Did you like this game?  Talk about hunt the pixel puzzles, this one
is full of them. I don't have the patience to finish it.

By the way, I have also decided to sell (or trade) Secret Weapons of
the Luftwaffe for $20

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4427
  To: JASON SCHWARTZ                           Date: 09/05/93  8:05p
Subj: PC-SIG                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JS>   Can you please give me some details on what 
 JS> Nightowl is? I don't know
 JS> anything about it. THANKS!!

Nightowl is an all shareware CDROM disc...it has roughly 50 categories of files
like you would find on most BBS systems such as shareware games, dos utilities,
windows programs, gifs, etc.  They publish a new disc with the latest files
about 2 times a year.  They have always been the leader in the market until the
past year or so, where others have started coming out with quality CDs
also....such as Software Vault 2, and the new Big Sky this fall ought to be
awesome.  Hope that helps.  We have it in stock and will meet any advertised
price on this echo.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4428
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/05/93  8:13p
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 HK>     Maybe one of these days someone will come out 
 HK> with a good CD full of
 HK>     adult material for us ladies. And hopefully 
 HK> it'll be husband-proof.
 HK>     I'd hate for hubby to realize that I'm enjoying such things!  ;-)

 HK>     Just to keep this on track as a "For Sale" message... Does anyone
 HK>     know of an adult CD which is slanted toward females? Title and
 HK>     price, dealers?

Hot Hunks......$38.95....615-339-0235 24 hours to order.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4429
  To: MARC KULAK                               Date: 09/05/93  8:17p
Subj: CDs                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MK> I am in Canada and would like Price List for People 
 MK> and COmpanies in the States, I am a Distributer.  
 MK> Please Mail me at

Call Faye at Tradeshows.....317-651-1223.  Tell her Doug Carpenter sent ya <g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4430
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 09/05/93  8:18p
Subj: <> CD-ROM TITLES & MORE <>              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DS> HI there, do you have 7th Guess, and how much is it?

That would be 7th Guest.  We have it in stock at $39.  Call 615-339-0235 24
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4431
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/05/93  8:24p
Subj: NEW CD-ROM TITLES GALORE                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS>  FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-
 
Mike, I'll take one of those COD if you would.  I'm going to get into selling
firearms shortly and it would come in handy.
 
Send to PCJ, 323 TN Nursery Rd., Cleveland, TN  37311.  

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4432
  To: STEVE BERRY                              Date: 09/05/93  8:26p
Subj: Wondering...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SB> What is the BEST Files.BBS Formated BBS CD rom out 
 SB> at this time? for use on 
 SB> ANY bbs to be a little more critical?

Nightowl 9 has a Files.BBS in each subdirectory.  We have it in stock at
$25....call 615-339-0235 24 hours to order.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4433
  To: THE SISTER                               Date: 09/05/93  8:27p
Subj: Adult Cd-rom Disk 4Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TS> old. It contains over
 TS> 600+ megs of ADult files. This Disk was Banned in 
 TS> Japan. I have used it
 
Storm III and all the other 80+ ADULT cd titles are banned in Japan.  They have
strict customs regulations against pornography of any sort.  They even ban a
lot of normal art pictures.
 
 TS> the females are BBS ad
 TS> Free. I paid $79.00 plus shipping for it I am asking $65.00 plus
 TS> shipping. 
 
That's a little steep.  We have it in stock every day of the week for $28.95
plus shipping.
 
 TS> for $169.00 It is also completly menu driven. If includes Grasp/Dl/Fli
 TS> Gif & Text files. There are over 100 files here. I 
 TS> would like to get at
 TS> least $60.00 out of it. But if you want both I will take  $100.00 plus
 
Someone would have to be absolutely crazy to pay $60 for only 100 files on that
particular CD series.  For 1/3 of that you can get Moving Fantasies that has
over 330 animations which is more than the Animation Fantasies 1 and 2
combined.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4434
  To: JOHN PIMENTEL                            Date: 09/05/93  8:34p
Subj: CD CADDIES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JP> Where (other than Mike Shannon -- NOTE nothing 
 JP> against Mike, but I need a comparison) can CD 
 JP> Caddies be bought and how much??

We sell them every day in any quantity for $4.95 each...

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4435
  To: SID LEE                                  Date: 09/05/93  8:35p
Subj: U.S. Mail                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SL>  I've always understood they were pretty good in the States but 
 SL>  they are terrible in Canada. When stuff comes in from outside 
 
Mike is right on the convienence of UPS.  It beats standing in line at the post
office any day of the week.  The Post Office is a bit more reliable though.  I
have heard this from many customers and as an example, only 2 orders of mine in
all the literally hundreds of orders have been lost in the last year, and you
guessed it, both were lost by UPS.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4436
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/05/93  8:38p
Subj: CDs For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BJ> Mega Win/OS2            Mega A/V               Mega ROM 1
 BJ> Mega ROM 2
 
I'll take all your Mega stuff if in good condition.  Send COD to PCJ Computing,
323 TN Nursery Rd, Cleveland, TN  37311.  Leave me a message at 800-547-7817 if
they are going to be sent....thanks...

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4437
  To: J. ALLEN                                 Date: 09/05/93  8:40p
Subj: Re: Jem Disk CD-Rom Trade In Sale       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JA>                    Grand Total Savings  $0.00  <----  (or worse)

Good point Mr. Nader <g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4438
  To: J. ALLEN                                 Date: 09/05/93  8:41p
Subj: Re: Busty babes #1                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JA> That would make selling or reselling it copyright 
 JA> infringment.  Wasn't there 
 JA> a dealer claiming (or asking) large resell amounts 
 JA> for copies of that disks
 JA> in this echo?

Any complaints about Busty Babes should be directed to Lee Noga.

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From: JESSE SCHMELZER                        Number: 4439
  To:                                          Date: 09/05/93  5:31a
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone have the following cd's for 75 delivered??

Busty Babes 2 & 3
Aminet
Night Owl 9.0

Leave me a reply
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From: MARK ELSON                             Number: 4440
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/05/93  8:19p
Subj: Busty Babes II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris,

Are you going to carry the Busty Babes II??? If so and they are 25.00
please send me one when they are released...you should have my info on
hand...if not let me know...

Mark


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From: DON HANCOCK                            Number: 4441
  To: ERIC ENGELMANN                           Date: 09/05/93  6:52p
Subj: Re: Red Hot Summer                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Eric Engelmann to Don Hancock <=-

 DH> Expecially xBase and
 DH>         C/C++.
 EE> Leave your address, and I'll send you a brochure for EMS Professional
 EE> Shareware's July'93 C/C++ and Xbase CD-ROM libraries. The C/C++ has

    Don Hancock
    6917 SE Cooper
    Portland, OR  97206
    (503) 771-6057 
... If you don't play sports, you don't get to make all those commercials.
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4442
  To: CHRIS JOHNSON                            Date: 09/05/93 10:26p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Chris!

Have 7th Guest for sale or trade, I'm looking for memory simms, or will sell
for $40.OBO

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4443
  To: DARREN SELLER                            Date: 09/05/93 10:29p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Darren!

Have 7th Guest for sale or trade, I need some simms or will sellcd for $40. or
best offer.

Pat

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From: HARVEY BRODY                           Number: 4444
  To: DOUG SNELL                               Date: 09/05/93  7:52p
Subj: Dealer?                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

No, Doug, just a poor hacker. I would suggest that the best source of CR-ROMS
would be Processor, Nuts and Bolts, Computer Shopper, mags or a computer show,
now to forget the various echos.
                                       Harvey

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From: DONNIE RAYNOR                          Number: 4445
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/05/93  6:18p
Subj: PROBLEM with CD ROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Hi,
   I was wondering if any could shed some light on a problem that is about
 to drive me crazy? I bought a new Mitsumi internal CD-Rom and installed it
 in my 386/40mhz IBM clone. I have a SBPro sound board installed and am using
 the controler board that came with the Mitsumi to run the CD-Rom drive.
   O.K. this is where it gets strange. After installing the drive it worked
 great. Then all of a sudden it just quit working, when I would go to access
 the drive the busy light will light up but nothing happens. At that point I 
 have to boot the system. I can remove the controller and reinstall it and it
 will start working again. The drive will allow me to use it a couple of 
 times, then sooner or later when I access the drive the busy will light up 
 and just stay lit. The only way I can get the drive to turn lose of the CPU 
 is to boot it. 
   If anyone has any ideas on this one please respond.
  
                                                      Thanks,
                                                      Donnie Raynor

... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4446
  To: MICHAEL KOKOTT                           Date: 09/05/93 10:24p
Subj: Re: Busty babes #1                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MK> whats the price for that cd? and is it possible to send it to Germany?

$27.95 on all pre-orders.....yes, can be sent to Germany for less than
$10......

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4447
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/05/93 10:27p
Subj: over 21 CDROMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

             ************************************************
              PCJ ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST - Last update: 9/06
             ************************************************
             Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)  ** BBS Ready
             Orders - 800-547-7817 / Inquiries - 615-339-0235
 
 101 POSITIONS 1..(Professionally produced educational movies)...39.95
 101 POSITIONS 2..(Professionally produced educational movies)...39.95
 ADULT PALATE..(Stills from films-Hi-Rez-Windows)................29.95
 ADULT REFERENCE LIBRARY..(500 MB-2500 Gifs-Fetishes Galore).....23.95
 AFTER DARK Trilogy..(Movie shorts-video for windows included)...43.95
 ALL BEAUTIES..(Swimsuit to adult-600 meg-SVGA/Animations).......29.95
 AMATEUR MODELS..(500+ centerfold pics-All SVGA or 24 bit **)....33.95
 AMERICAN GIRLS..(High quality models/centerfolds by S. Hicks)...34.95
 ANIMATION FANTASIES I..(105 animations/moving pics).............28.95
 ANIMATION FANTASIES II..(105 animations/moving pics)............28.95
 ASIAN LADIES..(660 mb-oriental x-rated pics **).................31.95
 BEST of VIVID Clips..(Movie clips using T.M.M. technology)......39.95
 BUSTY BABES..(Gifs-800+ celebrities-amateur **).................26.95
 DEEP THROAT..(The original classic-Windows).....................42.95
 DIGITAL DANCING..(Interactive strip game).......................48.95
 DIGITAL DREAMS..(All R-SVGA-660+ mb **).........................26.95
 DIRTY TALK..(Movie-38 minutes-4 ladies).........................44.95
 DOORS of PASSION..(Interactive movie-hidden doors)..............46.95
 ECSTASY Hot Pics I..(560 mb-330 anims-470 stories-2600 gifs **).26.95
 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 1..(710 mb-4300+ gifs/viewers)................34.95
 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2..(like version 1)...........................34.95
 EXTREME DELIGHT.................................................44.95
 FOR ADULTS ONLY 2..(680+ mb-VGA/SVGA gifs-anims-games-text **)..36.95
 GBL..(Gay/Bi/Lez-400+ hard to find alternate lifesytle pics)....36.95
 GIFFY GOLD..(All R-Giffy girls-San Diego models **).............34.95
 GIRLS of VIVID 1..(500+ hand picked slides).....................39.95
 GIRLS OF VIVID 2..(500+ hand picked slides-no dupes with 1).....39.95
 HIDDEN OBSESSIONS..(Fractal compression movie-runs from DOS)....47.95
 HIGH VOLUME NUDES..(500+ great photos)..........................38.95
 HOT HUNKS..(All males)..........................................38.95
 HOUSE of SLEEPING BEAUTIES..(Adult Movies)......................46.95
 ISLAND GIRLS..(Vga gifs-swimsuits/nudes-Hawaii).................44.95
 KAMA SUTRA..(Movie clips using T.M.M. technology)...............44.95
 LEGENDS OF PORN..(Quicktime movies of the stars)................44.95
 LOCAL GIRLS..(Vga gifs-swimsuits/nudes-Hawaii)..................44.95
 LUSCIOUS LADIES.................................................34.95
 MANPOWER..(All gay-1600 gifs-SVGA-no install needed **).........34.95
 MOVING FANTASIES..(200 adult movie shorts-GL/FLI)...............25.95
 MY FIRST TIME..(80 Minutes-2 discs-movie).......................36.95
 MY PRIVATE COLLECTION I.(675 mb-SVGA gifs **)...................32.95
 MY PRIVATE COLLECTION II.(650 mb-SVGA gifs-no dupes with v1 **).32.95
 MYSTIQUE of the ORIENT..(600 meg-movies)........................44.95
 NEW WAVE HOOKERS..(Movie featuring Ginger Lynn).................44.95
 NIGHT WATCH (Interactive full-length movie).....................47.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 2..(530 mb-scans/amusements **).................25.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 3..(630 mb **)..................................25.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 4..(Best of Windy City scans **)................25.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 5..(**).........................................25.95
 PC-PIX 1..(600+ mb gifs **).....................................29.95
 PC-PIX 2..(630+ mb gifs-no dupes with v1 **)....................29.95
 PC-PIX 3..(660+ mb gifs-no dupes with v1 or v2 **)..............29.95
 PHOTO GALLERY..(R-rated-best of Penthouse shoot-Steve Hicks)....36.95
 PHONE SEX..(500 meg-erotic conversations-8/16 bit Sterso-Wav)...24.95
 PHYSICAL THERAPY..(Replacement for XXX Extreme).................21.95
 PORKWARE 1..(2024 gifs-37 targa files-660 mb)...................31.95
 PORKWARE 2..(3308 gifs-135 movies-648 mb).......................31.95
 PRIVATE PICTURES 1..(600 images-70 mini-movies).................35.95
 RIMFIRE PACIFIC..(Best of adult movie clips)....................44.95
 SEEDY Rom #1....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #2....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #3....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #4....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #5....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #6....................................................24.95
 SEEDY ROM 6-Pak..(29,000+ files-no dupes-gifs/anims/text)......128.95
 SEEDY ROM 7th Heaven..(2900+ gifs)..............................30.95
 SEEDY ROM MOVIE Disc..(Best of amateur/profsnl-60+ minutes).....38.95
 SEYMORE BUTTS (Interactive movie disc-100+ minutes-Windows).....47.95
 SMUTWARE..(640+ mb-1000 SVGA gifs-2000 VGA gifs-100 anims **)...26.95
 SO MUCH STAREWARE..(579 mb-2600 gifs-text-200 anims-sound **)...31.95
 SOUTHERN BEAUTIES..(1000+ gifs-all new-SVGA from slides)........29.95
 STORM I..(700+ mb-5268 VGA gifs-87 anims-574 stories **)........22.95
 STORM II..(656+ mb-VGA/SVGA gifs-slide shows **)................22.95
 STORM III..(3000+ stills-half gay **)...........................22.95
 STORM 3-Pak..(ALL 3 CDs)........................................67.95
 TOTAL FANTASY 1..(From Denmark-3750+ gifs-220+ animations **)...27.95
 VISUAL FANTASIES..(600+ mb-2600+ gifs)..........................34.95
 WICKED-X..(Movies using Kodak Photo CD technology-included).....49.95
 VOLCANO..(400 VGA-900 SVGA R-rated gifs)........................32.95
 XXX-XTreme..(Best of overseas scans/automations)................29.95

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4448
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/05/93 10:28p
Subj: BBSCon                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> You would should consult a first ammendment attorney in your area for 
 LN> these answers--I would be speaking out of tongue to 
 LN> say what I feel your State will tolerate.

You could speak about Oklahoma for sure since they just busted Mid-America
Digital Publishing (author of the Magnum CDS) for having adult material on his
BBS I believe it was.....will be interesting since they are saying his rights
were blatantly violated....

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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 4449
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 09/05/93  5:42p
Subj: Re: Seventh Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Sorry It's gone.
Keep looking though there are a lot of copies floating around at good prices.

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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 4450
  To: MARTIN GOMEZ                             Date: 09/04/93  8:35a
Subj: Cd-Rom Trade...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

1.Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego? DEluxe Edition
2.Mantis Experimental Fighter & Civilization(on same cd)
3.Battle Chess

What's your price on mantis and carmen.

Don't have many cd to trade.

Thanks a million!


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From: PAT RILEY                              Number: 4451
  To: KEVIN MCDERMOTT                          Date: 09/05/93 10:01p
Subj: The 7TH Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KM** Would anyone be willing to sell their used copy of T7G for $30?
  **(CompUSA's price is REALLY good, but I just don't have the money :)).
  **           Kevin
I'll sell you a new one for $45 plus postage.

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From: DERIK MINNICH                          Number: 4452
  To: BOB BREED                                Date: 09/05/93 10:03a
Subj: Re: Repair/Upgrade Cd Drive?            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Bob,

The problem you are having could be caused by a dirty lense, alignment 
slightly off or internal hardware.  The light staying on indicates that the 
drive is not properly reading the disc to check the format.  You can contact 
Toshiba about your drive at the following numbers:

   Toshiba Technical Support

   Irvine, CA     714-455-0407
   Cambridge, MA  617-354-6720
   
They can give you some info on helping you with your drive.  As far as 
upgrading it, I couldn't tell ya.  Check with them and see what they say.

Good Luck!

Derik Minnich

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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 4453
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/05/93  6:18p
Subj: CDs For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BJ> I'm clearing out my shareware and misc.CD collection. All CDs listed are
 BJ> in like-new condition and are priced at
 BJ> $5.00 each. Please add $3.00 postage
 BJ> PER ORDER.  Post here or call (713) 488-0065 to reserve or confirm
 BJ> availability. Will consider trades for adult CDs.

Hi Bob-

I'll take the lot. $80 + shipping. Let me know Netmail(if its available for
you) or here the shipping cost via USPS 2'nd day. This a serious offer! 
Sorry- no adult disks you probably dont have already.<G> #815.235.4011 (Just in
case you wanted it for confirmation. ;-). Thanks!

p.s. All are in *fair* condition -no scratches- I take it?



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From: ANDREW SETO                            Number: 4454
  To: KEVIN RICH                               Date: 09/05/93 11:15p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Cd-Rom For Sa               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    The price was $180 and i'll pay shipping.


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From: SCOTT LACKEY                           Number: 4455
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/06/93  9:39a
Subj: sick                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HK> DN>I am wondering.  WHat does "wife-proof" mean in an adult-cd-rom?  I

HK> DN>seen that before in ads.

HK> 

HK>     Being a "wife" myself, I've had to avoid all these luscious-soundi

HK>     CDs since I'd obviously be unable to use them. Geee... I guess tha

HK>     it means:

HK> 

HK>     1)  Females are physically or mentally unable to open the CD case?

HK>     2)  Wives are obviously computer-phobes and wouldn't think to get

HK>         a directory listing to see what's on the disk?

HK>     3)  The lady of the house would only be incensed by such adult

HK>         material, and therefore must be "protected" from it by having

HK>         hubby hide the evidence?

HK>     4)  Nobody but males read the CDROM ads and would ever realize tha

HK>         such trickery occurs...

HK> 

HK>     Maybe one of these days someone will come out with a good CD full 

HK>     adult material for us ladies. And hopefully it'll be husband-proof

HK>     I'd hate for hubby to realize that I'm enjoying such things!  ;-)

HK> 

HK>     Just to keep this on track as a "For Sale" message... Does anyone

HK>     know of an adult CD which is slanted toward females? Title and

HK>     price, dealers?

HK> 

HK> - Heather

HK> ---

HK>  * DeLuxe* 1.12 #2986 * The power of positive lechery

HK> --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta-'e'

HK>  * Origin: Sound Advice - 24 Nodes (816)436-4516 (1:280/333)

HK> 

HK> 

I really hope you're kiddin' cause I think porno is sick for 

UNMARRIED people, and I think any married person who would choke 

their chicken or shove their pudding during one should be shot.

 

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From: CARL SLAWINSKI                         Number: 4456
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/06/93  1:07p
Subj: Re: BBSCon                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ahoy Bob!

On <Sunday September 05 1993>, Bob Jackson was mumbling to Lee Noga:

 BJ> I'd like to see this list. Would you mail me a copy?

Here's the list that she read at ONE BBSCON.


State           City/Location
=============================

Alabama -       All
Arizona -       Phoenix
Florida -       Northern District
Georgia -       Atlanta
Indiana -       Southbend
                Lafayette
                Fort Wayne
                Hammond
                Gary
                Western District
                Indianapolis
Iowa    -       Northern District
Mississippi -   All
North Carolina  All
New York -      Buffalo
Oklahoma -      All
Pennsylvania -  Harrisburg
                Scranton
Tennessee -     Memphis
Texas -         Dallas
Utah -          All
Virginia -      All
Wisconsin -     Western District
                Euclair



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From: BILL ALEXANDER                         Number: 4457
  To: STEVE KRUEGER                            Date: 09/06/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: BB cd rom                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SK> Hey guys...does the Busty Babes CD show any "PINK"???

SK> Inquiring minds want to know...Id be interested if is showed some PINK!


Oh No!! Must be a YOUNG one to ask such a question!!

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From: BILL ALEXANDER                         Number: 4458
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/06/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO> )))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((

BO> NOW IN STOCK  BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
BO> period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
BO> bustiest babes in North America including  Canadian gals
BO> who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
BO> viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.

BO>                      PRICE - $25.00

BO> To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263

BO> )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((


Boris,

If you deliver COD I will call your order line listed above.

I don't use credit cards (couldn't trust the wife or myself with one).

Thanks


Bill

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From: BILL ALEXANDER                         Number: 4459
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 09/06/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: CDRoms for sale                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EB> CDRoms for sale:

EB>  Simtel MSDOS May 1993              $15.00  630+ Megs MSDOS
EB>  Aminet June 1993                   $15.00  Hundreds of megs of Amiga
EB> Postage and Insurance is $5.00 per order, 2nd day priority shipping.
EB> I will ship COD.  Add $5.00 per order for COD charges.

EB> Send checks/money orders to, and/or feel free to contact:

EB> Eric Bravick
EB> USF 3008
EB> 4202 E. Fowler Ave.
EB> Tampa, FL. 33620-3008

EB> (813) 979-1323 (Voice)
EB> (813) 977-5212 (BBS)
EB> Netmail 1:377/53.0

Eric,

Send me these two items for $40 total ($15 apiece + $5 S&H and $5 COD) to:



Bill Alexander

509 Pine Ridge Ln.
Aubrey,TX 76227


Leave a response so that I'll know when the "POST MAN" will be here!!


Later

Bill

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From: BILL ALEXANDER                         Number: 4460
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 09/06/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: Elysian Archive /Amiga              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

IA> Coming Soon!....

IA>             Elysian Archive
IA>  Welcome to the World of Amiga...

IA>  Finally, an Amiga CD-ROM designed for BBS'!..

IA>  * Games
IA>  * Utilities for all Amiga Models
IA>  * Tracker Modules(ST/NT/MED)
IA>  * Demos of commercial software
IA>  * Eurodemos
IA>  * Animations
IA>  * 24 bit images
IA>  * Programming

IA>  CD Specifications
IA>  * ISO9660 format; readable by Amigas and PC's
IA>  * File names are in 8.3 format for compatibility
IA>  * Over 6000 files
IA>  * Over 600 Megabytes

IA>  Produced by TFS
IA>  Published and Distributed by GroupWare

IA> -!- DB 1.53/002199
IA>  ! Origin: GroupWare-Voice:1-800-373-0628 Fax:1-206-473-1634 (1:138/116)

Ismail,

When will it be available, and how much will it be? Hope that it will be
reasonable!!


Let us know!!!



Later

Bill

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4461
  To: RUSS MICHAELSON                          Date: 09/05/93 10:55a
Subj: CDs For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RM>         BOB, I'd like the following CDROMs:                       
                                                                       
  
Sorry, all gone except one. See new post for that, please. 
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4462
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/05/93  1:07a
Subj: CD PACKAGE DEALS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #5: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS   |
         |________________________________________________________|


1. Night Owl 7.0     2. Storm 1     3. Southern Beauties     4. Hot Pix 3
   Night Owl 8.0        Storm 2        All Beauties             Hot Pix 4
   Night Owl 9.0        Storm 3        Amateur Models           Hot Pix 5
   -------------        -------        --------------           ---------
   $69                  $65            $89                      $79


       5. Night Owl 8.0     6. Night Owl 9     7. All Beauties
          Night Owl 9.0        Pier 2             Southern Beauties
          -------------        ------             -----------------
          $49                  $59                $59


8. Up All Night            9. Empire Clipart             10. Pier 2
   Super CD 2                 Clipart Heaven                 SW Vault 2
   So Much Shareware 3        Encyclopedia of Clipart        SW Studio 2
   -------------------        -----------------------        -----------
   $63                        $59                            $65


11. CD Winbox      12. House of Games     13. Busty Babes     14. Storm 2
    Windows 93         Game Arena             Ecstasy             Storm 3
    ----------         ----------             -------             -------
    $44                $35                    $49                 $49


15. Fantazia Fonts         16. Porkware 1       17. Compton's Interactive
    Fontmaster 2               Porkware 2           U.S. Atlas MPC
    Too Many Typefonts         All Beauties         Learning Adventure
    ------------------         ------------         ------------------
    $49                        $89                  $129


PLUS, AN ADDED BONUS . . . . .

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4463
  To: RICHARD BUNTON                           Date: 09/06/93 12:05a
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RB>Ronald, I just ordered this disc from Boris...I asked him specifically
RB>if this was an, "UPDATE", Since he used this word in his ad"...Or if
RB>it was the COMPLETE Encyclopedia...He told me it was the complete
RB>Encyclopedia. (Price 95.00 Dollars).

Richard,

The easy way to tell the upgrade version from the "retail" version is the
big "$149" price tag on the front of the box.  If yours has this tag, it
is the UPGRADE, not the full retail version which is much more costly.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4464
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93 12:05a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICES 1/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Mayo Clinic MPC...............28.00
 5-Star Premium Windows........27.00    Mega Clipart (New!)...........29.00
 7th Guest.....................45.00    Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......56.00
 9000 Sounds (New!)............30.50    Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    Microsoft Golf MPC (New!).....58.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Microsoft Musical Instruments.57.00
 American Business Phonebk 91..17.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........49.00
 American Business Phonebk 92..19.00    Middle East Diary.............35.00
 American Business Phonebk 93..39.00    MIDI Music Shop...............27.00
 Amiga AB20....................15.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50
 Aminet Amiga (New!)...........15.00    Monarch Notes.................59.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......23.00    Monster Media 93..............33.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....25.50    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Arizona Images (New!).........30.00    Mother of All Clipart.........23.50
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Audubon's Birds...............23.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....24.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    National Business Directory...29.00
 Barney Bear Goes to Space.....20.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    National Parks................29.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 4.1.................20.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl 8.0.................25.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....13.00    Night Owl 9.0 (In stock!).....29.00
 Business Master...............20.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    North American Fax Book.......39.00
 California Collection.........17.00    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Canadian Shareware (New!).....22.00    Original Shareware............10.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    Our Solar System..............13.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....29.50
 CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-SIG #12....................26.00
 CD Winbox (New!)..............25.00    PC-SIG #13 (Pre-orders).......33.00
 CD Grab Bag Disc..............19.00    PC Gameroom...................27.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Pentomino.....................32.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phoenix 3.0 ($6 w/ any order).13.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phoenix 4.0 (New!)............28.00
 Clipart Galore................28.00    Phonedisc USA (New!)..........69.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 2........................33.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........25.00    Pier 3 (Pre-orders)...........39.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00    Pinacotheca Multimedia........24.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Composer Quest................34.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....15.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency....97.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......79.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....66.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........109.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....66.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Conan the Cimmerian...........33.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........29.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........27.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Cybergenic Ranger (New!)......27.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Q&A 4.0.......................39.50
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Reader's Library..............28.50
 Desktop Bookshop..............27.50    Reel Clips (New!).............44.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Reference Library.............27.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Return to the Moon (New!).....36.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............33.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...42.00
 Dr. Games (New!)..............23.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
 Dr. Music (New!)..............23.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
 Dr. Shareware (New!)..........23.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
 Dr. Windows (New!)............23.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 DTPro.........................28.50    Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......54.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Electronic Cookbook (New!)....33.00    Shareware Online 1............25.00
 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Shareware Online 2 (New!).....37.00
 Empire Clipart................26.00    Shareware Overload............13.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Shareware Studio 1............20.00

      600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS/OS2 CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shi
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4465
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93 12:05a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICES 2/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Encyclopedia of Sound.........15.00    Shareware Studio 2............25.00
 European Monarchs.............35.00    Shareware Studio 3 (New!).....29.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......29.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.00
 Find-It Webster...............49.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...55.00
 Firearm Reference (New!)......30.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...55.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    Sights & Sounds...............25.00
 Font Master 2.................28.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Game Arena (New!).............13.00    So Much Shareware 2...........27.00
 Game Master...................20.00    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....28.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    Software Vault 1..............22.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....24.00
 Gameware Collection (New!)....24.00    Software Vault Gold (New!)....29.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Sound Effects Library (New!)..19.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Giga Games (New!).............26.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Soundware Collection (New!)...27.00
 Global Explorer...............93.00    SoundWAV......................25.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Grammy Awards.................36.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Space Quest IV................24.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Grolier's STW Ill. Ency. 2.0..35.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Grolier's STW MM Ency. 5.0....45.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Grolier's STW MPC Ency. 1.5...47.50    Street Atlas USA..............86.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...23.00    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....16.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Super Games For Windows.......16.00
 Hamware 1993 (New!)...........28.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Technotools...................13.00
 House of Games................22.50    Tempra Access Photo Software..25.00
 Indiana Jones Fate of Atl'tis.44.50    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....45.00    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Total Baseball................27.00
 Jets & Props..................31.50    Trump Castle..................28.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00    U.S. & World Atlas............25.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 King's Quest V................24.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 King's Quest VI (New!)........47.00    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........23.50    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............34.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    Up All Night Shareware (New!).17.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00    VGA Spectrum 1................14.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 Libris Britannia..............42.00    Visions of Saturn.............23.00
 Lion's Share..................22.00    Vital Signs...................45.00
 Loom..........................19.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...39.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Mac Shareware (New!)..........24.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........35.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Magnum One Shareware..........25.00    World Atlas MPC...............26.50
 Magnum Sight & Sound..........25.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Majestic Places...............38.50    World of Trains...............34.00
 Manhole.......................35.50    World Traveler................15.00
 Mantis........................24.00    World View....................24.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    World Vision 3-Pak............45.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    Wrath of the Demon............29.00

      600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS/OS2 CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4466
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93 12:05a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    Mystique of the Orient (Vid)..59.00
 After Dark Trilogy (Video)....45.00    Nightwatch Interactive (Vid)..49.00
 All Beauties (New!)...........33.00    PC-PIX 1......................30.00
 Amateur Models (New!).........35.00    PC-PIX 2......................30.00
 Animation Fantasies 1.........29.00    PC-PIX 3......................30.00
 Animation Fantasies 2.........29.00    Phone Sex (.WAV recordings)...27.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 Busty Babes vol 1 rel 3.......25.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......29.00    Porkware 2....................37.00
 Debbie Does Dallas (Video)....59.00    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Deep Throat (Video)...........59.00    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Digital Dancing (Video).......48.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........28.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Erotic Encounters 1...........36.00    SeXXcapades The Movie (Video).49.00
 Erotic Encounters 2 (New!)....36.00    Seymore Butts Interactive (V).49.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Smutware......................32.00
 Girls of Vivid 1 (New!).......45.00    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Girls of Vivid 2 (New!).......45.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......30.00
 Hidden Obsessions (Video).....59.00    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................29.00    Storm 2.......................28.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................29.00    Storm 3.......................28.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................29.00    Storm 3-Pak...................69.00
 Hot Pix 5.....................29.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Kama Sutra (Video)............59.00    T&A 2 the Maxx................29.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00    Total Fantasy (New!)..........33.50
 Luscious Ladies (New!)........35.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 My First Time (Video).........39.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

      600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS/OS2 CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 4467
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 09/06/93  6:24a
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well yes, if you buy it there it will be 299.00
but if you look on this echo, you will see tha Star Vector carries it
for 97.00 I have the catalog right in front of me.
If you want to call them to confirm that is the same thing ....go ahead!
It pays to shop around!
(509)457-2892 Star Vector Software


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From: MICHAEL KOKOTT                         Number: 4468
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 09/05/93  6:06p
Subj: Re: Dealers WANTED !!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Kevin,

are you looking for dealers only for the usa or for other countries too?
I'm from germany and if you are interested in selling your cd's here you
are welcom to send me a mail!

Greetings
Michael
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** Beispiel-Signatur f�r ”ffentliche Nachrichten **

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 4469
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/05/93  8:35a
Subj: CD-ROMs wanted ...                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like to buy CD-ROM disks at bargain prices.

New or used.

What do you have to offer?

I will consider trades for some of the things that I'm selling.

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209

Internet: gene.ehrich@pics.com   Fidomail:  Gene Ehrich @ 1:266/22
MCI Mail: 497-8062               Prodigy:   RBCW80A
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From: JOHN HUGHES                            Number: 4470
  To: JIM CLEMENTS                             Date: 09/05/93  9:27p
Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JC> -> No, and there apparently are no plans to do so for the indefinite fut
JC> HP>That's funny, I was at a fair a couple days ago at a Britanica both, and
JC> HP>they had it on CD-ROM there.
JC> 
JC> Henry, my understanding was that they were looking at cdrom, but
JC> only selling it as a optional extra with the complete paper
JC> encyclopedia. Can you tell us any more about it? Cheers!

The CD-ROM that Encyclopedia Britanica sells covers only the two
volume index and includes some search tools for using the index. The
CD-ROM list price is more than $200 but they offer it "free" when you
buy the full encyclopedia.
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From: DAVID HARRISON                         Number: 4471
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/06/93  7:37p
Subj: Re: UPDATED ADULT CD PRICES             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS> I'm in the process of updating my comparison chart now as some of the new
MS> shareware titles like Shareware Online 2, Software Vault Gold, Shareware
MS> Studio 3, and others are trickling in.  I'm just not sure I want to post it
MS> here because of all the whining and griping that went on last time it was
MS> displayed. <g>
MS> 
MS> Later,
MS> .\\ike
Well mike, I run WanderLand BBS 214-258-1037, and I would be more then happy 
to make a cd-rom media comparison section on my bbs (might even produce an
online service for it via MNH Software Designs) as well as be a national
distribution site for your updated comparison lists cause that stuff is
extremely important to us sysoply people.  If you are interested then you
can either call my board or file attach your current list to me with some
details and such to 1:124/1211, 777:717/6, 13:100/20, 75:7214/19,
362:214/101, or 150:151/100 David Harrison.  I am very interested in this.

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4472
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93  9:43p
Subj: need CD Rom\ BB#1 trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

My deal went sour on that CD rom I was going to get for that great BB#1 cd I
have so if any one is wanting to trade for this cd let me know, I'll take any
thing such as a cd player, 386 mother board, simms, tape backup, or cd's.

Pat

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From: JOANNINE GESUALDO                      Number: 4473
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93  9:16a
Subj: Pressing A Master                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!
        I am looking for someone to press a Cd-Rom Disk Master of a New Adult
Cd-rom I am creating. I can supply the files & guarnntee that none of the 
material is copyrighted. Everything is orginal. 
        Let me know via this echo or at Fido 1:290/13 if you know who could
press the master for me & how much it would cost!
                Joannine

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From: JOANNINE GESUALDO                      Number: 4474
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 09/06/93  9:26a
Subj: ADULT CD FOR TRADE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Michellea!
In a message to Heather Krause <09/02/93> Michellea Sorensen wrote:
MS> ->   Maybe one of these days someone will come out with a good CD full
MS> -> of
MS> ->   adult material for us ladies. And hopefully it'll be husband-proof.
MS> ->   I'd hate for hubby to realize that I'm enjoying such things!  ;-)
MS> ->
MS> ->   Just to keep this on track as a "For Sale" message... Does anyone
MS> ->   know of an adult CD which is slanted toward females? Title and
MS> ->   price, dealers?
MS> Hi Heather!

MS>    Well, I know exactly what you mean. Being a woman myself, as well as
MS> a wife, I understand this, but I've got one up on the men. I own my own
MS> CD-ROM company! Hey, and as for discs for us ladies, I still haven't
MS> found one, but Hot Hunks sounds like it might be promising. ;-)

MS>    Gimme a call sometime 306-789-4654, and we'll discuss the politics of
MS> men and their "adult" discs. (Which are NEVER wife-proof).
MS>    .\\ichellea
MS> --- The Mail Box [NR]
MS>  * Origin: SUPERBOARD/CD-ROM WHOLESALERS   (306)789-8682 (1:140/121)
Do you by any chance press Master disk of other people? Reason I am asking 
is that like you & Heather would like to find s Cd-Rom Disk that would offer
some quality Male Nudes for us ladies...I have seen the feew Male Nudes on the
market & I have been SADLY dissappointed. All the images areither Black and
White or they are very grainy... So I have taken to make some new ones for the 

adult female users on my BBS. I am currently looking to find some one who can 
help me produce a master disk and then help press the copies. I haven't heard 
of this Cd- Rom called "Hot Hunks" I will have to look into this one. Please
let me know if you can help me with the master or if you know of someone who
can. Thanks in advance!
                Joannine Gesualdo

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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 4475
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/05/93  9:55a
Subj: Mitsumi 300Ms                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a price on the mitsumi 300 ms drive.  Does any one
know about these?  What kind of prices (new/used)?

Thanks a Million!


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From: CHRIS JOHNSON                          Number: 4476
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/06/93 10:07a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PR> Hello Chris!

 PR> Have 7th Guest for sale or trade, I'm looking for 
 PR> memory simms, or will sell for $40.OBO


        my BO is 35.. YOU ship?

                Chris Johnson


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From: JEFF NEWMAN                            Number: 4477
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/07/93 12:13a
Subj: BB1 Is it worth it?                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> .........................
 MS> numbers and volume numbers?  And also, is Vol 1 Release 1 REALLY worth
 MS> $400????????  Inquiring minds want to know.  8)

 Mike, this is a case of economical supply and demand. Supply is somewhat
 limited, yet portrayed to be VERY LIMITED. Disk for legal, ethical,
 sexual reasons is portrayed as something forbidden, desirable ==>
 high demand. Someone with lots of money panics and bids the disk higher
 than "true" value. Now everyone who owns one thinks that their BB1 is
 now worth some large number of $$$$. Notice the number of people who own
 it and are now trying to sell increasing the SUPPLY. Only a _few_ people with
 lots of money on the international echo will pay something resembling that
 price. However, your internationally unknown seller of BB1 will probably
 get somewhere between $50 - $100. You and Boris and a couple of the
 other "trusted" dealers will earn premiums for your name/integrity.

-Jeff NOPCCCC

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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 4478
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/05/93  2:12p
Subj: Picture Pub. 4.0 on CD                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LATEST Micrografx Picture Publisher 4.0

Easier & cheaper than Photoshop 
     FULL Version - NOT an upgrade
     > All Disks
     > All Manuals
     > CD ROM with program & photos
     > WITH Registration Card!

>>>  ONLY $150 + UPS  <<<< 
    
     412-761-9090

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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 4479
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/05/93  2:13p
Subj: Designer 4.0 on CD                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LATEST Micrografx DESIGNER 4.0

FULL version - NOT an upgrade!

Complete: All disks
          All Documentation
          CD ROM w/ program, fonts, clipart
     Open - no reg. card

>>> ONLY $175  + UPS  !!  <<<<<

412-761-9090  fax: 412-766-FAXX
                                                                               
                                       

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From: NATE LAWSON                            Number: 4480
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 09/03/93 12:52p
Subj: tentacle                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How about $20 for the tentacle game?

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4481
  To: NINO FAGAN                               Date: 09/07/93 12:41a
Subj: Re: TOSHIBA CDROM SPECIAL               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͸
>>   TOSHIBA 3401 CDROM Player %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>> Internal Bare Drive - $389. - Bare = Drive, caddy and manual
>>    ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ;

>>    Boris,
>>
>>     That model drive came with this computer I bought.  What do I
>>    ask for/how do I describe the caddy that came with it if I
>>    wanted to purchase more.  I've seen ads for "Japanese Caddy"
>>    or "Sony Caddy", amongst others.  Is this the same as the one
>>    that comes with the 3401B?  Wouldn't like to order a dozen or
>>    so caddies and they find out they were the wrong thing.  Sorry
>>    for sounding so ingnorant, never saw one before this computer
>>    arrived.

>>    Regards,
>>    Nino

The Toshiba, like so many other cdroms today use the standard sony
caddies.

Our current price is $4.25ec up to 10 and $4.15 for 10 or more.

If this is of interest to you, please feel free to contact us at
216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Xpress Yourself!
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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 4482
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/06/93  1:03p
Subj: BBSCon                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Bob!

Sunday September 05 1993, Bob Jackson writes to Lee Noga:

 BJ> I can understand this, but isn't it a pity we have to be afraid of our
 BJ> own Government?  "Big Brother" *IS* listening!

If you're not engaging in any illegal activity, you have nothing to worry
about.  ;-)


... Clinton Cruise Lines - Taking America for a Ride!

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From: BRYAN BENNETT                          Number: 4483
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93  1:27a
Subj: Need a New CD-ROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am will to work a deal on a new CD-ROM, if interested please leave 
me a message or call...   206-254-4625.
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From: ED JUNE                                Number: 4484
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/06/93  3:05p
Subj: Busty Babes?                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bob Jackson wrote in a message to Chris Kuefler:

BJ> Look at the CD. If it has the words "Graphics Software" on
BJ> it, it's a  "Release 1" and a collector's item.

On the disc itself?  Hmm, I don't have that...

BJ> If those words are missing, check  the DIR listing for a directory
BJ> called "MICHELLA".  If it's there, you  have a "Release 3".

Nope, not there either...
 
BJ> If it's not there, you have a "Release 2".

Cut & dried, eh?
Guess I have a release 2, oh well...



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From: ED JUNE                                Number: 4485
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/06/93  3:08p
Subj: Re: BB #1 ID, how?                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bob Jackson wrote in a message to Ed June:

 EJ> HOW does one *positively* identify a BB#1?
 EJ> The BamBam Logo?
 EJ> I have that, what else?

BJ> Well, look for the words "Graphics Software" on the CD.

On the disc itself?  Mine dosen't have it *8^(

BJ> If they're there, check out the DIR listing. If "XSTORY1" and
BJ> "XSTORY2" are missing, look for the "MICHELLA" directory. If
BJ> it's missing as well, you've got a "Release 1" BB! (Some of
BJ> these instructions are redundant - but you asked for
BJ> "positive" ID :)  ).

I haven't the 'MICHELLA' directory, but I have both 'XSTORY1' & 'XSTORY2'
Thanks for the reply, I might not have a collectors edition, but a nice disc
  just the same...



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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4486
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/06/93  7:11a
Subj: Re: Busty 2.0 Preorders                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <09-02-93 23:52> Doug Carpenter wrote:

DC>>   * *  B U S T Y  B A B E S  * *  RELEASE 2.0  * * IS BACK!! * *
DC>>    Will be re-released in September.  We are taking pre-orders.
DC>>         The Price - $27.95.  We will meet any price on it.

Tad confusing here--The disc is 'Busty Babes Vol II' first edition-New disc
never before on the market--to include a bonus of 250 MB of shareware.

The previous successor was 'Busty Babes Vol I' Release 3.0) who retired after 3
editions.

Can you change your ascii txt to reflect *VOLUMN II* ?

Thanks,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4487
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/06/93  7:15a
Subj: Re: "New" Busty Babes                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-05-93 08:08> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> BTW: Didja read any of my
BJ>> latest  reviews? Wadja think?

Ya mean of BB Vol 1, that I had to ask that you repost because I had not saw it
? If yes, then I must say I enjoyed the comprehensive review ! Your service is
much needed, and I admire your unbias opinions !!!

If your talking about the other adult CD's, refer to paragraph #1 :)

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4488
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/06/93  7:34a
Subj: Re: BBSCon                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-05-93 09:27> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> Do I take it then that your new offerings will be more "R" rated?

The BB Vol II and "Texas Glamour" are both 'Soft n' Seductive' with no
penetration shots--More of an "X" then "R" if you want to get specific.
These 'Softer' disc's were on schedule first and the 3rd one in line is gonna
be a "XXX" disc (licensed collection). It's just the way the projects were
budgeted etc--

The BBV2 disc is more like 'Model Mania' with classifications like:

  a) Tropical, Swimsuit, No panties, no top, wet-t-shirt, teasers,
     full nudity, woman playing with woman, lingerie, from the waist up,
     bunshots, boxshots, girl with boy, etc... 1000 original slides.

  b) Bonus - 250MB of 1993 shareware included on disc.

  c) BBS ready (files.bbs) format--No copyright worries for the sysop

BJ>>  CS>> one of the cities on your list.

      It's faster to type the forbidden list:

         a) All alabama, Phoenix AZ, North Florida, Atlanta GA
            Various districts in IN, All Mississippi, All NC
            Buffalo NY, All OK, Various cities in PA, Memphis TN
            Dallas TX, All UT, All VA, Various districts in WI

BJ>> I can understand this, but isn't it a pity we have to be afraid of
BJ>> our own Government?  "Big Brother" *IS* listening!

This is part of the reason to why adult CD's are banned for discussion in the
CD-ROM echo--A small attempt at protecting distribs.

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: JIM CLEMENTS                           Number: 4489
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 09/05/93 11:42a
Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Henry, my understanding was that they were looking at cdrom, but
-> only selling it as a optional extra with the complete paper
-> encyclopedia. Can you tell us any more about it? Cheers!
HP>Yeah, that's the line we got fed at the fair...
HP>I know I've seen it in an ad somewhere for about $100 I think it was..
HP>I can't remember though...

Well this can get confusing, Henry. There is a Brittanica Family
disc (largely games), and there is also the Compton's Encyclopedia 
(which is also called -- erroneously -- the Brittanica encyclopedia 
by many people because Compton's was/is owned by the Brittanica.

Compton's NewMedia, which produced the Compton's Encyclopedia
discs, was recently sold -- to Time/Warner I believe.

The Compton's Encyclopedia is NOT the Brittanica, not by a long-
shot. I recommend it for people with fairly young children in the
family. It is very good, but aimed at public school level.

You may well have seen it for $100, in fact that is close to the
Compton's upgrade offer.

I'd be interested in hearing if you come across a true Brittanica
for anything less than $1,0000 (including books). Cheers!
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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 4490
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93  7:08p
Subj: Night Owl Graphics Ver. 1               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*@SUBJECT:Night Owl Graphics Ver. 1 !!!                               N
             TCM Computing and Night Owl Publisher Inc., ANNOUNCE:

                         NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS v1 !!!

                         In Stock and Shipping !!!

The same team that brought you Night Owl 9 has now joined forces to bring
you the very BEST in Graphics!!  This new CD contains over 640 Meg. of
high-resolution GIFs and JPGs, as well as TIF, TGA, PCX, Animations,
Clipart, Fractals, Windows wallpaper and icons, plus graphics programs and
utilities:  over 4,500 of the best graphics files from '92 & '93.

                  Availability: NOW!
                  Special Introductory Price:  $39 !!
                  Rated: PG

You can check out this outstanding new Night Owl product yourself by calling
TCM and either (J)oining conference #81 (we have the CD online) or by
downloading NIGHT_G1.ZIP.

                     ** SPECIAL COMBO PRICING **

           Night Owl Shareware v8 & v9................ $55
           Night Owl Graphics and Shareware v9........ $59
           Night Owl Graphics and Shareware v8 & v9... $75  !!! BEST VALUE !!!

Night Owl Graphics v1 may be ordered from TCM in several ways:

  - send check/money order with appropriate Amt. + $3s/h to the address below,
  - call us voice (leave a message if we aren't available)
  - Send us a Fax for Credit Card and COD Orders
  - Call the BBS and leave a message to the Sysop for COD Orders
  - Call the BBS and use the ORDER Door for Credit Card Orders

 [ TCM is the Official Night Owl Support BBS - call for the latest news ]

 [ TCM is an Official Night Owl Distributor - Dealers call for Pricing ]

TCM Computing                                        (703) 439-8032
Rt. 2 Box 130                                        (703) 439-8237 Fax
Midland, Va. 22728                                   (703) 439-3060 BBS
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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 4491
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93  7:09p
Subj: Pre-Release Announcement:               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*@SUBJECT:Pre-Release Announcement:  Night Owl Windows v1 !!          N
                  Announcing ANOTHER New Night Owl Product:

                          NIGHT OWL WINDOWS v1 !!!

                     600+ Meg. of files for Windows
                           95%+ 1993 files!
                     Availability:  mid-September '93
                   Windows Retrieval Engine & BBS Ready
                             Price: $49

If you have been looking for a Windows CD with the very best in Programs,
Applications, WAVs, BMPs, AVIs, Utilities, etc., look no further!!  You can
now get all this with the well-known Night Owl quality!!!  PLUS!, the
famous Night Owl retrieval engine has been updated for Windows access!!

TCM is now accepting ADVANCE orders for this new Night Owl product (NO ONE
will have the disk before TCM).  For those of you who would like to check
out the contents of this new CD, we hope to have the DIRs available to d/l
from TCM BBS around Sept. 15th (call the BBS and check for NIGHT_W1.ZIP).
We will also be sending out another TCM Newsletter with the info on this
new disk.  If you aren't on our mailing list leave a message with your name
and address.  Members of our newsletter "family" receive substantial
discounts on all Night Owl products.

TCM has been affiliated with Night Owl for more than 3 years.  We have been
active participants in the development of the disks (e.g. NOPV9 & the new
Night Owl Graphics CD).  Why go with other dealers that sell a bazillion
other disks and are clueless about what is actually on Night Owl?  TCM
specializes in Night Owl; that is why TCM BBS is the Official Night Owl
Support Board.  If the only reason for going somewhere else is price, then
take note:  We we MEET/BEAT any valid advertised price for Night Owl products.
Get your best price and then give us a call.


       ____________________Combo Specials_____________________

       N.O. Windows & Graphics............................$ 69
       N.O. Windows & NOPV9...............................$ 69
       N.O. Windows, Graphics, & NOPV9....................$ 89
       N.O. Windows, Graphics, NOPV9, & NOPV8.............$ 99  !!!SPECIAL!!!

PELASE NOTE: all combos that include the Windows CD will be shipped upon
the availability of the Windows disk (mid-September).  Those of you on
our mailing list will receive a newsletter in appro. 2 weeks with special
discount pricing.  If you want to be put on our list, DO IT NOW!

Night Owl CDs may be ordered from TCM in several ways:

  - send check/money order with appropriate payment (+$3s/h),
    to the address below,
  - call us voice (leave a message if we aren't available)
  - Send us a Fax for Credit Card and COD Orders
  - Call the BBS and leave a message to the Sysop for COD Orders
  - Call the BBS and use the ORDER Door for Credit Card Orders

 [ TCM is the Official Night Owl Support BBS - call for the latest news ]

 [ TCM is an Official Night Owl Distributor - Dealers call for Pricing ]

TCM Computing                                        (703) 439-8032
Rt. 2 Box 130                                        (703) 439-8237 Fax
Midland, Va. 22728                                   (703) 439-3060 BBS
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From: CARL SCHULTZ                           Number: 4492
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/05/93  5:33p
Subj: 7th guest only $39!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi would you be wiling to sell me a special price on The 7th guest and Kings
Quest 6 Cd if I bought them at th same time both from you? leave email or call
me at 204-261-0872. -Carl-


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From: CARL SCHULTZ                           Number: 4493
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/05/93  5:38p
Subj: 7th guest only $39!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

would you be wiling to sell me or anyone out there KQ6 and T7G for a cheaper
price if bought toghether I can get KQ6 for 47$ and T7G for 39$ if bought
seperatly so maybe around 80$, just leave me a message if so. Thanks in advance
_Carl_


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From: RON RICHMOND                           Number: 4494
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/05/93 11:48p
Subj: Canadian sales                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>seizure thing is somewhat overblown.  If the product is packaged and
MS>labeled properly, Canadians have very little to worry about concerning
MS>their shipments from the U.S.

O.K. Thanks for your information. Will keep it in mind for the future.
===
 * SLMR 2.0 #376 * Oxymoron #1 - Postal service


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From: ED ROGOFF                              Number: 4495
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/05/93 10:09a
Subj: CDS FOR SALE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I'm clearing out my shareware and misc. CD collection.
-> Post here or call (713) 488-0065 to  reserve or confirm
-> availability. Will consider trades for adult CDs.

I will take your-
Encyclopedia of ClipArt
World of Flight
World of Trains
and, Ham Radio
CD-ROMS if you still have them.  Please reply here or call my BBS direct
at (805)582-1534  1:102/1008

Thanks,
      -=Ed=-

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From: CARL SLAWINSKI                         Number: 4496
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/07/93  1:50p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ahoy Mike!

On <Monday September 06 1993>, Mike Shannon was mumbling to All:

 MS>  Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00

Have any details on this disk?

I'm looking for something to put on the BBS that won't get me in trouble for
obscenity/indecency. Is this really 93 and are the images copyright
infringement free?


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From: CARL SLAWINSKI                         Number: 4497
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/07/93  1:52p
Subj: Adult CDs for Trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ahoy All!

Have the following Adult titles that I would like to trade for something more
tame.

Busty Babes #1 Release 3.0
Super Smutware

Both are BBS ready and in new condition. I only stuck them in the drive once
to look at their content.

Prefer a Swimsuit/Nature Nudity type CD. Not XXX.

Open for Trades or Deals.


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4498
  To: DOUG SNELL                               Date: 09/02/93  7:56p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >What make BB #1 so valuable? 
 
It has become somewhat of a collector's item since it's content resulted 
in a court case, and subsequent releases were "cleaned up" of the 
material in question.  Lee Noga can give you more details if she sees 
fit. <smile> 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4499
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 09/02/93  7:58p
Subj: Erotic Encounters 2                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >why is eroctic encounters supposed to be banned? 
 
I am not sure yet.  I haven't had a chance to give it much of a look.  I 
looked in a few different directories and found nothing unusual so far. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4500
  To: DAVID HEYDRICK                           Date: 09/02/93  8:00p
Subj: Re: Special Interest                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >JL> I have a couple different titles you may be interested in.  Give me a 
  >JL> call and we can discuss the details.  Both titles sell for $39 each. 
 
  >          Now if I can just remember what you are replying to, 
  >          its been some time since I have posted in this Echo. 
 
I don't remember exactly what the discussion was, but I remember the 
titles referred to were Hot Hunks and GBL.  Were you asking about 
something like that? 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4501
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/02/93  9:10p
Subj: Adult Cd For Wives?                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HK>   1)  Females are physically or mentally unable to open the CD case? 
  >   2)  Wives are obviously computer-phobes and wouldn't think to get 
  >       a directory listing to see what's on the disk? 
  >   3)  The lady of the house would only be incensed by such adult 
  >       material, and therefore must be "protected" from it by having 
  >       hubby hide the evidence? 
  >   4)  Nobody but males read the CDROM ads and would ever realize that 
  >       such trickery occurs... 
 
I guess that trick will work on some, but certainly not all wives.  My 
wife has her own little tricks as well.  Sometimes her trick is just 
pretending not to catch on to mine. <G> 
 
HK>   Just to keep this on track as a "For Sale" message... Does anyone 
  >   know of an adult CD which is slanted toward females? Title and 
  >   price, dealers? 
 
Hot Hunks is one such title.  Fair warning, though.  It is slanted for 
gays as well as women.  I sell Hot Hunks for $39. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4502
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 09/07/93  7:16a
Subj: CDs For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

All *WERE* in like-new cond. but they were all sold by Sat. morn. Thanks  for
the offer, 'tho. (See latest post about Ham Radio CD). 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4503
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/07/93  7:16a
Subj: CDs For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

All sold out by Sat. morn. Thanks anyway. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4504
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 09/07/93  7:18a
Subj: BBSCon                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Funny, that's what the Nazis and the Communists used to say. End of  thread. 
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From: TYRONE THOMASON                        Number: 4505
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 09/06/93  1:42p
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


DH>UPS delivered about 75 BB version 1 disks here, and I of course told them my
DH>name was Tyrone <G>.

75 BB v1's?!?  I ordered 80! ;{).

DH>You'd think that the readers here would be smart enough to look
DH>around a little before approaching one of the "dealers"...most of the
DH>here beat a dead horse telling buyers they will meet/beat competitor
DH>prices.

You are right.  Readers (including me) should look around a little
before a deciding who to buy from.  Mike and Boris seem to hold a
respectable share of the business.  That's what I went on (and a $10
special on selected software I was interested in) and, I haven't been
disappointed yet.  I just paid over $50 for a CD-ROM disc I could have
got mail order for $28.  Could have kicked myself.


DH>Was surprised to see Mike Shanahan agree to credit the guy
DH>even though the original disks were $10 more.

Mike seems to be a pretty good guy.  He gave me what I feel to be a
valid explanation of why I paid more for a disc that he was selling
for less the next week.  Then turned around agreed to my terms.  I
have to respect that.  I can't prove whether or not he's jerking me
around so, I chose to assume he is being honest.  That's all I ask for
in anyone I do business with.....and fair of course.

        Ty.


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From: TYRONE THOMASON                        Number: 4506
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/06/93  1:55p
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


MS>Tyrone,

MS>I DID reply to you in a fairly lengthy message.  If you did not receive it,
MS>give me a call @ 509-457-2892.

MS>Later,
MS>.\\ike

My apologies if my reference to you seemed unfavorable.  The statement
was made in the interest of good (poor) humor.  I recieved your message
later that evening if I remember correctly.

     Ty.


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From: TYRONE THOMASON                        Number: 4507
  To: THE SISTER                               Date: 09/07/93 10:51a
Subj: Adult Cd-rom Disk 4Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TS>I have a copy of Storm III that is about 6 months old. It contains over
TS>600+ megs of ADult files. This Disk was Banned in Japan.
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Joannine Gesualdo,

I don't know if you know much about Japan but anything with pubic
exposure is banned.


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From: PAUL LAWRENCE                          Number: 4508
  To: PAUL LAWRENCE                            Date: 09/07/93  5:11p
Subj: HEY                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HEY THERE WHATS HAPPENING
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From: PAUL LAWRENCE                          Number: 4509
  To: MARK MANTEI                              Date: 09/07/93  8:11p
Subj: HELLO                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HEY MARK,
 I AM JUST TESTING OUT MY FIDONET AND SEEING WHAT HAPPENS THANX 
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 4510
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93 10:32p
Subj: Technical Shareware on CD               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS is shipping the last of its July 1993 Technical collections on
CD-ROM before the OCtober 1 editions ship. Current editions have the
following:
Type             Files
Spreadsheet        325
Assembler          391
Access             175
C/C++              987
AutoCAD            820
Xbase             2983
Netware            801
ObjectVision        91
Paradox            490
Science            113
Small Business     238
TrueType           752
TurboPascal 5+     680
Visual Basic       425
VBDOS/QB/PDS       224
Windows Utilities  705
We also have special collectiosn for consumers (games, homepc, etc.).
All collections come with a free 122,000 record database of all PC
products and the firms which make them. Prices range from $29.50 to
$59.50 for individual collections or everything on one CD for $195. For
brochure, call voice:(301)924-3594 Fax:(301)963-2708
EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org, or write EMS Professional Shareware,
4505 Buckhurst Ct., Olney MD 20832-1830.


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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 4511
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 09/06/93 11:31a
Subj: Pro-Phone 93 Crosspoÿÿÿÿÿ               Refer: NONE
Read: 09/20/93  6:51a                       Private: No 

-> For $100.00 Prophone is a hell of a buy... If it was 100% accurate,
-> none of us could afford it!


Tim, this discussion so far has been to the accuracy and timeliess of 
their data.

My complaint with Prophone is that their search engine sucks!!! It will 
find towns by zip code that it will not find by name. Even when I make 
sure that the name is spelled correctly.

Frequently I have to go back and research a town because I get no 
listings found. Almost every time I get listings by the zip codes of 
the town.

One nice thing we've found is that you can search by multiple SIC codes 
by listing them in order with a piping symbol between (|).

When I talked to the publisher on the phone they told me there was no 
way to do a multiple SIC search. 

Anyway with the fact that their data is out of date and incomplete and 
the fact that their search engine is defective I question the 
usefullness of the program.

James

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 4512
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/02/93  9:39p
Subj: Busty Babes v1.0r                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

THANKS DOUG- YOU CAN PUT ME DOWN FOR ONE.
IF YOU CAN FAX ME A PRICE LIST ON ALL YOUR CDROMS, I WOULD APPRECIATE  IT 
BECAUSE I OWN A COMPUTER STORE IN TUCSON ARIZONA AND HAVE MANY CUSTOMERS 
ASKING FOR CD'S.   THANKS.
FAX # 1-602-292-0497

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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4513
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 09/06/93  1:38p
Subj: PC-SIG                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Regarding PC-SIG:
BF>I don't like the way they organise their collections, but they are HIGHLY
BF>reputable.


Could you please elaborate on what you dislike about their organization?
I'm very curious about it. THANKS A LOT FOR THE HELP!!!!

                               -Jason

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4514
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93 11:26p
Subj: great cdrom prices                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     ShareWare (** BBS Ready)       Clip Art Heaven...............25.95
AB20 Amiga CD-Rom.............14.50 Coates Art Review.............44.95
America's Premier 1993 Sharw..22.95 College Handbook (1992).......18.95
Aminet Amiga............**....14.50 Color Magic Clip Art..........26.95
Big Sky.................**....25.95 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00
C Users Group Library.........29.50 Complete Bookshop.............13.00
California Collection...**....16.95 Composer Quest................36.95
CD Powerbox.............**....19.95 Compton's Interactive Encylop.96.95
Fred Fish On-Line(Amiga)**....49.95 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....59.95
Garbo MSDOS/MAC Shareware.....14.50 Conan.........................32.95
Giga Games..............**....25.95 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50
Gigabyte Gold...........**....22.50 Cookbook Heaven...............19.95
Ham Radio (Shareware).........13.00 Corel 3.0 Floppy + CD........134.95
Libris Britannica.......**....41.95 Corel 4.0 CD Upgrade.........239.95
Lion Share..............**....21.95 Crossword Cracker.............23.95
Magnum Sight & Sound....**....28.95 DAC Accounting Bonus Pk v4.4.154.95
Monster Disc (2 Cds-92).**....37.95 DAC Accounting for DOS v4.4...99.95
Monster Media '93.......**....31.95 DAC Instant Accountng-DOS/WIN.39.95
NightOwl 5.0............**....15.95 DAC Instant Rolodex for WIN3..39.95
Nightowl 6.0............**....22.95 DAC Payroll for DOS v4.4......99.95
Nightowl 7.0............**....22.95 DAC Rolodex Live v2.0.........39.95
Nightowl 8.0............**....24.95 Danger Hot Stuff 1............18.95
Nightowl 9.0............**....28.50 Danger Hot Stuff 2............24.95
Nightowl Bus. Applications....22.95 Day of the Tentacle...........47.95
Original Shareware 1992.**....16.95 DeathStar Arcade Battles......13.00
OS/2 Archives (Hobbes)........14.50 Deep Voyage...................34.95
PC Sig H & B Collection.......29.95 Desert Storm..................34.95
PC Sig #10..............**....22.95 Desktop Bookshop..............27.50
PC Sig #11..............**....24.95 Dictionaries & Languages......13.00
PC Sig #12..............**....24.95 Dictionary of Living World....34.95
PC Sig #9...............**....17.95 Dinosaur Adventure MPC........31.95
Phoenix v3.0............**....12.95 Dinosaurs MPC.................54.95
Pier Shareware #1.......**....26.95 Doctors Book of Home Remedies.36.95
Powerpak Gold...........**....12.95 Dune..........................46.95
SCI-FI (Pics,Sound).....**....24.95 Education Master or Business..19.95
SDN 1...................**....19.95 Electronic Cookbook...........29.95
Shrw Extravaganza(4 cds)**....42.95 Elec. Home Libr.(250 books)...34.95
Shareware 1993..........**....19.95 Encyclopedia of Clip Art......24.95
Shareware Explorer............58.95 Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.00
ShareWare Overload............13.00 Essential Home/Bus Collection.18.95
Shareware Studio #1.....**....20.95 European Monarchs.............48.95
Shareware Studio #2.....**....23.95 Executive Factomatic..........36.95
Shareware Tiger.........**....24.95 Family Doctor.................24.95
Simtel 20 (Gov't Sharw).**....14.50 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......27.95
So Much Shareware #1....**....19.95 Fontmaster #1-18.95....or #2..27.95
So Much Shareware #2....**....24.95 Fonts #1......................27.95
So Much Shareware #3....**....26.95 Full Bloom....................36.95
Software Vault #1.......**....22.95 Future Wars...................48.95
Software Vault #2.......**....23.95 Game Arena....................13.00
Sound Sensations..............13.00 GameMaster (Over 500 Games)...19.45
Source Code (Unix/Dos)........20.00 Games 1993................**..24.50
Technotools (Programmers).....13.00 Gifs Galore...................14.50
Top 2000 Shareware............22.95 Global Explorer (Delorme).....91.95
Up All Night............**....16.95 Golden Immortal...............24.95
Winbox (CD).............**....24.95 Gov't Giveaways-Entreprenuers.47.95
Window Master.................19.45 Great Cities of World 1 or 2..24.95
Windoware.....................13.00 Great Wonders of the World....42.95
Windows 1993............**....24.95 Greatest Books Collection.....44.95
Windows - CICA..........**....14.50 Grolier Ill. Encyl. v2........34.95
X11R5/GNU CDRom...............24.95 Grolier Ill. Encyl. v5 MM.....43.95
          Miscellaneous             Grolier Ill. Encyl. v1.5 MPC..46.95
1001 Utilities................12.95 Guiness Disc of Records (92)..22.95
20th Century Video Almanac....32.95 Guy Spy.......................43.95
7th Guest.....................47.95 Hacker Chronicles.............25.95
Adventures of Willy Beamish...24.95 HamWare 1993..................27.95
Aesops Fables.................29.95 Holy Bible & Other Christian..22.95
Aircraft Encyclopedia.........35.95 Home Library..................29.95
Amanda Stories................44.95 Hospitality Index.............39.95
Amer.Bus.Fone Book #1..$17 #2.27.95 House of Games................21.95
American Vista Atlas..........32.95 Inter. Business/Economc Atlas.24.45
Anecdotes.....................26.95 Island Designs................36.95
Animals SD Zoo DOS-21.95..MPC-25.95 Jazz, Multimedia History......39.95
Arthur's Teacher Trouble......27.95 Jets & Props..................31.95
Audobon Mammals or Birds......23.95 Jokes & Pranks................13.00
Barney Bear Goes to School....19.95 Jones in the Fast Lane........19.00
Barney Bear Goes to Space.....21.95 Just Grandma & Me.............41.95
Barron's Book Notes...........39.95 Kathy Smith-Fat Burning Systm.54.95
BattleChess Enhanced..........31.95 Key Clipmaster Pro............32.95
BattleChess MPC...............29.95 Key Fonts Pro.................32.95
Beauty & the Beast (Win3).....28.95 Key Home Designer.............32.95
Bible Library (9 Bibles+).....28.50 Kids Zoo-Baby Animal Adv......36.95
Bibles & Religion.............13.00 Kodak Photo CD Access.........21.95
Brittanica Family Choice......24.95 King James Bible..............27.95
Brittanica Select.............24.95 Kings Quest V.................19.95
Business Assistant............13.00 Kings Quest VI................46.95
Business Phone Dir w/Zip+.....34.95 Languages of the World........47.95
Cameron's Fine Art Poster.....39.95 Learning Adventure............13.00
Carmen San Diego World Delux..27.95 Legend of Kyrandia............54.95
CD Cad v3.7 with manual.......31.95 Library of the Future 1.......47.95
CD Game Pack 1................18.95 ***********************************
Cd Game Pack 2................22.95 * PCJ - 9/05/93 - A 1 Stop Dealer *
ChessMaster 3000 MPC..........24.95 ***********************************
Christmas Carol...............28.95  Orders Only-800-547-7817 (9-9 EST)
Cinnemania....................57.95     These Lines Operate 24 Hours
Classic Collection (4 Pak)....51.95    Orders/Inquiry - 615-339-0235
Clip Art Galore..........**...27.50    Fax            - 615-479-1047
Clip Art Goliath..............13.00    BBS 615-478-2890/615-479-1047

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 4515
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/05/93 11:06p
Subj: CDs For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>I'm clearing out my shareware and misc. CD collection.  All CDs listed are
BJ>in like-new condition and are priced at $5.00 each. Please add $3.00 postage
BJ>PER ORDER.  Post here or call (713) 488-0065 to reserve or confirm
BJ>availability. Will consider trades for adult CDs.

BJ>CD Winbox               CD Powerbox            Encyclopedia of ClipArt
BJ>Colossal Cookbook       Cookbook Heaven        World of Flight
BJ>World of Trains         Bibles & Religion      Phoenix 3.0
BJ>SDN-1 Plus              Ham Radio              Dictionaries & Languages
BJ>Mega Win/OS2            Mega A/V               Mega ROM 1
BJ>Mega ROM 2

BJ>... Tagline fever is the primary symptom of the Blue Wave epidemic!!
BJ>--- Blue Wave/RA v2.10
BJ> * Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 |  (1:106/30.0)

Bob,
        I'll take both CD Winbox and CD Powerbox for $10 plus shipping!
        Let me know if you still have both! Tell me if you still have
        Mega A/V or Dictionaries and Languages also.

                                           VERY INTERESTED!
                          Thanks          Sam Figueroa
                                          Sam's Software
                                          (615) 728-7383
Call me if you need to!


 * SLMR 2.1a * Sam's Software (615) 728-7383

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4516
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/07/93 12:15p
Subj: great cdrom prices continued]           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

      Miscellaneous (cont.)              Miscellaneous (cont.)
 
Lifestyles-R & F Cookbook.....37.95 Sporting News-Pro Football....36.95
Loom..........................18.95 Sports Best on CDRom..........27.95
Lord of the Rings.............54.95 Star Child....................39.95
Lovely Ladies.................27.95 Stellar 7.....................19.95
MacMillan Dict for Children...29.95 Storybook Weaver..............39.95
Magazine Rack.................22.95 StoryTime 1 or 2..............24.95
Manhole.......................35.50 Street Atlas USA (Windows)....85.95
Mantis........................23.95 Swimwear 1993.............**..28.95
Mario is Missing/World Atlas..26.95 Swimwear & More (SVGA)........28.95
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...24.95 Talking Jungle or Classc.Tale.35.95
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typng v2.49.95 Talking Schoolhouse...........35.95
Mayo Clinic...................26.95 Tempra/Kodak Photo CD Softw...27.50
Mega Clip Art.................28.50 The Complete Twain............31.95
Mega Movie Guide..............42.95 The Grammy Awards.............36.95
Microsoft Bookshelf...........54.95 The Holy Bible................31.95
Microsoft Golf................54.95 The Pill Book.................36.95
Microsoft Music Instruments...56.95 Time Almanac 1990.............16.95
Microsoft Works...............39.95 Time Almanac 1991.............21.95
Midi Music Shop...............26.95 TimeTable of Art/Entertainmnt.27.95
Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50 TimeTable of Business/Politic.27.95
Modblaster....................24.95 TimeTable of History/Science..21.95
Monarch Notes.................53.95 Too Many TypeFonts (Laser)....13.00
Monkey Island (Secrets of)....24.50 ToolWorks Reference Library...19.95
Mother Earth..................27.95 Total Baseball Encyclopedia...24.95
Mother of All Clipart (23000).22.95 Travel in Europe..............28.95
MPC Wizard....................13.95 True Crime Stories............36.95
My Advanced Label Designer....42.95 Trump Castle-5 casino games...27.95
My Backup.....................19.95 Ultima I - VI.................35.95
My Label Designer Bundle......42.95 Ultima Underworld 1 & 2.......59.95
Multimedia, All American......32.95 USA Today.....................36.95
Multimedia Tutor..............22.95 USA Wars-Civil War............36.95
National MM Parks Guide.......24.95 USA Wars-Korea................44.95
Nat. Geographic MPC Mammals...24.95 USA Wars-Vietnam..............44.95
Nautilus Subscription Kit.....28.95 USA Wars-World War II.........44.95
North American Fax Book.......38.95 U.S. Atlas MPC................26.95
North American Indians........46.95 U.S. Atlas / Automap..........27.95
Officers Bookcase.............37.95 U.S. Civics...................44.95
Oregon Trail Dlx Vga..........35.95 U.S. History..................27.95
Oregon Trail..................39.95 U.S. Presidents...............35.95
Our House (Family Circus).....42.95 U.S./World Atlas-19.95.....MM-23.95
Our Solar System(Photos,Data).13.00 U.S./World Atlas MPC..........24.95
PC Gameroom...................26.95 VGA Spectrum #1...............14.95
PC Globe 5.0..................49.95 VGA Spectrum #2...............21.95
PC Sig Games..................23.95 Visions of Saturn.............22.95
Pentaminoes...................31.95 Wild Places or World View.....23.95
Peter Rabbit..................24.95 Wing Commander 2 Deluxe.......57.50
Peter & the Wolf (Win3).......24.95 Wing Commander 2/UUnderWrld...59.95
Pharmicist Guide to Drugs.....26.95 Wing Commander/Secret Missn...34.50
PhoneDisc USA.................64.95 Wing Commander/Ultima 6.......19.95
Photos to Remember............34.95 Wizard........................19.95
Pinacotheca MPC...............23.95 Wiz Pack......................11.95
Pixel Garden..................44.95 Women of Venus (Swimsuits)....27.95
Plant Doctor..................36.95 Word Munchers.................28.95
Play w/Lang-Englh/Frenc/Span..49.95 World Atlas MPC...............24.95
Precision Mapping.............77.95 World Atlas Vista.............32.95
Presidents, A.S. w/George.....79.95 World Fact Book (CIA).........19.95
Prophone Business 1993........27.95 World of Flight or Trains.....33.95
Prophone (3 CD Set)...........49.95 World Tour (CIA)..............23.95
Prophone (7 CD set)..........109.95 World Traveler................13.00
Publique or Fresh Arte........35.95 Wrath of the Demon............28.50
Publish It v2.0 (w/Manual)....24.95
Publishers Dream Disc.........37.95   Drives/Sound/Software/Speakers
Publishers Paradise...........32.95
Putt Putt Joins Parade........49.95 CD Caddies (Sony Compatible)..4.95
P.C. Medic (Fix your PC)......29.50 Chinon 435 Int SCSI + CDs...349.95
QRZ Ham Radio.................14.95 Gravis Ultrasound 16bit.....139.95
Readers Library (2000 works)..26.95 Koss Headphones..............14.95
Reference Library.............27.45 Koss Hard Drivers Speakers...32.95
Return to the Moon............34.95 Koss Amplfd Spkrs w/Eqlizer..54.95
Roger Ebert Movie Companion...41.95 Labtec Amplified Mini Spkrs..29.95
Sales Manager's Factomatic....36.95 Labtec Amplifd Stereo Spkrs..44.95
Schumachers Prague Cookbook...44.95 Mitsumi 350ms w/Int. Kit....195.00
Sci-Fi (Pics/Sound/Files).**..27.95 Pioneer 600A (Bare).........829.00
Seals of US Gov't.............44.95 Pioneer 600A with Kit.......929.00
Secret Island Dr. Quandry.....39.95 Pioneer 604X (Bare)........1229.00
Secret Weapons of LuftWaffe...24.50 Pioneer 604X with Kit......1329.00
Secrets-Exec Success Stories..36.95 Sysdos-Parallel port drive..299.95
Seventh Bun...................45.95 Texel DM3024 Int SCSI.......389.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...22.95 Toshiba 3401 Int SCSI.......455.00
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...54.95 Windows 3.1 (3-1/2" Floppy)..39.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...54.95 Windows 3.1 (5-1/4" Floppy)..37.95
Sherlock or Shakespeare.......16.95 Znix Cordless Mouse/Win 3.1..59.95
Sights & Sounds...............24.95 Znix Serial Super Mouse......24.95
Snap Dragon...................39.95 ***********************************
Snapdragon....................39.95 * PCJ - 9/05/93 - A 1 Stop Dealer *
So Much Screenware (Gifs).**..27.95 * We meet all legit / noncloseout *
Softw Jukebox-All Amer Sports.42.95 * prices in this echo. No hidden  *
Soundblaster MOD Files........24.95 * charges for credit cards. Call  *
Sound Effects Library.........19.00 *  our BBS for our adult title    *
Sound Works (Software)........18.95 *  list and download adult.zip.   *
Soundware Collection..........26.95 ***********************************
SoundWav......................24.95 Orders Only-800-547-7817 (9-9 EST)
Space Adventure...............31.95   These Lines Operate 24 Hours
Space Quest IV................23.95   Orders/Inquiry - 615-339-0235
SpaceQuest4/Kings Quest.......34.95   Fax            - 615-479-1047
Spirit of Excalibur...........38.45   BBS (14400)    - 615-479-1047

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4517
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 09/06/93  9:03p
Subj: Anniversary Sale!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MA>          through the first week of August, 1993! (less than a month
MA>          old!) By far one of the most popular disks we have had in
MA>          stock this year! We have sold over 1000 of these since they
MA>          have been released 10 days ago!

Only 1000?  C'mon Mark, try to keep up with the rest of us.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4518
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/06/93  9:03p
Subj: U.S. Mail                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>>>    week in both the two instances (over 6 years) where they lost
BO>>>    something.  Maybe I'm missing something, but when given a
BO>>>    choice between the two, I always stick with UPS.

BO>Good for you Mike, but personally, this has no place here and how we
BO>got on this subject ???

We got on this subject because you made a generally inaccurate statement
that shipping through the U.S. Postal Service was "cheaper" than U.P.S.,
all things being equal.  I simply stated my opinion that not only was
U.P.S. less expensive for us, but more convenient due to the automatic,
paperless insurance, daily pickup, traceable deliveries, etc.  If you
prefer Uncle Sam, I have no problem with that, but since this IS an echo
dealing with the mailorder buying and selling of CD-ROM related products,
I feel that discussions about preferred shipping methods and companies is
very relevant.  If I'm wrong here, Tim can correct me, but with the vast
number of people who read this echo primarily for the purposes of ordering
CD's and hardware, I would think that any pro/con discussion over the
shipping services we all depend on to receive said merchandise would be
not only relevant, but possibly of some value to the readers.

Later,

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4519
  To: JOHN PIMENTEL                            Date: 09/06/93  9:03p
Subj: CD CADDIES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ> JP> Where (other than Mike Shannon -- NOTE nothing against Mike, but I
BJ> JP> need a comparison) can CD Caddies be bought and how much??

BJ>Profit Publishing in Arizona (see ads in back of PC mags) sells caddies
BJ>for $4.75 (any quantity) with purchase of a CD. They're the producers of
BJ>the FAO and the MEGA series of CDs. Nice folks to deal with - just like
BJ>Mike.

John,

We carry the higher quality Japanese-made caddies at prices ranging from
$4.99 to $4.39.  Here is the quantity breakdown:

    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

Hope this info helps.  Call if you need any - lots in stock.

later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4520
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93  9:03p
Subj: BRAND NEW CD TITLES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #1:  NEW CD ARRIVALS   |
           |____________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

 5-STAR PREMIUM WINDOWS * Latest Windows shareware + 950 OS2 files!.....$27
 AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK 93/94 * New release. 11,000,000 businesses.$39
 AMINET AMIGA * New from Walnut Creek. Lots of current Amiga shareware..$15
 ARIZONA IMAGES * Fabulous photos of the Arizona desert country.........$30
 CANADIAN SHAREWARE * 6500+ shareware programs ready to run from the CD.$22
 COLOR MAGIC CLIPART * 600 megs. of 3-D color clipart.  Royalty-free....$27
 FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$30
 GAMEWARE COLLECTION * Over 6000 of the all time best games! BBS-ready..$24
 GIGA GAMES * Brand new from Walnut Creek. Set up for 6 popular BBS's...$26
 HAMWARE 93 * The Ham's #1 source for Ham software......................$28
 KING'S QUEST VI * Newest in the KQ series. Better than 7th Guest!......$47
 MAC MULTIMEDIA SPACE * A multimedia space encyclopedia. (Mac only).....$39
 MAC SHAREWARE * Loads of innovative new Macintosh shareware programs...$24
 MICROSOFT GOLF * Multimedia Golf game that is "on par with reality"....$58
>PHOENIX 4.0 * Finally - An update to 3! Very clean CD with fresh files.$28
 PHONEDISC USA * Summer '93 edition w/ 80 million residential listings..$69
 PINACOTHECA M/M * Multimedia presentation of classical paintings.......$24
 PRECISION MAPPING 1.5 * Newest release! Detailed street-level map......$79
 REEL CLIPS * 600mb of royalty-free digital video clips.................$44
 SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
>SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 * Brand new w/ pure 1993 files! The NEWEST s/w CD!.$37
>SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD * Totally new shareware w/ no dupes to Vault 2!....$29

                    Adult Titles (must state age 21+)
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 AMATEUR MODELS * All original images of young models. BBS-ready........$35
 BUSTY BABES 3.0 * Newest release of top-selling disc. BBS-ready........$25
>DEEP THROAT * CD version of the famous adult flick. Truly a must-see!..$59
 DIRTY TALK * Full-color, full-motion video w/ adult film stars.........$59
 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2 * Sequel to release 1 with fresh, new images.......$36
 KAMA SUTRA * Indian documentary adult film w/ narration................$59
 LUSCIOUS LADIES * Hot new adult .GIF CD with outstanding cover art.....$37
 MYSTIQUE OF THE ORIENT * 600mb movie featuring Oriental beauties.......$59
>PHONE SEX * Actual .WAV file recordings of 900-number conversations....$27
 SEYMORE BUTTS INTERACTIVE * Fantastic new "interactive" adult film.....$49
 SOUTHERN BEAUTIES * Gorgeous photos of beautiful southern women........$30
 TOTAL FANTASY * Newly released .GIF disc from Denmark..................$33

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4521
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93  9:03p
Subj: NEWEST SHAREWARE CD!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |  Title:  SHAREWARE ONLINE #2  |  |   Price:  $37   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

     This outstanding new CD is the ABSOLUTE NEWEST and MOST UP-TO-DATE
     shareware CD available!  All files are dated 1993 with the exception
     of five program sets, giving you a full array of late-release
     shareware, dated between January and August 1993!

     * Fully BBS ready with file listings in six different formats,
       including FILES.BBS, for use with virtually any BBS system.  File
       lists are in every directory, and also a master text directory.
     * No dupes to release 1.
     * 623mb total occupied disc space.
     * 4200+ total files.
     * Improved Shareware Online file retrieval system.
     * All files dated 1/93 to 8/93.
     * Separate directory of ANSI pictures for sysops.

     Don't be fooled by the lower file count on ShareWare OnLine.  ONLY
     QUALITY PROGRAMS are included on this disc.  Very few text files and
     "junk" which makes file numbers high...

       MASTER DIRECTORY INFORMATION FOR: ShareWare OnLine Vol. #2

     DIRECTORY NAME     # OF FILES     TOTAL DIR SIZE    AVERAGE FILE SIZE
   -----------------------------------------------------------------------
       \ANSIPIC              24           2,689,465           112,061
       \ARCHIVER             41           4,172,687           101,773
       \BBSDOORS            112          17,553,296           156,726
       \BBS_SOFT            228          26,881,458           117,901
       \CAD                  42           6,270,163           149,290
       \CLIPART              75          18,175,874           242,345
       \COMM1               198          18,774,740            94,822
       \COMM2               162          22,958,736           141,721
       \DATABASE            128          20,790,364           162,425
       \DEMOS                85          45,597,484           536,441
       \DESK                 33           6,753,341           204,647
       \EDUCATE              68          11,723,020           172,397
       \ELECMAIL             95           8,681,269            91,382
       \FINANCE             127          26,224,848           206,495
       \GAMES1              221          31,420,660           142,175
       \GAMES2              209          27,878,576           133,390
       \GRAPHICS            121          21,256,628           175,675
       \HAM                  35           3,103,623            88,675
       \HOBBY                53           9,630,653           181,710
       \INFOR               177          10,400,453            58,760
       \LINUX                30          29,337,500           977,917
       \MISC                139          21,399,340           153,952
       \MUSIC               184          33,523,012           182,190
       \NETWORK              43           6,746,650           156,899
       \OS2                 124          21,254,494           171,407
       \PICTURE             282          45,412,660           161,038
       \PRINTING             24           3,185,427           132,726
       \PROG                 90          12,857,472           142,861
       \TRUETYPE            277          15,218,836            54,942
       \UTIL1               184          16,319,479            88,693
       \UTIL2               112          12,274,360           109,593
       \VIRUS                25           3,063,903           122,556
       \WIN1                168          22,268,988           132,554
       \WIN2                144          23,869,468           165,760
       \WORD                155          15,094,726            97,385
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   T O T A L S:           4,215         622,763,648           147,749

Special offer:  Get Shareware Online 1 AND 2 for only $57!  Best of 92/93.
                >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 4522
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 09/03/93  8:31a
Subj: GREAT VALUE & SERVICE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

IF YOU SHIP COD, I WOULD LIKE THE FOLLOWING CD-ROM DISKS.
1. PROPHONE 1993 7-DISC SET $37.00
2. FOXES $19.00
3. EROTIC ENCOUNTERS $26.00
4. BUSTY BABES (2)) $19.00 EACH  $38.00
--------------------------------------------
TOTAL $120.00 PLUS S&H AND COD CHARGES
SEND TO:STEVE GREENO
        A.B.O. TECHNOLOGY
        2239 E. BROADWAY
        TUCSON AZ. 85719
FAX # 1-602-292-0497
VOICE 1-602-884-7260
IF YOU COULD FAX ME AND CONFIRM MY ORDER, IT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
THANK-YOU

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 4523
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/03/93 10:37p
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PAT:  I OWN A COMPUTER STORE IN TUCSON AZ. AND WOULD LIKE TO TRADE ANY ONE ITEM
THAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR IN TRADE FOR YOUR BB#1. IF INTERESTED YOU CAN LEAVE
MESSAGE OR FAX ME AT 1-602-292-0497.
THANKS.

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From: DAVID M. WHITE                         Number: 4524
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 09/04/93 10:06a
Subj: Busty Babes v1.0r                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SG> IF YOU CAN FAX ME A PRICE LIST ON ALL YOUR CDROMS, I WOULD

Would suggest that you get a price list from Mike Shannon also-he has about
the best prices of anyone who advertises here. 


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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 4525
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/04/93  4:19p
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I AM LOOKING FOR THE FOLLOWING CD-ROM'S
1.HOT PIX #1
2.BUSTY BABES #1
3.ADAM
IF YOU HAVE ANY OF THE ABOVE PLEASE FAX ME OR LEAVE MESSAGE.
THANK-YOU
FAX # 1-602-292-0497

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From: ADRIAN VERGOT                          Number: 4526
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93  9:14p
Subj: Make your own CD-ROM!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM? 
 
CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your proprietary DOS or Windows
files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and Affordable.
All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information
(600+ Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (other
formats considered on a case by case basis) and we will directly
transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any
ISO compliant CD-ROM drive (just about every one made today!)
 
- Confidentiality is assured
- $99 per CD-ROM
- additional copies only $50 each
- Turn around time is about 2 days
- BBS Sysops call for rates
- We accept money orders and cashiers checks
- Pesonal Check orders will be shipped when check clears bank
 
If interested, call (412) 942-4694 and ask for Adrian 
Auto Fax (412) 942-4694
 
Enclose a signed copy of the following disclaimer with your order:
 
DUE TO THE BULK NATURE OF THIS SERVICE, CD-ROM CREATIONS (c) DOES
NOT AND CAN NOT CENSOR AND DETERMINE THE NATURE OF THE MATERIEL
THAT THE CUSTOMER IS PROVIDING.  IT IS THEREFORE THE SOLE
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER TO ENSURE THAT NO COPYRIGHT
VIOLATIONS EXIST IN PLACING THE DATA ONTO CD-ROM
                      Signed ______________________________
                                     Your Signature

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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 4527
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/06/93  8:34p
Subj: Re: CDs For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Bob Jackson to Dick Huddleston <=-

(1:106/9670) 

 BJ> I left you a couple of phone messages. I'm holding all 5 for you. I'm
 BJ> out  in  Clear Lake.  


Thanks! I have been labor daying it with all my kids, their spouses, and
their/my kids/grandkids, away from phone.  Will call tomorrow (Tues) and
get a money order in the mail.  




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From: THOMAS NUFER                           Number: 4528
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/03/93  4:12p
Subj: Re: CDROM areas                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The Graphics net sounds nice!Count me in!

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From: THOMAS NUFER                           Number: 4529
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/03/93  8:27p
Subj: Re: U.S. Mail                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

There are pros and cons for both UPS and the Postal Service!Such as will UPS go
on strike in next couple of week and your packages get stuck in a warehouse for
a month til thats over!Or will the Postal Service find a way to stick your
package thru one of their patented rip and shred machines!

With UPS, I have had the following happen...
  1)Sent a Hard Drive,COD to Louisana.It was delivered in a weeks time.The
driver knocked and left the package at the door without collecting the money!
The person I sent it to called me and UPS refused to send a driver to pick up
his money!But they did say they would refund the money I paid to send it COD!
When I told them that I would just file a small claims court suit if I didn't
get my money the following week,it (the money) arrived the next day!
 2)I ordered an AMIGA 2000 thru the fido echoes!It included the moniter!It
arrived a laptop (3" tall)!The driver couldn't understsnd why I refused
delivery of this COD item!Luckily the person did insure it for the full value 
and now has an AMIGA 4000!

But then again...
1)I have mailed Christmas cards to my sister-in-law,who lives 5 miles away and
she never recieved them.
2) and I am still waiting for the manuals,Colin Kreebel,mailed to me 1 1/2
months ago from Florida,to an AE HD floppy drive!

So stick to the one that seems to work for ya!Because I have a feeling it is
more a matter who is working that day,on whether the package gets there or not!

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From: J. ALLEN                               Number: 4530
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 09/06/93  1:02p
Subj: RE: Jem Disk claimed "Savings"          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DR>  JA>     Where's the Beef???
DR>
DR> What is it with you?  Every post you put into this conference, you're
DR>tryin to stirr sh!t up with the dealers.  Why don't you take your whiney
DR>little ass off to Free Spirit and stay there?

Guy, do you have the word Hypocrite tatooed across your forehead or what??
Your last three posts in a row here have been low quality "flames" to
dealers (Boris,Ismail,Free Spirit).  Additionally, I have never posted to
you, yet you have posted three flames to me in this echo.  Is this a sample
of how you treat you customers particularly if they have a problem or are
not satisified with the product you have sold them???

Unlike you, I support all my postings with facts and logic (Beef), while you
offer only "bull" and cuss words in valueless flames, defending your support
of misleading advertising.

You are your own worst PR ememy, only you are not quite bright enough to
figure that out.  It is quite apparent that your family tree has no
branches... Learn some ethics and maybe try to improve the intellectual
level of your postings(flames).  Most readers in this echo expect a little
more than the basic name calling,swearing, Kiddie-NET, type of postings that
you are only able to muster.

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From: DENNY VANDEMAELE                       Number: 4531
  To: DANNY BRIGANCE                           Date: 09/06/93  2:10p
Subj: Bible CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Danny Brigance to All dated 09-05-93 ***
> Can anyone give me any info about the various Bible CD's.  I am 
> interested in purchasing one but am not sure which one to get.  I have 
> seen the Bible Library, Bibles & Religion, Holy Bible, and Interactive 
> Bible.  Any comments would be appreciated.  Thanks.....
Hello Danny,
I have the Bible Library, and although it has a lot of neat books and works on
it, it has a very hard to use interface to view those works.  Actually, I'll
sell you mine if you like.  

BTW, I have tons of Bible Studies for Freq at the address in the Origin Line.
Den

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 4532
  To: MICHAEL KOKOTT                           Date: 09/07/93  5:17a
Subj: Re: Dealers WANTED !!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 05 Sep 93  18:06:00, I heard Michael Kokott shout to Kevin Plummer:

MK> Hello Kevin,
MK> 
MK> are you looking for dealers only for the usa or for other countries too?
MK> I'm from germany and if you are interested in selling your cd's here you
MK> are welcom to send me a mail!
MK> 
MK> Greetings
MK> Michael

Yes, I am interested, Please send me your Address, Or Phone, or a Fax number 
to get you more information.

                             .....|<evin

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From: MIKE ZIER                              Number: 4533
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 09/05/93  8:57p
Subj: Re: Jem Disk Trade In                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

While eating a doughnut, Officer Arnie Gross said this to Michael Crosson:

 MC> Send us your old CD-Rom (in good condition) and $14.95 and we'll
 MC> send you Jem Disc I shareware CD-Rom collection..... The current
 MC> price without trade in is $19.95 plus S/H so this deal represents
 MC> a savings of $10.
 AG>
 AG> $19.95
 AG> -14.95
 AG> ------
 AG> $ 5.00 savings, not $10, unless you are including shipping on this
 AG> item.

It says 19.95 + Shipping - perhaps the other $5 is S/H ?

Mike


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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 4534
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 09/07/93  1:47p
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jeff Jenkins beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

JJ>Well yes, if you buy it there it will be 299.00
JJ>but if you look on this echo, you will see tha Star Vector carries it
JJ>for 97.00 I have the catalog right in front of me.
JJ>If you want to call them to confirm that is the same thing ....go ahea
JJ>It pays to shop around!

I believe you. But I have a feeling that is the upgrade package which I
have seen at or near that price.

Yup, sure does pay to look around.

Ron


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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 4535
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/07/93  7:41p
Subj: CD ROM WANTED                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for Wizardworks CICA Windows shareware cd. I'll pay about $15
plus a bit for shipping.

Ron
813-978-0527


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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 4536
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/07/93  7:44p
Subj: CD PACKAGE DEALS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike Shannon beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

MS>          ________________________________________________________
MS>         |                                                        |
MS>         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #5: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS   |
MS>         |________________________________________________________|

Mike,

I'm looking for Wizardworks CICA Windows shareware cd. I'll pay about $15
plus a bit for shipping.

Ron
813-978-0527


 * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * NO special rights for behavior!


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From: MARK SANCHEZ                           Number: 4537
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/07/93  9:58p
Subj: Cheap CD-rom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

New Mitsumi 350ms cd-rom with controller      $185.00
  w/ World Atlas/Encyclopedia/Chessmaster     $265.00

Panasonic Double Speed Internal w/interface   $265.00
Toshiba XM3401B 200ms internal                $495.00


Other Computer hardware available

Call Lee at BCD
Tampa,Fl (813)972-9263


                                                      Mark S.


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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4538
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 09/07/93  6:42p
Subj: RE: Toshiba Q's                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DK>I bought the Toshiba 34019(internal) about a month ago,and so far haven't
DK>had any problems. I got the CD-Rom,PAS16(sound card which CD-Rom can plug
DK>into) and the kit(cable's,etc.) for $549. at CD-Rom Direct.

    Thanks muchly for the info. I'm seeing about getting the Toshiba
    presently. Turns out that my new Step-Father works for a computer
    place that sells Toshibas. Didn't realize it until I mentioned
    looking for one. Looks like he may set me up with one, although
    he's also taking the opportunity to revamp my whole system in the
    process! We'll see...    :->

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4539
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 09/07/93  6:58p
Subj: ADULT CD FOR TRADE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>Well, I know exactly what you mean. Being a woman myself, as well as
MS>a wife, I understand this, but I've got one up on the men. I own my own
MS>CD-ROM company! Hey, and as for discs for us ladies, I still haven't
MS>found one, but Hot Hunks sounds like it might be promising. ;-)

    Really? I haven't heard of this one. Any info on what it contains?
    Know of anyone who sells it?

    When you say that you have your own company, is that sales? Or do you
    produce CDs? If sales, do you have a catalog (and info on obtaining
    same)?

MS>   Gimme a call sometime 306-789-4654, and we'll discuss the politics of
MS>men and their "adult" discs. (Which are NEVER wife-proof).

    No politics, really <grin>. I just thought I'd take the opportunity of
    someone asking to let dealers know that they might be turning off
    potential (female) customers. I'm far from being a feminist, but those
    "wife proof" descriptions kinda gripe me... I'm far less likely to buy
    from someone who describes them as such.

    At any rate, If you drop a line in the (non-sale) CDROM conference
    (what net is this?), we can discuss "politics" of the adult CDs!

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4540
  To: MICHAEL COLLIER                          Date: 09/07/93  7:04p
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MC>  I think a good idea might be, ala Ms. Sorensen from up here in Canada,
MC>for the CDrom vendors in this conference, most of which are male, to
MC>graciously donate pictures of themselves au natural (and more!) for just
MC>such a compilation. I mean fair is fair don't you think...

    Well it depends upon quality and, uh... quantity!  ;->  I don't want
    to spend my hard-earned $$ on uninspiring pics.

MC>Now what would be a good name... Cute *icks: Read Only Males....

    How 'bout.... "See de' RAWm!"

    But maybe this should be moved to a general CDROM conference and not
    pursued in the FORSALE conference..  If you frequent one on this net,
    please drop me a line there and direct my attention that direction.

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4541
  To: NINO FAGAN                               Date: 09/07/93  7:06p
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*>Maybe one of these days someone will come out with a good CD full of
*>adult material for us ladies. And hopefully it'll be husband-proof.
*>I'd hate for hubby to realize that I'm enjoying such things!  ;-)

NF>Good for you Heather, well said!!!!

    Thank you, thank you. Don't applaud... please throw money! <grin>
    Maybe we can get a discussion of the topic going in the (non-sale)
    CDROM conference. Drop me a line there?

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4542
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/07/93  7:30p
Subj: CD's for Women                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HK> know of an adult CD which is slanted toward females? Title and...
BJ>I'm *not* a dealer, but if you could define what you mean by "...slanted
BJ>towards females..." maybe I (and others) could suggest a few.

    Hmmm... I guess that would probably be varied by individual (female)
    preference. Actually, I enjoy the ones I've seen, but might put less
    emphasis on male climax (all over the place <g>). It would be nice
    to have more shots of male *bodies*, and not just certain body parts.
    Gee... how specific can one get in a non-age-restricted conference
    when describing such things?  :->

    Interaction, penetration, etc. are good, but I'm not all that choked
    up about "oddities" and pics of kinky stuff. Smallish BBS ads are ok,
    but the ones that take up half the screen are a bummer. And the long
    intro BBS ads in movie files are a real hassle (don't like to wait
    through them, and feel cheated that so much of the disk is taken up
    by something I have to watch over and over!). Even worse are loud,
    attention-getting noises in movie files.

    Would rather have fewer high-quality items on the disk than umpteen
    million bits of junk with A Few Good Men thrown in. Mixtures of still
    pics and movies are good since hubby likes the stills and I enjoy the
    motion. Menu interface is nice, IF it works properly (I had lots of
    trouble with CDMENU on Ecstacy Hot Pics, even when I put the files on
    hard drive instead of CD - lots of GIFs that wouldn't show, and memory
    errors viewing movie files).

    So.... Any recommendations for what's available currently, based on the
    above? Prices? Dealers?  If you care to discuss/review certain disks,
    I guess that we could take the discussion to a (non-sale) CDROM
    conference. Name the place - I'd appreciate hearing about some of
    what's out there.

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4543
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/07/93  8:20p
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC>Hot Hunks......$38.95....615-339-0235 24 hours to order.

    Thanks for the info. I just heard from someone else about this one...
    hadn't heard about it before. I just ordered 2 others, but will keep
    your message for reference when my budget recovers <g>.

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4544
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 09/07/93  8:26p
Subj: Adult Cd For Wives?                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>I guess that trick will work on some, but certainly not all wives.  My
JL>wife has her own little tricks as well.  Sometimes her trick is just
JL>pretending not to catch on to mine. <G>

    Sometimes that's the best tactic.  ;-)

  >   know of an adult CD which is slanted toward females? Title and
  >   price, dealers?
JL>Hot Hunks is one such title.  Fair warning, though.  It is slanted for
JL>gays as well as women.  I sell Hot Hunks for $39.

    Hmmm... I appreciate the warning. Any thoughts on what percentage
    is gay? Comments on quality of images? Are there stills, movies?
    If this wouldn't be the area to "review" the disk, I'd be happy to
    hear more about it in the (non-sale) CDROM conference here on FIDO.
    Thanks muchly for the info.

- Heather
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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 4545
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/07/93  6:13p
Subj: Copyright.                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     Despite the controversy, music stores are selling used audio CDs for $7-$8
apiece.

     The only problem there seems to be with books are paperbacks with covers
torn off.  Dealers return covers to distributors for $$$$ credit.  A book, or
magazine, sold without its cover is considered "stolen property".  See the
warning on the back of the title page of any current paperback.

     Unsold hardcover books are returned and may end up remaindered on those
tables in the middle of bookstore aisles.  Some have suggested that paperbacks
and magazines of some form of disk will mean returned merchandise.  Half the
copies of your non-bigname magazine end up in the dealer's trash.


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 4546
  To: BILL ALEXANDER                           Date: 09/07/93  2:13p
Subj: Re: CDRoms for sale                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> EB>  Simtel MSDOS May 1993              $15.00  630+ Megs MSDOS
>> EB>  Aminet June 1993                   $15.00  Hundreds of megs of Amiga

>> Send me these two items for $40 total ($15 apiece + $5 S&H and $5 COD) to:
>>
>> Bill Alexander
>> 509 Pine Ridge Ln.
>> Aubrey,TX 76227

Bill, they are on their way.  They went out Tue, 9-7, you should have
them no later than 9-10.

Thanks and enjoy,
Eric


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From: KAREL VITAMVAS                         Number: 4547
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 09/06/93  1:15a
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Michellea,

 MS> INSTOCK quanitities last! They are:

 MS>                                         Cdn$   US$
 MS>             ProPhone 1993 7-disc set      50    37

Can you give me more info on the ProPhone 1993 7-disc set at $50Cad.

What is on these discs?  Do they give the address as well as phone numbers? 
Can you use the discs only for one year from the time you start to use it or a
limited number of look-ups? ( Like American Business Phone Book)

What is your total price including everything in Cdn$.

Thanks
Karel

P.s. I live in Ontario.



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From: KAREL VITAMVAS                         Number: 4548
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93  1:23a
Subj: ProPhones 1993                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi all,

I would like to know what you think of ProPhones 1993 if you have it or if you
have seen it.  Does it have limits on it like American Business Phone Book
which lets you look up only 5,000 phone numbers or 12 months from the date of
installation?

Any info you cam provide wiuld be great.

Thanks,
Karel


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From: CHRIS WHITING                          Number: 4549
  To: DANIEL SALLEE                            Date: 09/06/93 12:30a
Subj: Re: Forsale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Daniel Sallee to All <=-

 DS> I have a CDR-1000 CD-rom approximatley 3 months old with Docs,
 DS> installation disk and cables forsale must sell ASAP due to upgrade. 
 DS> FIrst $125.00 or best offer takes it.  Call Dan at 602-969-9204 or Net
 DS> mail me at 1:114/186. 
     Have you sold it yet.  I would be interested (and will pay for 
     shipping charges - of course).


... I've come to kick #$% and chew bubble gum. I'm all out of bubble gum.
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From: MARK RICHARDSON                        Number: 4550
  To: CHRIS WISE                               Date: 09/07/93  6:03p
Subj: Cdrom games                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >    Just taking a guess that you have a Mitsumi?  The reason
 > why I guess
 > this is because the CD line has two wires switched, and they
 > have to be
 > reversed for them to work.  There is three ways to do this --
 > 1. To buy
 > the adapter for it.  2. Splice the line and switch the wires.
 > 3. You
 > will note a tab on the CD line, if you shave this flush you
 > will be able
 > to flip the connector over, and I have heard (have not tried
 > it) that
 > this will work.

  Yes I have a Mitsumi.. that should help my problem too! I will try that.
Thank you very much.

                Mark

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From: PETER BOWMAR                           Number: 4551
  To: GORD DAVIS                               Date: 09/07/93  5:48p
Subj: masking                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Gord. How does Masking work? I tried to mask out some of the Fido confs and
they keep appearing. Is it broken? By the way, the Fido action is very cool.

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4552
  To: JOHN PIMENTEL                            Date: 09/06/93  9:10p
Subj: CD CADDIES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JP>Where (other than Mike Shannon -- NOTE nothing against Mike, but I need a 
  >comparison) can CD Caddies be bought and how much?? 
 
We sell caddies for $5.00 a piece and jewel cases for $.75 each, with or 
without a CD-Rom purchase. Give us a call if you need anything. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4553
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/06/93  9:14p
Subj: CDs For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>CD Winbox            Encyclopedia of ClipArt 
  >World of Flight      World of Trains 
 
Hi Bob.  I'll take these if still available.  Let me know if you would 
rather make a trade for something new.  I'll got lots to choose from. :) 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4554
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93  9:54p
Subj: New CD-Roms                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The new CD-Rom titles are starting to roll in.  Here are a few examples: 
 
Shareware Explorer - The best multiple disc set to be released to date! 
There are 3 MS-DOS discs and 1 Windows disc.  26,000 files with less 
than 1% duplication.  These discs are easy to set up with SF-Rom or 
EZ-ROM using the PCBoard style file lists with dates and sizes.  File 
dates are mostly 1992 and 1993, which is very impressive for a 
collection this large!                                     Price $59.00 
 
King's Quest VI "Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow" - A multimedia fantasy & 
adventure game by Sierra.  A shipwrecked prince must find his way across 
a series of islands in search of a princess in peril. You'll need all 
your wits and imagination to overcome the gauntlet of baffling puzzles 
and fantastic creatures that attempt to keep you from your goal. 
Can be played under DOS or Windows.                        Price $50.00 
 
Precision Mapping - A complete mapping program that includes 
street-level maps of the entire continental United States on two CD-Rom 
discs. The end-user can view, edit, print, and query map data at any 
scale from the entire U.S. down to a city block. Look up addresses, 
measure distances, plan out travel routes, print out laser quality maps, 
clip raster images for import to other packages, create your own 
customized maps of virtually any type or scale...and much more! 
This is version 1.5 with improved online help.  This set also includes 
the American Business Phonebook CD-Rom.                    Price $85.00 
 
Look for the following new shareware titles coming soon: 
 
Software Vault Gold 
PC Sig Volume 13 
Shareware Studio III 
Phoenix 4 
Pier 3 
 
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales!          Call for our latest catalog or 
(205) 793-4481 Voice                  log on and download catalog.zip. 
(205) 671-0092 BBS                    Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
 
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4555
  To: BILL ALEXANDER                           Date: 09/08/93  2:48a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>> )))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((

BO>> NOW IN STOCK  BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
BO>> period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
BO>> bustiest babes in North America including  Canadian gals
BO>> who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
BO>> viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.

BO>>                      PRICE - $25.00

BO>> To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263

BO>> )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((


>>    Boris,

>>    If you deliver COD I will call your order line listed above.

>>    I don't use credit cards (couldn't trust the wife or myself
>>    with one).

>>    Thanks


Not a problem Bill, you want we should brown bag it for you too...grin!

Give us a call and we'll be happy to help you in anyway we can.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4556
  To: MARK ELSON                               Date: 09/08/93  2:48a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes II                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Boris,

>>    Are you going to carry the Busty Babes II??? If so and they
>>    are 25.00 please send me one when they are released...you
>>    should have my info on hand...if not let me know...

We've handled Lee's cd's so long, it would be a crime not to Mark!

As for price, until we get our first copy in hand, we'll hold off
posting prices as they change from one week to the next. But I can
assure you, it will be close.

Chat with you soon....watch for our post !

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4557
  To: BRYNE BOTTOMS                            Date: 09/08/93  2:48a
Subj: Re: Canadian sales                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    * In a message originally to Ron Richmond, Boris Osadciw said:
BO->>>>    To ALL.
BO->>>>          I had ordered Busty Babes vol.2 from Dave and it was
BO->>>>       held at the border. The P.O. would not return it to Dave
BO->>>>       and when I called Fed.Ex they estimated $24 to $36 Can.
BO->>>>       depending on actual weight,to send it back. Estimated only,
BO->>>>       because I cannot get the disk to them from Customs.and they
BO->>>>       would have to pick it up at the P.O. I chose to abandon the
BO->>>>       disk, as this would be almost as much as the original cost.
BO->>>>       Customs would not tell me which disks would be stopped.
BO->>>>       Canadians would be well advised to order from Vince and
BO->>>>       Michellea Sorensen. Ron.

BO->>We have shipped hundreds of adult cd's to Canada and never
BO->>had a problem
BO->>with customes. In fact, we just shipped a major order to
BO->>Ontario and the
BO->>customer received it with ease and NO CUSTOM FEE's.

BO->>I guess it's all in the way you ship your products and or
BO->>handle the
BO->>matterial.

BO->>On another note, customes will ship the package back if it
BO->>is so stated
BO->>on the package. Even if it is not allowed to enter the
BO->>country, it will be
BO->>returned to the shipper at his/her expense. This again is
BO->>only true if the
BO->>shipper has stated this on the package.

BO->>Just a few cents worth......

BO->>Boris Osadciw

>>    I got my Adult CD's from the U.S yesterday with no problem at
>>    all and also no customs fees were added either.

Glad to hear it and hopefully we'll be hearing from you again real soon!

Boris Osadciw

... I married the Mail Lady!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4558
  To: RON RICHMOND                             Date: 09/08/93  2:48a
Subj: Re: canadian sales                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>>We have shipped hundreds of adult cd's to Canada and never had a problem
BO>>with customes. In fact, we just shipped a major order to Ontario and the
BO>>customer received it with ease and NO CUSTOM FEE's.

>>    Thanks for your interest Boris, I purchased my ROM Drive from
>>    you and am still very satisfied with the purchase,and your
>>    follow up. ===

Glad to hear it !! Never let it be said, we try to sell you something you
don't want....grin -:)

You'll be even more please when you see our BRAND NEW CATALOG ! To put it
lightly....it's AWSOME and so are the savings and FREE BEES !!

Watch your mail box soon....if you don't get yours soon, drop us a note
and YELL for a copy or you'll miss out on a lot of specials.

Chat with you soon.....

Boris Osadciw

... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4559
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/08/93  2:48a
Subj: DR.CD Collection                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

)))))))))))))))))))))) H O T  N E W  C D ' S ((((((((((((((((((((((

DR. MUSIC - Music Editors, MOD, MIDI, ROL, SND, VOC, WAV and more!
DR. SHAREWARE - 615 megs of shareware programs and utilities!
DR. GAMES - 600+ megs of Adventure, Arcade, Card, Sports and more!
DR. WINDOWS - 3,440 files of window programs and utilities!
        All BBS READY !! - BUY 5 AND GET THE 6TH ONE FREE !!
               Price - $55.00 for all 4 or $20.00ec
                        DEALERS WELCOME
ORDER LINE ONLY - 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4560
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/08/93  2:49a
Subj: Hot CD's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$
 CD POWERBOX/WINDOWS - $20         COMPTONS ENCYC UPGRADE   - $95.
 GAME OR SOUNDWARE   - $25.        ALL CHESTNUT TITLES      - $10.
 HACKER CHRONICAL    - $18.        JOKES/PRANKS - 1001 UTIL - $10.
 NIGHT OWL 9.0       - $25.        KINGS QUEST VI           - $47.
 SO-MUCH-SHAREWARE 3 - $29.        TOOLWORKS ENCYC DOS/WIN  - $49.
 SHAREWARE EXPLORER  - $59.        9000 SOUNDS              - $25.
 SOFTWARE VAULT 2    - $20.        5 STAR PREM DOS/WIN      - $29.
 DR.CD COLLECTION - 4 CD'S - $55.  PC KARAOKE W/MICROPHONE  - $89.
 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) - TECH 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: SCOTT MCMILLAN @ 913/8                 Number: 4561
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/07/93 10:38a
Subj: Low, Low cd prices                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sole Source Systems
8128-C Mercury Point
San Diego, CA 92111
Tel: 619-467-0661
Fax: 619-467-0665
BBS: 619-467-0666

                                                      September 6, 1993


                                       Special Pricing

Minimum order must exceed $100, prepaid only - NO COD's, FOB San Diego
California. Prices good for stock on hand. Offer expires September 31,
1993.
501 Sound Waves (SN)  . . . . . . . . . . . $21
Adventures of Willie Beamish (GA). . . . . .$15
Aesop's Fables . . .  . . . . . .  . . . . .$29
All American Multimedia (GR) . . . . . . .  $18
Amazing Universe (ED) .. . . . . . . . . . .$49
America's Premier Shareware 1993 (SW). . . .$19
Amiga Shareware (SW) . . . . . . . . . . . .$11
Annabel's Dream of Ancient Egypt (ED) . .   $49
Animation Fantasies (Adult)  . . . . . . . .$19
                     (Too Many To List Here !!!!, freq the file
"prices.txt" for the rest) Caddies

We have the standard sony type caddies - all japanese construction,
which is better - yet more expensive than the american product.  For
resellers, we have the following prices:
Japanese "Sony" type caddies
Qty 1-99 $4.79 each
Qty 100+ $4.00 each
Qty 300+ $3.80 each

We also have the new swiss designed and manufactured "TriCaddy", this
revolutionary new product has no moving parts.  It is completely made of
plastic and it is designed with the User who stores his CD's in their
caddies permanently. The user can remove his jewel case insert and place
it in the front of the Caddy.
                                Swiss "TriCaddy" type caddies
                                     Qty 1-49 $4.59 each
Qty 50+  $4.00 each
Qty 100+ $3.65 each
Call for large Qty price!

CD Rom Drives (Special Pricing, limited to stock on hand)

Hitachi Internal CD Rom Drive 800 Ms., Prop. Control.    $135
NEC Intersect External SCSI (With Packing - Complete).   $235
Panasonic SCSI Internal 500 Ms., 90 day swapout warranty w/o controller.
. . . . . . . $250
Panasonic SCSI External 500 Ms., 90 day swapout
warranty w/o controller. . . . . . . . $300

Controller for Panasonic SCSI Drive with Cable  . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . .$35

              ACT NOW!!! DON'T WAIT - THESE DEALS WON'T LAST!!!

For the rest of our awesome deals: freq prices.txt at (619)467-0666.

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From: MIKE FINK                              Number: 4562
  To: BILL ALEXANDER                           Date: 09/07/93  9:51p
Subj: Re: BB cd rom                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BA@>SK> Hey guys...does the Busty Babes CD show any "PINK"???
BA@>SK> Inquiring minds want to know...Id be interested if is showed some PINK!
BA@>Oh No!! Must be a YOUNG one to ask such a question!!

        Or maybe he just does not want to curse.  However, I would have
to agree!

        Sonic

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From: RICHARD BUNTON                         Number: 4563
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/06/93  7:50a
Subj: Lost Discs...???                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris, I thought I would let you know here, rather then calling
your 800 number...(every little bit counts...).

I have never recieved the original order I placed with you...

I told you I would call if it had not come by saturday. 

Needless to say...It has not come.  I'm sorry to say.

Maybe next time...


*****         *****           
 **** ICHARD   **** UNTON    Pax...
** **         *****          

 * DeLuxe2/386 1.25 #3885 * Richard Bunton...311 Grand...Belton, Mo.
64012-1432
                            Telephone 1-816-331-8296
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From: JOHN RUIZ                              Number: 4564
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 09/06/93  4:57p
Subj: Panasonic 562b                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ISMAIL, My friend, I sent you a request via the multi-media conference
last week about if you will be attending the Kent Computer swap meet on
the 11th Sept 1993.  Will you have the Panasonic 562b CD-ROM available
without the control card or with the control card at the show???  Next
question what will be the price at the show for the 562b cd-rom drive??
           Thank You.....   John Ruiz

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From: YVES CHARIER                           Number: 4565
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93  5:21p
Subj: Tempra access Photo CD Imaging software for sale/xchange  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello,

Following a mistake of my favorite French CD-ROM distributor (DP TOOL
Club), I have an extra copy Tempra Access CD-ROM for sale or xchange.

If you're interested in this good CD-ROM, please make your offer by
replying to this message, or private Netmail, or fax to +33-1-4001-
0493 or phone to +33-1-4001-9415.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

- Yves
(from Paris XIIth, France)


... Wolves are back in France!

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From: CHIP MORROW                            Number: 4566
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/07/93  8:11p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PR> Have 7th Guest for sale or trade, I'm looking for memory simms, or
PR> will sell for $40.OBO

I just happen to be looking for a copy of 7th Guest *WITH* the video
showing how it was made.  If this is what you have, I'm interested.

      Chip Morrow - voice 614-366-2296 evenings/weekends (Ohio)
                    netmail 1:226/1420


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From: CHIP MORROW                            Number: 4567
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/07/93  8:32p
Subj: 7th Guest w/video wanted                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The other day we were in the local software store looking over a copy
of 7th Guest (which they wanted a whole $70 (!!) for).

The curiosity is getting the best of us, and my wife is bugging me to
see the video on how this game was made, so I am ready to spend a few
dollars for a copy of the thing, but only the one WITH the video.

So far I have seen Mike Shannon offering new copies of this CD *WITHOUT*
video for $39 in this echo, but have seen very little else advertised
here lately that doesn't say simply "7th Guest".

The ideal situation would be to find someone with a used copy of both
the game and the video who is finished with it and no longer wants them.
Next choice would be to find out what the "with video" version can be
had for NEW through this echo.  My ideal price for a used copy is $35.
Whatcha got?

    Chip Morrow - netmail 1:226/1420 voice 614-366-2296 evenings (Ohio)


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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 4568
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/07/93 11:06p
Subj: Technical Shareware on CD-ROM           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Here's a brief view of technical software on recent CD-ROMs.
 EMS's products cost more, but you can see they ARE different.
 EMS Professional Shareware - voice:301-924-3594 Fax:301-963-2708
 Free brochure/catalog will tell you more.
 
                EMS   SMS3  Pier2  SS2  NOwl9 Win93 SV2
 Access           175
 Assembler        391                      17          15
 C/C++            987    98         288               216
 AutoCAD          820          51    45    30          34
 Xbase           2983          53    83    82         502
 Netware          801    58          48    42   172
 ObjectVision      91
 OS/2             302
 Paradox          490
 Sci/Eng          113          53          38    25    85
 SmallBusiness    238
 Spreadsheet      325          11    55    15    50    27
 TrueType         752   218   112               749
 TurboPascal      680    67         264    30         169
 VBasic Windows   425    59                     130
 VBDOS/QB/PDS     224               130
 Windows Utils    705                          Mixed
 
 EMS Professional Shareware, 7'93 (Oct. edition ships in three weeks)
 SMS3 - So Much Shareware #3
 SS2 - Shareware Studio #2
 NOwl9 - NightOwl #9
 Win93 - Windows 1993
 SV2 - Software Vault #2
** I've done my best to compare apples to apples, but all directories don't
compare neatly. Your milage may vary.
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From: CHARLIE PARKER                         Number: 4569
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/08/93  9:14a
Subj: Mad Dog McCree                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

      Hey Everyone I have just purchased Mad Dog McCree which is a
American Laser Game in the Arcade. If you like the arcade version then you
need to purchase this one. It is perfectly like the original and plays very
well. There is a slight prob with my SB16 ASP card but they arre making a fix
for it(will be out next month).    Thankx for listening

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From: MARK LONG                              Number: 4570
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93  6:23p
Subj: FCC LICENSE CD                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a CDROM that has the FCC commercial licenses listed on it.
I need to have search capablilty based on city and frequency.  Coverage needs
to be in the business band, GMRS, and government.  
Respond with price and ordering info if you have one.
Thanks..
ML.


... Toner refills-Canon\HP\Sharp\Xerox\many more 39.99exch.  (405)422-3051
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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 4571
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/07/93 11:20a
Subj: BBSCON                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>A public area like this is monitored by authorities, and its not that I am
LN>skirting the issue, it's that I am not comfortable talking about the Adult C
LN>industry in this echo--

Finally!!!!!!!!!!  The truth is brought out!  And everyone was flaming
me for trying to tone down the topic over in CDROM!!!!!!!!!!!


LN>You would should consult a first ammendment attorney in your area for these
LN>answers--I would be speaking out of tongue to say what I feel your State wil
LN>tolerate.

Another good point.


LN>WOuld love to talk to you but not in this echo or others--Netmail be 3618/23
LN>and I will be a little more relaxed about the issue in which you address.


Thanks Lee, for bringing up these topics.

Bob Hall
moderator of the Other CDROM Echo :-)

1-800-550-3503
if you want to chat.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4572
  To: ED ROGOFF                                Date: 09/08/93 10:57a
Subj: CDS FOR SALE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

All that's left is Ham Radio and I've put up a new post for it. CALL if  you're
interested. Thanks. 
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4573
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/08/93 11:26a
Subj: PHONE CDS                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike: 
  
If I needed to find the address/phone of all businesses in a particular 
area code, would one on those phone set/thing CDs do the job? 
Recommendations? 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4574
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 09/08/93 11:22a
Subj: REVIEW CD                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Yo, Ismail: 
  
If you sent me a CD for review, I haven't received it as of Sept. 8. Not 
complaining, just thought you'd want to know in case it's lost.  Don't 
want you thinking I didn't hold up my end (which, by the way, now 
requires both hands!). 
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From: DAVID HUTTON                           Number: 4575
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/05/93 11:46p
Subj: BSR CD-ROM Drive Wanted                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a couple of the BSR CD-ROM drives.  The ones I want are
the ones that DAK sold a year or so ago.  They have SONY CDU-6201-10 on
the bottom.  I want to add a couple to a BBS.  Call my BBS at
307-637-5930 or leave me a message here.

               David


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From: WAYNE ROZNAK                           Number: 4576
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/07/93 10:36p
Subj: Wanted Phillips CM212 Caddies           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for caddies for a Phillips CM212.

Best Regards
Wayne Roznak


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From: WAYNE ROZNAK                           Number: 4577
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/07/93 10:44p
Subj: CD CADDIES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you carry the caddy for the Phillips CM212 drives if so how much.
And if you don't do you know who does.

Thanks
Wayne Roznak
305-824-3900 Work
305-354-8670 Home after 5pm

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4578
  To: CHRIS JOHNSON                            Date: 09/07/93 11:43p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Chris!

06 Sep 93, Chris Johnson writes to Pat Rickerson:


 PR>> Hello Chris!

 PR>> Have 7th Guest for sale or trade, I'm looking for
 PR>> memory simms, or will sell for $40.OBO


 CJ>         my BO is 35.. YOU ship?

 CJ>                 Chris Johnson

Send your check whene I get it I'll send it off.
411 Ninth St. NAS Corpus Christi,Tx 78418

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4579
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 09/08/93  6:55a
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Steve!

03 Sep 93, Steve Greeno writes to Pat Rickerson:

 SG> PAT:  I OWN A COMPUTER STORE IN TUCSON AZ. AND WOULD LIKE TO TRADE ANY
ONE
 SG> ITEM THAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR IN TRADE FOR YOUR BB#1. IF INTERESTED YOU
CAN
 SG> LEAVE MESSAGE OR FAX ME AT 1-602-292-0497. THANKS.

Well I am ready to trade! Let me know where to send it and what you offer and
I'll get it in the mail to you! In real need of a 386Dx40 and 2 meg of simms.
Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4580
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 09/08/93  6:59a
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Steve!

04 Sep 93, Steve Greeno writes to All:

 SG> I AM LOOKING FOR THE FOLLOWING CD-ROM'S
 SG> 1.HOT PIX #1
 SG> 2.BUSTY BABES #1
 SG> 3.ADAM
 SG> IF YOU HAVE ANY OF THE ABOVE PLEASE FAX ME OR LEAVE MESSAGE.
 SG> THANK-YOU
 SG> FAX # 1-602-292-0497

I still have mine, (BB#1) if you have anything to trade, thought I had it
traded a couple if times but it didn't work out.
Pat

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4581
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/08/93  1:12a
Subj: CD-ROM LIQUIDATION!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #4:  CD-ROM LIQUIDATION!   |
         |________________________________________________________|

            All sales are final - Sale limited to stock on hand!

                              GENERAL TITLES
                              --------------
Q & A 4.0...........$34   Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15   House of Games......$20
Compton's Interact..$95   US Wars: Korea......$29   US Wars: Des. Storm.$29
US Wars: Vietnam....$29   Super CD 1..........$14   Guinness Disc 92....$16
Amiga AB-20.........$13   Conan the Cimmerian.$27   Game Pack 2.........$22
Original S/W 1993...$10   Phoenix 3.0.........$12   Jedi Collection.....$39
Lion's Share........$20   Clipart Galore......$25   Reel Clips..........$35
Windoware...........$10   Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$22   Ham Radio 3.0.......$10
Top 2000 Shareware..$18   Software Vault 1....$17   Window Master.......$17
Return to the Moon..$26   Find-It Webster.....$38   Great Wonders.......$32

                     ADULT TITLES (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
Storm 2.............$19   PC-PIX 1............$25   PC-PIX 2............$25
PC-PIX 3............$25   Seventh Heaven......$25   Seedy 6-Pak........$119
My First Time.......$35   Erotic Encounters...$29   Private Collection..$29

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4582
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/08/93  1:12a
Subj: NEW CD 4-PAK!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            __________________________________     _____________
           |                                  |   |             |
           | Title:  SHAREWARE EXPLORER 4-PAK |   | Price:  $54 |
           |__________________________________|   |_____________|

     This great 4-volume shareware CD set is brought to you by the same
     folks who did the 5-Star Premium series, and is every bit as well-
     organized and up-to-date as the 5-Star CD's were.  Are you tired of
     the old, poorly organized shareware CD sets?  You won't be
     disappointed with Shareware Explorer - we guarantee it!

     * Over 26,000 total files (1992/1993)
     * Less than 1% duplication between CD's.
     * 3 volumes are DOS, and 1 is Windows shareware (7000 files)
     * BBS-ready with PC-Board and FILES.BBS file listings.
     * EZ-Access menu program.

                    >> IN STOCK FOR IMMEDIATE DELIVERY! <<

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: DOUG SNELL                             Number: 4583
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 09/08/93  9:29a
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >What make BB #1 so valuable?

 > It has become somewhat of a collector's item since
 > it's content resulted
 > in a court case, and subsequent releases were "cleaned
 > up" of the
 > material in question.  Lee Noga can give you more
 > details if she sees
 > fit. <smile>

 >
 >  Jim...
Thanks. At a local computer show they had lots of copies of vol 1 but methinks
it probably was the cleaned up version.
Guess I'll have to take a close look at them next time.

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From: MARK ELSON                             Number: 4584
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/08/93  8:50p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes II                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> We've handled Lee's cd's so long, it would be a crime not to Mark!
->
-> As for price, until we get our first copy in hand, we'll hold off
-> posting prices as they change from one week to the next. But I can
-> assure you, it will be close.
->
-> Chat with you soon....watch for our post !

Boris,

Go ahead and send it to me COD.....The Address is below...but you should
have it....

The Blues Cafe
Mark Elson
280 World Trade Center
Dallas, Tx  75258

would like to get it as soon as possible.....

Thanks
Mark


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From: MARC KULAK                             Number: 4585
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/08/93  5:34p
Subj: CDs For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Bob!

Friday September 03 1993, Bob Jackson writes to All:

 BJ> SDN-1 Plus
 BJ> Mega Win/OS2
 BJ> Mega A/V
 BJ> Mega ROM 1
 BJ> Mega ROM 2

I am Interested in these Cds, Just I live in Canada.. How much for you to ship
to me?? And how do I pay etc.

        Marc

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From: MARC KULAK                             Number: 4586
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 09/08/93  5:39p
Subj: -=- Monthly Catalog -=-                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Michael!

Saturday September 04 1993, Ronald Leon writes to Michael Richard Hansen:

 RL> Michael Richard Hansen beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

 MR>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 MR>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 MR>> =-=   MONTHLY CATALOG OFFER   =-=
 MR>> =-= If you are interested in

I would like one..

My address is 290 Binns Ave,
              Newmarket, On
              L3X 1T6
              Canada

Marc

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4587
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/08/93  4:46p
Subj: Deal?                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

No package yet as of 9/8 per our arrangement. Problems??

... Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.
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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 4588
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 09/05/93  3:36p
Subj: Cd-roms                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> We've got some great deals on some '93 CD-ROMs... these are
-> Overstock Liquidations at, near, or below cost while current
-> INSTOCK quanitities last! They are:

->           ProPhone 1993 7-disc set      50    37

 Michellea,
       I am interested in this set,  do you ship COD, and if so
   what would be the total price to GA.  If so, I'll call you voice
   with the order...
                        Todd

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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 4589
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/08/93 11:50a
Subj: U.S. Mail                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Mike,

 > CD's and hardware, I would think that any pro/con discussion over the
 > shipping services we all depend on to receive said merchandise would be
 > not only relevant, but possibly of some value to the readers.

          Absolutely agreed.  Now WHERE is my order?  I placed an order with
Boris (crash mail), Doug (on the BBS) and you (NetMail).  So far Boris's order
has arrived, albiet slightly damaged but we're working on that, but nothing
from you or Doug!

Sideline:  I wouldn't personally trust UPS with ANYTHING!  Bad experiences but,
as you say, whatever turns you on.  My problem is that I live DEEP in the
countryside and they don't like to come out here as it's very expensive for
them (100Kms round trip).  What they try to do is simply put the package in the
SnailMail once it arrives in the country or ask me to collect it from their
office.  Now THAT's service?


                                                   Cheers,

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From: DANNY BRIGANCE                         Number: 4590
  To: DENNY VANDEMAELE                         Date: 09/08/93  6:36p
Subj: Bible CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Denny!

Monday September 06 1993, Denny Vandemaele writes to Danny Brigance:

 DV> Hello Danny,
 DV> I have the Bible Library, and although it has a lot of neat books and
 DV> works on it, it has a very hard to use interface to view those works.
 DV> Actually, I'll sell you mine if you like.

Ok, will you take $10.00 plus shipping.  Let me know.  Send me your number or
whatever so we can work out the details.

Danny

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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4591
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/08/93  7:20p
Subj: Exchange CD Received?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike, I sent a CD for exchange a week or so ago. Did you receive it?

- Heather
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From: RICHARD BUNTON                         Number: 4592
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/07/93  4:18p
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*******  Original Msg. From: Mike Shannon  To: Richard Bunton  *******
       
>>**** Richard Bunton.....
  *
  * Ronald, I just ordered this disc from Boris...I asked him 
  * specifically if this was an, "UPDATE", Since he used this word in 
  * his ad"...Or if it was the COMPLETE Encyclopedia...He told me it 
  * was the complete Encyclopedia. (Price 95.00 Dollars).
>>*****************************************************************************

>>**** Mike Shannon.....
  *
MS* The easy way to tell the upgrade version from the "retail" version 
MS* is the big "$149" price tag on the front of the box.  If yours has 
MS* this tag, it is the UPGRADE, not the full retail version which is 
MS* much more costly.
>>*****************************************************************************

Mike, Thank you for the reply...However, It still does not answer
my question to my saatisfattion.

Is the "Update", a "Complete Encyclopedia".???

If not...What is it.???  

It is beginning to sound more and more like a marketing ripoff to me.

I am already committed to buying it...I would just like to know what
I am getting. I have been told by two "sellers" of CD's that it is
a "COMPLETE" Encyclopedia. Were they lying....Or what.???

Again, Thanks a MEG for the reply.

If I don't get any satisfaction from the people I just ordered from...
(I don't want to mention any names because they seem to be trying),
You may be getting a call from me by the end of the week...!!!

*****         *****           
 **** ICHARD   **** UNTON    Pax...
** **         *****          

 * DeLuxe2/386 1.25 #3885 * The meaning of politics...."Poly" means "Many"...
                            "Tics" means "Blood Sucking Parasites"...Nuff
said!!
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From: BEN NATION                             Number: 4593
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/08/93  5:22p
Subj: Software Toolworks Encyclopedi          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FOR SALE:
1- Software Toolworks 21 Vol. Multimedia Encyclopedia (Windows) Version 1.5 $50
plus s&h, call 904-779-7994 ONLY as I don't read this echo regularly.
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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 4594
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/08/93  8:31a
Subj: <> CD-ROM TITLES & MORE <>              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry,  Just got a new 486DX/33 MOtherBoard and can't really afford it right
now,   but in a month I'll send for it.

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From: ERIC ESKAM                             Number: 4595
  To: KEVIN MCDERMOTT                          Date: 09/08/93  9:00p
Subj: The 7th Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KM> Would anyone be willing to sell their used copy of T7G for $30?
KM>(CompUSA's price is REALLY good, but I just don't have the money :)).
KM>           Kevin

Well, I don't know what part of the country you are in, but out west here (Las
Vegas, NV) there is a wherehouse store by the name of COSTCO - they have The
7th
Guest for $44, shrinkwrapped.

Eric
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From: BOB BARNARD                            Number: 4596
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/07/93 11:14p
Subj: Winword cd-rom wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Am interested in buying a CD-Rom with Word for Windows and the MS Bookshelf
programs.

Regards

Bob Barnard

nobull!bob@wpa.com

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 4597
  To: DAVID BURKE                              Date: 09/07/93  1:23p
Subj: GIVE ME A BREAK...                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>But the type of CDROM peddled most in this echo has
>sunk to levels considered vile and against the law in most states.
>...
>-=- God, created Adam & Eve not Adam & Steve...

Not true, but given your other comments, your bigoted Religeous
opinions mascarading as "morality" will NOT be missed.


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From: MIKE MUNNELLY                          Number: 4598
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 09/08/93  7:00p
Subj: Great Value & Service                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS>  
 MS>                6 Armstrong Bay * Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7 
 MS>                306-789-4654 Voice * 306-789-8690 Fax 
 MS>                     VISA/MC/MO/Cheque Accepted 
 MS>  
 MS>            New titles weekly! Call for current specials! 
 
Could you send me a catalog of your titles? 
 
My address is 
  
Box 21, Site B 
Verona, Ontario 
K0H 2W0 
  
Thanks 
  
Mike Munnelly 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4599
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/08/93  6:29p
Subj: Re: BBSCon                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-05-93 22:28> Doug Carpenter wrote:

DC>> You could speak about Oklahoma for sure since they just busted
DC>> Mid-America Digital Publishing (author of the Magnum CDS) for having
DC>> adult material on his BBS I believe it was.....will be interesting
DC>> since they are saying his rights were blatantly violated....

I spent 5 days out there with Tony and got to know him. A "shame" hardly begins
to describe the loss this man has sustained. 'Bout all I am comfortable
speaking about in this forum about this case.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: DAVID HEYDRICK                         Number: 4600
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/08/93  3:27p
Subj: CD for sale or trade                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Microsoft Office 3.0 for sale or trade, complete except for the
reg. card.

Asking $95

or trade for any three of:  Storm I, GBL, PC-Pix 2, Hot Pix 3,
                            Pier 2, Electronic Home Library,
                            Kings Quest VI, Ecstasy Hot Pics,
                            or Manpower.

... C**a**m**o**f**l***a**u**g**e*****T**a**g**l*i**n**e*
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From: MIKE COURINGTON                        Number: 4601
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/07/93  1:18p
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey, do you think you could send me a catalog or a price list for your CD's? 
My Address is 
         450 S. Scott St. 
         Adrian, MI 49221
I'd really like to take a larger look at what you've got to offer!
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From: MARTIN YEE                             Number: 4602
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 09/07/93 11:50p
Subj: Seventh guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MRH>GOT A COPY OF THE SEVENTH GUEST FOR TRADE. Hi Mike,
   I sent out StarControl 2 Fri. Sept 3 the day you called. You should
   have received it by now. I sent it USPS 2nd air. I was in a hurry to
   get the package out to you - (explains the funny shipping box). Hope
   to receive 7th Guest from you soon. Thanks!

Martin Yee ph: 415 923-9893 ps. my daughter saids Hi <G>. fyi. also
caught your message looking for Mantis on CDROM, there have been alot of
negative remarks on this game, from what I've read in the Game conferences.
But if you really interested, I've seen dealers in my area selling it for
around $23. bucks.

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From: KIRK REEVES                            Number: 4603
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/08/93 11:41p
Subj: <> CD-ROM TITLES & MORE <>              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DS> HI there, do you have 7th Guess, and how much is it?

 DC> That would be 7th Guest.  We have it in stock at $39.  
 DC> Call 615-339-0235 24 hours to order.


I am very interested in getting this. Please hold a copy 
for me.  I don't have a credit card so can you give me an 
address to ship payment.  Thank you.

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From: KIRK REEVES                            Number: 4604
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/08/93 11:43p
Subj: Adult Cd-rom Disk 4Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TS> old. It contains over
 TS> 600+ megs of ADult files. This Disk was Banned in 
 TS> Japan. I have used it
 DC>  
 DC> Storm III and all the other 80+ ADULT cd titles are 
 DC> banned in Japan.  They have strict customs regulations 
 DC> against pornography of any sort.  They even ban a lot 
 DC> of normal art pictures.


That is really surprising to me!  I an interested in Japanese
Anime and seen some of the adult material.  It goes a lot 
further in some areas than american material.  

Staying on the echo

I am interested in getting the CD-Rom Asian Ladies
Also if anybody knows of any CD-ROM that features
Orientals, or Animation of any kind, please let me know
and the cost of the disk and where to mail payment.

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From: BRYAN BENNETT                          Number: 4605
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/07/93  5:06p
Subj: wanted CD-ROm                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a new/good condition CD-ROM.  I am willing to purchase,
but would rather trade.  Call me for details of purchase/trade.
206-254-4625.


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From: REBEL                                  Number: 4606
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/09/93  4:45a
Subj: Mitsuma                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@ORIGIN :Southern Pride BBS 1:151/151                                N I have a
Internal Mitsuma CD-Rom player for sale its approx 8 months old All
manuals,card and drivers included in original box currently being used on the
BBS so if you are interested you can see it work. Asking 125.00 if interested
please reply here or send Netmail to Eddie at 1:151/151 Thanks Eddie Southern
Pride BBS.


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From: LEE WINSOR                             Number: 4607
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  2:38p
Subj: Shareware Explorer - CD-R               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@SUBJECT:Shareware Explorer - CD-ROM                                N

     S H A R E W A R E   E X P L O R E R  -  4   V O L U M E   S E T

                        1 September, 1993

    New Frontiers CD-ROMS, of New Hartford, CT announces the release of
    their new "Shareware Explorer" 4 disc Shareware Collection on
    CD-ROM.  This CD-ROM disc collection contains over 26,000 archived
    files and nearly 2.4 gigabytes of compressed shareware and public
    domain software for the Microsoft Windows, OS/2, and DOS
    environments.  Choose among thousands of utilities to improve the
    performance and productivity of your daily tasks.

    For the Windows enthusiast, one of the four discs has 7,000 Windows
    files including thousands of ICONS and wallpaper bitmaps; nearly
    1,200 fonts, including ATM, Postscript, and Truetype variations to
    add to your applications.  Almost 1000 games, amusements, and sound
    files are available for family leisure times.  Windows Word
    processing macros and add-ons; Communications programs and tools;
    Source code and tools for programming in Actor, C, Toolbook, Visual
    Basic, Turbo Pascal, and many others rounds out the vast selection
    in this Windows CD-ROM library.  PCBoard and files.bbs files are
    included for BBS operators.  All files are fully virus tested.

    For the DOS enthusiast, there are nearly 19,000 shareware files on
    the 3 DOS related CD-ROMS.  Organized into 70 different topical
    areas including:  Music, Business, Hobbies, Personal & Business
    Finance, Text & Word Processing, Ham Radio, Cooking, health &
    Fitness, Desktop Publishing, Database, Games, and thousands of other
    applications and Utilities.  Large collection of Source/Tools for C,
    BASIC, PASCAL, and others.  DOS Volume #1 is the best of 90/91 and
    has 8,500 files; DOS Volume #2 is all 1992 files and a few early 93;
    DOS Volume #3 is mostly 1993, with a few late 1992 additions to the
    collection.  No files in this collection are older than 1990.


    This four volume CD-ROM collection is designed for the serious DOS
    and Windows enthusiast as well as the novice user.  There are no GIF
    file, Unprotects, or Game cheats used to fill out space on our
    products.  We provide only carefully selected Business,
    Professional, and Technical files, along with a smattering of
    Personal Development and Family related files for your enjoyment.
    There are less than 1% duplicates or older versions of programs
    across all 4 CD-ROM volumes.

    An easy to use access program allows for easy viewing of our
    extensive encyclopedia of file descriptions.  Key words search
    capabilities improve your ability to quickly locate topics of
    interest.  Once a file description is located, the corresponding
    archive file can be easily viewed and the documentation read without
    leaving the current screen.  It may then be copied or unarchived
    into a temporary work space on your hard drive for later
    installation or testing.  Those of you who have fumbled with other
    CD-ROM access software will find this one as easy as 'ABC'.
    Included on the CD-ROM are pre-formatted print files in Alphabetic
    and Date sorted order, as well as our handy reference booklet which
    may be printed out and added to your own library.

     S H A R E W A R E   E X P L O R E R  -  4   V O L U M E   S E T

         The hottest selling CD-ROM at this years ONE BBSCON!

         John Dvorak, of PC magazine picked one up and said:

         "Wow, I've never seen a four pack CD-ROM like this
          before...  This is nice!"


    Available through your favorite CD-ROM dealer at competitive prices.

    Contact:  The MARKETplace 1-800-289-1ROM for dealer information.
                                        
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4608
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/08/93 11:57p
Subj: BBSCon                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>      It's faster to type the forbidden list:
LN>         a) All alabama, Phoenix AZ, North Florida, Atlanta GA
LN>            Various districts in IN, All Mississippi, All NC
LN>            Buffalo NY, All OK, Various cities in PA, Memphis TN
LN>            Dallas TX, All UT, All VA, Various districts in WI

Lee,

I missed the first part of this.  What is the significance of these
cities/regions?

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4609
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/08/93 11:58p
Subj: TOP 5 NEW CD'S                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #2:  TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES   |
         |________________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

>PHOENIX 4.0 * Finally - An update to 3! Very clean CD with fresh files.$28
 PRECISION MAPPING 1.5 * Newest release! Detailed street-level map......$79
>SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD * Totally new shareware w/ no dupes to Vault 2!....$29
 SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
 SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 * Brand new w/ pure 1993 files! The NEWEST s/w CD!.$37

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4610
  To: CHIP MORROW                              Date: 09/09/93  7:10a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Chip!

07 Sep 93, Chip Morrow writes to Pat Rickerson:


 PR>> Have 7th Guest for sale or trade, I'm looking for memory simms, or
 PR>> will sell for $40.OBO

 CM> I just happen to be looking for a copy of 7th Guest *WITH* the video
 CM> showing how it was made.  If this is what you have, I'm interested.

 CM>       Chip Morrow - voice 614-366-2296 evenings/weekends (Ohio)
 CM>                     netmail 1:226/1420


Yes it comes with the Viedo, the CD and everything in it is almost new all we
did was open the package, couldn't run the CD, tried to but CD player wasn't
fast enough, I really need to get a new CD player. So it's just about as new as
you can get one.

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4611
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 09/09/93  3:45p
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Steve!

04 Sep 93, Steve Greeno writes to All:

 SG> I AM LOOKING FOR THE FOLLOWING CD-ROM'S
 SG> 1.HOT PIX #1
 SG> 2.BUSTY BABES #1
 SG> 3.ADAM
 SG> IF YOU HAVE ANY OF THE ABOVE PLEASE FAX ME OR LEAVE MESSAGE.
 SG> THANK-YOU
 SG> FAX # 1-602-292-0497

Still waiting for your call, I still have BB#1. I'm in need of simms BAD,
you can reach me at 512-939-9822
Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4612
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 09/09/93  3:47p
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Steve!

03 Sep 93, Steve Greeno writes to Pat Rickerson:

 SG> PAT:  I OWN A COMPUTER STORE IN TUCSON AZ. AND WOULD LIKE TO TRADE ANY
ONE
 SG> ITEM THAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR IN TRADE FOR YOUR BB#1. IF INTERESTED YOU
CAN
 SG> LEAVE MESSAGE OR FAX ME AT 1-602-292-0497. THANKS.

Can't fax you, but I will try and get my husband to (I don't Know how), you
can reach me any time at 512-939-9822, waiting for your call
Pat

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From: RICK FISHER                            Number: 4613
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/08/93  9:43p
Subj: College/Scholarship CD                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for a cd that helps you select college.
Search gives info on colleges. Also, if there is
a scholarship one available. Thanks, Rick


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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 4614
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/09/93  8:49a
Subj: Re: REVIEW CD                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Yo, Ismail:
 
> If you sent me a CD for review, I haven't received it as of Sept. 8. Not
> complaining, just thought you'd want to know in case it's lost.  Don't
> want you thinking I didn't hold up my end (which, by the way, now
> requires both hands!).
Hi Bob,
I couldn't locate yor address. Can you fax it to 1-800-277-5179 attention to
me. TTYL
 
-= IA =- 

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 4615
  To: BILL ALEXANDER                           Date: 09/09/93  8:52a
Subj: Re: Elysian Archive /Amiga              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Ismail,
> When will it be available, and how much will it be? Hope that it will be
> reasonable!!
Hi Bill,
It will be very reasonable priced so every sysop can put it online for AMIGA
users. Within few days it will be ready. TTYL 

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 4616
  To: JOHN RUIZ                                Date: 09/09/93  8:56a
Subj: Re: Panasonic 562b                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> ISMAIL, My friend, I sent you a request via the multi-media conference
> last week about if you will be attending the Kent Computer swap meet on
> the 11th Sept 1993.  Will you have the Panasonic 562b CD-ROM available
> without the control card or with the control card at the show???  Next
> question what will be the price at the show for the 562b cd-rom drive??
> Thank You.....   John Ruiz
Hi John,
My employees will be there. They should take some there. I will be in Burnaby,
BC for another show. TTYL 

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From: BILL ALEXANDER                         Number: 4617
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 09/09/93  1:58p
Subj: Re: CDRoms for sale                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Eric,

They arrived today Thursday 9-9-93, I will pick them up at the post office
tomorrow and your money will be there probably by Tuesday 9-14-93. 

Thanks for the quick shipment!!!


Later dude!


Bill

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From: BILL ALEXANDER                         Number: 4618
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/09/93  2:01p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris,

Nope, the brown bag will not be nessecary...<grin> 

Later

Bill

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From: JEFF OLESEN                            Number: 4619
  To: SCOTT LACKEY                             Date: 09/09/93 11:18a
Subj: Sick                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SL>I really hope you're kiddin' cause I think porno is sick for
SL>UNMARRIED people, and I think any married person who would choke
SL>their chicken or shove their pudding during one should be shot.

For someone who hates porno, you sure have a way with stupid euphemisms. Just
call it masturbation and be done with it. Or just don't mention it at all....
===
 þ DeLuxeý/386 1.25 #7679 þ Scotty! New episode. Beam me a broad.


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From: CHIP MORROW                            Number: 4620
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/09/93  7:48p
Subj: El Cheapo CDROM's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Unloading some used CD's in preparation for 7th Guest:

Game Arena                    6.00
PC Game Room                  8.00
Natl Geo. Mammals            12.00
Hall of Fame (Shareware CD)   5.00
Sample THIS!                  2.50

...or take all five off my hands for $30.00 flat.  Prices include postage
anywhere here in the 48 states.

If you want any/all of these, send check or money order to:

      Chip Morrow
      40 Valley View Drive
      Newark, OH  43055

I will return your check via US Mail if what you want is already gone.
If you want to make sure I'm really a live individual <g>, I can be
reached evenings/weekends at 614-366-2296.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4621
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/09/93  4:25p
Subj: Re: CD's for Women                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Heather Krause to Bob Jackson <=-

 HK> Hmmm... I guess that would probably be varied by individual
 HK> (female) preference. Actually, I enjoy the ones I've seen, but
 HK> might put less emphasis on male climax (all over the place <g>). It
 HK> would be nice to have more shots of male *bodies*, and not just
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ fe-   ^^^^^^^^
I concur! I'm not a big fan of full-screen genital anatomy classes.

 HK> Interaction, penetration, etc. are good, but I'm not all that
 HK> choked up about "oddities" and pics of kinky stuff. Smallish BBS
 HK> ads are ok, but the ones that take up half the screen are a bummer.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Are you listening, producers?

 HK> And the long intro BBS ads in movie files are a real hassle (don't
 HK> like to wait through them, and feel cheated that so much of the
 HK> disk is taken up by something I have to watch over and over!). Even
 HK> worse are loud, attention-getting noises in movie files.

Well, I don't "do" movie CDs, but if I did, I think I'd complain about
this, too.

 HK> Would rather have fewer high-quality items on the disk than
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Amen!

 HK> stills and I enjoy the motion. Menu interface is nice, IF it works
 HK> properly (I had lots of trouble with CDMENU on Ecstacy Hot Pics,
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The trouble probably stemmed from VPIC, not CDMENU. Older versions of
VPIC didn't work well with some of the newer video chips. Try an
upgraded version, or switch viewers - CDMENU doesn't depend on VPIC.
However, returning back to CDMENU from some other viewers can require
several keystrokes (e.g. ESC-ESC-ESC)

 HK> So.... Any recommendations for what's available currently, based
 HK> on the above? Prices? Dealers?  If you care to discuss/review
                           ^^^^^^^^
Several good ones (dealers) are in this echo; they'll probably
reply to his note as well.  As for recommendations from the current crop
of CDs, meeting your specs is gonna be hard (no pun intended).  Being
hetero, I haven't seen GBL or Hot Hunks so can't say much about
either of them. What few "mini-collections" of male GIFs I've seen that
were on other CDs wouldn't meet your specs either - too many poor scans.
However, either Pork-Ware II or T&A 2 the Maxx might provide
some interest for you.  You should understand that both of these CDs
only has about 250 male GIFs each so on a $/GIF basis, they're not a
good bargain.  (Actually, they're not much of a bargain on any basis
IMHO (:> ).  T&A 2 the Maxx can be had from it's publishers (Profit
Publishing) for $12.95 and Pork-Ware II is available for about $35, both
plus shipping.

Sorry I couldn't be more help.

... I'd rather ride the Wave than wallow in QWKsand!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4622
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/09/93  4:41p
Subj: Re: Adult Cd For Trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Heather Krause to Nino Fagan <=-
 HK> Maybe we can get a discussion of the topic going in the (non-sale)
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
If you're going to do this, you'd best stay here (for sale echo).  The
"information" echo no longer permits discussion of adult CDs.

... Spaceballs: The Tagline
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4623
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/09/93  4:42p
Subj: Re: Adult Cd For Trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Heather Krause to Doug Carpenter <=-
 HK> one... hadn't heard about it before. I just ordered 2 others, but
                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Which ones? I like to keep up on what's available, even if I'm not
personally interested in it.

... A feature is a bug with seniority.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4624
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/09/93  4:55p
Subj: Your check...                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

was rec'd today (Thursday 9/9). Package will go out tomorrow.

... RAM = Rarely Adequate Memory
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4625
  To: CARL SLAWINSKI                           Date: 09/09/93  4:58p
Subj: Adult CDs for Trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CS> Super Smutware                                                    
                                                                       
  
Never heard of this one. Where'd you get it? 
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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 4626
  To: NATE LAWSON                              Date: 09/07/93  1:50p
Subj: Tentacle                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> How about $20 for the tentacle game?

Sorry, too low :)  , it's still selling for 50+ in the stores...

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From: DWAYNE COFFELT                         Number: 4627
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/08/93  5:46p
Subj: Mitsumi Ok For Games ?                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Question for anyone who has tried this:
Is the Mitsumi CD Rom fast enough to run CDrom games without poor 
quality or is this a lost cause ?  The machine in question is a 386-25.
Any reports of results with specific disks appreciated.
___
 X RM 1.2 00799 X backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic

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From: TED KIDD                               Number: 4628
  To: JOANNINE GESUALDO                        Date: 09/08/93  1:31p
Subj: Pressing A Master                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JG>        I am looking for someone to press a Cd-Rom Disk Master of a 
JG> New AdultCd-rom I am creating. I can supply the files & guarnntee 
JG> that none of the 
JG> material is copyrighted. Everything is orginal. 
JG>        Let me know via this echo or at Fido 1:290/13 if you know who 
JG> couldpress the master for me & how much it would cost!

Well, if you are really gonna be in the CD business hot and heavy, you may want
to get a CD Recorder.  They are around $4000-$6000 depending on where you get
them.  There is one made by Pinnacle and one made by Philips.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4629
  To: RICHARD BUNTON                           Date: 09/10/93 12:38a
Subj: Re: Lost Discs...???                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Boris, I thought I would let you know here, rather then calling
>>    your 800 number...(every little bit counts...).

>>    I have never recieved the original order I placed with you...

>>    I told you I would call if it had not come by saturday.

Thanks for the responce, we'll check into it.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't Read Mail Without it!
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From: BRIAN MILLER                           Number: 4630
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/09/93  5:25a
Subj: Walnut Creek Releases                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> -> We now have Giga Games in stock!..
->
->  BM> How much for this cd?
-> We have it in stock for $19.95. 615-339-0235 to order.

Doug,  are you still offering this CD for $19.95?  If so I will take
one,  please leave your 1-800 number.  Thank you....


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From: RALPH MOWERY                           Number: 4631
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/07/93  4:55p
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>TT>Yep and Mike hasn't replied yet......   Screw the BBB, I'm going to the
MS>TT>President!!!  I ought to get something for my tax increase :{)

MS>Tyrone,
(grin)   <grin>

MS>I DID reply to you in a fairly lengthy message.  If you did not receive it,
MS>give me a call @ 509-457-2892.


MS>---
MS> * SLMR 2.1a * Odo, is there any more jello in the fridge?  Odo?  Odo??

MS>--- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 4632
  To: KAREL VITAMVAS                           Date: 09/09/93  9:15p
Subj: ProPhones 1993                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

No it is not limited like American Business Systems.  WE market it, and chose
it because it was one of the better "values" we could find for the price-point.
 There is 7 discs in all.  One is dedicated to Business Listings (7 million +).
 The other 6 are the residential "plus" the business listings, broken out into
6 geographical areas.
The positive side is:  the price, the download-ability, and the "sort-ability".
 The negative side is: it's not as up-to-date as it's $6700 competitor from
ABS.  My guess is that it is about 6-12 months back in accuracy.  For our
business needs, that's close enough.
It's not the solution for all businesses; but I think it meets the needs for
the majority of them.  Especially for the price.
(Now for the commercial:  Our current price on the Mid-Year Edition, 1993 is
$249., including any tax, shipping, frt, etc.)
Richard Carter
ComputerHelp
PO Box 385041
Bloomington, MN  55438-0041
(612) 890-4750 or (800) 514-7071
-----You might talk me down to $199. if you don't dilly-dally....)

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From: GARY KORPAN                            Number: 4633
  To: DOUG JONES                               Date: 09/09/93  8:05a
Subj: Computer Show/Swap Meet                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Doug, this Saturday's computer show/swap meet is in Richmond BC (a suburb just
south of Vancouver) It is usually at the MacPherson Centre auditorium. Sorry
don't know the address.

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From: GARY KORPAN                            Number: 4634
  To: DOUG JONES                               Date: 09/10/93 12:06a
Subj: Computer Show/Swap Meet                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
Correction, I'm told the swap meet is in Burnaby (a different suburb).
At McPherson Centre, 7325 McPherson Avenue. 
Sorry about the earlier mis-direction.  Good luck
 

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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 4635
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/09/93  9:01p
Subj: Cd Titles for Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have one each of the following CD titles available at the price stated: 
 
$ 8.00     World Traveler Vol. 1      $ 8.00     July 1993 Nautilus 
$10.00     Black Box 4                $10.00     U. S. Atlas 
$12.00     PC-SIG Vol. 10             $12.00     Toolbook Eval. Ed. 
$12.00     Pediatrics Medline         $12.00     Family Med. Medline 
$14.00     Pixel Perfect Graphics     $14.00     Disc to the Future II 
$16.00     Multimedia Pack 1.0        $16.00     Britannica Family Choice 
$18.00     Adv. of Willy Beamish      $18.00     Women of Venus (Swimsuit) 
$40.00     1992 Software Toolworks (GROLIER) MPC Encyclopedia Ver. 1.5 
 
Shipping $2.00 1st item, $1.00 2nd item, $.50 each item after the second. 
U.S. only. NO C.O.D.. Money order gets 1 day turn around. A check gets a 
week hold. All orders responded to by letter with status of order, refund, 
etc.. 
 
Send orders to: 


Paul F. Swider             Phone: (Between 8 AM and 8 PM PDST) 
509 Digger St.                           702-877-4907 
Las Vegas, Nv. 
89107 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50  "What if there were no hypothetical situations?" 

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From: JASON SAUVE                            Number: 4636
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/09/93  8:12p
Subj: CD's 4 Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
CD-ROM COMMERCIAL SOFTWARE:
Title                                    Disk Sizes  Gfx    Price (CDN)
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
CorelDraw 3.0 For Windows                *CD-ROM*    SVGA      $150
  SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
    -  IBM compatible 386s, 486s, and PS/2s
       286s require Windows in protected mode with minimum 4 megs RAM
    -  Windows 3.1 required for True Type fonts
    -  Windows 3.0 font support provided by Adobe Type Manager (not included)
    -  Hard Drive
    -  VGA Windows supported monitor
    -  Mouse or tablet
  INCLUDES
    -  CorelDRAW                -  CorelPHOTO-PAINT
    -  CorelCHART               -  CorelSHOW
    -  CorelMOSAIC              -  CorelTRACE
  CONDITION
    -  Includes everything except the registration card
 
 
European Racers                          *CD-ROM*    SVGA      $ 55
  CONDITION
    -  Includes ALL ORIGINAL documents including registration card
    -  Includes model (Porsche 911 slant nose) in it's original package
       Model requires assembly
    -  Used ONLY twice
  PC SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
    -  386 SX or greater                  -  4 MB RAM or greater
    -  SVGA graphics                      -  CD-ROM drive
    -  DOS 5.0 or greater                 -  Soundblaster card
    -  Speakers or headphones             -  Mouse (joystick optional)
    -  13 MB Hard Drive
  DESCRIPTION
    -  State-of-the-art, interactive 3-D instructions for building your own
       Porsche, Bugatti, Lamborghini and Nazca models - four of Europe's
       hottest racing machines!
    -  The plastic modem kit for the super hot, super fast Porsche 911 slant
       nose.
    -  High-tech, motion picture video tips that show you how to paint, glue
       and finish your model like a pro.
    -  Building your car is only half the fun - climb behind the wheel and
       enter an action-packed, 3D driving simulation game guarenteed to keep
       you on the edge of your seat every time you play.
    -  Experience the real life, high-speed handling of each super-charged car
       and the incredible realism of 3-D graphics.
    -  Test your stuff against on-screen competitors on four European roads &
       race tracks.
    -  But, watch out for speed traps! The police are waiting to catch you on
       your way to the track.
    -  Cruise over the track-even over buildings - with European Racers copter
       cam.
    -  Throughout the game, listen, learn or receive your punishment from the
       motion picture video policeman, gas station attendant, sportscaster,
       pit crew attendant, custodian, and beauty queen.
    -  Got a feel for the car? How improve your performance by customizing
       your race car to match the randomly changing weather, the track layout,
       and the competition.
 
 
 ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
 ³ --  100% of all software contains original box, disks, manuals & other   ³
 ³     documents unless stated otherwise.                                   ³
 ³ --  100% of the executable programs are NOT DEFECTIVE.                   ³
 ³ --  NO guarentees/refunds under any circumstances.                       ³
 ³                                                                          ³
 ³ All Prices include sales taxes.                                          ³
 ³ S & H Approx. $5 in CAN / $7 out of CAN not included in the above prices.³
 ³ Money orders and cheques are accepted.                                   ³
 ³ Cheques will take approx 3 days longer to process and clear.             ³
 ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ
 
*****************************************************************************
 
For more information, if you are interested in purchasing a product leave
me mail via any board in 519 area code on any of the "For Sale" nets
specifically in the Windsor / Essex County districts with your phone number
included to Jason Sauve, or contact me at (519) 978-3553 ...

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From: BRYAN BENNETT                          Number: 4637
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/09/93 12:11a
Subj: Wanted CD-ROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like to get my hands on a new/good condition CD-ROM.  Prefer 
to trade for it, but am willing to purchase if necessary. 
206-254-4625.
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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 4638
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/28/93  1:18a
Subj: Day of Tentacle 4/sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Day of the Tentacle for sale      35 dollars
Space Quest IV                    20 dollars

Both 50 + shipping

ken 412 793 9152

... Glad To Be Here..
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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 4639
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/09/93  9:16p
Subj: PHONE CDS                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> If I needed to find the address/phone of all businesses in a
-> particular area code, would one on those phone set/thing CDs do the
-> job? Recommendations?

Bob, prophone will not let you do this. You have to specify a SIC 
(standard industry code) of some sort. You can pipe several codes 
together to do a search but since there are literally thousands of 
codes, searching for more than a handful at a time would not be 
acceptable.

James

You could find all the grocery stores in a given area code quite easily.

You should be aware that this set is not very complete or up to date. 
If you need a comprehensive listing you will still have to use an 
outside listing service. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4640
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 09/10/93  7:12a
Subj: Re: REVIEW CD                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

OK. Thanks. 
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 4641
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/09/93  5:24p
Subj: ADULT CD FOR TRADE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> HK>     Maybe one of these days someone will come out HK> with a good
-> CD full of HK>     adult material for us ladies. And hopefully HK>
-> it'll be husband-proof. HK>     I'd hate for hubby to realize that
-> I'm enjoying such things!  ;-)
-> HK>     Just to keep this on track as a "For Sale" message... Does
-> anyone HK>     know of an adult CD which is slanted toward females?
-> Title and HK>     price, dealers?
-> Hot Hunks......$38.95....xxx-xxx-xxxx 24 hours to order.

Hi Heather -

    This is a disc more oriented to gays than women, but still lots of
pics to interest the hetero-female. We've got it for $25US/$35Cdn.

    Vince

    CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA
    306-789-4654
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4642
  To: JASON SCHWARTZ                           Date: 09/09/93  8:28p
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I'm interested in Nightowl 9 and/or Shareware Studio II -- could you
-> please give me more detailed info on what they both contain? THANKS A
-> LOT!!!
Hi Jason!
   Both are great shareware discs, with Nightowl 9 being the most
recent. There's no duplication between them, but you may want to get
Shareware Studio III instead - its newer than both, and one of the best
put-together discs out there.
   Give us a call about which ones you want!

   .\\ichellea
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4643
  To: MARC KULAK                               Date: 09/09/93 10:58p
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
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-> Tuesday August 31 1993, Michellea Sorensen writes to All:
->
-> MS>                                         Cdn$   US$ MS>
-> Night Owl 9                   35    26
-> MS>      Shareware Studio I Free with purchase of Night Owl 9
-> How would you get this to me?? I am in Canada, Do you do a C.O.D?? Or
-> a Visa/MasterCard over the phone?  What about shipping?? Etc.

Hi Marc!

    We can ship it to you however you like! We normally go with Canada
Post, and the shipping/handling charge is exactly the cost of the
envelope+postage. We take VISA or Mastercard - your choice... just give
me a call at 306-789-4654, and we'll make you happy.

    .\\ichellea
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4644
  To: KAREL VITAMVAS                           Date: 09/09/93 11:04p
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
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-> MS>             ProPhone 1993 7-disc set      50    37
-> Can you give me more info on the ProPhone 1993 7-disc set at $50Cad.
Hi Karel!

   We've sold out of our current stock for $50 - just sent the last one
off to Florida a couple of days back! Its a set of discs with phone
numbers, addresses, SIC codes, etc. for all areas of the U.S. There
aren't any Canadian numbers I'm afraid. If you're interested, we can
order one in for you, but it would be at the regular price.
You can also get a copy from Mike Shannon - I believe he has
them in stock.

    .\\ichellea
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4645
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/10/93 12:30a
Subj: NEW CD-ROM TITLES GALORE                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC> MS>  FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-

DC>Mike, I'll take one of those COD if you would.  I'm going to get into
selling
DC>firearms shortly and it would come in handy.

Nah, I'll just invoice you and you can send a check when you get it. I
doubt that you'll stiff me with all the Fidonuts watching. <g>  Somehow
though, I know I'll probably see these in your ads for a nickel less than
my price!  8)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4646
  To: CARL SCHULTZ                             Date: 09/10/93 12:30a
Subj: 7th guest only $39!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS>Hi would you be wiling to sell me a special price on The 7th guest and Kings
CS>Quest 6 Cd if I bought them at th same time both from you? leave email or
cal

How does $78 sound for a package deal?  Let me know if you're interested.
We can ship same day.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4647
  To: BRYNE BOTTOMS                            Date: 09/10/93 12:30a
Subj: Canadian sales                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>>>    I got my Adult CD's from the U.S yesterday with no problem at
BO>>>    all and also no customs fees were added either.

Glad to see they got there OK Bryne.  Like I said before, most of the
potential problems with customs can be avoided by proper packaging and
labeling.  Call us if you need anything else!

Cheers,

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4648
  To: CHIP MORROW                              Date: 09/10/93 12:30a
Subj: 7th Guest w/video wanted                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CM>So far I have seen Mike Shannon offering new copies of this CD *WITHOUT*
CM>video for $39 in this echo, but have seen very little else advertised
CM>here lately that doesn't say simply "7th Guest".

Chip,

The video isn't that great anyway.  Lots of poorly lit shots with goofy
looking programmers.  I eventually used mine in my camcorder.   8)

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4649
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/10/93 12:30a
Subj: ALL-NEW CD TITLES!!!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #1:  NEW CD ARRIVALS   |
           |____________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

 5-STAR PREMIUM WINDOWS * Latest Windows shareware + 950 OS2 files!.....$27
 AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK 93/94 * New release. 11,000,000 businesses.$39
 ARIZONA IMAGES * Fabulous photos of the Arizona desert country.........$30
 CANADIAN SHAREWARE * 6500+ shareware programs ready to run from the CD.$22
 COLOR MAGIC CLIPART * 600 megs. of 3-D color clipart.  Royalty-free....$27
>DINOSAURS! * Fabulous interactive, multimedia Dinosaur directory on CD.$48
>DR. MUSIC * Brand new offering loaded with sound and music files.......$20
>DR. GAMES * Hours upon hours of gameplaying mayhem! BBS-Ready..........$20
>DR. SHAREWARE * Just another shareware CD? No - this one's excellent!..$20
>DR. WINDOWS * Games, utilities, productivity, business, it's all here..$20
 FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$30
 GAMEWARE COLLECTION * Over 6000 of the all time best games! BBS-ready..$24
 GIGA GAMES * Brand new from Walnut Creek. Set up for 6 popular BBS's...$26
 HAMWARE 93 * The Ham's #1 source for Ham software......................$28
 KING'S QUEST VI * Newest in the KQ series. Better than 7th Guest!......$47
>MICROSOFT BOOKSHELF 1993 * The latest CD-ROM reference library.........$58
 MICROSOFT GOLF * Multimedia Golf game that is "on par with reality"....$58
 PHOENIX 4.0 * Finally - An update to 3! Very clean CD with fresh files.$28
 PHONEDISC USA * Summer '93 edition w/ 80 million residential listings..$69
 PINACOTHECA M/M * Multimedia presentation of classical paintings.......$24
 PRECISION MAPPING 1.5 * Newest release! Detailed street-level map......$79
 REEL CLIPS * 600mb of royalty-free digital video clips.................$44
 SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
 SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 * Brand new w/ pure 1993 files! The NEWEST s/w CD!.$37
 SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD * Totally new shareware w/ no dupes to Vault 2!....$29

                    Adult Titles (must state age 21+)
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 AMATEUR MODELS * All original images of young models. BBS-ready........$35
 BUSTY BABES 3.0 * Newest release of top-selling disc. BBS-ready........$25
 DEEP THROAT * CD version of the famous adult flick. Truly a must-see!..$59
>DIGITAL DANCING * Interactive adult "game". Watch her strip for you!...$48
 DIRTY TALK * Full-color, full-motion video w/ adult film stars.........$59
 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2 * Sequel to release 1 with fresh, new images.......$36
 KAMA SUTRA * Indian documentary adult film w/ narration................$59
 LUSCIOUS LADIES * Hot new adult .GIF CD with outstanding cover art.....$37
 MYSTIQUE OF THE ORIENT * 600mb movie featuring Oriental beauties.......$59
 PHONE SEX * Actual .WAV file recordings of 900-number conversations....$27
 SEYMORE BUTTS INTERACTIVE * Fantastic new "interactive" adult film.....$49
 TOTAL FANTASY * Newly released .GIF disc from Denmark..................$33

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4650
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/10/93 12:30a
Subj: SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD: $29!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |  Title:  SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD  |  |   Price:  $29   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

     You all know about the quality and integrity of Software Vault
     2.  Well get ready because it's successor has arrived!  Introducing
     Software Vault GOLD, an all new, all-1993 shareware CD with many
     new and exciting features . . . . .

     * Over 50 categories to choose from
     * Separate directories for Windows/Windows NT applications
     * The Librarian (tm) user interface with DOS and Windows versions
     * ROMDOOR utility built in for easy BBS setup
     * Fully BBS-ready
     * BEST color cover on the market! (great for shows or store display)
     * 593 megabytes
     * 6148 files

   2-CD SET:  Software Vault Gold + Software Vault 2...(NO dupes!)....$44
   3-CD SET:  Add Software Vault 1...............(still NO dupes!)....$57

                >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: WES HARDIN                             Number: 4651
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/09/93  7:50p
Subj: NEC MULTISPIN - 280MS EXT               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the above.
 
A NEC Multispin (150kb for audio, 300kb data) in box with the SCSI interface
card and cord. This has a 280ms avg. seek time & is the exteral model.

Looking for the best offer. Please respond here with offers.

I may trade for something too, just offer!

Wes Hardin


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From: HANK PETERSON                          Number: 4652
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/10/93 10:53a
Subj: Re: BBSCon                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (08 Sep 93) Lee Noga wrote to Doug Carpenter...

 LN> I spent 5 days out there with Tony and got to know him. A "shame"
 LN> hardly begins to describe the loss this man has sustained. 'Bout all I
 LN> am comfortable speaking about in this forum about this case.

    Have you heard about the seizure of Steve Jacksons BBS Illiminati
    Bulletin Board.  The United States Secret Service seized his stuff
    and now is very very sorry it did. Federal Circuit Court just awarded
    Jackson $50,000 spending money, hundreds of thousands in legal
    expenses and each person who was on his board at the time it was
    seized will get a $1000. Court said it was a violation of the 
    Freedom of Imformation Act of 1980/86 and the Electronic Privacy
    Act.  You might want to check this out for yourself. 

... Don't disturb a sleeping dog

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 4653
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 09/10/93 12:50p
Subj: BBSCon                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DR> BJ> I can understand this, but isn't it a pity we have to be afraid of our
DR> BJ> own Government?  "Big Brother" *IS* listening!

DR>If you're not engaging in any illegal activity, you have
DR>nothing to worry about.  ;-)

For a moment I thought you were serious.  Then I saw the smiley.

Gosh, these political echos are fun reading.

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From: NINO FAGAN                             Number: 4654
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/08/93  3:21a
Subj: Re: TOSHIBA CDROM SPECIAL               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   Boris Osadciw wrote  
ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͸
ù>The Toshiba, like so many other cdroms today use the standard sony
ù>caddies.
ù>Our current price is $4.25ec up to 10 and $4.15 for 10 or more.
ù>If this is of interest to you, please feel free to contact us at
ù>216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to assist you further. 
ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ;

Drats! I just bought two of them for $4.90. :(  But now that the
prices of the CDRoms are reasonable I'm sure I'll need more and
will definately keep yours in mind.  (Remember when you couldn't
get ANY CDRom for less than $300?)

As an aside, you really didn't have to quote the whole message,
your answer would be enough to jog the memory.

Regards, 
Nino
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From: CARL SLAWINSKI                         Number: 4655
  To: LEE WINSOR                               Date: 09/10/93  9:21p
Subj: Re: Shareware Explorer - CD-R           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ahoy Lee!

On <Thursday September 02 1993>, Lee Winsor was mumbling to All:

 LW>          The hottest selling CD-ROM at this years ONE BBSCON!

Do you base this on the fact that you only had about 8-10 titles to choose
from. <grin>


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From: CARL SLAWINSKI                         Number: 4656
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/10/93  9:24p
Subj: Re: Adult CDs for Trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ahoy Bob!

On <Thursday September 09 1993>, Bob Jackson was mumbling to Carl Slawinski:

 BJ> Never heard of this one. Where'd you get it?

ONE BBSCON

Published by the guy I bought it from. Chicago something or other.

Says on the CD that it is Vol II of Smutware and Scans are courtesy of Corp.
Graphics.

660 MB Super VGA Only 1024x768.


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 4657
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 09/10/93  3:26p
Subj: CDRoms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CDRoms for sale:

  ShareWare Heaven 1993              $27.00  600+ Megs of MSDOS/Win
  Hobbes OS/2  June 1993             $15.00  640+ Megs of OS/2
  Project Gutenberg  July 1993       $22.00  Tons of classic lit/history
  Source  March 1992                 $22.00  Tons of C code
  Garbo May 1992                     $15.00  600+ Megs of MSDOS/MAC
  Simtel MSDOS May 1993              $15.00  630+ Megs MSDOS
  Aminet June 1993                   $15.00  Hundreds of megs of Amiga
  CICA Windows Aug. 1993             $15.00  630+ Megs of Windows stuff
Postage and Insurance is $5.00 per order, 2nd day priority shipping.
I will ship COD.  Add $5.00 per order for COD charges.

Send checks/money orders to, and/or feel free to contact:

Eric Bravick
USF 3008
4202 E. Fowler Ave.
Tampa, FL. 33620-3008

(813) 979-1323 (Voice)
(813) 977-5212 (BBS)
Netmail 1:377/53.0


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 4658
  To: BILL ALEXANDER                           Date: 09/10/93  7:48p
Subj: Re: CDRoms for sale                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> They arrived today Thursday 9-9-93, I will pick them up at the post
>> office tomorrow and your money will be there probably by Tuesday 9-14-93.

    We can hope, the last COD CDRom shipment I sent was a disaster.  The
post office got me the person's check 36 days after shipment.  Quick turn
over, eh?  They aren't suppose to take checks, either.

>> Thanks for the quick shipment!!!

    No problem, I try to ship CODs same day.

Eric


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From: CHIP MORROW                            Number: 4659
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/10/93  5:36p
Subj: El Cheapo CD disks gone                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FYI - The five el cheapo CDROM disks that I advertised yesterday
(Hall of Fame, two game CD's, a sampler, and Natl. Geo. Mammals)
were all sold here locally about 10 minutes ago.  Thanks.


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From: BILL JONES                             Number: 4660
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/11/93 10:44a
Subj: FOR SALE                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I have the following CD's that are no longer needed.
 
 Shareware Overload
 Shareware Gold II
 RBBS Shareware
 Canadian Shareware
 5-Star Premium Windows Collection
 Swimware 93
 
 I'm asking $15.00 plus $3.00 shipping for each, if anyone
 takes all six they can go for a total of $75.00 including shipping.
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From: PETER RALLIS                           Number: 4661
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/09/93 10:48a
Subj: CDs For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 03 Sep 93  13:35:00 Bob Jackson graced us with these words of wisdom:

 BJ> I'm clearing out my shareware and misc. CD collection.  All CDs
 BJ> listed are in like-new condition and are priced at $5.00 each. Please
 BJ> add $3.00 postage PER ORDER.  Post here or call (713) 488-0065 to
 BJ> reserve or confirm availability. Will consider trades for adult CDs.
 BJ> 
 BJ> Encyclopedia of ClipArt
 BJ> Colossal Cookbook       Cookbook Heaven
 BJ> Ham Radio
 BJ> Mega Win/OS2

I'll take any of the above that are still available.  If you have a fax 
my fax number is 719 573-2630 otherwise leave details here.

Thanks,

peter...
 

... "I think not" said Descartes, and promptly disappeared.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 4662
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 09/09/93 12:41p
Subj: MITSUMI                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Bruce, I overheard you reply to someone that the mitsumi is compatible with
>sound galaxy.

One specific version of the Sound Galaxy - more data available in the CDROM
echo, I don't have one myself I'm just going by reports.


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 4663
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/09/93  2:27p
Subj: BBSCON                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> LN> As you know I sat on the panel for "Adult Images", and if your in one
> LN> of those States I mentioned,
>        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Are there others besides Oklahoma, Florida, Alabama, and Utah?

I suspect that Indiana should be on the list, but our "obscenity" laws here are
so VAGUE that they could almost get you for having a copy of "Whisler's Mother"
in a .GIF for download....


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From: JON FURNEAUX                           Number: 4664
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/08/93 10:51a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Liquidation                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

 MS> ________________________________________________________
 MS> |                                                        |
 MS> |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #4:  CD-ROM LIQUIDATION!   |
 MS> |________________________________________________________|
 MS> 
 MS> All sales are final - Sale limited to stock on hand!
 MS> 
 MS> Game Pack 2.........$22 Canadian Shareware..$19   MAC
 MS> Shareware.......$22   Jedi Collection.....$39 Original S/W 1993...$10  
 MS> Conan the Cimmerian.$27   Reel Clips..........$35 Kodak Photo
 MS> CD......$18   Phoenix 3.0.........$12   Ham Radio 3.0.......$10 Lion's
 MS> Share........$20   Clipart Galore......$25   Window Master.......$17
 MS> Windoware...........$10   Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$22   Great
 MS> Wonders.......$32 Top 2000 Shareware..$18   Software Vault 1....$17  
 MS> Return to the Moon..$26 
 MS> 600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY
 MS> PURCHASE!! 


What type of shareware is on the "Canadian Shareware", "Original S/W 1993", 
"Top 2000 Shareware", and "Software Vault 1" and the date ranges of the
files on each? ie. 1992-1993 or 1993 only etc..

Thanks... also what are the prices on these in canadian fund with shipping
and etc..?

Jon Furneaux


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From: GLENN CAREY                            Number: 4665
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/10/93  8:53a
Subj: Re: canadian sales                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  *In a message dated 08 Sep 93  02:48:05 Boris Osadciw writes:

BO> You'll be even more please when you see our BRAND NEW CATALOG ! To
BO> put it
BO> lightly....it's AWSOME and so are the savings and FREE BEES !!
BO>
BO> Watch your mail box soon....if you don't get yours soon, drop us a
BO> note
BO> and YELL for a copy or you'll miss out on a lot of specials.
BO>
BO> Chat with you soon.....
BO>
BO> Boris Osadciw

Yo Boris are you gonna send one out to everyone who bought a cdrom from you
I hope so cause I will be looking forward to getting it


*FSED91j*
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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 4666
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/05/93  1:12a
Subj: BUSTY BABES II PREORDERS!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

 MS> BUSTY BABES II * Over 1000 new and original hi-rez scans + Showoff

How does this one compare to BB III?  Any celeb photos???


Steve
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From: STEVE BERRY                            Number: 4667
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/07/93  8:43p
Subj: Re: Wondering...                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC>  SB> What is the BEST Files.BBS Formated BBS CD rom out 
DC>  SB> at this time? for use on 
DC>  SB> ANY bbs to be a little more critical?
DC> 
DC> Nightowl 9 has a Files.BBS in each subdirectory.  We have it in stock at
DC> $25....call 615-339-0235 24 hours to order.


Woah, .. Thanks! Ill keep that number in mind. 

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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 4668
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 09/09/93  1:16p
Subj: -=- Monthly Catalog -=-                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RL> Michael Richard Hansen beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

 MR>  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 MR>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 MR>  =-=   MONTHLY CATALOG OFFER   =-=
 MR>  =-= If you are interested in

I'd like a catalog. Send to me at:




... Steve Gerweck, 530 Concetta Drive, Monroe, MI 48161-3542
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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 4669
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/09/93  1:18p
Subj: Busty 2.0 Preorders                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Doug Carpenter to All <=-

 DC> * *  B U S T Y  B A B E S  * *  RELEASE 2.0  * * IS BACK!! * *
 DC> Will be re-released in September.  We are taking pre-orders.
 DC> The Price - $27.95.  We will meet any price on it.

Any celeb photos on this release?


Steve
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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 4670
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/09/93  2:28p
Subj: CD CADDIES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to John Pimentel <=-

 MS> We carry the higher quality Japanese-made caddies at prices ranging
 MS> from $4.99 to $4.39.  Here is the quantity breakdown:

Do you have any made in the USA?


Steve
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4671
  To: CARL SLAWINSKI                           Date: 09/10/93 10:31a
Subj: Re: Adult CDs for Trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <09-07-93 13:52> Carl Slawinski wrote:

CS>> Have the following Adult titles that I would like to trade for
CS>> something more tame.

CS>> Busty Babes #1 Release 3.0

Just a note, Busty Babes Vol II (1 Oct release), is more along the lines of
what your looking for--It has less then 100 slides of the XXX, and 900 of
images of California girls (no top, no bottom, wet t-shirt, nudity, swimsuit,
teasers in skimpy clothing, hotbuns)....big busted women etc.

Plus 200 MB of 1993 shareware to boot !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4672
  To: CARL SLAWINSKI                           Date: 09/10/93 10:35a
Subj: Re: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Mike Shannon <09-07-93 13:50> Carl Slawinski wrote:

CS>> I'm looking for something to put on the BBS that won't get me in
CS>> trouble for obscenity/indecency. Is this really 93 and are the images
CS>> copyright infringement free?

BB II is 1000 images licensed to us by the photographer who gave us permission
to allow the sysops to put it online--These slides are copyright worry free,
and the women are gorgeous--As a sysop, I have removed the previous CD's and
will have this one online for the very same concerns you express--As I
mentioned on the panel at BBScon, this publishing house is the sysops
solution-- Trust me !

You will swear these images came from magazines ! NOT ! We got them from the
photographers that shoot for the major mags though :)

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: CATALINO ALVAREZ                       Number: 4673
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/10/93  6:26p
Subj: CD--Buying                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking to see if anyone can give me a better deal out there.
I will be purchasing a Edutainment-16 Cd ROM.  Comes with SB 16 and approx.
five diffrent titles.  CD runs at 320ms with a 300kb transfer rate and holds,
I believe 640Kb.  Of course it comes with the shielded pair of speekers,
which I don't need at all.
This bundle pack will run me $549.99.

I'm looking to see if anyone can give me a better deal.  All I really need is
a CD with those specs and the SB 16 with only Compts Ency. and 7th Guest.
I DO NOT need any speakers or any other software.
The Animals would be nice though.

Please contact me as soon as possible, will have $$$ for purchase on about
9-15-93, but will wait for a couple replies.

CAT  (407) 282-8827 (voice), or on the board.

THANX,  CAT

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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 4674
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 09/10/93  6:53p
Subj: Dual Mitsumi System                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*@ORIGIN :DATANET BBS  *Fuquay, NC* 919-557-0342  FD/PCB/USR-DS       N
-> > I have two mitsumi cd-rom drive in my PC (= 2 cards controler) > My
-> question : It's possible to chain this drives and how ?
-> Hi Phil,
-> No it is not possible. TTYL

But it is possible for both of them to co-exist though, right?  I have been
looking at adding a second Mitsumi.  I have the additional empty slot but need
to be sure that they will work together.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4675
  To: MARK ELSON                               Date: 09/11/93  3:06a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes II                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->> We've handled Lee's cd's so long, it would be a crime not to Mark!
->>
->> As for price, until we get our first copy in hand, we'll hold off
->> posting prices as they change from one week to the next. But I can
->> assure you, it will be close.
->>
->> Chat with you soon....watch for our post !

>>    Boris,

>>    Go ahead and send it to me COD.....The Address is below...but
>>    you should have it....

Not a problem, we'll add you to our growing list.....

Thanks...

Boris Osadciw

... Xpress Yourself!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4676
  To: WAYNE ROZNAK                             Date: 09/11/93  3:06a
Subj: Re: Wanted Phillips CM212 Caddies       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Looking for caddies for a Phillips CM212.

>>    Best Regards
>>    Wayne Roznak

How many do you need ???

Drop us a note via the fidonet address below and we'll try to help you
out.

Boris Osadciw

... "640K ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates, 1981
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4677
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/11/93  3:06a
Subj: ALL NEW CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     )))))))))))))  SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 IS NOW SHIPPING ((((((((((((
 
       100% 1993 shareware disc - 600+ MEGABYTES ( 4,000 + files )
       of only the best shareware from 1993 - Six different file
       formats for use with every major BBS - All lists have been
       searched, cleaned, and recompiled for quality !
                   This is the ULTIMATE in BBS CDs!
                             Price - $35.00

ORDERS US/CANADA 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4678
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/11/93  3:06a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00  Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $289.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1199.  -SCSI
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00  Texel Ext 265ms Bare  - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00  Texel Ext Complete    - $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $439.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $569.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00  Mitsumi w/Sound Card  - $325.00 -PRPR
 Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50.  ALL ChestNuts CD's $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Mail Media. Do not expose to Flames!
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4679
  To: CHIP MORROW                              Date: 09/11/93 12:16a
Subj: El Cheapo CDROM's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Chip!

09 Sep 93, Chip Morrow writes to All:

 CM> Unloading some used CD's in preparation for 7th Guest:

 CM> Game Arena                    6.00
 CM> PC Game Room                  8.00
 CM> Natl Geo. Mammals            12.00
 CM> Hall of Fame (Shareware CD)   5.00
 CM> Sample THIS!                  2.50

 CM> reached evenings/weekends at 614-366-2296.

Have 7th Guest, never been used as our cd player won't play it, we did watch
the viedo. Call if you want to trade 512-939-9822

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4680
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/11/93 12:20a
Subj: Your check...                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Bob!

09 Sep 93, Bob Jackson writes to Pat Rickerson:

 BJ> was rec'd today (Thursday 9/9). Package will go out tomorrow.

Thank's I'll be waiting for the CD's.

Pat

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4681
  To: JAMES HOGUE                              Date: 09/11/93  7:50a
Subj: PHONE CDS                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

OK, thanks for the info. I'm really only interested in businesses and I  don't
have access to SIC codes. Maybe someone will take the hint and  produce such a
CD for the masses. Cheers! 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4682
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 09/11/93  7:51a
Subj: BBSCON                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You probably saw Lee's list - it was quite lengthy. 
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 4683
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/10/93  7:49p
Subj: CD Wanted                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for Wind Commander 2 on CD. The one that has all the secret
missions and speech pack.

Ron




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From: SAM BECKWITH                           Number: 4684
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/11/93  2:36p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DFW Discount Electronics       09/11/93        Orders: 800-829-0331
                                               Local : 214-254-0331
CD-ROM Price List                              BBS   : 214-259-4188

   * = Indicates file listing available for download via our BBS

CD-ROM Drive   
~~~~~~~~~~~~   
  Mitsumi Int. CD-ROM 350ms Kit w/adapter (non-SCSI)        187.00 

Shareware      
~~~~~~~~~      
* CLIPART GOLIATH (4/93 by Chestnut): Over 11,000 PCX, TIF, $15.00 
  and many other formats. For most desktop publishing      
  programs.                                                

* DR. GAMES (6/93, BBS Ready, by Aces Research, Inc.):      $25.00 
  Adventure, Arcade, Card Games, Chess, Flights, Puzzles,  
  Simulators, Sports, Strategy, Tetris, Wars, Windows      
  Games, and much more.                                    

* GAMES 1993 (4/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago Computer Broker): $22.00 
  Over 6,000 files including Apogee games, unprotects,     
  tips, Tetris clones, lotto, casino, sports, VGA arcade,  
  Flight Simulators.                                       

  MONSTER MEDIA 1993 (5/93, BBS Ready): 420MB, no duplicate $32.00 
  files, FILES.BBS format included and conversion utility  
  provided for most popular BBS systems.                   

* NIGHT OWL 9 (6/93, BBS Ready, by Night Owl Publisher):    $27.00 
  Great disc!                                              

  PC SIG 12 (3/93, by PC SIG): Latest in the PC SIG series. $29.00 

  PC-SIG WORLD of WINDOWS (8/93, BBS Ready, by PC SIG)      $22.00 

  PHOENIX 4.0 (8/93, BBS Ready)                             $21.00 

* SCI-FI FANTASY (4/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago Computer      $25.00 
  Broker): VGA pics including Star Trek, Star Wars,        
  Fantasy, D&D, Creatures, Conan & much more.              

* SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 (7/93, BBS Ready, by Power User       $28.00 
  Software): 650MB, VGA Arcade Games, Home & Hobby,        
  Graphics, Clip Art, Sound Files, Finance, OS/2, Windows, 
  Fonts & much more.                                       

  SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD COLLECTION (9/93, BBS Ready, by       $29.00 
  American Databankers): Over 6,000 files, over 590MB.     
  File areas include: top software hits of 1993, Windows   
  apps and games, DOS games, family & education, business, 
  utils, GIFs, clip art, programming &                     

* SHAREWARE April 1993 (4/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago         $23.00 
  Computer Broker): 5,000 files, games, sounds, Window,    
  utils, education, finance.                               

  SHAREWARE OVERLOAD: Over 6,100 files, Games, MS Windows,  $15.00 
  Business, Clip Art, Education & much more.               

* WINDOWS 1993 (1/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago Computer        $24.00 
  Broker): 7,000 files, Corel Draw utils, BMP, CRD,        
  wallpaper, games, icons, fonts, screen savers, clip art, 
  etc.                                                     

Clip Art       
~~~~~~~~       
  GIFs GALORE: Over 5,000 full color GIFs and viewers for   $19.00 
  MS-DOS, Macintosh, Amiga and Unix.                       

  VGA SPECTRUM II: Over 680MB, over 800 MOD files, over     $24.00 
  1,100 VOC files, animation, SoundBlaster, Top 20 games.  

Game           
~~~~           
  INDIANA JONES & THE FATE OF ATLANTIS: LucasArts' latest   $46.00 
  adventure with The Man with the Hat.  Only Indy can stop 
  the Nazi agents from unleashing the deadly secret that   
  sank Atlantis.  Full voice and enhanced digital sound    
  effects.                                                 

  KINGS QUEST V                                             $19.00 

  LOOM: LucasArts' truly unique fantasy graphic adventure,  $29.00 
  You play the role of a young weaver in the Age of the    
  Great Guilds.                                            

Reference      
~~~~~~~~~      
  FAMILY DOCTOR: Over 1,500 of frequently asked medical     $26.00 
  questions, approx. 300 color medical illustrations, names
  & addresses of support groups/education resources,       
  complete data on over 1,600 prescription drugs.          


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From: DOUG HUNKELE                           Number: 4685
  To: STEVE BERRY                              Date: 09/12/93 11:12a
Subj: files.bbs                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Re: Wondering...
BY: Steve Berry to Doug Carpenter on Tue Sep 07 1993 08:43 pm

watch it when they say files.bbs compatable......yes there is a file called
files.bbs but the file descriptions are multiline not the single line entry
used/expected by some bbs software.  If you import the files.bbs from NO9 and
your system will only read the first line of files.bbs your file description my
look like this:

EXAMPLE.ZIP    10101  5-5-93  This is the best program i have seen it will

while the actual files.bbs description was:

EXAMPLE.ZIP    10101  5-5-93  This is the best program i have seen it will
                              do actually nothing.

hope this helps.
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From: DOUG HUNKELE                           Number: 4686
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 09/12/93 11:15a
Subj: Dual Mitsumi System                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Dual Mitsumi System
BY: Michael Kelly to Ismail Arslangiray on Fri Sep 10 1993 06:53 pm

you can run dual mitisumi systems with no problem, use the software driver vice
the hardware driver and it will work.
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From: SCOTT TRACZYK                          Number: 4687
  To: MARK SANCHEZ                             Date: 09/10/93  8:30p
Subj: Cheap CD-rom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>Panasonic Double Speed Internal w/interface   $265.00
Mr. Sanchez, what's the stats on the Panasonic Double speed?  and will
it work with a Sound Blaster Pro?  How many do you have in stock?  Where
would I order it from, and how much would shipping cost to get it to
Rogers, Mn?

      Thanks for the info,
                          Scott Traczyk

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From: THE SISTER                             Number: 4688
  To: HEATHER KARUSE                           Date: 09/12/93 10:10a
Subj: Re: CD's for Women                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Bob!

BJ> However, either Pork-Ware II or T&A 2 the Maxx might provide
BJ> some interest for you.  You should understand that both of these CDs
BJ> only has about 250 male GIFs each so on a $/GIF basis, they're not a
BJ> good bargain.  (Actually, they're not much of a bargain on any basis
BJ> IMHO (:> ).  T&A 2 the Maxx can be had from it's publishers (Profit
BJ> Publishing) for $12.95 and Pork-Ware II is available for about $35, both
BJ> plus shipping.

Well as a Women & a owner of T & A 2 the Maxx Heather Don't Bother! Most
of the Scans are the same as the ones from Profit Press's FAO series. The
scans are grainy and are not very good. I am trying to find a Publisher/Dealer
to work with to create a more Female slanted Adult Cd-Rom Disk. With Couples
& More Quality Males. Heather if you would like to see what I mean by quality
Male Scans You can contact My BBS at 1-515-256-0402 or 1-515-256-0560. I need 
proof of age...Feds will be happy....You can take a look through the large
(no Pun intended) collection of Male Nudes I have amast & created myself!
        Joannine Gesualdo

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From: THE SISTER                             Number: 4689
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/12/93 10:19a
Subj: Re: CD's for Women                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Bob!
        Read My Post to Heather about this, & T & A 2 the MAXX!
                Joannine Gesualdo

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From: BOB CENTERBAR                          Number: 4690
  To: CHARLEY WEBB                             Date: 09/12/93  9:45a
Subj: wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 09-11-93 CHARLEY WEBB wrote to BOB CENTERBAR... 
 
 CW> BC >I've got an internal 535 with controller card & cable for 
 CW> BC >$200.00, reply 
 CW> BC >here or call 817-699-6525. 
 CW>  
 CW> Well I have been getting just the drives for $150.00, dont need the 
 CW> controller, 
 CW> would you sell just the drive for $150.00?? 
 
Sorry...will only sell as a set, for now, but should I change my mind I'll 
repost the message. 
 
Thanks for the offer...Bob 
 
--- 
 * OFFLINE 1.56 * Live from Central Texas.... 
* LAKOTA v1.0

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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 4691
  To: CARL SLAWINSKI                           Date: 09/16/93  8:22a
Subj: Re: Adult cds for trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 09-15-93 Carl Slawinski wrote to Paul Swider... 
 
 CS> Is it BBS ready and suitable for that type of environment?  
 CS> Is it PG/R type stuff only (ie. no X-Rated penetration type  
 CS> stuff)? 
  
 Carl, The Women of Venus Swimsuit CD is not BBS ready. There are no file 
 descriptions of any sort. It is made to play on an PC or a MAC as a slide 
 show with music or viewing with whatever GIF or TIF viewer a person prefers. 
 So although these are just pretty women in colorful suits (PG type stuff), 
 I don't think it'll meet your needs if it must be BBS ready and that is why 
 I didn't respond by calling. >Paul< 
 
 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50  "Standards are wonderful. So many to choose from!" 

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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 4692
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/16/93  9:18a
Subj: Total Fantasy XXX CD                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Just wondering if anybody has had a chance to check this CD out and how 
does it compare to others. Is it another rehash or is it really something 
new ? Appreciate any inputs. Thanks in advance. >Paul< 
 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50  "Beauty is skin deep. Ugly goes clear to the bone." 

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From: MIKE BRITT                             Number: 4693
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/14/93 10:32p
Subj: Re: Cd Player                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PR> Hello Mike!
 PR> Is the cd player sold? In need of one please reply!


     Am I selling one? Please refresh my memory...do you want an Audio Cd
Player or Computer type?

                                                  Mike

Sphinx EM/v5.0 * Artificial Intelligence: The other guy's opinion.

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 4694
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93  8:29p
Subj: BUSTY BABES #2                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I AM LOOKING FOR BB #  2 , IF ANYONE HAS THIS CD-ROM FOR SALE PLEASE LEAVE
PRICE AND MESSAGE OR FAX ME AT 1-602-292-0497.

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 4695
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93  8:34p
Subj: BB VOL.1 #2                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I AM LOOKING FOR BUSTY BABES VOL.1 #2 , IF ANYONE HAS THIS FOR SALE PLEASE
LEAVE MESSAGE OR FAX ME AT 1-602-292-0497. THANKS

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4696
  To: LEWIS BULLARD                            Date: 09/15/93  5:20p
Subj: Your check...                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

still not received as of Wednesday, Sept. 15. I will hold the package through
the weekend only if I don't hear from you otherwise. (713) 488-0065.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4697
  To: LOUIS BULLARD                            Date: 09/15/93  5:18p
Subj: Your check....                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

still not rec'd as of the mail delivery on Wednesday, 9/15. 
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4698
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 09/16/93 12:58a
Subj: Re: NEW CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    The 4-disk set I was refering to was the PD one.  Hope that
>>    helps you out. If not, shoot me info on both of them....  I am
>>    tired of having to log onto bbs's to get a small PD file, and
>>    then they expect you to pay em over what a cd is worth just
>>    for a 3month membership... shez.

Could you shoot me your voice number, seems the number we have here
is not current or there's something wrong.

Will give you a call as soon as I have it!!

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4699
  To: DOUG HUNKELE                             Date: 09/16/93  2:20a
Subj: Re: catalog                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    RE: Re: canadian sales
>>    BY: Boris Osadciw to Glenn Carey on Mon Sep 13 1993 01:51 am

>>    well boris put me on the bottom of the list for your catalog

>>    Doug Hunkele

OK, you sure you want the bottom ?? It's a V E R Y  L O O O O O N G
list, but we always ami to please.

Oh the Bottom you will go...Oh the Bottom you will go.....Hi Ho to the
Bottom you will go...grin -:)

Boris Osadciw

... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4700
  To: GARY RAMBO                               Date: 09/16/93  2:20a
Subj: Re: Catalog                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Mr. Osadciw,

>>    You might recall the the recent phone conversation we had on
>>    the 13th of September.  I was looking for a caddy-less, fast,
>>    OS/2 compatible, SCSI CD-ROM drive (internal) to attach to my
>>    Pro Audio Studio sound card.

>>    Would you please send me your catalog (if you have any left).

The easy part is the catalog, the hard part will be the drive.

As I stated during our conversation, your asking for something that
doesn't exsist at this point. In fact, we may not even be using cd's
by the time they come up with the above unit.....grin -:) but we'll
keep looking and looking and looking and looking.

Geezzzeee what a NEW PLACE will do to you !!

Oh....do you want to be placed on the Bottom of the list....grin -:)

Boris Osadciw

... Xpress Yourself!
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From: COREY BICCUM                           Number: 4701
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93  3:27p
Subj: Hi speed rom drive?                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ok, just started looking for a rom drive the other week, and was wondering
where would be the cheapest place to get one.  I am looking for the dual spin
scsi type say like a toshiba.  I am writing from Vancouver, BC.  The cheapest
I've seen this drive for is $412us  for card, and drive.  So add on the dollar
and it's getting up there in price.  The main thing is I'm kinda scared having
problems with the drive and buying it from the states.  Anyone know of any good
deals for me?  Either Canada or USA I'd be glad to here from yeah, I am
probably willing to buy two of these drives and cards and a few cd's.  Either
reply to me in the area or E-mail me on this bbs (address below of course), if
you are a dealer, maybe you could send me a catalog of your goods.. roms..ect

thanx in advance...
cb


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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 4702
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/11/93  2:22p
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SG> IF YOU HAVE ANY OF THE ABOVE PLEASE FAX ME OR LEAVE MESSAGE.
SG> THANK-YOU
SG> FAX # 1-602-292-0497

PR> Still waiting for your call, I still have BB#1. I'm in need of simms BAD,
PR> you can reach me at 512-939-9822

Sheesh Pat, if your so desperate for a sale, call *him* and be done with it
already! Your messages are gettin' old. (OTM) Who has some good used Adult or
Commercial cdroms. 
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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 4703
  To: CHIP MORROW                              Date: 09/11/93  2:28p
Subj: El Cheapo CDROM's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CM> Unloading some used CD's in preparation for 7th Guest:

 CM> Game Arena                    6.00
 CM> PC Game Room                  8.00
 CM> Natl Geo. Mammals            12.00
 CM> Hall of Fame (Shareware CD)   5.00
 CM> Sample THIS!                  2.50

 CM> ...or take all five off my hands for $30.00 flat.  Prices include postage
 CM> anywhere here in the 48 states.

 CM> If you want any/all of these, send check or money order to:

 CM>      Chip Morrow
 CM>      40 Valley View Drive
 CM>      Newark, OH  43055

 CM> I will return your check via US Mail if what you want is already gone.
 CM> If you want to make sure I'm really a live individual <g>, I can be
 CM> reached evenings/weekends at 614-366-2296.


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From: DONALD WEN                             Number: 4704
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/14/93  6:34p
Subj: Prophone cd-rom                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Prophone Business+One CD-ROM, 1993 version 1.2.  Single disk.  National
Business Directory on CD-ROM from Prophone's National Edition.  From ProCD
New Media Publishing.

Opened, but manual, registration, and other documents are complete.

How about $25 shipped or best offer?  Reply here if interested.

DONALD WEN
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From: SCOTT OGILVIE                          Number: 4705
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/14/93  5:06p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO*  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759

Boris where do you ship from?

Scott Ogilvie

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From: NICHOLAS O'KRAY                        Number: 4706
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/13/93  8:45p
Subj: CD-ROM Catalogs Wanted                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

All Vendors,
           I would appreciate anyone who sells CD-ROM software
to please send their catalogs or price lists to the following
address.

Nicholas O'Kray
447 S. Hampshire
Elmhurst Il, 60126


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From: GARY GILMORE                           Number: 4707
  To: ALL VENDORS                              Date: 09/15/93  9:19a
Subj: Needed!                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for a good ROM for my system.

I want newer titles, a bare minimum of artwork, prefer NO NO NO ANSI "art" or
"adult" files, heavy on the utils (DOS & Win), and with a minimum of Windows
clocks, button bars, and other oft duplicated "utils".  Disk should be low/no
dupes.

It also has to have a BBS compatible (Files.BBS/Maximus) layout.

Suggestions and prices please.  (Netmail would -really- be nice!)
Please include shipping/COD charges in pricings.  Thanks!

Catalogs can be sent to:

The Bloom County BBS System
4459 Bingham
Dearborn, MI  48126

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 4708
  To: ROBERT KUMMER                            Date: 09/15/93  7:52a
Subj: Re: CD'S To Trade or Sell               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RK>    After Dark
RK>    XXX Extreme

Well I have VGA Spectrum that I would trade... ??  For either of the Above ?

  Kevin Plummer
   (317) 342-2034

                        .......|<evin

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 4709
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93  4:04p
Subj: Night Owl $25                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                  N i g h t   O w l   9 . 0
 ******************************************************************
 *********                                                *********
 ***********           $ 25.00 a Copy !!!               ***********
 *********                                                *********
 ***********                                            ***********
 *********               Ask for Barney                   *********
 ***********           ------------------               ***********
 *********               1-800-638-5757                   *********
 ***********                                            ***********
 *********           We Will NOT be out Sold              *********
 ***********                                            ***********
 ******************************************************************
                  N i g h t   O w l   9 . 0


       ---->>>>>  BBS Ready - Has Files.bbs  <<<<<----

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 4710
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93  4:05p
Subj: Dealers WANTED !!!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

==========>>>>>>  W A N T E D     D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========

  Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers

                   Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
                         Darrel Rivenbark

  Cheapest Prices around !!!!

                                        1-800-865-5354
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From: DENNY VANDEMAELE                       Number: 4711
  To: DANNY BRIGANCE                           Date: 09/11/93  4:03p
Subj: Bible CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have decided to keep it for now Danny.  Sorry about that.  I spent some more
time with it after the last message I sent you, and I don't think that it's too
bad if you read the Docs and Helps real careful while using it.
Den

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From: THOMAS NUFER                           Number: 4712
  To: BILL JONES                               Date: 09/13/93  7:56p
Subj: Re: For sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will go $50 for the lot!Most of it is outdated but still a buy at $50!
Call me at 1-616-344-3329 and ask for Tom or send Post Office COD...
              Tom Nufer
              5135 Spiral
              Kalamazoo,MI 49004

or you are willing to trust me send them priority mail and I will Postal Money
Order you the same day!

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From: THOMAS NUFER                           Number: 4713
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/13/93  8:18p
Subj: Re: great cdrom prices                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you have the 10 disk NASA photos CD collection by any chance and if so how
much?

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4714
  To: STEVE GERWECK                            Date: 09/15/93  8:19a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES II PREORD               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-13-93 18:50> Steve Gerweck wrote:

SG>> What do you recommend?

Well, don't recommend any of them, Hehehhehe--Smutware, Ecstasy, BB I, PC Pix
I,II,III, Hot Pix series (some of them), I know for sure are not repressing--If
ya seen one ya seen them all IMHO--

HUgs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4715
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/15/93  8:27a
Subj: Re: Cities/States                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Mike Shannon <09-14-93 09:28> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>>  LN>nailed for trafficking--

BJ>> Oklahoma               All (27) adult video stores

BJ>>  Mind you, I'm not trying to dispute what Lee has said,
BJ>> merely providing information. Draw your own conclusions.

Agreed, but let me add that Tony Davis is being charged with trafficking XXX
adult GIFS via the phones, and Oklahoma shows 27 adult video stores--Full story
in 'Boardwatch-Sept 93 issue'--So unless you have lots of money, this serves as
no arguement, because it will take tons of money to cross reference the adult
video industry :)

So I conclude the same--Be CAREFUL !!

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 4716
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93 10:02a
Subj: HUNTING CDROM'S                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If anyone out there has the Star Trek CDROM, or the Phone Sex CDROM, I
am looking for them.  Please call me with a price, trade,etc..

Bob
1-800-550-3403

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 4717
  To: KIRK REEVES                              Date: 09/15/93  3:27p
Subj: <> CD-ROM TITLES & MORE <>              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I Kirk,  I had sent my money order to Doug Aug. 3 of this year.  Nothing has
come yet!  I have left him nemerous messages and called his phone and left
messages (Twice) and no reply.  So I would advise you to wait untill I get my
games (If I do) and I'll leave you mail if it's safe or not.

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 4718
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/15/93  3:31p
Subj: NEW CD-ROM TITLES GALORE                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hi Mike,  I had ordered some things from Doug Carpenter (Aug. 3) and nothing
has come yet.  I have left him numerous messages asking him When or if he's
even got my money order yet and the date of shipping he shipped my money order.
  Do you think you could get him to answer these to for me?  Because I have
also called his answering system twice and left messages on there and I have
not YET had a reply.


                Thanks.
                        Hope you can help me.

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From: MIKE CICCOLINI                         Number: 4719
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93  7:10a
Subj: Mitsumi CD and Music CD's               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can anyone tell me if the mitsumi CD can play music cd's like the ones
used on my stereo? What is the capacity available with this cdrom?
Here is my set up:
Soundblaster 1.5
Always IN2000
Scsi Hard drive
What else would I need to have to be able to run a CD rom without any
problems.

 * OLX 2.1 * I can't remember what I told you not to forget!
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From: NATHANIEL BRITTS                       Number: 4720
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/16/93 12:22p
Subj: adult cd's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I was wondering if anybody out there had any gay adult cd's for sale, at a
reasonable price. If not does anybody know where I can find some at? Thanks!
Hope to hear from you soon.
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From: MIKE BRITT                             Number: 4721
  To: REBEL                                    Date: 09/15/93  8:31p
Subj: Re: Mitsuma                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 R?> @ORIGIN :Southern Pride BBS 1:151/151                        
 R?>         N
->     I'll offer ya $110 for it.
->                                       Mike
 R?> Thanks for the offer but 125.00 is the bottom dollar can 
 R?> sell it next month for 125.00 if I have no luck here but 
 R?> thanks anyway.. Eddie Goodman Southern Pride BBS 1:151/151


      I will take it, if you guarentee against DOA.

                                        Mike
                                        704-786-6974

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From: ANDY BILAK                             Number: 4722
  To: CARL SLAWINSKI                           Date: 09/16/93  5:32p
Subj: Re: Adult CDs for Trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-* Quoting what Carl Slawinski said to Andy Bilak on 09-14-93  12:24 *-

 CS> Ahoy Andy!

 CS> On <Saturday September 11 1993>, Andy Bilak was mumbling to Carl
 CS> Slawinski: 
 AB> Would you be interested in selling either of them?

 CS> I suppose. However, I'm still waiting on any trade offers.  8-)

Allright, well if they dont follow through then leave me mail on this
conference and I will get back to you.  Thanks.


... Sir, it looks like the individual took a drill to the Hard Drive.
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From: ANDY BILAK                             Number: 4723
  To: ROBERT KUMMER                            Date: 09/16/93  5:37p
Subj: Re: CD'S To Trade or Sell               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-* Quoting what Robert Kummer said to All on 09-13-93  14:35 *-

 RK> Anyone want to trade some CD's ???

 RK> I have the following CD's I would like to trade or sell.

 RK> Night Owl's Daytime Express
 RK> Night Owl's Business CD
 RK> Shareware Explosion II
 RK> Wiz-Pak 6-Pak CD
 RK> Black Box 4
 RK> Pheonix 3

 RK> Also have 2 adult title's

 RK> After Dark
 RK> XXX Extreme

Would you be interested in selling any of these CD's instead of 
trading them?


... Sir, it looks like the individual took a drill to the Hard Drive.
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From: ANDY BILAK                             Number: 4724
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 09/16/93  5:41p
Subj: Re: Total Fantasy-$19.95                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-* Quoting what Ismail Arslangiray said to All on 09-14-93  06:06 *-

 IA> 
 IA> New Adult Disk
 IA> 
 IA> Total Fantasy
 IA> 
 IA> Thousands of High Quality GIF and animations.
 IA> 
 IA> Price: $19.95
 IA> 
 IA> Available thru:
 IA> 
 IA> GroupWare
 IA> 4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
 IA> Tacoma, WA 98409
 IA> 
 IA> 1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
 IA> FAX 1-206-473-1634 or 1-800-277-5179

Can you tell me the resolution of most of the GIF's and how many are
there on the CD.  How many megs total, and stuff like that.  Also, to
order can I just send a money order?


... Sir, it looks like the individual took a drill to the Hard Drive.
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From: BILL MILLER                            Number: 4725
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 09/15/93  9:12p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Drive For Sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What are you asking for it?
                     Bill Miller

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From: BILL MILLER                            Number: 4726
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 09/12/93  3:56p
Subj: CDROM FOR SALE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HI JERRY HOW MUCH ARE YOU SELLING YOUR NEC FOR IF IT IS'NT SOLD YET?
I'D BE INTERESTED. DOES IT COME WITH ANY DISCS? AND DOES IT COME WITH
CARD AND CABLES AND DRIVERS? PLEASE E-MAIL ME BACK.
                                           BILL MILLER
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From: RON MYATT                              Number: 4727
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/16/93  7:41p
Subj: CD Player                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Wrong rebel   no cd for sale  sorry
Thanks Ron
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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 4728
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/16/93  7:37a
Subj: RE: Toshiba Q's                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>    Hmmm... I guess I shouldn't tell him about all the cat hair I
>    get inside there, eh?    ;-)
 
Heheh.....probably be a good idea to wait and let him find out when he starts
taking the computer apart....hopefully,he hasn't got any allergies<grin>.
 Sounds like it should work out pretty nice,though, if he's putting a 512Meg
HD,Toshiba CD-Rom,etc.....
 
Enjoy!
 
                            Diana

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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 4729
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 09/16/93  7:47a
Subj: RE: Night Owl v10 Pre-Release           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi!
 I would like to be on your mailing list.Please send all info to:
 
                           Diana Kirksey
                           1624 Hwy.99 Sp#79
                           Manteca,CA.  95336
         
              BBS # (209) 239-0883

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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 4730
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/16/93  7:59a
Subj: RE: Re: canadian sales                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send me a Catalog,too.
 
                     Diana Kirksey
                     1624 Hwy.99 SP#79
                     Manteca,CA.  95336
 
 
                           Thank You,
                                       Diana

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4731
  To: MIKE BRITT                               Date: 09/17/93  1:46a
Subj: Cd Player                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Mike!

14 Sep 93, Mike Britt writes to Pat Rickerson:

 MB>      Am I selling one? Please refresh my memory...do you want an Audio Cd
 MB> Player or Computer type?

 MB>                                                   Mike

Looking for computer type you can call 512-939-9822 or reply here, thank's
Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4732
  To: BILL JONES                               Date: 09/17/93  1:56a
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Bill!

16 Sep 93, Bill Jones writes to Pat Rickerson:

 BJ>  Sorry Pat but I couldn't let them go for less than $70.00.

If they are still for sale I will buy them for $70 if you can please tell me
where to send the check, thank's can call to ver if you want to 512-939-9822

Pat

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From: WES HARDIN                             Number: 4733
  To: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON                    Date: 09/15/93  7:48p
Subj: NEC MULTISPIN - 280MS EXT               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CB> What model is it and will it work under OS/2 2.1???  Is 
 CB> the drive new or old or whatever...  Anyway, my biggest 
 CB> most important question, can you play audio CDs on it 
 CB> without adding any extra equipment apart from little 
 CB> amplified speakers???

 CB> Chris

Its true SCSI so I guess it would work under OS/2.1, I haven't tried it yet,
and its been opened but is in "new" shape as to its been used less then 1 hour
to test it (and mainly the system). And yes it comes with software to play
audio cds and supports redbook audio so you get 16bit HIGH QUALITY audio
without any more hardware. This is supported on things like Toolworks'
Multimedia Encyclopedia (with real speeches, musical compositions, animal sound
and even bird calls, I have tried this out and its so real running though my
system that my dog went to the speakers, trying to find the animals!, this also
works with things like, Great Cities of the world, and 
even WINDOWS! The drive has a headphone jack in the front with a volume 
control knob, and the standard audio out jacks in the back! 
What is your offer? I will talk to you later... or call me at (203)221-7143.
Wes Hardin


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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 4734
  To: CARL SLAWINSKI                           Date: 09/16/93  1:26a
Subj: Re: Adult CDs for Trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Carl -

   CS> Have the following Adult titles that I would like to trade
   CS> for something more tame.

   CS> Busty Babes #1 Release 3.0
   CS> Super Smutware

   CS> Prefer a Swimsuit/Nature Nudity type CD. Not XXX.
   CS> Open for Trades or Deals.

I have a copy of "Women of Venus" that I'll trade for Super Smutware.
It's an excellent disc, strictly bathing suit shots, and great for
general audience BBS use.  Photos on the disc are scanned in three
resolutions, from 320x200x256 to 24 bit (1024x768x16.7 million colors).

If you're interested, call me (voice) at (203) 746-1195 M-F 9-5.

                                                  - Arnie :+}

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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 4735
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/16/93  1:17a
Subj: Re: TAM Review - Addendum               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bob -

   BJ> My apologies! My previous review of this CD left out
   BJ> some important text.  Apparently when I wrote the

     The original review never came through here!  Would you
please repost this?  Thanks.

     By the way, I don't recall anyone thanking you properly
for contributing these reviews.  They have saved me hours of
browsing and, due to the subject matter of these discs, also
prevented me from going blind <g>.....

                                             - Arnie :+}

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From: ARNOLD SMITH                           Number: 4736
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93  9:36p
Subj: Wanted Microsoft Bookshelf              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like to purchase bookshelf. Ill buy from the lowest bidder.
Thanks Arnold

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4737
  To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                       Date: 09/16/93  4:39p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-14-93 23:15> Jean-Claude Demars wrote:

JD>> LN> BB II is 1000 images licensed to us by the photographer who

JD>> Can I get some information on this?  I'm also interested.

We have adapted to the new industry standards of offering *ALL* original
photography--We weeded thru 1600 slides and chose 1,000 of them--This disc is
more of a T&A disc, most of the shots are outdoor and involve oceans, pools,
jacuzzi's etc--We have the following directories

a) Wet t-shirt, no panties, busty/no top, swimsuit, teasers, women with   
women, full nudity *Standing, sideview,sitting*, boy with girl, bunshots,
   nudity lying down, from the waist-up shots....200 text stories, and 200
   MB of shareware as a bonus

b) Contains the 1993 image viewer, "SHOWOFF", click and zoom your favorite
   part of the image <snicker-snicker>, and the classic CDMENU for text
   story reading etc....

c) Very tame compared to previous works, but if you like a variety of women
   and your a boob man, this disc will sure to please.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4738
  To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                       Date: 09/16/93  4:40p
Subj: Re: BBSCon                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-14-93 23:33> Jean-Claude Demars wrote:

JD>> I could see it now...  Dear user, if you are calling from a city that
JD>> does not  allow XXX files, hang up now...

We all fear the same (:--Its sit and wait and see what the Gov't does, but I
know I will not be the example for obscenity, its bad enough I am the most sued
of publishers :)

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4739
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 09/16/93  4:50p
Subj: Re: BBSCON                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Doug Carpenter <09-10-93 15:27> Brice Fleckenstein wrote:

BF>> Tony Davis was busted for selling "Adult" CD-ROMs in person.
BF>>  Also, Lee likely has forgotten more about the case by now than you
BF>> currently
BF>> know, as she (and I) both had some longins conversations with Tony at
BF>> the One
BF>> BBS Con on this subject....

Whatcha' mean I have forgotten ? I have not forgotten anything, and I am well
versed on the subject--Did you mean to use the word 'Forgotten' in lieu of the
word 'Gotten'--I will retract my claws pending the answer :)

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4740
  To: HANK PETERSON                            Date: 09/16/93  4:53p
Subj: Re: CD's for Women                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Heather Krause <09-14-93 19:09> Hank Peterson wrote:

HP>>      on the back of the package is wrong.

HP>>      which said to type Printme and follow the step be step
HP>> directions.

Tie my hands to the bed and make me write bad checks :)--YUP, there is no
CDMENU on rel 3.o, covers were done befoer the showoff deal materialized at
last minute--It will be on BB Vol II with showoff though--

We apologize, and we bare our bottoms in shame :)

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: GECKO                                  Number: 4741
  To: PHOENIX                                  Date: 09/15/93 10:25p
Subj: Key to the closet...                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Good enough? I got in, the pass word was just that, a password. <G> Good clue
though, I filled in about 5 words before I got it. So, don't I geta slight
access change?<G>
                             0-Gecko-

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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4742
  To: HANK PETERSON                            Date: 09/16/93  8:22p
Subj: Re: CD's for Women                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HP>     I tell you this because maybe that same thing is happening to you
HP>     and people aren't aware of how to run that disk and the information
HP>     on the back of the package is wrong.

    Thanks for the info, but that wasn't my problem. The disk I had it on
    was Ecstasy Hot Pics, not the one(s) you mentioned. And I got it to run
    fine, except that it bombed on several of the files while viewing.

    Anyway, the info might be very useful to someone else who's in that
    boat, so thanks anyway!

- Heather
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4743
  To: ANDY BILAK                               Date: 09/16/93 12:39p
Subj: Re: over 21 CDROMS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DC> 
 DC> SMUTWARE..(640+ mb-1000 SVGA gifs-2000 VGA 
 DC> gifs-100 anims **)...26.95

 AB> I want to buy this CD.  Can I send you a money order and what is the
 AB> address to send it to?


Yes..you can send a money order to PCJ, 323 TN Nursery Rd., Cleveland, TN 
37311.  Add $5 for shipping.  We have it in stock as of this message.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4744
  To: KIRK REEVES                              Date: 09/16/93 12:43p
Subj: Adult Cd-rom Disk 4Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 KR> Would you be willing to sell me Asian ladies, Mystique of the Orient,
 KR> and the seventh guest you said you were selling for 39.  all together 
 KR> for an even hundred?

Nope..sorry.  

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4745
  To: LONG TIMER                               Date: 09/16/93 12:45p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-ROM DISK 4SALE             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Call our BBS at 615-478-2890 and download pcjcds.zip.

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From: TIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 4746
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/16/93  8:54p
Subj: NIX PIX I                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Nix Pix I CDROM disc, one only, 75.00 shipped. 1-318-988-1404 or netmail
1:3803/1.4



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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 4747
  To: AL LEE                                   Date: 09/15/93  7:34p
Subj: CD Trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AL>Would like to sell/trade KGB/CIA World Factbook CD
AL>I received with my CD drive.  Low miles: I only used it to test the drive
AL>and go back and forth to church on Sundays :)
AL>$15 + shipping obo

   $10 including shipping is offered.

   Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ Can you imagine conning eight cats into pulling a sled?


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 4748
  To: BOB ROSOL                                Date: 09/15/93  7:35p
Subj: COREL ARTSHOW 3 CD                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BR>Latest Corel ArtShow 3 CD with beautifully printed coffee table book

BR>          $25 + UPS

   I'll offer you $22 including USPS.
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ Apathy Error: Don't Bother Striking Any Key


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4749
  To: LEWIS BULLARD                            Date: 09/16/93  4:18p
Subj: Check rec'd                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

by mail on Thursday, 9/16. It was cancelled twice - one in Oak City and  once
in Houston. Perhaps that had something to do with the delay. Anyway,  CDs will
go out tomorrow. Cheers! 
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: KIRK REEVES                            Number: 4750
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 09/16/93  8:34p
Subj: <> CD-ROM TITLES & MORE <>              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DS> I Kirk,  I had sent my money order to Doug Aug. 3 of 
 DS> this year.  Nothing has come yet. So I would advise you 
 DS> to wait.

Thanks for the warning.  So far I haven't brought anything from him.  Still
shopping for the best price.

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From: KIRK REEVES                            Number: 4751
  To: COREY BICCUM                             Date: 09/16/93  8:42p
Subj: Hi speed rom drive?                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CB>  I am looking for the dual spin scsi type say like a 
 CB> toshiba.  I am writing from Vancouver, BC.  The 
 CB> cheapest I've seen this drive for is $412us  for card, and drive.

I am looking for a cd-rom drive as well.  This is a good price.  Can you tell
me where you found this drive.  Hopefully he is a dealer so he has plenty
available.  Leave me a note with the name and address.  Also, leave me a
reminder about this message as The  message disappear fast on the board I call
and I am forgetable.

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From: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                       Number: 4752
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 09/16/93  7:00p
Subj: Night Owl v10 Pre-Release               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Ray!

In a message to All <09/13/93> Ray Herold wrote:

RH>  NEWSLETTER:  TCM will be sending out another Newsletter with more info
RH>  on Night Owl 10 within a week or so.  If you aren't on our mailing list,
RH>  leave a R/O message here with your name/address, or call the BBS and
RH>  leave a Comment to the Sysop.  Members of our newsletter "family" receiv
RH>  DISCOUNTS not available to the general public.

Please put me on your newsletter mailing list:

Jeff Collingwood
1942 Rowley Av
Ramona, CA 92065

...Jeff...

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From: FRANK GRESH                            Number: 4753
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/16/93  8:51p
Subj: Adult CD ROM's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> FG> Just curious, and looking for a few recommendations...I would li
-> FG> know what folks consider as their favorite adult CD, I've just o
->
-> Too broad of a question (pardon pun). What kind of subject matter are
-> you looking for (e.g. nudity or sex; if sex, what kind - hetero or
-> ???)
OK, that was a broad question, in more specific terms..
SVGA or VGA graphics, 256 colors, hetero, sex and nudity (don't they go
together), yes I am MPC compatible.
.
Hope this helps, and someone can head me in the right direction, seems
like soooooo many CD's, so little time (well money too).  Thanks, any
help from anyone would be appreciated
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From: SAM BECKWITH                           Number: 4754
  To: SASHA ZIVANOVIC                          Date: 09/16/93  4:16p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sasha,

I don't buy or sell used equipment...thanks anyway.

Thanks,
Sam


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From: ROEL SARCENO                           Number: 4755
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/15/93  8:42p
Subj: BUSTY BABES 1 FOR SALE!                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike,

->                |   BUSTY BABES vol 1 release 1 FOR SALE!   |
->
->                          - All offers considered -
->
->   This is the one all the controversy is about!  Flawless example wit
->   original jewel case and covers.  No smudges, no cracks, no scratche
->   BONUS OFFER:  I will include a brand new BUSTY BABES vol 2 release
->                 with this CD at NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE, to the highest
->                 bidder.  This all new edition of Busty Babes should b
->                 ready by late September, so if Busty #1 sells before
->                 is released, we will ship separately when available.
->

Will you accept $55 for Busty Babes Vol1 - Rel1?

Roel


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From: AL LEE                                 Number: 4756
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/16/93  6:08p
Subj: Re: CD Trade                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

No, thank you.

Al

... RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure!
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From: BILL WOLFORD                           Number: 4757
  To: BILL JONES                               Date: 09/14/93 11:02a
Subj: Swimwear 93                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll take the swimwera 93. If you can send me a phone number I'll be
glad to call about where to send the check.

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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 4758
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/16/93 12:11a
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Greetings All, I have a copy of Asian Ladies I'd like to trade, currently
interested in Southern Ladies or 7th Guest (with or without video).  I'd
also consider trading the disc and some $$$ for Mystique of the Orient.
Thanks in advance!  =:)

,\\ark

 
... Increase the size of your packet with Big Johnsen TagLines!
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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 4759
  To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                       Date: 09/16/93 10:31a
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROMS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Jean-Claude,

 > in the event it helps, if you can produce a disk with less directories
 > in it then the SMITEL disk, I'd buy it.  I have a Simtel in my system
 > now, and only use about 1/3  of it because I can't see setting up file
 > areas that only have less then 10 files in them.

          Then I suggest you don't go anywhere near the AmigaNet CD.  While
Simtel-20 has a lot of directories on it, AmigaNet has 595!


                                                   Cheers,

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From: JEFF WEISS                             Number: 4760
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/16/93 12:27a
Subj: ** Cut your own CD-ROM!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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Please call first to schedule your CD conversion and to confirm
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Eternal Archive Solutions, Inc.
PO Box 4402
Waterbury, CT 06704-0402
(203) 759-0574 voice
(203) 759-0553 fax

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From: GERALD RYCKMAN                         Number: 4761
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 09/16/93  5:33a
Subj: Adult CD ROM's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FG>>Just curious, and looking for a few recommendations...I would like to
  >>know what folks consider as their favorite adult CD, I've just orderd a
  >>couple from Mike Shannon, but I'm still curious, because I have seen so
  >>many advertised.  Any help would be appreciated. Thanks..Frank

I personally think they are all pretty much the same...but then I look 
at pornography differently from others: "You see one you see them all".
But then, I apply that phrase only to X to XXX-rated pictures...I 
never like them. I love G to R-rated pictures better. I look at 
photography rather than pornography.

I can tell you what NOT to buy...there are 2 Swimsuit disks I know of 
that are ripoffs and 1 R/X-rated CD that don't worth poo-poo (another 
word for the 4-lettered word starting with "S"). The 2 ripoff disks are 
"Lovely Ladies 2" and "Women of Venus". The 1 XXX-rated CD that doesn't 
worth hoot is "Digital Dreams". 

Why they suck??? Well, first of all, the 2 swimsuit disks contain 
duplicate files. They are the same pictures but different resolutions. 
LL2 contains 94 2.35 megs each 24-bit 1024x768x16m BMPs (VPIC refused 
to work), 400 1024x768x256 BMPs, and 400 640x480x256 BMPs of the same 
crap. WOV contains 96 megs of useless Macintosh music files, 425 of 24-
bit 640x480x16m TIFs, 425 of 640x480x256 GIFs, and 425 of 320x200x256 
GIFs of the same junk. WOV is even worst because the pictures are 
extremely badly touched up (if they did touched up). Dark color covers 
most of the pictures....and unbelievably you can see veins or blood 
vessels covering their bodies. I am sure ALL picture viewing program 
from ALL under-developed, low technology countries, allows you to view 
1024x768 down to 640x480 and quite a few picture viewers are able to 
cramp and view a full 1024x768 picture into a 640x480 screen. 

The 1 R/X-rated Digital Dream I know of that sucks pretty bad because 
it contains all 1024x768x256 GIFs but the worst of any kind 
picture quality. Dark and lines-invested pictures on all pictures. And 
most of the pictures are probably 640x480 but re-edited and cramped 
into a little picture making it 1024x768. Well, they claim this disk is 
a brand new release. MAYBE. Brand new but old scans using 1940's 
scanners.
*
1 more worth mentioning but minor problem....Erotic Encounters Volume 
1. It contains mostly XXX-rated pictures and over 250 corrupted, 
unreadable GIFs.

Anyways, in my list of CDs, seems like the 7-disk Seedy ROM collection,
the 3-disk PC-PIX series, and the 4-disk (5?? actually because the 1st 
disk is illegal on most states and definitely illegal anywhere in 
Canada) Hot PIX series are worth the price. I like them because they 
contain alot of those series of DS-F (DataShack), NLR/NLG (Nitelog 
Imaging), LADYR/LDYR (Garlique), PICR/PICG (Prizm), and a whole lot 
more R-rated Playboy Magazine type of pretty babes. But then, they 
also contains quite of bit of those lousy Garby's Lounge, NightHawk, 
and Laura's Lair amateur XXX-rated photos and alot of other BBSes' 
XXX-rated pics.

*

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From: BRIAN BOURNE                           Number: 4762
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/16/93 11:02p
Subj: CD-ROM for Sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have "The San Diego Zoo Presents: The Animals" (The Windows Version).  This
disc in still in the shrink wrapping.

I will sell it for $20, no tax.

Give me a call at 225-0205.

Brian

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From: MICHAEL KOKOTT                         Number: 4763
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93  4:13p
Subj: Catalogs wanted...                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Christian Bourguignon@1:163/512 meinte am 12.09.93
zum Thema "Catalogs wanted...":

I am looking for any CD-ROM catalog I can get my hands on!!!  Anyone who is
selling CDs and who have catalogs available from around the world, please
send them to:

I would also like drive catalogs with different drives for sale...

I want this catalogs too!

Michael Kokott
Pleistalstr. 217
53757 St. Augustin    GERMANY

I like to sell your CD here in Germany, please contact me if you're interested.
Greetings
Michael
--
** BYE BYE sagt Michael (bloeder Fuss, aber besser als vorher) **



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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4764
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 09/16/93  7:55a
Subj: Intolerance                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Scott Lackey <=-
 BF> Please keep your intolerance to yourself in the future. ESPEICALLY
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sorry, Brice, but you asked for this one: Your constant tirades against
caddies and Windows is no different than this fellow's, a;beit you
stayed on topic and he didn't. If you want to help stamp out
intolerance, do it by example. <EOT>


... Drop your carrier ... we have you surrounded!
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From: LARISSA DE SANTIS                      Number: 4765
  To: ALL VENDORS                              Date: 09/16/93 12:33p
Subj: CD-Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you could please send me a catalogue of your stuff... I would really
appreciate it!
 
        5726 Arenas Timbers
        Humble, TX   77346
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From: RUSSELL WAGNER                         Number: 4766
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/16/93  2:57p
Subj: WISH                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Original to All at 1:390/5.4 in "LIMBAUGH"
 * Forwarded Thu Sep 16 1993  14:57:43 by MICHAEL SELLS at 1:390/5.4

This message was from JOHN ANDRIESSEN to ALL,
originally in conference ShortwaveL
and was forwarded to you by RUSSELL WAGNER.
                    -------------------------
Hello everybody,

Hereby a message that is not related to aviation but also very important.
Sorry Moderator but I hope that you will can slip this message for one time !

John

   -------------- < C U T > ----------------------------------------


Hello Everybody,

In the Childrens Hospital Sofia, in the netherlands, is lying the 8 years old
Mike van den Heuvel.
He is a terminal-leukemie patient an unfortunaly he has no longer to
live anymore !
His last wish is to get in the Guiness Book of Records. We would like
to ask you to work with him and make his dream possible !!
You can help him by that to send him a greatingscard or something like
that. He need a lot of cards to become his dream possible, so please
please, help him !!!!!

His Adress:         Mike v.d Heuvel
                    Sophia Kinderziekenhuis
                    Quarantainebox 3
                    Gordelweg 160
                    3038 GE Rotterdam
                    Netherlands
                    -----------------------

Greatings,
Monique

    FMail 0.94


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From: TIMOTHY KINNEY                         Number: 4767
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93 11:08p
Subj: CD ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mitsumi CD Rom (NEW) Installed Locally LR, AR area 225.00
CALL:
P.C. Sol at (501) 565-3789
Tim 

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From: HANK PETERSON                          Number: 4768
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/17/93  9:44a
Subj: Re: CD's for Women                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (16 Sep 93) Lee Noga wrote to Hank Peterson...

 LN> Tie my hands to the bed and make me write bad checks :)--YUP, there is
 LN> no CDMENU on rel 3.o, covers were done befoer the showoff deal
 LN> materialized at last minute--It will be on BB Vol II with showoff
 LN> though--
 LN> 
 LN> We apologize, and we bare our bottoms in shame :)

    My dog Sedrick writes bum checks while Trixie his girl friend has him 
    tied to the bed. He does it with his tail. You been takin lessons 
    from him?  Thanks for the feed back. I am a old hand with XXX rated
    videos (used to have coffee with John Holmes at a drive in Hollywood, 
    at the corner of Western and Hollywood Blvd.) but I am new to the
    CD-ROM stuff.  Lookin forward to your new release. I got rid of my
    electric skillet and now fry my eggs on the Texel when Busty Babes
    is running.
    
    
    

    

... I know Karate - and enough Chinese words to spell "Dead Punk", too.

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From: RICK KOSICK                            Number: 4769
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/17/93  7:36p
Subj: CDS 4 SALE                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following titles for sale (used).

PIER 1 -15.00
Niteowl 6 -13.00
Niteowl 7 -18.00
Shareware Extravaganza (4 disk set) -20.00

Contact Rick Kosick at Modern BBS Development (NO REPLIES HERE!!)
voice (215) 638-1424
internet rick.kosick@modern-bbs.com
fidonet 1:273/730

Email or voice only please, no replies here!!

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From: GEORGE SCOTT                           Number: 4770
  To: MIKE CICCOLINI                           Date: 09/17/93  9:35a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi CD and Music CD's           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 15 Sep 93  07:10:11, Mike Ciccolini spewed the following on All:

MC> Can anyone tell me if the mitsumi CD can play music cd's like the ones
MC> used on my stereo? What is the capacity available with this cdrom?
MC> Here is my set up:

Yes, I have an old Mitsumi drive (850 ms access time argh!) I play CD's all of
the time.  A file came with the installation disks called TCDP.EXE, try music 
box or something if you run windoze.

George

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From: BILL DENNISON                          Number: 4771
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/16/93  3:56p
Subj: CDROM SPECIAL                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris,
    Will you be carrying the Night Owl #10 disk?  I've seen an offer for
$39,  but know _someone_ out there will have a much more reasonable
price of $25 or so like all the other Night Owl disks. <g>

    Bill


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From: TAIRA OKAZAKI                          Number: 4772
  To: DONNIE RAYNOR                            Date: 09/16/93  2:05p
Subj: PROBLEM WITH CD ROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DR> I was wondering if any could shed some light on a problem that is
 DR> about to drive me crazy? I bought a new Mitsumi internal CD-Rom and
 DR> installed it in my 386/40mhz IBM clone. I have a SBPro sound board
 DR> installed and am using the controler board that came with the Mitsumi
 DR> to run the CD-Rom drive. O.K. this is where it gets strange. After

I am not sure what kind problem is. But from my experience, you can try to
chenge the CD-ROM device program. There are two types of transfer driver in 
MITSUMI drive. When I used DMA transfer I got stuck sometimes. So I cnhnged to 
the software transfer driver. Then I was able to use it without any problem. 
I am not specialist for CD-ROM drive but I just wanted to say from my problem
with my MITSUMI internal drive.
    GOOD LUCK!!
       SEE  YOU LATER!!
            from T.O.

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From: GREG ISOKRARI                          Number: 4773
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/16/93  7:00p
Subj: Adult CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a couple of adult CD's...  However I would like some
discriptions first.  I am looking for a CD that has gifs with everything form
R-XXX, everything that is but gays, animals, bondage, or any of the really
demented stuff...

I would also like to get an interactive game of some sort...  I have a SVGA
1024-768, but I like a vesa driver (If anyone has a vesa driver for Oak
Technology I would love to call long distance and get it from you)...  Make
that lack a vesa driver.  So no SVGA unless I get that driver something funny
that is above the PG-13 level.....

Any help would be appreciated...

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From: MARTIN BELCKE                          Number: 4774
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/17/93  3:02p
Subj: Hackers World Monster-I                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**********************************************************
******* NOTICE **** NOTICE **** NOTICE **** NOTICE *******
**********************************************************

Tired of the same OLD files you find on other CD-ROMS?

Tired of the same OLD "filee" added to the CD because
there aren't enough good programs?

Tired of getting ripped off?

               YOU NEED HACKERS WORLD
                    MONSTER-I CD

This CD has over 4,000 files that are all 1993.  There are
NO fillers, GIFS, or Adult Files.  Only QUALITY programs
are on this CD.  We guarantee it!!  BBS Ready.............

                $45.00  (Shipping included)

(309) 672-4406 Voice (M-F 10-6 Central) (309) 672-4436 FAX
(309) 672-4447 USR D/S Lines            (309) 672-4405 Data

Master Card/Visa/Personal Checks/Company Checks/Cash

Call today and order your own personal copy................

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From: BILL ALEXANDER                         Number: 4775
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/17/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: Canadian sales                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO> You'll be even more please when you see our BRAND NEW CATALOG ! To put
BO> it
BO> lightly....it's AWSOME and so are the savings and FREE BEES !!

BO> Watch your mail box soon....if you don't get yours soon, drop us a note
BO> and YELL for a copy or you'll miss out on a lot of specials.


Boris,

Please send me a catalog!

Address is:

Bill Alexander
509 Pine Ridge Ln.
Aubrey, TX 76227


Thanks.

Bill

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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 4776
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/18/93 12:36p
Subj: Cdrom caddies                           Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

  Hi Mike!
  How much are your cd caddies? And is there a difference between IBM
and Mac caddies?  I really am not sure myself if there is or not.


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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 4777
  To: JOE MCDANIEL                             Date: 09/16/93 12:27p
Subj: Busty Babes 2 2.0                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Joe Mcdaniel to Steve Gerweck <=-

 JM> Ill take one as soon as it arrives at the 27.95 price or within,
 JM> send c.o.d. if possible to 1628 N sorenson ln.......Las Vegas,
 JM> NV....89115.... Send to BIG JoE's BBS....Joe McDaniel
 JM> Thanks a million...lemme know if this is ok?

Joe, I don't know what happened, but I did not post that message.  I'm not a
vendor.


Steve




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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 4778
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/16/93 12:28p
Subj: BUSTY BABES II PREORDERS!               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Steve Gerweck <=-

 SG>How does this one compare to BB III?  Any celeb photos???

 MS> Not as I understand it.  Mostly, if not entirely consisting of pro
 MS> models shot by magazine photogs.  Should be a keeper!

More magazine shots?  That's all BB III has.


Steve

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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 4779
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/17/93  1:09p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES II PREORD               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Lee Noga to Steve Gerweck <=-

 LN> Well, don't recommend any of them, Hehehhehe--Smutware, Ecstasy, BB I,
 LN> PC Pix I,II,III, Hot Pix series (some of them), I know for sure are not
 LN> repressing--If ya seen one ya seen them all IMHO--

Do you have a catalog?  If so, please send me one.  I'll post my address in
my tagline.

 LN> HUgs,

I hope you're female! :)


Steve


... Steve Gerweck, 530 Concetta Drive, Monroe, MI 48161-3542
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From: DAVID SMITH                            Number: 4780
  To: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                         Date: 09/18/93 11:30a
Subj: Night Owl v10 Pre-Release               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Could you put me on the mailing list for that newsletter?

David T. Smith
1121 Stonetrail
Plano, TX 75023

Thanks...
... OFFLINE 1.52
...............................................................................


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From: STERLING PRICE                         Number: 4781
  To: GEORGE SCOTT                             Date: 09/17/93  6:16a
Subj: sick                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GS> How about $10, plus $1 for shipping.  I just bought a CD-ROM
GS> and I don't have
GS> any CD's for the BBS yet :)

    Hi, George.  I'm really looking more for a trade on this disk (Physical
Therapy),  but if I don't get any trade offers on it within a few days,  I will
probably accept your offer.  I will respond on this echo.

Sterling

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From: STERLING PRICE                         Number: 4782
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/17/93  6:20a
Subj: Trade                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ> SP> I have the CD "Physical Therapy"  I would like to trade.  This
BJ> If you don't get any other offers, I'll trade you even for
BJ> this package:
BJ> Ham Radio (Chestnut), O'Conner shareware (oldie), and
BJ> MegaDemo (from PP

    Okay, Bob,  and thanks for your reply.  Still considering offers,  but I
will let you know within a few days.

Sterling

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From: THE SISTER                             Number: 4783
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93  8:48p
Subj: Adult Rom's For Sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!
        Well I have FAO 1 & 2 for Sale. They are Brand new and I paid $36.99
for each one. I will let them go for $35.00 each. My price didn't include
tax & Shipping or handling. I will pay shipping for you. I also Have T & A 2
the Maxx. I will sell this one for $15.00. It is brand New from Profit Press,
the makers of FAO. It has Famous nudes and text files. I also have Storm III
and Adult Animation Fantasies I, I will let the both go for $40.00 for both.
The FAO's, T & A 2 the MAXX & Storm III are all BBS ready. If you are 
intrested in any of them you can reach me here in this echo!
                Sis

 * WCE 1.10/[NR] * Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a tagline writer.


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From: MIKE FURST                             Number: 4784
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/18/93  8:10a
Subj: Received Order                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike,
 Wanted to let you know I received ny order in just a few days and
wanted to say thanks!!!
 I have a question on the Precision Mapping CD ROM, are all of the US
Cities included or do you have to buy modules like the program AUTOMAP?
                                       Thanks again,
                                        -- Mike

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From: JOHN ENGLAND                           Number: 4785
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/18/93  7:35a
Subj: For sale-mitsumi                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For sale:
---------
(ONE) Mitsumi internal CD-ROM drive. CRMC-LU005S. Excellent condition. Only a
few months old, with box. Make an offer ! (ONE) Panasonic KX-P2124 24-pin dot
matrix printer. Letter quality, super quiet. Excellent condition. Only a few
months old. Make an offer ! (ONE) Soundblaster Pro (basic). Excellent
condition. Make an offer !

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From: JOHN ENGLAND                           Number: 4786
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/18/93  7:38a
Subj: Sb pro-compatible cd-rom                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@SUBJECT:SB PRO-compatible CD-ROM drives                             N Can
someone offer some advice ? I have a SB-PRO sound card and a Mitsumi
CRMC-LU005S CD-ROM drive. Is it at all possible to NOT use the drive's 16-bit
card and just use the SB-PRO's CD-ROM adapter ??? If this is NOT possible,
which drive CAN it be done with and what are the specs/prices ? Any help would
be greatly appreciated ! Thanks !

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From: JOHN ENGLAND                           Number: 4787
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 09/18/93  7:45a
Subj: Mitsumi 300ms                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi, Michael. I have a used Mitsumi CRMC-LU005S in excellent condition for sale.
I purchased it a few months ago. I still have the box and the receipt.  I will
sell it for about $125.00. If you are interested, let me know. (This is not
John-this is Jeff.)

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From: HANK PETERSON                          Number: 4788
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/17/93  6:31p
Subj: Re: CD's for Women                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (16 Sep 93) Heather Krause wrote to Hank Peterson...

 HK>     Thanks for the info, but that wasn't my problem. The disk I had it
 HK> on was Ecstasy Hot Pics, not the one(s) you mentioned. And I got it
 HK> to run fine, except that it bombed on several of the files while viewing.
 
      I found the same thing on Busty Babes too. In one section that had
      15 pages, only about 10 would work properly the rest would send me
      a message that they don't exist when ShowOff tries to bring then up.
      If you find the answer, please let me know.  Thanks

... Changing barnyards won't make a pig turn into a golden goose

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From: ED FORTIN                              Number: 4789
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 09/18/93 12:00a
Subj: Night Owl V10                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll take one.........
Leave me a message when there ready to ship and I'll send off the coin!




Ed Fortin
RR7 Perth,Ont
K7H-3C9
Voice 1-631-264-8392
BBS   1-613-264-2675

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From: MIKE ASTIN                             Number: 4790
  To: ROBERT KUMMER                            Date: 09/17/93  9:40p
Subj: CD'S To Trade or Sell                   Refer: NONE
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 >    Anyone want to trade some CD's ???

 > I have the following CD's I would like to trade or
 > sell.

 >    Night Owl's Daytime Express
 >    Night Owl's Business CD
 >    Shareware Explosion II
 >    Wiz-Pak 6-Pak CD
 >    Black Box 4
 >    Pheonix 3

 >  Also have 2 adult title's

 >    After Dark
 >    XXX Extreme

What kind of prices are you asking?

Mike
(703) 977 - 0045 (BBS)

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From: MIKE ASTIN                             Number: 4791
  To: JOEL WHITE                               Date: 09/17/93  9:41p
Subj: Cd Of Bbs Stuff                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Does anyone know of any cd's that are all bbs
 > programs?  I don't
 > mean bbs ready stuff for download... I mean door
 > games, front
 > doors, utilities for use in Wildcat, Spitfire, RBBS,
 > etc.
 > I you know of one, please let me know.

If you find out, then let me know!

Mike

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4792
  To: DONNIE RAYNOR                            Date: 09/18/93  1:31a
Subj: Re: PROBLEM with CD ROM                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>     Hi,
>>       I was wondering if any could shed some light on a problem
>>       that is about to drive me crazy? I bought a new Mitsumi
>>     internal CD-Rom and installed it in my 386/40mhz IBM clone. I
>>     have a SBPro sound board installed and am using the controler
>>     board that came with the Mitsumi to run the CD-Rom drive.
>>     O.K. this is where it gets strange. After installing the
>>     drive it worked great. Then all of a sudden it just quit
>>     working, when I would go to access the drive the busy light
>>     will light up but nothing happens. At that point I have to
>>     boot the system. I can remove the controller and reinstall it
>>     and it will start working again. The drive will allow me to
>>     use it a couple of times, then sooner or later when I access
>>     the drive the busy will light up and just stay lit. The only
>>     way I can get the drive to turn lose of the CPU is to boot
>>     it. If anyone has any ideas on this one please respond.

Donnie, suggest you check youur IRQ assignment's as this could cause
the problem your having.

We had the same problem on a system we built for a customer and found
we need to change it's address and it worked great after that!

Hope this helps...

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4793
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/18/93  1:31a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
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Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00  Texel Ext 265ms Bare  - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00  Texel Ext Complete    - $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $439.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $569.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00  Mitsumi w/Sound Card  - $325.00 -PRPR
 Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50.  ALL ChestNuts CD's $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4794
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/18/93  1:31a
Subj: PANASONIC CDROM                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4795
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/18/93  1:31a
Subj: SPECIAL                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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             FREE C.C.I  T-SHIRT with $100. order or more !!!
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... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4796
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 09/17/93  1:56p
Subj: CD Wanted                               Refer: NONE
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RL>I'm looking for Wind Commander 2 on CD. The one that has all the secret 
  >missions and speech pack. 
 
Hi Ronald.  Send me your address, and I'll send you my catalog. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4797
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/17/93  2:43p
Subj: Adult CD for Women                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HK>   Many thanks for your efforts! Looks like a definite possiblity, now 
  >   that you've explained more about the contents. I'm unable to swing 
  >   a purchase presently... just bought some other stuff, AND I'm having 
  >   problems with my drive (don't want to buy more CDs until I get this 
  >   figured out). However, I'll archive your message and may be back in 
  >   touch if/when things get squared away. 
 
No problem.  My efforts weren't wasted.  Let me know if you have any 
questions or need anything.  Thanks! 
 
 
                                                        Jim... 
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From: DAVE WILGA                             Number: 4798
  To: COREY BICCUM                             Date: 09/17/93  7:57p
Subj: Hi speed rom drive?                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CB> wondering where would be the cheapest place to get one.  I am
CB> looking for the dual spin scsi type say like a toshiba.  I am
CB> writing from Vancouver, BC.  The cheapest I've seen this drive
CB> for is $412us  for card, and drive.  So add on the dollar and
CB> it's getting up there in price.  The main thing is I'm kinda

I have the Toshiba 3401B and am TOTALLY pleased with it, though I DID
have CorelSCSI previously installed and am not sure if it will work
without it...

CompUadd price:  $399      p/n: 45884          1-800-627-1985


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From: VINCE ARENAS                           Number: 4799
  To: JOEL WHITE                               Date: 09/17/93  8:41p
Subj: Cd Of Bbs Stuff                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Joel Try the new Night Owl 9 CD Rom.
-> Does anyone know of any cd's that are all bbs programs?  I don't
-> mean bbs ready stuff for download... I mean door games, front
-> doors, utilities for use in Wildcat, Spitfire, RBBS, etc.
-> I you know of one, please let me know.
-> ___
->  X MegaMail 2.10 #0:Fantasy Wilderlands - Best in Fantasy Gaming.
->
-> --- Maximus 2.01wb
->  * Origin: Sonoma Online (1:125/7)

Try the Night Owl 9 Cd rom

Vince


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From: TYRONE THOMASON                        Number: 4800
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/17/93 10:14p
Subj: U.S. Mail                               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MS>timing is everything in this ever-changing CD game!  8)

You're right about that.  Next time I'll wait.

     Ty.

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From: DAVID SEITZ                            Number: 4801
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 09/15/93  8:12p
Subj: Night Owl v10 Pre-Release               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please add me to your Mailing list please

David Seitz
403 Pacific Ave.
Lansdale,Pa 19446


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 4802
  To: BILL ALEXANDER                           Date: 09/16/93  2:20p
Subj: Re: CDRoms for sale                     Refer: NONE
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>> They are only authorized to accept cash or check (according to their
>> manual) and then they charge the receiver an extra .75 for a money-order
>> fee. I gave them the money in cash so you should be getting a
>> money-order.

    I got it today, thanks.
    You are right, but who knows what the post office does?

    BTW, did you like the roms?

Eric


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 4803
  To: KEVIN KING                               Date: 09/16/93  2:22p
Subj: CDROMS FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> Eric Are you a dealer of Cd-Rom's? Do you sell to dealers? I'm looking
>> for a distibutor who eill sell at quanity prices?  Kevin King, Sysop

    I'll sell to dealers, and give quantity discounts.  Netmail me and
we'll talk.

Eric Bravick
USF 3008
4202 E. Fowler Ave.
Tampa, FL. 33620-3008

(813) 985-9619 (Voice)
(813) 985-9723 (BBS)
Netmail 1:377/53.0


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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4804
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 09/15/93 10:53p
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
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->            ProPhone 1993 7-disc set      50    37
->      I am interested in this set,  do you ship COD, and if so
Hi Todd!

    I'm afraid they're all gone! We can get more in, but it would be the
regular price.

    .\\ichellea
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4805
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/15/93 10:54p
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
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-> MS>   .\\ichellea
->
-> Just for grins, what is the correct pronunciation of your name? Is it
-> mi-SHELL-a, MI-sha-LEE, mi-SHELL-e-a,.... Just curious.

Hi Bob!

    Its Mih-shell-ah... Michelle-with-an-A!

    .\\ichellea
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4806
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93 11:04p
Subj: SHAREWARE EXPLORER                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To everyone looking for shareware CD-ROMs:

   You NEED to consider a new release called Shareware Explorer. Its an
excellent 4 disc set (3 DOS shareware and 1 Windows) covering up to
August of this year. Its very well laid out, no duplication, great file
selection... looks like a lot of care went into this set! One of our
customers said "I'm throwing away my Night Owls. I'll put these four in
my 6-CD changer, and a couple of specialty CDs, and my users will go
crazy!" when he got it. Give us a call about getting a copy at
306-789-4654!

    .\\ichellea

P.S. Don't forget BB2 will be here soon!
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From: G. LARRY WEBB                          Number: 4807
  To: ALVIS COLLIER                            Date: 09/15/93  5:55p
Subj: WINWORD CD-ROM WANTED                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

My understanding is the program runs mosttly from the CD ROM, although it does
put a MB or 2 of files on your hard drive -- though not as many as the
traditional disk version.

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From: BILL JONES                             Number: 4808
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/16/93  6:22a
Subj: Re: CD'S                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Sorry Pat but I couldn't let them go for less than $70.00.
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4809
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/16/93  6:09a
Subj: CD Drive problems                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HK> isn't well suited to handling highly packed CDs, or 3) Since it
BJ> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
BJ>Sounds like a Mitsumi. There was quite a "go-round" about them some
BJ>months back about them in this echo.

    Yup. I'm trying to figure out what the problem is before my warranty
    expires. Perhaps I've just got too much stuff crammed into my
    system case and it's overheating a tad..

    Anyway, not a FORSALE topic. So I'll drop this before the moderator
    has to intervene.

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4810
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/16/93  6:11a
Subj: Your Tagline...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HK> * DeLuxe* 1.12 #2986 * All the gnu's wee feet leave prints
BJ>(from a guy who owned a local paint store). You must be an NYT reader.

    Not NYT, but NZT. Old Infocom'er. The above tag was theirs.

- Heather
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4811
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/15/93 11:47p
Subj: BUSTY BABES 1 FOR SALE!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ> MS>  All reasonable offers considered.  Please reply here or:  509-4

BJ>Well, ya' didn't give a cutoff date for bids so this is a bit
BJ>open-ended. I'll give you my (one and only) "reasonable" bid of $50.

Thanks Bob.  Current high bid is $150.  I know it's sort of open-ended.
That's because I've always hated those ads where the "sale ends Sunday
at Midnight!!!".  Just a pet-peeve of mine.  I'll just keep 'er rollin'
until I feel comfortable with the high bid, and then I'll cut it loose.

Still working on getting you some Busty #2's, so don't give up hope. 8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4812
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93 11:47p
Subj: MONSTER CD-ROM LIST 1/2                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....25.50    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
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 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
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 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    Night Owl 4.1.................20.00
 Battle Chess..................25.00    Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
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 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl 8.0.................25.00
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 C User's Group Library........31.00    Original Shareware............10.00
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 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phoenix 3.0 ($6 w/ any order).13.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phoenix 4.0 (New!)............25.00
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 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    Pixel Garden..................34.00
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 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....66.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......77.00
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 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50    ProPhone 1993 Business........29.00
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........27.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Cybergenic Ranger (New!)......27.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........29.00
 Dagger of Amon Ra.............36.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
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 Dinosaurs!....................34.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...42.00
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4813
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93 11:48p
Subj: MONSTER CD-ROM LIST 2/2                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 Firearms Reference (New!).....30.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...55.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...55.00
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 Fresh Arte....................36.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
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 Game Master...................20.00    So Much Shareware 2...........27.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....28.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Software Vault 1..............22.00
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 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    Sound Effects Library (New!)..19.00
 Giga Games (New!).............26.00    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Global Explorer...............93.00    Soundware Collection (New!)...27.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    SoundWAV......................25.00
 Grammy Awards.................36.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Space Quest IV................24.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Grolier's STW Ill. Ency. 2.0..35.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Grolier's STW MM Ency. 5.0....45.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Grolier's STW MPC Ency. 1.5...47.50    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...23.00    Street Atlas USA..............86.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....16.00
 Hamware 1993 (New!)...........28.00    Super Games For Windows.......16.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.00
 House of Games................21.00    Technotools...................13.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..25.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....45.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Jets & Props..................31.50    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00    Total Baseball................27.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    Trump Castle..................28.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S./World Atlas 3.0..........23.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
 King's Quest V................24.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 King's Quest VI (New!)........47.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........23.50    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............34.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    Up All Night Shareware (New!).17.00
 Libris Britannia..............42.00    VGA Spectrum 1................14.00
 Lion's Share..................22.00    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 Loom..........................19.00    Visions of Saturn.............23.00
 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...39.00    Vital Signs...................45.00
 Mac Shareware (New!)..........24.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........35.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Magnum One Shareware..........25.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Magnum Sight & Sound..........25.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Majestic Places...............38.50    World Atlas MPC...............26.50
 Manhole.......................35.50    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mantis........................24.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    World Traveler................15.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World View....................24.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............28.00    World Vision 3-Pak............45.00
 Mega Clipart (New!)...........29.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4814
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93 11:48p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 September 1993           ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST         Last update: 9/15
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
 Adult Reference Library ......29.00    My First Time (Movie).........35.00
 After Dark Trilogy (Movie)....45.00    Mystique of the Orient (Mov)..59.00
 All Beauties (New!)...........33.00    Nightwatch Interactive (Mov)..49.00
 Amateur Models (New!).........35.00    PC-PIX 1......................25.00
 Animation Fantasies 1.........29.00    PC-PIX 2......................25.00
 Animation Fantasies 2.........29.00    Phone Sex (WAV recordings)....27.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Photo Gallery (New!)..........34.00
 Busty Babes vol 1 rel 3.......25.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......29.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Deep Throat (Movie)...........49.00    Porkware 2....................37.00
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......48.00    Private Collection 1..........29.00
 Digital Dreams................28.00    Private Collection 2..........29.00
 Dirty Talk (Movie)............49.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..119.00
 Erotic Encounters 1...........29.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........25.00
 Erotic Encounters 2 (New!)....29.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Extreme Delights (New!).......44.00    SeXXcapades The Movie (Movie).49.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Seymore Butts Interactive (M).49.00
 Girls of Vivid 1 (New!).......45.00    Smutware......................29.00
 Girls of Vivid 2 (New!).......45.00    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hidden Obsessions (Movie).....49.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......33.00
 High Volume Nudes (New!)......36.50    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................29.00    Storm 3.......................28.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................29.00    Super Smutware (New!).........33.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................29.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Hot Pix 5.....................29.00    T&A 2 the Maxx................29.00
 Kama Sutra (Movie)............59.00    Total Fantasy (New!)..........33.50
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 Luscious Ladies (New!)........35.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4815
  To: TYRONE THOMASON                          Date: 09/15/93 11:48p
Subj: U.S. Mail                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TT>Mike, just letting you know that the CD caddies made it.  C'ya on my
TT>next order.

Good.  Sorry for the price differences, but timing is everything in this
ever-changing CD game!  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4816
  To: JAY SHILSTONE                            Date: 09/15/93 11:48p
Subj: PHONE CDS                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JS>I think you are mistaken about the Prophone Business doing what Bob
JS>requested. With the business disk you must enter an SIC code or a

Yes, I know Jay.  I goofed in my advice to Bob, and acknowledged it a
few days later in a corrected message to him.

Take care,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4817
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 09/15/93 11:48p
Subj: BUSTY BABES 1 FOR SALE!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DH> >   DAY  OF  AD:  1
DH> >   HIGHEST BID:  $0

DH>Am sure I will be the highest bidder, and that this was all "made-up" as you
DH>previously stated.  Would you like me to send in my $1.00 now, or wait a
coup
DH>of days?

Well, from the bids I've already received, I guess it wasn't made up after
all.  I was just trying to shake the cobwebs out of this thing to see if it
was real or not.  Looks like we've got a bonafide collectible here!  Go
ahead and send your buck, and keep repeating the process every day for
about a year.  Then we'll talk!  8)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4818
  To: ANDY BILAK                               Date: 09/15/93 11:48p
Subj: BUSTY BABES 1 FOR SAL                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AB> MS> |                                           |
AB> MS> |   BUSTY BABES vol 1 release 1 FOR SALE!   |
AB> MS> |___________________________________________|

AB>I will bid $20.00

Thanks Andy.  Current high bid at $150.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4819
  To: MALCOLM KLEU                             Date: 09/15/93 11:48p
Subj: CD ORDER                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MK>Thanks for the CDs, they arrived safe and sound. I must compliment you
MK>on your excellent service.

Hello down there!!!  Glad to see they arrived safe and sound.  Give a
shout next time around.  8)

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4820
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/15/93 11:48p
Subj: Adult CDs for Trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ> BJ> CS> Super Smutware
BJ> BJ>Never heard of this one. Where'd you get it?

BJ> MS> We have 'em Bob.  Interested in adding this one to your list?
BJ>                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
BJ>Yup. And any other new releases you may get in - same deal. Note: Lee

Gotcha.  Will come with the next batch of goodies.  Supposed to be 1000+
1024x768 ORIGINALS!!  Let us all know if true, oh Great Gif Guru.  8)

Take care,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4821
  To: STEVE GERWECK                            Date: 09/15/93 11:48p
Subj: BUSTY BABES 1 FOR SALE!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SG> MS> All reasonable offers considered.  Please reply here or:

SG>What's reasonable?

Well, from the bids I've received so far, anything over $150 will be
reasonable enuff for me.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MARK GUTT                              Number: 4822
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93  5:36a
Subj: kq6 cd for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the King's Quest 6 CD version for sale.
Its been only used 2 times. Everything is 
original and includes the registration card.
$38.00 which includes shipping.  If 
interested call me at (414) 734-4090.

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From: MARK GUTT                              Number: 4823
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93  5:38a
Subj: ecoquest 1 cd for sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the Eco Quest 1 CD version for sale.
Used less than 5 times. It is an excellent
adventure game. It is one of Sierra's best
efforts for CD games. As with KQ6, it can
be run from DOS or Windows. 
Everything is original and includes 
the registration card.  $34.00 which 
includes shipping.  If interested call me 
at (414) 734-4090.

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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 4824
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/03/93  6:45p
Subj: CD's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Day of the Tentacale         30.00
SpaceQuest IV                20.00
World View                   20.00
So Much Shareware 3          20.00
WindyCity NixPix 5           20.00

Plus shipping   ken 412 793 9152

... Glad To Be Here..
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From: ANDY ST.PIERRE                         Number: 4825
  To: BRYAN BENNETT                            Date: 09/15/93  6:42p
Subj: Re: wanted CD-ROm                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I can get you a NEW Mitsumi Internal CD-ROM for $225.00
Includes:
Interface card, 150k tranfer rate. 350ms access time. 64k buffer. Tell me what
you think
Andy St.Pierre

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From: SCOTT OGILVIE                          Number: 4826
  To: NORMAN                                   Date: 09/15/93  4:45a
Subj: Sound boards & CD ROMs                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NN*Am considering purchasing a Mitsumi CD ROM and am wondering what kind of a
  *sound board to buy with it. Can anyone give me some good advice ?

I'm using the ATI Stero F/X CD card. Sounds great, it is only an 8 bit 
card but when plugged into a ghetto blaster I get great sound. The 
card controls the Mitsumi so you save a slot.

This combo comes bundled together or sold separately.

Scott Ogilvie

 * 1st 1.11 #1764 * There is no problem that cannot be solved by high
explosives
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From: JOHN ROMERO                            Number: 4827
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 09/18/93  1:07a
Subj: An Order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Michellea,
          I ordered some CD's from you the 7th of September.  I was told
that they would be shipped out to me the same day.  I was just wondering
what happen to my stuff.  I sent the money order the next day so you
should have recieved it.  Please let me know if there's any problems.

                             Thanks!
                                    John Romero

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From: JOHN ROMERO                            Number: 4828
  To: AL LEE                                   Date: 09/18/93  1:10a
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Al,
   I will give you $12 for the CD's.  But you have to pay shipping.
  Let me know.
                        Thanks,
                               John

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From: JOHN ROMERO                            Number: 4829
  To: ROBERT KUMMER                            Date: 09/18/93  1:11a
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Robert,
       How much do you want for the adult CD's? Make a good offer and
you will have yourself a deal.  Let me know as soon as possible.

                                  Thanks,
                                         John

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From: JOHN ROMERO                            Number: 4830
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/18/93  1:19a
Subj: Adult cd's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To All,
       I am interested in buying adult Cd's. Anyone out there looking to
sell, just leave me the name of the CD, the price, and your name and I
will get back to you as soon as possible.  Leave your phone number for
faster replies.  I am just starting a collection.


                                         Thanks,
                                                John Romero

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From: DUANE A. FLOYD                         Number: 4831
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/17/93  7:38p
Subj: Where are my CD's??                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Have not received them as of September 17...please follow up on these.
Thanks.

C-Ya!!

Duane

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 4832
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/17/93  7:19a
Subj: Super Games for DOS                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Please provide info on Super Games for DOS
MB, # of files, files.bbs (need name, date, size, desc), catagories,
etc.
Thanks, Randy.


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 4833
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/17/93  7:22a
Subj: BUSTY BABES 1 FOR SALE!                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

I offer $10.00 or can trade 25 3 1/2 hd discs full of xtreme gifs.

Randy Neuner


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 4834
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 09/17/93  7:26a
Subj: SHAREWARE EXPLORER                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How about a price, size mb of the discs, file dates, catagories.
Thanks.

Randy Neuner


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 4835
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/17/93  9:12a
Subj: Re: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Please put me on your mailing list.  Thanks.

Randy Neuner
196 Hughes St
Ft Huachuca, AZ 85613

c/o High Noon BBS

... All I need is a Wave and a board to surf it on.
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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 4836
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/17/93  9:22a
Subj: Mitsumi LU005 problems                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Has anyone else had problems with their Mitsumi LU005 drive?  I have two of
them.  Both worked well for a few months, then one started to fail to
read SOME of my shareware discs.  Sent one back for a replacement, and now
the same problem starts to appear:  Drive light will light up and try
to access (read) the disc but fails to read, just keeps trying and
trying.  Swapping the drives only between the two seemed to fix the
problem, but every now and then the drive on my bbs will not read the
disc for a download.  I called Mitsumi and they are sending a new ribbon
cable.  Any help is appreciated.  Running WC v3.9, 1mb ram, MS DOS 6.
Thanks.

... "What?!? This isn't the Files section?!?"
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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 4837
  To: NICHOLAS O'KRAY                          Date: 09/17/93  9:25a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Catalogs Wante               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Desire any catalogs on CD-ROM shareware discs.
Mailing Address:  RANDY NEUNER
                  High Noon BBS
                  196 HUGHES ST
                  FT HUACHUCA, AZ 85613



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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 4838
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/17/93  9:29a
Subj: Re: MONSTER CD-ROM LIST 1               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Please provide more info on:
Dr Games! (NEW)...$20.00,  I am interested in a games-only cd disc that
has alot of 1993 files, and is bbs ready (EZROM Door) with files.bbs with
name, date, size, desc of the files.  Thanks


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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 4839
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/17/93  5:31p
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris,

Answering a msg of <16 Sep 93>, from Boris Osadciw to Ed Duchek:
here is my #, at the end of the message.  talk to the machine, for I usually
screen my calls.  also best time to call is between 7-9pm weeknights if
possible...  later,


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4840
  To: REBEL                                    Date: 09/17/93 10:08p
Subj: CD Player                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Rebel!

Did you sell the CD Player?

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4841
  To: CARL SLAWINSKI                           Date: 09/17/93 10:10p
Subj: Money/sent                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Carl!

The money is in the mail for the CD's, will be waiting for them, thank's.

Pat

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From: COREY BICCUM                           Number: 4842
  To: KIRK REEVES                              Date: 09/17/93  3:45p
Subj: Hi speed rom drive?                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Yo, you were asking me about the $412 high speed cd rom.  Don't have the ad any
more but it was in a mag and the place was called something like 


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From: NICHOLAS O'KRAY                        Number: 4843
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/14/93 11:35p
Subj: CD-ROM Catalogs Wanted                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NOTE: This message was originally addressed to ALL
      and was forwarded to you by NICHOLAS O'KRAY
                          --------------------
All Vendors,
           I would appreciate anyone who sells CD-ROM software
to please send their catalogs or price lists to the following
address.

Nicholas O'Kray
447 S. Hampshire
Elmhurst Il, 60126


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From: NICHOLAS O'KRAY                        Number: 4844
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93  1:11a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG REQUEST                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To all CD-ROM vendors,
                     If you are a retailer or wholesaler of CD-ROM software
or hardware I would appreciate if you would send me a catalog or any type
of pricing information to the following address.

Nicholas O'Kray
447 S. Hampshire
Elmhurst Il., 60126


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 4845
  To: HANK PETERSON                            Date: 09/14/93  1:39p
Subj: BBSCON                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> LN> I spent 5 days out there with Tony and got to know him.

>    Have you heard about the seizure of Steve Jacksons BBS Illiminati
>    Bulletin Board.  The United States Secret Service seized his stuff
>    and now is very very sorry it did. Federal Circuit Court just awarded
>    Jackson $50,000 spending money, hundreds of thousands in legal
>    expenses and each person who was on his board at the time it was
>    seized will get a $1000. Court said it was a violation of the
>    Freedom of Imformation Act of 1980/86 and the Electronic Privacy
>    Act.  You might want to check this out for yourself.

Old news - to those of us with UseNet newsgroups that carry the misc.eff.talk
confrence (among others) and.or happen to be gamers....

 SJG case set some USEFULL precidents, and should have managed to get the U.S.
Government's attention for a WHILE - but when they got away with the Waco stuff
apparently scott-free....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 4846
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/15/93  4:16p
Subj: DEALER?                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>The vast  majority of CD-ROM prices in the PC magazine ads are outrageously
>high.

Largely the result of "lead time", I suspect....


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4847
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/17/93 12:48p
Subj: CDs to Review                           Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike:

The first package arrived today (Friday 9/17). The box had taken a hard blow
to the top resulting in the jewel case for one of the CDs being badly damaged,
tho' I think the CD is OK.

Here's an update for the list: Remove "Wicked" and "Amateur Models". The
brochures you enclosed were very helpful. Also, I'm really inetersted in the
"Interactive Adult Movie Alamnac" CD, but can't (won't) pay the MSRP of
$129.95. I'm sure you can do better - snail/net mail me your best price,
please.

I'll get to the first CD this weekend. Thanks!

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4848
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/17/93 12:55p
Subj: Whooops!                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Just saw the note at the bottom of the invoice. It's a deal on the Interactive
Adult Movie Guide. Thanks.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4849
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 09/17/93  9:06a
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Oooooohhhhhhuuuuu, beautiful! And my first guess, too. Thanks. 
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4850
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/17/93  9:55a
Subj:  ADULT CD PRICE LIST                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> c) Very tame compared to previous works, but if you like a varie  
                                                                       
  
The next time you talk with the photogs, ask them to consider some 
shots (probably studio) using furs (fake or real) in some of their 
shots. No, this isn't a fetish or anything. I just recall seeing auch a 
layout (no pun) in a Playboy (or whatever) some years back and it was 
very beautiful. Spike heels, rhinestone (I guess) jewelry, and fur coats 
(short and long) worn revealingly. Very classy. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4851
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/17/93 10:02a
Subj:  BBSCon                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> We all fear the same (:--Its sit and wait and see what the Gov't  
                                                                       
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
  
That's the sad part, Lee. It's not supposed to be "the" Gov't. WE'RE 
supposed to be it. Remember "...of the people, by the people, and for 
the people.." Doesn't say anything about "..TO the people..." Sorry Tim. 
EOT. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4852
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/17/93 10:20a
Subj:  CD's for Women                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> We apologize, and we bare our bottoms in shame :)                 
                                                                       
  
I very seriously doubt that your bare bottom is anything to be ashamed 
of, Lee. Of course, seeing would be believing ((:>  GD&R... 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4853
  To: PAUL SWIDER                              Date: 09/17/93 10:24a
Subj: Total Fantasy XXX CD                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PS> Just wondering if anybody has had a chance to check this CD out   
                                                                       
  
Hang in there! I hope to be doing a review of it very soon. Watch for 
the post. 
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON                  Number: 4854
  To: WES HARDIN                               Date: 09/19/93 12:55a
Subj: NEC MULTISPIN - 280MS EXT               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

OK, well get back at me because I am not around too much and we can discuss an
offer...  I hope it is caddyless!!!
TTYL

Chris

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From: GUY OMER                               Number: 4855
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 09/12/93  9:23a
Subj: CDRoms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Eric, 
   Please send CD-ROM list/cost/et al to: 
    
   Guy Omer - 3957 NW 9th CT - Gainesville, FL 32605-4713 
    
   I'm a sysop and am -always- looking for new CD-rom's for the system. I run
SpitFire and -if- the CD-roms have SFFILES.BBS they go online very fast.
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From: GUY OMER                               Number: 4856
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/12/93  9:29a
Subj: ALL NEW CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris, 
   Please be so kind as to send your CD-ROM list(s) to: 
    
   Guy Omer - 3957 NW 9th CT - Gainesville, FL 32605-4713 
    
   I'm a SpitFire sysop and am always looking for new/best CD-ROMs for the
system. Clearly CD's with SFFILES.BBS 'work' best for me <smile>. Price -is-
<drat> important, too.
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From: GUY OMER                               Number: 4857
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/18/93  1:40p
Subj: Catalog - please                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mr. Osadciw, 
    
   Please be so kind as to snail-mail a copy of your hardware/software list(s)
to: 
     
   Guy Omer 
   3957 NW 9th Court 
   Gainesville, FL 32605-4713 (USA) 
   
PS: If possible please 'mark' CD's that are BBS ready for my SpitFire BBS.     
/s   guy
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From: REBEL                                  Number: 4858
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/18/93  1:29p
Subj: Cd rom for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@ORIGIN :Southern Pride BBS 1:151/151                                N I have a
mitsuma cd rom player for sale for 125.00 internal if interested reply here
Eddie Goodman SOuthern Pride 1:151/151


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From: NORMAN                                 Number: 4859
  To: SCOTT OGILVIE                            Date: 09/18/93  9:45p
Subj: Sound boards & CD ROMs                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Tks for the info Scott, have been looking around. No problem getting the CD ROM
but the sound board is scarce. Will keep trying or maybe pick it up on my next
trip to Toronto

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From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                     Number: 4860
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/19/93  2:51a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN> In a message to Lee Noga <09-14-93 23:15> Jean-Claude Demars
LN> wrote:

LN> JD>> LN> BB II is 1000 images licensed to us by the photographer who

LN> c) Very tame compared to previous works, but if you like a
LN> variety of women
LN>    and your a boob man, this disc will sure to please.

do you offer any type of satisfaction guarantee?


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From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                     Number: 4861
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 09/19/93  2:55a
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROMS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RD>           Then I suggest you don't go anywhere near the
RD> AmigaNet CD.  While Simtel-20 has a lot of directories on
RD> it, AmigaNet has 595!

While that might be great for home use, it's just too many for a BBS..  Why
devote a sub-directory and 5 files (FILE.BBS for several different BBSs) when
all that's in it is less then 3 files?


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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 4862
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/17/93 11:23p
Subj: Damar Enterprises                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                      DAMAR ENTERPRISES PRE-ORDER SPECIAL 
                =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 
                      DEALERS, PRE-ORDER THESE TITLES NOW! 
                        -Please call for dealer pricing- 
                     Availability on all titles by October 
                =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 
 
CD PowerBox (version 2.00) - FINALLY the next chapter to the HIGHLY successful 
PowerBox v1.00.  Quietly setting the standard in shareware CD's, the PowerBox 
features a VOICE supported graphical user interface!  This disk has over 630 
megs of the latest in shareware software. 
 
CD OS/2Box (version 1.00) - DEALERS ONLY!  We are now accepting pre-orders for 
the OS/2Box.  This disk is chock full of HUNDREDS of megs worth of OS/2 apps, 
games, utils, drivers, and MORE!  Featuring a Graphical User Interface for the 
OS/2 environment, this is THE disk for you OS/2 folks. 
 
CD GameBox (version 1.00w) - WINDOWS VERSION - this disk is full of JUST
Windows 
based games and gaming utilities.  Titles are as new as September 1993!  A 
graphical user interface makes it quick and easy to both find and/or install
the 
games to your hard drive. 
 
CD GameBox (version 1.00g) - GENERAL VERSION - this disk is full of DOS and
OS/2 
based games and gaming utilties.  Titles are as new as September 1993!  A 
graphical user interface makes it quick and easy to both find and/or install
the 
games to your hard drive. 
 
CD SoundBox (version 1.00) - for all those music lovers, this is a MUST have! 
The SoundBox features MIDI, MOD, VOC, and WAV files.  Included are the latest 
and greatest sound-related shareware software utilities and applications.  Use 
the graphical user interface to check out the tunes WITHOUT installing to your 
hard drive! 
 
CD SourceBox (version 1.00) - have a need for a programmers disk that was 
developed BY programmers?  Look no further!  This disk features HUNDREDS of 
actual source produced by PASCAL, C, and VISUAL BASIC programmers.  We're sure 
your customers will be happy to see this disk! 
 
             Call now to reserve your copies of any of these disks! 
                        Damar Enterprises  510-247-1330 
                            VISA/MC gladly accepted! 
 
 
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 4863
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/17/93 11:24p
Subj: Damar Enterprises                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                                 DEALERS WANTED! 
 
Damar Enterprises is currently looking for dealers to carry its line of 
CD-ROM products.  Mix and match from the comprehensive list of available titles

and get those QUANTITY discounts you need!  Please call to request a dealers 
pricing guide for all of these titles: 
 
                   CD PowerBox v1.01        CD PowerBox v2.00 
                   CD WinBox v1.01          CD OS/2Box v1.00 
                   CD GameBox v1.00w        CD GameBox v1.00g 
                      CD SourceBox             CD SoundBox 
 
    International dealers welcome.  We can provide VISA/MC service for you! 
               Call now to receive a price guide by mail or fax. 
 
                               Damar Enterprises 
                                 P.O.Box 31552 
                                Mesa, AZ  85275 
                             510-247-1330 ext.500 
 
 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4864
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 09/18/93  9:21a
Subj: Re: Adult CD ROM's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Frank Gresh to Bob Jackson <=-

 FG> OK, that was a broad question, in more specific terms..
 FG> SVGA or VGA graphics, 256 colors, hetero, sex and nudity (don't they
 FG> go together), yes I am MPC compatible.

Oooops! Forgot to ask whether you're a sysop or an end-user. It's not a
BIG deal - but each has some unique considerations. If you're a sysop,
i.e. you're looking for a CD to add to your board PRIMARILY so your
users can download GIFs, you'll want a CD whose files aren't likely to
be encumbered by copyright. Not much attention was paid to this in the
past but it's rapidly becomming a REAL issue for sysops. Also, you'll be
looking for CDs which include text file(s) that provide descriptions of
the GIFs.  Experienced sysops may have additional advice for you.

To avoid the copyright entanglement, you MUST stay with some of the
newer releases - i.e. 1993 pressings (tho' that in itself is no
guarantee). Safest bet it to check with the PRODUCER (not distributor or
dealer) to see if BBS usage is OK. To get the descriptive files, the CD
will need to be "BBS Ready" tho' this doesn't have a standardized
interpretation so you may have to do some tweaking to get said files
like you want/need them for your particular system.

If you're and end-user, apart from finding material to your liking -
a very personal choice - you might prefer a CD with a good "front end" -
i.e. a full-featured viewer/manipulator with some navigation
capabilities. For example, some of the more recent offerings have
integrated "point-and-click" catalogs where you can select an image for
viewing from a screen of miniaturized GIFs.

Since you said SVGA/256 color, you'll not be interested in 24-bit color
TIF of TGA files. These are beginning to show up in increasing numbers
of some of the more current releases so one would assume that their
popularity is on the rise.  Accordingly, you can ignore this aspect of
candidate CDs (unless/until you upgrade your video configuration).

You also didn't mention animation files (GL/DL/FLI, etc.) nor the
so-called "interactive" CDs - tho' you did say you're MPC compatible
indicating perhaps some interest. Not being an aficionado of such
files/CDs myself, I'll leave this for someone else to fill in for you.

Bottom line: If this is your first adult CD, give "Busty Babes Volume 1,
Release 3" a try.  It's GIFs are a bit dated, but it covers ALL of the
above bases - sysop and end-user alike. It can be had from dealers in
this echo for about $25-$30. It has a wide range of subject matter and
the BEST user font-end going (IMHO). Also, watch this echo for
upcoming new releases as some producers hang out here as well. Other
readers may have their own recommendations for you as well. Hope this
helps. Cheers!



 FG> Hope this helps, and someone can head me in the right direction, seems
 FG> like soooooo many CD's, so little time (well money too).  Thanks, any
 FG> help from anyone would be appreciated
 FG> -!- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff083/x]
 FG>  ! Origin: The GIFfer in Tampa, FL USA (813)969-1089 USR 16.8DS
 FG> (1:377/50) 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4865
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 09/18/93  9:24a
Subj: Re: TAM Review - Addendum               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Arnie Gross to Bob Jackson <=-
 AG> The original review never came through here!  Would you
 AG> please repost this?  Thanks.

Arnie - I haven't been keeping electronic copies of my reviews but I do
have paper copies of them all. If you'll send me your snail mail
address, I'll gladly send you one.

 AG> By the way, I don't recall anyone thanking you properly
 AG> for contributing these reviews.  They have saved me hours of
 AG> browsing and, due to the subject matter of these discs, also
 AG> prevented me from going blind <g>.....


Thanks for the kind words! There've been a few others and I really
appreciate them all. It's fun, but it's also work! Ciao!

... "Could you continue your petty bickering? I find it most intriguing."
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4866
  To: GERALD RYCKMAN                           Date: 09/18/93  9:57a
Subj: Re: Adult CD ROM's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Gerald Ryckman to Frank Gresh <=-
 GR> never like them. I love G to R-rated pictures better. I look at
 GR> photography rather than pornography.
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm pretty much this way myself.

 GR> Why they suck??? Well, first of all, the 2 swimsuit disks contain

<text deleted> Very succinctly said!


 GR> 1 more worth mentioning but minor problem....Erotic Encounters Volume
 GR> 1. It contains mostly XXX-rated pictures and over 250 corrupted,
 GR> unreadable GIFs.
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yeah, I got stung in a trade on this one, too. The SOB that did it ran
like hell.

 GR> because they  contain alot of those series of DS-F (DataShack), NLR/NLG
 GR> (Nitelog  Imaging), LADYR/LDYR (Garlique), PICR/PICG (Prizm), and a
 GR> whole lot  more R-rated Playboy Magazine type of pretty babes. But

We *DO* have similar tastes!

 GR> then, they  also contains quite of bit of those lousy Garby's Lounge,
 GR> NightHawk,  and Laura's Lair amateur XXX-rated photos and alot of other
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I agree! Some of the worst!!

... Not tonight, dear.  I have a modem.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4867
  To: GREG ISOKRARI                            Date: 09/18/93 10:01a
Subj: Re: Adult CD-ROM                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Greg Isokrari to All <=-

 GI> I am looking for a couple of adult CD's...  However I would like some
 GI> discriptions first.  I am looking for a CD that has gifs with
 GI> everything form R-XXX, everything that is but gays, animals, bondage,
 GI> or any of the really demented stuff...

Try Busty Babes Vol.1 Rel. 3

... Blue Wave! Not just for FIDONet anymore!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4868
  To: HANK PETERSON                            Date: 09/18/93 10:10a
Subj: Chat echo?                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Hank Peterson to Lee Noga <=-
 HP> lessons  from him?  Thanks for the feed back. I am a old hand with
 HP> XXX rated videos (used to have coffee with John Holmes at a drive
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You're a guy I think I'd like to get to know better. I'm sort of a
laymay (no pun) student of the industry, myself. Interested in the
people, process, etc. more than the products. Would you care continue in
a more suitable "chat" echo?

 HP> got rid of my electric skillet and now fry my eggs on the Texel
 HP> when Busty Babes is running.       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ROFL !!

... Go straight to the docs.  Do not pass GO.  Do not collect $200!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4869
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/18/93  6:15p
Subj: Review of STAREware                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  First, many thanks to Mike Shannon of Starvector for providing a copy
  of STAREware for review.  Mike is one of those "special" dealers who
  believe that CUSTOMERS come first.  He proves this day in and day out
  in many ways - by allowing us CUSTOMERS to get a look at CDs before
  purchasing them; by allowing returns for unsatisfactory merchandise;
  and by being an active participant in this echo. Thanks again, Mike!

  This review is broken up into several posts and contains three major
  sections: Statistics - the quantitative, measurable characteristics
  of the CD; Operations - a more qualitative analysis of the
  "usability" aspects of the CD which tries to consider factors of
  interest to both the sysop and the end-user; and Visual - a purely
  qualitative opinion of the intrinsic qualities of the images
  themselves.  Note that section boundaries are not inviolate.  To
  those of you whom have read some of my previous reviews of adult
  CDs, you will be familiar territory with this one as well.  If
  you're a "new" reader, let me iterate: What follows is ONE PERSON'S
  OPINION.

  I have a few general comments I'd like to make about STAREware (SW)
  and not feeling that any other place is more appropriate, I'll make
  them here.

  First, there is no identified producer of SW on the jewel box
  inserts or the CD itself. No names, no addresses - nothing that
  would tell you where this CD came from.  Some of the more current
  releases (e.g. from Florida Lion's Den) come with full
  identification and even warranty/registration cards.  This probably
  isn't very important in the overall scheme of things, but when *I*
  make something I'm proud of, I put my name all over it. I can't help
  but wonder if there's a correlation here.

  Secondly, the jewel inserts are pretty primitive and more
  cartoon-like than one would expect for a CD of this type.  While the
  front insert is mildly amusing, it doesn't compare to the inserts
  for Southern Beauties, for example.  What I liked the least was that
  the edges of the back insert are blank. When the cases of such CDs
  are stored edgewise, there's no clue which CD is which.  This makes
  it more difficult to pick them out of a stack.

  Statistics
  ==========

  Examination of SW revealed 2441 GIFs and 14 TGA files.  The GIF
  files are of various resolutions, but mostly 640x480, with the
  exception of the HIRES directory where the 800x600 and up GIF and
  TGA files reside (all 142 of them).  The GIFs average 176,659 bytes
  in size - somewhat large for 640x480 resolution but explained by the
  fact that the many of the files are full-screen in size.  The GIF
  files in HIRES average 327,022 bytes each; the TGA files about
  580,923 bytes each.  The TGA numbers are low because they're 15-bit
  color, not 24-bit color.

  I found only three pairs of duplicated files on the CD. A VERY low
  number. However, when compared to my GIF name data base, there were
  1647 "hits".  The hit distribution was as follows:

      Seedy 6-Pak   1012            7th Heaven      3
      BB/R1          123            BB/R3         130
      Ecstasy        111            FAO-2         313
      FAO-3          339            FAO-Gold      167
      PCPIX-1        656            PCPIX-2        18
      PCPIX-3          1            Visual Fan.   143
      Pork-1         126            Storm-3       157

  Of the 794 non-hit names, 660 were found to have the dash character
  "-" in the file name.  Notwithstanding the fact that the ISO 9660
  standard isn't supposed to permit this character (so I'm told),
  there it was! When these "-" were changed to the underline character
  "_" and the file names re-checked, an additional 473 hits were
  recorded. Of the remaining non-hit files, visual examination
  (admittedly an "iffy" process) resulted in only about 85 files being
  identified as "new" - i.e. not appearing in any of the comparison
  CDs.  Bottom line: SW's GIF files are pretty much the same
  collection that can found on most any of its contemporaries.

  In addition to the GIFs and the TGA files, there are small
  collections of animated GL, DL, and FLI files as well.  The GL/DL
  files number about 75-80 while there are 16 FLI files.  More on
  these in the Operations and Visual sections.

  Operations to follow...

... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4870
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/18/93  6:16p
Subj: Review of STAREware (con't)             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Operations - Sysop
  ==================

  The GIF directories on SW are more or less divided up by "R" and "X"
  ratings.  The directories are named respectively R01-R04 and
  X01-X11. Files within each rating are divided alphabetically across
  the directories. Additionally, there's the HIRES directory with a
  mixture of subject matter.

  To say that there are file description listings on SW is a bit of an
  understatement.  There are three sets of descriptions in each of the
  directories: FILES.BBS, FILES.LIS, and DESC.CD.  FILES.BBS is the
  "expanded" type of listing in that file sizes and dates are included
  as follows:

         Item            Starts in col
         ----            -------------
       File Name               1
       File Size               15
       Date Stamp              24
       Description             34

  The FILES.LIS (identical with the DESC.CD files) adheres to the
  original "FILES.BBS" format of a file name beginning in column 1 and
  a description that starts in column 14.

  Additionally, there's a directory named FILELIST where a collection
  of files with names corresponding to the directories resides.  These
  files also have the "expanded" format file lists in them.  But hold
  on - we're not done yet! There is also a file in the root directory
  called STARE.TXT which contains descriptions for all the files on
  the CD in the "expanded" format, but divided up by textual "header"
  lines that precede each directories descriptions.

  More importantly than file descriptions, in one of the "help" files
  (more on these later), there is the statement: "Collected from a
  variety of sources, these GIF pictures are believed to be
  uncopyrighted and public domain. They were chosen as the best from
  the thousands we reviewed...all fun & no work!"  That statement
  notwithstanding, several images had names that suggested otherwise
  (e.g. PCAL0690 - Playboy calendar June 1990). Others clearly carried
  embedded text from sources (e.g. Event Horizons) known to copyright
  their material.

  Bottom line for sysops: Caveat emptor!

  Operations - End User
  =====================

  Outside of a small advisory concerning DL files on the inside from
  cover, there's no installation instructions for the CD. A totally
  naive user would be lost about where to begin. Even the XMENU
  program (see below) doesn't offer any clues until you try to run it
  the first time. A little more attention to these aspects would have
  been helpful and appreciated.

  Nonetheless, SW contains several features that end users will
  appreciate. To begin, in the root directory are three programs
  called, respectively, XHELP.EXE, XPRINT.EXE, and XMENU.EXE.  Each is
  a standalone program that can be run from the CD itself, certain
  conditions having been met.

  XHELP provides additional information about the CD, the files on it
  (e.g. the quoted remark above), etc. It has a menu of 6-7 items, all
  of which can be viewed/read in a few minutes.

  XPRINT has the ability to print out any of several files, notably
  the FILES.BBS files.  Selections are likewise from a menu. A printer
  is required as there is no provision to indicate an alternate
  destination.

  XMENU is potentially the most useful as it provides for file
  selection from a DIR-like listing.  A copy of the required VPIC
  viewer is included on the CD but it must be copied to a HDD
  directory in the DOS path, and it must be pre-configured for your
  video setup.  Those conditions being satisfied, XMENU will let you
  navigate the CD's directories and choose images or animations for
  viewing.  There are, however, some limitations.

  First, XMENU demands VPIC - it doesn't work with any other viewer. I
  suppose you could try to fake XMENU out by installing another viewer
  and naming it "VPIC.EXE" - I didn't try that.  Secondly, XMENU seems
  to lock VPIC in 640x480 mode. I have VPIC version 6.0g and it works
  quite well with my S3 board up through 1024x768x256 and 640x480x16M
  modes.  I couldn't find any provision for accessing the higher
  resolution modes through XMENU. Viewing aside, XMENU is Spartan in
  its offerings. It can copy a selected file to the HDD, and pressing
  the spacebar at the menu will call up the highlighted file's
  description at the top of the screen, but that's about it. There's
  no image manipulation, no slide show, AND all functions are keyboard
  only - no mouse support.

  XMENU will also run the GL and the FLI files for you from the CD.
  DL files must be copied to the HDD before they can be viewed. (This
  advisory is on the inside front cover of the jewel case and was
  spoken about earlier.) It's worth noting that all the DL & GL files
  on SW are repeated THREE times. The DL and GL files are in the
  DLFILES, DLPLAY and GLFILES, GLPLAY directories, respectively. In
  the ??FILES directories, each animation appears in both ZIP format
  and a self-extracting EXE format. In the ??PLAY directories, the
  files are in an uncompressed state, ready to use. (Note: the few FLI
  files are in with the GL files.) Surely only one of each file (of
  ANY type) would have been sufficient. Go figure.

  Bottom line for end users: XMENU is better than nothing, but just
  barely. In a world of SHOWOFF and GIFReed, it's an anachronism.

  Visual to follow...

... This BBS has achieved Air superiority.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4871
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/18/93  6:17p
Subj: Review of STAREware (con'c)             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Visual
  ======

  If you own virtually ANY other adult CD, you've been here before.
  While the images are, as previously stated, generally large (e.g.
  many are full-screen in size), they're also replete with BBS ads,
  etc. Don't get me wrong; SW isn't a "bad" CD, it just doesn't have
  anything new or different to offer. Its images are the same
  (literally) as everyone else's and its user front end is all but
  nonexistent. If you don't have any other CD, there are better ones
  to start with - like Busty Babes with the SHOWOFF front end.  BB's
  images may be a bit tired, too, but SHOWOFF is state-of-the-art!

  As for the animated files, the news is the same.  There doesn't seem
  to be much interest in the industry to make newer files of these
  types. Perhaps the full-blown "interactive" CDs have made them
  obsolete. Whatever the reason, if you're looking for some fresh
  DL/GL/FLI titles, you won't find them here.

  A couple of additonal notes on the animated front: First, the GL
  file OBSESSED is in its own directory and plays flawlessly from the
  CD.  While this may seem a small thing, the other copies of OBSESSED
  that are in the GL directories don't.  OBSESSED isn't a new
  animation, but it's one of the more interesting ones, artfully
  mixing text and stills into a complete story - not just a bunch of
  endlessly repeated images. Secondly, there is a directory named
  CINDY wherein an animation resides that REQUIRES SoundBlaster
  support. I don't have that on my system so I couldn't test it out.

  The TGA files are 15-bit color and, while they don't duplicate any
  of the GIF images, they aren't anything special either.  In fact, at
  least a few of them are recognizable as old GIF files that have been
  converted to Targa format.

  Bottom line: SW belongs in the class with PorkWare II and that ilk.
  Unless your a adult-GIF history buff and want to add to your
  collection (as some have suggested might be wise given the attention
  to copyrights of late), take a PASS (yes, I spelled it right) on
  this one.

... It said "Insert disk #3", but only two will fit!!
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4872
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 09/18/93 11:49a
Subj: Mitsumi LU005 problems                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN>Has anyone else had problems with their Mitsumi LU005 drive?  I have two of
RN>them.  Both worked well for a few months, then one started to fail to
RN>read SOME of my shareware discs.

    I'm having this same problem presently. And that reminds me.. I need
    to call the vendor's tech person today. Mine handles most of my disks
    fine (commercial stuff from Toolworks, AutoCAD, MS Cinemania, etc.),
    but hiccups on two of the Adult CDs I've tried recently. Have had my
    drive for about 9 months now. No idea yet what's causing it to be
    persnickety, but the symptoms are as you describe... It'll be reading
    the problem disk just fine, then for some reason it'll hang and just
    whirr for awhile before giving me an error message. If I reboot the
    machine a few times, or come back later, it may work just fine... and
    even read the file(s) I was having trouble with before. Hmmm...

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4873
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 09/18/93 12:28p
Subj: RE: Toshiba Q's                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>    Hmmm... I guess I shouldn't tell him about all the cat hair I
>    get inside there, eh?    ;-)
DK>Heheh.....probably be a good idea to wait and let him find out when he
DK>starts taking the computer apart....hopefully,he hasn't got any
DK>allergies<grin>.

    Well, he wouldn't be doing the work... he lives elsewhere. He'd just
    send the stuff and I'd work on it. But I could always send him some
    internal dust bunnies as a thank you.

    Anyway - off topic! I'd best end this before the moderator does. :-)

- Heather
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From: BILL CARPINONA                         Number: 4874
  To: DONNIE RAYNOR                            Date: 09/07/93  3:12p
Subj: PROBLEM with CD ROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Donnie Raynor was caught throwing tomatoes at All <=-

 DR> Hi,
 DR> I was wondering if any could shed some light on a problem that is
 DR> about to drive me crazy? I bought a new Mitsumi internal CD-Rom and
 DR> installed it in my 386/40mhz IBM clone. I have a SBPro sound board
 DR> installed and am using the controler board that came with the Mitsumi
 DR> to run the CD-Rom drive. O.K. this is where it gets strange. After
 DR> installing the drive it worked great. Then all of a sudden it just
 DR> quit working, when I would go to access the drive the busy light will
 DR> light up but nothing happens. At that point I  have to boot the
 DR> system. I can remove the controller and reinstall it and it will start
 DR> working again. The drive will allow me to use it a couple of  times,
 DR> then sooner or later when I access the drive the busy will light up 
 DR> and just stay lit. The only way I can get the drive to turn lose of
 DR> the CPU  is to boot it. 
 DR> If anyone has any ideas on this one please respond.
 DR> 

First, have you checked you IRQ settings?  If they're the same as your sound
card, it's a conflict.  Look on the boards of both, if the IRQ settings are
the same, that's the problem.

Hope that helps,

Bill C.


... My other computer is a VAX.
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From: GEORGE SCOTT                           Number: 4875
  To: STERLING PRICE                           Date: 09/18/93  6:46p
Subj: Re: sick                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 17 Sep 93  06:16:00, Sterling Price spewed the following on George Scott:

GS> and I don't have
GS> any CD's for the BBS yet :)

SP>     Hi, George.  I'm really looking more for a trade on this disk (Physical
SP> Therapy),  but if I don't get any trade offers on it within a few days,  I
SP> will probably accept your offer.  I will respond on this echo.
SP> 
Wonderful, your CD is what I am looking for (basicly!) and withen my price 
range.

Thanks

George 
1:202/1521

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From: MICHAEL GIUNTOLI                       Number: 4876
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/16/93  9:11p
Subj: Re: Mm encyclopedia                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Boris i currently have a Sb-Pro one of the first pro's to hit
the market. Not the new Sb16 the old one. It says in the manual that
i need a Matsushita model CR-521 CD ROM. Can you help me. I have
seen the new 522 model drives for the sb16. But i need a 521 to work
with my old SBPRO. If you can get em. How much? including shipping.
                Lemme know asap
                                
                        Michael
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4877
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 09/18/93  4:33p
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Mark!

16 Sep 93, Mark Johnsen writes to All:

 MJ> Greetings All, I have a copy of Asian Ladies I'd like to trade, currently
 MJ> interested in Southern Ladies or 7th Guest (with or without video).  I'd
 MJ> also consider trading the disc and some $$$ for Mystique of the Orient.
 MJ> Thanks in advance!  =:)

I have 7th Guest with viedo, it's new our CD player to slow to use it. Will
trade for Asian Ladies and $15. 512-939-9822 or reply here, I wiil pay
shipping.

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4878
  To: GREG ISOKRARI                            Date: 09/18/93  4:39p
Subj: Adult CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Greg!

16 Sep 93, Greg Isokrari writes to All:

 GI> I am looking for a couple of adult CD's...  However I would like some
 GI> discriptions first.  I am looking for a CD that has gifs with everything
 GI> form R-XXX, everything that is but gays, animals, bondage, or any of the
 GI> really demented stuff...

 GI> I would also like to get an interactive game of some sort...  I have a
 GI> SVGA 1024-768, but I like a vesa driver (If anyone has a vesa driver for
 GI> Oak Technology I would love to call long distance and get it from you)...
 GI> Make that lack a vesa driver.  So no SVGA unless I get that driver
 GI> something funny that is above the PG-13 level.....

Have Busty Babes #1, won't get no more XXX than this. 512-939-9822

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4879
  To: ROBERT KUMMER                            Date: 09/18/93  5:20p
Subj: CD's Buy                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Robert!

Did you sell the cd's? LOOKING for some to buy. Call 512-939-9822 or please
reply.

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4880
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/18/93  6:01p
Subj: BUSTY BABES #1 FOR SALE                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hello Mike!

17 Sep 93, Mike Shannon writes to All:

 MS>                 ___________________________________________
 MS>                |                                           |
 MS>                |   BUSTY BABES vol 1 release 1 FOR SALE!   |
 MS>                |___________________________________________|

 MS>                          - All offers considered -

 MS>   This is the one all the controversy is about!  Flawless example with
 MS>   original jewel case and covers.  No smudges, no cracks, no scratches.

 MS>   -+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+---

 MS>   DAY  OF  AD:  6
 MS>   HIGHEST BID:  $125

 MS>   All reasonable offers considered.  Please reply here or:  509-457-2892.

 MS>   BONUS OFFER:  I will include a brand new BUSTY BABES vol 2 release 1
 MS>                 with this CD at NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE, to the highest
 MS>                 bidder.  This all new edition of Busty Babes should be
 MS>                 ready by late September, so if Busty #1 sells before it
 MS>                 is released, we will ship separately when available.

I have BB#1 also was wondering if you know any one that would be interresred
in it will take trade's, thank's
Pat

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From: NICHOLAS O'KRAY                        Number: 4881
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/16/93  6:48p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All,
         I currently have available the following titles:

         Title                       Price                    Available
************************************************************************
1.) Game Master                     $ 15.00                        5
2.) Business Master                 $ 15.00                        5
3.) Education Master                $ 15.00                        5


         All of the above CD-ROMS are brand new and have never been
opened. If anyone is interested in any of these titles for the quoted
prices plus shipping and handling please feel free to give me a call
between the hours of 8:00am and 3:00pm CST at (708) 530-1323.



*****NICK*****
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From: MICKEY POSH                            Number: 4882
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/18/93 11:46a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES 1 FOR SALE!             Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

How about $60.  Explain a bit about the game and more could be in store if 
it's what I'm looking for!  <G>

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From: BILL ALEXANDER                         Number: 4883
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 09/18/93  7:06p
Subj: Re: CDRoms for sale                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Eric,

They are just what I wanted.Thanks!

Later

Bill

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From: MICHIAL THOMPSON                       Number: 4884
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/19/93 10:31a
Subj: CD Rom For Sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello all!

I have a CD Rom drive that I wish to sell,  It is new in the box, I have never
installed it, in fact it is still under warrenty.
it is a Tandy CDR 1000, with the updated drivers.  I am asking $180.00 for it.
The drive looks identical to a Mitsumi, and is actual made by the same company.


Michial

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From: ANDY BILAK                             Number: 4885
  To: BILL JONES                               Date: 09/18/93  1:18a
Subj: Re: FOR SALE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-* Quoting what Bill Jones said to Andy Bilak on 09-15-93  06:26 *-

 > What about $10.00 + $300 shipping for the swimware 93.  I am short  
 BJ> That would be ok with me but I don't think you meant it that way.

 BJ> How about $14.00 plus $2.00 shipping.

Okay, i like your prices better...heheh... Give me the address to
send the money order and my address to.


... Sir, it looks like the individual took a drill to the Hard Drive.
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From: BILL JONES                             Number: 4886
  To: BILL WOLFORD                             Date: 09/18/93  1:49p
Subj: Re: SWIMWEAR 93                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Sorry Bill but all the CD's are gone.
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4887
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 09/18/93 11:56p
Subj: NEW CD-ROM TITLES GALORE                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DS>Hi Mike,  I had ordered some things from Doug Carpenter (Aug. 3) and nothing
DS>has come yet.  I have left him numerous messages asking him When or if he's
DS>even got my money order yet and the date of shipping he shipped my money
orde
DS>  Do you think you could get him to answer these to for me?  Because I have
DS>also called his answering system twice and left messages on there and I have
DS>not YET had a reply.

Not sure what I can do Darren.  I think your best bet would be to contact
the Psychic Network and have them page Doug for you.  8)  Seriously though,
you should try him either in the morning, or late afternoon because Doug
works during the day. (I believe)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4888
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/18/93 11:56p
Subj: DARREN SELLNER                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DS>Hi Mike,  I had ordered some things from Doug Carpenter (Aug. 3) and nothing
DS>has come yet.  I have left him numerous messages asking him When or if he's
DS>even got my money order yet and the date of shipping he shipped my money
orde
DS>  Do you think you could get him to answer these to for me?  Because I have
DS>also called his answering system twice and left messages on there and I have
DS>not YET had a reply.

HEY DOUG!!  Darren wants me to tell you to reply to him pronto!  What's the
deal with his order??  You're not buying lottery tickets with those money
orders again are you?

<<Geez, this middleman stuff sucks>>

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4889
  To: KIRK REEVES                              Date: 09/18/93 11:56p
Subj: <> CD-ROM TITLES & MORE <               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KR> DS> I Kirk,  I had sent my money order to Doug Aug. 3 of
KR> DS> this year.  Nothing has come yet. So I would advise you
KR> DS> to wait.

KR>Thanks for the warning.  So far I haven't brought anything from him.  Still
KR>shopping for the best price.

Whatcha looking for Kirk?  Maybe I can help.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4890
  To: KIRK REEVES                              Date: 09/18/93 11:56p
Subj: Adult Cd-rom Disk 4Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC> KR> Would you be willing to sell me Asian ladies, Mystique of the Orient,
DC> KR> and the seventh guest you said you were selling for 39.  all together
DC> KR> for an even hundred?

DC>Nope..sorry.

I'll do it.  Just add 4 bucks for shipping.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4891
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/18/93 11:56p
Subj: BBSCON                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>BF>>  Also, Lee likely has forgotten more about the case by now than you
LN>BF>> currently
LN>BF>> know, as she (and I) both had some longins conversations with Tony at

LN>Whatcha' mean I have forgotten ? I have not forgotten anything, and I am
well
LN>versed on the subject--Did you mean to use the word 'Forgotten' in lieu of
th
LN>word 'Gotten'--I will retract my claws pending the answer :)

Probably used as in "I've FORGOTTEN more about how to drive a car than
you'll ever know, Sonny!!"  You know Lee - a figure of speech.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4892
  To: ROEL SARCENO                             Date: 09/18/93 11:56p
Subj: BUSTY BABES 1 FOR SALE!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RS>Will you accept $55 for Busty Babes Vol1 - Rel1?

Sorry Roel.  Current high bid is $125.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4893
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/18/93 11:56p
Subj: BRAND NEW CD-ROM TITLES!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #1:  NEW CD ARRIVALS   |
           |____________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

 5-STAR PREMIUM WINDOWS * Latest Windows shareware + 950 OS2 files!.....$27
 AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK 93/94 * New release. 11,000,000 businesses.$39
 ARIZONA IMAGES * Fabulous photos of the Arizona desert country.........$25
 COLOR MAGIC CLIPART * 600 megs. of 3-D color clipart.  Royalty-free....$27
 DINOSAURS! * Fabulous interactive, multimedia Dinosaur directory on CD.$48
 DR. MUSIC * Brand new offering loaded with sound and music files.......$20
 DR. GAMES * Hours upon hours of gameplaying mayhem! BBS-Ready..........$20
 DR. SHAREWARE * Just another shareware CD? No - this one's excellent!..$20
 DR. WINDOWS * Games, utilities, productivity, business, it's all here..$20
 FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$30
 GAMEWARE COLLECTION * Over 6000 of the all time best games! BBS-ready..$24
 GIGA GAMES * Brand new from Walnut Creek. Set up for 6 popular BBS's...$26
 KING'S QUEST VI * Newest in the KQ series. Better than 7th Guest!......$47
>LEARNING HEAVEN * Mind challenging educational games...................$23
 MICROSOFT BOOKSHELF 1993 * The latest CD-ROM reference library.........$58
 MICROSOFT GOLF * Multimedia Golf game that is "on par with reality"....$58
 PHOENIX 4.0 * Finally - An update to 3! Very clean CD with fresh files.$22
 PHONEDISC USA * Summer '93 edition w/ 80 million residential listings..$69
 PINACOTHECA M/M * Multimedia presentation of classical paintings.......$24
 PRECISION MAPPING 1.5 * Newest release! Detailed street-level map......$77
 REEL CLIPS * 600mb of royalty-free digital video clips.................$39
 SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
 SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 * Brand new w/ pure 1993 files! The NEWEST s/w CD!.$35
 SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD * Totally new shareware w/ no dupes to Vault 2!....$25
>STRAIGHT FROM HEAVEN * Great new religious CD w/ several online Bibles.$23

                    Adult Titles (must state age 21+)
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 AMATEUR MODELS * All original images of young models. BBS-ready........$35
 BUSTY BABES 3.0 * Newest release of top-selling disc. BBS-ready........$25
 DEEP THROAT * CD version of the famous adult flick. Truly a must-see!..$49
>DIGITAL DANCING * Interactive adult "game". Watch her strip for you!...$48
 DIRTY TALK * Full-color, full-motion video w/ adult film stars.........$49
 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2 * Sequel to release 1 with fresh, new images.......$29
>EXTREME DELIGHTS * Adult CD w/ a twist: Still pix with sound files!....$44
>HIGH VOLUME NUDES * 500 high-quality hardcore photos of centerfolds....$36
 KAMA SUTRA * Indian documentary adult film w/ narration................$59
 LUSCIOUS LADIES * Hot new adult .GIF CD with outstanding cover art.....$35
 MYSTIQUE OF THE ORIENT * 600mb movie featuring Oriental beauties.......$59
 PHONE SEX * Actual .WAV file recordings of 900-number conversations....$27
>PHOTO GALLERY * "Penthouse" type photos shot by J. Stephen Hicks.......$34
 SEYMORE BUTTS INTERACTIVE * Fantastic new "interactive" adult film.....$49
>SUPER SMUTWARE * A full CD of never-released GIF's, all 1024x768.......$33
>T&A 2 THE MAXX * Just what it sez - lots o' T & A......................$29
 TOTAL FANTASY * Newly released .GIF disc from Denmark..................$33

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4894
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/18/93 11:56p
Subj: SHAREWARE ONLINE #2!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |  Title:  SHAREWARE ONLINE #2  |  |   Price:  $35   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

     This outstanding new CD is the ABSOLUTE NEWEST and MOST UP-TO-DATE
     shareware CD available!  All files are dated 1993 with the exception
     of five program sets, giving you a full array of late-release
     shareware, dated between January and August 1993!

     * Fully BBS ready with file listings in six different formats,
       including FILES.BBS, for use with virtually any BBS system.  File
       lists are in every directory, and also a master text directory.
     * No dupes to release 1.
     * 623mb total occupied disc space.
     * 4200+ total files.
     * Improved Shareware Online file retrieval system.
     * All files dated 1/93 to 8/93.
     * Separate directory of ANSI pictures for sysops.
     * File listing available:  ONLINE2.ZIP @ 509-457-0206 (V.32bis)

     Don't be fooled by the lower file count on ShareWare OnLine.  ONLY
     QUALITY PROGRAMS are included on this disc.  Very few text files and
     "junk" which makes file numbers high...

       MASTER DIRECTORY INFORMATION FOR: ShareWare OnLine Vol. #2

     DIRECTORY NAME     # OF FILES     TOTAL DIR SIZE    AVERAGE FILE SIZE
   -----------------------------------------------------------------------
       \ANSIPIC              24           2,689,465           112,061
       \ARCHIVER             41           4,172,687           101,773
       \BBSDOORS            112          17,553,296           156,726
       \BBS_SOFT            228          26,881,458           117,901
       \CAD                  42           6,270,163           149,290
       \CLIPART              75          18,175,874           242,345
       \COMM1               198          18,774,740            94,822
       \COMM2               162          22,958,736           141,721
       \DATABASE            128          20,790,364           162,425
       \DEMOS                85          45,597,484           536,441
       \DESK                 33           6,753,341           204,647
       \EDUCATE              68          11,723,020           172,397
       \ELECMAIL             95           8,681,269            91,382
       \FINANCE             127          26,224,848           206,495
       \GAMES1              221          31,420,660           142,175
       \GAMES2              209          27,878,576           133,390
       \GRAPHICS            121          21,256,628           175,675
       \HAM                  35           3,103,623            88,675
       \HOBBY                53           9,630,653           181,710
       \INFOR               177          10,400,453            58,760
       \LINUX                30          29,337,500           977,917
       \MISC                139          21,399,340           153,952
       \MUSIC               184          33,523,012           182,190
       \NETWORK              43           6,746,650           156,899
       \OS2                 124          21,254,494           171,407
       \PICTURE             282          45,412,660           161,038
       \PRINTING             24           3,185,427           132,726
       \PROG                 90          12,857,472           142,861
       \TRUETYPE            277          15,218,836            54,942
       \UTIL1               184          16,319,479            88,693
       \UTIL2               112          12,274,360           109,593
       \VIRUS                25           3,063,903           122,556
       \WIN1                168          22,268,988           132,554
       \WIN2                144          23,869,468           165,760
       \WORD                155          15,094,726            97,385
   ------------------------------------------------------------------
   T O T A L S:           4,215         622,763,648           147,749

Special offer:  Get Shareware Online 1 AND 2 for only $55!  Best of 92/93.
                >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4895
  To: JOHN ENGLAND                             Date: 09/19/93 11:04a
Subj: For sale-mitsumi                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello John!

18 Sep 93, John England writes to All:

 JE> For sale:
 JE> -+--+--+-
 JE> (ONE) Mitsumi internal CD-ROM drive. CRMC-LU005S. Excellent condition.
 JE> Only a few months old, with box. Make an offer ! (ONE) Panasonic KX-P2124
 JE> 24-pin dot matrix printer. Letter quality, super quiet. Excellent
 JE> condition. Only a few months old. Make an offer ! (ONE) Soundblaster Pro
 JE> (basic). Excellent condition. Make an offer !

Offer $130 for CD player call 512-939-9822 we can talk price need one for
Grandma!

Pat

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From: WES HARDIN                             Number: 4896
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/19/93  1:04a
Subj: NEC MULTISPIN - 280MS EXT               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm sorry but I've already had an offer of $425, and more seem to be coming in
so I turn down your offer of $110, but If you want to rebid please feel free
to.
Thanks, Wes Hardin.


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From: SAM BECKWITH                           Number: 4897
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/19/93 11:34a
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DFW Discount Electronics       09/19/93        Orders: 800-829-0331
                                               Local : 214-254-0331
CD-ROM Price List                              BBS   : 214-259-4188

   * = Indicates file listing available for download via our BBS

CD-ROM Drive   
~~~~~~~~~~~~   
  Mitsumi Int. CD-ROM 350ms Kit w/adapter (non-SCSI)        193.00 

Shareware      
~~~~~~~~~      
* CLIPART GOLIATH (4/93 by Chestnut): Over 11,000 PCX, TIF, $15.00 
  and many other formats. For most desktop publishing      
  programs.                                                

* DR. GAMES (6/93, BBS Ready, by Aces Research, Inc.):      $19.00 
  Adventure, Arcade, Card Games, Chess, Flights, Puzzles,  
  Simulators, Sports, Strategy, Tetris, Wars, Windows      
  Games, and much more.                                    

* GAMES 1993 (4/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago Computer Broker): $19.00 
  Over 6,000 files including Apogee games, unprotects,     
  tips, Tetris clones, lotto, casino, sports, VGA arcade,  
  Flight Simulators.                                       

* NIGHT OWL 9 (6/93, BBS Ready, by Night Owl Publisher):    $27.00 
  Great disc!                                              

  PC SIG 12 (3/93, by PC SIG): Latest in the PC SIG series. $22.00 

  PC-SIG WORLD of WINDOWS (8/93, by PC SIG): Over 350       $22.00 
  Windows programs, over 2,000 sounds, over 900 truetype   
  fonts, over 10,000 icons, files are for use directly from
  CD (uncompressed).                                       

  PHOENIX 4.0 (8/93)                                        $21.00 

* SCI-FI FANTASY (4/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago Computer      $25.00 
  Broker): VGA pics including Star Trek, Star Wars,        
  Fantasy, D&D, Creatures, Conan & much more.              

* SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 (7/93, BBS Ready, by Power User       $25.00 
  Software): 650MB, VGA Arcade Games, Home & Hobby,        
  Graphics, Clip Art, Sound Files, Finance, OS/2, Windows, 
  Fonts & much more.                                       

* SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD COLLECTION (9/93, BBS Ready, by       $29.00 
  American Databankers): Over 6,000 files, over 590MB.     
  File areas include: top software hits of 1993, Windows   
  apps and games, business, utils, programming, BBS        
  programs, and much more.                                 

* SHAREWARE April 1993 (4/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago         $19.00 
  Computer Broker): 5,000 files, games, sounds, Window,    
  utils, education, finance.                               

  SHAREWARE OVERLOAD: Over 6,100 files, Games, MS Windows,  $11.00 
  Business, Clip Art, Education & much more.               

Clip Art       
~~~~~~~~       
  GIFs GALORE: Over 5,000 full color GIFs and viewers for   $19.00 
  MS-DOS, Macintosh, Amiga and Unix.                       

Game           
~~~~           
  KINGS QUEST V                                             $16.00 

  KINGS QUEST VI                                            $33.00 

  LOOM: LucasArts' truly unique fantasy graphic adventure,  $22.00 
  You play the role of a young weaver in the Age of the    
  Great Guilds.                                            

Reference      
~~~~~~~~~      
  FAMILY DOCTOR: Over 1,500 of frequently asked medical     $26.00 
  questions, approx. 300 color medical illustrations, names
  & addresses of support groups/education resources,       
  complete data on over 1,600 prescription drugs.          

Sound          
~~~~~          
  ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUND: 211 WAV sound effects files, 13    $14.00 
  WAV music clip files, 7 full length musical scores, VOC  
  sound effects, sound players and utils, SoundBlaster and 
  Adlib compatable.                                        

    DFW Discount Electronics - PO Box 177617 - Irving, TX 75017
     Prices and availability subject to change without notice
               <<< Call us for items not listed >>>

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From: TERRY WHITEHEAD                        Number: 4898
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/19/93  1:11p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris,
I have talked to you several times on the phone.( and order 3 cd's)
Anyhow i just got a Pioneer DRM-600 6 disc changer . (second hand for a steal)
I need a scsii card adapter? and a cable .... Let me know what you have and
price please.
TW


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From: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                       Number: 4899
  To: DAVID SMITH                              Date: 09/19/93 10:28a
Subj: Night Owl v10 Pre-Release               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello David!

In a message to Jeff Collingwood <09/18/93> David Smith wrote:

DS> Could you put me on the mailing list for that newsletter?

DS> David T. Smith

Sorry, no, you sent this to the wrong person.
...Jeff...

 * WCE 1.10/2020 * MONEY TALKS ...   but all mine ever says is GOODBYE!


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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4900
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 09/19/93  7:57p
Subj: Problem w/Groupware Tech                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ismail- I wonder if you might assist me with a drive problem I'm having. I
bought a Mitsumi LU005 from you in December '92. It has been acting up for
about a month now, and I'm unable to get relief from either Mitsumi tech
support or from your Groupware part-time tech support person.

After running for awhile, the drive will begin having problems with disk
access, whirring repeatedly, and finally giving me the following error
messages (at various times):

    CDR101: Not ready reading drive E
    Abort, Retry, Fail

    File read/write error -
    Drive may be open or disk unformatted

    CDR103: CDROM not High Sierra or ISO-9660 format reading drive E
    Abort, Retry, Fail

In all cases, it had been working fine with the inserted disk for awhile,
but then crashes. After failing, the drive will refuse to read any other
disks (software or audio) for awhile, then seems to straighten itself back
out after the system is rebooted a few times with no disk in the drive.

Please note that I HAVE tested for conflicts by booting the system with
clean boot-up files and no TSRs, but the problem persists.

The two disks which seem to have given it the most headache are adult
shareware disks: Smutware, and Ecstasy Hot Pics. I suspect that these are
causing problems because they have a higher density of files than other
disks which I've had no problem with (misc Toolworks things, Cinemania,
Graphics Works, Time Almanac). Several people have indicated that the
Mitsumi seems to have problems with such disks at times if it's not
functioning quite right.

I downloaded the latest Mitsumi drivers from CompuServe and contacted the
Mitsumi tech support department. They had me make a couple of changes to my
CONFIG.SYS driver line, but with no change in the problem. After that, they
indicated that it must be a problem with the disk or drive. I've tried the
disk in another (non-Mitsumi) drive and had no problem. They suggested that
I contact the vendor where I purchased the drive (ie: you).

I've tried SEVERAL times to resolve this with your tech support department.
The first time, he indicated that there was nothing he could do unless I
sent my system to your location so they could test the drive in it. Right.
Like I'm going to package up an otherwise functional, loaded tower system
and expect it to be functional when it returns...

Thinking it might be the disk, I returned the first one in exchange for the
second. When I called your tech person again, he indicated (rightly so) that
he couldn't do anything unless I had a disk which could recreate the error.
So I waited until receiving the second disk. When it caused problems too, I
tried calling back, only to be told that the tech person wasn't in and that
they'd have him call me. No call. I called back several days later and was
told that he only works part-time in the evening. I called again yesterday
(Saturday) and was told that he was *supposed* to be in, but wasn't, and
they expected him any time now. Left name and number again for him to call.
As of this evening, I have heard nothing back.

Since this drive is still under warranty, I want to have it fixed or
replaced as soon as possible so that I can adequately test the repaired or
replaced drive before my warranty expires. I am unable to get this taken
care of over the phone, so I will leave a message for you here, and will
forward a copy via USPS and/or FAX to the Groupware office. Please contact
me as soon as possible; on this conference, by mail, or by phone:
        PO Box 11319, Kansas City, MO 64112-0319
        (Work)  913-888-5201 ext.257  (M-F 8a-4p Central time)

For your reference, the date of invoice was 12/03/92 and the order number
was 764.

- Heather
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From: JAMES DESOTELLE                        Number: 4901
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/19/93  2:37p
Subj: Chemisty CD Wanted                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am searching for a chemistry CD that has all the elements and its
properties, or something simuliar.  I am not sure if one exists or not
but if you know any info on this, or where I can get one please let me
know.  Reply this net or call at (701)-780-0930.  It is very important!

Thanks
James

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From: SAL PEDONE                             Number: 4902
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 09/20/93 12:33a
Subj: Wanted comptons                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Anyone have Compton's MPC encyclopedia for sale?
-> used, that is?
-> leave mail...

  Have one thats been opened and looked at once...v1.01W Compton's
  MM Ency for Windows...Asking $35 shipped if prepaid...Let
  me know....Sal  912-956-5163  6pm-9pm EST


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From: MICHAEL TROXELL                        Number: 4903
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/17/93 11:41a
Subj: Re: Adult CD ROM's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> On 15 Sep 93  09:53:00, Bob Jackson said to Frank Gresh 
 concerning Adult CD ROM's           <=-

 FG> Just curious, and looking for a few recommendations...I would li  
 FG> know what folks consider as their favorite adult CD, I've just o  
 BJ> 
 BJ> 
 BJ> Too broad of a question (pardon pun). What kind of subject matter are 
 BJ> you looking for (e.g. nudity or sex; if sex, what kind - hetero or
 BJ> ???)  and what kind of files (e.g. GIFs, animation, text, movies)?
 BJ> You'll need  to consider you hardware configuration as well (or what
 BJ> you're willing  to upgrade it to if necessary). Can it do SVGA? Above
 BJ> 800x600x256?  24-bit color? Do you have a sound card? Are you
 BJ> interested in multimedia  CDs? Think about these questions for a while
 BJ> and then re-post your  inquiry. I'm sure you'll find some help here
 BJ> then. Cheers!  -!- FreeMail 1.07b

I have a request.  What is the best
 1. Hetero [read Jill not John]
 2. Nudity [Not offended if some sex on it], Playboy style.
 3. GIFs, JPG [much smaller files], optional movie/animation

I can do 24bit in 640x480 and 256c upto 1024x768. I have a sound card and
have an interest in a multimedia style presentation.  I have an LU-002
mitsumi and haven't had any problem reading CDs [except ones with encoded
audio tracks {BattleChess MPC}] but I've heard of problems with mitsumis
reading 600+mb disks.  Any adult CDs fall into this category?

I don't own any adult CDs but would like to own one that is well made.
Image quality is paramount [no bad quality scans, etc...].  I'd prefer one
with 24bit scans and/or one with 1024x768 256c scans.  JPEGs would be a
plus [especially if compressed from 24bit originals].

Any votes for something in this range?

Mike

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4904
  To: REBEL                                    Date: 09/19/93  9:49p
Subj: Cd rom for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Rebel!

18 Sep 93, Rebel writes to All:

 R> @ORIGIN :Southern Pride BBS 1:151/151                                N I
 R> have a mitsuma cd rom player for sale for 125.00 internal if interested
 R> reply here Eddie Goodman SOuthern Pride 1:151/151

have tried to net mail you about CD player but no luck. Is it still for sale?
If is please call 512-939-9822 or leave address where to send money.

Pat

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From: JOEL COX                               Number: 4905
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/19/93  6:26p
Subj: NEED CD ROM DRIVE!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I need very cheap, cd-rom drive. If it was used it would make no difference to
me as long as it works... I have A 10 Meter HAM radio, that I would either sell
for $$ or trade for the cd-rom drive. All interested reply here. <JOEL C>

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From: CATALINO ALVAREZ                       Number: 4906
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/19/93  1:52p
Subj: Buying CD-ROM titles                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone who has some CD's for sale please either leave a message or call
(407)282-8827.  If you would like send me a catalog to
348 Chutney Dr, Orlando FL  32825-3612.
I am looking for Games and Adult CD's.
Espeacialy looking for 7th Guest.

THANX
CAT 
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From: STEPHEN GUPTON                         Number: 4907
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/19/93  2:22p
Subj: Mitsumi LU005 problems                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Sep1914:22, Heather Krause of 1:280/333@FDNET.ORG writes:

RN>Has anyone else had problems with their Mitsumi LU005 drive?  
RN>I have two of them.  Both worked well for a few months, then 
RN>one started to fail to read SOME of my shareware discs.

 HK>     I'm having this same problem presently. And that reminds me.. 
 HK> I need
 HK>     to call the vendor's tech person today. Mine handles most of 
 HK> my disks
 HK>     fine (commercial stuff from Toolworks, AutoCAD, MS Cinemania, 
 HK> etc.),
 HK>     but hiccups on two of the Adult CDs I've tried recently. Have 
 HK> had my
 HK>     drive for about 9 months now. No idea yet what's causing it 
 HK> to be
 HK>     persnickety, but the symptoms are as you describe... It'll be 
 HK> reading
 HK>     the problem disk just fine, then for some reason it'll hang 
 HK> and just
 HK>     whirr for awhile before giving me an error message. If I 
 HK> reboot the
 HK>     machine a few times, or come back later, it may work just 
 HK> fine... and
 HK>     even read the file(s) I was having trouble with before. 
 HK> Hmmm...
     I have encountered no problems with mine in the 6 months they have been
up, perhaps you just got a bad one.

 -=Stephen=- 

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 4908
  To: BRIAN BOURNE                             Date: 09/19/93  9:51a
Subj: CD-ROM for Sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BB>I have "The San Diego Zoo Presents: The Animals" (The Windows Version).  Thi
BB>disc in still in the shrink wrapping.

BB>I will sell it for $20, no tax.

   I will offer $12 including shipping.

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ This feels like deja vu all over again!


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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4909
  To: WES HARDIN                               Date: 09/20/93 11:02a
Subj: NEC MULTISPIN - 280MS EXT               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Wes!

19 Sep 93, Wes Hardin writes to Pat Rickerson:

 WH> I'm sorry but I've already had an offer of $425, and more seem to be
 WH> coming in so I turn down your offer of $110, but If you want to rebid
 WH> please feel free to. Thanks, Wes Hardin.

Don't know to much about the CD Player's. I just wanted a cheap CD player for
son, guess this one is really not one of those cheap one's.
Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4910
  To: BILL JONES                               Date: 09/20/93  3:03p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Bill!

Sent money order off today, you should get it by Thrusday or Friday, can't
wait to get them. Thank's

Pat

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From: THOMAS ALLRED                          Number: 4911
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/19/93 10:49p
Subj: driver for bsr 6800mx                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

i was wondering if any one had a copy of the software driver for the
external bsr 6800mx cd rom driver i have the drive but no driver if any
one has i copy i could buy i would really appreciate it
my home number is 989-1473 please call if you have the driver

thanks


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From: JAYSON NOTARO                          Number: 4912
  To: ANYONE OUT THERE!                        Date: 09/20/93  2:25a
Subj: Looking for CD-ROM DRIVE!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone who has a Cd rom drive for sale please leave me some mail on this system
or something!
Highest price $225.00 please!--------I have a limited budget!----------


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From: RAVAGE SUPREME                         Number: 4913
  To: ROEL SARCENO                             Date: 09/19/93 10:34p
Subj: HACKER?                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RS>Hacker Chronicles - Need more info please.  Does this CD pertains to bad
RS>users or does it tell you how to maximize the use of your computer?


This disk contains the following areas of information:

Phone Phreaking (so called hobbyists who are into telephone technology
of all types, well known for their ability to bypass telephone billing
systems), Computer Hackers (sometimes refered to as Cyberpunks,
interested in access to any online computer systems they can find),
Satellite Communications (hobbyists who sometimes employ test software
designed for dealers to defeat scrambling systems).  "Underground"
General Information (many subjects all very technical in nature and
explained in detail, such as; ATM's, credit cards, voice mail,
hypnotism, bugging, skip tracing, phone taps, cellular phones, lock
picking, social engineering, virus's, chemical substances, EXPLOSIVES,
editorials, legal issues, alarm systems, spies, HARDWARE, signal
interception, private investigation, security, computer ethics,
underground BBS's, TV cable piracy, boxing, and much more!)

WARNING

The material on this CD is controversial in nature and may be offensive
to some users.  Note that the information in and of itself is not
illegal, quite often (ALOT OFTEN), the USAGE of certain information
on this disc IS ILLEGAL.  The HACKER CHRONICLES is for informative and
educational purposes only.  All documents and programs in this
compilation were legally available to the public prior to this
publication.  None of these criminal acts described on this disc are in
any way condoned or should be attempted.

___This is close to the info printed on the back of the case label.
Hope this helps you out in deciding if you want it or not.  If anything,
It is well worth it for the knowledge content.  Hell of a lot better
than any encyclopedia I have seen as far as computer information is
concerned.

Over 12 years in the making - The HACKER CHRONICLES - A Tour of the
computer underground.

Al James

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From: MICHAEL GRAHAM                         Number: 4914
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/18/93 10:18a
Subj: Encyclopedia                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone sale an ENCYCLOPEDIA on CD for BBS's to work in a DOOR.
(DOOR.SYS)

If not this would be a good idea for someone to work on.
It would be nice if users could look up a subject, read it, and if
needed, to have it zipped up to be able to download it. No need for PICS
or SOUNDCARDS, Straight TEXT/ANSI/@ANSI@. Would be nice it it would
work for multi-line systems also.

Other cd's for BBS's would be great. Such as Reference Librarys,
National Phone Books, ect...

This would help make BBS's more then just files, mail, and door games.


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From: JOHN LITTLE                            Number: 4915
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/19/93 11:29a
Subj: Trade for CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have 3 ethernet cards that I would like to TRADE for some CD-ROMs.  I
am looking for Shareware/Windows/Wav/OS2/Adult disks.
The cards are 3c503 8 bit cards (coax/AUI) and are still shrink wrapped
in their original packages.  They come with a lifetime waranty from
3Com.  These Etherlink II cards are compatible with every NOS on the
market (including Lantastic AI).  Only looking to trade these cards, not
sell them.

John Little (leave a message here).
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From: JOHN LITTLE                            Number: 4916
  To: JOHN ENGLAND                             Date: 09/19/93 11:34a
Subj: Sb pro-compatible cd-rom                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JE>someone offer some advice ? I have a SB-PRO sound card and a Mitsumi
JE>CRMC-LU005S CD-ROM drive. Is it at all possible to NOT use the drive's 16-bi
JE>card and just use the SB-PRO's CD-ROM adapter ??? If this is NOT possible,
JE>which drive CAN it be done with and what are the specs/prices ? Any help wou
JE>be greatly appreciated ! Thanks !
It would be cheaper to swap that sound card than your CD-ROM drive.  I
know of 2 cards that support the 005S directly.  I am using the Sound
Pro FX (16 bit, SB Pro II, Adlib, Covox, and Disney compatible, runs
Mitsumi 005S or Panasonic CR521/522 CD-ROMs directly on the card).  Got
it for $149.95 Canadian, so it should be about $125 US.  Works great!
John Little
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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 4917
  To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                       Date: 09/20/93  1:35p
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROMS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Jean-Claude,

 > While that might be great for home use, it's just too many for a BBS..
 > Why devote a sub-directory and 5 files (FILE.BBS for several different
 > BBSs) when all that's in it is less then 3 files?

          I tend to agree, but then it DOES add some interest, to my BBS, for
Amiga users.  I am currently running AmigaNet, Simtel-20, Libris Brittania,
Night-Owl-9 and Cica-Windows on the system with "others" for the more mature
audience.  The system is located on +358-0-5062622 if you are interested but
it's subscription only from next month.

Moderator apeaser:

          Simtel-20 and Cica-Windows (both are previous releases) for sale.
best offer....


                                                   Cheers,

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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 4918
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/07/93  3:05p
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4919
  To: HANK PETERSON                            Date: 09/19/93  8:55a
Subj: Re: CD's for Women                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Hank Peterson to Heather Krause <=-
 HP> I found the same thing on Busty Babes too. In one section that
 HP> had 15 pages, only about 10 would work properly the rest would
 HP> send me a message that they don't exist when ShowOff tries to
 HP> bring then up. If you find the answer, please let me know.
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

SHOWOFF doesn't/can't display them because the GIF isn't really on the
CD, just in the catalog. My unconfirmed suspicion is that a few GIFs
were deleted at the last minute AFTER the catalogs had already been
generated. Recall, this release (#3) was brought out, at least in part,
to assuage some problems with copyrights. Discretion being the better
part of valor, probably some last minute deletes were made. Some
examples that would seem to fit this paradigm are the L_TERRI0 through
L_TERRI8 GIFs in the BUSTY4 directory. The model is Teri Weigel:
ex-Penthouse Pet and current XXX actress. She/Her studio probably owns
all the rights to all of her images making it kinda "iffy" (to say the
least) to put them on a CD. Ask Lee Noga...

... The last thing I saw was this Big Blue Wave!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4920
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/19/93  4:27p
Subj: Review of EE2                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Many thanks to Mike Shannon of Starvector for providing a copy of
  the adult CD Erotic Encounters 2 for review.

  This review is broken up into several posts and contains four major
  sections: General - Miscellaneous comments that didn't seem to
  belong in any other section; Statistics - the quantitative,
  measurable characteristics of the CD; Operations - a more
  qualitative analysis of the "usability" aspects of the CD which
  tries to consider factors of interest to both the sysop and the
  end-user; and Visual - a purely qualitative opinion of the intrinsic
  qualities of the images themselves.  Note that section boundaries
  are not inviolate.

  To those of you who have read some of my previous reviews of adult
  CDs, you will be familiar territory with this one as well.  If
  you're a "new" reader, let me iterate: I am NOT an expert (whatever
  that is) on adult (or any other kind of) CDs.  Accordingly, what
  follows is ONE PERSON'S OPINION.

  General
  =======

  The front jewel case insert of the review issue Erotic Encounters 2
  (EE2) is bears a picture of a very lovely lady in lingerie and a
  Mardi Gras-style mask.  Besides the title, this cover also has a
  ridiculous price printed on it plus the curious phrase "Banned in
  the USA".  How can that possibly be true? I certainly didn't get
  this copy from the underground or black market!  Looks and sounds
  like just so much more "Madison Avenue" hype to me. There is also an
  anonymous warranty registration card pre-addressed to Clayton, CA
  (another curiosity) promising a $20  gift certificate (for what
  isn't stated) if the registration is returned.  Most unusual, a
  second card is included to be redeemed for a FREE CD-ROM from
  another anonymous address, this time in Columbus, OH.  The free
  CD-ROM ($2 for shipping) is identified as "PC Paramedic(tm)
  Diagnostic CD-ROM" (sic) supposedly a $79.95 value. Some brief text
  is included regaling its capabilities.  Another $15 is solicited for
  a "CD-ROM Surprise grab bag" - returnable if not completely
  satisfied.

  The back jewel case insert has several proclamations of its own.
  There is a bold warning to the effect that the pictures contained on
  the CD are sexually explicit and shouldn't be viewed by those
  offended by such material.  There is a one-line "installation
  instruction" which proved mostly accurate.  There is a statement of
  requirements - PC compatible and a 512K VGA video.  There is an
  identification of the CD's producers as Peek-A-Boo Entertainment in
  Chicago, IL - which is why I called the other addresses "curious".
  In other CD's, notably those from Florida Lion's Den and Graphical
  Images of Florida, all included correspondence is pre-addressed to
  them, not some third-party go-between. Personally, I LIKE knowing
  whom I'm doing business with.

  Most questionable is the statement: "This is not your average adult
  CD-ROM disk!" As we shall see in the Statistics section, this
  statement is open to interpretation.

  Finally, the producers DID put titles on the edges of the back
  insert so that identification of the CD in a stack or while the
  jewel case is stored on its edge is possible.  Thank you Peek-A-Boo.

  Statistics to follow...


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4921
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/19/93  4:27p
Subj: Review of EE2 (con't)                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Statistics
  ==========

  Tabulation of EE2's GIFs totaled 3323 usable pictures, counting
  neither the "catalog" GIFs (more on these in Operations), nor the 8
  miscellaneous GIFs in the MENU directory.  The requirements
  previously mentioned as stated on the back cover are generally
  adequate as MOST of the GIFs are 640x480x256 (or thereabouts).
  However, there are a number of 800x600 resolution GIFs and even 63
  (by actual count) 1024x768 GIFs.  A 512K video board won't handle
  the latter ones without "panning" (see Operations).  The GIFs
  average 152,890 bytes each - a healthy size for a 640x480 GIF.

  I found NO duplicated files through examination of either file names
  or file sizes.  That doesn't guarantee there aren't any, just that
  my processes didn't detect any.  It's worth saying that several GIFs
  with names other than what I was accustomed to associating them with
  were found on EE2. That is, there's been some re-naming along the
  way somewhere by somebody.

  Comparison of EE2's file names to the ones in my GIF name data base
  was, shall we say, revealing.  For the first time, I got a 100% hit
  count!  That is to say, there was NOT ONE SINGLE FILE NAME on EE2
  that wasn't already represented by one or more other CDs in the data
  base.  Sort of calls into question the producers' statement about
  EE2 not being an "average" adult CD.  In my opinion, as far as the
  GIF selection is concerned, "average" is an understatement.  EE2
  does have redeeming qualities - more on this in Operations.

  The hit list from my data base comparison was as follows:

         Seedy 6-Pak     3219       7th Heaven          4
         BB1/R1           131       BB1/R3            108
         Ecstasy          102       FAO-2             276
         FAO-3            382       FAO-Gold          262
         PCPIX-1          358       PCPIX-2            13
         PCPIX-3           26       Visual Fan.       129
         Pork Ware I       67       Storm-3           257

  Note that there were only 104 (3323-3219=104) files on EE2 NOT found
  on one of the six CDs in Seedy ROM 6-Pak. Now while some may say
  that it isn't fair to compare a single disk with a set of six, let's
  remind ourselves that Seedy has been out for several months - EE2 is
  a current release.  For a "new" CD to replicate 97% of the files on
  an older (by at least several months) CD represents a classic case
  of re-hashing.

  Operations to follow...


... I know a good tagline when I steal one.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4922
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/19/93  4:28p
Subj: Review of EE2 (con't)                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Operations - Sysop
  ==================

  There are 31 directories on EE2: "0" through "Z" hold the GIFs where
  the directory name represents the first letter in the GIF name (save
  "0" where all files whose names begin with a number are stored).
  Additionally, there is the CATALOG directory where all the "catalog"
  GIFs are; the MENU directory where the GIFReed program resides along
  with its support files; the TEXT directory where the text file
  descriptions are (text file names are d.BBS where "d" is the
  directory name - filename.GIF in column 1 and descriptions beginning
  in column 15); and the VIEWERS directory where other GIF viewers and
  graphics tools programs are in ZIP format.  The VIEWERS directory
  also has a FILES.BBS file except it's the "expanded" type which
  includes file sizes and date stamps.

  Given the above and what I've picked up by reading this echo, I'd
  guess one could call this CD "BBS Ready" from a mechanical
  standpoint if the file description files' format suits the sysop's
  needs, or can be made to do so.

  The back jewel box insert makes a statement to the effect that the
  producers believe the GIFs to be free of copyright entanglements.  I
  leave it to the sysops to judge the efficacy of that statement given
  the 100% hit ratio mentioned in the Statistics section.

  Operations - End User
  =====================

  To begin, the reverse side of the front jewel box insert is stamped:
  "MS DOS 6.0 Notice:" A poorly printed (i.e. faint on the review
  copy) statement follows saying that the ASSIGN command is required
  but not included with DOS 6.0 and therefore DOS 6.0 users may have
  to use an alternate viewer.  This notice was hidden by the inclusion
  of the warranty card and the "free CD" card mentioned earlier.  I
  suppose it's reasonable to assume that the purchaser would find this
  notice sooner or later, but it seemed to me to be a weak attempt to
  inform the user of potential problems.

  That warning notwithstanding, I followed the instruction to log to
  my CD drive and type "INSTALL". This brings the immediate response
  that two parameters are required. (Recall, I said in the General
  section that the installation instructions were MOSTLY correct.) One
  has to specify the drive letters of the CD drive and the
  installation drive.  The net result of a successful installation is
  that a customized EROTIC.BAT file is written to the \DOS directory
  of the installation drive. Since the \DOS directory is VERY likely
  to be in the DOS path, entering "EROTIC" from anywhere will start
  things rolling.

  Now about that ASSIGN warning...I run DOS 6.0 and while its "help"
  facility denies knowing anything about this command, the installed
  .BAT file works flawlessly. Others may not be so lucky. I'm no DOS
  guru so I can't offer much in the way of explanations.

  Here's where the fun begins!  The ONLY thing (in my opinion) that
  would keep EE2 from being your "average" adult CD is the file
  viewer/manipulator that INSTALL activates.  It's a shareware version
  (4.12) of GIFReed - one of the new breed of point-and-click front
  ends for image-oriented CD. (SHOWOFF on Busty Babes V.1/R.3 and GDS
  are other examples.)  This is the viewer that I panned in my review
  of Digital Dreams some weeks back.  Well, either the producers of
  EE2 knew how to use GIFReed better, or this is an updated version,
  or something, but results this time are MUCH improved in certain
  sectors.

  To begin on a positive note, the catalog images (remember the
  CATALOG directory?) are considerable larger and much clearer, likely
  thanks to heavy anti-aliasing during their generation. Secondly,
  only about one inch of screen real estate is hogged by a repetitious
  (and still useless IMO) title, not almost half a screen as with the
  case of Digital Dreams.

  Secondly, while I probably didn't fully explore the GIFReed on
  Digital Dreams, this version seemed to have more functionality.
  There's lots of image manipulation functionality and of course the
  point-and-click interface is state-of-the-art.  This is a slick,
  mouse-driven interface, folks.  It's hard to imagine any function
  that 99% of the users would want that isn't already included (at
  least in the registered version). Of particular note to those with
  only 512K video systems (recall, there's a number of 1024x768 images
  on EE2), panning large images is a no-brainer.  After getting the
  image on the screen, just push and hold the left mouse button and
  the image is "grabbed" such that it follows all mouse movements -
  QUICKLY!  This is a MUCH better and easier to use method than the
  usual arrow-key or PgUp/PgDn methods supported by a lot of viewers.

  Now for the gripes: The included shareware version of GIFReed is too
  crippled to permit a full evaluation before registering it.  There
  are no less that five annoying beeps or messages at EROTIC.BAT
  startup, PLUS a repeating beep/notice from GIFReed every time a
  directory of more than 25 images is selected.  Further, the
  "NON-REGISTERED" notice on the screen (common in shareware)
  F-L-A-S-H-E-S constantly when anything but a image is on the screen.
  Most annoying, which I suppose is its purpose, but also
  self-defeating if it's meant to encourage me to register!

  Since this is a holistic review of EE2, I don't want to concentrate
  on this shareware version of GIFReed too much. Still, it's worth
  saying that if a shareware author wants ME to evaluate his efforts
  with an eye towards purchase/registration, don't give me a crippled
  version to look at.  The very thing that's left out or disabled
  might be just the function I'm most interested in, and the author
  will miss out.  I register shareware I use because it's fair and
  because I want the benefits of registration like technical support,
  new release notices or versions at reduced costs, etc.  I DON'T
  register shareware to get functionality that should've been there in
  the first place.

  (Setting soap box aside)

  Visual to follow...


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4923
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/19/93  4:30p
Subj: Review of EE2 (con'c)                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Visual
  ======

  Well, here we go again - how do you spell "re-hash"?  E-r-o-t-i-c
  E-n-c-o-u-n-t-e-r-s 2, that's how.  Image-wise, this CD has nothing
  going for it that LOTS of other CDs of its kind don't have, but
  nothing against it either that they don't also have: tired images
  full of BBS ads, and perhaps some questionable copyrights.  There're
  no animated files, nor any text "story" files which some of its kin
  have - whether this is a blessing or a curse is up to each purchaser
  to decide.  What EE2 DOES have is GIFReed and this nifty product
  (judged by the version and catalog images on the review CD), can
  make looking at even tired images a more pleasant experience.

  The images are, by and large, good clear scans - many of which are
  full- or near-full screen in size.  If you've seen virtually ANY
  other adult CD, certainly any of the comparison CDs, you'll
  recognize the works of the BBSs that produced them, (that's the good
  news) if not the images themselves (that's the bad news).

  Bottom line:  Check the hit list again. If you don't have any
  apparent high duplication ratio with any of the comparison CDs you
  may already own, EE2 is not a bad purchase if for no other reason
  than to get a look at GIFReed and a "free" CD.  If you already have
  Busty Babes V.1/R.3 (and therefore SHOWOFF), you may want to
  reconsider.  The two programs (GIFReed and SHOWOFF) aren't identical
  by any means, but they both are paving the way to the future in user
  front-ends for image CDs.  BTW: a thorough head-to-head comparison of
  the full-blown versions of each of these two fine programs would be
  worth reading if one had the means, time, and inclination to perform
  same and tell us all about it! Any takers???


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4924
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/19/93  8:29p
Subj: Review of Girls of Vivid #1             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Many thanks to Mike Shannon for providing a copy of the adult CD Girls
  of Vivid - Volume 1 (GOV1) for review.

  This review is broken up into several posts and contains four major
  sections: General - Miscellaneous comments that didn't seem to
  belong in any other section; Statistics - the quantitative,
  measurable characteristics of the CD; Operations - a more
  qualitative analysis of the "usability" aspects of the CD which
  tries to consider factors of interest to both the sysop and the
  end-user; and Visual - a purely qualitative opinion of the intrinsic
  qualities of the images themselves.  Note that section boundaries
  are not inviolate.

  To those of you who have read some of my previous reviews of adult
  CDs, you will be familiar territory with this one as well.  If
  you're a "new" reader, let me iterate: I am NOT an expert (whatever
  that is) on adult (or any other kind of) CDs.  Accordingly, what
  follows is ONE PERSON'S OPINION.

  General
  =======

  This CD is the product of Vivid Digital, apparently a separate
  marketing arm of the adult movie company called Vivid Video.  This
  CD's  packaging is as slick as it gets. The front insert is folded
  double - the outside providing and interesting cover while the
  inside does some marketing for other Vivid Digital products. There
  is also a warranty registration page. The back insert has system
  requirements (stated as a minimum of a 386-20 with 2Mb RAM, VGA
  monitor, DOS 5.0 with 2 Mb expanded memory, and a 100% SoundBlaster,
  AdLib, or MediaVision sound card, and a mouse).  These requirements
  are incomplete and are an understatement to say the least, as we
  shall see in Operations.  Interestingly enough, this CD is supposed
  to be Macintosh-compatible as well. Minimum Mac requirements are
  given as a 68020 CPU, 2Mb RAM, 16-bit video and monitor, and System
  6.x or 7.x.

  There is a one-line installation instruction which is mostly
  correct. Finally, the edge of the back inserts shows the title of
  the CD making it easy to identify in a stack or when stored on its
  edge. Thanks, Vivid, for this small but much appreciated touch.

  Statistics to follow...

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4925
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/19/93  8:30p
Subj: Review of GIrls of Vivid #1 (Con't)     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Statistics
  ==========

  The GOV1 CD is unlike any other adult CD I've seen. All 505 of its
  images are in compressed TIF (CTIF) format. In all they occupy some
  636,687,610 bytes making their average size about 1,260,768 bytes.
  This is an important point, as we shall see.

  There are 15 directories on GOV1, 13 for the CTIF images, one
  (ASCII) for the file descriptions, and one (INSTALL) that holds the
  viewer programs before installation.

  There was no need to look for duplicates nor to make a comparison
  against the GIF name data base.  The files in each of the 13 CTIF
  image directories are simply numbered 1.TIF, 2.TIF, etc.  While
  there's not an equal number of files in each directory, arithmetic
  tells us that there are about 40 images in each one - though some
  have over 50.  At any rate, this is a relatively unimportant matter.

  The directory names are apparently shortened forms of already
  released Vivid Video adult movies. Examples are: ARMYBRAT, TORRID,
  and ENDLESS to name a few.  Again, this is of little or no
  consequence in the full scheme of things.

  Operations to follow...

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4926
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/19/93  8:31p
Subj: Review of Girls of Vivid #1 (con't)     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Operations - Sysop
  ==================

  This is a null topic for several reasons, the most obvious being
  that all of this CD's images are copyrighted by Vivid Digital and
  therefore extremely unlikely to be legitimately usable on a BBS.
  That aside, the single file description text file in the ASCII
  directory is practically worthless being in a completely foreign
  format, not even within shouting distance of FILES.BBS.  Finally
  there's the matter of the images being in CTIF format. Few viewers
  are available which can decode and display a compressed TIF image.
  BBS users accustomed to the convenience of GIFs would likely be
  turned off(see below!).

  Operations - End User
  =====================

  The installation procedure is (almost) correct. Simply log to the CD
  and enter INSTALL. Gotcha! Just like the procedure for Erotic
  Encounters 2, one must provide the drive letters for the CD-ROM
  drive and the HDD where the programs necessary for viewing will be
  copied. That being done, no less than about 1.3 Mb of files are
  placed in the PICBASE directory (created on the fly) of the
  installation drive.  Entering "GO" at this point gets things moving.

  This is the point where one discovers that one's video setup must be
  VESA compliant for "true color".  This important bit was left out of
  the requirements printed on the back insert of the jewel case.
  Having met that requirement, I pressed on undaunted (Silly me!).

  Aside from some support files (actually for both GOV1 and GOV2), the
  installation procedure copies just two programs to the HDD: PICVIEW
  (a viewer) and PICBASE (a menu program savvy about the configuration
  of GOV1). At "GO", PICBASE loads and sucks up the file description
  file from the ASCII directory. In spite of the stated mouse
  requirement, I could only get the PICBASE to respond to the cursor
  movement keys. As the complete list of 505 files appears in the
  single menu table, there's no need for, nor any provision for
  navigation around the various directories.  One simply highlights
  the desired file by moving a "bar" with the keys, hits Enter and
  then.... waits... and waits... and waits... and waits... and
  waits... and finally waits some more before a faded, bluish,
  somewhat smallish still from one of Vivid's adult movies appears on
  the screen. (More on this in Visual)

  Now my PC's not the fastest in the world but it doesn't exactly
  crawl either. It's a 486-DX2/66 with 8 Mb RAM - 3Mb given over to
  Smartdrv and the rest to XMS memory.  My first selection (and damn
  near my last as well) was a file listed as 1815 Kb in size. It took
  PICVIEW 2:09 to decode it and display it. That's TWO MINUTES AND
  NINE SECONDS!!  I tried a smaller file - 596 Kb. It required a mere
  43 seconds to display.  Recalling that the average size of these
  CTIF images is about 1,261 Kb, we're lookin' at an average decode
  time of 90 seconds.  Friends and neighbors, if *I* am going to wait
  90 seconds to see an picture of ANY kind appear on my computer
  screen - it'd better be a wingdinger! Unfortunately, IMO, the images
  of GOV1 don't make the cut.

  Understand, painful as it was, I did do more than 1-2 measurements.
  I also watched the access light on my "normal speed" Sony drive - it
  flickered a lot indicating that it wasn't the sole source of the
  delays. Maybe PICVIEW is just a poor implementation of the CTIF
  decoding algorithms - can't say because (a) there's no information
  provided about the program (not even a READ.ME file) and (b) I don't
  know a thing about the technology.  (Perhaps some graphics guru on
  the echo can fill us in.)  Whatever the causes, the stated
  requirements of a 386-20 with 2Mb of RAM and 2 Mb of expanded memory
  would seem to be somewhat understated - kinda like saying that
  Windows will run on a '286. PICVIEW does warn the user each time a
  file is selected for display that decompression may take a few
  minutes.  My opinion is that Vivid Digital goofed big time in
  selecting CTIF for its CDs. I certainly don't have the patience for
  these protracted waits and I doubt many others will either.

  I should add that PICVIEW provides a slide show capability (but can
  you imagine USING it?), and a "magnification" capability via the +/-
  keys.  There's also some rather limited image movement capability
  while viewing and image via the cursor keys.

  To complete this section, it's worth recalling that the minimum
  system requirements also called for one of three sound cards,
  presumably to play back sound recorded with each of the images.  I
  don't have a sound card so I couldn't evaluate this aspect of the
  CD.

  Visual to follow...

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From: NATHANIEL BRITTS                       Number: 4927
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/19/93  8:37p
Subj: catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would appreciate it if you would add me to your mailing list also.

Nathaniel L. Britts
Rt.6 Box 291-O
Charlottesville, Va. 22902

Thanks a lot.
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From: NATHANIEL BRITTS                       Number: 4928
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 09/19/93  8:41p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I was wondering if you could add me to your mailing list. Thanks.

Nathaniel L. Britts
Rt. 1 Box 291-O
Charlottesville, Va. 22902
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From: JASON TRUEBLOOD                        Number: 4929
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 09/16/93  1:17a
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    I'm interested.  I'd like to see it working first, though.  Write me
back so we can set something up.

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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4930
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 09/19/93 11:50a
Subj: SHAREWARE EXPLORER                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> How about a price, size mb of the discs, file dates, catagories.
Hi Randy!
   We've got it for $59US or $79Cdn (and will match any advertised
price + take 5% off if its less). It contains 26000 files, and around
2.5 Gigabytes. File dates range from '91 to August '93 - so recent that
my husbands bulletin board just received a file from the SDN network
that was already on this set of discs! Categories are graphics, icons,
applications, sounds, games, education, communications, business,
hobbies, database, text/word processing, cooking, music, ham radio,
personal finance, utilities, programming, fonts, video, and more! 3
discs are MS-DOS shareware and 1 is Windows shareware. Everyone who has
bought it from us is raving that its one of (if not the) best they've
had. If you're interested in a copy, give us a call at 306-789-4654, or
fax us at 306-789-8690.

   Thanks,
   .\\ichellea
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4931
  To: THOMAS NUFER                             Date: 09/19/93  1:45p
Subj: Re: great cdrom prices                  Refer: NONE
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 TN> Do you have the 10 disk NASA photos CD collection 
 TN> by any chance and if so how much?
 
Don't sell that one...sorry.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4932
  To: KEVIN KING                               Date: 09/19/93  1:47p
Subj: LOOKING FOR CD-ROM JUKE BOX             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 KK> I'm looking for a NEW Cd-Rom juke box, I know they 
 KK> are out there. Some allow you to run 6 cd-roms at 
 KK> once daisy-chaining regular drives. They make 
 KK> preconfigured boxes with 10 dives built into a 
 KK> tower case.  Anyway anyone have an adresss who 
 KK> sells such a critter, please let me know.  Thanks 
 
The Pioneer DRM600A is ideal for that.  It is a 6 disk changer.  We sell it for
$769 bare or add $80 for SCSI interface.  It can be ordered with a credit card
by calling 615-339-0235 24 hours or 800-547-7817 daily.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4933
  To: BOB HALL                                 Date: 09/19/93  1:49p
Subj: HUNTING CDROM'S                         Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93  7:38p                       Private: No 

 BH> If anyone out there has the Star Trek CDROM, or the Phone Sex CDROM, I
 BH> am looking for them.  Please call me with a price, trade,etc..
 
We sell both....I believe you mean the SCI-FI instead of the Star-trek
cd....call 800-547-7817 to order.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4934
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 09/19/93  1:58p
Subj: <> CD-ROM TITLES & MORE <>              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DS> I Kirk,  I had sent my money order to Doug Aug. 3 
 DS> of this year.  Nothing has come yet!  I have left 
 DS> him nemerous messages and called his phone and left 
 DS> messages (Twice) and no reply.  So I would advise 
 DS> you to wait untill I get my games (If I do) and 
 DS> I'll leave you mail if it's safe or not.

Sorry I haven't gotten back with you sooner.  I haven't had time to read the
nets much lately due to our increased business volume.  
 
I haven't called you back voice because I have a hard time understanding you
due to your heavy accent.  I have been meaning to drop you a note, but I have
also managed to misplace your address.  I shipped your order to you by US mail
shortly after i received your money order.  I usually don't or can't insure
orders to Canada so I am not sure what happened to it.  
 
If you will netmail me your address to 1:362/119 or leave it for me here, we'll
get this cleared up immediately.  I will get the CDS of to you again by Express
Mail and give you $5 back to cover your phone calls.
 
Hope that will clear this up.  If anyone else has any qualms regarding with
dealing with PCJ, I will be more than happy to provide you with any amount of
references of happy/satisfied customers.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4935
  To: KIRK REEVES                              Date: 09/19/93  2:06p
Subj: <> CD-ROM TITLES & MORE <>              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DS> I Kirk,  I had sent my money order to Doug Aug. 3 of 
 DS> this year.  Nothing has come yet. So I would advise you 
 DS> to wait.

 KR> Thanks for the warning.  So far I haven't brought 
 KR> anything from him.  Still shopping for the best 
 KR> price.

And you won't have any trouble with PCJ.  Don't just go on one person's word. 
This was a common problem when shipping stuff out of the US.  Sometimes the
orders will go bye bye and you won't know what happened to them.  I shipped an
order to England a couple weeks ago, and the guy didn't hear anything of it for
3 weeks and I called him long distance twice to assure him it was sent.  Turns
out customs has a problem with something and had it all the time, and once this
was cleared up, he got it.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4936
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/19/93 10:53p
Subj: cdrom discs 1 of 2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     ShareWare (** BBS Ready)       ChessMaster 3000 MPC..........24.95
AB20 Amiga CD-Rom.............14.50 Christmas Carol...............28.95
America's Premier 1993 Sharw..22.95 Classic Collection (4 Pak)....51.95
Aminet Amiga............**....14.50 Clip Art Galore..........**...27.50
AMSoft (Ham)..................28.95 Clip Art Goliath..............13.00
Big Sky.................**....25.95 Clip Art Heaven...............24.95
C Users Group Library.........29.50 Coates Art Review.............44.95
California Collection...**....16.95 College Handbook (1992).......18.95
CD Powerbox.............**....19.95 Color Magic Clip Art..........25.95
Fred Fish On-Line(Amiga)**....49.95 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00
Garbo MSDOS/MAC Shareware.....14.50 Complete Bookshop.............13.00
Giga Games..............**....25.95 Composer Quest................33.95
Gigabyte Gold...........**....19.95 Compton's Interactive Encylop.96.95
Ham Radio (Shareware).........13.00 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....59.95
Libris Britannica.......**....41.95 Conan.........................32.95
Lion Share..............**....21.95 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50
Magnum Sight & Sound....**....28.95 Cookbook Heaven...............19.95
Monster Disc (2 Cds-92).**....37.95 Corel 3.0 Floppy + CD........134.95
Monster Media '93.......**....31.95 Corel 4.0 CD Upgrade.........239.95
NightOwl 5.0............**....15.95 Countries of the World.......299.95
Nightowl 6.0 or 7.0.....**....22.95 Crossword Cracker.............23.95
Nightowl 8.0 or 9.0.....**....24.95 Danger Hot Stuff 2............24.95
Nightowl Bus. Applications....19.95 DeathStar Arcade Battles......13.00
Nightowl Graphics (New).**....33.95 Deep Voyage...................34.95
OS/2 Archives (Hobbes)........14.50 Desert Storm..................34.95
PC Sig H & B Collection.......29.95 Desktop Bookshop..............26.95
PC Sig #10..............**....22.95 Dickens Complete..............44.95
PC Sig #11 or #12.......**....24.95 Dictionaries & Languages......13.00
PC Sig #9...............**....12.95 Dictionary of Living World....34.95
Phoenix #3..............**....12.95 Dinosaur Adventure MPC........31.95
Phoenix #4 (New)........**....23.95 Dinosaur Safari...............44.95
Pier Shareware #1.......**....24.95 Doctors Book of Home Remedies.36.95
Powerpak Gold...........**....12.95 Dune..........................46.95
SCI-FI (Pics,Sound).....**....24.95 Education Master or Business..19.95
SDN 1...................**....19.95 Electronic Cookbook...........29.95
Shrw Extravaganza(4 cds)**....42.95 Elec. Home Libr.(250 books)...34.95
Shareware 1993..........**....19.95 Encyclopedia of Clip Art......24.95
Shareware Explorer............53.95 Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.00
Shareware On-Line #2....**....29.95 Eric the Unready..............38.95
ShareWare Overload............13.00 Essential Home/Bus Collection.18.95
Shareware Studio #1.....**....20.95 European Monarchs.............48.95
Shareware Studio #2.....**....23.95 Executive Factomatic..........36.95
Shareware Tiger.........**....24.95 Family Doctor.................24.95
Simtel 2 (1/92).........**.... 9.95 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......27.95
Simtel 2 (Gov't Sharw)..**....14.50 Fontmaster #1...18.95 or #2...27.95
So Much Shareware #1....**....19.95 Fonts #1......................27.95
So Much Shareware #2....**....24.95 Full Bloom....................36.95
So Much Shareware #3....**....26.95 Funny.........................28.95
Software Vault #1.......**....21.95 Future Wars...................48.95
Software Vault #2.......**....23.45 Game Arena....................13.00
Software Vault Gold(New)**....27.95 GameMaster (Over 500 Games)...19.45
Sound Sensations..............13.00 Gameware Collection...........23.95
Source Code (Unix/Dos)........20.00 Games 1993................**..24.50
Technotools (Programmers).....13.00 Gifs Galore...................14.50
Top 2000 Shareware............22.95 Global Explorer (Delorme).....84.95
Up All Night............**....16.95 Gofer Winkles Adventure.......34.95
Winbox (CD).............**....24.95 Golden Immortal...............24.95
Window Master.................19.45 Goldilocks 3 Bears-Eng/Fr/Spa.38.95
Windoware.....................13.00 Gov't Giveaways-Entreprenuers.47.95
Windows 1993............**....24.95 Great Cities of World 1 or 2..23.95
Windows - CICA..........**....14.50 Great Wonders of the World 1..42.95
X11R5/GNU CDRom...............24.95 Great Wonders of the World 2..49.95
1001 Utilities................12.95 Greatest Books Collection.....44.95
20th Century Video Almanac....32.95 Grolier Ill. Encyl. v2........34.45
7th Guest.....................39.95 Grolier Ill. Encyl. v5 MM.....43.95
Adventures of Willy Beamish...24.95 Grolier Ill. Encyl. v1.5 MPC..44.95
Aesops Fables.................29.95 Guiness Disc of Records (92)..22.95
Aircraft Encyclopedia.........35.95 Guy Spy.......................39.95
Amanda Stories................44.95 Hacker Chronicles.............25.95
American Bus. Fone Book #1....16.95 HamWare 1993..................27.95
American Bus. Fone Book #2....18.95 Holy Bible & Other Christian..22.95
American Vista Atlas..........32.95 Home Library..................29.95
Anecdotes.....................26.95 Hospitality Index.............39.95
Animals SD Zoo DOS-21.95..MPC-25.95 House of Games................19.95
Arthur's Teacher Trouble......27.95 Human Calculator..............38.95
Audobon Birds.................21.95 Indiana Jones IV..............44.95
Audobon Mammals...............21.95 Inspector Gadget..............46.95
Barney Bear Goes to School....21.95 Inter. Business/Economc Atlas.23.95
Barney Bear Goes to Space.....21.95 Island Designs................36.95
Barron's Book Notes...........39.95 Jazz, Multimedia History......39.95
BattleChess Enhanced..........31.95 Jets & Props..................30.95
BattleChess MPC...............29.95 Jokes & Pranks................13.00
Beauty & the Beast (Win3).....28.95 Jones in the Fast Lane........19.00
Between Heaven & Hell 2 or 3..44.95 Just Grandma & Me.............38.95
Bible Library (9 Bibles+).....28.50 Kathy Smith-Fat Burning Systm.54.95
Bibles & Religion.............13.00 Key Clipmaster Pro............32.95
Blue Force....................44.95 Key Fonts Pro.................32.95
Brit.Family Choice or Select..24.95 Key Home Designer.............32.95
Business Assistant............13.00 Kids Zoo-Baby Animal Adv......36.95
Business Phone Dir w/Zip+.....34.95 Kodak Photo CD Access.........21.95
Cameron's Fine Art Poster.....39.95 King James Bible..............27.95
Carmen San Diego World Delux..27.95 Kings Quest V.................19.95
CD Cad v3.7 with manual.......31.95 Kings Quest VI................44.95
CD Game Pack 1................14.95 Languages of the World........46.95
Cd Game Pack 2................18.95 Laura Bow II..................44.95

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4937
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/19/93 10:55p
Subj: cdrom discs 2 of 2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Learning at Home..............49.95 Secrets-Exec Success Stories..36.95
Learning Adventure............13.00 Seventh Bun...................45.95
Legend of Kyrandia............48.95 Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...22.95
Library of the Future 1.......47.95 Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...48.95
Library of the Future 2......199.95 Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...52.95
Lifestyles-R & F Cookbook.....37.95 Sherlock or Shakespeare.......16.95
Loom..........................18.95 Sights & Sounds...............24.95
Lord of the Rings.............49.95 Snap Dragon...................39.95
MacMillan Dict for Children...29.95 Snapdragon....................39.95
Magazine Rack.................22.95 So Much Screenware (Gifs).**..27.95
Majestic Places...............34.95 Softw Jukebox-All Amer Sports.42.95
Manhole.......................35.50 Soundblaster MOD Files........24.95
Maniac Mans.2:Day of Tentacle.44.95 Sound Effects Library.........19.00
Mantis........................22.95 Sound Works (Software)........18.95
Mario is Missing/World Atlas..26.95 Soundware Collection..........26.95
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...24.95 SoundWav......................24.95
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typng v2.49.95 Space Adventure...............31.95
Mayo Clinic...................26.95 Space Quest IV................23.95
Mega Clip Art.................28.50 Space Shuttle.................34.95
Mega Movie Guide..............42.95 SpaceQuest4/Kings Quest.......34.95
Microsoft Beethoven 9th Sym...59.95 Spirit of Excalibur...........34.95
Microsoft Bookshelf...........48.95 Sporting News-Pro Football....36.95
Microsoft Cinnemania..........56.95 Sports Best on CDRom..........27.95
Microsoft Dinosaurs MPC.......56.95 Star Child....................39.95
Microsoft Golf................49.95 Stellar 7.....................19.95
Microsoft Mozart..............62.95 StickyBear Preschool..........36.95
Microsoft Stravinsky..........62.95 Storybook Weaver..............39.95
Microsoft Music Instruments...56.95 StoryTime #1 or #2............24.95
Microsoft Works...............39.95 Storytime #3..................38.95
Midi Music Shop...............24.95 Street Atlas USA (Windows)....85.95
Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50 Swimwear 1993.............**..28.95
Modblaster....................24.95 Swimwear & More (SVGA)........28.95
Monarch Notes.................53.95 Talking Jungle or Classc.Tale.35.95
Monkey Island (Secrets of)....24.50 Talking Schoolhouse...........35.95
Mother Earth #2...............27.95 Tempra/Kodak Photo CD Softw...23.95
Mother of All Clipart (23000).22.95 The Complete Twain............31.95
MPC Wizard for Windows........13.95 The Grammy Awards.............35.95
Multimedia, All American......32.95 The Holy Bible................31.95
Multimedia Tutor..............22.95 Time Almanac 1990.............16.95
Murder Mystery Stories........44.95 Time Almanac 1991.............21.95
National MM Parks Guide.......24.95 TimeTable of Art/Entertainmnt.27.95
Nat. Geographic MPC Mammals...24.95 TimeTable of Business/Politic.27.95
Nautilus Subscription Kit.....28.95 TimeTable of History/Science..21.95
North American Fax Book.......38.95 Too Many TypeFonts (Laser)....13.00
North American Indians........46.95 ToolWorks Reference Library...19.95
Officers Bookcase.............37.95 Total Baseball Encyclopedia...24.95
Oxford English Refernce Libr.129.95 Travel in Europe..............28.95
Our House (Family Circus).....42.95 Tropical Rainforest...........34.95
Our Solar System(Photos,Data).13.00 True Crime Stories............36.95
PC Gameroom...................26.95 Trump Castle-5 casino games...27.95
PC Globe 5.0..................49.95 Twelve Roads to Gettysburg....44.95
PC Karaoke....................74.95 Ultima Underworld 1 or 2......59.95
PC Karaoke Kids w/Microphone..44.95 USA Today.....................36.95
PC Sig Games..................23.95 USA Wars-Civil War............36.95
Pentaminoes...................31.95 USA Wars-Korea................44.95
Peter Rabbit..................24.95 USA Wars-Vietnam..............44.95
Peter & the Wolf (Win3).......24.95 USA Wars-World War II.........44.95
Pharmicist Guide to Drugs.....26.95 U.S. Atlas MPC................26.95
PhoneDisc USA.................64.95 U.S. Atlas / Automap..........27.95
Photos to Remember............34.95 U.S. Civics...................44.95
Pinacotheca MPC (Paintings)...22.95 U.S. History..................27.95
Pill Book.....................34.95 U.S. Presidents...............35.95
Pixel Garden..................33.95 U.S./World Atlas-19.95..MM v3-21.95
Plant Doctor..................36.95 U.S./World Atlas MPC v3.......22.95
Play w/Lang-Englh/Frenc/Span..49.95 VGA Spectrum #1..12.95 or #2..21.95
Precision Mapping.............76.95 Visions of Saturn.............22.95
Presidents, A.S. w/George.....79.95 Wacky Funsters................29.95
Project Gutenberg.............29.95 Who Killed Sam Rupert.........28.95
Prophone Business 1993........24.95 Wild Places or World View.....23.95
Prophone (3 CD Set - '92).....49.95 Wing Commander 2 Deluxe.......57.50
Prophone (7 CD set)...........99.95 Wing Commander 2/UUnderWrld...59.95
ProStar.......................48.95 Wing Commander/Secret Missn...34.50
Publique or Fresh Arte........35.95 Wing Commander/Ultima 6.......19.95
Publish It v2.0 (w/Manual)....24.95 Wizard........................19.95
Publishers Dream Disc.........37.95 Wiz Pack......................11.95
Publishers Paradise...........32.95 Women of Venus (Swimsuits)....27.95
Putt Putt Joins Parade........49.95 World Atlas MPC...............24.95
P.C. Medic (Fix your PC)......29.50 World Vista Atlas.............32.95
QRZ Ham Radio.................14.95 World Fact Book (CIA).........19.95
QuickToons....................39.95 World of Flight or Trains.....32.95
Readers Library (2000 works)..26.95 World Traveler................13.00
Return of the Phantom.........48.95 Wrath of the Demon............28.50
Return to the Moon............34.95 CD Caddies (Sony Compatible)...4.95
Revell Power Model Aircraft...48.95 Jewel Cases....................1.50
Revell Power Model Muscle.....48.95 Pioneer 600A (Bare)..........769.00
Revell Power Model Racer......48.95 Pioneer 600A with Kit........849.00
Ring World....................45.95 * PCJ - 9/19/93 - A 1 Stop Dealer *
Roger Ebert Movie Companion...41.95 * We meet all noncloseout pricing *
Rotor.........................24.95 * No surcharges. Call our inquiry *
Sales Manager's Factomatic....36.95 *line for catalog and more titles.*
Schumachers Prague Cookbook...44.95  ORDERS ONLY 800-547-7817 (9-9 EST)
Sci-Fi (Pics/Sound/Files).**..25.95 Visa/MC/Amex/Disc/Diners/Cash/Check
Seals of US Gov't.............44.95  Inquiry (24 Hours) - 615-339-0235
Secret Island Dr. Quandry.....39.95  Fax / BBS 14400    - 615-479-1047
Secret Weapons of LuftWaffe...24.50  BBS (HST)          - 615-478-2890

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From: CARL SLAWINSKI                         Number: 4938
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/20/93  1:15a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM PREORDERS                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Ahoy Mike!

On <Friday September 17 1993>, Mike Shannon was mumbling to All:

 MS>             We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
 MS>              - Cards are not processed until date of shipment -
 MS>
 MS>  NIGHT OWL 10 * What more can be said? Always the top-rated s/w
CD......$35
 MS>  PIER 3 * 650+mb of all new material w/ no dupes to Pier 1 or
2.........$39

How about a bundle price on these of say: $59.  8-)


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From: KEVIN KING                             Number: 4939
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 09/18/93  2:04p
Subj: CDROMS FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Eric.

If you have a dealer price list, please mail to:
Disk-Count Data
P.O. Box 277482
Sacramento, CA. 95827

We are editors for the "Reseller's Quarterly" a database designed to help
computer dealers find the best prices forcomputer hardware. We are expanding to
multi-media and would be referring dealers to your comany.  No charge for this
it's just part of our service.
Thanks!
Kevin King, SysOp



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From: DAVID ROBERTS                          Number: 4940
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 09/13/93  5:00p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES 1 WANTED                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PR> SG> I AM LOOKING FOR THE FOLLOWING CD-ROM'S
 PR> SG> 2.BUSTY BABES #1

I have 1 left of the Busty Babes 1.0.  Want $250 for it.  Give me a call at
808-624-1293 if you are interested.  Will consider a trade if its good!

... The Homeboy Shopping Network - Where Everything is For Sale!!!
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From: DAVID ROBERTS                          Number: 4941
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 09/13/93  5:00p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SG> PAT-  YOU CAN SEND IT TO A.B.O.  TECHNOLOGY  
 SG> 2239 E. BROADWAY
 SG> TUCSON AZ. 85719
 SG> I WILL SEND YOU A NEW 386DX40 MOTHERBOARD WITH 2 MEG SIMM'S
 SG> IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS GIVE ME A CALL AT 1-602-884-7260

You want to buy another one?  This is exactly what I am looking for.  A
386-40DX, 2 meg of 70ns ram, and 256K cache.  Give me a call at
808-624-1293.


... "Sedi, vidi, veni" (I saw, I sat, I came)--Pee Wee Herman
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From: DAVID ROBERTS                          Number: 4942
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 09/18/93 10:38a
Subj: Re: BB VOL.1 #2                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SG> I AM LOOKING FOR BUSTY BABES VOL.1 #2 , IF ANYONE HAS THIS FOR SALE
 SG> PLEASE LEAVE MESSAGE OR FAX ME AT 1-602-292-0497. THANKS

I have Vol 1, #1 I'd be willing to sell for the 386-40DX with 256K cache
and 2 megs of ram.  If interested, give me a call at 808-624-1293.  P.S.
We are three hours behind you!




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From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                     Number: 4943
  To: THE SISTER                               Date: 09/20/93  2:49p
Subj: CD's for Women                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TS> Let's move this to the Adultlinks Cd-rom Echo. Out of the
TS> way of Prying Eyes!

Is this a Fido area, or the CDROM area on another network?  And if another
network, you can tell me about how to get a feed?


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From: ALAN H. ORNDORFF JR.                   Number: 4944
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/19/93  6:19p
Subj: OS/2 CD Wanted                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone know of a CD made up especially with OS/2 programs.  If you
have such an animal, please reply with contents, and cost.

Thanks much.

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From: RICK KOSICK                            Number: 4945
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/19/93  4:36p
Subj: USED CDS FOR SALE                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the folowing CD's to sell:

PIER 1-15.00
Niteowl5-10.00
Niteowl6-13.00
Niteowl7-16.00
Shareware Studio 1-15.00
SoundWAV vol 1-10.00
PixureROM vol1-10.00

No trades. Cash only. Please do not reply in this echo, only to the
following:

Rick Kosick
fax (215) 244-9214
voice (215) 638-1424
netmail 1:273/730
internet rick.kosick@modern-bbs.com

Take all discs above for 75.00.

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From: HANK PETERSON                          Number: 4946
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/19/93  8:51p
Subj: Chat echo?                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (18 Sep 93) Bob Jackson wrote to Hank Peterson...

 BJ> Interested in the people, process, etc. more than the products. Would 
 BJ> you care continue in a more suitable "chat" echo?

    Sure would love to chat, I can't find a chat echo on my echolist.
    Where do you suggest and I'll send in an Areafix for it if I don't
    already get it.

... Beethoven was so deaf he wrote loud music

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4947
  To: ARNOLD SMITH                             Date: 09/18/93  6:19p
Subj: Wanted Microsoft Bookshel               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AS>I would like to purchase bookshelf. Ill buy from the lowest bidder. 
 
I'll sell Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 to you for $46 plus $4 S&H. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4948
  To: NATHANIEL BRITTS                         Date: 09/18/93  6:24p
Subj: adult cd's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NB>I was wondering if anybody out there had any gay adult cd's for sale, at 
  >a reasonable price. If not does anybody know where I can find some 
  >at? Thanks! 
 
Hot Hunks and GBL Alternative Lifestyles are both available now. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
 
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 4949
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/22/93  7:07a
Subj: Re: TAM Review - Addendum               Refer: 8314
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Arnie - I haven't been keeping electronic copies of my reviews but I
-> have paper copies of them all. If you'll send me your snail mail
-> address, I'll gladly send you one.

Hey Bob...

Me thinks the reviews are great.  Keep um' coming.

Have you tried to sell these things?  I think that most dealers would
love to include these in their product catalogs - and would probably pay
you for the right to do so.

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 4950
  To: KEVIN KING                               Date: 09/22/93  7:17a
Subj: CDROMS FOR SALE                         Refer: 8388
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> We are editors for the "Reseller's Quarterly" a database designed to
-> computer dealers find the best prices forcomputer hardware. We are ex

Hey Kevin...

I'm interested in this.  Netmail me additional info at 1:133/515 or call
me.  My voice number is 404-621-9210.

tim
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From: RUSSELL NABER                          Number: 4951
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/21/93 12:42a
Subj: Review of STAREware                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Bob!

Saturday September 18 1993, Bob Jackson writes to All:

 BJ>   First, many thanks to Mike Shannon of Starvector for providing a copy
 BJ>   of STAREware for review.  Mike is one of those "special" dealers who

 BJ> ... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
 BJ> -+- Blue Wave/RA v2.10
 BJ>  + Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 |  (1:106/30.0)


Just curious Bob, do you have a .zip file with all your reviews to-date?


Russell

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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 4952
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 09/18/93 12:49a
Subj: Cd for sale.                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The Software Toolworks Cd Deluxe 2.

Includes: TST's World Atlas, US Atlas, Reference Library and the game,
The Secret of Monkey Island.

$15 or make me an offer, will ship USPS 2nd day for $2.

Will consider trade.
 
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From: FRANK GRESH                            Number: 4953
  To: GERALD RYCKMAN                           Date: 09/20/93  6:16p
Subj: Adult CD ROM's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I can tell you what NOT to buy...there are 2 Swimsuit disks I know of
-> that are ripoffs and 1 R/X-rated CD that don't worth poo-poo (another
-> word for the 4-lettered word starting with "S"). The 2 ripoff disks
-> are "Lovely Ladies 2" and "Women of Venus". The 1 XXX-rated CD that
-> doesn't worth hoot is "Digital Dreams".

That's almost as important as what to buy, thanks for the input.
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From: FRANK GRESH                            Number: 4954
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/20/93  6:20p
Subj: Re: Adult CD ROM's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Bottom line: If this is your first adult CD, give "Busty Babes Volume
-> 1, Release 3" a try.  It's GIFs are a bit dated, but it covers ALL of
-> the above bases - sysop and end-user alike. It can be had from
-> dealers in this echo for about $25-$30. It has a wide range of
-> subject matter and the BEST user font-end going (IMHO). Also, watch
-> this echo for

Thanks for the input, just learned a whole lot in a short time.

Frank
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From: BILL DENNISON                          Number: 4955
  To: JOHN ENGLAND                             Date: 09/20/93  1:49a
Subj: Sb pro-compatible cd-rom                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> someone offer some advice ? I have a SB-PRO sound card and a Mitsumi
-> CRMC-LU005S CD-ROM drive. Is it at all possible to NOT use the drive'
-> card and just use the SB-PRO's CD-ROM adapter ??? If this is NOT poss
-> which drive CAN it be done with and what are the specs/prices ? Any h
-> be greatly appreciated ! Thanks !

The Mitsumi drive needs the proprietary controller which it comes with.
If you're looking for a drive to work with your SB card,  SoundBlaster
has introduced a new 'OmniCD' which sells for $299 at CompUSA in Phila.
The OmniCD meets MPC2 standards - 320ms access time,  300kb/s transfer
rate,  Photo-CD (multi session) ready,  and daisy chainable for up to 4
ROM drives on your one controller.  The drive's still made by Panasonic.

    Bill


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From: BILL ALEXANDER                         Number: 4956
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/20/93  2:14p
Subj: Re: Catalog                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris,

 I recently asked to be put on your list and have wondered if you received
my request! I would like to see some of those great deals you talk about
sometimes. I know that I told you a couple of weeks ago that I would call
and place a COD order but my dentist said he wanted some money for some ODD
reason.Hehehe....I guess pulling all of my teeth out and preparing a set of
dentures is a little costly, but I will have some extra cash by the end of
the month and would like to "give" you some of it!

Later

Bill

BTW my address is:

509 Pine Ridge Ln.
Aubrey,TX 76227

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From: BILL ALEXANDER                         Number: 4957
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/20/93  2:14p
Subj: Re: Cd packs                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike,

Would you send me a catalog of your complete and up-to-date listing of CDs?

Send it to:

Bill Alexander
509 Pine Ridge Ln.
Aubrey,TX 76227


Later

Bill

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From: DAVE RYDER                             Number: 4958
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/20/93 11:32p
Subj: SPECIAL                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Message entered on Sep 18,93 by BORIS OSADCIW to ALL
***********************************************************************
BO>                  C D R O M  B L O W  O U T  S P E C I A L S

BO> Mayo Clinic - $20.   San Diego Zoo The Animals! - $20.

BO> ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517

    Boris, is this number available from Canada?  From (416) I receeived
    a message indicating that it was not available from this calling
    area.

    At any rate, I was interested inthe above 2 cds.  Do you have a BBS
    number to place an order or download a catalog?

    I had sent netmail earlier and received no response, but that may
    have been a problem on this end.

Dave.
 Entered Sep 20,93 from Mississauga, Ontario.    rn.1063@rose.com
   
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From: JOHN ENGLAND                           Number: 4959
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/20/93 10:02p
Subj: Sb-pro compatibility                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone know if what kind of port for a CD-ROM drive the SB-PRO sound card
has ? Is it SCSI ? What CD-ROM drives can be directly connected to it ? Thanks
!

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From: BILL JONES                             Number: 4960
  To: ANDY BILAK                               Date: 09/20/93  6:25a
Subj: Re: FOR SALE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Sorry Andy but all the CD's went to one person a couple days ago.
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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 4961
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/21/93 10:05a
Subj: CD'S FOR WOMEN                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>LN> We apologize, and we bare our bottoms in shame :)


BJ>I very seriously doubt that your bare bottom is anything to be ashamed
BJ>of, Lee. Of course, seeing would be believing ((:>  GD&R...

I called Lee the other day, and wanted tickets to the pissing contest,
now don't tell me there is something else I need to get tickets for...

Damn.

BOB
:-)

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From: JIM OXFORD                             Number: 4962
  To: BOB HALL                                 Date: 09/21/93  1:34p
Subj: Re: CD'S FOR WOMEN                      Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93  7:38p                       Private: No 

 > 
 > Damn.
 > 
 > BOB
 > :-)
 > 

   Looks like Mr Pivot is on the prowl again!

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From: RICHARD VONZEL                         Number: 4963
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/21/93  7:41a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVES FOR SALE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

   I have 3 Mitsumi 8 bit internal drives for sale, all in great condition and
have been working on my bbs for sometime. 150.00 + C.O.D. Great for a bbs.
Contact me here or netmail me a 1:282/3022


Richard

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From: DAVID SMITH                            Number: 4964
  To: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                         Date: 09/21/93  9:33a
Subj: Night Owl v10 Pre-Release               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 09-19-93 JEFF COLLINGWOOD wrote to DAVID SMITH...

 JC> Sorry, no, you sent this to the wrong person.

Woops... Sorry about that!

... OFFLINE 1.52
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From: MIKE BRAUN                             Number: 4965
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/20/93  3:09p
Subj: CDROM FOR-SALE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

to all!!

        MITSUMI high speed internal cd-rom drive for sale or trade for a
        lower grade rom like NEC rom player!! Mitsumi does not support
        os/2 so i am selling or tradding this one for another rom drive!
        This one works great in dos but not at all in os/2!! If you have
        no trade i'm looking to get $225!! 

                                            MITSUMI DRIVE
                                            SPEED 350MSEC
                                            TRANSFER RATE 150KB/SEC
                                            XA UPGRADEABLE
                                            PHOTO-CD UPGRADEABLE
                                            CD-AUDIO JACK
                                            BUS DEDICATED
                                            WIN-NT COMPATIBLE
         With software and card!! Only 3 months old!!! Must sell or
         trade!! please contact me at (203)347-3842 or send fido to
         MUSTANGMIKES BBS 1:320/3842 THANKYOU SYSOP MIKE BRAUN!!

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4966
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/20/93  9:13p
Subj: DARREN SELLNER                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 MS> <<Geez, this middleman stuff sucks>>

I hear that....no money in it <g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4967
  To: ALL CD DRIVE VENDORS                     Date: 09/20/93  9:15p
Subj: scsi units                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a customer who is looking for several cheap SCSI units for BBS
use....anybody sell them?  He's opening up a 10 node bbs in Dallas with 2
Pioneer units for starters......

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4968
  To: GREG ISOKRARI                            Date: 09/20/93  9:17p
Subj: Adult CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

             ************************************************
              PCJ ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST - Last update: 9/06
             ************************************************
             Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)  ** BBS Ready
             Orders - 800-547-7817 / Inquiries - 615-339-0235
 
 101 POSITIONS 1..(Professionally produced educational movies)...39.95
 101 POSITIONS 2..(Professionally produced educational movies)...39.95
 ADULT PALATE..(Stills from films-Hi-Rez-Windows)................29.95
 ADULT REFERENCE LIBRARY..(500 MB-2500 Gifs-Fetishes Galore).....23.95
 AFTER DARK Trilogy..(Movie shorts-video for windows included)...43.95
 ALL BEAUTIES..(Swimsuit to adult-600 meg-SVGA/Animations).......29.95
 AMATEUR MODELS..(500+ centerfold pics-All SVGA or 24 bit **)....33.95
 AMERICAN GIRLS..(High quality models/centerfolds by S. Hicks)...34.95
 ANIMATION FANTASIES I..(105 animations/moving pics).............28.95
 ANIMATION FANTASIES II..(105 animations/moving pics)............28.95
 ASIAN LADIES..(660 mb-oriental x-rated pics **).................31.95
 BEST of VIVID Clips..(Movie clips using T.M.M. technology)......39.95
 BUSTY BABES..(Gifs-800+ celebrities-amateur **).................26.95
 DEEP THROAT..(The original classic-Windows).....................42.95
 DIGITAL DANCING..(Interactive strip game).......................48.95
 DIGITAL DREAMS..(All R-SVGA-660+ mb **).........................26.95
 DIRTY TALK..(Movie-38 minutes-4 ladies).........................44.95
 DOORS of PASSION..(Interactive movie-hidden doors)..............46.95
 ECSTASY Hot Pics I..(560 mb-330 anims-470 stories-2600 gifs **).26.95
 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 1..(710 mb-4300+ gifs/viewers)................34.95
 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2..(like version 1)...........................34.95
 EXTREME DELIGHT.................................................44.95
 FOR ADULTS ONLY 2..(680+ mb-VGA/SVGA gifs-anims-games-text **)..36.95
 GBL..(Gay/Bi/Lez-400+ hard to find alternate lifesytle pics)....36.95
 GIFFY GOLD..(All R-Giffy girls-San Diego models **).............34.95
 GIRLS of VIVID 1..(500+ hand picked slides).....................39.95
 GIRLS OF VIVID 2..(500+ hand picked slides-no dupes with 1).....39.95
 HIDDEN OBSESSIONS..(Fractal compression movie-runs from DOS)....47.95
 HIGH VOLUME NUDES..(500+ great photos)..........................38.95
 HOT HUNKS..(All males)..........................................38.95
 HOUSE of SLEEPING BEAUTIES..(Adult Movies)......................46.95
 ISLAND GIRLS..(Vga gifs-swimsuits/nudes-Hawaii).................44.95
 KAMA SUTRA..(Movie clips using T.M.M. technology)...............44.95
 LEGENDS OF PORN..(Quicktime movies of the stars)................44.95
 LOCAL GIRLS..(Vga gifs-swimsuits/nudes-Hawaii)..................44.95
 LUSCIOUS LADIES.................................................34.95
 MANPOWER..(All gay-1600 gifs-SVGA-no install needed **).........34.95
 MOVING FANTASIES..(200 adult movie shorts-GL/FLI)...............25.95
 MY FIRST TIME..(80 Minutes-2 discs-movie).......................36.95
 MY PRIVATE COLLECTION I.(675 mb-SVGA gifs **)...................32.95
 MY PRIVATE COLLECTION II.(650 mb-SVGA gifs-no dupes with v1 **).32.95
 MYSTIQUE of the ORIENT..(600 meg-movies)........................44.95
 NEW WAVE HOOKERS..(Movie featuring Ginger Lynn).................44.95
 NIGHT WATCH (Interactive full-length movie).....................47.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 2..(530 mb-scans/amusements **).................25.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 3..(630 mb **)..................................25.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 4..(Best of Windy City scans **)................25.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 5..(**).........................................25.95
 PC-PIX 1..(600+ mb gifs **).....................................29.95
 PC-PIX 2..(630+ mb gifs-no dupes with v1 **)....................29.95
 PC-PIX 3..(660+ mb gifs-no dupes with v1 or v2 **)..............29.95
 PHOTO GALLERY..(R-rated-best of Penthouse shoot-Steve Hicks)....36.95
 PHONE SEX..(500 meg-erotic conversations-8/16 bit Sterso-Wav)...24.95
 PHYSICAL THERAPY..(Replacement for XXX Extreme).................21.95
 PORKWARE 1..(2024 gifs-37 targa files-660 mb)...................31.95
 PORKWARE 2..(3308 gifs-135 movies-648 mb).......................31.95
 PRIVATE PICTURES 1..(600 images-70 mini-movies).................35.95
 RIMFIRE PACIFIC..(Best of adult movie clips)....................44.95
 SEEDY Rom #1....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #2....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #3....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #4....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #5....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #6....................................................24.95
 SEEDY ROM 6-Pak..(29,000+ files-no dupes-gifs/anims/text)......128.95
 SEEDY ROM 7th Heaven..(2900+ gifs)..............................30.95
 SEEDY ROM MOVIE Disc..(Best of amateur/profsnl-60+ minutes).....38.95
 SEYMORE BUTTS (Interactive movie disc-100+ minutes-Windows).....47.95
 SMUTWARE..(640+ mb-1000 SVGA gifs-2000 VGA gifs-100 anims **)...26.95
 SO MUCH STAREWARE..(579 mb-2600 gifs-text-200 anims-sound **)...31.95
 SOUTHERN BEAUTIES..(1000+ gifs-all new-SVGA from slides)........29.95
 STORM I..(700+ mb-5268 VGA gifs-87 anims-574 stories **)........22.95
 STORM II..(656+ mb-VGA/SVGA gifs-slide shows **)................22.95
 STORM III..(3000+ stills-half gay **)...........................22.95
 STORM 3-Pak..(ALL 3 CDs)........................................67.95
 TOTAL FANTASY 1..(From Denmark-3750+ gifs-220+ animations **)...27.95
 VISUAL FANTASIES..(600+ mb-2600+ gifs)..........................34.95
 WICKED-X..(Movies using Kodak Photo CD technology-included).....49.95
 VOLCANO..(400 VGA-900 SVGA R-rated gifs)........................32.95
 XXX-XTreme..(Best of overseas scans/automations)................29.95

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4969
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/20/93  9:19p
Subj: Busty Babes vol.1 #1                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I also have a Vol. 1 #1 for sale to the highest bidder......

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 4970
  To: SHANE HEDRICK                            Date: 09/19/93  5:57p
Subj: Re: CD's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SH>}}}}}} On 08-18-93  06:54 Gene said to Shane {{{{{{
SH> SH>                 Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective



SH> GE> $10 is offered

SH>   Gene,
SH>        Not at this time.
SH>                           Shane

      If you still have my offer is still open.
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer


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From: HANK PETERSON                          Number: 4971
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/20/93  7:38a
Subj: Re: CD's for Women                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (19 Sep 93) Bob Jackson wrote to Hank Peterson...

 BJ> SHOWOFF doesn't/can't display them because the GIF isn't really on the
 BJ> CD, just in the catalog. My unconfirmed suspicion is that a few GIFs
 BJ> were deleted at the last minute AFTER the catalogs had already been
 BJ> generated. Recall, this release (#3) was brought out, at least in
 BJ> part,
 BJ> to assuage some problems with copyrights. Discretion being the better
 BJ> part of valor, probably some last minute deletes were made. Some
 BJ> examples that would seem to fit this paradigm are the L_TERRI0 through
 BJ> L_TERRI8 GIFs in the BUSTY4 directory. The model is Teri Weigel:
 BJ> ex-Penthouse Pet and current XXX actress. She/Her studio probably owns
 BJ> all the rights to all of her images making it kinda "iffy" (to say the
 BJ> least) to put them on a CD. Ask Lee Noga...

      
   Thanks for the explaination. I love copyright law. Can you just 
   imagine a court hearing on the subject of GIF's on BB. You'd need
   a "take a number machine" at the front door of the court room, when the
   discussion turned to poolstick handles and champagne bottles. I bet
   the smoke alarm would go off and they would need to evacuate the building.
   I wonder if Lee Noga has thought about a "Fire Sale".

... Socates died of an overdose of wedlock

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From: LYLE DIXSON                            Number: 4972
  To: RODNEY RUDD                              Date: 09/03/93  8:42p
Subj: DAK CD-ROM SUPPORT                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

.RR> While we're on the topic of DAK "support", I'd like to complain a littl.
.RR> about the ROBOTS that man the 1-800-DAK-0800 credit card ordering line..
.RR> addition to knowning NOTHING about the products, they are unable to gra.
.RR> the simplest of requests, such as giving delivering instructions to UPS.
.RR> know, where they tell UPS to get a signature instead of just dropping t.
.............................................................................
I have the same problems and complaints... There 800 ordering
"Robots" are extremely rude and impatient.   I could not even ask
them for the bottom line total on my order because they simply cut
me off, they don't even say thanks for ordering from them... just a
totally inhuman responses.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4973
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 09/20/93  8:44p
Subj: The PGG1 CD....                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

arrived today (Monday 9/20). I'll try to get to it this week or this weekend
for sure. Thanks for the opportunity to review it!

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From: R.P. MEGGS                             Number: 4974
  To: PAUL SWIDER                              Date: 09/19/93  1:22p
Subj: Total Fantasy XXX CD                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On <16 Sep, 09:18>, Paul Swider wrote to All :
PS> Just wondering if anybody has had a chance to check this CD out and how
PS> does it compare to others. Is it another rehash or is it really something
PS> new ? Appreciate any inputs. Thanks in advance. >Paul<
    Hi Paul,
    Just checked out the total fantasy cd, got it from Mike Shannon at
    Starvector. Good price, super service! Anyway, I personally really
    like it, high quality scans, does have a lot of different pix on it
    and an excellent variety if animations. Lots of directories...Even
    the descriptions are different..Would rank it up there with BBabes.
    Liked it better than Ecstasy Hot Pix or FAO. Not for the timid.

                                                    RP

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4975
  To: THE SISTER                               Date: 09/20/93  9:12a
Subj: Re: CD's for Women                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-16-93 19:47> The Sister wrote:

TS>> Let's move this to the Adultlinks Cd-rom Echo. Out of the way of
TS>> Prying Eyes!

My HUB has no clue to this "New" echo, so my choices are the sale echo on that
link--ANy other suggestions, shall we try netmail--My address is 1:3618/23 or
69:23/23.

Hugs,

Me  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4976
  To: STEVE GERWECK                            Date: 09/20/93 12:50p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES II PREORD               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-17-93 13:09> Steve Gerweck wrote:

SG>> Do you have a catalog?  If so, please send me one.  I'll post my
SG>> address in
SG>> my tagline.

NO catalog, but we will personally notify all that have registered or asked to
be notified of all new disc releases--GOTCHA NOW in the Database! :)

SG>> I hope you're female! :)

Thru and Thru !

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4977
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/20/93  6:27p
Subj: CD-Rom Closeout                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Computer Works is having a closeout sale on all adult CD-Roms. 
The following discs are all for sale for $29.00 to adults only over the 
age of 21 while supplies last: 
 
***************************** $29.00 Each ****************************** 
 
101 Sex Positions Part 1                Luscious Ladies 
101 Sex Positions Part 2                My Private Collection Vol 2 
Adult Palate Volume 1                   NightWatch Interactive 
Adult Reference Library                 PC-Pix Volume 2 
Animation Fantasies Vol 1               PC-Pix Volume 3 
Animation Fantasies Vol 2               Pork-Ware 1 
Asian Ladies                            Pork-Ware 2 
Busty Babes Volume 1 Rel 2              Private Pictures 
Busty Babes Volume 1 Rel 3              Seymore Butts 
Digital Dancing                         Seventh Heaven 
Digital Dreams                          Southern Beauties 
Ecstasy Hot Pics Vol 1                  So Much Stareware 
Erotic Encounters Vol 1                 Storm I 
Erotic Encounters Vol 2                 Storm II 
Hidden Obsessions                       Storm III 
GBL Alternative Lifestyles              Total Fantasy Disc 1 
Hot Pix Volume 2                        Visual Fantasies 
Hot Pix Volume 3 
Hot Pix Volume 4 
Hot Pix Volume 5 
 
***************************** $29.00 Each ****************************** 
 
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales!    Download catalog.zip for our latest 
(205) 793-4481 Voice            list of available CD-Roms & prices. 
(205) 671-0092 BBS              Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4978
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 09/20/93  9:18p
Subj: Damar Enterprises                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DP>CD OS/2Box (version 1.00) - DEALERS ONLY!  We are now accepting pre-orders f

  >the OS/2Box.  This disk is chock full of HUNDREDS of megs worth of 
  >OS/2 apps, games, utils, drivers, and MORE!  Featuring a Graphical 
  >User Interface for the OS/2 environment, this is THE disk for you 
  >OS/2 folks. 
 
Hi Dave.  Would you mind defining "HUNDREDS" for me please?  Is it 
anywhere close to 6 hundred?  I have a lot of customers who are not 
looking to buy a disc with much less than 600 megs.  Thanks. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: TODD HUGHES                            Number: 4979
  To: BILL JONES                               Date: 09/19/93  7:58p
Subj: CD ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     Hi i saw your message for cd-roms. I was wondering if you 
have any for $100 or less.  I would like my parent's to buy me 
one for christmas.  If your selling them for that price and 
you'll have them in about a month or two i'll show my parent's 
so hopefully the'll get me one.
                           Thanks,  Todd Hughes

 
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From: PHILLIP DAMPIER                        Number: 4980
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/20/93  4:51p
Subj: Catalogs & Lists                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll gladly accept any catalogs or lists of CD-ROMs for sale. I'd like to make
this information available to the 111 members we have in our net here in
Rochester.

Mr. Phillip M. Dampier
Greater Rochester Fidonet Association
3176 Elmwood Avenue
Rochester, NY  14618-2096

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4981
  To: BILL DENNISON                            Date: 09/20/93  2:16p
Subj: Re: CDROM SPECIAL                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Boris,
>>        Will you be carrying the Night Owl #10 disk?  I've seen an
>>        offer for $39,  but know _someone_ out there will have a
>>     much more reasonable price of $25 or so like all the other
>>     Night Owl disks. <g>

Sure will Bill, but until we have the product in our hands, we will not
post a price as it can and will change, but I can assure you it will be
less than the $39. most are posting on pre-orders.

As I always say " First On The Block doesn't mean you get the best price.
Wait a few days and save some $$ !!"

Chat with you soon.....

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Now 100% QWK Compatible! More bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4982
  To: SCOTT OGILVIE                            Date: 09/20/93  2:16p
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    BO*  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX
>>    216-225-6759

>>    Boris where do you ship from?

>>    Scott Ogilvie

We ship out of Ohio, which really isn't to far from you as we just spent
the last week and a half in your area talking to several Canadian dealers.

If we can be of help, please feel free to call our 800 number to place your
order, you'll be happy you did !!

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4983
  To: ARNOLD SMITH                             Date: 09/20/93  2:16p
Subj: Re: Wanted Microsoft Bookshelf          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I would like to purchase bookshelf. Ill buy from the lowest
>>    bidder. Thanks Arnold

We have MicroSoft's Works and Bookshelf on one cd and it's priced
at $80. for the both of them.

Interested, please feel free to give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime
if you have any questions or 800-243-0517 if you'd like to place an
order.

Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: ROD JESSEN @ 910/512                   Number: 4984
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 09/19/93 11:52a
Subj: Mailing List                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'd like to be on your mailing list for Night Owl 10 and onward, as well
as others you might sell:

Rod Jessen
The Clovis Connection
PO Box 594
Clovis, CA 93613

Thanks


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From: GRANT J. FLEMING                       Number: 4985
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/21/93  9:23a
Subj: Just wanted to say THANX...             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To: Charlie Jarman

Got "Bookshelf" CD and wanted to say thankx for you getting it to me so 
promptly.  I am really glad to have this...it's a great reference.  It was a 
pleasure doing business with you...let me know if you are selling other cds in 
future.
Vampyre

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From: DANIEL HAGAN                           Number: 4986
  To: JOHN LITTLE                              Date: 09/21/93 10:24p
Subj: Sb pro-compatible cd-rom                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > It would be cheaper to swap that sound card than your CD-ROM drive.
 > know of 2 cards that support the 005S directly.  I am using the Sound
 > Pro FX (16 bit, SB Pro II, Adlib, Covox, and Disney compatible, runs
 > Mitsumi 005S or Panasonic CR521/522 CD-ROMs directly on the card).

Is that the name of the sound board (Sound Pro FX)?  I haven't seen anything
with that name in the catalogs.

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4987
  To: MICHAEL GIUNTOLI                         Date: 09/22/93 12:56a
Subj: Re: Mm encyclopedia                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>            Boris i currently have a Sb-Pro one of the first pro's
>>            to hit the market. Not the new Sb16 the old one. It
>>     says in the manual that i need a Matsushita model CR-521 CD
>>     ROM. Can you help me. I have seen the new 522 model drives
>>     for the sb16. But i need a 521 to work with my old SBPRO. If
>>     you can get em. How much? including shipping. Lemme know

We'll check into it and post our findings as soon as we can.

Boris Osadciw

... Merry Xmas, Happy Hanukak, Feliz Navidad, etc, etc, etc
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4988
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 09/22/93 12:56a
Subj: Re: NEW CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Boris,

>>    Answering a msg of <16 Sep 93>, from Boris Osadciw to Ed
>>    Duchek: here is my #, at the end of the message.  talk to the
>>    machine, for I usually screen my calls.  also best time to
>>    call is between 7-9pm weeknights if possible...  later,


>>    Ed Duchek

Well, I tried about 3 times and gave up as the first call I was greeted
by an answering machine, then the next two call were modems.

You have our number, please feel free to give us a call or drop us a note
via the fidonet address and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4989
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/22/93 12:56a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00  Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $249.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1199.  -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms Bare Dr - $369.00  Texel Ext 245ms Bare  - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00  Texel Ext Complete    - $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $399.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $499.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00  Mitsumi w/Sound Card  - $325.00 -PRPR
 Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50.  ALL ChestNuts CD's $11.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress makes it's motion picture debut as the "The Emailator"!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4990
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/22/93 12:57a
Subj: Mix or Match                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

***************  $12.00 MIX/MATCH CDROM DISK Specials *****************

American Premier          Canadian Shareware      Between Heaven & Hell 2
IBM Sampler (Networking)  TaxPrep '93'            Sherlock Holmes (TxT)
Game Arena (Shareware)    Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           PC-SIG 8                PC-SIG Games
Phoenix # 3               Jokes&Pranks            Learning Adventure
Business Assistant        World Travler           Sound Sensation
DeathStar Arcade          Colossal CookBook       ClipArt Goliath
Technotools               Our Solar System        Bible & Religion
Gardening                 Legal Guide             World Atlas
***********************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

***************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH CDROM DISK Specials *****************

                           BBS Ready CD's

Mega Rom 2                Lions Share             Magnum Sight/Sound
Mega AV                   So-Much-Shareware       Magnum Games/Windows
Mega Win/OS2              Shareware Studio #2     Shareware Tiger

***********************************************************************

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4991
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/22/93 12:57a
Subj: RED HOT                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$
 POWERBOX OR WINDOWS - $20         COMPTONS ENCYC UPGRADE   - $95.
 GAME OR SOUNDWARE   - $25.        ALL CHESTNUT TITLES      - $12.
 HACKER CHRONICAL    - $18.        JOKES/PRANKS - 1001 UTIL - $10.
 NIGHT OWL 9.0       - $25.        KINGS QUEST VI           - $47.
 SO-MUCH-SHAREWARE 3 - $29.        TOOLWORKS ENCYC DOS/WIN  - $49.
 SHAREWARE EXPLORER  - $59.        9000 SOUNDS              - $25.
 SOFTWARE VAULT 2    - $20.        5 STAR PREM DOS/WIN      - $29.
 DR.CD COLLECTION - 4 CD'S - $55.  PC KARAOKE W/MICROPHONE  - $89.
ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517  TECH 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4992
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/22/93 12:57a
Subj: PANASONIC CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

))))))))))))))))))  P A N A S O N I C  5 6 2  ((((((((((((((((((((
   The ALL NEW Panosonic 562 is here and ready for delievery!!
           340ms access time / 300kps transfer rate
         Multi-Spin / SB Compatiable / with Interface
           Complete Ready To Run - Price - $249.00
                 FREE C.C.I T-Shirt With Order
               500+ CDROM Tiltes To Select From

              ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517
          TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759



Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4993
  To: TERRY WHITEHEAD                          Date: 09/22/93  1:57a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Boris,
>>    I have talked to you several times on the phone.( and order 3
>>    cd's) Anyhow i just got a Pioneer DRM-600 6 disc changer .
>>    (second hand for a steal)  I need a scsii card adapter? and a
>>    cable .... Let me know what you have and  price please.

Glad to hear it and I hope it works out for you OK !!

Thanks for the call this evening and you should be up and running
soon.....thanks for the order.....

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4994
  To: HANK PETERSON                            Date: 09/21/93  7:33p
Subj: Re: CD's for Women                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HP>      I found the same thing on Busty Babes too. In one section that had
HP>      15 pages, only about 10 would work properly the rest would send me
HP>      a message that they don't exist when ShowOff tries to bring then up.
HP>      If you find the answer, please let me know.  Thanks

    Sorry, but I probably can't help. The disk I had was sent back and
    exchanged for another which doesn't have the viewing system on it.

- Heather
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From: GARY KIMBRELL                          Number: 4995
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/21/93 10:42p
Subj: RE: scsi units                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> I have a customer who is looking for several cheap SCSI units for BBS
> use....anybody sell them?  He's opening up a 10 node bbs in Dallas with 2
> Pioneer units for starters......

Check with Micheal Konor at 1:373/8.0, he was selling Toshiba 33xx series
(SCSI)
for $200 & under.

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From: BERNARD TIBBETTS                       Number: 4996
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/21/93  6:42p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> **************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
-> Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00  Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
-> Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $289.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
-> Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1199.  -SCSI
-> Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00  Texel Ext 265ms Bare  - $469.00 -SCSI
-> Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00  Texel Ext Complete    - $569.00 -SCSI
-> Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $439.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $569.00 -SCSI
-> Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00  Mitsumi w/Sound Card  - $325.00 -PRPR
->  Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50.  ALL ChestNuts CD's $10.00ec
->   ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759

Just got the cd's. They are great! How much longer do you think you can keep
the Pioneer 600A at this price? Is it true that Pioneer is planning on
discontinueing it? I want a second one if you get the price down a bit (or
give a choice of a couple of cd's). I need to see if I can find the money.
Hopefully by xmax.

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From: KEITH TURNER                           Number: 4997
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 09/21/93  9:00p
Subj: RE: Night Owl v10 Pre-Release           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

noticed you are trying to get on the mailing list for night owl 10, if you
would please send address of shareware cd's to k. turner 252 colonial dr
munford, tn 38058

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From: KEITH TURNER                           Number: 4998
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/21/93  9:08p
Subj: REVIEW HAMWARE 1993                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike, 
     heard about your cdroms for sale in memphis ,tn from the local area net
hub and local sysops, please send me a cataloge to:

                     K. Turner
                     252 Colonial dr
                     Munford, TN 38058

very instered in what types of cd,s are for sale.
                            thanks, 
                                   Keith :)

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From: ROEL SARCENO                           Number: 4999
  To: RAVAGE SUPREME                           Date: 09/21/93  7:12p
Subj: HACKER?                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Al,

-> Over 12 years in the making - The HACKER CHRONICLES - A Tour of the
-> computer underground.

Is this disk BBS ready?  How much is it again and where do I send the
money.

Roel


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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 5000
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/21/93  7:22p
Subj: Latest Versions of BBS Software         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LATEST VERSIONS OF POPULAR BULLETIN BOARD SOFTWARE

BBS Developers Note: Starting with the next posting, if I don't have a 'magic'
name to FREQ the latest version of your BBS with, the version specific file
name will be dropped from your listing.  This step will simply the list and
prevent it from constantly becoming out of date.

This list may not display properly on your BBS due to a problem with
Searchlight BBS. If it appears scrambled on your system, it may be FREQed
from 1:203/49 as CARNIVAL.VER

------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Updated September 20, 1993)
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Software     =  Name of BBS Software
Type         =  Method of Distribution
                ($)Commercial, (D)emo, (T)est Drive, (SH)areware, (F)ree File
Name    =  Magic FREQ name or distribution archive name
Address      =  Fidonet address to FREQ from (Zone 1 assumed)
Support BBS  =  Support or Author's BBS, Areacode-XXX-XXXX


Software       Type   Version   File Name    Address    Support BBS ~~~~~~~~  
    ~~~~   ~~~~~~~   ~~~~~~~~~    ~~~~~~~    ~~~~~~~~~~~ Aftershock     --    
2.05      --                      --
Auntie         SH     5.12      AU512*.*                510 938 5836 Celerity 
     $      1.??      --                      --
Coconut        $      --        --                      619 456 0815 Darkstar 
     T      1.01c     DARKSTAR    3823/10     510 631 5976 DCI            $   
  --        --                      813 961 0788 DLX            $      --     
  --                      818 893 7600 DND            SH     2.9c      --     
                --
EZ-Host        SH     --        --                      --
EzyBBS         SH     1.02      --                      214 669 3561 Falken   
     --     --        --                      703 803 8000 FeatherNet     SH  
  4.00      --                      --
Fido           free   --        --                      415 863 2739 Forum III
     --     1.41      --                      --
FSUUCP         --     --        --                      805 543 8227 Fusion   
     --     0.07                              --
GAP            $      6.??      n/a                     714 493 3819
               D                GAPDEMO*.*
Genesis        --     --        --                      315 592 7300 Harmony  
     SH     1.1a      --           260/445    607 748 5276 InfoHost       --  
  --        --                      201 288 7792 JetBBS         SH     1.00   
  JETBBS10.*              206 522 3980 Kitten         --     1.15      --     
                201 473 1991 Liquid         --     1.18      --               
      --
LoraBBS        SH     2.32      --         2:280/411    --
LSD            $      1.50      --                      --
The Major BBS  $      6.12      --           369/79     305 583 7808
               TD     6.12                   (voice)    800 328 1128 MegaHost 
     SH     2.11      --                      209 836 2402 Magnum         ?   
  ?         --                      818 706 9805 Maximus        free   2.01 wb
  MAX201B.*    249/106    613 389 8315 Oblivion       --     2.00      --     
                --
Opus           free   1.70      --                      412 366 5208 Oracomm  
     --     --        --                      619 346 1608 Osiris         SH  
  1.09      XLT19_*.ZIP             314 686 0120 PC Board       $     15.00   
  n/a                     801 261 8976
               SH    12.00      n/a                     --
PC Express     --     0.99      --                      --
Phoenix        SH     1.??      --                      --
PowerBBS       SH     2.50      --                      --
QuickBBS       SH     2.76      --                      407 896 0494 Remote
Access  SH     2.00      --                      407 834 3326 Renegade      
free   7/93      RENEGADE    133/501     --
RoboBBS        SH     1.08      --                      --
RBBS           free   17.4      RBBS-*.*    369/68      703 978 6360
SearchLight    $      3.50      n/a                     516 689 2566
               D      3.00      DEMO300.*   107/252     ""
               SH     1.31      --                      ""
Simplex        free   1.06      SIMPLEX     3644/6      --
                                SIMPOS2     3644/6      --
Spitfire       SH     3.30      --                      515 225 8496 SuperBBS 
     SH     1.17-2    --                      --
Synchronet     $      1C00      SBBSDEMO    103/705     714 529 5313 T.A.G.   
     free   2.60f     --                      --
Telegard       free   2.70      --                      --
TEAMate        --     --        --                      213 318 5302 TBBS     
     $      --        --                      303 699 8222 TriBBS         SH  
  5.00      --                      207 941 0805 Turboard       SH     1.22   
  TURBOARD     133/904    404 395 6327 UFGATE         --     --        --     
                415 695 0759 UltraBBS       --     --        --               
      318 487 0800 VBBS           SH     6.00      --                      616
399 4818 Vision-X       $      0.98      --                      --
Waffle         --     --        --                      --
Wildcat!       $      3.90      n/a                     805 395 0650
               TD     2.55                              ""
WME            SH     1.01a     WME          203/7707   916 483 8486 WWIV     
     SH     4.22      --                      213 208 6689

Please help me fill in the blanks and keep this listing up to date. Post a
message here with the updated information and if possible send me a copy of
the latest version (where applicable) so I can make it available for FREQ.

Thank You!

Michael Crosson
Moderator BBS_CARNIVAL

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 5001
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/21/93 10:22a
Subj: Re: Problem w/Groupware T               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Heather, I hope you get all this figured out and corrected.  I wrote to
you recently about the same type problems with my Mitsumi (on my bbs).
I had Mitsumi tech send me a new ribbon cable.  Have not needed to swap
it out yet cause once again the drive seems to be working OK (cross my
fingers).  If you get any solid answers to your (and mine) problems
I would appreciate you letting me in on the answers.  Thanks.

... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: PAUL NALEY                             Number: 5002
  To: MICHAEL GRAHAM                           Date: 09/21/93  8:41p
Subj: Encyclopedia                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG>Does anyone sale an ENCYCLOPEDIA on CD for BBS's to work in a DOOR.
MG>(DOOR.SYS)

MG>If not this would be a good idea for someone to work on.
MG>It would be nice if users could look up a subject, read it, and if
MG>needed, to have it zipped up to be able to download it. No need for PICS
MG>or SOUNDCARDS, Straight TEXT/ANSI/@ANSI@. Would be nice it it would
MG>work for multi-line systems also.

MG>Other cd's for BBS's would be great. Such as Reference Librarys,
MG>National Phone Books, ect...


The CD ROM disks that you are planning to put online are Commercial and
only licensed to the single indvidual who registered the software. They
can not be place online legally unless you have a written agreement or
site license from the Author or Software Manufacturer.

 * OLX 2.2 * A bird in the bush can't mess in your hand!


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From: MAHMUT KURSUN                          Number: 5003
  To: PEOPLE IN EUROPE                         Date: 09/18/93  8:51p
Subj: XXX                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have overstock on GAYWORLD CDROM and I will sell all my Hotpix 3 and
Hotpix 5 CDROMs because they are extraordinary crude and I dont want to
have any further trouble with them. I sell them to shops here and
some people bring them back because they were annoyed by the CDROMs

All 600 MB and BBSready, I'm looking for resellers outside Germany
This offer is not available within Germany
will sell only in Packages of 15 copies without Jewel Case:
15 Gayworld   each 45 DM
15 HP3        each 45 DM
15 HP5        each 45 DM
or take all 45 for each 40 DM (+Tax 15% within European Community)
payment could be VISA or COD within Europe
s/h Airmail Europe 20 DM, World 40 DM. Independent of quantity

Kursun CDROM Versand
Karl-Marx-Ring 148
81737 Munich
Germany
tel: ++49-89-6378421
fax: ++49-89-6378429
dont send Netmail, slight routingirregularities here in Germany

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From: JOSH PICHE                             Number: 5004
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/21/93  8:21a
Subj: CD-ROM Drive Wanted                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am really interested in getting my hands on a double speed CD_ROM Drive. 
What products should I look at and what price should I expect to pay?  Does
anybody have some to offer? 
 
                                  Josh Piche

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From: JOEL COX                               Number: 5005
  To: REBEL                                    Date: 09/21/93  5:58p
Subj: Cd rom for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

are you interested in trading, if so leave message, I have a nice 10 meter
mobile/ home ham rig....                             joel c.

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From: THE SISTER                             Number: 5006
  To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                       Date: 09/21/93  3:35p
Subj: CD's for Women                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Jean-claude!

In a message to The Sister <09/20/93> Jean-claude Demars wrote:

JD> TS> Let's move this to the Adultlinks Cd-rom Echo. Out of the
JD> TS> way of Prying Eyes!

JD> Is this a Fido area, or the CDROM area on another network?  And if anothe
JD> network, you can tell me about how to get a feed?
It would be another Network. Adultlinks...an adult network Contact 
Karen Richmond she is the current ZC. I don't recall her fido Number. 
But when I find it I will send it to you!  It is 1:123/43.
        Joannine

 * WCE 1.10/[NR] * The arrogance of age must submit to be taught by youth.


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From: KEITH LOONEY                           Number: 5007
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/21/93  7:38p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES 1 FOR SALE!             Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

2 questions. I've been reading this auction on busty babe release 1 and first
the highest bid was $150 than later the highest bid was only $125. Are you
sure you aren't making this up? Also, whats on the original version that isn't
on the later one? I seem to remember that Tracy Lords was on it. Was that the
difference? Also, how many pixs of her is there?

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5008
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/21/93  2:17p
Subj: BB#1                                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hello Mike!

Are you wanting another one? Have one I will trade for a Full Tower must have
 5= 5 1/2 out 2= 3 1/2 out and 2= 3 1/2 internal 512-939-9822

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5009
  To: BILL JONES                               Date: 09/21/93  3:52p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Andy!

18 Sep 93, Andy Bilak writes to Bill Jones:

 AB> -* Quoting what Bill Jones said to Andy Bilak on 09-15-93  06:26 *-

 >> What about $10.00 + $300 shipping for the swimware 93.  I am short
 BJ>> That would be ok with me but I don't think you meant it that way.

 BJ>> How about $14.00 plus $2.00 shipping.

 AB> Okay, i like your prices better...heheh... Give me the address to
 AB> send the money order and my address to.


Already sent money order off for those CD's are you still going to sell them
to me? Or did I make a mistake and this one isn't one of the ones I was going
to get? Sorry if I made a mistake. Did you get the money yet, please reply.

Pat

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From: MIKE BOLDEN                            Number: 5010
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/20/93  9:32p
Subj: FAO 1 FOR SALE OR TRADE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have inherited a CD called FAO 1 and am not really into this kind
of stuff.  I would love to trade for something fun like a Lucas
Arts game on CD or 7th Guest...  Or sell to the highest bidder over
$25.  Email if interested.

Mike

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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 5011
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/20/93  6:46p
Subj: Re: Adult Cd For Trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

               -|-  Quoting Pat Rickerson to Mark Johnsen  -|-

 MJ> Greetings All, I have a copy of Asian Ladies I'd like to trade, currently
   > interested in Southern Ladies or 7th Guest (with or without video).  I'd
   > also consider trading the disc and some $$$ for Mystique of the Orient.
   > Thanks in advance!  =:)

 PR> I have 7th Guest with viedo, it's new our CD player to slow to use it.
   > Will trade for Asian Ladies and $15. 512-939-9822 or reply here, I
   > wiil pay shipping.

Sounds good Pat, leave me a message with your address and I'll get the AL
and $15 off to you.  My address is as follows:

                                .\\ark Johnsen
                               10B Texas Street
                          Satellite Beach, Fl  32937
                      (407) 773-4339 [5:30 - 10pm, EST]

Thanks for the reply, look forward to trying this one!

,\\ark


 
... Jesus Saves!  passes to moses... shoots, SCORES!
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From: GARY GILMORE                           Number: 5012
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/21/93  1:08a
Subj: Review of Raincoat CDs                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

All this porno must be nice for -someone-, but IMHO, if you've seen one picture
of a girl doing whatever, you've seen them all.  (And some folks should try a
REAL woman for a change, and get away from the screen for a while.)

How about reviews of non-porno CDs.  I think there's a bigger market for that.
How many dupes?  FILES.BBS compatible?  New or old software?  Layouts?
Junky files?  Too many ANSI's?  Something like that would be invaluable to
sysops, and the non-porn CD purchasers out there.

Just my $0.02 worth...

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From: BRIAN PRINNER                          Number: 5013
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/20/93  9:14p
Subj: CD Changer                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     Hi there, helping a friend of mine set up a BBS and we are looking
for prices on the new Pioneer 6 disc cd rom drive.  Anyone with
information on prices and where to get one please either netmail me at
this board (Silver Star Inn 2210/633) or reply in here.  Thanks bunches!

Brian Prinner


... GUN CONTROL:  Using both hands and -HITTING- your target...
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From: NEIL ALLEN                             Number: 5014
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 09/20/93  3:24p
Subj: PRICES                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Michellea!

Could you give me prices and info on two different CDs?

TOTAL BASEBALL -
and
SPACE QUEST VI- What type of requirments are are necessary on a system to
                 run this CD smoothly.

Also, do you, or will you have available, Sierras latest Leisure Suit Larry?

ttys


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From: TREVOR BURGESS                         Number: 5015
  To: SAM BECKWITH                             Date: 09/21/93  6:14p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does that price for the Mitsumi CD-Rom include tax? Does that CD-Rom have kodak
capabilities as well as regular CD capabilities and is it internal???

Thanks in Advance.


Trevor Burgess


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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 5016
  To: ED FORTIN                                Date: 09/21/93  1:57p
Subj: Night Owl V10                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I'll take one.........
-> Leave me a message when there ready to ship and I'll send off the
-> coin!

Will do Ed, tho the Oct. 1 date looks pretty good right now.  Just as a
little "tease", I did some stats on the DIRs before I sent them up to NY
and here are some of the results:

                   Dupes with Night Owl 9:           0
                   Night Owl 10 internal dupes:      0
                   % 1993 files                    100%
                   % of files dated Jul-Sept '93    75%  !!

We still have some final preparation to do so these may vary *slightly*
when the disk is released, but DAMN those stats look good!

btw: You should receive the TCM Newsletter in about a week with more
info.....

Ray
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From: NICHOLAS O'KRAY                        Number: 5017
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/18/93 10:07p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All,

         I currently have available the following titles:

         Title                       Price                    Available
************************************************************************
1.) Game Master                     $ 15.00                        2
2.) Business Master                 $ 15.00                        2
3.) Education Master                $ 15.00                        2


         All of the above CD-ROMS are brand new and have never been
opened. If anyone is interested in any of these titles for the quoted
prices plus shipping and handling please feel free to give me a call
between the hours of 8:00am and 3:00pm CST at (708) 530-1323.



*****NICK*****



... Press "+" to see another tagline.
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 5018
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/21/93 10:19a
Subj: Dealers Wanted!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

==========>>>>>>  W A N T E D     D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========

  Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers

                   Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
                              Susan

  Cheapest Prices around !!!!

   Or send Name, A fax Number, Or phone Number to where you can be
  reached to 1:231/570

                                        1-800-865-5354
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From: JOHN ENGLAND                           Number: 5019
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/21/93  8:35p
Subj: Mitsumi cd-rom                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The Mitsumi CD-ROM drive has been sold. If you are still interested, please
leave your name and phone #. I will contact you if the sale falls through.
Thanks, Jeff.

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From: JAY SHILSTONE                          Number: 5020
  To: JAMES HOGUE                              Date: 09/18/93  3:46p
Subj: Pro-Phone 93 Crosspoÿÿÿÿÿ               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JH>-> I agree with you evaluation of the accuracy of the list. I haven't
  >-> mailed off of it yet, but I expect about 20-30% bad names. Even so,
  >-> of


JH>Am interested in the percentage. When you do mail to that list please
  >let me know how close your estimate was.

You bet!

Jay Shilstone
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From: JAY SHILSTONE                          Number: 5021
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/18/93  3:51p
Subj: Re: PHONE CDS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>Clearly I need to understand about "SIC" codes. What are they and where
  >can I find a listing of them (e.g. pub. library?). Do they (SIC) tell
  >what *kind* of business it is - that sort of thing??

Don't know that I have all of this exactly, but SIC is Standard Industry
Classification. There is a number assigned to all types of manufacturing
businesses. If you want attorneys then you are out of luck. I think
there are also sales organizations, such as retail lumber suppliers. For
example ready mixed concrete is something like 5321I, but other building
materials having similar numbers. Once upon a time, I found a list on a
BBS but it wasn't very complete. Go to the library and get a copy, or
contact a company like American Business Lists and they will send you a
catalog of their lists by SIC code.

Jay Shilstone
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From: STERLING PRICE                         Number: 5022
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/22/93  9:53a
Subj: Review of EE2 (con'c)                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>   Well, here we go again - how do you spell "re-hash"?

I found this one out the hard way.  In the future,  I'm not buying any CD that
says "new" on it unless I've seen a review or at least a file list first. BTW, 
thank you for this service you are providing, Bob--it is much appreciated.  I
only wish I had waited for your review before I bought EE2 and spent my money
on a disc that contained files I didn't already have.  In the future I will
know better.

BJ> already have
BJ>   Busty Babes V.1/R.3 (and therefore SHOWOFF), you may want
BJ> to
BJ>   reconsider.  The two programs (GIFReed and SHOWOFF) aren't
BJ> identical

I was thinking of buying BB V1/R.3.  Are you saying that the files on EE2 are
pretty much the same,  or were you just talking about the user interfaces?

Thanks again for writing these reviews!

Sterling

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 5023
  To: MICHAEL CROSSON                          Date: 09/23/93  8:31p
Subj: Latest Versions of BBS So               Refer: 8449
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Waffle         --     --        --                      --
-> Wildcat!       $      3.90      n/a                     805 395 0650
->                TD     2.55                              ""
-> WME            SH     1.01a     WME          203/7707   916 483 8486
->      SH     4.22      --                      213 208 6689
->
-> Please help me fill in the blanks and keep this listing up to date. P

You're off topic and your line length is too long.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 5024
  To: GARY GILMORE                             Date: 09/23/93  8:34p
Subj: Review of Raincoat CDs                  Refer: 8461
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> How about reviews of non-porno CDs.  I think there's a bigger market
-> How many dupes?  FILES.BBS compatible?  New or old software?  Layouts
-> Junky files?  Too many ANSI's?  Something like that would be invaluab
-> sysops, and the non-porn CD purchasers out there.
->
-> Just my $0.02 worth...

I agree!

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 5025
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/24/93  7:57a
Subj: test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

test...
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5026
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/22/93 11:39p
Subj: SPECIAL                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                 C D R O M  B L O W  O U T  S P E C I A L S
1993 Guiness World Book   - $29. Mario Is Missing           - $20.
Mayo Clinic               - $20. San Diego Zoo The Animals! - $20.
MicroSoft Works/BookShelf - $80. Sports Best                - $15.
Shareware Online #2       - $35. Shareware Studio #3        - $19.
Software Vault Gold       - $25. Night Owl Graphics         - $25.
             FREE C.C.I  T-SHIRT with $100. order or more !!!
SPECIAL BUNDLE - Mario Is Missing, Mavis Beacons Teaches Typing,
Chessmaster 3000 & US/World Atlas - Price - $50.
ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 Tec/Ques 216-225-3263 Fax 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5027
  To: BILL ALEXANDER                           Date: 09/23/93  1:22a
Subj: Re: Catalog                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Boris,

>>     I recently asked to be put on your list and have wondered if
>>     you received my request! I would like to see some of those
>>     great deals you talk about sometimes. I know that I told you
>>     a couple of weeks ago that I would call and place a COD order
>>     but my dentist said he wanted some money for some ODD
>>     reason.Hehehe....I guess pulling all of my teeth out and
>>     preparing a set of dentures is a little costly, but I will
>>     have some extra cash by the end of the month and would like
>>     to "give" you some of it!

Sorry to here you'll be eating oat meal for a few days Bill ...-:)

Tell you what, knowing the pain and the expense your going thru right
now, give me a call when you feel up to it and I'll give you 10% off
your next order with us and if it's over $100. I'll throw in a FREE
T-Shirt, ( not the one I'am wearing ) to help you easy the pain!!

And if that's not enough, wait till you see the FREE BEE'S in our
new catalog.

How's that....????

BTW: Please remind me of this message as you maybe losing your teeth,
but I'am losing my memory, quess I need to get some new SIMM's installed.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't Read Mail Without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5028
  To: JOHN ENGLAND                             Date: 09/23/93  1:22a
Subj: Re: Sb-pro compatibility                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Does anyone know if what kind of port for a CD-ROM drive the
>>    SB-PRO sound card has ? Is it SCSI ? What CD-ROM drives can be
>>    directly connected to it ? Thanks !

The SB-PRO is a propietary unit ( some what ) not a scsi. The best
and easiest unit to install with the SB-PRO is the Panasonic
562b, which will hookup directly and you can dasiy chain up to 4
units.

The price on these unit's are $249.00 complete and we do have them
in stock as well as a number of other cd-rom systems as well.

If you need further assistance, please feel free to call us at
216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to assist you
further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5029
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/23/93  1:22a
Subj: Re: scsi units                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I have a customer who is looking for several cheap SCSI units
>>    for BBS use....anybody sell them?  He's opening up a 10 node
>>    bbs in Dallas with 2 Pioneer units for starters......

Sure do Doug, we have a close out on some Phillips Internal units!

They are true SCSI based systems and come with 2 caddies to boot,
no interface though. The price per single unit would be $185., but
if bought in quanity we can do better.

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5030
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/23/93  1:22a
Subj: DUNE IS HERE!!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                D U N E  -  T H E  G A M E  O N  C D
                         by Virgin Games

Play the game with actual footage from the David Lynch cult film,
based on the best-selling Frank Herbert epic. Fly ornithoptors,
conquer the Harkonnen bases, manage spice production and overtake
armies of Fremen troopers. Accurately synchronized speech of live
actors with subtitles available in seven languages.
                          Price - $59.00
ORDER LINE US/CAN 800-243-0517 TEC/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759





Boris Osadciw

... Every Silver lining has a clone around it.
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From: ADRIAN SALAS                           Number: 5031
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/22/93  8:02p
Subj: CD-ROM SALE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   ********************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ***********************
                      "Your CD-Rom & Multimedia Shop"
                             NEW FOR 1993
                         "SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD"

100% 1993 shareware files 600+ Megabytes of the best shareware of 1993
Six different file formats for use with all BBS's. All lists have been
searched and files are free of BBS ads for quality! The BEST BBS disc
around!

                          Sale Price $35.00
               600+ Megabytes of Fully BBS Ready files


   ******************* UPDATED PRICE LIST ***********************
September 15, 1993

SUPER CD 1................ 22.00    SUPER CD 2............... 29.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 2....... 30.00    SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3...... 35.00
NIGHTOWL 9................ 32.00    NIGHTOWL 8............... 29.00
SOUNDWAV.................. 26.95    SHAREWARE EXTRAVAGANZA... 55.00
PC-S1G 12................. 41.50    SOFTWARE VAULT........... 28.00
DESKTOP PUBLISHERS DREAM.. 39.50    TIME DESERT STORM........ 29.95
PC MEDIC.................. 32.50    CICA WINDOWS............. 29.00
VGA SPECTRUM v2........... 19.00    CD-CADDYS................ 4.50
DR. WINODOWS...............22.00    DR. GAMES................ 22.00
DR. MUSIC................. 22.00    DR. SHAREWARE............ 22.00


************************** ADULT TITLES ***************************
Note: You must be 21 or over to purchase these titles
ECTASY HOT PICS........... 35.00    BUSTY BABES.............. 35.00
ASIAN LADIES.............. 35.00    PC PIX 3................. 35.00
PORKWARE 2................ 35.00    HOT HUNKS................ 35.00
LUCIOUS LADIES............ 35.00    EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2...... 35.00
*All in stock and ready to ship.


* Shipping is 5.00 up to 3 cds .50 each additional.
* CA Residents add 7.75% Sales Tax
* SEND check/money order in US funds payable to ADRIAN SALAS to:
  SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION
  2434 EAST 32ND STREET,
  NATIONAL CITY CA 91950-7710 USA
* QUESTIONS/ORDERS 619-479-8688 10:AM to 7:PM PST.

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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 5032
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/23/93 12:59a
Subj: Anniversary Special!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                         The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 1-800-289-1ROM  FAX: (314) 521-7453
        $89.00         International 314-521-4862     $89.00

                        FREE OVERNIGHT SHIPPING!

 *******************  ANNUAL ANNIVERSARY SALE ****************************

Soooo... everyone wants a bargain nowadays... and we would like to
give you one!  We want to say thank you to the thousands of customers
who buy from us every month... so once again we will be holding our
anniversary sale!  Check this one out!

        - Shareware Explorer: Four Disk Set, 26,000 files, files dated
          through the first week of August, 1993! (less than a month
          old!) By far one of the most popular disks we have had in
          stock this year! We have sold over 1000 of these since they
          have been released 10 days ago!

        - Night Owl's Graphics:  Night Owl has always had some of the
          highest quality disks on the market.  Now they have released
          an EXCELLENT graphics disk.. containing nothing
          but the FINEST graphics files available.  Over 600 megs!

        - Shareware Online II:  The latest from CMS software... the
          disk is less than 2 weeks old!  1993 files GALORE!  A must for
          the serious SYSOP or Shareware enthusiast.

        - Phoenix 4.0... what else can we say.  Phoenix has a draw just
          by it's name.  THOUSANDS of files, with over 600 megs.  Less
          than 1% duplication to Phoenix 3.0!

So.. we have put them all together in a NON duplicating package...
giving you over 40,000 different files to enjoy.  Each disk contains BBS
file descriptions, AND an it's own "access" software for complete search
and retrieve utilities.

Oh.. and did we mention????

**********************  FREE OVERNIGHT SHIPPING ***********************

Order up until 7:00pm Monday thru Thursday and receive your package the
next day with absolutely NO SHIPPING CHARGES!  Folks.. if you have been
looking to add or begin your CDROM shareware library... don't miss this
one.. you can't pass this up.

Just want one of the above?  Give us a call!  We won't disappoint you!

THESE ARE BRAND NEW RELEASED DISKS.. NOT STUFF THAT AIN'T MOVIN.. JUST A
WAY TO SAY THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOLKS WHO HAVE SUPPORTED THE
MARKetplace! OVER THE YEARS.


*********************************************************************
   VISA          1 - 8 0 0 - 2 8 9 - 1 R O M        MASTERCARD
              ---- 100s of Titles Available ----

Free overnight shipping applies only to destinations within the
continuous 48 United States.



 * WCE 1.02/2072 * Just in one of my moods. <burp> I think that helped.


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From: JOHN ROMERO                            Number: 5033
  To: BOB DAMATO                               Date: 09/23/93  2:04a
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have games on disks that I want to trade for cd's preferably adult
cd's or good shareware ones.

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From: FRANK GRESH                            Number: 5034
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/22/93 10:41p
Subj: THANKS                                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike, just wanted to say thanks for the expedient service.  I am 
thoroughly enjoying the 2 CD's I purchased from STARVECTOR Software.  
Only problem is, now my eyes hurt.  Thanks again

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From: FRANK GRESH                            Number: 5035
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/22/93 10:41p
Subj: Virtual Valerie                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have heard of an interactive Adult CD called Virtual Valerie, I guess 
it was profiled in Playboy or Penthouse, but this is just what a friend 
of mine says.  Anyone with any information on this CD, please drop a 
note here, thanks...Frank

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From: NICHOLAS O'KRAY                        Number: 5036
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 09/20/93 10:07p
Subj: CD-ROM Catalogs Wanted                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Randy Neuner to Nicholas O'kray <=-

 RN> Desire any catalogs on CD-ROM shareware discs.

 RN> RANDY NEUNER
 RN> High Noon BBS
 RN> 196 HUGHES ST
 RN> FT HUACHUCA, AZ 85613

 Randy,
       Yes I sure am interested in any company that carries CD-ROM software
 and hardware. If your company qualifies than please send the information
 to the following address:

 Nicholas O'Kray
 447 S. Hampshire
 Elmhurst Il., 60126

... If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving isn't for you
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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 5037
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/22/93  7:08p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES II PREORD               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Lee Noga to Steve Gerweck <=-

 LN> NO catalog, but we will personally notify all that have registered or
 LN> asked to be notified of all new disc releases--GOTCHA NOW in the
 LN> Database! :)

Thanks Lee!

 SG>> I hope you're female! :)

 LN> Thru and Thru !

Do you like these adult disks such as BB?  Are you a BB yourself??? :)

 LN> Hugs,

Hugs back,

Steve


... This tagline is made just for Lee Noga
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5038
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 09/22/93  6:51p
Subj: Re: Adult CD ROM's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Gerald Ryckman <09-20-93 18:16> Frank Gresh wrote:

FG>> -> I can tell you what NOT to buy...there are 2 Swimsuit disks I know
FG>> -> that are ripoffs and 1 R/X-rated CD that don't worth poo-poo
FG>> -> are "Lovely Ladies 2" and "Women of Venus".

"Ripoffs" in what way ? How can one vary a swimsuit disc--Im curious because we
have acquired the rights to the Venus '94 Pageant just held in Tampa, and will
have this disc on the market this year--

Our BB Vol II is mostly T&A too.....nothing crude...perhaps are you disapointed
that the disc was too soft for your liking--Real interested in what you have to
say...

Thanks a $$$,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5039
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 09/22/93  6:55p
Subj: Re: Adult CD ROM's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Bob Jackson <09-20-93 00:43> Darin Celino wrote:

DC>> Is release 3 really OK for BBS use?

*NONE* of the grassroot era disc's are safe from violations--The only ones that
are OK, are 'Giffy Girls', 'Amateur Models' and the Busty Babes Vol II disc
about ready to hit the market--You must deal in licensed collections to achieve
the peace of mind you are looking for--These are BBS allowable disc's to the
best of my knowledge.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: RANDY RAE                              Number: 5040
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/21/93 10:27p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Is there any cd-rom disk drive that can hold more then 1 cd


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From: BILL JONES                             Number: 5041
  To: TODD HUGHES                              Date: 09/22/93  5:54p
Subj: Re: CD ROMS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Sorry Todd, but I don't sell CD's, I only had a few that were extra
 to my needs and they are gone.
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From: DAN GUILLORY                           Number: 5042
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 09/22/93  7:12a
Subj: Night Owl V10                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

rh>                    Dupes with Night Owl 9:           0
rh>                    Night Owl 10 internal dupes:      0
rh>                    % 1993 files                    100%
rh>                    % of files dated Jul-Sept '93    75%  !!

rh> We still have some final preparation to do so these may vary> *slightly*
rh> when the disk is released, but DAMN those stats look good!

rh> btw: You should receive the TCM Newsletter in about a week with more
rh> info.....

whew! this sounds good! - Please put me on your TCM Newsletter...

Dan Guillory
Hard Disc Cafe BBS
PO Box 440895
Houston, Texas  77244-0895

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From: DWAYNE COFFELT                         Number: 5043
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/22/93  5:54p
Subj: Monster Cd-Rom List 1/2                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MS> Bible Library.................28.50
MS> Bibles & Religion.............13.00

Hey Mike,

Could you tell me if the files on these are compressed or can these be 
run from the CD ? I'm looking around for a bible CD but I don't want to 
have load what's on it to my HD to use it.

___
 X RM 1.2 00799 X Born Free....TAXED TO DEATH!

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5044
  To: GARY KIMBRELL                            Date: 09/22/93  8:58p
Subj: RE: scsi units                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 GK> Check with Micheal Konor at 1:373/8.0, he was 
 GK> selling Toshiba 33xx series (SCSI)
 GK> for $200 & under.

Thanks....

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5045
  To: BERNARD TIBBETTS                         Date: 09/22/93  9:00p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BT> do you think you can keep
 BT> the Pioneer 600A at this price? Is it true that Pioneer is planning on
 BT> discontinueing it? I want a second one if you get 
 BT> the price down a bit (or
 BT> give a choice of a couple of cd's). I need to see 
 BT> if I can find the money.
 BT> Hopefully by xmax.

I am now offering the DRM600A for $769 plus $8 shipping.  800-547-7817 to
order.

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From: JEFF NEWMAN                            Number: 5046
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/23/93 12:57a
Subj: Re: Review of Raincoat CDs              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 .........
 BJ> I'm not interested in shareware much so I don't do reviews of
 BJ> them. (I recently even dumped all the ones I had.)

 BJ> You raise a valid point. Perhaps my reviews of adult CDs
                         PERHAPS NOT
 BJ> annoy more people on this echo than those that find them
 BJ> useful/interesting. In the past I've relied on the
 BJ> moderator to tell me if/when he thinks I'm doing something
 BJ> wrong, should stop, or whatever. I don't really know what

 Bob, THANK YOU for your reviews. They are objective and cover all aspects
 of the disks. You help out many and should not be belittled for what you
 do not do. You are doing what you like to do and MANYMANY of us appreciate
 the time and effort you put into your reviews. ...Now if you have disks
 laying around that you do not need...I know someone who will take them
 off of your hands   :-)

-Jeff NOPCCCC

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From: RAVAGE SUPREME                         Number: 5047
  To: ROEL SARCENO                             Date: 09/22/93  8:34p
Subj: HACKER?                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RS> -> Over 12 years in the making - The HACKER CHRONICLES - A Tour of the
RS> -> computer underground.
RS>
RS> Is this disk BBS ready?  How much is it again and where do I send the
RS> money.

The disk is not BBS ready...but can be very EASILY converted!  How much and
where can you get it.....

HEY MIKE!  Yeah you...MIKE SHANNON of StarVector CD-Rom Sales,  You have this
disk don't you?  Please quote Roel a price!!!!

You could get it from  SCAN MAN himself (the guy that made the disk)...'cept I
think he is selling for $79.00 the list price.  But with that $79.00 I think
he is giving a deal on becoming a member of his BBS.  One of the OLDEST BBS's
in the world.  Been up for about 14 years.  Anyway, you can get a hold of him
at (304)744-7322.  The BBS number for P-80 Information Systems is
(304)744-2253.  If you want more information on the CD itself, go to a
newstand and look for PC-Computing (OCTOBER 93 ISSUE).  It was reviewed and
rated #3 in the Unusual CD's Available.  To find out more about P-80 (formerly
known as Pirate-80), you can sift thru the Newweek archives, they were
mentioned several times there as a prodominate Underground Board...As well as
on the Phil Donahue show.  Anyway----The disc is great if you are into the
learning thing....and great if you just want to know HOW THEY DID IT!

Let me know how it works out for ya!

Al James
a.k.a.
Ravage Supreme 
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From: RICK DUNLAP                            Number: 5048
  To: ALAN H. ORNDORFF JR.                     Date: 09/22/93  6:27p
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD Wanted                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Alan H. Orndorff Jr. to All <=-

 AHOJ> Does anyone know of a CD made up especially with OS/2 programs. 
 AHOJ>  ! Origin: Data Systems BBS, Boulder City, Nv, Zyxel 19.2 
 AHOJ> 702-293-0760 (1:209/236)

       Alan,
       
       I bought Hobbes OS2 from Mike Shannon At Starvector Software. Give 
       him a try. In my dealings with him, he has always performed promptly 
       and honestly. Look through the posts on this echo, he'll be there.
       
       TTYL...Rick                                                             
  

... Wisdom of many and the wit of a half.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 5049
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/22/93  3:34p
Subj: <> CD-ROM TITLES & MORE <>              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi DOug I don't think I have a accent.  I think I sound normal,  maybe I'm just
a canadian.   OK.  My Address is:


                Darren Sellner
                21 Dunning Crescent
                Red Deer, Alberta, Canada
                T4R-2g8

Thanks for getting back to me...  BYE I appreciate this.

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From: DANIEL HALL                            Number: 5050
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/22/93 11:13a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Do you have any gay cd'roms avalable?
/s


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5051
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/22/93  5:59p
Subj: Review of PGG1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Many thanks to Ismail Arslangiray of GroupWare in Tacoma, WA for
  providing a copy of the adult CD "PGG1" for review.

  This review is broken up into several posts and contains four major
  sections: General - Miscellaneous comments that didn't seem to
  belong in any other section; Statistics - the quantitative,
  measurable characteristics of the CD; Operations - a more
  qualitative analysis of the "usability" aspects of the CD which
  tries to consider factors of interest to both the sysop and the
  end-user; and Visual - a purely qualitative opinion of the intrinsic
  qualities of the images themselves.  Note that section boundaries
  are not inviolate.

  To those of you who have read some of my previous reviews of adult
  CDs, you will be familiar territory with this one as well.  If
  you're a "new" reader, let me iterate: I am NOT an expert (whatever
  that is) on adult (or any other kind of) CDs.  Accordingly, what
  follows is ONE PERSON'S OPINION.

  General
  =======

  PGG1 is visibly an unconventional adult CD right from the git-go. To
  begin, except for its acronym-like name of "PGG1" (which
  unfortunately begs to be pronounced "PIG-1" or "PIGGY-1"), there is
  absolutely NOTHING printed on the CD itself. Further, there are no
  jewel case inserts save a postcard-like "registration card w/survey"
  packed inside the back panel (addressed to GroupWare) that promises
  a $20 gift certificate in exchange for its return. There is neither
  installation nor execution instructions, no descriptive text,
  nothing that further identifies the CD or hints at its contents. The
  neophyte CD user could be completely lost with respect to where to
  begin or what to do first. Fortunately, Yours Truly did not have
  that problem. (see Operations)

  Statistics
  ==========

  Tabulation of PGG1's contents reveals a total of 2448 GIFs of
  various resolutions totaling some 410 Mb.  This gives a healthy
  average GIF size of about 167 Kb, the validity of which is born out
  by the large number of 800x600x256 scans on the CD. There are also
  30 JPG files totaling about 3 Mb for an average size of around 96
  Kb. These files decompressed into impressive looking scans
  indicating a JPEG compression factor likely somewhere between 25%
  and 50%.  There are also 21 either FLI or self-executing GL
  "animation" files.

  I found about 3% file duplication among the GIFs. This was most
  rampant in the ?_ART directories, but it cropped up in several
  others as well. As annoying as the real duplicates were the "near
  duplicates" - files which technically weren't twins, but which
  varied so slightly from each other (e.g. position of a hand) that
  they might as well have been.

  Due to the file naming conventions used on the CD, there was no need
  to compare PGG1's file names against the GIF file name data base to
  search for possibly re-hashed files. (however, see Visual).

  Also worth mentioning is the presence of a number of corrupted files
  on PGG1. While I didn't view every scan in every directory, I did
  look at quite a few and several directories had one or more (some
  quite a few) corrupted files - files that would only partially or
  not at all display on the screen.  The magnitude of this defect on
  PGG1 is nowhere near that of Erotic Encounters I. Still, it is
  aggravating and, as proven by other producers, avoidable. CUSTOMERS
  should NOT have to pay for defective merchandise.

... Open mouth, insert foot, echo internationally.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5052
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/22/93  5:59p
Subj: Review of PGG1 (con't)                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Operations - Sysop
  ==================

  This is a null consideration as most every scan on PGG1 bears some
  form of a copyright notice. Moreover, while there is no specific,
  general warning given against BBS usage, for example a declaration
  in a READ.ME file, some GIFs have an embedded comment making it
  clear that further distribution requires written permission. It's
  therefore dubious that the producers intended for this CD to be used
  on a BBS.  Further evidence of the validity of that interpretation
  is the total lack of any BBS-useful text files describing the scans.

  Operations - End User
  =====================

  Unconventionality strikes again! The only viewer included on PGG1 is
  called WIN_JPG which, somewhat obviously, only runs under Windows.
  Despite its name, in addition to decompressing and displaying JPG
  files, WIN_JPG will also display GIF, TIF, TGA, PCX, and BMP files.
  Its interface is very much like that of WINGIF (surprise, surprise)
  but it has somewhat different image manipulation functionality.
  WINGIF's capabilities seem more focused on the dimensional aspects
  of the image; WIN_JPG seems more focused on the intrinsic aspects
  like color balance, contrast, HSV, etc. WIN_JPG is a serviceable,
  fairly speedy viewer for Windows, and it will execute directly from
  its CD directory without the need to "install" anything on the HDD.
  This may help to explain the lack of any installation instructions,
  but a word to that effect would have been nice. Again, naive users,
  particularly naive Windows users (no, I'm not being redundant) would
  probably go ahead and copy the program files to their HDD -
  presuming they could get that far in the first place.

  PGG1 has 34 directories including 29 for GIFs and 1 each for the JPG
  scans, the WIN_JPG viewer, the animation files, some fairly
  purposeless text files (more on these later), and 1 completely empty
  directory (PGG_GIFF). In general, directory names seem to have been
  well-chosen. However, this time it's inconsistency that rears its
  head. Several directories (e.g. \FEET, \TATTOO, \PIERCING) hint at
  the SUBJECT MATTER of their scans while others (e.g. CMR, TFA_001,
  PGG_1) are discovered to indicate the ORIGINS of their scans. While
  this obviously isn't a "biggie", I think it further points up, shall
  I say, the inexperience of the CDs producers, the lack of which
  caused them to either not recognize or ignore the "touches" that
  intrinsically identify a product as "professional".

  The aforementioned text files are in the \INFO sub-directory of
  \CMR. They are descriptive files for the scans in \CMR, but instead
  of the FILES.BBS format (or anything remotely resembling it), these
  files look more like the files descriptions one sees on CSERVE in
  the CORNER or PICS forums.  It's worth noting that the scans in \CMR
  all have the GIF89a embedded comments in them that are essentially
  redundant with the text in these files.

... "Milhouse, we live in the age of cooties!"  - Bart Simpson
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5053
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/22/93  6:00p
Subj: Review of PGG1 (con'c)                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Visual
  ======

  If this CD's rather terse and non-obvious name is curious, trying to
  delve it's clouded identity is downright perplexing!  What makes an
  adult CD "adult"? Nudity? PGG1 certainly has that - and of both
  sexes. Graphic sex? PGG1 pretty much misses on this one unless you
  count exhibitionism and touching/caressing. What if, in addition to
  the nudity, there are scans of churches, landscapes, etc.? PGG1 has
  a number of those as well. How about "swimsuit GIFs"? PGG1 has its
  share of those, too. What do they do for/against a particular CD's
  identity? Your guess is as good as mine.

  The majority of PGG1's scans are of nude women, with lesser numbers
  of what I call "Hard R" scans and "G" scans. Still, there's enough
  of the latter to make one unsure just what PGG1 is trying to be. [As
  a related aside, Lee Noga has said Busty Babes Volume II will have
  some shareware on it. Talk about a confused identity!  I'm anxiously
  waiting to see how that combination "looks and feels".] In sum, the
  diversity of PGG1's contents makes it somewhat difficult to discuss
  its scans in generalities, especially when relating to aspects other
  than technical merits and production values.  On these two planes,
  PGG1 scores pretty high. The vast majority of the images are well
  lit, framed, and composed. Not counting the corrupted files
  previously mentioned, there appear to be few scanner-related goofs,
  etc. that spoil otherwise acceptable images, as has happened with
  other CDs.

  Perhaps a better title for this CD, or one just as good as "PGG1",
  would have been "Daughter of GIFFY Gold". (However, that name might
  inspire as unfortunate an acronym as the original name, with just as
  unfortunate a pronunciation.) There is a LARGE number of scans of
  the "GIFFY Girls" on this CD scattered across various directories.
  How many, if any, are repeated from GIFFY Gold I can't say.
  Certainly some of the names and um, faces seem familiar. Now that's
  either good news or bad news depending on one's viewpoint.
  Personally, I found GIFFY Gold to be without much merit.

  What's more disappointing for me, but harder to quantify, is that
  like GIFFY Gold, most of the scans of the GIFFY Girls have an
  amateurish quality about them. Call me "Picky" if you want, but
  photographs whose backgrounds include electrical outlets and phone
  cords, or are posed merely on a carpet in an otherwise seemingly
  empty room, or up against a blank wall, or starkly in an empty
  corner, etc. etc. etc. are NOT appealing. The whole scenario
  screams: "Look, Ma! I can take nudie pictures, too!" The idea that
  anyone would be brash enough to pawn such works off on CUSTOMERS
  under a rubric of art or erotica is disappointing to say the least.
  Comparing these images to what they're rather pathetically trying to
  emulate is like comparing homebrew to a fine wine. Certainly, not
  all of the GIFFY Girls' scans are of this ilk. Many of the alfresco
  scans are quite good. Of course, if you prefer "amateurs" or
  so-called "real people" in photos of generally "snapshot" quality,
  this might well be a strong plus for you. For myself, I much prefer
  the (happily numerous) scans like those included from David
  Thompson/TFA.

  Further general discussion of PGG1's imagery is difficult owing to
  the diversity of the CD's contents.  Accordingly, a few specific
  notes about the images in some of the directories will wrap up this
  review.

  o The "animation" files in \ANIMATIO are new - that's the good news.
  The bad news is that they don't compare well with what one has come
  to expect. Frankly, I found them boring. That is to say, the ones I
  could get to run I found boring. Almost all of the self-executing
  EXE files either locked up my PC to the hard boot stage, or
  summarily aborted with a divide overflow error at start up leaving
  my display set in 40-column mode. I was glad this is a small
  directory.

  o The images in \ART are pretty good "G" scans, but again, one has
  to wonder what they're doing on a self-proclaimed adult disk.

  o The scans in the \BOND_ART and \DTP_ART, besides being almost
  completely redundant with each other, were particularly poor, IMO.
  Understand, these are line art drawings, not photographs. If
  producers want to include scans of drawings on their adult CDs, they
  should, IMO, stick with the likes of Vallejo.

  o I could not comprehend the 40 scans in \FEET of (guess what)
  peoples' feet, nor could I appreciate beyond some initial mild
  amusement the 58 cartoon-like scans in \FURRY which were mostly of
  foxes or cats standing erect, with human female busts attached.

  o The scans in the \NEWSCHOO directory had me really wondering what
  I was looking at until I decided that they were photos of a "new
  school" of photography in progress, along with what could only have
  been some of its students' lab or homework assignments. Undoubtedly,
  it was PHOTO-101 class time.

  o I DID NOT appreciate \OUTTAKES's scans. Why in the world would
  anyone want to include their culls in their final product? Since
  there are 63 scans here, that means about 9.8 Mb of wasted space. Of
  course, one could also wryly say that it provides the producers with
  an excuse to claim 9.8 Mb more of "product" in their advertising -
  but then one would probably be labeled as "biased".

  o The \PIERCING and \TATTOO directories provide a few rather bizarre
  images for those so inclined, or the curious. Unfortunately, there
  are too many dups or "near dups" between/among them. There's some
  additional scans of this type in the \TFP (for Todd Friedmann
  Photography) directory if one's interested.

  Bottom line: If you're looking for a hodge-podge collection of GIFs
  ranging from terrible through so-so and on up to terrific, across a
  wide variety of subject matter, and you want to view these images
  via Windows ('tho the use of an alternate viewer isn't precluded),
  then this CD could fill your needs. Otherwise, pick something else.

... Not tonight, dear.  I have a modem.
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From: BOB BRODOVSKY                          Number: 5054
  To: SAL PEDONE                               Date: 09/22/93  1:13a
Subj: Wanted comptons                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 09-20-93 SAL  Said this about Wanted comptons to JEFF JENKINS. 
 
SP>-> Anyone have Compton's MPC encyclopedia for sale? 
SP>-> used, that is? 
SP>-> leave mail... 
 
SP> Have one thats been opened and looked at once...v1.01W Compton's 
SP> MM Ency for Windows...Asking $35 shipped if prepaid...Let 
SP> me know....Sal  912-956-5163  6pm-9pm EST 
 
I'm intrested in it. Would you consider a trade for a game cd or two? 
 
Bob 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5055
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/22/93  2:28p
Subj: CD-Rom Closeout                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Computer Works is having a closeout sale on all adult CD-Roms. 
The following discs are all for sale for $29.00 to adults only over the 
age of 21 while supplies last: 
 
***************************** $29.00 Each ****************************** 
 
101 Sex Positions Part 1                Luscious Ladies 
101 Sex Positions Part 2                My Private Collection Vol 2 
Adult Palate Volume 1                   NightWatch Interactive 
Adult Reference Library                 PC-Pix Volume 2 
Animation Fantasies Vol 1               PC-Pix Volume 3 
Animation Fantasies Vol 2               Pork-Ware 1 
Asian Ladies                            Pork-Ware 2 
Busty Babes Volume 1 Rel 2              Private Pictures 
Busty Babes Volume 1 Rel 3              Seymore Butts 
Digital Dancing                         Seventh Heaven 
Digital Dreams                          Southern Beauties 
Ecstasy Hot Pics Vol 1                  So Much Stareware 
Erotic Encounters Vol 1                 Storm I 
Erotic Encounters Vol 2                 Storm II 
Hidden Obsessions                       Storm III 
GBL Alternative Lifestyles              Total Fantasy Disc 1 
Hot Pix Volume 2                        Visual Fantasies 
Hot Pix Volume 3 
Hot Pix Volume 4 
Hot Pix Volume 5 
 
***************************** $29.00 Each ****************************** 
 
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales!    Download catalog.zip for our latest 
(205) 793-4481 Voice            list of available CD-Roms & prices. 
(205) 671-0092 BBS              Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5056
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 09/22/93  2:28p
Subj: Damar Enterprises                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DP>CD OS/2Box (version 1.00) - DEALERS ONLY!  We are now accepting pre-orders f

  >the OS/2Box.  This disk is chock full of HUNDREDS of megs worth of 
  >OS/2 apps, games, utils, drivers, and MORE!  Featuring a Graphical 
  >User Interface for the OS/2 environment, this is THE disk for you 
  >OS/2 folks. 
 
Hi Dave.  Would you mind defining "HUNDREDS" for me please?  Is it 
anywhere close to 6 hundred?  I have a lot of customers who are not 
looking to buy a disc with much less than 600 megs.  Thanks. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: TODD HUGHES                            Number: 5057
  To: BILL JONES                               Date: 09/22/93  2:29p
Subj: CD ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     Hi i saw your message for cd-roms. I was wondering if you 
have any for $100 or less.  I would like my parent's to buy me 
one for christmas.  If your selling them for that price and 
you'll have them in about a month or two i'll show my parent's 
so hopefully the'll get me one.
                           Thanks,  Todd Hughes

 
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From: PHILLIP DAMPIER                        Number: 5058
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/22/93  2:29p
Subj: Catalogs & Lists                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll gladly accept any catalogs or lists of CD-ROMs for sale. I'd like to make
this information available to the 111 members we have in our net here in
Rochester.

Mr. Phillip M. Dampier
Greater Rochester Fidonet Association
3176 Elmwood Avenue
Rochester, NY  14618-2096

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 5059
  To: SHANE HEDRICK                            Date: 09/22/93  2:30p
Subj: Re: CD's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SH>}}}}}} On 08-18-93  06:54 Gene said to Shane {{{{{{
SH> SH>                 Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective



SH> GE> $10 is offered

SH>   Gene,
SH>        Not at this time.
SH>                           Shane

      If you still have my offer is still open.
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From: HANK PETERSON                          Number: 5060
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/22/93  2:30p
Subj: Re: CD's for Women                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (19 Sep 93) Bob Jackson wrote to Hank Peterson...

 BJ> SHOWOFF doesn't/can't display them because the GIF isn't really on the
 BJ> CD, just in the catalog. My unconfirmed suspicion is that a few GIFs
 BJ> were deleted at the last minute AFTER the catalogs had already been
 BJ> generated. Recall, this release (#3) was brought out, at least in
 BJ> part,
 BJ> to assuage some problems with copyrights. Discretion being the better
 BJ> part of valor, probably some last minute deletes were made. Some
 BJ> examples that would seem to fit this paradigm are the L_TERRI0 through
 BJ> L_TERRI8 GIFs in the BUSTY4 directory. The model is Teri Weigel:
 BJ> ex-Penthouse Pet and current XXX actress. She/Her studio probably owns
 BJ> all the rights to all of her images making it kinda "iffy" (to say the
 BJ> least) to put them on a CD. Ask Lee Noga...

      
   Thanks for the explaination. I love copyright law. Can you just 
   imagine a court hearing on the subject of GIF's on BB. You'd need
   a "take a number machine" at the front door of the court room, when the
   discussion turned to poolstick handles and champagne bottles. I bet
   the smoke alarm would go off and they would need to evacuate the building.
   I wonder if Lee Noga has thought about a "Fire Sale".

... Socates died of an overdose of wedlock

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From: LYLE DIXSON                            Number: 5061
  To: RODNEY RUDD                              Date: 09/22/93  2:30p
Subj: DAK CD-ROM SUPPORT                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

.RR> While we're on the topic of DAK "support", I'd like to complain a littl.
.RR> about the ROBOTS that man the 1-800-DAK-0800 credit card ordering line..
.RR> addition to knowning NOTHING about the products, they are unable to gra.
.RR> the simplest of requests, such as giving delivering instructions to UPS.
.RR> know, where they tell UPS to get a signature instead of just dropping t.
.............................................................................
I have the same problems and complaints... There 800 ordering
"Robots" are extremely rude and impatient.   I could not even ask
them for the bottom line total on my order because they simply cut
me off, they don't even say thanks for ordering from them... just a
totally inhuman responses.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5062
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 09/22/93  2:30p
Subj: The PGG1 CD....                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

arrived today (Monday 9/20). I'll try to get to it this week or this weekend 
for sure. Thanks for the opportunity to review it!

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From: R.P. MEGGS                             Number: 5063
  To: PAUL SWIDER                              Date: 09/22/93  2:30p
Subj: Total Fantasy XXX CD                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On <16 Sep, 09:18>, Paul Swider wrote to All :
PS> Just wondering if anybody has had a chance to check this CD out and how
PS> does it compare to others. Is it another rehash or is it really something
PS> new ? Appreciate any inputs. Thanks in advance. >Paul<
    Hi Paul,
    Just checked out the total fantasy cd, got it from Mike Shannon at
    Starvector. Good price, super service! Anyway, I personally really
    like it, high quality scans, does have a lot of different pix on it
    and an excellent variety if animations. Lots of directories...Even
    the descriptions are different..Would rank it up there with BBabes.
    Liked it better than Ecstasy Hot Pix or FAO. Not for the timid.

                                                    RP

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5064
  To: THE SISTER                               Date: 09/22/93  2:30p
Subj: Re: CD's for Women                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-16-93 19:47> The Sister wrote:

TS>> Let's move this to the Adultlinks Cd-rom Echo. Out of the way of
TS>> Prying Eyes!

My HUB has no clue to this "New" echo, so my choices are the sale echo on that
link--ANy other suggestions, shall we try netmail--My address is 1:3618/23 or
69:23/23.

Hugs,

Me  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5065
  To: STEVE GERWECK                            Date: 09/22/93  2:31p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES II PREORD               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-17-93 13:09> Steve Gerweck wrote:

SG>> Do you have a catalog?  If so, please send me one.  I'll post my
SG>> address in
SG>> my tagline.

NO catalog, but we will personally notify all that have registered or asked to
be notified of all new disc releases--GOTCHA NOW in the Database! :)

SG>> I hope you're female! :)

Thru and Thru !

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: ROD JESSEN @ 910/512                   Number: 5066
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 09/22/93  2:36p
Subj: Mailing List                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'd like to be on your mailing list for Night Owl 10 and onward, as well
as others you might sell:

Rod Jessen
The Clovis Connection
PO Box 594
Clovis, CA 93613

Thanks


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From: DAVID SMITH                            Number: 5067
  To: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                         Date: 09/22/93  2:39p
Subj: Night Owl v10 Pre-Release               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 09-19-93 JEFF COLLINGWOOD wrote to DAVID SMITH...

 JC> Sorry, no, you sent this to the wrong person.

Woops... Sorry about that!

... OFFLINE 1.52
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From: MIKE BRAUN                             Number: 5068
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/22/93  2:39p
Subj: CDROM FOR-SALE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

to all!!

        MITSUMI high speed internal cd-rom drive for sale or trade for a
        lower grade rom like NEC rom player!! Mitsumi does not support
        os/2 so i am selling or tradding this one for another rom drive!
        This one works great in dos but not at all in os/2!! If you have
        no trade i'm looking to get $225!! 

                                            MITSUMI DRIVE
                                            SPEED 350MSEC
                                            TRANSFER RATE 150KB/SEC
                                            XA UPGRADEABLE
                                            PHOTO-CD UPGRADEABLE
                                            CD-AUDIO JACK
                                            BUS DEDICATED
                                            WIN-NT COMPATIBLE
         With software and card!! Only 3 months old!!! Must sell or
         trade!! please contact me at (203)347-3842 or send fido to
         MUSTANGMIKES BBS 1:320/3842 THANKYOU SYSOP MIKE BRAUN!!

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5069
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/22/93  2:40p
Subj: DARREN SELLNER                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 MS> <<Geez, this middleman stuff sucks>>

I hear that....no money in it <g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5070
  To: ALL CD DRIVE VENDORS                     Date: 09/22/93  2:40p
Subj: scsi units                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a customer who is looking for several cheap SCSI units for BBS
use....anybody sell them?  He's opening up a 10 node bbs in Dallas with 2
Pioneer units for starters......

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5071
  To: GREG ISOKRARI                            Date: 09/22/93  2:40p
Subj: Adult CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

             ************************************************
              PCJ ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST - Last update: 9/06
             ************************************************
             Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)  ** BBS Ready
             Orders - 800-547-7817 / Inquiries - 615-339-0235
 
 101 POSITIONS 1..(Professionally produced educational movies)...39.95
 101 POSITIONS 2..(Professionally produced educational movies)...39.95
 ADULT PALATE..(Stills from films-Hi-Rez-Windows)................29.95
 ADULT REFERENCE LIBRARY..(500 MB-2500 Gifs-Fetishes Galore).....23.95
 AFTER DARK Trilogy..(Movie shorts-video for windows included)...43.95
 ALL BEAUTIES..(Swimsuit to adult-600 meg-SVGA/Animations).......29.95
 AMATEUR MODELS..(500+ centerfold pics-All SVGA or 24 bit **)....33.95
 AMERICAN GIRLS..(High quality models/centerfolds by S. Hicks)...34.95
 ANIMATION FANTASIES I..(105 animations/moving pics).............28.95
 ANIMATION FANTASIES II..(105 animations/moving pics)............28.95
 ASIAN LADIES..(660 mb-oriental x-rated pics **).................31.95
 BEST of VIVID Clips..(Movie clips using T.M.M. technology)......39.95
 BUSTY BABES..(Gifs-800+ celebrities-amateur **).................26.95
 DEEP THROAT..(The original classic-Windows).....................42.95
 DIGITAL DANCING..(Interactive strip game).......................48.95
 DIGITAL DREAMS..(All R-SVGA-660+ mb **).........................26.95
 DIRTY TALK..(Movie-38 minutes-4 ladies).........................44.95
 DOORS of PASSION..(Interactive movie-hidden doors)..............46.95
 ECSTASY Hot Pics I..(560 mb-330 anims-470 stories-2600 gifs **).26.95
 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 1..(710 mb-4300+ gifs/viewers)................34.95
 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2..(like version 1)...........................34.95
 EXTREME DELIGHT.................................................44.95
 FOR ADULTS ONLY 2..(680+ mb-VGA/SVGA gifs-anims-games-text **)..36.95
 GBL..(Gay/Bi/Lez-400+ hard to find alternate lifesytle pics)....36.95
 GIFFY GOLD..(All R-Giffy girls-San Diego models **).............34.95
 GIRLS of VIVID 1..(500+ hand picked slides).....................39.95
 GIRLS OF VIVID 2..(500+ hand picked slides-no dupes with 1).....39.95
 HIDDEN OBSESSIONS..(Fractal compression movie-runs from DOS)....47.95
 HIGH VOLUME NUDES..(500+ great photos)..........................38.95
 HOT HUNKS..(All males)..........................................38.95
 HOUSE of SLEEPING BEAUTIES..(Adult Movies)......................46.95
 ISLAND GIRLS..(Vga gifs-swimsuits/nudes-Hawaii).................44.95
 KAMA SUTRA..(Movie clips using T.M.M. technology)...............44.95
 LEGENDS OF PORN..(Quicktime movies of the stars)................44.95
 LOCAL GIRLS..(Vga gifs-swimsuits/nudes-Hawaii)..................44.95
 LUSCIOUS LADIES.................................................34.95
 MANPOWER..(All gay-1600 gifs-SVGA-no install needed **).........34.95
 MOVING FANTASIES..(200 adult movie shorts-GL/FLI)...............25.95
 MY FIRST TIME..(80 Minutes-2 discs-movie).......................36.95
 MY PRIVATE COLLECTION I.(675 mb-SVGA gifs **)...................32.95
 MY PRIVATE COLLECTION II.(650 mb-SVGA gifs-no dupes with v1 **).32.95
 MYSTIQUE of the ORIENT..(600 meg-movies)........................44.95
 NEW WAVE HOOKERS..(Movie featuring Ginger Lynn).................44.95
 NIGHT WATCH (Interactive full-length movie).....................47.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 2..(530 mb-scans/amusements **).................25.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 3..(630 mb **)..................................25.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 4..(Best of Windy City scans **)................25.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 5..(**).........................................25.95
 PC-PIX 1..(600+ mb gifs **).....................................29.95
 PC-PIX 2..(630+ mb gifs-no dupes with v1 **)....................29.95
 PC-PIX 3..(660+ mb gifs-no dupes with v1 or v2 **)..............29.95
 PHOTO GALLERY..(R-rated-best of Penthouse shoot-Steve Hicks)....36.95
 PHONE SEX..(500 meg-erotic conversations-8/16 bit Sterso-Wav)...24.95
 PHYSICAL THERAPY..(Replacement for XXX Extreme).................21.95
 PORKWARE 1..(2024 gifs-37 targa files-660 mb)...................31.95
 PORKWARE 2..(3308 gifs-135 movies-648 mb).......................31.95
 PRIVATE PICTURES 1..(600 images-70 mini-movies).................35.95
 RIMFIRE PACIFIC..(Best of adult movie clips)....................44.95
 SEEDY Rom #1....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #2....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #3....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #4....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #5....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #6....................................................24.95
 SEEDY ROM 6-Pak..(29,000+ files-no dupes-gifs/anims/text)......128.95
 SEEDY ROM 7th Heaven..(2900+ gifs)..............................30.95
 SEEDY ROM MOVIE Disc..(Best of amateur/profsnl-60+ minutes).....38.95
 SEYMORE BUTTS (Interactive movie disc-100+ minutes-Windows).....47.95
 SMUTWARE..(640+ mb-1000 SVGA gifs-2000 VGA gifs-100 anims **)...26.95
 SO MUCH STAREWARE..(579 mb-2600 gifs-text-200 anims-sound **)...31.95
 SOUTHERN BEAUTIES..(1000+ gifs-all new-SVGA from slides)........29.95
 STORM I..(700+ mb-5268 VGA gifs-87 anims-574 stories **)........22.95
 STORM II..(656+ mb-VGA/SVGA gifs-slide shows **)................22.95
 STORM III..(3000+ stills-half gay **)...........................22.95
 STORM 3-Pak..(ALL 3 CDs)........................................67.95
 TOTAL FANTASY 1..(From Denmark-3750+ gifs-220+ animations **)...27.95
 VISUAL FANTASIES..(600+ mb-2600+ gifs)..........................34.95
 WICKED-X..(Movies using Kodak Photo CD technology-included).....49.95
 VOLCANO..(400 VGA-900 SVGA R-rated gifs)........................32.95
 XXX-XTreme..(Best of overseas scans/automations)................29.95

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5072
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/22/93  2:40p
Subj: Busty Babes vol.1 #1                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I also have a Vol. 1 #1 for sale to the highest bidder......

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From: JOHN ENGLAND                           Number: 5073
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/22/93  2:43p
Subj: Sb-pro compatibility                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone know if what kind of port for a CD-ROM drive the SB-PRO sound card
has ? Is it SCSI ? What CD-ROM drives can be directly connected to it ? Thanks
!

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From: RON HAYS                               Number: 5074
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 09/20/93  6:46a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi lu005 problem               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> In a moment of brilliance, Randy Neuner spoke to Heather Krause, about Mit
 RN> Has anyone else had problems with their Mitsumi LU005 drive?  I have

I have pretty much the same set-up you have on a 486-33, and havn't had a
lick of problems with it, The cable their sending to you may very well be the
problem. The ribbon cables they use, have mass produced clip on ends, and
can be easily dammaged, or loose contact.
              Ron Hays



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From: RUSSELL NABER                          Number: 5075
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/21/93 11:15p
Subj: Review of STAREware                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Bob!

Saturday September 18 1993, Bob Jackson writes to All:

 BJ>   First, many thanks to Mike Shannon of Starvector for providing a copy
 BJ>   of STAREware for review.  Mike is one of those "special" dealers who

 BJ> ... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
 BJ> -+- Blue Wave/RA v2.10
 BJ>  + Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 |  (1:106/30.0)


Just curious Bob, do you have a .zip file with all your reviews to-date?


Russell

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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 5076
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 09/21/93 11:16p
Subj: Cd for sale.                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The Software Toolworks Cd Deluxe 2.

Includes: TST's World Atlas, US Atlas, Reference Library and the game,
The Secret of Monkey Island.

$15 or make me an offer, will ship USPS 2nd day for $2.

Will consider trade.
 
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5077
  To: BILL DENNISON                            Date: 09/21/93 11:19p
Subj: Re: CDROM SPECIAL                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Boris,
>>        Will you be carrying the Night Owl #10 disk?  I've seen an
>>        offer for $39,  but know _someone_ out there will have a
>>     much more reasonable price of $25 or so like all the other
>>     Night Owl disks. <g>

Sure will Bill, but until we have the product in our hands, we will not
post a price as it can and will change, but I can assure you it will be
less than the $39. most are posting on pre-orders.

As I always say " First On The Block doesn't mean you get the best price.
Wait a few days and save some $$ !!"

Chat with you soon.....

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5078
  To: SCOTT OGILVIE                            Date: 09/21/93 11:19p
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    BO*  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX
>>    216-225-6759

>>    Boris where do you ship from?

>>    Scott Ogilvie

We ship out of Ohio, which really isn't to far from you as we just spent
the last week and a half in your area talking to several Canadian dealers.

If we can be of help, please feel free to call our 800 number to place your
order, you'll be happy you did !!

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5079
  To: ARNOLD SMITH                             Date: 09/21/93 11:19p
Subj: Re: Wanted Microsoft Bookshelf          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I would like to purchase bookshelf. Ill buy from the lowest
>>    bidder. Thanks Arnold

We have MicroSoft's Works and Bookshelf on one cd and it's priced
at $80. for the both of them.

Interested, please feel free to give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime
if you have any questions or 800-243-0517 if you'd like to place an
order.

Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 5080
  To: JOHN ROMERO                              Date: 09/21/93  8:59p
Subj: ADULT CD'S                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What do you have, Ill bid as well....

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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 5081
  To: JOHN ROMERO                              Date: 09/21/93  9:07p
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

John, what titles do you have, I would be interested in trading/buying... Bob

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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 5082
  To: ROBERT KUMMER                            Date: 09/21/93  9:08p
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Robert... what titles do you have, if you still have the 2 adult cd;s Ill offer
$45 if you ship.... let me know! Thanks...bob

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From: PAUL NALEY                             Number: 5083
  To: MICHAEL GRAHAM                           Date: 09/22/93  2:25a
Subj: Encyclopedia                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG>Does anyone sale an ENCYCLOPEDIA on CD for BBS's to work in a DOOR.
MG>(DOOR.SYS)

MG>If not this would be a good idea for someone to work on.
MG>It would be nice if users could look up a subject, read it, and if
MG>needed, to have it zipped up to be able to download it. No need for PICS
MG>or SOUNDCARDS, Straight TEXT/ANSI/@ANSI@. Would be nice it it would
MG>work for multi-line systems also.

MG>Other cd's for BBS's would be great. Such as Reference Librarys,
MG>National Phone Books, ect...


The CD ROM disks that you are planning to put online are Commercial and
only licensed to the single indvidual who registered the software. They
can not be place online legally unless you have a written agreement or
site license from the Author or Software Manufacturer.

 * OLX 2.2 * A bird in the bush can't mess in your hand!


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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 5084
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/21/93  1:41a
Subj: <> CD-ROM TITLES & MORE <>              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Doug,

 > Hope that will clear this up.  If anyone else has any qualms regarding
 > with dealing with PCJ, I will be more than happy to provide you with any
 > amount of references of happy/satisfied customers.

          I would like to become a satisfied customer as well Doug!  How
abouti, what's the state of my order which was placed on your BBS a while back?
 I have had an order from Boris, delivered (with one case broken) returned and
replaced, but STILL nothing from you.



                                                   Cheers,

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From: MICHAEL KOKOTT                         Number: 5085
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/19/93  1:34a
Subj: OS 2.1                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello,

Im looking for a OS 2 2.1 Version on CD, best a German Version!
You have one?? Give me a NM!

Thanx
Michael
--
** BYE BYE sagt Michael (bloeder Fuss, aber besser als vorher) **



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From: MIKE CICCOLINI                         Number: 5086
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/22/93  8:14a
Subj: Mitsumi LU005 problems                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN>Has anyone else had problems with their Mitsumi LU005 drive?  I have two of
RN>them.  Both worked well for a few months, then one started to fail to
RN>read SOME of my shareware discs.

I am no expert and am still learning about CD-ROM technology and am
asking a question more than I am Offering a solution but could it be
the storage capacity of the disk is too large for the MITSUMI drive. 
From what I have been reading in these messages, the MITSUMI only has 
a capacity for reading disks up to 600 megs and some disk carry a 
capacity of 650 megs. Could it be that when you reboot your system,
you can access the latter part of the disk because the first part of 
disk has already been read and not in memory?

Like I said I am more interested in the answer myself because I am
in the market for a CD-ROM and I have some reservations on the MITSUMI.
I have always believed that you get what you pay for and the MITSUMI
seems to be awfully cheap compared to all the other CD-ROMS.

                                        
                                        Mike ~Chic~
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5087
  To: MIKE CICCOLINI                           Date: 09/21/93  1:15p
Subj: MITSUMI CD AND MUSIC CD'S               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Can anyone tell me if the mitsumi CD can play music cd's like the ones used on
>my stereo?

Yes. I've used my LU-002 (original 600ms drive) that way back when I forst got
it for a short time.

>What else would I need to have to be able to run a CD rom without any
problems.

The Mitsumi comes with it's own controller card - and my Mitsumi has coexisted
with an IN-2000 in my BBS machine for 6+ months now.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Anyone that willingly runs Windows DESERVES what they get

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5088
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 09/21/93  3:51p
Subj: ADULT CD ROM'S                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Just curious, and looking for a few recommendations...I would like to know
what
>folks consider as their favorite adult CD

So Much Stareware for me, so far - but I've not had the time to really go
through very many of the others....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Nee!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5089
  To: NORMAN                                   Date: 09/21/93  4:09p
Subj: SOUND BOARDS & CD ROMS                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Am considering purchasing a Mitsumi CD ROM and am wondering what kind of a
>sound board to buy with it.

The ATI Stereo/FX CD and the Aztec Sound Galaxy NX (may have mangled the last
name a bit?) will run your Mitsumi drive without needing the controller Mitsumi
bundles with the drive.


 * SLMR 2.1a * People Don't Own Cats, Cats Own PEOPLE!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5090
  To: JOEL WHITE                               Date: 09/21/93  4:01p
Subj: CD OF BBS STUFF                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Does anyone know of any cd's that are all bbs programs?  I don't mean bbs
ready
>stuff for download... I mean door games, front doors, utilities for use in
>Wildcat, Spitfire, RBBS, etc.

I have heard of such a disc, but don't remember the name offhand.

 RBBS-in-a-Box sorta fits your description, but not REAL closely.

 Shareware Online II (which I can sell you at $35) claims to have "many up-to-
date BBS programs" on the disk, as well as BBS directories for "virtually every
major type of BBS software" on-disc. 600+ Megs, around 4500 files.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Visit scenic Melnibone' - it's better via sea!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5091
  To: CHARLES STRUSZ                           Date: 09/21/93  4:04p
Subj: U.S. MAIL                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I have dumped UPS completely.  I use USPS Priority for small stuff and Roadway
>Parcel Express for the goodies.

UPS either bought out Roadway or Roadway bought out UPS sometime in the last
year or two - or so it would appear.
 I keep getting "UPS label" stuff from Roadway trucks, anyway....


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From: LOUIS SOKOL                            Number: 5092
  To: JAMES DESOTELLE                          Date: 09/21/93  7:27a
Subj: Chemisty CD Wanted                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JD> I am searching for a chemistry CD that has all the elements and its
JD> properties, or something simuliar.  I am not sure if one exists or 
JD> notbut if you know any info on this, or where I can get one please 

I have access to several chemistry CDs for education, but most of them are for
Apple.  What grade level are you looking for?  Call me at 713/265-1010 for more
information.  JET Computer Services (specializing in educational and technical
software). 

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5093
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 09/21/93 10:36p
Subj: Cd for sale.                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Chris!

18 Sep 93, Chris Snyder writes to All Users:

 CS> The Software Toolworks Cd Deluxe 2.

 CS> Includes: TST's World Atlas, US Atlas, Reference Library and the game,
 CS> The Secret of Monkey Island.

 CS> $15 or make me an offer, will ship USPS 2nd day for $2.

I will take it 512-939-9822 or reply

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5094
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 09/22/93  8:15a
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Mark!

20 Sep 93, Mark Johnsen writes to Pat Rickerson:


 MJ> Sounds good Pat, leave me a message with your address and I'll get the AL
 MJ> and $15 off to you.  My address is as follows:

 MJ>                                 .\\ark Johnsen
 MJ>                                10B Texas Street
 MJ>                           Satellite Beach, Fl  32937
 MJ>                       (407) 773-4339 [5:30 - 10pm, EST]

That is fine, my address is
411 Ninth St. NAS
Corpus Christi, Tx 78418
Will get it mait to ya in a day or so!

Thank's
Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5095
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 09/23/93  8:09a
Subj: Cd for sale.                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Chris!

21 Sep 93, Chris Snyder writes to All Users:

 CS> The Software Toolworks Cd Deluxe 2.

 CS> Includes: TST's World Atlas, US Atlas, Reference Library and the game,
 CS> The Secret of Monkey Island.

 CS> $15 or make me an offer, will ship USPS 2nd day for $2.

Will take it need address! 512-939-9822

Pat

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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 5096
  To: ALAN H. ORNDORFF JR.                     Date: 09/22/93 11:46a
Subj: OS/2 CD Wanted                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> Does anyone know of a CD made up especially with OS/2 programs.  If you
>> have such an animal, please reply with contents, and cost.

I have the following:

 Hobbes OS/2  June 1993    $15.00  640+ Megs of OS/2, bunches of
                                   must have utils for OS/2 2.x,tons
                                   of other stuff for 1.x to 2.x.

Postage and Insurance is $5.00 per order, 2nd day priority shipping.
I will ship COD.  Add $5.00 per order for COD charges.

Send checks/money orders to, and/or feel free to contact:

Eric Bravick
USF 3008
4202 E. Fowler Ave.
Tampa, FL. 33620-3008

(813) 985-9619 (Voice)
(813) 985-9723 (BBS)
Netmail 1:377/53.0


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From: BILL MILLER                            Number: 5097
  To: REBEL                                    Date: 09/21/93  9:24p
Subj: Cd rom for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I know I already sent you this message but just to make sure. I'll take
it. Please sell me this rom. I'm desperate. I'm on a limited budget and
have been searching for a cd-rom for months. My voice # is 215-461-4739
call after 6. Or write me via this net. Thanks
                                     Bill Miller

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From: BILL MILLER                            Number: 5098
  To: MICHIAL THOMPSON                         Date: 09/21/93  9:29p
Subj: CD Rom For Sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll give you $125 and pay shipping. Do we have a deal? Write me via
this net.
          Bill Miller

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From: BILL MILLER                            Number: 5099
  To: JOHN ENGLAND                             Date: 09/21/93  9:47p
Subj: Mitsumi 300ms                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi John(Jeff) I'll take the Mitsumi if your still sellin it. Write me
via this net.
              Bill Miller

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From: BILL JONES                             Number: 5100
  To: ANDY BILAK                               Date: 09/22/93  2:43p
Subj: Re: FOR SALE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Sorry Andy but all the CD's went to one person a couple days ago.
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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 5101
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/22/93  2:45p
Subj: CD'S FOR WOMEN                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>LN> We apologize, and we bare our bottoms in shame :)


BJ>I very seriously doubt that your bare bottom is anything to be ashamed
BJ>of, Lee. Of course, seeing would be believing ((:>  GD&R...

I called Lee the other day, and wanted tickets to the pissing contest,
now don't tell me there is something else I need to get tickets for...

Damn.

BOB
:-)

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From: JIM OXFORD                             Number: 5102
  To: BOB HALL                                 Date: 09/22/93  2:45p
Subj: Re: CD'S FOR WOMEN                      Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93  7:38p                       Private: No 

 > 
 > Damn.
 > 
 > BOB
 > :-)
 > 

   Looks like Mr Pivot is on the prowl again!

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From: RICHARD VONZEL                         Number: 5103
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/22/93  2:45p
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVES FOR SALE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

   I have 3 Mitsumi 8 bit internal drives for sale, all in great condition and
have been working on my bbs for sometime. 150.00 + C.O.D. Great for a bbs.
Contact me here or netmail me a 1:282/3022


Richard

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From: DAVE RYDER                             Number: 5104
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/22/93  2:46p
Subj: SPECIAL                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Message entered on Sep 18,93 by BORIS OSADCIW to ALL
***********************************************************************
BO>                  C D R O M  B L O W  O U T  S P E C I A L S

BO> Mayo Clinic - $20.   San Diego Zoo The Animals! - $20.

BO> ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517

    Boris, is this number available from Canada?  From (416) I receeived
    a message indicating that it was not available from this calling
    area.

    At any rate, I was interested inthe above 2 cds.  Do you have a BBS
    number to place an order or download a catalog?

    I had sent netmail earlier and received no response, but that may
    have been a problem on this end.

Dave.
 Entered Sep 20,93 from Mississauga, Ontario.    rn.1063@rose.com
   
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From: NINO FAGAN                             Number: 5105
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/19/93 11:07p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   Boris Osadciw wrote  
ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͸
ù>**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S *************
ù>Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $439.00 
ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ;

Boris,
 
 I got this unit with the computer I bought.  Trying to get a
technical manual for it.  Received NO paper work at all on the
unit, nor does the computer company provide any.
 
 Can you get a technical manual for the 3401B?  If so will be
more than happy to pay the cost + commission (reasonable). :)

Regards, 
Nino
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From: MARTIN BELCKE                          Number: 5106
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/22/93 10:12a
Subj: Hackers World MONSTER-I                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**********************************************************
******* NOTICE **** NOTICE **** NOTICE **** NOTICE *******
**********************************************************

Tired of the same OLD files you find on other CD-ROMS?

Tired of the same OLD "files" added to the CD because
there aren't enough good programs?

Tired of getting ripped off?

               YOU NEED HACKERS WORLD
                    MONSTER-I CD

This CD has over 4,000 files that are all 1993.  There are
NO fillers, GIFS, or Adult Files.  Only QUALITY programs
are on this CD.  We guarantee it!!  BBS Ready.............

                $45.00  (Shipping included)

(309) 672-4406 Voice (M-F 10-6 Central) (309) 672-4436 FAX
(309) 672-4447 USR D/S Lines            (309) 672-4405 Data

Master Card/Visa/Personal Checks/Company Checks/Cash

Call today and order your own personal copy................

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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 5107
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/22/93  6:36p
Subj: SPECIAL                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   Are any of these disks usable on a MAcintosh Centris 610 with an
Apple Cd300? It says it 'reads' other formats....?
   The San Diego Zoo one sounds interesting


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From: MATT HENDRIX                           Number: 5108
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/22/93  1:10p
Subj: space quest4                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        I have Space Quest IV (Roger Wilco and the Time Rippers).
        Anyone intersted, name a price....



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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5109
  To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                       Date: 09/21/93  9:02a
Subj: Re: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-19-93 02:51> Jean-Claude Demars wrote:

JD>> BB II is 1000 images licensed to us by the photographer
JD>> do you offer any type of satisfaction guarantee?

What is your biggest fear, that you are concerned about satisfaction ? I can
guarentee these images have never been seen before, they have been scanned in
high quality, the front end interface is a no brainer, the packaging is nice--I
can't gurantee it will meet your personal preferences, but can any disc do this
? But let me say, I don't spend 25 grand, to publish 'Loser' disc's--

We are no longer a "XXX" publishing house by choice, not because we can't get
the materials--We are specializing in name brand collections beginning after BB
II hits the market--(i.e-Venus, Hawaaian Tropic Girls, American Dream Girls,
Platinum, LA Raiderettes).

This may upset some folks and please others--"XXX" discs are too risky to
publish with regulation going on--So, we raised our horizons and landed the
contracts for other avenues......

Hope this gives you some insight :)

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5110
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/21/93  9:40a
Subj: Re: Review of STAREware                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <09-18-93 18:15> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>>   First, many thanks to Mike Shannon of Starvector for providing
BJ>>   STAREware for review.

Let me provide some insight on this disc, "STAREware"--This disc is the
knockoff of "So Much Starware" released 1991/92--The publisher sold the master
to another camp who merely changed the interface and made some improvements
over the original-- So they say.....When the disc dried up on the market in the
earlier days, there was belief that they demand was still there for it--So, it
was bought, renamed, and repressed--At one time it lived in the 'Prime', but
falls short in todays standards as duly noted in the reviews. Hope this helps.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5111
  To: RUSSELL NABER                            Date: 09/22/93 11:09a
Subj: Review of STAREware                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry, no. I've only kept paper copies of them.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5112
  To: GARY GILMORE                             Date: 09/22/93 11:17a
Subj: Review of Raincoat CDs                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I think that's a great idea, Gary. Mike Shannon published a couple of
matirices showing dups across several shareware CDs - not everything you asked
for but still useful. I haven't seen one in a while, though. I'm not
interested in shareware much so I don't do reviews of them. (I recently even
dumped all the ones I had.)

You raise a valid point. Perhaps my reviews of adult CDs annoy more people on
this echo than those that find them useful/interesting. In the past I've
relied on the moderator to tell me if/when he thinks I'm doing something
wrong, should stop, or whatever. I don't really know what else to do.
Comments, Tim?

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 5113
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/25/93  5:24p
Subj: Review of Raincoat CDs                  Refer: 8564
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> You raise a valid point. Perhaps my reviews of adult CDs annoy more p
-> this echo than those that find them useful/interesting. In the past I
-> relied on the moderator to tell me if/when he thinks I'm doing someth
-> wrong, should stop, or whatever. I don't really know what else to do.
-> Comments, Tim?

I think they're great... Keep um coming.

tim
moderator
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5114
  To: CARL SLAWINSKI                           Date: 09/24/93 10:04p
Subj: CD-ROM PREORDERS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS> MS>             We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
CS> MS>              - Cards are not processed until date of shipment -
CS> MS>
CS> MS>  NIGHT OWL 10 * What more can be said? Always the top-rated s/w
CS>CD......$35
CS> MS>  PIER 3 * 650+mb of all new material w/ no dupes to Pier 1 or
CS>2.........$39

CS>How about a bundle price on these of say: $59.  8-)

OK.  8)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5115
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/24/93 10:04p
Subj: <> CD-ROM TITLES & MORE <               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC>I usually don't or can't insure orders to Canada

Just curious . . . why not?  According to U.S. Postal publication 51, it's
only 75-cents to insure an air parcel to Canada, for up to $50 coverage.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5116
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 09/24/93 10:04p
Subj: Shareware Online #2!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC>|MS>            |  Title:  SHAREWARE ONLINE #2  |  |   Price:  $35   |     
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DC>|MS>            |_______________________________|  |_________________|     
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DC>|MS>      This outstanding new CD is the ABSOLUTE NEWEST and MOST
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It has the same format as release #1.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5117
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/25/93  1:19a
Subj: BRAND NEW OS/2 CD!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

           ______________________________________________________
          |                                                      |
          |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #3:  CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS   |
          |______________________________________________________|

            We are now taking pre-orders on the following title.
             - Cards are not processed until date of shipment -
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |      Title:  CD OS/2BOX       |  |   Price:  $29   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

     You all know about the great track record of Damar's previous
     releases:  CD-Winbox and CD-Powerbox.  Well, get ready OS/2 users,
     because the BEST and most RECENT OS/2 shareware CD is almost here!
     The demand will be high so get your name on our list if you want
     to be among the first to try out this brand new title!

     * Slick, mouse-driven graphic user interface for OS/2
     * Consists of 100% OS/2 2.0+ shareware applications. No old version
       1.x files
     * Fully BBS-ready
     * 300+mb total
     * To begin shipping around 1st week in October
     * FREE shipping on all preorders

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5118
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/25/93  1:19a
Subj: BRAND NEW CD-ROM TITLES                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #1:  NEW CD ARRIVALS   |
           |____________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

 5-STAR PREMIUM WINDOWS * Latest Windows shareware + 950 OS2 files!.....$27
 AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK 93/94 * New release. 11,000,000 businesses.$39
 ARIZONA IMAGES * Fabulous photos of the Arizona desert country.........$25
 COLOR MAGIC CLIPART * 600 megs. of 3-D color clipart.  Royalty-free....$27
 DINOSAURS! * Fabulous interactive, multimedia Dinosaur directory on CD.$34
 DR. MUSIC * Brand new offering loaded with sound and music files.......$20
 DR. GAMES * Hours upon hours of gameplaying mayhem! BBS-Ready..........$20
 DR. SHAREWARE * Just another shareware CD? No - this one's excellent!..$20
 DR. WINDOWS * Games, utilities, productivity, business, it's all here..$20
 FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$30
 GAMEWARE COLLECTION * Over 6000 of the all time best games! BBS-ready..$24
 GIGA GAMES * Brand new from Walnut Creek. Set up for 6 popular BBS's...$25
 KING'S QUEST VI * Newest in the KQ series. Better than 7th Guest!......$47
>LEARNING HEAVEN * Mind challenging educational games...................$23
 MICROSOFT BOOKSHELF 1993 * The latest CD-ROM reference library.........$58
 MICROSOFT GOLF * Multimedia Golf game that is "on par with reality"....$58
 PHOENIX 4.0 * Finally - An update to 3! Very clean CD with fresh files.$19
 PHONEDISC USA * Summer '93 edition w/ 80 million residential listings..$69
 PINACOTHECA M/M * Multimedia presentation of classical paintings.......$24
 PRECISION MAPPING 1.5 * Newest release! Detailed street-level map......$77
 REEL CLIPS * 600mb of royalty-free digital video clips.................$35
 SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
 SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 * Brand new w/ pure 1993 files! The NEWEST s/w CD!.$29
 SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD * Totally new shareware w/ no dupes to Vault 2!....$25
>STRAIGHT FROM HEAVEN * Great new religious CD w/ several online Bibles.$23

                    Adult Titles (must state age 21+)
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 AMATEUR MODELS * All original images of young models. BBS-ready........$34
 BUSTY BABES 3.0 * Newest release of top-selling disc. BBS-ready........$25
 DEEP THROAT * CD version of the famous adult flick. Truly a must-see!..$49
>DIGITAL DANCING * Interactive adult "game". Watch her strip for you!...$48
 DIRTY TALK * Full-color, full-motion video w/ adult film stars.........$49
 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2 * Sequel to release 1 with fresh, new images.......$29
>EXTREME DELIGHTS * Adult CD w/ a twist: Still pix with sound files!....$44
>HIGH VOLUME NUDES * 500 high-quality hardcore photos of centerfolds....$36
 KAMA SUTRA * Indian documentary adult film w/ narration................$49
 LUSCIOUS LADIES * Hot new adult .GIF CD with outstanding cover art.....$35
 MYSTIQUE OF THE ORIENT * 600mb movie featuring Oriental beauties.......$49
 PHONE SEX * Actual .WAV file recordings of 900-number conversations....$25
>PHOTO GALLERY * "Penthouse" type photos shot by J. Stephen Hicks.......$34
 SEYMORE BUTTS INTERACTIVE * Fantastic new "interactive" adult film.....$49
>SUPER SMUTWARE * A full CD of never-released GIF's, all 1024x768.......$33
>T&A 2 THE MAXX * Just what it sez - lots o' T & A......................$29
 TOTAL FANTASY * Newly released .GIF disc from Denmark..................$27

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5119
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/25/93  1:19a
Subj: PREVIEWS                                Refer: NONE
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Well, we didn't do very well with that last batch!  I've got a couple on
the way to you now that I KNOW you'll like!

later,
.\\ike

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From: PETE CRESSWELL                         Number: 5120
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/25/93  9:25a
Subj: MACINTOSH CDROM                         Refer: NONE
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Looking for a CDRom containing MacIntosh shareware/whatever that can be mounted
on a TBBS/DOS-based bulletin board.

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From: PETE CRESSWELL                         Number: 5121
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/25/93  9:36a
Subj: OS2 CDROM                               Refer: NONE
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Looking for an OS2-oriented CDRom to put up on a bulletin board.

Anybody got any suggestions?

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From: STEPHEN GUPTON                         Number: 5122
  To: MIKE BRAUN                               Date: 09/24/93  3:34a
Subj: CDROM FOR-SALE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Sep2403:34, Mike Braun of 1:226/1300 writes:

 MB> to all!!

 MB>         MITSUMI high speed internal cd-rom drive for sale or 
 MB> trade for a
 MB>         lower grade rom like NEC rom player!! Mitsumi does not 
 MB> support
 MB>         os/2 so i am selling or tradding this one for another rom 
 MB> drive!
 MB>         This one works great in dos but not at all in os/2!! If 
 MB> you have
 MB>         no trade i'm looking to get $225!! 

 MB>                                             MITSUMI DRIVE
 MB>                                             SPEED 350MSEC
 MB>                                             TRANSFER RATE 
 MB> 150KB/SEC
 MB>                                             XA UPGRADEABLE
 MB>                                             PHOTO-CD UPGRADEABLE
 MB>                                             CD-AUDIO JACK
 MB>                                             BUS DEDICATED
 MB>                                             WIN-NT COMPATIBLE
 MB>          With software and card!! Only 3 months old!!! Must sell 
      The price is kinda steep considering you can buy them new for around     
$195.00 delivered.

 -=Stephen=- 

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5123
  To: STERLING PRICE                           Date: 09/25/93  6:36a
Subj: Review of EE2 (con'c)                   Refer: NONE
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With respect to EE2 and BB R.3, I was mainly talking just about the
interfaces. Checking the table of dups from the GIF name data base, EE2 showed
only 108 dups with BB R.3 which isn't too bad. Remember tho' that re-naming of
what Lee Noga has begun to refer to as "grass roots" GIFs, i.e. the ones that
have been out for a while, while perhaps not rampant, isn't uncommon either.
Therefore, you may well find a somewhat higher number of dups between these
two CDs than 108 if you did a file-by-file, visual comparison (which is damn
near impossible).

Hope this helps. Cheers!

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5124
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 09/25/93  6:41a
Subj: Review of STAREware                     Refer: NONE
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If I understood Lee Noga correctly, you're referring to "So Much Stareware".
She said that STAREware was a recent knockoff of SMS that was being marketed
as "new". You are correct about the "hits" - my data base uncovered about a
98% hit ratio on names, but without considering who's duplicating whom.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5125
  To: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN                        Date: 09/25/93  6:45a
Subj: Review of STAREware                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

OK, tell you what I'll try to do. I can (with some effort) OCR them back into
electronic form. After that, I'll see if the sysop of this BBS (Dan Guillory -
a sterling fellow) will put them in an area where they can be freq-ed by
other sysops. If that's not a viable route at least they'll be available on a
floppy for anyone that wants them that way. I'll keep the echo posted on my
progress - but this will take more than a day or two to pull off. Thanks for
the interest.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5126
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/24/93 12:17p
Subj:  Adult CD ROM's                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> "Ripoffs" in what way ? How can one vary a swimsuit disc--Im cur  
                                                                       
  
Pardon my jumping in, but... 
  
When a CD is advertised as "swimsuit", I know what to expect with 
respect to subject matter - that's not an issue. What *IS* an issue 
(with any CD) are production values: technical quality of the scans; 
photographic quality of the images; front end; full 650 Mb; etc. etc. 
etc. The two s/s CDs I looked at (VERY briefly - can't even recall 
their titles) were jokes in these respects. FLD's past products haven't 
had these kind of problems and I don't expect the future ones will 
either. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5127
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 09/24/93 12:27p
Subj: THANKS                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FG> Only problem is, now my eyes hurt.  Thanks again 
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
 And your monitor screen has "nose prints" on it, right? (:>> 
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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 5128
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/25/93  4:56a
Subj: sony CD drives                          Refer: NONE
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I have 3 brand new Sony CD rom drives for sale. still in shrink wrap.
350ms access 300KB transfer!   exceeds MPC level 2!
internal version (non SCSI) with card.
299.00 includes shipping.  
leftovers from special purchace in case your wondering
don;t have model no. handy, will leave it in next post.

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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 5129
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 09/24/93 11:58a
Subj: cds for sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CDRoms for sale:

 Aminet June 1993                $15.00  Almost 600 megs of Amiga stuff,
                                         Thousands of GNU apps, C code,
                                         sound files, games...
 CICA Windows Aug. 1993          $15.00  640+ Megs of Windows stuff, utils
                                         games, drivers, icons, info, and
                                         tons of other stuff.
 CUG Library                     $25.00  Tons of C code from the C users
                                         Group. Mostly DOS, some UNIX.
 Garbo May 1992                  $15.00  375+ Megs of MSDOS/MAC from the
                                         Garbo Archive at the University
                                         of Vassa, Finland.  Interesting.
 GIFs Galore 1st ed.             $15.00  610+ Megs of .gif files. Animals,
                                         people, fantasy, tv, movies, more.
                                         320x280 to 1024x768
 Giga Games Aug. 1993            $22.00  450+ Megs zipped, 1 GIG unzipped!
                                         Games for MSDOS/Windows. Graphics
                                         Arcade games!  Adventure games!
                                         1000+ D&D files!  Much more.
 Hobbes OS/2  June 1993          $15.00  640+ Megs of OS/2, bunches of
                                         must have utils for OS/2 2.x,tons
                                         of other stuff for 1.x to 2.x.
 Info-Mac                        $27.00  10,000 programs for the MAC,
                                         desktop accessories, games,
                                         graphics, sound, tech stuff.
 La Coleccion Agosto 1993        $22.00  Mas de 6.500 archivos shareware
                                         y de dominio publico clasificados
                                         en 55 secciones con descripciones
                                         en espanol.  Listo para utilizar
                                         en BBS. DOS/Windows/OS/2. 475 Megs.
 Libris Britanica Issue 2        $35.00  650 Megs of Shareware from
                                         England!  This import has tons
                                         of MSDOS stuff you probabley
                                         have not seen... (With 124 pg.
                                         listing of files and descriptions)
 Project Gutenberg  July 1993    $22.00  Tons of classic lit/history from
                                         the Project Gutenburg archive, all
                                         low ASCII text, ISO-9660, readable
                                         on almost anything!
 ShareWare Heaven 1993           $25.00  400+ Megs of MSDOS/Win, good
                                         general CD, samples wide range
                                         of programs/utils, hits the
                                         highlights.
 Simtel MSDOS May 1993           $15.00  630+ Megs MSDOS, over 9000
                                         programs, drivers, tech info,
                                         graphics & sound stuff.
 Source  March 1992              $22.00  600 Megs of C code for just
                                         about every application: from
                                         AI to usenet.
 Soundwave                       $27.00  450 Megs of unique sounds, pro
                                         recordings at 16 bits.  Sounds
                                         as good as audio CDs. 200 Megs
                                         of sound files at 8 bits.    
Postage and Insurance is $5.00 per order, 2nd day priority shipping.
I will ship COD.  Add $5.00 per order for COD charges.

Send checks/money orders to, and/or feel free to contact:

Eric Bravick
USF 3008
4202 E. Fowler Ave.
Tampa, FL. 33620-3008

(813) 985-9619 (Voice)
(813) 985-9723 (BBS)
Netmail 1:377/53.0


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5130
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/24/93 10:46a
Subj: Re: Review of STAREware                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-23-93 06:36> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> Thanks for the additional data, Lee. I *STILL* say you should write
BJ>> (or at least let someone ghost for you) a brief history of adult CDs.
BJ>> I'd surely like to read it.

Would love too, except you now know everything I do :)--You will notice the
trend changes and attitude changes towards the 'Grassroot' disc's--The top 10
players in US distribution, are exhausting their stocks and shying away from
the 'Obscenity' type disc's--Weekend trade shows are starting to ban these
types of disc's also, and international customs now have the awareness to
confiscate this type of media. If and when 'New' XXX enter the market, you can
believe its from the 'Wanna Be's' that live in the old era and have yet to
spend any money with a team of attorneys--To put out a "XXX" disc, a publisher
needs to have a min of $250,000 in a separate legal fund.

Having exposure in this industry, we have traveled around the country to meet
on this topic with those that 'GodFather' the adult video industry. We have
consulted the attorneys that specialize in the representation of the seculiar,
and it was an eye opener--There are a tremendous amount of people serving time
who operated much like we in the 'Grassroot' era--Now, publishers like myself
have to sweat out the statute of limitations, and hope we don't do time for
products we put out prior--With what I know now, our "XXX" days are over and we
have started a new company with a whole different attitude as well as product
line--We have chosen to work with Hollywood agents and deal in name brand
collections--beginning after the release of Busty Babes II and Texas Glamour--
(all licensed collections)

a) American Dream Girls, LA Raiderettes, Venus Models, Chippendales etc.

These are all collections that we have on a handshake, and are now at contract
signing for. Most any female collection found on calender, we will do a ROM
with--

This may please some, and disapoint others, but sometimes you have to set your
horizons a little higher :) We plan to be around a LOOOooong time.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: GREG NEATE                             Number: 5131
  To: ???????                                  Date: 09/24/93  9:39p
Subj: Re: Canadian sales                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to Boris Osadciw, Bill Alexander said:
->BO> You'll be even more please when you see our BRAND NEW CATALOG ! To put
->BO> it
->BO> lightly....it's AWSOME and so are the savings and FREE BEES !!

->BO> Watch your mail box soon....if you don't get yours soon, drop us a note
->BO> and YELL for a copy or you'll miss out on a lot of specials.


->Boris,

->Please send me a catalog!

->Address is:

->Bill Alexander
->509 Pine Ridge Ln.
->Aubrey, TX 76227


->Thanks.

->Bill

-> * Q-Blue v0.7 [NR] *

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Send me one too whoever you are:
Greg Neate
3116 Davis Ave SW
Roanoke VA 24015
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From: GREG NEATE                             Number: 5132
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/24/93  9:41p
Subj: Cd Rom Catalogs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anybody who is CD rom vendor please send a catalog to:
Greg Neate
3116 Davis Ave. SW
Roanoke, VA. 24015
Thanks.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 5133
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/24/93 10:27p
Subj: Netware PD/Shareware CD-ROM             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the sixth edition of
its Netware CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The October 1993 CD-ROM has
974 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 125,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5134
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/25/93 10:16a
Subj: BUSTY BABES #1 FOR SALE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Bob!

 PR> MS>> |   BUSTY BABES vol 1 release 1 FOR SALE!   |

 PR>> I have BB#1 also was wondering if you know any one that would be
 PR>> interresred it will take trade's, thank's

Are you interrested inthis CD have it and ready to trade or sell
512-939-9822

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5135
  To: BILL JONES                               Date: 09/25/93 10:19a
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Bill!

23 Sep 93, Bill Jones writes to Pat Rickerson:

 BJ>  Pat,
 BJ>  The money order arrived today, I dropped the CD's off at the UPS package
 BJ>  pickup point this evening, they will go out sometime tomorrow and will
 BJ>  be coming UPS two day air so you should have them no later than Tuesday
 BJ>  since there is a weekend coming up and UPS doesn't work on  weekends, at
 BJ>  least not in this area.

Thanks will let you know when I get them!
Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5136
  To: JEFF WOERTZ                              Date: 09/25/93 10:44a
Subj: CD player                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Jeff!

Sent money a little while ago, did you get it yet? please reply so I know
whats going on, thanks.
512-939-9822

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5137
  To: CARL SLAWINSKI                           Date: 09/25/93 10:42a
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Carl!

Did you get the money yet, have not gotten a reply yet, let me know, thanks.
512-939-9822

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5138
  To: WENDELL KENNEY                           Date: 09/25/93 10:44a
Subj: Simms                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Wendell!

I don't remember if I told you but I sent the money off for the simms, tolk me
a day as missplaced your address. You should be getting it soon, thanks.
512-939-9822
Pat

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From: JOHN ENGLAND                           Number: 5139
  To: BILL MILLER                              Date: 09/24/93  8:19a
Subj: Mitsumi 300ms                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi, Bill.  Sorry, but the CD-ROM drive is sold. I will, however, let you know
if the sale falls through. Thanks, anyway, though. Jeff

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From: JOHN ROMERO                            Number: 5140
  To: ROBERT NEE                               Date: 09/25/93  3:35a
Subj: Cd-Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Robert,
       I am interested in the CD-ROM and extras. Consider it sold if
it's still available.  Let me know and I will mail you the money.

                                  Thanks.
                                         John Romero

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From: JOHN ROMERO                            Number: 5141
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 09/25/93  3:40a
Subj: What happen to my order?                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would just like to know why my order is taking so long?  I sent the
money to you THREE WEEKS ago and I haven't heard from you since.  I
would like a reply to let me know what the Heck is going on.  I don't
think you want to be known for having slow or bad service.
Thank you!

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From: CHARLIE HEISS                          Number: 5142
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/24/93  7:00a
Subj: Review of Raincoat CDs                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 09-22-93 Bob Jackson wrote to Gary Gilmore... 
 
  
 BJ> You raise a valid point. Perhaps my reviews of adult CDs annoy more 
 BJ> people on  
 BJ> this echo than those that find them useful/interesting. In  
 BJ> the past I've relied on the moderator to tell me if/when  
 BJ> he thinks I'm doing something wrong, should stop, or  
 BJ> whatever. I don't really know what else to do. Comments,  
 BJ> Tim? 
      Just wanted to let you know that I find your reviews useful/ 
      interesting.  The reviews are one of the primary reasons 
      that I read this echo!  I too would like to see reviews of 
      shareware and other types of disks; but keep up what you 
      are doing with the adult disks too! 
      Regards, 
      Charlie 
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5143
  To: RANDY RAE                                Date: 09/25/93 12:35a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Is there any cd-rom disk drive that can hold more then 1 cd

Yes, the Pioneer's can and they come in two models, the DMR600 and
the DMR604X.

We've just received a price decrease on them this AM and have posted
the info.

If you need further assistance, please feel free to call us at
216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to assist you.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5144
  To: RON THOMPSON                             Date: 09/25/93 12:35a
Subj: Re: SPECIAL                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>       Are any of these disks usable on a MAcintosh Centris 610
>>       with an Apple Cd300? It says it 'reads' other formats....?
>>       The San Diego Zoo one sounds interesting

If your system is capable of run PC format CD's, then I'd say your OK
as these are the standard PC format disks.

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5145
  To: CHRIS WISE                               Date: 09/25/93 12:35a
Subj: Re: business phone book wante           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Looking for a business phone book, would like to have the
>>    newest one, but 1992 will be accepted.  Let me know prices and
>>    avail.

We have it Lee and it's priced at $25. !  Interested, give us call at
216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be glad to help.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5146
  To: RAY CRITTENDEN                           Date: 09/25/93 12:35a
Subj: Re: Cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>                   **********     WANTED     **********

>>                    Need CD Rom drives for BBS System.

>>      I'm looking for some cheap cd rom drives for a BBS system.
>>      Already have six on line but want to put 4 to 6 more on
>>     line.  Obviously need to be SCSI or other daisy-chainable
>>     drives. I saw someone advertise a 4 unit system a few months
>>     back for about $600. Would like to get in touch with you if
>>     you read this.  Will consider any reasonably priced
>>     comparable unit. Please leave message in this conference or
>>     send netmail to origin below.

>>    P.S. If you don't give a price, don't bother answering.

Ray, how about a 6 disk changer for $739. or we have a number of unit's
that are priced in the low $200. range as well. If your interested, give us
a call at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be glad to help
you out.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5147
  To: NINO FAGAN                               Date: 09/25/93 12:35a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>       Boris Osadciw wrote
>>**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S *************
>>Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $439.00

>>    Boris,
>>
>>     I got this unit with the computer I bought.  Trying to get a
>>    technical manual for it.  Received NO paper work at all on the
>>    unit, nor does the computer company provide any.
>>
>>     Can you get a technical manual for the 3401B?  If so will be
>>    more than happy to pay the cost + commission (reasonable). :)

Nino, we maybe able to help....drop us a netmail message to the address
below to remind us.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5148
  To: MICHAEL GRAHAM                           Date: 09/25/93 12:35a
Subj: Re: Encyclopedia                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG>>Does anyone sale an ENCYCLOPEDIA on CD for BBS's to work in a DOOR.
MG>>(DOOR.SYS)

PN>>The CD ROM disks that you are planning to put online are Commercial and
  >>only licensed to the single indvidual who registered the software. They
  >>can not be place online legally unless you have a written agreement or
  >>site license from the Author or Software Manufacturer.

>>    Who said anything about a Commercial Version???  I said FOR a
>>    BBS! I have 2 commercial versions. I want one for my BBS with
>>    just TEXT! It would be a HOT sale for any one to write a
>>    version for either small net or BBS with out all the bells and
>>    whistles. It would also give BBS's a chance to be something
>>    more then just messages, files and games.

We have an encyclopedia called "Hendrick Encyclopedia". It's all text
and was created for the blind, although anyone can read it.

This may work, but you'll also have to review the copyright laws on it
as well before you post it.

If you need further assistance, please feel free to call us at
216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be glad to help you
further.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5149
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 09/25/93 12:35a
Subj: Re: Virtual Valerie                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I have heard of an interactive Adult CD called Virtual
>>    Valerie, I guess it was profiled in Playboy or Penthouse, but
>>    this is just what a friend of mine says.  Anyone with any
>>    information on this CD, please drop a note here, thanks...Frank

Yep, it's truely an adult cd but only available in MAC format at the
moment. From what I've been told, it's in the works for a PC version,
but as to it's release have no idea.

Hope this helps...

Boris Osadciw

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From: BRIAN BOURNE                           Number: 5150
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 09/23/93  9:35a
Subj: CD-ROM for Sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry its already been sold.

Brian


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From: DONNIE RAYNOR                          Number: 5151
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/24/93  7:49a
Subj: Re: Sb-pro compatibility                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BO> The SB-PRO is a propietary unit ( some what ) not a scsi. The best
 BO> and easiest unit to install with the SB-PRO is the Panasonic
 BO> 562b, which will hookup directly and you can dasiy chain up to 4
 BO> units.

 BO> The price on these unit's are $249.00 complete and we do have them
 BO> in stock as well as a number of other cd-rom systems as well.

 Boris could you give me the specs. on that drive? Access time, transfer 
 rate, max. disk read size, etc.
                                               Thanks,
                                               Donnie Raynor
  

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From: CHET HART                              Number: 5152
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/24/93 11:09a
Subj: Reader Needed                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello everyone,
     I am looking for a new, cheap, external CD-ROM drive.
This drive must fit the following specs...

   * Multi-session photo CD capable
   * Multi-media version 1 capable
   * Plays audio CDs
   * Requires no caddy
   * Must access all data on a stuffed disk
   * 30 days money back if unsatisfied

     I am not in need of a sound board at this time, but
that will be the next purchase. Please contact me via this
echo or send your prices, descriptions and\or catalogs to...

   Chester W. Hart
   O'Hearte Desktop Services
   622 Meadowvale Drive
   Orlando, Florida  32825-6670

Thanks all for your help,
Chet


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From: CHET HART                              Number: 5153
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/24/93  4:50p
Subj: Used reader wanted                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello everyone,
     I am looking for a used, cheap, external CD-ROM
drive. This drive must fit the following specs...

   * Multi-session photo CD capable
   * Multi-media version 1 capable
   * Plays audio CDs
   * Requires no caddy
   * Must access all data on a stuffed disk

Please contact me via this echo or send your prices,
and descriptions to...

   Chester W. Hart
   622 Meadowvale Drive
   Orlando, Florida  32825-6670

Thanks all for your help,
Chet


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From: ROBERT KUMMER                          Number: 5154
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/23/93  1:48p
Subj: Cd'S To Trade Or Sell                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RK:>   Night Owl's Daytime Express
RK:>   Night Owl's Business CD
RK:>   Shareware Explosion II
RK:>   Wiz-Pak 6-Pak CD
RK:>   Black Box 4
RK:>   Pheonix 3

RK:>   After Dark
RK:>   XXX Extreme

     Hi Pat,

 Sorry it took so long to get back to you. Check my post to all, I've
 listed a short discription and prices on the CD's I have. Thanks.

 Robert.

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From: ROBERT KUMMER                          Number: 5155
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 09/23/93  1:48p
Subj: Cd'S To Trade Or Sell                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RK:>   After Dark
RK:>   XXX Extreme

    Hi Kevin,

 Thank you for your offer, but I'm going to have to pass, I've already
 had VGA Spectrum. Have any others you would like to trade ? Thanks.

 Robert.

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From: ROBERT KUMMER                          Number: 5156
  To: MIKE ASTIN                               Date: 09/23/93  1:48p
Subj: Cd'S To Trade Or Sell                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    Hi Mike,

 Check my post to all, I've listed a short discription and prices on
 the CD's I have. Thanks.

 Robert.

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From: ROBERT KUMMER                          Number: 5157
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/23/93  1:48p
Subj: CD's For Sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following CD's for sale (trades possible)

   Night Owl's Daytime Express- general shareware, good assortment  $15
   Night Owl's Business CD -   aprox 110meg all business programs   $15
   Shareware Explosion II -   nothing older than 11-91              $15
   Wiz-Pak 6-Pak CD -        170 programs ready to run              $10
   Black Box 4 -            mostly 91&92 files. nice CD             $15
   MegaDemo1 -             has CD drive benchmark utils             $10
   Pheonix 3 -            general shareware, good assortment        $15

 Prices do not include shipping. Buy 3 or more and I'll pay shipping.
 Please reply here. Thanks.

 Robert.

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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 5158
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/21/93  4:53p
Subj: Custom CDROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       D i g i t a l   E n t e r p r i s e s   c u s t o m
                    C D R O M   s e r v i c e

We can transfer your programs and data from Tape, Floppy or Hard Disk
to Industry Standard CDROM, which is accessible by any ISO9660 compliant
CDROM reader.


Price schedule:
---------------

  Quantity      Price each
  --------      ----------
    1            $144.00, and $55 per each additional.
  *5-9            $65.00
  *10+            $50.00

* - Quantity 5 and over flat-rate pricing applies to multiple copies
    of the SAME disk.


Shipping:
---------
All orders are sent via UPS ground unless customer specifies a different
method.  Add $5 for UPS Blue label service, and $15 for UPS red label
service.

Getting your data to us:
------------------------
We currently support QIC-40 and QIC-80 tapes through the use of a
Colorado DJ-20 tape drive.  We also support streaming tape drives
that use DC600/6XXXX tape.  Floppy disks are accepted, but at a premium
of $8/hr of restore time.  We Also have in the past, accepted a hard
disk as the method of transferral.


Naming conventions:
-------------------
One limiting factor of CDROM is the limit that the ISO 9660 standard
places on filenames.  Filenames MUST NOT contain characters other than
A-Z, 0-9 or the "_" underscore character.

We will at your request rename non-compliant files, and files.bbs listings
at no additional cost.

Terms:
------
Prepay for service via certified funds.  Personal checks must clear our
bank before production begins.   Please make your check or money order
payable to "Digital Enterprises".   The following signed statement must
accompany all orders:

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I certify that the material I am presenting to Digital Enterprises
for transferral to CDROM violates no copyright laws.   The service
that Digital Enterprises provides is a bulk copying operation, and as
such they have no knowledge of the contents thereof.  I assume
sole responsibility for the contents of said CDROM(S).


                                  Signed:___________________________

                                    Date:______________
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For more information:
---------------------
Contact us by voice, or log onto our BBS, and download the file CDINFO.ZIP.
For those with access to a Fidonet compatible mailer, file request the
magic filename "CDINFO".


Digital Enterprises
125 S. Saginaw
St. Charles, MI 48655
Voice: 517-865-6800  -  BBS: 517-865-6066  -  Fidonet: 1:239/900.0

(C) Copyright 1993, Digital Enterprises

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From: ALAN ELY                               Number: 5159
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/21/93 10:56p
Subj: Wanted: mpc encyclopedia                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a just what you are looking for the new one for 93. If you want it call
my bbe at (210)464 8792 1200-9600--- Does not work at speeds higher than 9600..


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5160
  To: BERNARD TIBBETTS                         Date: 09/24/93  1:06p
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->> **************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
->> Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00  Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
->> Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $249.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
->> Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $739.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1169.  -SCSI
->> Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00  Texel Ext 265ms Bare  - $469.00 -SCSI
->> Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00  Texel Ext Complete    - $569.00 -SCSI
->> Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $439.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $569.00 -SCSI
->> Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00  Mitsumi w/Sound Card  - $325.00 -PRPR
->>  Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50.  ALL ChestNuts CD's $10.00ec
->> ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759

>>    Just got the cd's. They are great! How much longer do you
>>    think you can keep the Pioneer 600A at this price? Is it true
>>    that Pioneer is planning on discontinueing it? I want a second
>>    one if you get the price down a bit (or give a choice of a
>>    couple of cd's). I need to see if I can find the money.
>>    Hopefully by xmax.

Glad to hear your enjoying your cd's !!

As for the Pioneer prices, you'll be glad to see they have some down
somewhat as of today. Look at the above message or for our NEW post
and enjoy !!

Looking to hear from you soon....

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5161
  To: DAVE RYDER                               Date: 09/24/93  1:06p
Subj: Re: SPECIAL                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    RE: Message entered on Sep 18,93 by BORIS OSADCIW to ALL
>>    ***************************************************************
>>    ******** BO>                  C D R O M  B L O W  O U T  S P E
>>    C I A L S

BO>> Mayo Clinic - $20.   San Diego Zoo The Animals! - $20.

BO>> ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517

>>        Boris, is this number available from Canada?  From (416) I
>>     receeived a message indicating that it was not available from
>>     this calling area.

This has been fixed as of today, so you and everyone else in CANADA can
NOW ORDER DIRECT using the our TOLL FREE number. This is of cource an
ORDER LINE ONLY, so you'll need to know what you want when you place your
order. We will not be taking catalog request nor will we provide product
pricing information. If you wish to the the later, we suggest you call us
at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist that way.

>>        At any rate, I was interested inthe above 2 cds.  Do you
>>        have a BBS number to place an order or download a catalog?

Both in stock and our product list will be available the middle of next
week. Our current customer's will recieve thier copies first, so if there's
a delay, you'll know why.

>>        I had sent netmail earlier and received no response, but
>>        that may have been a problem on this end.

Our fault here, we haven't  updated the the nodelist in a few weeks, but
that's fixed now.

Hope to hear from you soon....

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5162
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/24/93  1:06p
Subj: HOT NEW PRICES                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H O T   N E W  P R I C E 'S <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
                    From Consumer's Club International
On this date 09-24-1993, Pioneer Electronics has just lowered their
price's to us on the following Six Disk Changers. Here is your
opportunity to purchase one of the finest cdrom changers on the market.

Pioneer DMR 600 - 600ms / 150kps - bare drive  - PRICE $ 739.00
Pioneer DMR 604X -350ms / 600kps - bare drive  - PRICE $1169.00
                Visa - MasterCard Accepted - No Surcharge
ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: JERE WESSELL                           Number: 5163
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/24/93  1:26a
Subj: XXX POLICY CHANGE                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> We are no longer a "XXX" publishing house by choice, not because we
 LN> can't get
 LN> the materials--We are specializing in name brand collections beginning
 LN> after
 LN> BB II hits the market--(i.e-Venus, Hawaaian Tropic Girls, American
 LN> Dream
 LN> Girls, Platinum, LA Raiderettes).
 LN> This may upset some folks and please others--"XXX" discs are too risky

 Doesn't upset me one bit.  How about me buying you a drink at Comdex in vegas
 Your bud in Las Vegas,
 Jere

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From: JERE WESSELL                           Number: 5164
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/24/93  1:29a
Subj: Reviews                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BJ> You raise a valid point. Perhaps my reviews of adult CDs annoy more
 BJ> people on
 BJ> this echo than those that find them useful/interesting. In the past
 BJ> I've
 BJ> relied on the moderator to tell me if/when he thinks I'm doing
 BJ> something
 BJ> wrong, should stop, or whatever. I don't really know what else to do.

 Keep the reviews coming.  I enjoy the reading and you are doing the rest
 of us a service.

 Jere, Sysop Nighthawk BBS, Las Vegas
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From: JERE WESSELL                           Number: 5165
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/24/93  1:46a
Subj: Review of PGG1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BJ>   Bottom line: If you're looking for a hodge-podge collection of GIFs
 BJ>   ranging from terrible through so-so and on up to terrific, across a
 BJ>   wide variety of subject matter, and you want to view these images
 BJ>   via Windows ('tho the use of an alternate viewer isn't precluded),
 BJ>   then this CD could fill your needs. Otherwise, pick something else.

 Thanks for another good review.
 Jere

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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 5166
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 09/23/93  3:10p
Subj: Damar Enterprises                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
JL>DP>CD OS/2Box (version 1.00) - DEALERS ONLY!  We are now accepting
pre-orders 
JL>f 
JL> >the OS/2Box.  This disk is chock full of HUNDREDS of megs worth of 
JL> >OS/2 apps, games, utils, drivers, and MORE!  Featuring a Graphical 
JL> >User Interface for the OS/2 environment, this is THE disk for you 
JL> >OS/2 folks. 
 
JL>Hi Dave.  Would you mind defining "HUNDREDS" for me please?  Is it 
JL>anywhere close to 6 hundred?  I have a lot of customers who are not 
JL>looking to buy a disc with much less than 600 megs.  Thanks. 
 
JL>                                                       Jim... 
JL>Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! 
JL>(205) 793-4481 Voice 
JL>(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
Last count was over 300 megs of 2.x related software.  We could fill the sucker

with lots of 1.x stuff - which would satisfy those users looking for a disk
with 
not much less than 600 megs.  Interesting trade off eh?  <G>  Bottom line is we

decided from a marketing standpoint, to only go after the latest 2.x-supported 
software, being better than trying to pull a fast one on the user and claim the

disk had over 600 megs (with almost half being useless drivers, patches, etc.) 
 
Lots of the software on the disk will run under 1.x - such as games, utils,
etc. 
- but we held off on stuff SPECIFICALLY written for the 1.x release level. 
 
Hope this helps - perhaps your users will agree between 300-400 megs of useable

software is better than a disk full of "junk."  In the next few days I'll be 
releasing a directory structure here in the echo for everyone to see what 
categories the disk is broken into... 
 
Later, 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
The CD PowerBox Guys! 
 
 
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 5167
  To: MIKE BRAUN                               Date: 09/23/93  3:14p
Subj: CDROM FOR-SALE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>to all!! 
 
MB>       MITSUMI high speed internal cd-rom drive for sale or trade for a 
MB>       lower grade rom like NEC rom player!! Mitsumi does not support 
MB>       os/2 so i am selling or tradding this one for another rom drive! 
MB>       This one works great in dos but not at all in os/2!! If you have 
MB>       no trade i'm looking to get $225!! 
 
MB>                                           MITSUMI DRIVE 
MB>                                           SPEED 350MSEC 
MB>                                           TRANSFER RATE 150KB/SEC 
MB>                                           XA UPGRADEABLE 
MB>                                           PHOTO-CD UPGRADEABLE 
MB>                                           CD-AUDIO JACK 
MB>                                           BUS DEDICATED 
MB>                                           WIN-NT COMPATIBLE 
MB>        With software and card!! Only 3 months old!!! Must sell or 
MB>        trade!! please contact me at (203)347-3842 or send fido to 
MB>        MUSTANGMIKES BBS 1:320/3842 THANKYOU SYSOP MIKE BRAUN!! 
 
Have you tried the Mitusmi drivers for OS/2?  I have them if you'd like - also,

they will be appearing on the "OS/2Box" - Damar Enterprises' OS/2 shareware 
CD-ROM. 
 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
The CD PowerBox Guys! 
 
 
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5168
  To: STEVE GERWECK                            Date: 09/22/93 12:53p
Subj: BUSTY BABES II PREORD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> LN> HUgs,

>I hope you're female! :)

Lee is in fact female....

 8-)


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5169
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/22/93 12:58p
Subj: CD-ROM PREORDERS                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

> PC-SIG 13 * Newest CD from the oldest shareware distributor............$33

PC-SIG may be the oldest PC-based Shareware distributor, but there WERE folks
distributing shareware before the PC existed (and DECUS at least predates the
existance of INTEL, much less CP/M or the IBM PC)....


 * SLMR 2.1a * These dreams keep me going these days.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5170
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/22/93  3:51p
Subj: BBSCON                                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

>LN>BF>>  Also, Lee likely has forgotten more about the case by now than you
>LN>BF>> currently know

>LN>Whatcha' mean I have forgotten ? I have not forgotten anything, and I am
>LN>well versed on the subject

>Probably used as in "I've FORGOTTEN more about how to drive a car than you'll
>ever know, Sonny!!"

Exactly!


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5171
  To: DAVID ROBERTS                            Date: 09/22/93  3:52p
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Can you explain why the BB #1 (first edition) disk is selling for $250?

Why do collector types run the price of ANYTHING way up?

 Same answer....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5172
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/23/93 11:30a
Subj: BBSCON                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>BF>Lee likely has forgotten more about the case by now than you currently
>BF>> know

>Whatcha' mean I have forgotten ?

Please read the WHOLE thing - or are you unfamilier with the "I've forgotten
more than you'll ever KNOW about such and such" figure of speach?


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5173
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 09/23/93  4:03p
Subj: MONSTER CD-ROM LIST 1                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I am interested in a
>games-only cd disc that has alot of 1993 files, and is bbs ready (EZROM Door)
>with files.bbs with name, date, size, desc of the files.  Thanks

The Gameware Collection should interest you - 6500+ Games, file descriptions
for at least 10 different BBS types, and only $19 (shipping included IF
prepaid).

 I deal directly with the manufacturer on this one, so I can match ANY price to
an end user.

 Brice's Library
 5420 N. College Ave.
 Indianapolis, IN 46220

 (317) 726-1980 (Tu Th 11AM - 8PM We Fr 11AM - 6PM)


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5174
  To: JOHN ENGLAND                             Date: 09/23/93  4:06p
Subj: SB PRO-COMPATIBLE CD-ROM                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Is it at all possible to NOT use the Mitsumi drive's 16-bit
>card and just use the SB-PRO's CD-ROM adapter

NO.

>If this is NOT possible,
>which drive CAN it be done with and what are the specs/prices

Certain specific Panasonic models, including the 562 that Boris and CD-ROM
source sell at $249.


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5175
  To: ALAN H. ORNDORFF JR.                     Date: 09/23/93  6:24p
Subj: OS/2 CD WANTED                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Does anyone know of a CD made up especially with OS/2 programs.

Hobbes OS/2 Archives, put out by Walnut Creek - a compilation of the Internet
"hobbes" archive of OS/2 software.

 $16, shipping included IF prepaid.

 Brice's Library
 5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
 Indianapolis IN 46220

 (317) 726-1980 voice (11AM - 8PM Tu Th  11AM - 6PM We Fr)


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From: CHRIS BAKER                            Number: 5176
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/24/93 11:41a
Subj: Monster Media `93 - No.2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                             
                          Monster Media `93 - No.2
                              is NOW shipping!

    This is the SECOND disc for 1993 containing over 650 megabytes of new
  shareware dated May 1, 1993 thru August 31, 1993. Over 5,000 files, a 128
 page wire-bound book listing all files w/multi-line descriptions, BBS ready  
                    and an enhanced CD-ROM file viewer.



    NO other disc packs this kind of value with the MOST-UP-TO-DATE files!


                 NO Duplicates - Only the LATEST versions


             Call your local dealer for ordering information


          For more information or dealer quantities call/write:
                 
                          Monster Media, Inc.
                          P.O. Box 367
                          Troy, MI  48099-0367
                          Voice/FAX  (313)547-8160

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 5177
  To: CHRIS WISE                               Date: 09/24/93  9:53p
Subj: Re: business phone book wante           Refer: NONE
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On 22 Sep 93  10:10:11, I heard Chris Wise shout to All:

CW> Looking for a business phone book, would like to have the newest one,
CW> but 1992 will be accepted.  Let me know prices and avail.
CW> 
CW> Lee Christopher Wise

Free Spirit Software has two for sale they area:

American Business Phone Book......$ 15.00

American Business Phone Book 93-94...$29.00


         1-800-638-5757

             

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From: GREG NEATE                             Number: 5178
  To: THE SISTER                               Date: 09/23/93  8:30p
Subj: Adult Rom's For Sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->tax & Shipping or handling. I will pay shipping for you. I
->also Have T & A 2
->the Maxx. I will sell this one for $15.00. It is brand New
->from Profit Press,
->the makers of FAO. It has Famous nudes and text files. I also
I'll buy that 15 dollar one. Contact me here at ShadowKeep. Heck I'll pay 25
for it if you contact me here.
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From: LEE SIMANOFF                           Number: 5179
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/23/93  5:48p
Subj: Centris For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Any out there want to buy a Centris 610 in mint condition.

The New 040 Chip
8 Megabytes of RAM
230 Megabyte Hard Drive
Internal Apple 300 CD
Lots of Software
In Mint Condition

Only $2000

Write Back
Lee Simanoff

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 5180
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/21/93  7:37a
Subj: Re: MONSTER CD-ROM LIST 1               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Randy Neuner <=-

 RN>Dr Games! (NEW)...$20.00,  I am interested in a games-only cd disc that
 RN>has alot of 1993 files, and is bbs ready (EZROM Door) with files.bbs with
 RN>name, date, size, desc of the files.  Thanks

 MS> This disc would fit your needs.  Gameware Collection would also be an
 MS> excellent bet at $24.  Both have very recent files, with BBS file
 MS> listings.

 Mike, thanks for the info on Dr Games.  I may order it but am a little
 unsure about the 1993 games being on the disc.  I ordered the Gameware
 Collection from your company.  I asked if it had alot of 93' games on
 it.  I was told it did so I ordered it and the Phoenix 3 too.

 Well to my suprise, there is NOT ONE game with a file date of 1993
 on the entire disc.  I decided not to call your company and make it an
 issue.  The disc does have alot of games on it, but no 1993 files as I
 was told then and now here in this echo.  Don't get me wrong, your
 sales person was very pleasant to talk to and your service also has
 been good, just I still do not have the newer 1993 games to put on
 my BBS.  Thanks for your time.


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 5181
  To: DAN GUILLORY                             Date: 09/21/93  8:27a
Subj: Re: Night Owl V10                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dan, please put me on your mailing list too.

Randy Neuner
196 Hughes St
Ft Huachuca, AZ 85613

c/o High Noon BBS


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From: MIKE BOLDEN                            Number: 5182
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/22/93 11:05p
Subj: CDROM DISCS 2 OF 2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Street Atlas USA (Windows)....85.95³
ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ;

Doug,

How do we buy this stuff???

Mike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5183
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/24/93 12:53a
Subj: BIG CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 Adventures of Willy Beamish...25.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Monarch Notes.................57.00
 American Business Phonebk 91..17.00    Money, Money, Money!..........28.00
 American Business Phonebk 92..19.00    Monster Media 93..............33.00
 American Business Phonebk 93..39.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Aminet Amiga (New!)...........15.00    Mother of All Clipart.........23.50
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......23.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....24.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....25.50    National Geographic Mammals...25.00
 Arizona Images (New!).........25.00    National Parks................24.50
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Night Owl 4.1.................20.00
 Audubon's Birds...............23.00    Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Battle Chess..................25.00    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 8.0.................24.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 9.0.................25.00
 Beyond the Wall of Stars......24.50    Night Owl 10.0 (Pre-orders)...35.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl 9/10 2-Pak..........55.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl Graphics (New!).....29.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    North American Fax Book.......36.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....13.00    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Business Master...............20.00    Original Shareware............10.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    OS/2Box (Pre-orders)..........29.00
 California Collection.........17.00    Our Solar System..............13.00
 Canadian Shareware (New!).....22.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....27.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    PC-SIG 12.....................24.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-SIG 13 (Pre-orders)........33.00
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 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Pentomino.....................32.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phoenix 3.0 ($6 w/ any order).10.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phoenix 4.0 (New!)............19.00
 Clipart Galore................28.00    Phonedisc USA (New!)..........69.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 2........................29.00
 Clipart Heaven................25.00    Pier 3 (Pre-orders)...........39.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00    Pinacotheca Multimedia........24.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    Pixel Garden..................34.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Composer Quest................34.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency....95.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....15.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....66.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......77.00
 Conan the Cimmerian...........29.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak.......... 99.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50    ProPhone 1993 Business........29.00
 Cookbook Heaven...............23.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Cybergenic Ranger (New!)......27.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........29.00
 Dagger of Amon Ra.............36.00    Project Gutenberg (New!)......22.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Desktop Bookshop..............27.50    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Reader's Library..............28.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Reel Clips (New!).............35.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............33.00    Reference Library.............27.50
 Dinosaurs!....................34.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...39.00
 Dr. Games (New!)..............20.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
 Dr. Music (New!)..............20.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
 Dr. Shareware (New!)..........20.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
 Dr. Windows (New!)............20.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 DTPro.........................28.50    Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......54.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Electronic Cookbook (New!)....33.00    Shareware Online 1............25.00
 Electronic Home Library.......29.00    Shareware Online 2 (New!).....35.00
 Empire Clipart................19.50    Shareware Overload............13.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Shareware Studio 1............19.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.00    Shareware Studio 2............23.00
 European Monarchs.............35.00    Shareware Studio 3 (New!).....25.00
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5184
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/24/93 12:53a
Subj: BIG CD-ROM PRICE LIST 2/2               Refer: NONE
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 Firearms Reference (New!).....30.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...55.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...55.00
 Font Master 2.................28.00    Sights & Sounds...............25.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Game Arena (New!).............13.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Game Master...................20.00    So Much Shareware 2...........25.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....28.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Software Vault 1..............22.00
 Gameware Collection (New!)....24.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....24.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Software Vault Gold (New!)....25.00
 Gardening (New!)..............13.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..19.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Giga Games (New!).............25.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Soundware Collection (New!)...27.00
 Global Explorer...............93.00    SoundWAV......................25.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Grammy Awards.................36.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Space Quest IV................24.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........29.50
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...23.00    Sports Best on CD.............25.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    Stellar 7.....................19.50
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Straight from Heaven (New!)...25.50
 Hamware 1993 (New!)...........24.00    Street Atlas USA v1...........86.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Street Atlas USA v2 (New!)....95.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    STW Multimedia Encyclopedia...45.00
 House of Games................21.00    STW MPC Encyclopedia..........47.50
 Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00    Super CD 1....................19.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....10.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Super Games For Windows.......10.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Talking Jungle Safari.........35.50
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Talking Schoolhouse...........35.50
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....39.00    Technotools...................13.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........45.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..24.00
 Jets & Props..................28.50    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    Timetable of Business/Politic.26.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 King's Quest V................24.00    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 King's Quest VI (New!)........47.00    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    Total Baseball................27.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........22.00    Trump Castle..................28.00
 Lan Master (New!).............27.00    U.S./World Atlas 3.0..........23.00
 Languages of the World........45.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Learning Heaven (New!)........25.50    U.S. History..................29.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Libris Britannia..............42.00    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 Lion's Share..................22.00    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 Loom..........................19.00    VGA Spectrum 1................14.00
 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...39.00    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 Mac Shareware (New!)..........24.00    Visions of Saturn.............23.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........35.00    Vital Signs...................45.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Window Master.................20.00
 Majestic Places...............38.50    Windoware.....................13.00
 Manhole.......................35.50    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Mantis........................24.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World Atlas MPC...............26.50
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............28.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mega Clipart (New!)...........27.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf 1992 MPC..47.00    World Traveler................13.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..58.00    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    World Vision 3-Pak............45.00
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5185
  To: KEITH LOONEY                             Date: 09/24/93 12:53a
Subj: BUSTY BABES 1 FOR SALE!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KL>2 questions. I've been reading this auction on busty babe release 1 and
first
KL>the highest bid was $150 than later the highest bid was only $125. Are you
KL>sure you aren't making this up? Also, whats on the original version that
isn'

No, I'm not making it up Keith.  The person who quoted $150 later called
back and cancelled, taking the high bid back to $125.  Recently though,
another person DID bid $150, which makes that the high mark to date.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 5186
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/23/93 11:42p
Subj: SHAREWARE STUDIO III                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

****    Shareware Studio III in stock!   Just $39 Canadian!    ****

CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA is proud to be a part of bringing you
this excellent collection of 5100+ files (630+ Meg)... Many of the
files are from the exclusive premium Superboard collection (no other
disc has 'em!), and this disc uses the best, most-versatile, and
easy-to-use interface on any CD-ROM to date, based on the industry
standard CD-ROM PRO. No archive errors, BBS ads, known viruses, or AV
codes... no duplicates with Volume I or II, or internally! ZIP archive
dates match the latest date within the archive.

                             Call 306-789-4654
                            or fax 306-789-8690
                            for your copy today!

** BONUS ** For just $69 Canadian, receive the full set of Vol 1, 2 & 3!
No duplication, and all discs have been made with the same high level of
care and attention!

(Standard Shipping & Handling $2/disc -  2 days within Canada, varies
for international destinations).
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From: PAUL NALEY                             Number: 5187
  To: MICHAEL GRAHAM                           Date: 09/24/93 11:12a
Subj: Encyclopedia                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> MG>Does anyone sale an ENCYCLOPEDIA on CD for BBS's to work in a DOOR
-> MG>(DOOR.SYS)
->
-> PN>The CD ROM disks that you are planning to put online are Commercia
->   >only licensed to the single indvidual who registered the software.
->   >can not be place online legally unless you have a written agreemen
->   >site license from the Author or Software Manufacturer.
->
-> Who said anything about a Commercial Version???  I said FOR a BBS!
-> I have 2 commercial versions. I want one for my BBS with just TEXT!
-> It would be a HOT sale for any one to write a version for either smal
-> net or BBS with out all the bells and whistles. It would also give
-> BBS's a chance to be something more then just messages, files and gam
->
->
The CD ROM Disk/Program itself is Commercial and can not be used by
anyone other than the original person that it is licensed to. If someone
does eventually produce a shareware encyclopedia then that CD ROM
Disk/Program may be put online, but this is not possible for a
Commercial Software product unless your license is for such a
distribution. The major Commercial BBS Systems such as GENIE and
CompuServe pay big $$ for the license to place a program such as an
Encyclopedia online.


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 5188
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/27/93  6:53a
Subj: Re: Review of STAREware                 Refer: 8588
Read: 01/03/94  3:41p                       Private: No 

-> a) American Dream Girls, LA Raiderettes, Venus Models, Chippendales e
                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hey Lee,

I thought Barry Z. at Wizard Computer Graphics had the rights to the
Women of Venus models.... Is your agreement an exclusive one?

tim
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From: MARK GLENN                             Number: 5189
  To: KEVIN KING                               Date: 09/24/93  3:52p
Subj: CDROMS FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Kevin!

KK> We are editors for the "Reseller's Quarterly" a database designed to help
KK> computer dealers find the best prices forcomputer hardware. We are expand
KK> multi-media and would be referring dealers to your comany.  No charge for
KK> it's just part of our service.
KK> Thanks!
KK> Kevin King, SysOp

Could you send me more info on the Resellers Quarterly Im interested in
this it sounds pretty good my fido # is 1:290/17
thanks                          Mark Glenn

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From: MARK GLENN                             Number: 5190
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 09/24/93  4:02p
Subj: Night Owl V10                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Ray!

In a message to Ed Fortin <09/21/93> Ray Herold wrote:

RH> Will do Ed, tho the Oct. 1 date looks pretty good right now.  Just as a
RH> little "tease", I did some stats on the DIRs before I sent them up to NY
RH> and here are some of the results:

RH>                    Dupes with Night Owl 9:           0
RH>                    Night Owl 10 internal dupes:      0
RH>                    % 1993 files                    100%
RH>                    % of files dated Jul-Sept '93    75%  !!

RH> We still have some final preparation to do so these may vary *slightly*
RH> when the disk is released, but DAMN those stats look good!

RH> btw: You should receive the TCM Newsletter in about a week with more
RH> info.....

Can I recieve the newsletter im interested in the v10 of nightowl

Mark Glenn
2715 Linden St.
Des Moines, Iowa 50312

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From: ADRIAN SALAS                           Number: 5191
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/25/93 12:34p
Subj: CD-SALE               1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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Software Vault Gold 1993 - 100% 1993 Shareware files 600+ Megabytes
of the best shareware. Includes Six different file formats for use with
almost all BBS'. All files have been searched and are free of BBS adds
for quality. The Best BBS disc around. Price 32.00 PC

So Much Shareware 3 - Certified user friendly, no knowledge of ZIP
required. Contains 650 megabytes of the most exciting shareware
programs available anywhere at ANY PRICE. Fantastic VGA arcade
games, home & hobby, graphics, clip art, sound files, financial programs,
OS/2, Windows applications, fonts & more. Really something for
everyone! Price 32.00 PC

So Much Shareware 2 - Contains 550 Megabytes of the most exciting
shareware programs available. BBS Ready. Price 29.00 PC

Shareware Extravaganza - This is a 4 CD set! 25,000+ Shareware
programs, includes 300 megabytes of windows programs OS/2, utilities,
business, games, education and much more. Price 50.00 PC

Night Owl 9 - The latest in the Nightowl Shareware series. All files 1993,
2% duplication with NO8 and includes its exclusive retrieval system. Price
32.00 PC

Night Owl 8 - Most titles 1992, Includes Business, CAD, games and many
more directories. Over 600 Megabytes. Price  29.00 PC

Dr. Series - Includes Dr. Shareware, Dr. Games. Dr. Windows, Dr.
Music. These disc are very well put together and contain the latest
software in there category. All 1992-93 files. Please specify which of
the 4 you would like. Price 20.00 each PC

CICA Windows - April 1993 Edition, Hundreds of utilities, including
shells, disk utilities, mouse and keyboard utilities, screen savers
backup/restore programs, diagnostic, and data conversion programs.
Dozens of games including video games such as Tetris and asteroids,
strategy games such as checkers and chess, word games, card games.
Demos for commercial programs. Drivers for a large variety of printers
and video monitors. Large collection of icons and bitmaps. Source code
listing for C, C++, Toolbook, Turbo Pascal, and Visual Basic. An
indispensable resource for any serious Windows user. Price 29.00 PC


PC-SIG 12th Edition - 3,700 programs has one line descriptions for quick
reference. Easy category selection so you can quickly jump in and begin
browsing. Price 30.00 PC

Software Vault 2 - 630 Megs of IBM PC compatible software, contains
the hottest software hits. Desktop Publishing, fonts, database, health,
food, graphics, math, science, religion, CAD, CAM, Engineering, DOS,
Unix, Help, Novell, Lantastic, BBS. Soundblaster, Midi, Business,
Windows, Home, Family, Games, Humor, etc. 24 categories in all. Price
28.00 PC

SoundWAV - This disc contains over 600 megabytes of professionally
recorded WAV files, ranging from the everyday to the exotic-royalty free
sound that will bring life to your multimedia presentations! Each WAV
will run directly of the CD-ROM under the Windows operating system.
Price 26.95 PC

VGA Spectrum 2 - 680 Megabytes of the best soundblaster and animation
software. Run directly off the CD-ROM. User friendly menu. Price 19.00
PC

Super CD 1 -  Super BBS collection of shareware, covers most topics and
would allow you set up an entire BBS with just this CD, nothing else.
Built in interface is easy to use. Price 22.00 PC

Super CD 2 - Super CD continues with its 2nd release, contains a great
deal of shareware ranging in all sorts of topics, user friendly and easy to
use. Price 29.00 PC

TIME Desert Storm - Here are the highlights of Desert Storm with
hundreds of pictures, live video, recorded interviews and articles on the
Gulf War. This disc will make anyone an expert on the war. Price 29.95
MAC/MPC/PC

Firearms Reference 1993 - FR1993 has been designed to appeal to the
largest possible audience. For this reason, we have included information
on a broad spectrum of firearms and related products. For the historian,
we have included a large selection of Black Powder revolvers and rifles
reminiscent of the Civil War. For the Hunter, a multitude of hunting
weapons may be found in the rifle and shotgun sections. The pistol
section includes everything from the classic Colt 45 to the modern 50
caliber Desert Eagle. A special class three weapons section in included
and features the latest trends in machine guns and silencers. The
reloading section is a comprehensive catalog of the current technology
used in reloading ammunition at home. To fill in the gaps, the
Miscellaneous sections contains everything from crossbows to cannon. A

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From: ADRIAN SALAS                           Number: 5192
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/25/93 12:34p
Subj: CD-SALE               2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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must for the gun enthusiast. Price 35.00 PC.

Desktop Publishers Dream Disc - This is a great CD for home and
business use. Includes a large reference manual for easy look up. many
choices of quality pictures. Tons of clipart in PCX, ART, Bitmap and
much more. Over 500 TRUE TYPE FONTS. Clipart includes Logos,
sports, science building, business, people, technology and more. Price
37.50 PC

PC-MEDIC - A complete set of diagnostic tolls for your computer, all
menu driven for ease of use. Includes many reference manuals to help
you install may different components found in todays PCs. Includes
Tutorials and configuration tips. Price 29.50 PC

*** ADULT TITLES ***
Busty Babes v1 Release 3 - Very well produced adult CD. Erotic
collection of Adult GIFs. BBS ready. Price 32.00 PC

Ecstasy Hot Pics'v1 - Over 650 megs of Erotic XXX viewing pleasure.
Over 300 adult animations(some with sound). Over 2600 Hi-Res
VGA/SVGA pictures and 470 fantasy stories. BBS ready. Price 35.00 PC

Erotic Encounters v2 - 640+ megs of high quality graphics XXX. BBS
ready. Price 35.00

Hot Hunks - The first ALL MALE CD 600, megs a male masculinity,
BBS ready. Price 35.00 PC

Luscious Ladies - 640 Megs of the most luscious ladies ever seen, a must
for the adult collector. High resolution graphics. BBS ready. Price 35.00
PC.

PC-PIX 3 - 650 megs of quality GIFs. No duplication between all 3
volumes. BBS ready. Price 35.00

Asian Ladies - A collection of beautiful Oriental women, 19 different
directories. High resolution graphics XXX. Price 35.00 PC

PORK-WARE  2 - 3,308 High quality GIFs and 135 movies. 648 megs.
BBS Ready. Price 35.00 PC

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From: DAVID ROBERTS                          Number: 5193
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/25/93  5:46p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES 1 FOR SAL               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 MS> No, I'm not making it up Keith.  The person who quoted $150 later
 MS> called back and cancelled, taking the high bid back to $125.  Recently
 MS> though, another person DID bid $150, which makes that the high mark to
 MS> date. 
 MS> Later,
 MS> .\\ike

Hi Mike, can you give me the name and phone number of the individual that
bidded $125?  Since this is no longer your highest bidder, I'm more than
willing to sell my copy to him for the $125 price he offered.  Thanks for
your help and if you wish to call me with the info, my number is
808-624-1293.  If this deal does not go through, would you be willing to
trade some of the CDs you sell right now for this copy of BB?


... Crime wouldn't pay if the government ran it.
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From: ANDREW SCHNEIDER                       Number: 5194
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/25/93  8:38p
Subj: USED CD'S                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following used CD's for sale:

Night Owl v8.0         $20.00 
PC-SIG v12.0           $20.00
Shareware Studio v1.0  $15.00
------------------------------
All three              $50.00

If you would like to buy one or more of the above CD's, please leave me a
message here.  I may be willing to trade, depending on what you have.
 
                              Andrew Schneider


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From: RUSSELL NABER                          Number: 5195
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/26/93  6:20a
Subj: Review of STAREware                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Bob!

Saturday September 25 1993, Bob Jackson writes to Chris Christensen:

 BJ> OK, tell you what I'll try to do. I can (with some effort) OCR them back
 BJ> into electronic form. After that, I'll see if the sysop of this BBS (Dan
 BJ> Guillory - a sterling fellow) will put them in an area where they can be
 BJ> freq-ed by other sysops. If that's not a viable route at least they'll be
 BJ> available on a floppy for anyone that wants them that way. I'll keep the
 BJ> echo posted on my progress - but this will take more than a day or two to
 BJ> pull off. Thanks for the interest.

This would be great Bob, As I am in the final steps to purchasing a CD ROM
drive and would greatly appreciate a complete package of review's to base my
purchases of CDROM disk's that is soon to follow.



Russell

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From: ALAN ORNDORFF                          Number: 5196
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 09/26/93  8:37a
Subj: os/2 cd-rom                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Dave,

   I have received a few responses from folks regarding as OS/2 specific
cd-rom.  I have ordered two of them.  Hobbes os/2 and another one
entitled ems's os/2 utility library.  Now I have also received a message
on what would appear to be another good one to pick up from your
organization.

   Having only 2.x files is a big plus. I have only one question for
you.  Hopefully you are aware of what is on the other tw cd's.  If I
purchase this one also, will I end up with a lot of dupes, or is it
worth investing in this one, since I've already ordered the other two.
All of them seem to be fairly recent, but I imagine there will be a lot
of "Different" files on all three.  thank you.

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From: ERIC ESKAM                             Number: 5197
  To: JOE LOOSMORE                             Date: 09/25/93  3:43p
Subj: Wtb Mircosoft Works                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>I am looking for either Microsoft Works or Q&A in CD 
JL>format, willing to pay fair price.


How about $55?  No manuals, sealed in the package.

If interested, call 702-294-1094 during the day or leave a message at night.

Eric
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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 5198
  To: PETE CRESSWELL                           Date: 09/26/93  9:48a
Subj: OS2 CDROM                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Pete,

Answering a msg of <25 Sep 93>, from Pete Cresswell to All:

I have OS/2 Archive, for sale for the low price of $18



Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: MACY BERGOON                           Number: 5199
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/24/93  7:22p
Subj: CD's...                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All:

I am interested in buying any Shareware CD's, Especially Programmer
related CD's....  (New or Used).  Reply Here....

                        Macy


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From: WARREN DANIO                           Number: 5200
  To: MIKE BRAUN                               Date: 09/25/93  3:08a
Subj: CDROM FOR-SALE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* Mike Braun said to All, the following:

MB > to all!!

MB >         MITSUMI high speed internal cd-rom drive for sale
MB > or trade for a
MB >         lower grade rom like NEC rom player!! Mitsumi does
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  I'll just assume you are a
        NEWBY when you go from MITSUMI to NEC you are definately
        goinging up in quality. Like you said "my mitsumi does not
        support os/2" AND a WHOLE lot else. If it was so dam good
        you wouldent be getting read of it..

MB > not support
MB >         os/2 so i am selling or tradding this one for
MB > another rom drive!
MB >         This one works great in dos but not at all in
MB > os/2!! If you have
MB >         no trade i'm looking to get $225!!

MB >                                             MITSUMI DRIVE
MB >                                             SPEED 350MSEC
MB >                                             TRANSFER RATE
MB > 150KB/SEC
MB >                                             XA UPGRADEABLE
MB >                                             PHOTO-CD
MB > UPGRADEABLE
MB >                                             CD-AUDIO JACK
MB >                                             BUS DEDICATED
MB >                                             WIN-NT
MB > COMPATIBLE
MB >          With software and card!! Only 3 months old!!! Must
MB > sell or
MB >          trade!! please contact me at (203)347-3842 or send
MB > fido to
MB >          MUSTANGMIKES BBS 1:320/3842 THANKYOU SYSOP MIKE
MB > BRAUN!!
                ROFLMAO!    Warren

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5201
  To: KIRK REEVES                              Date: 09/25/93  6:48p
Subj: Re: PANASONIC CDROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BO>>    The ALL NEW Panosonic 562 is here!
 BO>>            Complete Ready To Run - Price - $249.00
 BO>>                  FREE C.C.I T-Shirt

>>    Is this CD kodak photo capibilable?

Yep....

Please feel free to call us if you have anyother questions.

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5202
  To: TIM RYAN                                 Date: 09/25/93  6:48p
Subj: Re: PANASONIC CDROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=>> Quoting Boris Osadciw to All <=-

 BO>> ))))))))))))))))))  P A N A S O N I C  5 6 2  ((((((((((((((((((((
 BO>> The ALL NEW Panosonic 562 is here and ready for delievery!!
 BO>> 340ms access time / 300kps transfer rate
 BO>> Multi-Spin / SB Compatiable / with Interface
 BO>> Complete Ready To Run - Price - $249.00
 BO>> FREE C.C.I T-Shirt With Order
 BO>> 500+ CDROM Tiltes To Select From

 BO>> ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517
 BO>> TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759

>>    Looks very interesting....Please send me details
>>                    Tim Ryan

What other information do you need ?  I though we had covered it pretty
well.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5203
  To: JOE LOOSMORE                             Date: 09/25/93  6:48p
Subj: Re: WTB Mircosoft Works                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I am looking for either Microsoft Works or Q&A in CD format,
>>    willing to pay  fair price.

How about Microsoft's Works and Bookshelf on one cd ??

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and
we'll be glad to help you further.

Price - $80. for both....

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: DAVE BAKKER                            Number: 5204
  To: RICHARD VONZEL                           Date: 09/24/93  8:02a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVES FOR SALE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

( 09-22-93 ) Richard Vonzel wrote to All about CD-ROM DRIVES FOR SALE

RV>Hello All!
RV>
RV>   I have 3 Mitsumi 8 bit internal drives for sale, all in great condi
RV>have been working on my bbs for sometime. 150.00 + C.O.D. Great for a
RV>Contact me here or netmail me a 1:282/3022
RV>
RV>
RV>Richard
RV>
RV>--- GoldEd 2.41/FastEcho 1.25+
RV> * Origin: The File Cabinet BBS v32 (612) 885-0537 (1:282/3022)

Hi, where are you writing from?  I'm from St.Catharines Ontario Canada.

Just want to know how far or close you are.

Why are you selling these?
What is the speed ____ms? and transfer rate?

Dave


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From: DAVE BAKKER                            Number: 5205
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/24/93  8:12a
Subj: PANASONIC CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

( 09-22-93 ) Boris Osadciw wrote to All about PANASONIC CD

BO>))))))))))))))))))  P A N A S O N I C  5 6 2  ((((((((((((((((((((
BO>   The ALL NEW Panosonic 562 is here and ready for delievery!!
BO>           340ms access time / 300kps transfer rate
BO>         Multi-Spin / SB Compatiable / with Interface
BO>           Complete Ready To Run - Price - $249.00
BO>                 FREE C.C.I T-Shirt With Order
BO>               500+ CDROM Tiltes To Select From
BO>
BO>              ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517
BO>          TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
BO>
BO>
BO>
BO>Boris Osadciw




A couple of questions,

1.  Do you have an external one?
2.  I have the old sound blaster, the plain one not the pro, will this
    work with the cd rom drive?
3.  could I play normal music cd's on this ?

4.  I'm from canada, where are you located? Because I want to know the
    canadien price for this.

Thanks for now.

Dave



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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5206
  To: ROEL SARCENO                             Date: 09/24/93  3:36p
Subj: HACKER?                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>-> Over 12 years in the making - The HACKER CHRONICLES - A Tour of the
>-> computer underground.

>Is this disk BBS ready?

 I don't know offhand - haven't had a chance to really look at one yet.

>How much is it again and where do I send the money.

 $30, shipping included IF prepaid.

 Brice's Library
 5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
 Indianapolis, IN 46220

 (317) 726-1980 voice (Tu Th 11AM - 8PM  We Fr 11AM - 6PM EST)


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5207
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 09/24/93  3:40p
Subj: SB PRO-COMPATIBLE CD-ROM                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> > know of 2 cards that support the 005S directly.  I am using the Sound
> > Pro FX

>Is that the name of the sound board (Sound Pro FX)?  I haven't seen anything
>with that name in the catalogs.

Try Aztec Galaxy Pro FX....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5208
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/24/93  5:27p
Subj: ADULT CD ROM'S                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>'Giffy Girls'
>BBS allowable disc's to the best of my knowledge.

Giffy Girls is specifically BBS allowable - I used to work for Marc Teitler
(one of the folks that put it together) and discussed this one with him at the
One Con....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5209
  To: RANDY RAE                                Date: 09/24/93  5:28p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Is there any cd-rom disk drive that can hold more then 1 cd

Pioneer DRM-600, Pioneer DRM-600A, Pioneer DRM-604X, and several MUCH more
expensive and larger drives from various makers.


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 5210
  To: MARCIAL MORENO                           Date: 09/25/93  6:20a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom wholesalers and pu           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 23 Sep 93  18:28:00, I heard Marcial Moreno shout to All:

MM> @SUBJECT:CD-ROM Wholesalers and Publishers                           N
MM>   ******************> ATTENTION CD-ROM WHOLESALERS <*****************

Call 1-800-638-5757

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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 5211
  To: HANK PETERSON                            Date: 09/23/93 10:59a
Subj: REALLY???                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Are you serious??? you really know people from the x rated video industry???
I'd love to chat with you sometime about this! I think its time I built a small
shrine in my living room with your picture in it.....  :)    Bob

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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 5212
  To: THOMAS NUFER                             Date: 09/23/93 11:04a
Subj: NASA                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I hear you are looking for the 10 CD set for nasa pics... I am also desperately
looking. I had the chance last year to buy it, for $75 at a show in boston, but
I didnt want to carry it!!! I know I know... I have your name, and if I ever
see them, Ill be sure to let you know where.  Also, if you happen to find them,
PLEASE let me know.. I desperatly WANT them... Thanks thomas...   bob

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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 5213
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/23/93 11:11a
Subj: CDROM DISCS 1 OF 2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Doug.. couple of questions... Is the encyclopedia of sound .wav format??? What
is danger hot stuff 2? is the guiness book of records multi media? and do you
have the NASA 10 CD set??? I would be interested in the above cdroms.

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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 5214
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/23/93 11:15a
Subj: CDROM DISCS 2 OF 2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Also.. what is space shuttle..?  Thanks again... Bob

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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 5215
  To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                       Date: 09/23/93 11:18a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would also like to be on the mailing list...
Bob Damato
300 george street,8A3       New haven, ct 06511

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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 5216
  To: REBEL                                    Date: 09/23/93 11:20a
Subj: CD ROM FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can you tell more about it? Is it REAL SCSI, speed, throughput etc...? THanks

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From: DOUG BURDEN                            Number: 5217
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/25/93  3:22p
Subj: Mystique of the Orient &                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*@SUBJECT:Mystique of the Orient & Thunderboard                       N
Has anyone had any luck in getting Mytique of the Orient to work with
the Thunderbaord sound card? The disk thinks it see's a SB then nothing.
I am also having the same problem with Extreme delight.

If I need to replace the sound card do you have any ideas. Cost is
a factor.

Thanks
Doug
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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 5218
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/25/93  2:46p
Subj: USED CD's for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following used cd's for sale:

Software toolworks illustrated encyclopedia for $25

The bible library for $20

OS/2 archive for $18

CD Powerbox for $25

All prices do not include P&H
Trades for other CD's will be consitered.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 5219
  To: KIRK REEVES                              Date: 09/25/93  9:43a
Subj: ORDER                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Other people have had problems with Doug,  just read the messages to him.  I
found about 1-2.

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 5220
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/25/93  1:57p
Subj: BIG CD-ROM LIST 1/2                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Whats up mike,  thanks for talking to Doug For me...  Hes a pretty nice guy.
bought a 486sx/33 Mhz MotherBoard and I should have a Job soon,  I'm a teen so
What the price would be in a month becase I can't afford it now since I just
bought a 486sx/33 Mhz MotherBoard and I should have a Job soon,  I'm a teen so
it should be easy.  Well just get back to me soon though, because the BBS that
i'm mailing this on goes down on the 1st so I guess I'll have to start leaving
you mail on the Phantoms Lair now.  OK well,  BYE!

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 5221
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/25/93  2:02p
Subj: CAnadian People CD-ROM dealers          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HI I was wondering if there was any Canadian CD-rOM dealers and how much could
they get me 7th Guest for Canadian.

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5222
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/23/93  7:23p
Subj: Lowest CD-Rom Prices Yet!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have been very busy working on our new catalog with the most titles 
and lowest prices yet.  This price list can be downloaded from the 
Computer Works BBS on your first call at 14.4 kbps.  Here is a small 
sampling of our regular prices: 
 
Big Sky Rom             $26             Night Owl 9             $24 
CICA Windows            $14             Hacker Chronicles       $25 
Monster Media #1 1993   $30             Night Owl Graphics      $29 
PC Sig 12               $24             Phoenix Rom 4.0         $23 
Shareware Explorer Set  $53             So Much Shareware 3     $26 
Software Vault 2        $23             Software Vault Gold     $27 
 
Compare our prices to anyone and you will see that we are a serious 
competitor in the CD-Rom market.  We now sell over 600 titles in many 
different categories for the largest selection available.  If you see a 
lower price on any non-closeout title, bring it to us and we will beat 
it!  Download CATALOG1.ZIP for the list sorted by titles or CATALOG2.ZIP 
for the list sorted by category. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders 24 Hours/Day 
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From: DANNY TSENG                            Number: 5223
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/25/93 11:43a
Subj: OS2 Shareware                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi. all

    I'm looking for a CD which just contains OS/2 shareware and is BBS ready.
Could anyone give some suggestion about which OS/2 CD is better and where I can
get it.

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From: LOUIS SOKOL                            Number: 5224
  To: KEVIN KING                               Date: 09/25/93  3:43p
Subj: LOOKING FOR CD-ROM JUKE BOX             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KK> my list for dealers to contact you.  If you have a price list or 
KK> product catalog, please mail to Kevin King C/O Reseller's Quarterly" 
KK> P.O. Box 277481, Sacramento, CA. 95827. We are in business to help 
KK> other dealers find products to resell as well. Some manufactuers 

KK> call and down load RESALE93.ZIP or reply to this message with your 
KK> mailing address and I'll mail you a copy. 

Please send info on your service to: 

JET Computer Services
3350 Highway 6, Suite 563
Sugar Land, TX 77478 

Voice 713/265-1010     Fax 713/980-9435 

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From: LOUIS SOKOL                            Number: 5225
  To: ROB PERELMAN                             Date: 09/25/93  3:51p
Subj: FREE CATALOG                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RP> you haveto do is send me your name and address or your fax number and 
RP> he willmail you a free catalog by mail or fax - YOUR CHOICE!!!  Just 

Send me a catalog by fax at 713/980-9435 or mail one to JET Computer Services,
3350 Highway 6, Suite 563, Sugar Land, TX 77478 

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From: HANK PETERSON                          Number: 5226
  To: THE SISTER                               Date: 09/24/93  6:56p
Subj: CD's for Women                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (21 Sep 93) The Sister wrote to Jean-claude Demars...

 TS> Hello Jean-claude!
 TS> 
 TS> In a message to The Sister <09/20/93> Jean-claude Demars wrote:
 TS> 
 TS> JD> TS> Let's move this to the Adultlinks Cd-rom Echo. Out of the
 TS> JD> TS> way of Prying Eyes!
 TS> 
 TS> JD> Is this a Fido area, or the CDROM area on another network?  And if
 TS> anothe
 TS> JD> network, you can tell me about how to get a feed?
 TS> It would be another Network. Adultlinks...an adult network Contact 
 TS> Karen Richmond she is the current ZC. I don't recall her fido Number. 
 TS> But when I find it I will send it to you!  It is 1:123/43.
 TS>         Joannine
  
         Karen Richmond can be reached at The_Mermaid's_Point 123/43
         (901) 365-6410

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From: THOMAS ALLRED                          Number: 5227
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/23/93 11:52p
Subj: cd-roms wanted x-rated                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

i am looking to buy x-rated cd rom's any kind except male gays

please leave me a messge here of what you have and how much $

am looking to buy now


                                          thanks  
 

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5228
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 09/24/93  7:14p
Subj: <> CD-ROM TITLES & MORE <>              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RD>           I would like to become a satisfied 
 RD> customer as well Doug!  How
 RD> abouti, what's the state of my order which was 
 RD> placed on your BBS a while back?
 RD>  I have had an order from Boris, delivered (with 
 RD> one case broken) returned and
 RD> replaced, but STILL nothing from you.

I read your message that you left on my BBS and then somehow missed getting
back to it to get it logged in the order system.  Your order will be on it's
way tommorrow 9/25 by express mail with a reduction in the CD prices due to the
delay.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5229
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 09/24/93  7:16p
Subj: <> CD-ROM TITLES & MORE <>              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DS> Thanks for getting back to me...  BYE I appreciate this.

Glad to be of service, and sorry whatever happened, happened.  Your order is on
it's way Express Mail with a $5 refund for your phone calls.  Your express mail
number is GB306014280US for reference.  Let me know if you don't receive it by
Monday or so.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 5230
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/24/93 11:48p
Subj: free Cream of the Crop cd!              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Hello !

 I'm offering a free Cream of the Crop cd with the  purchase  of a
 Shareware Studio II and Up All Night cd.   I  am  overstocked  in
 these disc and am selling them out for $25 each.  In other  words
 get ALL three disc for $50.   !!!    But wait! That's not all.  I
 will pay the shipping and c.o.d. charges too!  Call  205-824-2552
 before supplies run out.


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From: STEVE PROCTOR                          Number: 5231
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/23/93  7:44a
Subj: OS/2                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I currently have the WIN-OS/2 CDROM but its quite old.  Does anyone have
a newwer CDROM full of OS/2 applications and files.bbs files so I can
add this to my BBS?  If so, who and whats the name and price.

Thanks,
Steve Proctor


... Your Sacramento OS/2 Support BBS!
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From: ROEL SARCENO                           Number: 5232
  To: RAVAGE SUPREME                           Date: 09/24/93  8:31p
Subj: HACKER?                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Al,

-> (304)744-2253.  If you want more information on the CD itself, go to
-> newstand and look for PC-Computing (OCTOBER 93 ISSUE).  It was review
-> rated #3 in the Unusual CD's Available.  To find out more about P-80
-> known as Pirate-80), you can sift thru the Newweek archives, they wer
-> mentioned several times there as a prodominate Underground Board...As
-> on the Phil Donahue show.  Anyway----The disc is great if you are int
-> learning thing....and great if you just want to know HOW THEY DID IT!
->
-> Let me know how it works out for ya!

Thank's for the info.  I'll buy a copy of PC-Computing.  Too bad it's
not bbs ready because I would like to share it with my users.

Roel


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From: BRIAN GREENDAHL                        Number: 5233
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/24/93 10:07p
Subj: cdrom info                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

can anyone recomend a good cd-rom to buy for a multi-line bbs

Brian

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From: RICK DUNLAP                            Number: 5234
  To: KEITH TURNER                             Date: 09/25/93  5:27p
Subj: Re: REVIEW HAMWARE 1993                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Keith Turner to Mike Shannon <=-

 KT> Mike, 
 KT> heard about your cdroms for sale in memphis ,tn from 
 KT> the local area net hub and local sysops, please send me a 
 KT> cataloge to:

 KT>  ! Origin: Buccaneer's Harbor - Millington, Tn (901) 873-2837 -
 KT> (1:123/2)

     Hi Keith, I happened to read your post to Mike Shannon. I just wanted
     to say hello. I used to live in Memphis. My wife Brenda used to call 
     your BBS. I've done business with Mike several times, and have always 
     been satisfied with the prices, and customer service.
     
     By the way, at the next Hah, if you see Ed Arndt, or Steve Cross, tell 
     them I said Hi.
     
            Take Care...Rick Dunlap

... Self-made man: A horrible example of unskilled labor.
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From: JIM SHEPPARD                           Number: 5235
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 09/25/93  7:51p
Subj: ANNIVERSARY SPECIAL!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Mark,
    Could you send a catalog of your CD's to:
                Jim Sheppard
                7740 Batavia Lane
                Charlotte, NC 28213-5058
    
                Thanx,
    
                Jim
    
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From: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN                      Number: 5236
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/26/93  1:27p
Subj: Review of STAREware                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > OK, tell you what I'll try to do. I can (with some
 > effort) OCR them back into electronic form. After
 > that, I'll see if the sysop of this BBS (Dan Guillory
 > - a sterling fellow) will put them in an area where
 > they can be freq-ed by other sysops. If that's not a
 > viable route at least they'll be available on a floppy
 > for anyone that wants them that way. I'll keep the
 > echo posted on my progress - but this will take more
 > than a day or two to pull off. Thanks for the
 > interest.

Excellent! I would freq them if the sysop would put them up. If not I would
send some disks to you for copies. Appreciate your efforts in the reviews and
the extra work to convert them.

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From: ADRIAN SALAS                           Number: 5237
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/26/93  5:22p
Subj: CD SALES & MORE!      1/3               Refer: NONE
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Software Vault Gold 1993 - 100% 1993 Shareware files 600+ Megabytes
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everyone! Price 35.00 PC

So Much Shareware 2 - Contains 550 Megabytes of the most exciting
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Shareware Extravaganza - This is a 4 CD set! 25,000+ Shareware
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Night Owl 9 - The latest in the Nightowl Shareware series. All files 1993,
2% duplication with NO8 and includes its exclusive retrieval system. Price
32.00 PC

Night Owl 8 - Most titles 1992, Includes Business, CAD, games and many
more directories. Over 600 Megabytes. Price  29.00 PC

Dr. Series - Includes Dr. Shareware, Dr. Games. Dr. Windows, Dr.
Music. These disc are very well put together and contain the latest
software in there category. All 1993 files. Please specify which of the 4
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CICA Windows - April 1993 Edition, Hundreds of utilities, including
shells, disk utilities, mouse and keyboard utilities, screen savers
backup/restore programs, diagnostic, and data conversion programs.
Dozens of games including video games such as Tetris and asteroids,
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Demos for commercial programs. Drivers for a large variety of printers
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PC-SIG 12th Edition - 3,700 programs has one line descriptions for quick
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browsing. Price 35.00 PC

Software Vault 2 - 630 Megs of IBM PC compatible software, contains
the hottest software hits. Desktop Publishing, fonts, database, health,
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SoundWAV - This disc contains over 600 megabytes of professionally
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Price 26.95 PC

VGA Spectrum 2 - 680 Megabytes of the best soundblaster and animation
software. Run directly off the CD-ROM. User friendly menu. Price 19.00
PC

Super CD 1 -  Super BBS collection of shareware, covers most topics and
would allow you set up an entire BBS with just this CD, nothing else.
Built in interface is easy to use. Price 22.00 PC

Super CD 2 - Super CD continues with its 2nd release, contains a great
deal of shareware ranging in all sorts of topics, user friendly and easy to
use. Price 29.00 PC

TIME Desert Storm - Here are the highlights of Desert Storm with
hundreds of pictures, live video, recorded interviews and articles on the
Gulf War. This disc will make anyone an expert on the war. Price 29.95
MAC/MPC/PC

Firearms Reference 1993 - FR1993 has been designed to appeal to the
largest possible audience. For this reason, we have included information
on a broad spectrum of firearms and related products. For the historian,
we have included a large selection of Black Powder revolvers and rifles
reminiscent of the Civil War. For the Hunter, a multitude of hunting
weapons may be found in the rifle and shotgun sections. The pistol
section includes everything from the classic Colt 45 to the modern 50
caliber Desert Eagle. A special class three weapons section in included
and features the latest trends in machine guns and silencers. The
reloading section is a comprehensive catalog of the current technology
used in reloading ammunition at home. To fill in the gaps, the
Miscellaneous sections contains everything from crossbows to cannon. A
must for the gun enthusiast. Price 35.00 PC.

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From: ADRIAN SALAS                           Number: 5238
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/26/93  5:22p
Subj: CD SALES & MORE!      2/3               Refer: NONE
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Desktop Publishers Dream Disc - This is a great CD for home and
business use. Includes a large reference manual for easy look up. many
choices of quality pictures. Tons of clipart in PCX, ART, Bitmap and
much more. Over 500 TRUE TYPE FONTS. Clipart includes Logos,
sports, science building, business, people, technology and more. Price
39.50 PC

PC-MEDIC - A complete set of diagnostic tolls for your computer, all
menu driven for ease of use. Includes many reference manuals to help
you install may different components found in todays PCs. Includes
Tutorials and configuration tips. Price 32.50 PC

*** ADULT TITLES ***
Busty Babes v1 Release 3 - Very well produced adult CD. Erotic
collection of Adult GIFs. BBS ready. Price 32.00 PC

Ecstasy Hot Pics'v1 - Over 650 megs of Erotic XXX viewing pleasure.
Over 300 adult animations(some with sound). Over 2600 Hi-Res
VGA/SVGA pictures and 470 fantasy stories. BBS ready. Price 35.00 PC

Erotic Encounters v2 - 640+ megs of high quality graphics XXX. BBS
ready. Price 35.00

Hot Hunks - The first ALL MALE CD 600, megs a male masculinity,
BBS ready. Price 35.00 PC

Luscious Ladies - 640 Megs of the most luscious ladies ever seen, a must
for the adult collector. High resolution graphics. BBS ready. Price 35.00
PC.

PC-PIX 3 - 650 megs of quality GIFs. No duplication between all 3
volumes. BBS ready. Price 35.00

Asian Ladies - A collection of beautiful Oriental women, 19 different
directories. High resolution graphics XXX. Price 35.00 PC

PORK-WARE  2 - 3,308 High quality GIFs and 135 movies. 648 megs.
BBS Ready. Price 35.00 PC

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From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                     Number: 5240
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/26/93  7:18p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN> In a message to Lee Noga <09-19-93 02:51> Jean-Claude Demars
LN> wrote:

LN> JD>> BB II is 1000 images licensed to us by the photographer
LN> JD>> do you offer any type of satisfaction guarantee?

LN> What is your biggest fear, that you are concerned about
LN> satisfaction ? I can guarentee these images have never been
LN> seen before, they have been scanned in high quality, the
LN> front end interface is a no brainer, the packaging is
LN> nice--I can't gurantee it will meet your personal
LN> preferences, but can any disc do this ? But let me say, I
LN> don't spend 25 grand, to publish 'Loser' disc's--

Then your confidence should allow you to stand behind the disk.  I've bought
quite a few discs in my day, that are now sitting in a file cabinet.  Being
all new files, I have no way at all of knowing what kind of quality they are.
Being all original's, i tend to think of some of the AM files I've been sent.

Guess I'll just have to pass on it..


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From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                     Number: 5241
  To: THE SISTER                               Date: 09/26/93  7:44p
Subj: CD's for Women                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TS> JD> network, you can tell me about how to get a feed?
TS> It would be another Network. Adultlinks...an adult network
TS> Contact
TS> Karen Richmond she is the current ZC. I don't recall her
TS> fido Number.
TS> But when I find it I will send it to you!  It is 1:123/43.

Thanks... 

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From: THOMAS ALLRED                          Number: 5242
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/25/93  8:11p
Subj: cd rom drive for sale cheap             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

i have a external cd rom drive it is a BSR 6800MX i dont have the controller
card but i am sure you can get one DAK industries sells the drive but it is
made by mitsumi so i pretty sure one of those companies will sell the
controller card i have an internal cd rom so i don't have any use for it
i may also trade for some cd rom title's i am looking for xxx-rated cd roms
but no male gay cd-rom or i will sell it to the highest offer looking to sell
or trade asap may also trade for a 9600 baud modem or higher speed
my number is 305-989-1473 or leave me a message here



                                                    thanks
                                                  TOM ALLRED  
 

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From: HANK PETERSON                          Number: 5243
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/25/93  7:03p
Subj: Re: Review of STAREware                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (24 Sep 93) Lee Noga wrote to Bob Jackson...

 LN> Having exposure in this industry, we have traveled around the country
 LN> to meet on this topic with those that 'GodFather' the adult video
 LN> industry. We have consulted the attorneys that specialize in the
 LN> representation of the seculiar, and it was an eye opener--There are a
 LN> tremendous amount of people serving time who operated much like we in
 LN> the 'Grassroot' era--Now, publishers like myself have to sweat out the
 LN> statute of limitations, and hope we don't do time for products we put
 LN> out prior--With what I know now, our "XXX" days are over and we have
 LN> started a new company with a whole different attitude as well as
 LN> product line--We have chosen to work with Hollywood agents and deal in
 LN> name brand collections--beginning after the release of Busty Babes II
 LN> and Texas Glamour-- (all licensed collections)
 LN> a) American Dream Girls, LA Raiderettes, Venus Models, Chippendales
 LN> etc.
 LN> These are all collections that we have on a handshake, and are now at
 LN> contract signing for. Most any female collection found on calender, we
 LN> will do a ROM with--
 LN> This may please some, and disapoint others, but sometimes you have to
 LN> set your horizons a little higher :) We plan to be around a LOOOooong
 LN> time.
   
     When I went on patrol in Korea in the 50's, we had a saying about the 
     guy who lead the way. Don't get too far out front because you might
     get shot in the ass.  I can see how that would apply in todays 
     CD-ROM market. I appreciate your comments and love to hear what you
     have to say about the industry. Thanks for your insight. I wonder if 
     you might sign on to the Law Echo. there are lots of attorneys and
     law students who would love to get involved in a discussion about
     freedom of expression. Who knows, you might come away with some new 
     ideas.      In the meantime:
 

... When the light turns green, step on the gas and go like hell

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5244
  To: CHARLIE HEISS                            Date: 09/26/93  7:33a
Subj: Review of Raincoat CDs                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks, Charlie. I appreciate the encouragement. I think Mike Shannon and I
have about 10 more "booked" over the next several weeks. Cheers!

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5245
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/26/93  7:42a
Subj: Re: Review of STAREware                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

As usual, Lee, your post is most informative. There's still some unceratinty
on my part whether the problems stem primarily from the XXX nature of the ROM
or the copyright issue or both. You spoke of statute of limitations and that
sounds like "copyright" (tho' I thought they were good for 99 years - a
l-o-n-g statute of limitations (:>  ), "licensed collections" (which also
sounds like "copyright"), but then go on to say your XXX days are over. One or
two more words of clarification would be appreciated. And since you've been
meeting with the video folks, what's their take on the XXX vid industry - same
problems??

As to historical knowledge, naahhh, I'll never know as much as you on this
point. I've only been following along for the last 2-3 years and I think ROMs
go back a lot further than that.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5246
  To: JERE WESSELL                             Date: 09/26/93  7:44a
Subj: Reviews                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks, Jere. I've rec'd a lot of encouragement so have no plans to quit just
now. Cheers!

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5247
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 09/25/93  7:12a
Subj: Re: Review of Raincoat CDs              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Max Green to Bob Jackson <=-

 MG> Well Bob if they are annoyed with your reviews they do have choices.
 MG> a) Continue reading!
 MG> b) Turn the page!
 MG> c) Change the echo!
 MG>
On re-reading your message another option occurred to me. I'll make sure
that all of my "review" posts have their subject line begin with the
word "Review". Those that don't want to read them can put that word in
their "twit filter" and thereby avoid those posts. How's that?

... Open mouth, insert foot, echo internationally.
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From: TIGER MOSES                            Number: 5248
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/26/93 11:40a
Subj: SCSI                                    Refer: NONE
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Boris, could you quote me a the lowest cost two drive scsi unit.
I guess I'd need an external; price and an internbal, I do have two bays
available.
I doubt much will be close to just buying two mitsumi, but scsi would be so
much more beneficial over time.
I am running a BBS now, and am using my manin system, but plan on moving it to
another.  I have a sony 51ua or something like that on mine and its fine for my
needs.  There's an idea.  I cna move it and add a mitsumi to the BBS PC and get
me a nice internal scsi with a sound card with scsi on it.  Thats what I want
qouted then.
My system is 1:106/2032, but it may not be on your list yet.  My system number
is 713-353-7286, if you want to reply via netmail.  If you'd give me a 90
warranty, I'd even consider a nice reconditioned unit!
So nobody has come up with a controller to handle dual mitsumis yet?
Tiger
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From: TIGER MOSES                            Number: 5249
  To: SYSOPS                                   Date: 09/26/93 11:46a
Subj: ROMDOOR                                 Refer: NONE
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I have heard this was supposed to be a good program, and it almost looks ok,
but....
I got the ROM Software Vault with thier SVL (Softwar Vault LIbrarian) program
and it works ok.  They have a special preconfigured edition of rom door with
data for the SV 1 & 2 disk.  Well, I have number 2 and when I run it, it gives
me a btrive error and says it cna porbably be corrected with a rebuild.  Well,
I am stuck and have no idea how to rebuild or generate new indexes.  The dis
has a files.bbs and sffiles.bbs in every dir and has more info stored
somewhere.  I like the idea of having a door and it handles the searching and
downloading, cuase I had to set up 48 dirs and other info for each area I
wanted on my system.  Ideas? Fixes?
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From: TIGER MOSES                            Number: 5250
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/26/93 11:51a
Subj: Re: scsi units                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris, tell me about these interanl SCSI philips units.  Under $200 each? 
Under 300$ each?  Does you sell the SB PRO that supports them?  What kinda 2
drive & card package can I get?  Not worried about the T-shirt, unless it
pretty non-nerdy!
Tig
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From: DAN GUILLORY                           Number: 5251
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 09/25/93  8:13p
Subj: Re: Night Owl V10                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

rn> Dan, please put me on your mailing list too.

rn> Randy Neuner
rn> 196 Hughes St
rn> Ft Huachuca, AZ 85613
rn> c/o High Noon BBS

Yo! Randy... You replied to the wrong person, I was also trying to get on the
mailing list.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5252
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/26/93 12:46p
Subj: BUSTY BABES #1 FOR SALE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PR> Are you interrested inthis CD have it and ready to trade or sell  
 PR> 512-939-9822                                                      
                                                                       
  
Well, yes and no. I don't have a 386/40 MB to trade and wouldn't pay 
what that's worth for the CD anyway. I think all the "bidding wars" over 
this thing are ridiculous. I offered Mike Shannon $50 for his copy, and 
I was stretching that a bit just 'cuz he's a friend. 
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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 5253
  To: MACY BERGOON                             Date: 09/27/93  9:38a
Subj: CD's...                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 09-24-93 Macy Bergoon wrote to All... 
 
 MB> I am interested in buying any Shareware CD's, Especially Programmer 
 MB> related CD's....  (New or Used).  Reply Here.... 
  
 Macy I have a new (still in Shrinkwrap) CDROM titled DISC to the FUTURE 
 PART II (don't ask me about part I <g>). It states on the back Programmer's 
 reference CD-ROM for the Macintosh, PC & UNIX. Over 300 Megabytes of  
 source code & utilities for the professional and part time MAC, PC, and 
 UNIX programmer. ALL text and source code is fully indexed with TEXTWARE. 
 
 3D-Graphics, Ray Tracing, Quicktime, JPEG, GIF, TIFF, PICT, Postscript. 
 APL, ASM, BASIC, C, C++, Forth, FORTRAN, Hypercard, LISP, MacAPP, PASCAL 
 Prolog, SMALLTALK, BTrees, Compliers, etc, etc, etc. I think you get the 
 picture. 
 
 I got it as part of a package. I'm not into programming so never even 
 looked at it. It's yours for $20 plus $2 postage. A money order will get 
 next day shipping and a check will get a week's wait before I ship. 
 
 If interested my name address and telephone # are as follows: 
 
 Paul F. Swider           (702) 877-4907 
 509 Digger St. 
 Las Vegas, Nv. 
 89107 
 
 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50  "A good hacker knows all the right MOVs." 

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 5254
  To: ROB PERELMAN                             Date: 09/26/93  5:49a
Subj: Re: FREE CATALOG                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will take a catalog.  Mail to:

Randy Neuner
196 Hughes St
Ft Huachuca, AZ 85613

c/o High Noon BBS

Thanks

... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: ED MARQUIS                             Number: 5255
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/27/93  2:59a
Subj: Encyclopedia                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > We have an encyclopedia called "Hendrick Encyclopedia". It's all
 > text and was created for the blind, although anyone can read it.
 > This may work, but you'll also have to review the copyright laws
 > on it as well before you post it.

It would seem to me that if the BBS only allowed one person to view the
contents of the CD at a time, copyright laws would not be broken.  As in
a book or software, you can lend it to someone to use and as long as they
are the only ones using it at any given time, you are not violating anyone's
copyright.  If the users capture the text while they are reading it on your
BBS, they would be the guilty party by having made a "copy".

The search program could be made to run online with "doorway" as long as it
doesn't do any graphics.  Drop to DOS keys or any other undesirable functions
can be locked from use with Doorway.

Ed

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From: STEVE PESANT                           Number: 5256
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 09/26/93 10:16p
Subj: CAnadian People CD-ROM dealers          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Darren!

        Lookin' for Canadian CD-ROM Dealers?
        Send a message to Vince or Michaella Sorensen at CD-ROM
WHOLESALERS...They seem very friendly and the prices are quite good too...Don't
have to worry about the Borders either..

-=Cheers=-
        Steve.


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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 5257
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 09/26/93 11:56a
Subj: OS/2 CD Wanted                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AHOJ>Thanks much. 
 DP>  
 DP> Damar Enterprises' OS2/Box goes to press this week.  
 DP> Check with Mike Shannon for 
 DP> pricing - we do not sell direct to end users. 
 DP>  
 DP> The disk features all OS/2.x files (no filling the disk 
 DP> with older 1.x stuff)  A 
 DP> grpahical user interface will help to track down files 
 DP> on this disk.  Its also 
 DP> BBS ready with multiple formats of the file 
 DP> descriptions (FILES.BBS is the 
 DP> default, but there is also SFFILES.BBS, etc.) 
 DP>  
Could you provide more details on the contents of this disk?  How full is it,
etc.?  If it is as good as the Powerbox, and Winbox CD's I can't wait.  These
two CD's are the most popular on my BBS.


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From: JOHN ROMERO                            Number: 5258
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 09/26/93 10:24p
Subj: What happen to my order?                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Vince,
      I ordered three cd's from your company 3 Weeks ago and still
haven't recieved them.  A lady took my order and told me they would be
sent that day.  I sent the money order the next day so I know your
company recieved that. I also have been trying to reach someone for some
answers by Fax and through this conference but have not yet had any
replies. All I would like is to have this problem handled in a
profressional manner. I don't like being told one thing than having to
wait a month or it looks longer to recieve my cd's. Now by the time I
recieve them they will be out dated. I was told that you had a good
company but now it will take some good service to make me believe that.
Thank You.    I hope I hear from you soon.
                                          John Romero

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 5259
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 09/26/93  4:12p
Subj: USED CD's for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi.

ED->Software toolworks illustrated encyclopedia for $25

The encyclopedia,  does it have videos in it?  And does it have recordings in
it.

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 5260
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/26/93  4:21p
Subj: Sister                                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Sorry about that last letter that I wrote,  I sent you the wrong one, actually
the program mixed two letters together somhow and you got the wrong stuff.... 
Sorry.

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From: SAI-HO CHOW                            Number: 5261
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/27/93 12:13a
Subj: buy!                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       Well, if anyone have old CD's that they don't want, I would take it in
a reasonable price.  LIke if you see your Adult Film 100 times, you might want
to get rip of it, sell it.  Or you got all the sound files you need off a CD's
sell it to me.  If you play the game and beat it, sell it to me.. or ..... or
....
                                                       Sai-Ho Chow

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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 5262
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/25/93 10:19p
Subj: Discount Disks!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Damar Enterprises has aquired a limited number of the following disks and are 
now offering these specials: 
 
Tech Arsenal CD-ROM 
     Over 630 Megs of the latest and greatest in tech-related shareware. 
     Categories include:  Programming, LANS, CAD/CAM, and HAM/Radio 
     FILES.BBS and others, provide quick BBS setup. 
                                                                 $39.95 
 
Software Studio II 
     Over 640 Megs of general shareware software!  This disk is BBS ready. 
                                                                 $29.95 
 
Digital Dreams 
     This adult oriented disk features a "run-from-the-disk" graphical user 
     interface.  BBS ready too! 
                                                                 $29.95 
 
Order any of the above disks and get the CD PowerBox v1.01 for only $5! 
(The CD PowerBox is a general shareware disk with over 650 megs of files with 
BOTH a DOS and a Windows-based Graphical User Interface) 
 
                                VISA/MC Accepted 
                              Shipping $2.90 extra 
                            Call now - 510-247-1330 
                               Damar Enterprises 
 
 
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5263
  To: THOMAS ALLRED                            Date: 09/26/93 11:58p
Subj: cd-roms wanted x-rated                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Thomas!

23 Sep 93, Thomas Allred writes to All:

 TA> i am looking to buy x-rated cd rom's any kind except male gays

 TA> please leave me a messge here of what you have and how much $

 TA> am looking to buy now


Have one Busty Babes #1, the highest bid is $150 to another owner, I will sell
mine for $125

Pat

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From: FRANK GRESH                            Number: 5264
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/26/93  6:26a
Subj: Re: Adult CD ROM's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>In a message to Gerald Ryckman <09-20-93 18:16> Frank Gresh wrote:

LN>FG>> -> I can tell you what NOT to buy...there are 2 Swimsuit disks I know
LN>FG>> -> that are ripoffs and 1 R/X-rated CD that don't worth poo-poo
LN>FG>> -> are "Lovely Ladies 2" and "Women of Venus".

LN>"Ripoffs" in what way ? How can one vary a swimsuit disc--Im curious
because
LN>have acquired the rights to the Venus '94 Pageant just held in Tampa, and
wi
LN>have this disc on the market this year--

LN>Our BB Vol II is mostly T&A too.....nothing crude...perhaps are you
disapoin
LN>that the disc was too soft for your liking--Real interested in what you
have
LN>say...

LN>Thanks a $$$,

LN>-=*>Lee<*=-

For clarification, "I didn't say that" it was a part of a thread, after
I had asked a question about adult CD's, however, I am inclined to like
more hardcore type of disks, I can see T&A everyday on the beach, or go
to a topless club and see it, I don't need to buy a CD to see it.  Since
I don't own the disk's in question, I can't say whther or not I liked or
disliked them, that was what the orginal person that replied to that
message wrote about those disks.

Frank
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From: JOHN SAYA                              Number: 5265
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/22/93  7:10p
Subj: Casio Digital Diary                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ok, here it is again:

I have a Casio Digital Computer Diary that has clock/alarm, world time/map,
memo, schedular, telecommunications/phonebook, reminder, calculator, calendar,
and even passwords to keep all of your information safe! There are more
features too, and you can even hook it up to an IBM compatible computer with
an attachment, but I don't own the attachment. It's in excellent condition,
it has the manual and stuff and it's practically hand size. It looks like a
little computer. When it was new it ran for around $150. And it still looks
new! Model SF-4300. Make an offer.

I will trade it for:

CD-ROM drive at least 350ms, and photo CD compatible
4 1megx9x80 or 70ns SIMMS
256 grey scale scanner minimum

Will negotiate any offer.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5266
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/26/93  1:58p
Subj: PREVIEWS                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Great, Mike. Thanks! BTW: I've sent you a netmail with what I think "the list"
looks like. Let me know of any changes to it; I want to keep track of where we
are.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5267
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/26/93  1:23p
Subj: Southern Beauties Once More             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Oooops! I gonna get this right YET! For all those that are interested,
Southern Beauties does indeed have 1000 unique images on it, GIFs and
TIFs combined. The TIF images are, for all practical purposes, each a
repeat of some GIF image, whether the TIF image has the exact same name
or not.

I'm only able to do file comparisons based on either name, size, or
checksum. So my last post (Erratum), was based on a name comparison
between the TIFs and the GIFs. YOU SHOULD IGNORE THAT POST! When Dave
Van Gelder (one of SB's producers) first spoke, I mistakenly thought he
was claiming that the TIFs were different images from the GIFs. NOT SO.
The TIFs images were selected from the best of the GIFs (it shows) but
only after the GIFs names had been re-sorted to be sequential.
Accordingly, some of the GIF/TIF pairs will line up name-wise, some
won't. Bottom line: It don't make a hoot! For now at least, Southern
Beauties is the slickest, prettiest adult CD out there. Dave promises
that next one will be even better. I can't wait!!

... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5268
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/26/93  2:13p
Subj: Reviews                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm s-l-o-w-l-y getting my past reviews back into electronic form. So far,
I've completed Busty Babes V.1/R.3 and Pork-Ware II. These are available for
d/l or freq from this BBS (Hard Disc Cafe - HDC) as BUSTY_R3.ZIP and
PORK_2.ZIP respectively. Additionally, there's a file called DATABASE.ZIP that
is a .WK1 formatted spreadsheet. It is a cross-reference of the GIF name
"hits" for each of the CDs in my GIF name data base. The intersection of each
row/column tells the number of GIF names that the two respective CD share. For
example, Storm-3 and FAO-GOLD share 99 GIF names between them.

The scanning of the paper copies of my past reviews is taking longer than I
imagined. As I get them done, I'll upload them to HDC and post a message to
that effect in this echo. Dan Guillory (sysop of HDC) says he'll put them in
the Text/Magazine library. He's abusy guy, too, so if you look and don't see
them there, wait a few days and try again.

There's been far more interest in my reviews than I'd ever imagined. It's very
gratifying and I sincerely thank all of those who have supported my efforts.
Cheers!

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From: PETE CRESSWELL                         Number: 5269
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 09/25/93  5:26p
Subj: OS/2 CD WANTED                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DP> Damar Enterprises' OS2/Box goes to press this week.  Check with Mike
 DP> Shannon for  pricing - we do not sell direct to end users.
 DP>
 DP> this disk.  Its also  BBS ready with multiple formats of the file
 DP> descriptions (FILES.BBS is the  default, but there is also SFFILES.BBS,

I'm looking for an OS2 BB-ready CDRom too.   Does it come with a
PCBoard directory?
 
... Food-For-Thought  Paoli, PA  215/251-9387
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From: MARK LUTZ                              Number: 5270
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/25/93 11:00a
Subj: CD-ROM 4/Sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Brand New CDR-1000 Drives $ 135.00

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From: MARK CONTRISCIANO                      Number: 5271
  To: MARK LUTZ                                Date: 09/26/93  8:17a
Subj: CD-ROM 4/Sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ML> Brand New CDR-1000 Drives $ 135.00


Mark,
  What are the specs on these drives?
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From: JOHN ENGLAND                           Number: 5272
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/25/93  7:05p
Subj: Mitsumi 300ms                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi, Pat ! I left you a message yesterday about the CD-ROM drive. I did
yaWreceive the check and I sent the CD-ROM drive via UPS on Friday. You should
get it sometime next week. Please let me know if you don't ^nget it

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From: MARK LUTZ                              Number: 5273
  To: MARK CONTRISCIANO                        Date: 09/26/93  6:19p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM 4/Sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MC>   What are the specs on these drives?
Well they are standard drives they 800ms, Data transfer rate is 150kb/s.

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From: GREG ISOKRARI                          Number: 5274
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/26/93 11:53a
Subj: Starvector Software                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike Shannon posted the price list for Starvector Software and I was wondering
if anyone had ever ordered from there???  Are they a decent place to buy from?

Also I have heard there can be a problem sending X-rated CD's to Oklahoma?  A
couple of mail order companies have told me no, but I have heard from another
person that there is????

Well Mike if you read this and there is no problem I will probably order a
couple of CD's from you....

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 5275
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/26/93  2:16p
Subj: CD's 4-Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

         Free Spirit Software  1-800-638-5757
====-=-=-=-=-=====-=-=-=-=-======-=-=-=-=-=======-=-=-=-=-=-=======-=-=-=-=-
Aircraft Encyclopedia.............$25.00
America's Premier Shareware.......$19.00
American Phone Book...............$15.00
Busty Babes Vol. 2................$29.00
Compton's Family Choice...........$29.00
Computer Reference Library........$12.00
Desert Storm with Coalion Command.$33.00          
Family Doctor.....................$23.00
Gameware Collection...............$19.00
Gif's Galore......................$14.00
Giga Games........................$19.00
GigaByte Gold.....................$29.00
Ham Radio.........................$12.00             1-800-638-5757
Holy Bible & Christian Shareware..$19.00
Jets and Props....................$19.00
Kodak Photo CD Software...........$15.00
Night Owl 8.......................$29.00
Night Owl 9.......................$25.00
Night Owl Graphics Rom............$29.00
North American Fax Book...........$25.00
North American Indians............$25.00
Original Shareware 1992...........$ 9.00
So Much ScreenWare................$15.00
So Much Shareware 3...............$19.00
Southern Beauties.................$43.00

   Any Many MANY more Titles...

    
                   1-800-638-5757

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5276
  To: ALAN H. ORNDORFF JR.                     Date: 09/25/93 10:42p
Subj: OS/2 CD Wanted                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RD> AHOJ> Does anyone know of a CD made up especially with OS/2 programs.

Alan,

We are now accepting pre-orders on what looks to be the most exciting OS/2
CD ever!  It's CD-OS2Box, and is comprised of over 300 megs. of strictly
version 2+ OS/2 shareware.  Nice packaging, graphic user interface, and
BBS-ready.  Our price is $29, and you get free shipping if you pre-order.
Should begin shipping around the first of October.

Gimme a call if you're interested!

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5277
  To: RICK DUNLAP                              Date: 09/25/93 10:42p
Subj: NEW OS/2 CD                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RD> I bought Hobbes OS2 from Mike Shannon At Starvector Software. Give
RD> him a try. In my dealings with him, he has always performed promptly
RD> and honestly. Look through the posts on this echo, he'll be there.

Glad you were satisfied with our service Rick!  As I just informed Alan,
we will be distributing a brand new OS/2 CD called OS/2Box, from Damar
Enterprises.  300+ megs of CURRENT, version 2.0+ OS/2 shareware with
complete file listings, and the BEST, I MEAN BEST user interface on the
market.  Pre-order price is $29 w/ free shipping if you're interested.
If you like Hobbes, I think you'll really like this one.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5278
  To: ROEL SARCENO                             Date: 09/25/93 10:42p
Subj: HACKER CHRONICLES                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RS>HEY MIKE!  Yeah you...MIKE SHANNON of StarVector CD-Rom Sales,  You have
this
RS>disk don't you?  Please quote Roel a price!!!!

We do indeed.  Roel:  We have them in stock at $26.  If interested, give me
a call any time.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5279
  To: DANIEL HALL                              Date: 09/25/93 10:42p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DH>Do you have any gay cd'roms avalable?

No, sorry.  I don't sell them.  Try Ron Urbassik at Goosebump Graphics.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5280
  To: DWAYNE COFFELT                           Date: 09/25/93 10:42p
Subj: Monster Cd-Rom List 1/2                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC>MS> Bible Library.................28.50
DC>MS> Bibles & Religion.............13.00

DC>Could you tell me if the files on these are compressed or can these be
DC>run from the CD ? I'm looking around for a bible CD but I don't want to
DC>have load what's on it to my HD to use it.

Most of what's on Bibles & Religion is Zipped, but the applications on
Bible Library are ready to run (after a short installation process).  Hope
this info helps.

Bye,
.\\ike

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DC>___
DC> X RM 1.2 00799 X Born Free....TAXED TO DEATH!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5281
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 09/25/93 10:42p
Subj: THANKS                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FG>Mike, just wanted to say thanks for the expedient service.  I am
FG>thoroughly enjoying the 2 CD's I purchased from STARVECTOR Software.
FG>Only problem is, now my eyes hurt.  Thanks again

Thanks for the support Frank!  Careful though . . . too much of that will
make you go TOTALLY blind!  Use these CD's in moderation my friend. <g>

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5282
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/25/93 10:42p
Subj: BB#1                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PR>Are you wanting another one? Have one I will trade for a Full Tower must
have
PR> 5= 5 1/2 out 2= 3 1/2 out and 2= 3 1/2 internal 512-939-9822

Sorry Pat, but I don't have a tower case to trade.  If I did I might
consider it though!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5283
  To: CHARLIE HEISS                            Date: 09/25/93 10:42p
Subj: Precision Mapping                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CH>  Does "Precision Mapping" cover the rural areas too, or just the
CH>  cities to the detail that you were talking about? I remember you
CH>  mentioned a road that your father and uncle had built to access
CH>  their apple orchard being shown on it.  Also, is it topo or like
CH>  a road map?  Thanks for any additionl information that you can
CH>  give me regarding this disk.

Charlie,

It covers any region which has been mapped out by surveyors, which is
99.9% of the country I would guesstimate.  No topographical data to
speak of, just stuff like major landmarks, cities, rivers, airports,
schools, etc, plus of course all the roads and highways.

I've used mine quite a bit, and it TRULY is one of the best CD applications
I have tried.

Hope that answers your questions.  (Oh, BTW - Your CD order shipped out
on 9/23.  Thanks again.)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5284
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 09/25/93 10:42p
Subj: MONSTER CD-ROM LIST 1                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN> Well to my suprise, there is NOT ONE game with a file date of 1993
RN> on the entire disc.  I decided not to call your company and make it an
RN> issue.  The disc does have alot of games on it, but no 1993 files as I

My sincere apologies - I goofed.  Please feel free to send it back in
exchange for anything else your heart desires!  Dr. Games does appear to
have a lot of files dated 1993, although they exist both in .ZIP format,
and also un-Zipped format on the CD.  Giga Games from Walnut Creek would
also be a pretty good bet.

Again, sorry for the mixup.  :(

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5285
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/25/93 10:43p
Subj: NEW CD-ROM TITLES                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
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           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #1:  NEW CD ARRIVALS   |
           |____________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

 5-STAR PREMIUM WINDOWS * Latest Windows shareware + 950 OS2 files!.....$27
>9000 SOUNDS * From weird sound effect to musical scores. BBS-Ready.....$25
 AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK 93/94 * New release. 11,000,000 businesses.$39
 ARIZONA IMAGES * Fabulous photos of the Arizona desert country.........$25
>CANADIAN SHAREWARE * Nice job by Betacorp on this new shareware CD!....$22
 COLOR MAGIC CLIPART * 600 megs. of 3-D color clipart.  Royalty-free....$27
 DINOSAURS! * Fabulous interactive, multimedia Dinosaur directory on CD.$34
 DR. MUSIC * Brand new offering loaded with sound and music files.......$20
 DR. GAMES * Hours upon hours of gameplaying mayhem! BBS-Ready..........$20
 DR. SHAREWARE * Just another shareware CD? No - this one's excellent!..$20
 DR. WINDOWS * Games, utilities, productivity, business, it's all here..$20
 FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$30
 GAMEWARE COLLECTION * Over 6000 of the all time best games! BBS-ready..$24
>GARDENING * Complete handbook for the home gardener on ROM!............$13
 GIGA GAMES * Brand new from Walnut Creek. Set up for 6 popular BBS's...$25
 KING'S QUEST VI * Newest in the KQ series. Better than 7th Guest!......$47
>LAN MASTER * High quality Networking utilities & technical notes.......$27
>LEARNING HEAVEN * Mind challenging educational games...................$23
>MAC MULTIMEDIA SPACE * A M/M space adventure for Macintosh only........$39
>MAC SHAREWARE * A great CD full of current Mac shareware for Mac only..$24
 MICROSOFT BOOKSHELF 1993 * The latest CD-ROM reference library.........$58
 MICROSOFT GOLF * Multimedia Golf game that is "on par with reality"....$58
 PHOENIX 4.0 * Finally - An update to 3! Very clean CD with fresh files.$19
 PHONEDISC USA * Summer '93 edition w/ 80 million residential listings..$69
 PINACOTHECA M/M * Multimedia presentation of classical paintings.......$24
 PRECISION MAPPING 1.5 * Newest release! Detailed street-level map......$77
>PROJECT GUTENBERG * Texts from Project Gutenberg for 1991-1993.........$22
 REEL CLIPS * 600mb of royalty-free digital video clips.................$35
 SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
 SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 * Brand new w/ pure 1993 files! The NEWEST s/w CD!.$29
 SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD * Totally new shareware w/ no dupes to Vault 2!....$25
>STRAIGHT FROM HEAVEN * Great new religious CD w/ several online Bibles.$23

                    Adult Titles (must state age 21+)
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 AMATEUR MODELS * All original images of young models. BBS-ready........$34
 DEEP THROAT * CD version of the famous adult flick. Truly a must-see!..$49
 DIGITAL DANCING * Interactive adult "game". Watch her strip for you!...$48
 DIRTY TALK * Full-color, full-motion video w/ adult film stars.........$49
 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2 * Sequel to release 1 with fresh, new images.......$29
 EXTREME DELIGHTS * Adult CD w/ a twist: Still pix with sound files!....$44
 HIGH VOLUME NUDES * 500 high-quality hardcore photos of centerfolds....$36
 KAMA SUTRA * Indian documentary adult film w/ narration................$49
 LUSCIOUS LADIES * Hot new adult .GIF CD with outstanding cover art.....$35
 MYSTIQUE OF THE ORIENT * 600mb movie featuring Oriental beauties.......$49
 PHONE SEX * Actual .WAV file recordings of 900-number conversations....$25
 PHOTO GALLERY * "Penthouse" type photos shot by J. Stephen Hicks.......$34
 SEYMORE BUTTS INTERACTIVE * Fantastic new "interactive" adult film.....$49
 SUPER SMUTWARE * A full CD of never-released GIF's, all 1024x768.......$33
 T&A 2 THE MAXX * Just what it sez - lots o' T & A......................$29
 TOTAL FANTASY * Newly released .GIF disc from Denmark..................$27
>WILD WOMEN * 2800+ GIF images of "milder" images. BBS-Ready............$35

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5286
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/25/93 10:43p
Subj: CD-ROM CLEARANCE TIME!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #4:  CD-ROM LIQUIDATION!   |
         |________________________________________________________|

            All sales are final - Sale limited to stock on hand!

                              GENERAL TITLES
                              --------------
Gigabyte Gold.......$19   Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15   House of Games......$20
World Vision 3-Pak..$39   US Wars: Korea......$29   US Wars: Des. Storm.$29
Guinness MPC/DOS....$16   Super CD 1..........$14   Guinness Disc 92....$16
Sporting News.......$22   Conan the Cimmerian.$27   Game Pack 2.........$22
Original S/W 1993...$10   Phoenix 3.0.........$10   Jedi Collection.....$39
Lion's Share........$19   Clipart Galore......$25   Reel Clips..........$35
Windoware...........$10   Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$22   Ham Radio 3.0.......$10
Top 2000 Shareware..$18   Software Vault 1....$17   Window Master.......$17
Sports Best.........$22   Hobbes OS/2 1992....$12   Sights & Sounds.....$21
K-Tracks Sound F/X..$17   Sounds for Windows..$15   7th Guest Beta Copy.$??

                     ADULT TITLES (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
Erotic Encounters 1.$29   PC-PIX 1............$25   PC-PIX 2............$25
Erotic Encounters 2.$29   Seventh Heaven......$25   Seedy 6-Pak........$119
My 1st Time side 1..$20   Physical Therapy....$20   Private Collection..$29

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5287
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/27/93  4:52p
Subj: BUSTY BABES #1 FOR SALE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Bob!

26 Sep 93, Bob Jackson writes to Pat Rickerson:

 PR>> Are you interrested inthis CD have it and ready to trade or sell
 PR>> 512-939-9822


 BJ> Well, yes and no. I don't have a 386/40 MB to trade and wouldn't pay
 BJ> what that's worth for the CD anyway. I think all the "bidding wars" over
 BJ> this thing are ridiculous. I offered Mike Shannon $50 for his copy, and
 BJ> I was stretching that a bit just 'cuz he's a friend.

Thanks for the reply.

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5288
  To: JOHN ENGLAND                             Date: 09/27/93  4:54p
Subj: Mitsumi 300ms                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello John!

25 Sep 93, John England writes to Pat Rickerson:

 JE> Hi, Pat ! I left you a message yesterday about the CD-ROM drive. I did
 JE> yaWreceive the check and I sent the CD-ROM drive via UPS on Friday. You
 JE> should get it sometime next week. Please let me know if you don't ^nget
it


Thanks, will reply when I recive it.

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5289
  To: CARL SLAWINSKI                           Date: 09/27/93  5:24p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Carl!

Haven't heard any thing yet. Did you get the money?
Will wait for a reply.

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5290
  To: BILL JONES                               Date: 09/27/93  5:24p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Bill!

Did you get the money yet? Haven't heard anything from, hope you recived it OK
please reply.

Pat

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From: PETER YOUNG                            Number: 5291
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/26/93  6:40p
Subj: cd rom stuff                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Could you please send me a catalog and dealer pricing to me on all cdrom
related hardware and software to:
Peter Young
102-3301 Douglas St.
Victoria, B.C.
Canada
V8Z 3L2
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5292
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/24/93  9:11p
Subj: CD-Rom Closeout                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Computer Works is having a closeout sale on all adult CD-Roms. 
The following discs are all for sale for $29.00 to adults only over the 
age of 21 while supplies last: 
 
***************************** $29.00 Each ****************************** 
 
101 Sex Positions Part 1 SOLD OUT       Luscious Ladies 
101 Sex Positions Part 2 SOLD OUT       My Private Collection Vol 2 
Adult Palate Volume 1                   NightWatch Interactive SOLD OUT 
Adult Reference Library                 PC-Pix Volume 2 
Animation Fantasies Vol 1               PC-Pix Volume 3 
Animation Fantasies Vol 2               Pork-Ware 1 
Asian Ladies                            Pork-Ware 2 
Busty Babes Volume 1 Rel 2              Private Pictures 
Busty Babes Volume 1 Rel 3              Seymore Butts          SOLD OUT 
Digital Dancing          SOLD OUT       Seventh Heaven 
Digital Dreams                          Southern Beauties      SOLD OUT 
Ecstasy Hot Pics Vol 1                  Stareware 
Erotic Encounters Vol 1                 Storm I 
Erotic Encounters Vol 2                 Storm II 
Hidden Obsessions        SOLD OUT       Storm III 
GBL Alternative Lifestyles              Total Fantasy Disc 1   SOLD OUT 
Hot Pix Volume 2                        Visual Fantasies 
Hot Pix Volume 3 
Hot Pix Volume 4 
Hot Pix Volume 5 
 
***************************** $29.00 Each ****************************** 
 
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales!    Download catalog1.zip for our latest 
(205) 793-4481 Voice            list of available CD-Roms & prices. 
(205) 671-0092 BBS              Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 5293
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/26/93  1:22p
Subj: cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have brand new CD's for sale that came bundled with my software, but I
already have them.
PC Karaoke 20.00
Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego 20.00
if interested, leave mail.

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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 5294
  To: STEPHEN GUPTON                           Date: 09/25/93  6:18p
Subj: Mitsumi LU005 problems                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SG>     I have encountered no problems with mine in the 6 months they have been
SG>up, perhaps you just got a bad one.

    Very possibly. The salesman I bought it from was very helpful in
    offering to take it back for repair/replacement once I got hold
    of him, instead of others at the company. Hopefully it will come
    back in better health <g>.

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 5295
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 09/27/93  7:09p
Subj: Problem W/Mitsumi                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

IA>I hope I have already solved your problem.

    Hi there! Thanks for the note. I sent the message off here before
    calling Groupware and getting ahold of you on the phone. I greatly
    appreciate your responsiveness and willingness to assist with the
    problems I've been having. Guess I was just talking to the wrong
    people before.

IA>However, there is another problem and it is not Mitsumi's fault...
IA>Some of the CDROMs had been recorded on JVC units and due to a technical
IA>difficulty with JVC unit (software & hardware), some of the disks don't
IA>meet to Orange Book specs, Mitsumi is a little bit more sensitive for the
IA>specs than some other units and it will reject this type of disk with
IA>CDR101 error.

    Thanks for the explanation. Since the CDR101 is one error message I had
    received, perhaps this was part of the problem...

IA>As you know I can only change your unit with a new one and your problems
IA>may still continue.

    Well at least a new unit will have a chance at functioning properly,
    in case the problem was something other than just "sensitivity" to
    the JVC-made disks. I appreciate your swapping the unit for me to
    try and get rid of any gremlins.

IA>After pinpointing JVC unit problem, I have got their disks re-mastered and
IA>now they have disks that can be read by Mitsumi and all others.

    By any chance, do you know if either of the disks I've had problems
    with were done on the JVC? They were "Ecstasy Hot Pics" and "Smutware".
    If you haven't contacted the makers of those two disks, you might see
    if they've used that unit...

    Once again, thank you for assisting with my problems. I will look
    forward to receiving the Mitsumi back. I went ahead and picked up a
    Toshiba for my home system while this one was gone, but am thinking
    about putting the Mitsumi in my husband's work system so he can do
    some research on the national phone book CDs for potential customers
    (were those JVC disks?).

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 5296
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/27/93  7:39p
Subj: Review of Raincoat CDs                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bob- Thanks for the reviews (although I've missed more than I've seen..).
Do you possibly have previous reviews compiled somewhere in a file that
people can obtain? I don't always read all conferences when I'm behind
on my mail, and I'd like to catch up on some of your stuff I haven't read.

- Heather
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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 5297
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 09/27/93  3:13p
Subj: CDROM FOR-SALE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Dave
 > Dave Perkovich
 > Damar Enterprises Software
 > The CD PowerBox Guys!

When will you have a new release out to update the CD WINBOX

..Red..

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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 5298
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/27/93  3:17p
Subj: BIG CD-ROM PRICE LIST 2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hi Mike

When will you have a new Win disc and send me a catalogue would you please....

Red in Nanaimo (should be in your dbase some where)

..Red..

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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 5299
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/28/93 12:54a
Subj: ASIAN LADIES WANTED                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Who can give me the best price on Asian Ladies shipped??

Ron


 * WinQwk 2.0 a#743 * America Held Hostage: Day 250 of the Socialist Takeover!


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From: JOE LOOSMORE                           Number: 5300
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/27/93  9:46p
Subj: WTB Mircosoft Works                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks, but I was looking for only the bang I need for less bucks!

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From: JOE LOOSMORE                           Number: 5301
  To: ERIC ESKAM                               Date: 09/27/93  9:47p
Subj: Wtb Mircosoft Works                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Is this for Works or Q&A?  I found a copy of Works for $25.00

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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 5302
  To: MARK GLENN                               Date: 09/27/93  4:30p
Subj: Night Owl V10                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Can I recieve the newsletter im interested in the v10 of nightowl
-> Mark Glenn

You bet Mark; I've printed off your address and will get a copy of the
newsletter out to you.

Ray
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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 5303
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/27/93  4:30p
Subj: Night Owl v9 Review                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                  Night Owl Shareware - Still the LEADER!

As most discriminating Shareware CD-ROM users and Sysops know, Night Owl
was among the very first to offer a quality disk at a fair price.  More
than four years later, Night Owl is still the pre-eminent Shareware CD leader
in the WORLD.  That is the opinion not only of N.O. customers, but of CD
reviewers in the industry.  The following quotes are excerpted (with
permission) from a review of Night Owl v9 in the Sept./Oct. 1993 issue of
CD-ROM Reporter; an independent industry publication from Centos Company,
Los Alamintos, Ca.

  "Night Owl 9 is a fully loaded CD-ROM.  This is not an economy model
   250 meg disk.  This is a full size, two ton truck of over 600 megs"

  "Night Owl 9 is also a new disk.  All the files have 1993 archive dates.
   None of the files... had a date significantly different from the
   archive date"

  "the games and entertainment category, alone, will make this CD-ROM
   a must buy."

  "includes a search engine that allows key word searches in either
   the file names or in the description, making locating files that you
   might have an interest in easier."

  "covers a wide variety of interests."

  "The number of useful and fun items included makes it an exceptional
   value."

That is what the experts say about Night Owl.  TCM Computing has had a
business relationship with Night Owl for 3 1/2 years; longer than anyone.
Version 9, Graphics v1, and the soon-to-be-released v10 were assembled at
TCM.  We are the Official Night Owl Support BBS, and an authorized dealer
and distributor.

Next time you are in the market for a top quality Shareware CD, come to the
leader: Night Owl.  And when you need a Night Owl product, come to TCM.

   Anyone interested in a reprint of the full CD-ROM Reporter review, a
   subscription, or more information, may contact Centos at:
          The Centos Co., 5024 Katella Ave., Suite 161
                  Los Alamitos, CA  90720

TCM Computing                                        (703) 439-8032
Rt. 2 Box 130                                        (703) 439-8237 FAX
Midland, Va.  22728                                  (703) 439-3060 BBS
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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 5304
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/27/93  4:31p
Subj: Night Owl 10 !!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       Night Owl's Publisher and TCM Computing proudly announce:

                   NIGHT OWL SHAREWARE CD VERSION 10

                      Available:   Oct. 1, 1993
                      Price:       $39

Here are the stats from the DIRs (using Bob Neal's CDDA/CDFDA programs):

    Percent 1993 files................................... 100%
    Percent files dated Jan-Jun '93......................  34%
    Percent files dated Jul-Sep '93 (age 3 mo. or less)..  66%  !!!!!
    Percent dupes with Night Owl 9.......................   0%
    Percent internal dupes on CD.........................   0%

           Total Meg: 647     Total Files: 5,139

Dates reported reflect actual file dates (.EXE, .COM, .OVL, etc.), not ZIP
dates.  Night Owl 10 contains the NEWEST and MOST CURRENT files available on
any CD, BAR NONE!  In fact, nearly 100 Meg. of the total files are from
Sept. '93!  Forget all the hype, just check the stats.

  ** Games ** Communications ** Utilities ** Windows 3.1 ** OS/2 **
  ** Graphics ** GIFs ** Demos ** Data Base ** Modem ** Video **
  ** DV/QEMM ** Menus/Shells ** Compression ** Virus ** Spreadsheet **
  ** Network/LAN ** Offline Mail ** Fonts ** Word Processing ** DOS **
  ** BASIC ** PASCAL ** Business/Finacne ** Unix/Linux ** MORE!!

          HOT!!!  HOTTER!!!  HOTTEST!!!  S*I*Z*Z*L*E!!!!

Night Owl's Publisher and TCM Computing have again joined forces to bring
you the very *best* Shareware CD available.  Our last two joint-efforts
(NOPV9 and Graphics v1) have received rave reviews from both our customers
and the CD-ROM industry (see the Sep/Oct 1993 issue of "CD-ROM Reporter").
Now, WE'VE DONE IT AGAIN!

File DIRs are now available to download from TCM BBS as NIGHTV10.ZIP).

As with all Night Owl CDs, v10 will be BBS ready (PCBoard DIR format).
As the Night Owl Support BBS, TCM has conversion programs available to
generate the file directories for most BBS s/w.  PLUS, the state-of-the-art
NIGHT.EXE retreival engine has had even more features adder for v10!!
This includes a mouse-driven GUI interface for both DOS and WINDOWS!

Make sure you check out Night Owl v10 before you spend your money on any
other disk; Night Owl remains the LEADER in Shareware CDs!

    ****  TCM IS NOW TAKING ORDERS FOR NIGHT OWL v10  ****

 You may place VISA/MC orders while online at TCM by typing ORDER at
 the Main Menu prompt.  Previous TCM customers and Sysops should use the
 "Previous Customer" Menu selection in order to receive your discount).
 Checks or Money Order should be sent to the address listed below.
 NO ONE WILL HAVE NIGHT OWL V10 BEFORE TCM!

 TCM Computing accepts Visa, MasterCard, Money Orders and Check.  C.O.D.
 shipments are also welcome ($4 extra).  Call TCM for all the information!

        => TCM BBS is the Official Night Owl Support Board <=

 => TCM is an authorized N.O. Distributor.  Dealers call for pricing. <=

 TCM Computing                             (703) 439-8032
 Rt. 2 Box 130                             (703) 439-8237 Fax
 Midland, Va.  22728                       (703) 439-3060 BBS
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From: THOMAS ALLRED                          Number: 5305
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/27/93  7:46a
Subj: BRAND NEW CD-ROM TITLES                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

i will take super smutware if you send c.o.d. to

thomas allred
3661 sw 60th terr apt #w
miramar fl 33023

                         i am over 21
                     tele # 305-989-1473  
 

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From: THOMAS ALLRED                          Number: 5306
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/27/93  8:00a
Subj: external cd rom drive for sale cheap    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

i have an external cd rom drive model BSR6800MX i dont have the controller
card but the drive is sold by DAK industries and it is made by MITSUMI so i
am sure one of those companies will sell the controller card i have an
internal cd rom drive and have no use fot it i will gaurantee it to work
perfectly of i will refund your money i am accepting offer's or i will trade
for the following

xxxrated adult cd rom titles (not male gay)
9600 or faster modem
nx1040 color printer
CASH
                                        thanks
                                     thomas allred


please reply here i am on every day or two to check my messages thanks  
 

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From: FRANK GRESH                            Number: 5307
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/27/93 10:12p
Subj: Re: Virtual Valerie                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>>>    I have heard of an interactive Adult CD called Virtual
BO>>>    Valerie, I guess it was profiled in Playboy or Penthouse, but
BO>>>    this is just what a friend of mine says.  Anyone with any
BO>>>    information on this CD, please drop a note here, thanks...Frank

BO>Yep, it's truely an adult cd but only available in MAC format at the
BO>moment. From what I've been told, it's in the works for a PC version,
BO>but as to it's release have no idea.

BO>Hope this helps...

BO>Boris Osadciw

Thanks Boris, do you plan on distributing it once it becomes available?
If not, does anyone else plan on distributing it that's on this
conference? All replies appreciated.

Frank
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From: FRANK GRESH                            Number: 5308
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 09/27/93 10:12p
Subj: Review of Raincoat CDs                  Refer: NONE
Read: 09/29/93  6:47p                       Private: No 

TH>-> You raise a valid point. Perhaps my reviews of adult CDs annoy more p
TH>-> this echo than those that find them useful/interesting. In the past I
TH>-> relied on the moderator to tell me if/when he thinks I'm doing someth
TH>-> wrong, should stop, or whatever. I don't really know what else to do.
TH>-> Comments, Tim?

TH>I think they're great... Keep um coming.

TH>tim
TH>moderator


Thanks Tim, and hat's off to Bob for those reviews, I appreciate them,
keep them comming.

Frank
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From: TAMI THOMPSON                          Number: 5309
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/27/93  8:31p
Subj: WANTED: OceanLife Series                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for the Ocean Life series CDROMs (Sumeria). Thanks!  -Tami

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From: HANK PETERSON 1:207/208                Number: 5310
  To: MIKE SHANNON  1:3404/101                 Date: 09/27/93  4:41p
Subj: Replacement                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike, the replacement CD Stareware, worked great. I can't figure
out why the other one PC Pix 1 just sat there and spun in my
Texel. If you ever find out why this kind of thing happens, please
let me know so I can correct it, if it is my equipment.
Anyway thanks for your great, prompt, courteous service.
I put this on this echo  because I think people should know when
a dealer does an outstanding job. I would recommend you to anyone.

Hank

... Seven eights of anything can't be seen

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5311
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/26/93 11:11a
Subj: Re:  Adult CD ROM's                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-24-93 12:17> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> When a CD is advertised as "swimsuit", I know what to expect with
BJ>> respect to subject matter - that's not an issue. What *IS* an issue
BJ>> (with any CD) are production values: technical quality of the scans;
BJ>> photographic quality of the images; front end; full 650 Mb; etc. etc.

Ahhh, OK, I understand....its just that my concern is now that I am dealing
with Bev Hills agents on these calendar collections, we are limited to 1,000
scans, not because there is not more material, but we are experiencing a high
rejection rate--For example, when we look at a sheet of slides, they are like
frame advances, and much to similiar, maybe a hand gesture difference--So when
we start with 2,000 slides, we ended up with 1,000 for BB II--

We leave for BH Oct2-4 to pick up 3,000 Venus swimsuit slides from the model
search pageant for which there will be calendar and video merchandising as well
as our CD-ROM--Then we leave for Trumps Palace Nov 11, to be photographed with
Trumps American Dream girls--And yes, there was photography of me with Miss
Venus Interantional '94, and I may put that pix on the Venus disc :)

Didn't mean to yammer on, guess I was elluding to the fact, that with 1,000
slides, the disc is not no 650MB, those that deal in license collections are
not packing disc's with 650MB, this is why we through on what would have been
PowerPak '93 on the disc as well--After we weeded thru 650 MB of shareware and
removed those ZIPS that required author approval before going on CD, well it
left us just a little--When we removed all the GIFS, well that left us down to
a tad of 200MB, so why not put it on the BB 2 disc.

Righting this message in a hurry, and it probably makes no sense--Yes, we have
SHOWOFF, and the scanning is nice--:) We took it to the pros ! BB 2 should not
fall short of the mark for what it is *1000* original slides.
We did not do any in 24 true color, they are all 640 or 800X600--Too many video
cards out there are not equipped for true color and we ran out of time to dupe
the collection in true color--Oh well....

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5312
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/26/93 11:26a
Subj: Re: Review of STAREware                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Tim Klan <09-25-93 06:41> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> If I understood Lee Noga correctly, you're referring to "So Much
BJ>> Stareware". She said that STAREware was a recent knockoff of SMS that
BJ>> was being marketed as "new". You are correct about the "hits" - my
BJ>> data base uncovered about a 98% hit ratio on names, but without
BJ>> considering who's duplicating whom.

You understood correctly, Bob !! It's one and the same disc, the difference is
that it was brought in for a pitstop, and went back out on the race track :)

I feel horrible sometimes divulging the inside skinny, but hell, the world
washes my laundry public, so what the heck :) Matter of fact I usually am the
first to tell on myself too :)-- But I can assure you the 'Fly By Nighters'
will find competing against the big boys/girls a little tougher this fall--The
industry is changing direction away from 'XXX' disc, so they tell me, and
distribution is requiring product to have alot of polish, nice packaging, and
front end engines--We are in a shake-up amongst authors, and only the good will
survive, all of us our uncertain to how the mud will settle--Bottom line is,
the consumer will benefit, because we authors are cleaning our acts up fast and
furious--You will be seeing alot of "XXX" grassroot liquidations going on via
price point blowouts--"XXX" will still be around, but more so in underground
operations--Enough to make your head spin, sometimes.

Its going to cost me $50K just to lock into the calendar name collections, not
to mention the $25K cost per production run--But, you will also see our
products in mag ads too--Handling this 180 turn has been challenging, but we
want to be a player in the publisher world, and evidently, the big name
companies think enough of us to get the job done--So, I hope I can pull this
all off, otherwise Im dead :)

Hugs from a feisty broad!,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5313
  To: JERE WESSELL                             Date: 09/26/93 11:31a
Subj: Re: XXX POLICY CHANGE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to LEE NOGA <09-24-93 01:26> JERE WESSELL wrote:

JW>>  Doesn't upset me one bit.  How about me buying you a drink at Comdex
JW>> in vegas

JW>>  Your bud in Las Vegas,

Drats, Batman, I have a scheduling conflict with the Donald Trump American
Dream Girls shoot Nov 11-18th at the Taj in Atlantic City--Had to cancel 'Vegas
(my favorite place to feed the machines)--

Hold the offer, I will be there in '94 !

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5314
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 09/26/93 11:35a
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Closeout                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>> Computer Works is having a closeout sale on all adult CD-Roms.

Curious as to whether or not I think I know why your doing this--I think I do,
and all I can say, is your smart--But T&A disc's won't hurt ya, and I see your
blowing out 'Southern Beauties'-- Overstock perhaps ?

You don't have to respond to this.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5315
  To: MARCIAL MORENO                           Date: 09/26/93 11:37a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom wholesalers and pu           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <09-23-93 18:28> Marcial Moreno wrote:

MM>>   ******************> ATTENTION CD-ROM WHOLESALERS <*****************

MM>>   please send me your CATALOG or LIST of titles to the following
MM>>   address:

Snail mail is a hassle, how about a fax number :)

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5316
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/26/93 11:50a
Subj: Re: Erratum                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <09-23-93 22:04> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> I recently received a call from Dave Van Gelder of Graphical Images
BJ>> Florida, Inc., the producers of the Southern Beauties CD.

Bob, can't say what I want to say or I will be 'Van Gelderized' as the industry
has so justly coined the phrase--Be attentive to the factoids, and ignore the
'Noids--Comprendo? (Generally, speaking not singling out any particular author)

BJ>> over the TIF files they'd looked familiar--
BJ>> The results showed that there are indeed 118
BJ>> duplicated images

In principal there is nothing to retract, in counts, perhaps you owe an
adjustment. Outside of that, keep the reviews coming whether the authors can
handle the reality knocks or not-- I rely on you to help me make a better
product, and I'm sure Mr VG appreciates the same.....I think :)

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5317
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/26/93 11:53a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES II PREORDERS!           Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

In a message to Steve Gerweck <09-19-93 22:13> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS>> Well, they're not "magazine" shots persay, as none of these photos
MS>> ever
MS>> got published in an actual magazine, but from what Lee has said, they
MS>> were
MS>> taken by the same photographers who regularly shoot for some of the
MS>> major
MS>> adult magazines.

*CORRECT* !!! Right on the $$$$$--Thanks for clarifying this for the public--

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: CATALINO ALVAREZ                       Number: 5318
  To: SAL PEDONE                               Date: 09/26/93  9:58p
Subj: Re: Wanted comptons                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi there,
Cat here.  Do you still have Comptons?  I'll give you $35 for it.
contact me as soon as possibble.  Thanx.

C. Alvarez Jr
(407) 282-8827

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5319
  To: HANK PETERSON                            Date: 09/27/93  7:58a
Subj: Industry changes                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-25-93 19:03> Hank Peterson wrote:

HP>> about the
HP>> guy who lead the way. Don't get too far out front because you
HP>> might get shot in the ass--

Could have not said it better :)--There are still so many publishers that have
no idea what they are risking, have no awareness of what will soon come down
the pike, and are to focused on the $$$$---We may have been the most sued as
far as copyright infringment goes (well, I dunno, Nightowl has had their share
too), but I will not be the example for the obscenity trafficking, subject to
prosecution from 52 states. I would love to continue in the "XXX" arena, have a
great image bank to pull from (original slides), but even they don't dare
publish a disc of this nature--They would love somebody to do it for them, and
there are no takers (at least for those of us that know what is coming down the
road)--

So, with the new company started, and Blaine ceases to give me legal problems,
perhaps my _ss will heal :)--I wish them total success in their new company,
and hope 'Southern Beauties' sells a million copies-- 
Hopefully, this last lawsuit we are pumping money into, will be the last one.
Actually, having been sued has been the best thing that ever happpend to
us--Made us re-evaluate things, gave us a chance to save other sysops, and
forced me to expand the company so that more product could be pumped out
faster--So alot of good has come out of it.

As I hear anything, which I do weekly, I will go public with it--I am not
shamed to allow the public to peek into our world too :)

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 5320
  To: GREG ISOKRARI                            Date: 09/27/93 10:10p
Subj: Re: Starvector Software                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 GI> Mike Shannon posted the price list for Starvector Software and I was
 GI> wondering if anyone had ever ordered from there???  Are they a decent
 GI> place to buy from?

I have ordered several times from them and they provide good service. The
only problem I had with them was when I was told the the
Gameware Collection 1993 had 1993 dated games on it.  To my suprise it
did not contain even one.  I never called to complain so I am not sure
what they would of said.  I decided to keep the disc as it did have alot
of games on it.  Hope this helps.  Randy


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From: MOHIT GOYAL                            Number: 5321
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/28/93 12:36a
Subj: BIG CD-ROM LIST 1/2                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

   OS/2Box (Pre-orders)..........29.00

Can you give me more information on this one?
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From: MOHIT GOYAL                            Number: 5322
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/28/93 12:36a
Subj: BIG CD-ROM LIST 2/2                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

   Street Atlas USA v2 (New!)....95.00

How new is this one?

  > Kodak Photo CD Access.........22.00

Could you give me some more information on this one?
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From: MOHIT GOYAL                            Number: 5323
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/28/93 12:36a
Subj: BRAND NEW CD-ROM TITLES                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

  > KAMA SUTRA * Indian documentary adult film w/ narration................$49

Could you give me some more information on this one?

Thanks.
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From: MOHIT GOYAL                            Number: 5324
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 09/28/93 12:36a
Subj: OS/2 CD Wanted                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DP>Damar Enterprises' OS2/Box goes to press this week.  Check with Mike Shannon
  >for
  >pricing - we do not sell direct to end users.

DP>The disk features all OS/2.x files (no filling the disk with older 1.x
stuff
  >A
  >grpahical user interface will help to track down files on this disk.  Its
al

What kind of GUI?  Just a generic one, or one based on OS/2's WPS?

...or is it a Windows GUI?

Thanks!
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From: BOB HAY                                Number: 5325
  To: GREG ISOKRARI                            Date: 09/27/93  8:29p
Subj: Starvector Software                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Greg!

Sunday September 26 1993 11:53, Greg Isokrari wrote to All:

 GI> Mike Shannon posted the price list for Starvector Software and I was
 GI> wondering if anyone had ever ordered from there???  Are they a decent
 GI> place to buy from?

Yes.  Excellent.

Bob

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 5326
  To: DANNY TSENG                              Date: 09/27/93  4:52p
Subj: OS2 Shareware                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Danny,

Answering a msg of <25 Sep 93>, from Danny Tseng to All:
I have OS/2 archive for $18 if you are interested.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 5327
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/26/93  7:49a
Subj: THANKS                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks; I like reviews that say what they mean good or bad. There's so much
stuff out there that one can't get the wheat from the chaf by them self.
Thanks agin.

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From: KEVIN KING                             Number: 5328
  To: NICHOLAS O'KRAY                          Date: 09/26/93  3:27p
Subj: RESELLER'S QUARTERLY                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I got your mailing address and will mail you out a copy of RESALE93.ZIP Thanks
for asking.  Kevin King, SysOp "My Favorite BBS" 1-916-381-2851 14.4 modem    


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From: PAUL NALEY                             Number: 5329
  To: GREG ISOKRARI                            Date: 09/27/93  5:56p
Subj: Starvector Software                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GI>Mike Shannon posted the price list for Starvector Software and I was wonderi
GI>if anyone had ever ordered from there???  Are they a decent place to buy fro

I have always been extremely satisfied with the excellent pricing and
service that I have received from Mike Shannon. Starvector Software
definately has the best pricing and customer support that I have ever
found from a Mail Order company.

If I had to rate Starvector Software they would receive four stars.

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From: PETER POWELL                           Number: 5330
  To: ROBERT NEE                               Date: 09/26/93  2:38p
Subj: CDROM Drive 4 Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have been looking for a cd rom . How old IS it . s

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 5331
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 09/23/93  9:14p
Subj: CD Wanted                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>RL>I'm looking for Wind Commander 2 on CD. The one that has all the secret
JL>  >missions and speech pack.

JL>Hi Ronald.  Send me your address, and I'll send you my catalog.

JL>Computer Works                                          Jim...
JL>CD-Rom Sales!
JL>(205) 793-4481 Voice
JL>(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders

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JL> * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)
 Jim,
        Here's my address please send me a catalog

                        Sam Figueroa
                        Sam's Software
                        Rt 2 Box 2453-A
                        Manchester,  TN 37355
Thanks!


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 5332
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 09/23/93  9:39p
Subj: Night Owl V10                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RH>-> I'll take one.........
RH>-> Leave me a message when there ready to ship and I'll send off the
RH>-> coin!

RH>Will do Ed, tho the Oct. 1 date looks pretty good right now.  Just as a
RH>little "tease", I did some stats on the DIRs before I sent them up to NY
RH>and here are some of the results:

RH>                   Dupes with Night Owl 9:           0
RH>                   Night Owl 10 internal dupes:      0
RH>                   % 1993 files                    100%
RH>                   % of files dated Jul-Sept '93    75%  !!

RH>We still have some final preparation to do so these may vary *slightly*
RH>when the disk is released, but DAMN those stats look good!

RH>btw: You should receive the TCM Newsletter in about a week with more
RH>info.....

RH>Ray
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 Ray,
        Would you please send the TCM newsletter or whatever will tell
        me as soon as NightOwl v.10 comes out and at what price! Those
        stats look great and I'm gonna jump on this disc very fast!
                                Thanks,
        Sam Figueroa
        Sam's Software
        Rt 2 Box 2453-A
        Manchester, TN 37355


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 5333
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 09/23/93  9:42p
Subj: Cd for sale.                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS>The Software Toolworks Cd Deluxe 2.

CS>Includes: TST's World Atlas, US Atlas, Reference Library and the game,
CS>The Secret of Monkey Island.

CS>$15 or make me an offer, will ship USPS 2nd day for $2.

CS>Will consider trade.

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CS>--- VFIDO 6.10.01
CS> * Origin: The Glass City (1:226/1300)
 Chris,
        I will trade you Nautilis CD.  It's full of Kodak Photo cd
        picture and multimedia clips! Also includes Video for Windows!

                                        Let me if you want to trade,
Must this run in Windows or what?

                                Thanks,
                                        Sam Figueroa


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 5334
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/23/93  9:46p
Subj: Re: Catalog                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>>>    Boris,

BO>>>     I recently asked to be put on your list and have wondered if
BO>>>     you received my request! I would like to see some of those
BO>>>     great deals you talk about sometimes. I know that I told you
BO>>>     a couple of weeks ago that I would call and place a COD order
BO>>>     but my dentist said he wanted some money for some ODD
BO>>>     reason.Hehehe....I guess pulling all of my teeth out and
BO>>>     preparing a set of dentures is a little costly, but I will
BO>>>     have some extra cash by the end of the month and would like
BO>>>     to "give" you some of it!

BO>Sorry to here you'll be eating oat meal for a few days Bill ...-:)

BO>Tell you what, knowing the pain and the expense your going thru right
BO>now, give me a call when you feel up to it and I'll give you 10% off
BO>your next order with us and if it's over $100. I'll throw in a FREE
BO>T-Shirt, ( not the one I'am wearing ) to help you easy the pain!!

BO>And if that's not enough, wait till you see the FREE BEE'S in our
BO>new catalog.

BO>How's that....????

BO>BTW: Please remind me of this message as you maybe losing your teeth,
BO>but I'am losing my memory, quess I need to get some new SIMM's installed.

BO>Boris Osadciw

BO>... Silver Xpress!...... Don't Read Mail Without it!
BO>--- FMail 0.96G
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 Boris,
        Did you ever put me on your list, I need a price on some NEW
        cd's and need em fast! NightOwl v10 and maybe a few more!
                                        Thanks,
                                                Sam Figueroa


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From: CLIFF YOUNG                            Number: 5335
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/26/93 12:15p
Subj: CD'rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If anyone can get a good price on a high quality cd-rom, I'd be very
interested, looking to buy one :)

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From: SAM BECKWITH                           Number: 5336
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/27/93  7:45p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DFW Discount Electronics       09/27/93        Orders: 800-829-0331
                                               Local : 214-254-0331
CD-ROM Price List                              BBS   : 214-259-4188

   * = Indicates file listing available for download via our BBS

Shareware      
~~~~~~~~~      
  NIGHT OWL 10 (10/93, BBS Ready, by Night Owl Publisher)   $32.00 

  NIGHT OWL BUSINESS ROM (8/93, BBS Ready, by Night Owl     $30.00 
   Publisher)                                               

  NIGHT OWL GAMES ROM (10/93, BBS Ready, by Night Owl       $22.00 
   Publisher)                                               

* NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS ROM (8/93, BBS Ready, by Night Owl     $27.00 
   Publisher)                                               

  SHAREWARE EXPLORER (9/93, BBS Ready): 4 CD combo, 1       $45.00 
   Windows CD & 3 DOS CDs.                                  

* SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 (7/93, BBS Ready, by Power User       $25.00 
   Software): 650MB, VGA Arcade Games, Home & Hobby,        
   Graphics, Clip Art, Sound Files, Finance, OS/2, Windows, 
   Fonts & much more.                                       

* SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD (9/93, BBS Ready, by American         $24.00 
   Databankers): Over 6,000 files, over 590MB, Windows & DOS
   Programs, BBS programs, and much more. Each DIR contains 
   a FILES.BBS & SFFILES.BBS. Comes with RomDoor (already   
   setup) for use with DOOR.SYS.                            

Game           
~~~~           
  KINGS QUEST V                                             $15.00 

  KINGS QUEST VI                                            $33.00 

  LOOM: LucasArts' truly unique fantasy graphic adventure,  $25.00 
   You play the role of a young weaver in the Age of the    
   Great Guilds.                                            
    DFW Discount Electronics - PO Box 177617 - Irving, TX 75017
     Prices and availability subject to change without notice
               <<< Call us for items not listed >>>

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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 5337
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/27/93  7:45p
Subj: <> CD-ROM TITLES & MORE <>              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Doug,

 > I read your message that you left on my BBS and then somehow missed
 > getting back to it to get it logged in the order system.  Your order
 > will be on it's way tommorrow 9/25 by express mail with a reduction in
 > the CD prices due to the delay.

          You just saveed yourself from a FLAME!  I had prepared a GREAT one
here, several screens long.  Glad I didn't have to send it and I look forward
to the order.  Thanks.


                                                   Cheers,

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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 5338
  To: GREG ISOKRARI                            Date: 09/27/93  6:40p
Subj: Starvector Software                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 GI> Mike Shannon posted the price list for Starvector Software and I was
 GI> wondering if anyone had ever ordered from there???  Are they a decent
 GI> place to buy from?
 I don't know if Mike is running a "decent place" or not but, I have
 ordered CDs on numerous occasions from him and will continue to do so.

 GI> Also I have heard there can be a problem sending X-rated CD's to
 GI> Oklahoma?  A couple of mail order companies have told me no, but I
 GI> have heard from another person that there is????
 As I live the the metro New Orleans area, we don't have those kinds of
 concerns down here.  The only problem I have heard about is a fellow in
 the state of Oklahoma who had XXX rated CD files available on his BBS.
 I am sure there is more to the story that than so keep an eye on the mail
 in this area and I am sure that someone will be kind enought to keep up
 updated.  How is it different than ordering or mailing XXX Video Tapes?

 GI> Well Mike if you read this and there is no problem I will probably
 GI> order a couple of CD's from you....
 Well Mike won't steer you wrong.
 Also there is another very good dealer out of Ohio who is every bit as
 good and reasonable, Boris Osadciw.  Keep him in mind too, as there is
 uaually a bit of competetion between these two war horses.  Either of
 which I would recommend to anyone.  Both of these fellows post weekly
 CDRom listings, specials and other goodies.  Both have an 800 order line
 and take most major credit cards, IF YOU ARE of the proper age and can
 prove same to their satisfaction.  Good viewing.

 p.s. there are also several other dealers who advertise in this echo and
 appear to have excellent prices.  I haven't conducted any business with
 these folks as of yet but you may want to give them a look see.  No
 recommendation on any of these others but advising that they do exist.

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From: KIRK REEVES                            Number: 5339
  To: GREG ISOKRARI                            Date: 09/27/93  9:17p
Subj: Starvector Software                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 GI> Mike Shannon posted the price list for Starvector 
 GI> Software and I was wondering if anyone had ever ordered 
 GI> from there???  Are they a decent place to buy from?

Yes.  I brought three disks, Asian Ladies, Mystique of The Orient and 
7th Guest from Mike recently and am very happy.  I was shooping around 
and Mike offered me the best price.  I have also seen message from other
satisified customer on this net.  All I can say I will be buying more. 
At least a $1,000 dollars worth before the end of the year.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5340
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 09/27/93 11:18p
Subj: BBSCON                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF> * SLMR 2.1a * Australia: where men are men and sheep are nervous....

Oh man . . . had me ROFL for 5 minutes!!  Had to steal it, but since
many of my customers are fine, upstanding Australians, I felt it wise to
alter it slightly.  (See below)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5341
  To: PETE CRESSWELL                           Date: 09/27/93 11:18p
Subj: OS2 CDROM                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PC>Looking for an OS2-oriented CDRom to put up on a bulletin board.
PC>Anybody got any suggestions?

Pete,

If you can wait a few more days, OS/2Box is your best bet.  Around 325
megs of ONLY version 2 files, with accurate file listings for BBS use.
Now taking preorders at $29 w/ free shipping, or you can order after it
comes out (around 1st of October) and pay $4 shipping.  Either way, this
new CD will be the most current OS/2 disc, bar none!

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5342
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/27/93 11:18p
Subj: STREET ATLAS 2 IS HERE!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |  Title:  STREET ATLAS v 2.0   |  |   Price:  $95   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

     The best-selling computer mapping package has just been updated!
     You probably know about the proven quality of Street Atlas by now,
     but let's face it - version 1 is two years old!  In that time, lots
     of changes have taken place, and you need version 2 for the absolute
     highest level of mapping accuracy!

     Street Atlas version 2 is a complete street map of the entire
     country on a single CD-ROM!  You can zoom in on every city, town, or
     rural area in the country - right down to the smallest backroads.
     The database gives you instant access to more than 12 million street
     segments and more than 1 million lakes, ponds, rivers, parks, rail-
     roads, and more!

     * Search by ZIPcode, place name, or phone number.
     * Print maps at a variety of different scales, instantly!
     * Zoom in and out with ease.
     * Search block ranges in metropolitan areas.
     * Customize the overview map.
     * Seamless, full-color maps are easy to read.
     * New, faster map generation system produces maps extremely fast!
     * Thousand of new streets that didn't exist two years ago.
     * Trip planning functions.
     * Customizable user interface.

     Requirements: 386 CPU or higher, 2MB RAM, 3MB hard drive space,
                   CD-ROM drive, VGA graphics, mouse, Windows 3.1,
                   DOS 4.01+

                >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5343
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/27/93 11:18p
Subj: PRE-ORDER OS/2Box!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

           ______________________________________________________
          |                                                      |
          |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #3:  CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS   |
          |______________________________________________________|

            We are now taking pre-orders on the following title.
             - Cards are not processed until date of shipment -
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |      Title:  CD OS/2BOX       |  |   Price:  $29   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

                       - DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE -

     You all know about the great track record of Damar's previous
     releases:  CD-Winbox and CD-Powerbox.  Well, get ready OS/2 users,
     because the BEST and most RECENT OS/2 shareware CD is almost here!
     The demand will be high so get your name on our list if you want
     to be among the first to try out this brand new title!

     * Slick, mouse-driven graphic user interface for OS/2
     * Consists of 100% OS/2 2.0+ shareware applications. No old version
       1.x files
     * Fully BBS-ready
     * 300+mb total
     * To begin shipping around 1st week in October
     * FREE shipping on all preorders

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5344
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/28/93  8:01a
Subj: BB#1                                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hello Mike!

25 Sep 93, Mike Shannon writes to Pat Rickerson:

 PR>> Are you wanting another one? Have one I will trade for a Full Tower must
 PR>> have 5= 5 1/2 out 2= 3 1/2 out and 2= 3 1/2 internal 512-939-9822

 MS> Sorry Pat, but I don't have a tower case to trade.  If I did I might
 MS> consider it though!

Thanks anyway.
Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5345
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/28/93  8:21a
Subj: CD's\For Sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

Microsoft Small Business Consultant & Micresoft Stat Pack
Microsoft Bookshelf Dos Version
These two cd's aren't doing me any good but thought maybe some one may want to
trade me for them, will sell them if you perfer.
512-939-9822

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5346
  To: BILL JONES                               Date: 09/28/93  6:49p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Bill!

I got the cd's in the mail today, thanks for a quick turn around. If you have
any more just let me know, like doing business with someone I can trust!

Pat

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From: JEFF NEWMAN                            Number: 5347
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/28/93  7:57p
Subj: Re: Review of Raincoat CDs              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BJ> Thanks for the kind words of encouragement, Jeff. As for
 BJ> "spares", did you mean adult CDs or any CDs?

 Bob, I am an open minded individual and will take whatever you have
 that you do not want. :-)

-Jeff NOPCCCC

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From: KD4QZZ HARRY                           Number: 5348
  To: MARTIN BELCKE                            Date: 09/26/93  4:21a
Subj: HACKERS WORLD MONSTER-I                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>               YOU NEED HACKERS WORLD
MB>                    MONSTER-I CD

Rather than a list of what's not on this CD, could you provide a short
list of some of the things on it?


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From: TIGER MOSES                            Number: 5349
  To: SYSOPS                                   Date: 09/28/93 10:04a
Subj: Roms                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello fellow sysops, looking for opinions.
On these nice BBS ready cdroms we're buyign here, how are you allowing access? 
Are you setting up the dirs on your software or using programs like ROMDOOR? 
Who's done both and has a strong opinion?
* SPITFIRE v3.3
* Database Connections BBS * Supporting dBASE, Clipper, and More!
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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 5350
  To: GREG ISOKRARI                            Date: 09/27/93  3:58p
Subj: Starvector Software                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Greg!

Sunday September 26 1993 11:53, Greg Isokrari wrote to All:

 GI> Mike Shannon posted the price list for Starvector Software and I was
 GI> wondering if anyone had ever ordered from there???  Are they a decent
 GI> place to buy from?

I give Mike at Starvector the HIGHEST of recommendations.  He knows his
products, delivers on time and has the BEST prices around!  :-)

You won't go wrong by ordering from Starvector.  You need to watch out for
crooks in this industry (I shouldn't mention names like "GroupWare," but you
get my drift).


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5351
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 09/26/93 12:01p
Subj: Damar Enterprises                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DP>Last count was over 300 megs of 2.x related software.  We could fill the 
  >sucker with lots of 1.x stuff - which would satisfy those users 
  >looking for a disk with not much less than 600 megs.  Interesting 
  >trade off eh?  <G>  Bottom line is we decided from a marketing 
  >standpoint, to only go after the latest 2.x-supported software, 
  >being better than trying to pull a fast one on the user and claim 
  >the disk had over 600 megs (with almost half being useless drivers, 
  >patches, etc.) 
 
I understand and agree with your viewpoint, Dave.  I have no desire to 
collect 600 megs worth of useless files.  You made the right decision. 
So long as the buyer understands this up front, there is no problem. 
I haven't sold many Monster Media 1993 discs because it only contains 
about 420 megs of files dated from Jan through April 1993.  It is a nice 
collection, but the competition is too stiff to buy a partially full 
CD-Rom of shareware.  However, the market is not exactly flooded with 
OS/2 discs, so you will probably be alright. 
 
I would like some dealer info from you if possible.  It sounds like you 
are on the right track.  Thanks. 
 
Computer Works           Rt 3 Box 794-B                    Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales!            Ashford, AL 36312 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
 
 
 
 
Lots of the software on the disk will run under 1.x 
  >- such as games, utils, etc. - but we held off on stuff SPECIFICALLY 
  >written for the 1.x release level. Hope this helps - perhaps your 
  >users will agree between 300-400 megs of useable software is better 
  >than a disk full of "junk."  In the next few days I'll be releasing 
  >a directory structure here in the echo for everyone to see what 
  >categories the disk is broken into... 
 
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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 5352
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/24/93  8:27a
Subj: Re: Review of Raincoat CDs              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bob -

22 Sep 93, Bob Jackson writes to Gary Gilmore:

   BJ> You raise a valid point. Perhaps my reviews of adult CDs annoy
   BJ> more people on this echo than those that find them useful
   BJ> or interesting.  In the past I've relied on the moderator to
   BJ> tell me if/when he thinks I'm doing something wrong, should stop,
   BJ> or whatever. I don't really know what else to do. Comments, Tim?

Obviously, I am not Tim.  However, please accept a few comments from the
peanut gallery.....

(1)  ALL reviews are, IMHO, most welcome.

(2)  It would be much appreciated if someone would grab the reins and
     review the NON-XXX discs as well.  Shareware and commercial releases
     are abundant, but we have no data for comparison before purchase.

(3)  Since Bob Hall does not allow discussion of adult material in
     the CDROM echo, then this is the only place left - until someone
     starts an "ADULT ENTERTAINMENT" echo.  This would be MY choice.

(4)  This echo really ought to be for the buying/selling of CD-ROMs,
     as the echo name suggests, however it should also carry messages
     pertinent to the selection of CD-ROMs for purchase.

(5)  Regardless of the subject matter of the discs that you review, you
     have set up a fine system.  Separating the technical from the content
     and posting the information in separate messages makes it very easy
     to locate exactly the data I need to make an informed purchase or
     a meaningful recommendation to a client.

                                                  - Arnie :+}

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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 5353
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/24/93  8:47a
Subj: SHAREWARE ONLINE #2                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike -

   MS>  Shareware Online #2 now available

   MS>  * All files dated 1/93 to 8/93.

Thanks for including the "average file size" in your list.  It helps
give us a better idea of what's on the disc.

   MS>  \MUSIC      184    33,523,012     182,190

Do you have the file list available for download?  I'm curious to see
what has been included in this category.  Midi?  G/M?  Sound Blaster?

From the average file size, I would assume that there are many ".VOC"
or ".WAV" files in this grouping.  There is litigation pending that
strives to make it a violation of copyright to distribute the majority
of these files, which contain digital copies of copyrighted material
(either voice or musical excerpts from TV, records, or film).

   MS>  \TRUETYPE   277    15,218,836      54,942

Is the producer of this disc telling us that 277 new TrueType fonts
have been released this year?  I have found that most "new" fonts are
conversions from 1988-89 ATM fonts.  Again, a file requestable list
would help.

Unfortunately, the archive file dates on most shareware discs do not
accurately reflect the dates of the files within.  I have not seen a
single shareware disc (including my three or four favorites - which
I highly recommend to all my clients) that have accurate dates.

   MS>  600mb SHAREWARE CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE

Just curious - which disc is this?

                                                  - Arnie :+}

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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 5354
  To: GREG ISOKRARI                            Date: 09/28/93  7:59p
Subj: Starvector Software                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Mike Shannon posted the price list for Starvector
 > Software and I was wondering if anyone had ever
 > ordered from there???  Are they a decent place to buy
 > from?

I have bought from "MIKE" in the past and found him a good
honest dealer...I live in Canada and am looking for another Disc from him....

..Red..

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 5355
  To: JOHN ROMERO                              Date: 09/27/93 12:20p
Subj: TIME ZONES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->Date: 09-25-93 (03:40)
->From: JOHN ROMERO

->I would just like to know why my order is taking so long? I sent the
->money to you three weeks ago and I haven't heard from you since. I
->think you want to be known for having slow or bad service.
->Thank you!

Hello, John.

    It hasn't even been three weeks since you sent you letter, much
less since we received it! It was postmarked the 9th, and by the
time we received it, the special "while stocks last" that you ordered
was out of stock. Normally at that point, we call and notify
our customers as to what is happening. We did not, however, have your
phone number yet. We re-ordered more, and when they arrived
today, we not only sent them to you FedEx, entirely at our expense,
we also sent you two more excellent CD-ROMs absolutely free with our
apologies. I don't think we could have done anything else to
alleviate the problem. Since we asked you for your phone number,
we have received one phone call telling us what that was, two
flames in this echo, and five phone calls from your number that
consisted of a hang-up when we said "Hello?" - one of them at
3AM in the morning at our home!
   We try our best to keep our customers happy. Of course we don't
want to be described in such a way that simply is not true - just as
U.S. CD-ROM distributors can't help a minimum two-week turnaround when
the post-office delivers a Canadian customer's order to them 10 days
after it is mailed, we can't control what we can't control. We
*recommend* that our U.S. customers call us using credit cards, and
spend the little extra to use a courier service, but we will take
orders however they arrive, and send them however the customer wishes
they be sent. We even will have them shipped directly from within
the U.S. if necessary. We do not cash cheques until orders have been
sent, and we don't charge credit cards until the 1st of the following
month. Shipments to Canadians now automatically include 2 day or less
service, with insurance and package tracking. If anyone has any
any problem with any of their purchases, we'll help. I believe these
are positive *good* service points.

    Vince
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From: JOHN ROMERO                            Number: 5356
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/28/93  9:38p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike,
     I'm afraid I made a mistake by not giving you my business first.
I tried Michellea Sorensen from Canada but as of right now they have
taken my money and sent nothing.  They won't even reply to my questions
about my order.
    So what I need from you is a Catalog of all your CD's available with
all the specials you offer. I'm mostly interested in adult and Shareware
CD's.  I also would like a catalog on whatever else you have to sell.
It looks to me that you really try to satisfy your customers and also
have very quick Service. That's very important.

I will be looking foward to your catalog and doing alot of business with
you.

John Romero
2071 Waverly Circle
Henderson, NV. 89014
                                  Thank You

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5357
  To: DAVE BAKKER                              Date: 09/29/93 12:34a
Subj: Re: PANASONIC CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    ( 09-22-93 ) Boris Osadciw wrote to All about PANASONIC CD

BO>>))))))))))))))))))  P A N A S O N I C  5 6 2  ((((((((((((((((((((
BO>>   The ALL NEW Panosonic 562 is here and ready for delievery!!
BO>>           340ms access time / 300kps transfer rate
BO>>         Multi-Spin / SB Compatiable / with Interface
BO>>           Complete Ready To Run - Price - $249.00
BO>>                 FREE C.C.I T-Shirt With Order
BO>>               500+ CDROM Tiltes To Select From
BO>>
BO>>              ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517
BO>>          TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759

>>    A couple of questions,

>>    1.  Do you have an external one?

Not available in external at this time.

>>    2.  I have the old sound blaster, the plain one not the pro,
>>    will this     work with the cd rom drive?

Yep, it sure will !! In fact, we sell a bundle version with the SB
as part of the package.

>>    3.  could I play normal music cd's on this ?

Yes you can as well as Photo cd's !!

>>    4.  I'm from canada, where are you located? Because I want to
>>    know the     canadien price for this.

We're in the US and as far as I've heard from several Canadian customers,
the price is somewhere around $400. plus your local tax's.

If there is anything else you need help with, drop us a line via the
fido address below and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5358
  To: ED MARQUIS                               Date: 09/29/93  1:50a
Subj: Re: Encyclopedia                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >> We have an encyclopedia called "Hendrick Encyclopedia". It's all
 >> text and was created for the blind, although anyone can read it.
 >> This may work, but you'll also have to review the copyright laws
 >> on it as well before you post it.

>>    It would seem to me that if the BBS only allowed one person to
>>    view the contents of the CD at a time, copyright laws would
>>    not be broken.  As in a book or software, you can lend it to
>>    someone to use and as long as they are the only ones using it
>>    at any given time, you are not violating anyone's copyright.
>>    If the users capture the text while they are reading it on
>>    your BBS, they would be the guilty party by having made a
>>    "copy".

>>    The search program could be made to run online with "doorway"
>>    as long as it doesn't do any graphics.  Drop to DOS keys or
>>    any other undesirable functions can be locked from use with
>>    Doorway.

Good point Ed, but since I'am not an attorney...yet.... I wouldn't
recommend any sysop to post any copyright products on thier system.

My only suggestion would be, as the phone company would say,
"Call before you dig" could save a lot of headachs.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: DAN GUILLORY                           Number: 5359
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/28/93  4:59p
Subj: CDROM Reviews                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The following files are available for FREQ (File Request) by any FidoNet
system in the current nodelist.  If you are not a sysop then you can call in
and download them using the login "CD_REVIEW" or "CD REVIEW" (No Password).

BBS Name : Hard Disc Cafe
FidoNet  : 1:106/30
Phone    : (713) 589-2690
Baud     : 2400-14400 (V.32bis and HST)
Login    : CD_REVIEW or CD REVIEW (NO PASSWORD)

The following list of CD reviews is currently available...

BUSTY_R3.ZIP CD-ROM review by Bob Jackson - Busty Babes Vol. 1  Rel.3
D_DREAMS.ZIP CD-ROM review by Bob Jackson - Digital Dreams
EROTIC_2.ZIP CD-ROM review by Bob Jackson - Erotic Encounters 2
PGG1.ZIP     CD-ROM review by Bob Jackson - PGG1
PORK_1.ZIP   CD-ROM review by Bob Jackson - Pork-Ware 1
PORK_2.ZIP   CD-ROM review by Bob Jackson - Pork-Ware II
S_BEAUTY.ZIP CD-ROM review by Bob Jackson - Southern Beauties
STARE.ZIP    CD-ROM review by Bob Jackson - STAREware
TA_MAXX.ZIP  CD-ROM review by Bob Jackson - T&A to the MAXX
VIVID_1.ZIP  CD-ROM review by Bob Jackson - Girls of Vivid - Volume 1
DATABASE.ZIP LOTUS 1-2-3 S/S (WK1) of GIF name cross-reference

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From: DAN GUILLORY                           Number: 5360
  To: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN                        Date: 09/28/93  6:18p
Subj: Review of STAREware                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Quoted from Chris Christensen to Bob Jackson
cc> Excellent! I would freq them if the sysop would put them up.
cc> If not I would send some disks to you for copies. Appreciate
cc> your efforts in the reviews and the extra work to convert
cc> them.

They are available right now... Freq away!

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From: HANK PETERSON                          Number: 5361
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/28/93 12:34p
Subj: Industry changes                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (27 Sep 93) Lee Noga wrote to Hank Peterson...
 LN> There are still so many publishers that have no idea what they are 
 LN> risking, have no awareness of what will soon come down the pike, and 
 LN> are to focused on the $$$$---We may have been the most sued as far 
 LN> as copyright infringment goes (well, I dunno, Nightowl has had their 
 LN> share too), but I will not be the example for the obscenity trafficking,
subject to prosecution from 52
 LN> states. I would love to continue in the "XXX" arena, have a great
 LN> image bank to pull from (original slides), but even they don't dare
 LN> publish a disc of this nature--They would love somebody to do it for
 LN> them, and there are no takers (at least for those of us that know what
 LN> is coming down the road)--

    I worked in Hollywood for many years and have seen the business end of
    the entertainment industry wringing its hands every day. It is like 
    walking through a mine field. If an attorney gives wrong advice, you 
    are dead and the attorney is gone on to bigger and better things.  
    I laugh at everybodys idea of the adult movie business too. It is a 
    lot of work!!!! Oh no! there aren't going to make us shoot that scene 
    again because the lighting wasn't quiet right or a couple of props
    were in the wrong place. I know most would say " thats unbelievable"
    buts if you haven't been there, you just don't know.Most guys would 
    give anything to be in it for one day because they see the end product, 
    but as you know, this is far far from what actually happens in a days 
    shooting.  I admire you for your business sense. Anybody can open a 
    business but to keep it going through the legal maze of government 
    regulations and local bureaucratic ordinances is got to be a miricle. 
    The only people who make out are law enforcement and attorneys of the 
    world. A few days ago, a bank robbery occurred. Down the street in a 
    massage shop ,was a vice cop getting his you know what relaxed, then 
    he took the technician to jail. If that cop had been on the street, 
    maybe four people wouldn't have got hurt. I think we have our priorities
    mixed up.

... What couple invented the first kiss...and lets give them a hand

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From: PHIL LOSACCO                           Number: 5362
  To: GREG ISOKRARI                            Date: 09/28/93 10:12a
Subj: Re: Starvector Software                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

26 Sep 93  11:53:33 All "Quoted" Greg Isokrari This Response :
From a message "PAST", and then it "BEGAN"

GI> @MSGID: 1:147/5 2ca5d2ec
GI> @PID: Telegard 2.7
GI> Mike Shannon posted the price list for Starvector Software and I
GI> was wondering if anyone had ever ordered from there???  Are they
GI> a decent place to buy from?
GI>

     Greg, Starvector is a very reliable place and dependable. I have done
     business with them for years going back to when they started, selling
     shareware packs on floppie. I have alwasy been very satisfied with their
     product and fast friendly service.


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5363
  To: KEVIN KING                               Date: 09/27/93  5:22p
Subj: LOOKING FOR CD-ROM JUKE BOX             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 KK> Thanks Doug for the information regarding the Pioneer DRM600A Cd-Rom 
 KK> 6 disk changer. Do you sell also to dealers? If so 
 KK> I will put you on my list for dealers to contact 
 KK> you.  If you have a price list or product catalog, 
 
Occasionally.  
 KK> 24hrs, 14.4 modem. for more information on our 
 KK> service call and down load RESALE93.ZIP or reply to 
 KK> this message with your mailing address and I'll 
 KK> mail you a copy. 
 
Send to PCJ Computing, 323 TN Nursery Rd., Cleveland, TN  37311.  Thanks and
will get a list to you as well.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5364
  To: KEITH LOONEY                             Date: 09/27/93  5:24p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes vol.1 #1                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 KL> I'll bid $40 for busty babes.

 KL> --- MEBBSNet 0.127
 
Will keep that in mind.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5365
  To: TOM HUNT                                 Date: 09/27/93  5:25p
Subj: Re: cdrom discs 1 of 2                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TH> What is on the AMsoft (Ham) is it an Amiga cdrom of HAM pictures


It's a collection of Ham Radio shareware....

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5366
  To: KEN BASQUE                               Date: 09/27/93  5:25p
Subj: <> cd-rom titles & more <               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 KB> A while ago I saw ads for Ultima I-VI CD games.  Do 
 KB> you still have these?  If so how much?  Thanks
 KB> ===
 KB>  * SLMR 2.1a * Unable to locate Coffee -- Operator Halted!
 
Not anymore.  Just the Wing Commander and Ultima 6 for the lower pricing....

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5367
  To: MIKE BOLDEN                              Date: 09/27/93  5:26p
Subj: CDROM DISCS 2 OF 2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MB> Doug,

 MB> How do we buy this stuff???

 MB> Mike

Call us at 800-547-7817 to order by credit card....or we can do some other
method....

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5368
  To: VINCENT TESTA                            Date: 09/27/93  5:28p
Subj: nightowl 10                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 VT> Hi'ya All ...

 VT> Is nightowl 10 released yet or ?
 VT> Thanks

 VT> Vincent

 VT> ... May the warheads all Rust in Peace.
 
It's supposed to be out mid-October....we'll have rock bottom pricing on it
like Boris has said also <g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5369
  To: CHRIS WISE                               Date: 09/27/93  5:30p
Subj: business phone book wante               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CW> Looking for a business phone book, would like to have the newest one,
 CW> but 1992 will be accepted.  Let me know prices and avail.

 CW> Lee Christopher Wise
 
3 choices for ya....American Business Phone Book 1992 for $14 or American
Business Phone Book 1993 for $22.95 or Prophone Business Phone Book for
22.95.....800-547-7817 to order....PCJ Computing.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5370
  To: THOMAS ALLRED                            Date: 09/27/93  5:45p
Subj: cd-roms wanted x-rated                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TA> i am looking to buy x-rated cd rom's any kind except male gays

 TA> please leave me a messge here of what you have and how much $

 TA> am looking to buy now

             ************************************************
              PCJ ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST - Last update: 9/06
             ************************************************
             Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)  ** BBS Ready
             Orders - 800-547-7817 / Inquiries - 615-339-0235
 
 101 POSITIONS 1..(Professionally produced educational movies)...39.95
 101 POSITIONS 2..(Professionally produced educational movies)...39.95
 ADULT PALATE..(Stills from films-Hi-Rez-Windows)................29.95
 ADULT REFERENCE LIBRARY..(500 MB-2500 Gifs-Fetishes Galore).....23.95
 AFTER DARK Trilogy..(Movie shorts-video for windows included)...43.95
 ALL BEAUTIES..(Swimsuit to adult-600 meg-SVGA/Animations).......29.95
 AMATEUR MODELS..(500+ centerfold pics-All SVGA or 24 bit **)....33.95
 AMERICAN GIRLS..(High quality models/centerfolds by S. Hicks)...34.95
 ANIMATION FANTASIES I..(105 animations/moving pics).............28.95
 ANIMATION FANTASIES II..(105 animations/moving pics)............28.95
 ASIAN LADIES..(660 mb-oriental x-rated pics **).................31.95
 BEST of VIVID Clips..(Movie clips using T.M.M. technology)......39.95
 BUSTY BABES..(Gifs-800+ celebrities-amateur **).................26.95
 DEEP THROAT..(The original classic-Windows).....................42.95
 DIGITAL DANCING..(Interactive strip game).......................48.95
 DIGITAL DREAMS..(All R-SVGA-660+ mb **).........................26.95
 DIRTY TALK..(Movie-38 minutes-4 ladies).........................44.95
 DOORS of PASSION..(Interactive movie-hidden doors)..............46.95
 ECSTASY Hot Pics I..(560 mb-330 anims-470 stories-2600 gifs **).26.95
 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 1..(710 mb-4300+ gifs/viewers)................34.95
 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2..(like version 1)...........................34.95
 EXTREME DELIGHT.................................................44.95
 FOR ADULTS ONLY 2..(680+ mb-VGA/SVGA gifs-anims-games-text **)..36.95
 GBL..(Gay/Bi/Lez-400+ hard to find alternate lifesytle pics)....36.95
 GIFFY GOLD..(All R-Giffy girls-San Diego models **).............34.95
 GIRLS of VIVID 1..(500+ hand picked slides).....................39.95
 GIRLS OF VIVID 2..(500+ hand picked slides-no dupes with 1).....39.95
 HIDDEN OBSESSIONS..(Fractal compression movie-runs from DOS)....47.95
 HIGH VOLUME NUDES..(500+ great photos)..........................38.95
 HOT HUNKS..(All males)..........................................38.95
 HOUSE of SLEEPING BEAUTIES..(Adult Movies)......................46.95
 ISLAND GIRLS..(Vga gifs-swimsuits/nudes-Hawaii).................44.95
 KAMA SUTRA..(Movie clips using T.M.M. technology)...............44.95
 LEGENDS OF PORN..(Quicktime movies of the stars)................44.95
 LOCAL GIRLS..(Vga gifs-swimsuits/nudes-Hawaii)..................44.95
 LUSCIOUS LADIES.................................................34.95
 MANPOWER..(All gay-1600 gifs-SVGA-no install needed **).........34.95
 MOVING FANTASIES..(200 adult movie shorts-GL/FLI)...............25.95
 MY FIRST TIME..(80 Minutes-2 discs-movie).......................36.95
 MY PRIVATE COLLECTION I.(675 mb-SVGA gifs **)...................32.95
 MY PRIVATE COLLECTION II.(650 mb-SVGA gifs-no dupes with v1 **).32.95
 MYSTIQUE of the ORIENT..(600 meg-movies)........................44.95
 NEW WAVE HOOKERS..(Movie featuring Ginger Lynn).................44.95
 NIGHT WATCH (Interactive full-length movie).....................47.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 2..(530 mb-scans/amusements **).................25.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 3..(630 mb **)..................................25.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 4..(Best of Windy City scans **)................25.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 5..(**).........................................25.95
 PC-PIX 1..(600+ mb gifs **).....................................29.95
 PC-PIX 2..(630+ mb gifs-no dupes with v1 **)....................29.95
 PC-PIX 3..(660+ mb gifs-no dupes with v1 or v2 **)..............29.95
 PHOTO GALLERY..(R-rated-best of Penthouse shoot-Steve Hicks)....36.95
 PHONE SEX..(500 meg-erotic conversations-8/16 bit Sterso-Wav)...24.95
 PHYSICAL THERAPY..(Replacement for XXX Extreme).................21.95
 PORKWARE 1..(2024 gifs-37 targa files-660 mb)...................31.95
 PORKWARE 2..(3308 gifs-135 movies-648 mb).......................31.95
 PRIVATE PICTURES 1..(600 images-70 mini-movies).................35.95
 RIMFIRE PACIFIC..(Best of adult movie clips)....................44.95
 SEEDY Rom #1....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #2....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #3....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #4....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #5....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #6....................................................24.95
 SEEDY ROM 6-Pak..(29,000+ files-no dupes-gifs/anims/text)......128.95
 SEEDY ROM 7th Heaven..(2900+ gifs)..............................30.95
 SEEDY ROM MOVIE Disc..(Best of amateur/profsnl-60+ minutes).....38.95
 SEYMORE BUTTS (Interactive movie disc-100+ minutes-Windows).....47.95
 SMUTWARE..(640+ mb-1000 SVGA gifs-2000 VGA gifs-100 anims **)...26.95
 SO MUCH STAREWARE..(579 mb-2600 gifs-text-200 anims-sound **)...31.95
 SOUTHERN BEAUTIES..(1000+ gifs-all new-SVGA from slides)........29.95
 STORM I..(700+ mb-5268 VGA gifs-87 anims-574 stories **)........22.95
 STORM II..(656+ mb-VGA/SVGA gifs-slide shows **)................22.95
 STORM III..(3000+ stills-half gay **)...........................22.95
 STORM 3-Pak..(ALL 3 CDs)........................................67.95
 TOTAL FANTASY 1..(From Denmark-3750+ gifs-220+ animations **)...27.95
 VISUAL FANTASIES..(600+ mb-2600+ gifs)..........................34.95
 WICKED-X..(Movies using Kodak Photo CD technology-included).....49.95
 VOLCANO..(400 VGA-900 SVGA R-rated gifs)........................32.95
 XXX-XTreme..(Best of overseas scans/automations)................29.95

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5371
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 09/27/93  5:50p
Subj: Re: Catalog                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SF>  Boris,
 SF>         Did you ever put me on your list, I need a price on some NEW
 SF>         cd's and need em fast! NightOwl v10 and maybe a few more!
 SF>                                         Thanks,
 SF>                                                 Sam Figueroa

Have you got a fax?  I'm not far from ya and have a lot of the new CDS and can
get them there to ya basically overnight......

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5372
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/27/93  6:01p
Subj: HOT NEW PIONEER PRICING!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
      PCJ Computing proudly announces lower pricing on the
             Pioneer DRM600A 6 disc CD-ROM changers.
 
            The new, lower pricing is listed below.
 
Drive                       Access time (avg)     Disc change time
------------------------------------------------------------------
DRM600A                        600ms                7 sec. max
 
Pricing:
 
Drive                       Bare drive          Kit (inc card/cable)
--------------------------------------------------------------------
DRM600A                       $729.00                 $799.00
 
International sales and shipping welcome. Contact us by fax or leave a
message here if you are outside the USA and we will be happy to quote a
price for shipping to anywhere in the world.
 
If interested, contact Doug Carpenter at PCJ Computing.
 
Toll Free (800) 547-7817 (Orders only, please!)
Voice (615) 476-4026     FAX (615) 479-1047     BBS   (615) 478-2890

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5373
  To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                       Date: 09/28/93  8:05a
Subj: Re: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-26-93 19:18> Jean-Claude Demars wrote:

JD>> Then your confidence should allow you to stand behind the disk.  I've
JD>> bought  quite a few discs in my day, that are now sitting in a file
JD>> cabinet.  Being  all new files, I have no way at all of knowing what
JD>> kind of quality they are.  Being all original's, i tend to think of
JD>> some of the AM files I've been sent.

Understand this scenario well. Your concerns are valid ones, and alot of
consumers have been 'Burned' and left in rubble--I am not trying to challenge
you nor am I trying to make a sale, the disc will have to stand on its own
merit. I am assuming AM means (Amateur models), and it sounds as if you were
left disppointed (ie--sitting in the file cabinet)--

JD>> Guess I'll just have to pass on it..

Not the point of my previous message--It's just that I don't take the rap well
for the mistakes/ripoffs of other publishers--Until I burn consumers
personally, I take no responsibility for those that have--
I know they exist but this is why these echoes are sooo important to monitor
for product feedback. Kinda a buyer beware area if you will-

Its OK to be skeptical, but make sure you don't imply others to pay for debt
they never owed--I never sent you AM files, so I hardly classify myself as
"One" of those that let you down--I applaud your honesty, and your concern for
quality product, until I do differently, Im choosing to believe I have and will
continue to deliver as promised. Been at this profession awhile, and let's hope
I learned something along the way.

All The Best,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5374
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 09/28/93  8:19a
Subj: Re: Adult CD ROM's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-26-93 06:26> Frank Gresh wrote:

FG>> I had asked a question about adult CD's, however, I am inclined to
FG>> more hardcore type of disks, I can see T&A everyday on the beach

Sorry about that one--Somtimes messages get so over 'Quoted' that its hard to
get to the originator of the post--

Not passing judgement on your preference--Actually, preference for 'XXX' is
quite common--Scoop up all the product you can, because with regulation about
to come our way, not many are willing to go to jail over publication of such--
Having had 2 successful 'XXX' disc's on the market, I am sorry I did
those...but they will always be around somewhere, and as long as you peruse
this echo, Im sure you will have purchasing opportunity.

Darn shame I just deleted the next paragraph--But reconsidered that you may not
have a sense of humour :) No offense meant, just being considerate to a
stranger--Some men can't handle a 'Feisty' female, so I gave you the benefit of
the doubt.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5375
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/28/93  8:56a
Subj: Re: Review of STAREware                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-26-93 07:42> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> As usual, Lee, your post is most informative. There's still some
BJ>> unceratinty on my part whether the problems stem primarily from the
BJ>> XXX nature of the ROM or the copyright issue or both.

I was referring to the 'XXX' nature not the copyright issues. The attorneys
told me there was a statute for the obscenity publishing as well.

BJ>> And since
BJ>> you've been meeting with the video folks, what's their take on the
BJ>> XXX vid industry - same problems??

Ditto--We will be governed under the video regulations until caselaw dictates
other--Just for the heck of it, I pulled Florida's statutes and it included
computer generated media--Its a felony, and FLA considers CDROM publishers as
manufacturers, vs a book store, video store, or topless bar. Spent alot of time
with ammendment attorneys, and it was money well spent. Not wanting to believe
what I was advised, I spent time with the video industry, and it was deja vu
all over--All I ever knew was BBS existing scans/images and believed tapping
the licensed stuff was gonna be tough--Well, I found the repositories, and have
been offered numerous deals, and when asked why they offered it to me, the
standard answer was they felt I had enough bucks ($250,000) and a legal
contingency fund already set aside to handle the 'Biz'--NOT!!! From there, I
got all the factoids about dealing in the 'XXX' industry, and alot of inside
gov't info was released to me--All I will say, is I hope I got out of that side
in time--No money is worth it, and when the first publisher takes a fall, you
remember this conversation we are having now. None of these publishers (incl
myself up until recently) ever gave the legal implications a thought--What's
the harm, we all thought. Well, what makes us think we can deal in 'XXX'
nationally and internationally and think we are invincible to
prosecution--Video's and mags are regulated, and why should we have free reign
in the seculiar when others who did the same as we are doing time in the 'Pen ?
The gov't is onto us CD-ROM publishers, especially when alot of the video CD's
went National on talk shows--The gov't is monitoring all online environments
for as much info into this arena--There is gonna be a sting, when the gov't
knows what/how to best use what they know--

Distributors are even expressing concerns about dealing in 'XXX', and the shows
are starting to ban these products--The industry has matured beyond the
'Grassroots', and when you mention CD-ROM, there are less, 'Duh' responses--You
would not believe the challenges adult manufacturers go through, and the monies
paid out to avoid busts......it's un-comprehensible for a little person like
me--

Don't know how much sense this makes--But my point is, I cannot afford the
risks associated with manufacturing 'XXX' CD's--If others can, more power to
them....ignorance is not bliss with obscenity issues--I just thank all those
that thought enough of me to save my butt from the 'AX' that will ultimately
fall on another--

So it was not hard for me to look to develop another niche in the biz, at least
if nailed for T&A, first time should equate to a misdeamnor--So, I may leave
that arena too, and stick with famous female collections. The sales won't be
like 'XXX' but at least I know I can sleep well at night.

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 5376
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/28/93  7:05p
Subj: Re: Southern Beauties Once More         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <09-26-93 13:23> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>  Oooops! I gonna get this right YET! For all those that are
BJ>  interested,
BJ>  Southern Beauties does indeed have 1000 unique images on it, GIFs and
BJ>  TIFs combined. The TIF images are, for all practical purposes, each a
BJ>  repeat of some GIF image, whether the TIF image has the exact same
BJ>  name
BJ>  or not.
BJ>
BJ>  I'm only able to do file comparisons based on either name, size, or
BJ>  checksum. So my last post (Erratum), was based on a name comparison
BJ>  between the TIFs and the GIFs. YOU SHOULD IGNORE THAT POST! When Dave
BJ>  Van Gelder (one of SB's producers) first spoke, I mistakenly thought
BJ>  he
BJ>  was claiming that the TIFs were different images from the GIFs. NOT
BJ>  SO.
BJ>  The TIFs images were selected from the best of the GIFs (it shows)
BJ>  but
BJ>  only after the GIFs names had been re-sorted to be sequential.
BJ>  Accordingly, some of the GIF/TIF pairs will line up name-wise, some
BJ>  won't. Bottom line: It don't make a hoot! For now at least, Southern
BJ>  Beauties is the slickest, prettiest adult CD out there. Dave promises
BJ>  that next one will be even better. I can't wait!!


Bob, I certainly enjoyed and appreciated you kind review of "Southern
Beauties".  The "captious" remarks were well received and I appreciate
the critical review you performed.

We are always looking for ways to improve the quality of our future
productions, and your opinions will certainly enable us to accomplish
this goal.  
 
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From: FRANK GRESH                            Number: 5377
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/28/93  7:36p
Subj: THANKS                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>FG> Only problem is, now my eyes hurt.  Thanks again
BJ>                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
BJ> And your monitor screen has "nose prints" on it, right? (:>>

No, but my glare filter does leave a funny looking imprint on the end of
my nose !! rofl (to myself that is)
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From: FRANK GRESH                            Number: 5378
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/28/93  7:36p
Subj: Precision Mapping                       Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MS>CH>  Does "Precision Mapping" cover the rural areas too, or just the
MS>CH>  cities to the detail that you were talking about? I remember you
MS>CH>  mentioned a road that your father and uncle had built to access
MS>CH>  their apple orchard being shown on it.  Also, is it topo or like
MS>CH>  a road map?  Thanks for any additionl information that you can
MS>CH>  give me regarding this disk.

MS>Charlie,

MS>It covers any region which has been mapped out by surveyors, which is
MS>99.9% of the country I would guesstimate.  No topographical data to
MS>speak of, just stuff like major landmarks, cities, rivers, airports,
MS>schools, etc, plus of course all the roads and highways.

MS>I've used mine quite a bit, and it TRULY is one of the best CD applications
MS>I have tried.

Mike, how much is this CD going for, between myself and my parents, we
all travel alot, and this might be very very useful, let me know..Frank
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5379
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/27/93 10:22p
Subj: CD-Rom Closeout!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Computer Works is having a closeout sale on all adult CD-Roms. 
The following discs are all for sale for $29.00 to adults only over the 
age of 21 while supplies last: 
 
***************************** $29.00 Each ****************************** 
 
101 Sex Positions Part 1 SOLD OUT       Luscious Ladies 
101 Sex Positions Part 2 SOLD OUT       My Private Collection  SOLD OUT 
Adult Palate Volume 1                   NightWatch Interactive SOLD OUT 
Adult Reference Library  SOLD OUT       PC-Pix Volume 2 
Animation Fantasies Vol 1               PC-Pix Volume 3 
Animation Fantasies Vol 2               Pork-Ware 1 
Asian Ladies                            Pork-Ware 2 
Busty Babes Volume 1 Rel 2              Private Pictures 
Busty Babes Volume 1 Rel 3              Seymore Butts          SOLD OUT 
Digital Dancing          SOLD OUT       Seventh Heaven 
Digital Dreams                          Southern Beauties      SOLD OUT 
Ecstasy Hot Pics Vol 1                  Stareware 
Erotic Encounters Vol 1                 Storm I 
Erotic Encounters Vol 2  SOLD OUT       Storm II 
Hidden Obsessions        SOLD OUT       Storm III 
GBL Alternative Lifestyles              Total Fantasy Disc 1   SOLD OUT 
Hot Pix Volume 2                        Visual Fantasies       SOLD OUT 
Hot Pix Volume 3 
Hot Pix Volume 4 
Hot Pix Volume 5 
 
***************************** $29.00 Each ****************************** 
 
As you can see, they are selling fast.  When these titles are gone, we 
will no longer be carrying the adult titles.  Get 'em before they're 
gone! 
 
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales!    Download catalog1.zip for our latest 
(205) 793-4481 Voice            list of available CD-Roms & prices. 
(205) 671-0092 BBS              Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5380
  To: VINCENT TESTA                            Date: 09/27/93  9:48p
Subj: nightowl 10                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

VT>Is nightowl 10 released yet or ? 
 
Computer Works will have Night Owl 10 in hand next week.  I placed my 
order today when my supplier said he will have it on monday.  As far as 
price goes, I will match the lowest price advertised.  I am not going to 
quote a price yet as that would do nothing but drive the price into the 
dirt before it arrives. <G> 
 
We will also have Night Owl Games for sale for $24.  It was just 
released and is on the way to me.  I will release some details when it 
arrives. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5381
  To: CHRIS WISE                               Date: 09/27/93  9:56p
Subj: business phone book wante               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CW>Looking for a business phone book, would like to have the newest one, 
  >but 1992 will be accepted.  Let me know prices and avail. 
 
Computer Works has the following available for sale: 
 
American Business Phonebook 93-94       $35.00   (I didn't name it) ;) 
American Business Phonebook 92-93       $16.00 
Prophone Business 1993                  $26.00 
Phone Disc USA Business                 $69.00 
 
Give us a call if you are interested.  Our complete catalog can be 
downloaded from our support BBS on your first call.  The catalog is 
called CATALOG1.ZIP for the list sorted by title, and CATALOG2.ZIP for 
the list sorted by category. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5382
  To: JOE LOOSMORE                             Date: 09/27/93 10:03p
Subj: WTB Mircosoft Works                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>I am looking for either Microsoft Works or Q&A in CD format, willing to 
  >pay fair price. 
 
Computer Works has them at the following price: 
 
Microsoft Works         $39.00 
Q & A                   $42.00 
 
Shipping is $4 for up to 5 CD's.  If interested, give us a call. 
Thanks! 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5383
  To: CHRIS BAKER                              Date: 09/27/93 10:16p
Subj: Monster Media `93 - No.2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CB>                         Monster Media `93 - No.2 
  >                             is NOW shipping! 
 
Does this one have the file lists for Spitfire BBSes?  The file name is 
sffiles.bbs including names, sizes, and dates.  There is a comma in the 
size field which is used for the file tagging character.  Monster Media 
No. 1 was advertised as supporting Spitfire, but it took more than what 
was on that CD to make it work for one of my customers.  I just want to 
make them happy.  Thanks. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5384
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/27/93 10:30p
Subj: Lowest CD-Rom Prices Yet!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have been very busy working on our new catalog with the most titles 
and lowest prices yet.  This price list can be downloaded from the 
Computer Works BBS on your first call at 14.4 kbps.  Here is a small 
sampling of our regular prices: 
 
Big Sky Rom             $26             Night Owl 9             $24 
CICA Windows            $14             Hacker Chronicles       $25 
Monster Media #1 1993   $30             Night Owl Graphics      $29 
PC Sig 12               $24             Phoenix Rom 4.0         $23 
Shareware Explorer Set  $53             So Much Shareware 3     $26 
Software Vault 2        $23             Software Vault Gold     $27 
 
Compare our prices to anyone and you will see that we are a serious 
competitor in the CD-Rom market.  We now sell over 600 titles in many 
different categories for the largest selection available.  If you see a 
lower price on any non-closeout title, bring it to us and we will beat 
it!  Download CATALOG1.ZIP for the list sorted by titles or CATALOG2.ZIP 
for the list sorted by category. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders 24 Hours/Day 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5385
  To: MACY BERGOON                             Date: 09/28/93  5:16p
Subj: CD's...                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>I am interested in buying any Shareware CD's, Especially Programmer 
  >related CD's....  (New or Used).  Reply Here.... 
 
If you will post your address, you will receive a catalog from Computer 
Works, and probably several other dealers.  Thanks. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice    Download CATALOG1.ZIP for our latest prices. 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders. 
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From: COREY BICCUM                           Number: 5386
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/28/93  4:14p
Subj: NEW CD-ROM TITLES                       Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

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From: COREY BICCUM                           Number: 5387
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 09/28/93  4:16p
Subj: CD's 4-Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Kevin, could you please mail me a catalog of your cd's at:

Corey Biccum
#16-20 Deerwood Pl.
Port Moody, BC
Canada
v3h 4x7


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From: COREY BICCUM                           Number: 5388
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/28/93  4:21p
Subj: cd rom Catalog?                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Any of you dealers out there that would like to add me to your mailing list
please do;

Corey Biccum
#16-20 Deerwood Pl.
Port Moody, BC
Canada
v3h 4x7


Thanx alot, look forward to doing business with you...


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From: MIKE BRAUN                             Number: 5389
  To: WARREN DANIO                             Date: 09/28/93  9:18a
Subj: CDROM FOR-SALE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 WD>              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  I'll just assume you are a
 WD>         NEWBY when you go from MITSUMI to NEC you are definately
 WD>         goinging up in quality. Like you said "my mitsumi does not
 WD>         support os/2" AND a WHOLE lot else. If it was so dam good
 WD>         you wouldent be getting read of it..


         if you don't like the offer don't reply!!  and dude learn how
to spell you can't spell for shit!!

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 5390
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 09/27/93  9:33p
Subj: USED CD's for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ED>I have the following used cd's for sale:

ED>OS/2 archive for $18

   I'll trade you the two Access companion disks for the above CD.
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ If your mind goes blank, remember to turn down the soun


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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 5391
  To: GARY GILMORE                             Date: 09/27/93  8:51p
Subj: Review of raincoat cds                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 09-21-93  01:08 Gary Gilmore said something about Review of raincoat cds, to
which I reply: 

 GG> How about reviews of non-porno CDs.  I think there's a bigger market
 GG> for that. How many dupes?  FILES.BBS compatible?  New or old software? 
 GG> Layouts? Junky files?  Too many ANSI's?  Something like that would be
 GG> invaluable to sysops, and the non-porn CD purchasers out there.

I agree completely! But not all cd-rom purchasers are sysops, so reviews
that address non-BBS issues would also be useful. For example, Walnut
Creek discs tend to have good material, but the user interface doesn't
allow viewing contents of zip files, viewing GIFS, or simply copying the
zip files to the hard drive, ram drive, etc. PIER, by contrast, has
those capabilities, while Walnut Creek allows only extracting the
archived files. On the plus side, Walnut Creek's discs can be run
entirely from the cdrom, without the need to clutter up the hard drive.


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 5392
  To: THOMAS ALLRED                            Date: 09/28/93  5:34a
Subj: Re: cd-roms wanted x-rated              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 23 Sep 93  23:52:01, I heard Thomas Allred shout to All:

TA> i am looking to buy x-rated cd rom's any kind except male gays
TA> 
TA> please leave me a messge here of what you have and how much $
TA> 
TA> am looking to buy now
TA> 
TA> 
TA>                                           thanks  

Southern Beauties..........$43.00
Lovely Ladies II...........$30.00
Exotic Girls...............$25.00
Busty Babes II.............$29.00

              1-800-638-5757

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 5393
  To: MARK LUTZ                                Date: 09/28/93  3:23p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM 4/Sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 25 Sep 93  11:00:00, I heard Mark Lutz shout to All:

ML> Brand New CDR-1000 Drives $ 135.00

I am interested...  How many do you have ???  And can I get a Discount on 
Multiples ??  And Give me a Phone number to call...

                             ...|<evin

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From: ROEL SARCENO                           Number: 5394
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/28/93  5:51p
Subj: HACKER CHRONICLES                       Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike,

-> We do indeed.  Roel:  We have them in stock at $26.  If interested, g
-> a call any time.

Are the files in archive format?  If so what format.

Roel


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From: ADRIAN VERGOT                          Number: 5395
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/27/93 11:30p
Subj: Make your own CD-ROM!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM? 
 
CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your proprietary DOS or Windows
files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and Affordable.
All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information
(600+ Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (other
formats considered on a case by case basis) and we will directly
transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any
ISO compliant CD-ROM drive (just about every one made today!)
 
- Confidentiality is assured
- $99 per CD-ROM
- additional copies only $50 each
- Turn around time is about 2 days
- BBS Sysops call for rates
- We accept money orders and cashiers checks
- Pesonal Check orders will be shipped when check clears bank
 
If interested, call (412) 942-4694 and ask for Adrian 
Auto Fax (412) 942-4694
 
CD ROM Creations
108 Shady Lane
McMurray, PA  15317
 
Enclose a signed copy of the following disclaimer with your order:
 
DUE TO THE BULK NATURE OF THIS SERVICE, CD-ROM CREATIONS (c) DOES
NOT AND CAN NOT CENSOR AND DETERMINE THE NATURE OF THE MATERIEL
THAT THE CUSTOMER IS PROVIDING.  IT IS THEREFORE THE SOLE
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER TO ENSURE THAT NO COPYRIGHT
VIOLATIONS EXIST IN PLACING THE DATA ONTO CD-ROM
                      Signed ______________________________
                                     Your Signature

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From: THOMAS ALLRED                          Number: 5396
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/28/93  7:38a
Subj: external cd rom for sale cheap          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

i have an external cd rom drive for sale cheap it is a BSR6800MX i dont have
the controller card but the drive is sold by DAK industries and is made by
MITSUMI so i am sure one of those companies will sell you a card. the cd rom
is mine and it works fine the card was stolen along with my computer that is
why i don't have the card now i bought a new computer an internal cd-rom
 LOOKING TO SELL CHEAP OR TRADE MAKE ME AN OFFER!!!!

WILL TRADE FOR X-RATED CD ROM TITLES NOT MALE GAY
WILL TRADE FOR 9600 OR FASTER MODEM INTERNAL W/MANUAL
WILL TRADE FOR A NX-1040 PRINTER
WILL TRADE FOR ??????????????????

i will gaurantee the drive to work fine or i will refund your money or trade



                                                thomas allred
                                                305-989-1473  
 

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From: DAVID FATTAHIAN                        Number: 5397
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/28/93 11:20p
Subj: Mac CD's Wanted                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anybody out there have any Mac CD's they're selling?  Am especially
looking for a copy of Virtual Valerie and the Journeyman Project, but am
interested in anything Mac.

Dave
 -> Alice4Mac 2.2b2 E QWK Eval:15Sep93 
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5398
  To: KIRK REEVES                              Date: 09/29/93 12:08a
Subj: Starvector Software                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KR> GI> Mike Shannon posted the price list for Starvector
KR> GI> Software and I was wondering if anyone had ever ordered
KR> GI> from there???  Are they a decent place to buy from?

KR>Yes.  I brought three disks, Asian Ladies, Mystique of The Orient and
KR>7th Guest from Mike recently and am very happy.  I was shooping around
KR>and Mike offered me the best price.  I have also seen message from other
KR>satisified customer on this net.  All I can say I will be buying more.
KR>At least a $1,000 dollars worth before the end of the year.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

ALL RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I like you Kirk.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5399
  To: STEVE PROCTOR                            Date: 09/29/93 12:08a
Subj: OS/2                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SP>I currently have the WIN-OS/2 CDROM but its quite old.  Does anyone have
SP>a newwer CDROM full of OS/2 applications and files.bbs files so I can
SP>add this to my BBS?  If so, who and whats the name and price.

Steve,

We will in about a week!  CD-OS2Box is being pressed right now, and it
will have ONLY version 2.0+ files.  Around 325mb or so, and fully
BBS-compatible.  Now taking pre-orders at $29 w/ free shipping, or they
are $29 + $4 shipping after released.  This WILL BE the best OS/2 CD
on the market!

Call any time if you're interested.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5400
  To: DANNY TSENG                              Date: 09/29/93 12:08a
Subj: OS2 Shareware                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DT>    I'm looking for a CD which just contains OS/2 shareware and is BBS
ready.
DT>Could anyone give some suggestion about which OS/2 CD is better and where I
c
DT>get it.

Danny,

We're now accepting pre-orders for what will be the nicest OS/2 CD on the
market.  CD-OS2Box will be around 325mb of only version 2.0+ files, and
is BBS-Ready.  Pre-order pricing is $29 w/ free shipping, or add $4
shipping if you order after release.  Should be ready in about a week to
10 days.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5401
  To: ROEL SARCENO                             Date: 09/29/93 12:08a
Subj: HACKER?                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF>>-> Over 12 years in the making - The HACKER CHRONICLES - A Tour of the
BF>>-> computer underground.

BF>>Is this disk BBS ready?

Not BBS-ready, but VERY interesting reading.  Actually, considering the
info that's on this disc, I doubt that very many sysops would want to
expose their callers to it.  8)  We have them in stock at $26 if you're
interested.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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 * SLMR 2.1a * Tagline thievery . . . On the next Geraldo!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5402
  To: ALAN ORNDORFF                            Date: 09/29/93 12:08a
Subj: os/2 cd-rom                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AO>   I have received a few responses from folks regarding as OS/2 specific
AO>cd-rom.  I have ordered two of them.  Hobbes os/2 and another one
AO>entitled ems's os/2 utility library.  Now I have also received a message
AO>on what would appear to be another good one to pick up from your
AO>organization.

Alan,

When you're ready to order, give us a call!  Now taking pre-orders on
OS/2Box at $29 w/ free shipping until they are released.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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 * SLMR 2.1a * Hello, I am Mike and I am a baudaholic.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5403
  To: PETE CRESSWELL                           Date: 09/29/93 12:08a
Subj: OS/2 CD WANTED                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PC> DP> Damar Enterprises' OS2/Box goes to press this week.  Check with Mike
PC> DP> Shannon for  pricing - we do not sell direct to end users.
PC> DP>
PC> DP> this disk.  Its also  BBS ready with multiple formats of the file
PC> DP> descriptions (FILES.BBS is the  default, but there is also SFFILES.BBS,

PC>I'm looking for an OS2 BB-ready CDRom too.

Pete,

You can order these through Starvector.  Give us a call any time.  $29
w/ free shipping on all pre-orders.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5404
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/29/93 12:08a
Subj: FIREARMS REFERENCE: $30                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |   Title:  FIREARMS REFERENCE  |  |   Price:  $30   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

     We are pleased to announce the release of Firearms Reference 1993.
     This CD-ROM is intended to be both a reference and an entertaining
     diversion for the computer enthusiast who is interested in guns of
     all types.  What's more . . . it can be used on a BBS!

     * Features over 600 products
     * 70 different manufacturers
     * 256-color hi-rez images
     * BBS-Ready in several formats
     * Custom-designed Super-VGA interface
     * Covers every firearm from black powder rifles, to Class 3 weapons
     * Even covers crossbows, optics, and ammo!

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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 * SLMR 2.1a * Iraq:  Where men are men and sheep are nervous.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5405
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/29/93 12:08a
Subj: CD-ROM PACKAGE SPECIALS                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #5: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS   |
         |________________________________________________________|


1. Night Owl 7.0     2. Storm 1     3. Southern Beauties     4. Hot Pix 3
   Night Owl 8.0        PC-Pix 2       All Beauties             Hot Pix 4
   Night Owl 9.0        Storm 3        Amateur Models           Hot Pix 5
   -------------        -------        --------------           ---------
   $59                  $65            $89                      $74


       5. Night Owl 8.0     6. Night Owl 9     7. All Beauties
          Night Owl 9.0        Pier 2             Southern Beauties
          -------------        ------             -----------------
          $45                  $55                $59


8. Software Vault 1        9. Empire Clipart             10. Pier 2
   Software Vault 2           Clipart Heaven                 SW Vault 2
   Software Vault Gold        Encyclopedia of Clipart        SW Studio 2
   -------------------        -----------------------        -----------
   $57                        $59                            $59


11. CD Winbox      12. Giga Games       13. Mac Shareware     14. Storm 1
    Windows 93         Game Arena           Garbo DOS/Mac         Storm 3
    ----------         ----------           -------               -------
    $44                $35                  $35                   $45


15. Fantazia Fonts         16. Porkware 1       17. Shareware Online 1
    Fontmaster 2               Porkware 2           Shareware Online 2
    Too Many Typefonts         All Beauties         So Much Shareware 3
    ------------------         ------------         -------------------
    $49                        $89                  $69


PLUS, AN ADDED BONUS . . . . .

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: ADRIAN SALAS                           Number: 5406
  To: DANIEL HALL                              Date: 09/28/93 10:39a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS=>DH>Do you have any gay cd'roms avalable?

We have Hot Hunks & GBL in stock, I can fax or netmail a catalog.

Cheers~
Adrian
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ ROM CONNECTION CD-SALES Voice 619-479-8688 10am-7pm PST


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From: MARTIN BELCKE                          Number: 5407
  To: MACY BERGOON                             Date: 09/29/93 11:52a
Subj: CD's...                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hello All:
->
-> I am interested in buying any Shareware CD's, Especially Programmer
-> related CD's....  (New or Used).  Reply Here....
->

Hackers World BBS Monster-I CD contains all 1993 shareware files.  There
are a number of files that are programmer related.  See the stats posted
in another message for all of the info.

Cost is $45.00, S/H included.

--Martin Belcke--

(309) 672-4406 Voice (Monday-Friday 10AM-6PM Central Time)
(309) 672-4427 Data  (1:232/10 aka 201:100/145)
(309) 672-4436 FAX
(309) 672-4405 BBS lines 1-24  (No Mailer) 14.4 V32b/V42b
(309) 672-4447 BBS lines 20-24 (No Mailer) 16.8 USR D/S  HST/V32b/V42b

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From: MARTIN BELCKE                          Number: 5408
  To: KD4QZZ HARRY                             Date: 09/29/93 12:03p
Subj: HACKERS WORLD MONSTER-I                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> MB>               YOU NEED HACKERS WORLD
-> MB>                    MONSTER-I CD
->
-> Rather than a list of what's not on this CD, could you provide a shor
-> list of some of the things on it?

As you requested.  Glad to supply the information.


HACKERS WORLD MONSTER-1 CD-ROM


Catagory              #Files        #Directories

Business Related        177             5
Clipper Related         191             6
Archiver                  5             1
Communications           53             4
Educational              46             3
Games                   123             4
Genealogy               204             4
Graphics, Viewers
  Drawing Pgms, DTP
  ACAD Files             99            10
Home Related             17             3
Ham Related             471            11
Mailer Pgms/Utils        64             4
Innovative Data Net      32             2
SDN, General            113             3
IBM Employee Written     68             2
Networking              246            11
OS/2                    568             9
Programming Utils       168            10
Sound Files              68             6
Utilities, General      280             4
Windows Related (3.1)   473            11
Electronic Publishings   61             4
Survival Files           70             3
Word Processors          20             2
Sysop/BBS Files         348             2

   Totals              3965           124


Ordering information is below.  Cost of this CD is $45.00 S/H included.

--Martin Belcke--
(309) 672-4406 Voice (Monday-Friday 10AM-6PM Central Time)
(309) 672-4427 Data  (1:232/10 aka 201:100/145)  Mailer only
(309) 672-4436 FAX
(309) 672-4405 BBS lines 1-24  (No Mailer) 14.4 V32b/V42b
(309) 672-4447 BBS lines 20-24 (No Mailer) 16.8 USR D/S  HST/V32b/V42b


If you have a mailer program and would like to freq the file listing,
please call 1:232/10 or 1:232/16 and freq MNSTR1.ZIP

This file contains the complete file listing as well as individual
directory listing.  All files are in their original released format with
the -AV stamps inplace and have been virus scanned at least 3 times.

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From: MIKE BRITT                             Number: 5409
  To: MARK LUTZ                                Date: 09/27/93 10:03p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom 4/sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 ML> Brand New CDR-1000 Drives $ 135.00


      I may be interested in these. Please leave me some info or call me
collect or whatever at 704-786-6974.

                                                  Mike

Sphinx EM/v5.0 * Arsonists drive Blazers!  Proctologists drive Probes!

                  ----------------------------------------

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 5410
  To: TAMI THOMPSON                            Date: 09/29/93  4:51a
Subj: Karaoke                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The CD is for the IBM
if still interested...20.00
Jeff Jenkins
1435 N tamarisk
Chandler, Az.
85224

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From: DANE CROSLEY                           Number: 5411
  To: ROB PERELMAN                             Date: 09/28/93  7:53p
Subj: FREE CATALOG                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Rob,
    sounds great, please send me a copy @

    Dane Crosley
    66-40 108 Street Apt. 5A
    Forset Hills NY, 11375

Thanks.


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From: JOHN ENGLAND                           Number: 5412
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 09/29/93 12:01p
Subj: Mitsumi 300ms                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi, Michael. Sorry, but the CD-ROM drive is already sold ! I will, however,
hold on to your name and let you know if the sale should fall through.  Thanks,
Jeff.

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From: CARL SLAWINSKI                         Number: 5413
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/29/93  2:19a
Subj: Re: Cd's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ahoy Pat!

On <Monday September 27 1993>, Pat Rickerson was mumbling to Carl Slawinski:

 PR> Haven't heard any thing yet. Did you get the money?
 PR> Will wait for a reply.

Yep. Already sent them. You should have them in your hand within a day or so
after receiving this message.

Sorry for the delay.


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5414
  To: BOB DAMATO                               Date: 09/29/93  6:33a
Subj: CDROM DISCS 1 OF 2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BD> Doug.. couple of questions... Is the encyclopedia 
 BD> of sound .wav format??? What is danger hot stuff 2? 
 BD> is the guiness book of records multi media? and do 
 BD> you have the NASA 10 CD set??? I would be 
 BD> interested in the above cdroms.

The Encyclopedia of Sound does have WAV files.  Danger Hot Stuff 2 is some sort
of various types of animation.  Yes...Guiness comes in MM.....I don't sell the
NASA set....

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5415
  To: BOB DAMATO                               Date: 09/29/93  6:36a
Subj: CDROM DISCS 2 OF 2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BD> Also.. what is space shuttle..?  Thanks again... Bob

 BD> --- TMail v1.31.4
 
It is a game / educational type disc where you fly the space shuttle on various
missions..

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5416
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 09/29/93  6:37a
Subj: <> CD-ROM TITLES & MORE <>              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RD>           You just saveed yourself from a FLAME!  I 
 RD> had prepared a GREAT one here, several screens 
 RD> long.  Glad I didn't have to send it and I look 
 RD> forward to the order.  Thanks.

If you don't get your order by this Friday, let me know and I'll trace
it......glad you didn't send a flame....it was not needed.....

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5417
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/29/93  6:41a
Subj: PREORDER NIGHT OWL VERSION 10!          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
*********************************************************************
 
              P  C  J  is now accepting pre-orders for
 
              the NEW NIGHTOWL Shareware Version 10 !
 
**********************     ONLY $ 29.00   ****************************
 
Due out in one week!  Call and order now.  800-547-7817 or 615-339-0235

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 5418
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/28/93 10:50p
Subj: NO#10 $20                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Night Owl's #10 will be available sometimes next week and we are taking
preorders for $20 plus $3 shipping USA $5 international.
 
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
1-206-473-1634 FAX or 1-800-277-5179 FAX
 
All major credit cards and COD, checks accpeted. 

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From: CATALINO ALVAREZ                       Number: 5419
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/29/93  1:59a
Subj: Buying Used CD's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Get rid of those CD's that you don't use anymore and are collecting dust!
Contact me.  Interested in EVERYTHING from games to educational to adult
etc...

C. Alvarez Jr
(407)282-8827 or leave mess on board

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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 5420
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/28/93 11:14p
Subj: Linux CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone (or dealer) have a LINUX CD?  I have seen it advertised
before in this echo.  I would like to see some prices on that CD if you
would be so kind.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5421
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 09/29/93 11:06a
Subj: Re: Review of Raincoat CDs              Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Thanks, Arnie. I agree that an "adult entertainment" echo/forum would be more
appropriateas it would be both a place for those that want to discuss such
topics a place to gather as well as insulate those that are not interested in
such topics from data/info/chat etc. that they'd just as soon not hear/read.
There was a small bit of previous discussion on this topic but it seems to
have died for lack of interest/commitment from someone willing to take the
reins.

I try to keep mindful of non-interested parties when I write the reviews and
choose my vocabulary accordingly. I always welcome comments on how I could
improve them in this or any other regard, as well as support such as your post
to "press on".

I was approached by one shareware producer to do a review, which I'm willing
to try, but I haven't heard from them since. Mike Shannon posted a few
"duplictae file" comparisons between shareware CDs a while back. How much more
than that is possible to review would require some thought. Obviously one
couldn't try out several thousand programs and report on each of them. Also,
according to Lee Noga, the shelf-life of a shareware CD is about 90 days (I
think I got that right), so any review would almost have to come out in
parallel with the CD's release. That might pose some logistical problems.

At any rate, thanks for your comments.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5422
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/29/93 11:10a
Subj: Re: Review of STAREware                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can't thank you enough, Lee, for sharing with us all FOR FREE data/info that
you paid dearly for. You're a credit to the business world.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5423
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/28/93 11:00a
Subj: Re:  Adult CD ROM's                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Lee Noga to Bob Jackson <=-

 LN> limited to 1,000 scans, not because there is not more material, but we
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I don't see this as a problem - quality over quantity every time!

 LN> there was photography of me with Miss Venus Interantional '94, and I
 LN> may put that pix on the Venus disc :)
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oh, please do! There's still an argument going over whether that's you
on the cover of BB or Ecstasy. You could put that ine to rest for good!
((:>

 LN> weeded thru 650 MB of shareware and removed those ZIPS that required
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This seems to be a growing problem...

 LN> we have SHOWOFF, and the scanning is nice--:) We took it to the pros !
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Thank you! Thank you!

 LN> slides. We did not do any in 24 true color, they are all 640 or
 LN> 800X600--Too many video cards out there are not equipped for true
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Good thinking, Lee.  I'm still undecided whether or not they're worth
the real estate they command.


... He who dies with the most TAGLINES wins!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5424
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/28/93 11:05a
Subj: Re: Review of STAREware                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Lee Noga to Bob Jackson <=-
 LN> I feel horrible sometimes divulging the inside skinny, but hell, the
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
When the "inside skinny" serves only to dupe the CUSTOMER, it deserves
to be brought to light.

 LN> have alot of polish, nice packaging, and front end engines--We are in
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
True - but the ones that stop there (e.g. Girls of Vivid IMHO), will
find their products languishing on the shelves.

 LN> in underground operations--Enough to make your head spin,
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
They won't be able to bring a quality product to market. Their customers
will be the true "raincoaters".

 LN> Hugs from a feisty broad!,
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                       CUSTOMER!
Back at 'cha, Love!

... Answers: $1, Short: $5, Correct: $25, dumb looks are still free.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5425
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/28/93 11:09a
Subj: Re: Erratum                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Lee Noga to Bob Jackson <=-
 LN> In principal there is nothing to retract, in counts, perhaps you owe
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Well, I did make the first goof (in counting) and then Dave and I
miscommunicated. I hope it's all straight now.

 LN> keep the reviews coming whether the authors can handle the
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Will do!

 LN> reality knocks or not-- I rely on you to me make a better
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Aw, shucks! L'il ol' me?

 LN> product, and I'm sure Mr VG appreciates the same.....I think
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I think so, too.

... RAM = Rarely Adequate Memory
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5426
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/28/93 11:26a
Subj: Re: Industry changes                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Lee Noga to Hank Peterson <=-
 LN> As I hear anything, which I do weekly, I will go public with it--I am
 LN> not shamed to allow the public to peek into our world too :)
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Like I've said before, "Lady" Lee Noga...

... ARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! ... Tension breaker, had to be done.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5427
  To: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN                        Date: 09/28/93 11:31a
Subj: Re: Review of STAREware                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Chris Christensen to Bob Jackson <=-
 CC> Excellent! I would freq them if the sysop would put them up. If not I
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
They should all be there by the time you read this.

 CC> would send some disks to you for copies. Appreciate your efforts in
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm up for that if anyone wants to go that route.

Thanks for the encouragement! Ciao!


... "You keep saying that, I don't think it means what you think it means"
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5428
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/28/93 12:02p
Subj: Re: XXX POLICY CHANGE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Lee Noga to JERE WESSELL <=-
 LN> Drats, Batman, I have a scheduling conflict with the Donald Trump
 LN> American Dream Girls shoot Nov 11-18th at the Taj in Atlantic
                      ^                ^^^^
                      ^--------------|
My natal anniversary! Pinch one of them on the bum for me! ((:>

... Answers: $1, Short: $5, Correct: $25, dumb looks are still free.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5429
  To: DAN GUILLORY                             Date: 09/29/93 11:49a
Subj: Re: CDROM Reviews                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Dan Guillory to All <=-

 DG> The following files are available for FREQ (File Request) by any
Dan, you're an ace!

... Ahh! Come on George, just this one last little feature!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5430
  To: HANK PETERSON                            Date: 09/29/93 11:56a
Subj: Re: Industry changes                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Hank Peterson to Lee Noga <=-
 HP> better things.   I laugh at everybodys idea of the adult movie
 HP> business too. It is a  lot of work!!!! Oh no! there aren't going to
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I've never "been there" but from what I can gather, the "action" is MUCH
more prosaic than any outsider could ever imagine. After reading a few
books by Rimmer, Holliday, Christensen, etc., I became more interested
in the people and the processes and less interested in the products.


... Security, confine Ensign Peterson to the brig.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5431
  To: JEFF NEWMAN                              Date: 09/29/93 12:01p
Subj: Address                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Jeff Newman to Bob Jackson <=-
 JN> Bob, I am an open minded individual and will take whatever you have
 JN> that you do not want. :-)

 Netmail me your address to this BBS just in case... (:>

... "Yield to temptation, it may not pass your way again." - L. Long
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From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                     Number: 5432
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/29/93  1:43p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN> In a message to Lee Noga <09-26-93 19:18> Jean-Claude Demars
LN> wrote:

LN> Its OK to be skeptical....
Thank You LN> I applaud your honesty, and your concern for quality
LN> product, until I do differently, Im choosing to believe I
LN> have and will continue to deliver as promised.
I have no doubt that you feel you are selling a quality product.  I also have
no doubt that the vendors who I have bought from in the past don't also feel
they were selling a quality product.  What concerns me is that you are not
willing to stand behind your product.  I'm not asking you to send me one and
then in 30 or 90 days, send me a bill.  What I was asking is that if I find
your CD-Rom does not live up to my expectation based the claims of yourself
and others (IE: anyone else who comments on the specific disk), that I be
allowed to send it back and request a refund.  Your asking people to buy
somthing sight unseen, telling the consumer that if you don't like it once you
see it, oh well.  If this disk is as good as you say it is, then what is your
concern?  I'm sure I would love it and keep it, but if your idea of beauty and
mine are tottallt diffent, then there is a chance that it would not be what I
was looking for.  You've told me about how much money you have invested in the
disk, yet you would not invest in pictures you could not see, based on the
photographer saying "Yea, there great"...  Would you?  You don't go to a
poster shop and buy a poster rolled up, knowing only that someone at the
publisher felt the photo was nice enough to publish...  No, you look at the
example, then decide if it would fit the wall you wanted to hang it on.

LN> Been at this
LN> profession awhile, and let's hope I learned something along
LN> the way.

I've been a consumer for awhile and have learned (at my expense I might add)
to be careful what one spends his money one.  I'm sure your disk is a good
value if one finds the all original work on it to there tastes, but what I'm
not sure is your taste and mine are the same.

JC


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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 5433
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/26/93  9:31p
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Doug,
        I, and I notice a few others have REPEATEDLY asked you about the status
of order placed either via your BBS, as is my case, or other methods.

          I have made enquiries about my order SEVERAL times via your BBS and
at least once in this echo.  Your response has ALWAYS been the same, ZILCH,
NADA, SFA, NOWT.  Are you making business or simply pretending to take orders
and cackling maniacly in the background?  There are a number of customers
connected to this echo who EXPECT a reasonable level of service from persons
claiming to be suppliers.

          My question, and this will be the LAST time it is made to you, what
is the status of my order, which was made via your BBS?  Has it shipped yet?
Are you planning to ship it any time soon?  Is there some problem with the
order?  Are you a REAL person of justs figment of someone's imagination?

          I have placed orders with you, Boris and Mike. All were made at the
same time.  The order from Boris has been delivered, one disc returned as
faulty and I received the replacement.  Mike has not received his order as he
apparently has not NetMail contact on the BBS he uses (Get a mailer, Mike
<grin>), but the order to you, although acknowledged PERSONALLY by you on your
BBS, STILL has not arrived or as far as I am aware, even been sent by you.

          Doug, I am on the verge of sending you a flame, this (if you do not
understand it) is a POLITE request.  Your level of service to your customers
cannot be described in words, at least not while ladies are present, and I can
only presume that you have some sort of masochistic tendancy and want people to
actually dislike the service, which you are NOT, providing.  WAKE UP DOUG and
get on with job.

         Do I get my CDs or not?  MOVE IT OR LOSE IT.


                                                   Cheers,

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From: ALAN ORNDORFF                          Number: 5434
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/28/93  5:56p
Subj: OS/2 CD Wanted                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MS>We are now accepting pre-orders on what looks to be the most exciting OS/2
  >CD ever!  It's CD-OS2Box, and is comprised of over 300 megs. of strictly
  >version 2+ OS/2 shareware.  Nice packaging, graphic user interface, and
  >BBS-ready.  Our price is $29, and you get free shipping if you pre-order.
  >Should begin shipping around the first of October.

MS>Gimme a call if you're interested!

Ok, I'm interested!  What I'm looking for are a few good utils and not a
lot of "deletable and forgetable" utils.  I'll assume that all the OS/2
specific compression programs are on the CD as well.  A few decent games
to relax with would also be preferable.  How does it compare to Hobbes
as far as duplications go.  I've heard good things about Hobbes, and
will probably order it soon unless this turns out to be better.  Oh,
btw, put me down for $175 on your BB 1 thing.  Oh one more thing, I'm
going on a mini vacation starting Octet. 6.  If I paid the shipping do you
thing it would be possible to get it by the fifth, so while I'm sitting
on my duff, I could peruse the cd if I do desire to purchase it.
thanks.

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From: DON DEMAERE                            Number: 5435
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 09/26/93  8:16a
Subj: sony CD drives                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Recently you advertised:

 JJ> I have 3 brand new Sony CD rom drives for sale. still in shrink wrap.
 JJ> 350ms access 300KB transfer!   exceeds MPC level 2!
 JJ> internal version (non SCSI) with card.
 JJ> 299.00 includes shipping.  

What is the model number of these drives? Will they daisy chain with the Sony
7205 that I currently own?

Don

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From: DUANE CRONKITE                         Number: 5436
  To: 1                                        Date: 09/28/93 10:38p
Subj: test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

(88)    27 Sep 93  06:23:13     Rcvd: Mon 27 Sep 16:40
By: Chris Griffin, CT SEMS MailServer (1:142/1)
To: Duane Cronkite
Re: Grunged Message Deleted
St: Pvt Rcvd                                                                89>
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This is to inform you of what seems to be a discrepancy
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The most common reasons are:
 
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In order to protect the distribution system, it was
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For your information, the discrepancy that caused the
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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 5437
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/26/93  5:01p
Subj: Night Owl v10 Shareware C               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*@SUBJECT:Night Owl v10 Shareware CD                                  N
       Night Owl's Publisher and TCM Computing proudly announce:

                   NIGHT OWL SHAREWARE CD VERSION 10

                      Available:   Oct. 1, 1993
                      Price:       $39

Here are the stats from the DIRs (using Bob Neal's CDDA/CDFDA programs):

    Percent 1993 files................................... 100%
    Percent files dated Jan-Jun '93......................  34%
    Percent files dated Jul-Sep '93 (age 3 mo. or less)..  66%  !!!!!
    Percent dupes with Night Owl 9.......................   0%
    Percent internal dupes on CD.........................   0%

           Total Meg: 645     Total Files: 5,120

Dates reported reflect actual file dates (.EXE, .COM, .OVL, etc.), not ZIP
dates.  Night Owl 10 contains the NEWEST and MOST CURRENT files available on
any CD, BAR NONE!  In fact, 101 Meg. of the total files are from Sept. '93!
Forget all the hype, just check the stats.

  ** Games ** Communications ** Utilities ** Windows 3.1 ** OS/2 **
  ** Graphics ** GIFs ** Demos ** Data Base ** Modem ** Video **
  ** DV/QEMM ** Menus/Shells ** Compression ** Virus ** Spreadsheet **
  ** Network/LAN ** Offline Mail ** Fonts ** Word Processing ** DOS **
  ** BASIC ** PASCAL ** Business/Finacne ** Unix/Linux ** MORE!!

          HOT!!!  HOTTER!!!  HOTTEST!!!  S*I*Z*Z*L*E!!!!

Night Owl's Publisher and TCM Computing have again joined forces to bring
you the very *best* Shareware CD available.  Our last two joint-efforts
(NOPV9 and Graphics v1) have received rave reviews from both our customers
and the CD-ROM industry (see the Sep/Oct 1993 issue of "CD-ROM Reporter").
Now, WE'VE DONE IT AGAIN!

File DIRs are now available to download from TCM BBS as NIGHTV10.ZIP).

As with all Night Owl CDs, v10 will be BBS ready (PCBoard DIR format).
As the Night Owl Support BBS, TCM has conversion programs available to
generate the file directories for most BBS s/w.  PLUS, the state-of-the-art
NIGHT.EXE retreival engine has had even more features adder for v10!!
This includes a mouse-driven GUI interface for both DOS and WINDOWS!

Make sure you check out Night Owl v10 before you spend your money on any
other disk; Night Owl remains the LEADER in Shareware CDs!

    ****  TCM IS NOW TAKING ORDERS FOR NIGHT OWL v10  ****

 You may place VISA/MC orders while online at TCM by typing ORDER at
 the Main Menu prompt (previous TCM customers and Sysops should use the
 "Previous Customer" Menu selection).  Checks or Money Order should be
 sent to the address listed below.   NO ONE WILL HAVE NIGHT OWL V10
 BEFORE TCM!

 TCM Computing accepts Visa, MasterCard, Money Orders and Check.  C.O.D.
 shipments are also welcome ($4 extra).  Call TCM for all the information!

 => TCM is an authorized N.O. Distributor.  Dealers call for pricing. <=

 TCM Computing                             (703) 439-8032
 Rt. 2 Box 130                             (703) 439-8237 Fax
 Midland, Va.  22728                       (703) 439-3060 BBS
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From: DAVE BAKKER                            Number: 5438
  To: ROB PERELMAN                             Date: 09/25/93  8:25a
Subj: FREE CATALOG                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

( 09-23-93 ) Rob Perelman wrote to All about FREE CATALOG

RP>My uncle is selling 100-200 CD titles and he is offering a free catalo
RP>to anyone who has a CD Rom drive.  That's right...FREE!!  All you have
RP>to do is send me your name and address or your fax number and he will
RP>mail you a free catalog by mail or fax - YOUR CHOICE!!!  Just respond
RP>privately in this conference or net mail me at 1:202/344.1 with your
RP>information (CD Rom drive type not needed) and we will get it out to y
RP>A.S.A.P.! There is no obligation, so you have no reason not to
RP>respond...I mean hey, it's FREE!!!
RP>
RP>cc: JEFF COLLINGWOOD

I'm interested in getting a free catalog my address is:

Dave Bakker
1350 3rd Street Louth
St.Catharines, Ontario Canada
L2R-6P9





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From: DAVE BAKKER                            Number: 5439
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/25/93  8:41a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris,
Could you send a copy of your catalog to:

Dave Bakker
1350 3rd Street Louth
St.Catharines, Ontario Canada
L2R-6P9



Thanks!




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From: DAVE BAKKER                            Number: 5440
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/25/93  8:44a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOGS                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For anyone dealing in CD-ROM sales please send a catalog to the
following address:



Dave Bakker
1350 3rd Street Louth
St.Catharines, Ontario Canada
L2R-6P9

Thanks a bunch!



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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5441
  To: THOMAS ALLRED                            Date: 09/29/93  7:39a
Subj: external cd rom for sale cheap          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Thomas!

28 Sep 93, Thomas Allred writes to All:

 TA> i have an external cd rom drive for sale cheap it is a BSR6800MX i dont
 TA> have the controller card but the drive is sold by DAK industries and is
 TA> made by MITSUMI so i am sure one of those companies will sell you a card.
 TA> the cd rom is mine and it works fine the card was stolen along with my
 TA> computer that is why i don't have the card now i bought a new computer an
 TA> internal cd-rom LOOKING TO SELL CHEAP OR TRADE MAKE ME AN OFFER!!!!

 TA> WILL TRADE FOR X-RATED CD ROM TITLES NOT MALE GAY
 TA> WILL TRADE FOR 9600 OR FASTER MODEM INTERNAL W/MANUAL
 TA> WILL TRADE FOR A NX-1040 PRINTER
 TA> WILL TRADE FOR ??????????????????

 TA> i will gaurantee the drive to work fine or i will refund your money or
 TA> trade

Have Busty Babes #1 Adult

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5442
  To: WENDELL KENNEY                           Date: 09/29/93  7:05p
Subj: Simms/Recived                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Wendell!

Recived the simms today, thanks. I have already used some and they are great!
Thank you again, from my son!

Pat

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 5443
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/29/93  3:58p
Subj: CD for sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a brand new "Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego"
on CD for sale.
20.00
will also consider trades
leave mail....

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From: BRIAN RYCHLICKI                        Number: 5444
  To: MICHAEL GIUNTOLI                         Date: 09/28/93 11:13p
Subj: Re: mm encyclopedia                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG>        Boris i currently have a Sb-Pro one of the first pro's to hit
MG>the market. Not the new Sb16 the old one. It says in the manual that
MG>i need a Matsushita model CR-521 CD ROM. Can you help me. I have
MG>seen the new 522 model drives for the sb16. But i need a 521 to work
MG>with my old SBPRO. If you can get em. How much? including shipping.
MG>                Lemme know asap

Thought I would butt in and mention that if you have a SB PRO version 2, which
is what I have, you can use any "Panasonic" drive ie CDR562B whichis a 300kb
Transfer rate, 320mS access time.  My manual says exactly what yours says.
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From: PHILLIP DAMPIER                        Number: 5445
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/29/93 11:22a
Subj: Looking for ITN CD-ROM                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a CD-ROM product that is a review of news stories produced by
ITN News.  I think it's called something like "World in Review" or something of
that nature.  It contains stories and clips produced by the ITN news people, an
independent British news consortium.

Any assistance would be welcome.

I'd also like some comments about the maze of phone directories on CD-ROM. 
What are the good and bad points of the ProPhone and PhoneDisc products?

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From: DANNY TSENG                            Number: 5446
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 09/29/93  3:14p
Subj: OS2 Shareware                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 ED> I have OS/2 archive for $18 if you are interested.
        Does it support Colorado Jumbo-250 tape drive?



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From: GARY GILMORE                           Number: 5447
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 09/29/93  5:26a
Subj: Review of raincoat cds                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 GG> How about reviews of non-porno CDs.

 LF> I agree completely! But not all cd-rom purchasers are sysops, so reviews
 LF> that address non-BBS issues would also be useful.

Very true.  I'd like to see Bob address non-porn as well.  

<aside to Bob>  I think you do a good job with your porn reviews.  How about
expanding them to include non-porn as well.

Cover things like:

o Do the disks contain endless megs of graphics, or wasteful ANSI's?
o Do the disk's compilers seem to have a love affair with a certain thing?
  (like the SO MUCH SHAREWARE people have with Spitfire BBS, for some odd
   reason...)
o Are there new utils/files?  Or are they just re-dated?
o What's the dupe percentage on disk?  Compared to previous releases?
o Are there FILES.BBS for sysop use?
o Is there an interface for non-BBS use?  Any good?
o What's the general "feel" of the disk.  Junk?  Quality?

Doing something like this could serve every aspect of CDROM use, not just porn.
Think about it, ok?

--Gary

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From: CAM LIRONDELLE                         Number: 5448
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/29/93 12:26a
Subj: Re: Cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi I was wondering if you could send me your dealer price list for all your
cd roms and acc.

College Computers Box 5111 th12
red deer, Ab
Canada
T4N-6P6


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From: CAM LIRONDELLE                         Number: 5449
  To: KEVIN KING                               Date: 09/29/93 12:32a
Subj: resellers quaerterly                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Could you please send me info on your publication.  It would be very
 helpful to me here in Canada.
 College Computers
 box 5111 TH12
 Red Deer, AB]
 Canada
 T4N-6P6


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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 5450
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/29/93  5:21a
Subj: CD-ROM'S FOR SALE                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM'S FOR SALE --  OVER 40 TITLES TO CHOOSE FROM ------
ANY 10 DIFFERENT TITLES FOR $ 125.00
ALL 40 TITLES FOR $ 450.00
------------------------------------
1001 UTILITIES                BUSINESS ASSISTANT
CALIFORNIA COLLECTION         FONT MASTER
GAME ARENA                    JOKES &  PRANKS
LEARNING ADVENTURE            ORIGINAL SHAREWARE
PC-SIG HOME & BUSINESS        SELECTWARE
VGA SPECTRUM                  ANECDOTES
BIBLES & RELIGION             CLIPART GOLIATH
CLIPART HEAVEN                COMPLETE BOOKSHOP
DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLES      DESKTOP BOOKSHOP
DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES      ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUND
GUINESS WORLD RECORDS         HAM RADIO
MOTHER OF ALL CLIPART         OUR SOLAR SYSTEM
PC-SIG WORLD OF GAMES         PHOENIX VER.3
SHAREWARE OVERLOAD            SO MUCH SHAREWARE 2
SOUND SENSATIONS              TECHNOTOOLS
PC-SIG WORLD OF WINDOWS       TOO MANY TYPEFONTS
WINDOWARE                     QRZ HAM RADIO
CICA WINDOWS DISK             GARBO MSDOS/MAC
GIFS GALORE (G-RATED)         MPC WIZARD
MSDOS ARCHIVES(SIMTEL 20)     OS/2 ARCHIVES
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I WILL ACCEPT CHECKS OR MONEY ORDERS ONLY
(CHECKS HELD TO CLEAR)
$5.00 SHIPPING & HANDLING (NO LIMIT ON NUMBER OF CD'S ORDER)
SEND ORDERS TO:
JANE GREENO
2508 AVENIDA REGULO
TUCSON AZ. 85710
FAX # 1-602-292-0497

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From: DWAYNE GRUBER                          Number: 5451
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/29/93  4:04p
Subj: CD-GAMES                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I don't know if my last message got through, I got logged off when writing it,
anyway I was wondering if you could give me a list of CD-ROM games that use
CD-AUDIO.  I have one called loom that's great because it doesn't need a sound
card.  Thanks

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From: KEVIN KING                             Number: 5452
  To: LOUIS SOKOL                              Date: 09/28/93  6:07p
Subj: LOOKING FOR CD-ROM JUKE BOX             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for giving me your mailing address. Will mail you out a copy of        
RESALE93.ZIP and I'll make this copy a pre-registered copy should you want to 
help upload it in your own local calling area. I'm paying $5.00 commisions on 
orders. Your code number on the ordeer form will be LS-77478 this is how we   
track those who have helped us.  Upload to as many boards as you like. It's   
always nice to get a $5.00 check in the mail. Thanks!  Kevin King, SysOp      
My Favorite BBS" - a Business Support Board and HOME of the Reseller's        
Quarterly" 1-916-381-2851 680MB Running Wildcat, 14.4 modem. 24-Hrs
                 


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From: KEVIN KING                             Number: 5453
  To: MARK GLENN                               Date: 09/28/93  6:17p
Subj: CDROMS FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mark would you please give me your mailing address as it's eaiser to mail you a
copy of RESALE93.ZIP then call and log on as a new user and upload it.
Thanks. Kevin King, SysOp "My Favorite BBS" 1-916-381-2851 Home of the
Reseller's Quarterly. A Business Support board.

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From: HOWARD ONEIL                           Number: 5454
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/29/93  4:30a
Subj: Trade Wanted                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a Seagate ST251 with a WD-1003SR-2 RLL controller which makes the drive
a 65meg.  Was asking $80.00 for both, but would like to arrange a trade, for
other hardware, perhaps a CDROM or VGA Monitor,and a FAIR amount of CASH along
with them.


I have RLL'ed and MFM the drive without problems while using this  -controller,
which is 16 bit format and can't forsee future problems.

The controller will address ANY type of floppy drive or PAIR of HD -drives. 
Only thing is that from day one, the controller will ONLY operate one floppy
connected to it and when I've tried to use pairs,neither work.  Maybe the
manner in which my cables were hooked up, I don't know.  
                                                                               

If interested, in these as a pair, let me know and we can arrange a swap.   I
have the original box that the Seagate drive came in with side pocket where
controller was also shipped.  No D.O.A. and will guarentee compatability with
ANY SINGLE floppy or pairs of HD drives that are install.  I'll include a copy
of Disk Manager with it.
   
I'm presently using the drive, but can have it out in a day.

Howard

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From: CHRISTINE UNDERWOOD                    Number: 5455
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/28/93 12:04p
Subj: Genealogy CDs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone know of a company that puts out genealogy related CDs?

Thanks

Chris


... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 5456
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/25/93  1:40p
Subj: Apple Sevice Info CD                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    The following is a list of of the apple products covered by the Apple
service Info CD we're offering:


Compact:  Macintosh,  Plus,  SE, SE/30, Classic/II/Perf. 200, Color Classic
Modular:  II, (x, fx, cx, ci, si, vx, vi, Performa 600), LC (II,III, Perf.
          400), Centris 610 & 650, Quadra 700, 800, 900, 950.
Portable: Mac Portable, PowerBook  100,140,145,170,165c,160,180, Duo 210/230,
          Duo Dock, Duo Minidock
Printers: LaserWriter (/Plus), LW II, Personal LW, LW Pro, LW Pro Sheetfeeder
          LW Pro Envelope Feeder, LW Select
          ImageWriter II, II/L, LQ, StyleWriter, SW II, Apple Color Printer
Drives:   400k, 800k, Apple 3.5 Drive, Superdrive, Apple PC 5.25, HDI 20 1.4M
          Hard Disk 20, SCSI Hard Drives,
          Apple CD SC/SC Plus, CD 150 & 300
          Tape Backup 40SC
Displays: Apple Hi-Res Mono, H-R RGB, Basic Color, 12" Mono & RGB, Performa
          Display/Plus, Portrait Display, 2 Page Mono, 16" & 21" Color
Commun.:  Comm Cards (ISDN NB/3270 API NB/ Serial NB), Modems, Ethernet and
          Token Ring Products
Other:    Apple Scanner, Color One Scanner, ADB devices, SIMM's, Video Cards

   Price: $18 includes 1st class shipping, add $20% outside U.S.A.

Send SASE for flyer describing the disk including sample screen shots or
check or money order to purchase. Sorry, no credit cards or COD's.

Mail Orders: Sonoma Online, POB 7518, Santa Rosa CA 95407 (707)545-7533
Local Sales: Visit our office at 3928 Sebastopol Rd., Santa Rosa CA




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From: MARK RICHARDSON                        Number: 5457
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/27/93  6:02p
Subj: WC2 Deluxe                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello all! I am looking for Wing Commander 2 Deluxe on CD-ROM for a good price.
Is anyone selling it? Thanks.

                Mark

>> Mark
... It's Ensign Pillsbury, Jim. He's bread.
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From: MARK RICHARDSON                        Number: 5458
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/27/93  6:10p
Subj: Re: BIG CD-ROM PRICE LIST 2/2           Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

  I might be interested in the Wing Commander 2 Secret Missions.  (thats Wing
  Wing Commander 2 deluxe right?, with WC2,Special Ops, and the Speech pack?)
  If it is do you ship to Ontario?  Is it still only 4 bucks if you do?

                                Mark

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From: JOHN SAYA                              Number: 5459
  To: THOMAS ALLRED                            Date: 09/29/93 11:46p
Subj: Re: external cd rom for s               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Thomas Allred to All <=-

 TA> i have an external cd rom drive for sale cheap it is a BSR6800MX i
 TA> dont have the controller card but the drive is sold by DAK industries
 TA> and is made by MITSUMI so i am sure one of those companies will sell
 TA> you a card. the cd rom is mine and it works fine the card was stolen
 TA> along with my computer that is why i don't have the card now i bought a
 TA> new computer an internal cd-rom LOOKING TO SELL CHEAP OR TRADE MAKE ME
 TA> AN OFFER!!!!

How fast is it? Can it be run through a Sound Blaster? Is it photo cd
compatible?

I will give you a Casio Digital Computer Diary
that has clock/alarm, world time/map, memo, schedular, telecommunications/
phonebook, reminder, calculator, calendar, and even passwords to keep all
of your information safe! There are more features too, and you can even
hook it up to an IBM compatible computer with an attachment, but I don't
own the attachment. It's in excellent condition, it has the manual and
stuff and it's practically hand size. It looks like a little computer.
When it was new it ran for around $100. And it still looks new. If you
like this trade, then call me at 315-468-3181 or reply to this message.
Thanks, John.


... "Yield to temptation, it may not pass your way again." - L. Long
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From: RICHARD JOHNSON                        Number: 5460
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/29/93  2:33p
Subj: Hitachi CDR-3500                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a used Hitachi CDR-3500. If you have one for sale please let
me know. Thanks!

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From: DANIEL HAGAN                           Number: 5461
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 09/30/93  1:00a
Subj: Starvector Software                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  GI> Mike Shannon posted the price list for Starvector Software and I was
 >  GI> wondering if anyone had ever ordered from there???  Are they a decent
 >  GI> place to buy from?

 > I give Mike at Starvector the HIGHEST of recommendations.  He knows
 > his products, delivers on time and has the BEST prices around!  :-)

 > You won't go wrong by ordering from Starvector.  You need to watch
 > out for crooks in this industry (I shouldn't mention names like
 > "GroupWare," but you get my drift).

<SUBLIMINAL MODE ON>

Wow Dave <ninny>!  That's *SOME* statement <Libel>...if I ran something called
"GroupWare" <call a lawyer> I'd probably consider some serious actions <big
bucks defamation of character case> here unless you have something <a prayer or
hard copy evidence> that backs-up your claim like <snow balls chance...>:

1.  Charged for CD's that never came through
2.  Illegal use of credit card numbers
3.  Purposely misdescribing an item in order to sell it

I haven't purchased from anyone here yet <prices going down>, but if you have
information I'm sure we would *ALL* love to hear about it <probably not>.

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From: DAVID H. CALVARESE                     Number: 5462
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/29/93  9:01p
Subj: BIG CD-ROM PRICE LIST                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS@> >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
MS@> >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

MS@> Bible Library.................28.50
MS@> Bibles & Religion.............13.00


What information can you give me on the above discs?

David H. Calvarese
534 Wilson Ave.
Mingo Jct.,  Ohio  43938-1554

David Calvarese - Co-Sysop - Steel Valley BBS - (614)282-5310
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From: DAVID H. CALVARESE                     Number: 5463
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/29/93  9:01p
Subj: BIG CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    From: MIKE SHANNON @1:344/79*4Ü            To: ALL @1:129/201*4Ü
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  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/29/93  9:01p
Subj: BIG CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1/2               Refer: NONE
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From: DAVID H. CALVARESE                     Number: 5465
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/29/93  9:01p
Subj: BIG CD-ROM PRICE LIST 2/2               Refer: NONE
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>>> Continued from previous message
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From: DAVID H. CALVARESE                     Number: 5466
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/29/93  9:01p
Subj: BIG CD-ROM PRICE LIST                   Refer: NONE
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MS@> **************************************************************************
MS@> September 1993          DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 9/23
MS@> **************************************************************************
MS@> Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00

What info can you give me on this disc?

Same address as on the other one I sent you.


David Calvarese - Co-Sysop - Steel Valley BBS - (614)282-5310
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From: DAVID H. CALVARESE                     Number: 5467
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/29/93  9:01p
Subj: USED CD's for sale                      Refer: NONE
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What can you tell me about this CD?  Please be specific.  I need to know
what is on it, as in what translations and so forth.  Also what kinds of
CDs would you consider in trade?

David Calvarese - Co-Sysop - Steel Valley BBS - (614)282-5310
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5468
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 09/30/93  2:51a
Subj: Re: Catalog                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>     Boris,
>>            Did you ever put me on your list, I need a price on
>>            some NEW cd's and need em fast! NightOwl v10 and maybe
>>            a few more! Thanks,


Yep, your on our list all right Sam....grin!!

As for a price on the NEW Night Owls, like all new products, we don't
take PRE-ORDERS nor do we want to post any prices until we have the product
in our hands. Many times over, you've seen sysop after sysop complain about
not getting a PRE-RELEASE product on the date they said it was to be
released or finding out that if they had waited a week or so they could have
saving a few dollars!! It only creates hard feelings and unhappy customers
and we're not interested in either of those no matter what the product
is !!

So, we'll just sit back and wait and when they come in, we'll post the price
and hopefully everyone will be happy.

Thank you for your interest and I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5469
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 09/30/93  2:51a
Subj: Re: Virtual Valerie                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>>>>    I have heard of an interactive Adult CD called Virtual
BO>>>>    Valerie, I guess it was profiled in Playboy or Penthouse, but
BO>>>>    this is just what a friend of mine says.  Anyone with any
BO>>>>    information on this CD, please drop a note here, thanks...Frank

BO>>Yep, it's truely an adult cd but only available in MAC format at the
BO>>moment. From what I've been told, it's in the works for a PC version,
BO>>but as to it's release have no idea.

BO>>Boris Osadciw

>>    Thanks Boris, do you plan on distributing it once it becomes
>>    available? If not, does anyone else plan on distributing it
>>    that's on this conference? All replies appreciated.

Gee Frank, you should know better than that !! If it comes out, sure we'll
carry it and throw some killer prices on it as well. But I personally
feel it will be a while before it hit's the market. All I hear is " It's
in the works!"

Chat with you soon.....

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5470
  To: JOE LOOSMORE                             Date: 09/30/93  2:51a
Subj: Re: WTB Mircosoft Works                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Thanks, but I was looking for only the bang I need for less
>>    bucks!

Not a problem! Next time we'll just have to load it with blanks..grin!

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5471
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/30/93  2:51a
Subj: CDROM SPECIALS                          Refer: NONE
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Texel Int 245ms Bare Dr - $369.00  Texel Ext 245ms Bare  - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00  Texel Ext Complete    - $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $399.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $499.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00  Mitsumi w/Sound Card  - $325.00 -PRPR
 Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50.  ALL ChestNuts CD's $11.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 5472
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/29/93  8:25p
Subj: SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD                     Refer: NONE
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                            New Release:
                        SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD
                         $30 US or $40 Cdn

600+ Megabytes of nothing but 1993 Shareware... 6 different BBS file
formats to make it truly BBS Ready plus "no BBS ads".


                   Canada's CD-ROM Source is...

                   CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA

               6 Armstrong Bay * Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7
               306-789-4654 Voice * 306-789-8690 Fax
                    VISA/MC/MO/Cheque Accepted

           New titles weekly! Call for current specials!
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 5473
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/29/93  8:37p
Subj: CANADIAN CD-ROM SOURCE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA
6 Armstrong Bay                    306-789-4654 Voice
Regina, Sk.                        306-789-8690 Fax
S4N 4G7                            306-789-8682 BBS

PRICES IN CANADIAN DOLLARS - U.S. CUSTOMERS CALL FOR CURRENT EXCHANGE
RATE

American Business Phonebook    $40 Information on 11 Million Canadian
                                   AND American businesses.
Animals Multimedia (DOS/MAC)   $35 Special exhibits, guided tours, &
                                   stories from the San Diego Zoo;
                                   200 mammals, birds, reptiles.
                                   EXCELLENT Multimedia presentation.
Arthur's Teacher Trouble       $45 Educational w/music & animations.
                                   Teaches reading & object
                                   recognition.
Barney Bear/School             $35 Interactive story of the first day at
                                   school. Ages 3-8. Kids can play
                                   alone.
Barney Bear/Space              $35 Ages 3-8. Animation, games, & stories
                                   to present facts about space.
Bibles and Religion            $22 New & Old Testament, Book of Mormons,
                                   Lexicons, study guides,
                                   more!
Business Master                $30 1100 quality programs. Over 600 meg.
                                   Lots of clip art.
CD Winbox                      $32 650 Meg, 6000+ Windows based files
                                   FOR 3.x and NT. BBS Ready.
Clip Art Goliath               $22 11000+ image files TIF/PCX/MAC/GIF,
                                   some colour. Many subjects.
ColorMagic (PC/MAC)            $32 Over 600 meg of 3D COLOR clip art.
                                   Royalty free, read-me file in
                                   5 languages. Windows & MAC Librarian
                                   included.
Dictionaries & Languages       $22 Giant compilation of Dictionaries,
                                   Thesauruses, Word Processors,
                                   Style Checkers, Glossaries, Cross
                                   Refs, Much More!
Dinosaur Adventures            $35 Start your Dinosaur Adventure today
                                   with this fun CD! Facts,
                                   figures, video, audio, educational/
                                   entertaining games based around
                                   over 40 Dinosaurs - a best seller!
Education Master               $30 1000+ educational programs. Preschool
                                   to college level. Home
                                   Schooling & Classroom Instruction.
Encyclopedia of Clip Art       $35 11000 Files, 51 Directories, 500 Meg,
                                   BBS Ready. New colour
                                   clips. 65 Adults clips. Keyword
                                   search.
Encyclopedia of Sound          $22 Sound effects, voices, music clips,
                                   full length scores, digitally
                                   recorded in full range stereo.
Fantasia Fonts                 $45 2000+ fonts in several formats.
Manual
                                   Included.
Fonts #1                       $35 1100 fonts in several formats incl.
                                   Geoworks, TrueType, Fastfont,
                                   Adobe.
GameMaster                     $30 500+ games, many play directly off of
CD
                                   Sports/Adv/Cards/Arcade/etc.
Games 1993                     $35 6000+ games, over 500MB. Incl.
Sports,
                                   Arcade, Casino, Solutions, more!
Grolier/SWTW Encyclopedia (BP) $70 Picture Encyclopedia on CD-ROM.
                                   SWTW or Grolier's 21 volume. Movie
                                   Clips, Sound, Maps, Animations.
                                   Latest Version 1.5/5.01.
Hacker Chronicles              $35 Experience the computer underground!
Ham Radio 3.0                  $22 Excellent collection of HAM and SWL
                                   programs and data. Incl.
                                   Packet Radio, Satellite
                                   Communications, FCC Regulations,
                                   more.
House of Games                 $25 100s of exciting action, adventure,
                                   sports, suspense, and other
                                   games!
King's Quest V                 $30 The classic adventure game
Kodak Photo CD Editor          $29 Access and manipulate your PHOTO-CD
                                   images.
MacMillan Dictionary for Kids  $35 Excellent word education and
                                   entertainment for children!
Mantis                         $35 Sega Space adventure, enhanced for
                                   CD.
                                   25 action packed missions, includes
                                   SpeechPak & Sound Features.
Mayo Clinic                    $35 Family Health Book. Interactive. MPC
                                   Super illustrations and Animations on
                                   health and medical topics.
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 5474
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/29/93  8:38p
Subj: CANADIAN CD-ROM SOURCE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA
6 Armstrong Bay                    306-789-4654 Voice
Regina, Sk.                        306-789-8690 Fax
S4N 4G7                            306-789-8682 BBS

PRICES IN CANADIAN DOLLARS - U.S. CUSTOMERS CALL FOR CURRENT EXCHANGE
RATE

Mixed Up Mother Goose        $30 Interactive children's game, based on
                                 fairy tales. Requires no
                                 reading skills. Digitized voices and
                                 animation.
Monster Media 93             $40 1993 Update for Jan-Apr 1993. 400+ Meg
                                 of new files, all 1993.
                                 No Duplicates. Published 3 times per
                                 year.
National Parks               $35 Tour of the National Parks w/slide
                                 show & video clips
Night Owl 9                  $40 Latest shareware releases from one of
                                 the best series. BBS ready.
Our Solar System             $22 Exciting NASA and Observatory photos
                                 of planets, moons, comets,
                                 Earth & celestial phenomena! Voyage
                                 Simulators, more!
P.C. Sig #12                 $35 Extremely well done shareware disc,
                                 latest in series. Excellent
                                 interface.
Pinocotheca Multimedia       $30 MPC presentation of scores of
                                 Classical Paintings, Life Stories, and
                                 Works of 800 Painters.
Precision Mapping           $140 Street Mapping program that also
                                 allows you to cut & paste,
                                 integrate, print, search, calc
                                 mileage. Includes Phone Book.
Prophone Business            $35 The business disc from the Prophone
                                 set. Lookup by SIC code,
                                 name, number, etc. Prints mailing
                                 labels.
Publisher's Dream Disk w/man $45 Includes 184 pg. manual shows fonts &
                                 clip art. 3700 PCX files,
                                 550 TrueType, 400 downloadable HP
                                 fonts.
Publishers Paradise w/manual $35 Over 1000 clip art images of
                                 PROFESSIONAL QUALITY for
                                 Windows, Word Perfect, etc. 150 fonts.
Reference Library            $35
Return to the Moon           $50 Over 400 photos, videos & sound clips.
                                 Moonflight simulator.
                                 Multimedia presentations. Luna Corp
                                 Academy w/quizzes.
Sci-Fi                       $35 Star Trek, Star Wars, Fantasy, D&D.
                                 1200 VGA photos, over 100
                                 sound files. BBS ready.
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 5475
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/29/93  8:41p
Subj: CANADIAN CD-ROM SOURCE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA
6 Armstrong Bay                    306-789-4654 Voice
Regina, Sk.                        306-789-8690 Fax
S4N 4G7                            306-789-8682 BBS

PRICES IN CANADIAN DOLLARS - U.S. CUSTOMERS CALL FOR CURRENT EXCHANGE
RATE

Shareware 93                     $35 Lots of great shareware, all from
                                        1993
Shareware Expl MS DOS Vol 3      $35 Disk 3 from the Shareware Explorer
                                        Set
Shareware Expl MS Win Vol 2      $40 Disk 4 from the Shareware Explorer
                                        Set
Shareware Explorer 4 disc set    $80 Files from '92 to August '93 cover
                                     full spectrum from business to
                                     games to utilities to personal. No
                                     duplication, viruses, BBS
                                     ads... *very* easy to use interface
                                     and everything necessary to set-up
                                     for most BBSs. An excellent set!
Shareware Extravaganza (4disc)   $70 4 disc set. Excellent collection of
                                     best programs from 1988-1992.
                                     Program Lister access.
Shareware Studio 2               $20 637 Meg, 6659 Files. BBS Ready
Shareware Studio 3               $39 630+Meg, 6000+Files. BBS Ready.
                                     1992-93 files. Free of errors,
                                     comments, BBS ads, AV codes, and
                                     common viruses.
Sherlock Holmes Detective        $32 Interactive detective game. 3
                                     multimedia adv. games. Full Motion
                                     Video and Sound. Sound Card
                                     required.
Simtel 20 - April 1993           $30 The ultimate utility disk - if
                                     there's something you need,
                                     you'll most likely find it here.
So Much Shareware 3              $40 Latest in this shareware disc
                                     series.
Software Vault #2                $27 All new followup to Vol 1.
Sound Sensations                 $22 Adds Multimedia excitement to your
                                     system. Includes tons of
                                     Sound, Music, etc.
Space Adventure                  $35 From the makers of Dinosaur
                                     Adventure - Experience this
                                     exciting and educational disc!
Space Quest 4                    $30 The classic action adventure game
Space Shuttle                    $40 Space Shuttle with over 50 actual
                                     missions, full motion
                                     video of the events from lift off
                                     to landing. Try your
                                     own hand at one!
Technotools                      $25 Many utilities for programmers
Tempra Access (for Photo CD)     $30 View and edit your Photo-CD images
                                     with this outstanding package
Time Table of Science            $27 Images, sound, animation of 6000
                                     historical major events. Requires
                                     VGA.
Too Many Typefonts               $22 Countless Type Fonts in various
                                     formats: TT, ATM, WFN,
                                     1stPublisher, GhostScript, HP
                                     LaserJet, Type Managers, more!
Toolworks Reference              $35 Webster's Dictionary, Thesaurus,
                                     Spelling Checker, Desk
                                     Reference, Legal Forms, 9 volumes.
Where in the World is Carmen     $40 The best selling educational game
                                     comes to CD-ROM!
Window Master                    $30 Latest from the Master series of
                                     CDs. Tons of Windows
                                     Software!
Windoware                        $22 Excellent disc packed with tons of
                                     useful programs, Typefonts,
                                     Games, Wallpapers, Icons, and much
                                     much more!
Windows 1993                     $35 680 Meg. 7000 files. BBS Ready.
                                     Corel Draw utils, wallpaper,
                                     games, icons, fonts, clip art,
Wing Commander + Ultima 6        $40 2 great Action adventure
                                     interactive
                                     games!
Women of Venus (PC/MAC) (G)      $35 Swimsuit edition. Windows/DOS/MAC.
                                     Plays music in background.
World Vista MPC Atlas            $50 Almanac and fact book. Lots of
                                     statistics. MPC.

All pricing in Canadian Funds; U.S. Customers please call for current
exchange rates.

Prices effective September 25, 1993.
We reserve and exercise the right to improve the selection in this
catalog.
It is subject to change without notice.

We do not sell adult titles to minors. Proof of age may be required.
Call about current specials and the availabilty of MAC titles.
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From: STEAN SNYMAN                           Number: 5476
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/27/93  4:53p
Subj: info on CD's                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

I'm looking for info on the followwing 2 CD's :

VGA SPECTRUM 1
DR. MUSIC

Thanks...
Stean

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From: PATRICK DEAN                           Number: 5477
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/24/93 11:01a
Subj: XX CD roms from USA                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > In a message to All <09-08-93 10:31> Patrick Dean wrote:

 > PD>> I am wondering if anybody has any contacts for buying adult (X) CD
 > PD>> roms in the USA, probably around 20 at a time, and at what prices.

 > Leave your fax number and I will pass this message on-

 > -=*>Lee<*=-  
 >  
 > --- GEcho 1.00+
 >  * Origin: Queen Of Hearts BBS, Deltona FL (904)789-6843
 > (1:3618/23)
 > 500/1 29/777
Lee,
Thanks for your answer, my fax number is (32) (2) 673.74.41, I am in Belgium
Europe.
Hope to hear from you soon,
Patrick Dean
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5478
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 09/30/93  1:24a
Subj: Starvector Software                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN>only problem I had with them was when I was told the the
RN>Gameware Collection 1993 had 1993 dated games on it.  To my suprise it
RN>did not contain even one.  I never called to complain so I am not sure

Randy,

As I said before, if you would like to return this title for something
different, feel free.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5479
  To: ALAN ORNDORFF                            Date: 09/30/93  1:24a
Subj: OS/2 CD Wanted                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AO>  >CD ever!  It's CD-OS2Box, and is comprised of over 300 megs. of strictly
AO>  >version 2+ OS/2 shareware.  Nice packaging, graphic user interface, and
AO>  >BBS-ready.  Our price is $29, and you get free shipping if you pre-order.
AO>  >Should begin shipping around the first of October.

AO>MS>Gimme a call if you're interested!

AO>Ok, I'm interested!  What I'm looking for are a few good utils and not a
AO>lot of "deletable and forgetable" utils.  I'll assume that all the OS/2
AO>specific compression programs are on the CD as well.  A few decent games
AO>to relax with would also be preferable.  How does it compare to Hobbes

I'll have the file list available on my BBS very shortly.  As soon as
it's posted, I'll be alerting the masses, so watch for the announcement!

AO>going on a mini vacation starting Octet. 6.  If I paid the shipping do you
AO>thing it would be possible to get it by the fifth, so while I'm sitting
AO>on my duff, I could peruse the cd if I do desire to purchase it.

That's cutting it pretty thin.  I should have them in my hands by the 6th,
(hopefully), but as for getting it to you by then, I can't promise
anything.  If I have them in before then, I'll be sure to let you know.
As for the BB, I *think* I have it sold.  If it falls through, it's yours!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5480
  To: MOHIT GOYAL                              Date: 09/30/93  1:24a
Subj: BIG CD-ROM LIST 1/2                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG>   OS/2Box (Pre-orders)..........29.00

MG>Can you give me more information on this one?

How's this:

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           |      Title:  CD OS/2BOX       |  |   Price:  $29   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

                       - DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE -

     You all know about the great track record of Damar's previous
     releases:  CD-Winbox and CD-Powerbox.  Well, get ready OS/2 users,
     because the BEST and most RECENT OS/2 shareware CD is almost here!
     The demand will be high so get your name on our list if you want
     to be among the first to try out this brand new title!

     * Slick, mouse-driven graphic user interface for OS/2
     * Consists of 100% OS/2 2.0+ shareware applications. No old version
       1.x files
     * Fully BBS-ready
     * 300+mb total
     * To begin shipping around 1st week in October
     * FREE shipping on all preorders

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5481
  To: MOHIT GOYAL                              Date: 09/30/93  1:24a
Subj: BIG CD-ROM LIST 2/2                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG>   Street Atlas USA v2 (New!)....95.00

MG>How new is this one?

Just hit the market.  Has 1000's of new streets that weren't around for
version 1, plus a much faster interface.

MG>  > Kodak Photo CD Access.........22.00

MG>Could you give me some more information on this one?

Provides photographers with a means of viewing and editing pictures
processed with the Kodak Photo CD system.  You can shoot your roll of 35mm
film, have it processed by Kodalux onto a Photo CD, and then view, edit,
manipulate the images on your PC.  A Photo-CD compatible drive is
required.

Give me a call if we can help you with anything else.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5482
  To: HANK PETERSON                            Date: 09/30/93  1:24a
Subj: Replacement                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HP1>Mike, the replacement CD Stareware, worked great. I can't figure
HP1>out why the other one PC Pix 1 just sat there and spun in my
HP1>Texel. If you ever find out why this kind of thing happens, please
HP1>let me know so I can correct it, if it is my equipment.
HP1>Anyway thanks for your great, prompt, courteous service.
HP1>I put this on this echo  because I think people should know when
HP1>a dealer does an outstanding job. I would recommend you to anyone.

Thanks for the compliment, Hank.  It's satisfied, VOCAL customers like
you who are a real asset to my business!  Anyway, the CD ran fine in my
old iron horse Hitachi.  That drive has read absolutely *EVERYTHING* I've
ever put in it!  I've gotten several supposedly "defective" CD's back for
replacement, most seemingly from Mitsumi owners, and the ol' gal has
read every single one of them!  The ONLY CD I've ever seen that had
definitely been the product of a faulty pressing, was one of my original
Starvector Shareware CD's.  The Hitachi was still able to read it, but
for some reason the disc contained a bunch of .PCX files that I didn't
place there!?!?!  Another mystery perhaps, but I'm glad your replacement
is working OK.

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5483
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/30/93  1:24a
Subj: BUSTY BABES II PREORDERS!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>MS>> taken by the same photographers who regularly shoot for some of the
LN>MS>> major
LN>MS>> adult magazines.

LN>*CORRECT* !!! Right on the $$$$$--Thanks for clarifying this for the
public--

Ah, no problemo.  Any time you need the air cleared, don't hesitate to
call.  My services are free of charge, as long as you set me up like Bob
Jackson, and slip a few freebies under my pillow now and again!  <g>

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5484
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 09/30/93  1:24a
Subj: BRAND NEW CD-ROM TITLES                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FG>ARIZONA IMAGES * Fabulous photos of the Arizona desert country.........$25
FG>TOTAL FANTASY * Newly released .GIF disc from Denmark...............$27

FG>Mike, can you send these to me using the information from my last order,
FG>or will I need to call the 1-800 lines again to order it ????

Not a problem.  Got ya in the computer, so you should be seeing them
soon.  Thanks again.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5485
  To: RED KENNEDY                              Date: 09/30/93  1:24a
Subj: BIG CD-ROM PRICE LIST                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RK>When will you have a new Win disc and send me a catalogue would you
please...
RK>Red in Nanaimo (should be in your dbase some where)

Red,

The next all Windows CD on the horizon looks like either Night Owl Windows,
or CD-Winbox 2.0.  Not sure about delivery dates, but as soon as we have
either, we'll be posting in here.  A new catalog is on the way to you.
(Just came back from the printer with a carload of 'em!)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5486
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 09/30/93  1:24a
Subj: SHAREWARE ONLINE #2                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

AG>   MS>  \MUSIC      184    33,523,012     182,190

AG>Do you have the file list available for download?  I'm curious to see
AG>what has been included in this category.  Midi?  G/M?  Sound Blaster?

Sure do.  You can d/l it from our BBS @ 509-457-0206.

AG>Unfortunately, the archive file dates on most shareware discs do not
AG>accurately reflect the dates of the files within.  I have not seen a
AG>single shareware disc (including my three or four favorites - which
AG>I highly recommend to all my clients) that have accurate dates.

Then you haven't seen the Pier CD's yet!  We now have Pier 3 in stock,
and ALL the files have been checked with the Pier's own "Smart-Date
Checking" utility, and are guaranteed to match the zipfile date.

AG>   MS>  600mb SHAREWARE CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE
AG>Just curious - which disc is this?

Phoenix 3.  (Shhhhhhhhhhh!)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5487
  To: JOHN ROMERO                              Date: 09/30/93  1:24a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>     I'm afraid I made a mistake by not giving you my business first.
JR>I tried Michellea Sorensen from Canada but as of right now they have
JR>taken my money and sent nothing.  They won't even reply to my questions
JR>about my order.
JR>    So what I need from you is a Catalog of all your CD's available with
JR>all the specials you offer. I'm mostly interested in adult and Shareware
JR>CD's.  I also would like a catalog on whatever else you have to sell.
JR>It looks to me that you really try to satisfy your customers and also
JR>have very quick Service. That's very important.

JR>I will be looking foward to your catalog and doing alot of business with
JR>you.

John,

Your catalog is en route.  I don't understand what the problem might
be with the Sorensen's.  I have dealt with Michellea several times, and
she has always been very helpful and courteous.  Have you tried to call
them direct?  Maybe their local board is not receiving your mail or
something to that effect.  I know they are legitimate, and I don't think
you have to worry about being cheated, as I'm sure it's just a
communication breakdown somewhere.  In any case, give us a try sometime!
I'm always here, so if your stuff doesn't get there in time, you can
call me direct and scream and yell at a *REAL PERSON*!  I'm kind of getting
use to it, and very rarely to I yell back any more.  8)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5488
  To: ROEL SARCENO                             Date: 09/30/93  1:24a
Subj: HACKER CHRONICLES                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RS>-> We do indeed.  Roel:  We have them in stock at $26.  If interested, g
RS>-> a call any time.

RS>Are the files in archive format?  If so what format.

I've found that *some* of the text files are also zipped on the CD, but
others are not.  A real challenge if you want it for BBS use.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5489
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/30/93  1:24a
Subj: PIER 3 IS FINALLY HERE!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |        Title:  PIER 3         |  |   Price:  $39   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

                             >>> IT'S HERE! <<<

     The wait is over!  Night Owl's closest rival in the shareware CD
     industry has just released their latest disc:  The Pier Shareware 3.
     Since the release of Pier 1 and 2, there has been a growing
     consensus in the CD-ROM industry that Pier CD's simply have no
     equal when it comes to recent files, accurate BBS listings, and
     great user interfaces.  To put it simply folks, if you are looking
     for the absolute BEST shareware CD for your personal or BBS use,
     Pier 3 is the CD you need.  You will not find a better organized,
     more current shareware CD on the world market, at ANY PRICE!

     * 628mb total
     * Separate <ASP> directory.
     * 100% files dated 1993 S.D.C. (Smart Date Checking utilized)
     * Completely re-written Graphic User Interface for EZ file management,
       which is 300% faster than previous versions!
     * All files have been scanned for viruses with the latest McAfee SCAN.
     * GAP, PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat!, Remote Access FILES.BBS Support.
     * Less then 1% duplication compared to The Pier Shareware 1 & 2.
     * Most current files on the market.  Over 70% dated AFTER 6/93!

                        - DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE -

     File stats for Pier 3:

     92  File   %    Apx 'K'    %        93  File   %    Apx 'K'    %
     ==  ==== =====  ======== =====      ==  ==== =====  ======== =====

      1     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       1     5  0.1%     1,708  0.3%
      2     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       2     6  0.1%     1,066  0.2%
      3     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       3    47  1.0%     5,508  0.9%
      4     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       4   501 11.0%    70,354 11.2%
      5     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       5   693 15.2%    94,210 15.0%
      6     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       6 1,244 27.4%   164,183 26.1%
      7     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       7 1,054 23.2%   156,138 24.8%
      8     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       8   572 12.6%    79,892 12.7%
      9     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       9   421  9.3%    55,188  8.8%
     10     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      10     0  0.0%         0  0.0%
     11     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      11     0  0.0%         0  0.0%
     12     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      12     0  0.0%         0  0.0%
         ---- -----  -------- -----          ---- -----  -------- -----
            0  0.0%         0  0.0%         4,543 99.9%   628,247 99.8%
         ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== =====

That's right!  72.5% dated newer then 6/93!

   2-CD SET:  Pier 2 and 3...................(less than 1% dupes!)....$59
   3-CD SET:  Pier 1, 2, and 3...............(less than 1% dupes!)....$75

                 >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<
                 >>>     DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE!     <<<

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5490
  To: PAUL NALEY                               Date: 09/30/93  1:24a
Subj: Starvector Software                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PN>If I had to rate Starvector Software they would receive four stars.

I hope this isn't on a scale of 1 to 10!  <g>

BTW Paul, *part* of your order is on the way to you.  Should be able to
fill the pre-orders VERY shortly.  (Thanks for the kind words too)

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5491
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/30/93  1:25a
Subj: CD-ROM SALE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #4:  CD-ROM LIQUIDATION!   |
         |________________________________________________________|

            All sales are final - Sale limited to stock on hand!

                              GENERAL TITLES
                              --------------
Gigabyte Gold.......$19   Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15   House of Games......$20
World Vision 3-Pak..$39   US Wars: Korea......$29   US Wars: Des. Storm.$29
Guinness MPC/DOS....$16   Super CD 1..........$14   Mac M/M Space.......$35
Sporting News.......$22   Conan the Cimmerian.$27   Game Pack 2.........$22
Original S/W 1993...$10   Phoenix 3.0.........$10   Jedi Collection.....$39
Lion's Share........$19   Clipart Galore......$25   Reel Clips..........$35
Windoware...........$10   Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$22   Ham Radio 3.0.......$10
Top 2000 Shareware..$18   Software Vault 1....$17   Window Master.......$17
California Collct'n.$17   Hobbes OS/2 1992....$12   Sights & Sounds.....$21
K-Tracks Sound F/X..$17   Sounds for Windows..$15   7th Guest Beta Copy.$??

                     ADULT TITLES (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
Erotic Encounters 1.$29   PC-PIX 1............$25   PC-PIX 2............$25
Erotic Encounters 2.$29   Seventh Heaven......$25   Seedy 6-Pak........$119
My 1st Time side 1..$20   Stareware...........$28   Private Collection..$29

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: ADRIAN SALAS                           Number: 5492
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 09/30/93  7:05p
Subj: ASIAN LADIES WANTED                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RL=>Who can give me the best price on Asian Ladies shipped??

RL=>Ron

Asian Ladies NEW 39.00 Shipped!  Priority Mail!

Adrian Salas
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ ROM CONNECTION CD-SALES Voice 619-479-8688 10am-7pm PST


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From: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN                      Number: 5493
  To: DAN GUILLORY                             Date: 10/01/93  4:13a
Subj: Review of STAREware                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DG> cc> Excellent! I would freq them if the sysop would put them up.

 DG> They are available right now... Freq away!

Yep, I know. However just a note to everybody else who might freq them. Make
sure you use the full file name. I tried initially using the file name and an
asterisk wildcard for the extension. On most of them I got an arj file of the
correct name that was nothing but an ad for the bbs. If you use the full
filename (pgg1.zip) then the proper file will be sent.

I appreciate your allowing Bob to put them on your system, Dan. Thanks.

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From: PETE BOUDREAU                          Number: 5494
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/01/93  6:12a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOGS                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you sell CD-ROMS please send a catalog to the following address:

Pete Boudreau
6841 Laronda Ln
Las Vegas, NV 89115

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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 5495
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 09/29/93  4:22p
Subj: CD's 4-Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 KP> Jets and Props....................$19.00
What's this CD about?


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5496
  To: CATALINO ALVAREZ                         Date: 09/30/93  8:47p
Subj: Re: Buying Used CD's                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Catalino Alvarez to All <=-

 CA> Get rid of those CD's that you don't use anymore and are collecting
 CA> dust! Contact me.  Interested in EVERYTHING from games to educational

Chestnut Ham Radio + O'Conner Shareware + Mega DEMO (w/cd benchmarks).
$13 shipped anywhere in U.S. Reply if interested.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5497
  To: MARTIN BELCKE                            Date: 09/30/93  8:52p
Subj: Re: HACKERS WORLD MONSTER-I             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting MARTIN BELCKE to KD4QZZ HARRY <=-

 -> MB>               YOU NEED HACKERS WORLD
 -> MB>                    MONSTER-I CD

Haven't heard back from 'ya. Still interested in having a review done on
your CD? Your choice...

... Danger, MARTIN BELCKE!  Off-topic messages!  Danger!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5498
  To: GARY GILMORE                             Date: 09/30/93  8:56p
Subj: Re: Review of non-porn CDs              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Gary Gilmore to Lois Frankel <=-

 GG> How about reviews of non-porno CDs.

 LF> I agree completely! But not all cd-rom purchasers are sysops, so reviews
 LF> that address non-BBS issues would also be useful.

 GG> Very true.  I'd like to see Bob address non-porn as well.

 GG> <aside to Bob>  I think you do a good job with your porn reviews.  How
 GG> about expanding them to include non-porn as well.

I'm willing to give it a shot if a dealer or publisher will provide them
for that purpose. Any takers??

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5499
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/30/93  8:59p
Subj: Re: Starvector Software                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Kirk Reeves <=-
 KR>At least a $1,000 dollars worth before the end of the year.
 MS> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 MS> ALL RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I like you Kirk.  8)

You keep talking like this and folks will think you're in it for the
money, Mike.

... On the subject of SEX: I'm in favor of it.
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From: RICK CASIMIR                           Number: 5500
  To: DAN GUILLORY                             Date: 09/30/93 11:45p
Subj: WHATS UP                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HEY BUDDY, WHATS UP. HAVE"NT HEARD FROM YOU LATELY. CALL ME FOR THE NEW
OCTOBERS PRICE LIST. I DID"NT WRITE DOWN FAX # OR YOUR PHONE #. SO I"LL
BE WAITING.

                                         LATER
                                         RICK CASIMIR

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From: PHILLIP DAMPIER                        Number: 5501
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/30/93 10:22a
Subj: BIG CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 >  Consumer Information Disc.....37.50

Could you give me an idea of what is on this one?  It sounds quite interesting
but vague.

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From: CLIFF NYSTROM                          Number: 5502
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/30/93  6:47p
Subj: CD trade!                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Will trade my copy of the National Geographic Picture Atlas of the World
for MS Multimedia Beethoven or other MS title. This CD is brand new. I
haven't even seen it for sale here yet. If you loved the format of
National Geographic Mammals then you will like this also. Leave me
e-mail with a phone number if you are interested in trading.

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5503
  To: BRIAN GREENDAHL                          Date: 10/01/93  2:44a
Subj: Re: cdrom info                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    can anyone recomend a good cd-rom to buy for a multi-line bbs

Have several to chose from Brian, both in NEW and Refurb versions.

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week
at 216-225-3263 and we'll be glad to help.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5504
  To: DAVID FATTAHIAN                          Date: 10/01/93  2:44a
Subj: Re: Mac CD's Wanted                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Does anybody out there have any Mac CD's they're selling?  Am
>>    especially looking for a copy of Virtual Valerie and the
>>    Journeyman Project, but am interested in anything Mac.

We'll be happy to help you Dave, as we do have a number of MAC titles in
stock> We also have the all NEW Journeyman Project, SUPER GAME !!

Interested, call us at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to
assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Every Silver lining has a clone around it.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5505
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/01/93  2:44a
Subj: CDROM SPECIALS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00  Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare   - $379.00  NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $249.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $739.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1169.  -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms Bare Dr - $369.00  Texel Ext 245ms Bare  - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int 3021 Bare  Dr - $189.00  Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $389.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00  Mitsumi w/Sound Card  - $325.00 -PRPR
 Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50.  ALL ChestNuts CD's $12.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Every Silver lining has a clone around it.
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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 5506
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/29/93 11:55p
Subj: Rimfire ...                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have rimfire pacific for sale.

$24 plus shipping.  I used it once

Call me at (305)782-2631. Leave a message. I will return all messages


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From: BOB LAPIERRE                           Number: 5507
  To: JOHN SAYA                                Date: 09/29/93 11:49p
Subj: Casio Digital Diary                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JS>Ok, here it is again:

JS>I have a Casio Digital Computer Diary that has clock/alarm, world time/map,
JS>memo, schedular, telecommunications/phonebook, reminder, calculator, calenda
JS>and even passwords to keep all of your information safe! There are more
JS>features too, and you can even hook it up to an IBM compatible computer with
JS>an attachment, but I don't own the attachment. It's in excellent condition,
JS>it has the manual and stuff and it's practically hand size. It looks like a
JS>little computer. When it was new it ran for around $150. And it still looks
JS>new! Model SF-4300. Make an offer.

Casio huh?  I DO have the new model (more memory and a PC interface) and
it cost me 75 bucks.

 Bob


 * OLX 2.1 * Don't steal... the government hates competition.


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5508
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 09/30/93  2:30p
Subj: Re: Review of Raincoat CDs              Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

In a message to Bob Jackson <09-24-93 08:27> Arnie Gross wrote:

AG>> (3)  Since Bob Hall does not allow discussion of adult material in
AG>>      the CDROM echo, then this is the only place left - until someone
AG>>      starts an "ADULT ENTERTAINMENT" echo.  This would be MY choice.

Kinda true and kinda not true -- Bob has rescinded the 'Ban' but hopes that in
depth discussions remain in this echo--Adult advertising is allowable via the
10 line limit, and all he askes is that the ads are pumped out there sparingly
so as not to dominate the echo--The Australians rely on that echo for sales
info, and as long as we distribs don't abuse our rights there, Bob will turn
his head :) A very fine WIN-WIN situo--if you ask me :)

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 5509
  To: STEVE PESANT                             Date: 09/30/93  3:26p
Subj: CAnadian People CD-ROM dealers          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks Steve.

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 5510
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 09/30/93  3:27p
Subj: Stuff                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey,  Umm,  How about 7th Guest on CD-rOM,  how much?

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From: PETER RALLIS                           Number: 5511
  To: GREG ISOKRARI                            Date: 09/28/93  4:02a
Subj: Starvector Software                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 27 Sep 93  20:29:18 Bob Hay graced us with these words of wisdom:
 GI> Mike Shannon posted the price list for Starvector Software and I was
 GI> wondering if anyone had ever ordered from there???  Are they a decent
 GI> place to buy from?

Mike has given me excellent service each time I have had dealings with 
him and all but one of the discs I have ordered have been delivered in a 
matter of three to six days which leads me to believe that he has most 
of the listed titles in stock.

peter...

... 20/20 vision is useless if our mind is blind to what we see.
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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 5512
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/29/93  7:28a
Subj: BOOKS STILL IN PRINT                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What is the Name of, Price and producer of the CDROM that lists all the PRINT
books that are currently in print?
I fear that it is overly expensive as it appears to sold only to book dealers.

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From: BILL ALEXANDER                         Number: 5513
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/30/93  5:28p
Subj: Re: Catalog                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris,

Will give you a call very soon!!

Thanks a bunch! ;^)

Bill

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From: DON HOOKER                             Number: 5514
  To: SAL PEDONE                               Date: 09/30/93 10:09p
Subj: Wanted comptons                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi SAl, just wanted to let you know that the  CD arrived today and
everything is fine. Thanx for your promptness and it was a pleasure
doing business with you.... Don
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From: HOWARD ONEIL                           Number: 5515
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/30/93  8:08a
Subj: Cash & Trade Deal Desperately Wanted    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                    CASH & TRADE DEAL DESPERATELY WANTED                      
                    ------------------------------------                      
                                                                              
  I have a Seagate ST251 with a Western Digital, WD-1003SR-2 RLL controller to
make the drive a 65meg.  I was asking $80.00 for both, but would prefer making
a trade arrangement, for other hardware, perhaps a CDROM, VGA Monitor or 3/486
Upgradable motherboard with at least 1 VL Bus slot, CACHE not necessary.
                                                                              
  I have RLL'ed and MFM this drive without problems while using this and other
controllers, (this being a 16 bit format and can't forsee future problems).

  The controller will address a SINGLE floppy drive of ANY type or PAIR of HD
-drives.  From day one however, it has refused to function with more than one
floppy drive.  Perhaps due to the type or manner in which my cables were hooked
up, I dont know!                                                              
                                                                               

  If ANYONE is interested, in these as a pair, let me know and we can arrange a
swap.   I have the original box that the Seagate drive came in, which has a
side pocket where controller was also shipped.  A NO D.O.A. and COMPATABILITY
guarentee with ANY SINGLE floppy or pairs of HD drives applies with these and I
will include a copy of Disk Manager with it.                                  
                                                                              
I'm presently using the drive, but can have it out in a day.                  
                                                                              
Howard                                                                        

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From: JESSE SCHMELZER                        Number: 5516
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/29/93 12:14a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES #1 FOR SALE             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message on <25-Sep-93 10:16:06> Pat Rickerson (1:160/9) wrote:

 PR> Hello Bob!

 MS>>>> |   BUSTY BABES vol 1 release 1 FOR SALE!   |

 PR>>> I have BB#1 also was wondering if you know any one that would be
 PR>>> interresred it will take trade's, thank's

 PR> Are you interrested inthis CD have it and ready to trade or sell
 PR> 512-939-9822

 PR> Pat

 PR> --- GoldED 2.40
 PR>  * Origin: Thin Ice BBS * Corpus Christi, Texas (1:160/9)

I might be interested in it how much and what would ya trade for??

 Jesse

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 5517
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/29/93  9:51p
Subj: CD's\For Sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PR>Microsoft Small Business Consultant & Micresoft Stat Pack
PR>Microsoft Bookshelf Dos Version
PR>These two cd's aren't doing me any good but thought maybe some one may want
PR>trade me for them, will sell them if you perfer.

   Tell me about the first CD you list above.
   What are you looking to trade for?
   How much would you like for the above CD's each?
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ Another Message from Words `R Us


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5518
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/28/93 12:57p
Subj: REVIEW OF RAINCOAT CDS                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Unless Tim yells at  me to stop, or I get too many
>"flames" , I plan to continue with my  reviews.

Please continue them!


 * SLMR 2.1a * Democracy can withstand anything but Democrats.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5519
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/29/93 11:55a
Subj: REVIEW OF STAREWARE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>OK, tell you what I'll try to do. I can (with some effort) OCR them back into
>electronic form. After that, I'll see if the sysop of this BBS (Dan Guillory -
>a sterling fellow) will put them in an area where they can be freq-ed

If he won't, I'll be glad to make them FREQable....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Paranoia (n): the belief that this tagline is about you.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5520
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/30/93  8:17p
Subj: Review of Raincoat CDs                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Yes! By now you should've (or soon will) see a post from Dan Guillory, the
sysop of this (see bottom) BBS. He's put a ZIPped version of all my past
reviews on his system and set up a special account for folks that want to
download them that doesn't require a password. If you're a sysop, they can
also be freq-ed from here. I'd appreciate any further comments you might have
after you've read a few more. Cheers!

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From: COREY BICCUM                           Number: 5521
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/30/93  7:57p
Subj: Return to Zork                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey does anyone know if this game is out yet?  Saw a write up on it and it
looks incredible.  If anyone knows where I can get it or when it comes out let
me know please!!

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From: STEVE PESANT                           Number: 5522
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 10/01/93  2:25p
Subj: Re: Lowest CD-Rom Prices                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Jim Lambert to All <=-

 JL> Compare our prices to anyone and you will see that we are a serious 
 JL> competitor in the CD-Rom market.  We now sell over 600 titles in many 
 JL> different categories for the largest selection available.  If you see
 JL> a  lower price on any non-closeout title, bring it to us and we will
 JL> beat  it!  Download CATALOG1.ZIP for the list sorted by titles or
 JL> CATALOG2.ZIP  for the list sorted by category. 

        Hi there Jim...Looks and Sounds Impressive...Is there anyway that 
 you can FREQ the CATALOG1.ZIP over to me through Fido at 1:153/217? If you
 can that would be great!!

 -=Cheers=-
        Steve.


... DOS never says "EXCELLENT command or filename"...
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.11

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From: SEAN RANDOLPH                          Number: 5523
  To: THOMAS ALLRED                            Date: 09/30/93  9:54p
Subj: Re: external cd rom for sale cheap      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On Tue 28-Sep-1993  7:38a, Thomas Allred wrote:
TA> i have an external cd rom drive for sale cheap it is a BSR6800MX i dont
TA> have  the controller card but the drive is sold by DAK industries and is
TA> made by  MITSUMI so i am sure one of those companies will sell you a card.
TA> the cd rom  is mine and it works fine the card was stolen along with my
TA> computer that is  why i don't have the card now i bought a new computer an
TA> internal cd-rom
TA>  LOOKING TO SELL CHEAP OR TRADE MAKE ME AN OFFER!!!!

TA> WILL TRADE FOR X-RATED CD ROM TITLES NOT MALE GAY
TA> WILL TRADE FOR 9600 OR FASTER MODEM INTERNAL W/MANUAL
TA> WILL TRADE FOR A NX-1040 PRINTER
TA> WILL TRADE FOR ??????????????????

TA> i will gaurantee the drive to work fine or i will refund your money or
TA> trade



TA>                                                 thomas allred
TA>                                                 305-989-1473  
TA>  

TA> --- SuperBBS 1.17-3 (Reg)
TA>  * Origin: Default origin line (1:135/52)

how about a trade for a 386dx/25 motherboard???

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5524
  To: PETE CRESSWELL@1:273/318                 Date: 09/29/93 12:38p
Subj: MACINTOSH CDROM                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Looking for a CDRom containing MacIntosh shareware/whatever that can be
mounted
>on a TBBS/DOS-based bulletin board.

Garbo (Walnut Creek) should work, though I don't have any .FAR/.DIR files for
it (someone else on Mama Board or in TBBS echo might have them, though)....

Hobbs (also Walnut Creek) should work for your later message asking for a OS/2
related disc (it usually works better overall to put ALL of your requests in
ONE message, BTW).

                              Brice's Library
          exerpts from my CD-ROM Price List 28 September 1993
     All prices include shipping to U.S. and any applicable sales taxes.

                        5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
                            Indianapolis, IN 46220
                             (317) 726-1908 voice
                    (Tu Th 11AM - 8PM  We Fr 11AM - 6PM EST)

 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac                  15   Tao of Cow                        30
 Hobbes OS/2 Archives              16   U.S. History                      29


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5525
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/29/93  2:08p
Subj: REVIEW OF STAREWARE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>You spoke of statute of limitations and that
>sounds like "copyright" (tho' I thought they were good for 99 years - a
l-o-n-g
>statute of limitations

 Apple blatently ripped their interface for the Mac from the Xerox Star.

 Xerox sued them for the violation and had the case thrown out because they
waited too long (8 years or so) after the actual violation....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Revenge is a dish best served cold....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5526
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 09/29/93  5:35p
Subj: REVIEW OF RAINCOAT CDS                  Refer: NONE
Read: 10/03/93  4:43p                       Private: No 

>-> You raise a valid point. Perhaps my reviews of adult CDs annoy more p
>-> this echo than those that find them useful/interesting.

>I think they're great... Keep um coming.

Excellent - the one voice that really matters has spoken!

 8-)


 * SLMR 2.1a * Press ALT-T to adopt me - I NEED a better home!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5527
  To: GREG ISOKRARI                            Date: 09/29/93  5:36p
Subj: STARVECTOR SOFTWARE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Also I have heard there can be a problem sending X-rated CD's to Oklahoma?

Talk to Tony Davis (sysop @ 1:147/5) for the FULL scoop....


 * SLMR 2.1a * I'm as happy as a nursing kitten.

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From: PAUL CAPOZZOLI                         Number: 5528
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/30/93  1:09a
Subj: CD-ROMs                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    Hey whats this about making your own CD-ROM drive that I keep hearing
about...Does anyone have any reliable info on this or is this just another scam
like turning your 2400 modem to 9600 or something !!!

                             CooL aS iCE

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5529
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/30/93 11:38p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

Have some new prices on some CD's

2-left   Compton's Family Encyclopedia  ------  $25
1-left   Languages of the World ------- $17 (with book)
1-left   Shareware Gold ------ $15
1-left   World Atlas --------- $17   (with book) (I got one it is great)
1-left   RBBS --------- $14
1-left   Shareware Qverload ------ $17
1-left   Canadian Shareware ----------$14
1-left   Cook Book Heaven --------$14
1-left   Reference Library ------$17  (with book)  (I got one its great)
1-left   Microsoft Bookshelf -------- $17 (with book)  ( I got one its great)
1-left   Microsoft Small Business ----- $17  (with book) (I got one its great)

One VGA monitor real nice, works great, just upgraded  $135.00
     (Magnavox)

Talked the owner down on these CD's, but this I think is the best I can do.
Call 512-939-9822 if interrested in anything.
Pat

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From: MARC LIMMANY                           Number: 5530
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/30/93  5:34p
Subj: CD Dealers                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To all CD dealers, please add me to your mailing list...
My address is:

Electronic Data Services
1340 Princeton Dr. NE
Albuquerque, NM 87106

Thanks.. and looking forward to doing business to you guys!

Marc Limmany
1:301/29

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5531
  To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                       Date: 10/01/93 10:42a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JD> asking is that if I find  your CD-Rom does not live up to my exp 
JD> based the claims of yourself  and others (IE: anyone else who co 
                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
I resemble this remark! My reviews ALWAYS say that what I write 
represents my opinion and my opinion ONLY. To attempt to hold Lee (or 
any other producer) liable for my remarks is stretching it a bit IMO. 
  
JD> on the specific disk), that I be  allowed to send it back and re 
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
What record store do you shop at? I've never had one that offered to 
take back an audio CD just because I didn't like the contents. I fail to 
see how computer CDs should be treated any differently. 
  
That notwithstanding, several vendors in this echo (Mike Shannon, Boris 
Osadciw, and others) have openly offered to exchange unsatisfactory CDs 
for other selections - WHETHER THEY SOLD THE ORIGINAL CD OR NOT -  and 
they all should be praised for taking that stance. 
  
You sound like one of those types of people who always want someone else 
to be responsible for their own bad decisions. Life ISN'T without risk, 
my friend. As the old woman said: "You pays your money and you takes 
your choice." If you make a purchase (of anything) based on poor or 
inadequate information, that's YOUR problem and no one else's. The only 
exception is in the case of deliberate deception - as in a con job. 
Surely you're not accusing or even suggesting that Lee would do such a 
thing, are you? 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5532
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/01/93 11:03a
Subj:  CD's for Women                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> 69:23/23.                                                         
                                                                       
  
Lee: 
  
What the **** kind of net address is this? 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5533
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 10/01/93 11:05a
Subj: CD-Rom Closeout                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL> Busty Babes Volume 1 Rel 2 
  
For $29.00 I'll take one of these. Let me know if you need address for 
COD of prefer VISA # or whatever. (713) 488-0065 after 6:00 P.M. CDT. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5534
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 10/01/93 11:06a
Subj: CD-Rom Closeout!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JL> Computer Works is having a closeout sale on all adult CD-Roms.    
                                                                       
  
If/when you get to the "dumping" stage, gimme a call. Might be 
interested in a lot purchase. (713) 488-0065 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5535
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/01/93 11:21a
Subj: LATEST SHIPMENT                         Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

You must've used the pony express. Still no package a/o Friday 10/1. Any 
chance of switching to snail priority (i.e. 2nd day)? 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5536
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 10/01/93  8:47a
Subj: Review of STAREware                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TK> came out.  In fact I believe that Storm I was the ONLY disk to c  
 TK> before this one!  If there are any "hits" against your database,  
 TK> that the disks you listed re-hashed the files on StareWare, not   
 TK> other way around.                                                 
                                                                       
  
It is my understanding that Private Pictures pre-dates Storm I and most 
others of its kin, but not to worry. I'm not an adult CD  historian so I 
can't really comment on who's re-hashing whom. Perhaps someone else 
would care to take up that debate, I don't. Also, STAREware is at least 
a "re-release" and IMO a far more insidious one than Rel. 2 or 3 of 
Busty Babes. Florida Lion's Den openly published what was in those 
re-releases, and WHY. STAREware's name change IMPLIES something new or 
at least different in it's contents from its like-named predecessor, 
without a peep from it's producers to the contrary - a sneaky  practice 
at best. 
  
While I am "guilty" of implying that STAREware re-hashes other CDs 
files, my intent was to say simply that its files can be found on other 
CDs as well, and vice-versa. That's why I included the table of "hits" 
by name. Therefore the CUSTOMER doesn't need to buy more than one or two 
of the now so-called "grassroots" adult CDs to have a goodly portion of 
what's out there - certainly enough to be representative of the market. 
Since the files are identical, it falls to other considerations to make 
a difference between CDs and sway one's purchasing decision. That's why 
I've tried to include other type of data/information in my reviews. 
  
I don't claim to be an expert and what I write is only my opinion. If 
you'd care to begin writing your own comprehensive opinions of CDs, 
adult or otherwise, I'm sure the echo would welcome the additional 
input. 
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From: BRETT PARKER                           Number: 5537
  To: GREG ISOKRARI                            Date: 09/30/93  8:42a
Subj: Starvector Software                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Greg Isokrari scribbled in a message to All:

GI> Mike Shannon posted the price list for Starvector Software
GI> and I was wondering if anyone had ever ordered from there???
GI>  Are they a decent place to buy from? 

I have ordered from Mike, I was not too impressed with the gal that took my
order, she kept giving me her opinion on "Adult" cd's, which I didn't think was
very businesslike. I did, however get the cd I ordered, and it arrived faster
than I expected it. Included with the disk (Shareware Online II) was a complete
price and title list of the items Mike carries.
 Overall, I am very satisfied with the service I received, and will order from
him again.

--Brett

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 5538
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 10/01/93  1:33a
Subj: Re: Problem W/Mitsumi                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> By any chance, do you know if either of the disks I've had problems
> with were done on the JVC? They were "Ecstasy Hot Pics" and
> "Smutware".
> If you haven't contacted the makers of those two disks, you might see
> if they've used that unit...
Hi,
Your new unit is on the way or maybe you have already received it. For the
mentioned disks I will try them when I have chance. TTYL
 
Ismail Arslangiray
-= IA =- 

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 5539
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/01/93  2:57a
Subj: OS/2                                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hiya, Mike!
On Sep 29, Mike Shannon spake thusly to Steve Proctor:


 MS> We will in about a week!  CD-OS2Box is being pressed right 
 MS> now, and it will have ONLY version 2.0+ files.  Around 325mb 
 MS> or so, and fully BBS-compatible.  Now taking pre-orders at 
 MS> $29 w/ free shipping, or they are $29 + $4 shipping after 
 MS> released.  This WILL BE the best OS/2 CD on the market!

i called your answering machine and left an order just now, so if you cant
understand me or need more info, call me at 209 229-0473.  thanks!


\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2
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From: HANK PETERSON                          Number: 5540
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/01/93  6:10a
Subj: Industry changes                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (29 Sep 93) Bob Jackson wrote to Hank Peterson...

 BJ> books by Rimmer, Holliday, Christensen, etc., I became more interested
 BJ> in the people and the processes and less interested in the products.

     The processes are a lot more interesting and a real education.
     The hunt for a location to shoot in Los Angeles is worthy of
     a great detective story. The moving equipment in and out of 
     the location can really be a nightmare. Old ladies peeking out
     their windows doing Neighborhood Watch Duty,etc, The couple decide 
     they don't like each other after a dicussion of the Vietnam War,
     over coffee while waiting to shoot. It goes on and on.
     

... There is nothing more cranky than a constripted gorilla

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From: STEAN SNYMAN                           Number: 5541
  To: AVI MILLER                               Date: 09/28/93  8:27a
Subj: info on CD's                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Avi!

Monday September 27 1993, Avi Miller writes to Stean Snyman:

 SS>> VGA SPECTRUM 1
 SS>> DR. MUSIC
 AM> We have both at First Computers in Cape Town. Phone 23-0717. Corner of
 AM> Strand and Long Streets.

Right...  And you'll be there? ;)  Thanks..  I'll call right away..  If I
could only get out of this chair and find my unplugged phone somewhere on this
cluttered desk.... :)

CU
Stean

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From: AVI MILLER                             Number: 5542
  To: STEAN SNYMAN                             Date: 09/27/93  8:06p
Subj: info on CD's                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Stean!

Monday September 27 1993 16:53, Stean Snyman wrote to All:

 SS> VGA SPECTRUM 1
 SS> DR. MUSIC

We have both at First Computers in Cape Town. Phone 23-0717. Corner of Strand
and Long Streets.

-= Avi =-

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From: DAVE RYDER                             Number: 5543
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 09/28/93 11:31p
Subj: CAnadian People CD-ROM de               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Message entered on Sep 25,93 by DARREN SELLNER to ALL
***********************************************************************
DS> HI I was wondering if there was any Canadian CD-rOM dealers and how much
DS> could they get me 7th Guest for Canadian.

    Darren, I understand that CD-Rom Wholesalers of Canada, in Regina has
    it for $75.00 Can. without box or tape.  Their number is
    (306) 789-4654 voice.

    No affiliation, just a Canadian customer.


***Dave.
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From: DAVE RYDER                             Number: 5544
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 09/28/93 11:31p
Subj: CDROM FOR-SALE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Message entered on Sep 23,93 by DAVE PERKOVICH to MIKE BRAUN
***********************************************************************
DP> Have you tried the Mitusmi drivers for OS/2?  I have them if you'd
DP> like - also, they will be appearing on the "OS/2Box" - Damar Enterprises'
DP> OS/2 shareware CD-ROM.

DP> Dave Perkovich
DP> Damar Enterprises Software
DP> The CD PowerBox Guys!

    Dave, which OS/2 Mitsumi driver is on the CD?


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From: DAVE RYDER                             Number: 5545
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/28/93 11:31p
Subj: Re: SPECIAL                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Message entered on Sep 24,93 by BORIS OSADCIW to DAVE RYDER
***********************************************************************
>>   Boris, is this number available from Canada?  From (416) I
>>   receeived a message indicating that it was not available from
>>   this calling area.

BO> This has been fixed as of today, so you and everyone else in CANADA can
BO> NOW ORDER DIRECT using the our TOLL FREE number. This is of cource an
BO> ORDER LINE ONLY, so you'll need to know what you want when you place your
BO> order. We will not be taking catalog request nor will we provide product
BO> pricing information. If you wish to the the later, we suggest you call us
BO> at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist that way.

    Thanks Boris.


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5546
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/30/93  2:56p
Subj: BBSCON                                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

>BF> * SLMR 2.1a * Australia: where men are men and sheep are nervous....

>Oh man . . . had me ROFL for 5 minutes!!

De nada....

 8-)

>Had to steal it

No problem - I forget where I first heard it, and have seen more than a few
varients on the idea already....

> * SLMR 2.1a * Iraq:  Where men are men and sheep are nervous.

Your OZ customers might like the "New Zeland" varient....

 8-)


 * SLMR 2.1a * The Earth is about to end - do you have YOUR towel?

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5547
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/30/93  4:05p
Subj: REVIEW OF STAREWARE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>The gov't is monitoring all online environments
>for as much info into this arena--There is gonna be a sting, when the gov't
>knows what/how to best use what they know--

I suspect the Feds are REAL ticked at the Oklahoma folks over the Tony Davis
case right now....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Those who ignore history have no future.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5548
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/30/93  4:08p
Subj: ADULT CD ROM'S                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Oh, please do! There's still an argument going over whether that's you on the
>cover of BB or Ecstasy.

Having met Lee at the One BBS Con, I can state definitevely that the lassie on
the cover of Busty Babes is NOT her....


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 5549
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/02/93  4:21p
Subj: Busty Babes for Sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Busty Babes the one with Bam Bam on it, It's BB #1, Will sell to the 
highest Bid.

                      

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From: MIKE SHEPARD                           Number: 5550
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 10/02/93  6:33a
Subj: CDROM SPECIALS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BO> **************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
 Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI

Helo Boris,
 Sorry to cut your nice ad up so badly but space is costly here...I am planning
on adding a few more cd-roms to my system and these would fit the bill just
nicely..need to know if the terminating resistors are removable and if these
units will live other than as last drive on the chain. The reason for asking is
I've Toshiba 32xx model that refuses to live anyplace else.
 THank You 
 Mike

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From: MIKE BRITT                             Number: 5551
  To: THOMAS ALLRED                            Date: 09/30/93  8:40p
Subj: Re: External Cd Rom Drive For Sale Chea  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TA> i have an external cd rom drive model BSR6800MX i dont have 
 TA> the controller card but the drive is sold by DAK industries 
 TA> and it is made by MITSUMI so i am sure one of those 
 TA> companies will sell the controller card i have an internal 
 TA> cd rom drive and have no use fot it i will gaurantee it to 
 TA> work perfectly of i will refund your money i am accepting 
 TA> offer's or i will trade for the following
 TA> xxxrated adult cd rom titles (not male gay)
 TA> 9600 or faster modem
 TA> nx1040 color printer
 TA>                                         thanks
 TA>                                      thomas allred
 TA> please reply here i am on every day or two to check my 
 TA> messages thanks  


     tOM,

        I called DAK and they said that they could not sell the controller
seperate. I will offer ya $50 for the drive, since I have one with an external
connection that may allow it to work.

                                                  Mike

Sphinx EM/v5.0 * Why can't women remember to put the toilet seat back up?

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From: BRUCE COPPIN                           Number: 5552
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 10/02/93  7:29p
Subj: Re: Canadian cd-rom source              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can you provide the US dollar price for CD Rom Mixed Up Mother Goose.
Thanks.  Also it might help to list both Canadian and American prices?

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 5553
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 10/02/93 12:42a
Subj: Dealers Wanted!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested.
Send me some info and what kind of prices you have.
 
thanks
Scott Raley

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 5554
  To: RICHARD VONZEL                           Date: 10/02/93 12:46a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVES FOR SALE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Could I get one for $125?]
 
SCott Raley

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 5555
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 10/02/93 12:47a
Subj: CD's 4/sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like the Lucious Ladies cd, will offer you $25 or trade you for a new
cd, T&A to the Max, which is adult from profit press, just out, with gifs,
animations,text files and more.
 
Scott Raley

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5556
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 10/01/93  9:35p
Subj: CD's\For Sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Gene!

29 Sep 93, Gene Ehrich writes to Pat Rickerson:


 PR>> Microsoft Small Business Consultant & Micresoft Stat Pack
 PR>> Microsoft Bookshelf Dos Version
 PR>> These two cd's aren't doing me any good but thought maybe some one may
 PR>> want trade me for them, will sell them if you perfer.

 GE>    Tell me about the first CD you list above.
 GE>    What are you looking to trade for?
 GE>    How much would you like for the above CD's each?

I have the books for them, and this is a little of what the books are about:
financial planning, federal regs. , management, selling, loss, trade,
goverment, dictionary, thesaurus, encyclodedia, world atlas, spreedsheets,
accounting ect..  one book is about 80 pages the other is only 18 or so.

Will need to get $45 for these two CD's as I know they are worth a lot more,
you would really have to read the books to really know how much more they can
do.
Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5557
  To: JESSE SCHMELZER                          Date: 10/01/93  9:49p
Subj: BUSTY BABES #1 FOR SALE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Jesse!

29 Sep 93, Jesse Schmelzer writes to Pat Rickerson:

 JS> I might be interested in it how much and what would ya trade for??

 JS>  Jesse

This CD has gone up and down so much in price I really don't know what it is
worth! But I got to the point where if someone wants it I would trade it for
one Full tower And 2 meg (70s). If I can't get that I will hold on to it until
we all find out if the prices everyone is offering is really true or not.
(maybe need a 386dx40 and 2 meg or the above) I know this sounds crazy but
seems like a lot of people have gone nuts over this CD (or maybe its just a
few) but I do have two so would let one go.
512-939-9822
Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5558
  To: CATALINO ALVAREZ                         Date: 10/01/93 10:05p
Subj: Buying Used CD's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Bob!


 -=>> Quoting Catalino Alvarez to All <=-

 CA>> Get rid of those CD's that you don't use anymore and are collecting
 CA>> dust! Contact me.  Interested in EVERYTHING from games to educational

World Atlas
RBBS
Shareware gold2
Shareware overload
Software toolworks
Languages of the world
Compton's En.
Canadian Shareware

How much do you offer?
512-939-9822

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5559
  To: JOHN ENGLAND                             Date: 10/01/93 10:28p
Subj: Mitsumi 300ms                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello John!

 PR> 25 Sep 93, John England writes to Pat Rickerson:

 JE>> Hi, Pat ! I left you a message yesterday about the CD-ROM drive. I did
 JE>> yaWreceive the check and I sent the CD-ROM drive via UPS on Friday.
 JE>> You should get it sometime next week. Please let me know if you don't
 JE>> ^nget it

It has been a week and still no drive. Whats up, did it get returned to you?
My address is
 411 Ninth St. Nas
Corpus Christi, Tx 78418    is this how you sent it as the Ninth should be
spelled out, sure hope I get it soon but can't understand that it has taken
over a week by UPS please check into this as it was a birthday gift for my
12year old! (he checks every day when he comes home from school to see if it is
in, driving me crazy!)    512-939-9822

Pat


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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 5560
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/02/93  2:00p
Subj: Buyer Beware!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi all, I really hate to do this but I given this about as much time as
I care to.

This warning is concerning dealings with CD's & More run by Peyton
Norman of Pensacola, FL.

In July, I arranged a trade of (2) brand new ST3600NM 510 meg SCSI hard
drives for 34 CDROM disks.  I received 27 disks and was told the others
were out of stock but would be sent out shortly.  After repeated
attempts to reach Mr. Norman by phone, NETMAIL, and SNAILMAIL I have not
received the missing 7 disks.

Before dealing with Peyton Norman in the future I would recommend you
remember this warning!!!!!!!!


James Porter
St Petersburg, FL
 þ OLX 3.10 31-0461 þ ... if(crash) grab_ankles();kiss_xxx_goodbye()


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From: GARY GILMORE                           Number: 5561
  To: ALL DEALERS                              Date: 10/02/93  2:48a
Subj: Need a CD                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for the cheapest price on the "Shareware Vault/Gold" CDROM.

Please NETMAIL your prices, and policies to me at the node below.
Include any additional charges for S&H, COD, etc.

Thanks.

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5562
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 10/01/93  5:02p
Subj: Re: Starvector Software                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Dave Reed <09-30-93 01:00> Daniel Hagan wrote:

DH>> Wow Dave <ninny>!  That's *SOME* statement <Libel>...if I ran
DH>> something called "GroupWare" <call a lawyer> I'd probably consider
DH>> some serious actions <big bucks defamation of character case> here
DH>> unless you have something <a prayer or hard copy evidence> that
DH>> backs-up your claim like <snow balls chance...>:

Ahhhh..not to butt in, but 'Groupware' would have to prove they in fact have
damages from this 'Defamation'--It's not that easy to sue..they would have to
prove loss of business etc, as a direct result of the 'libel'
comment--Something that is not easy to do--So was this defamation, or ones
right to freedom of speech ?

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5563
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 10/01/93  5:08p
Subj: Re: Industry changes                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-29-93 19:52> Daniel Hagan wrote:

DH>> I'm not into publishing, but have read most of the stuff you have
DH>> typed in here.  I doubt XXX stuff will ever be "out of circulation"
DH>> or underground as your previous message indicated.  Publishers ought
DH>> to be hammering their amendment rights..

We wish it were that simple, and this is why one needs a considerable amount of
bucks in a legal contingency fund, so that they can spend it arguing protection
under first ammendment--But it does not work that way, first ammendment does
not cover 'XXX' material, those things that are not covered under 1st
ammendment are considered obscenity--

DH>> entire backend of computer shopper and all of the other magazines
DH>> will be deleted in the near future?

Don't have a crystal ball, but I feel those that distribs that take a moment
and evaluate their risks, may not go as high visibility in such mags--Several
are already discontinuing these types of disc's for the same reasons I have
mentioned in this echo--

DH>> A more accurate statement might be that everyone is about to get
DH>> burned for scanning copyrighted movies and mags and will drop to the
DH>> wayside for those activities.

Been already burned--That was the boom of 1993, and obscenity busts will be
1994--

Its not pleasant when reality comes knocking--Don't believe what I say, I am
merely relaying the what's going on from within inside distribution--

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5564
  To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                       Date: 10/01/93  8:34p
Subj: Opinions                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-29-93 13:43> Jean-Claude Demars wrote:

JD>> What concerns me is
JD>> that you are not  willing to stand behind your product.  I'm not

Your speaking of the 'Industry' in general, yes ? Just wanted to clarify this
so others following along don't misunderstand and feel like you and I
personally have unfinished business :)

JD>>  What I was asking is that if I find  your CD-Rom does not live up to
JD>> my expectation based the claims of yourself  and others (IE: anyone
JD>> else who comments on the specific disk), that I be  allowed to send
JD>> it back and request a refund.  Your asking people to buy  somthing
JD>> sight unseen, telling the consumer that if you don't like it once you
JD>>  see it, oh well.

Do you still feel this way with the record industry--I can't count the CD's I
bought because I fell in love with a song, just to find the other 9 cuts
lousy--OH well, is about where I shelve it--

Do you loiter around the mag racks and read the mag cover to cover before buy
it? I know what your saying, but give us publishers a little more credit then
that......Buying CD's are a risk, and there is no way around that
really......but there are also those that could buy the disc, dupe the material
and then want their money back--Somebody has to trust somebody along the
way.....The consumer should ask questions, and the distribs should be able to
make earnest recommendations to you--If your buying into a T&A disc, and it
contains 100% T&A, then how could you go wrong ? If you buy into all swimsuits,
and all the images are swimsuit, how were you mislead--If you communicate your
preferences clearly to a distrib, all they
can do is recommend in a 'General' matter of fact--But if it has only 3%
redheads and that is your preference, then was the disapointment a reflection
of the publisher ? Are you entitiled to a refund ? I don't think so---

I understand what your saying, I am just trying to say, we can only market in
generalities, and if I say for example 'Busty Babes Vol II', had 1,000 original
scans, 200 MB of shareware, and it is a "XX" disc (no penetration shots), and
an interactive image viewer to toy with the magnification of the image, and you
purchase it, and find I did as I said--Is it now a matter of personal
preference, or did I deliver as a publisher ??

As we state in our magazine ads for Dec, using BB II as the example:

"Professional photography that captures the artisitic appreciation of the
female body"

Now, call me a liar <big grin>--I'm not nutbusting here, I sympathize with your
throwing bad money after bad for CD's that let you down--Believe me, they are
out there.....I can only speak for myself, and I hope the industry cleans up it
act, so that folks don't have to be so 'Buyer Aware' all tthe time.

JD>> I'm sure I would love it and keep it, but if your idea of
JD>> beauty and  mine are totally different
nt, then there is a chance that it JD>> would not be what I
JD>> was looking for.

Agreed. I never make those kinda claims, and that is a good point. There are
some that do, and that could be misleading--just to find these women to be the
ugliest dogs in the world--If your preference is specific, then you may be the
kind os shopper, that needs to borrow a friends first to eval it. If you just
like nude women, then that in itself is a form of beauty.

What are you looking for, maybe I can recommend some titles to you.

JD>> You've told me about how much money you have
JD>> invested in the  disk, yet you would not invest in pictures you could
JD>> not see, based on the  photographer saying "Yea, there great"...

Ahh, yes we did, we got 10 images as sample works, and had no choice over the
1800 sent us from which we picked 1,000.

JD>> I've been a consumer for awhile and have learned (at my expense I
JD>> might add)  to be careful what one spends his money one.  I'm sure
JD>> your disk is a good  value if one finds the all original work on it
JD>> to there tastes, but what I'm  not sure is your taste and mine are
JD>> the same.

This is true---Buyers of adult CD's, just tend to be laid back and enjoy the CD
media, as long as the material is fresh and new--If they don't like it, they
trade or resell--There is no way of knowing if the CD will be a preference
match--

What do your recommend we do to help the consumer? I'm game if it will make a
difference--Sincerely, what would be your preference on a T&A disc? I will
answer truthfully using BB II--Let's give it a whirl..

I don't want the sale, I want to explore your concerns, and you have presented
me with this opportunity--Cuz' if I can do anything to help the end user
understand what they are buying, I am front and center.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5565
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 10/01/93  8:37p
Subj: Re: Adult CD ROM's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-30-93 06:38> Frank Gresh wrote:

FG>> Lee, I have a terrific sense of humor, and I encourage bantering with
FG>> fiesty females, matter of fact it's a favorite passtime of mine.

<wink>......I feel better, because I can rip off some zingers :))) It's all in
the name of fun :)))


FG>> However the problem I have with all of this regulation is once again,
FG>> why does the goverment regulate what I can look at and what I can't,
FG>> they don't censor the religious programs on TV, and I hate them, but
FG>> giving me the opportunity to join in this neverending discussion.

Agreed. But it takes much bucks just so you can say this before a judge and
jury, unfortunately :)

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5566
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 10/02/93  7:22a
Subj: REVIEW OF STAREWARE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Yea, you're right. I recall all that Apple/Xerox stuff. Still, patents  are
supposed to last 35 years but copyrights much longer, maybe not 99  but longer
than 35. My company just went through this discussion. That  doesn't jibe with
the Xerox decision, I know. Maybe there was something  more there than
copyrights. Oh well, <EOT> since this is off-topic. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5567
  To: HANK PETERSON                            Date: 10/02/93  7:53a
Subj: Re: Industry changes                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Hank Peterson to Bob Jackson <=-
 HP> The hunt for a location to shoot in Los Angeles is worthy of
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Must be why one sees the same villa being used over and over again (:>

 HP> their windows doing Neighborhood Watch Duty,etc, The couple
 HP> decide  they don't like each other after a dicussion of the
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That's rich! Perhaps that contributes to some of the "spite sex" that's
so obvious in some films.

Guess this is a bit off-topic so this'll be <EOT>. Thanks for the
comments.

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From: WAYNE HUNT                             Number: 5568
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/01/93 11:15a
Subj: CD-ROM duplicates?                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi,

    I realize that this may be a bit off topic, but I really have
nowhere else to ask..  My quick question is this, is there a Duplicate
filefinder avaiable out there which can handle CD-ROMS? correctly?  I
have tried using several (DFL, Finddupe, etc.) PD listers to no avail,
because of the vast number of directories, they either lock up or give
bad information.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely

Wayne Hunt
ApathyWare, Inc.


... Ever wonder why Oprah spelled backwards is Harpo?
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From: RAJ NARANSAMY                          Number: 5569
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/28/93  7:00a
Subj: catalogs                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HI

I am the sysop of EDUCARE BBS and would appreciate copies of your catalogs.

You may mail them to the following adress:

Raj Naransamy
EDUCARE BBS
P.O. Box 667
LENASIA
1820 Rep of S. Africa


Thanks
Raj

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From: GEOFF REED                             Number: 5570
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 09/28/93 12:22a
Subj: Sb Pro-compatible Cd-rom                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

<<***** On 09-21-93, Daniel Hagan wrote to John Little: *****>>
DH>Is that the name of the sound board (Sound Pro FX)?  I haven't seen
DH>anything 
DH>with that name in the catalogs.
  
  Daniel, the Aztech Labs Sound Galaxy NX-Pro-EXTRA card supports panasonic
AND Mitsumi CD-Rom drives directly, plus SCSI CD-ROMS with a SCSI adaptor
that plugs onto the end of the card.  if you're interested, I can get a
price and let ya know what it'd cost ya :)
 
 
                                                           
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From: JASON ALEXANDER                        Number: 5571
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/01/93 10:42p
Subj: any good deals out there                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hello out there....i'm looking for a really good deal on a "close to the
top of the line" cd-rom kit w/ discs...i've seen really bad prices on
even worse cd-roms...looking for a 290 kb access speed at least....photo
ready.....educational cd discs etc.....starter kit with manuals...i know
there a very slim chance but if there is any out there who knows of a
place or person who has the above for less than $375.00 , please drop me
a line.......almost forgot...it also needs a good sound board...i have a
8 bit sound blaster compatible now and would like a better sound out put


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5572
  To: CAM LIRONDELLE                           Date: 10/02/93 12:50a
Subj: Re: Cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Hi I was wondering if you could send me your dealer price list
>>    for all your cd roms and acc.

Sure will, as soon as you can fax us your business licence.

Our fax number is 216-225-6759 or you can call us voice at 216-225-3263
to discuss the matter further.

Looking forward to hearing from you soon.....

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5573
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 10/02/93 12:50a
Subj: Re: CD_ROM                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Not sure if it was you or not, but I believe you advertised a
>>    CD_ROM player about a week or so ago that was able to run
>>    under OS/2 and was multimedia compliant in the $230 range?
>>    Could you repost the specs and name of that one as I am
>>    interested in purchasing a CD_ROM player and a few discs.
>>    Also, if you have that drive what type(s) of sound boards work
>>    with it best and whetehr or not the CD Player itself can plug
>>    into one of the slots on the sound board.  Thanks....

Uhmmmm, well there's several of them at that price range, both in new and
refurbished condition.

It might be better if you call us direct and we can discuss it better that
way as you do have several options open to you and we could provide you with
better information that way.

Please feel free to give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week
and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 5574
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 09/29/93  3:48p
Subj: cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JJ> PC Karaoke 20.00

I'll take it, let me know if you want check or MO.  If you want to send
COD I'll give $2 shipping and $3 for COD for a total of $25 to:

Chris Snyder
RR4 Box 306
West Frankfort, IL 62896
(618)932-2766

I buy and sell a lot of stuff in the message bases so if you send it,
know that I'll pay for it and you won't get caught with a ship charge.
 
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 5575
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 09/30/93  2:49p
Subj: Cd for sale.                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS>Includes: TST's World Atlas, US Atlas, Reference Library and the game
SF>                                        Let me if you want to trade,
SF>                                        Sam Figueroa

Already sold thanks anyway.
 
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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 5576
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 10/01/93  7:51a
Subj: Re: Review of Raincoat CDs              Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 AG> (2)  It would be much appreciated if someone would grab the reins and
 AG>      review the NON-XXX discs as well.  Shareware and commercial releases
 AG>      are abundant, but we have no data for comparison before purchase.

I'd be willing to review a couple if someone would care to donate them for
evaluation.


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From: ADRIAN SALAS                           Number: 5577
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/01/93  9:07p
Subj: OCTOBER CD-ROM CATALO 1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

      ***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************

                            NIGHT OWL 10

                               39.00

                  650+ Megabytes of Fully BBS Ready files


   ******************* UPDATED PRICE LIST ***********************
                        October 1, 1993

SUPER CD 1................ 22.00    SUPER CD 2............... 29.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 2....... 30.00    SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3...... 35.00
NIGHTOWL 9................ 32.00    NIGHTOWL 8............... 29.00
SOUNDWAV.................. 26.95    SHAREWARE EXTRAVAGANZA... 55.00
PC-S1G 12................. 41.50    SOFTWARE VAULT........... 28.00
DESKTOP PUBLISHERS DREAM.. 39.50    TIME DESERT STORM........ 29.95
PC MEDIC.................. 32.50    CICA WINDOWS (AUGUST).... 39.00
VGA SPECTRUM v2........... 19.00    CD-CADDYS................ 4.50
DR. WINODOWS...............22.00    DR. GAMES................ 22.00
DR. MUSIC................. 22.00    DR. SHAREWARE............ 22.00
Americas Premire.......... 18.75    Gigabyte Gold............ 36.50
Phoenix Version 3.0....... 19.50    Shareware Avalnche....... 39.00
Sharware Galore........... 37.50    Sharware Overloard....... 37.50
Shareware Tiger........... 39.00    World Vision............. 79.00
Window Master............. 39.00    Software Vault GOLD...... 35.00

************************** ADULT TITLES ***************************
       Note: You must be 21 or over to purchase these titles

ECTASY HOT PICS........... 35.00    BUSTY BABES.............. 35.00
ASIAN LADIES.............. 35.00    PC PIX 3................. 35.00
PORKWARE 2................ 35.00    HOT HUNKS................ 35.00
LUCIOUS LADIES............ 35.00    EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2...... 35.00
Beach Babes............... 39.00    Animation Fantasies 1.... 39.00
Animation Fantasies 2..... 39.00    Gay/Bi/Lesbians.......... 39.00
Giffy Girls Gold.......... 39.00    Hot Pix 4................ 39.00
Hot Pix 5................. 39.00    My Private Collection 1.. 29.00
My Private Collection 2... 39.00    PC PIX 1................. 39.00
PC PIX 2.................. 39.00    PC PIX 3................. 39.00
Porkware 1................ 39.00    Private Pictures......... 36.00
Stareware................. 34.00    Storm 1 ................. 28.00
Storm 2................... 39.00    Storm 3.................. 41.00
Wicked.................... 69.00
************************ CLIPART **********************************

Clip Art Galore........... 25.00    Clip Art Goliath......... 25.00
Corel ArtShow............. 79.00    Font Fun House........... 39.00
Lovely Ladies 2........... 39.00    Media Clips Business..... 29.00
Media Clips Island........ 29.00    Media Clips Jets......... 29.00
Media Clips Majestic...... 29.00    Media Clisp Money........ 29.00
Media Clips Wild.......... 29.00    Media Clips World........ 29.00
Mediasource.............. 289.00    Mediasource 2........... 289.00
Mediasource Historical... 289.00    Mother Earth 2........... 29.00
Quick Artline............ 219.00    SoMuch Screenware........ 35.00
Electronic Library of Art  69.50

*********************** BUSINESS & REFERENCE **********************

Atlas of US Presidents.... 29.00    Atlas Pack............... 89.00
Berlitz Think & Talk......149.00    Bibles & Religion........ 24.50
CD-ROM Dierctory......... 109.00    Cinimania............... 295.00
Colosal Cookbook.......... 24.00    Complete Bookshop........ 24.00
Comptons Encylopedia..... 159.00    Corel Draw 4.0.......... 489.00
Dictionaires & Languages.. 24.50    Food Analyst............. 49.50
Food Anylst Plus......... 149.00    Ham Radio v3.0.......... 149.00
Information USA.......... 119.00    KGB-CIA World Fact Book.. 39.00
Corel Draw 3.0........... 149.00    Monarch Notes............ 79.00
MS Office for Windows.... 589.00    Multimedia Audobons Birds 39.00
Multimedias Audons mamals  29.00    Multimedia World Fact book39.50
Murmurs of Earth.......... 49.00    Our Solar System......... 24.00
ProPhone 1993 7 cd set... 179.00    Publish It............... 69.00
Sound Sensations.......... 24.50    Space Adventure.......... 36.00
Mamals National Geograpic. 39.00    Techno Tools............. 24.50
The Bible Library......... 24.50    The Books list........... 49.50
The Family Doctor......... 39.00    Too many Type Fonts...... 24.50
Total Baseball............ 59.00    US Atlas with Automap.... 39.00
Encarta.................. 295.00    World Atlus CD-ROM....... 29.00
World Vista............... 63.00    Elecrtonic Home Library.. 59.00
Time Table of History..... 38.00    Toolworks Reference Library31.90

Mavis Beacon Teaches typing v2.0 39.00
Sports Illistraded Almanac 49.00
Street Atlus USA WINDOWS 92.50
Multimedia Animals Encyclopedia 56.90
Library of the Future 2nd Edition 159.00
1992 Time Magazine Compact Almanac 69.00
The Electronic Library ofArt 89.00
Groiler New Multimedia Encyclopedia 295.00
Dinasours & Multimedia Encyclopedia 89.00
Vital Signs The good health resource 83.00
Comptons Interactive Encyclopedia for Windows 299.00


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Subj: OCTOBER CD-ROM CATALO 2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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Arthurs Teacher trouble 34.90 Bakers Dozen Game Pak for Windows 29.00
barney Bear Goes to Space 39.00 Battle Chess Enhanced 40.00
Conan 31.00 Deathstar Arcade Batlles 24.50 Future Wars 54.50 Guy Spy 39.00
Jones in the Fast Lane 29.00 Just Grandma and me 44.00 Kings Quest 5 39.00
Kings Quest 6 39.00 LOOM 29.00  Mixed Up Mother Goose 29.95
Murder Makes Strange Dead Fellows 45.00 Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe 29.00
Space Quest 4 29.95 Spaceship Warlock 79.95 Spirit Of Excaliber 79.00
Stellar 7 29.00
7th Gyest 59.00 The Advuentures of Willly Beamish 52.50 Chessmater 3000 29.00
Lost Treasures of Infocom 59.50 Lsot tresures of Infocom 2 44.95
The manhole 44.97 The Secret Of Momkey island 35.90 Ultima I-VI series 49,95
Where in the world is Carmen San Diego 29.00 Wing Commander plus Secret
Missions 1& 2 69.95 Wing Commander 2 69.00 Wrath of the Demon 37.50

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From: ALAN ORNDORFF                          Number: 5579
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/01/93 11:08p
Subj: OS/2 CD Wanted                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MS>I'll have the file list available on my BBS very shortly.  As soon as
  >it's posted, I'll be alerting the masses, so watch for the announcement!

Ok, will watch for it then.

MS>That's cutting it pretty thin.  I should have them in my hands by the 6th,
  >(hopefully), but as for getting it to you by then, I can't promise
  >anything.  If I have them in before then, I'll be sure to let you know.

Oh well, guess I'll have to devote a weekend to it then. <g>

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From: JOHN RICKER                            Number: 5580
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 10/01/93  5:53p
Subj: Re: Adult CD ROM's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FG|o| -> Not passing judgement on your preference--Actually, preference for
  |o| -> 'XXX' is quite common--Scoop up all the product you can, because with
  |o| -> regulation about

FG|o| -> Darn shame I just deleted the next paragraph--But reconsidered that
  |o| -> you may not have a sense of humour :) No offense meant, just being
  |o| -> considerate to a stranger--Some men can't handle a 'Feisty' female,
  |o| -> so I gave you the benefit of the doubt.

FG|o| Lee, I have a terrific sense of humor, and I encourage bantering with
  |o| fiesty females, matter of fact it's a favorite passtime of mine.
  |o| However the problem I have with all of this regulation is once again,
  |o| why does the goverment regulate what I can look at and what I can't,
  |o| they don't censor the religious programs on TV, and I hate them, but I
  |o| just change the channel, if I want to look at XXX rated material, then
  |o| so be it, if someone else doesn't want to look at it, then they don't
  |o| have to. <kicking soap box aside now> That's how I feel, and thaks for
  |o| giving me the opportunity to join in this neverending discussion.

 Frank,

     Well put Frank and I agree with ya 100/ %......

John

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 5581
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 10/01/93 10:08p
Subj: CANADIAN CD-ROM SOURCE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 VS> Hacker Chronicles              $35 Experience the computer underground!


Can you please elaborate on the contents of this CD... thanks

CJK

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5582
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 09/30/93  7:34p
Subj: CD's 4-Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 KP> Night Owl 8.......................$29.00
 KP> Night Owl 9.......................$25.00
 
Charge more for an older version?  That's interesting <g>

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5583
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 09/30/93  7:45p
Subj: TIME ZONES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 VS>     It hasn't even been three weeks since you sent you letter, much
 VS> less since we received it! It was postmarked the 9th, and by the
 VS> time we received it, the special "while stocks last" that you ordered
 VS> was out of stock. Normally at that point, we call and notify
 VS> our customers as to what is happening. We did not, however, have your
 VS> phone number yet. We re-ordered more, and when they arrived
 VS> today, we not only sent them to you FedEx, entirely at our expense,
 VS> we also sent you two more excellent CD-ROMs absolutely free with our
 VS> apologies. I don't think we could have done anything else to
 VS> alleviate the problem. Since we asked you for your phone number,
 
I remember this happening to me once fromVince <g>.  Now the shoe is on the
other foot :-).

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5584
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 10/01/93  8:20p
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RD>         I, and I notice a few others have 
 RD> REPEATEDLY asked you about the status of order 
 RD> placed either via your BBS, as is my case, or other 
 RD> methods.

I left you a reply last week.  How many times to I have to reply?  I sent your
order to you on September 25, 1993 just like I said I would.  I made a mistake
and amended for it just like I said I would.  What more do you want?  Your
Express Mail number is IB355917232US.  I will be glad to fax you a copy of it
as proof if you can supply me a fax number. 
 

 RD>           I have made enquiries about my order SEVERAL times via your 
 RD> BBS and at least once in this echo.  Your response 
 RD> has ALWAYS been the same, ZILCH, NADA, SFA, NOWT.  
 
That is a blatant lie.  You left me one message on my BBS regarding the status
of your order.  You didn't bother to call back and read it either.
You left me one message here in the echo and I promptly replied to your message
and promptly shipped your order to you as I promised I would.  I have no way of
knowing if you got my reply, but I am sure someone else can testify to the fact
that I did send you one.  I made a mistake, and I promptly amended for it. 
That is all one can do.
 
 RD> Are you making business or simply pretending to 
 RD> take orders and cackling maniacly in the 
 RD> background?  There are a number of customers 
 
Are you sitting there at your computer cackling in the background for getting
enjoyment out of causing me to look bad for no justifiable reason?
 
 RD>           My question, and this will be the LAST 
 RD> time it is made to you, what is the status of my 
 RD> order, which was made via your BBS?  Has it shipped 
 RD> yet? Are you planning to ship it any time soon?  Is 
 RD> there some problem with the order?  Are you a REAL 
 RD> person of justs figment of someone's imagination?
 
Why don't you bother reading the reply I sent to you?  Do you have a warped
sense of humor and enjoy causing me to look bad and possibly causing me to lose
sales because of this unneeded and unjustified message?
 
 RD>           I have placed orders with you, Boris and Mike. All were 
 RD> made at the same time.  The order from Boris has 
 RD> been delivered, one disc returned as faulty and I 
 
As I already stated, I sent your order to you on 9/25/93.  Express Mail usually
takes about 5-7 days to get to you if they clear customs.  Did you bother to
call your customs department and see if they cleared it?  Obviously not.  I
would suggest that you do so and also check with your postal service and see
what they say if you have not received it yet.  I filled my end of the bargain.
 

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5585
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 10/01/93  8:31p
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RD>           Doug, I am on the verge of sending you a flame, this (if 
 RD> you do not understand it) is a POLITE request.  
 RD> Your level of service to your customers cannot be 
 RD> described in words, at least not while ladies are 
 RD> present, and I can only presume that you have some 
 RD> sort of masochistic tendancy and want people to 
 RD> actually dislike the service, which you are NOT, 
 RD> providing.  WAKE UP DOUG and get on with job.

 RD>          Do I get my CDs or not?  MOVE IT OR LOSE IT.

This not a flame?  Sure looks like one to me, after you told me you weren't
going to send me one.  That does not make you a very honest person, does it? 
If this is being polite, I'd hate to see what the worse on is.  I have been
very polite to you, even though, I am beginning to wonder if I should continue
to do so.  As I have said before, we aim to please, and will do whatever it
takes to please our customers if we make a mistake.  I believe we have made the
appropriate restitution for our error.  That is all we can do.  Any further
comments from you is libel and slander.  If am a nice guy and always try to put
the customer first, but there is a limit to what I am going to put up with. 
Any further negative comments from you are unjustified, and I will see to it
that a stop is put to it.  Got it?

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From: SAL PEDONE                             Number: 5586
  To: CATALINO ALVAREZ                         Date: 10/01/93 11:30p
Subj: Re: wanted comptons                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hi there,
-> Cat here.  Do you still have Comptons?  I'll give you $35 for it.
-> contact me as soon as possibble.  Thanx.
->
-> C. Alvarez Jr
-> (407) 282-8827

   Still have one new one left...Will take $40 shipped for it...
   Send Check or MO to:
   Sal Pedone
   107 Champagne Dr.
   Byron, GA  31008

   912-956-5163 6pm-9pm EST

   Let me know....Sal


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 5587
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/01/93 10:22p
Subj: where is Tim?                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Hello all!

 What happened to our "wheeling-dealing" moderator?  I have  tried
 to call him several days and there is no answer.  Perhaps  he  is
 spending his millions in the Caribbean?   Anyway, while the cat's
 away...  anyone want to talk about religion or politics?   ha  ha


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From: CHRIS BAKER                            Number: 5588
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 10/01/93  9:10a
Subj: Re: Monster Media `93 - No.2            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL> Does this one have the file lists for Spitfire BBSes?  The file name is 
JL> sffiles.bbs including names, sizes, dates

This one has a directory format which includes a listing with filename, size, 
date and description. This is one of several different formats to help make 
the conversion to other BBS' easier.

Monster Media, Inc.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5589
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 10/01/93  1:02a
Subj: Precision Mapping                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FG>Mike, how much is this CD going for, between myself and my parents, we
FG>all travel alot, and this might be very very useful, let me know..Frank

Frank,

We have the latest version in stock at $77.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5590
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 10/01/93  1:02a
Subj: Lowest CD-Rom Prices Yet!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>I have been very busy working on our new catalog with the most titles
JL>and lowest prices yet.  This price list can be downloaded from the
JL>Computer Works BBS on your first call at 14.4 kbps.  Here is a small
JL>sampling of our regular prices:

JL>Big Sky Rom             $26             Night Owl 9             $24
JL>CICA Windows            $14             Hacker Chronicles       $25
JL>Monster Media #1 1993   $30             Night Owl Graphics      $29
JL>PC Sig 12               $24             Phoenix Rom 4.0         $23
JL>Shareware Explorer Set  $53             So Much Shareware 3     $26
JL>Software Vault 2        $23             Software Vault Gold     $27

Hey Jim,

I don't see Pier on that list!  If you would like GREAT dealer pricing,
let me know.  We have 1, 2, and the newly released 3 in stock.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5591
  To: PHIL LOSACCO                             Date: 10/01/93  1:02a
Subj: Starvector Software                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PL>Greg, Starvector is a very reliable place and dependable. I have done
PL>business with them for years going back to when they started, selling
PL>shareware packs on floppie. I have alwasy been very satisfied with their

Hey, one of my original groupies!  How you doin' Phil?  I've pretty much
given up on the floppies, as the OVERWHELMING trend has shifted to optical
media.  Besides, I have a lot fewer headaches now, since people can't seem
to figure out how to zap their CD's with magnets, or format them by
accident.  I'm right where I want to be, thank you!  Good to hear from you
again!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5592
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/01/93  1:02a
Subj: NEW CD TITLES                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #1:  NEW CD ARRIVALS   |
           |____________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

 5-STAR PREMIUM WINDOWS * Latest Windows shareware + 950 OS2 files!.....$27
>9000 SOUNDS * From weird sound effect to musical scores. BBS-Ready.....$25
 AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK 93/94 * New release. 11,000,000 businesses.$39
 ARIZONA IMAGES * Fabulous photos of the Arizona desert country.........$25
>CANADIAN SHAREWARE * Nice job by Betacorp on this new shareware CD!....$22
 COLOR MAGIC CLIPART * 600 megs. of 3-D color clipart.  Royalty-free....$27
 DINOSAURS! * Fabulous interactive, multimedia Dinosaur directory on CD.$34
 DR. MUSIC * Brand new offering loaded with sound and music files.......$20
 DR. GAMES * Hours upon hours of gameplaying mayhem! BBS-Ready..........$20
 DR. SHAREWARE * Just another shareware CD? No - this one's excellent!..$20
 DR. WINDOWS * Games, utilities, productivity, business, it's all here..$20
 FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$30
 GAMEWARE COLLECTION * Over 6000 of the all time best games! BBS-ready..$24
>GARDENING * Complete handbook for the home gardener on ROM!............$13
 GIGA GAMES * Brand new from Walnut Creek. Set up for 6 popular BBS's...$25
 KING'S QUEST VI * Newest in the KQ series. Better than 7th Guest!......$47
>LAN MASTER * High quality Networking utilities & technical notes.......$27
>LEARNING HEAVEN * Mind challenging educational games...................$23
>MAC MULTIMEDIA SPACE * A M/M space adventure for Macintosh only........$39
>MAC SHAREWARE * A great CD full of current Mac shareware for Mac only..$24
 MICROSOFT BOOKSHELF 1993 * The latest CD-ROM reference library.........$58
 MICROSOFT GOLF * Multimedia Golf game that is "on par with reality"....$58
 PHOENIX 4.0 * Finally - An update to 3! Very clean CD with fresh files.$19
 PHONEDISC USA * Summer '93 edition w/ 80 million residential listings..$69
>PIER 3 * 650+mb of all new material w/ no dupes to Pier 1 or 2.........$39
 PINACOTHECA M/M * Multimedia presentation of classical paintings.......$24
 PRECISION MAPPING 1.5 * Newest release! Detailed street-level map......$77
>PROJECT GUTENBERG * Texts from Project Gutenberg for 1991-1993.........$22
 REEL CLIPS * 600mb of royalty-free digital video clips.................$35
 SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
 SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 * Brand new w/ pure 1993 files! The NEWEST s/w CD!.$29
 SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD * Totally new shareware w/ no dupes to Vault 2!....$25
>STRAIGHT FROM HEAVEN * Great new religious CD w/ several online Bibles.$23

                    Adult Titles (must state age 21+)
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 AMATEUR MODELS * All original images of young models. BBS-ready........$34
 DEEP THROAT * CD version of the famous adult flick. Truly a must-see!..$49
 DIGITAL DANCING * Interactive adult "game". Watch her strip for you!...$48
 DIRTY TALK * Full-color, full-motion video w/ adult film stars.........$49
 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2 * Sequel to release 1 with fresh, new images.......$29
 EXTREME DELIGHTS * Adult CD w/ a twist: Still pix with sound files!....$44
 HIGH VOLUME NUDES * 500 high-quality hardcore photos of centerfolds....$36
 KAMA SUTRA * Indian documentary adult film w/ narration................$49
 LUSCIOUS LADIES * Hot new adult .GIF CD with outstanding cover art.....$35
 MYSTIQUE OF THE ORIENT * 600mb movie featuring Oriental beauties.......$49
 PHONE SEX * Actual .WAV file recordings of 900-number conversations....$25
 PHOTO GALLERY * "Penthouse" type photos shot by J. Stephen Hicks.......$34
 SEYMORE BUTTS INTERACTIVE * Fantastic new "interactive" adult film.....$49
 SUPER SMUTWARE * A full CD of never-released GIF's, all 1024x768.......$33
 T&A 2 THE MAXX * Just what it sez - lots o' T & A......................$29
 TOTAL FANTASY * Newly released .GIF disc from Denmark..................$27
>WILD WOMEN * 2800+ GIF images of "milder" images. BBS-Ready............$35

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5593
  To: ALL CD-ROM DEALERS                       Date: 10/01/93  1:03a
Subj: DEALER PRICING!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                        ATTENTION CD-ROM DEALERS!
                        -------------------------
 Starvector is pleased to announce our joint venture with The Pier Exchange
 and Damar Enterprises, as distributors for their respective lines of high-
 quality, superior shareware CD-ROM titles.  We now have the following CD
 titles available for resale, with EXCELLENT mix-n-match dealer pricing:

 Pier 3 * Pier 2 * Pier 1 * CD OS/2Box * CD Powerbox 1.01 * CD Winbox

 If you are interested in any of these titles, please give us a call!
 Starvector Software * 509-457-2892 (voice) * 509-457-2966 (fax)
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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 5594
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/01/93  5:45a
Subj: Re: Starvector Software                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike, thanks for your reply and the generous offer.  I will keep the disc.
Your offer is more than fair.  I will not hesitate to order from your
company and will continue to recommend you  to other users and sysops.
Will you carry NightOwl 10?  If so how much?  Thanks.

Randy



... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: WADE NORTON                            Number: 5595
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/01/93  8:25a
Subj: Re: Starvector Software                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

> RN>only problem I had with them was when I was told the the
> RN>Gameware Collection 1993 had 1993 dated games on it.  To my suprise it
> RN>did not contain even one.  I never called to complain so I am not sure
 
> Randy,
 
> As I said before, if you would like to return this title for something
> different, feel free.
 
> Later,
> .\\ike
 
Nice touch Mike!!  I too will add my two cents...  I am a Starvector (Mike
Shannon) customer and have been satisfied!
Thanks
Wade

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From: WADE NORTON                            Number: 5596
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/01/93  8:31a
Subj: Re: Review of Raincoat CDs              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Yes! By now you should've (or soon will) see a post from Dan Guillory,
> the sysop of this (see bottom) BBS. He's put a ZIPped version of all my
> past reviews on his system and set up a special account for folks that
> want to download them that doesn't require a password. If you're a sysop,
> they can also be freq-ed from here. I'd appreciate any further comments
> you might have after you've read a few more. Cheers!
 
Freq'd with what file name or Magic Name??
Thanks
Wade

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5597
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/01/93  1:47p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES II PREORDERS!           Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Lee Noga <=-
 MS> call.  My services are free of charge, as long as you set me up like
 MS> Bob Jackson, and slip a few freebies under my pillow now and again! 
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Careful, Mike. She might decide to put the somewhere else! (GD&R)
... This tagline is made just for Mike Shannon
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From: ADRIAN VERGOT                          Number: 5598
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/30/93 11:19p
Subj: Make your own CD-ROM!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM? 
 
CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your proprietary DOS or Windows
files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and Affordable.
All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information
(600+ Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (other
formats considered on a case by case basis) and we will directly
transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any
ISO compliant CD-ROM drive (just about every one made today!)
 
- Confidentiality is assured
- $99 per CD-ROM
- additional copies only $50 each
- Turn around time is about 2 days
- BBS Sysops call for rates
- We accept money orders and cashiers checks
- Pesonal Check orders will be shipped when check clears bank
 
If interested, call (412) 942-4694 and ask for Adrian 
Auto Fax (412) 942-4694
 
CD ROM Creations
108 Shady Lane
McMurray, PA  15317
 
Enclose a signed copy of the following disclaimer with your order:
 
DUE TO THE BULK NATURE OF THIS SERVICE, CD-ROM CREATIONS (c) DOES
NOT AND CAN NOT CENSOR AND DETERMINE THE NATURE OF THE MATERIEL
THAT THE CUSTOMER IS PROVIDING.  IT IS THEREFORE THE SOLE
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER TO ENSURE THAT NO COPYRIGHT
VIOLATIONS EXIST IN PLACING THE DATA ONTO CD-ROM
                      Signed ______________________________
                                     Your Signature

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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 5599
  To: LEO MULVIHILL                            Date: 10/01/93  1:45p
Subj: Microsoft Bookhelf '92                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Leo Mulvihill beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

LM>I have a copy of Microsoft Bookshelf for Windows 1992 edition.
LM>
LM>Make me an offer and it is yours

$20

Ron


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From: MARK GLENN                             Number: 5600
  To: KEVIN KING                               Date: 09/30/93  2:52p
Subj: CDROMS FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Kevin!

In a message to Mark Glenn <09/28/93> Kevin King wrote:

KK> Mark would you please give me your mailing address as it's eaiser to mail
KK> copy of RESALE93.ZIP then call and log on as a new user and upload it.
KK> Thanks. Kevin King, SysOp "My Favorite BBS" 1-916-381-2851 Home of the
KK> Reseller's Quarterly. A Business Support board.

KK> --- TMail v1.31.5
KK>  * Origin: 24th Street Exchange - A BBS Since 1983 * (916) 448-2483 (1:20

Mark Glenn
2715 Linden St.
Des Moines, Ia. 50312

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 5601
  To: CATALINO ALVAREZ                         Date: 09/30/93  8:15p
Subj: Buying Used CD's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CA>Get rid of those CD's that you don't use anymore and are collecting dust!
CA>Contact me.  Interested in EVERYTHING from games to educational to adult

   Microsoft Bookshelf 1991
   Time Almanac 1990
   Busty Babes 1.3
   Made in the USA
   Great Cities
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 5602
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 09/30/93  8:16p
Subj: cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JJ>PC Karaoke 20.00
JJ>Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego 20.00

   $25 for the pair is offered.
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidi


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 5603
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 09/30/93  8:20p
Subj: WTB Mircosoft Works                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>JL>I am looking for either Microsoft Works or Q&A in CD format, willing to
JL>  >pay fair price.

JL>Computer Works has them at the following price:

JL>Q & A                   $42.00

JL>Shipping is $4 for up to 5 CD's.  If interested, give us a call.
JL>Thanks!

   But do you have Q&A for Windows on CD-ROM?
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 5604
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 10/03/93  5:08p
Subj: where is Tim?                           Refer: 9045
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->  What happened to our "wheeling-dealing" moderator?  I have  tried
->  to call him several days and there is no answer.  Perhaps  he  is
->  spending his millions in the Caribbean?   Anyway, while the cat's
->  away...  anyone want to talk about religion or politics?   ha  ha

I'm here.  For about a month this summer my mailer wasn't sending out
my mail - I didn't notice.... I just thought everyone was ignoring
me :(.  It got weird there for a while, but everything is working fine
now.

This weekend I was high in the Smokey Mountains - getting more video...
Sorry I missed your calls ;)

tim
moderator
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From: KEVIN MARTIN                           Number: 5605
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/22/93  8:46p
Subj: CD Rom drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I've got two Sony CDU535 CD Roms drives with controller, cables, hookup sheet,
and driver disk for sale.  They are great bbs drives as they 
are fast and dependable.  You can run 4 of these drives on the Sony bus, they
are NOT SCSI.  This model has a headphone jack on the front, and RCA jacks
on the back of the controller card.

$300 firm (for all), plus shipping ($5 for UPS/Prepay, $30 for Fedex/COD)

Call me at 680-9060 after 6:00 pm, or send netmail.

Kevin
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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 5606
  To: GREG ISOKRARI                            Date: 10/01/93 11:32p
Subj: Starvector software                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 09-26-93  11:53 Greg Isokrari said something about Starvector software, to
which I reply: 

 GI> Mike Shannon posted the price list for Starvector Software and I was
 GI> wondering if anyone had ever ordered from there???  Are they a decent
 GI> place to buy from? 

I've ordered twice from Mike, once for myself and once for my office.
All has been well, and Mike is very willing to take over the phone (on
the customer's dime) about the details of particular discs.


... "Why Johnny can't read"...now available on VHS!
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From: ZACHARY HAMM                           Number: 5607
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/02/93  5:34p
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROMS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anybody know of any good OS/2 CD-ROM disks??

Zack


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5608
  To: WAYNE HUNT                               Date: 10/03/93  8:12a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM duplicates?                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Wayne Hunt to All <=-
 WH> filefinder avaiable out there which can handle CD-ROMS? correctly?  I
 WH> have tried using several (DFL, Finddupe, etc.) PD listers to no avail,
 WH> because of the vast number of directories, they either lock up or give

You must be holding your mouth wrong. :) What version of DFL are you
using? Have you chatted with the author? He's readily available over
CSERVE. I've used DFL with 100% correct (verified) results MANY times on
CDs. As to the "..vast number of directories...", I haven't met a CD
yet with as many as 100 directories, and I wouldn't call that number
"vast". I've also used a program called "REPEATS" which is similar to
DFL (gives identical results) but has a cruder front end.

What process did you use to determine that the results from DFL, etc.
were incorrect? Are you sure your drive's functioning properly??

... The Blue Wave echo, were suggestions are taken seriously!
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From: MACY BERGOON                           Number: 5609
  To: PAUL SWIDER                              Date: 10/01/93  9:19a
Subj: CD's...                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  On 09-24-93 Macy Bergoon wrote to All...
->
->  MB> I am interested in buying any Shareware CD's, Especially Program
->  MB> related CD's....  (New or Used).  Reply Here....
->
->  Macy I have a new (still in Shrinkwrap) CDROM titled DISC to the FUT
->  PART II (don't ask me about part I <g>). It states on the back Progr
->  reference CD-ROM for the Macintosh, PC & UNIX. Over 300 Megabytes of
->  source code & utilities for the professional and part time MAC, PC,
->  UNIX programmer. ALL text and source code is fully indexed with TEXT
->
->  3D-Graphics, Ray Tracing, Quicktime, JPEG, GIF, TIFF, PICT, Postscri
->  APL, ASM, BASIC, C, C++, Forth, FORTRAN, Hypercard, LISP, MacAPP, PA
->  Prolog, SMALLTALK, BTrees, Compliers, etc, etc, etc. I think you get
->  picture.
->
->  I got it as part of a package. I'm not into programming so never eve
->  looked at it. It's yours for $20 plus $2 postage. A money order will
->  next day shipping and a check will get a week's wait before I ship.
->
->  If interested my name address and telephone # are as follows:
->
->  Paul F. Swider           (702) 877-4907
->  509 Digger St.
->  Las Vegas, Nv.
->  89107
->
->
->
-> ... OFFLINE 1.50  "A good hacker knows all the right MOVs."
->
-> --- Maximus/2 2.01wb
->  * Origin: The Choice BBS, Las Vegas, NV 702-253-6527 HST DS 16.8k (1
->
->
->
->
->

I'll offer you $15 bucks shipped to my door.  I have seen the CD before
and it's okay, and I'd like to have it, but $15 is as high as I can
go....   If ya still want to sell, Please Advise or call 216-337-1405
after 5:pm EST.

                         Thanks,

                                Macy


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From: MACY BERGOON                           Number: 5610
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 10/01/93  9:20a
Subj: CD's...                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> MB>I am interested in buying any Shareware CD's, Especially Programme
->   >related CD's....  (New or Used).  Reply Here....
->
-> If you will post your address, you will receive a catalog from Comput
-> Works, and probably several other dealers.  Thanks.
->
-> Computer Works                                          Jim...
-> CD-Rom Sales!
-> (205) 793-4481 Voice    Download CATALOG1.ZIP for our latest prices.
-> (205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders.
-> --- FreeMail 1.09
->  * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)
->
->
->
->
->
->

Thanks for the message.  I'll call your bbs and get the catalog.....

                           Macy


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From: MACY BERGOON                           Number: 5611
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/01/93  9:23a
Subj: CD's Wanted                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All:

I am interested in any Shareware CD's, but mostly Programmer Related
files.  Anyone that wishes to send my a catalog...Go For It....

Macy Bergoon
P.O. Box 364
Salem, Oh 44460

Or netmail me at 1:237/530 Tech-Line BBS

                      Thanks


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From: PAUL T.NELSON                          Number: 5612
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/02/93  8:40p
Subj: Order                                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike,

I faxed you an order today (Sat 10/2).  Last time it took 3 whole days for
my order to get here and one of those days was Sunday!  I know you work fast
but try to improve on that.  After all you have a reputation to uphold! <g>

Really, thanks a bunch...      Paul T.Nelson

P.S. What's the best dinosaur or other exciting educational CD around? I
have to prepare a presentation for our school board next month to help
convince them that our school needs several CD stations for students.  I'm
looking for anything that will "wow" them...




* VbReader V1.2  *Ok, now for a quick backu+A+&2#^1s=


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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 5613
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/02/93  2:00p
Subj: Night Owl v10 Shareware C               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*@SUBJECT:Night Owl v10 Shareware CD in Stock & Shipping !!!          N
                   NIGHT OWL SHAREWARE CD VERSION 10

                    *** IN STOCK AND SHIPPING ***

                            Price:   $39

    Percent 1993 files................................... 100%
    Percent files dated Jan-Jun '93......................  34%
    Percent files dated Jul-Sep '93 (age 3 mo. or less)..  66%  !!!!!
    Percent dupes with Night Owl 9.......................   0%
    Percent internal dupes on CD.........................   0%

           Total Meg: 647     Total Files: 5,139

Dates reported reflect actual file dates (.EXE, .COM, .OVL, etc.), not ZIP
dates.  Night Owl 10 contains the NEWEST and MOST CURRENT files available on
any CD, BAR NONE!  In fact, nearly 100 Meg. of the total files are from
Sept. '93!  The Night Owl v9/v10 combo ($59) provides 1.3 Gigabytes of
unduplicated files from 1993!

   TO OUR CUSTOMERS:  We received the v10 disks today (Sat. 10/2) and will
   spend the weekend processing all our advance orders.  For those of you
   who placed an advance order, your disk(s) will ship on Monday (10/4) and
   you should have them in hand by mid-week.

  ** Games ** Communications ** Utilities ** Windows 3.1 ** OS/2 **
  ** Graphics ** GIFs ** Demos ** Data Base ** Modem ** Video **
  ** DV/QEMM ** Menus/Shells ** Compression ** Virus ** Spreadsheet **
  ** Network/LAN ** Offline Mail ** Fonts ** Word Processing ** DOS **
  ** BASIC ** PASCAL ** Business/Finacne ** Unix/Linux ** MORE!!

Night Owl's Publisher and TCM Computing have again joined forces to bring
you the very *best* Shareware CD available.  Our last two joint-efforts
(NOPV9 and Graphics v1) have received rave reviews from both our customers
and the CD-ROM industry (see the Sep/Oct 1993 issue of "CD-ROM Reporter").
Now, WE'VE DONE IT AGAIN!

As with all Night Owl CDs, v10 is BBS ready (PCBoard DIR format).
As the Night Owl Support BBS, TCM has conversion programs available to
generate the file directories for most BBS s/w.  PLUS, the state-of-the-art
NIGHT.EXE retreival engine has had even more features adder for v10!!
This includes a mouse-driven interface for both DOS and WINDOWS!
File DIRs for v10 are available to d/l from TCM BBS as NIGHTV10.ZIP.

You may place VISA/MC orders while online at TCM by typing ORDER at
the Main Menu prompt.  (If you are a prior TCM Customer, you should use the
"Previous Customer" Menu selection in order to receive your discount).
Checks or Money Order should be sent to the address listed below.

TCM Computing accepts Visa, MasterCard, Money Orders and Check.  C.O.D.
shipments are also welcome ($4 extra).  Call TCM for all the information!

        => TCM BBS is the Official Night Owl Support Board <=

 => TCM is an authorized N.O. Distributor.  Dealers call for pricing. <=

 TCM Computing                             (703) 439-8032
 Rt. 2 Box 130                             (703) 439-8237 Fax
 Midland, Va.  22728                       (703) 439-3060 BBS
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 5614
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/02/93  1:04p
Subj: CD-ROM SOURCE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   Canada's CD-ROM Source is...

                   CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA

               6 Armstrong Bay * Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7
               306-789-4654 Voice * 306-789-8690 Fax
                    VISA/MC/MO/Cheque Accepted

           New titles weekly! Call for current specials!
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 5615
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/02/93  1:05p
Subj: CURRENT HITS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

****    Shareware Studio III in stock!   Just $39 Canadian!    ****
CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA is proud to be a part of bringing you
this excellent collection of 5100+ files (630+ Meg)... Many of the
files are from the exclusive premium Superboard collection, and
this disc uses the best, most-versatile, and easy-to-use interface
on any CD-ROM to date. No archive errors, BBS ads, known viruses,
or AV codes... .ZIP archive dates match the latest date within the
archive. Call 306-789-4654 or fax 306-789-8690 for your copy today!
** BONUS ** For $69 Canadian, receive the full set of Vol 1, 2 & 3!
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From: JEFF NEWMAN                            Number: 5616
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/03/93  2:05a
Subj: Re: Address                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Jeff Newman to Bob Jackson <=-
 JN> Bob, I am an open minded individual and will take whatever you have
 JN> that you do not want. :-)

 BJ>  Netmail me your address to this BBS just in case... (:>


 Bob, 4d address is 1:396/17.21, while 3d is 30379/21 or something like that
 I AM POINT 21 on New Orleans Personal Computer Club 1:396/17
 H (504) 282-7096 w (504) 842-5352 9:30 - 7:00 CST approx

-Jeff NOPCCCC

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From: CHRIS DRUDGE                           Number: 5617
  To: MARK LUTZ                                Date: 10/01/93  6:42p
Subj: Cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you have any more of those CD-ROMs for sale at 135.00?
send me some info on them if you do.
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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 5618
  To: STEAN SNYMAN                             Date: 10/02/93 11:29p
Subj: info on CD's                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Stean Snyman beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

SS>Hello All!
SS>
SS>I'm looking for info on the followwing 2 CD's :
SS>
SS>VGA SPECTRUM 1
SS>DR. MUSIC

What kind of info?


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 5619
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/03/93  3:55p
Subj: where is Tim?                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Doug   Carpenter   wrote   in  a   message   to   Terry   Blount:

DC> Do you still sell those inexpensive SCSI units?

 I never had any  SCSI  units  but  since I  can't  get  any  more
 Hitachi's I have found a source for NEC 25's   they  are  SCSI. I
 have to check them out and find a way to daisy chain them  before
 I  can  put  them  on  the  market.   Thanks  for  your  inquiry.

 ¯Let us be glad and rejoice, for the  marriage of the Lamb is come,(Rev.
19:7)®

 --- timEd-B9
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From: THOMAS ALLRED                          Number: 5620
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/02/93  9:14p
Subj: cd-roms wanted x-rated                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

i would like to order total fantasy 1
if you will send c.o.d.
i am over 21
my home address

is

thomas allred
3661 sw 60th terr #w
miramar fl
           33023


                    305-989-1473  
 

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From: THOMAS ALLRED                          Number: 5621
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 10/02/93  9:17p
Subj: cd-roms wanted x-rated                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

what is the c.d. rom exotic girls about

if it is xrated scans and gif's i will take for 25

thomas allred
3661 sw 60th terr  #w
miramar fl 33023


                     305-989-1473  
 

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From: GILNEI MORAES                          Number: 5622
  To: LOUIS SOKOL                              Date: 10/03/93  1:58a
Subj: FREE CATALOG                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

My fax # is (305) 377-4634 Att.: Gilnei Moraes


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From: DANIEL HAGAN                           Number: 5623
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/03/93  2:10a
Subj: Starvector Software                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Ahhhh..not to butt in, but 'Groupware' would have to prove they in
 > fact have damages from this 'Defamation'--It's not that easy to
 > sue..they would have to prove loss of business etc, as a direct
 > result of the 'libel' comment--Something that is not easy to do--So
 > was this defamation, or ones right to freedom of speech ?

Not too tough to do, I use to research stuff at my father's law office when I
was younger...guess you could start by:

1.  If Groupware has an average % sells produced out of the this echo
    tracked in his customer database, the case is over if sells have
    declined (wouldn't even have to directly attribute them to that    
comment).  Based on the way these guys are always sending out catalogs
    I'm sure this information is available.

2.  As for defamation of character, the poster said he was a "crook".
    What other type of information are you looking for (i.e. would
    you purchase from 'GroupWare' after hearing this?)?

3.  Once it gets to court, the plaintiff is nearly always guarantted
    some type of award (although the famous $1 has been awarded quite
    a few times as well).  On the otherhand, there are always the
    washed up Carol Burnett types that sue when they basically shouldn't
    win a thing and they do!

Personally, if I were running a business and only won $1 in the situation
above, I'd consider it a victory...mainly because the guy with the big mouth
would be eating both my court costs and his.

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From: DANIEL HAGAN                           Number: 5624
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/03/93  2:13a
Subj: Industry changes                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Been already burned--That was the boom of 1993, and obscenity busts
 > will be 1994--

 > Its not pleasant when reality comes knocking--Don't believe what I
 > say, I am merely relaying the what's going on from within inside
 > distribution--

This is a pretty sad situation, when someone goes through the rigors of
obtaining non-copyrighted material and then lays down the amount of cash you
indicated previously to get a disc produced.

--- GEcho 1.00
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From: DON NELSON                             Number: 5625
  To: LEO MULVIHILL                            Date: 10/03/93  1:02a
Subj: Microsoft Bookhelf '92                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LM> I have a copy of Microsoft Bookshelf for Windows 1992
LM> edition.
LM> Make me an offer and it is yours

$25 + shipping?

Call me if it is mine.  (303) 470-6642 or (303) 470-7123 
Donavan 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5626
  To: WADE NORTON                              Date: 10/03/93  7:35a
Subj: Re: Review of Raincoat CDs              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

They are each in seperate .ZIP files as follows:
BUSTY_R3.ZIP  is Busty Babes Vol. 1/ Rel. 3
D_DREAMS.ZIP  is Digital Dreams
EROTIC_2.ZIP  is Erotic Encounters 2
PGG1.ZIP      is PGG1
PORK_1.ZIP    is Pork-Ware 1
PORK_2.ZIP    is Pork-Ware II
STARE.ZIP     is STAREware
S_BEAUTY.ZIP  is Southern Beauties
TA_MAXX.ZIP   is T&A to the MAXX
VIVID_1.ZIP   is Girls of Vivid - Vol. 1
DATABASE.ZIP  is a Lotus .WK1 compatible spreadsheet xref of dup name counts

If you can't freq, you may use a guest account of CD_REVIEW or CD REVIEW (no
password req'd) to get to the files. They're all in file area #22. Future
reviews will be announced here and put in the same place.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5627
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 10/03/93  7:37a
Subj: ADULT CD ROM'S                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Is that good news or bad news?

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 5628
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/26/93  2:14p
Subj: Technical Shareware on CD-ROM           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Here's a brief view of technical software on recent CD-ROMs.
 EMS's products cost more, but you can see they ARE different.
 EMS Professional Shareware - voice:301-924-3594 Fax:301-963-2708
 Free brochure/catalog will tell you more.
 
                EMS   SMS3  Pier2  SS2  NOwl9 Win93 SV2
 Access           212
 Assembler        400                      17          15
 C/C++           1046    98         288               216
 AutoCAD          876          51    45    30          34
 Xbase           3146          53    83    82         502
 Netware          974    58          48    42   172
 ObjectVision      95
 OS/2             338
 Paradox          556
 Sci/Eng          146          53          38    25    85
 SmallBusiness    273
 Spreadsheet      352          11    55    15    50    27
 TrueType         752   218   112               749
 TurboPascal      703    67         264    30         169
 VBasic Windows   534    59                     130
 VBDOS/QB/PDS     234               130
 Windows Utils    739                          Mixed
 
 EMS Professional Shareware, 10'93 (ships Oct.1, Dec.1, Feb.1)
 SMS3 - So Much Shareware #3
 SS2 - Shareware Studio #2
 NOwl9 - NightOwl #9
 Win93 - Windows 1993
 SV2 - Software Vault #2
The other CD-ROMs have MANY more non-technical files that are not
listed here). If you are a generalist or hobbiest, these are the right products
for you. If you make your living programming, running a Novell network, doing
AutoCAD, etc., consider how important the right tools are.
--- GEcho 1.00/beta
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 5629
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/26/93  2:30p
Subj: PROGRAMMER'S MEGAPACK!!                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

It's hard to figure how the Programmer's Megapack could be a great asset to a
professional programmer, but it does compare nicely with TechnoTools, Walnut
Creek's offerings, C User Group, etc. Please
recommend this to hobbiests on a tight budget. For professionals, sell
EMS's CD-ROM libraries for programmers. Call me at
(301)924-3594 to discuss distribution.
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From: GREG GILETTO                           Number: 5630
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/02/93  9:11p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hey Mike, 
So far what I've read about your company makes me believe your 
THE ONE I want to buy CD's from. Send me a catalog PLEASE. 
Thanx, 
Greg 
 
Gregory Giletto 
1699 Cumberland Place 
Greenville, NC   27858 
 
... Let's Go PHILLIES!!!!! 
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5631
  To: VADE FORRESTER                           Date: 10/02/93 10:17a
Subj: Wrong shipment                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 VF> I received the shipment of CD-ROMs from you last 
 VF> Friday. I was disappointed to
 VF> find the 1992 version of Microsoft Bookshelf in the 
 VF> shipment. When I placed the
 VF> order, I specifically asked you if you were 
 VF> shipping the 1993 version, as your
 VF> competitors are, and you said you were. I really 
 VF> want the 1993 version; please
 VF> tell me how to return the CD-ROM for an exchange or refund.

It was supposed to 1993.  The distributor must have sent us the wrong one.  I
specifically ordered 1993 and thought that was what it said.  Please return it
to PCJ, 323 TN Nursery Rd, Cleveland, TN and we will get you another one out
immediately with a refund on all shipping costs.  We will also be contacting
our distributors with a strong rebuttal to what I ordered.  Sorry about that.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5632
  To: DAVE RYDER                               Date: 10/02/93 10:30a
Subj: CAnadian People CD-ROM de               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DR>     Darren, I understand that CD-Rom Wholesalers of 
 DR> Canada, in Regina has
 DR>     it for $75.00 Can. without box or tape.  Their number is
 DR>     (306) 789-4654 voice.

 DR>     No affiliation, just a Canadian customer.

We have it on special through 10/14 for $36.95 US$....615-339-0235.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5633
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 10/02/93 10:34a
Subj: asian ladies                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We can sell you Asian Ladies for $36 shipped by priority mail.  Call
615-339-0235 9-9 daily to order.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5634
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 10/02/93 10:38a
Subj: where is Tim?                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you still sell those inexpensive SCSI units?

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5635
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/02/93 10:39a
Subj: Hot Weekly CDROM specials               Refer: NONE
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    PCJ "Hot" CDROM Specials - Thru 10/7/93
 
All Chestnut Titles (15).............. 10.00
Amateur Models........................ 26.95
Beyond the Wall of Stars.............. 19.95
Phone Sex............................. 15.95
Prophone Midyear '93.................. 94.95
Street Atlas v1....................... 82.95
Street Atlas v2....................... 84.95
U.S. History.......................... 17.95
US Atlas/World Atlas/
Chessmaster 3000/Mavis Beacon (All 4). 37.95
 
    PCJ "Hot" CDROM Specials - Thru 10/14/93
 
American Business Phone Book '92...... 13.95
American Business Phone Book '93-'94.. 21.95
Classic Collection - Shakespeare, Sherlock,
Audobon Birds, Audobon Mammals (All 4) 42.95
Debbie Does Dallas.................... 31.95
Deep Throat........................... 31.95
Grolier's DOS v5.0 Encyclopedia....... 32.95
Grolier's MPC WIN Encyclopedia........ 32.95
MacMillan Dictionary for Children..... 21.95
Monarch Notes......................... 42.95
Seventh Guest......................... 36.95
Shareware Heaven...................... 12.95
So Much Shareware 1................... 14.95
So Much Shareware 2................... 14.95
US Atlas with Automap................. 21.95
 
Prices are while quantities last & only thru posted date.
Orders - 800-547-7817 (9-9 EST) / 615-339-0235 (9-9 EST)

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5636
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/02/93 10:40a
Subj: Lower Pioneer CDROM pricing             Refer: NONE
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      PCJ Computing proudly announces lower pricing on the
             Pioneer DRM600A 6 disc CD-ROM changers.
 
            The new, lower pricing is listed below.
 
Drive                       Access time (avg)     Disc change time
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DRM600A                        600ms                  5 - 7 sec.
 
Pricing:
 
Drive                       Bare drive          Kit (inc card/cable)
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DRM600A                       $729.00                 $799.00
 
International sales and shipping welcome. Contact us by fax or leave a
message here if you are outside the USA and we will be happy to quote a
price for shipping to anywhere in the world.
 
    ** SYSOPS **  RECEIVE $5 OFF ANY SHAREWARE CD with purchase **
         We stock the latest Shareware CDs at very low prices.
 
   **  Get your best price on the 600A and we'll meet or beat it. **
 
  **  PAY by Cashiers Check/Money Order and Receive Free Shipping **
 
   **  CONTACT US FOR SPECIAL BUNDLE PRICING WITH 4 CDS MINIMUM **
 
        If interested, contact Doug Carpenter at PCJ Computing.
 
            Toll Free (800) 547-7817 (Orders only, please!)
  Voice (615) 476-4026     FAX (615) 479-1047     BBS  (615) 478-2890

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 5637
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 10/02/93  3:29p
Subj: Re: Catalog                             Refer: NONE
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Boris,
    Thanks for that response! I have found NightOwl10 for as low as $29
bucks.................Let me ASAP when you get it in!
                                        Sam Figueroa
                                        Sam's Software
                                        (615) 728-7383

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 5638
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 10/03/93  6:51a
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Sorry, already sold.

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From: HUNG LAM                               Number: 5639
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/03/93  6:24p
Subj: CD-rom For sale                         Refer: NONE
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Hi I'm looking to buy a used CD-ROM from anybody at a reasonable price.


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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 5640
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 10/03/93  3:52p
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IA>Your new unit is on the way or maybe you have already received it.
    Many thanks... I'll be watching for it.

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 5641
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/03/93  3:56p
Subj: Review of Raincoat CDs                  Refer: NONE
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BJ>Yes! By now you should've (or soon will) see a post from Dan Guillory, the
BJ>sysop of this (see bottom) BBS. He's put a ZIPped version of all my past
BJ>reviews on his system and set up a special account for folks that want to
BJ>download them that doesn't require a password.

    Thanks for the service! I saw your message concerning same in my last
    packet, and will look for something from Dan about how to access the
    board and download them. It's unfortunate that there's so much hassle
    about the adult items, but I'm glad that you've found a way to provide
    your reviews through an outside source. The effort you put out is
    appreciated.

- Heather
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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 5642
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 10/03/93  3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Busty Babes v1#3         Refer: NONE
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]]]     TITLE: Busty Babes Volume 1 Release 3.0 
]]]      SIZE: 528 Megs 
]]]     FILES: 3248 
]]] PUBLISHER: Florida Lions Den, Inc. 
]]]  CATEGORY: Adult, End User & BBS Ready 
]]]     DATED: 07-19-93 
 
This is release 3.0 of the very famous Busty Babes disc.  This is not 
really a "new title" but a rework of the original BBS disc.  If you 
have a copy of the older disc, you may or may not want a copy of the 
newer version, depending on your needs.  I'll explain more on that 
later. 
 
The new ShowOff routines were rather fascinating, but a bit slow for me 
to operate.  Some of the features of it are rather neat, I must admit, 
such as the ability to see the "file description" when you move your 
mouse over the image in question. 
 
The images on this disc are, for the most part, scans culled from BBS's 
around the country.  I can't honestly say that they might be culled from 
other CD's, because Busty Babes predates most of the adult CD's on the 
market today!  <smile!>  It's more likely that any culling done was done 
*From* Busty Babes, rather than *by* Busty Babes. 
 
Because of these sources, some of the images are nice, some of them are 
not all that whoopie.  Typical of BBS scans, in my opinion.  You have 
some really good scanners out there, and some not-so-good scanners. 
 
Regarding the "perhaps you need it, perhaps you don't" message, let me 
explain:  If you are an "end user" and have an earlier copy, there is 
very little new here for you.  The major difference between this 
release and prior releases is the Showoff interface, and the removal of 
certain "sensitive" files (ie: copyrighted material that was 
inadvertently placed on the disc).  As an end user, this is probably 
not enough to make it worth your while to switch to the new version. 
If you are a SysOp, however, it might be a very good idea to switch 
to the new title.  The removal of the "sensitive" images makes it a 
much safer disc to run online, and in this rather litigative society 
that we all live in, the more protection you have, the better. 
 
The files are classified by subject, as per the norm with Florida 
Lion's Den products. 
 
BBS Readiness is supplied by adding a "FILES.BBS" list to each 
subdirectory, in the following format: 
 
AA_12367.GIF [0] Graphic File Description Placed Here 
 
This is not an easy format to convert to other BBS systems.  Luckily, 
for the less intrepid out there, there is a file called ALLFILES.LST in 
the root directory that has file listings in this format: 
 
ACTION_2.GIF   210155 13-Jul-93 [0] Graphic File Description Placed Here 
 
While not perfect by any means, this one is a LOT easier to convert into 
useful formats than the prior one.  However, all the file listings are 
in one big text list, and you will have to use your favorite editor to 
break it into appropriate chunks, as well as making the changes to make 
them into your format of choice.  While not preferable, the inclusion of 
this file does make converting the disc a LOT easier.  I hate having to 
convert discs from the abreviated "FILES.BBS" format that is used on a 
lot of discs these days. 
 
The file SYSOP.DOC in the root directory indicates that there are utils 
contained for converting their provided file listings into several 
different formats.  I looked for one listed, Spitfire, the BBS software 
that I run, and came up with nothing usable for conversion. 
 
Personally, I feel that a BBS ready disc should support as many 
different BBS's as reasonably possible.  Leaving the work up to the SysO 
is hardly a way to win the SysOp market.  Luckly, this disc is one of 
the few really worth the work of making a file listing for it. 
 
Overall Impression:  The disc shows the quality that we have come to 
expect from Florida Lion's Den.  The Showoff interface, while 
interesting, didn't live up to the expectations that I had for it from 
all of the "opinions" that I had been reading and hearing.  For the 
end user without a prior copy of Busty Babes, it's a good, solid disc 
to get.  For the SysOp, it's a good bet, and a better bet if you have 
an older copy online and want to get your material a bit safer in 
content. 
 
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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 5643
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 10/03/93  3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Shareware Explorer       Refer: NONE
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]]]     TITLE: Shareware Explorer 
]]]      SIZE: [1] 447 Megs  [2] 482 Megs  [3] 523 Megs  [4] 498 Megs 
]]]     FILES: [1] 8688      [2] 6083      [3] 5084      [4] 6996 
]]] PUBLISHER: New Frontiers CD-ROMs 
]]]  CATEGORY: Shareware/BBS Ready 
]]]     DATED: 08-06-93 
 
I approached this set wondering to myself if they had managed to break 
the "multi-disc cruddiness" that I've noticed in other multi-disc 
collections.  By this, I mean that with one notable exception, every 
multi-disc set that I've come across has been rather... annoying. 
They had several problems, too many to bother with mentioning here. 
The only exception was World Vision. 
 
World Vision still holds that title in my book. 
 
I started out by browsing the disc looking for highlights.  And boy, 
did I find them, in spades.  But, I'll get to that later, and take 
this in my normal pattern. 
 
When attempting to install the end user interface, I was greeted by two 
executable files... a GO.BAT and an INSTALL.EXE.  I selected the GO.BAT 
at first, and found, much to my annoyance, that it only displayed text 
files.  I read some of them, found some useful and a lot of totally 
useless information, and went on to the INSTALL.EXE.  After supplying 
the data that it requested, it installed the program to my hard drive, 
and I was off. 
 
Or was I?  It turns out that the install did nothing more than install 
a short batchfile that referred to nothing in particular in regards to 
the disc, or the interface program.  Feeling that NOTHING could be 
THAT dumb, I decided to have other people test the disc to see if they 
could make it work, or if it really was as dumb as it looked. 
 
I put my wife, Korene, in front of it, and offered no help.  I figured 
that this would be a good test, simulating someone that doesn't know 
DOS as an expert and would have to use the user interface.  After 
several minutes of utter confusion trying to make heads or tails of 
what it was doing, she ended up with the exact same results that I got. 
In other words, nothing.  When asked what she thought of the user 
interface on the disc, her reply was short and to the point. 
 
Unfortunately, it cannot be reprinted here. 
 
Korene works at a local VA Hospital as a computer processing manager, 
but her knowledge of DOS systems is not up to her professional 
knowledge.  She normally works with the voice activated systems that 
she has to maintain.  Luckily, my system is not voice activated, because 
I'm not sure how it would have interpreted the string of "commands" 
that she gave it once she was done attempting to make it work. 
 
Ok, last chance... I turned Scott Reigle loose on it.  Scott is the 
SysOp of Farkem Asylum, a gaming board.  Scott has configured several 
hundred different BBS programs for his board, and I figured that he was 
our last, greatest hope. 
 
Well, Scott tried a different tactic, got different messages, and ended 
up with the exact same results.  Yeesh.  Scott's reaction was, while 
not quite as colorful as Korene's, quite enlightening.  Something that 
I cannot say about the software. 
 
I finally got the software operational using the /nowrite option and 
running it right from the CD-ROM.  What greeted me was one of the 
slowest CD-ROM interfaces that I've ever had the misfortune to come 
across. 
 
To say that I wasn't pleased would be an understatement. 
 
Ok, lets go look at the BBS readiness of the disc.... 
 
The files in the discs are arranged in subdirectories named A001, A002, 
A003, etc.  Not terribly descriptive, but easy to configure in a BBS 
door.  Each subdirectory had in it a FILES.BBS in the following format: 
 
AFFORD.ZIP   [0] Annuity Calculation Program (asp). 
 
This was the only file listing provided in the subdirectories.  These 
are among the most difficult to use on other systems, because of the 
lack of information. 
 
.... continued in next message.... 
 
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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 5644
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 10/03/93  3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Hacker Chronicles        Refer: NONE
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]]]     TITLE: The Hacker Chronicles 
]]]      SIZE: 145 Megs 
]]]     FILES: 6394 
]]] PUBLISHER: S&S Publishing 
]]]  CATEGORY: Information / Some Shareware/PD 
]]]     DATED: 02-25-93 
 
This disc doesn't quite fit into any mold that I'm using to seeing 
on the materials that I look at.  The information on this disc is not 
"illegal" per se, although if you were to attempt to use it, you might 
find yourself in some hot water. 
 
This disc is a collection of text files & programs dealing mostly with 
the "Computer Underground" and related materials.  Looking over this 
disc, I found information ranging on "how to play phone pranks" (these 
being about as sophisticated as "Do You Have Prince Albert in the Can?") 
to hard info on telephone and credit information repositories, to a 
rather interesting text written by an alleged "Ninja" (with very bad 
use of the English language) on how to infect a victim with Hepatitis. 
 
Reading through some of the material on the disc is rather fascinating. 
I must admit that this disc could provide a large amount of 
"entertainment" if someone was of evil intent. 
 
This disc had a very crude BBS support built in... each directory has 
a text file in it that is named "dirname.DIR" with the "dirname" being 
the name of the directory.  The file listings look like this, pretty 
much (they don't all fit in the same pattern): 
 
cud100a.txt cud100a.txt Moderator's Introduction 
 
As you can see, this one will take a LOT of work to get ready for BBS 
usage... assuming you are brave enough to use this online!  <smile!> 
 
As a BBS ready disc, I have to give this one a thumbs down.  The 
information is quite "explosive" (sometimes literally) and the BBS 
listings will require a LOT of work to make usable.  The disc is only 
145 Megs in size, so it's nowhere near a full disc. 
 
For the end user or Sysop interested in information for themselves, 
this could be quite a find, depending on what you are looking for. 
There is a lot of fascinating information here, and perhaps it would 
be worth it to you to have one lying around. 
 
Personally, I think that I'm going to snarf a couple of the directories 
off of it to put in my magnetic files base.. there is some fascinating 
stuff on there that could be of use, even to the totally legitimate 
callers that have no interest in shady activities. 
 
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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 5645
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 10/03/93  3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Lan Master               Refer: NONE
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]]]     TITLE: Lan Master 
]]]      SIZE: 91 Megs 
]]]     FILES: 2255 
]]] PUBLISHER: High Tech Productions 
]]]  CATEGORY: Local Area Networking Information 
]]]     DATED: 09-30-1986 (According to CHKCD Command) 
 
The disc advertises itself as over 100 Megs of high quality Network 
Utilities, patches, tech notes, multiplayer games, communications 
programs and many other useful references and files.  Well, as you 
can see by my CHKCD readout, there is only 91 megs on the disk total, 
so someone missed something somewhere.... 
 
The creation date was rather... amusing.  I found files in the disc 
dating 1991 and 1992, but according to all the filemarks, this disc 
was made in 1986.  Why was such a silly date applied to the disc? 
It can do nothing but hurt it. 
 
This disc is NOT BBS ready in the conventional sense.  I did manage to 
find some PCBoard style BBS listings for SOME of the files, but these 
were NOT well marked, and they didn't cover a large portion of the files 
on the disc.  Overall, very disappointing.  Of course, even if it did 
have decent file listings, the 91 Meg size of the disc means that it 
would be terribly inefficient to use as a BBS disc, but at least you 
could use it to beef up your magnetic file section. 
 
The disc was obviously set up for the end user market, and I found the 
menu interface to be unremarkable, but at least it was functional, with 
no problems detected in use.  That's more than I can say for a lot 
of menus... <grin!> 
 
I was a bit underwhelmed by some of the file sections on this disc... 
there was specific mention of multiplayer games on the disc, and I was 
rather disappointed to find only eight games on the disc in the LAN 
games section.  The multitasking section had 37 files listed on it, 
and it didn't have any cover space dedicated to it at all... I guess 
they figured that the games, skimpy though they be, would be a greater 
draw than the multitasker section. 
 
Overall, I'm not impressed.  It might service as a reference item for 
some technojocks, but otherwise, I can't really recommend it.  It's not 
BBS ready in any meaningful fashion, and there is nothing here that you 
could really want to bother with as a SysOp anyway, with the lack of 
decent file descriptions on most of the files. 
 
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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 5646
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 10/03/93  3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Legends of Porn          Refer: NONE
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]]]     TITLE: Legends of Porn 2 
]]]      SIZE: N/A 
]]]     FILES: N/A 
]]] PUBLISHER: New Machine Publishing 
]]]  CATEGORY: Adult Non-BBS Ready 
]]]     DATED: N/A 
 
This is a Windows application, so you better be prepared to wait 
a while when using this disc... <smile!>  I found this to be a typical 
Windows Animation experience.. very, very slow, and very, very 
annoying. 
 
Things took forever to load into Windows and run, in my opinion. 
Of course, I'm a person that goes to the kitchen to get a Diet Pepsi 
when WinDoze is loading... <smile!> 
 
The system requirements for running this disc on a PC are as follows: 
Windows 3.1, "Color machines recommended," 386 processor, DOS 5.0, 
Soundblaster or compatible card, 8 or 16 bit video card, and a 
"multimedia capable" CD-ROM. 
 
However, I found the the performance on my machine to be abysmal. 
I have a 486/25DX with 8 Megs of RAM, 128k cache, 1 Meg Boca XVGA 
card, 15" flat screen 1280x1024 monitor, and Sony CD-ROM, paired with 
a brand spanking new Sound Blaster Deluxe card (bought just for the 
purpose of reviewing all of these new titles!). 
 
When playing the sampler, I got an "out of memory" message on this 
disc.  Pfffttt. 
 
Of course, any movie disc like this is totally useless for the BBS 
market, so I won't even bother going into something like that. 
The material is illegal for BBS distribution, and it would be highly 
impractical to even attempt it. 
 
When attempting to use the "panic button" on it, I ended up with my 
system at a standstill with a curiously pulsating Icon at the bottom 
of my screen.  I've never seen such an "interesting" phenomenon in 
quite a long time!  I hate software that requires a reboot to get 
out of... 
 
Overall Impression:  For the BBS SysOp, pass on it.  For the individual 
user, if your equipment or patience is better than mine, go for it, 
if you just *have* to have some adult Windows animations.  Personally, 
I think that they are a waste of time, but hey, such is life, eh? 
<smile!> 
 
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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 5647
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 10/03/93  3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Super Smutware           Refer: NONE
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]]]     TITLE: Super Smutware 
]]]      SIZE: 661 Megs 
]]]     FILES: 1236 
]]] PUBLISHER: Chicago Computer Broker 
]]]  CATEGORY: Adult, BBS Ready 
]]]     DATED: 08-20-93 
 
Chicago Computer Broker has put out several titles in the past, 
including the underwhelming original "Smutware" disc, Shareware 1993, 
Windows 1993, Games 1993, Swimwear 1993 (do we see a pattern here?). 
I have been rather lukewarm on a lot of their prior work, as it didn't 
show much in the way of thought in the area of BBS readyness. 
 
This disc shows that people CAN learn from their mistakes. 
 
This disc, while not the easiest directory structure that I've seen, 
actually wasn't too bad to figure out.  The file listings, provided in 
each subdirectory and in a separate subdirectory, are in a PCBoard style 
format, very easy to modify. 
 
I personally think that the reason the file listings are as good as they 
are is simply because CCB didn't mess with the file listings that they 
were given with the GIF files. 
 
Chicago Computer Broker didn't create the data on this disc, they 
apparently made some sort of arrangement with "Corporate Graphics" BBS, 
one of the better BBS scanner artists.  Each of the GIF files on this 
disc are 1024x768 graphics (mostly due to adding large colorful 
background images to each picture, along with lots of advertisements for 
Corporate Graphics).  The overall image quality on the GIF's that I 
inspected were very good, showing some excellent work on the part of 
the scanners.  I was impressed. 
 
Chicago Computer Broker states that these images are scanned for them, 
and have never been seen before... I cannot verify that one way or 
another, but the ones that I looked at were unfamiliar to me. 
 
There is NO built in and ready to use user interface on this disc. 
There is a copy of VPIC on the disc, but it is not ready to use, nor 
is there any real help in getting it running.  You had better have your 
own viewing software before you go into this disc. 
 
There is a section with 13 different viewing/editing utilities on it, 
a small boon to the SysOp, but better work on that could have been 
done, such as the 99 file section of such material on Digital Dreams. 
 
One question that keeps coming to mind is "where did these images come 
from?"  That is a burning question with SysOps these days, especially 
SysOps that want to keep any possible legal inquiries out of their 
hair.  These images, as excellent as they are, do not give a clue as 
to their ownership, so we don't know if they were scanned from original 
photos or from Playboy.  I would hope that Corporate Graphics would 
be keeping the "funny stuff" out of there, but there is no assurances 
that they have on this disc. 
 
Overall, except for the murky legal issues, this appears to be an 
excellent BBS ready disc.  If you are looking for some nice graphics 
to put online, then this is a good choice.  If you are worried about 
legal issues, then you might want to look elsewhere, as I can't say 
one way or another if this disc is "safe" or not.  If you are an end 
user, then have your own viewers ready, but otherwise, the quality of 
the work is excellent. 
 
For a change... <grin!> 
 
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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 5648
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 10/03/93  3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Tech Arsenal             Refer: NONE
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The Following is a CD-ROM "review."  The opinions expressed belong 
solely to Dave Clark, Sysop of Arsenal Computer BBS. 
 
]]]     TITLE: Tech Arsenal 
]]]      SIZE: 629 Megs 
]]]     FILES: 7441 
]]] PUBLISHER: Arsenal Computer 
]]]  CATEGORY: Shareware/BBS Ready/End User Ready 
]]]     DATED: 09-03-93 
 
No, you are not seeing things.... we here at the Arsenal really DID 
publish this disc!  <smile!>  However, lest you think that I'm going 
to be self serving here, let me emphasize one thing... I always offer 
a money back guarantee on any disc that I sell, and of course, my 
stuff is going to be given the same treatment... <smile!>  I'm going 
to give this the same going over that I do any other disc, and I'm going 
to be just as frank as I would for anyone else.  I don't play favorites 
here. 
 
Of course, let's face one fact... why in the h*ll would I make a disc 
that I would have to trash?  <SEG!>  I have been looking at everyone 
else's product, so I know what goes, and what doesn't, and I designed 
my disc accordingly. 
 
So, with that out of the way, here goes. 
 
Tech Arsenal deals solely with technical subjects, such as programming 
utilities and source code, Local Area Networking, dBase programming and 
applications, Anti-Virus utilities, Text & Hex Editors, Caching, Testing 
and Diagnostics, Drivers, Backup & Data Recovery, Computer Aided Design, 
Desqview & QEMM, and even HAM radio & Scanner material is covered on 
this disc. 
 
File dates are from September 1993 to 1990 on source code (due to the 
fact that, by and large, source code is "ageless") and the programs 
have dates ranging from September 1993 to 1991.  However, please bear 
in mind that if a filedate is 1991 or 1992, then it's because no later 
version was found. 
 
Dupliacation of filenames was kept to a strict minimum.  Why not 
entirely gone, you might ask?  Simply put, I found some duplicate 
filenames in two areas, with files that had NOTHING to do with each 
other, and in some cases, there were utilities that really did have 
application in multiple file areas, such as a programming utility that 
would be used in C/ASM, Basic, and Pascal... so it appeared in each 
section, rather than making the people interested only in one section 
have to go "hunting" for it in others.  These files are on there 
quite intentionally to make it easier to use.  However, the percentage 
of such files is VERY small. 
 
BBS readiness is very apparent (go figure!).  File listings are provided 
in PCBoard, Spitfire, and QBBS formats, with a Database of the file 
Descriptions available on the disc as well, so that you can create your 
own very easily, if you so desire.  All but the DBF files are available 
in both the referenced file subdirectory, and in a separate file 
subdirectory.  The "all in one" setup allows door users (such as myself) 
ease of use, while the file listings in each directory means that those 
that either with to run "native" (with the disc directly accessed by the 
BBS) or those with specific conversion utilities, such as TBBS SysOps, 
are not left out in the cold. 
 
The subdirectory structure is quite simple, with the files contained in 
subdirectories named TEK-01 through TEK-21.  The File listings are in 
/FILELIST, and the information for SysOps is contained in the 
subdirectory /SYSOPS.  Simple enough, eh?  <Grin!> 
 
Some additonal note should be paid to the user interface on this... 
in a rather "unusual" move, the user interface was not the usual 
program that people have come to expect, but the EZRom Door interface, 
as written by Mike Robinson.  Mike's door program, run in local mode, 
provides a very quick search engine and a very easy way to transfer 
the files to your hard drive for use.  It is easily the fastest 
CD-ROM based search engine that I have seen, and I hope that the 
exposure that the Shareware version of this program generates will 
help Mike in getting more BBS registrations for his excellent product. 
 
... continued in next message.... 
 
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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 5649
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 10/03/93  3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Total Fantasy            Refer: NONE
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The Following is a CD-ROM "review."  The opinions expressed belong 
solely to Dave Clark, Sysop of Arsenal Computer BBS. 
 
]]]     TITLE: Total Fantasy Disc 1 
]]]      SIZE: 621 Megs 
]]]     FILES: 4149 
]]] PUBLISHER: STC CDROM of Denmark 
]]]  CATEGORY: Adult CD-ROM 
]]]     DATED: 06-29-93 
 
This disc comes in a rather blatant red coloration... red disc, red 
tray, red printing, etc.  Certainly something that would be hard to not 
see sitting on the shelf... 
 
Well, here are some of the things that I noted about the disc... 
 
The disc "failed" the "louisville slugger" test... no, this does not 
mean that I took a baseball bat to the disc, although I sometimes feel 
that this would be the most useful thing to do to some discs. But in 
this case, it refers to whether or not a disc contains an image known as 
"BATTERUP.GIF."  This is one of the more tasteless images in wide 
distribution, and it consists of a woman with a baseball bat in a place 
that it really doesn't belong.  The inclusion of this image shows the 
following detrimental points: [1] that the disc is comprised of images 
that have already been seen on CD-ROM's and [2] that the publishers have 
no taste whatsoever!  <smile!> 
 
Most of the images are either culled from BBS's, or other CD-ROM's. 
I've seen a large number of the "samples" that I went through (no, I 
didn't go through the entire disc, I simply don't have the time or 
patience to do that, especially with a product like this) and found most 
of them to be rather disappointing.  The best images that I came across 
were the SPCR*.GIF series in the BUSTY subdirectory, but even those had 
some poor quality images and one was a mosaic of nothing more than three 
very small scans repeated three or four times each on a bland 
background.  Very, Very, VERY annoying. 
 
The user interface consisted of a program that would attempt to install 
the users choice of some versions of VPIC.  Yawn. 
 
Spying a directory called PENT on the disc, I checked and found that 
the very first file was described as "Julie Strain, Penthouse Pet June 
1991."  I think that someone really is asking for trouble here.  These 
images are very obviously scanned from Penthouse magazine, and the 
file descriptions openly admit this. 
 
The problem is that not only is Penthouse a copyrighted material, but 
they offer their own online service, and have been taking as militant 
a stance in enforcing their copyrights as has Playboy.  Perhaps this 
Denmark based publisher thinks that they are immune from copyright 
suits, but us BBS operators here in America are NOT granted such 
immunity.  I think that this is really asking for trouble. 
 
Needless to say, I wouldn't even THINK about running this on a BBS. 
 
This disc has files arranged by alphabet, and by a handful of 
categories. 
 
The BBS readiness (ha ha) has been supplied by putting in some alleged 
"file descriptions" of the following nature:  Each subdirectory has 
file listings with "FILES.BBS" and "FILES.BB1" on them.  The "FILES.BBS" 
listings look like this: 
 
DANAXT02.GIF Rather Graphic Text Description 
 
The FILES.BB1 listings look like this: 
 
DANAXT02.GIF  (640X480X256) Rather Graphic Text Description 
 
Needless to say, if you are running most boards, this form of file 
description is totally useless. 
 
Overall impressions:  For the end user, a totally useless interface and 
repetition of images found elsewhere make this a poor buy.  For the 
sysop, the repetition of images and the very poor file description 
format makes this one a pain and a half to use.  Add to that the fact 
that the disc has images that are somewhat dicey under the current 
applicable copyright laws, and you have a combo more suited for a 
headache commercial. 
 
Final Analysis:  Hit it, Beat it, Make it show bad CRC's. 
 
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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 5650
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 10/03/93  3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Wild Women               Refer: NONE
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The Following is a CD-ROM "review."  The opinions expressed belong 
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]]]     TITLE: Wild Women 
]]]      SIZE: 602 Megs 
]]]     FILES: 2836 
]]] PUBLISHER: Digital Concepts 
]]]  CATEGORY: Adult / BBS Ready 
]]]     DATED: 07-16-93 
 
Wild Women is something that I am kind of ambivilant on.  When I look 
at the disc itself, it strongly resembles the "look and feel" of the 
Florida Lions Den products on the exterior artwork.  Of course, this 
is not the first time that someone has "borrowed" the look and feel 
of another's artwork... <grin!> 
 
Getting beyond the rather "familiar" artwork, I got into the disc.... 
 
The BBS readyness of the disc is supplied in two forms: each directory 
has a FILES.BBS listing in it (in PCBoard Format), and all the file 
listings are in the /FILELIST subdirectory as well.  You will also find 
a ZIP file of the file listings in DBF format.  The DBF listings are a 
nice touch, and it's showing up on more and more CD-ROM's these days, 
offering the enterprising SysOp a chance to make the listings look the 
way they need them.  One annoying thing about the DBF listings was that 
they provided the file categories as separate DBF files, rather than 
having one large one with a ID field.  I personally prefer the ID field 
variant, myself. 
 
The images are obviously BBS scans originally.  I didn't see any images 
that I recalled in a quick once over, but I did recognize all the 
"major player" scanners logos.  As is to be expected in a product of 
this nature, some of the scans were excellent, some were... somewhat 
less than excellent. 
 
I found the user interface to be a bit underwhelming, as I usually do. 
The menu system was a shareware product from Pinnace Systems, and it 
worked well... but when it came to actually viewing the images with 
the menu, I ended up with a blank screen.  This happens in about 1/2 
of the discs that I look at. 
 
Looking over some of the legal textfiles in the disc, I had a few 
laughs... for example, the statement that "all of the models shown on 
this CD-Rom are of legal age to pose for these pictures, and that by 
posing for such pictures it is understood that they do not necessarily 
indulge in the acts shown or even practice any of the various sexual 
activities."  Pfft!  Lets face it, this is a collection of BBS scans... 
how is the publisher going to know all of this?  <Grin!> 
 
Another thing that I find amusing is the fact that the publisher is 
stating that the "verboten" images, such as Playboy and Compuserve, 
are not in evidence, but again, we are dealing with BBS scans here, 
with no real "back trail" to follow to insure compliance with this. 
Take this "warrantee" at your own risk. 
 
Overall, I find this a decent enough disc, with the kind of quality 
that one would expect in a BBS Scan Stills collection.  It is neither 
better or worse than any other of it's class.  The file listings make 
it easier to use online than some competing products, I'll give it that. 
 
Overall, I would give this a thumbs up... a few months ago.  It's a fine 
disc, but some BBS SysOps are getting away from traditional BBS scans 
for their online images, due to legal fears.  This one, unlike discs lik 
Digital Dreams or Amateur Models, don't have any real assurance that 
the images are NOT going to cause problems.  Therefor, it's a kind of 
gray zone that we are dealing with here. 
 
If you don't mind living in the "Gray Zone", and want a decent quality 
selection of BBS Scans, then Wild Women will probably satisfy you. 
If you are an individual, with your own viewing software, then this 
disc will be about the same as other similar collections. 
 
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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 5651
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 10/01/93  8:49a
Subj: Re: PANASONIC CD                        Refer: NONE
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Hello Boris!

Still using (and enjoying) the Mitsumi you sold me, but I have a
few questions on the new Panasonics.

(1) What is the difference between the various models?
    (562, 562B, 563)

(2) Are these caddyless drives?

(3) Can I run the drive off the SBPro board and, if so, is the drive
    available without the interface?

(4) Does the bundled SB version come with TWO cards?  Can you post
    the price and some specs please.  Is it available with the SB16?

(5) How much is the drive without the free T-shirt? <g>

                                              - Arnie :+}

P.S.  Do you know if there is a more recent ROM revision available
      for the Mitsumi?  It chokes on some discs.


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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 5652
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/01/93  8:40a
Subj: Review of SHAREWARE CDs                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Bob!

   BJ> I was approached by one shareware producer to do a review, which
   BJ> I'm willing to try, but I haven't heard from them since. Mike
   BJ> Shannon posted a few "duplicate file" comparisons between shareware
   BJ> CDs a while back. How much more than that is possible to review
   BJ> would require some thought. Obviously one couldn't try out several  
BJ>
   BJ> thousand programs and report on each of them.

I won't stock a Shareware CD in our shop unless I receive a demo copy to
review.  Some of the producers don't ship demos - that's their prerogative. But
I stand behind every disc we sell.  If I think a shareware disc is junk, I
won't put it on the shelf.  I didn't get into this business to specialize in
refunding unhappy customers.

As a result, I have developed a fairly good system for checking shareware
discs, just as I admire the concept of your system for reviewing the adult
material.

There are a couple of producers who send me demos of everything they press.
These demos usually arrive on the same day as the first copies get to the major
distributors.  As a result, I can get the review done within two or three days
of general public availability.

As far as trying out "several thousand programs" is concerned, one does not
have to actually try the programs on the disc to review it.  Shareware file
descriptions abound on all of the local BBSs, and these discs are nought but a
compilation of these files.  The value of the disc lies in:

     (1) the freshness of the files
     (2) the absence of multiple versions of the same program
     (3) "truth in advertising" (fresh dates on old files is a "no-no")
     (4) the overall organization of the disc
     (5) the front end
     (6) whether or not the disc is BBS ready
     (7) attractive packaging, liner notes, readable title on edge
     (8) installation ease/options/problems

etc, etc, etc.

Duplicate file comparisons are useful, but only if one is intending to
purchase more than one disc (unless a single disc is full of internal
duplication). With the exception of the few humongous BBSs in the country, the
average SysOp is only going to have a single CD-ROM on line at any one time.

As far as the "ALL-1993" type discs are concerned, it is imperative that some
old files be available to an end user buying his first CD-ROM.  Where would he
be, for instance, with a disc full of archived files if he doesn't have the
pre-1993 unarchivers?

   BJ> Also, according to Lee Noga, the shelf-life of a shareware CD
   BJ> is about 90 days (I think I got that right), so any review would
   BJ> almost have to come out in parallel with the CD's release. That
   BJ> might pose some logistical problems.

Not really (see above).

I have made an offer to all producers of shareware roms, which I will repeat
here:  Send a demo copy of your shareware releases to Country Fair Software and
I will provide you with a publishable review (hard copy at your option).  I
cannot guarantee a favorable review (my standards for shareware are high), but
it will be honest and responsible.

I'd be happy to contribute these reviews to the echo, if you'd prefer not to
get involved with reviews of shareware discs.

                                                        - Arnie :+}

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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 5653
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 10/01/93  8:51a
Subj: Re: CD for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

.

Hello Jeff -

I'm willing to trade any three of the following discs for Carmen
Sandiego, and any two of them for the Karoake disc:

HyperText Electronic Library, release 6 - Incl. PC Interrupts and Operating
                      Platform Functions, C Language Library Reference, ADA
                      Language Reference Manual, Secret Guide to Computers,
                      Complete DOS Reference Manual, ARJ Reference, From
                      Ventura To Hypertext, Microsoft RTFS (Rich Text Format
                      Specification), CALS 28001 (Standard Generalized Markup
                      Language), Astronomy, Bible (King James), Professional
                      Mail Management, Navigation, more

FontMaster CD Library - High quality fonts (NOT shareware), complete with
                      utilities.  Includes Avant Garde, Baskerville,
                      Benguiat, Bodoni, Broadway, Calligraphy, Chancellor,
                      Charter, Cooper Bold, Friz Quadrata, Garamond, Goudy,
                      Greek, Korinna, Letter Gothic, Olde English, Optima,
                      Palatino, Park Avenue, Regency, Schoolbook, Script,
                      Signature, Souvenir, more (100+ dirs, 5000+ files)

Magazine Article Summaries, Jan '84 - May '92 (w/search software) includes
                      32 MAGAZINES IN FULL TEXT (Compute!, Natural History,
                      Newsweek, Omni, Rolling Stone, Smithsonian, Technology
                      Review, US News, 16 more), plus 300 in summary format

Marketing Master      Custom search and sort, print labels, mail and call.
                      Includes Fortune 1500, Government, Colleges and
                      Universities, Manufacturers, Libraries, Hospitals and
                      Public Utilities.

Dataware Demo Disc    Two excellent retrieval engines (one is hypertext),
                      with more than a dozen usable data bases.

Hypertext Information Base Library for AIX version 3.2 (for InfoExplorer)
                      Directories include ADA, AIX, CXX, FORTRAN, GRAPH,
                      HARDWARE, NAV, PASCAL, PROG and UIPROG)

Tax Preparation and Business Programs - (Shareware Compilation) Directories
                      include BUSINESS, CHURCH, DAYO, HOME, MISC, PLANNER,
                      STOCK, and TAX

LaserTax              Tax Preparation tool and Tax Form Library.  Requires
                      Windows 3.1 and 4 mb RAM.  Sound card recommended but
                      not required.  National support via BBS.

Federal Register      Approx 500 megabytes of data including the entire
                      text of Vol 56, No. 100 (05-23-91) through Vol 56,
                      No. 226 (11-22-91).

                                                  - Arnie :+}

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From: SCOTT PERRY                            Number: 5654
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 10/01/93  2:32p
Subj: Industry changes                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     You're right about the advertisements in Computer Shopper, etc.  Check the
classifieds section of Computer Shopper.  I ran an ad in there, that was NOT
for adult material, and I was ashamed to show the ad to anyone.  MOST of their
classified ads are for adult stuff.

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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 5655
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/30/93  4:59p
Subj: SCANNING                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Services offered:  I have a color flatbed scanner at my disposal and am willing
to do custom scans for people.  Will do anything needed in any format. Privacy
guaranteed.  Capable of up to 8.5 inch by 14 inch, 600 dpi, 24 bit color as
well as gray scale etc.  Can do any format type, jpg, gif, pcx etc etc etc. 
For more info, leave a message here.

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 5656
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 10/04/93  7:12p
Subj: Starvector Software                     Refer: 9081
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Not too tough to do, I use to research stuff at my father's law offic
-> was younger...guess you could start by:

Drop it.  EOT.

tim
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From: JIM MEINHARDT                          Number: 5657
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 10/02/93 11:21p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Boris,

       Just wanted to let you know I got the Hobbes OS/2 and other discs
today.  The Hobbes is truley a bargain.  It's got close to 650 Megs and
a good interface.  Also, thanks for the help with the double spin Panasonic.
I had it installed and running in about 20 minutes.  I tested the drive on some
gifs and then installing OS/2...I was very pleased with the increased
speed over my single speed.



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From: DANIEL HAGAN                           Number: 5658
  To: PAUL T.NELSON                            Date: 10/03/93 10:59p
Subj: Order                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > have to prepare a presentation for our school board next month to
 > help
 > convince them that our school needs several CD stations for students.
 >  I'm
 > looking for anything that will "wow" them...
                                   ^^^

Not sure what "WOW" effect you are looking for, but you might shoot a message
to Lee Noga about the Busty Babes disk <G>  (just kidding 8-)

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From: BILL COOMBES                           Number: 5659
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/19/93 11:52a
Subj: TOSHIBA-CD ROM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm thinking on purchasing the Toshiba xm 3401b internal CD ROM. Can anyone
give me some information on it?
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From: BENJAMIN SMITH                         Number: 5660
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/04/93 12:32a
Subj: Which CD Rom?                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a good external CD Rom in the range of $200-$350.  Does
anyone have any suggestions?  I figured this would be the place to ask.
I would appreciate any input.  Thanx.


... I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere!
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From: JOHN LOVING                            Number: 5661
  To: THOMAS ALLRED                            Date: 10/02/93 12:58a
Subj: External Cd Rom For Sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 09-28-93 THOMAS ALLRED wrote to ALL... 
 
 TA> i have an external cd rom drive for sale cheap it is a BSR6800MX i 
 TA> dont have  
 TA> the controller card but the drive is sold by DAK industries and is 
 TA> made by  
 TA> MITSUMI so i am sure one of those companies will sell you a card. the 
 TA> cd rom  
 TA> is mine and it works fine the card was stolen along with my computer 
 TA> that is  
 TA> why i don't have the card now i bought a new computer an internal 
 TA> cd-rom 
 TA>  LOOKING TO SELL CHEAP OR TRADE MAKE ME AN OFFER!!!! 
 TA>   
 TA> WILL TRADE FOR X-RATED CD ROM TITLES NOT MALE GAY 
 TA> WILL TRADE FOR 9600 OR FASTER MODEM INTERNAL W/MANUAL 
 TA> WILL TRADE FOR A NX-1040 PRINTER 
 TA> WILL TRADE FOR ?????????????????? 
 TA>   
 TA> i will gaurantee the drive to work fine or i will refund your money or 
 TA> trade 
 TA>   
 Jl> Well if you're interested in the FAO Gold cd then I'll trade you one for 
     the cdrom.                  
                                John 
 
                         
 
 
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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 5662
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/03/93  6:29a
Subj: NO10 vs Pier 3                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am ready to purchase a new cd disc for my bbs.  In anyone's
opinion, which would have newer files or which do you feel
is the better choice?  I have seen NO10 advertised for a special
price of $39.00.  Is this a fair price?  Thanks for any comments.


... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 5663
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 10/03/93  7:04a
Subj: T&A 2 trade for another                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the new T&A 2 from Profit Press that I want to trade for
any other Adult CD Disc.  Thanks.

... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 5664
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/03/93 10:08a
Subj: CD-ROM BLOW-OUT SALE                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

OCTOBER SPECIAL ON NEW CD-ROM'S
BUY ANY 10 DIFFERENT CD-ROM'S FOR JUST $ 125.00
BUY ALL 40 CD-ROM'S FOR $ 450.00
FREE SHIPPING
---------------------------- TITLES ----------------------------
1.  OS/2 ARCHIVES                  2.  SIMTEL 20
3.  MPC WIZARD                     4.  GIFS GALORE
5.  GARBO MSDOS/MAC                6.  CICA WINDOWS DISK
7.  QRZ HAM RADIO                  8.  WORLD TRAVELER
9.  WINDOWARE                      10. TOO MANY TYPEFONTS
11. PC-SIG WORLD OF WINDOWS        12. TECHNOTOOLS
13. SOUND SENSATIONS               14. SO MUCH SHAREWARE 2
15. PHOENIX VER. 3                 16. PC-SIG WORLD OF GAMES
17. OUR SOLAR SYSTEM               18. MOTHER OF ALL CLIPART
19. HAM RADIO                      20. GUINNESS WORLD RECORDS
21. ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUND          22. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES
23. DESKTOP BOOKSHOP               24. DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLES
25. COMPLETE BOOKSHOP              26. CLIPART HEAVEN
27. CLIPART GOLIATH                28. BIBLES & RELIGION
29. ANECDOTES                      30. VGA SPECTRUM
31. SELECTWARE                     32. PC-SIG HOME & BUSINESS
33. ORIGINAL SHAREWARE             34. LEARNING ADVENTURE
35. JOKES & PRANKS                 36. GAME ARENA
37. FONT MASTER                    38. CLAIFORNIA COLLECTION
39. BUSINESS ASSISTANT             40. 1001 UTILITIES
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I ACCEPT ONLY CHECKS OR MONEY ORDERS AT THIS TIME
SEND ORDERS TO:
STEVE GREENO
2239 E. BROADWAY
TUCSON AZ. 85719
FAX # 1-602-292-0497

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From: SERGIO MASCARENHAS                     Number: 5665
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/01/93  1:31p
Subj: Os/2                                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hi, Mike!

MS> We will in about a week!  CD-OS2Box is being pressed right now, and it
  > will have ONLY version 2.0+ files.  Around 325mb or so, and fully
  > BBS-compatible.  Now taking pre-orders at $29 w/ free shipping, or they
  > are $29 + $4 shipping after released.  This WILL BE the best OS/2 CD
  > on the market!
  > Call any time if you're interested.

I'd like to receive this CD when available.

Thanks in advance!

Sergio

PS: You have my address in Brazil and my Mastercard number.
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 5666
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 10/03/93  8:53a
Subj: Re: Dealers Wanted!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 02 Oct 93  00:42:38, I heard Scott Raley shout to Kevin Plummer:

SR> I am interested.
SR> Send me some info and what kind of prices you have.
SR>  
SR> thanks
SR> Scott Raley

Well would be happy to, But you necleted to send a phone number, Or address...


                   .....|<evin



                   

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From: CLARKE ULMER                           Number: 5667
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/01/93 12:09p
Subj: ACTOR & ACTRESS CD-ROM!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE                            September 22, 1993
 
FOR INFORMATION CONTACT: 
The Movie BBS/Clarke Ulmer Jr.
P.O. Box 1793  Dept PR1  Bowling Green Station
New York City, NY 10274-1134, USA
Data: (718) 939-5462
Voice: (718) 321-3551
 
 
PREMIERE OF ACTOR AND ACTRESS COLLECTION VOLUME 1, NO. 1
 
After breaking new ground in the Bulletin Board System world four years
ago this month, The Movie BBS now releases the first in a series of
Actor and Actress CD-ROMs.
 
Having earned a reputation for high quality computer graphics, The
Movie BBS now presents a collection of original photos of your favorite
actresses and actors.  Photos include publicity, candid, portrait, 
"cheesecake" and "beefcake" poses.  You'll see your favorite celebs as
never before from early in their careers to the present.
 
300 PHOTOS
 
The disc contains a total of 300 digital reproductions of actual 
photographs in 256 color GIF file format.  Some of the celebrities
include: Adrienne Barbeau, Clint Eastwood, Sybil Danning, Sean Connery,
Harrison Ford, Michael Douglas, Joan Collins, Melanie Griffith, 
Apollonia, Robert Mitchum, Cary Grant, Humphrey Bogart, Gary Cooper,
Rock Hudson, Mark Hamill, William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, Raquel Welch,
Linda Hamilton, Jenny Agutter, Nastassja Kinski, Deidre Hall, Pam 
Grier, Tony Randall, Henry Fonda, John Wayne, Jodie Foster, Michael 
Caine, Tina Louise, Marta Kristen, Angela Cartwright, Kristy Swanson, 
Christian Slater, Marilyn Monroe, Sylvester Stallone, Caroline Munro,
Robert Redford, Elizabeth Taylor, Farrah Fawcett and many, many more!
 
PHOTO QUALITY
 
All images are photo quality and viewable on a variety of systems 
(DOS, MAC, etc.).  The novelty of these images will appeal to
collectors and movie fans!
 
REQUIREMENTS
 
System requirements for viewing images are a CD-ROM drive, CD-ROM
driver software and a VGA or higher display.  A customized interface
for DOS and Windows is included as well as Shareware viewers for DOS,
MAC, etc.
 
DEALERS
 
Dealers/Vendors/Distributors, there is an AUTO-DISPLAY function 
built-in that continuously displays images.  This can be used for 
in-store/window setups to attract customers.
 
ACTOR AND ACTRESS COLLECTION VOLUME 1, NO.1 is available directly
from The Movie BBS for $39.95 (US Funds), add $3.00 for shipping
and handling.  Make checks or money orders to:
 
Clarke Ulmer/The Movie BBS
P.O. Box 1793  Dept PR1  Bowling Green Station
New York City, NY 10274-1134, USA
 
The Movie BBS can also be contacted on the following online
services: CompuServe as 76605,2173, DELPHI as THEMOVIEBBS, America
Online as ClarkeU, GEnie as C.ULMER1 and Prodigy as CLARKE ULMER

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 5668
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 10/04/93  2:22a
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Hacker Chronicles        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey Dave,
  I find your reviews very helpful however I don't have the space to save them
for future reference. Do you keep them in a file that is available for FREQ?
Thanks for the service!

Michael Sells


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5669
  To: DAVID H. CALVARESE                       Date: 10/03/93 11:54a
Subj: BIG CD-ROM PRICE LIST                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS@> **********************
MS@> Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00

 DHC> What info can you give me on this disc?

It contains the Seedmaster KJV, ASV & 7 versions, Strongs numbers, Greek &
Hebrew lexicons, and more.....we have it in stock for $18.95 plus shipping.
800-547-7817 to order.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5670
  To: GARY GILMORE                             Date: 10/03/93 12:06p
Subj: Need a CD                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 GG> I'm looking for the cheapest price on the 
 GG> "Shareware Vault/Gold" CDROM.
 
We have it in stock for $24.95 plus $4 shipping...add $4.50 for COD.
800-547-7817 to order.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5671
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 10/03/93 12:08p
Subj: Buyer Beware!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Have you tried the Better Business 
Bureau in your area?

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5672
  To: BRUCE COPPIN                             Date: 10/03/93 12:09p
Subj: Re: Canadian cd-rom source              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BC> Can you provide the US dollar price for CD Rom Mixed Up Mother Goose.
 BC> Thanks.  Also it might help to list both Canadian and American prices?
 
Our price in US$ is $19.50 plus shipping.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5673
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 10/03/93 12:10p
Subj: REVIEW OF STAREWARE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BF> I suspect the Feds are REAL ticked at the Oklahoma 
 BF> folks over the Tony Davis
 BF> case right now....


From what I just read in the October issue of Boardwatch, I'd say so.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5674
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 10/03/93 12:12p
Subj: ADULT CD ROM'S                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BF> Having met Lee at the One BBS Con, I can state 
 BF> definitevely that the lassie on
 BF> the cover of Busty Babes is NOT her....

Ahhhhhh shucks! <g>

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5675
  To: DAVID H. CALVARESE                       Date: 10/03/93 12:13p
Subj: BIG CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DHC>      ßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßß             ßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßß
 DHC> ÚÄÂÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
 DHC> ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÂÄ¿
 DHC> ³o³ MS@>                                           
 
I believe your mail program needs some work <g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5676
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 10/03/93 12:14p
Subj: your order                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have checked with the US Postal Service and they show your order as being
received on September 28, 1993 at 2 P.M. which is 4 days from the day it was
sent inclusive.  Now, why did you send me another nasty message?

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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 5677
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/03/93  1:21p
Subj: 7th Guest for trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking to trade 7th Guest will all the stuff, box, video, docs, for an adult
CD plus a couple of bucks.  Looking specifically for Asian Ladies.  Not a
must, but will take that one first.

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5678
  To: JEFF WORERTZ                             Date: 10/03/93  9:21p
Subj: CD Player/Lost                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Jeff!

Well haven't heard from you in a few days, hope you are getting my messages!
Cd player never showed up, will check with my bank in the morning to see if the
check cleared. Could you please let me know what is up? I hope it is just a mix
up in the mail but I am starting to worry.
Take care

Pat

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From: ALAN ORNDORFF                          Number: 5679
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 10/03/93  7:10a
Subj: os/2 cd-rom                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DP>I hope the above is of some use when deciding if you wish to try the OS/2Box

Yes, very much.  I think I'll go ahead and order it.  thanks for your
time.

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From: COREY BICCUM                           Number: 5680
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/02/93 12:32p
Subj: cdrom cable                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Heya everyone, can anyone tell me where I can get a cable to connect my new
Panasonic 562b drive to my new soundblaster pro card?  It's the little cable
with four wires.  It never came with my drive or my sb pro card.  I called
creative labs and they don't sell it.  where do I get one of these?  can I call
around computer stores in town?  Or does this have to be baught off of
Panasonic??  what gives???  Also, will this allow me to play audio cd's thru my
soundblaster card?  help please??


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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 5681
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/02/93  9:29a
Subj: BIG CD-ROM PRICE LIST                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hi Mike

 > The next all Windows CD on the horizon looks like
 > either Night Owl Windows,
 > or CD-Winbox 2.0.  Not sure about delivery dates, but
 > as soon as we have
 > either, we'll be posting in here.  A new catalog is on
 > the way to you.
 > (Just came back from the printer with a carload of
 > 'em!)

Will be watching the mail box with intrest...

..Red..

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From: STEVE PESANT                           Number: 5682
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/02/93 10:40p
Subj: Re: DEALER PRICING!                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All Cd-rom Dealers <=-

 MS> Pier 3 * Pier 2 * Pier 1 * CD OS/2Box * CD Powerbox 1.01 * CD Winbox

 MS> If you are interested in any of these titles, please give us a call!
 MS> Starvector Software * 509-457-2892 (voice) * 509-457-2966 (fax)

Hi there Mike. So how have things been going lately?

Sorry about all the delays and annoyance I probably caused you during the
summer...I got extremely busy and actually went out of town for a while and
well, unfortunately never got around to finishing up those orders..SORRY 8(.

Anyways...I've got my butt in gear now and am a little more organized than
before...And as always. I'm looking for some more CD's for my BBS... Anyways,
could you please FREQ you're most CURRENT and UP-TO-DATE CD-ROM PRICE LIST
to my system through FIDONET, at 1:153/217.0...It would be greatly appreciated.

Could you also include the releavnt info on shipping your products to the
Vancouver, BC area too!!

-=Cheers=-
        Steve. (Hope to do some business in the very near future!!)


... Open mouth, insert foot, echo internationally.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.11

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From: PETER YOUNG                            Number: 5683
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/02/93  8:08p
Subj: BIG CD-ROM LIST 1/2                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 practicle to try to write one that would be compatible with it.  One was
needed that was faster and tighter.  Enter 2.x .  Although you can't unzip 2.x
archives with 1.1 all you really need to do is use the 2.x version of PKUnzip
and there's no worries.

 CW>         on the other hand arj is only slightly behind in some aspects
 CW> and better in others. it at least is gonna unarc any of it's files with
 CW> no trouble.

True enough but although it's speed has increased dramatically since it first
came o
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5684
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/03/93 11:28a
Subj: Re:  CD's for Women                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <10-01-93 11:03> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>>  LN> 69:23/23.

Crosslinked message bases--We belong to several adult link nets, and that
address is my KINKNET one--<blush>....

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5685
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 10/03/93 11:31a
Subj: Re: REVIEW OF STAREWARE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-30-93 16:05> Brice Fleckenstein wrote:

BF>> I suspect the Feds are REAL ticked at the Oklahoma folks over the
BF>> Tony Davis

Let's just say coincidently since that bust, the FEDS have had a real interest
in these FIDO CD-ROM message bases--It has been confirmed at least to my
satisfaction, the FEDS are trying to ID the distribs that deal in the seculiar.
We have tried to protect our own by passing this info on, but some of the
distribs don't care--But there are many that do though :)

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5686
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 10/03/93 11:36a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes for Sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KP>> I have Busty Babes the one with Bam Bam on it, It's BB #1, Will sell

Needs to have the words, 'Graphic Software' on the disc as well to be a BB vol
I, Version 1--

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 5687
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 10/04/93  5:47a
Subj: Re: CD for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Sorry, thanks for the offer, but none of those sound like anything of my
interest.

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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 5688
  To: RUSSELL NABER                            Date: 09/27/93 10:55p
Subj: Review of STAREware                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <23 Sep 93  20:04:36>, Russell Naber (1:15/24) writes:
 > BJ> Sorry, no. I've only kept paper copies of them.
 >Well thanks anyway.
 > * Origin: BLACK DIAMOND BBS, GREYBULL WY , 307-765-2027 (1:15/24)
Hey you up there in Greybull! Greetings from Laramie! I'm only using this BBS
from Casper. I have most of the recent reviews saved to text files. IF you send
me a 3.5" disk and $1.50, I'll send them back to ya. Send to Ryan Denke, 519
Downey Hall, Laramie, Wy 82070. I got them starting at Stareware, PGG1, EE2,
GOV1.
 


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From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                     Number: 5689
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/04/93  2:51p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ> JD> if my expectations of the contents BJ> JD> on the specific disk), that
I be  allowed to send it back .
BJ>
BJ> What record store do you shop at? I've never had one that
BJ> offered to
BJ> take back an audio CD just because I didn't like the
BJ> contents. I fail to
BJ> see how computer CDs should be treated any differently.

I can listen to the radio, and buy records for the songs, or musical groups I
like.  And you usually spend around $20 for an audio CD.  I would have been
happy with a BBS to call so I could donwload samples if nothing else, but I
was getting is "I spent 25 grand to put this together, it's not trash"
response.  I don't care if 25 million was spent on it, I would like to know
what it is I'm buying (a record store will often let you hear it in the
store), and if I can't know that much, be able to return it or exchange it.

BJ> Osadciw, and others) have openly offered to exchange
BJ> unsatisfactory CDs
And that is why I asked if the vendor of the disk I was originally looking at
offered such an exchange/refund policy.  Look, I don't think I was asking too
much here.  I asked if the vendor stood behind his claims that the disk was
quality work...  He reply was that it was all new images...  That quote made
me even more concerned because I have no way of knowing the quality of his
images...  As far as I know it could be GIF's of the guy's next door neigbor,
with many images of almost the same pose.  Do you go to a book store and buy a
book, without atleast being able to read the back cover?

BJ> for other selections - WHETHER THEY SOLD THE ORIGINAL CD OR
BJ> NOT -  and
BJ> they all should be praised for taking that stance.
And I do praise for such..  I commened there commitment to stand ebhind what
they sell.  And to have enough confidence in there products, to be able
encourage people to trade up to them (from others)..

BJ> You sound like one of those types of people who always want
BJ> someone else to be responsible for their own bad decisions. Life ISN'T
BJ> my friend. As the old woman said: "You pays your money and
BJ> you takes your choice." If you make a purchase (of anything) based on
BJ> your choice." If you make a purchase (of anything) based on poor or
BJ> inadequate information, that's YOUR problem and no one
BJ> else's.
And as I've already said, if I can't get better information on this, it's not
a deal.  All the seller wanted to say was it was good and original, R rated
stuff mostly.  I do not know the sellers reputation, not to any fault of his,
and the fact the he is unwilling to stand behind his work, or his claims,
makes the deal sound not so good.  I am not accusing anyone of deception, but
as this message proves, alot can get lost in translation.  I'm sick of having
to defend my belief that if a seller is not willing to stand behind his
product, that a person should be concerned...


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From: ELDON WAKEFIELD                        Number: 5690
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/04/93  7:50a
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following for sale asking 110.00 for all and will pay the shipping.
 MegaRom No 1
 Mega A/V Audio and Visual
 Mega WinOS/2
 Cica MicroSoft Windows
 Shareware Studio No 1
 Lion Shareware
 11 Caddies
These disk are BBS ready. If anyone you may reply here or call me at 
(706)-561-7856 Thanks --- Eldon
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From: SHAWN LAFONTAINE                       Number: 5691
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/03/93 11:10a
Subj: Sega Genesis Carts                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Genesis Carts 4-sale:

     Sonic 1...............$20.00
     Sonic 2...............$35.00
     Altered Beast.........$20.00
     Lakers vs Celtic......$25.00
     Olympic Gold..........$35.00

** More are on the way, so stay tuned! **
 leave a message here, or call me at home (best bet)
                    (614)354-2197

Have any videogame carts/controld decks to sell/trade?


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From: ALAN ORNDORFF                          Number: 5692
  To: COREY BICCUM                             Date: 10/04/93 12:59a
Subj: cdrom cable                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >Panasonic 562b drive to my new soundblaster pro card?  It's the little cable
  >with four wires.  It never came with my drive or my sb pro card.  I called
  >creative labs and they don't sell it.  where do I get one of these?  can I
  >Panasonic??  what gives???  Also, will this allow me to play audio cd's thru
  >my soundblaster card?  help please??

I had the similar prob with a toshiba cd rom drive and the sb 16 asp.
If you call creative labs back, they CAN supply you with a name and
phone number to call.  You call the number, they ask you for the drive
manufacturer and the maker of the sound card.  they then ship you the
cable.  cost was something like $12.  yes to the second question

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From: LARRY ROBINSON                         Number: 5693
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/04/93 11:33a
Subj: CD DISKS                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

IF ANYONE OUT THERE WANTS THEIR FLOPPIES TRANSFERED TO CD GIVE ME A
CALL. I HAVE VERY REASONABLE RATES AND QUICK TURNAROUND.
LARRY ROBINSON
448 SEARCHLIGHT DRIVE
LAS VEGAS, NV  89110
(702)453-9798
(702)375-1285

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5694
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/29/93  5:41a
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Closeout                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>JL>> Computer Works is having a closeout sale on all adult CD-Roms. 
 
LN>Curious as to whether or not I think I know why your doing this--I think 
  >I do, and all I can say, is your smart--But T&A disc's won't hurt ya, 
  >and I see your blowing out 'Southern Beauties'-- Overstock perhaps ? 
 
I guess I can rethink which titles.  I just don't want to risk any 
chance of going to jail or paying large fines for pornography.  I live 
in Alabama, which is one of the worst states as far as the laws go.  The 
thing is, I am not real clear as to how they define obscene.  If you are 
certain that T&A discs such as Southern Beauties and Busty Babes Vol 2 
are safe, let me know.  I wouldn't mind carrying titles like that. 
Thanks for the message.  I appreciate it! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5695
  To: TIGER MOSES                              Date: 09/29/93  9:58p
Subj: Roms                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TM>Hello fellow sysops, looking for opinions.  On these nice BBS 
  >ready cdroms we're buyign here, how are you allowing access? 
  >Are you setting up the dirs on your software or using programs 
  >like ROMDOOR?  Who's done both and has a strong opinion? 
  >* SPITFIRE v3.3 
 
If you are using Spitfire, as it appears, SF-Rom is definitely the best 
way to run a CD-Rom online.  If not, EZ-Rom is the same program for 
other BBSes which use door.sys user info file.  This makes running a 
CD-Rom faster and set up is much easier.  You can even alternate several 
CD-Roms online if you like.  The current file names which are available 
on Computer Works BBS are called SFROM120.ZIP and EZROM120.ZIP. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5696
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/03/93  9:07a
Subj: Lowest CD-Rom Prices Yet!               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MS>I don't see Pier on that list!  If you would like GREAT dealer pricing, 
  >let me know.  We have 1, 2, and the newly released 3 in stock. 
 
Thanks for the call, Mike.  It's on the list now! <G> 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5697
  To: CHRIS BAKER                              Date: 10/03/93  9:10a
Subj: Re: Monster Media `93 - N               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CB>JL> Does this one have the file lists for Spitfire BBSes?  The file 
     >name is sffiles.bbs including names, sizes, dates. 
 
CB>This one has a directory format which includes a listing with 
  >filename, size, date and description. This is one of several 
  >different formats to help make the conversion to other BBS'easier. 
 
Thanks, Chris.  That will be very helpful.  That format will work fine 
with SF-Rom and EZ-Rom.  I appreciate the info. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5698
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/03/93 10:24a
Subj: CD-Rom Closeout!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ> JL> Computer Works is having a closeout sale on all adult CD-Roms. 
 
BJ>If/when you get to the "dumping" stage, gimme a call. Might be 
  >interested in a lot purchase. 
 
Thanks, Bob.  I'll keep you in mind.  So far, they are selling real 
well.  I don't think I will have to do much unloading. <G>  Btw, Busty 
Vol 1 Rel 2 is on the way.  Thanks. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5699
  To: DAVID H. CALVARESE                       Date: 10/03/93 10:33a
Subj: BIG CD-ROM PRICE LIST                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Holy Bible/Christian Shareware 
 
DHC>What info can you give me on this disc? 
 
Hi David.  I recently checked this disc out for someone else.  It is 
basically running versions of the Online Bible 6.1 and Seed Master.  It 
is pretty good, but not for BBSes.  I have been in search of a Christian 
shareware CD-Rom for a while, but no luck so far. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5700
  To: GARY GILMORE                             Date: 10/03/93 10:45a
Subj: Need a CD                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GG>I'm looking for the cheapest price on the "Shareware Vault/Gold" CDROM. 
 
We sell Software Vault - The Gold Collection for $27 plus $4 shipping & 
handling for 2 Day Priority Mail.  If COD, the S&H is $6 instead of $4. 
Give us a call if interested.  Thanks. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders 24 Hours/Day 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5701
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/03/93  7:56p
Subj: CD-Rom Closeout!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Computer Works is having a closeout sale on all adult CD-Roms. 
The following discs are all for sale for $29.00 to adults only over the 
age of 21 while supplies last: 
 
***************************** $29.00 Each ****************************** 
 
101 Sex Positions Part 1 SOLD OUT       Luscious Ladies        SOLD OUT 
101 Sex Positions Part 2 SOLD OUT       My Private Collection  SOLD OUT 
Adult Palate Volume 1    SOLD OUT       NightWatch Interactive SOLD OUT 
Adult Reference Library  SOLD OUT       PC-Pix Volume 2 
Animation Fantasies Vol 1               PC-Pix Volume 3 
Animation Fantasies Vol 2               Pork-Ware 1 
Asian Ladies                            Pork-Ware 2 
Busty Babes V1 Rel 2     SOLD OUT       Private Pictures 
Busty Babes V1 Rel 3     SOLD OUT       Seymore Butts          SOLD OUT 
Digital Dancing          SOLD OUT       Seventh Heaven 
Digital Dreams                          Southern Beauties      SOLD OUT 
Ecstasy Hot Pics Vol 1   SOLD OUT       Stareware 
Erotic Encounters Vol 1                 Storm I 
Erotic Encounters Vol 2  SOLD OUT       Storm II 
Hidden Obsessions        SOLD OUT       Storm III 
GBL Alternative Lifestyles              Total Fantasy Disc 1   SOLD OUT 
Hot Pix Volume 2                        Visual Fantasies       SOLD OUT 
Hot Pix Volume 3 
Hot Pix Volume 4 
Hot Pix Volume 5 
 
***************************** $29.00 Each ****************************** 
 
As you can see, they are selling fast.  When these titles are gone, we 
will no longer be carrying the adult titles.  Get 'em before they're 
gone! 
 
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales!    Download catalog1.zip for our latest 
(205) 793-4481 Voice            list of available CD-Roms & prices. 
(205) 671-0092 BBS              Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5702
  To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                       Date: 10/02/93  7:21p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >then in 30 or 90 days, send me a bill.  What I was asking is that if 
  >I find your CD-Rom does not live up to my expectation based the 
  >claims of yourself and others (IE: anyone else who comments on the 
  >specific disk), that I be  allowed to send it back and request a 
  >refund.  Your asking people to buy  somthing sight unseen, telling 
  >the consumer that if you don't like it once you  see it, oh well. 
  >If this disk is as good as you say it is, then what is your 
  >concern? 
 
Hello Jean-Claude.  I just thought I would give you a dealer's 
perspective on this.  Lee's CD-Roms are among the best available. 
There will always be a few who dislike what they get.  When this person 
sends the disc back, what is the dealer to do with it?  Would it bother 
you to receive a supposedly new disc and find out that it has already 
made it's rounds through someone else's drive?  Granted, the disc IS as 
good as new, but many people would be unhappy getting a slightly used 
product for a new price.  It is either that, or the dealer loses money 
on the return even though he/she delivered the product in perfect 
condition as requested.  It is a tough call, and one every dealer must 
decide on.  Personally, I have accepted returns on non-packaged CD's 
without question so far.  Fortunately, my customers have treated me 
right, and there has been no significant problems.  Just another 
opinion. ;) 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 5703
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 10/03/93 10:18p
Subj: Dave Reed vs GroupWare                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Personally, if I were running a business and only won $1 in the situation
> above, I'd consider it a victory...mainly because the guy with the big
> mouth would be eating both my court costs and his.
Unfortunately Dave dodged his lenders by declaring Bankcrupty (Ch. 13). He has
no valuable assets. More info about him can be obtained thru US Bankcupty
Court, Spokane, WA. To sue him is a waste of time for my company and lawyer.
(Grahn & Kyaw law firm is our corporate law firm)
DAve Reed is also a former employee of GroupWare who has been terminated due to
his merit. I wish him a good luck in his future. TTYL
 
Ismail Arslangiray
 GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX 

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From: JOHN COLEMAN                           Number: 5704
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/03/93  8:42p
Subj: test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Testing to see if we are connected yet!!!


         The System BBS       Redwood City Ca.    415/365-1246
      Vbbs 6.10   Fido 143/222    VirtualNet 1415005  2 Gig on-line !!

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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 5705
  To: MACY BERGOON                             Date: 10/04/93  8:32a
Subj: CD's...                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  
 MB> I'll offer you $15 bucks shipped to my door. 
  
 Macy, thanks for the offer but no thanks. I'll just take it to next 
 month's local computer swap meet. >Paul< 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50  "Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers." 

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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 5706
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 10/04/93  8:43a
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Total Fan                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 10-03-93 Dave Clark wrote to All Users... 
 
 DC> The Following is a CD-ROM "review."  The opinions expressed belong  
 DC> solely to Dave Clark, Sysop of Arsenal Computer BBS.  
 DC>   
 DC> ]]]     TITLE: Total Fantasy Disc 1  
  
 Dave, thanks for reviewing this title for us. I sent out a msg a couple 
 of weeks ago requesting to know if anyone new if this was a "rehash" of

 other CDs out there but did not get a definitive answer until now. Thanks 
 again. >Paul< 
 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50  "Bad is never good until worse happens -- Danish proverb" 

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From: ROBERT NEE                             Number: 5707
  To: PETER POWELL                             Date: 10/01/93  9:12a
Subj: CDROM Drive 4 Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PP>I have been looking for a cd rom . How old IS it . s

Sorry, the drive has been sold.  Thanks for the reply.

Robert F. Nee



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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5708
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/04/93 12:03a
Subj: PIER 3 NOW SHIPPING!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |        Title:  PIER 3         |  |   Price:  $39   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

                             >>> IT'S HERE! <<<

     The wait is over!  Night Owl's closest rival in the shareware CD
     industry has just released their latest disc:  The Pier Shareware 3.
     Since the release of Pier 1 and 2, there has been a growing
     consensus in the CD-ROM industry that Pier CD's simply have no
     equal when it comes to recent files, accurate BBS listings, and
     great user interfaces.  To put it simply folks, if you are looking
     for the absolute BEST shareware CD for your personal or BBS use,
     Pier 3 is the CD you need.  You will not find a better organized,
     more current shareware CD on the world market, at ANY PRICE!

     * 628mb total
     * Separate <ASP> directory.
     * 100% files dated 1993 S.D.C. (Smart Date Checking utilized)
     * Completely re-written Graphic User Interface for EZ file management,
       which is 300% faster than previous versions!
     * All files have been scanned for viruses with the latest McAfee SCAN.
     * GAP, PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat!, Remote Access FILES.BBS Support.
     * Less then 1% duplication compared to The Pier Shareware 1 & 2.
     * Most current files on the market.  Over 70% dated AFTER 6/93!

                        - DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE -

     File stats for Pier 3:

     92  File   %    Apx 'K'    %        93  File   %    Apx 'K'    %
     ==  ==== =====  ======== =====      ==  ==== =====  ======== =====

      1     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       1     5  0.1%     1,708  0.3%
      2     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       2     6  0.1%     1,066  0.2%
      3     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       3    47  1.0%     5,508  0.9%
      4     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       4   501 11.0%    70,354 11.2%
      5     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       5   693 15.2%    94,210 15.0%
      6     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       6 1,244 27.4%   164,183 26.1%
      7     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       7 1,054 23.2%   156,138 24.8%
      8     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       8   572 12.6%    79,892 12.7%
      9     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       9   421  9.3%    55,188  8.8%
     10     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      10     0  0.0%         0  0.0%
     11     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      11     0  0.0%         0  0.0%
     12     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      12     0  0.0%         0  0.0%
         ---- -----  -------- -----          ---- -----  -------- -----
            0  0.0%         0  0.0%         4,543 99.9%   628,247 99.8%
         ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== =====

That's right - 72% dated newer than 6/93, and 98.4% dated newer than 4/93!

   2-CD SET:  Pier 2 and 3...................(less than 1% dupes!)....$59
   3-CD SET:  Pier 1, 2, and 3...............(less than 1% dupes!)....$75

                 >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<
                 >>>     DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE!     <<<

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5709
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/04/93 12:03a
Subj: PROGRAMMER'S MEGAPACK $29               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |     Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT CD-ROM!     |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _________________________________    _______________
           |                                 |  |               |
           |  Title:  PROGRAMMER'S MEGAPACK  |  |  Price:  $29  |
           |_________________________________|  |_______________|

     They're back in stock!  We want to thank all those who have been
     patient with us while this title has been on backorder, and to
     say that if you haven't received it yet, you will soon!  For those
     who are unfamiliar with it, Programmer's Megapack is widely
     considered to be among the BEST source code / utility CD's to ever
     be produced!  If you like to program, BUY THIS CD!!

     * Source code for DOS, Windows, OS/2, Mac, Unix, and GNU
     * Working demos of the products most needed by programmers
     * 1000's of programmer's tools and utilities.  Some of the best ever
       created
     * Tutorials, tech tips, Q&A sessions, etc - all indexed for EZ access
     * Covers all major languages: Basic, C, C++, Pascal, Fortran, Cobol,
       Forth, Ada, and many others
     * BBS-Ready

     2-CD SET:  Programmer's Megapack + Source Code CD..............$45

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: SAM BECKWITH                           Number: 5710
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/04/93  7:53p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale 1/2                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DFW Discount Electronics       10/04/93        Orders: 800-829-0331
                                               Local : 214-254-0331
CD-ROM Price List                              BBS   : 214-259-4188

   * = Indicates file listing available for download via our BBS

Shareware      
~~~~~~~~~      
* CLIPART GOLIATH (4/93 by Chestnut): Over 11,000 PCX, TIF, $15.00 
  and many other formats. For most desktop publishing      
  programs.                                                

* DR. GAMES (6/93, BBS Ready, by Aces Research, Inc.):      $15.00 
  Adventure, Arcade, Card Games, Chess, Flights, Puzzles,  
  Simulators, Sports, Strategy, Tetris, Wars, Windows      
  Games, and much more.                                    

* GAMES 1993 (4/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago Computer Broker): $13.00 
  Over 6,000 files including Apogee games, unprotects,     
  tips, Tetris clones, lotto, casino, sports, VGA arcade,  
  Flight Simulators.                                       

  MONSTER MEDIA 9/93 (9/93, BBS Ready): 420MB, no duplicate $26.00 
  files, FILES.BBS format included and conversion utility  
  provided for most popular BBS systems.                   

* NIGHT OWL 9 (6/93, BBS Ready, by Night Owl Publisher)     $25.00 

  NIGHT OWL 10 (10/93, BBS Ready, by Night Owl Publisher):  $32.00 
  Over 640MB, over 5,000 files, all 1993 files, games, comm
  programs, utils, Windows 3.1 files, OS/2, graphics, and  
  more.                                                    

  NIGHT OWL GAMES (10/93, BBS Ready, by Night Owl           $21.00 
  Publisher)                                               

* NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS (8/93, BBS Ready, by Night Owl         $25.00 
  Publisher)                                               

  PC-SIG WORLD of WINDOWS (8/93, by PC SIG): Over 350       $20.00 
  Windows programs, over 2,000 sounds, over 900 truetype   
  fonts, over 10,000 icons, files are for use directly from
  CD (uncompressed).                                       

* SCI-FI FANTASY (4/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago Computer      $19.00 
  Broker): VGA pics including Star Trek, Star Wars,        
  Fantasy, D&D, Creatures, Conan & much more.              

* SHAREWARE APRIL 1993 (4/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago         $15.00 
  Computer Broker): 5,000 files, games, sounds, Window,    
  utils, education, finance.                               

* SHAREWARE EXPLORER (8/93, BBS Ready, by 5 Star): 4 CD     $39.00 
  combo, 1 Windows CD & 3 DOS CDs, over 26,000 files,      
  graphics, sound, games, comm, ham radio, fonts, and more.

* SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 (7/93, BBS Ready, by Power User       $23.00 
  Software): 650MB, VGA Arcade Games, Home & Hobby,        
  Graphics, Clip Art, Sound Files, Finance, OS/2, Windows, 
  Fonts & much more.                                       

* SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD (9/93, BBS Ready, by American         $23.00 
  Databankers): Over 6,000 files, over 590MB, Windows & DOS
  Programs, BBS programs, and much more. Each DIR contains 
  a FILES.BBS & SFFILES.BBS. Comes with RomDoor (already   
  setup) for use with DOOR.SYS.                            
    DFW Discount Electronics - PO Box 177617 - Irving, TX 75017
     Prices and availability subject to change without notice
               <<< Call us for items not listed >>>

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From: SAM BECKWITH                           Number: 5711
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/04/93  7:53p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale 2/2                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DFW Discount Electronics       10/04/93        Orders: 800-829-0331
                                               Local : 214-254-0331
CD-ROM Price List                              BBS   : 214-259-4188

Clip Art       
~~~~~~~~       
  GIFs GALORE: Over 5,000 full color GIFs and viewers for   $18.00 
  MS-DOS, Macintosh, Amiga and Unix.                       

Game           
~~~~           
  KINGS QUEST V                                             $15.00 

  KINGS QUEST VI                                            $32.00 

  LOOM: LucasArts' truly unique fantasy graphic adventure,  $19.00 
  You play the role of a young weaver in the Age of the    
  Great Guilds.                                            

Programming    
~~~~~~~~~~~    
  PROGRAMMER'S ROM                                          $27.00 

  SOURCE C                                                  $21.00 

Reference      
~~~~~~~~~      
  FAMILY DOCTOR: Over 1,500 of frequently asked medical     $19.00 
  questions, approx. 300 color medical illustrations, names
  & addresses of support groups/education resources,       
  complete data on over 1,600 prescription drugs.          

Sound          
~~~~~          
  9,000 SOUNDS                                              $24.00 

  ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUND: 211 WAV sound effects files, 13    $13.00 
  WAV music clip files, 7 full length musical scores, VOC  
  sound effects, sound players and utils, SoundBlaster and 
  Adlib compatable.                                        

  MIDI MUSIC SHOP                                           $21.00 
    DFW Discount Electronics - PO Box 177617 - Irving, TX 75017
     Prices and availability subject to change without notice
               <<< Call us for items not listed >>>

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5712
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 10/04/93  7:59a
Subj: CD for sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hello Arnie!


 AG> Magazine Article Summaries, Jan '84 - May '92 (w/search software)
includes
 AG>                       32 MAGAZINES IN FULL TEXT (Compute!, Natural
 AG> History,                      Newsweek, Omni, Rolling Stone, Smithsonian,
 AG> Technology Review, US News, 16 more), plus 300 in summary format

Have some CDs I am trying to sell, can you see in my ad if you want any for
this one or do you want to sell it. Have high school kids and this sounds like
a good one for them. Let me know how much and where to send money, thanks
512-939-9822
Pat

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From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                     Number: 5713
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 10/05/93  2:11p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL> Hello Jean-Claude.  I just thought I would give you a
JL> dealer's
JL> perspective on this.  Lee's CD-Roms are among the best
...
JL> decide on.  Personally, I have accepted returns on
JL> non-packaged CD's
JL> without question so far.  Fortunately, my customers have
JL> treated me
JL> right, and there has been no significant problems.  Just
JL> another

And I would buy from you before I bought from him for that very reason.


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From: GEOFF REED                             Number: 5714
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/03/93  3:53a
Subj: Brand New Cd-rom Titles                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

<<***** On 09-30-93, Mike Shannon wrote to Frank Gresh: *****>>
MS> TOTAL FANTASY * Newly released .GIF disc from Denmark
  
  Mike, is this Disk any good?  what sort of Pics are on it?
 
                                                                     
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From: GEOFF REED                             Number: 5715
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 10/03/93  3:56a
Subj: Cd-rom Drives For Sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

<<***** On 10-02-93, Scott Raley wrote to Richard Vonzel: *****>>
SR>Could I get one for $125?]
SR> 
SR>SCott Raley
SR> 
SR>--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
SR> * Origin: Taesar's Palace * Gaithersburg, Md * 301-417-6952 (1:109/474)
  
  The $135.00 price is a little more than the $89 that radio-shack was
selling these for at their last nation-wide Tent sale.  I bought 2 of them
at that time, they're OK drives, but I will warn you, They are Mitsumi
LU-002 drives, meaning they have a 780-950 MS access time, and you get up to
150K/sec transfer rates. they are -barely- MPC Level 1 compliant  I like
mine, but the slowness of this drive has whetted my appetite for a faster
drive.  they come with an 8-bit card that can be set to DMA Channels 1 or 3
and IRQ's 2,3,4 or 5 and can be switched between 4 different addresses. if
your machine doesn't have a free DMA channel you are stuck with software
polling mode, which slows the drive's transfer rate down to ~29K/second. 
they're good drives for BBS'.  which is where i'll move mine when I get a
CHinon 535 :) or a panasonic Doublespin and SoundGalaxy NX-Pro Extra :)
 
 
                                         
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From: GEOFF REED                             Number: 5716
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 10/03/93  4:03a
Subj: Current Hits                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

<<***** On 10-02-93, Michellea Sorensen wrote to All: *****>>
MS>or AV codes... .ZIP archive dates match the latest date within the
  I don't see where Not having an AV code on a Zips on a shareware CD-Rom
would be a bonus, since the -AV code on a ZIP shows that it's the original
zip created by the program's author.
 
                                                                 
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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 5717
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/03/93  6:39p
Subj: Asian Ladies For Trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Greeting folks, I have the Asian Ladies CD available for trade, looking
for 7th Guest, Southern Beauties, or Mystique of the Orient.  I'd be willing
to add $10-$15 for 7th Guest or Mystique.

I had an offer of 7th Guest for AL and $15, but the person seems to have
disappered after I agreed ;(  Let me know if your interested as I'll end up
buying these CD's in a week or so if nothing works out.  Thanks in advance!

,\\ark

 
... "Milhouse, we live in the age of cooties!"  - Bart Simpson
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5718
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 10/05/93  7:17a
Subj: Re: Review of Raincoat CD               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The Hard Disc Cafe (Houston, TX) (713) 589-2690. Only a single line so  keep
trying. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5719
  To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                       Date: 10/05/93  7:10a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well, each to his own. I think you are asking too much. I agree (and
encourage) that folks should get all the data they can before purchasing a
product. That data includes the dealer/producer reputation. If that filter
passes, and the buyer has reasonable expectations regarding the suitability
(note I said expectations, not guarantees), then it's the purchaser's
responsibility from then on. If the product proves unsat due to deception,
then the buyer's got a legit beef. If it's less than that, no beef. In other
words, if the deal was made in good faith, it should be kept in good faith BY
BOTH PARTIES. <EOT>

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From: MIKE GRIFFIN                           Number: 5720
  To: KIRK REEVES                              Date: 10/05/93 12:32p
Subj: Starvector Software                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Kirk!

27 Sep 93 21:17, Kirk Reeves wrote to Greg Isokrari:


 GI>> Mike Shannon posted the price list for Starvector
 GI>> Software and I was wondering if anyone had ever ordered
 GI>> from there???  Are they a decent place to buy from?

 KR> Yes.  I brought three disks, Asian Ladies, Mystique of The Orient and
 KR> 7th Guest from Mike recently and am very happy.  I was shooping around
 KR> and Mike offered me the best price.  I have also seen message from other
 KR> satisified customer on this net.  All I can say I will be buying more.
 KR> At least a $1,000 dollars worth before the end of the year.

You know, It was posts like this that prompted me to call today and order
several CD's from Mike. I look forward to getting a whole collection of CD's
from him at a really great price..


Mike

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5721
  To: ELDON WAKEFIELD                          Date: 10/05/93  7:23a
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Eldon!

04 Oct 93, Eldon Wakefield writes to All:

 EW> I have the following for sale asking 110.00 for all and will pay the
 EW> shipping. MegaRom No 1 Mega A/V Audio and Visual Mega WinOS/2 Cica
 EW> MicroSoft Windows Shareware Studio No 1 Lion Shareware 11 Caddies These
 EW> disk are BBS ready. If anyone you may reply here or call me at
 EW>  (706)-561-7856 Thanks -+- Eldon -+- TBBS v2.1/NM
 EW>  + Origin: The Country Store - Columbus, Ga.  (1:3613/11)

Thanks, will get that money to you as soon as I can it was nice talking to
you!!!!

Pat

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From: ROBIN GIST                             Number: 5722
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/03/93  7:59p
Subj: Now echoing                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@ORIGIN :z o n e :  n i n e t y   n i n e   - 205.539.1839           N
Zone:Ninety Nine in Huntsville is now echoing this conference


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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 5723
  To: THOMAS ALLRED                            Date: 10/03/93  1:43p
Subj: external cd rom drive for sale cheap    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TA> i have an external cd rom drive model BSR6800MX i dont have the 
TA> controller  card but the drive is sold by DAK industries and it is 
TA> made by MITSUMI so i  am sure one of those companies will sell the 
TA> controller card i have an  internal cd rom drive and have no use fot 
TA> it i will gaurantee it to work  perfectly of i will refund your money 
TA> i am accepting offer's or i will trade  for the following

TA> xxxrated adult cd rom titles (not male gay)
TA> 9600 or faster modem
TA> nx1040 color printer
TA> CASH
TA>                                        thanks
TA>                                     thomas allred


TA> please reply here i am on every day or two to check my messages 

Hello Thomas,
I have an external 9600 baud modem I wouls be willing to trade if you are
interested.
The specs are: 
           
           Hayes V-series V42. 
           New power supply 
           6 Foot Modem cable 

The unit works great. Called hayes and dl at apx 950cps.. 

-Joe
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From: TED KIDD                               Number: 5724
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/03/93  7:14p
Subj: NEW CD TITLES                           Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

>MAC SHAREWARE * A great CD full of current Mac shareware for Mac only..$24

Please tell me that this disc is IBM BBS ready!!??
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From: BRIAN RIDER                            Number: 5725
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/04/93 12:56a
Subj: CD Roms                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What CD-ROM'S have a abundance of ANSi files?  I noticed that I have more ANSis
that most of the CDs that I have seen including the "graphics" cd's.  
Anyone have any suggestions? 
 

As for anyone making CD's as a "business" I have approx. 1100+ quality screens,
no fillers.  All good stuff. Approx. 8 1/2 megs uncompressed.  Seperated by
"groups" and in directories of less than 200 per directory. 
                  Thanks 
                       Brian 
                            Frost Byte of CiA!
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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 5726
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/23/93  2:04p
Subj: PC Magazines                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for a low priced alternative to magazine subscriptions? We offer low
priced subscriptions to your favorite magazines. Below is only a partial list
of PC related magazines. For the full catalog, f'req CSS_MAGS from 1:2470/11 or
1:2470/16. We will meet or beat any advertised subscription rate, or stop
selling the magazine.

  258       10.98   BYTE
  2258      16.48   BYTE - CANADA
  454       11.39   COMPUTER CRAFTS
  1641      24.08   COMPUTER GAMING WORLD
  1630      10.21   COMPUTER MONTHLY
  1171      44.40   COMPUTERWORLD
  685        7.48   HOME OFFICE COMPUTING
  99        27.00   PC
  583       15.00   PC COMPUTING
  792       15.29   PC LAPTOP
  912       26.45   PC MAGAZINE EN ESPANOL
  925       22.20   PC NOVICE
  667       18.60   PC TODAY
  309       17.70   PC WORLD ( PC PRODUCTS & SOLUTIONS)

C.S.S.
Attn: Chris Bourne
1526 Ramblewood Ct.
Adrian, Michigan 49221

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From: RICH RUBIN                             Number: 5727
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/03/93  4:43p
Subj: Encarta...                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    I have my 'Encarta' by Microsoft cd that I'ld like to sell.  I only 
have one.  It comes with the box and the two books that came with it.  
I don't have the registration card.  I'll sell this disk for the first 
$105.  I'll pay postage in the USA.  Contact me here if you are 
interested.  This disk is selling for $300 at CompUSA.  Thanks...
 
                             Rich

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5728
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 10/04/93  3:27p
Subj: Review of SHAREWARE CDs                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Arnie - Sounds like you have a handle on it so I'll leave it to you and 
whatever the shareware producers want to do. Go get 'em! 
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From: KELLY HORNSBY                          Number: 5729
  To: DAVID NGHIEM                             Date: 10/01/93  7:28a
Subj: PROGRAMMERS CD                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DN>I am looking for a C/C++ Programmer's CD for use on a BBS.  Can anyone
DN>recommend some good ones?


For Unix code, the Source Code CDROM from Walnut Creek is very good.
For MSDOS, the Simtel20 from the same is excellent.  It's got MANY good
C and C++ programs on it.

Walnut Creek
1-510-674-0783

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From: KEITH LOONEY                           Number: 5730
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 10/04/93  1:09p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes for Sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll bid $40.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5731
  To: STEAN SNYMAN                             Date: 10/05/93 12:43a
Subj: info on CD's                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SS>I'm looking for info on the followwing 2 CD's :
SS>VGA SPECTRUM 1
SS>DR. MUSIC

We have them both in stock, at $14 and $20, respectively.  Give a shout
if you're interested.  Can ship same day.

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5732
  To: ERIC ENGELMANN                           Date: 10/05/93 12:43a
Subj: PROGRAMMER'S MEGAPACK!!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EE>It's hard to figure how the Programmer's Megapack could be a great asset to
a
EE>professional programmer,

Gee, I don't know . . . maybe because it contains hundreds of megabytes of
useful utilities and source code that beginning AND professional
programmers can readily utilize for their applications???

EE>For professionals, sell EMS's CD-ROM libraries for programmers. Call me at

Sorry, not interested.  (Your sales pitch left a sour taste in my mouth)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5733
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/05/93 12:43a
Subj: BUSTY BABES II PREORDERS!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ> -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Lee Noga <=-
BJ> MS> call.  My services are free of charge, as long as you set me up like
BJ> MS> Bob Jackson, and slip a few freebies under my pillow now and again!
BJ>                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
BJ>Careful, Mike. She might decide to put the somewhere else! (GD&R)

You don't hear me complaining do you??   8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5734
  To: PAUL T.NELSON                            Date: 10/05/93 12:43a
Subj: Order                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PT>I faxed you an order today (Sat 10/2).  Last time it took 3 whole days for
PT>my order to get here and one of those days was Sunday!  I know you work fast
PT>but try to improve on that.  After all you have a reputation to uphold! <g>
PT>Really, thanks a bunch...      Paul T.Nelson

Went out today, Paul. (10/4)  Thanks very much.  I would have
hand-delivered it, but the Lotus is leaking, the Fiat is squeaking, the
Dodge is creaking, and my wife is freaking.  As you can see, I'm needed
here.  Maybe next time. <g>

PT>P.S. What's the best dinosaur or other exciting educational CD around? I

I used to think Dinosaur Adventure, but since I've seen Dinosaurs!, I'm
sold on it.  $34 in stock if yer interested.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5735
  To: GREG GILETTO                             Date: 10/05/93 12:43a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GG>Hey Mike,
GG>So far what I've read about your company makes me believe your
GG>THE ONE I want to buy CD's from. Send me a catalog PLEASE.

Thanx Greg.  Our new catalog is on the way.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5736
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/05/93 12:44a
Subj: PRE-ORDER OS/2BOX!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

           ______________________________________________________
          |                                                      |
          |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #3:  CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS   |
          |______________________________________________________|

            We are now taking pre-orders on the following title.
             - Cards are not processed until date of shipment -
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |      Title:  CD OS/2BOX       |  |   Price:  $29   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

                       - DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE -

     You all know about the great track record of Damar's previous
     releases:  CD-Winbox and CD-Powerbox.  Well, get ready OS/2 users,
     because the BEST and most RECENT OS/2 shareware CD is almost here!
     The demand will be high so get your name on our list if you want
     to be among the first to try out this brand new title!

     * Slick, mouse-driven graphic user interface for OS/2
     * Consists of 100% OS/2 2.0+ shareware applications. No old version
       1.x files
     * Fully BBS-ready
     * 350+mb total
     * To begin shipping this month!
     * FREE shipping on all preorders

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5737
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/05/93 12:44a
Subj: SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |  Title:  SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD  |  |   Price:  $25   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

     You all know about the quality and integrity of Software Vault
     2.  Well get ready because it's successor has arrived!  Introducing
     Software Vault GOLD, an all new, all-1993 shareware CD with many
     new and exciting features . . . . .

     * Over 50 categories to choose from
     * Separate directories for Windows/Windows NT applications
     * The Librarian (tm) user interface with DOS and Windows versions
     * ROMDOOR utility built in for easy BBS setup
     * Fully BBS-ready
     * BEST color cover on the market! (great for shows or store display)
     * 593 megabytes
     * 6148 files
     * File listing available:  VAULTGLD.ZIP @ 509-457-0206 (V.32bis)

   2-CD SET:  Software Vault Gold + Software Vault 2...(NO dupes!)....$44
   3-CD SET:  Add Software Vault 1...............(still NO dupes!)....$57

                >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 5738
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 10/03/93  5:08p
Subj: where is Tim?                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  What happened to our "wheeling-dealing" moderator?  I have  tried
->  to call him several days and there is no answer.  Perhaps  he  is
->  spending his millions in the Caribbean?   Anyway, while the cat's
->  away...  anyone want to talk about religion or politics?   ha  ha

I'm here.  For about a month this summer my mailer wasn't sending out
my mail - I didn't notice.... I just thought everyone was ignoring
me :(.  It got weird there for a while, but everything is working fine
now.

This weekend I was high in the Smokey Mountains - getting more video...
Sorry I missed your calls ;)

tim
moderator


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 5739
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/04/93  2:08p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes for Sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 03 Oct 93  11:36:04, I heard Lee Noga shout to Kevin Plummer:

LN> KP>> I have Busty Babes the one with Bam Bam on it, It's BB #1, Will sell
LN> 
LN> Needs to have the words, 'Graphic Software' on the disc as well to be a BB 
LN> I, Version 1--

It Does...


                             .......|<evin

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 5740
  To: THOMAS ALLRED                            Date: 10/04/93  2:09p
Subj: Re: cd-roms wanted x-rated              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 02 Oct 93  21:17:01, I heard Thomas Allred shout to Kevin Plummer:

TA> what is the c.d. rom exotic girls about
TA> 
TA> if it is xrated scans and gif's i will take for 25
TA> 
TA> thomas allred

Huh ????  Sorry, Think you ment to post this to someone else...

                        .....|<evin

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 5741
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 10/05/93  5:18a
Subj: Re: NO10 vs Pier 3                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 03 Oct 93  06:29:00, I heard Randy Neuner shout to All:

RN> I am ready to purchase a new cd disc for my bbs.  In anyone's
RN> opinion, which would have newer files or which do you feel
RN> is the better choice?  I have seen NO10 advertised for a special
RN> price of $39.00.  Is this a fair price?  Thanks for any comments.

Night Owl 10 is $29.00 from Free Spirit...  1-800-638-5757

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From: BOB BRODOVSKY                          Number: 5742
  To: LEO MULVIHILL                            Date: 10/04/93  8:44p
Subj: Microsoft Bookhelf '92                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 09-28-93 LEO  Said this about Microsoft Bookhelf '92 to ALL %a. 
 
LM>I have a copy of Microsoft Bookshelf for Windows 1992 edition. 
 
LM>Make me an offer and it is yours 
 
 
I'll give ya $15.00 ... Where do I send the check? 
 
You can send the disk to: 
 
Bob Brodovsky 
9299 Linda Rio Dr. 
Sacramento, CA 95826 
 
Thanks, 
 
--==>>Bob<<==-- 
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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 5743
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 10/04/93  7:50a
Subj: MS BK SHELF 1991?                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sir; Are selling the Microsoft Book Shelf 1991 Version (probably #2?)
I am interested in the 91 version. What are you asking?

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From: KEVIN KING                             Number: 5744
  To: MARK GLENN                               Date: 10/04/93  5:01p
Subj: CDROMS FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mark, thanks for your request and your mailing address. I'll mail you
a copy of RESALE93.ZIP. Kevin King, SysOp "My Favorite BBS" 916-381-2851
Home of the Reseller's Quarterly" A Database designed to help Computer
reseller's find the best prices on hardware direct from Manufacturers and
dealer distributors. Our Reseller's Quarterly was designed to give ANY computer
reseller an EDGE in todays cut-throat computer market by showing
them where they can buy from.

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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 5745
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 10/05/93  7:58p
Subj: Rcvd drive - Thanks!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    Ismail-  I received the CD ROM drive yesterday. Everything looks fine.
    Many thanks for helping me to resolve my problem... I appreciate the
    attention you have given it!

- Heather
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From: DANIEL HAGAN                           Number: 5746
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/06/93 12:47a
Subj: 1 of 2                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Forwarded from "R19 SYSOP"
 * Originally by Tony Davis
 * Originally to All
 * Originally dated 4 Oct 1993, 19:36

Well, it is still appearing in the national trade mags. Here (and the
next message) is a story that is in the October issue of Boardwatch.
The writer is Lance Rose, an attorney, and the author of "SYSLAW",
the 'bible' on electronic communication law.



TONY DAVIS & THE SHOW-BIZ COPS OF OKLAHOMA CITY

The arrest of Tony Davis was reported in last month's Boardwatch. Davis
operated the Oklahoma Information Exchange BBS in Oklahoma City. On August
17, 1993, he was formally arraigned in Oklahoma state court and allowed to
remain out of jail on $4500 bail. Since the first report, we looked into this
affair more closely. The closer one looks, the more absurd Davis' plight
gets.

The police investigation of Tony Davis culminated in two purchases of
allegedly obscene CD-ROMs from Davis by undercover police on June 4th and
July 12th, 1993. Shortly after the second purchase, on July 19, 1993, they
arrived in force at Tony Davis' office with a warrant and seized some adult
CD-ROMs from the stock he maintained in operating a CD-ROM retail business.
They did not stop there, however. They also grabbed his BBS computer
equipment and arrested Davis.

The event had little chance of passing unnoticed, as the police brought along
a professional video camera and videotaped the whole affair. Afterwards they
edited the tape, wrote a script, and with the help of the local ABC affiliate
turned it into a weekly installment of a "reality television" program called
"You're Busted". It was broadcast throughout the Oklahoma City area on July
23rd, four days after the raid. For that extra dose of reality, the episode
was narrated by one of the policemen who searched Davis' place and arrested
him.

As the police burst in on Davis, the voiceover informed TV viewers they were
witnessing the control center for Davis' "international pornographic
network". Out of roughly 2,000 CD- ROMs Davis kept on hand for the CD-ROM
retail business he operated, the police confiscated 57. For purposes of
comparison, that's under 3% of Davis' total stock of CD-ROMs. A far smaller
percentage than the amount of hardcore adult material found in typical video
stores in most parts of our country. Later in the show, the cop with the
video camera focused on a computer screen showing the CD-ROM activity on
Davis' BBS. The names of BBS users could be seen as they downloaded files
from CD-ROMs. The narrating officer knowingly explained to the TV audience
that they were seeing BBS users "viewing the smut" right then and there (not
to spoil the fun, but the police were mistaken; users can't read image files
they are transferred to their own computers). At the end of the show, the
narrator belted out the show's theme: "Tony Davis, you're busted!" Davis did
not enjoy his 15 minutes of fame.  According to Davis, "the You're Busted'
show was the most degrading thing I've seen done to anybody in my life."

The newspapers were thoroughly scooped but joined in spiritedly, passing
along police allegations that Tony Davis was running a "high-tech, modern-day
porno house". They noted that other investigations continued, which might
mean the police were investigating Davis' CD-ROM suppliers, his customers, or
both. To their credit, they also gave a number of column inches to questions
raised by Davis' defense attorney, William Holmes, about the legality of the
police actions.

Davis was charged with four obscenity-related counts at the arraignment, two
based on the CD-ROM purchases by undercover officers prior to the raid.
Another count charged Davis with criminal "possession" of obscenity, despite
the Supreme Court's declaration in the past that mere possession of obscene
material is perfectly legal. The addition of this bizarre claim indicates
either that the local police do not understand the Constitutional rights of
U.S. citizens, or do not care. The last count was for trafficking in obscene
images. According to Davis' attorney, this statute was originally enacted in
reaction to pornographic video games, and now seems to be directed at the
downloading of BBS files that the cops videotaped. All charges could have a
very hard time sticking if the defective search and seizure procedures used
by the police are closely scrutinized in court.

Those procedures do appear deeply defective. Federal protections for BBS's
and sysops were apparently ignored wholesale in the Davis raid, just as in
other BBS raids we've seen the past couple of years. The Electronic
Communications Privacy Act ("ECPA"), protects electronic messages against
government search or seizure. When the police took Davis' BBS, they prevented
messages traveling through the BBS from being delivered to their ultimate
addresses. About 150 messages went undelivered, according to Davis' attorney.
This interception violates the ECPA, even if the police resisted the
temptation to read e-mail on the seized computers back in their offices.

The Privacy Protection Act ("PPA"), prohibits seizure of materials being kept
or prepared for publication, unless the person holding them is suspected of a
crime involving those very materials (with a few narrow exceptions). Davis'
business activities included publishing the "Magnum" series of CD-ROMS, none
of which were included in the titles the police thought obscene. By seizing
computers containing the materials used by Davis' in publishing his CD-ROMs,
the police grossly violated the PPA. Since Davis was not suspected or accused
of any crime in relation to the Magnum CD- ROMs he published, any associated
materials simply should not have been touched by the police.

Even plain vanilla 4th and 5th Amendment warrant requirements may have been
violated by the police in this case.  According to sources, the Oklahoma City
police typically obtain a warrant based on an informal chat with the
magistrate. Afterwards, they perform the actions authorized by the warrant,
and only then submit a formal affidavit to support the warrant. If the police
followed this sloppy and deeply illegal procedure in Davis' case, then his
due process rights were grossly violated. As a further example of official
slop, neither the warrant under which the raid was conducted, nor the police
request for that warrant, mentioned Davis' computer bulletin board at all.
That fatal omission did not stop the cops from taking all the computer
equipment anyway.

Perhaps the Oklahoma City prosecutors believe the seizure was legal because
it is authorized under Oklahoma's own obscenity seizure statutes. If so,
they're dead wrong. Federal due process protections trump state seizure laws.
There was no emergency here to justify even a temporary abridgement of Davis'
full due process rights. The particular importance of the ECPA and PPA should
not be underestimated by Oklahoma state attorneys or anyone else. The
protections of these statutes are so important that Congress spelled them out
expressly, even though in a sense they merely clarify protections already
contained in the Constitution. The police cannot bat these protections out of
the way every time they threaten this week's episode of "You're Busted."

--- GEcho 1.00
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From: DANIEL HAGAN                           Number: 5747
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/06/93 12:47a
Subj: 2 of 2                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Forwarded from "R19 SYSOP"
 * Originally by Tony Davis
 * Originally to All
 * Originally dated 4 Oct 1993, 19:36

Davis' lawyer, himself a former local prosecutor, appears fully aware of the
mess the police are making of the Davis matter. He sent them a letter a week
after the raid formally notifying them they are violating the ECPA and PPA
through their seizure and retention of Davis' computer equipment. In doing
so, he is trying to short circuit a possible future defense by the cops that
they did not know they were doing anything wrong by holding Davis' equipment.
Readers of Boardwatch may recall the lawsuit won by Steve Jackson Games
against the U.S. government in Austin, Texas a few months back. The federal
court held that the agents' naive BBS seizure violating the ECPA and PPA
could be excused, but the agents became obligated to return the wrongly
seized materials as soon as they found out about their privacy and publishing
aspects and the laws forbidding their seizure. The same should certainly hold
true here. Despite this precedent, as of August 19th the police still did not
return anything to Davis, almost a month after receiving his lawyer's
notifying letter.

Why did the police pick on Davis? It certainly wasn't due to their keen law
enforcement instincts. Despite the screaming newspaper headlines about porno
shop merchants, Davis is a well- known and respected business man. He runs a
telephone goods and services company, selling equipment and special services
like Centrex switching to local area businesses. He was operating Oklahoma
Information Exchange, a widely reputed and very busy BBS.  He was one of the
founders of Fidonet, and was Region 19 coordinator for several years. In his
CD-ROM business, he sold many titles (with adult titles accounting for a
minute portion of his business), and produced his own Magnum CD-ROMs.

Davis also had a fairly extensive age verification scheme to assure only
adults were getting access to adult materials on his BBS. Memberships were
which to those who had credit cards. In addition, to get access to the adult
area users had to send Davis assigned letter stating they were over 21.
Despite these measures, when the dust cleared Davis' standing as a
businessman and his age verification procedures did nothing to slow down the
police.

After talking with Davis, his attorney and other local sources, the blame for
his troubles should be laid on the creepy little deal the Oklahoma City
police cooked up with the local ABC TV affiliate for the "You're Busted"
television program. The TV station gave the police a professional video
camera and the opportunity to shoot, script and narrate a TV program called
"You're Busted". The payoff to the police was 15 minutes of fame on a weekly
basis for individual cops, and great publicity and a high profile for police
department as a whole. In return, the TV station received a TV show in hugely
popular "reality television" format, an exclusive relationship with the
police not enjoyed by other local stations, and, it would appear, very low
production costs.

A great business deal for the police and the television station, but terrible
news for just about everyone else. For starters, the police end up paying
less attention to protecting the community and more to show biz. On-the-scene
arrests make the best TV, so the police will be more motivated to obtain
search and arrest warrants and less concerned about whether the intrusion on
peoples' lives is justified. In fact, the more individuals they intrude on,
the better the "You're Busted" episode.

The effect on the news media is just as bad. The local ABC affiliate falsely
presents the police-made footage as "reality", when in fact it's been
manufactured for TV just like all other TV fodder. The police may not be
conversant with the finer points of constitutional law, but they're smart
enough to know if they don't make a good show they'll be canned fast by the
station. Further, the media, the proud "fourth estate", lets itself become no
more than a flack for the local police. The public, as usual, is victimized
on both ends. Its gets prosecution of the most entertaining instead of the
most deserving, while the couch potatoes of Oklahoma City are served up a
desperately skewed view of law enforcement and who are the criminals.

Without the cop/show biz connection, Tony Davis might never have been busted.
If the police had taken the trouble to investigate Davis' life a bit, they
would have discovered that the adult CD-ROMs were only a small part of his
business. Tony Davis is not a porn merchant, not the type of person to hold
up to others as a bad example. Yet with their constant need to come up with
new and exciting material on a TV production schedule, the police overlooked
the reality of Davis' business. It fit their agenda better to bust Tony Davis
with a bang with the whole world watching, than to quietly give Davis a word
to the wise about the police department's newly formulated policies on
digitized adult materials.

Indeed, the police departments' failure to give Davis a little advance
warning seems almost criminally negligent.  According to assistant district
attorney Lori Nettleton, "This is the first time that charges have been filed
involving the use of computers in an obscenity case in Oklahoma County." A
quick look at the laws under which Davis was charged shows they were on the
Oklahoma statute books for almost ten years. Why did the police not act under
them until now?

One could argue the police themselves promoted the growth of the adult
computer file business through their own laissez-faire attitude toward
computer obscenity laws for the last ten years.  Most people figure out
whether something's illegal by looking to see if the police are arresting
people for doing it. While this is no excuse for pursuing clearly criminal
activity, Davis' acts were, at worst, in a grey area of arguable criminality.
Now the police are overeager to make an example out of him, after entirely
failing to give any guidance on just what counts as criminal conduct when it
comes to adult materials.

In the overzealous police raid and arrest of Tony Davis, everyone loses.
Davis loses his freedom and his property, and he already lost much of his
reputation as a business man. The users of the Oklahoma Information Exchange
BBS lost. They trusted that they had rights of privacy from the government,
and the Oklahoma City police betrayed that trust. The police will lose as
well if they are held responsible for their gross violations of warrant
procedures. If anyone decides to sue them, maybe they'll be kind enough to
videotape it so we can watch it all later on TV.

--- GEcho 1.00
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From: VADE FORRESTER                         Number: 5748
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/05/93  8:23p
Subj: WRONG SHIPMENT                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Doug, I screwed up. The cover of the CD said 1992, but after your message, I
opened it up and lo and behold, the print on the CD itself said 1993.  Sorry
for my confusion, and thanks for your willingness to make the exchange.

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From: TED KIDD                               Number: 5749
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/04/93  1:54p
Subj: CD's on a Novell Server                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone know how to mount CD-Rom drives on a Novell file server (using
Novell Version 3.11).
Please list any available info you may have (products and prices).
Thanks
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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 5750
  To: BRIAN BOURNE                             Date: 10/05/93  2:23p
Subj: CD ROM's for Sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey bud, got any relatives in Michigan that you know of? :D

Chris

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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 5751
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/03/93  9:21p
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       D i g i t a l   E n t e r p r i s e s   c u s t o m
                    C D R O M   s e r v i c e

We can transfer your programs and data from Tape, Floppy or Hard Disk to
Industry Standard CDROM, which is accessible by any ISO9660 compliant CDROM
reader.


Price schedule:
---------------

  Quantity      Price each
  --------      ----------
    1            $144.00, and $55 per each additional.
  *5-9            $65.00
  *10+            $50.00

* - Quantity 5 and over flat-rate pricing applies to multiple copies
    of the SAME disk.


Shipping:
---------
All orders are sent via UPS ground unless customer specifies a different
method.  Add $5 for UPS Blue label service, and $15 for UPS red label service.

Getting your data to us:
------------------------
We currently support QIC-40 and QIC-80 tapes through the use of a Colorado
DJ-20 tape drive.  We also support streaming tape drives that use DC600/6XXXX
tape.  Floppy disks are accepted, but at a premium of $8/hr of restore time. 
We Also have in the past, accepted a hard disk as the method of transferral.


Naming conventions:
-------------------
One limiting factor of CDROM is the limit that the ISO 9660 standard places on
filenames.  Filenames MUST NOT contain characters other than A-Z, 0-9 or the
"_" underscore character.

We will at your request rename non-compliant files, and files.bbs listings at
no additional cost.

Terms:
------
Prepay for service via certified funds.  Personal checks must clear our bank
before production begins.   Please make your check or money order payable to
"Digital Enterprises".   The following signed statement must accompany all
orders:

=== Cut ---
I certify that the material I am presenting to Digital Enterprises for
transferral to CDROM violates no copyright laws.   The service that Digital
Enterprises provides is a bulk copying operation, and as such they have no
knowledge of the contents thereof.  I assume sole responsibility for the
contents of said CDROM(S).


                                  Signed:___________________________

                                    Date:______________
=== Cut ---


For more information:
---------------------
Contact us by voice, or log onto our BBS, and download the file CDINFO.ZIP. For
those with access to a Fidonet compatible mailer, file request the magic
filename "CDINFO".


Digital Enterprises
125 S. Saginaw
St. Charles, MI 48655
Voice: 517-865-6800  -  BBS: 517-865-6066  -  Fidonet: 1:239/900.0

(C) Copyright 1993, Digital Enterprises

===
 * OLX 2.1 * Ea$yTerm$:100% down;pay nothing for the rest of your life


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5752
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/06/93  2:46a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

         A L L   N E W   M O N S T E R   M E D I A  93  I I

* Over 5,000 NEW Files   * Over 665 Meg's    * No Dupes   * Virus Checked
* 128 pg  Manual         * All Zipped Files  * New Viewer * and More !!
The  ALL NEW  "Monster Media 93 II"  is here  and ready  for  delievery !!
All programs on this cd were written or updated between May 1st and August
31st 1993.  It offers  multi-line  discriptions  as  well  as supports for
several BBS formats to make installation a breeze!!  PRICE - $30.00

ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't Read Mail Without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5753
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/06/93  2:46a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 10                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                A L L   N E W   N I G H T  O W L  10

* Over 5,100 NEW Files   * Over 647 Meg's    * No Dupes   * Virus Checked
* No Dupes To v9.0       * All Zipped Files  * New Viewer * and  More  !!
The  ALL NEW  "Night Owl 10 "  is here  and ready  for  delievery  !! All
programs on this cd were written or updated between Jan 1st and  Sept 1st
1993.  In fact, 100megs of the total files are from Sept 1993.In addition,
N.O has a mouse driven GUI interface for both DOS and Windows !!
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5754
  To: JIM MEINHARDT                            Date: 10/06/93  2:46a
Subj: Re: CD's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Hi Boris,

>>           Just wanted to let you know I got the Hobbes OS/2 and
>>           other discs today.  The Hobbes is truley a bargain.
>>     It's got close to 650 Megs and a good interface.  Also,
>>     thanks for the help with the double spin Panasonic. I had it
>>     installed and running in about 20 minutes.  I tested the
>>     drive on some gifs and then installing OS/2...I was very
>>     pleased with the increased speed over my single speed.

Glad to hear it, the Panasonic is a very solid drive from all the input
we've recieved from all the customers who have purchased one.

Also pleased to here you're enjoying the new cd as well. There will be
another NEW OS/2 cd out soon that will offer just as much. Will let
you know when it comes in !!

Chat with you soon....

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Now 100% QWK Compatible! More bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5755
  To: COREY BICCUM                             Date: 10/06/93  2:46a
Subj: Re: cdrom cable                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Heya everyone, can anyone tell me where I can get a cable to
>>    connect my new Panasonic 562b drive to my new soundblaster pro
>>    card?  It's the little cable with four wires.  It never came
>>    with my drive or my sb pro card.  I called creative labs and
>>    they don't sell it.  where do I get one of these?  can I call
>>    around computer stores in town?  Or does this have to be
>>    baught off of Panasonic??  what gives???  Also, will this
>>    allow me to play audio cd's thru my soundblaster card?  help
>>    please??


We have the 4 wire lead connector for the above unit.

If your interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week
and we'll be happy to get one out to you.

Boris Osadciw

... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5756
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 10/06/93  2:46a
Subj: Re: NO10 vs Pier 3                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I am ready to purchase a new cd disc for my bbs.  In anyone's
>>    opinion, which would have newer files or which do you feel
>>    is the better choice?  I have seen NO10 advertised for a
>>    special price of $39.00.  Is this a fair price?  Thanks for
>>    any comments.


Both cd's are good, but Night Owl 10 offers over 100 megs worth of files
that are dated Sept 1993. So, I'd have to say that Night Owl would be a
better cd.

As for price, we have them both in stock for $30. ec . If your interested,
give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy
to ship you a copy or two.

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5757
  To: BILL COOMBES                             Date: 10/06/93  2:46a
Subj: Re: TOSHIBA-CD ROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I'm thinking on purchasing the Toshiba xm 3401b internal CD
>>    ROM. Can anyone give me some information on it?


Ok, it's a SCSI-2 system that offers 200ms average access time with a
330kps transfer rate. It's MPC compliant and Kodak double session
approved. It will work in Novell, OS/2 and Windows. This is a caddy
type system and you can dasiy chain up to 7 units off the same controller.

We have them in stock and they are priced at $389. for the bare system. If
you need further assistance, please feel free to give us a call at
216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Hope this helps...

Boris Osadciw

... Oh never mind!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5758
  To: BENJAMIN SMITH                           Date: 10/06/93  2:46a
Subj: Re: Which CD Rom?                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I am looking for a good external CD Rom in the range of
>>    $200-$350.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  I figured this
>>    would be the place to ask. I would appreciate any input.
>>    Thanx.

We currently have a stock of NEC74 External units that are 280ms drives
and are SCSI based system. These are brand new and come with the drive,
caddy, power cord and manual. The price on these units are $389. !

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy
to assist you further.

Hope this helps...

Boris Osadciw

... Every Silver lining has a clone around it.
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From: COREY BICCUM                           Number: 5759
  To: ALAN ORNDORFF                            Date: 10/05/93  5:55p
Subj: cdrom cable                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ahhh, that sounds good allan, now the only problem is that I call the 1-800 #
for creative labs, and it just rings and then I get the message all our
operators are busy, then it logs me off... anyone have this problem?


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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 5760
  To: ROB PERELMAN                             Date: 09/27/93  5:15p
Subj: Re: FREE CATALOG                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Rob Perelman to All <=-

 RP> you have to do is send me your name and address or your fax number and
 RP> he will mail you a free catalog by mail or fax 

OK, send me a mail catalog: Dick Huddleston, 925 S. Mason Rd #180, Katy,
Texas, 77450.




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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 5761
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/27/93  5:15p
Subj: Re: Reviews                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Jere Wessell to Bob Jackson <=-

 JW> Keep the reviews coming.  I enjoy the reading and you are doing the
 JW> rest of us a service.

Absolutely second that! It is tough for occasional users like me to know
just what to expect on a CD-ROM, and I have been disappointed
a couple of time with some I have purchased.  And, at $15 - 30 or more
per pop, I am not inclined to take too many chances.  Thanks for your
time in making the reviews, and posting them.

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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 5762
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/27/93  5:15p
Subj: Re: XXX POLICY CHANGE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Jere Wessell to Lee Noga <=-

 LN> We are no longer a "XXX" publishing house by choice
 LN> This may upset some folks and please others--"XXX" discs are too risky

I understand and can agree with your decision.  Too bad we have such a 
bunch of persons trying to either get a financial windfall or force
their viewpoints on others.  

Thanks for the previous publishing.  I am fortunate to have seen a 
couple of the disks, and know you do adhere to quality and product for
customer satisfaction.  Good luck in your future endeavors.




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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5763
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 10/05/93  9:55a
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Closeout                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <09-29-93 05:41> Jim Lambert wrote:

JL>> I guess I can rethink which titles.  I just don't want to risk any
JL>> chance of going to jail or paying large fines for pornography.

Your thinking clearly ! I use to operate as 'Monkey See, Monkey do' believing
the one I followed knew what they were doing....NOT! This has cost me thousands
of dollars, and put me at great risks in other areas-Each distributor should be
aware of their pornography laws, with familiarity with Federal law as well--It
will alarm you as you do some investigative checks. Your pulling out now, is
wise--

JL>> certain that T&A discs such as Southern Beauties and Busty Babes Vol
JL>> 2 are safe.

Never looked at 'Southern Beauties' but I'm sure it's a disc worth keeping and
there is no reason to liquidate this title--As long as there is no penetration,
you are not playing with 'XXX'--There are so few that are licensed collections,
and 'XX' (T&A, full frontal nudity) and SB is one of about 4--No need to dump
it.

Busty Babes II is also tame, and I would be lying to make a statement that any
title is safe--That I don't know, but I do know that nobody has been prosecuted
for softcore distribution. We went thru the expense of having our attorney,
review our product, image by image, and he felt that no jury could find it
'Obscene'--So, we are not worried about the disc, but each state could be
different, I dunno--You need to get the proper advice for your State, and make
your own decisions, just like we did. With cable, satellite, video and mens
mags, how could T&A on a different media be so horrible ? There are bigger fish
to catch then chasing T&A folks--Again, my opinion only. Consult with a first
amendment attorney, before you shutdown a prosperous side of your biz....it's
worth the money !!

All The Best Always !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5764
  To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                       Date: 10/05/93 10:00a
Subj: Not in prespective here                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Bob Jackson <10-04-93 14:51> Jean-Claude Demars wrote:

JD>> but I  was getting is "I spent 25 grand to put this
JD>> together, it's not trash"  response.

What you got was a sincere response which was minus a sales pitch. You have
hurt me feelings, and all I was trying to do was give you some insight. DO as
you please, but *DON'T* quote me unless you have enough respect to put it in
the prespective from which it was meant.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: MARC BUFE                              Number: 5765
  To: MARCEL PFEIFFER                          Date: 10/05/93  7:47p
Subj: BTX/C64EMU/C64BBSs                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Marcel (SysOp(a))!

auf meine Anzi im Allgemeinen Pin, wo denn die BTX Folks von Backnang herum-
streunen (komme mir recht einsam vor in Sachen "Backnanger BTXer" - bisher
kenne ich nur 3 andere BTXer - mein Nachbar - ein CB-Funker - und noch ein
CB-Funker aus Waldrems) bekam ich eine Response von Dir. Daraus wurde ich 
allerdings nicht ganz schlau, was Du nun genau suchst:

a) den C64/C128 Emulator fuer PC (naja, ist ziemlich lahmer als Original C64)?
b) BBS-Nummern von C64/C128 Boards? (Kenne bis jetzt 10 Stueck)  
c) Infos ueber BTX? (Hehe, da kenn ich mich ganz gut aus ;-) )

falls Du geneigt bist, mir eine Response auf diese MSG zu schreiben, gib bitte
an, was Du nun genau suchst. 

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From: MARC BUFE                              Number: 5766
  To: MARCEL PFEIFFER                          Date: 10/05/93  7:57p
Subj: BTX/C64EMU/C64+C128-BBS-NR.             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: MARC BUFE                              Number: 5767
  To: MARCEL PFEIFFER                          Date: 10/05/93  7:58p
Subj: BTX-Folks/C64EMU/C64-BBS-NR             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry, scheine ein bisschen Probleme beim Schreiben gehabt zu haben. Hier die
Fortsetzung: In den USA sind neuerdings 2000 C65 produziert worden (die Info
hab ich von Master MM Soft persoenlich - Matthias Matting - in Deutschland ein
bekannter PD-Versender, betreibt auch eine BBS - natuerlich 8 Bitter only).
Der C65 soll folgende Eigenschaften haben: 128 KB Rom, 128 KB Ram, 3,5" Drive,
Aufloesung 320*200 bei 256 Farben, Interlaced 1280*400, Stereo-Sid, Basic 10,
eingebauter C64-Modus usw. usf. Uebrigens wuerde ich gerne mal erfahren was 
Du von den Archimedes-Rechnern aus England haeltst. Schliesslich laesst der
aufgrund seiner Bauweise - RISC - alle Rechner hinter sich. Ich frage mich
sowieso manchmal was der Mist soll bei INTEL! Die Prozessoren werden immer
schneller und "besser", die Software wird dafuer in immer lahmeren Programmier-
sprachen geschrieben und... Speicher zaehlt ja nix... ist alles im Ueberfluss
vorhanden. So durfte ich es jedenfalls erfahren, als ich gleichzeitig dasselbe
kleine Miniprg auf dem 64er in Assembler, auf PC in Turbo Pascal schreiben
wollte. Der Maschinencode auf dem 64er benoetigte etwas an ein halbes KB, die
compilierte Pascal-Datei (das EXE-File) benoetigte UEBER 5 Kilobyte. Ange-
sichts dieser Speicherverschwendung zeigt sich ganz deutlich, COMPUTER schei-
nen nur noch zum Angeben da zu sein, nicht mehr zum Arbeiten. Da wird geprahlt
"ich habe einen 486DX2" (und der angesprochene XT 8088-User schluchzt), dann
prahlt wieder einer "ich habe 64 MB on board (jaja, der angebliche CAD-User,
der tatsaechlich aber nur Briefe damit schreibt)" usw. usf. So musste ich das
jedenfalls x 1000mal im BTX erleben. Dort sind auch Diskussionsbretter im
Gange, wo die Leute andere Compys zu Steinzeitschleudermaschinen verschimpfen
usw. Also ich bleibe meinem 64er (besser: meinen 6 64ern) treu, komme, was
kommen mag... ich kenne wenigstens alle Details dieses Computers, weil ich
seit 1990 in Assembler darauf code (u.a. Demos). 






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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5768
  To: HANK PETERSON                            Date: 10/06/93  6:36a
Subj: Industry changes                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Not on Fido. There's something called KINKNET that has a "general adult"  echo.
Can you get to a BBS with KINKNET on it? 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5769
  To: DICK HUDDLESTON                          Date: 10/06/93  6:37a
Subj: Re: Reviews                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks, Dick. Expect a few more shortly! 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5770
  To: MARTIN BELCKE                            Date: 10/06/93 12:20p
Subj: Shareware Reviews                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I've netmailed you my address if you want me to go ahead with a review of
Hackers Chronicles. I might mention that Arnie Gross has some experience in
this area; you might want to go to him also/instead of me. Your choice.

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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 5771
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/05/93  5:25p
Subj: CD's for Women                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>  LN> 69:23/23.


BJ> Lee:

BJ> What the **** kind of net address is this?

heh heh. Good eye Bob. Adds to her mystique doncha' think? <g>

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From: BRAD PAYNTER                           Number: 5772
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/05/93 10:45p
Subj: BBabes For Sale or trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi there-
I've got a copy of Busty Babes, not to sure whether it's volume one or not, but
since there is no volume number on it, I have to assume it is. I'd like to
trade it for a good map disk or a shareware disk or two. Of course I'll take
dead presidents if that's all you've got.
Leave a note here and I'll get back to you.

Peace - Brad


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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 5773
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/03/93 12:59a
Subj: CD-ROM Catalog!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Hello, Everyone!   I would like to tell you that Computer Works BBS now
has a new catalog of CD's.  We have greatly increased the amount of titles
available to order.  We now have 675 CD's in our catalog.  Out of the 675,
26 are Business, 85 are Art & Publishing, 108 are Education, 140 are
Entertainment, 15 are Literature, 23 are Music & Sound, 16 are
Programming, 131 are Reference, 91 are Shareware, 31 are Travel, and 9
are Utility CD's.  We will beat anyone's price on any CD.  Also, we now
have Hardware in our Catalog, so, if you would like a copy of our NEW
catalog, just leave your address and we will mail one to you.  If you
would like to make an inquiry about a certain or several CD's, just
leave me a message.  Thank you for your time! 
                                                  Mark
 
 Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! 
 Online Credit Card Ordering Available! 
 (205) 671-0092 - BBS 
 (205) 793-4481 - Voice 
 SysOp - Jim Lambert  CoSysOp - Mark Clardy
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From: DAVE BAKKER                            Number: 5774
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 10/03/93 10:39p
Subj: CANADIAN CD-ROM SOURCE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

( 09-29-93 ) Vince Sorensen wrote to All about CANADIAN CD-ROM SOURCE

->CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA
->6 Armstrong Bay                    306-789-4654 Voice
->Regina, Sk.                        306-789-8690 Fax
->S4N 4G7                            306-789-8682 BBS
->
->PRICES IN CANADIAN DOLLARS - U.S. CUSTOMERS CALL FOR CURRENT EXCHANGE
->RATE
->

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->

Could I be on your mailing list for cataloge

Dave Bakker
1350 3rd st louth
St.Catharines, Ont
L2R 6P9

Thanks


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From: DAVE BAKKER                            Number: 5775
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 10/04/93  2:34p
Subj: Buying Used CD's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

( 10-01-93 ) Pat Rickerson wrote to Catalino Alvarez about Buying Used
CD's

->World Atlas
->Compton's En.

How much do you want for these two? ( Canadien price ) Including shipping.

Also I'm from Canada, I don't know where you are from.

Dave


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From: DAVE RYDER                             Number: 5776
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 10/04/93 11:35p
Subj: CD-ROM SOURCE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Message entered on Oct 2,93 by MICHELLEA SORENSEN to ALL
***********************************************************************
MS>                    Canada's CD-ROM Source is...

MS>                    CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA

    Just a brief note to say that the order I placed last week arrived
    promptly today.

    Thanks for the quick service.

***Dave.
 Entered Oct 4,93 from Mississauga, Ontario.    rn.1063@rose.com
   
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 5777
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/04/93  1:35p
Subj: TIME ZONES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I remember this happening to me <g>.  Now the shoe is
-> on the other foot :-).
Hi Doug!

   The shoe fits more comfortably on this foot <g>. First of all,
I should thank you - that experience showed me that there was
a dire need for a Canadian supplier of CD-ROMs. That episode
caused me to do a bit of a survey - I ordered from 9 of the
dealers in this echo, and 5 dealers I found in the Computer
Shopper. I noted things such as ease of ordering, how LONG it
took to receive the package, etc. I placed future orders
accordingly - and now that I'm on the other position, I know
who I feel comfortable referring my clientele to if I can't
help them. :-)

   You've left out some essential differences between the two
incidents that I'm sure you noticed. Not only did you
have my phone number, you also had my VISA number, which
should shave half the time of any round trip off, not double
it. Without it there would be a week between when the order
was placed (dropped in the mailbox) and when a dealer receives
it. You also probably noted that when I find a problem,
I overkill it - 4 discs for the price of two, plus FedEx'ing
which cost me nearly as much as the total the customer paid.
As I've said before - I've been a customer longer than
I've been a dealer. I do my best to make _sure_ that no one
gets left hanging the way I experienced.

    Vince

    Voice 306-789-4654
    Fax   306-789-8690
    BBS   306-789-8682       ...download CDROMS!.ZIP for our
                                latest catalog!
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 5778
  To: BRUCE COPPIN                             Date: 10/04/93 10:55p
Subj: RE: CANADIAN CD-ROM SOURC               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Can you provide the US dollar price for CD Rom Mixed Up Mother Goose.
-> Thanks.  Also it might help to list both Canadian and American
-> prices?
Hi Bruce!
   Prices in US dollars are currently around 3/4 of those in Canadian
dollars. Mixed Up Mother Goose is about $22.50 US or $30 Canadian. Basic
S/H is $2.50US per disc - that's via Canada Post and US Mail.
   Vince
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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 5779
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/04/93  4:02p
Subj: DESIGNER 4.0 on CD- CHEAP!              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LATEST Micrografx DESIGNER 4.0

FULL version - NOT an upgrade!

Complete: All disks
          All Documentation
          Photo Magic retouching pkg (lists for $150!).
          Adobe Type Manager 2.5
          CD ROM w/ program, fonts, clipart
          NO Reg card


> BEST OFFER OVER $100 <


412-761-9090  fax: 412-766-3299

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 5780
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/05/93  3:38p
Subj: cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can someone tell me if there is a cd out that has the Borg ( decent scans ) and
maybe even Borg's talking?

                                Mike Harris

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From: ROY NEUDECKER                          Number: 5781
  To: BILL COOMBES                             Date: 10/04/93  8:12p
Subj: Toshiba-cd rom                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BC> I'm thinking on purchasing the Toshiba xm 3401b internal CD ROM. Can
  > anyone give me some information on it?

Sure here is some of the Specifications

1. APPLICABLE DISC FORMAT         Red-Book, Yellow-Book, CD-ROM XA,
                                  Photo-CD, CD-Bridge, & CD-I Ready

2. ROTATIONAL SPEED (CLV) *1
             1X                   Approx. 200 to 530 rpm
             2X                   Approx. 400 to 1,060 rpm
             2X mode (-2.2x)      Approx. 440 to 1,170 rpm

4. TRANSFER RATE
       (1 KByte - 2(10th power) Byte - 1,024, 1 MByte - 2(20th power)
       Byte - 1,048,576 Bytes)
   SUSTAINED BLOCK TRANSFER RATE   75 blocks/Sec (1X)
                                  150 blocks/Sec (2X)
                                  165 blocks/Sec (2X mode)
   SUSTAINED DATA TRANSFER
   RATE (MODE 1)                  150 KBytes/Sec (1X)
                                  330 KBytes/Sec (2X mode)
        (MODE 2)                  171 KBytes/Sec (1X)
                                  376 KBytes/Sec (2X)
   BURST (SCSI INTERFACE)         1.5 MBytes/Sec (Async)
                                  4.2 MBytes/Sec (Sync)

5. ACCESS TIME
   AVG. RANDOM ACCESS TIME   *2   310 mSec Typ. (1X)
                                  200 mSec Typ. (2X mode)
   AVG. FULL STROKE
   ACCESS TIME               *3   420 mSec Typ. (1X)
                                  330 mSec Typ. (2X mode)

6. DATA BUFFER CAPACITY           256 KBytes

*1: 1X rotational speed is fixed for CD-audio (Red-Book) format. For the
    other Formats, 2X mode (2.2X: default), 2X or 1X is selectable by
    command.

*2: Measured by performing multiple random access which means reads of
    data blocks over the whole area of media from 00 Min 02 Sec 00 Blk
    to60 Min 01 Sec 74 Blk more than 3000 times.

*3: Measured by performing multiple access which means reads of data
    blocks from 00 Min 02 Sec 00 Blk to 60 Min 01 Sec 74 Blk more than
    100 times.

Note: Test disc used for *2 and *3: TDY-03 (TOSHIBA)

RELIABILITY

HARD READ ERROR RATE (Byte error rate)  Mode-1: Less than 10(12th power)
-- Allowing 5 Retries --                Mode-2: Less than 10(9th power)

MTBF                                    50,000 POH

Uses Caddies, multisession Disc Spec compliant, Automatic Lens Cleaner,
Built-in SCSI-2 Interface Controller, Software Volume Control via SCSI-2
Mode Select Command.

So that about does it. Hope this will help. Haven't had any problems
with mine. I've had it about 8 months now.

 * SLMR 2.1a * THAILAND; If it aint raining its humidifying!!!

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 5782
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 10/05/93  4:13a
Subj: NO10                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris, how much for the NO10 by itself?  I have seen $39.00 as
the lowest so far.  Thanks, Randy.


... "What?!? This isn't the Files section?!?"
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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 5783
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/05/93  7:30a
Subj: FREE CD-ROM CATALOG                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SEND FOR YOUR FREE CD-ROM CATALOG
OVER 200 TITLES ---  $10.00 TO $50.00  (MOST UNDER $25.00)
FREE SHIPPING
LEAVE MESSAGE OR WRITE TO:
STEVE GREENO
2239 E. BROADWAY
TUCSON AZ. 85719
FAX # 1-602-292-0497

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From: TIGER MOSES                            Number: 5784
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 10/05/93  9:52p
Subj: Roms                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I left message via a SPIT bbs, I use bizzare Powerboard (for now...)Will
probably get EZ and try it out and see how it does with 2 ROMs.
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From: TIGER MOSES                            Number: 5785
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/05/93  9:58p
Subj: CD on Network                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Okay, tech support time.
I want to be able to access a CDROM accross a network.  I am using a simple
proprietary netowrk, similiar to PROMISElan by Moses software.  It's called
MainLan Easy.  Have little network card snad phone cable.  Have two machines,
one more or less acts as as server in my situation.  On this server one, I
tried putting a Mitsumi with its 16bit card.  I can get a dir, but that is it. 
Won't copy or even type a file.  And even on a long dir, its jumpy when it
scrolls.  If I check a hard drive over there, its barely any difference than a
local HD.  I was curious if maybe it was some conflict over there with New
Mitsumi (which worked fine on the local machine); so I tried going from machine
#2 to server, since I have a SONY that works great on #2, and get same exact
effect.  If I try to copy, I get a "WRITE" error on source, not destination! 

Do you think my network is too "weak" to handle CD technology or do I need to
go SCSI instead of the proprietary setups? 

Thanks.
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From: JARED MARTIN                           Number: 5786
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/04/93  6:44p
Subj: CD-ROM Catalogs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello.  I am a new sysop and was wondering if any of you could send me a
catalog of your CD-ROMs (Shareware CD's, etc).

Send info to:

Jared Martin
451 Wiley Hall SW
West Lafayette, IN  47906

Thanks a lot!!



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From: ROB O'DELL                             Number: 5787
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/05/93  9:46p
Subj: NEC Portable CD-ROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a few NEC Intersect 36 PORTABLE CD-ROMs laying around.
They are SCSI interface and come with power supply and manual.

$99.00 each.

Reply here or for best results netmail @ 1:2380/100.

Rob O'Dell


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From: JOHN RICKER                            Number: 5788
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 10/03/93  3:48p
Subj: Buying Used CD's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  |o|    Busty Babes 1.3


What would ya like for this one ?

John

 * OLX 2.2 * P+++ on yo###R #-#|g++ ++SE|_ s|\|Ea#<ErS.......


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From: JOHN RICKER                            Number: 5789
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 10/03/93  3:57p
Subj: Dealers Wanted!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SR|o| I am interested.
  |o| Send me some info and what kind of prices you have.

John Ricker,
1345 East Mercer lane
Phoenix, Az  85020


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From: JOHN RICKER                            Number: 5790
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 10/03/93  4:00p
Subj: Busty Babes for Sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KP|o| I have Busty Babes the one with Bam Bam on it, It's BB #1, Will sell to t
  |o| highest Bid.


Well I will Start the bid off at $12.50....

John Ricker

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From: JOHN RICKER                            Number: 5791
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 10/05/93  5:44p
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Hacker Chr               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dave,

Would it be possible for ya to tell me where i could find the above
mentioned CD ?


Thank you...

John Ricker


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From: JOHN RICKER                            Number: 5792
  To: BRIAN BOURNE                             Date: 10/05/93  5:46p
Subj: Busty Babes Volume 1, No.               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BB|o| It clearly states on the inside track of the CD "BB Vol1No1"

BB|o| So I'm selling my Busty Babes Volume 1, Issue 1.

BB|o| Highest bidder takes it.

BB|o| Call me at 416-225-0205.

Brian,

 I'm not sure if ya got my bid or not, but i'll start the Bid at
 $12.50..

Thanks


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 5793
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 10/04/93  7:12p
Subj: Starvector Software                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Not too tough to do, I use to research stuff at my father's law offic
-> was younger...guess you could start by:

Drop it.  EOT.

tim
moderator


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From: TROY JOHNSON                           Number: 5794
  To: ROB O'DELL                               Date: 10/06/93  6:44p
Subj: NEC Portable CD-ROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RO>I have a few NEC Intersect 36 PORTABLE CD-ROMs laying around.
  >They are SCSI interface and come with power supply and manual.

RO>$99.00 each.

Can you give me some specs on the CD rom players?

troy johnson

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5795
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 10/07/93  8:40a
Subj: Boardwatch Posts                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dan:

Thanks for putting these posts up! I don't have a subscription to BW, and
my newsstand is somewhat unreliable w.r.t. having copies. I'd like to fol-
low along with the progress of this article. Please continue to provide it
to the echo! Thanks. (Hope there's no copyright problems here.)
... DOS never says "EXCELLENT command or filename"...
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From: MIKE MUNNELLY                          Number: 5796
  To: BRIAN BOURNE                             Date: 10/04/93 10:05p
Subj: Busty Babes Volume 1, No                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BB>It clearly states on the inside track of the CD "BB Vol1No1"
BB>
BB>So I'm selling my Busty Babes Volume 1, Issue 1.
BB>
BB>Highest bidder takes it.
BB>
Hi Brian, I don't know the cost of these things, but I'll offer you $30 
Canadian for it.  
 
Mike


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From: ADRIAN SALAS                           Number: 5797
  To: KEVIN KING                               Date: 10/06/93  7:05p
Subj: RESELLERS QUAERTERLY                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KK=>RESALE93.ZIP and introduction of


I would be interested in this publication, could you send some info?
Send to:

San Diego Rom Connection
2434 East 32nd Street,
National City, CA 91950-7710
Attn: Adrian Salas

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From: ADRIAN SALAS                           Number: 5798
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/06/93  7:10p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR OCTOBER 9 1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

      ***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
      ------------------------------------------------------------
     |                      NIGHT OWL 10                          |
     |                                                            |
     |                         39.00                              |
     |                                                            |
     |            650+ Megabytes of Fully BBS Ready files         |
     |____________________________________________________________|

   ******************* UPDATED PRICE LIST ***********************
                        October 1, 1993

SUPER CD 1................ 22.00    SUPER CD 2............... 29.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 2....... 30.00    SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3...... 35.00
NIGHTOWL 9................ 32.00    NIGHTOWL 8............... 29.00
SOUNDWAV.................. 26.95    SHAREWARE EXTRAVAGANZA... 55.00
PC-S1G 12................. 41.50    SOFTWARE VAULT........... 28.00
DESKTOP PUBLISHERS DREAM.. 39.50    TIME DESERT STORM........ 29.95
PC MEDIC.................. 32.50    CICA WINDOWS............. 29.00
VGA SPECTRUM v2........... 19.00    CD-CADDYS................ 4.50
DR. WINODOWS...............22.00    DR. GAMES................ 22.00
DR. MUSIC................. 22.00    DR. SHAREWARE............ 22.00
Americas Premire.......... 18.75    Gigabyte Gold............ 36.50
Phoenix Version 3.0....... 19.50    Shareware Avalnche....... 39.00
Sharware Galore........... 37.50    Sharware Overloard....... 37.50
Shareware Tiger........... 39.00    World Vision............. 79.00
Window Master............. 39.00    Software Vault GOLD...... 35.00

************************** ADULT TITLES ***************************
Note: You must be 21 or over to purchase these titles
ECTASY HOT PICS........... 35.00    BUSTY BABES.............. 35.00
ASIAN LADIES.............. 35.00    PC PIX 3................. 35.00
PORKWARE 2................ 35.00    HOT HUNKS................ 35.00
LUCIOUS LADIES............ 35.00    EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2...... 35.00
Beach Babes............... 39.00    Animation Fantasies 1.... 39.00
Animation Fantasies 2..... 39.00    Gay/Bi/Lesbians.......... 39.00
Giffy Girls Gold.......... 39.00    Hot Pix 4................ 39.00
Hot Pix 5................. 39.00    My Private Collection 1.. 29.00
My Private Collection 2... 39.00    PC PIX 1................. 39.00
PC PIX 2.................. 39.00    PC PIX 3................. 39.00
Porkware 1................ 39.00    Private Pictures......... 36.00
Stareware................. 34.00    Storm 1 ................. 28.00
Storm 2................... 39.00    Storm 3.................. 41.00
Wicked.................... 69.00
************************ CLIPART **********************************

Clip Art Galore........... 25.00    Clip Art Goliath......... 25.00
Corel ArtShow............. 79.00    Font Fun House........... 39.00
Lovely Ladies 2........... 39.00    Media Clips Business..... 29.00
Media Clips Island........ 29.00    Media Clips Jets......... 29.00
Media Clips Majestic...... 29.00    Media Clisp Money........ 29.00
Media Clips Wild.......... 29.00    Media Clips World........ 29.00
Mediasource.............. 289.00    Mediasource 2........... 289.00
Mediasource Historical... 289.00    Mother Earth 2........... 29.00
Quick Artline............ 219.00    SoMuch Screenware........ 35.00
Electronic Library of Art  69.50

*********************** BUSINESS & REFERENCE **********************

Atlas of US Presidents.... 29.00    Atlas Pack............... 89.00
Berlitz Think & Talk......149.00    Bibles & Religion........ 24.50
CD-ROM Dierctory......... 109.00    Cinimania............... 295.00
Colosal Cookbook.......... 24.00    Complete Bookshop........ 24.00
Comptons Encylopedia..... 159.00    Corel Draw 4.0.......... 489.00
Dictionaires & Languages.. 24.50    Food Analyst............. 49.50
Food Anylst Plus......... 149.00    Ham Radio v3.0.......... 149.00
Information USA.......... 119.00    KGB-CIA World Fact Book.. 39.00
Corel Draw 3.0........... 149.00    Monarch Notes............ 79.00
MS Office for Windows.... 589.00    Multimedia Audobons Birds 39.00
Multimedias Audons mamals  29.00    Multimedia World Fact book39.50
Murmurs of Earth.......... 49.00    Our Solar System......... 24.00
ProPhone 1993 7 cd set... 179.00    Publish It............... 69.00
Sound Sensations.......... 24.50    Space Adventure.......... 36.00
Mamals National Geograpic. 39.00    Techno Tools............. 24.50
The Bible Library......... 24.50    The Books list........... 49.50
The Family Doctor......... 39.00    Too many Type Fonts...... 24.50
Total Baseball............ 59.00    US Atlas with Automap.... 39.00
Encarta.................. 295.00    World Atlus CD-ROM....... 29.00
World Vista............... 63.00    Elecrtonic Home Library.. 59.00
Time Table of History..... 38.00    Toolworks Reference Library31.90

Mavis Beacon Teaches typing v2.0 39.00
Sports Illistraded Almanac 49.00
Street Atlus USA WINDOWS 92.50
Multimedia Animals Encyclopedia 56.90
Library of the Future 2nd Edition 159.00
1992 Time Magazine Compact Almanac 69.00
The Electronic Library ofArt 89.00
Groiler New Multimedia Encyclopedia 295.00
Dinasours & Multimedia Encyclopedia 89.00
Vital Signs The good health resource 83.00
Comptons Interactive Encyclopedia for Windows 299.00

               ************* GAMES, ROLE PLAYING **********

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From: ADRIAN SALAS                           Number: 5799
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/06/93  7:10p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR OCTOBER 9 2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

(Continued from previous message)

Arthurs Teacher trouble 34.90 Bakers Dozen Game Pak for Windows 29.00
barney Bear Goes to Space 39.00 Battle Chess Enhanced 40.00
Conan 31.00 Deathstar Arcade Batlles 24.50 Future Wars 54.50 Guy Spy 39.00
Jones in the Fast Lane 29.00 Just Grandma and me 44.00 Kings Quest 5 39.00
Kings Quest 6 39.00 LOOM 29.00  Mixed Up Mother Goose 29.95
Murder Makes Strange Dead Fellows 45.00 Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe 29.00
Space Quest 4 29.95 Spaceship Warlock 79.95 Spirit Of Excaliber 79.00
Stellar 7 29.00
7th Gyest 59.00 The Advuentures of Willly Beamish 52.50 Chessmater 3000 29.00
Lost Treasures of Infocom 59.50 Lsot tresures of Infocom 2 44.95
The manhole 44.97 The Secret Of Momkey island 35.90 Ultima I-VI series 49,95
Where in the world is Carmen San Diego 29.00 Wing Commander plus Secret
Missions 1& 2 69.95 Wing Commander 2 69.00 Wrath of the Demon 37.50

        -------------------- end of list ---------------------------
*All in stock and ready to ship.


* Shipping is 5.00 up to 3 cds .50 each additional.
* CA Residents add 7.75% Sales Tax
* SEND check/money order in US funds payable to ADRIAN SALAS to:
  SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION
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From: VBALLNUT                               Number: 5800
  To: TIGER MOSES                              Date: 10/06/93 11:13p
Subj: Re: CD on Network                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Tiger Moses to All <=-

 TM> Okay, tech support time.
 TM> I want to be able to access a CDROM accross a network.  I am using a
 TM> simple proprietary netowrk, similiar to PROMISElan by Moses software.
 TM> It's called MainLan Easy.  Have little network card snad phone cable.
 TM> Have two machines, one more or less acts as as server in my situation.
 TM> On this server one, I tried putting a Mitsumi with its 16bit card.  I
 TM> can get a dir, but that is it. Won't copy or even type a file.  And
 TM> even on a long dir, its jumpy when it scrolls.  If I check a hard drive
 TM> over there, its barely any difference than a local HD.  I was curious
 TM> if maybe it was some conflict over there with New Mitsumi (which worked
 TM> fine on the local machine); so I tried going from machine #2 to server,
 TM> since I have a SONY that works great on #2, and get same exact effect.
 TM> If I try to copy, I get a "WRITE" error on source, not destination!
 TM> Do you think my network is too "weak" to handle CD technology or do I
 TM> need to go SCSI instead of the proprietary setups?

It may be your network cards and/or software that's creating a performance
problem.  If your cards are 8-bit cards, you'll be limited to the amount of
throughput the cards can handle.  I have 8-bit Ethernet cards for my setup
and I get just under 2meg/sec, but I'm running LAN Services on OS/2 2.1.
Also, I don't know what capabilities phone wire has, so you may look into
that too.

As to the errors on the CD-ROM drive, you may try to see what the
settings are for your userid to that shared device.  If you only allow for
it to view the shared device, that's all it's going to do.
 
... The difference between boogers & broccoli ??  kids won't eat broccoli
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From: DON NELSON                             Number: 5801
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/07/93  1:51a
Subj: PRE-ORDER OS/2BOX!                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MS>                        - DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE -

What quanity does one have to buy to qualify for dealer pricing?

Mix & Match?

Thanks,

.dn 
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5802
  To: THOMAS ALLRED                            Date: 10/05/93  6:05p
Subj: cd-roms wanted x-rated                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TA> i would like to order total fantasy 1
 TA> if you will send c.o.d.
 TA> i am over 21
 
Logged and acknwoledged....will go out shortly.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5803
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/05/93  6:08p
Subj: PROGRAMMER'S MEGAPACK $29               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 MS>            |                                 |  |               |
 MS>            |  Title:  PROGRAMMER'S MEGAPACK  |  |  Price:  $29  |
 MS>            |_________________________________|  |_______________|

Could use one of them too Mike...please send me one......Thanks!

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5804
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 10/05/93  6:19p
Subj: NO10 vs Pier 3                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RN> I am ready to purchase a new cd disc for my bbs.  In anyone's
 RN> opinion, which would have newer files or which do you feel
 RN> is the better choice?  I have seen NO10 advertised for a special
 RN> price of $39.00.  Is this a fair price?  Thanks for any comments.

We will have it in a few days...should be a real good one.  Our price is $29
plus $5 shipping.  Call us at 800-547-7817 to order.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5805
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 10/05/93  6:22p
Subj: Dave Reed vs GroupWare                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 IA> DAve Reed is also a former employee of GroupWare 
 IA> who has been terminated due to his merit. I wish 
 IA> him a good luck in his future. TTYL
 
He told me some interesting things about Ismail <g>.

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From: GREG JOY                               Number: 5806
  To: JOHN COLEMAN                             Date: 10/05/93 11:55p
Subj: loud and clear!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dude youre coming in loud and clear all the way over in South Florida!



Greg


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From: ANDY ACOMB                             Number: 5807
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/06/93  4:57p
Subj: CD-Rom drives... new...                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Here are just a few of the CD-ROM drives we sell and their prices...

Mistsumi                               $189           Retail    $369
Nec Multispin 38 Portable              $349                     $499
Nec Multispin 84 Internal              $439                     $649
Nec Multispin 74 External              $539                     $725
Toshiba XM-3401B Internal              $569                     $1029
Toshiba XM-3401E External              $669                     $1199
Chinon CDS-535 Internal                $489                     $645
Chinon CDX-535 External                $549                     $795
Chinon CDS-435 Internal                $319                     $629
Chinon CDS-435 External                $429                     $819
Magnavox CM-205XRS Internal            $329                     $549
Magnavox CM-405A Internal              $429                     $779
Magnavox CDD-462RS External            $439                     $789


Like I said... these are just a few of the drives we sell. All at
sub-wholesale prices. If you want more info on any of these drives or
others... e-mail me.

We also sell all hardware and software for any IBM PC. No one can beat
our software prices.

All products bought through us are delivered to your door, no extra
cost. If you need it installed... no extra cost. If you need a bit of
tutoring... no extra cost. Twenty-four hour a day service. If something
goes wrong at 3 in the morning... we'll be there.


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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 5808
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/07/93  2:11a
Subj: CD-ROM SOFTWARE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To all:
        I'm starting a new business and I am interested in selling CD software
as part of my services.  Any vendors interested please send me information and
prices or where I can send for this information.  Also, I would like to know
what kind of CD software has been the most popular lately.

                                Mark Smith

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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 5809
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/07/93  3:39a
Subj: Re: Review of SHAREWARE CDs             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bob -

04 Oct 93, Bob Jackson writes to Arnie Gross:

   BJ> Arnie - Sounds like you have a handle on it so I'll leave it
   BJ> to you and whatever the shareware producers want to do.
   BJ> Go get 'em!

I just posted my first group (at about 3:30 AM local time).....<g>

                                                  - Arnie :+}

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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 5810
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/07/93  3:41a
Subj: Analysis: ACTORS & ACTRESSES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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                    CD-ROM ANALYSIS: ACTORS & ACTRESSES I
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This is not a "review" in the traditional sense, but an unbiased "analysis" of
the product.  We suggest you make your own decisions based on our analysis,
rather than let someone else pass judgement for you.

To all CD-ROM publishers and distributors:  If you'd like to have a similar
analysis of your new releases published in the international file echoes, send
an evaluation copy of your product to: CD-ROM REVIEWS, Country Fair Software,
182 Pine Hill Road, New Fairfield, CT 06812  (203-746-1195, voice).

COUNTRY FAIR SOFTWARE HAS NO AFFILIATION WITH THE MANUFACTURER OF THIS DISC.

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(1) Publisher:                            Clark Ulmer / The Movie BBS
    (718) 321-3551 (voice)                P. O. Box 1793
    (718) 939-5462 (Data)                 Bowling Green Station
                                          New York City, NY 10274-1134

(2) Attractive packaging?                 Yes
    Promotional material available?       N/I
    Title visible on spine of Jewel Box?  Yes
    "FILES.BBS" in each directory?        No

(3) Volume ID: A_A_V1_N1                53245255 bytes total disk space
    ISO-9660 standard media               104960 bytes in 10 directories
    Creation date: 09-16-1993           53140295 bytes in 420 user files

(4) Unreadable, duplicate, or outdated files (N/A)

(5) Content:  308 high resolution images of your favorite actors (97) and
actresses (211).  A few swim-suit shots, no nudity.  Shareware viewers for
DOS, MAC, and Atari are included, in addition to the CDVIEW shell program.
This disc has ONLY photos of the stars, no background data on the actors nor
additional descriptive information on the photographs.

(6) Installation, Disc Menu ("Front-end Engine"), and Operation: Installation
is not required.  An excellent menu program (both DOS and Windows versions)
runs smoothly on all systems tested, using GIFDESK as a viewer.  There are
five "thumbnail" catalog screens, for previewing all the photos on the disc.

(7) Licensed for BBS use?  No.  The back cover specifically states that the
disc "may not be used on a BBS or similar system."

(8) Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price:          39.95

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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 5811
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/07/93  3:42a
Subj: Analysis: MONSTER I                     Refer: NONE
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                  CD-ROM ANALYSIS: MONSTER I (SHAREWARE)
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This is not a "review" in the traditional sense, but an unbiased "analysis" of
the product.  We suggest you make your own decisions based on our analysis,
rather than let someone else pass judgement for you.  We have not included a
breakdown of the "freshness" of the files, because so many shareware archives
carry inaccurate dates.  Where there are exceptions, they will be noted.

To all CD-ROM publishers and distributors:  If you'd like to have a similar
analysis of your new releases published in the international file echoes, send
an evaluation copy of your product to: CD-ROM REVIEWS, Country Fair Software,
182 Pine Hill Road, New Fairfield, CT 06812  (203-746-1195, voice).

COUNTRY FAIR SOFTWARE HAS NO AFFILIATION WITH THE MANUFACTURER OF THIS DISC.

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(1) Publisher:                            Hacker's World BBS
    (309) 672-4406 (voice)                4322 N. Padua Lane
    (309) 672-4436 (Fax)                  Peoria, IL   61615
    (309) 672-4447 (USR D/S 16.8)         Contact: Martin Belcke

(2) Attractive packaging?                 No printed insert in Jewel box
    Promotional material available?       No
    Title visible on spine of Jewel Box?  No
    "FILES.BBS" in each directory?        Yes

(3) Volume ID: (none)                  502987002 bytes total disk space
    ISO-9660 standard media              1047552 bytes in 125 directories
    Creation date: 08-04-1993          501939450 bytes in 4092 user files

(4) Unreadable files                             12     2,581k     2.5 mb
    Duplicates (or newer versions) on disc      231    52,070k    52.1 mb
    Outdated files                               63    66,081k    66.1 mb
    Non-program files (FILES.BBS, etc)          574     1,332k     1.3 mb
                                                                 --------
    Total of files in groups above:             880              122.0 mb

(5) Content:  After deducting the 122 mb in the 880 files above, the disc
still contains a total of 3212 files, or 380 mb of recent shareware.

"Unreadable" files include a dozen files whose names do not adhere to ISO 9660
file naming conventions (1st character in the filename must be alphanumeric).
Note: These files CAN usually be read under OS/2.

"Duplicates" include IMPRT26A.LZH & ZIP, SHEZ90A.ARJ & ZIP, SBACK1.EXE & ZIP,
2XTO3X.EXE & ZIP, VIRX28.ARJ & SDN, etc.

"Newer versions on disc" includes multiple versions of McAfee OS/2 SCAN (4
versions), LaserMax Check Maker (5), QuikTBrowse (3), ShowMe Saver (4), SIO
Drivers (21), MR2 QWK mail reader (5), MemSize (5), WPTOOLS (5), Word Search
Creator (3), CDPRO (5), Thunderbyte Anti-Virus (5), Dual Mod Player (4),
PPoint (5), etc.

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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 5812
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/07/93  3:42a
Subj: MONSTER I - Part 2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

(Continued from previous message)

"Outdated" files include BOTH the complete 3.5" and 5.25" releases of OS/2
v1.3 (which may still be of interest to some users).

File summary by category and directory (DIRNAME / # of files / total bytes):

COMMUNICATIONS/MAIL/SYSOP
  SOFTDIST   112   11034727            SDSBINK      6     101345
  SDSFRONT    18     788027            WDNET3     240   15972889
  DB_SOFT     40    4535608            IMAIL        8    1071717
  COMTELEM     8     723212            COMTELIX    15    1354546
  COMUTILS     4     596440            SDN_COMM    34    4467997

EDUCATION/GAMES
  EDUCHILD    14    2006574            EDUCMATH     6     416660
  EDUCMISC    32    3872781            GAMESA-M    46    5276645
  GAMESN-Z    31    2650530            SDN_GAME    43    6638721
  MORAFGAM    11    1854710

TEXT FILES/ELECTRONIC PUBLISHING
  EP-ASCII    35    4079385            EP-BOOK      7     685086
  EP-MAG      15    1666651            EP-TOOL     12    1263640
  SDN_TEXT    50    2281365            SV_MISC     15     209910
  SV_POL      18    1115289

GENEALOGY
  GENEDEMO    11    1489845            GENEPAF     31    2033019
  GENEPRG     31    4523356            GENETXT    139   10233321

GRAPHICS/DTP/CAD/FONTS
  GRAPDESK     7    1123737            GRAPDRAW    13    1160356
  GRAPENGI    23     232381            GRAPVIEW     7     248039
  ACAD_DRV    12     888930            ACAD_LSP     8     134734
  ACAD_MSC    14     727763            DTP_FONT    17     944940
  DTP_UTL      6     275191            SDN_GRAP    12    1627925
  WDN_GRF     14     923343

WORD PROC/DATABASE/FINANCIAL
  BUSIACCT    19    2685593            BUSIMGMT    29    3036920
  HOME-DB      7     507639            SDN_BUSI    37    3379293
  SDN_DATA    74    8152462            SDN_WORD    28    2953476
  WDN_GEN     10     676606

NETWORKS (MAC/UNIX/LAN etc)
  LANNET      71    3479391            N_N2XX       6     787606
  N_N3XX       9    1573201            N_NBTRV     17    3645928
  N_NCOMM     28    2610213            N_NLITE     11     454856
  N_NOTHR     73    4906502            N_NTECH     22    2988006
  N_NTXT      14    1545891            N_NUTIL     11    1112333

HAM RADIO
  HAMANT       7      89791            HAMCOMM      5     325763
  HAMLOG      14    2445497            HAMMODS     11     139000
  HAMNET     232     606297            HAMPACK     38    8433954
  HAMSAT      72    1797130            HAMSCAN     10     310573
  HAMSWL      85     214783            HAMTRAIN     9     635355
  HAMUTIL     10     257162

OS/2
  FWAPPS      49    7902952            FWCOMM      70    7973827
  FWDRIVRS    27    2601480            FWGAMES     18    1665089
  FWLAN        7     315992            FWREXX      19     966063
  FWSYSUTL   153   79727117            FWUTILS     74    8552944
  IBMEWS      36    3385655            IBMINFO     36   12970183
  IBMOS2FX   173   63645939

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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 5813
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/07/93  3:43a
Subj: MONSTER I - Part 3                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

(Continued from previous message)

CLIPPER
  CL-50       59    2768347            CL-52       24     763530
  CL-87        6      74419            CL-DOC      27     427596
  CL-FCO      31    1058548            CL-TOOL     56    7561945

PROGRAMMING
  PDNAI       14    1315895            PDNASM       9     625015
  PDNBASIC    25    3812220            PDNCEE      28    3514775
  PDNGNDOS     7     440838            PDNLANG     18    4358011
  PDNNEWS     24    2500369            PDNOS2      16    3929288
  PDNOTHER     6     274630            PDNPASCL    41    5226032

SOUND SUPPORT
  SNDAMGSU     8     632230            SNDMIDIS     8      40894
  SNDOSUND    28    3878320            SNDSBUTL     7     479588
  SNDSBVOC     8    1097541            SNDTRAK     21    1751958

WINDOWS/WINDOWS NT
  WIN_DATA    33    7486820            WIN_DRVR    12    1848672
  WIN_GAME    55    8107557            WIN_PROG   124   22744600
  WIN_SOUN    18    1391325            WIN_SYST    30    3946671
  WIN_UTIL   131   14177762            NT_FIX      20     657949
  NT_GEN      18    1310607            NT_MSG       8     407767
  NT_TOOLS    44    4868076

MISCELLANEOUS
  ARCHIVER     7     396179            DVN-TECH     6      20373
  HOMEGENR     8    1015691            HOMEHELP     8     399889
  IDC_MISC     7    1218206            IDC_REL     29    1107410
  SDN_MISC    54    6036231            SDN_OTHR    15     680525
  SDN_UTIL   207   13837512            SV_NCRPT    43    2041156
  UTIL4DOS    10    1245340            UTILNET     66    9233619
  UTILPRNT     5      44586

(6) Installation, Disc Menu ("Front-end Engine"), and Operation: There is no
installation program, nor is a front end provided.  You simply access this
disc as you would an additional hard drive.  The "DIRS" directory contains
"FILES.TXT" (created 07/16/93), which is a complete file listing for the
entire CD-ROM, organized by Directory.  Files are organized by the Network
from which they were obtained, and only then by subject matter.

(7) Licensed for BBS use?  We can safely assume so.  These files have all come
from national file echoes, and Hacker's World has not added any proprietary
software to this disc.

(8) Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price:          $ 45.00


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From: CRAIG NYLUND                           Number: 5814
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/07/93 11:57a
Subj: meds-cd                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Is there a cd that covers most pharmacy medications like a PDR?  If so, where
can I get it and  how much? 
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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 5815
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/07/93  1:59p
Subj: Encyclopedia for sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a couple copies of Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia for Windows for
sale.
Version 1.01  (1992 edition)..........................$50.00
Version 2.01  (1993 edition, just released)...........$65.00
If interested, post here or call 1-504-893-7279.

Thanks,

Michael Sells
309 East Saint Mary Drive
Covington, LA 70433




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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5816
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 10/01/93  4:21p
Subj: REVIEW OF STAREWARE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>In fact I believe that Storm I was the ONLY disk to come out before this one!

So Much Stareware has been out a while, but a LOT of the other "adult" ROMS
predate it.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Sweet Pandora, ..., open up your door for me....

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 5817
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/06/93  7:10a
Subj: Night Owl 10 $25                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                  N i g h t   O w l   10 . 0
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 ***********           $ 25.00 a Copy !!!               ***********
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 *********               1-800-638-5757                   *********
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 *********           We Will NOT be out Sold              *********
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       ---->>>>>  BBS Ready - Has Files.bbs  <<<<<----

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From: LOUIS SOKOL                            Number: 5818
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 10/06/93  3:43p
Subj: Precision Mapping                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FG> Mike, I hate it when I loose track of a message thread, were we 
FG> talkingabout Street Atlas 2 on this one, or another mapping product, 
FG> and if so,which one, and if it was something other than Street Atlas 
FG> 2, whichproduct would you recommend (IYHO).  I replied with an order 
FG> forStreet Atlas 2 for $95.00, but if this program works as well as,

Have you looked at Sure Maps?  That is another mapping program on the market...


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From: PAUL T.NELSON                          Number: 5819
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/05/93  8:38p
Subj: Order                                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

<<***** On 10-05-93, MIKE SHANNON wrote to PAUL T.NELSON: *****>>
>PT>I faxed you an order today (Sat 10/2).  Last time it took 3 whole days
for
>PT>my order to get here and one of those days was Sunday!  I know you work
fast
>PT>but try to improve on that.  After all you have a reputation to uphold!
>Went out today, Paul. (10/4)  Thanks very much.  I would have
>hand-delivered it, but the Lotus is leaking, the Fiat is squeaking, the
>Dodge is creaking, and my wife is freaking.  As you can see, I'm needed
>here.  Maybe next time. <g>

It came today (10/5), 3 days again and one of them Sunday.  I AM impressed!
Thanks for your prompt service.  :) Paul





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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5820
  To: JIM COYLE                                Date: 10/07/93  2:07a
Subj: Re: Hey!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I'm looking into purchasing a 6 disk changer. Can anyone give
>>    me some information on which is the best for the price, etc?
>>    Thanks.

It all depends on how much you want to spend and what your going to
us it for.

We have both the DMR600 ( $739. ) and the DMR604X ( $1169. ) in stock.

So, if you need any information or advice, please feel free to give us
a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to assist you in
your selection.

Hope this helps...

Boris Osadciw

... What Bug! I left behind the roaches in New York!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5821
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/06/93  8:15a
Subj:  CD-Rom Closeout                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> that no jury could find it 'Obscene'--So, we are not worried abo  
 LN> disc, but each state could be different, I dunno--You need to ge  
 LN> proper advice for your State, and make your own decisions, just   
 LN> did. With cable, satellite, video and mens mags, how could T&A o  
                                                                       
  
Are you saying that this latest assault is more state-sponsored than 
federal? I'm not in the biz but I'd like to understand what's going on. 
Thanks, Lee. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5822
  To: PAUL T.NELSON                            Date: 10/06/93  8:22a
Subj: Order                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PT> That may be too much WOW!!!  We're talking kids here and tax dol  
 PT> Any other idaes??  :-)  Paul T.Nelson                             
                                                                       
  
You might look at "Compton's Encyclopedia" or "Animals" (names may not 
be exact - ask a dealer like Shannon or Osadciw or Lambert). Former is a 
grade school level 'pedia with pictures and text and a search engine - 
pretty "gee whiz" for the younger set. Latter is text, sound (no card 
needed), and motion (e.g. Tiger running and growling). Cold also try a 
dictionary/thesaurus combo. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5823
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/06/93  8:27a
Subj: Order                                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 MS> hand-delivered it, but the Lotus is leaking, the Fiat is squeaki  
 MS> Dodge is creaking, and my wife is freaking.  As you can see, I'm  
 MS> here.  Maybe next time. <g>                                       
                                                                       
  
Ya' know, if you move these gerunds around a bit, you can make some 
HILARIOUS combinations! (GD&R&R&R&R&R) 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5824
  To: HANK PETERSON                            Date: 10/06/93  8:32a
Subj: Replacement                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 HP>      The one thing that keeps bothering me, is why wouldn't a CD  
 HP>      work on all machines. You would think the manufacturer woul  
 HP>      them on a variety of equipment.  I would love to buy the ne  
                                                                       
  
I think it's the other way around. The drive manufacturers should test 
their products on a variety of types of CDs. I have an "ancient" Sony 
7205 (a 535 in an external case) that reads ANYTHING - like Mike's old 
Hitachi. It was sad to read all the posts from the Mitsumi, Tandy, etc. 
buyers that were having so many problems. I bought the Sony "by 
accident" - i.e. I didn't know any better - and am I ever glad!. If 
there's one thing I've learned from reading this and the "info" echo, 
it's "don't skimp on the hardware". Seems to be true for sound boards, 
too, but I still haven;t made that move. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5825
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 10/06/93  8:41a
Subj: TIME ZONES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 VS> As I've said before - I've been a customer longer than            
 VS> I've been a dealer. I do my best to make _sure_ that no one       
 VS> gets left hanging the way I experienced.                          
                                                                       
  
Live long and prosper, Vince. With an attitude like this you won't fail. 
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From: GREG WIGMORE                           Number: 5826
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/05/93  7:45a
Subj: MultiMedia Cd-ROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   I am interested in a MultiMedia Cd-ROM. There are some for sale in my
local area, I know there is one particular one, which is a really good
price, but I do not know much about it..I'd like some responses on how
the quality is of this brand of Cd...Who is it made by? This one is
320ms...Is this good enough to do most things on the Cd-ROM? Is Double
Speed very important?
   Anything that you can help me out on, is appreciated...

                                Thanks...


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From: JEFF BRUDERLY                          Number: 5827
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/05/93  5:11a
Subj: CD-ROM SYSTEM FOR SALE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I HAVE A TANDY COMPLETE CD-ROM SYSTEM FULLY OPERATIONAL. ASKING $150.
LEAVE E-MAIL TO JEFF BRUDERLY IF INTERESTED.
                                    THANKS, JEFF BRUDERLY


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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 5828
  To: COREY BICCUM                             Date: 10/04/93  2:25a
Subj: Return to Zork                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

It is out, but you might have to get on a waiting list at a software
dealer to get it.
 
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From: RICHARD VONZEL                         Number: 5829
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/06/93  8:57a
Subj: Tandy drives for sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  I have a Tandy (Mitsumi) internal 8 bit cd-rom drive for sale, 145.00 or
Best offer. Contact me here or netmail at 1:282/3022.

Richard.


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From: RUSSELL NABER                          Number: 5830
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 10/07/93  1:28a
Subj: Review of STAREware                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Ryan!

Monday September 27 1993, Ryan Denke writes to Russell Naber:

 RD> In a message of <23 Sep 93  20:04:36>, Russell Naber (1:15/24) writes:

 >> BJ> Sorry, no. I've only kept paper copies of them.
 >> Well thanks anyway.
 >> + Origin: BLACK DIAMOND BBS, GREYBULL WY , 307-765-2027 (1:15/24)

 RD> Hey you up there in Greybull! Greetings from Laramie! I'm only using this
 RD> BBS from Casper. I have most of the recent reviews saved to text files. IF
 RD> you send me a 3.5" disk and $1.50, I'll send them back to ya. Send to Ryan
 RD> Denke, 519 Downey Hall, Laramie, Wy 82070. I got them starting at
 RD> Stareware, PGG1, EE2, GOV1.


How big is it, how about zipping everything and announce the size and the FReq
address for all to see.

Russell

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From: JARED MARTIN                           Number: 5831
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/06/93  6:34p
Subj: Cool CD-ROM games                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello.  I was just wondering if any of you knew of any other
full motion cd games like 7th guest?  I've been looking at
a game called BattleChess Enhanced...anyone ever heard or seen
it?  Thanks...

Jared Martin


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From: ANTON THE PIMP                         Number: 5832
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/06/93 11:48p
Subj: hacker CD's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If anyone has any hacker cd's not including what I have (The Hacker Chronicles
and Forbidden Subjects) leave me E-mail with prices. 

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5833
  To: DAVE BAKKER                              Date: 10/06/93 11:27p
Subj: Buying Used CD's                        Refer: NONE
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Hello Dave!

04 Oct 93, Dave Bakker writes to Pat Rickerson:

 DB> ( 10-01-93 ) Pat Rickerson wrote to Catalino Alvarez about Buying Used
 DB> CD's

 ->> World Atlas
 ->> Compton's En.

 DB> How much do you want for these two? ( Canadien price ) Including
shipping.

 DB> Also I'm from Canada, I don't know where you are from.

I would like to get 17 for World Atlas and 35 for Compton. I am in Texas, USA
Pat

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From: BURRELL LEATHERWOOD                    Number: 5834
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 10/06/93  2:50p
Subj: FREE CD-ROM CATALOG                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

send me a catalog:
Burrell Leatherwood
410 South 7th St
Yukon, Ok   73099-3604

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5835
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/05/93 11:26p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE$ 1 of 3                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 October 1993            DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 10/5
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                                   1 of 3
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........49.00
 5-Star Premium Windows........27.00    Middle East Diary.............35.00
 7th Guest.....................39.00    MIDI Music Shop...............26.50
 9000 Sounds (New!)............25.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...25.00    Monarch Notes.................57.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Money, Money, Money!..........28.00
 American Business Phonebk 91..17.00    Monster Media 93..............33.00
 American Business Phonebk 92..19.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 American Business Phonebk 93..25.00    Mother of All Clipart.........23.50
 Aminet Amiga (New!)...........15.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....24.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......23.00    National Geographic Mammals...25.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....25.50    National Parks................24.50
 Arizona Images (New!).........25.00    Night Owl 4.1.................20.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
 Audubon's Birds...............23.00    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Battle Chess..................25.00    Night Owl 8.0.................24.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 9.0.................25.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 10.0 (In Stock!)....35.00
 Beyond the Wall of Stars......24.50    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl Games (New!)........29.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    Night Owl Graphics (New!).....29.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    North American Fax Book.......36.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....13.00    Original Shareware............10.00
 Business Master...............20.00    OS/2Box (Pre-orders)..........29.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    Our Solar System..............13.00
 California Collection.........17.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....27.00
 Canadian Shareware (New!).....22.00    PC-SIG 12.....................24.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    PC-SIG 13 (Pre-orders)........33.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC Gameroom...................27.00
 CD Powerbox 1.01..............15.00    PC Karaoke w/ Microphone......68.00
 CD Winbox 1.01................25.00    Pentomino.....................32.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Phoenix 3.0 ($6 w/ any order).10.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phoenix 4.0 (New!)............19.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phonedisc USA (New!)..........69.00
 Clipart Galore................28.00    Pier 2........................29.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 3 (In Stock!)............39.00
 Clipart Heaven................25.00    Pier 2/3 Pak..................59.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00    Pinacotheca Multimedia........24.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    Pixel Garden..................34.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Composer Quest................34.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency....95.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....15.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....66.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......77.00
 Computer Reference Library....13.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Conan the Cimmerian...........29.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5836
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/05/93 11:26p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE$ 2 of 3                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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                                   2 of 3
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50    Project Gutenberg (New!)......22.00
 Cookbook Heaven...............23.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak.......... 99.00
 Cybergenic Ranger (New!)......27.00    ProPhone 1993 Business........29.00
 Dagger of Amon Ra.............36.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Q&A 4.0.......................35.00
 Desktop Bookshop..............27.50    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Reader's Library..............28.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Reel Clips (New!).............35.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............33.00    Reference Library.............27.50
 Dinosaurs!....................34.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...39.00
 Dr. Games (New!)..............20.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
 Dr. Music (New!)..............20.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
 Dr. Shareware (New!)..........20.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
 Dr. Windows (New!)............20.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 DTPro.........................28.50    Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......54.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Electronic Cookbook (New!)....33.00    Shareware Online 1............25.00
 Electronic Home Library.......29.00    Shareware Online 2 (New!).....29.00
 Empire Clipart................19.50    Shareware Overload............13.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Shareware Studio 1............19.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.00    Shareware Studio 2............23.00
 European Monarchs.............35.00    Shareware Studio 3 (New!).....25.00
 Family Doctor.................26.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......26.50    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.00
 Firearms Reference (New!).....30.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...55.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...55.00
 Font Master 2.................28.00    Sights & Sounds...............25.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Game Arena (New!).............13.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Game Master...................20.00    So Much Shareware 2...........25.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....28.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Software Vault 1..............22.00
 Gameware Collection...........24.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....24.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Software Vault Gold (New!)....25.00
 Gardening (New!)..............13.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..19.00
 GIF's Galore (G-Rated)........16.50    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Giga Games (New!).............25.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Global Explorer...............93.00    Soundware Collection..........27.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    SoundWAV......................25.00
 Grammy Awards.................36.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Space Quest IV................24.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........29.50
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...23.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 93...33.00    Stellar 7.....................19.50

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5837
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/05/93 11:26p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE$ 3 of 3                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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                                   3 of 3
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    Straight from Heaven (New!)...25.50
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Street Atlas USA v1...........86.00
 Hamware 1993..................24.00    Street Atlas USA v2 (New!)....95.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    STW Illustrated Encyclopedia..34.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    STW Multimedia Encyclopedia...45.00
 House of Games................21.00    STW MPC Encyclopedia..........47.50
 Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00    Super CD 1....................19.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....10.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Super Games For Windows.......10.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Talking Jungle Safari.........35.50
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Talking Schoolhouse...........35.50
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....39.00    Technotools...................13.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........45.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..24.00
 Jets & Props..................28.50    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    Timetable of Business/Politic.26.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 King's Quest V................24.00    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 King's Quest VI (New!)........44.00    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    Total Baseball................27.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........22.00    Trump Castle..................28.00
 Lan Master (New!).............27.00    U.S./World Atlas 3.0..........23.00
 Languages of the World........45.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Learning Heaven (New!)........25.50    U.S. History..................29.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Libris Britannia..............42.00    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 Loom..........................19.00    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...39.00    VGA Spectrum 1................14.00
 Mac Shareware (New!)..........24.00    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........34.00    Visions of Saturn.............23.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Window Master.................20.00
 Majestic Places...............38.50    Windoware.....................13.00
 Manhole.......................35.50    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Mantis........................24.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World Atlas MPC...............26.50
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............27.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mega Clipart..................27.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf 1992 MPC..47.00    World Traveler................13.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..58.00    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    World Vision 3-Pak............43.00
 Microsoft Golf MPC (New!).....58.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00
 Microsoft Musical Instruments.57.00    X11R5/GNU.....................24.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5838
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 10/05/93 11:26p
Subj: NO10 vs Pier 3                          Refer: NONE
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RN>I am ready to purchase a new cd disc for my bbs.  In anyone's
RN>opinion, which would have newer files or which do you feel
RN>is the better choice?  I have seen NO10 advertised for a special
RN>price of $39.00.  Is this a fair price?  Thanks for any comments.

Well Randy, we sell both.  It's kind of like comparing Fords and
Chevys. 8)  Night Owl 10 has a higher percentage of "newer" files in the
August and September range, but it also has a higher percentage of "older"
files in the January to March range.  All things considered, with the
future of both companies one of them, I personally prefer the Pier 3.
MUCH BETTER interface, accurate ZIP dates, clean file listings, plus the
fact that I KNOW there will be a Pier 4.  Not so sure about Night Owl 11,
with the pending six-figure damage settlement hanging over Richard
Graham's head.  (this is all public info)  What's more, I'll give you a
better price:  Get your best *legitimate* price on Night Owl 10, and I'll
sell you a Pier 3 for $5 less.  At this time, Ismail's price of $20 on
Night Owl 10 cannot be verified, so until he actually has them in stock
and selling at that price, his ad is excluded.

If file dates are important to you:

            Pier 3: Approx. 98% of files dated newer than 4/1/93
           N.O. 10: Approx. 90% of files dated newer than 4/1/93

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5839
  To: GARY GILMORE                             Date: 10/05/93 11:26p
Subj: Need a CD                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GG> I'm looking for the cheapest price on the
GG> "Shareware Vault/Gold" CDROM.

$25 delivered.

.\\ike

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From: PATRICK SHEN                           Number: 5840
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/05/93  8:46p
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have following CD-ROMs for sale.  All CD-ROMs are in New Condition. Add $3
for UPS or Priority Mail shipping.

7th Guest by Virgin Games (2 CD set).  Smooth full motion video.  Best CD
ever made.                                    --------------  $42.00

Software Toolworks CD Deluxe Pack.  Includes ChessMaster 3000 MPC, Mavis
Beacon Teaches Typing MPC, U.S. Atlas MPC and World Atlas MPC.  Each has
own complete documents.                          --------------  $55.00

Software Toolworks CD Game Pack II.  10 games on one CD.  Each has its own
documents.                             --------------------  $25.00

LucasArts Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe.  Very good World War II Air
Combat Simulation game.  I'll include a mission/utilities disk as a free
bonus.                                      -------------------  $25.00

Wing Commander/Ultima VI.  Get 2 award winning games on one excellent CD
Space simulation and Adventure.  With all manuals and Registration card.
                                             ------------------  $27.00

Mixed-up Mother Goose MPC.  Sierra combines master storytelling with the
classic rhymes to create this children's adventure game.  Children learn
early reading skills and get introduced to the world of computers.
                                          ---------------------  $20.00

Deathstar Arcade Battles.  The most exciting arcade action and other games
of all time.                           ------------------  $15.00

American Business Phone Book 92 Edition.          -------------- $20.00

SelectWare System.  The Ultimate Software Demo System.   ------   $9.00

Amateur Models Adult CD.                      ------------------ $35.00

Hot Pix Volume 4 Adult CD.                      ---------------- $20.00

Storm III Adult CD.                              --------------- $20.00

If you are interested, please reply here to contact me at E-mail address
below.

Patrick Shen CompuServe: 72072,3612 Internet: pshen#simenv.com or
72072.3612@compuserve.com

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 5841
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/08/93  8:45p
Subj: gettin' in step                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

One of FidoNet's RCs has voiced concern regarding the commercial traffic
that flows thru this echo... And he's right.  This message will explain
the problem so that it won't happen in the future.

To the letter of FidoNet's policy, commercial advertising in an echo
is prohibited.  The reality is that FidoNet *tolerates* commercial
traffic as long as it's done in moderation and meets the echo's
intent.  There's a point where messages exit the toleration zone.

The reason commercial advertising isn't officially allowed is a good
one:  The amatuers who operate (and pay for) this network shouldn't have
to absorb the costs of putting money into someone else's pocket. And
that's fair enough.

We've ventured outside of the toleration zone.  Some vendors are
using this echo to conduct "one on one" business with their
customers - posts that don't "benefit everyone".  These type messages
will no longer be tolerated.

Example:      FS>> I just got the XYZ disc.  I love it
              FS>> and think it's great.  Thanks for
              FS>> being born.

              Hello, Fred... I'm glad we could be of service
              to you.  Call me anytime if you need any more
              CDs.  We love to make people happy and sell
              them CDs.  Call me anytime and we'll be happy
              to make you happy again. Thank you. Bend over.

              Thanks,
              Joe Vendor

Or something like that <seg>... ANYHOW, let's put a stop to "one on one"
type messages.  If you have any comments, I can be reached at the
numbers below.

tim
moderator

Voice : 404-621-9210
FAX   : 404-621-9122
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From: ADRIAN VERGOT                          Number: 5842
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/07/93  4:55a
Subj: Make your own CD-ROM!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM? 
 
CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your proprietary DOS or Windows
files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and Affordable.
All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information
(600+ Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (other
formats considered on a case by case basis) and we will directly
transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any
ISO compliant CD-ROM drive (just about every one made today!)
 
- Confidentiality is assured
- $99 per CD-ROM
- additional copies only $50 each
- Turn around time is about 2 days
- BBS Sysops call for rates
- We accept money orders and cashiers checks
- Pesonal Check orders will be shipped when check clears bank
 
If interested, call (412) 942-4694 and ask for Adrian 
Auto Fax (412) 942-4694
 
CD ROM Creations
108 Shady Lane
McMurray, PA  15317
 
Enclose a signed copy of the following disclaimer with your order:
 
DUE TO THE BULK NATURE OF THIS SERVICE, CD-ROM CREATIONS (c) DOES
NOT AND CAN NOT CENSOR AND DETERMINE THE NATURE OF THE MATERIEL
THAT THE CUSTOMER IS PROVIDING.  IT IS THEREFORE THE SOLE
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER TO ENSURE THAT NO COPYRIGHT
VIOLATIONS EXIST IN PLACING THE DATA ONTO CD-ROM
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From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                     Number: 5843
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/08/93  4:24p
Subj: Sounds/Animation                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a CD ROM of sound and animation files that I can put on my
BBS.  If you sell such a thing, or know where such a thing can be sold, please
let me know.

If you sell it, please also let me know what the cost is, if you have any kind
of warranty on the disk, and an example of it's content.

Thanks
JC


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From: MARK BROWN                             Number: 5844
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/07/93  9:48p
Subj: cd rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone know where I can get a GOOD internal rom at a reasonable
price?


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5845
  To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                       Date: 10/07/93  4:15a
Subj: Re: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Jim Lambert <10-05-93 14:11> Jean-Claude Demars wrote:

JD>> And I would buy from you before I bought from him for that very
JD>> reason.

You would buy from 'Jim' before you buy from *HIM*--If the inference was
towards myself, then let me be the first to notify you that I am a *HER*.
We agree on one thing, and that is to end the thread--You know what you expect
from a publisher, and I know what I deliver as one--So if your happy, and I am
happy, who really gives a d_mn anymore--

Being in touch with the industry is my profession, not my hobby--At least I had
enough sense to go out and buy 'Michael Jordan's' 1986 rookie card before they
raised the prices the day he retired. Can you imagine the sense I can make as a
publisher on CD-ROM , when I don't even watch 'Hoop'.

May you find whatever your looking for--You definately are more the exception
then the rule.

'Nuff said. I give up.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5846
  To: GEOFF REED                               Date: 10/07/93  4:23a
Subj: Re: Brand New Cd-rom Titles             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Mike Shannon <10-03-93 03:53> Geoff Reed wrote:

GR>> MS> TOTAL FANTASY * Newly released .GIF disc from Denmark

GR>>   Mike, is this Disk any good?  what sort of Pics are on it?

If this is the one imported in from Europe as a title vs having been published
in Denmark--The disc is a dupe of the best areas of other existing CD's so I
hear--Forget the name off hand, but one came in from Europe about 3 -4 months
ago, and distribution said it was a 'grassroot rehash', and discontinued
carrying it--Don't know if this is that one or not, but I hear this European
disc has a ditto of the 'Busty Babes' with T.I.T.S. BBS logo on it--For what
it's worth...its BBS domain stuff if its the one Im trying to think of,
otherwise, forget I wrote this. Brain dead....

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5847
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/07/93  4:34a
Subj: Inside tip                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Don't you love this echo for it's ability to get information out to a wide
range of users and publishers etc--Well, for all the closet publishers that
read this echo, got an update which supports what I have been saying about the
'Grassroot' industry falling by the wayside--

The pressing plant in Canada refused to press STORM IV because they will no
longer press collections that are not licensed--They no longer will get
involved in BBS collection of images because of the liabilities. Don't worry
about the title, they are probably going to press in Denmark--Now they have to
find the distribs that will take the chance of carrying it--In the last week,
several more distribs have announced they are getting away from the 'XXX'
material--Another big tradeshow, just announced that adult CD's can not be
displayed......our industry remains in a shake-up, and the consumer best grab
all they can, because these 'Hay' days are about dead.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: ANDY ACOMB                             Number: 5848
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/07/93  4:05a
Subj: X-Rated CD-ROM Software                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Nightwatch Interactive                           $59.95
The Interactive Adventures of Seymour Butts      $59.95
Hidden Obsessions                                $59.95
Adult Almanac                                    $99.95
The Dream Machine                                $39.95
House of Dreams                                  $59.95
Secrets                                          $59.95
Night Trips                                      $59.95
Girls of Stephen Hicks vol.1                     $29.95
Girls of Stephen Hicks vol.2                     $29.95
Adult Palate vol.1                               $59.95
Adult Palate vol.2                               $59.95
Legends of Porn                                  $39.95
Digital Dancing                                  $59.95


All available on MAc and PC...

                                            901-682-2022
                                                           Andy


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From: DAVE BAKKER                            Number: 5849
  To: BRIAN BOURNE                             Date: 10/05/93  9:11a
Subj: CD ROM's for Sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

( 09-26-93 ) Brian Bourne wrote to All about CD ROM's for Sale

->REMEMBER PRICES ARE IN CANADIAN DOLLARS AND ARE BASED ON PICKUP.  WILL
->YOU PAY SHIPPING.
->
->I have the following disks for sale.  Call me at 225-0205.  Prices
->are firm UNLESS more than one CD is purchased.
->
->
->Business Master - $15
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What's in this Cd?


->CD Game Pack II - $10
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Are these all Shareware games? and if they are what years?

->Between Heaven and Hell - $20
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  What is this?

->Comptons Multimedia Ency. NEW!
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This one looks good but thats beyond my wallet.

The others I might be interested in depending on what's in them.

Dave


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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 5850
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 10/06/93 10:56p
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Hacker Chr               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi there, I tink you ave me mixed up with someone else.

But tankz for the complement.

Dave Clark


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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 5851
  To: PAUL SWIDER                              Date: 10/06/93 10:58p
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Total Fan                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Sorry everyone, but you ave te wrong Dave Clark.

 But I do seem to be getting along nicely, tat's two letters of thankz
now.

Dave Clark


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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 5852
  To: CANADIAN CD-ROM BUYERS                   Date: 10/07/93  7:46a
Subj: ...CONTINUED                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dear fellow Canadians, here's

          *** Why you should buy Canadian, reason #12 ***

What happens if the CD-ROM you buy is defective, and you've bought
it from the U.S.? When this happened to me, I was lucky, because
I bought it from one of the fastest and most helpful dealers at
the time. Unfortunately, it still took 3 weeks round trip, and
customs decided that charging the G.S.T., etc. a second time would
be a good idea.   :(

We offer to replace or give complete credit for any defective
CD-ROM. The round trip will not involve any extra charges,
and we can even send out your replacement BEFORE you send yours
back. That's convenience, and how Canadian service is better
for *you*.

                   CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA

               6 Armstrong Bay * Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7
               306-789-4654 Voice * 306-789-8690 Fax
                    VISA/MC/MO/Cheque Accepted

           New titles weekly! Call for current specials!

P.S.
   Dear U.S. Customers:
      When you order from us, we ensure that you don't pay any
duties and taxes that don't apply to you - and you still get our
famous CD-ROM warranty!
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From: ROB MCINTYRE                           Number: 5853
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 10/08/93  1:07a
Subj: FREE CD-ROM CATALOG                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Will you carry the next version of Gifs Galore & those Amiga CD32 cdroms ?

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From: DAVID ROBERTS                          Number: 5854
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/07/93  9:06p
Subj: Busty Babes 1.0 4sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Instead of putting a stupid message in this echo that says, Busty Babes 1.0
for sale to highest bidder!, I'll go ahead and say I wish to sell this
original for $125 straight out.  If you are interested, please give me a
call at 808-624-1293 or leave a message here.  Thanks.  


... The Homeboy Shopping Network - Where Everything is For Sale!!!
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From: DAVID ROBERTS                          Number: 5855
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/07/93  9:06p
Subj: Busty Babes 1.0 4sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Instead of putting a stupid message in this echo that says, Busty Babes 1.0
for sale to highest bidder!, I'll go ahead and say I wish to sell this
original for $125 straight out.  If you are interested, please give me a
call at 808-624-1293 or leave a message here.  Thanks.  


... The Homeboy Shopping Network - Where Everything is For Sale!!!
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 5856
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 10/06/93 12:50a
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for the best price on a cd rom, sound card combo.
200ms seek time and at least 300kb per sec transfer.
16 bit sound card.
 
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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 5857
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 10/07/93  6:59a
Subj: Response thanks                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the prices on NO10 and Pier 3.  BTW, do you know
if my Mitsumi LU005 will have problems reading either of
these discs?

Thanks, Randy

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 5858
  To: TIGER MOSES                              Date: 10/07/93  7:03a
Subj: EZROM Door                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you are talking about EZROM Door to run discs from a bbs
I will say this:  I registered this program and have been very
pleased so far.  The author was helpful in getting mine setup
correctly and it is easy to change discs on-line once you do the
first one.  I would like to see some improvements but that is
common to most software programs.

Thanks, Randy

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 5859
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 10/07/93 10:49a
Subj: NO10 price                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Heard you will be selling the NO10 disc for a good price.
Let me know how much they are or will be.

Thanks, Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 5860
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/07/93  8:00p
Subj: Shareware Online 2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for info on the following disc:

Shareware Online 2.

Info such as total mb, file dates, what is the going price, etc.
Has any used this disc or Shareware Online 1?  I heard it was a
pretty good shareware disc for bbs use.  Thanks to anyone who
replies.

... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 5861
  To: COREY BICCUM                             Date: 10/06/93 11:19a
Subj: CDROM CABLE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Good luck trying to find that cable. Seems its only available from creative
labs if you buy their most expensive package... SBpro and cdrom etc etc.  They
wont sell it individually. I went through the same one.  I called Media Vision,
(the pro audio spectrum uses same cable) They didnt sell it either.  But if you
go to a show, you can get them there. They are $4, but know what kind of
connector you need at each end, as there are a couple different types.  But it
will work.  I beleive one end has 4 wires, and the othe has 5!!  You will find
it at a show though.... good luck.

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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 5862
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/06/93 11:30a
Subj: CDROM                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Help! Looking for used cdrom drive.  Must be true SCSI, preferably MPC compat. 
No card needed.  I can get new for $199, so if anyone sees a better deal,
please leave message here. Thanks.

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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 5863
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 10/07/93 11:45a
Subj: ASIAN LADIES FOR TRADE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have southern beauties... My advice is they should have called it southern
barnyards... I wouldnt make that one high on your list!  I was really
dissappointed.  I would like to buy the mystique of the orient as well.... if
anyone is listening....  :)

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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 5864
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 10/07/93  6:42p
Subj: cdroms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CDRoms for sale:

 Aminet June 1993                $15.00  Almost 600 megs of Amiga stuff,
                                         Thousands of GNU apps, C code,
                                         sound files, games...
 CICA Windows Aug. 1993          $15.00  640+ Megs of Windows stuff, utils
                                         games, drivers, icons, info, and
                                         tons of other stuff.
 CUG Library                     $25.00  Tons of C code from the C users
                                         Group. Mostly DOS, some UNIX.
 Garbo May 1992                  $15.00  375+ Megs of MSDOS/MAC from the
                                         Garbo Archive at the University
                                         of Vassa, Finland.  Interesting.
 GIFs Galore 1st ed.             $15.00  610+ Megs of .gif files. Animals,
                                         people, fantasy, tv, movies, more.
                                         320x280 to 1024x768
 Giga Games Aug. 1993            $22.00  450+ Megs zipped, 1 GIG unzipped!
                                         Games for MSDOS/Windows. Graphics
                                         Arcade games!  Adventure games!
                                         1000+ D&D files!  Much more.
 Hobbes OS/2  June 1993          $15.00  640+ Megs of OS/2, bunches of
                                         must have utils for OS/2 2.x,tons
                                         of other stuff for 1.x to 2.x.
 Info-Mac                        $27.00  10,000 programs for the MAC,
                                         desktop accessories, games,
                                         graphics, sound, tech stuff.
 La Coleccion Agosto 1993        $22.00  Mas de 6.500 archivos shareware
                                         y de dominio publico clasificados
                                         en 55 secciones con descripciones
                                         en espanol.  Listo para utilizar
                                         en BBS. DOS/Windows/OS/2. 475 Megs.
 Libris Britanica Issue 2        $35.00  650 Megs of Shareware from
                                         England!  This import has tons
                                         of MSDOS stuff you probabley
                                         have not seen... (With 124 pg.
                                         listing of files and descriptions)
 Project Gutenberg  July 1993    $22.00  Tons of classic lit/history from
                                         the Project Gutenburg archive, all
                                         low ASCII text, ISO-9660, readable
                                         on almost anything!
 ShareWare Heaven 1993           $25.00  400+ Megs of MSDOS/Win, good
                                         general CD, samples wide range
                                         of programs/utils, hits the
                                         highlights.
 Simtel MSDOS May 1993           $15.00  630+ Megs MSDOS, over 9000
                                         programs, drivers, tech info,
                                         graphics & sound stuff.
 Source  March 1992              $22.00  600 Megs of C code for just
                                         about every application: from
                                         AI to usenet.
 Soundwave                       $27.00  450 Megs of unique sounds, pro
                                         recordings at 16 bits.  Sounds
                                         as good as audio CDs. 200 Megs
                                         of sound files at 8 bits.    
Postage and Insurance is $5.00 per order, 2nd day priority shipping.
I will ship COD.  Add $5.00 per order for COD charges.

Send checks/money orders to, and/or feel free to contact:

Eric Bravick
USF 3008
4202 E. Fowler Ave.
Tampa, FL. 33620-3008

(813) 985-9619 (Voice)
(813) 985-9723 (BBS)
Netmail 1:377/53.0


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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 5865
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 10/06/93 10:45p
Subj: RE: CANADIAN PEOPLE CD-RO               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Yewoooo Dave.....$75.CAN for an OEM title !! We have it here for only
-> $35.US and even with the exchange rate that would only be about
-> $45.CAN.

  Forgot a point here as well - when I ordered from you before, when the
exchange rates were a bit better, my MC statement showed $35US = $50Cdn,
when the bank rates were showing $35US = $44 Cdn... apparently there's a
small charge (4%?) on behalf of the banks as well when you're doing an
international currency exchange (and don't get me started on the cost of
writing a cheque in US funds on a Cdn account). I had to open up a US
dollar account at my bank, because I was paying twice - once to convert
cheques from US to Cdn, then again to convert Cdn to US!

   Vince
   306-789-4654
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 5866
  To: DAVE BAKKER                              Date: 10/06/93 10:46p
Subj: CANADIAN CD-ROM SOURCE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Could I be on your mailing list for cataloge

   You've got it! Keep watching here for more specials, as well!
     Thanks,
     Vince
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5867
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/05/93  3:49p
Subj: BIG CD-ROM LIST 2/2                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

>MG>  > Kodak Photo CD Access.........22.00

>MG>Could you give me some more information on this one?

>Provides photographers with a means of viewing and editing pictures processed
>with the Kodak Photo CD system.

And most of the folks that have used both seem to prefer MathCad's "Tempra"
software.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Scatology, The science of shooing cats

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5868
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/05/93  3:56p
Subj: CD'S FOR WOMEN                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>LN> 69:23/23.

>What the **** kind of net address is this?

AdultNet, as I recall.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Up Stryphon!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5869
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 10/05/93  6:56p
Subj: WHERE IS TIM?                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> What happened to our "wheeling-dealing" moderator?

Gone on vacation?

> spending his millions in the Caribbean?

How do I sign up to help?

 8-)


 * SLMR 2.1a * Democracy can withstand anything but Democrats.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5870
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/06/93 12:43p
Subj: REVIEW OF STAREWARE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Still, patents  are supposed to last 35 years

17 years.

>but copyrights much longer

Lifetime of author + 50 years, per recent changes.

>That  doesn't jibe with the Xerox decision

The Xerox decision was that Xerox had NOT bothered trying to DEFEND it's stuff
for almost 10 years, indicating that they really didn't CARE.
 It's funny in a way, as Xerox is one of the STRONGEST defenders of their
Trademarks on most of their other stuff....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Not getting any messages? Is your name Maytag perhaps?

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5871
  To: DAVID NGHIEM                             Date: 10/06/93  1:53p
Subj: PROGRAMMERS CD                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I am looking for a C/C++ Programmer's CD for use on a BBS.  Can anyone
>recommend some good ones?

Source Code ($20) and C User's Group Library ($26).

                            Brice's Library
                    CD-ROM Price List 1 October 1993

                      5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
                         Indianapolis, IN 46220
                      Tue Thu  11 AM - 8 PM   EST
                      Wed Fri  11 AM - 6 PM   EST
                          (317) 726-1980 voice
                          (317) 726-1387 BBS

               All prices include any applicable Sales Tax
                       Free shipping to the U.S.A.


 * SLMR 2.1a * People of the Earth, Listen to the words of the Prophet!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5872
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/06/93  2:16p
Subj: ADULT CD ROM'S                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Is that good news or bad news?

I don't know, since I have no idea what you're talking about (please QUOTE in
the future)....


 * SLMR 2.1a * All Cats are NOT grey at night. Endless variety....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5873
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 10/06/93  3:06p
Subj: WHERE IS TIM?                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> I have found a source for NEC 25's

Internal or external?

> I have to check them out and find a way to daisy chain them

If internal, I may take one once you get it checked out, presuming your normal
low pricing. I don't care if you can get it to daisy chain - I have an external
case to stuff it into alreay....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Sexy women are nature's way of saying "Keep it up"!

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 5874
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/07/93  2:08p
Subj: Night Owl $25                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                  N i g h t   O w l   10.0
 ******************************************************************
 *********                                                *********
 ***********                                            ***********
 *********               $ 25.00 Each                     *********
 ***********                                            ***********
 *********                                                *********
 ***********           ------------------               ***********
 *********               1-800-638-5757                   *********
 ***********                                            ***********
 *********           We Will NOT be out Sold              *********
 ***********                                            ***********
 ******************************************************************
                  N i g h t   O w l   10.0

       ---->>>>>  BBS Ready - Has Files.bbs  <<<<<----

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5875
  To: CHARLES ALVIS                            Date: 10/08/93 12:00a
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Charles!

Recived the money today mail ran late but already packed and will mail first
thing in morning (Oct-8), thanks let me know when you get the package.

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5876
  To: RON AGUIAR                               Date: 10/07/93 11:57p
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Ron!

Recived the money today mail ran late but already packed and will mail first
thing in morning (Oct-8), thanks let me know when you get the package.

Pat

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From: BOB CENTERBAR                          Number: 5877
  To: TED KIDD                                 Date: 10/07/93  8:04p
Subj: CD's on a Novell Server                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 10-04-93 TED KIDD wrote to ALL... 
 
 TK> Does anyone know how to mount CD-Rom drives on a Novell file server 
 TK> (using
 TK> Novell Version 3.11). 
 
Couldn't get it to mount myself, but did map them off a terminal, works 
fine for the BBS.  Wastold that they could be mounted with the proper 
drivers from Novell. 
 
Later..Bob 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50  "486/66 Mhz ain't FAST enough..!!" 
* LAKOTA v1.0

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 5878
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 10/07/93  9:40p
Subj: recieved the disk today                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jim,
I received the disk in the mail today, 10/6 thanks.

                                  Mike Harris

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 5879
  To: CLINT SAVAGE                             Date: 10/06/93  5:30p
Subj: MS BK SHELF 1991?                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS>Sir; Are selling the Microsoft Book Shelf 1991 Version (probably #2?)
CS>I am interested in the 91 version. What are you asking?

   It is the 1991 edition and I would like $25 for it plus $2.90
for shipping. I think that is a pretty good price. The only reason
that I am selling it so cheap is that I have two of them. I love my
copy and find it to be most useful. If you would like to have it please
let me know here so that I can put it aside for you and send payment to
me at the address below. If not let me know that too.

   I have about a dozen CD's that I will be selling but haven't put the
ad together yet. Is there anything else that you are looking for.

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ 08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ I tried to drown my problems but they can swim!


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 5880
  To: LARRY ROBINSON                           Date: 10/06/93  5:34p
Subj: CD DISKS                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LR>IF ANYONE OUT THERE WANTS THEIR FLOPPIES TRANSFERED TO CD GIVE ME A
LR>CALL. I HAVE VERY REASONABLE RATES AND QUICK TURNAROUND.

   Please give me some idea of rates.

   I know it probably doesn't make sense but please include rates from 1
CD copy to 100. Also please send details on how we would make it happen.

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 5881
  To: ELDON WAKEFIELD                          Date: 10/06/93  5:37p
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EW>I have the following for sale asking 110.00 for all and will pay the shippin
EW> 11 Caddies

   Are these caddies US or American made?
   Do they have the standard metal slide or are they the semi-permanent
plastic ones in sleeves? I can buy 11 mail order for $45. Can you beat
that price by a real good margin for used caddies. Like maybe $25 for
the lot including shipping?
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From: DAVID FORD                             Number: 5882
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 10/06/93 11:14p
Subj: Re: Linux CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I found an ad in a Unix magazine and called them this morning.  They sell it
for 60 bucks.  The number to call is 1800-432-0556.  I can't wait for it to
show up.

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From: DAVID FORD                             Number: 5883
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/06/93 11:16p
Subj: WANTED: textures for rendering on CD    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I animate and render with 3dstudio and have been looking for new textures.  The
hard drives are full with targas I pick up from bbs's and scan but I want mass
storage tga's and gif's on cd rom but the ones in the 3d mags want 400 bucks
for it.  Anyhow, anybody have an idea or something they would like to
sell/trade.  thanx.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5884
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 10/07/93  1:45p
Subj: Precision Mapping                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FG>MS>FG>Mike, how much is this CD going for, between myself and my parents, we
FG>MS>FG>all travel alot, and this might be very very useful, let me
know..Frank

FG>MS>We have the latest version in stock at $77.

FG>Mike, I hate it when I loose track of a message thread, were we talking
FG>about Street Atlas 2 on this one, or another mapping product, and if so,

This price quote was for Precision Mapping.

FG>which one, and if it was something other than Street Atlas 2, which
FG>product would you recommend (IYHO).  I replied with an order for
FG>Street Atlas 2 for $95.00, but if this program works as well as,

Well, with the release of Street Atlas 2, I believe it is the *ultimate*
right now, at least in the "realistic" price range.  It seems to have
some aesthetic advantages over P.M., but the data for each should be
about the same vintage.  Bottom line:  spend a few extra bucks and get
the Cadillac.  You will appreciate Street Atlas 2 long after the sting
of paying a little more has worn off.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5885
  To: TED KIDD                                 Date: 10/07/93  1:45p
Subj: NEW CD TITLES                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TK>>MAC SHAREWARE * A great CD full of current Mac shareware for Mac only..$24

TK>Please tell me that this disc is IBM BBS ready!!??

Sorry Ted, readable on Apple System CD-ROM drives only.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5886
  To: HANK PETERSON                            Date: 10/07/93  1:45p
Subj: Replacement                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HP>      them on a variety of equipment.  I would love to buy the new
HP>      Hackers Chronicle but am worried it won't play on my Texel.

I don't think you need to worry, but if it doesn't read Hacker's,
consider having the drive looked at.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5887
  To: GEOFF REED                               Date: 10/07/93  1:45p
Subj: Brand New Cd-rom Titles                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GR><<***** On 09-30-93, Mike Shannon wrote to Frank Gresh: *****>>
GR>MS> TOTAL FANTASY * Newly released .GIF disc from Denmark

GR>  Mike, is this Disk any good?  what sort of Pics are on it?

Just sent one to Bob J.  Look for his review - he's a bit more objective
than I am on these adult CD's.  ALL the girls look good to me.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 5888
  To: DALLAS HINTON                            Date: 10/07/93  1:45p
Subj: FIDO                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dallas,

Heard from my local sysop today that you've been trying to reach me
by netmail.  Unfortunately, I don't have the mailer installed yet on my
own board, so I don't have netmail access.  I wasn't ignoring you, just
kind of blind right now when it comes to netmail.  If you want to
discuss rules, etc., please feel free to call me at 509-457-2892
during normal business hours.  I am open to whatever suggestions or
requirements you have for me.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: PAUL T.NELSON                          Number: 5889
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/08/93  8:33a
Subj: How to impress the Board?               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for your suggestions Bob.  I'm starting now to round up all my
friends who will be willing to bring in their systems for a Multimedia
Fest.  I have the Comptons ($79 at Costco! with $4.50 upgrade...) and am
lining up more.  I just wish the kids in my class could sit down at a
fast machine and explore the way my own kids at home can...  Maybe
letting the Board get their hands on some new machines will let get my
hands on their money!  <g>  Thanks again,  Paul T.Nelson


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From: STEAN SNYMAN                           Number: 5890
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/07/93  3:49p
Subj: info on CD's                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hello Mike!

Tuesday October 05 1993, Mike Shannon writes to Stean Snyman:

 MS> We have them both in stock, at $14 and $20, respectively.  Give a shout
 MS> if you're interested.  Can ship same day.

At last I got an reply :))..  Could you maby give a description on the VGA
Spectrum disk, and how much for Air shipping here to the good ol' Republic of
SA?...  Thanks..

You say Shout..  Maby it'll work better if I post the money first? (After all,
I'm overseas from ya! ) :-)))

CU
Stean

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 5891
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 10/08/93 11:17a
Subj: Queer                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Ismail!

Listen to me you camel-sucking sand monkey:

AT NO TIME WAS I AN EMPLOYEE OF GROUPWARE, FAGWARE, OR ANY OTHER COMPANY OWNED
OR OPERATED BY YOU!  You had better quit preaching your line about me being
your employee, and being fired by you.

For the record: the only involvement I had with you and/or GroupWare was when
we (you and I) decided to set up a dummy company called "CrossRoads Computers"
in order to reach more customers, because GroupWare's reputation was less than
reputable.  After I discovered you to be stealing profits, I (not you)
terminated our business relationship.  And all your threats ever since have
gone in one ear and out the other.  That bothers you, don't it?  It bothers you
that you can't push people around.  Get it through your head, asshole:  I am
not intimidated by you, nor will I be.  Why don't you buy a one way ticket back
to the sand you call home, and leave our fine country alone?  It's unethical
immigrants like you who give American businesses a bad name.

You want examples, you say?  OK... how about the time I referred Jerry Siligman
to you to purchase a computer system.  His floppy drive was defective.  You
IMMEDIATELY accused him of breaking it.  You refused to replace it.  You
wouldn't even honor your own damn warranty!

More, you say?  OK... several people I've referred to your store report to me
that when they go to you with system trouble, you consistently blame them for
"fucking it up" and refuse to stand behind your product.

Are your systems FCC certified?  I will be calling the Seattle FCC office
Monday to find out.  You can bet your ass that you've bit off more than you can
chew this time.

You're truly an asshole.  A slithering, sand-loving little asshole.

Have a good life...


... Turkey:  Where men are men, and the sheep are damn sore!

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From: CARL DELEO                             Number: 5892
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/06/93 12:00a
Subj: New CD Eagle Eye                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Forwarded from "CDROM"
 * Originally by Carl Deleo, 1:237/527
 * Originally to All
 * Originally dated 4 Aug 1993, 12:58

                     The Eagle Eye CD-ROM Disc Order Form
                            The Economic Solution

                       - All New Shareware Files 92 & 93
                       - Easy to use file access menu system
                       - Great for PC Users and for Sysops
                       - Over 600 Meg of Files in categories
                       - BBS Ready to connect
                       - Ready to run games + more
                       - Ready Gif file viewer + many Gifs
                       - One low price + dealer prices avail.
                           SYSOP SPECHAL $25.00
                              Dealer Pricing
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From: BOB LEAR                               Number: 5893
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/04/93 11:33p
Subj: OPINIONS                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>JD>>  What I was asking is that if I find  your CD-Rom does not live up to
LN>JD>> my expectation based the claims of yourself  and others (IE: anyone
LN>JD>> else who comments on the specific disk), that I be  allowed to send
LN>JD>> it back and request a refund.  Your asking people to buy  somthing
LN>JD>> sight unseen, telling the consumer that if you don't like it once you
LN>JD>>  see it, oh well.

LN>Do you still feel this way with the record industry--I can't count the CD's
LN>bought because I fell in love with a song, just to find the other 9 cuts
LN>lousy--OH well, is about where I shelve it--

LN>Do you loiter around the mag racks and read the mag cover to cover before bu
LN>it? I know what your saying, but give us publishers a little more credit the
LN>that......Buying CD's are a risk, and there is no way around that

Sometime, soon, if the CD industry is to grow to the level it should,
some form of better information, reviews, whatever, is going to have to
evolve.  Following this echo, I find a few good, deep reviews, and
occasional snippets of information.  There are a few occasional reviews
in print media.  All this covers about 10 per cent of what's out there
today.  All I know about the other 90 percent is the title and price in
a listing.  It's hard to think of shelling out 30 - 40 - 50 bux based on
a title and the minimal information on the case notes (or on the title
alone if you want the savings of buying here instead of in stores).

I don't think this is necessarily the responsibility of the authoring
company, the distributor, or the reseller, though it would help if they
would recognize the void and were willing to try to fill it.
There is a great void here, and a great opportunity for someone.
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 5894
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/09/93  2:27p
Subj: Inside tip                              Refer: 9307
Read: 01/03/94  3:42p                       Private: No 

-> Don't you love this echo for it's ability to get information out to a
-> range of users and publishers etc--Well, for all the closet publisher

And we appreciate your input :)

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 5895
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 10/09/93  2:46p
Subj: Queer                                   Refer: 9351
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Hello Ismail!

Dave, that's too much... Post one more message like that & you're out of
here.  EOT.

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 5896
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 10/09/93  2:48p
Subj: EOT                                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

DO NOT continue this thread with DR.

tim
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 5897
  To: JOHN RICKER                              Date: 10/08/93  7:39a
Subj: Buying Used CD's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>  |o|    Busty Babes 1.3

JR>What would ya like for this one ?

   $25
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5898
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 10/08/93  6:38a
Subj: ADULT CD ROM'S                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You had posted a message saying that you'd met Lee Noga at the BBS  convention
and that she WASN'T the lady on the cover of the Ecstasy CD.  My question "Is
this good news or bad news?" was meant as a joke. No big  deal.... 
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5899
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 10/07/93 12:23p
Subj: Re: where is Tim?                       Refer: NONE
Read: 10/10/93  1:49p                       Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Tim Helton to Terry Blount <=-
 TH> This weekend I was high in the Smokey Mountains - getting more
                        ^^^^
Oh, REALLY? (GD&R)

... Don't hit me, Mr. Moderator... I'll go back on topic... I swear!
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From: STEVE HANES                            Number: 5900
  To: PATRICK SHEN                             Date: 10/08/93  6:27a
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Patrick,

Give me the ordering info.

I want your 7th Guest.

Thanxxxxxxx


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From: TIGER MOSES                            Number: 5901
  To: VBALLNUT                                 Date: 10/08/93  8:40a
Subj: Re: CD on Network                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Its not a throughput goin ghtrough the netwrok, becuase the hard drives are
being processed just fine.  I think it either has to do with the buffering or
something.  My network is probabyl just too "old".  I can't belive I'd have to
spend $500 to get a real 3 machine network to access two CDroms, which would be
a minimum of $400, I could buy a cd-changer for 200 more! or just buy 4
mitsumi's for $800! (still cheaper).  Whats the cheapest way to go to a
network.  The OS is going ot cost more than the hardware! 

I can spell, I just type too fast for my fingers!
Actually, I think some fingers are faster than others.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5902
  To: RUSSELL NABER                            Date: 10/08/93 12:59p
Subj: FREQ-able files                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

01 BUSTY_R3.ZIP    5787 09-26-93 [0017] From: Bob Jackson
    CD-ROM Review by Bob Jackson - Busty Babes Vol. 1  Rel.3
02 DATABASE.ZIP    1192 09-26-93 [0010] From: Bob Jackson
    Courtesy of Bob Jackson - LOTUS 1-2-3 S/S (WK1) of GIF name
    cross-reference
03 D_DREAMS.ZIP    6259 09-28-93 [0009] From: Bob Jackson
    CD-ROM review by Bob Jackson - Digital Dreams
04 EROTIC_2.ZIP    6301 09-27-93 [0016] From: Bob Jackson
    CD-ROM review by Bob Jackson - Erotic Encounters 2
05 PGG1.ZIP        5971 09-27-93 [0012] From: Bob Jackson
    CD-ROM review by Bob Jackson - PGG1
06 PORK_1.ZIP      3830 09-28-93 [0010] From: Bob Jackson
    CD-ROM review by Bob Jackson - Pork-Ware 1
07 PORK_2.ZIP      3363 09-26-93 [0011] From: Bob Jackson
    CD-ROM review by Bob Jackson - Pork-Ware II
08 STARE.ZIP       5407 09-27-93 [0012] From: Bob Jackson
    CD-ROM review by Bob Jackson - STAREware
09 S_BEAUTY.ZIP    9211 09-27-93 [0019] From: Bob Jackson
    CD-ROM review by Bob Jackson - Southern Beauties
10 TA_MAXX.ZIP     3341 09-27-93 [0012] From: Bob Jackson

11 VIVID_1.ZIP     4402 09-27-93 [0013] From: Bob Jackson CD-ROM review
    by Bob Jackson - Girls of Vivid - Volume 1

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From: MARC LIMMANY                           Number: 5903
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/08/93  4:23p
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike...
I was wondering if you received my order.  I think I sent if off on
10/2/93.  It's been a while, and I was wondering where the cds where..

Thanks.

Marc Limmany
The Tech Source
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From: FRANK GRESH                            Number: 5904
  To: ANDY ACOMB                               Date: 10/09/93  3:31p
Subj: X-Rated CD-ROM Software                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AA>House of Dreams                                  $59.95

AA>All available on MAc and PC...

AA>                                            901-682-2022
AA>                                                           Andy

Andy, would you be willing to come down a little on this price, also,
what are the system requirements for this disk to run.

Frank
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5905
  To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                       Date: 10/07/93 11:43a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I can listen to the radio, and buy records for the songs, or musical groups I
>like.

CD-ROMs are similar - you can buy them for the types of programs they
carry, or even download COMPLETE file lists for many/most of them.

>And you usually spend around $20 for an audio CD.

Nope - I have not spent more than $4 for an audio CD in years - but I'll grant
that I AM a dealer in used CDs.

>I would like to know
>what it is I'm buying (a record store will often let you hear it in the
>store), and if I can't know that much, be able to return it or exchange it.

NO record store will allow you to return an item for refund after 30-90 days
JUST because you "don't like the music". In fact, very FEW of them will accept
that as a reason for an EXCHANGE the SAME day - IF any.

>And as I've already said, if I can't get better
>information on this, it's not a deal.

Then ask for more information, don't sit there DEMANDING "rights" that NOBODY
gives.

>the fact the he is unwilling to stand behind his work

I don't know of ANYONE that will give the sort of guarentee YOU were asking for
- in ANY field. There is a difference between standing behind your claims, and
being willing to let someone play with your product for a month at a time and
then have to take it back due to a difference in TASTE.

>I'm sick of having to defend my belief that if a seller is not
>willing to stand behind his  product, that a person should be concerned...

If they were unwilling to take a DEFECTIVE product back, it would be a matter
for concern. That they are unwilling to guarentee that a product matches YOUR
TASTE is not - THAT is a fact of human existance.


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 5906
  To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                       Date: 10/07/93  1:33p
Subj: OPINIONS                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Time-Life
>books runs info-commercaisl onlate night TV selling there hits of  the 70's,
>where I can play it for 10 days and decide if I like it, or send it back.

Time-Life also charges about TWICE as much as their collections are really
WORTH on the open market. NOT a reasonable comparison....


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From: PO-I LI                                Number: 5907
  To: ROB O'DELL                               Date: 10/06/93  7:13p
Subj: NEC Portable CD-ROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Rob O'Dell to All dated 10-05-93 ***
> I have a few NEC Intersect 36 PORTABLE CD-ROMs laying around.
> They are SCSI interface and come with power supply and manual.
> 
> $99.00 each.
> 
> Reply here or for best results netmail @ 1:2380/100.
> 
> Rob O'Dell
> 
> 
Hi, this is po-i Li. Your price seems nice. How about the access time and
tranfer rate of your cd-rom drive? My SCSiI card is Adaptec AHA-1520, is that
can fit your cd-rom drive? Thanks for clarification.


Li,po-i

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From: DAVID HUTTON                           Number: 5908
  To: ANTON THE PIMP                           Date: 10/09/93  7:20a
Subj: hacker CD's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Those two CD's that you have, are they pretty much alike or are they
different?  I was interested in buying them, but I don't want both if
they are pretty much the same.  Also can you give me a short review of
them, like total megs on each and the like.  Thanks.

                        David


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From: MARK GREENHAW                          Number: 5909
  To: JOHN RICKER                              Date: 10/08/93  1:03p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Review: Hacker Chr           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >Would it be possible for ya to tell me where i could find the above
 >mentioned CD ?

Hacker Chronicles can be ordered from Crocodile Computers at (205)477-6176 for
a cost of $29.00 +S&H.


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From: MARK GREENHAW                          Number: 5910
  To: CRAIG NYLUND                             Date: 10/08/93  1:54p
Subj: Re: meds-cd                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >Is there a cd that covers most pharmacy medications like a PDR?  If so,
 >where can I get it and  how much?

Prescription Drugs CD         $29.00+S&H       Available from Crocodile
                                               Computers at (205)477-6176

I do not know the content of this CD but the title suggests it may be what you
are looking for.

                                             Mark

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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 5911
  To: JARED MARTIN                             Date: 10/08/93 12:16a
Subj: Cool CD-ROM games                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JM>Hello.  I was just wondering if any of you knew of any other
JM>full motion cd games like 7th guest?  I've been looking at
JM>a game called BattleChess Enhanced...anyone ever heard or seen
JM>it?  Thanks...
 
  Well, I have heard of it, although I have never played it.  I know 
 that we (Computer Works BBS) sell it for $31.00.  Have you looked at 
 the game Chess Maniac 5 Billion in 1.  I don't believe it is a CD 
 game, but from what I have seen it looked pretty cool.  May want to 
 keep an eye out for it. 
                                                Mark

 
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! 
Online Credit Card Ordering Available! 
(205) 671-0092 - BBS 
(205) 793-4481 - Voice 
SysOp - Jim Lambert  CoSysOp - Mark Clardy
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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 5912
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/08/93 10:13a
Subj: Drive w/ROMs for sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

.

For sale:

Mitsumi LU-005S CD-ROM drive (only 1), like new, complete
with interface and updated driver software (I will also
include the OS/2 drivers if you wish).

This is the faster of the two Mitsumis currently available,
reads MULTI-SESSION photo CD's, and is fully MPC compliant.

I will include a THREE-DISC set of shareware, with a total
of over 20,000 programs.

Price: $210.00 (U.S.), and I'll pay the shipping.

In addition, if you would like Photo-CD software, I can add
the Tempra Access CD-ROM to the package for an additional $25.

FIRST COME, FIRST SERVED!

Reply in this echo, or by NetMail to 1:141/950.1, or

(voice) 203-746-1195 (M-F, 9-5)
        203-746-1727 (eves, weekends)


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From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                     Number: 5913
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/09/93  4:23p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN> JD>> And I would buy from you before I bought from him for that very
LN> JD>> reason.

LN> You would buy from 'Jim' before you buy from *HIM*--If the
LN> inference was towards myself, then let me be the first to
LN> notify you that I am a *HER*.

I apologize, I ment no disrespect.

LN> We agree on one thing, and that is to end the thread--You
And I have..  Can you please also?


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From: NATHANIEL BRITTS                       Number: 5914
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/08/93 10:13p
Subj: wanted cd's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for 1. San Diego Zoo
                 2. Manpower (adult)
                 3. Mammals-National Geo.
                 4. Any Font cd or Music cd
                 5. Grandma and Me

If anyone is willing to sell any of these at a reasonable price drop me a line
either on here or call me at 804-296-4776.  Am not willing to go over 25.00 on
any of the above. Hope to hear from you soon if you have any of these. And if
you don't have any of these for sale and would like to get rid of some unused
cd's drop me a line anyway.

                             Nat
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From: DON NELSON                             Number: 5915
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/09/93  2:58a
Subj: Dave Reed vs GroupWare                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC> IA> DAve Reed is also a former employee of GroupWare
DC> IA> who has been terminated due to his merit. I wish
DC> He told me some interesting things about Ismail <g>.

Do you know what has happened to Mr. Arslangiray?  I've tried his BBS on a
number of occasions, all it does is ring.  Has Mr. Arslangiray seems to have
disappeared.

Thanks for any info you may have,

.dn 
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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 5916
  To: BRAD PAYNTER                             Date: 10/08/93  7:23p
Subj: Re: bbabes for sale or tr               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Brad Paynter to All <=-

 BP> Hi there-
 BP> I've got a copy of Busty Babes, not to sure whether it's volume one or
 BP> not, but since there is no volume number on it, I have to assume it
 BP> is. I'd like to trade it for a good map disk or a shareware disk or
 BP> two. Of course I'll take dead presidents if that's all you've got.
 BP> Leave a note here and I'll get back to you.

I have the dead presidents if you want it.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5917
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/09/93  7:08a
Subj: Inside tip                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

VERY interesting, Lee! Once again, MANY thanks for passing the info along  to
us (yes, I love this echo). The unlicensed part seems to be the killer  instead
of the XXX part. Maybe finally the tortured soul with the  Louisville slugger
can get some rest and we can all move on to better  things. BTW: If my memory
recalls correctly, we should be seeing BB II  soon, right? 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 5918
  To: PAUL T.NELSON                            Date: 10/09/93  7:10a
Subj: How to impress the Board?               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Just a suggestion: If it's not too much trouble, take YOUR machine along  with
you and let them (the board) see the difference between what they  have and
what's available. Seeing is believing, they say. 
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5919
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/09/93  2:56a
Subj: NEW NIGHT OWL                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                A L L   N E W   N I G H T  O W L  10

* Over 5,100 NEW Files   * Over 647 Meg's    * No Dupes   * Virus Checked
* No Dupes To v9.0       * All Zipped Files  * New Viewer * and  More  !!
The  ALL NEW  "Night Owl 10 "  is here  and ready  for  delievery  !! All
programs on this cd were written or updated between Jan 1st and  Sept 1st
1993.  In fact, 100megs of the total files are from Sept 1993.In addition,
N.O has a mouse driven GUI interface for both DOS and Windows !!
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5920
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/09/93  2:56a
Subj: NEW MONSTER CD                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

         A L L   N E W   M O N S T E R   M E D I A  93  I I

* Over 5,000 NEW Files   * Over 665 Meg's    * No Dupes   * Virus Checked
* 128 pg  Manual         * All Zipped Files  * New Viewer * and More !!

The  ALL NEW  "Monster Media 93 II"  is here  and ready  for  delievery !!
All programs on this cd were written or updated between May 1st and August
31st 1993.  It offers  multi-line  discriptions  as  well  as support  for
several BBS formats to make installation a breeze !!

                           PRICE - $30.00

This is a MUST CD for any BBS system that wants to offer their users only
the best in shareware.  Note: Monster Media is Updated three times a year.

ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 5921
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/09/93  2:56a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00  Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare   - $379.00  NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $249.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $739.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1169.  -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms Bare Dr - $369.00  Texel Ext 245ms Bare  - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int 3021 Bare  Dr - $189.00  Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $389.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00  Mitsumi w/Sound Card  - $325.00 -PRPR
 Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50.  ALL ChestNuts CD's $12.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

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From: BENJAMIN SMITH                         Number: 5922
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 10/08/93  1:34a
Subj: Re: Which CD Rom?                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BO> We currently have a stock of NEC74 External units that are 280ms
 BO> drives and are SCSI based system. These are brand new and come with the
 BO> drive, caddy, power cord and manual. The price on these units are $389.
 
Thanx for your response Boris.  I am considering the NEC74.  How does it 
compare with the Mitsumi External?

Ben



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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 5923
  To: COREY BICCUM                             Date: 10/06/93  7:12a
Subj: Return to zork                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hey does anyone know if this game is out yet?  Saw a write up on it
-> and it looks incredible.  If anyone knows where I can get it or
-> when it comes out let me know please!!

  The Floppy disk version is already out, but the CD-ROM version has a
 projected release of around December.

                                Todd

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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 5924
  To: WAYNE HUNT                               Date: 10/06/93  7:14a
Subj: Cd-rom duplicates?                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hi,
->
->   I realize that this may be a bit off topic, but I really have
-> nowhere else to ask..  My quick question is this, is there a
-> Duplicate filefinder avaiable out there which can handle CD-ROMS?
-> correctly?  I have tried using several (DFL, Finddupe, etc.) PD
-> listers to no avail, because of the vast number of directories, they
-> either lock up or give bad information.  Any help would be greatly
-> appreciated.

    I use DFL here (version 3.30) and it performs without any problems.
  Thats checking a 600+ MB cd-rom, plus a 1.2 Gig hard drive.

                        Todd

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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 5925
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/07/93  1:43a
Subj: Will swap cd outfit for p               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@SUBJECT:Will Swap CD Outfit for Printer !                           N

   I have a project that I am working on, and it is due soon!  I am
  in desperate need of a HP DeskJet, can either be a DeskJet 500,
  DeskJet 500C or even a DeskJet 550C.  If it is either of the Color
  printers, I will make up the difference.
  I am looking to trade the following items for this printer,  Every
  thing is in excellent condition.  Not really wanting to swap it, but
  like I said....  I NEED a printer!


      o Chinon Internal CD-ROM (SCSI) - Audio & Photo CD Capable
        340ms Access, 160kb Transfer Rate, Only a couple months
        old. EXCELLENT condition.  FAST drive, fully MPC compatible.
      o 16 bit SCSI Controller will be included !!
      o Includes original Packaging and Documentation

Cd's that are included with the drive:
 ** Note: The following CD's were all purchased separatley of the
          drive.  Was not included as as Bundled set.

     o  Day of the Tenticle - (Just bought this one and it's GREAT)
        -This is actually the sequal to MANIAC MANSION (Which is also
         included on the disk).
        -FULL TALKING game. Over 4000 lines of recorded dialogue.
         Featuring the voice of Richard Sanders (Les Nessman of WKRP)
        -Hint Book Included
        -Also includes about 4 or 5 demos of upcoming LucasArts games.
         Including the only demo available for REBAL ASSAULT (10mb
         Demo!)

     o  Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis - Again, this is a FULL
         speach game.  Absolutely NO text to read!

     o  20th Century Video Almanac - An Encyclopedic Video Experience !
        -Relive the most earthshaking events of the 20th century:
        - Touch down on the moon with the Apollo Astronaunts
        - Relive Woodstock
        - Attend President Kennedy's Inauguration
        - Take a front row seat for the incredible 1916 World Series

     o  Blaster Mastery - Packed full of SoundBlaster Files
     o  Night Owl Version 7 - Top of the line Shareware Disk - BBS Ready
     o  Night Owl Version 8 - Top of the line Shareware Disk - BBS Ready
     o  Busty Babes III - Top Quality Adult CD - Includes the GIF
        program SHOWOFF (Just bought this one 2 weeks ago!)


        Respond ASAP here, or for faster reponse please
        send netmail to 1:3616/40 or call my BBS at
        (404) 531-0093, first person I hear from has a deal...

                               Todd

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From: CHET HART                              Number: 5926
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/08/93  8:22a
Subj: CD-ROM for trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   I'm willing to trade the adult CD-ROM "Legends of Porn
2" for a text or multimedia encyclopedia of 1991 vintage or
later. I'm not interested in any games.

   Legends of Porn 2 is composed of twenty multimedia
animations featuring such well known porn stars as Seka,
Marilyn Chambers, Ginger Lynn, Amber Lynn and more (a total
of 517 megabytes). The disk also contains a intro-demo to
other NEW MACHINE PUBLISHING disks.

Contact me via this echo or
   Chester W. Hart
   622 Meadowvale Drive
   Orlando, Florida   32825-6670
   407-275-5880 (6pm 'til 8pm, EST)

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5927
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/08/93  5:48p
Subj: Re:  CD-Rom Closeout                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <10-06-93 08:15> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> Are you saying that this latest assault is more state-sponsored than
BJ>> federal? I'm not in the biz but I'd like to understand what's going
BJ>> on.

Don't know. With the Oklahoma case the State and Feds are involved--We feel
that until that case is decided, the other States are not going to be as
aggressive--Once caselaw is established if Tony loses, the other States may use
that case to move forward into a direction they have ignored because of lack of
legal familiarity with the online enviro and CD-ROMS--

In the mean time, we feel the authorities are educating themselves in the CD
arena, and who knows what and when or *IF* they will use what they learned. At
this time, we can only speculate--Follow the Davis case in the CD-ROM echo, or
in the Boardwatch mag--That mag is a great source of legal info etc.

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: ROBERT STARK                           Number: 5928
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/08/93 10:28p
Subj: CD-ROM Drive For Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For Sale
Tandy CDR-1000 CD-Rom Drive.

Comes complete with:

Proprietary Controller (8-bit)
Device Drivers and MS-CD Extensions
All Cabling

Asking $300 or best offer (Installation Included if local)

If interested, leave a message here or contact me via Netmail at the address
below.

                                   Robert Stark

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From: FRANK GRESH                            Number: 5929
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/08/93  9:45p
Subj: Thanks                                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike, just got the order today for those two disks that I asked for,
thanks, they are great, and once again, superb service, didn't even have
to pick up the phone !!!!!!  Did you get my message about the Street
Atlas 2 ???? Thanks again for the quick service.

Frank

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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 5930
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/07/93  7:17p
Subj: PRE-ORDER OS/2BOX!                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 MS>             We are now taking pre-orders on the following title.
 MS>              - Cards are not processed until date of shipment -
 MS>             _______________________________    _________________
 MS>            |                               |  |                 |
 MS>            |      Title:  CD OS/2BOX       |  |   Price:  $29   |
 MS>            |_______________________________|  |_________________|
[stuff deleted]
 MS>      * 350+mb total
 MS>      * To begin shipping this month!
 MS>      * FREE shipping on all preorders

Shipping this month?  When I pre-ordered the disk I was told shipping the first
week of this month which ends in two days.  I've allready got all my users
hyped on this CD, they'll linch me if I don't deliver. :(



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From: DONNIE RAYNOR                          Number: 5931
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/07/93 11:30p
Subj: Mitsumi FOR SALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I have a Mitsumi internal CD-ROM drive for sale with interface, cables, 
software, and all docs. It is model LU005S. Specs: 350 msec acess time,
150kb transfer rate. Drive has less than two hours of run time on it. I 
am asking $165.00 and I will pay shipping. If interested leave me a 
message here or phone me 804-744-3480.

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 5932
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 10/08/93  7:30p
Subj: mag's                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Chris,
I belive you posted about the magizines subscriotions, do you know if Computer
Shopper is part of that list or not and how much?
Thanks.

                                 Mike Harris

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 5933
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/08/93  7:31p
Subj: audio cd's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Is it okay to advertise audio cd's here? I haven't seen the rules as of yet and
I have some audio cd's I'd like to unload cheap.

                                Mike Harris

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From: MARK CROSBIE                           Number: 5934
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/07/93 10:18p
Subj: SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD!                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->  STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (
->  VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc

Send me a catolog also...

BossMan's HideOut BBS
% Mark Crosbie
P.O. Box 326
London, Ohio 43140


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From: MARK CROSBIE                           Number: 5935
  To: KEVIN KING                               Date: 10/07/93 10:21p
Subj: CDROMS FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> a copy of RESALE93.ZIP. Kevin King, SysOp "My Favorite BBS" 916-381-2
-> Home of the Reseller's Quarterly" A Database designed to help Compute

 I would like to get a copy of this.

BossMan's HideOut BBS
% Mark Crosbie
P.O. Box 326
London, Ohio 43140


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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 5936
  To: ROB O'DELL                               Date: 10/08/93 10:21a
Subj: NEC PORTABLE CD-ROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If they are true scsi, Ill take 2... You can call me at (203) 771-7081 days,
630-3945 eve... Thanks.  Bob

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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 5937
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 10/08/93 10:29a
Subj: BBABES #1                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How about $30 shipped for the bbabes #1??
Was it you looking for a dealer for such cd's??? I might be interested. Can you
leave me more information. Thanks.!

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5938
  To: STEVE PESANT                             Date: 10/08/93 12:31p
Subj: Re: CAnadian People CD-ROM de           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SP> Is this the OEM or Full version with the Video...(I'm not interested) 
 SP> but I'm sure others may be...The price seems right!!! =8-)
 
It';s the version without the video.  We have in stock ready to go.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5939
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 10/08/93 12:33p
Subj: TIME ZONES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 VS>    The shoe fits more comfortably on this foot <g>. First of all,
 VS> I should thank you - that experience showed me that there was
 VS> a dire need for a Canadian supplier of CD-ROMs. That episode
 
No argument there.  Canada did need a local good source.

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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 5940
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 10/08/93  8:16p
Subj: Re: Asian Ladies For Trade              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mark, I have a friend willing to do that deal.  Asian Ladies for 7th Guest and
$15.  He has the full version of 7th guest, video, docs and all.  Reply, and
we'll deal.  Thanks,
Jason

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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 5941
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 10/08/93  8:31p
Subj: Re: Asian Ladies For Trade              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Oops, I guess I didn't make that too clear the last time.  Should have been
Asian Ladies + $15 for 7th Guest full version.  Sorry.... :)
Jason

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5942
  To: BILL DEERTZ                              Date: 10/08/93  9:44p
Subj: SCSI CDROM Jukebox wanted               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BD> I'm looking for a SCSI CD ROM jukebox.  Does such a 
 BD> drive exist?  If so,
 BD> what brands, prices, specs, ect. are available?

If your looking for the slower and less expensive unit, we have the Pioneer
DRM600A for (cash price) $689 bare and $769 with 8 bit controller kit.  There
is also the 604X but it is up around $1400 with controller.  Give us a call at
615-339-0235 if you would like to order one.  The 600A is 600ms access with
150kb transfer rates while the 604X is 300ms access with over 600 kb transfer
and Multimedia/Kodak complaint.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5943
  To: MIKE GRIFFIN                             Date: 10/08/93  9:54p
Subj: Same can be said about PCJ              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

205870 ns

Date: 03-22-93 (20:35)              Number: 205870 of 206144
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                Refer#: NONE
From: MIKE WAGNER                     Read: NO
Subj: CD-ROM ON ORDER               Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Conf: FORSALE (49)               Read Type: GENERAL

I would guess that someone died and left Fred Maxwell in charge of harassing
people on this conference. He jumped on me for leaving a message to someone
else about his (the other guy's) prices after the guy left me an unsolicited
ad.

FWIW, I have done business with Doug twice now, and he has been very timely in
his deliveries, and he even refunded some money on a cd that had lowered in
price after I had ordered it. Now I ask you, what more could you ask??? He is a
little hard to get ahold of sometimes, but he has ALWAYS returned all my calls,
usually the same day. I just wish that ALL the dealings on this net went as
well as the ones I've had with Doug.

Mike Wagner
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 5944
  To: VADE FORRESTER                           Date: 10/08/93 10:04p
Subj: WRONG SHIPMENT                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 VF> Doug, I screwed up. The cover of the CD said 1992, 
 VF> but after your message, I opened it up and lo and 
 VF> behold, the print on the CD itself said 1993.  
 VF> Sorry for my confusion, and thanks for your 
 VF> willingness to make the exchange.

No problem.  As you can see here with a customer or two, I make mistakes also
<g>.  Part of being human I would say.  I am always willing to do whatever it
takes within reason to take good care of all my customers.  Glad it was ok and
hope to hear from ya again.

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From: ADRIAN VERGOT                          Number: 5945
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/08/93  9:15p
Subj: Custom CD-ROM $75 !                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM? 
 
CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your proprietary DOS or Windows
files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and Affordable.
All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information
(600+ Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (other
formats considered on a case by case basis) and we will directly
transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any
ISO compliant CD-ROM drive (just about every one made today!)
 
- Confidentiality is assured
- $75 per CD-ROM (mention this add)
- additional copies only $50 each
- Turn around time is about 2 days
- BBS Sysops call for rates
- We accept money orders and cashiers checks
- Pesonal Check orders will be shipped when check clears bank
 
If interested, call (412) 942-4694 and ask for Adrian 
Auto Fax (412) 942-4694
 
CD ROM Creations
108 Shady Lane
McMurray, PA  15317
 
Enclose a signed copy of the following disclaimer with your order:
 
DUE TO THE BULK NATURE OF THIS SERVICE, CD-ROM CREATIONS (c) DOES
NOT AND CAN NOT CENSOR AND DETERMINE THE NATURE OF THE MATERIEL
THAT THE CUSTOMER IS PROVIDING.  IT IS THEREFORE THE SOLE
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER TO ENSURE THAT NO COPYRIGHT
VIOLATIONS EXIST IN PLACING THE DATA ONTO CD-ROM
                      Signed ______________________________
                                     Your Signature

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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 5946
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 10/07/93  7:10p
Subj: CD-ROM Catalog!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (03 Oct 93) Mark Clardy wrote to All...

 Hello Mark.  Please place me on your mailing list for
 all CD titles and hardware catalogs.  Thanks.

 Max Green
 399 Westmeade Dr.
 Gretna, La. 70056.

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From: PATRICK SHEN                           Number: 5947
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/08/93 12:42p
Subj: Cd-rom for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have following CD-ROMs for sale.  All CD-ROMs are in New Condition. Add $3
for UPS or Priority Mail shipping.

7th Guest by Virgin Games (2 CD set).  Smooth full motion video.  Best CD
ever made.                                    --------------  $42.00

Software Toolworks CD Deluxe Pack.  Includes ChessMaster 3000 MPC, Mavis
Beacon Teaches Typing MPC, U.S. Atlas MPC and World Atlas MPC.  Each has
own complete documents.                          --------------  $55.00

Software Toolworks CD Game Pack II.  10 games on one CD.  Each has its own
documents.                             --------------------  $25.00

LucasArts Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe.  Very good World War II Air
Combat Simulation game.  I'll include a mission/utilities disk as a free
bonus.                                      -------------------  $25.00

Wing Commander/Ultima VI.  Get 2 award winning games on one excellent CD
Space simulation and Adventure.  With all manuals and Registration card.
                                             ------------------  $27.00

Mixed-up Mother Goose MPC.  Sierra combines master storytelling with the
classic rhymes to create this children's adventure game.  Children learn
early reading skills and get introduced to the world of computers.
                                          ---------------------  $20.00

Deathstar Arcade Battles.  The most exciting arcade action and other games
of all time.                           ------------------  $15.00

American Business Phone Book 92 Edition.          -------------- $20.00

SelectWare System.  The Ultimate Software Demo System.   ------   $9.00

Amateur Models Adult CD.                      ------------------ $35.00

Hot Pix Volume 4 Adult CD.                      ---------------- $20.00

Storm III Adult CD.                              --------------- $20.00

If you are interested, please reply here to contact me at E-mail address
below.

Patrick Shen CompuServe: 72072,3612 Internet: pshen#simenv.com or
72072.3612@compuserve.com

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From: JERRY CORNELIUS                        Number: 5948
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/08/93 11:41p
Subj: Dishonest suggestions                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dave Reed (at 1:344/79) made the following insinuation without support:

DR>crooks in this industry (I shouldn't mention names like
DR>"GroupWare," but you get my drift).

I have ordered from GroupWare and had no trouble at all.

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From: SAMUEL MOORE                           Number: 5949
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/08/93  6:59p
Subj: NEW BBS Colorado Springs                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

There is a New BBS in town
Future Concepts 527-9587
We have just purchased a new Pioneer CD ROM JukeBox and are running
a total of 7 CD Roms.  We are Running Major BBS 6.2  with Major CD
We will have the Following CD's Online by  15 Oct 93.

1.  Night Owl 10 released 1 Oct 93
2.  Night Owl Gifs released 1 Oct 93
3.  Night Owl Games released 93
4.  Night Owl 9 released 93
5.  Windows 93  7000 windows files
6.  FAO Gold  Adult
7.  Busty Babes

We also will have online Games, Teleconference with Global commands
Forum Area a growing Hard Drive file Area.  also I have used Shareware
CD Roms for sale cheap call today  (527-9587)  
 
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 5950
  To: MARC LIMMANY                             Date: 10/11/93  6:08a
Subj: My order                                Refer: 9363
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Mike...
-> I was wondering if you received my order.  I think I sent if off on
-> 10/2/93.  It's been a while, and I was wondering where the cds where.
->
-> Thanks.
->
-> Marc Limmany
-> The Tech Source
-> 1:301/29

Marc, please don't post "one on one" messages like this.

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 5951
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 10/11/93  6:14a
Subj: Thanks                                  Refer: 9389
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Mike, just got the order today for those two disks that I asked for,
-> thanks, they are great, and once again, superb service, didn't even h
-> to pick up the phone !!!!!!  Did you get my message about the Street
-> Atlas 2 ???? Thanks again for the quick service.

Foul!

Please don't post "one on one" type messages...

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 5952
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 10/11/93  6:16a
Subj: audio cd's                              Refer: 9393
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Is it okay to advertise audio cd's here? I haven't seen the rules as

No.  There's already an echo for that purpose... It's called CD_ECHO.

tim
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From: JANET GREENLEE                         Number: 5953
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 10/08/93  7:54p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Catalog!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send one of your catalogs. Thanks in advance

The Apothecary BBS
P.O. Box 484
Rochester Il. 62563

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 5954
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/27/93  1:15p
Subj: Review of stareware                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>OK, tell you what I'll try to do. I can (with some effort) OCR them
BJ>back into electronic form.

To save you even this amount of trouble, Bob, I already have the majority of
them, collected into one ZIP file, not quite 60K long. If you want, I can drop
it to you in the snailmail on a 360K disk. I'll find you in the callbook. 73,
de K8YUW

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 5955
  To: JOHN ROMERO                              Date: 09/29/93 11:21a
Subj: What happen to my order?                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You recently complained to Vince Sorensen:

JR>      I ordered three cd's from your company 3 Weeks ago and still
JR>haven't recieved them.

I've ordered from Vince on more than one occasion.  All orders were handled
promptly, with one exception.  That one took just over three weeks from the
postmark, I can only guess it was lost somewhere in shipping, or the Customs
folks were playing with it.  It was still shrink-wrapped when it got here, so
they didn't open it nroute.

JR> I also have been trying to reach someone for some
JR>answers by Fax and through this conference but have not yet had any
JR>replies. All I would like is to have this problem handled in a
JR>profressional manner.

Vince will have to address this point for himself.  I myself usually call him
direct on his voice line, or via his BBS.  It wouldn't do either of us any good
to act up in the public eye, were that necessary.

JR> Now by the time I recieve them they will be out dated.

In only three or four weeks?  I find THAT hard to believe.  If true, they were
already out of date before they were pressed, I would suspect.  Gee, just
think!  The way they are made to last, they'll be out of date for several
centuries!

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 5956
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 10/02/93  5:37a
Subj: Industry changes                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <29 Sep 93  19:52:01>, Daniel Hagan (1:381/61) writes:
 >I'm not into publishing, but have read most of the stuff you have typed 
 >in here.  I doubt XXX stuff will ever be "out of circulation" or 
 >underground as your previous message indicated.  Publishers ought to be 
 >hammering their amendment rights... 
Pretty sad that the do-gooders seem to have everybody in the CD-ROM  industry
running scared right now, I don't get any less advertising for XXX  rated
Video tapes than I ever did. Why is it that the CD-ROM publishers are 
shutting down and the people producing movies aren't? To be quite honest I 
get a bigger thrill looking at a beautiful naked woman by herself (R or X) 
than I do with couples or threesomes or some of the kinkier stuff that was on 
some of the XXX CD's, but I don't like being told I can't get them (XXX) if I 
want them. Nobody has the right to tell me what I can and can't look at/own.
Oh well back off my soapbox, I am just real tired of seeing what direction 
this country is headed, everybody thinks they should be able to tell the 
other guy what is "right" for them. What ever happened to live and let live? 
 >A more accurate statement might be that everyone is about to get burned 
 >for scanning copyrighted movies and mags and will drop to the wayside for 
 >those activities.  Or that dealers aren't going to want to have to have 
 >proof of their customers age on all transactions performed electronically 
 >or by voice.
I hope that is all that is going to happen, but I am not convinced yet..They 
should be controlled, people should not get rich for stealing someone elses 
work, and minors shouldn't be able to purchase this kind of material. 
 >
 >--- GEcho 1.00
 > * Origin: Health Professions El Paso, TX  ZyXEL (915) 590-9798 
 >(1:381/61)
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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 5957
  To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                       Date: 10/02/93 10:58a
Subj: Adult cd price list                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a recent back-stabbing attack you directed at Ms Lee Noga, you said, among
other things:

JD>I have no doubt that you feel you are selling a quality product.

She has every right to feel that way.

JD>  What concerns me is
JD>that you are not  willing to stand behind your product.

By saying this you display your complete ignorance of her excellant
reputation, both here and in the business.  She is too much of a lady to tell
you what you needed to hear though, and that's why I'm butting in where I
wasn't invited.

[much sophistry deleted]

JD> what I'm  not sure is your taste and mine are the same.

I don't see how that could possibly be the case.  I know she'd be delighted to
have you buy any/all of her products.  I don't believe you'd be delighted to
"buy" them, and accord them the appreciation they deserve for the collections
they are.

I think most folks who know and respect her would agree with my tag line,
specifically made just for you.

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 5958
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/05/93  2:35p
Subj: Budget Cd's 4 sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        We have a total of 766 titles available from our distributer.  These
are a few that we've made available at budget prices to introduce ourselves.


CD-ROM DISC'S NEW:

Category Key:
         a = Adult                      mi = Misc.
         h = Hardware                   mu = Music
        bu = Business                   pr = Programming
        cl = Clip Art                   re = Resource
        ed = Educational                sh = Shareware
        en = Entertainment              tr = Travel
        li = Library                    ut = Utilities

Disclaimer:  We take every precaution NOT to sell adult rom disc's to anyone
under the age of twenty one!  For those that are above 21 we apologize, for
any inconvenience.  No C.O.D.'s on any adult title.  Please allow up to 2
weeks for delivery.

   
1001 Utilities                      sh          19.00
101 Sex Positions #1                 a          39.00
101 Sex Positions #2                 a          39.00
5.25" Disk Drive Cleaning Kits       h           7.00
Adult Palette                        a          32.00
After Dark Trilogy                   a          39.00
Amateur Model                        a          32.00
America's Premier Shareware         sh          19.00
American Business Phone Book        bu          19.00
American Girls (200 soft nudes)      a          33.00
Animation Festival                   a          32.00
Audio Cable Toshiba                  h           8.50
Bibles and Religion                 re           9.98
Business Assistant                  bu          19.00
Busting Out/vivid Digital            a          38.00
Busty Babes Volume 2 - Brand new!    a          33.00
CD Caddies                          mi           5.00
CD Jewel Cases                      mi           1.50
CD ROM Multi-Media Magazine         re           2.70
CICA Microsoft windows              sh          19.00
Cafe Flesh                           a          39.98
Clip Art Goliath                    cl           9.98
Clip Art Heaven                     cl          19.00
Complete Bookshop                   li           9.98
Complete Home & Office Legal Guide  cl           9.98
Computer Reference Library          cl           9.98
Cookbook Heaven                     re          19.00
Deathstar Arcade Battles            en           9.98
Debbie Does Dallas                   a          39.00
Deep Throat                          a          39.00
Dictionaries & Language             re           9.98
Digital Dreams                       a          31.00
Encyclopedia of Sound               mu           9.98
Exotic Girls                         a          30.00
Extreme Delight (adult CD)           a          32.00
Fontmaster I                        cl           9.98
Kama Sutra                           a          50.00
Kodak Photo CD Software             cl          19.00
Laser Printer Companion OEM         ut          19.00
Local Girls                          a          29.50
Lovely Ladies II                     a          38.00
MLT l68T Earphones                   h           4.00
Media Box CD Storage Cases           h          18.00
Mother of Clip Art                  cl          19.00
Mystic of the Orient                 a          49.00
New Machine CD Adult Sampler ROM     a           7.00
New Machine CD Adult Sampler ROM     a           7.00
New Wave Hookers Vol. 1              a          39.00
New Wave Hookers Vol. 2              a          39.00
Original Shareware l992             sh           9.98
Our Solar System                    re           9.98
PC Sig Games                        en          10.00
Phoenix 3.0                         sh           9.98
Photo Gallery by Steve Hicks         a          34.98
QRZ Ham Radio                       sh          19.00
Rimfire Pacific Video                a          39.00
Rom Material OEM Vision             cl          19.00
Seedy Movies                         a          39.00
Sennheiser Earphone Set              h           7.00
Shareware Heaven                    sh          19.00
Shareware Overload                  sh           9.98
Simtel 20                           pr          19.00
Smutware                             a          30.00
Software Vault II                   sh          19.00
Sound Sensations                    mu           9.98
Southern Beauties                    a          38.00
Sprite                              pr          19.00
Super CD II                         sh          19.00
Super Clipart                       cl           8.00
Surfs up!                            a          30.00
Swimwear 1993                        a          30.00
Technotools                         pr           9.98
The Complete Cookbook               re           9.98
To Many Typefonts                   cl           9.98
Traci, I Love You.                   a          39.00
Tropical Girls                       a          30.00
Windoware                           sh           9.98
Women of Venus                       a          28.00
World Traveller                     tr           9.98

        CD-ROM DISC'S (USED):
        VGA Spectrum            $20.00 or B/O
        Microshelf Bookshelf    $10.00 (SOLD)
        Hot Pix 3               $35.00 or B/O
        Storm II                $35.00 or B/O
        Battle Chess            $15.00 or B/O
        PC Gameroom             $15.00 or B/O
        The Wiz-Pak 6-pak       $15.00 or B/O
        So Much Shareware 2     $15.00 or B/O
        OtherWare 1             $25.00 or B/O
        Asian Ladies            $35.00 or B/O


        No reasonable offers refused!
        Shipping terms: Purchaser pays shipping! U.P.S., C.O.D., under 2 lbs
        Priority Mail.

        For further information contact:
                                 Joe Rinehart
                              5400 Lakewood Road
                           Ravenna, Ohio 44266-9565
        Voice: (216) 296-9831
        Voice/messages/fax: (216) 297-1332
        Toll-Free (in Ohio Only) 1-800-521-2881
        Data/fax (216) 296-4446 ZyXel 16.8 "The Blue Parrot RBBS"
        FidoNet: 1:157/479
        KesherNet: 18:711/176
        RBBSNet: 8:965/13
        WWIVNet: 2@2659
                       

... Written while sailing Lake Hodgson, 2 miles east of K.S.U.
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From: TED KIDD                               Number: 5959
  To: BOB CENTERBAR                            Date: 10/09/93 11:56a
Subj: CD's on a Novell Server                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BC> Couldn't get it to mount myself, but did map them off a terminal, 
BC> worksfine for the BBS.  Wastold that they could be mounted with the 
BC> properdrivers from Novell. 

Yeah... but that costs a bunch!  Novell version 3.12(?) is supposedly CD-Rom
friendly..... still a pretty penny for the upgrade.
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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 5960
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 10/10/93  7:47a
Subj: cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (09 Oct 93) Michael Harris wrote to all...

 MH> I have some cd's I'd like to sell they are:
 MH> 
 MH> Secret weapons of the LuftWaffe
 MH> four tours of duty on one cd
 MH> VGA sb support
 MH> $15.00

 Hello Michael.  I will buy the above CD and pay shipping.  Please
 call to confirm this sale.  (504)392-7059 weekend/nights, (504)
 464-3289.  Thanks.  Max

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From: MICHAEL GUIDRY                         Number: 5961
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 10/10/93 12:27p
Subj: Cd's For Sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 09 Oct 93, Michael Harris stated to All:

MH>I have some cd's I'd like to sell they are:  Secret weapons of the
MH>LuftWaffe four tours of duty on one cd VGA sb support $15.00  Loom
MH>Graphic adventure game mouse interacts on screen, vga and sb
MH>support $15.00  Secret of Monkey Island vga mouse and sb support
MH>$15.00  Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego Deluxe vga mouse and
MH>sb support $20.00  reply here please. if someone is interested
MH>I'll find out the exact cost of shipping.  Send routed net-mail if
MH>you like.                                    Mike Harris  ---  *
MH>Origin: Borg's Dominion Dover DE (1:2600/195)

Will take the SWOTL if it's got the docs.  Let me know how you want to
do the transaction.

Mike.  My real fido address is 1:396/1.4



... We are the most intelligent planet on earth - Dan Quayle
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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 5962
  To: HOWARD ONEIL                             Date: 10/03/93  9:34a
Subj: Cash & Trade Deal Despera               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HO>                    CASH & TRADE DEAL DESPERATELY WANTED
HO>                    ------------------------------------

HO>  I have a Seagate ST251 with a Western Digital, WD-1003SR-2 RLL controller
HO>make the drive a 65meg.  I was asking $80.00 for both, but would prefer maki
HO>a trade arrangement, for other hardware, perhaps a CDROM, VGA Monitor or 3/4
HO>Upgradable motherboard with at least 1 VL Bus slot, CACHE not necessary.

HO>  I have RLL'ed and MFM this drive without problems while using this and oth
HO>controllers, (this being a 16 bit format and can't forsee future problems).

HO>  The controller will address a SINGLE floppy drive of ANY type or PAIR of H
HO>-drives.  From day one however, it has refused to function with more than on
HO>floppy drive.  Perhaps due to the type or manner in which my cables were
HO>hooked up, I dont know!



HO>  If ANYONE is interested, in these as a pair, let me know and we can arrang
HO>a swap.   I have the original box that the Seagate drive came in, which has
HO>side pocket where controller was also shipped.  A NO D.O.A. and COMPATABILIT
HO>guarentee with ANY SINGLE floppy or pairs of HD drives applies with these an
HO>I will include a copy of Disk Manager with it.


HO>I'm presently using the drive, but can have it out in a day.

HO>Howard

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HO>(1:129/133)
I hate to tell ya this, but why would anyone in their right mind trade a
386 or 386 motherboard, vga, or cdrom for an old RLL or MFM adn low
capactiy drive.



                           No offense or hostility meant,
                                        Sam Figueroa


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 5963
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 10/03/93  9:54a
Subj: CD for sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JJ>I have a brand new "Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego"
JJ>on CD for sale.
JJ>20.00
JJ>will also consider trades
JJ>leave mail....

JJ>--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
JJ> * Origin: The Hog Trough!! (602)545-9130 ZyXEL U-1496E v.32bis (1:114/1)
 Jeff,
        I've been looking for this cd used for sometime and nobody seems
        to want to sell it or trade it! I have a cd called Nautilus CD,
        which has lots of multimedia clips and Video for Windows on it
        and I also have another cd called Wizards 6-Pak, it has lots of
        kids games on it! I might be able to make some sort of
        argreement with ya on the cd??

                BTW does the Carmen Sandiego CD require a real fast
                cdrom for I'm running a 150k/sec 700ms cd-rom!???????
                        On a 386dx/40 with a 345 meg hard drive!


                                        Sincerely interested,
                                           Sam Figueroa
                                           Sam's Software
                                           (615) 728-7383
        Give me a call if ya want!
    Ohh I also have The Secret of Monkey Island for trade also!


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 5964
  To: BOB DAMATO                               Date: 10/09/93  7:28a
Subj: Re: ASIAN LADIES FOR TRAD               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BD> I have southern beauties... My advice is they should have called it

I will trade you T & A 2 The Maxx for the adult disc.  It is the
new 1993 one from Profit Press.

Randy


... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: ELDON WAKEFIELD                        Number: 5965
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 10/09/93  3:51p
Subj: Re: CD'S                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry all the items were sold Thanks for asking. Eldon
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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 5966
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/09/93  5:54p
Subj: Comptons MM Encyclopedia                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have (1) of Comptons Multimedia Encyclopedia's for sale.  I opened it,
tried it out for about 10 minutes... thought it was great, but I will not
have a use for this fine CD in the near future.  But do need the money.
So $40 gets it.  I will include 2-day air if you pre-pay.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 5967
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/09/93  5:56p
Subj: Hobbes OS/2 Archive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have (1) of Hobbes OS/2 Archive CD's for sale.  This is not the new one
on the market, so I will let it go for $15, and will pay P&H if you pre-pay.
I do not have OS/2, so its doing me no good at all.  I might be willing to
trade also, for a decent CD... like clip-art would work pretty good for me.



Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: SERGIO MASCARENHAS                     Number: 5968
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/09/93  5:38a
Subj: My Order                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hi, Mike!

Did you receive my orders?  I didn't receive any feedback. :-(

Thanks

Sergio
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From: DWAYNE COFFELT                         Number: 5969
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/06/93  6:31p
Subj: Dou Have Computer Select                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike,

Do you carry the CD "Computer Select" or can you get it and if so how 
much ? (I figure it's kinda steep but I won't know if I don't ask 
right ?)

BTW - This is a reference disk that contains articles from many major 
computer magazines and periodicals, etc. - it comes with a decent search 
engine and will allow easy printing of full text of many articles. The 
articles are from mags like Computer Shopper, PC Magazine, LAN Times, 
etc., It also has info other than that on the articles.

___
 X RM 1.2 00799 X Originality is the art of concealing your source.

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 5970
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/09/93  5:43p
Subj: PIER 3 FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NEW PIER 3 CD-ROMS FOR SALE
$ 32.OO AND FREE SHIPPING
SEND CHECK OR MONEY ORDER TO:
STEVE GREENO
1275 E. PRINCE
TUCSON AZ. 85719
FAX # 1-602-292-0497
ALSO HAVE FREE CD-ROM CATALOG WITH OVER 200 TITLES.

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 5971
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/09/93  5:55p
Subj: CD-ROM'S FOR SALE                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FREE CD-ROM CATALOG---OVER 200 TITLES
FREE SHIPPING
WHOLESALE PRICES
LEAVE MESSAGE OR WRITE TO:
STEVE GREENO
2239 E. BROADWAY
TUCSON AZ. 85719
FAX # 1-602-292-0497

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 5972
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/09/93  5:57p
Subj: CD-ROM SPECIALS                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I HAVE THE FOLLOWING NEW CD-ROM'S FOR SALE
YOUR CHOICE ONLY $ 12.00 EACH
FREE SHIPPING IF YOU ORDER 5+
SHIPPING $5.00 IF YOU ORDER LESS THAN 5 CD-ROM'S
1.OS/2 ARCHIVES       2.SIMTEL 20           3.MPC WIZARD
4.GIFS GALORE         5.GARBO               6.CICA WINDOWS DISK
7.QRZ HAM RADIO       8.WORLD TRAVELER      9.WINDOWARE
10.TOO MANY TYPEFONTS 11.TECHNOTOOLS        12.PC-SIG WORLD OF WINDOWS
13.SOUND SENSATIONS   14.PHOENIX VER.3      15.SO MUCH SHAREWARE 2
16.OUR SOLAR SYSTEM   17.HAM RADIO          18.PC-SIG WORLD OF GAMES
19.ENCY. OF SOUND     20.DICT.& LANGUAGES   21.MOTHER OF ALL CLIPART
22.DESKTOP BOOKSHOP   23.CLIPART GOLIATH    24.BIBLES & RELIGION
25.ANECDOTES          26.VGA SPECTRUM       27.SELECTWARE
28.ORIGINAL SHAREWARE 29.GAME ARENA         30.FONT MASTER 1
31.JOKES & PRANKS     32.LEARNING ADVENTURE 33.CALIFORNIA COLLECTION
34.1001 UTILITIES     35.BUSINESS ASSISTANT
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OCTOBER SPECIAL --- BUY ALL 35 TITLES FOR JUST $350.00
SEND ORDERS TO:
STEVE GREENO
1275 E. PRINCE
TUCSON AZ. 85719
FAX # 1-602-292-0497

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From: ED NELSON                              Number: 5973
  To: BILL CODY                                Date: 10/08/93  8:56p
Subj: GUNS-FOR-ALL                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Recently, Bill, you noted that . . .

>Most people, like myself, simply don't want to find that we are 
>criminals for defending our own families and property, which is what 
>much of the gun control stuff would make us.
    Of course you don't want to be called criminal on such a basis, 
Bill.  Also, I imagine you might be reluctant if I engaged in some 
criminal activity but found a way to explain it was "in defense of my 
family and property."  Most of us are unhappy with the tangled mess of 
our laws -- but that tangle seems a natural product of our talent in 
finding escape hatches from more simple laws.  
    We're a society that values individuals' options.  Unfortunately, 
that ends up rewarding a successful search for loopholes.  Too bad.

>It is no secret that the police are unable to protect most citizens 
>most of the time, and that leaves some very big gaps in everyone's 
>personal security.  Some people are dumb enough to risk that for 
>themselves, . . . 
    To tell the truth, Bill, I think you're talking about The Social 
Contract.  Rousseau, in 1762, presented it as the =implicit= agreement 
by which we create a civilized society.  (Some aspects of a social 
contract had been at least implied since Plato, however.) If we are to 
constitute a civilised society, it seems to me something of that 
nature is essential.  The Arm-Yourself crowd goes back to Thomas Hobbs
and the idea that "the life of Man, in nature, is nasty, brutish, and 
short"!  Pretty blunt phrasing, that, No?  He described the pre-
civilized world as "a state of war of all against all."

>            but it becomes what many consider irresponsible when it 
>comes to making that decision for their families who are often unaware 
>of the dangers around them.  
    ...and I must say I simply won't accept that I must adopt Hobbs' 
pre-civilization concept as describing the world I -- and my family --
live in today.  Yes, I know there are horrors.  But I feel the data 
demonstrate, clearly, that having killing equipment handily available 
to more and more people is no kind of solution.  Indeed, the 
proliferation of this equipment seems to me more of the problem!
    Stocking either my neighborhood or my house or even my closet with 
such equipment doesn't, in my mind, qualify as acting responsibly!
    Furthermore, while the numerical bulk of the ARA membership is 
individuals, there's no question (at least in my mind!) that the power 
source, the professional management and organizing, the history, and 
huge amounts of the funding come from arms manufacturers.  To their 
stockholders' benefit, of course.
    But for commercial organizations to back this deadly abundance, 
and to foster it, and to excite fear to advance it -- I find that 
apalling.
    I anticipate, Bill, that many on your side of the discussion will 
declare me a traitor to "The Amurrican Way o' Life"!  As you'll 
expect, I don't agree with that.  On the other hand, I really don't 
believe that Gen. Custer exemplified that way of life.  Nor quite a 
number of our more recent "heroes," for that matter.

>Of course there is also the argument that a man is entitled to let 
>himself and his family out into the world, totally unprotected from 
>violent criminals, simply to make the point the HE is some sort of an 
>anti-gun advocate.  But a lot of folks don't believe he has the right 
>to make that choice for them and their families.
    Do you suggest here, Bill, that I've chosen to expose my wife and 
daughter to the horrors of the world's slobbering murders/rapists (all 
armed!) as a device by which =I= can make a polkitical point?
    It's quite possible to interpret your concluding paragraph as a 
thinly veiled sneer, Bill.  Generally I got the sense that you were 
above such childishness, even if we disagree.  I'll assume I was 
right.
    Thanks for your interest.  Stay safe.        --ed nelson







































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From: DAVE BAKKER                            Number: 5974
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 10/07/93 10:38p
Subj: Disk                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris, just wondering when I can expect my disk, Mayo Clinic, I talked to
you on the phone almost two weeks ago (Sept 27). I sent a Money order with
my request.  You said if I air mail it to you, you would get it in two
days and it would take 2 days to send it.

Just wondering where it is, as I'm starting to worry.

Dave Bakker,  (St.Catharines, Ontario, Canada)


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5975
  To: BOB LEAR                                 Date: 10/09/93 12:12p
Subj: Re: OPINIONS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <10-04-93 23:33> Bob Lear wrote:

BL>> would recognize the void and were willing to try to fill it.
BL>> There is a great void here, and a great opportunity for someone.

Got the solution ! Gonna see if I can make it work, this will solve the
industry problems <trust me>. More later.....

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 5976
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/09/93 12:19p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD ROM'S                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Brice Fleckenstein <10-08-93 06:38> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> You had posted a message saying that you'd met Lee Noga at the BBS
BJ>> convention and that she WASN'T the lady on the cover of the Ecstasy
BJ>> CD.  My question "Is this good news or bad news?" was meant as a
BJ>> joke. No big  deal....

Bad news :)--Wore a 'Black' cowboy hat to signify my acceptance of
resposibility for providing sysops past collections (the industry standard
then) that now are getting folks in trouble--Next year, I wear the 'White' hat,
as the sysops chosen solution.

Nothing special about me--T-shirts and blue jeans, and bags under my eyes
trying to manage this company and all the opportunities. Let me bust your
bubble, a sex symbol I am not :) But I *DO* fit into one of the top 3 male
fantasies......for real. Think MENSA, and figure it out :)))))

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: PHILIP MILLER                          Number: 5977
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/06/93 10:12p
Subj: Corel Draw 3.0                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
        Is there anyone who has just recently upgraded to Corel Draw 4.0 and
willing to part with their Corel Draw 3.0 CDROM? 

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 5978
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/09/93 10:34p
Subj: cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have some cd's I'd like to sell they are:

Secret weapons of the LuftWaffe
four tours of duty on one cd
VGA sb support
$15.00

Loom
Graphic adventure game
mouse interacts on screen, vga and sb support
$15.00

Secret of Monkey Island
vga mouse and sb support
$15.00

Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego Deluxe
vga mouse and sb support
$20.00

reply here please. if someone is interested I'll find out the exact cost of
shipping.

Send routed net-mail if you like.

                                  Mike Harris

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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 5979
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/08/93 11:43p
Subj: CLIPART CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can someone reccommend a GODD Clipart CD. I know there are a bynch of them
out there but understand some are not so great. Thanks in advance.

Ron


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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 5980
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 10/08/93 11:46p
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Jim,

Got the CD today as scheduled. Thanks for the fast service! Can you tell
me which one of the Clipart CD's you carry is best? I'd like one packed
full with good file descriptions or maybe a viewer.

Thanks

Ron




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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 5981
  To: ADRIAN SALAS                             Date: 10/08/93 11:52p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR OCTOBER 9 1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AS>************************ CLIPART **********************************
AS>
AS>Clip Art Galore........... 25.00    Clip Art Goliath......... 25.00
AS>Corel ArtShow............. 79.00    Font Fun House........... 39.00
AS>Lovely Ladies 2........... 39.00    Media Clips Business..... 29.00
AS>Media Clips Island........ 29.00    Media Clips Jets......... 29.00
AS>Media Clips Majestic...... 29.00    Media Clisp Money........ 29.00
AS>Media Clips Wild.......... 29.00    Media Clips World........ 29.00
AS>Mother Earth 2............ 29.00
AS>SoMuch Screenware......... 35.00
AS>Electronic Library of Art  69.50

Adrain,

Which one of these are REALLY good?? Do any have programs on them,
prefereably windows based, that allows you to view each file to see if you
like it?

    WinQwk 2.0 a#435


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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 5982
  To: ANTON THE PIMP                           Date: 10/08/93  8:30p
Subj: HACKER CD'S                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can you give me more information on the ones that you DO have??? Sounds
interesting.  i.e. whats on it, where I can buy it etc.........

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 5983
  To: BOB MASENGILL                            Date: 10/09/93 10:03p
Subj: CD Player                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Bob!

The money is in the mail! Let me know when you get it, or when you mail it
off, thanks! when you send it please spell out Ninth as Texan's can't read zip
codes and it will go some where eles!

Pat

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5984
  To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                       Date: 10/08/93  7:46p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JD>And I would buy from you before I bought from him for that very reason. 
 
Thanks, but I think you may be taking Lee all wrong.  "She" isn't so 
bad! <G> 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5985
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/08/93  8:36p
Subj: CD-Rom Closeout                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >You need to get the proper advice for your State, and make your own 
  >decisions, just like we did. With cable, satellite, video and mens 
  >mags, how could T&A on a different media be so horrible ? There are 
  >bigger fish to catch then chasing T&A folks--Again, my opinion only. 
  >Consult with a first amendment attorney, before you shutdown a 
  >prosperous side of your biz....it's worth the money !! 
 
That's good advice, Lee.  I appreciate it!  I am out of the X business 
for good.  T&A is the most I will do in the future.  I really didn't 
understand the market very well before I heard of the interest the law 
is taking in this.  I will carry the titles you produce since I already 
know you produce only the best quality!  Btw, could you send me some 
dealer info for your titles?  I'd sure appreciate it. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
Rt 3 Box 794-B 
Ashford, AL 36312 
(205) 793-4481 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5986
  To: TIGER MOSES                              Date: 10/08/93  9:32p
Subj: Roms                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TM>I left message via a SPIT bbs, I use bizzare Powerboard (for now...)Will 
  >probably get EZ and try it out and see how it does with 2 ROMs. 
 
Well, good luck with it.  Let me know if you need any help, or need a 
fresh CD-Rom catalog. <G>  Take care. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5987
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/08/93  9:43p
Subj: Lowest CD-Rom Prices Yet!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have been very busy working on our new catalog with the most titles 
and lowest prices yet.  This price list can be downloaded from the 
Computer Works BBS on your first call at 14.4 kbps.  Here is a small 
sampling of our regular prices: 
 
Big Sky Rom             $26             Night Owl 9             $24 
CICA Windows            $14             Hacker Chronicles       $25 
Monster Media #1 1993   $30             Night Owl Graphics      $29 
PC Sig 12               $24             Phoenix Rom 4.0         $23 
Shareware Explorer Set  $53             So Much Shareware 3     $26 
Software Vault 2        $23             Software Vault Gold     $27 
Night Owl 10            $35             Pier 3                  $35 
 
Compare our prices to anyone and you will see that we are a serious 
competitor in the CD-Rom market.  We now sell over 600 titles in many 
different categories for the largest selection available.  If you see a 
lower price on any non-closeout title, bring it to us and we will beat 
it!  Download CATALOG1.ZIP for the list sorted by titles or CATALOG2.ZIP 
for the list sorted by category. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders 24 Hours/Day 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5988
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 10/09/93  6:06p
Subj: Tax                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF>              All prices include any applicable Sales Tax 
 
Hello Brice.  You may want to reconsider the above wording.  I know 
where I am, it is not legal to do it that way, even though it makes 
sense.  They claim that they are losing money since the tax base is a 
smaller amount when you take it out of the standard price. 
 
Just something to think about.  Hope you don't mind. :) 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                     Number: 5989
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 10/10/93  5:47p
Subj: Adult cd price list                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JM> In a recent back-stabbing attack you directed at Ms Lee
JM> Noga, you said, among other things:

Back stabbing?  Get a grip.

JM> JD>  What concerns me is
JM> JD>that you are not  willing to stand behind your product.

JM> By saying this you display your complete ignorance of her
JM> excellant reputation, both here and in the business.  She is

Look, I don't mean to be rude, but it appears you do.  I was talking with her
about the lack of a quality assurance warranty.  I would have no problem with
exchange with her, but I really am sick of this whole damn thing.  I do not
feel I was asking too much here considering the product (not her reputation)
was in question.

JM> She is
JM> too much of a lady to tell you what you needed to hear
And you have no idea either.  Look, I don't know who you are, nor do I really
care at this point.  I don't think I was asking too much, she thinks I was,
and I will therefore not buy disks from her..  But I don't see why what I buy
or do not buy from her should make one bit of difference to you.  You like her
stuff so much, you buy it, and leave me out of it.  I am sick of having to
defend my desire as the consumer to be able to be assured of the quality in
the marketplace that I am asking for.
JM> though, and that's why I'm butting in where I wasn't
JM> invited.
The first truth I've read from you..  Nor you can butt out just as easily.  I
am sick and tired oif having to explain my self to worthless people like you
who just don't get it.

Have a nice Day...


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From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                     Number: 5990
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 10/10/93  5:48p
Subj: Adult cd price list                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JM> I think most folks who know and respect her would agree with
JM> my tag line, specifically made just for you.

JM>  * Origin: HelpNet For the Impaired - (216)-356-1872

And I think the origin says the most of you and your system..  Impaired.


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From: FRANK GRESH                            Number: 5991
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/10/93  8:23a
Subj: Precision Mapping                       Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MS>FG>which one, and if it was something other than Street Atlas 2, which
MS>FG>product would you recommend (IYHO).  I replied with an order for
MS>FG>Street Atlas 2 for $95.00, but if this program works as well as,

MS>Well, with the release of Street Atlas 2, I believe it is the *ultimate*
MS>right now, at least in the "realistic" price range.  It seems to have
MS>some aesthetic advantages over P.M., but the data for each should be
MS>about the same vintage.  Bottom line:  spend a few extra bucks and get
MS>the Cadillac.  You will appreciate Street Atlas 2 long after the sting
MS>of paying a little more has worn off.

MS>Later,
MS>.\\ike

OK, Street Atlas 2 it is, If you could send it this was por favor.

Frank
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From: MEINDERT VAN DER VEER                  Number: 5992
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/07/93 11:16p
Subj: Re: PRE-ORDER OS/2BOX!                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

In your great wisdom you wrote the following to All:

Hi Mike,
I faxed an order. Was it received?
Cheerio
Meindert

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From: KURTIS KOLE                            Number: 5993
  To: BRAD PAYNTER                             Date: 10/09/93  9:42a
Subj: BBabes For Sale or trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hi there-
-> I've got a copy of Busty Babes, not to sure whether it's volume one o
-> since there is no volume number on it, I have to assume it is. I'd li
-> trade it for a good map disk or a shareware disk or two. Of course I'
-> dead presidents if that's all you've got.
-> Leave a note here and I'll get back to you.
->
-> Peace - Brad
->
->
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Hi,
    I have The Software Toolworks CD Deluxe Pack with Mavis Beacon
Teaches Typing, Chessmaster 3000, U.S. Atlas, World Atlas on it that I
would trade you. Leave email if interested...

                                                      Kurt


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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 5994
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/10/93 11:42a
Subj: Night Owl v10                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   NIGHT OWL SHAREWARE CD VERSION 10

                           Price:   $39

    Percent 1993 files................................... 100%
    Percent files dated Jan-Jun '93......................  34%
    Percent files dated Jul-Sep '93 (age 3 mo. or less)..  66%  !!!!!
    Percent dupes with Night Owl 9.......................   0%
    Percent internal dupes on CD.........................   0%

           Total Meg: 647     Total Files: 5,139

Dates reported reflect actual file dates (.EXE, .COM, .OVL, etc.), not ZIP
dates.  Night Owl 10 contains the NEWEST and MOST CURRENT files available on
any CD, BAR NONE!  In fact, nearly 100 Meg. of the total files are from
Sept. '93!  The Night Owl v9/v10 combo ($59) provides 1.3 Gigabytes of
unduplicated files from 1993!

  ** Games ** Communications ** Utilities ** Windows 3.1 ** OS/2 **
  ** Graphics ** GIFs ** Demos ** Data Base ** Modem ** Video **
  ** DV/QEMM ** Menus/Shells ** Compression ** Virus ** Spreadsheet **
  ** Network/LAN ** Offline Mail ** Fonts ** Word Processing ** DOS **
  ** BASIC ** PASCAL ** Business/Finacne ** Unix/Linux ** MORE!!

Night Owl's Publisher and TCM Computing have again joined forces to bring
you the very *best* Shareware CD available.  Our last two joint-efforts
(NOPV9 and Graphics v1) have received rave reviews from both our customers
and the CD-ROM industry (see the Sep/Oct 1993 issue of "CD-ROM Reporter").
Now, WE'VE DONE IT AGAIN!

As with all Night Owl CDs, v10 is BBS ready (PCBoard DIR and FILES.BBS).
As the Night Owl Support BBS, TCM has conversion programs available to
generate the file directories for most BBS s/w.  PLUS, the state-of-the-art
NIGHT.EXE retreival engine has had even more features adder for v10!!
This includes a mouse-driven interface for both DOS and WINDOWS!
File DIRs for v10 are available to d/l from TCM BBS as NIGHTV10.ZIP.

OTHER CDs AND COMBOs____________________________________________________
    Night Owl v9 (670 Meg. all '93 Shareware).................. $29
    Night Owl Graphics 1 (650 Meg. GIF,JPG,PCX,Animation,etc)...$29
    Night Owl v9 & v10..........................................$59
    Night Owl Graphics 1 & v10..................................$59
    Night Owl Graphics 1, v9 & v10..............................$79
    Night Owl Graphics 1, v8, v9, & v10.........................$99

You may place VISA/MC orders while online at TCM by typing ORDER at
the Main Menu prompt.  (If you are a prior TCM Customer, you should use the
"Previous Customer" Menu selection in order to receive your discount).
Checks or Money Order should be sent to the address listed below.

TCM Computing accepts Visa, MasterCard, Money Orders and Check.  C.O.D.
shipments are also welcome ($4 extra).  Call TCM for all the information!

        => TCM BBS is the Official Night Owl Support Board <=

 => TCM is an authorized N.O. Distributor.  Dealers call for pricing. <=

 TCM Computing                             (703) 439-8032
 Rt. 2 Box 130                             (703) 439-8237 Fax
 Midland, Va.  22728                       (703) 439-3060 BBS
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From: KEITH SATURN                           Number: 5995
  To: CHRISTINE UNDERWOOD                      Date: 10/09/93 12:17a
Subj: Genealogy CDs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Christine Underwood to All <=-

 CU> Does anyone know of a company that puts out genealogy related CDs?

 CU> Thanks

 CU> Chris

I recently purchased ProPhone national telephone directory...  I have found 
it somewhat helpful, but I have encounter SEVERAL listings in it that claim 
to be from the '92 phone books that are actually as old as the '89-'90
editions.  

My original intended use was to get updated address and phone info for my own
databases.  So far I have been useing it to help friends of mine locate others
who have the same surname...

Perhaps there may be somebody here who could help you obtain a copy, 
as dissatisfied as I am with the accuracy of the dates, I plan on useing it 
some more...

                        Keith Saturn.



... DINNER NOT FOUND (A)bort (R)etry (P)izza
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 5996
  To: SERGIO MASCARENHAS                       Date: 10/12/93  5:44a
Subj: My Order                                Refer: 9428
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Hi, Mike!
->
-> Did you receive my orders?  I didn't receive any feedback. :-(

Do not use this echo to conduct "one on one" business.

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 5997
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 10/12/93  5:50a
Subj: CD Player                               Refer: 9443
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Hello Bob!
->
-> The money is in the mail! Let me know when you get it, or when you ma
-> off, thanks! when you send it please spell out Ninth as Texan's can't
-> codes and it will go some where eles!

Pat, don't use this echo to conduct "one on one" business with your
customers.  Messages must "benefit everybody".

tim
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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 5998
  To: BOB DAMATO                               Date: 10/10/93  3:18p
Subj: ASIAN LADIES FOR TRADE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bob Damato beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

BD>I have southern beauties... My advice is they should have called it so
BD>barnyards... I wouldnt make that one high on your list!

Asian Ladies isn't a beauty pagent either. Most are just so-so and about
35% of the girls aren't even Asian!

Ron


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From: BOB CENTERBAR                          Number: 5999
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/09/93  8:27a
Subj: Giffy Gold CD for Sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Selling Giffy Gold (Adult CD) for $30.00 plus shipping, prepaid. 
 
This is one of the few adult CDs that can be legally used on a BBS 
when in relates to copywrite laws. 
 
If you enjoy the "girl next door" type images then this disk is for 
you. It's made up of amatuer poses of lovely gals from San Diego area 
and even has a few "G" rated images.  Most images would be considered

"R" rated but there are some I'd consider "X" rated. 
 
Leave a message, netmail or call (817)699-6525 after 5pm (CST) 
weekdays until about 10pm or just about anytime weekends. 
 
Thanks....Bob 
 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50  "Turn your 386 into an XT, use Windows!" 
* LAKOTA v1.1

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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 6000
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/10/93  4:30p
Subj: Macintosh Titles                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   To all vendors, (or others also):

   I am looking for Arthur's Teacher Trouble, and Just Grandma and Me on
Cdrom for Macintosh. Please make me an offer I can't refuse on these
two. I was quoted a price of $18.00 on the ATT disk (over the phone from
a certain nameless company), but, when it arrived, the bill was for
$49.00 --- quite a difference!
   Why not get the prices on Mac Cdroms more in line with those for the
IBM?  Any answers out there as to why the HUGE price differences?
   Thanks!


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From: DAVE WILGA                             Number: 6001
  To: COREY BICCUM                             Date: 10/10/93 10:32p
Subj: Cdrom cable                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BD> ...I called Media Vision, (the pro audio
BD> spectrum uses same cable) They didnt sell it either.  But if you
BD> go to a show, you can get them there. They are $4, but know what
BD> kind of connector you need at each end, as there are a couple
BD> different types.  But it will work.  I beleive one end has 4
BD> wires, and the othe has 5!!  You will find it at a show
BD> though.... good luck.

Look REAL closely at the Sound card and CD-ROM.  I recently was connecting
a PAS-16 to a Toshiba 3401 and found that although each had 4-5 pin
connectors, neither one was USING all of them.  If you hold the card up to
a strong light you will probably see that 2-4 pins are soldered together
making the necessary cable a 3 wire unit.  As for myself, I used a piece of
2wire (shielded) Radio Shack cable soldered to a old 3pin plug.

If you use this method try for a twisted pair cable, straight cable will
work with little or no loss, but a twisted cable eliminates possible
crosstalk between the lines.  This is probably inconsequential in a 12" run
but you might as well pay the extra .10 cents

Good luck, hope this helps.


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6002
  To: TED KIDD                                 Date: 10/10/93  9:34a
Subj: CD's on a Novell Servere                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TK> Does anyone know how to mount CD-Rom drives on a 
 TK> Novell file server (using Novell Version 3.11).
 TK> Please list any available info you may have (products and prices).
 TK> Thanks
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You need one of the software packages like SCSI Express.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6003
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/10/93  9:41a
Subj: Re: Brand New Cd-rom Titles             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GR>> MS> TOTAL FANTASY * Newly released .GIF disc from Denmark

GR>>   Mike, is this Disk any good?  what sort of Pics are on it?

 LN> If this is the one imported in from Europe as a title vs having been 
 LN> published in Denmark--The disc is a dupe of the 
 LN> best areas of other existing CD's so I hear--Forget 
 LN> the name off hand, but one came in from Europe 
 
I glanced at it and it looks just about the same as one of John O'Connor's
titles....forgot the name....

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6004
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 10/10/93  9:47a
Subj: Queer                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DR> Hello Ismail!

Glad to see your defending yourself.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6005
  To: DON NELSON                               Date: 10/10/93  5:02p
Subj: Dave Reed vs GroupWare                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DN> Do you know what has happened to Mr. Arslangiray?  
 DN> I've tried his BBS on a number of occasions, all 
 DN> it does is ring.  Has Mr. Arslangiray seems to 
 DN> have disappeared.

Did you try his voice?  I've seen some folks buying things lately so he ought
to be there....

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6006
  To: NATHANIEL BRITTS                         Date: 10/10/93  5:15p
Subj: wanted cd's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 NB> I am looking for 1. San Diego Zoo
 NB>                  2. Manpower (adult)
 NB>                  3. Mammals-National Geo.
 NB>                  4. Any Font cd or Music cd
 NB>                  5. Grandma and Me

 NB> If anyone is willing to sell any of these at a 
 NB> reasonable price drop me a line
 NB> either on here or call me at 804-296-4776.  Am not 
 
I will sell you all 5 titles with Too Many Typefonts for $125 plus $5 shipping.
 Call 615-339-0235 to order.  Mention to the ordertaker I made you this offer
in the Fido CD for sale echo.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6007
  To: JOHN RICKER                              Date: 10/10/93  5:20p
Subj: hacker chronicles                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We have the Hacker Chronicles in stock for $25.95 plus shipping.  Call
615-339-0235 to order.  No surcharges for credit card usage.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6008
  To: CRAIG NYLUND                             Date: 10/10/93  5:21p
Subj: meds-cd                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CN> Is there a cd that covers most pharmacy medications 
 CN> like a PDR?  If so, where
 CN> can I get it and  how much? 
 CN> ---
 
The full blown PDR is about $800.  Family Doctor covers about 1600 prescription
drugs.  We sell it for $22.95 plus shipping.  There is also the Pharmicists
Guide to drugs but it only covers 200 of them.  There is also a Compton's title
out call The Pill Book which I don't have a description on yet that goes for
$34.95.  Call 615-339-0235 to discuss or 800-547-7817 when ready to order.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6009
  To: PHILIP POLSTRA                           Date: 10/10/93  5:24p
Subj: PRE-ORDER OS/2BOX!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PP> Shipping this month?  When I pre-ordered the disk I 
 PP> was told shipping the first week of this month 
 PP> which ends in two days.  I've allready got all my 
 PP> users hyped on this CD, they'll linch me if I don't 
 PP> deliver. :(

CDROM makers always seem to have trouble meeting their proposed shipping dates
due to a variety of reasons often beyond their control.  It is never safe to
promise a date on a new CD.  They can usually only come close.

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From: ROBIN HARDISON                         Number: 6010
  To: HOWARD ONEIL                             Date: 10/10/93  3:17p
Subj: drive                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> Can you believe SAM FIGUEROA talked about Cash & Trade Deal Despera 

 HO>  I have a Seagate ST251 with a Western Digital, WD-1003SR-2 RLL controller
 HO>make the drive a 65meg.  I was asking $80.00 for both, but would prefer
maki

I was just wanted to ask a question.  You mean hooking up a RLL controller to
this 40 meg. MFM drive, it will make a 65 meg. drive?  Will any RLL controller
do this?  I have a 251-1 and was just wondering.
Thanks.

I know this is off-topic, but I just got a quote from your original message
from someone else and didn't have a node # to send netmail.



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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 6011
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 10/10/93 12:34a
Subj: CD-ROM Catalog!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG> Hello Mark.  Please place me on your mailing list for
MG> all CD titles and hardware catalogs.  Thanks.

MG> Max Green
MG> 399 Westmeade Dr.
MG> Gretna, La. 70056.
 
 Sure thing, Max.  You should receive a catalog soon.  Thank you for 
your interest. 
                                               Mark
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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 6012
  To: NATHANIEL BRITTS                         Date: 10/10/93  1:03a
Subj: wanted cd's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NB>                 3. Mammals-National Geo.
 
 Computer Works sells this for 24.00.  It would be shipped 2 Day 
 Priority Mail, and shipping rates are $4.00 for up to 5 CD's and $0.50 
 for every CD after the first 5.  Hope I have been of help.
 
                                               Mark
 
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! 
Online Credit Card Ordering Available! 
(205) 671-0092 - BBS 
(205) 793-4481 - Voice 
SysOp - Jim Lambert  CoSysOp - Mark Clardy
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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 6013
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/10/93  1:07a
Subj: Business CD's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Hello, Everyone!  The following is a list of the Business CD's carried 
by Computer Works.  If you would like a Catalog of all the CD's carried 
by Computer Works, just tell me your address, and we will mail one to 
you. 
                          Business
 
   11 Million Business Phone Numbers............22.00 
   American Business Phone Book 93-94...........35.00 
   American Business Phone Book.................16.00 
   Autodesk Explorer............................84.00 
   Britannica Select Software...................24.00 
   Business Assistant...........................12.00 
   Business Master..............................19.00 
   Career Oppurtunities.........................29.00 
   CD Lists Southern California................139.00 
   Essential Home & Business Collection.........49.00 
   Home Computer Starter Kit....................39.00 
   Home Office Software.........................44.00 
   Int'l. Business & Economic Atlas.............23.00 
   Lazer Tax....................................21.00 
   Marvis Beacon Teaches Typing.................24.00 
   Microsoft Works..............................39.00 
   My Advanced Label Designer...................53.00 
   North American FAX Book......................38.00 
   Phone Disc USA Business......................69.00 
   Phone Disc USA Residential...................64.00 
   ProPhone 1992................................42.00 
   ProPhone 1993................................96.00 
   ProPhone 1993 Mid Year Edition...............99.00 
   ProPhone Business 1993.......................26.00 
   Q & A........................................42.00 
   Win CD.......................................39.00
 
  All CD's are shipped 2 Day Priority Mail.  Shipping rates are $4.00 
 for up to 5 CD's, and $0.50 for every CD after the first 5.  Thank you 
 for your time. 
                                                       Mark
 
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! 
Online Credit Card Ordering Available! 
(205) 671-0092 - BBS 
(205) 793-4481 - Voice 
SysOp - Jim Lambert  CoSysOp - Mark Clardy
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From: KEVIN OLIVER                           Number: 6014
  To: PATRICK SHEN                             Date: 10/10/93  2:13p
Subj: Cd-rom for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PS> I have following CD-ROMs for sale.  All CD-ROMs are in 
 PS> New Condition. Add $3 for UPS or Priority Mail 
 PS> shipping.

 PS> 7th Guest by Virgin Games (2 CD set).  Smooth full 
 PS> motion video.  Best CD ever made.                    
 PS>                 --------------  $42.00

VERY interested, is it the full featured version?

Kevin


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From: TOMMY SZAJKO                           Number: 6015
  To: DAVID ROBERTS                            Date: 10/09/93  2:00p
Subj: Busty Babes 1.0 4sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DRInstead of putting a stupid message in this echo that says,
DRBusty Babes 1.0
DRfor sale to highest bidder!, I'll go ahead and say I wish to
DRsell this
DRoriginal for $125 straight out.  If you are interested, please

And if you pay more than $30 bucks for it then you should get your head
examined, because I have Busty Babes 1.0 (original) and it was $29.95 at a
computer show... You really shouldn't be ripping people off...

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From: BUCKY NOEL                             Number: 6016
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/09/93  4:15p
Subj: SEGA GENESIS W/ CD-ROM                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm selling a SEGA GENESIS w/ A SEGA CD-ROM
and 5 games including:
Sewer Shark (CD-ROM)
Altered Beast
Mickey Mouse in the Castle of Illusion (Don't let the name fool ya!)
Arrow Flash
Sonic the Hedgehog 2
all of this for $350 or for $325 without Sonic the Hedgehog 2

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From: JOHN LOVING                            Number: 6017
  To: ROB O'DELL                               Date: 10/09/93  6:47p
Subj: Nec Portable Cd-Rom                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 10-05-93 ROB O'DELL wrote to ALL... 
 
 RO> I have a few NEC Intersect 36 PORTABLE CD-ROMs laying around. 
 RO> They are SCSI interface and come with power supply and manual. 
 RO>   
 RO> $99.00 each. 
 RO>   
 RO> Reply here or for best results netmail @ 1:2380/100. 
 RO>   
 RO> Rob O'Dell 
 RO>   
 RO>   
 RO> --- WM v3.01/93-0552 
 RO>  * Origin: Computer Alley BBS - Monroe Net Host -  (1:2380/100.0) 
 
Rob, How about a phone number so we can talk turkey. I might be interested 
 
                                John Loving 
 
 
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From: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN                      Number: 6018
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 10/10/93  9:57a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Most of your response deleted to keep the quote police off my back.

 >>I'm sick of having to defend my belief that if a seller is not
 >>willing to stand behind his  product, that a person should be concerned...

 > If they were unwilling to take a DEFECTIVE product
 > back, it would be a matter
 > for concern. That they are unwilling to guarentee that
 > a product matches YOUR
 > TASTE is not - THAT is a fact of human existance.

But you see with the return/refund policy he wanted, then he doesn't have to
take ANY responsibility of his own. I own a couple of cdroms that I think suck
for content. They are technically ok, so I don't have a leg to stand on to
expect a refund.

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From: RICK WEAVER                            Number: 6019
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/10/93  2:23p
Subj: compton's                               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

I'll take one of those $66 compton's encyclopedias if you have one left! Give
me a call at 378-0559 soon! Thanks.

Rick Weaver


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From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                     Number: 6020
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 10/11/93 12:36a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL> JD>And I would buy from you before I bought from him for that very reason.
JL>
JL> Thanks, but I think you may be taking Lee all wrong.  "She"
JL> isn't so bad! <G>

That may be true.  I honestly know very little about Lee and the operation she
runs...  That is why I asked for a warranty in the first place..  I have never
said she does not have a quality product (or that it was not for that matter)
because I have no way of knowing.  I just have found in life if a seller is
willing to take the risk of standing behind there product, then the seller is
making a pledge about the product, and I feel more comfortable with it's
purchase.  I have never returned any of the CD's I've bought, but the local
vendor that I have gotten quite a few of them from has always told me that he
would allow me to exchange them if I found they did not fit my needs.  Anyway,
this entire message thread is really staring to get on my nerves, so if you
don't mind, I'd like to drop it once and for all.

Jean-Claude


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6021
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/11/93  1:55a
Subj: PIER 3                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*************************   P I E R   3  ******************************

            New Shareware CD from "The Pier Exchange
          600 + Megs Of The Latest Shareware Programs

                         PRICE  -  $25.00

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6130

************************************************************************

Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6022
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/11/93  1:55a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00  Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare   - $379.00  NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $249.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $739.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1169.  -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms Bare Dr - $369.00  Texel Ext 245ms Bare  - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int 3021 Bare  Dr - $189.00  Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $389.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00  Mitsumi w/Sound Card  - $325.00 -PRPR
 Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50.  ALL ChestNuts CD's $12.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6023
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/11/93  1:55a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 10                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                A L L   N E W   N I G H T  O W L  10

* Over 5,100 NEW Files   * Over 647 Meg's    * No Dupes   * Virus Checked
* No Dupes To v9.0       * All Zipped Files  * New Viewer * and  More  !!
The  ALL NEW  "Night Owl 10 "  is here  and ready  for  delievery  !! All
programs on this cd were written or updated between Jan 1st and  Sept 1st
1993.  In fact, 100megs of the total files are from Sept 1993.In addition,
N.O has a mouse driven GUI interface for both DOS and Windows !!
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: LEWIS BULLARD                          Number: 6024
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/09/93  2:16p
Subj: SALE OR TRADE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Have a few items I need to get rid of. All items guaranteed against DOA.

Magnavox CDD 461 CDrom. Light use, external, plays audio cds without
software, slow but good for bbs. Will include 5 cd's of shareware $250

Toshiba 42 meg MFM 3.5 hard drive with 5.25 mounting bracket

Shareware Extravaganza 4 cd's 25,000 programs

Sigcat 1992 software showcase, mostly DB stuff includes Wordperfect
5.1 manual, online bible among others.

Harvard Graphics for Windows, All manuals and letter to transfer reg

Logetech scanman 32 greyscale with paintshop

Kaypro II luggable computer with softcase, dual floppie, mono monitor
lots of cp/m software $75

AT&T business phone system, comkey, intercomm, speakerphone, 8 phones
with up to eight lines each $100

4 256x9 100ns simms

Professor Windows, learn windows at your own pace, box, dox and 5.25
only

Microprose F-19 Stealth Fighter, box, dox, reg, 5.25

Make offer on all items. Will consider trades on most. Am looking for
scsi controller with ext. ports, external scsi cases with cables,
Trantor parallel to scsi adapter, 14.4 ext. fax modem, reference cd's.

                    Lewis 405-357-5942



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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 6025
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/10/93  6:35p
Subj: Hobbes OS/2 Archive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have (1) of Hobbes OS/2 Archive CD's for sale.  This is not the new one
on the market, so I will let it go for $15, and will pay P&H if you pre-pay.
I do not have OS/2, so its doing me no good at all.  I might be willing to
trade also, for a decent CD... like clip-art would work pretty good for me.



Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: GARY GILMORE                           Number: 6026
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/09/93 10:12p
Subj: DFW Discount                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I just wanted to say, that if you're looking for CDROMs, I placed an order with
DFW Discount Electronics for Shareware Vault Gold.  When calling them, I got no
answer, but did leave a message on the machine.

The owner called me back the same day, and took the time to chat with me about
the CDs I was interested in.  I placed my order (COD) and waited.

On the 3rd day, the order arrived, as promised.  

The point:  I got what I wanted, when promised, as promised.

I'd recommend considering DFW if you're in the market for a CD.

You can reach them at 800-829-0331, BBS (with disk info available!) at
214-259-4188.

I'm sure there's others out there too, who are "good guys".  I just wanted to
let you know DFW belongs on that "Good Guys" list as well.  :-)

--Gary

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 6027
  To: CHET HART                                Date: 10/10/93  8:43a
Subj: CD-ROM for trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CH>   I'm willing to trade the adult CD-ROM "Legends of Porn
CH>2" for a text or multimedia encyclopedia of 1991 vintage or
CH>later. I'm not interested in any games.

   How about 1991 MS Bookshelf?
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ You are making progress if each mistake is a new one.


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From: KEVIN KING                             Number: 6028
  To: ADRIAN SALAS                             Date: 10/09/93 10:56p
Subj: RESELLERS QUAERTERLY                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dear Adrian Salas
I'll be sending your a pre-registered copy of our all NEW RESALE94.ZIP I just
finished it tonight and called a local Fido-net to check my messages. If you
are putting Shareware on CD-ROM, please include this RESALE94.ZIP if you would.
Also, If you sell CD-Roms to computer dealers, we would be interested in adding
your company to our database called "The Reseller's Source Kit"
If you do sell CD-ROM products to dealers, I also would like a dealer kit sent
to me for review.  Thank You.

Kevin King, SysOp
"My Favorite BBS"
BBS: 916-381-2851 24hrs

Disk-Count Data
P.O. Box 277482
Sacramento, CA. 95827



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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 6029
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/09/93  9:06p
Subj: Re: FIDO                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Dallas Hinton <=-
 MS> my own board, so I don't have netmail access.  I wasn't ignoring you,
 MS> just kind of blind right now when it comes to netmail.  If you want to

That explains why you never acknowledged my netmail, also. C'mon, Mike.
Get with da PRO-gram. Some dude here in Space City is running a freeware
mailer - seems to do pretty good with it, too.

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From: LOUIS SOKOL                            Number: 6030
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 10/11/93  8:22a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris, do you have any idea when the new NEC 3x and 4x CD players will be out? 
How about a projected street price? 

I am also interested in a Toshiba 3401 portable.  Do you have access to them? 
Thanks! 

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 6031
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 10/10/93  4:11p
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RL>Got the CD today as scheduled. Thanks for the fast service! Can you tell 
  >me which one of the Clipart CD's you carry is best? 
 
Hi Ronald.  Priority Mail has been pretty reliable for me.  Some of the 
better clipart discs are: 
 
Encyclopedia of Clipart                 $24.00  BBS Ready 
Desktop Publishers Dream Disk         $37.00  Manual Included 
Publisher's Paradise                    $32.00  Booklet Included 
 
Thanks for your business.  I appreciate it! 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 6032
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 10/10/93  6:46a
Subj: mag's                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I belive you posted about the magizines subscriotions, do you
 > know if Computer Shopper is part of that list or not and how
 > much?

No, CS is not carried in their listings. (Wish it were myself)

Chris

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 6033
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/11/93  5:32a
Subj: CD for sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego CD
brand new 20.00
leave mail...

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6034
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 10/09/93  1:50a
Subj: Precision Mapping                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FG>MS>FG>Mike, how much is this CD going for, between myself and my parents, we
FG>MS>FG>all travel alot, and this might be very very useful, let me
know..Frank

FG>MS>We have the latest version in stock at $77.

FG>Mike, I hate it when I loose track of a message thread, were we talking
FG>about Street Atlas 2 on this one, or another mapping product, and if so,

This price quote was for Precision Mapping.

FG>which one, and if it was something other than Street Atlas 2, which
FG>product would you recommend (IYHO).  I replied with an order for
FG>Street Atlas 2 for $95.00, but if this program works as well as,

Well, with the release of Street Atlas 2, I believe it is the *ultimate*
right now, at least in the "realistic" price range.  It seems to have
some aesthetic advantages over P.M., but the data for each should be
about the same vintage.  Bottom line:  spend a few extra bucks and get
the Cadillac.  You will appreciate Street Atlas 2 long after the sting
of paying a little more has worn off.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6035
  To: TED KIDD                                 Date: 10/09/93  1:51a
Subj: NEW CD TITLES                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TK>>MAC SHAREWARE * A great CD full of current Mac shareware for Mac only..$24

TK>Please tell me that this disc is IBM BBS ready!!??

Sorry Ted, readable on Apple System CD-ROM drives only.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6036
  To: HANK PETERSON                            Date: 10/09/93  1:51a
Subj: Replacement                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HP>      them on a variety of equipment.  I would love to buy the new
HP>      Hackers Chronicle but am worried it won't play on my Texel.

I don't think you need to worry, but if it doesn't read Hacker's,
consider having the drive looked at.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6037
  To: GEOFF REED                               Date: 10/09/93  1:51a
Subj: Brand New Cd-rom Titles                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GR><<***** On 09-30-93, Mike Shannon wrote to Frank Gresh: *****>>
GR>MS> TOTAL FANTASY * Newly released .GIF disc from Denmark

GR>  Mike, is this Disk any good?  what sort of Pics are on it?

Just sent one to Bob J.  Look for his review - he's a bit more objective
than I am on these adult CD's.  ALL the girls look good to me.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6038
  To: DALLAS HINTON                            Date: 10/09/93  1:51a
Subj: FIDO                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dallas,

Heard from my local sysop today that you've been trying to reach me
by netmail.  Unfortunately, I don't have the mailer installed yet on my
own board, so I don't have netmail access.  I wasn't ignoring you, just
kind of blind right now when it comes to netmail.  If you want to
discuss rules, etc., please feel free to call me at 509-457-2892
during normal business hours.  I am open to whatever suggestions or
requirements you have for me.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6039
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 10/09/93  1:51a
Subj: TIME ZONES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

VS>I should thank you - that experience showed me that there was
VS>a dire need for a Canadian supplier of CD-ROMs. That episode
VS>caused me to do a bit of a survey - I ordered from 9 of the
VS>dealers in this echo, and 5 dealers I found in the Computer
VS>Shopper. I noted things such as ease of ordering, how LONG it

You ordered from nine dealers in this echo, and you didn't order
anything from me???  Just who were those masked men?

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6040
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/09/93  1:51a
Subj: A PUBLIC APPEAL                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like to make this public appeal to all Starvector's past, present,
and future customers:

A problem exists in Fidoland, and it has just recently come to my
attention.  There exists a Fido policy which basically states that routed
Netmail is not to be used for the purposes of transacting any type of
commercial business.  This includes solicitations, direct sales, price
quotes, catalog requests, and the like.  I spoke with Dallas Hinton, the
zone coordinator for my area, on Thursday, October 7th, and he indicated
to me that a flood of Netmail was being sent to me, the bulk of which he
classified as "commercial" in nature.  Since I do not have a mailer
installed on my own board at present, and I do not have Netmail access at
the local BBS which I utilize, none of these messages were reaching me,
resulting in several re-posts, making the problem even worse.  If anyone
wishes to contact me regarding any business matters, PLEASE do so by
phone at 509-457-2892, or by modem at 509-457-2892, or by fax at 509-457-
2966, or alternatively, send public echomail.  I don't know the status of
other dealers in this conference, but Mr. Hinton essentially told me that
my Netmail traffic was far and away his biggest concern.

In my very cordial discussions with Mr. Hinton, I explained to him that I
had no idea such a problem existed, and kindly offered to help rectify the
situation by making this public announcement, so PLEASE folks, I HONESTLY
DO appreciate your interest and your continued support, but for the sake
of the conference and the echo, let's lay off the Netmail, at least for
the purposes of conducting business.  We are upgrading our puny little
BBS now to make way for more storage space, and hopefully a front-end
mailer (if I can figure out how to install the damn thing), so I would
hope that any Netmail messages to me could wait until then.

Lastly, I would just like to stress that this IS important, as several
zone coordinators have petitioned to have CDROM_SALE, COMMERCIAL 4SALE,
and various other conferences removed from the backbone because of
over-commercialization, which technically is a violation of Fidonet policy.
So please folks, let's not add fuel to the fire - reserve your routed
Netmail messages for issues which don't involve any type of commercial
transactions.  This applies to sending Netmail to ANYONE, not just me.

Thanks for understanding,

.\\ike Shannon
Starvector Software

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6041
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/09/93  1:51a
Subj: CD-ROM DUPE CHART II                    Refer: NONE
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------------------------------------------------------------------------
          SHAREWARE CD DUPE CHART II from Starvector Software
------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.3
   (Available on Pier 3, or from the Starvector BBS at 509-457-0206)

SVG = SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD   SV2 = SOFTWARE VAULT 2      PR2 = PIER 2
SS2 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 2    SS3 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 3    PR3 = PIER 3
SO2 = SHAREWARE ONLINE 2    N09 = NIGHT OWL 9           N10 = NIGHT OWL 10

             % OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
            ---------------------------------------------------
 >>   Note:  Diagonal reflects % of INTERNAL dupes within a given CD.  <<

            PR2   PR3   N09   N10   SS2   SS3   SO2   SV2   SVG
          +-----------------------------------------------------+
       PR2| .00%  .55% 19.7% 1.72%  .02% 7.30% 20.5% 16.5% 4.59%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       PR3| .55%  .00% 10.2% 36.0%  .00% 8.14% 8.94% 2.20% 24.9%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       NO9|19.7% 10.2%  .12%  .08% 1.24%  .10% 36.8% 19.5% 25.8%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       N10|1.72% 36.0%  .08%  .00%  .31%  .00% 2.38% 1.31% 20.8%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SS2| .02%  .00% 1.24%  .31%  .01%  .12%  .00% 1.58% 2.29%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SS3|7.30% 8.14%  .10%  .00%  .12%  .02% 13.4%  .00% 10.2%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SO2|20.5% 8.94% 36.8% 2.38%  .00% 13.4%  .30% 25.4% 13.9%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SV2|16.5% 2.20% 19.5% 1.31% 1.58%  .00% 25.4%  .01% 1.69%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SVG|4.59% 24.9% 25.8% 20.8% 2.29% 10.2% 13.9% 1.69%  .00%|
          +-----------------------------------------------------+

        PRICES
        ------
        PIER 2..............29.00      PIER 3..............39.00
        NIGHT OWL 9.........25.00      NIGHT OWL 10........35.00
        SHAREWARE STUDIO 2..23.00      SHAREWARE STUDIO 3..25.00
        SOFTWARE VAULT 2....24.00      SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD.25.00
        SHAREWARE ONLINE 2..29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6042
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/11/93 12:59a
Subj: NEW CD-ROM TITLES                       Refer: NONE
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            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #1:  NEW CD ARRIVALS   |
           |____________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

 9000 SOUNDS * From weird sound effect to musical scores. BBS-Ready.....$25
 AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK 93/94 * New release. 11,000,000 businesses.$25
 ARIZONA IMAGES * Fabulous photos of the Arizona desert country.........$25
 CANADIAN SHAREWARE * Nice job by Betacorp on this new shareware CD!....$22
 COLOR MAGIC CLIPART * 600 megs. of 3-D color clipart.  Royalty-free....$27
>COMPUTER REFERENCE LIBRARY * Tutorials for popular software packages...$13
 DINOSAURS! * Fabulous interactive, multimedia Dinosaur directory on CD.$34
 DR. MUSIC * Brand new offering loaded with sound and music files.......$20
 DR. GAMES * Hours upon hours of gameplaying mayhem! BBS-Ready..........$20
 DR. SHAREWARE * Just another shareware CD? No - this one's excellent!..$20
 DR. WINDOWS * Games, utilities, productivity, business, it's all here..$20
 FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$30
 GAMEWARE COLLECTION * Over 6000 of the all time best games! BBS-ready..$24
 GARDENING * Complete handbook for the home gardener on ROM!............$13
 GIGA GAMES * Brand new from Walnut Creek. Set up for 6 popular BBS's...$25
 KING'S QUEST VI * Newest in the KQ series. Better than 7th Guest!......$44
 LAN MASTER * High quality Networking utilities & technical notes.......$27
 LEARNING HEAVEN * Mind challenging educational games...................$23
 MAC MULTIMEDIA SPACE * A M/M space adventure for Macintosh only........$39
 MAC SHAREWARE * A great CD full of current Mac shareware for Mac only..$24
>MAD DOG MCCREE * Great shoot 'em up game with real, full-motion video..$49
 MICROSOFT BOOKSHELF 1993 * The latest CD-ROM reference library.........$58
 MICROSOFT GOLF * Multimedia Golf game that is "on par with reality"....$58
>NIGHT OWL 10 * The newest from Night Owl's with 5100 all '93 files!....$35
 PHOENIX 4.0 * Finally - An update to 3! Very clean CD with fresh files.$19
 PHONEDISC USA * Summer '93 edition w/ 80 million residential listings..$69
 PIER 3 * 650+mb of all new material w/ no dupes to Pier 1 or 2.........$39
 PRECISION MAPPING 1.5 * Newest release! Detailed street-level map......$77
 PROJECT GUTENBERG * Texts from Project Gutenberg for 1991-1993.........$22
 REEL CLIPS * 600mb of royalty-free digital video clips.................$35
 SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
 SHAREWARE ONLINE 2 * Brand new w/ pure 1993 files! The NEWEST s/w CD!..$29
>SHAREWARE STUDIO 3 * All new files with NO dupes to Night Owl 10!......$25
 SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD * Totally new shareware w/ no dupes to Vault 2!....$25
 STRAIGHT FROM HEAVEN * Great new religious CD w/ several online Bibles.$23
 STREET ATLAS v2 * Finally, we have an update with tons of new data!....$95

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6043
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/11/93 12:59a
Subj: CD DUPE CHART II                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

------------------------------------------------------------------------
          SHAREWARE CD DUPE CHART II from Starvector Software
------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.3
   (Available on Pier 3, or from the Starvector BBS at 509-457-0206)

SVG = SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD   SV2 = SOFTWARE VAULT 2      PR2 = PIER 2
SS2 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 2    SS3 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 3    PR3 = PIER 3
SO2 = SHAREWARE ONLINE 2    N09 = NIGHT OWL 9           N10 = NIGHT OWL 10

             % OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
            ---------------------------------------------------
 >>   Note:  Diagonal reflects % of INTERNAL dupes within a given CD.  <<

            PR2   PR3   N09   N10   SS2   SS3   SO2   SV2   SVG
          +-----------------------------------------------------+
       PR2| .00%  .55% 19.7% 1.72%  .02% 7.30% 20.5% 16.5% 4.59%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       PR3| .55%  .00% 10.2% 36.0%  .00% 8.14% 8.94% 2.20% 24.9%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       NO9|19.7% 10.2%  .12%  .08% 1.24%  .10% 36.8% 19.5% 25.8%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       N10|1.72% 36.0%  .08%  .00%  .31%  .00% 2.38% 1.31% 20.8%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SS2| .02%  .00% 1.24%  .31%  .01%  .12%  .00% 1.58% 2.29%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SS3|7.30% 8.14%  .10%  .00%  .12%  .02% 13.4%  .00% 10.2%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SO2|20.5% 8.94% 36.8% 2.38%  .00% 13.4%  .30% 25.4% 13.9%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SV2|16.5% 2.20% 19.5% 1.31% 1.58%  .00% 25.4%  .01% 1.69%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SVG|4.59% 24.9% 25.8% 20.8% 2.29% 10.2% 13.9% 1.69%  .00%|
          +-----------------------------------------------------+

        PRICES
        ------
        PIER 2..............29.00      PIER 3..............39.00
        NIGHT OWL 9.........25.00      NIGHT OWL 10........35.00
        SHAREWARE STUDIO 2..23.00      SHAREWARE STUDIO 3..25.00
        SOFTWARE VAULT 2....24.00      SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD.25.00
        SHAREWARE ONLINE 2..29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6044
  To: ALL DEALERS                              Date: 10/11/93 12:59a
Subj: GREAT DEALER PRICING                    Refer: NONE
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                        ATTENTION CD-ROM DEALERS!
                        -------------------------
 Starvector is pleased to announce our joint venture with The Pier Exchange
 and Damar Enterprises, as distributors for their respective lines of high-
 quality, superior shareware CD-ROM titles.  We now have the following CD
 titles available for resale, with EXCELLENT mix-n-match dealer pricing:

 Pier 3 * Pier 2 * Pier 1 * CD OS/2Box * CD Powerbox 1.01 * CD Winbox

 If you are interested in any of these titles, please give us a call!
 Starvector Software * 509-457-2892 (voice) * 509-457-2966 (fax)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6045
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/11/93 12:59a
Subj: CD-ROM BUNDLE SPECIALS                  Refer: NONE
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          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #5: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS   |
         |________________________________________________________|


   1. Night Owl 7.0        2. Night Owl 8.0       3. Southern Beauties
      Night Owl 8.0           Night Owl 9.0          Digital Dreams
      Night Owl 9.0           Night Owl 10           Amateur Models
      -------------           ------------           --------------
      $59                     $69                    $85


   4. Night Owl 9.0        5. Night Owl 10        6. Pier 2
      Night Owl 10.0          Pier 3                 Pier 3
      --------------          ------                 ------
      $55                     $59                    $59


   7. Software Vault 1     8. Empire Clipart      9. Night Owl 10
      Software Vault 2        Clipart Heaven         Pier 3
      Software Vault Gold     Ency. of Clipart       Software Vault Gold
      -------------------     ----------------       -------------------
      $57                     $59                    $59


  10. CD Winbox           11. Giga Games         12. Mac Shareware
      Windows 93              Game Arena             Garbo DOS/Mac
      ----------              ----------             -------------
      $44                     $35                    $35


  13. Fantazia Fonts      14. OS/2Box           15. Shareware Online 1
      Fontmaster 2            CD Powerbox           Shareware Online 2
      Too Many Typefonts      CD Winbox             So Much Shareware 3
      ------------------      ---------             -------------------
      $49                     $49                   $69

PLUS, AN ADDED BONUS . . . . .

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6046
  To: DON NELSON                               Date: 10/11/93 12:59a
Subj: PRE-ORDER OS/2BOX!                      Refer: NONE
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DN>MS>                        - DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE -

DN>What quanity does one have to buy to qualify for dealer pricing?

10+

DN>Mix & Match?

Yup.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6047
  To: STEAN SNYMAN                             Date: 10/11/93 12:59a
Subj: info on CD's                            Refer: NONE
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SS> MS> We have them both in stock, at $14 and $20, respectively.  Give a shout
SS> MS> if you're interested.  Can ship same day.

SS>At last I got an reply :))..  Could you maby give a description on the VGA
SS>Spectrum disk, and how much for Air shipping here to the good ol' Republic
of
SS>SA?...  Thanks..

CA167 VGA SPECTRUM 1 - A one-of-a-kind disc with sound software,
graphics, animation, clipart, demos, .GIF files, Soundblaster/Adlib
utilities, and great EGA/VGA games! DOS MM

Airmail insured would be $14.  Airmail small packet (non-insured) would
be $6.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6048
  To: MEINDERT VAN DER VEER                    Date: 10/11/93 12:59a
Subj: PRE-ORDER OS/2BOX!                      Refer: NONE
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MVDV>I faxed an order. Was it received?

Indeed it was, and thanks.  Still awaiting the OS/2Box's, or would you
rather I backorder them for you?

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6049
  To: PHILIP POLSTRA                           Date: 10/11/93 12:59a
Subj: PRE-ORDER OS/2BOX!                      Refer: NONE
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PP> MS>             We are now taking pre-orders on the following title.
PP> MS>              - Cards are not processed until date of shipment -
PP> MS>             _______________________________    _________________
PP> MS>            |                               |  |                 |
PP> MS>            |      Title:  CD OS/2BOX       |  |   Price:  $29   |
PP> MS>            |_______________________________|  |_________________|

PP>Shipping this month?  When I pre-ordered the disk I was told shipping the
fir
PP>week of this month which ends in two days.  I've allready got all my users
PP>hyped on this CD, they'll linch me if I don't deliver. :(

Sorry Phil, that was the expected delivery date, but they've fallen a little
behind in production.  Should be released VERY soon now.  Check with Dave
Perkovich at Damar Enterprises for more info on E.T.A., as he is the
publisher.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6050
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/11/93  1:00a
Subj: Inside tip                              Refer: NONE
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LN>several more distribs have announced they are getting away from the 'XXX'
LN>material--Another big tradeshow, just announced that adult CD's can not be
LN>displayed......our industry remains in a shake-up, and the consumer best
grab
LN>all they can, because these 'Hay' days are about dead.

You speak the truth, oh well-travelled one.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6051
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 10/11/93  1:00a
Subj: Queer                                   Refer: NONE
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DR>Listen to me you camel-sucking sand monkey:

Man, when are you going to come out of your shell and learn to express
your TRUE feelings?

.\\ike

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From: ADRIAN SALAS                           Number: 6052
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/10/93 10:51a
Subj: CD-ROM SALE           1/2               Refer: NONE
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      ***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************

                            NIGHT OWL 10

                               39.00

                  647+ Megabytes of Fully BBS Ready files


   ******************* UPDATED PRICE LIST ***********************
                        October 1, 1993

SUPER CD 1................ 22.00    SUPER CD 2............... 29.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 2....... 30.00    SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3...... 35.00
NIGHTOWL 9................ 32.00    NIGHTOWL 8............... 29.00
SOUNDWAV.................. 26.95    SHAREWARE EXTRAVAGANZA... 55.00
PC-S1G 12................. 41.50    SOFTWARE VAULT........... 28.00
DESKTOP PUBLISHERS DREAM.. 39.50    TIME DESERT STORM........ 29.95
PC MEDIC.................. 32.50    CICA WINDOWS............. 29.00
VGA SPECTRUM v2........... 19.00    CD-CADDYS................ 4.50
DR. WINODOWS...............22.00    DR. GAMES................ 22.00
DR. MUSIC................. 22.00    DR. SHAREWARE............ 22.00
Americas Premire.......... 18.75    Gigabyte Gold............ 36.50
Phoenix Version 3.0....... 19.50    Shareware Avalnche....... 39.00
Sharware Galore........... 37.50    Sharware Overloard....... 37.50
Shareware Tiger........... 39.00    World Vision............. 79.00
Window Master............. 39.00    Software Vault GOLD...... 35.00

************************** ADULT TITLES ***************************
Note: You must be 21 or over to purchase these titles
ECTASY HOT PICS........... 35.00    BUSTY BABES.............. 35.00
ASIAN LADIES.............. 35.00    PC PIX 3................. 35.00
PORKWARE 2................ 35.00    HOT HUNKS................ 35.00
LUCIOUS LADIES............ 35.00    EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2...... 35.00
Beach Babes............... 39.00    Animation Fantasies 1.... 39.00
Animation Fantasies 2..... 39.00    Gay/Bi/Lesbians.......... 39.00
Giffy Girls Gold.......... 39.00    Hot Pix 4................ 39.00
Hot Pix 5................. 39.00    My Private Collection 1.. 29.00
My Private Collection 2... 39.00    PC PIX 1................. 39.00
PC PIX 2.................. 39.00    PC PIX 3................. 39.00
Porkware 1................ 39.00    Private Pictures......... 36.00
Stareware................. 34.00    Storm 1 ................. 28.00
Storm 2................... 39.00    Storm 3.................. 41.00
Wicked.................... 69.00
************************ CLIPART **********************************

Clip Art Galore........... 25.00    Clip Art Goliath......... 25.00
Corel ArtShow............. 79.00    Font Fun House........... 39.00
Lovely Ladies 2........... 39.00    Media Clips Business..... 29.00
Media Clips Island........ 29.00    Media Clips Jets......... 29.00
Media Clips Majestic...... 29.00    Media Clisp Money........ 29.00
Media Clips Wild.......... 29.00    Media Clips World........ 29.00
Mediasource.............. 289.00    Mediasource 2........... 289.00
Mediasource Historical... 289.00    Mother Earth 2........... 29.00
Quick Artline............ 219.00    SoMuch Screenware........ 35.00
Electronic Library of Art  69.50

*********************** BUSINESS & REFERENCE **********************

Atlas of US Presidents.... 29.00    Atlas Pack............... 89.00
Berlitz Think & Talk......149.00    Bibles & Religion........ 24.50
CD-ROM Dierctory......... 109.00    Cinimania............... 295.00
Colosal Cookbook.......... 24.00    Complete Bookshop........ 24.00
Comptons Encylopedia..... 159.00    Corel Draw 4.0.......... 489.00
Dictionaires & Languages.. 24.50    Food Analyst............. 49.50
Food Anylst Plus......... 149.00    Ham Radio v3.0.......... 149.00
Information USA.......... 119.00    KGB-CIA World Fact Book.. 39.00
Corel Draw 3.0........... 149.00    Monarch Notes............ 79.00
MS Office for Windows.... 589.00    Multimedia Audobons Birds 39.00
Multimedias Audons mamals  29.00    Multimedia World Fact book39.50
Murmurs of Earth.......... 49.00    Our Solar System......... 24.00
ProPhone 1993 7 cd set... 179.00    Publish It............... 69.00
Sound Sensations.......... 24.50    Space Adventure.......... 36.00
Mamals National Geograpic. 39.00    Techno Tools............. 24.50
The Bible Library......... 24.50    The Books list........... 49.50
The Family Doctor......... 39.00    Too many Type Fonts...... 24.50
Total Baseball............ 59.00    US Atlas with Automap.... 39.00
Encarta.................. 295.00    World Atlus CD-ROM....... 29.00
World Vista............... 63.00    Elecrtonic Home Library.. 59.00
Time Table of History..... 38.00    Toolworks Reference Library31.90

Mavis Beacon Teaches typing v2.0 39.00
Sports Illistraded Almanac 49.00
Street Atlus USA WINDOWS 92.50
Multimedia Animals Encyclopedia 56.90
Library of the Future 2nd Edition 159.00
1992 Time Magazine Compact Almanac 69.00
The Electronic Library ofArt 89.00
Groiler New Multimedia Encyclopedia 295.00
Dinasours & Multimedia Encyclopedia 89.00
Vital Signs The good health resource 83.00
Comptons Interactive Encyclopedia for Windows 299.00

               ************* GAMES, ROLE PLAYING **********

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From: ADRIAN SALAS                           Number: 6053
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/10/93 10:51a
Subj: CD-ROM SALE           2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

(Continued from previous message)

Arthurs Teacher trouble 34.90 Bakers Dozen Game Pak for Windows 29.00
barney Bear Goes to Space 39.00 Battle Chess Enhanced 40.00
Conan 31.00 Deathstar Arcade Batlles 24.50 Future Wars 54.50 Guy Spy 39.00
Jones in the Fast Lane 29.00 Just Grandma and me 44.00 Kings Quest 5 39.00
Kings Quest 6 39.00 LOOM 29.00  Mixed Up Mother Goose 29.95
Murder Makes Strange Dead Fellows 45.00 Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe 29.00
Space Quest 4 29.95 Spaceship Warlock 79.95 Spirit Of Excaliber 79.00
Stellar 7 29.00
7th Gyest 59.00 The Advuentures of Willly Beamish 52.50 Chessmater 3000 29.00
Lost Treasures of Infocom 59.50 Lsot tresures of Infocom 2 44.95
The manhole 44.97 The Secret Of Momkey island 35.90 Ultima I-VI series 49,95
Where in the world is Carmen San Diego 29.00 Wing Commander plus Secret
Missions 1& 2 69.95 Wing Commander 2 69.00 Wrath of the Demon 37.50

        -------------------- end of list ---------------------------
*All in stock and ready to ship.


* Shipping is 5.00 up to 3 cds .50 each additional.
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  SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6054
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/12/93  7:59p
Subj: CD-ROM DUPE CHART II                    Refer: 9501
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> SVG = SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD   SV2 = SOFTWARE VAULT 2      PR2 = PIER 2
-> SS2 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 2    SS3 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 3    PR3 = PIER 3
-> SO2 = SHAREWARE ONLINE 2    N09 = NIGHT OWL 9           N10 = NIGHT O
->
->              % OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
->             ---------------------------------------------------
->  >>   Note:  Diagonal reflects % of INTERNAL dupes within a given CD.
->
->             PR2   PR3   N09   N10   SS2   SS3   SO2   SV2   SVG
->           +-----------------------------------------------------+
->        PR2| .00%  .55% 19.7% 1.72%  .02% 7.30% 20.5% 16.5% 4.59%|
->           |-----------------------------------------------------|
->        PR3| .55%  .00% 10.2% 36.0%  .00% 8.14% 8.94% 2.20% 24.9%|
->           |-----------------------------------------------------|
->        NO9|19.7% 10.2%  .12%  .08% 1.24%  .10% 36.8% 19.5% 25.8%|
->           |-----------------------------------------------------|
->        N10|1.72% 36.0%  .08%  .00%  .31%  .00% 2.38% 1.31% 20.8%|
->           |-----------------------------------------------------|
->        SS2| .02%  .00% 1.24%  .31%  .01%  .12%  .00% 1.58% 2.29%|
->           |-----------------------------------------------------|
->        SS3|7.30% 8.14%  .10%  .00%  .12%  .02% 13.4%  .00% 10.2%|
->           |-----------------------------------------------------|
->        SO2|20.5% 8.94% 36.8% 2.38%  .00% 13.4%  .30% 25.4% 13.9%|
->           |-----------------------------------------------------|
->        SV2|16.5% 2.20% 19.5% 1.31% 1.58%  .00% 25.4%  .01% 1.69%|
->           |-----------------------------------------------------|
->        SVG|4.59% 24.9% 25.8% 20.8% 2.29% 10.2% 13.9% 1.69%  .00%|
->           +-----------------------------------------------------+

Shareware Studio II is the least duplicated disc listed, with an
average dupe rate of 0.62%.... Shareware Studio III comes in 2nd
place with a dupe rate of only 4.36%.

tim
biased mathematician
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From: KEVIN KING                             Number: 6055
  To: MARK CROSBIE                             Date: 10/10/93  2:30p
Subj: CDROMS FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks Mark for your request for Resale93.zip. I just finished RESALE94.ZIP
which I'll mail to you. This will be a pre-registered version should you want
to post it on your BBS and make some income to help off set your costs of
running a BBS.  Kevin King, SysOp "My Favorite BBS" 916-381-2851 a Business
support board and home of the "Reseller's Source Kit" formally the reseller's
quarterly.


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From: CHRISTINE UNDERWOOD                    Number: 6056
  To: KEITH SATURN                             Date: 10/11/93  6:55a
Subj: Genealogy CDs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks Keith. I appreciate the reply.  An associate of mine is planning on
getting this cd so I'll get to borrow it from him. <g>

Chris

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From: ADRIAN VERGOT                          Number: 6057
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/10/93  1:30p
Subj: Custom CD-ROM $75 !                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM? 
 
CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your proprietary DOS or Windows
files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and Affordable.
All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information
(600+ Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (other
formats considered on a case by case basis) and we will directly
transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any
ISO compliant CD-ROM drive (just about every one made today!)
 
- Confidentiality is assured
- $75 per CD-ROM (mention this add)
- additional copies only $50 each
- Turn around time is about 2 days
- BBS Sysops call for rates
- We accept money orders and cashiers checks
- Pesonal Check orders will be shipped when check clears bank
 
If interested, call (412) 942-4694 and ask for Adrian 
Auto Fax (412) 942-4694
 
CD ROM Creations
108 Shady Lane
McMurray, PA  15317
 
Enclose a signed copy of the following disclaimer with your order:
 
DUE TO THE BULK NATURE OF THIS SERVICE, CD-ROM CREATIONS (c) DOES
NOT AND CAN NOT CENSOR AND DETERMINE THE NATURE OF THE MATERIEL
THAT THE CUSTOMER IS PROVIDING.  IT IS THEREFORE THE SOLE
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER TO ENSURE THAT NO COPYRIGHT
VIOLATIONS EXIST IN PLACING THE DATA ONTO CD-ROM
                      Signed ______________________________
                                     Your Signature

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From: JOEL JACOBS                            Number: 6058
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/11/93  7:03p
Subj: OS/2 2.1 CD Wanted                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anybody have OS/2 2.1 on CD they would like to sell?
My daytime phone number is (614)833-9696. Or Netmail.

Thanks
Joel

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 6059
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/11/93  8:20p
Subj: for sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Macromedia Action version 2.5 SE & Clipmedia 2.00 SE

Make your own multi-media presentations, includes manual.
Requires MPC cd-rom, soundblaster, mouse and Windows.

$25.00  leave reply.

                             Mike Harris

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 6060
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/11/93  8:22p
Subj: address for                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can someone give me the address for Sexy CD software
the cd only has           sexy cd software
                          miami fl. 33166

I need a p.o. box or street address.

                        Thanks in advance.

                           Mike Harris

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 6061
  To: ADRIAN VERGOT                            Date: 10/11/93  8:26p
Subj: Custom CD-ROM $75 !                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM?

 > CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your proprietary DOS or
 > Windows
 > files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and Affordable.
 > All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information
 > (600+ Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (other
 > formats considered on a case by case basis) and we will directly
 > transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any
 > ISO compliant CD-ROM drive (just about every one made today!)

 > - Confidentiality is assured
 > - $75 per CD-ROM (mention this add)
 > - additional copies only $50 each

If I wanted 10 copies of the same cd it would cost me $525.00?

                                  Mike Harris

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 6062
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 10/11/93  8:30p
Subj: Budget Cd's 4 sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > New Machine CD Adult Sampler ROM     a           7.00
 > New Machine CD Adult Sampler ROM     a           7.00
 > New Wave Hookers Vol. 1              a          39.00
 > New Wave Hookers Vol. 2              a          39.00

Could you elebarate on what a demo cd is please and a little more description
of the hookers?

                                Mike Harris

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 6063
  To: MICHAEL GUIDRY                           Date: 10/11/93  8:50p
Subj: Cd's For Sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Will take the SWOTL if it's got the docs.  Let me know how you want to
 > do the transaction.

 > Mike.  My real fido address is 1:396/1.4


Mike,
I sold the disk already. Sorry but what I did was I went by the first message I
saw that wanted the disk and the guy bought it. The others are still avilable
thou.

                                 Mike Harris

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From: RICHARD SKANDIS                        Number: 6064
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/11/93  7:35a
Subj: NEC 3X/4X CDROM DRVS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone know the street price of the NEC 3x/4x drives that were announced
last week in Infoworld? The article gave $600 for the external version of the
3x drive and $900 for the 4x drives. The access time on these drives was 200ms.
Thanks for any info you may have. Rich

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From: BOB CENTERBAR                          Number: 6065
  To: TED KIDD                                 Date: 10/11/93  8:08a
Subj: CD's on a Novell Server                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 10-09-93 TED KIDD wrote to BOB CENTERBAR... 
 
 TK> BC> Couldn't get it to mount myself, but did map them off a terminal,  
 TK> BC> worksfine for the BBS.  Wastold that they could be mounted with 
 TK> the  
 TK> BC> properdrivers from Novell.  
 TK>  
 TK> Yeah... but that costs a bunch!  Novell version 3.12(?) is supposedly 
 TK> CD-Rom 
 TK> friendly..... still a pretty penny for the upgrade. 
 
What version of Novell are you using?  I'm sure the drivers can be had 
as a stand-a-lone by connecting Novell.  But its fairly easy to use 
the MAP command and have the CD on one of the work stations.  We have 
two CD drives on one work station, the only problem is if the station 
goes down then the server must be brought down in order to remap the 
two drives. 
 
Later...Bob 
 
 
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From: HAROLD YARBROUGH                       Number: 6066
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/10/93  7:40p
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For Sale: Premium MS-DOS - Volume #2.......................
          Premium MS-WINDOWS - Volume #1...................
          Shareware Studio II..............................
          Monster Disc (2 disc set)........................
          Windows 1993.....................................
          CD Power Box.....................................
          Nightowl 7.0.....................................
          Nightowl 8.0.....................................
          Pier 1...........................................

ALL cd's are BBS ready. Great for adding files to BBS.

$15.00 each or $100.00 for Set!

Contact Harold at (314) 255-1792

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From: LEWIS BULLARD                          Number: 6067
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/11/93  4:21p
Subj: SALE OR TRADE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Have a few items I need to get rid of. All items guaranteed against DOA.

Magnavox CDD 461 CDrom. Light use, external, plays audio cds without
software, slow but good for bbs. Will include 5 cd's of shareware $250

Toshiba 42 meg MFM 3.5 hard drive with 5.25 mounting bracket

Shareware Extravaganza 4 cd's 25,000 programs

Sigcat 1992 software showcase, mostly DB stuff includes Wordperfect
5.1 manual, online bible among others.

Harvard Graphics for Windows, All manuals and letter to transfer reg

Logetech scanman 32 greyscale with paintshop

Kaypro II luggable computer with softcase, dual floppie, mono monitor
lots of cp/m software $75

AT&T business phone system, comkey, intercomm, speakerphone, 8 phones
with up to eight lines each $100

4 256x9 100ns simms

Professor Windows, learn windows at your own pace, box, dox and 5.25
only

Microprose F-19 Stealth Fighter, box, dox, reg, 5.25

Make offer on all items. Will consider trades on most. Am looking for
scsi controller with ext. ports, external scsi cases with cables,
Trantor parallel to scsi adapter, 14.4 ext. fax modem, reference cd's.

                    Lewis 405-357-5942



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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 6068
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/11/93  5:22a
Subj: Night Owl $29                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: PATRICK SHEN                           Number: 6069
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/08/93  6:18p
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have following CD-ROMs for sale.  All CD-ROMs are in New Condition. Add $3
for UPS or Priority Mail shipping.

7th Guest by Virgin Games (2 CD set).  Smooth full motion video.  Best CD
ever made.                                    --------------  $42.00

Software Toolworks CD Deluxe Pack.  Includes ChessMaster 3000 MPC, Mavis
Beacon Teaches Typing MPC, U.S. Atlas MPC and World Atlas MPC.  Each has
own complete documents.                          --------------  $55.00

Software Toolworks CD Game Pack II.  10 games on one CD.  Each has its own
documents.                             --------------------  $25.00

LucasArts Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe.  Very good World War II Air
Combat Simulation game.  I'll include a mission/utilities disk as a free
bonus.                                      -------------------  $25.00

Wing Commander/Ultima VI.  Get 2 award winning games on one excellent CD
Space simulation and Adventure.  With all manuals and Registration card.
                                             ------------------  $27.00

Mixed-up Mother Goose MPC.  Sierra combines master storytelling with the
classic rhymes to create this children's adventure game.  Children learn
early reading skills and get introduced to the world of computers.
                                          ---------------------  $20.00

Deathstar Arcade Battles.  The most exciting arcade action and other games
of all time.                           ------------------  $15.00

American Business Phone Book 92 Edition.          -------------- $20.00

SelectWare System.  The Ultimate Software Demo System.   ------   $9.00

Amateur Models Adult CD.                      ------------------ $35.00

Hot Pix Volume 4 Adult CD.                      ---------------- $20.00

Storm III Adult CD.                              --------------- $20.00

If you are interested, please reply here to contact me at E-mail address
below.

Patrick Shen CompuServe: 72072,3612 Internet: pshen#simenv.com or
72072.3612@compuserve.com

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From: JOHN RICKER                            Number: 6070
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 10/11/93  3:59p
Subj: Buying Used CD's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GE|o| JR>  |o|    Busty Babes 1.3

GE|o| JR>What would ya like for this one ?

GE|o|    $25

Ok, let me get back with ya on this, and do ya know if it is BBS ready ?

John

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From: JOHN RICKER                            Number: 6071
  To: MARK GREENHAW                            Date: 10/11/93  4:17p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Review: Hacker               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG|o|  >Would it be possible for ya to tell me where i could find the above
  |o|  >mentioned CD ?

MG|o| Hacker Chronicles can be ordered from Crocodile Computers at (205)477-617
  |o| a cost of $29.00 +S&H.

Thanks alot for the information... I'll give them a call...

John

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From: JOHN RICKER                            Number: 6072
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/11/93  4:18p
Subj: hacker chronicles                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC|o| We have the Hacker Chronicles in stock for $25.95 plus shipping.  Call
  |o| 615-339-0235 to order.  No surcharges for credit card usage.

Thanks for the info Doug, let me look around and see what the price is
that I can get, and if your's is the best I will give ya a call...

john

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From: KELLY KIMBALL                          Number: 6073
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/11/93  8:37p
Subj: AutoCAD CD ROM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   <WANTED> <WANTED> <WANTED> <WANTED> <WANTED> <WANTED> <WANTED>

    Looking for a good AutoCAD/CAD Shareware/Public Domain CD Rom.
Hoping will contain LISP, 3D Drawings, Utilities, etc... Have heard of a
CD called ACAD Global Village CD, anyone know where to get that one???

    Let me know where and how much $$$$...


              Thanks,

                   Kelly.


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6074
  To: DAVE BAKKER                              Date: 10/12/93  2:10a
Subj: Re: Disk                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Boris, just wondering when I can expect my disk, Mayo Clinic,
>>    I talked to you on the phone almost two weeks ago (Sept 27). I
>>    sent a Money order with my request.  You said if I air mail it
>>    to you, you would get it in two days and it would take 2 days
>>    to send it.

We received your check on 10/4/93 and your order was shipped arimail on
10/5/93.

As I stated to you, it takes 7 - 10 days to get to you, sometimes faster
depending on how busy customes is. I would think you should have your order
any day now.

>>    Just wondering where it is, as I'm starting to worry.

I wouldn't be concerned at this point, but if you don't get it by this
weekend, call us at 800-243-0517 and let us know, we do insure all packages
going out of here.

Yes, this 800 number does work in Canada.....

Chat with you soon...

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6075
  To: PHILIP MILLER                            Date: 10/12/93  2:10a
Subj: Re: Corel Draw 3.0                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>
>>            Is there anyone who has just recently upgraded to
>>            Corel Draw 4.0 and willing to part with their Corel
>>     Draw 3.0 CDROM?

Have a used copy of it, will sell cheap !!

Call us at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be glad to help you out.

Boris Osadciw

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From: CHRIS SLAICIUNAS                       Number: 6076
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/11/93  6:19p
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
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       Would anybody like to by some cd's for $7 apiece like Bobby Brown
Bobby, Nirvana, Singles, Nine Inch Nails, Public Enemy, Tool, Beastie
Boys. Let me know.

                                                -EXTREME
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From: KEN NEIL                               Number: 6077
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/11/93 11:56a
Subj: Cd Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone out there selling CD rom disks to the public (Canadian Funds
Only) could you please send me your catalog's! There are a few of us
here looking for good deals, and hey, in todays economy Discounts Talk!

Att Ken Neil
    2256 Haltyre Ct
    Mississauga, Ontario
    Canada, L4Y1X7
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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 6078
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/11/93  9:38p
Subj: my order                                Refer: NONE
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Howdy mike.... jsut wondering if you got my order off with no problems? I
ordered Peir 2&3.
(the name on the credit card was MIKE MACSWEEN to refreash your memory)

CJK

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 6079
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/11/93  8:15p
Subj: Review of Super Smutware                Refer: NONE
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                          SUPER SMUTWARE
                          ==============

Many thanks to Mike Shannon of Starvector for providing a copy of
the adult CD Super Smutware (SS) for review.  Like all of my
previous reviews, this one is available for FREQing or downloading
from file area #22 of this BBS (see tagline).  Guest downloads are
available by using the login ID of CD REVIEW.  No password will be
required.  The ZIPped file name for this review is S_SMUT.ZIP.

This review (all one post) contains four major sections: General -
Miscellaneous comments that didn't seem to belong in any other
section; Statistics - the quantitative, measurable characteristics
of the CD; Operations - a more qualitative analysis of the
"usability" aspects of the CD which tries to consider factors of
interest to both the sysop and the end-user; and Visual - a purely
qualitative opinion of the intrinsic qualities of the images
themselves.  Note that section boundaries are not inviolate.

To those of you who have read some of my previous reviews of adult
CDs, you will be familiar territory with this one as well.  If
you're a "new" reader, let me iterate: I am NOT an expert (whatever
that is) on adult (or any other kind of) CDs.  Accordingly, what
follows is ONE PERSON'S OPINION.

General
=======

SS is a "good news - bad news" adult CD. Keep that in mind as you
read through the review as you'll no doubt notice that the
"polarity" of my comments changes frequently.  Outwardly, SS doesn't
offer much to cheer about. There are no jewel case inserts, no
"registration card", no installation or setup instructions, in short
nothing save a small sticker on the back of the jewel case allowing
that the product came from Canada.  The "face" of the CD (this side
with the printing on it) goes a few steps further. Over an
asymmetrical five-pointed pinkish star are some letters proclaiming
the CD's name, words claiming "660 Mb", "NEVER SEEN!!!", and "BBS
READY", "Super VGA ONLY", and "1024X768". Now we're all guessing
that these words are referring to GIFs, but nowhere does it say so.
Then there's the curious phrase: "Adult Software 18 years or older".
At first reading, one is left wondering if that refers to the users,
the models in the scans, or the age of the "software" itself. As it
turns out, it probably means all three.

Lacking any other guidance, I fired up my favorite file handler and
discovered that the root directory, as well as a couple of
sub-directories, had some useful text files with some "get started"
information in them.  SS's producers apparently assumed that anyone
buying a product of this ilk (CD-ROM) must know their way around DOS
at least well enough to replicate my actions and discover how to get
started. We'll see how this is done in Operations. Suffice it to say
that I prefer at least a modicum of "bootstrap" instructions.

Statistics
==========

Tabulation of SS's contents found 660.9 Mb of which 657.9 Mb were
GIFs. There were 1138 GIFs found for an average size of a whopping
578 Kb.  Recall, the CD claims to have ALL 1024x768 scans, but even
so, this is a very healthy average size, and one that's not totally
deserved (see Visual). There are no 24-bit color scans nor any
"animation" files on the CD.

With respect to duplication, there were ZERO dups within the CD
itself as could be detected by either name or size inspection, nor
by a healthy length of viewing time.  Comparison of SS's file names
with the GIF name data base did reveal 13 duplicated titles in spite
of the "NEVER SEEN" claims on the CD's face.  Each of the 13 hits
did in fact prove out to be an EXACT duplicate, right down to the
BBS logo. Still, that's barely over 1% duplication so allegations of
re-hashing are hardly called for. The 13 hits were distributed as
follows:

        Seedy 6-Pak     6       7th Heaven      5
        BB/R1           0       BB/R3           0
        Ecstasy         0       FAO-2           0
        FAO-3           0       FAO-Gold        5
        PCPIX-1         0       PCPIX-2         0
        PCPIX-3         0       Visual Fan.     0
        Pork-1          3       Storm-3         0

Operations - Sysop
==================

This CD does indeed have some text files that describe the
individual GIFs. These files are included in each directory and have
the same name as the directory they appear in. Their contents are
the "two-line" format of file listings. These same listing also
appear in the \TEXT directory under the file names DIR1, DIR2, etc.
Not being a sysop, I'm not sure what format this "two-line" style
represents, but it includes the file size and date as well.  The CD
claims to be "BBS READY", but you might want to read the Visual
section before placing your order.

Operations - End User
=====================

As mentioned, there were no setup or install instructions with the
CD. The buyer is left to his/her own devices. In such circumstances
(and this wasn't the first), I always grab a file handler and poke
through the CD's contents looking for clues. That approach worked
here as well. The file "SUPERSMT.TXT" was found in the root
directory which, though brief, did point the way to the installation
and configuration of a copy of VPIC 6.0g which is included in it's
own directory. Further investigation revealed a additional "VIEWERS"
directory where several other graphic file viewers and manipulators
can be found.

However, if even that's a bit too much, if one already has a GIF
viewer configured for their system, a simple DOS TREE command will
list the 13 directories which can then be examined with said viewer.
This CD DOES NOT come with any sort of "front end", not even a
text-based one. However, it's worth noting that VPIC 6.0g has a
drive "scanning" feature which provides some elemental navigation
capabilities much in the manner ans style of CD-MENU.

The directories that have GIFs in them all have names that begin
with the letters "V2" (e.g. V22PED, V2CG, etc.).  Personally, I find
this a bit curious. The face of the CD clearly says "Vol. II" and
that fits with "V2". However, it stands to reason that there'd have
to be a "Super Smutware Vol. I" out there somewhere for this to be
"Vol. II". Well, there isn't. Now before anyone goes and says: "What
they meant was that the CD called "SMUTWARE" is really Volume I
therefore this is Volume II", consider the following.  Recall the
SUPERSMT.TXT file we spoke about? Well in there the producers (and I
use the plural liberally since the pronoun "I" is frequently used
therein), encourage us to "...watch for Smutware II and Super
Smutware II...". Now clearly, Gentle Reader, this point isn't as big
as a mole on a gnat's derriere. I bring it up ONLY to point out that
professional image suffers when even the smallest of things are
neglected. 'Nuff said.

Visual
======

Recall, I said that this was a "good news - bad news" CD-ROM. First,
the "good news". To begin, Corporate Graphics obviously owns an
excellent scanner and are expert at using it. I've seen VERY few CDs
whose images were as uniformly "tack sharp" scan after scan after
scan. It's also obvious that the scanner was actually set at a high
resolution. Too often I've seen scans that were claimed to be SVGA
when in fact they were originally much lower resolutions that had
only been opened and saved at a higher resolution. That is clearly
not the case with SS's scans.  They're gorgeous!


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Secondly, the photographs that were scanned were also obviously done
by professionals who really knew what they were doing. The
photography is excellent with few errors (like dual catch lights
[2PED_319] or awkward posing [2PED_329]) showing up in a few scans.
Excellent props (large fake fur in CG-1459), and imaginative
settings (photo studio in 2PED_302), beautiful models, etc. etc.
etc. all add up to a feast for the eyes.  Scan 2PED_357 is one of
the best "fireplace" shots I've ever seen. In short, the
overwhelming majority of the scans, in and of themselves, are
stunning.

Now the "bad news". I am extremely doubtful that SS's scans
represent anything remotely resembling a "licensed collection". It
seems more likely that the original photo sources were various adult
magazines.  There are "tell-tale" signs of this in several scans
such as CG_747 and CG_1001 where, for example, some text fragments
still show in the frame. Also, 2PED_254 is a scan of the adult
actress Kascha before her breast enlargement surgery (and that's
been a few years ago) and 2PED_369 is of her contemporary Victoria
Paris. It's very unlikely that the studios that hold the rights to
these ladies likenesses would permit them to be used in this way -
but not impossible. In all, these observances are typical of the
so-called "grassroots" scans which, according to recent posts in
this echo, should be approached very carefully by any sysop bent on
using them on a BBS.  On the other hand, if "grassroots" scans are
becoming a thing of the past, at least this collection is not the
same old tired set that we've seen time after time.

Secondly, a word about image size and backgrounds is in order. While
I did find a FEW full-screen images on the CD, most were about 1/2
screen in size. That is, they were centered in the screen, portrait
orientation, and reached from top to bottom. There is generally
about a 2" margin on either side of the scan as measured on my 15"
FS monitor. While this size scan wouldn't quality as "small",
they're far from "full screen". In photography, it's common to place
a small photo, say and 8x10, in a larger frame, say 11x14. To take
up the extra space around the photo, a "mat" - a piece of material,
usually heavy paper stock, sometimes colored to "pick up" the colors
in the photo - makes up the difference between the size of the photo
and the size of the frame.  On image CDs, "backgrounds" serve the
same purpose. It's not necessarily a bad practice. In fact, the
overall effect of the photo/scan can be enhanced by judicious use of
a complimentary mat/background.

While a goodly number of SS's scans had some sort of colored
background that didn't distract from the image, far too many did.
In fact, outside of the 150 or so scans in the two "2PED"
directories and backgroundless scans CG_285 through CG_432, most
scans had a rather garish, and sometimes downright annoying
background in them. The worst offenders of the "wrong background"
syndrome were the ones whose background looked as if a dozen or so
rolls of brightly colored foil wrapping paper had been laid
side-to-side, on the diagonal. Others had backgrounds that looked as
if a lot of swirl-colored bowling balls had been set side-by-side
"under" the scan. In this latter case, each "ball" had a dual catch
light reflection on it giving it an appearance rather like that of a
mouthless "happy face".  These two types, and others just as bad,
were used extensively - much to my distress and distraction from
viewing the scans.

Personally, I prefer NO background - just the natural "balckness" of
the screen.  If I can't have that, then I don't mind so much the
pastel backgrounds (no heavy patterns, please) that attempt to pick
up some color from within the scan. Alas, such was not the case with
many of SS's scans.  They were both hideous AND annoying.  It's also
certain that these backgrounds added unnecessary "bulk" to the image
sizes. If the producers had left the scans with just black (i.e.
none) backgrounds, they could've gotten more scans on the CD and
therefore given the CUSTOMERS more value for their money.

Finally, it should be noted that while the GREAT preponderance of
the scans would/could/should be called "T&A", there are a few scans
that qualify as "X" in anybody's book as well as a few that would be
"G" (no kidding). Having said that, it occurs to me that my "rating"
system is probably skewed from most others, so maybe stating it here
will help avoid confusion or disappointment:

        G - Non-nudity you can see most anywhere including "thong"
            bikinis and wet T-shirts.

        R - Any nudity including full frontal, but no genital
            touching.

   Hard R - Genital touching by same/different sex but no other
            visible sexual activity.

        X - Any visible sexual activity between same/different sex
            beyond touching.

Bottom lines for Super Smutware: If you're a sysop looking for an
adult CD for your callers, be careful and consider fully prior posts
on this echo on the topic of grassroots scans. I can't say for sure
whether this is a fully licensed collection or not, but my guess is,
it isn't.

If you're an end user and know your way around image CDs without the
aid of a no-brainer front end, this isn't a bad disc. The models are
gorgeous, the sets are great, the photos are excellent. However,
there's nothing here, subject-wise, you probably haven't seen
before. In fact SS in general is a LOT tamer than most of its kin.

If you're a collector and want to add to yuor grassroots collection
before availability goes down the tubes, you wouldn't be
disappointed - but remember my warning about the garish backgrounds.


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6081
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 10/13/93  3:41p
Subj: Re: Disk                                Refer: 9534
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> We received your check on 10/4/93 and your order was shipped arimail
-> 10/5/93.
->
-> As I stated to you, it takes 7 - 10 days to get to you, sometimes fas
-> depending on how busy customes is. I would think you should have your
-> any day now.

DO NOT use this echo to conduct "one on one" business.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6082
  To: CHRIS SLAICIUNAS                         Date: 10/13/93  3:42p
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: 9536
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->        Would anybody like to by some cd's for $7 apiece like Bobby Br
-> Bobby, Nirvana, Singles, Nine Inch Nails, Public Enemy, Tool, Beastie
-> Boys. Let me know.

Those are audio CDs... This is the CDROM_SALE echo.

tim
moderator
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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6083
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/11/93 11:01p
Subj: CD-ROM'S (NEW TITLES)                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following new cd-rom titles for sale.
1. 20th Century Video Almanac 25.00
2. Best of Microprobe 25.00
3. Chaos Fractals and Magic 30.00
4. Dinosaurs 30.00
5. Fractools 30.00
6. Fractunes 25.00
7. Gameware collection 25.00
8. Gardening 15.00
9. Guiness Disc of Records 1993 30.00
10.Legal Guide 15.00
11.Mad Dog Macree 40.00
12.Multimedia Audio Collection 30.00
13.Newsweek Interactive 25.00
14.Pier 3 30.00
15.Precision Mapping  79.00
16.Publishers Paradise 25.00
17.Reel Clips 30.00
18.Sleeping Beauty 20.00
19.Soundware Collection 25.00
20.Space Shuttle 25.00
21.Win Platinum  25.00
-------------------------------------------------
SHIPPING $5.00 FLAT FEE
SEND CHECK OR MONEY ORDERS TO:
STEVE GREENO
1275 E. PRINCE
TUCSON AZ. 85719
FAX # 1-602-292-0497

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From: GARETH LLOYD                           Number: 6084
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/10/93  8:06p
Subj: Looking for Creative Labs CD16 Upgrade Kit  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi All,

I will be staying in Washington and Denver, Colorado during Christmas on
holiday, and I was wondering if anybody in either of these two regions could
give me some prices and shop names + addresses were I can buy the Creative Labs
CD16 Upgrade Kit and/or the Night Owl 10 Shareware CD (Or 11 if it is out yet),
plus any other *GOOD* shareware CD's there.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
- Gareth

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6085
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/12/93  1:32a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG                          Refer: NONE
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CD-ROM TITLE                             PRICE
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1001 UTILITIES...........................10.00
ABOUT COWS...............................30.00
ADVENTURES IN HEAVEN.....................15.00
ADVENTURES OF WILLY BEAMISH..............20.00
AIRCRAFT ENCYCLOPEDIA,THE................30.00
AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONE BOOK.............25.00
ANECDOTES VOL.1..........................15.00
ANECDOTES VOL.2..........................15.00
ANECDOTES VOL.3..........................15.00
ANIMALS..................................25.00
ARTHUR'S TEACHER TROUBLE.................30.00
AUDUBON'S BIRDS..........................25.00
AUDUBON'S MAMMALS........................25.00
BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SCHOOL...............20.00
BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SPACE................20.00
BATTLE CHESS.............................20.00
BEAUTY AND THE BEAST.....................20.00
BIBLE LIBRARY............................30.00
BIBLES & RELIGION........................15.00
BUSINESS ASSISTANT.......................10.00
BUSINESS MASTER..........................20.00
C USERS GROUP LIBRARY....................30.00
CALIFORNIA COLLECTION....................10.00
CAMERON'S FINE ART CATALOG...............40.00
CAREER OPPORTUNIES.......................30.00
CHESSMASTER M/M..........................20.00
CIA WORLD FACT BOOK......................25.00
CIA WORLD FACT BOOK M/M..................30.00
CICA WINDOWS DISK........................20.00
CLIPART GOLIATH..........................15.00
CLIPART HEAVEN...........................15.00
COATES ART REVIEW : IMPRESSIONISM........30.00
COMPLETE BOOKSHOP........................15.00
COMPOSER QUEST...........................35.00
CONSUMER INFORMATION DISC................30.00
COOKBOOK HEAVEN..........................15.00
DANGER HOT STUFF.........................15.00
DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLES.................15.00
DESKTOP BOOKSHOP.........................15.00
DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES.................15.00
DINOSAUR ADVENTURE.......................30.00
EDUCATION MASTER.........................20.00
ELECTRONIC COOKBOOK......................35.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA MPC VER.1...................50.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA MULTI-MEDIA VER.5...........50.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUND....................15.00
EUROPEAN MONARCHS........................30.00
FAMILY DOCTOR............................25.00
FONT MASTER TWO..........................20.00
FONT MASTER..............................10.00
FONTS FOR THE PROFESSIONAL...............25.00
FRESH ARTE...............................30.00


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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6086
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/12/93  1:33a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG PAGE 2                   Refer: NONE
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CD-ROM TITLE                             PRICE
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GAME ARENA...............................10.00
GAME MASTER..............................20.00
GAME PACK II.............................30.00
GARBO MSDOS/MAC..........................20.00
GIFS GALORE..............................20.00
GREAT CITIES VOLUME 1....................30.00
GREAT CITIES VOLUME 2....................30.00
HAM RADIO................................15.00
HAMCALL..................................40.00
HOLY BIBLE,THE...........................20.00
HOSPITALITY INDEX........................30.00
INTERACTIVE STORY TIME 1.................20.00
INTERACTIVE STORY TIME 2.................20.00
INTERNATIONAL BUSIN. & ECON. ATLAS.......20.00
J SCHUMACHER'S NEW PRAGUE COOKBOOK.......30.00
JETS & PROPS.............................30.00
JOKES & PRANKS...........................10.00
JONES IN THE FAST LANE...................20.00
KGB WORLD FACT BOOK......................30.00
KINGS QUEST V............................20.00
KLOTSKI..................................25.00
KODAK PHOTO CD ACCESS SOFTWARE...........20.00
LANGUAGES OF THE WORLD...................40.00
LEARNING ADVENTURE.......................10.00
LEARNING HEAVEN..........................15.00
LIBRIS BRITANIA..........................40.00
LOOM.....................................20.00
MACMILLAN DICTIONARY FOR CHILDREN........30.00
MAGAZINE RACK............................30.00
MAVIS BACON TEACHES TYPING M/M...........25.00
MAYO CLINIC..............................25.00
MIDDLE EAST DIARY........................30.00
MIDI MUSIC SHOP..........................25.00
MIXED-UP MOTHER GOOSE....................20.00
MONKEY ISLAND............................30.00
MOTHER OF ALL CLIPART....................15.00
MPC WIZARD...............................20.00
MS DOS ARCHIVES (SIMTEL 20)..............20.00
NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC MAMMALS..............30.00
NATIONAL PARKS...........................25.00
NORTH AMERICAN FACIMILE (FAX) BOOK.......30.00
NORTH AMERICAN INDIANS...................30.00
OFFICER'S BOOKCASE.......................30.00
ORIGINAL SHAREWARE.......................10.00
OS/2 ARCHIVES............................20.00
OUR SOLAR SYSTEM.........................15.00
PC-SIG VERSION 11........................20.00
PC-SIG VERSION 12........................25.00
PC-SIG WORLD OF GAMES....................15.00
PC-SIG HOME & BUSINESS COLLECTION........10.00
PC-SIG WORLD OF WINDOWS..................15.00
PENTAMINOES..............................28.00


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  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/12/93  1:34a
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CD-ROM TITLE                             PRICE
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PETER AND THE WOLF.......................20.00
PHARMACIST GUIDE TO DRUGS................30.00
PIXEL GARDEN.............................30.00
PLANT DOCTOR.............................30.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--FRENCH...........35.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--GERMAN...........35.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--ENGLISH..........35.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--JAPANESE.........35.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--SPANISH..........35.00
PROGRAMMER'S ROM.........................30.00
PROJECT GUTENBURG........................20.00
PUBLIQUE ARTE............................30.00
PUBLISH-IT...............................25.00
Q & A....................................50.00
QRZ HAM RADIO............................20.00
RBBS IN A BOX VERSION 3.1................30.00
REFERENCE LIBRARY........................20.00
ROGER EBERT MOVIE COMPANION..............30.00
SCOUNTING REPORT 92......................30.00
SEALS OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.............30.00
SECRET WEAPONS OF THE LUFTWAFFE..........30.00
SELECTWARE...............................10.00
SHAKESPEARE..............................20.00
SHAREWARE GOLD II VOL.2 #1...............30.00
SHAREWARE HEAVEN.........................15.00
SHAREWARE ONLINE.........................25.00
SHAREWARE ONLINE VOL.#2..................25.00
SHERLOCK CONSULTING DETECTIVE............20.00
SHERLOCK HOLMES..........................20.00
SO MUCH SCREENWARE.......................30.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 2......................15.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3......................25.00
SOFTWARE VAULT VOL.2.....................15.00
SOUND SENSATIONS.........................15.00
SOURCE CD-ROM............................20.00
SPACE ADVENTURE..........................30.00
SPACE QUEST IV...........................20.00
SPACE SERIES-APOLLO......................30.00
STELLER 7................................20.00
STRAIGHT FROM HEAVEN.....................15.00
STREET ATLAS USA.........................95.00
TAO OF COW...............................30.00
TECHNOTOOLS..............................15.00
TEMPRA PHOTO CD ACCESS SOFTWARE..........20.00
TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES.................30.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-SCIENCE............25.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-BUS.& POLITICS.....25.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-ARTS & ENTERTAIN...25.00
TOO MANY TYPEFONTS.......................12.00
U.S. ATLAS M/M...........................20.00
U.S. ATLAS WITH AUTOMAP..................25.00
U.S. CIVICS..............................30.00


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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6088
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/12/93  1:34a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG PAGE 4                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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U.S. HISTORY.............................35.00
U.S. PRESIDENTS..........................30.00
U.S./WORLD ATLAS.........................22.00
U.S.A. STATE FACTBOOK,THE................30.00
U.S.A. WARS:CIVIL WAR....................30.00
U.S.A. WARS:DESERT STORM.................30.00
U.S.A. WARS:KOREA........................30.00
U.S.A. WARS:VIETNAM......................30.00
U.S.A. WARS:WORLD WAR II.................30.00
VGA SPECTRUM.............................10.00
VGA SPECTRUM 2...........................20.00
VISIONS OF SATURN........................30.00
WHERE IS CARMEN SAN DIEGO................30.00
WILD PLACES..............................20.00
WINDOWARE................................15.00
WINDOWS MASTER...........................20.00
WING COMMANDER / ULTIMA VI...............25.00
WORLD ATLAS M/M..........................20.00
WORLD OF FLIGHT..........................35.00
WORLD OF TRAINS..........................35.00
WORLD TRAVELER...........................15.00
WORLD VIEW...............................20.00
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*** NEW TITLES *** NEW TITLES *** NEW TITLES ***
20TH CENTURY VIDEO ALMANAC...............25.00
BEST OF MICROPROSE.......................25.00
CHAOS FRACTALS AND MAGIC.................30.00
DINOSAURS................................30.00
FRACTOOLS................................30.00
FRACTUNES................................30.00
GAMEWARE COLLECTION......................25.00
GARDENING................................15.00
GUINESS DISC OF RECORDS 1993.............30.00
LEGAL GUIDE..............................15.00
MAD DOG MACREE...........................40.00
MULTIMEDIA AUDIO COLLECTION..............30.00
NEWSWEEK INTERACTIVE.....................25.00
PIER 3...................................30.00
PRECISION MAPPING........................79.00
PUBLISHERS PARADISE......................25.00
REEL CLIPS...............................30.00
SLEEPING BEAUTY..........................20.00
SOUNDWARE COLLECTION.....................25.00
SPACE SHUTTLE............................25.00
WIN PLATINUM.............................25.00


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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6089
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/12/93  1:35a
Subj: CD-ROM ORDER FORM                       Refer: NONE
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SIGNATURE REQUIRED FOR ADULT CD-ROM'S ONLY (21 OR OLDER)

SEND ALL ORDERS TO: JANE GREENO
2508 AVENIDA REGULO
TUCSON AZ. 85710   FAX # 1-602-292-0497


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From: MIKE DEMSKI                            Number: 6090
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/12/93  2:53a
Subj: Programmer's CD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for a computer programmer's CD (Especially C/C++ languages). Anyone
out there know of one full of programmer's goodies?  Thanks in advance.
 
Mike

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From: CHET HART                              Number: 6091
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 10/11/93  6:14p
Subj: CD-ROM for trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm sorry, but the "Legends of Porn 2" disk has been traded. Maybe next time.
73, Chet
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6092
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/08/93  8:45p
Subj: gettin' in step                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

One of FidoNet's RCs has voiced concern regarding the commercial traffic
that flows thru this echo... And he's right.  This message will explain
the problem so that it won't happen in the future.

To the letter of FidoNet's policy, commercial advertising in an echo
is prohibited.  The reality is that FidoNet *tolerates* commercial
traffic as long as it's done in moderation and meets the echo's
intent.  There's a point where messages exit the toleration zone.

The reason commercial advertising isn't officially allowed is a good
one:  The amatuers who operate (and pay for) this network shouldn't have
to absorb the costs of putting money into someone else's pocket. And
that's fair enough.

We've ventured outside of the toleration zone.  Some vendors are
using this echo to conduct "one on one" business with their
customers - posts that don't "benefit everyone".  These type messages
will no longer be tolerated.

Example:      FS>> I just got the XYZ disc.  I love it
              FS>> and think it's great.  Thanks for
              FS>> being born.

              Hello, Fred... I'm glad we could be of service
              to you.  Call me anytime if you need any more
              CDs.  We love to make people happy and sell
              them CDs.  Call me anytime and we'll be happy
              to make you happy again. Thank you. Bend over.

              Thanks,
              Joe Vendor

Or something like that <seg>... ANYHOW, let's put a stop to "one on one"
type messages.  If you have any comments, I can be reached at the
numbers below.

tim
moderator

Voice : 404-621-9210
FAX   : 404-621-9122
BBS   : 404-491-1405
FIDO  : 1:133/515


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6093
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/09/93  2:27p
Subj: Inside tip                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Don't you love this echo for it's ability to get information out to a
-> range of users and publishers etc--Well, for all the closet publisher

And we appreciate your input :)

tim
moderator


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6094
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 10/09/93  2:46p
Subj: Queer                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hello Ismail!

Dave, that's too much... Post one more message like that & you're out of
here.  EOT.

tim
moderator


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6095
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 10/09/93  2:48p
Subj: EOT                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DO NOT continue this thread with DR.

tim
moderator


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6096
  To: MARC LIMMANY                             Date: 10/11/93  6:08a
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Mike...
-> I was wondering if you received my order.  I think I sent if off on
-> 10/2/93.  It's been a while, and I was wondering where the cds where.
->
-> Thanks.
->
-> Marc Limmany
-> The Tech Source
-> 1:301/29

Marc, please don't post "one on one" messages like this.

tim
moderator


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6097
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 10/11/93  6:14a
Subj: Thanks                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Mike, just got the order today for those two disks that I asked for,
-> thanks, they are great, and once again, superb service, didn't even h
-> to pick up the phone !!!!!!  Did you get my message about the Street
-> Atlas 2 ???? Thanks again for the quick service.

Foul!

Please don't post "one on one" type messages...

tim
moderator


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6098
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 10/11/93  6:16a
Subj: audio cd's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Is it okay to advertise audio cd's here? I haven't seen the rules as

No.  There's already an echo for that purpose... It's called CD_ECHO.

tim
moderator


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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 6099
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 10/11/93  9:21p
Subj: Lowest CD-Rom Prices Yet!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jim,

Does Night Owl make a windows only shareware CD?? If so, how much?

Ron


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From: JACK HUDDLE                            Number: 6100
  To: BOB ROSOL                                Date: 10/11/93  8:21p
Subj: DESIGNER 4.0 on CD- CHEAP               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

--- BR>LATEST Micrografx DESIGNER 4.0

BR>FULL version - NOT an upgrade!

BR>Complete: All disks
BR>          All Documentation
BR>          Photo Magic retouching pkg (lists for $150!).
BR>          Adobe Type Manager 2.5
BR>          CD ROM w/ program, fonts, clipart
BR>          NO Reg card


BR>> BEST OFFER OVER $100 <
BR>412-761-9090  fax: 412-766-3299

Bob! I'll Take it for that if you include shipping? you have my address
here in pickerington, Ohio. If Okay let me know and the check is on the
way.....Jack By the way I got the Corel3 Artshow Package.....

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From: JAMES BROWN                            Number: 6101
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 10/11/93  9:59a
Subj: PIER 3 FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> ALSO HAVE FREE CD-ROM CATALOG WITH OVER 200 TITLES.
Do you have any CD's with large database/dbase shareware selections?


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From: GARY KIMBRELL                          Number: 6102
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 10/11/93  1:31p
Subj: CD-ROM'S FOR SALE                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > FREE CD-ROM CATALOG---OVER 200 TITLES
 > FREE SHIPPING
 > WHOLESALE PRICES
 > LEAVE MESSAGE OR WRITE TO:
 > STEVE GREENO
 > 2239 E. BROADWAY
 > TUCSON AZ. 85719
 > FAX # 1-602-292-0497

Send a Catalog to:

Bodega Bay BBS
% Gary Kimbrell
P.O. Box 5023
Fort McClellan, Alabama 
                  36205

Gary
NEC3657

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From: GARY KIMBRELL                          Number: 6103
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 10/11/93  1:36p
Subj: Budget Cd's 4 sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >         CD-ROM DISC'S (USED):
 >         Hot Pix 3               $35.00 or B/O
 >         Storm II                $35.00 or B/O
 >         Asian Ladies            $35.00 or B/O
 >         No reasonable offers refused!

Offer: $15.00 each + S&H/COD!

Gary
NEC3657

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From: BILL PEARSON                           Number: 6104
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/11/93  9:59a
Subj: Night Owl's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Doug, can you give me a package price for Nightowl 8, 9 & 10? 
 
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From: BILL PEARSON                           Number: 6105
  To: CHET HART                                Date: 10/11/93 10:09a
Subj: CD-ROM for trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CH>   I'm willing to trade the adult CD-ROM "Legends of Porn 
Chet I have a few I'd be willing to trade 
 
1) The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia - Groliers 
   Nice Multimedia Encyclopedia w/ great sound and animation  91-92 
 
2) The New Groiler Electronic Encyclopedia - 1991 
   Not true multimedia, a couple sound files, good search, nice 
   Basic ROM encyclopedia. 
 
   Will add with the New Groiler 
                            1) Software Toolworks Reference Library 
                                              OR 
                            2) Microsoft Bookshelf 
                                       (neither multimedia) 
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From: BILL PEARSON                           Number: 6106
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 10/11/93 10:18a
Subj: CLIPART CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ron, I can't reccomend a good one but I can reccomend a cheap one. 
Chestnuts " Clipart Goliath". It can be bought for 10 - 12 $$. I have a 
copy and it carries 13,000 pics in pcx and tiff format. It's not great 
but for 10 bucks it was more than worth it. 
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From: BILL PEARSON                           Number: 6107
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 10/11/93 10:28a
Subj: Night Owl $29                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KP>                  N i g h t   O w l   10.0 
Please give me a combo price on NO 8,9 & 10. 
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From: ANDREW SCHNEIDER                       Number: 6108
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 10/11/93  3:41p
Subj: CD-ROM Catalog!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would also like to receive your catalog.  You can mail it to:

Andrew Schneider
766 Sherman Road
Chillicothe, OH  45601

          Thanks.


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From: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                       Number: 6109
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/29/93  9:57p
Subj: Borland Database Software Blowout!!     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Only a few complete kits left:
Factory Fresh, Unopened, Unregistered, Unused, Brand New.

The number 1 database programs from Borland:

dBase IV Version 2.0 for DOS  Retail 799, Mail Order 399, Me 159
Paradox for Windows 3.x       Retail 399, Mail Order 139, Me 79

Increase your career potential and learn these professional packages!

Voice orders only: 716-652-3913 message, Sysops can Netmail below address.

Trades for Current Hardware, including SCSI devices considered.
7 dollars shipping UPS Ground. Check or Money Orders, no CODs.

*** Bonus: LINKS The Challenge of Golf, with any dBase IV order  ***
***        Trivial Pursuit Daily Planner, with any Paradox order ***

WHILE THEY LAST WHILE THEY LAST WHILE THEY LAST WHILE THEY LAST WHILE THEY

Sysop for Sale conference: additional 10% discount- netmail only!

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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 6110
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 10/12/93  7:14p
Subj: Shareware Online 2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Shareware Online 2.

 > Info such as total mb, file dates, what is the going price,
 > etc.
 > Has any used this disc or Shareware Online 1?

Have them both - got them by total accident.
Using #2 on my BBS right now.  Took a while to set up - it doesn't have the
nice, automatic set-up that Cream of the Crop has.  ( I was running that
before.)
All the files seem to be true 1993.  It's 600 megs +, and over 4500 files.  Has
a directory of BBS ANSI screens, and two of BBS doors and related files.
It has an unusual assortment of files on it - not the usual files that I've
seen on the boards here in upstate NY - scout tracking programs, Mel Odious
goes 6 string searching, etc.  Few educational or hobby files, but a nice game
assortment.  It's going for $30, and I think that's a tad pricey.  But that's
just my humble opinion, cause I got Cream of the Crop for $19 - an excellent
price for a brand-new shareware CD.

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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 6111
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/13/93 12:04a
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Doug,
        I havn't seen an answer to this yet, so I thought I'd post it again.

Doug,

 > I have checked with the US Postal Service and they show your order as
 > being received on September 28, 1993 at 2 P.M. which is 4 days from the
 > day it was sent inclusive.  Now, why did you send me another nasty
 > message?

          That wasn't a nasty message and the reason it was sent
was because my order had not arrived.  Let's get some FACTS
straight here Doug:-

1)  My order was placed on 17th August and read, presumably by you,
on the 19th of august.

2)  On the 6th of september you published a new price list.

3)  My order was not dealt with until 25th of September.

          As an aside to this, I think you will find that YOU are
REQUIRED, under laws dealing with mail order, to inform the
customer if the order cannot be filled within 30 days, when the new
shipping date will be and offer cancellation of order. This did NOT
happen.  As to your point about "reducing your prices", I doubt
that it would have been possible to charge the original price
(legally) so you are offering me nothing but air.

4)  As the order was late, you shipped it out, PARTIALLY filled,
EXPRESS MAIL.

          Now the express mail is a nice idea, except that it gets
me involved with customs and that you ALLOWED me, the customer, to
pay $25,- for the privilege.

          Shipping out the customers order, because of YOUR error,
at THE CUSTOMER's ADDITIONAL expense is an intolorable business
practice.  Do you see NOW why I am more than slightly annoyed?  Do
you believe NOW that it's justified?  If not, then feel free to
delay other people's order and then stick them with a $25,-
shipping fee and see how long you stay in business.


                                                   Cheers,

P.S.  I notice that the 5th CD, which was ordered, was advertised
in your price list published on 6th of September AND in the last
price list published, but still hasn't been shipped.

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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 6112
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/12/93 11:33a
Subj: CD's for trade....                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Have the following CD's for trade--
1.  2 copies of 7th Guest, not OEM version, has the video.
2.  Lotus 123 Multimedia.
3.  One Compton's Encyclopedia.
4.  Macro Mind Action ver 1.01.
5.  Wing Commander 2 Deluxe.
Would like to trade for some nice adult CD's and a couple of bucks, except for
Compton's and Lotus, which I expect more for.  Will take cash offers, but
please, no more shareware (shovelware) disks.....
Thanks.

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From: TOM HUNT                               Number: 6113
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/12/93 11:19a
Subj: Hot Pix                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for the Hot Pix Vol 1 made by the Windy City folks
does anyone have a copy they would like to sell..looking for the best price
leave number so I can get in touch
thanks


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From: BRAD PAYNTER                           Number: 6114
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 10/11/93  4:59p
Subj: Re: bbabes for sale or t                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-= On 10-08-93, Eddie said to Brad =-

EP> -=> Quoting Brad Paynter to All <=-

EP> BP> Hi there-
EP> BP> I've got a copy of Busty Babes, not to sure whether it's volume
EP> BP> one or not, but since there is no volume number on it, I have to
EP> BP> assume it is. I'd like to trade it for a good map disk or a
EP> BP> shareware disk or two. Of course I'll take dead presidents if
EP> BP> that's all you've got. Leave a note here and I'll get back to
EP>you. 
EP>I have the dead presidents if you want it.

Hi Eddie - 
Great! Fifty bucks or there abouts and it's yours. The disk does say 
volume 1 on it.

Peace

  Brad
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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 6115
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 10/12/93  1:26a
Subj: FREE CD-ROM CATALOG                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > SEND FOR YOUR FREE CD-ROM CATALOG

Chris Bourne
1526 Ramblewood Ct.
Adrian, MI 49221

Thanks...

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From: TED KIDD                               Number: 6116
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/12/93 10:41a
Subj: CD's on a Novell Servere                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC> You need one of the software packages like SCSI Express.

Do you carry this item?
And, how much is it (I bet it is outragous!?)
Thanks for the info... 

Ted
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From: LOUIS SOKOL                            Number: 6117
  To: RICHARD SKANDIS                          Date: 10/13/93  1:12a
Subj: NEC 3X/4X CDROM DRVS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RS> Does anyone know the street price of the NEC 3x/4x drives that were 
RS> announced last week in Infoworld? The article gave $600 for the 
RS> external version of the 3x drive and $900 for the 4x drives. The 
RS> access time onthese drives was 200ms. Thanks for any info you may 
RS> have. Rich

I will be able to sell the 3XE at $595 when I get them in stock towards the end
of the month.  If you are interested, call JET Computer Services @713/265-1010
or fax @713/980-9435. 

They sound like great drives!  The transfer rate is 450 Kb/sec, the access time
is 195 ms and the Burst Transfer Rate is 4.0 Mb/sec (sync).  The cache is 256
Kb and the drive is Kodak Multisession Photo CD, MPC Level 2 and Quicktime
compatible.  There is a 2 year limited warranty.  It will also attach to the
Enhanced Parallel to SCSI (epp) interface, eliminating the need for an
interface card inside the PC. 

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From: LEWIS BULLARD                          Number: 6118
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/12/93  3:57p
Subj: SALE OR TRADE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Have a few items I need to get rid of. All items guaranteed against DOA.

Magnavox CDD 461 CDrom. Light use, external, plays audio cds without
software, slow but good for bbs. Will include 5 cd's of shareware $250

Toshiba 42 meg MFM 3.5 hard drive with 5.25 mounting bracket

Shareware Extravaganza 4 cd's 25,000 programs

Sigcat 1992 software showcase, mostly DB stuff includes Wordperfect
5.1 manual, online bible among others.

Harvard Graphics for Windows, All manuals and letter to transfer reg

Logetech scanman 32 greyscale with paintshop

Kaypro II luggable computer with softcase, dual floppie, mono monitor
lots of cp/m software $75

AT&T business phone system, comkey, intercomm, speakerphone, 8 phones
with up to eight lines each $100

4 256x9 100ns simms

Professor Windows, learn windows at your own pace, box, dox and 5.25
only

Microprose F-19 Stealth Fighter, box, dox, reg, 5.25

Make offer on all items. Will consider trades on most. Am looking for
scsi controller with ext. ports, external scsi cases with cables,
Trantor parallel to scsi adapter, 14.4 ext. fax modem, reference cd's.

                    Lewis 405-357-5942



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From: PAT RILEY                              Number: 6119
  To: MARK SMITH                               Date: 10/07/93  6:17a
Subj: CD-ROM SOFTWARE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->1:116/109
MS**To all:
  **        I'm starting a new business and I am interested in selling CD softw
  **as part of my services.  Any vendors interested please send me information
  **prices or where I can send for this information.  Also, I would like to kno
  **what kind of CD software has been the most popular lately.

Mark;

Send me an address and I will get the latest dealer price list out.

 * QMPro 1.51 * Money is the root of all evil, and man needs roots.

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From: DAVID ROBERTS                          Number: 6120
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/12/93  7:57p
Subj: 4 CD-Rom Drives 4-Sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For Sale

Four (4) Hitachi CD-Rom drives, model 3500.  These are the same ones Terry
Blount sells here (I actually bought them from him about 3 months ago).
They come with a controller card that will handle all four drives.  Average
access is around 600ms and 150 sustained transfer rate.  These are great
for a BBS, I know they've been on mine the last three months.  If
interested, please call 808-624-1293 or leave a message here.  Thanks.


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From: MARCIAL MORENO                         Number: 6121
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/13/93  6:38p
Subj: Nightowl 10 is here                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                                CD-ROM DISC's

                  Nightowl 10 ................... $34.50ea
                  Software Vault Vol 2........... $21.00ea
                  Phoenix Vol 4 ................. $24.00ea
                  Shareware Studio III .......... $30.00ea
                  SoundWav I .................... $27.00ea
                  Super Smutware Vol 2 .......... $27.00ea
                  Local Girls 3 in 1 CD ......... $26.00ea
                  Island Girls 3 in 1 CD ........ $26.00ea

    ******* All prices include shipping and handling in the USA ********
                      CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS ADD 8.25% TAX

                          Check or Money orders to:
                          Mega-ROM SoftWare
                          13724 Saranac Dr.
                          Whittier, CA  90605-4229
                          (310) 941-8074

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From: BRIAN ELFERT                           Number: 6122
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/12/93  6:09p
Subj: CD's on a Novell Servere                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  TK> Does anyone know how to mount CD-Rom drives on a
->  TK> Novell file server (using Novell Version 3.11).
->  TK> Please list any available info you may have (products and prices
->  TK> Thanks
->
-> You need one of the software packages like SCSI Express.

Upgrading to Novell 3.12 would also work.

Brian


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From: MICHIAL THOMPSON                       Number: 6123
  To: BILL MILLER                              Date: 10/13/93  8:58a
Subj: CD Rom For Sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BILL MILLER wrote in a message to MICHIAL THOMPSON:

 BM> I'll give you $125 and pay shipping. Do we have a deal?
 BM> Write me via this net.
 BM>           Bill Miller

Sorry it took me so long to get back to you, I went on a bus. trip. 

I want to appoligize, I have sold the cd-rom drive.

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From: ROB O'DELL                             Number: 6124
  To: JOHN LOVING                              Date: 10/12/93  6:58p
Subj: Nec Portable Cd-Rom                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL> Rob, How about a phone number so we can talk turkey. I might
JL> be interested


313-289-2819...  $99.00 firm.  30 day warranty.

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From: ROB O'DELL                             Number: 6125
  To: PO-I LI                                  Date: 10/12/93  7:00p
Subj: NEC Portable CD-ROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PL> Hi, this is po-i Li. Your price seems nice. How about the
PL> access time and tranfer rate of your cd-rom drive? My SCSiI
PL> card is Adaptec AHA-1520, is that can fit your cd-rom drive?
PL> Thanks for clarification.

500ms spec but 400ms average.  150k transfer rate.  Will work with any Adaptec
card.

$99.00 firm, 30 day warranty.

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From: ANISH ACHARYA                          Number: 6126
  To: CHRIS SLAICIUNAS                         Date: 10/12/93  7:30p
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Lemme know what RAP you have ....

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From: SYLVAIN DESCHAMPS                      Number: 6127
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 10/12/93  5:19p
Subj: CD-ROM'S FOR SALE                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

OK.  My name is Sylvain Deschamps and I'm a reseller.  If you can, please send
me your catalog AS SOON as possible since I don't have a CD-ROM supplier and a
LOT of users on  my bulletin board want to buy CD's.  

CD Info
Attn: Sylvain Deschamps
129 Cardinal
Longueuil, Qc, Canada
J4L 4S8


Thank's
Sylvain

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From: SYLVAIN DESCHAMPS                      Number: 6128
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 10/12/93  5:22p
Subj: Lowest CD-Rom Prices Yet!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm a reseller and would like to receive one of your catalog.  PLEASE include
the fee for delivery in Canada.  If you can please include a example like:

Night Owl's v10 -> 39$ + 5$ shipping in Canada via xxx + 2$ taxes... Anyway! 
Waiting for your news!  Thank's.  Anyways, if you can please post me a message
on how it will work if I order the Night Owl's v10.  (shipping, sales tax,
etc...  Visa?  MasterCard?)  

Thank's.

Sylvain

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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 6129
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/12/93 10:36p
Subj: BUSTY BABES 1                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

INTERESTED IN BUYING OR TRADING FOR BUSTY BABES 1 CD.  LET ME KNOW IF YOU'D
LIKE TO MAKE A DEAL.  (I HAVE A LOT OF BASEBALL AND HOCKEY CARDS IF
INTERESTED.)

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 6130
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/13/93  8:43p
Subj: NEW CDROM arrivals at PCJ               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Doug,
Do you have the complete address for Sexy Cd Software?

I need it if you do, thanks.

                            Mike Harris

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 6131
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 10/13/93  7:28a
Subj: Re: FREQable CD Reviews                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Arnie, you're welcome to freq and and load on your BBS as far as I'm 
concerned. The Hard Disc Cafe is not *MY* BBS - it belongs to Dan  Guillory
here in Houston. I don't "sysop" any board - just a user of them  (:> 
Your idea of putting the reviews up on several boards around the country  so
that non-freq'ers don't have to pay toll charges is a good one;  perhaps other
sysops will/have already thought of/done that for their  users.  
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 6132
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 10/13/93  7:34p
Subj: Re: FREQable CD Reviews                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Super Smutware will be/is #11. Total Fantasy will be #12. High Volume Nudes
will be #13. All should be up here after this weekend.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 6133
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/13/93  9:11p
Subj: Review of Total Fantasy                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                       TOTAL FANTASY
                       =============

Many thanks to Mike Shannon of Starvector in Yakima, WA for
providing a copy of the adult CD Total Fantasy (TF) for review.
Like all of my previous reviews, this one is available for FREQing
(Node ID: 1:106/30) or downloading (713-589-2690 to 14.4) from file
area #22 of the Hard Disc Cafe BBS in Houston, TX .  Other boards
may carry them as well - ask your sysop. Guest downloads from The
Hard Disc Cafe are available by using the login ID of CD REVIEW.  No
password will be required.  The ZIPped file name for this review is
T_FANTSY.ZIP.

This review contains four major sections: General - Miscellaneous
comments that didn't seem to belong in any other section; Statistics
- more quantitative, measurable characteristics of the CD;
Operations - a more qualitative analysis of the "usability" aspects
of the CD which tries to consider factors of interest to both the
sysop and the end-user; and Visual - a purely qualitative opinion of
the intrinsic qualities of the images themselves.  Note that section
boundaries are not inviolate.

To those of you who have read some of my previous reviews of adult
CDs, you will be familiar territory with this one as well.  If
you're a "new" reader, let me iterate: I am NOT an expert (whatever
that is) on adult (or any other kind of) CDs.  Accordingly, what
follows is ONE PERSON'S OPINION.

General
=======

This CD will make you see red! Quite literally. The back portion of
the jewel case is red, the front cover insert is red, the face of
the CD itself is red, and the contents will surely turn you red
either from blushing (yeah, right!) or (more likely) from having
paid good money for a mediocre product.

The front cover touts "Total Fantasy disc 1" (sic) as a product of
Denmark apparently produced by an outfit calling itself "STC CDROM".
Frankly, I expected more from a company in a country that has given
the world so many beautiful people and ideas, not to mention Victor
Borge. The cover goes on to advertise "Over 3750 Gifs!!" - I counted
3752 and "Over 220 Animations!!" - I counted 227. The back of the
insert has some installation and use instructions which I'll cover
later in Operations. However, other than the somewhat obtuse
statement "This disc contains Fantasy Pictures and Animations" on
the face of the CD, there's no "adult material" warning anywhere to
be found. There is no rear jewel case insert. Compared to some of
the more professionally produced artwork (e.g. Busty Babes, Ecstasy,
Southern Beauties, etc.), TF's "artwork" leaves a lot to be desired.

Statistics
==========

TF is a very "full" CD (full of what we'll talk more about later).
As said, I counted 3752 GIFs, 227 ZIPped animation files, and 19
Targa (TGA) files which were also ZIPped. Include the now usual
\UTILS and \VIEWERS, add a few \GAMES, and TF gobbles up a whopping
620 Mb of CD-ROM real estate.

I found NO duplicated file names on TF. That doesn't necessarily
mean that there are no duplicated images - but it's unlikely that
many exist. However, with such a large number of images, it's
practically impossible (at least for me) to completely verify this
computer-derived statistic.

Comparison of TF's file names with my "grassroots" GIF name data
base showed 2160 hits. The distribution of hits was as follows:

     Seedy 6-Pak     1413                    7th Heaven     39
     BB1/R1           182                    BB1/R3        197
     Ecstasy          737                    FAO-2         283
     FAO-3            301                    FAO-Gold      213
     PCPIX-1          264                    PCPIX-2        77
     PCPIX-3            2                    Visual Fan.   271
     Pork-1           114                    Storm-3       257

That comparison left 1592 potentially "new" files.  Even if this
number stands up (it doesn't - see Visual), that still ciphers out
to a 58% re-hash rate - intolerable for a new CD in today's era of
licensed collections.

Operations - Sysop
==================

There are both FILES.BBS and FILES.BB1 files in each of the
directories save \UTILS and \VIEWERS. The .BBS files are in the true
format; the .BB1 files include a (640X480X256) entry between the
file name and the description. How BBS ready this makes it, sysops
can judge. Ready or not, it's worth your while to read on before
deciding to add this one to your downloadable stockpile.

Operations - End User
=====================

Of all considered aspects of TF, installation and operation emerge
as its strongest points. The back of the front cover has a rather
complete and accurate set of installation and use requirements and
instructions. If followed, a no-brainer task, the result will likely
be a usable system with a text-based menu-style front end. The GIF
viewer will be a version of VPIC (chosen from three options at
installation); the TGA viewer can be VPIC or TGVIEW included on the
CD. There wasn't a VESA driver offered for VPIC during installation,
but the "S3" selection worked well enough with my '805 board.
Interestingly, the installation process asked separately about my
video's ability to display 800x600x256 GIFs.

The "S3" driver of version 6.0 of VPIC was able to display the
unZIPped TGA files OK; the optional TGVIEW program wasn't. When I
selected it, there were no configuration questions asked (e.g. what
chip). Perhaps it doesn't "do" S3. When any of the ZIPped TGA files
were selected, I was summarily taken back to the "menu" immediately
after the unZIPping process. Accordingly, I can't provide a review
of TGVIEW.

The animation viewers were automatically installed and there was
supported menu access to them as well. All the animated files were
ZIPped as well so viewing them required waiting for the unZIP
process to finish before viewing. I tried a few of each type (FLI,
GL, and DL) and all were displayed without problems, albeit not
worth even the relatively short wait (see Visual).  All in all,
installation dumped 91 files on my HDD grabbing 638 Kb in the
process. A lot of these were unnecessary VPIC configuration files
that were left behind.

The front end, called "CD MENU MASTER" (I'd really *hate* to see "CD
MENU NOVICE"), isn't as complete as CDMENU from the Ecstasy CD or
ROM_MENU from Southern Beauties. It's barely functional: no mouse
support, no PgUp/PgDn, no End, tho' Home does take one to the top of
the menu (rooty-toot-toot). To use CD MENU MASTER, one "arrows" the
cursor up and down to highlight a directory. Having done that, one
can press Enter or the right arrow key and be taken to the file
listing for that directory. More up/down arrow movement highlights
the desired file, Enter displays it, Enter (or Esc) returns to the
file list, and the left arrow key (or Esc) returns to the directory
listing. Th-Th-Th-That's all folks! (Don't bother pressing "H" for
"help".)

Wait! I almost forgot - there is a "slide mode" - if you can all it
that. When "on", this feature automatically moves the cursor down
one file name on return from viewing (gollygeewhiz). One has only to
repeatedly press Enter to "slide" through all the files in the
current directory. On second thought, this "feature" *is* best
forgotten.



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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 6134
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/13/93  9:11p
Subj: Review of Total Fantasy                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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Recalling that I said earlier that operations was TF's strongest
point, you can imagine what you're in for next if you keep reading.
Don't say I didn't warn you.

Visual
======

As Yogi Berra is supposed to have said, "It's deja vu all over
again." When viewing TF's GIFs, one is reminded of the STTNG episode
where the Enterprise is caught in some sort of time warp and is
forced to live the same "loop" of time over and over and over again.

With respect to the animation files, they're all your old favorites.
If these things were on film they'ed be worn through by now. Having
recognized the titles, I was almost tempted NOT to try the viewers,
but I wanted to see how well the MENU MASTER handled them. (It did the
job quite nicely.)

As for the non-hit GIFs, well, suffice it to say that The Bard was right.
(How's that for a double metaphor?) Recalling that there was a healthy
number of non-hit file names, I set out to quell my suspicions that file
re-naming antics were at play. Fat chance!

The great majority of non-hit file names came from the \DPG1, \DPG2,
\SPC, and \PENT directories. (That last one fills you sysops with
confidence, doesn't it?). As it turns out, "DPG" stands for Digital
Photo Gallery. We've all seen their scans before under such names as
DPG_0123, etc. A *lot* of the scans in these two directories were
recognized as being identical to images with other names. DPG_0184
is a well-worn scan of Kim Bassinger; DPG_0182 and _0030 are of
Cher; DPG_0061 and _0220 are of Cindy Crawford. (Is there a pattern
here?) The files in the \SPC directory are ALL on the old favorite
Private Pictures CD except on TF they look even worse for the wear.
The \PENT scans, well, you get the idea...

As disturbing as it was seeing so many familiar images under
different names (never mind which name came first or is "correct"),
what bothered me more was the poor quality of the images as they
were displayed on the screen. "Fuzzy" comes to mind when trying to
describe them. I bothered to look up the same scans on other CDs
(notably Seedy CDs) and the very same image was frequently rendered
much sharper from them than from TF. Can't explain it - just
pointing it out.

There are 41 directories with GIFs in them.  Basically, the
directories are named A,B,C, etc. and contain GIFs with that letter
as the first letter in their name. However, there's also the 0
directory where numerically named GIFs are (e.g. 0123PICR) and then
14 other GIF directories with names like those above plus \NICE,
\JMIS, etc. Some of the non-alphabetical directory names appear to
be topical (e.g. \STARS) but whatever divisional lines were
intended, they got crossed quite a bit.

Finally, there's a surprising number of "G" scans on TF, e.g. just a
face. What's puzzling more than their presence is that they're
scattered throughout the CD and might well be sandwiched in between
two X scans. Go figure...

Bottom line: Thumbs down all around. Other "grassroots" CDs are
better on all accounts and the era of licensed collections is upon
us. Save your money and wait for them.

... He who hesitates is frost. - Eskimo proverb
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 6135
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 10/13/93 10:48p
Subj: CD Player                               Refer: NONE
Read: 10/17/93  6:37p                       Private: No 

Hello Tim!

12 Oct 93, Tim Helton writes to Pat Rickerson:


 TH> Pat, don't use this echo to conduct "one on one" business with your
 TH> customers.  Messages must "benefit everybody".

 TH> tim
 TH> moderator

Sorry, don't want to do any thing wrong, but I was just letting the person
know the money was in the mail. Could you please tell how and where I make
replys, any help would be great. I am not a dealer just a housewife that tries
to find deals for anyone and everyone here in the bottom of Texas.  I am real
new at all this. Thanks for any help!

Pat

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From: MICHAEL SEGARS                         Number: 6136
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 10/13/93  8:58p
Subj: CD-ROM Catalog!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey, add me to the list for that catalog. I can be reached at the following:
             Michael Segars
             P.O Box 2132
             Desoto, TX 75123-2132
                                            Thanks Again,
                                            Michael
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6137
  To: STEAN SNYMAN                             Date: 10/07/93  2:18p
Subj: BRAND NEW CD-ROM TITLES                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I'm looking for info on : Clipart Goliath VGA Spectrum #1 disks..

If you are looking for a LOT of stuff on a disc, avoid VGA Spectrum - they
included both the .ZIP AND the unZIPped version of all the software on their
disc, along with a few hundred .GIFs and some other graphics files.
 If you want to be able to run the stuff from the ROM, then VGA Spectrum is a
good choice, as most of the programs CAN be run from the ROM.


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6138
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 10/07/93  4:53p
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Can someone tell me if there is a cd out that has the Borg ( decent scans )

Sci-Fi / Fantasy would be your best bet - I can't guarentee that it has Borg on
it, though, haven't had the time to look at one yet (and I'm not a Trekkie, so
unfortunately it's not a real high priority)....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6139
  To: MARC BUFE                                Date: 10/07/93  4:56p
Subj: BTX/C64EMU/C64BBSS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>a) den C64/C128 Emulator fuer PC

I don't think one exists, try the CBM or CBM-128 echoes. Definitely NOT
available on a CD-ROM if one does exist, so far as I have seen.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Press ALT-T to adopt me - I NEED a better home!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6140
  To: JARED MARTIN                             Date: 10/12/93  6:48p
Subj: COOL CD-ROM GAMES                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I've been looking at a game called BattleChess
>Enhanced...anyone ever heard or seen it?  Thanks...

I've played the "regular" Battle Chess, haven't had the time to play with the
Enhanced version (yet) but the regular version is already quite nice
looking....


 * SLMR 2.1a * A dog is a dog, but a Cat is a purrrrson.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6141
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/12/93  6:49p
Subj: NO10 VS PIER 3                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

>Not so sure about Night Owl 11, with the pending six-figure
>damage settlement hanging over Richard Graham's head.

???

 I had NOT heard about this....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Windows isn't a virus; a virus does something!

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From: JIM COYLE                              Number: 6142
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/11/93 12:03p
Subj: Re: NO10 vs Pier 3                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MS> Graham's head.  (this is all public info)  What's more, I'll give you a
MS> better price:  Get your best *legitimate* price on Night Owl 10, and I'll
MS> sell you a Pier 3 for $5 less.  At this time, Ismail's price of $20 on

Will you give me the same deal? I heard Night Owl v10 was $25 from Free
Spirit.  1-800-638-5757 is their phone if you wanna call and verify. I'd give
you $20 in a second for Pier 3.

And could you tell me about the Night Owl? The damage settlement, I mean. I 
haven't heard anything about that.

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From: JIM COYLE                              Number: 6143
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 10/11/93 12:21p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Catalog!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MC>   Hello, Everyone!   I would like to tell you that Computer Works BBS now
MC> has a new catalog of CD's.

Mark,

Here's my address, how about sending me a catalog?

Jim Coyle
914 Catherine Street
Bloomsburg, PA  17815

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From: RAY MAJESKI                            Number: 6144
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 10/13/93  9:41p
Subj: FREE CD-ROM CATALOG                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please forward free CD-ROM catalog to:

Ray Majeski
6516 Camino Fuente
El Paso, TX 79912

I am a writer/reviewer for the SouthWest International Personal Computer
Club in El Paso, TX.  Please forward catalog.  If you would like me to
write an article about some of your CDs, please forward evaluation
copies to same address.  Please include phone number where our members
can order CDs.  I will forward copy of newsletter to you when published.

Thank you in advance.

                                  Ray Majeski
                                  915-775-4300 Daytime
                                  915-581-0336 Nights
                                  915-595-6019 FAX


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From: COLIN FLETCHER                         Number: 6145
  To: ANYBODY                                  Date: 10/13/93  3:41p
Subj: MAC/DOS Shareware CD                    Refer: NONE
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WANTED:  A Shareware/PD CD that's Hermes(MAC) BBS system ready...preferably one
that has both Mac and Dos progs...
Also, perhaps an adult CD that might be available, Erogenous Zones Vol. 1 or 2?
Thanks,
Colin

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From: TERRY YAN                              Number: 6146
  To: ED YEE                                   Date: 10/12/93 11:09p
Subj: oh yeah                                 Refer: NONE
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hey ed how's it going??? It's me ( you know ) hmm boy is that socail every hard
eh? OH well the jays won!! kewl!!!
c-ya at school

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6147
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/13/93 10:18a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG 10/13/93                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

X#&]%%+fN !  )19AI 



        
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CD-ROM TITLE                             PRICE
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1001 UTILITIES...........................10.00
ABOUT COWS...............................30.00
ADVENTURES IN HEAVEN.....................15.00
ADVENTURES OF WILLY BEAMISH..............20.00
AIRCRAFT ENCYCLOPEDIA,THE................30.00
AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONE BOOK.............25.00
ANECDOTES VOL.1..........................15.00
ANECDOTES VOL.2..........................15.00
ANECDOTES VOL.3..........................15.00
ANIMALS..................................25.00
ARTHUR'S TEACHER TROUBLE.................30.00
AUDUBON'S BIRDS..........................25.00
AUDUBON'S MAMMALS........................25.00
BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SCHOOL...............20.00
BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SPACE................20.00
BATTLE CHESS.............................20.00
BEAUTY AND THE BEAST.....................20.00
BIBLE LIBRARY............................30.00
BIBLES & RELIGION........................15.00
BUSINESS ASSISTANT.......................10.00
BUSINESS MASTER..........................20.00
C USERS GROUP LIBRARY....................30.00
CALIFORNIA COLLECTION....................10.00
CAMERON'S FINE ART CATALOG...............40.00
CAREER OPPORTUNIES.......................30.00
CHESSMASTER M/M..........................20.00
CIA WORLD FACT BOOK......................25.00
CIA WORLD FACT BOOK M/M..................30.00
CICA WINDOWS DISK........................20.00
CLIPART GOLIATH..........................15.00
CLIPART HEAVEN...........................15.00
COATES ART REVIEW : IMPRESSIONISM........30.00
COMPLETE BOOKSHOP........................15.00
COMPOSER QUEST...........................35.00
CONSUMER INFORMATION DISC................30.00
COOKBOOK HEAVEN..........................15.00
DANGER HOT STUFF.........................15.00
DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLES.................15.00
DESKTOP BOOKSHOP.........................15.00
DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES.................15.00
DINOSAUR ADVENTURE.......................30.00
EDUCATION MASTER.........................20.00
ELECTRONIC COOKBOOK......................35.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA MPC VER.1...................50.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA MULTI-MEDIA VER.5...........50.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUND....................15.00
EUROPEAN MONARCHS........................30.00
FAMILY DOCTOR............................25.00
FONT MASTER TWO..........................20.00
FONT MASTER..............................10.00
FONTS FOR THE PROFESSIONAL...............25.00
FRESH ARTE...............................30.00
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CD-ROM TITLE                             PRICE
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GAME ARENA...............................10.00
GAME MASTER..............................20.00
GAME PACK II.............................30.00
GARBO MSDOS/MAC..........................20.00
GIFS GALORE..............................20.00
GREAT CITIES VOLUME 1....................30.00
GREAT CITIES VOLUME 2....................30.00
HAM RADIO................................15.00
HAMCALL..................................40.00
HOLY BIBLE,THE...........................20.00
HOSPITALITY INDEX........................30.00
INTERACTIVE STORY TIME 1.................20.00
INTERACTIVE STORY TIME 2.................20.00
INTERNATIONAL BUSIN. & ECON. ATLAS.......20.00
J SCHUMACHER'S NEW PRAGUE COOKBOOK.......30.00
JETS & PROPS.............................30.00
JOKES & PRANKS...........................10.00
JONES IN THE FAST LANE...................20.00
KGB WORLD FACT BOOK......................30.00
KINGS QUEST V............................20.00
KLOTSKI..................................25.00
KODAK PHOTO CD ACCESS SOFTWARE...........20.00
LANGUAGES OF THE WORLD...................40.00
LEARNING ADVENTURE.......................10.00
LEARNING HEAVEN..........................15.00
LIBRIS BRITANIA..........................40.00
LOOM.....................................20.00
MACMILLAN DICTIONARY FOR CHILDREN........30.00
MAGAZINE RACK............................30.00
MAVIS BACON TEACHES TYPING M/M...........25.00
MAYO CLINIC..............................25.00
MIDDLE EAST DIARY........................30.00
MIDI MUSIC SHOP..........................25.00
MIXED-UP MOTHER GOOSE....................20.00
MONKEY ISLAND............................30.00
MOTHER OF ALL CLIPART....................15.00
MPC WIZARD...............................20.00
MS DOS ARCHIVES (SIMTEL 20)..............20.00
NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC MAMMALS..............30.00
NATIONAL PARKS...........................25.00
NORTH AMERICAN FACIMILE (FAX) BOOK.......30.00
NORTH AMERICAN INDIANS...................30.00
OFFICER'S BOOKCASE.......................30.00
ORIGINAL SHAREWARE.......................10.00
OS/2 ARCHIVES............................20.00
OUR SOLAR SYSTEM.........................15.00
PC-SIG VERSION 11........................20.00
PC-SIG VERSION 12........................25.00
PC-SIG WORLD OF GAMES....................15.00
PC-SIG HOME & BUSINESS COLLECTION........10.00
PC-SIG WORLD OF WINDOWS..................15.00
PENTAMINOES..............................28.00
        
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CD-ROM TITLE                             PRICE
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PETER AND THE WOLF.......................20.00
PHARMACIST GUIDE TO DRUGS................30.00
PIXEL GARDEN.............................30.00
PLANT DOCTOR.............................30.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--FRENCH...........35.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--GERMAN...........35.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--ENGLISH..........35.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--JAPANESE.........35.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--SPANISH..........35.00
PROGRAMMER'S ROM.........................30.00
PROJECT GUTENBURG........................20.00
PUBLIQUE ARTE............................30.00
PUBLISH-IT...............................25.00
Q & A....................................50.00
QRZ HAM RADIO............................20.00
RBBS IN A BOX VERSION 3.1................30.00
REFERENCE LIBRARY........................20.00
ROGER EBERT MOVIE COMPANION..............30.00
SCOUNTING REPORT 92......................30.00
SEALS OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.............30.00
SECRET WEAPONS OF THE LUFTWAFFE..........30.00
SELECTWARE...............................10.00
SHAKESPEARE..............................20.00
SHAREWARE GOLD II VOL.2 #1...............30.00
SHAREWARE HEAVEN.........................15.00
SHAREWARE ONLINE.........................25.00


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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6148
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/13/93 10:18a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG 10/13/93                 Refer: NONE
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SHAREWARE ONLINE VOL.#2..................25.00
SHERLOCK CONSULTING DETECTIVE............20.00
SHERLOCK HOLMES..........................20.00
SO MUCH SCREENWARE.......................30.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 2......................15.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3......................25.00
SOFTWARE VAULT VOL.2.....................15.00
SOUND SENSATIONS.........................15.00
SOURCE CD-ROM............................20.00
SPACE ADVENTURE..........................30.00
SPACE QUEST IV...........................20.00
SPACE SERIES-APOLLO......................30.00
STELLER 7................................20.00
STRAIGHT FROM HEAVEN.....................15.00
STREET ATLAS USA.........................95.00
TAO OF COW...............................30.00
TECHNOTOOLS..............................15.00
TEMPRA PHOTO CD ACCESS SOFTWARE..........20.00
TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES.................30.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-SCIENCE............25.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-BUS.& POLITICS.....25.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-ARTS & ENTERTAIN...25.00
TOO MANY TYPEFONTS.......................12.00
U.S. ATLAS M/M...........................20.00
U.S. ATLAS WITH AUTOMAP..................25.00
U.S. CIVICS..............................30.00
        
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CD-ROM TITLE                             PRICE

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6149
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/13/93 10:26a
Subj: FREE CATALOG                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FOR A FREE CATALOG OR TO PLACE AN ORDER , WRITE TO:
STEVE GREENO
1275 E. PRINCE
TUCSON AZ. 85719
FAX # 1-602-292-0497

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From: BOBBY WIENHOLT                         Number: 6150
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/13/93  9:27p
Subj: Cd Rom list 1 of 3                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   Elite Computer Systems, Inc.
                    1414 Banavie Terrace East
                   Bel Air, Maryland 21015-5778

            ************ CD-ROM Title List ****************

 CD-ROM Title                                          Price

Adventures of Willy Beamish                            $30
Aircraft Encyclopedia, The                             $40
American Business Phone Book                           $35
Anecdotes Vol 1, 2, or 3                               $25
Animals                                                $35

Arthur's Teacher Trouble                               $40
Audubon's Mammals                                      $35
Battle Chess                                           $30
Beauty and the Beast                                   $30
Bible Library                                          $40

Bibles & Religion                                      $25
C Users Group Library                                  $40
Chessmaster (Multi-Media)                              $30
CIA World Fact Book                                    $35
CIA World Fact Book (Multi-Media)                      $40

Clipart Goliath                                        $25
Clipart Heaven                                         $25
Complete Bookshop                                      $25
Composer Quest                                         $45
Comptons Encyclopedia (Limited Availability)           $70

Dictionaries & Language                                $25
Electronic Cookbook                                    $45
Encyclopedia MPC Ver 1                                 $60
Encyclopedia Multi-Media Ver 5                         $60
Encyclopedia of Sound                                  $25

Family Doctor                                          $35
Font Master                                            $20
Font Master Two                                        $30
Fonts for the Professional                             $35
Game Arena                                             $20

Game Master                                            $30
Game Pack II                                           $40
GIFs Galore                                            $30
Great Cities Volume 1                                  $40
Great Cities Volume 2                                  $40

Reply here to order.

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From: BOBBY WIENHOLT                         Number: 6151
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/13/93  9:28p
Subj: Cd Rom list 2 of 3                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   Elite Computer Systems, Inc.
                    1414 Banavie Terrace East
                   Bel Air, Maryland 21015-5778

         *********** CD-ROM Title List Cont'd ***********

 CD-ROM Title                                          Price

Ham Radio                                              $25
Holy Bible, The                                        $30
Interactive Story Time 1                               $30
Interactive Story Time 2                               $30
International Business and Economic Atlas              $30

J Schumacher's New Prague Cookbook                     $40
Jones In the Fast Lane                                 $30
KGB World Fact Book                                    $40
Kings Quest V                                          $30
KlotSki                                                $35

Kodak Photo CD Access Software                         $30
Languages of the World                                 $50
Loom                                                   $30
MacMillan Dictionary for Children                      $40
Magazine Rack                                          $40

Mavis Bacon Teaches Typing                             $35
MIDI Music Shop                                        $35
Mixed-Up Mother Goose                                  $30
Monkey Island                                          $40
Mother of all Clip-Art                                 $25

MPC Wizard                                             $30
National Geographic Mammals                            $40
National Parks                                         $35
Our Solar System                                       $25
PC SIG Version 11                                      $30

PC SIG Version 12                                      $35
PC SIG World of Games                                  $25
PC SIG Home & Business Collection                      $20
PC SIG World of Windows                                $25
Playing With Languages French                          $45

  "      "      "      German                          $45
  "      "      "      English                         $45
  "      "      "      Japanese                        $45
  "      "      "      Spanish                         $45
Programmer's ROM                                       $40

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From: BOBBY WIENHOLT                         Number: 6152
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/13/93  9:29p
Subj: Cd Rom list 3 of 3                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   Elite Computer Systems, Inc.
                    1414 Banavie Terrace East
                   Bel Air, Maryland 21015-5778

            ********* CD-ROM Titles Cont'd ***********

 CD-ROM Title                                          Price

Publish-It                                             $35
Q & A                                                  $60
RBBS In A Box Version 3.1                              $40
Roger Ebert Movie Companion                            $40
Shareware Heaven                                       $25

Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective                   $30
Sherlock Holmes                                        $30
So Much Shareware 2                                    $25
So Much Shareware 3                                    $35
Space Quest IV                                         $30

Stellar 7                                              $30
U.S. Atlas (Multi-Media)                               $30
U.S. Atlas with Auto Map                               $35
U.S./World Atlas                                       $32
Where is Carmen San Diego                              $40

Wing Commander/Ultima VI                               $35
World Atlas (Multi-Media)                              $30
Dinosaurs                                              $40
Gameware Collection                                    $35
Guiness Disc of Records 1993                           $40

To Order, Reply Here.

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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 6153
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/13/93  9:56p
Subj: A PUBLIC APPEAL                         Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike Shannon beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

MS>I would like to make this public appeal to all Starvector's past, pres
MS>and future customers:
MS>
MS>A problem exists in Fidoland, and it has just recently come to my
MS>attention.  There exists a Fido policy which basically states that rou
MS>Netmail is not to be used for the purposes of transacting any type of
MS>commercial business.  This includes solicitations, direct sales, price
MS>quotes, catalog requests, and the like.  I spoke with Dallas Hinton, t

This net is riddles with unreasonable rules and quite a few nazi-like
dicatators called moderators (not here though) who are completely
unmanaged and unregulated like the rest of the net. FIDO is big and is
handy but both Intellec and especially RIME are much more pleasant places
to hang out. However when it comes to buying and selling, you can't beat
the size of crowd you reach here.


 * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * America Held Hostage: Day 265 of the Socialist Takeover!


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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 6154
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 10/13/93 10:07p
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG PAGE 4                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Steve Greeno beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

SG>WORLD ATLAS M/M..........................20.00

How much shipping on this one? Is this the latest Windows version with
the "new" Europe? You didn't provide a phone number for ordering.

Ron


 * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * America Held Hostage: Day 265 of the Socialist Takeover!


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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 6155
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 10/13/93 10:09p
Subj: Queer                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike Shannon beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

MS>DR>Listen to me you camel-sucking sand monkey:
MS>
MS>Man, when are you going to come out of your shell and learn to express
MS>your TRUE feelings?

Yea! Don't sugarcoat it dave!


 * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * NO special rights for behavior!


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From: DWAYNE COFFELT                         Number: 6156
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/13/93  8:59p
Subj: 2400int - $ Or Trade 4 C                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

2400 baud internal Hayes compatible modem with external volume control
works great but just upgraded to 14.4 so I no longer need this one.
Still have box, docs, and the worthless crosstalk software that came 
with it.

Will sell for $25 negotiable or would be interested in trading for
a CD.  Let me know what CD you have to trade if interested in a trade.

Reply here or call

Dwayne E. Coffelt
home (615)-837-7827 (Local to chattanooga)
work (205)-574-8139

Uttered by Dwayne Coffelt at 20:51 on 10/13/93

___
 X RM 1.2 00799 X He's got a Magnet! Everyone BACKUP!! - Cmdr. Data

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 6157
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 10/14/93  8:40a
Subj: Re: gettin' in step                     Refer: NONE
Read: 10/17/93  6:43p                       Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Tim Helton to All <=-
 TH> We've ventured outside of the toleration zone.  Some vendors are
 TH> using this echo to conduct "one on one" business with their
 TH> customers - posts that don't "benefit everyone".  These type messages
 TH> will no longer be tolerated.

 Good move, Tim. The message traffic count will probably drop by 25% !
 Thanks!
... Security, confine Ensign Helton to the brig.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 6158
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/14/93  9:39a
Subj: Latest Batch                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Bob Jackson <=-
 MS> our days 28 hours long.  <g>  BTW: What did you think of that latest
 MS> batch of discs?

W-e-l-l-l-l....not too good. I *may* keep one but likely all four will be
coming back. Reviews of Super Smutware and Total Fantasy have been posted.
I've done a quick look at High Volume Nudes but need to study it a bit more.
Firearms CD doesn't make the cut. High Volume Nudes includes previews of 
the producer's other products, incl. the "Almanac" CD. That one looks very
promising. Go ahead an package up another batch and send them on. By the 
time UPS gets them down here, I'll be ready for them.
... With a Blue Wave of my hand I cleared away the SLMR!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 6159
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/14/93 10:01a
Subj: BB II & SHOWOFF                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Lee Noga to Mike Shannon <=-
 LN> We added a neat slideshow feature to our SHOWOFF interface as well as
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Great!

 LN> a comand option to read text stories too--SHOWOFF has been enhanced
 LN> since its first release on BB I--The thumbnail pages are *MUCHO*
 LN> clearer, and the interface is video smart and will scale back the
     ^^^^^^^
Ahhhhh!

 LN> image from 1024x768 to VGA, if the user does not have SVGA--This disc
 LN> will sure to please Bob Jackson, cuz' SHOWOFF can't get much better
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<blush>    

 LN> then it is.......(well, we are adding a new feature never done before
                                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
If I were a cat, I'd be dead now!

The end-user CUSTOMERS will be the big winners here. I guess the sysops 
could care less about "front ends". I've never been a sysop (and have NO
plans to that end) so I *REALLY* appreciate a good "graphical" user interface.

Any chance of getting my copy autographed by thou? Would also appreciate a 
snapshot if you have one. (You show me yours and I'll show you mine. ((:> )


... From the Law Offices of Dewey, Cheatham, and Howe.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 6160
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 10/14/93 10:10a
Subj: Acceptable Message?                     Refer: NONE
Read: 10/17/93  6:44p                       Private: No 

 JL> Rob, How about a phone number so we can talk turkey. I might
 JL> be interested

Tim:

Is this an acceptable message that doesn't violate "one-on-one" business?


... I'd rather ride the Wave than wallow in QWKsand!
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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 6161
  To: JACK HUDDLE                              Date: 10/13/93 12:14p
Subj: DESIGNER 4.0 on CD- CHEAP               Refer: NONE
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Jack:

You just missed it- it went out yesterday.

Thanks
Bob

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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 6162
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/13/93 12:21p
Subj: Corel ArtShow 3 CD & Book               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Latest Corel ArtShow 3 CD with beautifully printed coffee table book
          
          ArtShow 3 Program (does not need CorelDraw to run) is run from 
          Windows and allows searching  & viewing of all 3000 images 
          accompanied by on-line MIDI music
          
          3000 images in CorelDRAW .CDR format (editable in CorelDraw)
          
          Corel CD-Audio Program- allows you to play your MUSIC CDs in
          your CD-ROM drive.

          Corel ARTVIEW Screen Saver for Windows 3.1

          >> Still Sealed-- BRAND NEW <<

          $25 + UPS

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From: ADRIAN VERGOT                          Number: 6163
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 10/13/93  8:45p
Subj: Custom CD-ROM $75 !                     Refer: NONE
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Correct.  10 CD's would be $525.  If you have any other questions, feel free to
ask.
 
- Adrian Vergot

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 6164
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/13/93  9:27a
Subj: Re: Inside tip                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <10-11-93 01:00> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS>> LN>several more distribs have announced they are getting away from
MS>> the 'XXX'

MS>> You speak the truth, oh well-travelled one.

Darn shame at that, Mike--We were doing so well in that arena and had some
great stuff coming--It was painful cancelling the contracts but...only good
comes to those that wait, and we fell into some great stuff, in an entire
different niche--So, I guess good things can always some how come from
something bad :)

PS--BB II is at press and should be shipping later this week--We are drop
shipping to major arteries, so your supplier should be in 'Fat' city, soon.

We added a neat slideshow feature to our SHOWOFF interface as well as a comand
option to read text stories too--SHOWOFF has been enhanced since its first
release on BB I--The thumbnail pages are *MUCHO* clearer, and the interface is
video smart and will scale back the image from 1024x768 to VGA, if the user
does not have SVGA--This disc will sure to please Bob Jackson, cuz' SHOWOFF
can't get much better then it is.......(well, we are adding a new feature never
done before with images, but that's a perk :))

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 6165
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 10/13/93  2:59p
Subj: Re: address for                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to all <10-11-93 20:22> Michael Harris wrote:

MH>> Can someone give me the address for Sexy CD software
MH>> the cd only has           sexy cd software
MH>>                           miami fl. 33166

It is a *BOGUS* publishing company--We have spent a thousand researching this
firm, and found the people behind it--This company is fictious, and is not
registered with the State of Florida--So your chasing a ghost.
IN summary, it falls under fraud. Need I say more?

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: BILL DEERTZ                            Number: 6166
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 10/13/93 10:51p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $739.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1169.  -S

Are both of these Pioneer multiple disc players SCSI format?  Are these
internal or external?


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From: PAUL CHATFIELD                         Number: 6167
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 10/10/93  9:23p
Subj: Queer                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well I dont think this kind of OUTBURST is either wanted or justified in a
international echo...not to mention the fact that I and others actually have to
pay for the mails we get...I pay $1.50 a minute!! and I dont expect to get you
off topic drivel to boot! Kindly take you abuse and feelings elsewhere..
like netmail direct or voice!....to the moderator...sorry for the reply but
this king of thing p's me something shocking...I poll from Singapore to the USA
for this...and I hope this doesnt happen again!


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From: PAUL CHATFIELD                         Number: 6168
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/10/93  9:29p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Also send one to me

c/o #15-01 the Octagon
105 Cecil St
Singapore (0106)

Also list Int'l shipping charges too....can't wait!

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From: PAUL CHATFIELD                         Number: 6169
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 10/10/93  9:37p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What number do I call to order from outside CAN/USA...I live in Singapore!

Will you ship with covers in a seperate mail....the thought police are crazy
here!

If you have a full catalog please post to me at the addresss below of fax

c/o #15-01 The Octagon
105 Cecil St
Singapore (0106)
fax +65-224-5707
or netmail it to me direct
6:600/357 or 6:600/368...14400 24hrs



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From: PAUL CHATFIELD                         Number: 6170
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/10/93  9:45p
Subj: Catalogs for overseas buyers            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Distributors!

Please send your catalogs to

Paul Chatfield
#15-01 The Octagon
105 Cecil St
Singapore (0106)

Also list Int'l Phone details and shipping charges too....can't wait!

I would be happy to Distribute locally here too. If the disks and rates are
good!....



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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 6171
  To: GARY KIMBRELL                            Date: 10/13/93  6:06a
Subj: Re: Budget Cd's 4 sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Gary, hi and I saw your ad for used adult cd's.  I have the 1993
T & A 2 THE MAXX (Profit Press) that I would trade for any of the
three titles you listed.  Leave mailing address if interested.

Thanks, Randy


... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 6172
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 10/14/93 12:25a
Subj: Lowest CD-Rom Prices Yet!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Ronald!

In a message to Jim Lambert <10/11/93> Ronald Leon wrote:

RL> Jim,

RL> Does Night Owl make a windows only shareware CD?? If so, how much?

RL> Ron


The windows disk will be out at the end of the year most probably...
perhaps a little earlier, but nothing firm yet!

Mark

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From: JOHN RICKER                            Number: 6173
  To: HAROLD YARBROUGH                         Date: 10/12/93  6:36p
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  |o|           Monster Disc (2 disc set)........................

HY|o| ALL cd's are BBS ready. Great for adding files to BBS.

HY|o| $15.00 each or $100.00 for Set!

HY|o| Contact Harold at (314) 255-1792

If the Monster Disc is Adult I will take it for $15.00...

John Ricker..

 * OLX 2.2 * No...  Why, have YOU ever snorted laser toner?


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From: JOHN RICKER                            Number: 6174
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/13/93  4:50p
Subj: Getting into the Business               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi there All,

I was wondering if anyone could tell me how I would go about getting
into the CD-ROM business (sell the CD's).. I would appreciate any
information that you could provide..


Thanks in advance...

john ricker

 * OLX 2.2 * MEMBER - Association of ASCII Cows - MEMBER


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From: LEWIS BULLARD                          Number: 6175
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/13/93  4:31p
Subj: SALE OR TRADE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Have a few items I need to get rid of. All items guaranteed against DOA.

Magnavox CDD 461 CDrom. Light use, external, plays audio cds without
software, slow but good for bbs. Will include 5 cd's of shareware $250

Toshiba 42 meg MFM 3.5 hard drive with 5.25 mounting bracket

Shareware Extravaganza 4 cd's 25,000 programs

Sigcat 1992 software showcase, mostly DB stuff includes Wordperfect
5.1 manual, online bible among others.

Harvard Graphics for Windows, All manuals and letter to transfer reg

Logetech scanman 32 greyscale with paintshop

Kaypro II luggable computer with softcase, dual floppie, mono monitor
lots of cp/m software $75

AT&T business phone system, comkey, intercomm, speakerphone, 8 phones
with up to eight lines each $100

4 256x9 100ns simms

Professor Windows, learn windows at your own pace, box, dox and 5.25
only

Microprose F-19 Stealth Fighter, box, dox, reg, 5.25

Make offer on all items. Will consider trades on most. Am looking for
scsi controller with ext. ports, external scsi cases with cables,
Trantor parallel to scsi adapter, 14.4 ext. fax modem, reference cd's.

                    Lewis 405-357-5942



... Would she be happy with a Pet Rock instead?
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From: JOE REYNOLDS                           Number: 6176
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/10/93  6:53p
Subj: Adult CDs wanted for BBS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in purchasing some adult cds to run with my BBS. Does
anyone know of any titles and where I can get them.

Thanks
Joe Reynolds

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From: G. LARRY WEBB                          Number: 6177
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 10/13/93  1:01p
Subj: FOR SALE                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike,
I'll offer $15 including shipping for the Action CD ROM. Post here with your
address or ship to me at 256 Brookberry Circle, Chapel Hill, NC
27514; or call me at 919 929 8761 if you like. Thanks... (PS -- if you ship it
to me, I'll send the check as soon as I know your address!)

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From: ZACHARY HAMM                           Number: 6178
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/13/93  6:08p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                             FOR SALE:


7th guest CD-ROM with "The Making of T7G" Video..................$40.00
Microsoft Works CD-ROM, Word 2.0 & Excel 4.0, docs on disk.......$75.00
Microsoft Office CD-ROM, Docs on Disk...........................$125.00
Hobbes OS/2 CD-ROM, Shareware for OS/2 1.3-2.1...................$25.00

All prices are firm and do not include shipping.
All are guaranteed against DOA.



Call 919-217-8333 or echo back.


Zack

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From: NATHANIEL BRITTS                       Number: 6179
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/13/93 10:45a
Subj: wanted cd's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Doug,
   Thanks for the respond and offer. I would like to purchase all 5 but my
finances will not allow for it at this time. I will buy manpower for 25.00.
If this is good for you let me know. Thanks again!
                              Nat
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From: TIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 6180
  To: TOM HUNT                                 Date: 10/13/93  9:40p
Subj: Hot Pix                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On Oct 12 11:19 93, Tom Hunt of 1:151/162 wrote:

 TH> I am looking for the Hot Pix Vol 1 made by the Windy City 
 TH> folks does anyone have a copy they would like to 
 TH> sell..looking for the best price leave number so I can get 
 TH> in touch thanks


I've got one Tom. Paid 89.00 for it. I'll sell it for 70.00. 1-318-988-1404 or
netmail 1:3803/1.4.



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From: MICHAEL ANDREWS                        Number: 6181
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/14/93  2:54a
Subj: Mitsumi CD Drivers for OS/2 2.1 GA      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Just D/L'd the New Drivers off of the IBM Support BBS. FREQ'able here
BTN of MITFX.ZIP. File Size is 14k, Below is an excerpt from the Docs:

----------------------------------------------------------------------

This README describes an OS/2 device driver (MITFX001.ADD) for the
Mitsumi CD-ROM drives.  The device driver supports the new
FX series of Mitsumi drives: the single speed CRMC-FX001 and the
double-speed CRMC-FX001D.  The device driver also supports the
older Mitsumi CRMC-LU005.

This device driver does not support the older Mitsumi CRMC-LU002
CD-ROM drive (also known as the Tandy CDR-1000 or BSR-6800).

Supported Features
------------------
The OS/2 Mitsumi CD-ROM device driver (MITFX001.ADD) supports the
following features:

  * Reads data from CD-ROM discs conforming to the High Sierra/ISO-9660
    file formats.
  * Plays audio from standard audio CDs or mixed mode CD-ROM discs
    containing both data and audio
  * Multisession photo CD
  * Reads data from Mode 2 Form 1 or Mode 2 Form 2 sector formats
  * MMPM/2 Software Motion Video
  * MMPM/2 CD Audio Player
  * Software lock, unlock and eject (Models FX001 and FX001D only)
  * Data transfer via software polling or interrupts

------------------------------------------------------------------------

So if you need them come an get it, I've got them installed here in less
than 10 minutes.


... If you want a Galaxy class PC cruiser, "OS/2" is it!
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From: STEVE EVERLEY                          Number: 6182
  To: ANYONE                                   Date: 10/14/93  6:04p
Subj: Telephone Directory                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for the most up to date and complete CD containing the telephone
numbers for EVERYONE in the U.S. I understand that someone has a set of about
6-8 cd's that is real good. I have seen one that is 2-CD's. I guess it is OK
but definately not very complete.
  
Can any one help me.. 
  
Thanks..  -=Steve=-
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From: ERIC SANTELICES                        Number: 6183
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/14/93  8:29a
Subj: So Much Shareware I & II                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have so much Shareware vol I and II is there a vol III?
If so where can I get it?

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From: ERIC SANTELICES                        Number: 6184
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/14/93  8:31a
Subj: Latest Shareware CD-ROM                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What is the latest SHAREWARE CD-ROM on the market.  I want one that was
produced with in the last 6 mon.  I would also like it to support FILES.BBS
description structures.
  
Any suggestions?
  
EricS.

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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 6185
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 10/15/93  1:36a
Subj: Re: Asian Ladies For Trad               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well, I'm still intrested in this disc.  I'll offer you $20 shipped or
consider a trade of it + a couple of bucks.....
- 2 copies of 7th Guest with video
- Macromind Action 1.0
- Lotus 123 for Windows with MM extensions
- Comption's MM encyclopedia
- Wing Commander 2 Deluxe
 
All : Would like to trade for either the above CD or some other decent adult
CD's or otherwise.
Jason

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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 6186
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/14/93  9:27p
Subj: Wanted: Bible Cde                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Doug Carpenter beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

DC> DC> Does anyone know of/have a bible CD that will run from the CD ?
DC>
DC>We have a couple of choices there.....Bible Library at $28.50

Hi Doug,

Isn't the Bible Library an old 1988 disk or have they come out with a new
version? What year is the copyright? Does it come in a windows version?
I'm interested...thanks.

Ron


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From: TONY DAVIS                             Number: 6187
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/15/93  9:33a
Subj: BBS Defense Fund                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

           The Tony Davis Electronic Defense Fund

Established to help pay the costs of litigation in defense of criminal charges
against Tony Davis, the costs of defending the State's attempt to forfeit and
sell Tony Davis' Oklahoma Information Exchange BBS computer equipment and
prosecuting cases against persons who violated any user of the Oklahoma
Information Exchange BBS civil rights as a result of the raid and seizure of
the OIE BBS.

The outcome of these legal procedures will inevitable have a long term effect
on the electronic communications community, and all interested parties are
requested to help defend their legal rights.


Please send your donation to:

     The Tony Davis Electronic Defense Fund
     3 Quarter Horse Lane
     McLoud, Oklahoma  74851

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 6188
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/14/93  9:44a
Subj: INSIDE TIP                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>Don't you love this echo for it's ability to get information out to a wide
LN>range of users and publishers etc--Well, for all the closet publishers that
LN>read this echo, got an update which supports what I have been saying about t
LN>'Grassroot' industry falling by the wayside--

Yep.  And when there is something not covered in the echo, call me for
the "rest of the story".....

BOB
:-)

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 6189
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 10/15/93  8:25a
Subj: 1 OF 2                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Dan, I am cross posting this to the CDROM ECHO.
        For obvious reasons..  thanks Bob Hall


DH> * Forwarded from "R19 SYSOP"
DH> * Originally by Tony Davis
DH> * Originally to All
DH> * Originally dated 4 Oct 1993, 19:36

DH>Well, it is still appearing in the national trade mags. Here (and the
DH>next message) is a story that is in the October issue of Boardwatch.
DH>The writer is Lance Rose, an attorney, and the author of "SYSLAW",
DH>the 'bible' on electronic communication law.



DH>TONY DAVIS & THE SHOW-BIZ COPS OF OKLAHOMA CITY

DH>The arrest of Tony Davis was reported in last month's Boardwatch. Davis
DH>operated the Oklahoma Information Exchange BBS in Oklahoma City. On August
DH>17, 1993, he was formally arraigned in Oklahoma state court and allowed to
DH>remain out of jail on $4500 bail. Since the first report, we looked into thi
DH>affair more closely. The closer one looks, the more absurd Davis' plight
DH>gets.

DH>The police investigation of Tony Davis culminated in two purchases of
DH>allegedly obscene CD-ROMs from Davis by undercover police on June 4th and
DH>July 12th, 1993. Shortly after the second purchase, on July 19, 1993, they
DH>arrived in force at Tony Davis' office with a warrant and seized some adult
DH>CD-ROMs from the stock he maintained in operating a CD-ROM retail business.
DH>They did not stop there, however. They also grabbed his BBS computer
DH>equipment and arrested Davis.

DH>The event had little chance of passing unnoticed, as the police brought alon
DH>a professional video camera and videotaped the whole affair. Afterwards they
DH>edited the tape, wrote a script, and with the help of the local ABC affiliat
DH>turned it into a weekly installment of a "reality television" program called
DH>"You're Busted". It was broadcast throughout the Oklahoma City area on July
DH>23rd, four days after the raid. For that extra dose of reality, the episode
DH>was narrated by one of the policemen who searched Davis' place and arrested
DH>him.

DH>As the police burst in on Davis, the voiceover informed TV viewers they were
DH>witnessing the control center for Davis' "international pornographic
DH>network". Out of roughly 2,000 CD- ROMs Davis kept on hand for the CD-ROM
DH>retail business he operated, the police confiscated 57. For purposes of
DH>comparison, that's under 3% of Davis' total stock of CD-ROMs. A far smaller
DH>percentage than the amount of hardcore adult material found in typical video
DH>stores in most parts of our country. Later in the show, the cop with the
DH>video camera focused on a computer screen showing the CD-ROM activity on
DH>Davis' BBS. The names of BBS users could be seen as they downloaded files
DH>from CD-ROMs. The narrating officer knowingly explained to the TV audience
DH>that they were seeing BBS users "viewing the smut" right then and there (not
DH>to spoil the fun, but the police were mistaken; users can't read image files
DH>they are transferred to their own computers). At the end of the show, the
DH>narrator belted out the show's theme: "Tony Davis, you're busted!" Davis did
DH>not enjoy his 15 minutes of fame.  According to Davis, "the You're Busted'
DH>show was the most degrading thing I've seen done to anybody in my life."

DH>The newspapers were thoroughly scooped but joined in spiritedly, passing
DH>along police allegations that Tony Davis was running a "high-tech, modern-da
DH>porno house". They noted that other investigations continued, which might
DH>mean the police were investigating Davis' CD-ROM suppliers, his customers, o
DH>both. To their credit, they also gave a number of column inches to questions
DH>raised by Davis' defense attorney, William Holmes, about the legality of the
DH>police actions.

DH>Davis was charged with four obscenity-related counts at the arraignment, two
DH>based on the CD-ROM purchases by undercover officers prior to the raid.
DH>Another count charged Davis with criminal "possession" of obscenity, despite
DH>the Supreme Court's declaration in the past that mere possession of obscene
DH>material is perfectly legal. The addition of this bizarre claim indicates
DH>either that the local police do not understand the Constitutional rights of
DH>U.S. citizens, or do not care. The last count was for trafficking in obscene
DH>images. According to Davis' attorney, this statute was originally enacted in
DH>reaction to pornographic video games, and now seems to be directed at the
DH>downloading of BBS files that the cops videotaped. All charges could have a
DH>very hard time sticking if the defective search and seizure procedures used
DH>by the police are closely scrutinized in court.

DH>Those procedures do appear deeply defective. Federal protections for BBS's
DH>and sysops were apparently ignored wholesale in the Davis raid, just as in
DH>other BBS raids we've seen the past couple of years. The Electronic
DH>Communications Privacy Act ("ECPA"), protects electronic messages against
DH>government search or seizure. When the police took Davis' BBS, they prevente
DH>messages traveling through the BBS from being delivered to their ultimate
DH>addresses. About 150 messages went undelivered, according to Davis' attorney
DH>This interception violates the ECPA, even if the police resisted the
DH>temptation to read e-mail on the seized computers back in their offices.

DH>The Privacy Protection Act ("PPA"), prohibits seizure of materials being kep
DH>or prepared for publication, unless the person holding them is suspected of
DH>crime involving those very materials (with a few narrow exceptions). Davis'
DH>business activities included publishing the "Magnum" series of CD-ROMS, none
DH>of which were included in the titles the police thought obscene. By seizing
DH>computers containing the materials used by Davis' in publishing his CD-ROMs,
DH>the police grossly violated the PPA. Since Davis was not suspected or accuse
DH>of any crime in relation to the Magnum CD- ROMs he published, any associated
DH>materials simply should not have been touched by the police.

DH>Even plain vanilla 4th and 5th Amendment warrant requirements may have been
DH>violated by the police in this case.  According to sources, the Oklahoma Cit
DH>police typically obtain a warrant based on an informal chat with the
DH>magistrate. Afterwards, they perform the actions authorized by the warrant,
DH>and only then submit a formal affidavit to support the warrant. If the polic
DH>followed this sloppy and deeply illegal procedure in Davis' case, then his
DH>due process rights were grossly violated. As a further example of official
DH>slop, neither the warrant under which the raid was conducted, nor the police
DH>request for that warrant, mentioned Davis' computer bulletin board at all.
DH>That fatal omission did not stop the cops from taking all the computer
DH>equipment anyway.

DH>Perhaps the Oklahoma City prosecutors believe the seizure was legal because
DH>it is authorized under Oklahoma's own obscenity seizure statutes. If so,
DH>they're dead wrong. Federal due process protections trump state seizure laws
DH>There was no emergency here to justify even a temporary abridgement of Davis
DH>full due process rights. The particular importance of the ECPA and PPA shoul
DH>not be underestimated by Oklahoma state attorneys or anyone else. The
DH>protections of these statutes are so important that Congress spelled them ou
DH>expressly, even though in a sense they merely clarify protections already
DH>contained in the Constitution. The police cannot bat these protections out o
DH>the way every time they threaten this week's episode of "You're Busted."

DH>--- GEcho 1.00
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DH>                                               
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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 6190
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 10/15/93  8:27a
Subj: 2 OF 2                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Dan, I am cross posting this to the CDROM Echo for
        obvious reasons....
thanks..
Bob Hall

DH> * Forwarded from "R19 SYSOP"
DH> * Originally by Tony Davis
DH> * Originally to All
DH> * Originally dated 4 Oct 1993, 19:36

DH>Davis' lawyer, himself a former local prosecutor, appears fully aware of the
DH>mess the police are making of the Davis matter. He sent them a letter a week
DH>after the raid formally notifying them they are violating the ECPA and PPA
DH>through their seizure and retention of Davis' computer equipment. In doing
DH>so, he is trying to short circuit a possible future defense by the cops that
DH>they did not know they were doing anything wrong by holding Davis' equipment
DH>Readers of Boardwatch may recall the lawsuit won by Steve Jackson Games
DH>against the U.S. government in Austin, Texas a few months back. The federal
DH>court held that the agents' naive BBS seizure violating the ECPA and PPA
DH>could be excused, but the agents became obligated to return the wrongly
DH>seized materials as soon as they found out about their privacy and publishin
DH>aspects and the laws forbidding their seizure. The same should certainly hol
DH>true here. Despite this precedent, as of August 19th the police still did no
DH>return anything to Davis, almost a month after receiving his lawyer's
DH>notifying letter.

DH>Why did the police pick on Davis? It certainly wasn't due to their keen law
DH>enforcement instincts. Despite the screaming newspaper headlines about porno
DH>shop merchants, Davis is a well- known and respected business man. He runs a
DH>telephone goods and services company, selling equipment and special services
DH>like Centrex switching to local area businesses. He was operating Oklahoma
DH>Information Exchange, a widely reputed and very busy BBS.  He was one of the
DH>founders of Fidonet, and was Region 19 coordinator for several years. In his
DH>CD-ROM business, he sold many titles (with adult titles accounting for a
DH>minute portion of his business), and produced his own Magnum CD-ROMs.

DH>Davis also had a fairly extensive age verification scheme to assure only
DH>adults were getting access to adult materials on his BBS. Memberships were
DH>which to those who had credit cards. In addition, to get access to the adult
DH>area users had to send Davis assigned letter stating they were over 21.
DH>Despite these measures, when the dust cleared Davis' standing as a
DH>businessman and his age verification procedures did nothing to slow down the
DH>police.

DH>After talking with Davis, his attorney and other local sources, the blame fo
DH>his troubles should be laid on the creepy little deal the Oklahoma City
DH>police cooked up with the local ABC TV affiliate for the "You're Busted"
DH>television program. The TV station gave the police a professional video
DH>camera and the opportunity to shoot, script and narrate a TV program called
DH>"You're Busted". The payoff to the police was 15 minutes of fame on a weekly
DH>basis for individual cops, and great publicity and a high profile for police
DH>department as a whole. In return, the TV station received a TV show in hugel
DH>popular "reality television" format, an exclusive relationship with the
DH>police not enjoyed by other local stations, and, it would appear, very low
DH>production costs.

DH>A great business deal for the police and the television station, but terribl
DH>news for just about everyone else. For starters, the police end up paying
DH>less attention to protecting the community and more to show biz. On-the-scen
DH>arrests make the best TV, so the police will be more motivated to obtain
DH>search and arrest warrants and less concerned about whether the intrusion on
DH>peoples' lives is justified. In fact, the more individuals they intrude on,
DH>the better the "You're Busted" episode.

DH>The effect on the news media is just as bad. The local ABC affiliate falsely
DH>presents the police-made footage as "reality", when in fact it's been
DH>manufactured for TV just like all other TV fodder. The police may not be
DH>conversant with the finer points of constitutional law, but they're smart
DH>enough to know if they don't make a good show they'll be canned fast by the
DH>station. Further, the media, the proud "fourth estate", lets itself become n
DH>more than a flack for the local police. The public, as usual, is victimized
DH>on both ends. Its gets prosecution of the most entertaining instead of the
DH>most deserving, while the couch potatoes of Oklahoma City are served up a
DH>desperately skewed view of law enforcement and who are the criminals.

DH>Without the cop/show biz connection, Tony Davis might never have been busted
DH>If the police had taken the trouble to investigate Davis' life a bit, they
DH>would have discovered that the adult CD-ROMs were only a small part of his
DH>business. Tony Davis is not a porn merchant, not the type of person to hold
DH>up to others as a bad example. Yet with their constant need to come up with
DH>new and exciting material on a TV production schedule, the police overlooked
DH>the reality of Davis' business. It fit their agenda better to bust Tony Davi
DH>with a bang with the whole world watching, than to quietly give Davis a word
DH>to the wise about the police department's newly formulated policies on
DH>digitized adult materials.

DH>Indeed, the police departments' failure to give Davis a little advance
DH>warning seems almost criminally negligent.  According to assistant district
DH>attorney Lori Nettleton, "This is the first time that charges have been file
DH>involving the use of computers in an obscenity case in Oklahoma County." A
DH>quick look at the laws under which Davis was charged shows they were on the
DH>Oklahoma statute books for almost ten years. Why did the police not act unde
DH>them until now?

DH>One could argue the police themselves promoted the growth of the adult
DH>computer file business through their own laissez-faire attitude toward
DH>computer obscenity laws for the last ten years.  Most people figure out
DH>whether something's illegal by looking to see if the police are arresting
DH>people for doing it. While this is no excuse for pursuing clearly criminal
DH>activity, Davis' acts were, at worst, in a grey area of arguable criminality
DH>Now the police are overeager to make an example out of him, after entirely
DH>failing to give any guidance on just what counts as criminal conduct when it
DH>comes to adult materials.

DH>In the overzealous police raid and arrest of Tony Davis, everyone loses.
DH>Davis loses his freedom and his property, and he already lost much of his
DH>reputation as a business man. The users of the Oklahoma Information Exchange
DH>BBS lost. They trusted that they had rights of privacy from the government,
DH>and the Oklahoma City police betrayed that trust. The police will lose as
DH>well if they are held responsible for their gross violations of warrant
DH>procedures. If anyone decides to sue them, maybe they'll be kind enough to
DH>videotape it so we can watch it all later on TV.

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DH>                                                                
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From: WYATT WOLFE                            Number: 6191
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 10/15/93  4:13a
Subj: gettin' in step                         Refer: NONE
Read: 10/17/93  7:42p                       Private: No 

Tim,
       Not a vender first off... but is there not in fact a C_forsale
(commercial for sale) echo, sponsered by FIDO.. If not, just wondering, because
any time I put any of my personal info in it, the moderator says its not for
home sales.. so in fact, this makes your statement of FIDO rules saying
"Commercial Advertising is not allowed in FIDO inacurate... I am not just
pulling this outta the blue.. I pay for my echos like most.. and have had this
C_FORSALE echo from the get go..  would it not be in FIDO's best intrest to
direct the misled to the right echo, then to ban them from them all?

Wyatt Wolfe
1:114/214

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6192
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 10/14/93 11:28p
Subj: my order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CK>Howdy mike.... jsut wondering if you got my order off with no problems? I
CK>ordered Peir 2&3.
CK>(the name on the credit card was MIKE MACSWEEN to refreash your memory)

Went out on 10/4 Chris by insured Airmail.  Customs can sometimes play
a part here, so please be patient.

Thanks,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6193
  To: THOMAS SECORN                            Date: 10/14/93 11:28p
Subj: NICE TRY                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I wonder if you realize that calls to an 800-line can be traced.  Be
chatting with you soon.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6194
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 10/14/93 11:28p
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RD>          That wasn't a nasty message and the reason it was sent
RD>was because my order had not arrived.  Let's get some FACTS
RD>straight here Doug:-
RD>P.S.  I notice that the 5th CD, which was ordered, was advertised
RD>in your price list published on 6th of September AND in the last
RD>price list published, but still hasn't been shipped.

Ron,

Which title was it?  Maybe we have it in stock.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6195
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/14/93 11:28p
Subj: OS/2BOX ETA                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

           ______________________________________________________
          |                                                      |
          |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #3:  CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS   |
          |______________________________________________________|

            We are now taking pre-orders on the following title.
             - Cards are not processed until date of shipment -
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |      Title:  CD OS/2BOX       |  |   Price:  $29   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

                       - DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE -

     For those of you who have placed your pre-orders with us for this
     terrific new CD, and are waiting patiently, we thank you.  Due to
     production delays, the ETA has been pushed back a couple of weeks,
     and Starvector should begin shipping around October 25th.  The good
     news is that the guys at Damar have taken advantage of this delay to
     add some brand new shareware titles, making OS/2Box the only TRULY
     "current" OS/2 CD on the market.  The wait will be worth it folks!

     You all know about the great track record of Damar's previous
     releases:  CD-Winbox and CD-Powerbox.  Well, get ready OS/2 users,
     because the BEST and most RECENT OS/2 shareware CD is almost here!
     The demand will be high so get your name on our list if you want
     to be among the first to try out this brand new title!

     * Slick, mouse-driven graphic user interface for OS/2
     * Consists of 100% OS/2 2.0+ shareware applications. No old version
       1.x files
     * Fully BBS-ready
     * 350+mb total
     * To begin shipping around October 25th
     * FREE shipping on all preorders

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6196
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/14/93 11:29p
Subj: NEW CD-ROM TITLES                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #1:  NEW CD ARRIVALS   |
           |____________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

 9000 SOUNDS * From weird sound effect to musical scores. BBS-Ready.....$25
 AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK 93/94 * New release. 11,000,000 businesses.$25
 ARIZONA IMAGES * Fabulous photos of the Arizona desert country.........$25
 CANADIAN SHAREWARE * Nice job by Betacorp on this new shareware CD!....$22
>COMPUTER REFERENCE LIBRARY * Tutorials for popular software packages...$13
>DAY OF THE TENTACLE * Stop the mutated purple tentacle!................$44
 DINOSAURS! * Fabulous interactive, multimedia Dinosaur directory on CD.$34
 DR. MUSIC * Brand new offering loaded with sound and music files.......$20
 DR. GAMES * Hours upon hours of gameplaying mayhem! BBS-Ready..........$20
 DR. SHAREWARE * Just another shareware CD? No - this one's excellent!..$20
 DR. WINDOWS * Games, utilities, productivity, business, it's all here..$20
 FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$30
 GARDENING * Complete handbook for the home gardener on ROM!............$13
>L.A. STRIPPERS * R-Rated movie with beautiful girls & rock-n-roll......$49
 LAN MASTER * High quality Networking utilities & technical notes.......$27
 LEARNING HEAVEN * Mind challenging educational games...................$23
 MAC MULTIMEDIA SPACE * A M/M space adventure for Macintosh only........$39
 MAC SHAREWARE * A great CD full of current Mac shareware for Mac only..$24
>MAD DOG MCCREE * Great shoot 'em up game with real, full-motion video..$49
>NIGHT OWL 10 * The newest from Night Owl's with 5100 1993 files!.......$29
>PC KARAOKE * Complete Karaoke package with microphone! Great CD sound..$68
 PIER 3 * 650+mb of all new material w/ no dupes to Pier 1 or 2.........$39
 PRECISION MAPPING 1.5 * Newest release! Detailed street-level map......$75
 PROJECT GUTENBERG * Texts from Project Gutenberg for 1991-1993.........$22
>PUBLISHER'S POWERHOUSE * 750 TrueType fonts + 8200 PCX images w/ book!.$33
 REEL CLIPS * 600mb of royalty-free digital video clips.................$35
 SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
>SHAREWARE STUDIO 3 * All new files with NO dupes to Night Owl 10!......$25
 STRAIGHT FROM HEAVEN * Great new religious CD w/ several online Bibles.$23
 STREET ATLAS v2 * Finally, we have an update with tons of new data!....$95

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: BOB JOHNSTONE                          Number: 6197
  To: CRAIG CASTLEBERRY                        Date: 10/14/93 10:04p
Subj: GETTIN' IN STEP                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > If the truth be know, Fidonet is riddled with Comercial Post. From
 > Shareware venders to Modem companys providing Technical Support. To
 > Small Business Trying to make a buck. The Most active Echos We have 
 > From Our Users are the Forsale Echos. I thinks its a mistake for anyone 
 > to mess with these areas. If Sysops do not want to pay the small amout 

 There has been some talk in the ZEC echo about ONE echo which supports
software from a company which charges a yearly $60 support fee for responding
in echomail with support.  If I owned the company, I would not give support
free to those who do not pay it either.  But in the same echo, Sysops answer
questions from those who are using the shareware version, and some support even
comes from the employees.  If they took all the echos out of FidoNet that
support commercial enterprises, they would probably pull a hundred or more
echos.  I doubt it will happen.

 One of the most popular echos on my BBS, read by more users is CFORSALE, that
also is a strictly commercial echo, anyone who does not have a retail business
is not even allowed to post an advertisement in the echo.   Any sysop who has a
CDRom online probably reads this echo.

 Most of the HUBS in FidoNet have paid for distribution of echos they never
use, which others find of great value.  If they all stopped distributing echos
they dont use, it would tie up the backbone so badly a majority of echos would
be lost.

 Many in FidoNet accuse others of attempting to "control" echomail, yet some of
those who are nit picky about echos such as this one would be up in arms if
anyone ever threatened to remove one of their favorite echos.





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From: RUSS HUNTLEY                           Number: 6198
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 10/14/93 10:20p
Subj: cd Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would appreicate it if you could send me a cd-rom Catalog. thanks alot.


Hungry Farmer BBS
32633 Bush Garden Dr.
Harrisburg, Oregon 97446
(any Questiong Call the Board 1:152/33  or (503)995-8110.

Thank You very Much, I am looking for the best in a shareware cd-rom for a
bbs, any suggestions? ANYONE! is (Night Owl better that Monster Media, Or is
there a difference) I am Running SBBS, With a double speed CD-ROM. Thanks



Russ Huntley (Sprout)  :)

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From: RUSS HUNTLEY                           Number: 6199
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/14/93 10:28p
Subj: trade                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a trade for THE SEVENTH GUEST OR A "Latest Shareware cd-rom
title"  I can trade Aces of pacific,  Sherlock Holmes, " I am willing to throw
in ROAD AND TRACK if any one wants either Aces Or Sherlock, They Can have the
R&T also, for THE SEVENTH GUEST, OR ANY OTHER INTERESTING CD-ROM TITLE, ALSO
LOOKING FOR WING COMMANDER 1 THE DELUXE EDITION!   LEave any messages to RUss
Huntley, Or call the hungry Farmer bbs  (503)995-8110,  1:152/33  Thank You
very much. might be able to throw in some $$$$!  Thanks



Russ Huntley

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From: CRAIG SHEPPARD                         Number: 6200
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/13/93  9:25p
Subj: Wing Cmdr 2/Ult. Undrwrld               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a Wing Commander 2/Ultima Underworld CD-ROM for sale.

It has hardly been used at all, and comes with all manuals and reference
cards. (no reg. card)

*****WING COMMANDER 2/ULITMA UNDERWORLD CD --> $45

If interested, and cannot reply here, contact:

Internet: CraigS4557@aol.com
        or
Craig Sheppard
74 Colonial Terrace
Bridgeton, NJ 08302-4105

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From: ROB O'DELL                             Number: 6201
  To: REX ROOF                                 Date: 10/14/93  5:38p
Subj: NEC Portable CD-ROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> How fast are they??

about 400ms average and 150k transfer rate..


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From: REX ROOF                               Number: 6202
  To: ROB O'DELL                               Date: 10/14/93  9:17p
Subj: NEC Portable CD-ROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

So it connects with a standard SCSI CD rom interface?


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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 6203
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 10/15/93 12:09a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  Sure thing, Max.  You should receive a catalog soon.  Thank you for
 > your interest.

Please add my name also.



... Steve Gerweck, 530 Concetta Drive, Monroe, MI 48161-3542
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 6204
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/15/93 10:12a
Subj: Re: BB II & SHOWOFF                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <10-14-93 10:01> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> The end-user CUSTOMERS will be the big winners here.

We think so ! Sysops will be pleased too.

BJ>> Any chance of getting my copy autographed by thou?

You bet, your disc was sent overnight on Friday (15th)--You will enjoy the
spelling error on the back of the cover (Arrghhhhh.....oh well, makes me
human)--This disc was a labor of love :) Breech........Saturday delivery.

My picture ??? Egads, ! I have 20 pounds more to go, and I promise you one !
But, I get one of yours !

Im anxious for you to play with BB II, it should without a doubt set the
industry standard for licensed collections. For T&A, its going to be a tough
disc to beat.

Now, there are not 150ZZZ Busty women on this disc, just alot of bust
photography (naturally)--Very California done, outdoors, beach, pools, jacuzzi
etc....


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 6205
  To: TOM HUNT                                 Date: 10/15/93 10:15a
Subj: Re: Hot Pix                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Tim Schooler <10-14-93 21:09> Tom Hunt wrote:

TH>> I only paid $20 apiece for Hot Pix 2,3,4 what makes Hot Pix 1 so
TH>> valuable

Beastiality, skat(defecation), puke shots, water sports etc--It represents a
total disregard for federal law--No just samplings of the hardcore disciplines,
but directories of these type of things.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: RUSTY ATKINS                           Number: 6206
  To: ALL DEALERS                              Date: 10/13/93  5:52p
Subj: Off-Topic, On-Target                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Just a note to the curious dealers out there. I do not order much in the way
of adult CD's, well, more than most I guess, being a sysop. 

    The dealers want to wimp-out because of government pressure, well, It
applies to the SysOps also. If you want my business, (and that of many people
I know), you will continue to sell adult materials. We will not knowingly
purchase any computer equipment, software, etc, from a dealer that has quit
selling adult materials. If you want to card us, fine, I have no problem with
that. I'd do it to everyone if it was my business. 
   We will not frequent trade shows, stores, or anyplace else that has barred
this material. I'm not a pervert, I'm an american. If you wish to give-up the
freedom to run your business as you like, BEFORE things even get hot, feel
free, but I won't be there to support you. I am not willing to support people
who seem to almost LIKE the idea of the government controlling ever aspect of
your life. (what would you say if your MOTHER told you that you shouldn't
touch that stuff? Assuming you are of age, you would probably tell her where
to go.) You can't make the same stand for yourself though, when you are PAYING
someone to tell you the same thing. 

 Nuff said. If you wish to continue this conversation, please do so by
netmail. (I can be reached at 1:2410/353). 

I want to apologize to the moderator for being off-topic, but I feel it is
about time that someone spoke-up about this.

                        Sincerly,
                        Rusty Atkins

We now return to our regularly scheduled program.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6207
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/14/93 12:23p
Subj: ADULT CD ROM'S                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>But I *DO* fit into one of the top 3 male
>fantasies......for real. Think MENSA, and figure it out :)))))

That's EASY - if it wasn't for the excessive political postering, I'd BE in
MENSA (qualified many years ago)....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6208
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 10/14/93 12:24p
Subj: COOL CD-ROM GAMES                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Have you looked at
> the game Chess Maniac 5 Billion in 1.  I don't believe it is a CD
> game

I sell that CD at $47, shipping included....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Do I believe in the Bible? Shoot, man, I've SEEN one!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6209
  To: MARK GREENHAW                            Date: 10/14/93 12:26p
Subj: CD-ROM REVIEW: HACKER                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Hacker Chronicles can be ordered from Crocodile Computers at (205)477-6176 for
>a cost of $29.00 +S&H.

I sell it at $22 WITH shipping....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Ever notice how many taglines originated from RAH?

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6210
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 10/14/93 12:28p
Subj: CLIPART CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Can someone reccommend a GODD Clipart CD.

Colormagic has gotten a lot of good mentions....


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 6211
  To: BILL PEARSON                             Date: 10/15/93  5:17a
Subj: Re: Night Owl $29                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 11 Oct 93  10:28:00, I heard Bill Pearson shout to Kevin Plummer:

KP>                  N i g h t   O w l   10.0 
BP> Please give me a combo price on NO 8,9 & 10. 

I don't know about the price for a Package Deal, Please call 1-800-638-5757, 
and ask them.  Thanks !

                        ......|<evin

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From: KURT ANNO                              Number: 6212
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/15/93  5:11p
Subj: ROM DRIVES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am currently looking for a rom drive for my daughter. I want a good drive,
but of course, do not want to spend alot of money. I don't know the difference
from a drive that costs $195 to one that costs $500. Any info would be greatly
appreciated.

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From: KURT ANNO                              Number: 6213
  To: BORIS O.                                 Date: 10/15/93  5:26p
Subj: Rom drive                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I was told by afriend of mine who runs a bbs, Mike Shepard, to contact you
about a cd-rom drive. I want one for my daughter,as well as myself, but I can't
afford a huge sum of money. He told me to mention the Texel drive. Could you
give me some more information on this drive?? He also stated that you may have
an 800#, if so could you leave that as well??

Thanks, Kurt



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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 6214
  To: JOHN RICKER                              Date: 10/15/93 12:16a
Subj: hacker chronicles                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     Hello, John.  I have noticed that you are looking for the Hacker 
 Chronicles CD.  We sell it at Computer Works for $25.00.  We would 
 ship it 2 Day Priority Mail, and shipping rates are $4.00 for up to 5 
 CD's, and $0.50 for every CD after the first 5.  I hope I have been of 
 help, and thank you for your time. 
                                            Mark
 
 Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! 
 (205) 671-0092 - BBS 
 (205) 793-4481 - Voice 
 SysOp - Jim Lambert  CoSysOp - Mark Clardy
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6215
  To: BILL DEERTZ                              Date: 10/16/93  2:13a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->> Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $739.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1169.  -S

>>    Are both of these Pioneer multiple disc players SCSI format?
>>    Are these internal or external?

The answer to the above is yes on both !

Need further information, please feel free to drop us a note via the
fidonet below or call us direct at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be
happy to help you further.

Chat with you soon.....

Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6216
  To: ERIC SANTELICES                          Date: 10/16/93  2:13a
Subj: Re: So Much Shareware I & II            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I have so much Shareware vol I and II is there a vol III?
>>    If so where can I get it?

Have it in stock !!

Give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy
to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Now 100% QWK Compatible! More bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6217
  To: KAWAI WONG                               Date: 10/16/93  2:13a
Subj: Re: Swimwear & MOD CDs needed!!!        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    To all vendors:

>>            I am looking for a swimwear GIF CD and a MOD/MIDI/WAV
>>            CD for my BBS, but am not sure which one I should get
>>     and how much are they.  Any help is appreciated.  Thanx.


We have a cd called " Soundware " that will give you more sound files
than you'll know what to do with, over 10,000 in all !!

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and
we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6218
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/16/93  2:13a
Subj: Night Owl 10                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                A L L   N E W   N I G H T  O W L  10

* Over 5,100 NEW Files   * Over 647 Meg's    * No Dupes   * Virus Checked
* No Dupes To v9.0       * All Zipped Files  * New Viewer * and  More  !!
The  ALL NEW  "Night Owl 10 "  is here  and ready  for  delievery  !! All
programs on this cd were written or updated between Jan 1st and  Sept 1st
1993.  In fact, 100megs of the total files are from Sept 1993.In addition,
N.O has a mouse driven GUI interface for both DOS and Windows !!
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6219
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/16/93  2:13a
Subj: Pier 3                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*************************   P I E R   3  ******************************

            New Shareware CD from "The Pier Exchange
          600 + Megs Of The Latest Shareware Programs

                         PRICE  -  $25.00

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6130

************************************************************************

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6220
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/16/93  2:13a
Subj: CDROM Systems                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00  Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare   - $379.00  NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $249.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $739.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1169.  -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms Bare Dr - $369.00  Texel Ext 245ms Bare  - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int 3021 Bare  Dr - $189.00  Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $389.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00  Mitsumi w/Sound Card  - $325.00 -PRPR
 Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50.  ALL ChestNuts CD's $12.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

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From: STEAN SNYMAN                           Number: 6221
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/14/93  3:10p
Subj: info on CD's                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hello Mike!

Monday October 11 1993, Mike Shannon writes to Stean Snyman:

 MS> Airmail insured would be $14.  Airmail small packet (non-insured) would
 MS> be $6.

Ok, thanks..  I'll yell here if I get the money. :)

Adios
Stean

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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 6222
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/16/93 12:34a
Subj: ratings                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 10-11-93  20:15 Bob Jackson said something about Review of super smutware,
to which I reply: 

 BJ> G - Non-nudity you can see most anywhere including "thong"
 BJ> bikinis and wet T-shirts.

 No PG? I would put thongs and wet t-shirts at "PG." Surely there is a
 relevant difference in intended audience between them and, say,
 landscapes. (Personally, I prefer the landscapes, but that's another
 story...)



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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 6223
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 10/15/93  9:54a
Subj: CD Player                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to Tim Helton, Pat Rickerson said:
PR> great. I am not a dealer just a housewife that tries to find
PR> deals for anyone and everyone here in the bottom of Texas. 
 
Hello, recently I purchased four Hitachi CD ROM Drives and I want to buy four
more, but the guy I bought them from doesn't have any more. These are old
3500/3600 series drives.  I have seen prices on these drives anywhere from $60
to $99 each.  Can you help me get more of these drives?  Thanks in advance for
your help.
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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 6224
  To: DAVID ROBERTS                            Date: 10/15/93 10:14a
Subj: 4 CD-Rom Drives 4-Sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested for sure.  I bought four of them from Terry and I want more,
but he says he can't get anymore.  I would like to buy all four.  You can
reach me at 804/340-9138.  Thanks in advance!
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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 6225
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 10/15/93  1:32p
Subj: CD ROM Failure                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

This is addressed to Terry Blount, but anyone with experience with Hitachi CD
ROM Drives can reply.
 
I had a problem with the four drive Hitachi CD ROM Drive setup where the third
drive consistently failed after a couple of minutes of operation.  It would
simply say 'file not found' if you did a directory listing.  I was looking at
the DOS SETVER Table and noticed that MSCDEX and HITACHI.SYS BOTH appeared in
the Table.  Is it possible that my failure was due to my using HITACHIA.SYS
WITHOUT an entry in the DOS SETVER Table?  Any other ideas what could cause
the third drive and only the third drive to fail?  The third drive was
replaced three times (three DIFFERENT drives) and had the same symptoms with
all three drives.  Bought a new HITACHI Interface Card (part# CD-IF18-S) AND
had ANOTHER cable made up.  Drive three still failed.  Noticed that removing
and reinserting the CD would fix the problem for another couple of minutes. 
Replaced CD and Caddy, problem persisted.  Moved Drive, controller and cable
to another computer and hooked up drive 3 as drive 1, still failed.  Any
ideas?
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From: BRETT PARKER                           Number: 6226
  To: CHET HART                                Date: 10/15/93  8:42p
Subj: CD-ROM for trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Chet Hart scribbled in a message to All:

CH>    I'm willing to trade the adult CD-ROM

I have the Comptons Multi Media Encyclopedia that I will be willing to trade,
it is 1991 vintage, and works very well.

--Brett

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From: DAVID TORIX                            Number: 6227
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/15/93 12:29p
Subj: Order Received                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Thanks for the prompt response Mike.  Discs got here today, Thursday.

Dave
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From: ROB MCINTYRE                           Number: 6228
  To: BOBBY WIENHOLT                           Date: 10/16/93 12:26a
Subj: Cd Rom list 1 of 3                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Gifs Galore for $30 ? Good Luck ! Walnut Creek sells 'em for $24.99 so that's
it's regular price.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 6229
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/15/93  7:50p
Subj: Review of High Volume Nudes             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                         HIGH VOLUME NUDES
                         =================

Many thanks to Mike Shannon of Starvector for providing a copy of
the adult CD High Volume Nudes (HVN) for review.  Like all of my
previous reviews, this one is available for FREQing (Node ID:
1:106/30) or downloading (713-589-2690 to 14.4) from file area #22
of the Hard Disc Cafe BBS in Houston, TX .  Other boards may carry
them as well - ask your sysop. Guest downloads from The Hard Disc
Cafe are available by using the login ID of CD REVIEW.  No password
will be required.  The ZIPped file name for this review is HVN.ZIP.

This review contains four major sections: General - Miscellaneous
comments that didn't seem to belong in any other section; Statistics
- some quantitative, measurable characteristics of the CD;
Operations - a more qualitative analysis of the "usability" aspects
of the CD which tries to consider factors of interest to both the
sysop and the end-user; and Visual - a purely qualitative opinion of
the intrinsic qualities of the images themselves.  Note that section
boundaries are not inviolate.

To those of you who have read some of my previous reviews of adult
CDs, you will be familiar territory with this one as well.  If
you're a "new" reader, let me iterate: I am NOT an expert (whatever
that is) on adult (or any other kind of) CDs.  Accordingly, what
follows is ONE PERSON'S OPINION.

General
=======

This CD is a very slickly produced, if somewhat strange adult CD.
It's the product of New Machine Publishing (though the
identification "ROMVLVS Entertainment" (the V's are really U's ergo
"ROMULUS") also appears on the packaging.  The jewel case has both
front and back inserts. The folded page of the front insert is a
clip-off registration form. The rear insert (complete with titled
edges - yea!) gives both Macintosh and PC requirements as well as
some copyright warnings, etc.

Interestingly, the Macintosh requirements are simply stated as
"Color Machines Recommended - 8-Bit Minimum - 2MB RAM Minimum" No
processor or OS requirements are listed.  The pertinent PC
requirements are given as Windows 3.1, DOS 5.0, 8 or 16 bit video
card, and (get this) "386 Or faster" (sic).  Apparently the
producers are no more savvy about compute requirements than Vivid
Digital. As we'll see, even a 386-40 would be minimal; a 386-16
unusable.

The rear insert also claims "500 high quality hardcore photos of
centerfold nudes." IMO, this is numerically correct only.

Statistics
==========

This will take a bit of explanation as I must depart from my usual
format to report my findings. Like Girls of Vivid (GOV), HVN eschews
the GIF format. Instead its publishers have chosen to use the PICT
(.PIC) format from the Apple Quicktime software. Again, like GOV,
HVN has file names like 1.PIC, 2.PIC, etc. Unlike GOV, HVN has NO
file description files at all.

To further complicate matters, HVN has for all practical purposes
replicated its "500 pictures" in two main sub-directories: \HICOLOR
and \LOCOLOR. (In point of fact, I found only 463 .PIC files in HI
and 465 .PIC files in LO.) The \HICOLOR files are, according to the
built-in viewer (see Operations), JPEG compressions of (I'm
guessing) 24-bit images. The \LOCOLOR files are all 8-bit color.

Both \HICOLOR and \LOCOLOR are themselves further divided up into
five sub-directories each. The former's subs are: \DENMARK, \EGYPT,
\UTAH (how'd that get in there?), \YEMEN, and \ZIMBABWE; the
latter's are \ICELAND, \MALAYSIA, \PARAGUAY, \SCOTLAND, and \SWEDEN.
Now before anyone gets excited and supposes that these names
represent the places of origin of the ladies whose likenesses appear
therein, let me say emphatically that I found no visual evidence to
support that interpretation.

In general, these country-named subdirectories are paired across the
HI and LO directories in the order given. For example,
\HICOLOR\EGYPT\20.PIC in 24-bit JPEG (?) is the same image as
\LOCOLOR\MALAYSIA\20.PIC. in 8-bit PIC. While this correspondence
isn't 100% true, it's near enough to make the point moot. (Note: ALL
files in these directories have the .PIC extension. The built-in
viewer indicates JPEG when displaying an image from the \HICOLOR
set.)

As with GOV, there's obviously no need to run HVN's file names
against the "grassroots" GIF name data base - so I didn't.

Operations - Sysop
==================

This is a null topic. As mentioned, there are NO files with image
descriptions in them. Further, the packaging clearly indicates
copyright notices which would seem to preempt any use save personal
viewing. Then there's the matter of the PICT format which, in
general, renders the files useless to anyone without an appropriate
viewer. The overwhelming popularity of the GIF format (as well as
PCX, BMP, and to a lesser extent TIFF and TGA) has suppressed
widespread production or availability of PICT decoders.

Operations - End User
=====================

If you're NOT an Windows 3.1 user and have no intentions or interest
in becoming one, you can stop right here. This is, in PC-land, a
Windows 3.1 ONLY CD if you want/have to use the built-in viewer. The
good news is that installation simply creates a new program group
called (surprise, surprise) "New Machine Publishing" with four icons
inside. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING copied to the HDD (YEA!). The
four icons are for the PICTure viewer, a Quicktime .MOV viewer, a
READ.ME file, and a SAMPLER of other products from the same company.
The bad news (for starters) is that since the PICTure viewer is
setup to run directly from the CD, there's no way to configure it
for individual video setups. Since I run Windows in 800x600x256
mode, trying to view the \HICOLOR images resulted in very poor
results. Using the \LOCOLOR images, the viewer SEEMED to be
defaulting to about 640x480 resolution since I had to select at
least a 50% size reduction to get anything more than the upper left
corner of any image into view without using the elevator bar
(something one does NOT want to do with this product).

More bad news: PICTure viewer is s-s-s-s-s-l-l-l-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-w
to say the least. On a 486DX2/66 it took over 15 seconds to decode a
\HICOLOR image and about 5-6 seconds for a \LOCOLOR image.
Comparably sized (i.e. same resolution) GIFs decode on this machine
in about 1-2 seconds from the same CD drive. Granted, GIFs are by
nature smaller files so there's more data to be read when using
other formats. While this poor showing by the PICTure viewer/.PIC
combination is far better than the PICBASE/CTIF combination of GOV,
it still rapidly becomes tedious.

Still more bad news: Aside from the "controls" provided by Windows
itself (e.g. scroll bars, etc.), PICTure viewer adds little in the
way of functionality. For example, there is no provision for
selecting multiple files for a "slide show" (a la WINGIF).  Outside
of a very limited "sizing" function with fixed step increments (e.g.
25%, 50%, etc.), there are no image manipulation functions.

The bright side, if there is one, is that the printing function was
fairly decent. It provided a full page image (8-1/2 x 11) in a
nearly usable halftone-looking format at 180x180 DPI resolution on
my BJ-200 ink jet printer. Sadly, even though it apparently tried, I
couldn't get it to print at 360x360 resolution. After about 30
seconds of "work", whatever it handed to Print Manager to print


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 6230
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/15/93  7:50p
Subj: Review of High Volume Nudes             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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didn't result in anything but a rapid exit.

Operations summary: Mediocre functionality and poor performance.

Visual
======

Because of the slow response time from PICTure viewer, I didn't look
at a LOT of HVN's images. Nonetheless, I'm confident that I saw
enough to render some generalizations about the disc as a whole, but
keep in mind that my conclusions are based on a relatively small
sample.

As far as subject matter goes, HVN's images belong in the "Penthouse
centerfold" category. In my own personal rating system, they'd get
an "R" or  "Hard R". As far as image quality goes, (and here I speak
of only the \LOCOLOR images for reasons already mentioned) I'd have
to say they're only fair to good. Clearly the original photography
was excellent. However, the transition to electronic form, by
whatever path, resulted in images frequently marred by "blotchy"
areas. That is, areas that were apparently highlighted in the
original photos (like a cheek or forehead) often appear, well,
"blotchy".

In my admittedly small sample, I didn't see any images with more
than one person in it, nor did I see any images with males in them.
There were quite a few images that drew attention to the genital
area, but none that involved any activity other than exhibitionism.

Bottom line: HVN is marginally better than Girls of Vivid, but it's
cut from the same cloth. It pales in comparison to the well-made GIF
CDs. The images are so-so, the interface abysmal - even for Windows.
The viewer's performance is unacceptable on a '486-66 and likely
painful on anything much slower.  With licensed GIF collections here
and more on the way, my advice to shoppers would be to give this CD
a high volume "No, thanks!".

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From: DON NELSON                             Number: 6231
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/15/93  2:45a
Subj: Star Vector                             Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike,

I see the new catalog no longer has the old style Adult CD's listed.  Is Star
Vector moving out of the Adult CD's business, or just to the fully licensed
type disks?

I have not seen any posts that indicate that, but I miss mail (fido screwups)
sometimes.

Do you have any old style CD's still around?  (If you are moving toward the
licensed collections.)

Thanks,

.dn 
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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 6232
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/14/93  9:43a
Subj: For Sale...                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have rimfire pacific for sale

24+shipping

Call me at (305)7822631 or leave message

s


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From: BRIAN KURKOWSKI                        Number: 6233
  To: CRAIG CASTLEBERRY                        Date: 10/14/93  5:33p
Subj: Re: GETTIN' IN STEP                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I agree, don't boot off the vendors. I read this particular conference for
current CD-ROM information. The best info so far has come from the vendors. And
keep up the reviews, I for one, appreciate it. The Ismail flames are pretty
amusing too <GR>.


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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 6234
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/14/93 10:05p
Subj: Netware Shareware CD-ROM                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the sixth edition of
its Netware CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The October 1993 CD-ROM has
974 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 125,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: RICK SHOAF                             Number: 6235
  To: TOM HUNT                                 Date: 10/16/93 12:34a
Subj: Re: Hot Pix                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TH>I only paid $20 apiece for Hot Pix 2,3,4 what makes Hot Pix 1 so valuable
TH>I was looking to pay around 20-30 for it
TH>thanks


I paid about $20 or $25 for my Hot Pix 1. He probably bought it from
NPWC.

Rick
___
 X OLX 2.1 X ... Sure when  OINK FLAP OINK FLAP.. Well I'll be darned!

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From: MATT DEHAVEN                           Number: 6236
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/16/93  8:47a
Subj: Cd for Sell                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

i got Sherlock home for Sell on cd... a good Game and fun to play
  30$ OBO
    
      C-YA
         Matt DeHaven


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6237
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 10/14/93  4:02p
Subj: TAX                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>BF>              All prices include any applicable Sales Tax

>Hello Brice.  You may want to reconsider the above wording.  I know  where I
>am, it is not legal to do it that way, even though it makes  sense.

It's legal in the state I am in.

>They claim that they are losing money since the tax base is a smaller amount
>when you take it out of the standard price.

"They" are idiots if they think that the "standard" price hasn't been raised by
the retailer(s) in question to reflect the tax charge involved.

>Just something to think about.  Hope you don't mind. :)

That's OK - I have seen some states where the point you raise is a problem....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Neil Armstrong TRIPPED!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6238
  To: RON THOMPSON                             Date: 10/14/93  4:33p
Subj: MACINTOSH TITLES                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>   I am looking for Arthur's Teacher Trouble, and Just Grandma and Me on Cdrom
>for Macintosh.

I can go $85 for the pair, shipping included.

>I was quoted a price of $18.00 on the ATT disk (over the phone from a certain
>nameless company), but, when it arrived, the bill was for $49.00

They likely didn't pick up on the "Macintosh" version or realise that Mac stuff
often costs a LOT more. It the specific case of ATT, the cost to me AS A DEALER
is more than double the cost of the DOS version - almost 2.5 times, to be more
precise. I can only get it from ONE of the distributors I deal with regularly,
as opposed to 3 of them that carry the DOS version.
 I also suspect that the $18 quote did NOT include shipping....

>   Why not get the prices on Mac Cdroms more in line with those for the IBM?

When Mac titles sell anywhere NEAR as many copies, that will happen - but it's
REAL unlikely with PC-Clones having 10+ TIMES as meny machines in the field....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Blame not on Stupidity what is explained by Ignorance.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6239
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/14/93  6:50p
Subj: A PUBLIC APPEAL                         Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

>A problem exists in Fidoland, and it has just recently come to my attention.
>There exists a Fido policy which basically states that routed Netmail is not
to
>be used for the purposes of transacting any type of commercial business.

It's not part of Policy, but rather appears to be the efforts of a few *Cs
only.
 On the other hand, it's not specifically addressed by Policy at all....

>I don't know the status of other dealers in this conference

I'm the Sysop of Star Fleet Battles (see Origin line).

>but for the sake of the
>conference and the echo, let's lay off the Netmail, at least for the purposes
>of conducting business.

Policy specifically points out that NON-ROUTED Net Mail for commercial purposes
is fine, and cited at least one example where that was given as the cure for a
"bombing problem".

>Lastly, I would just like to stress that this IS important, as several zone
>coordinators have petitioned to have CDROM_SALE, COMMERCIAL 4SALE, and various
>other conferences removed from the backbone because of over-commercialization,
>which technically is a violation of Fidonet policy.

Given that at least one of the Backbone sites is a commercial entity, I doubt
that this will happen. It IS a good idea to keep the *C structure "calm and
collected" as much as possible, though....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Reading Heinlein, Floyd listening. It don't get better!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6240
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 10/15/93 12:36p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>BF> * SLMR 2.1a * ___ ___. ._.. __. ._ _ ___ ._. _.__  _._. .__  _ ._ __.

>This would have been easy to read had it been spelled correctly.

I shall correct this - it was "liberated" from someone else, and I didn't look
at it closely enough.

-.. . -.- ..-. ----. ..-. --

 (and BOY did the FCC blow THAT call - I've had an FM rig less than 6 months
out of 20+ years as a Ham!)

 .... .. .... ..



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 * SLMR 2.1a * Flying: art of throwing yourself at ground and missing

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6241
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 10/15/93  1:38p
Subj: GETTIN' IN STEP                         Refer: NONE
Read: 10/17/93  8:45p                       Private: No 

>We've ventured outside of the toleration zone.  Some vendors are using this
>echo to conduct "one on one" business with their customers - posts that don't
>"benefit everyone".  These type messages will no longer be tolerated.

Thank you.

Now if we can just educate a couple of the RC/REC types about Routed
Netmail....


 * SLMR 2.1a * No device error attempting to read user's mind....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6242
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/15/93  4:30p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE      1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                              Brice's Library
                      CD-ROM Price List 15 October 1993

                       5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
                           Indianapolis, IN 46220
                         Tue Thu  11 AM - 8 PM   EST
                         Wed Fri  11 AM - 6 PM   EST
                             (317) 726-1980 voice
                             (317) 726-1387 BBS

                 All prices include any applicable Sales Tax
                     Shipping included to U.S. addresses

  19 501 Sound Waves                    25 Chessmaster 3000
  25 9000 Sounds                        24 CIA World Fact Book
  30 About Cows                         30 CIA World Fact Book (MultiMedia)
  30 ADA Programming                    15 CICA Windows
  20 Adventures of Willy Beamish        30 Classic Clips Trailers
  70 Ageis Guardian Fleet               50 Classic Collection+ (4 discs)
  58 Air Warrier                        29 Clipart Galore
  69 Amanda Stories                     12 Clip Art Goliath
  25 American Business Phone Book '92   15 Clipart Heaven
  29 American Business Phone Book '93   30 Coates Art Review: Impressionism
  38 American Vista                     26 Colormagic Clip Art
  60 American Vista (MAC)               12 Colossal Cookbook
  35 American Vista Atlas MPC           12 Complete Bookshop
  13 America's Premier Shareware        15 Complete Home/Office Legal Guide
  15 Anecdotes                          35 Composer Quest
  22 Animals of San Diego Zoo (DOS)     29 Compton's Family Choice
  22 Animals of San Diego Zoo (MPC)    259 Compton's Family Encyclopedia
  30 Animation Festival (MPC)           97 Compton's Interactive Encycl.
  25 Arthur's Teacher Trouble (MPC)     14 Computer Referance Library
  19 Audubon's Birds                    30 Conan the Cimmerian (OEM)
  19 Audubon's Mammals (MPC)            44 Conan the Cimmerian
  60 B17 Flying Fortress                51 Conquest of the Longbow
  16 Barney Bear Goes to School         30 Consumer Information Disc
  16 Barney Bear Goes to Space          15 Cookbook Heaven
  20 Battle Chess (original)            60 Corel Art Show III
  25 Battle Chess (enhanced version)    45 Creation Stories
  19 Beauty and the Beast               16 Cybergenic Ranger
  27 Beyond the Wall of Stars           34 Dagger of Amon Ra
  16 Britannica Select Software         25 Danger, Hot Stuff II
  10 Business Assistant                 60 Dare Bluff or Die!
  18 Business Master I                  24 Data Base Made Easy
  40 Business Phone Directory + ZIPs    12 Deathstar Arcade Battles
  26 C User's Group Library             35 Deep Voyage
  40 Cameron's Fine Art Catalog         15 Desktop Bookshop
  30 Career Opportunities               35 Desktop Publishers Dream Disc
  35 CD CAD v3.7                        12 Dictionaries and Languages
  20 CD Powerbox                        40 Dictionary of Living World (OEM)
  48 CD ROM Deluxe Pack                 35 Digital Tours: World of Flight
  20 CD WinBox                          35 Digital Tours: World of Trains
  47 Chess Maniac 5 Billion             38 Digital Tours: USA Tour
  30 Dinosaur Adventure                 41 Guy Spy
  26 Dinosaurs! (MPC)                   22 Hacker Chronicles
  20 Dr. Games                          13 Ham Radio #3
  21 Dr. Music                          42 Hamcall
  21 Dr. Shareware                      30 Heather Hits First Home Run
  21 Dr. Windows                        16 Hobbes OS/2 Archives
  54 Dune                               30 Hospitality Index
  19 Education Master                   20 House of Games
  30 Electronic Home Library            45 Indiana Jones & Fate of Atlantis
  27 Encyclopedia of Clipart            31 Info-Mac 1993
  12 Encyclopedia of Sound              21 Interactive Story Time 1
  62 Eric the Unready                   21 Interactive Story Time 2
  30 European Monarchs                  40 Interactive Story Time 3
  37 Eye of the Beholder III (OEM)      20 International Business/Econ Atlas
  60 Eye of the Beholder III            72 Iron Helix
  72 F15 Strike Eagle III               30 J. Schumaker New Prague Cookbook
  23 Family Doctor                      46 Jazz: A Multimedia History
  28 Fantasia Fonts                     23 Jets and Props (2 discs) (OEM)
  72 Fantasy Feifdom                    36 Jets and Props (2 discs)
  20 Font Master Two                    10 Jokes and Pranks
  32 Fonts 1                            19 Jones in the Fast Lane
  25 Fonts for the Professional Pub.    39 Just Grandma & Me
  38 Food Analyst                       41 Jutland
  70 Four Queens Computer Casino        30 KGB World Fact Book
  41 Fractal Ectasy                     17 King's Quest 5
  30 Fractunes                          34 King's Quest 6
  30 Fresh Arte                         26 Klotski Polish Puzzle
  17 Futura: Games that go Beyond       16 Kodak Photo CD Access Software
  60 Future Wars                        28 Lan Master
  10 Game Arena                         40 Languages of the World
  20 Game Master 2'nd Ed.               10 Learning Adventure
  25 Game Pack II                       16 Learning Heaven
  20 Games Bonanza                      40 Libris Britania
  24 Games 1993                         62 Lord of the Rings
  18 Gameware Collection                26 Magazine Rack
  15 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac                   40 Majestic Places
  14 Gardening                          25 Mammals (Nat. Geographic)
  30 GIFs Galaxy                        37 Manhole
  15 GIFs Galore                        20 Mantis Experimental Fighter
  19 Giga Games                         26 Mario is Missing w/World Atlas
  25 Gigabyte Gold                      24 Mavis Beacon Teach Typing (MPC)
  95 Global Explorer                    25 Mayo Clinic (MPC)
  37 Grammy Awards '58-'92              30 McMillan Dictionary for Children
  26 Great Cities vol. 1                36 Microprose Collection
  26 Great Cities vol. 2                59 Microsoft Bookshelf '93 (MPC)
  43 Great Wonders of the World v.1     62 Microsoft Musical Instruments
  45 Great Wonders of the World v.2     50 Microsoft Works
  66 Grolier's Encyclopedia (Mac)       30 Middle East Diary
  41 Grolier's Illustrated Encycl. v5   24 MIDI Music Shop
  45 Grolier's MM Encyclo. v1 (MPC)     19 Mixed Up Mother Goose
  12 Guiness Disc of Records '91        58 Monarch Notes
  15 Guiness Disc of Records '92        32 Money, Money, Money!
  12 Guiness Disc of Records '92 (Mac)  29 Monkey Island
  26 Guiness Disc of Records '93 (MPC)  27 Monster Media '93
  62 Gunship 2000                       32 Mother Earth II
  16 Mother of All Clip Art             19 Reference Library
  16 MPC Wizard                         51 Return of the Phantom
  25 Multimedia Computor Tutor          46 Return to the Moon
  25 National Parks (MultiMedia)        60 Ringworld: Revemge of Patriarch
  35 New Basics Electronic Cookbook     30 Roger Ebert Movie Companion
  20 Night Owl Business Software        26 Sci-Fi Fantasy
  26 Night Owl Graphics                 30 Scouting Report '92
  25 Night Owl 9                        30 Seals of the U.S. Government
  31 Night Owl 10                       26 Secret of Monkey Island
  29 North American Fax Phonebook       26 Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
  26 North American Indians             11 Selectware
  30 Officer's Bookcase                 19 Shakesphere
   9 Original Shareware 1992            30 Shareware Avalanche
  12 Our Solar System                   42 Shareware Explorer (4 discs)
  18 PC Game Room                       40 Shareware Extravaganza (4 discs)
  28 PC Medic                           20 Shareware Galore
  24 PC-SIG #12                         21 Shareware Gold II
  15 PC-SIG World of Games              16 Shareware Heaven
  16 PC-SIG World of Windows            27 Shareware 1993
  28 Pentominoes                        19 Shareware Online #1
  19 Peter and the Wolf (MPC)           25 Shareware Online #2
  30 Pharmacist Guide to Drugs          13 Shareware Overload
  11 Phoenix #3                         16 Shareware Studio #2
  17 Phoenix #4                         18 Shareware Tiger
  75 Phonedisc USA Business             15 Sherlock Holmes
  70 Phonedisc USA Residential          20 Sherlock Holmes Cons. Detect. #1
  25 Pinacotheca Multimedia             52 Sherlock Holmes Cons. Detect. #2
  30 Pixel Garden                       56 Sherlock Holmes Cons. Detect. #3
  33 Pixel Perfect Graphics             15 Simtel 20
  30 Plant Doctor                       26 Sleeping Beauty (MPC)
  29 Playing with Languages  English    29 So Much Screenware
  29 Playing with Languages  French     16 So Much Shareware
  29 Playing with Languages  German     16 So Much Shareware #2
  29 Playing with Languages  Italian    22 So Much Shareware #3
  29 Playing with Languages  Japanese   26 So Much Space
  29 Playing with Languages  Spanish    36 Software Jukebox
  19 Powerpack Gold 3 (update)          16 Software Vault #2


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6243
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/15/93  4:30p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE      1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: MICHEL LABELLE                         Number: 6244
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/15/93  6:42p
Subj: Catalogs!                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Distributors!
 
Please send your catalogs to

Michel Labelle
32 St-Dominique
Hull, Quebec
Canada
J9A-1A2

        I'm really excited about this so send-em fast.  

NOTE: This message does not deserve a reply.  Such action would no doubt cause
a $*^NO CARRIER

... Down with virii!  Practice safe Hex!


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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6245
  To: TOM HUNT                                 Date: 10/15/93  5:17a
Subj: Hot Pix 1                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TOM- I HAVE THESE CD'S FOR $ 99.00 PLUS $ 5.00 SHIPPING. $ 104.00 TOTAL
FAX # 1-602-292-0497

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 6246
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/15/93  8:54p
Subj: Lotus 1-2-3 for $50                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Lotus 1-2-3 for windows, version 1.2 on CD for $50
This is the version before 4.0(current)... they skipped a
lot of numbers to make it even with the DOS version.  Still
a great program.  You cannot beat the price of $50 for it!

Might be willing to trade for other CD's....


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: BOB CENTERBAR                          Number: 6247
  To: JOE REYNOLDS                             Date: 10/15/93  9:47p
Subj: Adult CDs wanted for BBS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 10-10-93 JOE REYNOLDS wrote to ALL... 
 
 JR> I am interested in purchasing some adult cds to run with my BBS. Does 
 JR> anyone know of any titles and where I can get them. 
 JR>  
I have a used copy of Giffy Gold that I'll sell for $30.00 obo. This 
CD is BBS approved, for the lack of a better word, as all scans are 
original Giffy Enterprises scans of amateur models.  The best way I 
can describe the scan is there in the "girl next door" type format. 
 
If your interest reply here or netmail. 
 
Later...Bob 
 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50  "I can't be wrong; my modem is error-correcting." 
* LAKOTA v1.1

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From: BOBBY POSEY                            Number: 6248
  To: BOB ROSOL                                Date: 10/15/93  7:46a
Subj: Corel ArtShow 3 CD & Book               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: LARRY FOSTER                           Number: 6249
  To: ADRIAN VERGOT                            Date: 10/15/93  1:05p
Subj: Re: Custom CD-ROM $75 !                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey looking to send you some business. Give me a call at 817-756-5868..

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6250
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 10/17/93  6:39p
Subj: NO10 VS PIER 3                          Refer: 9601
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> >Not so sure about Night Owl 11, with the pending six-figure
-> >damage settlement hanging over Richard Graham's head.
->
-> ???
->
->  I had NOT heard about this....

Do tell...

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6251
  To: PAUL CHATFIELD                           Date: 10/17/93  8:49p
Subj: Queer                                   Refer: 9627
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> international echo...not to mention the fact that I and others actual
-> pay for the mails we get...I pay $1.50 a minute!! and I dont expect t
-> off topic drivel to boot! Kindly take you abuse and feelings elsewher
-> like netmail direct or voice!....to the moderator...sorry for the rep
-> this king of thing p's me something shocking...I poll from Singapore
-> for this...and I hope this doesnt happen again!

Hey Paul...

And that's the basic problem with FidoNet:  The people who control the
echos (moderators) don't pay for it's distribution.  Until there's a way
for a moderator to *pay* for an echo's distribution, this problem ain't
going away.  The ?C's are right on the "I pay for it" thingy.

I'm currently looking into methods/schemes that will allow me to pay for
CDROM_SALE's distribution.  Until I can do that, this echo's "direction"
will have to be within the confines of what's fair to those who pay for
everything... There's no way around that.

HOW one pays for an echo's distribution is the big unknown.  It would be
impossible to pay everyone direct - too many people.  There's no
money "pool" I can contribute to either.  Tell me *how* I can pay for
this echo's distribution and I'll spit out answers to all of the
questions.

There's new technology that *might* provide a clue - services like
Planet Connect which allows you to transmit the backbone and filebone
(and other things) via satellites (a mailer, $400.00 satellite dish,
$200.00 receiver, and a $40.00/month subscription fee - that to *get*
stuff from the satellites. I want to *send* stuff to the satellites
that other people can *get*)... Maybe something related to satellite
transmissions will allow me to pay for this echo's distribtion, but
right now: dunno.

BTW, effective immediately, I'll begin piping this echo into areas
where it's not currently available - places like Australia and some
areas of the far east... I'll make this announcement in the CDROM echo,
as it wouldn't do any good to announce it here |).

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6252
  To: WYATT WOLFE                              Date: 10/17/93  8:51p
Subj: gettin' in step                         Refer: 9651
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->        Not a vender first off... but is there not in fact a C_forsale
-> (commercial for sale) echo, sponsered by FIDO.. If not, just wonderin
-> any time I put any of my personal info in it, the moderator says its
-> home sales.. so in fact, this makes your statement of FIDO rules sayi
-> "Commercial Advertising is not allowed in FIDO inacurate... I am not
-> pulling this outta the blue.. I pay for my echos like most.. and have
-> C_FORSALE echo from the get go..  would it not be in FIDO's best intr
-> direct the misled to the right echo, then to ban them from them all?

Commercial advertising is *tolerated* in FidoNet, not allowed. If you
have a mailer installed freq POLICY (usually POLICY.ARC) from one of
your echo coordinators...

FidoNet toleration ends when the "one on one" messages begin.  The folks
who pay for the distribution of fido mail shouldn't be expected to
subsidize a dealer's business, so when they voice their exceptions to an
echo's content, it's usually for a good reason: They pay for it....

And there's talk (perpetual talk) about yanking CFORSALE (and others)
from the backbone.  Again, the key word is toleration.  When an echo
exits the toleration zone, it runs the risk of being yanked off the
backbone - yanking that severely complicates its distribution...

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6253
  To: BOB JOHNSTONE                            Date: 10/17/93  9:03p
Subj: GETTIN' IN STEP                         Refer: 9657
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> comes from the employees.  If they took all the echos out of FidoNet
-> support commercial enterprises, they would probably pull a hundred or
-> echos.  I doubt it will happen.

That's true, but it's possible.  2 Reasons:

1.  POLICY4 prohibits commercial advertising.
2.  The folks who route fido mail take it *very* seriously...
    Everybody takes something seriously and FidoNet is their thang.
    That's fair enough & I respect it.

#1 is used as justification to meet some end resulting from the effects
of #2.

->  Most of the HUBS in FidoNet have paid for distribution of echos they
-> use, which others find of great value.  If they all stopped distribut
-> they dont use, it would tie up the backbone so badly a majority of ec
-> be lost.

That's the moderator's argument and it's equally valid.... Again, (from
the previous messages) it boils down to a moderator's inability to pay
for his/her echo's distribution.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6254
  To: RUSTY ATKINS                             Date: 10/17/93  8:54p
Subj: Off-Topic, On-Target                    Refer: 9666
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> I want to apologize to the moderator for being off-topic, but I feel
-> about time that someone spoke-up about this.

Apologize?  Hell, I agreed with everything you said...

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6255
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 10/17/93  8:45p
Subj: A PUBLIC APPEAL                         Refer: 9699
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->  On the other hand, it's not specifically addressed by Policy at all.

That's not true.  POLICY4 is pretty definitive about the amatuer nature
of FidoNet and how this relates to commercial ventures.  You're 100%
right about the overzealousness of some *C's... The POLICY4 verbage is
their ammo.

Tell me how I can pay for the distribution of this echo.

tim
moderator
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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 6256
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/16/93  7:11a
Subj: Photo CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can Kodak photo CD pictures be  converted to the .GIF format or viewed with any
other software?
anyone...?

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6257
  To: MARCIAL MORENO                           Date: 10/15/93  8:56p
Subj: Nightowl 10 is here                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MM>                  Local Girls 3 in 1 CD ......... $26.00ea
MM>                  Island Girls 3 in 1 CD ........ $26.00ea

Don't expect to make a bunch of friends in here by selling these.  They
were probably the most complained-about titles I had in the short time
I carried them.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6258
  To: JARED MARTIN                             Date: 10/15/93  8:56p
Subj: COOL CD-ROM GAMES                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>I've been looking at a game called BattleChess
>>Enhanced...anyone ever heard or seen it?  Thanks...

We have it in stock at $32.  Standard edition is $25.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6259
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 10/15/93  8:56p
Subj: NO10 VS PIER 3                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF>>Not so sure about Night Owl 11, with the pending six-figure
BF>>damage settlement hanging over Richard Graham's head.

BF> I had NOT heard about this....

Yep.  And after that trial is over, there are others waiting in the wings,
including the originator of the CARRS CD's, who apparently feels he was
somewhat "abused" in his business dealings with Richard.  But this is
just what I've heard through the grapevine, so take it for what it's
worth.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6260
  To: JIM COYLE                                Date: 10/15/93  8:56p
Subj: NO10 vs Pier 3                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JC>Will you give me the same deal? I heard Night Owl v10 was $25 from Free
JC>Spirit.  1-800-638-5757 is their phone if you wanna call and verify. I'd
give
JC>you $20 in a second for Pier 3.

Well, I did call at the request of a customer, and the lady who answered
quoted me $29.  Also, here is the latest copy of their ad that I've seen:

Date: 10-11-93 (05:22)             Number: 20
From: KEVIN PLUMMER                Refer#: NONE
  To: ALL                           Recvd: NO
Subj: Night Owl $29                  Conf: (48) CDROMSA
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  N i g h t   O w l   10.0
 ******************************************************************
 *********                                                *********
 ***********                                            ***********
 *********               $ 29.00 Each                     *********
 ***********                                            ***********
 *********                                                *********
 ***********           ------------------               ***********
 *********               1-800-638-5757                   *********

Sooooooooo............., if you want to do it based on this price, give me
a call!

JC>And could you tell me about the Night Owl? The damage settlement, I mean. I
JC>haven't heard anything about that.

Well, it's all second-hand information, but from what has been relayed to
me by sources who attended the trial, Richard is staring at a six-figure
damage settlement that falls just short of half a million.  It was filed by
the programmer who wrote his original interface system (NIGHT.EXE), and
apparently the claim is that he's never received the royalties he was
due from the sale of the CD's.  The people I've spoken to do play a part
in the trial, and from what the attorney's have told them, it's pretty
much open and shut.  Again, this is only hearsay, but I have every
reason to trust the parties involved DO know what they're talking about.
Another potential snag here for Night Owl's is that they apparently never
bothered to register the Night Owl's trademark.  If they had, they might
have learned that the Federal Trademark for this name is owned by a
company called Night Owl Tobacco.  The next few months should be very
interesting as to the future of Night Owl's CD's, so stay tuned!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6261
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/15/93  8:56p
Subj: PIER 3 NOW SHIPPING                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |        Title:  PIER 3         |  |   Price:  $39   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

                             >>> IT'S HERE! <<<

     The wait is over!  Night Owl's closest rival in the shareware CD
     industry has just released their latest disc:  The Pier Shareware 3.
     Since the release of Pier 1 and 2, there has been a growing
     consensus in the CD-ROM industry that Pier CD's simply have no
     equal when it comes to recent files, accurate BBS listings, and
     great user interfaces.  To put it simply folks, if you are looking
     for the absolute BEST shareware CD for your personal or BBS use,
     Pier 3 is the CD you need.  You will not find a better organized,
     more current shareware CD on the world market, at ANY PRICE!

     * 628mb total
     * Separate <ASP> directory.
     * 100% files dated 1993 S.D.C. (Smart Date Checking utilized)
     * Completely re-written Graphic User Interface for EZ file management,
       which is 300% faster than previous versions!
     * All files have been scanned for viruses with the latest McAfee SCAN.
     * GAP, PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat!, Remote Access FILES.BBS Support.
     * Less then 1% duplication compared to The Pier Shareware 1 & 2.
     * Most current files on the market.  Over 70% dated AFTER 6/93!

                        - DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE -

     File stats for Pier 3:

     92  File   %    Apx 'K'    %        93  File   %    Apx 'K'    %
     ==  ==== =====  ======== =====      ==  ==== =====  ======== =====

      1     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       1     5  0.1%     1,708  0.3%
      2     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       2     6  0.1%     1,066  0.2%
      3     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       3    47  1.0%     5,508  0.9%
      4     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       4   501 11.0%    70,354 11.2%
      5     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       5   693 15.2%    94,210 15.0%
      6     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       6 1,244 27.4%   164,183 26.1%
      7     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       7 1,054 23.2%   156,138 24.8%
      8     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       8   572 12.6%    79,892 12.7%
      9     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       9   421  9.3%    55,188  8.8%
     10     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      10     0  0.0%         0  0.0%
     11     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      11     0  0.0%         0  0.0%
     12     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      12     0  0.0%         0  0.0%
         ---- -----  -------- -----          ---- -----  -------- -----
            0  0.0%         0  0.0%         4,543 99.9%   628,247 99.8%
         ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== =====

That's right - 72% dated newer than 6/93, and 98.4% dated newer than 4/93!

   2-CD SET:  Pier 2 and 3...................(less than 1% dupes!)....$59
   3-CD SET:  Pier 1, 2, and 3...............(less than 1% dupes!)....$75

                 >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<
                 >>>     DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE!     <<<

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6262
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/15/93  8:56p
Subj: CD-ROM PACKAGE SPECIALS                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #5: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS   |
         |________________________________________________________|


   1. Night Owl 7.0        2. Night Owl 8.0       3. Southern Beauties
      Night Owl 8.0           Night Owl 9.0          Digital Dreams
      Night Owl 9.0           Night Owl 10           Amateur Models
      -------------           ------------           --------------
      $59                     $69                    $85


   4. Night Owl 9.0        5. Night Owl 10        6. Pier 2
      Night Owl 10.0          Pier 3                 Pier 3
      --------------          ------                 ------
      $49                     $59                    $59


   7. Software Vault 1     8. Empire Clipart      9. Night Owl 10
      Software Vault 2        Clipart Heaven         Pier 3
      Software Vault Gold     Ency. of Clipart       Software Vault Gold
      -------------------     ----------------       -------------------
      $57                     $59                    $79


  10. CD Winbox           11. Giga Games         12. Mac Shareware
      Windows 93              Game Arena             Garbo DOS/Mac
      ----------              ----------             -------------
      $44                     $35                    $35


  13. Fantazia Fonts      14. OS/2Box           15. Shareware Online 1
      Fontmaster 2            CD Powerbox           Shareware Online 2
      Too Many Typefonts      CD Winbox             So Much Shareware 3
      ------------------      ---------             -------------------
      $49                     $49                   $69

PLUS, AN ADDED BONUS . . . . .

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6263
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 10/16/93  7:04a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG PAGE 4                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RONALD- My Fax number is 1-602-292-0497

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From: CARL JOHNSON                           Number: 6264
  To: CHET HART                                Date: 10/10/93  9:40a
Subj: CD-ROM for trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CH>    I'm willing to trade the adult CD-ROM "Legends of Porn
 CH> 2" for a text or multimedia encyclopedia of 1991 vintage or
 CH> later. I'm not interested in any games.

Chet,

     I have a new, unopened copy of The Software Toolworks Multimedia
Encyclopedia that I would trade you. I believe it is the 1992 edition.
I will try to reach you by voice this evening, or you can call my board at 
412-771-9218. FIDO 1:129/133

Thanks.....

Carl


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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 6265
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 10/16/93  5:17p
Subj: BUSTY BABES 1                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PR>Hello Greg!

PR>12 Oct 93, Greg Sterling writes to All:

 GS> INTERESTED IN BUYING OR TRADING FOR BUSTY BABES 1 CD.  LET
PR>ME KNOW IF
 GS> YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A DEAL.  (I HAVE A LOT OF BASEBALL AND
PR>HOCKEY CARDS IF
 GS> INTERESTED.)

PR>Have it but need a 14.4 modem or simms

PR>Pat


PAT,
DO YOU WANT A 14.4 MODEM IN TRADE FOR THE CD?  I WASN'T CLEAR ON THAT.
ALSO, PARDON MY IGNORANCE, BUT WHAT'S A SIMMS?
GREG

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 6266
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/16/93  8:18a
Subj: CD-ROM Disks for Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROMS for Sale

Magazine Rack                                     $15
Romware Vol 2 No 2 Windows                        $10
Top 101 Multimedia Shareware                      $12
Sherlock Holmes on Disk                           $19
CD-ROM Premier                                    $14
Time Almanac 1990                                 $19
Toolworks US Atlas and Automap                    $24
Toolworks World Atlas                             $24
IBM Ultimedia Tool Series Multimedia Sampler CD   $19
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia               $69
Made in the USA - Fourth edition                  $19

Open to reasonable offers on multiple purchases

Plus shipping - $2.90 for one to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ Can you imagine conning eight cats into pulling a sled?


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From: BRIAN KURKOWSKI                        Number: 6267
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/15/93  6:45p
Subj: CATALOG                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To all vendors:
Please send your latest catalog to :

Flynn Wilson
Charter Industries Inc.
1041 Johnnie Dodds Blvd.
Mt. Pleasant, SC 29464

I am interested in a bunch of software.

Posted by request of my boss, several states away. This conference does not
echo in his area. Thanks.


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From: PIERRE PROULX                          Number: 6268
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 10/15/93  7:54p
Subj: Night Owl v.10                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Vince!

How much are you selling the N.O. v.10?

Waiting for a reply.

Thanks


Pierre Proulx

 * WCE 1.10/2051 * J'ai un probleme de clavier Canadien Francais .


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6269
  To: BILL PEARSON                             Date: 10/16/93  9:07a
Subj: Night Owl's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BP> Doug, can you give me a package price for Nightowl 8, 9 & 10? 
 BP>  
 
Sure....give me a call voice at 615-339-0235 and I will give ya one.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6270
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 10/16/93  9:10a
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RD>           That wasn't a nasty message and the reason it was sent
 RD> was because my order had not arrived.  Let's get some FACTS
 RD> straight here Doug:-

Yes...that is an excellent idea.  Let's get the FACTS straight here Ron, not
your made up version of them.
 

 RD> 1)  My order was placed on 17th August and read, presumably by you,
 RD> on the 19th of august.

Yes...that is correct.
 

 RD> 2)  On the 6th of september you published a new price list.

As I usually do on about a weekly basis.  Prices are in effect at the time they
are ordered.
 

 RD> 3)  My order was not dealt with until 25th of September.

That is correct.  I have explained this about 3 times now.  I obviosly have to
again.  It isn't sinking in.  I read your message and then just plain forgot to
get to it again.  I get many messages daily on the BBS and it is easy to miss
one.  I usually have to read messages in passing and I usually get back to them
later on if they need replies or service.  I just happened to miss getting back
to yours.  It was not a normal blunder that often occurs nor was it I didn't
care about your order.  I just got busy and made a normal human error.  When
you reminded me of it BTW, by swearing at me on my BBS, I promptly apologized
for it, very nicely I might add, and promptly sent your order to you and you
had it 3 days later.
 

 RD>           As an aside to this, I think you will find that YOU are
 RD> REQUIRED, under laws dealing with mail order, to inform the
 RD> customer if the order cannot be filled within 30 days, when the new
 RD> shipping date will be and offer cancellation of order. This did NOT
 
That is correct if you are in the US.  I would have been happy to allow you to
cancel your order.  You did not request to do so, so your point is invalid.  I
also stated that I missed getting back to you, so your point of letting you
know what is going on within 30 days is applicable, but I think all can see
what the story is here.  If you had called me back 2 weeks after you had placed
your order and reminded me, it would have also gone out within 3 days.  I
apologized for making a mistake about 10 times now, and have also explained to
you about 10 times now that it is rare that something like this happens, but
once in a great while happens to all vendors, and just not me.  
 

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6271
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 10/16/93  9:23a
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Continuing my response:

 RD> 4)  As the order was late, you shipped it out, PARTIALLY filled,
 RD> EXPRESS MAIL.
 
Yes....you ordered 5 Adult discs.  I had 4 of the 5.  You were already steamed
because your order was late.  I had no intention of waiting another week till
that one particular title came back into stock and also letting you continue to
bad mouth and flame me because your order hadn't showed up.  
 
As to the EXPRESS MAIL, that is the way most customers overseas like to get
their orders.  On multiple disc orders, there is little difference betweem
Express Mail and Air Parcel Post, and Express Mail is the usual desired choice.
 You DID NOT SPECIGY what method of shipping you wanted.
If you want to debate this, I will be glad to post your message for all to see
who is right.
 

 RD>           Shipping out the customers order, because of YOUR error,
 RD> at THE CUSTOMER's ADDITIONAL expense is an intolorable business
 RD> practice.  Do you see NOW why I am more than slightly annoyed?  Do
 RD> you believe NOW that it's justified?  If not, then feel free to
 RD> delay other people's order and then stick them with a $25,-
 RD> shipping fee and see how long you stay in business.

Here is where you continue to not state the FACTS, which doesn't surprise me. 
Like I stated above, Express Mail is usually chosen by most, and you can't
complain about it since you didn't bother to tell me what method you wanted. 
All shipping charges are paid by the customer.  That is standard business
practice.  If I had shipped it by ground, which is the cheapest, you would have
really bitched, because it takes 30 days or longer to get there.  And, NO, you
have no right to contiue to be annoyed,as I have filled my end of the bargain. 
A $25 shipping charge is normal for overseas orders to get them insured if you
happen to order 4-5 discs and to get them in a reasonable amount of time.  So,
your argument regarding the Express Mail is hot air.
 

 RD> P.S.  I notice that the 5th CD, which was ordered, was advertised
 RD> in your price list published on 6th of September AND in the last
 RD> price list published, but still hasn't been shipped.

Yes, I normally have it in stock.  As I explained earlier, it wasn't at the
time of shipment.  You assume that I have it on backorder and intend on
shipping it.  I left you a note with your order that you got that I was NOT
backordering it for you since it would cost you a fortune in shipping costs for
one CD.  I would recommend you buy it elsewhere the next time you order
something.  I have treated you more than fairly and you continue to harrass me.
 Please go harrass someone else, since you obviously enjoy it.  I try to put
all my customers first and do whatever I can when they also treat me fairly in
return and often when they don't.
You have continued to be obstinate and obnoxious, and I don't need that kind of
business. 
 

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6272
  To: NATHANIEL BRITTS                         Date: 10/16/93  9:41a
Subj: wanted cd's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ok...Manpower for $25 it is.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6273
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 10/16/93 12:23p
Subj: Wanted: Bible Cde                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RL> Isn't the Bible Library an old 1988 disk or have 
 RL> they come out with a new
 RL> version? What year is the copyright? Does it come 
 RL> in a windows version?
 RL> I'm interested...thanks.

 RL> Ron

It is the original Ellis Bible Library.  I imagine it may have been out since
that long.  I have been selling CDs now for about 2-1/2 years and it has been
out all this time.  There is a new version out that has 16 versions of the
Bible versus the 9 on this one...however, it is also around $300 versus the 20
some dollars for the original one.  The 20 some dollar one does not come with a
windows version.  I have only read about the more expensive one.  None of my
several distributors I buy from carries the new one, so I haven't actually seen
it.  

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6274
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 10/16/93 12:52p
Subj: ron dwight                              Refer: NONE
Read: 10/18/93 10:44a                       Private: No 

I want to take a moment to apologize to Tim and the rest of the members of this
echo for having to read all this garbage from and to Mr. Ron Dwight.  
 
Tim, I settled with this guy and he just won't leave it to rest.  Would you
please send the gentlemen an official warning to please take this discussion to
netmail or cease and desist as noone wants to read all this garbage. The
gentleman is now becoming very annoyiung and obnoxious.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6275
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 10/16/93  1:04p
Subj: CD Player                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PR> person know the money was in the mail. Could you 
 PR> please tell how and where I make replys, any help 
 PR> would be great. I am not a dealer just a housewife 
 
Replies should be sent by netmail.  That way only the sender has to pay for
them.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6276
  To: BILL DEERTZ                              Date: 10/16/93  1:07p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BD> Are both of these Pioneer multiple disc players 
 BD> SCSI format?  Are these
 BD> internal or external?

The two units you mention are SCSI units.  They are external units that weigh
about 19 pounds each.  We sell the 600A for a cash price of $689 delivered in
the USA.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6277
  To: JOHN RICKER                              Date: 10/16/93  1:10p
Subj: Getting into the Business               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JR> I was wondering if anyone could tell me how I would go about getting
 JR> into the CD-ROM business (sell the CD's).. I would appreciate any
 JR> information that you could provide..


You could start with FAYE at Tradeshows.  She carries most of the popular
titles.  You can leave her a message at 317-651-1223.  Tell her Doug Carpenter
sent ya.  You will need to probably get a business license and a state tax
stamp to deal with some vendors.  Also, you would benefit by getting a merchant
account, although you'll have to shop around, as not all banks like mail order
businesses.....

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6278
  To: JOE REYNOLDS                             Date: 10/16/93  1:12p
Subj: Adult CDs wanted for BBS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JR> I am interested in purchasing some adult cds to run with my BBS. Does
 JR> anyone know of any titles and where I can get them.

Give us a call at 615-339-0235.  We have several reasonably priced CDs for BBS
use.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6279
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 10/16/93  1:14p
Subj: A PUBLIC APPEAL                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RL> This net is riddles with unreasonable rules and quite a few nazi-like
 RL> dicatators called moderators (not here though) who are completely
 
There you are wrong.  If it wasn't for moderation, people would go crazy. There
is enough of it going on even with a moderator.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6280
  To: ERIC SANTELICES                          Date: 10/16/93  1:16p
Subj: So Much Shareware I & II                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 ES> I have so much Shareware vol I and II is there a vol III?
 ES> If so where can I get it?

There sure is.  It is in stock at PCJ for $26.95 plus shipping.  Give us a call
at 800-547-7817 to order or 615-339-0235 for further discussion.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6281
  To: ERIC SANTELICES                          Date: 10/16/93  1:17p
Subj: Latest Shareware CD-ROM                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 ES> What is the latest SHAREWARE CD-ROM on the market.  
 ES> I want one that was produced with in the last 6 
 ES> mon.  I would also like it to support FILES.BBS 
 ES> description structures.
 ES>   
 ES> Any suggestions?
 ES>   
 ES> EricS.

We have Nightowl 10 that just came out for $28.95 and in stock.  It has a
Files.BBS in each directory and is all '93 with a majority of files in the last
6 months.  800-547-7817 to order.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6282
  To: STEVE EVERLEY                            Date: 10/16/93  1:19p
Subj: Telephone Directory                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SE> Looking for the most up to date and complete CD 
 SE> containing the telephone numbers for EVERYONE in 
 SE> the U.S. I understand that someone has a set of 
 SE> about 6-8 cd's that is real good. I have seen one 
 SE> that is 2-CD's. I guess it is OK but definately 
 SE> not very complete.
 SE>   
 SE> Can any one help me.. 
 SE>   
We have the latest Mid-Year Prophone for $95.  It contains 6 residential and 1
business disc for names and numbers all over the US.  Give us a call at
800-547-7817 to order.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6283
  To: TOM HUNT                                 Date: 10/16/93  1:21p
Subj: Re: Hot Pix                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TH> I only paid $20 apiece for Hot Pix 2,3,4 what makes 
 TH> Hot Pix 1 so valuable
 TH> I was looking to pay around 20-30 for it
 TH> thanks


I doubt you'll find Nix-Pix aka Hot Pix 1 for $20-30.  It contains beastiliaty
and lots of other gross things, and is also against federal law to run on a BBS
or ship across state lines.  Most dealers won't risk getting their business
shut down or their BBS closed because of it.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6284
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/16/93  1:28p
Subj: NICE TRYe                               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 MS> I wonder if you realize that calls to an 800-line can be traced.  Be
 MS> chatting with you soon.

I don't think most people know that.  I get a printed list every month who
called mine.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6285
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 10/16/93  1:32p
Subj: NEW CDROM arrivals at PCJ               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MH> Doug,
 MH> Do you have the complete address for Sexy Cd Software?

 MH> I need it if you do, thanks.

I read a message from Lee that company name is actually bogus.  I would say she
is right.  I bought some Hot Pix 2 CDs from them at $50 each about a year and a
half ago.  The 800# I called was an ordering service.  I don't remember the
guy's name I talked to anymore, but he is out of California I believe it is
that actually owns the business I believe.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6286
  To: BILL PEARSON                             Date: 10/16/93  2:11p
Subj: Night Owl $29                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KP>                  N i g h t   O w l   10.0 
 BP> Please give me a combo price on NO 8,9 & 10. 
 BP> --- FreeMail 1.09
 
$67 for the three and their yours......in stock.

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From: SERGIO MASCARENHAS                     Number: 6287
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/15/93  1:44p
Subj: My Order                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hi, Mike!

SM>Did you receive my orders?  I didn't receive any feedback.

MS>I did indeed, Sergio!  Thanks very much, but I didn't find you in my
  >customer database!  Looked high and low for all my customers in Brazil
  >and couldn't come up with anything.  Please either fax or mail me your
  >shipping address and card number so I can process the order for you.

Ok! No problem! I'll send a fax to you.

What's your netmail address? I sent a order to you in 1:3407/101
(crashmail) about 3 weeks ago.

Thanks,
    Sergio

Note to Moderator:  Sorry, but I didn't have another way to
                    contact Mike. This is the last "one on one"
                    business message that I send.
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From: ED YEE                                 Number: 6288
  To: TERRY YAN                                Date: 10/16/93  9:05p
Subj: oh yeah                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TY> hey ed how's it going??? It's me ( you know ) hmm 
 TY> boy is that socail every hard eh? OH well the jays 
 TY> won!! kewl!!!
 TY> c-ya at school
 
Hey, Terry, I know, we're off topic here.  Lets move to private e-mail at tech
talk or the Calgary echo.  I don't want to upset anymore people.

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From: ED YEE                                 Number: 6289
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/16/93  9:25p
Subj: sorry                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 6290
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/16/93 10:08p
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hi Mike,

 > Which title was it?  Maybe we have it in stock.

          Now here seems to speak a man going AFTER business.  I like it and so
should others.  It was "Adult reference library".

          Please do what you can to get a mailer up Mike, it will make life a
LOT easier for you, at least from those technically "aware" <grin>.

          Thanks for asking about the disc, this IS the way business should be
done.


                                                   Cheers,

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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 6291
  To: TOM HUNT                                 Date: 10/16/93 10:10p
Subj: Hot Pix                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Tom,

 > I only paid $20 apiece for Hot Pix 2,3,4 what makes Hot Pix 1 so
 > valuable I was looking to pay around 20-30 for it thanks

          It was (is) banned in several states as well as several European
countries.  It contains bestiality amongst other things and is better left
alone unless you have a strong stomach.


                                                   Cheers,

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From: DAVID FORD                             Number: 6292
  To: KELLY KIMBALL                            Date: 10/16/93 12:25a
Subj: Re: AutoCAD CD ROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have seen a few things in cadence magazine.  Most are dxf's.  I have also
seen some in Video Toaster Magazine.  Problem is that they're around 400 bucks.
 ohch!!  Anyhow, I do 3d rendering but It's too expensive to get things to work
with.

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 6293
  To: ROBERT MOORE                             Date: 10/16/93 10:33p
Subj: CD Player                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Robert!

Friday October 15 1993, Robert Moore writes to Pat Rickerson:

 RM> * In a message originally to Tim Helton, Pat Rickerson said:

 PR>> great. I am not a dealer just a housewife that tries to find
 PR>> deals for anyone and everyone here in the bottom of Texas.

 RM> Hello, recently I purchased four Hitachi CD ROM Drives and I want to buy
 RM> four more, but the guy I bought them from doesn't have any more. These are
 RM> old 3500/3600 series drives.  I have seen prices on these drives anywhere
 RM> from $60 to $99 each.  Can you help me get more of these drives?  Thanks
 RM> in advance for your help. -+- FMail 0.96â + Origin: BestDealBBS, Va.
 RM> Beach, Va. USA 804/340-4457,-3498,-1250 (1:275/47)

Did you get those from a guy in Hawaii? If not there is a guy there selling
four. I have seen a lot of them lately on the echo, all I do is just keep up
with who is selling what. If I hear any thing will let you know.


Pat

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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 6294
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/16/93  9:07p
Subj: Hot Pix                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > TH>> I only paid $20 apiece for Hot Pix 2,3,4 what makes Hot Pix 1 so
 > TH>> valuable

 > Beastiality, skat(defecation), puke shots, water sports
 > etc--It represents a total disregard for federal law--No
 > just samplings of the hardcore disciplines, but directories
 > of these type of things.

I have this.  How valuable is it ???!?!?
Enquiring minds want to know !

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From: KAWAI WONG                             Number: 6295
  To: ROB O'DELL                               Date: 10/17/93  1:48a
Subj: Nec Portable Cd-Rom                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÿ@ORIGIN :MicroSolutions BBS-(615) 868-3163 USR v32b/v42b (1:116/109) N
-> JL> Rob, How about a phone number so we can talk turkey. I might JL> be
-> interested
->
-> 313-289-2819...  $99.00 firm.  30 day warranty.
->
-> ---
-> * Origin: Fast Eddie's BBS - Node 1 Monroe, MI [313-243-0944] (1:2380/101)

   How many do you have left??  and will it work with Trantor 130B SCSI
controller??  Thanx.
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From: KAWAI WONG                             Number: 6296
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 10/17/93  1:54a
Subj: Re: Swimwear & MOD CDs ne               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÿ@ORIGIN :MicroSolutions BBS-(615) 868-3163 USR v32b/v42b (1:116/109) N
-> >>    To all vendors:
->
-> >>            I am looking for a swimwear GIF CD and a MOD/MIDI/WAV >>
->      CD for my BBS, but am not sure which one I should get >>     and how
-> much are they.  Any help is appreciated.  Thanx.
->
-> We have a cd called " Soundware " that will give you more sound files than
-> you'll know what to do with, over 10,000 in all !!


   That sounds good, but do you have any suggestions on the swimwear GIFs CD??
Also, can you give me a special deal on Night Owl 10+"Soundware"+a swimwear
CD??  Thanx.
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From: CRAIG SHEPPARD                         Number: 6297
  To: SAM BECKWITH                             Date: 10/14/93  8:44p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SB>BBS Ready
SB>~~~~~~~~~
SB>* 9,000 SOUNDS (8/93, Shareware): MIDI, MOD, ROL, VOC, WAV, $24.00
SB>  CMF, CMS, CAKEWALK & more

Sam,

        I may be interested in this CD, but could you give me a
        description of what the file descriptions are like on the CD?
        Are they short like..."WAV file" or are they decent, like "A
        good WAV file of...."

Thanks,

Craig in South Jersey
Internet:  CraigS4557@aol.com


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From: DAVID ROBERTS                          Number: 6298
  To: BOBBY WIENHOLT                           Date: 10/16/93  9:40a
Subj: Re: Cd Rom list 3 of 3                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BW> Guiness Disc of Records 1993                           $40

Would you be interested in trading an original Busty Babes for the above
disk and a Compton's Multimedia Encyclopedia?  If so, give me a call at
808-624-1293. 


... Just what do they teach training bras anyway?
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From: MICHAEL TURNER                         Number: 6299
  To: JOE REYNOLDS                             Date: 10/15/93  2:35p
Subj: Re: Adult CDs wanted for BBS            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Electric Dreams is Pretty Good! :) BBS ready with about 1600 GIFS! :)

----RP Random TagLines Beta1.0
Yeah, I too am in Love with an ANIME Girl!

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From: RAMON ALVARADO                         Number: 6300
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/07/93  2:59p
Subj: CD ROM NEC 55J                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

      I'm looking for a death not working  CDROOM:
   --- Brand:     NEC
   --- Model:     55J
       I need this cd room for parts if anyone has one for sale
       please leave me a message.
       Yo can call me at this number(work)  818-882-7143.
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From: RAMON ALVARADO                         Number: 6301
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/15/93  9:37p
Subj: NEC CD DRIVE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       I'm looking for a not working  CD DRIVE.    Model:
                                   NEC 55j   (Internal).
       I need it for parts.
       If any one has one for sale or wanna make a trade
       replay here.
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From: TIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 6302
  To: TOM HUNT                                 Date: 10/16/93  3:58p
Subj: Re: Hot Pix                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TH> I only paid $20 apiece for Hot Pix 2,3,4 what makes Hot Pix 
 TH> 1 so valuable I was looking to pay around 20-30 for it
 TH> thanks


It has some unusual material on it. Not exactly my taste, but I suppose thats
the reason it's so high. It's in great demand. Good luck. You won't find it
under 80.00 new.

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From: MARK ELSON                             Number: 6303
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/16/93 11:36p
Subj: CDs                                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike,

Have a couple of questions for you.....

when will the OS/2 Box CD be out??
and is the Mac Shareware disk BBS ready???
is the new Busty Babes out yet??

what kind of deal can I get if I buy all 3 of the above...

Mark


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 6304
  To: BRAD PAYNTER                             Date: 10/12/93  4:27p
Subj: BBabes For Sale or trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <05 Oct 93  22:45:54>, Brad Paynter (1:141/730) writes:
 >I've got a copy of Busty Babes, not to sure whether it's volume one or 
 >not, but since there is no volume number on it, I have to assume it is. 
 >I'd like to trade it for a good map disk or a shareware disk or two. Of 
 >course I'll take dead presidents if that's all you've got.
 >Leave a note here and I'll get back to you.
How about $25 shipped?


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From: GEOFF REED                             Number: 6305
  To: JOHN THOMPSON                            Date: 10/14/93  1:37a
Subj: Budget Cd's 4 Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

<<***** On 10-11-93, John Thompson wrote to Joe Rinehart: *****>>
JT>How old is the SIMTEL-20 CD?  Do you plan on carrying the updates as they
JT>become available?  As I recall, a new one should be due out in
JT>November...
  
  There probably won't be any more updates after November, The military is
planning on pulling the plug on Simtel20.army.mil , their mainframe running
TOPS-20 at Almagordo sometime in Dec. or January. they feel it's no longer
"cost effective" to maintain it.
 
                         
~~~
* VbReader V1.4 *CANADOS: Format C:? Yer sure, eh? [S]ure [N]o way, hoser!

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From: DANIEL PARDUE                          Number: 6306
  To: ALL SELLERS                              Date: 10/17/93  1:02p
Subj: I want to get some CDs                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I just got a CD-ROM drive and want to buy some software. Please send catalogs.

Daniel Pardue
29 Melrose Dr.
Marrero, LA 70072

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From: ROBERT SCHECHTER                       Number: 6307
  To: CD ROM VENDORS                           Date: 10/16/93  7:07p
Subj: Avail. of distant suns cd               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for a good price for DISTANT SUNS by Virtual Reality Saw it at my local
CompUSA for 79.99 but the ORION catalog has it on sale for 50.00 US can anyone
beat this?

Email me robert.schechter@satalink.com

Thanks.

===
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From: CHRIS WISE                             Number: 6308
  To: PAUL CHATFIELD                           Date: 10/16/93  9:38a
Subj: Queer                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->6:600/357
  >like netmail direct or voice!....to the moderator...sorry for the reply but
  >this king of thing p's me something shocking...I poll from Singapore to the 
  >for this...and I hope this doesnt happen again!

   Now just think, another sysop paid money to get your off-topic
message to him.  Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black...

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 6309
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/16/93 11:13a
Subj: Visual Basic Shareware CD-ROM           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the sixth edition of
its Visual Basic CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a
dump of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The October 1993 CD-ROM has
534 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 125,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: PETE PASZKOWSKI                        Number: 6310
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/16/93  8:42p
Subj: Used CD-ROM drive                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone out there have a used CD-ROM drive for sale? I'm looking to expand my
BBS but don't want to buy another new CD-ROM. Let me know if you have one for
sale and it's features.
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 6311
  To: ROBERT MOORE                             Date: 10/17/93 10:11a
Subj: CD ROM Failure                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Robert Moore wrote in a message to Terry Blount:

RM> SETVER Table?  Any other ideas what could cause the third
RM> drive and only the third drive to fail?  The third drive was
RM> replaced three times (three DIFFERENT drives) and had the
RM> same symptoms with all three drives.  Bought a new HITACHI
RM> Interface Card (part# CD-IF18-S) AND had ANOTHER cable made
RM> up.  Drive three still failed.
...
RM> hooked up drive 3 as drive 1, still failed.  Any ideas?

It sounds like a problem with the cable if you can not get any drive to work on
a specific location on a cable.  The only other idea that comes to mind would
be a problem with the jumper
settings. If you had #3 set on #1 then #1 will work but when you access #3 it
won't work.  Sorry I don't have any other
suggestions.

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From: RICHARD WICKER                         Number: 6312
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/15/93 12:59p
Subj: CD-ROMs for Amiga                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Are there any CD-ROM titles out for the AMIGA?  And do any of you have any
for sale?


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From: RICHARD WICKER                         Number: 6313
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/15/93 12:59p
Subj: Adult GIFs on CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in collecting more adult Gifs on CD.  I have Stareware. I
know of the Storm collection. What are the other titles I should be looking
for, and how do you rate them?


*FSED91j*
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6314
  To: PAUL CHATFIELD                           Date: 10/17/93  2:28a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    What number do I call to order from outside CAN/USA...I live
>>    in Singapore!

You can reach us at 216-225-3263 or fax us your request at 216-225-6759
or drop us a note via the fido address below and we'll be happy to assist
you.

>>    Will you ship with covers in a seperate mail....the thought
>>    police are crazy here!

Tell me about it ...grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr !!

Will be waiting to hear from you soon....

Boris Osadciw

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From: MARK SANCHEZ                           Number: 6315
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/17/93 12:00p
Subj: Lowest price CD-ROMS!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Call Lee at Brainchild Computer Distributions for the best price on
Mitsumi CD-ROMs. 350ms access and 150k/sec transfer rate. Controller
included..... $169.00!

                                       Mark
BCD
800-972-9263
Local, 972-9263
Tampa, FL!


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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 6316
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/17/93  9:11a
Subj: Encyclopedia                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a software toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia for sale.  its version 1.5,
and needs windows to run.  New!  I will sell for the low price of

                           $30

reply here if interested, netmail me, or give me a ring.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: MAHMUT KURSUN                          Number: 6317
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 10/15/93  9:18p
Subj: Queen                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dont worry that much about it (or check out the FLAME Echo).

bye

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From: JOHN RICKER                            Number: 6318
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/16/93  1:42p
Subj: Touch External CD-ROM                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi there All,

I was wondering if anyone had any "TOUCH" External CD-ROM drives for
sale... The Model number we're lookinig for is.. "TOUCH" model GCDR-200.

Please let me know if you have any and if so, please let me know how
much they are...

Thank You in advance...


John Ricker


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From: TIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 6319
  To: RICK SHOAF                               Date: 10/17/93 10:14a
Subj: Re: Hot Pix                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RS> I paid about $20 or $25 for my Hot Pix 1. He probably 
 RS> bought it from
 RS> NPWC.



No, I didn't. There are very few who even sell it, and I've never seen it for
less than 89.00. Mind telling me where you got it ?

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From: MICHAEL APPELBAUM                      Number: 6320
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/17/93  4:58p
Subj: CD Multidisk Changer                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone have any prices on Multidisk Changers?
Michael Appelbaum
-GeoNet BBS (617) 784 -5619

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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 6321
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 10/17/93 11:58a
Subj: Re: Photo CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jeff -

16 Oct 93, Jeff Jenkins writes to All:

   JJ> Can Kodak photo CD pictures be converted to the .GIF format
   JJ> or viewed with any other software? anyone...?

I have ONE copy of Tempra Access Photo CD Imaging Software, which includes two
dozen images.  The programs allow you to edit and manipulate any Photo-CD
images, as well as save them onto your hard disk (or floppy) in a variety of
formats (incl GIF, BMP, TIFF, TGA, etc).  The program runs under OS/2, Windows
3.x or DOS.  I'm asking $29 (U.S.) for the disc, plus shipping. If interested,
a reply via Net Mail to 1:141/950.1 will ensure that you get first crack at
this.

                                                       - Arnie

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From: TERRY MCDILL                           Number: 6322
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/17/93  5:22p
Subj: Adult CDs to trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested in trading a couple of adult CD-Roms.

Nightwatch Interactive--Would consider trade for New Wave Hooker II, or LA
Strippers.

Volcano--Would consider trade for Forbidden Subjects or perhaps the Hacker 
Cronicles.

Terry

Netmail 1:280/310.2
Internet: Terry@metrobbs.com
Majornet: Terry@metro

Or...reply here

Thanks!

... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 6323
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 10/17/93 12:57p
Subj: BUSTY BABES 1                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Greg!

Saturday October 16 1993, Greg Sterling writes to Pat Rickerson:


 PR>> Hello Greg!

 PR>> 12 Oct 93, Greg Sterling writes to All:

 GS>> INTERESTED IN BUYING OR TRADING FOR BUSTY BABES 1 CD.  LET
 PR>> ME KNOW IF
 GS>> YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A DEAL.  (I HAVE A LOT OF BASEBALL AND
 PR>> HOCKEY CARDS IF
 GS>> INTERESTED.)

 PR>> Have it but need a 14.4 modem or simms

 GS> DO YOU WANT A 14.4 MODEM IN TRADE FOR THE CD?  I WASN'T CLEAR ON THAT.
 GS> ALSO, PARDON MY IGNORANCE, BUT WHAT'S A SIMMS?

What kind is this 14.4 ? Brand, V32, HST ect.  Also SIMMS are Single In-line
Memory Modual, memory for the mother board.

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 6324
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/17/93  1:01p
Subj: CD Player                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Doug!

Saturday October 16 1993, Doug Carpenter writes to Pat Rickerson:


 PR>> person know the money was in the mail. Could you
 PR>> please tell how and where I make replys, any help
 PR>> would be great. I am not a dealer just a housewife

 DC> Replies should be sent by netmail.  That way only the sender has to pay
 DC> for them.

Thanks for that info will try to make sure I do that.

Pat

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From: TOM SIMPSON                            Number: 6325
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/15/93  4:26p
Subj: Book Of List #3 (trade)                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Book of List #3 for trade.  Am looking for Bible Library.  If 
interested, respond here or contact by phone at (919) 675-9563.


... Medics for Life - Christian living in action
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From: MIKE BRITT                             Number: 6326
  To: MARK CROSBIE                             Date: 10/15/93  7:01p
Subj: Re: Night Owl 10                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MC> I have seen the new Night Owl 10 from $20.00 to 39.00. I am 
 MC> wanting to
 MC> purchase 2 of these CD's. When I get a good price quote I 
 MC> will be
 MC> ordering. If you are a supplier for this Cd, please send me 
 MC> your info
 MC> and price.
 MC> Thanks in advance,


      I would suggest odering from Kevin Plummer. I placed an order for a drive
and the NO 10 Cd and he delivered to me promptly at a VERY good price. His add
is floating in this network somewhere. 


                                                  Mike
                                                  The Legions of Valhalla

Sphinx EM/v5.0 * Belly dancing is a waist of energy.

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 6327
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/17/93 12:07p
Subj: NEW CDROM arrivals at PCJ               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  MH> Doug,
 >  MH> Do you have the complete address for Sexy Cd Software?

 >  MH> I need it if you do, thanks.

 > I read a message from Lee that company name is actually bogus.  I
 > would say she is right.  I bought some Hot Pix 2 CDs from them at $50
 > each about a year and a half ago.  The 800# I called was an ordering
 > service.  I don't remember the guy's name I talked to anymore, but he
 > is out of California I believe it is that actually owns the business I
 > believe.

Okay and thanks,
I wanted to express my grief over their Asian ladies cd ( I not complaining to
you I didn't ask for a review first :-) I used a gif cataloger and actually
viewed every gif and the amount of dupes is outrageous, I printed out six pages
of dupes and would like to mail it but I guess I can't. :-)

                                      Mike Harris

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6328
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 10/19/93  7:26a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS                       Refer: 9775
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> >>    What number do I call to order from outside CAN/USA...I live
-> >>    in Singapore!
->
-> You can reach us at 216-225-3263 or fax us your request at 216-225-67
-> or drop us a note via the fido address below and we'll be happy to as
-> you.
->
-> >>    Will you ship with covers in a seperate mail....the thought
-> >>    police are crazy here!
->
-> Tell me about it ...grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr !!
->
-> Will be waiting to hear from you soon....

Again:  DO NOT post "one on one" messages.  How many times do I have to
tell you this?

tim
moderator
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From: DAVID NGHIEM                           Number: 6329
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/16/93  9:47p
Subj: MAKING A CD-ROM DISK                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone out there have a service where I can give you a tape backup of my
data and you make me a cd-rom?  I have seen some ads that require me to have a
WORM drive and heck, a WORM costs too much.  I think someone here said they
would accept a tape backup for the data.  Please repsond with details.


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 6330
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/17/93 11:01a
Subj: Q&A 4.0 CD-ROM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Q&A 4.0 on CD-ROM $39 including shipping

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209

cc: ALL
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From: DAVE BAKKER                            Number: 6331
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 10/14/93  7:13p
Subj: Re: Disk                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

( 10-12-93 ) Boris Osadciw wrote to Dave Bakker about Re: Disk

BO->>    Boris, just wondering when I can expect my disk, Mayo Clinic,
BO->>    I talked to you on the phone almost two weeks ago (Sept 27). I
BO->>    sent a Money order with my request.  You said if I air mail it
BO->>    to you, you would get it in two days and it would take 2 days
BO->>    to send it.
BO-
BO-We received your check on 10/4/93 and your order was shipped arimail o
BO-10/5/93.
BO-
BO-As I stated to you, it takes 7 - 10 days to get to you, sometimes fast
BO-depending on how busy customes is. I would think you should have your
BO-any day now.

Sorry, my mistake I misunderstood you.  I was just excited about getting
it as it was the first cd I bought mail order.  I recieved it today.
And I am very pleased with it.


BO-I wouldn't be concerned at this point, but if you don't get it by this
BO-weekend, call us at 800-243-0517 and let us know, we do insure all pac
BO-going out of here.

I was wondering if you could help.  The pictures only come up in 16 color
and they don't show very clear.  How do I adjust to be able to see the
pictures normal.  I have a dos program that allows me to look at gif's in
256 format.  They are crystal clear, so i know it is possible, but through
windows it doesn't.  I have a vga moniter with a paridise card.( I think )
at least thats what I have it for other programs.  I have tried other
windows view programs and none of these allow 256 either.

Thanks, if you can help.

Dave


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From: BILL WOLFF                             Number: 6332
  To: MARC BUFE                                Date: 10/14/93 11:07p
Subj: BTX/C64EMU/C64BBSS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Quoting: Brice Fleckenstein (10-07-93  16:56)
     To: Marc Bufe
   Subj: BTX/C64EMU/C64BBSS

 BF> I don't think one exists, try the CBM or CBM-128 echoes. Definitely
 BF> NOT available on a CD-ROM if one does exist, so far as I have seen.

For some reason, 64 emulators have been declared off topic in the 
CBM or CBM-128 echoes. The reason being that they run on the old PC. 
The PC-WRITE echo os the place you what to try. I know of at least 
two of them out there. But I don't know much more about them. Anyway 
PC-WRITE echo is the on topic place to go.

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 6333
  To: DICK HUDDLESTON                          Date: 10/16/93  9:28a
Subj: Re: Inside tip                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <10-14-93 10:17> Dick Huddleston wrote:

DH>>  LN> image from 1024x768 to VGA, if the user  does not have SVGA--
DH>> I believe something like that MUST be my problem with Showoff.

Not a problem anymore according to Solona, they have a video card test in the
config area, and if you have VGA it scales it back, so that you still can enjoy
the disc--Its just a matter of running a different .BAT file!

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: MICHAEL YEOMANS                        Number: 6334
  To: TED KIDD                                 Date: 10/16/93  1:16a
Subj: Cd'S On A Novell Server                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

May I suggest CD-Net for Netware by Meridian.  They can be reached 
through 1-800-555-1212.  Hope this helped!

Michael
(404)389-3833

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From: RUSS HUNTLEY                           Number: 6335
  To: JARED MARTIN                             Date: 10/15/93  5:11p
Subj: Battle Chess Enhanced                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Battle Chess Enchanced Is GREAT!  The Sound is truely the best, the game is
like chess, and the players come to life as they fight it out for the spaces
on the chess board, Truely a "Classic" Game, I highly reccomend The Seventh
Guest if you have not heard about it. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 6336
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/16/93  8:27a
Subj: Re: BB II & SHOWOFF                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Lee Noga to Bob Jackson <=-
 LN> You bet, your disc was sent overnight on Friday (15th)--You will enjoy
 LN> the spelling error on the back of the cover (Arrghhhhh.....oh well,
 LN> makes me human)--This disc was a labor of love :)
 LN> Breech........Saturday delivery.
                   ^^^^^^^^
That's today!! Yea!! (This message rec'd 8:30 a.m. 10/16 - GO FIDONET!)

 LN> My picture ??? Egads, ! I have 20 pounds more to go, and I promise you
                                    ^^^^^^^^^
What, you, too?

 LN> one ! But, I get one of yours !
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Deal!

 LN> Im anxious for you to play with BB II, it should without a doubt set
 LN> the industry standard for licensed collections. For T&A, its going to
 LN> be a tough disc to beat.
 LN> Now, there are not 150ZZZ Busty women on this disc, just alot of bust
                    ^^^^^^^^^^
THANKS! Personally, I think gigantic busts are grotesque. I like 'em a
little top heavy (but not droopy) - but in the end (no pun) the "whole
package" has to hold together.

 LN> photography (naturally)--Very California done, outdoors, beach, pools,
 LN> jacuzzi etc....

Can't wait! (Well, actually will have to a bit. There's an airshow in
Houston today/tomorrow that's not to be missed if one likes that sort of
thing like I do.)

Cheers!

... Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 6337
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 10/16/93  9:00a
Subj: Re: ratings                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Lois Frankel to Bob Jackson <=-
 BJ> G - Non-nudity you can see most anywhere including "thong"
 BJ> bikinis and wet T-shirts.
 LF>
 LF> No PG? I would put thongs and wet t-shirts at "PG." Surely there is a
 LF> relevant difference in intended audience between them and, say,
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is a good point, Lois. I wasn't thinking of just CDs when I made up
my categories. Here (Houston/Galveston) one sees thongs and wet T's
on the beach whether it's "intended" or not and that's kinda what I was
going on. California or elsewhere may be even a bit more "revealing". A
bare female breast or fanny (either sex) will earn a movie an "R". All
the "X" movies I've ever seen contained explicit sexual activity. That
covered everything except the "pink shots" in my thinking...ergo "Hard
R".

I'm not trying to say that my ratings are perfect or even better
than anyone else's, and I'm certainly not trying to set any sort of
"standard". I'm only trying to provide a common frame of reference for
those that read my reviews.

 LF> landscapes. (Personally, I prefer the landscapes, but that's another
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Depending on the situation, so do I.

 LF> ... "You summoned me, Captain?" asked Earl Grey, hotly.
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Are you a fan of "Tom Swifty's"? How about "spoonerisms"? Puns?

... BEWARE - Tagline Thief in this echo
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 6338
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/16/93  3:45p
Subj: Re: BB II & SHOWOFF                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Lee Noga to Bob Jackson <=-
 LN> the spelling error on the back of the cover (Arrghhhhh.....oh well,
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Not so much spelling as grammar, but who's looking? CD arrived Sat.
10/16 while I was at the airshow (Wings Over Houston). Will probably
start perusing the contents tomorrow or Monday p.m. Mucho gratias, Lee!

... Reality-ometer:  [\........]  Hmmph!  Thought so...
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From: LOUIS SOKOL                            Number: 6339
  To: RICHARD SKANDIS                          Date: 10/16/93  3:57p
Subj: NEC 3X/4X CDROM DRVS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RS> Thanks for the info. I will have to hear more about these drives 
RS> performance before ordering one. I already have a NEC 74 external 
RS> drive, but with the 64k cache and the 280ms access. Will watch this 
RS> echo for how other users rate this drive and the 4x as well. Rich

I should have them IN STOCK by 10/22.  Let me know if you are interested!!  JET
Computer Services @713/265-1010.  Fax # is 713/980-9435. 

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 6340
  To: RUSTY ATKINS                             Date: 10/17/93 12:04p
Subj: Re: Off-Topic-You Bet!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RA>>     The dealers want to wimp-out because of government pressure,
RA>> well, It applies to the SysOps also. If you want my business, (and
RA>> that of many people I know), you will continue to sell adult
RA>> materials.

RA>> I want to apologize to the moderator for being off-topic, but I feel
RA>> it is about time that someone spoke-up about this.

RA>> You can't make the same stand for yourself though, when you are
RA>> PAYING someone to tell you the same thing.

Hey, your stance is great, but it takes *MAJOR* bucks to tell this story to a
man in a black robe with friends sitting in a wooden box--If you can
collateralize us publishers, at $250,000 we will take a chance of going to
jail--Your heart is big, but your awareness of the dangers is narrow.

-=*>Lee<*=-

"Ex-XXX Queen of Porn"  
 
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From: KELLY KIMBALL                          Number: 6341
  To: DAVID FORD                               Date: 10/17/93  3:55p
Subj: Re: AutoCAD CD ROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I have seen a few things in cadence magazine.  Most are dxf's.  I hav
-> seen some in Video Toaster Magazine.  Problem is that they're around
->  ohch!!  Anyhow, I do 3d rendering but It's too expensive to get thin
-> with.


    Thanks for the reply David. I know what you mean about to expensive.
There has to be some sort of CD ROM out there on AutoCAD/3D Studio
shareware files and utilities! I guess I'll just keep looking...


                        Kelly.


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From: JOHN RICKER                            Number: 6342
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/17/93  9:40p
Subj: Getting into the Business               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC|o|  JR> I was wondering if anyone could tell me how I would go about getting
  |o|  JR> into the CD-ROM business (sell the CD's).. I would appreciate any
  |o|  JR> information that you could provide..


DC|o| You could start with FAYE at Tradeshows.  She carries most of the popular
  |o| titles.  You can leave her a message at 317-651-1223.  Tell her Doug Carp
  |o| sent ya.  You will need to probably get a business license and a state ta
  |o| stamp to deal with some vendors.  Also, you would benefit by getting a me
  |o| account, although you'll have to shop around, as not all banks like mail
  |o| businesses.....

I appreciate the Info Doug, and I'll call FAYE.... Thanks again..

John

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From: SCOTT MCKNIGHT                         Number: 6343
  To: RUSTY ATKINS                             Date: 10/17/93 11:03a
Subj: Off-Topic, On-Target                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>   We will not frequent trade shows, stores, or anyplace else
>that has barred this material.
>you say if your MOTHER told you that you shouldn't touch that


We carry adult titles, but do not sell to immature or underage customers. We
can tell when customers are immature by the type of messages they post in the
CD-Sale echo.  Underage customers, of course, are determined by a valid ID
card.

McKnight's Sales and Service
Rt. 4 Box 139-A
Abilene TX, 79603
FAX/Phone (915) 672-3502
BBS: (915) 672-3604 FIDO: 1:392/10

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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 6344
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/17/93  1:52a
Subj: BB2                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN.> PS--BB II is at press and should be shipping later this week--We are
LN.> drop shipping to major arteries, so your supplier should be in 'Fat'
LN.> city, soon.
LN.> 
 
Lee, am really intrested if you could give some details of BB2.  Have BB1,
rel2, and have been very happy with it.  Would appreciate any info you could
give.
Jason

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From: JD BROWN                               Number: 6345
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 10/16/93 10:34a
Subj: A Public Appeal                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RL> Mike Shannon beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
RL> 
RL> MS>I would like to make this public appeal to all Starvector's past, pres
RL> MS>and future customers:
RL> MS>
RL> MS>A problem exists in Fidoland, and it has just recently come to my
RL> MS>attention.  There exists a Fido policy which basically states that rou
RL> MS>Netmail is not to be used for the purposes of transacting any type of
RL> MS>commercial business.  This includes solicitations, direct sales, price
RL> MS>quotes, catalog requests, and the like.  I spoke with Dallas Hinton, t
RL> 
RL> This net is riddles with unreasonable rules and quite a few nazi-like
RL> dicatators called moderators (not here though) who are completely
RL> unmanaged and unregulated like the rest of the net. FIDO is big and is
RL> handy but both Intellec and especially RIME are much more pleasant places
RL> to hang out. However when it comes to buying and selling, you can't beat
RL> the size of crowd you reach here.

See if you can understand this. Fidonet is NOT a commercial network.
Fidonet is a Hobbyist Network.
Current Fidonet policy does not allow commercial use of ECHOMAIL
or routed Netmail, since it is routed along the same path as ECHOMAIL.
What you do in DIRECT Netmail is your business.
Commercial echo's like this one are "TOLERATED" as long as the messages
are of interest to EVERYONE. So any company can post their price lists,
etc...in the echo. However, when those companies use the echo to CONDUCT
business they are doing it on the backs of those people who PAY for moving
the mail.
Direct one on one transactions are a violation of Fidonet policy. This is
NOT a commercial network. RIME, is a commercial network. You must PAY
to join.






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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6346
  To: RUSTY ATKINS                             Date: 10/17/93 12:04p
Subj: Off-Topic, On-Target                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RA>     The dealers want to wimp-out because of government pressure, 
 RA> well, It applies to the SysOps also. If you want 
 RA> my business, (and that of many people I know), you 
 RA> will continue to sell adult materials. We will not 
 RA> knowingly purchase any computer equipment, 
 RA> software, etc, from a dealer that has quit selling 
 RA> adult materials. If you want to card us, fine, I 
 
America is a free country and you can very well excercise that right.  I am
going to quit selling them soon, as there is creedance to what happened to Tony
Davis for instance.  I am darn sure if you were in his shoes, you would be
speaking a different toon.  
 
 RA> support you. I am not willing to support people 
 RA> who seem to almost LIKE the idea of the government 
 RA> controlling ever aspect of your life. (what would 
 
You often do not have much choice.  To ignore the laws and risk getting busted
is not a smart choice.  It's kinda like voting.  You can vote for the other guy
and still lose and not get a darn thing done about the laws he passes, such as
another 5 cents a gallon on gasoline <g>.

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6347
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/18/93  2:11a
Subj: Tech Arsenal                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                    >>>  T E C H   A R S E N A L  <<<
   *Over 600+ Megs      *Over 7,000 Files     *'90-93' Files Mostly 92
   *Programming Codes   *Cad/Cam Support      *Desqview/Qemm Support
   *Lan Support Files   *BBS Ready            *Dupe Checked

If your looking for the best in Tech Info, Source Codes and Support Programs
on CD, look no further, as "Tech Arsenal" is one of the best you'll find on
the market today !!          PRICE - $25.00

ORDERS ONLY! US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6348
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/18/93  2:11a
Subj: Pier 3                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*************************   P I E R   3  ******************************

            New Shareware CD from "The Pier Exchange
          600 + Megs Of The Latest Shareware Programs

                         PRICE  -  $25.00

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6130

************************************************************************

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6349
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/18/93  2:11a
Subj: CDROM Systems                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00  Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare   - $379.00  NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $249.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $739.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1169.  -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms Bare Dr - $369.00  Texel Ext 245ms Bare  - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int 3021 Bare  Dr - $189.00  Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $389.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00  Mitsumi w/Sound Card  - $325.00 -PRPR
 Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50.  ALL ChestNuts CD's $12.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

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From: STEVE EVERLEY                          Number: 6350
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/18/93  2:10a
Subj: Telephone Directory                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > SE> Looking for the most up to date and complete CD 
 > SE> containing the telephone numbers for EVERYONE in 
 > SE> the U.S. I understand that someone has a set of 
 > SE> about 6-8 cd's that is real good. I have seen one 
 > SE> that is 2-CD's. I guess it is OK but definately 
 > SE> not very complete.
 > SE>   
 > SE> Can any one help me.. 
 > SE>   
 > We have the latest Mid-Year Prophone for $95.  It contains 6
 > residential and 1 business disc for names and numbers all
 > over the US.  Give us a call at 800-547-7817 to order.

When is the next update supposed to be out. I know that telephone numbers
change so rapidly that its about 10% out of date or better by the time it gets
printed. Is there a known lag time from when the info is gathered and the CD
is made.???
Thanks for the input..Looking foreward to ordering one from you.
-=Steve=-
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 6351
  To: JOKER                                    Date: 10/15/93 11:51p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Closeout!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

J>Hey could give me a number that i can call you to order a cd-rom disk? 
 
You can reach us at (205) 793-4481 for ordering and additional info. 
You must be over 21 to order any adult titles.  Thanks. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 6352
  To: SYLVAIN DESCHAMPS                        Date: 10/15/93 11:55p
Subj: Lowest CD-Rom Prices Yet!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SD>I'm a reseller and would like to receive one of your catalog.  PLEASE 
  >include the fee for delivery in Canada.  If you can please include a 
  >example like: 
 
SD>Night Owl's v10 -> 39$ + 5$ shipping in Canada via xxx + 2$ taxes... 
 
Hello Sylvain.  Night Owl 10 -> $35 US + $6 shipping to Canada. No sales 
tax applicable.  We accept Mastercard & Visa as well as checks or money 
orders.  Thanks for asking. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: TIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 6353
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 10/17/93  7:58p
Subj: Hot Pix                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RD> It was (is) banned in several states as well as 
 RD> several European countries.  It contains bestiality amongst 
 RD> other things and is better left alone unless you have a 
 RD> strong stomach.



Precisely why I'd like to get rid of it. Must be some demand, judging by what
it sells for.

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6354
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/17/93 10:08p
Subj: NEW WHOLESELL CATALOG                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NEW CATALOG WITH WHOLESELL PRICES
NEW SHIPPING ADDRESS : STEVE GREENO
                       2508 AVENIDA REGULO
                       TUCSON AZ. 85710

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From: DOUG HUMMEL                            Number: 6355
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/17/93  3:45p
Subj: CONTROLLER CARD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WANTED!!!!   CONTROLLER CARD FOR HITACHI CD-ROM MODEL CDR-3500
(THIS IS AN INTERNAL CR-ROM)
IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO ON THESE CARDS CALL DOUG HUMMEL @ (904)372-4610
OR ADDRESS ANY REPLYS TO 6602 N.W. 30TH TERRACE
GAINESVILLE, FL.   32606
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From: CHET HART                              Number: 6356
  To: BRETT PARKER                             Date: 10/17/93  7:06p
Subj: CD-ROM for trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I Sorry, but that trad deal has already been concluded. Thanks anyway.
73, Chet
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From: CHET HART                              Number: 6357
  To: CARL JOHNSON                             Date: 10/17/93  7:06p
Subj: CD-ROM for trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm sorry, but that trade has already been concluded. Thanks anyway.
73, Chet
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 6358
  To: PIERRE PROULX                            Date: 10/17/93 12:12p
Subj: NIGHT OWL V.10                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> How much are you selling the N.O. v.10?
Hi Pierre!

   We currently have it for $45 Cdn.

   Vince
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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 6359
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/17/93  8:55p
Subj: Misc items for trade                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Here's what I HAVE:

- Always IN-2000 SCSI controller with floppy port, 16-bit, w/docs...$135
- Practical Peripherals internal 9600 modem.........................$120
- Trident 8900c SVGA w/1meg, docs, drivers, box......................$50
- 387dx/25 math coprocessor..........................................$40
- (2) Microsoft Excel V4.0 shrinkwrapped (evaluation)................$60
- Wordperfect V5.1 with docs, disks (evaluation).....................$40
- OS/2 2.0 shrinkwrapped.............................................$40
- Alpha Four V1.1 with docs, disks...................................$40

Here's what I WANT:

- adult CDs
- external 14.4k modem
- cash + shipping cost

Please e-mail me here or call my number in the tagline....thanks !!
 
... Voice: 919-870-6926 (eves/weekends)
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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 6360
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/07/93  1:59p
Subj: CD Encyclopedia for sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROMS
I have a couple copies of Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia for Windows for
sale.
Version 1.01  (1992 edition)..........................Best offer
Version 2.01  (1993 edition, just released)...........Best offer
If interested, post here or call 1-504-893-7279.

Thanks,

Michael Sells
309 East Saint Mary Drive
Covington, LA 70433






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From: ZACHARY HAMM                           Number: 6361
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/17/93  4:18p
Subj: 93 SHAREWARE                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike,

What's the latest 1993 shareware CD-ROM?? I'd prefer something with EPIC
megagames and Apogee games, as well as other ASP popular title for games and
business...

Zack Hamm



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From: ZACHARY HAMM                           Number: 6362
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 10/17/93  4:21p
Subj: LOTUS 1-2-3 FOR $50                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I have Lotus 1-2-3 for windows, version 1.2 on CD for $50
 > This is the version before 4.0(current)... they skipped a
 > lot of numbers to make it even with the DOS version.  Still
 > a great program.  You cannot beat the price of $50 for it!


Are the docs included with this??  I might be interested...

Zack


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From: ZACHARY HAMM                           Number: 6363
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/17/93  4:24p
Subj: WALNUT CREEK ADDRESS?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anybody got Walnut Creek's Address and Phone Number??


Zack hamm


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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 6364
  To: TONY DAVIS                               Date: 10/18/93  3:39p
Subj: BBS Defense Fund                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TD>           The Tony Davis Electronic Defense Fund

TD>Established to help pay the costs of litigation in defense of criminal charg
  >against Tony Davis, the costs of defending the State's attempt to forfeit an
  >sell Tony Davis' Oklahoma Information Exchange BBS computer equipment and
  >prosecuting cases against persons who violated any user of the Oklahoma
  >Information Exchange BBS civil rights as a result of the raid and seizure of
  >the OIE BBS.

TD>The outcome of these legal procedures will inevitable have a long term effec
  >on the electronic communications community, and all interested parties are
  >requested to help defend their legal rights.


TD>Please send your donation to:

TD>     The Tony Davis Electronic Defense Fund
  >     3 Quarter Horse Lane
  >     McLoud, Oklahoma  74851


Will you be generating receipt for donations????

James
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From: BOBBY WIENHOLT                         Number: 6365
  To: ROB MCINTYRE                             Date: 10/17/93  6:10p
Subj: Re: Cd rom list 1 of 3                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Gifs Galore for $30 ? Good Luck ! Walnut Creek sells 'em for $24.99 so
-> that's it's regular price.
->
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Ya know, I couldn't care less.  You don't have to be an idiot about
it.

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 6366
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/18/93 12:04a
Subj: AutoCAD Shareware CDROM                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the sixth edition of
its AutoCAD CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The October 1993 CD-ROM has
876 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 125,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: RICK SHOAF                             Number: 6367
  To: TIM SCHOOLER                             Date: 10/18/93 12:20p
Subj: Re: Hot Pix                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RS> I paid about $20 or $25 for my Hot Pix 1. He probably 
 RS> bought it from
 RS> NPWC.



 TS> No, I didn't. There are very few who even sell it, and 
 TS> I've never seen it for less than 89.00. Mind telling me 
 TS> where you got it ?


I got it at a Hamfest in Dayton, OH. I couldn't even begin to tell you exactly
who I bought it from, but the highest price I saw for it was $30.


Rick 

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From: STEVE KRUEGER                          Number: 6368
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/17/93  7:40p
Subj: NEC MultiSpeed 38 for sale              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Brand New NEC MUlti Speed 38 external ec rom reader
375ms access
Multi Speed and MultiSession Kodak
scsi
all docs and cables
275.00
214-424-9920

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6369
  To: RUSS HUNTLEY                             Date: 10/17/93 11:04p
Subj: cd Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RH> Thank You very Much, I am looking for the best in a 
 RH> shareware cd-rom for a bbs, any suggestions? 
 RH> ANYONE! is (Night Owl better that Monster Media, Or 
 RH> is there a difference) I am Running SBBS, With a 
 RH> double speed CD-ROM. Thanks

I would estimate the blatest two out at the moment that are excellent are
Nightowl 10 and Pier 3.  We have them priced at $29 and $25 respectively.
There are also other great ones out also like Software Vault Gold.  Give us a
call at 615-339-0235 if you'd like to discuss them further or to order one.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6370
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/17/93 11:11p
Subj: cd list 1 of 5                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AB20 Amiga CD-Rom...300+mb, 3000+ Amiga shareware files..........10.00
America's Premier 1993 Shareware...Win,Games,fonts,clipart,gifs..16.95
Aminet Amiga...Near 600 meg from Aminet Interet Archives.....**..14.50
AMSoft (Ham)...Thousands of ham shareware/ham related programs...26.95
A.S.P...Best of ASP Association Authors Shareware................21.95
Big Sky...Hundreds of shareware programs,fast bbs install....**..26.00
C Users Group Library...User supported source code-dos,unix,cpm..27.95
CD Powerbox...6,858 files-50 categories-all '91-'92 files....**..19.95
Fred Fish On-Line 1.5...700+ 360k discs of Amiga shareware...**..49.95
Garbo MSDOS/MAC Shareware...About 250mb DOS/125mb MAC-made 5/92..14.50
Giga Games...3000+ MSDOS/Windows games/educational programs..**..18.95
Gigabyte Gold...13,111 files-99 categories-all '89-'91 files.**..19.95
Ham Radio...Enormous collection of Ham & SWL programs & data.....11.95
Libris Britannica...600+mb British shareware-tech/scientific.**..29.95
Lion Share...4208 files-400+ meg-50% '91/50% '92 shareware...**..21.95
Monster Disc...2 CDS-all 1992 shareware with book............**..37.95
Monster Media '93 #2..Sequel to Monster-400+mb-all '93-book..**..25.95
Nightowl 6.0 or 7.0...600+mb-'91/92-6M+ files-50+ categories.**..19.95
Nightowl 8.0 or 9.0...600+mb-'92/93-5M+ files-50+ categories.**..19.95
Nightowl 10.0 (New)...600+mb-all '93-5M+files-70% after 6/93.**..28.95
Nightowl Bus. Applications...Best of Nightowl business shareware.18.95
Nightowl Games...............................................**..18.95
Nightowl Graphics...All gifs.................................**..24.95
OS/2 Archives-Hobbes...2772 files-600+mb-shareware/freeware-6/93.14.50
OS2/Box...From the makers of CD Power/Winbox (Pre-Orders)........24.95
PC Sig H & B Collection...Best of PC Sig for home & business.....16.95
PC Sig World of Games............................................18.95
PC Sig World of Windows..........................................18.95
PC Sig #10...Great collection of shareware-'92...............**..16.95
PC Sig #11 or #12...Professional collection-3700+-'92-'93....**..17.95
PC Sig #9...Great collection of shareware-'90-'91............**..12.95
Phoenix #3...600+ mb shareware from 1992.....................**..11.95
Phoenix #4 (New)...Sequel to Phoenix 3-shareware.............**..16.95
Pier 3.......................................................**..24.95
Powerpak Gold...Released in 1992-Best of best-7354 files.....**..11.95
SDN 1...Collection of shareware from the SDN network.........**..19.95
Shareware Extravaganza..(4 cds)-BBS collection-25M+ files....**..38.95
Shareware 1993 v1...5,000+ files-early '93-620mb.............**..19.95
Shareware 1993 v2...6,000 files-all '93, no dupes with v1....**..23.95
Shareware Explorer..(4 cds)-5 star series-26,000 files.......**..39.95
Shareware Games..6M+ files-4/93-sports,arcade,casino,solutions...21.95
Shareware Heaven.................................................14.95
Shareware On-Line #2...'93 release...........................**..27.95
ShareWare Overload...550mb-6100 files-wide variety of programs...11.95
Shareware Studio #1..........................................**..19.95
Shareware Studio #2...637mb,6,659 files,all '92-'93 files....**..19.95
Shareware Studio #3..........................................**..19.95
Shareware Tiger...600+mb of shareware-1991...................**..19.95
Simtel 2...from internet site-9,000+ files,viewer,1/92.......**.. 8.95
Simtel 2...from internet site-9,000+ files,viewer,5/93.......**..13.95
So Much Shareware #1.........................................**..15.95
So Much Shareware #2.........................................**..19.95
So Much Shareware #3...650mb.................................**..21.95
Software Vault #2...8000 programs,most '93,released 5/93.....**..15.95
Software Vault #3-Gold...590+mb,all '93,no dupes with 1 or 2.**..19.95
Sound Sensations..Sound effects,clips,music,convertors,voices....11.95
Source Code..600+mb,15M+ files,usenet/simtel/msdos,unix/dos-3/92.19.95
Tech Arsenal.....................................................21.95
Technotools...Programmer shareware tools,many languages..........11.95
Top 2000 Shareware..Family/kids oriented,menu-driven.............19.95
Up All Night...Nice collection from Bob Hall-Summer '93......**..16.95
Win Platinum...Great colelction of Windows programs..............23.95
Winbox (CD)..................................................**..24.95
Window Master....................................................19.45
Windoware..Shareware for Win 3.1+,large variety of applications..11.95
Windows 1993...7,347 files,600+mb,'90-'92 files,many areas...**..23.95
Windows - CICA...from internet ftp site-hundreds of meg-4/93.**..14.50
X11R5/GNU Cdrom..X11R5 window system source,GNU source,Sparc.....24.95
20th Century Video Almanac.......................................32.95
7th Guest...Interactive drama in a real virtual environment......37.95
1001 Utilities...................................................12.95
9000 Sounds..Sblaster,midi,wav,adlib,pc speaker,cakewalk,mod.**..22.95
Adventures in Heaven...Games-challenge,explore,capture,monsters..14.95
Adventures of Willy Beamish...Comedy/adventure game w/Wild Willy.19.95
Aesops Fables...54 fables-music/narration/illustrations..........29.95
Aircraft Encyclopedia...MPC database of world military aircraft..35.95
Amanda Stories...Adventures of Indigo the cat & faithful camel...44.95
American Bus. Fone Book '92......................................13.95
American Bus. Fone Book '93-4....................................22.95
American Vista Atlas..Pics/maps/music/audio/history/wildlife/MPC.29.95
Anecdotes........................................................26.95
Animals SD Zoo DOS-18.95...Tour 200+ animals-300+ exhibits...MPC-20.50
Arthur's Teacher Trouble..Multimedia,surprises on every page.....26.95
Audobon Birds...1840 edition-500+ images-full text-bird calls....19.95
Audobon Mammals...Full color pallette-full text-CD quality sound.19.95
B17 Silent Service...............................................39.95
Barney Bear Goes to School...Interactive-teaches math/reading....21.95
Barney Bear Goes to Space...Barney tours space in the shuttle....21.95
Barron's Book Notes...101 complete unabridged book notes-more....38.95
BattleChess MPC...Multimedia animated chess game-audio/music.....21.95
Beauty & the Beast...WIN 3,multimedia storybook,interactive......24.95
Between Heaven & Hell 2 or 3.....................................44.95
Beyond the Wall of Stars..Futuristic adventure game beyond.......19.95
Bible Library...9 Bibles, 20 references, 27 concordances.........25.95
Bibles & Religion................................................11.95
Blue Force.......................................................43.95
Brittanica Family Choice..15 items-Berenstein Bears,Spellcopter..20.95
Brittanica Select...Business software, DAC-Easy, more............18.95


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Business Assistant...............................................13.00
Business Master...1100+ business related shareware-600+ meg......19.95
Business Phone Dir w/Zip+........................................34.95
Cameron's Fine Art Poster Catalog..Reproductions,sculpture,info..31.95
Carmen San Diego World Deluxe...3000 clues,music,anim,graphics...24.95
CD Cad v3.7 with manual...Full featured CAD w/templates..........31.95
CD Game Pack 1...6 great games...................................14.95
Cd Game Pack 2..12 games,Chessmaster 2000,Bruce Lee,Black Hole...17.95
ChessMaster 3000 MPC..from a master,learn basic to advanced.skil.18.95
Christmas Carol...The classic Charles Dickens tale...............28.95
Classic Collection (4 Pak) Sherlock,Shakespeare,Birds,Mammals....41.95
Clip Art Galore...1950 hard to find images for DTP..........**...22.95
Clip Art Goliath...11,000 images in pcx/tiff format..............11.95
Clip Art Heaven...300+ dpi images-pcx/tiff/cdr/bmp,convert/view..14.95
Coates Art Review...600+ images of impressionist works, info.....31.95
College Handbook (1992)..........................................18.95
Color Magic Clip Art..300 dpi,256 colors,royalty free............19.95
Colossal Cookbook................................................11.95
Complete Bookshop................................................11.95
Composer Quest...................................................33.95
Compton's Interactive Encylopedia................................79.95
Compton's MM Encyclopedia........................................42.95
Computer Reference Library...Tutorials for Lotus, Word Perf,more.11.95
Conan the Cimmerian..............................................28.95
Consumer Information Disc........................................37.50
Cookbook Heaven..................................................15.95
Corel 3.0 CD.....................................................57.95
Corel 3.0 Floppy + CD...........................................129.95
Corel 4.0 CD Upgrade............................................213.95
Corel 4.0 Floppy + CD Upgrade...................................219.95
Countries of the World..........................................299.95
Crossword Cracker................................................23.95
Daggar of Amon...................................................25.95
Danger Hot Stuff 2...............................................24.95
Dare, Bluff, or Die..Role play history of Wild West,educational..29.95
Database...Programs for Clipper,Foxpro,Paradox,dBase,Rbase.......19.95
DeathStar Arcade Battles.........................................11.95
Deep Voyage......................................................34.95
Desert Storm..100's of reports,photos,recorded interviews........22.95
Desktop Bookshop.................................................18.95
Dickens Complete.................................................44.95
Dictionaries & Languages..Lessons in French,German,Russain,more..11.95
Dictionary of the Living World..Facts/photos-5M+ animal species..28.95
Dinosaur Adventure..Pics,animation,narration,sounds,educational..24.95
Dinosaur Encyclopedia............................................23.95
Dinosaur Safari..................................................44.95
Dr. Games........................................................19.95
Dr. Music........................................................19.95
Dr. Windows......................................................19.95
Doctors Book of Home Remedies....................................33.95
Dune..Enhanced,original music score,best fantasy adventure game..46.95
Eco Quest, Search for Cetus......................................25.95
Education Master...Educational oriented shareware collection.....19.95
Electronic Cookbook...Complete library-1800+ recipes,pics,hints..23.95
Electronic Home Library..250 books,Plato,Poe,Shakespeare,more....21.95
Encyclopedia of Clip Art.........................................23.95
Encyclopedia of Sound..250+ sound files,WAV format,royalty free..11.95
Eric the Unready.................................................38.95
Essential Home & Business Collection..from PC Sig,368 best files.18.95
European Monarchs..History with bizarre details of kings/queens..33.95
Executive Factomatic.............................................36.95
Eye of the Beholder..............................................26.95
F117A/F1511 W/Scenario...........................................44.95
F15 III Strike Eagle.............................................57.95
Family Doctor...2000 common questions,data on 1600 drugs,pics....22.95
Fantazia Fonts & Sounds..........................................25.95
Firearms Reference..600 products in WIN/DOS BMP format.....**....21.95
Food Analyst.....................................................32.95
Fonts #1.........................................................27.95
Fresh Arte...1,500 copyright-free drawings/graphics,400 dpi......31.95
Full Bloom..100+ pics,25 movies,100 piano clips-exotic flowers...36.95
Funny............................................................28.95
Future Wars......................................................48.95
Game Arena.......................................................13.00
GameMaster (Over 500 Games)......................................19.45
Gameware Collection..............................................23.95
Games 1993...6M+ files,Apogee,unprotects,tips,arcade,flight..**..24.50
Gardening...Photos, planning, clipart, landscaping, home garden..11.95
Gifs Galore...rated G-6,000+ GIF images-wide variety.............14.50
Global Explorer (Delorme)...Streets of major world cities........84.95
Gofer Winkles Adventure...Multimedia comic book w/story & speech.34.95
Golden Immortal..................................................24.95
Goldilocks 3 Bears-English or French or Spanish..................38.95
Gov't Giveaways-Entreprenuers....................................47.95
Great Cities of World 1...MPC-10 cities-Moscow,Paris,NY,LA,Rio...23.95
Great Cities of World 2...Berlin,Buenos Aires,Chicago,Rome,more..23.95
Great Wonders of the World 1...12+ sights-Great Wall,Taj Mahal...42.95
Great Wonders of the World 2.....................................49.95
Greatest Books Collection..150+ titles,world's important books...32.95
Grolier Ill. Encyl. (STW) v2.....................................21.95
Grolier Ill. Encyl. (STW) MM or MPC..............................35.95
Guiness Disc of Records (92).....................................22.95
Gunship 2000 w/Scenario..........................................39.95
Guy Spy..........................................................39.95
Hacker Chronicles................................................21.95
HamWare 1993.....................................................19.95
Holy Bible & Other Christian Software............................18.95
Hospitality Index................................................39.95
House of Games...................................................18.95

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Indiana Jones IV.................................................43.95
Inspector Gadget.................................................46.95
Inter. Business/Economc Atlas....................................23.95
Island Designs...................................................36.95
Jack and the Beanstalk...........................................38.95
Jazz, Multimedia History...Biographies w/CD quality audio........26.95
Jets & Props..2 discs,200+ pics,200 audio clips,civil/military...29.95
Jokes & Pranks...................................................13.00
Jones in the Fast Lane.Up to 4-board game-money/career/education.19.00
Jungle Book-KAA Hunt.............................................34.95
Jungle Book-Mowgli...............................................34.95
Jungle Book-Tiger................................................34.95
Just Fonts v1....................................................19.95
Just Grandma & Me...Ultimate adventure to explore the beach......38.95
Kathy Smith-Fat Burning Systm....................................54.95
Key Clipmaster Pro...............................................32.95
Key Fonts Pro....................................................32.95
Key Home Designer................................................32.95
Kids Zoo-Baby Animal Adv.........................................36.95
Kodak Photo CD Access CD..Software-24 dazzling pics in 6 formats.16.95
King James Bible.................................................27.95
Kings Quest V...King Graham embarks to rescue his family.........19.95
Kings Quest VI Upgrade...........................................33.95
Kings Quest VI..Best games ever,help shipwrecked prince alex.....43.95
Lan Master.......................................................24.95
Languages of the World MPC-12 languages-cross ref,dict,translate.25.95
Laura Bow II.....................................................44.95
Learning at Home.................................................49.95
Learning Adventure...ABCs,123s,high school,college,games,tutors..10.00
Learning Heaven...ABCs to SAT,type,math,read,spell,sign lang.....14.95
Legend of Kyrandia...............................................48.95
Library of the Future 1..1150+ pieces literature from 450 titles.38.95
Library of the Future 2..2M+ pieces literature from 950+ titles.199.95
Lifestyles-R & F Cookbook........................................37.95
Little Red Riding Hood...........................................37.95
Loom...Lucasfilm,interactive,adventure to land of mystical bird..18.95
Lord of the Rings................................................49.95
MacMillan Dictionary-Children..12M+ words,1000+ pics,400 sounds..22.95
Mad Dog McCree...Arcade shooting game w/motion picture action....39.95
Magazine Rack....................................................20.95
Majestic Places..................................................34.95
Manhole..........................................................35.50
Maniac Mansion #2: Day of the Tentacle...........................43.95
Mantis..Fly XF5700 experimental fighter of future-fight aliens...19.95
Mario is Missing/World Atlas...Find Mario-teaches geography......26.95
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing..Renowned,expanded help/lessons......21.95
Mayo Clinic......................................................21.95
Mega Clipart.....................................................26.95
Mega Movie Guide..Comprehensive info on 50M+ movies,search.......42.95
Microsoft Beethoven 9th Symphony..Analysis,notes,lyrics,insights.57.95
Micrsft Bookshelf...Atlas,Dict,Encyl,Almanac,Quotes,Rogets ('93).40.95
Microsoft Cinnemania.............................................55.95
Microsoft Dinosaurs MPC..Interactive journey thru their world....56.95
Microsoft Golf..WIN MPC edition-on par with reality..............49.95
Microsoft Mozart.................................................62.95
Microsoft Stravinsky.............................................57.95
Microsoft Music Instruments......................................56.95
Microsoft Works..................................................39.95
Middle East Diary................................................30.00
Midi Music Shop..................................................19.95
Mixed Up Mother Goose..Ages 3+-Characters speak/sing-5 languages.19.00
Modblaster...300 classical,jazz,rock-play/analyze music files....17.95
Monarch Notes...Complete works-all sets..........................42.95
Monkey Island (Secrets of).......................................19.95
Mother Earth #2..................................................27.95
Mother of All Clipart...23,000 images-one of the largest around..15.95
Mozart...........................................................34.95
MPC Wizard-Windows...Tune a PC-CDROM tests,video/audio drv,demos.13.95
Multimedia, All American.........................................21.95
Multimedia Music Bach............................................27.95
Multimedia Tutor.................................................17.95
Murder Mystery Stories...........................................44.95
National MM Parks Guide..Parks,monuments,historic,lakes,more.....19.95
National Geographic MPC Mammals..................................23.95
North American Fax Book..150M+ fax numbers,addresses-US/Can/Mex..32.95
North American Indians..text/image database,customs,family life..32.95
Officers Bookcase................................................32.95
Oxford English Refernce Library..8 works-English/Thesaurus,more..99.95
Our House (Family Circus)........................................42.95
Our Solar System..NASA/observ photos,star locators,astro data....11.95
PC Globe 5.0.....................................................49.95
PC Karoake (OEM).................................................43.95
PC Karaoke...Create/record your own music videos & sing-a-longs..74.95
PC Karaoke Kids w/Microphone.....................................44.95
PC Medic...Diagnose problems on your PC..........................27.95
PC Sig Games.....................................................23.95
Pentaminoes......................................................31.95
Peter Rabbit.....................................................24.95
Peter & the Wolf (Win3)...Unique version-Jack Lemmon narrates....22.95
Pharmicist Guide to Drugs..Stats on 200+ most popular drugs......26.95
PhoneDisc USA...Summer '93 set of 2 CDs-80 million residential...55.95
Photos to Remember...............................................34.95
Pinacotheca MPC..800 painters,bios & work,100's of tables........21.95
Pill Book...Just like the printed version-all about 1,500+ drugs.34.95
Pixel Garden.....................................................32.95
Plant Doctor.....................................................32.95
Playing with Language-English..language games to teach skills....22.95
Playing with Language-French...language games to teach skills....22.95
Playing with Language-German...language games to teach skills....22.95

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Playing with Language-Japanese.language games to teach skills....22.95
Playing with Language-Spanish..language games to teach skills....22.95
Precision Mapping.Street maps,zoom,cad,clip,measure,print,search.68.95
Presidents, It All Started with George...........................71.95
Project Gutenberg................................................19.95
Prophone Business 1993...7 million business listings.............20.95
Prophone (3 CD Set - '92)...33 million listings-1 bus/2 resident.27.95
Prophone MidYear 1993..77 millon records-1 bus/6 residential.....99.95
ProStar..........................................................48.95
Publique Arte...Thousands of 600 dpi images-.ZIP/.PCX formats....32.95
Publish It v2.0 (w/Manual)..Word processer-graphics/layout-art...20.95
Publishers Dream Disc..1M's of PCX, ATM, TT fonts,clip-art,book..28.95
Publishers Paradise w/manual.....................................25.95
Publishers Powerhouse..750 TT fonts,8200 pcx clipart,manual......22.95
Putt Putt Joins Parade...........................................49.95
P.C. Medic (Fix your PC).........................................29.50
QRZ Ham Radio..entire FCC callbook,ham programs,club lists-5/93..14.95
QuickToons...6 full length public cartoons,Quicktime,color,b/w...35.95
Readers Library...2000 works of history,reference,literature.....20.95
Return of the Phantom............................................48.95
Return to the Moon...............................................33.95
Revell Power Model Aircraft......................................48.95
Revell Power Model Muscle........................................48.95
Revell Power Model Racer.........................................48.95
Ring World.......................................................45.95
Roger Ebert Movie Companion......................................34.95
Rotor............................................................24.95
Sales Manager's Factomatic.......................................36.95
Schumachers Prague Cookbook......................................44.95
Sci-Fi..Pics/Sound/Files-Star Trek,Star Wars,Fantasy,more....**..23.95
Seals of the US Government.......................................32.95
Secret Island Dr. Quandry........................................39.95
Secret Weapons of the LuftWaffe.Lucasfilm,fly experimental craft.23.95
Secrets-Exec Success Stories.....................................36.95
Seventh Bun......................................................37.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1..Solve case-be a sleuth-interactive..20.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2..Further mysteries-live video........48.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3..Further mysteries-intrigue-motion...52.95
Sherlock Holmes...Complete set of texts..........................16.95
Shakespeare...Complete set of texts..............................16.95
Sights & Sounds...Gifs & sound files.....................**......24.95
Snap Dragon......................................................39.95
Snapdragon.......................................................39.95
So Much Screenware (Gifs)....................................**..27.95
Softw Jukebox-All Amer Sports....................................42.95
Soundblaster MOD Files...........................................24.95
Sound Effects Library............................................17.95
Sound Works (Software)...Play audio discs on your CD drive.......17.95
Soundware Collection.............................................24.95
SoundWav.........................................................24.95
Space Adventure..Voyage-explore space,history,full-motion video..24.95
Space Quest IV..Roger Wilco adventure,rock-n-roll soundtrack.....19.95
Space Shuttle....................................................24.95
Spirit of Excalibur..Role playing/fantasy game-medieval England..28.95
Sporting News-Pro Football.......................................36.95
Sports Best on CDRom...Parasailing,tennis,kickboxing,more........24.95
Star Child.......................................................39.95
Stellar 7...Action arcade game,20 different enemies,7 worlds.....19.00
StickyBear Preschool.............................................36.95
Storybook Weaver.................................................39.95
StoryTime #1..Goldilocks,Red Hen,3 Bears-teaches read/spell......24.95
Storytime #2..Boy Cried Wolf,Milkmaid & Pail,Belling the Cat.....24.95
Storytime #3..Hare & Tortoise,Lion & Mouse,City/Country Mouse....38.95
Straight from Heaven..KJV,AV,ASV,Greek,Hebrew,Koran,Span,German..17.95
Street Atlas USA (v1-WIN)........................................85.95
Street Atlas USA (v2-WIN)...Complete US streetlevel atlas........88.95
Super Clipart....................................................15.95
Super Fonts......................................................15.95
Super Games for WIN v1...........................................15.95
Super Games for WIN v2...........................................15.95
Super Programmer...Source code for C,paradox,dBase,Foxpro,etc....19.95
Swimwear 1993................................................**..25.95
Swimwear & More (SVGA)...........................................28.95
Tempra Photo CD Software.........................................18.95
The Complete Twain...............................................31.95
The Grammy Awards...Entire 34 year history,pics,45 min+ audio....35.95
The Holy Bible...................................................31.95
Time Almanac 1990................................................14.95
Time Almanac 1991................................................19.95
TimeTable Art/Entertainmnt..Chronology-cultural,4200 stories.....22.95
TimeTable Business/Politics..Chronology-wealth,power,knowledge...22.95
TimeTable History/Science..Chronology-earth/cosmic,6000 stories..18.95
Too Many Fonts..TT,ATM,WFN,1st Pub,ghost script,HP laserjet......16.95
Too Many TypeFonts.514 TT fonts,393 ATM,modifiers,uploaders,more.11.95
TW Reference Library..Web. dict,thesaurus,speller,desk ref,legal.17.95
Total Baseball Encyclopedia..1871 to '91 world series,500+ pics..20.95
Travel in Europe.................................................28.95
Tropical Rainforest..............................................34.95
True Crime Stories...............................................36.95
Twelve Roads to Gettysburg...Comprehensive,MM,interviews,photos..44.95
Ultima Underworld 1 and 2........................................59.95
Unix..Complete sources & binaries,x-windows,tcp/ip..(Pre-orders).27.95
USA State Factbook...............................................32.95
USA Today, the 90s v.1..Multimedia capsule of 90s news/events....27.95
USA Wars-Civil War...Chronology,photos,bios,campaigns,audio......32.95
USA Wars-Korea...'50-'53-photos,stats,glossaries,bios,facts......32.95
USA Wars-Vietnam...Biographies,chronology,facts,audio............32.95
USA Wars-World War II...Detailed text/image/sound presentations..32.95
U.S. Atlas MPC.Explore with maps,state/region/country info,miles.24.95

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6374
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/17/93 11:16p
Subj: cd title list 5 of 5                    Refer: NONE
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U.S. Atlas/Automap...Maps,demographics,enviromental,conversions..24.50
U.S. Civics...Learn USA for those who want to be US citizens.....32.95
U.S. History..(Bureau).1M+ photos,maps,tables,topics,107 books...18.95
U.S. Presidents...Biographies/stats on 41 presidents/1st ladies..32.95
U.S./World Atlas w/Chessmaster & Mavis Beacon (4 Pak)............39.95
U.S./World Atlas...Maps,demograph,conversions,oceanic,area codes.18.95
U.S./World Atlas MPC v3...Windows version........................18.95
VGA Spectrum #2...Thousands of gifs/sound files..................19.95
Visions of Saturn................................................22.95
Wacky Funsters...................................................29.95
Who Killed Sam Rupert...Interactive virtual murder mystery.......28.95
Wild Places...100 stunning photos,50 audio clips-wild America....22.95
Wing Commander 2 Deluxe..........................................57.50
Wing Commander 2/UUnderWrld......................................59.95
Wing Commander/Ultima 6.Revolutionary star fighter/magic-mystery.19.95
Wing Commander w/Secret Missions.................................24.95
Wiz Pack.........................................................11.95
Wolf Pack........................................................44.95
Women of Venus (Swimsuits).......................................20.95
World Atlas MPC...Explore each continent/country of the world....24.95
World View..Sound/piano music-images of earth & solar system.....22.95
World Vista Atlas..Tour 200 countries,music,1M+ pics,MPC.........29.95
World Fact Book..CIA/KGB Yearbook,Hamm.maps,flags,247 countries..17.95
World of Flight...Complete multimedia tour thru world of planes..35.95
World of Trains...Complete multimedia tour thru world of trains..35.95
World Traveler..Hi-rez images,royalty free,pcx/gif,mm slide show.11.95
Wrath of the Demon...............................................22.95
CD Caddies (Sony Compatible)......................................4.85
Jewel Cases.......................................................1.45
Pioneer 600A (Bare)..........729.00...........Cash Price........689.00
Pioneer 600A with Kit........799.00...........Cash Price........769.00
 
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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 6375
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/18/93 11:28a
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
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 >  RD> 1)  My order was placed on 17th August and read, presumably by you,

 >  RD> 3)  My order was not dealt with until 25th of September.

 > That is correct.

          I know it's correct and good business practice, which you obviously
DON'T practice would oblige you to request confirmation of the order after this
delay.

 > That is correct if you are in the US.  I would have been happy to allow
 > you to cancel your order.  You did not request to do so, so your point
 > is invalid.

          Hardly, it is YOUR obligation after such a long delay, but it's a
moot point now

 > but I think all can see what the story is here.  If you had called me
 > back 2 weeks after you had placed your order and reminded me, it would
 > have also gone out within 3 days.

          You were reminded in THIS Echo.  Please don't add lies to bad
business practice.

 > I apologized for making a mistake

          And you don't have to do it again, but you DO have to improve your
attitude towards your customers and you DO have to realise that sticking them
with a $25,- bill for shipping 4 CDs is NOT going to get you into the top-10
business dealers around the country.


                                                   Cheers,

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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 6376
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/18/93 12:04p
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Continuing my response:

           Bleating would be more accurate, but let's see.

 >  RD> 4)  As the order was late, you shipped it out, PARTIALLY filled,
 >  RD> EXPRESS MAIL.

 > Yes....you ordered 5 Adult discs.  I had 4 of the 5.  You were already
 > steamed because your order was late.  I had no intention of waiting
 > another week till that one particular title came back into stock and
 > also letting you continue to bad mouth and flame me because your order
 > hadn't showed up.

          A couple of polite reminders in this Echo, a stronger message on your
system and NO response.  After this I am entitled to get a little steamed.

 > As to the EXPRESS MAIL, that is the way most customers overseas like to
 > get their orders.

          BULLSHIT!  I do NOT like having to pay $25,- to get 4 CDs from
ANYWHERE.  A previous order to Boris, for 3 CDs, took about 6 days in the post,
normal from the US and the postage cost was $4,- and change.

          Doug, it is my firm belief that you did this in good intent (it was
entirely misdirected however), it does not change the fact that I got ripped
off for $25,- shipping which I had NO expectation of having to pay.  To have to
pay that much for shipping on top of a 5 week delay for delivery is BULLSHIT
business practice and you have NO business making business in that way.  If you
lose customers through this excercise, you have ONLY yourself to blame.  Crying
innocence in this matter does you absolutely NO good whatsoever.  Most, DECENT,
dealers would have done something else to satisfy an irate customer, but you
appear to be much too proud for that, simply protesting that this is "normal"
practice, WHICH IT AIN'T.

 > On multiple disc orders, there is little difference
 > betweem Express Mail and Air Parcel Post, and Express Mail is the usual
 > desired choice.

          3 CDs from Boris = $4,- and change

          4 CDs from you = $25,-

          Send me the "little" difference and we got a deal.  This is BULLSHIT
and as a customer I protest your IMPUDENT lies.

 > You DID NOT SPECIGY what method of shipping you wanted.

          So you automatically use the MOST expensive.  Nice going.

 > If you want to debate this, I will be glad to post your message for all
 > to see who is right.

          In that I did not specify what postage rate to use, you are correct.
Why did you not ship it DHL, then I would have had in 48 hours and had to pay
over $100,- shipping?

 > Here is where you continue to not state the FACTS, which doesn't
 > surprise me.  Like I stated above, Express Mail is usually chosen by
 > most, and you can't complain about it since you didn't bother to tell me
 > what method you wanted.

          I'm not complaining about that, I'm complaining about YOUR choosing,
at MY expense, the most expensive mail system, in order to make up for YOUR
mistake in not getting the package out within a reasonable time.  How many
times do I have to explain that to the ever correct, always do the best thing,
Mr. Nice guy, Carpenter?  Sheesh!

 > All shipping charges are paid by the customer.

          Naturally, but the customer has a reasonable expectation of low-cost
for shipping charges.  Other (respectable) dealers use the normal postal
services.  Boris did and no dount Mike does.  The ONLY reason you used Express
delivery was because the package was LATE, it was late because of YOUR error,
you already admitted and apologised for that.  You had NO right to ship the
package to me, EXPRESS, at my expense.  It is VERY poor business practice and
will lose you customers, or at least it SHOULD.

 > That is standard business practice.

          BULLSHIT!  It's only YOUR standard business practice to cover YOUR
errors.

 > If I had shipped it by ground, which is the cheapest, you would have
 > really bitched, because it takes 30 days or longer to get there.

          Really?  Did you bother to ask?  As a matter of fact I wouldn't have
worried at all as long as the package WAS on the way, but you never even
bothered to ask, did you?  You simply shipped it out, by the most EXPENSIVE
mail, at a cost around $20,- more expensive than I should have paid.

 > And, NO, you have no right to contiue to be annoyed,as I have filled
 > my end of the bargain.  A $25 shipping
 > charge is normal for overseas orders to get them insured if you happen
 > to order 4-5 discs and to get them in a reasonable amount of time.  So,
 > your argument regarding the Express Mail is hot air.

          I don't think so, but at least others are warned about this.  I am
angry that I got burned by your sloppy business techniques and needless to say
you will get no more orders from me.  Other potential customers have been
warned of the way you do business and hopefully they will put their trust, and
business, into the hands of people who can treat customers with respect and
decency without causing them unwanted and unnecessary cost.

 > Yes, I normally have it in stock.  As I explained earlier, it wasn't at
 > the time of shipment.  You assume that I have it on backorder and intend
 > on shipping it.  I left you a note with your order that you got that I
 > was NOT backordering it for you since it would cost you a fortune in
 > shipping costs for one CD.

          It certainly would the way YOU do business.  Yes, that order is
indeed cancelled.  You will receive no more orders from me.  It WILL be ordered
from a DECENT supplier and doubtless will be shipped at a charge of around $2,-
to $4,- which IS normal for such things.

 > I would recommend you buy it elsewhere the next time you order something.

          I would go further, I would recommend EVERYONE to buy elsewhere, the
next time they order.  There ARE decent suppliers out there and THEY at least
DESERVE to be in business.

 > I have treated you more than fairly

          That's the REAL problem, isn't it?  You REALLY do believe that.  One
mistake, compounded by another and "Hey, I'm a nice guy, I've treated you
fairly".  Wake up and get real.

 > Please go harrass someone else, since you obviously enjoy it.

          I don't enjoy this at all, Doug, but it IS necessary in this case.

 > You have continued to be obstinate and obnoxious, and I don't need that
 > kind of business.

         You don't need ANY kind of business at all and going on the way you
are, you will very soon lose it all.

          I am out of pocket because of your poor business attitude and if I
can do anything to prevent the same thing from happening to someone else, then
I will do so.  Your stubborn defence of almost total incompetance, does you no
good whatsoever and does not bode well for your future as a businessman.  In
the end it is the customers who will tell, they have, in your case, been
forwarned.


                                                   Cheers,


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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 6377
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/18/93 12:04p
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 6378
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/18/93 12:14p
Subj: ron dwight                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I want to take a moment to apologize to Tim and the rest of the members
 > of this echo for having to read all this garbage from and to Mr. Ron
 > Dwight.

          You would be better apologising for the poor way in which you run
your business, the manner in which you handle orders, the excessive costs you
force customers to bear and the arrogance with which you treat them when they
"DARE" to complain.  Threatening customers using the words "Libel and Slander"
is NOT good PR.

 > Tim, I settled with this guy and he just won't leave it to rest.

          An outright LIE!  You have settled NOTHING.  What you have done is
offer a list of half-baked excuses as to why YOU fouled up and why I had to pay
unexpected additional costs.  This is NOT settlement.

 > Would you please send the gentlemen an official warning to please take
 > this discussion to netmail or cease and desist as noone wants to read all
 > this garbage. The gentleman is now becoming very annoyiung and
 > obnoxious.

          I am not a gentleman, I am the single most important person you will
EVER meet in your entire life.  I am a CUSTOMER and other CUSTOMERS should be
informed so that they may make wise buying decisions based upon past
performance.  Those customers are now informed of how you conduct business and
how you treat customers after YOU have fouled up.

          Strange really, all this could have been avoided when my original
order was shipped with, "Hey man, sorry about the delay, package shipped
(normal Mail) at my expense."  You would have been out of pocket 3-4 bucks on
the deal, although not out of profit and would have had another customer.  As
it is............. we'll see.



                                                   Cheers,

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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 6379
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 10/18/93 12:20p
Subj: CD Player                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Pat,

 >  PR> person know the money was in the mail. Could you
 >  PR> please tell how and where I make replys, any help
 >  PR> would be great. I am not a dealer just a housewife

 > Replies should be sent by netmail.  That way only the sender has to pay
 > for them.

          Replies for orders and such, one to one correspondance with a dealer,
should be sent "crash" or "Direct" NetMail.  Altenatively via some other
Network than Fidonet.

          FidoNet is an amateur organisation in which every SysOp pays his/her
own costs. It is not deemed reasonable that businesses should use the network
for the purposes of profit, on the backs of those volunteers.  The situation in
EchoMail is somewhat anomolous and strained right now, but ROUTING NetMail
orders and such could (I said could, not would <grin>) get the echo into
problems with the Fidonet backbone operators.

         Basically, if you wish to place an order then use CRASH or DIRECT
NetMail and NOT routed NetMail.  Another alternative would be to use the
vendor's BBS.  Thanks for reading.


                                                   Cheers,

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From: RICK ROSINSKI                          Number: 6380
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/16/93 10:52a
Subj: Hobbes OS/2 CD for sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For Sale:

Used Hobbes OS/2 CD-ROM dated 11/92.  $10, includes shipping.

If interested, respond here or via netmail at 1:239/1004.

I can also be reached on my BBS at 517-695-9952 or by voice at 517-695-2256
(after 6:00 p.m. EST).

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6381
  To: JD BROWN                                 Date: 10/19/93  7:13p
Subj: A Public Appeal                         Refer: 9806
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Direct one on one transactions are a violation of Fidonet policy. Thi
-> NOT a commercial network. RIME, is a commercial network. You must PAY
-> to join.

The moderators of FidoNet conferences should be required to pay for
thier echos.  That would solve everybody's problems.

Are you the same "James D. Brown" who stirred up all the stink in CDROM
about a year an a half ago?  Just curious....

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6382
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 10/19/93  7:05p
Subj: ron dwight                              Refer: 9839
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> force customers to bear and the arrogance with which you treat them w
-> "DARE" to complain.  Threatening customers using the words "Libel and
-> is NOT good PR.
->
->  > Tim, I settled with this guy and he just won't leave it to rest.
->
->           An outright LIE!  You have settled NOTHING.  What you have
-> offer a list of half-baked excuses as to why YOU fouled up and why I

Yall stop it!  EOT.

tim
moderator
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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 6383
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/17/93  5:35p
Subj: A PUBLIC APPEAL                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Doug Carpenter beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

DC> RL> This net is riddles with unreasonable rules and quite a few nazi-
DC> RL> dicatators called moderators (not here though) who are completely
DC>
DC>There you are wrong.  If it wasn't for moderation, people would go cra

You didn't catch my drift Doug. I fully agree that we need moderators
here. My point is that the moderators need to be moderated in the worst
way in some conferences.

Ron



 * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * NO special rights for behavior!


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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 6384
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 10/17/93  5:36p
Subj: CLIPART CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Brice Fleckenstein beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

BF>>Can someone reccommend a GODD Clipart CD.
BF>
BF>Colormagic has gotten a lot of good mentions....

Thanks!



 * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * Red ribbons do nothing to help AIDS patients.


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From: KEN BANISTER                           Number: 6385
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 10/12/93  5:45p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Catalog!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in receiving your catalog.  Please send a copy to "16 Bearberry

Crescent N.W. Calgary Alberta Canada T3K 1R2". 


Thanks.

Ken

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From: KEN BANISTER                           Number: 6386
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/12/93  5:52p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM PRICE$ 1 of 3                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

I would like to get a catalog and find out if you ship to Canada.  My address
is
"16 Bearberry Crs. N.W. Calgary, Alberta Canada T3K 1R2."

Thanks,

Ken


... Nobody notices when things go right.
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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 6387
  To: RICHARD WICKER                           Date: 10/18/93  5:32p
Subj: Adult GIFs on CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I am interested in collecting more adult Gifs on CD.  I have
 > Stareware. I
 > know of the Storm collection. What are the other titles I should be
 > looking
 > for, and how do you rate them?


 I have both Storm I and III and I'd say Storm III is the better of the two,
storm I has a lot of dupes, some gifs that have defects and a bunch of bbs
doors which in my opionin was to fill the disk. They do have file listings not
sure how much trouble to use a on bbs since I don't.

                                    Mike Harris

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From: FRANK GRESH                            Number: 6388
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 10/18/93 10:55p
Subj: ADULT CD-DISC Titles                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>House of Dreams Digital Movies       a      48.00
JR>Night Trips Interactive Adult        a      51.20

Joe, could I ask you to expand on these two disks a little?  I am
especially interested in the HOD Digital Movie, and what the system
requirements might be, and secondly, what exactly is an "interactive" cd
title, I understand the principal of interaction, but am a little
curious as to how it is applied on an adult CD.

Thanks....Frank

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From: LARRY HUEGELE                          Number: 6389
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 10/18/93 12:58a
Subj: FREE CATALOG                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* Replying to a message originally to All on Oct-13-93

SG> FOR A FREE CATALOG OR TO PLACE AN ORDER , WRITE TO:
SG> STEVE GREENO
SG> 1275 E. PRINCE
SG> TUCSON AZ. 85719

Please send your free catalog to:

Larry Huegele
910 Highknoll Ct. #46
Villa Hills, KY  41017

I just recently got a CD-ROM drive and NEED some cd's!

TTYLaterz....


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From: LARRY HUEGELE                          Number: 6390
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 10/18/93  1:03a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG 10/13/93                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How does one go about ordering

SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 ... $25

from you?

TTYLaterz....


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From: AL TUFANO                              Number: 6391
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/18/93  6:52p
Subj: CD-ROM controller card wanted.          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Wanted a Hiatchi 40 pin internal controller card. Will pay for shipping.  
 
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From: ADRIAN VERGOT                          Number: 6392
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/18/93  8:18p
Subj: Custom CD-ROM $75 !                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM? 
 
CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your proprietary DOS or Windows
files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and Affordable.
All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information
(600+ Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (other
formats considered on a case by case basis) and we will directly
transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any
ISO compliant CD-ROM drive (just about every one made today!)
 
- Confidentiality is assured
- $75 per CD-ROM (mention this add)
- additional copies only $50 each
- Turn around time is about 2 days
- BBS Sysops call for rates
- We accept money orders and cashiers checks
- Pesonal Check orders will be shipped when check clears bank
 
If interested, call (412) 942-4694 and ask for Adrian 
Auto Fax (412) 942-4694
 
CD ROM Creations
108 Shady Lane
McMurray, PA  15317
 
Enclose a signed copy of the following disclaimer with your order:
 
DUE TO THE BULK NATURE OF THIS SERVICE, CD-ROM CREATIONS (c) DOES
NOT AND CAN NOT CENSOR AND DETERMINE THE NATURE OF THE MATERIEL
THAT THE CUSTOMER IS PROVIDING.  IT IS THEREFORE THE SOLE
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER TO ENSURE THAT NO COPYRIGHT
VIOLATIONS EXIST IN PLACING THE DATA ONTO CD-ROM
                      Signed ______________________________
                                     Your Signature

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From: ADRIAN VERGOT                          Number: 6393
  To: LARRY FOSTER                             Date: 10/18/93  8:56p
Subj: Custom CD-ROMs                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The cost for 10 of the same CD comes out to $480.  This will be shipped UPS
ground unless otherwise specified by you.
 
If you have any questions, you can fax or leave a message at 
(412) 942-4694.
  
- Adrian Vergot
  CD-ROM Creations
  108 Shady Lane
  McMurray, PA  15317
 
 P.S. Please remember the disclaimer

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From: ANDY ESTRONICK                         Number: 6394
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/17/93 10:53p
Subj: CDROM                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     Hi, I'm looking for a CDROM player .. very cheap , it can be as slow as
hell i don't care. BUT it must be scsi and external.

              

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From: MARCIAL MORENO                         Number: 6395
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/18/93 10:46p
Subj: Cd-rom disc's for sale!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@SUBJECT:CD-ROM DISC's FOR SALE!!!!                                  N

                                CD-ROM DISC's

                  Nightowl 10 ................... $34.50ea
                  Software Vault Vol 2........... $21.00ea
                  Phoenix Vol 4 ................. $24.00ea
                  Shareware Studio III .......... $30.00ea
                  SoundWav I .................... $27.00ea
                  Super Smutware Vol 2 .......... $27.00ea
                  Local Girls 3 in 1 CD ......... $26.00ea
                  Island Girls 3 in 1 CD ........ $26.00ea

    ******* All prices include shipping and handling in the USA ********
                      CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS ADD 8.25% TAX

                          Check or Money orders to:
                          Mega-ROM SoftWare
                          13724 Saranac Dr.
                          Whittier, CA  90605-4229
                          (310) 941-8074

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6396
  To: VIKKI CLAYTON                            Date: 10/18/93  9:10p
Subj: Hot Pix                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hot Pix 1 goes for about $99 from the places that do sell them.


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6397
  To: MARK SANCHEZ                             Date: 10/18/93  9:18p
Subj: Lowest price CD-ROMS!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> Call Lee at Brainchild Computer Distributions for the best price on
 MS> Mitsumi CD-ROMs. 350ms access and 150k/sec transfer rate. Controller
 MS> included..... $169.00!

 MS>                                        Mark
 MS> BCD
 MS> 800-972-9263
 MS> Local, 972-9263
 MS> Tampa, FL!

Excellent price.  If I see anyone looking, I'll send them your way.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6398
  To: MICHAEL APPELBAUM                        Date: 10/18/93  9:20p
Subj: CD Multidisk Changer                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MA> Anyone have any prices on Multidisk Changers?
 MA> Michael Appelbaum
 MA> -GeoNet BBS (617) 784 -5619

     PCJ Computing proudly announces lower pricing on the
             Pioneer DRM600A 6 disc CD-ROM changers.
 
            The new, lower pricing is listed below.
 
Drive                       Access time (avg)     Disc change time
------------------------------------------------------------------
DRM600A                        600ms                  5 - 7 sec.
 
Pricing:
                            ************ CASH ONLY Pricing *********
Drive                       Bare drive          Kit (inc card/cable)
--------------------------------------------------------------------
DRM600A                       $689.00 <-(Delivered)-> $769.00
 
International sales and shipping welcome. Contact us by fax or leave a
message here if you are outside the USA and we will be happy to quote a
price for shipping to anywhere in the world. No CODs accepted on these.
 
   **  Get your best price on the 600A and we'll meet or beat it. **
 
   **  CONTACT US FOR SPECIAL BUNDLE PRICING WITH 3 CDS MINIMUM **
 
        If interested, contact Doug Carpenter at PCJ Computing.
 
            Toll Free (800) 547-7817 (Orders only, please!)
  Voice (615) 476-4026     FAX (615) 479-1047     BBS  (615) 478-2890

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From: TOM HUNT                               Number: 6399
  To: RICK SHOAF                               Date: 10/18/93  7:07p
Subj: Re: Hot Pix                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you know where I can pick up the Hot Pix 1 for $25-$30
thanks


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From: AL BUNDY                               Number: 6400
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/18/93 10:13p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 3/3                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

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From: ALLEN COX                              Number: 6401
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/18/93  9:23p
Subj: bbs cd's ???                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello i'm looking for some new CDs for the bbs, I try to run something
that not to many people have as i like my bbs to be different from the
rest,
can someone out there recomend a good adult and shareware cd?

currently i'm running storm III for adult, and  softwarevault for the
shareware.

                        allen

p.s can also send responses to fido address of 1:395/26

or call mt bbs (The Midnight Run at 817-698-3922)


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From: TONY DAVIS                             Number: 6402
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 10/19/93  6:44a
Subj: BBS DEFENSE FUND                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Will you be generating receipt for donations????

Yes.

Tony

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From: DANIEL PARDUE                          Number: 6403
  To: LARRY HUEGELE                            Date: 10/19/93 11:27a
Subj: FREE CATALOG                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> FOR A FREE CATALOG OR TO PLACE AN ORDER , WRITE TO:
> STEVE GREENO
> 1275 E. PRINCE
> TUCSON AZ. 85719
Please send a catalog to:

Daniel Pardue
29 Melrose Dr.
Marrero, LA 70072

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From: PAT GANNON                             Number: 6404
  To: DON KAHLUA                               Date: 10/17/93  8:17p
Subj: Why is the file section gone?           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: JEFF HUBERT                            Number: 6405
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/18/93  9:03p
Subj: Cd-rom Drive for sale!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a high-quality mitsumi cd-rom dirve for sale for $165 or best
offer.
It has a 350ms access time and is less than a month old. I have all the
software, manuals, 16-bit card adaptor, and everything else that came
with the drive. Everything
in brand new condition! please call (410) 442-2726 if you are
interested.
It is multisession photo-cd compatible also!
ONLY $165 or best offer!

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From: JEFF HUBERT                            Number: 6406
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/18/93  9:05p
Subj: Cd-rom Drive for sale!                  Refer: NONE
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I have a high-quality mitsumi cd-rom dirve for sale for $165 or best
offer.
It has a 350ms access time and is less than a month old. I have all the
software, manuals, 16-bit card adaptor, and everything else that came
with
the drive. Everything in brand new condition! please call (410)
442-2726 if
you are interested.   It is multisession photo-cd compatible also!
ONLY $165 or best offer!

--- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93
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From: BOBBY WIENHOLT                         Number: 6407
  To: DAVID ROBERTS                            Date: 10/18/93 11:09p
Subj: Re: Cd rom list 3 of 3                  Refer: NONE
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->  BW> Guiness Disc of Records 1993                           $40
->
-> Would you be interested in trading an original Busty Babes for the
-> above disk and a Compton's Multimedia Encyclopedia?  If so, give me a
-> call at 808-624-1293.
->
->
-> ... Just what do they teach training bras anyway?
-> ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
-> --- GEcho 1.00
->  * Origin: The Homeboy Shopping Network - 808-624-1294 (1:345/23)


Sorry... no trades.

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 6408
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/18/93 11:37p
Subj: Assembler Source/Utilities CD-ROM       Refer: NONE
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EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the sixth edition of
its Assembler CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The October 1993 CD-ROM has
400 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 125,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: TOM ROSETTI                            Number: 6409
  To: RICHARD WICKER                           Date: 10/18/93  7:02p
Subj: Adult GIFs on CD                        Refer: NONE
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 > I am interested in collecting more adult Gifs on CD.

HotPix 1-5.

Tom

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From: PAUL CHATFIELD                         Number: 6410
  To: ROBERT MOORE                             Date: 10/16/93  7:54p
Subj: Hitachi CD ROM Drive                    Refer: NONE
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 RM> I recently purchased four Hitachi CD ROM 3500 drives.  
 RM> The place where I bought them does not have anymore.  I 
 RM> would like to purchase more of the Hitachi 3500/3600 
 RM> series drives.  I have seen prices ranging from $60 to 
Contact "Terry Blount" via net mail in the usa...he may have some left...i got
9 from him some time back.....Good Luck

--- Maximus 2.01wb
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 6411
  To: VIKKI CLAYTON                            Date: 10/18/93 11:04p
Subj: Re: Hot Pix                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <10-16-93 21:07> Vikki Clayton wrote:
VC>>  > TH>> Hot Pix 1

VC>> I have this.  How valuable is it ???!?!?
VC>> Enquiring minds want to know !

It has never been thought of as a commodity that commands outrageous bucks--it
still can be found, but I know that alot of the Hot Pix Series are out of press
for good--Perhaps in a few years this could change :)

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 6412
  To: MARK ELSON                               Date: 10/18/93 11:13p
Subj: CDs                                     Refer: NONE
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In a message to Mike Shannon <10-16-93 23:36> Mark Elson wrote:

ME>> is the new Busty Babes out yet??

Yup, We shipped to the distributors on Monday.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 6413
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 10/18/93 11:15p
Subj: Re: Photo CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <10-16-93 07:11> Jeff Jenkins wrote:

JJ>> Can Kodak photo CD pictures be  converted to the .GIF format or
JJ>> viewed with any other software?
JJ>> anyone...?

I believe Tempra Access by Mathematica (its on CD-ROM) allows this--Well, thats
what they said at the CES show during the demo's--

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 6414
  To: PETE PASZKOWSKI                          Date: 10/18/93  8:45a
Subj: Re: Used CD-ROM drive                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Pete -

   PP> Anyone out there have a used CD-ROM drive for sale? I'm
   PP> looking to expand my BBS but don't want to buy another
   PP> new CD-ROM. Let me know if you have one for sale.....

Mitsumi LU-005S CD-ROM drive (only 1), like new, complete
with controller and updated driver software (I will also
include the OS/2 drivers if you wish).

This is the faster of the two single-spin Mitsumis currently
available (350ms access and 150k/sec transfer rate), reads
MULTI-SESSION photo CD's, and is fully MPC compliant.

I will include a THREE-DISC set of shareware, with a total
of over 20,000 programs.

Price: $210.00 (U.S.), and I'll pay the shipping.

In addition, if you would like Photo-CD software, I can add
the Tempra Access CD-ROM to the package for an additional $25.

Reply in this echo, or by NetMail to 1:141/950.1, or

(voice) 203-746-1195 (M-F, 9-5)
        203-746-1727 (eves, weekends)

                                                  - Arnie :+}


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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 6415
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 10/03/93  3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM REVIEW: BUSTY BABES V1#3         Refer: NONE
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The Following is a CD-ROM "review."  The opinions expressed belong 
solely to Dave Clark, Sysop of Arsenal Computer BBS. 
 
]]]     TITLE: Busty Babes Volume 1 Release 3.0 
]]]      SIZE: 528 Megs 
]]]     FILES: 3248 
]]] PUBLISHER: Florida Lions Den, Inc. 
]]]  CATEGORY: Adult, End User & BBS Ready 
]]]     DATED: 07-19-93 
 
This is release 3.0 of the very famous Busty Babes disc.  This is not 
really a "new title" but a rework of the original BBS disc.  If you 
have a copy of the older disc, you may or may not want a copy of the 
newer version, depending on your needs.  I'll explain more on that 
later. 
 
The new ShowOff routines were rather fascinating, but a bit slow for me 
to operate.  Some of the features of it are rather neat, I must admit, 
such as the ability to see the "file description" when you move your 
mouse over the image in question. 
 
The images on this disc are, for the most part, scans culled from BBS's 
around the country.  I can't honestly say that they might be culled from 
other CD's, because Busty Babes predates most of the adult CD's on the 
market today!  <smile!>  It's more likely that any culling done was done 
*From* Busty Babes, rather than *by* Busty Babes. 
 
Because of these sources, some of the images are nice, some of them are 
not all that whoopie.  Typical of BBS scans, in my opinion.  You have 
some really good scanners out there, and some not-so-good scanners. 
 
Regarding the "perhaps you need it, perhaps you don't" message, let me 
explain:  If you are an "end user" and have an earlier copy, there is 
very little new here for you.  The major difference between this 
release and prior releases is the Showoff interface, and the removal of 
certain "sensitive" files (ie: copyrighted material that was 
inadvertently placed on the disc).  As an end user, this is probably 
not enough to make it worth your while to switch to the new version. 
If you are a SysOp, however, it might be a very good idea to switch 
to the new title.  The removal of the "sensitive" images makes it a 
much safer disc to run online, and in this rather litigative society 
that we all live in, the more protection you have, the better. 
 
The files are classified by subject, as per the norm with Florida 
Lion's Den products. 
 
BBS Readiness is supplied by adding a "FILES.BBS" list to each 
subdirectory, in the following format: 
 
AA_12367.GIF [0] Graphic File Description Placed Here 
 
This is not an easy format to convert to other BBS systems.  Luckily, 
for the less intrepid out there, there is a file called ALLFILES.LST in 
the root directory that has file listings in this format: 
 
ACTION_2.GIF   210155 13-Jul-93 [0] Graphic File Description Placed Here 
 
While not perfect by any means, this one is a LOT easier to convert into 
useful formats than the prior one.  However, all the file listings are 
in one big text list, and you will have to use your favorite editor to 
break it into appropriate chunks, as well as making the changes to make 
them into your format of choice.  While not preferable, the inclusion of 
this file does make converting the disc a LOT easier.  I hate having to 
convert discs from the abreviated "FILES.BBS" format that is used on a 
lot of discs these days. 
 
The file SYSOP.DOC in the root directory indicates that there are utils 
contained for converting their provided file listings into several 
different formats.  I looked for one listed, Spitfire, the BBS software 
that I run, and came up with nothing usable for conversion. 
 
Personally, I feel that a BBS ready disc sh--- TBBS v2.1/NM
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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 6416
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 10/03/93  3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM REVIEW: SHAREWARE EXPLORER       Refer: NONE
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The Following is a CD-ROM "review."  The opinions expressed belong 
solely to Dave Clark, Sysop of Arsenal Computer BBS. 
 
]]]     TITLE: Shareware Explorer 
]]]      SIZE: [1] 447 Megs  [2] 482 Megs  [3] 523 Megs  [4] 498 Megs 
]]]     FILES: [1] 8688      [2] 6083      [3] 5084      [4] 6996 
]]] PUBLISHER: New Frontiers CD-ROMs 
]]]  CATEGORY: Shareware/BBS Ready 
]]]     DATED: 08-06-93 
 
I approached this set wondering to myself if they had managed to break 
the "multi-disc cruddiness" that I've noticed in other multi-disc 
collections.  By this, I mean that with one notable exception, every 
multi-disc set that I've come across has been rather... annoying. 
They had several problems, too many to bother with mentioning here. 
The only exception was World Vision. 
 
World Vision still holds that title in my book. 
 
I started out by browsing the disc looking for highlights.  And boy, 
did I find them, in spades.  But, I'll get to that later, and take 
this in my normal pattern. 
 
When attempting to install the end user interface, I was greeted by two 
executable files... a GO.BAT and an INSTALL.EXE.  I selected the GO.BAT 
at first, and found, much to my annoyance, that it only displayed text 
files.  I read some of them, found some useful and a lot of totally 
useless information, and went on to the INSTALL.EXE.  After supplying 
the data that it requested, it installed the program to my hard drive, 
and I was off. 
 
Or was I?  It turns out that the install did nothing more than install 
a short batchfile that referred to nothing in particular in regards to 
the disc, or the interface program.  Feeling that NOTHING could be 
THAT dumb, I decided to have other people test the disc to see if they 
could make it work, or if it really was as dumb as it looked. 
 
I put my wife, Korene, in front of it, and offered no help.  I figured 
that this would be a good test, simulating someone that doesn't know 
DOS as an expert and would have to use the user interface.  After 
several minutes of utter confusion trying to make heads or tails of 
what it was doing, she ended up with the exact same results that I got. 
In other words, nothing.  When asked what she thought of the user 
interface on the disc, her reply was short and to the point. 
 
Unfortunately, it cannot be reprinted here. 
 
Korene works at a local VA Hospital as a computer processing manager, 
but her knowledge of DOS systems is not up to her professional 
knowledge.  She normally works with the voice activated systems that 
she has to maintain.  Luckily, my system is not voice activated, because 
I'm not sure how it would have interpreted the string of "commands" 
that she gave it once she was done attempting to make it work. 
 
Ok, last chance... I turned Scott Reigle loose on it.  Scott is the 
SysOp of Farkem Asylum, a gaming board.  Scott has configured several 
hundred different BBS programs for his board, and I figured that he was 
our last, greatest hope. 
 
Well, Scott tried a different tactic, got different messages, and ended 
up with the exact same results.  Yeesh.  Scott's reaction was, while 
not quite as colorful as Korene's, quite enlightening.  Something that 
I cannot say about the software. 
 
I finally got the software operational using the /nowrite option and 
running it right from the CD-ROM.  What greeted me was one of the 
slowest CD-ROM interfaces that I've ever had the misfortune to come 
across. 
 
To say that I wasn't pleased would be an understatement. 
 
Ok, lets go look at the BBS readiness of the disc.... 
 
The files in t--- TBBS v2.1/NM
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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 6417
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 10/03/93  3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM REVIEW: TECH ARSENAL             Refer: NONE
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The Following is a CD-ROM "review."  The opinions expressed belong 
solely to Dave Clark, Sysop of Arsenal Computer BBS. 
 
]]]     TITLE: Tech Arsenal 
]]]      SIZE: 629 Megs 
]]]     FILES: 7441 
]]] PUBLISHER: Arsenal Computer 
]]]  CATEGORY: Shareware/BBS Ready/End User Ready 
]]]     DATED: 09-03-93 
 
No, you are not seeing things.... we here at the Arsenal really DID 
publish this disc!  <smile!>  However, lest you think that I'm going 
to be self serving here, let me emphasize one thing... I always offer 
a money back guarantee on any disc that I sell, and of course, my 
stuff is going to be given the same treatment... <smile!>  I'm going 
to give this the same going over that I do any other disc, and I'm going 
to be just as frank as I would for anyone else.  I don't play favorites 
here. 
 
Of course, let's face one fact... why in the h*ll would I make a disc 
that I would have to trash?  <SEG!>  I have been looking at everyone 
else's product, so I know what goes, and what doesn't, and I designed 
my disc accordingly. 
 
So, with that out of the way, here goes. 
 
Tech Arsenal deals solely with technical subjects, such as programming 
utilities and source code, Local Area Networking, dBase programming and 
applications, Anti-Virus utilities, Text & Hex Editors, Caching, Testing 
and Diagnostics, Drivers, Backup & Data Recovery, Computer Aided Design, 
Desqview & QEMM, and even HAM radio & Scanner material is covered on 
this disc. 
 
File dates are from September 1993 to 1990 on source code (due to the 
fact that, by and large, source code is "ageless") and the programs 
have dates ranging from September 1993 to 1991.  However, please bear 
in mind that if a filedate is 1991 or 1992, then it's because no later 
version was found. 
 
Dupliacation of filenames was kept to a strict minimum.  Why not 
entirely gone, you might ask?  Simply put, I found some duplicate 
filenames in two areas, with files that had NOTHING to do with each 
other, and in some cases, there were utilities that really did have 
application in multiple file areas, such as a programming utility that 
would be used in C/ASM, Basic, and Pascal... so it appeared in each 
section, rather than making the people interested only in one section 
have to go "hunting" for it in others.  These files are on there 
quite intentionally to make it easier to use.  However, the percentage 
of such files is VERY small. 
 
BBS readiness is very apparent (go figure!).  File listings are provided 
in PCBoard, Spitfire, and QBBS formats, with a Database of the file 
Descriptions available on the disc as well, so that you can create your 
own very easily, if you so desire.  All but the DBF files are available 
in both the referenced file subdirectory, and in a separate file 
subdirectory.  The "all in one" setup allows door users (such as myself) 
ease of use, while the file listings in each directory means that those 
that either with to run "native" (with the disc directly accessed by the 
BBS) or those with specific conversion utilities, such as TBBS SysOps, 
are not left out in the cold. 
 
The subdirectory structure is quite simple, with the files contained in 
subdirectories named TEK-01 through TEK-21.  The File listings are in 
/FILELIST, and the information for SysOps is contained in the 
subdirectory /SYSOPS.  Simple enough, eh?  <Grin!> 
 
Some additonal note should be paid to the user interface on this... 
in a rather "unusual" move, the user interface was not the usual 
program that people have come to expect, but the EZRom Door interface, 
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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 6418
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 10/03/93  3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM REVIEW: TOTAL FANTASY            Refer: NONE
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The Following is a CD-ROM "review."  The opinions expressed belong 
solely to Dave Clark, Sysop of Arsenal Computer BBS. 
 
]]]     TITLE: Total Fantasy Disc 1 
]]]      SIZE: 621 Megs 
]]]     FILES: 4149 
]]] PUBLISHER: STC CDROM of Denmark 
]]]  CATEGORY: Adult CD-ROM 
]]]     DATED: 06-29-93 
 
This disc comes in a rather blatant red coloration... red disc, red 
tray, red printing, etc.  Certainly something that would be hard to not 
see sitting on the shelf... 
 
Well, here are some of the things that I noted about the disc... 
 
The disc "failed" the "louisville slugger" test... no, this does not 
mean that I took a baseball bat to the disc, although I sometimes feel 
that this would be the most useful thing to do to some discs. But in 
this case, it refers to whether or not a disc contains an image known as 
"BATTERUP.GIF."  This is one of the more tasteless images in wide 
distribution, and it consists of a woman with a baseball bat in a place 
that it really doesn't belong.  The inclusion of this image shows the 
following detrimental points: [1] that the disc is comprised of images 
that have already been seen on CD-ROM's and [2] that the publishers have 
no taste whatsoever!  <smile!> 
 
Most of the images are either culled from BBS's, or other CD-ROM's. 
I've seen a large number of the "samples" that I went through (no, I 
didn't go through the entire disc, I simply don't have the time or 
patience to do that, especially with a product like this) and found most 
of them to be rather disappointing.  The best images that I came across 
were the SPCR*.GIF series in the BUSTY subdirectory, but even those had 
some poor quality images and one was a mosaic of nothing more than three 
very small scans repeated three or four times each on a bland 
background.  Very, Very, VERY annoying. 
 
The user interface consisted of a program that would attempt to install 
the users choice of some versions of VPIC.  Yawn. 
 
Spying a directory called PENT on the disc, I checked and found that 
the very first file was described as "Julie Strain, Penthouse Pet June 
1991."  I think that someone really is asking for trouble here.  These 
images are very obviously scanned from Penthouse magazine, and the 
file descriptions openly admit this. 
 
The problem is that not only is Penthouse a copyrighted material, but 
they offer their own online service, and have been taking as militant 
a stance in enforcing their copyrights as has Playboy.  Perhaps this 
Denmark based publisher thinks that they are immune from copyright 
suits, but us BBS operators here in America are NOT granted such 
immunity.  I think that this is really asking for trouble. 
 
Needless to say, I wouldn't even THINK about running this on a BBS. 
 
This disc has files arranged by alphabet, and by a handful of 
categories. 
 
The BBS readiness (ha ha) has been supplied by putting in some alleged 
"file descriptions" of the following nature:  Each subdirectory has 
file listings with "FILES.BBS" and "FILES.BB1" on them.  The "FILES.BBS" 
listings look like this: 
 
DANAXT02.GIF Rather Graphic Text Description 
 
The FILES.BB1 listings look like this: 
 
DANAXT02.GIF  (640X480X256) Rather Graphic Text Description 
 
Needless to say, if you are running most boards, this form of file 
description is totally useless. 
 
Overall impressions:  For the end user, a totally useless interface and 
repetition of images found elsewhere make this a poor buy.  For the 
sysop, the repetition of images and the very poor file description 
format makes this one a pain and a half to --- TBBS v2.1/NM
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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 6419
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 10/03/93  3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM REVIEW: WILD WOMEN               Refer: NONE
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The Following is a CD-ROM "review."  The opinions expressed belong 
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]]]     TITLE: Wild Women 
]]]      SIZE: 602 Megs 
]]]     FILES: 2836 
]]] PUBLISHER: Digital Concepts 
]]]  CATEGORY: Adult / BBS Ready 
]]]     DATED: 07-16-93 
 
Wild Women is something that I am kind of ambivilant on.  When I look 
at the disc itself, it strongly resembles the "look and feel" of the 
Florida Lions Den products on the exterior artwork.  Of course, this 
is not the first time that someone has "borrowed" the look and feel 
of another's artwork... <grin!> 
 
Getting beyond the rather "familiar" artwork, I got into the disc.... 
 
The BBS readyness of the disc is supplied in two forms: each directory 
has a FILES.BBS listing in it (in PCBoard Format), and all the file 
listings are in the /FILELIST subdirectory as well.  You will also find 
a ZIP file of the file listings in DBF format.  The DBF listings are a 
nice touch, and it's showing up on more and more CD-ROM's these days, 
offering the enterprising SysOp a chance to make the listings look the 
way they need them.  One annoying thing about the DBF listings was that 
they provided the file categories as separate DBF files, rather than 
having one large one with a ID field.  I personally prefer the ID field 
variant, myself. 
 
The images are obviously BBS scans originally.  I didn't see any images 
that I recalled in a quick once over, but I did recognize all the 
"major player" scanners logos.  As is to be expected in a product of 
this nature, some of the scans were excellent, some were... somewhat 
less than excellent. 
 
I found the user interface to be a bit underwhelming, as I usually do. 
The menu system was a shareware product from Pinnace Systems, and it 
worked well... but when it came to actually viewing the images with 
the menu, I ended up with a blank screen.  This happens in about 1/2 
of the discs that I look at. 
 
Looking over some of the legal textfiles in the disc, I had a few 
laughs... for example, the statement that "all of the models shown on 
this CD-Rom are of legal age to pose for these pictures, and that by 
posing for such pictures it is understood that they do not necessarily 
indulge in the acts shown or even practice any of the various sexual 
activities."  Pfft!  Lets face it, this is a collection of BBS scans... 
how is the publisher going to know all of this?  <Grin!> 
 
Another thing that I find amusing is the fact that the publisher is 
stating that the "verboten" images, such as Playboy and Compuserve, 
are not in evidence, but again, we are dealing with BBS scans here, 
with no real "back trail" to follow to insure compliance with this. 
Take this "warrantee" at your own risk. 
 
Overall, I find this a decent enough disc, with the kind of quality 
that one would expect in a BBS Scan Stills collection.  It is neither 
better or worse than any other of it's class.  The file listings make 
it easier to use online than some competing products, I'll give it that. 
 
Overall, I would give this a thumbs up... a few months ago.  It's a fine 
disc, but some BBS SysOps are getting away from traditional BBS scans 
for their online images, due to legal fears.  This one, unlike discs lik 
Digital Dreams or Amateur Models, don't have any real assurance that 
the images are NOT going to cause problems.  Therefor, it's a kind of 
gray zone that we are dealing with here. 
 
If you don't mind living in the "Gray Zone", and want a decent quality 
selection of BBS Scans, then Wild Women will probably sa--- TBBS v2.1/NM
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6420
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/04/93 12:03a
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           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
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           |        Title:  PIER 3         |  |   Price:  $39   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

                             >>> IT'S HERE! <<<

     The wait is over!  Night Owl's closest rival in the shareware CD
     industry has just released their latest disc:  The Pier Shareware 3.
     Since the release of Pier 1 and 2, there has been a growing
     consensus in the CD-ROM industry that Pier CD's simply have no
     equal when it comes to recent files, accurate BBS listings, and
     great user interfaces.  To put it simply folks, if you are looking
     for the absolute BEST shareware CD for your personal or BBS use,
     Pier 3 is the CD you need.  You will not find a better organized,
     more current shareware CD on the world market, at ANY PRICE!

     * 628mb total
     * Separate <ASP> directory.
     * 100% files dated 1993 S.D.C. (Smart Date Checking utilized)
     * Completely re-written Graphic User Interface for EZ file management,
       which is 300% faster than previous versions!
     * All files have been scanned for viruses with the latest McAfee SCAN.
     * GAP, PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat!, Remote Access FILES.BBS Support.
     * Less then 1% duplication compared to The Pier Shareware 1 & 2.
     * Most current files on the market.  Over 70% dated AFTER 6/93!

                        - DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE -

     File stats for Pier 3:

     92  File   %    Apx 'K'    %        93  File   %    Apx 'K'    %
     ==  ==== =====  ======== =====      ==  ==== =====  ======== =====

      1     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       1     5  0.1%     1,708  0.3%
      2     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       2     6  0.1%     1,066  0.2%
      3     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       3    47  1.0%     5,508  0.9%
      4     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       4   501 11.0%    70,354 11.2%
      5     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       5   693 15.2%    94,210 15.0%
      6     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       6 1,244 27.4%   164,183 26.1%
      7     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       7 1,054 23.2%   156,138 24.8%
      8     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       8   572 12.6%    79,892 12.7%
      9     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       9   421  9.3%    55,188  8.8%
     10     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      10     0  0.0%         0  0.0%
     11     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      11     0  0.0%         0  0.0%
     12     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      12     0  0.0%         0  0.0%
         ---- -----  -------- -----          ---- -----  -------- -----
            0  0.0%         0  0.0%         4,543 99.9%   628,247 99.8%
         ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== =====

That's right - 72% dated newer than 6/93, and 98.4% dated newer than 4/93!

   2-CD SET:  Pier 2 and 3...................(less than 1% dupes!)....$59
   3-CD SET:  Pier 1, 2, and 3...............(less than 1% dupes!)....$75

                 >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<
                 >>>     DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE!     <<<

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

---
 * SLMR 2.1a * Tagline thievery . . . On the next Geraldo!

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 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........49.00
 5-Star Premium Windows........27.00    Middle East Diary.............35.00
 7th Guest.....................39.00    MIDI Music Shop...............26.50
 9000 Sounds (New!)............25.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...25.00    Monarch Notes.................57.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Money, Money, Money!..........28.00
 American Business Phonebk 91..17.00    Monster Media 93..............33.00
 American Business Phonebk 92..19.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 American Business Phonebk 93..25.00    Mother of All Clipart.........23.50
 Aminet Amiga (New!)...........15.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....24.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......23.00    National Geographic Mammals...25.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....25.50    National Parks................24.50
 Arizona Images (New!).........25.00    Night Owl 4.1.................20.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
 Audubon's Birds...............23.00    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Battle Chess..................25.00    Night Owl 8.0.................24.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 9.0.................25.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 10.0 (In Stock!)....35.00
 Beyond the Wall of Stars......24.50    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl Games (New!)........29.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    Night Owl Graphics (New!).....29.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    North American Fax Book.......36.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....13.00    Original Shareware............10.00
 Business Master...............20.00    OS/2Box (Pre-orders)..........29.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    Our Solar System..............13.00
 California Collection.........17.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....27.00
 Canadian Shareware (New!).....22.00    PC-SIG 12.....................24.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    PC-SIG 13 (Pre-orders)........33.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC Gameroom...................27.00
 CD Powerbox 1.01..............15.00    PC Karaoke w/ Microphone......68.00
 CD Winbox 1.01................25.00    Pentomino.....................32.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Phoenix 3.0 ($6 w/ any order).10.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phoenix 4.0 (New!)............19.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phonedisc USA (New!)..........69.00
 Clipart Galore................28.00    Pier 2........................29.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 3 (In Stock!)............39.00
 Clipart Heaven................25.00    Pier 2/3 Pak..................59.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00    Pinacotheca Multimedia........24.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    Pixel Garden..................34.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Composer Quest................34.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency....95.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....15.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....66.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......77.00
 Computer Reference Library....13.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Conan the Cimmerian......--- TBBS v2.1/NM
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 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50    Project Gutenberg (New!)......22.00
 Cookbook Heaven...............23.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak.......... 99.00
 Cybergenic Ranger (New!)......27.00    ProPhone 1993 Business........29.00
 Dagger of Amon Ra.............36.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Q&A 4.0.......................35.00
 Desktop Bookshop..............27.50    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Reader's Library..............28.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Reel Clips (New!).............35.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............33.00    Reference Library.............27.50
 Dinosaurs!....................34.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...39.00
 Dr. Games (New!)..............20.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
 Dr. Music (New!)..............20.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
 Dr. Shareware (New!)..........20.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
 Dr. Windows (New!)............20.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 DTPro.........................28.50    Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......54.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Electronic Cookbook (New!)....33.00    Shareware Online 1............25.00
 Electronic Home Library.......29.00    Shareware Online 2 (New!).....29.00
 Empire Clipart................19.50    Shareware Overload............13.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Shareware Studio 1............19.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.00    Shareware Studio 2............23.00
 European Monarchs.............35.00    Shareware Studio 3 (New!).....25.00
 Family Doctor.................26.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......26.50    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.00
 Firearms Reference (New!).....30.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...55.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...55.00
 Font Master 2.................28.00    Sights & Sounds...............25.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Game Arena (New!).............13.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Game Master...................20.00    So Much Shareware 2...........25.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....28.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Software Vault 1..............22.00
 Gameware Collection...........24.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....24.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Software Vault Gold (New!)....25.00
 Gardening (New!)..............13.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..19.00
 GIF's Galore (G-Rated)........16.50    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Giga Games (New!).............25.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Global Explorer...............93.00    Soundware Collection..........27.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    SoundWAV......................25.00
 Grammy Awards.................36.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Space Quest IV................24.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........29.50
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...23.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Guinness Disc of Records --- TBBS v2.1/NM
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 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    Straight from Heaven (New!)...25.50
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Street Atlas USA v1...........86.00
 Hamware 1993..................24.00    Street Atlas USA v2 (New!)....95.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    STW Illustrated Encyclopedia..34.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    STW Multimedia Encyclopedia...45.00
 House of Games................21.00    STW MPC Encyclopedia..........47.50
 Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00    Super CD 1....................19.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....10.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Super Games For Windows.......10.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Talking Jungle Safari.........35.50
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Talking Schoolhouse...........35.50
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....39.00    Technotools...................13.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........45.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..24.00
 Jets & Props..................28.50    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    Timetable of Business/Politic.26.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 King's Quest V................24.00    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 King's Quest VI (New!)........44.00    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    Total Baseball................27.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........22.00    Trump Castle..................28.00
 Lan Master (New!).............27.00    U.S./World Atlas 3.0..........23.00
 Languages of the World........45.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Learning Heaven (New!)........25.50    U.S. History..................29.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Libris Britannia..............42.00    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 Loom..........................19.00    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...39.00    VGA Spectrum 1................14.00
 Mac Shareware (New!)..........24.00    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........34.00    Visions of Saturn.............23.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Window Master.................20.00
 Majestic Places...............38.50    Windoware.....................13.00
 Manhole.......................35.50    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Mantis........................24.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World Atlas MPC...............26.50
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............27.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mega Clipart..................27.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf 1992 MPC..47.00    World Traveler................13.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..58.00    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    World Vision 3-Pak............43.00
 Microsoft Golf MPC (New!).....58.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00
 Microsoft Musical Instruments.57.00    X11R5/GNU.....................24.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457---- TBBS v2.1/NM
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........49.00
 20th Century Video Almanac....32.00    Middle East Diary.............35.00
 5-Star Premium Windows........27.00    MIDI Music Shop...............26.50
 7th Guest.....................39.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50
 9-Digit Zip Code Guide (New!).32.00    Monarch Notes.................57.00
 9000 Sounds (New!)............25.00    Money, Money, Money!..........28.00
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...25.00    Monster Media 93 vol 1........29.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Monster Media 93 vol 2 (New!).33.00
 American Business Phonebk 91..17.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 American Business Phonebk 92..19.00    Mother of All Clipart.........23.50
 American Business Phonebk 93..25.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Aminet Amiga (New!)...........15.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....24.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......23.00    National Geographic Mammals...25.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....25.50    National Parks................24.50
 Arizona Images (New!).........25.00    Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Audubon's Birds...............23.00    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    Night Owl 8.0.................24.00
 Battle Chess..................25.00    Night Owl 9.0.................25.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 10.0 (In Stock!)....29.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 9/10 2-Pak..........49.00
 Beyond the Wall of Stars......24.50    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl Games (New!)........29.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    Night Owl Graphics (New!).....29.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    North American Fax Book.......36.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....13.00    Original Shareware............10.00
 Business Master...............20.00    OS/2Box (Pre-orders)..........29.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    Our Solar System..............13.00
 California Collection.........17.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....27.00
 Canadian Shareware (New!).....22.00    PC-SIG 12.....................24.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    PC-SIG 13 (Pre-orders)........33.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC Gameroom...................27.00
 CD Powerbox 1.01..............15.00    PC Karaoke w/ Microphone......68.00
 CD Winbox 1.01................25.00    Pentomino.....................32.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Phoenix 3.0 ($6 w/ any order).10.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phoenix 4.0 (New!)............19.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phonedisc USA (New!)..........69.00
 Clipart Galore................28.00    Pier 2........................24.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 3 (In Stock!)............39.00
 Clipart Heaven................25.00    Pier 2/3 Pak..................59.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00    Pinacotheca Multimedia........24.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    Pixel Garden..................34.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Composer Quest................34.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency....95.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....15.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....66.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......75.00
 Computer Reference Librar--- TBBS v2.1/NM
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 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50    Project Gutenberg (New!)......22.00
 Cookbook Heaven...............23.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak.......... 99.00
 Cybergenic Ranger (New!)......27.00    ProPhone 1993 Business........29.00
 Dagger of Amon Ra.............36.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Day of the Tentacle (New!)....44.50    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Publisher's Powerhouse (New!).33.00
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Q&A 4.0.......................35.00
 Desktop Bookshop..............27.50    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Reader's Library..............28.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Reel Clips (New!).............35.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............33.00    Reference Library.............27.50
 Dinosaurs!....................34.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...39.00
 Dr. Games (New!)..............20.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
 Dr. Music (New!)..............20.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
 Dr. Shareware (New!)..........20.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
 Dr. Windows (New!)............20.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 DTPro.........................28.50    Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......54.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..42.00
 Electronic Cookbook (New!)....33.00    Shareware Online 1............25.00
 Electronic Home Library.......29.00    Shareware Online 2 (New!).....29.00
 Empire Clipart................19.50    Shareware Overload............13.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Shareware Studio 1............19.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.00    Shareware Studio 2............23.00
 European Monarchs.............35.00    Shareware Studio 3 (New!).....25.00
 Family Doctor.................26.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......26.50    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.00
 Firearms Reference (New!).....30.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...55.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...55.00
 Font Master 2.................28.00    Sights & Sounds...............25.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Game Arena (New!).............13.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Game Master...................20.00    So Much Shareware 2...........25.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....28.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Software Vault 1..............22.00
 Gameware Collection...........24.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....24.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Software Vault Gold (New!)....25.00
 Gardening (New!)..............13.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..19.00
 GIF's Galore (G-Rated)........16.50    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Giga Games (New!).............25.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Global Explorer...............93.00    Soundware Collection..........27.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    SoundWAV......................25.00
 Grammy Awards.................36.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Space Quest IV................24.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........29.50
 Guinness Disc of Records --- TBBS v2.1/NM
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                                   3 of 3
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    Straight from Heaven (New!)...25.50
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Street Atlas USA v1...........86.00
 Hamware 1993..................24.00    Street Atlas USA v2 (New!)....95.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    STW Illustrated Encyclopedia..34.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    STW Multimedia Encyclopedia...44.00
 House of Games................21.00    STW MPC Encyclopedia..........45.50
 Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00    Super CD 1....................19.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....10.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Super Games For Windows.......10.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Talking Jungle Safari.........35.50
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Talking Schoolhouse...........35.50
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....39.00    Technotools...................13.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........45.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..24.00
 Jets & Props..................28.50    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Just Grandma & Me.............39.00    Timetable of Business/Politic.26.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 King's Quest V................24.00    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 King's Quest VI (New!)........44.00    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    Total Baseball................27.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........22.00    Trump Castle..................28.00
 La Colleccion (Spanish S/W)...29.00    U.S./World Atlas 3.0..........23.00
 Lan Master (New!).............27.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
 Languages of the World........45.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 Learning Heaven (New!)........25.50    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 Libris Britannia..............42.00    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 Loom..........................19.00    USA Today: The 90's (New!)....36.00
 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...39.00    VGA Spectrum 1................14.00
 Mac Shareware (New!)..........24.00    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........34.00    Visions of Saturn.............23.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Mad Dog McCree (New!).........49.00    Wildcat Gold..................27.50
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Window Master.................20.00
 Majestic Places...............38.50    Windoware.....................13.00
 Manhole.......................34.50    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Mantis........................24.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World Atlas MPC...............26.50
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............27.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mega Clipart..................27.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf 1992 MPC..47.00    World Traveler................13.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..58.00    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    World Vision 3-Pak............39.00
 Microsoft Golf MPC (New!).....58.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00
 Microsoft Musical Instruments.57.00    X11R5/GNU.....................24.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or--- TBBS v2.1/NM
 * Origin: The News Times - Danbury, Ct (203) 792-NEWS (1:141/920)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6427
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/15/93  8:56p
Subj: PIER 3 NOW SHIPPING                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
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           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |        Title:  PIER 3         |  |   Price:  $39   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

                             >>> IT'S HERE! <<<

     The wait is over!  Night Owl's closest rival in the shareware CD
     industry has just released their latest disc:  The Pier Shareware 3.
     Since the release of Pier 1 and 2, there has been a growing
     consensus in the CD-ROM industry that Pier CD's simply have no
     equal when it comes to recent files, accurate BBS listings, and
     great user interfaces.  To put it simply folks, if you are looking
     for the absolute BEST shareware CD for your personal or BBS use,
     Pier 3 is the CD you need.  You will not find a better organized,
     more current shareware CD on the world market, at ANY PRICE!

     * 628mb total
     * Separate <ASP> directory.
     * 100% files dated 1993 S.D.C. (Smart Date Checking utilized)
     * Completely re-written Graphic User Interface for EZ file management,
       which is 300% faster than previous versions!
     * All files have been scanned for viruses with the latest McAfee SCAN.
     * GAP, PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat!, Remote Access FILES.BBS Support.
     * Less then 1% duplication compared to The Pier Shareware 1 & 2.
     * Most current files on the market.  Over 70% dated AFTER 6/93!

                        - DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE -

     File stats for Pier 3:

     92  File   %    Apx 'K'    %        93  File   %    Apx 'K'    %
     ==  ==== =====  ======== =====      ==  ==== =====  ======== =====

      1     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       1     5  0.1%     1,708  0.3%
      2     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       2     6  0.1%     1,066  0.2%
      3     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       3    47  1.0%     5,508  0.9%
      4     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       4   501 11.0%    70,354 11.2%
      5     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       5   693 15.2%    94,210 15.0%
      6     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       6 1,244 27.4%   164,183 26.1%
      7     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       7 1,054 23.2%   156,138 24.8%
      8     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       8   572 12.6%    79,892 12.7%
      9     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       9   421  9.3%    55,188  8.8%
     10     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      10     0  0.0%         0  0.0%
     11     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      11     0  0.0%         0  0.0%
     12     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      12     0  0.0%         0  0.0%
         ---- -----  -------- -----          ---- -----  -------- -----
            0  0.0%         0  0.0%         4,543 99.9%   628,247 99.8%
         ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== =====

That's right - 72% dated newer than 6/93, and 98.4% dated newer than 4/93!

   2-CD SET:  Pier 2 and 3...................(less than 1% dupes!)....$59
   3-CD SET:  Pier 1, 2, and 3...............(less than 1% dupes!)....$75

                 >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<
                 >>>     DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE!     <<<

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: JEFF HUBERT                            Number: 6428
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/18/93  8:49p
Subj: cd-rom drive for sale!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a high-quality mitsumi cd-rom dirve for sale for $165 or best offer. It
has a 350ms access time and is less than a month old. I have all the software,
manuals, 16-bit card adaptor, and everything else that came with the drive.
Everything in brand new condition! please call (410) 442-2726 if you are
interested. It is multisession photo-cd compatible also!
ONLY $165 or best offer!

--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
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From: ANDREW MURPHY                          Number: 6429
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/19/93 10:01a
Subj: cd list 1 of 5                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Fred Fish On-Line 1.5...700+ 360k discs of Amiga shareware...**..49.9

  For what it's worth, the amiga never had 360k disks.  They are 880k
each.  Commodore didn't go with 5.25 disks or 640k memory limitations.


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From: PETE CRESSWELL                         Number: 6430
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/18/93  8:12p
Subj: TELEPHONE DIRECTORY                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DC>    We have the latest Mid-Year Prophone for $95.  It contains 6
 DC> residential and 1 business disc for names and numbers all over the US.
 DC> Give us a call at 800-547-7817 to order.

Do you know of a U.S. directory set whose files are it .DBF format
so I could mount it on a TBBS bulletin board and allow access via
a homegrown xBase door?

Also, does "Mid-Year" imply that directory listings are current as
of that time, or is it just date of publication for the disks?
 
... Food-For-Thought  Paoli, PA  215/251-9387
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 6431
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 10/18/93 10:48a
Subj: CD Player                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PR> Did you get those from a guy in Hawaii? If not there is a
PR> guy there selling four. I have seen a lot of them lately on
PR> the echo, all I do is just keep up with who is selling what.
PR> If I hear any thing will let you know.
 
No, I have seen them in GA and FL.  I bought my four from GA.  I really need
four more, so your help is much appreciated.
--- FMail 0.96â
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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 6432
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/18/93 12:11p
Subj: Hot Pix                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to Lee Noga, Vikki Clayton said:
VC> > Beastiality, skat(defecation), puke shots, water sports
VC> > etc--It represents a total disregard for federal law--No
VC> > just samplings of the hardcore disciplines, but directories
VC> > of these type of things.
 
Are you referring to Ecstasy Hot Pic's Vol. I?  The one originated and owned
by NixPix Windy City Adult Club?  Better yet is there somewhere a guideline
that could be used to accept/reject adult material when one is considering
placing material on a BBS for distribution?  Thanks in advance for your help.
--- FMail 0.96â
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6433
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 10/19/93 12:51a
Subj: A PUBLIC APPEAL                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF>Policy specifically points out that NON-ROUTED Net Mail for commercial
purpos
BF>is fine, and cited at least one example where that was given as the cure for
BF>"bombing problem".

Yes, but I never mentioned "non-routed" netmail in my message.  As stated,
I was referring to "routed" netmail only.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6434
  To: SERGIO MASCARENHAS                       Date: 10/19/93 12:51a
Subj: My Order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SM>MS>I did indeed, Sergio!  Thanks very much, but I didn't find you in my
SM>  >customer database!  Looked high and low for all my customers in Brazil
SM>  >and couldn't come up with anything.  Please either fax or mail me your
SM>  >shipping address and card number so I can process the order for you.

SM>Ok! No problem! I'll send a fax to you.

SM>What's your netmail address? I sent a order to you in 1:3407/101
SM>(crashmail) about 3 weeks ago.

I did finally receive your message Sergio, and thanks for the order.
OS/2Box should begin shipping around Oct. 25th, so look for your order
soon afterwards.

Thanks again,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6435
  To: MARK ELSON                               Date: 10/19/93 12:51a
Subj: CDs                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ME>Have a couple of questions for you.....
ME>when will the OS/2 Box CD be out??

We should begin shipping around Oct. 25th.

ME>and is the Mac Shareware disk BBS ready???

No....meant for Apple system drives only.

ME>is the new Busty Babes out yet??

Just started shipping from what I understand.  Ours are en route and
should be here soon!  Price is $29.

ME>what kind of deal can I get if I buy all 3 of the above...

How about $25 each in a package deal?  Give a shout if interested....

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6436
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/19/93 12:51a
Subj: CD DUPE CHART II                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

------------------------------------------------------------------------
          SHAREWARE CD DUPE CHART II from Starvector Software
------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.3
   (Available on Pier 3, or from the Starvector BBS at 509-457-0206)

SVG = SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD   SV2 = SOFTWARE VAULT 2      PR2 = PIER 2
SS2 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 2    SS3 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 3    PR3 = PIER 3
SO2 = SHAREWARE ONLINE 2    N09 = NIGHT OWL 9           N10 = NIGHT OWL 10

             % OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
            ---------------------------------------------------
 >>   Note:  Diagonal reflects % of INTERNAL dupes within a given CD.  <<

            PR2   PR3   N09   N10   SS2   SS3   SO2   SV2   SVG
          +-----------------------------------------------------+
       PR2| .00%  .55% 19.7% 1.72%  .02% 7.30% 20.5% 16.5% 4.59%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       PR3| .55%  .00% 10.2% 36.0%  .00% 8.14% 8.94% 2.20% 24.9%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       NO9|19.7% 10.2%  .12%  .08% 1.24%  .10% 36.8% 19.5% 25.8%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       N10|1.72% 36.0%  .08%  .00%  .31%  .00% 2.38% 1.31% 20.8%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SS2| .02%  .00% 1.24%  .31%  .01%  .12%  .00% 1.58% 2.29%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SS3|7.30% 8.14%  .10%  .00%  .12%  .02% 13.4%  .00% 10.2%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SO2|20.5% 8.94% 36.8% 2.38%  .00% 13.4%  .30% 25.4% 13.9%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SV2|16.5% 2.20% 19.5% 1.31% 1.58%  .00% 25.4%  .01% 1.69%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SVG|4.59% 24.9% 25.8% 20.8% 2.29% 10.2% 13.9% 1.69%  .00%|
          +-----------------------------------------------------+

        PRICES
        ------
        PIER 2..............24.00      PIER 3..............39.00
        NIGHT OWL 9.........25.00      NIGHT OWL 10........29.00
        SHAREWARE STUDIO 2..23.00      SHAREWARE STUDIO 3..25.00
        SOFTWARE VAULT 2....24.00      SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD.25.00
        SHAREWARE ONLINE 2..29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6437
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/19/93 12:51a
Subj: STREET ATLAS 2.0: $95                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |  Title:  STREET ATLAS v 2.0   |  |   Price:  $95   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

     The best-selling computer mapping package has just been updated!
     You probably know about the proven quality of Street Atlas by now,
     but let's face it - version 1 is two years old!  In that time, lots
     of changes have taken place, and you need version 2 for the absolute
     highest level of mapping accuracy!

     Street Atlas version 2 is a complete street map of the entire
     country on a single CD-ROM!  You can zoom in on every city, town, or
     rural area in the country - right down to the smallest backroads.
     The database gives you instant access to more than 12 million street
     segments and more than 1 million lakes, ponds, rivers, parks, rail-
     roads, and more!

     * Search by ZIPcode, place name, or phone number.
     * Print maps at a variety of different scales, instantly!
     * Zoom in and out with ease.
     * Search block ranges in metropolitan areas.
     * Customize the overview map.
     * Seamless, full-color maps are easy to read.
     * New, faster map generation system produces maps extremely fast!
     * Thousand of new streets that didn't exist two years ago.
     * Trip planning functions.
     * Customizable user interface.

     Requirements: 386 CPU or higher, 2MB RAM, 3MB hard drive space,
                   CD-ROM drive, VGA graphics, mouse, Windows 3.1,
                   DOS 4.01+

                >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6438
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/19/93 12:51a
Subj: CD-ROM SALE!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #4:  CD-ROM LIQUIDATION!   |
         |________________________________________________________|

            All sales are final - Sale limited to stock on hand!

Mega Clipart........$24   Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15   Wrath of the Demon..$27
World Vision 3-Pak..$39   Roger Ebert Movies..$37   Bookshelf 1992......$39
Mac Shareware.......$20   Spirit of Excalibur.$27   Mac M/M Space.......$35
Sporting News.......$22   Conan the Cimmerian.$27   Game Pack 2.........$22
Original S/W 1993...$10   Phoenix 4.0.........$18   Jedi Collection.....$39
So Much Shareware...$19   Clipart Galore......$25   Reel Clips..........$29
Windoware...........$10   Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$22   Ham Radio 3.0.......$10
Top 2000 Shareware..$18   Software Vault 1....$17   Super Programmer....$12
California Collct'n.$15   Hobbes OS/2 1992....$13   Sights & Sounds.....$21
K-Tracks Sound F/X..$17   Sounds for Windows..$15   Canadian Shareware..$19

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: BRYAN NYLIN                            Number: 6439
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 10/18/93  9:31p
Subj: Business Cd's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for a recent CD release that contains address and phone
numbers of businesses, by zip code.  If any of the CD's you carry has
this, please mail your catalog to:
 
    Bryan Nylin
    1312 S. 263rd St.
    Kent, WA  98032
 
Thanks!
 
 * SLMR 2.1a * Death is a nonmaskable interrupt.

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From: GEOFF REED                             Number: 6440
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 10/17/93  8:52p
Subj: A Public Appeal                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

<<***** On 10-14-93, Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Mike Shannon: *****>>
BF>It's not part of Policy, but rather appears to be the efforts of a few
BF>*Cs
BF>only.
BF> On the other hand, it's not specifically addressed by Policy at all....
BF> 
BF>>I don't know the status of other dealers in this conference
BF> 
BF>I'm the Sysop of Star Fleet Battles (see Origin line).
BF> 
 
  unless they've changed the policy, there's no policy AGAINST conducting
commercial business in ECHOMAIL.  the problem here I see, is that there are
people confusing the terms Netmail and Echomail, there is a big difference. 
Netmail is actual mail messages, and is a Faux-Pas to send routed netmail on
someone else's dime, while Echomail is the actual Fido "Echoes" like
tech_help, CDROM, etc.  now, if they've changed policy since the last time I
read the Fidonet policy document, please let me know.  but what it sounds
like to me is sour grapes on someone's part...
 
BF>>but for the sake of the
BF>>conference and the echo, let's lay off the Netmail, at least for the
BF>purposes
BF>>of conducting business.
BF> 
BF>Policy specifically points out that NON-ROUTED Net Mail for commercial
BF>purposes
BF>is fine, and cited at least one example where that was given as the cure
BF>for a
BF>"bombing problem".
BF> 
BBF> 
BF>Given that at least one of the Backbone sites is a commercial entity, I
BF>doubt
BF>that this will happen. It IS a good idea to keep the *C structure "calm
BF>and
BF>collected" as much as possible, though....
  
 
 
                      
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From: GEOFF REED                             Number: 6441
  To: BOB CENTERBAR                            Date: 10/17/93  9:00p
Subj: Adult Cds Wanted For Bbs                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

<<***** On 10-15-93, Bob Centerbar wrote to Joe Reynolds: *****>>
BC> On 10-10-93 JOE REYNOLDS wrote to ALL... 
BC> 
BC> JR> I am interested in purchasing some adult cds to run with my BBS.
BC>Does 
BC> JR> anyone know of any titles and where I can get them. 
BC> JR>  
BC>I have a used copy of Giffy Gold that I'll sell for $30.00 obo. This 
BC>CD is BBS approved, for the lack of a better word, as all scans are 
BC>original Giffy Enterprises scans of amateur models.  The best way I 
BC>can describe the scan is there in the "girl next door" type format. 
BC> 
BC>If your interest reply here or netmail. 
BC> 
BC>Later...Bob 
BC> 
BC> 
BC>... OFFLINE 1.50  "I can't be wrong; my modem is error-correcting." 
BC>* LAKOTA v1.1
BC> 
BC>--- SFScan v2.00
BC> * Origin: Bob's Mess (817) 699-7655 (1:395/33.0)
BC> 
BC>                                                                         
BC>
  Bob, if he's not interested in that CD, I am :)  i'm planning to put my
CD-Rom drive onto my bbs soon.  I can be reached at (206) 661-3662 if I'm
not here, leave a message on the machine and I'll call ya back ASAP :)
 
 
                                       
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From: PHILLIP DAMPIER                        Number: 6442
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 10/19/93  9:45a
Subj: ron dwight                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >           An outright LIE!  You have settled NOTHING.  What
 > you have done is offer a list of half-baked excuses as to
 > why YOU fouled up and why I had to pay unexpected
 > additional costs.  This is NOT settlement.

Etc., etc., etc., ad nauseum.

 >           I am not a gentleman, I am the single most
 > important person you will EVER meet in your entire life.

A lot of Germans probably agree with you, but for all the wrong reasons.

Take it to netmail and spare us.

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From: SCOTT BRIGADE                          Number: 6443
  To: LEWIS BULLARD                            Date: 10/19/93  3:30p
Subj: SALE OR TRADE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Magnavox CDD 461 CDrom. Light use, external, plays audio cds without
>software, slow but good for bbs. Will include 5 cd's of shareware $250
 
Im interested but need more information.  I dont know any of the specs,
please go into more detail, and also please list the names and dates of
the shareware cd's....
 
                                        Scott

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From: PETE CRESSWELL                         Number: 6444
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/19/93  8:01p
Subj: CD LIST 1 OF 5                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ä Area: CDROM_SALE ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
  Msg#: 13335                                        Date: 10-17-93  23:11
  From: Doug Carpenter                               Read: Yes    Replied: No
    To: All                                          Mark:
  Subj: CD LIST 1 OF 5
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
@MSGID: 1:362/119.0 2cc20966 AB20 Amiga CD-Rom...300+mb, 3000+ Amiga shareware
files..........10.00 America's Premier 1993
Shareware...Win,Games,fonts,clipart,gifs..16.95 Aminet Amiga...Near 600 meg
from Aminet Interet Archives.....**..14.50 AMSoft (Ham)...Thousands of ham
shareware/ham related programs...26.95 A.S.P...Best of ASP Association Authors
Shareware................21.95 Big Sky...Hundreds of shareware programs,fast
bbs install....**..26.00 C Users Group Library...User supported source
code-dos,unix,cpm..27.95 CD Powerbox...6,858 files-50 categories-all '91-'92
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Doug,  above is what your postings look like on my BlueWave reader.

Strangely enough, when I bring my my editor (SPFPC) everything
straightens out and lines up readably.

Considering the number of BLueWave people out there and the possibility
they might be seeing the same glurge, maybe you want to check up on
your message's structure...dunno enough myself to make an intelligent
guess as to the problem.
 
... Food-For-Thought  Paoli, PA  215/251-9387
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From: ADRIAN SALAS                           Number: 6445
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/18/93  6:42p
Subj: CD-ROM SALE           1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

      ***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************

                            NIGHT OWL 10

                               39.00

                  650+ Megabytes of Fully BBS Ready files


   ******************* UPDATED PRICE LIST ***********************
                        October 15, 1993

SUPER CD 1................ 22.00    SUPER CD 2............... 29.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 2....... 30.00    SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3...... 35.00
NIGHTOWL 9................ 32.00    NIGHTOWL 8............... 29.00
SOUNDWAV.................. 26.95    SHAREWARE EXTRAVAGANZA... 55.00
PC-S1G 12................. 41.50    SOFTWARE VAULT........... 28.00
DESKTOP PUBLISHERS DREAM.. 39.50    TIME DESERT STORM........ 29.95
PC MEDIC.................. 32.50    CICA WINDOWS............. 29.00
VGA SPECTRUM v2........... 19.00    CD-CADDYS................ 4.50
DR. WINODOWS...............22.00    DR. GAMES................ 22.00
DR. MUSIC................. 22.00    DR. SHAREWARE............ 22.00
Americas Premire.......... 18.75    Gigabyte Gold............ 36.50
Phoenix Version 3.0....... 19.50    Shareware Avalnche....... 39.00
Sharware Galore........... 37.50    Sharware Overloard....... 37.50
Shareware Tiger........... 39.00    World Vision............. 79.00
Window Master............. 39.00    Software Vault GOLD...... 35.00

************************** ADULT TITLES ***************************
Note: You must be 21 or over to purchase these titles
ECTASY HOT PICS........... 35.00    BUSTY BABES.............. 35.00
ASIAN LADIES.............. 35.00    PC PIX 3................. 35.00
PORKWARE 2................ 35.00    HOT HUNKS................ 35.00
LUCIOUS LADIES............ 35.00    EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2...... 35.00
Beach Babes............... 39.00    Animation Fantasies 1.... 39.00
Animation Fantasies 2..... 39.00    Gay/Bi/Lesbians.......... 39.00
Giffy Girls Gold.......... 39.00    Hot Pix 4................ 39.00
Hot Pix 5................. 39.00    My Private Collection 1.. 29.00
My Private Collection 2... 39.00    PC PIX 1................. 39.00
PC PIX 2.................. 39.00    PC PIX 3................. 39.00
Porkware 1................ 39.00    Private Pictures......... 36.00
Stareware................. 34.00    Storm 1 ................. 28.00
Storm 2................... 39.00    Storm 3.................. 41.00
Wicked.................... 69.00
************************ CLIPART **********************************

Clip Art Galore........... 25.00    Clip Art Goliath......... 25.00
Corel ArtShow............. 79.00    Font Fun House........... 39.00
Lovely Ladies 2........... 39.00    Media Clips Business..... 29.00
Media Clips Island........ 29.00    Media Clips Jets......... 29.00
Media Clips Majestic...... 29.00    Media Clisp Money........ 29.00
Media Clips Wild.......... 29.00    Media Clips World........ 29.00
Mediasource.............. 289.00    Mediasource 2........... 289.00
Mediasource Historical... 289.00    Mother Earth 2........... 29.00
Quick Artline............ 219.00    SoMuch Screenware........ 35.00
Electronic Library of Art  69.50

*********************** BUSINESS & REFERENCE **********************

Atlas of US Presidents.... 29.00    Atlas Pack............... 89.00
Berlitz Think & Talk......149.00    Bibles & Religion........ 24.50
CD-ROM Dierctory......... 109.00    Cinimania............... 295.00
Colosal Cookbook.......... 24.00    Complete Bookshop........ 24.00
Comptons Encylopedia..... 159.00    Corel Draw 4.0.......... 489.00
Dictionaires & Languages.. 24.50    Food Analyst............. 49.50
Food Anylst Plus......... 149.00    Ham Radio v3.0.......... 149.00
Information USA.......... 119.00    KGB-CIA World Fact Book.. 39.00
Corel Draw 3.0........... 149.00    Monarch Notes............ 79.00
MS Office for Windows.... 589.00    Multimedia Audobons Birds 39.00
Multimedias Audons mamals  29.00    Multimedia World Fact book39.50
Murmurs of Earth.......... 49.00    Our Solar System......... 24.00
ProPhone 1993 7 cd set... 179.00    Publish It............... 69.00
Sound Sensations.......... 24.50    Space Adventure.......... 36.00
Mamals National Geograpic. 39.00    Techno Tools............. 24.50
The Bible Library......... 24.50    The Books list........... 49.50
The Family Doctor......... 39.00    Too many Type Fonts...... 24.50
Total Baseball............ 59.00    US Atlas with Automap.... 39.00
Encarta.................. 295.00    World Atlus CD-ROM....... 29.00
World Vista............... 63.00    Elecrtonic Home Library.. 59.00
Time Table of History..... 38.00    Toolworks Reference Library31.90

Mavis Beacon Teaches typing v2.0 39.00
Sports Illistraded Almanac 49.00
Street Atlus USA WINDOWS 92.50
Multimedia Animals Encyclopedia 56.90
Library of the Future 2nd Edition 159.00
1992 Time Magazine Compact Almanac 69.00
The Electronic Library ofArt 89.00
Groiler New Multimedia Encyclopedia 295.00
Dinasours & Multimedia Encyclopedia 89.00
Vital Signs The good health resource 83.00
Comptons Interactive Encyclopedia for Windows 299.00

               ************* GAMES, ROLE PLAYING **********

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From: ADRIAN SALAS                           Number: 6446
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/18/93  6:42p
Subj: CD-ROM SALE           2/2               Refer: NONE
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Arthurs Teacher trouble 34.90 Bakers Dozen Game Pak for Windows 29.00
barney Bear Goes to Space 39.00 Battle Chess Enhanced 40.00
Conan 31.00 Deathstar Arcade Batlles 24.50 Future Wars 54.50 Guy Spy 39.00
Jones in the Fast Lane 29.00 Just Grandma and me 44.00 Kings Quest 5 39.00
Kings Quest 6 39.00 LOOM 29.00  Mixed Up Mother Goose 29.95
Murder Makes Strange Dead Fellows 45.00 Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe 29.00
Space Quest 4 29.95 Spaceship Warlock 79.95 Spirit Of Excaliber 79.00
Stellar 7 29.00
7th Gyest 59.00 The Advuentures of Willly Beamish 52.50 Chessmater 3000 29.00
Lost Treasures of Infocom 59.50 Lsot tresures of Infocom 2 44.95
The manhole 44.97 The Secret Of Momkey island 35.90 Ultima I-VI series 49,95
Where in the world is Carmen San Diego 29.00 Wing Commander plus Secret
Missions 1& 2 69.95 Wing Commander 2 69.00 Wrath of the Demon 37.50

        -------------------- end of list ---------------------------
*All in stock and ready to ship.

* Shipping is 5.00 up to 3 cds .50 each additional.
* CA Residents add 7.75% Sales Tax
* SEND check/money order in US funds payable to:

  ADRIAN SALAS
  2434 EAST 32ND STREET,
  NATIONAL CITY CA 91950-7710 USA
  QUESTIONS/ORDERS 619-479-8688 10:AM to 7:PM PST.
  Attn: SDRC
  Sorry NO Credit Cards (Yet).

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From: ROBERT KUMMER                          Number: 6447
  To: EVERYONE                                 Date: 10/18/93  3:15p
Subj: CD's to Sell or Trade                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  I have the following CD's I would like to sell or trade for other
CD's.
                       Creation date
      Title          (from chkcd util)
    
Shareware Explosion II -  11-06-92   None older than 11-1-92       $15
N.O. Daytime Express   -  11-08-92   Good general shareware        $15
N.O. Business CD       -  10-22-92   Business type shareware       $15
America's Premier      -  09-19-92   Good general shareware        $15
Black Box 4            -  08-18-92   Nice CD (from Europe)         $15
Phoenix 3              -  02-27-93   Good general shareware        $15
Wiz-Pak 6-Pak CD       -  08-18-92   170 programs ready to use     $10
MegaDemo               -  10-19-92   w/CD drive benchmark utils    $10
  
                     ADULT TITLES
   
Seedy Rom 2,3,4,5,6         $20 ea.
Seventh Heaven              $25
Storm III                   $20
After Dark              Best offer
XXX Extreme             Best offer
  
Also have a Unisys AP1307 wide carriage daisy wheel printer. Best offer
  
Things I'm interested in:
  
1x9 70ns Simms
Software Vault I
Software Vault Gold
Color Magic Clipart
Hackers Chronicle
Other CD's
  
Please reply here with offers. To speed things up, leave phone # so I
can contact you if I'm interested, or I can be reached at (517)631-5105
9am - 8pm EST. Thanks.
 
  Robert.

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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 6448
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/18/93  7:52a
Subj: HELP                                    Refer: NONE
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Can someone who has DR. MUSIC and 9000 SOUNDS please check and see how many 
.MID and .WRK files are on these CD-ROM's Thanks

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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 6449
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/19/93 12:24a
Subj: BUSTY BABES 1                           Refer: NONE
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INTERESTED IN BUYING CD - BUSTY BABES 1.  IF YOU HAVE ACOPY YOU WOULD LIKE TO
SELL LET ME KNOW. HOW MUCH?

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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 6450
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 10/19/93 10:41p
Subj: CDRoms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

New CDRoms for sale:

 Aminet June 1993                $13.00  Almost 600 megs of Amiga stuff,
                                         Thousands of GNU apps, C code,
                                         sound files, games...
 CICA Windows Aug. 1993          $13.00  640+ Megs of Windows stuff, utils
                                         games, drivers, icons, info, and
                                         tons of other stuff.
 Garbo May 1992                  $13.00  375+ Megs of MSDOS/MAC from the
                                         Garbo Archive at the University
                                         of Vassa, Finland.  Interesting.
 GIFs Galore 1st ed.             $13.00  610+ Megs of .gif files. Animals,
                                         people, fantasy, tv, movies, more.
                                         320x280 to 1024x768
 Giga Games Aug. 1993            $18.00  450+ Megs zipped, 1 GIG unzipped!
                                         Games for MSDOS/Windows. Graphics
                                         Arcade games!  Adventure games!
                                         1000+ D&D files!  Much more.
 Hobbes OS/2  June 1993          $13.00  640+ Megs of OS/2, bunches of
                                         must have utils for OS/2 2.x,tons
                                         of other stuff for 1.x to 2.x.
 Info-Mac                        $25.00  10,000 programs for the MAC,
                                         desktop accessories, games,
                                         graphics, sound, tech stuff.
 La Coleccion Agosto 1993        $20.00  Mas de 6.500 archivos shareware
                                         y de dominio publico clasificados
                                         en 55 secciones con descripciones
                                         en espanol.  Listo para utilizar
                                         en BBS. DOS/Windows/OS/2. 475 Megs.
 Libris Britanica Issue 2        $31.00  650 Megs of Shareware from
                                         England!  This import has tons
                                         of MSDOS stuff you probabley
                                         have not seen... (With 124 pg.
                                         listing of files and descriptions)
 Project Gutenberg  July 1993    $18.00  Tons of classic lit/history from
                                         the Project Gutenburg archive, all
                                         low ASCII text, ISO-9660, readable
                                         on almost anything!
 ShareWare Heaven 1993           $20.00  400+ Megs of MSDOS/Win, good
                                         general CD, samples wide range
                                         of programs/utils, hits the
                                         highlights.
 Simtel MSDOS May 1993           $13.00  630+ Megs MSDOS, over 9000
                                         programs, drivers, tech info,
                                         graphics & sound stuff.
 Source  March 1992              $20.00  600 Megs of C code for just
                                         about every application: from
                                         AI to usenet.
 Soundwave                       $24.00  450 Megs of unique sounds, pro
                                         recordings at 16 bits.  Sounds
                                         as good as audio CDs. 200 Megs
                                         of sound files at 8 bits.    
Eric Bravick
USF 3008
4202 E. Fowler Ave.
Tampa, FL. 33620-3008

(813) 985-9619 (Voice)
(813) 985-9723 (BBS)
FIDO Netmail 1:377/53.0
Internet: bravick@luna.cas.usf.edu


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From: BOB BOSS                               Number: 6451
  To: MICHAEL APPELBAUM                        Date: 10/19/93  9:16a
Subj: CD Multidisk Changer                    Refer: NONE
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Re: CD Multidisk Changer
 
> Anyone have any prices on Multidisk Changers?

Pioneer:

DMR-600 (bare) should go for between $770 and $820.

DMR-600X (bare QUADSpeed) can be had for between $1160 and $1300.

1522 controller goes for around $70-$75....


Later then?

Bob

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6452
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Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG 10/19/93                 Refer: NONE
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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6453
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/19/93  6:02a
Subj: CD-ROM SPECIALS 10/19/93                Refer: NONE
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X#&]%%+fN !  )19AI 



 THIS MONTH SPECIAL $2.00 OFF ANY CD PRICE !!!!!!
NO LIMIT -- MIX OR MATCH -- ORDER 10 OR MORE AND GET FREE
SHIPPING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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CD-ROM TITLE                             PRICE
------------------------------------------------------------
1001 UTILITIES...........................10.00
ABOUT COWS...............................30.00
ADVENTURES IN HEAVEN.....................15.00
ADVENTURES OF WILLY BEAMISH..............20.00
AIRCRAFT ENCYCLOPEDIA,THE................30.00
AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONE BOOK.............25.00
ANECDOTES VOL.1..........................15.00
ANECDOTES VOL.2..........................15.00
ANECDOTES VOL.3..........................15.00
ANIMALS..................................25.00
ARTHUR'S TEACHER TROUBLE.................30.00
AUDUBON'S BIRDS..........................25.00
AUDUBON'S MAMMALS........................25.00
BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SCHOOL...............20.00
BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SPACE................20.00
BATTLE CHESS.............................20.00
BEAUTY AND THE BEAST.....................20.00
BIBLE LIBRARY............................30.00
BIBLES & RELIGION........................15.00
BUSINESS ASSISTANT.......................10.00
BUSINESS MASTER..........................20.00
C USERS GROUP LIBRARY....................30.00
CALIFORNIA COLLECTION....................10.00
CAMERON'S FINE ART CATALOG...............40.00
CAREER OPPORTUNIES.......................30.00
CHESSMASTER M/M..........................20.00
CIA WORLD FACT BOOK......................25.00
CIA WORLD FACT BOOK M/M..................30.00
CICA WINDOWS DISK........................20.00
CLIPART GOLIATH..........................15.00
CLIPART HEAVEN...........................15.00
COATES ART REVIEW : IMPRESSIONISM........30.00
COMPLETE BOOKSHOP........................15.00
COMPOSER QUEST...........................35.00
CONSUMER INFORMATION DISC................30.00
COOKBOOK HEAVEN..........................15.00
DANGER HOT STUFF.........................15.00
DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLES.................15.00
DESKTOP BOOKSHOP.........................15.00
DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES.................15.00
DINOSAUR ADVENTURE.......................30.00
EDUCATION MASTER.........................20.00
ELECTRONIC COOKBOOK......................35.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA MPC VER.1...................50.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA MULTI-MEDIA VER.5...........50.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUND....................15.00
EUROPEAN MONARCHS........................30.00
FAMILY DOCTOR............................25.00
FONT MASTER TWO..........................20.00
FONT MASTER..............................10.00
FONTS FOR THE PROFESSIONAL...............25.00
FRESH ARTE...............................30.00
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CD-ROM TITLE                             PRICE
------------------------------------------------------------
GAME ARENA...............................10.00
GAME MASTER..............................20.00
GAME PACK II.............................30.00
GARBO MSDOS/MAC..........................20.00
GIFS GALORE..............................20.00
GREAT CITIES VOLUME 1....................30.00
GREAT CITIES VOLUME 2....................30.00
HAM RADIO................................15.00
HAMCALL..................................40.00
HOLY BIBLE,THE...........................20.00
HOSPITALITY INDEX........................30.00
INTERACTIVE STORY TIME 1.................20.00
INTERACTIVE STORY TIME 2.................20.00
INTERNATIONAL BUSIN. & ECON. ATLAS.......20.00
J SCHUMACHER'S NEW PRAGUE COOKBOOK.......30.00
JETS & PROPS.............................30.00
JOKES & PRANKS...........................10.00
JONES IN THE FAST LANE...................20.00
KGB WORLD FACT BOOK......................30.00
KINGS QUEST V............................20.00
KLOTSKI..................................25.00
KODAK PHOTO CD ACCESS SOFTWARE...........20.00
LANGUAGES OF THE WORLD...................40.00
LEARNING ADVENTURE.......................10.00
LEARNING HEAVEN..........................15.00
LIBRIS BRITANIA..........................40.00
LOOM.....................................20.00
MACMILLAN DICTIONARY FOR CHILDREN........30.00
MAGAZINE RACK............................30.00
MAVIS BACON TEACHES TYPING M/M...........25.00
MAYO CLINIC..............................25.00
MIDDLE EAST DIARY........................30.00
MIDI MUSIC SHOP..........................25.00
MIXED-UP MOTHER GOOSE....................20.00
MONKEY ISLAND............................30.00
MOTHER OF ALL CLIPART....................15.00
MPC WIZARD...............................20.00
MS DOS ARCHIVES (SIMTEL 20)..............20.00
NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC MAMMALS..............30.00
NATIONAL PARKS...........................25.00
NORTH AMERICAN FACIMILE (FAX) BOOK.......30.00
NORTH AMERICAN INDIANS...................30.00
OFFICER'S BOOKCASE.......................30.00
ORIGINAL SHAREWARE.......................10.00
OS/2 ARCHIVES............................20.00
OUR SOLAR SYSTEM.........................15.00
PC-SIG VERSION 11........................20.00
PC-SIG VERSION 12........................25.00
PC-SIG WORLD OF GAMES....................15.00
PC-SIG HOME & BUSINESS COLLECTION........10.00
PC-SIG WORLD OF WINDOWS..................15.00
PENTAMINOES..............................28.00
        
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CD-ROM TITLE                             PRICE
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PETER AND THE WOLF.......................20.00
PHARMACIST GUIDE TO DRUGS................30.00
PIXEL GARDEN.............................30.00
PLANT DOCTOR.............................30.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--FRENCH...........35.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--GERMAN...........35.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--ENGLISH..........35.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--JAPANESE.........35.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--SPANISH..........35.00
PROGRAMMER'S ROM.........................30.00
PROJECT GUTENBURG........................20.00
PUBLIQUE ARTE............................30.00
PUBLISH-IT...............................25.00
Q & A....................................50.00
QRZ HAM RADIO............................20.00
RBBS IN A BOX VERSION 3.1................30.00
REFERENCE LIBRARY........................20.00
ROGER EBERT MOVIE COMPANION..............30.00
SCOUNTING REPORT 92......................30.00
SEALS OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.............30.00
SECRET WEAPONS OF THE LUFTWAFFE..........30.00
SELECTWARE...............................10.00
SHAKESPEARE..............................20.00
SHAREWARE GOLD II VOL.2 #1...............30.00


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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6454
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/19/93  6:02a
Subj: CD-ROM SPECIALS 10/19/93                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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SHAREWARE HEAVEN.........................15.00
SHAREWARE ONLINE.........................25.00
SHAREWARE ONLINE VOL.#2..................25.00
SHERLOCK CONSULTING DETECTIVE............20.00
SHERLOCK HOLMES..........................20.00
SO MUCH SCREENWARE.......................30.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 2......................15.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3......................25.00
SOFTWARE VAULT VOL.2.....................15.00
SOUND SENSATIONS.........................15.00
SOURCE CD-ROM............................20.00
SPACE ADVENTURE..........................30.00
SPACE QUEST IV...........................20.00
SPACE SERIES-APOLLO......................30.00
STELLER 7................................20.00
STRAIGHT FROM HEAVEN.....................15.00
STREET ATLAS USA.........................95.00
TAO OF COW...............................30.00
TECHNOTOOLS..............................15.00
TEMPRA PHOTO CD ACCESS SOFTWARE..........20.00
TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES.................30.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-SCIENCE............25.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-BUS.& POLITICS.....25.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-ARTS & ENTERTAIN...25.00
TOO MANY TYPEFONTS.......................12.00
U.S. ATLAS M/M...........................20.00
U.S. ATLAS WITH AUTOMAP..................25.00

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6455
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/19/93  6:10a
Subj: FREE CATALOG                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FREE CD-ROM CATALOG WITH LOW PRICES.
LEAVE MESSAGE  OR  WRITE  TO:
STEVE GREENO
2508 AVENIDA REGULO
TUCSON AZ. 85710

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 6456
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 10/19/93  5:43p
Subj: cd's still available                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

These titles on cd are still available:

Where in San Diego is Carmen
manual, mouse, soundblaster, Ega/Vga
$20.00

Secret of Monkey Island
mouse ega/vga soundblaster and manual
$15.00

Loom
manual, mouse vga and manual
$15.00

Macromedia Action! 2.5 Se and Clipmedia 2 Se
Create your own multi-media presentations
Windows 3.X, mouse, Vga or better, sound blaster,
ntsc or pal for printing to video, at least 4 mb of ram
386 Sx or Dx, manual
$30.00

I can be reached at 674-3966 leave message.

                                   Mike Harris


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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 6457
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/19/93  5:43p
Subj: sent out today                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Max,
I sent the cd today 10/19 at around 12:00 noon or so, you should get the
package by Friday at the lastest. I sent as promised Priority Mail.

                                  Mike Harris


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 6458
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/18/93  4:48p
Subj: Busty Babes 1                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  I have Busty Babes 1, Will take Computer Items in trade or The First $125.00


              .....|<evin

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 6459
  To: DANIEL PARDUE                            Date: 10/19/93  5:18a
Subj: Re: I want to get some CDs              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 17 Oct 93  13:02:00, I heard Daniel Pardue shout to All Sellers:

DP> I just got a CD-ROM drive and want to buy some software. Please send catalo

Call 1-800-638-5757, They can fix ya up with a catalog, and they are the 
cheapest I have found...

                             ........|<evin

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 6460
  To: RICHARD WICKER                           Date: 10/19/93  2:06p
Subj: Re: Adult GIFs on CD                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 15 Oct 93  12:59:29, I heard Richard Wicker shout to All:

RW> I am interested in collecting more adult Gifs on CD.  I have Stareware. I
RW> know of the Storm collection. What are the other titles I should be looking
RW> for, and how do you rate them?

Southern Beauties is a Really good disk, and it's got VERY nice Scans, Not 
some of this trashy looking stuff that they use to fill space with on some of 
the disk, ALL of them are nice...  I got mine from Free Spirit 1-800-638-5757

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From: JEFF HUBERT                            Number: 6461
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/19/93  3:31p
Subj: cd-rom good deal!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a high-quality mitsumi cd-rom drive for sale for $159 or best offer.  It
has a 350ms access time and is less than a month old. I have all the software,
manuals, 16-bit card adaptor, and everything else that came with the drive.
Everything in brand new condition! please call (410) 442-2726 if you are
interested.  It is multisession photo-cd compatible also!
ONLY $159 or best offer!
Or the drive and the shareware extravaganza cd-rom 4-disc set for only $179!
(shareware extravaganza 4-disc set is normally $50!) OR BEST OFFER!!
This is a very GOOD cd-rom drive, I just need the money, that is why I am
selling it and why it is only a month old.
ANY REASONABLE OFFER ACCEPTED! (410) 442-2726

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From: JOHN RICKER                            Number: 6462
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 10/19/93  4:23p
Subj: CDROM Systems                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO|o| **************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
  |o| Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00  Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
  |o| NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare   - $379.00  NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
  |o| Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $249.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
  |o| Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $739.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1169.  -SCSI
  |o| Texel Int 245ms Bare Dr - $369.00  Texel Ext 245ms Bare  - $469.00 -SCSI
  |o| Texel Int 3021 Bare  Dr - $189.00  Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SCSI
  |o| Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $389.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SCSI
  |o| Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00  Mitsumi w/Sound Card  - $325.00 -PRPR
  |o|  Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50.  ALL ChestNuts CD's $12.00ec
  |o| ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris,

Would you happen to have any TOUCH - External CD-ROM drives, Model
Number GCDR-200 ? , is so how much are they ?

john ricker

 * OLX 2.2 * Great Lie #4: The program is bug free.


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 6463
  To: JOHN RICKER                              Date: 10/14/93  8:30a
Subj: Buying Used CD's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>GE|o| JR>  |o|    Busty Babes 1.3

JR>GE|o| JR>What would ya like for this one ?

JR>GE|o|    $25

JR>Ok, let me get back with ya on this, and do ya know if it is BBS ready ?

   Sorry but don't know what that means.
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ 98% of all constipated people don't give a crap.


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From: GRAHAM KENDALL                         Number: 6464
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 10/18/93  9:45p
Subj: MACINTOSH TITLES                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will ship you the Mac version of Just Grandma and Me for $35.
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From: JUD MITCHELL                           Number: 6465
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/19/93 11:21p
Subj: CD-ROM Wholesalers                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am in the process of setting up a CD-ROM retail business
and I am looking for wholesalers and manufacturers. Please
send me your Catalog and price list with quanity breaks to:

        Jud Mitchell
        4511 North Shore Drive
        The Colony, Texas 75056



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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 6466
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 10/19/93  7:16p
Subj: Re: Misc items for trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Eddie Phillips to All <=-

 EP> Here's what I HAVE:

 EP> - OS/2 2.0
 EP> shrinkwrapped.............................................$40 - Alpha

I may be interested in this, can I come over a take a look at it?


... Do what you will with this tagline, just don't bother me about it!
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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 6467
  To: ZACHARY HAMM                             Date: 10/19/93  7:16p
Subj: Re: WALNUT CREEK ADDRESS?               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Zachary Hamm to All <=-

 ZH> 

 ZH> Anybody got Walnut Creek's Address and Phone Number??


Walnut Creek CDROM
4041 Pike Lane, Suite D-359
Concord, CA  94520

1-800-786-9907
info@cdrom.com
1-510-674-0821 (fax)


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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 6468
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 10/19/93 11:38p
Subj: Re: Misc items for trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÿ@ORIGIN :Southern Pride BBS 1:151/151                                N
ÿ@REQRR  :Caller has requested a Return Receipt                       N
-> EP> - OS/2 2.0
-> shrinkwrapped.............................................$40
->
-> I may be interested in this, can I come over a take a look at it?

I'm more out than I am in....do you want to meet me somewhere ??  It's
in the shrinkwrap, so there's not a whole lot to look at except the box
as I'd like to keep it shrinkwrapped.  Let me know when you'd like to
meet....my best time is during lunch or after 8pm.



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From: DAN PROCIV                             Number: 6469
  To: BOB DAMATO                               Date: 10/19/93 12:15a
Subj: ASIAN LADIES FOR TRADE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I have southern beauties... My advice is they should have called it southe
-> barnyards... I wouldnt make that one high on your list!  I was really
-> dissappointed.  I would like to buy the mystique of the orient as well....
-> anyone is listening....  :)

-> --- TMail v1.31.4
->  * Origin: Bruces Bar & Grill *IT'S THE REAL THING* 203.236.3761 (1:142/20

Bob,
I have Mystique of the Orient for $59. Call the CD-Machine anytime 24hours for
fast dependable service at (503)236-4969. Fax (503)236-4969 or place online
orders at BBS (503)236-3266.




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From: DAN PROCIV                             Number: 6470
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 10/19/93 12:21a
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I'm looking for the best price on a cd rom, sound card combo.
-> 200ms seek time and at least 300kb per sec transfer.
-> 16 bit sound card.

-> --- FreeMail 1.07b
->  * Origin: The Outer-Limits (618) 439-9629 * HST/V32 * (1:2290/70)

Chris, I have the following bundles available here at the CD-Machine. Call us
anytime for quotes, questions or a catalog at (503)236-4969, Fax (503)236-4969
or BBS (503)236-3266/236-0269.

Toshiba XM-3401B. 200ms access, SCSI-2, Photo CD compatible, 330kb/sec
transfer, 256k buffer with a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 Sound card. Sound may be
recorded and played back at 44.1 KHz, 16 bit stereo. Built in SCSI interface,
4Watt/channel stereo amplifier, 20 voice stereo synthesizer, and 3 year
warranty. Includes bundled software: MIDI sequencer, waveform editor, text to
speech synthesizer, 4 track music studio, and Windows drivers. Compatible with
Windows 3.1, MPC, Ad Lib, and Sound Blaster.
***$649.00 plus shipping and handling***







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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 6471
  To: ZACHARY HAMM                             Date: 10/19/93  4:30p
Subj: LOTUS 1-2-3 FOR $50                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Zachary,

Answering a msg of <17 Oct 93>, from Zachary Hamm to Ed Duchek:
It has a small book with it.  I would venture to guess not the full book.  i
also have it on 1.44's, which is the full package... same price.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 6472
  To: TONY DAVIS                               Date: 10/19/93  6:51p
Subj: BBS Defense Fund                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Tony!

Friday October 15 1993 09:33, Tony Davis wrote to All:

 TD>            The Tony Davis Electronic Defense Fund

You broke the law, so why don't you just accept your punishment, or move to a
jurisdiction that allows selling XXX material?  It seems you wouldn't be in
this mess if you obeyed your local laws in the first place.  Please don't
litter all the echos with your "poor little old me... please send money"
messages.


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From: DAVID ROBERTS                          Number: 6473
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 10/19/93  4:51p
Subj: Re: CD Encyclopedia for s               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> CD-ROMS
 MS> I have a couple copies of Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia for
 MS> Windows for sale.
 MS> Version 1.01  (1992 edition)..........................Best offer
 MS> Version 2.01  (1993 edition, just released)...........Best offer
 MS> If interested, post here or call 1-504-893-7279.

If this is the multimedia version, I'll offer $35 for the 1993 ver 2.01.
If we can work a deal, give me a call at 808-624-1293.



... Not tonight, dear.....I have a modem
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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 6474
  To: DEALERS                                  Date: 10/20/93  8:43a
Subj: win roms                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Folk

Looking for a windows cd-rom newer then the cdwinbox I am running on my bbs
now....

want all 93 files and not a lot of wall-paper junk....

..Red..

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 6475
  To: RUSTY ATKINS                             Date: 10/20/93  3:30p
Subj: Off-Topic, On-Target                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Rusty Atkins wrote in a message [ about PORN ]  to  All  Dealers:

RA>    We  will  not  frequent  trade  shows,  stores,  or  anyplace
RA> else that has barred this material.

 I guess I won't be seeing you around much... :)  I  don't  attend
 trade shows, stores or any  place  that  promotes  material  that
 cheapens and degrades  the  sexual  love.   The  preciousness  of
 human life is going down fast in a society  when  you  can  pay a
 quarter to watch people fornicate and then whey you order a  coke
 it cost a dollar.



 "Then  said  they  to  him,  We  be  not  born  of   fornication"
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6476
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 10/21/93  7:43p
Subj: BBS Defense Fund                        Refer: 9933
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Hello Tony!

Dave, who are you going to piss off next?

Chill.... Say something nice.

tim
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From: DAVID SMITH                            Number: 6477
  To: DOUG HUMMEL                              Date: 10/20/93  7:44a
Subj: CONTROLLER CARD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 10-17-93 DOUG HUMMEL wrote to ALL...

 DH> WANTED!!!!   CONTROLLER CARD FOR HITACHI CD-ROM MODEL CDR-3500
 DH> (THIS IS AN INTERNAL CR-ROM)
I think this is the type of one of the 3 CDs Im running in my board?
If so the controler is supposed to handle up to 7 of those drives.
Unfortunatly all of the suppliers around here only want to sell the
drives with controlers only. (Major Bummer!) Wouldn't want to sell
the drive you have would you? I'm running three different CDs in one
machine and running out of slots fast!


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From: MARK ELSON                             Number: 6478
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/20/93  5:57a
Subj: CDs                                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> ME>Have a couple of questions for you.....
-> ME>when will the OS/2 Box CD be out??
->
-> We should begin shipping around Oct. 25th.
->
-> ME>and is the Mac Shareware disk BBS ready???
->
-> No....meant for Apple system drives only.
->
-> ME>is the new Busty Babes out yet??
->
-> Just started shipping from what I understand.  Ours are en route and
-> should be here soon!  Price is $29.
->
-> ME>what kind of deal can I get if I buy all 3 of the above...
->
-> How about $25 each in a package deal?  Give a shout if interested....

Mike,

Cant use the Mac disk...but will take the other two...Send me one of
each of the following...
1 - OS/2 Disk and 1 Busty Babes.....you can send them COD....

Mark Elson
PO Box 58057
280 World Trade Center
Dallas, Texas  75258

IF you need any other info let me know.....

Mark


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From: RICHIE NEBB                            Number: 6479
  To: KURT ANNO                                Date: 10/19/93 10:23p
Subj: ROM DRIVES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Differeces between CD-ROM drives:
1.  Access Speed....
         Older drives have 550 to 700 ms access time, VERY SLOW!
         330-360 ms access is good, and will do all ya want it to.
         Faster than 300 ms is VERY EXPENSIVE

2.  Data Transfer Rate...
         150 K per second is good, and is MPC I standard
         300 K per second is double-speed - EXPENSIVE

3.  Cache...
         A drive with a controller that HAS an on-board cache is GOOD

4.  Internal vs External...
         Depends on your needs & preferences & available space

MY DRIVE, a MITSUMI internal, 350 ms access speed, 150 KPS transfer
rate, 64 K Hardware cache on the controller card.  Plays multimedia CD
titles, like DINOSOUR ADVENTURE great, with fluid video on my 386-DX40.


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From: RICHIE NEBB                            Number: 6480
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 10/19/93 10:35p
Subj: CD-ROM Disks for Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You Keep the Novell Disk.

I'll give ya $75 for the rest of the bunch, or $50 without the 2
roadmap/atlas disks. Shareware CD-Roms with pre 1993 files can be picked
up at the computer shows NEW RETAIL at $10 or less.  I've got many
titles, but I could always use more to play with.


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From: RETURN RECEIPT                         Number: 6481
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 10/20/93  7:46a
Subj: Re: Misc items for trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÿ@ACKRR  :Acknowledge Receipt of msg 2767 written on 10-20-93 07:46   N
ÿ@FROM   :MICHAEL KELLY                                               N
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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 6482
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 10/20/93 10:03a
Subj: Re: Misc items for trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Michael Kelly to Eddie Phillips <=-

 -=> Quoting Eddie Phillips to All <=-
 
 EP> Here's what I HAVE:
 
 EP> - OS/2 2.0
 EP> shrinkwrapped.............................................$40 - Alpha

 MK> I may be interested in this, can I come over a take a look at it?


I thought you were a friend by the same name here local to me! :-)  So it
would appear that I cannot come over and pick it up!  Is this the complete
OS/2 v2.0 package?


... I call things as I see them; If I didn't see them, I make them up!
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From: LANE PETERSON                          Number: 6483
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/20/93  1:31p
Subj: avi cdrom                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Does anyone know where I can get the cdrom full of avi files that
supposedly is put out bt microsoft (or any cdrom full of avis)?

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From: LANE PETERSON                          Number: 6484
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/20/93  1:35p
Subj: sherlock holmes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

also does anyone have either of the sherlock holmes cdroms for sale?


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From: STEAN SNYMAN                           Number: 6485
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 10/15/93 11:04p
Subj: BRAND NEW CD-ROM TITLES                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Brice!

Thursday October 07 1993, Brice Fleckenstein writes to Stean Snyman:

 BF> If you are looking for a LOT of stuff on a disc, avoid VGA Spectrum - they
 BF> included both the .ZIP AND the unZIPped version of all the software on
 BF> their disc, along with a few hundred .GIFs and some other graphics
 BF> files. If you want to be able to run the stuff from the ROM, then VGA
 BF> Spectrum is a good choice, as most of the programs CAN be run from the
 BF> ROM.

Thanks..  Thats helps.  So its a BIG waste of space... :(

Adios
Stean

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From: GARY HOFFERMAN                         Number: 6486
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/20/93 10:22a
Subj: Cdrom resellers wanted                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello to All,

We are looking for resellers and system builders who would be interested in
marketing or bundling CDROM software. We are distributors and brokers of over
400 titles (and growing). Export orders are our specialty.

If you would be interested, please contact me at Consolidated CDROM:
+1.215.276.3657 voice, or by fax at +1.215.276.3854.

Thank you,

Gary
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6487
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/20/93 12:29a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE$ 3/3                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 October 1993            DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST      Last update: 10/20
 **************************************************************************
                                   3 of 3
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Guinness Disc of Records 93...33.00    Street Atlas USA v1...........86.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    Street Atlas USA v2 (New!)....95.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    STW Illustrated Encyclopedia..34.00
 Hamware 1993..................24.00    STW Multimedia Encyclopedia...44.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    STW MPC Encyclopedia..........45.50
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Super CD 1....................19.00
 Home/Business Legal Guide.....13.00    Super Games For Windows.......10.00
 House of Games................21.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........35.50
 Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........35.50
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Technotools...................13.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..24.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....39.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........45.00    Timetable of Business/Politic.26.00
 Jets & Props..................28.50    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............39.00    Total Baseball................27.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    Trump Castle..................28.00
 King's Quest V................24.00    U.S./World Atlas 3.0..........23.00
 King's Quest VI (New!)........44.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........22.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 La Colleccion (Spanish S/W)...29.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Lan Master (New!).............26.50    U.S. Wars: Civil War..........34.00
 Languages of the World........44.00    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 Learning Heaven (New!)........25.50    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............34.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    U.S. Wars: WWII...............34.00
 Libris Britannia..............42.00    USA Today: The 90's (New!)....36.00
 Loom..........................19.00    VGA Spectrum 1................13.00
 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...39.00    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 Mac Shareware (New!)..........24.00    Visions of Saturn.............23.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........34.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Wildcat Gold..................27.50
 Mad Dog McCree (New!).........49.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Windoware.....................13.00
 Majestic Places...............38.50    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Manhole.......................34.50    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Mantis........................24.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    World Atlas MPC...............26.50
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............27.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mega Clipart..................27.00    World Traveler................13.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf 1992 MPC..46.00    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..49.00    World Vision 3-Pak............39.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00
 Microsoft Golf MPC (New!).....58.00    X11R5/GNU.....................24.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
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 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
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 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: JOHN ANTHONY                           Number: 6488
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/20/93  5:23a
Subj: CD's, I'm looking for CDs               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone have CD's for sale i'm looking for about 19 cds for my 3 and one
cdroms.


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From: JACK BROWN                             Number: 6489
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/19/93  6:47p
Subj: Appalling attitude, fella               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DCinto stock and also letting you continue to bad mouth and flame DCme because
your order hadn't showed up.

DCsurprise me.  Like I stated above, Express Mail is usually DCchosen by most,
and you can't complain about it since you DCdidn't bother to tell me what
method you wanted.

DCpractice.  If I had shipped it by ground, which is the DCcheapest, you would
have really bitched, because it takes 30 DCdays or longer to get there.  And,
NO, you have no right to DCcontiue to be annoyed,as I have filled my end of the
bargain.

Two Cardinal Rules for Anyone Wishing to Stay in Business:

Rule 1.  The Customer is ALWAYS Right.  Period. Rule 2.  Refer to Rule #1.

Doug, your attitude (to be brutally blunt) sucks - bigtime.  No way, nohow will
I ever do business with anyone whose discourse with customers even remotely
resembles yours.  You have a great deal to learn, but you probably won't remain
in business long enough.
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From: BOB BRODOVSKY                          Number: 6490
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 10/20/93 12:46a
Subj: CD Encyclopedia for sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MICHAEL Said this about CD Encyclopedia for sale to ALL %a. 
 
MS>CD-ROMS 
MS>I have a couple copies of Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia for 
MS>Windows for sale. 
MS>Version 1.01  (1992 edition)..........................Best offer 
MS>Version 2.01  (1993 edition, just released)...........Best offer 
MS>If interested, post here or call 1-504-893-7279. 
 
I'm intrested... What do ya think there worth? I really have no Idea.. 
 
--==>>Bob<<==-- 
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From: NICK ZENTENA                           Number: 6491
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/20/93  5:44p
Subj: Toronto area shops?                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


        Hi,
                Does anybody know of any Toronto area
                retailers that stock alot of CD's [i.e. more
                then the few that are usually bundled with
                drives] I'd like to justify the purchase of
                this drive.

                Thanks
                Nick

------------------------------------------------------
Nick Zentena
nick.zentena@canrem.com [should work-)]
zen@hophead.north.net [best bet]
        Canned Draught? Is that like frugal politicans?
-------------------------------------------------------

 * I don't need no stinking corn in my Beer!
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 6492
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/19/93  9:31p
Subj: Spreadsheet Template/Utility CD-ROM     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the sixth edition of
its Spreadsheet CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a
dump of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The October 1993 CD-ROM has
352 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 125,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
The library has mostly 1-2-3 templates, but also many for Excel and QPro. The
1-2-3 products can be used with the other spreadsheets (at least the vast
majority of them).
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 6493
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 10/19/93  7:24a
Subj: CD Player                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Ron!

Monday October 18 1993, Ron Dwight writes to Pat Rickerson:

 RD> Hi Pat,

 >>  PR> person know the money was in the mail. Could you
 >>  PR> please tell how and where I make replys, any help
 >>  PR> would be great. I am not a dealer just a housewife

 >> Replies should be sent by netmail.  That way only the sender has to pay
 >> for them.

 RD>           Replies for orders and such, one to one correspondance with a
 RD> dealer, should be sent "crash" or "Direct" NetMail.  Altenatively via some
 RD> other Network than Fidonet.

 RD>           FidoNet is an amateur organisation in which every SysOp pays
 RD> his/her own costs. It is not deemed reasonable that businesses should use
 RD> the network for the purposes of profit, on the backs of those volunteers.
 RD> The situation in EchoMail is somewhat anomolous and strained right now,
 RD> but ROUTING NetMail orders and such could (I said could, not would <grin>)
 RD> get the echo into problems with the Fidonet backbone operators.

 RD>          Basically, if you wish to place an order then use CRASH or DIRECT
 RD> NetMail and NOT routed NetMail.  Another alternative would be to use the
 RD> vendor's BBS.  Thanks for reading.

Will do, thanks.
Pat

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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 6494
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 10/19/93 12:59p
Subj: Asian Ladies                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MH.> I wanted to express my grief over their Asian ladies cd ( I not
MH.> complaining to you I didn't ask for a review first :-) I used a gif
 
If you're intrested in getting rid of this, I'll offer $20 shipped.
Jason

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6495
  To: STEVE EVERLEY                            Date: 10/19/93  8:20p
Subj: Telephone Directory                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SE> When is the next update supposed to be out. I know 
 SE> that telephone numbers change so rapidly that its 
 SE> about 10% out of date or better by the time it 
 SE> gets printed. Is there a known lag time from when 
 SE> the info is gathered and the CD is made.???
 SE> Thanks for the input..Looking foreward to ordering one from you.
 
I would imagine they will update it again around early '94.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6496
  To: RICHARD WICKER                           Date: 10/19/93  8:28p
Subj: CD-ROMs for Amiga                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RW> Are there any CD-ROM titles out for the AMIGA?  And 
 RW> do any of you have any
 RW> for sale?
 
We have the Fred Fish Collection OnLine v1.5 for $49 and also the AMiNet all
Amiga CD for $14.50 and the slightly older AB20 all Amiga for $10.50.
Give us a call at 800-547-7817 to order one or 615-339-0235 to discuss.

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From: JIM COYLE                              Number: 6497
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/18/93  1:17a
Subj: Re: NO10 vs Pier 3                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MS> Well, I did call at the request of a customer, and the lady who answered
MS> quoted me $29.  Also, here is the latest copy of their ad that I've seen:

Well, I believe I already ordered the Night Owl 9 and 10 so I will hold out on
the Pier 3. Thanks for the excellent price though!

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From: JIM COYLE                              Number: 6498
  To: ERIC SANTELICES                          Date: 10/20/93  5:11a
Subj: Re: Latest Shareware CD-ROM             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ES> What is the latest SHAREWARE CD-ROM on the market.  I want one that was
ES> produced with in the last 6 mon.  I would also like it to support FILES.BBS
ES> description structures.
ES>   
ES> Any suggestions?

Pier 3 and Night Owl v9 and v10. Look around in the echo. You'll find many 
places to get them.

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From: RON COLEMAN                            Number: 6499
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/19/93 10:16p
Subj: Adults CD's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking to buy some Adult CD's if anyone wants to send me there 
catalog,heres my address
 Ron Coleman
 9 S.Main
Ashley,PA.18706-1504
And I'm well over 21. Thanks.

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From: MOHIT GOYAL                            Number: 6500
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/20/93 11:58p
Subj: I want OS/2 cdroms!!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you are selling a cdrom with OS/2 files, please send me a reply with
the disc name, price, megs, & a good description.

Thanks!
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From: JARED MARTIN                           Number: 6501
  To: RUSS HUNTLEY                             Date: 10/20/93  9:49p
Subj: Battle Chess Enhanced                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I had BattleChess on regular disks, but I was just wondering if it was 
higher quality on the cd-rom.  I looked into 7th Guest, but it requires a
16bit video card, and I only have an 8 bit one.  Bummer...

Jared



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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 6502
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/20/93  5:07a
Subj: new releases                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

mike, any word on when the next simtel dos and hobbes os/2 CDs will be pressed?

\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2
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From: MICHAEL GUIDRY                         Number: 6503
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 10/20/93 10:28p
Subj: Bbs Defense Fund                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 19 Oct 93, Dave Reed stated to Tony Davis:

DR>Hello Tony!  Friday October 15 1993 09:33, Tony Davis wrote to
DR>All:   TD>            The Tony Davis Electronic Defense Fund  You
DR>broke the law, so why don't you just accept your punishment, or
DR>move to a jurisdiction that allows selling XXX material?  It seems
DR>you wouldn't be in this mess if you obeyed your local laws in the
DR>first place.  Please don't litter all the echos with your "poor
DR>little old me... please send money" messages.

Has he been convicted yet?  Seems like that's the test of whether he's
broken the law.


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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 6504
  To: ZACHARY HAMM                             Date: 10/20/93  8:15a
Subj: Re: WALNUT CREEK ADDRESS?               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

.

17 Oct 93, Zachary Hamm writes to All:

   ZH> Anybody got Walnut Creek's Address and Phone Number?


Walnut Creek CDROM
1547 Palos Verdes Mall (Suite 260)
Walnut Creek, CA  94596

1-800-786-9907 (orders)
1-510-674-0783 (voice)
1-510-674-0821 (fax)

or info@cdrom.com

                                       - Arnie :+}


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From: ROB MCINTYRE                           Number: 6505
  To: BOBBY WIENHOLT                           Date: 10/20/93  1:31a
Subj: Re: Cd rom list 1 of 3                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Gifs Galore for $30 ? Good Luck ! Walnut Creek sells 'em for $24.99 so
-> that's it's regular price.

 BW> Ya know, I couldn't care less.  You don't have to be an idiot about
 BW> it.

:-/ Ahem... In other words, could you beat the regular price and the other echo
guys at $14.99 ? Any news on the second version ?   

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From: ROB MCINTYRE                           Number: 6506
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/20/93  1:30a
Subj: cd list 2 of 5                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

When you get the next Gifs Galore, how much would you sell it for ?

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From: ROB MCINTYRE                           Number: 6507
  To: RICHARD WICKER                           Date: 10/20/93  2:31a
Subj: CD-ROMs for Amiga                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Not much xcept shareware : Fred Fish Collection, Fred Fish Online, Aminet
(shareware online) & AB20 (shareware online). Look thru the catalogs on this
echo.

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 6508
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/20/93  2:59p
Subj: Trade adult cd disc                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I wish to trade my T & A 2 The Maxx (1993) for any other
adult cd disc.  Leave msg here.  Thanks.

Randy


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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 6509
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/20/93  9:33p
Subj: CD's Sale/Trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Workd View                   20.00
Glamour Girls of 43          45.00
Space Quest IV               20.00
or trade for other cd's
ken 412 793 9152
___
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From: DAVE BACHMANN                          Number: 6510
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/19/93 11:53p
Subj: CD ROMs                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Good Morning!

I'm about to get a CD ROM drive as a present for my wife and would
like some feedback from anyone and everyone.  The target machine is a
486SX/DOS and the major application will be for reference - no games are
required, so I don't think I have to look for a SoundBlaster.

What are your experiences?  What features should you have got but
didn't?  What did you get and shouldn't have?  Double spin worth the
added $?  Any compatability/driver problems to be aware of?  Any other
questions I should be asking but haven't?

TIA,
Dave
... Thesaurus: ancient reptile with an excellent vocabulary
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From: DEVIN UHRICH                           Number: 6511
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/20/93  8:18p
Subj: price                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone know Where I can get nite owl 10 in Canada for hopefully under 70
dollars canadianm?

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From: ALAN ORNDORFF                          Number: 6512
  To: MODERATOR                                Date: 10/20/93  5:48p
Subj: Ron Dwight                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RD> > Replies should be sent by netmail.  That way only the sender has to pay
  > > for them.

RD>          Replies for orders and such, one to one correspondance with a
  >dealer, should be sent "crash" or "Direct" NetMail.  Altenatively via some
  >other Network than Fidonet.

RD>          FidoNet is an amateur organisation in which every SysOp pays his/h
  >own costs. It is not deemed reasonable that businesses should use the networ
  >for the purposes of profit, on the backs of those volunteers.  The situation
  >in EchoMail is somewhat anomolous and strained right now, but ROUTING NetMai
  >orders and such could (I said could, not would <grin>) get the echo into
  >problems with the Fidonet backbone operators.

RD>         Basically, if you wish to place an order then use CRASH or DIRECT
  >NetMail and NOT routed NetMail.  Another alternative would be to use the
  >vendor's BBS.  Thanks for reading.

Hello Mr. Moderator.

   Can you please do something to shut this guy up.  His messages to
Doug Carpenter are way past the boring stage, and in one of them he's
belittled himself to the point of using one swear word several times.
Now he's telling people how to route their mail.  Please help.

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From: BOB CENTERBAR                          Number: 6513
  To: GEOFF REED                               Date: 10/20/93  9:16p
Subj: Adult Cds Wanted For Bbs                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 10-17-93 GEOFF REED wrote to BOB CENTERBAR... 
 
 GR>   Bob, if he's not interested in that CD, I am :)  i'm planning to put 
 GR> my 
 GR> CD-Rom drive onto my bbs soon.  I can be reached at (206) 661-3662 if 
 GR> I'm 
 GR> not here, leave a message on the machine and I'll call ya back ASAP :) 
 GR>   
Geoff...Its yours for $30.00, send money order to: 
 
2208 Cooke Drive 
Killeen, TX 76543 
 
Please send me some sort of proof of age (over 18) and if you want it 
sent 2 day express mail just add $1.45 (I'll split cost) for a total 
of $31.45. 
 
Later...Bob 
 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50  "Live from Central Texas...." 

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From: CAM LERCH                              Number: 6514
  To: ROB O'DELL                               Date: 10/14/93  7:25a
Subj: NEC Portable CD-ROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> I have a few NEC Intersect 36 PORTABLE CD-ROMs laying around.
> They are SCSI interface and come with power supply and manual.

> $99.00 each.
Do you have a controler card for them?

(a/\/\

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From: CAM LERCH                              Number: 6515
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 10/14/93  7:27a
Subj: FREE CD-ROM CATALOG                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> SEND FOR YOUR FREE CD-ROM CATALOG
> OVER 200 TITLES ---  $10.00 TO $50.00  (MOST UNDER $25.00)
> FREE SHIPPING

Sure, I'm interested in this.. please send it to:

        CAM LERCH
    916 BALLENAS ROAD
  PARKSVILLE B.C. CANADA
         V9P 1T1

Thanks..

(a/\/\

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From: AULTON WHITE                           Number: 6516
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/21/93  9:42p
Subj: Adult CDs for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Name                Rating  BBS      Description                Price
                            Ready
After Dark Triology XXX      N         Movie Shorts ...............$30. Amatuer
Models       X       Y         500 Centerfolds 1024x786    $25
Best Vivid Clips    XXX      N         Movie clips                 $32
Busty Babes #2      XXX      Y         The Second Busty Babes      $29
College Girls       XXX      N         Win cap. Easy setup         $31
Condo Cuties                 N         Movie                       $33
Debbie Does Dallas  XXX      N         Movie                       $31
Devil & Mrs Jones   XXX      N         Movie                       $31
Digital Dreams       X       Y         660 Megs GIFs HiRes         $22
Dirty Talk          XXX      N         Movie                       $31
Doors of Passion    XXX      N       * Interactive full motion     $35
Extreme Delight     XXX                HOT                         $26
Kama Sutra          XXX      N         Movie sound                 $31
King D...           XXX      N         Movie                       $36
L.A. Stripers        X       N         Nice one Movie              $36
Mystique Orient     XXX      N         Movie                       $32
Phone Sex                    N         Sound 500 Meg               $17
Southern Beauties    X       N         1000 1024x768               $26
Storm #4            XXX      Y         Latest in the series        $25
Sweet Dreams        X        Y         Interactive Available       $27
Super Smutware     XXX       Y         640 Meg Hot                 $23
Wild Women         XXX       Y         May be To HOT               $23
Women of Venus      G       PC/MAC     Win/Dos/Mac  Swimsuits      $22
 
 
      ****************************************
      ** Must provide proof of age over 21! **
      ****************************************
                                               Does not include Shipping
       Orders only (800) 377-5812         Check/COD/MO
       Info        (912) 241-0202
       Fax         (912) 241-0402
       BBS         (912) 245-1865
       FIDO        1:3645/30    NetMail
 
       Netmail or call for price or other CDs available

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From: MATTHEW SMITH                          Number: 6517
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/21/93  6:47a
Subj: cd content                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Could somebody tell me how 'filled up' the following cd-roms are (mbs) :

Sights & Sounds
GIF's Galore (G-Rated)
Sound Effects Library
Sound Sensations
Sound Works
Soundware Collection.
SoundWAV
C User's Group Library

Also, which of the above 'bbs-ready' with files.bbs's?

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From: LARRY HUEGELE                          Number: 6518
  To: DANIEL PARDUE                            Date: 10/21/93  6:05a
Subj: FREE CATALOG???                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DP> Please send a catalog to:
DP>
DP> Daniel Pardue
DP> 29 Melrose Dr.
DP> Marrero, LA 70072

You sent this to the WRONG person.  I have no catalog...


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From: STEVE EVERLEY                          Number: 6519
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/21/93  9:14a
Subj: National Geographic Index CD            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ok...  Does anyone out there know if National Geographic has a CD-Rom with
their magazine index.  I know they have a complete index in hard back. It
covers 1888 - 1988. Indexes all articles, stories, maps, etc. etc.
Maby some of the other magazine publishers have their index published too. 
Anyone with info about availability please post.
-=Steve=-
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6520
  To: ALAN ORNDORFF                            Date: 10/22/93  6:22p
Subj: Ron Dwight                              Refer: 9973
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Hello Mr. Moderator.

Hello Mr. User |)

->    Can you please do something to shut this guy up.  His messages to
-> Doug Carpenter are way past the boring stage, and in one of them he's
-> belittled himself to the point of using one swear word several times.
-> Now he's telling people how to route their mail.  Please help.

I'm doing the best I can... As far as that thread goes, I've already
posted the obligatory reprimand and I don't want to do it again.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6521
  To: MATTHEW SMITH                            Date: 10/22/93  6:23p
Subj: cd content                              Refer: 9978
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Could somebody tell me how 'filled up' the following cd-roms are (mbs
-> SoundWAV

SoundWAV is 610 megs.

tim
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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 6522
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/21/93  2:21p
Subj: CDROM Titles for Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For Sale. 1 each. Price firm. U. S. only. No C.O.D. Shipping $2 per order. 
 $8--Critical Care Medline  $8--Gastroenterology & Hepatolgy Medline 
 $10--Golden Immortal  $10--Encyclopedia of Sound Vol I  $14--Super CD I 
 $16--Disc to the Future II   $18--Phoenix CD Ver. 4.0 
 $22--Gameware Collection   $22--ShareWare Online Vol. 2 
 $22--Quicktoons Classic Cartoons (MAC & PC Windows compatible) 
 $30--1992 Software Toolworks (GROLIER) MPC Encyclopedia Ver. 1.5 
Send orders to: Paul F. Swider  509 Digger St.  Las Vegas, Nv. 89107 
M.O. next day service. Check gets a week wait. All orders get a letter 
telling status, refund, etc.. Or call 702-877-4907 8AM-8PM PSDT to reserve. 
  
... OFFLINE 1.50 

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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 6523
  To: JOHN ANTHONY                             Date: 10/21/93  1:57p
Subj: CD's, I'm looking for CD                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 10-20-93 John Anthony wrote to All... 
 
 JA> Anyone have CD's for sale i'm looking for about 19 cds for my 3 and 
  
For Sale. 1 each. Price firm. U. S. only. No C.O.D. Shipping $2 per order. 
 $8--Critical Care Medline  $8.--Gastroenterology & Hepatolgy Medline 
 $10--Golden Immortal  $10--Encyclopedia of Sound Vol I  $14--Super CD I 
 $16--Disc to the Future II  $18--Phoenix CD Ver. 4.0 
 $22--Gameware Collection  $22.00-ShareWare Online Vol. 2 
 $22--Quicktoons Classic Cartoons (MAC & PC compatible) 
 $30--1992 Software Toolworks (GROLIER) MPC Encyclopedia Ver. 1.5 
Send orders to: Paul F. Swider  509 Digger St.  Las Vegas, Nv. 89107 
Money order gets one day turn around. Check gets a week wait. 
All orders get a letter telling status, refund, etc..

 
Jonh, Maybe something in my above ad interests you. >Paul< 
 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50  "Anything free is what you pay for it." 

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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 6524
  To: LANE PETERSON                            Date: 10/21/93  2:41p
Subj: avi cdrom                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 10-20-93 Lane Peterson wrote to All... 
 
 LP>         Does anyone know where I can get the cdrom full of  
 LP> avi files that supposedly is put out bt microsoft (or any  
 LP> cdrom full of avis)? 
  
 Lane, I'm sure ther are others by Microsoft but the one title that I 
 have seen is their Video for Windows package. It includes a CD that 
 has AVIs in a bunch of catagories. 2 other titles you may want to look 
 for are 20th Century Video Almanac. It covers 1890-1990 and has about 
 160 AVI files on it. Also there is a title out called Reel Clips. I  
 haven't seen it but understand it has lots of AVI files on it too. Hope 
 this helps. >Paul< 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50  "It looks like an optical illusion, but it isn't." 

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From: LANE PETERSON                          Number: 6525
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/21/93  4:46p
Subj: OS2                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Does anyone have OS2 2.1 for sale on cd-rom? (or even on 3.5 floppies
if that's all you have, but I would prefer CD)
Please reply here or to lane-peterson@uiowa.edu if you have internet access.

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From: JOHN RICKER                            Number: 6526
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 10/22/93  5:01p
Subj: *** CD-ROM DISC SALE ***                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR|o|         Over 766 disc titles & hardware products are now available.
  |o| To order, contact:

Joe,

  If possible could you please send me a Catalog of your products to:

John Ricker
1345 East Mercer Lane
Phoenix, Az  85020


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From: CORNELL EYDE                           Number: 6527
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 10/21/93  7:58p
Subj: MY DISK                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Boris,

It's been quite some time since I returned the 5 Star Windows collection
CD (unopened) and a check for $13.00 which cleared my bank on Oct 5, 1993
but I still have not recieved my Shareware explorer ?? I think thats what it
was, valued at $35, could you please let me know what the status of this order
is??

If that disk is no longer available or has not been sent yet, please send me
a Night Owl 10 instead, Please keep me posted


Cornell Eyde

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 6528
  To: DEVIN UHRICH                             Date: 10/21/93 10:18p
Subj: price                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Anyone know Where I can get nite owl 10 in Canada for hopefully under
-> 70 dollars canadianm?
Hi Devin!
   $45 Canadian at CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA. (plus $2 S/H.)... my
number is 306-789-4654, or you can write to us at 6 Armstrong Bay,
Regina, Sk., Canada. (If you're sending a cheque, the final amount is
$47... all applicable taxes are already included in the price).
   Vince
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From: PATRICK SHEN                           Number: 6529
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/22/93  1:48p
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have following CD-ROMs for sale.  All CD-ROMs are in New Condition. Add $3
for UPS or Priority Mail shipping.

7th Guest by Virgin Games (2 CD set).  Smooth full motion video.  Best CD ever
made.                                    --------------  $42.00

Software Toolworks CD Deluxe Pack.  Includes ChessMaster 3000 MPC, Mavis
Beacon Teaches Typing MPC, U.S. Atlas MPC and World Atlas MPC.  Each has own
complete documents.                          --------------  $55.00

Software Toolworks CD Game Pack II.  10 games on one CD.  Each has its own
documents.                             --------------------  $23.00

LucasArts Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe.  Very good World War II Air Combat
Simulation game.  I'll include a mission/utilities disk as a free bonus.       
                              -------------------  $22.00

Defender of the Crown - A tale of jousting heroes and damsels in distess by
Cinemaware.  A Robin Hood game.  Requires a Hitachi CD-ROM drive with audio
output.                                ------------------  $18.00

Mixed-up Mother Goose MPC.  Sierra combines master storytelling with the
classic rhymes to create this children's adventure game.  Children learn early
reading skills and get introduced to the world of computers.
                                          ---------------------  $20.00

Deathstar Arcade Battles.  The most exciting arcade action and other games of
all time.                           ------------------  $15.00

American Business Phone Book 92 Edition.    ------------ $20.00 (pending)

SelectWare System.  The Ultimate Software Demo System.   ------   $9.00

Amateur Models Adult CD.                 ---------------- $35.00 (pending)

Hot Pix Volume 4 Adult CD.               ---------------- $20.00 (pending)

If you are interested, please reply here to contact me at E-mail address
below.

Patrick Shen
CompuServe: 72072,3612
Internet: pshen#simenv.com or 72072.3612@compuserve.com

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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 6530
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 10/22/93  5:32p
Subj: Re: Trade adult cd disc                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <10-20-93 14:59> Randy Neuner wrote:

RN>  I wish to trade my T & A 2 The Maxx (1993) for any other
RN>  adult cd disc.  Leave msg here.  Thanks.

Randy how many images are on T&A 2 The Maxx, I imght be interested in trading
you an original Ecstasy Hot Pic Vol #1 for it. Let me know.

                Blaine  
 
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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 6531
  To: TERRY MCDILL                             Date: 10/22/93  3:54a
Subj: Re: Adult CD-Roms for Tra               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Terry Mcdill to All <=-

 TM> I have the following CD-Roms for trade:

 TM> Nightwatch Interactive
 TM> Digital Dreams
 TM> Southern Beauties
 TM> Lovely Ladies II
 TM> Volcano XXX

 TM> All reasonable offers considered!

Terry, I have the 1993 T&A 2 The Maxx adult disc I will
trade for any of the above (plus a few $ maybe).

Randy



... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: BRIAN ELFERT                           Number: 6532
  To: TOM ROSETTI                              Date: 10/22/93  6:49p
Subj: Adult GIFs on CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  > I am interested in collecting more adult Gifs on CD.
->
-> HotPix 1-5.

You selling? I'm interested in 3-5.  I'm sure you could get a pretty
penny for #1.

Brian


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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 6533
  To: BOB BRODOVSKY                            Date: 10/23/93  4:15a
Subj: CD Encyclopedia for sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Oct 20 00:46>, Bob Brodovsky of 1:203/931 writes:

 BB> MICHAEL Said this about CD Encyclopedia for sale to ALL %a. 
 BB>  
MS>CD-ROMS 
MS>I have a couple copies of Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia for 
MS>Windows for sale. 
MS>Version 1.01  (1992 edition)..........................Best offer 
MS>Version 2.01  (1993 edition, just released)...........Best offer 
MS>If interested, post here or call 1-504-893-7279. 
 BB>  
 BB> I'm intrested... What do ya think there worth? I really have no 
 BB> Idea.. 
New, they go for around $95.00. Looking for around $35.00-$40.00 for the 1992
edition, a little more for the 1993.
Michael Sells

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 6534
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/22/93  7:57p
Subj: Re: BRAND NEW CD-ROM TITLES             Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-
 MS> BUSTY BABES VOL 2 * The FIRST serious contender in the "R"
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Not true! Southern Beauties was first! C'mon, Mike. Geeeze....


... Aunt Em; Hate you.Hate Kansas.Taking dog. Dorothy
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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 6535
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/20/93  1:36p
Subj: Config                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Lee Noga to Dick Huddleston <=-

 LN> In a message to Lee Noga <10-14-93 10:17> Dick Huddleston wrote:

 LN> Not a problem anymore according to Solona, they have a video card test
 LN> in the config area, and if you have VGA it scales it back, so that you
 LN> still can enjoy the disc--Its just a matter of running a different .BAT
 LN> file! 

Thanks for the reply.  Unfortunately, the config file reports that it
can't identify my board (A Paradise 16, which I thought was pretty common)
and I tried all types on the list.  I will try again when I can.  It gives
crazy colors although I CAN tell it is thumbnail sized images!

For the moderator, be advised we are talking about the new SHOW feature on
the - as always - excellent Noga's ROMs. 

I just have a glitch that the tech reps think is not there.  When I change
to SVGA from VGA maybe it will go away or get a different (recognizable)
card.  I think I mentioned I called the help referred to in the info screen.
 Thanks again.




... The Joy of Six
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From: FRANK GRESH                            Number: 6536
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/22/93  7:18p
Subj: Excellent CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

First off, I'd like to let everyone know about the great service
that Mike Shannon of Starvector Software has given.  Less than 1 week
from order to arrival, and this has been repeated 3 times, on 3 seperate
orders.

Second Off, I'd like to recommend Street Atlas Ver 2 to anyone that has
a need for any kind of mapping information.  This CD is the most
complete mapping program I have seen to date.  It's ease of use and
tremendous database are it's biggest asset.  I haven't found anything I
don't like about it yet.  I'd be happy to answer any questions about
this CD that anyone may have.

Frank
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From: MASON DEEVER                           Number: 6537
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/22/93  9:31p
Subj: SCSI Drives                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have several scsi drives available for purchase:

2 IBM 1.2Gb SCSI-2 Drives $975ea
Fujitsu 525Mb SCSI-2 $635
Fujitsu 525Mb SCSI $550
HP 420Mb SCSI-2 $450
Hitachi 250Mb SCSI $265

Please call (602)649-2879 if you are interested.


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From: JIM COYLE                              Number: 6538
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/21/93  5:14p
Subj: New ROM.                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking into getting another ROM drive. I would like it to be external, 
cheap, have resonable access time, and compatible with my external drive that
camew with my Soundblaster multimedia upgrade kit. Can someone help me out? 
Thanks.

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From: RON COLEMAN                            Number: 6539
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/20/93  5:52p
Subj: Adult Cd's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have 2 Adult CD's for sale. 
  Foxes  $20
 Afterdark  $24
Add $3 for UPS ground. 

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From: MATT MAHONEY                           Number: 6540
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/22/93  8:16p
Subj: Night Owl 10                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone know if the Night Owl 10 CD-ROM disc supports FILES.BBS? Thanx. 




                                          -Matt


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From: LARRY HUEGELE                          Number: 6541
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/21/93  8:00p
Subj: For Sale and Wanted                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For Sale:

Time Table of Science and Innovation CD-ROM
          -= Make Offer =-

Wanted:

Shareware CD-ROMS

Please reply here...


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From: JOE LAWRENCE                           Number: 6542
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/22/93  7:11p
Subj: NightOwl 9+10                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Limitited Quantities, NightOwl 9+10  $27.00 ea+tax(in nj)+Shipping.
Call The Wizards Shop of Rainbows at:

                            609-726-1292 voice
                            609-894-4871 bbs

Check or money orders accepted
              

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From: MARC CHIARELLO                         Number: 6543
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 10/16/93 10:32a
Subj: Comptons MM Encyclopedia                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

þ In a message originally to All on 10-09-93, Ed Duchek said:
ED > I have (1) of Comptons Multimedia Encyclopedia's for sale. 
ED > I opened it,
ED > tried it out for about 10 minutes... thought it was great,
ED > but I will not
ED > have a use for this fine CD in the near future.  But do
ED > need the money.
ED > So $40 gets it.  I will include 2-day air if you pre-pay.


ED > Ed Duchek
ED > (210)650-8069

ED > --- GoldED 2.40.P0720
ED >  * Origin:  ----> From The Back Door at 1:387/635.1 <---- 
ED > (1:387/635.1)
Was wondering if you could give me a few specs on the disc, $40 sounds
reasonable but I wanted to see it\f this isn't a special abridged edition
packed with a CD-ROM kit...Thanks..Marc
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From: MARC CHIARELLO                         Number: 6544
  To: MARCIAL MORENO                           Date: 10/21/93  9:21p
Subj: Nightowl 10 is here                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

þ In a message originally to All on 10-13-93, Marcial Moreno said:
MM >                                 CD-ROM DISC's

MM >                   Nightowl 10 ................... $34.50ea
MM >                   Software Vault Vol 2........... $21.00ea
MM >                   Phoenix Vol 4 ................. $24.00ea
MM >                   Shareware Studio III .......... $30.00ea
MM >                   SoundWav I .................... $27.00ea
MM >                   Super Smutware Vol 2 .......... $27.00ea
MM >                   Local Girls 3 in 1 CD ......... $26.00ea
MM >                   Island Girls 3 in 1 CD ........ $26.00ea

MM >     ******* All prices include shipping and handling in the
MM > USA ********
MM >                       CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS ADD 8.25% TAX

MM >                           Check or Money orders to:
MM >                           Mega-ROM SoftWare
MM >                           13724 Saranac Dr.
MM >                           Whittier, CA  90605-4229
MM >                           (310) 941-8074

MM > --- DB 1.53/001663
MM >  * Origin: The Mega-ROM BBS of Whittier, CA   (310)
MM > 944-2327 (1:103/304)
I just paid $14.97 for Phoenix 4.0 from MEI Micro.  Think $24 is a little
high!
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From: MARC CHIARELLO                         Number: 6545
  To: MICHAEL ANDREWS                          Date: 10/21/93  9:27p
Subj: Mitsumi CD Drivers for OS/2 2.1 GA      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

þ In a message originally to All on 10-14-93, Michael Andrews said:
MA > Just D/L'd the New Drivers off of the IBM Support BBS.
MA > FREQ'able here
MA > BTN of MITFX.ZIP. File Size is 14k, Below is an excerpt
MA > from the Docs:












MA > ------------------------------------------------------------

MA > This README describes an OS/2 device driver (MITFX001.ADD)
MA > for the
MA > Mitsumi CD-ROM drives.  The device driver supports the new
MA > FX series of Mitsumi drives: the single speed CRMC-FX001
MA > and the
MA > double-speed CRMC-FX001D.  The device driver also supports
MA > the
MA > older Mitsumi CRMC-LU005.

MA > This device driver does not support the older Mitsumi
MA > CRMC-LU002
MA > CD-ROM drive (also known as the Tandy CDR-1000 or
MA > BSR-6800).

MA > Supported Features
MA > ------------------
MA > The OS/2 Mitsumi CD-ROM device driver (MITFX001.ADD)
MA > supports the
MA > following features:

MA >   * Reads data from CD-ROM discs conforming to the High
MA > Sierra/ISO-9660
MA >     file formats.
MA >   * Plays audio from standard audio CDs or mixed mode
MA > CD-ROM discs
STRANGE!!  I never considered my LU005 and OLD Drive, just because the multi
spin drives are out!
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From: MARC CHIARELLO                         Number: 6546
  To: KURT ANNO                                Date: 10/21/93  9:34p
Subj: ROM DRIVES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

þ In a message originally to All on 10-15-93, Kurt Anno said:
KA > I am currently looking for a rom drive for my daughter. I
KA > want a good drive, but of course, do not want to spend alot
KA > of money. I don't know the difference from a drive that
KA > costs $195 to one that costs $500. Any info would be
KA > greatly appreciated.

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Kurt,
I bought the Mitsumi LU005.  After looking at a LOT of drives, I found this
one is a good investment.  It has a 350ms access time, which is very good for
the price, in fact, I paid $200 for it and its FASTER than SOny drives priced
100 - 200 dollars higher!  It doesn't have those annoying disc caddies, and is
very simple but rugged.  Simply push on the front panel and lift the lid to
load, the whole drive slide out and slides back in for playing.  Its Photo CD
Multisession ready and plays audio CD's as well.
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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 6547
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/14/93  9:35p
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       D i g i t a l   E n t e r p r i s e s   c u s t o m
                    C D R O M   s e r v i c e

We can transfer your programs and data from Tape, Floppy or Hard Disk to
Industry Standard CDROM, which is accessible by any ISO9660 compliant CDROM
reader.


Price schedule:
---------------

  Quantity      Price each
  --------      ----------
    1            $144.00, and $55 per each additional.
  *5-9            $65.00
  *10+            $50.00

* - Quantity 5 and over flat-rate pricing applies to multiple copies
    of the SAME disk.


Shipping:
---------
All orders are sent via UPS ground unless customer specifies a different
method.  Add $5 for UPS Blue label service, and $15 for UPS red label service.

Getting your data to us:
------------------------
We currently support QIC-40 and QIC-80 tapes through the use of a Colorado
DJ-20 tape drive.  We also support streaming tape drives that use DC600/6XXXX
tape.  Floppy disks are accepted, but at a premium of $8/hr of restore time. 
We Also have in the past, accepted a hard disk as the method of transferral.


Naming conventions:
-------------------
One limiting factor of CDROM is the limit that the ISO 9660 standard places on
filenames.  Filenames MUST NOT contain characters other than A-Z, 0-9 or the
"_" underscore character.

We will at your request rename non-compliant files, and files.bbs listings at
no additional cost.

Terms:
------
Prepay for service via certified funds.  Personal checks must clear our bank
before production begins.   Please make your check or money order payable to
"Digital Enterprises".   The following signed statement must accompany all
orders:

=== Cut ---
I certify that the material I am presenting to Digital Enterprises for
transferral to CDROM violates no copyright laws.   The service that Digital
Enterprises provides is a bulk copying operation, and as such they have no
knowledge of the contents thereof.  I assume sole responsibility for the
contents of said CDROM(S).


                                  Signed:___________________________

                                    Date:______________
=== Cut ---


For more information:
---------------------
Contact us by voice, or log onto our BBS, and download the file CDINFO.ZIP. For
those with access to a Fidonet compatible mailer, file request the magic
filename "CDINFO".


Digital Enterprises
125 S. Saginaw
St. Charles, MI 48655
Voice: 517-865-6800  -  BBS: 517-865-6066  -  Fidonet: 1:239/900.0

(C) Copyright 1993, Digital Enterprises

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 6548
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/22/93 11:11a
Subj: CDs                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <10-20-93 08:58> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> I've made the first couple of passes through BBV2 and begun taking
BJ>> notes. Probably take another 1-2 walk-throughs before I'm ready...

Wah! Well, I appreciate the message--Oh, the directory called TMP was put there
by the factory and they were negligent in removing it--I hopped their tail, and
they cut a new master for the next pressing of it--So it was not our doing !
Well, you could have at least said, BB2 is interesting.. or something like
that.......I hate to wait.....sounds like you are going thru it real fine tooth
like--Jeepers, 3 passes before a review....I don't  know if I like this :)

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 6549
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 10/24/93 10:47a
Subj: Re: ADDRESS FOR                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <10-20-93 11:42> Brice Fleckenstein wrote:

BF>>  1) Did you check with the TAX authorities, or just with the
BF>> "Corporation"

It was listed as a corp on the cover, and the lawyer did all the leg work--We
did find out who they were though, so our legal search ended.
Thanks for the input !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 6550
  To: DICK HUDDLESTON                          Date: 10/24/93 10:52a
Subj: Re: Config                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <10-20-93 13:36> Dick Huddleston wrote:

DH>> Thanks for the reply.  Unfortunately, the config file reports that it
DH>> can't identify my board (A Paradise 16, which I thought was pretty
DH>> common)

Call Solana Software, they asked me to notify me of trouble boards, please call
them at 619-291-1533--They are great !

DH>> the - as always - excellent Noga's ROMs.

<blush>.....thanks !

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 6551
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/24/93 10:59a
Subj: Re: BRAND NEW CD-ROM TITLES             Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

In a message to All <10-20-93 23:49> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS>> >BUSTY BABES VOL 2 * The FIRST serious contender in the "R"

Hey Darling, she is a far cry from hard "R", she is a blatant "XX" by rating
standards but does have a nice selection of "R" too :) Thanks for the support !
Sell a million :))))

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: BRIAN NASH                             Number: 6552
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/23/93  8:33p
Subj: Re: Hot Pix                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÿ@REQRR  :Caller has requested a Return Receipt                       N
Lee,
Hi, my name is Brian Nash. I publish The Hack List Newsletter. I'd like
to know everything you can tell me about these illegal files, and also
send you a flyer for the newsletter (I assume you're a CD-ROM
publisher). If you'll give me an address, I'll send it out to you.
Thanks.
Computer SoftShop
P.O. Box 3701
Omaha, Ne. 68103
(402) 556-8793
1-9pm Mon-Sat CST

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6553
  To: PETE CRESSWELL                           Date: 10/24/93 11:59a
Subj: CD LIST 1 OF 5                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PC> Considering the number of BLueWave people out there 
 PC> and the possibility
 
I will try reducing the width and see if that helps.  Thanks for the feedback!

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6554
  To: ANDREW MURPHY                            Date: 10/24/93 12:00p
Subj: cd list 1 of 5                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 AM>   For what it's worth, the amiga never had 360k disks.  They are 880k
 AM> each.  Commodore didn't go with 5.25 disks or 640k memory limitations.


Thanks for the correction.  I will amend it.  Appreciate it.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6555
  To: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529               Date: 10/24/93 12:08p
Subj: new releases                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SF@9> mike, any word on when the next simtel dos and 
 SF@9> hobbes os/2 CDs will be pressed?

Not sure about Simtel, but the new version of Hobbes OS/2 will be out this
week.  We will have it in by the end of the week for $14.50 each.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6556
  To: LANE PETERSON                            Date: 10/24/93 12:17p
Subj: sherlock holmes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LP> also does anyone have either of the sherlock holmes cdroms for sale?


We sell the Sherlock Holmes CD for $16.95 and the Sherlock Holmes Consulting
Detective for $20.95.  800-547-7817 to order.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6557
  To: JOHN ANTHONY                             Date: 10/24/93 12:22p
Subj: Pioneer Cdrom                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JA> I have a Pioneer Cdrom DRM-600A for sale, without cables 800.00 bucks

 JA> Call bbs at 1-503-364-9998

Just a piece of information for you, for what it's worth....the 600A has
dropped in price well over $100 and a brand new one bare can now be had for
less than $700.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6558
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/24/93 12:25p
Subj: PCJ Order                               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 MS> Ron,

 MS> In what country do you reside?  A 4-CD order to 
 MS> most European countries
 MS> would be around $6 by non-insured Airmail, or 
 MS> typically about $10-$13 by
 MS> insured Air Parcel Post.  These are "average" 
 MS> figures, and the numbers do
 MS> vary depending on country and insurance coverage, 
 MS> but $25 sounds a little
 MS> high.  Just curious where you are located.

The gentlemen (far from it BTW), lives in Finland.  4 CDs in jewel cases with
packaging would weigh over 1 pound or about 18-20 ounces.  You need to double
check the figures you quoted here Mike.  20 ounces by uninsured regular airmail
to Finland is $15.77.  The 2 pound rate by insured Air Parcel Post is $16.70
plus $2.40 for insurance for a total of $19.10.  2 pounds by Express Mail which
is insured to $500 is exactly $25 just like I charged the guy that he is
bitching about.  He didn't bother to tell me what method he wanted, and if he
had told me just exactly what he wanted, then I would have sent it that way. 
He is griping because he assumes I was supposed to properly "read his mind", so
he is full of hot air.  Like I explained to him, most choose Express Mail as
the other 2 services take longer to get there.  The price information I quoted
here for shipping is on pages 340-342 of the Issue 11, December 24, 1992 of the
United States Postal Service International Mail Manual.  

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6559
  To: JOHNNY HOLMES                            Date: 10/24/93 12:41p
Subj: wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JH> IF YOU HAVE NEW OR OLD CD DISKES FOR SALE FOR A 
 JH> BBS, THEN PLEASE SEND ME
 JH> PRICES AND INFORMATION ON THEM. I RUN A WILDCAT BBS AND I AM LOOKING
 JH> TO BUY SOME CD DISKES FOR MY BBS CD UNIT.

 JH> SEND INFORMATION TO:   JOHNNY HOLMES
 
We have many good shareware CDs for sale for BBS use.  Give us a call at
615-339-0235 after 5:30 EST and would be glad to discuss them with you and get
you fixed up with one.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6560
  To: JEROME DAUGIRDA                          Date: 10/24/93 12:49p
Subj: CD_ROM CATALOGS                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JD> I am going to be buying a bunch of CD-ROM disks for Christmas presents
 JD> this year. I would appreciate any CD-ROM  sellers sending me their
 JD> latest catalog.

You can get our catalog by calling our BBS at 615-478-2890 HST or 615-479-1047
v.32/14400 and downloading PCJCDS.ZIP.  We have some of the lowest prices
around and most titles in stock.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6561
  To: MARC CHIARELLO                           Date: 10/24/93 12:57p
Subj: Nightowl 10 is here                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MM > 944-2327 (1:103/304)
 MC> I just paid $14.97 for Phoenix 4.0 from MEI Micro.  
 MC> Think $24 is a little high!
 MC> ---
 
That's not a bad price.  We have it for $16.95.  $24 is not all that high
either.  MEI Micro only sells a few shareware CDs that I have ever seen and
probably bought a ton of the few they do have and got a much better price than
most of us get. 

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 6562
  To: MATT MAHONEY                             Date: 10/24/93  1:00p
Subj: Night Owl 10                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MM> Does anyone know if the Night Owl 10 CD-ROM disc 
 MM> supports FILES.BBS? Thanx. 

Yes, the last several Nightowlls have had a Files.BBS in each directory.  We
sell them for $28.95 plus shipping.  800-547-7817 to order.

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From: MATT MAHONEY                           Number: 6563
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 10/24/93  8:25p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

--> Matt Mahoney Quotes a message written by Mark Clardy
--> to All on 10-22-93 00:13 saying:
MC>   Hello, Everyone!   I would like to tell you that Computer Wo
MC> has a new catalog of CD's.  We have greatly increased the amou
MC> titles

MC>  Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! 
MC>  Online Credit Card Ordering Available! 
MC>  (205) 671-0092 - BBS 
MC>  (205) 793-4481 - Voice 
MC>  SysOp - Jim Lambert  CoSysOp - Mark Clardy

Can you send me a copy ofthe CD-ROM catalog? thanx. here is my address:

                         Matt Mahoney
                         58 Hollow Rock Trail
                         Rochester, NY 14612



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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 6564
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/24/93  6:49p
Subj: Re: ratings                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 10-16-93  09:00 Bob Jackson said something about Re: ratings, to which I
reply: 

 LF> ... "You summoned me, Captain?" asked Earl Grey, hotly.
 BJ> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 BJ> Are you a fan of "Tom Swifty's"? How about "spoonerisms"? Puns?

I like a good pun; one of the people I work with specializes in them.


... If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.
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From: ADAM BRIAND                            Number: 6565
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 10/24/93 11:08p
Subj: Cd Catalog                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Mark.  Please send me a catalog with your latest cd's.
 
98 Wilce Dr.
Ajax, Ontario
L1T 3K3
Canada

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From: ADAM BRIAND                            Number: 6566
  To: ROBERT KUMMER                            Date: 10/24/93 11:09p
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested in the Storm 3 cd you have for sale.  If you leave me your
address and the shipping cost (to Canada), I will be glad to get a money order
sent to you immediatly.

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From: GARY COLMAN                            Number: 6567
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 10/24/93  3:53p
Subj: CD-ROM Catalog!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >   Hello, Everyone!   I would like to tell you that Computer Works BBS
 > now has a new catalog of CD's.
 > catalog, just leave your address and we will mail one to you.  If you
 > would like to make an inquiry about a certain or several CD's, just
 > leave me a message.  Thank you for your time!
 >                                                   Mark

Please add me to the list:

Gary Colman
16 Forest Road
Oranjezicht
8001
South Africa

Cheers
  Gary

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From: MEINDERT VAN DER VEER                  Number: 6568
  To: GARY HOFFERMAN                           Date: 10/24/93  2:39p
Subj: Re: Cdrom resellers wanted              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In your great wisdom you wrote the following to All:

GH> Hello to All,
Hi Gary,
GH> We are looking for resellers and system builders who would be
GH> interested in marketing or bundling CDROM software. We are
GH> distributors and brokers of over 400 titles (and growing). Export
GH> orders are our specialty.
I can only compliment you on you excellent service. As an overseas customer, I
am more than satisfied with you company's service.
GH> If you would be interested, please contact me at Consolidated
GH> CDROM: +1.215.276.3657 voice, or by fax at +1.215.276.3854.
Fax me  the details please.
GH> Thank you,
Cheerio
Meindert
P.S. Has the other matter been settled. No problems from this side.

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6569
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/24/93  8:11p
Subj: NOVEMBER SPECIALS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

X#&]%%+fN !  )19AI 



        
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CD-ROM TITLE                             PRICE
------------------------------------------------------------
1001 UTILITIES............................8.00
ABOUT COWS...............................25.00
ADVENTURES IN HEAVEN.....................12.00
ADVENTURES OF WILLY BEAMISH..............18.00
AIRCRAFT ENCYCLOPEDIA,THE................26.00
AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONE BOOK.............21.00
ANECDOTES VOL.1...........................9.00
ANECDOTES VOL.2...........................9.00
ANECDOTES VOL.3...........................9.00
ANIMALS..................................19.00
ARTHUR'S TEACHER TROUBLE.................26.00
AUDUBON'S BIRDS..........................16.00
AUDUBON'S MAMMALS........................16.00
BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SCHOOL...............17.00
BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SPACE................17.00
BATTLE CHESS.............................17.00
BEAUTY AND THE BEAST.....................16.00
BIBLE LIBRARY............................28.00
BIBLES & RELIGION........................11.00
BUSINESS ASSISTANT........................8.00
BUSINESS MASTER..........................16.00
C USERS GROUP LIBRARY....................25.00
CALIFORNIA COLLECTION.....................9.00
CAMERON'S FINE ART CATALOG...............35.00
CAREER OPPORTUNIES.......................26.00
CHESSMASTER M/M..........................18.00
CIA WORLD FACT BOOK......................23.00
CIA WORLD FACT BOOK M/M..................26.00
CICA WINDOWS DISK........................12.00
CLIPART GOLIATH..........................11.00
CLIPART HEAVEN...........................12.00
COATES ART REVIEW : IMPRESSIONISM........26.00
COMPLETE BOOKSHOP........................11.00
COMPOSER QUEST...........................30.00
CONSUMER INFORMATION DISC................26.00
COOKBOOK HEAVEN..........................12.00
DANGER HOT STUFF.........................14.00
DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLES.................11.00
DESKTOP BOOKSHOP.........................11.00
DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES.................11.00
DINOSAUR ADVENTURE.......................26.00
EDUCATION MASTER.........................16.00
ELECTRONIC COOKBOOK......................30.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA MPC VER.1...................40.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA MULTI-MEDIA VER.5...........40.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUND....................11.00
EUROPEAN MONARCHS........................26.00
FAMILY DOCTOR............................19.00
FONT MASTER TWO..........................17.00
FONT MASTER...............................9.00
FONTS FOR THE PROFESSIONAL...............22.00
FRESH ARTE...............................26.00
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CD-ROM TITLE                             PRICE
------------------------------------------------------------
GAME ARENA................................8.00
GAME MASTER..............................16.00
GAME PACK II.............................26.00
GARBO MSDOS/MAC..........................12.00
GIFS GALORE..............................12.00
GREAT CITIES VOLUME 1....................26.00
GREAT CITIES VOLUME 2....................26.00
HAM RADIO................................11.00
HAMCALL..................................38.00
HOLY BIBLE,THE...........................16.00
HOSPITALITY INDEX........................25.00
INTERACTIVE STORY TIME 1.................18.00
INTERACTIVE STORY TIME 2.................18.00
INTERNATIONAL BUSIN. & ECON. ATLAS.......14.00
J SCHUMACHER'S NEW PRAGUE COOKBOOK.......26.00
JETS & PROPS.............................23.00
JOKES & PRANKS............................8.00
JONES IN THE FAST LANE...................18.00
KGB WORLD FACT BOOK......................25.00
KINGS QUEST V............................18.00
KLOTSKI..................................21.00
KODAK PHOTO CD ACCESS SOFTWARE...........14.00
LANGUAGES OF THE WORLD...................35.00
LEARNING ADVENTURE........................8.00
LEARNING HEAVEN..........................12.00
LIBRIS BRITANIA..........................32.00
LOOM.....................................17.00
MACMILLAN DICTIONARY FOR CHILDREN........22.00
MAGAZINE RACK............................26.00
MAVIS BEACON TEACHES TYPING M/M..........19.00
MAYO CLINIC..............................21.00
MIDDLE EAST DIARY........................26.00
MIDI MUSIC SHOP..........................21.00
MIXED-UP MOTHER GOOSE....................18.00
MONKEY ISLAND............................26.00
MOTHER OF ALL CLIPART....................11.00
MPC WIZARD...............................14.00
MS DOS ARCHIVES (SIMTEL 20)..............12.00
NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC MAMMALS..............21.00
NATIONAL PARKS...........................20.00
NORTH AMERICAN FACIMILE (FAX) BOOK.......26.00
NORTH AMERICAN INDIANS...................26.00
OFFICER'S BOOKCASE.......................26.00
ORIGINAL SHAREWARE........................7.00
OS/2 ARCHIVES............................12.00
OUR SOLAR SYSTEM.........................11.00
PC-SIG VERSION 11........................16.00
PC-SIG VERSION 12........................21.00
PC-SIG WORLD OF GAMES....................12.00
PC-SIG HOME & BUSINESS COLLECTION.........9.00
PC-SIG WORLD OF WINDOWS..................12.00
PENTAMINOES..............................25.00
        
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CD-ROM TITLE                             PRICE
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PETER AND THE WOLF.......................16.00
PHARMACIST GUIDE TO DRUGS................26.00
PIXEL GARDEN.............................26.00
PLANT DOCTOR.............................26.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--FRENCH...........25.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--GERMAN...........25.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--ENGLISH..........25.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--JAPANESE.........25.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--SPANISH..........25.00
PROGRAMMER'S ROM.........................26.00
PROJECT GUTENBURG........................18.00
PUBLIQUE ARTE............................26.00
PUBLISH-IT...............................19.00
Q & A....................................45.00
QRZ HAM RADIO............................12.00
RBBS IN A BOX VERSION 3.1................26.00
REFERENCE LIBRARY........................18.00
ROGER EBERT MOVIE COMPANION..............26.00
SCOUNTING REPORT 92......................26.00
SEALS OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.............26.00
SECRET WEAPONS OF THE LUFTWAFFE..........26.00
SELECTWARE................................8.00
SHAKESPEARE..............................16.00
SHAREWARE GOLD II VOL.2 #1...............26.00
SHAREWARE HEAVEN.........................12.00
SHAREWARE ONLINE.........................21.00


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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6570
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/24/93  8:11p
Subj: NOVEMBER SPECIALS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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SHAREWARE ONLINE VOL.#2..................21.00
SHERLOCK CONSULTING DETECTIVE............17.00
SHERLOCK HOLMES..........................16.00
SO MUCH SCREENWARE.......................26.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 2......................12.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3......................18.00
SOFTWARE VAULT VOL.2.....................12.00
SOUND SENSATIONS.........................11.00
SOURCE CD-ROM............................18.00
SPACE ADVENTURE..........................26.00
SPACE QUEST IV...........................18.00
SPACE SERIES-APOLLO......................26.00
STELLER 7................................18.00
STRAIGHT FROM HEAVEN.....................12.00
STREET ATLAS USA.........................90.00
TAO OF COW...............................26.00
TECHNOTOOLS..............................11.00
TEMPRA PHOTO CD ACCESS SOFTWARE..........14.00
TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES.................26.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-SCIENCE............21.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-BUS.& POLITICS.....21.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-ARTS & ENTERTAIN...21.00
TOO MANY TYPEFONTS.......................11.00
U.S. ATLAS M/M...........................16.00
U.S. ATLAS WITH AUTOMAP..................21.00
U.S. CIVICS..............................26.00

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CD-ROM TITLE                             PRICE

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6571
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/24/93  8:17p
Subj: NOVEMBER CATALOG PG.2                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FOR THESE LOW PRICES YOU MUST ORDER AT LEAST 10 CD'S
MIX OR MATCH
SHIPPING $8.00 FLAT FEE
I ACCEPT ONLY CHECKS OR MONEY ORDERS AT THIS TIME
SEND ORDERS TO:
STEVE GREENO
2508 AVENIDA REGULO
TUCSON AZ. 85710
FAX 1-602-292-0497

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From: JOHN RUIZ                              Number: 6572
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/23/93  6:30p
Subj: CICA MS WINDOWS CDROM 4SA               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Thousand of programs for Microsoft  Windows from the CICA
        collection.  Utilities, programming tools, fonts, icons, source
        codes, technical documents, games, and plenty of demo of Windows
        programs.  Dated August 1993.    BBS ready.

        I am not a window user and will sell this CD-ROM disk for
        $20.00 plus s/h of $2.90 fast mail. (US FUNDS)

        If you are interested please call 206-226-2018 or leave e-mail.

        John Ruiz

cc: ALL

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From: JOHN RUIZ                              Number: 6573
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/23/93  6:31p
Subj: Panasonic 562b Driver                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

My 562b CDROM will not recognize Drive Name MVCD001 when I am installing
with SBCD driver that is MSCD001.  On opening is saying that the drive
is not ready ect  ABORT or RETRY.  It is also looking for CDMKE43.sys or
something to that.  The opening screen say it is a Matsushita CDROM
562-x.  I already tried using a install disk from Creative Lab Omin
kit.  The autoexec.bat and config.sys has no errors.  Is there a
difference in MVCD001  and MSCD001??  Also I think I need a driver by
the file name CDMKE43.SYS.   Again I was told that the CDROM can use the
SBCD.SYS install disk.  But it won't work.  Thanking all in advance.
John Ruiz.....Yes I have  RTFM....SITD
***
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From: HEATHER ANN @ 910/114                  Number: 6574
  To: JARED MARTIN                             Date: 10/22/93  2:20p
Subj: Re: Battle Chess Enhanced               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The Battle Chess enhanced is suppose to have better quality sounds also, it 
runs faster than the average joe on disks.
Another thing, if you are interested in chess, Software Toolworks is coming 
out with Star Wars Chess in November.

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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 6575
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 10/25/93  2:20p
Subj: Off-Topic, On-Target                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RA>   The dealers want to wimp-out because of government pressure, well, It
  >applies to the SysOps also. If you want my business, (and that of many
  >people I know), you will continue to sell adult materials. We will
  >not knowingly purchase any computer equipment, software, etc, from
  >a dealer that has quit selling adult materials.

JL>Rusty, that is about the silliest message I have read in a while!  You
JL>can put Computer Works in your little black book of businesses NOT to
JL>deal with.  My intention is to protect myself and my family from the
JL>humiliation of going to jail for breaking pornography laws.  The law is
JL>new in this industry, and a lot of things are being ironed out now.
JL>Until the laws are clearly defined as to what obscene really is, I will
JL>not be carrying adult titles anymore.  If you want to call me a wimp, so
JL>be it.  I call it protecting my future.

Hi Jim,

     I run 24 cds on my bbs none are adult. No one is sure at this time what
is a legal adult cd and one that is not. I love running my bbs BUT I'm not
going to lose all I work for over a adult cd. Your Numbers is in my book
for future calls on cds I like to deal with people who think like you.

                                                 Good Luck Jim

Tom Miller
___
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From: RICHARD WICKER                         Number: 6576
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/24/93  2:43p
Subj: Amiga Encyclopedia                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I seem to remember the Amiga CD-ROM drives being sold with an encyclopedia,
But I cannot remember if it was Grolier's or Compton's.  Does anyone know
which it was, and WHERE CAN I GET IT????  Anybody got one they want to
unload?


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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 6577
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 10/25/93  4:41p
Subj: win roms                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Boris

 > Red, there will be a NEW ONE out soon that is way
 > better than most of
 > the window cd's out there right now!

 > Interested, give us a call at 216-225-32663 anytime
                                         ^^^^^ <g>
> and we'll be happy to assist you further.
You were the first to reply so looking forward to more info

 > BTW: Expected release date....2 weeks or less.

 Can you give us a hint as to who is doing it up

..Red..

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From: ROBBIE BUNCH                           Number: 6578
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 10/25/93  8:51a
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Catalog!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mark Clardy to All <=-

 MC> Hello, Everyone!   I would like to tell you that Computer Works now
 MC> has a new catalog of CD's.  We have greatly increased the amount of
 MC> titles available to order.  We now have 675 CD's in our catalog....  
 .......
 MC> Also, we now have Hardware in our Catalog, so, if you would like a
 MC> copy of our NEW catalog, just leave your address and we will mail one
 MC> to you.  
         
        I would like a catalog.
        My address is:

               Robbie Bunch
               2642 Steppington St.
               Grand Prairie, TX.
               75052-4004
        Thanks.



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From: ROBBIE BUNCH                           Number: 6579
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/25/93  9:30a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

     Mike, I would like one of your catalogs. We recently purchased a Multi-
     Media PC and would like to know what CD's are out there.
     Also, can you make any suggestions as to what are good CD's to purchase 
     for a family?
     
     My address is:

     Robbie Bunch
     2642 Steppington St.
     Grand Prairie, TX
     75052-4004

     Thanks

     Robbie

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From: KAWAI WONG                             Number: 6580
  To: GARY HOFFERMAN                           Date: 10/25/93  1:24a
Subj: Cdrom resellers wanted                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    * In a message originally to Gary Hofferman, John Ricker said:

JR> GH|o| We are looking for resellers and system builders who
JR> would be interested
JR>   |o| marketing or bundling CDROM software. We are
JR> distributors and brokers of
JR>   |o| 400 titles (and growing). Export orders are our
JR> specialty.

    A friend of mine is interested in selling CD-ROM software, can you send him
more info...  His address is:

                        Mark Smith
                        305 Slayton Drive
                        Madison, TN 37115-2335

Thanx.

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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 6581
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 10/24/93 11:40p
Subj: Re: Games wanted.                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I do have the disk version of Indy FOA for $15 plus $2.90 shipping.

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From: CHRIS WISE                             Number: 6582
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/24/93 10:34p
Subj: 7th Guest for trade!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like to trade 7th Guest with all the bells and whistles (since I
have completed it!) to anyone with a pro phone residential (must be the
6-8 cd collection).  I will consider dropping in some cash on the deal
also (since I have seen these going for a few dollars more than the 7th
guest.  This comes with the video and all packaging (still think I have
the registration card also).  Let me know if anyone is interested.
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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 6583
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/25/93  1:16a
Subj: CD ROMs                                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MS> draw your own conclusions.  I've been using Hitachi drives
MS> since 1991, and
MS> they've never let me down.
 
Where is the cheapest place to get caddies for Hitachi CDR3500 drives?  Thanks
in advance for your help.
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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 6584
  To: DAVID ROBERTS                            Date: 10/25/93  1:35a
Subj: Hitachi CDROMs                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Weren't you selling your Hitachi CDROMs?  Do you have all four? Would you
accept $400 plus shipping for the four drives, cable, controller and four
caddies?
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From: HAL SINGER                             Number: 6585
  To: STEVE EVERLEY                            Date: 10/24/93  9:02p
Subj: Re:                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Phillips Model CDD 521 is a great one!  It records CD-ROM (XA), Photo CD,
CD-1, and also audio CD's.  It sells for around $5,000. TPW in Placentia,
California handles it. (800-333-3085)   Your welcome......

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From: DAVID NGHIEM                           Number: 6586
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/24/93  6:39p
Subj: ADULT CD-ROM SITUATION                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I see a lot of discussion here concerning Adult CD-ROMs, i.e.
the sale of, display of on BBS.  They are, however, discontiguous
and confusing to follow.  Can someone please help me sort this
problem for me by answering these questions:

1.   Is selling Adult CD-ROMs illegal?

2.   Some sysops have Adult CD-ROM access.  Are the CD's they have
     licensed for BBS use?  I would think many of the GIF's are
     copyrighted and in violation of copyrights.

3.   Are there any Adult CD-ROMs that are licensed specifically
     for use on a BBS for a sysop?  I think "Giffy Gold",
     "Busty Babes II", and "Amateur Models" are okay for use but
     am not sure.

Thanks for your time.



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From: BARRY CODRON                           Number: 6587
  To: ROBERT MOORE                             Date: 10/25/93  7:56a
Subj: caddies                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Robert, I can get you a bunch of used (but perfectly good) caddies for about $5
apiece shipped as long as you will prepay.
Let me know if you want me to recheck availability and quantity remaining.
Barry (916-988-4673)


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From: BARRY CODRON                           Number: 6588
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 10/25/93  7:59a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mark, please send me one of your catalogues:
Barry Codron (dba Computer Users' Assistance)
5236 Long Canyon Drive
Fair Oaks, CA 95628

Thanks.
Barry (916-988-4673)

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From: BARRY CODRON                           Number: 6589
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 10/25/93  8:02a
Subj: Telephone Directory                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jim, any discount available on this set?  It's exactly what I am looking for,
but I hoped to find it cheaper (frankly, I DID find it a few cents cheaper
excluding shipping, but thought I try you too).
I'm a local (CA) reseller and might be able to help you push more from this
part of the country, if that helps.
Thanks,
Barry (916-988-4673)
P.S. Pls send catalogue:
Barry Codron (dbs Computer Users' Assistance)
5236 Long Canyon Drive
Fair Oaks, CA 95628

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From: BARRY CODRON                           Number: 6590
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/25/93  8:14a
Subj: PRE-ORDER OS/2BOX                       Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike, please send a catalogue:

Barry Codron (dba Computer Users' Assistance)
5236 Long Canyon Drive
Fair Oaks, CA 95628

Thanks,
Barry (916-988-4673)


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From: BARRY CODRON                           Number: 6591
  To: PATRICK SHEN                             Date: 10/25/93  8:18a
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Patrick, if you still haven't sold the Business Phone CD, please give me a
call.  I'll definitely buy it.
Thanks,
Barry (916-988-4673)

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From: MARCIAL MORENO                         Number: 6592
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/24/93  9:06p
Subj: Cd-rom disc sale!!!!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                                CD-ROM DISC's

                  Clipart Goliath ............... $21.00ea
                  Cookbook Heaven ............... $23.00ea
                  Font Master Vol I ............. $21.00ea
                  Font Master Vol II ............ $26.00ea
                  Games 1993 .................... $27.00ea
                  Games For DOS ................. $21.00ea
                  Games For Windows Vol I ....... $21.00ea
                  Games For Windows Vol II ...... $21.00ea
                  Games For Windows Dual Pack ... $24.00ea
                  Gameware Collection............ $26.00ea
                  Gigabyte Gold ................. $29.00ea
                  Nightowl 10 ................... $32.00ea
                  Phoenix Vol 4 ................. $20.00ea
                  Software Vault Vol 2........... $20.00ea
                  SoundWav I .................... $26.00ea
                  Shareware Studio III .......... $28.00ea
                  Windows 1993 .................. $27.00ea
                  Windows Shareware Gold Vol III. $25.00ea

                                 Adult CD's

                  Debbie Does Dallas ............ $38.00ea
                  Digital Dreams ................ $29.00ea
                  Deep Throat ................... $38.00ea
                  Exotic Girls .................. $27.00ea
                  Extreme Delight ............... $28.00ea
                  Girls of Vivid Vol 2 .......... $39.00ea
                  Hacker Whacker Fun Pack ....... $24.00ea
                  High Volume Nudes ............. $33.00ea
                  Island Girls 3 in 1 CD ........ $23.00ea
                  Local Girls 3 in 1 CD ......... $23.00ea
                  Mystic Of The Orient .......... $39.00ea
                  New Machine CD Adult Sampler .. $14.00ea
                  Super Smutware Vol 2 .......... $27.00ea

    ******* All prices INCLUDE SHIPPING and HANDLING in the USA ********
                      CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS ADD 8.25% TAX

                          Check or Money orders to:
                          Mega-ROM SoftWare
                          13724 Saranac Dr.
                          Whittier, CA  90605-4229
                          (310) 941-8074

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From: DAVE BACHMANN                          Number: 6593
  To: JEFF HUBERT                              Date: 10/24/93  9:40p
Subj: CD ROMs                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jeff Hubert offers the following advice:

 JH> Double speed is NOT EXPENSIVE anymore because of more competetion.
 JH> Mitsumi just came out with a double speed drive that is much less
 JH> than any other double speed cd-rom.
 JH> Look for the mitsumi double-speed and it should be under $300 much
 JH> less than say the NEC doublespeed($550)

Much Thanx, Jeff.  DoubleSpeed it shall be.  The brand is still in
question, tho, as is the price range.  Unfortunately I'm shopping in
Mulrooney Loonies, and things are a tad more expensive up here.

Dave
... A seminar on Time Travel will be held 2 weeks ago
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From: DAVE BACHMANN                          Number: 6594
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/24/93  9:42p
Subj: CD ROMs                                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike Shannon offers his wisdom:

 MS> The only input I have is that 90% of the complaints we get regarding
 MS> "read errors" and the like, come from owners of Mitsumi drives.  You
 MS> can draw your own conclusions.  I've been using Hitachi drives since
 MS> 1991, and they've never let me down.

Much thanx, Mike.  I'm listening in on as many echoes as possible to
try and find out what the experiences are.  I don't like shopping, so
I do it thoroughly and don't have to do it again.

Dave
... (A)bort (R)etry (I)nfluence with large hammer.
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 6595
  To: LARRY HUEGELE                            Date: 10/25/93  7:21a
Subj: For Sale and Wanted                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LH>Wanted:

LH>Shareware CD-ROMS

CD-ROMS for Sale

Q&A 4.0 from Symantec ..........................  $39 pending
Magazine Rack ..................................  $15
Romware Vol 2 No 2 Windows .....................  $10
Top 101 Multimedia Shareware ...................  $12
Sherlock Holmes on Disk ........................  $19
CD-ROM Premier .................................  $14
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $19
Toolworks US Atlas and Automap .................  $24
Toolworks World Atlas ..........................  $24
IBM Ultimedia Tool Series Multimedia Sampler CD   $19 pending
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $69
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $10
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $19

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer


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From: MIKE SHEPARD                           Number: 6596
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/23/93 10:24p
Subj: ???                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I must assume that my first post never made it out, I really doubt you don't
answer your mail Lee. I asked about the update to PowerPak Gold. Can you tell
us if there is in fact going to be a newer one or if it is now a dead issue??
It was to out last summer but as most of us here in sysop land know things
happen to change plans. I myself would love to see an updated disc.
 Thanks Much
  Mike

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From: LORI SMITH                             Number: 6597
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/23/93 11:34a
Subj: Re: Hot Pix                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN*>No, 'Ecstasy' is owned by us--Their title is Nix Pix I, and all the adult
LN*>titles are illegal for either copyright or obscenity violations except for
LN*>'Giffy Gold', Busty Babes Vol II, and Amateur Models--Hope this helps.
LN*>These 3 are licensed collections for sysops use--and all XX disc (no
LN*>penetration).

        But what about the original disk that the person this was
sent to asked about?  Ecstasy Software  Hot Pic's Volume 1????
My disk has a disclaimer on it, that reads:
        "This CD-ROM contains images originated and owned by NixPix
Windy City Adult Club via BBS (701)564-1069.  This material is included
with the permission of NPWC and MAY NOT be REPRODUCED for distribution
or sale but may be placed on-line on any BBS.  Florida Lion's Den, Inc.
(904)789-2377 the CD-ROM producer's have acquired the right."
        I am curious as to how come it wasn't listed as one of the
legal disks.  Any info would be most helpful!
        Thanks
                                +Lori+

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From: KURT ANNO                              Number: 6598
  To: RICHIE NEBB                              Date: 10/24/93  7:27p
Subj: ROM DRIVES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the information. I feel sort of stupid, kinda behind the times as
far as this subject is concerned, but any help is graetly appreciated!!
Thanks again!!

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From: ROB MCINTYRE                           Number: 6599
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/25/93  6:01a
Subj: cd list 2 of 5                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Well, i've already got the first version and I want the next. Don't want to
repay $24.00.

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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 6600
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 10/25/93 11:30a
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Catalog!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send a copy of your CDROM catalog to:
    Ellen Cotton
    1105 N.W. 6th Place
    Moore, OK 73170
                 ....thanks!

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From: KAWAI WONG                             Number: 6601
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/25/93  8:23p
Subj: Swimwear CD needed!!!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÿ@ORIGIN :MicroSolutions BBS-(615) 868-3163 USR v32b/v42b (1:116/109) N
        I am looking for a Swimwear CD called Swimwear 1993 for my BBS.
I have called both Boris and Groupware but neither one has it.  Can somebody
tell me where can I get one (used one is fine)??  Thanx.
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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 6602
  To: JOHN THOMPSON                            Date: 10/26/93  2:39a
Subj: Simtel 20                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting John Thompson to Joe Rinehart<=- 
 -=> Simtel 20
-=> 10-11-93  11:00 

 JR>  Simtel 20  pr  19.00
        Price was lowered to $13.05

 JT> How old is the SIMTEL-20 CD?
        Humm, good question.
 JT> Do you plan on carrying the updates as
 JT> they become available?
        YES, as long as our distributors make them available, they can be
ordered & here in three days
 JT> As I recall, a new one should be due out in
 JT> November...
        They may be but I don't have them on my list of coming releases.

        Thanks for asking.  By the first of the month we should have our new
list completed with many new & improved titles.  Our currrent list can always
be downloaded from our 24 hour support bbs at (216) 296-4446, or you can call
(216) 296-9831 & we'll put you on our list.

        Joe Rinehart
        1:157/479


... We are NOT connected with the West Branch Connection in any way!
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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 6603
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/26/93  2:54a
Subj: Night Owl 10 @ $29.70                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                            NIGHT OWL 10 SPECIAL!
        This release is so hot, it has limited availablity.  If you want in
line to get this Hot Release it'll cost $29.70!  If you are a sysop, we will
grant a 10% Sysop discount on any of our titles including this Flaming hot
release!
  Add $2.90 for shipping 2 lbs, 2nd day Express, for a total of $32.60
Make Checks payable to Carl Knorr or Joe Rinehart, $5.00 C.O.D. charge,
Visa/MC not available on discounted items:)
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 766 cd-rom disc titles available)
FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176 - WWIVNet 2@2659
Joe Rinehart                   Voice: (216) 296-9831
5400 Lakewood Rd.              Data/fax: (216) 296-GIGO(4446) ZyXEL 16.8
Ravenna, Ohio 44266-9565       INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME

... If you can't find it - Call up config.sys (r) - (216) 296-4446
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From: MARK ELSON                             Number: 6604
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/26/93  6:58a
Subj: CD's, I'm looking for CDs               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike,

Did you get my order for the busty babes vol 2 and the new OS/2 disk
that is coming out???

if not  I would like one of each sent COD.

Mark Elson
PO Box 58057
Dallas, Tx  75258


Thanks
Mark


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From: BRIAN ELFERT                           Number: 6605
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/24/93  3:48p
Subj: Re: Hot Pix                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> No, 'Ecstasy' is owned by us--Their title is Nix Pix I, and all the a
-> titles are illegal for either copyright or obscenity violations excep
-> 'Giffy Gold', Busty Babes Vol II, and Amateur Models--Hope this helps
-> These 3 are licensed collections for sysops use--and all XX disc (no
-> penetration).

So these three discs have gotten permission to use every picture on
their discs?  I assume no penetration means no pictures of couples
"doing it".  Exactly what are they doing in the pictures?  I'm
interested in buying three new adult discs soon and will find someone to
buy these three from if the content is right.

Brian


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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 6606
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/25/93 11:48p
Subj: Re: CD Encyclopedia for s               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> CD-ROMS
 MS> I have a couple copies of Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia for
 MS> Windows for sale.
 MS> Version 1.01  (1992 edition)..........................Best offer
 MS> Version 2.01  (1993 edition, just released)...........Best offer
 MS> If interested, post here or call 1-504-893-7279.

Michael Sells

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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 6607
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/25/93  9:45a
Subj: Mitsumi CD 4Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For Sale: Mitsumi LU005 CD ROM drive. Still in box - hasn't been
used. Includes interface card, software, manuals, cables, etc.

I had a drive which developed problems, so sent it back for repairs.
The dealer chose to send a new drive rather than repair the old one,
however. While it was gone, I decided to get a different faster drive
for my system at home and put the Mitsumi in a work machine at my
husband's company, but it turns out that he doesn't need/want it
there. So here I am with a drive I don't really need.

Must sell as "used" since the warranty was on my original drive and
doesn't transfer to this one.

Will sell for $150 (includes postage) or best offer received by
11/5/93. Leave message here, or call me at 913-888-5201 ext.257
(8a-4p Central time, or leave voice mail at my extension if after
hours).

-hk
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From: JONATHAN MCGIRR                        Number: 6608
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 10/25/93  7:36a
Subj: PHOTO CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> >Can Kodak photo CD pictures be  converted to the .GIF format
->
-> Yes. I think Tempra will handle this - if not, it will at least get t
-> format that VPIC can read (.PCX as I recall).
->
->  Graphics Workshop is supposed to have added Photo CD support in a re
-> version.
->

Try ImageWizard. Tempra is kinda buggy. Imagewizard will definately do
the conversion, and allow you to modify the image easily.


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From: DANIEL PARDUE                          Number: 6609
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 10/25/93  8:27p
Subj: CD catalog                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send a copy of your catalog to:
Daniel Pardue
29 Melrose Dr.
Marrero, LA 70072

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From: DANIEL PARDUE                          Number: 6610
  To: JOHN RUIZ                                Date: 10/25/93  9:00p
Subj: Panasonic 562b Driver                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > My 562b CDROM will not recognize Drive Name MVCD001
 > when I am installing
 > with SBCD driver that is MSCD001.  On opening is
 > saying that the drive
 > is not ready ect  ABORT or RETRY.  It is also looking
I installed the same kit. The drivers you need are sbcd.sys and mscdex.exe.
Modify paths as nesseccary.
In your config.sys you should have the line:

C:\SBCD\SBCD.SYS /P:250 /D:MSCD001 /T:1 /S:AO

 The /P option should point to the address of the controller you are using.
(This is what gave me problems). In my case I am running it off my SB Pro SB
Pro which is set up at the default address of 220H yours my vary, check to see
address your SB is using and put the appropriate address in. If not using
the SB controller, point the address to the address of the separate controller
included in the kit.

In your autoexec.bat you should have the line:
 C:SBCD\MSCDEX.EXE /V /D:MSCD001 /M:15

I hope that helps. It is a really nice drive

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From: DANNY BANISTER                         Number: 6611
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/24/93 11:31p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 2/3                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MS>Electronic Cookbook (New!)....33.00
MS>Electronic Home Library.......29.00

Mike, can you tell me what are the contents of these two CDs?

Danny


Internet:  4403502@mcimail.com

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6612
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/25/93  6:36a
Subj: NOVEMBER CATALOG PG.1                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

X#&]%%+fN !  )19AI 



        
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CD-ROM TITLE                             PRICE
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1001 UTILITIES............................8.00
ABOUT COWS...............................25.00
ADVENTURES IN HEAVEN.....................12.00
ADVENTURES OF WILLY BEAMISH..............18.00
AIRCRAFT ENCYCLOPEDIA,THE................26.00
AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONE BOOK.............21.00
ANECDOTES VOL.1...........................9.00
ANECDOTES VOL.2...........................9.00
ANECDOTES VOL.3...........................9.00
ANIMALS..................................19.00
ARTHUR'S TEACHER TROUBLE.................26.00
AUDUBON'S BIRDS..........................16.00
AUDUBON'S MAMMALS........................16.00
BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SCHOOL...............17.00
BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SPACE................17.00
BATTLE CHESS.............................17.00
BEAUTY AND THE BEAST.....................16.00
BIBLE LIBRARY............................28.00
BIBLES & RELIGION........................11.00
BUSINESS ASSISTANT........................8.00
BUSINESS MASTER..........................16.00
C USERS GROUP LIBRARY....................25.00
CALIFORNIA COLLECTION.....................9.00
CAMERON'S FINE ART CATALOG...............35.00
CAREER OPPORTUNIES.......................26.00
CHESSMASTER M/M..........................18.00
CIA WORLD FACT BOOK......................23.00
CIA WORLD FACT BOOK M/M..................26.00
CICA WINDOWS DISK........................12.00
CLIPART GOLIATH..........................11.00
CLIPART HEAVEN...........................12.00
COATES ART REVIEW : IMPRESSIONISM........26.00
COMPLETE BOOKSHOP........................11.00
COMPOSER QUEST...........................30.00
CONSUMER INFORMATION DISC................26.00
COOKBOOK HEAVEN..........................12.00
DANGER HOT STUFF.........................14.00
DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLES.................11.00
DESKTOP BOOKSHOP.........................11.00
DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES.................11.00
DINOSAUR ADVENTURE.......................26.00
EDUCATION MASTER.........................16.00
ELECTRONIC COOKBOOK......................30.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA MPC VER.1...................40.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA MULTI-MEDIA VER.5...........40.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUND....................11.00
EUROPEAN MONARCHS........................26.00
FAMILY DOCTOR............................19.00
FONT MASTER TWO..........................17.00
FONT MASTER...............................9.00
FONTS FOR THE PROFESSIONAL...............22.00
FRESH ARTE...............................26.00
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CD-ROM TITLE                             PRICE
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GAME ARENA................................8.00
GAME MASTER..............................16.00
GAME PACK II.............................26.00
GARBO MSDOS/MAC..........................12.00
GIFS GALORE..............................12.00
GREAT CITIES VOLUME 1....................26.00
GREAT CITIES VOLUME 2....................26.00
HAM RADIO................................11.00
HAMCALL..................................38.00
HOLY BIBLE,THE...........................16.00
HOSPITALITY INDEX........................25.00
INTERACTIVE STORY TIME 1.................18.00
INTERACTIVE STORY TIME 2.................18.00
INTERNATIONAL BUSIN. & ECON. ATLAS.......14.00
J SCHUMACHER'S NEW PRAGUE COOKBOOK.......26.00
JETS & PROPS.............................23.00
JOKES & PRANKS............................8.00
JONES IN THE FAST LANE...................18.00
KGB WORLD FACT BOOK......................25.00
KINGS QUEST V............................18.00
KLOTSKI..................................21.00
KODAK PHOTO CD ACCESS SOFTWARE...........14.00
LANGUAGES OF THE WORLD...................35.00
LEARNING ADVENTURE........................8.00
LEARNING HEAVEN..........................12.00
LIBRIS BRITANIA..........................32.00
LOOM.....................................17.00
MACMILLAN DICTIONARY FOR CHILDREN........22.00
MAGAZINE RACK............................26.00
MAVIS BEACON TEACHES TYPING M/M..........19.00
MAYO CLINIC..............................21.00
MIDDLE EAST DIARY........................26.00
MIDI MUSIC SHOP..........................21.00
MIXED-UP MOTHER GOOSE....................18.00
MONKEY ISLAND............................26.00
MOTHER OF ALL CLIPART....................11.00
MPC WIZARD...............................14.00
MS DOS ARCHIVES (SIMTEL 20)..............12.00
NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC MAMMALS..............21.00
NATIONAL PARKS...........................20.00
NORTH AMERICAN FACIMILE (FAX) BOOK.......26.00
NORTH AMERICAN INDIANS...................26.00
OFFICER'S BOOKCASE.......................26.00
ORIGINAL SHAREWARE........................7.00
OS/2 ARCHIVES............................12.00
OUR SOLAR SYSTEM.........................11.00
PC-SIG VERSION 11........................16.00
PC-SIG VERSION 12........................21.00
PC-SIG WORLD OF GAMES....................12.00
PC-SIG HOME & BUSINESS COLLECTION.........9.00
PC-SIG WORLD OF WINDOWS..................12.00
PENTAMINOES..............................25.00
        
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CD-ROM TITLE                             PRICE
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PETER AND THE WOLF.......................16.00
PHARMACIST GUIDE TO DRUGS................26.00
PIXEL GARDEN.............................26.00
PLANT DOCTOR.............................26.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--FRENCH...........25.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--GERMAN...........25.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--ENGLISH..........25.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--JAPANESE.........25.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--SPANISH..........25.00
PROGRAMMER'S ROM.........................26.00
PROJECT GUTENBURG........................18.00
PUBLIQUE ARTE............................26.00
PUBLISH-IT...............................19.00
Q & A....................................45.00
QRZ HAM RADIO............................12.00
RBBS IN A BOX VERSION 3.1................26.00
REFERENCE LIBRARY........................18.00
ROGER EBERT MOVIE COMPANION..............26.00
SCOUNTING REPORT 92......................26.00
SEALS OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.............26.00
SECRET WEAPONS OF THE LUFTWAFFE..........26.00
SELECTWARE................................8.00
SHAKESPEARE..............................16.00
SHAREWARE GOLD II VOL.2 #1...............26.00
SHAREWARE HEAVEN.........................12.00
SHAREWARE ONLINE.........................21.00


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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6613
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/25/93  6:36a
Subj: NOVEMBER CATALOG PG.1                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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SHAREWARE ONLINE VOL.#2..................21.00
SHERLOCK CONSULTING DETECTIVE............17.00
SHERLOCK HOLMES..........................16.00
SO MUCH SCREENWARE.......................26.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 2......................12.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3......................18.00
SOFTWARE VAULT VOL.2.....................12.00
SOUND SENSATIONS.........................11.00
SOURCE CD-ROM............................18.00
SPACE ADVENTURE..........................26.00
SPACE QUEST IV...........................18.00
SPACE SERIES-APOLLO......................26.00
STELLER 7................................18.00
STRAIGHT FROM HEAVEN.....................12.00
STREET ATLAS USA.........................90.00
TAO OF COW...............................26.00
TECHNOTOOLS..............................11.00
TEMPRA PHOTO CD ACCESS SOFTWARE..........14.00
TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES.................26.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-SCIENCE............21.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-BUS.& POLITICS.....21.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-ARTS & ENTERTAIN...21.00
TOO MANY TYPEFONTS.......................11.00
U.S. ATLAS M/M...........................16.00
U.S. ATLAS WITH AUTOMAP..................21.00
U.S. CIVICS..............................26.00

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6614
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/25/93  6:38a
Subj: NOVEMBER CATALOG PG.2                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

X#&]%%+fN !  )19AI 



 
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CD-ROM TITLE                             PRICE
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U.S. HISTORY.............................30.00
U.S. PRESIDENTS..........................26.00
U.S./WORLD ATLAS.........................19.00
U.S.A. STATE FACTBOOK,THE................26.00
U.S.A. WARS:CIVIL WAR....................26.00
U.S.A. WARS:DESERT STORM.................26.00
U.S.A. WARS:KOREA........................26.00
U.S.A. WARS:VIETNAM......................26.00
U.S.A. WARS:WORLD WAR II.................26.00
VGA SPECTRUM..............................7.00
VGA SPECTRUM 2...........................18.00
VISIONS OF SATURN........................16.00
WHERE IS CARMEN SAN DIEGO................25.00
WILD PLACES..............................14.00
WINDOWARE................................11.00
WINDOWS MASTER...........................16.00
WING COMMANDER / ULTIMA VI...............19.00
WORLD ATLAS M/M..........................16.00
WORLD OF FLIGHT..........................30.00
WORLD OF TRAINS..........................30.00
WORLD TRAVELER...........................11.00
WORLD VIEW...............................14.00
................................................
*** NEW TITLES *** NEW TITLES *** NEW TITLES ***
20TH CENTURY VIDEO ALMANAC...............18.00
BEST OF MICROPROSE.......................19.00
CHAOS FRACTALS AND MAGIC.................26.00
DINOSAURS................................22.00
FRACTOOLS................................26.00
FRACTUNES................................26.00
GAMEWARE COLLECTION......................18.00
GARDENING................................11.00
GUINESS DISC OF RECORDS 1993.............21.00
LEGAL GUIDE..............................11.00
MAD DOG MACREE...........................35.00
MULTIMEDIA AUDIO COLLECTION..............22.00
NEWSWEEK INTERACTIVE.....................21.00
PIER 3...................................22.00
PRECISION MAPPING........................65.00
PUBLISHERS PARADISE......................21.00
REEL CLIPS...............................26.00
SLEEPING BEAUTY..........................16.00
SOUNDWARE COLLECTION.....................18.00
SPACE SHUTTLE............................18.00
WIN PLATINUM.............................16.00








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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 6615
  To: DAN PROCIV                               Date: 10/23/93  4:11p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I'm looking for the best price on a cd rom, sound card combo.
-> 200ms seek time and at least 300kb per sec transfer.
-> 16 bit sound card.
DP> Chris, I have the following bundles available here at the
DP> CD-Machine. Call us anytime for quotes, questions or a catalog at
DP> Toshiba XM-3401B. 200ms access, SCSI-2, Photo CD compatible,
DP> 330kb/sec transfer, 256k buffer with a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 Sound

Do you have the new NEC 3xi and Pro Audio Studio?
 
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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 6616
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/25/93  8:16a
Subj: A PUBLIC APPEAL                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  RL> This net is riddles with unreasonable rules and quite a few nazi-like
 >  RL> dicatators called moderators (not here though) who are completely

 > There you are wrong.  If it wasn't for moderation, people would
 > go crazy. There is enough of it going on even with a moderator.

But when a moderator can cut your feed because he doesn't like the color of
your eyes (had one tell me that), then there needs to be some rules set on what
a moderator's limits are.

Chris

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6617
  To: CORNELL EYDE                             Date: 10/26/93  2:20a
Subj: Re: MY DISK                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Hi Boris,

>>    If that disk is no longer available or has not been sent yet,
>>    please send me a Night Owl 10 instead, Please keep me posted

Cornell, you might want to look in your mailbox...grin -:)

If you still can't find it, give us a call!

Boris Osadciw

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From: ALVIS COLLIER                          Number: 6618
  To: DAVE BACHMANN                            Date: 10/25/93 11:56p
Subj: CD ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
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MIKE SHANNON said to DAVE BACHMANN about CD ROMS on 10-23-93 
DB>I'm about to get a CD ROM drive as a present for my wife and would
MS>DB>like some feedback from anyone and everyone.  The target machine
MS>DB>is a 486SX/DOS and the major application will be for reference -
MS>no games are
MS>DB>required, so I don't think I have to look for a SoundBlaster.
MS>The only input I have is that 90% of the complaints we get regarding
MS>"read errors" and the like, come from owners of Mitsumi drives.  You
MS>can draw your own conclusions.  I've been using Hitachi drives since
MS>1991, and they've never let me down.

Dave,

  I have a hitachi CD-ROM drive for sale for $125 plus shipping. It 
comes with one software title (not reference type) Toolworks gamespack I 
think. The drive is not a screamer but it's OK for your application. 
Throughput 153/175K Mode1/2, access 450/380MS Mode1/2. It comes with all 
the necessary hardware and cabling and instructions to install and use. 
The drive works and is in good shape, I'm selling it because I've 
upgraded to a newer drive (at about 3 times this price). Let me know 
what you think OK. I can be reach at the number below or leave a message 
via this echo.

     Alvis 'AL' L. Collier, Colliers & Associates Automation
  10B 3rd Street West, Universal City, TX 78148, [210] 658-7331

Thanks a lot! {alc}
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From: WILLIAM ROUNTREE                       Number: 6619
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/25/93  6:35p
Subj: Creating custom CD                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I know that there are some companies out there that create custom CDs. Problem
is that I cannot find any!  Help....<G> 

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From: ROLF BRUINSMA                          Number: 6620
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/23/93  9:21p
Subj: So Much Shareware I & II                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Doug,

 >  ES> I have so much Shareware vol I and II is there a vol III?
 >  ES> If so where can I get it?
 >
 > There sure is.  It is in stock at PCJ for $26.95 plus shipping.
 > Give us a call at 800-547-7817 to order or 615-339-0235 for
 > further discussion.

Do you perhaps have an address of where those CD's are sold in The
Netherlands?

Cya!!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6621
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/25/93 11:43p
Subj: BRAND NEW CD-ROM TITLES                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>Hey Darling, she is a far cry from hard "R", she is a blatant "XX" by rating
LN>standards but does have a nice selection of "R" too :) Thanks for the
support

Well, so far I haven't seen anything harder than what I saw in Sharon
Stone's "R"-rated movie, but I'll keep looking!

LN>Sell a million :))))

No prob.  Only 999,800 to go.  <g>  Oh, BTW: Sorry I missed your phone
call.  I'm very interested in those flyers.  Would like around 250, but
if that's too many, then please send whatever you can spare.

UPS address is:         1406 S 25th Ave
                        Yakima, WA 98902

USPS address is:        PO Box 8160
                        Yakima, WA 98908

Thanks a bunch for another wonderful disc!

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6622
  To: AL BECK                                  Date: 10/25/93 11:43p
Subj: PROGRAMMER'S MEGAPAK: $29               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AB> > 2-CD SET: Programmer's Megapack + Source Code CD...$45

AB>Can I get the Source Code CD by itself?  If so, how much?  I am a Quick
Basic
AB>programmer and I didn't see anything listed in the Programmer's Megapack
that
AB>pertained to QB.  Thanks!

Sure thing . . . in stock at $20.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6623
  To: MOHIT GOYAL                              Date: 10/25/93 11:43p
Subj: I want OS/2 cdroms!!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG>MS>OS/2Box should begin shipping next week.  Price is $29 w/ free shipping
MG>  >on pre-orders.  Let me know if you'd like to reserve one!  All version
MG>  >2+ files with 1993 file dates.

MG>To what address do I mail my money order for $29?

Right here:

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908

Thanks,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6624
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/25/93 11:43p
Subj: CD PRICE LIST pt 1                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 October 1993            DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST      Last update: 10/23
 **************************************************************************
                                   1 of 3
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00
 20th Century Video Almanac....32.00    Microsoft Golf MPC (New!).....58.00
 5-Star Premium Windows........27.00    Microsoft Musical Instruments.57.00
 7th Guest.....................39.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........49.00
 9-Digit Zip Code Guide (New!).32.00    Middle East Diary.............35.00
 9000 Sounds (New!)............25.00    MIDI Music Shop...............26.50
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...25.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Monarch Notes.................57.00
 American Business Phonebk 91..17.00    Money, Money, Money!..........28.00
 American Business Phonebk 92..19.00    Monster Media 93 vol 2 (New!).29.00
 American Business Phonebk 93..25.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Aminet Amiga..................15.00    Mother of All Clipart.........23.50
 Anecdotes 1...................14.50    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Anecdotes 2...................14.50    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....24.00
 Anecdotes 3...................14.50    National Geographic Mammals...25.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......19.00    National Parks................24.50
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....25.50    Newsweek Interactive (New!)...26.50
 Arizona Images (New!).........25.00    Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Audubon's Birds...............23.00    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    Night Owl 8.0.................24.00
 Battle Chess..................25.00    Night Owl 9.0.................25.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 10.0 (In Stock!)....29.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Beyond the Wall of Stars......24.50    Night Owl Games (New!)........29.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl Graphics (New!).....29.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    North American Fax Book.......36.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Original Shareware............10.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....13.00    OS/2Box (Pre-orders)..........29.00
 Business Master...............20.00    Our Solar System..............13.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....27.00
 California Collection.........17.00    PC-SIG 12.....................24.00
 Canadian Shareware (New!).....19.00    PC-SIG 13 (Pre-orders)........33.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    PC-SIG Windows (New!).........19.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC Gameroom...................27.00
 CD Powerbox ($6 w/ any order).15.00    PC Karaoke w/ Microphone......68.00
 CD Winbox 1.01................25.00    Pentomino.....................28.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Phoenix 3.0 ($6 w/ any order).10.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phoenix 4.0 (New!)............19.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phonedisc USA.................69.00
 Clipart Galore................25.00    Pier 2........................24.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 3 (In Stock!)............39.00
 Clipart Heaven................25.00    Pier 2/3 Pak..................49.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00    Pinacotheca Multimedia........24.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    Pixel Garden..................34.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Composer Quest................33.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency....95.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0.............15.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....64.00    Precision Mapping.............74.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....64.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Computer Reference Library....13.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6625
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/25/93 11:43p
Subj: CD PRICE LIST pt 2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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                                   2 of 3
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Conan the Cimmerian...........29.00    Project Gutenberg (New!)......22.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....34.50    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak.......... 98.00
 Cookbook Heaven...............23.00    ProPhone 1993 Business........29.00
 Cybergenic Ranger (New!)......27.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Dagger of Amon Ra.............34.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Day of the Tentacle (New!)....44.50    Publisher's Powerhouse (New!).33.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Desert Storm..................33.50    Reader's Library..............26.50
 Desktop Bookshop..............22.50    Reel Clips (New!).............29.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Reference Library.............24.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...37.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............33.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
 Dinosaurs!....................34.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
 Dr. Games (New!)..............20.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
 Dr. Music (New!)..............20.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Dr. Shareware (New!)..........20.00    Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......51.00
 Dr. Windows (New!)............20.00    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..42.00
 DTPro.........................28.50    Shareware Online 1............25.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Online 2 (New!).....29.00
 Electronic Cookbook (New!)....29.00    Shareware Overload............13.00
 Electronic Home Library.......29.00    Shareware Studio 1............19.00
 Empire Clipart................19.50    Shareware Studio 2............23.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Shareware Studio 3 (New!).....25.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 European Monarchs.............35.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.00
 Family Doctor.................26.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...53.00
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......26.50    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...55.00
 Firearms Reference (New!).....28.00    Sights & Sounds...............24.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Font Master 2.................28.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Shareware 1...........19.00
 Fractunes (New!)..............30.00    So Much Shareware 2...........23.00
 Fresh Arte....................34.00    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....25.00
 Funny (New!)..................33.00    So Much Space (New!)..........24.00
 Game Arena (New!).............13.00    Software Vault 1..............19.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....22.00
 Game Pack 2...................25.00    Software Vault Gold (New!)....25.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..19.00
 Gameware Collection...........24.00    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Sound Works...................19.00
 Gardening (New!)..............13.00    Soundware Collection..........24.00
 GIF Galaxy (New!).............24.00    SoundWAV......................25.00
 GIF's Galore (G-Rated)........16.50    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Giga Games (New!).............23.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Global Explorer...............93.00    Space Quest IV................23.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Space Shuttle (New!)..........25.00
 Grammy Awards.................36.00    Space Time and Art (New!).....34.50
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........29.50
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Stellar 7.....................19.50
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...23.00    Straight from Heaven (New!)...19.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6626
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/25/93 11:43p
Subj: CD PRICE LIST pt 3                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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                                   3 of 3
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Guinness Disc of Records 93...33.00    Street Atlas USA v1...........86.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    Street Atlas USA v2 (New!)....95.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    STW Illustrated Encyclopedia..34.00
 Hamware 1993..................23.00    STW Multimedia Encyclopedia...44.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    STW MPC Encyclopedia..........45.50
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Super CD 1....................19.00
 Home Designer (New!)..........33.00    Super Games For Windows.......10.00
 Home/Business Legal Guide.....13.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........35.50
 House of Games................18.50    Talking Schoolhouse...........35.50
 Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00    Technotools...................13.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..21.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Interactive Story Time 3......38.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Timetable of Business/Politic.26.00
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....39.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........45.00    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Jets & Props..................28.50    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00    Total Baseball................27.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    Trump Castle..................28.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............39.00    U.S./World Atlas 3.0..........23.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
 King's Quest V................24.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 King's Quest VI (New!)........44.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........19.00    U.S. Wars: Civil War..........34.00
 La Colleccion (Spanish S/W)...29.00    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 Lan Master (New!).............26.50    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 Languages of the World........44.00    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............34.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00    U.S. Wars: WWII...............34.00
 Learning Heaven (New!)........19.00    USA Today: The 90's (New!)....36.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    VGA Spectrum 1................13.00
 Libris Britannia..............42.00    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 Linux Operating System (New!).39.00    Visions of Saturn.............23.00
 Loom..........................19.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...39.00    Wildcat Gold..................27.50
 Mac Shareware (New!)..........24.00    Win Platinum (New!)...........24.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........34.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 Mad Dog McCree (New!).........49.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Majestic Places...............38.50    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Manhole.......................34.50    World Atlas MPC...............26.50
 Mantis........................24.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World Traveler................13.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............27.00    World View....................24.00
 Mega Clipart..................27.00    World Vision 3-Pak............39.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf 1992 MPC..46.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..49.00    X11R5/GNU.....................24.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6627
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/25/93 11:43p
Subj: "SOFTER" ADULT CD-ROMS                  Refer: NONE
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 **************************************************************************
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
 Amateur Models (New!).........34.00    L.A. Strippers (Movie)........49.00
 American Girls (New!).........34.00    Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......29.00    Phone Sex.....................25.00
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......48.00    Photo Gallery (New!)..........34.00
 Digital Dreams................28.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......33.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 High Volume Nudes (New!)......36.50    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: JIM COYLE                              Number: 6628
  To: JEFF HUBERT                              Date: 10/22/93  6:34a
Subj: Re: cd-rom good deal!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JH> I have a high-quality mitsumi cd-rom drive for sale for $159 or best offer.
JH> It has a 350ms access time and is less than a month old. I have all the
JH> software, manuals, 16-bit card adaptor, and everything else that came with 
JH> drive. Everything in brand new condition! please call (410) 442-2726 if you
JH> are interested.  It is multisession photo-cd compatible also!
JH> ONLY $159 or best offer!

Well, I think I saw it new for $169. Is it internal or external?  I have $100
here if your willing to go that low. (I need to get anotehr ROM drive and I 
just spent $65 on some disks, or I would be able to give you the full price).

I'll give you extra for the shipping. Maybe like $110.

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 6629
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 10/25/93  9:36a
Subj: Re: Hot Pix                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <10-23-93 16:27> Mark Walker wrote:

MW>> I haven't seen Giffy Gold yet, but Busty Babes vol II shouldn't even
MW>> be  mentioned in the same sentence with Amateur Models. Busty Babes
MW>> vol II is the  best, clearest collection of beautiful women I have
MW>> ever seen on CD-ROM  (probably anywhere else too). My only wish is
MW>> that instead of shareware you  filled the disk with more women (I
MW>> might have even paid more for it).

Thank-you for the Kudo! The BB II disc was a labor of love especially when I
had to deal with multiple lawsuits at the same time from BB I--But, as I tried
to walk away from the publishing world, after my appearance at BBSCon,
investors came forward and made this disc possible--We are now well on our way
with all kinds of disc's coming, and the number of pictures will increase as
well--Guess, having been sued was the best thing that ever happend to me, made
alot of great friends, and attracted alot of attention which now has made for
alot of great product to come. I just wish distribution would not sell the
disc's for a few bucks over cost, because we publishers feel (those with
licensed collections) will see the same disc price for 29.00 whether we put
1,000 or 4,000....so why give 3,000 images away when we can make 3 more disc's
??? Until distribution settles down with these bloodbath disc's, no publisher
is gonna pack a disc--But we know our Venus disc will have thousands of
pictures :)--Gonna get the slides next week, and there are about 3,000 of them,
so hopefully we will have less then 1,000 rejection for a 2,000 image disc--

Thanks for believing in us !! People like you make the heartache worthwhile !

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 6630
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 10/25/93  9:40a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Pat Rickerson <10-23-93 03:15> Greg Sterling wrote:

GS>> PR>Have it would like to trade it or sell it for $120
GS>> PR>Hard drive is needed

GS>> YOU'RE CRAZY.  SAW IT AT A COMPUTER SHOW FOR $50.00!

You most likely saw release 3.0 of the disc, if he has release 1.0, he is
asking a fair price !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: DAVID ROBERTS                          Number: 6631
  To: PATRICK SHEN                             Date: 10/25/93  4:41p
Subj: Re: Cd-roms for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PS> 7th Guest by Virgin Games (2 CD set).  Smooth full motion video.  Best
 PS> CD ever made.                                    --------------  $42.00

 PS> Software Toolworks CD Deluxe Pack.  Includes ChessMaster 3000 MPC,
 PS> Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing MPC, U.S. Atlas MPC and World Atlas MPC. 
 PS> Each has own complete documents.                         
 PS> --------------  $55.00 
 PS> Hot Pix Volume 4 Adult CD.               ---------------- $20.00

Would you be interested in trading these 3 for an original Busty Babes?  If
so, give me a call at 808-624-1293.


... And never, never try to milk a bull!
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 6632
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/24/93  5:54p
Subj: Limited Time Special                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RENOVATION SPECIALS - We're expanding our office, and its time to
clear some inventory out [so I don't have to carry too much]  :)

These specials are cash, cheque, or money order only. Many of the
discs are at cost (and some are below-cost), so we can't swallow the
6% credit card fee and still give them to you at this price. These
are also while quanitities last, until the end of October. Give us
a call when you're ready to order, and we'll set your discs aside.
Oh yes, and all applicable taxes are already included. $2 S/H per
item (4-disc Set counts as one) for 2-3 day shipping within Canada.
(US Customers please call).

We cannot repeat these specials once the current stock is gone.

SHAREWARE EXPLORER 4-Disc Set - Very well organized; contains 26000+
   files from 1992 through August 1993; 3 discs for DOS, 1 for Windows;
   Less than 1% duplication between CD's.; BBS Ready w/PCBoard and
   FILES.BBS listings, as well as the CD-ROM WHOLESALERS' Access
   program based on CD-ROM PRO. An EXCEPTIONAL value.
                                        ** $64 ** (approx. $49 US)

GENERAL TITLES   Cdn$  US$         ADULT TITLES     Cdn$  US$
--------------                     ------------
Simtel 20 4/93    $20  $15         Foxes             $20  $15
Women of Venus    $25  $19         Rimfire Pacific   $34  $26
Shareware                          Adult Palate      $30  $23
   3-disc set     $45  $35         Best Vivid Motion $33  $25
The Animals (San                   101 Positions     $33  $25
   Diego Zoo)     $26  $20         Nightwatch        $42  $32
                                   Girls of Vivid    $30  $23

ONE ONLY: My First Time (Adult Motion, 2 disc set)   $43  $33

Contact:  CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA        306-789-4654
          6 Armstrong Bay                 Fax 306-789-8690
          Regina, Sk., Canada S4N 4G7     BBS 306-789-8682
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From: RON TOLER                              Number: 6633
  To: DAVE WILCOX                              Date: 10/21/93  8:09a
Subj: Test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Is this echo working? I never see any ads in it??????
 > * SPITFIRE v3.3
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From: TOM CASHMORE                           Number: 6634
  To: DAVE WILCOX                              Date: 10/21/93  5:56p
Subj: Test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DW> Is this echo working? I never see any ads in it??????
 
 Apparently not out of this Net.... You should shoot a message to Harry Spicer
(1:284/1), and tell him that theres a problem... 
 
 Tom Cashmore.
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From: JOEL BELDEN                            Number: 6635
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/23/93 11:04p
Subj: First Item 4-sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I got a bucket full of rocks for sale. $5.

 þ SLMR 2.1a þ My reality check just bounced.
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From: RON TOLER                              Number: 6636
  To: TOM CASHMORE                             Date: 10/25/93  8:05a
Subj: Test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > DW> Is this echo working? I never see any ads in it??????

 >  Apparently not out of this Net.... You should shoot a message to Harry
 > Spicer (1:284/1), and tell him that theres a problem...

Hi Tom,

    I've done this and hopefully Harry will get it and reattempt to areafix it
from the Region for us.

Ron

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From: EDWARD DELGROSSO                       Number: 6637
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/25/93 10:35p
Subj: Goverment CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can anyone give me any information on what kind of stuff is on the Goverment
Consumer Info CD and what kind of interface it has.  I would also be interested
in any other goverment information discs.....

Thanks in advance.

Ed

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From: GARY NIELSON                           Number: 6638
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/24/93 10:21p
Subj: Want to buy a CD ROM drive              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm in the market for a used CD ROM drive for a bbs. External. Anyone got
one they'd like to sell?
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From: DAVE RYDER                             Number: 6639
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/26/93 11:53p
Subj: new releases                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


DC>Not sure about Simtel, but the new version of Hobbes OS/2 will be out
DC>this week.  We will have it in by the end of the week for $14.50 each.

    Doug, is this the October release?  If so, I would be interested in
    a copy.

    If you can confirm that price for the October release, either here
    or on Rime for me, I will call you and provide the appropriate
    information.


   David Ryder * Mississauga, Ontario * 10-26-93   rn.1063@rose.com

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From: MIKE STEFFEN                           Number: 6640
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/25/93  6:42a
Subj: Computer Works catalog                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: CD-Rom Catalog!
BY: Mark Clardy (1:18/10)

Mark...send out a catalog to me at...

Mike Steffen
1517 Bertch Ave.
Waterloo, IA 50702


Thanks!

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From: MIKE STEFFEN                           Number: 6641
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/25/93  6:47a
Subj: Wanted: Hot Pix Vol 2                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for the adult CD ROM title, Hot Pix Vol 2. Will buy out-right, or do
have CD's to trade.
Mike

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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 6642
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/26/93 12:52a
Subj: CD's wanted                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Folks, I am looking for the following CD's.  If you have them, what do
you want for them?

Grolier Encyclopedia (windows version)

Storm #2

Programmers Megapack

Any C/C++ programming CD

Night Owl 9.0

CICA Windows (1993 version)

Please let me have some prices if you will.  Thanks in advance!


... Back up my hard disk? I can't find the reverse switch!    
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From: JIM NEUMILLER                          Number: 6643
  To: TODD LEMAY                               Date: 10/24/93  7:40p
Subj: Re: Sherlock holmes                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Todd Lemay to Lane Peterson <=-

 TL> Lane,
 TL> I have the first Sherlock Holmes CD which I would be willing
 TL> to trade with you for another CD or sell you for $10 plus shipping!
 TL> Just drop me a line.


Todd:

Would you trade me for "The Case of the Cautious Condor?"

Jim



... I have the heart of a liberal....in a jar on my desk!
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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 6644
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/25/93 11:56p
Subj: PCJ Order                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Doug,

 > The gentlemen (far from it BTW), lives in Finland.

          That'll get you a LOT more customers Doug, keep it up.

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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 6645
  To: JOHN ANTHONY                             Date: 10/24/93  1:28p
Subj: Pioneer Cdrom                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I have a Pioneer Cdrom DRM-600A for sale, without cables 800.00 bucks

Hi John,
I would be interested in the drive, but the price needs adjusting bad. I
RETAIL NEW 600A's for 705.00 and I have seen lotsa dealers doing the
same. If you are negotiable, call me at 517-892-2935 voice, or netmail
me at 1:239/675. I do not intend to hurt your sale here, just wanted you
to know what you have. Hope to here from you, I am interested!

Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE BBS
1:239/675


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 6646
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/24/93  1:32p
Subj: CD-ROM drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                    ////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
    BBS online      \\       MEG*A*BITE BBS (c)    //    MasterCard, VIS
      orders        \\          presents           //     Carte Blanche
  (517) 892-5042    //      CD-ROM Drives for      \\      Diners Club
       14.4         //      **  all budgets **     \\       accepted!
                    \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/////////////////

                   Orders...(517)892-2935 9am - 3pm EST
                             7 DAYS A WEEK!!
                   DEALER INQUIRIES ARE ALWAYS WELCOME!

********** This weeks special... Philips CM-215/10 SCSI internal *******
   ************ COMPLETE PLUG AND PLAY UNITS and its SCSI ************
                                Comes with!
                       8 bit Future Domain 850 SCSI card
              Ribbon cable, manuals, mounting screws for only...
          >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 240.00 ea.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
             AND BEST OF ALL, THESE DRIVES ARE BACKED BY A FULL
                        24 MONTH FACTORY WARRANTY!!!!!
                              COMPLETE UNITS..
                   Bare units are also available too!!!!!
          NO GIMMICKS, NO GIMMICKS, NO GIMMICKS, AND ABSOLUTELY
                                 NO GIMMICKS


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 6647
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/26/93  8:28a
Subj: CDs                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Actuall, it took FIVE passes before I was satisfied that I'd covered 
everything that I wanted to comment on. Took almost twice as long to do  as
Southern Beauties, but then SB didn't have SHOWOFF! and, as you  requested, I
spent a LOT of time with that program. In all, I'd say I've  got about 50 hours
work in the 480 lines I finally posted. Hope you're  not too disappointed - I
tried to be fair. 
Ciao! 
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 6648
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 10/25/93  3:12p
Subj: MSLIB                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks much. The Disk is up and running on the 486 it is appriciated.
Clint


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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 6649
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 10/26/93  7:51a
Subj: Mitsumi CD 4Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Heather!

Monday October 25 1993, Heather Krause writes to All:

 HK> For Sale: Mitsumi LU005 CD ROM drive. Still in box - hasn't been
 HK> used. Includes interface card, software, manuals, cables, etc.

Son needs one as we are trying to a computer together for him will offer $130.
My # is 512-939-9822 if you want to call, or please reply here.
Thanks
xPat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 6650
  To: ALAN EVANS                               Date: 10/26/93 11:52a
Subj: CDPlayer                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Alan!

Sent money did you recive it? Please reply
512-939-9822

Pat

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From: ADRIAN VERGOT                          Number: 6651
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/25/93  9:28p
Subj: Custom CD-ROM $75 !                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM? 
 
CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your proprietary DOS or Windows
files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and Affordable.
All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information
(600+ Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (other
formats considered on a case by case basis) and we will directly
transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any
ISO compliant CD-ROM drive (just about every one made today!)
 
- Confidentiality is assured
- $75 per CD-ROM (mention this add)
- additional copies only $50 each
- Turn around time is about 2 days
- BBS Sysops call for rates
- We accept money orders and cashiers checks
- Pesonal Check orders will be shipped when check clears bank
 
If interested, call (412) 942-4694 and ask for Adrian 
Auto Fax (412) 942-4694
 
CD ROM Creations
108 Shady Lane
McMurray, PA  15317
 
Enclose a signed copy of the following disclaimer with your order:
 
DUE TO THE BULK NATURE OF THIS SERVICE, CD-ROM CREATIONS (c) DOES
NOT AND CAN NOT CENSOR AND DETERMINE THE NATURE OF THE MATERIEL
THAT THE CUSTOMER IS PROVIDING.  IT IS THEREFORE THE SOLE
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER TO ENSURE THAT NO COPYRIGHT
VIOLATIONS EXIST IN PLACING THE DATA ONTO CD-ROM
                      Signed ______________________________
                                     Your Signature

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6652
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 10/27/93  3:49p
Subj: A PUBLIC APPEAL                         Refer: 10077
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> But when a moderator can cut your feed because he doesn't like the co
-> your eyes (had one tell me that), then there needs to be some rules s
-> a moderator's limits are.

Here's a snippet I pulled from the MODERATOR echo regarding a
moderator's limits:

"A backbone conference moderator is the final arbiter of his/her
conference.  If a moderator must reprimand a recalcitrant conference
participant, then the moderator's decision concerning that participant
is final.  In other words, if a moderator requests that a link to a
conference be severed, then the link SHALL be severed without chance of
appeal.

If at any time the moderator wishes to remove his/her conference from
the backbone, then the moderator shall be allowed to do so unhindered.
However, if a conference moderator allows illegal or obscene activity to
take place in the conference, then the ZEC may have the conference
removed from the backbone.  This may be avoided if the ZEC gives prior
warning to the moderator, and the moderator effectively removes the
illegal/obscene activity from the conference within a specified time
limit.  If the moderator refuses or is unable to comply, the conference
shall be removed from the backbone."

tim
moderator
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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6653
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/26/93  6:12a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

X#&]%%+fN !  )19AI 



        
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CD-ROM TITLE       MIX AND MATCH       PRICE 1+    PRICE 10+
------------------------------------------------------------
1001 UTILITIES...........................10.00     8.00
ABOUT COWS...............................30.00    25.00    ADVENTURES IN
HEAVEN.....................15.00    12.00
ADVENTURES OF WILLY BEAMISH..............20.00    18.00
AIRCRAFT ENCYCLOPEDIA,THE................30.00    26.00
AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONE BOOK.............25.00    21.00    ANECDOTES
VOL.1..........................15.00     9.00
ANECDOTES VOL.2..........................15.00     9.00 
ANECDOTES VOL.3..........................15.00     9.00
ANIMALS..................................25.00    19.00
ARTHUR'S TEACHER TROUBLE.................30.00    26.00
AUDUBON'S BIRDS..........................25.00    16.00
AUDUBON'S MAMMALS........................25.00    16.00
BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SCHOOL...............20.00    17.00
BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SPACE................20.00    17.00
BATTLE CHESS.............................20.00    17.00
BEAUTY AND THE BEAST.....................20.00    16.00
BIBLE LIBRARY............................30.00    28.00
BIBLES & RELIGION........................15.00    11.00
BUSINESS ASSISTANT.......................10.00     8.00
BUSINESS MASTER..........................20.00    16.00
C USERS GROUP LIBRARY....................30.00    25.00
CALIFORNIA COLLECTION....................10.00     9.00
CAMERON'S FINE ART CATALOG...............40.00    35.00
CAREER OPPORTUNIES.......................30.00    26.00
CHESSMASTER M/M..........................20.00    18.00
CIA WORLD FACT BOOK......................25.00    23.00
CIA WORLD FACT BOOK M/M..................30.00    26.00
CICA WINDOWS DISK........................20.00    12.00
CLIPART GOLIATH..........................15.00    11.00
CLIPART HEAVEN...........................15.00    12.00
COATES ART REVIEW : IMPRESSIONISM........30.00    26.00
COMPLETE BOOKSHOP........................15.00    11.00
COMPOSER QUEST...........................35.00    30.00 
CONSUMER INFORMATION DISC................30.00    26.00
COOKBOOK HEAVEN..........................15.00    12.00
DANGER HOT STUFF.........................15.00    14.00
DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLES.................15.00    11.00
DESKTOP BOOKSHOP.........................15.00    11.00
DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES.................15.00    11.00
DINOSAUR ADVENTURE.......................30.00    26.00
EDUCATION MASTER.........................20.00    16.00
ELECTRONIC COOKBOOK......................35.00    30.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA MPC VER.1...................50.00    40.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA MULTI-MEDIA VER.5...........50.00    40.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUND....................15.00    11.00
EUROPEAN MONARCHS........................30.00    26.00
FAMILY DOCTOR............................25.00    19.00
FONT MASTER TWO..........................20.00    17.00
FONT MASTER..............................10.00     9.00
FONTS FOR THE PROFESSIONAL...............25.00    22.00
FRESH ARTE...............................30.00    26.00
------------------------------------------------------------
CD-ROM TITLE                          PRICE 1+     PRICE 10+
------------------------------------------------------------
GAME ARENA...............................10.00     8.00
GAME MASTER..............................20.00    16.00
GAME PACK II.............................30.00    26.00
GARBO MSDOS/MAC..........................20.00    12.00
GIFS GALORE..............................20.00    12.00
GREAT CITIES VOLUME 1....................30.00    26.00
GREAT CITIES VOLUME 2....................30.00    26.00
HAM RADIO................................15.00    11.00
HAMCALL..................................40.00    38.00
HOLY BIBLE,THE...........................20.00    16.00
HOSPITALITY INDEX........................30.00    25.00
INTERACTIVE STORY TIME 1.................20.00    18.00
INTERACTIVE STORY TIME 2.................20.00    18.00
INTERNATIONAL BUSIN. & ECON. ATLAS.......20.00    14.00
J SCHUMACHER'S NEW PRAGUE COOKBOOK.......30.00    26.00
JETS & PROPS.............................30.00    23.00
JOKES & PRANKS...........................10.00     8.00
JONES IN THE FAST LANE...................20.00    18.00
KGB WORLD FACT BOOK......................30.00    25.00
KINGS QUEST V............................20.00    18.00
KLOTSKI..................................25.00    21.00 
KODAK PHOTO CD ACCESS SOFTWARE...........20.00    14.00
LANGUAGES OF THE WORLD...................40.00    35.00
LEARNING ADVENTURE.......................10.00     8.00
LEARNING HEAVEN..........................15.00    12.00
LIBRIS BRITANIA..........................40.00    32.00
LOOM.....................................20.00    17.00
MACMILLAN DICTIONARY FOR CHILDREN........30.00    22.00
MAGAZINE RACK............................30.00    26.00
MAVIS BACON TEACHES TYPING M/M...........25.00    19.00
MAYO CLINIC..............................25.00    21.00
MIDDLE EAST DIARY........................30.00    26.00
MIDI MUSIC SHOP..........................25.00    21.00
MIXED-UP MOTHER GOOSE....................20.00    18.00
MONKEY ISLAND............................30.00    26.00
MOTHER OF ALL CLIPART....................15.00    11.00
MPC WIZARD...............................20.00    14.00
MS DOS ARCHIVES (SIMTEL 20)..............20.00    12.00
NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC MAMMALS..............30.00    21.00
NATIONAL PARKS...........................25.00    20.00
NORTH AMERICAN FACIMILE (FAX) BOOK.......30.00    26.00
NORTH AMERICAN INDIANS...................30.00    26.00
OFFICER'S BOOKCASE.......................30.00    26.00
ORIGINAL SHAREWARE.......................10.00     7.00
OS/2 ARCHIVES............................20.00    12.00
OUR SOLAR SYSTEM.........................15.00    11.00
PC-SIG VERSION 11........................20.00    16.00
PC-SIG VERSION 12........................25.00    21.00
PC-SIG WORLD OF GAMES....................15.00    12.00
PC-SIG HOME & BUSINESS COLLECTION........10.00     9.00
PC-SIG WORLD OF WINDOWS..................15.00    12.00
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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6654
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/26/93  6:13a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG PART 2                   Refer: NONE
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PETER AND THE WOLF.......................20.00    16.00
PHARMACIST GUIDE TO DRUGS................30.00    26.00
PIXEL GARDEN.............................30.00    26.00
PLANT DOCTOR.............................30.00    26.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--FRENCH...........35.00    25.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--GERMAN...........35.00    25.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--ENGLISH..........35.00    25.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--JAPANESE.........35.00    25.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--SPANISH..........35.00    25.00
PROGRAMMER'S ROM.........................30.00    26.00
PROJECT GUTENBURG........................20.00    18.00
PUBLIQUE ARTE............................30.00    26.00
PUBLISH-IT...............................25.00    19.00
Q & A....................................50.00    45.00
QRZ HAM RADIO............................20.00    12.00
RBBS IN A BOX VERSION 3.1................30.00    26.00
REFERENCE LIBRARY........................20.00    18.00
ROGER EBERT MOVIE COMPANION..............30.00    26.00
SCOUNTING REPORT 92......................30.00    26.00
SEALS OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.............30.00    26.00
SECRET WEAPONS OF THE LUFTWAFFE..........30.00    26.00
SELECTWARE...............................10.00     8.00
SHAKESPEARE..............................20.00    16.00
SHAREWARE GOLD II VOL.2 #1...............30.00    26.00
SHAREWARE HEAVEN.........................15.00    12.00
SHAREWARE ONLINE.........................25.00    21.00
SHAREWARE ONLINE VOL.#2..................25.00    21.00
SHERLOCK CONSULTING DETECTIVE............20.00    17.00
SHERLOCK HOLMES..........................20.00    16.00
SO MUCH SCREENWARE.......................30.00    26.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 2......................15.00    12.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3......................25.00    18.00
SOFTWARE VAULT VOL.2.....................15.00    12.00
SOUND SENSATIONS.........................15.00    11.00
SOURCE CD-ROM............................20.00    18.00
SPACE ADVENTURE..........................30.00    26.00
SPACE QUEST IV...........................20.00    18.00
SPACE SERIES-APOLLO......................30.00    26.00
STELLER 7................................20.00    18.00
STRAIGHT FROM HEAVEN.....................15.00    12.00
STREET ATLAS USA.........................95.00    90.00
TAO OF COW...............................30.00    26.00
TECHNOTOOLS..............................15.00    11.00
TEMPRA PHOTO CD ACCESS SOFTWARE..........20.00    14.00
TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES.................30.00    26.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-SCIENCE............25.00    21.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-BUS.& POLITICS.....25.00    21.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-ARTS & ENTERTAIN...25.00    21.00
TOO MANY TYPEFONTS.......................12.00    11.00
U.S. ATLAS M/M...........................20.00    16.00
U.S. ATLAS WITH AUTOMAP..................25.00    21.00
U.S. CIVICS..............................30.00    26.00
        
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U.S. HISTORY.............................35.00    30.00
U.S. PRESIDENTS..........................30.00    26.00
U.S./WORLD ATLAS.........................22.00    19.00
U.S.A. STATE FACTBOOK,THE................30.00    26.00
U.S.A. WARS:CIVIL WAR....................30.00    26.00
U.S.A. WARS:DESERT STORM.................30.00    26.00
U.S.A. WARS:KOREA........................30.00    26.00
U.S.A. WARS:VIETNAM......................30.00    26.00
U.S.A. WARS:WORLD WAR II.................30.00    26.00
VGA SPECTRUM.............................10.00     7.00 
VGA SPECTRUM 2...........................20.00    18.00
VISIONS OF SATURN........................30.00    16.00
WHERE IS CARMEN SAN DIEGO................30.00    25.00
WILD PLACES..............................20.00    14.00
WINDOWARE................................15.00    11.00
WINDOWS MASTER...........................20.00    16.00
WING COMMANDER / ULTIMA VI...............25.00    19.00
WORLD ATLAS M/M..........................20.00    16.00
WORLD OF FLIGHT..........................35.00    30.00
WORLD OF TRAINS..........................35.00    30.00
WORLD TRAVELER...........................15.00    11.00
WORLD VIEW...............................20.00    14.00
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*** NEW TITLES *** NEW TITLES *** NEW TITLES ***
20TH CENTURY VIDEO ALMANAC...............25.00    18.00
BEST OF MICROPROSE.......................25.00    19.00
CHAOS FRACTALS AND MAGIC.................30.00    26.00
DINOSAURS................................30.00    22.00
FRACTOOLS................................30.00    26.00
FRACTUNES................................30.00    26.00
GAMEWARE COLLECTION......................25.00    18.00
GARDENING................................15.00    11.00
GUINESS DISC OF RECORDS 1993.............30.00    21.00
LEGAL GUIDE..............................15.00    11.00
MAD DOG MACREE...........................40.00    35.00
MULTIMEDIA AUDIO COLLECTION..............30.00    22.00
NEWSWEEK INTERACTIVE.....................25.00    21.00
PIER 3...................................30.00    22.00
PRECISION MAPPING........................79.00    65.00
PUBLISHERS PARADISE......................25.00    21.00
REEL CLIPS...............................30.00    26.00
SLEEPING BEAUTY..........................20.00    16.00
SOUNDWARE COLLECTION.....................25.00    18.00
SPACE SHUTTLE............................25.00    18.00
WIN PLATINUM.............................25.00    16.00









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  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/26/93  6:13a
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  SHIPPING $ 5.00   FLAT FEE  UNDER 10 CD'S________$5.00____
  SHIPPING $ 8.00   FLAT FEE  OVER  9  CD'S________$8.00____


                                      TOTAL_________________


I ONLY ACCEPT CHECKS OR MONEY ORDERS AT THIS TIME.
ALL CHECKS WILL BE HELD UNTIL THEY CLEAR BANK.


SEND ORDERS TO:    STEVE GREENO
                   2508 AVENIDA REGULO
                   TUCSON AZ. 85710

               FAX # 1-602-292-0497   


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From: JIM HILGEFORD                          Number: 6656
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 10/26/93  5:05p
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (26 Oct 93) Steve Greeno wrote to All...

 SG> X#&]%%+fN !  )19AI 
 SG> 
 SG> 
 SG> 
 SG>         
 SG> ------------------------------------------------------------
 SG> CD-ROM TITLE       MIX AND MATCH       PRICE 1+    PRICE 10+
 SG> ------------------------------------------------------------
 SG> 1001 UTILITIES...........................10.00     8.00
 SG> ABOUT COWS...............................30.00    25.00    ADVENTURES
 SG> IN HEAVEN.....................15.00    12.00
 SG> ADVENTURES OF WILLY BEAMISH..............20.00    18.00
 SG> AIRCRAFT ENCYCLOPEDIA,THE................30.00    26.00
 SG> AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONE BOOK.............25.00    21.00    ANECDOTES
 SG> VOL.1..........................15.00     9.00
 SG> ANECDOTES VOL.2..........................15.00     9.00 
 SG> ANECDOTES VOL.3..........................15.00     9.00
 SG> ANIMALS..................................25.00    19.00
 SG> ARTHUR'S TEACHER TROUBLE.................30.00    26.00
 SG> AUDUBON'S BIRDS..........................25.00    16.00
 SG> AUDUBON'S MAMMALS........................25.00    16.00
 SG> BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SCHOOL...............20.00    17.00
 SG> BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SPACE................20.00    17.00
 SG> BATTLE CHESS.............................20.00    17.00
 SG> BEAUTY AND THE BEAST.....................20.00    16.00
 SG> BIBLE LIBRARY............................30.00    28.00
 SG> BIBLES & RELIGION........................15.00    11.00
 SG> BUSINESS ASSISTANT.......................10.00     8.00
 SG> BUSINESS MASTER..........................20.00    16.00
 SG> C USERS GROUP LIBRARY....................30.00    25.00
 SG> CALIFORNIA COLLECTION....................10.00     9.00
 SG> CAMERON'S FINE ART CATALOG...............40.00    35.00
 SG> CAREER OPPORTUNIES.......................30.00    26.00
 SG> CHESSMASTER M/M..........................20.00    18.00
 SG> CIA WORLD FACT BOOK......................25.00    23.00
 SG> CIA WORLD FACT BOOK M/M..................30.00    26.00
 SG> CICA WINDOWS DISK........................20.00    12.00
 SG> CLIPART GOLIATH..........................15.00    11.00
 SG> CLIPART HEAVEN...........................15.00    12.00
 SG> COATES ART REVIEW : IMPRESSIONISM........30.00    26.00
 SG> COMPLETE BOOKSHOP........................15.00    11.00
 SG> COMPOSER QUEST...........................35.00    30.00 
 SG> CONSUMER INFORMATION DISC................30.00    26.00
 SG> COOKBOOK HEAVEN..........................15.00    12.00
 SG> DANGER HOT STUFF.........................15.00    14.00
 SG> DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLES.................15.00    11.00
 SG> DESKTOP BOOKSHOP.........................15.00    11.00
 SG> DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES.................15.00    11.00
 SG> DINOSAUR ADVENTURE.......................30.00    26.00
 SG> EDUCATION MASTER.........................20.00    16.00
 SG> ELECTRONIC COOKBOOK......................35.00    30.00
 SG> ENCYCLOPEDIA MPC VER.1...................50.00    40.00
 SG> ENCYCLOPEDIA MULTI-MEDIA VER.5...........50.00    40.00
 SG> ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUND....................15.00    11.00
 SG> EUROPEAN MONARCHS........................30.00    26.00
 SG> FAMILY DOCTOR............................25.00    19.00
 SG> FONT MASTER TWO..........................20.00    17.00
 SG> FONT MASTER..............................10.00     9.00
 SG> FONTS FOR THE PROFESSIONAL...............25.00    22.00
 SG> FRESH ARTE...............................30.00    26.00
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 SG> CD-ROM TITLE                          PRICE 1+     PRICE 10+
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 SG> GAME ARENA...............................10.00     8.00
 SG> GAME MASTER..............................20.00    16.00
 SG> GAME PACK II.............................30.00    26.00
 SG> GARBO MSDOS/MAC..........................20.00    12.00
 SG> GIFS GALORE..............................20.00    12.00
 SG> GREAT CITIES VOLUME 1....................30.00    26.00
 SG> GREAT CITIES VOLUME 2....................30.00    26.00
 SG> HAM RADIO................................15.00    11.00
 SG> HAMCALL..................................40.00    38.00
 SG> HOLY BIBLE,THE...........................20.00    16.00
 SG> HOSPITALITY INDEX........................30.00    25.00
 SG> INTERACTIVE STORY TIME 1.................20.00    18.00
 SG> INTERACTIVE STORY TIME 2.................20.00    18.00
 SG> INTERNATIONAL BUSIN. & ECON. ATLAS.......20.00    14.00
 SG> J SCHUMACHER'S NEW PRAGUE COOKBOOK.......30.00    26.00
 SG> JETS & PROPS.............................30.00    23.00
 SG> JOKES & PRANKS...........................10.00     8.00
 SG> JONES IN THE FAST LANE...................20.00    18.00
 SG> KGB WORLD FACT BOOK......................30.00    25.00
 SG> KINGS QUEST V............................20.00    18.00
 SG> KLOTSKI..................................25.00    21.00 
 SG> KODAK PHOTO CD ACCESS SOFTWARE...........20.00    14.00
 SG> LANGUAGES OF THE WORLD...................40.00    35.00
 SG> LEARNING ADVENTURE.......................10.00     8.00
 SG> LEARNING HEAVEN..........................15.00    12.00
 SG> LIBRIS BRITANIA..........................40.00    32.00
 SG> LOOM.....................................20.00    17.00
 SG> MACMILLAN DICTIONARY FOR CHILDREN........30.00    22.00
 SG> MAGAZINE RACK............................30.00    26.00
 SG> MAVIS BACON TEACHES TYPING M/M...........25.00    19.00
 SG> MAYO CLINIC..............................25.00    21.00
 SG> MIDDLE EAST DIARY........................30.00    26.00
 SG> MIDI MUSIC SHOP..........................25.00    21.00
 SG> MIXED-UP MOTHER GOOSE....................20.00    18.00
 SG> MONKEY ISLAND............................30.00    26.00
 SG> MOTHER OF ALL CLIPART....................15.00    11.00
 SG> MPC WIZARD...............................20.00    14.00
 SG> MS DOS ARCHIVES (SIMTEL 20)..............20.00    12.00
 SG> NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC MAMMALS..............30.00    21.00
 SG> NATIONAL PARKS...........................25.00    20.00
 SG> NORTH AMERICAN FACIMILE (FAX) BOOK.......30.00    26.00
 SG> NORTH AMERICAN INDIANS...................30.00    26.00
 SG> OFFICER'S BOOKCASE.......................30.00    26.00
 SG> ORIGINAL SHAREWARE.......................10.00     7.00
 SG> OS/2 ARCHIVES............................20.00    12.00
 SG> OUR SOLAR SYSTEM.........................15.00    11.00
 SG> PC-SIG VERSION 11........................20.00    16.00
 SG> PC-SIG VERSION 12........................25.00    21.00
 SG> PC-SIG WORLD OF GAMES....................15.00    12.00
 SG> PC-SIG HOME & BUSINESS COLLECTION........10.00     9.00
 SG> PC-SIG WORLD OF WINDOWS..................15.00    12.00
 SG> PENTAMINOES..............................28.00    25.00
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        Steve:
        I also live in Tucson. I would like Barney goes to school.
        Please call me 544-9657 or leave me your address so I stop
        by and pick one up. Thanks Jim

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 6657
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/26/93  3:14p
Subj: sound effects library                   Refer: NONE
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I have sound effects library on cd.  This is selling for $19 in this echo, or
more.  My price is $10 + $2 for P&H.  If interested, reply or call.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 6658
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/26/93  3:14p
Subj: Lotus 1-2-3                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have lotus 1-2-3 for windows, version 1.1 on cd rom.  I have no use for this
program, someone take it off my hands!!!  I will sell it for $40, or will trade
for other CD's that I can use.  reply back for more info!



Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: BLAKE BARR                             Number: 6659
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/26/93  7:29a
Subj: CD-ROM Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hey Mike,
    I have tried to FREQ your cd-rom list catalog from the stated place and
never have been able to - one it sends the request list it says 'Sychronizing
with sender' until it just drops carrier. Could you shoot one over to 1:395/43?
Thanks.
                        Blake

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From: JEFF HUBERT                            Number: 6660
  To: DAVE BACHMANN                            Date: 10/26/93  5:43p
Subj: Re: Cd roms                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

well this is probly cheaper than if you live in an expensive area...
I can obtain some high-quality mitsumi internal DOUBLE-SPEED cd-rom 
drives for a low price, but I do have limited quantities.
The drive is the brand new mitsumi DOUBLE-SPEED (model FX001D) and it
comes with the manual, software, and 16-bit card.
 
The drives are BRAND NEW (never opened) and there specs are:
300k transfer rate! (double speed)
280ms access time
Photo-cd compatibe, and MPC compatible too!
New Automatic open/close door! 
 
The 16-bit card has been revised for easier cable connections
and these drives come with everything needed for installation!
No need to buy a seperate expensive SCSI card to install this drive 
like most other double cd-rom drives! 
 
ACT FAST, as these drives are priced at a low $230.00
plus shipping and there are LIMITED QUANTITIES!!
CALL (410) 442-2726 NOW!


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From: DAVE BAKKER                            Number: 6661
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/25/93  6:51a
Subj: Looking For a cd                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for a plant indentification cd.
It needs to have pictures and descriptions of all the different plants.
I was wondering if there is anything out there.
The Latin names, an index to make it easier to look up plants etc.

thanks,

Dave


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 6662
  To: ROBERT MOORE                             Date: 10/25/93  8:08a
Subj: Hitachi CDROM Drives                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Caddies are only 6.00 each for the Hitachis, but some places you can get
them cheaper!
Matt Bedtelyon
1:239/675


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 6663
  To: CAM LERCH                                Date: 10/25/93  9:36a
Subj: CD-ROM WANTED! SLOW!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Cam,
I read your memo:
-> Hi, I'm looking for a slow CD-ROM drive.. I would prefer it to come w
-> controller card.. maybe around 700ms.. cheap please.. I've seen them
-> $99.00 and I'm looking around $110.00 American.. So if you have a CD-
-> that you could sell me.. please reply here..

I have some NEW Philips that are complete units (375ms access) for only
$165.00 US. And some used internal Hitachi CDR-3500 (800ms) for 99.00
bare. Controllers for the Hitachi retail at 71.00 US.
Let me know if you are interested, we will ship to Canada, and accept
M/C, VISA and C.O.D.

Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE
1:239/675


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 6664
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/25/93 10:40p
Subj: NEC MODEL 36 Readers                    Refer: NONE
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                   ******************************
                  *          MEG*A*BITE          *
                  *     CD-ROM NEWSFLASH #11     *
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I have a large quanity of NICE NEC Model 36 (used) units for sale.
I have priced the units for quick sale because of the number we have
available. Here are the specs for these top quality NEC drives:

True SCSI units
External desktop units
450 msec access time
150 ksec transfer rate
IBM, PC or MAC compatiable

     Now only ......................................$125.00ea


We will make you custom daisy chain ribbon for cost when purchasing
multiple drives. These are ready for immediate shipments. We accept
VISA, M/C, Carte Blanche and Diners Club with NO SURCHARGE.
Many other new and used units available, call today for your order or
information at:

                       MEG*A*BITE
                       Voice and FAX (517)892-2935
                       9am-9pm EST


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From: KATHY MURPHY                           Number: 6665
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 10/26/93 10:27a
Subj: Re: FREE CATALOG                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Steve Greeno to All <=-

 SG> FREE CD-ROM CATALOG WITH LOW PRICES.
 SG> LEAVE MESSAGE  OR  WRITE  TO:

Kathy Murphy 
31 Mystic Ave.
Pawcatuck, CT 06379


... Data, Run a level 3 diagnostic on this tagline!
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From: KATHY MURPHY                           Number: 6666
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 10/26/93 10:27a
Subj: Re: Games wanted.                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Chris Snyder to All Users <=-

 CS> I am willing to pay by check or mo for these used games.

 CS> CD's:
 CS> Willy Beamish

I have this game on disks, or do you absolutely need it on CD.


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From: KATHY MURPHY                           Number: 6667
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/26/93 10:27a
Subj: Trade                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following games I would like to trade for a CD ROM 
encyclopedia.
Alone in the Dark
Willy Beamish
Curse of Enchantia (CD ROM)


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From: ED JUNE                                Number: 6668
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 10/26/93  5:37p
Subj: CD ROM LIST           1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

--> Note:
Copied (from: CFORSALE) by Ed June using timEd.

Brice Fleckenstein wrote in a message to All:

BF>  59 Microsoft Bookshelf '93 (MPC)

I'd like to know more of this one.
Is this a regular dos FAT disk?
I recently purchased one used, can't see the first file one it.
I get an error that says, no sector found, it spins forever, non-stop.
I'm usin OS/2 2.1, but that shouldn't be a problem, ALL the other CDROMS
I have work great, I even installed OS/2 off a CDROM.
Does this REQUIRE MSCDEX.EXE, and use some arcane format?
I don't have a dos driver for my CDROM, Toshiba 3201b, to try this under
real dos...

>>> Continued to next message

Oh eh?
This is the only one I saw...


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From: GEOFF REED                             Number: 6669
  To: ELLEN COTTON                             Date: 10/24/93 12:08a
Subj: Encarta                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

<<***** On 10-21-93, Ellen Cotton wrote to All: *****>>
EC>I've seen several messages on this Echo about Microsoft's Encarta
EC>encylopedia 
EC>and a special that Microsoft is running on this CD. It's true!!...I've
EC>just 
  
  Having USED encarta, i feel I should warn y'all that encarta is buggy as
hell, if you use ANYTHING in encarta, after you finish, you MUST reboot your
computer, as the programs for accessing the data in encarta are buggy, and
leave the whole enviornment unstable, you'll start getting mysterious parity
errors.  as far as I know M'soft doesn't have any plans on fixing this. 
they were in such a hurry to get this product out the door, they rushed it
and very buggy software is the result.
 
 
                                                
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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 6670
  To: JOEL BELDEN                              Date: 10/26/93  9:38p
Subj: First Item 4-sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Joel,

 > I got a bucket full of rocks for sale. $5.

          I'll take 'em.  You pay the shipping.

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From: KIM KLINE                              Number: 6671
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 10/26/93  5:12a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Kevin Plummer to Greg Sterling ***

KP> I have a copy of BB#1, It's the collectors Version....   Asking
KP> $125.00

   What stipulates the collectors version?  Just wondering how much the one
that I have is worth.
Kim

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 6672
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/26/93  3:21p
Subj: for sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For sale Storm 1 and Storm 3, $20.00 each. $2.90 shipping.

Call 302-674-3966 leave message.

                               Mike Harris

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From: RICHARD DRIGGERS                       Number: 6673
  To: GARY HOFFERMAN                           Date: 10/23/93  7:33p
Subj: Cdrom resellers wanted                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÿ@ORIGIN :Wellington, FL                                              N
Please send information to:

Richard Driggers
Sparta PCBoard BBS
13706 Staimford Drive
Wellington, FL 33414

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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 6674
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/25/93  9:43p
Subj: TOP 5 NEW CD'S                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

A life form named MIKE beamed aboard the Enterprise and said:

>WIN PLATINUM * The newest Windows-only CD with a great interface!......

Mike,

Can you tell me a bit more about this one? How many megs are onboard? How
does it compare to the CICA windows disk? I'm very interested.

Ron in Tampa
CIS:73163,124
Prodigy: GHBF12B


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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 6675
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 10/25/93  9:46p
Subj: Re: win roms                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

A life form named BORIS beamed aboard the Enterprise and said:

>>    want all 93 files and not a lot of wall-paper junk....

BO>Red, there will be a NEW ONE out soon that is way better than most of
BO>the window cd's out there right now!

What's the name of it Boris? I'm interested.

Ron in Tampa
CIS:73163,124
Prodigy: GHBF12B


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From: WILLIAM DUPREE                         Number: 6676
  To: MASON DEEVER                             Date: 10/25/93 11:21p
Subj: Scsi drives                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MD-->I have several scsi drives available for purchase:

MD-->2 IBM 1.2Gb SCSI-2 Drives $975ea
Mason are these true blue?? what are the fru #'s? thanks

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From: WAYNE HENDRICKSON                      Number: 6677
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/26/93  1:40p
Subj: H.w.by M                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I'm looking for a cd-rom called   HIGH WEIRDNESS BY MAIL.
 If you want to sell,trade, or simply rant and rave about
 how much you like/dislike it, send me a private message.
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 6678
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/27/93  6:40p
Subj: Nec CDR-36 external cd rom for sale     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello all!

I have external nec cd rom drives for $99.  They are NEC model 36.  They run on
a scsi interface.  Cable and 15 v dc power
supply not included.  Call 205-824-2552

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 6679
  To: JOHN RICKER                              Date: 10/26/93  2:59p
Subj: Re: Adult Cd's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How about an even trade.  My T&A 2 The Maxx (1993) for one
of your Foxes.
Randy

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 6680
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/26/93  3:06p
Subj: CD-ROM cache software                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for advise on what to buy, and want to buy either
new or used a software cache program that will work on
HD and CD-ROM (Mitsumi LU005).  Thanks.
Randy


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From: JASON MICHAELS                         Number: 6681
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/26/93  8:30p
Subj: Dune I & Ii On Cd-rom                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Greets to all.

        Are there any Dune freaks out there who have played Dune I
        or Dune II on CD-ROM?  If so,  did you play the original
        releases?  If you have done so could you tell me the differences
        on the CD-ROM?  I am willing to purchase Dune II if it is an
        expanded or enhanced version of the original.  I don't want to
        buy the same game twice.

        Thanks,
        Jason

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From: ARNE DRESSLAR                          Number: 6682
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/26/93  6:15p
Subj: SIMMS/SIPPS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have access to 16 256Kb 70Ns SIPPS and 12 256Kb 70Ns SIMMS which can
be had for $7.00 each or $25.00 for one Meg worth. Leave a post with
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 6683
  To: MIKE SHEPARD                             Date: 10/26/93  8:37a
Subj: ???                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <10-23-93 22:24> Mike Shepard wrote:

MS>> I must assume that my first post never made it out, I really doubt
MS>> you don't answer your mail Lee.

Lost 3 days of mail packets 2 weeks ago, so Im sure I lost quite a few
messages. Thanks for reposting.

MS>> Gold. Can you tell us if there is in fact going to be a newer one or
MS>> if it is now a dead issue?? It was to out last summer but as most of
MS>> us here in sysop land know things happen to change plans. I myself
MS>> would love to see an updated disc.

We collected over 680 megs for the PPG Vol II disc, and after we peeked inside
each zip for commercial software and copyright violations, we kept coming
across doc files that stated we had to get written permission from the authors
for CD publishing. So eliminating all the files that fell into these 3 areas,
we were left with 200+ meg which we threw on the Busty Babes Vol II disc as a
bonus---So with the new hassles publishing shareware and the fierce competition
already out there (Nightowl, Explorer, etc) it's a dead issue.

Thanks for the inquiry !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 6684
  To: LORI SMITH                               Date: 10/26/93  8:50a
Subj: Re: Hot Pix                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <10-23-93 11:34> Lori Smith wrote:
LS>>         But what about the original disk that the person this was
LS>> sent to asked about?  Ecstasy Software  Hot Pic's Volume 1????
LS>> My disk has a disclaimer on it, that reads:

LS>>         "This CD-ROM contains images originated and owned by NixPix
LS>> Windy City Adult Club via BBS (701)564-1069.  This material is
LS>> included
LS>> with the permission of NPWC and MAY NOT be REPRODUCED for
LS>> distribution
LS>> or sale but may be placed on-line on any BBS.  Florida Lion's Den,
LS>> Inc.
LS>> (904)789-2377 the CD-ROM producer's have acquired the right."

Well, they got bent out of shape that our disc contained their material, and
they wanted the credit for the scans. So they banned us from further use of
their scans, and wanted that label placed on our products. Back then we
believed them when they said they were indeed their scans, but as time marches
on, it brings serious doubt to whether they really owned the scans or
not--Rumour hath' it, they scanned from mags out of circulation, and that
hardly qualifies as ownership etc--Just like on the BB Vol I disc, we believed
Chicago Loop had the rights to the big busty ladies, and well that was false as
well, we have been sued by the magazines that sysop scanned from. Back in the
earlier days of the grassroot disc's, we never had reason to doubt these
leaders who scanned in the online environment, it wasn't until we got got sued,
educated ourselves etc, that the realization that all the adult CD's back then,
were all infringements. Playboy has filed a 58 million dollar suit against the
publisher who did PC Pix 1,2,3 etc...

The only people who own or have licensing for scans are Graphical Images of
Florida (Southern Beauties), Giffy Gold, Amateur Models, and now Busty Babes
Vol II--The distributors in the US are dropping the older more dangerous titles
to include Storm, Asian Ladies, Ecstasy, Busty Babes Vol I, PC Pix Series,
Smutware, Adult reference Library, Seedy 6 pack, 7th Heaven etc, and
Hot Pix Series etc.....

The pressing plants as of 2 weeks ago are requiring proof of ownership of the
material now before they press. The Storm 4 disc was rejected because of this
lack of proof, and now is in mothballs and will not be pressed as a result.

There is a major shakeup in the publishing world, and the distribs are changing
course as well--Distribs are cutting back on the number of titles they carry,
raised their standards on what helps them decide what they will keep, and
having model releases/photographer licensing is a MUST DO to survive as a
publisher these days.

Hope this answers your questions.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 6685
  To: AL BECK                                  Date: 10/26/93  9:45a
Subj: PROGRAMMER'S MEGAPAK: $29               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to Mike Shannon, Al Beck said:
 AB> > 2-CD SET: Programmer's Megapack + Source Code CD...$45

 AB> Can I get the Source Code CD by itself?  If so, how much? 
 AB> I am a Quick Basic programmer and I didn't see anything
 AB> listed in the Programmer's Megapack that pertained to QB. 
 AB> Thanks!

 AB> ---
 AB>  * Origin: -=* Blues Brother's *=- (214) 487-3400
 AB> (1:124/1019.1901)
Another source for QuickBasic source code and utilities is EMS PRofessional
Shareware's QB Utility Library CD-ROM, with 231 QuickBasic and PDS products.
Voice:+1(301)924-3594.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 6686
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/26/93  9:57a
Subj: C/C++ Shareware CD-ROM                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the sixth edition of
its C/C++ CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The October 1993 CD-ROM has
1046 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 125,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: TOM ROSETTI                            Number: 6687
  To: RICHARD WICKER                           Date: 10/26/93  5:36p
Subj: Adult GIFs on CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > CD-ROM?  What model do you have?

It's a Chinon CDS-431.  I got it used, with an Encyclopedia, US Atlas, World
Atlas, Mavis Beacon, Sprint Word Processer and about a dozen games, for $175.

 >I just recently bought the NEC CDR-80 from

Yeah, kinda surprised me to hear it.  I'd have thought I'd hear it on your
board first.  Imagine my surprise meeting you Fidoly.

 > that 5 cd's? Is it

Yeah.  A local BBS, Little Rascals has some of em.  They've got various
categories including group, amateur and celebrity.

 > sold as a reduced price package anywhere?  And what

Not that I know of.  I've been planning to see if I could pick up 1 or 2 on
this echo.  Someone here mentioned that they had picked up HotPix 1 for $39 or
so at a show. Someone else had said they couldn't find it for less than $89.  I
suggest posting here to find out.

 > for adult CD-Roms?  They aren't full of IBM animations

They've got animations in IBM format, but that's just 1 out of about 9 or 10
categories.  There were even a few Amiga animations.

Tom
1:109/549.510

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From: ROBERT HUYNH                           Number: 6688
  To: JEFF HUBERT                              Date: 10/26/93 11:28p
Subj: Cd-rom Drive for sale!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

$230.00??  Is it the sameone I can get for $180.00???
Doors' R' Us BBS - 703-204-1538

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From: KIMBLE RIGNEY                          Number: 6689
  To: JACK BROWN                               Date: 10/27/93 12:49p
Subj: Bbs defense fund                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JB>DR TD>            The Tony Davis Electronic Defense Fund

JB>DRYou broke the law, so why don't you just accept your punishment, or
JB>DRmove to a jurisdiction that allows selling XXX material?  It
JB>DRseems you wouldn't be in this mess if you obeyed your local DRlaws
JB>in the first place.  Please don't litter all the echos DRwith your
JB>"poor little old me... please send money" messages.

JB>Good grief.  I guess by your reasoning we still should have legalized
JB>segregation in the South!  Believe it or not, once in awhile there
JB>are instances of gross _overreaching_ on the part of the
JB>congresscritters and legislooters who impose laws on us.  Once in
JB>awhile it becomes necessary for brave souls to disregard
JB>inappropriate laws, the better to have them overruled in court or on
JB>appeal.  That's how the South's noxious segregation laws finally were
JB>abolished;

I am a supporter of the First Amendment, and I will defend it even 
against the onslaughts on it by those who try to put garbage peddlers 
out of business. But DON'T try my patience with such obscene hubris as 
that of comparing this fight with that against slavery and segregation. 
That fight involved the preservation of human dignity. This one simply 
involves the occasionally distasteful job of protecting some unworthies 
in order to keep the Constitution intact, so that it is there when a 
worthier cause arises.

I see this as rather like the ACLU's defense of the Klan. You despise 
it; you don't identify with it; but you defend it for the sake of the 
Constitution. That's all.

KR

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From: DAVID SMITH                            Number: 6690
  To: DOUG HUMMEL                              Date: 10/27/93  1:51a
Subj: CONTROLLER CARD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Nope... Guess i'd better hold on to the drive & controler. Hate to
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From: ADRIAN WILLIAMS                        Number: 6691
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/24/93  3:10p
Subj: Writable CD ROM                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: ROBERT SCHECHTER                       Number: 6692
  To: RICK COOKE                               Date: 10/26/93 11:04p
Subj: Avail. of distant suns cd               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Rick Cook asks:
RC>Robert Schechter Mumbled Something to Cd Rom Vendors about Avail. of
RC>distant suns cd
RC> RS> Looking for a good price for DISTANT SUNS by Virtual Reality Saw it
RC> RS> at my local CompUSA for 79.99 but the ORION catalog has it on sale for
RC> RS> 50.00 US can anyone beat this?
RC> RS> Email me robert.schechter@satalink.com
RC>
RC>Tell me Robert, Is this a dos version of Distant Suns? I used to have
RC>it on an amiga, and yould be very intersested in the dos version. Can
RC>you tell me any more about it?
RC>
Yes, I'm looking for the CD version that is now available for DOS and Windows. 
It is very similiar to the Apple version, I'm not familiar with any Amiga
version.  And, BTY the $50 price is incorrect, am looking for a better price
than $79.99 delivered.

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From: JEFF HUBERT                            Number: 6693
  To: KEVIN FORTENBERRY                        Date: 10/27/93  4:22p
Subj: Cd-rom Drive for sale!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KF> does it have 300 kb trans. rate and is it external or 
  > internal. is that a sound blaster 16 or something like 
that>>??..

KF> === Maximus 2.01wb
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The new double speed version I am selling does have a 300k transfer rate
but the 16-bit card I mentioned is the interface card needed to hook up
the cd-rom drive, not a sound card. The drive is an internal cd-rom.
Thanks for asking.


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From: RICK SAMUELS                           Number: 6694
  To: WILLIAM ROUNTREE                         Date: 10/27/93  2:36a
Subj: Creating custom CD                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

25 Oct 93, William Rountree writes to All:

 WR> I know that there are some companies out there that create custom CDs.
 WR> Problem is that I cannot find any!  Help....<G>

Give me a call at (503) 228-0202.  We do.

Rick Samuels
CD Rom Library, Inc.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6695
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 10/27/93 12:35a
Subj: PCJ Order                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC> MS> In what country do you reside?  A 4-CD order to
DC> MS> most European countries
DC> MS> would be around $6 by non-insured Airmail, or
DC> MS> typically about $10-$13 by
DC> MS> insured Air Parcel Post.  These are "average"
DC> MS> figures, and the numbers do

DC>The gentlemen (far from it BTW), lives in Finland.  4 CDs in jewel cases
with
DC>packaging would weigh over 1 pound or about 18-20 ounces.  You need to
double
DC>check the figures you quoted here Mike.  20 ounces by uninsured regular
airma
DC>to Finland is $15.77.

Incorrect.  As a test, I used four of the Pier3 CD's, an invoice, foam
packing, and a 200-pound test, 6x6x2-inch box.  When weighed, it came
to a total of 15.7 ounces on my 2-lb. Pelouze postal scale.  According to
United States Postal Service publication 51, "International Postal Rates
and Fees", a 16 oz. package can be sent to any country in Europe
via Airmail small packet (non-insured) rate for $6.31, not the $15.77 you
quote.  Even a 20-ounce package would still only be $7.63.  This is on page
21 of said publication, if you would care to "double-check" your own
figures.

DC>The 2 pound rate by insured Air Parcel Post is $16.70 plus $2.40 for
DC>insurance for a total of $19.10.  2 pounds by Express Mail which
DC>is insured to $500 is exactly $25 just like I charged the guy that he is
DC>bitching about.  He didn't bother to tell me what method he wanted, and if
he
DC>had told me just exactly what he wanted, then I would have sent it that way.
DC>He is griping because he assumes I was supposed to properly "read his mind",
DC>he is full of hot air.  Like I explained to him, most choose Express Mail as

Well, Mr. Dwight just ordered six CD's from me, and I'm charging him $19
for shipping, which is the 2-lb. rate w/ insurance.  He was very cordial
on the telephone, and conveyed that he had no objection to the $19 shipping
charge, and was in no particular hurry.  All he wanted was for his order
to be shipped within a reasonable time frame, and to be aware of the
exact shipping charges beforehand.  I was happy to accomodate him on both
counts.

DC>the other 2 services take longer to get there.  The price information I
quote
DC>here for shipping is on pages 340-342 of the Issue 11, December 24, 1992 of
t
DC>United States Postal Service International Mail Manual.

Mine is dated April 1993.  Maybe you should pick up the new one?  There
were some changes made, especially regarding international shipping costs.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6696
  To: ROBERT MOORE                             Date: 10/27/93 12:35a
Subj: CD ROMs                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RM>Where is the cheapest place to get caddies for Hitachi CDR3500
RM>drives?  Thanks

We sell the higher quality Japanese caddies with a stainless steel
mechanism (not aluminum like in the cheaper units).  Here is our price
breakdown:

 JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

To order call:

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6697
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/27/93 12:35a
Subj: BUSTY II NOW SHIPPING                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |   Title:  BUSTY BABES VOL 2   |  |   Price:  $29   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

                             >>> IT'S HERE! <<<

     The wait is over.....the most eagerly awaited adult CD has just
     hit the market!  Introducing Busty Babes volume 2, release 1!  It's
     true folks - the "XXX" CD-ROM era is coming to a close, with most of
     the pressing houses now refusing to press them, and many states
     cracking down on those who distribute or display them.  The time has
     come to enter the new age of adult CD-ROM erotica with Busty Babes
     volume 2.  This is a fully licensed and copyrighted collection with
     soft and sensuous images of gorgeous ladies from around the world.
     If you're looking for the perfect "adult" CD for your BBS, give
     Busty 2 a look!  No worries about copyright infringement or local
     ordinances with this CD.  Just megs and megs of beautiful, artistic
     photographs, taken by the top magazine photographers.

     * All ORIGINAL scans, never seen before!
     * Showoff(R) custom image viewer with slideshow and VGA autodetect.
     * Separate directory of 1993 shareware!
     * BBS-ready with FILES.BBS support.
     * Super VGA 1024x768 images.
     * First-class packaging - great for retail or shows.
     * ONLY $29!

     NOTE:  We were only allocated 200 for our initial shipment, and most
            of those are spoken for, so hurry!

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6698
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/27/93 12:35a
Subj: TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #2:  TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES   |
         |________________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

>BUSTY BABES VOL 2 * The FIRST serious "soft" adult CD for BBS!.........$29
>OS/2BOX * Want the latest OS/2 shareware? No contest - it's OS/2Box....$29
 PIER 2/3 PAK * Two great shareware CD's with 88% 1993 files! BBS-ready.$49
 GIF GALAXY * 650mb of new high-rez .GIF images. BBS-ready..............$24
 SO MUCH SPACE! * Hundreds of dazzling space images up to 1024x768......$24

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: RONALD GOODWIN                         Number: 6699
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/27/93  7:23p
Subj: Swimwear or Lingerie                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I currently have the SwimWear 93 online and I am looking for another cd with
the same quality .gif's on it.  

If anyone has any suggestions on new Swimwear or Lingerie CD's please let me
know where I can find them.


Thanks

Ron


GOODEE'S BBS - Waterloo, IA. - 319-235-3099 - 34000 + PD & Adult Files

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 6700
  To: KAWAI WONG                               Date: 10/26/93  7:20p
Subj: Swimwear CD needed!!!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Kawai!

Monday October 25 1993, Kawai Wong writes to All:

 KW>         I am looking for a Swimwear CD called Swimwear 1993 for my BBS.
 KW> I have called both Boris and Groupware but neither one has it.  Can
 KW> somebody tell me where can I get one (used one is fine)??  Thanx. -+-

Got what do you offer?
512-939-9822

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 6701
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/26/93 11:07p
Subj: Wanted CDPlayer                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

Have 2 4meg 60 simms, trade for CDPlayer or cd's
512-939-9822

Pat

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From: DAVID ROBERTS                          Number: 6702
  To: ROBERT MOORE                             Date: 10/27/93  5:35p
Subj: Re: Hitachi CDROMs                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RM> Weren't you selling your Hitachi CDROMs?  Do you have all four? Would
 RM> you accept $400 plus shipping for the four drives, cable, controller
 RM> and four caddies?

Sorry, the drives were sold for the asking price of $450.



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From: TERRY MCDILL                           Number: 6703
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 10/23/93  7:43p
Subj: Re: Adult CD-Roms for Tra               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RN> Terry, I have the 1993 T&A 2 The Maxx adult disc I will
 RN> trade for any of the above (plus a few $ maybe).

Thanks for the offer, Randy, but I was hoping for either an interactive or
a movie CD.

Take Care!


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From: WM KUNKEL                              Number: 6704
  To: DAN PROCIV                               Date: 10/27/93 11:19a
Subj: Q's                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I noticed you wrote concerning a list of combos (cdrom drives and sound
cards), in re of CD-
machine , do you have anything like 2x drives and diamond's sonicsound
sound card, I would like to see your list of combos?


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From: DOUG MCCLELLAN                         Number: 6705
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/27/93  2:40p
Subj: DRM604X                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Who's selling the DRM604X these days? Please leave you name and number.

-Doug McClellan, CloudBase! sysop


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6706
  To: RED KENNEDY                              Date: 10/28/93  1:48a
Subj: Re: win roms                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Hi Boris

 >> Red, there will be a NEW ONE out soon that is way
 >> better than most of
 >> the window cd's out there right now!

 >> Interested, give us a call at 216-225-32663 anytime
>>                                             ^^^^^ <g>
>> and we'll be happy to assist you further.

>>    You were the first to reply so looking forward to more info

Ooops...guess the old fingures get tired after a while. The correct
number is 216-225-3263.

 >> BTW: Expected release date....2 weeks or less.

>>     Can you give us a hint as to who is doing it up

Let's put it this way, they have made several cd's already and very
popular and well done...so watch for it...it'll be well worth the wait.

At least it'll be a full disk, so you'll get your money's worth.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6707
  To: KAWAI WONG                               Date: 10/28/93  1:48a
Subj: Re: Swimwear CD needed!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    ÿ@ORIGIN :MicroSolutions BBS-(615) 868-3163 USR v32b/v42b
>>    (1:116/109) N         I am looking for a Swimwear CD called
>>    Swimwear 1993 for my BBS. I have called both Boris and
>>    Groupware but neither one has it.  Can somebody tell me where
>>    can I get one (used one is fine)??  Thanx. -

In stock NOW...give us a call at 2166-225-3263 anytime and we'll be
happy to assist you!!

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6708
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/28/93  1:48a
Subj: ALL NEW BUSTY                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ B U S T Y  B A B E S  # 2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          All NEW Busty Babes II is in stock ready for delievery !!

                             P R I C E - $30.00

  ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Boris Osadciw

... I'm too sexy! You know what I mean!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6709
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/28/93  1:48a
Subj: Night Owl 10                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                A L L   N E W   N I G H T  O W L  10

* Over 5,100 NEW Files   * Over 647 Meg's    * No Dupes   * Virus Checked
* No Dupes To v9.0       * All Zipped Files  * New Viewer * and  More  !!
The  ALL NEW  "Night Owl 10 "  is here  and ready  for  delievery  !! All
programs on this cd were written or updated between Jan 1st and  Sept 1st
1993.  In fact, 100megs of the total files are from Sept 1993.In addition,
N.O has a mouse driven GUI interface for both DOS and Windows !!
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6710
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/28/93  1:48a
Subj: CDROM Systems                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00  Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare   - $379.00  NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $249.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $739.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1169.  -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms Bare Dr - $369.00  Texel Ext 245ms Bare  - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int 3021 Bare  Dr - $189.00  Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $389.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00  Mitsumi w/Sound Card  - $325.00 -PRPR
 Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50.  ALL ChestNuts CD's $12.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

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From: DAN HENDRICKS                          Number: 6711
  To: BRYAN NYLIN                              Date: 10/27/93  9:17p
Subj: Re: Enclopedia, Mammals &               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in the Wing Commander II and the Ultima Underworld CD for
$29.00... Please give me info on how to order and where to send money. Also, I
would like at address...

Thanks!                                                 -Dan Hendricks

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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 6712
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/27/93 12:02p
Subj: PHOTOSHOP- Mac CD Ver.                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     
     PHOTOSHOP 2.5.1- The CD ROM Version
     Latest FULL version (not an upgrade). 
     UNregistered, SEALED disks.
     Asking $400, but will take the BEST CASH OFFER 
     412-761-9090  fax: 412-766-3299

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6713
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 10/27/93  3:49p
Subj: A PUBLIC APPEAL                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> But when a moderator can cut your feed because he doesn't like the co
-> your eyes (had one tell me that), then there needs to be some rules s
-> a moderator's limits are.

Here's a snippet I pulled from the MODERATOR echo regarding a
moderator's limits:

"A backbone conference moderator is the final arbiter of his/her
conference.  If a moderator must reprimand a recalcitrant conference
participant, then the moderator's decision concerning that participant
is final.  In other words, if a moderator requests that a link to a
conference be severed, then the link SHALL be severed without chance of
appeal.

If at any time the moderator wishes to remove his/her conference from
the backbone, then the moderator shall be allowed to do so unhindered.
However, if a conference moderator allows illegal or obscene activity to
take place in the conference, then the ZEC may have the conference
removed from the backbone.  This may be avoided if the ZEC gives prior
warning to the moderator, and the moderator effectively removes the
illegal/obscene activity from the conference within a specified time
limit.  If the moderator refuses or is unable to comply, the conference
shall be removed from the backbone."

tim
moderator


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From: JOEL MILLECAN                          Number: 6714
  To: AULTON WHITE                             Date: 10/28/93  6:22p
Subj: VIRUS! in NightOwl-10 CD                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Forwarded from 1:3645/60, Dragon's Den in Valdosta Ga
 * Originally to All in the WARNINGS echo.


A Virus has been found in the file (((SF2_UP.ZIP)))...
On Night Owl's v10 CD. The file contains the "Memory Lapse" Virus.

The Virus is detectable with McAfee Scan v108.

The File is an Update to Street Fighter Game...

Delete it from your Filebases!;-)


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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 6715
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/27/93  4:50p
Subj: sound effects library                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have sound effects library on cd.  This is selling for $19 or more.  My price
is $10 + $2 for P&H.  If interested, reply or call.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: BLAKE BARR                             Number: 6716
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/27/93  4:25p
Subj: CD PRICE LIST pt 1                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MS±>    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

Mike,
    What is the cd title<s> for 6$?
                                    Blake

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From: GARY SHADE                             Number: 6717
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 10/27/93  9:58p
Subj: BUSTY BABES 1                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Overheard Greg Sterling  to Pat Rickerson on the subject of BUSTY BABES 1

GS>PR>Hello Greg!
GS>
GS>PR>12 Oct 93, Greg Sterling writes to All:
GS>
GS> GS> INTERESTED IN BUYING OR TRADING FOR BUSTY BABES 1 CD.  LET
GS>PR>ME KNOW IF
GS> GS> YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A DEAL.  (I HAVE A LOT OF BASEBALL AND
GS>PR>HOCKEY CARDS IF
GS> GS> INTERESTED.)

Hi Greg,

If you have any 1964-67 or '68 Chicago Cubs Baseball cards (especially
interest in Banks, Santo, Williams and others), and want to negotiate a
trade for a CD - netmail me at 1:282/3024 or call our BS at 612-946-4838.
Address your message to me - and tell me the type of CD you are looking
for.

GS


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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 6718
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/24/93  7:55a
Subj: Re: CDs                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>     twice as long to do  as Southern Beauties, but then SB didn't
>     have SHOWOFF! and, as you  requested, I spent a LOT of time
>     with that program. In all, I'd say I've  got about 50 hours

Hello Bob, what are some of the features of Showoff and does it only
work with the BB CD's? Is it share ware?
BTW... Excellent reviews, I look forward to everyone of them!

     Thanks...
          Ken

>Ken<

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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 6719
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 10/27/93 10:31a
Subj: A PUBLIC APPEAL                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Chris,

 > But when a moderator can cut your feed because he doesn't like the color
 > of your eyes (had one tell me that), then there needs to be some rules
 > set on what a moderator's limits are.

          In FidoNet, the power of a moderator is basically unlimited.  I'm not
sure of the reason for this, but would guess it stems from the "my ball"
philosphy.  i.e. the person who starts a conference is generally deemed to be
the "owner", is normally the (at least initial) moderator and therefore
(logically) "owns" the conference.  Why would anyone want to start a conference
which was immediately put into the public domain and over which (s)he had
absolutely no control (wrong word I know).

          Again, in FidoNet terms, the moderator is "God", may instruct the
Fidonet *EC structure who may or may not receive the conference, although may
not decide conference routing and may request (with authority) for links to be
cut.  Content is 100% under the moderator's control.

          In general, if you have a moderator who "gently" moderates, then the
best thing to do is to send him/her flowers and chocolates, they are a RARE
breed, believe me <grin>.


                                                   Cheers,

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 6720
  To: BRIAN ELFERT                             Date: 10/27/93 10:15a
Subj: Re: Hot Pix                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <10-24-93 15:48> Brian Elfert wrote:

BE>> So these three discs have gotten permission to use every picture on
BE>> their discs?  I assume no penetration means no pictures of couples
BE>> "doing it".  Exactly what are they doing in the pictures?

That is correct--We in our contract have the clause that allows people to
distribute the images as long as they own the disc--The other 2 also have the
licensing rights, so they also allow the same.

These types of disc's show the female (no male), with genital exposure (not
just the outside :))--Basically every way to model the female body about sums
it up--BB II has about 3% that may be considered 'XXX' but they are in good
taste--Its up to the sysops to whether they would want those areas online.

In the case of BB II, lingerie, swimwear, skimpy clothes, and a whole lot of
peeling it off..... Hope this helps.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 6721
  To: DAVID NGHIEM                             Date: 10/27/93 10:30a
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-ROM SITUATION              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <10-24-93 18:39> David Nghiem wrote:

DN>> I see a lot of discussion here concerning Adult CD-ROMs, i.e.
DN>> the sale of, display of on BBS.

DN>> 1.   Is selling Adult CD-ROMs illegal?

Go to your library and pull your local statutes on pornography--You run a
greater risk dealing in 'XXX' then you do 'X' and 'XX'. If your community
allows renting of XXX movies, and you have adult book stores, your chances of
being tried by community standards of less.....talk to your local video store
renting 'XXX', they can give you more of a feel for this.

DN>> 2.   Some sysops have Adult CD-ROM access.  Are the CD's they have
DN>>      licensed for BBS use?  I would think many of the GIF's are
DN>>      copyrighted and in violation of copyrights.

95% of the adult disc's are copyright violations--Even pressing plants will not
manufacture if you cannot prove ownership. Most all the earlier releases were
allowable by the author for BBS use because they did not own the material
therefore not restricting the distribution of it.

DN>> 3.   Are there any Adult CD-ROMs that are licensed specifically
DN>>      for use on a BBS for a sysop?  I think "Giffy Gold",
DN>>      "Busty Babes II", and "Amateur Models" are okay for use but
DN>>      am not sure.

All 3 are licensed collections, and are permitted to be used by sysops in the
online environment.

Hope this helps.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: GARY POPKIN                            Number: 6722
  To: GARY KIMBRELL                            Date: 10/27/93 11:44p
Subj: cd's 4 sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dear Gary
I'd be interested intrading my " My Private Collection Volume 1 "
for the nix #3 or the asian cd. Mine has 4000 gifs and various dl and gl
files and utilities, total over 675 megs of all types of adult material.
Leave me e-mail if interested
or anyone else looking to trade please do like wise .
Gary Popkin


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From: TOM ROSETTI                            Number: 6723
  To: GARY LINGER                              Date: 10/27/93  6:23p
Subj: Amiga Encyclopedia                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Forwarded from "CD ROM Classified"
 * Originally by Richard Wicker
 * Originally to All
 * Originally dated 24 Oct 1993, 14:43

I seem to remember the Amiga CD-ROM drives being sold with an encyclopedia,
But I cannot remember if it was Grolier's or Compton's.  Does anyone know
which it was, and WHERE CAN I GET IT????  Anybody got one they want to
unload?


*FSED91j*

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From: MIKE GERARDI                           Number: 6724
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/27/93  8:40p
Subj: Street atlas cd-rom                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DeLorme Street Atlas USA on CD ROM

Easily installs to run under MS Windows.
Database gets down to the individual street level of EVERY city in the
US.  Locate an area of interest by ZIP code, phone number or city &
state.

Sells for Close to $100.00 new

CD's don't wear out, so this is like brand new.

        Asking $50.00 and I pay the shipping.  NO COD's

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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 6725
  To: BLAKE BARR                               Date: 10/26/93  2:43p
Subj: Re: Wanter CD-ROM Titles                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Blake, I do have a copy of 7th Guest that I can let you have for $25 + $3
shipping.  It's in decent shape, and isn't the OEM version.  It has the video,
etc.....

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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 6726
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 10/26/93  2:51p
Subj: Re: Budget Cd's 4 sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR.>  >         CD-ROM DISC'S (USED):
JR.>  >         Hot Pix 3               $35.00 or B/O
JR.>  >         Storm II                $35.00 or B/O
JR.>  >         Asian Ladies            $35.00 or B/O
JR.>  >         No reasonable offers refused!
JR.>  
 
I assume that you still have these for sale?  Anyway, I'm intrested in Asian
Ladies.  I've seen it for $29 NEW, and will offer you $21 shipped.

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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 6727
  To: TERRY MCDILL                             Date: 10/27/93 10:49p
Subj: Re: Adult Cd-roms For Tra               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                    -|-  Quoting Terry Mcdill to All  -|-


 TM> I have the following CD-Roms for trade:
   > Nightwatch Interactive
   > Digital Dreams
   > All reasonable offers considered!

Terry, I have Asian Ladies available in trade for either of the above,
let me know if interested.  Thanks in advance.

,\\ark
 
... Why did CNN cancel that cool "Desert Storm" show?
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From: MIKE STEFFEN                           Number: 6728
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/28/93  6:32a
Subj: Busty babes Vol 1 release 1 or 3?       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Re: BUSTY BABES 1
BY: Lee Noga (1:3618/23)

>You most likely saw release 3.0 of the disc, if he has release 1.0, he is aski

How can you tell which is which?

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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 6729
  To: JIM COYLE                                Date: 10/26/93  9:13p
Subj: New CD-ROM drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Jim,
I have several drives, new and used for the picking, all carry at least
a 30 day warranty, so give me a call if interested....
I don't think you'll be sorry!

Hope to hear from you soon!

Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE
Voice   (517)892-2935


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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 6730
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 10/27/93  5:11p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I'm looking for the best price on a cd rom, sound card combo.
-> 200ms seek time and at least 300kb per sec transfer.
-> 16 bit sound card.

Checkout Sams Chris, I just installed a multimedia for a friend.
Doublespin Drive, Pro audio spectrum 16 bit card and some pretty nice software,
including Compton's interactive encyclopedia.
$439.00... 

-Joe
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From: HOWARD ONEIL                           Number: 6731
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 10/28/93  2:16a
Subj: Mitsumi CD 4Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Heather :

Will offer $125.00 for this item if you still have it.  

Thanks!

Howard O'


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From: MARK MCCONACHIE                        Number: 6732
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 10/28/93  4:15p
Subj: Mitsumi CD 4Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HK>For Sale: Mitsumi LU005 CD ROM drive. Still in box - hasn't been
  >used. Includes interface card, software, manuals, cables, etc.

HK>Must sell as "used" since the warranty was on my original drive and
  >doesn't transfer to this one.

HK>Will sell for $150 (includes postage) or best offer received by
  >11/5/93. Leave message here, or call me at 913-888-5201 ext.257
  >(8a-4p Central time, or leave voice mail at my extension if after
  >hours).

Hi Heather, could you give me some stats on your drive if you still have
it? Transfer kb's, seek times etc.....
                                     Mark
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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 6733
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/28/93  1:28p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Maybe I did see the 3.0 version.  If anyone has the 3.0 version of BB please
quote me a price.

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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 6734
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/28/93  1:39p
Subj: BUSTY BABES 3                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE BB 3.  DOES ANYONE HAVE IT AND HOW MUCH?

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From: CORNELL EYDE                           Number: 6735
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 10/27/93  8:25a
Subj: Re: MY DISK                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > >>    If that disk is no longer available or has not been sent yet,
 > >>    please send me a Night Owl 10 instead, Please keep me posted
 > 
 > Cornell, you might want to look in your mailbox...grin -:)
 > 
 > If you still can't find it, give us a call!
 > 

Hey, what can I say it was there the next day, the post office is a bit slow
around here,

Thanks

Cornell
 


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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 6736
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 10/27/93 11:07p
Subj: First Item 4-sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Ron!

Tuesday October 26 1993, Ron Dwight writes to Joel Belden:

 RD> Hi Joel,

 >> I got a bucket full of rocks for sale. $5.

 RD>           I'll take 'em.  You pay the shipping.

I will take at lest 2, but do you do COD - Shipping!

Pat

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From: RAMON ALVARADO                         Number: 6737
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/22/93  6:37p
Subj: NEC CD DRIVE 55j                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

         I need to get a not working  (DEATH) CD NEC DRIVE     Model:
      ***   NEC   55j
      ***   Internal
            I can pay cash for it or trade it for a Hard drive that I
            have:
     ---Seagate:
     -- 40 mb IDE.
                  Replay Here.
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From: JIM COYLE                              Number: 6738
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 10/25/93  5:34a
Subj: Re: NO10 VS PIER 3                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF> or (317) 878-4751 where the 800 number doesn't work.
BF> 
BF> They also charge a flat $5 per order, which is nice if your order is large 
BF> kicks their EFFECTIVE price quite high if you're ONLY getting NO10 (or any
BF> other single title).

Thanks for the information, but I ended up getting Night Owl v9 and v10 from 
StarVector software so I am no longer in search of new disks. Now I need a new
drive!

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From: JIM COYLE                              Number: 6739
  To: MATT MAHONEY                             Date: 10/25/93  5:41a
Subj: Re: Night Owl 10                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MM> Does anyone know if the Night Owl 10 CD-ROM disc supports FILES.BBS? Thanx.

Yes. It supports FILES.BBS and PCBoard .DIR formats!

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From: JIM COYLE                              Number: 6740
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 10/25/93  5:54a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GS> YOU'RE CRAZY.  SAW IT AT A COMPUTER SHOW FOR $50.00!

Then you should have got it cause you won't find it any cheaper then $75-100 
unless the seller is nuts.

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 6741
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 10/24/93  6:01a
Subj: Re: Trade adult cd disc                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for your response.  There are about 3275 gifs, 200
animated short clips, 1000 text stories, and a bunch of
viewers and utilities on the disc.  If interested leave
your address.  Mine is:
Randy Neuner
196 Hughes St
Ft Huachuca, AZ 85613
fido 1:309/71

Randy


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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 6742
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/28/93  5:26a
Subj: Carmen San Diego for sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a NEW Where is Carmen San Diego Delux CD for sale
20.00 includes shipping
leave mail or call 602-732-0928 eves.

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From: TIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 6743
  To: GEOFF REED                               Date: 10/27/93  8:46p
Subj: Encarta                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 GR> buggy as
 GR> hell, if you use ANYTHING in encarta, after you finish, you MUST 
 GR> reboot your
 GR> computer, as the programs for accessing the data in encarta are 
 GR> buggy, and
 GR> leave the whole enviornment unstable, you'll start getting 



Must be something in your setup Geoff. I haven't had the first problem. It's a
superb reference work, and a hell of a deal at 99.00.

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From: TIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 6744
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/27/93  8:49p
Subj: Cinemania                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Microsoft Cinemania, multimedia edition for Windows. Over 19,000 movie reviews,
stills and soundtrack audio from hundreds of films. A must have for any serious
film fan.  


                                35.00

netmail 1:3803/1.4 or 318-988-1404. Will consider trades.


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From: AL BECK                                Number: 6745
  To: ERIC ENGELMANN                           Date: 10/28/93  2:36p
Subj: PROGRAMMER'S MEGAPAK: $29               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Another source for QuickBasic source code and
 > utilities is EMS PRofessional Shareware's QB Utility
 > Library CD-ROM, with 231 QuickBasic and PDS products.
 > Voice:+1(301)924-3594.
  Thanks Eric!

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 6746
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/27/93  1:10a
Subj: Bob Jackson reviews                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    We now have Bob Jackson's CD-ROM Reviews available for both Freq as 
BJREVIEW, or download at our news files since last call logon screen.
    Although we do Not carry all of titles he's reviewed we think they 
are a very good constructive source of information.  Almost all are 
adult titles, however they are not all porno, ie: busty babes.
    We are pleased to start supporting Bob Jackson's reviews and look 
forward to future contributions of titles of public interest.
    Enjoy,
    Joe Rinehart
    config.sys, Inc.
    5400 Lakewood Road
    Ravenna, Ohio 44266
                             FREQ our cd-rom catalog as CDLIST.zip

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 6747
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 10/28/93  7:48p
Subj: Re: Hot Pix                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <25 Oct 93  09:36:01>, Lee Noga (1:3618/23) writes:

 >We are now well on our way with all kinds of disc's coming, and 
 >the number of pictures will increase as well--
I am waiting...just wish I was a little more patient <grin>.
 >I just wish distribution would not sell the disc's for a few 
 >bucks over cost, because we publishers feel (those with licensed 
 >collections) will see the same disc price for 29.00 whether we put 1,000 
 >or 4,000....so why give 3,000 images away when we can make 3 more disc's 
 >??? Until distribution settles down with these bloodbath disc's, no 
 >publisher is gonna pack a disc--
I bet if you asked people here they would vote for spending a little more for 
a jammed disk (of the quality of Busty Babes Volume II) than have several 
disks on line that are not full...I like low prices don't get me wrong, I 
certainly ain't no millionare but ya gets what ya pay for, so I am willing to 
pay for it.
But we know our Venus disc will have 
 >thousands of pictures :)--Gonna get the slides next week, and there are 
 >about 3,000 of them, so hopefully we will have less then 1,000 rejection 
 >for a 2,000 image disc--
Sounds good to me, look forward to drooling on it and selling it.
 >Thanks for believing in us !! People like you make the heartache 
 >worthwhile !
Produce a good consistant product and people will beat a path to your door.
 >Hugs,
Hugs and snuggles back at ya <grin>.


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From: JEFF HUBERT                            Number: 6748
  To: ROBERT HUYNH                             Date: 10/28/93  3:27p
Subj: Cd-rom Drive for sale!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RH> $230.00??  Is it the sameone I can get for $180.00???
  > Doors' R' Us BBS - 703-204-1538

RH> === GEcho 1.00/beta
  >  * Origin: Infinite Perspectives (1:109/519)

So, they say, but the super sale where they got that drive was only for 
a limited time (ended yesterday) at a computer store and not everybody 
has access to that sale because it was only at one store. Plus it was a 
walk-in sale only (no mail order) and they had to pay sales tax on it 
bringing the price up to $190. My special price on the cd-rom drives however, 
is open to the whole country (and Canada).
Besides my price for the DOUBLE SPEED drive is very good at $229. Most 
double speed drives (without interface) go for $450 or more (NEC drives 
for example) and then you have to buy a $100 SCSI interface to hook them up. 
The cd-rom drive I am selling comes with the interface card (not SCSI but
it is 16-bit). It is also supported by OS/2 by IBM's new driver.
And finally I am willing to make some kind of deal on the final price. 
(rounding off shipping costs or make some kind of comprimise)

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 6749
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/28/93  7:27p
Subj: MS-Access Shareware CD-ROM              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the third edition of
its Access CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The October 1993 CD-ROM has
212 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 125,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: DAVE BACHMANN                          Number: 6750
  To: ALVIS COLLIER                            Date: 10/27/93  9:29p
Subj: CD ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Al Collier writes:

 AC> I have a hitachi CD-ROM drive for sale for $125 plus shipping. It
 AC> comes with one software title (not reference type) Toolworks gamespack
 AC> I  think. The drive is not a screamer but it's OK for your application.

Thanks for the offer, but as it's a present, I'd prefer dealing with
locals, warranties, etc.  Just trying to get some data and narrow down
my search.

Dave
... Error reading FAT Table.  Try Skinny one? (Y/N).
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 6751
  To: BOB MASSENGILL                           Date: 10/28/93 10:43p
Subj: Cd Player                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Bob!

Recived, thanks

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 6752
  To: HAROLD YARBROUGH                         Date: 10/29/93 12:06a
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Harold!

Sent money order on Oct.15, haven't heard from you. Will run a tracer on the
money order if you haven't recived it. Please reply as those CD's were for a
friend and he payed me for them already.
512-939-9822

Pat

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From: TODD LEMAY                             Number: 6753
  To: JIM NEUMILLER                            Date: 10/28/93  4:21p
Subj: Re: sherlock holmes                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jim,
        I have no interest in trading for another Sherlock Holmes
series. I really don't get into that stuff. If you have something else
let me know. If not my offer of $10 plus shipping still stands!


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From: JOHN RICKER                            Number: 6754
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 10/28/93  4:27p
Subj: Re: Adult Cd's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN|o| How about an even trade.  My T&A 2 The Maxx (1993) for one
  |o| of your Foxes.
  |o| Randy

Well Randy I wish I had Foxes... I would trade ya for Comanche Maximum
Overkill.... I don't have Foxes, it's one of them that I have been
looking for. What would ya like yo the T&A 2 The Max ?

John

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From: GREG GILETTO                           Number: 6755
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/26/93 10:22p
Subj: Re: CD ROM Catalog                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hi Mike, 
Im still waiting for that catalog you promissed to send me. 
 
Greg Giletto 
1699 Cumberland Place 
Greenville, NC  27858 
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From: TONY MILES                             Number: 6756
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 10/30/93  7:52a
Subj: Wanted CDPlayer                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PR>Hello All!

PR>Have 2 4meg 60 simms, trade for CDPlayer or cd's
  >512-939-9822

What CDs are you looking for?


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From: RICK WEAVER                            Number: 6757
  To: DAVID ROBERTS                            Date: 10/28/93 11:29a
Subj: Re: Cd-roms for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll give you 20 for the latter, what the hell! I've got a CD ROM, Might as
well use it! :)



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From: LAURENT SIRAPONIAN                     Number: 6758
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/25/93  2:04a
Subj: ready to buy old model Sony CDU 541 SCSI  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am ready to buy old Sony Cdrom drives at a good price.
I will take 3 or 4 of them if the price is competitive.
I know that this model (CDU 541 has be changed and replaced buy model CDU 551)
so try to indicate a good price for 3 or 4 of them.
Include price to SHIP the cdroms drive to USA or to FRANCE because I can pick
them in States or make them delivered to France.
Include also the delays and methods of payment accepted.
thanks.

those Cdroms are for bbs use so if you have any other sugestions for SCSI
cdroms drives let me know (about same price as the old Sony CDU 541 which work
great on my current bbs).

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From: JACK BROWN                             Number: 6759
  To: KIMBLE RIGNEY                            Date: 10/28/93  6:38p
Subj: Bbs defense fund                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KRJB>are instances of gross _overreaching_ on the part of the
KRJB>congresscritters and legislooters who impose laws on us.  Once in
KRJB>awhile it becomes necessary for brave souls to disregard
KRJB>inappropriate laws, the better to have them overruled in court or on
KRJB>appeal.  That's how the South's noxious segregation laws finally were
KRJB>abolished;

KR DON'T try my patience with such obscene hubris as that of KRcomparing this
fight with that against slavery and segregation.

I hope you weren't really expecting to accomplish anything with what certainly
sounds like an _order_ to refrain from posting viewpoints which "try your
patience."  IMO, the two are quite analogous.  If that opinion "tries your
patience", well, feel free to hit Enter and move on.  Also feel free to take a
long walk on a short dock.  But only if you want to, of course - I wouldn't
think of ordering you around, because I wouldn't want to risk resembling the
pompous @$$ that you appear to be.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6760
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/29/93  1:10a
Subj: OS/2BOX NOW SHIPPING!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6761
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/29/93  1:10a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICES pt 1                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..49.00
 20th Century Video Almanac....32.00    Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00
 5-Star Premium Windows........27.00    Microsoft Golf MPC (New!).....48.50
 7th Guest.....................39.00    Microsoft Musical Instruments.57.00
 9-Digit Zip Code Guide (New!).32.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........49.00
 9000 Sounds (New!)............25.00    Middle East Diary.............35.00
 Action Traveler (New!)........32.00    MIDI Music Shop...............26.50
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...25.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Monarch Notes.................48.00
 American Business Phonebk 91..17.00    Money, Money, Money!..........28.00
 American Business Phonebk 92..19.00    Monster Media 93 vol 2 (New!).29.00
 American Business Phonebk 93..25.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Aminet Amiga..................15.00    Mother of All Clipart.........23.50
 Anecdotes 1...................14.50    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Anecdotes 2...................14.50    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....24.00
 Anecdotes 3...................14.50    National Geographic Mammals...25.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......19.00    National Parks................24.50
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....25.50    Newsweek Interactive (New!)...26.50
 Arizona Images (New!).........25.00    Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Audubon's Birds...............23.00    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    Night Owl 8.0.................24.00
 Battle Chess..................25.00    Night Owl 9.0.................25.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 10.0 (In Stock!)....29.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 9/10 2-Pak..........49.00
 Beyond the Wall of Stars......24.50    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl Games (New!)........29.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    Night Owl Graphics (New!).....29.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    North American Fax Book.......36.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....13.00    Original Shareware............10.00
 Business Master...............20.00    OS/2Box (In Stock!)...........29.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    Our Solar System..............13.00
 California Collection.........17.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....27.00
 Canadian Shareware (New!).....19.00    PC-SIG 12.....................24.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    PC-SIG 13 (Pre-orders)........33.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-SIG Windows (New!).........19.00
 CD Powerbox ($6 w/ any order).15.00    PC Gameroom...................27.00
 CD Winbox 1.01................25.00    PC Karaoke w/ Microphone......68.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Pentomino.....................28.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phoenix 3.0 ($6 w/ any order).10.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phoenix 4.0 (New!)............19.00
 Clipart Galore................25.00    Phonedisc USA.................69.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 2........................24.00
 Clipart Heaven................25.00    Pier 3 (In Stock!)............39.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00    Pier 2/3 Pak..................49.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    Pixel Garden..................34.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Composer Quest................33.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency....95.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0.............15.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....64.00    Precision Mapping.............74.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6762
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/29/93  1:10a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICES pt 2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....64.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Computer Reference Library....13.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........29.00
 Conan the Cimmerian...........29.00    Project Gutenberg (New!)......22.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....34.50    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak.......... 98.00
 Cookbook Heaven...............23.00    ProPhone 1993 Business........29.00
 Cybergenic Ranger (New!)......27.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Dagger of Amon Ra.............34.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Day of the Tentacle (New!)....44.50    Publisher's Powerhouse (New!).33.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Desert Storm..................33.50    Reader's Library..............26.50
 Desktop Bookshop..............22.50    Reel Clips (New!).............29.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Reference Library.............24.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...37.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............33.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
 Dinosaurs!....................34.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
 Dr. Games (New!)..............20.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
 Dr. Music (New!)..............20.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Dr. Shareware (New!)..........20.00    Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......51.00
 Dr. Windows (New!)............20.00    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..42.00
 DTPro.........................28.50    Shareware Online 1............25.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Online 2 (New!).....29.00
 Electronic Cookbook (New!)....29.00    Shareware Overload............13.00
 Electronic Home Library.......29.00    Shareware Studio 1............19.00
 Empire Clipart................19.50    Shareware Studio 2............23.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Shareware Studio 3 (New!).....25.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 European Monarchs.............35.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.00
 Family Doctor.................26.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...53.00
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......26.50    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...55.00
 Firearms Reference (New!).....25.00    Sights & Sounds...............24.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Font Master 2.................28.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Shareware 1...........19.00
 Fractunes (New!)..............30.00    So Much Shareware 2...........23.00
 Fresh Arte....................34.00    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....25.00
 Funny (New!)..................33.00    So Much Space (New!)..........24.00
 Game Arena (New!).............13.00    Software Vault 1..............19.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....22.00
 Game Pack 2...................25.00    Software Vault Gold (New!)....25.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..19.00
 Gameware Collection...........24.00    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Gardening (New!)..............13.00    Soundware Collection..........24.00
 GIF Galaxy (New!).............24.00    SoundWAV......................25.00
 GIF's Galore (G-Rated)........16.50    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Giga Games (New!).............23.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Global Explorer...............85.00    Space Quest IV................23.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Space Shuttle (New!)..........25.00
 Grammy Awards.................36.00    Space Time and Art (New!).....34.50
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........29.50

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
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 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6763
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/29/93  1:10a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICES pt 3                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Stellar 7.....................19.50
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...23.00    Straight from Heaven (New!)...19.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 93...33.00    Street Atlas USA v2 (New!)....94.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    STW Illustrated Encyclopedia..34.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    STW Multimedia Encyclopedia...44.00
 Hamware 1993..................23.00    STW MPC Encyclopedia..........45.50
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Super Games For Windows.......10.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........35.50
 Home Designer (New!)..........32.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........35.50
 Home/Business Legal Guide.....13.00    Technotools...................13.00
 House of Games................18.50    Tempra Access Photo Software..21.00
 Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Interactive Story Time 3......38.00    Timetable of Business/Politic.26.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....39.00    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........39.00    Total Baseball................27.00
 Jets & Props..................28.50    Trump Castle..................28.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00    U.S./World Atlas 3.0..........23.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............39.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 King's Quest V................20.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 King's Quest VI (Retail Box)..39.00    U.S. Wars: Civil War..........34.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........19.00    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 La Colleccion (Spanish S/W)...24.50    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............34.00
 Lan Master (New!).............25.00    U.S. Wars: WWII...............34.00
 Languages of the World........39.00    USA Today: The 90's (New!)....36.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00    VGA Spectrum 1................13.00
 Learning Heaven (New!)........19.00    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    Visions of Saturn.............23.00
 Libris Britannia..............42.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Loom..........................19.00    Wildcat Gold..................27.50
 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...39.00    Win Platinum (New!)...........24.00
 Mac Shareware (New!)..........22.00    Window Master.................20.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........34.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Mad Dog McCree (New!).........39.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Majestic Places...............38.50    World Atlas MPC...............26.50
 Manhole.......................34.50    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mantis........................24.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    World Traveler................13.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World View....................24.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............27.00    World Vision 3-Pak............39.00
 Mega Clipart..................27.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf 1992 MPC..39.00    X11R5/GNU.....................24.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6764
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 10/29/93  1:10a
Subj: TOP 5 NEW CD'S                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RL>Can you tell me a bit more about this one? How many megs are onboard? How
RL>does it compare to the CICA windows disk? I'm very interested.

Not sure about the total megs, but it's setup as a self-contained CD, with
most of the programs designed to be run directly off the disc.  More recent
files than CICA.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: ALVIS COLLIER                          Number: 6765
  To: GARY NIELSON                             Date: 10/28/93 12:40p
Subj: WANT TO BUY A CD ROM DRI                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GARY NIELSON said to ALL  about WANT TO BUY A CD ROM DRIV on 10-24-93 
GN>I'm in the market for a used CD ROM drive for a bbs. External. Anyone
GN>got one they'd like to sell?

Gary,

   I have a Hitachi DRM3700 CD-ROM thats ideal for a BBS. Access is slow 
at 450MS but throughput is OK at 153K. And the price is 125 SHIPPED 
to your door 2nd day! What do you think? Let me know OK. I can be 
reached at the number below or you can leave a message on this echo and 
HOPE it gets to me (g).CYA

     Alvis 'AL' L. Collier, Colliers & Associates Automation
  10B 3rd Street West, Universal City, TX 78148, [210] 658-7331

Thanks a lot! {alc}
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From: ALVIS COLLIER                          Number: 6766
  To: CAM LERCH                                Date: 10/28/93 12:49p
Subj: CD-ROM WANTED! SLOW!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CL> Hi, I'm looking for a slow CD-ROM drive.. I would prefer it to
CL> come w controller card.. maybe around 700ms.. cheap please.. I've
CL> seen them $99.00 and I'm looking around $110.00 American.. So if
CL> you have a CD- that you could sell me.. please reply here..

Cam,

   I have just the thing for you! Hitachi CDR3600U CD-ROM with 
controller, caddy, and cables (including Audio cable), and one CD 
(Toolworks Game Pack), tech specs are;
 mode1 - 553.0MBytes, 153.6KB/Sec, 550MSec
 mode2 - 630.7MBytes, 175.2KB/Sec, 450MSec
also comes with 'Y-Cable' power connector. I'm asking $125 (that 
includes 2nd day shipping in US. Let me know what you think about this 
OK. I can be contacted at the number below or leave a message via this 
echo. CYA.......

     Alvis 'AL' L. Collier, Colliers & Associates Automation
  10B 3rd Street West, Universal City, TX 78148, [210] 658-7331

Thanks a lot! {alc}
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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 6767
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 10/28/93  9:28a
Subj: Re: Trade adult cd disc                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Blaine Richard <10-24-93 06:01> Randy Neuner wrote:
 RN> Thanks for your response.  There are about 3275 gifs, 200
 RN> animated short clips, 1000 text stories, and a bunch of
 RN> viewers and utilities on the disc.  If interested leave
 RN> your address.

Randy I'll trade, you can contact me at:

Blaine Richard
1066 Timberline Rd.
Apopka, Fl 32703
407-886-2853
                        Thanks Blaine

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From: MIKE POMPURA                           Number: 6768
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 10/28/93  2:01p
Subj: NEC MODEL 36 READERS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Gawd you made my day...
 
I have an old old NEC exterior drive sitting here to my immediate left that
cost me nearly 500 or 600 dollars several years ago.  It woke up one morning
and just decided not to get out of bed anymore.  I traced the problem down to
the small board in the NEC SCSI hardware unit.  
 
These drives you are selling - I don't remember if you mentioned, were they new
or used?  
 

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From: CORY PALMER                            Number: 6769
  To: KAWAI WONG                               Date: 10/28/93  6:38a
Subj: Re: Swimwear CD needed!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Call Joe Rinehart at 216-296-9821.
He has the best prices anywhere and the best service.  
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From: CORY PALMER                            Number: 6770
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/28/93  6:46a
Subj: Best cd dealer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

First of all i am not affiliated in any way with this dealer except as a
customer.

for the best service and UNBEATALE prices of over 800 cd-rom titles call:

Joe Rinehart
5400 Lakewood Road
Ravenna, Ohio 44266-9565
voice 216-296-9831
message 216-297-1322

I ordered my first cd from him a week or so ago and he CALLED me and said that
the pressing house was going to delay the cd i order by a couple of week
(Traci, I Love You), but then the cd showed up 2 days ølater.  I just placed
another order with him for 2 more cds which I am expecting anytime now.  

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From: MIKE MAST                              Number: 6771
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 10/28/93  8:47p
Subj: NO 10                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for delivering the NO 10 disk for $23 total.  Great price and great
disk!
 
Regards,
Mike
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From: FREDERICK A. BURGESS                   Number: 6772
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 10/27/93  4:42p
Subj: RE:CD-Rom Catalog!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
 >   Hello, Everyone!   I would like to tell you that Computer Works now
 > Programming, 131 are Reference, 91 are Shareware, 31 are Travel, and 9
 > are Utility CD's.  We will beat anyone's price on any CD.  Also, we now
 > have Hardware in our Catalog, so, if you would like a copy of our NEW
 > catalog, just leave your address and we will mail one to you.  If you
 > would like to make an inquiry about a certain or several CD's, just
 > leave me a message.  Thank you for your time! 


Here's the Address

F.A. Burgess
505 Broadmeadows Blvd #211
Columbus, Ohio  43214

And for Netmail it's

1:226/580.0@Fidonet.Org
42:614/10.0@CrymsonNet
44:/226/580.0@RecoveryNet



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From: ANDREW JONES                           Number: 6773
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/28/93  7:55p
Subj: Shareware cd-roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I haven't had my cd-rom drive very long and have been interested in
getting a shareware CD or two (BBSing is getting to be too much for my
poor phone bill). I was wondering if anyone could recommend a title and
from where I may obtain it (also, price).
Here is what I'm looking for:
  Something of between 400 and 650 meg
  Something with lots of different types of files: clipart, GIFS,
utilities, Games, Sound files, etc.
  And something whose files are easily accesible through DOS (for
someone who is NOT using it for a BBS)
If anyone can give me any information, it would be greatly appreciated.

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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 6774
  To: MARK MCCONACHIE                          Date: 10/29/93 11:17a
Subj: Mitsumi CD 4Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mark- Thanks for the interest, but the drive is already sold. Sorry.

-hk
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 6775
  To: HOWARD ONEIL                             Date: 10/29/93 11:18a
Subj: Mitsumi CD 4Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Howard- Sorry, the drive is already sold. I'll archive your message with
the offer in case the deal goes sour or something, however. Thanks for
the interest.

-hk
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 6776
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 10/29/93  5:10a
Subj: Re: CDs                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SHOWOFF!, as packaged w/BB, is a basic viewer with slide show  capabilities.
It's not as robust as VPIC, GDS, CSHOW, etc. There is a  shareware version
packaged w/BB II, but it's pretty crippled. The full  versions require
registration ($54.90 incl. shipping) which, IMO, is  pretty steep. By
comparison, GDS registration is $40. 
Thanks for the kind words about the reviews. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 6777
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/29/93  5:13a
Subj: CD Reviews                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The Hard Disc Cafe where I post my reviews recently had a HDD crash and  about
two weeks worth of files were lost. If you tried to FREQ or D/L  some of my
past CD reviews and couldn't find them, that may have been the  reason. All
should be restored by now. 
The HDD crash came about the time I posted the review of Busty Babes  Volume
II. Would someone please tell me if they've seen that review so  I'll know if
it got out OK? Thanks. 
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: DON NELSON                             Number: 6778
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/29/93  2:33a
Subj: CD/WinBox                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can anyone tell me how to get the CD/Winbox viewer program running?

The WPOWER.EXE that was installed on my hard disk is dated 7-29-93, and is
506726 bytes.

Everytime I try to execute it, I get the (infamous) Windows (3.1) message
about not having enough memory, quit some applications and try again.  Well, I
have nothing running when I try that.  System resources show 85% free, with 14
megabytes on the other line.

What gives?

Later,

Don 
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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 6779
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/29/93  1:45a
Subj: Adult November Titles                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                  "NEW & IMPROVED USER-FRIENDLY PRICE LIST!"
       "WE DON'T CARE ABOUT MAKING MONEY - WE JUST LOVE TO SELL CD'S!"
        Over 750 disc titles & hardware products are now available.
To order, contact:
                                 Joe Rinehart
                              5400 Lakewood Road
                           Ravenna, Ohio 44266-9565
  Voice: (216) 296-9831  24 hours
  Voice: (216) 296-1633 6pm-midnight (EST)
  Voice/Messages/Fax: (216) 297-1332 24 hours
  Toll-Free (in Ohio Only) 1-800-521-2881 6pm - midnight (EST)
  Data/Fax (216) 296-4446 ZyXel 16.8 v.42bis The Blue Parrot RBBS 24HRS
  FidoNet: 1:157/479
  KesherNet: 18:711/176
  RBBSNet: 8:965/13
  WWIVNet: 2@2659
  CD CATALOG FREQ:  CDLIST.ZIP or majic name CDLIST
  COMPLETE CATALOG FREQ:  PARROT.ZIP (contains all products new & used)

SHIPPING TERMS:  Purchaser pays shipping!  $5.00 C.O.D.Charge, 2 lbs or less
for $2.90 second day U.S.P.S. Priority Mail.  $1.00 Handling fee on orders
under $50.00.  International orders shipped acccording to U.S.Customs
regulations.

MISC. INFORMATION:
Make checks payable to:  Carl Knorr or Joe Rinehart
10% discount for verified sysops or resale orders over $250!
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Title                                 Category   Price        Notes    |
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CD Caddies                                  mi    5.00  with disc order 4.50
New Machine CD Adult Sampler ROM             a   10.00
SuperSpace                                   a   16.00
Hawaii CD                                    a   19.00
Island Girls                                 a   19.00
Local Girls                                  a   19.00
Hacker Whacker Fun Pack                      a   21.00
Women of Venus                               a   22.40
Exotic Girls                                 a   24.00
Smutware                                     a   24.00
Surfs up!                                    a   24.00
Swimwear 1993                                a   24.00
Tropical Girls                               a   24.00
Gifs Galaxy                                  a   25.60
Digital Dreams                               a   27.20
Adult Palette                                a   28.80
Amateur Model                                a   28.80
Animation Festival                           a   28.80
Extreme Delight (adult CD)                   a   28.80
Giffy Gold                                   a   28.80
Busty Babes Volume 2 - Brand new!            a   29.00
American Girls (200 soft nudes)              a   30.40
High Volume Nudes                            a   30.40
Photo Gallery by Steve Hicks                 a   31.97
Southern Beauties                            a   32.50
Island Girls V2 (3cds)                       a   33.00
Local Girls Volume 2 (3cds)                  a   33.00
Lovely Ladies II                             a   36.80
Busting Out/vivid Digital                    a   38.40
Debbie Does Dallas                           a   38.40
Deep Throat                                  a   38.40
Insatiable                                   a   38.40
New Wave Hookers Vol. 1                      a   38.40
New Wave Hookers Vol. 2                      a   38.40
Rimfire Pacific Video                        a   38.40
Seedy Movies                                 a   38.40
Traci, I Love You.                           a   38.40
Girls of Vivid #1                            a   39.00
Girls of Vivid #2                            a   39.00
Café Flesh                                   a   39.97
101 Sex Positions #1                         a   40.00
101 Sex Positions #2                         a   40.00
After Dark Trilogy                           a   40.00
Dirty Talk                                   a   40.00
Fractal Ecstasy                              a   40.00
Mystic of the Orient                         a   41.60
Legends of Porn vol. 2                       a   44.80
My First Time                                a   44.80
Nightwatch                                   a   44.80
Best of Vivid                                a   46.40
House of Sleeping Beauties                   a   46.40
Kama Sutra                                   a   46.40
L A Strippers (Interactive)                  a   46.40
Adventures of Seymour Butts                  a   48.00
Adventures of Seymour Butts Windows          a   48.00
Digital Dancing                              a   48.00
Dream Machine (IBM)                          a   48.00
Dream Machine (Macintosh)                    a   48.00
Erotic Dreams (R-Rated Interactive)          a   48.00
Hidden Obsessions                            a   48.00
House of Dreams Digital Movies               a   48.00
Night Trips Interactive Adult                a   48.00
PGGl - Adult Gif disk by Groupware           a   48.00
Relationship Enhancement Series v1           a   48.00
Betrayal Quicktime Movie                     a   50.00
Cat and Mouse (Quicktime)                    a   50.00
Wicked - DOS version                         a   50.00
Wicked - Windows                             a   50.00
Club Paradise                                a   51.00
Wickedmovie (ONLY) Quicktime                 a   51.25
Glamour Girls of 1943                        a   54.00
Buttman                                      a   56.00
Interactive Adult Almanac/Macintosh          a   68.60
Donatelli Portfolio                          a   79.00
Interactive Adult Almanac (IBM)              a   79.00

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 6780
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/29/93  1:47a
Subj: ***Shareware titles***                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                  "NEW & IMPROVED USER-FRIENDLY PRICE LIST!"
       "WE DON'T CARE ABOUT MAKING MONEY - WE JUST LOVE TO SELL CD'S!"
        Over 750 disc titles & hardware products are now available.
To order, contact:
                                 Joe Rinehart
                              5400 Lakewood Road
                           Ravenna, Ohio 44266-9565
  Voice: (216) 296-9831  24 hours
  Voice: (216) 296-1633 6pm-midnight (EST)
  Voice/Messages/Fax: (216) 297-1332 24 hours
  Toll-Free (in Ohio Only) 1-800-521-2881 6pm - midnight (EST)
  Data/Fax (216) 296-4446 ZyXel 16.8 v.42bis The Blue Parrot RBBS 24HRS
  FidoNet: 1:157/479
  KesherNet: 18:711/176
  RBBSNet: 8:965/13
  WWIVNet: 2@2659
  CD CATALOG FREQ:  CDLIST.ZIP or majic name CDLIST
  COMPLETE CATALOG FREQ:  PARROT.ZIP (contains all products new & used)

SHIPPING TERMS:  Purchaser pays shipping!  $5.00 C.O.D.Charge, 2 lbs or less
for $2.90 second day U.S.P.S. Priority Mail.  $1.00 Handling fee on orders
under $50.00.  International orders shipped acccording to U.S.Customs
regulations.

MISC. INFORMATION:
Make checks payable to:  Carl Knorr or Joe Rinehart
10% discount for verified sysops or resale orders over $250!
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Title                                 Category   Price        Notes    |
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CD Caddies                                  mi    5.00  with disc order 4.50
PC Sig 7                                    sh    7.25
PC Sig 9                                    sh    7.25
Phoenix 3.0                                 sh    8.70
Ham Radio                                   sh   10.88
Original Shareware l992                     sh   10.88
Shareware Overload                          sh   10.88
Windoware                                   sh   10.88
Windows Plus                                sh   10.88
Software Vault I                            sh   11.60
The California Collection                   sh   11.60
VGA Spectrum I                              sh   11.60
Wizpack                                     sh   11.60
1001 Utilities                              sh   13.05
America's Premier Shareware                 sh   13.05
CICA Microsoft windows                      sh   13.05
QRZ Ham Radio                               sh   13.05
Shareware Heaven                            sh   13.05
Software Vault II                           sh   13.05
Super CD II                                 sh   13.05
Remstar Vol. I                              sh   14.50
Shareware Studio II                         sh   14.50
VGA Spectrum II                             sh   14.50
Adventures in Heaven                        sh   15.95
Learning Heaven                             sh   15.95
Phoenix Rom 4.0                             sh   15.95
Doctor of Shareware                         sh   17.40
Doctor of Windows                           sh   17.40
Games Bonanza + Anti virus (1993)           sh   17.40
Hamware 1993                                sh   17.40
Info MAC shareware for Macintosh            sh   17.40
Mega CD rom 1                               sh   17.40
Night Owl 4.1                               sh   17.40
Night Owl 4.2                               sh   17.40
PC Sig World of Windows                     sh   17.40
Power Pak Gold                              sh   17.40
Shareware Gold II                           sh   17.40
Shareware Online I                          sh   17.40
Shareware Online Volume 2                   sh   17.40
Shareware Tiger                             sh   17.40
Straight from Heaven                        sh   17.40
Top 2000+ Shareware                         sh   17.40
Ultimate Shareware Collection               sh   17.40
Up All Night                                sh   17.40
Windows Master                              sh   17.40
Windows Shareware Gold Vol 3                sh   17.40
Business Tools                              sh   18.85
Media Library Mega Media 1                  sh   18.85
Media Library Mega Media 2                  sh   18.85
Media Library-- Mega Media 3                sh   18.85
DataBase Made Easy                          sh   20.30
ASP Advantage (ASP Shareware)               sh   20.30  (Released 10/18/93)
All American Shareware Galore               sh   21.75
Doctor of Fun Pack                          sh   21.75
Hacker Chronicles                           sh   21.75
PC Sig 12                                   sh   21.75
Phoenix Phun & Games                        sh   21.75
Shareware 1993 September                    sh   21.75
So Much Shareware 2                         sh   21.75
So Much Shareware 3                         sh   21.75
Ultimate Shareware Collection 2             sh   21.75
Windows 1993                                sh   21.75
MS-Dos Explorer-- Volume 3                  sh   23.20
Night Owl 9                                 sh   24.65
Night Owl Graphics ROM                      sh   24.65
Resource Library Language Operation         sh   24.65
Winware #3                                  sh   24.65
Monster Media 93                            sh   26.10
Shareware Avalanche                         sh   26.10
Shareware Explorer WINDOWS version          sh   26.10
Gigabyte Gold                               sh   27.55
Mega A/V 1                                  sh   27.55
Mega CD rom 2                               sh   27.55
Mega WIN/OS2                                sh   27.55
Shareware Perlen 2                          sh   27.55
Amsoft World of Ham Radio Vol. II           sh   31.90
RBBS in a Box                               sh   31.90
Night Owl 10                                sh   32.63
Lion Share                                  sh   36.25
Shareware Extravaganza                      sh   40.60
Wildcat Gold                                sh   42.05
World Vision                                sh   42.05
Shareware Magic                             sh   43.50
Libris Britannia                            sh   47.85
Shareware Explorer Quad Vers/4 ROMS         sh   50.00
Hamcall - April 1993                        sh   53.00
Windows Paradise                            sh   75.00

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From: MIGUEL GARCIA                          Number: 6781
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/28/93  4:59p
Subj: CD Cybergentic Ranger                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hello Mike,

Can you give me some information on this title?

MS> Cybergenic Ranger (New!)......27.00

Thanks,

Miguel


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From: KAWAI WONG                             Number: 6782
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 10/29/93  2:12a
Subj: CDROM Systems                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÿ@ORIGIN :MicroSolutions BBS-(615) 868-3163 USR v32b/v42b (1:116/109) N
-> **************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
-> Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI

   Do you have an external one for this model??  If so, how much??
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From: CHARLIE PARKER                         Number: 6783
  To: ZACH WILLIAMS                            Date: 10/29/93  6:11p
Subj: BUSTY BABES 1 FOR SALE!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   Hey, That is a cd of some pretty women but if you are wanting some high
rez. pics 1024x768 256 get one called Southern Beauties. Very good.
   I have them both plus one called Ecstasy, and southern beauties is the
best.

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From: CHARLIE PARKER                         Number: 6784
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 10/29/93  6:16p
Subj: Hot Pix                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   Hey that is a good cd, have you looked at one called southern beauties.
they are in 1024x768 256 colors. They are the best that I have seen.

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From: CHARLIE PARKER                         Number: 6785
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 10/29/93  6:21p
Subj: BUSTY BABES 1                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  who says this Busty Babes Vol. #1 is a collectors version. Let me know
because I have one.  Thanxz

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 6786
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 10/17/93  9:23a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 12 Oct 93  22:36:02, I heard Greg Sterling shout to All:

GS> INTERESTED IN BUYING OR TRADING FOR BUSTY BABES 1 CD.  LET ME KNOW IF YOU'D
GS> LIKE TO MAKE A DEAL.  (I HAVE A LOT OF BASEBALL AND HOCKEY CARDS IF
GS> INTERESTED.)

I have three copies of the Collectors edition of Busty babes 1, But Not 
interested in any cards, How about computer Equipment, Or Money... ?

                   ......|<evin

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 6787
  To: JOHN RICKER                              Date: 10/17/93  9:24a
Subj: Re: Getting into the Business           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 13 Oct 93  16:50:00, I heard John Ricker shout to All:

JR> Hi there All,
JR> 
JR> I was wondering if anyone could tell me how I would go about getting
JR> into the CD-ROM business (sell the CD's).. I would appreciate any
JR> information that you could provide..

Here you go:
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==========>>>>>>  W A N T E D     D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========

  Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers


  Cheapest Prices around !!!!

   Or send Name, A fax Number, Or phone Number to where you can be
  reached to 1:231/570

                                        1-800-865-5354
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 6788
  To: ERIC SANTELICES                          Date: 10/17/93  9:27a
Subj: Re: Latest Shareware CD-ROM             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 14 Oct 93  08:31:01, I heard Eric Santelices shout to All:

ES> What is the latest SHAREWARE CD-ROM on the market.  I want one that was
ES> produced with in the last 6 mon.  I would also like it to support FILES.BBS
ES> description structures.
ES>   
ES> Any suggestions?

Here ya Go:

         ------>>>>>>  N I G H T  O W L  10  <<<<<<--------

* Over 5,100 NEW Files   * Over 647 Meg's    * No Dupes   * Virus Checked
* No Dupes To v9.0       * All Zipped Files  * New Viewer * and  More  !!
The  ALL NEW  "Night Owl 10 "  is here  and ready  for  delievery  !! All
programs on this cd were written or updated between Jan 1st and  Sept 1st
1993.  In fact, 100megs of the total files are from Sept 1993.In addition,
N.O has a mouse driven GUI interface for both DOS and Windows !!

                        PRICE - $29.00

============]  US/CAN  800-638-5757  FAX 317-878-5982  [==================

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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 6789
  To: KEITH SHEEHAN                            Date: 10/26/93  9:06a
Subj: OS/2BOX & HOBBES                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 KS> Mike I've heard that there is going to be a new release 
 KS> of the Hobbes OS/2 disc soon. Have you heard anythng in 
 KS> reguards to this? I know about the OS/2 Box CD and I'm 
 KS> eagarly awaiting it. I'll send a check when it's out. 
 KS> I' e heard that Hobbes has more on the disk though 
 KS> (about 600Meg) compared to the 350Meg that OS/2 Box 
 KS> has. Can you verify this?

Keith, don't forget the Hobbes CD has lots of 1.x stuff and many worthless
things while the OS/2 Box is all 2.x.  Ask yourself if half the stuff on the
Hobbes disk is 2.x, having accessed that sight (frequently) I don't think that
is the case at all.


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6790
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/26/93  4:55p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST     1/3               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                             Brice's Library
                     CD-ROM Price List 26 October 1993

                      5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
                          Indianapolis, IN 46220
                        Tue Thu  11 AM - 8 PM   EST
                        Wed Fri  11 AM - 6 PM   EST
                (317) 726-1980 voice   (317) 726-1387 BBS
         FidoNet 1:231/190  UseNet towers.rn.com!mgcind!sfbhq!sysop

                All prices include any applicable Sales Tax
               Shipping included to U.S. addresses if prepaid

 $ 14 1001 Utilities                     $ 39 Lost Treasures of Infocom II
 $ 29 5 Star Premium DOS                 $ 35 Lovely Ladies II
 $ 19 501 Sound Waves                    $ 49 Lyric Language French
 $ 52 7'th Guest                         $ 49 Lyric Language Spanish
 $ 35 9 Digit Zip Code Directory         $ 30 MacMillan Dictionary for Children
 $ 25 9000 Sounds                        $ 50 Mad Dog McCree
 $ 39 A Christmas Carol                  $ 35 Made in the USA
 $ 41 A Line in the Sand                 $ 22 Magazine Rack
 $ 27 A Long Hard Day at the Ranch       $ 35 Majestic Places
 $ 42 A+ Grade Builder                   $ 24 Mammals (Nat. Geographic)
 $ 30 About Cows                         $ 37 Manhole
 $ 30 ADA Programming                    $ 20 Mantis Experimental Fighter (OEM)
 $ 37 Adventures                         $299 Map Expert w/ Street Atlas USA
 $ 69 Adventures of Pinocchio (MAC)      $ 26 Mario is Missing w/World Atlas
 $ 20 Adventures of Willy Beamish        $ 42 Masterpiece Library
 $ 27 Aesop's Fables                     $ 49 Matinee Screen Saver
 $ 70 Ageis Guardian Fleet               $ 24 Mavis Beacon Teach Typing (MPC)
 $ 58 Air Warrier                        $ 25 Mayo Clinic (MPC)
 $ 28 Aircraft Encyclopedia              $ 29 Mega A/V
 $ 39 Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp     $ 42 Mega Movie Guide
 $ 40 Aloha, Hawaii!                     $ 36 Microprose Collection
 $ 69 Amanda Stories                     $ 52 Microsoft Bookshelf '93 (MPC)
 $ 66 Amazing Universe                   $ 98 Microsoft Dinosaurs
 $ 15 American Business Phone Book '92   $270 Microsoft Encarta
 $ 25 American Business Phone Book '93   $ 61 Microsoft Musical Instruments
 $ 66 American Heritage Ilus Ency Dict   $ 40 Microsoft Works
 $ 49 American Journey 1896-1945         $ 30 Middle East Diary
 $ 38 American Vista                     $ 53 MIDI Connection
 $ 60 American Vista (MAC)               $ 24 MIDI Music Shop for Windows
 $ 15 America's Premier Shareware        $ 84 Mist Mac
 $ 66 Americans in Space                 $ 19 Mixed Up Mother Goose
 $ 20 Aminet                             $ 58 Monarch Notes
 $ 15 Anecdotes                          $ 30 Money, Money, Money!
 $ 22 Animals of San Diego Zoo (DOS)     $ 27 Monster Media '93
 $ 22 Animals of San Diego Zoo (MPC)     $ 31 Mother Earth II
 $ 30 Animation Festival (MPC)           $ 16 Mother of All Clip Art
 $ 74 Annabel's Dream of Ancient Egypt   $ 27 Moving Gives Me a Stomachache
 $ 25 Arthur's Teacher Trouble (MPC)     $ 44 Mowgli's Brothers
 $ 59 Arthur's Teacher Trouble (Mac)     $ 37 Mozart Multimedia Musicbook
 $ 30 Atlas of U.S. Presidents           $ 14 MPC Wizard
 $ 18 Audio Collection (MPC)             $ 27 Mud Puddle
 $ 19 Audubon's Birds                    $ 25 Multimedia Computor Tutor
 $ 19 Audubon's Mammals (MPC)            $ 46 Murder Makes Strange Deadfellows
 $ 45 Authorware Star                    $ 57 Murmurs of Earth (3 discs)
 $ 89 Autodesk Explorer                  $ 49 My Advanced Label Designer
 $ 58 B17 Flying Fortress                $ 24 National Parks (MultiMedia)
 $ 16 Barney Bear Goes to School         $ 59 Nautilus Backpack Vol.I
 $ 16 Barney Bear Goes to Space          $ 59 Nautilus Backpack Vol.II
 $ 33 Barron's Book Notes                $ 35 New Basics Electronic Cookbook
 $ 21 Battle Chess (original)            $ 25 New York at it's Best
 $ 25 Battle Chess (enhanced version)    $ 20 Night Owl Business Software
 $ 19 Beauty and the Beast               $ 26 Night Owl Graphics
 $ 63 Beethoven: The Ninth Symphony      $ 24 Night Owl 9
 $ 27 Benjamin Bunny                     $ 30 Night Owl 10
 $ 66 Better H&G Healthy Cooking         $ 28 North American Fax Phonebook
 $ 28 Beyond the Wall of Stars           $ 26 North American Indians
 $ 53 Blue Force                         $ 20 NOVA (for NeXT)
 $ 55 Book of Lists #3                   $ 74 Ocean in Motion (QT)
 $ 25 Britain at it's Best               $ 30 Officer's Bookcase
 $ 16 Britannica Select Software         $  9 Original Shareware 1992
 $ 10 Business Assistant                 $ 44 Our House
 $ 30 Business Backgrounds               $ 12 Our Solar System
 $ 49 Business Library v.1               $119 Oxford English Reference Library
 $ 36 Business Made Easy                 $ 35 Pacific Islands
 $ 18 Business Master I                  $ 27 Paper Bag Princess
 $ 19 Business Master II                 $ 18 PC Game Room
 $ 26 C User's Group Library             $ 28 PC Medic
 $ 12 California Collection              $ 22 PC-SIG #12
 $ 39 California/Hawaii Golf Guide       $ 12 PC-SIG Games
 $ 41 California Travel                  $ 12 PC-SIG Home and Business
 $ 40 Cameron's Fine Art Catalog         $ 16 PC-SIG World of Games
 $ 30 Career Opportunities               $ 16 PC-SIG World of Windows
 $ 49 Case of the Cautious Condor        $ 28 Pentominoes
 $ 30 CD CAD v3.7                        $ 19 Peter and the Wolf (MPC)
 $ 19 CD Funhouse                        $ 30 Pharmacist Guide to Drugs
 $ 39 CD Funhouse (Boxed)                $ 11 Phoenix #3
 $ 20 CD Powerbox                        $ 16 Phoenix #4
 $ 48 CD ROM Deluxe Pack                 $ 24 Phoenix Phun Games
 $ 20 CD WinBox                          $ 73 Phonedisc USA Business
 $ 47 Chess Maniac 5 Billion             $ 70 Phonedisc USA Residential
 $ 24 Chessmaster 3000                   $ 99 Photo Pro Vol. 1
 $ 24 CIA World Fact Book                $ 99 Photo Pro Vol. 2
 $ 30 CIA World Fact Book (MultiMedia)   $ 99 Photo Pro Vol. 3
 $ 15 CICA Windows                       $ 18 Photo Pro Vol. 3 (OEM)
 $ 27 Cinderella                         $109 Picture Atlas of the World
 $ 59 Cinemania                          $ 99 Pilgram Quest
 $ 30 Classic Clips Trailers             $ 30 Pixel Garden
 $ 50 Classic Collection+ (4 discs)      $ 33 Pixel Perfect Graphics
 $ 27 Clipart Galore                     $ 30 Plant Doctor
 $ 12 Clip Art Goliath                   $ 29 Playing with Languages  English
 $ 15 Clipart Heaven                     $ 29 Playing with Languages  French
 $ 35 Clipmaster Pro                     $ 29 Playing with Languages  German
 $ 69 CNN Newsroom Globalview            $ 29 Playing with Languages  Italian
 $ 30 Coates Art Review: Impressionism   $ 29 Playing with Languages  Japanese
 $ 26 Colormagic Clip Art                $ 29 Playing with Languages  Spanish
 $ 12 Colossal Cookbook                  $ 66 Pop & Politics
 $ 63 Complete Audubon                   $ 22 Power Tools
 $ 12 Complete Bookshop                  $ 18 Powerpack Gold 3 (update)
 $ 15 Complete Home/Office Legal Guide   $ 79 Precision Mapping #1.5
 $ 40 Complete House                     $ 41 Prescription Drugs
 $ 35 Composer Quest                     $ 49 Private Eye Mysteries
 $ 69 Composer Quest (Boxed)             $ 30 Programmer's ROM
 $ 26 Compton's Family Choice            $ 20 Project Gutenburg
 $249 Compton's Family Encyclopedia      $ 42 Prophone 1992 (3 discs)
 $ 97 Compton's Interactive Encycl.      $100 Prophone 1993 (7 discs?)
 $ 12 Computer Referance Library         $ 25 Prophone Business Directory '93
 $ 44 Conan the Cimmerian                $ 32 Publique Arte
 $ 30 Conan the Cimmerian (OEM)          $ 24 Publish It 2.0 (GEM/DOS)
 $ 52 Conquest of the Longbow            $ 65 Publish It     (Windows)
 $ 30 Consumer Information Disc          $ 30 Publishers Paradise
 $ 15 Cookbook Heaven                    $ 39 Putt-Putt's Fun Pack
 $ 40 Corel Art Show III                 $ 63 Putt-Putt Joins the Parade
 $189 Corel Draw 3.0                     $ 43 Q & A
 $449 Corel Draw 4.0                     $ 20 QRZ Ham Radio
 $ 49 Creation Stories                   $ 36 Quicktoon Cartoon Classics (QT)
 $ 49 Creepy Crawlies                    $ 26 Quicktoon Cartoon Classisc (OEM)
 $ 30 Crossword Cracker                  $ 44 Race the Clock
 $ 33 Curse of Enchantia                 $ 30 RBBS In A Box #3.1
 $ 49 Cute and Cuddlies                  $ 30 Reader's Library
 $ 15 Cybergenic Ranger                  $ 36 Reel Clips
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 $ 25 Danger, Hot Stuff II               $ 18 Resource Library Graphics
 $ 60 Dare Bluff or Die!                 $ 23 Resource Library Language Ops.
 $ 24 Data Base Made Easy                $ 26 Resource Library Multimedia
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 $ 12 Deathstar Arcade Battles           $ 46 Return to the Moon
 $ 35 Deep Voyage                        $ 60 Ringworld: Revemge of Patriarch
 $ 42 Desert Storm Coalition Command     $ 36 Rodney's Funscreen
 $ 15 Desktop Bookshop                   $ 30 Roger Ebert Movie Companion
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6791
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 * SLMR 2.1a * Maytag is my middle name - I'm an Agitator.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6792
  To: MATTHEW SMITH                            Date: 10/26/93  5:04p
Subj: CD CONTENT                              Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

>Could somebody tell me how 'filled up' the following cd-roms are (mbs) :

>GIF's Galore

Appx. 600 "real" Megs, 6800+ files, per DIR /S listing I just did on it.

>Sound Effects Library

Around 250 Megs, over 330 different effects in each format used.

>Also, which of the above 'bbs-ready' with files.bbs's?

Don't think any of them are, but I have read of file listings for GIFs Galore
out in the net somewhere.


 * SLMR 2.1a * The bad thing about Political Jokes: if they get elected

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6793
  To: JOSEPH KAYE                              Date: 10/26/93  5:10p
Subj: AUDIO CD DATABASE                       Refer: NONE
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>  I need to know if there is an Audio Music Database that is similar to
>PhonoLog Reports

Not to my knowlage - I'd LOVE to find a "PhonoLog Reports" COMPILATION in any
format, disc preferred.

Closest I have seen to date is the "Grammy Awards" disc, but that is a LOT more
limited in listings than what we're looking for....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Clinton didn't WIN in 92 - he just LOST by the least....

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From: SEAN CREIGH                            Number: 6794
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/28/93 10:38a
Subj: EHP Vol. 1                              Refer: NONE
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What's the big deal with Ecstasy Hot Pics Vol. 1? I have it and have seen all
these messages about it and wondered what all the interest in it was? Thanks
for any info.
                                Sean

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From: JOEL MILLECAN                          Number: 6795
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/29/93  2:05p
Subj: VIRUS! in NightOwl-10 CD                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
 * Forwarded from 1:3645/60, Dragon's Den in Valdosta Ga
 * Originally to All in the WARNINGS echo.
 
 
A Virus has been found in the file (((SF2_UP.ZIP)))...
On Night Owl's v10 CD. The file contains the "Memory Lapse" Virus.
 
The Virus is detectable with McAfee Scan v108.
 
The File is an Update to Street Fighter Game...
 
Delete it from your Filebases!;-)

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From: HOWARD ONEIL                           Number: 6796
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 10/29/93  4:02a
Subj: Nec CDR-36 external cd rom for sale     Refer: NONE
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Terry :

Do these drive recognize the Photo CD disks.  If so, leave a message and
address where to send the $$.  I'd like one and will hopefully be able to get
it through the echo, as I can't make out of state calls.

Thanks!

Howard O'


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From: BLAKE BARR                             Number: 6797
  To: JASON TAYNOR                             Date: 10/29/93  7:29a
Subj: Re: Wanter CD-ROM Titles                Refer: NONE
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JT±>Blake, I do have a copy of 7th Guest that I can let you have
JT±>for $25 + $3 shipping.  It's in decent shape, and isn't the
JT±>OEM version.  It has the video, etc.....

Ok.. Please call me at (817) 698-2777 voice anytime at night (M-F) and in the
day on Saturday or Sunday. I am VERY interested.

                                    Blake

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6798
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/29/93  7:17a
Subj: NOVEMBER CATALOG 1ST-PART               Refer: NONE
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1001 UTILITIES...........................10.00     8.00
ABOUT COWS...............................30.00    25.00    ADVENTURES IN
HEAVEN.....................15.00    12.00
ADVENTURES OF WILLY BEAMISH..............20.00    18.00
AIRCRAFT ENCYCLOPEDIA,THE................30.00    26.00
AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONE BOOK.............25.00    21.00    ANECDOTES
VOL.1..........................15.00     9.00
ANECDOTES VOL.2..........................15.00     9.00 
ANECDOTES VOL.3..........................15.00     9.00
ANIMALS..................................25.00    19.00
ARTHUR'S TEACHER TROUBLE.................30.00    26.00
AUDUBON'S BIRDS..........................25.00    16.00
AUDUBON'S MAMMALS........................25.00    16.00
BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SCHOOL...............20.00    17.00
BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SPACE................20.00    17.00
BATTLE CHESS.............................20.00    17.00
BEAUTY AND THE BEAST.....................20.00    16.00
BIBLE LIBRARY............................30.00    28.00
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BUSINESS MASTER..........................20.00    16.00
C USERS GROUP LIBRARY....................30.00    25.00
CALIFORNIA COLLECTION....................10.00     9.00
CAMERON'S FINE ART CATALOG...............40.00    35.00
CAREER OPPORTUNIES.......................30.00    26.00
CHESSMASTER M/M..........................20.00    18.00
CIA WORLD FACT BOOK......................25.00    23.00
CIA WORLD FACT BOOK M/M..................30.00    26.00
CICA WINDOWS DISK........................20.00    12.00
CLIPART GOLIATH..........................15.00    11.00
CLIPART HEAVEN...........................15.00    12.00
COATES ART REVIEW : IMPRESSIONISM........30.00    26.00
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COMPOSER QUEST...........................35.00    30.00 
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DANGER HOT STUFF.........................15.00    14.00
DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLES.................15.00    11.00
DESKTOP BOOKSHOP.........................15.00    11.00
DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES.................15.00    11.00
DINOSAUR ADVENTURE.......................30.00    26.00
EDUCATION MASTER.........................20.00    16.00
ELECTRONIC COOKBOOK......................35.00    30.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA MPC VER.1...................50.00    40.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA MULTI-MEDIA VER.5...........50.00    40.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUND....................15.00    11.00
EUROPEAN MONARCHS........................30.00    26.00
FAMILY DOCTOR............................25.00    19.00
FONT MASTER TWO..........................20.00    17.00
FONT MASTER..............................10.00     9.00
FONTS FOR THE PROFESSIONAL...............25.00    22.00
FRESH ARTE...............................30.00    26.00
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GAME ARENA...............................10.00     8.00
GAME MASTER..............................20.00    16.00
GAME PACK II.............................30.00    26.00
GARBO MSDOS/MAC..........................20.00    12.00
GIFS GALORE..............................20.00    12.00
GREAT CITIES VOLUME 1....................30.00    26.00
GREAT CITIES VOLUME 2....................30.00    26.00
HAM RADIO................................15.00    11.00
HAMCALL..................................40.00    38.00
HOLY BIBLE,THE...........................20.00    16.00
HOSPITALITY INDEX........................30.00    25.00
INTERACTIVE STORY TIME 1.................20.00    18.00
INTERACTIVE STORY TIME 2.................20.00    18.00
INTERNATIONAL BUSIN. & ECON. ATLAS.......20.00    14.00
J SCHUMACHER'S NEW PRAGUE COOKBOOK.......30.00    26.00
JETS & PROPS.............................30.00    23.00
JOKES & PRANKS...........................10.00     8.00
JONES IN THE FAST LANE...................20.00    18.00
KGB WORLD FACT BOOK......................30.00    25.00
KINGS QUEST V............................20.00    18.00
KLOTSKI..................................25.00    21.00 
KODAK PHOTO CD ACCESS SOFTWARE...........20.00    14.00
LANGUAGES OF THE WORLD...................40.00    35.00
LEARNING ADVENTURE.......................10.00     8.00
LEARNING HEAVEN..........................15.00    12.00
LIBRIS BRITANIA..........................40.00    32.00
LOOM.....................................20.00    17.00
MACMILLAN DICTIONARY FOR CHILDREN........30.00    22.00
MAGAZINE RACK............................30.00    26.00
MAVIS BACON TEACHES TYPING M/M...........25.00    19.00
MAYO CLINIC..............................25.00    21.00
MIDDLE EAST DIARY........................30.00    26.00
MIDI MUSIC SHOP..........................25.00    21.00
MIXED-UP MOTHER GOOSE....................20.00    18.00
MONKEY ISLAND............................30.00    26.00
MOTHER OF ALL CLIPART....................15.00    11.00
MPC WIZARD...............................20.00    14.00
MS DOS ARCHIVES (SIMTEL 20)..............20.00    12.00
NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC MAMMALS..............30.00    21.00
NATIONAL PARKS...........................25.00    20.00
NORTH AMERICAN FACIMILE (FAX) BOOK.......30.00    26.00
NORTH AMERICAN INDIANS...................30.00    26.00
OFFICER'S BOOKCASE.......................30.00    26.00
ORIGINAL SHAREWARE.......................10.00     7.00
OS/2 ARCHIVES............................20.00    12.00
OUR SOLAR SYSTEM.........................15.00    11.00
PC-SIG VERSION 11........................20.00    16.00
PC-SIG VERSION 12........................25.00    21.00
PC-SIG WORLD OF GAMES....................15.00    12.00
PC-SIG HOME & BUSINESS COLLECTION........10.00     9.00
PC-SIG WORLD OF WINDOWS..................15.00    12.00
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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 6799
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/29/93  7:18a
Subj: NOVEMBER CATALOG LAST-PART              Refer: NONE
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PETER AND THE WOLF.......................20.00    16.00
PHARMACIST GUIDE TO DRUGS................30.00    26.00
PIXEL GARDEN.............................30.00    26.00
PLANT DOCTOR.............................30.00    26.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--FRENCH...........35.00    25.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--GERMAN...........35.00    25.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--ENGLISH..........35.00    25.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--JAPANESE.........35.00    25.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--SPANISH..........35.00    25.00
PROGRAMMER'S ROM.........................30.00    26.00
PROJECT GUTENBURG........................20.00    18.00
PUBLIQUE ARTE............................30.00    26.00
PUBLISH-IT...............................25.00    19.00
Q & A....................................50.00    45.00
QRZ HAM RADIO............................20.00    12.00
RBBS IN A BOX VERSION 3.1................30.00    26.00
REFERENCE LIBRARY........................20.00    18.00
ROGER EBERT MOVIE COMPANION..............30.00    26.00
SCOUNTING REPORT 92......................30.00    26.00
SEALS OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.............30.00    26.00
SECRET WEAPONS OF THE LUFTWAFFE..........30.00    26.00
SELECTWARE...............................10.00     8.00
SHAKESPEARE..............................20.00    16.00
SHAREWARE GOLD II VOL.2 #1...............30.00    26.00
SHAREWARE HEAVEN.........................15.00    12.00
SHAREWARE ONLINE.........................25.00    21.00
SHAREWARE ONLINE VOL.#2..................25.00    21.00
SHERLOCK CONSULTING DETECTIVE............20.00    17.00
SHERLOCK HOLMES..........................20.00    16.00
SO MUCH SCREENWARE.......................30.00    26.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 2......................15.00    12.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3......................25.00    18.00
SOFTWARE VAULT VOL.2.....................15.00    12.00
SOUND SENSATIONS.........................15.00    11.00
SOURCE CD-ROM............................20.00    18.00
SPACE ADVENTURE..........................30.00    26.00
SPACE QUEST IV...........................20.00    18.00
SPACE SERIES-APOLLO......................30.00    26.00
STELLER 7................................20.00    18.00
STRAIGHT FROM HEAVEN.....................15.00    12.00
STREET ATLAS USA.........................95.00    90.00
TAO OF COW...............................30.00    26.00
TECHNOTOOLS..............................15.00    11.00
TEMPRA PHOTO CD ACCESS SOFTWARE..........20.00    14.00
TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES.................30.00    26.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-SCIENCE............25.00    21.00
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TOO MANY TYPEFONTS.......................12.00    11.00
U.S. ATLAS M/M...........................20.00    16.00
U.S. ATLAS WITH AUTOMAP..................25.00    21.00
U.S. CIVICS..............................30.00    26.00
        
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U.S. HISTORY.............................35.00    30.00
U.S. PRESIDENTS..........................30.00    26.00
U.S./WORLD ATLAS.........................22.00    19.00
U.S.A. STATE FACTBOOK,THE................30.00    26.00
U.S.A. WARS:CIVIL WAR....................30.00    26.00
U.S.A. WARS:DESERT STORM.................30.00    26.00
U.S.A. WARS:KOREA........................30.00    26.00
U.S.A. WARS:VIETNAM......................30.00    26.00
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VGA SPECTRUM.............................10.00     7.00 
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VISIONS OF SATURN........................30.00    16.00
WHERE IS CARMEN SAN DIEGO................30.00    25.00
WILD PLACES..............................20.00    14.00
WINDOWARE................................15.00    11.00
WINDOWS MASTER...........................20.00    16.00
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WORLD OF FLIGHT..........................35.00    30.00
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20TH CENTURY VIDEO ALMANAC...............25.00    18.00
BEST OF MICROPROSE.......................25.00    19.00
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DINOSAURS................................30.00    22.00
FRACTOOLS................................30.00    26.00
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GARDENING................................15.00    11.00
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PIER 3...................................30.00    22.00
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SLEEPING BEAUTY..........................20.00    16.00
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  SHIPPING $ 5.00   FLAT FEE  UNDER 10 CD'S________$5.00____
  SHIPPING $ 8.00   FLAT FEE  OVER  9  CD'S________$8.00____


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I ONLY ACCEPT CHECKS OR MONEY ORDERS AT THIS TIME.
ALL CHECKS WILL BE HELD UNTIL THEY CLEAR BANK.


SEND ORDERS TO:    STEVE GREENO
                   2508 AVENIDA REGULO
                   TUCSON AZ. 85710

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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 6801
  To: GARY SHADE                               Date: 10/28/93  9:37p
Subj: BUSTY BABES 1                           Refer: NONE
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GARY,
I'D LIKE TO GET ONE IF THE BUSTY BABES CD'S.  I COULD TRADE BASEBALL,
HOCKEY, FOOTBALL, OR BASKETBALL CARDS PLUS SOME CASH. (MY BASKETBALLL
AND FOOTBALL CARDS ARE LIMITED.)  PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE TO OFFER.  I
WOULD EVEN BE INTERESTED IN OTHER ADULT CD'S.
THANKS.
GREG
PS-I DON'T HAVE ANY CUBBIES THAT OLD BUT HOW ABOUT SOMETHING A LITTLE NEWER?

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From: JESSE SCHMELZER                        Number: 6802
  To: JOHN ANTHONY                             Date: 10/27/93  3:42p
Subj: Re: Pioneer Cdrom                       Refer: NONE
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In a message on <20-Oct-93 07:28:01> John Anthony (1:3406/14) wrote:

 JA> I have a Pioneer Cdrom DRM-600A for sale, without cables 800.00 bucks

 JA> Call bbs at 1-503-364-9998


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I'll give ya 400.00 for it. can get em new for 689.00

 Jesse

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 6803
  To: RONALD GOODWIN                           Date: 10/29/93 10:36a
Subj: Re: Swimwear or Lingerie                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to ALL <10-27-93 19:23> Ronald Goodwin wrote:

RG>> If anyone has any suggestions on new Swimwear or Lingerie CD's please

Busty Babes Vol II, licensed collections for the sysops--Ask a dealer in this
echo.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 6804
  To: TERRY MCDILL                             Date: 10/29/93  6:01p
Subj: Adult CD-ROMs For Trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   -|-  Quoting Terry Mcdill to All  -|-

TM> I have the following CD-Roms for trade:
TM>  Nightwatch Interactive
TM>  Digital Dreams
TM>  All reasonable offers considered!

Terry I would be willing to trade you an ORIGINAL Ecstasy Hot Pics ver. 1
for the Nightwatch Interactive.

Call me at 407-886-2853 if interested

                Blaine Richard  
 
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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 6805
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/29/93  8:46a
Subj: PCJ Order                               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hi Mike,

 > He was very cordial

          You silver-tongued devil, you <grin>.  You realise, of course, that
this sort of treatment, combined with the prompt and polite telephone service
you gave, is likely to get you CUSTOMERS?  Well, that and an on-line mailer :-)
anyway.


                                                   Cheers,













 > on the telephone, and conveyed that he had no objection to the $19
 > shipping
 > charge, and was in no particular hurry.  All he wanted was for his order
 > to be shipped within a reasonable time frame, and to be aware of the
 > exact shipping charges beforehand.  I was happy to accomodate him on
 > both
 > counts.

 > DC>the other 2 services take longer to get there.  The price information I
 > quote
 > DC>here for shipping is on pages 340-342 of the Issue 11, December 24, 1992
 > of t
 > DC>United States Postal Service International Mail Manual.

 > Mine is dated April 1993.  Maybe you should pick up the new one?  There
 > were some changes made, especially regarding international shipping
 > costs.

 > Later,
 > .\\ike

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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 6806
  To: BARRY CODRON                             Date: 10/28/93 10:36a
Subj: caddies                                 Refer: NONE
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BC> Robert, I can get you a bunch of used (but perfectly good)
BC> caddies for about $5 apiece shipped as long as you will
BC> prepay.
 
Ok, thanks, but I already bought some.  I will put your name in my file for
future purchases.  Can you get Hitachi CDR3500 used drives? For how much?
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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 6807
  To: ALVIS COLLIER                            Date: 10/28/93 11:29p
Subj: CD ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AC>   I have a CD-ROM drive for sale for $125 plus
AC> shipping. It 
AC> comes with one software title (not reference type) Toolworks
AC> gamespack I 
AC> think. The drive is not a screamer but it's OK for your
AC> application. 
 
Do you have model numbers for the drive and the controller?  I am very
interested in buying it.
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From: SHAUN WATSON                           Number: 6808
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 10/28/93  4:49p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mark, please send me one of your catalogues:
Shaun Watson
12925 Dubin Drive
Spotsylvania, VA 22553

Thanx.
Shaun (703-972-0456)

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 6809
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 10/29/93  5:33a
Subj: A PUBLIC APPEAL                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >           In FidoNet, the power of a moderator is basically
 > unlimited.  I'm not sure of the reason for this, but would guess

I understand all this, but disagree 100% with it. Yes they should control it,
but total control, total corrupts. Anyway...since this is off topic, we better
drop it before we get the boot here. :D

Chris

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 6810
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/29/93  7:20a
Subj: Magazines 1 of 3                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for a great price on magazine subscriptions? We have over 900 titles
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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 6811
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/29/93  7:20a
Subj: Magazines 1 of 3                        Refer: NONE
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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 6812
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/29/93  7:21a
Subj: Magazines 2 of 3                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for a great price on magazine subscriptions? We have over 900 titles
to choose from, at or below normal subscription prices. To order, send a check
or money order, indicating which titles you want, to:

                                    C.S.S.
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                              Adrian, MI 49221

              Please allow 6 - 8 weeks before subscription begins.

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DEBATE ISSUES                    8.52   SCIENCE                        202.95
DECORATING DGST HOME/CRAFT PRJ  13.13   SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN             33.30
DECORATIVE ARTISTS WORKBOOK     12.54   SCREEN PRINTING                 36.08
DECORATIVE ARTS PAINTING        17.95   SCUBA DIVING (RODALE'S)          9.73
DECORATIVE WOODCRAFTS           16.23   SCUBA TIMES                      9.00
DEEP SKY                        11.55   SEA CLASSICS                    29.29
DEER & DEER HUNTING             16.24   SEARCH                          10.85
DELAWARE TODAY                  10.13   SEATTLE MAGAZINE                 6.22
DELL CHAMPION CROSSWORD PUZZLES  6.48   SELECT HOMES AND FOOD           13.14
DELL CHAMPION VARIETY PUZZLES    6.48   SENIOR HIGHLIGHTS               11.70
DELL CROSSWORD PUZZLES          10.38   SESAME STREET                   16.67
DELL CROSSWORDS & VARIETY PUZZL  5.18   SEVENTEEN                       10.20
DELL CROSSWORDS SPECIAL          6.48   SEW NEWS                        15.42
DELL HOROSCOPE                  12.98   SHAPE                           17.50
DELL LOGIC PUZZLES               8.43   SHOOTING INDUSTRY               20.63
DELL OFF PENCIL PUZZLES WORD GA  4.88   SHOOTING TIMES                  14.64
DELL OFFICIAL CROSSWORD PUZZLES  9.73   SHORT STORY INTERNATIONAL       17.52
DELL OFFICIAL WORD SEARCH PUZZL  4.53   SHOW BIZ NEWS & MODEL NEWS      14.40
DELL PENCIL PUZZLES & WORD GAME 10.38   SHOWBOATS                       13.20
DELL POCKET CROSSWORD PUZZLES    8.43   SIGNS OF THE TIMES              44.20
DELL WORD SEARCH PUZZLES         8.30   SIMPLY CROSS STITCH              9.71
DESSERTS MAGAZINE                6.42   SIMPSONS ILLUSTRATED             8.25
DETECTIVE COMICS                13.13   SKATEBOARDING                   13.66
DETROIT MONTHLY                 10.13   SKI                              6.56
DIABETES FORECAST               27.75   SKIING                           5.97
DIRECT RESPONSE SPECIALIST      49.60   SKIN DIVER                      12.61
DIRT BIKE                       16.61   SMALL BUSINESS REPORTS          90.65
DIRT RIDER                      11.96   SMART DADS                      13.65
DIRT WHEELS                     16.61   SMITHSONIAN                     20.35
DISCOVER                        18.72   SNOW COUNTRY                     8.03
DISNEY ADVENTURES               12.12   SNOW GOER                        7.68
DOG FANCY                       14.28   SNOWBOARDER                      9.26
DOG WORLD                       18.48   SNOWBOARDING                    10.24
DOLL CASTLE NEWS                10.59   SOAP OPERA DIGEST               31.85
DOLL COLLECTORS PRICE GUIDE      7.97   SOAP OPERA MAGAZINE             13.90
DOLL DESIGNS                     9.42   SOAP OPERA STARS                 7.25
DOLL LIFE                       10.38   SOCCER DIGEST                   13.48
DOLL MAKING                      8.10   SOUNDING (EAST COAST BOATING)   18.02
DOLL WORLD                      11.19   SOUTH FLA MAGAZINE              15.59
DOWNBEAT                        14.95   SOUTHERN ACCENTS                16.84
DR DOBBS JOURNAL                19.03   SOUTHERN BOATING                 9.15
DR STRANGE                      12.15   SOUTHERN HORSEMAN               11.63
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  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/29/93  7:21a
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EARTH                           19.19   SOUTHERN WHEELS                  9.06
EARTH JOURNAL                   12.92   SPARK                           17.95
EASTERN BASKETBALL MAGAZINE     23.63   SPECIALTY CAR                    9.57
EASY FAST 'N' FUN CROSSWORDS     4.53   SPECIALTY CAR MARKET PLACE       7.12
EASYRIDERS                      31.45   SPECTACULAR SPIDERMAN           10.58
EATING WELL                     11.25   SPIDER                          23.09
EBONY                           10.00   SPIN                             9.45
EBONY MAN (EM)                  10.00   SPORT                           10.97
ECONOMIST                       74.25   SPORT DIVER                      8.61
EL FINANCIERO                  108.50   SPORT FISHING                   10.91
ELECTRONIC GAMES                14.97   SPORT TRUCK                     11.96
ELECTRONIC GAMING MONTHLY       17.47   SPORTING NEWS..                 48.85
ELECTRONIC LEARNING             11.97   SPORTS AFIELD                    8.38
ELECTRONIC SERVICING TECHNOLOGY 14.85   SPORTS CARD PRICE GUIDE         17.24
ELECTRONICS NOW                 12.48   SPORTS CARD TRADERS             19.47
ELLE                            14.95   SPORTS CARDS                    17.15
ELLE DECOR                      10.35   SPORTS COLLECTORS DIGEST        45.45
ELLERY QUEEN                    22.73   SPORTS ILLUSTRATED              45.04
EMERGE                           9.75   SPY                              8.48
ENTREPRENEUR                    11.48   ST LOUIS JOURNALISM REVIEW      23.13
EQUINOX                         15.48   STAR                            14.51
EQUUS                           15.00   STAR TREK                       17.33

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 6814
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/29/93  7:21a
Subj: Magazines 3 of 3                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for a great price on magazine subscriptions? We have over 900 titles
to choose from, at or below normal subscription prices. To order, send a check
or money order, indicating which titles you want, to:

                                    C.S.S.
                             1526 Ramblewood Ct.
                              Adrian, MI 49221

              Please allow 6 - 8 weeks before subscription begins.

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ESSENCE                         10.80   STAR TREK THE NEXT GENERATION   17.33
EUROPE                          13.83   STARLOG                         23.27
EUROPEAN CAR                    10.33   STEREO REVIEW                    8.80
EXECUTIVE FEMALE                26.83   STITCH & SEW QUILTS              8.30
FABULOUS MUSTANGS & EXOTIC CARS  7.27   STOCK CAR RACING                10.42
FACES                           20.85   STORY                           16.63
FAITH & STUFF                   12.36   STREET ROD ACTION               21.86
FAMILY CIRCLE                   14.78   SUCCESS                         11.48
FAMILY HANDYMAN                 13.88   SUCCESSFUL RETIREMENT           13.13
FAMILY LIFE                      6.93   SUNBONNET CRAFTS                 7.97
FAMILY SAFETY & HEALTH          14.73   SUNSET                          14.18
FANGORIA                        16.52   SUPER CHEVY                     12.04
FANTASTIC FOUR                  10.05   SUPER COMPUTING REVIEW          39.15
FANTASY & SCIENCE FICTION       12.97   SUPER FORD                      12.78
FANTASY BASEBALL                 9.00   SUPER NES BUYERS GUIDE          12.76
FARM & RANCH LIVING             16.13   SUPER STOCK & DRAG RACING        9.87
FARMERS DIGEST                  15.23   SUPERCYCLE                      15.53
FASHION KNITTING                14.81   SUPERMAN                        15.30
FATE                            10.80   SUPERMAN - THE MAN OF STEEL     15.30
FEDERAL TIMES                   31.80   SUPERVISORY MANAGEMENT          34.58
FELL'S US COINS INVESTMENT GUID 10.51   SUPERVISORY SENSE               22.80
FEMALE BODY BUILDING             8.09   SURFER                          18.85
FIELD & STREAM                   8.61   SURFING                         11.47
FINANCIAL WORLD                 20.70   SURPRISES                        8.41
FINE GARDENING                  22.20   TCI                             18.75
FINE HOMEBUILDING               26.83   TEACHING PRE K-8                12.43
FINE SCALE MODELER              19.20   TEAM TITANS                     17.33
FINE WOODWORKING                23.13   TECHNOLOGY & LEARNING           14.64
FIREHOUSE MAGAZINE              15.00   TECHNOLOGY REVIEW               28.50
FISHING & HUNTING NEWS          20.96   TEEN                             9.97
FISHING WORLD                    7.90   TEEN BEAT                       15.48
FLARE                            9.68   TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES     5.15
FLASH                           13.13   TENNIS                          11.17
FLEX                            26.22   TEXAS FISH & GAME                8.09
FLORIDA SPORTSMAN               10.59   TEXAS MONTHLY                   11.07
FLORIDA VACATION RENTALS MAGAZI 10.40   TEXAS MONTHLY.                  13.65
FLOWER & GARDEN                  8.42   THE FRANCHISE HANDBOOK          16.65
FLY ROD AND REEL                10.48   THE HOCKEY NEWS                 43.71
FLYING                          13.80   THEOLOGY TODAY                  13.13
FLYING MODELS                   17.58   THOR                            10.13
FOOD & WINE                     11.25   THRASHER MAGAZINE               14.34
FOOTBALL DIGEST                 13.48   THREADS                         22.20
FOOTBALL NEWS                   22.72   TODAY'S BETTER LIFE             14.81
FORBES                          37.80   TODAY'S COLLECTOR               16.24
FORTUNE                         31.77   TODAYS CATHOLIC TEACHER          9.34
FOUR WHEEL & OFF ROAD           10.97   TODAYS CHRISTIAN WOMAN           8.82
FOUR WHEELER                     9.83   TOLE WORLD                      11.65
FREEBIES                         6.80   TOTAL HEALTH                     7.50
FRONT PAGE DETECTIVE             9.30   TOY SHOP                        21.67
FUR FISH & GAME                 11.56   TRACK & FIELD NEWS              17.36
FUTURIFIC                       37.50   TRADITIONAL HOME                11.15
GAME PLAYERS NINTENDO/SEGA      10.77   TRADITIONAL QUILTER             13.13
GAME PLAYERS PC ENTERTAINMENT    8.97   TRAILER BOATS                   10.96
GAMEPRO                         21.33   TRAILER LIFE                    14.85
GAMES                           11.68   TRAINER'S WORKSHOP             209.00
GARBAGE (ENVIRONMENTAL)         14.18   TRAINING MAGAZINE               57.60
GEOMUNDO                        24.30   TRAINS                          28.82
GI JOE                          10.43   TRANSFORMERS                    10.35
GIFTED CHILD TODAY              20.63   TRAPPER & PREDATOR CALLER       15.42
GOD'S WORD TODAY                 9.34   TRAVEL & LEISURE                15.00
GOLDMINE                        31.85   TRAVEL 50 & BEYOND               6.22
GOLF                            11.96   TRAVEL HOLIDAY                   9.71
GOLF DIGEST                     18.16   TRAVELAMERICA                   11.03
GOLF FOR WOMEN                   9.34   TREASURE FOUND MAGAZINE         10.78
GOLF ILLUSTRATED                13.53   TREASURE MAGAZINE               24.43
GOLF TIPS                        8.08   TROPICAL FISH HOBBYIST MAGAZINE 21.88
GOLF WORLD                      25.96   TRUCK/RACES/RECREATIONAL MARKET  7.12
GOOD HOUSEKEEPING               14.10   TRUCK/VAN/4X4 PRICES            18.32
GOOD OLD DAYS                    9.21   TRUE DETECTIVE                   8.10
GOOD OLD DAYS SPECIAL            6.62   TRUE STORY                       9.72
GREEN LANTERN                   13.13   TRY IT YOURSELF HAIR             8.25
GREEN LANTERN MOSAIC            13.13   TU INTERNATIONAL                20.25
GRIT                            12.66   TURKEY & TURKEY HUNTING         10.81
GUIDEPOSTS                       7.73   TURTLE                           9.71
GUITAR PLAYER                   18.72   TV GUIDE - CANADA               30.98
GUN LIST                        22.58   TV Y NOVELAS                    10.50
GUN SHOW CALENDAR               11.72   TWINS                           15.30
GUN WORLD                       17.75   U.S. BOAT & SHIP MODELER        23.38
GUNS                            16.46   UNCANNY X-MEN                    8.10
GUNS & AMMO                     12.61   UNDERWATER USA                   8.60
HACK'D MAGAZINE                 16.28   UNIQUE HOMES                    17.25
HANDGUNNING                     16.47   UNIX WORLD                      17.10
HANDGUNS                        14.36   US AVIATOR                      15.00
HARPERS BAZAAR EN ESPANOL       17.01   US CATHOLIC                      9.75
HARPERS MAGAZINE                15.92   US KIDS                         16.11
HARROWSMITH - CANADA            15.48   US MAGAZINE                     12.57
HARVARD BUSINESS REVIEW         67.50   US NEWS & WORLD REPORT          32.79
HAWAII MAGAZINE                  5.84   USED CAR PRICES                 18.32
HEALTH MAGAZINE                 13.04   VACATION                         6.22
HECKLER, THE                    13.13   VALLEY MAGAZINE                  8.74
HERO ILLUSTRATED                12.76   VANIDADES                       15.56
HIGH PERFORMANCE MOPAR          13.20   VARIETY MAGAZINE               137.83
HIGH PERFORMANCE PONTIAC        13.20   VEGGIE LIFE                     11.48
HIGHLIGHTS FOR CHILDREN         20.10   VERANDA MAGAZINE                 9.30
HISPANIC MAGAZINE               14.70   VETTE                           20.58
HIT PARADER                     16.23   VICTORIAN SAMPLER               18.16
HM HEAVY METAL                   8.66   VIDEO                            4.26
HOCKEY DIGEST                   13.48   VIDEO GAMES & COMPUTER ENTERTA  12.42
HOMBRE INTERNACIONAL            20.25   VIDEOMAKER                      19.37
HOME                            12.50   VIRTUE                           9.33
HOME COOKING                     8.62   VOLLEYBALL                       9.33
HOME MECHANIX                    7.66   W MAGAZINE                      17.94
HOME OFFICE COMPUTING            7.48   WALKING                          9.00
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HORSE & HORSEMAN                12.78   WALLEYE                          7.31
HORSE ILLUSTRATED               14.28   WASHINGTONIAN, THE              15.36
HORSEPLAY                       10.33   WATERSKI                        10.91
HORTICULTURE                    11.79   WEARABLE CRAFTS                  9.19
HOT BOAT                        12.42   WEB OF SPIDERMAN                 7.76
HOT ROD                         10.97   WEEKEND WOODWORKING PROJECTS    18.88
HOUSE PLANT                     16.47   WEEKLY WORLD NEWS               19.34
HOUSTON METROPOLITAN             7.18   WEIGHT WATCHERS                 10.78
HOUSTON PEOPLE                  10.35   WESTERN HORSEMAN                12.15
HOW                             36.90   WESTERN LIVESTOCK JOURNAL       15.80
HR FOCUS                        49.16   WESTERN OUTDOORS                 9.12
HUMPTY DUMPTY                    9.71   WHATS NEW IN HOME ECONOMICS     16.68
HUNTING                         11.46   WHERE TO RETIRE                  6.22
HYPE HAIR                        8.25   WILD BIRD                       16.28
I LOVE CATS                     13.13   WINDOWS MAGAZINE                13.72
IDEAS PARA SU HOGAR             22.95   WINDOWS SOURCES                 16.76
IMPORT CAR PRICES               18.32   WINDSURFING                     10.91
IN BUSINESS                      9.45   WINNING                          5.00
IN FISHERMAN                    10.80   WINNING: BICYCLE RACING ILLUS   14.01
INC                             10.45   WISCONSIN OUTDOOR JOURNAL       13.53
INCOME OPPORTUNITIES             5.98   WOMANS CIRCLE                    6.72
INCOME PLUS                     11.47   WOMANS CIRCLE CROCHET            6.32
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INDIA ABROAD                    26.60   WOMANS HOUSEHOLD CROCHET         6.32
INDIAN TRADER                   16.45   WOMENS SPORTS & FITNESS         13.53
INDIVIDUAL INVESTOR             18.91   WONDER WOMAN                    13.13
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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 6815
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/29/93  7:21a
Subj: Magazines 3 of 3                        Refer: NONE
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INSIDE KUNG FU                  13.50   WOODWORKER PROJECTS & TECHNIQU   7.93
INSIDE MUSIC                     5.83   WORD UP                         15.95
INSIDE SPORTS                   13.48   WORD WIZE                       11.25
INSIGHT                         17.22   WORKBASKET                       8.42
INSTRUCTOR                      12.47   WORKBENCH                        8.42
INT'L BULLETIN OF MISSIONARY    16.20   WORKING MOTHER                   4.36
INTERNATIONAL LIVING            16.47   WORKING WOMAN                    6.88
INTERVIEW  (ANDY WARHOL)        12.00   WORLD & I, THE                  35.40
INTRODUCING HOUSTON PEOPLE MAGA 10.35   WORLD COIN NEWS                 23.22
IRON MAN                        10.65   WORLD PRESS REVIEW              14.98
ISAAC ASIMOVS SCI. FICT.        25.98   WRITERS DIGEST                  13.13
ISLANDS MAGAZINE                 9.98   Y.M.                            11.70
ISRAEL MY GLORY                  6.60   YACHTING                         9.99
JACK & JILL                      9.71   YANKEE                          13.20
JAZZ TIMES                      17.72   YOGA JOURNAL                    12.38
JAZZIZ                          10.05   YOUNG SISTERS & BROTHERS         7.23
JERUSALEM POST                  71.95   YOUR BIG BACKYARD               12.48
JET                             22.50   YOUR MONEY                       9.06
JEWELRY CRAFTS                   4.99   ZILLIONS                        11.92
JEWISH HERALD-VOICE             26.40   ZOO BOOKS                       11.84
JEWISH HOMEMAKER, THE            8.68

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From: BILL HALL                              Number: 6816
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 10/27/93  2:57p
Subj: Mitsumi CD 4Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HK>For Sale: Mitsumi LU005 CD ROM drive. Still in box - hasn't been
HK>used. Includes interface card, software, manuals, cables, etc.
HK>Must sell as "used" since the warranty was on my original drive and
HK>doesn't transfer to this one.
HK>Will sell for $150 (includes postage) or best offer received by
HK>11/5/93. Leave message here, or call me at 913-888-5201 ext.257
HK>(8a-4p Central time, or leave voice mail at my extension if after
HK>hours).
Will this work with a Sound Blaster Pro. If so, I might be
interested in it.

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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 6817
  To: JEFF HUBERT                              Date: 10/30/93 12:19a
Subj: Cd-rom Drive for sale!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >Besides my price for the DOUBLE SPEED drive is very good at $229. Most
  >double speed drives (without interface) go for $450 or more (NEC drives
  >for example) and then you have to buy a $100 SCSI interface to hook them up.
  >The cd-rom drive I am selling comes with the interface card (not SCSI but
  >it is 16-bit). It is also supported by OS/2 by IBM's new driver.
  >And finally I am willing to make some kind of deal on the final price.
  >(rounding off shipping costs or make some kind of comprimise)


Well.......I am willing to take one.......do you do Credit Cards?




James
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From: JIM BLAIR                              Number: 6818
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/29/93  4:29a
Subj: PCJ Order                               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 MS>to United States Postal Service publication 51, "International Postal 
 MS>Rates and Fees", a 16 oz. package can be sent to any country in 
 MS>Europe via Airmail small packet (non-insured) rate for $6.31, not the 

 MS>Well, Mr. Dwight just ordered six CD's from me, and I'm charging him $19
 MS>for shipping, which is the 2-lb. rate w/ insurance.  He was very cordial

aww, I gotta ask: how come you don't split this into two shipments and charge
the $12.62 (2 * $6.31)?  Looks like the 16 oz rate's the best buy. 
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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 6819
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 10/30/93  3:33p
Subj: Wanted CDPlayer                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Call me voice at 517-892-2935 about
-> Have 2 4meg 60 simms, trade for CDPlayer or cd's
-> 512-939-9822
Might be interested!

Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 6820
  To: DOUG MCCLELLAN                           Date: 10/30/93  3:36p
Subj: DRM604X                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Who's selling the DRM604X these days? Please leave you name and numbe

We DO!  Give me a call at 517-892-2935 voice if interested!
Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE
1:239/675


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From: TONY MILES                             Number: 6821
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/31/93  9:21a
Subj: Windows CD-ROM disc                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

****************** FOR TRADE ********************

Windows 3.0 Multimedia CD-ROM disc. An excellent condition. Looking for
games or shareware CD-ROM disc for BBS use.

If interested, leave reply in this conference.

Tony Miles - Clayton County, GA


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From: PHILLIP DAMPIER                        Number: 6822
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 10/29/93  5:44p
Subj: A PUBLIC APPEAL                         Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93  6:41p                       Private: No 

 > If at any time the moderator wishes to remove his/her
 > conference from the backbone, then the moderator shall be allowed to do so
 > unhindered.  However, if a conference moderator allows illegal or
 > obscene activity to take place in the conference, then the ZEC may have the
 > conference removed from the backbone.  This may be avoided if the ZEC
 > gives prior warning to the moderator, and the moderator effectively
 > removes the illegal/obscene activity from the conference within a
 > specified time limit.  If the moderator refuses or is unable to comply,
 > the conference shall be removed from the backbone."

I don't know where you read this, but this policy is completely unenforcable. 
Fidonet presently has NO ratified echomail policy except the Backbone
Operations Procedure.

Policy 4 does deal with the issue of illegal activities, but the "obscene
activity" clause sounds like an invention from our overreaching ZEC, who has
seen fit to singlehandedly attempt to determine using his own subjective,
unwritten criteria, what is and is not "obscene."

Again, until there is an echopol, any policy dealing with echomail that goes
beyond the subject of illegal activity is subjective and not in force except in
the minds of those who claim to enforce the rules.

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From: CHARLES STRUSZ @ 970/201               Number: 6823
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/26/93 11:12p
Subj: Custom low quantity cd ro               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@SUBJECT:CUSTOM LOW QUANTITY CD ROM PRODUCTION                       N
                         -------------
HEY SYSOP!         ----- ONE OF CD'S ! -----       HEY SYSOP!
                         -------------

InfoQuest has powered up our CD-ROM RECORDER! We can cut a custom CD for you
overnight!  580 Meg capacity, standard CD-ROM, CD-XA, CD-I, Photo-CD Supported!
 Your data accepted on CD, Quick-40/80, hard drive, or other negotiated source.
 Absolute confidentiality is guaranteed!  Here's the best part: $85 plus $9 per
tape!  Need to dupe or recut an existing CD? $85 and FREE same day service!
Need 10 to 500 copies? Low as $12.50 each! No job is too small for CD now! 
Move that data off the hard drive and onto inexpensive permanent media!  GREAT
FOR BBS files!  Call 1-800-455-DISK and get your job scheduled today!  Free
consultations available.  Just set up your drive(s) like you want them, tape
back them up, and ship 'em to us!  We'll restore from the tapes and write your
stuff to CD-ROM and return it all back via Priority Mail! Fast and Private!

      60 Minute, 580 Meg CD Recording.....................$  85
      74 Minute, 680 Meg CD Recording.....................$ 105

  InfoQuest,  150 Pleasant Hill Road,  Carbondale, IL  62901-9702
  1-800-455-DISK - (618) 549-3414 - (FAX) 457-7057 (BBS) 453-8511


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From: MANNY CASAO                            Number: 6824
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/28/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: CD PRICE LIST pt 1                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hi Mike!


Do you have any Amiga specific shareware Cd's ?





Manny

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From: MARK TANNER                            Number: 6825
  To: KEVIN KING                               Date: 10/27/93 11:44a
Subj: Re: RESELLERS QUAERTERLY                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Kevin King to Cam Lirondelle <=-

 KK> No problem Cam. I will mail you out a copy of RESALE93.ZIP and
 KK> introduction of what the Reseller's Quarterly is all about. If your
 KK> looking for manufacturers to buy hardware for resale, our database
 KK> which we update weekly can help your business. I'll mail you a copy as
 KK> soon as possible.  Kevin King, SysOp "My Favorite BBS" - a support
 KK> board for those in the computer business. 916-381-2851 Running
 KK> Wildcat, 680MB 14.4 modem. 
 KK> --- TMail v1.31.5
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 KK> (1:203/52)
Hi Kevin .... could you send some information to me also.  We are a reseller of

CDROM equipment in Waterloo, Ontario.

My address is :

Volker-Craig Technologies Ltd.
695 Rupert Street
Waterloo, Ontario
Canada
N2V 1Z5

We are looking for additional sources for our product lines.

Thanks for your time.

Mark Tanner


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From: MARK TANNER                            Number: 6826
  To: GREG GILETTO                             Date: 10/27/93 11:44a
Subj: Re: Catalog                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Mike,

Could you also send me a catalog.  I'm a dealer just north of the border.

Volker-Craig Technologies Ltd.
695 Rupert Street
Waterloo, Ontario
Canada
N2V 1Z5

Attention : Mark Tanner

Thanks for your time

Mark


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From: MARK TANNER                            Number: 6827
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/27/93 11:44a
Subj: CD-ROM Price List                       Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hi Mike,

I saw your messages about a CD-Rom price list.  Could you please send me one.
I'm a computer dealer in Waterloo, Ontario

Volker-Craig Technologies Ltd.
695 Rupert Street
Waterloo, Ontario
Canada
N2V 1Z5

Attention : Mark Tanner

Thanks

Mark

... Sit down, you're rocking the boat!
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From: WM KUNKEL                              Number: 6828
  To: JOEL BENTON                              Date: 10/29/93  6:42p
Subj: First item 4-sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

no I want them, what color is the bucket?


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From: THOM JENNINGS                          Number: 6829
  To: JOEL BELDEN                              Date: 10/29/93 11:28a
Subj: First Item 4-sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

³JB> I got a bucket full of rocks for sale. $5.                             ³
ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ;

Any diamonds among those rocks?  You pay shipping and maybe we can make
a deal.  I'll have my lawyer draw up the agreements.   8*))
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 6830
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/29/93  8:16a
Subj: CD ROMS FOR SALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROMS for Sale

Q&A 4.0 from Symantec ..........................  $39
Magazine Rack ..................................  $15
Romware Vol 2 No 2 Windows .....................  $10
Sherlock Holmes on Disk ........................  $19
CD-ROM Premier .................................  $14
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $19
Toolworks US Atlas and Automap .................  $24
Toolworks World Atlas ..........................  $24
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $69
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $10
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $19

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209

cc: ALL
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From: KAWAI WONG                             Number: 6831
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 10/30/93  2:13a
Subj: Nec CDR-36 external cd ro               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÿ@ORIGIN :MicroSolutions BBS-(615) 868-3163 USR v32b/v42b (1:116/109) N
-> Hello all!
->
-> I have external nec cd rom drives for $99.  They are NEC model 36.  They run
-> on a scsi interface.  Cable and 15 v dc power
-> supply not included.  Call 205-824-2552

   I am very interested in this drive for my BBS.  However, I have several
things I want to ask you before placing the order:

1) Can you give me some specifications for the drive like access time,
   thoughtput??
2) Will it work with a Trantor 130B SCSI controller??
3) How much extra for the cable and the DC power supply??
4) Does it come with any manual or dox??
5) Can you guarantee against DOA??  and does it have any warranty??

Thanx.
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From: KAWAI WONG                             Number: 6832
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 10/30/93  2:23a
Subj: NEC MODEL 36 Readers                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÿ@ORIGIN :MicroSolutions BBS-(615) 868-3163 USR v32b/v42b (1:116/109) N
-> I have a large quanity of NICE NEC Model 36 (used) units for sale. I have
-> priced the units for quick sale because of the number we have available.
-> Here are the specs for these top quality NEC drives:
-> True SCSI units
-> External desktop units
-> 450 msec access time
-> 150 ksec transfer rate
-> IBM, PC or MAC compatiable
->
->    Now only ......................................$125.00ea

   I am interested in getting this drive for my BBS.  However, I have several
things I want to ask:
1) Do you have any manual or dox for it??
2) Are the cables and the power supply included??  If not, how much extra??
3) Can you guarantee against DOA and do you have some sort of warranty for it??

   Thanx.
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From: JIM JOHNSON                            Number: 6833
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/30/93  1:20a
Subj: CD FOR TRADE.....                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Have some Cd`s lying around looking for a trade for other titles or.....
..................1. Sherlock Holmes
..................2. Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego
..................3.Wing Commander ll
..................4 Authorware Star MacroMind Action Mathematica Tempra
..................5 7th Guest

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From: ROBERT ELLIS                           Number: 6834
  To: ADRIAN WILLIAMS                          Date: 10/28/93 11:45p
Subj: Writable CD ROM                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Adrian, lowest price I have seen is 3995.00 I forget who it was though, I
believe I saw it in PC-World mag. 


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From: ROBERT ELLIS                           Number: 6835
  To: RICHARD DRIGGERS                         Date: 10/28/93 11:55p
Subj: Long Time Ago                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Richard, I am sure you do not remember me but we had talked some years back
several time about a controller board for drives to increase cap by about 50%
or so this was back around 84 or 85. At any rate saw your name and wanted to
say hello. By the way I don't believe you were in Florida at that time, thought
you were in NY or NJ maybe. See Ya!



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From: ROBERT ELLIS                           Number: 6836
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/28/93 11:59p
Subj: Tech CD's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a place to get Tech CD's on hardware such as MB's, Drives, all
types of HW if anyone knows of such a CD or place to get them leave a message. 


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From: BRIAN STARK                            Number: 6837
  To: MARK MCCONACHIE                          Date: 10/30/93  5:59a
Subj: mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi. I have a mitsumi cdrom drive. I have used for less than two months, and it
is in mint condition. It is 350ms average access time, 32k buffer, MPC
compliant, and 150k transfer rate. I would be willing to send it to you for
$130, that includes postage. All you pay is $130. You method of payment can be
any, however, if it's a COD, I ask that you pay for the additional charges with
a COD. I'm selling it now, because I need the cash now for college. I have all
original disks and docmentation. The drive works perfectly. You can leave a
message here, or call me at 1-515-296-9872, leave a message on the answering
message if I'm not in. I have made this offer to one other person, so whoover
get's a hold of me first, gets the the cdrom.

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From: BRIAN STARK                            Number: 6838
  To: HOWARD ONEIL                             Date: 10/30/93  6:08a
Subj: Mitsumi CDROM 4 Sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* Original From: Heather Krause (1:290/4)
* Original To  : Howard Oneil (1:290/8)
* Original Subj: Mitsumi CD 4Sale

Howard- Sorry, the drive is already sold. I'll archive your message with
the offer in case the deal goes sour or something, however. Thanks for
the interest.

-hk
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From: ALLEN COX                              Number: 6839
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/29/93 10:11p
Subj: bbs cd's ???                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> For something a little out of the norm, give Shareware Online II a lo
-> A full 650mb of 1993 files, with listings in five different BBS forma
-> In stock at $29 if you're interested.

that one sounds good how much are we talking shipping and tax and all?
plus about how many files are on it?

i grabed one called black box 5 the othe day and it only had about 5400
files on it far less than the 12,000 files on the black box 2 that i had
run.

                allen


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From: CHRIS LINDNER                          Number: 6840
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/29/93 10:00p
Subj: NOT A CD BUT!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HAVE A MONITOR FOR SALE:  LASER 6420 COLOR MONITOR FOR SALE (BACK IN THE BOX).
 EXC CONDITION. WILLING TO TRADE FOR MEM SHIMS  ((SYMS OR HOWEVER THAT MAY BE
SPELLED) OR MAKE ME AN OFFER.
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From: HEATH DOANE                            Number: 6841
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/28/93  6:57p
Subj: TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

I am looking for NiteOwl 10.  Do you have it?
    If so, what is the price?  I am a sysop of a BBS is Southern Ontario (near
Toronto).  Please include shipping and any taxes in your prices...
        Thanks
    Heath Doane
    Sysop, Ground Zero BBS
    (705)435-2451

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From: HEATH DOANE                            Number: 6842
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 10/28/93  7:11p
Subj: ***Night Owl 10 sale***                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can you ship to Canada?
    I run a bbs, so is there any Sysop discounts?
        Thanks,
    Heath Doane

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From: GEOFF FRANGOS @ 910/114                Number: 6843
  To: LANE PETERSON                            Date: 10/27/93  9:29a
Subj: RE: OS2                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>            Does anyone have OS2 2.1 for sale on cd-rom? (or even
>>            on 3.5 floppies if that's all you have, but I would
  The OS/2 CD ROM has two sets of disk images which enable you to make a set o
installation disks for either 3.5" or 5.25" disks. Very handy if your CD ROM i
not directly supported by OS/2! 
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From: DAVID HILL                             Number: 6844
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/29/93 11:32p
Subj: Phone Directory                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for the CD set that contains the white pages for the US.

I think these used to be sold in sets. (east coast,west coast, etc...)

If you have a current set of these, or a partial set, let me know the 
$amount$.



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From: JEFF HUBERT                            Number: 6845
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/30/93 12:07a
Subj: double speed mitsumis                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I just found out that the super sale at microcenter in Virginia is over
and now they are selling the drive for $250! So I please take another look
at my ad...

I can obtain some high-quality mitsumi internal DOUBLE-SPEED cd-rom 
drives for a low price, but I do have limited quantities.
The drive is the brand new mitsumi DOUBLE-SPEED (model FX001D) and it
comes with the manual, software, and 16-bit card.

The drives are BRAND NEW (never opened) and there specs are:
300k transfer rate! (double speed)
280ms access time
Photo-cd compatibe, and MPC compatible too!
New Automatic open/close door! 

The 16-bit card has been revised for easier cable connections
and these drives come with everything needed for installation!
No need to buy a seperate expensive SCSI card to install this drive 
like most other double cd-rom drives! 

ACT FAST, as these drives are priced at a low $230.00
plus shipping and there are LIMITED QUANTITIES!!
CALL (410) 442-2726 NOW!

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From: WAYNE HENDRICKSON                      Number: 6846
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/29/93 10:51a
Subj: H.w.by Mail                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm intersted in hearing about and/or getting the cd-rom
HIGH WEIRDNESS BY MAIL.If you'd like to trade,sell,give away your cd
to me OR if you simply want to tell me how much you like/dislike it,
leave me a message.
Tx.......
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From: G. LARRY WEBB                          Number: 6847
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 10/29/93 12:40p
Subj: WANTED CDPLAYER                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a Mitsumi 350ms access/150kb transfer rate CD ROM reader I'll swap you
for the 8MB of SIMMS....so long as the SIMMS are working and guranteed not DOA.
The Mitsumi has seen limited home use over the past 4 months only...I'm moving
to a SCSI drive, I think. Lemme know here or call me in NC at 919 929 8761.
Thanks.... see ya'.....
 
PS...I'll even throw in a CD or two if you're interested....bye!

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 6848
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/30/93 12:55a
Subj: Paradox Shareware CD-ROM                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the sixth edition of
its Paradox CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The October 1993 CD-ROM has
556 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 125,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 6849
  To: TOM MILLER                               Date: 10/28/93  9:44p
Subj: Off-Topic, On-Target                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TM>JL>Rusty, that is about the silliest message I have read in a while!  You 
  >JL>can put Computer Works in your little black book of businesses NOT to 
  >JL>deal with.  My intention is to protect myself and my family from the 
  >JL>humiliation of going to jail for breaking pornography laws. 
 
TM>  I run 24 cds on my bbs none are adult. No one is sure at this time what 
  >is a legal adult cd and one that is not. I love running my bbs BUT I'm not 
  >going to lose all I work for over a adult cd. Your Numbers is in my book 
  >for future calls on cds I like to deal with people who think like you. 
 
Thanks, Tom.  I appreciate the support.  I personally don't have 
anything against the adult titles, but they are not worth the risk right 
now.  I suspect over the next couple of years, we will have a better 
understanding of what is legal and what isn't.  If you would like a copy 
of our latest catalog, send me your address and I'll get one right out 
to you.  Take care. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Orders, File Lists, Catalogs 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 6850
  To: BARRY CODRON                             Date: 10/28/93 10:00p
Subj: Telephone Directory                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BC>Jim, any discount available on this set?  It's exactly what I am looking 
  >for, but I hoped to find it cheaper (frankly, I DID find it a few 
  >cents cheaper excluding shipping, but thought I try you too). I'm a 
  >local (CA) reseller and might be able to help you push more from this 
  >part of the country, if that helps. 
 
Are you speaking of the ProPhone 7 disc set?  We'll give you a call to 
discuss the details.  I'll also get a catalog out to you.  We do what is 
necessary to get your business.  Talk to you later. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Orders, File Lists, Catalogs 
 
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6851
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 10/30/93 12:22p
Subj: Re: win roms                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    A life form named BORIS beamed aboard the Enterprise and said:

>>>    want all 93 files and not a lot of wall-paper junk....

BO>>Red, there will be a NEW ONE out soon that is way better than most of
BO>>the window cd's out there right now!

>>    What's the name of it Boris? I'm interested.

>>    Ron in Tampa

We'll post the info as soon as it's out, so watch for it soon.....

It shouldn't be much longer, maybe another week.....

Chat with you soon....

Boris Osadciw

... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6852
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 10/30/93 12:22p
Subj: Re: CD's wanted                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Folks, I am looking for the following CD's.  If you have them,
>>    what do you want for them?

>>    Grolier Encyclopedia (windows version)

Price - $50.

>>    Storm #2

Price - $30.

>>    Programmers Megapack

Old Files - Not A Good Disk - Replace with Tech Arsenel - Price - $25.
Much Better !!

>>    Any C/C++ programming CD

If you get the above, you wouldn't need this cd !!

>>    Night Owl 9.0

Price - $18.00

>>    CICA Windows (1993 version)

Price - $20.

>>    Please let me have some prices if you will.  Thanks in advance!

There you have it !! If we can be of any further help, give us a call at
216-225-3263 and we'll do all we can.

Chat with you soon...

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6853
  To: EDWARD DELGROSSO                         Date: 10/30/93 12:22p
Subj: Re: Goverment CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Can anyone give me any information on what kind of stuff is on
>>    the Goverment Consumer Info CD and what kind of interface it
>>    has.  I would also be interested in any other goverment
>>    information discs.....

>>    Thanks in advance.

We have one Ed, it's called "Consumer Information" and it's priced at
$25.

If your interested, please give us a call at 2166-225-3263 anytime and
we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6854
  To: MIKE STEFFEN                             Date: 10/30/93 12:22p
Subj: Re: Wanted: Hot Pix Vol 2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Looking for the adult CD ROM title, Hot Pix Vol 2. Will buy
>>    out-right, or do have CD's to trade.


In stock Mike, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy
to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: JAMES BLISS                            Number: 6855
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/30/93  9:35a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have chinon CDS-431 drive for sale it comes with a scsi host adapter card,
cable,caddy, and installation software.it has an access time of 350ms and
a transffer rate of 150kb/sec. And is an internal mount. $200.00 obo
leave a mesage here and I will get back to you.

                                     THANK YOU
                                     JIM BLISS 

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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 6856
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/30/93  3:45p
Subj: CD Reviews                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (29 Oct 93) Bob Jackson wrote to All...

 BJ> The HDD crash came about the time I posted the review of Busty Babes 
 BJ> Volume II. Would someone please tell me if they've seen that review so
 BJ>  I'll know if it got out OK? Thanks. 

  Well Bob the review may have left your end but DID NOT travel on down
  the wire.  At least it never made it to New Orleans, such a disappointment
  you can't believe!  I ordered my copy the 1st day Mike Shannon posted his
  preorder announcement of BB-II and am still waiting for this to arrive.

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From: DON HOOKER                             Number: 6857
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 10/30/93 11:05a
Subj: Re: CD Encyclopedia for s               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Michael, I saw your add on the Compton's Encyclopedia and I am
interested in the 1993 version. I need to ask, is it a "not for sale"
demo? If so, I already have one. If not, give me a good price and I'll
buy. Please leave reply here... thanks..
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From: GARY POPKIN                            Number: 6858
  To: KATHY MURPHY                             Date: 10/28/93  7:24p
Subj: Re: FREE CATALOG                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send a complete list to Gary Popkin
                              1310 Silverado
                             North Lauderdale
                             FL 33068


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From: GARY POPKIN                            Number: 6859
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/28/93  7:33p
Subj: XXX cd rom disk                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone with a good XXX cd rom they are tired of please drop me a note if
you'd like to trade for XXX "My Private Collection Volume #1"
It has all types of adult material and over 3900! Gif files as well as a
couple hundred DL & GL files plus the utilities to run them. Over 675
megs!

Leave me the name, version, brief description & preferably a phone #.

Thanks,
Gary Popkin


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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 6860
  To: CHARLIE PARKER                           Date: 10/30/93  7:53p
Subj: Hot Pix                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <29 Oct 93  18:16:01>, Charlie Parker (1:130/84) writes:

 >   Hey that is a good cd, have you looked at one called southern 
 >beauties.they are in 1024x768 256 colors. They are the best that I have  
>seen.
Just got it, it is good, some of the .gif's appear to be grainy but when I 
bring up the .tif they appear much better. Don't know if something happened in
 the conversion process or what. But for the most part the women are very 
beautiful...makes me want to move further south <grin>. Seriously where does 
one find beautiful babes like that, that want to be photographed. Oh well some
 people have all the luck. 

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6861
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 10/31/93  6:47p
Subj: Magazines 1 of 3                        Refer: 10271
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Looking for a great price on magazine subscriptions? We have over 900

Chris, this is CDROM_SALE...

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 6862
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/31/93  9:59p
Subj: PLANET_CONNECT                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey Folks,

If any of you have an interest in all this Planet Connect mania, ask
your sysop to pick up PLANET_CONNECT... I've recently been named
moderator of the echo.  There's no rules over there either |)

Planet Connect is a service which gives FidoNet sysops a means of
distributing data via satellites.  Armed with $600.00 worth of hardware,
a sysop can get the entire BACKBONE and FILEBONE for $40.00/month, with
no strings attached.... Right now, the majority of those who distribute
Fido mail are signing on with the service.  Within a few months, all
major FidoNet links will use Planet Connect services.  It's very
possible that these major links will be established WITHIN the month.

What's currently happening with Planet Connect is kinda like what
happened to shareware CD ROMs 3-4 years ago:

Creating shareware CD ROMs was one of the first ways a sysop could make
money using his "BBS knowledge".  Up until a few years ago, a sysop's
knowledge really wasn't worth anything - it was valuable knowledge, just
not anything you could make money with.  Welp, along came cheap CD ROM
players and the sysops led the charge for CD ROM technology. They
published shareware CDs. They bought shareware CDs. They sold shareware
CDs.  Their users bought shareware CDs. Their friends bought shareware
Cds.  Hell, Aunt Irma even bought a shareware CD. And a hooray to all
who capitalized on their knowledge. That's happening again with
services/technology like Planet Connect.

Planet Connect gives sysops *access* to their satellite feeds.  When the
information age gets here (infinite # of cable TV stations), there
will be similar services - services that will give enterprising sysops a
*means* of distributing whatever data they want to distribute.  Planet
Connect is the first of these type services.

Planet Connect can be a publishing media just like CD ROM has
been: It's nothing more than a *way* to get a product into a consumer's
hand.  When the information age gets here, we'll have the knowledge to
publish via satellites - just as we're presently doing with CD ROM
discs.

tim
moderator
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From: VADE FORRESTER                         Number: 6863
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/30/93  3:22p
Subj: Cinemania Upgrade                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone got the Cinemania upgrade package for a reasonable price?

... Blood's thicker than water; and it tastes better too!
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From: JOE TOON                               Number: 6864
  To: JASON MICHAELS                           Date: 10/30/93 12:40p
Subj: Re: Dune I & Ii On Cd-rom               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JM>         Are there any Dune freaks out there who have played Dune I
JM>         or Dune II on CD-ROM?  If so,  did you play the original
JM>         releases?  If you have done so could you tell me the differences
JM>         on the CD-ROM?  I am willing to purchase Dune II if it is an
JM>         expanded or enhanced version of the original.  I don't want to
JM>         buy the same game twice.

Humm.. Dune Disk & CD-ROM version is the same story line except it has a
cooler beginning (LOT cooler) and digitized speech thoughout.  Hum.. didn't
know there was a Dune II CD-Rom out but if there is I'll probably will play
it within the week.

- Joe

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From: RICHARD KAAPKE                         Number: 6865
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/31/93  2:13a
Subj: Cheap CD-ROM prices                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have nothing to gain from this short plug (other than perhaps this
dealer's pricing going down even further because of volume increase):

CD-ROM Club
PO Box 2247
Buena Park, CA 90621
(714) 522-3554 - ask for catalog of over 800 titles.

Sample: &th Guest $43, caddies $4ea, Dagger of Amon Ra (Sierra) $18.
These are membership prices - higher for non-members. In my case, the
membership fee was recovered with my first order (comparing the savings to
the next best price I could find).

 þ WinQwk 2.0 a#0 þ Unregistered Evaluation Copy


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From: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN                      Number: 6866
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/31/93 11:56a
Subj: Review of Busty Babes - V.II            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bob,

The 480 lines of the message never made it to San Diego. One of the mail
tossers somewhere along the line truncated it so the only thing I saw was part
of the sysnopsis. If the bbs has it in a file, how bout posting the filename.

I fully agree with what I have read so far.

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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 6867
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/31/93 10:49a
Subj: CD-ROM readers!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


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   * NEC Model-36 (U).............$125.00  EXT,SCSI,NO SCSI CARD
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   LEFT. Don't miss out, we have 5 in stock!
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From: JOHN RUIZ                              Number: 6868
  To: DANIEL PARDUE                            Date: 10/30/93  7:12p
Subj: Panasonic 562b Driver                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DP> > My 562b CDROM will not recognize Drive Name MVCD001
  > > when I am installing
  > > with SBCD driver that is MSCD001.  On opening is
  > > saying that the drive
  >In your config.sys you should have the line:

DP>C:\SBCD\SBCD.SYS /P:250 /D:MSCD001 /T:1 /S:AO

  >included in the kit.

DP>In your autoexec.bat you should have the line:
  > C:SBCD\MSCDEX.EXE /V /D:MSCD001 /M:15

DP>I hope that helps. It is a really nice drive

DP>---
  > * Origin:  Dan's Domain  New Orleans, LA (1:396/27.4)

        Hi Daniel....  With the help by so many great caring people
        I was able to edit my autoexec and config file so that I was
        able to enjoy the CD-ROM as it should be.  Thanks to "ALL"
        that took the time to respond and hope that it was able to
        help others with similar problem.  Thanks again.
        John Ruiz

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 6869
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 10/31/93  2:30p
Subj: Carmen San Diego for sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JJ>I have a NEW Where is Carmen San Diego Delux CD for sale
JJ>20.00 includes shipping

   Is it the whole package or just the CD?
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ Procomm only had to work once, when I Downloaded QModem


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 6870
  To: TIM SCHOOLER                             Date: 10/31/93  2:32p
Subj: Cinemania                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TS>Microsoft Cinemania, multimedia edition for Windows. Over 19,000 movie

TS>                                35.00

   How about a trade?


CD-ROMS for Sale

Magazine Rack ..................................  $15
Romware Vol 2 No 2 Windows .....................  $10
Sherlock Holmes on Disk ........................  $19
CD-ROM Premier .................................  $14
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $19
Toolworks US Atlas and Automap .................  $24
Toolworks World Atlas ..........................  $24
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $69
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $10
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $19

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ I don't eat snails - I only eat fast food


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 6871
  To: MIKE GERARDI                             Date: 10/31/93  2:33p
Subj: Street atlas cd-rom                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG>DeLorme Street Atlas USA on CD ROM

MG>        Asking $50.00 and I pay the shipping.  NO COD's

   How about $25 or a trade?


CD-ROMS for Sale

Magazine Rack ..................................  $15
Romware Vol 2 No 2 Windows .....................  $10
Sherlock Holmes on Disk ........................  $19
CD-ROM Premier .................................  $14
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $19
Toolworks US Atlas and Automap .................  $24
Toolworks World Atlas ..........................  $24
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $69
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $10
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $19

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ Chicken Little only has to be right once.


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From: MICHAEL FAIRCHILD                      Number: 6872
  To: DAVID NGHIEM                             Date: 10/30/93  8:14a
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-ROM SITUATION              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can someone please help me sort this
 >problem for me by answering these questions:
 >1.   Is selling Adult CD-ROMs illegal?

           Big gray area thier, lot of factors involved,
               1. Seller to buyer age questions
               2. State, County, City laws and the Big boys,
                  Federal...
       I'd say in todays climate, both yes and no. (CYA)


 >2.   Some sysops have Adult CD-ROM access.  Are the CD's they have
 >     licensed for BBS use?  I would think many of the GIF's are
 >     copyrighted and in violation of copyrights.

             When you purchase an adult cdrom disk, YOU are buying it.
             The seller who is the middle man has nothing to do with
             licenses,copyrights ect. Most all XXX cd's do come BBS
             ready, so they imply that they are.
             Most probley the only license involved is the one involved
             in the cd's copyright company logo.
             Offering an adult area is serious biz........
             Most of the files contained on XXX cd's probley are copyrighted
             but if you get busted, those charges will not be the ones that
             you will be concerned with.

 >3.   Are there any Adult CD-ROMs that are licensed specifically
 >     for use on a BBS for a sysop?  I think "Giffy Gold",
 >     "Busty Babes II", and "Amateur Models" are okay for use but
 >     am not sure.

                    Sorry, have to pass on that one.
        Mike F.

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From: MICHAEL FAIRCHILD                      Number: 6873
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/30/93  9:00a
Subj: Mitzumi cdrom drivers                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            Whats the most up to date driver for these cdrom drives.
            I have the older version that reqiures a setver before
            workin.
             Thanx!
                 Mike F.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6874
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 10/31/93 12:29a
Subj: BUSTY BABES 1                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GS>Maybe I did see the 3.0 version.  If anyone has the 3.0 version of BB please
GS>quote me a price.

$19 + $4 s/h

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6875
  To: ANDREW JONES                             Date: 10/31/93 12:29a
Subj: Shareware cd-roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AJ>getting a shareware CD or two (BBSing is getting to be too much for my
AJ>poor phone bill). I was wondering if anyone could recommend a title and
AJ>from where I may obtain it (also, price).
AJ>Here is what I'm looking for:
AJ>  Something of between 400 and 650 meg
AJ>  Something with lots of different types of files: clipart, GIFS,
AJ>utilities, Games, Sound files, etc.
AJ>  And something whose files are easily accesible through DOS (for
AJ>someone who is NOT using it for a BBS)

I recommend the Pier series.  Pier 3 has the most recent files available,
a TRUE graphic user interface, complete and accurate file listings for
BBS, and 98% of the files are dated later than April, 1993.  In stock at
$39, and we have a special on right now where you can get Pier 2 for free
with the Pier 3 purchase.  Pier 2 has around 75% 1993 file dates, with
the remainder 1992, and less than 1% duplication to Pier 3.  Great combo
for 39 bucks.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
 509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)

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From: KAWAI WONG                             Number: 6876
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 10/31/93  1:09a
Subj: Swimwear CD needed!!!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÿ@ORIGIN :MicroSolutions BBS-(615) 868-3163 USR v32b/v42b (1:116/109) N
-> KW>         I am looking for a Swimwear CD called Swimwear 1993 for my BBS.
-> KW> I have called both Boris and Groupware but neither one has it.  Can KW>
-> somebody tell me where can I get one (used one is fine)??  Thanx. -+-
-> Got what do you offer?
-> 512-939-9822
->
-> Pat

   If it's used, I'll give you $20 plus Shipping...
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From: RICHARD VONZEL                         Number: 6877
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/30/93 12:14p
Subj: cdrom drive for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

   Anyone needing a cd-rom drive, I have a Tandy (Mutsumi, old) drive for sale.
Internal, 8 bit card great for a BBS. 135.00.


Thanks,
Richard

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 6878
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 10/30/93 12:50a
Subj: CD-ROM drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MB> ********** This weeks special... Philips CM-215/10 SCSI internal *******

Hey Matt!

        Havent seen you around here in a while. You didn't happen to
        get any more of those HITACHI external drives in did you? I'm
        looking for one more.

CJK

PS- The drives are working GREAT!


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From: ANTHONY PHILLIPS                       Number: 6879
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/31/93  4:10p
Subj: WANTED USED CD'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for used CD's. Not the music kind. I would like anything from
games
to adult disks. Let me know what you have and how much you want for them.
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From: TANDY WAY                              Number: 6880
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/31/93 11:48a
Subj: CDS WANTED                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am a rooky at this and probably ripe for the picking. I just installed
a somy I think it is called maybe sumy cdrom drive and I also have the
thunder pro16 card for sound. I want to get some useful cds and not sure
where to start. I don't think I want the night owl stuff as that is too
general in nature. for a start I think I want the sams cdrom which
contains the amateur radio call book for the united states maybe north
america
I don't know who to contact to get it.
also I would like to explore the multi media capability I now have.  I
am totally blind and I am aware that some cds don't speak through my
speech equipment because they use a g.u.i. and that is out of the
question.
I have been carrying this echo on my bbs for a long time but never had a
reason to venture in here. someone take me under your wing and help
please.
Tandy way sysop t.a.b.b.

... Beer cans empty! Memory Full! Zzzzzzzzzz!!!
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From: TANDY WAY                              Number: 6881
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/31/93 11:48a
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

does anyone have any pro or con to say about starvector? I hear they are
good guys to deal with and if there is a problem they take care of it no
squack.

... Don't Confuse Me With Facts...I KNOW!!
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From: TANDY WAY                              Number: 6882
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 10/31/93 11:48a
Subj: RE: CD-ROM CATALOG!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hello mark I am brand new at this cd stuff and ripe for the picking or
fleecing as it were. please send me your catalog
tandy way
4803 cypress tree dr.
tampa fl 33624-0644

... Kill the wabbit!!!  Kill the wabbit!!!
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From: TANDY WAY                              Number: 6883
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 10/31/93 11:48a
Subj: CALL HOME                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ronald why don't you call a little closer to home and support a
localbbs? free access
tandy sysop


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From: TANDY WAY                              Number: 6884
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 10/31/93 11:48a
Subj: YOUR COMPANY                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

mike I am a babe in the woods just got a new cd rom and have 0 cds for
it accept music ones. it is the mitsumy drive and I also installed the
thunder pro16 sound card.  I am scared to death to buy a cd that by
description looks like something I want then I get it and I can not
operate it.  I am totally blind and use speech output for screen
reading.  I have been told that if I buy a cd from you and it will not
talk through my synthesizer that you will take it back no squack. is
this policy true?
I don't know exactly what I want for the drive.  I have a starvector
catalog I found on genie.  I thought I might look through it.  I think I
would like a encylipedia and maybe other reference books. maybe barletts
quotations or something. I do not want adult material or games. I want
either music or multi media cds and or I want applications stuff like
the above or like the amateur radio call book I think it is called sams.
please advise here or send me netmail to my own bbs which I own.
tandy way sysop t.a.b.b. 377/6


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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 6885
  To: ROBERT MCELWEE                           Date: 10/30/93  5:15p
Subj: Re: Hitachi CDROM Drives                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RM> RM> Do the Hitachi CD ROM Drives that you sell come with caddies?  If 
RM> RM> not, how much extra are they?

RM> I dont know about his but the 8 I am selling come with
RM> caddies...

If you are selling them for less than $100 each, I'll take them. You can reach
me at 804/340-9138.
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From: BRIAN SANDUSKY                         Number: 6886
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/31/93  9:42a
Subj: Busty Babes II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I was totally discussed in the Busty Babes II CD-Rom disc. I have Busty Babes
I rel.1 and have been waiting for a long time for a sequel to follow, when I
was that Busty Babes II was out I was jumping with JOY as I am a TIT man well
after getting the disc and going over it with a fine tooth comb I found that
there was very few what you could call BUSTY BABES on it, most pictures are of
nice looking women but that is not what I was looking for I wanted to see BIG
TITS like on the BUSTY BABES I even though it only contain about 50% of big
boobed ladies on it and the other 50% being other subject matter that was ok,
but BUSTY BABES II does not even match that it only has 180meg of women on it
of which 5%-10% might be considered busty babes. There is more SHAREWARE on
this disc then ADULT material. So my point is that this disc was a rip off
playing on the name of the 1st BUSTY BABES 1 and misleading you to believe
that you would be getting a disc of really BIG BUSTED ladies NOT SO. I do not
recommend this disc to ant REAL TIT men out there you can bet I'll be
returning it back to where I purchased it from. Guys put your money down on
something.
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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 6887
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/30/93  7:56p
Subj: CD Discs For Sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following CD Discs I would like to part with:

$12.50  John O'Conner Associates
$17.50  Night Owl v9
$ 7.50  Original Shareware 1992
$ 7.50  PsL September 1993 Issue
$17.50  Storm v1 (Must be 18!)

Respond here if interested or call 517-263-0135. Postage and/or COD is
additionaly and your responsibility.

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From: RUSS MICHAELSON                        Number: 6888
  To: HAROLD YARBROUGH                         Date: 10/31/93  2:23a
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HY>          Nightowl 8.0.....................................

        Harold, Do you still have this cdrom for sale ??

        Russ
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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 6889
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 10/31/93  1:27p
Subj: CD Reviews                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bob, I sent a message out regarding Busty Babes II this 
morning and want to let you and everyone know how I feel
about the service you do for the purchasers of adult CDs.

As I stated in my post mentioned above, I disagreed with
your review regarding some of the things I found to be 
negatives about the disc.

As you say in all your reviews, it's just one man's
opinion.

You spend a great deal of your spare time (after your
regular job) doing what I consider to be an extremely 
in-depth analysis of the CDs you review.  
WITHOUT COMPENSATION!!!

I feel the publishers AND the customers owe you a great 
deal.  The former for the ways they can improve their
products and the latter for what to expect from a disc
before they purchase it.

Although we disagreed somewhat regarding some things 
on BB2, I believe you gave your honest opinion on the
disc.  I do have the UTMOST RESPECT for you & your work!!!
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From: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN                      Number: 6890
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 11/01/93  5:51a
Subj: Busty Babes II review                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for another excellent review. While I was reading your review I was
checking out the images that you had mentioned specifically. It's obvious to me
that you were very critical in checking the files. I hadn't even noticed the
"lizard tongue" until I saw the review.

If the publishers take to heart your suggestions I can only see improvement in
quality in future releases.

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From: DAVE BAKKER                            Number: 6891
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/31/93  6:12p
Subj: VIRUS! in NightOwl-10 CD                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

( 10-28-93 ) Joel Millecan wrote to Aulton White about VIRUS! in
NightOwl-10 CD

JM- * Forwarded from 1:3645/60, Dragon's Den in Valdosta Ga
JM- * Originally to All in the WARNINGS echo.
JM-
JM-
JM-A Virus has been found in the file (((SF2_UP.ZIP)))...
JM-On Night Owl's v10 CD. The file contains the "Memory Lapse" Virus.
JM-
JM-The Virus is detectable with McAfee Scan v108.
JM-
JM-The File is an Update to Street Fighter Game...
JM-
JM-Delete it from your Filebases!;-)

Has this been verified?

Dave


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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 6892
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/01/93  5:08p
Subj: BUY PIER3 GET PIER2 FREE!               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 MS> -------------------
 MS> LIMITED TIME OFFER:  Buy Pier 3, and get Pier 2 FOR FREE!  NO DUPES!!
 MS> -------------------------------------------------------


Arhhhhhh..... sure, put out this deal AFTER I order the CD's from you. 8-)

CJK

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From: GREG JONES                             Number: 6893
  To: JESSE SCHMELZER                          Date: 10/31/93  4:58p
Subj: Re: Pioneer Cdrom                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Re: Re: Pioneer Cdrom
 
> In a message on <20-Oct-93 07:28:01> John Anthony (1:3406/14) wrote:
>  JA> I have a Pioneer Cdrom DRM-600A for sale, without cables 800.00 bucks
>  JA> Call bbs at 1-503-364-9998
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> I'll give ya 400.00 for it. can get em new for 689.00

Please tell me where you can get them for 689.00

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From: MARC CHIARELLO                         Number: 6894
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 10/30/93  1:14p
Subj: CD Encyclopedia for sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

þ In a message originally to Bob Brodovsky on 10-23-93, MICHAEL SELLS said:
MS > In a msg on <Oct 20 00:46>, Bob Brodovsky of 1:203/931
MS > writes:

MS > BB> MICHAEL Said this about CD Encyclopedia for sale to ALL %a. 
MS > BB>  
MS > MS>CD-ROMS 
MS > MS>I have a couple copies of Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia for 
MS > MS>Windows for sale. 
MS > MS>Version 1.01  (1992 edition)..........................Best offer 
MS > MS>Version 2.01  (1993 edition, just released)...........Best offer 
MS > MS>If interested, post here or call 1-504-893-7279. 
MS > BB>  
MS > BB> I'm intrested... What do ya think there worth? I really have no 
MS > BB> Idea.. 
MS > New, they go for around $95.00. Looking for around
MS > $35.00-$40.00 for the 1992 edition, a little more for the
MS > 1993.
MS > Michael Sells

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MS >  * Origin: Sportscards BBS Covington, LA.  (1:390/5.4)
I will offer $35 for the '92 version and also pay S & H.  Please let me know
if this can be arranged.  I am definately interested in the '92 version,
thanks...Marc
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From: MARC CHIARELLO                         Number: 6895
  To: JEFF HUBERT                              Date: 10/30/93  1:16p
Subj: ROM DRIVES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

þ In a message originally to Richie Nebb on 10-22-93, Jeff Hubert said:
JH > Sorry your mitsumi cd-rom doesn't have a 64k cache, it only
JH > has a 32k
JH > which can affect the performance of the drive a lot!
JH > I have seen several places that have your cd-rom drive and
JH > it only
JH > has a 32k cache.

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JH > (1:261/1137)
My LU-005 runs just fine on my system with a 32k cache.  If you set up extra
stock and sector buffers in Extended/Expanded RAM, it runs just fine.  My
drive only took 2 1/2 seconds longer to load a program than a 280ms drive on a
486 DX 33. 
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From: STEVE TOTZKE                           Number: 6896
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/30/93  1:28p
Subj: Cheap CD-ROM drives wanted              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi all!  I'm looking for some CD-ROM drives that somebody is willing to let go
for cheap.  These drives must be SCSI (or must be able to hook more than one
up to the same controller), they DO NOT have to be fast (they are going to be
used strictly on a BBS), and if possibly, they have to be external drives.  If
anybody has anything like that, please let me know.  Thanks in advance!

                                                -=/[ Steve T. ]\=-

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6897
  To: DAVID BURKE                              Date: 11/02/93  1:15a
Subj: Re: Night Owl 10                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->> US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263
->> Boris Osadciw

>>       You have an 800 number, gee, I have been ordering from the
>>     toll line kinda makes me wish I had read the echos better ;)
>>     But what the heck is a few hours more or less on a SysOps
>>     phone bill.

Well Dave, it's been that way for a little over two months now and it's
been posted on all of our ad's.

Gee, now that you know the number, that means our bill will go up and
yours will go down. Maybe we should change the number....grin!!

Chat with you soon....

Boris Osadciw

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From: RUSS MICHAELSON                        Number: 6898
  To: HAROLD YARBROUGH                         Date: 11/01/93 10:11p
Subj: cd-roms - niteowl 8                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          Nightowl 8.0.....................................

        Harold, Do you still have this cdrom for sale ??

        Russ
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From: LARRY HUEGELE                          Number: 6899
  To: JASON TAYNOR                             Date: 11/01/93  9:21a
Subj: Wanter CD-ROM Titles                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* Replying to a message originally to Blake Barr on Oct-26-93

JT> Blake, I do have a copy of 7th Guest that I can let you have
JT> for $25 + $3 shipping.  It's in decent shape, and isn't the OEM
JT> version.  It has the video, etc.....

Excuse my stupidity, but what is an OEM version?

TTYLaterz...


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From: JOHN RICKER                            Number: 6900
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 11/01/93  5:50p
Subj: CD Discs For Sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  |o| $17.50  Storm v1 (Must be 18!)

I'll give ya 18.00 shipped ?

John

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From: BILL HENDERSON                         Number: 6901
  To: TANDY WAY                                Date: 11/01/93  5:32a
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I have purchased several CD's from Mike at Starvector and have nothing but
good things to say about them. The cd's arrived when he said they would, the
price was very good, and to tell the truth I'm in the process of ordering
again from Mike. Hope this helps.

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From: DON NELSON                             Number: 6902
  To: TANDY WAY                                Date: 11/02/93  1:55a
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* On 10-31-93 in a message to All, Tandy Way said:
TW> does anyone have any pro or con to say about starvector? I
TW> hear they are
TW> good guys to deal with and if there is a problem they take
TW> care of it no
TW> squack.

I've never had a problem, but they are the BEST mail order company I have
every dealt with.  Orders are shipped when promised and the quoted price, etc.

"Highly recommended," in my book.

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From: CLIFF NYSTROM                          Number: 6903
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/01/93  6:20p
Subj: CD's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

1993 Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia $40. 1992 Cinemania $35, price
includes 2 day priority mail to your door. Leave me e-mail with a phone
number if you are interested. Both CD's require Windows to run.

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From: DANNY TSENG                            Number: 6904
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 10/29/93 11:08p
Subj: OS2 Shareware                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 ED> I have OS/2 archive for $18 if you are interested.
        How many Megabytes on the CD?


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From: DAVID MUENCH                           Number: 6905
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/01/93  8:41p
Subj: CDROM                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in getting a CDROM for my BBS, but I need to be able to attach
it to a Novell 3.11 server. I don't know an incredible amount about attaching
CD's to Novell servers, but I take it I either need a SCSI drive, or a drive
with special drivers. Does anyone have a slow drive that can be hooked to
Novell 3.11 and used over the network for sale cheap? :)

 David

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From: ERIC LUZUM                             Number: 6906
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 11/02/93 12:08a
Subj: Re: busty babes 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

what's the price for one of the collector's edition (ver 1.0) of bb.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 6907
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 11/02/93 10:36a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Volume II               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting David Vangelder to All <=-

 DV> I also read Bob Jackson's review and I feel that he
 DV> presented it differently that his others.  In my opinion,
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is true. It was intentional. Apparently I misjudged the value of the
"Statistics" section when I deleted the "Mb of GIFs" and "Avg. size of GIF"
kinds of data. I'll put that back in next time.

 DV> the most disappointing things about the disc were not
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Apparently we place different values in different aspects of image CDs, and
that's OK. I'm still trying to learn what folks value so I can make my
reviews useful. If I'm not succeeding, then I'm wasting my time and theirs.

 DV> 1.)     Back cover indicates "Click your mouse on
 DV> 1,000 of my friends...", which would mean
 DV> to me that there are 1,000 models on the
 DV> disc.

I agree that the wording on the back insert is vague; that's why I said what
I did about the "spirit" of the wording there.

 DV> 2.)     This disc should be a SHAREWARE disc with
 DV> a BONUS of 182M of GIFS! (There is more
 DV> shareware than images.)

I don't like the concept of a "mixed identity" CD either, and I said so
in my review of PGG1. I didn't feel it was worth repeating here. Other 
buyers may not mind or even like the idea, particularly sysops who can 
offer both services (imagery and shareware) with one CD drive.

 DV> Anyone who reads this echo regularly is
 DV> well aware of the close, friendly
 DV> relationship between Bob Jackson and Lee
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I've never actually met Lee except through this echo and one phone call so
"close" I'm not so sure about; "friendly", yes, and proud of it, just like 
the "relationship" that you and I have established. (Same can be said of
Mike Shannon whom I've never actually met either.)

 DV> Noga. I am not flinging any desparaging
 DV> thoughts at Bob as he has always been
 DV> extremely fair & impartial, in my opinion,
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Thank you, I'm trying to be.

 DV> on all of his reveiws. I can sympothize
 DV> with the position he found himself in,
 DV> regarding the review of this disc.  I find
 DV> Lee's post above (especially after all the
 DV> HYPE she has made about this disc) to be
 DV> very inconsiderate of Bob at best and HIGH
 DV> PRESSURE TACTICTS at worst.           ^^^^
 DV> ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^

I can't say I felt any pressure from Lee regarding BBV2. I've tried to be
consistent in my dealings with all the producers/dealers whom have sent me
CDs for review. I spend a lot of time wordsmithing my reviews and BBV2 was
no exception. I think it adequately expresses my opinion of the CD: Not 
everything I wanted it to be but certainly a step in the right direction.

 DV> I also notice that of the 1,001 images on the disc, that
 DV> there MAY be 25% (being VERY GENEROUS) that are BUSTY.
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Someone else noticed this and posted a rather acerbate message saying so.
Lee had mentioned in a prior message that there were no "150ZZZ" types on
BBV2, but as you say one person's "busty" is another's "adequate", or in
the other direction, "grotesque".

 DV> him to correct an error in my disc's review.  I am sure that
 DV> Bob will confirm that I was neither nasty nor combative in
 DV> my telephone conversation with him and was, in fact, very
 DV> friendly!  In addition, since this is my FOURTH post on this
     ^^^^^^^^^
Very true! I also did not feel pressured from you to change the text in my
review of Southern Beauties. I did it because I wanted to be correct. In
that case, we were dealing with measurable numbers, not opinions, and I
was actually grateful (if a bit embarrassed) for your pointing out the
misunderstanding that led to my error.

 DV> Directory               Total Bytes       Number of Files

 DV> BOY_GIRL..................4,071,114..............24
 DV> GALPALS..................17,769,135..............98
 DV> HOTBUNS...................7,110,193..............41

I think I'll adopt this style of data presentation in the "Statistics"
sections of my future reviews.

Thanks for the continued support for my reviews, Dave. I'm really looking 
forward to GIoF's next releases. Cheers!
... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: LESTER CHEVEALLIER                     Number: 6908
  To: AULTON WHITE                             Date: 11/03/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: Adult cds for sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Aulton White to All <=-

 AW> Name                Rating  BBS      Description                Price
 AW> Ready
 AW> Storm #4            XXX      Y         Latest in the series        $25
 AW>
 AW> ****************************************
 AW> ** Must provide proof of age over 21! **
 AW> ****************************************
 AW> Does not include
 AW> Shipping Orders only (800) 377-5812         Check/COD/MO
 AW> Info        (912) 241-0202
 AW> Fax         (912) 241-0402
 AW> BBS         (912) 245-1865
 AW> FIDO        1:3645/30    NetMail
 AW> 
 AW> Netmail or call for price or other CDs available

 AW> -!- DB 1.54/003043
 AW>  ! Origin: The HOT South BBS (1:3645/30)

 I am interested in the the Storm #4 CD.  How do I go about ordering it
 other than using the phone.  You left no address or shipping charges in
 you message.

                                Thanx
                                Lester Cheveallier

... I call things as I see them; If I didn't see them, I make them up!
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From: LESTER CHEVEALLIER                     Number: 6909
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 11/03/93 12:05a
Subj: Re: Free cd-rom catalog                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Daniel Pardue to Steve Greeno <=-

 SG> SEND FOR YOUR FREE CD-ROM CATALOG
 SG> OVER 200 TITLES ---  $10.00 TO $50.00  (MOST UNDER $25.00)
 SG> FREE SHIPPING

 Please send one to:

 Lester D. Cheveallier
 3203 Polaris Dr.
 Millington, Tn.  38053

 

... Don't blame me... I voted for Bush!
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From: JAMES BLISS                            Number: 6910
  To: MANNY CASAO                              Date: 11/03/93  9:55p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM DRIVE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

It's about one year old and in excelent condition.


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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 6911
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/03/93  8:02p
Subj: Shareware CD Titles                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                  "NEW & IMPROVED USER-FRIENDLY PRICE LIST!"
       "WE DON'T CARE ABOUT MAKING MONEY - WE JUST LOVE TO SELL CD'S!"
        Over 750 disc titles & hardware products are now available.
To order, contact:
                                 Joe Rinehart
                              5400 Lakewood Road
                           Ravenna, Ohio 44266-9565
  Voice: (216) 296-9831  24 hours
  Voice: (216) 296-1633 6pm-midnight (EST)
  Voice/Messages/Fax: (216) 297-1332 24 hours
  Toll-Free (in Ohio Only) 1-800-521-2881 6pm - midnight (EST)
  Data/Fax (216) 296-4446 ZyXel 16.8 v.42bis The Blue Parrot RBBS 24HRS
  FidoNet: 1:157/479
  KesherNet: 18:711/176
  RBBSNet: 8:965/13
  WWIVNet: 2@2659
  CD CATALOG FREQ:  CDLIST.ZIP or majic name CDLIST
  COMPLETE CATALOG FREQ:  PARROT.ZIP (contains all products new & used)

SHIPPING TERMS:  Purchaser pays shipping!  $5.00 C.O.D.Charge, 2 lbs or less
for $2.90 second day U.S.P.S. Priority Mail.  $1.00 Handling fee on orders
under $50.00.  International orders shipped acccording to U.S.Customs
regulations.

MISC. INFORMATION:
Make checks payable to:  Carl Knorr or Joe Rinehart
10% discount for verified sysops or resale orders over $250!
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Title                                 Category   Price        Notes    |
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CD Caddies                                  mi    5.00  with disc order 4.50
PC Sig 7                                    sh    7.25
PC Sig 9                                    sh    7.25
Phoenix 3.0                                 sh    8.70
Ham Radio                                   sh   10.88
Original Shareware l992                     sh   10.88
Shareware Overload                          sh   10.88
Windoware                                   sh   10.88
Windows Plus                                sh   10.88
Software Vault I                            sh   11.60
The California Collection                   sh   11.60
VGA Spectrum I                              sh   11.60
Wizpack                                     sh   11.60
1001 Utilities                              sh   13.05
America's Premier Shareware                 sh   13.05
CICA Microsoft windows                      sh   13.05
QRZ Ham Radio                               sh   13.05
Shareware Heaven                            sh   13.05
Software Vault II                           sh   13.05
Super CD II                                 sh   13.05
Remstar Vol. I                              sh   14.50
Shareware Studio II                         sh   14.50
VGA Spectrum II                             sh   14.50
Adventures in Heaven                        sh   15.95
Learning Heaven                             sh   15.95
Phoenix Rom 4.0                             sh   15.95
Doctor of Shareware                         sh   17.40
Doctor of Windows                           sh   17.40
Games Bonanza + Anti virus (1993)           sh   17.40
Hamware 1993                                sh   17.40
Info MAC shareware for Macintosh            sh   17.40
Mega CD rom 1                               sh   17.40
Night Owl 4.1                               sh   17.40
Night Owl 4.2                               sh   17.40
PC Sig World of Windows                     sh   17.40
Power Pak Gold                              sh   17.40
Shareware Gold II                           sh   17.40
Shareware Online I                          sh   17.40
Shareware Online Volume 2                   sh   17.40
Shareware Tiger                             sh   17.40
Straight from Heaven                        sh   17.40
Top 2000+ Shareware                         sh   17.40
Ultimate Shareware Collection               sh   17.40
Up All Night                                sh   17.40
Windows Master                              sh   17.40
Windows Shareware Gold Vol 3                sh   17.40
Business Tools                              sh   18.85
Media Library Mega Media 1                  sh   18.85
Media Library Mega Media 2                  sh   18.85
Media Library-- Mega Media 3                sh   18.85
DataBase Made Easy                          sh   20.30
ASP Advantage (ASP Shareware)               sh   20.30  (Released 10/18/93)
All American Shareware Galore               sh   21.75
Doctor of Fun Pack                          sh   21.75
Hacker Chronicles                           sh   21.75
PC Sig 12                                   sh   21.75
Phoenix Phun & Games                        sh   21.75
Shareware 1993 September                    sh   21.75
So Much Shareware 2                         sh   21.75
So Much Shareware 3                         sh   21.75
Ultimate Shareware Collection 2             sh   21.75
Windows 1993                                sh   21.75
MS-Dos Explorer-- Volume 3                  sh   23.20
Night Owl 9                                 sh   24.65
Night Owl Graphics ROM                      sh   24.65
Resource Library Language Operation         sh   24.65
Winware #3                                  sh   24.65
Monster Media 93                            sh   26.10
Shareware Avalanche                         sh   26.10
Shareware Explorer WINDOWS version          sh   26.10
Gigabyte Gold                               sh   27.55
Mega A/V 1                                  sh   27.55
Mega CD rom 2                               sh   27.55
Mega WIN/OS2                                sh   27.55
Shareware Perlen 2                          sh   27.55
Amsoft World of Ham Radio Vol. II           sh   31.90
RBBS in a Box                               sh   31.90
Night Owl 10                                sh   32.63
Lion Share                                  sh   36.25
Shareware Extravaganza                      sh   40.60
Wildcat Gold                                sh   42.05
World Vision                                sh   42.05
Shareware Magic                             sh   43.50
Libris Britannia                            sh   47.85
Shareware Explorer Quad Vers/4 ROMS         sh   50.00
Hamcall - April 1993                        sh   53.00
Windows Paradise                            sh   75.00

... We are NOT connected with the West Branch Connection in any way!
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From: GEORGE TRACY                           Number: 6912
  To: TANDY WAY                                Date: 11/01/93  5:52p
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Tandy!

31 Oct 93 11:48, Tandy Way wrote to All:

 TW> does anyone have any pro or con to say about starvector?

yes, and it's all good.

 TW> I hear they are good guys to deal with and if there is a
 TW> problem they take care of it no squack.

this is very accurate.

George

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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 6913
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/03/93  8:05a
Subj: NEC CD-ROM readers                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   ******************************
                  *          MEG*A*BITE          *
                  *     CD-ROM NEWSFLASH #13     *
                   ******************************
I have a large quanity of NICE NEC Model 36 (used) units for sale.
I have priced the units for quick sale because of the number we have
available. Here are the specs for these top quality NEC drives:

True SCSI units
External desktop units
450 msec access time
150 ksec transfer rate
IBM, PC or MAC compatiable
Power Supply
Interface cable (daisy chain ribbon or cable)

               Now only...........$125.00ea.
               Warranty is 30 days!

We will make you custom daisy chain ribbon for cost when purchasing
multiple drives. These are ready for immediate shipments. We accept
VISA, M/C, Carte Blanche and Diners Club with NO SURCHARGE.
Many other new and used units available, call today for your order or
information at:

                       MEG*A*BITE
                       Voice and FAX (517)892-2935
                       9am-9pm EST



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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 6914
  To: EDDIE IMPERIAL                           Date: 11/03/93  8:05a
Subj: CD'S WANTED!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EI>Other Good Quality Disks considered!

CD-ROMS for Sale

Q&A 4.0 from Symantec ..........................  $39
Magazine Rack ..................................  $15
Romware Vol 2 No 2 Windows .....................  $10
Sherlock Holmes on Disk ........................  $19
CD-ROM Premier .................................  $14
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $19
Toolworks US Atlas and Automap .................  $24
Toolworks World Atlas ..........................  $24
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $69
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $10
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $19

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt it.


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From: DON KUHWARTH                           Number: 6915
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/02/93 11:00a
Subj: ***SHAREWARE TITLES***                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello,
  I tried for about 14 hours to file request your catalog, but your system
(157/479) was constantly busy.  Perhaps you could offer an alternate method of
getting it?  Netmail me at the origin line system, or Internet:
don.kuhwarth@24stex.com.  Or US Mail at: Midtown Computer Services, PO Box
188263, Sacramento, CA 95818-8263.  Thanks!

Don


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From: TOM SMITH                              Number: 6916
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/03/93  2:42p
Subj: Cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@ORIGIN :1:151/147                                                   N BSR
external 600 msec. All hardware and manual. Like new, around $140.00 (919)
365-9418 voice. Tommy


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From: FRED IRIZARRY                          Number: 6917
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/03/93  7:07p
Subj: Sound Blaster PRO                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am selling a:
      ----------=================--------------
      >>>>>>>>> Sound Blaster Pro <<<<<<<<<<<<<
      ----------=================--------------
      Basic board (the "basic" means "no MIDI cable"
      If you don't have a MIDI KEYBOARD you DON'T
      NEED a MIDI cable), but you can add one in the
      Future.

For $100.00

I know i know, It's not a CD-ROM, But you can hook one up to it :)

I bought it on 10/6/92 for $168.25.
Have everything for it. Updated Pro Drivers too..

Why am I selling the Sound board??

I just bought the Sound Blaster 16! |:)

Leave a Message
                                Fred Irizarry

 * OLX 2.1 * Ever stop to think, and forget to start again?
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From: BILL BARNES                            Number: 6918
  To: BROTHER JAMES                            Date: 10/31/93 12:08p
Subj: Re: Who?                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Brother James to All <=-
 BJ> Who the hell is Chris Peak?

I don't know, but he seems to be a jerk.

Bill


... Two most common elements in the universe: Hydrogen & Stupidity.
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From: JOHN BARDEN                            Number: 6919
  To: KATHY MURPHY                             Date: 11/03/93 12:28a
Subj: Trade                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a Multi-Media Encyclopidia I would trade you for a Cd or perhaps
something else.. Let me know what you have to offer..
                                 John
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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 6920
  To: DANNY TSENG                              Date: 11/03/93  4:13p
Subj: OS2 Shareware                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Danny,

Answering a msg of <29 Oct 93>, from Danny Tseng to Ed Duchek:
fraid its sold.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: JEFF HUBERT                            Number: 6921
  To: WM KUNKEL                                Date: 11/02/93  4:37p
Subj: Cd- rom for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WK> I over heard a message to you , are you selling mitsumi double speed cd
  > roms for 229, if so tell me what it comes with, I'm more than likely
  > going to buy in the next week!!   any reply is appreciated.

It comes with the internal double speed drive, 16-bit interface(Not SCSI),
manual, and drivers (MSCDEX, cd-rom driver, music cd player(dos).
I also was able to get mitsumi's main and tech. support numbers which
I can give you. The drive has a one year warranty and has a front loading
tray(motorized). Here's my ad...

I can obtain some high-quality mitsumi internal DOUBLE-SPEED cd-rom 
drives for a low price, but I do have limited quantities.
The drive is the brand new mitsumi DOUBLE-SPEED (model FX001D) and it
comes with the manual, software, and 16-bit card.

The drives are BRAND NEW (never opened) and there specs are:
300k transfer rate! (double speed)
280ms access time
Photo-cd compatibe, and MPC compatible too!
New Automatic open/close door! 

The 16-bit card has been revised for easier cable connections
and these drives come with everything needed for installation!
No need to buy a seperate expensive SCSI card to install this drive 
like most other double cd-rom drives! 

ACT FAST, as these drives are priced at a low $230.00
plus shipping and there are LIMITED QUANTITIES!!
CALL (410) 442-2726 NOW!


 -- SPEED 1.30 [NR]: MONEY is to GOVERNMENT as DRUGS are to an ADDICT!

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From: GARY KIMBRELL                          Number: 6922
  To: GARY POPKIN                              Date: 11/02/93 10:37p
Subj: RE: cd's 4 sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Well if you dont have anything to trade I'd take $30 plus shipping
> for the " My Private Collection #1 " XXX -CD mostly explicit gif, over
> 650 megs!.

It is a little HIGH for a USED CD isn't it? I will offer $20 + $3 (2nd day U.S.
Mail) for a total of $23. Let me know and I will send the address.

Gary
NEC3657

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From: GARY KIMBRELL                          Number: 6923
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 11/02/93 10:41p
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> I have never had any problems with Starvector software.  Mike is an
> honest businessman, and gives very prompt service.  I have purchased 5
> titles from him, and I am very pleased with the expedient service, and
> ease of doing business with him.

Nothing but "Exellent Service" from Mike. I have ordered 8 CD's & 4 Caddies and
they arrived here on time and in prefect condition.


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From: ANISH ACHARYA                          Number: 6924
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/02/93  6:46p
Subj: Nite Owl 11                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

All,

       Hi!!  I've heard rumours about Nite Owl 11 being out .. any truth
       to that?  I'm looking for prices on the newest Nite Owl ( which ever
       that is ).  Especially from Canadians, but I'm happy to check out
       American offers to.

Regards,

Anish Acharya 
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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 6925
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 11/01/93  4:17p
Subj: Magazines 3 of 3                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Looking for a great price on magazine subscriptions? We have over 900
 > titles
 > to choose from, at or below normal subscription prices. To order, send
 > a check
 > or money order, indicating which titles you want, to:

 >                                     C.S.S.
 >                              1526 Ramblewood Ct.
 >                               Adrian, MI 49221

 >               Please allow 6 - 8 weeks before subscription begins.

 > ---------------------------------
 > ---------------------------------------------

 > ESSENCE                 10.80   STAR TREK THE NEXT GENERATION  17.33

Can you give me some info on what this mag. entails besides the name which is
obvious?

                                        Mike Harris

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 6926
  To: GARY POPKIN                              Date: 11/01/93  4:35p
Subj: XXX cd rom disk                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Anyone with a good XXX cd rom they are tired of please drop me a note
 > if
 > you'd like to trade for XXX "My Private Collection Volume #1"
 > It has all types of adult material and over 3900! Gif files as well as
 > a
 > couple hundred DL & GL files plus the utilities to run them. Over 675
 > megs!

 > Leave me the name, version, brief description & preferably a phone #.

 > Thanks,
 > Gary Popkin

Gary,
I have Storm III to trade, up to you. 302-674-3966 leave message on machine day
or night always on.

The stats are:

619 megs

415 megs of women gif 2870 files, some dupes
112 megs of men gifs 1075 files, no idea about dupes, I ignore these :-)
 29 megs of women Fli files 50 files
  2 megs of men Fli files only 2 files
 50 megs of Gl files 168 files I think only 1 or 2 males

Stats compiles using Xtgold 3.5

The cd uses an ansi menu and ansi must be in your config.sys, menu allows your
choice of men, women, gl and fli files. VGA only.

                                 Mike Harris

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 6927
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 11/01/93  4:46p
Subj: Busty Babes Review                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Apparently, the disk crash at The Hard Disc Cafe BBS wiped out my
 > original posting of my Busty Babes II review. I've re-posted it there
 > as  a single message, and here (Bit Bucket) as seven smaller posts.
 > Apologies  to those that don't like my reveiws for the redundancy and
 > to all sysops  for the extra traffic. Fidonet here has been a bit
 > erratic at times and  I'm just trying to make sure of things. As
 > always, I'd appreciate any  feedback anyone cares to give regarding
 > this (or any other of my)  review(s). I'm interested in improvinf them
 > in any way I can (e.g. are  they too detailed/too long? or need to
 > cover other aspects?) and to keep  them interesting and appropriate.
 > Cheers to all!

I pay to have your reviews via Fido and will continue to do so as long as you
will keep writing them. Thanks you have saved me some monies on bad cd and have
made up my mind on others. Keep up the great work.

                                  Mike Harris

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From: DAVID DOYLE                            Number: 6928
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/03/93  7:19a
Subj: Re: Swimwear or Lingerie                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Lee,
  This is David Doyle with Challenger BBS Orlando.
    Gimme a Hollar about this new Disk, also I have found that program
you were looking for a while back if you have not yet found it.


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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 6929
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/03/93 10:53p
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Greetings Folks, I have the Asian Ladies CD that I'd like to trade for
another adult CD, preferably Southern Beauties or American Girls (right
title ?).  I'll consider trades for other adult titles, prefer something
more "softcore" in nature, thanks.

,\\ark

 
... "One does not thank logic"  -- Sarek, stardate 3842.4.
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From: JAMES WALLACE                          Number: 6930
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/29/93  4:34p
Subj: NEC-CD-ROM                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NEC Multi-Spin For SALE!!!!
External SCSI Model 38
Less than 3 weeks old
Jim Wallace    (804) 589-6394

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From: MIKE ASTIN                             Number: 6931
  To: GARY HOFFERMAN                           Date: 11/03/93  9:57a
Subj: Cdrom resellers wanted                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > GH|o| We are looking for resellers and system builders who would be interes
     |o| marketing or bundling CDROM software. We are distributors and brokers
     |o| 400 titles (and growing). Export orders are our specialty.

I would also be interested:

Connect 96
ATTN: Mike Astin Jr.
3537 Ridgewood Dr.
Troutville VA, 24175

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6932
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/04/93  3:40a
Subj: Night Owl 10                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                A L L   N E W   N I G H T  O W L  10

* Over 5,100 NEW Files   * Over 647 Meg's    * No Dupes   * Virus Checked
* No Dupes To v9.0       * All Zipped Files  * New Viewer * and  More  !!
The  ALL NEW  "Night Owl 10 "  is here  and ready  for  delievery  !! All
programs on this cd were written or updated between Jan 1st and  Sept 1st
1993.  In fact, 100megs of the total files are from Sept 1993.In addition,
N.O has a mouse driven GUI interface for both DOS and Windows !!
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6933
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/04/93  3:40a
Subj: Monster Disk II                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

         A L L   N E W   M O N S T E R   M E D I A  93  I I

* Over 5,000 NEW Files   * Over 665 Meg's    * No Dupes   * Virus Checked
* 128 pg  Manual         * All Zipped Files  * New Viewer * and More !!

The  ALL NEW  "Monster Media 93 II"  is here  and ready  for  delievery !!
All programs on this cd were written or updated between May 1st and August
31st 1993.  It offers  multi-line  discriptions  as  well  as support  for
several BBS formats to make installation a breeze !!

                           PRICE - $30.00

This is a MUST CD for any BBS system that wants to offer their users only
the best in shareware.  Note: Monster Media is Updated three times a year.

ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 6934
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/04/93  3:40a
Subj: CDROM Systems                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00  Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare   - $379.00  NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $249.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $739.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1169.  -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms Bare Dr - $369.00  Texel Ext 245ms Bare  - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int 3021 Bare  Dr - $189.00  Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $389.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00  Mitsumi w/Sound Card  - $325.00 -PRPR
 Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50.  ALL ChestNuts CD's $12.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 6935
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 11/03/93 11:24p
Subj: win roms                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Boris
 > It shouldn't be much longer, maybe another week.....

 > Chat with you soon....

Keeping us hanging right. <g> looking forward to the announcment

..Red..

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From: EDGAR CATO                             Number: 6936
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/03/93 10:59p
Subj: NIX PIX SERIES                          Refer: NONE
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We want them all     REPLY>>>>>>>> netmail 1:106/7777

Edgar Cato
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 6937
  To: JOHN TUTTON                              Date: 11/04/93 12:39a
Subj: PROGRAMMER'S CD                         Refer: NONE
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* In a message originally to All, John Tutton said:
 JT> I am looking for a good CD for C programmers.  Something
 JT> with alot of source code and preferably some tutorials and
 JT> other resources.  I am a Computer Science major at Cal
 JT> State Univ Sacramento, and I would like a good source of
 JT> info to use in my programming classes.
 JT>   
 JT> Can anyone recommend a CD that they are pleased with,
 JT> and/or is anyone selling same.
 JT>   
 JT> If any vendors would like to send me their CD catalog, my
 JT> address is:
 JT>     John Tutton
 JT>     2467 57th Ave. Apt. A
 JT>     Sacramento, CA 95822
 JT>   
 JT> Thank you for your help.

 JT> --- TMail v1.31.5
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 JT> 448-2483 (1:203/52)
EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the sixth edition of
its C/C++ CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The October 1993 CD-ROM has
1046 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 125,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: TOM HUNT                               Number: 6938
  To: BILL PEARSON                             Date: 11/04/93 11:33a
Subj: Re: CD-ROMS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will take the chinon drive & cables from you, if you warranty no DOA
send COD to   Tom Hunt
              1114 Oxford Ridge Dr.
              Wake Forest,NC 27587
              919-556-8463
I have included my home phone in case you would like to call me for some
reason.
thanks
       --tom hunt--


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From: ED FEINS                               Number: 6939
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/02/93  8:30p
Subj: MICROSOFT CD-ROMS FOR SALE              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROMS For Sale:

(All in original packaging with registration cards)
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Microsoft DINOSAURS (Multimedia Windows w/video)                 $25
 Microsoft WORKS (Wordprocessor,spreadsheet, database, drawing &
    communications for Multimedia WIndows)                        $25
 Microsoft Musical Instruments (Multimedia Windows)               $25
 Microsoft Multimedia WORD for WINDOWS V2.0 including Microsoft
    Bookshelf                                                     $25

 Add $4 total shipping to any order.
 Buy all 4 for $95 INCLUDING shipping.
                   ^^^^^^^^^ 

Ed - 908-486-5068 (Voice, anytime)
 
If you call and the CD's are sold I won't return your call

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From: LANE PETERSON                          Number: 6940
  To: GEOFF FRANGOS                            Date: 11/04/93  2:57p
Subj: os2                                     Refer: NONE
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Do you know where I can get that OS2 CDROM? I have a sony cdrom drive, that's
supported by OS2 isn't it?



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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 6941
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/03/93  7:49p
Subj: sound effects library                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have sound effects library on cd.  This is selling for $19 in this echo, or
more.  My price is $10 + $2 for P&H.  If interested, reply or call.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6942
  To: TANDY WAY                                Date: 11/04/93  1:46a
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
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TW>does anyone have any pro or con to say about starvector? I hear they are
TW>good guys to deal with and if there is a problem they take care of it no
TW>squack.

Who keeps putting you guys up to this??  I don't have any complaints, it's
just that I never see anyone asking the crowd about Boris, Doug, Jim, or
any of the other dealers.  8)

Later,

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6943
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 11/04/93  1:46a
Subj: BUSTY BABES 3                           Refer: NONE
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DC> GS> WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE BB 3.  DOES ANYONE HAVE IT AND HOW MUCH?

DC>The latest version is Release 2.0 volume 1.  We have it in stock for $26.95

Nope.  Try VOLUME 2, RELEASE 1.  Volume 1, Release 2 has been out of
circulation for quite awhile now.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6944
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 11/04/93  1:46a
Subj: New Busty Babes 2.0                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris' ad:

BO>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ B U S T Y  B A B E S  # 2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

BO>      All NEW Busty Babes II is in stock ready for delievery !!

BO>                         P R I C E - $30.00

Your ad:

DC>DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
DC>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ B U S T Y  B A B E S  # 2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

DC>      All NEW Busty Babes II is in stock ready for delievery !!
                                                      ^^^^^^^^^
                            P R I C E - $26.95

Doug,

A piece of advice:  When copying someone else's ad, try to correct the
misspelled words.  That way you might actually fool 2 or 3 people into
thinking you created the ad all by yourself.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6945
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/04/93  1:46a
Subj: CD PRICES 1/3                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 on the CD's we carry.  Don't be shy, give us a try!  If you'd like to have
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 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..49.00
 20th Century Video Almanac....32.00    Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00
 5-Star Premium Windows........27.00    Microsoft Golf MPC (New!).....48.50
 7th Guest.....................39.00    Microsoft Musical Instruments.57.00
 9-Digit Zip Code Guide (New!).32.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........49.00
 9000 Sounds (New!)............25.00    Middle East Diary.............35.00
 Action Traveler (New!)........32.00    MIDI Music Shop...............26.50
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...25.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Monarch Notes.................48.00
 American Business Phonebk 91..17.00    Money, Money, Money!..........28.00
 American Business Phonebk 92..19.00    Monster Media 93 vol 2 (New!).29.00
 American Business Phonebk 93..25.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Aminet Amiga..................15.00    Mother of All Clipart.........15.00
 Anecdotes 1...................14.50    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Anecdotes 2...................14.50    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....18.00
 Anecdotes 3...................14.50    National Geographic Mammals...25.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......19.00    National Parks................24.50
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....25.50    Newsweek Interactive (New!)...26.50
 Arizona Images (New!).........25.00    Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Audubon's Birds...............23.00    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    Night Owl 8.0.................24.00
 Battle Chess..................25.00    Night Owl 9.0.................25.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 10.0 (In Stock!)....29.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........25.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Beyond the Wall of Stars......24.50    Night Owl Games (New!)........29.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl Graphics (New!).....29.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    North American Fax Book.......32.50
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Original Shareware............10.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....13.00    OS/2Box (In Stock!)...........29.00
 Business Master...............20.00    Our Solar System..............13.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....27.00
 California Collection.........17.00    PC-SIG 12.....................24.00
 Canadian Shareware (New!).....19.00    PC-SIG 13 (Pre-orders)........33.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    PC-SIG Windows (New!).........19.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC Gameroom...................24.00
 CD Powerbox ($6 w/ any order).15.00    PC Karaoke w/ Microphone......68.00
 CD Winbox 1.01................25.00    Pentomino.....................23.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Peter and the Wolf............25.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Phoenix 3.0 ($6 w/ any order).10.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phoenix 4.0 (New!)............19.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phonedisc USA.................69.00
 Clipart Galore................25.00    Pier 2........................24.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 3 (In Stock!)............39.00
 Clipart Heaven................25.00    Pier 2/3 Pak..................49.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00    Pixel Garden..................34.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Composer Quest................33.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0.............15.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency....89.00    Precision Mapping.............74.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....64.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....64.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........29.00
 Computer Reference Library....13.00    Project Gutenberg (New!)......22.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6946
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/04/93  1:46a
Subj: CD PRICES 2/3                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
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 Conan the Cimmerian...........29.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak.......... 98.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....34.50    ProPhone 1993 Business........29.00
 Cookbook Heaven...............23.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Cybergenic Ranger (New!)......27.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Dagger of Amon Ra.............34.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........35.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Publisher's Powerhouse (New!).29.00
 Day of the Tentacle (New!)....44.50    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Reader's Library..............26.50
 Desert Storm..................33.50    Reel Clips....................29.00
 Desktop Bookshop..............22.50    Reference Library.............24.50
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...37.00
 Dictionary of Living World....35.50    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............33.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
 Dinosaurs!....................34.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
 Dr. Games (New!)..............20.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Dr. Music (New!)..............20.00    Shareware 1993 vol 2 (New!)...20.00
 Dr. Shareware (New!)..........20.00    Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......51.00
 Dr. Windows (New!)............20.00    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..42.00
 DTPro.........................28.50    Shareware Online 1............25.00
 Ecoquest......................29.50    Shareware Online 2 (New!).....29.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Overload............13.00
 Electronic Cookbook (New!)....29.00    Shareware Studio 1............19.00
 Electronic Home Library.......29.00    Shareware Studio 2............23.00
 Empire Clipart................19.50    Shareware Studio 3 (New!).....25.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.00
 European Monarchs.............35.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...53.00
 Family Doctor.................26.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...55.00
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......26.50    Sights & Sounds...............24.00
 Firearms Reference (New!).....25.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    Sleeping Beauty (New!)........25.00
 Font Master 2.................28.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Shareware 1...........19.00
 Fractunes (New!)..............30.00    So Much Shareware 2...........23.00
 Fresh Arte....................34.00    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....25.00
 Funny (New!)..................33.00    So Much Space (New!)..........24.00
 Game Arena (New!).............13.00    Software Vault 1..............19.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....22.00
 Game Pack 2...................25.00    Software Vault Gold (New!)....25.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Sound Effects Library.........19.00
 Games Collection (Pre-orders).26.00    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Gameware Collection...........24.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.00    Soundware Collection..........24.00
 Gardening (New!)..............13.00    SoundWAV......................25.00
 GIF Galaxy (New!).............24.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 GIF's Galore (G-Rated)........16.50    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Giga Games (New!).............23.00    Space Quest IV................23.00
 Global Explorer...............85.00    Space Shuttle (New!)..........25.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Space Time and Art (New!).....34.50
 Grammy Awards.................36.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........29.50
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Stellar 7.....................19.50
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Straight from Heaven (New!)...19.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

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 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6947
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/04/93  1:46a
Subj: CD PRICES 3/3                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 Guinness Disc of Records 92...23.00    Street Atlas USA v2 (New!)....94.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 93...29.00    STW Illustrated Encyclopedia..34.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    STW Multimedia Encyclopedia...44.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    STW MPC Encyclopedia..........45.50
 Hamware 1993..................23.00    Super Games For Windows.......10.00
 Health & Medical Directory....27.50    Talking Jungle Safari.........35.50
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........35.50
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Technotools...................13.00
 Home Designer (New!)..........32.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..21.00
 Home/Business Legal Guide.....13.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 House of Games................18.50    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Timetable of Business/Politic.26.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Interactive Story Time 3......38.00    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.00
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Total Baseball 1992...........25.00
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....29.00    Total Baseball 1993...........28.50
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........39.00    Total Heart (New!)............49.00
 Jets & Props..................28.50    Trump Castle..................28.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00    U.S./World Atlas 3.0..........23.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............39.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 King's Quest V................20.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 King's Quest VI (Retail Box)..39.00    U.S. Wars: Civil War..........34.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........19.00    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 La Colleccion (Spanish S/W)...24.50    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............34.00
 Lan Master (New!).............25.00    U.S. Wars: WWII...............34.00
 Languages of the World........39.00    USA Today: The 90's (New!)....36.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00    VGA Spectrum 1................13.00
 Learning Heaven (New!)........19.00    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    Visions of Saturn.............23.00
 Libris Britannia..............42.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Linux (New!)..................29.00    Wildcat Gold..................27.50
 Loom..........................19.00    Win Platinum (New!)...........24.00
 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...35.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Mac Shareware (New!)..........22.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........34.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Windows Collection (New!).....26.00
 Mad Dog McCree (New!).........39.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Majestic Places...............38.50    World Atlas MPC...............26.50
 Manhole.......................34.50    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mantis........................24.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    World Traveler................13.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World View....................24.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............27.00    World Vision 3-Pak............39.00
 Mega Clipart..................27.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf 1992 MPC..39.00    X11R5/GNU.....................24.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
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 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6948
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/04/93  1:46a
Subj: "SOFT" ADULT CD'S                       Refer: NONE
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 **************************************************************************
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                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
 Amateur Models (New!).........34.00    High Volume Nudes (New!)......36.50
 American Girls (New!).........34.00    L.A. Strippers (Movie)........49.00
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......29.00    Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......48.00    Photo Gallery (New!)..........34.00
 Digital Dreams................28.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......33.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Girls of Mardi Gras (New!)....43.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 6949
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/04/93 12:48p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

Have Windows 93 and CICA Microsoft Windows for sale $17 each or 2 for $30

286 mother board with 1 meg drams, worked when took it out, $20.
512-939-9822
Pat

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From: ED WILLIAMS                            Number: 6950
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/03/93 12:29p
Subj: Phillips CD- ROM                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello to all!

  I have the phillips CD-Rom drives New in the Box. SCSI units 350mm
  These come with 2 caddy's rails, DOCS ect.
  internal unit 5 1/4 half height...  No Headphone Jack, Perfect for BBS
use, Viewing scans ect....  These drives are Network aware!
 Your price is 149.99 per drive..
   90 Day D.O.A. Waarany
 Contact Ed Williams  9 to 5  508-777-4666
after 5  617-596-2480


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From: RODNEY HUMPHREY                        Number: 6951
  To: TANDY WAY                                Date: 11/03/93  6:37a
Subj: Starvector!                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike has always been Super for me too.. BUT:  Since I run an RBBS board,
some of the "bbs ready" software does not have an FMS.DIR (which is rbbs
's format for listing files), and since there are more RBBS boards around
then any other, I thought that kind of strange....SO when I get a new
disk from him (have bought 6) I have to spend a couple of hours manipulating
the listings that they do have on the disk in order to make it compatible
with my bbs!...

I realize its not MIKE's fault, but when it says "bbs ready" it should
be "rbbs-pc" ready as well as the other 4 or 5 formats they already have
on the disk!

Rod.

   
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From: BRIAN ELFERT                           Number: 6952
  To: STEVE TOTZKE                             Date: 11/04/93  7:37a
Subj: Cheap CD-ROM drives wante               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hi all!  I'm looking for some CD-ROM drives that somebody is willing
-> for cheap.  These drives must be SCSI (or must be able to hook more t
-> up to the same controller), they DO NOT have to be fast (they are goi
-> used strictly on a BBS), and if possibly, they have to be external dr
-> anybody has anything like that, please let me know.  Thanks in advanc

I am selling 6 external SCSI CD-ROM drives for $300 each.  These are
Chinon 435 external drives.  Each drive includes a $32 custom cable for
hooking the six drives together.  Cheapest mail-order for this drive
without cable was $404 in October Computer Shopper.

Brian


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From: VICTOR LOBERGER                        Number: 6953
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/04/93  6:03p
Subj: So Much Shareware 1 Want                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     Anyone have a copy of SO MUCH SHAREWARE 1 for sale.  I'd like to 
complete my "library" of the SO MUCH series.  Please leave a message to 
me with the best way to contact you.  Thanks!

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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 6954
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/04/93  1:18p
Subj: $25 quote in question                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike -

Here's the quote you said you didn't see with regard to the competitive
pricing ($5 off the lowest price of NightOwl).  Note that while he INITIALLY
quoted a $29 dollar price during the next two days he was quoting a $25
price.  I'm sure others here (including Kevin) can attest to the fact these
messages were indeed posted.

Michael

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Which One? S

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Enter text to select by: kevin plummer
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Msg#:20167 *CDRom_Sale*
10/05/93 05:18:00
From: KEVIN PLUMMER
  To: RANDY NEUNER
Subj: RE: NO10 VS PIER 3
On 03 Oct 93  06:29:00, I heard Randy Neuner shout to All:

RN> I am ready to purchase a new cd disc for my bbs.  In anyone's RN> opinion,
which would have newer files or which do you feel
RN> is the better choice?  I have seen NO10 advertised for a special RN> price
of $39.00.  Is this a fair price?  Thanks for any comments.

Night Owl 10 is $29.00 from Free Spirit...  1-800-638-5757

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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 6955
  To: ERIC LUZUM                               Date: 11/03/93 10:19p
Subj: Re: busty babes 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ERIC,
ABOUT $100-125.
GREG

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From: ROBERT KUMMER                          Number: 6956
  To: DON NELSON                               Date: 11/05/93 10:29a
Subj: Re: Sell or Trade CD's                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Don Nelson to Robert Kummer <=-

 RK>                        ADULT TITLES
 RK> Seedy Rom 2,3,4,5,6           $20 ea. => Sale pending on #6
 RK> Seventh Heaven                $25
 RK> Storm III                     $20 => Sale pending
 RK> After Dark                 Best offer
 RK> XXX Extreme                Best offer => Sale pending

 DN> Did you recieve my previous offer?

 DN> The offer was: 
 DN> Seedy Rom 2,3,4,5,6
 DN> Seventh Heaven
 DN> Storm

 DN> for 4 megs of 70nS simms.

 DN> However, I never heard back from you.  Since sale is pending some of
 DN> these disks, we may be able work something out.  Let me know if you
 DN> are interested.  What is the After Dark CD?

 DN> I'm holding onto the SIMMs until I hear from you.

 DN> Thanks,

    Hello Don, yes I got your offer and tried to send a private message
    to you only to find out (just today) that the hub in my area will
    not allow private mail to be sent out from his board unless I'm a
    subscriber. The last few days he's been having trouble with the
    fido feed so I have been calling this board and getting messages
    a day or two sooner, anyhow, let's make a deal here. I'll offer
    you Seedy Rom 2,3,4 & 5, Seventh Heaven and your choise of either
    Storm III or After Dark <== This CD has all Adult Gif's, for 4(good) 
    1x9 70ns Simms. And I'll ship CD's to you, you ship Simms to me.
    I think this is a fair deal, what do you think. Please reply or
    call 517-631-5105. Sorry about the delay.

       Robert.


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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 6957
  To: LARRY HUEGELE                            Date: 11/05/93  1:47p
Subj: Re: Wanter CD-ROM Titles                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LH.> Excuse my stupidity, but what is an OEM version?
 
To my knowledge there is the full version with everything in T7G but the OEM
version which is bundled with some MM kits doesn't have the video.  That's as
much as I know, sorry.....
Jason

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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 6958
  To: BLAKE BARR                               Date: 11/05/93  1:55p
Subj: Re: 7th Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well, I do have it, but without the box, can't find that.  Got the CD's, both
manuals, the video, and even the box sleeve, but can't find the dang box. 
Well, let me know if you still want it, and you can call a friend, Sam, at
(615)877-7703 to arrange details, or leave mail here.

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From: MIKE STEFFEN                           Number: 6959
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/05/93  6:27a
Subj: Adult CD review wanted                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Any one purchased the adult CD's Deep Throat or Debbie does Dallas?  Are these
actually the movies?  Or a bunch of scans?
And how about L.A. Strippers? It says in some listings that this is an
interactive title.
Any information would be appreciated!

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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 6960
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/06/93 12:24a
Subj: Shareware cd-roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 On 10-31-93 MIKE SHANNON wrote to ANDREW JONES... 
 
 MS> AJ>getting a shareware CD or two (BBSing is getting to be too much for 
 MS> my 
 MS> AJ>poor phone bill). I was wondering if anyone could recommend a title 
 MS> and 
 MS> AJ>from where I may obtain it (also, price). 
 MS> AJ>Here is what I'm looking for: 
 MS> AJ>  Something of between 400 and 650 meg 
 MS> AJ>  Something with lots of different types of files: clipart, GIFS, 
 MS> AJ>utilities, Games, Sound files, etc. 
 MS> AJ>  And something whose files are easily accesible through DOS (for 
 MS> AJ>someone who is NOT using it for a BBS) 
 MS>  
 MS> I recommend the Pier series.  Pier 3 has the most recent files 
 MS> available, 
 MS> a TRUE graphic user interface, complete and accurate file listings for 
 MS> BBS, and 98% of the files are dated later than April, 1993.  In stock 
 MS> at 
 MS> $39, and we have a special on right now where you can get Pier 2 for 
 MS> free 
 MS> with the Pier 3 purchase.  Pier 2 has around 75% 1993 file dates, with 
 MS> the remainder 1992, and less than 1% duplication to Pier 3.  Great 
 MS> combo 
 MS> for 39 bucks. 
 MS>  
 MS> Later, 
 MS> .\\ike 
 MS>  
Ya, but... have you guys checked out the PsL Monthly Shareware CD??? Now, 
it's great!! It's got everything you're looking for...and it's only $30. 
or if you subscribe $20. a month!!!!  Fantastic.... :-) 
 
Regards.... 
 
<<Whoever said money can't buy hapiness, doesn't know where to shop!>> 
 
 
 
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From: KEVIN PIERCE                           Number: 6961
  To: VENDORS, RE-SELLERS                      Date: 11/05/93  8:27a
Subj: adult cd-roms                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     can anyone post the current list of the above titles available   
     and their going prices? i purchased f.a.o.3 last year and haven't
     upgraded since (my users have about worn the thing out, so i need
     a new collection). i remember one that was advertised as having no
     bbs ads included in the images. is it still around?

     kp

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From: DOUGLAS BELL                           Number: 6962
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/05/93  2:48p
Subj: - Recordable CD-ROM $3150               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Recorder - Just purchased, used 1 week .. Don't need ..

 External, SCSI-2, Ricoh Mechanism, 1.2mb buffer, Caddy Drive
 Comes with all software/drivers .. (1) 74m Recordable CD-ROM
 Handles: CD(ROM), CD-A, CD-I, CD-X/A, Multi-session, Photo-CD

 $3150 + s/h

Teac 128mb Removable Optical Drive

 Internal, 3.5" HH,
 42ms access time, SCSI I or SCSI II, 1400kb throughput.
 This is a new drive, never used.  Includes one Verbatim 128M
 disk and mount kit.  Must have corel SCSI or similar drivers

 $800 + s/h

Adaptec AHA-1522 SCSI I/II 16bit H/F Controller

 $50 (bundled with either of the above)

Douglas Bell - 303-467-1294


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From: BRIAN KURKOWSKI                        Number: 6963
  To: JOHN TUTTON                              Date: 11/04/93  4:44a
Subj: Re: PROGRAMMER'S MEGAPAK: $29           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well John, sorta. I just picked up the Mega Pack to look through. I program in
C++ using the Borland 3.1 compiler, limited support there. Many operating
systems and languages are supported. If you wanted an extremely varied resource
with SOMETHING for just about any programming occasion, go for it. If you are
looking for a couple of hundred meg of C source, don't bother. The C Users
Group library is about the same recommendation. Mostly older stuff with little
support for C++, a lot of CP/M "C" code for say, oh about the the Turbo C 2.0
era. As I understand it, the Source Code Disk is more along the lines of what
you want, I have not actually seen it yet, I ordered it, but there was a mix up
and it did not make it with the last shipment. I would appreciate it if anyone
who has actually seen it would comment. I will order it the next time I have
the new software itch <GR>. If any one knows of a disk with a lot of C++
support, please speak up. BTW, avoid Codebase 5.0 like the plaque, it is not
even remotely stable, stick with 4.5 for a while. My programming staff has
gotten a 5.0 patch about every 10 days since its initial release a few month
ago.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 6964
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 11/05/93  7:05a
Subj: BUSTY BABES REVIEW                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I really appreciate the sypport and encouragement, Michael. The reviews will
continue; I have recently made arrangements with Joe Rinehart along those
lines. There should be a couple more coming out in a couple of weeks. Cheers!

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 6965
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/04/93  5:32p
Subj: CDROM Drive $145                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For Sale:

Mitsumi LU005-S CD-ROM drive.

        350ms access time,
        150-175k/sec transfer rate,
        Meets MPC multi-media specifications,
        B type serial number indicates Kodak Photo-CD compatability,
        Internal half-height,
        Doesn't require caddies for the discs,
        Controller card w/stereo outputs
          (5 IRQs and 3 DMAs for maximum flexibility),
        Drive cable,
        Software drivers on 5.25" and 3.5" floppy disks,
        4 pin audio cable for soundcard connection
          (currently configured for Soundblaster),
        Installation manual,
        Original carton and packing material,

        All in as-new condition!   $145.

Reply in this place, netmail/e-mail, or voice 415-647-2881.

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From: MIKE HARVEY                            Number: 6966
  To: BRETT PARKER                             Date: 11/02/93 11:43a
Subj: Cdrom resellers wanted                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > CyberCat Computers
 > 360 Blackburn
 > Mt Vernon, WA. 98273
 > Attn: Brett
 > >   |o| marketing or bundling CDROM software. We are distributors and
 > >   |o| 400 titles (and growing). Export orders are our specialty.

i am interested BUT IF I START SAYING

MH

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6967
  To: BRIAN ELFERT                             Date: 10/29/93  2:11p
Subj: HOT PIX                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>-> 'Giffy Gold', Busty Babes Vol II, and Amateur Models

>So these three discs have gotten permission to use every picture on their
>discs?

Giffy Gold in particular had the photography done by contract - they OWN the
pictures on their disc.

 I don't know about the other two Lee mentioned offhand, but I SUSPECT it's a
similar case.

 The pictures on "Lovely Ladies II" are also legally there, but are restricted
from FUTHER distribution....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6968
  To: DAVID NGHIEM                             Date: 10/29/93  2:14p
Subj: ADULT CD-ROM SITUATION                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>1.   Is selling Adult CD-ROMs illegal?

Depends on your locality - it really should NOT be illegal to sell an Adult
CD-ROM to an adult, but some localities say it IS.

>3.   Are there any Adult CD-ROMs that are licensed specifically
>     for use on a BBS for a sysop?

Giffy Gold is specifically licenced that way - the folks that put it out RUN a
pair of BBSs in the San Diego area (The General, and I forget the name of the
other one offhand - The General is a FidoNet 1:202 system).

 "Swimware 1993" is specifically licensed for BBS usage, but there appear to be
MAJOR copyright problems with many to all of the scans on that disc - I've seen
some of the "originals" in places like Sports Illustrated, Playboy, etc.


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6969
  To: KAWAI WONG                               Date: 10/29/93  2:18p
Subj: SWIMWEAR CD NEEDED!!!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>        I am looking for a Swimwear CD called Swimwear 1993 for my BBS. I have
>called both Boris and Groupware but neither one has it.

I have one in stock (and can get more) - see my recent ads in CDROM_SALE or
CFORSALE for more details.

I would be VERY carefull putting this on a BBS - some of the scans to MY
knowlage appear to be potential Copyright violations. Nice disc otherwise - I
plan to add a copy to my personal collection....


 * OLX 2.1 TD * I refuse to take advantage of your youth and inexperiance

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6970
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 10/29/93  2:19p
Subj: A PUBLIC APPEAL                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>But when a moderator can cut your feed because he doesn't like the color of
>your eyes (had one tell me that), then there needs to be some rules set on
what
>a moderator's limits are.

There are - if you don't like a Moderator, you are free to "vote with your
feet" and start your OWN echo.

 There are a BUNCH of us that left TECH in favor of DR_DEBUG over the Gifford
mess, for example....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6971
  To: JIM COYLE                                Date: 10/29/93  2:22p
Subj: CD-ROM GOOD DEAL!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Well, I think I saw it new for $169

350ms Mitsumi LU005 is widely available at that price - lowest I've seen them
new to date is $149 at a Computer show in Detroit last Saturday....


 * OLX 2.1 TD * God is an Iron....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6972
  To: DAVE BAKKER                              Date: 10/29/93  3:25p
Subj: LOOKING FOR A CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I'm looking for a plant indentification cd.

"Plant Doctor" is about the closest thing I know of to what your are looking
for, at this time.


 * OLX 2.1 TD * Virginity IS a cureable condition....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6973
  To: ED JUNE                                  Date: 11/01/93 10:21a
Subj: CD ROM LIST                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>BF>  59 Microsoft Bookshelf '93 (MPC)

>I'd like to know more of this one. Is this a regular dos FAT disk?

Like most of the other titles I carry, it's a CD-ROM ISO-9660 format.

>I recently
>purchased one used, can't see the first file one it. I get an error that says,
>no sector found, it spins forever, non-stop.

Sounds like you got sold a bad or damaged copy.

>Does this REQUIRE MSCDEX.EXE, and use some arcane format?

It requires MSCDEX or functional equivilent - I don't use OS/2, so I can't be
more specific.


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6974
  To: KIMBLE RIGNEY                            Date: 11/01/93 10:45a
Subj: BBS DEFENSE FUND                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I am a supporter of the First Amendment, and I will defend it even  against
the
>onslaughts on it by those who try to put garbage peddlers  out of business.
But
>DON'T try my patience with such obscene hubris as  that of comparing this
fight
>with that against slavery and segregation.  That fight involved the
>preservation of human dignity.

Both involved the defence of FREEDOM against various non-Freedom attitudes.
Saying that "XXX stuff is wrong" is censorship, pure and simple.

>I see this as rather like the ACLU's defense of the Klan. You despise  it; you
>don't identify with it; but you defend it for the sake of the  Constitution.

Some vague similarities, but just as many differences. XXX does not hurt folks
(as has been shown by EVERY study of the question except that Meese Commisions
joke of a report), while the Klan advocates a return to slavery or the outright
destruction of a race.

 If it wasn't for the Puritan influence on this country, XXX would not be a hot
potato at all....


 * SLMR 2.1a * 666-xxxx : Prefix of the Beast

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 6975
  To: JOHN RICKER                              Date: 11/02/93  5:12a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR> What type of Computer things are ya looking for, as i might have
JR> something and maybe we could come up with a trade of some type.
JR> 
JR> John

Nothing in particular...  What do you have ????


                   .....|<evin

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 6976
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 11/02/93  5:13a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GS> KEVIN,
GS> I DON'T HAVE MUCH IN THE WAY OF COMPUTER EQUIPMENT.  ONLY A 2400 BAUD INTER
GS> MODEM.  HOW MUCH MONEY?
GS> GREG
GS> 

Well, How about the modem, and $50.00 ??

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From: LORI SMITH                             Number: 6977
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 11/02/93 12:05a
Subj: Cd Reviews                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ*>The Hard Disc Cafe where I post my reviews recently had a HDD crash and
BJ*>about two weeks worth of files were lost. If you tried to FREQ or D/L  some

        Sorry to hear about that... hope it wasn't a "major" crash...

BJ*>The HDD crash came about the time I posted the review of Busty Babes  Volum
BJ*>II. Would someone please tell me if they've seen that review so  I'll know
BJ*>it got out OK? Thanks.

        I do not remember seeing a review for that CD..
could you repost it please?
                                +Lori+

 * OLX 2.1 * "Virgins R Us" is closed due to lack of personnel!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6978
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/02/93  2:09p
Subj: ADULT NOVEMBER TITLES                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>       "WE DON'T CARE ABOUT MAKING MONEY - WE JUST LOVE TO SELL CD'S!"

Should I tell Don you're "borrowing" his line?

 8-)

>Ecstasy                              a   40.00 Mystic of the Orient
>            a   41.60 Legends of Porn vol. 2                       a   44.80
My
>First Time                                a   44.80 Nightwatch
>                 a   44.80 Best of Vivid                                a
>46.40 House of Sleeping Beauties                   a   46.40 Kama Sutra

Your formatting needs some work....


 * SLMR 2.1a * I don't do Mornings OR Windoze....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6979
  To: PHILIP POLSTRA                           Date: 11/02/93  2:12p
Subj: A PUBLIC APPEAL                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I have yet to see a "nasty" moderator on FidoNet (or FlyNet).

Lucky you - though they DO tend to be rare and their echoes tend to die fairly
quickly....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6980
  To: PHILLIP DAMPIER                          Date: 11/02/93  3:07p
Subj: A PUBLIC APPEAL                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I don't know where you read this, but this policy is completely unenforcable.
>Fidonet presently has NO ratified echomail policy except the Backbone
>Operations Procedure.

BOP has never been adopted by FidoNet as a whole, even back when it was
"EchoPol 1"....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Flying: art of throwing yourself at ground and missing

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 6981
  To: CHARLES STRUSZ                           Date: 11/02/93  3:08p
Subj: CUSTOM LOW QUANTITY CD RO               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>                         -------------
>HEY SYSOP!         ----- ONE OF CD'S ! -----       HEY SYSOP!
>                         -------------

Shouldn't that be "One Off CD's"?


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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 6982
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/04/93 11:47p
Subj: $7.25 CD-Rom disc(s)                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                  "NEW & IMPROVED USER-FRIENDLY PRICE LIST!"
       "WE DON'T CARE ABOUT MAKING MONEY - WE JUST LOVE TO SELL CD'S!"
        Over 750 disc titles & hardware products are now available.
To order, contact:
                                 Joe Rinehart
                              5400 Lakewood Road
                           Ravenna, Ohio 44266-9565
  Voice: (216) 296-9831  24 hours
  Voice: (216) 296-1633 6pm-midnight (EST)
  Voice/Messages/Fax: (216) 297-1332 24 hours
  Toll-Free (in Ohio Only) 1-800-521-2881 6pm - midnight (EST)
  Data/Fax (216) 296-4446 ZyXel 16.8 v.42bis The Blue Parrot RBBS 24HRS
  FidoNet: 1:157/479
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  RBBSNet: 8:965/13
  WWIVNet: 2@2659
  CD CATALOG FREQ:  CDLIST.ZIP or majic name CDLIST
  COMPLETE CATALOG FREQ:  PARROT.ZIP (contains all products new & used)

SHIPPING TERMS:  Purchaser pays shipping!  $5.00 C.O.D.Charge, 2 lbs or less
for $2.90 second day U.S.P.S. Priority Mail.  $1.00 Handling fee on orders
under $50.00.  International orders shipped acccording to U.S.Customs
regulations.

MISC. INFORMATION:
Make checks payable to:  Carl Knorr or Joe Rinehart
10% discount for verified sysops or resale orders over $250!
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CD Caddies                                  mi    5.00  with disc order 4.50
PC Sig 7                                    sh    7.25
PC Sig 9                                    sh    7.25
Phoenix 3.0                                 sh    8.70
Ham Radio                                   sh   10.88
Original Shareware l992                     sh   10.88
Shareware Overload                          sh   10.88
Windoware                                   sh   10.88
Windows Plus                                sh   10.88
Software Vault I                            sh   11.60
The California Collection                   sh   11.60
VGA Spectrum I                              sh   11.60
Wizpack                                     sh   11.60
1001 Utilities                              sh   13.05
America's Premier Shareware                 sh   13.05
CICA Microsoft windows                      sh   13.05
QRZ Ham Radio                               sh   13.05
Shareware Heaven                            sh   13.05
Software Vault II                           sh   13.05
Super CD II                                 sh   13.05
Remstar Vol. I                              sh   14.50
Shareware Studio II                         sh   14.50
VGA Spectrum II                             sh   14.50
Adventures in Heaven                        sh   15.95
Learning Heaven                             sh   15.95
Phoenix Rom 4.0                             sh   15.95
Doctor of Shareware                         sh   17.40
Doctor of Windows                           sh   17.40
Games Bonanza + Anti virus (1993)           sh   17.40
Hamware 1993                                sh   17.40
Info MAC shareware for Macintosh            sh   17.40
Mega CD rom 1                               sh   17.40
Night Owl 4.1                               sh   17.40
Night Owl 4.2                               sh   17.40
PC Sig World of Windows                     sh   17.40
Power Pak Gold                              sh   17.40
Shareware Gold II                           sh   17.40
Shareware Online I                          sh   17.40
Shareware Online Volume 2                   sh   17.40
Shareware Tiger                             sh   17.40
Straight from Heaven                        sh   17.40
Top 2000+ Shareware                         sh   17.40
Ultimate Shareware Collection               sh   17.40
Up All Night                                sh   17.40
Windows Master                              sh   17.40
Windows Shareware Gold Vol 3                sh   17.40
Business Tools                              sh   18.85
Media Library Mega Media 1                  sh   18.85
Media Library Mega Media 2                  sh   18.85
Media Library-- Mega Media 3                sh   18.85
DataBase Made Easy                          sh   20.30
ASP Advantage (ASP Shareware)               sh   20.30  (Released 10/18/93)
All American Shareware Galore               sh   21.75
Doctor of Fun Pack                          sh   21.75
Hacker Chronicles                           sh   21.75
PC Sig 12                                   sh   21.75
Phoenix Phun & Games                        sh   21.75
Shareware 1993 September                    sh   21.75
So Much Shareware 2                         sh   21.75
So Much Shareware 3                         sh   21.75
Ultimate Shareware Collection 2             sh   21.75
Windows 1993                                sh   21.75
MS-Dos Explorer-- Volume 3                  sh   23.20
Night Owl 9                                 sh   24.65
Night Owl Graphics ROM                      sh   24.65
Resource Library Language Operation         sh   24.65
Winware #3                                  sh   24.65
Monster Media 93                            sh   26.10
Shareware Avalanche                         sh   26.10
Shareware Explorer WINDOWS version          sh   26.10
Gigabyte Gold                               sh   27.55
Mega A/V 1                                  sh   27.55
Mega CD rom 2                               sh   27.55
Mega WIN/OS2                                sh   27.55
Shareware Perlen 2                          sh   27.55
Amsoft World of Ham Radio Vol. II           sh   31.90
RBBS in a Box                               sh   31.90
Night Owl 10                                sh   32.63
Lion Share                                  sh   36.25
Shareware Extravaganza                      sh   40.60
Wildcat Gold                                sh   42.05
World Vision                                sh   42.05
Shareware Magic                             sh   43.50
Libris Britannia                            sh   47.85
Shareware Explorer Quad Vers/4 ROMS         sh   50.00
Hamcall - April 1993                        sh   53.00
Windows Paradise                            sh   75.00

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 6983
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/04/93 11:52p
Subj: +++Catalog offer - Free                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> CD-ROM DRIVE OWNERS, or even if you don't own one, we have them....

    We just completed our November Issue of our CDLIST!  If you'd like a
printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
>   If you are a sysop & wish us to freq a copy at our expense, just ask!
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 750 cd-rom disc titles available)
FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176 - WWIVNet 2@2659
Joe Rinehart                   Voice: (216) 296-9831
P.O. Box 27                    Data/fax: (216) 296-GIGO(4446) ZyXEL 16.8
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001          >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<


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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 6984
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 11/05/93 10:00p
Subj: Busty babes volume <cont>               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DV>Directory               Total Bytes       Number of Files

DV>ZIPSTORY..................3,152,836.............210

DV>TOTAL BYTES Text Stories..3,152,836
DV>(not incl. Unzipped Text Stories)
DV>TOTAL STORIES...................................210
DV>(not incl. Unzipped Text Stories)

DV>NOTE:   The Unzipped Text Stories are the same that appear
DV>        in the Zipstory directory except they are not
DV>        compressed.

Close.  No cigar, though.

There are a number of files in each of the "story" directories that do NOT
appear in the other.  Most do, but not all are "the same."  When burst, the
ZIPs yield 303 files, not including the 42 R & E advertisements, and the 192
other files which were dupes of these.  Of the 303, 10 were BAT or Menu or
other files to enable viewing the stories.  The directory of the ZIPs shows 212
files, and there are 221 in the unzipped one.

234 R & E ads, at about 1.5K each, equals a lot of wasted space.  A couple of
the ZIPs had *3* R & E ads, and more than a few had 2.  Maybe you're working on
commission or something?

I was just a bit put off by finding some files missing (in this collection),
but have since found them on other discs in my own (rather large, but far from
complete) collection.  i.e. there are story1, story2 and story4, for example,
with story3 not found.  Don't hold me to these particular numbers, I'm speaking
generically.  Oh, one such example is DAX1, 4, 5 & 6.  No DAX2 or 3.  A person
who gets this disc as his one-and-only might be a bit more upset than I am over
this.

I bought it, and I do NOT regret it.

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * Who makes up these dumb taglines anyhow?


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From: ART MARKO                              Number: 6985
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/04/93  2:47a
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE - CHEAP!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CODES For Sale
Just Grandma & Me......................$23.00
Kings Quest V..........................$19.00
Carmen San Diego Deluxe................$20.00
MacMillan Dictionary For Children......$20.00
Cinemania '92..........................$19.00
CorelDraw 3.0AB........................$38.00

Adult - $22.00 each
Busty Babes (Vol 1., vers. 3)
My Private Collection Vol. 1
My Private Collection Vol. 2
Storm 1
PC-PIX 1
Ecstacy Hot Pics

Add 2.90 for shipping up to 5 disks

Trades considered...
Don't E-mail unless you must...better,
call days, 908-545-3004

Art Marko
2 Oak St.
New Brunswick NJ
08901
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From: VAUGHN DUMAS                           Number: 6986
  To: AULTON WHITE                             Date: 11/04/93  7:07a
Subj: Adult CDs for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Aulton
Do you take credit cards at all or would you prefer a checque?
Regards
Vaughn
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From: KEITH LOONEY                           Number: 6987
  To: JAMES WALLACE                            Date: 11/05/93 12:10p
Subj: Re: NEC-CD-ROM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Why not try listing a price! Most people don't want to spend their hard earned
money making unneeded long distance phone calls.

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From: KEITH LOONEY                           Number: 6988
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 11/05/93 12:13p
Subj: nec36                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Just wanted to leave you a note that I received th cd drive and got it up and
running with no problem. Thank you.

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From: DAN HENDRICKS                          Number: 6989
  To: CHARLEY DAME                             Date: 11/05/93 11:11p
Subj: Enclopedia, Mammals &                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD > I have the wing commander/ultima underworld,willing to
CD > trade.
CD > call me 559-1320


CD > --- SuperBBS 1.17-3 (Reg)
CD >  * Origin: The HOT South BBS. Valdosta, Ga (912)245-1865
CD > (1:3645/30)
 
I'm sorry, but I can't call long-distance. Please reply here. The things I have
for trade:
 
Magnovox Color CGA monitor
85 key Keyboard (All working, little dirty but I'll clean it)
External 2400 baud modem (no cable or power supply. I could give               
          the needed specs to get one)
MS-DOS v6.0 Upgrade (May have to wait a week or two for this)
MAYBE 2 megs. 1x9x70ns Memory...
And a pretty nice 386SX/16, 250MB HD, VGA for sale. I doubt your        
interested, but it's worth a try...
 
I don't know, I guess I'd rather buy it, but are you interested in anything?
 
Thanks for the reply...
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From: TOM ROSETTI                            Number: 6990
  To: RICHARD WICKER                           Date: 11/04/93  4:48p
Subj: Re: Adult GIFs on CD                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RW> Sounds like a great deal!  Is that IBM software you got

Yeah, it's IBM stuff.  I'm toying with trying to hook it up to the Amiga.
Should be just a standard SCSI connector and a driver.  I've got my eye out
for Amiga stuff on CD, especially a BBS ready Fred Fish disk.  Also looking
for some of the Hot Pix volumes.  Maybe someone is tired of looking at one and
wants to unload it relatively cheap.  Those GIF's are good for either Amiga or
IBM.

RW> TR> 9 or 10 categories.  There were even a few Amiga animations.
RW> I can handle that!

I thought you might feel that way.

RW> No the Wicker Basket is still down, waiting for the third

Bummer.  Send me an E-Mail when you're back so I can visit. 1:109/549.510.

Tom 
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From: SYSOP                                  Number: 6991
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/05/93 10:49p
Subj: Night Owl 10                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a Night Owl 10 Shareware CD.

Anyone got one?

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From: ERIC LUZUM                             Number: 6992
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 11/06/93  2:26a
Subj: Re: busty babes 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

i'm interested in the cd, but the price is a little too steep for a college
student.  thanxs anyway.  have a good one.
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From: BERNT MANSSON                          Number: 6993
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/05/93  6:43a
Subj: Movies..                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello!

I'm intrested in buying any CD-Rom that has anything remotly to do with movies
and videos.

I have the "Cinemania '92" and "Video Movie Guide 1993", is there any others
out ?? If so, who can ship to me in Sweden ??

Netmail to 2:201/506 or snailmail to:

Bernt Mansson
Linvagen 4
S-145 67 Norsborg
Sweden
+46 8 53177852





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From: DAN WADE                               Number: 6994
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 11/05/93  3:21p
Subj: Busty Babes Volume II                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
 
 
     Well as far as I am concerned, Busty Babe II is a real winner. I
love all the high res scans and the good variety of shots. I have a
disk called Southern Beauties that also is fairly new, but the way the
women pose was all the same pretty much. I like that Busty has 1,000
different scans on it and the shareware is a nice extra. That Southern
Beauties disk had the same pictures repeated as real big TIF files,
this is where they get all the meg from. I mean to say Busty ads were
misleading is not true. I feel I got everything they said I would,
1,000 hi-res scans (actually 1,001) whereas your ad says 1,000 scans
over 675 meg. Well how could you both have 1,000 scans, yet you have
3X the meg that Busty has? At least I can use the shareware on Busty,
your TIF files I are useless to me since I don't have the equipment to
appreciate them. A.at least Busty has everything it says it does, and
the show-off front end is really cool.  The only reason I compare
these two is because they are really the newest disks with the new
style of adult CD GIF files available. I have a lot of other disks,
but the old style stuff really isn't available these days.  Publishers
seem to have come to a dead stop and are starting all over again with
a newer softer type of disk.
 
     As far as all the derogatory comments about Busty Babes II Mr.
Vangelder, didn't your partner used to work with the producer of Busty
Babes?? and isn't it true there may be some bitterness and competition
that may really jade your opinion of this disk?? From what I recall
Southern Beauties (your disk) didn't get such rave reviews either.
 
     I feel the consumer needs to really judge for themselves. Both
disks are really good products, but I think Busty Babes II is a better
value for the money. Again this is just a personal opinion, but as a
connoisseur of adult disks, I'd like to see disks more like Busty II.
Thanks Busty publishers, keep up the good work!!!!


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From: JOHN CHAO                              Number: 6995
  To: ALAN MCCREADY                            Date: 11/06/93 11:56a
Subj: CD-ROM Drive Wanted                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry, this is not a direct reply, but you may want to wait for a new portable
coming out by NEC that is pretty fast and not overtly expensive.

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From: BILL PEARSON                           Number: 6996
  To: TOM HUNT                                 Date: 11/05/93 11:03p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TH>I will take the chinon drive & cables from you, if you warranty no DOA 
TH>send COD to   Tom Hunt 
Tom, will warranty no DOA, drive works fine and has all original 
packing, docs, cables, drivers and card. Would request prepay with 
cashiers check or money order. Will split shipping. Call 717-566-7451 
if interested. 
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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 6997
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/06/93 10:50a
Subj: Busty Babes Series                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Hello Ms Lee.  I have been a fan of the Busty Babes Adult CDs since I
  ordered my first copy of BB-I/3.  When you first announced the forth-
  comming BB-II I ordered my copy the first day pre-orders were being
  accepted.  Will probably continue to be a customer of "LionsDEN" CDs
  for some time however as a previous cash customer and potential cash
  cow (little cow as I only purchase single disks) in the future I would
  like to offer my comments in a constructive manner.



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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6998
  To: MACY BERGOON                             Date: 11/05/93  2:18p
Subj: Programming/Tech CD's                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>I am looking for all types of programming CD's.  Anything related to
MB>technical information & programming will be considered.  Send your lists
MB>here to me and I am ready to buy.

The new Tech Arsenal might be the one for you.  Great new CD with lots of
programming and technical files.  In stock at $22 if you're interested.

Later,
.\\ike

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 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 6999
  To: PAUL NALEY                               Date: 11/05/93  2:18p
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PN>You will not be disappointed by dealing with StarVector Software. Mike
PN>Shannon runs a first rate outfit and usually has some of the lowest
PN>prices going. The only thing to watch out for is the CD ROM Disks which
PN>he only stocks in a low volume. I recently purchased "Mad Dog McCree"
PN>from him and the very next day say the same product in Micro Center for
PN>$10 less than what I just paid from StarVector. Mike did offer to let me
PN>send the disk back for a refund, but by the time you go through the
PN>hassle of mailing it and waiting for your return $$$'s and then having
PN>to go back to another store to purchase it, well it just was not worth
PN>it. At the time I purchased "Mad Dog McCree", Mike did claim that he had
PN>the lowest price anywhere on this disk. His price on this disk did not
PN>even come close to the $34.99 that Micro Center is charging.

Paul,

Thanks for the order and the kind words, but a clarification if I may:
When you placed the order for Mad Dog, I told you honestly that I had
not seen it advertised lower.  I DIDN'T claim that I had the "lowest
price anywhere" on the title, as you stated above.  Even though you
agreed to pay the price I was charging, I offered to take it back and
credit your account.  I do all I can to meet or beat the competition's
prices, and can do so about 95 times out of 100, but because I buy MDM's
in fairly small quantities, I'm not able to get great volume discounts,
and the margin was just too close in this instance.  I have adjusted my
price to $39 in able to be more competetive on this popular title, and
since you paid $44, I'll issue you a $5 credit toward your next order.
Hope that helps.

Again, I appreciate your business and hope we can do more, but my
conversation with you was taken slightly out of context, and since you
made it public, I felt obligated to set the record straight.  No big.

Take care,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7000
  To: JOHN TUTTON                              Date: 11/05/93  2:18p
Subj: PROGRAMMER'S MEGAPAK: $29               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JT>I am interested in a CD for programmers.  Specifically, something with alot
o
JT>C source code and preferably with tutorials and other resources.  Does this
JT>describe the programmer's megapak?

It does indeed, or we also have the new Tech Arsenal in stock, which may
even be a better value.  Newer files, and less dough:  $22 + s/h.

Shout if interested!

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7001
  To: LANE PETERSON                            Date: 11/05/93  2:18p
Subj: os2                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LP>Do you know where I can get that OS2 CDROM? I have a sony cdrom drive,
that's
LP>supported by OS2 isn't it?

Lane,

If you're referring to OS/2Box, Goeff got it from us.  Price is $29 + $4
shipping if you're interested.  Your Sony drive will work fine with it.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
 509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7002
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/05/93  6:43p
Subj: ATTENTION OS/2 USERS!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |        Title:  OS/2BOX        |  |   Price:  $29   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

                            >>> IT'S HERE! <<<

     For those of you who have placed your pre-orders with us for this
     terrific new CD, and are waiting patiently, we thank you.  Due to
     production delays, the release was pushed back a couple of weeks,
     but the wait is over!  The newest and hottest OS/2 shareware CD
     on the world market is here!  All pre-orders are now being
     shipped, and we want to sincerely thank all our great customers for
     their patience.

     You all know about the great track record of Damar's previous
     releases:  CD-Winbox and CD-Powerbox.  Well, get ready OS/2 users,
     because the BEST and most RECENT OS/2 shareware CD is here! The
     demand for this new CD is VERY high so get your order in now!

     * Slick, mouse-driven graphic user interface for OS/2
     * Consists of 100% OS/2 2.0+ shareware applications. No old version
       1.x files
     * Fully BBS-ready
     * 350+mb total

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

                 >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<
                 >>>     DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE      <<<

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7003
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/05/93  6:43p
Subj: TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #2:  TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES   |
         |________________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

>BUSTY BABES VOL 2 * The FIRST serious "soft" adult CD for BBS!.........$29
>OS/2BOX * Want the latest OS/2 shareware? No contest - it's OS/2Box....$29
>TECH ARSENAL * 7302 technical-related programs of all types. BBS-ready.$22
 GIF GALAXY * 650mb of new high-rez .GIF images. BBS-ready..............$24
>STAR TREK COLLECTIBLES * CD-ROM encyclopedia of Star Trek memorabilia..$59

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7004
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/05/93  6:43p
Subj: ATTENTION CD-ROM DEALERS!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                        ATTENTION CD-ROM DEALERS!
                        -------------------------
 Starvector is pleased to announce our joint venture with The Pier Exchange
 and Damar Enterprises, as distributors for their respective lines of high-
 quality, superior shareware CD-ROM titles.  We now have the following CD
 titles available for resale, with EXCELLENT mix-n-match dealer pricing:

   Pier 3 * Pier 2 * Pier 1 * CD OS/2Box * CD Powerbox 1.01 * CD Winbox

   If you are interested in any of these titles, please give us a call!
      Starvector Software * 509-457-2892 (voice) * 509-457-2966 (fax)

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From: WAYNE ALLAN                            Number: 7005
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/06/93 10:09p
Subj: HOST MODE                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I AM USING COMM PROGRAM QLII WHICH HAS A HOST MODE.
WHEN A CALLER TRIES TO UP OR DOWN LOAD A FILE NOTHING COMES THROUGH.
WE ARE USING THE SAME PROGRAM AT BOTH ENDS SET AT ANSI N-8-1.
IS THERE A MINI BBS PROGRAM THAT WOULD DO THE JOB ???

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From: GREG WILSON                            Number: 7006
  To: FREDERICK A. BURGESS                     Date: 11/06/93  3:25a
Subj: RE:CD-Rom Catalog!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send me and my brother a catalog

GREG WILSON
2825 AUSTIN ST.
CORPUS CHRISTI, TEXAS 78404

JOSH WILSON
P.O. BOX 436
FOULTON, TEXAS 78358


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From: LANE PETERSON                          Number: 7007
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/07/93  2:10p
Subj: os2                                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

What is OS2 BOX? Is that OS2 2.1 on CDrom? If so I am interested in buying
that. Where can I order it?


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From: LANE PETERSON                          Number: 7008
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/07/93  2:31p
Subj: CD PRICES                               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

You advertised this title:
Shakespeare...................17.50

I was wondering if you could tell me what's on it. I am looking for the
complete works of shakespeare on CDrom, if this is it, I might be interested
inbuying it.
                                                        Lane Peterson


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From: LANE PETERSON                          Number: 7009
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 11/07/93  2:37p
Subj: cdrom prices 4 of 5                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

is this:Shakespeare...Complete set of texts..............................16.95 
  
cdrom the complete works of shakespeare? If so please send ordering
instructions as i may order it.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 7010
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 11/02/93  5:29p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>  Hey Brice!  Everytime that you post your list of CDs, you must make
>  your pages to darn long as I have never seen anything past the 1of3.

 Some accursed "dupe checker" is nuking stuff it should NOT be nuking, then -
SLMR automagically splits the list into multiple messages for me.

> Shorten up your lists and post each one as a separate message.

 I'll try that if/when I find some time to "play" with the list....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Why don't lawyers lie on the beach? Cats would bury them!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 7011
  To: JEFF HUBERT                              Date: 11/04/93  7:01p
Subj: CD ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Actually, double speed mitsumi has always been less expensive than the
>panasonic, where did you see those prices?

Standard going price from several vendors in the Mail Order market, as well as
one vendor that happens to be local to me, is $229 on the Panasonic double-
speed drive kit.

 I like Mitsumi drives overall (I've got TWO of them), but the Panasonic I
would class as a slightly better deal, if ONLY because the Panasonic is daisy-
chainable....


 * SLMR 2.1a * 666-xxxx : Prefix of the Beast

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 7012
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 11/04/93  7:03p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>By any chance are you planning on going to the hamfest at
>Southfield, MI in a few days?

If you mean the Oak Park Hamfest at the Southfield Pavilion, I should be there
- sent the check in earlier this week, and confirmed my tables via phone.

 Look for the guy in the grey ballcap with "Brice's Library" in red lettering
behind 2 tables full of CD-ROMs and books and a few CDs....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Why should I look at the Docs? Nurses are prettier....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 7013
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 11/05/93 11:24a
Subj: CD DISCS FOR SALE                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>$12.50  John O'Conner Associates

Which one? John O'Connor Associates has well over 20 discs out....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Cat advice: Take the time to eat the flowers....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 7014
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/05/93 11:49a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1 OF 3                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                             Brice's Library
                     CD-ROM Price List 26 October 1993

                      5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
                          Indianapolis, IN 46220
                        Tue Thu  11 AM - 8 PM   EST
                        Wed Fri  11 AM - 6 PM   EST
                (317) 726-1980 voice   (317) 726-1387 BBS
         FidoNet 1:231/190  UseNet towers.rn.com!mgcind!sfbhq!sysop

                All prices include any applicable Sales Tax
               Shipping included to U.S. addresses if prepaid

 $ 14 1001 Utilities                     $ 39 Lost Treasures of Infocom II
 $ 29 5 Star Premium DOS                 $ 35 Lovely Ladies II
 $ 19 501 Sound Waves                    $ 49 Lyric Language French
 $ 52 7'th Guest                         $ 49 Lyric Language Spanish
 $ 35 9 Digit Zip Code Directory         $ 30 MacMillan Dictionary for Children
 $ 25 9000 Sounds                        $ 50 Mad Dog McCree
 $ 39 A Christmas Carol                  $ 35 Made in the USA
 $ 41 A Line in the Sand                 $ 22 Magazine Rack
 $ 27 A Long Hard Day at the Ranch       $ 35 Majestic Places
 $ 42 A+ Grade Builder                   $ 24 Mammals (Nat. Geographic)
 $ 30 About Cows                         $ 37 Manhole
 $ 30 ADA Programming                    $ 20 Mantis Experimental Fighter (OEM)
 $ 37 Adventures                         $299 Map Expert w/ Street Atlas USA
 $ 69 Adventures of Pinocchio (MAC)      $ 26 Mario is Missing w/World Atlas
 $ 20 Adventures of Willy Beamish        $ 42 Masterpiece Library
 $ 27 Aesop's Fables                     $ 49 Matinee Screen Saver
 $ 70 Ageis Guardian Fleet               $ 24 Mavis Beacon Teach Typing (MPC)
 $ 58 Air Warrier                        $ 25 Mayo Clinic (MPC)
 $ 28 Aircraft Encyclopedia              $ 29 Mega A/V
 $ 39 Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp     $ 42 Mega Movie Guide
 $ 40 Aloha, Hawaii!                     $ 36 Microprose Collection
 $ 69 Amanda Stories                     $ 52 Microsoft Bookshelf '93 (MPC)
 $ 66 Amazing Universe                   $ 98 Microsoft Dinosaurs
 $ 15 American Business Phone Book '92   $270 Microsoft Encarta
 $ 25 American Business Phone Book '93   $ 61 Microsoft Musical Instruments
 $ 66 American Heritage Ilus Ency Dict   $ 40 Microsoft Works
 $ 49 American Journey 1896-1945         $ 30 Middle East Diary
 $ 38 American Vista                     $ 53 MIDI Connection
 $ 60 American Vista (MAC)               $ 24 MIDI Music Shop for Windows
 $ 15 America's Premier Shareware        $ 84 Mist Mac
 $ 66 Americans in Space                 $ 19 Mixed Up Mother Goose
 $ 20 Aminet                             $ 58 Monarch Notes
 $ 15 Anecdotes                          $ 30 Money, Money, Money!
 $ 22 Animals of San Diego Zoo (DOS)     $ 27 Monster Media '93
 $ 22 Animals of San Diego Zoo (MPC)     $ 31 Mother Earth II
 $ 30 Animation Festival (MPC)           $ 16 Mother of All Clip Art
 $ 74 Annabel's Dream of Ancient Egypt   $ 27 Moving Gives Me a Stomachache
 $ 25 Arthur's Teacher Trouble (MPC)     $ 44 Mowgli's Brothers
 $ 59 Arthur's Teacher Trouble (Mac)     $ 37 Mozart Multimedia Musicbook
 $ 30 Atlas of U.S. Presidents           $ 14 MPC Wizard
 $ 18 Audio Collection (MPC)             $ 27 Mud Puddle
 $ 19 Audubon's Birds                    $ 25 Multimedia Computor Tutor
 $ 19 Audubon's Mammals (MPC)            $ 46 Murder Makes Strange Deadfellows
 $ 45 Authorware Star                    $ 57 Murmurs of Earth (3 discs)
 $ 89 Autodesk Explorer                  $ 49 My Advanced Label Designer
 $ 58 B17 Flying Fortress                $ 24 National Parks (MultiMedia)
 $ 16 Barney Bear Goes to School         $ 59 Nautilus Backpack Vol.I
 $ 16 Barney Bear Goes to Space          $ 59 Nautilus Backpack Vol.II
 $ 33 Barron's Book Notes                $ 35 New Basics Electronic Cookbook
 $ 21 Battle Chess (original)            $ 25 New York at it's Best
 $ 25 Battle Chess (enhanced version)    $ 20 Night Owl Business Software
 $ 19 Beauty and the Beast               $ 26 Night Owl Graphics
 $ 63 Beethoven: The Ninth Symphony      $ 24 Night Owl 9
 $ 27 Benjamin Bunny                     $ 30 Night Owl 10
 $ 66 Better H&G Healthy Cooking         $ 28 North American Fax Phonebook
 $ 28 Beyond the Wall of Stars           $ 26 North American Indians
 $ 53 Blue Force                         $ 20 NOVA (for NeXT)
 $ 55 Book of Lists #3                   $ 74 Ocean in Motion (QT)
 $ 25 Britain at it's Best               $ 30 Officer's Bookcase
 $ 16 Britannica Select Software         $  9 Original Shareware 1992
 $ 10 Business Assistant                 $ 44 Our House
 $ 30 Business Backgrounds               $ 12 Our Solar System
 $ 49 Business Library v.1               $119 Oxford English Reference Library
 $ 36 Business Made Easy                 $ 35 Pacific Islands
 $ 18 Business Master I                  $ 27 Paper Bag Princess
 $ 19 Business Master II                 $ 18 PC Game Room
 $ 26 C User's Group Library             $ 28 PC Medic
 $ 12 California Collection              $ 22 PC-SIG #12
 $ 39 California/Hawaii Golf Guide       $ 12 PC-SIG Games
 $ 41 California Travel                  $ 12 PC-SIG Home and Business
 $ 40 Cameron's Fine Art Catalog         $ 16 PC-SIG World of Games
 $ 30 Career Opportunities               $ 16 PC-SIG World of Windows
 $ 49 Case of the Cautious Condor        $ 28 Pentominoes
 $ 30 CD CAD v3.7                        $ 19 Peter and the Wolf (MPC)
 $ 19 CD Funhouse                        $ 30 Pharmacist Guide to Drugs
 $ 39 CD Funhouse (Boxed)                $ 11 Phoenix #3
 $ 20 CD Powerbox                        $ 16 Phoenix #4
 $ 48 CD ROM Deluxe Pack                 $ 24 Phoenix Phun Games
 $ 20 CD WinBox                          $ 73 Phonedisc USA Business
 $ 47 Chess Maniac 5 Billion             $ 70 Phonedisc USA Residential
 $ 24 Chessmaster 3000                   $ 99 Photo Pro Vol. 1
 $ 24 CIA World Fact Book                $ 99 Photo Pro Vol. 2
 $ 30 CIA World Fact Book (MultiMedia)   $ 99 Photo Pro Vol. 3
 $ 15 CICA Windows                       $ 18 Photo Pro Vol. 3 (OEM)
 $ 27 Cinderella                         $109 Picture Atlas of the World
 $ 59 Cinemania                          $ 99 Pilgram Quest
 $ 30 Classic Clips Trailers             $ 30 Pixel Garden
 $ 50 Classic Collection+ (4 discs)      $ 33 Pixel Perfect Graphics
 $ 27 Clipart Galore                     $ 30 Plant Doctor
 $ 12 Clip Art Goliath                   $ 29 Playing with Languages  English
 $ 15 Clipart Heaven                     $ 29 Playing with Languages  French
 $ 35 Clipmaster Pro                     $ 29 Playing with Languages  German
 $ 69 CNN Newsroom Globalview            $ 29 Playing with Languages  Italian
 $ 30 Coates Art Review: Impressionism   $ 29 Playing with Languages  Japanese
 $ 26 Colormagic Clip Art                $ 29 Playing with Languages  Spanish
 $ 12 Colossal Cookbook                  $ 66 Pop & Politics
 $ 63 Complete Audubon                   $ 22 Power Tools
 $ 12 Complete Bookshop                  $ 18 Powerpack Gold 3 (update)
 $ 15 Complete Home/Office Legal Guide   $ 79 Precision Mapping #1.5
 $ 40 Complete House                     $ 41 Prescription Drugs
 $ 35 Composer Quest                     $ 49 Private Eye Mysteries
 $ 69 Composer Quest (Boxed)             $ 30 Programmer's ROM
 $ 26 Compton's Family Choice            $ 20 Project Gutenburg
 $249 Compton's Family Encyclopedia      $ 42 Prophone 1992 (3 discs)
 $ 97 Compton's Interactive Encycl.      $100 Prophone 1993 (7 discs?)
 $ 12 Computer Referance Library         $ 25 Prophone Business Directory '93
 $ 44 Conan the Cimmerian                $ 32 Publique Arte
 $ 30 Conan the Cimmerian (OEM)          $ 24 Publish It 2.0 (GEM/DOS)
 $ 52 Conquest of the Longbow            $ 65 Publish It     (Windows)
 $ 30 Consumer Information Disc          $ 30 Publishers Paradise
 $ 15 Cookbook Heaven                    $ 39 Putt-Putt's Fun Pack
 $ 40 Corel Art Show III                 $ 63 Putt-Putt Joins the Parade
 $189 Corel Draw 3.0                     $ 43 Q & A
 $449 Corel Draw 4.0                     $ 20 QRZ Ham Radio
 $ 49 Creation Stories                   $ 36 Quicktoon Cartoon Classics (QT)
 $ 49 Creepy Crawlies                    $ 26 Quicktoon Cartoon Classisc (OEM)
 $ 30 Crossword Cracker                  $ 44 Race the Clock
 $ 33 Curse of Enchantia                 $ 30 RBBS In A Box #3.1
 $ 49 Cute and Cuddlies                  $ 30 Reader's Library
 $ 15 Cybergenic Ranger                  $ 36 Reel Clips
 $ 34 Dagger of Amon Ra                  $ 18 Reference Library
 $ 18 Danger, Hot Stuff!                 $ 17 Resource Linrary Audio
 $ 25 Danger, Hot Stuff II               $ 18 Resource Library Graphics
 $ 60 Dare Bluff or Die!                 $ 23 Resource Library Language Ops.
 $ 24 Data Base Made Easy                $ 26 Resource Library Multimedia
 $ 48 Day of the Tentacle                $ 51 Return of the Phantom
 $ 12 Deathstar Arcade Battles           $ 46 Return to the Moon
 $ 35 Deep Voyage                        $ 60 Ringworld: Revemge of Patriarch
 $ 42 Desert Storm Coalition Command     $ 36 Rodney's Funscreen
 $ 15 Desktop Bookshop                   $ 30 Roger Ebert Movie Companion
 $ 35 Desktop Publishers Dream Disc      $ 25 RoMaterial
 $ 12 Dictionaries and Languages         $ 16 RoMaterial (OEM)


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 7015
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/05/93 11:49a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1 OF 3                Refer: NONE
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 7016
  To: KIMBLE RIGNEY                            Date: 11/05/93  1:02p
Subj: BBS DEFENSE FUND                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>If you find the protection of the peddlers of material which exploits  women,

From what I've seen, the women are more likely to be DOING the exploiting, not
vice versa.

>I generally find myself of the same mind regarding the First Amendment as was
>Justice Hugo Black. If it is speech, then it is protected.

Per Jefferson, who WROTE that particular amendment, "speach" was intended to
cover ANY form of expression.


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 7017
  To: JOHN TUTTON                              Date: 11/05/93  1:05p
Subj: PROGRAMMER'S MEGAPAK: $29               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I am interested in a CD for programmers.  Specifically, something with alot of
>C source code

 Walnut Creek's "C Users Library" and "Source Code" offerings BOTH fit this.

My catalog is 2-4 messages back....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 7018
  To: GREG JONES                               Date: 11/05/93  1:07p
Subj: PIONEER CDROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>  JA> I have a Pioneer Cdrom DRM-600A for sale
>> I'll give ya 400.00 for it. can get em new for 689.00
>Please tell me where you can get them for 689.00

Doug Carpenter, here in this echo and/or over in CDROM echo and/or over in
CFORSALE echo.


 * SLMR 2.1a * My other computer runs the BBS....

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7019
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/07/93 12:53a
Subj: CD-ROM'S ON SALE!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #4:  CD-ROM LIQUIDATION!   |
         |________________________________________________________|

            All sales are final - Sale limited to stock on hand!

Mega Clipart........$19   Powerpak Gold 3.0...$14   Wrath of the Demon..$27
World Vision 3-Pak..$37   Business Phonebk 91.$13   Bookshelf 1992......$35
Mac Shareware.......$19   Spirit of Excalibur.$27   Mac M/M Space.......$29
Sporting News.......$22   Business Phonebk 92.$14   Game Pack 2.........$22
Original S/W 1993...$10   Phoenix 4.0.........$17   Jedi Collection.....$37
So Much Shareware...$17   Clipart Galore......$22   Reel Clips..........$27
Pier 2..............$19   Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$21   Arizona Images......$19
Top 2000 Shareware..$18   Software Vault 1....$15   CD Powerbox.........$13
California Collct'n.$15   Hobbes OS/2 1992....$10   Sights & Sounds.....$21
K-Tracks Sound F/X..$17   Sounds for Windows..$15   Canadian Shareware..$17

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7020
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/07/93 12:53a
Subj: FIREARMS REFERENCE CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |   Title:  FIREARMS REFERENCE  |  |   Price:  $25   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

     We are pleased to announce the release of Firearms Reference 1993.
     This CD-ROM is intended to be both a reference and an entertaining
     diversion for the computer enthusiast who is interested in guns of
     all types.  What's more . . . it can be used on a BBS!

     * Features over 600 products
     * 70 different manufacturers
     * 256-color hi-rez images
     * BBS-Ready in several formats
     * Custom-designed Super-VGA interface
     * Covers every firearm from black powder rifles, to Class 3 weapons
     * Even covers crossbows, optics, and ammo!

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE STEFFEN                           Number: 7021
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/07/93  7:54a
Subj: ADult CD ROMs to trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I've got FAO (For Adults Only) #'s 1 & 3 from Profit Press to trade.
Also have Battle Chess, and Civilization/Mantis games, will trade for adult
CD's.
Mike
I can be reached at 1-319-234-0938  9-5:30 CST

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From: JOHN A. ETLING                         Number: 7022
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/05/93  1:08p
Subj: CD-ROM Wanted                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a reasonably priced CD-ROM drive to use with a BBS.
Price range looking at would be in the area of no more than $150.00
Any reasonable "kits" available will be considered.  I would need the
card as well as all hookups.  Any "old" CD's that would be thrown in as
an added bonus would be appreciated.  Will consider any offers as long
as GUARANTEED against DOA.  Contact me via this net or direct to
BBS/Fido at (412)-439-6324.  FidoNet node 1:2615/10.

 € OLX 2.1 TD € Do you know how to keep a BBSer in suspense?
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From: JOHN A. ETLING                         Number: 7023
  To: GARY HOFFERMAN                           Date: 11/06/93  5:35a
Subj: Cdrom resellers wanted                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GH|o| We are looking for resellers and system builders who would be inter
  |o| marketing or bundling CDROM software. We are distributors and broke
  |o| 400 titles (and growing). Export orders are our specialty.

Send me some information on this.  I would be most interested in
checking this out.  After acknowledgement in this echo I'll send you my
personal address via direct mail.

FidoNet node: 1:2615/10 or BBS number (412)-439-6324)

Please give specific info on requirements, etc.

 € OLX 2.1 TD € Docs....I don't need no stinkin' docs!
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From: JOHN A. ETLING                         Number: 7024
  To: JAMES WALLACE                            Date: 11/06/93  5:35a
Subj: NEC-CD-ROM                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JW>NEC Multi-Spin For SALE!!!!
JW>External SCSI Model 38
JW>Less than 3 weeks old
JW>Jim Wallace    (804) 589-6394

What is the price?

 € OLX 2.1 TD € Docs? Why would I want to look at the Docs. Nurses are be
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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 7025
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 11/07/93  8:58a
Subj: Just Grandma and Me                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I know that it is almost 3 months since you mentioned you had a
Macintosh version of this program. Do you still have it, and want to
sell it? Thanks for letting me know!


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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 7026
  To: CRAIG MOSER                              Date: 11/07/93  9:01a
Subj: Mac Cdroms                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Back in August you left a post on here about some shareware Mac Cdroms
you wanted to sell. Do you still have them? If so, which ones - and when
were the files created? Are they new, or older programs? Thanks!


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From: JANET SMITH                            Number: 7027
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/06/93  5:59p
Subj: ANIMATED X CD?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone know of a good CD with XXX animated files?  Any suggestions
and what is the price??       (shareware)

                            Janet Smith
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From: JANET SMITH                            Number: 7028
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 11/06/93  6:07p
Subj: Night Owl 10                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>                A L L   N E W   N I G H T  O W L  10

BO>* Over 5,100 NEW Files   * Over 647 Meg's    * No Dupes   * Virus Checked
BO>* No Dupes To v9.0       * All Zipped Files  * New Viewer * and  More  !!
BO> * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46)

Boris   Need to check on Night Owl 10, there is a virus file in
directory 20 (games/scenery)  SF2_UP.zip, it contains the memory lapse
virus. File is supposed to be an update to Street Fighter II.
      Took the file description off my Night Owl 10 file list..

                                   Janet Smith

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From: PAUL CHATFIELD                         Number: 7029
  To: GARY HOFFERMAN                           Date: 11/05/93  8:03p
Subj: Catalogue please send                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send me a catalogue i would like to resell in asia

Paul Chatfield
c/o #15-01 The Octagon
105 Cecil Street
Singapore 0106

Waiting for the postman.......you take VISA of course

At least respond to me with you IDD telephone number and 800 if you have one
Fax too.....

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From: PAUL CHATFIELD                         Number: 7030
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/05/93  8:12p
Subj: Catalogue please send                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send me a catalogue i would like to resell in asia

Paul Chatfield
c/o #15-01 The Octagon
105 Cecil Street
Singapore 0106

Waiting for the postman.......you take VISA of course

At least respond to me with you IDD telephone number and 800 if you have one
Fax too.....

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7031
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 11/07/93  7:48a
Subj: BUSTY BABES REVIEW                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well, I've never done a shareware, etc. review, but I'd be willing to try.
Frank Gresh (active on this echo) has done a couple, as have a couple of other
folks. I don't buy shareware CDs (not a sysop) so someone would have to
lend/donate the CDs.

What evaluation criteria criteria would you like to see in a shareware CD
review (besides "BBS Ready")?

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7032
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 11/07/93  9:01a
Subj: Re: Universal Interface                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Dave Perkovich to All <=-

 DP> Damar Enterprises is looking for Beta testers for its unique
 DP> Windows-based  Graphical User Interface.  THE UNIVERSAL INTERFACE is
 DP> here!

Now THIS is an idea with real merit!! It's becoming a sore point with me
that all the cool end-user interfaces on CDs these days are proprietary
and incompatible with each other. I really hate having to dedicate
HDD space to each one, not to mention having to remember how each
one works. I've had an un-posted "editorial" rattling around in my
cranium for a few weeks now on this very topic. Thanks, Dave, for
surfacing the issue AND doing something about it!

The story is just as sad for image CDs. I for one think the GUI idea is
on the way in, like it or not. (The computing world just seems to be
moving away from text-based interfaces. For example, Apple getting
serious about licensing System 7 for x86 platforms.) For image CDs,
there are at least four popular programs out there that will create the
so-called "thumbnail" images in a visual catalog for point-and-click
access. The problem is, again, they're all incompatible with each other.
Since the catalog pages are themselves (usually) GIF images which use
the 89a standard (I think) to keep the necessary additional information
needed to do P-A-C, a little cooperation on the vendors' part would let
users pick the GUI they liked best without sacrificing what CD they
could use it on.

Do you have any idea about how to approach those guys and get them
talking to one another about such a movement?

... This tagline is SHAREWARE!  To register, send me $10
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From: RUSS MICHAELSON                        Number: 7033
  To: MARK GLENN                               Date: 11/06/93  6:25p
Subj: cd-roms - niteowl 8 & 9                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG>Russ Dont mean to break in here I have Nightowl 8.0 and 9.0 for sale
MG>here... my phone number is 515-280-8403(BBS) or get ahold of me through
MG>fido at 1:290/17......


        OK Mike, I apprciate you jumping in.  So....how much do you want
        for each or both of these ?   I am assuming they have been used
        on your bbs.  Let me know; let's deal.

        Russ
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 7034
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/05/93  8:17p
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MS>Who keeps putting you guys up to this??  I don't have any complaints, it's 
  >just that I never see anyone asking the crowd about Boris, Doug, Jim, or 
  >any of the other dealers.  8) 
 
That's because they already KNOW we are reputable dealers!  YOU are the 
shady character! <Howl!> 
 
                                                Jim... 
 
                                                Computer Works 
                                           "Reputable CD-Rom Sales!" 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 7035
  To: VICTOR LOBERGER                          Date: 11/05/93  8:40p
Subj: So Much Shareware 1 Want                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

VL>     Anyone have a copy of SO MUCH SHAREWARE 1 for sale.  I'd like to 
  >complete my "library" of the SO MUCH series.  Please leave a message to 
  >me with the best way to contact you.  Thanks! 
 
Although I am a fan of the "So Much" series myself, I have done some 
testing which shows heavy duplication between each volume.  There are a 
lot of updated files in subsequent releases.  You may want to go for 
something different such as Software Vault Gold. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Orders, File Lists, Catalogs 
 
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7036
  To: DOUG MCCLELLAN                           Date: 11/01/93  1:09a
Subj: Re: DRM604X                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Who's selling the DRM604X these days? Please leave you name
>>    and number.

You can give us a call Doug as we have them in stock. If your interested,
please feel free to give us a call at 2166-225-3263 anytime and we'll  be
happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7037
  To: KAWAI WONG                               Date: 11/01/93  2:13a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    ÿ@ORIGIN :MicroSolutions BBS-(615) 868-3163 USR v32b/v42b
>>    (1:116/109) N -> **************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P
>>    R I C E S **************** -> Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00
>>    -SCSI

>>       Do you have an external one for this model??  If so, how
>>     much?? ---

Sorry to say but no....can't help you there.

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7038
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/01/93  2:13a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 10                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                A L L   N E W   N I G H T  O W L  10

* Over 5,100 NEW Files   * Over 647 Meg's    * No Dupes   * Virus Checked
* No Dupes To v9.0       * All Zipped Files  * New Viewer * and  More  !!
The  ALL NEW  "Night Owl 10 "  is here  and ready  for  delievery  !! All
programs on this cd were written or updated between Jan 1st and  Sept 1st
1993.  In fact, 100megs of the total files are from Sept 1993.In addition,
N.O has a mouse driven GUI interface for both DOS and Windows !!
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7039
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/01/93  2:13a
Subj: PIER 3                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*************************   P I E R   3  ******************************

            New Shareware CD from "The Pier Exchange
          600 + Megs Of The Latest Shareware Programs

                         PRICE  -  $25.00

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6130

************************************************************************

Boris Osadciw

... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7040
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/01/93  2:13a
Subj: BUSTY BABE 2                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ B U S T Y  B A B E S  # 2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          All NEW Busty Babes II is in stock ready for delievery !!

                             P R I C E - $30.00

  ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7041
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 11/01/93  7:14a
Subj: BRAND NEW CD-ROM TITL                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Giffy Gold DOES predate them both, but Mike said "serious" contender. GG  is a
rather amatuerish collection and doesn't compete well against SB or  BBV2 IMO.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7042
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 11/01/93  7:17a
Subj: CD REVIEWS                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the kind words, Dave. Certainly EVERYONE is entitled to their own
opinions about CDs (or anything else for that matter). If there's any added
value to my reviews, I feel it's that's I try to be consistent in  the
character of my remarks so that folks can get a calibration of my  values
regarding the CDs. If they bother to do that, then when they read  the "next"
review, they'l be able to compare for them selves and no what  to expect.
Thanks for being supportive. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7043
  To: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN                        Date: 11/01/93  7:19a
Subj: Re: REVIEW OF BUSTY BABES - V.II        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The ZIPped version of the review has been restored to The Hard Disc Cafe  as
BBV2.ZIP and can be FREQed from there or D/L-ed. I've also re-posted  it
there and here (Bit Bucket) as well. Hope it makes it out this time. 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7044
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/01/93 11:56a
Subj: Re: ADULT NOVEMBER TITLES               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JR>                   "NEW & IMPROVED USER-FRIENDLY PRICE LIST!"      
 JR>       "WE DON'T CARE ABOUT MAKING MONEY - WE JUST LOVE TO SELL C  
 JR>        Over 750 disc titles & hardware products are now availabl  
 JR> To order, contact:                                                
                                                                       
  
Joe: 
  
You have several titles here that I haven't seen. If you're still 
interested in halping me do reviews, call me @ (713) 488-0065 before 
9:00 p.m. Central most any evening. (Answering machine picks up after 
four rings.) Let's see what we can work out. Cheers! 
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From: KATHY MURPHY                           Number: 7045
  To: JOHN BARDEN                              Date: 11/07/93  8:30a
Subj: Trade                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting John Barden to Kathy Murphy dated 11-03-93 ***
> I have a Multi-Media Encyclopidia I would trade you for a Cd or perhaps 
> something else.. Let me know what you have to offer..

All I have is 3 games to trade one of them being a CD-ROM
Alone in the Dark
Willy Beamish
Curse of Enchantia (CD-ROM)

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From: VINCENT WESSLING                       Number: 7046
  To: JEFF HUBERT                              Date: 11/07/93  8:17a
Subj: Re: Cd- rom for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Jeff Hubert to Wm Kunkel <=-

 JH> I can obtain some high-quality mitsumi internal DOUBLE-SPEED cd-rom 
 JH> drives for a low price, but I do have limited quantities.
 JH> The drive is the brand new mitsumi DOUBLE-SPEED (model FX001D) and it
 JH> comes with the manual, software, and 16-bit card.

 JH> ACT FAST, as these drives are priced at a low $230.00
 JH> plus shipping and there are LIMITED QUANTITIES!!
 JH> CALL (410) 442-2726 NOW!

Why pay that much when ZEOS (and therefore I imagine others) will sell this 
same drive for $199.  I called yesterday and verified this!

Vincent

PS Can anyone beat this price?


... The cost of feathers has risen.  Now even DOWN is up.
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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7047
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/07/93  2:14a
Subj: Night Owl 10 Dealer Recall              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CONFIG.SYS NIGHT OWL 10 DEALER RECALL!!!!<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>        This notice only affects those who purchased this release from
>Joe Rinehart of config.sys, Inc.

        It has been brought to our attention that the recent Night Owl 10
cd-rom disc contains two viruses.  Upon investigation this information was
confirmed.  Considering the Night Owl 10 disc was promoted as a BBS ready
disc which may be downloaded by thousands during its expected life, we have
decided to recall this release.  Compensation will be offered in the form of
an exchange toward another BBS ready disc of equal value.  We are presently
suggesting Terry Blount's recent release "Cream of the Crop II".  Terry's
first publication was proven to be virus free.

        Anyone interested in further information on what we learned from our
Night Owl 10 virus investigation, may contact me.  The basic scan report
follows:

SCAN 9.19 V108     1993/11/7   01:03
Options: E:*.* /BELL /CHKHI /DATE /M /REPORT C:\SCAN.RPT /SUB
Scanning Volume: MS-RAMDRIVE
>Scanning E:.\INSTALL.COM
>  Found the Butterfly [Bfly] Virus
>Scanning E:.\DOCUMENT.COM
>  Found the Butterfly [Bfly] Virus
>Scanning E:.\SPORTS.COM
>  Found the Butterfly [Bfly] Virus
> Found 3 files containing viruses.

SCAN 9.19 V108     1993/11/7   00:50
Options: E:*.* /BELL /CHKHI /DATE /M /REPORT C:\SCAN.RPT /SUB
Scanning Volume: MS-RAMDRIVE
>Scanning E:.\SF2-UP.EXE
>  Found the Memory Lapse [ML] Virus
> Found 1 file containing a virus.


                                 Joe Rinehart
                               config.sys, Inc.
                                 P.O. Box 27
                            Kent, Ohio 44240-0001
  Voice: (216) 296-9831  24 hours
  Voice: (216) 296-1633 6pm-midnight (EST)
  Voice/Messages/Fax: (216) 297-1332 24 hours
  Toll-Free (in Ohio Only) 1-800-521-2881 6pm - midnight (EST)
  Data/Fax (216) 296-4446 ZyXel 16.8 v.42bis The Blue Parrot RBBS 24HRS
  FidoNet: 1:157/479
  KesherNet: 18:711/176
  RBBSNet: 8:965/13
  WWIVNet: 2@2659

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From: KATHY MURPHY                           Number: 7048
  To: MARK TAYLOR                              Date: 11/05/93  7:04a
Subj: Re: Trade                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mark Taylor to Kathy Murphy <=-

 KM> I have the following games I would like to trade for a CD ROM
 KM> encyclopedia.
 KM> Alone in the Dark
 KM> Willy Beamish
 KM> Curse of Enchantia (CD ROM)


 MT> Kathy, I have several versions of Encyclopedia's on CD...Which were
 MT> you looking for...I would be VERY intrested in swapping...

Well, what I am looking for is something useful for my kids for school. 
I don't have windows or anything so it would have to be used from dos.
Is the board your on capable of netmail? I would like to take this 
conversation to netmail. Could you tell me what versions you have and 
what one you are willing to trade?





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From: DAVID HAMM                             Number: 7049
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 11/06/93 10:03p
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Have Windows 93 and CICA Microsoft Windows for sale $17 each or 2 
 > for $30

What is Windows 93 and CICA Microsoft Windows?


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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 7050
  To: JOHN CALLICRATE                          Date: 11/07/93 12:28a
Subj: Re: EZ-SCSI ver 1.0                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting John Callicrate to All <=-

 JC> I have original disk & manual - EZ-SCSI Ver 1.0

 JC> $30.00 (this includes mailing it to you)

 JC> Call me at 503/623-4924 (evenings Pacific Time).

Is this the EZ-SCSI for Adaptec ??  If so, how old is this ??
 
... Voice: 919-870-6926 (eves/weekends)
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From: TOMCAT                                 Number: 7051
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/06/93  4:54p
Subj: Cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BSR 6800MX external drive for sale. 600 msec, like new w/ card and manual, plus
drivers. $140.00 Voice (919) 365-9418 Tommy


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 7052
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/06/93 10:26p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you are looking for great prices on the latest CD-Roms, give us a 
call or post your address, and we will be glad to send you our latest 
price list.  We also have a 44 page catalog complete with descriptions 
available for download from our support BBS.  The file name is 
CATALOG.ZIP for DOS Text and CATLOGWP.ZIP for Word Perfect format. 
We also have file lists for most popular shareware titles, and accept 
online orders using credit cards or COD.  Let me know if you have any 
questions.  We appreciate your business! 
 
Computer Works                                  Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
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From: BILL PEARSON                           Number: 7053
  To: TOM HUNT                                 Date: 11/07/93 10:10p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TH>I will take the chinon drive & cables from you, if you warranty no DOA 
Tom, since my original post I have found out that my wife is preganant 
and will need to quit work shortly. In my attempt to maintain my budget, 
I have been struggling with the question of weither or not to sell my 
drive and upgrade at this time. I find myself about $50 short of what I 
want to upgrade to and have decided to hold off for now, since my 
Chinnon offers almost all I need at this time. When I spoke to you on 
the phone this afternoon I had not yet made up my mind. I apoligize for 
any inconvienence This may have caused you. Thanks ............... Bill 
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From: JOHN CARROLL                           Number: 7054
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 11/06/93 11:14p
Subj: Re: Night Owl 10                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a Message From: Boris Osadciw  To: David Burke  Dated: 11-02-93 at: 01:15

BO--> ->> US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263
BO--> ->> Boris Osadciw

        Boris, do you have a catalog you can send me, just got a CD player and
need a source. I am looking for good current shareware Windows CD, using RA
software. Any suggestions, prices?

    John Carroll -SysOp-  Treasure Coast BBs  374/569

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From: JOHN CARROLL                           Number: 7055
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/06/93 11:19p
Subj: NEW CD-ROM TITLES!                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

In a Message From: Mike Shannon  To: All  Dated: 11-01-93 at: 23:29
MS-->            |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #1:  NEW CD

    Mike, how bout a catalog. Looking for good current Windows shareware Cd
for RA software with lots of files. If you can send me one or echo me one or
whatever.

               John Carroll 463 22nd place SE
                Vero Beach, Fl. 32962

Just got a CD and need a source for disks! Please!

    John Carroll -SysOp-  Treasure Coast BBs  374/569

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 7056
  To: MIKE SHEPARD                             Date: 11/07/93  6:33p
Subj: ???                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <10-29-93 23:42> Mike Shepard wrote:

MS>> had you not added it to the Busty Babes I might have considered
MS>> it..but alas I run a system where schools call and I'm known for not
MS>> having x-rated stuff. About all I can say now is DRATS!!!

Understand 100%--We are out of the shareware biz, and Im glad you enjoyed what
we did put out there once upon a time--

Thanks for all your support ! I hear Pier is a nice series...

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 7057
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 11/07/93  7:18p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Series                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <11-06-93 10:50> Max Green wrote:

MG>>   Hello Ms Lee.  I have been a fan of the Busty Babes Adult CDs since
MG>>   ordered my first copy of BB-I/3.

Thank-you for suporting us--We did the best we could with what we could get
during this CD world shake-up--There is so much I want to say but cannot at
this time--Just believe me when I tell you, the products to come will exceed
any current collections on the market--This will all make sense soon.

MG>>   like to offer my comments in a constructive manner.

Sure, why not--I don't have a glass chin :)--Just know, this disc was not to
allow us to float on a ship in the Caribbean, but more a means to get the
assassins off our back that are out for our blood--Just know, your support will
keep the Lions Den publishing alive, allow us to erradicate the maggots, and
bring the 10 disc deal for 1994 from Hollywood to the public.

Some day, I will write our memoirs of trials and tribulations, and you 'Sir',
were apart of our life line--Before the year ends, IM sure I will go public
with what I have been put through, and name the responsible parties.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 7058
  To: DAN WADE                                 Date: 11/07/93  7:39p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Volume II               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <11-05-93 15:21> Dan Wade wrote:

DW>>      As far as all the derogatory comments about Busty Babes II Mr.
DW>> Vangelder, didn't your partner used to work with the producer of
DW>> Busty Babes

Dan, thank-you for you comments, and yes, my ex-partner is now with Van Gelder,
and yes, they published the 'Southern Beauties' disc--and yes, they are out for
my blood--Ignore their posts like I have, thank them for all the lawsuits they
initiated and brought my way, enjoy BB II which started our new company
financially, and most of all, know your financial support has kept us alive to
bring you unbelievable collections beginning 1 Jan.

Ignore Van Gelder...anybody who has been around will see his post was meant to
be malicious and hateful---Personally, I was glad to see him make an _SS out of
himself--I just don't want this echo to turn into a war over who likes and
dislikes the disc--We got our images from the same broker, and BTW, those women
on Southern Beauties are not even Southern---

Enjoy both products, they are the beginning of the new CD market, and with any
new idea, the acceptance will be rough and bumpy--In time, they will improve
greatly--

Hang in there with us--We have only just begun to fight.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 7059
  To: JASON SACK                               Date: 11/07/93  7:43p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Volume II               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Bob Jackson <11-05-93 02:23> Jason Sack wrote:

JS>> Why are all the images of Busty Babes II so grainy?

They are not--You have to click to enlarge the pix from the page, or select and
area and run them thru the slide show--If you still have a problem, call the
Solana number who wrote the interface--The images are SVGA, and there is
obviously something wrong with the video config or something.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 7060
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 11/07/93  7:46p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES REVIEW                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bob, been away for a week playing in the LA fires--Thanks for the review--
Not disapointed at all, but I can't help what the photographers do with
amputees :)--Locked onto some neat stuff for 1994--Ya did fine !

And for anyone that reads this, Bob and I are not close friends, we have never
met, messaged publicly on occasion, and spoke voice for 5 minutes--

Keep plugging away Bob !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 7061
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 11/07/93  8:01p
Subj: Re: Busty babes ii review (7/           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Bob Jackson <11-04-93 13:23> Jerry Murphy wrote:

JM>> I agree it is a "first-rate" product.  I've not seen Southern
JM>> Beauties, nor do I especially care to.

Thanks for the support--Introducing change is the hardest thing to do, we are
no longer XXX publishers, and until the industry dries up with the old stuff,
the new stuff is going to take a beating--The new rules will eliminate the
authors that at one time could step up and bat with a few thousand
dollars--Now, getting licensed product is expensive and with limitations, until
we teach the photographers a little more about the online environment--We
thought we made major ground by getting Busty babes Vol II sysop
allowable--Now, we are working on other areas as well--and have succeeded for
our next 10 disc's--

We have a disc coming out 1 Jan, that are licensed images that all appeared in
various magazines (well known ones), doubt you will find any alpo :)

It takes time to find the image banks, and to work out the details--BB II was
the first, and each disc will get better and better--Some of the new image
disc's coming out in a few weeks only have 500 images and 200 images in
them--Back when we published works where we had NO money into the images, it
was easy to provide 4,000 pictures--Those days are over for most of us.

So 3 months from now, those that kicked BB II will realize, we were alot more
generous then most--The audience will always compare the grassroot disc's with
the new ones, and the grassroots ones were all magazine shots, and that same
expectation is being placed on us who deal with licensed collections--Can't all
be magazine quality--Finding those photographers who can provide us with
thousands of slides just to find 1,000 decent ones, are hard--We solved our
problem last week, and have a contract to publish 10 disc's in 1994 with some
fantastic beautiful famous ladies--We found those photographers--Took time, but
we are all set for 1994--Bare with us thru the growing pains, we will see who
leads the 1994 year.......

Without people like you, I would be all washed up. KUDOS !

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LARRY HUEGELE                          Number: 7062
  To: CHET HART                                Date: 11/06/93  9:53a
Subj: WANTER CD-ROM TITLES                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CH> LH>Excuse my stupidity, but what is an OEM version?
CH>
CH> OEM - Original Equipment Manufacturer. This refers to the
CH> company that
CH> actually manufactured a product instead of the company that
CH> sold the
CH> product. Good examples of this are the Panasonic CD-ROM drives.
CH> the
CH> actual company that makes them is Matsushita; Panasonic is a
CH> tradename
CH> for Matsu.

Oh, I see now.  Thanks for that info.  Now, can you tell me what different
types of CD-ROM drives there are out there?  Do you have to have a special
drive to view those new full-feature movies that they're comming out with?

TTYlaterz....


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From: LOU WILLIAMS                           Number: 7063
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 11/07/93  8:02a
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Greetings Folks, I have the Asian Ladies CD that I'd like to trade for
-> another adult CD, preferably Southern Beauties or American Girls (right
-> title ?).  I'll consider trades for other adult titles, prefer something
-> more "softcore" in nature, thanks.

-> ,\\ark

I I have PC-PIX vol 2. If interested mail yours to:
                                                    APA
                                                    P.O.Box 4033
                                                    Midway,WA
                                                    98032-0533
I will send it to you after inspection of yours.

TTYL
Lou








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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7064
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/08/93  2:06a
Subj: NOTICE                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

********************** I M P O R T A N T   N O T I C E *********************
If your planning on purchasing a Pioneer DRM600, you'd better do it soon
as these units have been discontinued !!
The only supplies available are those in stock at various dealers around
the country, Pioneer has no inventory on hand. So, once the current stock is
gone that will be the end of the DRM600 and so will the low prices.
There's no waiting til Christmas on this, so call and order your unit today
from your favorite dealer and save some $$.
Need further information, please call us at 216-225-3263 we'll be glad to
help.



Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7065
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/08/93  2:06a
Subj: NEW CATALOG                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=[ F R E E   C A T A L O G ]=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

The Current Copy Of Our Catalog Is Now Available For File Request Using
the Name " CCI.ZIP" or the Magic Name Of "CCI".
You may request the file from anyone of the systems below. If you're
not running a mailer, your welcome to visit these systems and download
it FREE.

  1:157/46  - 216-225-6130 US     or     1:388/20  - 817-756-7565 US


=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=[ This is Only The Begining ]=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7066
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/08/93  2:06a
Subj: HOT CD'S                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$  S U P E R   C D ' S  $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
     Mad Dog Mcgree      - $35.       Mantis              - $19.
     Day Of The Tentical - $39.       7th Guest           - $35.
     Return To Zork      - $49.       Journey Man Project - $49.
     Dinosaurs           - $25.       Eye Of The Beholder - $49.
     Sherlock Holmes III - $49.       Cybergenic Ranger   - $15.

                    FREE Catalog With Every Order !

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TEC/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

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From: G. LARRY WEBB                          Number: 7067
  To: ED FEINS                                 Date: 11/07/93 10:30a
Subj: MICROSOFT CD-ROMS FOR SALE              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll offer $61 + $4 shipping for all 4 CD ROMS....If interested post me here
with your address and/or phone; or call me in NC at 919 929 8761. Or COD to me
for $65 total (check OK) but please confirm via echo or phone. Thanks.....

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From: TOM ROSETTI                            Number: 7068
  To: FRED IRIZARRY                            Date: 11/07/93 10:06p
Subj: Sound Blaster PRO                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > For $100.00

I just paid $120 brand new.  Aren't you being a little optimistic?

Tom

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From: TOM ROSETTI                            Number: 7069
  To: TROY JOHNSON                             Date: 11/07/93 10:08p
Subj: XXX cd rom disk                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > This offer is good to anyone that wants to trade for
 > cd's

How 'bout straight up sale.  I'm tying to get hold of any of the Hot Pix's to
but on my BBS.

advTHANXance,
Tom

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From: BILL ENGLISH                           Number: 7070
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 11/05/93  8:09p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Mark!

Friday October 29 1993 17:07, Kevin Mcisaac wrote to Mark Clardy:

MC> Hello, Everyone!   I would like to tell you that Computer Works now
MC>    |has a new catalog of CD's.

Mark I would appreciate a Catalog also.

My address:

Bill English
NAESU PSC 477 Box 78
FPO AP 96306-2778

I hope you also ship to FPO address via US Mail?

Bill

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From: BILL ENGLISH                           Number: 7071
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 11/05/93 10:03p
Subj: Orders                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Boris!

I am Interested in getting the Pier 3, NightOwl 10, and So Much Shareware 3
from you.

where can I mail the Order and I think You said I could use Charge Card  Let Me
know.

Bill

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From: WM KUNKEL                              Number: 7072
  To: JEFF HUBERT                              Date: 11/07/93 10:22p
Subj: Cd- rom for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

thanx for the reply, I'm checking on a panisonic 2x speed drive for the
same price as soon as I hear back from that other person with what it
comes with , I let you know on what I decide.


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From: BRIAN SANDUSKY                         Number: 7073
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/07/93 10:53a
Subj: BUSTY BABES II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I was TOTALLY DISAPPOINTED in your NEW BUSTY BABES II CD-ROM disc.
I have Busty Babes I rel.1 and have been waiting for a long time
for a sequel to follow, when I saw that Busty Babes II was out I
was excited. Well after getting the disc and going over it with a
fine tooth comb I found that there was very few pictures on it that
I would call BUSTY BABES, most of pictures are nice looking women
but that is not what I was looking for when I purchased your disc.
I wanted to see BIG BREASTS like on BUSTY BABES I, even though it
contain about 50% of busty women on it & 50% being other images
that was ok, but BUSTY BABES II does not even match that it only
has 180 MEG of women on it of which 5%-10% might be considered
busty babes. You have more SHAREWARE on this disc then ADULT material.

I was reading a message in this echo that really disturbed me from
you the publisher of Busty Babes II it said......

"because we publishers feel (those with licensed collections) will
see the same disc price for 29.00 whether we put 1,000 or 4,000....
so why give 3,000 images away when we can make 3 more disc's"

and then another publisher wrote in reply to your statement....

"I for one do not want to produce a disc with 182M of images for
a selling price of even $ 10.00 !  I do not HYPE or even announce
a disc we are going to produce before it is to be released.
I can assure you, the buying public, that our discs will alway be
packed with at least 650+ Megs of images, unless the packaging
indicates otherwise!"

Lee.... sound like you have PUBLISHER GREED $$$ and are not being fair
to the buying public. Apparently there are publisher out there that do 
care about the buying public & you really don't seem to be one of them,
regardless of what you try to persuade prople into thinking.
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From: TIM PEETERS                            Number: 7074
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/08/93  2:08p
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

I have one slightly used NEC Intersect (Model CDR-72) external CD-ROM for sale.

It includes the SCSI card, cable, manuals and driver disk.  I believe it a
350ms drive, and its in excellent condition.  Asking price is $225.00.  I can
be reached at 725-8396.


SeeYa,
Tim

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From: BILL MATZKIW                           Number: 7075
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/07/93  6:34p
Subj: Day of Tentacle&7th Guest               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        I have Lucas Arts Day of The Tentacle and Virgin Games 7th Guest
for sale.  Both are on CD-ROM and both include all docs and oringinal
packaging.
        The Price for both of these is 35.00 EACH Shipped to your door.
Price is NON NEGOTIABLE!!!!!!!!!! NO TRADES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                           Bill Matzkiw
   or (619) 598-3359 after 4:30 PST


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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 7076
  To: DAVID HAMM                               Date: 11/08/93 11:20a
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello David!

Saturday November 06 1993, David Hamm writes to Pat Rickerson:

 >> Have Windows 93 and CICA Microsoft Windows for sale $17 each or 2
 >> for $30

 DH> What is Windows 93 and CICA Microsoft Windows?

Shareware, CD's

Pat

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From: JEFF HUBERT                            Number: 7077
  To: VINCENT WESSLING                         Date: 11/08/93  5:28p
Subj: Re: Cd- rom for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Are you sure about that?
Most of those PC makers include the older lu005s not the new FX001D.
Anyway, even if they do, you probly have to buy a system from them to get that
price.

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From: JOHN PIERCE                            Number: 7078
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/08/93  7:25p
Subj: CD-ROM BB for Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a copy of Busty Babes for sale, if anyone is interested!
I've had it for about 3 months, It's in brand new condition!

Best offer gets it ASAP!

Thanks,
John


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From: JOHN PIERCE                            Number: 7079
  To: KIM KLINE                                Date: 11/08/93  7:29p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> KP> $125.00
->
->    What stipulates the collectors version?  Just wondering how much t
-> that I have is worth.
-> Kim

Well I have the 2nd edition in NEW condition for sale! The only real
difference is that mine DOESN'T have the illegal 'Traci Lords' pics on
the CD, not to mention that I will gladly let it go for a mere $35.00.

The other files are on disk, but I won't tell you that!


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From: JOHN PIERCE                            Number: 7080
  To: TIM SCHOOLER                             Date: 11/08/93  7:48p
Subj: Encarta                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Must be something in your setup Geoff. I haven't had the first proble
-> superb reference work, and a hell of a deal at 99.00.

The only problem I've experienced, is that I usually run DV on my
system, and in general when going back and forth to the windows
environment, it's a good idea to re-boot and refresh the computer...
Other than that haven't noticed any major glitches in the Encarta 94'...
and even a better deal at $79.00 (Egg-head Software!)

John


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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7081
  To: BERNT MANSSON                            Date: 11/08/93  1:05a
Subj: Movies..                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I'm intrested in buying any CD-Rom that has anything remotly to do with
 > movies
 > and videos.
    We have place you on our mailing list and will also be calling you direct
with a file attach message of our cdlist.zip around midnight your time tonight.
    Joe Rinehart
    1:157/479
    config.sys, Inc.
    CD-ROM DISC sales dept.

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7082
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/08/93  1:27a
Subj: Amer. Software Pro's CD                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>                NEW RELEASE ASP ADVANTAGE BBS READY SPECIAL
        This release is so hot, it has limited availablity.  If you want this
Hot Release it'll cost $20.30!  If you are a sysop, we will grant a 10% Sysop
discount on any of our titles including this Flaming hot release!
Add $2.90 for shipping 2 lbs, 2nd day Express.
Make Checks payable to Carl Knorr or Joe Rinehart, $5.00 C.O.D. charge,
Visa/MC not available on discounted items:)
>CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 750 cd-rom disc titles available)
FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176 - WWIVNet 2@2659
Joe Rinehart                   Voice: (216) 296-9831
5400 Lakewood Rd.              Data/fax: (216) 296-GIGO(4446) ZyXEL 16.8
Ravenna, Ohio 44266-9565       INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7083
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/08/93  1:28a
Subj: A Free CD catalog                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> CD-ROM DRIVE OWNERS, or even if you don't own one, we have them....
    We just completed our November Issue of our CDLIST!  If you'd like a
printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
>   If you are a sysop & wish us to freq a copy at our expense, just ask!
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 750 cd-rom disc titles available)
FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176 - WWIVNet 2@2659
Joe Rinehart                   Voice: (216) 296-9831
P.O. Box 27                    Data/fax: (216) 296-GIGO(4446) ZyXEL 16.8
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001          >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7084
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/08/93  1:54a
Subj: OS2/Hobbes & Simtel 20                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>                          PROGRAMMERS ROM SPECIAL
             OS2/HOBBES CDROM....$13.05       SIMTEL 20....$13.05
        We are offering these programmers disc's at special prices. If you
are a sysop, we will grant a 10% Sysop discount on any of our titles
including these Flaming hot releases!
Add $2.90 for shipping 2 lbs, 2nd day Express.
Make Checks payable to Carl Knorr or Joe Rinehart, $5.00 C.O.D. charge,
Visa/MC not available on discounted items:)
>CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 750 cd-rom disc titles available)
FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176 - WWIVNet 2@2659
Joe Rinehart                   Voice: (216) 296-9831
5400 Lakewood Rd.              Data/fax: (216) 296-GIGO(4446) ZyXEL 16.8
Ravenna, Ohio 44266-9565       >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 7085
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 11/07/93 12:26p
Subj: Carmen San Diego for sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JJ>It's the CD and instruction booklet. It was bundled software

   How about $15 including shipping?

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ If your mind goes blank, remember to turn down the soun


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 7086
  To: ART MARKO                                Date: 11/07/93 12:29p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE - CHEAP!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AM>Kings Quest V..........................$19.00
AM>Carmen San Diego Deluxe................$20.00
AM>MacMillan Dictionary For Children......$20.00
AM>Cinemania '92..........................$19.00
AM>CorelDraw 3.0AB........................$38.00

   I would be interested in some of the above.
   Would you consider trades?
   Are there any manuals with the Corel? Is it two disks?

CD-ROMS for Sale

Q&A 4.0 from Symantec ..........................  $39
Magazine Rack ..................................  $15
Romware Vol 2 No 2 Windows .....................  $10
Sherlock Holmes on Disk ........................  $19
CD-ROM Premier .................................  $14
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $19
Toolworks US Atlas and Automap .................  $24
Toolworks World Atlas ..........................  $24
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $69
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $10
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $19

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 þ Don't count the days, make the days count.


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From: JOE KELLY                              Number: 7087
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/07/93 11:24a
Subj: Mitsumi 2x Spin                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I can get some mitsumi double spin drives:
280 ms access.
300k/sec transfer.
Includes 16-bit interface.
drivers for dos, os/2.
ONLY --->$210 Delivered! (These drives are new in the box!!!)
Give me a call if interested. Joe Kelly 407-273-8623.

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From: RICK SLOAN                             Number: 7088
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/07/93 11:07a
Subj: Windows Source on CD?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone know of Windows Visual Basic, Visual C, etc source
on CD?
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From: MATT PERRY                             Number: 7089
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/07/93  3:55p
Subj: snowboard for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am selling a 1993 Morrow free-pro 163 that has only seen snow once and is in
showroom ondition.  I payr(payed) $800 and i am selling it for $500 so anyone
interested please call me at (613)692-0648 for more information.


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From: TIM TROUTMAN                           Number: 7090
  To: SAM BECKWITH                             Date: 11/06/93 11:54a
Subj: Re: Cd-roms For Sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You have King's Quest VI on CD-Rom for $29.00.  I just might be interested in
that.  Let me know.
*****************************************************************************

    Tim Troutman

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From: KEN BANISTER                           Number: 7091
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 11/06/93 10:30p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Catalog!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in receiving your catalog.  Please send a copy to "16 Bearberry

Crescent N.W. Calgary Alberta Canada T3K 1R2". 


Thanks.

Ken

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From: KEN BANISTER                           Number: 7092
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/06/93 10:30p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM PRICE$ 1 of 3                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

I would like to get a catalog and find out if you ship to Canada.  My address
is
"16 Bearberry Crs. N.W. Calgary, Alberta Canada T3K 1R2."

Thanks,

Ken


... Nobody notices when things go right.
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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 7093
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 11/07/93  4:43a
Subj: T&A 2 The Maxx                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Blaine, you should have rec the T&A disc by now.
When can I expect my disc?
Thanks
Randy


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From: MIKE RUSSELL                           Number: 7094
  To: REX RODGERS                              Date: 11/07/93  3:22p
Subj: New Cd-Rom Changer                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > RE: New Cd-Rom Changer
 > BY: Mike Russell on Sat Sep 11 1993 03:32 pm

 >> For all you power Cd-Rom folks NSM Information Systems has released a 100 C
 > d
 >> changer the CDR-100Sc. Disk switching takes about 12 seconds the drive is S
 > c
 >> Sugested list is $6500.
 >>
 >> Mike Russell
 >>
 >> --- Spot 1.2a Unreg.
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 > I'm interested but would like more info on it.  Do you
 > have any thing you could
 > send me.
 >                     -= Rex =-

Nope sorry i saw it Byte and that is about all they daid about it. Guess you
will have to give Nsm a call.

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From: MIKE RUSSELL                           Number: 7095
  To: MIKE STEFFEN                             Date: 11/07/93  3:28p
Subj: Adult CD review wanted                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Any one purchased the adult CD's Deep Throat or Debbie
 > does Dallas?  Are these
 > actually the movies?  Or a bunch of scans?
 > And how about L.A. Strippers? It says in some listings
 > that this is an
 > interactive title.
 > Any information would be appreciated!

Hi Mike,
    I purchased Thaings change my first time and yes thay are the actual move
captued i guess with one of the video capture cards, although on my system a
486 sx/33 the play program causes a protection error #12. I have been trying to
get ahold of the creator at Pc Compnet but all i get is an answering machine
telling my to leave my info and they will get back to me (been a week now) if i
could find out what program it was created with i would try to find it.

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From: MIKE RUSSELL                           Number: 7096
  To: BERNT MANSSON                            Date: 11/07/93  3:32p
Subj: Movies..                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Hello!

 > I'm intrested in buying any CD-Rom that has anything
 > remotly to do with movies
 > and videos.

 > I have the "Cinemania '92" and "Video Movie Guide
 > 1993", is there any others
 > out ?? If so, who can ship to me in Sweden ??

 > Netmail to 2:201/506 or snailmail to:

 > Bernt Mansson
 > Linvagen 4
 > S-145 67 Norsborg
 > Sweden
 > +46 8 53177852


Try,

Info Business Inc.
887 Orem Blvd
Orem, UT. 84058-5009
1-800-221-1100

I have a cd called Mega Movie it has 50,000 movie reviews and goes back to the
early 1900's

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 7097
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/07/93 11:30a
Subj: Wild women                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bought Wild Women volume 1 and this disk is pretty good, it says bbs ready but
some of the gif's I've viewed I wouldn't be sure if they are legal or not. Is
there a Wild Women 2 out this disk says copyright 93 but they may produce them
faster then some.

                             Mike Harris

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From: AULTON WHITE                           Number: 7098
  To: VAUGHN DUMAS                             Date: 11/08/93  5:52p
Subj: Re: Adult CDs for sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Do you take credit cards at all or would you prefer a checque?
> Regards
> Vaughn
 At the present time I can only take check or Money Orders 

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From: ROBERT COULTHARD                       Number: 7099
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/07/93  9:59a
Subj: SONY D-A Converter                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WANTED
------

I need a SONY CDB904 D-A CONVERTER for a SONY CD-ROM DRIVE.

If you have one let me know what you want for it.

Rob 

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From: IAN SINGER                             Number: 7100
  To: PHILIP POLSTRA                           Date: 11/07/93  5:54p
Subj: VIRUS! in NightOwl-10 CD                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



PP>Nice to know that the guys who put out this CD don't care enough about their
PP>customers to even run a simple virus scan like MCAfee isn't it!

What makes you think that id Scan 108 detects a virus but Scan 107 and
F-Prot 2.09f do no that its really a virus?  McAfee does false alarm so
perhaps it might be a little better not to knock the producer for virus
scanning with what was current at the time.
 
Yes, I do sell Night Owls, and yes I will knock them for what I consider
to be a very poor job of the dirs on NOPv10.  I am now going through and
removing all * ! Last revision dates etc on my bbs copy, and converting
descriptions to lower case.  In my personal opinion there is no excuse
for a CD to ship in that condition. I am just as capable of collecting
from the same sources as them, but I would put the effort into getting
clean descriptions.
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From: JOHNNY LAI                             Number: 7101
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/07/93  6:20p
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello..
 
 Anyone suggest me whether a SONY-31B CD-ROM for $199 (inculding Tax) is a good
bargin or not? (No inteface card.. But will a SB pro card do the SCSI thing?)
 
 Thanks!
 
Regards..

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From: DAVE RYDER                             Number: 7102
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/07/93  6:50p
Subj: +++Catalog offer - Free                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


JR> We just completed our November Issue of our CDLIST!  If you'd like a
JR> printed copy, send your mailing information to us.

    Joe, I would like a copy.

    David Ryder
    1575 B-13 Military Rd #123
    Niagara Falls, NY
    14304


   David Ryder *  11-07-93   rn.1063@rose.com
   
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From: DAVID DOYLE                            Number: 7103
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 11/10/93  7:33a
Subj: NOTICE                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have been tring to get info on the Dmr600's for quite some time.. Can
you fill in the blanks and get me some info on these things.


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From: LEONARDO FONTES                        Number: 7104
  To: BRIAN KECK                               Date: 11/09/93 10:14p
Subj: GREETINGS                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BRIAN,
         I've sent you a check in the mail, along with a little added
    extra.  I have to Thank You, once again, I managed to get Qmodem
    up and running.  Fortunately.

         I hope you've received the envelope, if not, I hope you will
    get it soon.

         I seem to be at an U/L - D/L impass.
    I've D/L 10 files, and I don't know what I would have to interest
    this board for an U/L.  Anything you can think of, I'll see what I
    can do.


                                                 Thanks,
                                                           Len.


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 7105
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 11/10/93  9:36a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Series                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <11-08-93 12:47> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>>  LN> Some day, I will write our memoirs of trials and tribulations,

BJ>> This I want to read!

....and believe me I want to go public with it--Until then I can handle the
hate mail :).....if you only knew what its like to be a publisher in
1993--Different world then in 1992, and 1994 is gonna be even worse.

It's gonna take time for many to realize the shift in the CD market on the
adult side--There is only a handful of us doing this side, and well fortunately
or unfortunatley, we broke some product earlier then some, as our response to
the change in the rules--Many are only publishing 200-500 images, and thats all
that will be on their disc. It's a mess right now, and until the last of the
'Old' disc's dry up, this change in the industry to licensed collections are
going to meet with alot of resistance--

We are dealing to get 1500 images for the next disc. This disc has a
theme/twist never done before--The title is called, "Women On Wheels", watcha
think it is ? It's not XXX, we are out of that arena for good.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: CHET HART                              Number: 7106
  To: LARRY HUEGELE                            Date: 11/10/93 10:13a
Subj: WANTER CD-ROM TITLES                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LH>Oh, I see now. Thanks for that info. Now, can you tell me what different
LH>types of CD-ROM drives there are out there? Do you have to have a special
LH>drive to view those new full-feature movies that they're comming out with?

There are so many different type and manufacturers that I wouldn't have
enough space to list them all. Basicly there are single speed (150
kilobyte per second transfer rate), double speed (300kb), triple speed
(450kb) and quad speed (600kb) readers around. The speed difference is
the result of changing the speed of the disk rotation. Never try and
remove a moving disk from a tripple or quad speed drive... it could cut
a finger off.

Access time is another parameter of interest. Early machines had rates
as slow as 800 miliseconds while some of todays machines can boast as
little as 200ms and faster.

Basic rule of thumb... buy the reader that has the fastest transfer
rate, the lowest access time and fits into your budget. And remember
that your budget should include a 16-bit sound board and speakers as
todays CD-ROM readers are an integrated part of a multimedia system, not
just another drive.

PS: I'm staying away from the triple and quad speed drives for now as
they are very new to the industry and I never buy the first generation
of new technology (I wait for them to get the bugs out).

PSS: All movie CDs should come equiped with the reader software. So far
every one I have seen has.

73, Chet

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From: JOE KELLY                              Number: 7107
  To: BILL HALL                                Date: 11/10/93 12:58p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi 2x Spin                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The cdrom comes with a 16bit card. it will co-exist with a sb pro just fine.

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 7108
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 11/10/93 10:55a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES REVIEW                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <11-08-93 18:01> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>>  LN> review-- Not disapointed at all, but I can't help what the
BJ>>  LN> photographers do with amputees :)--

BJ>> No, but you don't have to include them on your CD, do you? That is to
BJ>> say, YOU get to choose the scans, don't you?

The first time around, "No" we had to deal with what we were given, and we were
sent slides in increments of 250 images--Because it was the first time these
people were working with us, they were uncomfortable releasing all the booty to
a company in another state--So we had to accept the images blind. But I
retaliated over alot of them, and they kept sending batches to pick thru, and
before you know it , they had sent 2,000 to get the 1,000--I really wanted to
eliminate about 50-75 more, but then I would have fell short of the 1,000, and
thee disc had to be ready by Comdex Nov--

Since it was our first experience with the photographers--We now, have been
given the chance to come and choose the images ourselves--Call it growing
pains, but now that we are established with them, we can select the material
and avoid the pitfalls from the rules placed upon us--

We landed a 10 disc deal for 1994--and these disc's aren't amatuer 'Annie'
stuff--and we are trying to get 1500 images vs 1000--

The disc film on BB II was misleading to mimic a shareware disc, because BB I
has been flagged for confiscation at all the international borders who scout
for XXX discs--Often times adult CD's are sent out of the country in the jewel
cases with NO covers which are sent another way--Had we put 'Busty Babes Vol
II' on the disc, the borders would have assumed it to be like BB I and would
confiscate it and the distributor would lose thousands of dollars.

Back when that is why we put BB I in cryptic form, because the dealer could
invoice it Barney Bear or something like that (just an example, not fact) for
the overseas market--So that is why BB II disc film was done so 'Brady'
like--They caught on to the BB I idea, and we had to go even more subtle.

As for the next discs--No more shareware--We thought it would be a nice
extra--Instead we will only have the images (refuse to duplicate them in
different rez like SB disc) and thats it, no stories, no nothing else.
A straight 1,000-1500 images or less if thats the way the collection comes for
what it is--Thats the way it is now, and as the new disc's break the market in
line with the quasi regulation, publishers (with the exception of 1), are
un-concerned with the old days of packing the disc with 4,000 images for 630MB
unless your willing to get into more amateur images. The photographers that
have any clout (the kind that sell to mags), are not going to give away 4,000
images when they know they can do a disc with as little as 200 (which several
are coming out with that amount)--So battling for 1,000 is great, and 1500 is
above and beyond. SO we are at the mercy of the photographers and what they are
willing to give us--For example, the SB disc, was from 5 years worth of work
from one photographer, and that disc about wiped out his whole library to
provide the 1,000 usable slides--5 years worth of his works !!! Profit levels
for publishers and distributors has nose dived into a small margins--We pay a
big chunk to the photographers, so it would be chaotic trying to publish 1
works with several photographers wanting and deserving that big chunk--If that
be the case, the price of CD's retail would quadruple, and the consumer has
adjusted to the affordability of the adult CD--The distribs would kick and
scream, and would reject the 4,000 image disc that costs then 3 fold more, and
they will take their money and buy the 200-1,000 image collections which would
be in their price range--So the publisher trying to fill a disc, will have no
buying demand from distribution, and the photographers will no longer work with
the CD publisher because they cannot turn numbers--....it goes on and on--

If you only knew the difficulty to find 1,000 publishable images, from one
source (to keep the wholesale prices low), and trying to be creative so that
you don't always put out more of the same type of product (i.e.-softcore models
nude)--and keeping it attractive for distribs to want to carry, and ensure your
overseas market can import it in--It's a *DAMN* thankless job with a peanuts
profit margin. Now, we have consideration for the interface and the licensing
right to drive the disc--So those that think that publishing is $1.35 disc, and
we publishers are fat cats, I welcome anyone into this profession--Our costs to
publish have tripled, and we actually have double digit costs into each disc,
and our company lives off a slim profit margin--Its gonna take publishing many
more disc's to survive as a company vs the need to do 3 disc's a year in the
grassroot days.

I am telling you this not from a pity me stand point, I'm telling you this from
insight and not hindsight--and what it takes to get a disc that will keep a
publisher out of court (infringement/obscenity) wise, still have appeal to
distributors, affordable to the consumer, risque but safe to export overseas,
protect sysops etc.....we are going to be a publisher for a long time, and
signed a deal for 10 discs x 5 years--So, we survived the shake-up, and can
play by the rules, and will have all 10 disc's a year with total variety so
that they don't compete against one another--So, its not going to be 'Just'
nude models over and over--Even have the 'Spice' factor covered-- It's a very
involved business now, and we publishers now have to manage our own scanning of
the images--which in the grassroot days, were done for us when we grabbed them
from BBS's--and the NEW cost factors keep mounting......we work our tails off
now, and with these new rules, not jsut anybody can step up and be a publisher
because they have $2,000 dollars--If they do, you can believe they are breaking
the laws and are at great risk--

Those that know the industry has shifted, and those that bought BB II gave us
the ability to handle the 10 disc a year contract "OUR" way--BB II did not make
*ME* a fat cat, it gave the ability to bring the next 3 out in Jan.

Any money that I would be enjoying are all going to lawyers, for disc's done in
the past, and the rest went into retainers to lock down the next 3 collections
to come--When my memoirs come out here, which they will, you will clearly see,
most anybody else would have walked away from the profession--But, I hung in
there, fought hard, so that I could bring to market, adult entertainment...raw
images to finished product--Not like the old days where, sysops would give you
tapes of material ready to go--

Being under the microscope, and destined to pioneer, I will take all the
resistance there is, and I will not go hiding in the woodwork--But you of all
people who review disc's, will certainly see the new products as a distinct
change--I didn't make the rules, and I did not change the industry--I took the
fall from the grassroot days, and Im gonna come out on top in the new industry
standards--

So, Im not out to convinve anyone of anything--Be skeptical, keep the hate mail
coming, kick and scream, complain and be indignant, hit me in the chin,
belittle what I stand for, do as you all please--In time, you will all know
what I am trying to say here and what I am doing to salvage an industry reaking
of lawsuits and paranoia---

Hope you save this message, Bob--It too will have nostalgic value in 1994.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 7109
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 11/10/93 11:12a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Series                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <11-08-93 18:12> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> That's almost 1 a month! Do you forsee releases at regular intervals
BJ>> or will they come in batches? (e.g. a set of 3)

We hope to have the first 2 out by early Jan, and the 3rd one out by Late Jan,
and then we will do about 1 a month--

Scanning and sorting the images takes forever--But, we have the staff to handle
this firt batch release--Then it will be steady work thru-out the year which
will make for a release about 1 a month--At the end of 1994, I want you to pull
out my messages written Nov 93, and reminisce.

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 7110
  To: CHARLIE PARKER                           Date: 11/10/93 11:30a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to David Doyle <11-08-93 22:47> Charlie Parker wrote:

CP>>     How do you tell if it is rev. 1.
CP>>   On the midlle of my cd it says BB VOL.1NO.1

Open the case, and if the disc reads, "Graphic Software" on the label, then you
have Release 1.0--Otherwise you have the later versions 2.0 or 3.0

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: DAVID DOYLE                            Number: 7111
  To: CHARLIE PARKER                           Date: 11/10/93  6:44p
Subj: BUSTY BABES 1                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Busty Babes Rev. One has a few differences on the cover of the CD.
you will see BB at the top in SILVER and on the left side opposite the
ISO 9660 is a RED BAM-BAM Ltd. girl dragging a guy. and says Graphic
Software in red at the bottom...
->     How do you tell if it is rev. 1.
->   On the midlle of my cd it says BB VOL.1NO.1
->
->    Is That Vol. 1 Rev 1?
-> It would be different for me to have something that is a collectors i
->
->
->   Please let me know, and how you found out that it was a collectors


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From: RENE WEBER                             Number: 7112
  To: JEFF HUBERT                              Date: 11/09/93  8:44p
Subj: Re: Cd roms                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JH>The drives are BRAND NEW (never opened) and there specs are:
JH>300k transfer rate! (double speed)
JH>280ms access time
JH>Photo-cd compatibe, and MPC compatible too!
JH>New Automatic open/close door!

JH>ACT FAST, as these drives are priced at a low $230.00
JH>plus shipping and there are LIMITED QUANTITIES!!
JH>CALL (410) 442-2726 NOW!

I don't suppose you have any externals, do you?

 * SLMR 2.1a * "My name is Inigo Montoya. You stole my tagline. . . "


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From: ERIC LUZUM                             Number: 7113
  To: JOHN PIERCE                              Date: 11/10/93 11:09p
Subj: CD-ROM BB for Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

i saw that you solicitied a potential customer by explaining the differences
between bb1 r1 and bb1 r2.  I'm interested in this cd and cannot afford the
collectors version.  could you explain the difference between r2 and r3.  i saw
an add for r3 for $22 and your asking $35 so there must be a difference.  
                                 eric luzum
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From: LAWRENCE MINTZ                         Number: 7114
  To: FREDERICK A. BURGESS                     Date: 11/10/93 11:37p
Subj: DOS 6.2                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > *** Quoting Jeff Jenkins to All dated 11-05-93 ***
 >> just want to let evryone know DOS 6.2 is out!!
 >> it has a CD-ROM cache in SMARTDRV.SYS now!
 >> also MSCDEX 2.23 !!!  get it now only 10.00 at any computer store!


 > 10 bucks?  Not a bad deal .. shame that CompuUSA is
 > charging 49.95 for it.

I bought the upgrade from CompUSA for $9.49 plus tax.  There are three
different upgrades available for MS-DOS 6.2.  For a retail price of $9.95, you
get a version which is ONLY good for upgrading MS-DOS 6.0 to 6.2.  Then, for
$77.95 retail, you can either buy the official MS-DOS 6.2 upgrade with
MicroSoft's manuals which will upgrade ANY previous version of MS or PC-DOS to
6.2 or a copy of the book "MS-DOS 6.2 Upgrade for Dummies" which includes a
copy of the same disks but doesn't include the MicroSoft manuals for MS-DOS
6.2.

What you got, at $49.95, is the official MS-DOS upgrade to 6.2 from ANY
previous version of MS or PC-DOS. My CompUSA had BOTH this and the cheaper
upgrade for those who already had MS-DOS 6.0.  They did not have the "MS-DOS
6.2 Upgrade for Dummies" version, which I found at a local B. Dalton's book
store.

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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 7115
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/10/93 10:12p
Subj: MIKEY                                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hi Mike

 > .\\ike

 > ---
 > * The magic of Windoze: Turning a 486 into an XT.

I have this 486-50 I keep trying to turn in to an xt do you have any new       
   " WINDOZE " cd-rom disc   (-:

..Red..

You should have me in your dbase some where....(-:

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 7116
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/11/93  7:24p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES II                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <09 Nov 93  15:38:00>, Lee Noga (1:3618/23) writes:

 >the same arena--Definition of Busty is in the eyes of the beholder, and 
 >Vol III, will be all those grotesque bazooka babes, which will be a turn 
 >off to many as well as heavenly to others--just as BB II.
What are you trying to say here Lee? Is Volume III going to be full of 44DDD's 
and the like (a freak show in my opinion) or more of the moderate to ample 
sized breasts like Volume II was (beautifully proportioned in my opinion). I 
personally am not a boob guy (weaned from them close to 39 years ago), I 
prefer the type of woman in BBII, you have my vote (you knew that didn't ya).


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From: VINCENT WESSLING                       Number: 7117
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 11/09/93  9:10p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM GOOD DEAL!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Jim Coyle <=-

 >Well, I think I saw it new for $169

 BF> 350ms Mitsumi LU005 is widely available at that price - lowest I've
 BF> seen them new to date is $149 at a Computer show in Detroit last
 BF> Saturday.... 

A better deal might be the Mitsumi double spin for 195 from ZEOS.  I ordered 
mine this week.

Vincent


... If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7118
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/10/93 12:12p
Subj: BUSTY BABES III                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Lee Noga was saying to Brian Sandusky on the subject of Re: BUSTY BABES II ...
 LN> and the licensed collections are NOT the same arena--Definition of
 LN> Busty is in the eyes of the beholder, and Vol III, will be all those
                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 LN> grotesque bazooka babes, which will be a turn off to many as well
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oh, dear!  If you means basketball-sized and larger, well... :(

 LN> heavenly to others--just as BB II.
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I suppose that's true. To me, anything more than a handful is a waste.
(But then I have rather large hands..((:> ).


... QWK? I don't need no stinkin' QWK packet!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7119
  To: THOMAS WAGNER                            Date: 11/10/93 12:34p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Volume II               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thomas Wagner was saying to Lee Noga on the subject of Re: Busty Babes Volume I

 TW> reveiw that I read stated there are only 383 GIF's (not the 1000 stated
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! There actually 1001 GIFs on BBV2. Even in hex it'd
be 3E9!!

 TW> on the cover) done by 17 different models. Where is the truth in your
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
There's no explicit model count given on the packaging.

 TW> advertising. I returned  my CD right after I read the reveiws,
 TW> unopened. I am still looking for busty babes vol 1 #1. I will never buy
 TW> another adult CD based on the name. I'll wait and read what other
 TW> people say about it first.
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What "reviews" did you read then? Doesn't sound like you read mine which
(in the aggregate) was 480 lines long. Whether the women are "busty" or
not is too subjective a topic for open debate. Lee *DID SAY* in a
previous post IN THIS ECHO that there were *NO* "150ZZZ" (as she put it)
ladies on BBV2.

As Lee and I have both stated, we are *NOT* close friends, only "echo
aquaintances". I have no business interest in BBV2 or any of her OR
ANYBODY ELSE'S CD products. So when I say I'm getting a little tired of
the rap that BBV2 is taking for not being "busty", you can trust that I
have no hidden axe to grind.

As to titles, what would you expect from "PGG1" or "Digital Dreams" or
"Southern Beauties", for that matter. Would you be upset if all the
women in SB turned out no to be from the "south"? Not ALL of the women
on BB #1 were huge-breasted either.

I didn't like the "mixed identity" of GIFs and shareware either, but if
you compare melons-to-melons (pun intentional) on BBV2 you get 1001
ORIGINAL NEVER-SEEN-BEFORE scans. Compare those numbers to most ANY
single "grassroots" CD and try to do much better UNLESS it's the only CD
you own.

To me, BBV2 has it's faults (see my review for details) IMO, but to
fault it for not being all things to all people is unfair.

... "Transporter chief Wagner, beam the landing party to the bridge"
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7120
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 11/10/93 12:36p
Subj: FIDO Message Length                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ron Dwight was saying to Brice Fleckenstein on the subject of CD-ROM PRICE LIST
 RD> There is also a technical limit to the size of messages
 RD> which 'should' be carried on Fidonet.  I don't rememebr the number but
 RD> something like 8Kb comes to mind.  Many message handlers will do
 RD> better than this, but if your messages are passing through a system
 RD> which won't, then "Poof" and they get truncated.  I hope this helps

I wish I'd known this before I tried to send out my BBV2 review as a
single post!! Even ZIPped, it was 11+ Kb. No wonder it got truncated (or
dropped). Thanks for the info!

... Never argue with a skunk, mule, female, or a Sysop!
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From: ADRIAN VERGOT                          Number: 7121
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/06/93  2:00a
Subj: Custom CD-ROM $75 !                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM? 
 
CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your proprietary DOS or Windows
files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and Affordable.
All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information
(600+ Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (other
formats considered on a case by case basis) and we will directly
transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any
ISO compliant CD-ROM drive (just about every one made today!)
 
- Confidentiality is assured
- $75 per CD-ROM (mention this add)
- additional copies only $50 each
- Turn around time is about 2 days
- BBS Sysops call for rates
- We accept money orders and cashiers checks
- Pesonal Check orders will be shipped when check clears bank
 
If interested, call (412) 942-4694 and ask for Adrian 
Auto Fax (412) 942-4694
 
CD ROM Creations
108 Shady Lane
McMurray, PA  15317
 
Enclose a signed copy of the following disclaimer with your order:
 
DUE TO THE BULK NATURE OF THIS SERVICE, CD-ROM CREATIONS (c) DOES
NOT AND CAN NOT CENSOR AND DETERMINE THE NATURE OF THE MATERIEL
THAT THE CUSTOMER IS PROVIDING.  IT IS THEREFORE THE SOLE
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER TO ENSURE THAT NO COPYRIGHT
VIOLATIONS EXIST IN PLACING THE DATA ONTO CD-ROM
                      Signed ______________________________
                                     Your Signature

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From: ADRIAN VERGOT                          Number: 7122
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/08/93  7:43p
Subj: Custom CD-ROM $75 !                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM? 
 
CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your proprietary DOS or Windows
files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and Affordable.
All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information
(600+ Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (other
formats considered on a case by case basis) and we will directly
transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any
ISO compliant CD-ROM drive (just about every one made today!)
 
- Confidentiality is assured
- $75 per CD-ROM (mention this add)
- additional copies only $50 each
- Turn around time is about 2 days
- BBS Sysops call for rates
- We accept money orders and cashiers checks
- Pesonal Check orders will be shipped when check clears bank
 
If interested, call (412) 942-4694 and ask for Adrian 
Auto Fax (412) 942-4694
 
CD ROM Creations
108 Shady Lane
McMurray, PA  15317
 
Enclose a signed copy of the following disclaimer with your order:
 
DUE TO THE BULK NATURE OF THIS SERVICE, CD-ROM CREATIONS (c) DOES
NOT AND CAN NOT CENSOR AND DETERMINE THE NATURE OF THE MATERIEL
THAT THE CUSTOMER IS PROVIDING.  IT IS THEREFORE THE SOLE
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER TO ENSURE THAT NO COPYRIGHT
VIOLATIONS EXIST IN PLACING THE DATA ONTO CD-ROM
                      Signed ______________________________
                                     Your Signature

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From: KEN TULLY                              Number: 7123
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 11/10/93  9:06a
Subj: Busty Babes Volume II                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DV> I have just seen the Busty Babes II disc.  In my opinion,
 DV> it has the most misleading packaging and I feel that you
 DV> deserve to know the truth.  I was looking forward to
 DV> seeing the disc and the production value Ms. Noga would

I have been reading some of the BS in this Echo, and have held my breath for
many times.  First of all, I am proud to admit that I am a friend of Lee's and
in many cases, she has been my mentor in business.  I have found her to be
straight forward, honest and most of all a good friend.  I am not going to
bother to quote everthing you said in this message for brevity.  I will just
let you know of my stand.

     First of all, I am one of the silent distributors of CD Roms.  I carry
over 80 titles in quantities of from 30 to 500 deep per title.  I am concidered
a "Serious Comptetor" in distribution.  (I know I'll be attacked for that
statement, by the weak minded).  I try to remain friends with all, and not
raise waves, but this message from you has ruffled my feathers.

     First of all, A Comptetitor should NEVER slam anothers product, right,
wrong or Indifferent.
     Second of all, you have no room to talk, your disk has TONS of duplication
with 24 Bit files that are also there in 8 bit.
     Third, are you, or are you (And your Partners, Who I believe Blaine is
one.), not in the middle of a law suite dealing with Lee.  Sounds like their is
a personal vendetta here???
     Fourth, Let "He who is without sin cast the first stone."  Let me know how
things are going in 30 days or so.  I think the worm may squirm.

     Fifth, and most importantly, let those that are UNBIASED, and QUALIFIED do
the reviews here.

Lastly, Busty 2 will live or die on it's own merits, not by the squealing of a
jealous comptetor.  If you would like to reply, feel free to do so.  I can be
reached at 203-387-3174 or Fax at 203-387-3306 BBS at 203-387-3289 or Fido Node
# 141/815.  Or if you want to make an issue of it you can reply here.  But with
what I know, you may be embarrased.  Sometimes it is best to let sleeping dogs
lie.

                                Ken Tully KL Systems.

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From: FRED IRIZARRY                          Number: 7124
  To: TOM ROSETTI                              Date: 11/10/93  1:22p
Subj: Sound Blaster PRO                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Yes I am!
So if you bought it from me you would have saved $20
Enough to pay for 5 gallons of GAS.

                            Thanks for Telling me thow
                                fReD iRiZaRrY

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From: MIKE RUSSELL                           Number: 7125
  To: CHARLIE PARKER                           Date: 11/10/93  6:51p
Subj: Won't Run                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >    Yes I purchased the movie also and could not get it
 > to run either. I finally had to load the player and
 > play the 4 sceens seperate. Good but would be better
 > for me when I get a faster cd. I am looking at the new
 > NEC 3Xi. It is a triple spin which should make it run
 > smoother.

Thanks for the reply Charlie, what player program did you use? The one on the
disk says it is missing a file and that is where i think the problem is from.

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From: WM KUNKEL                              Number: 7126
  To: JEFF HUBERT                              Date: 11/10/93 10:15p
Subj: Re: cd- rom for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

thanx for getting back to me, I'll keep that info in mind.


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From: TOMMY EVANS                            Number: 7127
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/10/93 10:45p
Subj: WANTED*  internal CDROM SCSI!           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WANTED!  I'm looking for the following, and am willing to pay cash.

    5.25" HH internal SCSI Cd-ROM drive... 

Installing in a Macintosh, so it cannot have a flip down dust door (ie: NEC's
74)... BUT- will entertain offer's on ANY SCSI model...

If you have one for sale, cheap.. let me know.

817/654-1539...
if at all possible, please call me, since I donot get the chance to check for
mail often...

817/6541539 or 1-800-210-6272

Thanks,
tom


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 7128
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/10/93  6:41p
Subj: CDROM Drive $135                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For Sale:

Mitsumi LU005-S CD-ROM drive.

        350ms access time,
        150-175k/sec transfer rate,
        Meets MPC multi-media specifications,
        B type serial number indicates Kodak Photo-CD
         multi-session compatability,
        Internal half-height,
        Doesn't require caddies for the discs,
        Controller card w/stereo outputs
          (5 IRQs and 3 DMAs for maximum flexibility),
        Drive cable,
        Software drivers on 5.25" and 3.5" floppy disks,
        4 pin audio cable for soundcard connection
          (currently configured for Soundblaster),
        Installation manual,
        Original carton and packing material,

        All in as-new condition!   $135.

Reply in this place, netmail/e-mail, or voice 415-647-2881.

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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 7129
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 11/09/93  8:41a
Subj: Re: universal interface                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Bob Jackson to Sysop <=- 
 
 -=> Quoting Dave Perkovich to All <=- 
  
 DP> Damar Enterprises is looking for Beta testers for its unique 
 DP> Windows-based  Graphical User Interface.  THE UNIVERSAL INTERFACE is 
 DP> here! 
 
 BJ> Now THIS is an idea with real merit!! It's becoming a sore point with 
 BJ> me that all the cool end-user interfaces on CDs these days are 
 BJ> proprietary and incompatible with each other. I really hate having to 
 BJ> dedicate HDD space to each one, not to mention having to remember how 
 BJ> each one works. I've had an un-posted "editorial" rattling around in my 
 BJ> cranium for a few weeks now on this very topic. Thanks, Dave, for 
 BJ> surfacing the issue AND doing something about it! 
 
 BJ> The story is just as sad for image CDs. I for one think the GUI idea 
 BJ> is on the way in, like it or not. (The computing world just seems to be 
 BJ> moving away from text-based interfaces. For example, Apple getting 
 BJ> serious about licensing System 7 for x86 platforms.) For image CDs, 
 BJ> there are at least four popular programs out there that will create 
 BJ> the so-called "thumbnail" images in a visual catalog for 
 BJ> point-and-click access. The problem is, again, they're all incompatible 
 BJ> with each other. Since the catalog pages are themselves (usually) GIF 
 BJ> images which use the 89a standard (I think) to keep the necessary 
 BJ> additional information needed to do P-A-C, a little cooperation on the 
 BJ> vendors' part would let users pick the GUI they liked best without 
 BJ> sacrificing what CD they could use it on. 
 
 BJ> Do you have any idea about how to approach those guys and get them 
 BJ> talking to one another about such a movement? 
 
Actually I don't.  If the other publishers are interested in working with me, 
I'd be more than happy to create a GIF-viewing program that would be compatible

with everyone's CD.  Currently, the UNIVERSAL INTERFACE will only work with 
shareware CD-ROMs.  BUT there is a solution I'm looking at for image viewing 
that should do the trick (work across all image CDs.)  Thing is, since Damar 
Enterprises does not publish image disks, we haven't started the development 
process.  Any image disk publishers out there want to get involved with this 
project?  A version of the UNIVERSAL INTERFACE for graphic images?  Let me know

via netmail and we can get to work on this... 
 
Hope to hear from folks! 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
The CD PowerBox Guys! 
 
  
... Damar Enterprises - Home of the shareware CD-boxes! 
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 7130
  To: RICK SLOAN                               Date: 11/09/93 10:31a
Subj: Re: Windows source on cd?               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Rick Sloan to All <=- 
 
 RS> Does anyone know of Windows Visual Basic, Visual C, etc source 
 RS> on CD? 
 
Damar Enterprises SourceBox CD will feature VB, C, and PASCAL (due date is
early 
1994 unfortunately...) 
 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
The CD PowerBox Guys! 
 
  
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 7131
  To: JOHN CARROLL                             Date: 11/09/93 10:33a
Subj: Re: night owl 10                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting John Carroll to Boris Osadciw <=- 
 
 JC> In a Message From: Boris Osadciw  To: David Burke  Dated: 11-02-93 
 JC> at: 01:15  
 BO--> ->> US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263 
 BO--> ->> Boris Osadciw 
 
 JC> Boris, do you have a catalog you can send me, just got a CD 
 JC> player and  need a source. I am looking for good current shareware 
 JC> Windows CD, using RA  software. Any suggestions, prices? 
 
Damar Enterprises has produced a Windows disk called the WinBox - be sure to
ask 
for Version 1.01 (there has been a fix for the interface introdcued with the 
latest version.)  600+ Megs of all kinds of Windows stuff! 
 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
The CD PowerBox Guys! 
 
  
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7132
  To: JOHN CARROLL                             Date: 11/10/93 10:07a
Subj: Re: Night Owl 10                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    In a Message From: Boris Osadciw  To: David Burke  Dated:
>>    11-02-93 at: 01:15

>>    BO--> ->> US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263
>>    BO--> ->> Boris Osadciw

>>            Boris, do you have a catalog you can send me, just got
>>     a CD player and need a source. I am looking for good current
>>     shareware Windows CD, using RA software. Any suggestions,
>>     prices?

On it's way John, look for it in your inbound mail area.

After you review it, give us a call and I'am sure we can help you
furhter.

Boris Osadciw

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From: DANIEL PARDUE                          Number: 7133
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/11/93 12:07p
Subj: catalog discount cd's                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >> CD-ROM DRIVE OWNERS, or even if you don't own one, we have them....
 >     We just completed our November Issue of our
 > CDLIST!  If you'd like a
 > printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
I would like a printed copy to:

Daniel Pardue
29 Melrose Dr.
Marrero, LA 70072

Thanks!

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From: MIKE SHEPARD                           Number: 7134
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/10/93  8:09p
Subj: ???                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> Understand 100%--We are out of the shareware biz, and 
 LN> Im glad you enjoyed what we did put out there once upon 
 LN> a time--

 LN> Thanks for all your support ! I hear Pier is a nice series...

 Hello Lee,
  I fully understand the direction you are  taking at this point. If in the
future you do publish another shareware disc I'll be one of the first in line
to get a copy. And yes I'm looking into funding the latest Pier disc, like
anything much better than those Owl's discs. 
 Now you take care and talk to you later...
   Mke

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 7135
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 11/11/93  2:50p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 07 Nov 93  21:34:52, I heard Greg Sterling shout to Kevin Plummer:

GS> KEVIN,
GS> I DON'T HAVE MUCH IN THE WAY OF COMPUTER EQUIPMENT.  ONLY A
GS> KP>2400 BAUD INTER
GS> MODEM.  HOW MUCH MONEY?
GS> GREG
GS> GS>
GS> 
GS> KP>Well, How about the modem, and $50.00 ??
GS> 
GS> 
GS> Kevin,
GS> We're getting close.  Is there anything else you might be willing to trade?
GS> If not, will you take $40.00 and the modem?
GS> I really want the CD.  I'm sure we can work some kind of deal.
GS> Greg

Okay, I will take $40.00 plus the Modem, If you Guarentee it against D.O.A. ??

                   Send Money Order and the Modem to:
Kevin Plummer
1355 Clore Drive
Martsinville,In  46151  Or Call: (317) 342-2034

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7136
  To: NINO FAGAN                               Date: 11/10/93 12:31a
Subj: Os2Box Report.                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NF>Os2Box Zip file dates:
NF>12/93- 41
NF>11/93-271
NF>10/93-194
NF>09/93-222
NF>08/93-  4
NF>Yet most files were actually older than the JUNE Hobbs CDRom!

Nino,

I thank you very much for your order, and I do appreciate your business,
so please don't take the following as a flame, because it isn't, but you've
made some inaccurate statements, which I feel need to be corrected.  Above,
you claim that "most" files from OS/2Box are older than June Hobbes.  Not
true.  Here is the comparison I just ran using Bob Neal's CD-ROM FILE DATE
ANALYZER:

HOBBES OS/2
-----------
1992  File   %    Apx 'K'    %        1993  File   %    Apx 'K'    %
====  ==== =====  ======== =====      ====  ==== =====  ======== =====
     1,270 50.7%   141,131 33.9%           1,220 48.8%   275,123 66.0%

OS2BOX
------
1992  File   %    Apx 'K'    %        1993  File   %    Apx 'K'    %
====  ==== =====  ======== =====      ====  ==== =====  ======== =====
       430 21.2%    28,011 10.0%           1,596 78.8%   253,332 90.0%

As you can see from this comparison, 78.8% of OS/2Box's files are dated
1993, vs. only 48.8% for Hobbes.  When using overall kilobytes as a
comparison it's 90% for OS/2Box vs. 66% for Hobbes, so your above
statement is false.

NF> Ten copies of Ray Gwynns' Sio driver !!!!  There are MANY programs
NF>that have multiple older versions.

Well, I ran a dupe comparison also, and here it is:

Analysis Created By: CD-Rom Duplicate Analyzer v1.3
Analysis: 11-09-1993 13:28:11

Total Files HOBBES:  2474
Total Files OS2BOX:  2009
Shared Duplicates:  904  CD1: ( 36.54%)  CD2: ( 44.99%)
Dupes within HOBBES:  96 ( 3.88%)
Dupes within OS2BOX:  74 ( 3.68%)

OS/2Box does contain 74 internal dupes, which amount to 3.68% of the
total files on the CD, but Hobbes actually has more, at 3.88%!

NF> Don't think I'll buy another Damar Enterprises disk!!!  Not to

I will continue to sell Damar's CD's, because they have always been a
favorite with my customers, and I believe they are well organized with
good attention to detail, not to mention a top-rate graphic user
interface, which Hobbes does not offer.  While NO CD is perfect in every
respect, Damar's come a lot closer than many others I've seen!  In
addition, they are virtually "plug-n-play" for most BBS's, while the
Walnut Creek CD's, (Hobbes included) require a little more "wrestling".

NF>mention that the total size of the disk is HALF the June Hobbs.

Again not true.  CDFDA reports approx. 416mb on Hobbes, and almost 300mb
on OS/2Box.  That is not half.  Furthermore, it has been Damar's intent
from the very beginning to offer a CD with ONLY version 2+ OS/2 shareware,
which is why it isn't full.  Hobbes contains many of the older version 1
files, which are all but useless to users of version 2.x.

I'm sorry if OS/2Box didn't fill the bill for you Nino, and feel free to
return it for another title if you so desire.  If you do however, it will
be the first one I've taken back out of over 400 sold!  I know I can't
please all the people all the time, but I think it is important to get
the facts straight anyway.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7137
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/10/93 12:31a
Subj: OS/2BOX vs. HOBBES                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For all who are interested, I just ran a comparison between OS/2Box and
Hobbes OS/2.  Here it is (in brief):

HOBBES OS/2
-----------
1992  File   %    Apx 'K'    %        1993  File   %    Apx 'K'    %
====  ==== =====  ======== =====      ====  ==== =====  ======== =====
     1,270 50.7%   141,131 33.9%           1,220 48.8%   275,123 66.0%

OS2BOX
------
1992  File   %    Apx 'K'    %        1993  File   %    Apx 'K'    %
====  ==== =====  ======== =====      ====  ==== =====  ======== =====
       430 21.2%    28,011 10.0%           1,596 78.8%   253,332 90.0%

Analysis Created By: CD-Rom Duplicate Analyzer v1.3
Analysis: 11-09-1993 13:28:11

Total Files HOBBES:  2474
Total Files OS2BOX:  2009
Shared Duplicates:  904  CD1: ( 36.54%)  CD2: ( 44.99%)
Dupes within HOBBES:  96 ( 3.88%)
Dupes within OS2BOX:  74 ( 3.68%)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7138
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/10/93 12:31a
Subj: OS/2BOX Now shipping!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |        Title:  OS/2BOX        |  |   Price:  $29   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

                            >>> IT'S HERE! <<<

     For those of you who have placed your pre-orders with us for this
     terrific new CD, and are waiting patiently, we thank you.  Due to
     production delays, the release was pushed back a couple of weeks,
     but the wait is over!  The newest and hottest OS/2 shareware CD
     on the world market is here!  All pre-orders are now being
     shipped, and we want to sincerely thank all our great customers for
     their patience.

     You all know about the great track record of Damar's previous
     releases:  CD-Winbox and CD-Powerbox.  Well, get ready OS/2 users,
     because the BEST and most RECENT OS/2 shareware CD is here! The
     demand for this new CD is VERY high so get your order in now!

     * Slick, mouse-driven graphic user interface for OS/2
     * Consists of 100% OS/2 2.0+ shareware applications. No old version
       1.x files
     * Fully BBS-ready
     * Approx. 300mb total

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

                 >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<
                 >>>     DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE      <<<

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7139
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 11/10/93 12:31a
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>MS>Who keeps putting you guys up to this??  I don't have any complaints,
it's
JL>  >just that I never see anyone asking the crowd about Boris, Doug, Jim, or
JL>  >any of the other dealers.  8)

JL>That's because they already KNOW we are reputable dealers!  YOU are the
JL>shady character! <Howl!>

                   Jim...

                   Computer Works
              "Reputable CD-Rom Sales!"

Oh yeah?  Then how come you keep buying from me??????  8) 8)

.\\ike...

Starvector Software
"Shady, and proud of it"

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7140
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 11/10/93 12:31a
Subj: So Much Shareware 1 Want                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>VL>     Anyone have a copy of SO MUCH SHAREWARE 1 for sale.  I'd like to
JL>  >complete my "library" of the SO MUCH series.  Please leave a message to
JL>  >me with the best way to contact you.  Thanks!

JL>Although I am a fan of the "So Much" series myself, I have done some
JL>testing which shows heavy duplication between each volume.  There are a
JL>lot of updated files in subsequent releases.  You may want to go for
JL>something different such as Software Vault Gold.

Too late Jim.....Victor already picked up my very last So Much 1!  I blew
the dust off 'er and sent 'er packin! <g>

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7141
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/10/93 12:31a
Subj: ???                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>Understand 100%--We are out of the shareware biz, and Im glad you enjoyed
wha
LN>we did put out there once upon a time--
LN>Thanks for all your support ! I hear Pier is a nice series...

You heard right Lee.  And now with the virus scare on Night Owl 10, plus
the company's uncertain future, Pier 3 has taken over as our #1 selling
CD-ROM, period.  (Followed closely by that pretty new blue thing from
L.D.I. 8)

Hey, thanks again for those flyers........got 'em last week.  Beautiful
job by your art department.  Hurry those new titles along, would ya???

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7142
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/10/93 12:31a
Subj: Busty Babes Series                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>Some day, I will write our memoirs of trials and tribulations, and you
'Sir',
LN>were apart of our life line--Before the year ends, IM sure I will go public
LN>with what I have been put through, and name the responsible parties.

Sounds like ideal material for a whole new CD!!

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7143
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 11/10/93 12:31a
Subj: CD DISCS FOR SALE                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF>>$12.50  John O'Conner Associates

BF>Which one? John O'Connor Associates has well over 20 discs out....

He's referring to his original shareware CD, which was simply labeled,
"John O'Conner Associates Shareware."

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7144
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/10/93 12:31a
Subj: CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

           ______________________________________________________
          |                                                      |
          |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #3:  CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS   |
          |______________________________________________________|

            We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
             - Cards are not processed until date of shipment -

 CD POWERBOX 2 * What's better and newer than NO10 or Pier 3? One guess.$29
 DREAM MACHINE * A "Virtual Valerie" for PC's! "Adaptive" Interaction!..$59
 PC-SIG 13 * Newest CD from the oldest shareware distributor............$33
 SOFTWARE VAULT GAMES COLLECTION * The NEWEST games + BBS-ready!........$26
 SOFTWARE VAULT WINDOWS COLLECTION * Full CD of all-93 Windows stuff!...$26

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 7145
  To: JOHN RUIZ                                Date: 11/10/93  6:36p
Subj: Re: $25 quote in question               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >        Hi Michael... Nice to see that you are around and making some
 >        noise.  Ismail Arslangiray from GROUPWARE, Tacoma is selling
 >        Night Owl #10 for $20.00 plus s/h $23.00 total. 1-800-373-0628.

Hello John...

Thanks for the info - that is a super price and I might go ahead and get it!

Michael

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From: JESSE SCHMELZER                        Number: 7146
  To: GREG JONES                               Date: 11/07/93  9:13p
Subj: Re: Pioneer Cdrom                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message on <31-Oct-93 16:58:59> Greg Jones (1:266/57) wrote:

 GJ> Re: Re: Pioneer Cdrom

 >> In a message on <20-Oct-93 07:28:01> John Anthony (1:3406/14) wrote:
 JA>>> I have a Pioneer Cdrom DRM-600A for sale, without cables 800.00
 JA>>> bucks Call bbs at 1-503-364-9998
 JA>>> --- WM v3.10/92-0531
 JA>>> * Origin: (OrEgOn SoFtWaRe CoNnEcTiOn) 1-503-364-9998  (1:3406/14)
 >> I'll give ya 400.00 for it. can get em new for 689.00

 GJ> Please tell me where you can get them for 689.00

 GJ> --- VFIDO 6.10.01
 GJ>  * Origin: The On A Hot Rock BBS (1:266/57)

I believe Doug Carpenter is selling these for that prg.

 Jesse

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From: KEVIN KIRKLAND                         Number: 7147
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/11/93 11:51p
Subj: SCSI Card Wanted                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I an looking for a affordable SCSI card that can handle SCSI-1
and SCSI-2 command sets AND will not mess with the IDE hard drives
that are allready installed in my system.  Im new to the SCSI world
so any any information on the subject would be welcome.  Thanks....

___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.10

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From: MARCIAL MORENO                         Number: 7148
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/11/93  4:10p
Subj: Cd-rom disc's for sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                              VISA / MASTER CARD
             ORDERS (800) MEGA-ROM / QUESTIONS (310) 941-8074

                                CD-ROM DISC's

                  Clipart Goliath ............... $21.00ea
                  Cookbook Heaven ............... $23.00ea
                  Font Master Vol I ............. $21.00ea
                  Font Master Vol II ............ $26.00ea
                  Games 1993 .................... $27.00ea
                  Games For DOS ................. $21.00ea
                  Gameware Collection............ $26.00ea
                  Nightowl 10 ................... $32.00ea
                  Phoenix Vol 4 ................. $20.00ea
                  Software Vault Vol 2........... $20.00ea
                  SoundWav I .................... $26.00ea
                  Shareware Studio III .......... $28.00ea
                  Windows 1993 .................. $27.00ea

                                 Adult CD's

                  Debbie Does Dallas ............ $38.00ea
                  Digital Dreams ................ $29.00ea
                  Deep Throat ................... $38.00ea
                  Extreme Delight ............... $28.00ea
                  Girls of Vivid Vol 2 .......... $39.00ea
                  Hacker Whacker Fun Pack ....... $24.00ea
                  Island Girls 3 in 1 CD ........ $23.00ea
                  Local Girls 3 in 1 CD ......... $23.00ea
                  Mystic Of The Orient .......... $39.00ea
                  Super Smutware Vol 2 .......... $27.00ea

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From: MING WU                                Number: 7149
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/11/93  4:28p
Subj: Cd-rom drive for sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If anybody out there wants a new internal CD-ROM drive, I have one. It's a
hitachi internal drive with a SCSI adaptor. I'm selling it for about $500
(actually between $400-$600--I'll have to check). It has never been opened. If
you or anybody you know wants the drive, let me know by the first or second
week of December.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7150
  To: BILL GEE                                 Date: 11/11/93  7:36a
Subj: BUSTY BABES REVIEW                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks, Bill. That's certainly my inclination. Frank Gresh seems to have a
handle on how to do shareware reviews and I'm content to let him do them. I
think the readers of this echo would prefer that there were more such reviews
and that they'd come a litle closer together. Shareware CDs seem to pop out
about every 90 days or so. Perhaps I seem more willing to do them (image
reviews, that is) ASAP after a new release (or whenever I get my hands on one I
haven't seen before) that folks keep asking me to do shareware as well. Cheers!


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From: IRA FELMAN                             Number: 7151
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/11/93 12:00a
Subj: SCSI CD-ROM QUESTION                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can anyone recommend a decent, around $200, SCSI,
CD-ROM for me? I would like to put several on one
controller. What do I do? Thanks!


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From: CRAIG KILGOUR                          Number: 7152
  To: EVERYONE                                 Date: 11/09/93 11:31a
Subj: Sell Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe R150  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Selling 
Secrect weapons of the LUFTWAFFE
Great game [CD]
R150
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 7153
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/12/93 12:53p
Subj: for sale                                Refer: NONE
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I have the following cd rom acessories for sale....

Call 205-824-2552

40 pin cables (3 connectors) work with IDE drives and Hitachi cd rom drives...
$1 each in quantity 10 or more.

40 wire flat ribbon cable $1 per foot -- 10 ft or more.

4 bay cases for internal, cd rom drives, floppy drives, tape backup units, etc.
 $20 each.

85 Watt 110/220v Power supplies for external cases $20

2 bay cases for internal cdrom drives   $10 each.

85 Watt 110v Power supplies  $10

Hitachi 3500 cd rom drives (need repair - have schematics )  $19 each

Y power splitters  $1  each in quantity 10 or more.

40 meg tape backup $99   DC 2000 tapes $10 each.  (save the good stuff from
your cd rom disc before you sell or trade them!)

Cream of the Crop II shareware cd rom disc  $29  (the newest shareware disc
available )

Limited quantities of the following shareware cd rom disc for $10 each: Up All
Night, Shareware Studio 2, Cream of the Crop 1.

MAC cd rom  disc:  INFO-MAC 10,000  MAC shareware programs. $100

4 -   1 meg SIMMS (9 chip)  80ns $40 each (may make your cd's run faster?)

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From: SCOTT WILLIS                           Number: 7154
  To: JEFF HUBERT                              Date: 11/11/93 10:17p
Subj: cd rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

can you still get the cd rom drives(is it photo comptible,double speed)for
around 224.00.if so i would be very interested.

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From: SLEDGEHAMMER                           Number: 7155
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/11/93 10:39a
Subj: SCSI CD-Roms Needed                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I need a cheap SCSI CD-ROM Drive!
I seem to mess everyone who is selling them.
i have the Interface and all, just need the drive.

HELP!

Thanx
John Boudreaux

The Experimental BBS                                           (904)375-7555
Not just the same old Shareware stuff!                   Sysop: SledgeHammer
Real-time Programming Support                            User Requested Subs 

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From: RAY GILLMAN                            Number: 7156
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 11/11/93  2:05a
Subj: Re: CD ROMs                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Actually I've been using the Mitsumi drive for some time now and find it is
quieter and has a "better feel" to it than the Panasonic.  Add to that
Panasonic's reputation for occassionally funky electronics all the way back
through the rough early Technics days and the Mitsumi is a clearly better deal
which I'm still making money on at $224!  But since I'm not a BIG dealer
figured I'd not cut in on Jeff's business (too busy to ship all those drives I
think) 

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From: RAY GILLMAN                            Number: 7157
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 11/11/93  2:07a
Subj: Re: cd content                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The Shareware disks do seem to have QUITE a bit of stuff on them don't they! 
The Shareware Vault Gold disk is over 590 meg of ZIP files!  Easily over a Gig
of stuff when extracted!

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From: RAY GILLMAN                            Number: 7158
  To: JASON TAYNOR                             Date: 11/11/93  2:19a
Subj: Re: Wanter CD-ROM Titles                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I've been wanting to play that 7th Guest and have a large group here who will
likely enjoy it as well.  If you will COD I'll buy it for that asking price of
$25 + 3 provided it does include video and Documentation as sold..
Ship to:
  Ray Gillman
  937 Plantation Dr.
  Lewisville, TX 75067

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7159
  To: MATT KRACHT                              Date: 11/12/93 12:18a
Subj: CD PRICES 2/3                           Refer: NONE
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MK>MS> Game Arena (New!).............13.00
MK>MS> Game Master...................20.00
MK>MS> Game Pack 2...................25.00
MK>MS> Games 1993....................25.00
MK>MS> Games Collection (Pre-orders).26.00
MK>MS> Gameware Collection...........24.00

MK>    Are these just shareware games?

All except Game Pack 2, which is a collection of commercial games.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7160
  To: GARY KIMBRELL                            Date: 11/12/93 12:18a
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
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GK> Do you have a current bundle special on right now?

Gary,

We have several good buys on bundled packages.  Here are some:

   1. Night Owl 7.0        2. Night Owl 8.0       3. Busty Babes vol 2
      Night Owl 8.0           Night Owl 9.0          Digital Dreams
      Night Owl 9.0           Night Owl 10           Amateur Models
      -------------           ------------           --------------
      $59                     $69                    $79


   4. Night Owl 9.0        5. Night Owl 10        6. Pier 2
      Night Owl 10.0          Pier 3                 Pier 3
      --------------          ------                 ------
      $49                     $59                    $49


   7. Software Vault 1     8. Empire Clipart      9. Night Owl 10
      Software Vault 2        Clipart Heaven         Pier 3
      Software Vault Gold     Ency. of Clipart       Software Vault Gold
      -------------------     ----------------       -------------------
      $57                     $59                    $79


  10. CD Winbox           11. Giga Games         12. OS/2Box
      Windows 93              Game Arena             Hobbes OS/2
      ----------              ----------             -----------
      $44                     $35                    $39


  13. Fantazia Fonts      14. OS/2Box           15. Shareware Online 1
      Fontmaster 2            CD Powerbox           Shareware Online 2
      Too Many Typefonts      CD Winbox             So Much Shareware 3
      ------------------      ---------             -------------------
      $49                     $49                   $69

If you're interested in any of these, give me a call!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7161
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/12/93 12:18a
Subj: NEW CD PRICE LIST 1/3                   Refer: NONE
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 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50
 20th Century Video Almanac....32.00    Mayo Clinic MPC...............26.00
 5-Star Premium Windows........27.00    Mega Clipart..................27.00
 7th Guest.....................39.00    Microsoft Bookshelf 1992 MPC..35.00
 9-Digit Zip Code Guide (New!).32.00    Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..49.00
 9000 Sounds (New!)............25.00    Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00
 Action Traveler (New!)........32.00    Microsoft Golf MPC (New!).....48.50
 Adventures in Heaven (New!)...19.00    Microsoft Musical Instruments.57.00
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...25.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........49.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........35.00    Middle East Diary.............35.00
 American Business Phonebk 91..17.00    MIDI Music Shop...............26.50
 American Business Phonebk 92..19.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50
 American Business Phonebk 93..25.00    Monarch Notes.................48.00
 Aminet Amiga..................15.00    Monster Media 93 vol 2 (New!).29.00
 Anecdotes 1...................14.50    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Anecdotes 2...................14.50    Mother of All Clipart.........15.00
 Anecdotes 3...................14.50    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......19.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....18.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....22.00    National Geographic Mammals...25.00
 Arizona Images (New!).........25.00    National Parks................24.50
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Newsweek Interactive (New!)...26.50
 Audubon's Birds...............23.00    Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Battle Chess..................25.00    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 8.0.................24.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........25.00    Night Owl 9.0.................25.00
 Beyond the Wall of Stars......24.50    Night Owl 10.0 (In Stock!)....29.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl 9/10 2-Pak..........49.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl Games (New!)........29.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl Graphics (New!).....29.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....13.00    North American Fax Book.......32.50
 Business Master...............20.00    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    OS/2Box (In Stock!)...........29.00
 California Collection.........17.00    Our Solar System..............13.00
 Canadian Shareware (New!).....19.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....27.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    PC-SIG 12.....................24.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-SIG 13 (Pre-orders)........33.00
 CD Powerbox ($6 w/ any order).15.00    PC-SIG Windows (New!).........19.00
 CD Winbox 1.01................25.00    PC Gameroom...................24.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    PC Karaoke w/ Microphone......68.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Pentomino.....................23.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Peter and the Wolf............25.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phoenix 4.0 (New!)............19.00
 Clipart Galore................22.50    Phonedisc USA.................69.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 2........................24.00
 Clipart Heaven................25.00    Pier 3 (In Stock!)............39.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00    Pier 2/3 Pak..................49.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    Pinacotheca Multimedia........24.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    Pixel Garden..................34.00
 Composer Quest................33.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency....89.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....64.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0.............15.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....64.00    Precision Mapping.............68.50
 Computer Reference Library....13.00    Prescription Drugs............27.00

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7162
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/12/93 12:18a
Subj: NEW CD PRICE LIST 2/3                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 Conan the Cimmerian...........29.00    Profiles of Colleges..........29.50
 Consumer Information Disc.....34.50    Project Gutenberg (New!)......22.00
 Cookbook Heaven...............23.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak.......... 98.00
 CorelDraw 3.0.................79.00    ProPhone 1993 Business........29.00
 Cybergenic Ranger.............19.50    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Dagger of Amon Ra.............32.00    Publish-It 2.0................25.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........35.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Day of the Tentacle (New!)....44.50    Publisher's Powerhouse (New!).29.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Q&A 4.0.......................39.00
 Desert Storm..................33.50    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Desktop Bookshop..............22.50    Reader's Library..............26.50
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Reel Clips....................25.00
 Dictionary of Living World....35.50    Reference Library.............24.50
 Dinosaur Adventure............33.00    Return to Zork (New!).........50.00
 Dinosaurs!....................34.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...37.00
 Dr. Games (New!)..............20.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
 Dr. Music (New!)..............20.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
 Dr. Shareware (New!)..........20.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
 Dr. Windows (New!)............20.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 DTPro.........................28.50    Shareware 1993 vol 2 (New!)...20.00
 Ecoquest......................29.50    Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......51.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Online 1............25.00
 Electronic Cookbook (New!)....29.00    Shareware Online 2 (New!).....29.00
 Electronic Home Library.......29.00    Shareware Overload............13.00
 Electronic Library of Art.....39.50    Shareware Studio 1............19.00
 Empire Clipart................19.50    Shareware Studio 2............23.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Shareware Studio 3 (New!).....25.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 European Monarchs.............35.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.00
 Family Doctor.................26.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...52.00
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......26.50    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...52.00
 Firearms Reference (New!).....24.00    Sights & Sounds...............22.50
 Font Master 1.................19.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Font Master 2.................28.00    Sleeping Beauty (New!)........25.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Screenware............27.50
 Fractunes (New!)..............30.00    So Much Shareware 2...........23.00
 Fresh Arte....................34.00    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....25.00
 Funny (New!)..................33.00    So Much Space (New!)..........24.00
 Game Arena....................13.00    Software Vault 1..............19.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....22.00
 Game Pack 2...................25.00    Software Vault Gold (New!)....25.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Sound Effects Library.........19.00
 Games Collection (Pre-orders).26.00    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Gameware Collection...........24.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.00    Soundware Collection..........24.00
 Gardening (New!)..............13.00    SoundWAV......................25.00
 GIF Galaxy (New!).............24.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 GIF's Galore (G-Rated)........16.50    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Giga Games (New!).............23.00    Space Quest IV................19.00
 Global Explorer...............85.00    Space Shuttle (New!)..........25.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Space Time and Art (New!).....34.50
 Grammy Awards.................36.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........29.50
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Stellar 7.....................19.50

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7163
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/12/93 12:18a
Subj: NEW CD PRICE LIST 3/3                   Refer: NONE
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 Great Wonders of the World....42.00    Straight from Heaven (New!)...19.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency 6.0 (New!).45.00    Street Atlas USA v2 (New!)....94.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...23.00    STW Illustrated Encyclopedia..34.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 93...29.00    STW Multimedia Encyclopedia...44.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    STW MPC Encyclopedia..........45.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Super Games For Windows.......10.00
 Hamware 1993..................23.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........35.50
 Health & Medical Directory....27.50    Talking Schoolhouse...........35.50
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Tech Arsenal (New!)...........22.00
 Hollywood the Bizarre (New!)..43.50    Technotools...................13.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..19.00
 Home Designer (New!)..........32.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Home/Business Legal Guide.....13.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Horror & Sci-Fi Films (New!)..43.50    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 House of Games................18.50    Timetable of Business/Politic.26.00
 Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.00
 Interactive Story Time 3......38.00    Total Baseball................25.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Total Heart by Mayo Clinic....49.00
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Trump Castle..................28.00
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....29.00    U.S./World Atlas MPC..........25.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........39.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................23.00
 Jets & Props..................28.50    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Jewel Cases....................1.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 Jokes & Pranks................13.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Wars: Civil War..........34.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............39.00    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 King's Quest V................20.00    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............34.00
 King's Quest VI (Retail Box)..39.00    U.S. Wars: WWII...............34.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    USA Today: The 90's (New!)....36.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........19.00    VGA Spectrum 1................13.00
 La Colleccion (Spanish S/W)...24.50    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 Lan Master (New!).............25.00    Visions of Saturn.............23.00
 Languages of the World........39.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Learning Adventure............13.00    Wildcat Gold..................27.50
 Learning Heaven (New!)........19.00    Win Platinum (New!)...........24.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Libris Britannia..............39.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 Linux (New!)..................29.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Loom..........................19.00    Windows Collection (New!).....26.00
 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...35.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Mac Shareware (New!)..........19.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 MacMillan Dictionary..........34.00    World Atlas MPC...............23.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mad Dog McCree (New!).........39.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    World Traveler................13.00
 Majestic Places...............38.50    World View....................24.00
 Manhole.......................34.50    World Vision 3-Pak............39.00
 Mantis........................24.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    X11R5/GNU.....................24.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7164
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/12/93 12:18a
Subj: "R"                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 November 1993        SOFTCORE ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST   Last update: 11/12
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
 Amateur Models (New!).........34.00    High Volume Nudes (New!)......36.50
 American Girls (New!).........34.00    L.A. Strippers (Movie)........49.00
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......29.00    Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......48.00    Photo Gallery (New!)..........34.00
 Digital Dreams................28.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......33.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Girls of Mardi Gras (New!)....43.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: GREG GILETTO                           Number: 7165
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/11/93  9:23p
Subj: Re: cd?                                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike, 
I was wondering if you have Library of the Future VERSION 2 ?? 
If so, how much including shipping costs to Greenville, NC. 
Also, this is my third message to you and still no catalog. 
Groupware sent me one and I didn't even ask THEM for one. 
 
Greg Giletto 
1699 Cumberland Place 
Greenville, NC 27858 
 
Thanx, 
 
Greg 
 
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From: MARGUERITE KENDALL                     Number: 7166
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/10/93 10:40p
Subj: CD_Rom's.                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Am in the market for a CD_Rom for my computer, as I want to start a board.
Can anyone give me a good idea as to what to look for and the such, like speed,
makes, model and the such.

Suggestions, are welcome.

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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 7167
  To: TEJ DHAWAN                               Date: 11/10/93  1:12p
Subj: CdRoms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to All, Tej Dhawan said:
TD> PCSIG 12th Edition               20
 
Is the PC-SIG 12 BBS ready?
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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 7168
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/10/93  1:28p
Subj: NEW CD-ROM RELEASES                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

We currently have Night Owl 10, Pier 3 and Software Vault Gold.  We are
looking to add another to our BBS.  Do you know of a good one that is BBS
ready?  We were looking at Phoenix v4.0 and PC-Sig v12, but I was told that
they are NOT BBS ready.
 
Hopefully the one you recommend will not have too many dupes with NO10, P3 &
SVG.  I thought I had read somewhere that NO10, P3 and SVG between them have
less than 1% dupes.  They seem to have more then that, so I may have misread
something somewhere.
 
Thanks in advance for your help!
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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 7169
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 11/10/93  1:33p
Subj: Night Owl 10                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We have Night Owl 10, Pier 3 and Software Vault Gold running on our BBS.  We
want to add another BBS ready CD.  Any suggestions? Hopefully the one you
suggest will not have to many dupes with NO10, P3 and SVG.
 
Thanks in advance for your help.
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From: JOHN BERGER                            Number: 7170
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/11/93  1:21p
Subj: encyclopedia                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone know of an encyclopedia disk that will work on my A570.. I
would like to get pictures, etc...


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From: JEFF HUBERT                            Number: 7171
  To: RENE WEBER                               Date: 11/12/93  3:17p
Subj: Re: Cd roms                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Nope, sorry. The external model is not a double speed and is almost a $100 more
than the internal. Don't ask me why, I know it sounds crazy but thats the price
shown for the external in most mail order ads (If they even have it all,
because it is fairly old and rarely sold by vendors)

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From: JEFF HUBERT                            Number: 7172
  To: SCOTT WILLIS                             Date: 11/12/93  3:19p
Subj: cd rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry, I sold all my drives (5). But other people have been willing to pay my
previous price and I still stand behind my price because I think it is a very
fair one. 

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From: JONATHAN MCGIRR                        Number: 7173
  To: IAN SINGER                               Date: 11/12/93  2:36p
Subj: Night Owl 10                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> JS>Boris   Need to check on Night Owl 10, there is a virus file in
-> JS>directory 20 (games/scenery)  SF2_UP.zip, it contains the memory l
->
->
-> May I suggest that before everyone slams the vendor they check their

Hmmmm....how about when the Vendor has already said that their are two
Viri on the disk?


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From: KIM KLINE                              Number: 7174
  To: JOHN PIERCE                              Date: 11/11/93  2:59p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: KIM KLINE                              Number: 7175
  To: JOHN PIERCE                              Date: 11/11/93  3:03p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > -> KP> $125.00
 > ->

 > Well I have the 2nd edition in NEW condition for sale! The
 > only real
 > difference is that mine DOESN'T have the illegal 'Traci
 > Lords' pics on
 > the CD, not to mention that I will gladly let it go for a
 > mere $35.00.

 > The other files are on disk, but I won't tell you that!


    
Ah, so the Traci Lords Gifs are the ones making Ver. one the collectors item. 
     I guess I need to try to sell mine, since it is a collectors item, and I
am not a collector.
    Anyone have any offers?
 Kim
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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 7176
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 11/11/93  5:19p
Subj: Magazines 3 of 3                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >>> ESSENCE                 10.80   STAR TREK THE NEXT GENERATION  17.33

 >> Can you give me some info on what this mag. entails besides the
 >> name which is obvious?

 > Sorry, can't subscribe to them all, though I am trying :).

 > Chris

Okay I never thought about you actually buying the mags themselves. I'll have
to look for a copy and see for myself. Thanks for the answer.

                               Mike Harris

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From: MARTIN YEE                             Number: 7177
  To: ED FEINS                                 Date: 11/09/93  8:54a
Subj: Microsoft cd-roms for sal               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EF>CD-ROMS For Sale:
EF> Microsoft Multimedia WORD for WINDOWS V2.0 including Microsoft
EF>    Bookshelf                                                     $25

Hi Ed,
   If this is the '93 edition, I'll take it if its still avaliable. Let
   me know where to send my check. Does it have the manuals...?

   I also have some stuff for trade if your interested -
   The Animals "The San Diego Zoo" MPC CDROM
   Arthurs Teacher Trouble MPC CDROM
   VCR Plus+ (VCR programmer - in new condition, never used)


Martin Yee
ph: 415 923-9893

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From: DANNY TONG                             Number: 7178
  To: BRIAN HIPPS                              Date: 11/10/93  6:11p
Subj: Test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BH> Test.

Hello.
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From: DANNY TONG                             Number: 7179
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/10/93  6:11p
Subj: S. beauties cd comment                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN> BTW, those women on Southern Beauties are not even Southern---

We're in a digital world.  Lets all cut and paste. <g>
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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 7180
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/12/93  6:23p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES REVIEW                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <10 Nov 93  10:55:00>, Lee Noga (1:3618/23) writes:

 >for a long time, and signed a deal for 10 discs x 5 years--So, we 
 >survived the shake-up, and can play by the rules, and will have all 10 
 >disc's a year with total variety so that they don't compete against one 
 >another--So, its not going to be 'Just' nude models over and over--Even 
 >have the 'Spice' factor covered-- 
Maybe I am missing something here but hasn't Playboy, Penthouse, Hustler mag
been in existance for years just selling nude models (oh yeah, every once in a 
while they even have a story I might read, and sometimes the letters are a 
hoot). But the main reason why I buy them and I am sure most of the males do, 
is the beautiful women "Just" nude,  maybe a little faked almost having sex 
scenes here and there. But mainly just for the beautiful women. I am glad you 
have plans for what you called "Spice" but don't over do it. 

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From: FABIAN GRAMER                          Number: 7181
  To: BRIAN HIPPS                              Date: 11/12/93 12:33a
Subj: 1994 encarta                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 11-0993 BRIAN HIPPS wrote to ALL...

 BH> OK, dealers who's got the best price on the 1994 Encarta. Have seen
 BH> $87
 BH> preorders. Let me know.

Just thought I'd add that Egghead carries it for $79 after CUE

... OFFLINE 1.50


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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 7182
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/09/93  5:03p
Subj: MAGAZINES 1 OF 3                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for a great price on magazine subscriptions? We have over 900 titles
to choose from, at or below normal subscription prices. To order, send a check
or money order, indicating which titles you want, to:

                                    C.S.S.
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AUDIO                           13.80   MICHIGAN OUT OF DOORS           16.50
AUDIO/VIDEO INTERIORS           13.77   MICKEY MOUSE MAGAZINE            6.80
AUDUBON                         16.68   MID-ATLANTIC COUNTY             12.60
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BACKPACKER                      15.53   MINNESOTA MONTHLY                9.72
BALTIMORE MAGAZINE              12.38   MIRABELLA                       13.80
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BETTER HOMES & GARDENS          11.14   MOTOR TREND                     10.97
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BICYCLE GUIDE                   11.77   MOTORHOME                       14.85
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BICYCLING PLUS MOUNTAIN BIKE    27.87   MOUNTAIN BIKE ACTION            17.48
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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 7183
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/09/93  5:03p
Subj: MAGAZINES 2 OF 3                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for a great price on magazine subscriptions? We have over 900 titles
to choose from, at or below normal subscription prices. To order, send a check
or money order, indicating which titles you want, to:

                                    C.S.S.
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                              Adrian, MI 49221

              Please allow 6 - 8 weeks before subscription begins.

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CHILDRENS PLAYMATE               9.71   PAGEANTRY MAGAZINE              14.36
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CHRISTIANITY TODAY              14.35   PARENTING                       10.95
CIRCLE TRACK                    14.37   PARENTS                         11.94
CIRCUS MAGAZINE                 11.55   PATCHWORK QUILTS                10.77
CLASSIC TOY TRAINS              19.20   PC                              27.00
CLEVELAND                       11.23   PC COMPUTING                    15.00
COBBLESTONE                     21.80   PC LAPTOP                       15.53
COIN PRICES                     15.34   PC MAGAZINE EN ESPANOL          26.44
COIN WORLD                      16.90   PC NOVICE                       18.96
COINAGE                         12.15   PC TODAY                        18.96
COINS MAGAZINE                  19.86   PC WORLD                        17.94
COLLECTIBLES                    16.00   PENNSYLVANIA SPORTSMAN, THE     11.18
COLLECTING TOYS                 19.20   PERSONNEL JOURNAL               53.63
COLLECTORS MART                 14.37   PETER CANNON - THUNDERBOLT      13.13
COLLECTORS NEWS                 11.70   PHILADELPHIA MAG                10.88
COLUMBIA JOURNALISM REVIEW      13.00   PHOENIX HOME/GARDEN             10.93
COMIC BOOK COLLECTOR            19.47   PHOTOGRAPHIC                    11.46
COMIC BUYERS GUIDE PRICE GUIDE  13.53   PLASTIC CANVAS & MORE            8.17
COMICS BUYER'S GUIDE            31.63   PLASTIC CANVAS WORLD             8.17
COMICS EXPRESS                  25.20   PLAY MAGAZINE                    9.30
COMICS INTERVIEW                25.20   POLICE ACADEMY                  10.35
COMICS RETAILER                 22.75   POLO                            18.00
COMICS REVUE                    31.50   POPULAR COMMUNICATIONS          12.90
COMICS SCENE                    12.14   POPULAR ELECTRONICS             13.72
COMMONWEAL                      36.48   POPULAR HOT RODDING             12.04
COMPENSATION & BENEFITS REVIEW  84.55   POPULAR PHOTOGRAPHY             10.80
COMPFLASH                       79.80   POPULAR SCIENCE                  8.50
COMPUTE                         10.97   POPULAR WOODWORKING             11.48
COMPUTER CRAFTS                 11.38   PORTABLE COMPUTING              10.56
COMPUTER GAME MONTHLY & CD-ROM  15.32   POWDER                          10.04
COMPUTER GAMING WORLD           24.08   POWER AND MOTOR YACHT           19.47
COMPUTER MONTHLY                10.21   PREMIERE                        11.50
COMPUTERWORLD                   44.40   PRESIDENT, THE                  92.15
CONNECTICUT                      9.53   PREVENTION MAGAZINE             12.48
CONSUMER REPORTS ON HEALTH      21.60   PRINT                           49.03
CONTEMPORARY CHRISTIAN MUSIC    12.47   PRISON LIFE                     13.47
COOKBOOK DIGEST                 13.13   PRIVATE PILOT                   15.58
COOKING LIGHT                    8.75   PRO FOOTBALL WEEKLY             37.13
CORVETTE FEVER                  12.78   PROGRESSIVE FARMER              10.10
COSMOPOLITAN                    24.34   PROGRESSIVE, THE                17.14
COSMOPOLITAN EN ESPANOL          7.03   PSYCHOLOGY TODAY                11.22
COUNTRY                         12.35   PUBLISH (COMPUTERS)             23.04
COUNTRY AMERICA                 11.96   QUALITY SERVICE UPDATE         118.75
COUNTRY HANDCRAFTS              11.67   QUICK & EASY CRAFT               8.30
COUNTRY HOME                    14.18   QUICK & EASY CROCHET            13.13
COUNTRY LIVING                  17.52   QUICK & EASY NEEDLECRAFT         9.71
COUNTRY MUSIC                   10.56   QUICK & EASY PLASTIC CANVAS      9.71
COUNTRY MUSIC CITY NEWS         13.20   QUICK & EASY QUILTING            6.32
COUNTRY SAMPLER                 18.16   QUILT WORLD                      8.36
COUNTRY SAMPLER'S WEST          18.16   QUILTERS NEWSLETTER             15.96
COUNTRY SONG ROUNDUP            13.75   QUILTING INTERNATIONAL          14.81
COUNTRY VICTORIAN ACCENTS       10.66   QUILTMAKER                      13.46
COUNTRY WOMAN                   13.16   RADIO CONTROLLED MODEL CARS     23.38
CRAFTING TODAY                  13.13   RAIL CLASSICS                   14.57
CRAFTS                          14.81   RAILFAN AND RAILROAD            20.28
CRAFTS & THINGS                 15.02   RAILROAD MODLE CRAFTSMAN        20.28
CRAFTWORKS FOR THE HOME         22.48   REAL PEOPLE                     13.13
CREATIVE CLASSROOM              13.23   REMINISCE                       11.67
CREATIVE KIDS                   16.50   RIDER                            9.00
CREATIVE QUILTING               13.13   RIP                             14.29
CREATIVE REAL ESTATE            30.48   RISK MANAGEMENT                 49.95
CREATIVE WOODWORKS & CRAFTS     13.13   ROAD & TRACK                    11.00
CRICKET                         23.09   ROAD RIDER                      12.98
CRISTINA LA REVISTA             15.12   ROBB REPORT                     51.03
CROCHET FANTASY                 17.50   ROCK & GEM                       8.72
CROCHET HOME                     9.71   ROD & CUSTOM                     8.37
CROCHET WORLD                    8.23   RODEO NEWS                      14.00
CROCHET WORLD SPECIALS           6.32   ROLLING STONE                   13.62
CROSS COUNTRY SKIER              7.46   RUNNERS WORLD                   15.00
CROSS STICH MAGAZINE             9.71   RUNNING TIMES                   15.59
CROSS STITCH & COUNTRY CRAFTS    9.35   RURAL BUILDER                   17.24
CROSS STITCH PLUS                8.17   SABER VER                       38.88
CROSS STITCH SAMPLER            12.72   SAIL                            16.63
CROSS STITCHER, THE             13.25   SAILING                         13.42
CRUISE TRAVEL                   11.03   SAILING WORLD                   15.60
CRUISES & TOURS                  6.22   SALTWATER SPORTSMAN             14.07
CRUISING WORLD                  14.40   SAN DIEGO HOME/GARDEN            5.95
CUSTOM BUILDER                  21.28   SAN DIEGO MAGAZINE.             13.48
CYCLE WORLD                     11.50   SASSY                            7.49
DAILY VARIETY                  125.78   SATELLITE TV WEEK               46.80
DANCE MAGAZINE                  26.50   SATURDAY EVENING POST            9.43
DAS LEBEN                        8.52   SCALE MODELER                   29.29
DAYTIME TV                      13.78   SCALE R/C MODELER               29.31
DBMS                            15.84   SCALE SHOP MODELER              21.86
DEALS ON WHEELS                  8.22   SCHOLASTIC COACH                10.77
DEATHSTROKE - THE TERMINATOR    16.80   SCHOOL EXECUTIVE                11.69
DEBATE ISSUES                    8.52   SCIENCE                        202.95
DECORATING DGST HOME/CRAFT PRJ  13.13   SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN             33.30
DECORATIVE ARTISTS WORKBOOK     12.54   SCREEN PRINTING                 36.08
DECORATIVE ARTS PAINTING        17.95   SCUBA DIVING (RODALE'S)          9.73
DECORATIVE WOODCRAFTS           16.23   SCUBA TIMES                      9.00
DEEP SKY                        11.55   SEA CLASSICS                    29.29
DEER & DEER HUNTING             16.24   SEARCH                          10.85
DELAWARE TODAY                  10.13   SEATTLE MAGAZINE                 6.22
DELL CHAMPION CROSSWORD PUZZLES  6.48   SELECT HOMES AND FOOD           13.14
DELL CHAMPION VARIETY PUZZLES    6.48   SENIOR HIGHLIGHTS               11.70
DELL CROSSWORD PUZZLES          10.38   SESAME STREET                   16.67
DELL CROSSWORDS & VARIETY PUZZL  5.18   SEVENTEEN                       10.20
DELL CROSSWORDS SPECIAL          6.48   SEW NEWS                        15.42
DELL HOROSCOPE                  12.98   SHAPE                           17.50
DELL LOGIC PUZZLES               8.43   SHOOTING INDUSTRY               20.63
DELL OFF PENCIL PUZZLES WORD GA  4.88   SHOOTING TIMES                  14.64
DELL OFFICIAL CROSSWORD PUZZLES  9.73   SHORT STORY INTERNATIONAL       17.52
DELL OFFICIAL WORD SEARCH PUZZL  4.53   SHOW BIZ NEWS & MODEL NEWS      14.40
DELL PENCIL PUZZLES & WORD GAME 10.38   SHOWBOATS                       13.20
DELL POCKET CROSSWORD PUZZLES    8.43   SIGNS OF THE TIMES              44.20
DELL WORD SEARCH PUZZLES         8.30   SIMPLY CROSS STITCH              9.71
DESSERTS MAGAZINE                6.42   SIMPSONS ILLUSTRATED             8.25
DETECTIVE COMICS                13.13   SKATEBOARDING                   13.66
DETROIT MONTHLY                 10.13   SKI                              6.56
DIABETES FORECAST               27.75   SKIING                           5.97
DIRECT RESPONSE SPECIALIST      49.60   SKIN DIVER                      12.61
DIRT BIKE                       16.61   SMALL BUSINESS REPORTS          90.65
DIRT RIDER                      11.96   SMART DADS                      13.65
DIRT WHEELS                     16.61   SMITHSONIAN                     20.35
DISCOVER                        18.72   SNOW COUNTRY                     8.03
DISNEY ADVENTURES               12.12   SNOW GOER                        7.68
DOG FANCY                       14.28   SNOWBOARDER                      9.26
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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 7184
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/09/93  5:04p
Subj: MAGAZINES 3 OF 3                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for a great price on magazine subscriptions? We have over 900 titles
to choose from, at or below normal subscription prices. To order, send a check
or money order, indicating which titles you want, to:

                                    C.S.S.
                             1526 Ramblewood Ct.
                              Adrian, MI 49221

              Please allow 6 - 8 weeks before subscription begins.

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ESSENCE                         10.80   STAR TREK THE NEXT GENERATION   17.33
EUROPE                          13.83   STARLOG                         23.27
EUROPEAN CAR                    10.33   STEREO REVIEW                    8.80
EXECUTIVE FEMALE                26.83   STITCH & SEW QUILTS              8.30
FABULOUS MUSTANGS & EXOTIC CARS  7.27   STOCK CAR RACING                10.42
FACES                           20.85   STORY                           16.63
FAITH & STUFF                   12.36   STREET ROD ACTION               21.86
FAMILY CIRCLE                   14.78   SUCCESS                         11.48
FAMILY HANDYMAN                 13.88   SUCCESSFUL RETIREMENT           13.13
FAMILY LIFE                      6.93   SUNBONNET CRAFTS                 7.97
FAMILY SAFETY & HEALTH          14.73   SUNSET                          14.18
FANGORIA                        16.52   SUPER CHEVY                     12.04
FANTASTIC FOUR                  10.05   SUPER COMPUTING REVIEW          39.15
FANTASY & SCIENCE FICTION       12.97   SUPER FORD                      12.78
FANTASY BASEBALL                 9.00   SUPER NES BUYERS GUIDE          12.76
FARM & RANCH LIVING             16.13   SUPER STOCK & DRAG RACING        9.87
FARMERS DIGEST                  15.23   SUPERCYCLE                      15.53
FASHION KNITTING                14.81   SUPERMAN                        15.30
FATE                            10.80   SUPERMAN - THE MAN OF STEEL     15.30
FEDERAL TIMES                   31.80   SUPERVISORY MANAGEMENT          34.58
FELL'S US COINS INVESTMENT GUID 10.51   SUPERVISORY SENSE               22.80
FEMALE BODY BUILDING             8.09   SURFER                          18.85
FIELD & STREAM                   8.61   SURFING                         11.47
FINANCIAL WORLD                 20.70   SURPRISES                        8.41
FINE GARDENING                  22.20   TCI                             18.75
FINE HOMEBUILDING               26.83   TEACHING PRE K-8                12.43
FINE SCALE MODELER              19.20   TEAM TITANS                     17.33
FINE WOODWORKING                23.13   TECHNOLOGY & LEARNING           14.64
FIREHOUSE MAGAZINE              15.00   TECHNOLOGY REVIEW               28.50
FISHING & HUNTING NEWS          20.96   TEEN                             9.97
FISHING WORLD                    7.90   TEEN BEAT                       15.48
FLARE                            9.68   TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES     5.15
FLASH                           13.13   TENNIS                          11.17
FLEX                            26.22   TEXAS FISH & GAME                8.09
FLORIDA SPORTSMAN               10.59   TEXAS MONTHLY                   11.07
FLORIDA VACATION RENTALS MAGAZI 10.40   TEXAS MONTHLY.                  13.65
FLOWER & GARDEN                  8.42   THE FRANCHISE HANDBOOK          16.65
FLY ROD AND REEL                10.48   THE HOCKEY NEWS                 43.71
FLYING                          13.80   THEOLOGY TODAY                  13.13
FLYING MODELS                   17.58   THOR                            10.13
FOOD & WINE                     11.25   THRASHER MAGAZINE               14.34
FOOTBALL DIGEST                 13.48   THREADS                         22.20
FOOTBALL NEWS                   22.72   TODAY'S BETTER LIFE             14.81
FORBES                          37.80   TODAY'S COLLECTOR               16.24
FORTUNE                         31.77   TODAYS CATHOLIC TEACHER          9.34
FOUR WHEEL & OFF ROAD           10.97   TODAYS CHRISTIAN WOMAN           8.82
FOUR WHEELER                     9.83   TOLE WORLD                      11.65
FREEBIES                         6.80   TOTAL HEALTH                     7.50
FRONT PAGE DETECTIVE             9.30   TOY SHOP                        21.67
FUR FISH & GAME                 11.56   TRACK & FIELD NEWS              17.36
FUTURIFIC                       37.50   TRADITIONAL HOME                11.15
GAME PLAYERS NINTENDO/SEGA      10.77   TRADITIONAL QUILTER             13.13
GAME PLAYERS PC ENTERTAINMENT    8.97   TRAILER BOATS                   10.96
GAMEPRO                         21.33   TRAILER LIFE                    14.85
GAMES                           11.68   TRAINER'S WORKSHOP             209.00
GARBAGE (ENVIRONMENTAL)         14.18   TRAINING MAGAZINE               57.60
GEOMUNDO                        24.30   TRAINS                          28.82
GI JOE                          10.43   TRANSFORMERS                    10.35
GIFTED CHILD TODAY              20.63   TRAPPER & PREDATOR CALLER       15.42
GOD'S WORD TODAY                 9.34   TRAVEL & LEISURE                15.00
GOLDMINE                        31.85   TRAVEL 50 & BEYOND               6.22
GOLF                            11.96   TRAVEL HOLIDAY                   9.71
GOLF DIGEST                     18.16   TRAVELAMERICA                   11.03
GOLF FOR WOMEN                   9.34   TREASURE FOUND MAGAZINE         10.78
GOLF ILLUSTRATED                13.53   TREASURE MAGAZINE               24.43
GOLF TIPS                        8.08   TROPICAL FISH HOBBYIST MAGAZINE 21.88
GOLF WORLD                      25.96   TRUCK/RACES/RECREATIONAL MARKET  7.12
GOOD HOUSEKEEPING               14.10   TRUCK/VAN/4X4 PRICES            18.32
GOOD OLD DAYS                    9.21   TRUE DETECTIVE                   8.10
GOOD OLD DAYS SPECIAL            6.62   TRUE STORY                       9.72
GREEN LANTERN                   13.13   TRY IT YOURSELF HAIR             8.25
GREEN LANTERN MOSAIC            13.13   TU INTERNATIONAL                20.25
GRIT                            12.66   TURKEY & TURKEY HUNTING         10.81
GUIDEPOSTS                       7.73   TURTLE                           9.71
GUITAR PLAYER                   18.72   TV GUIDE - CANADA               30.98
GUN LIST                        22.58   TV Y NOVELAS                    10.50
GUN SHOW CALENDAR               11.72   TWINS                           15.30
GUN WORLD                       17.75   U.S. BOAT & SHIP MODELER        23.38
GUNS                            16.46   UNCANNY X-MEN                    8.10
GUNS & AMMO                     12.61   UNDERWATER USA                   8.60
HACK'D MAGAZINE                 16.28   UNIQUE HOMES                    17.25
HANDGUNNING                     16.47   UNIX WORLD                      17.10
HANDGUNS                        14.36   US AVIATOR                      15.00
HARPERS BAZAAR EN ESPANOL       17.01   US CATHOLIC                      9.75
HARPERS MAGAZINE                15.92   US KIDS                         16.11
HARROWSMITH - CANADA            15.48   US MAGAZINE                     12.57
HARVARD BUSINESS REVIEW         67.50   US NEWS & WORLD REPORT          32.79
HAWAII MAGAZINE                  5.84   USED CAR PRICES                 18.32
HEALTH MAGAZINE                 13.04   VACATION                         6.22
HECKLER, THE                    13.13   VALLEY MAGAZINE                  8.74
HERO ILLUSTRATED                12.76   VANIDADES                       15.56
HIGH PERFORMANCE MOPAR          13.20   VARIETY MAGAZINE               137.83
HIGH PERFORMANCE PONTIAC        13.20   VEGGIE LIFE                     11.48
HIGHLIGHTS FOR CHILDREN         20.10   VERANDA MAGAZINE                 9.30
HISPANIC MAGAZINE               14.70   VETTE                           20.58
HIT PARADER                     16.23   VICTORIAN SAMPLER               18.16
HM HEAVY METAL                   8.66   VIDEO                            4.26
HOCKEY DIGEST                   13.48   VIDEO GAMES & COMPUTER ENTERTA  12.42
HOMBRE INTERNACIONAL            20.25   VIDEOMAKER                      19.37
HOME                            12.50   VIRTUE                           9.33
HOME COOKING                     8.62   VOLLEYBALL                       9.33
HOME MECHANIX                    7.66   W MAGAZINE                      17.94
HOME OFFICE COMPUTING            7.48   WALKING                          9.00
HOOKED ON CROCHET                9.56   WALL STREET REPORTS             49.69
HORSE & HORSEMAN                12.78   WALLEYE                          7.31
HORSE ILLUSTRATED               14.28   WASHINGTONIAN, THE              15.36
HORSEPLAY                       10.33   WATERSKI                        10.91
HORTICULTURE                    11.79   WEARABLE CRAFTS                  9.19
HOT BOAT                        12.42   WEB OF SPIDERMAN                 7.76
HOT ROD                         10.97   WEEKEND WOODWORKING PROJECTS    18.88
HOUSE PLANT                     16.47   WEEKLY WORLD NEWS               19.34
HOUSTON METROPOLITAN             7.18   WEIGHT WATCHERS                 10.78
HOUSTON PEOPLE                  10.35   WESTERN HORSEMAN                12.15
HOW                             36.90   WESTERN LIVESTOCK JOURNAL       15.80
HR FOCUS                        49.16   WESTERN OUTDOORS                 9.12
HUMPTY DUMPTY                    9.71   WHATS NEW IN HOME ECONOMICS     16.68
HUNTING                         11.46   WHERE TO RETIRE                  6.22
HYPE HAIR                        8.25   WILD BIRD                       16.28
I LOVE CATS                     13.13   WINDOWS MAGAZINE                13.72
IDEAS PARA SU HOGAR             22.95   WINDOWS SOURCES                 16.76
IMPORT CAR PRICES               18.32   WINDSURFING                     10.91
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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 7185
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/11/93 10:08a
Subj: CD's for sale! Cheap!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following CD Rom's for sale:

Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing v2.0       $17.50

Sound Effects Library                  $10.00

This doesn't include P&H.  I will pay P&H if you pre-pay, if not, you pick up
the COD and P&H charges.  Reply here, or call the bellow phone number.  Please
leave a message if you call, I screen my calls if I am home!

Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: DYLAN GORDON                           Number: 7186
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 11/06/93  4:27p
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       I saw a message in this echo about a CDROM catalouge and it said to send
an address to you, so here goes....

       Dylan Gordon
       36 Deercross Pl. SE
       Calgary, AB
       T2J 6G6
       CANADA
       
       Please also send information about shipping and handling, etc. for
Canada.

       Dylan Gordon
       Internet: dylan.gordon@p0.f40.n134.z1.fidonet.org
       FidoNet:  Dylan Gordon @ 1:134/40 [TechTalk BBS, Calgary, AB]

... Is that a beard, or are you eating a muskrat?
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From: DYLAN GORDON                           Number: 7187
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/06/93  4:30p
Subj: Re: DOS 6.2                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dylan Gordon Caught This Message From Frederick A. Burgess to Jeff Jenkins

 JJ> just want to let evryone know DOS 6.2 is out!!
 JJ> it has a CD-ROM cache in SMARTDRV.SYS now!
 JJ> also MSCDEX 2.23 !!!  get it now only 10.00 at any computer store!

 FAB> 10 bucks?  Not a bad deal .. shame that CompuUSA is charging 49.95 for
 FAB> it.

       You could also download it for free off of MicroSoft BBS, or any other.
       
       Dylan Gordon
       Internet: dylan.gordon@p0.f40.n134.z1.fidonet.org
       FidoNet:  Dylan Gordon @ 1:134/40 [TechTalk BBS, Calgary, AB]


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From: DYLAN GORDON                           Number: 7188
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/06/93  4:32p
Subj: Police Quest 4 CD-ROM                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       Does anyone know when Police Quest 4 by Sierra on CD will be out?  Will 
anyone in this echo be selling it?

       Dylan Gordon
       Internet: dylan.gordon@p0.f40.n134.z1.fidonet.org
       FidoNet:  Dylan Gordon @ 1:134/40 [TechTalk BBS, Calgary, AB]

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From: MIKE KERCSMAR                          Number: 7189
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/10/93  4:45p
Subj: Toshiba 3201 wanted.                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like to add one or two Toshiba 3201's to my BBS. If you have any of
these CD units for sale, let me know! Thanks.
Michael Kercsmar
Computer InSights BBS 1:2607/205
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From: DAVE BAKKER                            Number: 7190
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/10/93  2:14p
Subj: Looking for                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello,

I'm looking for a cd disk that has descriptions of various plants.  Trees,
shrubs etc, with pictures and information on each.  Sort of a woody plant
manual on disk.  Does anyone know of such a disk and where I might get
one.

Thanks, Dave


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From: DAVE BAKKER                            Number: 7191
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 11/10/93  2:18p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

( 11-06-93 ) Jim Lambert wrote to All about CD-Rom Catalog

JL-If you are looking for great prices on the latest CD-Roms, give us a
JL-call or post your address, and we will be glad to send you our latest
JL-
JL-price list.  We also have a 44 page catalog complete with
JL-descriptions
JL-available for download from our support BBS.  The file name is
JL-CATALOG.ZIP for DOS Text and CATLOGWP.ZIP for Word Perfect format.
JL-We also have file lists for most popular shareware titles, and accept
JL-
JL-online orders using credit cards or COD.  Let me know if you have any
JL-
JL-questions.  We appreciate your business!
JL-

I'm interested in your information and lists:

Dave Bakker
1350 3rd str.
St.Catharines, Ontario, Canada
L2R-6P9

Also I would like to know if there are extra fees involved with
Canadian orders.

Thanks



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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 7192
  To: BRIAN HIPPS                              Date: 11/11/93  1:27p
Subj: Re: 1994 Encarta                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

$79.95 from Egghead stores...or call 1-800-EGGHEAD for mailorder. This price is
with "QUE" card...if you don't have one ask for a card on the spot.

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From: GARY SHADE                             Number: 7193
  To: FREDERICK A. BURGESS                     Date: 11/11/93  3:25p
Subj: DOS 6.2                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Overheard Frederick A. Burgess say to Jeff Jenkins on 11-09-93 about DOS
6.2

FA>*** Quoting Jeff Jenkins to All dated
FA>11-05-93 ***
FA>> just want to let evryone know DOS 6.2
FA>is out!!
FA>> it has a CD-ROM cache in SMARTDRV.SYS
FA>now!
FA>> also MSCDEX 2.23 !!!  get it now only
FA>10.00 at any computer store!
FA>
FA>
FA>10 bucks?  Not a bad deal .. shame that
FA>CompuUSA is charging 49.95 for it.

The $49 price is for someone upgrading from DOS 5.0 or below. It includes
manuals etc. The $9.95 upgrade contains ONLY the upgrade disk.
GS


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From: TODD HOCHSTETLER                       Number: 7194
  To: ANYONE INTERESTED                        Date: 11/11/93 11:48p
Subj: cd trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a kings quest 6 cd and stellar7 cd and a couple other utility type disks
that I would like to trade.  Anyone intersested leave me a message.          
Thanks, Todd Hochstetler


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From: DAVID DOYLE                            Number: 7195
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/11/93  8:01a
Subj: Pioneer 6 Pack CD-rom                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for one  of the pioneer 6 packs. Those of you who have them for
sale write me here and gimme a price. Descrie which model you are
pricing out. and I don't like to haggle so Bottom dollar will get the
ball rolling. this is an open bid to all who can supply 1-3 to these
babies since i am tired of swappin out on my current 3 Cd-drives and 16
disks. if you wish to keep your bid private leave me NetMail at the
below address
                David


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From: JOHN HOPKE                             Number: 7196
  To: BILL WOOD                                Date: 11/11/93  2:16p
Subj: Re: DOS 6.2                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BW>Hey mike, do you have dos 6.0, if so, could you upload it to me, thanks
  >Bill


I hope you realize that at first glance, this does NOT look good!
 þ QMPro 1.50 92-0724 þ It's not hard to meet expenses, they're everywhere.


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From: THOMAS WAGNER                          Number: 7197
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 11/12/93 11:26a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Volume II               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

All reveiws that I read were posted on FIDONET CD ROM for sale. I do have to
agree that "busty "is in the eye of the beholder. All the reveiws that I read
said the scans were great. Also they mentioned that they were also licensed
which is important to many people. I would not even have returned the CD if it
would have been a full CD of GIF's. MY local sysop has 25 CD's of shareware
now, with many of the newest shareware cd's on line. I don't want anyone else
trying to sell me on the shareware concept. If you ever produce a full CD of
GIF'S I will more than likely buy it. I do know of publishing company in
FLORIDA who prints a magazine devoted to big chested womem, perhaps you can
deal with them to get licensed photos for your next disk. There are several
companies who put out magazines on big chested women, some have been around
since the late 70's so that would give you plenty of material for few disks. 
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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 7198
  To: FREDERICK A. BURGESS                     Date: 11/11/93  8:09a
Subj: Re: DOS 6.2                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Frederick A. Burgess to Jeff Jenkins <=-

 FAB> *** Quoting Jeff Jenkins to All dated 11-05-93 ***
 > just want to let evryone know DOS 6.2 is out!! 
 > it has a CD-ROM cache in SMARTDRV.SYS now!
 > also MSCDEX 2.23 !!!  get it now only 10.00 at any computer store!


 FAB> 10 bucks?  Not a bad deal .. shame that CompuUSA is charging 49.95 for
 FAB> it. 

Apples and oranges. The $9 is an upgrade ONLY, you must have 6.0 to use,
the $50 dollars is for full version.

BTW, anyone used MSCDEX 2.23 yet? How does it work?  My CD-ROM is
an Hitachi 6000 and is locked into their driver, and since I also run
OS/2, I can't get my CD ROM to work in OS/2.  There is a 50$ upgrade,
but gee, for a driver? I will wait awhile.



... My CD Rom is slower than your CD Rom!
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 7199
  To: NINO FAGAN                               Date: 11/11/93  5:45p
Subj: Os2Box Report.                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NF>  MY evaluation of Os2Box: 
 
NF>Os2Box Zip file dates: 
  >12/93- 41 
  >11/93-271 
  >10/93-194 
  >09/93-222 
  >08/93-  4 
  >    --- 
  >    732 
  >Yet most files were actually older than the JUNE Hobbs CDRom! 
 
I was wondering if anybody else had noticed the job they did on the file 
dates.  I found 19 files dated in the future in the very first directory 
I looked at (#3).  This disc had a lot of potential, and maybe still 
does, but Damar MUST learn a very important lesson about file dates. 
Accuracy is FAR more important than boasting about the newness of the 
files. 
 
The people who produced Big Sky Rom I set the date of the zip equal to 
the date of the largest file in the archive.  I like this technique, and 
it is far more important than the date that the producer happened to zip 
it up. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 7200
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 11/13/93  4:21p
Subj: MAGAZINES 2 OF 3                        Refer: 10645
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Looking for a great price on magazine subscriptions? We have over 900

That's strike 2.  Again, DO NOT advertise anything but CD ROM products
in this echo!

tim
moderator
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From: PATRICK SHEN                           Number: 7201
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/11/93  5:44p
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have following CD-ROMs for sale.  All CD-ROMs are in New Condition. Add $3
for UPS or Priority Mail shipping.

7th Guest by Virgin Games (2 CD set).  Smooth full motion video.  Best CD ever
made.                                    --------------  $40.00

Software Toolworks CD Deluxe Pack.  Includes ChessMaster 3000 MPC, Mavis Beacon
Teaches Typing MPC, U.S. Atlas MPC and World Atlas MPC.  Each has own complete
documents.                          --------------  $55.00

Software Toolworks CD Game Pack II.  10 games on one CD.  Each has its own
documents.                             --------------------  $22.00

LucasArts Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe.  Very good World War II Air Combat
Simulation game.  I'll include a mission/utilities disk as a free bonus.       
                              -------------------  $20.00

Defender of the Crown - A tale of jousting heroes and damsels in distess by
Cinemaware.  A Robin Hood game.  Requires a Hitachi CD-ROM drive with audio
output.                                ------------------  $17.00

Deathstar Arcade Battles.  The most exciting arcade action and other games of
all time.                           ------------------  $15.00

SelectWare System.  The Ultimate Software Demo System.   ------   $9.00

Amateur Models Adult CD.                       ----------------  $33.00

If you are interested, please reply here to contact me at E-mail address below.

Patrick Shen
CompuServe: 72072,3612
Internet: pshen@simenv.com

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7202
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/12/93  8:27a
Subj: Industry Changes                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BJ>>  LN> Some day, I will write our memoirs of trials and tribulations,
 BJ>> This I want to read!

 LN> ....and believe me I want to go public with it--Until then I can
 LN> handle the hate mail :).....if you only knew what its like to be a
                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
No, thanks! I'll leave that end to you!

 LN> some, as our response to the change in the rules--Many are only
 LN> publishing 200-500 images, and thats all that will be on their disc.
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm a fervent believer in quality over quantity. I just looked over a CD
with about 200 PCX images. They were poor. I didn't object to the
"count", just the poor imagery. (No full review of this one coming - it
wasn't worth the effort). On the other hand, I don't think I'd be
willing to accept a 50-image disk under any but the most
exceptional of circumstances, which I can't even imagine right now.

 LN> It's a mess right now, and until the last of the 'Old' disc's dry up,
 LN> this change in the industry to licensed collections are going to meet
 LN> with alot of resistance--
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This may be true, but I'd bet such resistance would/will/does come from
the "raincoaters" who aren't going to accept licensed collections anyway
- they just won't be "hard" enough for them. That's not the market for
the "new breed" of adult CDs.

 LN> We are dealing to get 1500 images for the next disc. This disc has a
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^
Sounds like a reasonable number to me *IF* they're quality scans.

 LN> theme/twist never done before--The title is called, "Women On Wheels",
 LN> watcha think it is ? It's not XXX, we are out of that arena for good.
     ^^^^^^^^Œ^^^^^^^^^^  ^^^^^^^Œ^^^^^^
             ³                   À------ But I'll bet it'll be spicy!
             ³
             À---------- Well, your title says "on" not "in" so if cars
             are involved, I'd say they were draped over hot rods, etc.
             Of course, one sits "on" a motorcycle so that could be it.
             Then there's bicycles and unicycles, hmmmmm. You *did* say
             you'd been to California and there's lots of roller skate
             activity there. Guess we'll all have to wait! ((:>



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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7203
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/12/93  9:14a
Subj: Changing times...                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Lee Noga was saying to Bob Jackson on the subject of Re: BUSTY BABES REVIEW ...
 BJ>> No, but you don't have to include them on your CD, do you? That is to
 BJ>> say, YOU get to choose the scans, don't you?

 LN> The first time around, "No" we had to deal with what we were given,
                            ^^^^
Bummer.

 LN> eliminate about 50-75 more, but then I would have fell short of the
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That's probably a good number!

 LN> 1,000, and thee disc had to be ready by Comdex Nov--
 LN> Since it was our first experience with the photographers--We now, have
 LN> been given the chance to come and choose the images ourselves--Call it
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Great! Be critical - look "around" the image, not just "at" the image.
(S'cuse me if that sounded presumptive - I dodn't mean it to.)

 LN> We landed a 10 disc deal for 1994--and these disc's aren't amatuer
 LN> 'Annie' stuff--and we are trying to get 1500 images vs 1000--
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Again, very acceptabel if they're quality scans, IMO.

 LN> The disc film on BB II was misleading to mimic a shareware disc,
         ^^^^^^^^^
??????? Do you mean the jewel case inserts (aka "covers")?

 LN> As for the next discs--No more shareware--We thought it would be a
 LN> nice extra--Instead we will only have the images (refuse to duplicate
     ^^^^^^^^^^
As you know by now, some liked it - others hated it.

 LN> them in different rez like SB disc) and thats it, no stories, no
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is a subtlity that some users won't appreciate. The most "bang for
the buck" (no pun) comes from the GIF format which is "self-compressed".
Other fromats, like PCX, TIFF, and TGA take up more room per scan
because they're less economical formats and/or because of using greater
than 8-bit color. My point is, it is foolish to look at the raw
number of Mb used on a CD without understanding how/why those Mb were
used.

 LN> willing to get into more amateur images. The photographers that have
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Yuk! This is one of my "hot buttons" as you well know by now. With the
exception of "helpers", usually there's one model and one photographer.
This allows four different "situations", the most desirable of which is
that the photographer knows what to do and the model knows what to do.
If either doesn't knwo their part, the result suffers. In most "Amateur
Annie" stuff (like GG, IMO), neither knew what they were doing. This
results in what I call "Look, Ma! I can take nudies pictures, too!" It
is to barf.

 LN> For example, the SB disc, was from 5 years worth of work from one
                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Wow! I had no idea that was the case!

 LN> big chunk--If that be the case, the price of CD's retail would
 LN> quadruple, and the consumer has adjusted to the affordability of
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I agree with your analysis. Disks would still sell, but at a much slower
pace.

 LN> If you only knew the difficulty to find 1,000 publishable images,
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Again, my naivet‚ is showing! I would have thought there was an almost
endless sea of such material to choose from.

 LN> one source (to keep the wholesale prices low), and trying to
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I don't understand this one. I would have thought using several sources
(i.e. photogrpahers) would mean that the photog would have to commit
less of his/her collection and therefore would charge a lesser price
(since you would be undoing all of his work in one fell swoop).

 LN> creative so that you don't always put out more of the same type
 LN> product (i.e.-softcore models nude)--and keeping it attractive
     ^^^^^^^
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!! Variety is the spice of like as the saying
goes.

 LN> it in--It's a *DAMN* thankless job with a peanuts profit margin.
 LN> we have consideration for the interface and the licensing right to
 LN> drive the disc--So those that think that publishing is $1.35 disc,
 LN> we publishers are fat cats, I welcome anyone into this
                       ^^^^^^^^^
Well, you *did* say you needed to drop a few pounds (GD&R).

 LN> will have all 10 disc's a year with total variety so that they
 LN> compete against one another--So, its not going to be 'Just'
 LN> models over and over--Even have the 'Spice' factor covered--

 Can't wait!!

 LN> you of all people who review disc's, will certainly see the new
 LN> products as a distinct change--I didn't make the rules, and I did
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Lee, you've given me a lot to think about. I'm going to have to review
my paradigm for doing the CD reviews to make sure that I'm being fair to
the "new breed". It's becoming clear that comparing them to "CDs of old"
may not be right in all respects (like perhaps image counts). Thanks for
taking the time to give me (and the echo) so additional insights.

 LN> So, Im not out to convinve anyone of anything--Be skeptical, keep
                                                    ^^^^^Œ^^^^^^
                                                         À Yes.

 LN> hate mail coming, kick and scream, complain and be indignant, hit
     ^^^^Œ^^^^         ^^^^^^^Œ^^^^^^^  ^^^Œ^^^^     ^^^^^^Œ^^^^^
         À No.                À No.        À Yes.          À No.

 LN> in the chin, belittle what I stand for, do as you all please--In
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Œ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                     À No.

 LN> Hope you save this message, Bob--It too will have nostalgic value
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^Œ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                 À Done and done.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7204
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/12/93  1:23p
Subj: Re: CD DISCS FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike Shannon was saying to Brice Fleckenstein on the subject of CD DISCS FOR SA

 BF>>$12.50  John O'Conner Associates
 MS> "John O'Conner Associates Shareware."

Actually, it's "O'Conner And Associates - Disk 1 - The Original
ShareWare" , but who's looking? :)

I have one of these and am planning on keeping it for "historical value"
(or is that hysterical value" ?) Maybe in 20 or 30 years it'll be worth
$12.50.

... Documentation - The worst part of programming.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7205
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 11/12/93  2:12p
Subj: Re: SHAREWARE CD TITLES                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Brice Fleckenstein was saying to Joe Rinehart on the subject of SHAREWARE CD TI
 >     sh   11.60 The California Collection                   sh   11.60 VGA
 >Spectrum I                              sh   11.60 Wizpack
 >               sh   11.60 1001 Utilities                              sh

 BF> ...just THIS part.

Odd. All of Joe's posts have come through here perfectly. I used to
complain to Mike Shannon about his ads being garbled until I discovered
it was my O/L reader doing the deed. Since I switched to Blue Wave (even
for QWK) I don't have no more estinkin' garbled messages. :)

... Docs? Why would I want to look at the Docs. Nurses are better :)  
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From: FRED IRIZARRY                          Number: 7206
  To: BRIAN HIPPS                              Date: 11/12/93  5:34p
Subj: SOUND BLASTER PRO                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >FI@>I am selling a:
  >FI@>      ----------=================--------------
  >FI@>      >>>>>>>>> Sound Blaster Pro <<<<<<<<<<<<<
  >FI@>      ----------=================--------------
  >FI@>For $100.00
  >I'll offer $70 shipped, leave a message on my board if interested.

  Sorry, Brian The Board is SOLD. . Thanks for the reply, thow.


                                        Fred Irizarry

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From: DON HOOKER                             Number: 7207
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 11/11/93  9:10p
Subj: Re: CD Encyclopedia for s               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Michael, I received the Compton's Encyclopedia CD on Wednesday
and it was as advertised. The kid's are already doing school reports
with it. Thanks and a pleasure doing business with you!!  Don
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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 7208
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/12/93 10:29p
Subj: sound effects library                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have sound effects library on cd.  This is selling for $19 or more.  My price
is $10 + $2 for P&H.  If interested, reply or call.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 7209
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/12/93 10:31p
Subj: Mavis Beacon Typing tutor               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have (1) package of Mavis Beacon teaches typeing on CD Rom disk.
price is $17.50 + P&H.  The others I had went fast.  reply back if
interested in the last one!



Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: GREGORY POKRYWKA MD                    Number: 7210
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 11/13/93 12:16a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

YO JIM! Please send that catalogue to me at 2914 E. Joppa Road, Baltimore, Md.
21234.....i'd appreciate it! 
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From: GORDON FLETCHER                        Number: 7211
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/11/93 11:56a
Subj: VIRUS! IN NIGHTOWL-10 CD                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

  >JL>  >JM-On Night Owl's v10 CD. The file contains the "Memory Lapse" Virus.
  >JL>  >JM-
  >JL>  >JM-The Virus is detectable with McAfee Scan v108.

Mike, Does this mean that there are actually viruses lurking on CD-ROMs?
I naively thought all the shareware had been checked before processing.
Do I now have to use McAffee Scan on everything on CD-Roms? I just
got Night Owl 10 from you. Fletch.
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From: MARK LEONARD                           Number: 7212
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/10/93  7:04a
Subj: CD-ROM Drives?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello, I'm thinking of buying a CD-ROM drive, is there anything that I should
be looking out for or avoid while I'm looking?

... Ho, hum.
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From: JIM LUND                               Number: 7213
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/10/93 12:37a
Subj: TOSHIBA CD-ROM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello ALL!

        Looking for older Tosh. CD-ROM's working or not.
        Please Leave a message here with price and condition



Jim Lund

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From: BYRON KROHN                            Number: 7214
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/09/93 11:07p
Subj: BBv.2 Problems                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am having problems loading the BB v.2 viewing program. My line-up is 
as follows:
a) Mitsumi LU002 Drive.
b) ATI Sterio F/X CD sound/controller card
c) CD Speedway w/2,048K RAM-Cache
d) Volanti Warp 20 Video card
e) CTX 15" NI Monitor, (I have tried all possible configurations)
f) Basic 386-40 w/387-40 co-processor
g) Running DOS 5.0 & Windows 3.1

If I call SOCD from DOS: My system hangs-up one keystroke from a 
hot-boot.

If I call from Windows: I get an error message: "STOP" This application 
has violated system integrity due to execution of an invalid instruction 
and will be terminated."

Please advise what I can do to allow the view of the GIF files. The ZIP 
file portion seems OK, but I have yet to get the display to work. What's 
worng???? TNX Byron

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From: SCOTT RUBY                             Number: 7215
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 11/09/93  6:23p
Subj: Carmen San Diego for sal                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Jeff Jenkins to Gene Ehrich <=-

 JJ> It's the CD and instruction booklet. It was bundled software

I'm new to the echo... do you have a CD of Carmen SD for sale?
Let me know the price... 



... If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.
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From: SCOTT RUBY                             Number: 7216
  To: BRIAN HIPPS                              Date: 11/12/93 12:00a
Subj: 1994 Encarta                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Brian Hipps to All <=-

 BH> OK, dealers who's got the best price on the 1994 Encarta. Have seen
 BH> $87 preorders. Let me know.

A couple of weeks ago, the best price I could find was Egghead's
800 number (1-800-Egg-Head).  It was under 80, I think 79 +5shipping
+tax.  At that time, the local stores only had the 1993 version
which was still in the mid 200s.

If you find a better deal, please don't tell me <g>.

... Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic
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From: GEORGE W. CARDIN                       Number: 7217
  To: SLEDGEHAMMER                             Date: 11/12/93 10:24a
Subj: SCSI CD-Roms Needed                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

S#@>I need a cheap SCSI CD-ROM Drive!
S#@>I seem to mess everyone who is selling them.
S#@>i have the Interface and all, just need the drive.

S#@>HELP!

S#@>Thanx
S#@>John Boudreaux

S#@>The Experimental BBS                                          
(904)375-7555
S#@>Not just the same old Shareware stuff!                   Sysop:
SledgeHammer
S#@>Real-time Programming Support                            User Requested
Subs

John,
  Try calling Billy Moring......sysop of MCS BBS......I think he has
  several CD drives he removed from his bbs when the cd changer was
  installed. Billy's phone# is 376-8333 voice, or 375-7860 bbs.
  Have a good one.
        George
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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 7218
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/10/93  7:39p
Subj: Night Owl 10 Dealer Recal               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >Options: E:*.* /BELL /CHKHI /DATE /M /REPORT C:\SCAN.RPT /SUB 
 >Scanning Volume: MS-RAMDRIVE 
 >>Scanning E:.\SF2-UP.EXE 
 >>  Found the Memory Lapse [ML] Virus 
 >> Found 1 file containing a virus.
 
I have been informed that the ML virus was actually mis-detected by
scan.. Scan 107 doesnt detect it, I've heard it was just a problem with
scan and that no virus exists..
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From: LEONARDO FONTES                        Number: 7219
  To: BRIAN KECK                               Date: 11/12/93  1:19a
Subj: video coupons                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey Brian,

         If they ask any questions just tell 'em you purchased
    a few copies of Aladdin... (it's a promo item.)

         If you're ever around the area of MetroWest
    come on into the Blockbuster Video at 2449 S.Hiawassee Rd.
    and introduce yourself, I'll hook U up w/ something....


                                  Cya then,
                                                 Lenny...
PS.- The store is in the Metrowest Village Shopping Plaza...
    Look for SUNBANK, TACO HELL, SAM SNEAD'S TAVERN...


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From: JOE KELLY                              Number: 7220
  To: MARK WATERS                              Date: 11/12/93 11:10a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi 2x Spin                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Yes, the interface is proprietary, but several sound boards have it like the
orchid board.

... This copy of GEdit has been unregistered for 31 days.
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 7221
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 11/12/93 10:17a
Subj: Hey There...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to LEE NOGA <11-09-93 15:25> BUBBA THERRIEN wrote:

BT>> How have you been Lee? Have not spoken to you while, hope that all is
BT>> well. What are you doing playing in fires? You could get hurt,
BT>> wouldn't want that to happen.

Hey Big guy, I have been hanging in there despite alot of tragedy in the CD-ROM
business--Was out in LA for CD projects, walked away a winner, and had to pass
on several meetings to meet the photographers because the fires had access
hosed up--But, the phone worked as a great alternative. I came back feisty :)
Thanks for asking--

BT>> Talk later and if I don't hear from you , Have a happy Thanksgiving

Always ! May the holidays bring great blessings, yule tides, and rolaids (that
is if you suffer from 'Oink' syndrome like some of us do <grin>.)

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 7222
  To: THOMAS WAGNER                            Date: 11/12/93 10:33a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Volume II               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <11-09-93 23:18> Thomas Wagner wrote:

TW>> They are yelling and screaming about being ripped off. If
TW>> you spend
TW>> good money to buy an adult CD, you want an adult CD. If you wanted a
TW>> shareware CD, then you would have bought a whole shareware CD. The
TW>> two types
TW>> of files on the disk just don't go together.

I appreciate your coming forward but.....but there is as much arguement about
the big busted woman as being 'Un-natural', so we went the other way with what
we could get licensed--For everyone that complains about the size of breasts,
we have another saying they much prefer the more believable sizes--and prefer
Vol II over Vol 1--Vol III, will be the huge ones, since there seems to be a
market for the bazooka's vs natural--Its so hard to please everyone, and with
Vol II and Vol III, out together, both worlds should be covered--BB III we are
looking for a Jan release.

TW>> One reveiw that I read stated there are only 383
TW>> GIF's

The Bob Jackson review stated 1,001 images, I don't know where/who has given
misleading info--

TW>> I returned  my CD right after I read
TW>> the reveiws, unopened.

Well, you were well within your rights--YOur satisfaction is important too--

As for the shareware--It was eithere 1,001 slides and thats all, or give
something else to go with it--So the choices were to dupe the slides in 24 bit
true color (which would be a waste for many) or give nothing--Bottom line, the
disc still would have been 1,001 images with or without the shareware--The disc
film was done for easy exporting out of the country, so we wanted to look like
a shareware disc, becausee BB II would get snagged because customs would think
it was the XXX sequel to BB I--

So why all the heat--It was a bonus, not the primary theme of the disc.

We could have been like Southern Beauties and picked 300 of the 1,000 8 bit
images, duped them in 24 bit, to make 3 MB files which would have filled the
disc, and made it 600MB plus......but take all the frills away and Southern
Beauties still had 1,000 images like BB II.

The reviews are valuable to many, and Im glad Bob has taken the thankless job
of doing it--

If I were to remove the shareware, everybody on the other fence who have liked
the idea, will be angry--So, its real simple, Im sticking with images and, the
hell with freebees--I am tired of the hassles. All future disc's will be all
images and nothing else.


-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 7223
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 11/12/93 10:44a
Subj: Re: I liked the new Busty Babes         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to lee noga <11-08-93 17:43> Michael Harris wrote:

MH>> I just wanted to let you know I liked the Busty Babes II disk, I
MH>> think the scans are great and have excellent quality in the
MH>> sharpness.

Thanks for the feedback--The quality and clarity was priority one, and we used
some new technology to achieve this end result.

MH>> The Teasers dir was something else, sure does what is it is named
MH>> for. :-)

Well, I guess the directory names given weren't all that out of whack--And
those images are definately teasing :) Lends itself to the imagination, that is
for sure.

MH>> I just wonder when someone is going to get the idea to press a cd of
MH>> 650 megs of the same man/women for married people. :-)

Well, licensed collections are still in the infantile stages, and working with
the photographers for big qty is difficult because other publishers are
releasing their discs with only 200-500 images--and the photog's ask us why we
want 1,000-1500--when they are working with other publishers that only wanted
200 for their CD--The packed days are not the goals anymore, its quality over
quantity--Dealing with Man/Women images can be lethal with obscenity issues,
and are tooooooo dangerous for those that can't afford incarceration--1994 is
gonna be the year for obscenity busting, and 1993 is the year for copyright
infringements--See, back in the old days, it was easy to gather 4,000 images
because we got them from the BBS environement, and never gave obscenity a
thought--Well, being that I have been the most sued publisher in CD-ROM, a few
details were pointed out to me which took me from the ranks of 'Hindsight' into
1994 with 'Insight'--Those that remain ignorant or unconcerned, Im sure will
pop out XXX disc's from time to time, so as few as they may be, there will be
those that still take their chances.

I for one, will not be one of those players, and instead have persued other
directions, which are just as much fun, that won't land me in jail :)

Thanks for the support !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 7224
  To: JASON SACKT                              Date: 11/12/93 11:07a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Volume II               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to John Ricker <11-09-93 09:35> Jason Sack wrote:

JS>> Having just spent the $59 + taxes for this disc, I was ***VERY***
JS>> dissapointed with the poor quality of the scans, the repeats of the
JS>> same model in multiple series and the 200 megs of shareware and only
JS>> some 400 megs of adults pics.  Gentlemen, and ladies, don't waste
JS>> your time OR money with this disc!

There is something wrong with your video setup and the disc--Something is not
right, the scans are sharp as a tack--The 4 page thumbnails have to be clicked
to enlarge (which is where the clarity is), or use the slideshow feature--There
is a definite technical problem here--If it continues call Solana on the back
for assistance. The clarity is there, ask others.

The rest of your post, is because you are getting your first taste of the
industry changes--Over the next few months, (your comparing apples and oranges,
the 'New Age' vs. thee 'Old Days)'--and when you see the new adult industry
emerge in adult images, you will be alot more disapointed with others then you
are with me--There are only 4 out there that represent the way its going, and
when the old stuff clears the market, and the newer discs have less then 1,000,
you won't be so hard on us--Having broke the 2nd disc, of images a notch above
amateur, hitting a market spoiled by XXX which was everywhere that contained
variety and great shots (all magazine infringements), breaking the licensed
stuff is gonna take a beating until the old stuff leaves the arena--Then when
you compare BB II with the other and the only available disc's out there, you
will realize then, she wasn't the waste of money as some of the newer ones may
be deemed as such--Then you can compare BB II with other apples--Until then, I
will take all the heat until the 'New' licensed disc's hit the market, where
the grassroots ones are the rarity, vs the illegal ones out monopolizing the
newer safer ones--That balance will shift in the next 90 days, and we can move
away from all this resistance and 'Apples vs Oranges' posting--

Until then, note I have not run into the woodwork, Im gonna get you readers
thru this change whether you kick me or support me--I am at the mercy of time,
waiting for the other apples to hit the market, and the oranges to be memories
(note also, distribution is dropping these oranges, they are not being
manufactured anymore, the plants are refusing etc...) The oranges are are
getting harder and harder to find--Everybody will understand the 'Apple'
industry in a few months--

Save this post, it will have nostalgic value to you, personally. Your words are
harsh now, but it's because you don't know all what is going on, and I can
overlook that--But if your going to make such strong statements, make sure you
have other apples to compare too. BB II should not be compared to oranges from
the 'Hey' days--Not fair.

She can be compared to Southern Beauties, Giffy Gold, PGG1, and Amateur
Models---those are the apples to date. The response to the change in the
industry.....with many disc's just like it to come.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: DAVID DOYLE                            Number: 7225
  To: JOHN PIERCE                              Date: 11/12/93  5:52p
Subj: CD-ROM BB for Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I have a copy of Busty Babes for sale, if anyone is interested!
-> I've had it for about 3 months, It's in brand new condition!
->
-> Best offer gets it ASAP!
I'll give $15.00 for it...


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From: GARY COLMAN                            Number: 7226
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/12/93  1:54a
Subj: Order                                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hi Mike

+ 7th Guest.....................39.00
+ Night Owl 10.0 (In Stock!)....29.00
+ Programmer's MegaPack.........29.00
                               ------
  Value of Order:              $97.00

* Dictionaries & Language.......13.00
* Our Solar System..............13.00
* C User's Group Library........31.00
* Source CD-ROM.................20.00
* Space Shuttle (New!)..........25.00
* Technotools...................13.00
* Visions of Saturn.............23.00

Saw your ads - great selection...  Pity about the Rand/$ exchange - I'd
love to soak up some more of those CD's...

Anyway, those above, marked with a (+) I would like to order...
If you could please FAX me a pro-forma invoice so that I can get a
bank draft thru to you..(Please include cost for Standard cheapie
airmail (registered) )

FAX NUMBER: +27-21-434-0077         (Please mark:  FOR GARY COLMAN)
BBS NUMBER: +27-21-462-4580         (14.4K 8n1 24 hours)
NETMAIL: Gary Colman @ 5:7102/129   (Fidonet)
E-MAIL:  CLMGAR01@Uctvax.uct.ac.za  (Internet)
Or I'll be lurking in CDROM and CDROM_SALE on FidoNet

Those titles marked with a (*) could you please send some info on..

Just a quick question - is there a discount for
  SYSOPs ??
  STUDENTS ??  (Worth a try ;-) )
     - I'm studying Elec Eng/Comp Sci, 1st year


Thanks very much
  Gary Colman
  (Sysop: Chameleon BBS)


BTW - I netmailed you a couple o' times, and crashed mail to you twice -
quite a costly experience..  Dunno if you got it or not, so here I am in
here...

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 7227
  To: ALLEN EVANS                              Date: 11/13/93 12:02a
Subj: CD Rom Player/Paid/Not Recived          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Allen!

Whats the deal sent money out the 22 Oct. and still no cd player.
Called you last week and you said you would get it right out! I waited but
nothing, its to closs to Christmas for this to be happening, need for you to
reply. Will try one more time with phone call or you can call me at
512-939-9822 Please understand that was a gift and can't afford to get another,
unless you would rather send refund.

Pat

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 7228
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 11/13/93 11:22a
Subj: MAGAZINES 3 OF 3                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <09 Nov 93  17:04:00>, Chris Bourne (1:385/2004) writes:

 >Looking for a great price on magazine subscriptions? We have over 900 
 >titles
 >to choose from, at or below normal subscription prices. To order, send a 
 >check
 >or money order, indicating which titles you want, to:
What in the he** does this have to do with CD-ROM's? The first time I saw 
this in here, I thought maybe you made a mistake. Now it is obvious you have 
no concern for the users of this echo, I wouldn't buy anything from you if you
 were giving it away. So take your ad somewhere else. 

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7229
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 11/11/93  9:39p
Subj: SHAREWARE CD TITLES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  1) The format is STILL garbled.
    Thank you once again!  I've added an extra blank space right after a line
that might exceed 77 columns.  Hope this will do the job:)
 >  2) Non-alphabetical order is NOT "user-friendly" at all.
    This has been suggested to us, & will be changed in our future issues.
I'm so used to useing qedit's sort facility to sort catagorys & presume
everyone else does the same:)  Also, there are times I do it on purpose, ie: to
show less expensive titles first.

    Again thanks Brice,  this is one of the few business' I've ever been
involved that the competition gives assistance:)  BTW, if you'd not mind
sending me your catalog, I have a couple of backorders I'd like to send out.
    Joe Rinehart

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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 7230
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 11/09/93  7:09p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1 OF 3            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >                              Brice's Library
 >                      CD-ROM Price List 26 October 1993

Got the first one, but may have missed the 2 of 3 and 3 of 3.... do you mark
the ones that are bbs ready?
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From: TOM ROSETTI                            Number: 7231
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/12/93  6:46a
Subj: Re: XXX cd rom disk                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN> distributing copyrighted works, as well as potential

Copyrighted??!!  I didn't know that!

LN> liability for trafficking obscenity based on your community

I have some idea of this.  I keep strict control over who has access to the
Adult areas of my board.

LN> standards--Read Boardwatch magazine, and understand the

Where is this available?

Thanks for the heads up,

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7232
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/13/93 12:03a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=[ F R E E   C A T A L O G ]=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

The Current Copy Of Our Catalog Is Now Available For File Request Using
the Name " CCI.ZIP" or the Magic Name Of "CCI".
You may request the file from anyone of the systems below. If you're
not running a mailer, your welcome to visit these systems and download
it FREE.

  1:157/46  - 216-225-6130 US     or     1:388/20  - 817-756-7565 US


=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=[ This is Only The Begining ]=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress makes it's motion picture debut as the "The Emailator"!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7233
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/13/93 12:03a
Subj: Pier 3                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*************************   P I E R   3  ******************************

            New Shareware CD from "The Pier Exchange
          600 + Megs Of The Latest Shareware Programs

                         PRICE  -  $25.00

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6130

************************************************************************

Boris Osadciw

... I married the Mail Lady!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7234
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/13/93 12:03a
Subj: ALL NEW WINDOWS CD                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} A L L   N E W  W I N D O W S  C D {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{
Over 670+Megs        Over 5,500 Files      Virus Checked    Dup Checked
    BBS Ready with direct support for PCBoard, Spitfire and other's
     Largest Collection Of Window Software Anywhere in The World !
               File dates mostly '92 - 93' Very few 91's
   FREE CD from the author (with purchase) over 2,000+ Hi-Res Images

                              PRICE - $25.00

ORDERS ONLY! US/CAN 800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... What Bug! I left behind the roaches in New York!
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7235
  To: PHILIP POLSTRA                           Date: 11/12/93 11:55p
Subj: Universal Interface                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PP> DP> with the CD PowerBox version 2.00 - due out by December 15th.  Buy a
cop

PP>Is this to be a newer PowerBox or a completely different PowerBox to put up
o
PP>my BBS in addition to version 1.00?

It will be totally new material, with files that are newer than either Pier
or Night Owl 10.  We're taking pre-orders now at $29 if you're interested.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7236
  To: BERNT MANSSON                            Date: 11/12/93 11:55p
Subj: MOVIES..                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF>>I'm intrested in buying any CD-Rom that has anything remotly to do with
movi
BF>>I have the "Cinemania '92" and "Video Movie Guide 1993", is there any
others

BF> "Roger Ebert Movie Companion" comes to mind.

BF>>If so, who can ship to me in Sweden ??

BF> I'd suggest Boris or Mike or Doug - I'm not set up to handle international
BF>orders at this time (except to those places that use U.S. Dollars like
Puerto
BF>Rico)....

Bernt,

We have the Roger Ebert Movie Companion in stock at $37, and we just got a
couple of new ones: Hollywood, the Bizarre, and Horror/Sci-Fi Films.  The
former deals primarily with weird and unknown Hollywood stories, but the
latter is a nice multimedia encyclopedia on just about every known Horror
& Sci-Fi flick ever made.  Each one is priced at $43.50, and we can ship
to Sweden.  Airmail insured for up to 1 lb. is around $13.00.

We also have Cinemania '93 @ $58.  Let me know if you're interested in any
of these........can ship same day.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7237
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/12/93 11:56p
Subj: NEW CD-ROM RELEASES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #1:  NEW CD ARRIVALS   |
           |____________________________________________________|

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>ADVENTURES IN HEAVEN * Ultimate game collection!.......................$19
 AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK 93/94 * New release. 11,000,000 businesses.$25
 ARIZONA IMAGES * Fabulous photos of the Arizona desert country.........$25
 BUSTY BABES VOL 2 * The FIRST serious "soft" adult CD for BBS!.........$29
 COMPUTER REFERENCE LIBRARY * Tutorials for popular software packages...$13
 DAY OF THE TENTACLE * Stop the mutated purple tentacle!................$44
 DINOSAURS! * Fabulous interactive, multimedia Dinosaur directory on CD.$34
 FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$24
 FRACTUNES * Colorful, ever-changing graphics synched with music........$30
 GARDENING * Complete handbook for the home gardener on ROM!............$13
 GIRLS OF MARDI GRAS * New "R" adult film showcasing wild party girls...$43
>GROLIER'S MPC 6.0 * The latest edition of Grolier's encyclopedia.......$45
 HEALTH & MEDICAL DIRECTORY * Guide to all doctors & hospitals in U.S...$27
>HOLLYWOOD THE BIZARRE * Lives & deaths of the stars w/ 1 hr. of voices.$43
>HORROR & SCI-FI FILMS * Full details of over 2300 films w/ 100s of pix.$43
 LA COLECCION * 600+mb of recent shareware w/ description is Spanish....$24
 LAN MASTER * High quality Networking utilities & technical notes.......$25
 LEARNING HEAVEN * Mind challenging educational games...................$19
 LINUX OPERATING SYSTEM * Unix-like operating system for PC's...........$29
 MAD DOG MCCREE * Great shoot 'em up game with real, full-motion video..$39
 MONSTER MEDIA 93 VOL 2 * 630+mb from May thru Aug. 93 with manual!.....$29
 NEWSWEEK INTERACTIVE * An exciting look back at Newsweek's top stories.$26
 OS/2BOX * The best, most recent OS/2 shareware CD. Fully BBS-ready.....$29
 PC KARAOKE * Complete Karaoke package with microphone! Great CD sound..$68
 PC SIG WINDOWS * Full of the latest Windows shareware..................$19
 PROJECT GUTENBERG * Texts from Project Gutenberg for 1991-1993.........$22
 PUBLISHER'S POWERHOUSE * 750 TrueType fonts + 8200 PCX images w/ book!.$29
 REEL CLIPS * 600mb of royalty-free digital video clips.................$25
>RETURN TO ZORK * Live-action video game w/ Hollywood actors. Great!....$50
>SHAREWARE 93 VOL 2 * Sep. 93 release w/ all new 1993 files! BBS-ready..$20
 SHAREWARE STUDIO 3 * All new files with NO dupes to Night Owl 10!......$25
 SO MUCH SPACE! * A galaxy full of breathtaking scenes from space.......$24
 SPACE SHUTTLE * Multimedia adventure aboard the shuttle w/ 50 missions.$25
 STAR TREK COLLECTIBLES * CD-ROM encyclopedia of Star Trek memorabilia..$59
 STREET ATLAS v2 * Finally, we have an update with tons of new data!....$94
 TECH ARSENAL * 7302 technical-related programs of all types. BBS-ready.$22
>TOTAL HEART * New from the Mayo Clinic people - Interactive guide......$49
 WIN PLATINUM * Very nice new Windows CD with all programs ready to run.$24

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7238
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/12/93 11:56p
Subj: BUY PIER3 GET A CD FREE!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |        Title:  PIER 3         |  |   Price:  $39   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

                             >>> IT'S HERE! <<<

     The wait is over!  Night Owl's closest rival in the shareware CD
     industry has just released their latest disc:  The Pier Shareware 3.
     Since the release of Pier 1 and 2, there has been a growing
     consensus in the CD-ROM industry that Pier CD's simply have no
     equal when it comes to recent files, accurate BBS listings, and
     great user interfaces.  To put it simply folks, if you are looking
     for the absolute BEST shareware CD for your personal or BBS use,
     Pier 3 is the CD you need.  You will not find a better organized,
     more current shareware CD on the world market, at ANY PRICE!

     * 628mb total
     * GUARANTEED free of viruses!
     * Separate <ASP> directory.
     * 100% files dated 1993 S.D.C. (Smart Date Checking utilized)
     * Completely re-written Graphic User Interface for EZ file management,
       which is 300% faster than previous versions!
     * GAP, PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat!, Remote Access FILES.BBS Support.
     * Less then 1% duplication compared to The Pier Shareware 1 & 2.
     * Most current files on the market.  Over 70% dated AFTER 6/93!

                        - DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE -

     File stats for Pier 3:

     92  File   %    Apx 'K'    %        93  File   %    Apx 'K'    %
     ==  ==== =====  ======== =====      ==  ==== =====  ======== =====

      1     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       1     5  0.1%     1,708  0.3%
      2     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       2     6  0.1%     1,066  0.2%
      3     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       3    47  1.0%     5,508  0.9%
      4     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       4   501 11.0%    70,354 11.2%
      5     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       5   693 15.2%    94,210 15.0%
      6     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       6 1,244 27.4%   164,183 26.1%
      7     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       7 1,054 23.2%   156,138 24.8%
      8     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       8   572 12.6%    79,892 12.7%
      9     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       9   421  9.3%    55,188  8.8%
     10     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      10     0  0.0%         0  0.0%
     11     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      11     0  0.0%         0  0.0%
     12     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      12     0  0.0%         0  0.0%
         ---- -----  -------- -----          ---- -----  -------- -----
            0  0.0%         0  0.0%         4,543 99.9%   628,247 99.8%
         ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== =====

That's right - 72% dated newer than 6/93, and 98.4% dated newer than 4/93!
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    2-CD PACKAGE DEAL:  Buy Pier 3, and get Pier 2 for only $10 more!
   LIMITED TIME OFFER:  Buy Pier 3, and get CD Powerbox Shareware FREE!
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                 >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<
                 >>>     DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE!     <<<

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7239
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/12/93 11:56p
Subj: CD-ROM SALE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #4:  CD-ROM LIQUIDATION!   |
         |________________________________________________________|

            All sales are final - Sale limited to stock on hand!

Mega Clipart........$19   Powerpak Gold 3.0...$14   Wrath of the Demon..$27
World Vision 3-Pak..$37   Business Phonebk 91.$13   Bookshelf 1992......$35
Mac Shareware.......$19   Precision Mapping...$68   Mac M/M Space.......$29
Sporting News.......$22   Business Phonebk 92.$14   Game Pack 2.........$22
Original S/W 1993...$10   Phoenix 4.0.........$17   Jedi Collection.....$37
So Much Shareware...$17   Clipart Galore......$22   Reel Clips..........$24
Pier 2..............$19   Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$21   Arizona Images......$19
Top 2000 Shareware..$18   Software Vault 1....$15   CD Powerbox.........$13
California Collct'n.$15   Hobbes OS/2 1992....$10   Sights & Sounds.....$21
K-Tracks Sound F/X..$17   Sounds for Windows..$15   Canadian Shareware..$17

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 7240
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 11/12/93 10:46p
Subj: Re: $25 QUOTE IN QUESTION               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >>Here's the quote you said you didn't see with regard to the competitive
 >pricing
 >>($5 off the lowest price of NightOwl).  Note that while he INITIALLY quoted
 >a
 >>$29 dollar price during the next two days he was quoting a $25 price.

 > The $25 price from Free Spirit appears to have been a pre-order special -
 >their last catalog (and current one) list it at $29.

Yes, that is quite possible...  At that time I was ordering Pier 3 from Mike
Shannon who promised to sell it on this echo for $5 less than the lowest
NightOwl 10 price advertised.  He later claimed that he never saw these $25
dollar ads and charged me the $29 price.  I posted my original message so
that he didn't think I was making up prices and get the $4 credit on my Visa
account.  Mike didn't limit the offer to regular prices, specials, or
pre-order deals.

Michael Crosson





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From: BILL WOOD                              Number: 7241
  To: JOHN HOPKE                               Date: 11/13/93  7:49a
Subj: Re: DOS 6.2                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey, Yeah I know, after I sent it out, I meant 6.2 upgrade from the microsoft
bbs. SORRY Bill
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 7242
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/13/93 10:03p
Subj: Hey There...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Lee!

In a message to Bubba Therrien <11/12/93> Lee Noga wrote:

LN> Hey Big guy, I have been hanging in there despite alot of tragedy in the
LN> CD-ROM business--Was out in LA for CD projects, walked away a winner, and
LN> to pass on several meetings to meet the photographers because the fires h
LN> access hosed up--But, the phone worked as a great alternative. I came bac
LN> feisty :) Thanks for asking--

I have been busy here as well, have been attending regular therapy
sessions and am makeing great improvements. hopefully I will be better
soon!

LN> Always ! May the holidays bring great blessings, yule tides, and rolaids
LN> is if you suffer from 'Oink' syndrome like some of us do <grin>.)

LN> Hugs,

Will be up by your way on Sunday the 14th, visiting a friend < a lady
Friend> in Daytona, just a hop skip and a jump from the Bay area,
Have a good one, talk later.

BTW I already stocked up on Rolaids.<G>
Bubba




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From: BOB LEAR                               Number: 7243
  To: MATT GRAYBEAL                            Date: 11/10/93 10:35a
Subj: LADY CD'S???                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG>Anyone selling any CD's that have pictures or quicktime movies of women on
MG>them, if you know what I mean?

Well, there's Carmen Sandiego, there's Mavis Beacon.   Know what I mean
- wink, win, nudge, nudge.

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From: THOMAS WAGNER                          Number: 7244
  To: IAN SINGER                               Date: 11/13/93  2:26p
Subj: Re: Night Owl 10                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Ian Singer to Janet Smith <=-

 JS>Boris   Need to check on Night Owl 10, there is a virus file in
 JS>directory 20 (games/scenery)  SF2_UP.zip, it contains the memory lapse
 IS> 
 IS> 
 IS> May I suggest that before everyone slams the vendor they check their
 IS> info?? 
 IS> Your statement should read that SCAN 108 reports a virus, and that
 IS> SCAN 108 could be giving a false alarm as it searches for a code string
 IS> which could be present in non virus infected software.
 IS> -!-
 IS> * DeLuxe*/386 1.25 #234 * IDS Place 416-252-1133 Dual 4.5 gig and
 IS> friendly -!- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'d'
 IS>  ! Origin: Westonia BBS Weston, Ontario, Canada (416)241-4784
 IS> (1:250/636) 

How do we know for sure. It reported a virus on my system. I haven't heard
anyone say that the SCAN 108 is actually giving false reports because there is
no virus. Nor have I heard that there is a problem with scan 108. Until someone
actually has proof of which one is wrong, I won't use the disk.


... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: THOMAS WAGNER                          Number: 7245
  To: KIM KLINE                                Date: 11/13/93  4:46p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 






 




 KK> Ah, so the Traci Lords Gifs are the ones making Ver. one the
 KK> collectors item.  I guess I need to try to sell mine, since it is
 KK> a collectors item, and I am not a collector. Anyone have any
 KK> offers? Kim

I'll offer you $50.00 for it if it's version Vol. 1 REL #1. I will pay shipping
and C.O.D charges if you send it to me C.O.D cash only. If you you need to talk
to me about this you can call me at work (717) 273-9450 12noon to 9pm E.S.T.
or can leave a message here and I will call you.



... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: DAVID DOYLE                            Number: 7246
  To: ERIC LUZUM                               Date: 11/13/93  8:07a
Subj: CD-ROM BB for Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> i saw that you solicitied a potential customer by explaining the diff
-> between bb1 r1 and bb1 r2.  I'm interested in this cd and cannot affo
-> collectors version.  could you explain the difference between r2 and
-> an add for r3 for $22 and your asking $35 so there must be a differen
->                                  eric luzum
The main reason that BB1 r.1 is a collectors item is that it contains
images of Traci Lords that are believed to have been taken prior to her
coming of age. and since those pics were suspect they were removed
before the disk got into mass quantities and there for is limited, Rev.
2 has many more copies out there and in place of the Traci Lords GIFs,
was placed a new directory of Txt files.  Version 3 had found that Rev2
had a few other suspect files that were removed and others added in
Rev.3 to get the disk a little more legit.


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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 7247
  To: DON HOOKER                               Date: 11/13/93  8:58p
Subj: Re: CD Encyclopedia for s               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Nov 11 21:10>, Don Hooker of 1:377/50@fidonet writes:

 DH>         Michael, I received the Compton's Encyclopedia CD on 
 DH> Wednesday
 DH> and it was as advertised. The kid's are already doing school 
 DH> reports
 DH> with it. Thanks and a pleasure doing business with you!!  Don
Good! I new you would like this one.

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From: LYLE KANTROVICH                        Number: 7248
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/12/93 12:25a
Subj: A FREE CD CATALOG                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Joe Rinehart to All <=-

 JR> We just completed our November Issue of our CDLIST!  If you'd like
 JR> a  printed copy, send your mailing information to us.

Joe, please mail me a copy of your latest CDLIST.

Lyle Kantrovich
1501 48th st sw #202
Fargo, ND 58103


Thanks.



... Behind every successful man...is the IRS.
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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 7249
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/13/93  7:28a
Subj: CDROM Drive $135                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For Sale:

Mitsumi LU005-S CD-ROM drive.

        350ms access time,
        150-175k/sec transfer rate,
        Meets MPC multi-media specifications,
        B type serial number indicates Kodak Photo-CD
         multi-session compatability,
        Internal half-height,
        Doesn't require caddies for the discs,
        Controller card w/stereo outputs
          (5 IRQs and 3 DMAs for maximum flexibility),
        Drive cable,
        Software drivers on 5.25" and 3.5" floppy disks,
        4 pin audio cable for soundcard connection
          (currently configured for Soundblaster),
        Installation manual,
        Original carton and packing material,

        All in as-new condition!   $135.

Reply in this place, netmail/e-mail, or voice 415-647-2881.

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From: FRANK SESLER                           Number: 7250
  To: DAVID DOYLE                              Date: 11/13/93  2:50p
Subj: CD-ROM BB for Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will give you $25.00.  Let me know.

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From: ALAN BRATTESON                         Number: 7251
  To: RICHIE MOLINELLI                         Date: 11/12/93 11:23p
Subj: Re: Night owl 10                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RM>I am looking for a Night Owl 10 Shareware CD.
RM>
RM>Anyone got one?
RM>
RM>--- FreeMail/SLMAIL v3.1  (#0944)
RM> * Origin: Grinning Evil Death BBS (1:109/627)
Yes and it's all 1993 shareware. I have the full list of file setup for
RBBS. It's worth the 30 or so dollars ..

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7252
  To: THOMAS WAGNER                            Date: 11/13/93 10:19a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Volume II               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please understand, I didn't publish *ANY* of the Busty Babes CDs (or any
others for that fact). I was pointing out the folly of going by a label to
purchase a CD - like "you can't judge a book by it's cover" sort of thing. As
far as using magazine photos on a CD, it's unlikely (IMO) that a publisher
would go for that proposal and to go ahead without his/her permission would
invite trouble, as has been pointed out several times in this echo.

I don't buy shareware CDs either for much the same reason you cite. Moreover,
in my experience, buying them is a much riskier "shot in the dark" than buying
image CDs sight unseen. I think the appreciation for reviews of the image CDs
that's been shown in this echo AND the call for similar reviews vis-a-vis
shareware CDs supports that position.

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From: FRANK GRESH                            Number: 7253
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 11/13/93  8:18a
Subj: BUSTY BABES REVIEW                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>Thanks, Bill. That's certainly my inclination. Frank Gresh seems to have a
                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^
I do ????? Perhaps you have mistaken me for someone else.  I've never
done a shareware review, nor am I a sysop, so I wouldn't feel qualified
to do them.  However, I would certainly consider doing reviews of Adult
CD's, let me expand that to include all image CD's, as a former
professional Photographer, and still an avid photographer, when my EMS
career allows me to be, I feel I could do justice to image CD's, so Bob,
if you're looking for somebody to cover for you while you're on
vacation, let me know..(grin)...Frank

BJ>handle on how to do shareware reviews and I'm content to let him do them. I
BJ>think the readers of this echo would prefer that there were more such review
BJ>and that they'd come a litle closer together. Shareware CDs seem to pop out
BJ>about every 90 days or so. Perhaps I seem more willing to do them (image
BJ>reviews, that is) ASAP after a new release (or whenever I get my hands on on
BJ>haven't seen before) that folks keep asking me to do shareware as well. Chee

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From: DALTON ANDREPONT                       Number: 7254
  To: G. LARRY WEBB                            Date: 11/12/93  5:31a
Subj: MICROSOFT CD-ROMS FOR SALE              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey Larry, what cd's do you have I am interested in purchasing some.  Post if
you still have them.
Dalton



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From: BRIAN ELFERT                           Number: 7255
  To: FREDERICK A. BURGESS                     Date: 11/12/93  7:16a
Subj: DOS 6.2                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> 10 bucks?  Not a bad deal .. shame that CompuUSA is charging 49.95 fo

49.95 is for the full upgrade for those with DOS 5.0 or lower.  CompUSA
charged me $9.49 for the Step-up disk for DOS 6.0 owners.

Brian


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From: CHRIS WOOD                             Number: 7256
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/11/93 10:32p
Subj: Os2Box Report.                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike Shannon wrote in a message to Nino Fagan:

MS> Again not true.  CDFDA reports approx. 416mb on Hobbes, and
MS> almost 300mb on OS/2Box.  That is not half.  Furthermore, it
MS> has been Damar's intent from the very beginning to offer a
MS> CD with ONLY version 2+ OS/2 shareware, which is why it
MS> isn't full.  Hobbes contains many of the older version 1
MS> files, which are all but useless to users of version 2.x.

Sorry, but I just have to point this out to straighten out some clearly biased
information against the Hobbes CD.  Now I'm not flaming you, just stating some
of my results which anyone can try on their CD without a special program to
determine it.  Frankly, I trust a good 'ol DIR *.* /S more myself.

I ran a [dir *.* /s] on the Hobbes CD and came up with this: 625,325,442 bytes 
in 9,671 files.  Of that 625 megs, a [dir *.zip /s] gives this: 474,414,085 
bytes in 1,729 files, a [dir *.zoo /s] gives this:  31,231,323 bytes and a 
[dir
*.dsk /s] gives me 38,770,034 bytes.  For the record, alot of that 9,671 files
are small text files and other Internet files, as well as oodles of Icons,  all
of which are not BBS ready, nor would I want them to be.  So, essentially  your
file totals are pretty accurate but the meggages are off.

That's approx. 544 megs of BBS ready files out of 625 megs.  So essentially the
OS/2BOX CD IS around half the size of HOBBES OS/2 as this fellow said.  Not
exactly half, but close to it.  I don't know where in the world you got  that
416mb total, but it sounds like you pulled it out of a hat.

Also, you said that there are "Many older version 1 files" on the CD.  Again, 
that is also untrue.  I ran another dreaded [dir *.* /s] on the [e:\1_X\] 
directory and it came up with 8,030,326 bytes in 140 files.  Clearly, there 
are VERY FEW 1.X files on Hobbes OS/2 CD.  1.4% of the BBS ready files to be 
precise.  That, in my books works out to virtually none and NOT "many" 1.x 
files on the Hobbes CD.

I'll personally stick to buying Hobbes OS/2 CD and continue to recommend it
over OS/2 Box to other OS/2 users in my region, at user group meetings and at 
work until OS/2 BOX gets a tad bigger at $29.00 US.

Ps. Do you have the Oct/Nov. '93 version of the Hobbes CD for sale?  If so, do
you take CDN orders?  I'd be interested in one to update my 06/93 Hobbes if you
do.

Take care...

Chris, Team OS/2

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From: CHRIS WOOD                             Number: 7257
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/12/93 12:56p
Subj: Hobbes 10/93??                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Is there any Canadian distributor or American distributor that carries the
latest Hobbes OS/2 CDROM.  I believe it would be either a 10/93 or 11/93 press,
as I already have the 06/93.

Please leave a number that I can order from with my Visa if you carry this CD.


Take care...

Chris, Team OS/2

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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 7258
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 11/12/93 10:39a
Subj: Busty Babes Volume II                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (10 Nov 93) Bob Jackson wrote to Thomas Wagner...
 BJ>  TW> Thomas Wagner was saying to Lee Noga on the subject of
 BJ>  TW> Re: Busty Babes Volume I.

  So he didn't like the reviews Bob.  Wouldn't let his biased style
  of review, (by reading the cover sheets) w/o benefit of actually
  viewing the material discourage you from continuing w/your reviews.

  Using the jewel covers is like using Cliff's Notes and than preparing
  a book report.  Oh silly Thomas...you really missed some great images!
  BTW, some of the shareware wasn't so bad either.

  Is he also judging the disk based upon what you and others have said?
  Hot damn Bob, I didn't know you had so much clout.  Now if you could
  just get Lee to send me hugs once in a while toooooooo!!!!!!!

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From: GEOFF FRANGOS @ 910/114                Number: 7259
  To: LANE PETERSON                            Date: 11/10/93 11:20a
Subj: OS2                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LP>Do you know where I can get that OS2 CDROM? I have a sony cdrom drive, that
LP>supported by OS2 isn't it?
  Well I got the OS/2 CD ROM at Software Etc. but I'm sure its available
anywhere that OS/2 is. The Sony drives supported by OS/2 directly are:
  CDU-541, CDU-561, CDU-6211 CDU-6211 and CDU-7211. These are all SCSI.
It is a simple matter to provide support for other drives and models by
downloading the appropriate *.ADD file from the manufacturer and placing it on
the second install floppy that comes with the CD. You also have to edit the

CONFIG.SYS file on the install floppy...Very easy to do and VERY nice to sit
and let the CD do its thing <G>!
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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 7260
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 11/13/93 10:17a
Subj: Changing times...                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (12 Nov 93) Bob Jackson wrote to Lee Noga...

 BJ> Lee Noga was saying to Bob Jackson on the subject of Re: BUSTY BABES
 BJ> REVIEW ...

  Bob & Lee.  Just copping (COPPING for the benefit of youngsters) on a
  comment from Bob.  You know it might not be a bad idea to test market
  a 16 or 24 bit color TGA CD.  Several positive attributes can than be
  included i.e.. hi/Very hi-color, much larger file size (space wasters)
  will quickly fill up a 680mb CD with the 1000 to 1500 images you have
  considered using/choosing.  And, just think many/most folks presently
  have the capability to view 15/16/24/32 bit full color images today.
  Something to consider and think about - NO?

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From: JIM ROBBINS                            Number: 7261
  To: MARGUERITE KENDALL                       Date: 11/13/93 12:41p
Subj: CD_Rom's.                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Re: CD_Rom's.
 
> Am in the market for a CD_Rom for my computer, as I want to start a board.
> Can anyone give me a good idea as to what to look for and the such, like spee
> makes, model and the such.
> Suggestions, are welcome.


my suggestion would be, if you are just planning to use it for a bbs and do
not intend on having more than one drive, possibly 2, just get the
inexpensive, single spin mitsumi internal. i had 2 of them on my bbs and they
work great, and you can pick one up for around 165 bucks, with card and
everything. the specs of this drive are all you need for a bbs, and don't let
anyone tell you otherwise!!
                              jim

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From: LEROY GRIFFITHS                        Number: 7262
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 11/13/93  8:38p
Subj: for sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Hitachi 3500 cd rom drives (need repair - have schematics )
 > $19 each
 > Limited quantities of the following shareware cd rom disc for
 > $10 each: Up All Night, Shareware Studio 2, Cream of the Crop
 > 1.

Ok guy, I'll  bite. I'm interested in one of the CD Drives, and also the
Shareware Studio 2 and Cream Of The Crop 1 discs. How do you want to do this?
Is COD OK? If so, let me know here or Netmail 1:270/316

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From: RICHARD ALAN                           Number: 7263
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/12/93 11:30p
Subj: CATALOG DISCOUNT CD'S                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>     We just completed our November Issue of our CDLIST!  If you'd li
JR> printed copy, send your mailing information to us.

HI Joe,
Put me on that mailing list.
send to:

8471 Magnolia Ave #F
Riverside, CA 92504

Thanx



 * RM 1.2 00367 * Matrimony is the root of all evil.

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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 7264
  To: PHILIP POLSTRA                           Date: 11/12/93  8:34a
Subj: Re: Universal interface                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Philip Polstra to Sysop <=- 
 
 DP> with the CD PowerBox version 2.00 - due out by December 15th.  Buy a copy 
 
 
 PP> Is this to be a newer PowerBox or a completely different PowerBox to 
 PP> put up on my BBS in addition to version 1.00? 
 
 
Completely new - absolutely NO DUPES between versions... 
 
Thanks for your support of the product! 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
The CD PowerBox Guys! 
 
  
... Damar Enterprises - Home of the shareware CD-boxes! 
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From: STEVE RUSSELL                          Number: 7265
  To: WANT AD                                  Date: 11/13/93  5:42p
Subj: Misc for Sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

14"vga monitor with card $100.00 40meg segate Hd $40.00
infotel 2400baud modem new $40.00

386sx33,svga 1meg card,4megs ram,mini tower, modem,40meg HD
dos,windows,much more...


                              call Steve (461-9544)



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From: BRIAN ELFERT                           Number: 7266
  To: KEVIN KIRKLAND                           Date: 11/13/93  6:46a
Subj: SCSI Card Wanted                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I an looking for a affordable SCSI card that can handle SCSI-1
-> and SCSI-2 command sets AND will not mess with the IDE hard drives
-> that are allready installed in my system.  Im new to the SCSI world
-> so any any information on the subject would be welcome.  Thanks....

Just about any SCSI card will work.  That's one of the good things about
SCSI.  WIll coexist with IDE and others.

Brian


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From: IRA WILSKER                            Number: 7267
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/13/93  6:01p
Subj: catalog discount cd's                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>> CD-ROM DRIVE OWNERS, or even if you don't own one, we have them....
  >    We just completed our November Issue of our CDLIST!  If you'd like a
  >printed copy, send your mailing information to us.


Please send your catalog to:

Ira Wilsker
President, Golden Triangle PC Club
5770 Clint Lane
Beaumont, TX 77713-9531

Thanks!
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From: CRAIG SHEPPARD                         Number: 7268
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/13/93  9:24p
Subj: CD For Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        I have one Wing Commander 2/Ultima Underworld CD for sale.
        Hardly used, with all game documentation and in the original
        box.  Asking $40.

Contact me here or at:
Internet:  CraigS4557@aol.com
America On-Line:  CraigS4557
VOICE: (609) 455-5328
BBS:  (609) 451-1028


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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 7269
  To: LOU WILLIAMS                             Date: 11/09/93 10:08p
Subj: Re: Adult Cd For Trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

               -|-  Quoting Lou Williams to Mark Johnsen  -|-


 MJ> Greetings Folks, I have the Asian Ladies CD that I'd like to trade
   > for another adult CD, preferably Southern Beauties or American
   > Girls (right title ?).  I'll consider trades for other adult
   > titles, prefer something more "softcore" in nature, thanks.

   > ,\\ark


 LW> I have PC-PIX vol 2. If interested mail yours to:

Sorry Lou, already have a deal in progress for Island Girls and a
Hawaiian CD.  But thanks for the reply.

 LW> I will send it to you after inspection of yours.

FYI, I wouldn't agree to this type of transaction anyhow, cross
shipping is one thing, but "pre-inspection" is quite another.
I doubt that you'd feel real comfortable sending me your disk in
advance, with the completion of my half of the bargain subject to
"inspection" of the material.  I'm sure you'll find very few here
who are amenable to such an arrangement.

Best regards.

,\\ark



... "Sir, I protest!  I am NOT a merry man!" -- Lt. Worf
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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 7270
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/09/93 10:08p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Volume Ii               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                  -|-  Quoting Lee Noga to David Doyle  -|-

 LN> ... Van Gelder releases a 4 page slam against our new publishing
   > companies, Busty Babes II disc, as if he has ever reviewed a disc
   > before--Funny, how the first disc he reviews, turns out to be
   > mine, and to those that know the background can see the malice all
   > over the review

Lee, I've read about a half a dozen reviews of your latest CD, BB II,
most of which were favorable, with two notable exceptions; one being
from a gentleman (?) who felt the models were some what less than well
endowed, and the other a venom-soaked review by Van Gelder.

I recently ordered BB II from .\\ike Shannon of Starvector, and
anxiously await it's arrival.  I had the luxury of seeing it at a
friends place before ordering, and was amply impressed with both the
quality of the scans, and the pleasant (and professional) selection of
models.  I perform quite a bit of image processing in my work, and was
extremely pleased with your latest effort.

I realize this probably amounts to something of a review, although it
was not intended as such.  More so just to let you know that a few of
us out here appreciate your work, and to reiterate that your CD was
sold to me on it's own merit, and not on the "strength" of the many
reviews.

I appreciate the time and effort put forth by Bob Jackson, and agree
there's probably a place for the less than favorable reviews as well,
but I personally was left with the feeling that Van Jealous's "review"
was more of a CD (character) assassination.  Oh well, that's my opinion.
Probably gonna catch all kinds of flak for it, but in the words of my
first flight sergeant, "I knew the job was dangerous when I took it".

Best regards!   *:)


,\\ark



(,\\ not to be confused with the .\\ of Shannon-fame!)




... Ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care.
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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 7271
  To: LOU WILLIAMS                             Date: 11/10/93 10:02a
Subj: Re: Adult Cd For Trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

               -|-  Quoting Lou Williams to Mark Johnsen  -|-


 MJ> Greetings Folks, I have the Asian Ladies CD that I'd like to trade
   > for another adult CD, preferably Southern Beauties or American
   > Girls (right title ?).  I'll consider trades for other adult
   > titles, prefer something more "softcore" in nature, thanks.

   > ,\\ark


 LW> I have PC-PIX vol 2. If interested mail yours to:

Sorry Lou, already have a deal in progress for Island Girls and a
Hawaiian CD.  But thanks for the reply.

 LW> I will send it to you after inspection of yours.

FYI, I wouldn't agree to this type of transaction anyhow, cross
shipping is one thing, but "pre-inspection" is quite another.
I doubt that you'd feel real comfortable sending me your disk in
advance, with the completion of my half of the bargain subject to
"inspection" of the material.  I'm sure you'll find very few here
who are amenable to such an arrangement.

Best regards.

,\\ark



... "Sir, I protest!  I am NOT a merry man!" -- Lt. Worf
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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 7272
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/10/93 10:02a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Volume Ii               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                  -|-  Quoting Lee Noga to David Doyle  -|-

 LN> ... Van Gelder releases a 4 page slam against our new publishing
   > companies, Busty Babes II disc, as if he has ever reviewed a disc
   > before--Funny, how the first disc he reviews, turns out to be
   > mine, and to those that know the background can see the malice all
   > over the review

Lee, I've read about a half a dozen reviews of your latest CD, BB II,
most of which were favorable, with two notable exceptions; one being
from a gentleman (?) who felt the models were some what less than well
endowed, and the other a venom-soaked review by Van Gelder.

I recently ordered BB II from .\\ike Shannon of Starvector, and
anxiously await it's arrival.  I had the luxury of seeing it at a
friends place before ordering, and was amply impressed with both the
quality of the scans, and the pleasant (and professional) selection of
models.  I perform quite a bit of image processing in my work, and was
extremely pleased with your latest effort.

I realize this probably amounts to something of a review, although it
was not intended as such.  More so just to let you know that a few of
us out here appreciate your work, and to reiterate that your CD was
sold to me on it's own merit, and not on the "strength" of the many
reviews.

I appreciate the time and effort put forth by Bob Jackson, and agree
there's probably a place for the less than favorable reviews as well,
but I personally was left with the feeling that Van Jealous's "review"
was more of a CD (character) assassination.  Oh well, that's my opinion.
Probably gonna catch all kinds of flak for it, but in the words of my
first flight sergeant, "I knew the job was dangerous when I took it".

Best regards!   *:)


,\\ark



(,\\ not to be confused with the .\\ of Shannon-fame!)




... Ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care.
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From: WILLIAM CARTER                         Number: 7273
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/13/93 10:25p
Subj: Catalog discount cd's                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>> CD-ROM DRIVE OWNERS, or even if you don't own one, we have them....
JR>    We just completed our November Issue of our CDLIST!  If you'd like a
JR>printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
JR>>   If you are a sysop & wish us to freq a copy at our expense, just ask!
JR>CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 750 cd-rom disc titles available)
JR>FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176 - WWIVNet 2@265
JR>Joe Rinehart                   Voice: (216) 296-9831
JR>P.O. Box 27                    Data/fax: (216) 296-GIGO(4446) ZyXEL 16.8
JR>Kent, Ohio 44240-0001          >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

Having just sent in an order to you for the first time..
You can send a catalog with the order, if you want.

William Carter
600 E. Sisson Rd.
Freeport, Mi.  49325

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From: GEOFF REED                             Number: 7274
  To: TIM SCHOOLER                             Date: 10/31/93  6:35p
Subj: Encarta                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

<<***** On 10-27-93, Tim Schooler wrote to Geoff Reed: *****>>
GR> buggy as
GR> hell, if you use ANYTHING in encarta, after you finish, you MUST 
GR> reboot your
GR> computer, as the programs for accessing the data in encarta are 
GR> buggy, and
GR> leave the whole enviornment unstable, you'll start getting 
 
 
TS>Must be something in your setup Geoff. I haven't had the first problem.
TS>It's a 
TS>superb reference work, and a hell of a deal at 99.00.
  
  Nope, it's not something in my setup, you've just been lucky.  when I
called
Microsoft to report the problems I was having, i was informed that they
already
knew about the problems and it was a byproduct of encarta being rushed to 
production. the BUGGIEST part of encarta is the 'mind maze' game and if you
use
it, you're guarenteed to get the parity error problems.
 
                                                                   
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From: GEOFF REED                             Number: 7275
  To: FREDERICK A. BURGESS                     Date: 10/31/93  6:38p
Subj: Re:bbs Defense Fund                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

<<***** On 10-27-93, Frederick A. Burgess wrote to Geoff Reed: *****>>
FA>The wonderful Geoff Reed wrote to Dave Reed wrote about Bbs Defense Fund
FA> 
FA> > 
FA> >   It's simple, someone once said " Once a the first link in a chain of
FA> > events is forged, it unaalterably changes the future, once a freedom
FA>is
FA> > lost, you cannot regain it."  
FA> 
FA> 
FA>Last night on Star Trek TNG.  Picard was dealing with a 1/4 blood
FA>Romulan.
FA> 
FA>Good sentiment.
  
  The quote was "borrowed" by the trek writers, I've read it in a biography
of an activist from the 60's i believe...
 
 
                                                
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From: ART MARKO                              Number: 7276
  To: JOHN RICKER                              Date: 11/12/93  5:20p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE - CHEAP!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry...it was sold. Thank you.

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From: DARREN MILLER                          Number: 7277
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/13/93  3:07p
Subj: CDs Wanted                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for the following CDs.  I am interested in replies both by
people who use and like their CDs, and by dealers with killer prices.
And if you happen to be both, well....

1) Bible CD

   Looking for a CD containing mulitiple translations of the Bible, 
   Strong's numbers, Thayer's Greek Lexicon, Hebrew-Aramaic-English 
   Lexicon, "Treasury of Scripture Knowledge", Thompson Chain Topics, 
   Scofield Notes, and Maps, and other commentaries are all desirable
   features.

   Must-have features are a search program (DOS or Windows ok... if
   both, so much the better!), A Note-taking feature.  Ability to
   side-by-side comparison of verses in different translations.

2) Reference CD

   Encyclopedia, Dictionary, Thesaurus, Atlas, Bartlett's Familiar
   Quotations...

3) Shareware CD

   I know there are many of these out there.  I have Phoenix 4.0, and 
   am sorta happy with it.  I'd like a CD that has a lot of useful and
   varied utilities, and has a good search program.  The use of 
   FILE_ID.DIZs and/or other lengthy descriptions of each file is a 
   definite plus.  I would prefer one without too much in the way of
   fonts and graphics.  BBS-readiness is a plus.  I *hate* PC-SIG!

4) Font CD

   A CD filled with installed fonts, preferably TrueType and Adobes.  A 
   good searcher/browser/viewer that doesn't require installation is a
   necessary feature, and a sample book is a plus.

5) Clip-Art CD

   General purpose clip art.  A sample book is a necessity for this
   one, as is a search/browse program with viewing capabilities.

If you know of anything that would fit the above criteria, I please 
send email.  My email addresses are:

Redaxe@aol.com
Redaxe@delphi.com
72030,2455@compuserve.com


... I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere!
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 7278
  To: JOHN PIERCE                              Date: 11/14/93  2:05a
Subj: CD-ROM BB for Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello John!

Monday November 08 1993, John Pierce writes to All:

 JP> I have a copy of Busty Babes for sale, if anyone is interested!
 JP> I've had it for about 3 months, It's in brand new condition!

 JP> Best offer gets it ASAP!

Will offer $20
512-939-9822
Its not that one that cost many $$$ is it?


Pat

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 7279
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/11/93  6:09p
Subj: VIRUS! in NightOwl-10 CD                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MS>JL>This is getting a little disgusting... 
 
MS>Ain't it though!  Maybe that's why we're selling Pier 3's 5:1 over 
  >Night Owl's!  8) 
 
That's funny.  I just pulled it off my BBS and replaced it with Pier 3. 
I have a feeling Night Owls will not be with us much longer unless they 
make some serious changes in their QA dept. <G> 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 7280
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 11/13/93 11:29p
Subj: ALL NEW WINDOWS CD                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris Osadciw beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

BO>}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} A L L   N E W  W I N D O W S  C D {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{
BO>Over 670+Megs        Over 5,500 Files      Virus Checked    Dup Checke
BO>    BBS Ready with direct support for PCBoard, Spitfire and other's
BO>     Largest Collection Of Window Software Anywhere in The World !
BO>               File dates mostly '92 - 93' Very few 91's


Who makes this disc? What is the title?

Ron


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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 7281
  To: FREDERICK A. BURGESS                     Date: 11/14/93  7:15a
Subj: Dos 6.2                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

the 49.95 version is the full version.  10.00 gets you the upgrade to
6.2...


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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 7282
  To: SCOTT RUBY                               Date: 11/14/93  2:54p
Subj: Carmen San Diego for sal                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

20.00 for Carmen San Diego, with instruction book + CD
includes shipping.
602-732-0928 or leave mail

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 7283
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/14/93  3:11p
Subj: cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Carmen Sandiego 20.00
Software toolworks MPC encyclopedia (with full motion video clips)
25.00
includes shipping...

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7284
  To: ALL DEALERS                              Date: 11/13/93 11:36p
Subj: WARNING!! JASON AVARAM                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TO ALL HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE DEALERS:  DO NOT SELL any merchandise to a
person calling himself JASON AVARAM.  This person is illegally using other
people's credit card numbers to order merchandise for himself.  Ron
Urbassik at Goosebump Graphics, myself, and a few other dealers have been
burned by this thief, so be careful!!

Occasionally, as in my case, he had a woman call on his behalf to place
the order.

This team of crooks has merchandise shipped to various addresses in
Florida, which usually turn out to be hotels, or drop boxes, and they
do prefer OVERNIGHT shipping.

Here was the address used for their $194 purchase from us:

                JASON AVARAM
                235 S WYMORE
                ALTAMONTE SPRINGS FL 32714
                407-862-2800

The authorities in Altamonte Springs have been notified, but no word has
been received yet as to their success in tracking these people down, so
if you receive ANY suspicious calls from someone fitting this profile,
CHECK IT OUT THOROUGHLY before shipping anything!!!!

Mike Shannon
Starvector Software

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7285
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/13/93 11:37p
Subj: CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

           ______________________________________________________
          |                                                      |
          |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #3:  CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS   |
          |______________________________________________________|

            We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
             - Cards are not processed until date of shipment -

 CD POWERBOX 2 * What's better and newer than NO10 or Pier 3? One guess.$29
 CD SOURCEBOX * Current code for VisualBasic, Pascal, and C.............$29
 DREAM MACHINE * A "Virtual Valerie" for PC's! "Adaptive" Interaction!..$59
 PC-SIG 13 * Newest CD from the oldest shareware distributor............$33
 SOFTWARE VAULT GAMES COLLECTION * The NEWEST games + BBS-ready!........$26
 SOFTWARE VAULT WINDOWS COLLECTION * Full CD of all-93 Windows stuff!...$26

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7286
  To: RED KENNEDY                              Date: 11/13/93 11:37p
Subj: MIKEY                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RK> > * The magic of Windoze: Turning a 486 into an XT.

RK>I have this 486-50 I keep trying to turn in to an xt do you have any new
RK>   " WINDOZE " cd-rom disc   (-:

Just kidding Red, "DOS in a clown suit" isn't really all that bad.  <g>
Seriously though, we do have the brand new WINDOWS COLLECTION shareware
CD's on the way........should be here sometime this week.  These are put
out by the Software Vault people, and will be the newest Windows CD's out.
Price is $26 w/ free shipping on pre-orders.  Let me know, and I'll reserve
one for you!!

RK>You should have me in your dbase some where....(-:

Yes indeed.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7287
  To: ROBERT MOORE                             Date: 11/13/93 11:37p
Subj: NEW CD-ROM RELEASES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RM>We currently have Night Owl 10, Pier 3 and Software Vault Gold.  We
RM>are
RM>looking to add another to our BBS.  Do you know of a good one
RM>that is BBS
RM>ready?  We were looking at Phoenix v4.0 and PC-Sig v12,
RM>but I was told that they are NOT BBS ready.

PC-SIG 12 is not, but you can "purchase" the file listings from SIG.
Phoenix 4 requires a little elbow grease to make it workable.  A nice
possibility for you would be either Shareware Online 2, or Software
Vault 2.  All files dated 1993.

RM>Hopefully the one you recommend will not have too many dupes with
RM>NO10, P3 &
RM>SVG.  I thought I had read somewhere that NO10, P3 and
RM>SVG between them have
RM>less than 1% dupes.  They seem to have more then that, so I may have
misread something somewhere.

Well, for those who missed it, here's our dupe chart.  Hope it helps:

SVG = SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD   SV2 = SOFTWARE VAULT 2      PR2 = PIER 2
SS2 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 2    SS3 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 3    PR3 = PIER 3
SO2 = SHAREWARE ONLINE 2    N09 = NIGHT OWL 9           N10 = NIGHT OWL 10

             % OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
            ---------------------------------------------------
 >>   Note:  Diagonal reflects % of INTERNAL dupes within a given CD.  <<

            PR2   PR3   N09   N10   SS2   SS3   SO2   SV2   SVG
          +-----------------------------------------------------+
       PR2| .00%  .55% 19.7% 1.72%  .02% 7.30% 20.5% 16.5% 4.59%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       PR3| .55%  .00% 10.2% 36.0%  .00% 8.14% 8.94% 2.20% 24.9%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       NO9|19.7% 10.2%  .12%  .08% 1.24%  .10% 36.8% 19.5% 25.8%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       N10|1.72% 36.0%  .08%  .00%  .31%  .00% 2.38% 1.31% 20.8%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SS2| .02%  .00% 1.24%  .31%  .01%  .12%  .00% 1.58% 2.29%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SS3|7.30% 8.14%  .10%  .00%  .12%  .02% 13.4%  .00% 10.2%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SO2|20.5% 8.94% 36.8% 2.38%  .00% 13.4%  .30% 25.4% 13.9%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SV2|16.5% 2.20% 19.5% 1.31% 1.58%  .00% 25.4%  .01% 1.69%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SVG|4.59% 24.9% 25.8% 20.8% 2.29% 10.2% 13.9% 1.69%  .00%|
          +-----------------------------------------------------+

        PRICES
        ------
        PIER 2..............24.00      PIER 3..............39.00
        NIGHT OWL 9.........25.00      NIGHT OWL 10........29.00
        SHAREWARE STUDIO 2..23.00      SHAREWARE STUDIO 3..25.00
        SOFTWARE VAULT 2....22.00      SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD.25.00
        SHAREWARE ONLINE 2..29.00

Give a shout if you need anything!

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
 509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7288
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/13/93 11:37p
Subj: CD-ROM DUPLICATION CHART                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

------------------------------------------------------------------------
          SHAREWARE CD DUPE CHART II from Starvector Software
------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.3
   (Available on Pier 3, or from the Starvector BBS at 509-457-0206)

SVG = SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD   SV2 = SOFTWARE VAULT 2      PR2 = PIER 2
SS2 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 2    SS3 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 3    PR3 = PIER 3
SO2 = SHAREWARE ONLINE 2    N09 = NIGHT OWL 9           N10 = NIGHT OWL 10

             % OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
            ---------------------------------------------------
 >>   Note:  Diagonal reflects % of INTERNAL dupes within a given CD.  <<

            PR2   PR3   N09   N10   SS2   SS3   SO2   SV2   SVG
          +-----------------------------------------------------+
       PR2| .00%  .55% 19.7% 1.72%  .02% 7.30% 20.5% 16.5% 4.59%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       PR3| .55%  .00% 10.2% 36.0%  .00% 8.14% 8.94% 2.20% 24.9%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       NO9|19.7% 10.2%  .12%  .08% 1.24%  .10% 36.8% 19.5% 25.8%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       N10|1.72% 36.0%  .08%  .00%  .31%  .00% 2.38% 1.31% 20.8%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SS2| .02%  .00% 1.24%  .31%  .01%  .12%  .00% 1.58% 2.29%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SS3|7.30% 8.14%  .10%  .00%  .12%  .02% 13.4%  .00% 10.2%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SO2|20.5% 8.94% 36.8% 2.38%  .00% 13.4%  .30% 25.4% 13.9%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SV2|16.5% 2.20% 19.5% 1.31% 1.58%  .00% 25.4%  .01% 1.69%|
          |-----------------------------------------------------|
       SVG|4.59% 24.9% 25.8% 20.8% 2.29% 10.2% 13.9% 1.69%  .00%|
          +-----------------------------------------------------+

        PRICES
        ------
        PIER 2..............24.00      PIER 3..............39.00
        NIGHT OWL 9.........25.00      NIGHT OWL 10........29.00
        SHAREWARE STUDIO 2..23.00      SHAREWARE STUDIO 3..25.00
        SOFTWARE VAULT 2....24.00      SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD.25.00
        SHAREWARE ONLINE 2..29.00

      SPECIAL OFFER:  Order 2 or more of these titles, and deduct 10%

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE GRIFFIN                           Number: 7289
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 11/14/93  8:49a
Subj: ALL NEW WINDOWS CD                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Boris!

13 Nov 93 00:03, Boris Osadciw wrote to All:

 BO> }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} A L L   N E W  W I N D O W S  C D {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{
 BO> Over 670+Megs        Over 5,500 Files      Virus Checked    Dup Checked
 BO>     BBS Ready with direct support for PCBoard, Spitfire and other's
 BO>      Largest Collection Of Window Software Anywhere in The World !
 BO>                File dates mostly '92 - 93' Very few 91's
 BO>    FREE CD from the author (with purchase) over 2,000+ Hi-Res Images

 BO>                               PRICE - $25.00

 BO> ORDERS ONLY! US/CAN 800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Do you have a catalog? Also.. Do you take Discover, AmEX, Visa and MC?

Mike

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7290
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 11/14/93  8:49a
Subj: BUSTY BABES VOLUME II                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks, Max. Yes the reviews will continue as long as folks find value in them
and I have the help of the producers and some cooperative dealers who'll
facilitate me getting my hands on CDs to review. I guess I keyed off the
statement about 383 (or whatever number) of GIFs on BB V2. I don't know where
he got that number but it wasn't from me! As far as having clout, I don't know
that I have any and - I certainly am NOT seeking any. Thanks again for the
encouragement.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7291
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 11/14/93  8:53a
Subj: CHANGING TIMES...                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I agree it's something to consider, but for now the GIF89a format, which of
course is only 8-bit color, is a de facto standard. I'm still amazed at the
munber of questions, particularly in the CD "information" echo, relating to VGA
boards, and SVGA boards with 512K memory. I'm not sure the "hi-color" baords
have made enough market penetration into buyers of adult CDs yet to make a
hi-color (only) CD successful.  But as you say, it's something to consider.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7292
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 11/14/93  8:57a
Subj: BUSTY BABES REVIEW                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

OH, DEAR!!! I've done it again! I apologise to you and the echo, Frank. I
should know better - I'm one of those types that can never remember
whats-his-name's name. (I guess that's why I wore an ID bracelet until I was 18
<G>).

There was a chap on here that did do a couple of shareware reviews and was/is a
sysop. Clearly I've confused you with him. Maybe I can find his name somewhere
an correct my flub-up.

Ex-pro photog, you say? Me, too. Do you ever hang out in the FIDO PHOTO echo?

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From: DOUG THRUSH @ 924/1                    Number: 7293
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/14/93  1:24a
Subj: New Cd price list 2/3                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

******************************************************************
MS> November 1993           DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST      Last update:
MS> ********************************************************************
MS> CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descri
MS>

I recently purched a cd-drive and have been looking for some good disk's 
 to try out.  I'm wondering if you can mail out the same info that is in 
 "STARCAT.ZIP", in a flyer or booklet.

Diver do it DEEPER and stay DOWN longer!
   
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From: ANDY SCOLLARD                          Number: 7294
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/11/93 11:19p
Subj: best CD's for bbs's are?????            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking into buying a Pioneer DRM-600a or 604x (haven't been able to
decide yet, any recommendations?).  I am looking for the best CD's that my
users will enjoy and would like input from Sysops that are happy from their
purchases.  These are the areas I am interested in:

1.  OS2 2.0+ - From what I have seen, the HOBBES Os2 archives (the new one) is 
       the best choice, didn't read to many good things about the os2box.

2.  Windoze Files (oops, Windows, unfort. alot of people haven't discovered    
              the advantages of os2 yet)...<g> 

3.  GAMES - Nightowl games? 

4.  Graphics - NOTHING ABOUT PG-13!

5.  Sound files

6.  DOS utils, etc...

7.  Best General stuff, new shareware releases, etc..

8.  Christian, Bible...

9.  Any other topic you can think of that I forgot.


Thanks for any input given, -Andy-

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From: ANDY SCOLLARD                          Number: 7295
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 11/12/93 11:37p
Subj: DRM-600a                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I keep reading about your LOW prices...$649...what about the 604x?  

How do I reach you?  I may order one of these from you.

-Andy-

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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 7296
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/12/93  8:46p
Subj: Night Owl Update                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR> THIS IS A MORE DETAILED UPDATE TO MY ORIGINAL POST

Outstanding report! Much better than the one I had ready <g>.


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From: TIM PEETERS                            Number: 7297
  To: ROBERT MOORE                             Date: 11/13/93 10:49p
Subj: NEW CD-ROM RELEASES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Robert!

Wednesday November 10 1993 13:28, Robert Moore wrote to Mike Shannon:

 RM> Hopefully the one you recommend will not have too many dupes with NO10, P3
 RM> & SVG.  I thought I had read somewhere that NO10, P3 and SVG between them
 RM> have less than 1% dupes.  They seem to have more then that, so I may have
 RM> misread something somewhere.


NO10 vs P3 have about 30%, Shareware Studio III might be a nice addition.

SeeYa,
Tim


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From: JOHN PIERCE                            Number: 7298
  To: ERIC LUZUM                               Date: 11/13/93 12:01p
Subj: CD-ROM BB for Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Could you explain the difference between r2 and r3...

You'll have to ask Lee Noga for that information!

-> I saw an add for r3 for $22 and your asking $35 so there must be a
-> difference.

I'm sure there probably is, but the price I offered reflects a
compromise between r1 the more graphic version, and r3 the more tame
version. Since both r1 and r2 are out of production, naturally they are
of more value than r3 which is still being printed!


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From: GREG MUNDA                             Number: 7299
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/12/93  4:54p
Subj: Busty Babes Volume II                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have found that those who yell the loudest, are the ones who have the most to
hide !!!!

By the way Boris insures me that it is your photo on my original busty babes cd
cover !!!!!! :)
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From: MIKE STEFFEN                           Number: 7300
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/14/93  9:00p
Subj: XXX CD for trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I've got XXX Extreme to trade.
Would like Digital Dreams or something along that line.
1-319-234-0938 CST 9-5:30

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From: IAN SINGER                             Number: 7301
  To: JONATHAN MCGIRR                          Date: 11/13/93  4:10p
Subj: Night Owl 10                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JM>Hmmmm....how about when the Vendor has already said that their are two
JM>Viri on the disk?

When I spoke to Richard Graham a week ago, who is the publisher of Night
Owls, he said that the file that was reported as having a virus by SCAN
108 but not by 107 or F-Prot had been sent to McAfee for examination as
they said that that virus does not occur in that type of file.
 
On the second one he was not aware of it at that time, but if in fact
someone did put a self installing program that creates a virus inside a
self extracting .exe inside a .zip they went to a lot of work.  As he
knows where all his files come from, and so do his suppliers it should
be reasonably easy to trace back and lay charges.

I have nothing at all against reporting viruses found on a CD as long
as that report can be backed up first by other detection software.  If
that is not done it could be taken as being very malicious.
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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 7302
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 11/13/93  6:41a
Subj: Magazines 3 of 3                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Okay I never thought about you actually buying the mags
 > themselves. I'll have to look for a copy and see for myself.
 > Thanks for the answer.

I do subscribe to a lot of them, but seeing how there are over 900 titles,
can't get them all. :D

Chris

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From: VICTOR LOBERGER                        Number: 7303
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 11/13/93 10:51a
Subj: SO MUCH SHAREWARE 1 WANT                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF>>     Anyone have a copy of SO MUCH SHAREWARE 1 for sale.

BF> I don't normally stock it (it IS a bit old), but I MAY be able to
BF>get a copy from one of my distributors (1 of them still lists it) and
BF>sell it at $15....


Brice,

     Thanks, but I just bought a copy from Mike.  I just wanted it to 
complete the series.  I already had SMS 2 & 3.  

     I figured I'd post this public so if anyone else sends a message 
regarding SMS 1, they'd see that I've already found a copy.

     Again, thanks for being willing to try and get a copy.  It's 
appreciated.

                                        Victor

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From: JOHN PRITCHARD                         Number: 7304
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/14/93  1:37p
Subj: NEC 3x ?                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Is anyone using the NEC tripel speed portable CD-ROM unit?  How is it? 
 
  Will it work in my system
      486-33 isa
      Genoa 1Mb SVGA
      200Mb IDE HD
      MS-Mouse
      SoundBlaster 16
         MS-DOS 6.2
         QEMM 7.02
?

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From: JIM HILGEFORD                          Number: 7305
  To: CHRIS WOOD                               Date: 11/13/93 10:04p
Subj: Hobbes 10/93??                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (12 Nov 93) Chris Wood wrote to All...

 CW> Is there any Canadian distributor or American distributor that carries
 CW> the latest Hobbes OS/2 CDROM.  I believe it would be either a 10/93 or
 CW> 11/93 press, as I already have the 06/93.
 CW> 
 CW> Please leave a number that I can order from with my Visa if you carry
 CW> this CD.
        You can call 1-800-829-0331. Irving Texas
        Hobbes OS/2 Archives dated 10/93.
        Enjoy


... I can't decide between EDLIN and Word for Windows.

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From: JASON SACK                             Number: 7306
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/14/93  2:06p
Subj: Busty Babes II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ok, Lee please work me on this one then, I use a .28 dot pitch Goldstar VGA
monitor with a 256k video card -do I have to use Showoff to get the clarity you
claim, or can I not simply use Cshow and log to my cd-rom disk drive?  All of
the images that I saw with cshow were terribly grainy.  As for the shareware, I
didn't mind it so much, but I didn't like the same models repeated in different
poses for 10-20 shots at a time!  This is <yawn> boring!  You claim that this
is the way the industry is going -if that's the case, well, I shall buy fewer
cd's I suppose.

Jason Sack
Jsack@realm.tkdcs.waterloo.on.ca
 

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From: BILL ENGLISH                           Number: 7307
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 11/10/93  6:05a
Subj: Hi                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Ismail!

What has happen to you?  I haven't received a Catalog or any new CD
Announcements in a lonnng time.

I am interested in purchasing some New CD's and since I haven't had any contact
with you, I have requested info from another person.

Please send me the latest info on your New CD's.
Thanks

You have my address there.

Bill

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From: BILL ENGLISH                           Number: 7308
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/12/93  7:26p
Subj: Shareware CD Titles                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Joe!

Wednesday November 03 1993 20:02, Joe Rinehart wrote to All:

 JR>   CD CATALOG FREQ:  CDLIST.ZIP or majic name CDLIST
 JR>   COMPLETE CATALOG FREQ:  PARROT.ZIP (contains all products new & used)

is it possible to get a Catalog sent here to FPO?  If so, please send me one
via US Mail to:

Bill English
NAESU PSC 477 Box 78
FPO AP 96306-2778

Thanks

Bill

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From: PAT FAIRCLOTH                          Number: 7309
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/11/93 11:31p
Subj: catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike, have seen your ad and would like to have a copy of your catalog.
Your prices are a breath of fresh air here on the U.S. military bases in
Japan.  I am sure you will notice a large interest from this side of
the world!

         Thanks,

           Pat Faircloth
           17th ASG CM
           Unit 45013 Box 3176
           APO AP 96338

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From: MICHAEL GULLICK                        Number: 7310
  To: DICK HUDDLESTON                          Date: 11/14/93  1:54p
Subj: Re: DOS 6.2                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
 FAB> 10 bucks?  Not a bad deal .. shame that CompuUSA is charging 49.95 for
 FAB> it. 

 DH> Apples and oranges. The $9 is an upgrade ONLY, you must have 6.0 to
 DH> use, the $50 dollars is for full version.

 DH> BTW, anyone used MSCDEX 2.23 yet? How does it work?  My CD-ROM is
 DH> an Hitachi 6000 and is locked into their driver, and since I also run
 DH> OS/2, I can't get my CD ROM to work in OS/2.  There is a 50$ upgrade,
 DH> but gee, for a driver? I will wait awhile.

  I've heard that you can download the STEPUP.EXE file free from
Microsoft, however, BOTH numbers I have for their BBS support just answer
and then just sit there.  I can't seem to communicate with them after the
connect. I did find the STEPUP.EXE file on a local BBS, though.  It is a
self-extracting zip file that upgrades DOS 6.0 to DOS 6.20.  It seems to
work very well.  I am using MSCDEX 2.23 and it works fine.  Also the read
cache for CD-ROM works great but you MUST load MSCDEX *BEFORE* you load
SMARTDRIVE or it will be unable to cache the CD-ROM.  DOS 6.20 will also
allow you to un-stack double spaced drives.  It also asks for verification
before overwriting files with the same name.  The message asks for y/n/all
so if you specified a bunch of files you can overwrite them all without
having to verify each file separately.
  What *I* would like to find is a newer copy of the Sony CD-ROM driver
SLCD.SYS.  Do you know of a Sony BBS (yeah, right) or someplace that would
have such a beast?


 
... There is no substitute for a genuine lack of preparation.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 7311
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 11/14/93 10:09a
Subj: Re: Changing times...                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <11-12-93 09:14> Bob Jackson wrote:

 BJ>  LN> For example, the SB disc, was from 5 years worth of work from
 BJ> one
 BJ> Wow! I had no idea that was the case!

Lee you need to get your facts TOTALLY CORRECT yes SB was 5 years worth of
work from 1 photographer but we had over


40,000 picutes to choose from and ƒocould make easily another

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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 7312
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 11/14/93 10:21a
Subj: Re: Changing times...                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <11-12-93 09:14> Bob Jackson wrote:

 BJ>  LN> For example, the SB disc, was from 5 years worth of work from
 BJ> one
 BJ> Wow! I had no idea that was the case!

Lee here you go again talking about something that you think that you know
about. Yes everyone SB was from 5 years worth of work from 1 photographer but
we looked at over 21,000 images and choose the 1000 that we did for the SB
disc that we felt met the quality that we wanted to publisher not like some
publisher that have to publish what is supplied to them, and there is still
more then enough pictures from the 21,000 to make 5 to 7 more FULL & QUALITY
disc. So Lee before you state your facts you might wanna have them right.

                        Blaine Richard

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7313
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/13/93 11:14a
Subj: Re: "R"                                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike Shannon was saying to All on the subject of "R" ...
 MS> American Girls (New!).........34.00
     Photo Gallery (New!)..........34.00
     Girls of Mardi Gras (New!)....43.00

Send me these three "for review", Mike.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7314
  To: KIM KLINE                                Date: 11/13/93 11:15a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Kim Kline was saying to John Pierce on the subject of Re: BUSTY BABES 1 ...
 KK> Ah, so the Traci Lords Gifs are the ones making Ver. one the
 KK> collectors item.  I guess I need to try to sell mine, since it is
 KK> a collectors item, and I am not a collector. Anyone have any
 KK> offers? Kim

$50 postpaid.

... Alas! The poor Tagline. I knew it well.
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From: THOMAS WAGNER                          Number: 7315
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 11/14/93  8:27p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Volume II               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I don't see why a magazine publiser would not go for it. Many of the images
on the earlier Busty Babes CD, I reconize as scans of photos that were
published in magazines. It could work to both the magazine and CD publiher's
advantage. The magazine could sell the CD and the CD could promote the
magazine.
                       ton

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 7316
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 11/14/93 10:51p
Subj: for sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Terry!

Friday November 12 1993, Terry Blount writes to all:

 TB> Limited quantities of the following shareware cd rom disc for $10 each: Up
 TB> All Night, Shareware Studio 2, Cream of the Crop 1.

will take all there of these can you send them to me you have the address or do
you want me to send the money, reply and let me know, thanks

Pat

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From: STEPHEN CANTERBURY                     Number: 7317
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/14/93  2:58p
Subj: CD-ROM Disk Titles                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

               
                           DiskWare Distributors             
               

         The following are just a few CD ROM Disk titles available
   from DiskWare:


         Night Owl 10 Shareware Collection - BBS Ready     $29.00
           100 meg of files from Sept. 1993.


         King's Quest VI                                   $49.00


         Compton's Encyclopedia                            $99.00


         Seventh Guest - The Best game ever made!!!        $53.00


     Please add $4.50 Shipping and Handling. All orders shipped via
UPS Ground unless other arrangements are made. California residents
please add local sales tax.


    Hundreds of titles are available at discount prices. Send
  your name and address for a free catalog on floppy disk. Please enclose
  $1.00 shipping and handling. Catalog is available for download or freq
  at the BBS line listed below. File name of catalog - CTLG1193.ZIP.
  Please allow 2-4 weeks for delivery.


                          DiskWare Distributors
                          730 Fine St
                          Fillmore, Ca.  93015

                          (805) 524-6822 (voice)
                          (805) 524-3784 (BBS)
                          ITCnet address - 85:805/150
                                           85:805/154
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From: SHAWN FRIESEN                          Number: 7318
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/14/93  6:11p
Subj: Ello...                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anybody have/or has played the game "The 7th Guest"? If so, I'm
wondering how the scrolling speed of it is for your computer... If it is
a contineous patern ------------------ could you please give me the
stats of your computer because I'm looking to upgrade, and I want to
know what kinda hardware would give me that kind of scrolling
capabilities... My scrolling is like -   -   -   -   -   -  - Etc..
Maybe like half a second to scroll one screen? In otherwords you can see
it "pause"!

Your help will be most usefull...


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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7319
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/13/93  2:00a
Subj: Cream  of the Crop                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

      New Release 11/12/93 - BBS Ready - 654 Megs - 4469 Pkzipped files

                   ANNOUNCING Cream of the Crop II! $29.00

        No files older then January 1993 within the archives released between
April through October 1993!

        If you are a programmer, especially Pascal, you'll love this disc
with 14 megs full of Pascal source code - over 330 files!

        Files.bbs in every directory with multi-line descriptions and
additional setup utilities for Maximus, Spitfire, Proboard, RA, QBBS, and
PCBoard.  We at config.sys will be offerring RBBS & Major (Galacticom) setups
upon completion.  To order contact: Joe Rinehart, P.O.Box 27, Kent, Oh.,
44240-0001, voice: 216-296-9831, ZyXEL data/fax: 216-296-4446 Our new &
improved user friendly price list may be requested as CDLIST.zip! Better yet,
we will File attach our CDLIST of over 850 titles for any sysop
Internationally, via Fidonet, Keshernet, RBBSnet, & WWIVnet at our expense,
upon request! 10% sysop discount!

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7320
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/13/93  2:01a
Subj: Adult titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                  "NEW & IMPROVED USER-FRIENDLY PRICE LIST!"
       "WE DON'T CARE ABOUT MAKING MONEY - WE JUST LOVE TO SELL CD'S!"
        Over 850 disc titles & hardware products are now available.
To order, contact:
                                 Joe Rinehart
                                 P.O. Box 27
                            Kent, Ohio 44240-0001
  Voice: (216) 296-9831  24 hours
  Voice: (216) 296-1633 6pm-midnight (EST)
  Voice/Messages/Fax: (216) 297-1332 24 hours
  Toll-Free (in Ohio Only) 1-800-521-2881 6pm - midnight (EST)
  Data/Fax (216) 296-4446 ZyXel 16.8 v.42bis The Blue Parrot RBBS 24HRS
  FidoNet: 1:157/479
  KesherNet: 18:711/176
  RBBSNet: 8:965/13
  WWIVNet: 2@2659
  CD CATALOG FREQ:  CDLIST.ZIP or majic name CDLIST
  COMPLETE CATALOG FREQ:  PARROT.ZIP (contains all products new & used)

SHIPPING TERMS:  Purchaser pays shipping!  $5.00 C.O.D.Charge, 2 lbs or less
for $2.90 second day U.S.P.S. Priority Mail.  $1.00 Handling fee on orders
under $50.00.  3rd Class shipping on request. All orders are insured.
International orders shipped acccording to U.S. Customs regulations.

MISC. INFORMATION:
All prices are in U.S. Currency.
Make checks payable to:  Carl Knorr or Joe Rinehart
10% discount on CD-Titles for verified sysops or resale orders over $250!
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CD Caddies                                  mi    5.00  with disc order 4.50

New Machine CD Adult Sampler ROM                 a      10.00
SuperSpace                                       a      16.00
Hawaii CD                                        a      19.00
Island Girls                                     a      19.00
Local Girls                                      a      19.00
T & A 2 the Maxx                                 a      19.98
Hacker Whacker Fun Pack                          a      21.00
Phone Sex                                        a      21.98
Women of Venus                                   a      22.40
Exotic Girls                                     a      24.00
Smutware                                         a      24.00
Gifs Galaxy                                      a      25.60
Cyborgasm                                        a      25.98
Digital Dreams                                   a      27.00
Amateur Model                                    a      27.98
Adult Palette                                    a      28.80
Animation Festival                               a      28.80
Extreme Delight (adult CD)                       a      28.80
Giffy Gold                                       a      28.80
Assets                                           a      29.00
Busty Babes Volume 2 - Brand new!                a      29.00
Commodities                                      a      29.00
Dividends                                        a      29.00
Manpower                                         a      29.00
FAO Volume 1                                     a      30.00
FAO Volume 2                                     a      30.00
FAO Volume 3                                     a      30.00
Storm I                                          a      30.00
Wild Women                                       a      30.00
American Girls (200 soft nudes)                  a      30.40
Cr‚me de la Cr‚me                                a      30.40
High Volume Nudes                                a      30.40
Women Who Love Men Who Love Women                a      30.40
Photo Gallery by Steve Hicks                     a      31.97
Fat Dog Exposed                                  a      31.98
Southern Beauties                                a      32.50
Hot Pix 3                                        a      33.00
Hot Pix 4                                        a      33.00
Hot Pix 5                                        a      33.00
Island Girls V2                                  a      33.00
Local Girls Volume 2                             a      33.00
Physical Therapy                                 a      33.00
Tropical Girls                                   a      33.00
Adult Reference Library                          a      34.00
Sweet Dreams                                     a      34.50
All Beauties                                     a      35.00
Camp Double DD                                   a      35.00
Erotic Encounters                                a      35.00
Girls, Girls, Girls, Girls                       a      35.00
Storm II                                         a      35.00
Swimwear & More, Volume I                        a      35.00
Weekend at Ernie's                               a      35.00
PGGl - Adult Gif disk by Groupware               a      36.00
Lovely Ladies II                                 a      36.80
Girls of Vivid #1                                a      37.50
Girls of Vivid #2                                a      37.50
Busting Out/vivid Digital                        a      38.40
Debbie Does Dallas                               a      38.40
Deep Throat                                      a      38.40
Insatiable                                       a      38.40
New Wave Hookers Vol. 1                          a      38.40
New Wave Hookers Vol. 2                          a      38.40
Nova Collection Volume I                         a      38.40
Rimfire Pacific Video                            a      38.40
Seedy Movies                                     a      38.40
The Devil in Miss Jones                          a      38.40
Caf‚ Flesh                                       a      39.97
101 Sex Positions #1                             a      40.00
101 Sex Positions #2                             a      40.00
After Dark Trilogy                               a      40.00
Busty Babes, Volume I (3.0)                      a      40.00
Devil in Miss Jones                              a      40.00
Dirty Talk                                       a      40.00
Fractal Ecstasy                                  a      40.00
Tranz                                            a      40.00
Mystic of the Orient                             a      40.50
Amorous Asian Girls                              a      41.00
College Girls                                    a      41.00
3-D Body Adventure                               a      42.00
Condo Cuties                                     a      42.00
Erotic Encounters                                a      42.00
Girls of Mardi Gras                              a      42.00
Princess of Persia                               a      42.00
Best of Vivid                                    a      42.50
Kama Sutra                                       a      42.50
Legends of Porn vol. 2                           a      42.50
Asian Ladies                                     a      43.00
Wicked Whispers                                  a      43.00
Animated Fantasies II                            a      44.00
L A Strippers (Interactive)                      a      44.80
My First Time                                    a      44.80
Nightwatch                                       a      44.80
Ecstacy Hot Pics                                 a      45.00
FAO Gold I                                       a      45.00
My Private Collection Volume 2                   a      45.00
PC Pix Vol 3                                     a      45.00
Porkware II                                      a      45.00
Secrets                                          a      45.00
Storm III                                        a      45.00
House of Sleeping Beauties                       a      46.40
King Dong                                        a      47.00
Adventures of Seymour Butts                      a      48.00
Adventures of Seymour Butts Windows              a      48.00
Bangkok II                                       a      48.00
Digital Dancing                                  a      48.00
Dream Machine (IBM)                              a      48.00
Dream Machine (Macintosh)                        a      48.00
Erotic Dreams (R-Rated Interactive)              a      48.00
Hidden Obsessions                                a      48.00
House of Dreams Digital Movies                   a      48.00
Night Trips Interactive Adult                    a      48.00


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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7321
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/13/93  2:01a
Subj: Adult titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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Private Pictures I                               a      48.00
Relationship Enhancement Series v1               a      48.00
Things Change-- 1st Time                         a      48.00
Betrayal Quicktime Movie                         a      50.00
Cat and Mouse (Quicktime)                        a      50.00
Doors of Passion                                 a      50.00
Ecstasy Hot Pics                                 a      50.00
Wicked - DOS version                             a      50.00
Wicked - Windows                                 a      50.00
Club Paradise                                    a      51.00
Wickedmovie (ONLY) Quicktime                     a      51.25
Bangkok                                          a      53.00
Porkware                                         a      53.00
Dream Machine (IBM)                              a      54.00
Dream Machine (Mac)                              a      54.00
Glamour Girls of 1943                            a      54.00
Inferno                                          a      54.00
Penthouse Interactive                            a      54.00
Sorority House (IBM)                             a      54.00
Buttman                                          a      56.00
Secrets                                          a      57.00
Sorority House (Mac)                             a      57.00
Paradise Club                                    a      60.00
Adult Movie Almanac                              a      65.00
Animated Fantasies                               a      67.50
Volcano                                          a      67.50
Interactive Adult Almanac/Macintosh              a      68.60
Moving Fantasies                                 a      75.00
Visual Fantasies                                 a      75.00
Donatelli Portfolio                              a      79.00
Interactive Adult Almanac (IBM)                  a      79.00
Erotic Caf‚ (Quicktime)                          a      89.00
Adult Movie Almanac                              a      95.00
My Private Collection                            a     120.00

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7322
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/13/93  2:02a
Subj: Shareware titles                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                  "NEW & IMPROVED USER-FRIENDLY PRICE LIST!"
       "WE DON'T CARE ABOUT MAKING MONEY - WE JUST LOVE TO SELL CD'S!"
        Over 850 disc titles & hardware products are now available.
To order, contact:
                                 Joe Rinehart
                                 P.O. Box 27
                            Kent, Ohio 44240-0001
  Voice: (216) 296-9831  24 hours
  Voice: (216) 296-1633 6pm-midnight (EST)
  Voice/Messages/Fax: (216) 297-1332 24 hours
  Toll-Free (in Ohio Only) 1-800-521-2881 6pm - midnight (EST)
  Data/Fax (216) 296-4446 ZyXel 16.8 v.42bis The Blue Parrot RBBS 24HRS
  FidoNet: 1:157/479
  KesherNet: 18:711/176
  RBBSNet: 8:965/13
  WWIVNet: 2@2659
  CD CATALOG FREQ:  CDLIST.ZIP or majic name CDLIST
  COMPLETE CATALOG FREQ:  PARROT.ZIP (contains all products new & used)

SHIPPING TERMS:  Purchaser pays shipping!  $5.00 C.O.D.Charge, 2 lbs or less
for $2.90 second day U.S.P.S. Priority Mail.  $1.00 Handling fee on orders
under $50.00.  3rd Class shipping on request. All orders are insured.
International orders shipped acccording to U.S. Customs regulations.

MISC. INFORMATION:
All prices are in U.S. Currency.
Make checks payable to:  Carl Knorr or Joe Rinehart
10% discount on CD-Titles for verified sysops or resale orders over $250!
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CD Caddies                                  mi    5.00  with disc order 4.50

PC Sig 7                                    sh    7.25
PC Sig 9                                    sh    7.25
Phoenix 3.0                                 sh    8.70
Ham Radio                                   sh   10.88
Original Shareware l992                     sh   10.88
Shareware Overload                          sh   10.88
Windoware                                   sh   10.88
Windows Plus                                sh   10.88
Software Vault I                            sh   11.60
The California Collection                   sh   11.60
VGA Spectrum I                              sh   11.60
Wizpack                                     sh   11.60
1001 Utilities                              sh   13.05
America's Premier Shareware                 sh   13.05
CICA Microsoft windows                      sh   13.05
QRZ Ham Radio                               sh   13.05
Shareware Heaven                            sh   13.05
Software Vault II                           sh   13.05
Super CD II                                 sh   13.05
Remstar Vol. I                              sh   14.50
Shareware Studio II                         sh   14.50
VGA Spectrum II                             sh   14.50
Adventures in Heaven                        sh   15.95
Learning Heaven                             sh   15.95
Phoenix Rom 4.0                             sh   15.95
Doctor of Shareware                         sh   17.40
Doctor of Windows                           sh   17.40
Games Bonanza + Anti virus (1993)           sh   17.40
Hamware 1993                                sh   17.40
Info MAC shareware for Macintosh            sh   17.40
Mega CD rom 1                               sh   17.40
Night Owl 4.1                               sh   17.40
Night Owl 4.2                               sh   17.40
PC Sig World of Windows                     sh   17.40
Power Pak Gold                              sh   17.40
Shareware Gold II                           sh   17.40
Shareware Online I                          sh   17.40
Shareware Online Volume 2                   sh   17.40
Shareware Tiger                             sh   17.40
Straight from Heaven                        sh   17.40
Top 2000+ Shareware                         sh   17.40
Ultimate Shareware Collection               sh   17.40
Up All Night                                sh   17.40
Windows Master                              sh   17.40
Windows Shareware Gold Vol 3                sh   17.40
Business Tools                              sh   18.85
Media Library Mega Media 1                  sh   18.85
Media Library Mega Media 2                  sh   18.85
Media Library-- Mega Media 3                sh   18.85
DataBase Made Easy                          sh   20.30
ASP Advantage (ASP Shareware)               sh   20.30  (Released 10/18/93)
All American Shareware Galore               sh   21.75
Doctor of Fun Pack                          sh   21.75
Hacker Chronicles                           sh   21.75
PC Sig 12                                   sh   21.75
Phoenix Phun & Games                        sh   21.75
Shareware 1993 September                    sh   21.75
So Much Shareware 2                         sh   21.75
So Much Shareware 3                         sh   21.75
Ultimate Shareware Collection 2             sh   21.75
Windows 1993                                sh   21.75
MS-Dos Explorer-- Volume 3                  sh   23.20
Night Owl 9                                 sh   24.65
Night Owl Graphics ROM                      sh   24.65
Resource Library Language Operation         sh   24.65
Winware #3                                  sh   24.65
Monster Media 93                            sh   26.10
Shareware Avalanche                         sh   26.10
Shareware Explorer WINDOWS version          sh   26.10
Gigabyte Gold                               sh   27.55
Mega A/V 1                                  sh   27.55
Mega CD rom 2                               sh   27.55
Mega WIN/OS2                                sh   27.55
Shareware Perlen 2                          sh   27.55
Amsoft World of Ham Radio Vol. II           sh   31.90
RBBS in a Box                               sh   31.90
Night Owl 10                                sh   32.63
Lion Share                                  sh   36.25
Shareware Extravaganza                      sh   40.60
Wildcat Gold                                sh   42.05
World Vision                                sh   42.05
Shareware Magic                             sh   43.50
Libris Britannia                            sh   47.85
Shareware Explorer Quad Vers/4 ROMS         sh   50.00
Hamcall - April 1993                        sh   53.00
Windows Paradise                            sh   75.00

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7323
  To: RBBS SYSOPS                              Date: 11/14/93 10:15p
Subj: RBBS FMS Cream of the Crop sale         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>   Terry Blount's "Cream of the Crop II" released 11/12/93 for $28.50!

>       BBS READY, with RBBS extended description support from the Blue
>Parrot RBBS.

        On-line for review & IMMEDIATE SHIPPING orders may also be placed
via: Joe Rinehart, The Blue Parrot, 1:157/479@fido, 8:965/13@rbbs,
18:176/711@kesher, or 2@2659 wwiv.  ZyXEL 16.8 data/fax: 216.296.4446,
voice: 216.296.9831, or voice: 216.296.1633 6pm-mid EST.
>RBBS complete conference setup FREQ avail as CC2RBBS.zip (893k) w/instrc.

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From: JASON SAUVE                            Number: 7324
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/10/93  5:20p
Subj: Night Owl 10 Dealer Recal               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To: JOE RINEHART
Subject: Night Owl 10 Dealer Recall

JR>Subject: Night Owl 10 Dealer Recall

JR>SCAN 9.19 V108     1993/11/7   01:03
JR>Options: E:*.* /BELL /CHKHI /DATE /M /REPORT C:\SCAN.RPT /SUB
JR>Scanning Volume: MS-RAMDRIVE
JR>>Scanning E:.\INSTALL.COM
JR>>  Found the Butterfly [Bfly] Virus
JR>>Scanning E:.\DOCUMENT.COM
JR>>  Found the Butterfly [Bfly] Virus
JR>>Scanning E:.\SPORTS.COM
JR>>  Found the Butterfly [Bfly] Virus
JR>> Found 3 files containing viruses.

JR>SCAN 9.19 V108     1993/11/7   00:50
JR>Options: E:*.* /BELL /CHKHI /DATE /M /REPORT C:\SCAN.RPT /SUB
JR>Scanning Volume: MS-RAMDRIVE
JR>>Scanning E:.\SF2-UP.EXE
JR>>  Found the Memory Lapse [ML] Virus
JR>> Found 1 file containing a virus.

Could you tell me what directory and archives them files are compressed in so
i can avoid them? Thanks,

Jason

-=-
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From: BRIAN BAUMGARDNER                      Number: 7325
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/15/93  5:46a
Subj: cd-rom RPG                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

is there any good roleplaying (fantasy) games out on cd
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 7326
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/13/93  6:47p
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MS>                  Computer Works 
  >             "Reputable CD-Rom Sales!" 
 
MS>Oh yeah?  Then how come you keep buying from me??????  8) 8) 
 
MS>Starvector Software 
  >"Shady, and proud of it" 
 
Hey, I'm not proud!  I just buy from the distributor who gives me the 
best wholesale price on a given title, even if he IS shady! <Smile> 
I even tried getting some of the alleged $20 Night Owl 10's, but they 
never showed up. ;) 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 7327
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/13/93  6:50p
Subj: So Much Shareware 1 Want                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MS>Too late Jim.....Victor already picked up my very last So Much 1!  I blew 
  >the dust off 'er and sent 'er packin! <g> 
 
That's okay.  Most users don't really see the dupes anyway.  It is a 
good series especially for Spitfire Sysops like myself. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 7328
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/13/93  8:49p
Subj: Shareware & Game CD-Roms                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

             *********   Computer Works CD-Rom Sales!   ********* 
                                Popular Titles 
 
Shareware                         Games 
 
Night Owl 10..............$32     The 7th Guest....................$49 
Pier 3....................$35     Battle Chess Enhanced............$31 
Software Vault Gold.......$27     Chess Master 3000................$24 
Big Sky ROM...............$26     Chess Maniac 5 Billion...........$52 
Tech Arsenal..............$39     The Dagger of Amon Ra............$39 
So Much Shareware 3.......$26     King's Quest VI..................$49 
Shareware Explorer 4 CDs..$53     Mantis Experimental Fighter......$22 
Hacker Chronicles.........$25     Sherlock Holmes Cons. Detective..$22 
CD Winbox.................$29     Giga Games (BBS Ready)...........$18 
Software Vault II.........$23     Gameware Collection (BBS Ready)..$22 
Shareware Online II.......$29     Where in the World is Carmen.....$27 
 
Computer Works                  For a file containing all descriptions 
CD-Rom Sales!                   download CATALOG.ZIP from our BBS. 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS              Online Orders, File Lists, Catalogs 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 7329
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/13/93  8:51p
Subj: Popular Titles                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

             *********   Computer Works CD-Rom Sales!   ********* 
                                Popular Titles 
 
Precision Mapping.........$76     The Business Master..............$19 
Grolier MPC Encyclopedia..$44     American Business Phonebook......$16 
US & World Atlas..........$22     Microsoft Works..................$39 
Reference Library.........$19     Prophone Business 1993...........$26 
The Animals MPC...........$24     Desktop Publishers Dream Disc....$37 
Mayo Clinic...............$26     Publishers Paradise..............$32 
The Family Doctor.........$24     Encyclopedia of Clipart..........$24 
Firearms Reference 1993...$29     GIFs Galore......................$16 
US History PC/MAC.........$27     MacMillan Dict. for Children.....$29 
Audubon's Mammals.........$21     Kodak Photo CD for Windows.......$19 
Holy Bible................$22     Tempra Access Photo CD Imaging...$18 
 
Computer Works                  For a file containing all descriptions 
CD-Rom Sales!                   download CATALOG.ZIP from our BBS. 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS              Online Orders, File Lists, Catalogs 
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From: MICHAEL GOODHUE                        Number: 7330
  To: BILL WOOD                                Date: 11/14/93  3:08a
Subj: Re: DOS 6.2                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  I have dos 6.0 but I don't have the original disks...I can zip it all up 
  for the most part....I still have to download the update to 6.2 from 
  Microsoft BBS....I hope to get it sometime this week. 
 
 
... Pardon Me, But Would You Have Any Blue Poupon? 
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From: KAWAI WONG                             Number: 7331
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/15/93  4:02p
Subj: Toshiba CD-ROM needed!!!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        I am looking for a Toshiba 3301 external SCSI CD-ROM (300ms/150KB) for
use of my BBS, so new or used doen't really matter as long as it is in good
condition.  Will take 2 for a good price.
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From: STEVEN O'BRIEN                         Number: 7332
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/14/93  2:40p
Subj: WANTED : My PRIV Collection             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TO ALL:
   Looking for My Private Collection CD-ROM. I believe there is I & II out
there.  Well if there is someone out there selling one or both I would
probably be interested! If you are selling them commmercially and there is a
way to D/L the files list that would help! Later,

Steve

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From: STEVE KRAISLER                         Number: 7333
  To: MIKE RUSSELL                             Date: 11/14/93 11:29a
Subj: Movies..                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MR>Info Business Inc.
MR>887 Orem Blvd
MR>Orem, UT. 84058-5009
MR>1-800-221-1100

MR>I have a cd called Mega Movie it has 50,000 movie reviews
MR>and goes back to the early 1900's

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How much is it?
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From: KEITH LOONEY                           Number: 7334
  To: KIM KLINE                                Date: 11/15/93 10:18a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If is version 1, I'll offer $75 for it.

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From: BERNT MANSSON                          Number: 7335
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/13/93 10:07a
Subj: Movies..                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JR> We have place you on our mailing list and will also be calling you
 JR> direct with a file attach message of our cdlist.zip around midnight
 JR> your time tonight. Joe Rinehart
 JR> 1:157/479
 JR> config.sys, Inc.
 JR> CD-ROM DISC sales dept.

Thanx a million! I Got the List! I'll get back to via netmail regarding
details!

/Bernt




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From: DOUGLAS BELL                           Number: 7336
  To: CALVIN CHAN                              Date: 11/15/93 10:06a
Subj: Gus & Pas Info                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CCúThanks for the info. I perfer the GUS a little bit more since I've already g
CCúa SB. So, compatability isn't a problem. BTW, do you know anyone who has
CCúSUCCESSFULLY connected a CD Rom to the GUS?

No, I'm sure it's been done considering there are like 3-4 different
interface options for CD-ROM's ..

 * OLX 2.2 * ú Time in a bottle ú And I'm all out of Bottles ! ú
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From: DOUGLAS BELL                           Number: 7337
  To: CHRIS ZITO                               Date: 11/15/93 10:06a
Subj: Gus or Pas16?                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CZúBuy the GUS, basically because it now has better support than the Pas16.  Of
CZúcourse, I'm going to hear some nasty "you don't know what you're talking abo
CZúmessages as soon as this message gets around. But, it is true.  The GUs now

Hey now .. Well, It's true .. I've always been a BIG PAS-16 fan, but I
think the GUS has a better hold and more potential than the PAS-16 now

Funny thing though, I own an Orchid SoundWave 32 instead !!

CZúsupport for most SB programs and MT-32 in wavetable as well.  Not only that,
CZúbut there is a new driver that allows the GUs to play both SB fx AND General
CZúMIDI at the same time ! This of course is in addition to the huge support GU
CZúhas been getting from game companies, such as Id, Epic, Apogee, Electronic
CZúArts, Sierra, and many others.  The GUS also sounds ALOT better than the PAS
CZúmusicwise because the GUS doesn't use FM.  Not only that, the GUS is cheaper

Turtle Beach has a new card out that looks to be REAL nice .. I've gotta
get some info on it .. Has 4mBYTE's of ROM and 1-2 of RAM and let's you
load WAV's into the MIDI slots to use as instruments .. And TB has
always been a good quality ..

 * OLX 2.2 * ú Time in a bottle ú And I'm all out of Bottles ! ú
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 7338
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 11/15/93  7:50a
Subj: cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Jeff!

Sunday November 14 1993, Jeff Jenkins writes to All:

 JJ> Carmen Sandiego 20.00
 JJ> Software toolworks MPC encyclopedia (with full motion video clips)
 JJ> 25.00
 JJ> includes shipping...

Found Carmen Sandiego local for $20 will offer $15


Pat

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From: DAVID RYDER                            Number: 7339
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 11/15/93 11:17p
Subj: Lost Order                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


    Boris, do you have any information on the status of my order yet?

    It has been about 3 weeks since you were going to trace it back
    through the post office, and I have heard nothing since I spoke to
    you about 10 days ago.


***David.
 Entered Nov 15,93 from Mississauga, Ontario.    rn.1063@rose.com
   
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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 7340
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 11/08/93  6:16p
Subj: Universal Interface                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DP> with the CD PowerBox version 2.00 - due out by December 15th.  Buy a copy 

Is this to be a newer PowerBox or a completely different PowerBox to put up on
my BBS in addition to version 1.00?


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7341
  To: TYRONE THOMASON                          Date: 11/15/93  1:31a
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TT>Ahhh! hah, hah,hah.....  Oh Mike, you just crack me up!  Just cheese and
TT>be happy!  ;{)

Oh, OK.  cheese!!

TT>By the way, which do you think is better, Pro-Phone or Phonedisc USA?
TT>Both claim about the same, just one is seven disc and the other is 3.

Well, I've used my copy of ProPhone 93 countless times to look people up,
and have only had a few "missing persons", but from what I hear, Phonedisc
is more up to date.  We have both in stock if you're interested.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7342
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 11/15/93  1:31a
Subj: Os2Box Report.                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>I was wondering if anybody else had noticed the job they did on the file
JL>dates.  I found 19 files dated in the future in the very first directory
JL>I looked at (#3).  This disc had a lot of potential, and maybe still

Yes, and I found 80 or so on Hobbes that were dated 12/93!  Probably from
the same source.

.\\ike

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From: BOB BREED                              Number: 7343
  To: JIM LUND                                 Date: 11/15/93  1:59p
Subj: TOSHIBA CD-ROM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JL> Looking for older Tosh. CD-ROM's working or not.
 JL> Please Leave a message here with price and condition


    I have a Toshiba 3100b that wont load the caddy. Started 
acting funny on loads, then quit. Make me an offer. (I'm keeping 
the caddy for use in my NEW 3401B.)

... Illiterate?  Write for FREE HELP!
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 7344
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/15/93 11:25a
Subj: CD Pricing                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To: 1:282/31 
 
Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM's 
from:  ComputerHelp 
       PO Box 385041 
       Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
       Ph:  (612) 890-4750 
       Fax:  (612) 894-9411 
 
(as of 11/12/93) 
 
SIMTEL MSDOS...................$12.00 
CICA MS Windows................$12.00 
Hobbes OS/2....................$12.00 
Aminet Amiga...................$12.00 
Garbo MSDOS/Mac................$12.00 
Sprite OS......................$12.00 
QRZ! Ham Radio.................$12.00 
ADA Programming................$18.00 
GIGA Games.....................$18.00 
La Coleccion...................$18.00 
Nova for NeXTs.................$18.00 
Project Gutenberg..............$18.00 
Source code....................$18.00 
X11/GNU........................$18.00 
Info-Mac.......................$25.00 
CUG Library....................$22.00 
Linux..........................$23.00 
Libris Britannia...............$30.00 
 
Shipping:  1-3 discs in one order = $4.00, 4-10 discs 
           in one order = $6.00. 
(MN residents add 6.5% sales tax). 
 
All prices subject to change without notice. 
 
"Yes Mildred, we do take personal cheques!" 
 
All orders by pre-payment, (you want cheap prices....); 
send to address above.  Call with questions. 
-  Richard Carter 
 
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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 7345
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 11/15/93 12:34p
Subj: ALL NEW WINDOWS CD                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} A L L   N E W  W I N D O W S  C D
 > {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{
 > Over 670+Megs        Over 5,500 Files      Virus
 > Checked    Dup Checked
 >     BBS Ready with direct support for PCBoard,
 > Spitfire and other's
 >      Largest Collection Of Window Software Anywhere in
 > The World !
 >                File dates mostly '92 - 93' Very few
 > 91's
 >    FREE CD from the author (with purchase) over 2,000+
 > Hi-Res Images

 >                               PRICE - $25.00

Hi Boris
How much 91,92, files or are they games????? Who makes the disc.. Any Idea how
much Icons or Walpaper this disc contains...

I take it the free cd with images will clear customs ok. don't do x stuff on my
board....

like the price

..Red..

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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 7346
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/15/93 12:43p
Subj: CD-ROM DUPLICATION CHART                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hi Mike

How about doing one of these charts for windows (windoze)..

..Red..

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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 7347
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/15/93 12:55p
Subj: MIKEY                                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hi Mike
 > Just kidding Red, "DOS in a clown suit" isn't really
 > all that bad.  <g>
 More ragging by Mikey. <g>

 > Seriously though, we do have the brand new WINDOWS
 > COLLECTION shareware
 > CD's on the way........should be here sometime this
 > week.
Files.bbs in each area I hope....

 >These are put
 > out by the Software Vault people, and will be the
 > newest Windows CD's out.
 > Price is $26 w/ free shipping on pre-orders.  Let me
 > know, and I'll reserve
 > one for you!!

What would it cost for the win cd 2 caddys and win games disc + shipping to
nanaimo b.c.

In the process of turning my 486-50 in to an 8088. Who says you don't sell
majic /\/\ ike ....(((((-:

..Red..

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From: R.P. MEGGS                             Number: 7348
  To: TANDY WAY                                Date: 11/05/93  3:37a
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On <31 Oct, 11:48>, Tandy Way wrote to All :
TW> does anyone have any pro or con to say about starvector? I hear they are
TW> good guys to deal with and if there is a problem they take care of it no
TW> squack.
    Mike Shannon at Starvector is one of the finest individuals you will
    EVER have an opportunity to do business with. I have bought several
    titles from him (I run 8 drives here) and his manner has always been
    courteous and the service prompt. I highly recommend doing business
    with Starvector.

                                       R.P. Meggs
                                       Sysop, Software Monster! BBS

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From: MIKE FURST                             Number: 7349
  To: EDDIE IMPERIAL                           Date: 11/15/93  7:33p
Subj: Digital Dreams!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EI>I have a extra copy of Digital Dreams Vol#1 I would like to trade for
  >Giffy Gold!

EI>                                           Eddie
  >                                           713-437-0124

Eddie I have a copy of Giffy Gold and would like to trade it for your
Digital Dreams!!

                                               -- Mike

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From: TIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 7350
  To: GEOFF REED                               Date: 11/15/93  8:10a
Subj: Encarta                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 GR> knew about the problems and it was a byproduct of encarta 
 GR> being rushed to production. the BUGGIEST part of encarta is 
 GR> the 'mind maze' game and if you
 GR> use
 GR> it, you're guarenteed to get the parity error problems.
 GR>  


Odd. I have played mind maze extensively. No errors.
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 7351
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/15/93  7:07p
Subj: CDROM Pricing-FOR SALE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To: 1:282/31 
 
Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM's 
from:  ComputerHelp 
       PO Box 385041 
       Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
       Ph:  (612) 890-4750 
       Fax:  (612) 894-9411 
 
(as of 11/12/93) 
 
SIMTEL MSDOS...................$12.00 
CICA MS Windows................$12.00 
Hobbes OS/2....................$12.00 
Aminet Amiga...................$12.00 
Garbo MSDOS/Mac................$12.00 
Sprite OS......................$12.00 
QRZ! Ham Radio.................$12.00 
ADA Programming................$18.00 
GIGA Games.....................$18.00 
La Coleccion...................$18.00 
Nova for NeXTs.................$18.00 
Project Gutenberg..............$18.00 
Source code....................$18.00 
X11/GNU........................$18.00 
Info-Mac.......................$25.00 
CUG Library....................$22.00 
Linux..........................$23.00 
Libris Britannia...............$30.00 
Space and Astronomy............$18.00 
 
Shipping:  1-3 discs in one order = $4.00, 4-10 discs 
           in one order = $6.00. 
(MN residents add 6.5% sales tax). 
 
All prices subject to change without notice. 
 
"Yes Mildred, we do take personal cheques!" 
 
All orders by pre-payment, (you want cheap prices....); 
send to address above.  Call with questions. 
-  Richard Carter 
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From: SAM BECKWITH                           Number: 7352
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/15/93  8:01p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DFW Discount Electronics    CD-ROM Price List  Orders: 800-829-0331
 Ship to USA ONLY. 11/15/93  BBS: 214-259-4188  Local: 214-254-0331
9000 Sounds.....................................>BBS Ready   $22.00
Hobbes OS/2 Archives 11/93 (Pre-release orders).>BBS Ready   $16.00
Monster Media 93 Volume 2.......................>BBS Ready   $26.00
Night Owl 10....................................>BBS Ready   $28.00
Night Owl Games.................................>BBS Ready   $19.00
Night Owl Graghics..............................>BBS Ready   $24.00
Pier 3 Shareware................................>BBS Ready   $26.00
Shareware Explorer 4 CD Combo...................>BBS Ready   $39.00
Software Vault Gold Collection..................>BBS Ready   $19.00
King's Quest V..................................>Games/Enter $18.00
King's Quest VI.................................>Games/Enter $22.00
Loom............................................>Games/Enter $19.00
Secret of Monkey Island.........................>Games/Enter $22.00
Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe.................>Games/Enter $22.00
PC-SIG World of Windows.........................>General     $19.00
Clip Art Goliath................................>Graphics    $15.00
Desktop Publishers Dream Disk...................>Graphics    $25.00
GIFs Galore.....................................>Graphics    $15.00
Kodak Photo CD Access Software (Windows)........>Graphics    $15.00
Publisher's Powerhouse..........................>Graphics    $22.00
Family Doctor...................................>Health      $19.00
Mayo Clinic Family Health (Windows or Mac)......>Health      $21.00
Programmers ROM.................................>Programming $18.00
Source CD-ROM...................................>Programming $19.00
Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia 1994 (Windows>Reference   $66.00
Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia 6.0.............>Reference   $39.00
Microsoft Bookshelf 93 for Windows (OEM)........>Reference   $45.00
Microsoft Encarta 1994 (Boxed)..................>Reference   $86.00
Dictionary of the Living World (OEM)............>Science/Nat.$28.00
Dinosaur Adventure (OEM)........................>Science/Nat.$27.00
Dinosaurs! The Multimedia Encyclopedia (Windows)>Science/Nat.$23.00
National Geographics Mammals (OEM)..............>Science/Nat.$23.00
San Diego Zoo Presents...The Animals (MPC Window>Science/Nat.$21.00
Encyclopedia of Sound...........................>Sound/Music $13.00
MIDI Music Shop for Windows.....................>Sound/Music $18.00
 Call me for a complete price list.  Thanks, Sam

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From: GARY KIMBRELL                          Number: 7353
  To: DOUG THRUSH @ 924/1                      Date: 11/15/93  8:21p
Subj: RE: New Cd price list 2/3               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> ******************************************************************
> MS> November 1993           DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST      Last update:
> MS> ********************************************************************
> MS> CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descri
> MS>
> 
> I recently purched a cd-drive and have been looking for some good disk's 
>  to try out.  I'm wondering if you can mail out the same info that is in 
>  "STARCAT.ZIP", in a flyer or booklet.

 I got the Catalog on my first order from Mike. Nice, Color, and easy to read.
With the long titles spelled out.
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7354
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/14/93  6:44p
Subj: Amatuer Models                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have an AMATUER MODELS cd for sale, full of nude amatuer model
gifs.

Yours for $29 shipped via 2nd day mail

Please reply ASAP

Scott Raley


Or you can FREQ me at 1:2612/104 (FIDO)
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7355
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/14/93  6:37p
Subj: catalog discount cd's                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can you freq me a copy of your catalog to 1:2612/104.

thanks
SCott Ralye
Sysop => The Yellow Pages.
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7356
  To: JOHN PIERCE                              Date: 11/14/93  6:40p
Subj: CD-ROM BB for Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will take the Busty Babes cd for $21 shipped.

please reply asap.

Scott raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7357
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 11/14/93  6:41p
Subj: Cd-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send me your catalog to:

Scott Raley
Box 76
Ridge, MD 20680-0076

or FREQ it to 1:2612/104

thanks
Scott
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7358
  To: MARCIAL MORENO                           Date: 11/14/93  6:42p
Subj: Cd-rom disc's for sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can you send me a copy of your catalog to

Scott Raley
Box 76
Ridge, MD 20680

or FREQ it to my BBS at 1:2612/104 (Fido)

Thanks
Scott
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7359
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 11/14/93  6:46p
Subj: CDROM Drive $135                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Would you like to trade this for a copy of Wordperfect for Windows
5.2

Full commercail version?

Thanks
Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7360
  To: GARY HOFFERMAN                           Date: 11/14/93  6:47p
Subj: Cdrom resellers wanted                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in this.  YOu can reach my bbs at 301-872-4238 or
my fido number 1:2612/104.  I am interested in receiving
information

Thanks
Scott raley
Box 76
Ridge, MD 20680-0076
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From: BART BRINKMAN                          Number: 7361
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/15/93  5:41p
Subj: cd rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I need a dirt cheep cd-rom.  Give me the best price you can in a new of
used cd-rom.  The access time is not a major consern, all I need it for
is viewing gif's.
                        Bart


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From: DOUG THRUSH @ 924/1                    Number: 7362
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/15/93 11:48p
Subj: Cd List                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Joe

  Could you please send me a copy of your latest CD LIST?



Doug Thrush
PO Box 620327
Ft Rucker, AL 36362

     Thanks!

Diver do it DEEPER and stay DOWN longer!
   
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From: DOUG THRUSH @ 924/1                    Number: 7363
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 11/15/93 11:53p
Subj: Catalog Request                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris

  Could you please send me your latest CD catalog?


Doug Thrush
PO Box 620327
Ft Rucker, AL 36362

                                  THANKS!

Diver do it DEEPER and stay DOWN longer!
   
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From:  @ 924/1                               Number: 7364
  To:                                          Date: 11/16/93 12:00a
Subj:                                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Diver do it DEEPER and stay DOWN longer!
   
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From: JEFFREY SPITZER                        Number: 7365
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/09/93 12:14a
Subj: $7.25 CD-Rom disc(s)                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'd like a November catalog.
My address is
Jeffrey Spitzer
21 Hammond St.
Leominster, MA 01453 
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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 7366
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 11/09/93  9:17p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Brice,

 >>  Hey Brice!  Everytime that you post your list of CDs, you must make
 >>  your pages to darn long as I have never seen anything past the 1of3.

 >  Some accursed "dupe checker" is nuking stuff it should NOT be nuking,

          There is also a technical limit to the size of messages which
'should' be carried on Fidonet.  I don't rememebr the number but something like
8Kb comes to mind.  Many message handlers will do better than this, but if your
messages are passing through a system which won't, then "Poof" and they get
truncated.  I hope this helps and just to stay on topic, got any good CD's for
sale <grin>?


                                                   Cheers,

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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 7367
  To: RICK HARRIS                              Date: 11/09/93  9:51p
Subj: Confirm Echo mail                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Rick,

 >         Please let us know if we are getting this into the echo..

          Didn't make it to Finland, must have got lost somewhere!



                                                   Cheers,

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From: TIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 7368
  To: LARRY HUEGELE                            Date: 11/10/93  3:29p
Subj: Wanter CD-ROM Titles                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LH> Hmmmm, someone else told me it stood for Original 
 LH> Electronics Manufacturer.



It's an acronym for Original Equipment Manufacturer.

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7369
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 11/08/93 12:12a
Subj: Re: Adult november titles               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>       "WE DON'T CARE ABOUT MAKING MONEY - WE JUST LOVE TO SELL
>> CD'S!"
> Should I tell Don you're "borrowing" his line?
> 
>  8-)
> 
>> a 6.40 House of Sleeping Beauties                   a   46.40 Kama
>> Sutra
> Your formatting needs some work....
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> (1:231/190)
    Thanks Brice for pointing this out.
    No one else has mentioned it!  It could have been that my editor had 
too wide a margin.
    As for "We don't care....just love to sell cd's"
    Sure, tell him,  I'm more then happy to let anyone know where it 
came from in fact was hoping that it would get back to him.  Everyone in 
this area must surely know where that line came from:)  I was actually 
waiting for someone to make mention of it.  We decided to use it this 
month, since we are running around the office screaming the slogan.  We 
used to think it was a really kinda hillbilly, but now everyone working 
in our cd dept. truly understands what he means by it.
    This network cd sales stuff is really fun.  Cutthroat, but fun.  
Surely the users that read these echos are gaining.  We find it 
interesting that from one network to another prices vary.  In the years 
of our selling computer epuipment, our response for cd's has been 
overwelming.  We are looking forward to our cd-rom future and ahving fun 
with all you other dealers:)
    With best regards,
    Joe

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7370
  To: JANET SMITH                              Date: 11/08/93 10:19p
Subj: ANIMATED X CD?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Does anyone know of a good CD with XXX animated files?  Any suggestions
 > and what is the price??       (shareware)
    Janet,
    I thought I'd offer my opinion although I don't have the titles in stock at
this writing should you order, but plan too soon.  As for XXX animations, the
best disc's I've seen to date are the hot pix series.  Excepting for the 1st
version which sells for an average of $89. all of the other versions run around
$39.  They only offer a few animated directories that I've seen, since they are
mostly gifs.  Also, I have the bob Jackson reviews to date available here at
the Blue Parrot for download or freq as BJRALL.ZIP and we just sent him a
couple of new titles to review.  Local girls we know is tame, but we are
awaiting his review of SUPER SMUTWARE, since we sent it to him in the plastic
and didn't take the time to peek at it:)
    Hope you find what you are searching for.
    Regards,
    Joe Rinehart

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7371
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/09/93  9:47p
Subj: Night Owl Update                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

THIS IS A MORE DETAILED UPDATE TO MY ORIGINAL POST
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CONFIG.SYS NIGHT OWL 10 DEALER RECALL!!!!<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>       This notice only affects those who purchased this release from
>Joe Rinehart of config.sys, Inc.

        It has been brought to our attention that the recent Night Owl 10
cd-rom disc contains two viruses.  Upon investigation this information was
confirmed.  Considering the Night Owl 10 disc was promoted as a BBS ready
disc which may be downloaded by thousands during its expected life, we have
decided to recall this release.  Compensation will be offered in the form of
an exchange toward another BBS ready disc of equal value.  We are presently
suggesting Terry Blount's recent release "Cream of the Crop II".  Terry's 1st
publication was proven to be virus free.

File and location information include:
        The files in question are:  SF2_UP.ZIP located in the 020a directory,
and SPORT21C.ZIP located in the 037a directory.

NOTES INCLUDE:
        No special notes are offered for the SF2-UP.EXE FILE.  McAffe's scan
9.19 v.108 detected it before installation.
        The Sport21c.zip was of considerable interest to us.  After we
unarchived the file to our RAM drive and ran McAffe's 9.19 v.108 scan, the
virus was not detected.  The initial scan report follows:

SCAN 9.19 V108     1993/11/8   18:34
Options: e:\*.* /m /chkhi /bell /report c:\scan.rpt
Scanning Volume: MS-RAMDRIVE
Directory E:\ contains 4 files.
 No viruses found.

However, when we ran the install program it did copy 2 files to our C:\DOS\DIR
file (since we do not have a C:DOS directory) that was 11407 bytes in size.
This file went undetected by scan 9.19 v.108.  Then we created a bogus C:\DOS
& decided to run the install again the following day in our research.  Upon
running the install program the first screen had this wording within an ansi
box:

{start of ansi box}
  This file passed preliminary file integrity & virus detection checks!
  Known BBS ad files have been removed to reduce transfer time & cost.
{end of ansi box}
                   Courtesy of MicroSeller BBS, Since 1984
                            (201) 239-1151 v.32bis
                            (201) 239-1331 HST DS

        Do you want to extract these file now (y/n)

  We ran scan at this screen and there were no detections. However, when we
answered yes.... We ran scan again.  This time it did copy a file to our
bogus C:\DOS directory and copied 1 noninfected file named sport21c.exe.
When scan checked our RAM drive, it created this report:

SCAN 9.19 V108     1993/11/8   19:01
Options: C:\*.* E:\*.* /BELL /CHKHI /DATE /M /REPORT C:\SCAN.RPT /SUB
Scanning Volume: 105 TOSHIBA
Scanning Volume: MS-RAMDRIVE
Scanning E:\INSTALL.COM
  Found the Butterfly [Bfly] Virus
Scanning E:\DOCUMENT.COM
  Found the Butterfly [Bfly] Virus
Scanning E:\SPORTS.COM
  Found the Butterfly [Bfly] Virus
 Found 3 files containing viruses.

        At this point, the research involving our systems ends.  We decided
not to view the destructive nature of the viruses first-hand.

         We wish to express our observation that we do totally understand how
these viruses got on the cd-disc, due to their either being new or
undetectable until installation.  We do not judge the publisher in this case,
since we actually had to install the butterfly on our system, since scannning
did not detect it.  From what we've learned in our research the publisher
takes extensive measures by scanning with several respectable programs.  In
the butterfly case, no sysop or user would have detected this virus until
after the potential destruction occurs.

        Copies are being sent to McAffee for confirmation that these are
indeed viruses.  Further confirmation or information will be announced.

    It was suggested by Ian Singer (a Canadian dealer) that a possible
echo be created that would create a forum between publishers and dealers to
assist in the research of problems like this & otherwise better the
relationships between the two.  We are in agreement since it would be a
direct exchange of information, possibly before a false panic should be
created.

The basic scan report follows:

SCAN 9.19 V108     1993/11/8   18:04
Options: E:\sf2-up.exe /BELL /CHKHI /DATE /M /REPORT C:\SCAN.RPT /SUB
Scanning Volume: MS-RAMDRIVE
Scanning E:\SF2-UP.EXE
  Found the Memory Lapse [ML] Virus
 Found 1 file containing a virus.

SCAN 9.19 V108     1993/11/7   01:03
Options: E:*.* /BELL /CHKHI /DATE /M /REPORT C:\SCAN.RPT /SUB
Scanning Volume: MS-RAMDRIVE
>Scanning E:.\INSTALL.COM
>  Found the Butterfly [Bfly] Virus
>Scanning E:.\DOCUMENT.COM
>  Found the Butterfly [Bfly] Virus
>Scanning E:.\SPORTS.COM
>  Found the Butterfly [Bfly] Virus
> Found 3 files containing viruses.

        We do not recommend that anyone try expermenting, unless they take
precautions like using a system that is not used in daily activities.

        Anyone interested in discussing information on new developments in
regard to the Night Owl 10 virus investigation, may contact me.

                                 Joe Rinehart
                               config.sys, Inc.
                                 P.O. Box 27
                            Kent, Ohio 44240-0001
  Voice: (216) 296-9831  24 hours
  Voice: (216) 296-1633 6pm-midnight (EST)
  Voice/Messages/Fax: (216) 297-1332 24 hours
  Toll-Free (in Ohio Only) 1-800-521-2881 6pm - midnight (EST)
  Data/Fax (216) 296-4446 ZyXel 16.8 v.42bis The Blue Parrot RBBS 24HRS
  FidoNet: 1:157/479
  KesherNet: 18:711/176
  RBBSNet: 8:965/13
  WWIVNet: 2@2659

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7372
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/09/93  9:48p
Subj: catalog discount cd's                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> CD-ROM DRIVE OWNERS, or even if you don't own one, we have them....
    We just completed our November Issue of our CDLIST!  If you'd like a
printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
>   If you are a sysop & wish us to freq a copy at our expense, just ask!
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 750 cd-rom disc titles available)
FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176 - WWIVNet 2@2659
Joe Rinehart                   Voice: (216) 296-9831
P.O. Box 27                    Data/fax: (216) 296-GIGO(4446) ZyXEL 16.8
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001          >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7373
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/09/93  9:52p
Subj: Adult cd-titles                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                  "NEW & IMPROVED USER-FRIENDLY PRICE LIST!"
       "WE DON'T CARE ABOUT MAKING MONEY - WE JUST LOVE TO SELL CD'S!"
        Over 750 disc titles & hardware products are now available.
To order, contact:
                                 Joe Rinehart
                                 P.O. Box 27
                            Kent, Ohio 44240-0001
  Voice: (216) 296-9831  24 hours
  Voice: (216) 296-1633 6pm-midnight (EST)
  Voice/Messages/Fax: (216) 297-1332 24 hours
  Toll-Free (in Ohio Only) 1-800-521-2881 6pm - midnight (EST)
  Data/Fax (216) 296-4446 ZyXel 16.8 v.42bis The Blue Parrot RBBS 24HRS
  FidoNet: 1:157/479
  KesherNet: 18:711/176
  RBBSNet: 8:965/13
  WWIVNet: 2@2659
  CD CATALOG FREQ:  CDLIST.ZIP or majic name CDLIST
  COMPLETE CATALOG FREQ:  PARROT.ZIP (contains all products new & used)

SHIPPING TERMS:  Purchaser pays shipping!  $5.00 C.O.D.Charge, 2 lbs or less
for $2.90 second day U.S.P.S. Priority Mail.  $1.00 Handling fee on orders
under $50.00.  3rd Class shipping on request. All orders are insured.
International orders shipped acccording to U.S. Customs regulations.

MISC. INFORMATION:
All prices are in U.S. Currency.
Make checks payable to:  Carl Knorr or Joe Rinehart
10% discount on CD-Titles for verified sysops or resale orders over $250!
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CD Caddies                                  mi    5.00  with disc order 4.50
New Machine CD Adult Sampler ROM             a   10.00
SuperSpace                                   a   16.00
Hawaii CD                                    a   19.00
Island Girls                                 a   19.00
Local Girls                                  a   19.00
Hacker Whacker Fun Pack                      a   21.00
Women of Venus                               a   22.40
Exotic Girls                                 a   24.00
Smutware                                     a   24.00
Surfs up!                                    a   24.00
Swimwear 1993                                a   24.00
Tropical Girls                               a   24.00
Gifs Galaxy                                  a   25.60
Digital Dreams                               a   27.20
Adult Palette                                a   28.80
Amateur Model                                a   28.80
Animation Festival                           a   28.80
Extreme Delight (adult CD)                   a   28.80
Giffy Gold                                   a   28.80
Busty Babes Volume 2 - Brand new!            a   29.00
American Girls (200 soft nudes)              a   30.40
High Volume Nudes                            a   30.40
Photo Gallery by Steve Hicks                 a   31.97
Southern Beauties                            a   32.50
Island Girls V2 (3cds)                       a   33.00
Local Girls Volume 2 (3cds)                  a   33.00
Lovely Ladies II                             a   36.80
Busting Out/vivid Digital                    a   38.40
Debbie Does Dallas                           a   38.40
Deep Throat                                  a   38.40
Insatiable                                   a   38.40
New Wave Hookers Vol. 1                      a   38.40
New Wave Hookers Vol. 2                      a   38.40
Rimfire Pacific Video                        a   38.40
Seedy Movies                                 a   38.40
Traci, I Love You.                           a   38.40
Girls of Vivid #1                            a   39.00
Girls of Vivid #2                            a   39.00
Café Flesh                                   a   39.97
101 Sex Positions #1                         a   40.00
101 Sex Positions #2                         a   40.00
After Dark Trilogy                           a   40.00
Dirty Talk                                   a   40.00
Fractal Ecstasy                              a   40.00
Mystic of the Orient                         a   41.60
Legends of Porn vol. 2                       a   44.80
My First Time                                a   44.80
Nightwatch                                   a   44.80
Best of Vivid                                a   46.40
House of Sleeping Beauties                   a   46.40
Kama Sutra                                   a   46.40
L A Strippers (Interactive)                  a   46.40
Adventures of Seymour Butts                  a   48.00
Adventures of Seymour Butts Windows          a   48.00
Digital Dancing                              a   48.00
Dream Machine (IBM)                          a   48.00
Dream Machine (Macintosh)                    a   48.00
Erotic Dreams (R-Rated Interactive)          a   48.00
Hidden Obsessions                            a   48.00
House of Dreams Digital Movies               a   48.00
Night Trips Interactive Adult                a   48.00
PGGl - Adult Gif disk by Groupware           a   48.00
Relationship Enhancement Series v1           a   48.00
Betrayal Quicktime Movie                     a   50.00
Cat and Mouse (Quicktime)                    a   50.00
Wicked - DOS version                         a   50.00
Wicked - Windows                             a   50.00
Club Paradise                                a   51.00
Wickedmovie (ONLY) Quicktime                 a   51.25
Glamour Girls of 1943                        a   54.00
Buttman                                      a   56.00
Interactive Adult Almanac/Macintosh          a   68.60
Donatelli Portfolio                          a   79.00
Interactive Adult Almanac (IBM)              a   79.00

To order call Joe Rinehart at (216) 296-9831

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From: ROEL SARCENO                           Number: 7374
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/15/93 12:44a
Subj: CD Use                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi yall,

I have a cd that I'm using for the bbs.  Right now, all I have is a
bunch of shareware cd roms.  I'm hoping there is something else beside
shareware for bbs use.  I appreciate any recommendations.

Roel


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 7375
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 11/15/93  8:26a
Subj: Re: Changing times...                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Bob Jackson <11-14-93 10:21> Blaine Richard wrote:

BR>> Lee here you go again talking about something that you think that you
BR>> know about.

Got my info from the man, that made *YOUR* deal possible, so perhaps you should
correct somebody other then me.

BR>> that we did for the SB disc that we felt met the quality that we
BR>> wanted to publisher not like some publisher that have to publish what
BR>> is supplied to them, and there is still more then enough pictures
BR>> from the 21,000 to make 5 to 7 more FULL & QUALITY
BR>> disc.

May be tough to do, you stated that of the 21,000, you chose the 1,000 that as
you said, "Met the Quality that We Wanted...", so any reader would be inclined
to believe the other 20,000 may quite possibly run a risk of falling below the
standard of SB Vol I--So best of luck with the many other volumns you can get
from the repository. Make tons of money, but if at all possible, drive your car
into a sink hole......

BR>> So Lee before you state your facts you might wanna have them
BR>> right.

Got the statement from the very one you pay royalties to.....now who would I
believe, you or him ? Duh.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 7376
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 11/15/93  8:28a
Subj: Re: Changing times...                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Bob Jackson <11-14-93 10:09> Blaine Richard wrote:

BR>> Lee you need to get your facts TOTALLY CORRECT yes SB was 5 years
BR>> worth of work from 1 photographer but we had over

BR>> 40,000 picutes to choose from and ƒocould make easily another

Well, in the previous post you said you had 21,000 to choose from, get your
facts straight--Sounds as if my admission about the photographer only having
about 5 years of work, was *TOTALLY* correct. So I will assume the remainder of
my facts are correct too.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: DAVID DOYLE                            Number: 7377
  To: FRANK SESLER                             Date: 11/15/93  7:01a
Subj: CD-ROM BB for Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I will give you $25.00.  Let me know.
Gimme 25$ for what????


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From: JOHN HOPKE                             Number: 7378
  To: BILL WOOD                                Date: 11/15/93  8:01p
Subj: Re: DOS 6.2                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hey, Yeah I know, after I sent it out, I meant 6.2 upgrade from the m
-> bbs. SORRY Bill

You have to be careful there too.  From what I hear, there are two
versions.  The commercial one includes the changes to dblspace, and the
free update doesn't.

I won't swear to this, but it is what I've heard.

C-ya


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From: FRANK SERENO                           Number: 7379
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/16/93  7:43p
Subj: Re: NEW CD PRICE LIST 1/3               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

 MS> 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Mavis Beacon Teaches

Mike, I think it would be easier to find titles in your lists if you ordered
them alphabetically across the columns, as A   A, then B   B because the way
it is now I have to keep working up and down the post as I move along in the
alphabet instead of simply working down to the bottom of the post as I
progress in the alphabet.  Hey, will you match Boris' price of $25 on Pier 3?


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7380
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/16/93  6:04a
Subj: Information, please...                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

on any BBSes in the (703) area code that carry this echo. Thanks.

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From: ED FEINS                               Number: 7381
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/15/93  5:45p
Subj: MICROSOFT ENCARTA FOR SALE              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
ONE, Microsoft Encarta CD-ROM - never opened, new in box.
 
$75.00  DELIVERED 
 
Call 908-486-5068 anytime.
 
If I don't return your call it's been sold.



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From: DAVID DOYLE                            Number: 7382
  To: FRANK SESLER                             Date: 11/15/93 10:32p
Subj: CD-ROM BB FOR SALE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I think you have the wrong David Doyle.  I have no idea what the heck you are
talking about.  There must be another DD out there.  Sorry.



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From: PAUL DEEMER                            Number: 7383
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/15/93  2:58p
Subj: Re: WARNING!! JASON AVAR                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 Mike,
 
 This is an all to common problem, but Larger Corporations are now only
Shipping merchandize to the Address on the Visa Application. This keeps
alot of companies from getting ripped off by the type of (CON) you were
speaking about in Florida. Hope they get the little sh#$. <G>.
 
 Paul


... Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.
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From: PAUL DEEMER                            Number: 7384
  To: DAVID THOMPSON                           Date: 11/15/93  3:29p
Subj: Re: NEC Triple Speed CD-                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BB> Does anyone know about the NEC triple speed CD-ROM drives?  Are they
 BB> good/bad? 
 BB> Blake


 DT> I should be able to tell you something in a few weeks; we're currently
 DT> evaluating them to become a standard product here at Carolina Power
 DT> and Light.  We'll be looking at the 3XE and the 3XP portable unit, and
 DT> testing them for performance/compatibility in DOS, Windows, OS/2 2.1,
 DT> and as CD servers in a Banyan Vines environment.
 DT> So far, everything that I've seen about them looks good.  They have
 DT> some neat features if you use the unit to play audio CDs (which they
 DT> don't do  here, but *I* do at home a lot).  
 DT> The NEC 4X series of quad-speed drives should be out
  
PC World did a review of the (NEC 3Xe model) is this Months issue, Page 88.

Here is a small quote of the article. 

 * We reviewed a preproduction 3Xe model, and our prgmatic side was a 
little disappointed. After testing several common CD ROM-based apps, we 
noted only minor perfromance improvements over times posted by a double-
speed drive. The Problem NEC said, was the standard applications we tested
(CorelDraw 3.0, MicroSoft's Video for Windows, and a data base of computer
periodicals) had not been optimized for triple speed drives. *

End of Quote.

   Anyway basically it will be the next year at least before the majority 
of Cd rom software is optimized for 3x drives, and you guys are already  
thinking about 4x drives  Jeeze. <G>. Getting way ahead of ourselves here. 
Now I don't have a thing against NEC, as I own an (NEC 4FGE MONITOR) which 
I love. BUT, I just purchased a CD Rom drive 2 days ago and I got the Texel
Dual speed drive with 240ms and 335kb a sec. The reason I didn't get the
triple speed is because, with the interface and drive itself your talking 
about $150.00 extra over a double speed drive and the software currently
on the market has not been optimized for tri speed drives yet. BUT I can
afford to get another one in the future. Not all people can do this, so if
you want to spend the extra amount now, and then take advantage of it next
year when the optimized cds come out, then thats fine. But don't expect any 
Miracle Transfer Increases. <G>.
 
 Paul






... Pardon Me, But Would You Have Any Blue Poupon?
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From: JOHN CARROLL                           Number: 7385
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/14/93 10:23p
Subj: caddies!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        For Sale:  Quan. 17 CD-ROM caddies.  $3 each for Phillips and Sony
                   CD-ROM Players.

                   Call Florida 407-569-9411 or reply this echo.

                   Thanks!   John Carroll

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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 7386
  To: BOB BREED                                Date: 11/16/93  7:22a
Subj: Cd Shipped                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bob, shipped the AL CD on Saturday, 11/13.  Should be there shortly.
BTW, got the CD's today, thanks again.  Best Regards!

,\\ark

 
... "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors taglines"
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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 7387
  To: JASON SACK                               Date: 11/15/93 11:03p
Subj: Busty Babes II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JS> Ok, Lee please work me on this one then, I use a .28 dot pitch
 JS> Goldstar VGA monitor with a 256k video card -do I have to use Showoff

  Jason, even with the magic of CSHOW, using a graphic card w/only 256k
  video ram your VERY limited into quality of ANY display, not just to
  the BB-II files which DO require the ability to display 1024 X 768.
  Can you upgrade the memory to your graphics card?  It may be less
  costly to invest in a 1mb graphic card anyway.  Check out the deals
  here in this echo, there are some great buys.  And please don't knock
  the software as its hardware (your end) that is giving you problems.

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From: NORMAN WATSON                          Number: 7388
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/16/93 12:41p
Subj: CD-Comp Mag extracts                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike,
Am looking for a CD that has all (or a substantial number) of the 
published computer magazines - Full text, preferably.

I remember seeing one back in a library a couple of years ago. It was a 
great resource .. kinda like my own computer encyclopaedia.

I found this extract on a list of CD Publishers. Do you know anything 
about them ? Do you have, or can you recommend a CD that has the info.
Particularly at a reasonable cost !!

[extract]
Computer Library  ---  New York, NY
    Computer Library - computer periodical database on CD-ROM
H.W. Wilson Company  ---  Bronx, NY
    WilsonDisc: Business Periodicals Index - reference CDROM
UMI Inc  ---  Ann Arbor, MI
    Business Dateline Ondisc - business info on CDROM
    Periodical Abstracts Ondisc - general interest CDROM




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From: FRANK GRESH                            Number: 7389
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 11/16/93  6:55a
Subj: BUSTY BABES REVIEW                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>Ex-pro photog, you say? Me, too. Do you ever hang out in the FIDO PHOTO echo

no, I barely have time to read all the mail in this conference and the
couple other that I'm on.  But I'll certainly plan on getting on there
when the work schedule permits it....thanks Bob..

Frank
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From: DARREN LEARY                           Number: 7390
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/16/93  9:44p
Subj: NEC CD Fusion 16 4 Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a CD Fusion CD 16 for sale.  It is from NEC and includes a Doublespin
CD-ROM, Pro Audio Spectrum 16 Soundcard, Two Labtec CS-550 speakers, and
software that includes the 7th Guest, Comptons Encyclopedia, Battle Chess, and
the Arthurs Teacher Trouble game for kids.  I am asking $820 for this package,
that would otherwise cost over $1200 usually.  This package is BRAND NEW, and
was bought recenlty.  If you have any interest in this please leave me mail, or
call me by voice at 753-2651 for more information.

Darren Leary

... This copy of GEdit has been unregistered for 62 days.

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From: RICK SHAW                              Number: 7391
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/16/93  8:09p
Subj: Cream  of the Crop                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  I am always looking for a good source of CDs for my system.. Please fire off
you list to me..
Jim


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From: ROBERT KUMMER                          Number: 7392
  To: DON NELSON                               Date: 11/16/93 11:32p
Subj: CD's for Simms                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


            Seedy Rom #2,#3,#4,#5,#6 and After Dark.
                (after dark is all adult Gifs)

      Hello Don, I tried to send a private message to you along with the
last message you replied to. I guess it did not get through, anyhow, the
CD's above are what I have left right now. If your still interested in
trading for 4 1x9 70ns Simms, call me at 517-631-5105 9am - 9pm EST. I
have another offer to trade for Simms, but you get first shot. Call me
and let's talk about this. Thanks.

   Robert.

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From: IAN SINGER                             Number: 7393
  To: THOMAS WAGNER                            Date: 11/15/93  6:45a
Subj: Re: Night Owl 10                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TW>How do we know for sure. It reported a virus on my system. I haven't heard
TW>anyone say that the SCAN 108 is actually giving false reports because there
is
TW>no virus. Nor have I heard that there is a problem with scan 108. Until
someone
TW>actually has proof of which one is wrong, I won't use the disk.

If you are unsure just block those two files from downloading. DOnt
remove the whole CD though.
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From: PERRY SHEAN                            Number: 7394
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/16/93  3:37p
Subj: cd roms                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am in the market for a couple of cd roms. I live in Canada and the
prices seem a little high even with the exchange.

I was looking for the corel draw 4.0 cd
The microsoft encarta
The microsoft word and bookshelf 94

If anyone can help me in t is

Sincerely P.Shean
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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7395
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/16/93 10:16p
Subj: Night Owl 10.1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>NIGHT OWL 10.1 CORRECTED & RERELEASED PREORDER SPECIAL - $29.70
Add $2.90 for shipping 2 lbs, 2nd day Express. $5.00 C.O.D. charge, Visa/MC
not available on discounted items:)  10% discount for verified sysops!
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 766 cd-rom disc titles available)
FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176 - WWIVNet 2@2659
Joe Rinehart                   Voice: (216) 296-9831
P.O. Box 27                    Data/fax: (216) 296-GIGO(4446) ZyXEL 16.8
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001         >>> INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME <<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7396
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/16/93 10:26p
Subj: Catalog offer                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> CD-ROM DRIVE OWNERS, or even if you don't own one, we have them....
   Ask for a copy of our CDLIST!  If you'd like a printed copy, send your
mailing information to us.
>   If you are a sysop & wish us to freq a copy at our expense, just ask!
>CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 750 cd-rom disc titles available)
FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176 - WWIVNet 2@2659
Joe Rinehart                   Voice: (216) 296-9831
P.O. Box 27                    Data/fax: (216) 296-GIGO(4446) ZyXEL 16.8
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001          >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7397
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/16/93 10:27p
Subj: * Cream of the Crop II *                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>   Terry Blount's "Cream of the Crop II" released 11/12/93 for $28.50!

>       BBS READY, with RBBS extended description support from the Blue
>Parrot RBBS.

        On-line for review & IMMEDIATE SHIPPING orders may also be placed
via: Joe Rinehart, The Blue Parrot, 1:157/479@fido, 8:965/13@rbbs,
18:176/711@kesher, or 2@2659 wwiv.  ZyXEL 16.8 data/fax: 216.296.4446,
voice: 216.296.9831, or voice: 216.296.1633 6pm-mid EST.
>RBBS complete conference setup FREQ avail as CC2RBBS.zip (893k) w/instrc.

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 7398
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/15/93  6:06p
Subj: Renovations Nearly Comple               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÿ@SUBJECT:Renovations Nearly Complete!                                N
Renovations are nearly complete at CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA,
so this is your last to take advantage of these AT COST OR BELOW
specials:

GENERAL TITLES   Cdn$  US$        ADULT TITLES      Cdn$  US$
--------------                    ------------
OS/2 Box (NEW!)   $25  $20        Foxes              $20  $16
Simtel 20 4/93    $20  $16        Rimfire Pacific    $34  $27
Women of Venus    $25  $20        Adult Palate       $30  $24
Shareware Studio                  Best Vivid Motion  $33  $26
   3-disc set     $45  $36        Nightwatch         $42  $33
The Animals (San                  Girls of Vivid     $30  $24
   Diego Zoo)     $26  $21        Mystique of Orient $33  $26
4-disc Shareware                  American Girls     $34  $27
  Explorer Set    $64  $49

These specials are cash, cheque, or money order only. Many of the
discs are at cost (and some are below-cost), so we can't include the
6% credit card fee and still give them to you at this price. These
are also while quantities last, until November 20, 1993. Give us
a call when you're ready to order, and we'll set your discs aside.
Bonus: All applicable taxes are already included. $2 S/H per
item (4-disc Set counts as one) for 2-3 day shipping within Canada.

                    CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA
                306-789-4654        Fax: 306-789-8690
                6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk., S4N 4G7
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From: CHRIS WOOD                             Number: 7399
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 11/16/93  3:53p
Subj: Renovations Nearly Comple               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Vince Sorensen wrote in a message to All:


VS> GENERAL TITLES   Cdn$  US$        ADULT TITLES      Cdn$ 
VS> US$ --------------                    ------------
VS> OS/2 Box (NEW!)   $25  $20        Foxes              $20 
VS> $16 Simtel 20 4/93    $20  $16        Rimfire Pacific    $34
VS>  $27 Women of Venus    $25  $20        Adult Palate      
VS> $30  $24 Shareware Studio                  Best Vivid Motion
VS>  $33  $26    3-disc set     $45  $36        Nightwatch      
VS>   $42  $33 The Animals (San                  Girls of Vivid 
VS>    $30  $24    Diego Zoo)     $26  $21        Mystique of
VS> Orient $33  $26 4-disc Shareware                  American
VS> Girls     $34  $27   Explorer Set    $64  $49

If you sell the Hobbes OS/2 CDROM pressed on 10/93, can you post the CDN price
and your address again?

Take care...

Chris, Team OS/2

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From: DANIEL PARDUE                          Number: 7400
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/16/93 11:33p
Subj:                                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking to get the following:

Creative Sounds CD
Kings Quest V
F-15 Strike Eagle.

Who can give me the best price including shipping?

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 7401
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/16/93  7:48p
Subj: BUSTY BABES II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > In a message to Lee Noga <11-11-93 19:24> Mark Walker wrote:

 > MW>> What are you trying to say here Lee? Is Volume III going to be full
 > MW>> of 44DDD's  and the like (a freak show in my opinion) or more of the
 > MW>> moderate to ample  sized breasts like Volume II was (beautifully
 > MW>> proportioned in my opinion).

 > Now I am all confused--Yees, I was leaning towards the big
 > booboodeenies, just to satisfy those that want the big and
 > unmanageable--Now, I don't know what to do--Besides this echo, the
 > other areas of distribution much rather prefer Vol III to be like II,
 > its justs this FIDO echo where the doo doo flies over breast size--
 > Sigh......, thanks for the insight !

 > Hugs,

 > -=*>Lee<*=-

Lee,
I prefer the BBII women better, what I would do is to compare sales of the two
disks and if needed ask the sellers here if they've seen better or worse sales.
Either way you choose you lose. Can't please evryone. :-)

                                Mike Harris

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 7402
  To: SHAWN FRIESEN                            Date: 11/16/93  7:58p
Subj: Ello...                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Does anybody have/or has played the game "The 7th Guest"? If so, I'm
 > wondering how the scrolling speed of it is for your computer... If it
 > is
 > a contineous patern ------------------ could you please give me the
 > stats of your computer because I'm looking to upgrade, and I want to
 > know what kinda hardware would give me that kind of scrolling
 > capabilities... My scrolling is like -   -   -   -   -   -  - Etc..
 > Maybe like half a second to scroll one screen? In otherwords you can
 > see
 > it "pause"!

 > Your help will be most usefull...


Have you tryed upping your buffers?

This might save you the money of buying a faster machine and cd-rom drive.

                                  Mike Harris

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From: JEFF CLAGGETT                          Number: 7403
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/14/93 11:12p
Subj: Pascal CD?                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

    Anyone know of a CDthat carries Pascal and Pascal only? (I am talking
source code and what not) BBS ready would be nice but is not a must as long as
it uses compressed files in a somewhat sane directory structure. One of the
topics of my BBS will be Pascal Programming.

                Jeff Claggett
                |)esperado
                Moerfelden, Germany

GlobalNet: 52:4900/111, FidoNet: 2:244/1673.1, FlyNet: 196:8010/80.5
FlyNews Editor:  196:196/7, GamesNet: 144:4906/124, PRN: 276:100/102
NorthNet: 35:300/10
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From: JEFF CLAGGETT                          Number: 7404
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 11/14/93 11:18p
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Brice!

Tuesday November 09 1993 12:54, Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Mike Astin:
Original topic: CD-ROM

 BF>  I don't know of ANYONE that makes a 3 disc changer.
 BF>  Doug Carpenter has the best price I've seen so far on the Pioneer
 BF> DRM-600A 6- disc changer....

    I most definatly want one of those. You got any approx prices? In USD ($).
Now if only Kenwood would use their 10 pack design for a CD-ROM changer.

                Jeff Claggett
                |)esperado
                Moerfelden, Germany

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FlyNews Editor:  196:196/7, GamesNet: 144:4906/124, PRN: 276:100/102
NorthNet: 35:300/10
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From: JEFF CLAGGETT                          Number: 7405
  To: MARK WATERS                              Date: 11/14/93 11:53p
Subj: Mitsumi 2x Spin                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello MARK!

Wednesday November 10 1993 00:00, MARK WATERS wrote to JOE KELLY:
Original topic: Mitsumi 2x Spin

 ->> drivers for dos, os/2.
 ->> ONLY -+->$210 Delivered! (These drives are new in the box!!!)
 ->> Give me a call if interested. Joe Kelly 407-273-8623.

 MW> Is the interface proprietary?

    Yup. Mitsumi uses proprietary interfaces for their drives. Thats why it was
so hard to get OS/2 drivers for them . Fortunatly the new IBM Mitsumi driver
supports the FX series Mitsumis. As well as the 005s. Kida funny why the 002 is
not supported. The guy writing the driver just plane and simple did not have
one of these drives available to use for developement.

                Jeff Claggett
                |)esperado
                Moerfelden, Germany

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NorthNet: 35:300/10
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From: ROGER SMITH                            Number: 7406
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 11/15/93  9:16a
Subj: MOVIES..                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >> I'm intrested in buying any CD-Rom that has anything remotly to do
 >> with movies

 >> I have the "Cinemania '92" and "Video Movie Guide 1993", is there any
 >> others

 BF>  "Roger Ebert Movie Companion" comes to mind.

The new Cinemania '94 from Microsoft now incorporates Roger Ebert's book.  It
still includes Leonard Maltin's book.

-- Roger

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From: PAUL LAUGHLIN                          Number: 7407
  To: RICHARD ALAN                             Date: 11/16/93  4:43p
Subj: CATALOG DISCOUNT CD'S                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JR>     We just completed our November Issue of our CDLIST!  If you'd li
 JR> printed copy, send your mailing information to us.

Hey Joe...  I am interested in the info. on the CD's

Please Mail to;

Paul Laughlin
529 Church St. East
Brentwood, TN 37027

Thank You

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From: DANE HAYGOOD                           Number: 7408
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 11/16/93  1:21p
Subj: me too...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Re: Universal Interface
 
> DP>Damar Enterprises is looking for Beta testers for its unique Windows-based
> DP>Graphical User Interface.  THE UNIVERSAL INTERFACE is here! 
>  
> DP>How can you get a copy? 
>  
> Hi Dave.  I'm willing to be a beta tester if you like.  Being a CD-Rom 
> dealer, I can test it on plenty of discs. 
>  
> Computer Works                                          Jim... 
> CD-Rom Sales! 
> (205) 793-4481 Voice 
> (205) 671-0092 BBS 
> Rt 3 Box 794B 
> Ashford, AL 36312 
>  

I also would like to participate in the beta testing but i missed the
original post...if you get this let me know..

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 7409
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 11/16/93  9:52p
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

OK on Carmen San Diego 15.00
602-732-0928
or leave mail...how do you want to do it?


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From: THOMAS WAGNER                          Number: 7410
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/16/93 10:47p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Volume II               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm glad to hear that you are working with Dugent publishing. They publish my  
favorite magazine. They also used to have an ad just inside the cover, which
was a clearing house for catalogs. One of them was for adult CD's, perhaps 
you could list your catalog there if you do mail order.
  I am looking forward to seeing your new disks that you have talked about. I
amalso going to re-buy busty babes II. It seems that I fell prey to some one's 
low blow at either your company or the people that make adult cd's. I read
the reveiws in the CD for sale every day. About 2 or 3 days ago I read a reveiw
that said the scans were terrible and the CD is a rip-off. This I know to be a 
lie since the first review that I read about BB II. Even the people didn't like
the disk because of the shareware or adult GIF's all commented on the sharpness
of the scans. Whoever keeps posting these bad reveiws of your CD is hurting
your sales. There should be a way of finding out who keeps posting these, and  
    stopping him\her. With all the false information that they are posting they
are most likely hurting the sales of your CD. Do to replies from you and Bob
Jacksonit has cleared up a lot of the misinformation that was posted on this
echo. I 
intend to buy a copy of Busty Babes II at the computer show on Nov. 28 for my
collection. I am going to be waiting for the new ones to come out.
			thanks for clearing that up
				tom
 

... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: LEROY GRIFFITHS                        Number: 7411
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/16/93 10:57p
Subj: Cream  of the Crop                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > CDLIST.zip! Better yet,
 > we will File attach our CDLIST of over 850 titles for any
 > sysop

OK, file attach to me here at 1:270/316 and I'll see that it gets around this
area. Thanks.

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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 7412
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/15/93  3:18p
Subj: Re: Insight                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> ensure your overseas market can import it in--It's a 
 LN> *DAMN* thankless job with a peanuts profit margin. Now, 
 LN> we have consideration for the interface and the 
 LN> licensing right to drive the disc--So those that think 
 LN> that publishing is $1.35 disc, and we publishers are 
 LN> fat cats, I welcome anyone into this profession--Our 

     Thanks for your insights into the biz Lee...very informative and eye
opening for a potential publisher (...different niche).
 DCK


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From: GARY COLMAN                            Number: 7413
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/12/93  3:24a
Subj: Order                                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Er - Mike...  Since NightOwl has been having SOOOOOOOOOOOOO many problems
recently, would it be possible to change my order??
If not, don't worry, but if yes, then here is the revised order:

Thanks...
------------------------8<-----------------------------------------

Hi Mike

+ 7th Guest.....................39.00
+ Tech Arsenal..................22.00
+ Programmer's MegaPack.........29.00
                               ------
  Value of Order:              $90.00

* Dictionaries & Language.......13.00
* Our Solar System..............13.00
* C User's Group Library........31.00
* Source CD-ROM.................20.00
* Space Shuttle (New!)..........25.00
* Technotools...................13.00
* Visions of Saturn.............23.00

Saw your ads - great selection...  Pity about the Rand/$ exchange - I'd
love to soak up some more of those CD's...

Anyway, those above, marked with a (+) I would like to order...
If you could please FAX me a pro-forma invoice so that I can get a
bank draft thru to you..(Please include cost for Standard cheapie
airmail (registered) )

FAX NUMBER: +27-21-434-0077         (Please mark:  FOR GARY COLMAN)
BBS NUMBER: +27-21-462-4580         (14.4K 8n1 24 hours)
NETMAIL: Gary Colman @ 5:7102/129   (Fidonet)
E-MAIL:  CLMGAR01@Uctvax.uct.ac.za  (Internet)
Or I'll be lurking in CDROM and CDROM_SALE on FidoNet

Those titles marked with a (*) could you please send some info on..

Just a quick question - is there a discount for
  SYSOPs ??
  STUDENTS ??  (Worth a try ;-) )
     - I'm studying Elec Eng/Comp Sci, 1st year


Thanks very much
  Gary Colman
  (Sysop: Chameleon BBS)


BTW - I netmailed you a couple o' times, and crashed mail to you twice -
quite a costly experience..  Dunno if you got it or not, so here I am in
here...

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From: GARTH ARENDSE                          Number: 7414
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/13/93 12:12p
Subj: 3 speed                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I believe that NEC is releasing a 3 speed CDROM drive.Is it true and if so
what is the model #.

I also have a old creative multimedia upgrade kit.Is it photo CD compat ?
it is a 531 i think

Thanx

Garth

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From: STEAN SNYMAN                           Number: 7415
  To: GARTH ARENDSE                            Date: 11/14/93  9:02a
Subj: 3 speed                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Garth!

Saturday November 13 1993, Garth Arendse writes to All:

 GA> I also have a old creative multimedia upgrade kit.Is it photo CD compat ?
 GA> it is a 531 i think

I run one here as well..  It is Photo CD comp, but only single session
photo-cd's...

Adios
Stean

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From: GARTH ARENDSE                          Number: 7416
  To: STEAN SNYMAN                             Date: 11/14/93 10:33p
Subj: Photo CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I hope I am not getting technical here .

Since it is Photo CD compatible does it also supports mode 2 or XA format ? 
Thanx for the reply
Garth 
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7417
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/17/93  9:37a
Subj: MOST OFTEN HEARD EXCU                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike Shannon was saying to All on the subject of Most often heard excuses ...
 MS> -!---------------------------------------------------------------------
 MS> --- The following quotes taken from the Toronto News 1977 are actual
 MS> statements found on insurance forms where car drivers attempted to
 MS> summarize the details of an accident in the fewest possible words.
 MS> These instances of faulty writing serve to confirm that even
 MS> incompetent writing may be highly entertaining.
 MS> -!---------------------------------------------------------------------
No a CD full of these woudl be worth writing. Spent 10 minutes ROFLMAO!!

... Not tonight, dear...I have a modem.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 7418
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/16/93  9:09p
Subj: CD-ROM Vendor List                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

This list (C) 1993, EMS Professional Shareware, a producer of
specialized technical shareware CD-ROMs for PC Professionals.
Send corrections to EMS at Voice:+1(301)924-3594 Fax:
+1(301)963-2708, EMail c/o:eengelmann@worldbank.org, or
paper mail to 4505 Buckhurst Ct., Olney MD 20832-1830  U.S.A.
 
This list is all the CD-ROM vendors EMS has been able to contact.
You may find this "shopping list" useful. It may be freely
distributed as long as it and this header is not changed in any way.
 
 
CD-ROM Vendor        Phone, Fax, EMail, etc.
=================================================================
Action! Multimedia   800-822-3766
Apex Software        graham@gimble.demon.co.uk
Australian CD-ROM    (008)811190 +61-6-2914591 FIDO:3:620/252.0
 Club
BAC Marketing        
Better Business      800-697-9993
 Systems
Bureau of Electronic 800-828-4766
 Publishing
ByteSize Software    800-23BYTES
Cache Computer       F:852-3879935
CD ROM (UK) Ltd      +44-71-357-7516
CD World             803-481-2276
CD-ROM Access        800-959-5260 415-941-2400
CD-ROM Club          714-522-3554 800-726-3554 Fax:714-522-3155
CD-ROM Direct        800-332-2404 617-332-2445 Fax:617-332-1783
CD-ROM Inc.          800-821-5245 303-526-7600 Fax:303-526-7395
CD-ROM International 800-678-2374
CD-ROM King          708-577-1553 No answer 7-13-93, 10-21-93
CD-ROM Source        317-726-0222 Fax:317-547-3983
CD-ROM Support BBS   09-384-9043 BBS:383-4925
CD-ROM User's Group  805-965-0265 Fax:805-965-5415
CD-ROMs & More Int'l 708-279-7055 Fax:708-279-7049
CDR Inc.             708-974-8086 Fax:708-974-9510
CDROMS Unlimited     510-795-4286 Fax:510-795-4286
CDXpress             081-514-2741
Centerline           503-753-9113 cntrline@atlantis.cs.orst.edu 
                     centerline@kira.csos.orst.e
CMS Software         800-768-7929 812-442-0110 Fax:812-442-0110 
 Distribution         Rime:488
CompDesign           606-278-9997 Fax:606-277-0334
CompuCD              F:+61-06-2319771
Compustuff           216-725-7729 F:216-723-7070 Ted's in from 
                     10-7 Ohio time.
Computer by Design   812-474-0910 F:812-474-2264
Computer Niche       800-962-2733
Computer Shanty      800-879-0567 808-834-1082
ComputerHelp         612-890-4750                               
Computers at Large   408-255-1081 Fax:255-2388
ComputerWorks        205-793-4481 Answering machine at private 
                     residence.
Computron            Orders:800-CDR-OM14 708-982-5144 
                     Fax:708-675-6286
Consolidated CD ROM  215-276-3657 Fax:215-276-3854
Consumer Products    718-641-9493 "This extension not taking 
                     calls"
Cornerstone Computer 614-436-9223 Fax:614-436-8326
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From: KAWAI WONG                             Number: 7419
  To: BRIAN HIPPS                              Date: 11/17/93 12:30p
Subj: Chinon 431 CDROM Player                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> 2-Chinon 431 internal stereo cdrom players.These are SCSI drives. Comes with
-> docs,audio cables,16bit controller that will control up to 7 players. These
-> are currently chained on the one controller. $175 for drive and
-> controller,$150 for drive only. Or $300 for both drives and

   I'll take one (w/o controller) for $125 + shipping...
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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7420
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/13/93  2:01a
Subj: ADULT TITLES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                  "NEW & IMPROVED USER-FRIENDLY PRICE LIST!"
       "WE DON'T CARE ABOUT MAKING MONEY - WE JUST LOVE TO SELL CD'S!"
        Over 850 disc titles & hardware products are now available.
To order, contact:
                                 Joe Rinehart
                                 P.O. Box 27
                            Kent, Ohio 44240-0001
  Voice: (216) 296-9831  24 hours
  Voice: (216) 296-1633 6pm-midnight (EST)
  Voice/Messages/Fax: (216) 297-1332 24 hours
  Toll-Free (in Ohio Only) 1-800-521-2881 6pm - midnight (EST)
  Data/Fax (216) 296-4446 ZyXel 16.8 v.42bis The Blue Parrot RBBS 24HRS
  FidoNet: 1:157/479
  KesherNet: 18:711/176
  RBBSNet: 8:965/13
  WWIVNet: 2@2659
  CD CATALOG FREQ:  CDLIST.ZIP or majic name CDLIST
  COMPLETE CATALOG FREQ:  PARROT.ZIP (contains all products new & used)

SHIPPING TERMS:  Purchaser pays shipping!  $5.00 C.O.D.Charge, 2 lbs or less
for $2.90 second day U.S.P.S. Priority Mail.  $1.00 Handling fee on orders
under $50.00.  3rd Class shipping on request. All orders are insured.
International orders shipped acccording to U.S. Customs regulations.

MISC. INFORMATION:
All prices are in U.S. Currency.
Make checks payable to:  Carl Knorr or Joe Rinehart
10% discount on CD-Titles for verified sysops or resale orders over $250!
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CD Caddies                                  mi    5.00  with disc order 4.50

New Machine CD Adult Sampler ROM                 a      10.00
SuperSpace                                       a      16.00
Hawaii CD                                        a      19.00
Island Girls                                     a      19.00
Local Girls                                      a      19.00
T & A 2 the Maxx                                 a      19.98
Hacker Whacker Fun Pack                          a      21.00
Phone Sex                                        a      21.98
Women of Venus                                   a      22.40
Exotic Girls                                     a      24.00
Smutware                                         a      24.00
Gifs Galaxy                                      a      25.60
Cyborgasm                                        a      25.98
Digital Dreams                                   a      27.00
Amateur Model                                    a      27.98
Adult Palette                                    a      28.80
Animation Festival                               a      28.80
Extreme Delight (adult CD)                       a      28.80
Giffy Gold                                       a      28.80
Assets                                           a      29.00
Busty Babes Volume 2 - Brand new!                a      29.00
Commodities                                      a      29.00
Dividends                                        a      29.00
Manpower                                         a      29.00
FAO Volume 1                                     a      30.00
FAO Volume 2                                     a      30.00
FAO Volume 3                                     a      30.00
Storm I                                          a      30.00
Wild Women                                       a      30.00
American Girls (200 soft nudes)                  a      30.40
Cr‚me de la Cr‚me                                a      30.40
High Volume Nudes                                a      30.40
Women Who Love Men Who Love Women                a      30.40
Photo Gallery by Steve Hicks                     a      31.97
Fat Dog Exposed                                  a      31.98
Southern Beauties                                a      32.50
Hot Pix 3                                        a      33.00
Hot Pix 4                                        a      33.00
Hot Pix 5                                        a      33.00
Island Girls V2                                  a      33.00
Local Girls Volume 2                             a      33.00
Physical Therapy                                 a      33.00
Tropical Girls                                   a      33.00
Adult Reference Library                          a      34.00
Sweet Dreams                                     a      34.50
All Beauties                                     a      35.00
Camp Double DD                                   a      35.00
Erotic Encounters                                a      35.00
Girls, Girls, Girls, Girls                       a      35.00
Storm II                                         a      35.00
Swimwear & More, Volume I                        a      35.00
Weekend at Ernie's                               a      35.00
PGGl - Adult Gif disk by Groupware               a      36.00
Lovely Ladies II                                 a      36.80
Girls of Vivid #1                                a      37.50
Girls of Vivid #2                                a      37.50
Busting Out/vivid Digital                        a      38.40
Debbie Does Dallas                               a      38.40
Deep Throat                                      a      38.40
Insatiable                                       a      38.40
New Wave Hookers Vol. 1                          a      38.40
New Wave Hookers Vol. 2                          a      38.40
Nova Collection Volume I                         a      38.40
Rimfire Pacific Video                            a      38.40
Seedy Movies                                     a      38.40
The Devil in Miss Jones                          a      38.40
Caf‚ Flesh                                       a      39.97
101 Sex Positions #1                             a      40.00
101 Sex Positions #2                             a      40.00
After Dark Trilogy                               a      40.00
Busty Babes, Volume I (3.0)                      a      40.00
Devil in Miss Jones                              a      40.00
Dirty Talk                                       a      40.00
Fractal Ecstasy                                  a      40.00
Tranz                                            a      40.00
Mystic of the Orient                             a      40.50
Amorous Asian Girls                              a      41.00
College Girls                                    a      41.00
3-D Body Adventure                               a      42.00
Condo Cuties                                     a      42.00
Erotic Encounters                                a      42.00
Girls of Mardi Gras                              a      42.00
Princess of Persia                               a      42.00
Best of Vivid                                    a      42.50
Kama Sutra                                       a      42.50
Legends of Porn vol. 2                           a      42.50
Asian Ladies                                     a      43.00
Wicked Whispers                                  a      43.00
Animated Fantasies II                            a      44.00
L A Strippers (Interactive)                      a      44.80
My First Time                                    a      44.80
Nightwatch                                       a      44.80
Ecstacy Hot Pics                                 a      45.00
FAO Gold I                                       a      45.00
My Private Collection Volume 2                   a      45.00
PC Pix Vol 3                                     a      45.00
Porkware II                                      a      45.00
Secrets                                          a      45.00
Storm III                                        a      45.00
House of Sleeping Beauties                       a      46.40
King Dong                                        a      47.00
Adventures of Seymour Butts                      a      48.00
Adventures of Seymour Butts Windows              a      48.00
Bangkok II                                       a      48.00
Digital Dancing                                  a      48.00
Dream Machine (IBM)                              a      48.00
Dream Machine (Macintosh)                        a      48.00
Erotic Dreams (R-Rated Interactive)              a      48.00
Hidden Obsessions                                a      48.00
House of Dreams Digital Movies                   a      48.00
Night Trips Interactive Adult                    a      48.00


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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7421
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/13/93  2:01a
Subj: ADULT TITLES                            Refer: NONE
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Private Pictures I                               a      48.00
Relationship Enhancement Series v1               a      48.00
Things Change-- 1st Time                         a      48.00
Betrayal Quicktime Movie                         a      50.00
Cat and Mouse (Quicktime)                        a      50.00
Doors of Passion                                 a      50.00
Ecstasy Hot Pics                                 a      50.00
Wicked - DOS version                             a      50.00
Wicked - Windows                                 a      50.00
Club Paradise                                    a      51.00
Wickedmovie (ONLY) Quicktime                     a      51.25
Bangkok                                          a      53.00
Porkware                                         a      53.00
Dream Machine (IBM)                              a      54.00
Dream Machine (Mac)                              a      54.00
Glamour Girls of 1943                            a      54.00
Inferno                                          a      54.00
Penthouse Interactive                            a      54.00
Sorority House (IBM)                             a      54.00
Buttman                                          a      56.00
Secrets                                          a      57.00
Sorority House (Mac)                             a      57.00
Paradise Club                                    a      60.00
Adult Movie Almanac            --- TBBS v2.1/NM
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 7422
  To: DAVID DOYLE                              Date: 11/13/93  8:19p
Subj: Pioneer 6 Pack CD-rom                   Refer: NONE
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 DD> Looking for one  of the pioneer 6 packs. Those of 
 DD> you who have them for
 DD> sale write me here and gimme a price. Descrie which model you are
 DD> pricing out. and I don't like to haggle so Bottom dollar will get the
 DD> ball rolling. this is an open bid to all who can supply 1-3 to these
 DD> babies since i am tired of swappin out on my 
 
We sell the DRM600A which is fine for BBS use.  They are $689 each or $769 per
with controller kit.  The price reflects a 3% cash discount and requires $8
each shipping.  They are 600ms access with a 150kb transfer rate and bout 5-7
second index time and are SCSI.  Give us a call at 615-339-0235 if you would
like to order some.  Better hurry, as they have been discontinued and our
vendor expects to be out of them by next month.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 7423
  To: BRIAN ELFERT                             Date: 11/13/93  8:28p
Subj: CD-ROM drives                           Refer: NONE
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 BE> I am selling SIX external SCSI CD-ROM drives.  Perfect for BBS use.

You might try Gene Schoepp at 214-238-5762 or 214-265-4344 and see if he is
interested still.  He bought a couple of Pioneer drives from me and setting a
big BBS up in Texas and was interested in some about a month ago.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 7424
  To: RICK HARRIS                              Date: 11/13/93  8:30p
Subj: Nix Pix                                 Refer: NONE
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 RH>         Anyone know were i could buy the nix pix series??
 RH>                                 ,Rick
 RH> --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta-'e'
 
I still have a few version #2 and #3s in stock.  You can have them for $19 each
plus shipping.  Must be over 21 and call 615-339-0235 if you'd like to order
them....no CODs on adult titles.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 7425
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/13/93  8:37p
Subj: cdrom list 1 of 5                       Refer: NONE
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AB20 Amiga CD-Rom...300+mb, 3000+ Amiga shareware files..........10.00
America's Premier 1993 Shareware...Win,Games,fonts,clipart,gifs..16.95
Aminet Amiga...Near 600 meg from Aminet Interet Archives.....**..14.50
AMSoft (Ham)...Thousands of ham shareware/ham related programs...26.95
A.S.P...Best of ASP Association Authors Shareware................21.95
Big Sky...Hundreds of shareware programs,fast bbs install....**..26.00
C Users Group Library...User supported source code-dos,unix,cpm..27.95
CD Powerbox...6,858 files-50 categories-all '91-'92 files....**..19.95
Fred Fish On-Line 1.5...700+ 360k discs of Amiga shareware...**..49.95
Garbo MSDOS/MAC Shareware...About 250mb DOS/125mb MAC-made 5/92..14.50
Giga Games...3000+ MSDOS/Windows games/educational programs..**..18.95
Gigabyte Gold...13,111 files-99 categories-all '89-'91 files.**..19.95
Ham Radio...Enormous collection of Ham & SWL programs & data.....11.95
Libris Britannica...600+mb British shareware-tech/scientific.**..29.95
Lion Share...4208 files-400+ meg-50% '91/50% '92 shareware...**..21.95
Monster Disc...2 CDS-all 1992 shareware with book............**..37.95
Monster Media '93 #2..Sequel to Monster-400+mb-all '93-book..**..25.95
Nightowl 6.0 or 7.0...600+mb-'91/92-6M+ files-50+ categories.**..19.95
Nightowl 8.0 or 9.0...600+mb-'92/93-5M+ files-50+ categories.**..19.95
Nightowl 10.0 (New)...600+mb-all '93-5M+files-70% after 6/93.**..28.95
Nightowl Bus. Applications...Best of Nightowl business shareware.18.95
Nightowl Games...............................................**..18.95
Nightowl Graphics...All gifs.................................**..24.95
OS/2 Archives-Hobbes...2772 files-600+mb-shareware/freeware-6/93.14.50
OS2/Box...From the makers of CD Power/Winbox (Pre-Orders)........24.95
PC Sig H & B Collection...Best of PC Sig for home & business.....16.95
PC Sig World of Games............................................18.95
PC Sig World of Windows..........................................18.95
PC Sig #10...Great collection of shareware-'92...............**..16.95
PC Sig #11 or #12...Professional collection-3700+-'92-'93....**..17.95
PC Sig #9...Great collection of shareware-'90-'91............**..12.95
Phoenix #3...600+ mb shareware from 1992.....................**..11.95
Phoenix #4 (New)...Sequel to Phoenix 3-shareware.............**..16.95
Pier 3.......................................................**..24.95
Powerpak Gold...Released in 1992-Best of best-7354 files.....**..11.95
SDN 1...Collection of shareware from the SDN network.........**..19.95
Shareware Extravaganza..(4 cds)-BBS collection-25M+ files....**..38.95
Shareware 1993 v1...5,000+ files-early '93-620mb.............**..19.95
Shareware 1993 v2...6,000 files-all '93, no dupes with v1....**..23.95
Shareware Explorer..(4 cds)-5 star series-26,000 files.......**..39.95
Shareware Games..6M+ files-4/93-sports,arcade,casino,solutions...21.95
Shareware Heaven.................................................14.95
Shareware On-Line #2...'93 release...........................**..27.95
ShareWare Overload...550mb-6100 files-wide variety of programs...11.95
Shareware Studio #1..........................................**..19.95
Shareware Studio #2...637mb,6,659 files,all '92-'93 files....**..19.95
Shareware Studio #3..........................................**..19.95
Shareware Tiger...600+mb of shareware-1991...................**..19.95
Simtel 2...from internet site-9,000+ files,viewer,1/92.......**.. 8.95
Simtel 2...from internet site-9,000+ files,viewer,5/93.......**..13.95
So Much Shareware #1.........................................**..15.95
So Much Shareware #2.........................................**..19.95
So Much Shareware #3...650mb.................................**..21.95
Software Vault #2...8000 programs,most '93,released 5/93.....**..15.95
Software Vault #3-Gold...590+mb,all '93,no dupes with 1 or 2.**..19.95
Sound Sensations..Sound effects,clips,music,convertors,voices....11.95
Source Code..600+mb,15M+ files,usenet/simtel/msdos,unix/dos-3/92.19.95
Tech Arsenal.....................................................21.95
Technotools...Programmer shareware tools,many languages..........11.95
Top 2000 Shareware..Family/kids oriented,menu-driven.............19.95
Up All Night...Nice collection from Bob Hall-Summer '93......**..16.95
Win Platinum...Great colelction of Windows programs..............23.95
Winbox (CD)..................................................**..24.95
Window Master....................................................19.45
Windoware..Shareware for Win 3.1+,large variety of applications..11.95
Windows 1993...7,347 files,600+mb,'90-'92 files,many areas...**..23.95
Windows - CICA...from internet ftp site-hundreds of meg-4/93.**..14.50
X11R5/GNU Cdrom..X11R5 window system source,GNU source,Sparc.....24.95
20th Century Video Almanac.......................................32.95
7th Guest...Interactive drama in a real virtual environment......34.95
1001 Utilities...................................................12.95
9000 Sounds..Sblaster,midi,wav,adlib,pc speaker,cakewalk,mod.**..22.95
Adventures in Heaven...Games-challenge,explore,capture,monsters..14.95
Adventures of Willy Beamish...Comedy/adventure game w/Wild Willy.19.95
Aesops Fables...54 fables-music/narration/illustrations..........29.95
Aircraft Encyclopedia...MPC database of world military aircraft..35.95
Amanda Stories...Adventures of Indigo the cat & faithful camel...44.95
American Bus. Fone Book '92......................................13.95
American Bus. Fone Book '93-4....................................22.95
American Vista Atlas..Pics/maps/music/audio/history/wildlife/MPC.29.95
Anecdotes........................................................26.95
Animals SD Zoo DOS-18.95...Tour 200+ animals-300+ exhibits...MPC-20.50
Arthur's Teacher Trouble..Multimedia,surprises on every page.....26.95
Audobon Birds...1840 edition-500+ images-full text-bird calls....19.95
Audobon Mammals...Full color pallette-full text-CD quality sound.19.95
B17 Silent Service...............................................39.95
Barney Bear Goes to School...Interactive-teaches math/reading....21.95
Barney Bear Goes to Space...Barney tours space in the shuttle....21.95
Barron's Book Notes...101 complete unabridged book notes-more....38.95
BattleChess MPC...Multimedia animated chess game-audio/music.....21.95
Beauty & the Beast...WIN 3,multimedia storybook,interactive......24.95
Between Heaven & Hell 2 or 3.....................................44.95
Beyond the Wall of Stars..Futuristic adventure game beyond.......19.95
Bible Library...9 Bibles, 20 references, 27 concordances.........25.95
Bibles & Religion................................................11.95
Blue Force.......................................................43.95
Brittanica Family Choice..15 items-Berenstein Bears,Spellcopter..20.95
Brittanica Select...Business software, DAC-Easy, more............18.95

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 7426
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/13/93  8:39p
Subj: cdrom prices 2 of 5                     Refer: NONE
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Business Assistant...............................................13.00
Business Master...1100+ business related shareware-600+ meg......19.95
Business Phone Dir w/Zip+........................................34.95
Cameron's Fine Art Poster Catalog..Reproductions,sculpture,info..31.95
Carmen San Diego World Deluxe...3000 clues,music,anim,graphics...24.95
CD Cad v3.7 with manual...Full featured CAD w/templates..........31.95
CD Game Pack 1...6 great games...................................14.95
Cd Game Pack 2..12 games,Chessmaster 2000,Bruce Lee,Black Hole...17.95
ChessMaster 3000 MPC..from a master,learn basic to advanced.skil.18.95
Christmas Carol...The classic Charles Dickens tale...............28.95
Classic Collection (4 Pak) Sherlock,Shakespeare,Birds,Mammals....41.95
Clip Art Galore...1950 hard to find images for DTP..........**...22.95
Clip Art Goliath...11,000 images in pcx/tiff format..............11.95
Clip Art Heaven...300+ dpi images-pcx/tiff/cdr/bmp,convert/view..14.95
Coates Art Review...600+ images of impressionist works, info.....31.95
College Handbook (1992)..........................................18.95
Color Magic Clip Art..300 dpi,256 colors,royalty free............19.95
Colossal Cookbook................................................11.95
Complete Bookshop................................................11.95
Composer Quest...................................................33.95
Compton's Interactive Encylopedia................................79.95
Compton's MM Encyclopedia........................................42.95
Computer Reference Library...Tutorials for Lotus, Word Perf,more.11.95
Conan the Cimmerian..............................................28.95
Consumer Information Disc........................................37.50
Cookbook Heaven..................................................15.95
Corel 3.0 CD.....................................................57.95
Corel 3.0 Floppy + CD...........................................129.95
Corel 4.0 CD Upgrade............................................213.95
Corel 4.0 Floppy + CD Upgrade...................................219.95
Countries of the World..........................................299.95
Crossword Cracker................................................23.95
Daggar of Amon...................................................25.95
Danger Hot Stuff 2...............................................24.95
Dare, Bluff, or Die..Role play history of Wild West,educational..29.95
Database...Programs for Clipper,Foxpro,Paradox,dBase,Rbase.......19.95
DeathStar Arcade Battles.........................................11.95
Deep Voyage......................................................34.95
Desert Storm..100's of reports,photos,recorded interviews........22.95
Desktop Bookshop.................................................18.95
Dickens Complete.................................................44.95
Dictionaries & Languages..Lessons in French,German,Russain,more..11.95
Dictionary of the Living World..Facts/photos-5M+ animal species..28.95
Dinosaur Adventure..Pics,animation,narration,sounds,educational..24.95
Dinosaur Encyclopedia............................................23.95
Dinosaur Safari..................................................44.95
Dr. Games........................................................19.95
Dr. Music........................................................19.95
Dr. Windows......................................................19.95
Doctors Book of Home Remedies....................................33.95
Dune..Enhanced,original music score,best fantasy adventure game..46.95
Eco Quest, Search for Cetus......................................25.95
Education Master...Educational oriented shareware collection.....19.95
Electronic Cookbook...Complete library-1800+ recipes,pics,hints..23.95
Electronic Home Library..250 books,Plato,Poe,Shakespeare,more....21.95
Encyclopedia of Clip Art.........................................23.95
Encyclopedia of Sound..250+ sound files,WAV format,royalty free..11.95
Eric the Unready.................................................38.95
Essential Home & Business Collection..from PC Sig,368 best files.18.95
European Monarchs..History with bizarre details of kings/queens..33.95
Executive Factomatic.............................................36.95
Eye of the Beholder..............................................26.95
F117A/F1511 W/Scenario...........................................44.95
F15 III Strike Eagle.............................................57.95
Family Doctor...2000 common questions,data on 1600 drugs,pics....22.95
Fantazia Fonts & Sounds..........................................25.95
Firearms Reference..600 products in WIN/DOS BMP format.....**....21.95
Food Analyst.....................................................32.95
Fonts #1.........................................................27.95
Fresh Arte...1,500 copyright-free drawings/graphics,400 dpi......31.95
Full Bloom..100+ pics,25 movies,100 piano clips-exotic flowers...36.95
Funny............................................................28.95
Future Wars......................................................48.95
Game Arena.......................................................13.00
GameMaster (Over 500 Games)......................................19.45
Gameware Collection..............................................23.95
Games 1993...6M+ files,Apogee,unprotects,tips,arcade,flight..**..24.50
Gardening...Photos, planning, clipart, landscaping, home garden..11.95
Gifs Galore...rated G-6,000+ GIF images-wide variety.............14.50
Global Explorer (Delorme)...Streets of major world cities........84.95
Gofer Winkles Adventure...Multimedia comic book w/story & speech.34.95
Golden Immortal..................................................24.95
Goldilocks 3 Bears-English or French or Spanish..................38.95
Gov't Giveaways-Entreprenuers....................................47.95
Great Cities of World 1...MPC-10 cities-Moscow,Paris,NY,LA,Rio...23.95
Great Cities of World 2...Berlin,Buenos Aires,Chicago,Rome,more..23.95
Great Wonders of the World 1...12+ sights-Great Wall,Taj Mahal...42.95
Great Wonders of the World 2.....................................49.95
Greatest Books Collection..150+ titles,world's important books...32.95
Grolier Ill. Encyl. (STW) v2.....................................21.95
Grolier Ill. Encyl. (STW) MM or MPC..............................35.95
Guiness Disc of Records (92).....................................22.95
Gunship 2000 w/Scenario..........................................39.95
Guy Spy..........................................................39.95
Hacker Chronicles................................................21.95
HamWare 1993.....................................................19.95
Holy Bible & Other Christian Software............................18.95
Hospitality Index................................................39.95
House of Games...................................................18.95

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 7427
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/13/93  8:39p
Subj: cdrom prices 3 of 5                     Refer: NONE
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Indiana Jones IV.................................................43.95
Inspector Gadget.................................................46.95
Inter. Business/Economc Atlas....................................23.95
Island Designs...................................................36.95
Jack and the Beanstalk...........................................38.95
Jazz, Multimedia History...Biographies w/CD quality audio........26.95
Jets & Props..2 discs,200+ pics,200 audio clips,civil/military...29.95
Jokes & Pranks...................................................13.00
Jones in the Fast Lane.Up to 4-board game-money/career/education.19.00
Jungle Book-KAA Hunt.............................................34.95
Jungle Book-Mowgli...............................................34.95
Jungle Book-Tiger................................................34.95
Just Fonts v1....................................................19.95
Just Grandma & Me...Ultimate adventure to explore the beach......38.95
Kathy Smith-Fat Burning Systm....................................54.95
Key Clipmaster Pro...............................................32.95
Key Fonts Pro....................................................32.95
Key Home Designer................................................32.95
Kids Zoo-Baby Animal Adv.........................................36.95
Kodak Photo CD Access CD..Software-24 dazzling pics in 6 formats.16.95
King James Bible.................................................27.95
Kings Quest V...King Graham embarks to rescue his family.........19.95
Kings Quest VI Upgrade...........................................33.95
Kings Quest VI..Best games ever,help shipwrecked prince alex.....43.95
Lan Master.......................................................24.95
Languages of the World MPC-12 languages-cross ref,dict,translate.25.95
Laura Bow II.....................................................44.95
Learning at Home.................................................49.95
Learning Adventure...ABCs,123s,high school,college,games,tutors..10.00
Learning Heaven...ABCs to SAT,type,math,read,spell,sign lang.....14.95
Legend of Kyrandia...............................................48.95
Library of the Future 1..1150+ pieces literature from 450 titles.38.95
Library of the Future 2..2M+ pieces literature from 950+ titles.199.95
Lifestyles-R & F Cookbook........................................37.95
Little Red Riding Hood...........................................37.95
Loom...Lucasfilm,interactive,adventure to land of mystical bird..18.95
Lord of the Rings................................................49.95
MacMillan Dictionary-Children..12M+ words,1000+ pics,400 sounds..22.95
Mad Dog McCree...Arcade shooting game w/motion picture action....39.95
Magazine Rack....................................................20.95
Majestic Places..................................................34.95
Manhole..........................................................35.50
Maniac Mansion #2: Day of the Tentacle...........................43.95
Mantis..Fly XF5700 experimental fighter of future-fight aliens...19.95
Mario is Missing/World Atlas...Find Mario-teaches geography......26.95
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing..Renowned,expanded help/lessons......21.95
Mayo Clinic......................................................21.95
Mega Clipart.....................................................26.95
Mega Movie Guide..Comprehensive info on 50M+ movies,search.......42.95
Microsoft Beethoven 9th Symphony..Analysis,notes,lyrics,insights.57.95
Micrsft Bookshelf...Atlas,Dict,Encyl,Almanac,Quotes,Rogets ('93).40.95
Microsoft Cinnemania.............................................55.95
Microsoft Dinosaurs MPC..Interactive journey thru their world....56.95
Microsoft Golf..WIN MPC edition-on par with reality..............49.95
Microsoft Mozart.................................................62.95
Microsoft Stravinsky.............................................57.95
Microsoft Music Instruments......................................56.95
Microsoft Works..................................................39.95
Middle East Diary................................................30.00
Midi Music Shop..................................................19.95
Mixed Up Mother Goose..Ages 3+-Characters speak/sing-5 languages.19.00
Modblaster...300 classical,jazz,rock-play/analyze music files....17.95
Monarch Notes...Complete works-all sets..........................42.95
Monkey Island (Secrets of).......................................19.95
Mother Earth #2..................................................27.95
Mother of All Clipart...23,000 images-one of the largest around..15.95
Mozart...........................................................34.95
MPC Wizard-Windows...Tune a PC-CDROM tests,video/audio drv,demos.13.95
Multimedia, All American.........................................21.95
Multimedia Music Bach............................................27.95
Multimedia Tutor.................................................17.95
Murder Mystery Stories...........................................44.95
National MM Parks Guide..Parks,monuments,historic,lakes,more.....19.95
National Geographic MPC Mammals..................................23.95
North American Fax Book..150M+ fax numbers,addresses-US/Can/Mex..32.95
North American Indians..text/image database,customs,family life..32.95
Officers Bookcase................................................32.95
Oxford English Refernce Library..8 works-English/Thesaurus,more..99.95
Our House (Family Circus)........................................42.95
Our Solar System..NASA/observ photos,star locators,astro data....11.95
PC Globe 5.0.....................................................49.95
PC Karoake (OEM).................................................43.95
PC Karaoke...Create/record your own music videos & sing-a-longs..74.95
PC Karaoke Kids w/Microphone.....................................44.95
PC Medic...Diagnose problems on your PC..........................27.95
PC Sig Games.....................................................23.95
Pentaminoes......................................................31.95
Peter Rabbit.....................................................24.95
Peter & the Wolf (Win3)...Unique version-Jack Lemmon narrates....22.95
Pharmicist Guide to Drugs..Stats on 200+ most popular drugs......26.95
PhoneDisc USA...Summer '93 set of 2 CDs-80 million residential...55.95
Photos to Remember...............................................34.95
Pinacotheca MPC..800 painters,bios & work,100's of tables........21.95
Pill Book...Just like the printed version-all about 1,500+ drugs.34.95
Pixel Garden.....................................................32.95
Plant Doctor.....................................................32.95
Playing with Language-English..language games to teach skills....22.95
Playing with Language-French...language games to teach skills....22.95
Playing with Language-German...language games to teach skills....22.95

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 7428
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/13/93  8:40p
Subj: cdrom prices 4 of 5                     Refer: NONE
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Playing with Language-Japanese.language games to teach skills....22.95
Playing with Language-Spanish..language games to teach skills....22.95
Precision Mapping.Street maps,zoom,cad,clip,measure,print,search.68.95
Presidents, It All Started with George...........................71.95
Project Gutenberg................................................19.95
Prophone Business 1993...7 million business listings.............20.95
Prophone (3 CD Set - '92)...33 million listings-1 bus/2 resident.27.95
Prophone MidYear 1993..77 millon records-1 bus/6 residential.....99.95
ProStar..........................................................48.95
Publique Arte...Thousands of 600 dpi images-.ZIP/.PCX formats....32.95
Publish It v2.0 (w/Manual)..Word processer-graphics/layout-art...20.95
Publishers Dream Disc..1M's of PCX, ATM, TT fonts,clip-art,book..28.95
Publishers Paradise w/manual.....................................25.95
Publishers Powerhouse..750 TT fonts,8200 pcx clipart,manual......22.95
Putt Putt Joins Parade...........................................49.95
P.C. Medic (Fix your PC).........................................29.50
QRZ Ham Radio..entire FCC callbook,ham programs,club lists-5/93..14.95
QuickToons...6 full length public cartoons,Quicktime,color,b/w...35.95
Readers Library...2000 works of history,reference,literature.....20.95
Return of the Phantom............................................48.95
Return to the Moon...............................................33.95
Revell Power Model Aircraft......................................48.95
Revell Power Model Muscle........................................48.95
Revell Power Model Racer.........................................48.95
Ring World.......................................................45.95
Roger Ebert Movie Companion......................................34.95
Rotor............................................................24.95
Sales Manager's Factomatic.......................................36.95
Schumachers Prague Cookbook......................................44.95
Sci-Fi..Pics/Sound/Files-Star Trek,Star Wars,Fantasy,more....**..23.95
Seals of the US Government.......................................32.95
Secret Island Dr. Quandry........................................39.95
Secret Weapons of the LuftWaffe.Lucasfilm,fly experimental craft.23.95
Secrets-Exec Success Stories.....................................36.95
Seventh Bun......................................................37.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1..Solve case-be a sleuth-interactive..20.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2..Further mysteries-live video........48.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3..Further mysteries-intrigue-motion...52.95
Sherlock Holmes...Complete set of texts..........................16.95
Shakespeare...Complete set of texts..............................16.95
Sights & Sounds...Gifs & sound files.....................**......24.95
Snap Dragon......................................................39.95
Snapdragon.......................................................39.95
So Much Screenware (Gifs)....................................**..27.95
Softw Jukebox-All Amer Sports....................................42.95
Soundblaster MOD Files...........................................24.95
Sound Effects Library............................................17.95
Sound Works (Software)...Play audio discs on your CD drive.......17.95
Soundware Collection.............................................24.95
SoundWav.........................................................24.95
Space Adventure..Voyage-explore space,history,full-motion video..24.95
Space Quest IV..Roger Wilco adventure,rock-n-roll soundtrack.....19.95
Space Shuttle....................................................24.95
Spirit of Excalibur..Role playing/fantasy game-medieval England..28.95
Sporting News-Pro Football.......................................36.95
Sports Best on CDRom...Parasailing,tennis,kickboxing,more........24.95
Star Child.......................................................39.95
Stellar 7...Action arcade game,20 different enemies,7 worlds.....19.00
StickyBear Preschool.............................................36.95
Storybook Weaver.................................................39.95
StoryTime #1..Goldilocks,Red Hen,3 Bears-teaches read/spell......24.95
Storytime #2..Boy Cried Wolf,Milkmaid & Pail,Belling the Cat.....24.95
Storytime #3..Hare & Tortoise,Lion & Mouse,City/Country Mouse....38.95
Straight from Heaven..KJV,AV,ASV,Greek,Hebrew,Koran,Span,German..17.95
Street Atlas USA (v1-WIN)........................................85.95
Street Atlas USA (v2-WIN)...Complete US streetlevel atlas........88.95
Super Clipart....................................................15.95
Super Fonts......................................................15.95
Super Games for WIN v1...........................................15.95
Super Games for WIN v2...........................................15.95
Super Programmer...Source code for C,paradox,dBase,Foxpro,etc....19.95
Swimwear 1993................................................**..25.95
Swimwear & More (SVGA)...........................................28.95
Tempra Photo CD Software.........................................18.95
The Complete Twain...............................................31.95
The Grammy Awards...Entire 34 year history,pics,45 min+ audio....35.95
The Holy Bible...................................................31.95
Time Almanac 1990................................................14.95
Time Almanac 1991................................................19.95
TimeTable Art/Entertainmnt..Chronology-cultural,4200 stories.....22.95
TimeTable Business/Politics..Chronology-wealth,power,knowledge...22.95
TimeTable History/Science..Chronology-earth/cosmic,6000 stories..18.95
Too Many Fonts..TT,ATM,WFN,1st Pub,ghost script,HP laserjet......16.95
Too Many TypeFonts.514 TT fonts,393 ATM,modifiers,uploaders,more.11.95
TW Reference Library..Web. dict,thesaurus,speller,desk ref,legal.17.95
Total Baseball Encyclopedia..1871 to '91 world series,500+ pics..20.95
Travel in Europe.................................................28.95
Tropical Rainforest..............................................34.95
True Crime Stories...............................................36.95
Twelve Roads to Gettysburg...Comprehensive,MM,interviews,photos..44.95
Ultima Underworld 1 and 2........................................59.95
Unix..Complete sources & binaries,x-windows,tcp/ip..(Pre-orders).27.95
USA State Factbook...............................................32.95
USA Today, the 90s v.1..Multimedia capsule of 90s news/events....27.95
USA Wars-Civil War...Chronology,photos,bios,campaigns,audio......32.95
USA Wars-Korea...'50-'53-photos,stats,glossaries,bios,facts......32.95
USA Wars-Vietnam...Biographies,chronology,facts,audio............32.95
USA Wars-World War II...Detailed text/image/sound presentations..32.95
U.S. Atlas MPC.Explore with maps,state/region/country info,miles.24.95

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 7429
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/13/93  8:41p
Subj: cdrom prices 5 of 5                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

U.S. Atlas/Automap...Maps,demographics,enviromental,conversions..24.50
U.S. Civics...Learn USA for those who want to be US citizens.....32.95
U.S. History..(Bureau).1M+ photos,maps,tables,topics,107 books...18.95
U.S. Presidents...Biographies/stats on 41 presidents/1st ladies..32.95
U.S./World Atlas w/Chessmaster & Mavis Beacon (4 Pak)............39.95
U.S./World Atlas...Maps,demograph,conversions,oceanic,area codes.18.95
U.S./World Atlas MPC v3...Windows version........................18.95
VGA Spectrum #2...Thousands of gifs/sound files..................19.95
Visions of Saturn................................................22.95
Wacky Funsters...................................................29.95
Who Killed Sam Rupert...Interactive virtual murder mystery.......28.95
Wild Places...100 stunning photos,50 audio clips-wild America....22.95
Wing Commander 2 Deluxe..........................................57.50
Wing Commander 2/UUnderWrld......................................59.95
Wing Commander/Ultima 6.Revolutionary star fighter/magic-mystery.19.95
Wing Commander w/Secret Missions.................................24.95
Wiz Pack.........................................................11.95
Wolf Pack........................................................44.95
Women of Venus (Swimsuits).......................................20.95
World Atlas MPC...Explore each continent/country of the world....24.95
World View..Sound/piano music-images of earth & solar system.....22.95
World Vista Atlas..Tour 200 countries,music,1M+ pics,MPC.........29.95
World Fact Book..CIA/KGB Yearbook,Hamm.maps,flags,247 countries..17.95
World of Flight...Complete multimedia tour thru world of planes..35.95
World of Trains...Complete multimedia tour thru world of trains..35.95
World Traveler..Hi-rez images,royalty free,pcx/gif,mm slide show.11.95
Wrath of the Demon...............................................22.95
CD Caddies (Sony Compatible)......................................4.85
Jewel Cases.......................................................1.45
Pioneer 600A (Bare)..........729.00...........Cash Price........689.00
Pioneer 600A with Kit........799.00...........Cash Price........769.00
 
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *           We Ship Worldwide.
* PCJ Computing - October 30,1993 *    ORDERS - 615-339-0235 9-9 EST
* We meet all noncloseout pricing *  Visa/MC/Amex/Disc/Diners/Cash/Check
* No surcharges. Call our inquiry *   Inquiry/Catalogs    - 615-339-0235
* line for catalog of 600+ titles.*   Fax / BBS 14400     - 615-479-1047
* Most titles usually in stock.   *   BBS (HST)           - 615-478-2890
* Shipping not included.  * * * * *   Compuserve          - 71754,3514
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *  Internet-Doug.Carpenter@Junction.Cld9.Com

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 7430
  To: PAUL DEEMER                              Date: 11/17/93  8:24p
Subj: WARNING!! JASON AVAR                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We just got stiffed for $380 for hi-tech libraries we shipped from a VISA order
to Bulgaria. VISA even gave us an authorization number, but now claims they
won't pay because we punched the number into our ZON, instead of calling the
number in. Grrrrr.....
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From: TOM ROSETTI                            Number: 7431
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/17/93  4:28p
Subj: Re: XXX cd rom disk                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

sent this  there.

Joe Salemi
STTNG Echo Moderator

-+- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-2
 # Origin: Max's Doghouse -- Alexandria, VA /703-548-7849/ (1:109/136)
@PATH: 109/136 104 343 50 544sent this  there.

Joe Salemi
STTNG Echo Moderator

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From: SHANNON ADAMS                          Number: 7432
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/17/93 12:23p
Subj: cd purchase                             Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike:

I received the CD's I ordered from you today.  The USA Today and Mixed
Up Mother Goose are very enjoyable.  The problem is with the Beauty and
the Beast.  I bought this for my three-year-old and it is not what I
expected.  It is much too advanced for her mentality.  I am not clear on
your return policy and will understand if you don't have one.  However,
is there any way I can return this for credit toward another purchase?
Thanks for your time.
--
Shannon Adams
 Customer #28512SA
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From: BOB BROCK                              Number: 7433
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 11/17/93  4:12p
Subj: Night_Owl 10                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris are you offering a swap up even deal on this as most dealers here seem 
to be? I didn't mind finding 1 virus at first, but it appears there are more!!
I would consider swapping mine in for another of equal cost if your doing so!

Thanks... Bob...

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From: BOB MCGARRY                            Number: 7434
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/19/93  3:48p
Subj: Music CD on cdrom help                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello,

I have a Mitsumi internal CD, the LU005 model, and a Sound
Galaxy NX card.

Games work GREAT with this setup, I run the sound out from the
CD to the card (you know that 'little' plug off the back of
the CD).

The problem is I get NO sound from playing a Music CD, either
in Windows or DOS based CD players.

I do have all the required drivers loaded, any help will be
MUCH appreciated.  Thanks

Bob

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From: DON NELSON                             Number: 7435
  To: ROBERT KUMMER                            Date: 11/21/93  1:06a
Subj: CD's for Simms                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RK>             Seedy Rom #2,#3,#4,#5,#6 and After Dark.
RK>                 (after dark is all adult Gifs)
RK> Hello Don, I tried to send a private message to you
RK> along with the
RK> last message you replied to. I guess it did not get through,
RK> anyhow, the
RK> CD's above are what I have left right now. If your still
RK> interested in
RK> trading for 4 1x9 70ns Simms,

I'm interested, but only have 1X3 70ns Simms.  I also thought I had a set of
1X9 70ns simms in the BBS computer, but they are 1X9 80ns simms, everything
else has to stay.

Please let me know if you are interested.  I certainly am, and would pay for
shipping both directions if it makes any difference.

Let me know, and I'll call you if you are stil interested.  Sorry I took so
long in replying, but I had a BBS system hard disk problem, and couldn't
process mail for 4 days.

Thanks,

.dn 
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From: LYNNDEL HUMPHREYS                      Number: 7436
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 11/20/93  6:58p
Subj: CATALOGUE                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would be interested ib the catalogue mentioned in your message. I also travel
(by-pass Chattanooga occasionally. Do you have an address I might request the
catalogue ?

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 7437
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/20/93  9:07p
Subj: CD's for sale! Cheap!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following CD Rom's for sale:

Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing v2.0       $17.50
                                        +$2.50 P&H

Sound Effects Library                  $10.00
                                        +$3.00 P&H

Reply here, or call the bellow phone number.  Please leave a message if you
call, I screen my calls if I am home!

Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: KEITH LOONEY                           Number: 7438
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 11/21/93 10:36a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Just to make sure, does this have the bam logo? Is it version 1 release 1?
If so, I will send a check upon reply.

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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 7439
  To: SHAWN FRIESEN                            Date: 11/20/93 11:23a
Subj: Ello...                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <14 Nov 93  18:11:00>, Shawn Friesen (1:342/47) writes:
 >Does anybody have/or has played the game "The 7th Guest"? If so, I'm
 >wondering how the scrolling speed of it is for your computer... If it is
 >a contineous patern ------------------ could you please give me the
 >stats of your computer because I'm looking to upgrade, and I want to
 >know what kinda hardware would give me that kind of scrolling
 >capabilities... My scrolling is like -   -   -   -   -   -  - Etc..
 >Maybe like half a second to scroll one screen? In otherwords you can see
 >it "pause"!
I have a 486-33DX Local Bus video with a Sony Single speed Cd-Rom drive. The
computer is definitely fast enough, it is the Cd-Rom. A set up like I have but
with a faster Cd-Rom drive would be excellent. You might even go 486-66, and
definitely Local Bus.

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 7440
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 11/21/93  9:52p
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

1435 N Tamarisk
Chandler, AZ.
85224
15.00 for Carmen Sandiego...CD
thanks


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From: DOUG THRUSH @ 924/1                    Number: 7441
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 11/20/93 11:27p
Subj: Cdrom Pricing-walnut crk                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Richard

     Would it be possible for you to send out a catalog for me to look 
at.  Im looking for some good CD's to play with in my new cd player!

PO Box 620327
Ft Rucker, Al 36362

THANKS!

OP.MSG @  *  Jb        * * *   F   *     * *b *      |   |   *     *     Q ' | 
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From: BILL ASHCRAFT                          Number: 7442
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 11/21/93 10:04p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom catalog                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JL> If you are looking for great prices on the latest CD-Roms, give us a 
 JL> call or post your address, and we will be glad to send you our latest 
 JL> price list.

Sounds good to me.  Please send me a catalog to:

        Bill Ashcraft
        1628-B Ash St.
        Fort Dix, NJ  08640


Thanks!
Bill


... DOS never says "EXCELLENT command or filename"...
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From: LYNNDEL HUMPHREYS                      Number: 7443
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 11/21/93 12:18p
Subj: CDI                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have been looking  at different types of machines that read CD. Will the CDI
that hook to TVs use the same CDs that you sell. My machine is a 386 SX bought
prior to the 486 coming. What percentage of CDs can I expect to not be
compatible?  Am I severely hampered to a point I should seriously consider
trashing a perfectly good motherboard that is less than 1 year old (first board
had to be replaced the first of this year so it is actually about a year old). 
  
All may enter this thread who wish......

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From: JOHN HOPKE                             Number: 7444
  To: BILL WOOD                                Date: 11/21/93 10:14p
Subj: Re: DOS 6.2                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hey, well I went out and bought the commercial one, but since I am ru
-> stacker, I don't really need 6.2, but maybe disk caching for the cd d
-> help things out a little.
-> Bill


Whoops Sorry Bill I forgot what we were talking about (I've been
answering lots of messages this weekend)

As far as the CD Cache in 6.2 I think it works pretty good, lot better
than without the cache, I can say that much.

BTW What version of Stacker are you using, do you know what kind of
compression ratio you are getting?  I'm contemplatig getting Stacker
over dblspace if I can get a little better compression out of it.

C-ya


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 7445
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 11/16/93  2:28p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> >  Some accursed "dupe checker" is nuking stuff it should NOT be nuking,

>          There is also a technical limit to the size of messages which
>'should' be carried on Fidonet.

 Which I'm nowhere near - SLMR internally splits messages over 150 lines, so
none of my outgoing should be over 6K (plus seen-by and path data, of
course!)....


 * SLMR 2.1a * My gift is my song, and - this one's for you....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 7446
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/18/93  1:36p
Subj: SHAREWARE CD TITLES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>    Again thanks Brice,  this is one of the few business' I've ever been
>involved that the competition gives assistance:)

 It's a lot easier to be competative if one can easily READ the competition's
catalogs....

 8-O

>BTW, if you'd not mind sending me your catalog

 Should show up a day or so after this message, if you read CFORSALE or
CDROM_SALE....

 8-)

> (1:157/479)

 Tell Jim Dunmyer I said "hi"....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Windows Error 99: Dead mouse in hard drive.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 7447
  To: TOM MILLER                               Date: 11/18/93  1:37p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1 O                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>do you mark the ones that are bbs ready?

Unfortunately no - I am working on a catalog that will include descriptions -
will upload it to the Mama Board when I finish it, though it's likely to be a
few HUNDRED K long by then....


 * SLMR 2.1a * As I walk down the street of an unsuspecting Human world

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 7448
  To: MICHAEL CROSSON                          Date: 11/18/93  1:38p
Subj: $25 QUOTE IN QUESTION                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Yes, that is quite possible...  At that time I was ordering Pier 3 from Mike
>Shannon who promised to sell it on this echo for $5 less than the lowest
>NightOwl 10 price advertised.  He later claimed that he never saw these $25
>dollar ads and charged me the $29 price.  I posted my original message so that
>he didn't think I was making up prices and get the $4 credit on my Visa
>account.  Mike didn't limit the offer to regular prices, specials, or
pre-order
>deals.

Then you should have quoted Ismael's $20 price at Mike....

 8-)


 * SLMR 2.1a * What a wonderful world it is that has girls in it!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 7449
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/18/93  2:20p
Subj: BUSTY BABES VOLUME II                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>She can be compared to Southern Beauties, Giffy Gold, PGG1, and Amateur
>Models---those are the apples to date.

 I would think that "Lovely Ladies II" and "Women of Venus" also fit into the
Apple catagory....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Hey Santa, how much for your list of naughty girls?

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 7450
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 11/18/93  2:23p
Subj: MAGAZINES 2 OF 3                        Refer: NONE
Read: 11/23/93  3:51p                       Private: No 

>DO NOT advertise anything but CD ROM products in this echo!

Minor point of clarification - are products like CD-ROM compatable cache
programs or CD holders (not caddies, holders like you would put caddies or
jewel cases into) on topic here?


 * SLMR 2.1a * Faith is NOT wanting to know what is true.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 7451
  To: DARREN MILLER                            Date: 11/18/93  2:32p
Subj: CDS WANTED                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>2) Reference CD

>   Encyclopedia, Dictionary, Thesaurus, Atlas, Bartlett's Familiar
>   Quotations...

 Mocrosoft Bookshelf '93, though I would recommend supplimenting with a "real"
Encyclopedia like Grolier's. Columbia Concise Encyclopedia, American Heritage
dictionary, Roget's II, Hammond Atlas, and Bartlett's are some of the included
materials.

>3) Shareware CD

>   I know there are many of these out there.  I have Phoenix 4.0, and
>   am sorta happy with it.  I'd like a CD that has a lot of useful and
>   varied utilities, and has a good search program.

 Simtel 20 doesn't have the search engine, but it DOES have the best assortment
of GOOD utilities I have seen anywhere. Not the "newest" stuff, more the "best
no matter HOW old it might happen to be" stuff.

>5) Clip-Art CD

>   General purpose clip art.  A sample book is a necessity for this one

 Corel Artshow series are the only ones I know of offhand that include a
"book".


 * SLMR 2.1a * I have Tagline Hunting Permit # IC1 U022

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 7452
  To: ANISH ACHARYA                            Date: 11/20/93  1:44p
Subj: Re: NiteOwl                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 14 Nov 93  12:05:01, I heard Anish Acharya shout to All:

AA> All,
AA> 
AA>        I am looking for a copy of NiteOwl 10 (or 11 if it's out).  I saw it
AA>        in this echo for $10 several times.  If anyone know's where I can ge
AA>        a copy for $10, or if that deal is still going on, let me know.  If
AA>        not, can someone please drop me their address and price so I can buy
AA>        a copy.  If you like you can netmail me (1:249/117).
AA> 
AA> Regards,

I haven't seen it for $10.00 But $28.00 will get you a copy...  Call Hershel 
Saylor at:  (317) 881-9391 or leave me your Number and I'll have him call you.


                             ......|<evin

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From: KRIS KEILHACK                          Number: 7453
  To: JOHN PRITCHARD                           Date: 11/18/93  8:15p
Subj: NEC 3x ?                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: NEC 3x ?
BY: John Pritchard on Sun Nov 14 1993 01:37 pm



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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 7454
  To: GARY HOFFERMAN                           Date: 11/20/93  8:24p
Subj: sellers wanted                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Also am interested in becoming a distributor of your products.

Please send info to:    HRB Computer Services,
                        100 York Blvd., Suite 550
                        Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada
                        L4B 1J8

                        (905) 882-4295 / FAX: (905) 882-2587
                        The 20/20 BBS:  (905) 882-5043


Best Regards,

Hayden.
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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 7455
  To: THOMAS VAN SCYOC                         Date: 11/20/93  8:28p
Subj: cd                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I am setting up a BBS, and I want to get a CD and the software to run
-> it on my BBS.  If you can sell me a good shareware cd and tell me
-> where to get software to run it, I will be very umm... forgot the
-> word, grateful or thankfull, or something like that.

For info contact:  HRB Computer Services
                   100 York Blvd., Suite 550
                   Richmond Hill, Ontario CANADA
                   L4B 1J8

                   (905) 882-4295 / FAX: (905) 882-2587


America $$$ go a lot further when buying from Canada.  We have over 700
titles -- lots to choose from for BBS operation!!!

Internet:  hayden.bradshaw@canrem.com
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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 7456
  To: ANISH ACHARYA                            Date: 11/20/93  8:45p
Subj: Peir 3                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->      What is Peir 3?  A shareware CD?  Does it come BBS ready?  How
-> does
->      it compare to Nite Owl?  What kind of price am I looking at?


Yes, it's a shareware disk.  I'm assuming from your tagline that you are
from the Ottawa area.  HRB Computer Services is a Canadian Distributor
of over 700 CD-ROM titles right across Canada.  For information call:
1-800-265-7081, and I can help you out.

Internet: hayden.bradshaw@canrem.com

Later...
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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 7457
  To: CHRIS WOOD                               Date: 11/20/93  8:43p
Subj: HOBBES OS/2 OCT 93                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Greetings, Chris:

Our supplier told me just on Friday (11/19/93) that they have it
available now.  So, I ordered some.  They will be in later this week.
Best price in Canada.  You can call us Toll-Free: 1-800-265-7081,
should you wish to order.


HRB Computer Services.
100 York Blvd., Suite 550
Richmond Hill, Ontario
L4B 1J8

(905) 882-4295 / FAX: (905) 882-2587
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From: LOU WILLIAMS                           Number: 7458
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/11/93  4:26p
Subj: Wanted DRM-600                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a New or GOOD used drive with cables, Caddy, and 16 bit
controler card.

If you know where I can get one leave message here stating location and price.
A phone number would also be welcome.

You can also reach me at FIDO address 1:343/700

Thanks

TTYL
Lou   <:-)


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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 7459
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/22/93 11:16a
Subj: Firearms Reference Cd!                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 


TM>MS>     We are pleased to announce the release of Firearms Reference 1993.
TM>MS>     This CD-ROM is intended to be both a reference and an entertaining
TM>MS>     diversion for the computer enthusiast who is interested in guns of
TM>MS>     all types.  What's more . . . it can be used on a BBS!


MS>There are FILES.BBS in each directory, which look pretty straightforward to
MS>me.  What exactly was the nature of the problem? 

The files you can d/l must have the program that comes with the CD to work 
right.
Say you take a gif off the CD and view it, Shows 1/2 a picture (with Cshow)
if you view it thought the CD program its fine.


MS>these to sysops who do have them up and running on various systems.

Can you give me some Phone numbers of these BBS's

Thanks,
Tom

Tom Miller
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From: CLINT ROBERSON                         Number: 7460
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/20/93  4:33a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOGS WANTED                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone boasting CD-ROM catalogs, especially BBS-ready file collections,
please place me on your mailing lists!
Clint Roberson
P. O. Box 2913
Boone, NC 28607


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From: MICHAEL MURPHY                         Number: 7461
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/22/93  4:20p
Subj: Night Owl's 10                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone have any information about the recall of NOPV10?  Are you (or 
anyone you know) excepting excanges for it?  I've also heard about NOVP10.1,
it that true?
Any help would be appreciated,
Michael

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From: LARRY HUEGELE                          Number: 7462
  To: CHET HART                                Date: 11/22/93 11:42a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CH> Most CD-ROMs do work just fine as a stand alone drive, but with
CH> the
CH> majority of titles taking advantage of the multimedia
CH> capabilities that
CH> 600 plus megabytes represents, it just makes sense to include
CH> the tools
CH> to unleash that power.

Fortunatly for me, the main thing I got a CD-ROM drive for was the storage
capacity.

CH> that the game functions in a real time mode. Many current
CH> CD-ROMs,
CH> and all readers before double speed are just to damn slow to
CH> work in
CH> real time. (There are other problems, but they appear to be
CH> involved
CH> with other hardware concerns.) Most of that information s
CH> gotten from
CH> reading the mail, I'm not much into games.

Thanks for your info.

TTYLaterz...


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7463
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/20/93 11:19a
Subj: NEW CD'S                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

((((((((((((((((((((((  N E W  R E L E A S E ' S )))))))))))))))))))))))

 Hobbe's OS/2 - 600+megs OCT - $20. - A Ton Of NEW Files !!! BBS Ready
 Simtel20 - 650+megs - Just Out - $20. - All New Shareware !! BBS Ready
 AmiNet - 600+megs June - $20. - Amiga Shareware CD - DOS/Amiga Support
 Space & Astronomy - 600+megs - $20. 1080 Images, Text Files, BBS Ready
 WordPerfect Comp - 400+megs - $16. Macros,Fonts,Drivers - +  BBS Ready
 Windows Comp - 626+megs - $16. Wav Files,Fonts,Tools,Utils + BBS Ready

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517  TECH/QUE 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7464
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/20/93 11:19a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            C R E A M     O F     T H E     C R O P    I I

OVER 654 MEGS New Shareware   4987 Files Dated '93'  Dup Checked
Virus Checked                 Files.BBS Support      Multi Line Discription
Mouse Support Menu            14Megs Prog Code       Plus MORE !!!
Only 200 prog Older Than April '93' - 10% Dup to NO10, Pier3, Software Gold

                               PRICE - $25.

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263   FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: WILLIAM CARTER                         Number: 7465
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/22/93 11:39p
Subj: Asp spectacular                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Joe.
Did you get my order in the mail for the "ASP SPECTACULAR"?
I sent the order in before I sent you E-Mail for your catalog.
I've gotten the catalog,but; have heard nothing about the CD..
Just wondering what was going on..
BTW.. My street address is 600 E. Sisson Rd. Not 606 E. Sisson Rd.
They know me out here in the sticks so the catalog made it here
even with the incorrect address..
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From: GEOFF REED                             Number: 7466
  To: TIM SCHOOLER                             Date: 11/17/93  7:39p
Subj: Encarta                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

<<***** On 11-15-93, Tim Schooler wrote to Geoff Reed: *****>>
TS>Odd. I have played mind maze extensively. No errors.
  
  What revision of the CD are you running? possibly you have a newer version
than I've used...
 
 
                                     
~~~
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From: DANIEL PARDUE                          Number: 7467
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/23/93 12:00a
Subj: sounds CD                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone carry the SB/Creative sounds disk?

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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 7468
  To: JEFF BAKALCHUCK                          Date: 11/23/93  1:15p
Subj: Flight 642 CDROM                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


Hi Jeff,
      I got my from Boris Osadciw his Number Is 1-800-243-0517. I think it
was about 30.00 nice CD.


Later
Tom

Tom Miller
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From: BYRON KROHN                            Number: 7469
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/21/93  5:35p
Subj: CD-ROM Drive For Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mitsumi LU002S CD-ROM drive, interface card, cables & software for sale.
I will guarantee the unit to work upon arrival. $70.00 including 
shipping. Drop me a note here, or contact me at:6712 Breezy Pass, 
Austin, TX 78749, (512) 288-4867.

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From: DAVID GROHOWSKI                        Number: 7470
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/24/93  3:01a
Subj: Cds wanted                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@ORIGIN :1:151/147                                                   N I am
looking for used game CDs.  I am a dealer and am willing to trade any hardware
or business software towards these CD's.  Please call because I don't read
msgs. here very often.



D'Vegro Computers
919-848-9969


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From: MARC BAILLIET                          Number: 7471
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/23/93  1:38a
Subj: CD-Roms For Sell                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                            ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
                            ³ Tape Back-Up Drives ³
                            ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ

Conner 250meg               $155
Conner 525meg               $625
Conner 2gig DAT             $1000
WangDAT 3100 2gig DAT       $1110
Exabyte 4200 2 gig DAT      $935  <---- SPECIAL TIL DEC '93!  *RECOMMENDED!
Hewlett Packard 2gig DAT    $1149
Hewlett Packard 4gig DAT    $1299
Conner 4gig DAT             $1320
Sony 4gig DDS2 DAT          $1320


                               ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
                               ³ CD-Rom Drives ³
                               ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ

Panasonic 562    320ms   64k buffer   300 kb/sec    SCSI/2     $299
Mitsumi FA001    330ms   64k buffer   300 kb/sec      N/A      $259
Teac             265ms   64k buffer   335 kb/sec    SCSI/2     $459
Toshiba          200ms  256k buffer   330 kb/sec    SCSI/2     $525
Pioneer 6 disk (SIMUTANEOUSLY)  300ms  612k buffer  SCSI/2 Ext.  $1350

Your options to get ahold of me:
       Marc

    Leave me E-Mail (SLOW)
    Call 713-894-0403 (After 6pm CST)
    Call 713-681-4777 (Day 9am-6pm)
    FAX  713-688-5636
 
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From: MARC BAILLIET                          Number: 7472
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/23/93  1:40a
Subj: My For Sell Post                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Sorry all, I must apoligize for my previous post.  I uploaded the post
and didn't realize that I couldn/t edit out the Tape Drives that I had in
there for sell as well.  Next time I guess I'll just have to do it manually.

                        Marc

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From: DAVID HEPKIN                           Number: 7473
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 11/24/93 10:27a
Subj: CD-Rom's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry to bother you, but I heard that you might still have some
DRM-600A's CD-Changers (New or Used).  Also, can you recommend a good
Desk Top Publishing/Clip Art CD?  And finally, do you have a catalog or
something that I could look at or download from a BBS?  Thanks...
                   David


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From: DAVID HEPKIN                           Number: 7474
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/24/93 10:29a
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

I was just wondering if you could recommend a good PCX Clipart/DeskTop
Publishing CD?  Also, do you know of a place or do you have any New/Used
DRM-600A's CD-Changers?  Thanks...
                   David Hepkin


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From: KAWAI WONG                             Number: 7475
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 11/24/93 11:58a
Subj: CD Rom Player                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Have 2 Hitachi CD Rom Players for sale with controller, cable and soft ware
-> $250 obo  for all!

   What model are they??  Are they SCSI drives??  Internal or External??  Speed
and thoughtput??  Thanx.
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From: STEPHEN NOBREGA                        Number: 7476
  To: MICHAEL MURPHY                           Date: 11/23/93  8:41p
Subj: CD-ROM for kids                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have seen a demo for Fatty Bear.  It's pretty neat.  It supports both
MM>VGA and Sound Blaster.  Anything, and everything, that you touch will "come
MM>alive" meaning that it will do something odd.  For example:  you click on on
MM>of the stars and it suddenly becomes a shooting star.  Sierra is selling
MM>Fatty Bear's Funpack for $34 for the CD-ROM.  If you know of any BBS's that
MM>have Night Owl's 10 CD on there, then you can d/l the demo program from the
MM>Demo's file area (over 1 meg!).
MM>--Michael

Thanks for the info, I'll keep an eye out for it!
See Ya :^)
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From: EDDIE IMPERIAL                         Number: 7477
  To: JIM LARSON                               Date: 11/23/93  7:51p
Subj: Re: Adult CD rom for tra                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have some adult CD stuff for trade!]

                        Eddie
                        713-437-0124
                        -=> Quoting Jim Larson to All <=-

 JL> I've got "All Beauties" adult CD Rom I would like to trade 
 JL> for another  adult CD-Rom. It's a little to tame for me.

 JL> -!- Maximus/2 2.01wb
 JL>  ! Origin: Madman_BBS  Chico_CA (1:119/88)



... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 7478
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 11/22/93  3:31p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 13 Nov 93  23:36:14, I heard Greg Sterling shout to Kevin Plummer:

GS> KEVIN,
GS> I;ll send out the $40.00 and the modem for BB 1 this week.  i will guarante
GS> the modem against DOA.  THANKS. Greg
GS> 
Okay...  once I receive it, i will then ship it out the same day...

                        .....|<evin

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 7479
  To: BILL ENGLISH                             Date: 11/23/93  6:45p
Subj: CD WANTED                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I seen a CD in the Multimedia Edition Called "MACMILLAN DICTIONARY FOR
>CHILDREN" Has anyone Got this Disk for sale?

 I've sold one or two of those....

>If So please let me know how much and where to send the Money to.

 I saw that you were FPO San Francisco in another message - IF the shipping to
an FPO address is comparable to what I would pay for shipping to a "regular"
San Francicso address (it used to be the same, back when I was in the Navy),
then see my ad in CFORSALE or CDROM_SALE for details of where to send
check/money order and pricing and such.


 * SLMR 2.1a * To discover proper respect for authority, ask any Cat....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 7480
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/23/93  6:48p
Subj: VIRUS! IN NIGHTOWL-10 CD                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

>I'm not saying that is the case with Night Owl's, but it does make one wonder.

 Considering that the version of Scan that was current AS OF THE DATE NO10
SHIPPED (much less the date it had to have been sent to the presser) did NOT
detect the pair of viruses that the version 108 Scan has found (108 WAS
released after NO10), why does it "make one wonder"?


 * SLMR 2.1a * I believe in an individual's freedom to be happy.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 7481
  To: JEFF CLAGGETT                            Date: 11/23/93  6:52p
Subj: MITSUMI 2X SPIN                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>The guy writing the driver just plane and simple did not have
>one of these drives available to use for developement.

The odds are good that a driver that supports the LU005 will work with the
LU002, just SLOWER....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Catifornia (n): The Sunshine State for Cats.

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 7482
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 11/24/93  3:40p
Subj: Re: ASIAN LADIES WARNING!!              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 22 Nov 93  10:51:00, I heard Ronald Leon shout to All:

RL> For anyone thinking of buying this disc, it contains disgusting nasty
RL> faggot queer gifs on it! I almost threw up.

Faggot Queer Meaning MEN ??  If so, why bother calling it Asian Ladies ???

  Don't make sense to me... Thanks for the Warning.


                        .....|<evin

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From: RONALD GOODWIN                         Number: 7483
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/24/93  1:39p
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: ASIAN LADIES WARNING!!
BY: Ronald Leon (1:3603/170)

For anyone thinking of buying this disc, it contains disgusting nasty
faggot queer gifs on it! I almost threw up.


 * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * America Held Hostage: Day 307 of the Socialist Takeover!



You must understand that when you purchase Adult Cd's, they are bound to have
disgusting pictures on them.  I had that CD online for about 3 months and it
received quit a few downloads, however I do not put up Gay pictures of men,
because I do not want those types of pictures on my BBS.  But most Adult Cd's
will have a few pictures that may offend even the Hard Core Pervert.


Ron

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From: THOMAS NUFER                           Number: 7484
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/14/93  7:28p
Subj: Re: VIRUS! in NightOwl-10 CD            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike! I was wondering if there is any reason why the BUSTY BABES V1#3 (that I
got from you) doesn't have a BUSTY BABES 2 directory? 1,3,4,5,and the rest are
there but not the 2 directory!

Also does your version of the ULTIMATE MOD collection have an S directory! Like
in all the songs who's name start with S,Mine doesn't!

Just wondering what was happening!

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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 7485
  To: ERIC HO                                  Date: 11/24/93 11:18p
Subj: Distributer wanted                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> New DR. CD-ROM release :
->
->   * Dr. Windows - Genuine       500+ MB of files for MS Windows
->                                 ATM, Business, Communication,
-> Database
->                                 Desktop, Programming, NT....
->                                 Dated in Nov. 1993.
->
->   * Dr. Games for DOS           Top 60 ready to play games on CD-ROM
->                                 Dated in Nov. 1993
->   * Dr. Games for Windows       150+ games for MS Windows, setp.exe
-> included
->                                 create program group & add icons.
->                                 Dated in Nov. 1993
->
->   * Dr. Shareware - Gold        620+ MB of files, the best collection
-> in
->                                 the market. 5000+ programs.
->                                 Dated in Nov. 1993
->
->   Call 408-748-9988 ARI for more detail & free flyers.

Greetings, Eric:  I would like more info one distributing these CDs in
Canada.  We are currently offering over 700 titles across the country,
please send me pricing, etc.

Hayden Bradshaw, GM / HRB Computer Services, Richmond Hill, Ontario

(905) 882-4295 / Fax: (905) 882-2587

Internet:  hayden.bradshaw@canrem.com
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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 7486
  To: THOMAS NUFER                             Date: 11/24/93 11:30p
Subj: Re: cd                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Please send me a copy of your catalog! And a local address if
-> possible , as my brother and I usually go to Toronto several times a
-> year!
->
->   Thomas W. Nufer
->   5135 Spiral
->   Kalamazoo , MI 49004

Thanks for your request, Thomas... Will do!!!

Later.
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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 7487
  To: ALL US CD DISTRIBUTORS                   Date: 11/24/93 11:49p
Subj: Canadian Distribution                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To all U.S. CD Distributors / Suppliers:

We are a Canadian company catering to the CD-ROM market here in Canada.
We currently distribute over 700 titles.  We are always looking for new
suppliers with better pricing.  So if you would like your products
marketed by a young aggressive company, please send us any info
regarding pricing, etc.

FAX:  (905) 882-2587 / Internet:  hayden.bradshaw@canrem.com

MAIL:

Hayden Bradshaw
HRB Computer Services
100 York Blvd., Suite 550
Richmond Hill, Ontario Canada
L4B 1J8

Tel: (905) 882-4295

P.S. We do not sell or distribute any XXX material at all.  This has
always been our policy.  Please send only material deemed suitable for
"family" usage.  Thank you.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7488
  To: SEAN CREIGH                              Date: 11/22/93 12:00p
Subj: ADULT CD'S                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well, Sean, yes, I'm the "Bob Jackson" (the one in Houston,TX) that does the CD
reviews. With respect to which ONE of the CDs you mentioned, I hesitate to
answer for two reasons: (1) I don't know what your tastes are - what I like,
you may not. (2) I'm not anxious to appear as if I'm endorsing one product over
the other based on unknown requirements. If you've read my reviews, you should
have a pretty good idea what I like and dislike about all three of those CDs.
If you haven't read the reviews, the best I can do for you is to suggest that
you do. Sorry, but I just don't feel comfortable answering your question more
directly.

The name of PGG1 is just that: "PGG1". That's all that's on the CD. I *THINK*
the letters stand for "Professional Graphics Group" or some such, but I couyld
be mistaken. 

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7489
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/23/93 11:53a
Subj: BBSS                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can anyone suggest 1+ BBs in the 703 area code that carry this echo?

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 7490
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 11/24/93  8:45a
Subj: ASIAN LADIES WARNING!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RL>For anyone thinking of buying this disc, it contains disgusting nasty
RL>faggot queer gifs on it! I almost threw up.

   But did you have any strong opinions about the disk?
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Apathy Error: Don't Bother Striking Any Key


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 7491
  To: HENRY ARIAS                              Date: 11/24/93  8:45a
Subj: CD For Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HA>                Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego     - $20.00
HA>                - complete with original box and all manuals

   I will offer $18 including shipping.
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler.


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From: RYAN MYERS                             Number: 7492
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/24/93  1:42a
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for BBS ready CD-ROMS?  Well, we have em'.  We also have many other
CD-ROM's too. Are most current catalog is freqable from 1:290/107 as
CDROMCAT.ZIP.


                           ---> CD-ROM Prices <---

 * All prices are quoted in U.S. dollars, with funds drawn on U.S. bank.
 * The prices listed do not include shipping and handling.
 * Catalog updated quarterly so Download or
 * FREQ (515-432-4472) CDROMCAT.ZIP
 * Visa/Mastercard/C.O.D./Check/M.O./Cash


Shareware and Public Domain - Most are BBS Ready!    
-------------------------------------------------    
* Means new title not included in previous catalog
* America's Premier Shareware                 $39    
Business Master, New Release!                 $29    
CD Winbox                                     $39    
Education Master, New Release!                $29    
Encyclopedia of Sound                         $29    
Game Master, New Release!                     $29    
Games 1993                                    $39    
HAM Radio 3.0                                 $29    
House of Games                                $29    
Monster Media #1 - 1993                       $49    
* MS-Windows collection                       $39    
Night Owl 8                                   $32
Night Owl 9, Latest in the series.            $39    
P.C. SIG Ver. 12                              $39    
Sci-Fi                                        $39    
* Shareware 1993                              $39      
Shareware Extravaganza - 4 Disc's             $59    
Shareware Studio #2                           $28    
Software Vault #2                             $28    
Software Vault #1 & #2 bundle deal            $39    
* So Much Shareware 3                         $39    
Sound Sensations                              $29    
Windoware                                     $29    
Window Master                                 $29    
Windows 1993                                  $39    
Women of Venus, Swimsuit Edition              $39    
                                                      
Closeout:
* Simtel-20 January 1992                      $15    


           DeskTop Publishing and Aids
-------------------------------------------------
Clip Art Golith                               $29    
ColorMagic                                    $39    
Encyclopedia of Clip Art                      $39    
* Fantazia Fonts                              $45    
Fonts #1                                      $35    
Photo C.D. - Kodak or Tempra                  $39    
Publisher's Dream Disk with manual            $39    
Publisher's Paradise with manual              $39    
* Publish It 2.0                              $39    
Too Many Typefonts                            $29    


Education and Information
-------------------------------------------------
* Animals-Zoo DOS or MPC                      $39    
Arthur's Teacher Trouble                      $39    
Barney Bear goes to School                    $39    
Barney Bear goes to Space                     $39    
Bibles and Religion                           $29    
* Dinosaur Adventures                         $39    
Education Master, New Release!                $29    
* Hacker Chronicles                           $39    
Mayo Clinic (Family Health Book)              $39    
Mixed up Mother Goose                         $39    
* Multimedia Animals Ency-MPC                 $49     
Our Solar System                              $29    
Pinacotheca - Multimedia                      $39    
Return to the Moon                            $49    
* Space Adventure                             $39    
* Space Shuttle                               $39    
* Time Table History/Science                  $39    



            Fantastic Games on CDROM!
-------------------------------------------------
* Kings Quest 5                               $29    
Mantis                                        $39    
* Seventh Guest (No box/tape)                 $65    
Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective          $39    
Space Quest 4                                 $29    
* Where In the World is Carmen                $39    
* Wing Commander/Ultima                       $39    


Encyclopedias, History, Atlas, Statistics, Direct.
-------------------------------------------------
* American Vista Atlas                        $49    
* Business Phone Directory with Zip+ (Set)    $49    
Dictionaries & Languages                      $29    
Groilers Encyclopedia 5.0,
(D.O.S.) NEW MULTIMEDIA                       $59    
Groilers Encyclopedia, 1.0,
Same as DOS 5.0 Version but for Windows.      $59    
* MacMillian Dictionairy for Children         $39    
National Parks                                $39    
Precision Mapping                             $99    
* Prophone 3 Disc Set                         $49    
Prophone Business Disc                        $49    
* Reference Library                           $39    
* U.S. Atlas With Automap                     $39    
U.S. History                                  $39    
U.S. / World Atlas                            $39    
* World Vista Atlas-MPC                       $49    


               ADULT CDROM DISC's
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---\
| All Adult CD-ROM Orders must be accompanied by |
| proof of age.  The legal age in most states is |
| 18  or  older and 21 or older in others.   You |
| must be  of the  legal age  to purchase  adult |
| material in  your state.   For this reason you |
| must order  by mail  and  send us  a copy of a |
| birth certificate or state I.D., no other form |
| of identification will be acceptable.          |
\-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---/
* Means new title not included in previous catalog
101 Positions 1 or 2 PC/MAC                   $59 ea 
After Dark Triology                           $59    
Amateur Models                                $49    
* American Girls  PC/MAC                      $55    
Best of Vivid Clips                           $59    
Busty Babes from Hot pics 3.0 Revised         $45    
* Deep Throat Movie                           $59    
Digital Dancing Interactive Movie DOS/MAC     $69    
Digital Dreams                                $39    
Dirty Talk Movie                              $59    
Doors of Passion Interactive Movie            $69    
Ecstasy from Hot Pics                         $49    
* Extreme Delight Movie                       $59    
Hidden Obsessions Movie                       $69    
* High Volume Nudes                           $49    
Hot Pix #2, #3, #4 or #5 Series               $29 ea 
Kama Sutra Movie                              $59    


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From: RYAN MYERS                             Number: 7493
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/24/93  1:42a
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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* Ledgends of Porn Movie                      $59    
My First Time (2 disc, full length 80 min.)   $59    
* Mystique of the Orient Movie                $59    
* New Wave Hookers Movie                      $59    
* Phone Sex .WAV files for Wiondows           $39    
Photo Gallery                                 $49    
Seedy ROM Movie Disc                          $59    
Seymore Butts Interactive Movie               $69    
Storm #1, #2 or #3                            $39 ea 
Smutware                                      $39    
Southern Beauties                             $59    
* Sweet Dreams                                $39    
* Total Fantasie                              $39    
X-Tream                                       $39    


Caddies
-------------------------------------------------
Single price with CDROM disc order          $6.50
Lots of 10 price                            $6.00
Lots of 10 price with CDROM disc order      $5.50





If you would like to buy any of these CD-ROMS, you can call the Oasis
CD-WareHouse BBS at (515) 432-4472 or you can Netmail me at 1:290/107.

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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 7494
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/24/93  9:13a
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices11/24/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To: 1:282/31 
 
Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM's 
from:  ComputerHelp 
       PO Box 385041 
       Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
       Ph:  (612) 890-4750 
       Fax:  (612) 894-9411 
 
(as of 11/24/93) 
 
SIMTEL MSDOS...................$13.00 
CICA MS Windows................$13.00 
Hobbes OS/2....................$13.00 
Aminet Amiga...................$13.00 
Garbo MSDOS/Mac................$13.00 
Sprite OS......................$13.00 
QRZ! Ham Radio.................$13.00 
ADA Programming................$18.50 
GIGA Games.....................$18.50 
La Coleccion...................$18.50 
Nova for NeXTs.................$18.50 
Project Gutenberg..............$18.50 
Source Code....................$18.50 
X11/GNU........................$18.50 
Info-Mac.......................$25.50 
CUG Library....................$23.50 
Linux..........................$23.50 
Libris Britannia...............$34.00 
Space and Astronomy............$18.50 
 
Shipping:  1-3 discs in one order = $4.50, 4-10 discs 
           in one order = $6.50. 
(MN residents add 6.5% sales tax). 
 
All prices subject to change without notice. 
 
"Yes Mildred, we do take personal cheques!" 
 
All orders by pre-payment, (you want cheap prices....); 
send to address above.  Call with questions. 
-  Richard Carter 
___ 
 * OFFLINE 1.56 

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From: STEPHEN LOCHMILLER                     Number: 7495
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/23/93  3:07p
Subj: NEW CD LIST PT 1                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 MS> ground shipping! ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p   
 MS> International orders welcomed. COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050        
 MS> INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101
 MS> "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions 
 MS> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892
 MS> (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50
 MS> ea pc over 5 
 MS> -!-
 MS> * SLMR 2.1a * Odo, is there any more jello in the fridge?  Odo? 
 MS> Odo?? 
 MS> -!- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
 MS>  ! Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR
 MS> (1:3407/101)


I am just beginning to set up a BBS and am going to have a total of
4 six pack CD Rom players for my users.  How can I tell from your list
which ones are ok to use on a BBS so I am not breaking any copywrite laws.

I also tune into the TBBS and BBS law topic areas and see alot of
copywrite law problems and do not want to hit the same situations with
my CD supplier when I get my BBS open to the public.

Thanks for your repsonse.


... Not tonight, dear.  I have a modem.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 7496
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 11/23/93  5:48p
Subj: So Much Modem Madness Cd                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SR> How much for sysops?

 
   We have So Much Modem Madness for $39.00 + $3 s/h 
   Sysops get $10 off, bringing price to $29.00! 
      UPS BLUE 2-day shipping only $5.75 extra 
 Visa/MasterCard/American Express/COD  (COD $4.50 xtra) 
 
             SPYR Inc 
     1-800-424-0234  Orders Only 
     (814) 864-4666  Questions/Orders 
     (814) 864-3993  FAX Orders 
   
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From: G. LARRY WEBB                          Number: 7497
  To: MODERATOR                                Date: 11/23/93  8:08a
Subj: LESS TALK/MORE $$$                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

There seems to be a lot of chat going on here that has nothing to do with
buying/selling CD-ROM stuff...could you step in and slap some wrists? Thank
you...

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 7498
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/23/93  7:23a
Subj: NEW CD LIST pt 1                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 > Monster Media 93 vol 2 (New!)....29.00

Mike, if this is your regular price for all future releases as well (plus sysop
shipping) can I get this sent on a regular basis as soon as you get them? You
have all my credit card info on file.

Chris

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From: RICK BAUER                             Number: 7499
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/24/93 10:40p
Subj: Busty Babes vol II                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I must say that this title is THE best adult disk i have purchased to date.

 I also want to say that i have just found my new source for my CD rom needs.

 
Rick

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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 7500
  To: ERIC HO                                  Date: 11/24/93  7:32p
Subj: Hobbes 10/93??                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >    * Dr. Windows - Genuine      500+ MB
 >    * Dr. Games for DOS          Top 60 best games
 >    * Dr. Games for Windows      150+ ready to play
 > games
 >    * Dr. Shareware - Gold       620+ MB

What are the prices

..Red..

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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 7501
  To: JONATHAN MCGIRR                          Date: 11/24/93  9:28a
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jonathan Mcgirr beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

JM>-> Brand new Mitsumi CD ROM drive, in the box with all docs and access
JM>->
JM>->         $150 plus 1/2 shipping.
JM>->
JM>-> Ron
JM>-> 813-978-0527
JM>
JM>Make it $150 including shipping, and it's sold!

Okay, you twisted my arm... OUCH! Send m.o. to me at:

13590 Fletcher Regency Drive
Tampa, FL  33613

I will send it ups ground the same day I get the m.o. The drive is
perfect!

Are you related to a "George Mcgirr" from NJ. Your tag didn't include your
location so I don't know where you are from. I went to high school with
him in Delran, NJ, class of 1980.



 * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * America Held Hostage: Day 307 of the Socialist Takeover!


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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 7502
  To: ROBERT MCELWEE                           Date: 11/24/93  7:35p
Subj: Hitachis                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RM>  Selling 8 Hitachi 3500 CD ROMS...they come in 2 sets of 4:
  >  4 cd roms, mini tower case, power supply, interface card, cables
  >  4 cd roms, mini tower case, power supply, interface card, cables


I take it that since you are still offering these for sale.  We do not
have a deal on the trade???


Name:     James Porter   City/ST:   St Pete, FL   Phone:  813-345-7297
FidoNet:  1:3603/60.0    Alternate: James.porter@mechanic.fidonet.org
Internet: James.Porter@p0.f60.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG
UUCP:     ...!myrddin!mechanic!60.0!James.Porter
 þ OLX 3.10 31-0461 þ I believe in The Divine Right of SysOps.


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 7503
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/24/93  6:49a
Subj: Optical Drive 4 Sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Tahiti II Read/Write Optical Drive For Sale:

New from Maxtor with their warranty
13.6 ms latency
35ms access time. This is not a slow R/W Optical
1 Gig or 650 Meg Capacity (Formatted)
2200 RPM
1.52 Megabyte Per Sec Transfer Rate
SCSI 1 and 2 Compliant
Motor Driven Cartridge Loading
Comes with new 650 Meg Cartridge
I can get additional cartridges for about
 1/2 of the prices you see in magazines
Automatically maps out defects
Full disconnect/reconnect arbitration
Macintosh Mode by Jumpers

Only have 1

Lists for $2685 in most magazines.

$1300.00 with cartridge

I'll pay for shipping overnight.

205-837-5053




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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 7504
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/24/93  6:49a
Subj: SCSI CDROM Drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM For Sale

156k transfer rate, 320ms access, 30 day guarantee, refurbished
unit, newest eprom installed, caddy and Toshiba Manual included.

Internal:  $185.00

or

External:  $205.00

205-837-5053




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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 7505
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/19/93 12:34a
Subj: Catalog of CD's w/desc!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Hello, Everyone.  At ComWorks, we have made a 44 page Catalog that 
names every CD we carry, and has a full description of each CD.  Due to 
the size of this Catalog, we request that you download it from the BBS. 
The file names are Catalog.zip for a Dos Text Catalog, and 
Catalogwp.zip for a Word Perfect Catalog.  Also, if you order a CD from 
us, we will mail a floppy disk with your order that will have the 44 
page Catalog on it.  If you would like a Catalog that names the CD and 
price only, just leave me your address and we will mail one to you. 
If you have any questions, just leave me a message.  Thank you for your 
time! 
                                               Mark
 
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! 
Online Credit Card Ordering Available! 
(205) 671-0092 - BBS 
(205) 793-4481 - Voice 
SysOp - Jim Lambert  CoSysOp - Mark Clardy
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 7506
  To: FRED KNOLL                               Date: 11/22/93  5:49p
Subj: OS/2 Box                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >I was wondering if you have anything for OS/2 ? 
 
Hello Fred.  Yes, we have just received our first shipment of a new 
shareware CD-Rom called OS/2 Box.  It has approximately 300 megs of 
OS/2 v2.X files.  It is a BBS ready disc and has a graphical user 
interface as well.  It was just released and is the latest OS/2 disc 
available.  The price is $29 plus $4 S&H.  Give us a call if interested. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Orders, File Lists, Catalogs 
 
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 7507
  To: LEE DETTER                               Date: 11/25/93  1:14a
Subj: CD-Rom Wanted!!!! Cheap!!!!!!           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Lee!

Tuesday November 23 1993, Lee Detter writes to All That Want To Sell A Cd-Rom:

 LD> I run Dragon Mountain and I have a CD-Rom on-line now! I would realy like
 LD> to see another one on my board though!! I well be runing RA some time
 LD> around Xmas so I should have the room for it! It does not have to be
 LD> blazing fast but it would be nice! I will go from around 100 to 160 bucks!
 LD> No more!!! I am REALY not in a good spot to be trying to buy a CD-Rom but
 LD> I have been geting ALOT of help from my users! With out them the 1st
 LD> CD-Rom would not be there so PLEASE give me your lowest price!!! THANKS A
 LD> MILL!!!

Have two that hook up on one card, will sell it all for $250


Pat

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From: MIKE MICHLIK                           Number: 7508
  To: BOBBY COOPER                             Date: 11/24/93  1:21a
Subj: Aldus Photostyler 2.0                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BC>  Retails for $399 (special promo now over)
BC>  Will sell for $300
BC>  CD-Rom Special Edition version 2.0
BC>  Never opened CD.

What's included in this upgrade that 1.0 doesn't have?


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From: JEAN-LOUIS BONTRONT                    Number: 7509
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/24/93  9:34a
Subj: Educational shareware CD                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Is there any such thing as a CD with _mostly_ educational shareware on
it?  I run an educational oriented BBS.  I know that most CD have an
educational shareware section.  I'm looking for one that concentrates on
this.  Any thoughts?

JLB

... TThheerree''ss aann EEcchhoo iinn hheerree.
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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 7510
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 11/07/93 12:59p
Subj: Busty Babes Volume II                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <11-02-93 16:45> Mark Walker wrote:

MW>  In a message of <31 Oct 93  10:04:00>, David Vangelder (1:363/6969)
MW>  writes:
MW>
MW>   >                I for one do not want to produce a disc
MW>   >                with 182M of images for a selling price
MW>   >                of even $ 10.00 !  I do not HYPE or even
MW>   >                announce a disc we are going to produce
MW>   >                before it is to be released. I can assure
MW>   >                you, the buying public, that our discs
MW>   >                will alway be packed with at least 650+
MW>   >                Megs of images, unless the packaging
MW>   >                indicates otherwise!
MW>  I am not going to take sides on this, there are pluses and minuses to
MW>  Southern  Beauties and Busty Babes II. I personally like them both. I
MW>  indicated to Lee  what I thought of her disk. I believe I indicated
MW>  in another post that some of  the .gif files on Southern Beauties
MW>  were slightly grainy (however the .tif  image were not). Go
MW>  figure...For the most part the women on both disks were  beautiful
MW>  and that is what matters most to me, the second would be is it
MW>  licensed for BBS use or not. I am glad to see you are going to make
MW>  your next  disk available for use on a BBS. Thanks for your time and
MW>  eyes.

Thank you for your post. I am sorry for the delay
in responding to you, but my computer was down as
I was waiting for a new SCSI caching controller to
come in.

It is not a matter of taking sides, as I did not
intend my post to be viewed as an argument between
Lee and myself.  If this was the case, I would have
addressed my post to Lee. I did not appreciate the
"Van Gelderized" comment in a previous post from
Lee and felt it needed to be cleared up.

There are always pluses and minuses to every disc and
Southern Beauties is no exception.  We did the best we
could on that disc and hope to always improve with
the production of each disc (helped a great deal by
the reviews that Bob Jackson presents). Regarding the
scans on Southern Beauties, there are some that are
slightly grainy, but the great majority are sharp as
indicated in Bob's review and from the feedback we
receive from our customers.

As I said in my post, the majority of the scans on
Busty Babes II were very sharp.  I understand that
the Fortune 500 company that did the scans was Kodak
so I am not surprised.  I do each and every scan
myself while Blaine does the color corrections, bright-
ness and contrast adjustments, and pastes in our
copyright information.  Where Kodak had a better scanner,
the personal attention to detail in scanning, cropping and
the things that Blaine is responsible for seemed to me to
be lacking.

As I also indicated in my post, we have been using a new
36 bit scanner (instead of the 24 bit scanner used on
Southern Beauties), and I think you will find a noticable
improvement on all the scans on our upcoming disc. This
is fact, not hype.

I am hopeful that the photographers will agree to allow
our next disc to be able to be used on BBSs and will
certainly let you know if and when that is the case!

Again, my previous post was presented as my view of a
disc that was a gross misrepresentation based on the
prerelease hype, the fact that those who had previously
purchased Busty Babes Vol 1 R1, R2, and/or R3 would not
be receiving a disc containing large breasted women,
AND the information, lack of information or misinformation)
on the backcover:

        1.) click on 1000 of my friends
        2.) did not indicate disc contained a total of 420M
        3.) did not indicate disc only had 182M of images


I would have posted the same thing regarding any other disc
that I consider to be other than what it is represented to
be.  
 
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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 7511
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/12/93 11:04a
Subj: RESPONSE TO MESSAGES                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am out of town through the end of next week and will respond to all message
to me or about me upon my return.

                David  
 
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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 7512
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/24/93 11:11a
Subj: 'R' Rated CD-ROM                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   ********************** Accepting Pre Orders ******************************

                             Exotic Visions 
                          
                                presents

                      Strippers of the USA (c) 1993

An 'R' rated CD-ROM that showcases topless dancing clubs from all over the
US. Contains thousands of GIFs containing some of the most beautiful women 
ever seen.  Comes with quicktime movies of actual strip teases in actual 
clubs.  Who says you can't enjoy a night out with the guys right
in your own home.   

The CD will retail for $59.95, but by reserving your copy early you will 
receive this collection for $38.95. 

To reserve your copy leave your name and address on this echo or 
call (915)673-1911.  

           This CD will begin shipping early 1st quarter 1994. 

           Dealer Inquires welcome.  

We are also working on a CD-ROM for all you ladies out there featuring some
of the hottest male strippers.  

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From: IRA WILSKER                            Number: 7513
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/24/93 10:48p
Subj: Magazine Rack later than                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry for a possibly repetitive message, but earlier this year I asked
the vendors in the conference if there was any newer version of 
MAGAZINE RACK than the 1990 edition I have had for almost 2 years.

It is excellent for my kids' school projects, but it is getting out of date.

I am extremely interested in a newer version if it exits, or some
similar competitive product.  I am looking for one with numerous
magazines on it, not just the "Time" etc. series.

Thanks!
___
 X QMPro 1.51 X Crime, Sex, Alcohol, Drugs. BOY...I love Congress!

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From: TIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 7514
  To: GEOFF REED                               Date: 11/24/93 10:17a
Subj: Encarta                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TS>>Odd. I have played mind maze extensively. No errors.
 GR>   
 GR> What revision of the CD are you running? possibly you have 
 GR> a newer version than I've used...



The only number I could find on it was "Disc Assy. 196-052-002". I did order it
directly from Microsoft.



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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7515
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 11/25/93  1:29a
Subj: Dandy Don Meredith?                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>MS>Even if they do, they'll still have to overcome the megabuck$ lawsuit
JL>  >they're facing.  I think I hear Don Meredith warming up......<g>  (Let
JL>  >me know if you got that last one.  It'll give me an idea of your age)  8)

JL>No, I guess I am still a youngster at 33! <G>  Does it still look the

Whaaaa?  Didn't you ever watch Monday Night Football in the old days, when
Don would start warming up for his rendition of "Turn out the lights, the
party's over...", when a team was about to lose.

JL>Night Owl will lose the amount we discussed earlier?  I'm glad I am not
JL>in their shoes!

You and me both.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7516
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/25/93  1:29a
Subj: NEW WINDOWS & GAMES CD'S                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #2:  TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES   |
         |________________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

 WINDOWS COLLECTION * A Windows-only CD with ALL '93 file dates! BBS....$26
 GAMES COLLECTION * A pure-games CD featuring 90% '93 file dates! BBS...$26
>CD-ROM OF CD-ROMS * Reviews & stats on over 4000 CD titles! New for 93.$29
 HORROR & SCI-FI FILMS * Full details of over 2300 films w/ 100s of pix.$43
 BUSTY BABES VOL 2 * The FIRST serious "soft" adult CD for BBS!.........$29

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7517
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/25/93  1:29a
Subj: CD-ROM SALE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #4:  CD-ROM LIQUIDATION!   |
         |________________________________________________________|

            All sales are final - Sale limited to stock on hand!

Mega Clipart........$19   Powerpak Gold 3.0...$13   Wrath of the Demon..$27
World Vision 3-Pak..$37   Business Phonebk 91.$13   Bookshelf 1992......$35
Mac Shareware.......$17   Precision Mapping...$68   Mac M/M Space.......$29
Sporting News.......$22   DTPro...............$24   Game Pack 2.........$22
Shareware Direct.....$9   Phoenix 4.0.........$17   Jedi Collection.....$37
Compton's Fam Ency..$19   Clipart Galore......$22   Reel Clips..........$24
Library of Future...$37   Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$21   Arizona Images......$19
Top 2000 Shareware..$18   Software Vault 1....$15   CD Powerbox.........$13
King's Quest V......$17   Hobbes OS/2 1992....$10   Sights & Sounds.....$21
K-Tracks Sound F/X..$17   Sounds for Windows..$15   Canadian Shareware..$17

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 7518
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 11/24/93  8:50p
Subj: Os2box report.                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Jim!

Wednesday November 17 1993 21:08, Jim Lambert wrote to Dave Perkovich:

 JL> Hey, this is a learning experience for us all.  As long as you, as a
 JL> producer, listen to the customers, you are headed in the right
 JL> direction.  The items that my customers have shown concern over are:

 JL> 1. Virus Free (Unlike Night Owl 10)

Minor clarification here... should read:

    1.  Virus Free (Unlike Night Owl ANYTHING)

Later,

Dave

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7519
  To: ALAN ORNDORFF                            Date: 11/24/93  1:05a
Subj: Re: Hobbes 10/93??                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>>Chris, as of this date the Hobbes OS/2 disk has not been released yet.

BO>>There has been no word yet as to when it will be out.

BO>>When it does come out, I'am sure you'll see a ton of messages posted
  >>saying they have the cd in stock. I'am sure the wait will be worth it
  >>as I have yet to see any cd out that is any good in the OS/2 department,
  >>other than one put out by "Profit Press" almost a year ago.

>>    Bought it at Comdex on opening day. $29

Great, we now have it in stock and it's priced at $20.

Hope your enjoying your copy !!

Boris Osadciw

... I married the Mail Lady!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7520
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/24/93  1:05a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            C R E A M     O F     T H E     C R O P    I I

OVER 654 MEGS New Shareware   4987 Files Dated '93'  Dup Checked
Virus Checked                 Files.BBS Support      Multi Line Discription
Mouse Support Menu            14Megs Prog Code       Plus MORE !!!
Only 200 prog Older Than April '93' - 10% Dup to NO10, Pier3, Software Gold

                               PRICE - $25.

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263   FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Now 100% QWK Compatible! More bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7521
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/24/93  1:05a
Subj: NEW CD'S                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

((((((((((((((((((((((  N E W  R E L E A S E ' S )))))))))))))))))))))))

 Hobbe's OS/2 - 600+megs OCT - $20. - A Ton Of NEW Files !!! BBS Ready
 Simtel20 - 650+megs - Just Out - $20. - All New Shareware !! BBS Ready
 AmiNet - 600+megs June - $20. - Amiga Shareware CD - DOS/Amiga Support
 Space & Astronomy - 600+megs - $20. 1080 Images, Text Files, BBS Ready
 WordPerfect Comp - 400+megs - $16. Macros,Fonts,Drivers - +  BBS Ready
 Windows Comp - 626+megs - $16. Wav Files,Fonts,Tools,Utils + BBS Ready

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517  TECH/QUE 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7522
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/24/93  1:05a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00  Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare   - $379.00  NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $249.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $739.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1169.  -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms w/ctl   - $369.00  Texel Ext 245ms Bare  - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int 3021 Bare  Dr - $189.00  Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $389.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SCSI

 Groilers Encyc DOS v6.  $50.          ALL ChestNuts CD's $10.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

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From: ROD WILEY                              Number: 7523
  To: JOHN HOPKE                               Date: 11/24/93  6:50a
Subj: RE: Re: DOS 6.2                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JH> Whoops Sorry Bill I forgot what we were talking about (I've been
JH> answering lots of messages this weekend)
JH> As far as the CD Cache in 6.2 I think it works pretty good, lot better
JH> than without the cache, I can say that much.
JH> BTW What version of Stacker are you using, do you know what kind of
JH> compression ratio you are getting?  I'm contemplatig getting Stacker
JH> over dblspace if I can get a little better compression out of it.
JH> C-ya

Stacker will get you a better compression ratio. Dos 6.0, 6.2 are notwhat
they are cracked up to be. Besides if you want to take off the dos compression 
system it is a major headache. Unlike Stacker, at least with the Stacker you
simply tell it to uninstall and it takes it from there.

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7524
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/25/93  3:00a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            C R E A M     O F     T H E     C R O P    I I

OVER 654 MEGS New Shareware   4987 Files Dated '93'  Dup Checked
Virus Checked                 Files.BBS Support      Multi Line Discription
Mouse Support Menu            14Megs Prog Code       Plus MORE !!!
Only 200 prog Older Than April '93' - 10% Dup to NO10, Pier3, Software Gold

                               PRICE - $25.

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263   FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7525
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/25/93  3:00a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00  Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare   - $379.00  NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $249.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $739.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1169.  -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms w/ctl   - $369.00  Texel Ext 245ms Bare  - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int 3021 Bare  Dr - $189.00  Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $389.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SCSI

 Groilers Encyc DOS v6.  $50.          ALL ChestNuts CD's $10.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Oh never mind!
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From: BOB BROCK                              Number: 7526
  To: RYAN MYERS                               Date: 11/24/93  6:13p
Subj: Re: NEC MODEL 36 Readers                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RM> Still have any of these drives?  ..If so, I am very intrested in one or two
RM> them. Netmail me back if  you still have them, at 1:290/107.   What were th
RM> used for, and how long?
RM> 
RM> --- Renegade v07-17 Beta
RM>  * Origin: Oasis in the Digital Desert (1:290/107)
It says USED!!!!! I have seen NEW for this price and less Shop Around!!!!

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From: JIM FOWLER                             Number: 7527
  To: WILLIAM WRIGHT                           Date: 11/25/93  2:42a
Subj: CD ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting William Wright to Robert Moore <=-

 WW> The lowest price I've seen a NEW Double Speed CD-ROM for is $227. Its
 WW> the Mitsumi, and it has 250 MS. So If you could afford 125 dollars
 WW> more, then go for it.

 WW> I saw and bought the drive at Best Buy.

 Zeos International is currently selling the new Mitsumi double
 speed (FX001D) drive for $199. Their number is 1-800-423-5891.



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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7528
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/25/93  8:00a
Subj: REVIEW CDS                              Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Yo, Mike! Did you get my message requesting three CDs for review? Are you going
to be able to continue to do this? If not, that's certainly OK, just let me
know, please. Thanks.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7529
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/25/93  9:07a
Subj: REVIEW CDS                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

By now you should've received my return package and floppie. When can I expect
the next shipment? BTW: Did you ever get the "almanac" CD in?

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From: RON YOUNG                              Number: 7530
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 11/23/93  3:45p
Subj: ASIAN LADIES WARNING!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message dated 22-Nov-93 10:51:00, Ronald Leon wrote:

 RL> For anyone thinking of buying this disc, it contains disgusting nasty
 RL> faggot queer gifs on it! I almost threw up.

I take it you don't like this CD.  To avoid further sickness I will offer you
$25.00 for this CD, shipped.

If interested leave me an address and I will send you payment.

Ron Young

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7531
  To: WILLIAM CARTER                           Date: 11/25/93 11:13a
Subj: Asp spectacular                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Hi Joe.
 > Did you get my order in the mail for the "ASP SPECTACULAR"?
 > I sent the order in before I sent you E-Mail for your catalog.
 > I've gotten the catalog,but; have heard nothing about the CD..
 > Just wondering what was going on..
 > BTW.. My street address is 600 E. Sisson Rd. Not 606 E. Sisson Rd.
 > They know me out here in the sticks so the catalog made it here
 > even with the incorrect address..

    The order was shipped to the incorrect address the other day.  Hopefully
you will receive it also, If not I'll send it again at our expense.  The error
has been corrected in our database, for futher reference.

    It's not uncommon to receive our catalog before an order.  I have the
catalogs set up on my desk so all I have to do is address them.  The orders I
pass on to someone else to process, which frees my time to answer requests,
telephone calls, etc...

Regards,
Joe

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7532
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/25/93 12:53p
Subj: ===Cream of the Crop Bundle===          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

              >>> CREAM OF THE CROP BUNDLE of versions 1 & 2 <<<
   We are offering The Cream of the Crop bundle for only $40.00 and will
match any advertised price on single versions:-)  We are offering a 30 day
100% money back guarantee and have BBS READY setups for almost any BBS.
BBS setups for boths disc's are available from our SUPPORT BBS.  To order
contact: Joe Rinehart, P.O.Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240-0001, voice:216.296.9831
We also DO NOT markup shipping cost unlike most dealers. $2.90 Priorty Mail
Both versions are on-line for review at the Blue Parrot CD-ROM SUPPORT BBS.
Very low duplication rate to night owl or pier disc for additional insurance
IN STOCK READY FOR SHIPPING!  10% SYSOP DISCOUNT!  THIS BUNDLE IS GREAT!

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7533
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/25/93 11:37a
Subj: ===Cream of the Crop II===              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>  *** TERRY BLOUNT'S NEW BBS READY NOVEMBER RELEASE CREAM OF THE CROP II***
>                 SYSOPS PRICE $25.50 / OUR USER FEE $28.50
     We thought you'd be interested in a directory structure of this new
release to assist in your decision to buy this GUARANTEED DISC from
config.sys, Inc. which can be downloaded or FReq from 1:157/479@fido or we
will send this at our expense along with our entire CDLIST, if you just ask:-)
     The staff of config.sys, Inc.  believes this to be the greatest BBS
READY disc ever -- The Greatest Thing Since "Mike's Place" Mama Houk's Peanut
Butter Pie!  To order, either meet us at "Mike's Place" (intersection of Ohio
SR's 43 & 261), or call config.sys, Inc. at +01 (216) 296.9831

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From: JOHN PIERCE                            Number: 7534
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 11/25/93 11:10a
Subj: Cd-Rom Bb For Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I will offer you $24 shipped for Busty Babes cd.
-> SCott raley
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If you want to pay the shipping, it's your's!

John
@1:379/7


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From: JEFF HUGHES                            Number: 7535
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/25/93  1:15p
Subj: To: Matt Bedtelyon...                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Re: NEC MODEL 36 Readers
BY: Ryan Myers (1:290/107)

>MB>                    ******************************
>MB>                   *          MEG*A*BITE          *
>MB>                   *     CD-ROM NEWSFLASH #11     *
>MB>                    ******************************
>MB> I have a large quanity of NICE NEC Model 36 (used) units for sale.
>MB> I have priced the units for quick sale because of the number we have
>MB> available. Here are the specs for these top quality NEC drives:
>MB> 
>MB> True SCSI units
>MB> External desktop units
>MB> 450 msec access time
>MB> 150 ksec transfer rate
>MB> IBM, PC or MAC compatiable
>MB> 
>MB>      Now only ......................................$125.00ea

     I'm interested!  Please send me some more info, like what kind of
controller card it will require.

     Jeff

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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 7536
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/25/93  3:31p
Subj: Encarta for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Microsoft's Encarta encyclopedia CD for sale.  This CD is chock full of
articles, pictures and sound.  It requires Windows to run and a sound card for
the sound.  I am asking $110 delivered....if interested, please e-mail me here
or call my number in the tagline....thanks !!
 
... Voice: 919-870-6926 (eves/weekends)
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 7537
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 11/25/93  4:04p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM BB for Sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <11-23-93 21:48> Max Green wrote:

MG>>   of BB-II-1 and have been delighted with it.

Glad you liked it ! Just wait until 1994....<phew> adrenaline rush.

MG>> Are you distributors going to get a chance to promote and
MG>> take orders for advanced sales?  Am I in the right line yet?

Of course the distribs will know what I am up to in Jan <grin>--Already getting
the inquiries--We pick up the slides next week, and I will say that those that
like the Easyrider type magazines with the beautiful babes in sexy outfits as
well as nude on those Harley motorcycles--Will love the release of "Women on
Wheels", the first disc with beautiful women and high powered machines.

You will recognize these images from the Harley Davidson calenders as well, and
there will be several volumns to this series--Every one of these images have
been published in the girly/biker type magazines. Nothing amatuer about this
production. Then we will be releasing the famous L.A. Raiderettes, which also
has a video and calender out in December, for a Jan release as well, barring no
"Murphy" law problems.

We have 10 projects lined up for 1994--and we have migrated away from the
hardcore, and will specialize in famous collections instead, so that we can get
our products in the retail stores/malls etc--

Thanks for asking !

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7538
  To: WILLIAM CARTER                           Date: 11/25/93 12:56a
Subj: Asp spectacular                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    The order was received & mailed before I read this message.  I'm posting
this from the publishers BBS of so much shareware, so the tagline will be
wrong.  If the order is returned dur to the wrong address, I'll resend it. 
Thanks for keeping me posted. 
   Regards, 
   Joe Rinehart
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From: JAMES DESOTELLE                        Number: 7539
  To: WILLIAM DUPREE                           Date: 11/24/93  7:22p
Subj: Nec cd-rom 3xi for sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WD>JD<<<For Sale Brand New NEC CD-rom 3x internal JD<<<Included:
WD>  <<<All Hook up equipment
WD>  <<<PRO AUDIO SPECTREM SOUND CARD, with Connection cord to hear audio CD's
WD>  <<<from rear! (Most systems do not come with this cord)
WD>  <<<Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia for Windows
WD>  <<<Microsoft Cenemania

WD>JD<<<Price: $610 Includes shipping

WD>JD<<<Please call me if interested at (701)-780-0930.

WD>why are you selling it & which pro audio spectrum is it?

Here is the story:  I originally had the NEC 84-1, but something
happened to it, so they sent me the new 3x-i since the 84-1 was already
outdated.  Well in the time that it took to get here I decided to sell
my desktop and move to a Laptop (My business keeps me going it was more
logical)  The sound card is the PRO AUDIO SPECTREM 16, this card is only
3 months old!  If interested give me a call at 701-780-0930, I will be
unable to get my mail during the switch from desktop to laptop~
---
 þ OLX 2.2 þ MSI - Bringing it all together in '92

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From: ANDREW ADAMS                           Number: 7540
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 11/24/93  2:18p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would be Interested in receiving this catalog


Please sen one to:







Andrew Adams
RR#1 Beaverton, Ont.
LOK1AO






Later!

      Andrew

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From: BOB KISH                               Number: 7541
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 11/25/93 10:32a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send a catalog to

ROBERT J. KISH
6765 N. Headley
TUCSON, AZ 85746-6519

THANX


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 7542
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 11/25/93  7:01a
Subj: My disc                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Blaine, well it is Thanksgiving and still no disc.  You received my disc
around three weeks ago, but yours has not arrived.  To say I am
disappointed and somewhat pieved is an understatement.  Please send the
disc as we agreed or return the one I sent you! ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!

Randy Neuner

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From: RONALD GREEN                           Number: 7543
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/26/93  4:58a
Subj: Re: ***CD-ROM Catalog offer***          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    Send me one!  Thanks.  BTW do you know where I might locate CD data disks 
that contain genealogical info such as census, death records, ect?
    Ronald Green  399 Westmeade Dr.  Gretna, LA  70056

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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 7544
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 11/25/93 11:41a
Subj: ADULT CD'S                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Bob,

 > The name of PGG1 is just that: "PGG1". That's all that's on the CD. I
 > *THINK* the letters stand for "Professional Graphics Group" or some
 > such, but I couyld be mistaken.

Without any disrespect intended and only for fun.......

Perfectly Gorgeous Girls

Pretty Good Grope

Probably Gone GoogleEyed

Pregnant Graphic Girls

Probably Grotesue Geeks

Pretentious Gruesome Garbage

Profoundly Grand Gigabyte


                                                   Cheers,

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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 7545
  To: G. LARRY WEBB                            Date: 11/25/93 11:43a
Subj: LESS TALK/MORE $$$                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi G.Larry,

 > There seems to be a lot of chat going on here that has nothing to do
 > with buying/selling CD-ROM stuff...could you step in and slap some
 > wrists? Thank you...

          Including THAT message.......Whoops,


                                                   Cheers,

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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 7546
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 11/26/93  7:56a
Subj: ASIAN LADIES WARNING!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RL> For anyone thinking of buying this disc, it contains disgusting
 RL> nasty faggot queer gifs on it! I almost threw up.

  Thanks for the great review.  Where/how can I purchase your review
  copy.  Not interested in the least in the "foggot queer" portion of
  this CD, but I am sure that there is much which you are unable to
  stomach and will be adequate for my collection.  So lets see what
  you are asking for this "disgusting/nasty/faggot/gueer" CD.

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 7547
  To: DAVID GROHOWSKI                          Date: 11/25/93 12:31p
Subj: Cds wanted                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DG>looking for used game CDs.  I am a dealer and am willing to trade any hardwa
DG>or business software towards these CD's.  Please call because I don't read
DG>msgs. here very often.

CD-ROMS for Sale

Q&A 4.0 from Symantec ..........................  $39
CD-ROM Premier .................................  $14
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $19
Tool works US Atlas and Auto map .................  $24
Tool works World Atlas ..........................  $24
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $69
PC Sign Library 8th edition .....................  $10
PC Sign Library 9th edition .....................  $12
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $19

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ PANTIES:  Next to the best thing in the world!


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From: MARK DETROIA                           Number: 7548
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/25/93 10:19p
Subj: Cd-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in buying a CD-ROM, if anyone has one used or new that would
like to sell one, please leave message here.


Mark
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From: JIM NEUMILLER                          Number: 7549
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/19/93  5:31p
Subj: Re: Changing times...                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Lee:

From the lady that brings us Busty Babes....are you one yourself?  Sorry to 
be "off topic", but I gotta know!!!

Jim


... Bigger is almost always better!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7550
  To: DENNIS WRIGHT                            Date: 11/26/93 10:49a
Subj: 'R' RATED CD-ROM                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dennis Wright was saying to All on the subject of 'r' rated cd-rom ...

 DW> Strippers of the USA (c) 1993

 DW> An 'R' rated CD-ROM that showcases topless dancing clubs from all over
 DW> the US. Contains thousands of GIFs containing some of the most
 DW> beautiful women  ever seen.  Comes with quicktime movies of actual
 DW> strip teases in actual  clubs.  Who says you can't enjoy a night out
 DW> with the guys right in your own home.

I'd like to review this one for you if you're willing. Let me know.

... Where am I going? And why am I in this handbasket?
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From: J MERTZ                                Number: 7551
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 11/21/93 10:17a
Subj: Amatuer Models                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SR>I have an AMATUER MODELS cd for sale, full of nude amatuer model
SR>gifs.

SR>Yours for $29 shipped via 2nd day mail

SR>Please reply ASAP

SR>Scott Raley


SR>Or you can FREQ me at 1:2612/104 (FIDO)
SR>___
SR> X MegaMail 2.10 #0:


Still have it?  I would take it for $29 if it's still available.  ship
cod? or direct and I send a check?

            Jack
  SLMR 2.0  My reality check just bounced.
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From: DARREN MILLER                          Number: 7552
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/23/93 11:05p
Subj: CD titles wanted to buy                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for the following CDs.  I am interested in replies both by
people who use and like their CDs, and by dealers with killer prices.
And if you happen to be both, well....

1) Bible CD

   Looking for a CD containing mulitiple translations of the Bible, 
   Strong's numbers, Thayer's Greek Lexicon, Hebrew-Aramaic-English 
   Lexicon, "Treasury of Scripture Knowledge", Thompson Chain Topics, 
   Scofield Notes, and Maps, and other commentaries are all desirable
   features.

   Must-have features are a search program (DOS or Windows ok... if
   both, so much the better!), A Note-taking feature.  Ability to
   side-by-side comparison of verses in different translations.

2) Reference CD

   Encyclopedia, Dictionary, Thesaurus, Atlas, Bartlett's Familiar
   Quotations...

3) Shareware CD

   I know there are many of these out there.  I have Phoenix 4.0, and 
   am sorta happy with it.  I'd like a CD that has a lot of useful and
   varied utilities, and has a good search program.  The use of 
   FILE_ID.DIZs and/or other lengthy descriptions of each file is a 
   definite plus.  I would prefer one without too much in the way of
   fonts and graphics.  BBS-readiness is a plus.  I *hate* PC-SIG!

4) Font CD

   A CD filled with installed fonts, preferably TrueType and Adobes.  A 
   good searcher/browser/viewer that doesn't require installation is a
   necessary feature, and a sample book is a plus.

5) Clip-Art CD

   General purpose clip art.  A sample book is a necessity for this
   one, as is a search/browse program with viewing capabilities.

If you know of anything that would fit the above criteria, I please 
send email.  In addition to netmail, I can be reached by email at:

Redaxe@aol.com
Redaxe@delphi.com
72030,2455@compuserve.com

... Rare coin: one you have left after paying taxes.
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From: TOM ROSETTI                            Number: 7553
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/25/93 11:01a
Subj: Hot Pix                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for any one of the Hot Pix CD's.  Anyone selling? If so, how much?

advTHANXance,
Tom

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From: RICHARD JOHNSON                        Number: 7554
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 11/26/93 10:55a
Subj: CD Rom Player                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Pat Rickerson to All dated 11-23-93 ***
> Hello All!
> 
> Have 2 Hitachi CD Rom Players for sale with controller, cable and soft 
> ware
> $250 obo  for all!

If these are CDR-3500s I'll offer $200 plus shipping. I have been looking for
more of these drives for awhile. Thanks.

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From: HENRY ARIAS                            Number: 7555
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 11/26/93 10:03a
Subj: CD For Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Make it $20.00 with shipping and I will let it go... Later <Henry>

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From: THOMAS NAPOLITANO                      Number: 7556
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/16/93 11:20p
Subj: CD-ROM Distributor                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I run the Weekender BBS in Milford, Massachusetts (1:333/542) and I'm also a
reseller and computer consult who is looking for a distributor of CD-ROM's
that I would be able to sell on my BBS. The CD-ROM's should be both Commercial
and Shareware and I would also like to offer my users and buyers Adult CD's. 
If you yourself are a distributor, or if you know of one, please contact me
either at my BBS (508) 478-7250, or leave me mail here with a number or
address where I can contact you.

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From: TIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 7557
  To: IRA WILSKER                              Date: 11/25/93 10:41p
Subj: Magazine Rack later than                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 IW> Sorry for a possibly repetitive message, but earlier this 
 IW> year I asked the vendors in the conference if there was any 
 IW> newer version of MAGAZINE RACK than the 1990 edition I have 
 IW> had for almost 2 years.



I loved it myself Ira, but a new version is not in the works. I called the
publisher, and they said the response to it was lukewarm, and they had no plans
to produce another version. 




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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 7558
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/26/93  5:32p
Subj: CD-ROM BB for Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Lee

Gee Picking on me now. <G>

 > release as well, barring no "Murphy" law problems.

..Red..

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From: MING WU                                Number: 7559
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/25/93  5:40p
Subj: Cd-rom drive for sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

IF you or anybody out there wants a new, internal, hitachi Cd-ROM drive, I have
one for $350. This includes the SCSI interface card for the drive. The drive is
being sold for this price since it is actually being resold from my distributor
(I am a reseller). If you want, I'm still willing to bargain. So if you want
it, leave me a message. -Ming Wu


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From: THOMAS NUFER                           Number: 7560
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 11/26/93  6:37p
Subj: Re: cd                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks! I will be looking for it!

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From: TIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 7561
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/25/93 11:59p
Subj: Busty Babes Volume II                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone have Busty Babes volume II, for sale, and how much 
please ?



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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 7562
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/26/93 11:04a
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices11/26/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To: 1:282/31 
 
Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM's 
from:  ComputerHelp 
       PO Box 385041 
       Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
       Ph:  (612) 890-4750 
       Fax:  (612) 894-9411 
 
(as of 11/26/93) 
 
SIMTEL MSDOS...................$13.00 
CICA MS Windows................$13.00 
Hobbes OS/2....................$13.00 
Aminet Amiga...................$13.00 
Garbo MSDOS/Mac................$13.00 
Sprite OS......................$13.00 
QRZ! Ham Radio.................$13.00 
ADA Programming................$18.50 
GIGA Games.....................$18.50 
La Coleccion...................$18.50 
Nova for NeXTs.................$18.50 
Project Gutenberg..............$18.50 
Source Code....................$18.50 
X11/GNU........................$18.50 
Info-Mac.......................$25.50 
CUG Library....................$23.50 
Linux..........................$23.50 
Libris Britannia...............$34.00 
Space and Astronomy............$18.50 
 
Shipping:  1-3 discs in one order = $4.50, 4-10 discs 
           in one order = $6.50. 
(MN residents add 6.5% sales tax). 
 
All prices subject to change without notice. 
 
"Yes Mildred, we do take personal cheques!" 
 
All orders by pre-payment, (you want cheap prices....); 
send to address above.  Call with questions. 
-  Richard Carter 
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 7563
  To: JIM FOWLER                               Date: 11/26/93 11:08a
Subj: Cd Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 On 11-25-93 Jim Fowler wrote to William Wright... 
 
 JF>  -=> Quoting William Wright to Robert Moore <=- 
 JF> 
 JF>  WW> The lowest price I've seen a NEW Double Speed CD-ROM for is $227. 
 JF> Its 
 JF>  WW> the Mitsumi, and it has 250 MS. So If you could afford 125 
 JF> dollars 
 JF>  WW> more, then go for it. 
 JF> 
 JF>  WW> I saw and bought the drive at Best Buy. 
 JF> 
 JF>  Zeos International is currently selling the new Mitsumi double 
 JF>  speed (FX001D) drive for $199. Their number is 1-800-423-5891. 
 JF> 
Ask for Bart! 
 
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 7564
  To: RED KENNEDY                              Date: 11/26/93 11:09a
Subj: Hobbes 10/93??                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To: 1:282/31 
 
Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM's 
from:  ComputerHelp 
       PO Box 385041 
       Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
       Ph:  (612) 890-4750 
       Fax:  (612) 894-9411 
 
(as of 11/26/93) 
 
SIMTEL MSDOS...................$13.00 
CICA MS Windows................$13.00 
Hobbes OS/2....................$13.00 
Aminet Amiga...................$13.00 
Garbo MSDOS/Mac................$13.00 
Sprite OS......................$13.00 
QRZ! Ham Radio.................$13.00 
ADA Programming................$18.50 
GIGA Games.....................$18.50 
La Coleccion...................$18.50 
Nova for NeXTs.................$18.50 
Project Gutenberg..............$18.50 
Source Code....................$18.50 
X11/GNU........................$18.50 
Info-Mac.......................$25.50 
CUG Library....................$23.50 
Linux..........................$23.50 
Libris Britannia...............$34.00 
Space and Astronomy............$18.50 
 
Shipping:  1-3 discs in one order = $4.50, 4-10 discs 
           in one order = $6.50. 
(MN residents add 6.5% sales tax). 
 
All prices subject to change without notice. 
 
"Yes Mildred, we do take personal cheques!" 
 
All orders by pre-payment, (you want cheap prices....); 
send to address above.  Call with questions. 
-  Richard Carter 
___ 
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From: TED MANOS                              Number: 7565
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 11/26/93  4:26a
Subj: Toshiba 3201 Wanted.                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Mike,

I missed your original posting.  Looks like you have/had some refurb'ed
CD-ROM drives for sale.  If you still do, used/refurb'ed/new, please
send me a list (or fax me at 708-980-4458).

Thanks
Ted
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From: TED MANOS                              Number: 7566
  To: DAMIAN STAMM                             Date: 11/26/93  4:26a
Subj: Cd-Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DS> I am looking for a CD-ROM, internal IBM, with 180 ms access or
 DS> close for $300 or less.  Please help.

Aren't we all!!  The fastest CR-ROM drive that I am aware of (that is
available to the general public) is the new NEC 3X, which is only 195ms
access.  The *wholesale* price for it is about $450 (US).  The NEC 4X is
faster (don't know how much), but is *only* available to *developers*,
and is currently going for about $800 (developer price) as I recall.

As far as I'm concerned, the *best* bang for the buck is the Toshiba
3401B, which is 200ms access, SCSI-2, 256K cache,
multi-session/multi-speed, and can be had for around $400 (US).  *IF*
you find something better/cheaper, let *me* know -- PLEASE!

Ted
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From: TED MANOS                              Number: 7567
  To: GARY HOFFERMAN                           Date: 11/26/93  5:11a
Subj: Re: Sellers Wanted                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would be interested in finding out more about your program.  Please
send info to:

Theodore W. Manos, Sr.
Alpha Omega Consulting Group, Ltd.
400 Springhill Dr.
Roselle, IL  60172-2573
(708) 980-7919
Fax: (708) 980-4458
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From: TED MANOS                              Number: 7568
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 11/26/93  5:11a
Subj: Re: Cdrom Pricing-Walnut                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send me a copy of your CD-ROM catalog.

Ted Manos
400 Springhill Dr.
Roselle, IL  60172-2573

Thanks much,
Ted
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From: TED MANOS                              Number: 7569
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 11/26/93  5:11a
Subj: Re: Hobbes 10/93??                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Hayden,

Would you please send me a copy of your latest CD-ROM catalog/price
list?  Thanks much.

Ted Manos
400 Springhill Dr.
Roselle, IL  60172-2573
Fax: (708) 980-4458
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From: TED MANOS                              Number: 7570
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 11/26/93  5:11a
Subj: Re: New Cd'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Boris,

Please send me a copy of your latest CD-ROM catalog/price sheet.
Thanks much.

Ted Manos
400 Springhill Dr.
Roselle, IL  60172-2573
Fax: (708) 980-4458
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From: TED MANOS                              Number: 7571
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/26/93  5:11a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Joe,

Please send me a copy of your catalog.  Thanks much.

Ted Manos
400 Springhill Dr.
Roselle, IL  60172-2573
Fax: (708) 980-4458
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From: TED MANOS                              Number: 7572
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 11/26/93  5:06a
Subj: Re: Cd Rom Player                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Pat,

Could you provide just a little bit more info about these players?  I
might be interested in taking both of them.  Thanks

Ted Manos
400 Springhill Dr.
Roselle, IL  60172-2573
(708) 980-7919
Fax: (708) 980-4458
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From: TED MANOS                              Number: 7573
  To: JOHN CARROLL                             Date: 11/26/93  5:06a
Subj: Re: Caddies!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

John,

If these are the standard CR-DOM caddies, with the sliding metal
shutter, I will take *all* of them.  Let me know.

Ted Manos
(708) 980-7919
Fax: (708) 980-4458
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From: TED MANOS                              Number: 7574
  To: MARCIAL MORENO                           Date: 11/26/93  6:49a
Subj: Re: Cd-Rom Disc'S For Sal               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send a copy of your latest catalog/price list to:

Ted Manos
400 Springhill Dr.
Roselle, IL  60172-2573
Fax: (708) 980-4458
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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 7575
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 11/21/93  9:56p
Subj: hello                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi bob, If your still looking for the original BB for 75 dollars. I still have
that one. Let me know if you want it! I'll hold it for you till you reply!
Ken Matthews
5415 Third st.
Verona Pa 15147

Xpress Yourself

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From: NINO FAGAN                             Number: 7576
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 11/25/93  8:18p
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices11/23/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Richard Carter wrote  
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
:>To: 1:282/31
:>Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM's
:>from:  ComputerHelp
:>(as of 11/22/93)

Richard,
 
 I've seen numerous of the below ad.  Seems like there's even
more than one a day.  But I could be wrong about that.  Regardless
THAT is not what's concerning me, that's the moderators job.
 
 I don't know if I should be jubilant about these prices or be
skeptical?  I just received my quarterly Hobbs CDRom from Walnut
Creek and THEIR price list.  Below is listed your and theirs. How
is it that you can go SO low?: 
                     Yours    WCC's
SIMTEL MSDOS..........$13.00   29.95
CICA MS Windows.......$13.00   29.95
Hobbes OS/2...........$13.00   29.95
Aminet Amiga..........$13.00   29.95
Garbo MSDOS/Mac.......$13.00   29.95
Sprite OS.............$13.00   29.95
QRZ! Ham Radio........$13.00   29.95
ADA Programming.......$18.50   39.95
GIGA Games............$18.50   39.95
La Coleccion..........$18.50   39.95
Nova for NeXTs........$18.50   59.95
Project Gutenberg.....$18.50   39.95
Source Code...........$18.50   39.95
X11/GNU...............$18.50   39.95
Info-Mac..............$25.50   49.95
CUG Library...........$23.50   49.95
Linux.................$23.50   49.95
Libris Britannia......$34.00   69.95
Space and Astronomy...$18.50   39.95

If you ARE ligit with these low prices, I may never go back
to Walnut Creek.

Regards, 
Nino
... Support Shareware, or pay commercial prices!
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From: NINO FAGAN                             Number: 7577
  To: ALAN ORNDORFF                            Date: 11/25/93  8:24p
Subj: Re: Hobbes 10/93??                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Alan Orndorff wrote  
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
:>Good Price!  But I don't feel bad.  I have had it in hand for over a
:>week now, and have already started using some of the programs off of
:>it. Price isn't always everything. 
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

Boy, am I glad your speaking for yourself Alan. :)  I'll wait for the
cheapest price.  Didn't know about these others and I too have had the
Hobbs for a week or so.

Regards, 
Nino
... Hello, is this the party to whom I am speaking?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7578
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/26/93  2:09a
Subj: SPECIAL                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~[  S P E C I A L  B U N D L E S  ]~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1. Software Vault Gold     2. Night Owl 10.         3. Shareware Online 2
   Software Vault Games       Night Owl Games          Gameware
   Software Vault Windows     Night Owl Graphics       Soundware
   Price - $49.00             Price - $65.00           Price - $49.00

4. Hobbes OS/2 'NOV'       5. Tech Arsenal          6. Pier 3
   Window Users Arch          TechnoTool               Cream Of The Crop II
   Price - $30.00             Price - $30.00           Price - $45.00

   ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUE 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7579
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/26/93  2:09a
Subj: CATALOG                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=[ F R E E   C A T A L O G ]=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Our NEW Catalog is Now Available For File Request Using the Name
" CCI.ZIP" or the Magic Name Of "CCI". If you already have a copy you
may request "UPDATE.ZIP" as it contians many new additions .You may
request both files from anyone of the systems below. If you're not running
a mailer, your welcome to visit the BBS's below and download it FREE.

  1:157/46  - 216-225-6130 US     or     1:388/20  - 817-756-7565 US


=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=[ This is Only The Begining ]=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Boris Osadciw

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From: PATRICK SHEN                           Number: 7580
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/25/93  2:06p
Subj: Cd-rom for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have following CD-ROMs for sale.  All CD-ROMs are in New Condition. Add $3
for UPS or Priority Mail shipping.

7th Guest by Virgin Games (2 CD set).  Smooth full motion video.  Best CD ever
made.                                    --------------  $40.00

Software Toolworks CD Game Pack II.  10 games on one CD.  Each has its own
documents.                             --------------------  $22.00

LucasArts Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe.  Very good World War II Air Combat
Simulation game.  I'll include a mission/utilities disk as a free bonus.       
                              -------------------  $20.00

Defender of the Crown - A tale of jousting heroes and damsels in distess by
Cinemaware.  A Robin Hood game.  Requires a Hitachi CD-ROM drive with audio
output.                                ------------------  $17.00

Deathstar Arcade Battles.  The most exciting arcade action and other games of
all time.                           ------------------  $15.00

SelectWare System.  The Ultimate Software Demo System.   ------   $9.00

Amateur Models Adult CD.                       ----------------  $33.00

If you are interested, please reply here to contact me at E-mail address below.

Patrick Shen
CompuServe: 72072,3612
Internet: pshen@simenv.com

===
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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 7581
  To: STEPHEN NOBREGA                          Date: 11/26/93  3:03p
Subj: CD-ROM for kids                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> MM>Fatty Bear's Funpack for $34 for the CD-ROM.  If you know of any
-> BBS's that

We have a good assortment of kid's CDs at HRB Computer Services, in
Toronto.  Fatty Bear's Funpack sells for $56. $CDN.  If you'd like more
info call 1-800-265-7081.

Regards,

Hayden Bradshaw

Internet:  hayden.bradshaw@canrem.com
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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 7582
  To: JEAN-LOUIS BONTRONT                      Date: 11/26/93  8:32p
Subj: Educational shareware CD                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Is there any such thing as a CD with _mostly_ educational shareware
-> on it?  I run an educational oriented BBS.  I know that most CD have
-> an educational shareware section.  I'm looking for one that
-> concentrates on this.  Any thoughts?
->
-> JLB

Bonjour, Jean-Louis, ca va?

If you'd like, I will send you our current price listing with Full
Description of most of our 700+ CDs.  We're located in Toronto, so you
can count on us to get you your CDs hassle-free.

Please include your address in this conference or dial up our modem at
(905) 882-5043 and download file:  CD112293.ZIP.  Ordering and info
outside of Toronto is 1-800-265-7081, during regular business hours.

HRB Computer Services, Richmond Hill, Ontario Canada

Au Revoir!

Hayden.
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From: GREG MUNDA                             Number: 7583
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/25/93 12:19p
Subj: age                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What's wrong with being 37 ??? I will be 37 by Christmas.  As for your comment
how good can a 37 year old women be, I'm hoping their GREAT!!!  Who would want
a youger one??? I'm tired of being the teacher!!!

Hmmmm, a 37 year old woman with a compter and lots of CD'S??? I may have to
send your my resume !!!!

Best luck with your adventures...you produce them and I'll buy them!!!


greg
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From: JOHNNY TEIXIDO                         Number: 7584
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/25/93  9:31p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Anyone out there selling a cd-rom for under 100.00.If you are i'll buy it.


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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 7585
  To: ALAN ORNDORFF                            Date: 11/22/93  9:21a
Subj: Re: os2box report.                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Alan Orndorff to Sysop <=- 
 
 DP>Looking for honest input for future versions of the OS/2Box, 
 
 AO> Very pleased with the initial release! 
 
Great!  I appreciate your support of the product. 
 
Thanks again! 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
The CD PowerBox Guys! 
 
  
... Damar Enterprises - Home of the shareware CD-boxes! 
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 7586
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 11/22/93  5:34p
Subj: Re: hobbes 10/93??                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Chris Wood <=- 
 
 >>    Is there any Canadian distributor or American distributor that 
 >>    carries the latest Hobbes OS/2 CDROM.  I believe it would be 
 >>    either a 10/93 or 11/93 press, as I already have the 06/93. 
  
 >>    Please leave a number that I can order from with my Visa if 
 >>    you carry this CD. 
 
 BO> Chris, as of this date the Hobbes OS/2 disk has not been released yet. 
 
 BO> There has been no word yet as to when it will be out. 
 
 BO> When it does come out, I'am sure you'll see a ton of messages posted 
 BO> saying they have the cd in stock. I'am sure the wait will be worth it 
 BO> as I have yet to see any cd out that is any good in the OS/2 
 BO> department, other than one put out by "Profit Press" almost a year ago. 
 
 
Too bad you haven't seen our OS/2Box.  Seeing as it is truly BBS ready and has
a 
GUI for end-users, the disk tops Hobbes as the latest in OS/2 shareware. 
Perhaps Mike Shannon can get you some at dealer costs so your customers can
take 
a look at it? 
 
Later, 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
The CD PowerBox Guys! 
 
  
... Damar Enterprises - Home of the shareware CD-boxes! 
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 7587
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 11/22/93  5:37p
Subj: Re: Hobbes os/2 oct 93                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Vince Sorensen to Chris Wood <=- 
 
 VS> Hi Chris! 
 
 VS> We're looking into it, but not carrying it as of right now. 
 
 VS> Thanks for asking! 
 VS> Vince 
 
 VS> CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA 
 VS> 6 Armstrong Bay 
 VS> Regina, Sk., Canada S4N 4G7 
 VS> 306-789-4654 
 VS> 306-789-8690 Fax 
 
Thanks though, for carrying Damar Enterprises' OS/2Box! 
 
-Couldn't resist.  <G> 
 
Hope all is well north of the border, 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
The CD PowerBox Guys! 
 
  
... Damar Enterprises - Home of the shareware CD-boxes! 
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 7588
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/22/93  5:56p
Subj: CD PowerBox II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

OK boys and girls.  Damar Enterprises announces ANOTHER new release! 
 
                          The CD PowerBox Version 2.00 
 
We just went to press on this and it is scheduled for shipment to the better 
dealers in this echo on December 15, 1993.  The disk has been checked against 
itself, Pier3 and NOWL10 for duplication (and virsus, of course). 
 
The % dupes between PowerBox2 and NOWL10 - 7.94% 
                                  PIER3  - 12.85% 
 
So, why would you be interested in the PowerBox 2 over these other 2?  Well, 
first off, the PowerBox 2 has NEWER files!  As new as November 13, 1993! 
 
Second off, the PowerBox 2 has over 500 MORE files than the NOWL10 disk and,
get 
this folks, over 1000 more than PIER3!  These are the NEWEST and GREATEST files

available right now AND IN TIME FOR CHRISTMAS.  OK, that's it from me - contact

your favorite dealer for pre-orders and if they don't carry the PowerBox 2,
tell 
them to call us for dealer pricing!! 
 
Oh yeah, almost forgot - the PowerBox 2 features the UNIVERSAL INTERFACE!  This

is a GUI based on the need by YOU for a single standard front end for your 
various different shareware disks!  No longer do you need to mess around with 
the others' GUI, use the UNIVERSAL INTERFACE - found ONLY on Damar Enterprises 
CD-ROMS. 
 
Now back to the usual stuff, 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
The CD PowerBox Guys! 
 
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 7589
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 11/26/93  9:59p
Subj: CD Rom Player                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Scott!

Thursday November 25 1993, Scott Raley writes to Pat Rickerson:

 SR> Would you like to trade that package for a copy of Wordperfect 5.2
 SR> for Windows?   Unregistered, complete commercial package, not the
 SR> update.

Just upgraded to 6.0 thanks anyway
Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 7590
  To: RICHARD JOHNSON                          Date: 11/26/93 10:00p
Subj: CD Rom Player                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Richard!

Friday November 26 1993, Richard Johnson writes to Pat Rickerson:

 RJ> *** Quoting Pat Rickerson to All dated 11-23-93 ***

 >> Hello All!
 >>
 >> Have 2 Hitachi CD Rom Players for sale with controller, cable and soft
 >> ware
 >> $250 obo  for all!

 RJ> If these are CDR-3500s I'll offer $200 plus shipping. I have been looking
 RJ> for more of these drives for awhile. Thanks.

Will do that but with out the controller card
Pat

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From: DOUG CLARK                             Number: 7591
  To: SID LEE                                  Date: 11/26/93  1:21a
Subj: Fees                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have noticed that your board has a lot of great features do you have a
registry fee if so could you call me at work tomorrow (nov.26 93) or at home
when you can at 293-5965home or work 253-2222 ask for Doug Clark
thanks alot doug if i can help at all let me know 

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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 7592
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/24/93  5:03a
Subj: Novell Netware 3.xx & CDROMs            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have heard that Novell Netware 3.xx directly supports CDROM drives.  Does
anyone know if that includes the old Hitachi CDR3500 drives?  These use an
8bit controller model number CD-IFI8-S.  If Novell Netware 3.xx does not
directly support these Hitachi drives, is there a driver that can be linked
into Netware that will allow the network to recognize these drives?
 
Thanks in advance for your help.
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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 7593
  To: WILLIAM WRIGHT                           Date: 11/25/93  5:29a
Subj: cd rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WW> > Lowest price I have seen lately is $99 for Hitachi
WW> > 3500s, if someone gives you a lower price, let me know
WW> > so I can buy some, OK?

WW> The lowest price I've seen a NEW Double Speed CD-ROM for is
WW> $227. Its the Mitsumi, and it has 250 MS. So If you could
WW> afford 125 dollars more, then go for it.

No, I want to buy EIGHT of them.  Affording them is not the issue, I just
think that $99 a pop is more realistic then $227 when you are buying eight of
them!
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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 7594
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 11/25/93  5:52a
Subj: cd rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Did you say you are selling Hitachi CDR3500 drives that are in need of repair?
 How much are you selling them for?
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From: JOHN HOPKE                             Number: 7595
  To: ROD WILEY                                Date: 11/26/93  6:49a
Subj: RE: Re: DOS 6.2                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Stacker will get you a better compression ratio. Dos 6.0, 6.2 are not
-> they are cracked up to be. Besides if you want to take off the dos co

Agreed!

-> system it is a major headache. Unlike Stacker, at least with the Stac
-> simply tell it to uninstall and it takes it from there.

Hmmmm...What happens if you have more compressed than drive space?
I.E. 60megs on a compressed volume and a 40meg HD

Just Curious...

C-ya


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 7596
  To: 7400                                     Date: 11/26/93  8:51p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM BB for Sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NOTE: This message was originally addressed to JOHN PIERCE
      and was forwarded to you by TIM MORGAN
                          --------------------
In a message to Eric Luzum <11-13-93 12:01> John Pierce wrote:

JP>> version. Since both r1 and r2 are out of production, naturally they
JP>> are
JP>> of more value than r3 which is still being printed!

Let me bring you to date on the BB I R3, she is out of print as of the cease
and desist order in early September--She pressed 1 time in July, and is about
dry amongst the distribs--Shame though, she was a classic !

Ecstasy is a dead disc too <sniff>.....

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: TIM MORGAN                             Number: 7597
  To: GEORGE SCAPIN                            Date: 11/26/93  8:52p
Subj: Re: multimedia packages f               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> > * 1 Phillips CD-ROM
->  -> * 1 Sound Blaster Pro
->  -> * 2 speakers
->  -> * 1 microphone
->  -> * 5 CDs (including atlas and encyclopedia)
->  -> * all necessary literature.
->  -> The price for each package is $ 250.00
->
->
-> Please either contact me at (904) 455-0371 or leave me your phone num
-> am interested in the multimedia package that you have advertized....
->
-> What kind of warranty comes with this deal and what are the specifica
-> on the cd rom
->
->
-> Thank you.
->
-> George Scapin
->
->
-> ... Catch the Blue Wave!
->
->
-> --- WM v3.10/93-0864
->  * Origin: WRINKLES & FEATHERS BBS 904-939-8404  NAVARRE, FL  (1:366/
->
->
->
->
->would you take 200.00


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From: TIM MORGAN                             Number: 7598
  To: RICHARD JOHNSON                          Date: 11/26/93  8:57p
Subj: CD Rom Player                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> *** Quoting Pat Rickerson to All dated 11-23-93 ***
-> > Hello All!
-> >
-> > Have 2 Hitachi CD Rom Players for sale with controller, cable and s
-> > ware
-> > $250 obo  for all!
->
-> If these are CDR-3500s I'll offer $200 plus shipping. I have been loo
-> more of these drives for awhile. Thanks.
->
-> --- GEcho 1.00
->  * Origin: THE JunkYard BBS (1:226/510.10)
->
->
->
->
->Is it Multimedia Compadable


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From: BOBBY COOPER                           Number: 7599
  To: MIKE MICHLIK                             Date: 11/26/93  3:09p
Subj: Aldus Photostyler 2.0                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MM>BC>  CD-Rom Special Edition version 2.0
MM>BC>  Never opened CD.

MM>What's included in this upgrade that 1.0 doesn't have?


I never had ver 1.0, but this is very similar to Adobe Photoshop.


 * OLX 2.1 TD * Chicken heads are the chief food of captive alligators.


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From: CHRIS VANDER MAAS                      Number: 7600
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 11/26/93  8:52p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Catalog                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JL> If you are looking for great prices on the latest CD-Roms, give us a
 JL> call or post your address, and we will be glad to send you our latest
 JL> price list.  We also have a 44 page catalog complete with descriptions
 JL> available for download from our support BBS.  The file name is
 JL> CATALOG.ZIP for DOS Text and CATLOGWP.ZIP for Word Perfect format.
 JL> We also have file lists for most popular shareware titles, and accept
 JL> online orders using credit cards or COD.  Let me know if you have any
 JL> questions.  We appreciate your business!

Please send me a copy to:
Chris Vander Maas
5 Carolyn St.
W. Milford, NJ
   07480-1959

... "What?!? This isn't the Files section?!?"
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7601
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 11/27/93  8:16a
Subj: ADULT CD'S                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I hope you haven't started a trend....   (:>

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 7602
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 11/27/93  9:07a
Subj: HELLO                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks, Ken, but I'm not looking for any more copies.

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From: KEITH GUINDON                          Number: 7603
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/27/93  8:43a
Subj: Re: CC2 bbs ready directories           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>  *** TERRY BLOUNT'S NEW BBS READY NOVEMBER RELEASE CREAM
> OF THE CROP II***
>>                  SYSOPS PRICE $25.50 / OUR USER FEE $28.50
> We thought you'd be interested in a directory structure
> will send this at our expense along with our entire CDLIST,
Joe,
   I am Keith Guindon the sysop of the Hobby Haven BBS in Jonestown, Pa.
(717)865-0055 and am interested in the above with your CDLIST.  I have been
watching your messages on this echo and you seem to regard your customers as a
valued asset with what went on with NO-10. Please send to
    Keith Guindon
    RD1 Box 1237
    Jonestown, Pa. 17038

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From: LAWRENCE MINTZ                         Number: 7604
  To: NINO FAGAN                               Date: 11/27/93 11:16a
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices11/23/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  Richard Carter wrote
 > ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
 >:>To: 1:282/31
 >:>Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM's
 >:>from:  ComputerHelp
 >:>(as of 11/22/93)

 > Richard,

 >  I've seen numerous of the below ad.  Seems like
 > there's even
 > more than one a day.  But I could be wrong about that.
 >  Regardless
 > THAT is not what's concerning me, that's the
 > moderators job.

 >  I don't know if I should be jubilant about these
 > prices or be
 > skeptical?

What you are seeing is the difference between manufacturer's suggested retail
price of a product and the actual selling price of the same item.  It happens
with many products. Mail order dealers typically will sell the same item for
less than local dealers (that's how they get business and they don't have the
same costs as a local dealer because they may not have a store front.)  The
manufacturer (in this case Walnut Creek) cannot sell the item below THEIR OWN
suggested retail price (or they would be undercutting their normal distribution
channels.) However, the price the distributors pay for the product may actually
be only 40 percent of the suggested retail price. (The figure I am using is
true of the hard cover book trade.)  The distributor, if not the final seller,
will then sell the product to the retailer for 60 to 70 percent of retail.
Therefore, if the offer comes from someone who purchases direct from the
manufacturer, he or she can sell the product for 50 to 60 percent of retail and
still make a profit (if other costs are controlled.)

Larry

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From: ROBERT KOSIN                           Number: 7605
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/26/93  3:06p
Subj: 130.00 cdrom drive                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Enyone looking for a cdrom drive for their computer? If so I'm selling my
Magnavox cdd 461...is a little slow, but it has enough
speed for the home user. Also works great for a BBS, its a cheap
way to increase file volume. If interested leave me a message and 
I'll be happy to get back to you...Its three weeks old hardly used,
because I can't run it with os2 2.0 needs windows 3.1 
Thanks
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From: RICHARD STROH                          Number: 7606
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/27/93  5:48p
Subj: Shareware Studio Iii                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I can't remember who left a message about the Shareware Studio III....
I need to find out how can I get the CD sent COD. to me....  Please
reply,...

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 7607
  To: LEROY GRIFFITHS                          Date: 11/26/93 10:45a
Subj: Thanks!                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Leroy  Griffiths   wrote   in  a   message   to   Joe   Rinehart:

LG> Joe,
LG>     The new disc  arrived  today  (Wednesday).  I  really  LOVED
LG> the install program that puts the files into RA
LG> automatically! Great concept.  I  reccomend  this  disc  to  any
LG> sysop! Thanks again, and if you need a  refrence  for  Cream  Of
LG> The Crop II, let me know!

 I made 2 mistakes in the  control  file  that  RA_cream  uses  to
 automatically set up Cream of the Crop  II.   You  can  run  your
 RA config program and fix the 2 problems with  your  editor.  The
 first thing you need to do is to change the  path  to  the  files
 in the directory that contains the files  for  editing  and  text
 processing.  Ra_cream set up the path  to   "EDIT"   however  the
 files are actually located in a  directory  called  "EDITOR"   so
 all you need to do is add "OR" so Ra  can find the files in  that
 directory.    Secondly... The files  in  the  Business  directory
 were appended to the files in the BBS  area  ...so  you  need  to
 create a new file area directory named "BUSINESS" and then  use a
 text editor you need to load the BBS listing and split  the  file
 where  the  "Business"  listings  start.   Since  they   are   in
 alphabetical order it will be easy to locate the end of  the  BBS
 list and the beginning of the Business list.

 I'm really sorry that I goofed.  Thanks

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From: RAYMOND RUEST                          Number: 7608
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 11/25/93 12:00a
Subj: Kings Quest VI                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Mike,
     I was eyeing Kings Quest VI for a while now.  Sounds like a great game.
If it isn't already gone...I'll take it.  Please respons & let me know.

                    Thanks
                         Ray

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From: J. ALLEN                               Number: 7609
  To: MICHAEL CROSSON                          Date: 11/26/93  8:26p
Subj: Re: $25 QUOTE IN QUESTION               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MC> Although Mike Shannon's service has always been fast, and his prices are
MC> good - this experience has soured me a bit on buying from StarVector in the
MC> future.  His refusal to honor the price by claiming he never saw it is not
MC> much different from him calling me a liar.
MC> 
MC> Michael
MC> 

He also refused to honor a competitor's price that he himself posted.  I
believe his defense was since he was posting bogus pricing, he didn't have
to honor those prices either.  

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From: JOEL MANDIGO                           Number: 7610
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 11/25/93 10:32a
Subj: CD Rom Player                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a Message From: Pat Rickerson  To: All  Dated: 11-23-93 at: 07:32
PR--> Hello All!
PR--> Have 2 Hitachi CD Rom Players for sale with controller,
PR--> cable and soft ware
PR--> $250 obo  for all!
PR--> Pat


      Pat,
          What is the access time on the CD-ROMS? Are they fast enough to be
used with sound and video? And how old are they?

                    Joel...

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7611
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/26/93 11:31p
Subj: **Catalog offer***                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> CD-ROM DRIVE OWNERS, or even if you don't own one, we have them....
   Ask for a copy of our CDLIST!  If you'd like a printed copy, send your
mailing information to us.  We don't mark-up shipping like other dealers.
>  We will file attach our CDLIST upon request, for any sysop in the World!
>CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 850 cd-rom disc titles available)
FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176 - WWIVNet 2@2659
Joe Rinehart                   Voice: (216) 296-9831
P.O. Box 27                    Data/Fax: (216) 296-GIGO(4446) ZyXEL 16.8
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001          >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7612
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/26/93 11:35p
Subj: *CD-ROM Bundle*                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CREAM OF THE CROP BUNDLE of versions 1 & 2<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>We are offering The Cream of the Crop bundle for only $40.00 and will
match any advertised price w/shipping on single versions:-)  We are offering
a 30 day 100% money back guarantee and have BBS READY setups for almost any
BBS.  To order contact: Joe Rinehart, P.O.Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240-0001,
>voice:216.296.9831 We also DO NOT markup shipping cost unlike most dealers.
$2.90 Priorty Mail Both versions are on-line for review at the Blue Parrot
CD-ROM SUPPORT BBS. Very low duplication rate to night owl or pier disc which
means additional files & virus insurance... IN STOCK READY FOR SHIPPING!  10%
SYSOP DISCOUNT!  THIS BUNDLE IS GREAT & has not been copied by others!

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From: CLINT MORTON                           Number: 7613
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/25/93  7:00p
Subj: Cd Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for a used but not abused, rom drive. (internal)  Have cash 
and some hardware for trade or sale.  
                                         Clint Morton

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From: LEE DETTER                             Number: 7614
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 11/27/93  6:49p
Subj: CD-Rom Wanted!!!! Cheap!!!!!!           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hay umm how fast are those CD-Rom's and what kind are they?? Tell me every
thing about them! I am thinking geting it if you will drop the price some
more.. I am not in a good spot..... What about 180 for them....... I have to
raise the money on my BBS though... SE Ya

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From: DAVID DAMICO                           Number: 7615
  To: JEFF HUGHES                              Date: 11/27/93 10:17a
Subj: To: matt bedtelyon...                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

please let me know the tuype scsi?


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 7616
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/24/93  8:08p
Subj: Big Sky Special                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                        ****** Big Sky Rom ****** 
 
 *  7024 Archives, 664,860,429 bytes of downloadable archives. 
 *  All archives use Pkzip 2.04g maximum compression. 
 *  All files scanned with McAfee Associates SCAN 9.15 V104 
 *  All archives contain a FILE_ID.DIZ to identify them. This feature 
    saves the receiving sysops loads of work! 
 *  All files are True Date Stamped based on the largest file. 
 *  All archives compared to the latest Hack Report lists to remove 
    any illegal, commercial, or hacked programs. 
 *  No unnecessary files or directories cluttering the disc. 
 
While supplies last, get the Up All Night shareware CD-Rom for only $10 
when you buy Big Sky Rom for $26.  Shipping and handling $4 in the US. 
 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice           Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
(205) 671-0092 BBS        Download CATALOG.ZIP for our full catalog. 
 
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From: MICHAEL FURST                          Number: 7617
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/26/93  7:50p
Subj: Thanks for the Pier 3!                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike,
 Just wanted to let you know that I would like to thank you for Pier 3
trade. For the record I really could not get NO10 CD to run in my
machine! I didn't care if it had viruses or not, just don't run them!!
And for anyone who reads this message, Mike is a great DEALER and has
THE best prices around!!
                                Again Mike THANKS!!
                                        -- Mike


 * QMPro 1.51 * Drop your carrier!.....we have you surrounded!

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From: CHRIS CONKLIN                          Number: 7618
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/09/93  6:47p
Subj: Adult Super Deal!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Seedy Six Pac  with over 29,000 gif's plus hundreds of text files.

This 6 CD set comes factory shrink wrapped with offical seal.

Complete set including shipping anywhere in the U.S. is only $99.00
(While supply lasts)

I have some available as individual disc's for $19.00
Indicate which disk you would like 1-6

Also have numerious other available at super bargain prices!

Post or call for a free catalog.

We will do our best to beat anyone's prices on CD titles!

Call in the evenings (home based to save YOU money!)
915-944-7187  Please ask for Chris

Talk to you soon!

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From: CHRIS CONKLIN                          Number: 7619
  To: DAVE BAKKER                              Date: 11/14/93  1:38p
Subj: Looking for                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Dave

   How about the "Plant Doctor" .   I can ship it to you for $29.00.

Let me know if you are interested

C-3 Production Systems
915-944-7187  Evenings are the best time to catch us.


PO Box 60144
San Angelo, Tx
     76906

TTYL



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From: CHRIS CONKLIN                          Number: 7620
  To: EDDIE IMPERIAL                           Date: 11/18/93  9:13p
Subj: CD'S Wanted                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Eddie

How about Swimwear 1993 for $27.00
Seedy Six-Pack   For $99.00   or bust up the set for $19.00 ea
Digital Dreams for $25.00
Storm I for $25.00
Adult Reference Library for $22.00


TTYL     
915-944-7187


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From: CHRIS CONKLIN                          Number: 7621
  To: MIKE STEFFEN                             Date: 11/18/93  9:17p
Subj: XXX CD for trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Mike

   I have a new copy of Digital Dreams I trade for XXX Extreme

If interested, post here and mail to the address below and we'll cross in the
mail.  Or of you prefer, give me a call at the number below some time in the
evening or anytime on the weekend.

Chris Conklin
7705 Warrior
San Angelo, Tx
     76904
915-944-7187

TTYL


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From: CHRIS CONKLIN                          Number: 7622
  To: JEFF BAKALCHUCK                          Date: 11/24/93  8:45p
Subj: Flight 642 CDROM                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Jeff

How does $25.00  (including shipping) sound?

Let me know

TTYL


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From: JOHN THOMPSON                          Number: 7623
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 11/26/93 11:22a
Subj: Cdrom Disc Prices11/24/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RC>  Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM's  
RC>  from:  ComputerHelp  
RC>         PO Box 385041  
RC>         Bloomington, MN  55438-0041  
RC>         Ph:  (612) 890-4750  
RC>         Fax:  (612) 894-9411  
RC>    
RC>  (as of 11/24/93)  
RC>    
RC>  SIMTEL MSDOS...................$13.00  

Is this the 11/93 release of the SIMTEL CDROM?

 * KingQWK 1.05 # 39 * Eschew Obfuscation!
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7624
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/26/93 11:50p
Subj: NEW: HOBBES OS/2 & MORE!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #1:  NEW CD ARRIVALS   |
           |____________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

 20TH CENTURY SPORTS * Multimedia journal of sport history from 1900 on.$29
 ADVENTURES IN HEAVEN * Ultimate game collection!.......................$19
 A.S.P. SHAREWARE * Finally! A CD full of works from ASP authors........$22
 BUSTY BABES VOL 2 * The FIRST serious "soft" adult CD for BBS!.........$29
 DUNE * Exciting multimedia action game on CD! Great animation & sound..$39
 FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$24
 FRACTUNES * Colorful, ever-changing graphics synched with music........$30
 GAMES COLLECTION * A pure-games CD featuring 90% '93 file dates! BBS...$26
>GIF'S GALORE 9/93 * Thousands of new, brilliant, color .GIF images.....$16
 GIRLS OF MARDI GRAS * New "R" adult film showcasing wild party girls...$43
 GROLIER'S MPC 6.0 * The latest edition of Grolier's encyclopedia.......$45
 HEALTH & MEDICAL DIRECTORY * Guide to all doctors & hospitals in U.S...$27
>HOBBES OS/2 10/93 * The latest version w/ 3000 current OS/2 files!.....$16
 HOLLYWOOD THE BIZARRE * Lives & deaths of the stars w/ 1 hr. of voices.$43
 HORROR & SCI-FI FILMS * Full details of over 2300 films w/ 100s of pix.$43
 IMAGES OF NASA * The finest collection of authentic NASA photos........$25
>JEWEL CASES * They always break, so buy extras!.........................$1
 LA COLECCION * 600+mb of recent shareware w/ description is Spanish....$24
 LAN MASTER * High quality Networking utilities & technical notes.......$25
 LEARNING HEAVEN * Mind challenging educational games...................$19
 LINUX OPERATING SYSTEM * Unix-like operating system for PC's...........$29
 MAD DOG MCCREE * Great shoot 'em up game with real, full-motion video..$39
 MONSTER MEDIA 93 VOL 2 * 630+mb from May thru Aug. 93 with manual!.....$29
 MULTIMEDIA MAGIC COLLECTION * Complete commercial programs & M/M demos.$28
 NEWSWEEK INTERACTIVE * An exciting look back at Newsweek's top stories.$26
 OS/2BOX * The best, most recent OS/2 shareware CD. Fully BBS-ready.....$29
 -->SPECIAL PAK: OS/2BOX + HOBBES 10/93.................................$39
 PC KARAOKE * Complete Karaoke package with microphone! Great CD sound..$68
 PC SIG WINDOWS * Full of the latest Windows shareware..................$19
 PROJECT GUTENBERG * Texts from Project Gutenberg for 1991-1993.........$22
 PUBLISHER'S POWERHOUSE * 750 TrueType fonts + 8200 PCX images w/ book!.$29
 REEL CLIPS * 600mb of royalty-free digital video clips.................$25
 RETURN TO ZORK * Live-action video game w/ Hollywood actors. Great!....$50
 SHAREWARE 93 VOL 2 * Sep. 93 release w/ all new 1993 files! BBS-ready..$20
 SO MUCH SPACE! * A galaxy full of breathtaking scenes from space.......$24
 SOLAR HEAVEN * Nice collection of astronomy & astrology programs.......$23
 SPACE & ASTRONOMY * Over 7000 image & shareware files on astronomy.....$27
 SPACE SHUTTLE * Multimedia adventure aboard the shuttle w/ 50 missions.$25
 STAR TREK COLLECTIBLES * CD-ROM encyclopedia of Star Trek memorabilia..$59
>TECH ARSENAL * 1000's of recent, programming and techincal files.......$22
 WIN PLATINUM * Very nice new Windows CD with all programs ready to run.$24
 WINDOWS COLLECTION * A Windows-only CD with ALL '93 file dates! BBS....$26
 WORLD FACT BOOK M/M * Full multimedia guide for researchers or "spies".$23

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7625
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/26/93 11:50p
Subj: BUY PIER3 GET A CD FREE!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |        Title:  PIER 3         |  |   Price:  $29   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

                             >>> IT'S HERE! <<<

     The wait is over!  Night Owl's closest rival in the shareware CD
     industry has just released their latest disc:  The Pier Shareware 3.
     Since the release of Pier 1 and 2, there has been a growing
     consensus in the CD-ROM industry that Pier CD's simply have no
     equal when it comes to recent files, accurate BBS listings, and
     great user interfaces.  To put it simply folks, if you are looking
     for the absolute BEST shareware CD for your personal or BBS use,
     Pier 3 is the CD you need.  You will not find a better organized,
     more current shareware CD on the world market, at ANY PRICE!

     * 628mb total
     * GUARANTEED free of viruses!
     * Separate <ASP> directory.
     * 100% files dated 1993 S.D.C. (Smart Date Checking utilized)
     * Completely re-written Graphic User Interface for EZ file management,
       which is 300% faster than previous versions!
     * GAP, PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat!, Remote Access FILES.BBS Support.
     * Less then 1% duplication compared to The Pier Shareware 1 & 2.
     * Most current files on the market.  Over 70% dated AFTER 6/93!

                        - DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE -

     File stats for Pier 3:

     92  File   %    Apx 'K'    %        93  File   %    Apx 'K'    %
     ==  ==== =====  ======== =====      ==  ==== =====  ======== =====

      1     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       1     5  0.1%     1,708  0.3%
      2     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       2     6  0.1%     1,066  0.2%
      3     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       3    47  1.0%     5,508  0.9%
      4     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       4   501 11.0%    70,354 11.2%
      5     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       5   693 15.2%    94,210 15.0%
      6     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       6 1,244 27.4%   164,183 26.1%
      7     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       7 1,054 23.2%   156,138 24.8%
      8     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       8   572 12.6%    79,892 12.7%
      9     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       9   421  9.3%    55,188  8.8%
     10     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      10     0  0.0%         0  0.0%
     11     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      11     0  0.0%         0  0.0%
     12     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      12     0  0.0%         0  0.0%
         ---- -----  -------- -----          ---- -----  -------- -----
            0  0.0%         0  0.0%         4,543 99.9%   628,247 99.8%
         ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== =====

That's right - 72% dated newer than 6/93, and 98.4% dated newer than 4/93!
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    2-CD PACKAGE DEAL:  Buy Pier 3, and get Pier 2 for only $20 more!
   LIMITED TIME OFFER:  Buy Pier 3, and get CD Powerbox Shareware FREE!
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                 >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<
                 >>>     DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE!     <<<

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 7626
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/28/93  7:08p
Subj: NATURE GRAPHICS I                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                    Nature Graphics I CD ROM
                    ------------------------
             Distribution begins on December 8, 1993

100% ORIGINAL. This disc contains 550+ megabytes of professional
quality graphics relating to nature. Each image is an original
work which only exists on the Nature Graphics disc.

BUBBA PROOF. To use the disc, the user only needs to type GO <enter>.
No installation or configuration is required and the images may be
viewed directly from the CD ROM. Instructions for running the GO.BAT
file is clearly printed on the packaging.

BBS READY. The disc may be used on a BBS. Informative and accurate
FILES.BBS description files are included. 4DOS description files
are also included.

ROYALTY FREE. The images may be used as part of a computer based
multimedia application without prior consent or payment. 16.7M color
TGA format is included to insure high quality printing.

SHELF READY PACKAGING. All artwork associated with the disc is full
color and original, created entirely with CorelDraw. It's beautiful.
Retail boxes are available for larger accounts. All packaging includes
bar codes.

Contact us for additional information...

Data Express, Inc.       Voice: 404-621-9210
6799 Windfaire Dr.       FAX  : 404-621-9122
Norcross, GA 30093       FIDO :    1:133/515
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From: BOB HANSEN                             Number: 7627
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 11/26/93  2:21p
Subj: Re: ASIAN LADIES WARNING!!              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RL>For anyone thinking of buying this disc, it contains disgusting nasty
 RL>faggot queer gifs on it! I almost threw up.

 So what's your point.

... Open mouth, insert foot, echo internationally.
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From: STEPHEN NOBREGA                        Number: 7628
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 11/27/93  4:36p
Subj: CDROM Pricing                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RC>ADA Programming................$18.00

Hi, could I have a bit more info on this CD. Is it an ADA compiler or a
tutorial? Thanks
See Ya :^)
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From: TIM RYAN                               Number: 7629
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 11/26/93  7:07p
Subj: SCSI CDROM DRIVE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Michael Konor to All <=-

 MK> Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM For Sale

 MK>  refurbished
  

I have one of the same drives, and wonder if you could give me details on  
how to have it refurbished?  How much?  Thanks in advance.






... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: JIM LARSON                             Number: 7630
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 11/27/93  5:36p
Subj: Adult cd rom for trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>  I've got "All Beauties" adult CD Rom I would like to trade for anoth
  >  adult CD-Rom. It's a little to tame for me.

DKI don't have anything to trade, would you take $25 for it?

DK     -=> Dave <=-     Thu  11-25-1993


Ok. Send $25.00 plus $2.50 for shipping to:  Jim Larson  and its yours.
                                             810 Otis Ct.
                                             Red Bluff, Ca.
                                                        96080

Let me know if this is acceptable and I will hold it for you.



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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 7631
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 11/23/93  2:05a
Subj: Re: Adult CD sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 25 Nov 93 11:22am, Scott Raley wrote to Ken Matthews:

>     I will trade you Amatuer Models cd (adult) for the PC Pix1 cd.

Thanks Scott, Not interested in that one! Well trade for T&A 2 the Maxx
if you want.
                  Ken

Xpress Yourself

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 7632
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/27/93  6:18p
Subj: Technical Shareware                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We're now taking orders for the december editions of our technical sharweware
libraries for Visual Basic, Netware, C/C++, Widnows Utilities, OS/2 Utilities,
Xbase, ASM, TPascal, VBDOS/QBasic, Access, AutoCAD, PAradox,
Science/Engineering, etc. They'll ship around December 15 and will have files
produced by authors until about November 25. Pricing starts at 25. Call
voice:+1(301)924-3594.
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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 7633
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/27/93  7:39p
Subj: CD-ROM BB for Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Of course the distribs will know what I am up to in Jan <grin>--
 > Already getting the inquiries--We pick up the slides next week, and I
 > will say that those that like the Easyrider type magazines with the
 > beautiful babes in sexy outfits as well as nude on those Harley
 > motorcycles--Will love the release of "Women on Wheels", the first
 > disc with beautiful women and high powered machines.

I can hardly wait I used to buy the those mags just for the women. :-) I hope
you don't have any rice burners but only true motorcycles which is Harleys. :-)

 > We have 10 projects lined up for 1994--and we have migrated away from
 > the hardcore, and will specialize in famous collections instead, so
 > that we can get our products in the retail stores/malls etc--

 > Thanks for asking !

 > Hugs,

 > -=*>Lee<*=-

I can see I'm a gonna be broke in 1994. buying most if not all your cd's. :-)

                                     Mike Harris

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 7634
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 11/27/93  7:45p
Subj: ASIAN LADIES WARNING!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  RL> For anyone thinking of buying this disc, it contains disgusting
 >  RL> nasty faggot queer gifs on it! I almost threw up.

 >   Thanks for the great review.  Where/how can I purchase your review
 >   copy.  Not interested in the least in the "foggot queer" portion of
 >   this CD, but I am sure that there is much which you are unable to
 >   stomach and will be adequate for my collection.  So lets see what
 >   you are asking for this "disgusting/nasty/faggot/gueer" CD.

Max,
There is one important thing about this disc that I didn't like at all and it's
dupes, a ton of them. I used a gif cataloger on this disc and also viewed every
gif and the amount of dupes is outrageous. I printed out about 4 pages of
dupes. If I could find the makers address I'm gonna write to them and send them
the dupe list so they can't deny they exsist. I'm sorry I bought it but I'm not
gonna sell it either, I'd lose too much money.

I ingnore the gay male files, if they even have a man's name I don't evenb look
at them. :-)

                                        Mike Harris

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From: GARY SHADE                             Number: 7635
  To: MARK CROSBIE                             Date: 11/26/93  9:30p
Subj: Os/2 2.1 cd-rom for sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Overheard Mark Crosbie  to Rick Dunlap on the subject of OS/2 2.1 CD-ROM FOR
SALE

MC>->    I have OS/2 2.1 on CD-ROM for sale. This is the upgrade
MC>version. I
MC>->    requires DOS, Windows, Or OS/2 to be on the system before it
MC>will
MC>
MC>If the is a complete version. I will offer $50. plus shipping. I have
MC>seen is new for around $65. Let me know via netmail to 1:226/380 or
MC>this echo.

Egghead has OS/2 for Windows (which is what this sounds like) on CD for $49.95
- I'd expect dealers in this echo could even better this price! GS


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From: JIM ARCHER                             Number: 7636
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 11/27/93 11:24p
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices11/23/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RC> QRZ! Ham Radio.................$13.00 
RC> Source Code....................$18.50 
RC> X11/GNU........................$18.50 
RC> Space and Astronomy............$18.50 

Whats on these??? Especailly Space and Astronomy?

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From: SCOTT TRACZYK                          Number: 7637
  To: JOHN CARROLL                             Date: 11/27/93 11:03a
Subj: Re: CD caddies                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JC> For Sale I have approximately 20 new Cd caddies, were used once each
JC> Phillips Cd player $3 each or 2 for $5

John,
   Do you have some of those Cd caddies left?  If so, how much would it
   cost to buy 6 and have them shipped to Minnesota?

      Scott Traczyk
      (612)428-4642 Rogers, Mn

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From: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                       Number: 7638
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/27/93  7:03a
Subj: CD's for Sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

I have the follow CD's for sale for $10 ea plus shipping (about
$3 each):

Night Owl's 4.1
Mega CD-ROM2
Phoenix 2.0
Colossal Cookbook

These were used on my bbs and are no longer needed.
Fido 1:202/1903
Internet JCOLLING@HIGH-COUNTRY.COM
Voice 619-789-2603
BBS 619-788-0831

...Jeff...

 * WCE 1.10/2020 * If there is no God, who pops up the Kleenex?


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 7639
  To: TED MANOS                                Date: 11/27/93  3:06p
Subj: Re: Toshiba 3201 Wanted.                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>CD-ROM drives for sale.  If you still do, used/refurb'ed/new, please


Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM For Sale

156k transfer rate, 320ms access, 30 day guarantee, refurbished
unit, newest eprom installed, caddy and Toshiba Manual included.

Internal:  $185.00

or

External:  $205.00

205-837-5053

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From: DAVID HALVERSON                        Number: 7640
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/27/93 12:04a
Subj: PANISONIC CR562                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

i'm looking for a panison 562 internal double speed drive. looking to pay $200
if anyone has one give me a call
David Halverson
809 elizabeth st.
waunakee wi. 53597
608 849-7557
or you can send it first class mail whichever you prefer.
/s

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From: DAVID HALVERSON                        Number: 7641
  To: CASEY ROMANSKI                           Date: 11/27/93 12:01p
Subj: REVEAL-CDROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

where did you buy this drive from? can you get me there name and number?
i've been looking for a panasonic double speed drive.

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From: DENNIS THRUSH                          Number: 7642
  To: DOUG THRUSH                              Date: 11/29/93  6:18a
Subj: CD drive                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

When did you get a CD drive?  Oh, Thanks for the modem.  See you in the general
area.
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From: STEVEN O'BRIEN                         Number: 7643
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/25/93 11:55p
Subj: WANTED: MY PRIVATE COLLECTIO            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WANTER : MY PRIVATE COLLECTION (any vol)

Looking for the complete JRMIS**.gif(s) So if anybody has this for sale or
knows where to get a copy please me here.  Thanx ;|
Steve

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From: BARRY WEINSTEIN                        Number: 7644
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 11/26/93  7:46p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>If you are looking for great prices on the latest CD-Roms, give us a
JL>call or post your address, and we will be glad to send you our latest
JL>price list.  We also have a 44 page catalog complete with descriptions

  B. Weinstein
  P.O. Box 151
  Colmar, Pa 18915

  Thank you.

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From: RICHARD JOHNSON                        Number: 7645
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 11/28/93  2:55a
Subj: CD Rom Player                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

q
*** Quoting Pat Rickerson to Richard Johnson dated 11-26-93 ***
>  RJ> for more of these drives for awhile. Thanks.
> 
> Will do that but with out the controller card
> Pat
> 

Sounds fine to me. I'll take both for $220 with the card or 200 without the
card. Call me voice at 614-792-0465 or 614-792-7791(data) and set up the deal.
Call me soon as I have another deal going for the same drives. Thanks for your
time.

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From: RICHARD JOHNSON                        Number: 7646
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 11/28/93  3:03a
Subj: CD Rom Player                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Pat Rickerson to Richard Johnson dated 11-26-93 ***
>  RJ> for more of these drives for awhile. Thanks.
> 
> Will do that but with out the controller card
> Pat
> 

I will take them with card for $220 or without for $200. Give me a call at
614-792-0465 or 614-792-7791(data). I Assume we have a deal either way. Thanks
for the reply. (Hand Shaking) Thanks!

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 7647
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/28/93  8:36a
Subj: sound effects library                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have sound effects library on cd.  This is selling for $19 or more.  My price
is $10 + $3 P&H.  If interested, reply or call.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 7648
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/28/93  8:36a
Subj: Multimedia Audio Collection             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the Multimedia Audio Collection for sale.  One CD comes with the
following programs on it(usually on individual cd's):

Multimedia Sound studio
Sound Effects Library
World of Music Sampler
Music Mentor
Recording Session
Band in a Box
NotePlay

All on the one CD!  My price on this is $25 + $3 for P&H(thats 2-day air).
Pre-payments prefered, but if you HAVE to go COD, you cover the above price
plus the COD fee.

Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 7649
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/28/93  8:36a
Subj: Multimedia Presentation Pack            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Multimedia Presentation Pack for sale.  It combines 2 CD's into one.
It has both Macromedia Action! v2.5 and Macromedia ClipMedia v2.0 on it.
You get TONS of stuff, for under the price of a SINGLE cd.  They normally sell
individually for over $25 each, my price for the package is $20 + $3 P&H(thats
2-day air to you)... price is for pre-payment only.  If you HAVE to have COD,
you pick up that price also.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: WILLIAM WRIGHT                         Number: 7650
  To: ROBERT MOORE                             Date: 11/28/93 10:54a
Subj: cd rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RM>No, I want to buy EIGHT of them.  Affording them is not the
RM>issue, I just think that $99 a pop is more realistic then $227
RM>when you are buying eight of them!
RM>--- FastEcho 1.30/g

Oh yeah. Course you COULD by a 6-disk cd changer. They're only, oh well 2000.
But it gets a 612K transfer rate.


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From: WILLIAM WRIGHT                         Number: 7651
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/28/93 12:02p
Subj: Night Own Games                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can anyone tell me something about the CD Night Own Games.

Like:

Files.bbs compatable?
How many megs?
All games, or games and other stuff like gifs?
% of dupes?
Lowest price? (I've found it for $18.)

Thanks a lot.

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From: WILLIAM WRIGHT                         Number: 7652
  To: MICHAEL MURPHY                           Date: 11/28/93 12:14p
Subj: Night Owl's 10                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Does anyone have any information about the recall of
 > NOPV10?  Are you (or
 > anyone you know) excepting excanges for it?  I've also
 > heard about NOVP10.1,
 > it that true?
 > Any help would be appreciated,
 > Michael

It has 2 viruses on it.

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From: DANIEL URATO                           Number: 7653
  To: JOHN A. ETLING                           Date: 11/27/93  8:49a
Subj: Cdrom resellers wanted                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hmmmmm give me a call, I am a systems installer for one of the largest computer
retailers... I also sell more cd rom multimedia systems than anything else....
I broke my last months record of 78,000 in sales today!!
508-568-8785

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From: JOHNNY HUDSON                          Number: 7654
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/28/93 11:52a
Subj: Medical CD's Wanted                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi All..

I'm looking for CD-ROMs that contain medical programs/information.
Please leave info if you know of any or sell any.

Johnny


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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 7655
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 11/27/93 11:05p
Subj: Re: ASIAN LADIES WARNING                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

A life form named KEVIN beamed aboard the Enterprise and said:

KP>On 22 Nov 93  10:51:00, I heard Ronald Leon shout to All:

RL> For anyone thinking of buying this disc, it contains disgusting nast
RL> faggot queer gifs on it! I almost threw up.

KP>Faggot Queer Meaning MEN ??  If so, why bother calling it Asian Ladies
KP>???

YES..  men!

KP>  Don't make sense to me...

Me neither, there was about five of them in the B directory.

Ron in Tampa
73163.124@compuserve.com
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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 7656
  To: RON YOUNG                                Date: 11/27/93 11:08p
Subj: ASIAN LADIES WARNING!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

A life form named RON beamed aboard the Enterprise and said:

RY>In a message dated 22-Nov-93 10:51:00, Ronald Leon wrote:

 RL> For anyone thinking of buying this disc, it contains disgusting nas
 RL> faggot queer gifs on it! I almost threw up.

RY>I take it you don't like this CD.  To avoid further sickness I will offe
RY>$25.00 for this CD, shipped.

RY>If interested leave me an address and I will send you payment.

Thanks Ron but I already sold it locally. I should have waited since I only
got $20 for it.

Ron in Tampa
73163.124@compuserve.com
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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 7657
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 11/27/93 11:08p
Subj: Asian Ladies Warning!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

A life form named SCOTT beamed aboard the Enterprise and said:

SR>Well if you want to get it off your hands, I am willing to buy it
SR>from you for $12 shipped.


Sorry, sold it locally.

Ron in Tampa
73163.124@compuserve.com
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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 7658
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 11/27/93 11:09p
Subj: ASIAN LADIES WARNING!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

A life form named MAX beamed aboard the Enterprise and said:

 RL> For anyone thinking of buying this disc, it contains disgusting
 RL> nasty faggot queer gifs on it! I almost threw up.

MG>  Thanks for the great review.  Where/how can I purchase your review
MG>  copy.  Not interested in the least in the "foggot queer" portion of

Sorry, sold it locally.

Ron in Tampa
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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 7659
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 11/28/93  9:42a
Subj: ASIAN LADIES WARNING!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

A life form named GENE beamed aboard the Enterprise and said:

RL>For anyone thinking of buying this disc, it contains disgusting nasty
RL>faggot queer gifs on it! I almost threw up.

GE>   But did you have any strong opinions about the disk?

<grin>






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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 7660
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 11/28/93  9:49a
Subj: LESS TALK/MORE $$$                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

A life form named RON beamed aboard the Enterprise and said:

RD>Hi G.Larry,

 > There seems to be a lot of chat going on here that has nothing to do
 > with buying/selling CD-ROM stuff...could you step in and slap some
 > wrists? Thank you...

RD>          Including THAT message.......Whoops,

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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 7661
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/28/93  9:54a
Subj: NEW WINDOWS & GAMES CD'S                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

A life form named MIKE beamed aboard the Enterprise and said:

MS>          ________________________________________________________
MS>         |                                                        |
MS>         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #2:  TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES   |
MS>         |________________________________________________________|

MS>                         > = new since last posting

MS> WINDOWS COLLECTION * A Windows-only CD with ALL '93 file dates! BBS....

MIke, this is my THIRD request to you for more info on this disc! One was on
compuserve. Do you want to sell me one or not? How many megs on the disk?
Are they really all 1993 programs?

Ron in Tampa
73163.124@compuserve.com
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From: CASEY ROMANSKI                         Number: 7662
  To: DAVID HALVERSON                          Date: 11/28/93  6:14p
Subj: REVEAL-CDROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

--> Casey Romanski Quotes a message written by David Halverson
--> to Casey Romanski on 11-27-93 12:01 saying:
DH> where did you buy this drive from? can you get me there name a
DH> number?
DH> i've been looking for a panasonic double speed drive.
DH> 

It was purchased at Software Ect. in Denton,Tx. The MFG. is Revel or that's the
name on the box, the drive is a Panasonic CR 563 and it ran $199.00. 

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From: SAM BECKWITH                           Number: 7663
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/28/93  6:46p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DFW Discount Electronics    CD-ROM Price List  Orders: 800-829-0331
 Ship to USA ONLY. 11/28/93 BBS: 214-259-4188  Local : 214-254-0331

9000 Sounds.....................................>BBS Ready   $22.00
Hobbes OS/2 Archives 10/93......................>BBS Ready   $16.00
Monster Media 93 Volume 2.......................>BBS Ready   $26.00
Night Owl 10....................................>BBS Ready   $28.00
Night Owl Games.................................>BBS Ready   $19.00
Night Owl Graghics..............................>BBS Ready   $24.00
Pier 3 Shareware................................>BBS Ready   $26.00
Shareware April 1993............................>BBS Ready   $10.00
Shareware Explorer 4 CD Combo...................>BBS Ready   $39.00
Simtel 10/93....................................>BBS Ready   $16.00
So Much Shareware 3.............................>BBS Ready   $22.00
Software Vault Gold Collection..................>BBS Ready   $19.00
Business Assistant..............................>Business    $15.00
Business Master 3rd Edition.....................>Business    $18.00
King's Quest V..................................>Games/Enter $18.00
King's Quest VI.................................>Games/Enter $22.00
Loom............................................>Games/Enter $19.00
Secret of Monkey Island.........................>Games/Enter $22.00
Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe.................>Games/Enter $22.00
PC-SIG World of Windows.........................>General     $19.00
Clipart Warehouse...............................>Graphics &  $14.00
Desktop Publishers Dream Disk...................>Graphics &  $25.00
GIFs Galore.....................................>Graphics &  $15.00
Kodak Photo CD Access Software (Windows)........>Graphics &  $15.00
Publisher's Powerhouse..........................>Graphics &  $22.00
Family Doctor...................................>Health      $19.00
Mayo Clinic Family Health (Mac-OEM).............>Health      $21.00
Mayo Clinic Family Health (Windows-OEM).........>Health      $21.00
Programmers ROM.................................>Programming $18.00
Source CD-ROM...................................>Programming $19.00
Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia 1994 (Windows>Reference   $66.00
Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia 6.0.............>Reference   $39.00
Microsoft Bookshelf 93 for Windows (OEM)........>Reference   $45.00
Microsoft Encarta 1994 (Boxed)..................>Reference   $86.00
ProPhone National Edition Mid-Year 1993 (7 disc.>Reference   $86.00
Dictionary of the Living World (OEM)............>Science &   $28.00
Dinosaur Adventure (OEM)........................>Science &   $27.00
Dinosaurs! The Multimedia Encyclopedia (Windows)>Science &   $23.00
Microsoft Multimedia Dinosaurs (Windows-Boxed)..>Science &   $57.00
National Geographics Mammals (OEM)..............>Science &   $23.00
San Diego Zoo Presents...The Animals (DOS-OEM)..>Science &   $21.00
San Diego Zoo Presents...The Animals (MPC Window>Science &   $21.00
Encyclopedia of Sound...........................>Sound/Music $13.00
MIDI Music Shop for Windows.....................>Sound/Music $18.00
 Call me for a complete price list.  Thanks, Sam

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From: PAUL LAUGHLIN                          Number: 7664
  To: MARCIAL MORENO                           Date: 11/28/93  1:10p
Subj: Cd-rom disc's for sale.                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >                               VISA / MASTER CARD
 >              ORDERS (800) MEGA-ROM / QUESTIONS (310)

 >   **** All prices INCLUDE 1st CLASS SHIPPING and
 > HANDLING in the USA ****
 >             **** 3 or More CD's Second Day Delivery
 > Included ****
 >                       CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS ADD 8.25%
 > TAX

 >              VISA / MASTER CARD, Check or Money orders
 > to:
 >           Mon-Fri 5p - 10p PST           Sat-Sun  9a -
 > 9p PST

 >                           Mega-ROM SoftWare
 >                           13724 Saranac Dr.
 >                           Whittier, CA  90605-4229

 >            Orders (800) MEGA-ROM  /  Questions: (310)
 > 941-8074


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 > 944-2327 (1:103/304)
Do you have Pier 3?  If you do please give me a price... Thank You..  Paul
Laughlin  1:116/110

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From: PAUL LAUGHLIN                          Number: 7665
  To: BYRON KROHN                              Date: 11/28/93  1:15p
Subj: CD-ROM Drive For Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Mitsumi LU002S CD-ROM drive, interface card, cables &
 > software for sale.
 > I will guarantee the unit to work upon arrival. $70.00
 > including
 > shipping. Drop me a note here, or contact me at:6712
 > Breezy Pass,
 > Austin, TX 78749, (512) 288-4867.
If it WILL run under OS/2 I will be interested...   What is the speed on that? 
 Thank You...  Either send message to 1:116/110 or reply here...    Thank
You...   Paul Laughlin

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From: PAUL LAUGHLIN                          Number: 7666
  To: MARK CROSBIE                             Date: 11/28/93  1:25p
Subj: OS/2 2.1                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Anyone have OS/2 v2.1 on CD-Rom for sale.
 > Reply here, or via netmail. Lets deal.
I sell NEW OS/2 2.1 cd's for $100 Un-opened.   If interested please respond
here or NetMail me at 1:116/110
                            PAul Laughlin

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From: PAUL LAUGHLIN                          Number: 7667
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/28/93  1:30p
Subj: CD-ROM Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a SLOW?? CD-ROM Drive to run on my BBS  I already have one
running w/ speed all this will be for is files...  It has to be compatible with
OS/2  And as cheap as possible...   Thank You...  Paul Laughlin  1:116/110

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From: GARY KIMBRELL                          Number: 7668
  To: CHRIS CONKLIN                            Date: 11/28/93  6:34a
Subj: RE: Adult Super Deal!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Seedy Six Pac  with over 29,000 gif's plus hundreds of text files.
> 
> This 6 CD set comes factory shrink wrapped with offical seal.
> 
> Complete set including shipping anywhere in the U.S. is only $99.00
> (While supply lasts)

Do you do plastic? 

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From: MICHAEL COLLIER                        Number: 7669
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 11/28/93 12:03a
Subj: Cdrom Systems                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S **************
BO>Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00  Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SC
BO>NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare   - $379.00  NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SC
BO>Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $249.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SC
BO>Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $739.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1169.  -SC
BO>Texel Int 245ms w/ctl   - $369.00  Texel Ext 245ms Bare  - $469.00 -SC
BO>Texel Int 3021 Bare  Dr - $189.00  Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SC
BO>Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $389.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SC



  Hi Boris, can you get the NEC 38 portable 2x speed drive and, if so, at 
what price? Don't need an interface. . . 

 thanx

Michael



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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 7670
  To: LYNNDEL HUMPHREYS                        Date: 11/24/93  7:13a
Subj: CATALOGUE                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LH> I would be interested ib the catalogue mentioned in 
 LH> your message. I also travel (by-pass Chattanooga 
 LH> occasionally. Do you have an address I might 
 LH> request the catalogue ?
 
You cmay download our catalog from the BBS entitled PCJCDS.ZIP.  It has some of
the beest prices around and lots and lots of descriptions.  Node 1 is
615-478-2890 HST or 615-479-1047 14400.

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 7671
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/26/93 10:47p
Subj: CD's 4-Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                      S A Y L O R   E N T E R P R I S E S
                          ( 3 1 7 )   8 8 1 - 9 3 9 1
                SHIPPING AND HANDLING CHARGE IS $4.00 PER ORDER

9000 SOUNDS
     500 Megabytes of sound files for Sound Blaster, Midi, WAV, Adlib, PC
     Speaker, and etc.  Many utilities and players.

AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONE DIRECTORY with ZIP+ (set)  - - - $24.00
     The American Business Phone Book and the new 9 digit Zip Code Directory.
     Add Zip +4 to all your mailing.

AMERICAN VISTA ATLAS (MPC for Windows only) - - - $25.00
     Maps, photos, and facts for each of the states.  All cross referenced to
     the 1990 census.

ARTHUR'S TEACHER TROUBLE (MPC for Windows only) - - - $23.00
     This an MPC educational disc with music and animation. Very well done.  
 
BIBLES AND RELIGION - - - $14.00
     Includes all the popular version of both the OLD and NEW testament, the
     Book of Mormans, Lexicons and Concordances.  Has study guides and more.

CLIP ART GOLIATH - - - $14.00
     Over 11,000 image files in PCX and TIF formats.  Also includes some in
     color TIF/PCX, MAC, and GIF formats. Many subjects.

COLORMAGIC PC/MAC - - - $22.00
     Over 600 Megs of 3D COLOR clip art.  Royalty free. Windows and MAC
     librarian.

DICTIONARIES AND LANGUAGES - - - $14.00
     A giant compilation of dictionaries, thesauruses, word processors, style
     checkers, glossaries, cross references and much more.

DINOSAUR ADVENTURES - - - $20.00
     Get you dinosaur adventure started today with this fun CD.  Over 40
     Dinosaurs, facts, figures, stats, video and audio.

DR. GAMES  - - - $15.00
     Adventure, arcade, card, sports, strategy, puzzles and more.  BBS ready.

DR. MUSIC  - - - $15.00
     Music editors, MOD, MIDI, Sound Cards, ROL, VOC, WAV and more.  BBS ready

DR. WINDOWS  - - - $15.00
     3,440 files of everything you need in windows format.  BBS ready.

ENCYCLOPEDIA OF CLIP ART - - - $19.00
     11,000 files.  51 directories.  500 Megs of BBS ready software. New color
     clips.  65 adult clips.  Has keyword search.

ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUND - - - $14.00
     Sound effects, voices, music clips, full length scores, digitally 

GAMES 1993 - - - $22.00
     6,000 plus game files.  Over 500 Megs.  Files as recent as April 1993.
     Includes sports, arcade, casino, solutions, and more.

GARDENING  - - - $14.00
     Help for the home gardener.  Photos, planning, care, landscaping tips and
     other helpfull information.  Also has clipart section.

HACKER CHRONICLES  - - - $18.00
     Tour of the computer Underground.  Disc was 12 years in the making.

HOUSE OF GAMES - - - $15.00
     Hundreds of exciting action, adventure and suspense games.  90% can play
     from CD.

LAN MASTER  - - - $20.00
     Over 1,000 progarams and references for network users. Utilities, 
     patches,
     multiplayer games, communications, and etc.

MONSTER MEDIA '93 - - - $22.00
     1993 update for Jan, Feb, Mar, and April 1993.  Disc is published three
     times a year with over 400 megs of new files.  1993 files. No duplicates.

MULTIMEDIA ANIMALS ENCYCLOPEDIA (MPC for Windows only) - - - $25.00
     Comprehensive reference to over 2,000 birds, fish, mammals, and reptiles
     on one easy to use CD.

NIGHT OWL 10 - - - $28.00
     This disk is loaded with Shareware programs.  The Night Owl series of 

NIGHT OWL GAMES  - - - $18.00
     Most current and popular games from some of the leading games writers.
     Has full search and retrieve function. Two thirds of the games are 1993
     releases.

NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS  - - - $23.00
     600 Megabytes of GIF files.  4,600 files are on this disc.  Has full
     search and retrieve functions.  BBS ready.

PHOTO CD (Kodak) - - - $16.00
     Access software to Photo CD.  Kodak for DOS.

PIER 3  - - - $25.00
     640 Megabytes of new shareware in the Pier standard of excellence. This
     release has a newly designed, high performance interface.  BBS ready.

PRECISION MAPPING - - - $69.00
     Street mapping program that also allows you to cut & paste, intergrate,
     print, search, and calculate mileage. Includes phone book.

PROPHONE (3 Disc Set) - - - $25.00
     1992 closeout of the residential and business editions.

PROPHONE BUSINESS DIRECTORY 1993 - - - $26.00
     The business disk of the Profone set.  Lookup by S.I.C. code, name,
     number, etc.  Prints mailing labels.

PUBLISHERS PARADISE (with manual) - - - $19.00
     Over 1,000 clip art images of PROFESSIONAL QUALITY for Windows, Word
     Perfect, etc.  Includes 150 fonts.

SHAREWARE 93 (volume 2) - - - $20.00
     Excellent shareware disc of over 5,000 files.  It has 620 Megs of mostly
     1993 files.  BBS ready.

SHAREWARE EXPLORER (4 disc set)  - - - $35.00
     26,000 files are on this set.  It is a complete colection with 3 volumes
     of DOS files and 7,000 windows files.  BBS ready.


  If there is something that you don't see here call, Or leave me a Note...

                        .....|<evin

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From: JOE HOUCHENS                           Number: 7672
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 11/27/93  1:04a
Subj: CD Rom Player                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Pat whats the numbers on the cd/rom players....are they 3500 series
  how many hours on the cd's  were they personel use..or bbs cd-roms?


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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 7673
  To: CANADIAN CD PURCHASERS                   Date: 11/28/93  2:29p
Subj: Hobbes OS/2 & others                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Greetings:

We have the lastest versions of the following available:

        Hobbes OS/2 :           $21.00 $CDN
        Kings Quest VI:          49.00 $CDN
        PsL December 1993 :      29.95 $CDN -- Over 600 New programs +
                                               about 2000 programming
                                               files from PsL!

Over 700 Titles available for Canadian CD-ROM Users at Canada's Best
Prices!  Call 9 - 5 EST., Mon-Fri.

HRB Computer Services, Toronto

(905) 882-4295 / Canadian orders: 1-800-265-7081 / Fax: (905) 882-5043

Internet:  hayden.bradshaw@canrem.com
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From: LORI SMITH                             Number: 7674
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/27/93  9:19a
Subj: Cc2 Bbs Ready Directories               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR*>>  *** TERRY BLOUNT'S NEW BBS READY NOVEMBER RELEASE CREAM OF THE CROP II**
JR*>>                  SYSOPS PRICE $25.50 / OUR USER FEE $28.50
JR*>     We thought you'd be interested in a directory structure of this new
JR*>release to assist in your decision to buy this GUARANTEED DISC from
JR*>config.sys, Inc. which can be downloaded or FReq from 1:157/479@fido or we
JR*>will send this at our expense along with our entire CDLIST, if you just ask

        Hello again Joe...
I am interested in taking a peek at CC2.  I have had the So Much series
on my BBS and than the Monster Disk 1992 and am looking to update
my shareware.  I am in need of a good BBS ready disk... and/or
a 2 disk set.  I am interested in taking a look at the files list
off of CC2.  What is the name to FREQ?
                        +Lori+
                        1:231/610

 * OLX 2.1 * SYSOP:  The one laughing at your typing! :-)

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From: MIKE STEFFEN                           Number: 7675
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/28/93  7:18p
Subj: Educational CD's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Educational shareware CD
BY: Hayden Bradshaw (1:229/15)

>If you'd like, I will send you our current price listing with Full
>Description of most of our 700+ CDs.  We're located in Toronto, so you
>can count on us to get you your CDs hassle-free.
>
>Please include your address in this conference or dial up our modem at

end a catalog to...
Mike Steffen
1517 Bertch Ave.
Waterloo, IA 50702

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From: RONALD GOODWIN                         Number: 7676
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/28/93  8:04p
Subj: Encyclopedia                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Was wondering if anyone has ever seen a Encyclopedia BBS Ready CD out yet?


Ron

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From: STEPHEN LOCHMILLER                     Number: 7677
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/27/93  7:58a
Subj: CD CATALOGS NEEDED NEW BB               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dear Commercial CD Providers:

I am setting up a BBS in Sacramento California which will have 24 CD's 
active via 4x6packs.  Need to be able to put up a variety of disc's for
users.  Please provide me with a catalog of your products.

All Areas Of Interest Please Respond.

Have particular need for Survival, Gun, Ammo interests but I am having a
hard time finding any CD's covering those topics.


Stephen Lochmiller
4515 Midas Ave.
Rocklin, CA  95677

... "Could you continue your petty bickering? I find it most intriguing."
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 7678
  To: J. ALLEN                                 Date: 11/28/93  2:51p
Subj: Re: $25 QUOTE IN QUESTION               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >MC> Although Mike Shannon's service has always been fast, and his prices are
 >MC> good - this experience has soured me a bit on buying from StarVector in
 >the
 >MC> future.  His refusal to honor the price by claiming he never saw it is
 >not
 >MC> much different from him calling me a liar.

 >He also refused to honor a competitor's price that he himself posted.  I
 >believe his defense was since he was posting bogus pricing, he didn't have
 >to honor those prices either.

What's particularly lame in my situation though, is that he agreed to the
price when I ordered via (voice) phone.  I feel that if he has any qualms
about honoring a particular price, he ought to refuse to take the order at
that time, or tell the customer he will research it and call them back.

Instead, he simply charged me a price HIGHER than we agreed on, and I
didn't find out until after I got the disc in the mail.  This creates a
hassle for the customer, even though he is the wrongdoer making an
unauthorized charge on the customer's Visa card.

Michael Crosson







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From: CHRIS MAI                              Number: 7679
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/27/93  3:19p
Subj: CD-ROM /Mortal Kombat for PC            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey everyone!!!
Mortal Kombat - $39.99

Brand new internal CD-ROMs
280ms access rate
300 k/sec transfer rate
$225
For other hardware/software prices send e-mail to
Chris Mai
The BIG house BBS
1:260/815
or call the Big house BBS at 733-1537
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From: STEVE DARCHICOURT                      Number: 7680
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 11/27/93  9:56p
Subj: Re: Toshiba 3401b wanted                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have exactly what your looking for. I have 8 of the Toshiba drives here
and was just getting ready to buy a Camcorder. I'd be willing to trade one for
it.
My BBS number is 1-717-258-5137 and can be accessed 24 hours. Leave me a note
and we'll work
something out.
        Steve Darchicourt



... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: DAVID WANDSCHNEIDER                    Number: 7681
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/28/93  9:10p
Subj: CD-Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ok, all you CD-Rom experts.  One question.  Tell me what the best Internal
CD-Rom is.  How much it should cost.  Whether or not it comes with a controller
card.  How much I should have to pay for the controller card.  What's the story
on the Triple spin verses the double spin.  Who has a new one for sale with all
the goodies, i.e. all mounting hardware, cables, controller card, and can get
me a real good deal.
I'll be anxiously awaiting your responses.

Dave

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 7682
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/28/93  9:11a
Subj: Changes                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

New BBS # 1-206-761-0181
 
Our BBS is on-line 24hr/7day

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 7683
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/28/93  9:14a
Subj: New Catalog                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Our new catalog and monthly specials are about to be mailed. If you like to
receive our catalogs, please contact us via netmail, fax or postal service.
 
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd.
Tacoma, WA 98409
 
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX 

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From: AUDIE VICKERS                          Number: 7684
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/27/93 10:41p
Subj: ***CD-ROM Catalog offer**               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Joe,
  Send Catalog to:

  Audie Vickers
  3682 Late Morning Circle
  Kissimmee, Fl.  34744

  Thanks in advance.

 * OLX 2.2 * To get back on your feet, miss 2 car payments...


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 7685
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 11/28/93  1:28p
Subj: Women On Wheels                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <11-27-93 19:39> Michael Harris wrote:

MH>> I can hardly wait I used to buy the those mags just for the women.
MH>> :-) I hope you don't have any rice burners but only true motorcycles
MH>> which is Harleys. :-)

Hmmmmm, good question--The first motorcyle I bought for myself was a Kaw
440LTD-Being that I am only 5'2'', didn't so much concern myself with the
thought of owning a 'Rice Burner' as I was the possibility of landing in the
'Rice Patch' <grin>. From what I am seeing from the calenders, they appear to
be Harleys (vintage ones etc). We are picking up the slides Tues, about the
time you read this message, and I will be able to release alot more info on the
contents of the disc, and types of bikes.

MH>> I can see I'm a gonna be broke in 1994. buying most if not all your
MH>> cd's. :-)

Thanks for the support ! We made the decision to venture in other directions,
and we to are glad that so many months don't have to pass before a new release
hits the market. So much product is going to flood the market in 1994 from
everywhere, and we know we are going to bring an angle to the market that does
not currently exist. We think the "Women On Wheels" is gonna be a real neat
disc, and refreshing for the new world of licensed collections CD's--One other
thing I do know, there will be more images on this disc than there were on BB V
II.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 7686
  To: GREG MUNDA                               Date: 11/28/93  1:32p
Subj: age                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <11-25-93 12:19> Greg Munda wrote:

GM>> Hmmmm, a 37 year old woman with a computer and lots of CD'S??? I may
GM>> have to send your my resume !!!!

<grin> with warm fuzzies.

GM>> Best luck with your adventures...you produce them and I'll buy
GM>> them!!!

Deal !

Hugs Babe,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: BOB DEUTCH                             Number: 7687
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/27/93 11:05p
Subj: Hot Pix                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Are you interested in any Hot Pix(Windy City) disks??

I have a few 3 pack sets of Hot Pix Volumes 3,4 & 5 left.

I am asking $85 per set with shipping included.

reply here or Netmail at 1:369/147

Bob


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From: WISE GUY                               Number: 7688
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 11/28/93 12:28p
Subj: Distributer wanted                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Hayden...  I was looking for a good wholesaler to buy from..  Can you
send me a list of cd software and if you have a demo disk..  I have alot
of contacts in South Florida and need a dependable wholesaler..
                    Ira Zeldes
                   11929 NW 2 Manor
              Coral Springs Fl 33071


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From: G. LARRY WEBB                          Number: 7689
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 11/27/93  4:35p
Subj: MULTIMEDIA PRESENTATION PACK            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll take one of the Macromedia Action! & ClipMedia CDs for $20 plus $3
shipping.... please post me your address and I'll send a check. Or call me in
NC at 919 929 8761 if necessary.... Thanks...

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From: PAUL LAUGHLIN                          Number: 7690
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/28/93  7:40p
Subj: BUY PIER3 GET A CD FREE!                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hey Mike....  What's up?   I am interested in you're Pier 3/ Free CD...  If you
can ship this COD I will want to oredr it.  If not please respond and I'll see
what I can do. Please respond at 1:116/110.   Thank You.   Paul Laughlin

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From: DICK WALSH                             Number: 7691
  To: TED MANOS                                Date: 11/28/93  8:29a
Subj: RE: NEW CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I had the pleasure of talking with Boris on the phone last night.  I told
him that I thought he should publish his catalog here on this echo.
He did take the time to talk to me about the purchase of the CD's
I did not want to compound what I was purchasing and get a lot of duplicates.  
Rest asssured I will do business with him and he does
take credit cards.  I really prefer this system and the use of an 800
number.   He will be hearing from me again.

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From: JEFF HUBERT                            Number: 7692
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 11/27/93 10:19p
Subj: games and cd-roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

$31 sounds good, it all depends though on where you live for shipping costs. I
can send it UPS C.O.D. or UPS if you send me the money first.
You would probly prefer C.O.D, so then it depends where you live. Is UPS ground
fast enough or do you want 2-day or next-day which would cost slightly more.
Call me at (410) 442-2726 and we can work out a deal, or just respond to this
message. If you meant 2-day or faster delivery then I will have to see. I am
willing to bargain, so call me or respond please! thanks

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From: JEFF HUBERT                            Number: 7693
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/27/93 10:11p
Subj: games and cd-roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Carbon Copy:
 * Original message to ALL in the For Sale - B conference.

I have the following games and cd-roms for sale.
All products have original manuals, disks, boxes, and are in excellent 
condition. Prices are negotiable. Buy more than one product and I'll give 
you a discount. Call (410) 442-2726 

Product                     | Disk size   |Price | Description
___-------------------------|-------------|------|------------------------
Front Page Sports Football  | 3.5+update  | $29  | Best football game, with
                            |             |      | update disk
Tetris(includes tetris TSR) | both        | $10  | tetris
Heart of China(256 color)   | 3.5         | $20  | good adventure game
Kings Quest 5(256 color)    | 3.5         | $25  | Highly acclaimed adventure 
Simcity                     | both        | $20  | create,manage your own city
Lemmings                    | 5.25        | $20  | fun strategy game
Action Sports soccer        | 3.5         | $19  | cool soccer game
Mike Ditka Ultimate football| 5.25        | $20  | 256 color football game
Ultima 7:The Black Gate     | 3.5         | $25  | very good RPG game
Wing Commander              | 3.5         | $15  | like X-wing, fly in space 
Star Control 2              | 3.5         | $29  | space RPG, adventure, action
Shareware Extravaganza      | 4 CD-ROM'S!!| $29  | 2 gig of shareware
Phoenix 4.0                 | CD-ROM      | $15  | NEW!!
Americas Premier Shareware  | CD-ROM      | $15  | "All new for 1993!!"
7th Guest                   | 2 CD-ROM's  | $35  | Great adventure, 
                                                   puzzle game with 
                                                   "The making of 7th Guest" 
                                                   video.

___
 X SPEED 1.30 [NR] X No, no, Clinton... I said "FAX me"... not "TAX me"!!!

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From: IRA WILSKER                            Number: 7694
  To: JEAN-LOUIS BONTRONT                      Date: 11/26/93  1:49p
Subj: Educational shareware CD                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JB>Is there any such thing as a CD with _mostly_ educational shareware on
  >it?  I run an educational oriented BBS.  I know that most CD have an
  >educational shareware section.  I'm looking for one that concentrates on
  >this.  Any thoughts?



Look at EDUCATION MASTER.  I have volumes 1 and 2 I purchased.  
They were very low cost, and full of educational programs.  I am sure 
that the vendors online here have copies.
___
 X QMPro 1.51 X License Plate Frame:  My other auto is a .45!
                   
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7695
  To: ERIC HO                                  Date: 11/28/93 12:22a
Subj: Re: Hobbes 10/93??                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Hi Boris,

>>       Did you receive our new CD title release?

>>       * Dr. Windows - Genuine      500+ MB
>>       * Dr. Games for DOS          Top 60 best games
>>       * Dr. Games for Windows      150+ ready to play games
>>       * Dr. Shareware - Gold       620+ MB

No, not yet .... !!

Boris Osadciw

... A woman drove me to drink and I never even had the courtesy to thank her.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7696
  To: CHRIS WOOD                               Date: 11/28/93 12:22a
Subj: Re: Hobbes 10/93??                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Boris Osadciw wrote in a message to Chris Wood:

BO>> There has been no word yet as to when it will be out.

BO>> When it does come out, I'am sure you'll see a ton of
BO>> messages posted saying they have the cd in stock. I'am sure
BO>> the wait will be worth it as I have yet to see any cd out
BO>> that is any good in the OS/2 department, other than one put
BO>> out by "Profit Press" almost a year ago.

>>    Thanks Boris!!  I assumed it was out and a Toronto CD
>>    wholesaler who advertises in here told me they had it and I
>>    was going to order it on Monday!  You probably saved me from
>>    getting the 06/93 which I already have..

>>    Keep me posted.

>>    Take care...

Chris, we now have the new Hobbes OS/2 in stock !!

Please feel free to give us a call at 800-243-0517 anytime and we'll
be happy to ship you a copy.

Chat with you soon...

Boris Osadciw

... Xpress Yourself!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7697
  To: DAVID HEPKIN                             Date: 11/28/93 12:22a
Subj: Re: Pioneer 600A's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I'm looking for a Pioneer 600A, extremly cheap.  I heard they
>>    were being discontinued, so if anyone out there has a new or
>>    used Pioneer 600, please leave me a note!  Thanks!!!
>>            David Hepkin

Give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and I'am sure we can help.

Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7698
  To: TOM ROSETTI                              Date: 11/28/93  1:12a
Subj: Re: Hot Pix                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Looking for any one of the Hot Pix CD's.  Anyone selling? If
>>    so, how much?

>>    advTHANXance,

Yes we do Tom, if your interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263
and I'am sure we can help you out.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't Read Mail Without it!
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7699
  To: J MERTZ                                  Date: 11/27/93  3:24p
Subj: Amatuer Models                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Yes I still have it.  Send a check, money order, or cash for $29 and I will
ship it via 2nd day mail.
 
thanks
Scott Raley
Box 76 Curley Rd
Ridge, MD 20680-0076

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7700
  To: JOHN PIERCE                              Date: 11/27/93  3:25p
Subj: Cd-Rom Bb For Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well I will send you a check for $25 for busty babes, the $25 includes shipping
via priority mail.  I will prepay.  Please send me an address.
 
Thanks
Scott

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From: JIM ROBBINS                            Number: 7701
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 11/26/93  9:40p
Subj: Cdrom Pricing-walnut crk                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Re: Cdrom Pricing-walnut crk
 
>  DT>      Would it be possible for you to send out a catalog for me to look 
> It's on the way 
>  
> ___ 
>  * OFFLINE 1.56 

please send me a catalog also:
jim robbins 
4910 nw 83 terr
lauderhill, fl 33351

thanks in advance!

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From: CARL MONTANTE                          Number: 7702
  To: GRANT FLEMING                            Date: 11/28/93  2:51p
Subj: CD-Disk For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Grant,
 
 I tried calling the number you gave me in your last message.
There has been no answer all weekend. What is a good time to contact
you?


 
                                  Carl
 
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 7703
  To: KAWAI WONG                               Date: 11/25/93  1:45a
Subj: CD Rom Player                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Kawai!

Wednesday November 24 1993, Kawai Wong writes to Pat Rickerson:


 ->> Have 2 Hitachi CD Rom Players for sale with controller, cable and soft
 ->> ware $250 obo  for all!

 KW>    What model are they??  Are they SCSI drives??  Internal or External??
 KW> Speed and thoughtput??  Thanx. -+- * LocalTag 1.0 * Oh freddled

They are slower ones won't run that 7th guest game really don't know how fast.
They are the 3500 models and comes with thier own controller card. Also are
internal. Husband has 6 of these on his BBS and he thinks they are great :)


Pat

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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 7704
  To: DENNIS WRIGHT                            Date: 11/21/93  6:47p
Subj: 'R' rated Adult CD-ROM                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DW> An 'R' rated CD-ROM that showcases topless dancing clubs from all over the
DW> US. Contains thousands of GIFs containing some of the most beautiful women

Any from "Good Guys" in Washington, DC? <g>


 * SLMR 2.1a * Next: Curious George And The Hefty Lawn-And-Leaf Bag


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From: ED WILLIAMS                            Number: 7705
  To: KEVIN MARTIN                             Date: 11/24/93  4:07p
Subj: Phillips CD- ROM                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

They are The CM212...
  SCSI drive...
   -Ed Williams


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From: MARK CROSBIE                           Number: 7706
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/24/93  6:09p
Subj: OS/2 2.1                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone have OS/2 v2.1 on CD-Rom for sale.
Reply here, or via netmail. Lets deal.


Mark


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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 7707
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/25/93  1:18p
Subj: sound effects library                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have sound effects library on cd.  This is selling for $19 or more.  My price
is $10 + $3 P&H.  If interested, reply or call.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 7708
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/25/93  1:27p
Subj: Multimedia Audio Collection             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the Multimedia Audio Collection for sale.  One CD comes with the
following programs on it(usually on individual cd's):

Multimedia Sound studio
Sound Effects Library
World of Music Sampler
Music Mentor
Recording Session
Band in a Box
NotePlay

All on the one CD!  My price on this is $25 + $3 for P&H(thats 2-day air).
Pre-payments prefered, but if you HAVE to go COD, you cover the above price
plus the COD fee.

Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 7709
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/25/93  1:33p
Subj: Multimedia Presentation Pack            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Multimedia Presentation Pack for sale.  It combines 2 CD's into one.
It has both Macromedia Action! v2.5 and Macromedia ClipMedia v2.0 on it.
You get TONS of stuff, for under the price of a SINGLE cd.  They normally sell
individually for over $25 each, my price for the package is $20 + $3 P&H(thats
2-day air to you)... price is for pre-payment only.  If you HAVE to have COD,
you pick up that price also.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 7710
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/24/93  9:38p
Subj: Encyclopedia for sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Software Toolworks Multimedia (MPC) Encyclopedia for sale
For use with Windows....full motion video, sound
very nice (CD)
20.00 includes shipping (ver. 1.0)

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 7711
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/24/93  9:41p
Subj: catalogs wanted                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone selling CD's
please send catalogs to:
Jeff Jenkins
1435 N. Tamarisk
Chandler, AZ. 85224
thanks

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From: CASEY ROMANSKI                         Number: 7712
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/25/93  4:44p
Subj: REVEAL-CDROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

--> Casey Romanski Quotes a message written by Mike Shannon
--> to Dan Eick on 11-24-93 01:37 saying:
MS> DE>I just bought a Reveal cdrom drive #cdd02 for $199.99.
MS> DE>Double speed
MS> DE>multi session photo cd
MS> DE>connects to soundblaster pro, 16
MS> DE>320ms access time
MS> DE>300kb data transfer
MS> 
MS> Sounds like a Panasonic 563 clone.  Good drive!
MS> 

It's not a clone. It IS a Panasonic 563!
MS> ---
MS> 
MS> (1:3407/101)
MS> 

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From: CASEY ROMANSKI                         Number: 7713
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/25/93  4:50p
Subj: CC2 bbs ready directories               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

--> Casey Romanski Quotes a message written by Joe Rinehart
--> to All on 11-24-93 03:00 saying:
JR> >  *** TERRY BLOUNT'S NEW BBS READY NOVEMBER RELEASE CREAM OF 
JR> II***
JR> >                  SYSOPS PRICE $25.50 / OUR USER FEE $28.50
JR>      We thought you'd be interested in a directory structure o
JR> new
JR> release to assist in your decision to buy this GUARANTEED DISC 
JR> from
JR> config.sys, Inc. which can be downloaded or FReq from 1:157/47

Sure would be nice to have a magic name to FREQ or ANY name!

JR> we
JR> will send this at our expense along with our entire CDLIST, if
JR> ask:-)
JR>      The staff of config.sys, Inc.  believes this to be the gr
JR> BBS
JR> READY disc ever -- The Greatest Thing Since "Mike's Place" Mam
JR> Peanut
JR> Butter Pie!  To order, either meet us at "Mike's Place" (inter
JR> Ohio
JR> SR's 43 & 261), or call config.sys, Inc. at +01 (216) 296.9831
JR> 
JR> ---
JR> (1:157/479)
JR> 

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From: JOE KELLY                              Number: 7714
  To: MIKE FITZSIMONDS                         Date: 11/25/93 10:54a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi 2x Spin                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Not sure? the drive comes with it's own 16bit board. if the SB supports any
type of mitsumi drive (they're all the same) it'll work. if interested give me
a call 407-659-2288.

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 7715
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 11/30/93  8:26a
Subj: Multimedia Audio Collecti               Refer: 11170
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Ed Duchek
-> (210)650-8069
->
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Ed, it looks like you (or your uplink) is sending out dupe messages...
If you're going to operate as a point from a fido node, you and your
uplink need to make sure that individual messages aren't echoed twice.

tim
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From: TED CONLEY                             Number: 7716
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 11/27/93 11:23a
Subj: Cdrom Pricelist                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TM-->Please send me a copy of your CD-ROM catalog.

Ted D. Conley
8452 Blackburn Avenue
Los Angeles, CA  90048

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From: TED CONLEY                             Number: 7717
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 11/27/93 11:24a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TM-->Please send me a copy of your latest CD-ROM catalog/price sheet.

Ted Conley
8452 Blackburn Ave.
L.A., CA  90048

 * SLMR 2.1a * He who fart in church, sit in pew

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From: TED CONLEY                             Number: 7718
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 11/27/93 11:24a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TM-->Please send me a copy of your catalog.

Ted Conley
8452 Blackburn Ave.
L.A., CA  90048

 * SLMR 2.1a * Down and out in Beverly Hillbillies Cop, 90210

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From: TED CONLEY                             Number: 7719
  To: MARCIAL MORENO                           Date: 11/27/93 11:25a
Subj: Re: Cd-Rom Disc'S For Sal               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send a catalog of ROM's to:

Ted Conley
8452 Blackburn Ave.
L.A., CA  90048

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From: DIANE DESATNICK                        Number: 7720
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/29/93 12:02a
Subj: Viacom Sherlock Holmes CD's             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone have the VIACOM Sherlock CD ROM games for sale (used preserred).

If you are willing to sell leave a response with a price,

Thanks.

        Diane 

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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 7721
  To: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                         Date: 11/29/93  1:25a
Subj: Re: CD's for Sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Jeff Collingwood to All <=-

 JC> I have the follow CD's for sale for $10 ea plus shipping (about
 JC> $3 each):

 JC> Mega CD-ROM2
 JC> Colossal Cookbook

Could you give me some info on these ??  I assume the Mega CD-ROM2 is a CD
of shareware....if so, how old is it ??  And, is the Colossal Cookbook a
database of recipes ??
 
... Voice: 919-870-6926 (eves/weekends)
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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 7722
  To: GARY SHADE                               Date: 11/29/93  1:25a
Subj: Re: Os/2 2.1 cd-rom for s               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Gary Shade to Mark Crosbie <=-

 GS> Overheard Mark Crosbie  to Rick Dunlap on the subject of OS/2 2.1
 GS> CD-ROM FOR SALE

 MC>->    I have OS/2 2.1 on CD-ROM for sale. This is the upgrade
 MC>version. I
 MC>->    requires DOS, Windows, Or OS/2 to be on the system before it
 MC>will
 MC>
 MC>If the is a complete version. I will offer $50. plus shipping. I have
 MC>seen is new for around $65. Let me know via netmail to 1:226/380 or
 MC>this echo.

 GS> Egghead has OS/2 for Windows (which is what this sounds like) on CD
 GS> for $49.95 - I'd expect dealers in this echo could even better this
 GS> price! GS

Nah, the OS/2 2.1 on CD is THE OS/2 2.1....the OS/2 for Windoze is not really
an upgrade (well, that depends on your point of view....if yer running
Windoze, *ANYTHING* is an upgrade !!), but a new OS/2 product for Windoze
users.  The OS/2 2.1 upgrade mentioned above actually looks for another
operating system (DOS or OS/2...Windoze is not an operating system) before it
will install.  That CD goes for a bit more than the OS/2 for Windoze CD.
 
... NT replace OS/2?  And I suppose your favorite editor is edlin.
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From: JEAN-LOUIS BONTRONT                    Number: 7723
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 11/28/93 10:43p
Subj: Educational shareware CD                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hayden Bradshaw digitally articulated the following
to Jean-louis Bontront on 26 Nov 93  20:32

 HB> If you'd like, I will send you our current price listing with Full
 HB> Description of most of our 700+ CDs.  We're located in Toronto, so you
 HB> can count on us to get you your CDs hassle-free.

Sure thing!  Here's the address:

The Staff Room BBS
12357 St-Denis
Tecumseh, ON, N8N 1L1

 HB> Au Revoir!

A la prochaine!

JLB

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From: PAT DELIN                              Number: 7724
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/27/93 11:40a
Subj: Microsoft Encarta                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Microsoft Encarta.. The 94 Issue of the CD-ROM.. It is cool.. Goes 249$
retail.. Yours for 100$

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From: PAT DELIN                              Number: 7725
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/27/93 11:45a
Subj: Magnavox CDD-461                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone want a Magnavox CDD-461 External Cd-Rom Drive.. Comes with a few CD
's.. Really Nice, Still in box

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From: PAT DELIN                              Number: 7726
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/28/93  3:44p
Subj: Cd Rom for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

External Hitachi CDR-1503S for sale.. Caddyless, Mechanical loading mechanism..
It rocks the house.. Serious Offers only..


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From: ERIC HO                                Number: 7727
  To: PEOPLE IN EUROPE                         Date: 11/28/93  8:22p
Subj: Distributor wanted                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you are in Europe and interested in distributing our new CD-ROM title,
please call 408-748-9988 or Netmail 1:143/88.


    * Dr. Windows - Genuine       500+ MB of files for MS Windows
                                  ATM, Business, Communication, Database
                                  Desktop, Programming, NT....
                                  Dated in Nov. 1993.

    * Dr. Games for DOS           Top 60 ready to play games on CD-ROM
                                  Dated in Nov. 1993

    * Dr. Games for Windows       180+ games for MS Windows, setp.exe
                                  included. create program group & add icons.
                                  Dated in Nov. 1993

    * Dr. Shareware - Gold        640+ MB of files, the best collection in
                                  the market. 5000+ programs.
                                  Dated in Nov. 1993


    Call 408-748-9988 ARI for more detail & free flyers.

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From: MARK GUTT                              Number: 7728
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/28/93  9:26a
Subj: cdrom software for sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EcoQuest I (CD ROM version): runs in Windows or DOS ...............  $20
 *all speech, very nice graphics....(includes the reg. card)
 (suggests age 12 & over, but the younger children really
  enjoy it as well!)


Software Toolworks MultiMedia Encyclopedia CD ROM (93 edition?)....  $25
 (Windows version.....still in the shrinkwrap)


All are in perfect condition,including docs.  You pay the shipping
costs.

If interested, leave me a note or I can be reached at:
             (414) 734-4090, ask for Mark.


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From: MARK GUTT                              Number: 7729
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/28/93 10:50a
Subj: cd rom software for sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EcoQuest I (CD ROM version): runs in Windows or DOS ...............  $20
 *all speech, very nice graphics....(includes the reg. card)
 (suggests age 12 & over, but the younger children really
  enjoy it as well!)

Software Toolworks MultiMedia Encyclopedia CD ROM (93 edition?)....  $25
 (Windows version.....still in the shrinkwrap)

All are in perfect condition,including docs.  You pay the shipping costs.

If interested, leave me a note or I can be reached at:
             (414) 734-4090, ask for Mark.

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7730
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 11/28/93  2:38p
Subj: Re: Adult CD sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ok, I will trade ya T&A 2 the maxx for PC Pix 1.  Each pay own shipping?
 
Please send me an address.  Heres mine.
 
Thanks
Scott Raley
Box 76
ridge, MD 20680-0076
 
PS  What other cds do you have?

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7731
  To: DENNIS WRIGHT                            Date: 11/27/93  5:52p
Subj: 'R' Rated CD-ROM                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can you send me info on Dealer prices and dealer info, also on
any sysop discounts.  You can send it here, netmail me at
1:2612/104 or to the address below. Thanks

Scott Raley
Box 76
Ridge, MD 20680-0076
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7732
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 11/27/93  5:54p
Subj: Adult Cd'S                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What, in your opinion is the best shareware and adult cd to put on
a BBS?

thanks
Scott Raley
Sysop => the Yellow Pages  (301)-872-4238   (1:2612/104)
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7733
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 11/27/93  5:59p
Subj: Canadian Distribution                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can you send me some dealer info?  I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks.

You can netmail it to me at 1:2612/104 or send it to the address
below.

Scott Raley
c/o S Productions
Box 76
Ridge, MD 20680-0076
USA
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7734
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 11/27/93  6:00p
Subj: Catalog of CD's w/desc!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send me a catalog of prices to the address below or netmail
to 1:2612/104.  Do you have any sysop discounts?

Thanks
Scott raley
Box 76
Ridge, MD 20680-0076
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7735
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/27/93  6:05p
Subj: CD-ROM BB for Sale  e                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like some dealer/sysop info on your upcoming products.
Could you please post here with prices or netmail me at 1:2612/104
or send to the address below..  Greatly appreciate it.

thanks

Scott Raley
Box 76
ridge, MD 20680-0076
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7736
  To: JIM LARSON                               Date: 11/28/93  5:12p
Subj: Adult cd rom for trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Would you like to trade Storm I for All Beauties?

Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7737
  To: RICK BAUER                               Date: 11/28/93  5:28p
Subj: Busty Babes vol II                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Where is this new source?  Any names and addresses?

Thanks
Scott
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7738
  To: RICK WEBER                               Date: 11/28/93  5:31p
Subj: CD's For Sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What is Q69?  What is on it.  Please send me an adress of where to
send the money and please send me shipping info.  I plan on buying
1 or 2 cds from you.  Can you also send me a listing of all your
shareware and adult cds?  Would appreciate it.  And any sysop
discounts?

thanks
Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7739
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 11/28/93  5:32p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send a copy of your catalog to the address below or netmail
me at 1:2612/104

thanks
Scott raley
Box 76
Ridge, Md 20680-0076
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7740
  To: THOMAS NAPOLITANO                        Date: 11/28/93  5:33p
Subj: CD-ROM Distributor                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in becomning a reseller in my area, can you help me
out and send me some info on distributors?

Thanks,  you can netmail me at 1:2612/104
or here:
Scott Raley
The Yellow Pages BBS => 301-872-4238

Box 76
Ridge, MD 20680-0076

Thanx!
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7741
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 11/28/93  5:34p
Subj: CD-Rom Wanted!!!! Cheap!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Would you like to trade your cdrom hookup?  I have a commercial,
complete package, copy of WordPerfect 5.2 for Windows, the complete
thing!  Not the upgrade!  Retails for around $275 to $300.  Wanna
trade?

thanks
Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7742
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 11/28/93  5:37p
Subj: Cdrom Systems                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you have the Chestnut cd, gifs galore for $10?  if so please
send me an address of where to send the money.

thanks
Scott Raley
The Yellow Pages BBS => 301-872-4238  (1:2612/104)
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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 7743
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 11/28/93  7:25a
Subj: so much modem madness                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SR>Please send me an address where to send the money.
 
SPYR Inc 
PO Box 89 
Erie PA 16512

 
or call 1-800-424-0234 to order using Visa/Mc/Amex/COD 
($39 plus $3 shipping, Sysops: mention fidonet & save $10!)
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From: RICHARD JOHNSON                        Number: 7744
  To: TIM MORGAN                               Date: 11/28/93  9:15p
Subj: CD Rom Player                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Tim Morgan to Richard Johnson dated 11-26-93 ***
> ->
> ->
> ->
> ->Is it Multimedia Compadable
> 
Not that I know of. They are a bit too slow to work that way. I just want to
use them for my BBS and such. I've tried cacheing them but nothings seems to
speed them up. If Multimedia is what you're looking for you may want a faster
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From: JONATHAN MCGIRR                        Number: 7745
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 11/29/93  7:30a
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Okay, you twisted my arm... OUCH! Send m.o. to me at:
->
-> 13590 Fletcher Regency Drive
-> Tampa, FL  33613
->
-> I will send it ups ground the same day I get the m.o. The drive is
-> perfect!
->
-> Are you related to a "George Mcgirr" from NJ. Your tag didn't include
-> location so I don't know where you are from. I went to high school wi
-> him in Delran, NJ, class of 1980.

If his name is McGirr, he has to be related in some way. No doubt about
it. But as far as how, well, now that IS questionable! (I am in the
Dallas, TX area).
I will send the check out in the morning. Thanks.


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From: MICHAEL MURPHY                         Number: 7746
  To: WILLIAM WRIGHT                           Date: 11/28/93  9:53p
Subj: Night Owl's 10                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (28 Nov 93) William Wright wrote to Michael Murphy...

 WW>  > Does anyone have any information about the recall of
 WW>  > NOPV10?  Are you (or
 WW>  > anyone you know) excepting excanges for it?  I've also
 WW>  > heard about NOVP10.1,
 WW>  > it that true?
 WW>  > Any help would be appreciated,
 WW>  > Michael
 WW> 
 WW> It has 2 viruses on it.

That's not what I had asked.  I know that there is two viruses on it, that is
why i'm asking the above.

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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 7747
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/29/93  3:03p
Subj: JPEG CD's                               Refer: NONE
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Anyone have any CD's full of true JPEG pics or similar 24bit format... Looking
for maybe adult cd's and objects for animations and rendering purposes....

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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 7748
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/26/93 12:50a
Subj: Double Speed CD-ROMS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



                  In time for Christmas!!!!!!!!!
      *******************************************************
      *  Philips 215/10 SCSI Single speed CD-ROM drive      *
      *  complete w/future domain 850 SCSI card COMPLETE!   *
      *                     $240.00 ea                      *
      *  Philips 206/10 AT BUS DOUBLE SPEED CD-ROM drive    *
      *  complete w/interface card and cables COMPLETE!     *
      *                     $275.00 ea                      *
      *  Both: Pwr Tray, caddyless, 64k buffer, M-S photo   *
      *******************************************************
                           Call us today!
                             MEG*A*BITE
                           (517)892-5518
                      7 days a week / 24 hrs!


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 7749
  To: THOMAS NUFER                             Date: 11/26/93  9:46a
Subj: Re: CD ROM drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> How much for the Phillips Special without the Future Domain SCSI card
-> this a straight SCSI CDRom drive or does it require the card to work!

These are new, TRUE scsi 2 DRIVES. Bare they are only 190.00 each!
Please call us at (517)892-5518 for any other information!
Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE
1:239/675


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 7750
  To: RYAN MYERS                               Date: 11/27/93  4:52p
Subj: Re: NEC MODEL 36 Readers                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Still have any of these drives?  ..If so, I am very intrested in one
-> them. Netmail me back if  you still have them, at 1:290/107.   What w
-> used for, and how long?

Hi Ryan,
We still have some model 36's for sale. They are used but generally in
good shape and all are shipped ONLY after being tested and adjusted as
need be. 30 day warranty!
Please call us at (517)892-5518 anytime you wish!
Looking forward to your call!

Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE
1:239/675


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7751
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 11/29/93  2:31a
Subj: Re: hobbes 10/93??                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=>> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Chris Wood <=-
>>
 >>>    Is there any Canadian distributor or American distributor that
 >>>    carries the latest Hobbes OS/2 CDROM.  I believe it would be
 >>>    either a 10/93 or 11/93 press, as I already have the 06/93.
>>
 >>>    Please leave a number that I can order from with my Visa if
 >>>    you carry this CD.
>>
 BO>> Chris, as of this date the Hobbes OS/2 disk has not been released yet.
>>
 BO>> There has been no word yet as to when it will be out.
>>
 BO>> When it does come out, I'am sure you'll see a ton of messages posted
 BO>> saying they have the cd in stock. I'am sure the wait will be worth it
 BO>> as I have yet to see any cd out that is any good in the OS/2
 BO>> department, other than one put out by "Profit Press" almost a year ago.
>>
>>
>>    Too bad you haven't seen our OS/2Box.  Seeing as it is truly
>>    BBS ready and has a

Sorry to say Dave, but we have looked at it and that's why we're not
promoting your product!

>>    GUI for end-users, the disk tops Hobbes as the latest in OS/2
>>    shareware. 

As far as the GUI goes, most BBS Sysops couldn't care less if it was on
the cd or not. Regarding "Topping Hobbes", I'd have to disagree with you
there as the NEW Hobbes OS/2 was just release and has over 600 megs of 
files on it. Even if there was a 50 % dup rate on Hobbes, it would still
have more OS/2 information on it than OS/2Box and they'd would be newer.

After our last go around with CD PowerBox, CD WindBox and reviewing your 
current copy of OS/2Box, I'll pass on any future Damar Products.

Thanks for the offer anyway.....

Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7752
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/29/93  2:31a
Subj: CD Bundles                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~[  S P E C I A L  B U N D L E S  ]~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1. Software Vault Gold     2. Night Owl 10.         3. Shareware Online 2
   Software Vault Games       Night Owl Games          Gameware
   Software Vault Windows     Night Owl Graphics       Soundware
   Price - $49.00             Price - $65.00           Price - $49.00

4. Hobbes OS/2 'NOV'       5. Tech Arsenal          6. Pier 3
   Window Users Arch          TechnoTool               Cream Of The Crop II
   Price - $30.00             Price - $30.00           Price - $45.00

   ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUE 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7753
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/29/93  2:31a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
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            C R E A M     O F     T H E     C R O P    I I

OVER 654 MEGS New Shareware   4987 Files Dated '93'  Dup Checked
Virus Checked                 Files.BBS Support      Multi Line Discription
Mouse Support Menu            14Megs Prog Code       Plus MORE !!!
Only 200 prog Older Than April '93' - 10% Dup to NO10, Pier3, Software Gold

                               PRICE - $25.

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263   FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7754
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/29/93  2:31a
Subj: Pier 3                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*************************   P I E R   3  ******************************

            New Shareware CD from "The Pier Exchange
          600 + Megs Of The Latest Shareware Programs

                         PRICE  -  $25.00

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6130

************************************************************************

Boris Osadciw

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From: DAMIAN STAMM                           Number: 7755
  To: TED MANOS                                Date: 11/29/93 12:13a
Subj: Cd-Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Actually, I saw an ad in Computer Shopper for a Toshiba 195 ms access with a
330 kb rate at less than $380.  I think I'm going for that one.  I hope to have
it up on my BBS and run some shareware disks.

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From: FRANK SERENO                           Number: 7756
  To: LEE NOGA AND ALL                         Date: 11/29/93  5:08p
Subj: 37 years old                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   With all due apologies to Tim Helton due to the off-topic nature of this
missive...

   LEE!
        With all the courage, gumption and determination you show in the
publishing field, why do you feel so insecure about your appearance?  I have
yet to see an image of you, but the menfolk that have met you have 
emphatically stated that you are very pleasing to the eye.

        Age is not an indicator of beauty!  At 37 you are just reaching your
sensual peak.  By now you most likely know what pleases you and what it takes
to give pleasure to others.  Your body may not be as firm as when you were
18, but the experience you bring to sensual relationships makes you the more
desirable partner.

        In closing, I am listing some women who are over 37 years of age whom
no man would not desire:

                                Jacquelin Smith
                                Kate Jackson
                                Cheryl Tiegs
                                Christy Brinkley
                                Raquel Welch
                                Jane Seymour
                                Sigourney Weaver
                                Dolly Parton
                                Victoria Principal

        What man worth his salt would prefer a giddy, foolish girl to an
intelligent and sensual woman?  You're not getting older, Lee, you're getting
better!

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From: FRANK SERENO                           Number: 7757
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/29/93  5:08p
Subj: Re: BUY PIER3 GET A CD FREE!            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

 MS> -!---------------------------------------------------------------------
 MS> --- 2-CD PACKAGE DEAL:  Buy Pier 3, and get Pier 2 for only $20
 MS> more! LIMITED TIME OFFER:  Buy Pier 3, and get CD Powerbox Shareware
 MS> FREE!

Mike, I already have CD PowerBox v1.00.  What other disc would you be willing
to throw in for free?  I thought I posted earlier asking if you would honor
Boris' price of $25 on Pier 3 but I haven't seen a reply.  Maybe my message 
didn't make it into the echo.  Depending on what other disc I could get for
the $29, I would purchase from you.

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 7758
  To: RED KENNEDY                              Date: 11/29/93 11:24a
Subj: Cd-rom bb for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You made an aside to Lee Noga, thusly:

RK>Hi Lee

RK>Gee Picking on me now. <G>

 > release as well, barring no "Murphy" law problems.

RK> * Origin: Murphy's Law Chase River B.C. (1:351/271)

I thought, when I saw that message from her, that she had ME in mind. Maybe
it's BOTH of us.

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 7759
  To: TED MANOS                                Date: 11/28/93  8:15p
Subj: Cd Rom Player                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Ted!

Friday November 26 1993, Ted Manos writes to Pat Rickerson:

 TM> Pat,

 TM> Could you provide just a little bit more info about these players?  I
 TM> might be interested in taking both of them.  Thanks

 TM> Ted Manos
 TM> 400 Springhill Dr.
 TM> Roselle, IL  60172-2573
 TM> (708) 980-7919

They are Hitachi 3500 internal, with cable, controller card and soft ware
Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 7760
  To: ROBERT MOORE                             Date: 11/28/93  8:18p
Subj: cd rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Robert!

Thursday November 25 1993, Robert Moore writes to Pat Rickerson:

 RM> Did you say you are selling Hitachi CDR3500 drives that are in need of
 RM> repair?  How much are you selling them for? -+- FastEcho 1.30/g

Have a few what do you offer?
Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 7761
  To: JOEL MANDIGO                             Date: 11/28/93  9:37p
Subj: CD Rom Player                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Joel!

Thursday November 25 1993, Joel Mandigo writes to Pat Rickerson:

 JM> @TID: FastEcho 1.30/g 7180
 JM> In a Message From: Pat Rickerson  To: All  Dated: 11-23-93 at: 07:32

 PR-->> Hello All!
 PR-->> Have 2 Hitachi CD Rom Players for sale with controller,
 PR-->> cable and soft ware
 PR-->> $250 obo  for all!
 PR-->> Pat


 JM>       Pat,
 JM>           What is the access time on the CD-ROMS? Are they fast enough to
 JM> be used with sound and video? And how old are they?

Don't know all i know that they are 3500 models
Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 7762
  To: LEE DETTER                               Date: 11/28/93  9:38p
Subj: CD-Rom Wanted!!!! Cheap!!!!!!           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Lee!

Saturday November 27 1993, Lee Detter writes to Pat Rickerson:

 LD> Hay umm how fast are those CD-Rom's and what kind are they?? Tell me every
 LD> thing about them! I am thinking geting it if you will drop the price some
 LD> more.. I am not in a good spot..... What about 180 for them....... I have
 LD> to raise the money on my BBS though... SE Ya

They are 3500's and in good shape, will take a trade for the difference
Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 7763
  To: RICHARD JOHNSON                          Date: 11/28/93  9:46p
Subj: CD Rom Player                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Richard!

Sunday November 28 1993, Richard Johnson writes to Pat Rickerson:

 RJ> *** Quoting Pat Rickerson to Richard Johnson dated 11-26-93 ***

 >>  RJ> for more of these drives for awhile. Thanks.
 >>
 >> Will do that but with out the controller card
 >> Pat
 >>

 RJ> Sounds fine to me. I'll take both for $220 with the card or 200 without
 RJ> the card. Call me voice at 614-792-0465 or 614-792-7791(data) and set up
 RJ> the deal. Call me soon as I have another deal going for the same drives.
 RJ> Thanks for your time.

Nice talking to ya, will get them out when recived money, thanks
Pat

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From: BILL JONES                             Number: 7764
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/28/93  6:57p
Subj: FOR SALE                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I have the following items that are excess to me needs now and would
 like to sell them,.
 
 Mitsumi LU005s CD Rom player (new) $155.00 (includes shipping)
 Older Mitsumi 700 ms CD Rom player $115.00 (includes shipping)
 NiteOwl 4.2 CD  $14.00
 NiteOwl 5.0 CD  $14.00
 NiteOwl 6.1 CD  $14.00
 NiteOwl 7.0 CD  $14.00
 Will accept $50.00 (including shipping) for the four NiteOwl CD's.
 
 I can be reached from 8am untill 4pm at 1-706-563-7878 EST.
 Or reply here.
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 7765
  To: PAUL LAUGHLIN                            Date: 11/29/93  9:43a
Subj: CD-ROM Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello PAUL!

Sunday November 28 1993, PAUL LAUGHLIN writes to All:

 PL> I am looking for a SLOW?? CD-ROM Drive to run on my BBS  I already have
 PL> one running w/ speed all this will be for is files...  It has to be
 PL> compatible with OS/2  And as cheap as possible...   Thank You...  Paul
 PL> Laughlin 1:116/110

Have e few Hitachi 3500's don't know if they run under OS/2, but they are $100
each with out card or two with card for $225
Pat

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From: TIM MORGAN                             Number: 7766
  To: SAM BECKWITH                             Date: 11/29/93  1:23p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> DFW Discount Electronics    CD-ROM Price List  Orders: 800-829-0331
->  Ship to USA ONLY. 11/28/93 BBS: 214-259-4188  Local : 214-254-0331
->
-> 9000 Sounds.....................................>BBS Ready   $22.00
-> Hobbes OS/2 Archives 10/93......................>BBS Ready   $16.00
-> Monster Media 93 Volume 2.......................>BBS Ready   $26.00
-> Night Owl 10....................................>BBS Ready   $28.00
-> Night Owl Games.................................>BBS Ready   $19.00
-> Night Owl Graghics..............................>BBS Ready   $24.00
-> Pier 3 Shareware................................>BBS Ready   $26.00
-> Shareware April 1993............................>BBS Ready   $10.00
-> Shareware Explorer 4 CD Combo...................>BBS Ready   $39.00
-> Simtel 10/93....................................>BBS Ready   $16.00
-> So Much Shareware 3.............................>BBS Ready   $22.00
-> Software Vault Gold Collection..................>BBS Ready   $19.00
-> Business Assistant..............................>Business    $15.00
-> Business Master 3rd Edition.....................>Business    $18.00
-> King's Quest V..................................>Games/Enter $18.00
-> King's Quest VI.................................>Games/Enter $22.00
-> Loom............................................>Games/Enter $19.00
-> Secret of Monkey Island.........................>Games/Enter $22.00
-> Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe.................>Games/Enter $22.00
-> PC-SIG World of Windows.........................>General     $19.00
-> Clipart Warehouse...............................>Graphics &  $14.00
-> Desktop Publishers Dream Disk...................>Graphics &  $25.00
-> GIFs Galore.....................................>Graphics &  $15.00
-> Kodak Photo CD Access Software (Windows)........>Graphics &  $15.00
-> Publisher's Powerhouse..........................>Graphics &  $22.00
-> Family Doctor...................................>Health      $19.00
-> Mayo Clinic Family Health (Mac-OEM).............>Health      $21.00
-> Mayo Clinic Family Health (Windows-OEM).........>Health      $21.00
-> Programmers ROM.................................>Programming $18.00
-> Source CD-ROM...................................>Programming $19.00
-> Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia 1994 (Windows>Reference   $66.00
-> Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia 6.0.............>Reference   $39.00
-> Microsoft Bookshelf 93 for Windows (OEM)........>Reference   $45.00
-> Microsoft Encarta 1994 (Boxed)..................>Reference   $86.00
-> ProPhone National Edition Mid-Year 1993 (7 disc.>Reference   $86.00
-> Dictionary of the Living World (OEM)............>Science &   $28.00
-> Dinosaur Adventure (OEM)........................>Science &   $27.00
-> Dinosaurs! The Multimedia Encyclopedia (Windows)>Science &   $23.00
-> Microsoft Multimedia Dinosaurs (Windows-Boxed)..>Science &   $57.00
-> National Geographics Mammals (OEM)..............>Science &   $23.00
-> San Diego Zoo Presents...The Animals (DOS-OEM)..>Science &   $21.00
-> San Diego Zoo Presents...The Animals (MPC Window>Science &   $21.00
-> Encyclopedia of Sound...........................>Sound/Music $13.00
-> MIDI Music Shop for Windows.....................>Sound/Music $18.00
->  Call me for a complete price list.  Thanks, Sam
->
-> þ CmpQwk #UNREGþ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY
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  Do you have Battle Chess on CD Rom the newest Version


                                       Thanks


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From: PHILLIP DAMPIER                        Number: 7767
  To: NINO FAGAN                               Date: 11/29/93 11:35a
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices11/23/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  I don't know if I should be jubilant about these prices or
 > be skeptical?  I just received my quarterly Hobbs CDRom from
 > Walnut Creek and THEIR price list.  Below is listed your and
 > theirs. How is it that you can go SO low?:

Walnut Creek always charges these kinds of prices when you buy from them
direct.  I have purchased most of my Walnut Creek discs for around the prices
quoted in the original message.  I don't particularly find most of their discs
that useful, to tell you the truth.

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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 7768
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/30/93 12:05a
Subj: Moving...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To Our Valued Customers, Present and Future...

HRB Computer Services, will be relocating to new premises during the
week of Nov.28-Dec.5/93.  The only changes will be to our address and
local telephone numbers.  Please note the following effective Dec.1/93:
^^^^^
New Address:            14 Hollis Crescent
                        Holland Landing, Ontario
                        Canada L9N 1E7

New Tel. #:             (905) 830-1615
New Fax #:              (905) 830-1615
New BBS #:              To follow...
Canadian Order #:       1-800-265-7081 (no change)

In no way should this disrupt our service to you.  Please feel free to
contact us now between 8 AM and 9 PM Mon-Fri (EST) for voice contact,
and any other time 24 hours a day for orders via messages.

Thank you, Hayden Bradshaw, GM
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From: DAVID RYDER                            Number: 7769
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 11/30/93  1:30a
Subj: Missing Order!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Message entered on Nov 28,93 by BORIS OSADCIW to DAVID HEPKIN
***********************************************************************
BO> Give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and I'am sure we can help.

BO> Boris Osadciw

    I did call Boris, regarding my unfulfilled order.  You said you were
    busy, but took my number again, and never called back.  What
    happened?

    I have tried netmail, but you don't respond.  Are you avoiding me?


***David.
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From: DAVID RYDER                            Number: 7770
  To: MARK CROSBIE                             Date: 11/30/93  1:30a
Subj: OS/2 2.1                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Message entered on Nov 24,93 by MARK CROSBIE to ALL
***********************************************************************
MC> Anyone have OS/2 v2.1 on CD-Rom for sale.
MC> Reply here, or via netmail. Lets deal.

    Mark, I have an unopened, shrink wrapped copy.  Make me a reasonable
    offer.   This is the 2.1 upgrade from dos/windows, and not OS/2 Lite.


MC>BossMan's HideOut BBS (614) 852-4956 London, Ohio  (1:226/380.0)

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From: DAVID RYDER                            Number: 7771
  To: CHRIS CONKLIN                            Date: 11/30/93  1:30a
Subj: CD'S Wanted                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


    Chris, I received the order and the cataloque on Friday last week.

    Do you have any package deal on the Night Owl 5, 6, and 7 together?



***David.
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From: JOHN BEESON                            Number: 7772
  To: ROBERT KOSIN                             Date: 11/28/93  6:17p
Subj: 130.00 cdrom drive                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in the drive for use on a bbs. Does it come with a controller
card and can other drives be added tot he controller?

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From: JOHN BEESON                            Number: 7773
  To: JEFF HUGHES                              Date: 11/28/93  6:21p
Subj: To: Matt Bedtelyon...                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like to know what type of controller is required and do you have any
and how much and what s/h and also is there warranty on them and can they be
daisy chained?

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From: ZACHARY HAMM                           Number: 7774
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/29/93  1:23p
Subj: HOBBES OS/2 CD-ROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FOR SALE:

Hobbes OS/2 CD-ROM.  Lots of Shareware for OS/2 2.X (some older 1.X
too).  Good disc.
                              $25.00


IBM OS/2 CD-ROM version 2.1 With Docs, install disks.     $125.00



If interested call 919-217-8333 or echo back.


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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 7775
  To: JONATHAN MCGIRR                          Date: 11/30/93 10:36a
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JM>If his name is McGirr, he has to be related in some way. No doubt about
JM>it. But as far as how, well, now that IS questionable! (I am in the
JM>Dallas, TX area).

JM>I will send the check out in the morning. Thanks.

WHOA!!! I didn't get any confirmation from you right away and I sold the
drive locally. If you already sent the m.o., I will send one right back to
you, no need to worry.

Sorry bout dat Jon.

Ron in Tampa
73163.124@compuserve.com
Prodigy: GHBF12B



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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 7776
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/26/93  4:14a
Subj: Adult Cds sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Visual Fantasies
Total Fantasy
PC Pix 1

25 dollars each + shipping or even trade for other CD's adult or not!
ken 412 793 9152

Happy Holidays To All...

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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 7777
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/26/93  4:17a
Subj: BB 1 Original Version 1                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Busty Babies orginal Version 1
100 dollars price includes 2nd day shipping

ken 412 793 9152

Happy Holidays To All...

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From: MATT KRACHT                            Number: 7778
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/25/93  3:34p
Subj: Rebel Assault                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

    Who's got the CD ROM version of Rebel Assault?

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From: TIM MORGAN                             Number: 7779
  To: RICHARD JOHNSON                          Date: 11/29/93 10:36p
Subj: CD Rom Player                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> *** Quoting Tim Morgan to Richard Johnson dated 11-26-93 ***
-> > ->
-> > ->
-> > ->
-> > ->Is it Multimedia Compadable
-> >
-> Not that I know of. They are a bit too slow to work that way. I just
-> use them for my BBS and such. I've tried cacheing them but nothings s
-> speed them up. If Multimedia is what you're looking for you may want
-> unit.
->
-> --- GEcho 1.00
->  * Origin: THE JunkYard BBS (1:226/510.10)
->
->
->
->
->Thank you for answering and you right I want Multi Media Ready.


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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 7780
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/30/93 10:25a
Subj: CD Recorder                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone got a good price on a CD Recorder?  Looking for possibly a Philips...
Saw them in Computer Shopper for $3999 I think...  What ya got?

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From: JOHN CARROLL                           Number: 7781
  To: TED MANOS                                Date: 11/28/93  1:42p
Subj: Re: Caddies!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TM--> John,

TM--> If these are the standard CR-DOM caddies, with the sliding
TM--> metal
TM--> shutter, I will take *all* of them.  Let me know.

    Sorry, Ted, these are the square ones without the sliding metal door.

    ...John

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From: WARREN DANIO                           Number: 7782
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 11/30/93  5:38a
Subj: ASIAN LADIES WARNING!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* Ronald Leon said to Ron Young, the following:
RL > A life form named RON beamed aboard the Enterprise and
RL > said:

RL > RY>In a message dated 22-Nov-93 10:51:00, Ronald Leon wrote:

RL > RL> For anyone thinking of buying this disc, it contains disgusting nas
RL > RL> faggot queer gifs on it! I almost threw up.

        Sell it to somebody who is trying toloose weight ;)

RL > RY>I take it you don't like this CD.  To avoid further sickness I will
RL > offe
RL > RY>$25.00 for this CD, shipped.

RL > RY>If interested leave me an address and I will send you payment.

RL > Thanks Ron but I already sold it locally. I should have
RL > waited since I only
RL > got $20 for it.

Wonder why everybody want's a disk full of fags That will make them puke ;>)..

RL > Ron in Tampa
RL > 73163.124@compuserve.com
                               Warren on the Island..

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From: WILLIAM WRIGHT                         Number: 7783
  To: MICHAEL MURPHY                           Date: 11/30/93  6:56a
Subj: Night Owl's 10                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MM> WW> It has 2 viruses on it.
MM>
MM>That's not what I had asked.  I know that there is two viruses
MM>on it, that is
MM>why i'm asking the above.

opps sorry. uhh there was some info posted on it a little while back.


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From: NISSE HAAK                             Number: 7784
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/30/93  3:43a
Subj: Buying a CD-ROM                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Everybody.
I've been thinking of buying a CD-ROM drive and You all seem to have
experience with the hardware (at least Your own).

So, my question is:

If You were to start all over again, what sort of things do I need to look
for. Dual Speed, KODAK Photo compability, External or Internal, ?, ....?

Well, I hope at least one of You guys can give me some advice.

Thanks for Your assistance..

Nisse Haak
Sweden.

... Busty Babes rides the Blue Wave...  
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From: JOHN CARROLL                           Number: 7785
  To: SCOTT TRACZYK                            Date: 11/30/93  7:16a
Subj: Re: CD caddies                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ST--> JC> For Sale I have approximately 20 new Cd caddies, were used once each
ST--> JC> Phillips Cd player $3 each or 2 for $5

ST--> John,
ST-->    Do you have some of those Cd caddies left?  If so, how
ST--> much would it
ST-->    cost to buy 6 and have them shipped to Minnesota?

ST-->       Scott Traczyk

            Scott, at this time I think they are all sold, unless someone
bails out one me, that happens sometimes. I will keep your number handy and if
that happens I will get ahold of you. Thanks for the reply and Happy Holidays
to you!
        ...John

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From: JOHN CARROLL                           Number: 7786
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/30/93 10:12p
Subj: caddies for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



        For Sale:  Quan. 10 CD-ROM caddies.  $3 each for Phillips and Sony
                   CD-ROM Players.

                   Call Florida 407-569-9411 or reply this echo.

                   Thanks!   John Carroll

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From: WILLIAM WRIGHT                         Number: 7787
  To: CRAIG REILLY                             Date: 11/30/93  3:23p
Subj: cd rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CR>  Hello...did someone say $99.00 for a CD-ROM Drive...I need one
CR>for my business...but just ABSOLUTELY can not spend over
CR>$125.00...please reply...
Uhh yeah. You can get a NEW one for around that, but its BLAZINGLY slow
(oxymoron.)


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7788
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/29/93 11:58p
Subj: CD-ROM DIRECTORY ON CD!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           | Title:  THE CD-ROM OF CD-ROMS |  |   Price:  $29   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

                    >>> FREE w/ any $100 CD purchase <<<

     This Windows 3.1 multimedia CD is a directory of over 4000 CD-ROM
     titles, nearly 5000 companies (with contact information), almost
     2000 industry movers & shakers, and close to 600 critical,
     professional reviews of CD-ROM titles.  It is written for Windows
     3.1 in a multimedia relational database, with SVGA color pictures
     of titles & screen shots, with motion, sound, and musical tracks
     from the leading CD titles today!

                  VERY UP TO DATE!   RELEASED:  NOV 13 1993
     THIS CD-ROM REFERENCE HAS MORE LISTINGS THAN IT'S TWO COMPETITORS
                    WHICH COST HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS EACH!

     This outstanding reference tool has the standard info on each title,
     including publisher, price, addresses, etc., plus a large number of
     critical reviews to give you an in-depth knowledge of just what the
     title is about.  If you are thinking about buying ANY CD-ROM's in
     the near future, GET THIS DISC!!!

     ADDED BONUS:  Included on the CD is a full working copy of PC
                   KARAOKE, absolutely FREE!

     --------------------------------------------------------------------
              PRICING:   CD-ROM of CD-ROM'S ALONE.........$29
                         WITH ANY CD-ROM PURCHASE..........$9
                        *WITH ANY $100 CD-ROM PURCHASE...FREE
     --------------------------------------------------------------------

                 >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<
               * Closeouts and discounted items not included

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7789
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/29/93 11:58p
Subj: ADULT "R" TITLES FOR SALE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 November 1993        SOFTCORE ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST   Last update: 11/20
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
 Amateur Models (New!).........34.00    High Volume Nudes (New!)......36.50
 American Girls (New!).........34.00    L.A. Strippers (Movie)........49.00
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......29.00    Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......48.00    Photo Gallery (New!)..........34.00
 Digital Dreams................28.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......33.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Girls of Mardi Gras (New!)....43.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: GRANT FLEMING                          Number: 7790
  To: CARL MONTANTE                            Date: 11/30/93  2:45a
Subj: CD-Disk For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Grant,
->
->  I tried calling the number you gave me in your last message.
-> There has been no answer all weekend. What is a good time to contact
-> you?
->
->
->
->                                   Carl
->
-> * SMRead 3.3  #S385 >
-> --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3
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Sorry..out of town for Thanksgiving.  Call me between 10 am and 1 pm
Mon-Fri...I work nights so you can almost always catch me during these
hours. Look forward to hearing from you


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From: GENE MILLSAPS                          Number: 7791
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 11/29/93 10:13p
Subj: Encarta for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EP>I have Microsoft's Encarta encyclopedia CD for sale. . . .
EP>
EP>  . . . .  I am asking $110 delivered...
EP>
EP>... Voice: 919-870-6926 (eves/weekends)

Are you aware that Egghead sells the 1994 version for about $80, in the store? 
Evidently MicroSoft has had major re-thinking on its pricing.

        Good luck.

===
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From: MICHAEL COLLIER                        Number: 7792
  To: JIM NEUMILLER                            Date: 11/29/93  9:50a
Subj: Changing Times...                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JN>Lee:
JN> 
JN>From the lady that brings us Busty Babes....are you one yourself?  Sor
JN>be "off topic", but I gotta know!!!
JN> 
JN>Jim


   Sheeez Tom, haven't you got enough Windows to peep into without leaving 
home? Leave the Ladies alone, they're not all for sale. . . Haven't you 
heard of Sexual Harassment?

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From: FRANK SESLER                           Number: 7793
  To: THOMAS MENG                              Date: 11/30/93  6:28p
Subj: Busty Babes II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will take it.  Can you ship COD.  If not let me know how to get the funds to
you.  If COD possible.  Ship to:

Frank Sesler
7200 S. Sherman St.
Littleton, Co.  80122

I'll apy what ever the COD charges are.  Thanks.

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From: BILL HALL                              Number: 7794
  To: MIKE FITZSIMONDS                         Date: 11/27/93  9:54p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi 2x Spin                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MFBH>Does the Sound Blaster Pro have the Interface for the drive?

No, but this cd-rom comes with it's own card & works along
with the SB Pro.

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From: CASEY ROMANSKI                         Number: 7795
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 12/01/93  6:02a
Subj: Adult Cds sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

--> Casey Romanski Quotes a message written by Ken Matthews
--> to All on 11-26-93 04:14 saying:
KM> Visual Fantasies
KM> Total Fantasy
KM> PC Pix 1
KM> 
KM> 25 dollars each + shipping or even trade for other CD's adult 
KM> ken 412 793 9152
KM> 

I may be interested in a trade. I have Hot Pix vol. 4. Are any of yours BBS
ready? Could you send the  file directories from your CD's to my BBS or via
FIDO at 1:393/10? BBS number is 817-321-3123 if you are interested. Which is
the best disk in your opinion that has BBS descriptions and Hi Rez gif's?


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From: DAVID SHORT                            Number: 7796
  To: ROD WILEY                                Date: 11/29/93  8:16p
Subj: Doublespace vs Stacker                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     Stacker will uninstall alright but the only easy way to do so in the
version I have (ie the only thing it does) is remove it's stack VOL thereby
destroying all files therein regardless of whether they would have fit on the
uncompressed drive after the StacVol was gone.
     Also with 6.2's release Doublespace's protection against data loss is
raised to even if not above stackers abilities.

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From: GEOFF FRANGOS @ 910/114                Number: 7797
  To: MARK CROSBIE                             Date: 11/29/93 10:10a
Subj: OS/2 2.1                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MC>Anyone have OS/2 v2.1 on CD-Rom for sale.
MC>Reply here, or via netmail. Lets deal.
 Make me an offer...but you may wish to check out the OS/2 for Windows that wa
just released. I got it for $40 on CD ROM at Software Etc. The only catch is
that you have to have Windows 3.1 already present on your drive to use the

WinOS2 features. When I have to stoop to using Windows, I use Boot Manager to
boot into a native DOS session...there are a few glitches remaining when using
multimedia under WINOS2!


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From: RICK BAUER                             Number: 7798
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/01/93  2:15a
Subj: Busty Babes vol II                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Busty Babes vol II

Sorry forgot to actually say that the new source for my disks was
The Lions Den International.. The publisher of Busty Babes.
They were most helpful and I got my purchase on-time. This disk 
(vol II) does not contain any real XXX poses execpt for one dir.
The overall quality is superb. I also have been looking for a 
good "R" rated disk and this fit the bill. I look forward to the
new disks that they have coming up in 1994. 

Rick

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From: RICK BAUER                             Number: 7799
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/01/93  2:23a
Subj: Adult cd's to Trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following cd's i would like to trade for
other cd's 

1. FAO #3 adult cd jam packed disk many topics
2. FAO Gold 1 the best of the FAO adult series on one disk.

If you have adult cd's you would like to trade let me know.

Rick

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From: STEWART GAY                            Number: 7800
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 11/30/93 10:06p
Subj: Re: New cd                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>            C R E A M     O F     T H E     C R O P    I I
BO>
BO>OVER 654 MEGS New Shareware   4987 Files Dated '93'  Dup Checked
BO>Virus Checked                 Files.BBS Support      Multi Line
BO>Discription Mouse Support Menu            14Megs Prog Code       Plus
BO>MORE !!! Only 200 prog Older Than April '93' - 10% Dup to NO10, Pier3,
BO>Software Gold
BO>                               PRICE - $25.
BO>
BO>ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263   FAX
BO>216-225-6759
BO>Boris Osadciw

When you say files.bbs support, does that mean they will work rbbs
style Fms dir listing or will I have to go back and type all those
files by hand in the FMS listing?
Stewart..

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From: ZACHARY HAMM                           Number: 7801
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/30/93 11:11a
Subj: BRODERBUND CD-ROMS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for good prices on the Broderbund CD-ROMS for kids.  Please post names
and prices.

Zack hamm


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From: ALAN ORNDORFF                          Number: 7802
  To: MARK CROSBIE                             Date: 12/01/93  8:43a
Subj: OS/2 2.1                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> -> I have an extra copy of OS/2 2.1 on c.d. rom collecting dust.  I j
-> -> got the os/2 for windows version and don't need both.  Make an off
->
-> What is the going price for this on CD. I have seen one listed in her
-> for $75.00.

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From: ALAN ORNDORFF                          Number: 7803
  To: MARK CROSBIE                             Date: 12/01/93  8:44a
Subj: OS/2 2.1                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> -> I have an extra copy of OS/2 2.1 on c.d. rom collecting dust.  I j
-> -> got the os/2 for windows version and don't need both.  Make an off
->
-> What is the going price for this on CD. I have seen one listed in her
-> for $75.00.
 
 
   Well, how about $50 then

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 7804
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 11/30/93  5:04a
Subj: Where's the disc                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Blaine, it has been almost a month since you rec MY disc.  Please do one
of the following:

Send the disc you said you would.
Send me $20.00.
Send my original back.

I am pretty much pissed at the way you have fooled me so far.  You are
the only person to do such a thing.  If I don't get a reply soon,
well.... Some day I will be back in Fl and Apopka is on the map.

Randy Neuner

Sorry moderator, but thanks for letting this go thru.

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From: CHET HART                              Number: 7805
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/30/93  8:28a
Subj: Missed Messages                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Everyone,

If you have tried to send a message to me (Chet Hart) then please
resubmit the message as I have been isolated from FIDONet for about
5 days and may have missed you on my last mail pickup.

Thnak you!
73, Chet

 * OLX 2.2 * I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it?
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From: BOB DEUTCH                             Number: 7806
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/30/93  2:21p
Subj: HELLO                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                              "BIG BOBBER'S BBS"

                         LOCATED IN SUNNY SOUTH FLORIDA
                  IS PROUD TO NOW BE ECHOING THIS CONFERENCE

                          RUNNING WILDCAT VER 3.90
                       US ROBOTICS 21600 DUAL STANDARD
                                 (305)572-3357
                             YOUR SYSOP: BOB DEUTCH
                                1.8 GIG ON-LINE

                       "THE BEST KEEPS GETTING BETTER"







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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 7807
  To: STEVE KISER                              Date: 12/01/93  5:15p
Subj: Re: 'R' Rated Adult Cd-ro               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



               -|-  Quoting Steve Kiser to Dennis Wright  -|-

 DW> An 'R' rated CD-ROM that showcases topless dancing clubs from all
   > over the US. Contains thousands of GIFs containing some of the
   > most beautiful women

 SK> Any from "Good Guys" in Washington, DC? <g>

make that Georgetown... small world!  *:)

,\\ark



 
... pssst, anyone wanna buy a subroutine?
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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7808
  To: WC HILL                                  Date: 12/01/93  4:04a
Subj: cd storage boxes wanted                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  Occasionally I'll get a CD that comes in a cardboard wrapper/cover.
 > What I'd like to find is a plastic storage box/device that I can store
 > these disks in, individually. Is there anything out there that other
 > users have found that works or is available commercially?
    I think what you are looking for is called Jewel cases.  they are available
most anywhere.  we sell them for .75 cents each.  Let me now how many you want
& if you'd decide to place an order with exceeding $50.00, I'll throw in a few
to keep you happy:-)
    Regards,
    Joe Rinehart

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From: GEOFF HOWARD                           Number: 7809
  To: MICHAEL MURPHY                           Date: 12/01/93  9:13a
Subj: Night Owl's 10                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MM*That's not what I had asked.  I know that there is two viruses on it, that
is
  *why i'm asking the above.
Hi Michael,excuse me for butting in,I have run scan108 on Night 
Owl10,it comes up clean,could you or anyone else tell me the names of 
the Dir and files with a virus,I am not very good with computers 
yet,and am afraid to use the disk,but dont really want to lose it
Thanks 

Geoff

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From: JOHN PIERCE                            Number: 7810
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 11/30/93  5:11p
Subj: Cd-Rom Bb For Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> SR> Well I will send you a check for $25 for busty babes, the $25
->     include via priority mail. I will prepay. Please send me an
->     address.
->     Thanks, Scott

Well, I want at least $30 or $25 plus shipping cost! (Especially, since
you want the $9 priority mail, instead of the 2-day $3 delivery!)

Thanks,
John


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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 7811
  To: JOHN CARROLL                             Date: 11/30/93  5:53p
Subj: caddies for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting John Carroll to All <=-

 JC> For Sale:  Quan. 10 CD-ROM caddies.  $3 each for Phillips and
 JC> Sony CD-ROM Players.

Put me down for a couple!


Steve


... "Love -- a grave mental disease."  Plato
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From: JIDESH VEERAMACHANENI                  Number: 7812
  To: BILL JONES                               Date: 11/30/93  5:28p
Subj: FOR SALE                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

how fast is your newer cd-rom drive and does it come with the controler and all
other accories to operate it

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From: JIDESH VEERAMACHANENI                  Number: 7813
  To: PAT DELIN                                Date: 11/30/93  5:33p
Subj: Magnavox CDD-461                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

how much do you want for it and how fast is it
does it come with all the hardware to run it

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From: JIDESH VEERAMACHANENI                  Number: 7814
  To: PAT DELIN                                Date: 11/30/93  5:34p
Subj: Cd Rom for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

how much is it and how fast
does it come with all nessary hardware

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 7815
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 11/30/93  7:09p
Subj: hobbes 10/93??                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Boris!

Monday November 29 1993 02:31, Boris Osadciw wrote to Dave Perkovich:

 >>> Too bad you haven't seen our OS/2Box.  Seeing as it is truly
 >>> BBS ready and has a

 BO> Sorry to say Dave, but we have looked at it and that's why we're not
 BO> promoting your product!

That's funny!  I heard the reason you were'nt support the OS/2 Box is because
you refuse to buy it from Mike Shannon, and you want to screw Dave for not
making you the "exclusive distributor."  As a matter of fact, that's exactly
what you said to ******, whom I talked to just the other day.

Later,

Dave

... Clinton - From a chicken in every pot, to a chicken who smoked pot!

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 7816
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 11/30/93  7:13p
Subj: hobbes 10/93??                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Boris!

Monday November 29 1993 02:31, Boris Osadciw wrote to Dave Perkovich:

 >>> Too bad you haven't seen our OS/2Box.  Seeing as it is truly
 >>> BBS ready and has a

 BO> Sorry to say Dave, but we have looked at it and that's why we're not
 BO> promoting your product!

That's funny!  I heard the reason you were'nt support the OS/2 Box is because
you refuse to buy it from Mike Shannon, and you want to screw Dave for not
making you the "exclusive distributor."  As a matter of fact, that's exactly
what you said to ******, whom I talked to just the other day.

Later,

Dave

... Clinton - From a chicken in every pot, to a chicken who smoked pot!

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 7817
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 11/30/93  7:15p
Subj: hobbes 10/93??                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Boris!

Monday November 29 1993 02:31, Boris Osadciw wrote to Dave Perkovich:

 >>> Too bad you haven't seen our OS/2Box.  Seeing as it is truly
 >>> BBS ready and has a

 BO> Sorry to say Dave, but we have looked at it and that's why we're not
 BO> promoting your product!

That's funny!  I heard the reason you were'nt support the OS/2 Box is because
you refuse to buy it from Mike Shannon, and you want to screw Dave for not
making you the "exclusive distributor."  As a matter of fact, that's exactly
what you said to ******, whom I talked to just the other day.

Later,

Dave

... Clinton - From a chicken in every pot, to a chicken who smoked pot!

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From: WILLIAM WRIGHT                         Number: 7818
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/01/93  3:41p
Subj: ????????                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can anyone tell me about Night Owl Games like how many megs it has and stuff.

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From: WILLIAM WRIGHT                         Number: 7819
  To: CLIFF FIVEASH                            Date: 12/01/93  3:51p
Subj: Peir 3                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Cliff Fiveash
 > (904)477-0210

 > p.s. I sent this private because I have customers who
 > are staunch
 >      advocates of Pier 3. :-) This is a private,
 > personal
 >      recommendation.
 > ___

Ahh, rememeber, ALL sysops can send private messages, so if your customers are
sysops, well they can read this!

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From: WILLIAM WRIGHT                         Number: 7820
  To: CLIFF FIVEASH                            Date: 12/01/93  3:54p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > RON, Is this Mitsumi the caddy or caddyless model ?
 > Internal or
 > external? Thanks,
 > Cliff
 > (904)477-0210
 > PENSACOLA,FL

The 350 MS version was the one where you pushed the front in and it came out,
enabling you to put the disc in, then you push it back in (a little more dusty
than the newer sliding tray model.

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 7821
  To: ADAM GILBERT                             Date: 12/01/93  8:18a
Subj: CD-ROM Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Adam!

Monday November 29 1993, Adam Gilbert writes to Pat Rickerson:


 ->> Hello PAUL!
 ->>
 ->> Sunday November 28 1993, PAUL LAUGHLIN writes to All:
 ->>
 ->  PL>> I am looking for a SLOW?? CD-ROM Drive to run on my BBS  I alrea
 ->  PL>> one running w/ speed all this will be for is files...  It has to
 ->  PL>> compatible with OS/2  And as cheap as possible...   Thank You...
 ->  PL>> Laughlin 1:116/110
 ->>
 ->> Have e few Hitachi 3500's don't know if they run under OS/2, but they
 ->> each with out card or two with card for $225
 ->> Pat
 ->>

 AG> Hi, Pat.  I saw your reply and might be interested...are the hitachi's
 AG> internal or external, whats their speed (i'm going to be using it for
 AG> the same purposes Paul would), and I'd need only one of 'em with a card.
 AG> If its a SCSI device, I don't need the card since I'm running a SCSI
 AG> cd-rom right now.

These run slow I think some one say they run about 500, what ever that means,
and they are internal, thanks for the reply
Pat

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From: JOHN THOMPSON                          Number: 7822
  To: JOHNNY HUDSON                            Date: 11/30/93 12:33p
Subj: Medical Cd's Wanted                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JH>  I'm looking for CD-ROMs that contain medical programs/information. 
JH>  Please leave info if you know of any or sell any. 

You can get all five volumes of the PDR (Physician's Desk Reference) and the
Merck Index on a cd-rom.  I think it goes for about $600 us.

 * KingQWK 1.05 # 39 * "And now," Max said, "Let the wild rumpus start!"
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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 7823
  To: STEVE DARCHICOURT                        Date: 11/26/93  7:35p
Subj: Re: Toshiba 3401b wanted                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 27 Nov 93 09:56pm, Steve Darchicourt wrote to Ken Matthews:

>     I have exactly what your looking for. I have 8 of the Toshiba drives
>     here and was just getting ready to buy a Camcorder. I'd be willing to
>     trade one for it.

Thanks Steve, Dang I just bought a Texel drive at a computer show this last
weekend. Thanks for the reply...

                        Ken

Happy Holidays To All...

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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 7824
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 11/26/93  8:36p
Subj: Re: Adult CD sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 28 Nov 93 02:38pm, Scott Raley wrote to Ken Matthews:

>     Ok, I will trade ya T&A 2 the maxx for PC Pix 1.  Each pay own
>     shipping?

Thanks Scott just sold it...

Happy Holidays To All...

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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 7825
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 11/30/93  7:42p
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Scott, I just sold Pic 1, but I have another one called Private Collection, 70
mini mivies "gl", 600 gifs. Menu drive for it all. I will ship 2nd day postal
2.90,, when I recieve your reply. I well hold this one until I here from you
one way or another. Also you best send you address again. It didn't look right
on this end. Mine is Ken Matthews, 5415 Third st. Verona, Pa. 15147...
               Thanks..
                   Ken


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From: SEAN WARD                              Number: 7826
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/30/93 11:59p
Subj: Computer Hardware                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for a multi-media computer. Must be at least a 486DX\33 with a 245 meg
hard drive. Willing to pay! If interested in selling one, E-MAIL Sean Ward at
The Twisted Platypus 1:109/626!
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 7827
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/01/93  9:08a
Subj: Return To Zork CD 4 Sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Return To Zork on CD for sale. Includes original packaging & docs.
        Asking $35 plus $3 postage (no postage if you're in the Kansas
        City area and can pick up).

        Leave message here or call 913-888-5201 ext.257 (M-F 8a-4p Central
        time, or leave voice mail).

- Heather
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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 7828
  To: JOHNNY HUDSON                            Date: 12/01/93  6:35p
Subj: Medical CD's Wanted                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 11-28-93 Johnny Hudson wrote to All... 
 
 JH> I'm looking for CD-ROMs that contain medical programs/information. 
 JH> Please leave info if you know of any or sell any. 
  
Johnny, I'm selling a ROM titled Emergency Medicine MEDLINE 1:1 
Winter 1992. It is a database with a search engine. Just type in a 
term or word you are looking for such as say Hypertension and then  
read the abstracts, articles, etc. that come up in the search. It goes 
back about 5 years worth of info. Fairly recent stuff. $15 plus 
postage if interested. >Paul< 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50 

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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 7829
  To: TED CONLEY                               Date: 11/30/93  4:03a
Subj: Cdrom Pricelist                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 11-27-93 TED CONLEY wrote to RICHARD CARTER... 
 
 TC> TM-->Please send me a copy of your CD-ROM catalog. 
 TC> Ted D. Conley 
 TC> 8452 Blackburn Avenue 
 TC> Los Angeles, CA  90048 
 TC>  * SLMR 2.1a * US Supreme Court - . 
On it's Way!!  Thanks!!! 
 
___ 
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 7830
  To: JIM ARCHER                               Date: 11/30/93  4:05a
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices11/23/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 11-27-93 Jim Archer wrote to Richard Carter... 
 
 JA> RC> QRZ! Ham Radio.................$13.00 
 JA> RC> Source Code....................$18.50 
 JA> RC> X11/GNU........................$18.50 
 JA> RC> Space and Astronomy............$18.50 
 JA> Whats on these??? Especailly Space and Astronomy? 
The descriptions are long -- there is a lot!!! 
Call us (612) 890-4750 and we'll tell you. 
 
___ 
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 7831
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/30/93  4:31a
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices11/30/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To: 1:282/31 
 
Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM's 
from:  ComputerHelp 
       PO Box 385041 
       Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
       Ph:  (612) 890-4750 
       Fax:  (612) 894-9411 
 
(as of 11/30/93) 
 
SIMTEL MSDOS...................$13.00 
CICA MS Windows................$13.00 
Hobbes OS/2....................$13.00 
Aminet Amiga...................$13.00 
Garbo MSDOS/Mac................$13.00 
Sprite OS......................$13.00 
QRZ! Ham Radio.................$13.00 
ADA Programming................$18.50 
GIGA Games.....................$18.50 
La Coleccion...................$18.50 
Nova for NeXTs.................$18.50 
Project Gutenberg..............$18.50 
Source Code....................$18.50 
X11/GNU........................$18.50 
Info-Mac.......................$25.50 
CUG Library....................$23.50 
Linux..........................$23.50 
Libris Britannia...............$34.00 
Space and Astronomy............$18.50 
 
***SPECIAL***SPECIAL***SPECIAL*** 
=>>> Order 3 at once and take an Extra $1 Off of Each <<<= 
(Limited Time Offer!!! Print and enclose this ad with 
  your order) 
 
 
Shipping:  1-3 discs in one order = $4.50, 4-10 discs 
           in one order = $6.50. 
(MN residents add 6.5% sales tax). 
 
All prices subject to change without notice. 
 
"Yes Mildred, we do take personal cheques!" 
 
All orders by pre-payment, (you want cheap prices....); 
send to address above.  Call with questions. 
(Sorry, we don't accept credit cards:  they add to the 
price and we want to be able to offer you the CHEAPEST 
PRICES AVAILABLE.  "Thank You for Your Support!!! 
-  Richard Carter 
___ 
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 7832
  To: JOHNNY HUDSON                            Date: 11/30/93  5:26a
Subj: Medical CDROMs                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Johnny, 
You were requesting info on Medical programs on CDROM. 
I have a list. 
Please fax me at 612-894-9411 with a fax # where I can fax 
the list to you. 
Though we do not carry them, if you find specific ones of 
interest, we will locate for you and quote price. 
Thanks, 
Richard Carter 
ComputerHelp 
PO Box 385041 
Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
(612) 890-4750 
Fax: 612-894-9411 
 
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 7833
  To: DON HOOKER                               Date: 12/01/93 12:00a
Subj: Cd Price List                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 11-29-93 Don Hooker wrote to Richard Carter... 
 
 DH> Richard, please send me your current CD price list including prices on 
 DH> CD caddies... thanx 
 DH> Don Hooker 
 DH> 506 Barnes Drive 
 DH> Brandon,Fla. 33511 
Dan, 
Current pricing schedule is on the way. 
Sorry, we are still looking for a reliable supplier of Caddies, will 
let you know as soon as we find one "AT A GREAT PRICE" . 
 
___ 
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 7834
  To: SEAN YOUNG                               Date: 12/01/93 12:00a
Subj: Good Deals                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To: 1:282/31 
 
Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM's 
from:  ComputerHelp 
       PO Box 385041 
       Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
       Ph:  (612) 890-4750 
       Fax:  (612) 894-9411 
 
(as of 12/01/93) 
 
SIMTEL MSDOS...................$13.00 
CICA MS Windows................$13.00 
Hobbes OS/2....................$13.00 
Aminet Amiga...................$13.00 
Garbo MSDOS/Mac................$13.00 
Sprite OS......................$13.00 
QRZ! Ham Radio.................$13.00 
ADA Programming................$18.50 
GIGA Games.....................$18.50 
La Coleccion...................$18.50 
Nova for NeXTs.................$18.50 
Project Gutenberg..............$18.50 
Source Code....................$18.50 
X11/GNU........................$18.50 
Info-Mac.......................$25.50 
CUG Library....................$23.50 
Linux..........................$23.50 
Libris Britannia...............$34.00 
Space and Astronomy............$18.50 
 
***SPECIAL***SPECIAL***SPECIAL*** 
=>>> Order 3 at once and take an Extra $1 Off of Each <<<= 
(Limited Time Offer!!! Print and enclose this ad with 
  your order.  Good through 12/31/93!!!!) 
 
Shipping:  1-3 discs in one order = $4.50, 4-10 discs 
           in one order = $6.50. 
(MN residents add 6.5% sales tax). 


All prices subject to change without notice. 
 
"Yes Mildred, we do take personal cheques!" 
 
All orders by pre-payment, (you want cheap prices....); 
send to address above.  Call with questions. 
(Sorry, we don't accept credit cards:  they add to the 
price and we want to be able to offer you the CHEAPEST 
PRICES AVAILABLE.  "Thank You for Your Support!!! 
-  Richard Carter 
___ 
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 7835
  To: NINO FAGAN                               Date: 12/01/93 12:00a
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices11/23/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 11-28-93 Nino Fagan wrote to Lawrence Mintz... 
 
 NF>  Lawrence Mintz wrote 
 NF> ------------------ 
 NF> :>What you are seeing is the difference between manufacturer's 
 NF> :>suggested retail price....... 
 NF> ------------------ 
 NF> Richard is still placing this ad and has not responded to my 
 NF> inquiry.  I'll wait for his explanation of such LOW prices. 
 NF> 
Nino,

I sent you an explaination 2-3 days ago.  RE:  We (and others) purchase 
"As Resellers" from manufacturers.  In this case, it's Walnut Creek. 
We buy in large quantities expressly for Resale.  For doing so, we buy 
at dealer pricing. 
You can to if you would like to go to the expense of: 
-Forming a business 
-Registering it with your State Dept of Commerce or Secretary of State 
  (that's more $$$) 
-Register with the IRS as a business and get a Fed Employer Tax Number 
-Register with your state for a state tax account (if your state requires) 
-Invest a few thousand dollars of your hard earned money in inventory 
-Hope like hell that some unforseen variable doesn't take your market away 
 (i.e. change in technology, change in members of the market, change, change, 
       change). 
 
So which would you prefer?  Buy small qty's at $13 - $25 or do the above. 
If you wish to check us out, the ph on our Sec of State is: 612-296-2803, 
and Walnut Creek is (510) 674-0783. 
 
Hope we can "Earn Your Business". 
 
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 7836
  To: DON HOOKER                               Date: 12/01/93 12:00a
Subj: Cd Price List                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 11-29-93 Don Hooker wrote to Richard Carter... 
 
 DH> Richard, please send me your current CD price list including prices on 
 DH> CD caddies... thanx 
 DH> Don Hooker 
 DH> 506 Barnes Drive 
 DH> Brandon,Fla. 33511 
Our price schedule is on its way.  (Still trying to find a US mgfr of Caddies 
that makes 'em that we will not get back defective.  Will let you know when we 
find one!!!) 
 
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From: DAVE KALWISHKY                         Number: 7837
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/01/93  8:07p
Subj: Southern Beauties                       Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike, last week I ordered the Southern Beauties CD from you and it showed
up and I really have enjoyed it.  The gal that took my oredr was very
friendly on the phone and the CD showed up before I expected it, THANKS!

     -=> Dave <=-     Sun  11-28-1993


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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 7838
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/01/93  2:27a
Subj: CD BB for trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have BB 3 vol.1 I would like to trade for another adult CD, preferably T & A
2 the Maxx, or Southern Beauties.  Willing ot consider all trades.
Greg

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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 7839
  To: CLIFF FIVEASH                            Date: 12/01/93  4:01p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

A life form named CLIFF beamed aboard the Enterprise and said:

RL>Brand new Mitsumi CD ROM drive, in the box with all docs and accessor
RL>This is the single speed, 350ms model. Got it as a gift but already h
RL>one.
RL>        $150 plus 1/2 shipping.

CF>RON, Is this Mitsumi the caddy or caddyless model ? Internal or
CF>external? Thanks,
CF>Cliff

Sorry, sold.

Ron in Tampa
73163.124@compuserve.com
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From: DANIEL PARDUE                          Number: 7840
  To: MIKE FITZSIMONDS                         Date: 12/01/93 11:04p
Subj: Sb and drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I suggest you buy the Creative Omni Drive. It is a Matsushita(sp?)/Panasonic
CR-563 Double spin drive. It is a caddy-less model (tray type). It works well
with the SBPro interface and comes with the drivers for it. Cables are
included. It is a very nice drive.

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From: CASEY ROMANSKI                         Number: 7841
  To: RICK BAUER                               Date: 12/01/93  9:50p
Subj: Adult cd's to Trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

--> Casey Romanski Quotes a message written by Rick Bauer
--> to All on 12-01-93 02:23 saying:
RB> I have the following cd's i would like to trade for
RB> other cd's 
RB> 
RB> 1. FAO #3 adult cd jam packed disk many topics
RB> 2. FAO Gold 1 the best of the FAO adult series on one disk.
RB> 
RB> If you have adult cd's you would like to trade let me know.
RB> 


How about Hot Pix #4 for FAO Gold? Reply here or at my BBS in the tagline. 

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 7842
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/01/93  4:46a
Subj: Warning!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Moderator, this may be off topic but I will keep it short.

Do not deal with the following person for trade or sale:

Blaine Richard
1066 Timberline Rd
Apopka, FL 32703

Why?  He has my disc I sent a month ago and I have nothing in return.
Two phone calls produced only promises from him.  If anyone know this
ass tell him to call me, he has my voice #.  Now I am someone shy of
trading or buying from other than a commercial place.  Thanks for
listening.  Randy


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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 7843
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/01/93  4:35p
Subj: Multimedia Audio Collection             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the Multimedia Audio Collection for sale.  One CD comes with the
following programs on it(usually on individual cd's):

Multimedia Sound studio
Sound Effects Library
World of Music Sampler
Music Mentor
Recording Session
Band in a Box
NotePlay

All on the one CD!  My price on this is $25 + $3 for P&H(thats 2-day air).
Pre-payments prefered, but if you HAVE to go COD, you cover the above price
plus the COD fee.

Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 7844
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/01/93  4:35p
Subj: Sound Effects Library!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have sound effects library on cd.  This is selling for $19 or more.  My price
is $10 + $3 P&H.  If interested, reply or call.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7845
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/01/93  9:08a
Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Do you have the Chestnut cd, gifs galore for $10?  if so please
>>    send me an address of where to send the money.

>>    thanks
>>    Scott Raley


Yes we do !

Please call us at 800-243-0517 anytime and we'll give you the information
you need.

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7846
  To: MICHAEL COLLIER                          Date: 12/01/93  9:08a
Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>>**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S **************
BO>>Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00  Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SC
BO>>NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare   - $379.00  NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SC
BO>>Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $249.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SC
BO>>Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $739.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1169.  -SC
BO>>Texel Int 245ms w/ctl   - $369.00  Texel Ext 245ms Bare  - $469.00 -SC
BO>>Texel Int 3021 Bare  Dr - $189.00  Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SC
BO>>Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $389.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SC



>>      Hi Boris, can you get the NEC 38 portable 2x speed drive
>>      and, if so, at what price? Don't need an interface. . .

>>     thanx

Yes we do Michael and it's priced at $249.00, plus we'll throw in a
copy of Groilers Encyclopedia for only $25. more !!

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be glad to
help you out.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7847
  To: JOHN PEARCE                              Date: 12/02/93  3:26a
Subj: Re: F'Reqing your catalog               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Hi Boris.

>>    I'm doing my Christmas shopping <G> and wanted to get a copy
>>    of your catalog.  I tried f'reqing it on Sunday (11/28) but
>>    something was wrong.  My log shows "remote system did not
>>    respond" which means there was a CONNECT but the systems
>>    failed to handshake.  My system aborted the file request after
>>    five failed tries.

>>    Tonight, I tried again to f'req your catalog but no luck.  The
>>    response from your system is shown below.

>>    I'd still like to get your catalog but I'm not going to spend
>>    any more of my dimes to get it. <G>  How about if you send it
>>    to me?  Please send it to my point address 1:128/13.1 (the
>>    bossnode will forward the file just fine).

That's strange!! We have been receiving file requests from all over the
world and so far it looks like everyone has pick the above up as well as
the new update file.

I'll check into it and see if there's anything we can do with it. I do
know our system will not allow file requests from unlisted nodes, could
that be the problem ??

In the meantime, I'll see if we can shoot you a copy !!

Thanks for your interest...........

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7848
  To: BRUCE NUNNALLY                           Date: 12/02/93  3:26a
Subj: Re: Learning to speak German by Hyperglot  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I am looking for a US dealer for the Hyperglot
>>    CDROM Learning to Speak German.

>>    Pls reply with price and order info, preferably
>>    telephone order line.

>>    Thanks,

We have it Bruce ! It's a six disk set with manual !!  This is one of the
best language programs on cd.

Interested, please feel free to give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime
and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Merry Xmas, Happy Hanukak, Feliz Navidad, etc, etc, etc
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7849
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/02/93  3:27a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       A L L  N E W  C D  "S O  M U C H  M O D E M  M A D N E S S"

   7,200 Files             Over 600+ Megs                BBS Ready
   Rip Graphics - BBS Doors - BBS Programs - Modem Utils - Ham Radio
 Desqview - Ansi Graphics - Programming - OS/2 Communcation - Comm Prgs
 Networking Utils - Netmail Progs - Win Communcation - Transfer Protocol
 and a whole lot more......
                              Price - $25.00

 ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: DOUG THRUSH @ 924/1                    Number: 7850
  To: DENNIS THRUSH                            Date: 12/01/93  7:38p
Subj: Cd Drive                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DT>When did you get a CD drive?  Oh, Thanks for the modem.  See you in
DT>the general area.


Glad to see you got that modem up and running.  I got a CDROM
back about five months ago.  The PX had a multi-media sale and I
got just CDROM player.  Now I know that I should have just spent
the extra money and got the big package that included the  sound
card.  I found out that Chessmaster 3000 a game on of the package
disks' won't play without having a sound card installed.  I'm not
sure why I can't play a game of chess without hearing it in
stereo.  I look for you in the GENERAL of COMMON conference.  Will you 
be staying with FidoNet or will you also be over in Rime.

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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 7851
  To: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                         Date: 12/01/93  9:02p
Subj: Re: CD's for Sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Jeff Collingwood to Eddie Phillips <=-

 JC> Hello Eddie!

 JC> In a message to Jeff Collingwood <11/29/93> Eddie Phillips wrote:

 EP>  -=> Quoting Jeff Collingwood to All <=-

 EP>  JC> I have the follow CD's for sale for $10 ea plus shipping (about
 EP>  JC> $3 each):

 EP>  JC> Mega CD-ROM2
 EP>  JC> Colossal Cookbook

 EP> Could you give me some info on these ??  I assume the Mega CD-ROM2 is a C
 EP> of shareware....if so, how old is it ??  And, is the Colossal Cookbook a
 EP> database of recipes ??

 JC> There is no date on the Mega CD-ROM disc but I have had it for
 JC> about a year and it was current then.  The Colossal Cookbook is a
 JC> collection of recipies and programs, not a database.
 JC> ...Jeff...

Is there a front-end search engine on the Colossal Cookbook that at least
categorizes and maybe searches through the collection ??
 
... Voice: 919-870-6926 (eves/weekends)
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From: TIM MORGAN                             Number: 7852
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 12/02/93 12:15a
Subj: CD's 4-Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->                       S A Y L O R   E N T E R P R I S E S
->                           ( 3 1 7 )   8 8 1 - 9 3 9 1
->                 SHIPPING AND HANDLING CHARGE IS $4.00 PER ORDER
->
-> 9000 SOUNDS
->      500 Megabytes of sound files for Sound Blaster, Midi, WAV, Adlib
->      Speaker, and etc.  Many utilities and players.
->
-> AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONE DIRECTORY with ZIP+ (set)  - - - $24.00
->      The American Business Phone Book and the new 9 digit Zip Code Di
->      Add Zip +4 to all your mailing.
->
-> AMERICAN VISTA ATLAS (MPC for Windows only) - - - $25.00
->      Maps, photos, and facts for each of the states.  All cross refer
->      the 1990 census.
->
-> ARTHUR'S TEACHER TROUBLE (MPC for Windows only) - - - $23.00
->      This an MPC educational disc with music and animation. Very well
->
-> BIBLES AND RELIGION - - - $14.00
->      Includes all the popular version of both the OLD and NEW testame
->      Book of Mormans, Lexicons and Concordances.  Has study guides an
->
-> CLIP ART GOLIATH - - - $14.00
->      Over 11,000 image files in PCX and TIF formats.  Also includes s
->      color TIF/PCX, MAC, and GIF formats. Many subjects.
->
-> COLORMAGIC PC/MAC - - - $22.00
->      Over 600 Megs of 3D COLOR clip art.  Royalty free. Windows and M
->      librarian.
->
-> DICTIONARIES AND LANGUAGES - - - $14.00
->      A giant compilation of dictionaries, thesauruses, word processor
->      checkers, glossaries, cross references and much more.
->
-> DINOSAUR ADVENTURES - - - $20.00
->      Get you dinosaur adventure started today with this fun CD.  Over
->      Dinosaurs, facts, figures, stats, video and audio.
->
-> DR. GAMES  - - - $15.00
->      Adventure, arcade, card, sports, strategy, puzzles and more.  BB
->
-> DR. MUSIC  - - - $15.00
->      Music editors, MOD, MIDI, Sound Cards, ROL, VOC, WAV and more.
->
-> DR. WINDOWS  - - - $15.00
->      3,440 files of everything you need in windows format.  BBS ready
->
-> ENCYCLOPEDIA OF CLIP ART - - - $19.00
->      11,000 files.  51 directories.  500 Megs of BBS ready software.
->      clips.  65 adult clips.  Has keyword search.
->
-> ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUND - - - $14.00
->      Sound effects, voices, music clips, full length scores, digitall
->
-> GAMES 1993 - - - $22.00
->      6,000 plus game files.  Over 500 Megs.  Files as recent as April
->      Includes sports, arcade, casino, solutions, and more.
->
-> GARDENING  - - - $14.00
->      Help for the home gardener.  Photos, planning, care, landscaping
->      other helpfull information.  Also has clipart section.
->
-> HACKER CHRONICLES  - - - $18.00
->      Tour of the computer Underground.  Disc was 12 years in the maki
->
-> HOUSE OF GAMES - - - $15.00
->      Hundreds of exciting action, adventure and suspense games.  90%
->      from CD.
->
-> LAN MASTER  - - - $20.00
->      Over 1,000 progarams and references for network users. Utilities
->      patches,
->      multiplayer games, communications, and etc.
->
-> MONSTER MEDIA '93 - - - $22.00
->      1993 update for Jan, Feb, Mar, and April 1993.  Disc is publishe
->      times a year with over 400 megs of new files.  1993 files. No du
->
-> MULTIMEDIA ANIMALS ENCYCLOPEDIA (MPC for Windows only) - - - $25.00
->      Comprehensive reference to over 2,000 birds, fish, mammals, and
->      on one easy to use CD.
->
-> NIGHT OWL 10 - - - $28.00
->      This disk is loaded with Shareware programs.  The Night Owl seri
->
-> NIGHT OWL GAMES  - - - $18.00
->      Most current and popular games from some of the leading games wr
->      Has full search and retrieve function. Two thirds of the games a
->      releases.
->
-> NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS  - - - $23.00
->      600 Megabytes of GIF files.  4,600 files are on this disc.  Has
->      search and retrieve functions.  BBS ready.
->
-> PHOTO CD (Kodak) - - - $16.00
->      Access software to Photo CD.  Kodak for DOS.
->
-> PIER 3  - - - $25.00
->      640 Megabytes of new shareware in the Pier standard of excellenc
->      release has a newly designed, high performance interface.  BBS r
->
-> PRECISION MAPPING - - - $69.00
->      Street mapping program that also allows you to cut & paste, inte
->      print, search, and calculate mileage. Includes phone book.
->
-> PROPHONE (3 Disc Set) - - - $25.00
->      1992 closeout of the residential and business editions.
->
-> PROPHONE BUSINESS DIRECTORY 1993 - - - $26.00
->      The business disk of the Profone set.  Lookup by S.I.C. code, na
->      number, etc.  Prints mailing labels.
->
-> PUBLISHERS PARADISE (with manual) - - - $19.00
->      Over 1,000 clip art images of PROFESSIONAL QUALITY for Windows,
->      Perfect, etc.  Includes 150 fonts.
->
-> SHAREWARE 93 (volume 2) - - - $20.00
->      Excellent shareware disc of over 5,000 files.  It has 620 Megs o
->      1993 files.  BBS ready.
->
-> SHAREWARE EXPLORER (4 disc set)  - - - $35.00
->      26,000 files are on this set.  It is a complete colection with 3
->      of DOS files and 7,000 windows files.  BBS ready.
->
->
->   If there is something that you don't see here call, Or leave me a N
->
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From: DAN ROBINSON                           Number: 7853
  To: KIRK REEVES                              Date: 12/01/93  4:48p
Subj: CD-Rom Wanted!!!! Cheap!!!!!!           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* On 11-29-93 at 23:54 Kirk Reeves uttered these remarkable words to Lee Dette
KR> The prices for CD-Roms are dropping.  A couple of days ago I
KR> got a brand new panasonic  double-spin with kodak-photo
KR> capability for $190.00  (Plus the dealer threw in a cd-rom
KR> disk)
KR> Of course I was hunting for a little while for this until I
KR> found this.
KR> Currently, the model I got the Panasonic 562-b sells between
KR> $225 and $275

Would you mind sharing with us where you found this great deal????

Dan

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From: DAVE BAKKER                            Number: 7854
  To: CHRIS CONKLIN                            Date: 11/30/93  7:55a
Subj: Looking for                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

( 11-14-93 ) Chris Conklin wrote to Dave Bakker about Looking for

CC-Hi Dave
CC-
CC-   How about the "Plant Doctor" .   I can ship it to you for $29.00.

Is this geared for the average home owner, or would it have more useful
information on it?
I have a nursery and I like to be able to have a good reference disk on
plants and all the diffent species and varieties, where you can see the
different plants and see how they will mature and how to seed hem etc.
Does this disk have this or does it have like only 1 or 200 plants that
the average homeowner might want around the house and the most common
diseases that they would get.

Am I clear on what I'm looking for?

I've gotten too many disks in the past that I was very disappointed with
as they were not even close to what I was expexting.


CC-Let me know if you are interested
CC-
CC-C-3 Production Systems
CC-915-944-7187  Evenings are the best time to catch us.
CC-
CC-
CC-PO Box 60144
CC-San Angelo, Tx
CC-     76906
CC-

Thanks for your time

Dave Bakker


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From: LYNNDEL HUMPHREYS                      Number: 7855
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/01/93  6:22p
Subj: CATALOGUES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PC CD ROM retailers may send me their FREE catalogues to:
 
        Lynndel Humphreys
        5121 Mortier Avenue
        Orlando, Fl 32812

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From: TOM JORGENSON                          Number: 7856
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 11/30/93  9:24a
Subj: New Catalog                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (28 Nov 93) Ismail Arslangiray wrote to All...

 IA> Our new catalog and monthly specials are about to be mailed. If you
 IA> like to receive our catalogs, please contact us via netmail, fax or
 IA> postal service.

Please send a copy to: Tom Jorgenson, 3332 Highgate Lane, St. Charles, MO
63301. Thanks!

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From: RICHARD BUENTELLO                      Number: 7857
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/01/93 10:39p
Subj: COMPTONS ENCYCL.                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a good deal on Comptons interactive encyclopedia?


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From: JAMES CLEVENGER                        Number: 7858
  To: ERIC ENGELMANN                           Date: 12/01/93  5:44p
Subj: Re: Technical Shareware                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can you give more information on your C/C++ offering?  Are we talking about
ANSI standard source code, or a bunch of reference articles, or what?


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From: JIM FOWLER                             Number: 7859
  To: PAUL LAUGHLIN                            Date: 12/02/93 12:29a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Paul Laughlin to Byron Krohn <=-
 > Mitsumi LU002S CD-ROM drive, interface card, cables &
 > software for sale...
 PL> ... If it WILL run under OS/2 I will be
 PL> interested...   What is the speed on that?   Thank You...

 Paul,

 PMFJI, but I thought I'd let you and any other fellow OS/2
 enthusiasts know that in the past few days IBM has released
 the ship level OS/2 2.1 CDROM drivers for Mitsumi drives.
 The beta version of these drivers did not support the LU002
 but the ship level drivers do. The LU002 drives were also
 known as known as the Tandy CDR-1000 or BSR-6800.

 Supported Features
 ------------------
 The OS/2 Mitsumi CD-ROM device driver (MITFX001.ADD) supports the
 following features:

   * Reads data from CD-ROM discs conforming to the High Sierra/ISO-9660
     file formats.
   * Plays audio from standard audio CDs or mixed mode CD-ROM discs
     containing both data and audio
   * Multisession photo CD  (except for CRMC-LU002)
   * Reads data from Mode 2 Form 1 or Mode 2 Form 2 sector formats
   * MMPM/2 Software Motion Video
   * MMPM/2 CD Audio Player
   * Software lock, unlock and eject (Models FX001 and FX001D only)
   * Data transfer via software polling or interrupts

 Also released in the last few days, ship level OS/2 2.1 drivers
 for the Sony 31A, the Creative Labs OmniCD, the IBM ISA CDROM
 and the Panasonic 521, 522, 523, 562 and 563.

 You can find these new drivers on Compuserve, the IBM PC Co. BBS
 919-517-0001 and numerous OS/2 oriented BBSs.

 Regards,
 Jim Fowler



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From: THOMAS MENG                            Number: 7860
  To: FRANK SESLER                             Date: 12/02/93  6:52a
Subj: Busty Babes II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FS> I will take it.  Can you ship COD.  If not let me know how to get the 
FS> funds to you.  If COD possible.  Ship to:
 
  Frank just send a money order to... 
    Thomas Meng 
  81 Cedar Terrace 
  Hilton, NY. 14468 - 1443 
  
   The day I receive it is the day it will go out.... 
                               Tom
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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 7861
  To: PAUL SWIDER                              Date: 12/03/93  7:18a
Subj: Medical CD's Wanted                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Paul - I'll give you $15 shipped for this.  Jerry

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From: CRAIG REILLY                           Number: 7862
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/01/93 10:35p
Subj: Wanted...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hitachi 3500 with controller card and soft ware, can run up to 4
-> drives on one controller card, $125

I'll keep you in mind...Expenses are tight right now...I am taking care of an
uninsured motorist problem right now, and I have to pay sales tax, etc. on a
new car...Sorry...

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 7863
  To: CRAIG REILLY                             Date: 12/02/93 11:48a
Subj: Wanted...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CR>Is there anyone trying to sell a CD-ROM Drive for under $100.00
CR>bucks...I know it is asking for a lot...because they are
CR>expensive...but It would help my company out a lot...THANX!!

I've been trying to sell (locally) a slightly used Mitsumi LU002S, and have
been asking $125 or best offer.  I see in today's mailbag somebody else
offering the same model for $115.  I'll match that price if you're interested. 
It comes with the cables and disc, and it's very own (and required) 8-bit card.
 It's too slow for MPC, of course, but still good enough for any BBS
application, and most uses around the office.  IBM just released a new driver
that now supports this drive in OS/2.

What kind of company is it?  I see you are calling from Providence.  I used to
live in that town, back in the early '60s when I was stationed at Davisville.

If you aren't interested in the drive, perhaps somebody else reading this might
be.  I can receive netmail in care of the origin BBS.

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 7864
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 12/02/93  4:00a
Subj: New Catalog                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ronald Green said the following Ismail Arslangiray :
-RG>     Send me a copy of your new catalog.  Thanks....
-RG>          Ronald Green  399 Westmeade DR.  Gretna, LA  70056

And also to:
              Bryan Cotter  710 West Meade Dr. Nashville, Tn 37205

Wow, on the same street in two different states.  Now that's a long road. <G>
I'd like to get everyone else's catalogs to... So if ya got 'em, send 'em...

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From: DAVID DOYLE                            Number: 7865
  To: MIKE HIBBELER                            Date: 12/01/93  5:53p
Subj: CD-ROM BB FOR SALE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You got the wrong David Doyle!



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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 7866
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 12/02/93 11:28a
Subj: Cdrom Pricelist                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Richard Carter uttered the following to Ted Conley :
 -RC> TC> TM-->Please send me a copy of your CD-ROM catalog.
 -RC> On it's Way!!  Thanks!!!

Could ya send one here too?

        Bryan Cotter
        710 W. Meade Dr.
        Nashville, Tn 37205

Thanks...

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From: RICK MORRIS                            Number: 7867
  To: WC HILL                                  Date: 12/02/93  9:07a
Subj: cd storage boxes wanted                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  Occasionally I'll get a CD that comes in a cardboard wrapper/cover.
 > What I'd like to find is a plastic storage box/device that I can
 > store
 > these disks in, individually. Is there anything out there that other
 > users have found that works or is available commercially?

Check with your local Radio Shack...

Rick

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From: MATT HENDRIX                           Number: 7868
  To: ANYONE                                   Date: 12/02/93  7:49p
Subj: cds                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        I am looking for a Forbidden Subjects cd rom...  I know I can order it
for 39 bucks, but I wanted to know if anyone had it and wanted to sell it.. 
Also, anyone have any current shareware discs that they want to sell???

Matt Hendrix


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7869
  To: DAVID HEPKIN                             Date: 11/30/93  9:25p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DH>I was just wondering if you could recommend a good PCX Clipart/DeskTop
DH>Publishing CD?

Three very nice discs are Encyclopedia of Clipart @ $26, Clipart Heaven
@ $25, and Publisher's Dream Disc @ $35, which comes with a 184-page book
showing all the clipart and typefonts included.  All in stock.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7870
  To: STEPHEN LOCHMILLER                       Date: 11/30/93  9:26p
Subj: NEW CD LIST PT 1                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SL>I am just beginning to set up a BBS and am going to have a total of
SL>4 six pack CD Rom players for my users.  How can I tell from your list
SL>which ones are ok to use on a BBS

You can download or freq our catalog, "STARCAT.ZIP", which has descriptions
of all the CD's, as well as info on which ones are BBS-compatible.  If you
would like to d/l it from our BBS, the # is 509-457-0206, or you can freq
it from: 1:3407/101.

Thanks,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7871
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 11/30/93  9:26p
Subj: NEW CD LIST pt 1                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CB> > Monster Media 93 vol 2 (New!)....29.00

CB>Mike, if this is your regular price for all future releases as well (plus
sys
CB>shipping) can I get this sent on a regular basis as soon as you get them?
You
CB>have all my credit card info on file.

Chris,

No problem.  I'll put you down for a pre-order on release 3, which should be
out sometime around the first of the year.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7872
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/30/93  9:26p
Subj: HOBBES OS/2 10/93: $16                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #1:  NEW CD ARRIVALS   |
           |____________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

 20TH CENTURY SPORTS * Multimedia journal of sport history from 1900 on.$29
 ADVENTURES IN HEAVEN * Ultimate game collection!.......................$19
 A.S.P. SHAREWARE * Finally! A CD full of works from ASP authors........$22
 BUSTY BABES VOL 2 * The FIRST serious "soft" adult CD for BBS!.........$29
 DUNE * Exciting multimedia action game on CD! Great animation & sound..$39
 FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$24
 FRACTUNES * Colorful, ever-changing graphics synched with music........$30
 GAMES COLLECTION * A pure-games CD featuring 90% '93 file dates! BBS...$26
>GIF'S GALORE 9/93 * Thousands of new, brilliant, color .GIF images.....$16
 GIRLS OF MARDI GRAS * New "R" adult film showcasing wild party girls...$43
 GROLIER'S MPC 6.0 * The latest edition of Grolier's encyclopedia.......$45
 HEALTH & MEDICAL DIRECTORY * Guide to all doctors & hospitals in U.S...$27
>HOBBES OS/2 10/93 * The latest version w/ 3000 current OS/2 files!.....$16
 HOLLYWOOD THE BIZARRE * Lives & deaths of the stars w/ 1 hr. of voices.$43
 HORROR & SCI-FI FILMS * Full details of over 2300 films w/ 100s of pix.$43
 IMAGES OF NASA * The finest collection of authentic NASA photos........$25
>JEWEL CASES * They always break, so buy extras!.........................$1
 LA COLECCION * 600+mb of recent shareware w/ description is Spanish....$24
 LAN MASTER * High quality Networking utilities & technical notes.......$25
 LEARNING HEAVEN * Mind challenging educational games...................$19
 LINUX OPERATING SYSTEM * Unix-like operating system for PC's...........$29
 MAD DOG MCCREE * Great shoot 'em up game with real, full-motion video..$39
 MONSTER MEDIA 93 VOL 2 * 630+mb from May thru Aug. 93 with manual!.....$29
 MULTIMEDIA MAGIC COLLECTION * Complete commercial programs & M/M demos.$28
 NEWSWEEK INTERACTIVE * An exciting look back at Newsweek's top stories.$26
 OS/2BOX * The best, most recent OS/2 shareware CD. Fully BBS-ready.....$29
 -->SPECIAL PAK: OS/2BOX + HOBBES 10/93.................................$39
 PC KARAOKE * Complete Karaoke package with microphone! Great CD sound..$68
 PC SIG WINDOWS * Full of the latest Windows shareware..................$19
 PROJECT GUTENBERG * Texts from Project Gutenberg for 1991-1993.........$22
 PUBLISHER'S POWERHOUSE * 750 TrueType fonts + 8200 PCX images w/ book!.$29
 REEL CLIPS * 600mb of royalty-free digital video clips.................$25
 RETURN TO ZORK * Live-action video game w/ Hollywood actors. Great!....$50
 SHAREWARE 93 VOL 2 * Sep. 93 release w/ all new 1993 files! BBS-ready..$20
 SO MUCH SPACE! * A galaxy full of breathtaking scenes from space.......$24
 SOLAR HEAVEN * Nice collection of astronomy & astrology programs.......$23
 SPACE & ASTRONOMY * Over 7000 image & shareware files on astronomy.....$27
 SPACE SHUTTLE * Multimedia adventure aboard the shuttle w/ 50 missions.$25
 STAR TREK COLLECTIBLES * CD-ROM encyclopedia of Star Trek memorabilia..$59
>TECH ARSENAL * 1000's of recent, programming and techincal files.......$22
 WIN PLATINUM * Very nice new Windows CD with all programs ready to run.$24
 WINDOWS COLLECTION * A Windows-only CD with ALL '93 file dates! BBS....$26
 WORLD FACT BOOK M/M * Full multimedia guide for researchers or "spies".$23

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7873
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/30/93  9:26p
Subj: CD-ROM PACKS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #5: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS   |
         |________________________________________________________|


   1. Night Owl 7.0        2. Night Owl 8.0       3. Busty Babes vol 2
      Night Owl 8.0           Night Owl 9.0          Digital Dreams
      Night Owl 9.0           Night Owl 10           Amateur Models
      -------------           ------------           --------------
      $59                     $69                    $79


   4. Night Owl 9.0        5. Night Owl 10        6. Pier 2
      Night Owl 10.0          Pier 3                 Pier 3
      --------------          ------                 ------
      $49                     $49                    $49


   7. Software Vault 1     8. Empire Clipart      9. Night Owl 10
      Software Vault 2        Clipart Heaven         Pier 3
      Software Vault Gold     Ency. of Clipart       Software Vault Gold
      -------------------     ----------------       -------------------
      $57                     $59                    $79


  10. CD Winbox           11. Giga Games         12. OS/2Box
      Windows 93              Game Arena             Hobbes OS/2
      ----------              ----------             -----------
      $44                     $35                    $39


  13. Fantazia Fonts      14. OS/2Box           15. Shareware Online 1
      Fontmaster 2            CD Powerbox           Shareware Online 2
      Too Many Typefonts      CD Winbox             So Much Shareware 3
      ------------------      ---------             -------------------
      $49                     $49                   $69

PLUS, AN ADDED BONUS . . . . .

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: THOMAS MENG                            Number: 7874
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/02/93  4:39p
Subj: Busty Babes II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PR> Will offer $22 shipped
PR> Pat
 
  I have a offer of $25.00 in which I accepted. Lets see what happens and I'll
get back to you... 
                                      Tom
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From: JEFF HUBERT                            Number: 7875
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/02/93  6:57p
Subj: games and cd-roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I think we were talking about the shareware extravaganza 4-disc cd-rom
shareware set. I will send it UPS, and based on your origin of your message it
won't take long to get to you so 2-day air would be a waste. 
I think, including shipping, that $31 is a fair price, as I will send it UPS,
and the disk is normally sold for $50-$60 new.
Unless you want to bargain further, you can send a check to
Jeff Hubert
3212 Rosway Ct.
Glenelg, MD 21737
My phone number is (410) 442-2726 is you need anything else.
thanks for replying.

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From: MICHAEL GUIDRY                         Number: 7876
  To: PAUL SWIDER                              Date: 12/02/93 10:13p
Subj: Medical Cd's Wanted                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 01 Dec 93, Paul Swider stated to Johnny Hudson:

PS>On 11-28-93 Johnny Hudson wrote to All...
PS>
PS> JH> I'm looking for CD-ROMs that contain medical programs/informat
PS> JH> Please leave info if you know of any or sell any.
PS>
PS>Johnny, I'm selling a ROM titled Emergency Medicine MEDLINE 1:1
PS>Winter 1992. It is a database with a search engine. Just type in a
PS>term or word you are looking for such as say Hypertension and then
PS>read the abstracts, articles, etc. that come up in the search. It g
PS>back about 5 years worth of info. Fairly recent stuff. $15 plus
PS>postage if interested. >Paul<
PS>

I'll take it if he doesn't.  Just let me know how you want to make the
deal.

... The pain-in-the-butt who made Marv write Win_Mail
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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7877
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/02/93  8:18p
Subj: RBBS FMS CD-ROM SETUPS                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>   Terry Blount's "Cream of the Crop II" released 11/12/93 for $28.50!
>BBS READY, with RBBS extended description support from the Blue Parrot RBBS
>Discount for sysops $25.50 - We are distributors for this release!
          We don't markup our shipping costs, like other dealers:-)
      On-line for review & IMMEDIATE SHIPPING orders may also be placed
via: Joe Rinehart, The Blue Parrot RBBS, 1:157/479@fido, 8:965/13@rbbs,
18:176/711@kesher, or 2@2659 wwiv.  ZyXEL 16.8 data/fax: 216.296.4446,
voice: 216.296.9831, or voice: 216.296.1633 6pm-mid EST.
>RBBS FMS complete conference setup FREQ avail as CC2RBBS.zip(648k)w/instrc.
If ordered from us, we'll give you the password:)

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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 7878
  To: WILLIAM WRIGHT                           Date: 12/02/93  3:04p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

A life form named WILLIAM beamed aboard the Enterprise and said:

 > RON, Is this Mitsumi the caddy or caddyless model ?
 > Internal or
 > external? Thanks,
 > Cliff
 > (904)477-0210
 > PENSACOLA,FL

WW>The 350 MS version was the one where you pushed the front in and it came
WW>enabling you to put the disc in, then you push it back in (a little more
WW>than the newer sliding tray model.

But you can ALWAYS get your disc back even if the drive craps on you. <g>.

Ron


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From: MANNY SILVA                            Number: 7879
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/30/93 12:00a
Subj: CDROMS                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for some Adult CD-Roms at a REASONABLE price. Anyone out there!!??

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From: CRAIG CHLADNY                          Number: 7880
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 12/02/93 11:42p
Subj: Re: CDROM Pricing-Walnut Crk            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can you please send me a CD-ROM/CD catalog and/or price-list?

Craig Chladny
907 Devonshire Rd.
Washington, IL 61571-132607

 FidoNET: Craig Chladny 1:232/13.0  C-Link: Craig Chladny 911:6020/0.0
MajorNET: King@FLC               FutureNET: #14@#36
InterNET: Mr.King@Barts-Tale.ecore.fnet.org

Ask about Simple and BASIC Custom Programming!
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From: DICK WALSH                             Number: 7881
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/02/93  9:01a
Subj: RE: SHAREWARE STUDIO III                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris when I called you the other day you had a 800 number   didn't you
also I did expect a shipment from you that you said would go 2nd day
delivery of CD's  I did expect you to ship on Monday and it did not arrive
on Wednesday   I am not worried about it but you paid the post office for
something that they are not doing for you. Better check into it <Richard
Walsh>

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From: JEREMY ROLLINGS                        Number: 7882
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/02/93  2:55a
Subj: Free CD-ROM !!!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Good deal!!! There's a free CD in the December issue of Multimedia
World Magazine. The mag costs $3.95 and includes a disk which 
is supposed to have a full 600MB of software demos on it, 
plus a couple shareware programs. 

The mag itself is quite cool. Good reviews of CD and MPC titles. 
You can probably find it at news stand or supermarket. Enjoy!!!

Jeremy in Chicago. 

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From: GRAHAM MOSS                            Number: 7883
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 12/02/93  4:40p
Subj: Canadian Distribution                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hayden, Could you fax me a list of the CDROM software you have for sale with
pricing - FAX # 613-389-4349 (Kingston, Ont.)

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From: MARTIN YEE                             Number: 7884
  To: THOMAS MENG                              Date: 12/01/93  4:59p
Subj: Busty babes ii                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TM>   I have for sale the new Busty Babes 2 disk. I'll take the fisrt Hi Tom
   Interested in a trade for any of the following: The Animals! MPC CDROM
Macmillan Dictionary for Children MPC CDROM


Martin Yee

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From: ALAN LE                                Number: 7885
  To: MING WU                                  Date: 12/01/93  6:44p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > IF you or anybody out there wants a new, internal, hitachi Cd-ROM 
 > drive, I have one for $350. This includes the SCSI interface card 
 > for the drive. The drive is being sold for this price since it is 
 > actually being resold from my distributor (I am a reseller). If you 
 > want, I'm still willing to bargain. So if you want it, leave me a 
 > message. -Ming Wu

Could you give me the specs for the Cd-ROM? (seek time, kb transfer rate, etc.)
 Thanks.

Alan Le

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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 7886
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/01/93  8:35p
Subj: CDROM Disc Holiday Speci                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To: 1:282/31 
 
Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM's 
from:  ComputerHelp 
       PO Box 385041 
       Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
       Ph:  (612) 890-4750 
       Fax:  (612) 894-9411 
 
(as of 12/02/93) 
 
SIMTEL MSDOS...................$13.00 
CICA MS Windows................$13.00 
Hobbes OS/2....................$13.00 
Aminet Amiga...................$13.00 
Garbo MSDOS/Mac................$13.00 
Sprite OS......................$13.00 
QRZ! Ham Radio.................$13.00 
ADA Programming................$18.50 
GIGA Games.....................$18.50 
La Coleccion...................$18.50 
Nova for NeXTs.................$18.50 
Project Gutenberg..............$18.50 
Source Code....................$18.50 
X11/GNU........................$18.50 
Info-Mac.......................$25.50 
CUG Library....................$23.50 
Linux..........................$23.50 
Libris Britannia...............$34.00 
Space and Astronomy............$18.50 
 
***SPECIAL***SPECIAL***SPECIAL*** 
=>>> Order 3 at once and take an Extra $1 Off of Each <<<= 
 
(Limited Time Offer!!! Print and enclose this ad with 
  your order.  Good through 12/31/93!!!!) 
 
Shipping:  1-3 discs in one order = $4.50, 4-10 discs 
           in one order = $6.50. 
(MN residents add 6.5% sales tax).

 
All prices subject to change without notice. 
 
"Yes Mildred, we do take personal cheques!" 
 
All orders by pre-payment, (you want cheap prices....); 
send to address above.  Call with questions. 
(Sorry, we don't accept credit cards:  they add to the

price and we want to be able to offer you the CHEAPEST 
PRICES AVAILABLE.  "Thank You for Your Support!!! 
-  Richard Carter 
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From: ERIC HO                                Number: 7887
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 12/02/93  8:43p
Subj: Distributor in Europe                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Ok, our company is interested but, obviously, more details are
> required.  Could you please supply, at least, the following:-

> 1)  Would we get an "exclusive" distributorship in Finland if we made an
> agreement?  Finland is a very small, argricultural, country of 5 million sou

> 2)  What kind of minimum purchase would be required to maintain
> distributorship?

> 3)  Would you demand a minimum monthly turnover?

> 4)  What would the pricing structure be?

> 5)  Would the CDs be available, for "other" dealers via other routes at the
> same or cheaper prices?

> 6)  What kind of upgrade strategy do you have to keep the content of your CD
> up-to-date?


Please give me your company phone & fax nuumber, also address. I don't want to
reply message via echo mail. Call me at 408-748-9988 or fax at 408-748-9989.

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From: DOUG HUMMEL                            Number: 7888
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/02/93  6:07p
Subj: Cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I NEED A BROKEN CDR-3500 DRIVE SO I CAN FIX MY SOUND SECTION OF THE DRIVE. I
WOULD BE WILL TO TRADE DRIVE FOR ONE WITH THE SOUND WORKING PLUS A SMALL
DIFFERENCE IN CASH. PLEASE LET KNOW, I HAVE SEVERAL KIDS CHOPPING AT THE BIT TO
HEAR THE SOUND. I AM ALSO GOING TO USE IT FOR TEACHING MY YOUNGEST KID WHO ALSO
IS HANDCAPED. SEND REPLIES TO DOUG HUMMEL AT 6602 30TH TERRACE, GAINESVILLE,
FL. HOME PHONE IS 372-4610  HOPE TO HEAR FROM SOMEONE SOON
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From: MICHAEL COLLIER                        Number: 7889
  To: CLIFF FIVEASH                            Date: 12/02/93 11:41p
Subj: Asian Ladies Warning!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CF>RL>--- WM v3.10/91-0114
CF>RL> * Origin: Mr. Bills Place BBS! ** Tampa, FL ** (813) 920-2193  
CF>(1:3603/170)
CF> 
CF>KINDA' SPOILS AN OTHERWISE, PRETTY GOOD DISC, DOESN'T IT. THEY ARE
CF>SLIPPING THE C__KSUCKERS IN EVERYWHERE THESE DAYS--EVEN OUR "PRESIDENT
CF>APPOINTS THEM TO CABINET POSTS!!!! KINDA' MAKES YOU WONDER WHAT HIS
CF>"TRUE COLORS" REALLY ARE DOESN'T IT? LATER,
CF>Cliff



    Someone should make up a disc of Right Wing C__ksuckers and they could 
call it "FAR RIGHT FAGS" or "SMALL MINDS BIG D__KS!" 

    But you know, they'd probably have a problem with finding Right 
Wingers with big enough BALLS . . . Maybe they could could ship along a 
complementary magnification program with the disc.

    Just a suggestion . . 

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7890
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 12/01/93  1:19p
Subj: Adult Cds sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What happened to our trade?  Pc Pix1 for T&A to the maxx?

Please reply asap.

Thanks
Scott raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7891
  To: THOMAS MENG                              Date: 12/01/93  1:21p
Subj: Busty Babes II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will give you $25 for it or trade you for another cd like Storm
I?


Please reply asap.

Thanks
Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7892
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/01/93  1:23p
Subj: cd rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will offer you $35 a piece for those hitachi cdrom drives that
need repair plus pay shipping.

Please let me know.

Thanks
Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7893
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/01/93  1:24p
Subj: Cd Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can you give me some prices on those close out models?

CDrom drives....

thakns
Scott raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7894
  To: PAT DELIN                                Date: 12/01/93  1:25p
Subj: Cd Rom for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Will trade you a copy of WordPerfect 5.2 for Windows for that cdrom
drive.

Please reply.

Thanks
Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7895
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 12/01/93  1:27p
Subj: CD's 4-Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CAn you send me a list of all your shareware and adult titles.

Thanks
Netmail: 1:2612/104

Scott Raley
Box 76
ridge, Md 20680-0076
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7896
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/01/93  1:29p
Subj: CD-ROM Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in these for my bbs, but all I can offer right now
is a trade for WordPerfect 5.2 for Windows and pay for shipping.
Wanna trade?

Please reply.
Thanks
Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7897
  To: ERIC HO                                  Date: 12/01/93  1:33p
Subj: Distributor wanted                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in becoming a reseller of your cds.  Please send me
information netmail to: 1:2612/104

thanks
Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7898
  To: BILL JONES                               Date: 12/01/93  1:35p
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Are you interested in trading for a copy of WordPerfect 5.2 for
Windows?

Please reply.

Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7899
  To: BRYAN COTTER                             Date: 12/01/93  1:36p
Subj: JPEG CD's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have an adult cd, amatuer models that has 24 bit TIFF and GIF on
it.

Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7900
  To: PAT DELIN                                Date: 12/01/93  1:36p
Subj: Magnavox CDD-461                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How much for the cdrom?

Interested in trading?

Thanks
Scott raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7901
  To: ALAN ORNDORFF                            Date: 12/01/93  1:38p
Subj: Os/2 2.1                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

os/2 2.1 cdrom    $50

Scott Raley
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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 7902
  To: GENE MILLSAPS                            Date: 12/02/93 11:42p
Subj: Re: Encarta for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Gene Millsaps to Eddie Phillips <=-

 EP>I have Microsoft's Encarta encyclopedia CD for sale. . . .
 EP>
 EP>  . . . .  I am asking $110 delivered...
 EP>
 EP>... Voice: 919-870-6926 (eves/weekends)

 GM> Are you aware that Egghead sells the 1994 version for about $80, in
 GM> the store? Evidently MicroSoft has had major re-thinking on its
 GM> pricing.
 GM> Good luck.

Are you aware that the $80 price is only good until the end of the year ??
No, it's Microsoft's undercutting-the-competition to win lost customers.
They did it with Windoze against OS/2, now they're doing it with Encarta
against Grolier's and Comptons.  The difference here is I think Encarta is
pretty decent product.
 
... Windows: from the people that brought you Edlin.
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 7903
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/02/93  4:07p
Subj: Tree Dim. CD Storage?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        I have a CD storage unit from a company called Tree Dimensions.
        It is a 2-shelf unit for minimum-height storage of 2 rows of
        CDs. The company makes two 2-shelf units... the one I'm interested
        in is the shorter of the two. I'd like to purchase another of
        these to match the one we have. Anyone sell them? If so, please
        provide details here, or call 913-888-5201 ext.257 (M-F 8a-4p
        Central, or leave voice mail).

        For reference, the unit is made out of wood, with 3 "holding"
        rails for each "shelf", and a dividing block to separate the
        CDs on each level.

- Heather
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7904
  To: WILLIAM WRIGHT                           Date: 12/03/93  2:11a
Subj: Re: ????????                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Can anyone tell me about Night Owl Games like how many megs it
>>    has and stuff.

Night Owl Games is about 130 megs in size and contains some 1,000 games
in 19 diffrent directories.

Most of the files are dated 1993, but there are 1992 files on the cd as
well.

You'll find games from Apogee and Epic to D&D and Windows.

Interested, we have them in stock, so please feel free to give us a call
at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be glad to help.

We also have several other cd's that are much large in size and are bbs
ready as well !!

Boris Osadciw

... I married the Mail Lady!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7905
  To: STEWART GAY                              Date: 12/03/93  2:11a
Subj: Re: New cd                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>>            C R E A M     O F     T H E     C R O P    I I
BO>>
BO>>OVER 654 MEGS New Shareware   4987 Files Dated '93'  Dup Checked
BO>>Virus Checked                 Files.BBS Support      Multi Line
BO>>Discription Mouse Support Menu            14Megs Prog Code       Plus
BO>>MORE !!! Only 200 prog Older Than April '93' - 10% Dup to NO10, Pier3,
BO>>Software Gold
BO>>                               PRICE - $25.
BO>>
BO>>ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263   FAX
BO>>216-225-6759
BO>>Boris Osadciw

>>    When you say files.bbs support, does that mean they will work
>>    rbbs style Fms dir listing or will I have to go back and type
>>    all those files by hand in the FMS listing?
>>    Stewart..

No, the files.bbs structure is name - size - date and discription. There
are also several programs that will convert this structure to PCBoard,
ProBoard, Quick BBS and RA as well. I'am sure one of these structures
will make the installation of the cd a lot easier.

Interested, give us a call at the above number and we'll be glad to help you
out !

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: MARK CROSBIE                           Number: 7906
  To: ALAN ORNDORFF                            Date: 12/02/93  5:52p
Subj: OS/2 2.1                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -> I have an extra copy of OS/2 2.1 on c.d. rom collecting dust.
 -> got the os/2 for windows version and don't need both.  Make an

I take that this is a complete version and not just an upgrade from 2.0.
I will take it if it is a full version, and includes the registration
card.

Send it to
           Mark Crosbie
           BossMan's HideOut BBS
           P.O. Box 326
           London, Oh 43140

I will send the m.o. plus shiping when I receive the package.

Mark


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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7907
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 12/03/93  7:43a
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ok, my address is:
Scott Raley
box 76
ridge, MD 20680-0076
 
I will be looking for it!
 
Thanks

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7908
  To: JOHN PIERCE                              Date: 12/03/93  7:45a
Subj: Cd-Rom Bb For Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ok I will give you $27 which includes 2 day priority mail (2.90) not the $9
whatever it was.  IF this is exceptable please send me your address.
 
thanks
Scott Raley
Box 76
Ridge, MD 20680-0076

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7909
  To: JEFF HUBERT                              Date: 12/03/93  7:47a
Subj: games and cd-roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ok, thats great, $31 for shareware Extravaganza.  My address is:
Scott Raley
Box 76 curley Rd
ridge, MD 20680-0076
 
I will send you out a check tomorrow.
 
thanks
scott

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From: MIKE BILOW                             Number: 7910
  To: ROBERT MOORE                             Date: 12/03/93  6:07p
Subj: Novell Netware 3.xx & CDROMs            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Nov 24 05:03>, Robert Moore of 1:275/47 writes:

 RM> I have heard that Novell Netware 3.xx directly supports CDROM 
 RM> drives.  Does anyone know if that includes the old Hitachi 
 RM> CDR3500 drives?  These use an 8bit controller model number 
 RM> CD-IFI8-S.  If Novell Netware 3.xx does not directly support 
 RM> these Hitachi drives, is there a driver that can be linked into 
 RM> Netware that will allow the network to recognize these 
 RM> drives?

1.  You must use SCSI CD-ROM drives.

2.  You must use a supported SCSI controller; that is, there must be a Netware
v3.1x *.DSK file available either from Novell or the controller manufacturer. 

3.  You must load ASPI support; that is, the controller and driver must be ASPI
compatible.

4.  You must obtain a third-party driver for the CD-ROM drives, such as Corel
SCSI for Netware.

-- Mike

P.S.  Please don't follow up on this message in the CDROM_SALE echo; it is
somewhat off-topic to begin with.  I would suggest the NOVELL echo.

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 7911
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93  9:30a
Subj: *Q&A CD-ROM & other CD's                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROMS for Sale

Q&A 4.0 from Symantec ..........................  $39
Tax-Prep 1993 ..................................  $15
CD-ROM Premier .................................  $14
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $19
Toolworks US Atlas and Automap .................  $24
Toolworks World Atlas ..........................  $24
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $69
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $10
PC Sig Library 9th edition .....................  $12
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $19

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Registered Symantec Q&A Consultant


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 7912
  To: MIKE BARROW                              Date: 12/03/93  9:47a
Subj: Microsoft encarta                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>Have '93 Version of Microsoft Encarta Encyclopedia, boxed with all docs.
MB>$60.00 obo:

   I can use another copy for my daughter's machine.
   $40 including shipping is offered.
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Registered Symantec Q&A Consultant


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 7913
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/02/93  2:35p
Subj: CD-ROM drive prices!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


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From: RALPH OFFREDO                          Number: 7914
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 12/02/93 12:13p
Subj: Re: ADULT CDS SALE                      Refer: NONE
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Ken, am intrested in your cd sales, anymore titles? give me a call at
215-295-1566.....Hawq
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From: PAUL DEEMER                            Number: 7915
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93  7:32p
Subj: CDs for Sale                            Refer: NONE
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I found out that I was able to return all the multimedia stuff I ordered
from computability in exchange for what I wanted. SO the multimedia outfit
is off the market. I have the following tittles for sale and they are 
less than 2 weeks old and barely used.
 
 National Parks from Multicom, (Not National Parks Guide) but the GOOD ONE
 with 100s of SVGA photos and 40 or so Full motion video clips of over 250
 of Americas Finest parks. $50.00 includes Shipping.
 
 Rebel Assault from Lucas Arts $40.00 Includes Shipping

 If interested contact me at 1-803-543-3844, I will not be on the BBS for
awhile so if you want to get in touch with me pronto. CALL.

  

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7916
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 12/03/93  1:29a
Subj: NEW WINDOWS & GAMES CD'S                Refer: NONE
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RL>MIke, this is my THIRD request to you for more info on this disc! One was on
RL>compuserve. Do you want to sell me one or not? How many megs on the disk?
RL>Are they really all 1993 programs?

Ron,

Sorry, have been in and out of town lately and have missed a lot of my mail.
This is a "best of" CD with 100% 1993 files, and *around* 250mb total.  Fully
BBS-ready.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7917
  To: PAUL LAUGHLIN                            Date: 12/03/93  1:29a
Subj: BUY PIER3 GET A CD FREE!                Refer: NONE
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PL>Hey Mike....  What's up?   I am interested in you're Pier 3/ Free CD...  If
y
PL>can ship this COD I will want to oredr it.  If not please respond and I'll
se
PL>what I can do. Please respond at 1:116/110.   Thank You.   Paul Laughlin

Paul,

Give me a call and I'm sure we can get you fixed up!

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7918
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93  1:29a
Subj: DECEMBER CD PRICE$ 1/3                  Refer: NONE
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 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Majestic Places...............38.50
 20th Century Sports (New!)....29.00    Mantis........................24.00
 20th Century Video Almanac....29.00    Mario is Missing/World Atlas..25.00
 5-Star Premium Windows........27.00    Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50
 7th Guest.....................39.00    Mayo Clinic MPC...............26.00
 9-Digit Zip Code Guide (New!).32.00    Mega Clipart..................27.00
 9000 Sounds (New!)............25.00    Microsoft Bookshelf 1992 MPC..35.00
 A.S.P. Shareware (New!).......22.00    Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..49.00
 Action Traveler (New!)........29.00    Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00
 Adventures in Heaven (New!)...19.00    Microsoft Golf MPC............48.50
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...25.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........49.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........35.00    Middle East Diary.............35.00
 American Business Phonebk 91..17.00    MIDI Music Shop...............26.50
 American Business Phonebk 93..25.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50
 Aminet Amiga..................15.00    Monarch Notes.................48.00
 Anecdotes 1...................14.50    Monster Media 93 vol 2 (New!).29.00
 Anecdotes 2...................14.50    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Anecdotes 3...................14.50    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......19.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....18.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....22.00    Multimedia Magic Collection...28.00
 Arizona Images (New!).........25.00    National Geographic Mammals...24.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    National Parks................24.50
 Audubon's Birds...............23.00    Newsweek Interactive (New!)...26.50
 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Battle Chess..................25.00    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 8.0.................24.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........25.00    Night Owl 9.0.................25.00
 Beyond the Wall of Stars......24.50    Night Owl 10.0................29.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    Night Owl Games (New!)........29.00
 Britannica Family Choice......28.50    Night Owl Graphics (New!).....29.00
 Britannica Select Software....28.50    North American Fax Book.......32.50
 Business Assistant............13.00    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Business Master...............20.00    OS/2Box.......................25.00
 C User's Group Library........29.00    Our Solar System..............13.00
 Canadian Shareware............19.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....27.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    PC-SIG 12.....................19.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-SIG 13 (Pre-orders)........33.00
 CD Powerbox ($6 w/ any order).15.00    PC-SIG Windows (New!).........19.00
 CD Winbox 1.01................24.00    PC Gameroom...................24.00
 CD-ROM of CD-ROMs ($9 w/ ord).29.00    PC Karaoke w/ Microphone......68.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Pentomino.....................23.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Peter and the Wolf............25.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phoenix 4.0...................19.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phonedisc USA.................69.00
 Clipart Galore................22.50    Pier 2........................24.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 3 (In Stock!)............29.00
 Clipart Heaven................25.00    Pier 2/3 Pak..................49.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00    Pinacotheca Multimedia........24.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    Pixel Garden..................34.00
 Companion for Windows (New!)..23.50    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Companion for WordPerfect.....23.50    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0.............13.00
 Composer Quest................33.00    Precision Mapping.............68.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency....89.00    Prescription Drugs............27.00

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7919
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93  1:29a
Subj: DECEMBER CD PRICE$ 2/3                  Refer: NONE
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 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....64.00    Profiles of Colleges..........29.50
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....64.00    Project Gutenberg (New!)......22.00
 Computer Reference Library....13.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak.......... 96.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....34.50    ProPhone 1993 Business........29.00
 Cookbook Heaven...............23.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 CorelDraw 3.0.................79.00    Publish-It 2.0................25.00
 Cybergenic Ranger.............19.50    Publisher's Dream Disc........35.00
 Dagger of Amon Ra.............32.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Publisher's Powerhouse (New!).29.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Q&A 4.0.......................39.00
 Dare, Bluff, or Die (New!)....29.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Day of the Tentacle...........44.50    Reader's Library..............20.50
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Reel Clips....................25.00
 Desert Storm..................33.50    Reference Library ............24.50
 Desktop Bookshop..............22.50    Return to Zork (New!).........50.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...37.00
 Dictionary of Living World....32.50    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............33.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
 Dinosaurs!....................33.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
 Dr. Games.....................20.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Dr. Music.....................20.00    Shareware 1993 vol 2 (New!)...20.00
 Dr. Shareware.................20.00    Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......49.00
 Dr. Windows...................20.00    Shareware Online 1............25.00
 DTPro.........................26.50    Shareware Online 2............29.00
 Dune (New!)...................39.00    Shareware Overload............13.00
 Ecoquest......................27.50    Shareware Studio 1............19.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Studio 2............23.00
 Electronic Cookbook...........29.00    Shareware Studio 3............25.00
 Electronic Home Library.......29.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Electronic Library of Art.....39.50    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.00
 Empire Clipart................19.50    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...49.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...49.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.00    Sights & Sounds...............22.50
 European Monarchs.............35.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Family Doctor.................26.00    Sleeping Beauty (New!)........25.00
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......26.50    So Much Screenware............27.50
 Firearms Reference (New!).....24.00    So Much Shareware 2...........23.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....25.00
 Font Master 2.................26.00    So Much Space (New!)..........24.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    Software Vault 1..............19.00
 Fractunes (New!)..............30.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....19.00
 Fresh Arte....................34.00    Software Vault Gold (New!)....25.00
 Funny (New!)..................33.00    Solar Heaven (New!)...........23.00
 Game Arena....................13.00    Sound Effects Library.........19.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Game Pack 2...................25.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Soundware Collection..........24.00
 Games Collection (New!).......26.00    SoundWAV......................25.00
 Gameware Collection...........24.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.00    Space & Astronomy (New!)......27.00
 Gardening (New!)..............13.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 GIF Galaxy (New!).............24.00    Space Quest IV................19.00
 GIF's Galore..................16.50    Space Shuttle (New!)..........25.00
 Giga Games....................23.00    Space Time and Art (New!).....34.50
 Global Explorer...............85.00    Sporting News.................26.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
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    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7920
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93  1:29a
Subj: DECEMBER CD PRICE$ 3/3                  Refer: NONE
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 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Stellar 7.....................19.50
 Grammy Awards.................36.00    Straight from Heaven (New!)...19.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Street Atlas USA v2...........94.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    STW Illustrated Encyclopedia..34.00
 Great Wonders of the World....42.00    STW Multimedia Encyclopedia...44.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency 6.0 (New!).45.00    STW MPC Encyclopedia..........44.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...23.00    Super Games For Windows.......10.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 93...29.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........35.50
 Hacker Chronicles.............25.00    Tech Arsenal (New!)...........21.50
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Technotools...................13.00
 Hamware 1993..................23.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..19.00
 Health & Medical Directory....27.50    Terrorist Group Profiles......35.00
 Hobbes OS/2 10/93.............16.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Hollywood the Bizarre (New!)..43.50    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Timetable of Business/Politic.26.00
 Home Designer (New!)..........29.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Home/Business Legal Guide.....13.00    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Horror & Sci-Fi Films (New!)..43.50    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.00
 House of Games................18.50    Total Baseball 1992...........24.00
 Images of NASA (New!).........25.00    Total Baseball 1993 (New!)....28.00
 Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00    Total Heart by Mayo Clinic....49.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Trump Castle..................28.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    U.S./World Atlas MPC..........25.00
 Interactive Story Time 3......29.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................23.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Int'l Graphics Library........27.50    U.S. History..................29.00
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....29.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........39.00    U.S. Wars: Civil War..........34.00
 Jets & Props..................28.50    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 Jewel Cases....................1.00    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 Jokes & Pranks................13.00    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............34.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Wars: WWII...............34.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............39.00    USA Today: The 90's (New!)....36.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    VGA Spectrum 1................13.00
 King's Quest V................20.00    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 King's Quest VI (Retail Box)..39.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    Wildcat Gold..................20.50
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........19.00    Win Platinum..................24.00
 La Colleccion (Spanish S/W)...22.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Lan Master....................25.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 Languages of the World........37.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Learning Adventure............13.00    Windows Collection (New!).....26.00
 Learning Heaven (New!)........19.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Library of the Future #1......39.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Libris Britannia..............34.00    World Atlas MPC...............23.00
 Linux (New!)..................29.00    World Fact Book M/M...........23.00
 Loom..........................19.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...35.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mac Shareware.................19.00    World Traveler................13.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........29.00    World View....................24.00
 Macromind Action..............35.00    World Vision 3-Pak............39.00
 Mad Dog McCree (New!).........39.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    X11R5/GNU.....................24.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7921
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93  1:29a
Subj: ADULT "R" CD TITLES 4SALE               Refer: NONE
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
 Amateur Models (New!).........34.00    High Volume Nudes (New!)......36.50
 American Girls (New!).........34.00    L.A. Strippers (Movie)........49.00
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......29.00    Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......48.00    Photo Gallery (New!)..........34.00
 Digital Dreams................28.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......33.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Girls of Mardi Gras (New!)....43.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
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From: KIRK REEVES                            Number: 7922
  To: DAN ROBINSON                             Date: 12/03/93  5:35p
Subj: CD-Rom Wanted!!!! Cheap!!!!!!           Refer: NONE
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 DR> * On 11-29-93 at 23:54 Kirk Reeves uttered these 
 DR> remarkable words to Lee Dette
KR> The prices for CD-Roms are dropping.  A couple of days ago I
KR> got a brand new panasonic  double-spin with kodak-photo
KR> capability for $190.00  (Plus the dealer threw in a cd-rom
KR> disk)

 DR> Would you mind sharing with us where you found this great deal????

This was at a trade show in Portland where you are bound to get good prices if
you haggle.  The man I brought the drive from also does business on this echo
selling cd-disks.  I don't know If I should mentioned the man's name since now
everytime  he sees me at the trade show he shudders.   Well instead of
mentioning the guy's name since I want some more great bargains and don't want
him to die from a heart attack, I won't tell you his name but give you a clue. 
He is located in the state of Washington.  (Maybe that is not much help since
there are at least three vendor
on this echo from Washington.)  If he wants others to know you can almost rob
him cheap (At least he says I rob him) just by haggling like in a bazaar,
he can tell you.

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 7923
  To: THOMAS MENG                              Date: 12/03/93  7:50a
Subj: Busty Babes II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Thomas!

Thursday December 02 1993, Thomas Meng writes to Pat Rickerson:

 PR>> Will offer $22 shipped
 PR>> Pat

 TM>   I have a offer of $25.00 in which I accepted. Lets see what happens and
 TM> I'll get back to you... Tom * SPITFIRE v3.4 -+- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3

OK will do, thanks
Pat

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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 7924
  To: JEREMY ROLLINGS                          Date: 12/03/93  4:18p
Subj: Free CD-ROM !!!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (02 Dec 93) Jeremy Rollings wrote to All...

 JR> Good deal!!! There's a free CD in the December issue of Multimedia
 JR> World Magazine. The mag costs $3.95 and includes a disk which 
 JR> is supposed to have a full 600MB of software demos on it, 
 JR> plus a couple shareware programs. 

  The programs are not shareware.   Includes 10-15 of the VERY latest
  commercial programs (full blown editions).  Problems, no dox or save
  features ALSO, limited number of trial runs.  Just took a look at it
  and it includes AMI Pro 3.1, WP 5.2 for Windows, Energizer Rabbit and
  others.  For $3.95 its a worthwhile investment, you get the complete
  look and feel of the programs and it also includes online ordering.
  Plan on spending several days drooling and slobbering with this CD.
  Oh yea as Jeremy said the Magazine is pretty good too and you can
  order it for $9.95 for a 12 issue subscription.  Overall I think its
  a real good deal.  Waldon's doesn't carry (stupid on their part) it
  but B. Dalton's has it.  Better get it pronto as I would suspect once
  the word gets out it will be going pretty quickly.

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From: ROB O'DELL                             Number: 7925
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/02/93  7:39p
Subj: BUY PIER3 GET A CD FREE!                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->    LIMITED TIME OFFER:  Buy Pier 3, and get CD Powerbox Shareware FRE

If you'll take a company check COD, go ahead and send this to:

CAP, Inc.
1996 Nadeau Road
Monroe, Mi  48161

If not, let me know and I'll prepay....


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From: ROB O'DELL                             Number: 7926
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/02/93  7:48p
Subj: Trade?                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a few discs I'd like to trade for a couple of shareware disks.

I have:
Hobbes OS/2 1992
Night Owl 6 1992
Microsoft Small Business Consultant/Microsoft Stat Pack (1 disc)
Compton's MultiMedia Encyclopedia 1991 Special Edition

I'd like to get:
Pier 2 and 3.  Or 2 comparable discs for a BBS.

If the trade isn't enough, let me know the difference in $$.

Thanks
Rob


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From: GARY GILMORE                           Number: 7927
  To: CLIFF FIVEASH                            Date: 12/03/93  1:30a
Subj: Peir 3                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CF> p.s. I sent this private because I have customers who are staunch
 CF>      advocates of Pier 3. :-) This is a private,  personal
 CF>      recommendation.

Surprise!  There IS no such thing as "Private" in an echomail area.

If you want private, use netmail, or better yet, a phone.

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From: LORI SMITH                             Number: 7928
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/02/93 12:55p
Subj: Cc2 -File List?                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello everyone...

I am interested in obtaining the allfiles list for the Cream Of The
Crop 2 CD.  I would like to take a look at what files are on it,
before I make a decision to purchase it.  Does anyone know where
I might be able to FREQ this from?

Thanks
Lori Smith
@1:231/610

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From: JEFF JOHNSEN                           Number: 7929
  To: PAT DELIN                                Date: 12/03/93 12:20p
Subj: MAGNAVOX CDD-461                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

sure, How much are you asking? post reply here or call Jeff @ 701-237-4830


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From: NINO FAGAN                             Number: 7930
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 12/01/93  4:11p
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices11/23/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Richard Carter wrote  
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
:>Nino, we would like to have you as a customer, and with our LOW
:>PRICES, we hope we can earn your business.
:>Thanks for the inquiry,
:>Richard Carter
:>ComputerHelp
:>(612) 890-4750
:>Fax: (612) 894-9411 
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

Thanks for the reply.  You can expect a check in the mail shortly
for the following:

ADA Programming.......$18.50
Linux.................$23.50

Regards, 
Nino
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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 7931
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/01/93  2:27a
Subj: CD BB for trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have BB 3 vol.1 I would like to trade for another adult CD, preferably T & A
2 the Maxx, or Southern Beauties.  Willing ot consider all trades.
Greg

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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 7932
  To: CLIFF FIVEASH                            Date: 12/01/93  4:01p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

A life form named CLIFF beamed aboard the Enterprise and said:

RL>Brand new Mitsumi CD ROM drive, in the box with all docs and accessor
RL>This is the single speed, 350ms model. Got it as a gift but already h
RL>one.
RL>        $150 plus 1/2 shipping.

CF>RON, Is this Mitsumi the caddy or caddyless model ? Internal or
CF>external? Thanks,
CF>Cliff

Sorry, sold.

Ron in Tampa
73163.124@compuserve.com
Prodigy: GHBF12B


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From: DANIEL PARDUE                          Number: 7933
  To: MIKE FITZSIMONDS                         Date: 12/01/93 11:04p
Subj: Sb and drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I suggest you buy the Creative Omni Drive. It is a Matsushita(sp?)/Panasonic
CR-563 Double spin drive. It is a caddy-less model (tray type). It works well
with the SBPro interface and comes with the drivers for it. Cables are
included. It is a very nice drive.

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From: JONATHAN MCGIRR                        Number: 7934
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 12/01/93  7:24a
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> WHOA!!! I didn't get any confirmation from you right away and I sold
-> drive locally. If you already sent the m.o., I will send one right ba
-> you, no need to worry.
->
-> Sorry bout dat Jon.
->

Heh. And here I was feeling bad that I was running behind....<grin> No
prob. Glad you got a deal on it. Thanks anyway!


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From: JONATHAN MCGIRR                        Number: 7935
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/01/93  7:30a
Subj: Wanted...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  CR> Is there anyone trying to sell a CD-ROM Drive for under $100.00
->  CR> know it is asking for a lot...because they are expensive...but I
->  CR> help my company out a lot...THANX!!


Page me at 214-835-7042....I am interested in one.


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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 7936
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/01/93 11:15p
Subj: Night Owl-10, BBS-ready ?               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi,
    This is from DIR60 on Night-Owl10:-

 > TAXSOR_F.ZIP   187128  08-20-93  TAX-SORT v3.0
 >                                | Organize income and expenses rapidly!
 >                                | WARNING!!! This is the registered
 >                                | version and it is a violation of
 >                                | copyright law and license agreement
 >                                | for this version to be freely
 >                                | distributed by BBS or any other
 >                                | method!

          It seems that before this CD can be put on-line, you must remove this
as well as the virus infected files :-(  The description seems to state that
the file, by simply being on the CD, is a violation of copyright.


                                                   Cheers,

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From: MICHAEL SPEARS                         Number: 7937
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 11/30/93  1:40p
Subj: sound effects library                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you have more then one of these?


Michael Spears


>I have sound effects library on cd.  This is selling for $19 or more.
>My price is $10 + $3 P&H.  If interested, reply or call.


>Ed Duchek
>(210)650-8069

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From: DAVID GALLIHER                         Number: 7938
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/30/93  7:35p
Subj: CD-ROM Catalogs Wanted                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone distributing CD ROM catalogs, please put me on your list.
Thanks.

David Galliher
812 Ridgewood Cove W
Niceville, Fl 32578


... Sorry, the Dog ate my Blue Wave packet.
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From: ANDY BRICK                             Number: 7939
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/01/93 11:53p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for a used copy of the 7th Guest CD w/docs. Hopefully somebody has
one cheaper than $30 as that is my limit. Happy Holidays

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From: CARL MONTANTE                          Number: 7940
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 12/01/93  8:43a
Subj: CD-Rom Disk 4Sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
$12.00                                                  $12.00 
          Instant BBS = Night Owl v6 = Instant BBS
ÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ
 
       Instant BBS (Night Owl v6) contains nearly 8,000 
       files totaling 650 Meg. in ZIP format. They include 
       the very best Shareware and Public Domain files in 
       51 different file areas, such as Games, Sound, CAD 
       and Windows
 
       The Disk is BBS ready and also comes with a State of 
       The Art retreival engine for those who wish to access 
       the files from non-BBS mode.
 
       I have upgraded my CD-Rom Disk and this is just laying 
       around collecting dust.

 
                 PRICE $12.00 + Shipping
 
         Reply Here or Call My BBS (503)635-3712
 
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From: PAUL T.NELSON                          Number: 7941
  To: RUSTY ATKINS                             Date: 12/01/93  9:14p
Subj: OS/2 2.1 CD-ROM For Sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I have OS/2 2.1 on CD-ROM for sale. This is the upgrade version. It
>    Price $75.00
>
>    Rick, This package is going for $70 in the stores here. If you'll take
$50,
Rusty, take a look at this before you spend too much.

OS/2 for Windows will be available in more than 13 languages, and
will be generally available on Nov. 10, 1993.  A 90-day promotional
offering of $39 USD for CD-ROM and $49 USD for diskettes is available
by calling 1-800-3IBM-OS2.  Additional licenses can be purchased for
$29 USD. The product will also be available from IBM PC Dealers,
IBM Software Dealers, IBM Remarketers, IBM Resellers and IBM Direct.

Paul






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From: CASEY ROMANSKI                         Number: 7942
  To: RICK BAUER                               Date: 12/01/93  9:50p
Subj: Adult cd's to Trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

--> Casey Romanski Quotes a message written by Rick Bauer
--> to All on 12-01-93 02:23 saying:
RB> I have the following cd's i would like to trade for
RB> other cd's 
RB> 
RB> 1. FAO #3 adult cd jam packed disk many topics
RB> 2. FAO Gold 1 the best of the FAO adult series on one disk.
RB> 
RB> If you have adult cd's you would like to trade let me know.
RB> 


How about Hot Pix #4 for FAO Gold? Reply here or at my BBS in the tagline. 

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 7943
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/01/93  4:46a
Subj: Warning!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Moderator, this may be off topic but I will keep it short.

Do not deal with the following person for trade or sale:

Blaine Richard
1066 Timberline Rd
Apopka, FL 32703

Why?  He has my disc I sent a month ago and I have nothing in return.
Two phone calls produced only promises from him.  If anyone know this
ass tell him to call me, he has my voice #.  Now I am someone shy of
trading or buying from other than a commercial place.  Thanks for
listening.  Randy


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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 7944
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/01/93  4:35p
Subj: Multimedia Audio Collection             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the Multimedia Audio Collection for sale.  One CD comes with the
following programs on it(usually on individual cd's):

Multimedia Sound studio
Sound Effects Library
World of Music Sampler
Music Mentor
Recording Session
Band in a Box
NotePlay

All on the one CD!  My price on this is $25 + $3 for P&H(thats 2-day air).
Pre-payments prefered, but if you HAVE to go COD, you cover the above price
plus the COD fee.

Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 7945
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/01/93  4:35p
Subj: Sound Effects Library!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have sound effects library on cd.  This is selling for $19 or more.  My price
is $10 + $3 P&H.  If interested, reply or call.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7946
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/01/93  9:08a
Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Do you have the Chestnut cd, gifs galore for $10?  if so please
>>    send me an address of where to send the money.

>>    thanks
>>    Scott Raley


Yes we do !

Please call us at 800-243-0517 anytime and we'll give you the information
you need.

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7947
  To: MICHAEL COLLIER                          Date: 12/01/93  9:08a
Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>>**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S **************
BO>>Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00  Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SC
BO>>NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare   - $379.00  NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SC
BO>>Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $249.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SC
BO>>Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $739.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1169.  -SC
BO>>Texel Int 245ms w/ctl   - $369.00  Texel Ext 245ms Bare  - $469.00 -SC
BO>>Texel Int 3021 Bare  Dr - $189.00  Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SC
BO>>Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $389.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SC



>>      Hi Boris, can you get the NEC 38 portable 2x speed drive
>>      and, if so, at what price? Don't need an interface. . .

>>     thanx

Yes we do Michael and it's priced at $249.00, plus we'll throw in a
copy of Groilers Encyclopedia for only $25. more !!

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be glad to
help you out.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7948
  To: JOHN PEARCE                              Date: 12/02/93  3:26a
Subj: Re: F'Reqing your catalog               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Hi Boris.

>>    I'm doing my Christmas shopping <G> and wanted to get a copy
>>    of your catalog.  I tried f'reqing it on Sunday (11/28) but
>>    something was wrong.  My log shows "remote system did not
>>    respond" which means there was a CONNECT but the systems
>>    failed to handshake.  My system aborted the file request after
>>    five failed tries.

>>    Tonight, I tried again to f'req your catalog but no luck.  The
>>    response from your system is shown below.

>>    I'd still like to get your catalog but I'm not going to spend
>>    any more of my dimes to get it. <G>  How about if you send it
>>    to me?  Please send it to my point address 1:128/13.1 (the
>>    bossnode will forward the file just fine).

That's strange!! We have been receiving file requests from all over the
world and so far it looks like everyone has pick the above up as well as
the new update file.

I'll check into it and see if there's anything we can do with it. I do
know our system will not allow file requests from unlisted nodes, could
that be the problem ??

In the meantime, I'll see if we can shoot you a copy !!

Thanks for your interest...........

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7949
  To: BRUCE NUNNALLY                           Date: 12/02/93  3:26a
Subj: Re: Learning to speak German by Hyperglot  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    I am looking for a US dealer for the Hyperglot
>>    CDROM Learning to Speak German.

>>    Pls reply with price and order info, preferably
>>    telephone order line.

>>    Thanks,

We have it Bruce ! It's a six disk set with manual !!  This is one of the
best language programs on cd.

Interested, please feel free to give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime
and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Merry Xmas, Happy Hanukak, Feliz Navidad, etc, etc, etc
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 7950
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/02/93  3:27a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       A L L  N E W  C D  "S O  M U C H  M O D E M  M A D N E S S"

   7,200 Files             Over 600+ Megs                BBS Ready
   Rip Graphics - BBS Doors - BBS Programs - Modem Utils - Ham Radio
 Desqview - Ansi Graphics - Programming - OS/2 Communcation - Comm Prgs
 Networking Utils - Netmail Progs - Win Communcation - Transfer Protocol
 and a whole lot more......
                              Price - $25.00

 ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: DOUG THRUSH @ 924/1                    Number: 7951
  To: DENNIS THRUSH                            Date: 12/01/93  7:38p
Subj: Cd Drive                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DT>When did you get a CD drive?  Oh, Thanks for the modem.  See you in
DT>the general area.


Glad to see you got that modem up and running.  I got a CDROM
back about five months ago.  The PX had a multi-media sale and I
got just CDROM player.  Now I know that I should have just spent
the extra money and got the big package that included the  sound
card.  I found out that Chessmaster 3000 a game on of the package
disks' won't play without having a sound card installed.  I'm not
sure why I can't play a game of chess without hearing it in
stereo.  I look for you in the GENERAL of COMMON conference.  Will you 
be staying with FidoNet or will you also be over in Rime.

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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 7952
  To: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                         Date: 12/01/93  9:02p
Subj: Re: CD's for Sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Jeff Collingwood to Eddie Phillips <=-

 JC> Hello Eddie!

 JC> In a message to Jeff Collingwood <11/29/93> Eddie Phillips wrote:

 EP>  -=> Quoting Jeff Collingwood to All <=-

 EP>  JC> I have the follow CD's for sale for $10 ea plus shipping (about
 EP>  JC> $3 each):

 EP>  JC> Mega CD-ROM2
 EP>  JC> Colossal Cookbook

 EP> Could you give me some info on these ??  I assume the Mega CD-ROM2 is a C
 EP> of shareware....if so, how old is it ??  And, is the Colossal Cookbook a
 EP> database of recipes ??

 JC> There is no date on the Mega CD-ROM disc but I have had it for
 JC> about a year and it was current then.  The Colossal Cookbook is a
 JC> collection of recipies and programs, not a database.
 JC> ...Jeff...

Is there a front-end search engine on the Colossal Cookbook that at least
categorizes and maybe searches through the collection ??
 
... Voice: 919-870-6926 (eves/weekends)
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From: TIM MORGAN                             Number: 7953
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 12/02/93 12:15a
Subj: CD's 4-Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->                       S A Y L O R   E N T E R P R I S E S
->                           ( 3 1 7 )   8 8 1 - 9 3 9 1
->                 SHIPPING AND HANDLING CHARGE IS $4.00 PER ORDER
->
-> 9000 SOUNDS
->      500 Megabytes of sound files for Sound Blaster, Midi, WAV, Adlib
->      Speaker, and etc.  Many utilities and players.
->
-> AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONE DIRECTORY with ZIP+ (set)  - - - $24.00
->      The American Business Phone Book and the new 9 digit Zip Code Di
->      Add Zip +4 to all your mailing.
->
-> AMERICAN VISTA ATLAS (MPC for Windows only) - - - $25.00
->      Maps, photos, and facts for each of the states.  All cross refer
->      the 1990 census.
->
-> ARTHUR'S TEACHER TROUBLE (MPC for Windows only) - - - $23.00
->      This an MPC educational disc with music and animation. Very well
->
-> BIBLES AND RELIGION - - - $14.00
->      Includes all the popular version of both the OLD and NEW testame
->      Book of Mormans, Lexicons and Concordances.  Has study guides an
->
-> CLIP ART GOLIATH - - - $14.00
->      Over 11,000 image files in PCX and TIF formats.  Also includes s
->      color TIF/PCX, MAC, and GIF formats. Many subjects.
->
-> COLORMAGIC PC/MAC - - - $22.00
->      Over 600 Megs of 3D COLOR clip art.  Royalty free. Windows and M
->      librarian.
->
-> DICTIONARIES AND LANGUAGES - - - $14.00
->      A giant compilation of dictionaries, thesauruses, word processor
->      checkers, glossaries, cross references and much more.
->
-> DINOSAUR ADVENTURES - - - $20.00
->      Get you dinosaur adventure started today with this fun CD.  Over
->      Dinosaurs, facts, figures, stats, video and audio.
->
-> DR. GAMES  - - - $15.00
->      Adventure, arcade, card, sports, strategy, puzzles and more.  BB
->
-> DR. MUSIC  - - - $15.00
->      Music editors, MOD, MIDI, Sound Cards, ROL, VOC, WAV and more.
->
-> DR. WINDOWS  - - - $15.00
->      3,440 files of everything you need in windows format.  BBS ready
->
-> ENCYCLOPEDIA OF CLIP ART - - - $19.00
->      11,000 files.  51 directories.  500 Megs of BBS ready software.
->      clips.  65 adult clips.  Has keyword search.
->
-> ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUND - - - $14.00
->      Sound effects, voices, music clips, full length scores, digitall
->
-> GAMES 1993 - - - $22.00
->      6,000 plus game files.  Over 500 Megs.  Files as recent as April
->      Includes sports, arcade, casino, solutions, and more.
->
-> GARDENING  - - - $14.00
->      Help for the home gardener.  Photos, planning, care, landscaping
->      other helpfull information.  Also has clipart section.
->
-> HACKER CHRONICLES  - - - $18.00
->      Tour of the computer Underground.  Disc was 12 years in the maki
->
-> HOUSE OF GAMES - - - $15.00
->      Hundreds of exciting action, adventure and suspense games.  90%
->      from CD.
->
-> LAN MASTER  - - - $20.00
->      Over 1,000 progarams and references for network users. Utilities
->      patches,
->      multiplayer games, communications, and etc.
->
-> MONSTER MEDIA '93 - - - $22.00
->      1993 update for Jan, Feb, Mar, and April 1993.  Disc is publishe
->      times a year with over 400 megs of new files.  1993 files. No du
->
-> MULTIMEDIA ANIMALS ENCYCLOPEDIA (MPC for Windows only) - - - $25.00
->      Comprehensive reference to over 2,000 birds, fish, mammals, and
->      on one easy to use CD.
->
-> NIGHT OWL 10 - - - $28.00
->      This disk is loaded with Shareware programs.  The Night Owl seri
->
-> NIGHT OWL GAMES  - - - $18.00
->      Most current and popular games from some of the leading games wr
->      Has full search and retrieve function. Two thirds of the games a
->      releases.
->
-> NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS  - - - $23.00
->      600 Megabytes of GIF files.  4,600 files are on this disc.  Has
->      search and retrieve functions.  BBS ready.
->
-> PHOTO CD (Kodak) - - - $16.00
->      Access software to Photo CD.  Kodak for DOS.
->
-> PIER 3  - - - $25.00
->      640 Megabytes of new shareware in the Pier standard of excellenc
->      release has a newly designed, high performance interface.  BBS r
->
-> PRECISION MAPPING - - - $69.00
->      Street mapping program that also allows you to cut & paste, inte
->      print, search, and calculate mileage. Includes phone book.
->
-> PROPHONE (3 Disc Set) - - - $25.00
->      1992 closeout of the residential and business editions.
->
-> PROPHONE BUSINESS DIRECTORY 1993 - - - $26.00
->      The business disk of the Profone set.  Lookup by S.I.C. code, na
->      number, etc.  Prints mailing labels.
->
-> PUBLISHERS PARADISE (with manual) - - - $19.00
->      Over 1,000 clip art images of PROFESSIONAL QUALITY for Windows,
->      Perfect, etc.  Includes 150 fonts.
->
-> SHAREWARE 93 (volume 2) - - - $20.00
->      Excellent shareware disc of over 5,000 files.  It has 620 Megs o
->      1993 files.  BBS ready.
->
-> SHAREWARE EXPLORER (4 disc set)  - - - $35.00
->      26,000 files are on this set.  It is a complete colection with 3
->      of DOS files and 7,000 windows files.  BBS ready.
->
->
->   If there is something that you don't see here call, Or leave me a N
->
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From: DAN ROBINSON                           Number: 7954
  To: KIRK REEVES                              Date: 12/01/93  4:48p
Subj: CD-Rom Wanted!!!! Cheap!!!!!!           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* On 11-29-93 at 23:54 Kirk Reeves uttered these remarkable words to Lee Dette
KR> The prices for CD-Roms are dropping.  A couple of days ago I
KR> got a brand new panasonic  double-spin with kodak-photo
KR> capability for $190.00  (Plus the dealer threw in a cd-rom
KR> disk)
KR> Of course I was hunting for a little while for this until I
KR> found this.
KR> Currently, the model I got the Panasonic 562-b sells between
KR> $225 and $275

Would you mind sharing with us where you found this great deal????

Dan

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From: DAVE BAKKER                            Number: 7955
  To: CHRIS CONKLIN                            Date: 11/30/93  7:55a
Subj: Looking for                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

( 11-14-93 ) Chris Conklin wrote to Dave Bakker about Looking for

CC-Hi Dave
CC-
CC-   How about the "Plant Doctor" .   I can ship it to you for $29.00.

Is this geared for the average home owner, or would it have more useful
information on it?
I have a nursery and I like to be able to have a good reference disk on
plants and all the diffent species and varieties, where you can see the
different plants and see how they will mature and how to seed hem etc.
Does this disk have this or does it have like only 1 or 200 plants that
the average homeowner might want around the house and the most common
diseases that they would get.

Am I clear on what I'm looking for?

I've gotten too many disks in the past that I was very disappointed with
as they were not even close to what I was expexting.


CC-Let me know if you are interested
CC-
CC-C-3 Production Systems
CC-915-944-7187  Evenings are the best time to catch us.
CC-
CC-
CC-PO Box 60144
CC-San Angelo, Tx
CC-     76906
CC-

Thanks for your time

Dave Bakker


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From: LYNNDEL HUMPHREYS                      Number: 7956
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/01/93  6:22p
Subj: CATALOGUES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PC CD ROM retailers may send me their FREE catalogues to:
 
        Lynndel Humphreys
        5121 Mortier Avenue
        Orlando, Fl 32812

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From: TOM JORGENSON                          Number: 7957
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 11/30/93  9:24a
Subj: New Catalog                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (28 Nov 93) Ismail Arslangiray wrote to All...

 IA> Our new catalog and monthly specials are about to be mailed. If you
 IA> like to receive our catalogs, please contact us via netmail, fax or
 IA> postal service.

Please send a copy to: Tom Jorgenson, 3332 Highgate Lane, St. Charles, MO
63301. Thanks!

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From: RICHARD BUENTELLO                      Number: 7958
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/01/93 10:39p
Subj: COMPTONS ENCYCL.                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a good deal on Comptons interactive encyclopedia?


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From: JAMES CLEVENGER                        Number: 7959
  To: ERIC ENGELMANN                           Date: 12/01/93  5:44p
Subj: Re: Technical Shareware                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can you give more information on your C/C++ offering?  Are we talking about
ANSI standard source code, or a bunch of reference articles, or what?


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From: JIM FOWLER                             Number: 7960
  To: PAUL LAUGHLIN                            Date: 12/02/93 12:29a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Paul Laughlin to Byron Krohn <=-
 > Mitsumi LU002S CD-ROM drive, interface card, cables &
 > software for sale...
 PL> ... If it WILL run under OS/2 I will be
 PL> interested...   What is the speed on that?   Thank You...

 Paul,

 PMFJI, but I thought I'd let you and any other fellow OS/2
 enthusiasts know that in the past few days IBM has released
 the ship level OS/2 2.1 CDROM drivers for Mitsumi drives.
 The beta version of these drivers did not support the LU002
 but the ship level drivers do. The LU002 drives were also
 known as known as the Tandy CDR-1000 or BSR-6800.

 Supported Features
 ------------------
 The OS/2 Mitsumi CD-ROM device driver (MITFX001.ADD) supports the
 following features:

   * Reads data from CD-ROM discs conforming to the High Sierra/ISO-9660
     file formats.
   * Plays audio from standard audio CDs or mixed mode CD-ROM discs
     containing both data and audio
   * Multisession photo CD  (except for CRMC-LU002)
   * Reads data from Mode 2 Form 1 or Mode 2 Form 2 sector formats
   * MMPM/2 Software Motion Video
   * MMPM/2 CD Audio Player
   * Software lock, unlock and eject (Models FX001 and FX001D only)
   * Data transfer via software polling or interrupts

 Also released in the last few days, ship level OS/2 2.1 drivers
 for the Sony 31A, the Creative Labs OmniCD, the IBM ISA CDROM
 and the Panasonic 521, 522, 523, 562 and 563.

 You can find these new drivers on Compuserve, the IBM PC Co. BBS
 919-517-0001 and numerous OS/2 oriented BBSs.

 Regards,
 Jim Fowler



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From: THOMAS MENG                            Number: 7961
  To: FRANK SESLER                             Date: 12/02/93  6:52a
Subj: Busty Babes II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FS> I will take it.  Can you ship COD.  If not let me know how to get the 
FS> funds to you.  If COD possible.  Ship to:
 
  Frank just send a money order to... 
    Thomas Meng 
  81 Cedar Terrace 
  Hilton, NY. 14468 - 1443 
  
   The day I receive it is the day it will go out.... 
                               Tom
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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 7962
  To: PAUL SWIDER                              Date: 12/03/93  7:18a
Subj: Medical CD's Wanted                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Paul - I'll give you $15 shipped for this.  Jerry

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From: CRAIG REILLY                           Number: 7963
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/01/93 10:35p
Subj: Wanted...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hitachi 3500 with controller card and soft ware, can run up to 4
-> drives on one controller card, $125

I'll keep you in mind...Expenses are tight right now...I am taking care of an
uninsured motorist problem right now, and I have to pay sales tax, etc. on a
new car...Sorry...

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 7964
  To: CRAIG REILLY                             Date: 12/02/93 11:48a
Subj: Wanted...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CR>Is there anyone trying to sell a CD-ROM Drive for under $100.00
CR>bucks...I know it is asking for a lot...because they are
CR>expensive...but It would help my company out a lot...THANX!!

I've been trying to sell (locally) a slightly used Mitsumi LU002S, and have
been asking $125 or best offer.  I see in today's mailbag somebody else
offering the same model for $115.  I'll match that price if you're interested. 
It comes with the cables and disc, and it's very own (and required) 8-bit card.
 It's too slow for MPC, of course, but still good enough for any BBS
application, and most uses around the office.  IBM just released a new driver
that now supports this drive in OS/2.

What kind of company is it?  I see you are calling from Providence.  I used to
live in that town, back in the early '60s when I was stationed at Davisville.

If you aren't interested in the drive, perhaps somebody else reading this might
be.  I can receive netmail in care of the origin BBS.

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 7965
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 12/02/93  4:00a
Subj: New Catalog                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ronald Green said the following Ismail Arslangiray :
-RG>     Send me a copy of your new catalog.  Thanks....
-RG>          Ronald Green  399 Westmeade DR.  Gretna, LA  70056

And also to:
              Bryan Cotter  710 West Meade Dr. Nashville, Tn 37205

Wow, on the same street in two different states.  Now that's a long road. <G>
I'd like to get everyone else's catalogs to... So if ya got 'em, send 'em...

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From: DAVID DOYLE                            Number: 7966
  To: MIKE HIBBELER                            Date: 12/01/93  5:53p
Subj: CD-ROM BB FOR SALE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You got the wrong David Doyle!



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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 7967
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 12/02/93 11:28a
Subj: Cdrom Pricelist                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Richard Carter uttered the following to Ted Conley :
 -RC> TC> TM-->Please send me a copy of your CD-ROM catalog.
 -RC> On it's Way!!  Thanks!!!

Could ya send one here too?

        Bryan Cotter
        710 W. Meade Dr.
        Nashville, Tn 37205

Thanks...

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From: RICK MORRIS                            Number: 7968
  To: WC HILL                                  Date: 12/02/93  9:07a
Subj: cd storage boxes wanted                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  Occasionally I'll get a CD that comes in a cardboard wrapper/cover.
 > What I'd like to find is a plastic storage box/device that I can
 > store
 > these disks in, individually. Is there anything out there that other
 > users have found that works or is available commercially?

Check with your local Radio Shack...

Rick

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From: MATT HENDRIX                           Number: 7969
  To: ANYONE                                   Date: 12/02/93  7:49p
Subj: cds                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        I am looking for a Forbidden Subjects cd rom...  I know I can order it
for 39 bucks, but I wanted to know if anyone had it and wanted to sell it.. 
Also, anyone have any current shareware discs that they want to sell???

Matt Hendrix


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7970
  To: DAVID HEPKIN                             Date: 11/30/93  9:25p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DH>I was just wondering if you could recommend a good PCX Clipart/DeskTop
DH>Publishing CD?

Three very nice discs are Encyclopedia of Clipart @ $26, Clipart Heaven
@ $25, and Publisher's Dream Disc @ $35, which comes with a 184-page book
showing all the clipart and typefonts included.  All in stock.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7971
  To: STEPHEN LOCHMILLER                       Date: 11/30/93  9:26p
Subj: NEW CD LIST PT 1                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SL>I am just beginning to set up a BBS and am going to have a total of
SL>4 six pack CD Rom players for my users.  How can I tell from your list
SL>which ones are ok to use on a BBS

You can download or freq our catalog, "STARCAT.ZIP", which has descriptions
of all the CD's, as well as info on which ones are BBS-compatible.  If you
would like to d/l it from our BBS, the # is 509-457-0206, or you can freq
it from: 1:3407/101.

Thanks,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7972
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 11/30/93  9:26p
Subj: NEW CD LIST pt 1                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CB> > Monster Media 93 vol 2 (New!)....29.00

CB>Mike, if this is your regular price for all future releases as well (plus
sys
CB>shipping) can I get this sent on a regular basis as soon as you get them?
You
CB>have all my credit card info on file.

Chris,

No problem.  I'll put you down for a pre-order on release 3, which should be
out sometime around the first of the year.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7973
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/30/93  9:26p
Subj: HOBBES OS/2 10/93: $16                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #1:  NEW CD ARRIVALS   |
           |____________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

 20TH CENTURY SPORTS * Multimedia journal of sport history from 1900 on.$29
 ADVENTURES IN HEAVEN * Ultimate game collection!.......................$19
 A.S.P. SHAREWARE * Finally! A CD full of works from ASP authors........$22
 BUSTY BABES VOL 2 * The FIRST serious "soft" adult CD for BBS!.........$29
 DUNE * Exciting multimedia action game on CD! Great animation & sound..$39
 FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$24
 FRACTUNES * Colorful, ever-changing graphics synched with music........$30
 GAMES COLLECTION * A pure-games CD featuring 90% '93 file dates! BBS...$26
>GIF'S GALORE 9/93 * Thousands of new, brilliant, color .GIF images.....$16
 GIRLS OF MARDI GRAS * New "R" adult film showcasing wild party girls...$43
 GROLIER'S MPC 6.0 * The latest edition of Grolier's encyclopedia.......$45
 HEALTH & MEDICAL DIRECTORY * Guide to all doctors & hospitals in U.S...$27
>HOBBES OS/2 10/93 * The latest version w/ 3000 current OS/2 files!.....$16
 HOLLYWOOD THE BIZARRE * Lives & deaths of the stars w/ 1 hr. of voices.$43
 HORROR & SCI-FI FILMS * Full details of over 2300 films w/ 100s of pix.$43
 IMAGES OF NASA * The finest collection of authentic NASA photos........$25
>JEWEL CASES * They always break, so buy extras!.........................$1
 LA COLECCION * 600+mb of recent shareware w/ description is Spanish....$24
 LAN MASTER * High quality Networking utilities & technical notes.......$25
 LEARNING HEAVEN * Mind challenging educational games...................$19
 LINUX OPERATING SYSTEM * Unix-like operating system for PC's...........$29
 MAD DOG MCCREE * Great shoot 'em up game with real, full-motion video..$39
 MONSTER MEDIA 93 VOL 2 * 630+mb from May thru Aug. 93 with manual!.....$29
 MULTIMEDIA MAGIC COLLECTION * Complete commercial programs & M/M demos.$28
 NEWSWEEK INTERACTIVE * An exciting look back at Newsweek's top stories.$26
 OS/2BOX * The best, most recent OS/2 shareware CD. Fully BBS-ready.....$29
 -->SPECIAL PAK: OS/2BOX + HOBBES 10/93.................................$39
 PC KARAOKE * Complete Karaoke package with microphone! Great CD sound..$68
 PC SIG WINDOWS * Full of the latest Windows shareware..................$19
 PROJECT GUTENBERG * Texts from Project Gutenberg for 1991-1993.........$22
 PUBLISHER'S POWERHOUSE * 750 TrueType fonts + 8200 PCX images w/ book!.$29
 REEL CLIPS * 600mb of royalty-free digital video clips.................$25
 RETURN TO ZORK * Live-action video game w/ Hollywood actors. Great!....$50
 SHAREWARE 93 VOL 2 * Sep. 93 release w/ all new 1993 files! BBS-ready..$20
 SO MUCH SPACE! * A galaxy full of breathtaking scenes from space.......$24
 SOLAR HEAVEN * Nice collection of astronomy & astrology programs.......$23
 SPACE & ASTRONOMY * Over 7000 image & shareware files on astronomy.....$27
 SPACE SHUTTLE * Multimedia adventure aboard the shuttle w/ 50 missions.$25
 STAR TREK COLLECTIBLES * CD-ROM encyclopedia of Star Trek memorabilia..$59
>TECH ARSENAL * 1000's of recent, programming and techincal files.......$22
 WIN PLATINUM * Very nice new Windows CD with all programs ready to run.$24
 WINDOWS COLLECTION * A Windows-only CD with ALL '93 file dates! BBS....$26
 WORLD FACT BOOK M/M * Full multimedia guide for researchers or "spies".$23

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 7974
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/30/93  9:26p
Subj: CD-ROM PACKS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #5: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS   |
         |________________________________________________________|


   1. Night Owl 7.0        2. Night Owl 8.0       3. Busty Babes vol 2
      Night Owl 8.0           Night Owl 9.0          Digital Dreams
      Night Owl 9.0           Night Owl 10           Amateur Models
      -------------           ------------           --------------
      $59                     $69                    $79


   4. Night Owl 9.0        5. Night Owl 10        6. Pier 2
      Night Owl 10.0          Pier 3                 Pier 3
      --------------          ------                 ------
      $49                     $49                    $49


   7. Software Vault 1     8. Empire Clipart      9. Night Owl 10
      Software Vault 2        Clipart Heaven         Pier 3
      Software Vault Gold     Ency. of Clipart       Software Vault Gold
      -------------------     ----------------       -------------------
      $57                     $59                    $79


  10. CD Winbox           11. Giga Games         12. OS/2Box
      Windows 93              Game Arena             Hobbes OS/2
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  13. Fantazia Fonts      14. OS/2Box           15. Shareware Online 1
      Fontmaster 2            CD Powerbox           Shareware Online 2
      Too Many Typefonts      CD Winbox             So Much Shareware 3
      ------------------      ---------             -------------------
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From: THOMAS MENG                            Number: 7975
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/02/93  4:39p
Subj: Busty Babes II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PR> Will offer $22 shipped
PR> Pat
 
  I have a offer of $25.00 in which I accepted. Lets see what happens and I'll
get back to you... 
                                      Tom
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From: JEFF HUBERT                            Number: 7976
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/02/93  6:57p
Subj: games and cd-roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I think we were talking about the shareware extravaganza 4-disc cd-rom
shareware set. I will send it UPS, and based on your origin of your message it
won't take long to get to you so 2-day air would be a waste. 
I think, including shipping, that $31 is a fair price, as I will send it UPS,
and the disk is normally sold for $50-$60 new.
Unless you want to bargain further, you can send a check to
Jeff Hubert
3212 Rosway Ct.
Glenelg, MD 21737
My phone number is (410) 442-2726 is you need anything else.
thanks for replying.

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From: MICHAEL GUIDRY                         Number: 7977
  To: PAUL SWIDER                              Date: 12/02/93 10:13p
Subj: Medical Cd's Wanted                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 01 Dec 93, Paul Swider stated to Johnny Hudson:

PS>On 11-28-93 Johnny Hudson wrote to All...
PS>
PS> JH> I'm looking for CD-ROMs that contain medical programs/informat
PS> JH> Please leave info if you know of any or sell any.
PS>
PS>Johnny, I'm selling a ROM titled Emergency Medicine MEDLINE 1:1
PS>Winter 1992. It is a database with a search engine. Just type in a
PS>term or word you are looking for such as say Hypertension and then
PS>read the abstracts, articles, etc. that come up in the search. It g
PS>back about 5 years worth of info. Fairly recent stuff. $15 plus
PS>postage if interested. >Paul<
PS>

I'll take it if he doesn't.  Just let me know how you want to make the
deal.

... The pain-in-the-butt who made Marv write Win_Mail
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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 7978
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/02/93  8:18p
Subj: RBBS FMS CD-ROM SETUPS                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>   Terry Blount's "Cream of the Crop II" released 11/12/93 for $28.50!
>BBS READY, with RBBS extended description support from the Blue Parrot RBBS
>Discount for sysops $25.50 - We are distributors for this release!
          We don't markup our shipping costs, like other dealers:-)
      On-line for review & IMMEDIATE SHIPPING orders may also be placed
via: Joe Rinehart, The Blue Parrot RBBS, 1:157/479@fido, 8:965/13@rbbs,
18:176/711@kesher, or 2@2659 wwiv.  ZyXEL 16.8 data/fax: 216.296.4446,
voice: 216.296.9831, or voice: 216.296.1633 6pm-mid EST.
>RBBS FMS complete conference setup FREQ avail as CC2RBBS.zip(648k)w/instrc.
If ordered from us, we'll give you the password:)

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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 7979
  To: WILLIAM WRIGHT                           Date: 12/02/93  3:04p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

A life form named WILLIAM beamed aboard the Enterprise and said:

 > RON, Is this Mitsumi the caddy or caddyless model ?
 > Internal or
 > external? Thanks,
 > Cliff
 > (904)477-0210
 > PENSACOLA,FL

WW>The 350 MS version was the one where you pushed the front in and it came
WW>enabling you to put the disc in, then you push it back in (a little more
WW>than the newer sliding tray model.

But you can ALWAYS get your disc back even if the drive craps on you. <g>.

Ron


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From: MANNY SILVA                            Number: 7980
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/30/93 12:00a
Subj: CDROMS                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for some Adult CD-Roms at a REASONABLE price. Anyone out there!!??

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From: CRAIG CHLADNY                          Number: 7981
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 12/02/93 11:42p
Subj: Re: CDROM Pricing-Walnut Crk            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can you please send me a CD-ROM/CD catalog and/or price-list?

Craig Chladny
907 Devonshire Rd.
Washington, IL 61571-132607

 FidoNET: Craig Chladny 1:232/13.0  C-Link: Craig Chladny 911:6020/0.0
MajorNET: King@FLC               FutureNET: #14@#36
InterNET: Mr.King@Barts-Tale.ecore.fnet.org

Ask about Simple and BASIC Custom Programming!
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From: DICK WALSH                             Number: 7982
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/02/93  9:01a
Subj: RE: SHAREWARE STUDIO III                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris when I called you the other day you had a 800 number   didn't you
also I did expect a shipment from you that you said would go 2nd day
delivery of CD's  I did expect you to ship on Monday and it did not arrive
on Wednesday   I am not worried about it but you paid the post office for
something that they are not doing for you. Better check into it <Richard
Walsh>

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From: JEREMY ROLLINGS                        Number: 7983
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/02/93  2:55a
Subj: Free CD-ROM !!!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Good deal!!! There's a free CD in the December issue of Multimedia
World Magazine. The mag costs $3.95 and includes a disk which 
is supposed to have a full 600MB of software demos on it, 
plus a couple shareware programs. 

The mag itself is quite cool. Good reviews of CD and MPC titles. 
You can probably find it at news stand or supermarket. Enjoy!!!

Jeremy in Chicago. 

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From: GRAHAM MOSS                            Number: 7984
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 12/02/93  4:40p
Subj: Canadian Distribution                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hayden, Could you fax me a list of the CDROM software you have for sale with
pricing - FAX # 613-389-4349 (Kingston, Ont.)

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From: MARTIN YEE                             Number: 7985
  To: THOMAS MENG                              Date: 12/01/93  4:59p
Subj: Busty babes ii                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TM>   I have for sale the new Busty Babes 2 disk. I'll take the fisrt Hi Tom
   Interested in a trade for any of the following: The Animals! MPC CDROM
Macmillan Dictionary for Children MPC CDROM


Martin Yee

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From: ALAN LE                                Number: 7986
  To: MING WU                                  Date: 12/01/93  6:44p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > IF you or anybody out there wants a new, internal, hitachi Cd-ROM 
 > drive, I have one for $350. This includes the SCSI interface card 
 > for the drive. The drive is being sold for this price since it is 
 > actually being resold from my distributor (I am a reseller). If you 
 > want, I'm still willing to bargain. So if you want it, leave me a 
 > message. -Ming Wu

Could you give me the specs for the Cd-ROM? (seek time, kb transfer rate, etc.)
 Thanks.

Alan Le

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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 7987
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/01/93  8:35p
Subj: CDROM Disc Holiday Speci                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To: 1:282/31 
 
Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM's 
from:  ComputerHelp 
       PO Box 385041 
       Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
       Ph:  (612) 890-4750 
       Fax:  (612) 894-9411 
 
(as of 12/02/93) 
 
SIMTEL MSDOS...................$13.00 
CICA MS Windows................$13.00 
Hobbes OS/2....................$13.00 
Aminet Amiga...................$13.00 
Garbo MSDOS/Mac................$13.00 
Sprite OS......................$13.00 
QRZ! Ham Radio.................$13.00 
ADA Programming................$18.50 
GIGA Games.....................$18.50 
La Coleccion...................$18.50 
Nova for NeXTs.................$18.50 
Project Gutenberg..............$18.50 
Source Code....................$18.50 
X11/GNU........................$18.50 
Info-Mac.......................$25.50 
CUG Library....................$23.50 
Linux..........................$23.50 
Libris Britannia...............$34.00 
Space and Astronomy............$18.50 
 
***SPECIAL***SPECIAL***SPECIAL*** 
=>>> Order 3 at once and take an Extra $1 Off of Each <<<= 
 
(Limited Time Offer!!! Print and enclose this ad with 
  your order.  Good through 12/31/93!!!!) 
 
Shipping:  1-3 discs in one order = $4.50, 4-10 discs 
           in one order = $6.50. 
(MN residents add 6.5% sales tax).

 
All prices subject to change without notice. 
 
"Yes Mildred, we do take personal cheques!" 
 
All orders by pre-payment, (you want cheap prices....); 
send to address above.  Call with questions. 
(Sorry, we don't accept credit cards:  they add to the

price and we want to be able to offer you the CHEAPEST 
PRICES AVAILABLE.  "Thank You for Your Support!!! 
-  Richard Carter 
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From: ERIC HO                                Number: 7988
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 12/02/93  8:43p
Subj: Distributor in Europe                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Ok, our company is interested but, obviously, more details are
> required.  Could you please supply, at least, the following:-

> 1)  Would we get an "exclusive" distributorship in Finland if we made an
> agreement?  Finland is a very small, argricultural, country of 5 million sou

> 2)  What kind of minimum purchase would be required to maintain
> distributorship?

> 3)  Would you demand a minimum monthly turnover?

> 4)  What would the pricing structure be?

> 5)  Would the CDs be available, for "other" dealers via other routes at the
> same or cheaper prices?

> 6)  What kind of upgrade strategy do you have to keep the content of your CD
> up-to-date?


Please give me your company phone & fax nuumber, also address. I don't want to
reply message via echo mail. Call me at 408-748-9988 or fax at 408-748-9989.

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From: DOUG HUMMEL                            Number: 7989
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/02/93  6:07p
Subj: Cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I NEED A BROKEN CDR-3500 DRIVE SO I CAN FIX MY SOUND SECTION OF THE DRIVE. I
WOULD BE WILL TO TRADE DRIVE FOR ONE WITH THE SOUND WORKING PLUS A SMALL
DIFFERENCE IN CASH. PLEASE LET KNOW, I HAVE SEVERAL KIDS CHOPPING AT THE BIT TO
HEAR THE SOUND. I AM ALSO GOING TO USE IT FOR TEACHING MY YOUNGEST KID WHO ALSO
IS HANDCAPED. SEND REPLIES TO DOUG HUMMEL AT 6602 30TH TERRACE, GAINESVILLE,
FL. HOME PHONE IS 372-4610  HOPE TO HEAR FROM SOMEONE SOON
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From: MICHAEL COLLIER                        Number: 7990
  To: CLIFF FIVEASH                            Date: 12/02/93 11:41p
Subj: Asian Ladies Warning!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CF>RL>--- WM v3.10/91-0114
CF>RL> * Origin: Mr. Bills Place BBS! ** Tampa, FL ** (813) 920-2193  
CF>(1:3603/170)
CF> 
CF>KINDA' SPOILS AN OTHERWISE, PRETTY GOOD DISC, DOESN'T IT. THEY ARE
CF>SLIPPING THE C__KSUCKERS IN EVERYWHERE THESE DAYS--EVEN OUR "PRESIDENT
CF>APPOINTS THEM TO CABINET POSTS!!!! KINDA' MAKES YOU WONDER WHAT HIS
CF>"TRUE COLORS" REALLY ARE DOESN'T IT? LATER,
CF>Cliff



    Someone should make up a disc of Right Wing C__ksuckers and they could 
call it "FAR RIGHT FAGS" or "SMALL MINDS BIG D__KS!" 

    But you know, they'd probably have a problem with finding Right 
Wingers with big enough BALLS . . . Maybe they could could ship along a 
complementary magnification program with the disc.

    Just a suggestion . . 

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7991
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 12/01/93  1:19p
Subj: Adult Cds sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What happened to our trade?  Pc Pix1 for T&A to the maxx?

Please reply asap.

Thanks
Scott raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7992
  To: THOMAS MENG                              Date: 12/01/93  1:21p
Subj: Busty Babes II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will give you $25 for it or trade you for another cd like Storm
I?


Please reply asap.

Thanks
Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7993
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/01/93  1:23p
Subj: cd rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will offer you $35 a piece for those hitachi cdrom drives that
need repair plus pay shipping.

Please let me know.

Thanks
Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7994
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/01/93  1:24p
Subj: Cd Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can you give me some prices on those close out models?

CDrom drives....

thakns
Scott raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7995
  To: PAT DELIN                                Date: 12/01/93  1:25p
Subj: Cd Rom for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Will trade you a copy of WordPerfect 5.2 for Windows for that cdrom
drive.

Please reply.

Thanks
Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7996
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 12/01/93  1:27p
Subj: CD's 4-Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CAn you send me a list of all your shareware and adult titles.

Thanks
Netmail: 1:2612/104

Scott Raley
Box 76
ridge, Md 20680-0076
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7997
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/01/93  1:29p
Subj: CD-ROM Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in these for my bbs, but all I can offer right now
is a trade for WordPerfect 5.2 for Windows and pay for shipping.
Wanna trade?

Please reply.
Thanks
Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7998
  To: ERIC HO                                  Date: 12/01/93  1:33p
Subj: Distributor wanted                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in becoming a reseller of your cds.  Please send me
information netmail to: 1:2612/104

thanks
Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 7999
  To: BILL JONES                               Date: 12/01/93  1:35p
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Are you interested in trading for a copy of WordPerfect 5.2 for
Windows?

Please reply.

Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8000
  To: BRYAN COTTER                             Date: 12/01/93  1:36p
Subj: JPEG CD's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have an adult cd, amatuer models that has 24 bit TIFF and GIF on
it.

Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8001
  To: PAT DELIN                                Date: 12/01/93  1:36p
Subj: Magnavox CDD-461                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How much for the cdrom?

Interested in trading?

Thanks
Scott raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8002
  To: ALAN ORNDORFF                            Date: 12/01/93  1:38p
Subj: Os/2 2.1                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

os/2 2.1 cdrom    $50

Scott Raley
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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 8003
  To: GENE MILLSAPS                            Date: 12/02/93 11:42p
Subj: Re: Encarta for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Gene Millsaps to Eddie Phillips <=-

 EP>I have Microsoft's Encarta encyclopedia CD for sale. . . .
 EP>
 EP>  . . . .  I am asking $110 delivered...
 EP>
 EP>... Voice: 919-870-6926 (eves/weekends)

 GM> Are you aware that Egghead sells the 1994 version for about $80, in
 GM> the store? Evidently MicroSoft has had major re-thinking on its
 GM> pricing.
 GM> Good luck.

Are you aware that the $80 price is only good until the end of the year ??
No, it's Microsoft's undercutting-the-competition to win lost customers.
They did it with Windoze against OS/2, now they're doing it with Encarta
against Grolier's and Comptons.  The difference here is I think Encarta is
pretty decent product.
 
... Windows: from the people that brought you Edlin.
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 8004
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/02/93  4:07p
Subj: Tree Dim. CD Storage?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        I have a CD storage unit from a company called Tree Dimensions.
        It is a 2-shelf unit for minimum-height storage of 2 rows of
        CDs. The company makes two 2-shelf units... the one I'm interested
        in is the shorter of the two. I'd like to purchase another of
        these to match the one we have. Anyone sell them? If so, please
        provide details here, or call 913-888-5201 ext.257 (M-F 8a-4p
        Central, or leave voice mail).

        For reference, the unit is made out of wood, with 3 "holding"
        rails for each "shelf", and a dividing block to separate the
        CDs on each level.

- Heather
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8005
  To: WILLIAM WRIGHT                           Date: 12/03/93  2:11a
Subj: Re: ????????                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Can anyone tell me about Night Owl Games like how many megs it
>>    has and stuff.

Night Owl Games is about 130 megs in size and contains some 1,000 games
in 19 diffrent directories.

Most of the files are dated 1993, but there are 1992 files on the cd as
well.

You'll find games from Apogee and Epic to D&D and Windows.

Interested, we have them in stock, so please feel free to give us a call
at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be glad to help.

We also have several other cd's that are much large in size and are bbs
ready as well !!

Boris Osadciw

... I married the Mail Lady!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8006
  To: STEWART GAY                              Date: 12/03/93  2:11a
Subj: Re: New cd                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>>            C R E A M     O F     T H E     C R O P    I I
BO>>
BO>>OVER 654 MEGS New Shareware   4987 Files Dated '93'  Dup Checked
BO>>Virus Checked                 Files.BBS Support      Multi Line
BO>>Discription Mouse Support Menu            14Megs Prog Code       Plus
BO>>MORE !!! Only 200 prog Older Than April '93' - 10% Dup to NO10, Pier3,
BO>>Software Gold
BO>>                               PRICE - $25.
BO>>
BO>>ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263   FAX
BO>>216-225-6759
BO>>Boris Osadciw

>>    When you say files.bbs support, does that mean they will work
>>    rbbs style Fms dir listing or will I have to go back and type
>>    all those files by hand in the FMS listing?
>>    Stewart..

No, the files.bbs structure is name - size - date and discription. There
are also several programs that will convert this structure to PCBoard,
ProBoard, Quick BBS and RA as well. I'am sure one of these structures
will make the installation of the cd a lot easier.

Interested, give us a call at the above number and we'll be glad to help you
out !

Boris Osadciw

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From: MARK CROSBIE                           Number: 8007
  To: ALAN ORNDORFF                            Date: 12/02/93  5:52p
Subj: OS/2 2.1                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -> I have an extra copy of OS/2 2.1 on c.d. rom collecting dust.
 -> got the os/2 for windows version and don't need both.  Make an

I take that this is a complete version and not just an upgrade from 2.0.
I will take it if it is a full version, and includes the registration
card.

Send it to
           Mark Crosbie
           BossMan's HideOut BBS
           P.O. Box 326
           London, Oh 43140

I will send the m.o. plus shiping when I receive the package.

Mark


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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8008
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 12/03/93  7:43a
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ok, my address is:
Scott Raley
box 76
ridge, MD 20680-0076
 
I will be looking for it!
 
Thanks

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8009
  To: JOHN PIERCE                              Date: 12/03/93  7:45a
Subj: Cd-Rom Bb For Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ok I will give you $27 which includes 2 day priority mail (2.90) not the $9
whatever it was.  IF this is exceptable please send me your address.
 
thanks
Scott Raley
Box 76
Ridge, MD 20680-0076

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8010
  To: JEFF HUBERT                              Date: 12/03/93  7:47a
Subj: games and cd-roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ok, thats great, $31 for shareware Extravaganza.  My address is:
Scott Raley
Box 76 curley Rd
ridge, MD 20680-0076
 
I will send you out a check tomorrow.
 
thanks
scott

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From: MIKE BILOW                             Number: 8011
  To: ROBERT MOORE                             Date: 12/03/93  6:07p
Subj: Novell Netware 3.xx & CDROMs            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Nov 24 05:03>, Robert Moore of 1:275/47 writes:

 RM> I have heard that Novell Netware 3.xx directly supports CDROM 
 RM> drives.  Does anyone know if that includes the old Hitachi 
 RM> CDR3500 drives?  These use an 8bit controller model number 
 RM> CD-IFI8-S.  If Novell Netware 3.xx does not directly support 
 RM> these Hitachi drives, is there a driver that can be linked into 
 RM> Netware that will allow the network to recognize these 
 RM> drives?

1.  You must use SCSI CD-ROM drives.

2.  You must use a supported SCSI controller; that is, there must be a Netware
v3.1x *.DSK file available either from Novell or the controller manufacturer. 

3.  You must load ASPI support; that is, the controller and driver must be ASPI
compatible.

4.  You must obtain a third-party driver for the CD-ROM drives, such as Corel
SCSI for Netware.

-- Mike

P.S.  Please don't follow up on this message in the CDROM_SALE echo; it is
somewhat off-topic to begin with.  I would suggest the NOVELL echo.

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 8012
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93  9:30a
Subj: *Q&A CD-ROM & other CD's                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROMS for Sale

Q&A 4.0 from Symantec ..........................  $39
Tax-Prep 1993 ..................................  $15
CD-ROM Premier .................................  $14
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $19
Toolworks US Atlas and Automap .................  $24
Toolworks World Atlas ..........................  $24
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $69
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $10
PC Sig Library 9th edition .....................  $12
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $19

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Registered Symantec Q&A Consultant


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 8013
  To: MIKE BARROW                              Date: 12/03/93  9:47a
Subj: Microsoft encarta                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>Have '93 Version of Microsoft Encarta Encyclopedia, boxed with all docs.
MB>$60.00 obo:

   I can use another copy for my daughter's machine.
   $40 including shipping is offered.
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Registered Symantec Q&A Consultant


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 8014
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/02/93  2:35p
Subj: CD-ROM drive prices!                    Refer: NONE
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                    //      DECEMBER 01, 1993      \\
                    \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/////////////////

                       Current price list effective
          Don't purchase a drive before calling and checking out
                   our GREAT selection on NEW and USED
                             CD-ROM Drives!!

                        This months special are:
       Philips CM-215/10, SCSI-2, 360/150, MS Photo, with SCSI Card
                                $230.00 ea
       Philips CM-206/10, AT BUS, 325/300, MS Photo, D.Speed w/card
                                $253.00 ea

         >>>>DEALER PRICING IS AVAILABLE TO ALL RESELLERS TOO!<<<<

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   * Toshiba 3101B (N)............$219.00  INT,SCSI,BARE,300MS,BUYOUTS
   * Toshiba 3401B (N)............$389.00  INT,SCSI,BARE,200MS,D-SPD
   * Panasonic CR-562B (FN).......$259.00  INT,AT BUS,D-SPD COMPLETE!
   * Sony CD-31A (FN).............$199.00  INT,AT BUS,I/O COMPLETE!
   * Sony CD-31A/03 (FN)..........$269.00  INT,AT BUS,D-SPD MPC 2
   * Hitachi CDR-101 (FN) (NEW)...$199.00  INT,AT BUS,I/O COMPLETE!
   * TEAC CD-50 (FN)..............$399.00  INT,SCSI,D-SPD,MPC 2,BARE!
NEW* Philips CM-215/10 (FN).......$230.00  INT,SCSI,PLUG AND PLAY!
NEW* Philips CM-206A (FN).........$253.00  INT,AT BUS,D-SPD,COMPLETE!
   * Philips CD-215/01 (FN).......$190.00  INT,SCSI,BARE DRIVE
   * NEC Model-36 (U).............$125.00  EXT,SCSI,NO SCSI CARD
   * PIONEER DRM-604X(FN)........$1289.00  PWR/AUD CORDS,MAGAZINE,DRVR
WOW* PIONEER DRM-600A(FD).........$799.00  PWR/AUD CORDS,FULL WARRANTY
   * TRANTOR T-130 SCSI CARD.......$74.00  25PIN EXTERNAL CONNECTIONS!
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         TO AVOID THE DISAPPOINTMENT MANY PEOPLE ARE HAVING DUE TO
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From: RALPH OFFREDO                          Number: 8015
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 12/02/93 12:13p
Subj: Re: ADULT CDS SALE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ken, am intrested in your cd sales, anymore titles? give me a call at
215-295-1566.....Hawq
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From: PAUL DEEMER                            Number: 8016
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93  7:32p
Subj: CDs for Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I found out that I was able to return all the multimedia stuff I ordered
from computability in exchange for what I wanted. SO the multimedia outfit
is off the market. I have the following tittles for sale and they are 
less than 2 weeks old and barely used.
 
 National Parks from Multicom, (Not National Parks Guide) but the GOOD ONE
 with 100s of SVGA photos and 40 or so Full motion video clips of over 250
 of Americas Finest parks. $50.00 includes Shipping.
 
 Rebel Assault from Lucas Arts $40.00 Includes Shipping

 If interested contact me at 1-803-543-3844, I will not be on the BBS for
awhile so if you want to get in touch with me pronto. CALL.

  

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8017
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 12/03/93  1:29a
Subj: NEW WINDOWS & GAMES CD'S                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RL>MIke, this is my THIRD request to you for more info on this disc! One was on
RL>compuserve. Do you want to sell me one or not? How many megs on the disk?
RL>Are they really all 1993 programs?

Ron,

Sorry, have been in and out of town lately and have missed a lot of my mail.
This is a "best of" CD with 100% 1993 files, and *around* 250mb total.  Fully
BBS-ready.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8018
  To: PAUL LAUGHLIN                            Date: 12/03/93  1:29a
Subj: BUY PIER3 GET A CD FREE!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PL>Hey Mike....  What's up?   I am interested in you're Pier 3/ Free CD...  If
y
PL>can ship this COD I will want to oredr it.  If not please respond and I'll
se
PL>what I can do. Please respond at 1:116/110.   Thank You.   Paul Laughlin

Paul,

Give me a call and I'm sure we can get you fixed up!

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8019
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93  1:29a
Subj: DECEMBER CD PRICE$ 1/3                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Majestic Places...............38.50
 20th Century Sports (New!)....29.00    Mantis........................24.00
 20th Century Video Almanac....29.00    Mario is Missing/World Atlas..25.00
 5-Star Premium Windows........27.00    Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50
 7th Guest.....................39.00    Mayo Clinic MPC...............26.00
 9-Digit Zip Code Guide (New!).32.00    Mega Clipart..................27.00
 9000 Sounds (New!)............25.00    Microsoft Bookshelf 1992 MPC..35.00
 A.S.P. Shareware (New!).......22.00    Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..49.00
 Action Traveler (New!)........29.00    Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00
 Adventures in Heaven (New!)...19.00    Microsoft Golf MPC............48.50
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...25.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........49.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........35.00    Middle East Diary.............35.00
 American Business Phonebk 91..17.00    MIDI Music Shop...............26.50
 American Business Phonebk 93..25.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50
 Aminet Amiga..................15.00    Monarch Notes.................48.00
 Anecdotes 1...................14.50    Monster Media 93 vol 2 (New!).29.00
 Anecdotes 2...................14.50    Mother Earth 2................28.00
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 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......19.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....18.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....22.00    Multimedia Magic Collection...28.00
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 C User's Group Library........29.00    Our Solar System..............13.00
 Canadian Shareware............19.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....27.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    PC-SIG 12.....................19.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-SIG 13 (Pre-orders)........33.00
 CD Powerbox ($6 w/ any order).15.00    PC-SIG Windows (New!).........19.00
 CD Winbox 1.01................24.00    PC Gameroom...................24.00
 CD-ROM of CD-ROMs ($9 w/ ord).29.00    PC Karaoke w/ Microphone......68.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Pentomino.....................23.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Peter and the Wolf............25.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phoenix 4.0...................19.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phonedisc USA.................69.00
 Clipart Galore................22.50    Pier 2........................24.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 3 (In Stock!)............29.00
 Clipart Heaven................25.00    Pier 2/3 Pak..................49.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00    Pinacotheca Multimedia........24.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    Pixel Garden..................34.00
 Companion for Windows (New!)..23.50    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Companion for WordPerfect.....23.50    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0.............13.00
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 Compton's Interactive Ency....89.00    Prescription Drugs............27.00

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8020
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93  1:29a
Subj: DECEMBER CD PRICE$ 2/3                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....64.00    Profiles of Colleges..........29.50
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....64.00    Project Gutenberg (New!)......22.00
 Computer Reference Library....13.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak.......... 96.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....34.50    ProPhone 1993 Business........29.00
 Cookbook Heaven...............23.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 CorelDraw 3.0.................79.00    Publish-It 2.0................25.00
 Cybergenic Ranger.............19.50    Publisher's Dream Disc........35.00
 Dagger of Amon Ra.............32.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Publisher's Powerhouse (New!).29.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Q&A 4.0.......................39.00
 Dare, Bluff, or Die (New!)....29.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Day of the Tentacle...........44.50    Reader's Library..............20.50
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Reel Clips....................25.00
 Desert Storm..................33.50    Reference Library ............24.50
 Desktop Bookshop..............22.50    Return to Zork (New!).........50.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...37.00
 Dictionary of Living World....32.50    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............33.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
 Dinosaurs!....................33.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
 Dr. Games.....................20.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Dr. Music.....................20.00    Shareware 1993 vol 2 (New!)...20.00
 Dr. Shareware.................20.00    Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......49.00
 Dr. Windows...................20.00    Shareware Online 1............25.00
 DTPro.........................26.50    Shareware Online 2............29.00
 Dune (New!)...................39.00    Shareware Overload............13.00
 Ecoquest......................27.50    Shareware Studio 1............19.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Studio 2............23.00
 Electronic Cookbook...........29.00    Shareware Studio 3............25.00
 Electronic Home Library.......29.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Electronic Library of Art.....39.50    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.00
 Empire Clipart................19.50    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...49.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...49.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.00    Sights & Sounds...............22.50
 European Monarchs.............35.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Family Doctor.................26.00    Sleeping Beauty (New!)........25.00
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......26.50    So Much Screenware............27.50
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 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8021
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93  1:29a
Subj: DECEMBER CD PRICE$ 3/3                  Refer: NONE
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 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Stellar 7.....................19.50
 Grammy Awards.................36.00    Straight from Heaven (New!)...19.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Street Atlas USA v2...........94.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    STW Illustrated Encyclopedia..34.00
 Great Wonders of the World....42.00    STW Multimedia Encyclopedia...44.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency 6.0 (New!).45.00    STW MPC Encyclopedia..........44.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...23.00    Super Games For Windows.......10.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 93...29.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........35.50
 Hacker Chronicles.............25.00    Tech Arsenal (New!)...........21.50
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Technotools...................13.00
 Hamware 1993..................23.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..19.00
 Health & Medical Directory....27.50    Terrorist Group Profiles......35.00
 Hobbes OS/2 10/93.............16.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Hollywood the Bizarre (New!)..43.50    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Timetable of Business/Politic.26.00
 Home Designer (New!)..........29.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Home/Business Legal Guide.....13.00    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Horror & Sci-Fi Films (New!)..43.50    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.00
 House of Games................18.50    Total Baseball 1992...........24.00
 Images of NASA (New!).........25.00    Total Baseball 1993 (New!)....28.00
 Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00    Total Heart by Mayo Clinic....49.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Trump Castle..................28.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    U.S./World Atlas MPC..........25.00
 Interactive Story Time 3......29.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................23.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Int'l Graphics Library........27.50    U.S. History..................29.00
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....29.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........39.00    U.S. Wars: Civil War..........34.00
 Jets & Props..................28.50    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 Jewel Cases....................1.00    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 Jokes & Pranks................13.00    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............34.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Wars: WWII...............34.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............39.00    USA Today: The 90's (New!)....36.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    VGA Spectrum 1................13.00
 King's Quest V................20.00    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 King's Quest VI (Retail Box)..39.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    Wildcat Gold..................20.50
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........19.00    Win Platinum..................24.00
 La Colleccion (Spanish S/W)...22.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Lan Master....................25.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 Languages of the World........37.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Learning Adventure............13.00    Windows Collection (New!).....26.00
 Learning Heaven (New!)........19.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Library of the Future #1......39.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Libris Britannia..............34.00    World Atlas MPC...............23.00
 Linux (New!)..................29.00    World Fact Book M/M...........23.00
 Loom..........................19.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...35.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mac Shareware.................19.00    World Traveler................13.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........29.00    World View....................24.00
 Macromind Action..............35.00    World Vision 3-Pak............39.00
 Mad Dog McCree (New!).........39.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    X11R5/GNU.....................24.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8022
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93  1:29a
Subj: ADULT "R" CD TITLES 4SALE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 December 1993        SOFTCORE ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST   Last update: 12/03
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
 Amateur Models (New!).........34.00    High Volume Nudes (New!)......36.50
 American Girls (New!).........34.00    L.A. Strippers (Movie)........49.00
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......29.00    Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......48.00    Photo Gallery (New!)..........34.00
 Digital Dreams................28.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......33.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Girls of Mardi Gras (New!)....43.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: KIRK REEVES                            Number: 8023
  To: DAN ROBINSON                             Date: 12/03/93  5:35p
Subj: CD-Rom Wanted!!!! Cheap!!!!!!           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DR> * On 11-29-93 at 23:54 Kirk Reeves uttered these 
 DR> remarkable words to Lee Dette
KR> The prices for CD-Roms are dropping.  A couple of days ago I
KR> got a brand new panasonic  double-spin with kodak-photo
KR> capability for $190.00  (Plus the dealer threw in a cd-rom
KR> disk)

 DR> Would you mind sharing with us where you found this great deal????

This was at a trade show in Portland where you are bound to get good prices if
you haggle.  The man I brought the drive from also does business on this echo
selling cd-disks.  I don't know If I should mentioned the man's name since now
everytime  he sees me at the trade show he shudders.   Well instead of
mentioning the guy's name since I want some more great bargains and don't want
him to die from a heart attack, I won't tell you his name but give you a clue. 
He is located in the state of Washington.  (Maybe that is not much help since
there are at least three vendor
on this echo from Washington.)  If he wants others to know you can almost rob
him cheap (At least he says I rob him) just by haggling like in a bazaar,
he can tell you.

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 8024
  To: THOMAS MENG                              Date: 12/03/93  7:50a
Subj: Busty Babes II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Thomas!

Thursday December 02 1993, Thomas Meng writes to Pat Rickerson:

 PR>> Will offer $22 shipped
 PR>> Pat

 TM>   I have a offer of $25.00 in which I accepted. Lets see what happens and
 TM> I'll get back to you... Tom * SPITFIRE v3.4 -+- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3

OK will do, thanks
Pat

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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 8025
  To: JEREMY ROLLINGS                          Date: 12/03/93  4:18p
Subj: Free CD-ROM !!!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (02 Dec 93) Jeremy Rollings wrote to All...

 JR> Good deal!!! There's a free CD in the December issue of Multimedia
 JR> World Magazine. The mag costs $3.95 and includes a disk which 
 JR> is supposed to have a full 600MB of software demos on it, 
 JR> plus a couple shareware programs. 

  The programs are not shareware.   Includes 10-15 of the VERY latest
  commercial programs (full blown editions).  Problems, no dox or save
  features ALSO, limited number of trial runs.  Just took a look at it
  and it includes AMI Pro 3.1, WP 5.2 for Windows, Energizer Rabbit and
  others.  For $3.95 its a worthwhile investment, you get the complete
  look and feel of the programs and it also includes online ordering.
  Plan on spending several days drooling and slobbering with this CD.
  Oh yea as Jeremy said the Magazine is pretty good too and you can
  order it for $9.95 for a 12 issue subscription.  Overall I think its
  a real good deal.  Waldon's doesn't carry (stupid on their part) it
  but B. Dalton's has it.  Better get it pronto as I would suspect once
  the word gets out it will be going pretty quickly.

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From: ROB O'DELL                             Number: 8026
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/02/93  7:39p
Subj: BUY PIER3 GET A CD FREE!                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->    LIMITED TIME OFFER:  Buy Pier 3, and get CD Powerbox Shareware FRE

If you'll take a company check COD, go ahead and send this to:

CAP, Inc.
1996 Nadeau Road
Monroe, Mi  48161

If not, let me know and I'll prepay....


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From: ROB O'DELL                             Number: 8027
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/02/93  7:48p
Subj: Trade?                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a few discs I'd like to trade for a couple of shareware disks.

I have:
Hobbes OS/2 1992
Night Owl 6 1992
Microsoft Small Business Consultant/Microsoft Stat Pack (1 disc)
Compton's MultiMedia Encyclopedia 1991 Special Edition

I'd like to get:
Pier 2 and 3.  Or 2 comparable discs for a BBS.

If the trade isn't enough, let me know the difference in $$.

Thanks
Rob


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From: GARY GILMORE                           Number: 8028
  To: CLIFF FIVEASH                            Date: 12/03/93  1:30a
Subj: Peir 3                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CF> p.s. I sent this private because I have customers who are staunch
 CF>      advocates of Pier 3. :-) This is a private,  personal
 CF>      recommendation.

Surprise!  There IS no such thing as "Private" in an echomail area.

If you want private, use netmail, or better yet, a phone.

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From: LORI SMITH                             Number: 8029
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/02/93 12:55p
Subj: Cc2 -File List?                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello everyone...

I am interested in obtaining the allfiles list for the Cream Of The
Crop 2 CD.  I would like to take a look at what files are on it,
before I make a decision to purchase it.  Does anyone know where
I might be able to FREQ this from?

Thanks
Lori Smith
@1:231/610

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From: JEFF JOHNSEN                           Number: 8030
  To: PAT DELIN                                Date: 12/03/93 12:20p
Subj: MAGNAVOX CDD-461                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

sure, How much are you asking? post reply here or call Jeff @ 701-237-4830


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From: NINO FAGAN                             Number: 8031
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 12/01/93  4:11p
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices11/23/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Richard Carter wrote  
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
:>Nino, we would like to have you as a customer, and with our LOW
:>PRICES, we hope we can earn your business.
:>Thanks for the inquiry,
:>Richard Carter
:>ComputerHelp
:>(612) 890-4750
:>Fax: (612) 894-9411 
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

Thanks for the reply.  You can expect a check in the mail shortly
for the following:

ADA Programming.......$18.50
Linux.................$23.50

Regards, 
Nino
... Support Shareware, or pay commercial prices!
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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 8032
  To: GORDON FLETCHER                          Date: 12/02/93  3:28a
Subj: NIGHT OWL                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Any further word on the status of Night Owl? Are they going to make it through
the legal battle you mentioned earlier? What are they being sued for?

Chris

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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 8033
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 12/02/93  6:53p
Subj: NEC 3xi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for the best price on NEC 3xi.
 
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From: LYN BORCHERT                           Number: 8034
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93  6:13p
Subj: Jem Disc                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jem Disc Shareware/PD CD-ROM

The CD-ROM designed with the sysop in mind.  This collection of files was
put together with the thought that some with a smaller hard drive who
wanted to have a BBS with a good sized file section could do so.

Every directory on the CD is named in such a way that you can easily tell
what kinds of files are in it.

Every directory with files has a FILES.BBS file in it.

There is a main directory that contains an all files list.

A program is provided that allows you to easily browse the file areas and
descriptions.

A free BBS door program is provided, so if your BBS program can't handle
files on a CD-ROM you can use the door.

Classic files are there.  For Example, the Archive Directory contains all
the popular archive programs, not just the latest release of PKZIP.

All popular file areas were included.  59 different areas (and directories)

Our Support boards have pre-made data files for ROM BRAIN & ROM DOOR.
Others will be available as we complete them.

Compared to other Shareware/PD CD-ROM I think you'll agree, Jem Disc is one
of the better arranged and thought out ROMs.

Additional information can be obtained by calling one of the suport boards
listed below.  You won't have to go through a lengthly logon process, all
Jem Disc related files are available to all callers before entering the
BBS.

We look forward to hearing from you with your Holiday order.

For more information on Jem Disc, please contact our Support Bulletin Board
Systems at the following telephone numbers:

The Hour Glass BBS   (602)326-2999   24 hours   ZyXEL 16.8K (fido 1:300/12)
The Prospector BBS   (916)921-9949   24 hours      v.32bis  (fido 1:203/49)

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 8035
  To: MICHAEL SPEARS                           Date: 12/03/93  6:36a
Subj: sound effects library                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Michael,

Answering a msg of <30 Nov 93>, from Michael Spears to Ed Duchek:
at the current time I am completely out of em!  But expect a few more to
trickle in early next week.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 8036
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 12/03/93  4:39p
Subj: Women On Wheels                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Michael,

Got a check from you today for $13.00... but am unsure what it is for.  I would
guess its for the sound effects library, but I have about 5 other software
items for sale at that price.  please get back to me if thats the correct item,
I will hold the check until I know what its for.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: STEWART GAY                            Number: 8037
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93  8:49p
Subj: Moster Media 93 #2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for anybody that has RBBS style FMS dir listing in reverse
order sort with extended discription format. For the Moster Media 93
number 2, or a program that will sort dir's that came with the CD with
extended discriptions.
Thanks Stewart Gay

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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 8038
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93  9:00p
Subj: 'R' Rated Sampler                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

********************** Exotic Visions Sample Disk ********************

A collection of 10 disk with 100 jpeg pictures from our upcoming product
that will be available on CD-ROM soon. 
  
Send a check or money order for $10.00 to the following address.  


                       Digital Broadcast Video
                        3318 South 7th Street
                          Abilene, TX 79605
                            (915)673-1911

COD orders also accepted.  When ordering you *MUST* state that you are
over 18 or 21 years of age depending on the laws of your state.
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From: ALAN ORNDORFF                          Number: 8039
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/03/93  7:39p
Subj: Os/2 2.1                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SR>os/2 2.1 cdrom    $50

SR>Scott Raley

Is this an offer to purchase?

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From: MIKE FITZSIMONDS                       Number: 8040
  To: DANIEL PARDUE                            Date: 12/04/93 12:21p
Subj: Sb and drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks alot for the info it could come in very handy when
the time comes to order the CD ROM.

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 8041
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/04/93 12:23p
Subj: cd rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Scott!

Wednesday December 01 1993, Scott Raley writes to Pat Rickerson:

 SR> I will offer you $35 a piece for those hitachi cdrom drives that
 SR> need repair plus pay shipping.

 SR> Please let me know.

 SR> Thanks
 SR> Scott Raley

Will do that, but don't know yet how many I have, how many do you want? I may
have up to 5 of these. Thanks
Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 8042
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/04/93 12:25p
Subj: CD-ROM Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Scott!

Wednesday December 01 1993, Scott Raley writes to Pat Rickerson:

 SR> I am interested in these for my bbs, but all I can offer right now
 SR> is a trade for WordPerfect 5.2 for Windows and pay for shipping.
 SR> Wanna trade?

Have it already but thanks for the offer.
Pat

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From: JOHN CARROLL                           Number: 8043
  To: CLIFF FIVEASH                            Date: 12/02/93  7:15a
Subj: caddies for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CF--> JC>        For Sale:  Quan. 10 CD-ROM caddies.  $3 each for Phillips and
CF--> Sony
CF--> JC>                   CD-ROM Players.
CF--> JC>                   Call Florida 407-569-9411 or reply this echo.
CF--> JC>                   Thanks!   John Carroll
CF--> JC> * Origin: Treasure Coast,Vero Bch.Fl.407-569-0569 RA-PRO 14.4
CF--> (1:374/569)

CF--> John, are these caddies new or used? If used, what
CF--> condition are they
CF--> in? I will want them if they are in like new condition.
CF--> Thanks.

        These caddies are like new, used 1 time each to load and unload a cd
in a Phillips CD Drive. I think I have them all sold, but if not will get back
in touch with you in about a week. Thanks for the inquiry!

        ...John

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From: MIKE FITZSIMONDS                       Number: 8044
  To: BILL HALL                                Date: 12/03/93  9:24a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi 2x Spin                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the info, I was looking into buying one of these drives.

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From: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN                     Number: 8045
  To: WC HILL                                  Date: 12/03/93  3:30a
Subj: Re: cd storage boxes wanted             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Reply to msg originally in CD Rom For Sale
 -=> Quoting Wc Hill to All <=-

 WH> Occasionally I'll get a CD that comes in a cardboard wrapper/cover.
 WH> What I'd like to find is a plastic storage box/device that I can store
 WH> these disks in, individually. Is there anything out there that other
 WH> users have found that works or is available commercially?

Hi, Bill. If I understand right, you are looking for what is known as
"Jewel Boxes". These are the same kind of plastic box that most audio
CD's and most CD-ROM's come in. I found them in a music store that sells
music CD's and also at Radio Shack. The price at both places was the
same. About $1.50 per box. Also, Some of the CD-ROM dealers on here have
them advertised as low as $1 but of course there is probably a shipping
charge added on.

... Good luck!                   Mac in Tampa, FL  
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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8046
  To: CLINT MORTON                             Date: 11/30/93 10:33p
Subj: Cd Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific Clint Morton postulated to All about Cd Rom...

 CM> I'm looking for a used but not abused, rom drive. (internal)  Have
 CM> cash  and some hardware for trade or sale.

        What kind of hardware are you trading? I'm looking for a 6+
        bay tower case and a simple VGA monitor.

        I have a CD I could trade <deal pending>.

                                                Charlie



... Children: Pure love contained in soft packages.  
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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8047
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/30/93 10:38p
Subj: CD/Sound card/Speakers                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>                       ```
> Leap Enterprises     (o o)   P.O. Box 328 Cerro Gordo, NC 28430-0328
>-----------------oOO--(_)--OOo-----------------------------------------
> Charlie Jarman             (910)654-4658 <voice> (910)654-5593 <data>


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        Five Year Manufacvturer Warranty

Mitsumi LU-005 internal CD-ROM
        (350ms Access/150kb Xfer/32k Buffer
         Photo CD compat., Multisession)
        MPC compatible
        One Year Manufacturer Warranty

Also included:
	Windows Master CD and Game Master CD included (2500+ programs)

        Price: $350.00 (total package and FREE speakers)

                                        Charlie

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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8048
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/30/93 10:44p
Subj: CD offerings                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>                       ```
> Leap Enterprises     (o o)   P.O. Box 328 Cerro Gordo, NC 28430-0328
>-----------------oOO--(_)--OOo-----------------------------------------
> Charlie Jarman             (910)654-4658 <voice> (910)654-5593 <data>

  We have software packages in several categories. Only a few are
  included here. Please reply or call for prices on your software/CD
  needs.

                        CD-ROM
                     ------------
ADA Programming.....$22        Aminet Amiga............$16
Animals MPC.........$22        Beauty & the Beast......$17
CICA MS Windows.....$15        C Users Group Library...$25
Dr. Games...........$16        Dr. Music...............$16
Dr. Shareware.......$16        Dr. Windows.............$16
Family Doctor.......$24        Fontmaster II...........$20
Garbo MS-DOS/MAC....$15        GIGA Games..............$23
Hobbes OS/2.........$15        Info-Mac................$29
La Coleccion........$22        Libris Britannia........$36
Linux...............$27        NOVA for NeXTs..........$22
Project Gutenberg...$20        QRZ! HAM Radio..........$15
Shareware '93.......$24        Shareware Gold II Vol 2.$29
Simtel 20 MS-DOS....$16        So Much Shareware III...$24
Source Code.........$20        Sprite OS...............$16
WIN Shareware Gold2.$28        X11/GNU.................$23

NEW!
Computer Reference Library...........$15
Computer Home & Office Legal Guide...$16
Clipart Warehouse....................$15
Gardening............................$14

* Games and over 350 CD titles also available *
       More MAC titles also available

  Try this (from IBM) for those folks wanting to convert
  to OS/2 v2.1 from Windows 3.1:

OS/2 for Windows (CD-ROM)................$55.00

  Other software solutions are available. If you don't see what you
  want on this list, let me know what you need and I'll get it for you.

  Leap Enterprises carries a full range of hardware and MacIntosh
  supplies, too.
                        Charlie


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From: BILL JONES                             Number: 8049
  To: ADAM GILBERT                             Date: 12/03/93  3:08p
Subj: Re: FOR SALE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Both players are internal and have controllers and all software that
 came with them including cables.
 Also original boxes.

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From: BILL JONES                             Number: 8050
  To: JIDESH VEERAMACHANENI                    Date: 12/03/93  3:08p
Subj: Re: FOR SALE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 That one is 350ms and does have the controller since it's a new drive.

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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 8051
  To: CASEY ROMANSKI                           Date: 11/29/93  9:36a
Subj: Re: Cds sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks Casey, everything is sold for now...

Happy Holidays To All...

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 8052
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 12/03/93  9:03a
Subj: Re: Cd Price List                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Don Hooker <12-01-93 00:00> Richard Carter wrote:

RC>> Sorry, we are still looking for a reliable supplier of Caddies, will
RC>> let you know as soon as we find one "AT A GREAT PRICE" .

Call Tradeshows at 317-651-9848--They supply alot of the players.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 8053
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 12/03/93  9:34a
Subj: Re: Women On Wheels                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <11-30-93 18:40> Michael Harris wrote:

MH>> I have one question about the copyright notices, how does this work,
MH>> you mentioned something about not allowing them to be uploaded to
MH>> other bbs can you give more details I would like to share your reply
MH>> with the sysops in my area so they know the whole scoop please.

As long as a sysop owns BB V II, they *ARE* authorized to distribute any of the
images on the disc via their BBS--Each image states "For Private Use Only"
which should warn the user not to take the image and upload it freely to other
BBS's who do not possess the BB II CD--So in essence, if a sysop distributes
any of our images from any of our disc's, and does not own a copy, its in
violation of the copyright. We know it's going to happen from time to time, and
we are not out for any juglar's when it does.

Got the Women on Wheels slides--Man O' Man, phew ! Can't wait for Bob Jackson
to review this title--the girls redefine the word sexy and gorgeous-
Don't take my word for it....this one will light up B.J. like a Christmas tree
:)--and *YES* this disc can go on the BBS as well.

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 8054
  To: RICK BAUER                               Date: 12/03/93  9:38a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes vol II                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to ALL <12-01-93 02:15> rick bauer wrote:

rb>> The overall quality is superb. I also have been looking for a
rb>> good "R" rated disk and this fit the bill. I look forward to the
rb>> new disks that they have coming up in 1994.

What a nice surprise to have come across this message ! Just wanted to add that
by official ratings, this disc contains R-XX, which is full nudity plus....your
an angel !

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 8055
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 12/03/93  9:45a
Subj: Blaine Richard                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Blaine Richard <11-30-93 05:04> Randy Neuner wrote:

RN>> I am pretty much pissed at the way you have fooled me so far.  You
RN>> are
RN>> the only person to do such a thing.  If I don't get a reply soon,
RN>> well.... Some day I will be back in Fl and Apopka is on the map.

Randy, I suspect they read this echo faithfully, for one reason or the other.
Perhaps, you could solicit the assistance of his associate, Mr. Van Gelder to
help you resolve this matter quickly--He strikes me as a gentleman that can get
things done. I don't have the number in front of me, but look on the back of
the Southern Beauties disc, and if my memory serves me, they list a couple of
phone numbers. I'm sure this can be resolved favorably.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: PATRICK SHEN                           Number: 8056
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/02/93  6:00p
Subj: Cd-rom for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have following CD-ROMs for sale.  All CD-ROMs are in New Condition. Please
add $3 for UPS or Priority Mail shipping.

7th Guest by Virgin Games (2 CD set).  Smooth full motion video.  Best CD ever
made.                                    --------------  $40.00

Software Toolworks CD Game Pack II.  10 games on one CD.  Each has its own
documents.                             --------------------  $22.00

LucasArts Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe.  Very good World War II Air Combat
Simulation game.  I'll include a mission/utilities disk as a free bonus.       
                              -------------------  $20.00

Defender of the Crown - A tale of jousting heroes and damsels in distess by
Cinemaware.  A Robin Hood game.  Requires a Hitachi CD-ROM drive with audio
output.                                ------------------  $17.00

Deathstar Arcade Battles.  The most exciting arcade action and other games of
all time.                           ------------------  $15.00

SelectWare System.  The Ultimate Software Demo System.   ------   $9.00

Amateur Models Adult CD.                       ----------------  $33.00

If you are interested, please reply here to contact me at E-mail address below.

Patrick Shen
CompuServe: 72072,3612
Internet: pshen@simenv.com

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From: WILLIAM WRIGHT                         Number: 8057
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 12/03/93  9:29p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RL>But you can ALWAYS get your disc back even if the drive craps on
RL>you. <g>.

Uhh was that a joke? I'm assuming it was since it has a G by it.


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From: PAT DELIN                              Number: 8058
  To: JIDESH VEERAMACHANENI                    Date: 12/02/93  3:55p
Subj: Re: Magnavox CDD-461                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

550 ms... Comes with everything you need... Offer.. Goes for 200 In Comp
Shopper...

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From: PAT DELIN                              Number: 8059
  To: JIDESH VEERAMACHANENI                    Date: 12/02/93  3:56p
Subj: Re: Cd Rom for sale                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

500 - 550ms... Cool.. Looking to get around 100 out of it.. Comes with
controller.. no cables though..

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From: PAT DELIN                              Number: 8060
  To: ADAM GILBERT                             Date: 12/02/93  3:56p
Subj: Re: Magnavox CDD-461                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Comes with controller.. a cable.. and WIZPAK-6.. Cool huh? Well, tell me what
you are willing to offer.. Later.. And thanks

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From: JEAN-LOUIS BONTRONT                    Number: 8061
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93  4:21p
Subj: Education Master CD                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I've heard of a CD called Education Master that contains nothing but
educational shareware.  I would _love_ to get my hands on this CD.  Will
suppliers please quote a price and shipping + handling to Canada, or
send a catalogue via file attach or the address below.  Any info is
appreciated:

The Staff Room BBS, 1:246/12
12357 St-Denis
Tecumseh, ON, N8N 1L1
Canada

JLB

... #1 Hydro  Song:  Hertz so Good...
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From: JERRY JOHNSON                          Number: 8062
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93 10:14a
Subj: Adult cd for trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a copy of Animated Fantasies adult cd for trade.  It is all .gl and .fli
files.   I am looking for Busty Babes (any version) asian ladies, storm(1,2,3)
fao, or whatever else you might have to offer. Respond here.  Thanks.

                Jerry


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From: JERRY JOHNSON                          Number: 8063
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93 10:18a
Subj: Software toolworks ency                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have an unopened copy of Software Toolworks Multimedia Encylopedia for trade.
 It came with a Soundblaster Pro but I already have it.  Comes with all docs
and registration cards.
        Would like to trade for educational discs - Just Grandma and Me,
Arther's teacher Trouble, or anything else you might want to offer. Please
respond here with a phone # if Possible.

        Thanks,
        Jerry


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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 8064
  To: WC HILL                                  Date: 12/02/93  1:37p
Subj: Re: cd storage boxes wanted             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Radio Shack has jewel cases for CD's...I've purchased several from them. You
probably can find a better price on them in this Echo though!

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From: ERIC HO                                Number: 8065
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93 11:23p
Subj: DR.CD-ROM upgrade                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                **********************************
                *  NEWS  NEWS  NEWS  NEWS  NEWS  *
                **********************************

   If you have purchased Dr. Windows Vol. I or Dr. Shareware Vol. I CD-ROM,
   you can get upgrade from Accurate Research, Inc.

   ********************************************************************
   *  New Dr. Windows - Gennuine  :  Just released on Nov. 20, 1993.  *
   *  New Dr. Shareware - Gold    :  Also on Nov. 21, 1993.           *
   ********************************************************************


   How to get upgrade version ?

   (We can recycle your old DR. CD-ROMs.)


   1. Mail in your orginal (old) Dr. Windows Vol. I or Dr. Shareware
      Vol. I CD-ROM along with US$10 for shipping and handling charge.

   2. If you send it back with money order or cashier's check, new version
      of DR. CD-ROM will be shipped same day by UPS.

   3. Allow 15 business days for shipping when paying by personal check.

   4. Make check or money order payable to ACCURATE RESEARCH, INC.
      No cash please.

   5. If you don't have DR.CD-ROM products, please encourage your local
      retail stores to carry the new version of DR.CD-ROMs from ARI.

   6. For end users only.

   7. Upgrade offer good thru Dec. 31, 1993.

   8. Call for more information.


            ACCURATE RESEARCH, INC.        (Home of DR. CD-ROM)
            1500 Wyatt Drive, #10
            Santa Clara, CA 95054
            Tel:408-748-9988
            Fax:408-748-9989
            BBS:408-453-6250 V32bis 14400
            FidoNet 1:143/88

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From: DANNY TSENG                            Number: 8066
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/04/93  1:40a
Subj: Microsoft Bookshelf                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Hello ALL!

    I'm looking for the MicroSoft BookShelf CD.

-Danny : YXT0376@vaxa.isc.rit.edu

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From: MATT HENDRIX                           Number: 8067
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/04/93 12:44a
Subj: cdroms                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Ok, does anyone want to trade an adult cd-rom for the Space Quest IV cd
rom?  This still sells for around 50 bux new, and I want to have an adult
section on my bbs...


        Also, I am still looking for the Forbidden Subjects....

Matt Hendrix



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From: CHUCK ADAMS                            Number: 8068
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 12/03/93  8:59a
Subj: sound effects library                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like to know more about this CD, write to me at:
C.Adams POB 102 Lakeshore,Ms.39558-0102 or call me at (601)466-4952


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From: CHUCK ADAMS                            Number: 8069
  To: MIKE STEFFEN                             Date: 12/03/93  9:18a
Subj: Educational CD's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Send catalog to
Chuck Adams
P.O.Box 102
Lakeshore,Ms. 39558-0102


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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 8070
  To: DOUG HUMMEL                              Date: 12/04/93  3:35a
Subj: Cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I NEED A BROKEN CDR-3500 DRIVE SO I CAN FIX MY SOUND SECTION OF THE
 > DRIVE. I WOULD BE WILL TO TRADE DRIVE FOR ONE WITH THE SOUND WORKING
 > PLUS A SMALL DIFFERENCE IN CASH. PLEASE LET KNOW, I HAVE SEVERAL KIDS
 > CHOPPING AT THE BIT TO HEAR THE SOUND. I AM ALSO GOING TO USE IT FOR
 > TEACHING MY YOUNGEST KID WHO ALSO IS HANDCAPED. SEND REPLIES TO DOUG
 > HUMMEL AT 6602 30TH TERRACE, GAINESVILLE, FL. HOME PHONE IS 372-4610
 > HOPE TO HEAR FROM SOMEONE SOON

    Geez, the caps imply screaming & make it hard to read at 3:15am:)  We have
several Hitachi model 3500 drives that are in the process of being refurbished.
 Some I already know are only good for parts, if that is what you are looking
for. We also have facilities to repair model 3500 drives & can probably work
something out, without stealing your wallet:)  In any regard, we do have 3500
model drives, & plently of them.  Let me know if you want your's repaired or if
you want a drive for parts that you might work on yourself?


    Regards,
    Joe Rinehart
    config.sys, Inc.
    P.O. Box 27
    Kent, Ohio 44240-0001
    Fido: 1:157/479
    data/fax: 216.296.4446
    voice: 216.296.9831

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 8071
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/04/93  5:03a
Subj: *Cream of the Crop BUNDLE*              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CREAM OF THE CROP BUNDLE of versions 1 & 2<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>We are offering The Cream of the Crop bundle for only $40.00 and will
match any advertised price w/shipping on single versions:-)  We are offering
a 30 day 100% money back guarantee and have BBS READY setups for almost any
BBS.  To order contact: Joe Rinehart, P.O.Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240-0001,
>voice:216.296.9831 We also DO NOT markup shipping cost unlike most dealers.
>$2.90 Priorty Mail Both versions are on-line for review at the Blue Parrot
CD-ROM SUPPORT BBS. Very low duplication rate to night owl or pier disc which
means additional files & virus insurance... IN STOCK READY FOR SHIPPING!  10%
SYSOP DISCOUNT!  THIS BUNDLE IS GREAT & has not been copied by others!

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From: GREG JACKSON                           Number: 8072
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/04/93  3:08p
Subj: Catalogs                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        CD-Rom ditributers please send your Free catalogs to:
   
    Greg Jackson  14027 Hackamore Dr.  Matthews N.C. 28105
Thanks alot, I've got alot of christmas presents to buy.

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From: MATT SCHULTZ                           Number: 8073
  To: SCOTT TRACZYK                            Date: 12/04/93  4:28p
Subj: Re: CD caddies                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ST-->    Do you have some of those Cd caddies left?

JC> Scott, at this time I think they are all sold, unless someone
JC> bails out one me,

Hi Scott,

I got 8 caddies from John and they aren't the right style for my
CD player.  If John has sold all of his I will offer mine for the
same price.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 8074
  To: SEAN CREIGH                              Date: 12/04/93  8:01a
Subj: ADULT CD'S                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you're interested in a copy of PGG1, contact Ismail Arslangiray at
Groupware (he's active in this echo). I'm sure he can help you.

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From: STEVE KRAISLER                         Number: 8075
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/04/93 10:31a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I've finished 7th Guest and am willing to part with it for $30 bucks
plus shipping.  It comes with two manuels and for 3 bucks more I'll
throw in a disk with the solve and hints.
___
 X SLMR 2.1a X Is it OK to yell 'Movie' in a crowded firehouse?

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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 8076
  To: WC HILL                                  Date: 12/04/93  5:38p
Subj: Found Source CD Storage Boxes           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 WH> Occasionally I'll get a CD that comes in a cardboard wrapper/cover.
 WH> What I'd like to find is a plastic storage box/device that I can
 WH> store these disks in, individually. Is there anything out there that
 WH> other users have found that works or is available commercially?

        Sure, go to your nearest Wal-Mart, check out the CD Audio
        section.  There you will find Jewel Cases (hard plastic)
        storage cases for a buck each.  BTW, I do not work for W-M.


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From: CHRIS JOHNSON                          Number: 8077
  To: MARCIAL MURENO                           Date: 12/01/93 10:43p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send a copy to:

        Chris Johnson
        1302 Concord Ave
        Southlake Texas
        76092-9499

        OR

                Netmail me a copy to:

                Chris Johnson
                1:130/801.2


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From: TRENT SHERMAN                          Number: 8078
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/04/93  2:11p
Subj: CD-ROM Catalogs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To any/all that are reading this msg. 

Well, just got a Pier 3 Shareware disk from UNI-ROM for $38. Plus 5 for
shipping and and extra 5 for COD..So, total $48.00.  Are there better deals out
there?  Anyways... 

I would still like to get a catalog of SHAREWARE (for BBSs) CD-ROM Titles from
everyone (why not, right?..let's compare)..grin.  I have a month to go till I
pay my last payment on my CDROM Drive, so this disk is collecting dust
(so-to-speak) till then (Drive on Lay-Away).   

Well, that's it, hope to see mail from you all soon! 

Trent Sherman
P.O.Box 4211
Gainesville, FLorida  32613-4211
TransCom ][ BBS @ (904) 377-8574 

Thanks Again! 

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From: IAN SINGER                             Number: 8079
  To: GEOFF HOWARD                             Date: 12/03/93  5:39p
Subj: Night Owl's 10                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GH>Hi Michael,excuse me for butting in,I have run scan108 on Night
GH>Owl10,it comes up clean,could you or anyone else tell me the names of
GH>the Dir and files with a virus


     SF2_UP.ZIP and SPORT21C.ZIP from Night Owls 10 and
     64BLAZE.ZIP from SoftwareVault2.

The 64BLAZE that is on Night Owls 9 is clean, but I have done a blanket
disable downloads, so if you need it advise, and I will repost under
another name.
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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 8080
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/04/93  6:40p
Subj: Holiday Specials on Night               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*@SUBJECT:Holiday Specials on Night Owl CDs!!                         N
             *** Holiday Season Specials from TCM!! ***

Night Owl v10 (Yes, the recut...).............................. $29
Night Owl v9................................................... $29
Night Owl v8................................................... $29
Night Owl Graphics............................................. $29

Any 2 Night Owl disks above.................................... $49
Any 3 Night Owl disks above.................................... $69
All 4 Night Owl disks.......................................... $89

BUY 1 OR MORE NIGHT OWL DISKS FROM TCM, AND GET AN EXTRA SPECIAL DEAL
ON THE NEW "CD-ROM OF CD-ROM CD".

The CD-ROM of CD-ROM (CoC) disk is a Windows 3.1 multimedia directory of
over 4,000 CD-ROM titles, nearly 5,000 companies (with contact information),
nearly 2,000 industry "movers and shakers", and 600 critical, professional
reviews of CD-ROM titles.  The disk also includes many SVGA color photos of
the actual CD box for many of the CD-ROM titles.  Plus!, a full copy of
PC KARAOKE Christmas software (with three songs) is included.

The CD-ROM of CD-ROMs has a proprietary, high-performance data base and
a powerful search facility to help you locate information on any CD you
may be looking for.  Search criteria includes Title, Description, Price,
Platform (IBM, Mac, etc.), Category, Publisher, Date, and Reviews.  It
provides full GUI and mouse support under Windows 3.1.  CAUTION:  This
CD will cause you to go out and spend more money on CD-ROM disks!!

CD-ROM of CD-ROM is a $29 retail value.  You can now get this CD for your
collection at a great savings when you purchase a Night Owl disk from TCM.

   CD-ROM of CD-ROM when purchased with 1 Night Owl CD......... $10
   CD-ROM of CD-ROM when purchased with 2 Night Owl CDs........ $ 8
   CD-ROM of CD-ROM when purchased with 3 Night Owl CDs........ $ 5
   CD-ROM of CD-ROM when purchased with 4 Night Owl CDs........ FREE !!!

TCM accepts check, money order, Visa and MasterCard.  We will also ship
COD upon request.  Shipping (USPS 2nd day priority) is $3 on all orders.
COD is $4 additional.  Give us a call (leave a message if we aren't around),
or you can call TCM BBS and use our online ORDER Door for Visa/MC purchases.
For COD, call voice, leave a message here, or call the BBS and leave a
Comment to the Sysop.  You can also Fax us your Visa/MC or COD orders.

TCM is an authorized Night Owl distributor, and is the Official Night Owl
Support BBS.  If you want to be placed on our mailing list, leave a message
with your address and we will send you a copy of our next TCM Newsletter.

TCM Computing                                        (703) 439-8032
Rt. 2 Box 130                                        (703) 439-8237 Fax
Midland, Va. 22728                                   (703) 439-3060 BBS
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From: JARED STEIN                            Number: 8081
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/04/93 11:27a
Subj: SONY DUEL CDROM DRIVE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HAVE SONY DUEL CDROM DRIVE FOR SALE
$375 OR TRADE FOR BIG HARD DRIVE
CALL JARED 804-588-8324

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From: JARED STEIN                            Number: 8082
  To: SEAN WARD                                Date: 12/04/93 11:34a
Subj: Computer Hardware                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SW>Looking for a multi-media computer. Must be at least a 486DX\33 with a 245 m
SW>hard drive. Willing to pay! If interested in selling one, E-MAIL Sean Ward a
SW>The Twisted Platypus 1:109/626!
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SW> * Origin: The Twisted Platypus, Arlington, Va, 703-892-9010 (1:109/626)

have sony duel cd-rom for sale
call 588-8324
sorry sold both single cd roms yesterday

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From: LEO MULVIHILL                          Number: 8083
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/02/93 12:11a
Subj: CD's for Sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following CD's for sale


Microsoft Works.for Windows...

Microsoft Bookshelf for Windows 1992 edition

Compton's Multimedia Encyclopedia


Make offer


wildcelt@delphi.com
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From: LEO MULVIHILL                          Number: 8084
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 12/02/93 12:22a
Subj: Popular Titles                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>             *********   Computer Works CD-Rom Sales!   *********
JL>                                Popular Titles

JL>Precision Mapping.........$76     The Business Master..............$19
JL>Grolier MPC Encyclopedia..$44     American Business Phonebook......$16
JL>US & World Atlas..........$22     Microsoft Works..................$39
JL>Reference Library.........$19     Prophone Business 1993...........$26
JL>The Animals MPC...........$24     Desktop Publishers Dream Disc....$37
JL>Mayo Clinic...............$26     Publishers Paradise..............$32
JL>The Family Doctor.........$24     Encyclopedia of Clipart..........$24
JL>Firearms Reference 1993...$29     GIFs Galore......................$16
JL>US History PC/MAC.........$27     MacMillan Dict. for Children.....$29
JL>Audubon's Mammals.........$21     Kodak Photo CD for Windows.......$19
JL>Holy Bible................$22     Tempra Access Photo CD Imaging...$18

JL>Computer Works                  For a file containing all descriptions
JL>CD-Rom Sales!                   download CATALOG.ZIP from our BBS.
JL>(205) 793-4481 Voice
JL>(205) 671-0092 BBS              Online Orders, File Lists, Catalogs
JL>--- FreeMail 1.09
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From: LEO MULVIHILL                          Number: 8085
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 12/02/93 12:27a
Subj: Popular Titles                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>The Animals MPC...........$24    MacMillan Dict. for Children.....$29
 Tempra Access Photo CD Imaging...$18


Jim,

I will take Animals and the Mac Millian Dict for children if you pay the
shipping.
Please explain the Tempra CD

If you accept here is my MC # 5436-6609-0013-1792 exp 1/94

My voice # is 215-453-8338 before 2 eastern.

Leo
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From: NINO FAGAN                             Number: 8086
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 12/03/93  4:37p
Subj: hobbes 10/93??                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Dave Reed wrote  
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
:>>Hello Boris!
:>>>Monday November 29 1993 02:31, Boris Osadciw wrote to Dave Perkovich:
:>
:>> Too bad you haven't seen our OS/2Box.  Seeing as it is truly
:>> BBS ready and has a
:>
:>> Sorry to say Dave, but we have looked at it and that's why we're not
:>> promoting your product!
:>
:>That's funny!  I heard the reason you were'nt support the OS/2 Box is
:>Dave for not because you refuse to buy it from Mike Shannon, and you
:>fact, that's exactly want to screw making you the "exclusive
:>distributor."  As a matter of what you said to ******, whom I talked
:> to just the other day.
:>Later,
:>Dave 
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

Dave, I got three copies of this stuff.  It's costing me money to get
this echo.  How about taking this kind of crap private and you and
Boris can duke it out without costing all the downloaders of this echo
coins.

Thanks.

Regards, 
Nino
... And what exactly is a dream? And what exactly is a joke?
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From: ANDREW STUDER                          Number: 8087
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 12/04/93  8:46a
Subj: **Catalog offer***                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send your cdlist to FidoNet 1:203/1632.0 - thanks.

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From: CRAIG BAKER                            Number: 8088
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 12/04/93 12:18p
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 > We have several Hitachi model 3500 drives that are in the 
 > process of being refurbished.  Some I already know are only good for 
 > parts, if that is what you are looking for. We also have facilities 
 > to repair model 3500 drives & can probably work something out, 
 > without stealing your wallet:)  In any regard, we do have 3500 model 
 > drives, & plently of them.  Let me know if you want your's repaired 
 > or if you want a drive for parts that you might work on yourself?
 
What is the cost for a working (refurbished) 3500 drive?
 
What are your repair and/or refurbishing charges? Who does the work? Is the
refurbishing process more than just a clean and lube?
 
I'm interested..
 
Craig



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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 8089
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 11/26/93  6:33p
Subj: Mitsumi 2x spin                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You recently commented to Jeff Claggett, in response to his:

>The guy writing the driver just plane and simple did not have
>one of these drives available to use for developement.

BF>The odds are good that a driver that supports the LU005 will work
BF>with the LU002, just SLOWER....

It might be well to recall that the 002 had an 8-bit card, and the 005 comes
with a 16-bit.  My 005 would NOT work on the 8-bit card, but both of them work
as well as can be expected on the 16-bit card.  They remain very much different
drives, with different specs.  I didn't try the new driver with the old card
AND old drive.

An aside to "others:"
My only reason for the new drive was for the OS/2 capability; the 002 is for
sale to the highest realistic bid.  Net mail me in care of the origin bbs.     
          ^^^^^^^^^  I'll consider bids over $US100.

New subject while I have your attention:  will we be seeing you at the
Mansfield, OH Hamfest?  Glad we got a chance to eyeball at Southfield.

73 de K8YUW

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

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From: MICHAEL LIM                            Number: 8090
  To: TIM MORGAN                               Date: 12/04/93 12:51a
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       Hey I'd like a full listing!  But, why are they so cheap!?  I bought
King's Quest VI CD for about thirty dollars (tax included).  And this was the
upgrade!  Thanks.





                                                            Michael Lim

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From: DOUG HUNKELE                           Number: 8091
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/04/93  8:43p
Subj: Night Owl 10 and TAXSOR_F.ZIP           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

After reading a few post reguarding Night Owl 10 and the file TAXSOR_F.ZIP in
the directory 060a here is the real story........

The file.diz with the zipped file does say that VERSION (3) is not to be
distributed via a bbs...BUT.... once you unzip the file you will find that the
version on the disc is ver 1.F

I know Night Owl 10 is taking some flaming hits right now, but this one is
false....

Yes, I have NO 10 online,... Yes, the two virus files have been removed, there
are still 1000's of files available for my users....gee just what i purchased
it for.....

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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 8092
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/01/93  2:27a
Subj: Cd bb for trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have BB 3 vol.1 I would like to trade for another adult CD, preferably T & A
2 the Maxx, or Southern Beauties.  Willing ot consider all trades. Greg

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From: RUSTY ATKINS                           Number: 8093
  To: PAUL T.NELSON                            Date: 12/04/93 12:59p
Subj: OS/2 2.1 CD-ROM For Sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Paul T.Nelson to Rusty Atkins dated 12-01-93 ***
> OS/2 for Windows will be available in more than 13 languages, and
> will be generally available on Nov. 10, 1993.  A 90-day promotional
> offering of $39 USD for CD-ROM and $49 USD for diskettes is available
> by calling 1-800-3IBM-OS2.  Additional licenses can be purchased for
> $29 USD. The product will also be available from IBM PC Dealers,
> IBM Software Dealers, IBM Remarketers, IBM Resellers and IBM Direct.
> 

Exactly what is this OS/2 for windozes anyway? Is IBM giving-up already?
Running an operating system emulator under an operating environment (that the
s/w company likes to call an operating SYSTEM) under DOS does not seem very
beneficial. I heard nothing of this software in the magazines. I was just
walking through a local retail store and saw it.... very puzzling.

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From: IAN SINGER                             Number: 8094
  To: MIKE BILOW                               Date: 12/04/93  4:51p
Subj: Novell Netware 3.xx & CDR               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RM> I have heard that Novell Netware 3.xx directly supports CDROM
 RM> drives.  Does anyone know if that includes the old Hitachi
 RM> CDR3500 drives?
 
You can use any cd drive on Novell, but not attached to the server.  Put
it on a workstation and map it to the network with mapassist or I
believe if its scsi it can be hooked to the server with SCSI Express
from Micros Design International in Florida
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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 8095
  To: MATT HENDRIX                             Date: 12/05/93  3:32p
Subj: cdroms                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->       Also, I am still looking for the Forbidden Subjects....

Hi, Matt:

We have had it sent to us for review.  Must say it is probably one of
the most macabre compilations I have ever seen!  In fact, we have
refused to sell it and returned our discs.  But, if you really want it,
it is available from the Profit Press.  Look for their ads in a variety
of PC mags.

It's up to you, but thought you might like to hear what a distributor's
point of view is (for what it's worth).  Sorry.

Hayden Bradshaw
HRB Computer Services
(905) 830-1615
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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 8096
  To: PAUL SCHIFFERLI                          Date: 12/05/93  3:56p
Subj: Censorship                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> The latest issue of PC Magazine informs all readers that they will no
-> longer accept adds of an ADULT nature with Graphics.  I note that the
-> Editor is a woman.  You would think that everyone would have learned
-> by now that censoring doesn't work.  They are targeting the CD-ROM
-> collections in particular.
-> To the all seeing person who reviews messages.  I am a casual user
-> and do not know if this is the proper place for the above, but the
-> CD-ROM tie in seemed logical to me.
-> To all, why not let PC Mag know how you feel about the issue.

We at HRB Computer Services applaud PC Mag's actions!  We sell over 700
titles of CDs in Canada -- not one is Adult/XXX oriented.  Comments from
some of our suppliers have been of surprise, generally.  However,
that has been our policy since our inception, and we certainly have no
regrets.  Our customers can come to us knowing that we care enough to
provide "family" oriented material.  Hey, if someone wants Adult stuff,
they can get it.  But not from us!  If you look at the attitude of a
number of agencies, not only magazine, but others -- not just religious,
there's a great movement opposed to the porn stuff. And why not? It's
time influential people stood up for those of us who resent the
migration of the porn industry into the home computer market, where our
youngsters can and do stumble onto this material.  But not only young
ones are affected by it though, are they.  Think about it.

Regards.

Hayden Bradshaw

BTW:  What's the fact that the publisher's a woman got to do with this
anyway??!!
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From: ROBERT WOLF                            Number: 8097
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/05/93  9:33a
Subj: Global War                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Am looking for willing participants for Global War.  Proceed to the (D)oors
Section from the Main Menu and choose Global War.
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 8098
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/05/93  3:26p
Subj: * CD-ROM's For Sale                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROMS for Sale

Q&A 4.0 from Symantec ..........................  $39
Tax-Prep 1993 ..................................  $15
CD-ROM Premier .................................  $14
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $15
Toolworks US Atlas and Automap .................  $22
Toolworks World Atlas ..........................  $22
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $59
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $ 9
PC Sig Library 9th edition .....................  $11
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $16
Sneek Peeks from Sierra ........................  $13
Corel Art Show 3 with large Book ...............  $24
Phoenix-CD Version 3.0 .........................  $12
Chessmaster 3000 ...............................  $24

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Registered Symantec Q&A Consultant


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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 8099
  To: LORI SMITH                               Date: 12/05/93  2:03a
Subj: Cc2 -File List?                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I am interested in obtaining the allfiles list for the Cream Of The
 > Crop 2 CD.  I would like to take a look at what files are on it,
 > before I make a decision to purchase it.  Does anyone know where
 > I might be able to FREQ this from?
    I'll try to send it to you. Should I fail it is requestable as cc2dirs.zip
fro 1:157/479

    Hope you find it worthy of your bbs:)
    Regards,
    Joe Rinehart
    config.sys, Inc.

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 8100
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/05/93 11:47a
Subj: Wing Commander Deluxe / Wanted          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

Looking for this CD, if you have it and want to sell it please reply, thanks
This Cd I think is called Wing Commander 2 Deluxe with Secret Missions.

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 8101
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/05/93 11:50a
Subj: Bible CD's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

Have a Minister here that is looking for any Cd's, do you have any he may be
interested in? If you do please reply, thanks.

Pat

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From: JEFF WEISS                             Number: 8102
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/30/93  7:20p
Subj: *Recordable CD-ROMs                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We now have the following writable CDs for sale.

CD-R Discs:
 
  Ricoh 74 min (660 MB) CD-R discs $19.75 each (any quantity)
 
CD-ROM Recorders:
       ---------   
  Philips CD-ROM RECORDER                              $5,495
    - Philips CDD521 Double Speed CD-ROM Recorder
    - Adaptec 1540c SCSI Controller
    - CD-GEN Premastering Software >now does Multi-Session<
     
  Ricoh CD-ROM RECORDER                                $3,895
    - Ricoh RS 9200CD Single Speed CD-ROM Recorder
    - SCSI Controller
    - CD Record Software 2.0

These recorders are ideal for archiving, and mass data storage.
The blank 650 meg CD-Rs are much cheaper than any other removable
media.  Also, the CD-ROM readers are much cheaper than any Bernoulli,
Syquest, or WORM drive.  They're even cheaper than SCSI tape drives.
     
If you want to transfer data to CD-ROM but don't want to purchase
a CD-ROM recorder at this time, we are pleased to offer you our
DATA CONVERSION SERVICES.  We will transfer your data to CD-ROM for you.
 
Call for a FREE writable CD-ROM primer.
 
           Eternal ARCHIVE Solutions, Inc.
                650 Cooke Street, #3
                    P.O. Box 4402
              Waterbury, CT 06704-0402
                 (203) 759-0574 voice
                 (203) 759-0553  fax

A $4.95 handling charge is added to all orders, no matter how large.
Only the actual shipping charges are billed to your order.
Connecticut residents add 6% sales tax.
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From: EXETER                                 Number: 8103
  To: DAVE WONG                                Date: 12/01/93 11:48p
Subj: Re: need help on Return to Zork         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Lighthouse: Just go in. Talk to the keeper for now.  He warns you not to go on
the road to the south.  Don't you will die.

To get to town(West shanbar): cut vines, then tie them to wood planks.  You 
now have a raft. Use it.

Town:

    Mayor: Read files
    School:Ring bell with knife, talk to teacher, <PASS COPY PROTECTION 
TEST>,get notebook
    Waif(under bridge): Give him the tickets that are in the cash register of 
the pawn shop.  He gives you a gift.
    Boos Miller: Get drink from him.
                   Pour drink in plant.
                   Toast.
                   Drink.

repeat this cycle 3 times.  Then ask for the keys. He gives you keys.
repeat this cycle 4 times.  Boos passes out, a trapdoor is revealed, and a 
flask becomes available.  Take flask, go outside and undo the chock on the 
water wheel.  go inside. go down trapdoor, user keys that boos gave you.

    Hardware store: Put mice inside box, otherwise you will die.
    
Mountain Pass: dig bonding plant out with your knife, then it won't die.
You need this at the cliffs of depression.  If you already cut it, then eat 
the dead plant.  A new one will appear.

--//--
After you go through Boos' trapdoor, many many possibilities are opened up.

Write back and tell me if these hints helped.  Then maybe you can help me.
Later--
-Rajat Sethi

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From: DON DAWSON                             Number: 8104
  To: EXETER                                   Date: 12/03/93 10:48p
Subj: Re: need help on Return to Zork         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On <Dec 01 @23:48> Exeter (1:141/1050) wrote to Dave Wong:

 E> Lighthouse: Just go in. Talk to the keeper for now.  He warns you not 
 E> to go on the road to the south.  Don't you will die.

This is the CDROM_SALE echo.  Are you in the right door?  Zork is two areas to
the left.  :-)

B-)  Don 

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From: TOM RUDDY                              Number: 8105
  To: GREER BRAXTLE                            Date: 12/04/93  1:22a
Subj: Sony                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    Did you get the new TEST Sony cdrom drives?

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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 8106
  To: DON DAWSON                               Date: 12/04/93 10:57p
Subj: This area                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Don -

Yours is one of only three messages I've received in this
(normally very busy) area this past week.

What kind of traffic are you getting in this echo?

There may be a broken link here somewhere.

                                              - Arnie :+}

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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 8107
  To: DON DAWSON                               Date: 12/04/93 11:24p
Subj: Ignore previous message                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Don -

(see thread in GDA-SYSOP)

                            - Arnie :+}


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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 8108
  To: PAUL SCHIFFERLI                          Date: 12/05/93 12:22p
Subj: Censorship                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

A life form named PAUL beamed aboard the Enterprise and told Picard:

PS>The latest issue of PC Magazine informs all readers that they will no
PS>longer accept adds of an ADULT nature with Graphics.  I note that the
PS>Editor is a woman.  You would think that everyone would have learned by
PS>now that censoring doesn't work.  They are targeting the CD-ROM
PS>collections in particular.

Censorship occurs when something is prohibited by law, not when a
publication, a PRIVATE enterprise, chooses not to carry certain ads. Most
magazines choose NOT to carry cigarette ads but that is NOT censorship, it
is their choice.

Just my thoughts.

Ron in Tampa
73163.124@compuserve.com
Prodigy: GHBF12B


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From: JOHN NORRIS                            Number: 8109
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/05/93  7:44p
Subj: Wing Commander Deluxe / Wanted          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Pat!

05 Dec 93 11:47, Pat Rickerson wrote to All:

 PR> Looking for this CD, if you have it and want to sell it please reply,
 PR> thanks This Cd I think is called Wing Commander 2 Deluxe with Secret
 PR> Missions.

 PR> Pat

Here we go, brother has it. WC2 w/missions and speech pak.  $28.00 firm, no
trades, sale only, used twice.  No offers accepted, Twenty Eight dollars, firm.
937-2070 after 5:30pm (1730) m-f, not later than 9:00pm (2100).  Cheapest price
I've seen new is $29.00 + $4.00 shipping. (Save $5.00).  All books, reg., and
box are like new with the plastic wrap removed.  Req. 386+ and fast CD drive.

Looks like some good deals on those new CD's you have.  I imagine you'll sell
them like hotcakes.  TTYL,

                                   John

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 8110
  To: JOHN NORRIS                              Date: 12/05/93  8:45p
Subj: Wing Commander Deluxe / Wanted          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello John!

Sunday December 05 1993, John Norris writes to Pat Rickerson:

 JN> Hello Pat!

 JN> 05 Dec 93 11:47, Pat Rickerson wrote to All:

 PR>> Looking for this CD, if you have it and want to sell it please reply,
 PR>> thanks This Cd I think is called Wing Commander 2 Deluxe with Secret
 PR>> Missions.

 PR>> Pat

 JN> Here we go, brother has it. WC2 w/missions and speech pak.  $28.00 firm,
 JN> no trades, sale only, used twice.  No offers accepted, Twenty Eight
 JN> dollars, firm. 937-2070 after 5:30pm (1730) m-f, not later than 9:00pm
 JN> (2100). Cheapest price I've seen new is $29.00 + $4.00 shipping. (Save
 JN> $5.00).  All books, reg., and box are like new with the plastic wrap
 JN> removed.  Req. 386+ and fast CD drive.

 JN> Looks like some good deals on those new CD's you have.  I imagine you'll
 JN> sell them like hotcakes.  TTYL,

Called the guy and to tell him you had it, but he wasn't home. Will talk to him
at work tommorow and let him know, thanks.
Pat

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8111
  To: J MERTZ                                  Date: 12/05/93 10:25a
Subj: Amatuer Models                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send me a check for $29 for Amatuer Models cd.

When I recieve it will send the cd.

Scott Raley
Box 76
Ridge, MD 20680-0076


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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 8112
  To: JAMES CLEVENGER                          Date: 12/04/93 12:14p
Subj: Technical Shareware                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JC> Can you give more information on your C/C++ offering?  Are
 JC> we talking about ANSI standard source code, or a bunch of
 JC> reference articles, or what?


 JC> --- Opus-CBCS 1.79.x
 JC>  * Origin: No. End Skyscraper (1:138/111.0)
It contains the latest editions of every scrap of C/C++ source code for PCs,
and utilities that has ever been made freely available. There are a number of
text references, but mostly just when they contain sample code. The december
edition has 1090 PD/Shareware files and a directory covering these and all
commerically distributed tools. Voice:+1(301)924-3594. EMS Professional
Shareware.
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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 8113
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 12/05/93  9:42p
Subj: Women On Wheels                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Michael,

 > Got a check from you today for $13.00... but am unsure what it is for.
 >  I would guess its for the sound effects library, but I have about 5
 > other software items for sale at that price.  please get back to me if
 > thats the correct item, I will hold the check until I know what its
 > for.


 > Ed Duchek
 > (210)650-8069

It is for the sound effects, I should have dropped ya a note, sorry. :-)

                                   Mike Harris

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 8114
  To: DENNIS WRIGHT                            Date: 12/05/93  9:44p
Subj: 'R' Rated Sampler                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > ********************** Exotic Visions Sample Disk ********************

 > A collection of 10 disk with 100 jpeg pictures from our upcoming
 > product
 > that will be available on CD-ROM soon.
 >
 > Send a check or money order for $10.00 to the following address.


 >                        Digital Broadcast Video
 >                         3318 South 7th Street
 >                           Abilene, TX 79605
 >                             (915)673-1911

Dennis,
Does the $10.00 include shipping and what kind of shipping would it be?

                                     Mike Harris

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 8115
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/05/93  9:46p
Subj: Women On Wheels                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > In a message to Lee Noga <11-30-93 18:40> Michael Harris wrote:

 > As long as a sysop owns BB V II, they *ARE* authorized to distribute
 > any of the images on the disc via their BBS--Each image states "For
 > Private Use Only" which should warn the user not to take the image and
 > upload it freely to other BBS's who do not possess the BB II CD--So in
 > essence, if a sysop distributes any of our images from any of our
 > disc's, and does not own a copy, its in violation of the copyright. We
 > know it's going to happen from time to time, and we are not out for
 > any juglar's when it does.

thanks for the reply.

 > Got the Women on Wheels slides--Man O' Man, phew ! Can't wait for Bob
 > Jackson to review this title--the girls redefine the word sexy and
 > gorgeous-
 > Don't take my word for it....this one will light up B.J. like a
 > Christmas tree :)--and *YES* this disc can go on the BBS as well.

 > Hugs,

 > -=*>Lee<*=-

Reveiew or not I want this disk, just from what have said. :-)

                                    Mike Harris

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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 8116
  To: IRA WILSKER                              Date: 12/05/93  6:27p
Subj: Magazine rack later than                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 11-24-93  22:48 Ira Wilsker said something about Magazine rack later than,
to which I reply: 

 IW> Sorry for a possibly repetitive message, but earlier this year I asked
 IW> the vendors in the conference if there was any newer version of 
 IW> MAGAZINE RACK than the 1990 edition I have had for almost 2 years.

To the best of my knowledge, there was only one edition released. :( I,
too, am interested in another edition and similar discs. I have heard
about a "USA Today" disc, but don't know much about what it contains.
Can anyone out there enlighten?


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From: LYN BORCHERT                           Number: 8117
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/05/93 11:01a
Subj: New File Descriptions for NG CD-ROM Door Program  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We have just finished compiling the file descriptions for Jem Disc under
THE NEXT GENERATION CD-ROM DOOR program.  Anyone using Jem Disc who would like
to use this new door program can save themselves a lot of work setting up Jem
Disc under this door by either File Requesting the Magic name CDMXJEM or by
calling (602)326-2999 and downloading it from the BBS Front End Program.

The NG CD-ROM Door seems to be a very nicely done CD-ROM door that supports up
to 57 CD-ROMs, with all the other features we have all come to expect in a
transfer door.  (i.e., Accross Areas File Tagging, Global Searching by Text or
Filename, Offline Requesting, and much too much to completely list here.)

For those of you who don't know what Jem Disc is, feel free to get more info
by File Requesting JEMDISC or calling the number above.  The BBS Front End
allows free downloading before logging into the BBS of all sorts of Jem Disc
Info and Utils. (including a complete ASCII file list of what's on the ROM)

-=[ Lyn ]=-

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From: MIKE FURST                             Number: 8118
  To: MATT HENDRIX                             Date: 12/05/93  7:55p
Subj: cdroms                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MH>        Ok, does anyone want to trade an adult cd-rom for the Space Quest IV
  >cd rom?  This still sells for around 50 bux new, and I want to have an adult
  >section on my bbs...


Matt,
 I have an Adult Disk called Giffy Gold if you're interested in a
trade.....
                                        -- Mike


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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 8119
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/05/93  5:15p
Subj: JPEG CD's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -SR> I have an adult cd, amatuer models that has 24 bit TIFF
 -SR> and GIF on
 -SR> it.

Where could I get a hold of this CD for a good price?

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From: RICK PEDLEY                            Number: 8120
  To: LEO MULVIHILL                            Date: 12/05/93  2:07p
Subj: Popular Titles                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LM> If you accept here is my MC # ****-****-****-**** exp */**

Leo, this isn't a good idea. The ripoff artist rents a postal box under your
name, orders a bunch of stuff by phone and has it sent to that PO Box address,
and within a week empties the box and dis- appears without a trace.

Rick

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From: ANISH ACHARYA                          Number: 8121
  To: CLIFF FIVEASH                            Date: 12/03/93  3:11p
Subj: Peir 3                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Cliff,

       Yes, I am interested in Cream Of The Crop II.  Please send me the
       appropriate information.  If you like I can netmail you with my
       own personal information.  Is that $30 American, or Canadian?
       Do you accept money orders.  Thanks!

Regards,

Anish Acharya 
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From: ANDY BRICK                             Number: 8122
  To: PATRICK SHEN                             Date: 12/05/93  6:23p
Subj: Cd-rom for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Will you take $30 for the &th guest cd-rom? If so leave a message on where to
send the money order to. Thanks

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From: ANDY BRICK                             Number: 8123
  To: JERRY JOHNSON                            Date: 12/05/93  6:25p
Subj: Software toolworks ency                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll trade Wing Commander 1/Ultima 6  and Wizpak-6 for it. Ican be reached at
904-478-8554 or leave a message in this echo. Thanks

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From: STEPHEN FENNER                         Number: 8124
  To: MIKE STEFFEN                             Date: 12/05/93  6:52p
Subj: price list                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi could you please send me your current price list with descriptions.
Thanks
                      Stephen Fenner
                      RR#2 Hubbards
                      Halifax Co. NS
                      B0J-1T0
                      Canada


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 8125
  To: CRAIG REILLY                             Date: 12/05/93 12:30a
Subj: Re: cd rom                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                    ////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
    BBS online      \\       MEG*A*BITE BBS (c)    //   MasterCard, VISA
      orders        \\          presents           //    Carte Blanche
  (517) 892-5042    //       CD-ROM READERS        \\     Diners Club
       14.4         //      **   by NEC   **       \\      accepted!
   leave message    \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/////////////////
                             (517)892-5518
                       Current price list effective
                            December 03, 1993
          "Don't deal with anyone else, call us today!!!!!"


******* This months special, 2 or more drives you will receive *******
  ********** a free 6 month subscription to MEG*A*BITE BBS! ********

  We have a great by on these NEC Model 36 external CD-ROM readers.
  These drives are closeouts, demos with a 30 day warranty. This unit is
  a SCSI drive (addressable), and comes with power cable, interface
  cable, and manuals. These drives are and EXCELLENT value at only...

                           $125.00 each!!!!
                   AND THEY ARE DAISY CHAINABLE !!!!!
  If you have been looking for a SCSI CD-ROM reader, call us today
  so you don't miss out! Call us voice ANYTIME at (517) 892-5518!


  Matt Bedtelyon
  MEG*A*BITE
  Voice   (517) 892-5518
  FAX     (517) 892-5965
  Fido 1:239/675
  Internet bedtelyo@cris.com


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From: EDDIE J. ANDRICH                       Number: 8126
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/04/93  8:22p
Subj: Re: Women On Wheels                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Lee,
-> Got the Women on Wheels slides--Man O' Man, phew ! Can't wait for Bob
-> Jackson to review this title--the girls redefine the word sexy and
-> gorgeous- Don't take my word for it....this one will light up B.J.
-> like a Christmas tree :)--and *YES* this disc can go on the BBS as
-> well.
   Put me down for a copy of the Women on Wheels!!! Also if you could,
send me a list of your product line. My FidoNet node is below and the
mailing address is:  E. J. A. Systems
                   270 El Dorado #202
                       Webster, Texas
                                77598

Thanks in advance and keep up the good work BB v II is GREAT!!!

Eddie..........
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From: DENNIS THRUSH                          Number: 8127
  To: DOUG THRUSH @ 924/1                      Date: 12/04/93  9:57p
Subj: Cd Drive                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Radio Shack has the Soundblaster Pro at $99.99. This is the discontinued price.
 Its hard to find, though.  Your local R.S. manager can get it thoough, if you
pressure him to look around his district and the nearby districts.  This will
nearly bring your machine up to multimedia specs.  Ask the R.S. manager to show
you the memo about Multimedia kits and see what you need to get all the way to
the spec.  Beth called last night.

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 8128
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/04/93 12:20p
Subj: Wrong Area                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Did I read the docs correctly? Registered users of Match Maker

Sorry bout this, copyied it to the wrong area...

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From: JEAN-LOUIS BONTRONT                    Number: 8129
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 12/04/93  9:03a
Subj: Educational shareware CD                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hayden Bradshaw digitally articulated the following
to Jean-louis Bontront on 01 Dec 93  12:31

 HB> I do, Jean-Louis.  $26 CDN plus $4.00 S/H and applicable taxes!

Just ordered it!  Thanks!

JLB

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8130
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/05/93  1:56a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            C R E A M     O F     T H E     C R O P    I I

OVER 654 MEGS New Shareware   4987 Files Dated '93'  Dup Checked
Virus Checked                 Files.BBS Support      Multi Line Discription
Mouse Support Menu            14Megs Prog Code       Plus MORE !!!
Only 200 prog Older Than April '93' - 10% Dup to NO10, Pier3, Software Gold

                               PRICE - $25.

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263   FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8131
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/05/93  1:56a
Subj: SPECIAL                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~[  S P E C I A L  B U N D L E S  ]~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1. Software Vault Gold     2. Night Owl 10.         3. Shareware Online 2
   Software Vault Games       Night Owl Games          Gameware
   Software Vault Windows     Night Owl Graphics       Soundware
   Price - $49.00             Price - $65.00           Price - $49.00

4. Hobbes OS/2 'NOV'       5. Tech Arsenal          6. Pier 3
   Window Users Arch          TechnoTool               Cream Of The Crop II
   Price - $30.00             Price - $30.00           Price - $45.00

   ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUE 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

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From: PAT DELIN                              Number: 8132
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/04/93  2:33p
Subj: Re: Cd Rom for sale                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Scott Raley to Pat Delin ***

SR> Will trade you a copy of WordPerfect 5.2 for Windows for that
SR> cdrom
SR> drive.
SR>
SR> Please reply.
SR>
SR> Thanks
SR> Scott Raley
SR> ___
SR>  X MegaMail 2.10 #0:
SR>

Nah, Looking for cash.. Thanks for the offer..

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From: PAT DELIN                              Number: 8133
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/04/93  2:35p
Subj: Re: Magnavox CDD-461                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Scott Raley to Pat Delin ***

SR> @MSGID: 1:2612/10.0 2cfce424
SR> How much for the cdrom?
SR>
SR> Interested in trading?
SR>
SR> Thanks
SR> Scott raley

Well, Goes for 250$ New in Computer shopper.. So make me an offer..

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From: KEVIN MARTIN                           Number: 8134
  To: LEO MULVIHILL                            Date: 12/05/93  6:50a
Subj: CD's for Sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On Dec 02 00:11, Leo Mulvihill of 1:2614/707 wrote:

 LM> Microsoft Bookshelf for Windows 1992 edition
 LM> Make offer

$20 delivered?

Kevin

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 8135
  To: LORI SMITH                               Date: 12/04/93 11:42p
Subj: Cc2 -File List?                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Lori Smith wrote in a message to All:

LS> Hello everyone...

LS> I am interested in obtaining the allfiles  list  for  the  Cream
LS> Of The Crop 2 CD.  I would like to take a  look  at  what  files
LS> are on it, before I make  a  decision  to  purchase  it.    Does
LS>  anyone  know  where  I  might  be  able  to  FREQ  this   from?

 You can freq the list from me under the magic  name  "CREAM"  but
 I'm running an HST modem and it is 245 k.  If you don't  have  an
 HST modem it would be a costly phone call.  You can get the  disc
 from me for $29 or for a couple bucks less from a couple  dealers
 who frequently advertise it in this echo.   I  am  confident  you
 will like it and if you are not satisfied I will exchange it  for
 any disc I have in stock.

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From: MIKE HILL                              Number: 8136
  To: WC HILL                                  Date: 12/02/93 11:53a
Subj: Re: cd storage boxes want               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Wc Hill to All <=-

 WH> Occasionally I'll get a CD that comes in a cardboard wrapper/cover.
 WH> What I'd like to find is a plastic storage box/device that I can store
 WH> these disks in, individually. Is there anything out there that other
 WH> users have found that works or is available commercially?

   Wc,
     Most Record Exchanges or other used CD resale stores carry the plastic
   boxes that you're looking for. The can normally be had for around $1 a
   piece. However, they don't usually come with the black plastic insert that
   holds the CD in place. For that you can put a small piece of foam rubber
   or whatever to hold the CD in place.
                                           Mike

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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 8137
  To: ADAM GILBERT                             Date: 12/03/93  3:40p
Subj: CD-ROM Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hitachi CDR3500 Internal drives have an access time of 800ms.  They use a
proprietary controller that is NOT compatible with a standard SCSI controller.
 The Hitachi uses a flat ribbon cable with berg strip connectors like the ones
on IDE Hard Drives.  In other words, you can not buy a Hitachi and chain it
onto your current SCSI controller.  Hope this helps!
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From: THOMAS MENG                            Number: 8138
  To: MARTIN YEE                               Date: 12/05/93  9:00a
Subj: Busty babes ii                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MY>   Interested in a trade for any of the following: The Animals! MPC 
MY> CDROM Macmillan Dictionary for Children MPC CDROM
 
  Sorry someone allready told me they want it. I'm waiting for their check. If
the deal falls through I advertize it again...
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From: THOMAS MENG                            Number: 8139
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/05/93  9:01a
Subj: Busty Babes II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SR> I will give you $25 for it or trade you for another cd like Storm
SR> I?
 
  Its sold!   Thanks..... 
                      Tom
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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 8140
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/05/93  5:39a
Subj: HOBBES OS/2 10/93: $16                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike, could you please send me a catalog?
including adult.
1435 N. Tamarisk
Chandler, Az. 85224

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 8141
  To: CHUCK ADAMS                              Date: 12/05/93 10:02a
Subj: sound effects library                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Chuck,

I am currently out of this CD... I might get some more on monday... probably
about the time you see this message... What the CD has is 300 sound effects in
.wav format... has a very good program that plays/records/edits them also along
with it....  thats all it is.... I will shoot you a message when I get some
more.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: BILL JONES                             Number: 8142
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/04/93  3:44p
Subj: Re: FOR SALE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Are you interested in trading for a copy of WordPerfect 5.2 for
 > Windows?

 Sorry, but not interested in the trade.


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From: RICHARD LEIGHTON                       Number: 8143
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93  2:17p
Subj: Clipart                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi All,
        I'm Looking for some good graphics for Word Perfect, 
        I would prefer that they be in .WPG format. I need some 
        in the order of Beer logos, glass full, cans, bottles, 
        Pool tables "Shooting", or Bull(s) as in cows. 
        I do the typing for our Pool League and I shoot for the
        Brave Bull Saloon. Does anybody have or know of a CD-ROM 
        that has this on them. PCX. is ok but I would like B/W
        to keep distortion down.

                                        Thanks for your help
                                        Richard

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From: DAN RAY                                Number: 8144
  To: ILLE! (1:375/56.2)ããã ---                Date: 12/05/93  2:30p
Subj:                                         Refer: NONE
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From: DAN RAY                                Number: 8147
  To: ENLIGHTENS,ãDANãã(:-)  TO                Date: 12/05/93  2:30p
Subj: ul, to not try guarentees               Refer: NONE
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From: DAN RAY                                Number: 8148
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/05/93  2:30p
Subj:                                         Refer: NONE
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From: JOHN PEARCE                            Number: 8149
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/03/93  3:58p
Subj: Re: F'Reqing your catalog               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi again, Boris.

 BO> I'll check into it and see if there's anything we can do with it. I do
 BO> know our system will not allow file requests from unlisted nodes, could
 BO> that be the problem ??

BINGO! That explains why two of the f'reqs failed.

 BO> In the meantime, I'll see if we can shoot you a copy !!

'Tis appreciated.

        -John-

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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8150
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93  7:54p
Subj: Cdrom Disc Holiday Price                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8151
  To: MIKE BRADLEY                             Date: 12/03/93  7:56p
Subj: Medical Encyclopedia                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 11-30-93 Mike Bradley wrote to All... 
 
 MB> ***************************** W A N T E D *************************** 
 MB> In need of a Medical Encyclopedia for use by Student taking Nursing 
 MB> Clinicals. CDRom for DOS preferred.  Am not interested in a 'home 
 MB> usage 
 MB> medical program.                 Mike 
 
Leave me a fax# where I can fax a list to you.  It might be of help- 
no guarantee. 
Richard Carter 
 
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8152
  To: JEFF HUGHES                              Date: 12/03/93  8:03p
Subj: ADA Programming...                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 11-30-93 Jeff Hughes wrote to ALL... 
 
 JH> RE: CDROM Pricing 
 JH> BY: Stephen Nobrega (1:251/8) 
 JH> >RC>ADA Programming................$18.00 
 JH>      I never saw the original, who is selling this? 
 JH>      This is the ADA Aeronautics/NASA programming language?  Are there 
 JH> any 
 JH> compilers included?  I'm interested. 
 JH>      Jeff 
 JH>      319-232-0191 
We have it!  ComputerHelp!! 
It is a Walnut Creek CDROM, and the description Walnut Creek offers is: 
560+ Mb of documentation, information , and source code.  With more than 
5,000 files, this idsc is an indispensible resource for any ADA programmer. 
Imagine the convienience of refering to the disc for all the Ada language 
reference manuals, a complete set of Ada language issue comments, PC and 
Mac Ada/ED compilers, benchmarks, validation suites, courseware, Ada pro- 
gramming tools, and prodigious amounts of souce code. 
 
(If you want it, see our Price List and Order Form in this area.  Fill 
it out and send it in.) 
-Richard Carter 
 
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8153
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93  8:35p
Subj: CDROM Disc Holiday Price                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM Disc's 
 
          from:     ComputerHelp 
                    PO Box 385041 
                    Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
               Ph:  (612) 890-4750, (800) 514-7071 
                    Fax:  (612) 894-9411 
 
(as of 12/02/93) 
          SIMTEL MSDOS               $13.00 
          CICA MS Windows            $13.00 
          Hobbes OS/2                $13.00 
          Aminet Amiga               $13.00 
          Garbo MSDOS/Mac            $13.00 
          Sprite OS                  $13.00 
          QRZ! Ham Radio             $13.00 
          ADA Programming            $18.50 
          GIGA Games                 $18.50 
          La Coleccion               $18.50 
          Nova for NeXTs             $18.50 
          Project Gutenberg          $18.50 
          Source Code                $18.50 
          X11/GNU                    $18.50 
          Info-Mac                   $25.50 
          CUG Library                $23.50 
          Linux                      $23.50 
          Libris Britannia           $34.00 
          Space and Astronomy        $18.50 
 
                  ***SPECIAL***SPECIAL***SPECIAL*** 
     =>>> Order 3 at once and take an Extra $1 Off of Each <<<= 
        (Limited Time Offer!!! Print and enclose this ad with 
                your order.  Good through 12/31/93!!!!) 
 
Shipping:      1-3 discs in one order = $4.50, 4-10 discs in one 
order = $6.50. 
          (MN residents add 6.5% sales tax). 
 
          All prices subject to change without notice. 
          "Yes Mildred, we do take personal cheques!" 
 
All orders by pre-payment, (you want cheap prices....); send to 
address above.  Call with any questions.  (Sorry, we don't accept 
credit cards:  they add to the 
    price and we want to be able to offer you the CHEAPEST PRICES 
   AVAILABLE.  "Thank You for Your Support!!!    -  Richard Carter 
                             ORDER FORM 
 
YES!  Please accept my order for: 
 
  Quantity          Item:         Price Each:   Extension: 
     : 
            SIMTEL MSDOS          $13.00 
            CICA MS Windows       $13.00 
            Hobbes OS/2           $13.00 
            Aminet Amiga          $13.00 
            Garbo MSDOS/Mac       $13.00 
            Sprite OS             $13.00 
            QRZ! Ham Radio        $13.00 
            ADA Programming       $18.50 
            GIGA Games            $18.50 
            La Coleccion          $18.50 
            Nova for NeXTs        $18.50 
            Project Gutenberg     $18.50 
            Source Code           $18.50 
            X11/GNU               $18.50 
            Info-Mac              $25.50 
            CUG Library           $23.50 
            Linux                 $23.50 
            Libris Britannia      $34.00 
            Space and Astronomy   $18.50 
                                  SubTotal:     $ 
                                  TX (MN Only)  $ 
                                  Shipping      $ 
                                  TOTAL:        $ 
 
Shipping: $4.50 for 1-3 discs, $6.50 for 4-10 discs, Call for 
quantities 
            larger than 10 discs. 
          If you have an existing FedEX acct and want to charge to 
it, 
          "No Problem!" 
          We Do COD, but only with FedEX, and by Cashiers Cheque 
            (it's expensive, but on large orders it might be worth 
looking at). 
Sales Tax:     MN Only!!  6.5% 
 
We DO Accept Cheques (Personal & Business held for 5 days to clear; 
     Money Orders & Cashiers Cheques ship same day as in stock). 
Call With Any Questions, "We Are Here to Serve Your Needs!" 
 
Please Ship TO: 
  Name: 
  Street Address: 
  City:                      State:         Zip: 
  My Home Phone is:  (      ) My Work Phone is:  (      ) 
   (In case we have a question [or 2] regarding your order) 
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8154
  To: FRANK SERENO                             Date: 12/04/93 12:25a
Subj: BUY PIER3 GET A CD FREE!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FS>Mike, I already have CD PowerBox v1.00.  What other disc would you be
willing
FS>to throw in for free?  I thought I posted earlier asking if you would honor

Oh, I dunno.......how about Super Games for Windows, or Phoenix 4???  Gimme a
call, and we'll fix you up Frank.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8155
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/04/93 12:25a
Subj: CD GUIDE FREE W/ $100+ PR               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           | Title:  THE CD-ROM OF CD-ROMS |  |   Price:  $29   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

                    >>> FREE w/ any $100 CD purchase <<<

     This Windows 3.1 multimedia CD is a directory of over 4000 CD-ROM
     titles, nearly 5000 companies (with contact information), almost
     2000 industry movers & shakers, and close to 600 critical,
     professional reviews of CD-ROM titles.  It is written for Windows
     3.1 in a multimedia relational database, with SVGA color pictures
     of titles & screen shots, with motion, sound, and musical tracks
     from some of the leading CD titles today!

                  VERY UP TO DATE!   RELEASED:  NOV 13 1993
     THIS CD-ROM REFERENCE HAS MORE LISTINGS THAN IT'S TWO COMPETITORS
                    WHICH COST HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS EACH!

     This outstanding reference tool has the standard info on each title,
     including publisher, price, addresses, etc., plus a large number of
     critical reviews to give you an in-depth knowledge of just what the
     title is about.  If you are thinking about buying ANY CD-ROM's in
     the near future, GET THIS DISC!!!

     ADDED BONUS:  Included on the CD is a full working copy of PC
                   KARAOKE, absolutely FREE!

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              PRICING:   CD-ROM of CD-ROM'S ALONE.........$29
                         WITH ANY CD-ROM PURCHASE..........$9
                        *WITH ANY $100 CD-ROM PURCHASE...FREE
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                 >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<
               * Closeouts and discounted items not included

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8156
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 12/04/93 12:25a
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices11/23/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RL>RC>How I do it is Simple:  Participate in the Free Enterprise System
RL>RC>and be willing to take a very skinny profit  -- Isn't that what you
RL>RC>want as a consumer?

RL>That's the best way to do it! You charge less, make a smaller profit per
RL>item BUT you will make MORE money because you will sell MORE of them.

Unfortunately, that's not always true.  Many merchants think that if you
cut an item's price by 10%, a simple 10% increase in sales will make up for
it.  Actually, a 10% discount on an item necessitates a sales increase of
43% to maintain the same amount of profit. (using a 50% markup as a base)
Knocking 20% off a given item requires a sales increase of a whopping 150%
to recover, and it progresses geometrically from there.

Many a dealer has gone by the "cut 10, increase 10" philosophy, and gone
out of business doing so.

Just somethin' to think about!  8)

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8157
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/04/93 12:25a
Subj: CD-ROM 4PAK: $49                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            __________________________________     _____________
           |                                  |   |             |
           | Title:  SHAREWARE EXPLORER 4-PAK |   | Price:  $49 |
           |__________________________________|   |_____________|

     This great 4-volume shareware CD set is brought to you by the same
     folks who did the 5-Star Premium series, and is every bit as well-
     organized and up-to-date as the 5-Star CD's were.  Are you tired of
     the old, poorly organized shareware CD sets?  You won't be
     disappointed with Shareware Explorer - we guarantee it!

     * Over 26,000 total files (1992/1993)
     * Less than 1% duplication between CD's.
     * 3 volumes are DOS, and 1 is Windows shareware (7000 files)
     * BBS-ready with PC-Board and FILES.BBS file listings.
     * EZ-Access menu program.

                    >> IN STOCK FOR IMMEDIATE DELIVERY! <<

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 8158
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/04/93  6:10p
Subj: Amateur Models for trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Wish to trade Amateur Models (new, viewed only once) for another adult
cd disc.


 * OLX 2.1 TD * All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here.


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 8159
  To: ANYONE                                   Date: 12/04/93  6:11p
Subj: Women On Wheels                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like to know more about this WOWs.  What kind of disc is it and
who is selling it for how much?  Thanks

 * OLX 2.1 TD * --T-A+G-L-I+N-E--+M-E-A+S-U-R+I-N-G+--G-A+U-G-E--


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From: ERIC HO                                Number: 8160
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93  9:55p
Subj: CD-ROM UPDATE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                **********************************
                *  NEWS  NEWS  NEWS  NEWS  NEWS  *
                **********************************

   If you have purchased Dr. Windows Vol. I or Dr. Shareware Vol. I CD-ROM,
   you can get upgrade from Accurate Research, Inc.

   ********************************************************************
   *  New Dr. Windows - Gennuine  :  Just released on Nov. 20, 1993.  *
   *  New Dr. Shareware - Gold    :  Also on Nov. 21, 1993.           *
   ********************************************************************


   How to get upgrade version ?

   (We can recycle your old DR. CD-ROMs.)


   1. Mail in your orginal (old) Dr. Windows Vol. I or Dr. Shareware
      Vol. I CD-ROM along with US$10 for shipping and handling charge.

   2. If you send it back with money order or cashier's check, new version
      of DR. CD-ROM will be shipped same day by UPS.

   3. Allow 15 business days for shipping when paying by personal check.

   4. Make check or money order payable to ACCURATE RESEARCH, INC.
      No cash please.

   5. If you don't have DR.CD-ROM products, please encourage your local
      retail stores to carry the new version of DR.CD-ROMs from ARI.

   6. For end users only.

   7. Upgrade offer good thru Dec. 31, 1993.

   8. Call for more information.


            ACCURATE RESEARCH, INC.        (Home of DR. CD-ROM)
            1500 Wyatt Drive, #10
            Santa Clara, CA 95054
            Tel:408-748-9988
            Fax:408-748-9989
            BBS:408-453-6250 V32bis 14400
            FidoNet 1:143/88

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From: CHUCK SILVA                            Number: 8161
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/02/93  8:41a
Subj: CD ROM Catalogs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Okay, all you CD ROM sellers out there!  I've got
the drive but I don't have the disks. Here's your
chance to sell. I am interested in BBS-ready
CD ROMS for my BBS.

Please send catalog to:

Chuck Silva
4211 Verde Vista
Georgetown, TX 78628

... This copy of GEdit has been unregistered for 30 days.
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From: BYRON KROHN                            Number: 8162
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 11/25/93  1:12p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM Drive 4Sa                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Scott wrote:

SR>I will take this cd and pay for the shipping. ONly if it comes with
SR>controller card and cable.

Sorry Scott, but the unit was sold on 11/22. Maybe I priced it too low!

Thanks anyway.   Byron---

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From: BYRON KROHN                            Number: 8163
  To: STEVE BUTCHER                            Date: 11/25/93  1:13p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM Drive 4Sa                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Steve wrote:


SB>Is the drive still available? If so, is it Kodak 
SB>compatible. What are the specs?

Sorry Steve, but the unit was sold on 11/22.

Thanks anyhow!  Byron--

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From: ALLEN DIETZ                            Number: 8164
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 11/27/93  5:37p
Subj: Encarta for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EP>I have Microsoft's Encarta encyclopedia CD for sale.  This CD is chock
EP>full of articles, pictures and sound.  It requires Windows to run and a
EP>sound card for the sound.  I am asking $110 delivered....

Just for your information, Egghead is selling Encarta new for around
$89, and you can buy Encarta direct from Microsoft until January 1
for $99.

Allen


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From: SAM AMSLER                             Number: 8165
  To: CRAIG REILLY                             Date: 11/30/93  9:28p
Subj: Re: Wanted...                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Craig Reilly to All <=-

 CR> Is there anyone trying to sell a CD-ROM Drive for under 
 CR> $100.00 bucks...I know it is asking for a lot...because 
 CR> they are expensive...but It would help my company out a 
 CR> lot...THANX!!


 CR> ... Eat the women  ---Axl Rose
 CR> ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

 CR> -!- DB 1.54/004201
 CR>  ! Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126)
..
In Austin at the "Loading Doc" Austin Computers had a bunch of cd-rom
drives for $100.  I am not sure you can get same by mail order,
however.  


... Open mouth, insert foot, echo internationally.
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From: WARREN DANIO                           Number: 8166
  To: DICK WALSH                               Date: 12/04/93 10:26a
Subj: RE: SHAREWARE STUDIO III                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* Dick Walsh said to Boris Osadciw, the following:
DW > Boris when I called you the other day you had a 800 number
DW > didn't you
DW > also I did expect a shipment from you that you said would
DW > go 2nd day
DW > delivery of CD's  I did expect you to ship on Monday and it
DW > did not arrive
DW > on Wednesday   I am not worried about it but you paid the
DW > post office for
DW > something that they are not doing for you. Better check
DW > into it <Richard
DW > Walsh>

DW > --- QM v1.26/a
DW >  * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 10+ gigs, 100,000 files
DW > 313-854-6001 (1:234/2)

        Hi Richard.. With this being the holiday season DO NOT
        Expect the postal service or any other carrier to be
        on time.. UPS will only guaranty red ships and the
        post office is in the same boat and don't worry about
        Boris, he is a man of his word. I have done business
        with him and been very satisfied.    TTYL8R   Warren

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From: WARREN DANIO                           Number: 8167
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 12/04/93 10:54a
Subj: hobbes 10/93??                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* Dave Reed said to Boris Osadciw, the following:
DR > Hello Boris!

DR > Monday November 29 1993 02:31, Boris Osadciw wrote to Dave
DR > Perkovich:

DR > >>> Too bad you haven't seen our OS/2Box.  Seeing as it is truly
DR > >>> BBS ready and has a

DR > BO> Sorry to say Dave, but we have looked at it and that's why we're not
DR > BO> promoting your product!

DR > That's funny!  I heard the reason you were'nt support the
DR > OS/2 Box is because
DR > you refuse to buy it from Mike Shannon, and you want to
DR > screw Dave for not making you the "exclusive distributor."
DR > As a matter of fact, that's exactly what you said to
DR > ******, whom I talked to just the other day.

DR > Later,

DR > Dave

DR > ... Clinton - From a chicken in every pot, to a chicken who
DR > smoked pot!

        Hey dude.. I just got through reading 3 of these whineing
        type messages from you taking Pot Shots at Boris who has
        an Excellent reputation here while you on the other hand
        seem to be a real AS*HOLE.. If Boris says it's dog meat
        I can accept that and as for Mike and Boris, I have dealt
        with both BUT I prefer doing business with Boris..

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From: BILL HALL                              Number: 8168
  To: MIKE FITZSIMONDS                         Date: 12/05/93  7:27p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi 2x Spin                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MFBH>Thanks for the info, I was looking into buying one of these drives.

Glad to help.

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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 8169
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93  7:59p
Subj: PowerBox II                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

OK boys and girls.  Damar Enterprises announces ANOTHER new release! 
 
                          The CD PowerBox Version 2.00 
 
We just went to press on this and it is scheduled for shipment to the better 
dealers in this echo on December 15, 1993.  The disk has been checked against 
itself, Pier3 and NOWL10 for duplication (and virsus, of course). 
 
The % dupes between PowerBox2 and NOWL10 - 7.94% 
                                  PIER3  - 12.85% 
 
So, why would you be interested in the PowerBox 2 over these other 2?  Well, 
first off, the PowerBox 2 has NEWER files!  As new as November 13, 1993! 
 
Second off, the PowerBox 2 has over 500 MORE files than the NOWL10 disk and,
get 
this folks, over 1000 more than PIER3!  These are the NEWEST and GREATEST files

available right now AND IN TIME FOR CHRISTMAS.  OK, that's it from me - contact

your favorite dealer for pre-orders and if they don't carry the PowerBox 2,
tell 
them to call us for dealer pricing!! 
 
Oh yeah, almost forgot - the PowerBox 2 features the UNIVERSAL INTERFACE!  This

is a GUI based on the need by YOU for a single standard front end for your 
various different shareware disks!  No longer do you need to mess around with 
the others' GUI, use the UNIVERSAL INTERFACE - found ONLY on Damar Enterprises 
CD-ROMS. 
 
Now back to the usual stuff, 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
The CD PowerBox Guys! 
 
 
  
... Damar Enterprises - Home of the shareware CD-boxes! 
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From: MIKE GRIFFIN                           Number: 8170
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/05/93 11:04p
Subj: CD GUIDE FREE W/ $100+ PR               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hello Mike!

04 Dec 93 00:25, Mike Shannon wrote to All:

 MS>             ____________________________________________________
 MS>            |                                                    |
 MS>            |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
 MS>            |____________________________________________________|
 MS>             _______________________________    _________________
 MS>            |                               |  |                 |
 MS>            | Title:  THE CD-ROM OF CD-ROMS |  |   Price:  $29   |
 MS>            |_______________________________|  |_________________|

 MS>                     >>> FREE w/ any $100 CD purchase <<<


 MS>      ADDED BONUS:  Included on the CD is a full working copy of PC
 MS>                    KARAOKE, absolutely FREE!

 MS>                          WITH ANY CD-ROM PURCHASE..........$9
 MS>                         *WITH ANY $100 CD-ROM PURCHASE...FREE

Mike, It never fails.. Right after I receive an order from ya... :(


Mike

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From: STEVEN ESTENSON                        Number: 8171
  To: WC HILL                                  Date: 12/03/93  5:12p
Subj: CD STORAGE BOXES WANTED                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WH> Occasionally I'll get a CD that comes in a cardboard wrapper/cover.
  >What I'd like to find is a plastic storage box/device that I can store

Hello WC Walmart sells those plastic Cd boxes in packs of four. they
don't cost that much.. Look in the music area.
Have a good day         Later  Steven
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From: DAVE MARTIN                            Number: 8172
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 12/04/93  7:44p
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG WANTED                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Richard,

        Please send me a copy of your latest catalog listing all the
        CD-ROM disks that you have available.

        Thanks.

        Dave Martin
        13305 119th Ave NE
        Kirkland, WA 98034-2159


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From: DAVE MARTIN                            Number: 8173
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 12/04/93  7:47p
Subj: CD-ROM Catalog wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        On (28 Nov 93) Ismail Arslangiray wrote to All...

IA> Our new catalog and monthly specials are about to be mailed. If you
IA> like to receive our catalogs, please contact us via netmail, fax or
IA> postal service.

        Please send a copy to:

        Dave Martin
        13305 119th Ave NE
        Kirkland, WA 98034-2159

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From: DAVE MARTIN                            Number: 8174
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 12/04/93  7:51p
Subj: CD-ROM Catalog wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Kevin,

        Please send me a copy of your latest catalog listing all the
        CD-ROM disks that you have available.

        Thanks.

        Dave Martin
        13305 119th Ave NE
        Kirkland, WA 98034-2159


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 8175
  To: NINO FAGAN                               Date: 12/05/93  5:27p
Subj: hobbes 10/93??                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 NF> Dave, I got three copies of this stuff.  It's costing me money to get
 NF> this echo.  How about taking this kind of crap private and you and
 NF> Boris can duke it out without costing all the downloaders of this echo
 NF> coins.

I'm sorry about you getting three copies.  I only sent one.  It costs me, too,
so sit back and enjoy the ride... or take another bus.

Later,

Dave.

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 8176
  To: PAUL SCHIFFERLI                          Date: 12/06/93 12:06a
Subj: Censorship                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello PAUL!

Friday December 03 1993 15:05, PAUL SCHIFFERLI wrote to ALL:

 PS> The latest issue of PC Magazine informs all readers that they will no
 PS> longer accept adds of an ADULT nature with Graphics.  I note that the
 PS> Editor is a woman.  You would think that everyone would have learned by
 PS> now that censoring doesn't work.  They are targeting the CD-ROM
 PS> collections in particular.
 PS> To the all seeing person who reviews messages.  I am a casual user and
 PS> do not know if this is the proper place for the above, but the CD-ROM
 PS> tie in seemed logical to me.
 PS> To all, why not let PC Mag know how you feel about the issue.

They have been under "attack" from both sides of this issue.  They have
implemented a reasonable compromise.  They are going to allow the ads... just
no more pictures.

Later,

Dave

... I have the heart of a liberal... in a jar on my desk!

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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 8177
  To: MICHAEL GUIDRY                           Date: 12/05/93  8:31p
Subj: Medical Cd's Wanted                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 12-02-93 Michael Guidry wrote to Paul Swider... 
 
 MG> On 01 Dec 93, Paul Swider stated to Johnny Hudson: 
  
 MG> PS>Johnny, I'm selling a ROM titled Emergency Medicine MEDLINE 1:1 
 MG>  
 MG> I'll take it if he doesn't.  Just let me know how you want to make the 
 MG> deal. 
  
 Michael, I waited 5 days and no response from Johnny Hudson so its yours. 
 Send me $16.50 and I'll send it to you 1st Class Mail after I receive 
 the money. Send to:  Paul F. Swider 509 Digger St. Las Vegas, Nv. 89107 
 >Paul< 
 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50  ""Showtime, folks!"" 

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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 8178
  To: JERRY ZELLER                             Date: 12/05/93  8:34p
Subj: Medical CD's Wanted                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 12-03-93 Jerry Zeller wrote to Paul Swider... 
 
 JZ> Paul - I'll give you $15 shipped for this.  Jerry 
  
 Jerry, thanks for the offer but somebody else agreed to pay the 
 postage too, so it's his. >Paul< 
 
 
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From: CHRIS CONKLIN                          Number: 8179
  To: DAVE BAKKER                              Date: 12/05/93  1:24p
Subj: Plant CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Dave,

   Although I'm not real familar with the plant disc's, I have talked with my
distributor for more information.  There are currently three CD titles
available to me that deal with plants and gardenings.  They are:

Gardening:  $17.00
-  Includes garden planning, layout,  landscaping, pest control, herbology
and more.  Photos for idenfication and reference guides.

The Plant Doctor:  $29.00
-  A Quanta Press's disc for the horticulturist

Pixel Garden:  $29.00
-  Database of 522 ornamental plants common in the U.S.  Was compilied by three
horticulturists.  

The distributor told me that the Gardening has been a very popular selling
disc.  I told him what you do and relayed the info of your desires.  As with
myself, doesn't want to tell you a specific disc as we are not totally familar
with them.  Sorry I couldn't be of more help.  If you would like, I can send
you one of the disc's above.  He said they all seem to give alot of details
above various plants etc.    Let me know.....

TTYL

915-944-7187   (Evenings are best)


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From: CHRIS CONKLIN                          Number: 8180
  To: DAVID RYDER                              Date: 12/05/93  1:32p
Subj: CD'S Wanted                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi David

    Sorry, however the only Nightowl I have left in stock is #5 (one copy
left).  Two of my distributors have dropped the Nightowl series and are not
going to carry it again.  (They got burned on this).  Make me an offer on the
last disc I have left and it's yours!

    I will be carring more Shareware disc after the first of the year with the
94 data.  I do carry several older versions of various share programs.  Many of
those in the catatlog are still available.  I get requests from time to time
for some of the older disc's so do carry these in limited quantities.  The
furthest I have back however, it around the 90's and 91's.

   Let me know what you would like to do.  If you want to bundle another deal,
I'll be happy to chat with you about it!

TTYL     915-944-7187

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From: G. LARRY WEBB                          Number: 8181
  To: DANNY TSENG                              Date: 12/05/93  9:30a
Subj: MICROSOFT BOOKSHELF                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a copy of the 1992 BookShelf; it is the one included with soundblaster
multimedia upgrade kits.... I'm asking $25 plus $2.90 shipping if you prepay
with money order... It's for windows.... let me know if you're interested...
thanks..

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From: DOUG HUMMEL                            Number: 8182
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 12/06/93  7:14a
Subj: Cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I HAVE A WORKING DRIVE BUT NO SOUND AND AS YOU KNOW IT IS VERY IMPORTANT WITH
KIDS. I HAVE NO SOUND AT THE EARPHONE JACK OR THE 4 PIN CONNECTOR AT THE BACK
OF THE DRIVE WHICH I ASSUME SO TO THE SOUND CARD WHICH I DON'T HAVE.  SO I NEED
SEVERAL THINGS...
1> WHAT DO YOU CHARGE TO REFEB A DRIVE
2> WHAT IS THE COST OF A USED DRIVE
3> WHAT IS THE CHARGE FOR THE BOARDS THAT DEAL WITH SOUND 
4> IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET TIPS ON TROUBLESHOOTING THE SOUND PORTION OF THIS
DRIVE
ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED
THANKS DOUG
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From: THOMAS KINNEN                          Number: 8183
  To: IAN SINGER                               Date: 12/06/93  8:25p
Subj: Novell Netware 3.xx & CDR               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

IS>You can use any cd drive on Novell, but not attached to the server.  Put

Novell now supports any SCSI CD-ROM on the server as a volume 3.12 and
4.x come with the NLM. Most SCSI cards also come with a NLM for 3.11
also.  This also incudes 6 disk units.

Tom

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From: MARK LEHR                              Number: 8184
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/02/93  9:46p
Subj: Sony CDU-31 single spin C               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÿ@SUBJECT:Sony CDU-31 single spin CD-Roms FOR SALE                    N
********************************************************************
*********************FOR SALE CD-ROM DRIVES*************************

SONY CDU-31 CD-ROM DRIVE -----------$ 125.00  Qty 100 in Stock
  (Includes cables & Controler Card)


Microsoft Music Card Bundle --------$  75.00  Qty. 100 in Stock
  (Includes Labtec CS-180 Speakers,
   Headphones, Microsoft Microphone,
   Microsoft Music Card adlib compatable)

We Accept Mastercard, or Visa or Cash COD
Call P.C. Pipeline 1-605-665-1697 10 a.m. - 5 p.m. Mon. - Sat.

**********************************************************************

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From: SCOTT HORMAN                           Number: 8185
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/05/93  1:18p
Subj: Hell Cab                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hell Cab for IBM...

This game is MPC with box $43.50

call 515-255-8592 or net mail to 1:290/7



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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8186
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/06/93  1:40a
Subj: NEW CD-ROM TITLES!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #1:  NEW CD ARRIVALS   |
           |____________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

 20TH CENTURY SPORTS * Multimedia journal of sport history from 1900 on.$29
 ADVENTURES IN HEAVEN * Ultimate game collection!.......................$19
 A.S.P. SHAREWARE * Finally! A CD full of works from ASP authors........$22
>CD-ROM OF CD-ROMS * Complete guide to over 4000 current CD titles......$29
>DARE, BLUFF, OR DIE * Exciting old West shoot'em up game...............$29
 DUNE * Exciting multimedia action game on CD! Great animation & sound..$39
 FRACTUNES * Colorful, ever-changing graphics synched with music........$30
 GAMES COLLECTION * A pure-games CD featuring 90% '93 file dates! BBS...$26
 GIF'S GALORE 9/93 * Thousands of new, brilliant, color .GIF images.....$16
 GIRLS OF MARDI GRAS * New "R" adult film showcasing wild party girls...$43
 GROLIER'S MPC 6.0 * The latest edition of Grolier's encyclopedia.......$45
 HEALTH & MEDICAL DIRECTORY * Guide to all doctors & hospitals in U.S...$27
 HOBBES OS/2 10/93 * The latest version w/ 3000 current OS/2 files!.....$16
 HOLLYWOOD THE BIZARRE * Lives & deaths of the stars w/ 1 hr. of voices.$43
 HORROR & SCI-FI FILMS * Full details of over 2300 films w/ 100s of pix.$43
 IMAGES OF NASA * The finest collection of authentic NASA photos........$25
>JEWEL CASES * They always break, so buy extras!.........................$1
 LA COLECCION * 600+mb of recent shareware w/ description is Spanish....$24
 LAN MASTER * High quality Networking utilities & technical notes.......$25
 LEARNING HEAVEN * Mind challenging educational games...................$19
 LINUX OPERATING SYSTEM * Unix-like operating system for PC's...........$29
 MAD DOG MCCREE * Great shoot 'em up game with real, full-motion video..$39
 MONSTER MEDIA 93 VOL 2 * 630+mb from May thru Aug. 93 with manual!.....$29
 MULTIMEDIA MAGIC COLLECTION * Complete commercial programs & M/M demos.$28
 NEWSWEEK INTERACTIVE * An exciting look back at Newsweek's top stories.$26
 OS/2BOX * The best, most recent OS/2 shareware CD. Fully BBS-ready.....$25
 -->SPECIAL PAK: OS/2BOX + HOBBES 10/93.................................$39
 PC SIG WINDOWS * Full of the latest Windows shareware..................$19
 PROJECT GUTENBERG * Texts from Project Gutenberg for 1991-1993.........$22
 PUBLISHER'S POWERHOUSE * 750 TrueType fonts + 8200 PCX images w/ book!.$29
 RETURN TO ZORK * Live-action video game w/ Hollywood actors. Great!....$50
 SHAREWARE 93 VOL 2 * Sep. 93 release w/ all new 1993 files! BBS-ready..$20
 SO MUCH SPACE! * A galaxy full of breathtaking scenes from space.......$24
 SOLAR HEAVEN * Nice collection of astronomy & astrology programs.......$23
 SPACE & ASTRONOMY * Over 7000 image & shareware files on astronomy.....$27
 SPACE SHUTTLE * Multimedia adventure aboard the shuttle w/ 50 missions.$25
 TECH ARSENAL * 1000's of recent, programming and techincal files.......$22
 WINDOWS COLLECTION * A Windows-only CD with ALL '93 file dates! BBS....$26
 WORLD FACT BOOK M/M * Full multimedia guide for researchers or "spies".$23

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8187
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/06/93  1:40a
Subj: CD-ROM SALE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #4:  CD-ROM LIQUIDATION!   |
         |________________________________________________________|

            All sales are final - Sale limited to stock on hand!

Mega Clipart........$19   Powerpak Gold 3.0...$13   Wrath of the Demon..$27
World Vision 3-Pak..$37   Business Phonebk 91.$13   Bookshelf 1992......$35
Mac Shareware.......$17   Precision Mapping...$68   Mac M/M Space.......$29
Sporting News.......$22   DTPro...............$24   Game Pack 2.........$22
Shareware Direct...SOLD   Phoenix 4.0.........$17   Jedi Collection.....$37
Compton's Fam Ency..$19   Clipart Galore......$22   Reel Clips..........$24
Library of Future...$37   Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$21   Arizona Images......$19
Top 2000 Shareware..$18   Software Vault 1....$15   CD Powerbox.........$13
King's Quest V......$17   Hobbes OS/2 1992....$10   Sights & Sounds.....$21
K-Tracks Sound F/X..$17   Sounds for Windows..$15   Canadian Shareware..$17

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: GENE MILLSAPS                          Number: 8188
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 12/05/93  9:55p
Subj: Incomplete order                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Doug, we appreciate a fairly rapid (week and a half or so) response to our
order, but the shipment does not appear to be complete.  We received the
ordered 5 CD's, some of which included nominal documentation.  Two of the CD
cases had large cracks.

Knowledge Adventure's Dinosaur Adventure came with *No* documentation, though
both a User's Guide and an Addendum are referenced in the readme.doc file.  The
Guide also refers to an explanation of KA.CFG parameters, which would certainly
be helpful, perhaps even indispensable, since our 486 DX2 -66VESA system moves
incredibly slowly in response to mouse actions with this CD software.

The  Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 included a small "Concise Start-Up Guide", which
includes a description of package contents.  The following items are missing
from our package: 1) Microsoft Bookshelf User's Guide 2) Registration card 3)
License agreement

Arthur's Teacher Trouble included only a small guide booklet.  We have Grandma
& Me, and it includes a separate read-along paperback book.  We've since seen
Arthur's in Babbages, and it also includes a book.  We'd like the book please.

Summarizing then, the items we need include: (1) Two replacement CD cases. (2)
User's Guide and an Addendum for Dinosaur Adventure. (3) User's Guide,
Registration card, and License agreement for Microsoft Bookshelf 1993. (4) The
accompanying paperback for Arthur's Teacher Trouble.

We will appreciate you completion of the order.  Thank you.

Gene Millsaps
Ship:172 North Broad Street
Mooresville, NC 28115


Hoping you find your echoes elating . . .
       - Gene
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From: PHILIPS JOHNSON                        Number: 8189
  To: MATTHEW GUDITES                          Date: 12/03/93  8:25a
Subj: Re: Microsoft Bookshelf                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Matthew Gudites to All <=-

 MG> Yo! Does anyone know where to get the newest version of "Microsoft
 MG> Bookshelf" pretty cheap? (I don't have a lot of spending money, and i
 MG> could really use this program.  I am shopping around, trying to find
 MG> out low prices.  Got any ideas?)
 MG> Matthew Gudites


 MG> -!- WM v3.10/92-0699
 MG>  ! Origin: Lightning in a Bottle BBS * NJ * 201-731-7194  (1:2605/104)


Try Free Spirit Software
PO Box 158
109 Pearl St.
Trafalgar, IN  46181
(317) 878-5348

$35 in their latest flyer.


PHIL


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From: PHILIPS JOHNSON                        Number: 8190
  To: WC HILL                                  Date: 12/05/93  2:13p
Subj: Re: cd storage boxes wanted             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Wc Hill to All <=-
 WH> Occasionally I'll get a CD that comes in a cardboard wrapper/cover.
 WH> What I'd like to find is a plastic storage box/device that I can store
 WH> these disks in, individually. Is there anything out there that other
 WH> users have found that works or is available commercially?

Most CD and tape stores (audio) sell the jewell boxes.  Also Wal-Mart has 
a real nice "book" that holds about 8 CD's with a place for the booklets
that costs about 3 or 4 dollars.

PHIL


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From: PHILIPS JOHNSON                        Number: 8191
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 12/05/93  2:13p
Subj: Re: New Catalog                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 GroupWare
 4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd.
 Tacoma, WA 98409

Please send my your latest free catalogue.
       
           PHILIPS JOHNSON
           PSC4   BOX 1626
           APO AA   34004

Thanks,
PHIL



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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 8192
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 12/06/93  5:05p
Subj: Re: cd rom                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <05 Dec 93  00:30:20>, Matt Bedtelyon (1:239/675) writes:

 >  We have a great by on these NEC Model 36 external CD-ROM readers.
 >                   AND THEY ARE DAISY CHAINABLE !!!!!
Care to share with us how these are daisy chainable? I have tried everything 
known to man to get these to daisy chain and can't seem to make it work. I 
have good luck with every other SCSI device but not these. 

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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 8193
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/07/93 12:36a
Subj: Pioneer 600A's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi all,
I have 3 Pioneer 600A left. They are reduced to 759.00 each. First come
first served! We accept M/C, VISA and prepaid. NO COD's for these units!

Call us anytime at:
Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE "Your CD-ROM drive headquarters!"
Voice   (517)892-5518
FAX     (517)892-5965
BBS     (517)892-5042
Fidonet   1:239/675
Internet  bedtelyo@cris.com


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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 8194
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/06/93  8:00p
Subj: Bible CD's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Have a Minister here that is looking for any Cd's, do you have any he
-> may be interested in? If you do please reply, thanks.

Hi, Pat:

I have 3 different titles available.  These are in $CDN, so if you order
these remember your dollar is worth about 30% more than ours.

Bible Lands and Stories:  $62. CDN
Bible Library:             41.
Bibles and Religions:      20.

You can order by VISA (no surcharge).  Call or Fax me at (905) 830-1615.

Regards,

Hayden Bradshaw
HRB Computer Services, Canada
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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 8195
  To: STEPHEN FENNER                           Date: 12/06/93  8:04p
Subj: price list                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hi could you please send me your current price list with
-> descriptions. Thanks

Mind if we send you one, too, Stephen?  We are a Canadian CD-ROM
distributor just outside Toronto.

HRB Computer Services
(905) 830-1615 / 1-800-265-7081 (Orders)
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From: DAVID RYDER                            Number: 8196
  To: RUSTY ATKINS                             Date: 12/06/93 11:10p
Subj: OS/2 2.1 CD-ROM For Sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


RA>Exactly what is this OS/2 for windozes anyway?

    Rusty, it is a version of OS/2 that modifies just enough of the
    Windows 3.1 files to allow windows to operate with OS/2's dos
    emulation.  With it, OS/2 uses your existing Windows 3.1 package and
    setup.

RA>I heard nothing of this software in the magazines. I was just
RA>walking through a local retail store and saw it.... very puzzling.

    I think it is a an interesting idea!   When you purchase a regular
    copy of OS/2, you pay a license fee for the Windows 3.1 code.
    A number of people that owned a copy of Windows already, complained
    about having to pay Microsoft twice for the same code.  IBM responded
    with OS/2 for Windows, and passed along the royalty reduction in a
    reduced price.


   David Ryder * Mississauga, Ontario * 12-06-93   rn.1063@rose.com

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From: JOHN VAN HARE                          Number: 8197
  To: PAT DELIN                                Date: 12/06/93  9:30a
Subj: Re: Magnavox CDD-461                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If it is not sold, call me at 616-467-4197.  I don't have yout original 
posting but I assume you are selling the old slow external Magnavox CDROM
drive.  In one message you said you had a cable for it and in the message 
before you stated that you did not.  Is this a working drive?

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From: JIM WRIGHT                             Number: 8198
  To: GARY KIMBRELL                            Date: 12/04/93 10:12p
Subj: RE: Adult Super Deal!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> > Seedy Six Pac  with over 29,000 gif's plus hundreds of text files.
-> >
-> > This 6 CD set comes factory shrink wrapped with offical seal.
-> >
-> > Complete set including shipping anywhere in the U.S. is only $99.00
-> > (While supply lasts)
->
-> Do you do plastic?
->
-> ---
->  * AmiQWK II 1.0b * Needed badly! 50 to 50 pin (male to male) Centron
-> Cable!
->
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How do you order?


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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8199
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/06/93  7:57a
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices11/23/9                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 On 12-04-93 Mike Shannon wrote to Ronald Leon... 
 
 MS> it.  Actually, a 10% discount on an item necessitates a sales increase 
 MS> of 
 MS> 43% to maintain the same amount of profit. (using a 50% markup as a 
 MS> base) 
 MS> Knocking 20% off a given item requires a sales increase of a whopping 
 MS> 150% 
 MS> to recover, and it progresses geometrically from there. 
 MS> Many a dealer has gone by the "cut 10, increase 10" philosophy, and 
 MS> gone 
 MS> out of business doing so. 
 MS> Just somethin' to think about!  8) 
 MS> Bye, 
 MS> .\\ike 
I hope you just keep thinking that way....... 
I prefer to allow my clients (and 20 years of selling) tell me how to make 
my market. 
 
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8200
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/06/93  8:27a
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices12/06/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM Disc's 
 
          from:     ComputerHelp 
                    PO Box 385041 
                    Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
               Ph:  (612) 890-4750, (800) 514-7071 
                    Fax:  (612) 894-9411 
 
(as of 12/06/93) 
 
"HURRY! HURRY!  SANTA'S COMING!!!!!!! 
 
          SIMTEL MSDOS               $13.00 
          CICA MS Windows            $13.00 
          Hobbes OS/2                $13.00 
          Aminet Amiga               $13.00 
          Garbo MSDOS/Mac            $13.00 
          Sprite OS                  $13.00 
          QRZ! Ham Radio             $13.00 
          ADA Programming            $18.50 
          GIGA Games                 $18.50 
          La Coleccion               $18.50 
          Nova for NeXTs             $18.50 
          Project Gutenberg          $18.50 
          Source Code                $18.50 
          X11/GNU                    $18.50 
          Info-Mac                   $25.50 
          CUG Library                $23.50 
          Linux                      $23.50 
          Libris Britannia           $34.00 
          Space and Astronomy        $18.50 
 
                  ***SPECIAL***SPECIAL***SPECIAL*** 
     =>>> Order 3 at once and take an Extra $1 Off of Each <<<= 
        (Limited Time Offer!!! Print and enclose this ad with 
                your order.  Good through 12/31/93!!!!) 
 
Shipping:      1-3 discs in one order = $4.50, 4-10 discs in one 
order = $6.50. 
          (MN residents add 6.5% sales tax). 
 
          All prices subject to change without notice. 
          "Yes Mildred, we do take personal cheques!" 
 
All orders by pre-payment, (you want cheap prices....); send to 
address above.  Call with any questions.  (Sorry, we don't accept 
credit cards:  they add to the 
    price and we want to be able to offer you the CHEAPEST PRICES 
   AVAILABLE.  "Thank You for Your Support!!!    -  Richard Carter 
                             ORDER FORM 
 
YES!  Please accept my order for: 
 
  Quantity          Item:         Price Each:   Extension: 
     : 
            SIMTEL MSDOS          $13.00 
            CICA MS Windows       $13.00 
            Hobbes OS/2           $13.00 
            Aminet Amiga          $13.00 
            Garbo MSDOS/Mac       $13.00 
            Sprite OS             $13.00 
            QRZ! Ham Radio        $13.00 
            ADA Programming       $18.50 
            GIGA Games            $18.50 
            La Coleccion          $18.50 
            Nova for NeXTs        $18.50 
            Project Gutenberg     $18.50 
            Source Code           $18.50 
            X11/GNU               $18.50 
            Info-Mac              $25.50 
            CUG Library           $23.50 
            Linux                 $23.50 
            Libris Britannia      $34.00 
            Space and Astronomy   $18.50 
                                  SubTotal:     $ 
                                  TX (MN Only)  $ 
                                  Shipping      $ 
                                  TOTAL:        $ 
 
Shipping: $4.50 for 1-3 discs, $6.50 for 4-10 discs, Call for 
quantities 
            larger than 10 discs. 
          If you have an existing FedEX acct and want to charge to 
it, 
          "No Problem!" 
          We Do COD, but only with FedEX, and by Cashiers Cheque 
            (it's expensive, but on large orders it might be worth 
looking at). 
Sales Tax:     MN Only!!  6.5% 
 
We DO Accept Cheques (Personal & Business held for 5 days to clear; 
     Money Orders & Cashiers Cheques ship same day as in stock). 
Call With Any Questions, "We Are Here to Serve Your Needs!"

 
Please Ship TO: 
  Name: 
  Street Address: 
  City:                      State:         Zip: 
  My Home Phone is:  (      ) My Work Phone is:  (      ) 
   (In case we have a question [or 2] regarding your order) 
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From: JEFF HUBERT                            Number: 8201
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/06/93  4:10p
Subj: games and cd-roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Carbon Copy:
 * Original message to ALL in the For Sale - B conference.


 I have the following games and cd-roms for sale.
 All products have original manuals, disks, boxes, etc. and are in excellent 
 condition. Prices are negotiable. Buy more than one product and I'll give 
 you a discount. Call (410) 442-2726 NOW! 

 Product                     | Disk size   |Price | Description
 ----------------------------|-----------|------|-------------------------
 Strike Commander            | 3.5       | $30    Best graphics flight-sim.
                             |           | with sample Origin screen saver 
                             |           | that plays scenes from the game
                             |           |      | 
 Front Page Sports Football  | 3.5+update| $25  | Best football game, with
                             |           |      | update disk
 Tetris(includes tetris TSR) | both      | $9   | tetris,strategy game
 Heart of China(256 color)   | 3.5       | $17  | good adventure game
 Kings Quest 5(256 color)    | 3.5       | $23  | Highly acclaimed adventure 
 Simcity                     | both      | $19  | create,manage your city
 Lemmings                    | 5.25      | $15  | fun strategy game
 Action Sports soccer        | 3.5       | $15  | good soccer game
 Mike Ditka Ultimate football| 5.25      | $19  | 256 color football game
 Ultima 7:The Black Gate     | 3.5       | $23  | very good RPG game
 Wing Commander              | 3.5       | $15  | like X-wing, fly in space 
 Star Control 2              | 3.5       | $25  | space RPG,adventure,action
 Shareware Extravaganza      | 4 CD-ROMS!| $29  | 3 gig of shareware
 Phoenix 4.0                 | CD-ROM    | $15  | NEW!! shareware cd-rom
 Americas Premier Shareware  | CD-ROM    | $15  | good shareware collection
 7th Guest                   | 2 CD-ROMs | $29  | Great adventure, 
                             |           |      | puzzle GAME with 
                             |           |      | "The making of 7th Guest" 
                             |           |      | video.
All shareware cd-roms have a wide variety of files, including GAMES, windows
and dos programs,utils,os/2,clip art,communications, and much more!


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From: MICHAEL GUIDRY                         Number: 8202
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/06/93 10:58p
Subj: Bible Cd's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 05 Dec 93, Pat Rickerson stated to All:

PR>Hello All!
PR>
PR>Have a Minister here that is looking for any Cd's, do you have any
PR>be interested in? If you do please reply, thanks.
PR>
PR>Pat
PR>

I've got The Bible Library containing 9 bibles and 20 reference works.
The bibles are:

American Standard, King James, Living Bible, New International, New King
James, Revised Standard, Simple English Bible, New Testament
Transliteration.

It's not bad, but we've hardly used it. How about $25 and I'll pay the
postage?  If ok, send to:

Michael R. Guidry
Attorney at Law
210 Baronne Street
1424 First NBC Building
New Orleans, LA 70112

[I know, attorney's aren't supposed to be interested in such things.]

My office Phone: (504)-527-0095. I'm not there most of the time, but leave
a message.






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From: MICHAEL GUIDRY                         Number: 8203
  To: PAUL SWIDER                              Date: 12/06/93 10:47p
Subj: Medical Cd's Wanted                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 05 Dec 93, Paul Swider stated to Michael Guidry:

PS>On 12-02-93 Michael Guidry wrote to Paul Swider...
PS>
PS> MG> On 01 Dec 93, Paul Swider stated to Johnny Hudson:
PS>
PS> MG> PS>Johnny, I'm selling a ROM titled Emergency Medicine MEDLINE
PS> MG>
PS> MG> I'll take it if he doesn't.  Just let me know how you want to
PS>the
PS> MG> deal.
PS>
PS> Michael, I waited 5 days and no response from Johnny Hudson so its
PS> Send me $16.50 and I'll send it to you 1st Class Mail after I rece
PS> the money. Send to:  Paul F. Swider 509 Digger St. Las Vegas, Nv.
PS> >Paul<
PS>

You got it.  Just put the check in the envelope with no cover letter
or anything.  Just send it to the office address on the check. Will mail
it first thing in the morning.

Thanks.



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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 8204
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/06/93  6:34a
Subj: CD Review Magzine                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                        CD REVIEW           $11.98


Want to know the latest and greatest CD titles available for your PC?
This bi-monthly publication has it all. All the information you need to help to
decide what CD ROM to purchase or what the hottest programs are. For a one year
subscription, send a check or money order to:

                               C.S.S.
                         1526 Ramblewood Ct.
                          Adrian, MI 49221


For our complete selection of over magazine titles, Freq CSS_MAGS from
1:2470/11 or 1:2470/16.

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From: ANDREW STUDER                          Number: 8205
  To: MICHAEL COLLIER                          Date: 12/05/93 10:26a
Subj: Asian Ladies Warning!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MC> CF>KINDA' SPOILS AN OTHERWISE, PRETTY GOOD DISC, DOESN'T IT. THEY ARE
MC> CF>SLIPPING THE C__KSUCKERS IN EVERYWHERE THESE DAYS--EVEN OUR "PRESIDENT
MC> CF>APPOINTS THEM TO CABINET POSTS!!!! KINDA' MAKES YOU WONDER WHAT HIS
MC> CF>"TRUE COLORS" REALLY ARE DOESN'T IT? LATER,
MC> CF>Cliff
MC> 
MC> 
MC> 
MC>     Someone should make up a disc of Right Wing C__ksuckers and they could
MC> 
MC> call it "FAR RIGHT FAGS" or "SMALL MINDS BIG D__KS!" 
MC> 
MC>     But you know, they'd probably have a problem with finding Right 
MC> Wingers with big enough BALLS . . . Maybe they could could ship along a 
MC> complementary magnification program with the disc.
MC> 
MC>     Just a suggestion . . 

Why are these messages allowed to continue?  I'm a right winged cocksucker and
proud of it.

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From: CHRIS CONKLIN                          Number: 8206
  To: JEAN-LOUIS BONTRONT                      Date: 12/06/93  8:10p
Subj: Education Master CD                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Jean-Louis

   I carry two of these type disc's.  Education Master II which sells for
$20.00 and Education Gameland which sells for $19.00.

  Shipping to Canada should be around $5.00

We are competitive and will do our best to match or beat any prices around!

TTYL

C-3 Production Systems
PO Box 60144
San Angelo, Tx
         76906

915-944-7187



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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 8207
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 12/06/93  5:53p
Subj: Multimedia Audio Collecti               Refer: NONE
Read: 12/08/93  6:50p                       Private: No 

Tim,

Not sure what happened, but I think I may have sent it twice myself or
something... will check it out on another local bbs, and on my boss node.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: CORNELL EYDE                           Number: 8208
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 12/05/93  2:52p
Subj: Re: WANTED...                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Radio Shack had the CDR-1000's onsale a few months ago for $99.95 they are
the older Mitsumis, I have two they work great!! wish I could but some more.


Cornell


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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 8209
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/05/93  7:21p
Subj: Usa today 90's                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

On 12-03-93  01:29 Mike Shannon said something about December cd price$ 3/3, to
which I reply: 

 MS> USA Today: The 90's (New!)....36.00

More info, please! (i.e. type of articles, search capabilities)


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From: MICHAEL HAIP                           Number: 8210
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/07/93 12:52a
Subj: XXX Rated CD Wanted                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone out there want to tell me what the raunchiest cdrom out there is 
and where it can be picked up? Thanks....

P.S. Is anyone out there seeing my messages, I keep posting them but never 
get any replies.  Just trying to find out if there is a problem with the 
bbs.

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From: ANDY BRICK                             Number: 8211
  To: STEVE KRAISLER                           Date: 12/06/93 10:25p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you still got the 7th guest disk I'll take it for $25 and I'll pick up
shipping. Please reply in this echo. Thanks

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8212
  To: RICK BAUER                               Date: 12/05/93  8:42a
Subj: Adult cd's to Trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will offer you $21 shipped for FAO #3 or trade for Storm 1.

Scott raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8213
  To: CASEY ROMANSKI                           Date: 12/05/93  8:43a
Subj: Adult Cds sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Casey,

I am interested in buying Hot Pix #4.  Or would you like to trade
for Amatuer Models cd?

Scott Raley
Fido: 1:2612/104
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8214
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 12/05/93  8:45a
Subj: Cd                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

T&A 2 ThE MaXX  will be shipped to you on Monday, hope to have
yours by Tuesday or Wednesday.

Thanks
Scott
Box 76
Ridge, MD 20680-0076
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8215
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 12/05/93  8:46a
Subj: CD BB for trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have just traded T&A 2 the Maxx but have AMatuer Models cd for
trade for BB vol3 #1 if you would like.

Please reply as soon as possible.

Thanks
scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8216
  To: CARL MONTANTE                            Date: 12/05/93  8:49a
Subj: CD-Rom Disk 4Sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does this have a directory for game hints, cheats and unprotects?
If so I would be interested in it.

Thanks
Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8217
  To: MATT HENDRIX                             Date: 12/05/93  8:50a
Subj: cds                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have RBBS #2, Mega Rom Demo, and Shareware Gold, all up for Best
offer.

thanks
Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8218
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/06/93  7:23a
Subj: cd rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I just want one drive for right now, later if you can't get rid of the rest I
might take them.  Do you have the specs on these and cables,
cards,documentation?
 
Thanks
Scott

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 8219
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/05/93  6:35a
Subj: Blaine Richard                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>the Southern Beauties disc, and if my memory serves me, they list a couple o
LN>phone numbers. I'm sure this can be resolved favorably.

Lee, thanks for the response, I did not know you knew this individual.
Sorry for the outburst but I have not rec a thing from him.  Again I
talked to him on Sat the 5th and again got another promise.  We will
see.  Thanks.

Randy

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From: EDDIE IMPERIAL                         Number: 8220
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/06/93 11:30p
Subj: Re: Bible CD's Wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I HAVE THE KJV BIBLE ON CD. NICE WINDOW TYPE
SCREENS! $25.00

                                      EDDIE
                                      713-437-0124
 -=> Quoting Pat Rickerson to All <=-

 PR> Hello All!

 PR> Have a Minister here that is looking for any Cd's, do you 
 PR> have any he may be interested in? If you do please reply, 
 PR> thanks.

 PR> Pat

 PR> -!- LoraBBS-DOS v2.34-3 (Eval.)
 PR>  ! Origin: Thin Ice  (1:160/9)



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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 8221
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/06/93  2:39p
Subj: User choice Windows CD wa               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can someone give me a good price on the new "User's Choice Windows Archive."
It was recently released and it supposed to be a good disk with about 660meg
on it.

Ron in Tampa
73163.124@compuserve.com
Prodigy: GHBF12B


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From: WAYNE HUNT                             Number: 8222
  To: ILLE! (1:375/56.2)ããã ---                Date: 12/06/93  8:26a
Subj:                                         Refer: NONE
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From: WAYNE HUNT                             Number: 8223
  To:  --- MS-QWIK V3.0 [NR]ã                  Date: 12/06/93  8:26a
Subj:                                         Refer: NONE
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From: WAYNE HUNT                             Number: 8224
  To: --ã                                      Date: 12/06/93  8:26a
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From: WAYNE HUNT                             Number: 8225
  To: ENLIGHTENS,ãDANãã(:-)  TO                Date: 12/06/93  8:26a
Subj: ul, to not try guarentees               Refer: NONE
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From: WAYNE HUNT                             Number: 8226
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/06/93  8:26a
Subj:                                         Refer: NONE
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From: WAYNE HUNT                             Number: 8227
  To: G MAN'S HOLY GRAIL.ã ---ã                Date: 12/06/93  8:26a
Subj:                                         Refer: NONE
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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8228
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 12/03/93  2:39a
Subj: BBSS                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific Bob Jackson postulated to Charlie about BBSS...

 BJ> Thanks, Charlie!

        You are quite welcome. Let me know if I can help you in any way.
        Take care and have a happy holiday.
                                                Charlie


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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8229
  To: PAUL LAUGHLIN                            Date: 12/05/93  7:23p
Subj: CD drive                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CJ> With Interface
 CJ> ----------------
 CJ> Panasonic CR562 (Int/AT-Bus)...........$245.00
 CJ> (340ms Access/300kb Xfer/64k Buffer
 CJ> Photo CD compat.)

        I am not sure this drive is OS/2 compatible or not. All of my
        other less expensive drives are not OS/2 compat. Please see my
        ads in the Commercial For Sale echo for more details. Thanks,

                                                              Charlie


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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8230
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 12/05/93  8:29p
Subj: New Catalog                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific Ismail Arslangiray postulated to All about New Catalog...

 IA> Our new catalog and monthly specials are about to be mailed. If you
 IA> like to receive our catalogs, please contact us via netmail, fax or

 IA> GroupWare

        I haven't gotten any mail from you lately. Isent you a couple of
        folks and have bought tow or three CD's from you so far. Make
        sure you don't forget me....
                                        Charlie


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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8231
  To: CRAIG REILLY                             Date: 12/05/93  7:28p
Subj: Wanted...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific Craig Reilly postulated to All about Wanted......

 CR> Is there anyone trying to sell a CD-ROM Drive for under $100.00
 CR> bucks...I know it is asking for a lot...because they are

        I, personally, would be scared of any new CD drive that could be
        purchased for under $100.00. This kind of cheap is many times
        more expensive in the end....
                                        Charlie


        PS- I sell CD-ROM's, so let me know when you're ready to buy a
        good one.


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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8232
  To: SEAN YOUNG                               Date: 12/05/93  7:29p
Subj: Good Deals                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific Sean Young postulated to All about Good Deals...

 SY> Does anyone know where I can get a good deal on a CD-ROM? If you do
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
Bare
------
NEC CDR-84 (Ext/SCSI)..................$309.00
   (280ms Access/300kb Xfer/64k Buffer
    Photo CD compat.)

Texel DM3028 (Int/SCSI II).............$359.00
   (240ms Access/335kb Xfer/64k Buffer
    Photo CD compat., Multisession)

Teac CD-50 (Int/SCSI II)...............$365.00
   (265ms Access/365kb Xfer/64k Buffer
    Photo CD compat., Multisession)

Sony CDU561 (Int/SCSI II)..............$349.00
   (265ms Access/330kb Xfer/256k Buffer
    Photo CD compat., Multisession)

Toshiba 3401B (Int/SCSI II)............$389.00 <-- IBM lists as BEST
   (200ms Access/330kb Xfer/256k Buffer            drive for use w/ OS/2
    Photo CD compat., Multisession)

  * Trantor T-130 8-bit SCSI host interface....$55.00
    Soundblaster and others available...

With Interface
----------------
Panasonic CR522 (Int/AT-Bus)...........$205.00
   (380ms Access/150kb Xfer/64k Buffer
    Photo CD compat.)

Sony CDU31A (Int/AT-Bus)...............$199.00 <-- LOW price!
   (370ms Access/300kb Xfer/64k Buffer
    Photo CD compat., Mulitsession)

Panasonic CR562 (Int/AT-Bus)...........$245.00
   (340ms Access/300kb Xfer/64k Buffer
    Photo CD compat.)

                                        Charlie


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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8233
  To: BRUCE NUNNALLY                           Date: 12/05/93  7:40p
Subj: Learning to speak German by Hyperglot   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific Bruce Nunnally postulated to All about Learning to speak German by

 BN> I am looking for a US dealer for the Hyperglot
 BN> CDROM Learning to Speak German.

        Bruce, I am not familiar with Hyperglot, but I do have Timeworks
        Translate it! (German) for $79.00 and Globalink's Professional
        Translator for $489.00.
        I don't know if these are even close to what you want, but I
        thought I'd let you know....
                                      Charlie

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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8234
  To: BRYAN COTTER                             Date: 12/05/93  8:22p
Subj: CD Recorder                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific Bryan Cotter postulated to All about CD Recorder...

 BC> Anyone got a good price on a CD Recorder?  Looking for possibly a
 BC> Philips... Saw them in Computer Shopper for $3999 I think...  What ya

        That was $4999 and I replied to you in the Commercial For Sale
        echo as my reply here would be off-topic. Thanks for looking
        over there.
                        Charlie


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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8235
  To: NISSE HAAK                               Date: 12/05/93  8:37p
Subj: Buying a CD-ROM                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific Nisse Haak postulated to All about Buying a CD-ROM...

 NH> So, my question is:

 NH> If You were to start all over again, what sort of things do I need to
 NH> look for. Dual Speed, KODAK Photo compability, External or Internal, ?,

        Well, had I to do it all again, I would have bought a double
        spin internal with a 300ms or better access time. My CDU-535 is
        no piece of junk, but I would like one that is a little faster.
        BTW, all anyone here can give you is opinion or cold hard data--
        "best" is a perception. :) I would mkae sure to got Photo CD
        capable (but you'll only need it if you use that kind of
        disc/software).
        The things I think you should ask YOURself are:

        1) What will I use the drive for the majority of the time?
        2) Will it make any diff if it's dbl spin or not?
        3) Do I have an extra bay open?
        4) Do I have an extra slot free?
        5) How much do I have to spend?

        Once you answer those questions (or the ones you think are
        important), let me know and I'll help you find what ever drive
        you decide on. I have quite a few to choose from and good prices
        to go along with them.

 NH> Thanks for Your assistance..

        Well, that's my .02 worth....
                                      Charlie

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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8236
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/05/93  8:39p
Subj: CD-ROM DIRECTORY ON CD!                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

The prolific Mike Shannon postulated to All about CD-ROM DIRECTORY ON CD!...

 MS> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892

        Mike, I see most of the other vendors are allowing trades for
        the infected NOv10 disc, but have seen nothing from you.

        I also read in another conference that you knew of the virus
        latent files and still sold the disc. I would hate to think
        you'd do this. So, please tell me what's up.

                                                Charlie


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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8237
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/05/93 11:04p
Subj: CD's/CD discs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        CD-ROM drives
       ---------------
Bare
------
NEC CDR-84 (Ext/SCSI)..................$309.00
   (280ms Access/300kb Xfer/64k Buffer
    Photo CD compat.)

Texel DM3028 (Int/SCSI II).............$359.00
   (240ms Access/335kb Xfer/64k Buffer
    Photo CD compat., Multisession)

Teac CD-50 (Int/SCSI II)...............$365.00
   (265ms Access/365kb Xfer/64k Buffer
    Photo CD compat., Multisession)

Sony CDU561 (Int/SCSI II)..............$349.00
   (265ms Access/330kb Xfer/256k Buffer
    Photo CD compat., Multisession)

Toshiba 3401B (Int/SCSI II)............$389.00 <-- IBM lists as BEST
   (200ms Access/330kb Xfer/256k Buffer            drive for use w/ OS/2
    Photo CD compat., Multisession)

  * Trantor T-130 8-bit SCSI host interface....$55.00
    Soundblaster and others available...

With Interface
----------------
Panasonic CR522 (Int/AT-Bus)...........$205.00
   (380ms Access/150kb Xfer/64k Buffer
    Photo CD compat.)

Sony CDU31A (Int/AT-Bus)...............$199.00 <-- LOW price!
   (370ms Access/300kb Xfer/64k Buffer
    Photo CD compat., Mulitsession)

Panasonic CR562 (Int/AT-Bus)...........$245.00
   (340ms Access/300kb Xfer/64k Buffer
    Photo CD compat.)

                        CD-ROM
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ADA Programming.....$22        Aminet Amiga............$16
Animals MPC.........$22        Beauty & the Beast......$17
CICA MS Windows.....$15        C Users Group Library...$25
Dr. Games...........$16        Dr. Music...............$16
Dr. Shareware.......$16        Dr. Windows.............$16
Family Doctor.......$24        Fontmaster II...........$20
Garbo MS-DOS/MAC....$15        GIGA Games..............$23
Hobbes OS/2.........$15        Info-Mac................$29
La Coleccion........$22        Libris Britannia........$36
Linux...............$27        NOVA for NeXTs..........$22
Project Gutenberg...$20        QRZ! HAM Radio..........$15
Shareware '93.......$24        Shareware Gold II Vol 2.$29
Simtel 20 MS-DOS....$16        So Much Shareware III...$24
Source Code.........$20        Sprite OS...............$16
WIN Shareware Gold2.$28        X11/GNU.................$23

NEW!
Computer Reference Library...........$15
Computer Home & Office Legal Guide...$16
Clipart Warehouse....................$15
Gardening............................$14

* Games and over 350 CD titles also available *
       More MAC titles also available

OS/2 for Windwos (CD-ROM)................$55.00

  Other software solutions are available. If you don't see what you
  want on this list, let me know what you need and I'll get it for you.

                                                Charlie

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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 8238
  To: RALPH OFFREDO                            Date: 12/02/93 11:24a
Subj: Re: ADULT CDS SALE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 2 Dec 93 12:13pm, Ralph Offredo wrote to Ken Matthews:

>     Ken, am intrested in your cd sales, anymore titles? give me a call at

Thanks everything is sold..

Happy Holidays To All...

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From: JIM KRUSZYNSKI                         Number: 8239
  To: ALL DEALERS                              Date: 12/07/93  4:44p
Subj: CD ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am in the market to buy a new double speed CD ROM drive and disks.
All dealers please send me your latest price list or catalog.
Please send to:
Jim Kruszynski
7258 Conley St.
Balto. Md. 21224

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From: LINDA SOLOMON                          Number: 8240
  To: RICK PEDLEY                              Date: 12/06/93 10:47p
Subj: Popular Titles                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to Leo Mulvihill, Rick Pedley said:
 > LM> If you accept here is my MC # ****-****-****-**** exp */**

 > Leo, this isn't a good idea. The ripoff artist rents a postal
 > box under your name, orders a bunch of stuff by phone and has
 > it sent to that PO Box address, and within a week empties the
 > box and dis- appears without a trace.

 > Rick

 >  * DeLuxe2 1.26b #8591 *

 > --- InterPCB 1.52
 >  * Origin: CrossRoads * Kingston, Ont. Canada (1:249/1)
Yes, please do not put your PO Box or credit card numbers anywhere where you
do not want others to use them.  I work for a major Visa/Mastercard Company
and we always tell people to never give their credit card number over the
phone unless they KNOW it is a reputable company.  Please be careful or you
could find yourself totally maxed out on your card before you even know it. 
Most times, customers do not realize their card is maxed out until they either
try to use it and find out their account is overlimit or get their statement
with hoards of charges on their account they do not recognize.  There are 
many dishonest people out there that make this type of thing their vocation
and make great money at it.  Most times they are a fraud ring that is very
professional at this. Please be careful.
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From: KEITH LOONEY                           Number: 8241
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 12/07/93 11:16a
Subj: Re: cd rom                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Matt, I bought one of the nec36 drives a couple of weeks ago. I've
been trying to get a manual and a mac driver for it with no luck.
Everytime I call NEC I get shifted around to other departments and
have already been on the phone 1/2 hours at a time. Can you help me
with my problem?

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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 8242
  To: PAUL SWIDER                              Date: 12/08/93  8:54a
Subj: Medical CD's Wanted                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Paul - thanks for the response.  If it falls through, my offer stands.  Jerry

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From: CASEY ROMANSKI                         Number: 8243
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/07/93  5:25p
Subj: Adult Cds sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

--> Casey Romanski Quotes a message written by Scott Raley
--> to Casey Romanski on 12-05-93 08:43 saying:
SR> Casey,
SR> 
SR> I am interested in buying Hot Pix #4.  Or would you like to tr
SR> for Amatuer Models cd?
SR> 

I may be interested in trading. Could you send or can I somehow get the
directory listings? I would like to review the contents first. Also does it
contain listings for a BBS  (files.bbs or any importable format)? 





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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8244
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/06/93 11:30p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1/3                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 December 1993           DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST      Last update: 12/06
 **************************************************************************
                                   1 of 3
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<
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 Shopping for the best prices?  Of course, but who wants to order from nine
 different dealers just to get the lowest price on all the titles you want!
 Let us be your One-Stop CD Dealer!  Shop around for the best prices on the
 CD's you need, then give us a call!  We'll do everything we can to get you
 the LOWEST OVERALL price possible, whether it's on one CDROM or 1000!  And
 with 350 titles IN STOCK, we can fill your whole order today!  Call us!!!!
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 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50
 20th Century Sports (New!)....29.00    Mayo Clinic MPC...............26.00
 20th Century Video Almanac....29.00    Mega Clipart..................27.00
 7th Guest.....................39.00    Microsoft Bookshelf 1992 MPC..35.00
 9-Digit Zip Code Guide (New!).32.00    Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..49.00
 9000 Sounds (New!)............25.00    Microsoft Cinemania 1993 MPC..55.00
 A.S.P. Shareware (New!).......22.00    Microsoft Cinemania 1994 MPC..59.00
 Action Traveler (New!)........29.00    Microsoft Encarta 1994........98.00
 Adventures in Heaven (New!)...19.00    Microsoft Golf MPC............48.50
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...25.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........49.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........35.00    Middle East Diary.............35.00
 American Business Phonebk 91..17.00    MIDI Music Shop...............26.50
 American Business Phonebk 93..25.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50
 Aminet Amiga..................15.00    Monarch Notes.................48.00
 Anecdotes 1...................14.50    Monster Media 93 vol 2 (New!).29.00
 Anecdotes 2...................14.50    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Anecdotes 3...................14.50    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......19.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....18.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....22.00    Multimedia Magic Collection...28.00
 Arizona Images (New!).........25.00    National Geographic Mammals...24.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    National Parks................24.50
 Audubon's Birds...............23.00    Newsweek Interactive (New!)...26.50
 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Battle Chess..................25.00    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........25.00    Night Owl 8.0.................24.00
 Beyond the Wall of Stars......24.50    Night Owl 9.0.................25.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl 10.0................29.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Britannica Family Choice......28.50    Night Owl Games (New!)........29.00
 Britannica Select Software....28.50    Night Owl Graphics............29.00
 Business Assistant............13.00    North American Fax Book.......32.50
 Business Master...............20.00    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 C User's Group Library........29.00    OS/2Box.......................25.00
 Canadian Shareware............19.00    Our Solar System..............13.00
 Career Opportunities..........26.00    PC Gameroom...................24.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC Karaoke w/ Microphone......68.00
 CD Powerbox ($6 w/ any order).15.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....27.00
 CD Winbox 1.01................24.00    PC-SIG 12.....................19.00
 CD-ROM of CD-ROMs ($9 w/ ord).29.00    PC-SIG Windows (New!).........19.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Pentomino.....................23.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Peter and the Wolf............25.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phoenix 4.0...................18.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phoenix Phun & Games..........15.00
 Clipart Galore................22.50    Phonedisc USA.................69.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 2........................24.00
 Clipart Heaven................25.00    Pier 3 (In Stock!)............29.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00    Pier 2/3 Pak..................49.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    Pinacotheca Multimedia........24.00
 Companion for Windows (New!)..23.50    Pixel Garden..................34.00
 Companion for WordPerfect.....23.50    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Composer Quest................33.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0.............13.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency....89.00    Precision Mapping.............68.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....64.00    Prescription Drugs............27.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....64.00    Profiles of Colleges..........29.50

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8245
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/06/93 11:30p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 2/3                   Refer: NONE
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                                   2 of 3
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Computer Reference Library....13.00    Project Gutenberg (New!)......22.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....34.50    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak...........98.00
 Cookbook Heaven...............23.00    ProPhone 1993 Business........29.00
 CorelDraw 3.0.................79.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Cybergenic Ranger.............19.50    Publish-It 2.0................25.00
 Dagger of Amon Ra.............32.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........35.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Publisher's Powerhouse (New!).29.00
 Dare, Bluff, or Die (New!)....29.00    Q&A 4.0.......................39.00
 Day of the Tentacle...........44.50    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Reader's Library..............20.50
 Desert Storm..................33.50    Reel Clips....................25.00
 Desktop Bookshop..............21.50    Reference Library ............24.50
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Return to Zork (New!).........50.00
 Dictionary of Living World....32.50    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...37.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............33.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
 Dinosaurs!....................33.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
 Dr. Games.....................20.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
 Dr. Music.....................20.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Dr. Shareware.................20.00    Shareware 1993 vol 2 (New!)...20.00
 Dr. Windows...................20.00    Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......49.00
 DTPro.........................26.50    Shareware Online 1............19.00
 Dune (New!)...................39.00    Shareware Online 2............29.00
 Ecoquest......................27.50    Shareware Overload............13.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Studio 1............19.00
 Electronic Cookbook...........29.00    Shareware Studio 2............23.00
 Electronic Home Library.......29.00    Shareware Studio 3............25.00
 Electronic Library of Art.....39.50    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...49.00
 European Monarchs.............35.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...49.00
 Family Doctor.................26.00    Sights & Sounds...............22.50
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......26.50    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Firearms Reference (New!).....24.00    Sleeping Beauty (New!)........25.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    So Much Screenware............27.50
 Font Master 2.................26.00    So Much Shareware 2...........19.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....25.00
 Fractunes (New!)..............30.00    So Much Space (New!)..........24.00
 Fresh Arte....................34.00    Software Vault 1..............19.00
 Funny (New!)..................33.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....19.00
 Game Arena....................13.00    Software Vault Gold (New!)....25.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Solar Heaven (New!)...........23.00
 Game Pack 2...................18.00    Sound Effects Library.........19.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Games Collection (New!).......26.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Gameware Collection...........24.00    Soundware Collection..........24.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.00    SoundWAV......................25.00
 Gardening (New!)..............13.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 GIF Galaxy (New!).............24.00    Space & Astronomy (New!)......27.00
 GIF's Galore 9/93.............16.50    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Giga Games....................23.00    Space Quest IV................19.00
 Global Explorer...............85.00    Space Shuttle (New!)..........25.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Space Time and Art (New!).....34.50
 Grammy Awards.................36.00    Sporting News.................24.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Stellar 7.....................19.50

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8246
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/06/93 11:30p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 3/3                   Refer: NONE
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Straight from Heaven (New!)...19.00
 Great Wonders of the World....42.00    Street Atlas USA v2...........94.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency 6.0 (New!).45.00    STW Illustrated Encyclopedia..34.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...23.00    STW Multimedia Encyclopedia...44.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 93...29.00    STW MPC Encyclopedia..........44.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............25.00    Super Games For Windows.......10.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........35.50
 Hamware 1993..................23.00    Tech Arsenal (New!)...........21.50
 Health & Medical Directory....27.50    Technotools...................13.00
 Hobbes OS/2 10/93.............16.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..19.00
 Hollywood the Bizarre (New!)..39.50    Terrorist Group Profiles......35.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Home Designer (New!)..........29.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Home/Business Legal Guide.....13.00    Timetable of Business/Politic.26.00
 Horror & Sci-Fi Films (New!)..39.50    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 House of Games................18.50    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Images of NASA (New!).........25.00    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.00
 Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00    Total Baseball 1992...........24.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Total Baseball 1993 (New!)....28.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Total Heart by Mayo Clinic....49.00
 Interactive Story Time 3......29.00    Trump Castle..................28.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    U.S./World Atlas MPC..........25.00
 Int'l Graphics Library........27.50    U.S. Atlas MPC................23.00
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....29.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........39.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 Jets & Props..................28.50    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Jewel Cases....................1.00    U.S. Wars: Civil War..........34.00
 Jokes & Pranks................13.00    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............39.00    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............34.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Wars: WWII...............34.00
 King's Quest V................20.00    USA Today: The 90's (New!)....36.00
 King's Quest VI (Retail Box)..39.00    VGA Spectrum 1................13.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........19.00    Wave Pool (New!)..............19.00
 La Colleccion (Spanish S/W)...22.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Lan Master....................25.00    Wildcat Gold..................20.50
 Languages of the World........37.00    Win Platinum..................24.00
 Learning Adventure............13.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Learning Heaven (New!)........19.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 Library of the Future #1......39.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Libris Britannia..............34.00    Windows Collection (New!).....26.00
 Linux (New!)..................27.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Loom..........................19.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...29.00    World Atlas MPC...............23.00
 Mac Shareware.................19.00    World Fact Book M/M...........23.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........29.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Macromind Action..............35.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mad Dog McCree (New!).........39.00    World Traveler................13.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    World View....................24.00
 Majestic Places...............38.50    World Vision 3-Pak............39.00
 Mantis........................24.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..25.00    X11R5/GNU.....................24.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8247
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/06/93 11:30p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
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 **************************************************************************
 December 1993        SOFTCORE ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST   Last update: 12/06
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
 Amateur Models................34.00    High Volume Nudes.............36.50
 American Girls (New!).........34.00    L.A. Strippers (Movie)........49.00
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......29.00    Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......48.00    Photo Gallery (New!)..........34.00
 Digital Dreams................28.00    Southern Beauties.............33.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Girls of Mardi Gras (New!)....43.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: JEFF RUNNELS                           Number: 8248
  To: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                         Date: 12/07/93 12:21p
Subj: Re: CD's for Sale                       Refer: NONE
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Do you still have the shareware cd for sale?  I would be interested in it for
the price of $10.  Leave me a message or call 658-8390 (5 pm - 10 pm) or
week-ends.  

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From: CHRIS CONKLIN                          Number: 8249
  To: CHUCK SILVA                              Date: 12/07/93  4:38p
Subj: CD ROM Catalogs                         Refer: NONE
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Hello Fellow Texan

    Your one stop catalog is on its way from C-3 Production Systems in
San Angelo, Tx.....


TTYL


915-944-7187


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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8250
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/07/93  9:22a
Subj: New Cdrom Products!!!!                  Refer: NONE
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>ComputerHelp is Happy to Announce We Are Currently< 
>Offering EMS Professional Software's CRDOM Discs!!!< 
 
If you are PC-based or Windows-based and Have Liked the 
Shareware & Utility CDROM Discs on the Market, We Believe 
You Will Really See Added Value in These Discs!!!  "WE DO!!!!" 
 
EMS Has Changed Their Format Recently and Made Their Discs 
Much More User Friendly.  We Don't Want To Take Too Much 
Space Here, But the EMS 2-Disc Set is $59.95 + shipping. 
 
If You Are Curious About the Discs, We Have a SPECIAL For YOU!!! 
We Have Sampler Single Disks (that are 1 rev -- or about 
2 months -- old).  They are the discs only, without the indexes, 
COMPLETELY FUNCTIONAL AND WITH ALL THE DATA!!! 
 
They include 
They include utilities and programs covering:  ASM, C, C++, 
AutoCAD, Xbase, DOS, Games, Hardware Demos, HomePC, Jokes, 
Multimedia, Netware, ObjectVision, Quick Basic, Paradox, 
Small Business, TrueType Fonts, TurboPascal, Visual Basic, 
Windows, and a PC Products Database. 
 
Personally, this disc has been a real resource for us in our 
computer room.  (Previously, it was just the way they handled 
their indexing that bothered us.)  They have changed that in the 
Current versions.  Remember, the Full-Fledged current versions 
are Currently $59.95 from EMS; Our Sale Price is $49.95. 
THESE VERY SPECIAL SINGLE DISC SAMPLERS ARE ON SALE FOR $12, 
INCLUDING SHIPPING! 
 
There are about 150 of these Sampler Single Discs currently available. 
 
As always, If You are Not Happy With Any Product from Us, We 
Will Take it Back within 30-days of date of purchase.  Your only 
expense would be freight/shipping. 
 
"WE WANT YOU HAPPY AND TO COME BACK THE NEXT TIME YOU ARE IN THE MARKET!" 
 
Thanks, 
Richard Carter 
___----------------------      ------------------      -------------------- 
 
 
            Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM Disc's 
 
          from:     ComputerHelp 
                    PO Box 385041 
                    Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
               Ph:  (612) 890-4750, (800) 514-7071 
                    Fax:  (612) 894-9411 
 
(as of 12/02/93) 
          SIMTEL MSDOS               $13.00 
          CICA MS Windows            $13.00 
          Hobbes OS/2                $13.00 
          Aminet Amiga               $13.00 
          Garbo MSDOS/Mac            $13.00 
          Sprite OS                  $13.00 
          QRZ! Ham Radio             $13.00

          ADA Programming            $18.50 
          GIGA Games                 $18.50 
          La Coleccion               $18.50 
          Nova for NeXTs             $18.50 
          Project Gutenberg          $18.50 
          Source Code                $18.50 
          X11/GNU                    $18.50 
          Info-Mac                   $25.50 
          CUG Library                $23.50 
          Linux                      $23.50 
          Libris Britannia           $34.00 
          Space and Astronomy        $18.50 
 
                  ***SPECIAL***SPECIAL***SPECIAL*** 
     =>>> Order 3 at once and take an Extra $1 Off of Each <<<= 
        (Limited Time Offer!!! Print and enclose this ad with 
                your order.  Good through 12/31/93!!!!) 
 
Shipping:      1-3 discs in one order = $4.50, 4-10 discs in one 
order = $6.50. 
          (MN residents add 6.5% sales tax). 
 
          All prices subject to change without notice. 
          "Yes Mildred, we do take personal cheques!" 
 
All orders by pre-payment, (you want cheap prices....); send to 
address above.  Call with any questions.  (Sorry, we don't accept 
credit cards:  they add to the 
    price and we want to be able to offer you the CHEAPEST PRICES 
   AVAILABLE.  "Thank You for Your Support!!!    -  Richard Carter 
                             ORDER FORM 
 
YES!  Please accept my order for: 
 
  Quantity          Item:         Price Each:   Extension: 
     : 
            SIMTEL MSDOS          $13.00 
            CICA MS Windows       $13.00 
            Hobbes OS/2           $13.00 
            Aminet Amiga          $13.00 
            Garbo MSDOS/Mac       $13.00 
            Sprite OS             $13.00 
            QRZ! Ham Radio        $13.00 
            ADA Programming       $18.50 
            GIGA Games            $18.50 
            La Coleccion          $18.50 
            Nova for NeXTs        $18.50 
            Project Gutenberg     $18.50 
            Source Code           $18.50 
            X11/GNU               $18.50 
            Info-Mac              $25.50 
            CUG Library           $23.50 
            Linux                 $23.50 
            Libris Britannia      $34.00 
            Space and Astronomy   $18.50 
            EMS 1-Disc SAMPLER    $12.00 ** 
                                  SubTotal:     $ 
                                  TX (MN Only)  $ 
                                  Shipping      $ 
                                  TOTAL:        $ 
 
Shipping: $4.50 for 1-3 discs, $6.50 for 4-10 discs, Call for 
           quantities larger than 10 discs. 
           ** No Shipping Charges on the EMS Sampler! 
          If you have an existing FedEX acct and want to charge to 
           it,  "No Problem!" 
          We Do COD, but only with FedEX, and by Cashiers Cheque 
           (it's expensive, but on large orders it might be worth 
           looking at). 
 
Sales Tax:     MN Only!!  6.5% 
 
We DO Accept Cheques (Personal & Business held for 5 days to clear; 
     Money Orders & Cashiers Cheques ship same day as in stock). 
 
Call With Any Questions, "We Are Here to Serve Your Needs!" 
 
Please Ship TO: 
  Name: 
  Street Address: 
  City:                      State:         Zip: 
  My Home Phone is:  (      ) My Work Phone is:  (      ) 
   (In case we have a question [or 2] regarding your order) 
___ 


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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8251
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/07/93  9:22a
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 8252
  To: JEFF HUBERT                              Date: 12/07/93  8:22a
Subj: games and cd-roms                       Refer: NONE
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Hello Jeff!

Monday December 06 1993, Jeff Hubert writes to All:

 JH> Extravaganza | 4 CD-ROMS!| $29
 JH> Phoenix 4.0  | CD-ROM    | $15
 JH> Americas Premier Shareware  | CD-ROM | $15
 JH> 2 CD-ROMs | $29  | Great adventure, |

Want these CD's if you still have them. please reply. Do you do COD? If you do
please send them to
411 Ninth St. NAS
Corpus Christi, Tx 78412
Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 8253
  To: MICHAEL GUIDRY                           Date: 12/07/93  8:30a
Subj: Bible Cd's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
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Hello Michael!

Monday December 06 1993, Michael Guidry writes to Pat Rickerson:

 MG> On 05 Dec 93, Pat Rickerson stated to All:

 PR>> Hello All!
 PR>>
 PR>> Have a Minister here that is looking for any Cd's, do you have any
 PR>> be interested in? If you do please reply, thanks.
 PR>>
 PR>> Pat
 PR>>

 MG> I've got The Bible Library containing 9 bibles and 20 reference works.
 MG> The bibles are:

 MG> American Standard, King James, Living Bible, New International, New King
 MG> James, Revised Standard, Simple English Bible, New Testament
 MG> Transliteration.

 MG> It's not bad, but we've hardly used it. How about $25 and I'll pay the
 MG> postage?  If ok, send to:

 MG> Michael R. Guidry
 MG> Attorney at Law
 MG> 210 Baronne Street
 MG> 1424 First NBC Building
 MG> New Orleans, LA 70112

Thanks for the reply but the guy found one already
Pat

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From: ART MARKO                              Number: 8254
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/02/93  1:34a
Subj: CD'S 4 SALE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROMS for sale
The New Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia;WIN/Vers 1.5 - $38
(NOT OEM, with docs, registration card)
Microsoft Cinemania 1992 - $30
Newsweek Interactive MM Vol 1 Issue 1 (Mending The Earth);DOS - $20
Mario Is Missing;CD ROM DeLuxe - $24


STORM 1 (XXX) - $22
My Private Collection 1 (XXX) - $21
My Private Collection 2 (XXX) - $21


Shipping $3.00
No COD's, will UPS, insured (trades considered for XXX only)
Call days 908-545-3004
Art Marko
2 Oak St
New Brunswick NJ 08901

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From: ART MARKO                              Number: 8255
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 12/02/93  2:04a
Subj: ADULT CDS SALE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KM>Visual Fantasies
  >Total Fantasy
  >PC Pix 1

KM>25 dollars each + shipping or even trade for other CD's adult or not!


Will trade for Visual Fantasies
any of the following
My Private Collection 1 or 2
FAO 2
Storm 1
XXX Extreme

Art Marko
908-545-3004 (days)
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From: GORDON FLETCHER                        Number: 8256
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 12/05/93 10:15a
Subj: NIGHT OWL                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CB>Any further word on the status of Night Owl? Are they going to make it throu
  >the legal battle you mentioned earlier? What are they being sued for?
Chris, I had NO-10 but returned it for an exchange. As far as the legal
battle is concerned, I know nothing. Perhaps your message was intended
for someone else!
Fletch.
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From: MARK SCHAUB                            Number: 8257
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 12/07/93 11:58p
Subj: New Catalog                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Please send my your latest free catalogue.

Mark Schaub
1139 Aspenwood Dr.
Akron OH 44333-1089

Mark Schaub

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8258
  To: BILL ENGLISH                             Date: 11/23/93  6:45p
Subj: CD WANTED                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I seen a CD in the Multimedia Edition Called "MACMILLAN DICTIONARY FOR
>CHILDREN" Has anyone Got this Disk for sale?

 I've sold one or two of those....

>If So please let me know how much and where to send the Money to.

 I saw that you were FPO San Francisco in another message - IF the shipping to
an FPO address is comparable to what I would pay for shipping to a "regular"
San Francicso address (it used to be the same, back when I was in the Navy),
then see my ad in CFORSALE or CDROM_SALE for details of where to send
check/money order and pricing and such.


 * SLMR 2.1a * To discover proper respect for authority, ask any Cat....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8259
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 11/23/93  6:48p
Subj: VIRUS! IN NIGHTOWL-10 CD                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

>I'm not saying that is the case with Night Owl's, but it does make one wonder.

 Considering that the version of Scan that was current AS OF THE DATE NO10
SHIPPED (much less the date it had to have been sent to the presser) did NOT
detect the pair of viruses that the version 108 Scan has found (108 WAS
released after NO10), why does it "make one wonder"?


 * SLMR 2.1a * I believe in an individual's freedom to be happy.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8260
  To: JEFF CLAGGETT                            Date: 11/23/93  6:52p
Subj: MITSUMI 2X SPIN                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>The guy writing the driver just plane and simple did not have
>one of these drives available to use for developement.

The odds are good that a driver that supports the LU005 will work with the
LU002, just SLOWER....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Catifornia (n): The Sunshine State for Cats.

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 8261
  To: JERRY JOHNSON                            Date: 12/06/93  7:22a
Subj: CD Trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 03 Dec 93  10:14:00, I heard Jerry Johnson shout to All:

JJ> I have a copy of Animated Fantasies adult cd for trade.  It is all .gl and
JJ> .fli files.   I am looking for Busty Babes (any version) asian ladies,
JJ> storm(1,2,3) fao, or whatever else you might have to offer. Respond here. 
JJ> Thanks.
JJ> 
JJ>                 Jerry

Jerry,

  I have a copy of BB #1 the revised version, Will trade you for your Disk  ??
 How many Megs is it ?

 If Interested send your disk to:

Kevin Plummer
1355 Clore Drive 
Martinsville,In 46151  I will ship this one the same day.
 (317) 342-2034

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From: SERGIO                                 Number: 8262
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/04/93  4:18p
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

| For Sale
| --------
|
| CD-ROM [3 CD, 1 is Shareware]
|       MSCDEX 2.21 and Music CD player.
|       Installed for free. (IN FORT WAYNE AREA)
|       $350 FOR ALL
|       AND A HAND SCANNER FOR FREE !!!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8263
  To: ANISH ACHARYA                            Date: 11/24/93  3:08p
Subj: NITEOWL                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>       I am looking for a copy of NiteOwl 10 (or 11 if it's out).  I saw it
>       in this echo for $10 several times.

 Ismael was running some sort of a deal on Night Owl 10 at $20 - I have NEVER
seen it at $10 here (or ANYWHERE else). Also, his deal appears to have been a
pre-release special....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Bagpipe (n): Flute designed to Government specifications.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8264
  To: BOB BOSS                                 Date: 11/30/93  1:34a
Subj: NOTICE                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Oh well on to the Pioneer 6-CD changer dual-spin unit, huh?

No such thing - the DRM-604X is a QUAD spin unit, and the first on the market
by about a year (SO FAR)....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Everything I need to know, I learned from my cat.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8265
  To: DAVID SARKOZI                            Date: 11/30/93  1:39a
Subj: AUDUBON'S BIRDS                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Does anyone still have Audubon's Birds of North America for sale?

 $18, shipping included to the U.S. if prepaid.

 Brice's Library
 5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
 Indianapolis, IN 46220

 (317) 726-1980  (11AM - 8PM Tu Th   11AM - 6PM We Fr  EST)


 * SLMR 2.1a * I have the heart of a Liberal....in a jar on my desk!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8266
  To: JIM HILGEFORD                            Date: 11/30/93  1:55p
Subj: HOBBES 10/93??                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>       I was quoted $16.oo Plus $5.00 freight. Seem reasonable to me

 Seems very HIGH to me - I have the 10/93 Hobbs (looking at one right now) for
$14, shipping INCLUDED if prepaid to U.S. addresses.


 * SLMR 2.1a * I don't do Mornings OR Windoze....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8267
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 11/30/93  2:01p
Subj: BUSTY BABES VOLUME II                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Geesh, how good could some gal at 37 be ?

 Not meaning to sound insulting, but Raquel Welsh and Jane Fonda/Turner are
both a bit over 37, and I've got an aunt in their same age range that still is
quite pretty....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Will Rogers never met Bill Clinton OR Al Gore....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8268
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 11/30/93 11:02p
Subj: SO MUCH MODEM MADNESS CD-               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>how much for this disk????

 So Much Modem Madness will be $30 on my next price list, as I recall (I coule
be 1-2 dollars off)....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Windows - not even MONGO wants it!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8269
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 11/30/93 11:06p
Subj: CD?                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> > The new "Star Trek Collectibles" CD has been selling well however, but I
> > think it focuses mainly on the old series and the movies.

>Okay, I had a feeling you would say this

 May focus on the older stuff, but it DOES got into the Next Generation at
least somewhat....


 * SLMR 2.1a * People used to get rid of viruses - now they BUY Windows!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8270
  To: MATTHEW GUDITES                          Date: 11/30/93 11:07p
Subj: MICROSOFT BOOKSHELF                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Yo! Does anyone know where to get the newest version of "Microsoft Bookshelf"
>pretty cheap?

 See my next price list - mid-$30s....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Annoy a Liberal - demand that they tell the Truth!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8271
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 12/01/93 11:23a
Subj: ***ADULT CD-TITLES***                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>  FidoNet: 1:157/479
>  KesherNet: 18:711/176

 Please note that this part formats correctly.

>  19.00 Local Girls                                      a      19.00 T & A 2
>the Maxx                                 a      19.98 Hacker Whacker Fun Pack
>                       a      21.00 Phone Sex

Please note that this part is still not formatting correctly.


 * SLMR 2.1a * God created Cats to help men learn to understand women...

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8272
  To: JEFF BAKALCHUCK                          Date: 12/01/93 11:25a
Subj: CDROM PRICES 4 OF 5                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>DC>Unix..Complete sources & binaries,x-windows,tcp/ip..(Pre-orders).27.95

>Is this the LINUX CD?

Sounds more like the Info-Magic "Unix" disc, from the description given....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Don't ask me, I was hired for my looks.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8273
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 12/02/93  1:02a
Subj: SOUND EFFECTS LIBRARY                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I have sound effects library on cd.  This is selling for $19 or more.

 $17 as of my new price list - though your price is STILL quite reasonable for
a used copy....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Bad or missing mouse - boot the Cat (Y/n)?

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8274
  To: JOHN THOMPSON                            Date: 12/03/93  1:02p
Subj: SIMTEL-20 UTILITIES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>BF>   Simtel 20 doesn't have the search engine, but it DOES have the best  
BF>
> assortment of GOOD utilities I have seen anywhere. Not the "newest"  BF>
>stuff, more the "best no matter HOW old it might happen to be" stuff.

>They didn't put the search engine on the CD?

 I don't think they did - but I may have missed it, since I NEVER use the
things....


 * SLMR 2.1a * The nearer the Church the further from Deity.

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From: DOUGLAS CABAN                          Number: 8275
  To: JERRY JOHNSON                            Date: 12/05/93  8:31p
Subj: Re: Adult cd for trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm new at this can you tell me the deal on that cd I own a cdrom and am
looking for some good stuff. BTW I'm old enuff..


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 8276
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/07/93 11:30a
Subj: WOMEN ON WHEELS                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Michael Harris to Lee Noga <=-

 > Got the Women on Wheels slides--Man O' Man, phew ! Can't wait for Bob
 > Jackson to review this title--the girls redefine the word sexy and
 > gorgeous-
 > Don't take my word for it....this one will light up B.J. like a
 > Christmas tree :)--and *YES* this disc can go on the BBS as well.
 
Can hardly wait, Lee darlin'! Lookin' forward to being "WOWed" by
Women On Wheels. If it's as good as you say, might have to go out and get
^     ^  ^
myself a "sickle". ((:>
... Spaceballs: The Tagline
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From: JEFF HUGHES                            Number: 8277
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/07/93  7:26p
Subj: Richard Carter - ADA Programming CD...  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: ADA Programming...
BY: Richard Carter (1:282/62)

>We have it!  ComputerHelp!! 
>It is a Walnut Creek CDROM, and the description Walnut Creek offers is: 
>560+ Mb of documentation, information , and source code.  With more than 
>5,000 files, this idsc is an indispensible resource for any ADA programmer. 
>Imagine the convienience of refering to the disc for all the Ada language 
>reference manuals, a complete set of Ada language issue comments, PC and 
>Mac Ada/ED compilers, benchmarks, validation suites, courseware, Ada pro- 
>gramming tools, and prodigious amounts of souce code. 

     My main question is whether or not it has any kind of compiler for these
sources.  ADA is used by many aeronautical institutions (like NASA) and is
taught at a college I'm interested in, so I'd like to get a head start, but
without a compiler it isn't worth as much to me.
     $18 + S/H is a good price, just need a CD-Rom now  <g>


     Jeff

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From: HECTOR SAVIOTTI                        Number: 8278
  To: LEO MULVIHILL                            Date: 12/07/93 12:04a
Subj: Popular Titles                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Just a friendly advise, you are giving your name, your phone and your MC
NUMBER.... Nice if any crook is into computers and reading this message
base!!!  .... Regards.

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From: DAVID SEBRING                          Number: 8279
  To: ADAM BRIAND                              Date: 12/06/93  6:42p
Subj: RTZ CD Shipped                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Adam , recieved your check & will send out RTZ a.s.a.p.

David Sebring

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From: KEVIN BEYERS                           Number: 8280
  To: DAN ROBINSON                             Date: 12/06/93  3:21p
Subj: CD-Rom Wanted!!!! Cheap!!!!!!           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DR>* On 11-29-93 at 23:54 Kirk Reeves uttered these remarkable words
DR>to Lee Dette
KR> The prices for CD-Roms are dropping.  A couple of days ago I
KR> got a brand new panasonic  double-spin with kodak-photo
KR> capability for $190.00  (Plus the dealer threw in a cd-rom
KR> disk)
KR> Of course I was hunting for a little while for this until I
KR> found this.
KR> Currently, the model I got the Panasonic 562-b sells between
KR> $225 and $275

DR>Would you mind sharing with us where you found this great
DR>deal????

DR>Dan

Hello I can sale you  A MiTsumi CD-rom for 200.00 brand new Plus tax and
shipping
                                                Kevin beyers

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From: JOE HEUGLY                             Number: 8281
  To: WC HILL                                  Date: 12/05/93  8:47p
Subj: cd storage boxes want                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   -=> Quoting Wc Hill to All <=-

 WH> Occasionally I'll get a CD that comes in a cardboard wrapper/cover.
 WH> What I'd like to find is a plastic storage box/device that I can store
 WH> these disks in, individually. Is there anything out there that other
 WH> users have found that works or is available commercially?

I bought some of these plastic CD-ROM storage cases, called jewel boxes,
from:  Metatec Corporation
       7001 Discovery Blvd
       Dublin, OH 43017
       1-800-637-3472
They cost $7.95 per dozen when I bought them in February.
Joe

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From: BOB BRODOVSKY                          Number: 8282
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/07/93  1:17a
Subj: Sysops & BB2 (Review)                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

And yet another review of Busty Babes 2 (Well, sort of):      
 
     Before I dig into this, let me give you all a bit of my background.  
I was a professional photographer for 10 years, I owned and operated a  
commecial studio specializing in glamour and tabletop product  
illustration. I have been publishished in many magazines, newspapers, 
calanders, posters and god knows what else... I am also a Fido Sysop  
(have been for 4 years just for the fun of it) and have a very well  
respected BBS. 
 
     Lee Noga sent me a copy of Busty Babes II for me to review and give  
my honest opinion about it to her and everyone here. I'm no going to  
replicate what Bob Jackson does, I'm going to give my professional  
opinion about the images I saw and about the disk from a sysops'  
perspective. 
 
THE DISK 
 
     As the sysop of a busy (800+ Users, 175 Subscribers) but small BBS,  
I realize the need to keep everyone happy, including myself. I like the  
majority of the sysops in the world do not have wads of cash to buy lots  
of hardware; mine is a 486/25sx with 200 megs of harddrive, a 144k modem 
and a single CD-Rom drive. My machine is used by my wife and kids as  
well as BBS users and myself. I suspect that many other sysops are in  
the same boat. 
 
     As with most people, harddrive space is at a premium and I hate to  
waste it holding umteen million files for a BBS and CD-Rom is the  
perfect solution. My quest has been to find the perfect cd-rom disk to  
put on that drive. I know full well that pictures of nude women are big  
sellers on the BBS scene, but general audiance GIFS and shareware give a  
bbs depth and respectability. 
 
     I was impressed with  the basic look of  BB2 when I looked at it.  
There seemed to be an adaquate amount of nude directories and  shareware  
directories on it. This makes for a large amount of file areas on the  
bbs; big plus. The shareware appears to be late 1992 and early 1993 
stuff, which is pretty good considering it's Busty History.  Missing  
though are an OS/2 and Communications areas, pretty much staples on many  
boards. BB2 packs 200 megs of business, hobby, ANSI, and many other user  
type shareware files onboard. Lee did not put many utilities and techie  
stuff on BB2. 
      
     There is a directory called Z_sysops with file conversion utilities  
to make the files.bbs usable with much of the BBS software on the  
market. I felt this was weak, and Lions Den could have placed two or  
three different files.bbs type formats in each directory.  Hopefully Lee  
will here this and take the extra time to include it in her next  
release. 
 
GIRLS, GIRLS, GIRLS 
 
     BB2 contains lots of GIFS of great looking women, no doubt about  
that. I was pleasantly suprised when I saw the GIF files. The "Sideshow"  
atmosphere that permiated BB1 was gone. No raunchy pictures of sloppy  
sex or cucumber screwing on this one. The porno purists maybe  
disappointed by this, but it's my opinion that  with the lack of hard  
sex and rude stuff, BB2 may just break out of that "Wife Proof" plain  
paper wrapper attitude most folks have about adult cd's. 
 
     In my quest for the perfect  CD, I was very dissapointed in that  
there was only one directory of GIF files suitable to put up for General  
user consumption. That one, SWIMSUITS was excellent though. I currently  
have Shareware online #1 up on my Board and it contains GIF files of  
many 
different subjects, not just women. Some of you will bitch about that  
but hey, kids and folks with other tastes still call bbs's (and pay for  
it). 
 
     As a photographer, I found BB2 full of good images (some great)  
that were tastefully and professionally done. The lighting for the most  
part was very good, although I prefer to see more specular highlights  
and a hot hairlight for more seperation. The posing was nice, details  
were 
well thought out and most all of the images were free of the exposure  
nightmares often seen in porn stills. 
 
 
IN A NUTSHELL 
 
     To sum it all up, BB2 is looking tall in the saddle. It's the first  
attempt that I know of to combine a little bit of everything on one CD.  
When I ran the disk on one of my Norton  Utilities, it showed a bit over  
425 megs. If a CD can hold up to 650 megs, why not pack it with more  
shareware; or better yet, How bout'  25-40 megs worth of General  
audiance GIFS. Then this would be my only choice for an all in one disk  
for bbs use. Right now, I'm debating putting it up as my only disk. I 
like to put up some hot lookin' gifs on my board but I don't want to be  
primarily an adult GIF board.   Decisions, Decisions.... 
 
   A great disk for the sysop who wants it all, doesn't feel the need  
for multiple CD-ROM drives and can appreciate a great set of curves. 
 
-==>>Bob<<==- 
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From: CHUCK SPEAR                            Number: 8283
  To: SCOTT HORMAN                             Date: 12/07/93 12:32p
Subj: Hell Cab                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Scott!

05 Dec 93 13:18, Scott Horman wrote to All:

 SH> Hell Cab for IBM...

 SH> This game is MPC with box $43.50

 SH> call 515-255-8592 or net mail to 1:290/7

 This game is NOT mpc at all. I checked with their software support because I
was having problems with it. It is NOT MPC at all, and the software support
will tell you that.

 Just thought you would like to know.

<<Chuck>>

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 8284
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/07/93  9:02p
Subj: cd rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Scott!

Monday December 06 1993, Scott Raley writes to Pat Rickerson:

 SR> I just want one drive for right now, later if you can't get rid of the
 SR> rest I might take them.  Do you have the specs on these and
 SR> cables, cards,documentation?

They run to slow for 7th Guest, but great for everything eles, have software
cable and controller
Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 8285
  To: EDDIE IMPERIAL                           Date: 12/07/93  9:04p
Subj: Bible CD's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Eddie!

Monday December 06 1993, Eddie Imperial writes to Pat Rickerson:

 EI> I HAVE THE KJV BIBLE ON CD. NICE WINDOW TYPE
 EI> SCREENS! $25.00

 EI>                                       EDDIE

Thanks, but got one
 Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 8286
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 12/07/93  9:07p
Subj: Bible CD's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Hayden!

Monday December 06 1993, Hayden Bradshaw writes to Pat Rickerson:


 ->> Have a Minister here that is looking for any Cd's, do you have any he
 ->> may be interested in? If you do please reply, thanks.

 HB> Hi, Pat:

 HB> I have 3 different titles available.  These are in $CDN, so if you order
 HB> these remember your dollar is worth about 30% more than ours.

 HB> Bible Lands and Stories:  $62. CDN
 HB> Bible Library:             41.
 HB> Bibles and Religions:      20.

Thank you for the reply
Pat

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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 8287
  To: IAN SINGER                               Date: 12/07/93 11:42p
Subj: Novell Netware 3.xx & CDR               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

IS> RM> I have heard that Novell Netware 3.xx directly supports CDROM
  > RM> drives.  Does anyone know if that includes the old Hitachi
  > RM> CDR3500 drives?

IS>You can use any cd drive on Novell, but not attached to the server.  Put
  >it on a workstation and map it to the network with mapassist or I
  >believe if its scsi it can be hooked to the server with SCSI Express


Ahhhhhh........perfect......

James
 þ OLX 3.10 31-0461 þ ... I smashed a Window and saw... OS/2.


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From: LAWRENCE MINTZ                         Number: 8288
  To: RUSTY ATKINS                             Date: 12/07/93  7:06p
Subj: OS/2 2.1 CD-ROM For Sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >> OS/2 for Windows will be available in more than 13 languages, and
 >> will be generally available on Nov. 10, 1993.  A 90-day promotional
 >> offering of $39 USD for CD-ROM and $49 USD for diskettes is available
 >> by calling 1-800-3IBM-OS2.  Additional licenses can be purchased for
 >> $29 USD. The product will also be available from IBM PC Dealers,
 >> IBM Software Dealers, IBM Remarketers, IBM Resellers and IBM Direct.
 >>

 > Exactly what is this OS/2 for windozes anyway? Is IBM
 > giving-up already? Running an operating system
 > emulator under an operating environment (that the s/w
 > company likes to call an operating SYSTEM) under DOS
 > does not seem very beneficial. I heard nothing of this
 > software in the magazines. I was just walking through
 > a local retail store and saw it.... very puzzling.

OS/2 for Windows is the same software that came with the original release of
OS/2 version 2.1, minus the software in OS/2 that emulates Windows 3.1.  It
relys on the fact that many PC owners ALREADY have Windows and don't need to
pay for an additional copy that comes with the full version of OS/2. This
allows them to ship a cheaper product since they do not have to pay Microsoft a
royalty on each copy of OS/2 for Windows shipped, as they must do for the full
OS/2 system.  How it operates for Windows aplications, in comparision to the
full version of OS/2, is a question I can't answer since I am running the full
version, not the OS/2 for Windows version.

Larry

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From: DANNY BRIGANCE                         Number: 8289
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/07/93 10:40p
Subj: Bible CD's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Pat!

Sunday December 05 1993, Pat Rickerson writes to All:

 PR> Hello All!

 PR> Have a Minister here that is looking for any Cd's, do you have any he may
 PR> be interested in? If you do please reply, thanks.

I have Bible's and Religion CD, I will part with for $10.00 and you pay
shipping.  It's only about 2 months old.  Reply here or netmail me at 1:130/30.

Danny

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From: WC HILL                                Number: 8290
  To: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN                       Date: 12/07/93 10:44a
Subj: CD STORAGE BOXES WANT                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi William,

WTM> WH> Occasionally I'll get a CD that comes in a cardboard wrapper/cover.
WTM> WH> What I'd like to find is a plastic storage box/device that I can store

WTM>Hi, Bill. If I understand right, you are looking for what is known as
WTM>"Jewel Boxes". These are the same kind of plastic box that most audio

 Many thanks for your reply. I'll check it out next time I get to town.

 bill

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From: WC HILL                                Number: 8291
  To: LEO MULVIHILL                            Date: 12/07/93 11:12a
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Leo,

LM>Compton's Multimedia Encyclopedia
LM>Make offer

If you'd be interested in Word Perfect for Windows, I'd like to trade
even up. I have ver 5.1 AND 5.2upgrade complete with all manuals and
original disks. Unfortunately, I didn't get the license when I acquired
this through a trade. Please let me know if you'd be interested in this
trade.

 Thanks

 bill


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From: RAY CRITTENDEN                         Number: 8292
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/07/93 12:25a
Subj: Cd rom distributors                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


                                HELLO!
                         CD ROM DISTRIBUTORS

    I am looking for a source of CD ROM discs for resale.  If you are a CD ROM
Distributor or maker please contact me at one of the below addresses.

                         Ray Crittenden
                         981 Belspring Dr
                         Virginia Beach, VA 23456
                         Voice:  (804)471-7223
                         Voice:  (804)499-8813
                         BBS:    (804)471-7150
                         FAX:    (804)499-8920
                         FIDO:   1:275/114
                         RIME:   5302
                         INFONET:  27:27/13
                         CROSSNET:  73:2600/7

Thanks in advance>

-=Ray=-


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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 8293
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 12/06/93  7:15p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KP>On 07 Nov 93  21:34:52, I heard Greg Sterling shout to Kevin
KP>Plummer:

GS> KEVIN,
GS> I DON'T HAVE MUCH IN THE WAY OF COMPUTER EQUIPMENT.  ONLY A
GS> KP>2400 BAUD INTER
GS> MODEM.  HOW MUCH MONEY?
GS> GREG
GS> GS>
GS>
GS> KP>Well, How about the modem, and $50.00 ??
GS>
GS>
GS> Kevin,
GS> We're getting close.  Is there anything else you might be
KP>willing to trade?
GS> If not, will you take $40.00 and the modem?
GS> I really want the CD.  I'm sure we can work some kind of
KP>deal.
GS> Greg

KP>Okay, I will take $40.00 plus the Modem, If you Guarentee it
KP>against D.O.A. ??

KP>                   Send Money Order and the Modem to:
KP>Kevin Plummer
KP>1355 Clore Drive
KP>Martsinville,In  46151  Or Call: (317) 342-2034


Kevin,
Sorry, Xmas is leaving me cash poor.  Maybe next year.
Greg

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From: JAMES BLISS                            Number: 8294
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/07/93  6:55p
Subj: CD-ROM FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I HAVE A CHINON CDS-431 DRIVE WITH INTERFACE CARD
FOR SALE.

350 MS ACCESS TIME
150 KB TRANSFER RATE
CADDY TYPE
SCSI INTERFACE CARD

$185.00 OBO  WILL CONSIDER TRADE.
901-837-0666 ASK FOR JIM OR LEAVE A MESSAGE.

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 8295
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 12/07/93  6:42a
Subj: Women On Wheels                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Michael,

No problem, will be going out today then.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 8296
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/07/93  7:31p
Subj: CDROM/SB combo                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a sound blaster pro 2, and a creative labs CD Rom drive for sale.
This is everything you need to have sound/CD......

Price is $250+P&H



Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: WILLIAM WRIGHT                         Number: 8297
  To: JEFF HUBERT                              Date: 12/07/93  6:33p
Subj: games and cd-roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  Shareware Extravaganza      | 4 CD-ROMS!| $29  | 3
 > gig of shareware
 >  Phoenix 4.0                 | CD-ROM    | $15  |
 > NEW!! shareware cd-rom
 >  Americas Premier Shareware  | CD-ROM    | $15  | good
 > shareware collection

Hmm, I might want to buy one of those. If they don't sell soon, post this
message again to me sometime around Christmas (I'll have more money then) I
might want to buy Shareware Extravaganza.

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From: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN                     Number: 8298
  To: LEO MULVIHILL                            Date: 12/07/93 12:39a
Subj: Re: Popular Titles                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Reply to msg originally in CD Rom For Sale

 -=> Quoting Leo Mulvihill to Jim Lambert <=-

 LM> If you accept here is my MC # ****-****-****-**** exp 1/94

 LM> My voice # is 215-453-8338 before 2 eastern.

 LM> Leo

 Just thought you would like to know that you have just broadcast your
 credit card not only nationwide but worldwide. I did not repeat your
 number in order not to compound the problem.


... Good luck!                   Mac in Tampa, FL  
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From: RANDY HUNT                             Number: 8299
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 12/07/93  1:59a
Subj: Re: Women On Wheels                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What kind of sounds are on the sound effects library? And what format?

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From: RANDY HUNT                             Number: 8300
  To: CHARLIE JARMAN                           Date: 12/07/93  2:03a
Subj: Re: CD offerings                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Is there a catalogue you could send me? If so, I'll E-mail you my address.

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 8301
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/06/93 12:52p
Subj: Big Sky Special                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                        ****** Big Sky Rom I ****** 
 
 *  7024 Archives, 664,860,429 bytes of downloadable archives. 
 *  All archives use Pkzip 2.04g maximum compression. 
 *  All files scanned with McAfee Associates SCAN 9.15 V104 
 *  All archives contain a FILE_ID.DIZ to identify them. This feature 
    saves the receiving sysops loads of work! 
 *  All files are True Date Stamped based on the largest file. 
 *  All archives compared to the latest Hack Report lists to remove 
    any illegal, commercial, or hacked programs. 
 *  No unnecessary files or directories cluttering the disc. 
 
Big Sky Rom I  - The Downloader's Rom    $26.00 
 
Big Sky Rom II - Top Drawer (Pre-Orders) $19.00 
 
Top Drawer will soon be released!  This disc has our highest 
recommendation for a top notch BBS Ready CD-Rom.  You will not find 
a better shareware disc for your money! 
 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice           Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
(205) 671-0092 BBS        Download CATALOG.ZIP for our full catalog. 
 
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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 8302
  To: RON URBASSIK                             Date: 12/06/93  7:32p
Subj: NightOwl 10 $29 + $0 ship               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Ron!

Sunday December 05 1993 01:40, Ron Urbassik wrote to All:

 RU> NIGHT OWL 10.0 CD-ROM, $29. 640+ mb, 5000+ 1993 files. Over 60%
 RU> newer than 07/93. No duplicates to other NIGHT OWLs. New Windows
 RU> search & retrieve. Longest running series. #1 best seller. BBS
 RU> ready. 10/93.

Geeze, Ron... you're slacking off!  That's the most boring ad I've seen you
post.  Couldn't you "color" it up a bit?  <GRIN>

Later,

Dave

... Impeach CLINTON and her Husband!

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From: DOUG HUNKELE                           Number: 8303
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/06/93  7:26p
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris,

   Received Cream of the Crop II and Hobbes OS/2....now for the question, is
anyone having problems reading the Hobbes OS/2???? Have tried it in two
different Mist. LS005 drives and it can not be read....i have tried 14
different CD's in the same drive with no problem, even rebooted system to
ensure config read correctly, the drive the Hobbes is in would not even be
recognized by the system....BAD DISC??? or ??????????

Doug

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From: G. LARRY WEBB                          Number: 8304
  To: LEO MULVIHILL                            Date: 12/06/93  8:24a
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll offer $10 plus $3 shipping for MS Works on CD ROM. 

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From: CLINT MORTON                           Number: 8305
  To: CHARLIE JARMAN                           Date: 12/07/93  8:15p
Subj: Re: Cd Rom                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>         What kind of hardware are you trading? I'm looking for a 6+
>         bay tower case and a simple VGA monitor.
> 
>         I have a CD I could trade <deal pending>.
> 
>                                                 Charlie
> 
> 
> 
> ... Children: Pure love contained in soft packages.
> --- GEcho386 1.01+
>  * Origin: Cape Fear BBS *exTENsive HAM Support* 919-458-7999
> (1:3628/7)
I had to look up PROLIFIC???  I got a couple of 422 cards, bunch of 
broken vga monitors, a 20 meg MFM, a 1.2meg floppy, 256k vga card, copy 
II pc board, and some other junk.

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From: GENE MILLSAPS                          Number: 8306
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 12/07/93  9:45p
Subj: Re: encarta for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EP>Are you aware that the $80 price is only good until the end of the year ?

EP>The difference here is I think Encarta is a pretty decent product.

Makes sense.  We're glad that you think it's a good product, as we bought it a
few days ago.

Hoping you find your echoes elating . . .
       - Gene


Hoping you find your echoes elating . . .
       - Gene
===
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From: JOHN BRODERICK                         Number: 8307
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/05/93  8:47p
Subj: cd-rom wanted!!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    I'm looking for a new Cd-rom kit must be external and have a sound
card all info welcome!


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From: JEFF TAYLOR                            Number: 8308
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 12/07/93  6:51p
Subj: Cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Joe!

In a message to Doug Hummel <12/04/93> Joe Rinehart wrote:


JR>     Geez, the caps imply screaming & make it hard to read at 3:15am:)  We
JR> several Hitachi model 3500 drives that are in the process of being refurb
JR>  Some I already know are only good for parts, if that is what you are loo
JR> for. We also have facilities to repair model 3500 drives & can probably w
JR> something out, without stealing your wallet:)  In any regard, we do have
JR> model drives, & plently of them.  Let me know if you want your's repaired
JR> you want a drive for parts that you might work on yourself?


JR>     Regards,
JR>     Joe Rinehart
JR>     config.sys, Inc.


Joe,
   I would be interested in a few of those drives if the price is right.
   I have 2 now and would like to have 4. Please get back to me with
   what you have and what you need to part with a few.

Thanks
Jeff

 * WCE 1.10/2234 * Don't blame me! I just wrote the thing!


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From: JEFF HUBERT                            Number: 8309
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/07/93  9:38p
Subj: Lower Prices!!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Carbon Copy:
 * Original message to ALL in the For Sale - B conference.


 I have the following games and cd-roms for sale.
 All products have original manuals, disks, boxes, etc. and are in excellent 
 condition. Prices are negotiable. Buy more than one product and I'll give 
 you a discount. Call (410) 442-2726 NOW! 

 Product                     | Disk size   |Price | Description
 ----------------------------|-----------|------|-------------------------
 Strike Commander            | 3.5       | $30    Best graphics flight-sim.
                             |           | with sample Origin screen saver 
                             |           | that plays scenes from the game
                             |           |      | 
 Front Page Sports Football  | 3.5+update| $25  | Best football game, with
                             |           |      | update disk
 Tetris(includes tetris TSR) | both      | $9   | tetris,strategy game
 Heart of China(256 color)   | 3.5       | $17  | good adventure game
 Kings Quest 5(256 color)    | 3.5       | $23  | Highly acclaimed adventure 
 Simcity                     | both      | $19  | create,manage your city
 Lemmings                    | 5.25      | $15  | fun strategy game
 Action Sports soccer        | 3.5       | $15  | good soccer game
 Mike Ditka Ultimate football| 5.25      | $19  | 256 color football game
 Ultima 7:The Black Gate     | 3.5       | $23  | very good RPG game
 Wing Commander              | 3.5       | $15  | like X-wing, fly in space 
 Star Control 2              | 3.5       | $25  | space RPG,adventure,action
 Shareware Extravaganza      | 4 CD-ROMS!| $29  | 3 gig of shareware
 Phoenix 4.0                 | CD-ROM    | $15  | NEW!! shareware cd-rom
 Americas Premier Shareware  | CD-ROM    | $15  | good shareware collection
 7th Guest                   | 2 CD-ROMs | $29  | Great adventure, 
                             |           |      | puzzle GAME with 
                             |           |      | "The making of 7th Guest" 
                             |           |      | video.
All shareware cd-roms have a wide variety of files, including GAMES, windows
and dos programs,utils,os/2,clip art,communications, and much more!


___
 X SPEED 1.30 [NR] X 2400 baud, wake me up when the d/l is complete

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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 8310
  To: DANNY BRIGANCE                           Date: 12/09/93  7:03a
Subj: Bible CD's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Danny - if that doesn't work out, I'll give you $11 shipped for it.  Jerry

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From: ED PITTSLEY                            Number: 8311
  To: ROGER TABAR                              Date: 12/07/93  9:28p
Subj: Welcome Aboard                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi, Roger!

        Hope you are having some good experiences getting to know the BBS
system.  I tell you, I've been doing it for a year or so and still don't know
half of what's going on.

        I remember my first time on. . .I had to towel the sweat off I was so
nervous.  But you get used to it.

        I know there are a lot of good boards out there.  I tend to stick with
Mike McGuire's Analog Gate nodes 1 & 2 and I use Robin Moore's Hometown.  They
both are good sysops to work with and Mike is especially helpful if he sees you
struggling.  Feel free to leave them a message when you have a question.  If
it's fairly basic, I might be able to help.

        Hope you get to download some games for your kids.

                                CYL  (Catch You Later

                                        Ed

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From: DOUG THRUSH @ 924/1                    Number: 8312
  To: DENNIS THRUSH                            Date: 12/07/93  6:04p
Subj: Nothing Interesting here                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DT>Radio Shack has the Soundblaster Pro at $99.99. This is the
DT>discontinued price.  Its hard to find, though. 


It wasn't the price that has kept me from buying a soundblaster. 
I just didn't think I really needed one.  The Post Exchange keeps
several models in stock, ranging from $89 to &139 depending on
how advanced you want to get.  I really have no desire to create
and edit sound files with my computer.  I have a *big stereo* that
does an outstanding job at making noise.  I just didn't
understand why I had to have a soundblaster to play a chess game
(ChessMaster 3000).  My new Procomm for windows has a nice online
chess game that allows me to play chess with another player
across town.  BTW neither one of the BBS that I can get FidoNet
on carries the general or common conference.  You can usually find
me lurking in CDROM or the Window conferences.  Of course I spend
more time in the RIME network or InterNet lurking.

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 8313
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 12/08/93 10:19a
Subj: Amateur Models for trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN>Wish to trade Amateur Models (new, viewed only once) for another adult
RN>cd disc.

I'm an adult and am willing to consider a trade from the following list:

CD-ROMS for Sale

Tax-Prep 1993 ..................................  $15
CD-ROM Premier .................................  $14
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $15
Toolworks US Atlas and Automap .................  $22
Toolworks World Atlas ..........................  $22
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $ 9
PC Sig Library 9th edition .....................  $11
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $16
Sneek Peeks from Sierra ........................  $13
Corel Art Show 3 with large Book ...............  $24
Phoenix-CD Version 3.0 .........................  $12
Chessmaster 3000 ...............................  $24

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Registered Symantec Q&A Consultant


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From: KEVIN HOLMAN                           Number: 8314
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/08/93 10:56a
Subj: CD encyclopedia                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi all...

I have software toolworks encyclopedia
 for sale.  New and still in plastic with manual
---$15.

Call or reply here

Kevin Holman
817-381-2664




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From: FRANK SERENO                           Number: 8315
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/08/93  6:30p
Subj: 10% Discount                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Richard Carter to Mike Shannon <=-

 RC> On 12-04-93 Mike Shannon wrote to Ronald Leon... 
 
 MS> it.  Actually, a 10% discount on an item necessitates a sales increase 
 MS> of 
 MS> 43% to maintain the same amount of profit. (using a 50% markup as a 
 MS> base) 
 MS> Knocking 20% off a given item requires a sales increase of a whopping 
 MS> 150% 
 MS> to recover, and it progresses geometrically from there. 
 MS> Many a dealer has gone by the "cut 10, increase 10" philosophy, and 
 MS> gone 
 MS> out of business doing so. 

I will agree with the statement that if you cut a price 10% that you must
increase sales more than 10%, but I would like to see the reasoning behind
the 43% and 150% numbers.  I'll post this scenario and you tell me if my
figuring is correct.  It's been years since I really applied mathematics.

You sell 10 items at $10 with a 50% markup for a profit of $50     ($5 each)
You sell 12.5 items at $9 representing a 10% discount, profit $50  ($4 each)
You sell 17.33 items at $8 representing a 20% discount, profit $50 ($3 each)
You sell 25 items at $7 representing a 30% markup, profit $50      ($2 each)

If my calculations are correct to this point, then sales must increase 25%
to maintain the same profit for a 10% discount and must go up 73.3% to
maintain the same profit.  Only at a 30% discount would you have to increase
sales 150% (15 being 150% of 10) to maintain the same profit.

I think this scenario also doesn't take into account the loss of sales if
another seller lowballs your original price.  But I don't know a hill of beans
about business since I run a printing press for a living but I did study a 
bit of math in school.  ;-)


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From: DANNY BRIGANCE                         Number: 8316
  To: MICHAEL GUIDRY                           Date: 12/08/93  5:31p
Subj: Bible Cd's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Michael!

Monday December 06 1993, Michael Guidry writes to Pat Rickerson:

 MG> I've got The Bible Library containing 9 bibles and 20 reference works.
 MG> The bibles are:

 MG> American Standard, King James, Living Bible, New International, New King
 MG> James, Revised Standard, Simple English Bible, New Testament
 MG> Transliteration.

 MG> It's not bad, but we've hardly used it. How about $25 and I'll pay the
 MG> postage?  If ok, send to:

Michael if you don't hear back from Pat I will take it from you for $25.  Let
me know.  I can be reached at (817)244-3296 before noon everyday and all day
Sunday/Monday.  Thanks...

Danny

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From: DANNY BRIGANCE                         Number: 8317
  To: JERRY ZELLER                             Date: 12/08/93  5:46p
Subj: Bible CD's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Jerry!

Thursday December 09 1993, Jerry Zeller writes to Danny Brigance:

 JZ> Danny - if that doesn't work out, I'll give you $11 shipped for it.  Jerry

Ok Jerry, I think he said the guy already got one so give me a shout at
(817)244-3296 before noon everyday and we can make arrangments.

Danny

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 8318
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 12/08/93  6:27p
Subj: Nature graphics i                       Refer: NONE
Read: 12/09/93  5:07p                       Private: No 

TH>Contact us for additional information...

I give up.  How much?

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * Nature almost always sides with the hidden flaw.


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8319
  To: JEAN-LOUIS BONTRONT                      Date: 12/07/93  2:11a
Subj: EDUCATIONAL SHAREWARE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Is there any such thing as a CD with _mostly_ educational shareware on it?

 Quite a few, actually.


 * SLMR 2.1a * We don't need no Thought Control....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8320
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 12/07/93  2:13a
Subj: BUSTY BABES VOLUME II                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>As I also indicated in my post, we have been using a new 36 bit scanner
>(instead of the 24 bit scanner used on Southern Beauties), and I think you
will
>find a noticable improvement on all the scans on our upcoming disc.

 A 24-bit scanner, if used properly, is capable of EXCEEDING human perceptive
ability for the LARGE majority of the population.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Shin (n): Device used to find furniture in the dark.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8321
  To: DARREN MILLER                            Date: 12/07/93  2:27a
Subj: CD TITLES WANTED TO BUY                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>1) Bible CD

>   Looking for a CD containing mulitiple translations of the Bible,

 Bible Library or Multi Bible are your best bets on this.

>2) Reference CD

>   Encyclopedia, Dictionary, Thesaurus, Atlas, Bartlett's Familiar
>   Quotations...

 Microsoft Bookshelf. Add in a Software Toolworks/Grolier's V6 if you ned more
than the Columbia Concise Encyclopedia.

>3) Shareware CD

>   I know there are many of these out there.  I have Phoenix 4.0, and
>   am sorta happy with it.  I'd like a CD that has a lot of useful and
>   varied utilities, and has a good search program.  The use of
>   FILE_ID.DIZs and/or other lengthy descriptions of each file is a
>   definite plus.

 Simtel 20 and ASP Advantage seem to be the best overall fits here.

> BBS-readiness is a plus.

 Add Shareware Online to that list.

>4) Font CD

>   A CD filled with installed fonts, preferably TrueType and Adobes.

 Most of the GOOD such discs are EXPEN$$IVE, like Adobe Type on Call.

>5) Clip-Art CD

> General purpose clip art.  A sample book is a necessity for this one

 That requirement almost specifies Corel Art Show III. I have not SEEN any
other clipart disc that includes a sample book, though I have heard of a few
others (in the "professional" price ranges).


 * SLMR 2.1a * Memory Hog Error: More $RAM needed. Overspend now (N/y)?

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8322
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 12/07/93 11:13a
Subj: MITSUMI 2X SPIN                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>New subject while I have your attention:  will we be seeing you at the
>Mansfield, OH Hamfest?  Glad we got a chance to eyeball at Southfield.

 High probability I'll be there, as I don't know of any other show that day.


 * SLMR 2.1a * 32% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8323
  To: NINO FAGAN                               Date: 12/07/93 12:11p
Subj: CDROM DISC PRICES11/23/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>just received my quarterly Hobbs CDRom from Walnut Creek and THEIR price list.

 Note - Walnut Creek sells their CD-ROMs to end-users at LIST price.

>How is it that you can go SO low?

 Same way the rest of us can - quantity purchaces drops the pricing per unit.

>If you ARE ligit with these low prices, I may never go back to Walnut Creek.

 He COULD be legit (I've not delt with him, so no hard data either way).
 I can match any price he has posted so far - in fact, if you INCLUDE shipping
and handling, my current pricing is the same or LOWER than his for orders of
less than about 6 discs at a time....


 * SLMR 2.1a * A Feature is a Bug with Seniority.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8324
  To: JOHN THOMPSON                            Date: 12/07/93  1:21p
Subj: CDROM DISC PRICES11/24/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Is this the 11/93 release of the SIMTEL CDROM?

 There is no such release - the new Simtel upgrade is dated 10/93.


 * SLMR 2.1a * ________///||||||||||||||||||||    Domino effect at work!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8325
  To: WC HILL                                  Date: 12/07/93  1:28p
Subj: CD STORAGE BOXES WANTED                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Occasionally I'll get a CD that comes in a cardboard wrapper/cover. What I'd
>like to find is a plastic storage box/device that I can store these disks in,
>individually.

 Commonly known as "jewel cases" - I sell 10 of them for $7, 50 for $30,
shipping included to the U.S. IF prepaid.

 Brice's Library
 5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
 Indianapolis, IN 46220
 (317) 726-1980  (Tu Th 11AM - 8PM   We Fr 11AM - 6PM  EST)


 * SLMR 2.1a * Con is the opposite of Pro - i.e. Congress-Progress

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8326
  To: IRA WILSKER                              Date: 12/07/93  2:53p
Subj: EDUCATIONAL SHAREWARE CD                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Look at EDUCATION MASTER.  I have volumes 1 and 2 I purchased.   They were
very
>low cost, and full of educational programs.  I am sure  that the vendors
online
>here have copies.

 I carry the 2'nd edition - I believe the 1'st edition is no longer in print,
though someone may have back stock on it....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Favorite pets? Sleek ass, warm pussy, pert brests....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8327
  To: PAUL LAUGHLIN                            Date: 12/07/93  3:01p
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> > Mitsumi LU002S CD-ROM drive

>interested...   What is the speed on that?

 That's the old 600ms drive.


 * SLMR 2.1a * I am Borg the Gates. Ack! Thwip! Hardware is irrevelent!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8328
  To: MARK CROSBIE                             Date: 12/07/93  3:03p
Subj: OS/2 2.1                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Anyone have OS/2 v2.1 on CD-Rom for sale.

 $99 for the OS/2 2.1 upgrade version (I think this one requires DOS or Windows
or an older OS/2 to be installed before it will install).

 Shipping included to U.S. addresses IF prepaid.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Another day lonely, still searchin' for love...

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From: IAN SINGER                             Number: 8329
  To: DAVID RYDER                              Date: 12/07/93  7:54p
Subj: CD'S Wanted                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have all the Night Owls in stock.  Which ones do you want.
 
You can order through 416-252-1133 data
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From: JOHN LITTLE                            Number: 8330
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 12/07/93  6:53p
Subj: Amateur Models for trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Wish to trade Amateur Models (new, viewed only once)
 > for another adult
 > cd disc.
How many megs are on this disk?  Are all the pictures R to X rated (no XXX)?  I
have Busty Babes I Vol 3 I might trade for another CD.
Also have 7th Guest I would trade, or Hobbes OS/2 (July?), or CICA Windows
Archive.
John

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From: ADAM BRIAND                            Number: 8331
  To: MIKE FITZSIMONDS                         Date: 12/07/93  5:35p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi 2x Spin                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MF > Thanks for the info, I was looking into buying one of these drives.    
  
I'm assuming that you're talking about the FX-001D drive from Mitsumi.   
If so, what problem did you find with the drive?

 * JABBER v1.1 * If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving isn't for you

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From: LARRY HUEGELE                          Number: 8332
  To: DOUG HUMMEL                              Date: 12/08/93  6:46p
Subj: Cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

One way to check the sound of your cd-rom drive is to get a program that will
play your regular CD's in your drive.  One I can think of off the top of my
head is a shareware program called CDGRAB, but there are others.  If your
CD-ROM drive plays the CD's thru the jack on the front with headphones, then
there's nothing wrong with your drive.

Most CD-ROM packages today use the sound capabilities of a "sound board" which
you say you don't have.  If you don't have a sound board, you won't be able to
hear all the cool effects.  In order to be multi-media capable, you need to
purchase and install a sound board.  SoundBlaster Pro is a good one to look
for.

TTYLaterz....


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From: DAVID HILL                             Number: 8333
  To: JEFF HUBERT                              Date: 12/07/93 11:42p
Subj: games and cd-roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

06-Dec-93, Jeff Hubert wrote to All
           Subject: games and cd-roms

 JH>  Shareware Extravaganza      | 4 CD-ROMS!| $29  | 3 gig of shareware

 JH>  7th Guest                   | 2 CD-ROMs | $29  | Great adventure, 
 JH>                              |           |      | puzzle GAME with 
 JH>                              |           |      | "The making of 7th 
 JH>                              |           |      |  Guest video."

I'll offer $50 for these two, plus pay shipping. Let me know if interested.

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From: GREG GILETTO                           Number: 8334
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/08/93  8:42p
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mitsumi (LU005 350ms 150kbs 32k cache) CD-ROM drive 
with SB PRO 16 bit sound card for sale:  $250.00 
 
Greg 
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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 8335
  To: PAUL SCHIFFERLI                          Date: 12/07/93  1:00p
Subj: Censorship                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > The latest issue of PC Magazine informs all readers that they
 > will no
 > longer accept adds of an ADULT nature with Graphics.  I note
 > that the
 > Editor is a woman.  You would think that everyone would have
 > learned by
 > now that censoring doesn't work.  They are targeting the CD-ROM
 > collections in particular.

What a crock of dung! Must be one of those feminists who think a picture of a
naked woman degrades the whole female sex. Oh well, it's her advertising
dollars she will be losing...not to mention the subscriptions when those of us
who dislike this type of "political correctness" will cancel their
subscriptions....Now, let me find that phone number.

Chris

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 8336
  To: DANNY BRIGANCE                           Date: 12/08/93 10:17p
Subj: Bible CD's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Danny!

Tuesday December 07 1993, Danny Brigance writes to Pat Rickerson:

 DB> Hello Pat!

 DB> Sunday December 05 1993, Pat Rickerson writes to All:

 PR>> Hello All!

 PR>> Have a Minister here that is looking for any Cd's, do you have any he
 PR>> may be interested in? If you do please reply, thanks.

 DB> I have Bible's and Religion CD, I will part with for $10.00 and you pay
 DB> shipping.  It's only about 2 months old.  Reply here or netmail me at
 DB> 1:130/30.

Will take it please send address
Pat

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From: ADAM LEVY                              Number: 8337
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/07/93 12:50p
Subj: Catalogs                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone out there with a free catalog send one to this address, please:
Adam Levy
8911 Pertshire
San Antonio, TX 78250
Thanx!
Adam


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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 8338
  To: RANDY HUNT                               Date: 12/06/93 12:36p
Subj: Women On Wheels                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Randy,

Answering a msg of <07 Dec 93>, from Randy Hunt to Ed Duchek:
They are a very good sampling, total of 300 different sounds, in both 8 and
16-bit .WAV format's...


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: STEWART GAY                            Number: 8339
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 12/07/93 10:12p
Subj: Re: *cream of the crop bun              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CREAM OF THE CROP BUNDLE of versions 1 &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
JR>>We are offering The Cream of the Crop bundle for only $40.00 and
JR>>will
JR>match any advertised price w/shipping on single versions:-)  We are
JR>offering a 30 day 100% money back guarantee and have BBS READY setups
JR>for almost any BBS.  To order contact: Joe Rinehart, P.O.Box 27,
JR>SHIPPING! 10%
JR>SYSOP DISCOUNT!  THIS BUNDLE IS GREAT & has not been copied by
What is the sysop price for cream of the crop II, and do you have rbbs
style fms files list with extended decription? If you have the fms
listing would like to here from you want to order it if so. Let me know.
Stewart..

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From: STEWART GAY                            Number: 8340
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/07/93 10:18p
Subj: Sony                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Want to buy two sony CD Rom's model number CDU 7205 to add to my BBS.
Let me know what you got.
Stewart..

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From: STEWART GAY                            Number: 8341
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/07/93 10:22p
Subj: Monster Media                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for rbbs style fms files listing for monster media 93 vol II.
with extended decriptions and sorted from oldest date to newest file
date. Will pay for it.
Stewart..

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From: DICK WALSH                             Number: 8342
  To: WARREN DANIO                             Date: 12/08/93  8:32a
Subj: RE: SHAREWARE STUDIO III                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey   I really like talking to Boris   He told me that when I placed the
order that I was buying the right thing   I took three of what I was thinking
about and was trying to get away from the purchase of more at this time   I
will do business with him again.   I sure wish he had an
800 number but you have to do something to keep prices down.  Anyway
I did get delivery on Dec 4th and I had to sign for it.   I sort of think
that he did protect himself by having me sign for the order    I sure hope
he gets the new catalogs to us sort of quick   I could use some more CD's
(I just hate Best Buy here in Toledo)  <Dick>

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From: WC HILL                                Number: 8343
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/08/93  8:35p
Subj: "JEWEL CASES"                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Just wanted to thank all who replied to my inquiry about CD storage boxes. So,
here's a BIG THANKS to all!

 Hope I can return the favor someday.....


 bill

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 8344
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 12/09/93  5:42p
Subj: Women On Wheels                         Refer: 11506
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Got a check from you today for $13.00... but am unsure what it is for
-> guess its for the sound effects library, but I have about 5 other sof
-> items for sale at that price.  please get back to me if thats the cor
-> I will hold the check until I know what its for.

Hey Ed,

If you (or anybody) ever needs to "research" posts from this echo, call
my BBS.  I've got all of the mail going back to last spring - 14 megs
worth and I'll continue to accumulate the posts... My BBS number is
404-491-1405 (for .QWK) or your can areafix a rescan to my fido node.
I also accumulate all of the CDROM mail and make it available - with
Bob's permission, of course |).

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 8345
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 12/09/93  6:28p
Subj: hobbes 10/93??                          Refer: 11645
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->  NF> Dave, I got three copies of this stuff.  It's costing me money t
->  NF> this echo.  How about taking this kind of crap private and you a
->  NF> Boris can duke it out without costing all the downloaders of thi
->  NF> coins.
->
-> I'm sorry about you getting three copies.  I only sent one.  It costs
-> so sit back and enjoy the ride... or take another bus.

A "bus" like Planet Connect - where the issue of long distance phone
rates is a mute point :)

tim
PLANET_CONNECT moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 8346
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 12/09/93  6:34p
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices12/06/9                Refer: 11670
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->             Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM Disc's

Richard, how do you survive selling discs retail at wholesale prices?

tim
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8347
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/08/93  1:23a
Subj: Night Owl 10.1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                       N I G H T  O W L  10.1

* Over 5,100 NEW Files   * Over 647 Meg's    * No Dupes   * Virus Checked
* No Dupes To v9.0       * All Zipped Files  * New Viewer * and  More  !!
"Night Owl 10.1 "  is here  and ready  for  delievery  !! All programs on
this cd were written or updated between Jan 1st and  Sept 1st 1993.  In
fact, 100megs of the total files are from Sept 1993.In addition, N.O has
a mouse driven GUI interface for both DOS and Windows !!
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress....... Not Just Another Off-Line Mail System <tm>!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8348
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/08/93  1:23a
Subj: SPECIAL                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~[  S P E C I A L  B U N D L E S  ]~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1. Software Vault Gold     2. Night Owl 10.         3. Shareware Online 2
   Software Vault Games       Night Owl Games          Gameware
   Software Vault Windows     Night Owl Graphics       Soundware
   Price - $49.00             Price - $65.00           Price - $49.00

4. Hobbes OS/2 'NOV'       5. Tech Arsenal          6. Pier 3
   Window Users Arch          TechnoTool               Cream Of The Crop II
   Price - $30.00             Price - $30.00           Price - $45.00

   ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUE 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8349
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/08/93  1:23a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            C R E A M     O F     T H E     C R O P    I I

OVER 654 MEGS New Shareware   4987 Files Dated '93'  Dup Checked
Virus Checked                 Files.BBS Support      Multi Line Discription
Mouse Support Menu            14Megs Prog Code       Plus MORE !!!
Only 200 prog Older Than April '93' - 10% Dup to NO10, Pier3, Software Gold

                               PRICE - $25.

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263   FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 8350
  To: ERIC HO                                  Date: 12/03/93 10:38p
Subj: Distributor in Europe                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Eric,

 > Please give me your company phone & fax nuumber, also address. I don't
 > want to reply message via echo mail. Call me at 408-748-9988 or fax at
 > 408-748-9989.

          I'll reply here in case anyone else is interested.  I tried to crash
the message to you but your system didn't talk to mine.  This will probably be
solved if your set the Guard tone in operation on the modem.

          While I'm at it, this is a problem with the setup of MANY (if not
MOST) modem in the US.  For consistant and reliable connection to modem from
Europe, you should set the guard tone ON, it will not affect local
communication but will allow Europeans to connect better.

I am representing 2 companies, operrating out of the same address:-

  Oy KnowledgeBase and T:mi Softronic at address:

  PL 97

  02101 Espoo

  Finland

  We prefer to do business by mail.  Thanks in advance.


                                                   Cheers,

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From: KEVIN BEYERS                           Number: 8351
  To: RUSTY ATKINS                             Date: 12/07/93 10:43a
Subj: OS/2 2.1 CD-ROM For Sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RA>*** Quoting Paul T.Nelson to Rusty Atkins dated 12-01-93 ***
> OS/2 for Windows will be available in more than 13 languages,
RA>and
> will be generally available on Nov. 10, 1993.  A 90-day
RA>promotional
> offering of $39 USD for CD-ROM and $49 USD for diskettes is
RA>available
> by calling 1-800-3IBM-OS2.  Additional licenses can be
RA>purchased for
> $29 USD. The product will also be available from IBM PC
RA>Dealers,
> IBM Software Dealers, IBM Remarketers, IBM Resellers and IBM
RA>Direct.
>

RA>Exactly what is this OS/2 for windozes anyway? Is IBM giving-up
RA>already? Running an operating system emulator under an operating
RA>environment (that the s/w company likes to call an operating
RA>SYSTEM) under DOS does not seem very beneficial. I heard nothing
RA>of this software in the magazines. I was just walking through a
RA>local retail store and saw it.... very puzzling.

Os/2 2.1 is  like  the next generation of DOS for IBMs systems... in a matter
of fact... OS/2  is from IBM corp. itself so it very bebeficial for IBM the
corporation....  with Os/2 I can run os/2, Dos and windows 3.1 programs at the
same time so its pretty good as a operation lauguag..... I hope this help...

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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8352
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/07/93  8:36p
Subj: NEW CDROM Discs!!!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>ComputerHelp is Happy to Announce We Are Currently< 
>Offering EMS Professional Software's CRDOM Discs!!!< 
 
If you are PC-based or Windows-based and Have Liked the 
Shareware & Utility CDROM Discs on the Market, We Believe 
You Will Really See Added Value in These Discs!!!  "WE DO!!!!" 
 
EMS Has Changed Their Format Recently and Made Their Discs 
Much More User Friendly.  We Don't Want To Take Too Much 
Space Here, But the EMS 2-Disc Set is $59.95 + shipping. 
 
If You Are Curious About the Discs, We Have a SPECIAL For YOU!!! 
We Have Sampler Single Disks (that are 1 rev -- or about 
2 months -- old).  They are the discs only, without the indexes, 
COMPLETELY FUNCTIONAL AND WITH ALL THE DATA!!! 
 
They include 
They include utilities and programs covering:  ASM, C, C++, 
AutoCAD, Xbase, DOS, Games, Hardware Demos, HomePC, Jokes, 
Multimedia, Netware, ObjectVision, Quick Basic, Paradox, 
Small Business, TrueType Fonts, TurboPascal, Visual Basic, 
Windows, and a PC Products Database. 
 
Personally, this disc has been a real resource for us in our 
computer room.  (Previously, it was just the way they handled 
their indexing that bothered us.)  They have changed that in the 
Current versions.  Remember, the Full-Fledged current versions 
are Currently $59.95 from EMS; Our Sale Price is $49.95. 
THESE VERY SPECIAL SINGLE DISC SAMPLERS ARE ON SALE FOR $12, 
INCLUDING SHIPPING! 
 
There are about 150 of these Sampler Single Discs currently available. 
 
As always, If You are Not Happy With Any Product from Us, We 
Will Take it Back within 30-days of date of purchase.  Your only 
expense would be freight/shipping. 
 
"WE WANT YOU HAPPY AND TO COME BACK THE NEXT TIME YOU ARE IN THE MARKET!" 
 
Thanks, 
Richard Carter 
___----------------------      ------------------      -------------------- 
 
 
            Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM Disc's 
 
          from:     ComputerHelp 
                    PO Box 385041 
                    Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
               Ph:  (612) 890-4750, (800) 514-7071 
                    Fax:  (612) 894-9411 
 
(as of 12/02/93) 
          SIMTEL MSDOS               $13.00 
          CICA MS Windows            $13.00 
          Hobbes OS/2                $13.00 
          Aminet Amiga               $13.00 
          Garbo MSDOS/Mac            $13.00 
          Sprite OS                  $13.00 
          QRZ! Ham Radio             $13.00

          ADA Programming            $18.50 
          GIGA Games                 $18.50 
          La Coleccion               $18.50 
          Nova for NeXTs             $18.50 
          Project Gutenberg          $18.50 
          Source Code                $18.50 
          X11/GNU                    $18.50 
          Info-Mac                   $25.50 
          CUG Library                $23.50 
          Linux                      $23.50 
          Libris Britannia           $34.00 
          Space and Astronomy        $18.50 
 
                  ***SPECIAL***SPECIAL***SPECIAL*** 
     =>>> Order 3 at once and take an Extra $1 Off of Each <<<= 
        (Limited Time Offer!!! Print and enclose this ad with 
                your order.  Good through 12/31/93!!!!) 
 
Shipping:      1-3 discs in one order = $4.50, 4-10 discs in one 
order = $6.50. 
          (MN residents add 6.5% sales tax). 
 
          All prices subject to change without notice. 
          "Yes Mildred, we do take personal cheques!" 
 
All orders by pre-payment, (you want cheap prices....); send to 
address above.  Call with any questions.  (Sorry, we don't accept 
credit cards:  they add to the 
    price and we want to be able to offer you the CHEAPEST PRICES 
   AVAILABLE.  "Thank You for Your Support!!!    -  Richard Carter 
                             ORDER FORM 
 
YES!  Please accept my order for: 
 
  Quantity          Item:         Price Each:   Extension: 
     : 
            SIMTEL MSDOS          $13.00 
            CICA MS Windows       $13.00 
            Hobbes OS/2           $13.00 
            Aminet Amiga          $13.00 
            Garbo MSDOS/Mac       $13.00 
            Sprite OS             $13.00 
            QRZ! Ham Radio        $13.00 
            ADA Programming       $18.50 
            GIGA Games            $18.50 
            La Coleccion          $18.50 
            Nova for NeXTs        $18.50 
            Project Gutenberg     $18.50 
            Source Code           $18.50 
            X11/GNU               $18.50 
            Info-Mac              $25.50 
            CUG Library           $23.50 
            Linux                 $23.50 
            Libris Britannia      $34.00 
            Space and Astronomy   $18.50 
            EMS 1-Disc SAMPLER    $12.00 ** 
                                  SubTotal:     $ 
                                  TX (MN Only)  $ 
                                  Shipping      $ 
                                  TOTAL:        $ 
 
Shipping: $4.50 for 1-3 discs, $6.50 for 4-10 discs, Call for 
           quantities larger than 10 discs. 
           ** No Shipping Charges on the EMS Sampler! 
          If you have an existing FedEX acct and want to charge to 
           it,  "No Problem!" 
          We Do COD, but only with FedEX, and by Cashiers Cheque 
           (it's expensive, but on large orders it might be worth 
           looking at). 
 
Sales Tax:     MN Only!!  6.5% 
 
We DO Accept Cheques (Personal & Business held for 5 days to clear; 
     Money Orders & Cashiers Cheques ship same day as in stock). 
 
Call With Any Questions, "We Are Here to Serve Your Needs!" 
 
Please Ship TO: 
  Name: 
  Street Address: 
  City:                      State:         Zip: 
  My Home Phone is:  (      ) My Work Phone is:  (      ) 
   (In case we have a question [or 2] regarding your order) 
___ 


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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8353
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/07/93  8:36p
Subj: NEW CDROM Discs!!!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: DENNIS HENDERSON                       Number: 8354
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/05/93  8:11a
Subj: Language CD's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>We have it Bruce ! It's a six disk set with manual !!  This is one of the
  >best language programs on cd.

Would you happen to have a Russian language CD also?


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From: JAMES CLEVENGER                        Number: 8355
  To: ERIC ENGELMANN                           Date: 12/07/93  7:22p
Subj: Re: Technical Shareware                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How full is that C/C++ disk?  In other words, how many megs, is it full?


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 8356
  To: WARREN DANIO                             Date: 12/07/93  5:51p
Subj: hobbes 10/93??                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Warren!

Saturday December 04 1993 10:54, Warren Danio wrote to Dave Reed:

 WD>         Hey dude..

My name's not "dude," Dick.  It's Dave.

 WD>  I just got through reading 3 of these whineing type messages from
 WD> you taking Pot Shots at Boris

I only sent one message, so how you got three is beyond me.  I'll check my
configuration and see that it's not sending dupes.  I'm truly sorry that your
<N>ext key isn't working in your mail reader.  I'll be more considerate in the
future.

Later,

Dave

... To a militant feminist, circumcision doesn't go far enough.

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 8357
  To: EVERYONE                                 Date: 12/09/93  9:12p
Subj: NATURE GRAPHICS I                       Refer: 11088
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

                    Nature Graphics I CD ROM
                    ------------------------
             Distribution begins on December 8, 1993

100% ORIGINAL. This disc contains 550+ megabytes of professional
quality graphics relating to nature. Each image is an original
work which only exists on the Nature Graphics disc.

BUBBA PROOF. To use the disc, the user only needs to type GO <enter>.
No installation or configuration is required and the images may be
viewed directly from the CD ROM. Instructions for running the GO.BAT
file is clearly printed on the packaging.

BBS READY. The disc may be used on a BBS. Informative and accurate
FILES.BBS description files are included. 4DOS description files
are also included.

ROYALTY FREE. The images may be used as part of a computer based
multimedia application without prior consent or payment. 16.7M color
TGA format is included to insure high quality printing.

SHELF READY PACKAGING. All artwork associated with the disc is full
color and original, created entirely with CorelDraw. It's beautiful.
Retail boxes are available for larger accounts. All packaging includes
bar codes.

Contact us for additional information...

Data Express, Inc.       Voice: 404-621-9210
6799 Windfaire Dr.       FAX  : 404-621-9122
Norcross, GA 30093       FIDO :    1:133/515
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From: DAVID HUTTON                           Number: 8358
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/06/93  9:15p
Subj: Forbidden Subjects                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone have a couple of the Forbidden Subjects Discs for sale and
if so how much?  Thanks.

                         David


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From: ELDON WAKEFIELD                        Number: 8359
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/07/93  7:37a
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following for sale asking 60.00 for all will pay shipping You can
call 706-561-7856 or netmail me thanks Eldon
 Software Vault #1
 Simtel 20 [May 93]
 SDN 1 Plus
 Mega Rom 2
 Hobbs os/2 Nov 92
 Plus a Free one 
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From: MICHAEL GUIDRY                         Number: 8360
  To: MICHAEL HAIP                             Date: 12/08/93  1:26a
Subj: Xxx Rated Cd Wanted                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 07 Dec 93, Michael Haip stated to All:

MH>Anyone out there want to tell me what the raunchiest cdrom out ther
MH>and where it can be picked up? Thanks....
MH>
MH>P.S. Is anyone out there seeing my messages, I keep posting them bu
MH>get any replies.  Just trying to find out if there is a problem wit
MH>bbs.
MH>

You signal is getting out.  I think Bob Jackson would be the echo's
leading authority on raunch :)


... The pain-in-the-butt who made Marv write Win_Mail
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From: SETH HUTCHINS                          Number: 8361
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 12/07/93  7:42p
Subj: Cdrom disc prices11/29/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Aminet Amiga...................$13.00

-> Project Gutenberg..............$18.50
-> Source Code....................$18.50
-> X11/GNU........................$18.50
-> Linux..........................$23.50

Could you please detail what are on these CD-ROMs? I would really
appreciate it. Reply here or Netmail at 1:228/81.1

Thanks!


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From: MATT P. GRAYBEAL                       Number: 8362
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/05/93  1:07p
Subj: Re: 7th Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will take it.
I will be calling you shortly.

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From: ALLAN KENNEDY                          Number: 8363
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/07/93  7:46p
Subj: LIKE TO TRADE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following that I would like to trade for a cd-rom (at least 350ms
with card) and a sound board.

386 dx 40 mother board with 4 megs 70ns ram (bio-star) the board has benn      
    used in a personal computer not a bbs. about 12 months old
ST 238r 32mb segate rll drive. drive has never benn used still in mfg.         
 shrinkwrap (no rails)
Western Digital WD1002A-27x RLL controller card

If you have a new or used rom that fits this bill please answer me here or Net
Mail me at 1:2602/120
Thankyou AL.

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From: TONY PSALTIS                           Number: 8364
  To: CLINT MORTON                             Date: 12/04/93  3:48p
Subj: Cd rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CM>I'm looking for a used but not abused, rom drive. (internal)  Have cash
  >and some hardware for trade or sale.
  >                                         Clint Morton

I have the following for sale:

   SONY CD-ROM drive (includes SONY-bus SCSI adapter)
   Model: CDU535-1 (internal)
   Acceptable discs:    CD-ROM mode-1 discs
                        CD-ROM mode-2 discs
                        CD-Audio discs
                        Audio-combined CD-ROM discs
                        CD-ROM XA discs
                        CD-I discs
   Data transfer rate:  150KB/sec (sustained)
                        600KB/sec (burst mode)

I just bought a Toshiba drive which makes the SONY (at least in my situation)
useless.  It does work with DOS and Windows pretty good.  Someone even left me
a message telling me that there are even OS/2 drivers available for it on
Compuserve.  If I knew that before I bought my Toshiba, I would probably not
have upgraded because the Toshiba was not cheap and I am an OS/2 advocate.

About a year and a half old.  Used approx. 20hrs.

L8r...
===
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From: MAURO INCROCCI                         Number: 8365
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/08/93  4:28p
Subj: CD ROM sought                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am new to this echo so forgive me if this topic has been covered already.  I
am looking for a listing of BBS ready disks that have the files.bbs or files.#
format listings.  I am a sysop and need to upgrade my SDN1+ and Super Carousel
ROM disks.  Any help (especially Canadian addresses and costs) would be greatly
appreciated.

Mauro
=-=-=

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From: BILL DEERTZ                            Number: 8366
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/08/93  9:59p
Subj: Looking 4 a DRM-600A                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm in the market for a Pioneer DRM-600A 6 disc cd-rom changer (bare
drive, no controller)  What is the best price someone can offer?  Can
anyone beat $700?


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From: GARY KIMBRELL                          Number: 8367
  To: JIM WRIGHT                               Date: 12/08/93 12:00a
Subj: RE: Adult Super Deal!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message dated 04 Dec 93  22:12:22, Jim Wright wrote:

-> > Seedy Six Pac  with over 29,000 gif's plus hundreds of text files.
-> >
-> > This 6 CD set comes factory shrink wrapped with offical seal.
-> >
-> > Complete set including shipping anywhere in the U.S. is only $99.00
-> > (While supply lasts)
->
-> Do you do plastic?
->
-> ---
->  * AmiQWK II 1.0b * Needed badly! 50 to 50 pin (male to male) Centron
-> Cable!
->
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->  * Origin: Bodega Bay BBS ONLY Amiga BBS N.E.Alabama (1:3657/1)
 JW> How do you order?

I usally order my VISA or MasterCard. How do you? I think that you got messed
up a little, I was trying to see if the guy that sells the pack would do
PLASTIC instead of Cash/COD..

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From: DAVID HOBBS                            Number: 8368
  To: LEO MULVIHILL                            Date: 12/08/93 11:02p
Subj: YOU MORON!!!!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Why in the hell did you leave your Mastercard number on this network????  Now
everyone and their brother are going to call Sears and place an order for their
favorite bedroom ensemble.  Why, I could just buy a new computer, now couldn't
I.  I could get them for my friends as well, but I won't because I'm a nice guy
who doesn't take advantage of such irresponsible, gullible, MORONS!!
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From: KEVIN BEYERS                           Number: 8369
  To: STEVE BUTCHER                            Date: 12/08/93  9:05a
Subj: CD-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi I have access to me and a few Band new Mitsumia <SP?> cd-rom and I willing
to sell them for 220 each plus shipping and CA-Tax..
 
If your're interested, call me at 209-576-1815 or call my bbs at 209-576-1606. 
Or leave me E- or Net-mail here... thanxk you and merry Christmas
                                               Kevin Beyers

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From: KEVIN BEYERS                           Number: 8370
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/08/93  9:18a
Subj: cd rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi. Scott.. I would like to offer you A Good Cd-rom for a Great Prices.. I
currently have a Few MITSUMI CD-rom Drives for 220.00 these Drives comes with
"Speedy transfer rates", Photo CD Support", plus any computer Cd-rom diskes... 
 
If you're interested, call me  at 209-576-1815 voice or data at 209-576-1606 or
leave me some E-mail or net-mail.  
 
Thank you and merry Christmas
                                                       kevin beyers

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From: KEVIN BEYERS                           Number: 8371
  To: JOHN VAN HARE                            Date: 12/08/93 12:59p
Subj: Re: Magnavox CDD-461                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello I'm currently selling Mitsumi Cd-rom Drives for 220.00 at this time.. the
suggested retail prices for this particular cd-rom internal is $369.00 but I'm
welling to sell them for less.. here some stats on the cd-rom drive.
 
Maker:         Mitsumi
Access time:   350Msec
photo CD?:     Yes.

 
If you're interested, just leave me a wire or sending me a line 209-576-1815 or
call my BBS at 209-576-1606.... Merry christmas                                
   Kevin beyers

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From: JAMIE KOWINSKY                         Number: 8372
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/07/93 12:23p
Subj: Ray-Tracing CD                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DOes anyone have a Ray-Tracing CD for sale or know where I can get somthing
like that?  I am interesed not only in the finished graphics of ray-traing but
also source code and utilities.  Please let me know if you know of anything
like this.  Thanks.

- Jamie Kowinsky


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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 8373
  To: PETE BOUDREAU                            Date: 12/09/93  4:07p
Subj: Dracula's revenge                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PB>Who has the best price for Dracula's Revenge or Return to Zork?

        If you're interested in used, I have RTZ (CD) which I've recently
        finished. Includes all original packaging, docs, etc. Asking $35
        plus $3 shipping if you're outside of Kansas City.

        Leave msg here, or call me at 913-888-5201 ext.257 (M-F 8a-4p
        Central time, or leave voice mail message).

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 8374
  To: CHRISTOPHER SLOAN                        Date: 12/09/93  4:20p
Subj: CDROMs Wanted (games)                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS>I'm looking for some good CDROM games (no shareware).

        I just finished Return To Zork on CD and am interested in selling
        it (need some holiday cash!). Includes all original packaging and
        docs. Asking $35 plus $3 for shipping.

        Leave message here, or call 913-888-5201 ext.257 (M-F 8a-4p Central
        time, or leave voice mail)

- Heather
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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8375
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/09/93 12:09a
Subj: CD-ROM drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

         WISHING YOU AND YOURS A HAPPY HOLIDAY SEASON!

    LEAP ENTERPRISES is becoming a major source for your computer
 needs. We make no bones about not always being the lowest priced
 because we know that price alone does NOT make a GOOD deal.
    We sell top quality merchandise at good prices and we offer
 support after the sale. Thanks for considering us when making
 your next hardware or software purchase.

  CD-ROM   (E)= External  (I)= Internal  OS/2= Confirmed compat.
 ---------
NEC-
    CDR-74-1 (E) Dbl. spin SCSI..............$399.00
       280ms access/300k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD; MPC1; Mac

    CDR-84-1 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI..............$309.00
       280ms access/300k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD; MPC1; Mac; OS/2

    CDR-500 (I) TRIPLE SPIN SCSI.............$499.00  WOW!
       Below 200ms/256k buffer; PhotoCD

    CDR-600 (E) TRIPLE SPIN SCSI.............$589.00  COOL!
       Below 200ms/256k buffer; PhotoCD

    CDR-900 (I) ** QUADRUPLE SPIN ** SCSI....$999.00  AWESOME!
       Below 200ms/Blazing fast!

Hitachi-
    CDR-3700 (I) AT..........................$399.00
       300ms; MPC1

    CDR-3750 (I) SCSI........................$429.00
       300ms; MPC1

    CDR-6700 (I) Dbl. spin Hitachi bus or AT.$435.00
       260ms access/300k Xfer/128k buffer;
       PhotoCD

    CDR-6750 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI..............$439.00
       260ms access/300k Xfer/128k buffer;
       PhotoCD

    CDR-8750 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI..............$459.00
       238ms access/307k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD; MPC2

    CDR-4000E Tower System with 4 CDR-6700...$2699.00 Tower system!

Sony-
    CDU-31-03 (I) Dbl. spin *Includes AT I/F.$165.00 *LOW PRICE*
       550ms access; Not the fastest, but
       this is a solid drive.

    CDU-535 (I) Sony bus.....................$275.00
       340ms access; XA compliant w/opt. kit

    CDU-561 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI...............$349.00
       265ms access/330k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD; OS/2

    CDU-541 (I) SCSI.........................$349.00
       380ms access; MPC

    CDU-7205/N (E) Sony bus..................$445.00
       340ms access; XA compliant w/opt. kit

Philips-
    CM205XRS (I) w/Audio.....................$329.00
       MPC

    CDD521 600MB RECORDER w/o software.......$4299.00 CD-RECORDER!
       Dbl. spin; Multiformats

Panasonic-
    CR-522 (I) * Includes AT I/F.............$199.00 *LOW PRICE*
       380ms access/150k Xfer;64k buffer;
       PhotoCD

    CR-562 (I) * Includes AT I/F.............$239.00
       340ms access/300k Xfer/64k buffer;
       PhotoCD

Texel DM3028 (I) SCSI........................$359.00
       240ms access/335k Xfer/64k buffer;
       PhotoCD

Teac CD-50 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI................$359.00
       265ms access/365k Xfer/64k buffer;
       PhotoCD; MPC

Toshiba 3401B (I) Dbl. spin SCSI.............$379.00
       200ms access/330k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD

    Other models available. We also carry over 350 CD-ROM disc titles
  for your pleasure, education and reference.
                                              Charlie


... Leap Enterprises; P.O. Box 328; Cerro Gordo, N.C. 28430 (910)654-4658
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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 8376
  To: GORDON FLETCHER                          Date: 12/09/93  9:01p
Subj: NIGHT OWL                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >the legal battle you mentioned earlier? What are they being sued for?
 > Chris, I had NO-10 but returned it for an exchange. As far as
 > the legal
 > battle is concerned, I know nothing. Perhaps your message was
 > intended
 > for someone else!

It was. Sorry about that...

Chris

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 8377
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 12/09/93 11:09p
Subj: Want CD's or Money                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Chris!

Sent you $27.50 for some CD's but never recived the cd's. Are you getting these
reply's or not? Sent this money out on Nov.18th, just let me know whats going
on. Have had to many people lately not sending what I have payed for. Will
contact bank to see if the check has already cleared. Sure hope you have been
to busy to get these out :) Waiting for your reply

Pat

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From: BRYANT PARK                            Number: 8378
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/08/93  8:19a
Subj: King's Quest VI - $25                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a brand new copy of King's Quest VI cd. $25 shipped to any 48
states. Leave message or call Bryant @615-662-9073
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From: ED BAILEY                              Number: 8379
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 12/08/93  9:50a
Subj: price list                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     In a reply to another, you noted:

 HB> Mind if we send you one, too, Stephen?  We are a Canadian CD-ROM
 HB> distributor just outside Toronto.

     I'd like one too:
      Ed Bailey
      Box 425
      Souris, MB R0K 2C0

    Thanks



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From: PATRICK PATRIARCA                      Number: 8380
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/09/93  3:26p
Subj: Cheap but Good..                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        I have a 1992 COMPTON'S Interactive Encyclopedia for Windows
which I will start bidding at $50. Do I have any takers?? Going once
....

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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 8381
  To: KEITH LOONEY                             Date: 12/09/93  9:41a
Subj: Information                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Keith,
Your manual is on the way for the Model 36. For the correct drivers for
your MAC, please call NEC's support BBS at 508-635-6328. You can
download the drives you need if NEC has them (and I am sure they do!)
Please feel free to call me at 517-892-5518 if you have any questions!

Matt Bedtelyon
1:239/675


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From: SCOTT HORMAN                           Number: 8382
  To: CHUCK SPEAR                              Date: 12/09/93  5:48p
Subj: Hell Cab                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Works fine on my system..


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From: DAN HATTERICK                          Number: 8383
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 12/07/93  5:28p
Subj: Cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How about a price on 4 of those 3500 drives with one card.?
   -Dan

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 8384
  To: LEO MULVIHILL                            Date: 12/07/93  1:28a
Subj: Popular Titles                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>The Animals MPC...........$24    MacMillan Dict. for Children.....$29 
 
LM>I will take Animals and the Mac Millian Dict for children if you pay the 
  >shipping. 
 
I'll give you a call, Leo.  Please don't post your credit card info 
here.  There are some not-so-trustworthy people lurking about! <G> 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: PAUL LAUGHLIN                          Number: 8385
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/09/93 10:14p
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

--> Paul Laughlin Quotes a message written by Brice Fleckenstein
--> to Paul Laughlin on 12-07-93 15:01 saying:

BF> Mitsumi LU002S CD-ROM drive
PL> interested...   What is the speed on that?
 
BF>  That's the old 600ms drive.

Is it compatible with OS/2?  If it is I will be intereseted...

                    Thanks, Paul Laughlin

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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 8386
  To: DANNY BRIGANCE                           Date: 12/10/93  6:54a
Subj: Bible CD's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Danny - just leave your mailing address and I'll send you a check.  Jerry

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From: STEVE KRAISLER                         Number: 8387
  To: MARTIN YEE                               Date: 12/08/93  4:33p
Subj: Busty babes ii                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>MY>   Interested in a trade for any of the following: The Animals! MPC
>MY> CDROM Macmillan Dictionary for Children MPC CDROM


Martin,
I have Macmillan Dictory for Children (etc) waiting for a trade.  What
are you offering??

___
 X SLMR 2.1a X Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic

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From: MICHAEL COLLIER                        Number: 8388
  To: ANDREW STUDER                            Date: 12/09/93 12:25a
Subj: Asian Ladies Warning!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AS>MC>     Someone should make up a disc of Right Wing C__ksuckers and th
AS>MC> 
AS>MC> call it "FAR RIGHT FAGS" or "SMALL MINDS BIG D__KS!" 
AS>MC> 
AS>MC>     But you know, they'd probably have a problem with finding Righ
AS>MC> Wingers with big enough BALLS . . . Maybe they could could ship al
AS>MC> complementary magnification program with the disc.
AS>MC> 
AS>MC>     Just a suggestion . . 
AS> 
AS>Why are these messages allowed to continue?  I'm a right winged cocksu
AS>and proud of it.


   Well then you must be aware of the situation! I mean, we can't have 
guys posting messages putting down people like yourself just because of 
your sexual preference. Some of my best friends are Co__ksuckers, Ooops I 
mean Gay, like yourself. It's terrible that small minded people should 
have such strongly held, violent reactions against people like yourself.
   I really admire you for coming out and declaring your sexual preference 
for all to see. That must take alot of guts. Alot more guts than it takes 
to throw around ignorant insults.

  Michael

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8389
  To: PAT DELIN                                Date: 12/07/93  4:12p
Subj: MICROSOFT ENCARTA                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I have Microsoft Encarta.. The 94 Issue of the CD-ROM.. It is cool.. Goes 249$
>retail..

 Goes for $79 from Egghead, among other sources, 'till the end of the year or
so (MicroSoft is running a special promotion on it).


 * SLMR 2.1a * How will you know me? You'll see me cry....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8390
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/07/93  5:11p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Do you have the Chestnut cd, gifs galore for $10?

 Gifs Galore is a Walnut Creek title, NOT a Chestnut title.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Liberals AND Bandits want the population disarmed....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8391
  To: MIKE BILOW                               Date: 12/07/93  5:44p
Subj: NOVELL NETWARE 3.XX & CDR               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>2.  You must use a supported SCSI controller; that is, there must be a Netware
>v3.1x *.DSK file available either from Novell or the controller manufacturer.

 Always IN-2000 includes this, as I recall, with the controller.


 * SLMR 2.1a * You want Programming jokes? C, GWBASIC, OOP, SNOBOL,...

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8392
  To: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN                       Date: 12/07/93  7:21p
Subj: CD STORAGE BOXES WANT                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I found them in a music store that sells music CD's and also
>at Radio Shack. The price at both places was the same. About $1.50 per box.

 That is a VERY high price - as is to be expected of Radio Shack.

>Also, Some of the CD-ROM dealers on here have them advertised as low as $1 but
>of course there is probably a shipping charge added on.

 10 for $7, 50 for $30, shipping INCLUDED if prepaid.


 * SLMR 2.1a * abcdefghijklmn pqrstuvwxyz - hole in the Ozone.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8393
  To: RON URBASSIK                             Date: 12/08/93 11:18a
Subj: NIGHTOWL 10 $29 + $0 SHIP               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>NIGHT OWL
>Longest running series.

 SECOND longest running series to PC-SIG (the first PC-SIG disc predates the
first Night Owl disc by a couple of years, and PC-SIG is due to release #13 any
day now)....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Don't worry, Inspector Legrasse - just another swam cult

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8394
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 12/08/93 11:19a
Subj: NATURE GRAPHICS I                       Refer: NONE
Read: 12/11/93  7:28a                       Private: No 

>                    Nature Graphics I CD ROM
>                    ------------------------
>             Distribution begins on December 8, 1993

 But what's the PRICE?


 * SLMR 2.1a * Dabbling in a bit of ironic forshadowing, are we?

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8395
  To: MIKE HILL                                Date: 12/08/93 11:23a
Subj: CD STORAGE BOXES WANT                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>     Most Record Exchanges or other used CD resale stores carry the plastic
>   boxes that you're looking for. The can normally be had for around $1 a
>   piece. However, they don't usually come with the black plastic insert that
>   holds the CD in place.

 That is NOT the case - every jewel case I have seen sold by such sources DID
include the insert. And $1 with NO INSERT is a blatant ripoff.


 * SLMR 2.1a * A dollar earned is a penny net takehome - after Clinton.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8396
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 12/08/93 12:26p
Subj: CENSORSHIP                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>We at HRB Computer Services applaud PC Mag's actions!

 Yet another group caves in to the censors - one that HAS the money to fund a
legal defence if they ever got harrassed....

 8-<

>If you look
>at the attitude of a number of agencies, not only magazine, but others -- not
>just religious, there's a great movement opposed to the porn stuff.

 Censorship is NO MORE than a different form of slavery - and is EQUALLY evil,
in that a censor would attempt to enslave your MIND, not just your body.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Catastrophe (n): Award to the Cat with the nicest buns.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8397
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/08/93 12:28p
Subj: WING COMMANDER DELUXE / W               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>This Cd I think is called Wing Commander 2 Deluxe with Secret Missions.

 $54, shipping included IF prepaid.

 Brice's Library
 5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
 Indianapolis, IN 46220

 (317) 726-1980  (Tu Th 11AM - 8PM  We Fr 11AM - 6PM  EST)


 * SLMR 2.1a * The DragonKill war is named for what the Dragons DID....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8398
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 12/08/93 12:31p
Subj: CENSORSHIP                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Censorship occurs when something is prohibited by law, not when a publication,
>a PRIVATE enterprise, chooses not to carry certain ads.

 Censorship is EQUALLY possible to a private group - it is WORSE when a
governmental organization does it as THAT form of censorship generally leaves
no recourse.

 In the PC Mag case, governmental PRESSURE appears to have been applied, and
therefore it DEFINITELY qualifies as censorship - even by YOUR limited
definition.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Free the Heinz 57!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8399
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/08/93  1:00p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1 OF 4                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Brice's Library
 CD-ROM and Book Price List 2 December 1993

 5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
 Indianapolis, IN 46220
 Tue Thu 11am - 8pm  Wed Fri 11am - 6pm  EST
 (317) 726-1980 voice  (317) 726-1387 BBS (24 hour, 1200/2400/v.32 supported)

 FidoNet 1:231/190   InterNet sysop@f190.n231.z1.fidonet.org
 All prices are in U.S. Dollars and include any applicable Sales Tax.
 U.S. Shipping included if prepaid (please allow 7 days for check to clear).
 Sales to out-of-U.S. addresses require payment in U.S. funds.
 We cannot accept Credit Card payment at this time.

 1001 Utilities                    10   Macromind Clipmedia v.1: Busines 339
 1992 CD-ROM Collection w/CIA      63   Mad Dog McCree                    36
 20'th Century Almanac (5 disc)    74   Made in the USA                   28
 20'th Century People (OEM)        25   Madness of Roland (Mac)           50
 20'th Century Sports (OEM)        25   Magazine Rack                     19
 20'th Century Video Almanac (OEM) 25   Magic Flute (Mac)                 55
 386 BSD Unix                      20   Majestic Places                   36
 501 Sound Waves                   19   Mammals (Nat. Geographic)         24
 600 Days to Cocos Island (Mac)    59   Man Enough                        65
 7'th Guest                        50   Manhole                           35
 7'th Guest (OEM)                  36   Mantis Experimental Fighter       60
 9 Digit Zip Codes                 32   Mantis Experimental Fighter (OEM) 16
 9000 Sounds                       25   Map Expert w/ Street Atlas USA   263
 999+ .WAV files                   19   Maps 'n' Facts PC Globe           44
 A Christmas Carol                 26   Mario is Missing Deluxe           52
 A Christmas Carol (FTL)           53   Mario Missing w/World Atlas (OEM) 24
 A Hard Day's Night (Mac)          34   Mario Teaches Typing            Call
 A Line in the Sand                34   Masterpiece Library               36
 A Silly Noisy House (Mac)         49   Matinee Screen Saver              43
 A+ Grade Builder                  34   Mavis Beacon Teach Typing (MPC)   65
 About Cows                        25   Mavis Beacon Typing (MPC) (OEM)   20
 AD&D Dark Sun: Shattered Lands    69   Mayo Clinic (MPC)                 20
 AD&D Dungeon Hack                 45   Mayo Clinic (Mac)                 24
 AD&D Fantasy Empires              59   Mega A/V                          26
 ADA Programming                   20   Mega Movie Guide                  39
 Adobe Type on Call                81   Microsoft Beethoven: 9'th Symph.  57
 Adobe Type on Call (Windows)      83   Microsoft Bookshelf v1993        149
 Adventures                        40   Microsoft Bookshelf '93 upgrade   50
 Adventures in Heaven              15   Microsoft Bookshelf '93 (OEM)     39
 Adventures of Pinocchio (MAC)     59   Microsoft Cinemania (MPC)         57
 Adventures of Willy Beamish       54   Microsoft Dinosaurs               69
 Adventures of Willy Beamish (OEM) 17   Microsoft Encarta '94             95
 Aesop's Fables (eBook)            40   Microsoft Golf                    49
 Ageis Guardian Fleet              69   Microsoft Mozart                  69
 AGFA Intro PAC - 20 Typefaces     82   Microsoft Multimedia Viewer      349
 Air Warrier                       58   Microsoft Musical Instruments     58
 Aircraft Encyclopedia             27   Microsoft Office for Mac v3.0    599
 Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp    34   Microsoft Office for Windows     599
 All American Sports               44   Microsofr Office Pro for Windows 699
 All Music Guide                   57   Microsoft Stravisky               69
 Aloha, Hawaii!                    20   Microsoft Visual C++ Pro v1.0    399
 Altsys Virtuoso for Solaris v1.0 595   Microsoft Multimedia Word v2.0   429
 Amanda Stories                    41   Microsoft Works                  159
 Amanda Stories (Mac)              49   Microsoft Works (OEM)             39
 Amazing Universe (PC/Mac)         59   Middle East Diary                 26
 America Alive Guidisc (Mac)       87   MIDI Connection                   53
 American Business Phone Book '92  15   MIDI Music Shop for Windows       17
 American Business Phone Book '93  25   Might and Magic: World of Xeen    59
 American Heritage Ilus Ency Dict  50   Mixed Up Mother Goose             54
 American Journey 1896-1945        49   Mixed Up Mother Goose (OEM)       17
 American Vista Atlas (MPC)        30   Monarch Notes                     48
 American Vista Atlas (Mac)        60   Money, Money, Money!              29
 America's Premier Shareware       14   Monster Disk (2 discs)            35
 Americans in Space (PC/Mac)       59   Monster Media '93                 23
 Aminet                            17   Monster Media '93 #2              29
 Anecdotes v.1                     15   Mosaic Magic                      27
 Anecdotes v.2                     15   Mother Earth II                   30
 Anecdotes v.3                     15   Mother of All Clip Art            14
 Anglo-Saxons                      44   Movie Select                      55
 Animals Encyclopedia (MPC)        30   Movie Select (Mac)                55
 Animals in Motion                 40   Movies on TV and Videotape        34
 Animals of San Diego Zoo (MPC)    69   Mowgli's Brothers                 36
 Animals of San Diego Zoo (Mac)    68   Mozart Multimedia Musicbook       37
 Animals San Diego Zoo (DOS) (OEM) 19   Mozart Multimedia Musicbook (Mac) 38
 Animals San Diego Zoo (MPC) (OEM) 21   Mozart: Dissonant Quartet         49
 Animation Festival (MPC)          26   MPC Wizard                        14
 Animation Festival (MPC) (OEM)    20   Multi Bible                       59
 Annabel's Dream of Ancient Egypt  55   Multimedia Audio Collection       30
 Arctic Baron                      39   Multimedia Computor Tutor         17
 Arthur Teacher Trouble (MPC)      56   Multimedia Environments           23
 Arthur Teacher Troubl (MPC) (OEM) 22   Multimedia Handisc (Mac)          87
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble (Mac)    49   Multimedia Magic Collection       15
 ASP Advantage                     20   Murder Makes Strange Deadfellows  46
 Aster*X Base v2.1 for Sun OS     579   Murmurs of Earth (3 discs)        46
 Aster*X Power Pack for Sun OS    819   My Advanced Label Designer        54
 Astrology Source (PC/Mac)         59   The Myst (Mac)                    69
 Atlas of U.S. Presidents          26   National Parks (MPC)              20
 Audio Collection (MPC)            17   Nautilus Backpack Vol.I           44
 Audioshop (Mac)                   75   Nautilus Backpack Vol.II          44
 Audubon's Birds                   18   Nautilus Backpack Vol. III        49
 Audubon's Mammals (MPC)           18   Nautilus Best of Photography      53
 Authorware Star                   34   Nebula                            27
 Autodesk Explorer                 85   NEXTStep for Intel               649
 B17 Flying Fortress/S. Service II 40   New Basics Electronic Cookbook    58
 Baccus and Comus                  50   New Basics Electronic Cookb (OEM) 29
 Backroad Racers                   59   New Kids on the Block             50
 Baker's Dozen Game Pack Windows   16   New Kids on the Block (Mac)       50
 Barney Bear Goes to School        15   New York at it's Best             23
 Barney Bear Goes to Space         15   New Zeland Birds                  29
 Barron's Book Notes               30   Newsweek Interactive              25
 Baseball's Greatest Hits (Mac)    59   Night Before Chrismas             27
 Battle Chess (original) (OEM)     20   Night Owl Business Software       20
 Battle Chess (enhanced) (OEM)     24   Night Owl Games                   19
 Battle Chess (enhanced) (Mac)     68   Night Owl Graphics                24
 Beauty and the Beast              36   Night Owl 9                       24
 Beauty and the Beast (OEM)        17   Night Owl 10                      29
 Beethoven: The 9'th Symphony      79   North American Fax Phonebook      27
 Berlitz Thnk Tlk French (7 disc) 109   North American Indians            26
 Berlitz T & T German (7 disc)    109   NOVA (for NeXT)                   20
 Berlitz T & T Italian (7 disc)   129   Novell Unixware Personal ed.     209
 Berlitz T & T Spanish (7 disc)   129   Novell Unixware Development kit  499
 Best Business                     23   Novell Unixware Personal Util.'s 209
 Best of Microprose                24   Nutcracker                        30
 Better H&G Hlthy Cooking (PC/Mac) 57   Ocean in Motion (QT)              60
 Beyond the Wall of Stars          27   Oceans Below                      26
 Bible Lands and Stories           40   Officer's Bookcase                25
 Bible Library                     24   Oldies but Goodies                16
 Bibles and Religion               12   Orchestra (Mac)                   67
 Biblio-Tech                       20   Oregon Trail                      55
 Bicycle CD-ROM Collection         39   Original Shareware 1992           10
 Blue Force                        46   OS/2 v2.1                        179
 Book of Lists #3 (PC/Mac)         75   OS/2 v2.1 Upgrade                 99
 Book of Lists #3 (PC/Mac) (OEM)   40   Our House (Family Circus)         45
 Boris Vallejo Fantasy Art         48   Our Solar System                  12
 Brain Drain                       14   Oxford English Reference Library  94
 Bridge Deluxe w/ Omar Sharif      65   Pacific Islands                   30
 Britain at it's Best              24   Patrician                         45
 Britannica Select Software        16   PC & DOS Introductory Module      13
 Business Assistant                10   PC Game Room                      18
 Business Backgrounds              31   PC Medic                          17
 Business Backgrounds (OEM)        20   PC-SIG #12                        20
 Business CD                       29   PC-SIG #13                      Call
 Business Library v.1              46   
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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 8400
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/09/93  9:29a
Subj: CD Price List                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thank you to all of you who have requested our Price Listing.  The
response has been overwhelming!

We are in the process of compiling our list in an Electronic Catalog
format, complete with the built-in ability to order via modem.  It won't
take too much longer to finish.  Look for it in the mail soon!

Best Regards,

Hayden Bradshaw
HRB Computer Services
(905) 830-1615 / Order (Canada): 1-800-265-7081
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From: JOHN LITTLE                            Number: 8401
  To: MARK LEHR                                Date: 12/08/93  7:55p
Subj: Sony CDU-31 single spin C               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How many of these drives can be controlled by a single controller?  And are
there drivers for OS/2 2.1?
John

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From: CHRIS SMART                            Number: 8402
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/09/93  6:48p
Subj: INFOCOM & REF STUFF                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can I get disks of the Infocom games?

Also, could someone give me a price on the Library of the Future disks,
and Magazine Rack?

Thanks,
Chris.
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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 8403
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/07/93  4:15p
Subj: SOUND EFFECTS LIBRARY                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Brice,

Thanks for the info, but these are new ones.
Glad to know I am still competative for some of my prices!


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 8404
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 12/09/93  6:02a
Subj: Amateur Models for trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Gene, thanks but I was looking for an adult disc.

Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 8405
  To: ART MARKO                                Date: 12/09/93  6:56a
Subj: CD'S 4 SALE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AM>My Private Collection 1 (XXX) - $21
AM>My Private Collection 2 (XXX) - $21


AM>No COD's, will UPS, insured (trades considered for XXX only)

Art, I have the new Amateur Models and will trade for either of the
above two discs.  The disc is in perfect condition and only viewed once.

Randy 1:309/71

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 8406
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 12/09/93  7:01a
Subj: CD Trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Kevin, I have the new Amateur Models for trade for any adult disc with
gif (no animation) files on it.

Randy Neuner


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 8407
  To: MICHAEL COLLIER                          Date: 12/11/93  7:27a
Subj: Asian Ladies Warning!!                  Refer: 11858
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> AS>MC>     Someone should make up a disc of Right Wing C__ksuckers an
-> AS>MC>
-> AS>MC> call it "FAR RIGHT FAGS" or "SMALL MINDS BIG D__KS!"
-> AS>MC>
-> AS>MC>     But you know, they'd probably have a problem with finding
-> AS>MC> Wingers with big enough BALLS . . . Maybe they could could shi
-> AS>MC> complementary magnification program with the disc.
-> AS>MC>
-> AS>MC>     Just a suggestion . .
-> AS>
-> AS>Why are these messages allowed to continue?  I'm a right winged co
-> AS>and proud of it.
->
->
->    Well then you must be aware of the situation! I mean, we can't hav
-> guys posting messages putting down people like yourself just because
-> your sexual preference. Some of my best friends are Co__ksuckers, Ooo
-> mean Gay, like yourself. It's terrible that small minded people shoul
-> have such strongly held, violent reactions against people like yourse
->    I really admire you for coming out and declaring your sexual prefe
-> for all to see. That must take alot of guts. Alot more guts than it t
-> to throw around ignorant insults.

Yall end this thread.  Discussion of sexual preferences is not only
off-topic, it's also none of our business.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 8408
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/11/93  7:47a
Subj: NATURE GRAPHICS I                       Refer: 11864
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> >                    Nature Graphics I CD ROM
-> >                    ------------------------
-> >             Distribution begins on December 8, 1993
->
->  But what's the PRICE?

I don't advertise my wholesale pricing in public forums... If you want
pricing, call & I'll fax um to you.

Data Express, Inc.    Voice: 404-621-9210
6799 Windfaire Dr.    FAX  : 404-621-9122
Norcross, GA 30093    Fido : 1:133/515

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 8409
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/11/93  7:47a
Subj: CD STORAGE BOXES WANT                   Refer: 11865
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->  That is NOT the case - every jewel case I have seen sold by such sou
-> include the insert. And $1 with NO INSERT is a blatant ripoff.

No it's not.  Knowing that jewell cases cost $0.25 each, that leaves
only $0.75 profit per case.  Sell 100 jewell cases & you'll make a
whopping $75.00.... Instead of this hassle you could sell 5 CDs and
make the same amount of money.

Most dealers have better things to do with their time than piddling
around with jewell cases, hence the pricing.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 8410
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/11/93  7:53a
Subj: CENSORSHIP                              Refer: 11866
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->  Censorship is NO MORE than a different form of slavery - and is EQUA
-> in that a censor would attempt to enslave your MIND, not just your bo

It's worse than slavery because religious dogma is often used as
justification for the censorship.

Censorship is nothing more than a *tool* used by governments to exert
*control* over the people.  As government's control increases, our
ability to eliminate the control decreases.  With censorship, the
swine who run our governments are able to keep their jobs and
perpetuate their censorship/control agendas.

tim
libertarian
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From: CHRISTOPHER SLOAN                      Number: 8411
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/08/93  1:23a
Subj: CDROMs Wanted (games)                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for some good CDROM games (no shareware). If you have any for sale
leave me a message.
Chris


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From: DANNY TSENG                            Number: 8412
  To: G. LARRY WEBB                            Date: 12/07/93 10:55p
Subj: MICROSOFT BOOKSHELF                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 GLw> I have a copy of the 1992 BookShelf; it is the one 
 GLw> included with soundblaster multimedia upgrade kits.... 
 GLw> I'm asking $25 plus $2.90 shipping if you prepay with 
        Hi, I have gotten one. Sorry...

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From: MATT MAHONEY                           Number: 8413
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/08/93  4:45p
Subj: CDROMS and sound.                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone know if you need a Soundblaster Pro or 16 to play music on a CDROM
or can you plug some computer speakers in to the headphone jack of the CDROM?
Thank you.



     -Matt



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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 8414
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/06/93  6:49a
Subj: PowerBox II                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

OK boys and girls.  Damar Enterprises announces ANOTHER new release! 
 
                          The CD PowerBox Version 2.00 
 
We just went to press on this and it is scheduled for shipment to the better 
dealers in this echo on December 15, 1993.  The disk has been checked against 
itself, Pier3 and NOWL10 for duplication (and virsus, of course). 
 
The % dupes between PowerBox2 and NOWL10 - 7.94% 
                                  PIER3  - 12.85% 
 
So, why would you be interested in the PowerBox 2 over these other 2?  Well, 
first off, the PowerBox 2 has NEWER files!  As new as November 13, 1993! 
 
Second off, the PowerBox 2 has over 500 MORE files than the NOWL10 disk and,
get 
this folks, over 1000 more than PIER3!  These are the NEWEST and GREATEST files

available right now AND IN TIME FOR CHRISTMAS.  OK, that's it from me - contact

your favorite dealer for pre-orders and if they don't carry the PowerBox 2,
tell 
them to call us for dealer pricing!! 
 
Oh yeah, almost forgot - the PowerBox 2 features the UNIVERSAL INTERFACE!  This

is a GUI based on the need by YOU for a single standard front end for your 
various different shareware disks!  No longer do you need to mess around with 
the others' GUI, use the UNIVERSAL INTERFACE - found ONLY on Damar Enterprises 
CD-ROMS. 
 
Now back to the usual stuff, 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
The CD PowerBox Guys! 
 
 
  
... Damar Enterprises - Home of the UNIVERSAL INTERFACE! 
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 8415
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/07/93  6:18a
Subj: PowerBox II                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

OK boys and girls.  Damar Enterprises announces ANOTHER new release! 
 
                          The CD PowerBox Version 2.00 
 
We just went to press on this and it is scheduled for shipment to the better 
dealers in this echo on December 15, 1993.  The disk has been checked against 
itself, Pier3 and NOWL10 for duplication (and virsus, of course). 
 
The % dupes between PowerBox2 and NOWL10 - 7.94% 
                                  PIER3  - 12.85% 
 
So, why would you be interested in the PowerBox 2 over these other 2?  Well, 
first off, the PowerBox 2 has NEWER files!  As new as November 13, 1993! 
 
Second off, the PowerBox 2 has over 500 MORE files than the NOWL10 disk and,
get 
this folks, over 1000 more than PIER3!  These are the NEWEST and GREATEST files

available right now AND IN TIME FOR CHRISTMAS.  OK, that's it from me - contact

your favorite dealer for pre-orders and if they don't carry the PowerBox 2,
tell 
them to call us for dealer pricing!! 
 
Oh yeah, almost forgot - the PowerBox 2 features the UNIVERSAL INTERFACE!  This

is a GUI based on the need by YOU for a single standard front end for your 
various different shareware disks!  No longer do you need to mess around with 
the others' GUI, use the UNIVERSAL INTERFACE - found ONLY on Damar Enterprises 
CD-ROMS. 
 
Now back to the usual stuff, 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
The CD PowerBox Guys! 
 
 
  
... Damar Enterprises - Home of the shareware CD-boxes! 
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From: DAN GUILLORY                           Number: 8416
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/08/93 10:17p
Subj: SPECIAL                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can you give me a price on the following

Cream Of The Crop II
Busty Babes II

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From: TIM HUTTO                              Number: 8417
  To: ALAN LE                                  Date: 12/09/93  3:28p
Subj: Re: SONY DUEL CDROM DRIVE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Alan Le to Jared Stein <=-

 > HAVE SONY DUEL CDROM DRIVE FOR SALE
 > $375 OR TRADE FOR BIG HARD DRIVE
 > CALL JARED 804-588-8324

 AL> I'm interested.  Could you tell me the ms and KB transfer rate?  Also,
 AL> does it need caddies and is it internal or external?

 AL> Alan       
 AL> -!- TBBS v2.1/NM
 AL>  ! Origin: Sacramento Live - Sacramento, CA (1:203/555)

     Just to let you know, that the Sony CD-ROMS are NOT SoundBlaster
   compatible.  They have a headphone jack on the front plate with volume
  control, but that is it.  So you are stuck with its own power.  

   Questy


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From: LEO MULVIHILL                          Number: 8418
  To: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN                       Date: 12/08/93 11:07p
Subj: Re: Popular Titles                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I was sure that I put the private switch on it.... OH Well it is almost at the
limit anyway...

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From: GLEN KELLY                             Number: 8419
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/09/93 12:29p
Subj: CD wanted!                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a GIF CD for my BBS.  Specifically, I'm looking for a GIF disk
that has a bit of each type of GIF (G, PG, R, NC-17, & XXX).  It should be
FILES.BBS Compat.  I do not need a disk with a bunch of Shareware or other
executables, I'm just looking for GIFs.  All suggestions & leads appreciated! 
-Glen-

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From: KAREN SANDERS                          Number: 8420
  To: WATKINS                                  Date: 12/09/93  6:43p
Subj: Return Message                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey Joe,

It's been hell here today.... goin to Mom's, just got out of therapy a little
bit ago. Looks like DTEL is down for the count, PP too!  GEEZ! Guess by now
you're in la la land...grin.  Well, I never made it on any board today, either
down or busy. I am packing and taking the kids with me for tonite.  You should
have seen the numbers and notes i made him give me out of his pocket!  I was
amazed.... he is truely stalking me and i told him.  He said that I am to tell
you to meet him at nine in the morn at dtech and i told him i am goin to
security and informing them of the situation and to escort him out.  It is a
VEEEERRRRRYYYY Long story. We really need to talk. I am home for a bit if you
get this message early enough, call me.  I will be in and out for a
while...keep trying but don't leave a message on the machine...I will answer
it if i am home.  You can call prob until about 11.  Oh well, have some
packing to do......laterz.

KAREN

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 8421
  To: MICHAEL HAIP                             Date: 12/09/93  4:37p
Subj: XXX RATED CD WANTED                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Michael Haip to All <=-

 MH> Anyone out there want to tell me what the raunchiest cdrom out there
 MH> is  and where it can be picked up? Thanks....

 MH> P.S. Is anyone out there seeing my messages, I keep posting them but
 MH> never  get any replies.  Just trying to find out if there is a problem
 MH> with the  bbs.

Hands down, Windy City Freedom Fortress' (a.k.a. NixPix) Hot Pix #1. Hard 
to find ('cuz it contains some blatantly illegal material) and relatively 
expensive. Try Goosebump Graphics (advertises in the back of Computer Shopper 
and other computer mags) or the WCFF BBS itself (somewhere near Chicago, 
I think). WARNING: This CD is *NOT* for the casual porno fan; it contains some
truly "fringe" material that will appeal to only a very tiny number of people
and will revolt and disgust all the rest. PROCEED WITH CAUTION!!		

Also, a number of people have experienced some difficulty with their CD drives
being able to read this CD, or at least some portions of it. In particular,
some of the older Mitsumi drives and some Tandy drives seem to have these 
problems.

FWIW: This is the first of your messages that I recall seeing.
... A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer.
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From: GREG MILLS                             Number: 8422
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/08/93  6:46p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Looking for some used CD Roms for my IBM.  Anyone up here in Canada have 
 something old you wanna sell?  Should have the original box and docs.
 Leave me a message here with what you have and where you are located.
 Prefer Southern Ontario, but I have been know to get lost.
... Does anyone know where the light switch is?
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From: BILL TURNER                            Number: 8423
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/09/93 11:24p
Subj: Sony CDROM Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking to buy new, used, or reconditioned, warranted against being DOA, Sony
CDU 535 or CDU 510 CDROMs. Preferably external with cables.  Cards not
required.

Thanks,

Bill

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From: MIKE BARROW                            Number: 8424
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/09/93  9:53p
Subj: Wanted microsoft multimed               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like to purchase or trade for any of (or all) of the following
Microsoft Multimedia CD's:

Musical Instruments
Beethoven - 9th Symphony
Mozart
Stravinsky

Leave a reply or call Mike at [904]791-6282 or 641-5059 after 6 and weekends...

Thanks,
                   Mike......................sent 12-09-1993

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From: STEPHEN FENNER                         Number: 8425
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 12/09/93  3:46p
Subj: price list                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

No problem i would love to have one of your price lists.
thanks
Stephen Fenner
RR#2 Hubbards
Halifax Co. NS
B0J-1T0
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From: JOE BURKE                              Number: 8426
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/09/93  5:35a
Subj: Adult CD trade wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested in trading ANIMATION FANTASIES rated-XXX. Premium adult
computer animations CD.
Will trade for XXX rated Gifs or other good CD. 

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From: CHRIS CONKLIN                          Number: 8427
  To: ADAM LEVY                                Date: 12/10/93 12:08p
Subj: On its Way!                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Fellow Texan

   You free CD-ROM catalog from the company who does everything in their power
to match or beat CD-ROM prices anywhere, is on its way.....

   You should get it in a few days.   Give me a call and we'll be more than
happy to get you set up!

TTYL

C-3 Production Systems
PO Box 60144
San Angelo, Tx   76906

915-944-7187

ask for Chris   (Thanks!)

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From: CHRIS CONKLIN                          Number: 8428
  To: JOHN BRODERICK                           Date: 12/10/93 12:11p
Subj: External CD-ROM Kit                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi John

   If you give me some specs of what you are needing, I would be more than
happy to get something set up to fit your exact needs!

  You can give me a call or post here.  If you would like to mail me a letter
with the detail the address is below.  I could probably get you set up for
under $400.00 with standard MPC specs.

C-3 Production Systems
PO Box 60144
San Angelo, Tx   76906

915-944-7187   (Evenings are best)

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 8429
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/10/93  1:56p
Subj: Cd storage boxes wanted                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF> Commonly known as "jewel cases" - I sell 10 of them for $7
BF>shipping included to the U.S. IF prepaid.

Take 10 of them to Mansfield, and I'll buy them from you there.  That should
save you the shipping.  Bring a bigger selection of discs than those you had
last time we chatted.  :)

Only one other dealer was at Mansfield last year with jewel cases, and he ran
out rather quickly.

(I'll be working at the ARRL table.)

73,

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

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From: CARL MONTANTE                          Number: 8430
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 12/10/93  5:35p
Subj: Night Owl 8 4Sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
$16.00                                                   $16.00
 
            Night Owls V.8  3 CD-ROM Disk Set
ÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ
 
           I have the Night Owl V.8 Disk for Sale. 
           I have upgraded this disk and no longer 
           need it.

 
                 PRICE $16.00 + Shipping
 
         Reply Here or Call My BBS (503)635-3712
 
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From: PAUL ADAMS                             Number: 8431
  To: LEO MULVIHILL                            Date: 12/09/93  9:58a
Subj: CD's for Sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Leo Mulvihill to All <=-

 LM> Microsoft Bookshelf for Windows 1992 edition

 LM> Make offer

 $20 shipped?
                Paul.

... "Transporter chief Mulvihill, beam the landing party to the bridge"
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From: LEO MULVIHILL                          Number: 8432
  To: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN                       Date: 12/09/93 12:04a
Subj: Re: Popular Titles                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WTM> LM> If you accept here is my MC # ****-****-****-**** exp 1/94

WTM> LM> My voice # is 215-453-8338 before 2 eastern.

WTM> Just thought you would like to know that you have just broadcast your
WTM> credit card not only nationwide but worldwide. I did not repeat your
WTM> number in order not to compound the problem.


Well as far as I know it was marked as private. Oh well there is not
much left on it anyways


Leo

Thanks!
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From: LEO MULVIHILL                          Number: 8433
  To: G. LARRY WEBB                            Date: 12/09/93 12:04a
Subj: Cd'S For Sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GLW>I'll offer $10 plus $3 shipping for MS Works on CD ROM.



I'll pass on that offer


Leo
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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 8434
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/09/93  5:49a
Subj: CD's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD's for sale
Carmen Sandiego 15.00
ST Encyclopedia MPC with full motin video 20.00
also have 2 SVGA cards with 1 meg (8900c) (ET4000)
and CD ROM player Mitsumi 150k transfer internal 150.00 OBO!
1 Sounblaster (regular 2.0) 60.00 OBO!

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From: PAUL CHATFIELD                         Number: 8435
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 12/07/93 11:17a
Subj: Holiday Specials on Night               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RH> COD upon request.  Shipping (USPS 2nd day priority) is $3 on all orders.
 RH> COD is $4 additional.  Give us a call (leave a message 
 RH> if we aren't around),
 RH> or you can call TCM BBS and use our online ORDER Door 
 RH> for Visa/MC purchases.
 RH> For COD, call voice, leave a message here, or call the BBS and leave a
 RH> Comment to the Sysop.  You can also Fax us your Visa/MC or COD orders.
would love to get a cataloge and be on the mailing list too

Paul Chatfield
#15-01 the octagon
105 Cecil ST
Singapore (0106)
SINGAPORE

What are you overseas shipping charges too? airmail!

Thanks ...look forward to getting the mail.


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From: JERRY CORNELIUS                        Number: 8436
  To: ART MARKO                                Date: 12/09/93  1:07p
Subj: Adult Cds Sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AM>KM>25 dollars each + shipping or even trade for other CD's adult or not!

AM>Will trade for Visual Fantasies
AM>any of the following
AM>My Private Collection 1 or 2
AM>FAO 2
AM>Storm 1
AM>XXX Extreme

I'll give you $25 for Storm 1 or FAO2.

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From: SYSOP                                  Number: 8437
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 12/10/93 12:13a
Subj: Initial Message                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

This message initalizes this conference (FNPACK)! 
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From: PAUL SCHIFFERLI                        Number: 8438
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 12/09/93 11:58p
Subj: Censorship                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I guess you missed the point.  I do not purchase any of the XXX material
myself.  I just do not like the Idea that someone can effect what is
available to the public by using their position.  I appreciate that it
is their playpen and they can make the rules ( as you do ).  But they
accepted the adds during the beginning years of the magazine.  Why the
change now.  Are they being more politically correct now ?.  My crack
about the Female editor was out of line.  However, it seems that the
females are at the forefront of efforts to eliminate so called
Pornography.  It's the same old problem.  WHO DEFINES WHAT IS
ACCEPTABLE ??  I do not give YOU that right.  I still make those
decisions for myself.

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From: KEVIN HOLMAN                           Number: 8439
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 12/10/93  9:32a
Subj: CD encyclopedia                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RL> KH>I have software toolworks encyclopedia
RL> KH> for sale.  New and still in plastic with manual
RL> KH>---$15.
RL> 
RL> DOS or Windows version??

Sorry, the CD has already sold.  I think it WAS the
  windows version.  I hadn't opened it yet.

KH

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From: DANNY BRIGANCE                         Number: 8440
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/09/93 11:13p
Subj: Bible CD's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Pat!

Wednesday December 08 1993, Pat Rickerson writes to Danny Brigance:

 PR> Will take it please send address
 PR> Pat

Give me a call at (817)244-3296 any day before noon and I will give you my
address.  Later....

Danny

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 8441
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 12/09/93 12:48p
Subj: Re: Blaine Richard                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <12-05-93 06:35> Randy Neuner wrote:

RN>> Lee, thanks for the response, I did not know you knew this
RN>> individual.

Glad to have helped--He and I have gone our separate ways, and we have no
contact with one another now, so let's say I know of this individual.

RN>> Sorry for the outburst but I have not rec a thing from him.  Again I
RN>> talked to him on Sat the 5th and again got another promise.  We will
RN>> see.  Thanks.

No need to apologize. I know I speak my mind :)--I hope you get your disc, and
if you do not, I will be more then willing to send you a disc, and hopefully I
have the one that you and Blaine negotiated for--No skin off my back--Give him
some time, and if you are still in this situation, let me know and I will go to
distribution and find you this disc you want--providing it was not one of our
titles no longer in publication :)

All The Best,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 8442
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 12/09/93 12:50p
Subj: Re: WOMEN ON WHEELS                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <12-07-93 11:30> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> Can hardly wait, Lee darlin'! Lookin' forward to being "WOWed" by
BJ>> Women On Wheels. If it's as good as you say, might have to go out and
BJ>> get
BJ>> ^     ^  ^
BJ>> myself a "sickle". ((:>

It's the best collection I have seen, and it gives the magazine quality back to
the end user (safely) which I think is part of the resistance to the new line
of products--All the grassroot disc's appear to have that mag quality, and it
took a little time, to bring this to the licensed disc arena--Think this disc
is gonna make some head way :)

Still looking at Jan release--You will get your copy ASAP--

Hugs,

Mw  
 
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From: RICHARD JOHNSON                        Number: 8443
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/09/93 11:23a
Subj: CD Speed                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone know of a program that will show the speed of a CD drive? All the
ones I have are for HDs and won't do "network" drives. Thanks.

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From: TIM MORGAN                             Number: 8444
  To: MICHAEL LIM                              Date: 12/06/93  9:16a
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ML>        Hey I'd like a full listing!  But, why are they so
ML> cheap!?  I bought King's Quest VI CD for about thirty
ML> dollars (tax included).  And this was the
ML> upgrade!  Thanks.





ML>                                                            
ML> Michael Lim

ML> ---
ML>  * Origin: End of the Line. (703)720-1624 in Stafford, Va.
ML> (1:274/16)
Micheal I'm not selling any CD Roms you must have me confused with someone
else.
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From: KEI LAU                                Number: 8445
  To: NISSE HAAK                               Date: 12/08/93 11:41a
Subj: Re: Buying a CD-ROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 NH> Hello Everybody.
 NH> I've been thinking of buying a CD-ROM drive and You all seem to
 NH> have experience with the hardware (at least Your own).

   I have been using a Toshiba 3301 drive, 64K cache, 290 ms seek time
   and 155 KB/sec transfer rate (single speed).  The programs used
   most on the computer are Compton MPC Encyclopedia and Microsoft
   Dinosaurs.  The seek is fast and the video runs smoothly.  This or
   similar drive probably represents the minimum requirement for MPC
   application.

 NH> So, my question is:

 NH> If You were to start all over again, what sort of things do I
 NH> need to look for. Dual Speed, KODAK Photo compability, External
 NH> or Internal, ?, ....?

   Well, it depends on your application and how deep your pocket is.
   If the sole purpose is to bring software update online, you should
   buy the least expensive drive .  If you want to run multimedia and
   are not limited in budget, get a NEC Multispin 3X drive with an
   Adaptec bus mastering host adapter (model depends on you
   motherboard bus).  In between, the priority of features are:
   (1) 64K cache minimum, 256K perferred.  This is the most important
   feature to get smoothly video clip runs.
   (2) 300 ms seek time minimum, 200 ms perferred.  This gives you
   fast access to data.  Double spin/transfer rate does not seem to
   have a strong impact on most operations.
   (3) Caddy based drive.  You are unlikely to have more than one
   dirve or use only one CD-ROM.  Caddy allows safe handling of
   the CD for fast switching.  Motor tray drives are usually much
   cheaper, but they cut corners in more than one way.
   (4) SCSI bus.  Proprietry controllers are more likely to lose
   support in the future.
   (5) Dual or triple spin is the wave of the future, but current
   software does not show much difference in performance.  They are
   not a requirement, but there is no reason not to get a dual or
   triple spin drive unless there is a large cost difference.
   (6) Most current model are Kodak Photo-CD compatible, but you don't
   need it to run commercial software.

 NH> Well, I hope at least one of You guys can give me some advice.
 NH> Thanks for Your assistance..
 NH> Nisse Haak
 NH> Sweden.

   Come back and share your experience after your purchase.

Kei Lau

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From: STEWART GAY                            Number: 8446
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 12/09/93 10:18p
Subj: Sale                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am intrested in buying cream of the crop II. You said that you have
rbbs fms files list for this can I get a small part of this fms list
say 10 files to view and if it is formated with extended discriptions
and oldest file date on top I will buy the disk from you.
Thanks Stewart Gay..

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From: RICHARD LEIGHTON                       Number: 8447
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 12/08/93  5:08p
Subj: Re: Return To Zork CD 4 Sale            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Heather Krause to All <=-

 HK> Return To Zork on CD for sale. Includes original packaging &
 HK> docs. Asking $35 plus $3 postage (no postage if you're in the
 HK> Kansas City area and can pick up).
 HK> 
 HK> Leave message here or call 913-888-5201 ext.257 (M-F 8a-4p
 HK> Central time, or leave voice mail).
 HK> 
 HK> - Heather
 HK> -!-
 HK> * DeLuxe* 1.12 #2986 * If you drink, don't drill
 HK> -!- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff013/c]
 HK>  ! Origin: Sound Advice - 24 Nodes (816)436-4516 (1:280/333)
 HK> 15

Hi Heather, I was wondering If the CD Version is Different from
the Disk Version. How Many Megs on the CD is used ? It's about
23 megs after installing from 3.5 disks.
                                        Thanks
                                        Richard

... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 8448
  To: GENE MILLSAPS                            Date: 12/09/93 11:22p
Subj: Re: encarta for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Gene Millsaps to Eddie Phillips <=-

 EP>Are you aware that the $80 price is only good until the end of the year ?

 EP>The difference here is I think Encarta is a pretty decent product.

 GM> Makes sense.  We're glad that you think it's a good product, as we
 GM> bought it a few days ago.

yup, it's pretty decent, but not for high school and above, in my opinion, as
a lot of the articles are not very comprehensive as Groliers is, but I don't
have high schoolers.....yet <grin>

... MicroSoft: using yesterday's technology tomorrow.
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8449
  To: MIKE GRIFFIN                             Date: 12/09/93  1:21a
Subj: CD GUIDE FREE W/ $100+ PR               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG> MS>            |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
MG> MS>            |____________________________________________________|
MG> MS>             _______________________________    _________________
MG> MS>            |                               |  |                 |
MG> MS>            | Title:  THE CD-ROM OF CD-ROMS |  |   Price:  $29   |
MG> MS>            |_______________________________|  |_________________|

MG> MS>                     >>> FREE w/ any $100 CD purchase <<<

MG> MS>                          WITH ANY CD-ROM PURCHASE..........$9
MG> MS>                         *WITH ANY $100 CD-ROM PURCHASE...FREE

MG>Mike, It never fails.. Right after I receive an order from ya... :(

Sorry about that Mike.......I guess timing is everything in this ever-
changing game. 8)  Tell ya what, remind me on your next order, and I'll
throw one in for free, regardless of the order total.  Fair enough?

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8450
  To: CHARLIE JARMAN                           Date: 12/09/93  1:21a
Subj: CD-ROM DIRECTORY ON CD!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CJ>        Mike, I see most of the other vendors are allowing trades for
CJ>        the infected NOv10 disc, but have seen nothing from you.

We have taken a few back in trade, but from the information I read from Ray
Herold at TCM, (he prepares the CD's for Night Owl's), they prefer to have
you send the CD directly to them for exchange.  The address is:

             Night Owl Publisher
             1611 Falconer Stillwater Rd.
             Jamestown, NY  14701

You can ship it to me if you prefer, but it may take a little longer, as I
don't have the recut version in stock yet.  Your choice.

CJ>        latent files and still sold the disc. I would hate to think
CJ>        you'd do this. So, please tell me what's up.

I did sell some (like everyone else) before I knew the viruses existed on
the CD, but after the reports were confirmed, I only sold a few to people
who either were aware of the problem, or who I made aware of it.  Quite
frankly, I'm disgusted with the whole Night Owl scenario, with the continual
recuts, virus alerts, commercial files, on and on and on......and have not
been promoting the product.  Rumor has it that Night Owl's is now facing a
$600,000 (not $425,000) damage settlement, and it, along with the virus
problems will sink them.  Time will tell.............

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8451
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 12/09/93  1:21a
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices11/23/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RC> MS> Many a dealer has gone by the "cut 10, increase 10" philosophy, and
RC> MS> gone
RC> MS> out of business doing so.
RC> MS> Just somethin' to think about!  8)

RC>I hope you just keep thinking that way.......
RC>I prefer to allow my clients (and 20 years of selling) tell me how to make
RC>my market.

I intend to keep thinking that way, as it has served me well through my 13
years of retail, both as a part-owner of a camera store, and as the head
honcho at Starvector Software since 1987.  The continual yearly growth of
my businesses leads me to believe that I must be doing something right. <g>

To each his own I guess......

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8452
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 12/09/93  1:21a
Subj: Usa today 90's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LF> MS> USA Today: The 90's (New!)

LF>More info, please! (i.e. type of articles, search capabilities)

Hi nice lady......long time no speak!  Here's the info I have on it:

        Over 100,000 stories which have run in the "Nation's Newspaper"
        so far this decade.  Features complete USA Today text, graphics,
        photos and audio organized in the same key sections as the
        newspaper - News, money, sports, and life.

        Has a special in-depth focus on major historical news events,
        including the fall of Communism, the recession, and the war in
        the Persian Gulf.  Published by context.

Don't know if that answers all your questions, but as always, you're welcome
to try it and exchange it for something else if it doesn't meet your needs.

Give me a call and we can discuss further!

Later,
.\\ike
509-457-2892.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8453
  To: MICHAEL HAIP                             Date: 12/09/93  1:21a
Subj: XXX Rated CD Wanted                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MH>Anyone out there want to tell me what the raunchiest cdrom out there is
MH>and where it can be picked up? Thanks....

MH>P.S. Is anyone out there seeing my messages, I keep posting them but never
MH>get any replies.  Just trying to find out if there is a problem with the
MH>bbs.

Michael,

You're reaching good ol' Yakima, Washington just fine.  As for the
"raunchiest" CD available, rumor has it that it's Hot Pix 1, but I've
personally never seen it or carried it.  I believe Ron Urbassik at
Goosebump Graphics still sells them.  You can call him at 216-254-2609
or by Fax at: 216-254-1206.

Good luck,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8454
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 12/09/93  1:21a
Subj: cdroms                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HB>We have had it sent to us for review.  Must say it is probably one of
HB>the most macabre compilations I have ever seen!  In fact, we have
HB>refused to sell it and returned our discs.  But, if you really want it,
HB>it is available from the Profit Press.  Look for their ads in a variety
HB>of PC mags.

Interesting.  I've had a few customers request it, but I've never looked at
one.  What is it that makes it "macabre"?

Just curious,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8455
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/09/93  1:21a
Subj: A NEW CD ON CD'S!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           | Title:  THE CD-ROM OF CD-ROMS |  |   Price:  $29   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

                    >>> FREE w/ any $100 CD purchase <<<

     This Windows 3.1 multimedia CD is a directory of over 4000 CD-ROM
     titles, nearly 5000 companies (with contact information), almost
     2000 industry movers & shakers, and close to 600 critical,
     professional reviews of CD-ROM titles.  It is written for Windows
     3.1 in a multimedia relational database, with SVGA color pictures
     of titles & screen shots, with motion, sound, and musical tracks
     from some of the leading CD titles today!

                  VERY UP TO DATE!   RELEASED:  NOV 13 1993
     THIS CD-ROM REFERENCE HAS MORE LISTINGS THAN IT'S TWO COMPETITORS
                    WHICH COST HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS EACH!

     This outstanding reference tool has the standard info on each title,
     including publisher, price, addresses, etc., plus a large number of
     critical reviews to give you an in-depth knowledge of just what the
     title is about.  If you are thinking about buying ANY CD-ROM's in
     the near future, GET THIS DISC!!!

     ADDED BONUS:  Included on the CD is a full working copy of PC
                   KARAOKE, absolutely FREE!

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              PRICING:   CD-ROM of CD-ROM'S ALONE.........$29
                         WITH ANY CD-ROM PURCHASE..........$9
                        *WITH ANY $100 CD-ROM PURCHASE...FREE
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                 >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<
               * Closeouts and discounted items not included

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8456
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/09/93  1:21a
Subj: CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS                       Refer: NONE
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           ______________________________________________________
          |                                                      |
          |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #3:  CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS   |
          |______________________________________________________|

            We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
             - Cards are not processed until date of shipment -

 CD POWERBOX 2 * What's better and newer than NO10 or Pier 3? One guess.$29
 CD SOURCEBOX * Current code for VisualBasic, Pascal, and C.............$29
 DREAM MACHINE * A "Virtual Valerie" for PC's! "Adaptive" Interaction!..$59
 PC-SIG 13 * Newest CD from the oldest shareware distributor............$33

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8457
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/10/93 12:24a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 10 VIRUS REPORT               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I've been hearing a lot of talk by various people recently, concerning the
Night Owl 10 virus situation, and it seems like a recurring theme has been
that Night Owl's wasn't responsible for the viruses being on Night Owl 10,
because the version of SCAN they were using couldn't detect the two
viruses. (the Butterfly and Memory Lapse viruses)  Well folks, I did a
little poking around, and these are some files I found lurking in the
directories of Night Owl 10.0............

Here is an excerpt from the Night Owl 10.0 file listing.  These files are
included on the Night Owl 10 CD:

BUTTERFL.ZIP     1643  07-04-93  Facts and an /EXT file for McAfee for the new
                               | "Butterfly" virus  McAfee cannot detect this
                               | virus without the /EXT file  This virus
                               | infects only COM files but CLEAN CANNOT
                               | remove the infection; you must delete all
                               | infected files  The info in this file came
                               | directly from McAfee's BBS  Last revision
                               | date in archive: 07-04-1993 
SCANBFLY.ZIP      423  06-24-93  I M P O R T A N T External String To Use With
                               | Mcafee'S Scan To Check For The Butterfly
                               | Virus  Note: Scan V: 106 Does Not Find The
                               | Butterfly Virus So It Has To Be Scanned For
                               | Externally  Read The File For Instructions 
                               | Last revision date in archive: 06-24-1993 
SCANV108.ZIP   252954  09-15-93  McAfee's SCANVirus program v1.08

Now, someone correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm certainly not an expert
on this thing, but from this information, it would appear that Night Owl's
had all the resources they needed RIGHT THERE, IN HAND, to prevent these
viruses from getting onto the CD!  Am I missing something, or is that an
accurate conclusion?

I wanted to check the CD itself, to make sure that the file listing wasn't
a misprint or something, so I unzipped the SCANV108 file and read the file
inside called "VIRLIST.TXT", which lists all the viruses that the current
version of SCAN can detect.  Here is an excerpt from that listing, exactly
as it came from the Night Owl 10 CD-ROM:
  .
  .
  Burghofer [Bgh]            Clean-Up    . . x x x . . . . .     525  L O P
  Busted [Bst]               Clean-Up    . . . x x . . . . . Overwrites O P
  Butterfly [Bfly]           Clean-Up    . . . . x . . . . .     302  O P
  B_Ugly [BUG]               Clean-Up    . . . x x . . . . .     552  O P
  C [CV]                     Clean-Up    . . . . x x . . . .     N/A  O P
  .
  .
  Mem Lapse 323 [ML323]      Clean-Up    . . . . x . . . . .     323  O P
  Mem Lapse 375 [ML375]      Clean-Up    . x . . x . . . . .     375  O P
  Memory Lapse [ML]          Clean-Up    . . . x x x . . . .  Unknown O P
  Merry Xmas [mXs]           Clean-Up    . . x . . x . . . .   Varies O P
  Mexican Mud [Mex]          Clean-Up    . . . x x . . . . .     575  P L
  .
  .
Now, as I understand it, the two viruses found on the disc were the
"Butterfly", and the "Memory Lapse", so from this evidence, it seems
painfully obvious to me that if they had utilized the McAfee SCAN version
108 which they had in their possession, this virus infection would not have
happened.

Maybe I've missed something, or maybe I'm looking at this too
simplistically, so I welcome anyone's input or rebuttal if my analysis is
faulty.  Nonetheless, this new information is causing me to seriously
rethink my position on whether to stock Night Owl's products.  I'm starting
to believe that the risk involved with selling a CD product line from a
company with lackadaisical virus-checking practices, is just too high.

Mike Shannon
Starvector Software
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8458
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 12/10/93 12:24a
Subj: NIGHT OWL                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GF>CB>Any further word on the status of Night Owl? Are they going to make it
thr
GF>  >the legal battle you mentioned earlier? What are they being sued for?

GF>Chris, I had NO-10 but returned it for an exchange. As far as the legal
GF>battle is concerned, I know nothing. Perhaps your message was intended
GF>for someone else!

I'll be glad to interject here.  Night Owl's Publishing is being sued by
at least two parties that I know of.  The first one being the programmer
who wrote the user interface system, and the second being the gentleman
who was involved with the CD's when they were still called "CARRS".  As for
the current lawsuit with their programmer, apparently he is suing for
treble damages resulting from non-payment of his commission fees on the
discs that were sold.  Trial is reportedly over, with the exact dollar
amount of the judgement still forthcoming.  From the rumors I've heard,
it's in the half-million dollar vicinity. Ouch!

The second lawsuit apparently was initiated by Richard Graham's former
partner, who launched the whole Night Owl's campaign with his CARRS discs.
Haven't heard too many details on that one, but it's another big-figure
suit.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8459
  To: SETH HUTCHINS                            Date: 12/09/93  5:11p
Subj: Cdrom disc prices11/29/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 12-07-93 Seth Hutchins wrote to Richard Carter... 
 
 SH> -> Aminet Amiga...................$13.00 
 SH> -> Project Gutenberg..............$18.50 
 SH> -> Source Code....................$18.50 
 SH> -> X11/GNU........................$18.50 
 SH> -> Linux..........................$23.50 
 SH> Could you please detail what are on these CD-ROMs? I would really 
 SH> appreciate it. Reply here or Netmail at 1:228/81.1 
 
Too Much to write here.  If you want, give me an address and 
I'll send you descriptions. 
I keep getting asked for these descriptions, and they are 
very logical requests.  I just don't want to lock-up yards 
and yards, and tons and tons or net-system resources to send 
them here. 
If it's easier, call us at (612) 890-4750 and we'll read them 
to you or leave your address there. 
Thanks 
RC 
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8460
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/09/93  6:03p
Subj: CRDOM Disc Prices12/09/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>ComputerHelp is Happy to Announce We Are Currently< 
>Offering EMS Professional Software's CRDOM Discs!!!< 
 
If you are PC-based or Windows-based and Have Liked the 
Shareware & Utility CDROM Discs on the Market, We Believe 
You Will Really See Added Value in These Discs!!!  "WE DO!!!!" 
 
EMS Has Changed Their Format Recently and Made Their Discs 
Much More User Friendly.  We Don't Want To Take Too Much 
Space Here, But the EMS 2-Disc Set is $59.95 + shipping. 
 
If You Are Curious About the Discs, We Have a SPECIAL For YOU!!! 
We Have Sampler Single Disks (that are 1 rev -- or about 
2 months -- old).  They are the discs only, without the indexes, 
COMPLETELY FUNCTIONAL AND WITH ALL THE DATA!!! 
 
They include 
They include utilities and programs covering:  ASM, C, C++, 
AutoCAD, Xbase, DOS, Games, Hardware Demos, HomePC, Jokes, 
Multimedia, Netware, ObjectVision, Quick Basic, Paradox, 
Small Business, TrueType Fonts, TurboPascal, Visual Basic, 
Windows, and a PC Products Database. 
 
Personally, this disc has been a real resource for us in our 
computer room.  (Previously, it was just the way they handled 
their indexing that bothered us.)  They have changed that in the 
Current versions.  Remember, the Full-Fledged current versions 
are Currently $59.95 from EMS; Our Sale Price is $49.95. 
THESE VERY SPECIAL SINGLE DISC SAMPLERS ARE ON SALE FOR $12, 
INCLUDING SHIPPING! 
 
There are about 150 of these Sampler Single Discs currently available. 
 
As always, If You are Not Happy With Any Product from Us, We 
Will Take it Back within 30-days of date of purchase.  Your only 
expense would be freight/shipping. 
 
"WE WANT YOU HAPPY AND TO COME BACK THE NEXT TIME YOU ARE IN THE MARKET!" 
 
Thanks, 
Richard Carter 
___----------------------      ------------------      -------------------- 
 
 
            Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM Disc's 
 
          from:     ComputerHelp 
                    PO Box 385041 
                    Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
               Ph:  (612) 890-4750, (800) 514-7071 
                    Fax:  (612) 894-9411 
 
(as of 12/09/93) 
          SIMTEL MSDOS               $13.00 
          CICA MS Windows            $13.00 
          Hobbes OS/2                $13.00 
          Aminet Amiga               $13.00 
          Garbo MSDOS/Mac            $13.00 
          Sprite OS                  $13.00 
          QRZ! Ham Radio             $13.00

          ADA Programming            $18.50 
          GIGA Games                 $18.50 
          La Coleccion               $18.50 
          Nova for NeXTs             $18.50 
          Project Gutenberg          $18.50 
          Source Code                $18.50 
          X11/GNU                    $18.50 
          Info-Mac                   $25.50 
          CUG Library                $23.50 
          Linux                      $23.50 
          Libris Britannia           $34.00 
          Space and Astronomy        $18.50 
 
                  ***SPECIAL***SPECIAL***SPECIAL*** 
     =>>> Order 3 at once and take an Extra $1 Off of Each <<<= 
        (Limited Time Offer!!! Print and enclose this ad with 
                your order.  Good through 12/31/93!!!!) 
 
Shipping:      1-3 discs in one order = $4.50, 4-10 discs in one 
order = $6.50. 
          (MN residents add 6.5% sales tax). 
 
          All prices subject to change without notice. 
          "Yes Mildred, we do take personal cheques!" 
 
All orders by pre-payment, (you want cheap prices....); send to 
address above.  Call with any questions.  (Sorry, we don't accept 
credit cards:  they add to the 
    price and we want to be able to offer you the CHEAPEST PRICES 
   AVAILABLE.  "Thank You for Your Support!!!    -  Richard Carter 
                             ORDER FORM 
 
YES!  Please accept my order for: 
 
  Quantity          Item:         Price Each:   Extension: 
     : 
            SIMTEL MSDOS          $13.00 
            CICA MS Windows       $13.00 
            Hobbes OS/2           $13.00 
            Aminet Amiga          $13.00 
            Garbo MSDOS/Mac       $13.00 
            Sprite OS             $13.00 
            QRZ! Ham Radio        $13.00 
            ADA Programming       $18.50 
            GIGA Games            $18.50 
            La Coleccion          $18.50 
            Nova for NeXTs        $18.50 
            Project Gutenberg     $18.50 
            Source Code           $18.50 
            X11/GNU               $18.50 
            Info-Mac              $25.50 
            CUG Library           $23.50 
            Linux                 $23.50 
            Libris Britannia      $34.00 
            Space and Astronomy   $18.50 
            EMS 1-Disc SAMPLER    $12.00 ** 
                                  SubTotal:     $ 
                                  TX (MN Only)  $ 
                                  Shipping      $ 
                                  TOTAL:        $ 
 
Shipping: $4.50 for 1-3 discs, $6.50 for 4-10 discs, Call for 
           quantities larger than 10 discs. 
           ** No Shipping Charges on the EMS Sampler! 
          If you have an existing FedEX acct and want to charge to 
           it,  "No Problem!" 
          We Do COD, but only with FedEX, and by Cashiers Cheque 
           (it's expensive, but on large orders it might be worth 
           looking at). 
 
Sales Tax:     MN Only!!  6.5% 
 
We DO Accept Cheques (Personal & Business held for 5 days to clear; 
     Money Orders & Cashiers Cheques ship same day as in stock). 
 
Call With Any Questions, "We Are Here to Serve Your Needs!" 
 
Please Ship TO: 
  Name: 
  Street Address: 
  City:                      State:         Zip: 
  My Home Phone is:  (      ) My Work Phone is:  (      ) 
   (In case we have a question [or 2] regarding your order) 
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8461
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/09/93  6:03p
Subj: CRDOM Disc Prices12/09/9                Refer: NONE
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From: NINO FAGAN                             Number: 8462
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 12/08/93  4:14p
Subj: hobbes 10/93??                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Dave Reed wrote  
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
:>11473  12-05-9317:27NINO FAGAN  1473  12-05-9317:27NINO FAGAN
:>         1473                   ve.
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ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

Something must have gone wrong here Dave.  This is all I got.
Would you repeat please?

Regards, 
Nino
... 20 years experience or 1 year repeated?
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From: TOM TARLTON                            Number: 8463
  To: PAUL LAUGHLIN                            Date: 12/10/93  5:23p
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

how much?!!!!!!!!
--tom-----


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From: GREG GILETTO                           Number: 8464
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/10/93 10:37p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FOR SALE: 
Mitsumi CD-ROM drive (LU005 350ms 150kbs 32k Cache) with 
SB PRO 16 bit sound card:    $250.00 
 
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 8465
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 12/10/93  8:25a
Subj: Big Sky                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

.

Jim -

  JL> Big Sky Rom II - Top Drawer (Pre-Orders) $19.00
  JL> Soon to be released!  This disc has our highest
  JL> recommendation for a top notch BBS Ready CD-Rom.
  JL> You will not find a better shareware disc.....

Considering that this has not yet been released, and you are
giving it your highest recommendation, I can only assume that
either you are producing the disc yourself, or you have seen
the files listing for the disc.  In either case, I'd be very
interested in carrying this disc if it is as good or better
than other currently available shareware discs.

(1) Do you have a files listing available and, if so, would
    you please it to me (or tell me where to f'req it)?

(2) If you are producing this disc, would you please send me
    dealer pricing information and/or publicity materials
    when it becomes available?  Also, a store demo would be
    appreciated.


                                Thanks,

                                Arnie Gross
                                Country Fair Software
                                182 Pine Hill Road
                                New Fairfield, CT 06812-2208

                                (203) 746-1195 (M-F, 9-5)


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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 8466
  To: JEFF HUBERT                              Date: 12/10/93  9:34a
Subj: Re: Lower Prices                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jeff -

07 Dec 93, Jeff Hubert writes to All:

   JH> 7th Guest - $29, incl. video

   JH> All products have original manuals, disks, boxes,
   JH> etc.  and are in excellent condition.

   JH> Prices are negotiable.

Considering that this game is regularly sold (new) in this echo
for between $32 and $40, and used software generally goes for
half the new price, I'll offer $25 (inclding shipping), or $20
and you pay the shipping.

Reply in this echo, or voice (203) 746-1195 (M-F, 9-5).

                                                    - Arnie :+}

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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 8467
  To: GARY COLMAN                              Date: 12/10/93  7:42p
Subj: R rated, G rated, etc..                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 GC> Could someone please explain to me, the different USA methods
 GC> of categorising pictures, eg 'R' rated, 'G' rated, etc..

 GC>  * Origin: Chameleon BBS, Cape Town, South Africa (5:7102/129)

        Sure Gary be happy to.  The U.S. rating system is as follows:
                "G" Good - All age groups
                "PG-13" - Parental Guidance under 13 years of age
                "R" Racy - Topless only adults over 18
                "X" Xciting - Full nudity no touching
                "XX" Double xciting - Not much left to the imagination
                "XXX" Everything you ever wanted to see and than some!
        Hope that takes care of your questions.


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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 8468
  To: RICHARD JOHNSON                          Date: 12/10/93  8:06p
Subj: CD Speed                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RJ> Does anyone know of a program that will show the speed of a CD drive?
 RJ> All the ones I have are for HDs and won't do "network" drives. Thanks.

        Sure do, get a copy from Profit Press located in AZ.
        Their free demo desk has the program "CDBENCH", only works on
        the CD Disk which will test your CD Rom Drive and than you can
        compare results with others reported in the doc file.  Check PC
        Mag or Computer shopper for address and phone number as its not
        listed on my copy of the disk.

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From: KAREN SANDERS                          Number: 8469
  To: WATKINS                                  Date: 12/10/93  8:16a
Subj: Me                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Morning Joe,
My 'puter is still at the house.....grrr. Too much in one day...I'm getting
ready to go to school, just wanted to say hi,.....and HUGS!

KAREN

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 8470
  To: CHRISTOPHER SLOAN                        Date: 12/10/93  5:39p
Subj: CDROMs Wanted (games)                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I'm looking for some good CDROM games (no shareware). If you have any
 > for sale leave me a message.
 > Chris


What kind of games do you mean I have King's Quest VI for only $20.00 and $2.90
second day postal.

                                  Mike Harris

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From: MICHAEL MCCLINTOCK                     Number: 8471
  To: JEFF HUBERT                              Date: 12/10/93  9:28p
Subj: games and cd-roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  7th Guest                   | 2 CD-ROMs | $29  | Great
 > adventure,
 >                              |           |      | puzzle GAME
 > with
 >                              |           |      | "The making
 > of 7th Guest"
 >                              |           |      | video.


Hmmm kinda quoted wierd.  Ok Can you give me some more info on this. Is this a
DEADLOCK price or is it negotable? What kind of requirements does this need?
Thanks. Later.....

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From: JARED STEIN                            Number: 8472
  To: ALAN LE                                  Date: 12/10/93  6:34p
Subj: Re: SONY DUEL CDROM DRIVE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

dont know the exact ms but it is dual sony external cd with card cable and
software needed to work
very good
no box but never used..
hook it up but never got any cd's
so its brand
 new
call me 804-588-8324
it does have caddies



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From: AUDIE VICKERS                          Number: 8473
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/09/93 11:26p
Subj: Busty Babes II                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

  Busty Babes came in yesterday.  I haven't taken my eyes off my monitor
  yet!!!  Many thanks.

  To anyone else thinking of buying this CD, it's definitely worth the
  money!!

 * OLX 2.2 * Do the voices in my head bother you too?


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 8474
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 12/10/93 11:13a
Subj: Re: Women On Wheels                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Ed Duchek <12-08-93 04:56> Randy Neuner wrote:

RN>> Ed, what is this disc about and how much is it?

Hey Randy, let me say this disc is 1500 images of gorgeous professional women
on Harley Davidson's--The images are leather bikini's progressing to total
beaver shots--These images have appeared in EasyRider, Harley Davidson posters,
and calenders etc--This series of disc will have several volumns, which archive
this photographer from 1975 to cuurent--Some gorgeous vintage Harleys, with the
red smoke in the background. This disc is magazine quality, and is rated "X"
T&A only. All the bikes are Harleys. Every image has a Harley in it.

Majority of the ladies went on to be playmates and penthouse centerfolds.

Hope this helps ! Will be released in Jan '94--.

Happy Holidays !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 8475
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93 12:25a
Subj: CDROM Caddies...                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi everyone......

I am looking to buy 8 CDROM caddies for 8 Hitachi 3500 CDROM drives.

Prices anyone?

James
 þ OLX 3.10 31-0461 þ ... Isn't sado-necro-bestiality beating a dead horse?


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8476
  To: DENNIS HENDERSON                         Date: 12/11/93  1:19a
Subj: Re: Language CD's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>>We have it Bruce ! It's a six disk set with manual !!  This is one of the
  >>best language programs on cd.

>>    Would you happen to have a Russian language CD also?


Not that I'am aware of, but if I do run across one, I'll post a
message regarding the info.

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8477
  To: DAN GUILLORY                             Date: 12/11/93  2:01a
Subj: Re: SPECIAL                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Can you give me a price on the following

>>    Cream Of The Crop II
>>    Busty Babes II

Sure....$40. for both of the above plus S&H

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week
and we'll be happy to assist you !!

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8478
  To: DICK WALSH                               Date: 12/11/93  2:01a
Subj: Re: SHAREWARE STUDIO III                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>    Hey   I really like talking to Boris   He told me that when I
>>    placed the order that I was buying the right thing   I took
>>    three of what I was thinking about and was trying to get away
>>    from the purchase of more at this time   I will do business
>>    with him again.   I sure wish he had an 800 number but you
>>    have to do something to keep prices down.  Anyway I did get
>>    delivery on Dec 4th and I had to sign for it.   I sort of
>>    think that he did protect himself by having me sign for the
>>    order    I sure hope he gets the new catalogs to us sort of
>>    quick   I could use some more CD's (I just hate Best Buy here
>>    in Toledo)  <Dick>


Ahhhhh.....Dick.....we do have an 800 number!!

It's 800-243-0517 and anyone can call it from the US or Canada.

Our next step with be a 800 type service for Europe, but that wouldn't
help you unless your on vacation and have a strong urge to order some
cd's...grin !!

Thanks for the kind words and look forward to hearing from you in the near
future !

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8479
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93  2:01a
Subj: HOT CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            C R E A M     O F     T H E     C R O P    I I

OVER 654 MEGS New Shareware   4987 Files Dated '93'  Dup Checked
Virus Checked                 Files.BBS Support      Multi Line Discription
Mouse Support Menu            14Megs Prog Code       Plus MORE !!!
Only 200 prog Older Than April '93' - 10% Dup to NO10, Pier3, Software Gold

                               PRICE - $25.

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263   FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress....... Not Just Another Off-Line Mail System <tm>!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8480
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93  2:01a
Subj: SPECIAL                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~[  S P E C I A L  B U N D L E S  ]~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1. Software Vault Gold     2. Night Owl 10.         3. Shareware Online 2
   Software Vault Games       Night Owl Games          Gameware
   Software Vault Windows     Night Owl Graphics       Soundware
   Price - $49.00             Price - $65.00           Price - $49.00

4. Hobbes OS/2 'NOV'       5. Tech Arsenal          6. Pier 3
   Window Users Arch          TechnoTool               Cream Of The Crop II
   Price - $30.00             Price - $30.00           Price - $45.00

   ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUE 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Xpress Yourself!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8481
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93  2:01a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       A L L  N E W  C D  "S O  M U C H  M O D E M  M A D N E S S"

   7,200 Files             Over 600+ Megs                BBS Ready
   Rip Graphics - BBS Doors - BBS Programs - Modem Utils - Ham Radio
 Desqview - Ansi Graphics - Programming - OS/2 Communcation - Comm Prgs
 Networking Utils - Netmail Progs - Win Communcation - Transfer Protocol
 and a whole lot more......
                              Price - $25.00

 ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 8482
  To: JOHN LITTLE                              Date: 12/10/93  6:15a
Subj: Amateur Models for trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>How many megs are on this disk?  Are all the pictures R to X rated (no XXX)?

Don't know how many megs it is, but the pictures are like the ones of
'The Girl Next Door' type.  Both in SVGA and TIFF high resolution, about
10 or 12 diff directories.

Randy


 * OLX 2.1 TD * hAS ANYONE SEEN MY cAPSLOCK KEY?


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 8483
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/10/93  6:24a
Subj: Re: Blaine Richard                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>No need to apologize. I know I speak my mind :)--I hope you get your disc, a
LN>if you do not, I will be more then willing to send you a disc, and hopefully

Well once again, he promised to send a disc for the one I sent him.
Three times, once reg mail, once UPS 2 day, once 2 day FEDEX.  Nothing.
The disc I sent him was an adult disc and he was to send me an adult one
back.  It's been so long I forgot the name.  He said he would autograph
it for me as he was the producer (author?) of it.  Anyway, I am just out
the disc and have learned another lesson. I don't expect someone other
than him to correct the situation.  Thanks for the offer of a disc but
it's not your fault I got ripped.  TTYL, Randy

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From: DOUG HUMMEL                            Number: 8484
  To: LARRY HUEGELE                            Date: 12/10/93  6:42p
Subj: Cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I TRIED A AUDIO CD WITH A THAT PLAYS CD NO SOUND OUT THE HEADPHONE JACK... I
KNOW THE SOUND PART OF THIS DRIVE WILL NOT WORK WHEN IT IS SUPPOSED TO....
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From: CHUCK SILVA                            Number: 8485
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/02/93  3:41a
Subj: CD ROM Catalogs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Okay, all you CD ROM sellers out there!  I've got
the drive but I don't have the disks. Here's your
chance to sell. I am interested in BBS-ready
CD ROMS for my BBS.

Please send catalog to:

Chuck Silva
4211 Verde Vista
Georgetown, TX 78628

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From: ALLEN DIETZ                            Number: 8486
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/09/93  6:59a
Subj: Simtel-20 Utilities                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF> I don't think they did - but I may have missed it, since I NEVER use the
BF>things....

There is a search engine on the SIMTEL discs, just log onto the CD
and type GO. (The instructions are printed right on the disc.)  It's
primative, but will read the descriptions of files and unzip them to
a directory on your hard disk.

Allen


 * OLX 2.2 * Without waves there can be no change

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From: CHUCK SILVA                            Number: 8487
  To: CHRIS CONKLIN                            Date: 12/09/93  2:25a
Subj: CD ROM Catalogs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CC>    Your one stop catalog is on its way from C-3 Production
CC>Systems in San Angelo, Tx.....

Thank you, Chris. 
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From: RICHARD STROH                          Number: 8488
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/10/93  8:31p
Subj: Shareware Studio                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Gals and Guys, well CD Shareware Studio Vol III is up at The
Tropical Palace in North Carolina.  Over 5000 programs up to 640 Megs
of files....  All for your taking... Just thought I should throw that
in... he,he... Talk to you later..

910-497-4982

And its up in the CDROM conference....

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 8489
  To: GREG MILLS                               Date: 12/11/93 12:03p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GM> Looking for some used CD Roms for my IBM.  Anyone up here in Canada have
GM> something old you wanna sell?  Should have the original box and docs.


CD-ROMS for Sale

Q&A 4.0 from Symantec ..........................  $39
Tax-Prep 1993 ..................................  $15
CD-ROM Premier .................................  $14
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $15
Toolworks US Atlas and Automap .................  $22
Toolworks World Atlas ..........................  $22
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $59
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $ 9
PC Sig Library 9th edition .....................  $11
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $16
Sneek Peeks from Sierra ........................  $13
Corel Art Show 3 with large Book ...............  $24
Phoenix-CD Version 3.0 .........................  $12
Chessmaster 3000 ...............................  $24

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209

GM>... Does anyone know where the light switch is?

   I have a neat flashlight for sale );
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Registered Symantec Q&A Consultant


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 8490
  To: JERRY JOHNSON                            Date: 12/11/93 12:23p
Subj: Encyclopedia - trade                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JJ>I have The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia (for Windows) I would
JJ>like to trade.  Looking for educational discs like Arthur's Teacher trouble
JJ>Mixed up Mother Goose or JUst Grandma and Me.  I also would be willing to
JJ>listen to other trades you might have. Respond here.

    The following is my list, let me know if you see anything(s) that
you like.

CD-ROMS for Sale

Tax-Prep 1993 ..................................  $15
CD-ROM Premier .................................  $14
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $15
Toolworks US Atlas and Automap .................  $22
Toolworks World Atlas ..........................  $22
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $ 9
PC Sig Library 9th edition .....................  $11
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $16
Sneek Peeks from Sierra ........................  $13
Corel Art Show 3 with large Book ...............  $24
Phoenix-CD Version 3.0 .........................  $12
Chessmaster 3000 ...............................  $24

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Registered Symantec Q&A Consultant


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 8491
  To: KEVIN HOLMAN                             Date: 12/11/93 12:26p
Subj: CD encyclopedia                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KH>I have software toolworks encyclopedia
KH> for sale.  New and still in plastic with manual
KH>---$15.

   I will offer $13 including shipping.

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 8492
  To: ELDON WAKEFIELD                          Date: 12/11/93 12:27p
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EW>I have the following for sale asking 60.00 for all will pay shipping You can
EW>call 706-561-7856 or netmail me thanks Eldon
EW> Software Vault #1
EW> Simtel 20 [May 93]
EW> SDN 1 Plus
EW> Mega Rom 2
EW> Hobbs os/2 Nov 92
EW> Plus a Free one

    Will offer $29 including shipping for the lot

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 8493
  To: DAN HATTERICK                            Date: 12/10/93 11:13p
Subj: Cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > How about a price on 4 of those 3500 drives with one card.?
    Presuming you don't need  audio on any of them, the total  cost to you
would be $460.00, plus shipping which should be around $35.00
    Thanks for asking & we are looking forward to your order.
    Regards,
    Joe Rinehart
    voice: 216.296.9831

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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 8494
  To: MICHAEL COLLIER                          Date: 12/11/93  4:39a
Subj: Asian Ladies Warning!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Michael Collier said the following Andrew Studer :
-MC>    I really admire you for coming out and declaring your sexual -MC>
preference for all to see. That must take alot of guts. Alot more guts
-MC> than it takes to throw around ignorant insults.

But then again, "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve", was actually told
to me by a Catholic Priest... <G>  But, also, one should not judge.  So this
whole conversation should not have taken place and should not be taking place.
Moderator??? <G>

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 8495
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93  8:31a
Subj: 14.4 modem                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Forwarded from "ATL4SALE"
 * Originally by Michael Benge
 * Originally to all
 * Originally dated 11 Dec 1993, 8:30

Brand new, in the box, 14.4 modem from Infotel.  10 year warranty, rock solid
with fax, MNP and v.42/v.42.bis.  Includes software and phone cord.  Will
consider trading for a 386sx barebones, or prefer a CD-Rom drive.  Reply here,
1:133/2401 netmail, 404-991-6609 bbs, or 404-991-5780 voice.

MICHAEL BENGE


 * MKRead v1.04 * Sysoping: More fun than being beaten with a sledgehammer.

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 8496
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 12/08/93  4:18p
Subj: Women On Wheels                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Randy,

Answering a msg of <08 Dec 93>, from Randy Neuner to Ed Duchek:

If you are refering to "women on wheels" I have no idea!  Someone used that
title when they sent me a message, and we have let it stay ever since!


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: BOBBY POSEY                            Number: 8497
  To: DAN GUILLORY                             Date: 12/10/93  7:53a
Subj: SPECIAL                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Can you give me a price on the following

 > Cream Of The Crop II
 > Busty Babes II

You can Freq the Catalog from ME here at 1:388/20 as CCI.ZIP, CCI.ARJ or magic
name CCI 22 hours daily.

Bobby Posey

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From: NISSE HAAK                             Number: 8498
  To: MICHAEL HAIP                             Date: 12/10/93  4:05a
Subj: Re: XXX Rated CD Wanted                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Michael Haip to All <=-

 MH> Anyone out there want to tell me what the raunchiest cdrom out there
 MH> is  and where it can be picked up? Thanks....

 MH> P.S. Is anyone out there seeing my messages, I keep posting them but
 MH> never  get any replies.  Just trying to find out if there is a problem
 MH> with the  bbs.

  This one reached all the way to Sweden. Europe...:)
  Nisse Haak



... Busty Babes rides the Blue Wave...:)
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From: JEFF HUBERT                            Number: 8499
  To: DAVID HILL                               Date: 12/10/93  5:30p
Subj: Re: Games and cd-roms                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I sold those 2 cd-roms but I will keep you in mind if the deal doesn't 
go through.
thanks

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From: JEFF HUBERT                            Number: 8500
  To: PETE BOUDREAU                            Date: 12/10/93  5:30p
Subj: Re: Lower prices!!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I sold that game but I will keep you in mind if the deal doesn't go 
through.

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From: SCOTT TEED                             Number: 8501
  To: DAVID ALLINGHAM                          Date: 12/10/93  4:10p
Subj: Good Day                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Dave.  just dropping a note to say hi.  I got a great screen saver for OS/2
the other day.  It is called Window Washer v2.0.  It is quite good.  I am
expecting to get my copies of 123 for OS/2 and Freelance/2 soon.  Looking
forward to that.  Now all I need is a wordprocessor and I'm set.  What do you
think of Ami Pro/2.  That may be the way I go.

Anyway take care.



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From: JOHN STREET                            Number: 8502
  To: MICHAEL HAIP                             Date: 12/10/93 11:50p
Subj: Xxx rated cd wanted                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MH>P.S. Is anyone out there seeing my messages, I keep posting them but never

I saw it, but I don't have any CD's.  They're probably all afraid you're
heading up a sting operation.

Sincerely,

-=Gentleman John Street=-
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From: JOHN VAN HARE                          Number: 8503
  To: ART MARKO                                Date: 12/09/93 10:13p
Subj: Re: ADULT CDS SALE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Would you be interested in selling XXX Extreme?  I loaned my copy to a friend 
and figure if I can get another copy, I will just let him have it.  I can get 
it new for 20 bucks, so if you can part with it for a little less than that I 
would like it.
616-467-4197
netmail 1:2225/1

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8504
  To: WC HILL                                  Date: 12/09/93  7:01p
Subj: CD STORAGE BOXES WANT                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Many thanks for your reply. I'll check it out next time I get to town.

> * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 10+ gigs, 100,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2)

 I should have a batch of Jewel Cases at the Computer Show this Sunday in
Toledo - it runs from 10AM to 4 PM at the Holiday Inn 1 block south of Exit 4
from the Ohio Turnpike.


 * SLMR 2.1a * I'm caught in a perpetual Time Warp(tm)!

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From: CLINT MORTON                           Number: 8505
  To: TONY PSALTIS                             Date: 12/10/93  7:21p
Subj: Re: Cd Rom                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What is the price for the sony drive?

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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 8506
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/11/93  2:13p
Subj: Forbidden Subjects CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MS>Interesting.  I've had a few customers request it, but I've never looked at
MS>one.  What is it that makes it "macabre"?

Hi, Mike:

Well, for starters, it has GIFs showing such things as people (or what's
left of them) fatally injured by bomb blasts; executed by guillotine;
some having had radical surgery performed to various extremities of
their bodies; infants who have been crushed in car accidents; previously
unreleased (and for good reason) photos of murder victims; and so many
more "delightful" things to feed ones mind on.

Also, there are numerous sections relating on how to forge documents and
use stolen credit cards, how to assemble and find the "best places" to
detonate bombs so as to do the most harm, etc.

Lots more I didn't bother to read or look at.  Is there REALLY a market
for this trash???  I think I would classify this as macabre. What do you
think?  Maybe I've been leading a "sheltered" life way up here in the
Great White North... NOT!  With a family of five children of my own, I
really can't see the advantage of publicizing such things for
individuals -- young or old -- to gaze upon. The world is filled with
enough tragedy brought to us free-of-charge by the Evening News, let
alone paying to look at this stuff.

No, Mike, when any of my customers ask about buying certain titles
such as "Forbidden Subjects", I feel obligated to let them know what
they're purchasing.  I do not hesitate in loosing a sale to my
competitors.  But, hey, what do I know...

Best Regards,

Hayden Bradshaw
HRB Computer Services

BTW:  Our "sample" copy of F/S is probably nestled between some toxic
waste and rotting debris in some land-fill site somewhere in
Ontario...where is belongs!
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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 8507
  To: PAUL SCHIFFERLI                          Date: 12/11/93  2:31p
Subj: Censorship                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PS>myself.  I just do not like the Idea that someone can effect what is
PS>available to the public by using their position.  I appreciate that it
PS>is their playpen and they can make the rules ( as you do ).  But they
PS>accepted the adds during the beginning years of the magazine.  Why the
PS>change now.  Are they being more politically correct now ?.  My crack
PS>about the Female editor was out of line.  However, it seems that the
PS>females are at the forefront of efforts to eliminate so called
PS>Pornography.  It's the same old problem.  WHO DEFINES WHAT IS
PS>ACCEPTABLE ??  I do not give YOU that right.  I still make those
PS>decisions for myself.

True, I don't set the rules for you or anybody else, thankfully. What a
heavy burden that would be!! I do, however, set the rules for my
immediate family -- since I and my wife are responsible for their
actions. In fact, I wouldn't want to take responsibility for anyone
else's actions. That's why I have set the boundaries for my Company as
to what we purchase and sell to the public.

Undoubtedly, PC Mag feels a similar duty.  Whether it's "politically
correct" or not has no bearing on the matter, because as a business
owned by people answerable to the "powers that be", they have a right to
decide what they print, how they print it, and when they print it.  You
and I don't have to buy it if we don't want.  But, say, aren't you
dictating to people what they should and shouldn't buy by asking them to
basically boycott this publication because you feel "our" freedoms have
been stepped upon?

But then, what do I know...

Best regards. :-)
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From: JOHN VAN HARE                          Number: 8508
  To: MAURO INCROCCI                           Date: 12/11/93  1:50p
Subj: Re: CD ROM sought                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Try Boris for a copy of Pier 3, it has 50 directories, no subdirectories, and 
a files.bbs in each directory.  You can make a .bat file to import all the 
descriptions into all your file bases automagically if you are sharp enuff!
MI> I am new to this echo so forgive me if this topic has been covered already.
MI> am looking for a listing of BBS ready disks that have the files.bbs or file
MI> format listings.  I am a sysop and need to upgrade my SDN1+ and Super Carou
MI> ROM disks.  Any help (especially Canadian addresses and costs) would be
MI> greatly appreciated.
That's Boris Osidiciw, I think is how he spells his name.  He is quite 
reputable cdrom dealer.

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From: JOHN VAN HARE                          Number: 8509
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 12/11/93  1:53p
Subj: Re: Amateur Models for trade            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How much for the cd?
616-467-4197
RN> I  have the new Amateur Models for trade for another adult cd-rom title.
RN> Perfect condition, only viewed once.

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From: JARED STEIN                            Number: 8510
  To: ALAN LE                                  Date: 12/11/93 11:06a
Subj: Re: SONY DUEL CDROM DRIVE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WELL I DONT KNOW THE MS OR KB TRANSFER BUT IT IS DUAL EXTERNAL, WITH ALL 2
CADDIES, CABLE, CARD AND SOFTWARE
NEW, HOOKED UP BUT NEVER BOUGHT ANY CD'S
GIVE ME A CALL 804-588-8324

... This copy of GEdit has been unregistered for 40 days.
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8511
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/10/93  2:29p
Subj: CDROM Prices12/11/93                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>ComputerHelp is Happy to Announce We Are Currently< 
>Offering EMS Professional Software's CRDOM Discs!!!< 
 
If you are PC-based or Windows-based and Have Liked the 
Shareware & Utility CDROM Discs on the Market, We Believe 
You Will Really See Added Value in These Discs!!!  "WE DO!!!!" 
 
EMS Has Changed Their Format Recently and Made Their Discs 
Much More User Friendly.  We Don't Want To Take Too Much 
Space Here, But the EMS 2-Disc Set is $59.95 + shipping. 
 
If You Are Curious About the Discs, We Have a SPECIAL For YOU!!! 
We Have Sampler Single Disks (that are 1 rev -- or about 
2 months -- old).  They are the discs only, without the indexes, 
COMPLETELY FUNCTIONAL AND WITH ALL THE DATA!!! 
 
They include utilities and programs covering:  ASM, C, C++, 
AutoCAD, Xbase, DOS, Games, Hardware Demos, HomePC, Jokes, 
Multimedia, Netware, ObjectVision, Quick Basic, Paradox, 
Small Business, TrueType Fonts, TurboPascal, Visual Basic, 
Windows, and a PC Products Database. 
 
Personally, this disc has been a real resource for us in our 
computer room.  (Previously, it was just the way they handled 
their indexing that bothered us.)  They have changed that in the 
Current versions.  Remember, the Full-Fledged current versions 
are Currently $59.95 from EMS; Our Sale Price is $49.95. 
THESE VERY SPECIAL SINGLE DISC SAMPLERS ARE ON SALE FOR $12, 
INCLUDING SHIPPING! 
 
There are about 150 of these Sampler Single Discs currently available. 
 
As always, If You are Not Happy With Any Product from Us, We 
Will Take it Back within 30-days of date of purchase.  Your only 
expense would be freight/shipping. 
 
"WE WANT YOU HAPPY AND TO COME BACK THE NEXT TIME YOU ARE IN THE MARKET!" 
 
Thanks, 
Richard Carter 
___----------------------      ------------------      -------------------- 
 
 
            Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM Disc's 
 
          from:     ComputerHelp 
                    PO Box 385041 
                    Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
               Ph:  (612) 890-4750, (800) 514-7071 
                    Fax:  (612) 894-9411 
 
(as of 12/11/93) 
          SIMTEL MSDOS               $13.00 
          CICA MS Windows            $13.00 
          Hobbes OS/2                $13.00 
          Aminet Amiga               $13.00 
          Garbo MSDOS/Mac            $13.00 
          Sprite OS                  $13.00 
          QRZ! Ham Radio             $13.00 
          ADA Programming            $18.50 
          GIGA Games                 $18.50 
          La Coleccion               $18.50 
          Nova for NeXTs             $18.50 
          Project Gutenberg          $18.50 
          Source Code                $18.50

          X11/GNU                    $18.50 
          Info-Mac                   $25.50 
          CUG Library                $23.50 
          Linux                      $23.50 
          Libris Britannia           $34.00 
          Space and Astronomy        $18.50 
 
                  ***SPECIAL***SPECIAL***SPECIAL*** 
     =>>> Order 3 at once and take an Extra $1 Off of Each <<<= 
        (Limited Time Offer!!! Print and enclose this ad with 
                your order.  Good through 12/31/93!!!!) 


Shipping:      1-3 discs in one order = $4.50, 4-10 discs in one 
order = $6.50. 
          (MN residents add 6.5% sales tax).

 
          All prices subject to change without notice. 
          "Yes Mildred, we do take personal cheques!" 
 
All orders by pre-payment, (you want cheap prices....); send to 
address above.  Call with any questions.  (Sorry, we don't accept 
credit cards:  they add to the 
    price and we want to be able to offer you the CHEAPEST PRICES 
   AVAILABLE.  "Thank You for Your Support!!!    -  Richard Carter 
                             ORDER FORM 
 
YES!  Please accept my order for: 
 
  Quantity          Item:         Price Each:   Extension: 
     : 
            SIMTEL MSDOS          $13.00 
            CICA MS Windows       $13.00 
            Hobbes OS/2           $13.00 
            Aminet Amiga          $13.00 
            Garbo MSDOS/Mac       $13.00 
            Sprite OS             $13.00 
            QRZ! Ham Radio        $13.00 
            ADA Programming       $18.50 
            GIGA Games            $18.50 
            La Coleccion          $18.50 
            Nova for NeXTs        $18.50

            Project Gutenberg     $18.50 
            Source Code           $18.50 
            X11/GNU               $18.50 
            Info-Mac              $25.50 
            CUG Library           $23.50 
            Linux                 $23.50 
            Libris Britannia      $34.00 
            Space and Astronomy   $18.50 
            EMS 1-Disc SAMPLER    $12.00 ** 
                                  SubTotal:     $ 
                                  TX (MN Only)  $ 
                                  Shipping      $ 
                                  TOTAL:        $ 
 
Shipping: $4.50 for 1-3 discs, $6.50 for 4-10 discs, Call for 
           quantities larger than 10 discs. 
           ** No Shipping Charges on the EMS Sampler! 
          If you have an existing FedEX acct and want to charge to 
           it,  "No Problem!" 
          We Do COD, but only with FedEX, and by Cashiers Cheque 
           (it's expensive, but on large orders it might be worth 
           looking at). 
 
Sales Tax:     MN Only!!  6.5% 
 
We DO Accept Cheques (Personal & Business held for 5 days to clear; 
     Money Orders & Cashiers Cheques ship same day as in stock). 
 
Call With Any Questions, "We Are Here to Serve Your Needs!" 
 
Please Ship TO: 
  Name: 
  Street Address: 
  City:                      State:         Zip: 
  My Home Phone is:  (      ) My Work Phone is:  (      ) 


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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8512
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/10/93  2:29p
Subj: CDROM Prices12/11/93                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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   (In case we have a question [or 2] regarding your order) 
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From: LEO MULVIHILL                          Number: 8513
  To: WC HILL                                  Date: 12/10/93 12:01a
Subj: Cd'S For Sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry Bill,

Thanks for the offer but I use Word


Leo
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From: ANTHONY FURGISON                       Number: 8514
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/10/93  5:51p
Subj: CD's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Would like to know what other Cd's you have available for sale. I am only
interested in BBS ready ones. You can contact me via this net or netmail me at
my FidoNet # 1:272/111.

Thanks,
Tony Furgison

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 8515
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/11/93 10:37p
Subj: WING COMMANDER DELUXE / W               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Brice!

Wednesday December 08 1993, Brice Fleckenstein writes to Pat Rickerson:


 >> This Cd I think is called Wing Commander 2 Deluxe with Secret Missions.

 BF>  $54, shipping included IF prepaid.

 BF>  Brice's Library
 BF>  5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
 BF>  Indianapolis, IN 46220

 BF>  (317) 726-1980  (Tu Th 11AM - 8PM  We Fr 11AM - 6PM  EST)

Found it local for $18, but thanks for the reply
Pat

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From: MIKE GRIFFIN                           Number: 8516
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/11/93  7:45p
Subj: CD GUIDE FREE W/ $100+ PR               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hello Mike!

09 Dec 93 01:21, Mike Shannon wrote to Mike Griffin:

 MS> Sorry about that Mike.......I guess timing is everything in this ever-
 MS> changing game. 8)  Tell ya what, remind me on your next order, and I'll
 MS> throw one in for free, regardless of the order total.  Fair enough?

Thats why I do business with ya! More than fair!

Mike

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 8517
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93  9:30p
Subj: Amateur Models trade                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Amateur Models (sort of like the Girl Next Door) for trade for
another adult title. This disc is only 2 weeks old.

Randy


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From: ROBERT MOSS                            Number: 8518
  To: MICHAEL GUIDRY                           Date: 12/10/93  9:10p
Subj: Bible Cd's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG>PR>Hello All!
  >PR>
  >PR>Have a Minister here that is looking for any Cd's, do you have any
  >PR>be interested in? If you do please reply, thanks.
  >PR>
  >PR>Pat
  >PR>

MG>I've got The Bible Library containing 9 bibles and 20 reference works.
  >The bibles are:

MG>American Standard, King James, Living Bible, New International, New King
  >James, Revised Standard, Simple English Bible, New Testament
  >Transliteration.
        Michael,
                If he's not interested, I would be. Please let me know.

                        Thanks,
                        Robert

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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8519
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93  4:10p
Subj: CD/Sound card/Speakers                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>                       ```
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> Charlie Jarman             (910)654-4658 <voice> (910)654-5593 <data>


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Also included:
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        Price: $350.00 (total package and FREE speakers)
                                                        Charlie


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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8520
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93  4:13p
Subj: CD-ROM/ CD Discs                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

         WISHING YOU AND YOURS A HAPPY HOLIDAY SEASON!

    LEAP ENTERPRISES is becoming a major source for your computer
 needs. We make no bones about not always being the lowest priced
 because we know that price alone does NOT make a GOOD deal.
    We sell top quality merchandise at good prices and we offer
 support after the sale. Thanks for considering us when making
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    CDR-74-1 (E) Dbl. spin SCSI..............$399.00
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       Below 200ms/256k buffer; PhotoCD

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       Below 200ms/256k buffer; PhotoCD

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       Below 200ms/Blazing fast!

Hitachi-
    CDR-3700 (I) AT..........................$399.00
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    CDR-3750 (I) SCSI........................$429.00
       300ms; MPC1

    CDR-6700 (I) Dbl. spin Hitachi bus or AT.$435.00
       260ms access/300k Xfer/128k buffer;
       PhotoCD

    CDR-6750 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI..............$439.00
       260ms access/300k Xfer/128k buffer;
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       238ms access/307k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD; MPC2

    CDR-4000E Tower System with 4 CDR-6700...$2699.00 Tower system!

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    CDU-31-03 (I) Dbl. spin *Includes AT I/F.$165.00 *LOW PRICE*
       550ms access; Not the fastest, but
       this is a solid drive.

    CDU-535 (I) Sony bus.....................$275.00
       340ms access; XA compliant w/opt. kit

    CDU-561 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI...............$349.00
       265ms access/330k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD; OS/2

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       380ms access; MPC

    CDU-7205/N (E) Sony bus..................$445.00
       340ms access; XA compliant w/opt. kit

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       MPC

    CDD521 600MB RECORDER w/o software.......$4299.00 CD-RECORDER!
       Dbl. spin; Multiformats

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    CR-522 (I) * Includes AT I/F.............$199.00 *LOW PRICE*
       380ms access/150k Xfer;64k buffer;
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       340ms access/300k Xfer/64k buffer;
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       240ms access/335k Xfer/64k buffer;
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       265ms access/365k Xfer/64k buffer;
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       200ms access/330k Xfer/256k buffer;
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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 8521
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 12/11/93 11:14a
Subj: Censorship                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CB>What a crock of dung! Must be one of those feminists who think a picture
CB>naked woman degrades the whole female sex. Oh well, it's her advertising
CB>dollars she will be losing...not to mention the subscriptions when those
CB>who dislike this type of "political correctness"


You've got it backwards Chris. The politically correct crowd are the
liberals who approve of this stuff.  You know, the pro gay, pro lesbo gang.
The gang who says "if it feels good, do it." The gang who says that people
should be able to do anything they want with no responsibility of their
actions. The gang who os presently fighting for a UCLA Berkley student's
right to walk around butt naked on campus because it's his "freedom of
expression." THAT is politcal correctness.

BTW, censorship occurs only when some form of expression is prohibited by
law, NOT when a privately owned publication chooses not to advertise an
item. That is THEIR right. They are not mandated by anyone to advertise
everything that is thrown at them.

National Geographic magazine (and many others) will not publish cigarette
ads. Is that censorship? Of course not.

Now, back to the topic. What was it again?? <g>.

Ron in Tampa
73163.124@compuserve.com



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From: JOSE VISBAL                            Number: 8522
  To: LEO MULVIHILL                            Date: 12/09/93 11:35p
Subj: Re: CD's for Sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Leo Mulvihill to All <=-

 LM> I have the following CD's for sale

 LM> Microsoft Works.for Windows...

 LM> Microsoft Bookshelf for Windows 1992 edition

 LM> Compton's Multimedia Encyclopedia
                  
 LM> Make offer

Can you tell me whats the lowest you go on your Comptons and
bookshelf CD's....


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From: JOSE VISBAL                            Number: 8523
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 12/09/93 11:42p
Subj: CD-ROM REPAIR                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JR> We have several Hitachi model 3500 drives that are in the process of
 JR> being refurbished.
 JR> We also have facilities to repair model 3500 drives

 Hi Can you tell me how much you sell these CD-ROM drives for...
When they are repaired...?



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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 8524
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/11/93  5:52a
Subj: Re: Women On Wheels                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>Hope this helps ! Will be released in Jan '94--.

LN>Happy Holidays !
HH to you too.  Well now here's a good one.  Do you sell discs or are
you a vendor?  I don't really know.  Anyway, if you are, better save one
for me, I love a hot motorcycle, hehe.   What's it gonna sell for?

Randy

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 8525
  To: ALL DEALERS                              Date: 12/11/93  7:48a
Subj: WANTED!!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm ready to purchase a copy of the "Interactive Adult Almanac" from New
Machine Publishing. Free Spirit has this CD advertised for $59. If anyone
wants to beat this price by more than a trivial amount and can deliver the CD
within 10 days ARO, let me know ASAP as I plan to order from Free Spirit NLT
12/17. Thanks!

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From: JERRY JOHNSON                          Number: 8526
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 12/09/93  9:21p
Subj: Trade                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Kevin,
Consider it a done deal.  I will contact you tommorrow by phone and will
priority mail you Animated Fantasies Vol 2.  If you like you can contact me at
work 214-658-2247.
                Will get in touch 12-10-93
                Jerry


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From: DANNY BRIGANCE                         Number: 8527
  To: JERRY ZELLER                             Date: 12/10/93 11:17a
Subj: Bible CD's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Jerry!

Friday December 10 1993, Jerry Zeller writes to Danny Brigance:

 JZ> Danny - just leave your mailing address and I'll send you a check.  Jerry

Ok here goes.  Send me $10.00 for the CD and probably $1.00 for shipping for a
total of $11.00 to:

Danny Brigance
5724 Wedgworth Road
Fort Worth, TX  76133

Be sure and send my the address where to ship it to you at.  Talk at you
later....

Danny

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8528
  To: BRYAN COTTER                             Date: 12/07/93  8:20p
Subj: JPEG CD's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will sell you Amatuer models cd with the 24 bit tiff on it for $30 shipped or
trade for another adult cd.
 
Please reply.
Thanks
Scott raley

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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 8529
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/07/93  3:36a
Subj: CD Drive 4/sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BSR "DAK" Sony external CD drive. This drive is a single speed drive, It is
in excellent condition. Sent it 3 months ago to Sony to have the heads
cleaned! It is a sony drive has cables, install disks, controller card,
manuals.. It has some nice features, like Audio outputs, earphone port,
emergency eject. This can be used in a daisy change with other sony drives.
uses caddies. Its MPC 1. It runs encyclopedias, story games, gif
disks fine. Believe it has a 150 access time and 380 transfer rate. Any
questions regarding it you can call me or net mail me..
I quarantee the drive to be in perfect condition!

170 dollars...  ken 793 9152

Also looking for CD's in trade..
1994 Cinemania
Musical Instruments
Dream Machine
Just Grandma and Me

Happy Holidays To All...

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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 8530
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/07/93  3:37a
Subj: College Girls                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

College Girls Movie disk for sale.
35 dollars + shipping or trade for
ken 412 793 9152


94 Cinemania
Musical Instrments
Dream Machine
Just Garnd Ma and Me

Happy Holidays To All...

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From: LAWRENCE MINTZ                         Number: 8531
  To: GARY COLMAN                              Date: 12/11/93  8:56a
Subj: R rated, G rated, etc..                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Could someone please explain to me, the different USA
 > methods
 > of categorising pictures, eg 'R' rated, 'G' rated,
 > etc..

I'll take a stab at it.

G - General Audiences - suitable for children.

PG and PG-13 - Parential Guidance - not recommended for children under the age
of 13.  Usually means that there is some rough language or too much violence
for small children.

R - Restricted - children under 17 not permitted without an accompanying adult.
 More rough language or violence or partial nudity or any combination thereof.

NC-17 - No children under 17 - children under 17 not permitted under any
circumstances.  Adult themes but still respectable movies made by big budget
movie production studios.  If "Last Tango in Paris" was released today, it
would probably qualify here.

X - Adult - No children under 17 permitted (obsolete designation taken over by
the pornographic film industry.)  New productions wearing this flag or
derivatives such as XXX are the adult movie trade featuring a lot of bedroom
scenes for 60 to 75 minutes.

Larry

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8532
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93  1:07a
Subj: SHAREWARE CD 4-PAK: $49                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            __________________________________     _____________
           |                                  |   |             |
           | Title:  SHAREWARE EXPLORER 4-PAK |   | Price:  $49 |
           |__________________________________|   |_____________|

     This great 4-volume shareware CD set is brought to you by the same
     folks who did the 5-Star Premium series, and is every bit as well-
     organized and up-to-date as the 5-Star CD's were.  Are you tired of
     the old, poorly organized shareware CD sets?  You won't be
     disappointed with Shareware Explorer - we guarantee it!

     * Over 26,000 total files (1992/1993)
     * Less than 1% duplication between CD's.
     * 3 volumes are DOS, and 1 is Windows shareware (7000 files)
     * BBS-ready with PC-Board and FILES.BBS file listings.
     * EZ-Access menu program.

                    >> IN STOCK FOR IMMEDIATE DELIVERY! <<

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 8533
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93  7:49p
Subj: Cream of the Crop 2                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


                          Cream of the Crop II

                                  $29

                            distributed by:

                              Terry Blount
                             (205-824-2552)

*                               654 megs

*                4469   files   compressed   with   Pkzip

*            Files dated from April 1st through October 18th.

*               Only 200 programs are older than April 93.

*    No files  older  than  Jan  93   EVEN   inside   the   archives!

*   518 additional zip programs were include in various  archives  in
    order to simplify file listing - making a total of 4987 programs.

*   If you are a programmer, especially Pascal, you  will  definitely
    want  this  disc.   (14 megs of pascal source code - 330 files!)

*   BBS ready with Files.bbs in every directory and additional setup
    utilities for 6 popular BBS programs.

* Extended (multi-line) descriptions are included for most files listed.

* The view and retrieval program (Cream.exe) has many new features including:
  1. No setup is required.
  2. Runs directly on the cd and loads listings into memory - making most
     of the options lighting fast.
  3. Mouse support.
  4. Multi-line file-description display.
  5. Selected files can be copied or uncompressed directly to
     the target directory.  When these actions are completed you
     will be returned to your previous position in the listing.
  6. File description keyword search.
  7. File name search option in every category AND on the entire list.
  8. When browsing/searching the entire listing as much of the
     description will be displayed as the memory available on
     the system will allow.  This file search feature is instant.
  9. Help and general information available.
 10. Many internal improvements to optimize the code and verify your
     input is correct and make suggestions to correct any problems.

* Files  were  cataloged  under  the   following   27   categories:

     BATCH             C_LANG            KEYBOARD          SCIENCE
     BBS               DATABASE          LAN               SCREEN
     BUSINESS          DIAG              OS2               SOUND
     CAD               DISK              PASCAL            UTILITY
     CLIPPER           EDITOR            PRINTER           VIRUS
     COMM              EDUCATE           PROGRAM           WINDOWS
     COMPRESS          GAMES             RELIGION


*                        BBS   Support   Programs

 If you run a Maximus, Proboard, Remote Access, Quick  BBS,  PcBoard,  or
 Spitfire BBS programs are included to automatically and instantly set up
 this disk for your bbs file database structure in  only a  few  minutes.
 ALL of these programs will AUTOMATICALLY copy (and correctly format) the
 Files.bbs from this cd to suit the structure of your bbs  and  increment
 the file names, placing the "Files.<x>" ( or File<XX>.bbs in some cases)
 into the directory you specify.  RBBS is now also supported.

*   The following groups of files  were  NOT  included  on  this  disc
    in order that the space available on a cd could be best optimized:

 Commercial programs that are not released under the  shareware  concept,
 files that were older than April 93, sexually explicit (adult)  programs
 and text, newsletters  (except  for a  few  that  contained  programming
 code), magazines, pictures (gifs, fli, animation, fracturals,  graphics,
 clipart, fonts, images, cartoons, ext), music (Cmf, Mid, Mod, Mus,  Rol,
 Voc, Wav, etc.), bbs door games, windows games, windows icons, Macintosh
 &  Unix  operating  system   support   programs,  demos, and  ham radio.


 Orders are now being accepted in one of the following ways:

 1. Call 205-824-2552 and tell me how many copies to send you.

 2. Netmail (crash only --- I am getting feed via Satellite and routed
    netmail may not work)  your address and c.o.d order.

 3. Drop me a letter in the mail:    Terry Blount, P.O. Box 36, Bayou La
    Batre, Al. 36509          ....with your order.

 4. Save the $5 c.o.d. fee and send $30 to the address above.

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From: AL AGEE                                Number: 8534
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/10/93 10:55p
Subj: Cd-rom recording                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   - Is your hard drive full?
   - Tired of waiting on that slow tape drive?
   - Lost under a mountain of floppies?

                   Make your own CD-ROM! Put 600+ Megabytes of your proprietary
data on a ISO 9660 standard CD for $125.  Additional copies are only $99 each.

Send 600 MB of PC data on DC-2120 QIC-40 or QIC-80 tapes (Used by Colorado
Memory Systems tape drives).  I will transfer your data to an ISO standard CD
and have it on its way back to you, usually within two days.

Perfect for a BBS SYSOP who is out of hard drive space. Distribute the
company's archived data to all offices. Programmers: Save high setup cost of CD
Mastering houses.

- Safe. A virus can't attack files on a CD. - Secure. Once the data is on the
CD, it can't be changed. - Inexpensive. CD backup costs as little as tape.
Floppies
  cost more than the CD drive and tape drive combined! - Convenient.  No more
swapping tapes and searching through
  floppies.
- Compatible. Works under Windows or DOS. Share it on a LAN. - Fast.  Newer
triple speed drives read at up to
  450K/sec...three times the speed of a floppy.  Eight times
  the speed of a tape.

Ship up to 600mb on QIC-40 or QIC-80 tapes and cashier's check or money order
for $125 ($99 for second copy) to:
                Allen Agee
                52 Sleepy Hollow Road
                Andover, New Jersey  07821-5000
                (201)786-7716

Personal checks must clear the bank before the order is shipped.

I keep your costs low by avoiding legal fees. Please sign the following
disclaimer:

     I, the customer assume full responsibility
     for my data.  It contains no illegal or
     dangerous files. If my data contains files
     copyrighted by others, I hold and will
     maintain the appropriate licenses. I certify
     no laws are being broken by placing this data
     on CD-ROM.

                 ------------------------
                        (signature)
===
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From: JIM LARSON                             Number: 8535
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93 12:18p
Subj: CD for trade                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I've got the adult CD ALL BEAUTIES I would like to trade for another adult CD.
This CD has 680 MB, 3991 files of Swimsuit and Adult pictures plus animations--
GL, DL, & FLI.
* SPITFIRE v3.3
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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 8536
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 12/11/93 10:23a
Subj: Cd bb for trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GS>I have BB 3 vol.1 I would like to trade for another adult CD,
RN>preferably T &

RN>I have the new Amateur Models I will trade for BB.  What da ya
RN>think?

RN>Randy


RN> * OLX 2.1 TD * All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here.



Randy,
It sounds good to me.  I'll mail you BB.  Please give me your address.  You can
mail Amateur Models to Greg Sterling, 3111 Hann Hill Rd., Hermitage, PA 16159. 
Thanks for the trade.
Greg

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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 8537
  To: SEAN WARD                                Date: 12/09/93  2:15p
Subj: Computer Hardware                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JS> SW> * Origin: The Twisted Platypus, Arlington, Va, 703-892-9010 (1:109/626)

Eh? Is the "Dead Dog" storyline still running? Is SK still there?
Still on Columbia Pike? Did they add a CD-ROM to the system? What kind?

 * SLMR 2.1a * Whew...worked the topic back in there!


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From: DOUGLAS BELL                           Number: 8538
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/10/93  4:40p
Subj: Orchid MM Kit $400                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
Douglas Bell - 303-467-1294
 
Orchid SoundWave 32 & Orchid CDS-3110 Dual Speed CD-ROM .. $400
- Comes with: Speakers, Mini Clip Microphone, Software
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From: DAVID REMER                            Number: 8539
  To: CHARLIE JARMAN                           Date: 12/11/93  9:27a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CJ>Hitachi-
CJ>    CDR-3700 (I) AT..........................$399.00
CJ>       300ms; MPC1
CJ>

Is this compatible with the controller card and cables for
the CDR 1700S drives for daisy chaining?




CJ>Sony-
CJ>    CDU-31-03 (I) Dbl. spin *Includes AT I/F.$165.00 *LOW PRICE*
CJ>       550ms access; Not the fastest, but
CJ>       this is a solid drive.
CJ>

Is this compatible for daisychaining to the CDU 531 series?

CJ>    CDU-535 (I) Sony bus.....................$275.00
CJ>       340ms access; XA compliant w/opt. kit
CJ>

Same question as above?

CJ>Toshiba 3401B (I) Dbl. spin SCSI.............$379.00
CJ>       200ms access/330k Xfer/256k buffer;
CJ>       PhotoCD
CJ>

How much for the External model of this drive with cable for
Adaptec 1542B, SCSI to Centronics I believe?

On the other drives above, could you please quote and answer
for External models. Not interested in internal. Thanks.

David.

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From: FRANK SERENO                           Number: 8540
  To: JERRY JOHNSON                            Date: 12/11/93 10:00p
Subj: Re: Encyclopedia - trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Jerry Johnson to All <=-

 JJ> I have The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia (for Windows) I
 JJ> would like to trade.  Looking for educational discs like Arthur's
 JJ> Teacher trouble or Mixed up Mother Goose or JUst Grandma and Me.  I
 JJ> also would be willing to listen to other trades you might have.

I don't know if Wal-Mart has the same prices all across the country, but the
stores in northeastern Illinois are clearing out Mixed Up Mother Goose on
CD-rom for only $10.  If you have a store in your area, check it out.  I
know the store in my town has already sold out.

I have all 3 of discs that you mentioned but I'm not trading them at this 
time.  I will say that all of these discs are excellent for young children,
especially Just Grandma and Me.  Arthur's Teacher Trouble is better for 7
years or older so they can play the spelling game.  But it is okay for
younger children too as they can still click on everything in sight and watch
the funny animations.

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 8541
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/12/93  7:59p
Subj: Re: Women On Wheels                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <10 Dec 93  11:13:00>, Lee Noga (1:3618/23) writes:

 >This series of disc will have 
 >several volumns, which archive this photographer from 1975 to 
 >cuurent--Some gorgeous vintage Harleys, with the red smoke in the 
 >background. This disc is magazine quality, and is rated "X" T&A only. All 
 >the bikes are Harleys. Every image has a Harley in it.
 Sounds like you are going to convert a bunch of us into wildeyed bikers to  
me.
 >Hope this helps ! Will be released in Jan '94--.
I have never been so anxious for January to get here. 

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 8542
  To: ELDON WAKEFIELD                          Date: 12/12/93 11:18a
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Eldon!

Tuesday December 07 1993, Eldon Wakefield writes to All:

 EW> I have the following for sale asking 60.00 for all will pay shipping You
 EW> can call 706-561-7856 or netmail me thanks Eldon Software Vault #1 Simtel
 EW> 20 [May 93] SDN 1 Plus Mega Rom 2 Hobbs os/2 Nov 92 Plus a Free one -+-

Will offer $40
take care
Pat

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From: MICHAEL COLLIER                        Number: 8543
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/11/93  1:28p
Subj: Censorship                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF>>at the attitude of a number of agencies, not only magazine, but other
BF>>just religious, there's a great movement opposed to the porn stuff.
BF> 
BF> Censorship is NO MORE than a different form of slavery - and is EQUAL
BF>in that a censor would attempt to enslave your MIND, not just your bod
BF> 
BF> 
BF> * SLMR 2.1a * Catastrophe (n): Award to the Cat with the nicest buns.


    Your being a little simplistic aren't you. There has always been forms 
of censorship, some more onerous than others. You can't have groups 
interacting socially without some kinds of agreed upon limits. That's 
censorship. I think we would all agree that pictures of people being 
tortured or pictures of kids being raped would be questionable material 
for say a 5th grade History Primer, even though one couldn't argue that 
such events happened frequently in the past (and present). The debate 
isn't over whether or not there should be censorship but over the degree 
of censorship. . .
   Censorship occurs because groups within the society demand certain 
limitations on social discourse for various reasons. Now, certain women 
(and men) may be objecting to having suggestive pictures of women in a 
computer mag. If the pictures were of bestiality or child abuse then, I 
believe, that a larger segment of society would be objecting to those 
pictures. That's how a society works; different groups have to live 
together and they set limits on social discourse in order to create a 
harmonious society. Those limits, censorship, are all around us. We 
couldn't have a functioning society without them.

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From: ANTON SHEVCHENKO                       Number: 8544
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93  9:36p
Subj: wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hello
if you have any cd's for sale, drop me a note.
thanks
                                  Anton
(adult ones also)


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From: DAVID RYDER                            Number: 8545
  To: CHRIS CONKLIN                            Date: 12/12/93  5:42a
Subj: CD'S Wanted                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Message entered on Dec 5,93 by CHRIS CONKLIN to DAVID RYDER
***********************************************************************
CC> Hi David

CC>     Sorry, however the only Nightowl I have left in stock is #5 (one
CC> copy left).  Two of my distributors have dropped the Nightowl series
CC> and are not going to carry it again.  (They got burned on this).  Make
CC> me an offer on the last disc I have left and it's yours!

    Ok.  I will be in touch with you about this one.

CC>     I will be carring more Shareware disc after the first of the year
CC> with the 94 data.

    Will you be listing that here in the echo?

CC> I do carry several older versions of various share programs.  Many of
CC> those in the catatlog are still available.  I get requests from time
CC> to time for some of the older disc's so do carry these in limited
CC> quantities.  The furthest I have back however, it around the 90's
CC> and 91's.

    Ok, I'll have another look there.

CC>    Let me know what you would like to do.  If you want to bundle
CC> another deal, I'll be happy to chat with you about it!

    Ok, thanks.


***David.
 Entered Dec 12,93 from Mississauga, Ontario.    rn.1063@rose.com
   
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From: JOHN LITTLE                            Number: 8546
  To: BRIAN ELFERT                             Date: 12/11/93 12:53p
Subj: CD-ROM drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Chinon CDS-435 drives in external cases
 > SCSI interface
 > 150kb/s transfer rate
 > 350 ms access time
 > Meets MPC I specifications
 > 64k buffer memory
 > Includes caddy
Would you want to trade 4 of these drives for a DigiBOARD EISA C/X 64 port
serial board (with a 16 port connector - the card supports 4 such connector
boxes)?  Drivers for DOS/WinNT/OS2 2.1/UNIX/Novell - sells for about $1500
retail (list is $2200).

John Little

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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8547
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93 10:39a
Subj: CRDOM Disc Prices12/12/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>ComputerHelp is Happy to Announce We Are Currently< 
>Offering EMS Professional Software's CRDOM Discs!!!< 
 
If you are PC-based or Windows-based and Have Liked the 
Shareware & Utility CDROM Discs on the Market, We Believe 
You Will Really See Added Value in These Discs!!!  "WE DO!!!!" 
 
EMS Has Changed Their Format Recently and Made Their Discs 
Much More User Friendly.  We Don't Want To Take Too Much 
Space Here, But the EMS 2-Disc Set is $59.95 + shipping. 
 
If You Are Curious About the Discs, We Have a SPECIAL For YOU!!! 
We Have Sampler Single Disks (that are 1 rev -- or about 
2 months -- old).  They are the discs only, without the indexes, 
COMPLETELY FUNCTIONAL AND WITH ALL THE DATA!!! 
 
They include utilities and programs covering:  ASM, C, C++, 
AutoCAD, Xbase, DOS, Games, Hardware Demos, HomePC, Jokes, 
Multimedia, Netware, ObjectVision, Quick Basic, Paradox, 
Small Business, TrueType Fonts, TurboPascal, Visual Basic, 
Windows, and a PC Products Database. 
 
Personally, this disc has been a real resource for us in our 
computer room.  (Previously, it was just the way they handled 
their indexing that bothered us.)  They have changed that in the 
Current versions.  Remember, the Full-Fledged current versions 
are Currently $59.95 from EMS; Our Sale Price is $49.95. 
THESE VERY SPECIAL SINGLE DISC SAMPLERS ARE ON SALE FOR $12, 
INCLUDING SHIPPING! 
 
There are about 150 of these Sampler Single Discs currently available. 
 
As always, If You are Not Happy With Any Product from Us, We 
Will Take it Back within 30-days of date of purchase.  Your only 
expense would be freight/shipping. 
 
"WE WANT YOU HAPPY AND TO COME BACK THE NEXT TIME YOU ARE IN THE MARKET!" 
 
Thanks, 
Richard Carter 
___----------------------      ------------------      -------------------- 
 
 
            Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM Disc's 
 
          from:     ComputerHelp 
                    PO Box 385041 
                    Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
               Ph:  (612) 890-4750, (800) 514-7071 
                    Fax:  (612) 894-9411 
 
(as of 12/12/93) 
          SIMTEL MSDOS               $13.00 
          CICA MS Windows            $13.00 
          Hobbes OS/2                $13.00 
          Aminet Amiga               $13.00 
          Garbo MSDOS/Mac            $13.00 
          Sprite OS                  $13.00 
          QRZ! Ham Radio             $13.00 
          ADA Programming            $18.50 
          GIGA Games                 $18.50 
          La Coleccion               $18.50 
          Nova for NeXTs             $18.50 
          Project Gutenberg          $18.50 
          Source Code                $18.50

          X11/GNU                    $18.50 
          Info-Mac                   $25.50 
          CUG Library                $23.50 
          Linux                      $23.50 
          Libris Britannia           $34.00 
          Space and Astronomy        $18.50 
 
                  ***SPECIAL***SPECIAL***SPECIAL*** 
     =>>> Order 3 at once and take an Extra $1 Off of Each <<<= 
        (Limited Time Offer!!! Print and enclose this ad with 
                your order.  Good through 12/31/93!!!!) 


Shipping:      1-3 discs in one order = $4.50, 4-10 discs in one 
order = $6.50. 
          (MN residents add 6.5% sales tax).

 
          All prices subject to change without notice. 
          "Yes Mildred, we do take personal cheques!" 
 
All orders by pre-payment, (you want cheap prices....); send to 
address above.  Call with any questions.  (Sorry, we don't accept 
credit cards:  they add to the 
    price and we want to be able to offer you the CHEAPEST PRICES 
   AVAILABLE.  "Thank You for Your Support!!!    -  Richard Carter 
                             ORDER FORM 
 
YES!  Please accept my order for: 
 
  Quantity          Item:         Price Each:   Extension: 
     : 
            SIMTEL MSDOS          $13.00 
            CICA MS Windows       $13.00 
            Hobbes OS/2           $13.00 
            Aminet Amiga          $13.00 
            Garbo MSDOS/Mac       $13.00 
            Sprite OS             $13.00 
            QRZ! Ham Radio        $13.00 
            ADA Programming       $18.50 
            GIGA Games            $18.50 
            La Coleccion          $18.50 
            Nova for NeXTs        $18.50

            Project Gutenberg     $18.50 
            Source Code           $18.50 
            X11/GNU               $18.50 
            Info-Mac              $25.50 
            CUG Library           $23.50 
            Linux                 $23.50 
            Libris Britannia      $34.00 
            Space and Astronomy   $18.50 
            EMS 1-Disc SAMPLER    $12.00 ** 
                                  SubTotal:     $ 
                                  TX (MN Only)  $ 
                                  Shipping      $ 
                                  TOTAL:        $ 
 
Shipping: $4.50 for 1-3 discs, $6.50 for 4-10 discs, Call for 
           quantities larger than 10 discs. 
           ** No Shipping Charges on the EMS Sampler! 
          If you have an existing FedEX acct and want to charge to 
           it,  "No Problem!" 
          We Do COD, but only with FedEX, and by Cashiers Cheque 
           (it's expensive, but on large orders it might be worth 
           looking at). 
 
Sales Tax:     MN Only!!  6.5% 
 
We DO Accept Cheques (Personal & Business held for 5 days to clear; 
     Money Orders & Cashiers Cheques ship same day as in stock). 
 
Call With Any Questions, "We Are Here to Serve Your Needs!" 
 
Please Ship TO: 
  Name: 
  Street Address: 
  City:                      State:         Zip: 
  My Home Phone is:  (      ) My Work Phone is:  (      ) 


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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8548
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93 10:39a
Subj: CRDOM Disc Prices12/12/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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   (In case we have a question [or 2] regarding your order) 
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8549
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/12/93 11:17a
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices11/23/9                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 On 12-09-93 Mike Shannon wrote to Richard Carter... 
 
 MS> To each his own I guess...... 
 
I would say so:  Like performing a turn-around of failing 
sales organization from, say, a best effort failing of 
$258,000 monthly sales (with a break-even of $603,000 per 
month) to a turn-around of $1,500,000+ monthly sales 
(at improved GPM), in 90 days. 
Followed by turn-around of sales org of major computer 
mfgr, followed by turn-around of Reseller, followed 
by structuring of telemarketing arm of software company. 
(Want to try puffing somemore?  I have much more......) 
 
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8550
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/12/93 11:29a
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices12/13/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
            Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM Disc's 
 
          from:     ComputerHelp 
                    PO Box 385041 
                    Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
               Ph:  (612) 890-4750, (800) 514-7071 
                    Fax:  (612) 894-9411 
 
(as of 12/13/93) 
          SIMTEL MSDOS               $13.00 
          CICA MS Windows            $13.00

          Hobbes OS/2                $13.00 
          Aminet Amiga               $13.00 
          Garbo MSDOS/Mac            $13.00 
          Sprite OS                  $13.00 
          QRZ! Ham Radio             $13.00 
          ADA Programming            $18.50 
          GIGA Games                 $18.50 
          La Coleccion               $18.50 
          Nova for NeXTs             $18.50 
          Project Gutenberg          $18.50 
          Source Code                $18.50 
          X11/GNU                    $18.50 
          Info-Mac                   $25.50 
          CUG Library                $23.50 
          Linux                      $23.50 
          Libris Britannia           $34.00 
          Space and Astronomy        $18.50 
 
                  ***SPECIAL***SPECIAL***SPECIAL*** 
     =>>> Order 3 at once and take an Extra $1 Off of Each <<<= 
        (Limited Time Offer!!! Print and enclose this ad with 
                your order.  Good through 12/31/93!!!!) 
 
Shipping:      1-3 discs in one order = $4.50, 4-10 discs in one 
order = $6.50. 
          (MN residents add 6.5% sales tax). 
 
          All prices subject to change without notice. 
          "Yes Mildred, we do take personal cheques!" 
 
All orders by pre-payment, (you want cheap prices....); send to 
address above.  Call with any questions.  (Sorry, we don't accept 
credit cards:  they add to the 
    price and we want to be able to offer you the CHEAPEST PRICES 
   AVAILABLE.  "Thank You for Your Support!!!    -  Richard Carter 
                             ORDER FORM 
 
YES!  Please accept my order for: 
 
  Quantity          Item:         Price Each:   Extension: 
     : 
            SIMTEL MSDOS          $13.00 
            CICA MS Windows       $13.00 
            Hobbes OS/2           $13.00 
            Aminet Amiga          $13.00 
            Garbo MSDOS/Mac       $13.00 
            Sprite OS             $13.00 
            QRZ! Ham Radio        $13.00 
            ADA Programming       $18.50 
            GIGA Games            $18.50 
            La Coleccion          $18.50 
            Nova for NeXTs        $18.50 
            Project Gutenberg     $18.50 
            Source Code           $18.50 
            X11/GNU               $18.50 
            Info-Mac              $25.50 
            CUG Library           $23.50 
            Linux                 $23.50 
            Libris Britannia      $34.00 
            Space and Astronomy   $18.50 
            EMS 1-Disc SAMPLER    $12.00 ** 
                                  SubTotal:     $ 
                                  TX (MN Only)  $ 
                                  Shipping      $ 
                                  TOTAL:        $ 
 
Shipping: $4.50 for 1-3 discs, $6.50 for 4-10 discs, Call for 
           quantities larger than 10 discs. 
           ** No Shipping Charges on the EMS Sampler! 
          If you have an existing FedEX acct and want to charge to 
           it,  "No Problem!" 
          We Do COD, but only with FedEX, and by Cashiers Cheque 
           (it's expensive, but on large orders it might be worth 
           looking at). 
 
Sales Tax:     MN Only!!  6.5%

 
We DO Accept Cheques (Personal & Business held for 5 days to clear; 
     Money Orders & Cashiers Cheques ship same day as in stock). 
 
Call With Any Questions, "We Are Here to Serve Your Needs!" 
 
Please Ship TO: 
  Name: 
  Street Address: 
  City:                      State:         Zip: 
  My Home Phone is:  (      ) My Work Phone is:  (      ) 
   (In case we have a question [or 2] regarding your order) 
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From: PATRICK SHEN                           Number: 8551
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93  5:43p
Subj: Cd-rom for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have following CD-ROMs for sale.  All CD-ROMs are in New Condition. Please
add $3 for UPS or Priority Mail shipping.

7th Guest by Virgin Games (2 CD set).  Smooth full motion video.  Best CD ever
made.                                    --------------  $40.00

Software Toolworks CD Game Pack II.  10 games on one CD.  Each has its own
documents.                             --------------------  $22.00

LucasArts Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe.  Very good World War II Air Combat
Simulation game.  I'll include a mission/utilities disk as a free bonus.       
                              -------------------  $20.00

Mixed-Up Mother Goose MPC by Sierra.  Winner of 1990 SPA Award for Best Early
Education Program.  Features lively 3-D animation and a friendly, easy-to-use
point-and-click interface. Kids learn logic and problem-solving skills while
having fun.                     ------------------  $20.00

Defender of the Crown - A tale of jousting heroes and damsels in distess by
Cinemaware.  A Robin Hood game.  Requires a Hitachi CD-ROM drive with audio
output.                                ------------------  $17.00

Deathstar Arcade Battles.  The most exciting arcade action and other games of
all time.                           ------------------  $15.00

SelectWare System.  The Ultimate Software Demo System.   ------   $9.00

If you are interested, please reply here to contact me at E-mail address below.

Patrick Shen
CompuServe: 72072,3612
Internet: pshen@simenv.com

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From: MARTIN YEE                             Number: 8552
  To: STEVE KRAISLER                           Date: 12/11/93  8:41p
Subj: Busty babes ii                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SK>>MY>   Interested in a trade for any of the following: The Animals! MPC
SK>>MY> CDROM Macmillan Dictionary for Children MPC CDROM

SK>I have Macmillan Dictory for Children (etc) waiting for a trade.  What
SK>are you offering??
Hi Steve,
   I was replying to someone else, stating I have Macmillan Dictionary
   for trade.
   Question, I have the OEM version (bundled with hardware), I was
   wondering whats the difference in the full version?
   Do you have any other titles for trade?

Martin Yee

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From: JEFF RUNNELS                           Number: 8553
  To: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                         Date: 12/12/93 12:26a
Subj: Re: CD's for Sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you have an ordering address?  If yes, do you also have a list of the CD
Roms you have for sale?

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From: TOM PAPAS                              Number: 8554
  To: BRYANT PARK                              Date: 12/11/93  3:26p
Subj: King's Quest VI - $25                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'l take it.  Tell me where to send the moneyorder.  Thanks!

Tom

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 8555
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/11/93  6:38p
Subj: CENSORSHIP                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Brice!

Wednesday December 08 1993 12:26, Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Hayden Bradshaw:

 BF>  Censorship is NO MORE than a different form of slavery - and is EQUALLY
 BF> evil, in that a censor would attempt to enslave your MIND, not just your
 BF> body.

Oh... brother... here we go...



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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 8556
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/11/93  6:39p
Subj: CENSORSHIP                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Brice!

Wednesday December 08 1993 12:31, Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Ronald Leon:

 BF>  In the PC Mag case, governmental PRESSURE appears to have been applied,
 BF> and therefore it DEFINITELY qualifies as censorship - even by YOUR limited
 BF> definition.

What is the basis for this statement?  I don't think you have a basis, other
than "personal opinion."  There is NO appearance that ANY pressure from ANY
group was applied.  PC Magazine made a decision, which they are free to do.  I
feel they implemented a policy that's fair to both sides.  All they did was
remove the pictures.  XXX can still be advertised, just without the enticing
pictures.  Any reputable magazine would not want such pictures in their pages.
Especially when they're trying to reach such a wide audience.

Later,

Dave

... Rush may be funny, but these liberals are a riot!

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From: JOSE VISBAL                            Number: 8557
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93 10:45p
Subj: CD-rom INFO HELP!!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi,To all can you or any one tell me what is the Different
between These CD-ROMS Drives.....

Panasonic     CR-521,  CR-523,  CR-563
Which Drive is better.....??

Sony      CDU31A-02


Mitsumi   CRMC LU005S
          CRMC FX001
          CRMC FX001D

Can some tell me which one of these Drives is the best for your
money...??
I am planning to pick one up here in a week or so.......


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From: MICHAEL GUIDRY                         Number: 8558
  To: ROBERT MOSS                              Date: 12/12/93 10:49a
Subj: Bible Cd's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 10 Dec 93, Robert Moss stated to Michael Guidry:

RM>MG>PR>Hello All!
RM>  >PR>
RM>  >PR>Have a Minister here that is looking for any Cd's, do you hav
RM>  >PR>be interested in? If you do please reply, thanks.
RM>  >PR>
RM>  >PR>Pat
RM>  >PR>
RM>
RM>MG>I've got The Bible Library containing 9 bibles and 20 reference
RM>  >The bibles are:
RM>
RM>MG>American Standard, King James, Living Bible, New International,
RM>King
RM>  >James, Revised Standard, Simple English Bible, New Testament
RM>  >Transliteration.
RM>        Michael,
RM>                If he's not interested, I would be. Please let me k
RM>

Robert,

I already promised it to Danny Brigance.  If, for some reason, the deal
falls thru, will let you know.

Sorry,
Mike

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From: MICHAEL MURPHY                         Number: 8559
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93  4:48p
Subj: Software & CD's 4 sale!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following software for sale:

Police Quest I (VGA version, 3 1/2) ..................... $25
Red Baron (SVGA only version - 3 1/2)
          (VGA and lower - 5 1/4) ....................... $30
Gold Rush! (BOTH - VGA or lower) ........................ $20
Quest for Glory III (SVGA version, 3 1/2) ............... $35
The New PrintShop (5 1/4) ............................... $20
The New PrintShop Companion (BOTH) ...................... $20
MCS Stereo - for Windows (3 1/2) ........................ $30
Norton AntiVirus v.2.0 (3 1/2 - no box) ................. $30
Learn CAD Now (Book that includes 5 1/4 disks) .......... $20
Night Owl's 10 Shareware CD ............................. $30
Encyclopedia of Sound CD vol. 1 ......................... $15

All contain boxes, original disks, and ALL docs, unless otherwise specified.
If you would like further infomation on any of the above, leave me a message
stating what you would like to know more about.  I will give you a complete,
detailed description of it.  Both of the CD's have original cases and are in
mint condition (no scratches, etc.).
I will consider trades or other reasonable offers.  
If interested, leave me a message at the address below or call (817) 540-6489
(4pm - 10pm CST).
Thanks,
Michael





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From: TROY JOHNSON                           Number: 8560
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 12/12/93  6:44a
Subj: Amateur Models trade                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN>I have Amateur Models (sort of like the Girl Next Door) for trade for
  >another adult title. This disc is only 2 weeks old.

I have a whole bunch give me a call and we can decide which one you
want

Voice 702 459 8862
Troy
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From: TROY JOHNSON                           Number: 8561
  To: JIM LARSON                               Date: 12/12/93  6:46a
Subj: CD for trade                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>I've got the adult CD ALL BEAUTIES I would like to trade for another adult C
  >This CD has 680 MB, 3991 files of Swimsuit and Adult pictures plus
  >animations-- GL, DL, & FLI.

I have a few I would like to trade, give me a call voice to decide which
one you want

702 459 8862
Troy
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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 8562
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/12/93  1:07p
Subj: CD Titles For Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have one each of the following CD titles available. Price is firm: 
 
$10.00  Golden Immortal         $10.00  Encyclopedia of Sound Vol. 1 
$10.00  Super CD I              $10.00  Magnum One 
$15.00  Black Box Vol. 6        $15.00  It's a Wonderful Life (full movie) 
$15.00  Fontmaster CD Vol. 2    $15.00  San Diego Zoo The Animals (DOS) 
$15.00  Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing Version 2.0 
$15.00  Do It On Your Desktop   $15.00  RoMaterial 
$15.00  RoMaterial Again        $15.00  Sing Along Christmas Karoke

$15.00  Tempra Access Photo CD Imaging Software 
$15.00  Jurassic (and other) Dinasaurs 100 Photo CD pictures 
$20.00  Gameware Collection      
$20.00  Quicktoons Classic Cartoons (MAC & PC compatible) 
 
Shipping $2.00 1st item, $1.00 2nd item, $.50 each item after the second. 
U.S. only. NO C.O.D.. Money order gets 1 day turn around. A check gets a 
week hold. All orders responded to by letter with status of order, refund, 
etc.. 
 
Send orders to: 
 
Paul F. Swider             Phone: (Between 5 PM and 8 PM PST) 
509 Digger St.                           702-877-4907 
Las Vegas, Nv. 
89107 
 
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From: KEVIN HOLMAN                           Number: 8563
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 12/12/93  2:06p
Subj: CD encyclopedia                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GE> KH>I have software toolworks encyclopedia
GE> KH> for sale.  New and still in plastic with manual
GE> KH>---$15.
GE>    I will offer $13 including shipping.

Gene, It sold for the asking price.
  Thanks,

Kevin Holman


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From: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN                     Number: 8564
  To: RICHARD JOHNSON                          Date: 12/12/93  1:22a
Subj: Re: CD Speed                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Reply to msg originally in CD Rom For Sale

 -=> Quoting Richard Johnson to All <=-

 RJ> Does anyone know of a program that will show the speed of a CD drive?
 RJ> All the ones I have are for HDs and won't do "network" drives. Thanks.
 RJ>

 Richard, there is a program on CD ROM that will do what you want. It is
 named "MPC Wizard". This is produced by Aris Entertainment. The latest
 version is 2.0. Retail cost is about $14.95.


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From: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN                     Number: 8565
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/12/93  1:28a
Subj: Re: CD STORAGE BOXES WANT               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Reply to msg originally in CD Rom For Sale

 -=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to William T. mcclain <=-

 >I found them in a music store that sells music CD's and also
 >at Radio Shack. The price at both places was the same. About $1.50 per box.

 BF> That is a VERY high price - as is to be expected of Radio Shack.

Perhaps the person who asked the question only needed a very few like
one or two (like I did). In this case the price is not all that bad. Of
course by answering this you _did_ get to put in your pitch.




... Mac in Tampa, FL
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From: DAVID HOBBS                            Number: 8566
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/12/93 12:17a
Subj: Mac CD-Rom                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone have a good deal on a cd-rom drive for a macintosh.
Double or Triple speed only and with an access time of >300ms.
Thanks, David
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From: JOHN THOMPSON                          Number: 8567
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/10/93 11:07a
Subj: CDROM DISC PRICES11/24/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF>   There is no such release - the new Simtel upgrade is dated 10/93. 

Close enough for me :-)

I was just trying to distinguish it from the earlier (8/93?) release...

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8568
  To: FRANK SERENO                             Date: 12/12/93 12:25a
Subj: 10% Discount                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FS> MS> it.  Actually, a 10% discount on an item necessitates a sales increase
FS> MS> of
FS> MS> 43% to maintain the same amount of profit. (using a 50% markup as a
FS> MS> base)

FS>I will agree with the statement that if you cut a price 10% that you must
FS>increase sales more than 10%, but I would like to see the reasoning behind
FS>the 43% and 150% numbers.  I'll post this scenario and you tell me if my
FS>figuring is correct.  It's been years since I really applied mathematics.

OK.  Let's say your cost on a CD-ROM is $10.  Add a 50% markup and sell
it for $15.  Your profit = $5.  Now deduct 10% off the selling price.
$15 - 10% = $13.50.  Profit is now $3.50.  You are now making $35 on every
ten you sell, instead of the $50 you were making before.  To get back to
your $50 profit level, you must now sell 43% more CD-ROMs than before.

Examples:

  Prior to 10% discount:    10 CD-ROMs sold @ $15 = $50 profit.
  After 10% discount:       10 CD-ROMs sold @ $13.50 = $35 profit.
  After 43% sales increase: 14.3 CD-ROMs sold @ $13.50 = $50.05 profit.

As you can see, by increasing sales 43% (i.e. selling 14.3 CD's, compared
to 10 before) we are able to recoup the profit that was lost due to the 10%
discount.  Here is the same example with a 20% discount:

  Prior to 20% discount:     10 CD-ROMs sold @ $15 = $50 profit.
  After 20% discount:        10 CD-ROMs sold @ $12 = $20 profit.
  After 150% sales increase: 25 CD-ROMs sold @ $12 = $50 profit.

FS>You sell 10 items at $10 with a 50% markup for a profit of $50 ($5 each)
FS>You sell 12.5 items at $9 representing a 10% discount, profit $50 ($4 ea

The reason your figures are different is because your definition of
"markup" is not quite correct.  In your example above, you are actually
using a 100% markup, not 50% as I use in my examples.  To sell an item at
$10, while making $5 profit on each one, as you indicate above, means a
"markup" of 100% on each item.  In other words, you are buying it for $5,
marking it up another $5 (100%), and doubling your money.  What you are
referring to is a 50% PROFIT MARGIN, not a 50% markup.  To sell an item at
$10 with a 50% "markup", equates to a dealer cost of $6.67 on each item,
not $5.

FS>If my calculations are correct to this point, then sales must increase 25%
FS>to maintain the same profit for a 10% discount

Again, this assumption is correct, figuring a 100% markup, not the 50% I
used in my example.

Take care,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8569
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/12/93 12:26a
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR MACINTOSH                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 December 1993          MACINTOSH CD-ROM PRICE LIST      Last update: 12/11
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 American Girls (New!).........34.00    Mac Shareware.................19.00
 Audubon's Birds...............23.00    Majestic Places...............38.50
 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    Monarch Notes.................48.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........25.00    Peter and the Wolf............25.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 DTPro.........................26.50    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......48.00    Sleeping Beauty (New!)........25.00
 Family Doctor.................26.00    Space Time and Art (New!).....34.50
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.00    Total Baseball 1992...........24.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Total Baseball 1993 (New!)....28.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Interactive Story Time 3......29.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00
 Jets & Props..................28.50    World Fact Book M/M...........23.00
 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...29.00    World View....................24.00

    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8570
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/12/93 12:26a
Subj: ADULT CD TITLES                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 December 1993        SOFTCORE ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST   Last update: 12/08
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
 Amateur Models................34.00    Girls of Mardi Gras (New!)....43.00
 American Girls (New!).........34.00    High Volume Nudes.............36.50
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......29.00    L.A. Strippers (Movie)........49.00
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......48.00    Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00
 Digital Dreams 1..............28.00    Photo Gallery.................34.00
 Digital Dreams 2 (New!).......29.00    Southern Beauties.............33.00
 Digital Dreams 2-Pak..........54.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

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From: TERRY HAMILTON                         Number: 8571
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/10/93  6:32p
Subj: Q on Britannical CD                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone out there know if there is a CD ROM with the
Encyclopedia Britannica?
        I know about one with Collier's, I believe, but would like
a better one, such as Enc. Brit.


... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: GUY OMER                               Number: 8572
  To: DAVID HOBBS                              Date: 12/12/93  1:22p
Subj: YOU MORON!!!!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please be kind. Some folks just 'trust' while others 'cuse'. I bet that error
will not happen, often, again. Enjoy...guy
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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 8573
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/11/93 11:17p
Subj: WING COMMANDER DELUXE /                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>This Cd I think is called Wing Commander 2 Deluxe with Secret Missions.


Origin recently lowered the price on this cd by 50%. It can now be bought
new for about $35.

Ron in Tampa
73163.124@compuserve.com



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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 8574
  To: AUDIE VICKERS                            Date: 12/12/93  8:47p
Subj: Busty Babes II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AV>  Busty Babes came in yesterday.  I haven't taken my eyes off my monitor
AV>  yet!!!  Many thanks.

AV>  To anyone else thinking of buying this CD, it's definitely worth the
AV>  money!!

It's not R rated is it? Would you rate it R, X or XXX?

Ron in Tampa
73163.124@compuserve.com



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From: RANDY COGHILL                          Number: 8575
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/12/93 11:14a
Subj: Canadian pricing                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

I was wondering if anyone has canadian pricing on a CD-Rom kit?  In particular
the Drive should be a Double Spin (MPC2 compliant) CD-Rom drive, the Pro Audio
Spectrum or the Pro Audio Studio sound card and please state the type of
software that is included.

Randy

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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 8576
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/12/93  9:40p
Subj: CD-ROM drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


                    ////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
                    \\          MEG*A*BITE         //
                    \\           presents          //
                    //         CD-ROM MANIA        \\
                    //      DECEMBER 12, 1993      \\
                    \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/////////////////

                       Current price list effective
          Don't purchase a drive before calling and checking out
                   our GREAT selection on NEW and USED
                             CD-ROM Drives!!

                        This months special are:
       Philips CM-215/10, SCSI-2, 360/150, MS Photo, with SCSI Card
                                $230.00 ea
       Philips CM-206/10, AT BUS, 325/300, MS Photo, D.Speed w/card
                                $253.00 ea

         >>>>DEALER PRICING IS AVAILABLE TO ALL RESELLERS TOO!<<<<

   *********************************************************************
   * Toshiba 3101B (N)............$219.00  INT,SCSI,BARE,300MS,BUYOUTS
   * Toshiba 3401B (N)............$389.00  INT,SCSI,BARE,200MS,D-SPD
   * Panasonic CR-562B (FN).......$259.00  INT,AT BUS,D-SPD COMPLETE!
   * Sony CD-31A (FN).............$199.00  INT,AT BUS,I/O COMPLETE!
   * Sony CD-31A/03 (FN)..........$269.00  INT,AT BUS,D-SPD MPC 2
   * Hitachi CDR-101 (FN) (NEW)...$199.00  INT,AT BUS,I/O COMPLETE!
   * TEAC CD-50 (FN)..............$399.00  INT,SCSI,D-SPD,MPC 2,BARE!
NEW* Philips CM-215/10 (FN).......$230.00  INT,SCSI,PLUG AND PLAY!
NEW* Philips CM-206A (FN).........$253.00  INT,AT BUS,D-SPD,COMPLETE!
   * Philips CD-215/01 (FN).......$190.00  INT,SCSI,BARE DRIVE
   * NEC Model-36 (U).............$125.00  EXT,SCSI,NO SCSI CARD
   * PIONEER DRM-604X(FN)........$1289.00  PWR/AUD CORDS,MAGAZINE,DRVR
WOW* PIONEER DRM-600A(FD).........$799.00  PWR/AUD CORDS,FULL WARRANTY
   * TRANTOR T-130 SCSI CARD.......$74.00  25PIN EXTERNAL CONNECTIONS!
   * FUTURE DOMAIN 8BIT SCSI.......$52.00  25PIN EXTERNAL CONNECTIONS!
   *********************************************************************
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         SEVERAL PIONEER UNITS IN STOCK NOW. PLACE YOU ORDER TODAY
         TO AVOID THE DISAPPOINTMENT MANY PEOPLE ARE HAVING DUE TO
         THE UNIT BEING DISCONTINUED BY PIONEER!

(N)New, Factory Warr (U)Used, 30 day warr. (FN) Factory New, Full fact.
              (FD)Factory Demos, ASK ABOUT THE WARRANTY!!
         These units are GREAT BUYS, don't delay, call today!!!!!!!

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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 8577
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/10/93 11:54p
Subj: Specials for X-MAS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*********************************************************
*                 Double Speed CD-ROM                   *
*              Specials from MEG*A*BITE                 *
*                  December 10, 1993                    *
*     Texel DM-3028 - Internal, 240msec, 335 Kbsec      *
*      transfer rate, 64K buffer, MS Photo CD !!        *
*                   and its SCSI 2 !                    *
*                      $ 335.00                         *
*   Philips CM-206/10 - Internal, 325msec, 300 Kbsec    *
*    transfer rate, 64K buffer, MS Photo CD too!        *
*                   AT BUS complete!                    *
*                      $ 253.00                         *
*                                                       *
*                Voice (517) 892-5518                   *
*                FAX   (517) 892-5965                   *
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From: BILL BARRETT                           Number: 8578
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 12/12/93  8:36p
Subj: CD Drive 4/sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KM>170 dollars...  ken 793 9152
   Ken
     I'll take the drive, please ship it to cod or call me
     and we'll talk about it. I'll pay S&H
     Bill Barrett
     609-768-8043 Office
         768-5689 BBS
     404 S. White Horse Pike
     Berlin, NJ   08009

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From: BILL BARRETT                           Number: 8579
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/12/93  8:39p
Subj: looking for Sony 535's                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In the market for 1 or 2 Sony 535's, will pay up to $175.00 for them
plus S&H
  Bill Barrett
  609-768-5689 BBS
      768-8043 Office
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From: WESLEY CHEW                            Number: 8580
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93  3:15a
Subj: CD CALCULUS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD Calculus published by John Wiley & Sons
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

Hi, I'm looking for a used/new copy of CD Calculus CDROM 
(Calculus with Analytic Geometry 4th Edition by Howard Anton)
which is published by John Wiley & Sons. If you have a copy of
it for sale, I can be contacted at voice : (405) 359-1259
or Internet ID: wesley.chew@oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu

Wes

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From: ADAM BRIAND                            Number: 8581
  To: DAVID SEBRING                            Date: 12/09/93 11:14p
Subj: RTZ CD Shipped                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DS | Adam , recieved your check & will send out RTZ a.s.a.p.    
   |  
   | David Sebring   

Ok, I appreciate it.  Let me know if you have any other cd titles to sell
in the future.

___
 X JABBER v1.1 X If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving isn't for you

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 8582
  To: JEFF TAYLOR                              Date: 12/13/93 12:44a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Joe,
>    I would be interested in a few of those drives if the price is
> right.
>    I have 2 now and would like to have 4. Please get back to me with
>    what you have and what you need to part with a few.
> 
> Thanks
> Jeff
>   Jeff,
    We now have too many of the Hitachi model 3500 in our inventory, as 
I've found another source & bought them out;-)  We also added another 
model to our refurbished list, being the NEC model 36.
    The Hitachi model 3500's are being shipped out this week.  I presume 
you want these for BBS usage, since you mention having two now.  We are 
selling drives without guarantee of working audio for $99.98 each.  If 
you want and audio working drive, then the price is $125.00  We also 
ahve all of the accessories in inventory except the external cables, 
which are being made and parts purchased(we ran out) and should be 
available for shipping in about a week.
    Thanks for asking & if I may be of further assistance, just ask.
    Joe Rinehart
    v. 216.296.9831
    1:157/479

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 8583
  To: DAN HATTERICK                            Date: 12/13/93 12:50a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> How about a price on 4 of those 3500 drives with one card.?
>    -Dan
>   Dan,
    We are selling Hitachi model 3500 drives for $125.00 each with 
working audio.  If you want them for bbs usage and do not care about the 
audio then the price is $99.98 for each drive.  The controllers are 
$60.00, & external cables are being made and will be available in about 
a week costing $30.00.  shipping is $25.00 for one drive, $40 forr 4.
    Thanks for asking
    Joe Rinehart
    1:157/479

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 8584
  To: JOSE VISBAL                              Date: 12/13/93  1:07p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom repair                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>  JR> We have several Hitachi model 3500 drives that are in the process
> of  JR> being refurbished.
>  JR> We also have facilities to repair model 3500 drives
> 
>  Hi Can you tell me how much you sell these CD-ROM drives for...
> When they are repaired...?
    Jose,
    We are now shipping them out.  I've sold over 43 refurbished model 
3500 drives this past weekend for $99.98 without working audio. $125.00 
with audio.  The controller is $60.00 and will handle up to 4 of these 
drives.  We also have all accessories except the external cables which 
we are making and ordering more parts for.  External cable kits 
available also.
    We also have NEC model 36 SCSI drives for $125.00 each, controller 
will handle up to 8 drives and cost $65.00.
    Shipping is $25 for 1 or 2 drives, $40.00 for up to 4
    Thanks for asking,
    Joe Rinehart

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 8585
  To: JOSE VISBAL                              Date: 12/13/93 10:18p
Subj: CD-ROM REPAIR                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  JR> We have several Hitachi model 3500 drives that are in the process of
 >  JR> being refurbished.
 >  JR> We also have facilities to repair model 3500 drives
 >  Hi Can you tell me how much you sell these CD-ROM drives for...
 > When they are repaired...?
    We are shipping them out NOW!  Sold over 50 in the past three days, so get
'em while they are hot & still around.
    I'll sell them without audio for $99.95, with audio $120. per drive.  $10
shipping per drive in the US.  Controllers $60.00 (will ahndle up to 4 drives),
internal cables $10.00.  External cables are backordered presently, as we are
making them as fast as we can, but they sell for $30 presently.



Sincerely,
Joe Rinehart

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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 8586
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93  3:50p
Subj: CD Drive/Disk List                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you are in the market for CD-ROM drives or disks, please
FREQ our current list as follows:

CD-ROM Drives     CD4SALE.ZIP or MAGIC name of DRIVES
CD-ROM Disks      CD_LIST.ZIP or MAGIC name of DISKS

These files can be FREQ from:

MEG*A*BITE "Your CD-ROM drive headquarters"
1159 Orchard Rd.
Essexville, MI  48732-1912
Voice  (517)892-5518
Fido   1:239/675


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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 8587
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 12/13/93  8:59p
Subj: WING COMMANDER DELUXE /                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Ronald!

Saturday December 11 1993, Ronald Leon writes to Pat Rickerson:


 >> This Cd I think is called Wing Commander 2 Deluxe with Secret Missions.


 RL> Origin recently lowered the price on this cd by 50%. It can now be bought
 RL> new for about $35.

 RL> Ron in Tampa
 RL> 73163.124@compuserve.com

Thanks will pass it on.
Pat

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From: BOB HANSEN                             Number: 8588
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93  1:56p
Subj: Berlitz Spanish Wanted                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in purchasing the Berlitz Spanish course CD version.
Would like a price quote.

Bob

... When a cow laughs, does milk come out its nose?
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From: CARLOS AVELLANET                       Number: 8589
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/12/93  2:28p
Subj: Re: NIGHT OWL 10 VIRUS REPORT           Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

 MS> I've been hearing a lot of talk by various people recently,
 MS> concerning the Night Owl 10 virus situation, and it seems like a
 MS> recurring theme has been that Night Owl's wasn't responsible for the
 MS> viruses being on Night Owl 10, because the version of SCAN they were

     Do you know if they are recalling or exchanging the infected disks?

CArlos.

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From: CHRIS STANFORD                         Number: 8590
  To: STEVE KRAISLER                           Date: 12/12/93  8:22a
Subj: 7TH GUEST                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>->I've finished 7th Guest and am willing to part with it for $30 bucks    
>->plus shipping.  It comes with two manuels and for 3 bucks more I'll     
>->throw in a disk with the solve and hints.                               
I know that this reply is kinda off topic...BUT. I work at Radio Shack 
here in Gadsden and we have that game for sale. I have not seen the ACTUAL 
game but I have watched and played around in the demo that we have at our 
store on T7G. To anyone who has a CD-ROM drive, I especially recommend 
this program!!

CLS
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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 8591
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 12/12/93  6:38a
Subj: Cd bb for trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GS>It sounds good to me.  I'll mail you BB.  Please give me your address.  You
GS>mail Amateur Models to Greg Sterling, 3111 Hann Hill Rd., Hermitage, PA 1615

I will send the disc out on Monday to the above address.  Last time I
did this though the other person never send me their disc.  I got
ripped, but I will try again.  My address is:

Randy Neuner
196 Hughes St
Ft Huachuca, AZ 85613

v- 602-459-3480
d- my bbs is on tag line below

Let me know when you get this msg and BTW your zip code was cut off the
end of msg. Is it 16159?

Thanks, Randy


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8592
  To: ANTHONY FURGISON                         Date: 12/13/93  2:26a
Subj: Re: CD's for sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 10 Dec 93 05:51pm, Anthony Furgison said the following:

>>    Would like to know what other Cd's you have available for 
>>    sale. I am only interested in BBS ready ones.

>>    Thanks,
>>    Tony Furgison


You should have a catalog in front of you by the time you read this
message.

Hope this helps...



Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8593
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93  2:26a
Subj: HOT CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            C R E A M     O F     T H E     C R O P    I I

OVER 654 MEGS New Shareware   4987 Files Dated '93'  Dup Checked
Virus Checked                 Files.BBS Support      Multi Line Discription
Mouse Support Menu            14Megs Prog Code       Plus MORE !!!
Only 200 prog Older Than April '93' - 10% Dup to NO10, Pier3, Software Gold

                               PRICE - $25.

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263   FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8594
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93  2:26a
Subj: SPECIAL                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~[  S P E C I A L  B U N D L E S  ]~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1. Software Vault Gold     2. Night Owl 10.         3. Shareware Online 2
   Software Vault Games       Night Owl Games          Gameware
   Software Vault Windows     Night Owl Graphics       Soundware
   Price - $49.00             Price - $65.00           Price - $49.00

4. Hobbes OS/2 'NOV'       5. Tech Arsenal          6. Pier 3
   Window Users Arch          TechnoTool               Cream Of The Crop II
   Price - $30.00             Price - $30.00           Price - $45.00

   ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUE 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8595
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93  2:26a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00  Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare   - $379.00  NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $249.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $739.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1169.  -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms w/ctl   - $369.00  Texel Ext 245ms Bare  - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int 3021 Bare  Dr - $189.00  Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $389.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SCSI

 Groilers Encyc DOS v6.  $50.          ALL ChestNuts CD's $10.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8596
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93  2:26a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 10.1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                       N I G H T  O W L  10.1

* Over 5,100 NEW Files   * Over 647 Meg's    * No Dupes   * Virus Checked
* No Dupes To v9.0       * All Zipped Files  * New Viewer * and  More  !!
"Night Owl 10.1 "  is here  and ready  for  delievery  !! All programs on
this cd were written or updated between Jan 1st and  Sept 1st 1993.  In
fact, 100megs of the total files are from Sept 1993.In addition, N.O has
a mouse driven GUI interface for both DOS and Windows !!
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8597
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93  2:26a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       A L L  N E W  C D  "S O  M U C H  M O D E M  M A D N E S S"

   7,200 Files             Over 600+ Megs                BBS Ready
   Rip Graphics - BBS Doors - BBS Programs - Modem Utils - Ham Radio
 Desqview - Ansi Graphics - Programming - OS/2 Communcation - Comm Prgs
 Networking Utils - Netmail Progs - Win Communcation - Transfer Protocol
 and a whole lot more......
                              Price - $25.00

 ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: GREG COBB                              Number: 8598
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93  8:37a
Subj: Weird Things                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        I just got my first disk, and I'm having some annoying problems out of
it.  I run SuperBBS and don't use a CDROM door, but maybe I should.  Sometimes
one file area will say "Files.BBS not found".  The extended descriptions are
being displayed odd too.  The first line shows in the normal colors like it
should, but the remaining lines are white.  I copied the files.bbs to my Hd and
removed the "|" before the description, and it didn't change anything.

        I also heard Norton Commander and TSRs can create a problem with CDROMs
too.  Is this something that could keep a ROM drive from running correctly?

        What I really want to know is what the chances are of having a bad
disk?

Thanks
-G-


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From: JOHN THOMPSON                          Number: 8599
  To: TIM HUTTO                                Date: 12/13/93  8:52a
Subj: SONY DUEL CDROM DRIVE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TH>    Just to let you know, that the Sony CD-ROMS are NOT SoundBlaster 
TH>    compatible.  They have a headphone jack on the front plate with 
TH>    volume control, but that is it.  So you are stuck with its own power. 
 
Say what?  My Sony CDU31A drive plays through my SoundBlaster just fine,
thank you.  Just use SoundBlaster's CDPLYR.EXE program...

 * KingQWK 1.05 # 39 * Department of Redundancy Department

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 8600
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/12/93  9:25a
Subj: Want CD's or Money                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Sent you $27.50 for some CD's but never recived the cd's. Are
 > you getting these reply's or not? Sent this money out on
 > Nov.18th, just let me know whats going on. Have had to many
 > people lately not sending what I have payed for. Will contact
 > bank to see if the check has already cleared. Sure hope you have
 > been to busy to get these out :) Waiting for your reply

Was busy, and also wanted to make sure the check cleared. You should have them
before you get this reply. Thanks.

Chris

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 8601
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/12/93  9:26a
Subj: NIGHT OWL                               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 > I'll be glad to interject here.  Night Owl's Publishing is being

Thanks. You are who I intended the original post to go to in the first place.
:D

Chris

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 8602
  To: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR.                   Date: 12/12/93  9:27a
Subj: CD Review Magzine                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Is Wayne Green back?

Lost me on this one.

Chris

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 8603
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/12/93  8:07p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 10 VIRUS REPORT               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

They are definatly there. Had a local sysop do some playing with the infected
files. The Butterfly is a very slick virus. It wasn't detectable until about an
hour after using the program. It had begun corrupting the files in the DOS
directory.

Are you still replacing the disc for those that purchased it from you. If so, I
would like to return it. If these are there, hard telling what else might be
lurking.

Chris

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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 8604
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 12/11/93 10:53a
Subj: Nec cd rom                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for a Nec 3xi and Pro Audio Studio 16xl or Turtle Beach
Multisound soundcard.  Looking for the best price.
 
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From: DUANE BROWN                            Number: 8605
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93  4:17p
Subj: Looking for CD-ROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a CD ROM for personal use.  I know about the single and double
speeds, with their 150k/sec and 300k/sec rates (that's what is claimed).  What
access times should I be looking for?  How much more,typically, is an external
CD rom, compared to a internal unit?   My current case does not have room for
anything internal.

Is there anything else that I am missing?



... Taglines are irrelavent... you will be assimilated!
... Pairanoia:   Two fears for the price of one.
... Labor Rate: $10/hour, $15/hour if you watch, $50 if you help.

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From: GREGORY GUALTIERI                      Number: 8606
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 12/13/93  3:19a
Subj: Re: CD's for sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Tell me about the SVGA cards. What kind? Regular or local bus? (I only need 
one)

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From: JOHN CALLICRATE                        Number: 8607
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93 10:41p
Subj: EZ-SCSI ver 1.0                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the original disk & manual for EZ-SCSI Ver 1.0
Has many drivers for CDROMS, and works w/ Adaptec controllers.

Will sell for the best offer, or trade for CD-ROM disk.
Leave message here, or phone me at 503/623-4924.

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From: JOHN CALLICRATE                        Number: 8608
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93 10:36p
Subj: EZ-SCSI Ver 2.03                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a 5 1/4 original disk for EZ-SCSI ver 2.03.
It has drivers for SCSI devices,
including many CD-ROM readers.
Make me an offer, I will consider trades of CD-ROM
disks that have text material.
Leave message here, or phone me at 503/623-4924.

 * MegaMail 2.10 #0:     P.O. Box 6, Dallas, OR  503/623-4924


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From: TERRY HAMEL                            Number: 8609
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93  5:56p
Subj: WANTED: Corel Draw v3                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for Corel Draw v3 with all manuals and CD-ROM.  Please
respond if you're looking to sell.

 * OLX 2.2 * Hello, I am part number ||#||||#||#||#||


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From: TODD HUGHES                            Number: 8610
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/12/93  4:29p
Subj: Cd-rom wanted badly                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        I would really appreciate from anyone, some prices on new or used
cd-rom drives for under $170.00.  I would probably have the money by christmas
or a little later.   I can be reached at 637-0323 or if thiers no answer call
637-0523, Or leave a message on micro f/x bbs at 392-2210 (mon-fri) 8pm-11pm.
Ask for Todd Hughes


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From: GEOFF HOWARD                           Number: 8611
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/12/93  9:29a
Subj: Night owl 10 virus report               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hi Mike,thanks for the prompt and business like way you handled my order,one of
which was night owl 10,I do not intend sending it back,but what is bothering me
is the fact that I can find no virus at all using scan 108,with the /a /sub
options,am I not using it right? thanks again

Geoff

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From: ROBIN HARDISON                         Number: 8612
  To: JASON TAYNOR                             Date: 12/08/93  7:07p
Subj: CD's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Jason!

07 Dec 93 17:34, Jason Taynor wrote to All:

 JT> I have Compton's MM encyclopedia and Lotus 123 for Windows on CD which I
 JT> will part for $50 shipped. Trades acceptable too..... Jason

Will you take $25 shipped for the encyclopedia?  If so, please send your
address.  Or have Black Box 4 and Dictionaries & Language CD's to trade.

Robin

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From: GREGG MCGRAW                           Number: 8613
  To: KEVIN BEYERS                             Date: 12/10/93  9:24a
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Wanted!!!! Cheap!!!!!!       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 KB> Hello I can sale you  A MiTsumi CD-rom for 200.00 brand new Plus tax
 KB> and shipping Kevin
 KB> beyers 
 
 That isn't a doublespeed is it?  Does it come with the controller card?
 Internal?
  
 Gregg




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From: ROBIN HARDISON                         Number: 8614
  To: MICHAEL GUIDRY                           Date: 12/09/93  6:08p
Subj: Bible Cd                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Michael!

 MG>> I've got The Bible Library containing 9 bibles and 20 reference works.
 MG>> The bibles are:

Do you still have this and wanting to get rid of it?  If so, how 'bout $20
shipped.  If this is acceptible, please send your address.
Thanks.

Robin

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From: CLIFF FIVEASH                          Number: 8615
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 12/10/93  6:07a
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RL>A life form named CLIFF beamed aboard the Enterprise and said:
RL>RL>Brand new Mitsumi CD ROM drive, in the box with all docs and accessor
RL>RL>This is the single speed, 350ms model. Got it as a gift but already h
RL>RL>one.
RL>RL>        $150 plus 1/2 shipping.
RL>CF>RON, Is this Mitsumi the caddy or caddyless model ? Internal or
RL>CF>external? Thanks,
RL>CF>Cliff
RL>Sorry, sold.
RL>Ron in Tampa
RL>73163.124@compuserve.com
RL>Prodigy: GHBF12B
RL> * WaveRdr 1.0 [NR] * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COP
RL>--- WM v3.10/91-0114
RL> * Origin: Mr. Bills Place BBS! ** Tampa, FL ** (813) 920-2193  (1:3603/170)

Thanks for the response Ron....
Cliff


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From: CLIFF FIVEASH                          Number: 8616
  To: WILLIAM WRIGHT                           Date: 12/10/93  7:03a
Subj: Peir 3                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WW> > Cliff Fiveash
WW> > p.s. I sent this private because I have customers who
WW> > are staunch
WW> >      advocates of Pier 3. :-) This is a private,
WW> > personal
WW> >      recommendation.
WW>Ahh, rememeber, ALL sysops can send private messages, so if your customers a
WW>sysops, well they can read this!
WW>--- FMail 0.96â
WW> * Origin: Isle of the Avatar, 918-455-8399, Tulsa, OK, 9600 (1:170/604)

William, I fully realize that all Sysops can read and send private
messages. I chose to send that message private because it was intended
to be to the receiver only. I DO NOT "Shrink" from the statements I made
nor do I really care who reads it. The bottom line is this:

1. There are thousands of GOOD Sysops in this world, who operate their
systems in a professional manner, with efficiency and INTEGRITY. They
provide a wonderful service to millions of computer users such as myself
and we appreciate it have great respect for them. These SYSOPS, RESPECT
THEIR USERS.

2. Then---There are a FEW Sysops (and only a few, thankfully) who, for
whatever reasons, are COMPLETELY LACKING IN PROFESSIONLISM, ETHICS AND
INTEGRITY when it comes to operating their systems and respecting their
users. They usually don't remain on the BBS scene for long and for
obvious reasons. The sad thing is,that while they are on the scene,
they tend to SOIL the Overall good reputation and high esteem in which
GOOD SYSOPS are held.

Which of the above categories do you fall into??

Cliff Fiveash


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From: CLIFF FIVEASH                          Number: 8617
  To: MICHAEL COLLIER                          Date: 12/10/93  7:47a
Subj: Asian Ladies Warning!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MC>CF>RL>--- WM v3.10/91-0114
MC>CF>RL> * Origin: Mr. Bills Place BBS! ** Tampa, FL ** (813) 920-2193
MC>CF>(1:3603/170)
MC>CF>
MC>CF>KINDA' SPOILS AN OTHERWISE, PRETTY GOOD DISC, DOESN'T IT. THEY ARE
MC>CF>SLIPPING THE C__KSUCKERS IN EVERYWHERE THESE DAYS--EVEN OUR "PRESIDENT
MC>CF>APPOINTS THEM TO CABINET POSTS!!!! KINDA' MAKES YOU WONDER WHAT HIS
MC>CF>"TRUE COLORS" REALLY ARE DOESN'T IT? LATER,
MC>CF>Cliff
************************************************************************
*MC>    Someone should make up a disc of Right Wing C__ksuckers and
they could MC>call it "FAR RIGHT FAGS" or "SMALL MINDS BIG D__KS!"
MC>    But you know, they'd probably have a problem with finding Right
MC>Wingers with big enough BALLS . . . Maybe they could could ship along a
MC>complementary magnification program with the disc.
MC>    Just a suggestion . .
MC>--- FastEcho/386 B1101
MC> * Origin: Quantum Leap Victoria BC (604)595-4407 [HST/V.32bis] (1:340/30)
Michael, my suggestion would be thus: Since you are so keen on this, why
don't you look into producing and publishing the suggested disc in
question? I would also suggest that you accumulate a great deal of
shareware programs to use as filler on this disc because I think the
subject matter you propose to use will prove to be almost non-existent.
If you want to continue with non-CD-RomSale debate, I suggest you take
it to an appropriate forum. Thanks...

Cliff Fiveash

 * OLX 2.1 TD * Professionals cost less than amateurs in the long run...


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From: CLIFF FIVEASH                          Number: 8618
  To: GARY GILMORE                             Date: 12/10/93  8:34a
Subj: Peir 3                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GG> CF> p.s. I sent this private because I have customers who are staunch
GG> CF>      advocates of Pier 3. :-) This is a private,  personal
GG> CF>      recommendation.
***********************************************************************
GG>Surprise!  There IS no such thing as "Private" in an echomail area.
GG>If you want private, use netmail, or better yet, a phone.
GG>--- Maximus 2.01wb
GG> * Origin: Bloom County BBS * Dearborn, MI * (313)582-0888 (1:2410/400)

Gary, Since I have only been BBSing for a couple of years, I asked a few
Sysop friends wht the deal was on the "Private" marking that you can
choose when you make replies. Also, what the difference was between
echomail and netmail. They informed me that there is no difference
between echomail and netmail and that if or when I choose the
"Private" option, that only Sysops, Co-Sysops or someone that they have
given "read access" to can read that message. They also told me that
nothing would prevent, any one of these Sysops, Co-Sysops or persons
with Sysop-granted read access, from making my message available to
general-user viewing, except for them possessing the qualities of a
"GOOD SYSOP" that I alluded to in my message to William Wright. (refer
to my message to him). If the facts that I have been given are accurate,
then the content of my message to Mr. Wright apply here too. Thanks...

Cliff Fiveash

 * OLX 2.1 TD * Professionals cost less than amateurs in the long run...


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From: CLIFF FIVEASH                          Number: 8619
  To: JOHN CARROLL                             Date: 12/10/93  8:36a
Subj: caddies for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JC>CF--> JC>        For Sale:  Quan. 10 CD-ROM caddies.  $3 each for Phillips a
JC>CF--> Sony
JC>CF--> JC>                   CD-ROM Players.
JC>CF--> JC>                   Call Florida 407-569-9411 or reply this echo.
JC>CF--> JC>                   Thanks!   John Carroll
JC>CF--> JC> * Origin: Treasure Coast,Vero Bch.Fl.407-569-0569 RA-PRO 14.4
JC>CF--> (1:374/569)
JC>CF--> John, are these caddies new or used? If used, what
JC>CF--> condition are they
JC>CF--> in? I will want them if they are in like new condition.
JC>CF--> Thanks.
JC>        These caddies are like new, used 1 time each to load and unload a cd
JC>in a Phillips CD Drive. I think I have them all sold, but if not will get ba
JC>in touch with you in about a week. Thanks for the inquiry!
JC>        ...John
JC> * Origin: Treasure Coast,Vero Bch.Fl.407-569-0569 RA-PRO 14.4 (1:374/569)

Thanks for the reply John.
Cliff

 * OLX 2.1 TD * Professionals cost less than amateurs in the long run...


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From: CLIFF FIVEASH                          Number: 8620
  To: ANISH ACHARYA                            Date: 12/10/93 10:23a
Subj: Peir 3                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AA>Cliff,
AA>       Yes, I am interested in Cream Of The Crop II.  Please send me the
AA>       appropriate information.  If you like I can netmail you with my
AA>       own personal information.  Is that $30 American, or Canadian?
AA>       Do you accept money orders.  Thanks!
AA>Regards,
AA>Anish Acharya
AA>--- FMail 0.96â
AA> * Origin: The Eclipse BBS, (613) 634-1104 (1:249/117)

Anish, Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Yes, that is $30 U.S.
plus shipping costs (method of your choice) and yes, I do take money
orders. The shipping choices are as follows:
1. Federal Express- $19.50 (U.S.) -Next day delivery
2. U.S. PostalService Express(Canada)$11.50 (U.S.)-2 to 3 day delivery.
3. U.S. Postal Service(Regular)- $4.50 (U.S.)-5 to 7 day delivery.
Make Money Orders payable to: Cliff Fiveash
I look forward to serving you. Thanks..
Cliff

Cliff Fiveash
FIVEASH INFORMATION SYSTEMS
8984 NORTH DAVIS HIGHWAY Ste.308
PENSACOLA, FLORIDA 32514
USA
(904)477-0210 (Voice)
(904)484-7010 (Voice/Fax)


 * OLX 2.1 TD * Professionals cost less than amateurs in the long run...


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From: RICK PEDLEY                            Number: 8621
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 12/13/93  8:09p
Subj: Forbidden subjects cd                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HB>BTW:  Our "sample" copy of F/S is probably nestled between some toxic
HB>waste and rotting debris in some land-fill site somewhere in
HB>Ontario...where is belongs!

Oh good, so all I have to do is keep running my tap and I'll eventually get a
free copy! ;-)

Rick

 * DeLuxe2 1.26b #9691 *

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From: GREG GILETTO                           Number: 8622
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/12/93  6:28p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
 
FOR SALE: 
Mitsumi CD-ROM drive (LU005 350ms 150kbs 32k Cache) with 
SB PRO 16 bit sound card:    $250.00 
 
 
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: GARY MULLETT                           Number: 8623
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 12/12/93  7:16p
Subj: Cd's For sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JJ>CD's for sale
JJ>also have 2 SVGA cards with 1 meg (8900c) (ET4000)

What price range are you looking for -- and do the cards include docs.
I have a friend looking for a basic SVGA card like these.
   
 * OLX 2.2 * I don't do taglines.

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 8624
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 12/13/93 12:43a
Subj: Big Sky                                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

AG> JL> Big Sky Rom II - Top Drawer (Pre-Orders) $19.00 
  > JL> Soon to be released!  This disc has our highest 
  > JL> recommendation for a top notch BBS Ready CD-Rom. 
  > JL> You will not find a better shareware disc..... 
 
AG>Considering that this has not yet been released, and you are 
  >giving it your highest recommendation, I can only assume that 
  >either you are producing the disc yourself, or you have seen 
  >the files listing for the disc.  In either case, I'd be very 
  >interested in carrying this disc if it is as good or better 
  >than other currently available shareware discs. 
 
Hi Arnie.  No, I am not bragging on my own work.  I am one of a handful 
of dealers chosen to carry Big Sky.  I am not sure what the criteria 
was, but the producers didn't want to see the cut-throat type of deals 
you see with other titles such as Night Owls.  I am very familiar with 
the first Big Sky Rom, and have it online my BBS.  The producers are 
very receptive to suggestions and have made it a breeze for sysops to 
configure.  They go through a lot to ensure all files are thoroughly 
checked out, and the file descriptions and dates are accurate.  It 
surprised me that they want it to sell for only $19, but I respect their 
decision, and I am sure that it will be a tremendous seller.  I know the 
quality is there. 
 
AG>(1) Do you have a files listing available and, if so, would 
  >   you please it to me (or tell me where to f'req it)? 
 
Not yet.  I'll see if I can get it soon. 
I'll pass your info along to the producers. 
 
Computer Works                                  Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 8625
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93  8:40a
Subj: Big Sky Special                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                        ****** Big Sky Rom ****** 
 
 *  7024 Archives, 664,860,429 bytes of downloadable archives. 
 *  All archives use Pkzip 2.04g maximum compression. 
 *  All files scanned with McAfee Associates SCAN 9.15 V104 
 *  All archives contain a FILE_ID.DIZ to identify them. This feature 
    saves the receiving sysops loads of work! 
 *  All files are True Date Stamped based on the largest file. 
 *  All archives compared to the latest Hack Report lists to remove 
    any illegal, commercial, or hacked programs. 
 *  No unnecessary files or directories cluttering the disc. 
 
Big Sky Rom I  - The Downloader's Rom    $26.00 
 
Big Sky Rom II - Top Drawer (Pre-Orders) $19.00 
 
Top Drawer will soon be released!  This disc has our highest 
recommendation for a top notch BBS Ready CD-Rom.  You will not find 
a better shareware disc for your money! 
 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice           Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
(205) 671-0092 BBS        Download CATALOG.ZIP for our full catalog. 
 
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From: MIKE KERCSMAR                          Number: 8626
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/12/93  2:28p
Subj: CD's wanted                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like to purchase the following CD's. If you have them, let me know! 
   Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis 
   Rebel Assault
Michael Kercsmar
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From: JEFF HUBERT                            Number: 8627
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/08/93  8:56p
Subj: games and cd-roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I still have Phoenix 4.0 cd-rom, but I sold the others. I can send C.O.D but
that costs reg. shipping plus $4 c.o.d cost. Based on where you live the total
cost with C.O.D would be $22 or probably $18 if you send me a check first. Do
you still want me to send it to you? thanks for replying.

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From: JEFF HUBERT                            Number: 8628
  To: WILLIAM WRIGHT                           Date: 12/08/93  8:59p
Subj: games and cd-roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I sold all of them except for phoenix 4.0 which I have a potential buyer for. I
am still accepting offers for the phoenix until someone tells me to ship it.
thanks for responding

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From: ADAM LEVY                              Number: 8629
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93  4:24p
Subj: Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective Volume 1 Review  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

yeah it's a review.  Here Joe!
This game is full video.  Great for the person who wants to test out
their new drive.  There is really no action that I know of.  The acting
is quite superb.  The one and only drawback, is that there is no action. 
It's basically who to interrogate when.  That's as far as I've gotten. 
There is a plus.  There are 3 different cases to play through: The Case
Of The Mummy's Curse, The Case Of The Tin Soldier, and the Case Of The
Mystified Murderess.  Each with its own set of actors, and video clips. 
The stories are modeled after Sherlock Holmes cases, so if you like
those, I strongly suggest it.  I personally wasn't that enthusiastic
about it.  I just like watching it.  If you are into Sherlock Holmes, and
like a good mystery, this is the most complex, and fun one that I've seen.
Adam Levy, age 13
Youth program reviewer
config.sys, Inc.
WWIVnet 24@2085
FidoNet 1:157/479


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From: ADAM LEVY                              Number: 8630
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93  4:32p
Subj: LOOM review                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

And another:
Loom is a game about magic, with a hidden message of music, but you
don't really about that, do you?  Well, you are a student of magic, and
everyone is out against you.  After a few minutes into the game, you have
a staff, which lets you cast spells, but first you have to figure out to
cast the spell (with which notes.  That's the music part).  The game
starts where you can cast very few spells, because you can only use three
notes.  But that is where the game starts the challenge.  Getting the
rest of the notes, and figuring out the spell.  The speech is good, but
not great (you can hear the guys lip smacking together when he says the
line: Well, I guess that isn't a draft.), but the graphics are very good,
for the games of the time.  The interface stinks.  The left button of the
mouse is to walk to something.  The right is to look at it.  The staff is
where the action takes place.  I recommend this game for kids age 3-8. 
**** for that age category!
Review by:
Adam Levy, age 13
Youth program reviewer
config.sys, Inc.
WWIVnet 24@2085
FidoNet 1:157/479


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From: DENNIS HENDERSON                       Number: 8631
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/11/93 10:44p
Subj: BUSTY BABES VOLUME II                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>>Geesh, how good could some gal at 37 be ?

My wife is 41 and will make you stammer, stutter and drool all over
yourself.  Don't be so quick to generalize based on age alone....older
frequently IS better.  An experienced self-confident WOMAN beats a
nervous giggly GIRL hands down!  But we stray from the topic....


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From: DENNIS HENDERSON                       Number: 8632
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 12/11/93 11:05p
Subj: Adult cd's to Trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN>I have the new Amateur Models for sale or trade if interested.

Will you take $20 for it?


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From: JEFF MARTIN                            Number: 8633
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93  8:23p
Subj: Software Vault & Premades               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

I have read a few messages referencing Software Vault no longer being
RELEASED with ROMDOOR PREMADE Databases.  I find Software Vault an
excellent CD-Rom Disk as good as Night Owl.

The main deciding factor between me purchasing Software Vault versus
Night Owl has been the ability to copy over the Romdoor Premade
Databases and be up and running with the disk online within 3 minutes..

If this is untrue I would appreciate someone letting me know so I can
continue using Software Vault CD ROMS.  If not I guess I will be moving
back over to the Night Owl CD Roms..

 * WCE 1.10/2144 * F„hrvergn�gen: German for no leg room


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From: JOHN JAMES                             Number: 8634
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 12/14/93 10:35a
Subj: Busty Babes II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RL> AV>  Busty Babes came in yesterday.  I haven't taken my eyes
RL> off my monitor yet!!!  Many thanks.
RL>
RL> AV>  To anyone else thinking of buying this CD, it's definitely
RL> worth the money!!

I was REALLY disappointed with BUSTY BABES II.  The quality of the scans is
excellent but no one told me that most of the disks consists of regular
sharewware programs, Thats right, less than 1/2 of the files are Busty Babes.
The rest are files that are all on Night Owl, Pier 3, etc.

I really felt like I was "ripped off."

John


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From: JEFF DANNER                            Number: 8635
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93 11:51a
Subj: CD-ROM Shareware                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am currently running a BBS at Longview Community College.  We are
considering adding a CD-ROM.  However I have only seen one CD that had
shareware on it.  I anyone out there knows where I can get shareware on CD
please leave me a message.   Thank You.  
 
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From: MICHAEL MESCHKE                        Number: 8636
  To: TOTALLY CRAZY                            Date: 12/12/93  8:57p
Subj: Comment 12/12/93 8:56pm                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Did you get my picture file? It's labeled "meschke.gif".  I FINALLY
found out how to size down those graphic files I create when scanning
(at least for now)..

                                                 Mike
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From: ELDON WAKEFIELD                        Number: 8637
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/13/93  7:06a
Subj: Re: CD'S                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Pat if you want them for 40.00 you can have them, The MegaRom 2 was sold but I
will trow in another one of equal value plus better Eldon
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From: GREG COBB                              Number: 8638
  To: CLIFF FIVEASH                            Date: 12/14/93  8:14a
Subj: Peir 3                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Gary, Since I have only been BBSing for a couple of years, I asked
>a few Sysop friends wht the deal was on the "Private" marking that you
>can choose when you make replies. Also, what the difference was
>between echomail and netmail. They informed me that there is no difference
>between echomail and netmail and that if or when I choose the
>"Private" option, that only Sysops, Co-Sysops or someone that they
>have given "read access" to can read that message.

Kinda makes me wonder what they're doing being sysops!  The difference is like
daylight and dark.  You're in a national echo, and it probably hit about 10000
computers.


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From: MARK LUTZ                              Number: 8639
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/14/93  8:00a
Subj: Refund                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris i'm still waiting on that check we talked about. It's now dec 14 still 
haven't recieved.

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From: KEITH LOONEY                           Number: 8640
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93  1:43p
Subj: nec driver                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Help! I'm looking for a nec driver for a mac. I tried calling NEC and
spent over 1/2 hour being switched from one department to another.
Does anyone have the latest driver for sale? The kit number is
cdma-002.

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 * Origin: Phila. Amiga Users' Group BBS 215-551-6113/1120 (1:273/912.0)
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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 8641
  To: GREGORY GUALTIERI                        Date: 12/14/93  8:41a
Subj: Re: CD's for sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GG>  Tell me about the SVGA cards. What kind? Regular or local bus? (I only

I think maybe this message was intended for someone else, eh? I mean, I
_could_ tell you about SVGA cards, if you'd like, but somehow, I don't think I
was the intended receiver (grin).

GG>  --- Renegade v12-09 Hack

Renegade, eh? I used to run it, nice little "hack" of Telegard...

-e-

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 8642
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 12/14/93  7:25a
Subj: Want CD's or Money                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Chris!

Sunday December 12 1993, Chris Bourne writes to Pat Rickerson:


 >> Sent you $27.50 for some CD's but never recived the cd's. Are
 >> you getting these reply's or not? Sent this money out on
 >> Nov.18th, just let me know whats going on. Have had to many
 >> people lately not sending what I have payed for. Will contact
 >> bank to see if the check has already cleared. Sure hope you have
 >> been to busy to get these out :) Waiting for your reply

 CB> Was busy, and also wanted to make sure the check cleared. You should have
 CB> them before you get this reply. Thanks.

Got them yesterday, thanks.
Pat

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From: DON HOOKER                             Number: 8643
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/14/93  3:31p
Subj: LIST                                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike, still waiting for your current CD list.. Thanx
        Don Hooker
        506 Barnes Drive
        Brandon,fla. 33511
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8644
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 12/13/93 11:59p
Subj: CENSORSHIP                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DR> BF>  In the PC Mag case, governmental PRESSURE appears to have been
applied,
DR> BF> and therefore it DEFINITELY qualifies as censorship - even by YOUR
limit
DR> BF> definition.

DR>What is the basis for this statement?  I don't think you have a basis, other
DR>than "personal opinion."  There is NO appearance that ANY pressure from ANY
DR>group was applied.  PC Magazine made a decision, which they are free to do.
DR>feel they implemented a policy that's fair to both sides.  All they did was
DR>remove the pictures.  XXX can still be advertised, just without the enticing
DR>pictures.  Any reputable magazine would not want such pictures in their
pages
DR>Especially when they're trying to reach such a wide audience.

I'm happy just as long as Sears and Penneys keep the lingerie pictures in
their catalogs. <g>

Later Mr. Toastmaster,
.\\ike

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 * SLMR 2.1a * I've told you a million times not to exaggerate.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8645
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 12/13/93 11:59p
Subj: 14.4 modem                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>Brand new, in the box, 14.4 modem from Infotel.  10 year warranty, rock
solid
MB>with fax, MNP and v.42/v.42.bis.  Includes software and phone cord.  Will
MB>consider trading for a 386sx barebones, or prefer a CD-Rom drive.  Reply
here
MB>1:133/2401 netmail, 404-991-6609 bbs, or 404-991-5780 voice.
MB>MICHAEL BENGE

Hey Terry, you looking for a modem?  Maybe he'll send it to you on
approval.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8646
  To: MIKE GRIFFIN                             Date: 12/14/93 12:00a
Subj: CD GUIDE FREE W/ $100+ PR               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG> MS> changing game. 8)  Tell ya what, remind me on your next order, and I'll
MG> MS> throw one in for free, regardless of the order total.  Fair enough?

MG>Thats why I do business with ya! More than fair!

No prob.  Just remind me on the next go-round.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8647
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 12/14/93 12:00a
Subj: Forbidden Subjects CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HB>MS>Interesting.  I've had a few customers request it, but I've never looked
a
HB>MS>one.  What is it that makes it "macabre"?

HB>Hi, Mike:

HB>Well, for starters, it has GIFs showing such things as people (or what's
HB>left of them) fatally injured by bomb blasts; executed by guillotine;
HB>some having had radical surgery performed to various extremities of
HB>their bodies; infants who have been crushed in car accidents; previously
HB>unreleased (and for good reason) photos of murder victims; and so many
HB>more "delightful" things to feed ones mind on.

GACK!!  Guess we won't be stocking that one.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8648
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93 12:00a
Subj: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #5: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS   |
         |________________________________________________________|


   1. Games Collection     2. CD Winbox           3. Busty Babes vol 2
      Games 1993              Windows Collection     Digital Dreams
      Game Arena              Dr. Windows            Amateur Models
      ----------              -----------            --------------
      $59                     $59                    $79


   4. Digital Dreams 1     5. Ham Radio 3.0       6. Pier 2
      Digital Dreams 2        Hamware 1993           Pier 3
      ----------------        ------------           ------
      $54                     $31                    $49


   7. Software Vault 1     8. Clipart Galore      9. Shareware '93 vol 2
      Software Vault 2        Clipart Heaven         Pier 3
      Software Vault Gold     Ency. of Clipart       Software Vault Gold
      -------------------     ----------------       -------------------
      $57                     $59                    $69


  10. CD Winbox           11. Giga Games         12. OS/2Box
      Windows 93              Game Arena             Hobbes OS/2
      ----------              ----------             -----------
      $44                     $35                    $39


  13. Fantazia Fonts      14. OS/2Box           15. Shareware Online 1
      Fontmaster 2            CD Powerbox           Shareware Online 2
      Too Many Typefonts      CD Winbox             So Much Shareware 3
      ------------------      ---------             -------------------
      $49                     $49                   $69

PLUS, AN ADDED BONUS . . . . .

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8649
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93 12:00a
Subj: CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

           ______________________________________________________
          |                                                      |
          |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #3:  CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS   |
          |______________________________________________________|

            We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
             - Cards are not processed until date of shipment -

 CD POWERBOX 2 * What's better and newer than NO10 or Pier 3? One guess.$29
 CD SOURCEBOX * Current code for VisualBasic, Pascal, and C.............$29
 PC-SIG 13 * Newest CD from the oldest shareware distributor............$33

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 8650
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/09/93 10:48p
Subj: SIMTEL-20 UTILITIES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Brice,

 >>BF>   Simtel 20 doesn't have the search engine, but it DOES have the best
 > BF>
 >> assortment of GOOD utilities I have seen anywhere. Not the "newest"  BF>
 >>stuff, more the "best no matter HOW old it might happen to be" stuff.

 >>They didn't put the search engine on the CD?

          I have been working, for the last few months, on a general purpose
search engine for BBS file bases.  The idea is that it will eventually become a
door to be used on-line.  I intend to offer this as a service for users and
SysOp's alike.  The "engine" works on words in the file descriptions and
operates EXTREMELY quickly.  I have 6 CDs and 2Gb on-line here with 41856 files
all together, the text "files list" is around 5Mb.

          The off-line engine will find ANY file from any word or combination
of words given in about a second.  Searching for "hard" combinations can take a
little longer.  Looking for "-93" for example turns up over 17000 files and it
takes about 3 seconds to locate the list, on a 386 <grin>.

          Lists can be printed to the printer or output to a file.  The on-line
version has direct file tagging for Maximus BBSs.

          If you have your BBS file list in PCB format, it's just a convenient
format <grin>, then send it to me and I'll send a copy of the engine and
database for your CD.  Database size is about 3.5Mb per CD on average.

Send a couple of diskettes and your files lists and take a test.

    PL 97

    02101 Espoo

    Finland


Some stats from the Simtel-20 CD from a few weeks ago:-

>  Simtel-20 has 173 file areas with 6742 files
>  a "file" is a description record and may be more than the
>  actual number of Files.
>
> File descriptions containing the words "window" and "edit"    9
>
> File descriptions containing the word "morph"                 6
>
> Files dated within 1993                                    1339


                                                   Cheers,

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From: MICHAEL GUIDRY                         Number: 8651
  To: DANNY BRIGANCE                           Date: 12/14/93 10:23p
Subj: Bible Cd                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I was sick on Monday, so I didn't get the Bible CD into the mail until
Tuesday evening.  Let me know when it arrives.


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From: MICHAEL GUIDRY                         Number: 8652
  To: PAUL SWIDER                              Date: 12/14/93 10:24p
Subj: Medline Cd                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Got the medline CD.  Thanks.

If you got anymore, I'll take em.


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From: JOHN LITTLE                            Number: 8653
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 12/13/93 11:39a
Subj: Amateur Models For Trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well, if you still have it, I am looking for a good CD-ROM, but 
it needs to have at least 550 Megs.  If you just do a DIR /S 
from the root, it will eventually tell you how many megs are on 
the disk.
Thanks, John Little


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From: JOHN LITTLE                            Number: 8654
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/13/93  5:56p
Subj: HOT CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You take VISA or Mastercard?
John

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From: SHANNON ADAMS                          Number: 8655
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93  9:31p
Subj: CD'S For Trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the follow CD's for trade:

Where in the World is Carmen SanDiego Deluxe?
1993 Guinness Multimedia Disk of Records
Aldus Photostyler SE

I will consider all trades, but I am look for the following:

7th Quest
Good Adult CD
Cinemania or similar "movie review" CD
Microsoft Bookshelf

Please leave me a message with what you have.
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From: NICHOLAS WESSELS                       Number: 8656
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93 10:33a
Subj: New Titles                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi everyone, just here to tell you Software Connection is moving to a
bigger shop in Sandton City. We are now right next to Stuttafords and
our new shop is bigger and better. We have a great multimedia section
and we have some great new titles. Come see Rebel Assault if you havent
seen it yet it is definately something to look out for!

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From: NICHOLAS WESSELS                       Number: 8657
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/12/93  4:46a
Subj: Free CD-ROM !!!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>Good deal!!! There's a free CD in the December issue of Multimedia
JR>World Magazine. The mag costs $3.95 and includes a disk which
JR>is supposed to have a full 600MB of software demos on it,
JR>plus a couple shareware programs.

JR>The mag itself is quite cool. Good reviews of CD and MPC titles.
JR>You can probably find it at news stand or supermarket. Enjoy!!!

JR>Jeremy in Chicago.

JR>  CmpQwk #UNREG  UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY
JR>--- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3
JR> * Origin: Space Oddity - Chicago, Il. - 312-477-9738 - FidoNet  (1:115/477)

Great cd-rom magzine and Software connection is selling it now. Come and
get em or call Nick at 883-5790 to see if we still have stock. Also
available new issue of Comp Gaming world and Pc Games Magazine.
Chow!

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From: BRIAN DHATT                            Number: 8658
  To: RUSTY ATKINS                             Date: 12/07/93 10:17p
Subj: OS/2 2.1 CD-ROM For Sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

04 Dec 93 12:59, Rusty Atkins wrote to Paul T.Nelson:

 RA> Exactly what is this OS/2 for windozes anyway? Is IBM giving-up
 RA> already? Running an operating system emulator under an operating
 RA> environment (that the s/w company likes to call an operating
 RA> SYSTEM) under DOS does not seem very beneficial. I heard nothing
 RA> of this software in the magazines. I was just walking through a
 RA> local retail store and saw it.... very puzzling.

It is the same thing as the full OS/2 2.1 without Windows.  This so IBM does
not have to pay a licensing fee for Windows 3.1 to Microsoft.  OS/2 uses the
Windows already on the drive.  It does not run under Windows.

To stay on topic, the CD version includes several things the diskette version
does not.  I believe most of the extras are multimedia movies and sound.

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From: MIKE HILL                              Number: 8659
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 12/11/93  6:37p
Subj: Shipment received...                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    Joe,
      I received the PhoneDisc residential version today. Works great,
    MOST of the numbers I've researched so far have been correct. I
    guess that's the best that can be expected when dealing with phone
    numbers. Anyway, I'm happy with it, and thanks for your quick response.
                                                Mike

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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 8660
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93  2:26p
Subj: New Philips SCSI prices!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


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      orders        \\          presents           //     Carte Blanche
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       14.4         //      **  all budgets **     \\       accepted!
                    \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/////////////////

                   Orders...(517)892-5518 9am - 9pm EST
                             7 DAYS A WEEK!!


********** This weeks special... Philips CM-215/10 SCSI internal *******
   ************ COMPLETE PLUG AND PLAY UNITS and its SCSI ************
                                Comes with!
                       8 bit Future Domain 850 SCSI card
              Ribbon cable, manuals, mounting screws for only...
          >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 200.00 ea.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
             AND BEST OF ALL, THESE DRIVES ARE BACKED BY A FULL
                        24 MONTH FACTORY WARRANTY!!!!!
                              COMPLETE UNITS..
                   Bare units are also available too!!!!!
          NO GIMMICKS, NO GIMMICKS, NO GIMMICKS, AND ABSOLUTELY
                                 NO GIMMICKS


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From: JOHN HUNTER                            Number: 8661
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93 12:39a
Subj: Pro Phone CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone happen to have a copy of the 92 Pro Phone CD <business>?
New or used.                             ^^

How Much?
Name and Address Please.
Thanks !


Jack/Pitts \     JHH@genie.geis.com -Internet
JHH -GENIE  \    jhunter #208@1412007-Virtual Net

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From: BOB LOUDER                             Number: 8662
  To: CHRIS STANFORD                           Date: 12/14/93  1:45p
Subj: 7TH GUEST                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Steve KraislerChris Stanford7TH GUEST

CS>>->I've finished 7th Guest and am willing to part with it for $30 buck
CS>>->plus shipping. 

I will offer $25 plus shipping. Reply here or 1:363/542.

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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 8663
  To: DAN WADE                                 Date: 12/14/93  4:51p
Subj: Busty Babes Vol II                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <11Ä05Ä93 15:21> Dan Wade wrote:

DW>> Well as far as I am concerned, Busty Babe II is a real
DW>> winner. I love all the high res scans and the good variety
DW>> of shots.

I am glad that you are happy with the disc.

DW>> I have a disk called Southern Beauties that also is fairly
DW>> new, but the way the women pose was all the same pretty much.

This was something that Bob Jackson pointed out in his review. We
are making an effort to get more variety of shots on future
productions.

DW>> I like that Busty has 1,000 different scans on it and the
DW>> shareware is a nice extra.

IMHO, when a disc indicates on the packaging that a bonus of
200M of Shareware is provided, I would expect there to be more
GIFs than Shareware. Also Shareware discs cost a good bit
less than quality adult image discs. But, again I am glad that
you are satisfied with the disc.

DW>> That Southern Beauties disk had the same pictures repeated
DW>> as real big TIF files, this is where they get all the meg
DW>> from. I mean to say Busty ads were misleading is not true.
DW>> I feel I got everything they said I would, 1,000 hi-res
DW>> scans (actually 1,001) whereas your ad says 1,000 scans
DW>> over 675 meg. Well how could you both have 1,000 scans, yet
DW>> you have 3X the meg that Busty has? At least I can use
DW>> the shareware on Busty, your TIF files I are useless to me
DW>> since I don't have the equipment to appreciate them.

Southern Beauties contains 1,003 GIF images and advertised 1,000
on the back cover.  The 234 TIFs are 24 bit true color files that
are duplicates of the best images of the 1,003 GIFs provided on
the disc. The GIFs on Southern Beauties are ALL (Hi-Res) 1024 x
768 x 256. The GIFs on Busty Babes Vol II are a mix of 1024 x
768 x 256 and 800 x 600 x 256, which could explain the difference
in the amount of megs between the two discs containing approx.
1,000 GIFs. On the back cover of the disc, we provided the FACTS
of Total Megabytes, number of GIFs, and the fact that the disc
contained 300M of the best GIFs in 24 bit True Color.  The
purchaser was fully aware of what he/she was receiving by reading
the packaging.

DW>> As far as all the derogatory comments about Busty Babes II Mr.
DW>> Vangelder, didn't your partner used to work with the producer
DW>> of Busty Babes?? and isn't it true there may be some bitterness
DW>> and competition that may really jade your opinion of this
DW>> disk?? From what I recall Southern Beauties (your disk) didn't
DW>> get such rave reviews either.

What I put in the post you refer to was a list of FACTS.  If you
felt they were incorrect, please let me know which ones.  In another
post I sent to ALL today, I included a reprint of that post which
you can refer to if you do not have a copy.  As for your comment
about Southern Beauties not getting such rave reviews either, I am
a bit confused.  Below are some of the complementary things Bob
Jackson said about Southern Beauties in his review.  I am NOT
intending on hiding the critical or uncomplementary things he
said about the disc, as there were good constructive comments
made on how to improve the disc.  We certainly paid close attention
to these comments and will always try to improve each production.
Although as he states below, " It has so much right going for it
that its "positives" overwhelm its "negatives".


From Bob Jackson's review:

Make no mistake, these are large files (more on this later in
the VISUAL section).
Visual
======

The production values of SB are quite high.  To begin, the jewel box
has beautiful full-color inserts both front and back, with the front
cover insert being two-sided.  As an added bonus, the images on the
inserts are true WYSIWYG - What You See Is What You Get. The
pictures thus shown are also scans on the CD - a delightful change
from some other adult material. Secondly, a great number of the
scans are FULL SCREEN in size.  Oh, what a welcome sight!  Thank
you GIoF! Those that aren't truly full screen are either full screen
in height or width, with the other dimension being well-proportioned.
In short, there's NO lack of eyewash on this CD, and no need to
squint or "zoom in".  Other producers take note: The standard in this
regard has been forever raised.

The quality of the scans in SB is, in general, very high. To begin,
let there be no mistake, the women of SB are gorgeous!  Not only that,
but they all seem to know it and are damn proud of it, thank you very
much!  If you're a sighted, heterosexual male (i.e. a card-carrying
member of SB's targeted audience), and you subscribe to the
mainstream of thinking about what represents feminine pulchritude,
you're sure to find at least one, and probably several, "Fantasy
Lovers" on this CD. If you can't, you're either one sexually burned
out puppy, or you lied about meeting the above criteria.

Other welcome amenities are, for example, models that are
professionally made up, including attentions to detail like manicured
fingernails; the use of new/fresh props and sets; etc.  GIoF
obviously paid a LOT of attention to the production of this CD, and
it shows.

Bottom line:  SB is a winner. If you don't have need for a BBS-able
CD, and don't want the XXX stuff (tho' some scans in DUO13 & 14 and
TRIO come pretty close), SB will knock your socks off with LARGE
images of beautiful women in beautiful poses. (I fell in love, or at
least lust, several times!)  To use a baseball metaphor, SB is at
least a triple for sure.  Correct a few things, add a GUI like
SHOWOFF, and you'd have an out-of-the-park home run,  Nonetheless,
SB raises the ante for adult CDs considerably.  It has so much right
going for it that its "positives" overwhelm its "negatives".  Truly,
the main fault that I find with the CD, fixation on one type of pose,
others might find to be it's strongest suite - and that's A-OK.
This is the CD that Digital Dreams (Ero Tek) and Giffy Gold were
trying to be, but failed by a wide margin.  If you liked either one
of them, plop down your money and get SB.  BTW: Add a seat belt to
the chair if front of your PC before you start - you'll need it!

The TIFs images were selected from the best of the GIFs (it shows)
but only after the GIFs names had been re-sorted to be sequential.
Accordingly, some of the GIF/TIF pairs will line up name-wise, some
won't. Bottom line: It don't make a hoot! For now at least, Southern
Beauties is the slickest, prettiest adult CD out there. Dave promises
that the next one will be even better. I can't wait!!



DW>> I feel the consumer needs to really judge for themselves. Both
DW>> disks are really good products, but I think Busty Babes II is
DW>> a better value for the money. Again this is just a personal
DW>> opinion, but as a connoisseur of adult disks, I'd like to see
DW>> disks more like Busty II. Thanks Busty publishers, keep up the
DW>> good work!!!!

You certainly have a right to your opinion and I certainly agree
that the consumer needs to really judge for themselves.  I am also
pleased that you think that Southern Beauties is a good disc.
If Ms. Noga decides to combine adult image discs with shareware
again, it appears that you will be one who will purchase it and be
pleased.

BTW, one of my businesses is selling computer hardware and I can


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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 8664
  To: DAN WADE                                 Date: 12/14/93  4:51p
Subj: Busty Babes Vol II                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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                     >> Continued from previous message <<


sell you a 1M 24 bit true color video graphics card for between
$65.00 and $100.00.  That will enable you to view the TIF files if
you would like that capability.

After all, if I am good enough to sell Ms. Noga her 1.2 Gig
Micropolis Hard Drive, I'd be only to happy to do business with you.  
 
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From: ROBERT MOSS                            Number: 8665
  To: MICHAEL GUIDRY                           Date: 12/13/93 10:42p
Subj: Bible Cd's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >RM>MG>I've got The Bible Library containing 9 bibles and 20 reference
  >RM>  >The bibles are:
  >RM>
  >RM>MG>American Standard, King James, Living Bible, New International,
  >RM>King
  >RM>  >James, Revised Standard, Simple English Bible, New Testament
  >RM>  >Transliteration.
  >RM>        Michael,
  >RM>                If he's not interested, I would be. Please let me k
  >RM>

MG>Robert,

MG>I already promised it to Danny Brigance.  If, for some reason, the deal
  >falls thru, will let you know.

MG>Sorry,
  >Mike

                Thanks anyway Mike.
                         Robert
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From: RAY MATTHEWS                           Number: 8666
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 12/14/93  5:36p
Subj: Busty Babes II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* in a message to Audie Vickers <12 Dec 93 20:47> Ronald Leon wrote:

 >AV>  Busty Babes came in yesterday.  I haven't taken my eyes off my monitor
 >AV>  yet!!!  Many thanks. 

 RL> It's not R rated is it? Would you rate it R, X or XXX?

    I would consider it to be 'R' rated (no sex acts), except for one or two
directories which would be 'X'. 

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From: ANDREW STUDER                          Number: 8667
  To: MICHAEL COLLIER                          Date: 12/12/93  8:21p
Subj: Asian Ladies Warning!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MC>    Well then you must be aware of the situation! I mean, we can't have 
MC> guys posting messages putting down people like yourself just because of 
MC> your sexual preference. Some of my best friends are Co__ksuckers, Ooops I 
MC> mean Gay, like yourself. It's terrible that small minded people should 
MC> have such strongly held, violent reactions against people like yourself.
MC>    I really admire you for coming out and declaring your sexual preference
MC> 
MC> for all to see. That must take alot of guts. Alot more guts than it takes 
MC> to throw around ignorant insults.

Actually, it is not my preference, nor am I coming out any more than you would
come out being heterosexual.  Yes, I am gay, but that has nothing to do with
the subject of why the moderator allows non-CD discussions in this room.

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From: CHUCK ADAMS                            Number: 8668
  To: DAN HERRICK                              Date: 12/14/93  8:44a
Subj: Rendezvous with Rama                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ok, I will trade you for War in Middle-East.
Let me know your address so I can send the package.
if you want to call me my number is (601)466-4952


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From: HARVEY SIMMONS                         Number: 8669
  To: JEFF HUBERT                              Date: 12/14/93  8:56a
Subj: SimCity                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jeff,
I'm really interested in getting that copy of SimCity on 3.5" diskette.
Sounds like a great deal. I'll be in touch with you later for the
details. Thanks.

Harvey Simmons



JH> I have the following games and cd-roms for sale.
JH> All products have original manuals, disks, boxes, etc. and are in excellent
JH> condition. Prices are negotiable. Buy more than one product and I'll give
JH> you a discount. Call (410) 442-2726 NOW!

JH> Product                     | Disk size   |Price | Description
JH> ----------------------------|-----------|------|-------------------------
JH> Strike Commander            | 3.5       | $30    Best graphics flight-sim.
JH>                             |           | with sample Origin screen saver
JH>                             |           | that plays scenes from the game
JH>                             |           |      |
JH> Front Page Sports Football  | 3.5+update| $25  | Best football game, with
JH>                             |           |      | update disk
JH> Tetris(includes tetris TSR) | both      | $9   | tetris,strategy game
JH> Heart of China(256 color)   | 3.5       | $17  | good adventure game
JH> Kings Quest 5(256 color)    | 3.5       | $23  | Highly acclaimed adventure
JH> Simcity                     | both      | $19  | create,manage your city
JH> Lemmings                    | 5.25      | $15  | fun strategy game
JH> Action Sports soccer        | 3.5       | $15  | good soccer game
JH> Mike Ditka Ultimate football| 5.25      | $19  | 256 color football game
JH> Ultima 7:The Black Gate     | 3.5       | $23  | very good RPG game
JH> Wing Commander              | 3.5       | $15  | like X-wing, fly in space
JH> Star Control 2              | 3.5       | $25  | space RPG,adventure,action
JH> Shareware Extravaganza      | 4 CD-ROMS!| $29  | 3 gig of shareware
JH> Phoenix 4.0                 | CD-ROM    | $15  | NEW!! shareware cd-rom
JH> Americas Premier Shareware  | CD-ROM    | $15  | good shareware collection
JH> 7th Guest                   | 2 CD-ROMs | $29  | Great adventure,
JH>                             |           |      | puzzle GAME with
JH>                             |           |      | "The making of 7th Guest"
JH>                             |           |      | video.
JH>All shareware cd-roms have a wide variety of files, including GAMES, windows
JH>and dos programs,utils,os/2,clip art,communications, and much more!


JH>___
JH> X SPEED 1.30 [NR] X 2400 baud, wake me up when the d/l is complete

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From: ANTHONY FURGISON                       Number: 8670
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/12/93  9:08a
Subj: Hitachi CDROM's                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for some Hitachi roms that are in good shape for a reasonable
price. Please respond here or call my BBS - The Space Station 914-292-0670
FidoNet # 1:272/111. Will pay all COD charges but you must guarantee me that
they are in working order. I have bought 9 already and 2 did not work at all so
I will want to verify they work.

Thanks,
Tony Furgison

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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 8671
  To: JOE BURKE                                Date: 12/13/93  1:17a
Subj: Adult CD trade wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JB>I'm interested in trading ANIMATION FANTASIES rated-XXX. Premium
JB>adult computer animations CD.
JB>Will trade for XXX rated Gifs or other good CD.


Joe,
Will trade you Busty Babes 3,vol.1 for ANIMATION FANTASIES.  Let me know what
you think.
Greg

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From: R K                                    Number: 8672
  To: JAMES BLISS                              Date: 12/12/93  4:40p
Subj: CD-ROM FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

James, is the drive internal or external? I have a magnavox cdd 461
cdrom drive that i need to get rid of...would like to throw that in plus
whatever difference you think is right.  
My drive is an external drive that can stand as a music cd player by itself
[des'nt even need to be hooked up to the computer!], have
all the cables, card and installation software, is a bit slow, but
good enough for the home user. 
                If you migh be interested leave message. 
                                                       R K
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From: R K                                    Number: 8673
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/12/93  4:51p
Subj: $120.00 cdrom drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For Sale: 
        An external, Magnavox 461 CDD cd-rom drive. Comes with card, cables. Am
willing to trade for ENY Sony, Hitach, Nec, Panisonic, Pioneer, and IBM drive.
$120.00 includes shipping and
will pay for shippping on your drive if you trade. 
        Cdrom drive can also stand as a music cd player on itself! 
        Does'nt even need to be hooked up to computer! 
If interested leave message. 
           Thanks, 
                 R K
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From: R K                                    Number: 8674
  To: MATT MAHONEY                             Date: 12/12/93  4:57p
Subj: CDROMS and sound.                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well no you don't need sound cards...on the external ones enyway, not sure
'bout the internal. You just plug a set of speakers into
a port and listen to the music.
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From: R K                                    Number: 8675
  To: GREG MILLS                               Date: 12/12/93  5:08p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What do you need, the drives or the cd's? If you're looking for a drive I have
a external magnavox CDD 461 cdrom drive...willing to
sell for 120.00.....Interested, leave message.
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From: R K                                    Number: 8676
  To: BILL TURNER                              Date: 12/12/93  5:10p
Subj: Sony CDROM Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well I have a Magnavox cdd 461 external with card, cables...not
sure it's what your looking for. If interested leave message. 
asking 120.00.
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8677
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93 12:07p
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices12/12/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>ComputerHelp is Happy to Announce We Are Currently< 
>Offering EMS Professional Software's CRDOM Discs!!!< 
 
If you are PC-based or Windows-based and Have Liked the 
Shareware & Utility CDROM Discs on the Market, We Believe 
You Will Really See Added Value in These Discs!!!  "WE DO!!!!" 
 
EMS Has Changed Their Format Recently and Made Their Discs 
Much More User Friendly.  We Don't Want To Take Too Much 
Space Here, But the EMS 2-Disc Set is $59.95 + shipping. 
 
If You Are Curious About the Discs, We Have a SPECIAL For YOU!!! 
We Have Sampler Single Disks (that are 1 rev -- or about 
2 months -- old).  They are the discs only, without the indexes, 
COMPLETELY FUNCTIONAL AND WITH ALL THE DATA!!! 
 
They include utilities and programs covering:  ASM, C, C++, 
AutoCAD, Xbase, DOS, Games, Hardware Demos, HomePC, Jokes, 
Multimedia, Netware, ObjectVision, Quick Basic, Paradox, 
Small Business, TrueType Fonts, TurboPascal, Visual Basic, 
Windows, and a PC Products Database. 
 
Personally, this disc has been a real resource for us in our 
computer room.  (Previously, it was just the way they handled 
their indexing that bothered us.)  They have changed that in the 
Current versions.  Remember, the Full-Fledged current versions 
are Currently $59.95 from EMS; Our Sale Price is $49.95. 
THESE VERY SPECIAL SINGLE DISC SAMPLERS ARE ON SALE FOR $12, 
INCLUDING SHIPPING! 
 
There are about 150 of these Sampler Single Discs currently available. 
 
As always, If You are Not Happy With Any Product from Us, We 
Will Take it Back within 30-days of date of purchase.  Your only 
expense would be freight/shipping. 
 
"WE WANT YOU HAPPY AND TO COME BACK THE NEXT TIME YOU ARE IN THE MARKET!" 
 
Thanks, 
Richard Carter 
___----------------------      ------------------      -------------------- 
 
 
            Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM Disc's 
 
          from:     ComputerHelp 
                    PO Box 385041 
                    Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
               Ph:  (612) 890-4750, (800) 514-7071 
                    Fax:  (612) 894-9411 
 
(as of 12/09/93) 
          SIMTEL MSDOS               $13.00 
          CICA MS Windows            $13.00 
          Hobbes OS/2                $13.00 
          Aminet Amiga               $13.00 
          Garbo MSDOS/Mac            $13.00 
          Sprite OS                  $13.00 
          QRZ! Ham Radio             $13.00 
          ADA Programming            $18.50 
          GIGA Games                 $18.50 
          La Coleccion               $18.50 
          Nova for NeXTs             $18.50 
          Project Gutenberg          $18.50 
          Source Code                $18.50

          X11/GNU                    $18.50 
          Info-Mac                   $25.50 
          CUG Library                $23.50 
          Linux                      $23.50 
          Libris Britannia           $34.00 
          Space and Astronomy        $18.50 
 
                  ***SPECIAL***SPECIAL***SPECIAL*** 
     =>>> Order 3 at once and take an Extra $1 Off of Each <<<= 
        (Limited Time Offer!!! Print and enclose this ad with 
                your order.  Good through 12/31/93!!!!) 


Shipping:      1-3 discs in one order = $4.50, 4-10 discs in one 
order = $6.50. 
          (MN residents add 6.5% sales tax).

 
          All prices subject to change without notice. 
          "Yes Mildred, we do take personal cheques!" 
 
All orders by pre-payment, (you want cheap prices....); send to 
address above.  Call with any questions.  (Sorry, we don't accept 
credit cards:  they add to the 
    price and we want to be able to offer you the CHEAPEST PRICES 
   AVAILABLE.  "Thank You for Your Support!!!    -  Richard Carter 
                             ORDER FORM 
 
YES!  Please accept my order for: 
 
  Quantity          Item:         Price Each:   Extension: 
     : 
            SIMTEL MSDOS          $13.00 
            CICA MS Windows       $13.00 
            Hobbes OS/2           $13.00 
            Aminet Amiga          $13.00 
            Garbo MSDOS/Mac       $13.00 
            Sprite OS             $13.00 
            QRZ! Ham Radio        $13.00 
            ADA Programming       $18.50 
            GIGA Games            $18.50 
            La Coleccion          $18.50 
            Nova for NeXTs        $18.50

            Project Gutenberg     $18.50 
            Source Code           $18.50 
            X11/GNU               $18.50 
            Info-Mac              $25.50 
            CUG Library           $23.50 
            Linux                 $23.50 
            Libris Britannia      $34.00 
            Space and Astronomy   $18.50 
            EMS 1-Disc SAMPLER    $12.00 ** 
                                  SubTotal:     $ 
                                  TX (MN Only)  $ 
                                  Shipping      $ 
                                  TOTAL:        $ 
 
Shipping: $4.50 for 1-3 discs, $6.50 for 4-10 discs, Call for 
           quantities larger than 10 discs. 
           ** No Shipping Charges on the EMS Sampler! 
          If you have an existing FedEX acct and want to charge to 
           it,  "No Problem!" 
          We Do COD, but only with FedEX, and by Cashiers Cheque 
           (it's expensive, but on large orders it might be worth 
           looking at). 
 
Sales Tax:     MN Only!!  6.5% 
 
We DO Accept Cheques (Personal & Business held for 5 days to clear; 
     Money Orders & Cashiers Cheques ship same day as in stock). 
 
Call With Any Questions, "We Are Here to Serve Your Needs!" 
 
Please Ship TO: 
  Name: 
  Street Address: 
  City:                      State:         Zip: 
  My Home Phone is:  (      ) My Work Phone is:  (      ) 


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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8678
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93 12:07p
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices12/12/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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   (In case we have a question [or 2] regarding your order) 
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From: DAVE KALWISHKY                         Number: 8679
  To: LEO MULVIHILL                            Date: 12/07/93  9:29p
Subj: CD's for Sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LM> Compton's Multimedia Encyclopedia

How about $30?

     -=> Dave <=-     Mon  12-06-1993


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From: DAVE KALWISHKY                         Number: 8680
  To: PAUL SCHIFFERLI                          Date: 12/07/93  9:29p
Subj: Censorship                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PS> The latest issue of PC Magazine informs all readers that they will no
  > longer accept adds of an ADULT nature with Graphics.  I note that the

  > To all, why not let PC Mag know how you feel about the issue.

Considering that younger people read this magazine I think it GREAT!  I
myself own quite a few Adult CD's but PC Magazine is the LAST place I would
want to see them advertised, especially with graphics.

     -=> Dave <=-     Mon  12-06-1993


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From: TROY MORRISON                          Number: 8681
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93  8:42a
Subj: New CD-ROM                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

         The Complete Shareware Collection from Complete CD, Inc.

      o  Over 500 of the most up-to-date high quality games on
         CD-ROM.  Over 80% of the games play direcly from CD.
      o  Easy to use mouse-aware menu, fully indexed with
         meaningful descriptions of each game.
      o  ALL games run from the menu.  No more unzipping and
         returning to DOS to try a game out.  Entirely automated!
      o  The perfect Holiday gift!  Just in time for Christmas!
      o  No duplicates!  You don't get 5 copies of the same game!

     Here's just a few of the games included:

            Halloween Harry, Blake Stone 3-D, Wolfenstein 3-D,
            Duke Nukem I & II, Math Rescue, Commander Keen,
            Ken's Labyrinth,      ... and much more

All for just $29.95!   PLUS.....

      o  Over 100 useful applications, from spreadsheet and data-
         bases to system analysis utilities.
      o  The same easy-to-use, mouse-aware menu system, with all
         applications indexed for easy browsing.
      o  ALL applications include a large (up to several pages)
         description that can be read from the menu without
         exiting to DOS.
      o  Still the perfect Holiday gift, and still just in time
         for Christmas!

     Here's just a few of the applications included:

          PC-File Database, As-Easy-As Spreadsheet,
          Qmodem Terminal Program, HyperSpeed Utilities,
          Cookbooks, Graphics/Paint Programs, DOS Utilities,
            ..... and much more!

                      Just $29.95!
           Have your VISA or MASTERCARD ready,
            or send Check or Money order to:

                 Complete CD, Inc.
                 P.O. Box 112214
                 Campbell, CA  95011-2214

                 Or call 1-800-828-1200


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From: NICK LUDLOW                            Number: 8682
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/10/93  8:37p
Subj: Wanted <Info>                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a CD that has Deprotects,Cheats,Patches and what not!
I dont want a CD that has just one directory for them! If you can help 
thanks!

Nick Ludlow


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From: BILL WOOD                              Number: 8683
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93  1:50p
Subj: LOOM ON CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
 
LOOM ON CD................................$30.00 
 
 
		THIS IS A ONE TIME OFFER, GREAT DEAL!!!!!! 
		PRICE DOES INCLUDE SHIPPING AND HANDLING 
 
 
 
		BILL 
 
... All I need is a Wave and a board to surf it on. 
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.11 
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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8684
  To: RANDY HUNT                               Date: 12/09/93  3:23a
Subj: CD offerings                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific Randy Hunt postulated to Charlie about CD offerings...

 RH> Is there a catalogue you could send me? If so, I'll E-mail you my

        Randy, I try to keep my business very dynamic. Therefore, I
        don't do catalogs-- if I did, it would be outof date by the time
        I finished. If you have some or several titles in mind, let me
        know and I'll get your prices. Thanks,

                                              Charlie

... A friend is the present you give yourself....
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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8685
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/09/93 11:59a
Subj: Bible CD's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific Pat Rickerson postulated to All about Bible CD's Wanted...

 PR> Have a Minister here that is looking for any Cd's, do you have any he

        Pat,

        NightOwl v9 has more than 20 files with Bible in the
        description...and many more with related topics. Also, Phoenix
        3.0 has 60 (plus or minus) files that are religion related. I
        hope this helps.
                        Charlie


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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8686
  To: RON URBASSIK                             Date: 12/09/93 12:02p
Subj: NightOwl 10 $29 + $0 ship               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific Ron Urbassik postulated to All about NightOwl 10 $29 + $0 ship...

 RU> NIGHT OWL 10.0 CD-ROM, $29. 640+ mb, 5000+ 1993 files. Over 60%

        Ron, please, for your and your potential customers' sake, make
        sure this is the NEW version and not the one with the confirmed
        viruses. The filenames I am aware of are: SF2_UP.ZIP (or
        SF2-UP.ZIP) and SPORT21C.ZIP.
                                        Charlie


... Bachelor: One who's footloose and fiancŠ free.
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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8687
  To: LYN BORCHERT                             Date: 12/09/93 12:04p
Subj: New File Descriptions for NG CD-ROM Door Program  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific Lyn Borchert postulated to All about New File Descriptions for NG

 LB> We have just finished compiling the file descriptions for Jem Disc
 LB> under THE NEXT GENERATION CD-ROM DOOR program.  Anyone using Jem Disc

 LB> of work setting up Jem Disc under this door by either File Requesting
 LB> the Magic name CDMXJEM or by calling (602)326-2999 and downloading it

        I just wanted to say that this is *very* nice of you to offer
        your work to everyone else. I don't have that disc or door, but
        I think it's great that you'd do this.

                                                Charlie


... Violence is the last resort of the incompetent.
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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8688
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 12/09/93 12:13p
Subj: Big Sky Special                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific Jim Lambert postulated to All about Big Sky Special...

        Hi Jim,

        I have a couple of questions about these dicsc. I'm not trying
        to antagonize, simply understand.

 JL> *  All archives use Pkzip 2.04g maximum compression.

        BTW, this is great!

 JL> *  All files scanned with McAfee Associates SCAN 9.15 V104

        Why use such an old version? The current version is V109. I know
        they probably couldn't have used it, but how about V108 or V107?
        This older version may have left something out. ???? Curiosity.

 JL> *  All archives contain a FILE_ID.DIZ to identify them. This feature

        This is also a big help for a SysOp.

 JL> *  All files are True Date Stamped based on the largest file.

        Is this the way most discs date their files? If so, there are
        probably some problems with getting true dates.....not in the
        favor of the manufacturer. I have some programs that have larger
        doc files than .EXE's and some are upgraded versions with the
        older docs and a whatsnew type file. If this is a disc you make,
        this might be something to think about.

 JL> Big Sky Rom I  - The Downloader's Rom    $26.00

        Lastly, do you have SysOp pricing on the discs?
                                                        Charlie


... Baby Philosophy - If it stinks, change it.
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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8689
  To: CLINT MORTON                             Date: 12/11/93 10:10p
Subj: Cd Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific Clint Morton postulated to Charlie about Cd Rom...

 >         What kind of hardware are you trading? I'm looking for a 6+
 >         bay tower case and a simple VGA monitor.
 >         I have a CD I could trade <deal pending>.

 CM> I had to look up PROLIFIC???

        LOL! The first one I thought up was "The prolific postulator
        <name> pontificated to <name> about <subject>" I like that one,
        but it was too long. :-)

 CM> broken vga monitors, a 20 meg MFM, a 1.2meg floppy, 256k vga card,

        I traded the CD already, but I would be interested in a price or
        trade on your 1.2 floppy or the 256k video card. Please take a
        look at my "All Gotta Go" or "Still some left" msg.'s in this
        echo for a list of items I have. Thanks,
                                                Charlie


... RUSH: (R)adically (U)ptight (S)ecret (H)omophobe
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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8690
  To: BRUCE NUNNALLY                           Date: 12/11/93 10:12p
Subj: Learning to speak German by Hyperglot   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific Bruce Nunnally postulated to Charlie about Learning to speak Germa

 CJ>         Translate it! (German) for $79.00 and Globalink's

 BN> Thanks, but the HyperGlot Learn to Speak series teach you to speak the
 BN> language as opposed to translating. Bruce

        Oh. Well, I thought it might be worth a shot. Happy Holidays!

                                                        Charlie


... The Earth is our Mother.  Respect and love her.
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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8691
  To: STEWART GAY                              Date: 12/11/93 10:57p
Subj: Good deals                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific Stewart Gay postulated to Charlie about Good deals...

 CJ>
 CJ>Sony CDU561 (Int/SCSI II)..............$349.00
 CJ>
 CJ>Sony CDU31A (Int/AT-Bus)...............$199.00 <-- LOW price!

 SG> Have a question for you will both of these chain to a sony CDU 7205 ?

        I believe we spoke about this on thr phone.

 SG> I am running the CDU 7205 on RBBS BBS and would like to add two more
 SG> CD Rom's let me know if so any lower price for two?

        The price I gave you is as low as I can go. I did find a SCSI
        daisy chain cable for you. It's by NEC and the price is $25.00
        plus $3.50 shipping (orfree shipping with the drives). Let me
        know if I can help you with the drives and/or the cable. Charlie

... Charlie Jarman (910)654-4658 <voice> or (910)654-5593 <data>  
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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8692
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/11/93 10:17p
Subj: CD-ROM DIRECTORY ON CD!                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

The prolific Mike Shannon postulated to Charlie about CD-ROM DIRECTORY ON CD!..

 CJ>        Mike, I see most of the other vendors are allowing trades for
 CJ>        the infected NOv10 disc, but have seen nothing from you.

 MS> We have taken a few back in trade, but from the information I read
 MS> from Ray Herold at TCM, (he prepares the CD's for Night Owl's), they
 MS> prefer to have you send the CD directly to them for exchange.  The

        That works. I wasn't trying to badger you, I was wondering.

 CJ>        latent files and still sold the disc. I would hate to think
 CJ>        you'd do this. So, please tell me what's up.

 MS> I did sell some (like everyone else) before I knew the viruses existed
 MS> on the CD, but after the reports were confirmed, I only sold a few to
 MS> people who either were aware of the problem, or who I made aware of it.

        That's the way I thought you did business. Glad to hear it.

 MS> Quite frankly, I'm disgusted with the whole Night Owl scenario, with
 MS> the continual recuts, virus alerts, commercial files, on and on and
 MS> on......and have not been promoting the product.  Rumor has it that
 MS> Night Owl's is now facing a $600,000 (not $425,000) damage settlement,
 MS> and it, along with the virus problems will sink them.  Time will

        If you don't mind, and since it would be on topic in CD-ROM,
        please let us know more about this. Thanks for the reply.

                                                Charlie

... The more I learn, the more I have to learn.
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 8693
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 12/14/93  4:40p
Subj: College Girls                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KM>College Girls Movie disk for sale.
KM>94 Cinemania

   I have the following that I would consider trading for the above:

CD-ROMS for Sale

Q&A 4.0 from Symantec ..........................  $39
Tax-Prep 1993 ..................................  $15
CD-ROM Premier .................................  $14
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $15
PC Globe, PC USA and Automap ...................  $22
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $59
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $ 9
PC Sig Library 9th edition .....................  $11
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $16
Sneek Peeks from Sierra ........................  $13
Corel Art Show 3 with large Book ...............  $24
Phoenix-CD Version 3.0 .........................  $12
Chessmaster 3000 ...............................  $24

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 8694
  To: ANTON SHEVCHENKO                         Date: 12/14/93  4:44p
Subj: wanted                                  Refer: NONE
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AS>if you have any cd's for sale, drop me a note.


CD-ROMS for Sale

Q&A 4.0 from Symantec ..........................  $39
Tax-Prep 1993 ..................................  $15
CD-ROM Premier .................................  $14
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $15
PC Globe, PC USA   and Automap .................  $22
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $59
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $ 9
PC Sig Library 9th edition .....................  $11
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $16
Sneek Peeks from Sierra ........................  $13
Corel Art Show 3 with large Book ...............  $24
Phoenix-CD Version 3.0 .........................  $12
Chessmaster 3000 ...............................  $24

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Registered Symantec Q&A Consultant


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8695
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 12/14/93 11:24p
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices11/23/9                Refer: NONE
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RC>I would say so:  Like performing a turn-around of failing
RC>sales organization from, say, a best effort failing of
RC>$258,000 monthly sales (with a break-even of $603,000 per
RC>month) to a turn-around of $1,500,000+ monthly sales
RC>(at improved GPM), in 90 days.
RC>Followed by turn-around of sales org of major computer
RC>mfgr, followed by turn-around of Reseller, followed
RC>by structuring of telemarketing arm of software company.
RC>(Want to try puffing somemore?  I have much more......)

That's very impressive, but please exercise caution:  These wild-eyed and
frenzied backpatting episodes can sometimes result in multiple fractures to
the forearm.  Please consult a physician before continuing.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8696
  To: CARLOS AVELLANET                         Date: 12/14/93 11:24p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 10 VIRUS REPORT               Refer: NONE
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CA> MS> I've been hearing a lot of talk by various people recently,
CA> MS> concerning the Night Owl 10 virus situation, and it seems like a
CA> MS> recurring theme has been that Night Owl's wasn't responsible for the
CA> MS> viruses being on Night Owl 10, because the version of SCAN they were

CA>     Do you know if they are recalling or exchanging the infected disks?

You can send your virus-infected disc to them directly for replacement.
Address is:

             Night Owl Publisher
             1611 Falconer Stillwater Rd.
             Jamestown, NY  14701

Good luck,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8697
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93 11:24p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD PRICES 1/3                  Refer: NONE
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Mega Clipart..................24.50
 20th Century Sports (New!)....29.00    Microsoft Bookshelf 1992 MPC..35.00
 20th Century Video Almanac....29.00    Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..49.00
 7th Guest.....................39.00    Microsoft Cinemania 1993 MPC..55.00
 9-Digit Zip Code Guide (New!).32.00    Microsoft Cinemania 1994 MPC..59.00
 9000 Sounds (New!)............25.00    Microsoft Encarta 1994........98.00
 A.S.P. Shareware (New!).......22.00    Microsoft Golf MPC............48.50
 Action Traveler (New!)........29.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........49.00
 Adventures in Heaven (New!)...19.00    Middle East Diary.............35.00
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...25.00    MIDI Music Shop...............26.50
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........35.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50
 American Business Phonebk 91..17.00    Monarch Notes.................48.00
 American Business Phonebk 93..25.00    Monster Media 93 vol 2 (New!).29.00
 Aminet Amiga..................15.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Anecdotes 1...................14.50    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Anecdotes 2...................14.50    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....18.00
 Anecdotes 3...................14.50    Multimedia Magic Collection...28.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......19.00    National Geographic Mammals...24.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....22.00    National Parks................24.50
 Arizona Images................25.00    Nature Graphics (New!)........29.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Newsweek Interactive (New!)...26.50
 Audubon's Birds...............23.00    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Battle Chess..................25.00    Night Owl 8.0.................24.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........25.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Beyond the Wall of Stars......24.50    Night Owl Games...............27.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl Graphics............27.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    North American Fax Book.......32.50
 Britannica Family Choice......28.50    Oceans Below (New!)...........27.50
 Britannica Select Software....28.50    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Business Assistant............13.00    OS/2Box.......................25.00
 Business Master...............20.00    Our Solar System..............13.00
 C User's Group Library........29.00    PC Karaoke w/ Microphone......65.00
 Canadian Shareware............19.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....27.00
 Career Opportunities..........26.00    PC-SIG 12.....................19.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-SIG Windows (New!).........19.00
 CD Powerbox ($6 w/ any order).15.00    Pentomino.....................23.00
 CD Powerbox 2 (New!)..........29.00    Peter and the Wolf............25.00
 CD Winbox 1.01................24.00    Phoenix 4.0...................18.00
 CD-ROM of CD-ROMs ($9 w/ ord).29.00    Phoenix Phun & Games..........15.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Phonedisc USA.................69.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Pier 2........................24.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Pier 3 (In Stock!)............29.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Pier 2/3 2-Pak................49.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pinacotheca Multimedia........24.00
 Clipart Heaven................25.00    Pixel Garden..................34.00
 Clipart Warehouse (New!)......13.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    Playing w/ Language: English..24.50
 Companion for Windows (New!)..23.50    Playing w/ Language: French...24.50
 Companion for WordPerfect.....23.50    Playing w/ Language: German...24.50
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    Playing w/ Language: Japanese.24.50
 Composer Quest................33.00    Playing w/ Language: Spanish..24.50
 Compton's Interactive Ency....89.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0.............13.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....64.00    Precision Mapping.............68.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....64.00    Prescription Drugs............27.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8698
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93 11:24p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD PRICES 2/3                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Computer Reference Library....13.00    Profiles of Colleges..........29.50
 Conan the Cimmerian...........27.50    Project Gutenberg.............22.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....34.50    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak 4th Qtr..109.00
 Cookbook Heaven...............23.00    ProPhone 1993 Business........29.00
 CorelDraw 3.0.................79.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Cybergenic Ranger.............19.50    Publish-It 2.0................25.00
 Dagger of Amon Ra.............32.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........35.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Publisher's Paradise..........29.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Publisher's Paradise Pro......35.00
 Dare, Bluff, or Die (New!)....29.00    Publisher's Powerhouse (New!).29.00
 Day of the Tentacle...........44.50    Q&A 4.0.......................39.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Desert Storm..................33.50    Reader's Library..............20.50
 Desktop Bookshop..............21.50    Reel Clips....................25.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Reference Library ............24.50
 Dictionary of Living World....32.50    Return to Zork (New!).........50.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............33.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...37.00
 Dinosaurs!....................33.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
 Dr. Games.....................20.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
 Dr. Music.....................20.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
 Dr. Shareware.................20.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Dr. Windows...................20.00    Shareware 1993 vol 2..........20.00
 DTPro.........................26.50    Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......49.00
 Dune..........................39.00    Shareware Online 1............19.00
 Ecoquest......................27.50    Shareware Online 2............29.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Overload............13.00
 Electronic Cookbook...........29.00    Shareware Studio 2............23.00
 Electronic Home Library.......29.00    Shareware Studio 3............25.00
 Electronic Library of Art.....39.50    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...49.00
 European Monarchs.............35.00    Sights & Sounds...............22.50
 Family Doctor.................26.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Firearms Reference............24.00    Sleeping Beauty...............25.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    So Much Screenware............27.50
 Font Master 2.................26.00    So Much Shareware 2...........19.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Shareware 3...........25.00
 Fractunes (New!)..............30.00    So Much Space (New!)..........24.00
 Fresh Arte....................34.00    Software Vault 1..............19.00
 Funny (New!)..................33.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....19.00
 Game Arena....................13.00    Software Vault Gold (New!)....25.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Solar Heaven (New!)...........23.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Sound Effects Library.........19.00
 Games Collection (New!).......26.00    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Gameware Collection...........24.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.00    Soundware Collection..........24.00
 Gardening (New!)..............13.00    SoundWAV......................25.00
 GIF Galaxy (New!).............24.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 GIF's Galore 9/93.............16.50    Space & Astronomy (New!)......27.00
 Giga Games....................23.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Global Explorer...............85.00    Space Quest IV................19.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Space Shuttle (New!)..........25.00
 Grammy Awards.................36.00    Space Time and Art (New!).....34.50
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Sporting News.................24.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Stellar 7.....................19.50
 Great Wonders of the World....42.00    Straight from Heaven (New!)...19.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
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 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8699
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93 11:25p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD PRICES 3/3                  Refer: NONE
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 Grolier's MPC Ency 6.0 (New!).45.00    Street Atlas USA v2...........94.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...23.00    STW Illustrated Encyclopedia..34.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 93...29.00    STW Multimedia Encyclopedia...44.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............25.00    STW MPC Encyclopedia..........44.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Super Games For Windows.......10.00
 Ham Radio/Scanner Companion...23.50    Talking Jungle Safari.........33.00
 Hamware 1993..................23.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........33.00
 Health & Medical Directory....27.50    Tech Arsenal (New!)...........21.50
 Hobbes OS/2 10/93.............16.00    Technotools...................13.00
 Hollywood the Bizarre (New!)..39.50    Tempra Access Photo Software..19.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......35.00
 Home Designer (New!)..........29.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Home/Office Legal Guide.......13.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Horror & Sci-Fi Films (New!)..39.50    Timetable of Business/Politic.26.00
 House of Games................18.50    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Images of NASA (New!).........25.00    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00    Total Baseball 1992...........24.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Total Baseball 1993 (New!)....28.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Total Heart by Mayo Clinic....49.00
 Interactive Story Time 3......29.00    Trump Castle..................28.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    U.S./World Atlas MPC..........25.00
 Int'l Graphics Library........27.50    U.S. Atlas MPC................23.00
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....29.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Jets & Props..................28.50    U.S. History..................29.00
 Jewel Cases....................1.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Jokes & Pranks................13.00    U.S. Wars: Civil War..........34.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............39.00    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............34.00
 King's Quest V................20.00    U.S. Wars: WWII...............34.00
 King's Quest VI (Retail Box)..39.00    USA Today: The 90's (New!)....36.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    VGA Spectrum 1................13.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........19.00    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 La Coleccion (Spanish S/W)....22.00    Video Movie Guide (New!)......28.50
 Lan Master....................25.00    Wave Pool (New!)..............19.00
 Languages of the World........37.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Learning Adventure............13.00    Wildcat Gold..................20.50
 Learning Heaven (New!)........19.00    Win Platinum..................24.00
 Library of the Future #1......39.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Libris Britannia..............34.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 Linux.........................27.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Loom..........................19.00    Windows Collection (New!).....26.00
 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...29.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Mac Shareware.................19.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 MacMillan Dictionary..........29.00    World Atlas MPC...............23.00
 Macromind Action..............35.00    World Fact Book M/M...........23.00
 Mad Dog McCree (New!).........39.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    World of Trains...............34.00
 Majestic Places...............38.50    World Traveler................13.00
 Mantis........................24.00    World View....................24.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..25.00    World Vision 3-Pak............39.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    Wrath of the Demon............29.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............26.00    X11R5/GNU.....................24.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8700
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93 11:25p
Subj: SOFT ADULT CD'S                         Refer: NONE
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 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
 Amateur Models................34.00    Girls of Risque (New!)........35.00
 American Girls (New!).........34.00    High Volume Nudes.............36.50
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......29.00    L.A. Strippers (Movie)........49.00
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......48.00    Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00
 Digital Dreams 1..............28.00    Photo Gallery.................34.00
 Digital Dreams 2 (New!).......29.00    Southern Beauties.............33.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Girls of Mardi Gras (New!)....43.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

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From: BRIAN ELFERT                           Number: 8701
  To: JOHN LITTLE                              Date: 12/15/93  7:01a
Subj: CD-ROM drives                           Refer: NONE
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-> Would you want to trade 4 of these drives for a DigiBOARD EISA C/X 64
-> serial board (with a 16 port connector - the card supports 4 such con
-> boxes)?  Drivers for DOS/WinNT/OS2 2.1/UNIX/Novell - sells for about
-> retail (list is $2200).

Sorry, must have cash or a Pioneer DR-604x.

Brian


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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 8702
  To: DOUG HUNKELE                             Date: 12/15/93  6:45p
Subj: Cd rom drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PMFBI, but somebody has to beat back at these vicious rumors! You recently
asked:

DH>Boris,

DH>After our talk the other day can you RECOMMEND a CD ROM player to
DH>replace the  mitsumi drives I have...it doesn't have to be fast
DH>as the mitsumi's are fast  enough for my bbs use.  To refresh
DH>your memory, i need a drive that can read  the HOBBES OS/2 CD
DH>and others that are filled above 540Meg (limit of  Mitsumi's)....

I don't know where people get such fanciful ideas, but there is absolutely NO
truth to any such limits at all!  The Mitsumi LU002S I recently sold, and the
Mitsumi LU005S I now have, each have read every file on every CD-ROM in the
place, (about 50 or so), including especially the Hobbes discs I've fed them. 
Even Gigabyte Gold was no challenge for either of them.

I've been places where a system would choke and puke on various discs, but the
brand of drive had little to do with it; more often than not, it was inadequate
memory available to deal with the directories.

Think for just a moment: if the Mitsumi brand of drives was all that bad, would
IBM support them so strongly that they would automagically install the OS/2 2.1
GA directly from CD-ROM?  Mine did, and many others have.

You're quite welcome to buy as many drives as you wish, and to have whatever
opinions you want.  But please stop spreading this untrue rumor.  I grant that
the Mitsumi is not the Rolls Royce of the CD-ROM world.  But it is not some
form of impotent leper either.

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

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From: TONY PSALTIS                           Number: 8703
  To: CLINT MORTON                             Date: 12/15/93  8:42p
Subj: Re: cd rom                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CM>What is the price for the sony drive?

Sorry, but the Sony drive was sold for $150.00.  Thanx for the reply though!

L8r...
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From: FRED AYERS                             Number: 8704
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 12/13/93  8:02p
Subj: Specials for X-MAS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>*                   and its SCSI 2 !                    *
MB>*                      $ 335.00                         *
MB>*   Philips CM-206/10 - Internal, 325msec, 300 Kbsec    *
MB>*    transfer rate, 64K buffer, MS Photo CD too!        *
MB>*                   AT BUS complete!                    *
MB>*                      $ 253.00                         *
MB>*                                                       *
MB>*                Voice (517) 892-5518                   *
MB>*                FAX   (517) 892-5965                   *


Matt....do you have any refurbs or used SCSI drives?  Interested in
something to replace the Mitsumi's I now have...


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 8705
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 12/14/93  9:05p
Subj: Censorship                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Hayden!

Saturday December 11 1993 14:31, Hayden Bradshaw wrote to Paul Schifferli:

 HB> Undoubtedly, PC Mag feels a similar duty.  Whether it's "politically
 HB> correct" or not has no bearing on the matter, because as a business
 HB> owned by people answerable to the "powers that be", they have a right to
 HB> decide what they print, how they print it, and when they print it.  You
 HB> and I don't have to buy it if we don't want.  But, say, aren't you
 HB> dictating to people what they should and shouldn't buy by asking them to
 HB> basically boycott this publication because you feel "our" freedoms have
 HB> been stepped upon?

You make an excellent point.  No matter what, "someone" will get stepped on.

Later,

Dave

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From: MICHAEL PHUONG                         Number: 8706
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93 10:24p
Subj: CDROM DRIVE WANTED                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for external CD-ROM drive with interface card, 400ms or
under and MPC Standard.  I am willing to spend about $ 150.00 or less
for it.  If you have a new or use CD-ROM drive for sale, please reply
configuration or call me at (800) 297-6905.

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From: TOM PAPAS                              Number: 8707
  To: PATRICK SHEN                             Date: 12/14/93  4:35a
Subj: Cd-rom for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Would you take $31.00 including shipping for 7th Guest ? I've seen it on
internet for $30.00.  LEt me know Ok.  Thanks!

Tom

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From: JONATHAN ROLFE                         Number: 8708
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 12/15/93 12:14p
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the blazing fast delivery of the Phillips 206A. I think the
label was still damp when I got it.  Nice unit!  :-)

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 8709
  To: TODD HUGHES                              Date: 12/15/93  3:49p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom wanted badly                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 12 Dec 93  16:29:00, I heard Todd Hughes shout to All:

TH>         I would really appreciate from anyone, some prices on new or used
TH> cd-rom drives for under $170.00.  I would probably have the money by christ
TH> or a little later.   I can be reached at 637-0323 or if thiers no answer ca
TH> 637-0523, Or leave a message on micro f/x bbs at 392-2210 (mon-fri) 8pm-11p
TH> Ask for Todd Hughes

Well Todd, I can get you a Sony CD-Rom Drive, For 179.00 Brand New, Comes with
the card, Etc, and Install Software.  So for $179.00 plus shipping you'll have
a Brand New One... ??

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From: STEVE KOPP                             Number: 8710
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/15/93  9:37a
Subj: Re: CD's for sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

by the way could you send me a catalog of the cd's are for sale to:

steve kopp
143 southview dr.
marion, ia 52302

thanks
steve


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From: SCOTT INNES                            Number: 8711
  To: JEFF HUBERT                              Date: 12/14/93 10:59p
Subj: games and cd-roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 8712
  To: JOHN LITTLE                              Date: 12/16/93 12:36a
Subj: CD  Price List                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi, John.  Noticed your area code is (905).  If you would like to
receive our current price list, I can put one in the mail to you.  Just
leave me your mailing address.  HRB Computer Services, Holland Landing,
Ontario offers nearly 800 titles, accepts VISA and M/C, has an 800# for
ordering, and a lot more!

For catalogue call me at (905) 830-1615.  It's also on CRS Online (416)
213-6002 as file: HRBCD8A.ZIP .

Regards,

Hayden Bradshaw
HRB Computer Services
14 Hollis Crescent
Holland Landing, Ontario
L9N 1E7
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From: ROBIN HARDISON                         Number: 8713
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/12/93  4:52p
Subj: Forbidden Subjects                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

Does anyone have the Forbidden Subjects CD?  If so, how much?
Thanks.

Robin

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From: CJ JASKIEWICZ                          Number: 8714
  To: TERRY HAMEL                              Date: 12/16/93  2:18a
Subj: WANTED: Corel Draw v3                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TH>I'm looking for Corel Draw v3 with all manuals and CD-ROM.  Please
TH>respond if you're looking to sell.

Terry, I do have a CD disc version 3.0 of Corel Draw for Sale, but the
only thing I have is the CD itself no books or manuals, I am asking
70.00 or best offer, If your interested make me an offer and I'll get
back to ya. I bought this from a friend a while ago and its been just
sittin on the shelf. Let me know what you decide. Thanks, C.J.


******HAPPY HOLIDAYS******

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From: CJ JASKIEWICZ                          Number: 8715
  To: JEFF DANNER                              Date: 12/16/93  2:18a
Subj: CD-ROM Shareware                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JD>I am currently running a BBS at Longview Community College.  We are
JD>considering adding a CD-ROM.  However I have only seen one CD that had
JD>shareware on it.  I anyone out there knows where I can get shareware on CD
JD>please leave me a message.   Thank You.

Jeff, I have a cd titled So Much Shareware vol. #1 I am asking 17.00 or
best offer plus shipping. If interested leave me a message and i'll get
back to ya, It has various gif's, games, windows progs, etc. on it. Let
me know what you decide. Thanks, C.J.


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From: JOHN SITE                              Number: 8716
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 12/14/93  8:41p
Subj: Amateur Models for trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello, 
would you be intereted in selling the Cd?
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From: DANNY TONG                             Number: 8717
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93  6:53p
Subj: News: cd-rom ring busted                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Edited from a 12/10/93 newswire:

Federal officials have announced the first software piracy case involving
counterfeit CD-ROM, programs. Authorities dismantled C-88 International Corp of
Fremont, CA for importing bootlegged discs from Hong Kong and packaging them
with personal computers.

There were about 900 counterfeit CD-ROM discs and 18,000 software manuals. The
counterfeit discs included popular games, encyclopedia and desk reference
titles from Groliers Inc, The Software Toolworks, and Lucasfilm Games. They
were to be sold as if they had been distributed by The Software Toolworks. Some
of the discs were defective, the packaging was shoddy and the packages on some
of the products were misspelled.

Computer software piracy has been a growing problem in recent years. Some
estimates put the losses to American software producers at $1B annually. [END]
Hope nobody is selling any of those fake CD-ROM software here.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 8718
  To: DENNIS HENDERSON                         Date: 12/15/93 12:18p
Subj: BUSTY BABES VOLUME II                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Dennis Henderson to Lee Noga <=-

 DH> @MSGID: 1:343/92 8609265A
 LN>>Geesh, how good could some gal at 37 be ?

 DH> My wife is 41 and will make you stammer, stutter and drool all over
 DH> yourself.  Don't be so quick to generalize based on age alone....older
 DH> frequently IS better.  An experienced self-confident WOMAN beats a
 DH> nervous giggly GIRL hands down!  But we stray from the topic....

You are so-o-o-o-o right! My wife's 52 and I can *HONESTLY* say the same 
about her. In fact, at the recent company Christmas party, she had some 
of the younger males (mid-20's) from the office hitting on her! Made me 
grin from ear to ear!!
... deny thy father and forget thy tagline.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 8719
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/15/93 12:18p
Subj: ADULT CD FOR SALE/TRADE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a copy of the adult CD "T&A to the Maxx" for sale/trade. I'll 
take $15 (shipped) or trade even for another adult GIF CD I don't have.
If interested, call me @ (713) 488-0065 between 6-9 p.m. CST. 
... On the subject of SEX: I'm in favor of it.
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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 8720
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/15/93 12:18p
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New Release        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

************ GRAPHICAL IMAGES OF FLORIDA, INC. *************

                          Presents

******************** BODACIOUS BEAUTIES ********************

    Available From Your Distributor By January 15, 1994

       A FULLY COMMERCIAL -- FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC

        More Than 80 Well Known BODACIOUS BEAUTIES
          Over 2,000 Hi-Res GIFs at 1024x768x256
                    Over 650 Megabytes
                 From Original 35mm Slides
                     New GUI Interface
                 Installs Quickly & Easily
                  Extremely User Friendly
                 Mouse Support & Popup Help
                Multiple Directory Slide Show

                          RATED - X

******************* FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!! *****************
****** FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS *****
**************** RATES AVAILBALE UPON REQUEST **************
                    TELEPHONE 407-831-3011  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 8721
  To: GARY COLMAN                              Date: 12/11/93  8:05p
Subj: R rated, G rated, etc..                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <12-06-93 12:30> Gary Colman wrote:

GC>> Could someone please explain to me, the different USA methods
GC>> of categorising pictures, eg 'R' rated, 'G' rated, etc..

G--Swimsuit, lingerie (non-nude)

R--Risque, topless etc.

X--Beaver shots

XX--Full Genitalia lip shots, leg spreads etc

XXX--Penetration


Quick and dirty summary--

Hope this helps.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 8722
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 12/13/93  2:34p
Subj: Re: Women On Wheels                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <12-11-93 05:52> Randy Neuner wrote:

RN>> Well now here's a good one.  Do you sell discs or are
RN>> you a vendor?  I don't really know.  Anyway, if you are, better save
RN>> one
RN>> for me, I love a hot motorcycle, hehe.   What's it gonna sell for?

Well, besides a publisher we do retail our products as well, but we don't
compete against our distribs in this echo (PCJ, Boris or StarVector). They are
very competitive for pricing, and Im sure they will sell the disc's as
reasonable as all the others--This disc will be a real treat for those that
like the combo of 'Women' and 'Harleys" :))))

Thanks for asking !!

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 8723
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 12/13/93  2:41p
Subj: Re: Blaine Richard                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <12-10-93 06:24> Randy Neuner wrote:

RN>> Well once again, he promised to send a disc for the one I sent him.
RN>> Three times, once reg mail, once UPS 2 day, once 2 day FEDEX.
RN>> Nothing.
RN>> The disc I sent him was an adult disc and he was to send me an adult
RN>> one
RN>> back.  It's been so long I forgot the name.  He said he would
RN>> autograph
RN>> it for me as he was the producer (author?) of it.

Was it 'Southern Beauties', "Ecstasy", "Busty Babes Vol I"--It can only be one
of those three--Do you have BB V II, if not I will send you one, or I will send
you one of the grassroot disc's from another publisher, that I was given
courtesy copies of, and its just hanging around the file cabinets-

This is something I want to do--Let me do it...ever see a woman have a temper
tantrum when they were told 'NO' <grin>...

Name the one you were expecting, and I will send it to you, and I will not take
'No' for an answer ! Which one were you promised ?????????????

'Tis the season, Babe--.......I'm waiting for an answer !

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 8724
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 12/15/93  4:34p
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bob, hope all is well. We will have a disc shipped next day
air from the pressing plant for your review.  Have a happy
holidays.
David.

************ GRAPHICAL IMAGES OF FLORIDA, INC. *************

                          Presents

******************** BODACIOUS BEAUTIES ********************

    Available From Your Distributor By January 15, 1994

       A FULLY COMMERCIAL -- FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC

        More Than 80 Well Known BODACIOUS BEAUTIES
          Over 2,000 Hi-Res GIFs at 1024x768x256
                    Over 650 Megabytes
                 From Original 35mm Slides
                     New GUI Interface
                 Installs Quickly & Easily
                  Extremely User Friendly
                 Mouse Support & Popup Help
                Multiple Directory Slide Show

                          RATED - X

******************* FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!! *****************
****** FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS *****
**************** RATES AVAILBALE UPON REQUEST **************
                    TELEPHONE 407-831-3011  
 
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From: DAVID MANZ                             Number: 8725
  To: CHRIS CO                                 Date: 12/15/93  8:07p
Subj: CD-ROM drive prices!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Hi my real name is chris coccimiglio I would like to
 > know do you have something with space for a files base
 > and its
 > cheap because I'm going to be running a bbs but I need
 > a CD-ROmM
 > hope its not exspesive because I'm 11 and it not likly
 > that I'll get
 > 200.00$ or more say in the range of  1$ to 180.00$
 > because if someone
 > sees me with the money they'll say who'd you get that
 > from but i make my money by doing something like
 > putting garbage out 5.00 a Day!
 > well gotta go if you can can you get it exstremly
 > cheap the cheapest one you could find but make sure it
 > works and can fit alot of files about 500 files about
 > 200 bytes
 > thanks bye                     or more!
 > --- FastEcho 1.30/g
 >  * Origin: Batteries Not Included! Sault Ste. Marie
 > (705)759-4885 (1:222/90)

I am a little confused hear Chris, are you looking for The drive or the CD's ?
I don't sell CD's but I do sell the CD-ROM drives, all kinds and all prices.
You can netmail me at 1:363/227@fido or call my bbs and leave a message. The
BBS # is 407-469-2414 and I may be able to get you a Mitsumi single spin CD-ROM
( 350ms ) for around 180.00 (you pay S&H).. Let me know...
David Manz
Precision Computer & Electronics
P.O.Box 560373
Montverde, FL. 34756-0373

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From: TOBIRO MCMURTRY                        Number: 8726
  To: KEI LAU                                  Date: 12/15/93 10:59a
Subj: Re: Buying a CD-ROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 KL> Well, it depends on your application and how deep your pocket is.
 KL> If the sole purpose is to bring software update online, you should
 KL> buy the least expensive drive .  If you want to run multimedia and
 KL> are not limited in budget, get a NEC Multispin 3X drive with an
 KL> Adaptec bus mastering host adapter (model depends on you
 KL> motherboard bus).  In between, the priority of features are:
 KL> (1) 64K cache minimum, 256K perferred.  This is the most important
 KL> feature to get smoothly video clip runs.
 KL> (2) 300 ms seek time minimum, 200 ms perferred.  This gives you
 KL> fast access to data.  Double spin/transfer rate does not seem to
 KL> have a strong impact on most operations.
 KL> (3) Caddy based drive.  You are unlikely to have more than one
 KL> dirve or use only one CD-ROM.  Caddy allows safe handling of
 KL> the CD for fast switching.  Motor tray drives are usually much
 KL> cheaper, but they cut corners in more than one way.
 KL> (4) SCSI bus.  Proprietry controllers are more likely to lose
 KL> support in the future.
 KL> (5) Dual or triple spin is the wave of the future, but current
 KL> software does not show much difference in performance.  They are
 KL> not a requirement, but there is no reason not to get a dual or
 KL> triple spin drive unless there is a large cost difference.


Wow, I knew nothing about CD rom. I want to get one soon,
but was advised to wait until the prices went down - now that the
new 3x speed drives are out. So, cache is really important?
How much does cache size effect prices? Are most manufactuers
offering a wide range of cache sizes? 256k is the max?
What I got from your message was that you can get flawless
video from a single speed drive with a big cache... correct?
What are the benifits of a 2x or 3x drive? Thanks for your
time.

                    Tobiro McMurtry

... "What?!? This isn't the Files section?!?"
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 8727
  To: ELDON WAKEFIELD                          Date: 12/15/93 11:06p
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Eldon!

Monday December 13 1993, Eldon Wakefield writes to Pat Rickerson:

 EW> Pat if you want them for 40.00 you can have them, The MegaRom 2 was sold
 EW> but I will trow in another one of equal value plus better Eldon -+- TBBS
 EW> v2.1/NM
 EW>  + Origin: The Country Store - Columbus, Ga.  (1:3613/11)

OK, for got your address please send it, thanks

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 8728
  To: JEFF HUBERT                              Date: 12/15/93 11:07p
Subj: games and cd-roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Jeff!

Wednesday December 08 1993, Jeff Hubert writes to Pat Rickerson:

 JH> I still have Phoenix 4.0 cd-rom, but I sold the others. I can send C.O.D
 JH> but that costs reg. shipping plus $4 c.o.d cost. Based on where you live
 JH> the total cost with C.O.D would be $22 or probably $18 if you send me a
 JH> check first. Do you still want me to send it to you? thanks for replying.

Already got it, but thanks
Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 8729
  To: CHARLIE JARMAN                           Date: 12/15/93 11:31p
Subj: Bible CD's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Charlie!

09 Dec 93 11:59, Charlie Jarman wrote to Pat Rickerson:

 CJ> The prolific Pat Rickerson postulated to All about Bible CD's Wanted...

 PR>> Have a Minister here that is looking for any Cd's, do you have any he

 CJ>         Pat,

 CJ>         NightOwl v9 has more than 20 files with Bible in the
 CJ>         description...and many more with related topics. Also, Phoenix
 CJ>         3.0 has 60 (plus or minus) files that are religion related. I
 CJ>         hope this helps.
 CJ>                         Charlie

Thanks will check that out.
Pat

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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8730
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/15/93  3:55p
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices12/16/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>ComputerHelp is Happy to Announce We Are Currently< 
>Offering EMS Professional Software's CRDOM Discs!!!< 
 
If you are PC-based or Windows-based and Have Liked the 
Shareware & Utility CDROM Discs on the Market, We Believe 
You Will Really See Added Value in These Discs!!!  "WE DO!!!!" 
 
EMS Has Changed Their Format Recently and Made Their Discs 
Much More User Friendly.  We Don't Want To Take Too Much 
Space Here, But the EMS 2-Disc Set is $59.95 + shipping. 
 
If You Are Curious About the Discs, We Have a SPECIAL For YOU!!! 
We Have Sampler Single Disks (that are 1 rev -- or about 
2 months -- old).  They are the discs only, without the indexes, 
COMPLETELY FUNCTIONAL AND WITH ALL THE DATA!!! 
 
They include utilities and programs covering:  ASM, C, C++, 
AutoCAD, Xbase, DOS, Games, Hardware Demos, HomePC, Jokes, 
Multimedia, Netware, ObjectVision, Quick Basic, Paradox, 
Small Business, TrueType Fonts, TurboPascal, Visual Basic, 
Windows, and a PC Products Database. 
 
Personally, this disc has been a real resource for us in our 
computer room.  (Previously, it was just the way they handled 
their indexing that bothered us.)  They have changed that in the 
Current versions.  Remember, the Full-Fledged current versions 
are Currently $59.95 from EMS; Our Sale Price is $49.95. 
THESE VERY SPECIAL SINGLE DISC SAMPLERS ARE ON SALE FOR $12, 
INCLUDING SHIPPING! 
 
There are about 150 of these Sampler Single Discs currently available. 
 
As always, If You are Not Happy With Any Product from Us, We 
Will Take it Back within 30-days of date of purchase.  Your only 
expense would be freight/shipping. 
 
"WE WANT YOU HAPPY AND TO COME BACK THE NEXT TIME YOU ARE IN THE MARKET!" 
 
Thanks, 
Richard Carter 
___----------------------      ------------------      -------------------- 
 
 
            Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM Disc's 
 
          from:     ComputerHelp 
                    PO Box 385041 
                    Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
               Ph:  (612) 890-4750, (800) 514-7071 
                    Fax:  (612) 894-9411 
 
(as of 12/09/93) 
          SIMTEL MSDOS               $13.00 
          CICA MS Windows            $13.00 
          Hobbes OS/2                $13.00 
          Aminet Amiga               $13.00 
          Garbo MSDOS/Mac            $13.00 
          Sprite OS                  $13.00 
          QRZ! Ham Radio             $13.00 
          ADA Programming            $18.50 
          GIGA Games                 $18.50 
          La Coleccion               $18.50 
          Nova for NeXTs             $18.50 
          Project Gutenberg          $18.50 
          Source Code                $18.50

          X11/GNU                    $18.50 
          Info-Mac                   $25.50 
          CUG Library                $23.50 
          Linux                      $23.50 
          Libris Britannia           $34.00 
          Space and Astronomy        $18.50 
 
                  ***SPECIAL***SPECIAL***SPECIAL*** 
     =>>> Order 3 at once and take an Extra $1 Off of Each <<<= 
        (Limited Time Offer!!! Print and enclose this ad with 
                your order.  Good through 12/31/93!!!!) 


Shipping:      1-3 discs in one order = $4.50, 4-10 discs in one 
order = $6.50. 
          (MN residents add 6.5% sales tax).

 
          All prices subject to change without notice. 
          "Yes Mildred, we do take personal cheques!" 
 
All orders by pre-payment, (you want cheap prices....); send to 
address above.  Call with any questions.  (Sorry, we don't accept 
credit cards:  they add to the 
    price and we want to be able to offer you the CHEAPEST PRICES 
   AVAILABLE.  "Thank You for Your Support!!!    -  Richard Carter 
                             ORDER FORM 
 
YES!  Please accept my order for: 
 
  Quantity          Item:         Price Each:   Extension: 
     : 
            SIMTEL MSDOS          $13.00 
            CICA MS Windows       $13.00 
            Hobbes OS/2           $13.00 
            Aminet Amiga          $13.00 
            Garbo MSDOS/Mac       $13.00 
            Sprite OS             $13.00 
            QRZ! Ham Radio        $13.00 
            ADA Programming       $18.50 
            GIGA Games            $18.50 
            La Coleccion          $18.50 
            Nova for NeXTs        $18.50

            Project Gutenberg     $18.50 
            Source Code           $18.50 
            X11/GNU               $18.50 
            Info-Mac              $25.50 
            CUG Library           $23.50 
            Linux                 $23.50 
            Libris Britannia      $34.00 
            Space and Astronomy   $18.50 
            EMS 1-Disc SAMPLER    $12.00 ** 
                                  SubTotal:     $ 
                                  TX (MN Only)  $ 
                                  Shipping      $ 
                                  TOTAL:        $ 
 
Shipping: $4.50 for 1-3 discs, $6.50 for 4-10 discs, Call for 
           quantities larger than 10 discs. 
           ** No Shipping Charges on the EMS Sampler! 
          If you have an existing FedEX acct and want to charge to 
           it,  "No Problem!" 
          We Do COD, but only with FedEX, and by Cashiers Cheque 
           (it's expensive, but on large orders it might be worth 
           looking at). 
 
Sales Tax:     MN Only!!  6.5% 
 
We DO Accept Cheques (Personal & Business held for 5 days to clear; 
     Money Orders & Cashiers Cheques ship same day as in stock). 
 
Call With Any Questions, "We Are Here to Serve Your Needs!" 
 
Please Ship TO: 
  Name: 
  Street Address: 
  City:                      State:         Zip: 
  My Home Phone is:  (      ) My Work Phone is:  (      ) 


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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8731
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/15/93  3:55p
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices12/16/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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   (In case we have a question [or 2] regarding your order) 
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8732
  To: TRANE FRANCKS                            Date: 12/15/93  4:50p
Subj: Garbo CDROM Disc                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We carry the Garbo CDROM Disc from Walnut Creek for $13 + $4.50 
shipping. 
ComputerHelp 
PO Box 385041 
Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
(612) 890-4750 
 
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8733
  To: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR.                   Date: 12/15/93  4:53p
Subj: Walnut Creek Hobbes OS/2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We carry the Walnut Creek Hobbes OS/2 CDROM Disc 
for $13 + $4.50 shipping.  The new version just 
came out and we have it "In Stock!" 
ComputerHelp 
PO Box 385041 
Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
(612) 890-4750 
(We accept personnal and company cheques) 
 
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8734
  To: JEFF DANNER                              Date: 12/15/93  4:58p
Subj: Shareware                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jeff, 
Please see our daily posting, "CDROM Disc Prices(Date)" 
It lists many Shareware and Public Domain software 
titles. 
Thanks, 
Richard Carter 
ComputerHelp 
PO Box 385041 
Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
(612) 890-4750 
 
(Give us a call with an address, and we can mail you an order form) 
 
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 8735
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/15/93 10:20a
Subj: * CD-ROM Disks FOR SALE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROMS for Sale

Q&A 4.0 from Symantec ..........................  $39
Tax-Prep 1993 ..................................  $12
CD-ROM Premier .................................  $12
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $14
PC Globe, PC USA and Automap ...................  $22
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $59
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $ 9
PC Sig Library 9th edition .....................  $11
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $14
Sneek Peeks from Sierra ........................  $13
Corel Art Show 3 with large Book ...............  $22
Phoenix-CD Version 3.0 .........................  $12
Chessmaster 3000 ...............................  $24
Groliers Encyclopedia ..........................  $33

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Registered Symantec Q&A Consultant


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 8736
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 12/17/93  5:58a
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New                Refer: 12190
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> ******************* FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!! *****************
-> ****** FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS *****
-> **************** RATES AVAILBALE UPON REQUEST **************
->                     TELEPHONE 407-831-3011

What's your per-node licensing fee?

tim
moderator
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8737
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/12/93  2:26p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I just got the Gifs galore and it is chestnut.
 

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From: JEFF WEISS                             Number: 8738
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93  9:35a
Subj: *~Custom CD-ROMs                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We put YOUR DATA on a writable CD-ROM.
                               ------
 
We will transfer up to 650 megabytes of data from your tape/removable
media to one CD-ROM.
 
 o     FULL CONFIDENTIALITY is assured - we don't inspect your data.
 o     Quick turn around time is provided - same day service available.
 o     Data integrity is guaranteed - 30 day money back warranty.
 o     Guaranteed to work on any standard CD-ROM drive.

 - Free up space on expensive magnetic media.
 - Archive your software collection.
 - Consolidate shareware/GIF CDs to eliminate dupes/old versions.
 - Make copies for your friends.
 - Software development alternative to "glass master"
   - Save hundreds of $$$,
   - Eliminate days of delay.

CALL for a FREE writable CD-ROM primer.
 
           Eternal ARCHIVE Solutions, Inc.
                650 Cooke Street, #3
                    P.O. Box 4402
              Waterbury, CT 06704-0402
                 (203) 759-0574 voice
                 (203) 759-0553  fax

... The tagline from our lawyers:
Customer is responsible for compliance with all licenses, laws, and
  regulations regarding his software or data.  EASI shall not be held
  liable for customer's failure to comply with these requirements.

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From: JEFF WEISS                             Number: 8739
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93 12:00a
Subj: *~ Mitsumi 2X CD-ROM                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mitsumi FX001D double-speed internal CD-ROM  ---  $229
  300 - 350 KBPS sustained throughput
  280 - 250 ms average access time
  AT bus interface card included
  All necessary signal and audio cables included
  All necessary install software and manuals included
  caddyless front loading tray (takes 3" CDs as well)
  headphone jack with volume control

1 year warranty.

           Eternal ARCHIVE Solutions, Inc.
                650 Cooke Street, #3
                    P.O. Box 4402
              Waterbury, CT 06704-0402
                 (203) 759-0574 voice
                 (203) 759-0553  fax

... CD-ROMs Made EASI (SM)
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From: JEFF WEISS                             Number: 8740
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93 12:00a
Subj: *~ Writable CD-ROMs                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We now have the following writable CDs and hardware for sale.

CD-R Discs:
 
  Ricoh 74 min (660 MB) CD-R discs $19.75 each (any quantity)
 
CD-ROM Recorders:
       ---------   
  Philips CD-ROM RECORDER                              $5,495
    - Philips CDD521 Double Speed CD-ROM Recorder
    - Adaptec 1540c SCSI Controller
    - CD-GEN Premastering Software >now does Multi-Session<
     
  Ricoh CD-ROM RECORDER                                $3,895
    - Ricoh RS 9200CD Single Speed CD-ROM Recorder
    - SCSI Controller
    - CD Record Software 2.0

These recorders are ideal for archiving, and mass data storage.
The blank 650 meg CD-Rs are much cheaper than any other removable
media.  Also, the CD-ROM readers are much cheaper than any Bernoulli,
Syquest, or WORM drive.  They're even cheaper than SCSI tape drives.
     
If you want to transfer data to CD-ROM but don't want to purchase
a CD-ROM recorder at this time, we are pleased to offer you our
DATA CONVERSION SERVICES.  We will transfer your data to CD-ROM for you.
 
Call for a FREE writable CD-ROM primer.
 
           Eternal ARCHIVE Solutions, Inc.
                650 Cooke Street, #3
                    P.O. Box 4402
              Waterbury, CT 06704-0402
                 (203) 759-0574 voice
                 (203) 759-0553  fax

A $4.95 handling charge is added to all orders, no matter how large.
Only the actual shipping charges are billed to your order.
Connecticut residents add 6% sales tax.

... CD-ROMs Made EASI (SM)
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From: STEVE KRAISLER                         Number: 8741
  To: MARTIN YEE                               Date: 12/14/93  7:10p
Subj: Busty babes ii                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MY>   Do you have
any other titles for trade?

MY>Martin Yee

MY>===
MY> * OLX 2.1 * This tagline is umop apisdn


MY>--- Squish v1.01
MY> * Origin: The PC GFX Exchange * San Francisco, CA *  (1:125/217)


Yep.  I have Dinosaur Adventure, Interactive Storytime vol.2,Fractured
Mother Goose and Great Cites Vol 1.
___
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From: KEVIN DOUGLAS                          Number: 8742
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93 11:34p
Subj: Flame XXX Adult CD  Super hot!!         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The FLAME adult CD-ROM is _THE_ superb collection of organized adult SVGA GIFS

     If you can have only 1 adult CD-ROM, Flame is the one!  Here's why:

* Over 3400 hard core images
* Each image adjusted for correct colors & contrast
* Absolutely no BBS ads or logos of any kind!
* Not a single dupe!!!
* FILES.BBS in each image directory
* Comes with two viewers, NOMSSI & SVGA, ready to run from the root directory.
* The NOMSSI viewer auto-configures to any VGA/SVGA card and does slide-shows.
* SVGA also auto-configures and has no problems with images taller than 768.
* Very professionally done cover & tray artwork.  (Created & rendered in 3DS)

Here's a breakdown of the actual contents as they appear in the CD--

Directory       # Images       Megs          Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Backdoor            224        42.2   Anal sex in all shapes & forms
Between              26         4.4   Penis between breast
Bigboobs            127        24.5   Well endowed women
Bondage             310        47.5   Whips, chains, ropes, etc
Dfg                 102        20.5   The famous Dfg series
Dsx                 133        23.6   Data-Shack series
Fisting              25         3.7   If you have to ask...
Gross                71        10.8   Very tasteless collection
Groupsex            147        25.2   More than 2 participants
Head                496        85.9   Blowjobs
Lesbian             231        40.5   Female participants only
Interracial         135        25.9   Black & white mostly
Pregnant             19         3.2   Pregnant females having sex
R                   294        53.9   Everything but actual penetration
Series              348        63.0   Images grouped in storylines
Toys                177        27.9   Sex toys being put to some good use
Transex              61         8.2   Transexxual interactions
Wet                 116        13.5   Urination and what not
XXX                 421        76.0   "Regular" sex acts

                 Flame is being offered at $39.00!

                    Call Mirror Productions at:

                        Voice: 804-979-2035

                         Fax: 804-979-4319

         Terms: MC/VISA, AMEX, COD cash, check (must clear)

  The Flame CD is a U.S. & Canadian copyrighted property of Orbital Madness

                     Distributor inquires welcome!

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From: NISSE HAAK                             Number: 8743
  To: KEI LAU                                  Date: 12/13/93  1:02a
Subj: Re: Buying a CD-ROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Kei Lau to Nisse Haak <=-
Thanks for the answering I was hoping for. The priority and some explanation
what the "technical stuff" means.

I will probably  use the CD-ROM for games, encyclophedias??, GIF-viewing
and I hope to start develop my new photographs to the Kodak-Photo-format
and view them on my computer, and perhaps manipulate them..He He..

Well thanks again and
have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year...

Nisse Haak

... DOS never says "EXCELLENT command or filename"...
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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 8744
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 12/14/93 10:24a
Subj: Specials for X-MAS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

When you say a CD ROM drive is 'AT Bus', does this mean the same thing that it
means for Hard Drives?  In other words 'AT Bus CD ROM' equals 'IDE, plugs into
IDE paddle board card'?
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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 8745
  To: GREGORY GUALTIERI                        Date: 12/16/93  5:58a
Subj: Re: CD's for sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

regular SVGA cards.....

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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 8746
  To: ALLEN DIETZ                              Date: 12/07/93 11:20p
Subj: Re: Encarta for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Allen Dietz to Eddie Phillips <=-

 EP>I have Microsoft's Encarta encyclopedia CD for sale.  This CD is chock
 EP>full of articles, pictures and sound.  It requires Windows to run and a
 EP>sound card for the sound.  I am asking $110 delivered....

 AD> Just for your information, Egghead is selling Encarta new for around
 AD> $89, and you can buy Encarta direct from Microsoft until January 1
 AD> for $99.

Yes, and as you said yourself, "until January 1" (well, it's actually 12/31).
After that, don't expect MS to stay so generous....look at Egghead's price for
Encarta '93 as an example.
 
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From: PAUL T.NELSON                          Number: 8747
  To: RUSTY ATKINS                             Date: 12/08/93  6:17p
Subj: OS/2 2.1 CD-ROM For Sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> *** Quoting Paul T.Nelson to Rusty Atkins dated 12-01-93 ***
-> > OS/2 for Windows will be available in more than 13 languages, and
-> > will be generally available on Nov. 10, 1993.  A 90-day promotional
-> > offering of $39 USD for CD-ROM and $49 USD for diskettes is availab
-> > by calling 1-800-3IBM-OS2.  Additional licenses can be purchased fo
-> > $29 USD. The product will also be available from IBM PC Dealers,
-> > IBM Software Dealers, IBM Remarketers, IBM Resellers and IBM Direct
-> >
->
-> Exactly what is this OS/2 for windozes anyway? Is IBM giving-up alrea
-> Running an operating system emulator under an operating environment (
-> s/w company likes to call an operating SYSTEM) under DOS does not see
Nope, it's just plain old OS/2 2.1 being sold to Windows users.  There
are no differences...  This is not a new product...  Just a good price.
Now only if I had the money for about 14 megs of new Ram...  <g>
                        Paul T.Nelson


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From: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                       Number: 8748
  To: JEFF RUNNELS                             Date: 12/08/93  5:57p
Subj: Re: CD's for Sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Jeff!

In a message to Jeff Collingwood <12/07/93> Jeff Runnels wrote:

JR> Do you still have the shareware cd for sale?  I would be interested in it
JR> the price of $10.  Leave me a message or call 658-8390 (5 pm - 10 pm) or
JR> week-ends.  

Yes I do.  My voice number is 619-789-2603.
...Jeff...

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From: STEWART GAY                            Number: 8749
  To: CHARLIE JARMAN                           Date: 12/08/93  4:25p
Subj: Re: Good deals                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CJ>
CJ>Sony CDU561 (Int/SCSI II)..............$349.00
CJ>   (265ms Access/330kb Xfer/256k Buffer
CJ>    Photo CD compat., Multisession)
CJ>With Interface
CJ>----------------
CJ>
CJ>Sony CDU31A (Int/AT-Bus)...............$199.00 <-- LOW price!
CJ>   (370ms Access/300kb Xfer/64k Buffer
CJ>    Photo CD compat., Mulitsession)
CJ>
CJ>... Charlie Jarman (910)654-4658 <voice>

Have a question for you will both of these chain to a sony CDU 7205 ?
I am running the CDU 7205 on RBBS BBS and would like to add two more
CD Rom's let me know if so any lower price for two?
Stewart Gay..

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 8750
  To: GENE MILLSAPS                            Date: 12/08/93 10:22p
Subj: Incomplete order                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Gene!

Sunday December 05 1993 21:55, Gene Millsaps wrote to Doug Carpenter:

 GM> Summarizing then, the items we need include: (1) Two replacement CD cases.
 GM> (2) User's Guide and an Addendum for Dinosaur Adventure. (3) User's Guide,
 GM> Registration card, and License agreement for Microsoft Bookshelf 1993. (4)
 GM> The accompanying paperback for Arthur's Teacher Trouble.

The reason many of the dealers in this echo are able to offer such low prices,
is because they sell versions of the discs not manufactured for the traditional
retail outlets.  Even though the "read.me" files on the discs may list other
documentation, many of the discs don't come with it.  If you want all of the
"goodies," you should be paying twice as much (or more) for the "retail box
versions" instead of the discount versions available in this echo.  I don't
know Doug very well, but I do know him and this business well enough to say
that I'm confident he sent you EVERYTHING his distibutor sent him (regarding
the discs you purchased).

Later,

Dave

... Grow your own dope... plant a liberal!

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From: MICHAEL GUIDRY                         Number: 8751
  To: DANNY BRIGANCE                           Date: 12/09/93 10:56a
Subj: Bible Cd's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 08 Dec 93, Danny Brigance stated to Michael Guidry:

DB>Hello Michael!
DB>
DB>Monday December 06 1993, Michael Guidry writes to Pat Rickerson:
DB>
DB> MG> I've got The Bible Library containing 9 bibles and 20 referenc
DB>works.
DB> MG> The bibles are:
DB>
DB> MG> American Standard, King James, Living Bible, New International
DB>King
DB> MG> James, Revised Standard, Simple English Bible, New Testament
DB> MG> Transliteration.
DB>
DB> MG> It's not bad, but we've hardly used it. How about $25 and I'll
DB>the
DB> MG> postage?  If ok, send to:
DB>
DB>Michael if you don't hear back from Pat I will take it from you for
DB>Let me know.  I can be reached at (817)244-3296 before noon everyda
DB>all day Sunday/Monday.  Thanks...
DB>

He didn't want it, so you've got it.  Will call you.



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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 8752
  To: KEVIN HOLMAN                             Date: 12/09/93  3:02p
Subj: CD encyclopedia                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KH>Hi all...
KH>
KH>I have software toolworks encyclopedia
KH> for sale.  New and still in plastic with manual
KH>---$15.

DOS or Windows version??


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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 8753
  To: LEO MULVIHILL                            Date: 12/09/93  3:06p
Subj: YOU MORON!!!!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DH>Why in the hell did you leave your Mastercard number on this network??
DH>everyone and their brother are going to call Sears and place an order
DH>favorite bedroom ensemble.  Why, I could just buy a new computer, now
DH>I.  I could get them for my friends as well, but I won't because I'm a
DH>who doesn't take advantage of such irresponsible, gullible, MORONS!!


Dittos from me. That was the dumbest thing I've ever seen.


CANCEL THAT CREDIT CARD NUMBER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





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From: JERRY JOHNSON                          Number: 8754
  To: ANDY BRICK                               Date: 12/08/93  9:56a
Subj: Re: software toolworks en               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Andy Brick to Jerry Johnson <=-

 AB> I'll trade Wing Commander 1/Ultima 6  and Wizpak-6 for it. Ican be
 AB> reached at 904-478-8554 or leave a message in this echo. Thanks

 AB> -!- Maximus 2.01wb
 AB>  ! Origin: JAMS --Navarre, FL-- (904) 939-4017 (1:3612/201)

Hi Andy!
        I already have Wing Commander 1 and Ultima 6.  If you have
        anything else you would like to trade you can leave me a
        message.  Thanks for the response.

                        Jerry


... Blue Wave - World Tour - 1993
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From: JERRY JOHNSON                          Number: 8755
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/08/93 10:03a
Subj: Adult cd - trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a copy of Animation Fantasies Vol. 2 I would like to trade for another
adult cd.  This disk is all gl. and fli. short video clips.  I am looking for
Busty Babes(any version), Asian Ladies, Storm, FAO, or anything else you might
have to trade.

                Contact me here,
                Jerry


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From: JERRY JOHNSON                          Number: 8756
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/08/93 10:07a
Subj: Encyclopedia - trade                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia (for Windows) I would
like to trade.  Looking for educational discs like Arthur's Teacher trouble or
Mixed up Mother Goose or JUst Grandma and Me.  I also would be willing to
listen to other trades you might have. Respond here.

                Thanks,
                Jerry


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From: JOSEPH DANIELS                         Number: 8757
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/04/93 12:13a
Subj: ADULT CDROMS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                 SYSOPS AND DEALERS WANTED TO SELL:

                Hottest Selling Adult CDROMs in the World!
                     Super High Quality or Money Back!
                      Temporary Introductory Pricing!

CDROM TITLE        TOTAL ORDER QUANTITY:    1-2    3-4    5-7    8+
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Adult Reference Library, Fetishes  ARLZO  $29.99  28.99  27.99  26.99
Moving Fantasies, GLs, DLs & FLIs  MOVIG  $29.99  27.99  26.99  24.99
Phone Sex ........................ FONIP  $29.99  28.99  27.99  26.99
Physical Therapy ................. PHYIP  $29.99  28.99  27.99  26.99
Tranz, Transexuals ............... TRZZO  $29.99  28.99  27.99  26.99
Women of Venus ................... VENIB  $29.99  28.99  27.99  26.99
ManPower, Stricktly Gay .......... MANZS  $34.99  33.99  32.99  31.99
My Private Collection #1 or #2 ... MYPZS  $34.99  33.99  32.99  31.99
Q69 .............................. Q96ZZ  $34.99  33.99  32.99  29.99
Amateur Models ................... AMAZB  $39.99  38.99  37.99  36.99
Girls of Vivid #2 ................ VIVEO  $39.99  38.99  37.99  36.99
Hot Pix #3 ....................... HOTZB  $39.99  38.99  37.99  36.99
PC-Pix #1 or #2 or #3 ............ PIXEO  $39.99  38.99  37.99  36.99
Sexhibition ...................... SEXZB  $39.99  38.99  37.99  36.99
Southern Beauties ................ STHZB  $39.99  38.99  37.99  36.99
Luscious Ladies .................. LUCEH  $46.99  45.99  44.99  43.99
Porkware #1 or #2 ................ PRKEZ  $46.99  44.99  43.99  39.99
College Girls (Digital Movie) .... COLEB  $49.99  48.99  47.99  46.99
Debbie Does Dallas (Digital Movie) DEBEB  $49.99  48.99  47.99  46.99
Devil & Miss Jones (Digital Movie) DMJEB  $49.99  48.99  47.99  46.99
Deep Throat (Digital Movie) ...... DEPHH  $56.99  54.99  53.99  52.99
House of Sleeping Beauties ....... HSBHG  $56.99  55.99  54.99  53.99
King Dong (Digital Movie) ........ KNGHG  $56.99  55.99  54.99  53.99
Princess of Persia (Digital Movie) PRPHZ  $56.99  54.99  53.99  49.99
Hidden Obsessions (Digital Movie)  HIDHB  $59.99  58.99  57.99  56.99
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* Combine Titles for Volume Discounts Above


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From: GARY COLMAN                            Number: 8758
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/06/93 12:30p
Subj: R rated, G rated, etc..                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi All

Could someone please explain to me, the different USA methods
of categorising pictures, eg 'R' rated, 'G' rated, etc..

Thanks

Cheers
  Gary

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 8759
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93  4:55a
Subj: Popular Titles                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

             *********   Computer Works CD-Rom Sales!   ********* 
 
                                Popular Titles 
 
Precision Mapping.........$76     The Business Master..............$19 
Grolier MPC Encyclopedia..$44     American Business Phonebook......$16 
US & World Atlas..........$22     Microsoft Works..................$39 
Reference Library.........$19     Prophone Business 1993...........$26 
The Animals MPC...........$24     Desktop Publishers Dream Disc....$37 
Mayo Clinic...............$26     Publishers Paradise..............$32 
The Family Doctor.........$24     Encyclopedia of Clipart..........$24 
Firearms Reference 1993...$29     GIFs Galore......................$16 
US History PC/MAC.........$27     MacMillan Dict. for Children.....$29 
Audubon's Mammals.........$21     Kodak Photo CD for Windows.......$19 
Holy Bible................$22     Tempra Access Photo CD Imaging...$18 
 
Computer Works               For a file containing all descriptions 
CD-Rom Sales!                  download CATALOG.ZIP from our BBS. 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS            Online Orders, File Lists, Catalogs 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 8760
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 12/14/93  7:10a
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices12/12/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RC>           Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM Disc's 
 
Hi Richard.  Do you have any input to the producers at Walnut Creek? 
If so, PLEASE relay to them a bit of advice about the term "BBS Ready". 
As a CD-Rom retailer myself, I have had a good opportunity to compare 
many shareware titles for the best features. 
 
A single layer of directories instead of their usual multiple layers 
saves sysops hours of set up time.  I just installed the Aminet Amiga 
shareware CD-Rom on my BBS.  There were 136 different directories, some 
of which contained only one file.  I had to make 3 complete menu 
screens just to display all the file areas.  How about making the 
directory structure a little more simple and the directories a little 
more broad in topic so that there would not be such unnecessary work for 
those of us trying to run them online? 
 
Example: 
 
Big Sky Rom I           Aminet 
 
E:\BIGSKY01\DL01        E:\AMINET\COMM\BBS\EXCEL 
E:\BIGSKY01\DL02        E:\AMINET\BIZ\DBASE 
E:\BIGSKY01\DL38        E:\AMINET\PIX\IRC\1992PICS\JPG\BERLIN 
 
You see, Big Sky is much easier to set up than the Walnut Creek titles. 
Big Sky limits the number of directories to 38, with a decent number of 
files in each.  Aminet's 136 directories are quite excessive.  Aminet is 
just the latest one I have looked at. All others I have seen are similar 
in directory structure. 
 
This is really not directed at you, but I was hoping you could either 
pass the suggestion along or inform me who from Walnut Creek monitors 
this echo.  Thanks! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 8761
  To: ANTON SHEVCHENKO                         Date: 12/14/93  7:14a
Subj: wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >if you have any cd's for sale, drop me a note. 
  >thanks 
 
We have over 600 to choose from.  You can download our catalog.zip, 
which includes titles, prices, and descriptions or post your address, 
and I will mail you a listing.  We don't mail the catalog with 
descriptions due to size, but will include it on floppy with any order. 
Let me know if you have any questions. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Ordering 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 8762
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93  8:23a
Subj: Big Sky Rom                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

             Big Sky Rom I - The Downloader's Rom     $26.00 
 
            The following is a summary of Big Sky's contents: 
 
 1-Applications                        has   78 files in   8860442 bytes 
 2-Banner/Label Programs & Forms       has   55 files in   4999467 bytes 
 3-Business Accounting & Finance       has  171 files in  27236955 bytes 
 4-Benchmarks/Virus/Diagnostics Aids   has  200 files in  10975483 bytes 
 5-Batch/Boot/Event Utilities          has  187 files in   7425730 bytes 
 6-C.A.D. & C.A.M.                     has   99 files in  17424182 bytes 
 7-Communications Programs             has  161 files in  11892218 bytes 
 8-Comm Protocols & Modem Setups       has  124 files in   6921283 bytes 
 9-Compression Programs                has   93 files in   4994354 bytes 
10-DataBase Programs                   has  149 files in  22266071 bytes 
11-Desktop/Desktop Pub/Spreadsheets    has  354 files in  23892456 bytes 
12-DOS Utilities                       has  364 files in  20528228 bytes 
13-GAMES and Educational Programs      has  455 files in  51947623 bytes 
14-Graphic Programs & Utilities        has  186 files in  17189493 bytes 
15-Graphics/Animations/Raytraced       has   67 files in   8302645 bytes 
16-Ham Radio/Shortwave Listening       has  127 files in  10827913 bytes 
17-Handicapped Aids & Utilities        has   96 files in   6328069 bytes 
18-Home & Personal Computing & Humor   has  209 files in  20981405 bytes 
19-Home Recipes / Health / Medicine    has   35 files in   3264702 bytes 
20-LANs/Multitask/Nets/AltOperatingSys has  513 files in  25065622 bytes 
21-Menu Programs & Shells              has  158 files in  13988639 bytes 
22-OffLine Mail Readers                has   58 files in   8041759 bytes 
23-OS/2(tm) Files / Programs           has  139 files in   7248561 bytes 
24-Patches & UnProtects                has   76 files in    670913 bytes 
25-Printer Helps / Drivers /Utilities  has   56 files in   6728671 bytes 
26-Speaker & SB & AdLib & Midi Utils   has  136 files in  14315154 bytes 
27-Religion & Genealogy Programs       has   82 files in  19894361 bytes 
28-WordProcessing & Text Editors       has  544 files in  49620750 bytes 
29-Win Communications                  has   75 files in  10589118 bytes 
30-Win Desktop / Editors / Fonts       has  421 files in  46274330 bytes 
31-Win Drivers                         has   72 files in  26672107 bytes 
32-Win Games / Sound Files             has  531 files in  35482915 bytes 
33-Win Home & Personal                 has  117 files in  20100365 bytes 
34-Win Icons BMP's & Screen Apps       has  277 files in  24377912 bytes 
35-Win NT                              has   51 files in   4601488 bytes 
36-Win Utilities and Help files        has  426 files in  33732237 bytes 
37-Windows Demo                        has   52 files in  17869028 bytes 
38-Outerware(tm) Yellowstone Park BMPs has   30 files in  13327780 bytes 
 
Total of files = 7024 
Total of bytes = 664860429 
 
Big Sky Rom I is available from Computer Works for $26.00 
We are now taking pre-orders for Big Sky Rom II - Top Drawer $19.00 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Ordering 
 
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From: DANNY BRIGANCE                         Number: 8763
  To: MICHAEL GUIDRY                           Date: 12/16/93  9:17a
Subj: Bible Cd's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Michael!

Monday December 13 1993, Robert Moss writes to Michael Guidry:


 >>RM>MG> I've got The Bible Library containing 9 bibles and 20 reference
 >>RM>  > The bibles are:

 MG>> I already promised it to Danny Brigance.  If, for some reason, the deal
 >> falls thru, will let you know.

Not going to fall thru Mike.  In fact you should already have the check.  If
not let me know.  Also I was clear on your message about not sending it until
Tuesday evening.  Will let you know when it arrives.  Thanks....

Danny

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From: DANNY BRIGANCE                         Number: 8764
  To: STEVE KRAISLER                           Date: 12/16/93  9:34a
Subj: Busty babes ii                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Steve!

 SK> Yep.  I have Dinosaur Adventure, Interactive Storytime vol.2,Fractured
 SK> Mother Goose and Great Cites Vol 1.

Are these for sale?

Danny

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 8765
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/16/93  4:34a
Subj: Re: Blaine Richard                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>Was it 'Southern Beauties', "Ecstasy", "Busty Babes Vol I"--It can only be o

It was Ecstasy Hot Pix.  If you feel inclined to make this active duty
soldier happy (and I don't want to see you get mad) you may send the
disc or any other to:

Randy Neuner
196 Hughes St
Ft Huachuac, AZ 85613

Well thanks very much again and Merry Christmas.  I will be awaiting the
disc with sweaty palms, hehe.
Randy

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From: DOUG SUMMERS                           Number: 8766
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/15/93  5:16p
Subj: 24-bit adult CD's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Need some pricing on 24-bit adult CD's. Prefer pictures, not the
full-motion video-types.
Doug


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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 8767
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/16/93 10:08a
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New Release        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

************ GRAPHICAL IMAGES OF FLORIDA, INC. *************

                          Presents

******************** BODACIOUS BEAUTIES ********************

    Available From Your Distributor By January 15, 1994

       A FULLY COMMERCIAL -- FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC

        More Than 80 Well Known BODACIOUS BEAUTIES
          Over 2,000 Hi-Res GIFs at 1024x768x256
                    Over 650 Megabytes
                 From Original 35mm Slides
                     New GUI Interface
                 Installs Quickly & Easily
                  Extremely User Friendly
                 Mouse Support & Popup Help
                Multiple Directory Slide Show

                          RATED - X

******************* FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!! *****************
****** FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS *****
**************** RATES AVAILBALE UPON REQUEST **************
                    TELEPHONE 407-831-3011


50 of the BEST Known BODACIOUS BEAUTIES include:

Front Covergirl - CRYSTAL STORM
Back Covergirl  - DIXIE BUBBLES
Inside Front    - DAKOTA KELLY

Alyssa Alps             Angel Bust              Angela Summers
Bambi The Amazon        Bodacious Babbett       Brandy Baby
Brandi Myles            Busty Belle             Busty Brittany
Candy Cantelopes        Chessie Moore           Chrissy Paris
Cotton Candy            Crystal Topps           Erika Everest
Europe Dichan           Fluffy Pillows          Heather Hooters
Honey Hills             Honey Moons             Jerica Fox
Jessica Fox             Jessica Juggs           Justa Dream
Keisha                  Kimberly Kupps          Kiss
Leanna Lovelace         Lisa Chest              Lisa Rae
LuLu Devine             Lynden Johnson          Madison
Mickey Mounds           Montana                 Patty Plenty
Persia                  Princess Pattiya        Suzie Boobies
Tabatha Towers          Tammy Monroe            Taylor Wayne
Toi                     Traci Teeze             Trinity Loren
Veronica Brazil         Wendy Whoppers

Stay tuned for more information regarding our NEW GUI interface
in future posts.  
 
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From: STEPHANE SEGUIN                        Number: 8768
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/16/93 12:37a
Subj: Busty Babes II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

I was wondering if Busty Babes II is worth it ???
I have Busty Babes (Volume 1)

What other GOOD cd I should get ??

Anyone in here shit to canada *FROM CANADA* ???
I hate having these "XXX" stuff cross the border...

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From: STEPHANE SEGUIN                        Number: 8769
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 12/16/93 12:44a
Subj: Adult CD trade wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Greg Sterling wrote in a message to Joe Burke:

GS> Joe,
GS> Will trade you Busty Babes 3,vol.1 for ANIMATION FANTASIES. 
GS> Let me know what you think.

Busty Babes 3 ???
Was this a typo or is there 3 of them out there now ???

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From: HOWARD RICE                            Number: 8770
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93 12:14p
Subj: 4 TITLES $45                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mavis Teaches Typing
World Atlas
Us Atlas
Chess Master 3000

PC versions on one disk.  $45+4shipping.

  Howard Rice 708-433-0074  Days & sometimes late PM.
  1805 St.Johns Ave. Highland Park, IL. 60035
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From: JD BROWN                               Number: 8771
  To: TIM SHEEHAN                              Date: 12/17/93  5:49p
Subj: OS/2 CD wanted                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CIS: 72027,2432  Internet: JD_Brown@f3622.n1.z1.fidonet.org   IBM LINK @
DEV0580

TS> If anyone has a copy of OS/2 on CD-ROM please leave me a note. Thanks.




 Yep. We have it.


  Christmas Special!

  OS/2 2.1 on CDROM

  $ 85.99 plus shipping.


  Computer Systems and Software Solutions
  1-615-967-9714




___
 X KWQ/2 1.2a X PS/2 9595OMT,32MB RAM and OS/2 2.1. Speed and Stability.

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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8772
  To: DAVID REMER                              Date: 12/14/93  9:01p
Subj: Cd-rom drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific David Remer postulated to Charlie about Cd-rom drives...


        Hi David, the following answers are as per my supplier's tech
        support people:

 CJ>Hitachi-
 CJ>    CDR-3700 (I) AT..........................$399.00

 DR> Is this compatible with the controller card and cables for
 DR> the CDR 1700S drives for daisy chaining?

        Yes, as they both use the same I/F card (CRIF18S).

 CJ>Sony-
 CJ>    CDU-31-03 (I) Dbl. spin *Includes AT I/F.$165.00 *LOW PRICE*

 DR> Is this compatible for daisychaining to the CDU 531 series?

        Not that they know of, but their info on the 531 is limited.

 CJ>    CDU-535 (I) Sony bus.....................$275.00

 DR> Same question as above?

        I didn't know if you wanted info on the 535 <--> 531 or the
        31 <--> 535, so I asked about both. The 535 <--> 531 should be
        compatible as they *should* use the same bus (again limited info
        here). The 31 <--> 535 should be compatible as they both use the
        Sony bus.

 CJ>Toshiba 3401B (I) Dbl. spin SCSI.............$379.00

 DR> How much for the External model of this drive with cable for
 DR> Adaptec 1542B, SCSI to Centronics I believe?

        The drive is $459.00 external. I don't list the Adaptec 1542B.
        However, Toshiba has a PCF kit for CD-ROM (SCSI cable; PC/AT
        adaptor; S/W drivers; terminator; and disk/manual for $149.00,
        too.

 DR> On the other drives above, could you please quote and answer
 DR> for External models. Not interested in internal. Thanks.

        The other answers are for external models where available.
        Please let me know if I can be of further service to you. I hope
        that I have helped you make a decision on which drive to
        purchase from us. Thanks for the opportunity to help.

                                                        Charlie

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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8773
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 12/16/93 10:27a
Subj: CDROM Caddies...                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific James Porter postulated to All about CDROM Caddies......

 JP> I am looking to buy 8 CDROM caddies for 8 Hitachi 3500 CDROM drives.
 JP> Prices anyone?

        James, I can get those for $6.50 each (Quantity 100 or more) or
        $12.50 each. I get a great break at 100 quantity. :)
                                                        Charlie

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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8774
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/16/93 10:39a
Subj: DR. Line of CD's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Folks,

        I am offering the DR. line of CD's at a GREAT price! These are
        ** version 2 **, the NEW ones juts pressed a week or two ago.

        Dr. Windows..............$12.00         ** ALL NEW **
        Dr. Games for Windows....$12.00    ** Version 2 Releases **
        Dr. Games for DOS........$12.00   Shipping is $3.00/1-2 disks
        Dr. Shareware Gold.......$12.00  Allow 14-21 days for shipping

        >> Buy all four for just $42.00 <<

                                Coming Soon!
        Dr. OS/2        Dr. Clipart        Dr. Fonts for Windows
        Dr. Music Lab   Dr. Sound Factory* Dr. AVI for Windows*

        These are introductory prices for the version 2 releases of the
        popular Dr. series of CD's from Accurate Research, Inc. Follow
        up orders will be at a significant increase in price.

* -denotes commercial releases (not shareware)
                                                Charlie




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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8775
  To: ANTON SHEVCHENKO                         Date: 12/16/93 10:40a
Subj: wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific Anton Shevchenko postulated to All about wanted...

 AS> if you have any cd's for sale, drop me a note.

        Would you be interested in Phoenix 3.0 for $11.00 plus shipping?

                                        Charlie

... Politically Incorrect and proud of it!!!
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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8776
  To: GREG COBB                                Date: 12/16/93 10:42a
Subj: Weird Things                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific Greg Cobb postulated to All about Weird Things...

 GC> I just got my first disk, and I'm having some annoying
 GC> problems out of it.  I run SuperBBS and don't use a CDROM door, but
 GC> maybe I should.  Sometimes one file area will say "Files.BBS not
 GC> found".  The extended descriptions are being displayed odd too.  The

        I would *guess* that this is more a problem with your BBS setup
        for the CD than the disc or drive. Check out your docs for the
        BBSware first.
                        Charlie


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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8777
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/16/93 10:43a
Subj: CD-ROM drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  CD-ROM   (E)= External  (I)= Internal  OS/2= Confirmed compat.
 ---------
NEC-
    CDR-74-1 (E) Dbl. spin SCSI..............$399.00
       280ms access/300k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD; MPC1; Mac
    CDR-84-1 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI..............$309.00
       280ms access/300k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD; MPC1; Mac; OS/2
    CDR-500 (I) TRIPLE SPIN SCSI.............$499.00  WOW!
       Below 200ms/256k buffer; PhotoCD
    CDR-600 (E) TRIPLE SPIN SCSI.............$589.00  COOL!
       Below 200ms/256k buffer; PhotoCD
    CDR-900 (I) ** QUADRUPLE SPIN ** SCSI....$999.00  AWESOME!
       Below 200ms/Blazing fast!

Hitachi-
    CDR-3700 (I) AT..........................$399.00
       300ms; MPC1
    CDR-3750 (I) SCSI........................$429.00
       300ms; MPC1
    CDR-6700 (I) Dbl. spin Hitachi bus or AT.$435.00
       260ms access/300k Xfer/128k buffer;
       PhotoCD
    CDR-6750 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI..............$439.00
       260ms access/300k Xfer/128k buffer;
       PhotoCD
    CDR-8750 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI..............$459.00
       238ms access/307k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD; MPC2
    CDR-4000E Tower System with 4 CDR-6700...$2699.00 Tower system!

Sony-
    CDU-31-03 (I) Dbl. spin *Includes AT I/F.$165.00 *LOW PRICE*
       550ms access; Not the fastest, but
       this is a solid drive.
    CDU-535 (I) Sony bus.....................$275.00
       340ms access; XA compliant w/opt. kit
    CDU-561 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI...............$349.00
       265ms access/330k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD; OS/2
    CDU-541 (I) SCSI.........................$349.00
       380ms access; MPC
    CDU-7205/N (E) Sony bus..................$445.00
       340ms access; XA compliant w/opt. kit

Philips-
    CM205XRS (I) w/Audio.....................$329.00
       MPC
    CDD521 600MB RECORDER w/o software.......$4299.00 CD-RECORDER!
       Dbl. spin; Multiformats

Panasonic-
    CR-522 (I) * Includes AT I/F.............$199.00 *LOW PRICE*
       380ms access/150k Xfer;64k buffer;
       PhotoCD
    CR-562 (I) * Includes AT I/F.............$239.00
       340ms access/300k Xfer/64k buffer;
       PhotoCD

Texel DM3028 (I) SCSI........................$359.00
       240ms access/335k Xfer/64k buffer;
       PhotoCD

Teac CD-50 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI................$359.00
       265ms access/365k Xfer/64k buffer;
       PhotoCD; MPC

Toshiba 3401B (I) Dbl. spin SCSI.............$379.00
       200ms access/330k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD

    Other models available. I also carry over 350 CD-ROM disc titles
  for your pleasure, education and reference.
                                              Charlie


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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8778
  To: BILL BARRETT                             Date: 12/16/93 10:46a
Subj: looking for Sony 535's                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific Bill Barrett postulated to All about looking for Sony 535's...

 BB> In the market for 1 or 2 Sony 535's, will pay up to $175.00 for them

        Bill, the cost on these drives is more than $175, so you will be
        looking for used drives. I sell the new CDU-535 for $275.00 and
        would be happy to negotiate shipping if you were to buy two.
                                                        Charlie

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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8779
  To: DUANE BROWN                              Date: 12/16/93 11:54a
Subj: Looking for CD-ROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific Duane Brown postulated to All about Looking for CD-ROM...

 DB> I am looking for a CD ROM for personal use.  I know about the single
 DB> and double speeds, with their 150k/sec and 300k/sec rates (that's what

        Duane,
        First, you should ask yourself exactly what you will use the
        drive for. Is it to play games? Run on a BBS?
        Educational/Reference? Then, you can make an appropriate
        decision on what access and transfer rates you need/want. BTW,
        the rates you quoted above are transfer rates and the drives can
        achieve those rates easily-- with "burst rates" of up to 1M
        plus.

 DB> is claimed).  What access times should I be looking for?  How much

        Again, depending on use. But, one thing you should know is that
        even a slow CD-ROM drive can run faster than any 14.4 modem-- so
        the modem won't be waiting on the CD to catch <if you're
        thinking of BBS use> On the other hand, if you intend to play
        graphics intensive games, you should look for a multispeed (dbl
        or triple spin) drive or the graphics *may* be jerky in motion.

 DB> more,typically, is an external CD rom, compared to a internal unit?

        Most of my drives run about $50-80 more for an external model of
        the *same* drive. OTOH, some of the internal drives have
        eqivalent external models very nearly the same price.

 DB> My current case does not have room for anything internal.

        You have two choices then. 1) Free up an internal bay or 2) Buy
        an external drive. If you are considering staying ahead of the
        game OR are using Windows mostly, buy an external drive that
        runs from a parallel port--not an external SCSI adaptor.

 DB> Is there anything else that I am missing?

        Really depends on your intended usage. It seems you are headed
        in the right direction, though. If I can be of any additional
        service to you, please let me know.
                                           Charlie

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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8780
  To: NICK LUDLOW                              Date: 12/16/93 10:56a
Subj: Wanted <Info>                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific Nick Ludlow postulated to All about Wanted <Info>...

 NL> I am looking for a CD that has Deprotects,Cheats,Patches and what
 NL> not! I dont want a CD that has just one directory for them! If you can

        Nick, I don't think there is such a beast because I don't think
        there are that many cheats and patches out there. Most of your
        better shareware CD's have at least one directory that covers
        these. You can always keep up with the latest NeverLock releases
        as they cover many game patches, etc. Good luck!
                                                        Charlie

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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8781
  To: DAVID HOBBS                              Date: 12/16/93 11:03a
Subj: Mac CD-Rom                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific David Hobbs postulated to All about Mac CD-Rom...

 DH> Anyone have a good deal on a cd-rom drive for a macintosh.
 DH> Double or Triple speed only and with an access time of >300ms.

        David, I have quite a few drives that are Mac compatible. A few
        of them in the dbl. spins are:

        Hitachi CDR-1750SMAC; NEC CDR-38, CDR-74-1 and CDR-84-1;
        and most of the Toshiba XM-3401xx models. Separate Mac kits are
        required by most, as you already know. I'll be happy to help
        you acquire any of the above (or other models).
                                                        Charlie

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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8782
  To: RANDY COGHILL                            Date: 12/16/93 11:06a
Subj: Canadian pricing                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific Randy Coghill postulated to All about Canadian pricing...

 RC> particular the Drive should be a Double Spin (MPC2 compliant) CD-Rom
 RC> drive, the Pro Audio Spectrum or the Pro Audio Studio sound card and
 RC> please state the type of software that is included.

               CD Sound Dimension by ATI Technologies
               --------------------------------------
Stereo F/X CD sound card Multimedia Upgrade Kit
        486 compatible joystick/MIDI port
        6 Channel mixer
        MPC, Windows, SB and Adlib compatible
        44 kHz
        8 watts (4W per channel)
        4 Operator, 20 Voice stereo FM synthesizer
        Five Year Manufacvturer Warranty

Mitsumi LU-005 internal CD-ROM
        (350ms Access/150kb Xfer/32k Buffer
         Photo CD compat., Multisession)
        MPC compatible
        One Year Manufacturer Warranty

Also included:
        Windows Master CD and Game Master CD included (2500+ programs)

        Price: $350.00 [US] (total package and **FREE** Labtec
                            CS-550 shielded speakers)
                                                       Charlie

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From: JOHN VAN HARE                          Number: 8783
  To: KEVIN BEYERS                             Date: 12/16/93  3:09p
Subj: Re: Magnavox CDD-461                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 08 Dec 93  12:59:12, Kevin Beyers said this to John Van Hare.

KB> Hello I'm currently selling Mitsumi Cd-rom Drives for 220.00 at this time..
KB> the suggested retail prices for this particular cd-rom internal is $369.00 
KB> I'm welling to sell them for less.. here some stats on the cd-rom drive.
KB>  
KB> Maker:         Mitsumi
KB> Access time:   350Msec
KB> photo CD?:     Yes.
KB> 
KB>  
KB> If you're interested, just leave me a wire or sending me a line 209-576-181
KB> or call my BBS at 209-576-1606.... Merry christma
Thanks, but I was looking for inexpensive cdroms for file servers in a BBS 
environment, if I wanted a double speed, I'd buy the 200 dollar Panasonic...

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From: MARTIN TORRES                          Number: 8784
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 12/16/93  9:36p
Subj: Re: Big Sky                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Jim Lambert to Arnie Gross <=-

 AG> JL> Big Sky Rom II - Top Drawer (Pre-Orders) $19.00
 > JL> Soon to be released!  This disc has our highest
 > JL> recommendation for a top notch BBS Ready CD-Rom.
 > JL> You will not find a better shareware disc.....

 JL> Computer Works                                  Jim...
 JL> CD-Rom Sales!
 JL> (205) 793-4481 Voice
 JL> (205) 671-0092 BBS

Ok Put me down for one.Just post details on how to order and when will 
it be released?

                                                       Martin

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 8785
  To: CLIFF FIVEASH                            Date: 12/16/93  4:31a
Subj: Peir 3                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <10 Dec 93  07:03:00>, Cliff Fiveash (1:366/29) writes:

 >2. Then---There are a FEW Sysops (and only a few, thankfully) who, for
 >whatever reasons, are COMPLETELY LACKING IN PROFESSIONLISM, ETHICS AND
 >INTEGRITY when it comes to operating their systems and respecting their
 >users. They usually don't remain on the BBS scene for long and for
 >obvious reasons. The sad thing is,that while they are on the scene,
 >they tend to SOIL the Overall good reputation and high esteem in which
 >GOOD SYSOPS are held.
I don't think you understand completely, some sysops strip the private bit 
from any message in a PUBLIC echo which this is and then the whole world can 
read the message. I don't know about the all the rules in this echo but it may
 not even allow PRIVATE messages therefore the sysop that strips the private
bit
would not be doing anything out of the ordinary. I kind of like sending a 
private message in a public echo to writing a message on a wall in the middle 
of town and expecting nobody but the intended to read it. If you want private 
send NETMAIL or call the person voice. I know you probably think this is a 
flame, but it isn't. 

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 8786
  To: MIKE HILL                                Date: 12/15/93 11:01p
Subj: Re: Shipment received...                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>     Joe,
>       I received the PhoneDisc residential version today. Works great,
>     MOST of the numbers I've researched so far have been correct. I
>     guess that's the best that can be expected when dealing with phone
>     numbers. Anyway, I'm happy with it, and thanks for your quick
> response.
>                                                 Mike
>   Mike,
    Thanks for your kind words.  We are sure glad that we bought all of 
the "research phone numbers & adresses" type CD-discs available.  I'm 
very glad that you have enjoyed my recommendation and will continue to 
recommend their disc's as many Genealogist call us for these type of 
disc's.
    Again thanks for expressing your satisfaction.  I'll be in the 
office on Christmas day, if you should decide to spend any holiday cash 
on new CD-Titles;-)
    Regards,
    Joe Rinehart
    v. 216.296.9831
    d&f. 216.296.4446 (GIGO)

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 8787
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 12/17/93  7:34a
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New Release        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <15 Dec 93  12:18:00>, David Vangelder (1:363/6969) writes:

 >******************* FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!! *****************
 >****** FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS *****
 >**************** RATES AVAILBALE UPON REQUEST **************
Okay I am requesting...what is the fee for a single node, two nodes etc up to 
4 nodes (I don't think any of my customers have more than 4). 

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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 8788
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 12/16/93  9:39p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD FOR SALE/TRA               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Bob Jackson to All <=-

 BJ> I have a copy of the adult CD "T&A to the Maxx" for sale/trade. I'll
 BJ> take $15 (shipped) or trade even for another adult GIF CD I don't
 BJ> have. If interested, call me @ (713) 488-0065 between 6-9 p.m. CST.

If you still have it, I'll take it...let me know...thanks !!
 
... Voice: 919-870-6926 (eves/weekends)
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 8789
  To: MAURO INCROCCI                           Date: 12/15/93  8:45p
Subj: CD ROM SOUGHT                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> format listings.  I am a sysop and need to upgrade my SDN1+ and Super
-> Carousel ROM disks.  Any help (especially Canadian addresses and
-> costs) would be greatly appreciated.

Hi Mauro!

   We have two exceptional series that you'll be interested in.
Shareware Explorer ($69) is a 4-disc set with set-ups most most BBSs,
with very recent shareware. Shareware Studio ($49) is a 3 disc-set,
again with very recent shareware. Both sets were produced with great
care - a good layout, no viruses or commercial/copyright-infringing
files. The third volume of Shareware Studio 3 is also available
individually for the sale price of $30. We also have the popular Night
Owl 10, and Pier 3...
   These prices are in Canadian dollars, and please note that all
applicable taxes are included.
   Give me a call at 306-789-4654, and we'll get you set up.
   Vince

CD-ROM WHOLESALERS * 306-789-4654 Voice * 306-789-8690 Fax
6 Armstrong Bay    * Regina, Sk., S4N 4G7
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 8790
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/15/93  8:59p
Subj: Limited Time Special                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA

               6 Armstrong Bay * Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7
               306-789-4654 Voice * 306-789-8690 Fax

    Last Chance for Christmas Specials...  while quantities last.
              All Prices Include All Applicable Taxes

10 left: OS/2 Box  $25 Cdn / $20 U.S.
10 left: LIMITED EDITION Autographed Busty Babes Volume I/r3  $49 Cdn
 1 left: Best of Vivid (Porn Star - Motion or Stills) $49 Cdn
 1 left: Foxes $29 Cdn

   ...and of course, our usual everyday low pricing on all the
   *best* titles available is still in effect.
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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 8791
  To: ANTHONY FURGISON                         Date: 12/16/93  8:43a
Subj: Hitachi CDROM's                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 AF> I am looking for some Hitachi roms that are in good 
 AF> shape for a reasonable price. Please respond here or 
 AF> call my BBS - The Space Station 914-292-0670 FidoNet # 
 AF> 1:272/111. Will pay all COD charges but you must 
 AF> guarantee me that they are in working order. I have 
 AF> bought 9 already and 2 did not work at all so I will 
 AF> want to verify they work.

I have 3 of them, along with the card that will handle up to 4. Give me an
offer, and I will see how bad I want to sell them. They DO work, I have all 3
online along with a mitsumi.

CJK

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 8792
  To: JEFF DANNER                              Date: 12/15/93  6:33p
Subj: CD-ROM Shareware                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JD>I am currently running a BBS at Longview Community College.  We are 
  >considering adding a CD-ROM.  However I have only seen one CD that 
  >had shareware on it. If anyone out there knows where I can get 
  >shareware on CD  please leave me a message.   Thank You. 
 
Hi Jeff.  We have loads of them.  Give us a call or post your address 
and we'd be glad to send you a catalog.  Shareware is our specialty. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Orders, File Lists, Catalogs 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 8793
  To: BILL WOOD                                Date: 12/15/93  6:38p
Subj: LOOM ON CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BW>LOOM ON CD................................$30.00 
 
BW> THIS IS A ONE TIME OFFER, GREAT DEAL!!!!!! 
 
Great?  We sell it new for $18.00.  I suggest you buy from some of us 
dealers in the nets for better prices. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 8794
  To: CHARLIE JARMAN                           Date: 12/15/93  7:14p
Subj: Big Sky Special                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CJ>The prolific Jim Lambert postulated to All about Big Sky Special... 
 
CJ>JL> *  All files scanned with McAfee Associates SCAN 9.15 V104 
 
CJ>       Why use such an old version? The current version is V109. I know 
  >       they probably couldn't have used it, but how about V108 or V107? 
  >       This older version may have left something out. ???? Curiosity. 
 
Big Sky Rom I is not a brand new disc.  Scanv104 was the current version 
when it was released.  Big Sky Rom II - Top Drawer is about to be 
released.  Scanv109 was the scanner used for it.  I have six discs 
online my BBS, and Big Sky Rom I is very popular, and consistently has 
good search results when others don't.  I will keep it online even when 
I put Top Drawer online soon. 
 
CJ>JL> *  All archives contain a FILE_ID.DIZ to identify them. 
 
CJ>       This is also a big help for a SysOp. 
 
Yes, I agree.  It is one of my favorites, even though it takes a lot of 
time and slows down the release of the disc. 
 
CJ>JL> *  All files are True Date Stamped based on the largest file. 
 
CJ>       Is this the way most discs date their files? If so, there are 
  >       probably some problems with getting true dates.....not in the 
  >       favor of the manufacturer. I have some programs that have larger 
  >       doc files than .EXE's and some are upgraded versions with the 
  >       older docs and a whatsnew type file. If this is a disc you make, 
  >       this might be something to think about. 
 
I understand your concern.  A lot of thought went into this.  Many 
CD-Roms use other methods.  Some even just use the date that they added 
the archive to the collection, or alter them for "latest Date" bragging 
rights.  That is sad, but true.  If you use the date of the newest file 
in the archive, many will be inaccurate due to files added by BBSes that 
may stick in ads during automatic file checking, or other files that 
don't indicate when the program was last revised.  The largest file was 
chosen because, in most cases, it is the main executable of the program. 
You are right that in some cases, the doc file may be the largest, but 
usually the docs will be updated as the program is revised. 
 
CJ>JL> Big Sky Rom I  - The Downloader's Rom    $26.00 
 
CJ>       Lastly, do you have SysOp pricing on the discs? 
 
The price is set for Sysops since they are by far the majority of the 
buyers.  The price is lower than almost all other good shareware discs. 
Big Sky Rom II - Top Drawer will be released in the next couple weeks 
for $19.00 to make more people aware just how good it is.  As soon as it 
is released, I will make put it online my BBS so that everybody can take 
a look before they buy.  We are now taking pre-orders for the people who 
want to be among the first to get it.  If you have any questions, don't 
hesitate to ask.  Thanks. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Orders, File Lists, Catalogs 
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 8795
  To: KEVIN DOUGLAS                            Date: 12/16/93 12:01p
Subj: Re: Flame XXX Adult CD  Super hot!!     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <12-14-93 23:34> Kevin Douglas wrote:

KD>> The FLAME adult CD-ROM is _THE_ superb collection of organized adult
KD>> SVGA GIFS
KD>> * Over 3400 hard core images

Are they licensed or are they images gathered from the online environment ?
Does the publisher actually "Own" these images via licensing ? The sysops need
to know if this disc could be subject to legal problems.

KD>> Bondage             310        47.5   Whips, chains, ropes, etc
KD>> Fisting              25         3.7   If you have to ask...
KD>> Wet                 116        13.5   Urination and what not

These directories alone can be challenged under the "RICO" act--which is
obscenity.

If you didn't know the FBI monitors this echo, and I would suggest that you not
be as descriptive in the future--If you are not aware, 1994 is gonna be the
'Obscenity' challenges for CD-ROMS. This is why publishers are switching over
to licensed/soft collections--But, if you have $250,000 in a legal contingency
fund, you have no worries--

I could be wrong here, but this disc sounds as if it was designed much like the
'Grassroot' disc's were a year ago--This puts the publisher and distributors at
great risk--Take it from me the *MOST* sued publisher in the industry for 1993,
I hope you understand what it is your dealing with and the ramifications for
doing so--

Besides, the concerns for your welfare, all the best for the disc !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 8796
  To: DENNIS HENDERSON                         Date: 12/16/93 12:12p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES VOLUME II               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <12-11-93 22:44> Dennis Henderson wrote:

DH>> LN>>Geesh, how good could some gal at 37 be ?

DH>> My wife is 41 and will make you stammer, stutter and drool all over
DH>> yourself.  Don't be so quick to generalize based on age
DH>> alone....older
DH>> frequently IS better.  An experienced self-confident WOMAN beats a
DH>> nervous giggly GIRL hands down!  But we stray from the topic....

Whoa 'Hoss', perhaps my comment is out of perspective here... the comment above
was in reference to *MYSELF* who is 37 and how good could *I* be--If you can
locate the original 'Un-hacked' message, you can clearly see I was making a
jestful comment against *ME* and not the general populous of women.

Egads...... and BTW, I bet you wife is beautiful, and I applaud you coming
forward but don't tease me about something I CAN'T HAVE <big grin>

Friends ?

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 8797
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 12/16/93 12:44p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol II                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Dan Wade <12-14-93 16:51> David Vangelder wrote:

DV>> In a message to David Vangelder <11Ä05Ä93 15:21> Dan Wade wrote:

DV>> After all, if I am good enough to sell Ms. Noga her 1.2 Gig
DV>> Micropolis Hard Drive, I'd be only to happy to do business with you.

Mr. van Gelder, do not use myself or my product line as a credit leaverage for
you or your company--Let's put this in perspective for this gentleman about
your being 'Good Enough' to sell myself a 1.2 gig drive, therefore making you
all that more accomodating to do business with......

Why don't you bring 'Our' business dealings up to date--Let's discuss our
professional considerations towards one another in a form of a time capsule,
shall we ? The gig drive was bought during the first quarter of 1993 when
Florida Lions Den was Lee Noga and Blaine Richard, and you were off in other
directions which I assume were not CD-ROM related.

What have our dealings been since ?--Blaine formed a corp with you after I
terminated our partnership--You generated a letter in June asking for $90,000
dollars for damages over alleged infringing software, you were present during
my 3 hour interogation/deposition on Nov 27, you were collaborating with the
plaintiffs lawyer in Federal Court Nov 30th with myself on the other side with
my attorney--and you were present when the Federal judge rejected the request
to have me bonded for a ridiculous $500,000 dollars. I hardly think the world
should be led to believe that *YOU* and *I* exchange Christmas cards.

PS--Congrats on your and Blaines new disc ! Hope you sell millions of them.
    I'm sure this disc will be a great value and very professionally done.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 8798
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 12/16/93 12:50p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol II - Review         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <12-14-93 16:46> David Vangelder wrote:

DV>> In a message to David Doyle <11Ä08Ä93 12:26> Lee Noga wrote:

DV>> LN>> because we got word that Blaine intentionally notified several
DV>> LN>> areas where the possibility of lawsuit against me would be
DV>> LN>> They were very quick to brag about all their malice
DV>> effortsÄÄ

DV>> I did not boast or brag about any suits that may have come Ms.
DV>> Noga's way.

I Have proof to the contrary.

I suggest you take this topic out of the public eye. It would be in your best
interest to do so.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: JOYCE ZWEEDYK                          Number: 8799
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/16/93 10:57p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD PRICES 3/3                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

*** Quoting Mike Shannon to All dated 12-14-93 ***
> 
>  Grolier's MPC Ency 6.0 (New!).45.00    Street Atlas USA 


Hey Mike, have you looked at the New Grolier's MPC Ency 6.0.... I would be
interested in hearing something about it..... is it good?  Does it have a log
of information?  How does it stack up to some of the other encyclopedias.... I
used to be on Prodigy, and I loved their encyclopedia.  I have the 1991 New
Grolier Electronic Encylopedia and Microsoft's Bookshelf... looking for a good
update.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 8800
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 12/17/93  6:31a
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Great! Looking forward to it, Dave. Thanks for the holiday wishes, and please
accept mine in return.

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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 8801
  To: DANNY BRIGANCE                           Date: 12/18/93  7:04a
Subj: Bible Cd's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Danny - have you received my check yet and have you sent the cd?  Jerry

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From: EXAVIER                                Number: 8802
  To: JEFF DANNER                              Date: 12/16/93 11:59a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Shareware                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JD> I am currently running a BBS at Longview Community College.  We are 
JD> considering adding a CD-ROM.  However I have only seen one CD that had 
JD> shareware on it.  I anyone out there knows where I can get shareware on CD 
JD> please leave me a message.   Thank You.  

There are alot of places to get them.. I have several Numbers for various 
places..:

1. Profit Press - Mega Cd-Series  Three cd's one of misc shareware, one of 
windows-os/2 shareware, one of just games! Well here is thre number..
1-800-843-7990

2. Crazy Bobs CD-Rom Mania - Don't know about this except they have a great 
selection!
1-800-776-5865

3. Walnut Creek - great Cd-S! the new Simtel '93! 
1-800-786-9907

I hope this helps!

-Exavier
The Castle
203-438-7761

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8803
  To: JOE BURKE                                Date: 12/15/93  4:27p
Subj: Adult CD trade wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Will trade you My Private Collection cd with gifs on it for
animation fantasises.

Please reply

Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8804
  To: JOSEPH DANIELS                           Date: 12/15/93  4:28p
Subj: Adult Cdroms                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I a interested in selling them.  Can you please send me more info.

YOu can netmail me at 1:2612/104 or here or send to address below.

Thanks
Scott raley
Box 76
Ridge, MD 20680
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8805
  To: JOHN VAN HARE                            Date: 12/15/93  4:29p
Subj: Amateur Models for tr                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have amatuer models cd that I will let go for $33 shipped.

If you are interested please reply.

Scott raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8806
  To: TROY JOHNSON                             Date: 12/15/93  4:30p
Subj: Amateur Models trade                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in the adult cds that you have, wanna trade?  Send
me alist of what you got.

Thanks
Scott raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8807
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/15/93  4:32p
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone have a copy of Busty Babes II that they want to sell or
trade?

Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8808
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 12/15/93  4:32p
Subj: CD Drive 4/sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey, was gone for a while due to a death of a close friend, but
have your cd and will send it tomorrow via 2nd day mail.  Sorry for
the wait.

YOu wanna trade that cdrom drive for a copy of WordPerfect 5.2 for
Windows?

Thanks
Scott
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8809
  To: JIM LARSON                               Date: 12/15/93  4:34p
Subj: CD for trade                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will trade you Amatuer Models cd for it.

PLease reply.

thanks
Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8810
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/15/93  4:34p
Subj: Cd Guide Free W/ $100+ P                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MIke I recently bought that cd from you, the cdrom of cdroms, and
installed it in windows but when the program is executed says that
it cannot find the bmp to load as the background.  The bmp is on
the cd, when I did a dir.

Any ideas?

Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8811
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 12/15/93  4:36p
Subj: CD Price List                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Great, when you are finished send one to:

Scott Raley
Box 76
Ridge, MD 20680-0076


Thanks!
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8812
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 12/15/93  4:44p
Subj: College Girls                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Whats on that College Girls thing?

Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 8813
  To: ANTHONY FURGISON                         Date: 12/15/93  4:47p
Subj: Hitachi CDROM's                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will take those two hitachis that didn't work if you still got
them.

Please reply

OR netmail crash me at 1:2612/104

Thanks
Scott Raley
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From: STEVE KRAISLER                         Number: 8814
  To: DANNY BRIGANCE                           Date: 12/17/93 12:06p
Subj: Busty babes ii                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'd rather trade them for something but if you want to buy any give me a price.

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 8815
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/15/93  9:37p
Subj: Merry Christmas                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

Even though I like to occasionally stir up some controversy (especially in THIS
echo!), I want to take time out to wish each of you a very merry Christmas, and
I hope you all have a safe and happy New Year.

Later,

Dave

P.S.  Yes... even you, Mike.


... Impeach Clinton!  (Bill, too!)

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 8816
  To: WESLEY CHEW                              Date: 12/15/93  9:41p
Subj: CD CALCULUS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Wesley!

Monday December 13 1993 03:15, Wesley Chew wrote to All:

 WC> Hi, I'm looking for a used/new copy of CD Calculus CDROM
 WC> (Calculus with Analytic Geometry 4th Edition by Howard Anton)
 WC> which is published by John Wiley & Sons. If you have a copy of
 WC> it for sale, I can be contacted at voice : (405) 359-1259
 WC> or Internet ID: wesley.chew@oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu

I have Wiley & Sons' phone number, if that would help.  I've purchased driectly
from them before, and I'm sure they'd be more than happy to take your money.

Let me know...

Dave


... I don't care about crime, I just want the guns -- Senator Metzenbaum

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From: MAX HILL                               Number: 8817
  To: CHARLIE JARMIN                           Date: 12/16/93 11:43p
Subj: BIG SKY ROM                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Charlie ;

I saw a inquiry as to why Big Sky ROM would use as you pointed out a
outdated virus scanner. At the time of the publishing of Big Sky 1 That
WAS the latest scanner out.  The new ROM will as before use the latest
scanner available, And EVERY archive will be scanned, along with every
file. Over cautious? We don't think so. Top Drawer ROM will be priced
so that every SysOp can purchase this ROM.  I am one of the producers
and we are proud of the fact that we put a good product on the market.

And to stay on topic Top Drawer pre orders $19.00, a full rom not some
400Mb update. Big Sky 1 still $26.00 , It didn't start at 39.00 or
whatever and come down as interest faded as fast as SysOps found
changed file dates etc. Again Big Sky ROMS

  Every archive scanned with the latest scanners
  Maximum compression
  BBS Ready
  True file dated archives !

The Supermart BBS 1-406-586-3774   online ordering !
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From: JIM KEULER                             Number: 8818
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/16/93 12:33p
Subj: Frobidden Subjects                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for the CD-Rom Forbidden Subjects. Anyone know where I can
get a copy of It? Call me at 414-849-2368 or leave a message on the
Oracle BBS in Chilton, WI at 414-849-7827. Thanks!

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From: G. LARRY WEBB                          Number: 8819
  To: SHANNON ADAMS                            Date: 12/16/93  4:58p
Subj: CD'S FOR TRADE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll swap you a copy of 1992 Microsoft Bookshelf (SoundBlaster OEM version...no
manual, otherwise exactly like retail version) for the Aldus Photstyler SE
CDROM.... If interested, post me here.... Thanks!!

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From: G. LARRY WEBB                          Number: 8820
  To: KEITH LOONEY                             Date: 12/16/93  5:02p
Subj: NEC DRIVER                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Here's an idea:  NEC has a BBS:  508 635 6328. Maybe it's there or info on how
to get it.... See ya'

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From: ALLEN DIETZ                            Number: 8821
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 12/17/93  4:24p
Subj: Re: Encarta for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EP>Yes, and as you said yourself, "until January 1" (well, it's actually
12/31).
EP>After that, don't expect MS to stay so generous....look at Egghead's price
fo
EP>Encarta '93 as an example.

The implied question from me and from others was why would anyone
buy it from you *now* when they can get it *now* from numerous
sources for at least $20 less.

Allen


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From: JONATHAN ROLFE                         Number: 8822
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/17/93 12:32p
Subj: QSL                                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Naturally, when I got off the phone yesterday, the UPS truck pulled up!
Thanks for taking the time to check the order, and the fast service at
your end!

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From: ROY POXON                              Number: 8823
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93  1:21p
Subj: Private Employment Net                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                      INTRODUCING CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL

     We are not a "NET" in the BBS sense of the word, but an
     international consulting group connected through our own private
     network to 23 offices throughout the world via satellite. These
     offices are, in turn, connected to some 500 participating
     associates thus providing unprecedented global coverage to our
     clients.

     We are an associate of PAI Consulting Group S.A., an international
     enterprise which specializes in providing consulting services, in     
     management and information technology, to industry, governments 
     and their agencies.

     Since the mid 1980's, we have provided human resource search 
     services to our domestic and international clients on both a
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     exceeded our expectations as a forum for both employers,
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     We have therefor decided to expand our services to encompass not
     just our client base, but all prospective applicants who wish to
     utilize our expertise to assist them in the advancement of their
     careers or locate that first all important position in industry.
     Whether you are unemployed, making career changes or simply
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     The first requirement is that you provide us with a current resume.
     For prospective employers, this document is the window into your 
     academic, professional and work background. It is probably the most 
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     discussions with many of our corporate clients it must be short, 
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     PART A

     1.   Professional and Business Education

          List all degrees, professional and technical qualifications. 
          Dates graduated or certified (if you were born prior to 1943, 
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          List all such affiliations together with certified 
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     3.   Personal

          Use the headings Birth Date (as noted above, if you were 
          born prior to 1943 we recommend that this item be omitted). 
          Marital Status (include number of children). Health 
          (necessary for international assignments). Languages. 
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     1.   Summary of Business Experience.

          A thumbnail sketch of your work and industrial experience.
          Keep this as brief as possible, no more than two paragraphs 
          of five lines each.

     2.   Work History

          One line each for dates from/to and company name; address; 
          your job title; job title of your immediate supervisor

          Brief job description and list of accomplishments.

     That's it! Brief, to the point and marketable!
                                                                               
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                               WHAT WILL IT COST?

      We are neither philanthropists nor exploiters of prospective 
      clients. We are not an employment agency and do not belong to 
      any group which purports to guarantee you a job. We do utilize 
      our extensive and exclusive national and international contacts 
      to present your credentials for specific corporate requirements, 
      for which we may be the sole source. However, we do have costs 
      associated with this service which must be recovered.

      You join Contacts International as a registered member, the six 
      month renewable registration fee for which is $75.00US and will 
      entitle you to all the rights and privileges of membership. This
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      You will also be entered anonymously into our global database 
      which presently incorporates over 3,000 job skill categories. 
      This means that you will be indexed to as many skill sets as 
      your resume dictates.

      Because of our international network you also gain world wide
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      We do reserve the right to critically review and edit your 
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      a serious candidate. We will of course mail a copy of such an 
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      When serious interest is shown in your credentials, we then 
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      employer will contact you directly. All interview arrangements, 
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      certifications, salary and fringe benefit negotiation will now
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      If you wish to become a member of Contacts International,
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      Contacts International
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      We look forward to serving you.

      CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL
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From: ROY POXON                              Number: 8824
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93  1:21p
Subj: Private Employment Net                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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                       Individual Request For Membership

      Please accept my application for membership in CONTACTS 
      INTERNATIONAL.

      Last Name:______________________First Name:____________Inits:____

      Street Address:________________________________________Apt No:___

      City:________________________State/Province:___Zip/P Code:_______

      Country:_____________________Phone No:____________________

      Are you willing to relocate:___[Y/N]

      List geographic preferences:_____________________________________

      List the types of positions you are seeking:

      _________________________________________________________________

      _________________________________________________________________

      I have read and understand the documentation entitled INTRODUCING
      CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL and agree with its contents.

      I hereby certify that the information contained in my resume 
      is true and that I have not misrepresented any facts which may be 
      used in the furtherance of my employment prospects.

      I agree to hold CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL, their heirs and
      successors, free and harmless from any and all liabilities to
      which they may be exposed due to any misrepresentation of facts
      in the information and documentation which I have provided.


      Signature:________________________Date:_____________________

      Please find enclosed my six month membership fee of $75.00US

      Payment may be made by personal cheque, money order or 
      international postal or money order.

       * * * * W A R N I N G  Do not send cash through the mail  * * * *

      Enclosure:     Resume                                        

      Thought du jour

      "I expect to pass through life but once. If therefore, there be
      any kindness I can show, or any good thing I can do to any fellow
      being, let me do it now, and not defer or neglect it, as I shall
      not pass this way again" - William Penn (1644-1718), English
      Quaker and founder of Pennsylvania.
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From: ROY POXON                              Number: 8825
  To: TIM RANDLES                              Date: 12/13/93  1:21p
Subj: Re: Africa                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Tim Randles to All about Africa on 11-14-93  13:28 <=-

 TR> I am looking for a contract in West Africa. Ghana is a desired
 TR> location. Journeman Electrician with computer skills, PLC Programming
 TR> and maintainance. Certified Arbourist and several years of experience
 TR> in both fields. Any job leads would be appreciated..

 Tim, see our communication on this base.


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From: ROY POXON                              Number: 8826
  To: MOLLY LEE                                Date: 12/13/93  1:21p
Subj: Re: Career changing                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Molly Lee to Iona Meyer about Career changing on 11-15-93  16:45
<=-

 ML> IM*Greetings Molly, I'm sorry to hear that you are in the same boat.

 ML> I think that there are a lot of folks who are in the same boat.  I've
 ML> never felt right about saying anything, keeping the frustrations
 ML> inside, until I found this conference. (smile)

 ML> IM*Thank God for BBS life supports.

 ML> Amen to that. :)

 I would like to offer you the following suggestions:

 First the bad news!
 Don't look for the good times of the '80's to return. Many of the jobs
 which have recently been removed from industry have gone for good.
 Companies are getting leaner and meaner. In this global economy they
 have no choice. All the developed countries are in the same boat.
 Fifteen million unemployed in the EEC alone. However, there IS light at
 the end of the tunnel.

 If you have the necessary skills, there ARE jobs out there.

 Companies are very particular about who they hire these days. They are
 looking for very specific skill sets and if your resume does not
 address the company's requirements, your resume gets dumped in file 13.

 I would like to suggest that, as well as replying to advertisements,
 you also list your skill sets and make a judgement as to what kinds of
 jobs you would be comfortable in and qualified to perform. You might be
 surprised at the results. It gets you away from thinking about one job
 title.

 Next, try to decide what industries you would be comfortable working
 in. That is, in which do you have experience or could easily fit into.
 To very much simplify an example, mining is much like oil and gas.
 They are both natural resource industries. Extraction methodologies
 are very similar. Only the end product is different. Again, you will
 surprise yourself with the outcome of this exercise.

 You now have two criteria: what you can do and where you can do it.

 Now comes the hard part. You have to identify those companies which
 meet your industry choices. Visit the main library and look for
 industry reference books. These will have most companies in Canada
 categorized BY industry. Who they are, where they are, what they do,
 etc. They will also have some information on corporate officers: names,
 titles and so on. Financial information may also be present. If not,
 you can look for that in Standard and Poore's, Dun and Bradstreet,
 etc., all useful sources of information. If you have trouble in
 locating what you are after, you will find that the librarian will
 be only too happy to point you in the right direction. Try to get the
 most up to date information. The best source is the main reference
 library on College Street in Toronto, but try your local main library
 first. Also ask if they maintain a newspaper cutting service. This will
 provide additional information about the companies you finally select
 to approach. Are they still in business? What changes have occurred
 over the past six months or so? There will be many questions you may
 wish to have answered.

 This research will help you to pinpoint those companies to whom you can
 send what we call BLIND LETTERS. These letters are basically
 unsolicited job applications. With the information you have gathered
 you will be in a much better position to present yourself in your
 resume and covering letter. If you get as far as an interview, all the
 better. Gives you a chance to really shine with your knowledge of the
 company. This research is very important, so take your time and don't
 be discouraged.

 Covering letters and resumes should be customized to reflect not only
 your past experience, but also your knowledge of the company you are
 writing to, their products and anything else which you can think of.
 Don't go overboard at this point, just a brief sentence or two will
 suffice. Remember, there are a lot of people out there looking for a
 job. You have to gain the advantage.

 Blind letters should NEVER be written to human resource or employment
 offices, they only get trashed, and are a waste of your time and the
 cost of the postage stamp. Always write to the head of the department
 where you would like to work - one of the results of your research.
 In our experience, most of the time you will get a reply to your
 letters, even though some of them may be a "Dear John" type. If this
 is the case, call up the person to whom you wrote and just ask him/her
 if they could give you a critique of your resume. Did they think it
 was well put together? How could it be improved upon? Now you are
 asking for their advice, not a job, and most people will be glad to
 give it to you. It doesn't cost them anything and most likely boosts
 their ego a little.

 Keep your resume down to three pages at the most. Make sure that the
 information you are presenting is brief, to the point and truthful.

 By all means use the "body shops" and "head hunters", but remember that
 they rarely interview. The majority simply send your resume in response
 to a clients request as a "fit". In other words they are paper
 shufflers. However, you might get lucky, particularly if you have a
 well written and professionally presented resume.

 Looking for and finding a job can be a frustrating and protracted
 experience. Look upon it as a learning experience. Go back to school,
 night classes if necessary. It looks good on a resume and adds to your
 marketable skill sets. It also tells a prospective employer that you
 are serious about continuing your education. A very important
 consideration. Get into a routine. Get up each morning at the same
 time, have a work plan for each day. Read those books you always meant
 to. Keep your mind active. Take regular exercise - walking, it doesn't
 have to be strenuous.

 These caveats apply if you are unemployed:

 If you are contemplating going into business for yourself, BE VERY
 CAREFUL.
 If you need financing, don't let anyone fool you into giving up equity
 in your home, you may very well loose it if your business is not
 successful! As many have learned to their dismay.
 Do not be taken in by promises of "unlimited income" in franchise
 deals. The only person making money is the person who sells you the
 franchise.
 Approach every scheme with your eyes open. Don't be taken in by vague
 and unsubstantiated claims for financial success.
 Unless you are absolutely sure of what you are getting into, keep your
 money in your pocket. Charity begins at home <G>
 Don't forget, there's no such thing as a free lunch!

 But most importantly, DO NOT DESPAIR. You are in good company.

 And remember:

                a smile costs nothing,
                there's nothing to pay
                and it might just make
                somebody's day.

 Good luck in your endeavours. Hope that the above has been of some
 assistance. Talk to me any time.. Always glad to help.

... CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL - Your window on opportunity
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From: ROY POXON                              Number: 8827
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93  1:21p
Subj: Employment Advice                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I would like to offer these suggestions to all of you out there who are
 unemployed, seeking a career change or looking for that first job.

 First the bad news!
 Don't look for the good times of the '80's to return. Many of the jobs
 which have recently been removed from industry have gone for good.
 Companies are getting leaner and meaner. In this global economy they
 have no choice. All the developed countries are in the same boat.
 Fifteen million unemployed in the EEC alone. However, there IS light at
 the end of the tunnel.

 If you have the necessary skills, there ARE jobs out there.

 Companies are very particular about who they hire these days. They are
 looking for very specific skill sets and if your resume does not
 address the company's requirements, your resume gets dumped in file 13.

 I would like to suggest that, as well as replying to advertisements,
 you also list your skill sets and make a judgement as to what kinds of
 jobs you would be comfortable in and qualified to perform. You might be
 surprised at the results. It gets you away from thinking about one job
 title.

 Next, try to decide what industries you would be comfortable working
 in. That is, in which do you have experience or could easily fit into.
 To very much simplify an example, mining is much like oil and gas.
 They are both natural resource industries. Extraction methodologies
 are very similar. Only the end product is different. Again, you will
 surprise yourself with the outcome of this exercise.

 You now have two criteria: what you can do and where you can do it.

 Now comes the hard part. You have to identify those companies which
 meet your industry choices. Visit the main library and look for
 industry reference books. These will have most companies in Canada
 categorized BY industry. Who they are, where they are, what they do,
 etc. They will also have some information on corporate officers: names,
 titles and so on. Financial information may also be present. If not,
 you can look for that in Standard and Poore's, Dun and Bradstreet,
 etc., all useful sources of information. If you have trouble in
 locating what you are after, you will find that the librarian will
 be only too happy to point you in the right direction. Try to get the
 most up to date information. The best source is the main reference
 library on College Street in Toronto, but try your local main library
 first. Also ask if they maintain a newspaper cutting service. This will
 provide additional information about the companies you finally select
 to approach. Are they still in business? What changes have occurred
 over the past six months or so? There will be many questions you may
 wish to have answered.

 This research will help you to pinpoint those companies to whom you can
 send what we call BLIND LETTERS. These letters are basically
 unsolicited job applications. With the information you have gathered
 you will be in a much better position to present yourself in your
 resume and covering letter. If you get as far as an interview, all the
 better. Gives you a chance to really shine with your knowledge of the
 company. This research is very important, so take your time and don't
 be discouraged.

 Covering letters and resumes should be customized to reflect not only
 your past experience, but also your knowledge of the company you are
 writing to, their products and anything else which you can think of.
 Don't go overboard at this point, just a brief sentence or two will
 suffice. Remember, there are a lot of people out there looking for a
 job. You have to gain the advantage.

 Blind letters should NEVER be written to human resource or employment
 offices, they only get trashed, and are a waste of your time and the
 cost of the postage stamp. Always write to the head of the department
 where you would like to work - one of the results of your research.
 In our experience, most of the time you will get a reply to your
 letters, even though some of them may be a "Dear John" type. If this
 is the case, call up the person to whom you wrote and just ask him/her
 if they could give you a critique of your resume. Did they think it
 was well put together? How could it be improved upon? Now you are
 asking for their advice, not a job, and most people will be glad to
 give it to you. It doesn't cost them anything and most likely boosts
 their ego a little.

 Keep your resume down to three pages at the most. Make sure that the
 information you are presenting is brief, to the point and truthful.

 By all means use the "body shops" and "head hunters", but remember that
 they rarely interview. The majority simply send your resume in response
 to a clients request as a "fit". In other words they are paper
 shufflers. However, you might get lucky, particularly if you have a
 well written and professionally presented resume.

 Looking for and finding a job can be a frustrating and protracted
 experience. Look upon it as a learning experience. Go back to school,
 night classes if necessary. It looks good on a resume and adds to your
 marketable skill sets. It also tells a prospective employer that you
 are serious about continuing your education. A very important
 consideration. Get into a routine. Get up each morning at the same
 time, have a work plan for each day. Read those books you always meant
 to. Keep your mind active. Take regular exercise - walking, it doesn't
 have to be strenuous.

 These caveats apply to those who are unemployed:

 If you are contemplating going into business for yourself, BE VERY
 CAREFUL.
 If you need financing, don't let anyone fool you into giving up equity
 in your home, you may very well loose it if your business is not
 successful! As many have learned to their dismay.
 Do not be taken in by promises of "unlimited income" in franchise
 deals. The only person making money is the person who sells you the
 franchise.
 Approach every scheme with your eyes open. Don't be taken in by vague
 and unsubstantiated claims for financial success.
 Unless you are absolutely sure of what you are getting into, keep your
 money in your pocket. Charity begins at home <G>
 Don't forget, there's no such thing as a free lunch!

 But most importantly, DO NOT DESPAIR. You are in good company.

 And remember:

                a smile costs nothing,
                there's nothing to pay
                and it might just make
                somebody's day.

 Good luck in your endeavours. Hope that the above has been of some
 assistance. Talk to me any time.. Always glad to help.

... CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL - Your window on opportunity  
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From: ROY POXON                              Number: 8828
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93  6:44p
Subj: Private Employment Net                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                      INTRODUCING CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL

     We are not a "NET" in the BBS sense of the word, but an
     international consulting group connected through our own private
     network to 23 offices throughout the world via satellite. These
     offices are, in turn, connected to some 500 participating
     associates thus providing unprecedented global coverage to our
     clients.

     We are an associate of PAI Consulting Group S.A., an international
     enterprise which specializes in providing consulting services, in     
     management and information technology, to industry, governments 
     and their agencies.

     Since the mid 1980's, we have provided human resource search 
     services to our domestic and international clients on both a
     retainer and fee for service basis. To date, this associate has
     exceeded our expectations as a forum for both employers,
     employees and contractors.

     We have therefor decided to expand our services to encompass not
     just our client base, but all prospective applicants who wish to
     utilize our expertise to assist them in the advancement of their
     careers or locate that first all important position in industry.
     Whether you are unemployed, making career changes or simply
     looking for new challenges we offer you effective local, national
     and international exposure to employers.

     The first requirement is that you provide us with a current resume.
     For prospective employers, this document is the window into your 
     academic, professional and work background. It is probably the most 
     important essay that you will ever write. As a result of 
     discussions with many of our corporate clients it must be short, 
     to the point and consist of not more than three pages. This is a 
     challenge, but we know from experience that anything longer will 
     simply not attract the attention of a president or human resource 
     manager. We recommend that it be categorized as follows:

     PART A

     1.   Professional and Business Education

          List all degrees, professional and technical qualifications. 
          Dates graduated or certified (if you were born prior to 1943, 
          this may be omitted). Names of universities and/or trade 
          schools attended.

     2.   Professional Associations

          List all such affiliations together with certified 
          designations, e.g. CMC, CCC, CIA, etc.

     3.   Personal

          Use the headings Birth Date (as noted above, if you were 
          born prior to 1943 we recommend that this item be omitted). 
          Marital Status (include number of children). Health 
          (necessary for international assignments). Languages. 
          Mobility.

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     PART B

     1.   Summary of Business Experience.

          A thumbnail sketch of your work and industrial experience.
          Keep this as brief as possible, no more than two paragraphs 
          of five lines each.

     2.   Work History

          One line each for dates from/to and company name; address; 
          your job title; job title of your immediate supervisor

          Brief job description and list of accomplishments.

     That's it! Brief, to the point and marketable!
                                                                               
         INTRODUCING CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL
                               WHAT WILL IT COST?

      We are neither philanthropists nor exploiters of prospective 
      clients. We are not an employment agency and do not belong to 
      any group which purports to guarantee you a job. We do utilize 
      our extensive and exclusive national and international contacts 
      to present your credentials for specific corporate requirements, 
      for which we may be the sole source. However, we do have costs 
      associated with this service which must be recovered.

      You join Contacts International as a registered member, the six 
      month renewable registration fee for which is $75.00US and will 
      entitle you to all the rights and privileges of membership. This
      is less than 42 cents a day for us to effectively market your
      abilities.

      You will also be entered anonymously into our global database 
      which presently incorporates over 3,000 job skill categories. 
      This means that you will be indexed to as many skill sets as 
      your resume dictates.

      Because of our international network you also gain world wide
      exposure to prospective employers who regularly browse our 
      database. One important privilege of membership.

      We do reserve the right to critically review and edit your 
      resume in order to render it more acceptable to prospective 
      employers. This will increase your chances of being accepted as 
      a serious candidate. We will of course mail a copy of such an 
      amended resume for your written approval if the need arises.

      When serious interest is shown in your credentials, we then 
      provide the corporate client with your personal information - 
      name and phone number only. If requests are made through our 
      network, your anonymous resume will be posted as Email. This
      procedure is followed for the protection of your privacy.
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      We then step back from the process and the prospective 
      employer will contact you directly. All interview arrangements, 
      provision of references, copies of degrees and/or professional
      certifications, salary and fringe benefit negotiation will now
      become your responsibility. We only request that you keep us
      informed of your progress and ultimate employment so that we may
      purge our records.

      If you wish to become a member of Contacts International,
      please complete and mail the attached application form together 
      with a copy of your resume (preferably laser printed) and your
      six month membership fee to:

      Contacts International
      c/o PAI Consulting Group S.A.
      Box CI
      2267 Duncaster Drive
      Burlington, Ontario
      CANADA L7P 4P3

      We look forward to serving you.

      CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL
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From: ROY POXON                              Number: 8829
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93  6:44p
Subj: Private Employment Net                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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                       Individual Request For Membership

      Please accept my application for membership in CONTACTS 
      INTERNATIONAL.

      Last Name:______________________First Name:____________Inits:____

      Street Address:________________________________________Apt No:___

      City:________________________State/Province:___Zip/P Code:_______

      Country:_____________________Phone No:____________________

      Are you willing to relocate:___[Y/N]

      List geographic preferences:_____________________________________

      List the types of positions you are seeking:

      _________________________________________________________________

      _________________________________________________________________

      I have read and understand the documentation entitled INTRODUCING
      CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL and agree with its contents.

      I hereby certify that the information contained in my resume 
      is true and that I have not misrepresented any facts which may be 
      used in the furtherance of my employment prospects.

      I agree to hold CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL, their heirs and
      successors, free and harmless from any and all liabilities to
      which they may be exposed due to any misrepresentation of facts
      in the information and documentation which I have provided.


      Signature:________________________Date:_____________________

      Please find enclosed my six month membership fee of $75.00US

      Payment may be made by personal cheque, money order or 
      international postal or money order.

       * * * * W A R N I N G  Do not send cash through the mail  * * * *

      Enclosure:     Resume                                        

      Thought du jour

      "I expect to pass through life but once. If therefore, there be
      any kindness I can show, or any good thing I can do to any fellow
      being, let me do it now, and not defer or neglect it, as I shall
      not pass this way again" - William Penn (1644-1718), English
      Quaker and founder of Pennsylvania.
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From: ROY POXON                              Number: 8830
  To: TIM RANDLES                              Date: 12/13/93  6:44p
Subj: Re: Africa                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Tim Randles to All about Africa on 11-14-93  13:28 <=-

 TR> I am looking for a contract in West Africa. Ghana is a desired
 TR> location. Journeman Electrician with computer skills, PLC Programming
 TR> and maintainance. Certified Arbourist and several years of experience
 TR> in both fields. Any job leads would be appreciated..

 Tim, see our communication on this base.


... CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL - Your window on opportunity
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From: ROY POXON                              Number: 8831
  To: MOLLY LEE                                Date: 12/13/93  6:45p
Subj: Re: Career changing                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Molly Lee to Iona Meyer about Career changing on 11-15-93  16:45
<=-

 ML> IM*Greetings Molly, I'm sorry to hear that you are in the same boat.

 ML> I think that there are a lot of folks who are in the same boat.  I've
 ML> never felt right about saying anything, keeping the frustrations
 ML> inside, until I found this conference. (smile)

 ML> IM*Thank God for BBS life supports.

 ML> Amen to that. :)

 I would like to offer you the following suggestions:

 First the bad news!
 Don't look for the good times of the '80's to return. Many of the jobs
 which have recently been removed from industry have gone for good.
 Companies are getting leaner and meaner. In this global economy they
 have no choice. All the developed countries are in the same boat.
 Fifteen million unemployed in the EEC alone. However, there IS light at
 the end of the tunnel.

 If you have the necessary skills, there ARE jobs out there.

 Companies are very particular about who they hire these days. They are
 looking for very specific skill sets and if your resume does not
 address the company's requirements, your resume gets dumped in file 13.

 I would like to suggest that, as well as replying to advertisements,
 you also list your skill sets and make a judgement as to what kinds of
 jobs you would be comfortable in and qualified to perform. You might be
 surprised at the results. It gets you away from thinking about one job
 title.

 Next, try to decide what industries you would be comfortable working
 in. That is, in which do you have experience or could easily fit into.
 To very much simplify an example, mining is much like oil and gas.
 They are both natural resource industries. Extraction methodologies
 are very similar. Only the end product is different. Again, you will
 surprise yourself with the outcome of this exercise.

 You now have two criteria: what you can do and where you can do it.

 Now comes the hard part. You have to identify those companies which
 meet your industry choices. Visit the main library and look for
 industry reference books. These will have most companies in Canada
 categorized BY industry. Who they are, where they are, what they do,
 etc. They will also have some information on corporate officers: names,
 titles and so on. Financial information may also be present. If not,
 you can look for that in Standard and Poore's, Dun and Bradstreet,
 etc., all useful sources of information. If you have trouble in
 locating what you are after, you will find that the librarian will
 be only too happy to point you in the right direction. Try to get the
 most up to date information. The best source is the main reference
 library on College Street in Toronto, but try your local main library
 first. Also ask if they maintain a newspaper cutting service. This will
 provide additional information about the companies you finally select
 to approach. Are they still in business? What changes have occurred
 over the past six months or so? There will be many questions you may
 wish to have answered.

 This research will help you to pinpoint those companies to whom you can
 send what we call BLIND LETTERS. These letters are basically
 unsolicited job applications. With the information you have gathered
 you will be in a much better position to present yourself in your
 resume and covering letter. If you get as far as an interview, all the
 better. Gives you a chance to really shine with your knowledge of the
 company. This research is very important, so take your time and don't
 be discouraged.

 Covering letters and resumes should be customized to reflect not only
 your past experience, but also your knowledge of the company you are
 writing to, their products and anything else which you can think of.
 Don't go overboard at this point, just a brief sentence or two will
 suffice. Remember, there are a lot of people out there looking for a
 job. You have to gain the advantage.

 Blind letters should NEVER be written to human resource or employment
 offices, they only get trashed, and are a waste of your time and the
 cost of the postage stamp. Always write to the head of the department
 where you would like to work - one of the results of your research.
 In our experience, most of the time you will get a reply to your
 letters, even though some of them may be a "Dear John" type. If this
 is the case, call up the person to whom you wrote and just ask him/her
 if they could give you a critique of your resume. Did they think it
 was well put together? How could it be improved upon? Now you are
 asking for their advice, not a job, and most people will be glad to
 give it to you. It doesn't cost them anything and most likely boosts
 their ego a little.

 Keep your resume down to three pages at the most. Make sure that the
 information you are presenting is brief, to the point and truthful.

 By all means use the "body shops" and "head hunters", but remember that
 they rarely interview. The majority simply send your resume in response
 to a clients request as a "fit". In other words they are paper
 shufflers. However, you might get lucky, particularly if you have a
 well written and professionally presented resume.

 Looking for and finding a job can be a frustrating and protracted
 experience. Look upon it as a learning experience. Go back to school,
 night classes if necessary. It looks good on a resume and adds to your
 marketable skill sets. It also tells a prospective employer that you
 are serious about continuing your education. A very important
 consideration. Get into a routine. Get up each morning at the same
 time, have a work plan for each day. Read those books you always meant
 to. Keep your mind active. Take regular exercise - walking, it doesn't
 have to be strenuous.

 These caveats apply if you are unemployed:

 If you are contemplating going into business for yourself, BE VERY
 CAREFUL.
 If you need financing, don't let anyone fool you into giving up equity
 in your home, you may very well loose it if your business is not
 successful! As many have learned to their dismay.
 Do not be taken in by promises of "unlimited income" in franchise
 deals. The only person making money is the person who sells you the
 franchise.
 Approach every scheme with your eyes open. Don't be taken in by vague
 and unsubstantiated claims for financial success.
 Unless you are absolutely sure of what you are getting into, keep your
 money in your pocket. Charity begins at home <G>
 Don't forget, there's no such thing as a free lunch!

 But most importantly, DO NOT DESPAIR. You are in good company.

 And remember:

                a smile costs nothing,
                there's nothing to pay
                and it might just make
                somebody's day.

 Good luck in your endeavours. Hope that the above has been of some
 assistance. Talk to me any time.. Always glad to help.

... CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL - Your window on opportunity
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
--- T.A.G. 2.6f2a Beta
 * Origin: The Gatehouse BBS * (905)528-0635/0636 * WHQ BBCNet (1:244/119)
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From: ROY POXON                              Number: 8832
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93  6:45p
Subj: Employment Advice                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I would like to offer these suggestions to all of you out there who are
 unemployed, seeking a career change or looking for that first job.

 First the bad news!
 Don't look for the good times of the '80's to return. Many of the jobs
 which have recently been removed from industry have gone for good.
 Companies are getting leaner and meaner. In this global economy they
 have no choice. All the developed countries are in the same boat.
 Fifteen million unemployed in the EEC alone. However, there IS light at
 the end of the tunnel.

 If you have the necessary skills, there ARE jobs out there.

 Companies are very particular about who they hire these days. They are
 looking for very specific skill sets and if your resume does not
 address the company's requirements, your resume gets dumped in file 13.

 I would like to suggest that, as well as replying to advertisements,
 you also list your skill sets and make a judgement as to what kinds of
 jobs you would be comfortable in and qualified to perform. You might be
 surprised at the results. It gets you away from thinking about one job
 title.

 Next, try to decide what industries you would be comfortable working
 in. That is, in which do you have experience or could easily fit into.
 To very much simplify an example, mining is much like oil and gas.
 They are both natural resource industries. Extraction methodologies
 are very similar. Only the end product is different. Again, you will
 surprise yourself with the outcome of this exercise.

 You now have two criteria: what you can do and where you can do it.

 Now comes the hard part. You have to identify those companies which
 meet your industry choices. Visit the main library and look for
 industry reference books. These will have most companies in Canada
 categorized BY industry. Who they are, where they are, what they do,
 etc. They will also have some information on corporate officers: names,
 titles and so on. Financial information may also be present. If not,
 you can look for that in Standard and Poore's, Dun and Bradstreet,
 etc., all useful sources of information. If you have trouble in
 locating what you are after, you will find that the librarian will
 be only too happy to point you in the right direction. Try to get the
 most up to date information. The best source is the main reference
 library on College Street in Toronto, but try your local main library
 first. Also ask if they maintain a newspaper cutting service. This will
 provide additional information about the companies you finally select
 to approach. Are they still in business? What changes have occurred
 over the past six months or so? There will be many questions you may
 wish to have answered.

 This research will help you to pinpoint those companies to whom you can
 send what we call BLIND LETTERS. These letters are basically
 unsolicited job applications. With the information you have gathered
 you will be in a much better position to present yourself in your
 resume and covering letter. If you get as far as an interview, all the
 better. Gives you a chance to really shine with your knowledge of the
 company. This research is very important, so take your time and don't
 be discouraged.

 Covering letters and resumes should be customized to reflect not only
 your past experience, but also your knowledge of the company you are
 writing to, their products and anything else which you can think of.
 Don't go overboard at this point, just a brief sentence or two will
 suffice. Remember, there are a lot of people out there looking for a
 job. You have to gain the advantage.

 Blind letters should NEVER be written to human resource or employment
 offices, they only get trashed, and are a waste of your time and the
 cost of the postage stamp. Always write to the head of the department
 where you would like to work - one of the results of your research.
 In our experience, most of the time you will get a reply to your
 letters, even though some of them may be a "Dear John" type. If this
 is the case, call up the person to whom you wrote and just ask him/her
 if they could give you a critique of your resume. Did they think it
 was well put together? How could it be improved upon? Now you are
 asking for their advice, not a job, and most people will be glad to
 give it to you. It doesn't cost them anything and most likely boosts
 their ego a little.

 Keep your resume down to three pages at the most. Make sure that the
 information you are presenting is brief, to the point and truthful.

 By all means use the "body shops" and "head hunters", but remember that
 they rarely interview. The majority simply send your resume in response
 to a clients request as a "fit". In other words they are paper
 shufflers. However, you might get lucky, particularly if you have a
 well written and professionally presented resume.

 Looking for and finding a job can be a frustrating and protracted
 experience. Look upon it as a learning experience. Go back to school,
 night classes if necessary. It looks good on a resume and adds to your
 marketable skill sets. It also tells a prospective employer that you
 are serious about continuing your education. A very important
 consideration. Get into a routine. Get up each morning at the same
 time, have a work plan for each day. Read those books you always meant
 to. Keep your mind active. Take regular exercise - walking, it doesn't
 have to be strenuous.

 These caveats apply to those who are unemployed:

 If you are contemplating going into business for yourself, BE VERY
 CAREFUL.
 If you need financing, don't let anyone fool you into giving up equity
 in your home, you may very well loose it if your business is not
 successful! As many have learned to their dismay.
 Do not be taken in by promises of "unlimited income" in franchise
 deals. The only person making money is the person who sells you the
 franchise.
 Approach every scheme with your eyes open. Don't be taken in by vague
 and unsubstantiated claims for financial success.
 Unless you are absolutely sure of what you are getting into, keep your
 money in your pocket. Charity begins at home <G>
 Don't forget, there's no such thing as a free lunch!

 But most importantly, DO NOT DESPAIR. You are in good company.

 And remember:

                a smile costs nothing,
                there's nothing to pay
                and it might just make
                somebody's day.

 Good luck in your endeavours. Hope that the above has been of some
 assistance. Talk to me any time.. Always glad to help.

... CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL - Your window on opportunity  
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
--- T.A.G. 2.6f2a Beta
 * Origin: The Gatehouse BBS * (905)528-0635/0636 * WHQ BBCNet (1:244/119)
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From: ROY POXON                              Number: 8833
  To: TIM RANDLES                              Date: 12/13/93  6:45p
Subj: Re:Africa                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Tim Randles to All about Africa on 11-14-93  13:28 <=-

 TR> I am looking for a contract in West Africa. Ghana is a desired
 TR> location. Journeman Electrician with computer skills, PLC Programming
 TR> and maintainance. Certified Arbourist and several years of experience
 TR> in both fields. Any job leads would be appreciated..

 Tim, see our communication on this base.


... CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL - Your window on opportunity

... Catch the Blue Wave!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
--- T.A.G. 2.6f2a Beta
 * Origin: The Gatehouse BBS * (905)528-0635/0636 * WHQ BBCNet (1:244/119)
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From: ROY POXON                              Number: 8834
  To: MOLLY LEE                                Date: 12/13/93  6:45p
Subj: Re:Career changing                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Molly Lee to Iona Meyer about Career changing on 11-15-93  16:45
<=-

 ML> IM*Greetings Molly, I'm sorry to hear that you are in the same boat.

 ML> I think that there are a lot of folks who are in the same boat.  I've
 ML> never felt right about saying anything, keeping the frustrations
 ML> inside, until I found this conference. (smile)

 ML> IM*Thank God for BBS life supports.

 ML> Amen to that. :)

 I would like to offer you the following suggestions:

 First the bad news!
 Don't look for the good times of the '80's to return. Many of the jobs
 which have recently been removed from industry have gone for good.
 Companies are getting leaner and meaner. In this global economy they
 have no choice. All the developed countries are in the same boat.
 Fifteen million unemployed in the EEC alone. However, there IS light at
 the end of the tunnel.

 If you have the necessary skills, there ARE jobs out there.

 Companies are very particular about who they hire these days. They are
 looking for very specific skill sets and if your resume does not
 address the company's requirements, your resume gets dumped in file 13.

 I would like to suggest that, as well as replying to advertisements,
 you also list your skill sets and make a judgement as to what kinds of
 jobs you would be comfortable in and qualified to perform. You might be
 surprised at the results. It gets you away from thinking about one job
 title.

 Next, try to decide what industries you would be comfortable working
 in. That is, in which do you have experience or could easily fit into.
 To very much simplify an example, mining is much like oil and gas.
 They are both natural resource industries. Extraction methodologies
 are very similar. Only the end product is different. Again, you will
 surprise yourself with the outcome of this exercise.

 You now have two criteria: what you can do and where you can do it.

 Now comes the hard part. You have to identify those companies which
 meet your industry choices. Visit the main library and look for
 industry reference books. These will have most companies in Canada
 categorized BY industry. Who they are, where they are, what they do,
 etc. They will also have some information on corporate officers: names,
 titles and so on. Financial information may also be present. If not,
 you can look for that in Standard and Poore's, Dun and Bradstreet,
 etc., all useful sources of information. If you have trouble in
 locating what you are after, you will find that the librarian will
 be only too happy to point you in the right direction. Try to get the
 most up to date information. The best source is the main reference
 library on College Street in Toronto, but try your local main library
 first. Also ask if they maintain a newspaper cutting service. This will
 provide additional information about the companies you finally select
 to approach. Are they still in business? What changes have occurred
 over the past six months or so? There will be many questions you may
 wish to have answered.

 This research will help you to pinpoint those companies to whom you can
 send what we call BLIND LETTERS. These letters are basically
 unsolicited job applications. With the information you have gathered
 you will be in a much better position to present yourself in your
 resume and covering letter. If you get as far as an interview, all the
 better. Gives you a chance to really shine with your knowledge of the
 company. This research is very important, so take your time and don't
 be discouraged.

 Covering letters and resumes should be customized to reflect not only
 your past experience, but also your knowledge of the company you are
 writing to, their products and anything else which you can think of.
 Don't go overboard at this point, just a brief sentence or two will
 suffice. Remember, there are a lot of people out there looking for a
 job. You have to gain the advantage.

 Blind letters should NEVER be written to human resource or employment
 offices, they only get trashed, and are a waste of your time and the
 cost of the postage stamp. Always write to the head of the department
 where you would like to work - one of the results of your research.
 In our experience, most of the time you will get a reply to your
 letters, even though some of them may be a "Dear John" type. If this
 is the case, call up the person to whom you wrote and just ask him/her
 if they could give you a critique of your resume. Did they think it
 was well put together? How could it be improved upon? Now you are
 asking for their advice, not a job, and most people will be glad to
 give it to you. It doesn't cost them anything and most likely boosts
 their ego a little.

 Keep your resume down to three pages at the most. Make sure that the
 information you are presenting is brief, to the point and truthful.

 By all means use the "body shops" and "head hunters", but remember that
 they rarely interview. The majority simply send your resume in response
 to a clients request as a "fit". In other words they are paper
 shufflers. However, you might get lucky, particularly if you have a
 well written and professionally presented resume.

 Looking for and finding a job can be a frustrating and protracted
 experience. Look upon it as a learning experience. Go back to school,
 night classes if necessary. It looks good on a resume and adds to your
 marketable skill sets. It also tells a prospective employer that you
 are serious about continuing your education. A very important
 consideration. Get into a routine. Get up each morning at the same
 time, have a work plan for each day. Read those books you always meant
 to. Keep your mind active. Take regular exercise - walking, it doesn't
 have to be strenuous.

 These caveats apply if you are unemployed:

 If you are contemplating going into business for yourself, BE VERY
 CAREFUL.
 If you need financing, don't let anyone fool you into giving up equity
 in your home, you may very well loose it if your business is not
 successful! As many have learned to their dismay.
 Do not be taken in by promises of "unlimited income" in franchise
 deals. The only person making money is the person who sells you the
 franchise.
 Approach every scheme with your eyes open. Don't be taken in by vague
 and unsubstantiated claims for financial success.
 Unless you are absolutely sure of what you are getting into, keep your
 money in your pocket. Charity begins at home <G>
 Don't forget, there's no such thing as a free lunch!

 But most importantly, DO NOT DESPAIR. You are in good company.

 And remember:

                a smile costs nothing,
                there's nothing to pay
                and it might just make
                somebody's day.

 Good luck in your endeavours. Hope that the above has been of some
 assistance. Talk to me any time.. Always glad to help.

... CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL - Your window on opportunity

... Catch the Blue Wave!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
--- T.A.G. 2.6f2a Beta
 * Origin: The Gatehouse BBS * (905)528-0635/0636 * WHQ BBCNet (1:244/119)


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From: ROY POXON                              Number: 8835
  To: MOLLY LEE                                Date: 12/13/93  6:45p
Subj: Re:Career changing                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: ROY POXON                              Number: 8836
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93  6:45p
Subj: Employment Advice                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I would like to offer these suggestions to all of you out there who are
 unemployed, seeking a career change or looking for that first job.

 First the bad news!
 Don't look for the good times of the '80's to return. Many of the jobs
 which have recently been removed from industry have gone for good.
 Companies are getting leaner and meaner. In this global economy they
 have no choice. All the developed countries are in the same boat.
 Fifteen million unemployed in the EEC alone. However, there IS light at
 the end of the tunnel.

 If you have the necessary skills, there ARE jobs out there.

 Companies are very particular about who they hire these days. They are
 looking for very specific skill sets and if your resume does not
 address the company's requirements, your resume gets dumped in file 13.

 I would like to suggest that, as well as replying to advertisements,
 you also list your skill sets and make a judgement as to what kinds of
 jobs you would be comfortable in and qualified to perform. You might be
 surprised at the results. It gets you away from thinking about one job
 title.

 Next, try to decide what industries you would be comfortable working
 in. That is, in which do you have experience or could easily fit into.
 To very much simplify an example, mining is much like oil and gas.
 They are both natural resource industries. Extraction methodologies
 are very similar. Only the end product is different. Again, you will
 surprise yourself with the outcome of this exercise.

 You now have two criteria: what you can do and where you can do it.

 Now comes the hard part. You have to identify those companies which
 meet your industry choices. Visit the main library and look for
 industry reference books. These will have most companies in Canada
 categorized BY industry. Who they are, where they are, what they do,
 etc. They will also have some information on corporate officers: names,
 titles and so on. Financial information may also be present. If not,
 you can look for that in Standard and Poore's, Dun and Bradstreet,
 etc., all useful sources of information. If you have trouble in
 locating what you are after, you will find that the librarian will
 be only too happy to point you in the right direction. Try to get the
 most up to date information. The best source is the main reference
 library on College Street in Toronto, but try your local main library
 first. Also ask if they maintain a newspaper cutting service. This will
 provide additional information about the companies you finally select
 to approach. Are they still in business? What changes have occurred
 over the past six months or so? There will be many questions you may
 wish to have answered.

 This research will help you to pinpoint those companies to whom you can
 send what we call BLIND LETTERS. These letters are basically
 unsolicited job applications. With the information you have gathered
 you will be in a much better position to present yourself in your
 resume and covering letter. If you get as far as an interview, all the
 better. Gives you a chance to really shine with your knowledge of the
 company. This research is very important, so take your time and don't
 be discouraged.

 Covering letters and resumes should be customized to reflect not only
 your past experience, but also your knowledge of the company you are
 writing to, their products and anything else which you can think of.
 Don't go overboard at this point, just a brief sentence or two will
 suffice. Remember, there are a lot of people out there looking for a
 job. You have to gain the advantage.

 Blind letters should NEVER be written to human resource or employment
 offices, they only get trashed, and are a waste of your time and the
 cost of the postage stamp. Always write to the head of the department
 where you would like to work - one of the results of your research.
 In our experience, most of the time you will get a reply to your
 letters, even though some of them may be a "Dear John" type. If this
 is the case, call up the person to whom you wrote and just ask him/her
 if they could give you a critique of your resume. Did they think it
 was well put together? How could it be improved upon? Now you are
 asking for their advice, not a job, and most people will be glad to
 give it to you. It doesn't cost them anything and most likely boosts
 their ego a little.

 Keep your resume down to three pages at the most. Make sure that the
 information you are presenting is brief, to the point and truthful.

 By all means use the "body shops" and "head hunters", but remember that
 they rarely interview. The majority simply send your resume in response
 to a clients request as a "fit". In other words they are paper
 shufflers. However, you might get lucky, particularly if you have a
 well written and professionally presented resume.

 Looking for and finding a job can be a frustrating and protracted
 experience. Look upon it as a learning experience. Go back to school,
 night classes if necessary. It looks good on a resume and adds to your
 marketable skill sets. It also tells a prospective employer that you
 are serious about continuing your education. A very important
 consideration. Get into a routine. Get up each morning at the same
 time, have a work plan for each day. Read those books you always meant
 to. Keep your mind active. Take regular exercise - walking, it doesn't
 have to be strenuous.

 These caveats apply to those who are unemployed:

 If you are contemplating going into business for yourself, BE VERY
 CAREFUL.
 If you need financing, don't let anyone fool you into giving up equity
 in your home, you may very well loose it if your business is not
 successful! As many have learned to their dismay.
 Do not be taken in by promises of "unlimited income" in franchise
 deals. The only person making money is the person who sells you the
 franchise.
 Approach every scheme with your eyes open. Don't be taken in by vague
 and unsubstantiated claims for financial success.
 Unless you are absolutely sure of what you are getting into, keep your
 money in your pocket. Charity begins at home <G>
 Don't forget, there's no such thing as a free lunch!

 But most importantly, DO NOT DESPAIR. You are in good company.

 And remember:

                a smile costs nothing,
                there's nothing to pay
                and it might just make
                somebody's day.

 Good luck in your endeavours. Hope that the above has been of some
 assistance. Talk to me any time.. Always glad to help.

... CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL - Your window on opportunity

... Catch the Blue Wave!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
--- T.A.G. 2.6f2a Beta
 * Origin: The Gatehouse BBS * (905)528-0635/0636 * WHQ BBCNet (1:244/119)
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From: ROY POXON                              Number: 8837
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/15/93 10:43a
Subj: Private Employment Net                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                      INTRODUCING CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL

     We are not a "NET" in the BBS sense of the word, but an
     international consulting group connected through our own private
     network to 23 offices throughout the world via satellite. These
     offices are, in turn, connected to some 500 participating
     associates thus providing unprecedented global coverage to our
     clients.

     We are an associate of PAI Consulting Group S.A., an international
     enterprise which specializes in providing consulting services, in     
     management and information technology, to industry, governments 
     and their agencies.

     Since the mid 1980's, we have provided human resource search 
     services to our domestic and international clients on both a
     retainer and fee for service basis. To date, this associate has
     exceeded our expectations as a forum for both employers,
     employees and contractors.

     We have therefor decided to expand our services to encompass not
     just our client base, but all prospective applicants who wish to
     utilize our expertise to assist them in the advancement of their
     careers or locate that first all important position in industry.
     Whether you are unemployed, making career changes or simply
     looking for new challenges we offer you effective local, national
     and international exposure to employers.

     The first requirement is that you provide us with a current resume.
     For prospective employers, this document is the window into your 
     academic, professional and work background. It is probably the most 
     important essay that you will ever write. As a result of 
     discussions with many of our corporate clients it must be short, 
     to the point and consist of not more than three pages. This is a 
     challenge, but we know from experience that anything longer will 
     simply not attract the attention of a president or human resource 
     manager. We recommend that it be categorized as follows:

     PART A

     1.   Professional and Business Education

          List all degrees, professional and technical qualifications. 
          Dates graduated or certified (if you were born prior to 1943, 
          this may be omitted). Names of universities and/or trade 
          schools attended.

     2.   Professional Associations

          List all such affiliations together with certified 
          designations, e.g. CMC, CCC, CIA, etc.

     3.   Personal

          Use the headings Birth Date (as noted above, if you were 
          born prior to 1943 we recommend that this item be omitted). 
          Marital Status (include number of children). Health 
          (necessary for international assignments). Languages. 
          Mobility.

                                                                    1/4

     PART B

     1.   Summary of Business Experience.

          A thumbnail sketch of your work and industrial experience.
          Keep this as brief as possible, no more than two paragraphs 
          of five lines each.

     2.   Work History

          One line each for dates from/to and company name; address; 
          your job title; job title of your immediate supervisor

          Brief job description and list of accomplishments.

     That's it! Brief, to the point and marketable!
                                                                               
         INTRODUCING CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL
                               WHAT WILL IT COST?

      We are neither philanthropists nor exploiters of prospective 
      clients. We are not an employment agency and do not belong to 
      any group which purports to guarantee you a job. We do utilize 
      our extensive and exclusive national and international contacts 
      to present your credentials for specific corporate requirements, 
      for which we may be the sole source. However, we do have costs 
      associated with this service which must be recovered.

      You join Contacts International as a registered member, the six 
      month renewable registration fee for which is $75.00US and will 
      entitle you to all the rights and privileges of membership. This
      is less than 42 cents a day for us to effectively market your
      abilities.

      You will also be entered anonymously into our global database 
      which presently incorporates over 3,000 job skill categories. 
      This means that you will be indexed to as many skill sets as 
      your resume dictates.

      Because of our international network you also gain world wide
      exposure to prospective employers who regularly browse our 
      database. One important privilege of membership.

      We do reserve the right to critically review and edit your 
      resume in order to render it more acceptable to prospective 
      employers. This will increase your chances of being accepted as 
      a serious candidate. We will of course mail a copy of such an 
      amended resume for your written approval if the need arises.

      When serious interest is shown in your credentials, we then 
      provide the corporate client with your personal information - 
      name and phone number only. If requests are made through our 
      network, your anonymous resume will be posted as Email. This
      procedure is followed for the protection of your privacy.
                                                                   2/4

      We then step back from the process and the prospective 
      employer will contact you directly. All interview arrangements, 
      provision of references, copies of degrees and/or professional
      certifications, salary and fringe benefit negotiation will now
      become your responsibility. We only request that you keep us
      informed of your progress and ultimate employment so that we may
      purge our records.

      If you wish to become a member of Contacts International,
      please complete and mail the attached application form together 
      with a copy of your resume (preferably laser printed) and your
      six month membership fee to:

      Contacts International
      c/o PAI Consulting Group S.A.
      Box CI
      2267 Duncaster Drive
      Burlington, Ontario
      CANADA L7P 4P3

      We look forward to serving you.

      CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL
                                                                    3/4

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From: ROY POXON                              Number: 8838
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/15/93 10:43a
Subj: Private Employment Net                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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                       Individual Request For Membership

      Please accept my application for membership in CONTACTS 
      INTERNATIONAL.

      Last Name:______________________First Name:____________Inits:____

      Street Address:________________________________________Apt No:___

      City:________________________State/Province:___Zip/P Code:_______

      Country:_____________________Phone No:____________________

      Are you willing to relocate:___[Y/N]

      List geographic preferences:_____________________________________

      List the types of positions you are seeking:

      _________________________________________________________________

      _________________________________________________________________

      I have read and understand the documentation entitled INTRODUCING
      CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL and agree with its contents.

      I hereby certify that the information contained in my resume 
      is true and that I have not misrepresented any facts which may be 
      used in the furtherance of my employment prospects.

      I agree to hold CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL, their heirs and
      successors, free and harmless from any and all liabilities to
      which they may be exposed due to any misrepresentation of facts
      in the information and documentation which I have provided.


      Signature:________________________Date:_____________________

      Please find enclosed my six month membership fee of $75.00US

      Payment may be made by personal cheque, money order or 
      international postal or money order.

       * * * * W A R N I N G  Do not send cash through the mail  * * * *

      Enclosure:     Resume                                        

      Thought du jour

      "I expect to pass through life but once. If therefore, there be
      any kindness I can show, or any good thing I can do to any fellow
      being, let me do it now, and not defer or neglect it, as I shall
      not pass this way again" - William Penn (1644-1718), English
      Quaker and founder of Pennsylvania.
                                                                   4/4
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From: ROY POXON                              Number: 8839
  To: TIM RANDLES                              Date: 12/15/93 10:43a
Subj: Re: Africa                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Tim Randles to All about Africa on 11-14-93  13:28 <=-

 TR> I am looking for a contract in West Africa. Ghana is a desired
 TR> location. Journeman Electrician with computer skills, PLC Programming
 TR> and maintainance. Certified Arbourist and several years of experience
 TR> in both fields. Any job leads would be appreciated..

 Tim, see our communication on this base.


... CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL - Your window on opportunity
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From: ROY POXON                              Number: 8840
  To: MOLLY LEE                                Date: 12/15/93 10:43a
Subj: Re: Career changing                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Molly Lee to Iona Meyer about Career changing on 11-15-93  16:45
<=-

 ML> IM*Greetings Molly, I'm sorry to hear that you are in the same boat.

 ML> I think that there are a lot of folks who are in the same boat.  I've
 ML> never felt right about saying anything, keeping the frustrations
 ML> inside, until I found this conference. (smile)

 ML> IM*Thank God for BBS life supports.

 ML> Amen to that. :)

 I would like to offer you the following suggestions:

 First the bad news!
 Don't look for the good times of the '80's to return. Many of the jobs
 which have recently been removed from industry have gone for good.
 Companies are getting leaner and meaner. In this global economy they
 have no choice. All the developed countries are in the same boat.
 Fifteen million unemployed in the EEC alone. However, there IS light at
 the end of the tunnel.

 If you have the necessary skills, there ARE jobs out there.

 Companies are very particular about who they hire these days. They are
 looking for very specific skill sets and if your resume does not
 address the company's requirements, your resume gets dumped in file 13.

 I would like to suggest that, as well as replying to advertisements,
 you also list your skill sets and make a judgement as to what kinds of
 jobs you would be comfortable in and qualified to perform. You might be
 surprised at the results. It gets you away from thinking about one job
 title.

 Next, try to decide what industries you would be comfortable working
 in. That is, in which do you have experience or could easily fit into.
 To very much simplify an example, mining is much like oil and gas.
 They are both natural resource industries. Extraction methodologies
 are very similar. Only the end product is different. Again, you will
 surprise yourself with the outcome of this exercise.

 You now have two criteria: what you can do and where you can do it.

 Now comes the hard part. You have to identify those companies which
 meet your industry choices. Visit the main library and look for
 industry reference books. These will have most companies in Canada
 categorized BY industry. Who they are, where they are, what they do,
 etc. They will also have some information on corporate officers: names,
 titles and so on. Financial information may also be present. If not,
 you can look for that in Standard and Poore's, Dun and Bradstreet,
 etc., all useful sources of information. If you have trouble in
 locating what you are after, you will find that the librarian will
 be only too happy to point you in the right direction. Try to get the
 most up to date information. The best source is the main reference
 library on College Street in Toronto, but try your local main library
 first. Also ask if they maintain a newspaper cutting service. This will
 provide additional information about the companies you finally select
 to approach. Are they still in business? What changes have occurred
 over the past six months or so? There will be many questions you may
 wish to have answered.

 This research will help you to pinpoint those companies to whom you can
 send what we call BLIND LETTERS. These letters are basically
 unsolicited job applications. With the information you have gathered
 you will be in a much better position to present yourself in your
 resume and covering letter. If you get as far as an interview, all the
 better. Gives you a chance to really shine with your knowledge of the
 company. This research is very important, so take your time and don't
 be discouraged.

 Covering letters and resumes should be customized to reflect not only
 your past experience, but also your knowledge of the company you are
 writing to, their products and anything else which you can think of.
 Don't go overboard at this point, just a brief sentence or two will
 suffice. Remember, there are a lot of people out there looking for a
 job. You have to gain the advantage.

 Blind letters should NEVER be written to human resource or employment
 offices, they only get trashed, and are a waste of your time and the
 cost of the postage stamp. Always write to the head of the department
 where you would like to work - one of the results of your research.
 In our experience, most of the time you will get a reply to your
 letters, even though some of them may be a "Dear John" type. If this
 is the case, call up the person to whom you wrote and just ask him/her
 if they could give you a critique of your resume. Did they think it
 was well put together? How could it be improved upon? Now you are
 asking for their advice, not a job, and most people will be glad to
 give it to you. It doesn't cost them anything and most likely boosts
 their ego a little.

 Keep your resume down to three pages at the most. Make sure that the
 information you are presenting is brief, to the point and truthful.

 By all means use the "body shops" and "head hunters", but remember that
 they rarely interview. The majority simply send your resume in response
 to a clients request as a "fit". In other words they are paper
 shufflers. However, you might get lucky, particularly if you have a
 well written and professionally presented resume.

 Looking for and finding a job can be a frustrating and protracted
 experience. Look upon it as a learning experience. Go back to school,
 night classes if necessary. It looks good on a resume and adds to your
 marketable skill sets. It also tells a prospective employer that you
 are serious about continuing your education. A very important
 consideration. Get into a routine. Get up each morning at the same
 time, have a work plan for each day. Read those books you always meant
 to. Keep your mind active. Take regular exercise - walking, it doesn't
 have to be strenuous.

 These caveats apply if you are unemployed:

 If you are contemplating going into business for yourself, BE VERY
 CAREFUL.
 If you need financing, don't let anyone fool you into giving up equity
 in your home, you may very well loose it if your business is not
 successful! As many have learned to their dismay.
 Do not be taken in by promises of "unlimited income" in franchise
 deals. The only person making money is the person who sells you the
 franchise.
 Approach every scheme with your eyes open. Don't be taken in by vague
 and unsubstantiated claims for financial success.
 Unless you are absolutely sure of what you are getting into, keep your
 money in your pocket. Charity begins at home <G>
 Don't forget, there's no such thing as a free lunch!

 But most importantly, DO NOT DESPAIR. You are in good company.

 And remember:

                a smile costs nothing,
                there's nothing to pay
                and it might just make
                somebody's day.

 Good luck in your endeavours. Hope that the above has been of some
 assistance. Talk to me any time.. Always glad to help.

... CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL - Your window on opportunity
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From: ROY POXON                              Number: 8841
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/15/93 10:43a
Subj: Employment Advice                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I would like to offer these suggestions to all of you out there who are
 unemployed, seeking a career change or looking for that first job.

 First the bad news!
 Don't look for the good times of the '80's to return. Many of the jobs
 which have recently been removed from industry have gone for good.
 Companies are getting leaner and meaner. In this global economy they
 have no choice. All the developed countries are in the same boat.
 Fifteen million unemployed in the EEC alone. However, there IS light at
 the end of the tunnel.

 If you have the necessary skills, there ARE jobs out there.

 Companies are very particular about who they hire these days. They are
 looking for very specific skill sets and if your resume does not
 address the company's requirements, your resume gets dumped in file 13.

 I would like to suggest that, as well as replying to advertisements,
 you also list your skill sets and make a judgement as to what kinds of
 jobs you would be comfortable in and qualified to perform. You might be
 surprised at the results. It gets you away from thinking about one job
 title.

 Next, try to decide what industries you would be comfortable working
 in. That is, in which do you have experience or could easily fit into.
 To very much simplify an example, mining is much like oil and gas.
 They are both natural resource industries. Extraction methodologies
 are very similar. Only the end product is different. Again, you will
 surprise yourself with the outcome of this exercise.

 You now have two criteria: what you can do and where you can do it.

 Now comes the hard part. You have to identify those companies which
 meet your industry choices. Visit the main library and look for
 industry reference books. These will have most companies in Canada
 categorized BY industry. Who they are, where they are, what they do,
 etc. They will also have some information on corporate officers: names,
 titles and so on. Financial information may also be present. If not,
 you can look for that in Standard and Poore's, Dun and Bradstreet,
 etc., all useful sources of information. If you have trouble in
 locating what you are after, you will find that the librarian will
 be only too happy to point you in the right direction. Try to get the
 most up to date information. The best source is the main reference
 library on College Street in Toronto, but try your local main library
 first. Also ask if they maintain a newspaper cutting service. This will
 provide additional information about the companies you finally select
 to approach. Are they still in business? What changes have occurred
 over the past six months or so? There will be many questions you may
 wish to have answered.

 This research will help you to pinpoint those companies to whom you can
 send what we call BLIND LETTERS. These letters are basically
 unsolicited job applications. With the information you have gathered
 you will be in a much better position to present yourself in your
 resume and covering letter. If you get as far as an interview, all the
 better. Gives you a chance to really shine with your knowledge of the
 company. This research is very important, so take your time and don't
 be discouraged.

 Covering letters and resumes should be customized to reflect not only
 your past experience, but also your knowledge of the company you are
 writing to, their products and anything else which you can think of.
 Don't go overboard at this point, just a brief sentence or two will
 suffice. Remember, there are a lot of people out there looking for a
 job. You have to gain the advantage.

 Blind letters should NEVER be written to human resource or employment
 offices, they only get trashed, and are a waste of your time and the
 cost of the postage stamp. Always write to the head of the department
 where you would like to work - one of the results of your research.
 In our experience, most of the time you will get a reply to your
 letters, even though some of them may be a "Dear John" type. If this
 is the case, call up the person to whom you wrote and just ask him/her
 if they could give you a critique of your resume. Did they think it
 was well put together? How could it be improved upon? Now you are
 asking for their advice, not a job, and most people will be glad to
 give it to you. It doesn't cost them anything and most likely boosts
 their ego a little.

 Keep your resume down to three pages at the most. Make sure that the
 information you are presenting is brief, to the point and truthful.

 By all means use the "body shops" and "head hunters", but remember that
 they rarely interview. The majority simply send your resume in response
 to a clients request as a "fit". In other words they are paper
 shufflers. However, you might get lucky, particularly if you have a
 well written and professionally presented resume.

 Looking for and finding a job can be a frustrating and protracted
 experience. Look upon it as a learning experience. Go back to school,
 night classes if necessary. It looks good on a resume and adds to your
 marketable skill sets. It also tells a prospective employer that you
 are serious about continuing your education. A very important
 consideration. Get into a routine. Get up each morning at the same
 time, have a work plan for each day. Read those books you always meant
 to. Keep your mind active. Take regular exercise - walking, it doesn't
 have to be strenuous.

 These caveats apply to those who are unemployed:

 If you are contemplating going into business for yourself, BE VERY
 CAREFUL.
 If you need financing, don't let anyone fool you into giving up equity
 in your home, you may very well loose it if your business is not
 successful! As many have learned to their dismay.
 Do not be taken in by promises of "unlimited income" in franchise
 deals. The only person making money is the person who sells you the
 franchise.
 Approach every scheme with your eyes open. Don't be taken in by vague
 and unsubstantiated claims for financial success.
 Unless you are absolutely sure of what you are getting into, keep your
 money in your pocket. Charity begins at home <G>
 Don't forget, there's no such thing as a free lunch!

 But most importantly, DO NOT DESPAIR. You are in good company.

 And remember:

                a smile costs nothing,
                there's nothing to pay
                and it might just make
                somebody's day.

 Good luck in your endeavours. Hope that the above has been of some
 assistance. Talk to me any time.. Always glad to help.

... CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL - Your window on opportunity  
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: ROY POXON                              Number: 8842
  To: TIM RANDLES                              Date: 12/15/93 10:43a
Subj: Re:Africa                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Tim Randles to All about Africa on 11-14-93  13:28 <=-

 TR> I am looking for a contract in West Africa. Ghana is a desired
 TR> location. Journeman Electrician with computer skills, PLC Programming
 TR> and maintainance. Certified Arbourist and several years of experience
 TR> in both fields. Any job leads would be appreciated..

 Tim, see our communication on this base.


... CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL - Your window on opportunity

... Catch the Blue Wave!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: ROY POXON                              Number: 8843
  To: MOLLY LEE                                Date: 12/15/93 10:43a
Subj: Re:Career changing                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Molly Lee to Iona Meyer about Career changing on 11-15-93  16:45
<=-

 ML> IM*Greetings Molly, I'm sorry to hear that you are in the same boat.

 ML> I think that there are a lot of folks who are in the same boat.  I've
 ML> never felt right about saying anything, keeping the frustrations
 ML> inside, until I found this conference. (smile)

 ML> IM*Thank God for BBS life supports.

 ML> Amen to that. :)

 I would like to offer you the following suggestions:

 First the bad news!
 Don't look for the good times of the '80's to return. Many of the jobs
 which have recently been removed from industry have gone for good.
 Companies are getting leaner and meaner. In this global economy they
 have no choice. All the developed countries are in the same boat.
 Fifteen million unemployed in the EEC alone. However, there IS light at
 the end of the tunnel.

 If you have the necessary skills, there ARE jobs out there.

 Companies are very particular about who they hire these days. They are
 looking for very specific skill sets and if your resume does not
 address the company's requirements, your resume gets dumped in file 13.

 I would like to suggest that, as well as replying to advertisements,
 you also list your skill sets and make a judgement as to what kinds of
 jobs you would be comfortable in and qualified to perform. You might be
 surprised at the results. It gets you away from thinking about one job
 title.

 Next, try to decide what industries you would be comfortable working
 in. That is, in which do you have experience or could easily fit into.
 To very much simplify an example, mining is much like oil and gas.
 They are both natural resource industries. Extraction methodologies
 are very similar. Only the end product is different. Again, you will
 surprise yourself with the outcome of this exercise.

 You now have two criteria: what you can do and where you can do it.

 Now comes the hard part. You have to identify those companies which
 meet your industry choices. Visit the main library and look for
 industry reference books. These will have most companies in Canada
 categorized BY industry. Who they are, where they are, what they do,
 etc. They will also have some information on corporate officers: names,
 titles and so on. Financial information may also be present. If not,
 you can look for that in Standard and Poore's, Dun and Bradstreet,
 etc., all useful sources of information. If you have trouble in
 locating what you are after, you will find that the librarian will
 be only too happy to point you in the right direction. Try to get the
 most up to date information. The best source is the main reference
 library on College Street in Toronto, but try your local main library
 first. Also ask if they maintain a newspaper cutting service. This will
 provide additional information about the companies you finally select
 to approach. Are they still in business? What changes have occurred
 over the past six months or so? There will be many questions you may
 wish to have answered.

 This research will help you to pinpoint those companies to whom you can
 send what we call BLIND LETTERS. These letters are basically
 unsolicited job applications. With the information you have gathered
 you will be in a much better position to present yourself in your
 resume and covering letter. If you get as far as an interview, all the
 better. Gives you a chance to really shine with your knowledge of the
 company. This research is very important, so take your time and don't
 be discouraged.

 Covering letters and resumes should be customized to reflect not only
 your past experience, but also your knowledge of the company you are
 writing to, their products and anything else which you can think of.
 Don't go overboard at this point, just a brief sentence or two will
 suffice. Remember, there are a lot of people out there looking for a
 job. You have to gain the advantage.

 Blind letters should NEVER be written to human resource or employment
 offices, they only get trashed, and are a waste of your time and the
 cost of the postage stamp. Always write to the head of the department
 where you would like to work - one of the results of your research.
 In our experience, most of the time you will get a reply to your
 letters, even though some of them may be a "Dear John" type. If this
 is the case, call up the person to whom you wrote and just ask him/her
 if they could give you a critique of your resume. Did they think it
 was well put together? How could it be improved upon? Now you are
 asking for their advice, not a job, and most people will be glad to
 give it to you. It doesn't cost them anything and most likely boosts
 their ego a little.

 Keep your resume down to three pages at the most. Make sure that the
 information you are presenting is brief, to the point and truthful.

 By all means use the "body shops" and "head hunters", but remember that
 they rarely interview. The majority simply send your resume in response
 to a clients request as a "fit". In other words they are paper
 shufflers. However, you might get lucky, particularly if you have a
 well written and professionally presented resume.

 Looking for and finding a job can be a frustrating and protracted
 experience. Look upon it as a learning experience. Go back to school,
 night classes if necessary. It looks good on a resume and adds to your
 marketable skill sets. It also tells a prospective employer that you
 are serious about continuing your education. A very important
 consideration. Get into a routine. Get up each morning at the same
 time, have a work plan for each day. Read those books you always meant
 to. Keep your mind active. Take regular exercise - walking, it doesn't
 have to be strenuous.

 These caveats apply if you are unemployed:

 If you are contemplating going into business for yourself, BE VERY
 CAREFUL.
 If you need financing, don't let anyone fool you into giving up equity
 in your home, you may very well loose it if your business is not
 successful! As many have learned to their dismay.
 Do not be taken in by promises of "unlimited income" in franchise
 deals. The only person making money is the person who sells you the
 franchise.
 Approach every scheme with your eyes open. Don't be taken in by vague
 and unsubstantiated claims for financial success.
 Unless you are absolutely sure of what you are getting into, keep your
 money in your pocket. Charity begins at home <G>
 Don't forget, there's no such thing as a free lunch!

 But most importantly, DO NOT DESPAIR. You are in good company.

 And remember:

                a smile costs nothing,
                there's nothing to pay
                and it might just make
                somebody's day.

 Good luck in your endeavours. Hope that the above has been of some
 assistance. Talk to me any time.. Always glad to help.

... CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL - Your window on opportunity

... Catch the Blue Wave!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
--- T.A.G. 2.6f2a Beta
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From: ROY POXON                              Number: 8844
  To: MOLLY LEE                                Date: 12/15/93 10:43a
Subj: Re:Career changing                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: ROY POXON                              Number: 8845
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/15/93 10:43a
Subj: Employment Advice                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I would like to offer these suggestions to all of you out there who are
 unemployed, seeking a career change or looking for that first job.

 First the bad news!
 Don't look for the good times of the '80's to return. Many of the jobs
 which have recently been removed from industry have gone for good.
 Companies are getting leaner and meaner. In this global economy they
 have no choice. All the developed countries are in the same boat.
 Fifteen million unemployed in the EEC alone. However, there IS light at
 the end of the tunnel.

 If you have the necessary skills, there ARE jobs out there.

 Companies are very particular about who they hire these days. They are
 looking for very specific skill sets and if your resume does not
 address the company's requirements, your resume gets dumped in file 13.

 I would like to suggest that, as well as replying to advertisements,
 you also list your skill sets and make a judgement as to what kinds of
 jobs you would be comfortable in and qualified to perform. You might be
 surprised at the results. It gets you away from thinking about one job
 title.

 Next, try to decide what industries you would be comfortable working
 in. That is, in which do you have experience or could easily fit into.
 To very much simplify an example, mining is much like oil and gas.
 They are both natural resource industries. Extraction methodologies
 are very similar. Only the end product is different. Again, you will
 surprise yourself with the outcome of this exercise.

 You now have two criteria: what you can do and where you can do it.

 Now comes the hard part. You have to identify those companies which
 meet your industry choices. Visit the main library and look for
 industry reference books. These will have most companies in Canada
 categorized BY industry. Who they are, where they are, what they do,
 etc. They will also have some information on corporate officers: names,
 titles and so on. Financial information may also be present. If not,
 you can look for that in Standard and Poore's, Dun and Bradstreet,
 etc., all useful sources of information. If you have trouble in
 locating what you are after, you will find that the librarian will
 be only too happy to point you in the right direction. Try to get the
 most up to date information. The best source is the main reference
 library on College Street in Toronto, but try your local main library
 first. Also ask if they maintain a newspaper cutting service. This will
 provide additional information about the companies you finally select
 to approach. Are they still in business? What changes have occurred
 over the past six months or so? There will be many questions you may
 wish to have answered.

 This research will help you to pinpoint those companies to whom you can
 send what we call BLIND LETTERS. These letters are basically
 unsolicited job applications. With the information you have gathered
 you will be in a much better position to present yourself in your
 resume and covering letter. If you get as far as an interview, all the
 better. Gives you a chance to really shine with your knowledge of the
 company. This research is very important, so take your time and don't
 be discouraged.

 Covering letters and resumes should be customized to reflect not only
 your past experience, but also your knowledge of the company you are
 writing to, their products and anything else which you can think of.
 Don't go overboard at this point, just a brief sentence or two will
 suffice. Remember, there are a lot of people out there looking for a
 job. You have to gain the advantage.

 Blind letters should NEVER be written to human resource or employment
 offices, they only get trashed, and are a waste of your time and the
 cost of the postage stamp. Always write to the head of the department
 where you would like to work - one of the results of your research.
 In our experience, most of the time you will get a reply to your
 letters, even though some of them may be a "Dear John" type. If this
 is the case, call up the person to whom you wrote and just ask him/her
 if they could give you a critique of your resume. Did they think it
 was well put together? How could it be improved upon? Now you are
 asking for their advice, not a job, and most people will be glad to
 give it to you. It doesn't cost them anything and most likely boosts
 their ego a little.

 Keep your resume down to three pages at the most. Make sure that the
 information you are presenting is brief, to the point and truthful.

 By all means use the "body shops" and "head hunters", but remember that
 they rarely interview. The majority simply send your resume in response
 to a clients request as a "fit". In other words they are paper
 shufflers. However, you might get lucky, particularly if you have a
 well written and professionally presented resume.

 Looking for and finding a job can be a frustrating and protracted
 experience. Look upon it as a learning experience. Go back to school,
 night classes if necessary. It looks good on a resume and adds to your
 marketable skill sets. It also tells a prospective employer that you
 are serious about continuing your education. A very important
 consideration. Get into a routine. Get up each morning at the same
 time, have a work plan for each day. Read those books you always meant
 to. Keep your mind active. Take regular exercise - walking, it doesn't
 have to be strenuous.

 These caveats apply to those who are unemployed:

 If you are contemplating going into business for yourself, BE VERY
 CAREFUL.
 If you need financing, don't let anyone fool you into giving up equity
 in your home, you may very well loose it if your business is not
 successful! As many have learned to their dismay.
 Do not be taken in by promises of "unlimited income" in franchise
 deals. The only person making money is the person who sells you the
 franchise.
 Approach every scheme with your eyes open. Don't be taken in by vague
 and unsubstantiated claims for financial success.
 Unless you are absolutely sure of what you are getting into, keep your
 money in your pocket. Charity begins at home <G>
 Don't forget, there's no such thing as a free lunch!

 But most importantly, DO NOT DESPAIR. You are in good company.

 And remember:

                a smile costs nothing,
                there's nothing to pay
                and it might just make
                somebody's day.

 Good luck in your endeavours. Hope that the above has been of some
 assistance. Talk to me any time.. Always glad to help.

... CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL - Your window on opportunity

... Catch the Blue Wave!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
--- T.A.G. 2.6f2a Beta
 * Origin: The Gatehouse BBS * (905)528-0635/0636 * WHQ BBCNet (1:244/119)
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From: CLINT MORTON                           Number: 8846
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/17/93  8:49p
Subj: Cd Drive                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like to trade some stuff for a rom drive.  I have the following,
    a plc with 422 comm
    a rs422 card
    a fiberoptic rs232 extender
    I/O cards for the plc
    and some other junk.
                                  Clint Morton

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8847
  To: LEO MULVIHILL                            Date: 12/16/93  2:08a
Subj: POPULAR TITLES                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I was sure that I put the private switch on it.

 "Private" and "echomail" are a contradiction in terms.


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8848
  To: RICHARD JOHNSON                          Date: 12/16/93  2:11a
Subj: CD SPEED                                Refer: NONE
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>Does anyone know of a program that will show the speed of a CD drive? All the
>ones I have are for HDs and won't do "network" drives. Thanks.

 Have you tried the Novell disk speed tester program?
 It OUGHT to work on "network" drives, though you can't do the WRITE testing
part (for obvious reasons)....


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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 8849
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/16/93  1:54p
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Greetings:

Please Note:  Prices are subject to change without notice.  We reserve
the right to limit quantities and are not responsible for typographical
errors.  We will not knowingly be undersold by any other CD-ROM dealer
in Canada! If you find a better regularly advertised Canadian price
on any of our titles, we'll match that price, and throw in the shipping
for Free!

1)  We have added an additional 80 of the latest titles in all categories;

2)  Thanks to your support, we have once again been able to offer better
pricing on most of our titles, especially in the higher-end products.  You
will notice a substantial savings of anywhere from 5% - 30% off our previous
pricing!

3)  We now accept MASTERCARD orders as well as VISA!!!

4)  Becuase of our low pricing, we must now charge 3% for VISA and
Mastercard orders UNDER $50.00, on the pre-shipping/tax price. Orders
over $50.00 are not effected.

5)  To help us keep our prices low, please respect our request to use our
TOLL-FREE 800 # EXCLUSIVELY FOR ORDERS ONLY.  If you require other
information, call our office number: (905) 830-1615.  Or you can fax
your request for information using the same number.  You can place your
order 24 hours a day.  Just leave us the title(s) requested, your VISA/
Mastercard # with Expiration date, and the price according to your copy
of our price list.  Barring any problems, your order will be processed
right away.  Allow 7 to 10 days for delivery.  PsL CDs ship next day.
Orders placed by Personal Cheque are held for an additional 7 days.

6)  In addition to our new CDs, we buy and sell USED CD's.  If you have some
in good condition with documentation, please contact us with a price you
would like for them, or you may use them to trade-in on New titles.  We
buy only good quality used titles with the documentation in tact.  Drop
us a line, give us a call, let us know what you're looking for.

7)  We are also endeavouring to install a Fax-on-Demand system which would
allow you to retrieve info on most or all titles via fax.  Again, we'll keep
you posted.


Hayden Bradshaw,
HRB Computer Services
14 Hollis Crescent,
Holland Landing, ON
L9N 1E7

Information & Fax:  (905) 830-1615
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Title                            Category   Price

1001 Utilities                   sh         19.95
1992 CIA Factbook & Shareware    re         17.85
20th Century Video Almanac       re         36.75
24th Street Rod Nationals        re         26.25
386BSD                           pr         26.25
501 Sound Waves                  mu         26.25
9-Digit Zip Code Directory       re         47.25
9000 Sounds / Sound File Shareware          mu32.55
A Line in the Sand               re         57.82
A Plus Grade Builder             ed         55.86
A Zillion Sounds                 mu         32.55
AD&D Eye of the Beholder Trilogy en         97.37
ASP Advantage (ASP Shareware)    sh         30.45
About Cows                       re         38.85
Ada Programming                  pr         28.35
Adventures                       sh         49.98
Adventures in Heaven             sh         24.15
Adventures of Pinocchio (MAC)    ed         82.08
Adventures of Willy Beamish, The en         26.25
Aegis Guardian Fleet             en         77.35
Aesop's Fables                   ed         57.82
Air Warrior                      en         82.81
Aircraft Encyclopedia            re         47.25
Aladdin and His Wonderful Lamp   ed         48.76
All American Shareware Galore    sh         32.55
All American Sports              en         26.25
All Music Guide                  re         69.16
Aloha Hawaii                     tr         32.55
Amanda Stories                   ed         66.43
Amazing Universe                 re         80.99
America's Premier Shareware      sh         19.95
American Business Tel. Bk./93-94 bu         40.95
American Heritage Encycl. Dict'ry           re80.99
American Journey: 1896-1945      re         62.79
American Vista                   tr         49.98
American Vista (MAC)             tr         73.67
Americans in Space (PC/MAC)      ed         80.99
Aminet Amiga                     pr         26.25
Amsoft World of Ham Radio V.II   sh         47.25
Anecdotes                        ed         19.95
Animals in Motion                cl         69.58
Animals, The -- BOX              re         98.88
Animals, The -- DOS              re         28.35
Animals, The -- MPC              re         28.35
Animation Festival               cl         38.85
Annable's Dream of Ancient Egypt ed         90.09
Arcade                           en         59.15
Arctic Baron                     en         49.98
Arthur's Teacher Trouble         ed         43.05
Arthur's Teacher Trouble (MAC)   ed         75.09
Atlas of US Presidents           tr         43.05
Audio Collection                 h          12.60
Audubon Birds                    re         30.45
Audubon Mammals                  re         30.45
Authorware Star                  pr         57.82
Autodesk Explorer                bu         105.88
B17 Flying Fortress & Silent Service        en62.79
Backroad Racers                  en         73.71
Baker's Dozen                    en         22.05
Barney Bear Goes to School       ed         19.95
Barney Bear Goes to Space        ed         19.95
Barron's Book Notes              ed         47.25
Battle Chess Enhanced            en         49.35
Beauty and the Beast             ed         32.55
Berenstein Bears: Learning at Home          ed49.35
Berlitz Think & Talk French      ed         191.63
Berlitz Think & Talk German      ed         191.63
Berlitz Think & Talk Italian     ed         191.63
Berlitz Think & Talk Spanish     ed         191.63
Best Business                    bu         32.55
Better Homes/Garden Healthy Cookbook        re80.99
Beyond the Wall of Stars         en         44.10
Bibilo-Tech                      li         26.25
Bible Lands & Stories            ed         57.82
Bible Library                    re         40.95
Bibles and Religion              re         16.80
Blue Force                       en         64.61
Book of Lists #3, The            re         67.10
Bracchus & Comus                 mi         62.79
Britain at Its Best              re         34.65
Britannica Family Choice         ed         32.55
Britannica Select Software       bu         22.05
Business Assistant               bu         19.95
Business Backgrounds             cl         48.02
Business Library Volume I        re         60.97
Business Lists-on-Disc           bu         43.05
Business Made Easy               bu         49.74
Business Master                  bu         26.25


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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 8851
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Business Tools                   sh         28.35
C Users Group Library            pr         38.85
CD CAD 3.7                       cl         38.85
CD Caddies (Sony)                misc       8.19
CD Deluxe Scrabble               en         47.25
CD Funhouse Box Version          en         49.74
CD Funhouse OEM                  en         26.25
CD Game Pack II                  en         32.55
CD ROM Deluxe Pack               re         49.74
CD Speedway                      ut         91.88
CICA Microsoft Windows           sh         19.95
CNN Global View                  re         82.81
CP/M                             pr         26.25
California & Hawaii Gold Guide   tr         50.09
California Collection, The       sh         17.85
California Travel                tr         55.51
Capitol Hill                     en         36.75
Career Opportunities             bu         43.05
Case of the Cautious Condor      en         59.15
Chess Maniac -- National Lampoon en         60.97
Chessmaster 3000                 en         28.21
Chessmaster 3000 Box             en         84.88
Chopper Pack                     en         71.89
Cinemania from Microsoft         re         95.55
Classic Clips Trailers           cl         40.95
Classic Collection               li         90.09
Clinton                          re         53.90
Clip Art Galore                  cl         38.85
Clip Art Heaven                  cl         19.95
Clip Art Warehouse (was Goliath) cl         16.80
Clip Master Pro                  cl         49.35
Coates' Art Review: Abstract Art cl         47.25
Coates' Art Review: Impressionism           cl40.95
Collectors Edition Games         en         86.45
Color Magic ClipArt              cl         32.55
Complete Audubon                 re         77.35
Complete Bookshop                li         16.80
Complete Home & Office Legal Guide          cl16.80
Complete House                   cl         43.05
Complete Works of Shakespeare    li         22.05
Composer Quest -- Box            mu         88.27
Composer Quest OEM               mu         47.25
Compton's Encyclopedia 1991      re         88.38
Compton's Family Choice          ed         40.95
Compton's Family Encyclopedia. DOS          re    298.20
Compton's Inter. Ency. 1994 w/o BOX         re    106.47
Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia          re    148.33
Computer Reference Library       re         16.80
Conan the Cimmerian              en         47.25
Conan the Cimmerian OEM          en         32.55
Conquest of the Longbow          en         70.07
Consumer Information             re         40.95
Cookbook Heaven                  re         19.95
Corel Art Show III               cl         49.74
Corel Photo CD Hawaii            cl         80.33
Corel Photo CD Waterfalls        cl         80.33
Countries of the World           tr         90.09
Creative Kids                    ed         49.98
Creepy Crawlies (Sony)           re         62.79
Crossword Cracker                en         32.55
Curse of Enchantia               en         47.25
Cute and Cuddlies (Sony)         re         60.97
Cybergenic Ranger                en         17.85
Daggers of Amon Ra: Laura Bow II en         38.85
Dandy Dinosaurs                  en         80.99
Dare, Bluff or Die!              en         53.69
Darwin                           li         82.81
DataBase Made Easy               sh         30.45
Deathstar Arcade Battles         en         16.80
Deep Voyage                      cl         48.02
Desert Storm (MAC)               re         49.98
Desert Storm w/Coalition Command re         55.86
Desert Storm: The War Pers. MAC  re         36.75
Desktop Bookshop                 li         30.45
Desktop Publishers Dream Disk    cl         40.95
Dictionaries & Language          re         16.80
Dictionary of the Living World   re         153.79
Dictionary of the Living World OEM          re    49.74
Digital Tours & USA Tours        tr         40.95
Dinosaur Adventure -- Box        ed         75.53
Dinosaur Adventure OEM           ed         40.95
Dinosaurs! The Multimedia Collection        ed    32.55
Distant Suns                     ed         128.31
Don Quixote                      li         57.82
Down to Earth MAC                re         90.09
Dr. Fun Pack                     sh         32.55
Dr. Games                        sh         26.25
Dr. Shareware                    sh         26.25
Dr. Sound                        mu         26.25
Dr. Windows                      sh         26.25
Dracula Unleashed                en         84.63
Dragon's Lair                    en         64.61
Dune                             en         84.63
Dune (OEM)                       en         51.94
EPS Pro Vol. 1                   pr         194.00
EPS Pro Vol. 2                   pr         194.00
Ecoquest                         en         36.75
Edu-Tainment Library Kids Disc 1 ed         28.35
Education Master Vol. 2          ed         26.25
Educational Disk                 ed         40.95
Educational Gameland             ed         26.25
Electricity and Magnetism        ed         49.35
Electronic Home Library          li         40.95
Electronic Library of Art        cl         47.25
Encyclopedia of Clip Art         cl         36.75
Encyclopedia of Sound            mu         16.80
Eric the Unready                 en         63.32
Essential Home & Business Collect           bu63.32
European Monarchs                re         43.05
European Racers                  en         79.38
Exotic Gardening                 re         57.82
Exotic Japan (MAC)               re         110.06
Eye of the Beholder 3            en         73.71
Eye of the Beholder 3 OEM        en         36.75
Eye of the Beholder cluebook     en         24.15
F117A                            en         66.43
F117A 2 + F-15 Strike Eagle 2 OEM           en40.95
F15 Strike Eagle                 en         77.35
Factomatic Executive             re         51.77
Factomatic Sales Manager         re         51.77
Family Doctor                    re         32.55
Family Education Collection      re         28.45
Fantazia Fonts and Sounds        cl         40.95
Fatty Bear's Birthday Surprise   ed         66.43
Fatty Bear's Fun Pack            ed         51.94
Flight 642                       en         74.66
Fly & Drive Spectacular          en         63.32
Font Funhouse                    cl         49.98
Font Funhouse w/o BOX            cl         26.25
Fontmaster I                     cl         15.75
Fontmaster II                    cl         26.25
Fonts for the Professional Publisher        cl47.25
Food Analyst                     re         57.82
Four Queens Computer Casino      en         57.82
Fractal Ecstasy                  cl         49.98
Fractals                         pr         26.25
Fractunes                        mu         47.25
France at Its Best               re         40.95
Fresh Arte                       cl         40.95
Full Bloom                       cl         48.02
Funny (Jokes CD)                 en         48.02
Futura: Games That Go Beyond     en         19.95
Future Wars                      en         64.61
GAIA Environmental Res. MAC      re         99.19


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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 8853
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Gallery of Dreams BOX            cl         108.29
Gallery of Dreams OEM PC/MAC     cl         26.25
Game Arena                       en         16.80
Game Master                      en         26.25
Games 1993                       en         32.55
Games Bonanza + Anti Virus (1993)           sh26.25
Games Collection, The            en         26.25
Games for DOS                    en         15.75
Games for Windows                en         15.75
Games for Windows Vol.2          en         15.75
Gameware Collection              en         26.25
Garbo                            pr         19.95
Gardening                        cl         16.80
Gigabyte Gold                    sh         40.95
Gigagames                        en         26.25
Global Explorer                  tr         144.38
Goferwinkle's Adventures         en         49.74
Goldilocks and The Three Bears   ed         53.69
Grammy Awards, The               mu         49.98
Great Cities of the World Vol. 1 & 2        tr40.95
Great Cities of the World Vol.1  tr         32.55
Great Cities of the World Vol.2  tr         32.55
Great Literature                 li         57.33
Great Mystery Classics           li         55.76
Great Naval Battles              en         84.63
Great Poetry                     li         57.82
Great Wonders of the World Vol.1 tr         49.98
Great Wonders of the World Vol.2 tr         57.82
Groliers Encyclopedia 1.0        re         69.58
Groliers Encyclopedia 5.0        re         67.62
Groliers Encyclopedia 6.0 - MPC  re         61.74
Groliers Encyclopedia MAC        re         71.89
Guiness Book of Records 1991     re         15.75
Guiness Book of Records 1992 Mac re         9.45
Guiness Book of Records 1993     re         38.85
Gunship 2000                     en         60.97
Gunship 2000 EOM                 en         40.95
Guy Spy                          en         32.55
Hacker Chronicles, The           sh         32.55
Hacker Chronicles, The BOX       sh         40.95
Ham Radio                        sh         16.80
Hamcall April 1993               sh         75.46
Hamware 1993 Version 1           sh         26.25
Hawaii High - Mystery of the Tiki           en53.69
Healing Foods Cookbook           re         49.74
Heart--The Engine of Life        re         108.29
Hell Cab  MAC                    en         104.13
Hell Cab PC version              en         90.13
Hi-Tech Aircraft                 en         $call
History of the World             cl         49.35
Hobbes OS/2 Archives Oct/93      pr         19.95
Home Computer Starter Kit        bu         43.05
Home Designer CD DOS/WIN         cl         49.35
Home Remedies                    re         49.74
Hong Kong At Its Best            re         32.55
Hospitality Index, The           re         40.95
Hot Lines                        en         55.86
Hound of Baskervilles, The       li         57.82
House of Games                   en         19.95
How The World Works              re         49.74
How Things Work                  re         49.74
Human Calculator                 ed         49.74
Humans                           re         48.83
IBM Library for AIX              ut         5.25
IBM Network Softcopy Collection  ut         11.55
ITN World News 1992              re         97.13
Illus. Facts: How Things Work    re         49.74
Illus. Facts: How the World Works           re49.74
Impressionism and Its Sources    cl         57.82
Inca                             en         71.82
Indiana Jone & Fate of Atlantis  en         66.43
Info MAC Shareware               sh         38.85
In Print Art Library             cl         64.61
In Print Art Library #2          cl         64.61
Inspector Gadget                 ed         60.97
Int'l. Business & Economic Atlas bu         26.25
Interactive Storytime Vol.1      ed         30.45
Interactive Storytime Vol.2      ed         30.45
Interactive Storytime Vol.3      ed         51.77
International Intelligence Factbook         re74.66
Internet Doc                     pr         26.25
Iron Helix IBM                   en         104.13
Iron Helix MAC                   en         97.13
Island Designs                   cl         49.74
Island Designs OEM               cl         30.45
It All Started with George       re         89.18
Jazz Traditions                  mu         55.86
Jedi Collection                  en         77.42
Jets and Props                   cl         57.82
John Schumaker New Prague Ckbk   re         40.95
Jokes and Pranks                 re         17.85
Jones in the Fast Lane           en         26.25
Journeyman Project - (MAC)       en         102.83
Journeyman Project - MPC         en         81.30
Jurassic (& other) Dinosaurs     re         19.95
Just Fonts                       cl         26.25
Just Grandma  and Me             ed         63.70
Jutland                          en         91.14
KGB World Factbook               re         53.80
KGB-CIA Handbook                 re         51.77
Karaoke Party                    en         67.62
Karaoke Song Disc 1 - Elvis!     en         30.45
Kathy Smith's Fat Burning System re         79.38
Key Fonts Pro                    cl         47.25
Kid Fun                          ed         57.82
Kids Can Read - ...At the Ranch  ed         38.85
Kids Can Read - Aesop's Fables   ed         38.85
Kids Can Read - Cinderella       ed         38.85
Kids Can Read - Heather 1st Homer           ed38.85
Kids Can Read - Moving...Stomach ed         38.85
Kids Can Read - Mud Puddle       ed         38.85
Kids Can Read - Paperbag Princess           ed38.85
Kids Can Read - Scary Poems...   ed         38.85
Kids Can Read - Tale of P. Rabbit           ed38.85
Kids Can Read - Tales...Benjamin Bunny      ed38.85
Kids Can Read - Thomas' Snowsuit ed         38.85
Kids Zoo                         re         87.89
King James Bible                 re         34.65
King's Quest V                   en         26.25
King's Quest VI (Upgrade Full Vers.)        en49.98
Klotski                          en         40.95
Kodak Photo CD MAC               re         19.95
Kodak Photo CD Software          cl         19.95
Labyrinth of Time, The           ed         84.11
LAN Master                       ut         40.95
Languages Discovery              ed         57.82
Languages of the World           ed         36.75
Laser Library                    ut         49.98
Laser Printer Companion          ut         49.98
Laser Printer Companion OEM      ut         19.95
Lasersoft Top Tracks             en         77.42
Last Chance to See (Sony)        re         67.62
Leader Board Collection          en         43.05
Learn to Speak English           ed         99.19
Learn to Speak French            ed         80.99
Learn to Speak Spanish           ed         90.09
Learning Adventure               ed         17.85
Learning Fun for Kids            ed         17.85
Learning Heaven                  sh         24.15
Legend of Kyrandia               en         70.07
Legend of Kyrandia OEM           en         37.80
Lesko's Information USA          re         71.89
Let's Go: Budget Guide CA & HI 93           tr34.65
Let's Play                       ed         19.95


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Libris Britannia                 sh         70.35
Lifestyles of the R & F Cookbook re         49.94
Lightning                        ut         95.45
Line and Shape Eater             en         49.98
Links Collector CD               en         65.66
Linux Programming                pr         49.74
Lion Share                       sh         49.98
Loom                             en         30.45
Lord of the Rings                en         79.17
Lost Treasures of Infocom Vol.1  en         65.21
Lost Treasures of Infocom Vol.2  en         49.98
LucasArts MAC CD Game Pack 2     en         34.65
Lyric Language French            ed         63.32
Lyric Language Spanish           ed         63.32
MM Animals Encyclopedia          re         49.98
MM Computer Tutor                ed         26.25
MM Music CDR Training Vol.1      mu         26.25
MPC Wizard                       cl         18.90
MS Bookshelf '93                 re         68.99
MS Dinosaurs                     ed         137.41
MS Encarta                       re         399.26
MS Encarta (Special Intro. Price)           re    129.00
MS Multimedia Golf               en         80.33
MS Musical Instrument            mu         99.19
MS Musical Instrument - Stravinsky          mu97.37
MS Works                         bu         65.98
MS-DOS Explorer Vol.3 - DOS      sh         34.65
Mad Dog Mcree                    en         68.21
Made in the USA                  re         49.35
Magazine Rack                    re         30.45
Majestic Places                  cl         49.74
Manhole                          en         49.35
Maniac Mansion - Day of the Tentacle        en70.88
Mantis                           en         26.25
Map Expert w/Street Atlas USA    tr         399.26
Maps 'n Facts PC Globe           re         55.76
Masterpiece Library              li         55.86
Matinee Screen Saver             cl         61.43
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing      bu         30.45
Max the Dragon - PC/MAC          ed         82.22
Mayo Clinic                      re         30.45
MacMillan Dictionary for Children           ed34.65
Media Library Mega Media 1       sh         28.35
Media Library Mega Media 2       sh         28.35
Media Library Mega Media 3       sh         28.35
Mega  Windows 2                  sh         39.20
Mega A/V 1                       sh         39.20
Mega CD-ROM 1                    sh         39.20
Mega CD-ROM 2                    sh         39.20
Mega CD-ROM 3                    sh         39.20
Mega GAMES 1                     sh/pd      39.20
Mega Movie Guide                 re         55.86
Mega WinOS2 A                    sh         39.20
Microprose Game CD (4 g) PC/Mac  en         36.54
Middle East Diary                re         43.05
Midi Music Shop                  mu         26.25
Mirror Mirror Shareware          en         19.95
Mixed Up Mother Goose            ed         26.25
Monarch Notes                    ed         75.46
Money, Money, Money              cl         49.74
Monkey Island 1&2+Indiana Jones  en         34.65
Monster Media 93                 sh         38.85
Mosaic Magic                     pr         38.85
Mother Earth 2                   cl         51.77
Mother of All Clip Art           cl         19.95
Movies on TV and Videotape       re         49.74
Mowgli's Brothers                ed         55.76
Mozart                           mu         45.42
Multi-Media Beethoven            mu         95.55
Multi-Media Jazz History         mu         71.89
MultiBible                       re         71.89
Multimedia Environments          en         32.55
Multiplatform                    re         71.89
Murder Makes Strange Deadfellows en         55.76
Murmurs of Earth                 re         70.07
My Advanced Label Designer       bu         63.32
Myst MAC                         en         86.91
National Geographic Mammals      re         38.85
National Geographic Mammals Box  re         80.99
National Parks                   tr         38.85
Nautilus Bac Pac Vol.1           mi         71.89
Nautilus Bac Pac Vol.2           mi         71.89
Nautilus Bac Pac Vol.3           mi         71.89
Nautilus Best of Photography     mi         32.55
Nautilus Mini-Subscription       mi         40.95
Nebula                           sh         38.85
New Basics Electronics Cookbook  re         71.89
New Kids on the Block MAC        en         59.15
New York at Its Best             re         32.55
New Zealand Birds                re         40.95
Newsweek Interactive             re         47.25
Night Owl 10                     sh         48.30
Night Owl 4.1                    sh         26.25
Night Owl 4.2                    sh         26.25
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  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/16/93  1:54p
Subj: Canadian CD Prices    5/6               Refer: NONE
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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 8859
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/16/93  1:54p
Subj: Canadian CD Prices    6/6               Refer: NONE
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Tempra Access                    cl         17.85
Terminator 2 Chess Wars          en         54.81
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Too Many Typefonts               sh         26.25
Top 2000+ Shareware              sh         26.25
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Voyage to the Stars 5            re         67.62
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Windows Collection, The          sh         26.25
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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 8860
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 12/17/93  4:43a
Subj: Amateur Models for trade                Refer: NONE
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GS>RN>I  have the new Amateur Models for trade for another adult cd-rom
GS>I'll trade you Busty Babes #3, vol. for it. Let me know.

Greg, that will be fine.  I need your address for mailing the Amateur
Models disc to.  Send the BB #3 to:

Randy Neuner
196 Hughes St
Ft Huachuca, AZ 85613

When you get this msg and send the disc let me know as I have alot of
other offers but am holding it for you.  I had your address but was not
sure if you still wanted to trade and cannot find your address now.
Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 8861
  To: TROY JOHNSON                             Date: 12/17/93  5:44a
Subj: On  its way                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Troy, the cd we discussed is on its way.

Randy


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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 8862
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/17/93  2:02p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol II - Review         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <12-16-93 12:50> Lee Noga wrote:

LN>  In a message to All <12-14-93 16:46> David Vangelder wrote:
LN>
LN>  DV>> In a message to David Doyle <11Ä08Ä93 12:26> Lee Noga wrote:
LN>
LN>  DV>> LN>> because we got word that Blaine intentionally notified
LN>  several
LN>  DV>> LN>> areas where the possibility of lawsuit against me would be
LN>  DV>> LN>> They were very quick to brag about all their malice
LN>  DV>> effortsÄÄ
LN>
LN>  DV>> I did not boast or brag about any suits that may have come Ms.
LN>  DV>> Noga's way.
LN>
LN>  I Have proof to the contrary.

I will only repeat this one time - I did not boast or brag about any suits
that may have come your way.

LN>  I suggest you take this topic out of the public eye. It would be in
LN>  your best interest to do so.

As to me taking this topic out of the public eye, I DID NOT PUT IT THERE - YOU
DID!!!

As I also said in my post, I DO NOT CONSIDER THE CD-ROM FOR SALE ECHO TO BE
THE PLACE FOR STORIES OR THINGS OTHER THAN ANNOUNCING CD-ROM PRODUCTS FOR    
                                       ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^
SALE OR WHAT ONE MAY FEEL ABOUT A CD-ROM PRODUCT.
^^^^ ^^ ^^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^ ^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^
Perhaps there is an "OLD LADY GOSSIP ECHO" available for you to post these
types of messages. It is all to clear that you have not disputed ONE FACT in
my post of October 31, 1993.  
 
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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 8863
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/17/93  2:21p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol II                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <12-16-93 12:44> Lee Noga wrote:

LN>  In a message to Dan Wade <12-14-93 16:51> David Vangelder wrote:
LN>
LN>  DV>> In a message to David Vangelder <11Ä05Ä93 15:21> Dan Wade wrote:
LN>
LN>  DV>> After all, if I am good enough to sell Ms. Noga her 1.2 Gig
LN>  DV>> Micropolis Hard Drive, I'd be only to happy to do business with
LN>  you.
LN>
LN>  Mr. van Gelder, do not use myself or my product line as a credit
LN>  leaverage for you or your company--Let's put this in perspective for
LN>  this gentleman about your being 'Good Enough' to sell myself a 1.2
LN>  gig drive, therefore making you all that more accomodating to do
LN>  business with......
LN>
LN>  Why don't you bring 'Our' business dealings up to date--Let's discuss
LN>  our professional considerations towards one another in a form of a
LN>  time capsule, shall we ? The gig drive was bought during the first
LN>  quarter of 1993 when Florida Lions Den was Lee Noga and Blaine
LN>  Richard, and you were off in other directions which I assume were not
LN>  CD-ROM related.

My reference to selling you a hard drive was meant to let Mr. Wade know that I
am able to provide extremely competitive pricing on computer hardware.
LN>
LN>  What have our dealings been since ?--Blaine formed a corp with you
LN>  after I terminated our partnership--You generated a letter in June
LN>  asking for $90,000 dollars for damages over alleged infringing
LN>  software, you were present during my 3 hour interogation/deposition
LN>  on Nov 27, you were collaborating with the plaintiffs lawyer in
LN>  Federal Court Nov 30th with myself on the other side with my
LN>  attorney--and you were present when the Federal judge rejected the
LN>  request to have me bonded for a ridiculous $500,000 dollars. I hardly
LN>  think the world should be led to believe that *YOU* and *I* exchange
LN>  Christmas cards.

In regard to my activity in writing to you asking for damages, being present
during your deposition, and collaborating with the attorney in court; I am
the VPIC licensing agent and was acting in that capacity.

It is interesting to me, what you would like to imply to the people who read
this echo. From what you say, it would appear that you prevailed in the case.
Didn't you get a copy of the Judge's order? It said, "Defendants Rebecca Noga
and Florida Lion's Den, Inc. are hereby enjoined from selling, distributing,
manufacturing, renting or otherwise utilizing the VPIC software copyrighted by
the Plaintiff. All infringing products which remain in the possession,
control, or custody of Defendants or of any entity of which either Defendant
exercises any supervisory authority shall be recalled immediately and
surrendered to Plaintiff.  Defendants shall prepare an advertisement to be
placed in their Bulletin Board System ("BBS"), which informs users, sellers
and distributors that the infringing products were produced without a license
and advise those users, sellers and distributors that such products are
subject to payment of a licensing fee to Plaintiff..."

I don't begin to think that I could lead the people that read this echo to
believe that we will be exchanging Christmas cards.

As I said in my post, I ALSO DO NOT CONSIDER THE CD-ROM FOR SALE ECHO TO BE
THE PLACE FOR STORIES OR THINGS OTHER THAN ANNOUNCING CD-ROM PRODUCTS
                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^
FOR SALE OR WHAT ONE MAY FEEL ABOUT A CD-ROM PRODUCT.
^^^ ^^^^ ^^ ^^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^ ^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^
Perhaps there is an "OLD LADY GOSSIP ECHO" available for you to post these
types of messages.  It is all to clear that you have not disputed ONE FACT in
my post of October 31, 1993.

LN>  PS--Congrats on your and Blaines new disc ! Hope you sell millions of
LN>  them.
LN>      I'm sure this disc will be a great value and very professionally
LN>  done.

I appreciate the kind words about our new disc.  I hope the buying public will
agree with you.  
 
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From: MATT DRURY                             Number: 8864
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/17/93  2:08p
Subj: Flame XXX Adult CD  Super hot!!         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > publisher and distributors at great risk--Take it from me the
 > *MOST* sued publisher in the industry for 1993, I hope you

What a banner line to be able to put on your discs. <grin>

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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 8865
  To: JOE BURKE                                Date: 12/17/93 10:31a
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Joe,
Mail your CD Animation Fantasies to Greg Sterling, 3111 Hann Hill Rd., West
Middlesex, Pa 16159-6566.  BB went out in today's (12/17) mail.
Greg

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From: MICHAEL GUIDRY                         Number: 8866
  To: DANNY BRIGANCE                           Date: 12/17/93 11:23p
Subj: Check                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Got the check today, or at least the envelope. Haven't looked inside
yet.  Hope there's something in it :)

Hope you enjoy the cd.  I know know one does it, but read over the docs
first.  I wasted a lot of time trying to do searches before I looked in
the docs and found that small words like "for" are not indexed and are not
ignored, so "For God so loved ... " wont be found because the first word
isn't indexed.


Have a Happy Christmas.


... The pain-in-the-butt who made Marv write Win_Mail
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 8867
  To: ROY POXON                                Date: 12/19/93  8:24a
Subj: Employment Advice                       Refer: 12297
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->  I would like to offer these suggestions to all of you out there who
->  unemployed, seeking a career change or looking for that first job.

This is the CDROM_SALE echo... You're off topic.  Don't do it again.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 8868
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 12/19/93  8:22a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol II -                Refer: 12332
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> As I also said in my post, I DO NOT CONSIDER THE CD-ROM FOR SALE ECHO
-> THE PLACE FOR STORIES OR THINGS OTHER THAN ANNOUNCING CD-ROM PRODUCTS
->                                        ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^
-> SALE OR WHAT ONE MAY FEEL ABOUT A CD-ROM PRODUCT.
-> ^^^^ ^^ ^^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^ ^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^

Leave the moderating to me, David.

Everything Lee said has relevance to selling CD ROMs. You're the one
who's off topic!

tim
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From: JEAN-LOUIS BONTRONT                    Number: 8869
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/17/93  1:40p
Subj: Asimov CD                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Is there any such thing as a "Complete Asimov" CD collection of his
sci-fi writings?

JLB

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From: VIC HLUSHAK                            Number: 8870
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/17/93 12:13p
Subj: BB1                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

i have the Busty Babes CD for sale/trade.  Yes, it does have the BAM-BAM LTD
Logo and Graphic Software on the top of the disk. I cleaned all the drool off
and always used a caddy so its in good shape. I am in Canada for all you People
up here.

Leave msg here or voice 403-743-0445.

:-) Vic

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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 8871
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/16/93 11:12a
Subj: CD-ROM drives!                          Refer: NONE
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                    \\           presents          //
                    //         CD-ROM MANIA        \\
                    //      DECEMBER 16, 1993      \\
                    \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/////////////////

                       Current price list effective
          Don't purchase a drive before calling and checking out
                   our GREAT selection on NEW and USED
                             CD-ROM Drives!!

                        This months special are:
       Philips CM-215/10, SCSI-2, 360/150, MS Photo, with SCSI Card
                                $200.00 ea
       Philips CM-206/10, AT BUS, 325/300, MS Photo, D.Speed w/card
                                $239.00 ea

         >>>>DEALER PRICING IS AVAILABLE TO ALL RESELLERS TOO!<<<<

   *********************************************************************
   * Toshiba 3101B (N)............$219.00  INT,SCSI,BARE,300MS,BUYOUTS
   * Toshiba 3401B (N)............$389.00  INT,SCSI,BARE,200MS,D-SPD
   * Panasonic CR-562B (FN).......$259.00  INT,AT BUS,D-SPD COMPLETE!
   * Sony CD-31A (FN).............$199.00  INT,AT BUS,I/O COMPLETE!
   * Sony CD-31A/03 (FN)..........$269.00  INT,AT BUS,D-SPD MPC 2
   * Hitachi CDR-101 (FN) (NEW)...$199.00  INT,AT BUS,I/O COMPLETE!
   * TEAC CD-50 (FN)..............$399.00  INT,SCSI,D-SPD,MPC 2,BARE!
NEW* Philips CM-215/10 (FN).......$200.00  INT,SCSI,PLUG AND PLAY!
NEW* Philips CM-206A (FN).........$239.00  INT,AT BUS,D-SPD,COMPLETE!
   * Philips CD-215/01 (FN).......$175.00  INT,SCSI,BARE DRIVE
   * NEC Model-36 (U).............$125.00  EXT,SCSI,NO SCSI CARD
   * PIONEER DRM-604X(FN)........$1289.00  PWR/AUD CORDS,MAGAZINE,DRVR
WOW* PIONEER DRM-600A(FD).........$799.00  PWR/AUD CORDS,FULL WARRANTY
   * TRANTOR T-130 SCSI CARD.......$74.00  25PIN EXTERNAL CONNECTIONS!
   * FUTURE DOMAIN 8BIT SCSI.......$42.00  25PIN EXTERNAL CONNECTIONS!
   *********************************************************************
         IF YOU ARE IN THE MARKET FOR A PIONEER DRM-600A, WE HAVE
         SEVERAL PIONEER UNITS IN STOCK NOW. PLACE YOU ORDER TODAY
         TO AVOID THE DISAPPOINTMENT MANY PEOPLE ARE HAVING DUE TO
         THE UNIT BEING DISCONTINUED BY PIONEER!

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              (FD)Factory Demos, ASK ABOUT THE WARRANTY!!
         These units are GREAT BUYS, don't delay, call today!!!!!!!

                             MEG*A*BITE
                 " Your CD-ROM drive headquarters "
                         VOICE (517)892-5518
                         FAX   (517)892-5965


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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 8872
  To: JEFF WEISS                               Date: 12/17/93  8:32p
Subj: Re: *~ Mitsumi 2X Cd-rom                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



                     -|-  Quoting Jeff Weiss to All  -|-

 JW> Mitsumi FX001D double-speed internal CD-ROM  ---  $229
 JW> 300 - 350 KBPS sustained throughput
 JW> 280 - 250 ms average access time
 JW> AT bus interface card included
 JW> All necessary signal and audio cables included
 JW> All necessary install software and manuals included
 JW> caddyless front loading tray (takes 3" CDs as well)
 JW> headphone jack with volume control

Jeff, interested in a trade?  I have a SyQuest 44M removable SCSI
drive, with 1 cartridge and 8-bit controller/cable available to
offer in trade.  The drive is in perfect working order and *GUARANTEED*
against DOA. Echo back if interested, enquiring minds wanna know  *8)

,\\ark


                                ,\\ark Johnsen
                               10B Texas Street
                          Satellite Beach, Fl  32937
                      (407) 773-4339 [5:30 - 10pm, EST]
 
... I suffer from a personality disorder, and so do I
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From: DAVID HILL                             Number: 8873
  To: JEFF HUBERT                              Date: 12/17/93  7:39p
Subj: Re: Games and cd-roms                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jeff, who are you????

I know nothing about CD-ROM's.....

bye.

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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 8874
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 12/12/93  2:18p
Subj: Re: CDROMs Wanted (games)               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Heather Krause to Christopher Sloan <=-

HK> I just finished Return To Zork on CD and am interested in
 HK> selling it.  Includes all original
 HK> packaging and docs. Asking $35 plus $3 for shipping.
 
    Are you interested in a trade? I have the following:
    King's Quest VI
    Multimedia Beethoven
    USA Wars:Civil War
    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det Vol I
    National Parks

      If interested call 809-293-5375 or leave message.

                         Mike



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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 8875
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/12/93  4:21p
Subj: Cd's for trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following for trade:


King's Quest VI

USA Wars:Civil War

Multimedia Beethoven

Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective vol I

National Parks

Software Jukebox (Links,Faces Tris III, Jetfighter, 
                   Berenstein Bears Fun With Color)

               Call 809-293-5375 if interested or post a message


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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 8876
  To: DOUG HUNKELE                             Date: 12/17/93  4:40p
Subj: CD ROM DRIVE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Boris,

 > After our talk the other day can you RECOMMEND a CD ROM player to
 > replace the mitsumi drives I have...it doesn't have to be fast as the
 > mitsumi's are fast enough for my bbs use.  To refresh your memory, i
 > need a drive that can read the HOBBES OS/2 CD and others that are
 > filled above 540Meg (limit of Mitsumi's)....

 > Thanks...

 > Doug

I was wondering if maybe you had one of the very old non-mpc drives, I have a
mitsumi and I have read disces up to 695+ megs with no problems, the book does
say 540 is the limit but it isn't so far? Just curios is all I did have trouble
with the 700 meg once but after that no more problems, it must have been dirt
or so on the lens.

                                      Mike Harris

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8877
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/18/93  2:33a
Subj: HOT CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            C R E A M     O F     T H E     C R O P    I I

OVER 654 MEGS New Shareware   4987 Files Dated '93'  Dup Checked
Virus Checked                 Files.BBS Support      Multi Line Discription
Mouse Support Menu            14Megs Prog Code       Plus MORE !!!
Only 200 prog Older Than April '93' - 10% Dup to NO10, Pier3, Software Gold

                               PRICE - $25.

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263   FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: MICHAEL MURPHY                         Number: 8878
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/17/93  2:41p
Subj: Software & CD's 4 sale!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following software for sale:

Police Quest I (VGA version, 3 1/2) ..................... $25
Red Baron (SVGA only version - 3 1/2)
          (VGA and lower - 5 1/4) ....................... $30
Gold Rush! (BOTH - VGA or lower) ........................ $20
Quest for Glory III (SVGA version, 3 1/2) ............... $35
The New PrintShop (5 1/4) ............................... $20
The New PrintShop Companion (BOTH) ...................... $20
MCS Stereo - for Windows (3 1/2) ........................ $30
Norton AntiVirus v.2.0 (3 1/2 - no box) ................. $30
Learn CAD Now (Book that includes 5 1/4 disks) .......... $20
Night Owl's 10 CD ....................................... $30 *SOLD*
Encyclopedia of Sound CD vol. 1 ......................... $15

All contain boxes, original disks, and ALL docs, unless otherwise specified.
If you would like further infomation on any of the above, leave me a message
stating what you would like to know more about.  I will give you a complete,
detailed description of it.  Both of the CD's have original cases and are in
mint condition (no scratches, etc.).  Buyer pays shipping charges.
I will consider trades or other reasonable offers.  
If interested, leave me a message at the address below or call (817) 540-6489
(4pm - 10pm CST).
Thanks,
Michael




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From: DONALD WEN                             Number: 8879
  To: KEITH LOONEY                             Date: 12/17/93 11:40p
Subj: Nec driver                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 14 Dec 93 01:43pm, KEITH LOONEY wrote to ALL:

 KL> Help! I'm looking for a nec driver for a mac. I tried calling NEC and
 KL> spent over 1/2 hour being switched from one department to another.
 KL> Does anyone have the latest driver for sale? The kit number is
 KL> cdma-002.

YES!!!  I have one here that I got with the purchase of a NEC drive, but I'm
using it for my PC so the driver kit is sitting on a shelf now.  I opened the
shrink wrap just for curiosity, but I did not open the sealed envelope
containing the diskette and the manual.  There's also a set of plug-in-ear type
headphones in a reel-type container.  If you're interested, please reply here
or call (415)753-1883 in San Francisco, CA.  I would like to sell it for $30
shipped.  Oh, please call for speedier response.  Or if you think the deal is
fair to you, send payment to:
               Donald Wen
               646 Clarendon Ave.
               San Francisco, CA 94131

Looking forward to hear from you soon.


DONALD WEN

 * Evaluation copy of Silver Xpress. Day # 19
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From: MICHAEL GUIDRY                         Number: 8880
  To: RICHARD JOHNSON                          Date: 12/18/93  8:15a
Subj: Cd Test Program                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

There is a program on The Animals! disc called cdtest.exe that will test
cd speed.  the command line is:

cdtest.exe  "filename"

It reads the file and gives you the speed results. It tests sequential
read data rate and random access read data rate. The results it gave me
were appropriate for my drive, so it apparently works.



... The pain-in-the-butt who made Marv write Win_Mail
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From: HERB ZWIRN                             Number: 8881
  To: DAVID MOLDOVAN                           Date: 12/17/93  9:13p
Subj: For Sale!                               Refer: NONE
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->(1:272/54)
 
 DM>A) UltraStor UltraSCSI Kit (34F SCSI-II bus master card with drivers
 DM>                           for everything SCSI.  Supports SCSI-I,
 DM>                           SCSI-2, DOS, Windows, and OS/2)
 
 DM>  The card is brand new and still in shrink wrap.  $175 firm
 
 DM>B) Panasonic KX-T3980, 2 line, 10 channel, cordless phone.  About 10
 DM>  years old (only kidding, only about 4 months old).  Comes with
 DM>  2 year extended warranty covering almost everything.  $125 OBO
 
 If this supports sound cards too, I'm ready.
 
 Anything you need that we might be able to trade?????????
 
 How do we make contact?
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From: HERB ZWIRN                             Number: 8882
  To: DAVID MOLDOVAN                           Date: 12/17/93  9:22p
Subj: For Sale!                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->(1:272/54)
 
 DM>A) UltraStor UltraSCSI Kit (34F SCSI-II bus master card with drivers
 DM>                           for everything SCSI.  Supports SCSI-I,
 DM>                           SCSI-2, DOS, Windows, and OS/2)
 
 DM>  The card is brand new and still in shrink wrap.  $175 firm
 
 DM>B) Panasonic KX-T3980, 2 line, 10 channel, cordless phone.  About 10
 DM>  years old (only kidding, only about 4 months old).  Comes with
 DM>  2 year extended warranty covering almost everything.  $125 OBO
 
 If this supports sound cards too, I'm ready.
 
 Anything you need that we might be able to trade?????????
 
 How do we make contact?
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8883
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/17/93  6:03p
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices11/23/9                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 On 12-14-93 Mike Shannon wrote to Richard Carter... 
 
 MS> That's very impressive, but please exercise caution:  These wild-eyed 
 MS> and 
 MS> frenzied backpatting episodes can sometimes result in multiple 
 MS> fractures to 
 MS> the forearm.  Please consult a physician before continuing.  8) 
 MS> 
You made a statement, I responded.  The above wouldn't be a threat 
of physical harm would it? 
 
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8884
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/17/93  6:18p
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices12/17/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>ComputerHelp is Happy to Announce We Are Currently< 
>Offering EMS Professional Software's CRDOM Discs!!!< 
 
If you are PC-based or Windows-based and Have Liked the 
Shareware & Utility CDROM Discs on the Market, We Believe 
You Will Really See Added Value in These Discs!!!  "WE DO!!!!" 
 
EMS Has Changed Their Format Recently and Made Their Discs 
Much More User Friendly.  We Don't Want To Take Too Much 
Space Here, But the EMS 2-Disc Set is $59.95 + shipping. 
 
If You Are Curious About the Discs, We Have a SPECIAL For YOU!!! 
We Have Sampler Single Disks (that are 1 rev -- or about 
2 months -- old).  They are the discs only, without the indexes, 
COMPLETELY FUNCTIONAL AND WITH ALL THE DATA!!! 
 
They include utilities and programs covering:  ASM, C, C++, 
AutoCAD, Xbase, DOS, Games, Hardware Demos, HomePC, Jokes, 
Multimedia, Netware, ObjectVision, Quick Basic, Paradox, 
Small Business, TrueType Fonts, TurboPascal, Visual Basic, 
Windows, and a PC Products Database. 
 
Personally, this disc has been a real resource for us in our 
computer room.  (Previously, it was just the way they handled 
their indexing that bothered us.)  They have changed that in the 
Current versions.  Remember, the Full-Fledged current versions 
are Currently $59.95 from EMS; Our Sale Price is $49.95. 
THESE VERY SPECIAL SINGLE DISC SAMPLERS ARE ON SALE FOR $12, 
INCLUDING SHIPPING! 
 
There are about 150 of these Sampler Single Discs currently available. 
 
As always, If You are Not Happy With Any Product from Us, We 
Will Take it Back within 30-days of date of purchase.  Your only 
expense would be freight/shipping. 
 
"WE WANT YOU HAPPY AND TO COME BACK THE NEXT TIME YOU ARE IN THE MARKET!" 
 
Thanks, 
Richard Carter 
___----------------------      ------------------      -------------------- 
 
 
            Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM Disc's 
 
          from:     ComputerHelp 
                    PO Box 385041 
                    Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
               Ph:  (612) 890-4750, (800) 514-7071 
                    Fax:  (612) 894-9411 
 
(as of 12/09/93) 
          SIMTEL MSDOS               $13.00 
          CICA MS Windows            $13.00 
          Hobbes OS/2                $13.00 
          Aminet Amiga               $13.00 
          Garbo MSDOS/Mac            $13.00 
          Sprite OS                  $13.00 
          QRZ! Ham Radio             $13.00 
          ADA Programming            $18.50 
          GIGA Games                 $18.50 
          La Coleccion               $18.50 
          Nova for NeXTs             $18.50 
          Project Gutenberg          $18.50 
          Source Code                $18.50

          X11/GNU                    $18.50 
          Info-Mac                   $25.50 
          CUG Library                $23.50 
          Linux                      $23.50 
          Libris Britannia           $34.00 
          Space and Astronomy        $18.50 
 
                  ***SPECIAL***SPECIAL***SPECIAL*** 
     =>>> Order 3 at once and take an Extra $1 Off of Each <<<= 
        (Limited Time Offer!!! Print and enclose this ad with 
                your order.  Good through 12/31/93!!!!) 


Shipping:      1-3 discs in one order = $4.50, 4-10 discs in one 
order = $6.50. 
          (MN residents add 6.5% sales tax).

 
          All prices subject to change without notice. 
          "Yes Mildred, we do take personal cheques!" 
 
All orders by pre-payment, (you want cheap prices....); send to 
address above.  Call with any questions.  (Sorry, we don't accept 
credit cards:  they add to the 
    price and we want to be able to offer you the CHEAPEST PRICES 
   AVAILABLE.  "Thank You for Your Support!!!    -  Richard Carter 
                             ORDER FORM 
 
YES!  Please accept my order for: 
 
  Quantity          Item:         Price Each:   Extension: 
     : 
            SIMTEL MSDOS          $13.00 
            CICA MS Windows       $13.00 
            Hobbes OS/2           $13.00 
            Aminet Amiga          $13.00 
            Garbo MSDOS/Mac       $13.00 
            Sprite OS             $13.00 
            QRZ! Ham Radio        $13.00 
            ADA Programming       $18.50 
            GIGA Games            $18.50 
            La Coleccion          $18.50 
            Nova for NeXTs        $18.50

            Project Gutenberg     $18.50 
            Source Code           $18.50 
            X11/GNU               $18.50 
            Info-Mac              $25.50 
            CUG Library           $23.50 
            Linux                 $23.50 
            Libris Britannia      $34.00 
            Space and Astronomy   $18.50 
            EMS 1-Disc SAMPLER    $12.00 ** 
                                  SubTotal:     $ 
                                  TX (MN Only)  $ 
                                  Shipping      $ 
                                  TOTAL:        $ 
 
Shipping: $4.50 for 1-3 discs, $6.50 for 4-10 discs, Call for 
           quantities larger than 10 discs. 
           ** No Shipping Charges on the EMS Sampler! 
          If you have an existing FedEX acct and want to charge to 
           it,  "No Problem!" 
          We Do COD, but only with FedEX, and by Cashiers Cheque 
           (it's expensive, but on large orders it might be worth 
           looking at). 
 
Sales Tax:     MN Only!!  6.5% 
 
We DO Accept Cheques (Personal & Business held for 5 days to clear; 
     Money Orders & Cashiers Cheques ship same day as in stock). 
 
Call With Any Questions, "We Are Here to Serve Your Needs!" 
 
Please Ship TO: 
  Name: 
  Street Address: 
  City:                      State:         Zip: 
  My Home Phone is:  (      ) My Work Phone is:  (      ) 


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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 8885
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/17/93  6:18p
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices12/17/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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   (In case we have a question [or 2] regarding your order) 
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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 8886
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/16/93  9:30p
Subj: CENSORSHIP                              Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hello Mike!

Monday December 13 1993 23:59, Mike Shannon wrote to Dave Reed:

 MS> I'm happy just as long as Sears and Penneys keep the lingerie pictures in
 MS> their catalogs. <g>

That reminds me of a story... oooooh, Tim's going to get pissed here pretty
soon, so I'll cut it short:

I had a neighbor one time who felt sorry for me, in that my girlfriend lived in
Yakima while I lived in Tacoma.  My neighbor (a friendly, single, female school
teacher) ripped out the lingerie sections of all her catalogs and brought them
over to my house.  As I was trying to figure out the hidden meaning behind such
actions, she.... (I ain't gonna tell ya here.  I'll tell ya on the phone) ;-)

Later,

Dave

... The word "honor" is not in the Clinton dictionary.

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 8887
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/16/93  9:34p
Subj: Forbidden Subjects CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hello Mike!

Tuesday December 14 1993 00:00, Mike Shannon wrote to Hayden Bradshaw:

 HB>> Well, for starters, it has GIFs showing such things as people (or what's
 HB>> left of them) fatally injured by bomb blasts; executed by guillotine;
 HB>> some having had radical surgery performed to various extremities of
 HB>> their bodies; infants who have been crushed in car accidents; previously
 HB>> unreleased (and for good reason) photos of murder victims; and so many
 HB>> more "delightful" things to feed ones mind on.

Cool!  Where can I get this?

Later,

Dave

... Clinton Voter:  "Will Work for Food!"

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 8888
  To: GENE MILLSAPS                            Date: 12/16/93  9:35p
Subj: Incomplete order                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Gene!

Sunday December 12 1993 23:22, Gene Millsaps wrote to Dave Reed:

 GM> We appreciate your thoughts on the matter.  You, and perhaps Doug, make
 GM> some sense, except that these echo adv's make no reference to the reduced
 GM> documentation or reduced feature set supplied with these offerings.  I
 GM> don't mind making an informed decision, even buying less product when I
 GM> believe that I can work around the omitted items, but I saw no indications
 GM> of these shortcomings.  In some cases these differences can mean the
 GM> difference in successful use of the CD-ROM, as in the case of our crippled
 GM> Dinosaur Adventure.

Most often, the distributors don't even know what the difference is, so
expecting the dealer to know is asking a bit much.  :-)

 GM> And I doubt we'd need to pay twice the echo's prevailing prices for
 GM> complete software, as these conference prices are considerably more than
 GM> half the retail prices I've seen in Babbages, CompUSA, and magazine mail
 GM> order house ads.

You're right.  I was merely trying to make a point, but it appears that you at
least know what I was trying to say.

 GM>   I had expected the echo's retailers were passing on some
 GM> of their savings in overhead and shop costs, not selling us reduced
 GM> versions of the software.  Are these reduced versions actually authorized
 GM> releases from the manufacturers?

Yes.  There is not much "theft" in this industry, with the exception of the
adult stuff (excluding licensed collections like those Lee Noga is putting
together).  There are definately AT LEAST two seperate markets for CD-ROMs. The
usual retail channels are a lot more choosy about which products they'll put on
their shelves.  Many products make it first in this market, then work their way
into the normal retail channels.

 GM> These CD-ROM shops deserve a fair shake, but so do we buyers.

I agree with you 100%.

 GM> Hoping you find your echoes elating . . .

Thank-you, and Merry Christmas!

Later,

Dave


... At least Gennifer got kissed first.

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 8889
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/16/93 11:59p
Subj: 7 Bay SCSI Cases                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

7 Bay SCSI Cases for Sysops!..These cases will handle up to 7 half-height 5.25
size CD-ROM drives or HD drives. Comes with complete cabling. Made in USA $250.
Available thru GroupWare!..
For more information
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409 1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX 

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From: ROBBIE HESSLER                         Number: 8890
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 12/17/93  5:54p
Subj: ADULT CD FOR SALE/TRADE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I have a copy of the adult CD "T&A to the Maxx" for sale/trade.
 > I'll
 > take $15 (shipped) or trade even for another adult GIF CD I
 > don't have.
 > If interested, call me @ (713) 488-0065 between 6-9 p.m. CST.

    What is the stats for this CD I might be interested.  Like what file
formats, how many files, etc.

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From: DAVID SIGLIN                           Number: 8891
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 12/17/93  6:41p
Subj: Big Sky Special                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jim,
  I am intersested in getting a copy of your CD-ROM catalog. I run a small
Radio Shack and believe this may be a good seller. please gaet back to me at
(901) 476-7171 during business hours or leave me a message here on the echo.

Thanks in advance
Dave


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From: DOUG HUNKELE                           Number: 8892
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 12/17/93  6:08a
Subj: Cd rom drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JM >  The Mitsumi LU002S I recently sold, and the Mitsumi LU005S
JM >  I now have, each have read every file on every CD-ROM in
JM >  the place, (about 50 or so), including especially the
JM >  Hobbes discs I've fed them.
JM >  I've been places where a system would choke and puke on
JM >  various discs, but the brand of drive had little to do
JM >  with it; more often than not, it was inadequate memory
JM >  available to deal with the directories.

Jerry,  maybe you can help, i am running two mitsumi's, have been for about a
year now with no problems until i tried the Hobbs OS/2 (Oct 93)... i have
tried to read it with the bbs software up and running AND without anything
running but DOS...when i boot my system with the cd in either of the drives
the system dosen't even recognize the drive anymore, if i swap disc the drive
just sits there with no action what so ever...i have feed these drives night
owls, BBII, 5 Star Monster series, Cream of the Crop, So Much Stareware, and a
host of other CD's with no problem either.  My conversation with Boris relayed
the same and he memtioned that the Hobbes is over 540M of files, the limit of
the mitsumi's (which is printed in the specifications of the drive in my
manual)...i don't have access to another drive to see if the hobbs disc is
good or bad....ANY SUGGESTIONS

Doug

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From: ZACHARY HAMM                           Number: 8893
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/17/93  2:14p
Subj: STUFF FOR SALE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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         ßß      ßßßßßß  ßß  ßß       ßßßßßß  ßß  ßß  ßßßßßß  ßßßßßß

Hardware:  All items are guaranteed against DOA.  Buyer pays shipping.
           All items are used unless otherwise noted.  All prices are
           firm.


       486DX-33Mhz VESA Local Bus MB with 256K cache,
       3 VLB slots, 5 16-bit slots.  Upgradable to
       66Mhz or Pentium.                                         $395.00

       Tandberg 3660 250M SCSI tape backup, Internal             $275.00
       Add $35.00 for external case.

       Fujitsu 525M 3.5" SCSI-2 HDD.  13ms access, 3 mos old.    $500.00
       Adaptec 1542B SCSI adapter.  16-bit, busmastering.        $130.00
       Eight 1M SIMMS, 70ns                                      $ 40.00/ea
       Realysis 14" SVGA NI monitor .28dp. 1024x768              $220.00
       Cirrus 5428 VESA Local Bus SVGA card with 1M.             $100.00
       Sound Blaster Pro Basic                                   $100.00



       Hayes 1200 baud internal modem                            $ 10.00
       Generic Internal 2400 baud modem                          $ 25.00


Software:  All items are used but unregistered unless otherwise
           noted.

       IBM OS/2 2.1 CD-ROM Version, not registered.              $110.00
       Mustang Qmodem 4.5                                        $ 20.00
       Mustang Wildcat ver 3.9S, Robocomm 4.1, Doorway 2.2,
       WCedit, various utils.  Everything for a BBS. Includes
       SDN+ CD-ROM, 1992.  BBS Ready, over 600M of files.        $100.00

Call 919-217-8333 (voice) or reply with Email with phone number.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 8894
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 12/18/93  7:10a
Subj: ADULT CD FOR SALE/TRA                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry, already sold.

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From: JIM THOMAS                             Number: 8895
  To: HOWARD RICE                              Date: 12/18/93  9:37a
Subj: 4 TITLES $45                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

COULD GO $40 SHIPPED FOR THESE TITLES ECHO HERE OF CALL JIM THOMAS
(813)472-3266 THANKS, JIM
 HR> Mavis Teaches Typing
 HR> World Atlas
 HR> Us Atlas
 HR> Chess Master 3000

 HR> PC versions on one disk.  $45+4shipping.

 HR>   Howard Rice 708-433-0074  Days & sometimes late PM.
 HR>   1805 St.Johns Ave. Highland Park, IL. 60035
 HR> --- FidoPCB v1.4 [f0f92/b]
 HR>  * Origin: NezulD's DomaiN - 9 Lines 13.5 GIG (1:115/300)

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 8896
  To: JOHN HUNTER                              Date: 12/17/93  1:51p
Subj: Pro phone cd                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JH>Does anyone happen to have a copy of the 92 Pro Phone CD <business>?
JH>New or used.                             ^^

JH>How Much?
JH>Name and Address Please.
JH>Thanks !

I have available one opened/unused copy of American Business Phone Book, mfr:
American Business Information, and it's the June 1992 update version.  Here's a
quick look at the dir /w/s:

 Volume in drive G is

Directory of G:\

[B]                  [INSTALL]         INSTALL.EXE     [S]                
___0692A
        5 file(s)      70658 bytes

Directory of G:\B

[.]                  [..]              D               E               H
I                O
        7 file(s)  592181459 bytes

Directory of G:\INSTALL

[.]                  [..]              ABPB.001
        3 file(s)     324096 bytes

Directory of G:\S

[.]                  [..]              O1              O2              S1
S2
        6 file(s)   10625118 bytes

Total files listed:
       21 file(s)  603201331 bytes
                           0 bytes free

If this is what you want, let me know if $12.90 is satisfactory.  If it is,
I'll send my address by netmail.

the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio, USA

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From: NINO FAGAN                             Number: 8897
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 12/16/93  5:05p
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices12/12/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Richard Carter wrote  
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
:>(as of 12/09/93)
:>          SIMTEL MSDOS               $13.00
:>          ADA Programming            $18.50
:>          Linux                      $23.50 
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

Disks arrived safely.  They are awesome!  Thanks.

Regards, 
Nino
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From: ELDON WAKEFIELD                        Number: 8898
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/17/93  6:54a
Subj: Re: CD'S                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > 
 > Monday December 13 1993, Eldon Wakefield writes to Pat Rickerson:
 > 
 > OK, for got your address please send it, thanks
Ok Pat it's 816 Belvedere Drive
            Columbus Ga. 31907
You have a merry Xmas and a happy new year also this goes for any one else
reading this Eldon


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From: RICK PEDLEY                            Number: 8899
  To: MATTHEW LYNCH                            Date: 12/18/93 10:56a
Subj: Anyone got a....                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ML>Hello All!

ML>Hey out there....  Does anyone have a Battle Chess Enhanced CD or a
ML>Chess Master 3000 (or National Lampoon's Chess Master 5
ML>Billion, for that matter)

No but I got suckered into buying the old, cruddy Battle Chess thinking it was
the `enhanced' version, not knowing they'd done two different CD's :-(

Rick

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 8900
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 12/18/93  1:40p
Subj: News: cd-rom ring busted                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

=============================================================================
* Forwarded by Dave Reed (1:344/79)
* Area : CDROM (FidoNet: CD-ROM Technical Support)
* From : Danny Tong, 1:125/217 (Tuesday December 14 1993 18:52)
* To   : All
* Subj : News: cd-rom ring busted
=============================================================================
Edited from a 12/10/93 newswire:

Federal officials have announced the first software piracy case involving
counterfeit CD-ROM, programs. Authorities dismantled C-88 International Corp of
Fremont, CA for importing bootlegged discs from Hong Kong and packaging them
with personal computers.

There were about 900 counterfeit CD-ROM discs and 18,000 software manuals. The
counterfeit discs included popular games, encyclopedia and desk reference
titles from Groliers Inc, The Software Toolworks, and Lucasfilm Games. They
were to be sold as if they had been distributed by The Software Toolworks. Some
of the discs were defective, the packaging was shoddy and the packages on some
of the products were misspelled.

Computer software piracy has been a growing problem in recent years. Some
estimates put the losses to American software producers at $1B annually.
===
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Hello Ismail!

Just thought you'd be interested in this.  Be careful!


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 8901
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/18/93  1:48p
Subj: BUSTY BABES VOLUME II                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Lee!

Thursday December 16 1993 12:12, Lee Noga wrote to Dennis Henderson:

 LN> Egads...... and BTW, I bet you wife is beautiful, and I applaud you coming
 LN> forward but don't tease me about something I CAN'T HAVE <big grin>

You want to "have" his wife?



... Genetics: proof that Mother Nature gambles.  Clinton: proof she lost!

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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 8902
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/17/93  4:24p
Subj: Cinemania Wanted                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for the latest version of MS Cinemania for Windows...


Ron


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From: ANTHONY FURGISON                       Number: 8903
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/18/93  3:05a
Subj: Hitachi CDROMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for a couple of Hitachi 3500 or 3750 cdroms. I have the card just
need 2 more roms.  Contact me here or at my BBS, The Space Station 914-292-0670
or FidoNet 1:272/111.

Thanks
Tony

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From: ANTHONY FURGISON                       Number: 8904
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/18/93  3:08a
Subj: Re: CD's for sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris,
Got your catalog. Thanks alot. Like the selection will be ordering within a few
days. Do you ship COD or not. Would like for Christmas but can wait. Will send
check monday.

Thanks,
Tony Furgison, The Space Station - 1:272/111

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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 8905
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/18/93  3:22p
Subj: Canadian CD Distributors                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for the Best Prices on CDs in Canada?

Call us for your FREE catalogue or Price Quotation.  Find a better
regularly-priced in-stock CD-ROM title advertised in Canada, we'll match
it, and throw in the shipping for your trouble!:

HRB Computer Services
14 Hollis Crescent
Holland Landing, Ontario
L9N 1E7

Information and Fax line:  (905) 830-1615
Toll-Free Canada-Wide (ORDERS ONLY):  1-800-265-7081

800 titles and growing!!!  (No Adult or XXX titles.)
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 8906
  To: ED DUCHECK                               Date: 12/18/93  1:51p
Subj: Sound library                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the Multimedia Audio Collection for sale.  One CD comes with the
following programs on it(usually on individual cd's):
Multimedia Sound studio
Sound Effects Library
World of Music Sampler
Music Mentor
Recording Session
Band in a Box
NotePlay
All on the one CD!  My price on this is $25 + $3 for P&H(thats 2-day air

If you still have this I want it, let me know where to send check.
 
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 8907
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 12/18/93  1:51p
Subj: Looking for.                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am willing to pay by check or mo for these used games.

CD's:
Hell Cab
Dracula Unleahed
Day of the Tentacle
Indy Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
cd with games by ACCESS
Lord of the Rings
 
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From: JOHN DUIJS                             Number: 8908
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 12/17/93  3:58a
Subj: Censorship                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dear Dave,

 > PS> The latest issue of PC Magazine informs all readers that they will no
  > longer accept adds of an ADULT nature with Graphics.  I note that the

  > To all, why not let PC Mag know how you feel about the issue.

 > Considering that younger people read this magazine I think it GREAT!  I
 > myself own quite a few Adult CD's but PC Magazine is the LAST place I
 > would
 > want to see them advertised, especially with graphics.

I kept thinking that this area was meant to inform all and sundry about new CD
ROMs, but now it seems it is one more channel through which to export the
bourgeois hangups about sex of a slice of middle class America which they
mistake for culture or family values. Please, don't.

Greetinx.

JOHN

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From: MIKE STEFFEN                           Number: 8909
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/18/93  7:12a
Subj: Adult CD trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: trade BB CD
BY: Greg Sterling (1:2601/506)

> I would like to trade Busty Babes 3, vol 1 for another adult Cd, or a 1megx9 


Greg...no longer have XXX Extreme, but would trade the new APL adult CD for
that Busty Babes 3.  I can be reached at 1-319-234-0938 CST or leave your
number and I will call.
Mike

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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 8910
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 12/16/93 10:26p
Subj: Cd rom drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JM> there is absolutely NO truth to any such limits at all! 
 JM>  The Mitsumi LU002S I recently sold, and the Mitsumi 
 JM> LU005S I now have, each have read every file on every 
 JM> CD-ROM in the place, (about 50 or so), including 
 JM> especially the Hobbes discs I've fed them.  Even 
 JM> Gigabyte Gold was no challenge for either of them.

I bought an 8-bit 600ms Mitsumi in May.  It will read exactly three discs, and
those with a lot of errors.  I bought a 16-bit 350ms Mitsumi in October.  It
will read every disc I have.  The 8-bit machine will not read Night Owl 7 or
either Shareware Studio vol 1 or 2.  The 8-bit will not read PC-SIG 12.  The
16-bit will.

 JM> I've been places where a system would choke and puke on 
 JM> various discs, but the brand of drive had little to do 
 JM> with it; more often than not, it was inadequate memory 
 JM> available to deal with the directories.

This is in the same system, same configuration, same everything but the drives.

 JM> Think for just a moment: if the Mitsumi brand of drives 
 JM> was all that bad, would IBM support them so strongly 
 JM> that they would automagically install the OS/2 2.1 GA 
 JM> directly from CD-ROM?  Mine did, and many others have.

IBM has big enough pockets and buys enough drives that if they have a problem,
Mitsumi jumps into gear and finds out what the problem is(probably sends them a
new drive immediately).  When I call I get a guy that barely speaks English,
and since I don't speak Chinese, we're at an impasse.

 JM> You're quite welcome to buy as many drives as you wish, 
 JM> and to have whatever opinions you want.  But please 
 JM> stop spreading this untrue rumor.  I grant that the 
 JM> Mitsumi is not the Rolls Royce of the CD-ROM world.  
 JM> But it is not some form of impotent leper either.

My problems with Mitsumi are true.  I'm out $199 for a drive that won't read my
CDs.  The vendor I bought it from says that they've never had a problem.  When
I tell them that I've got one and want to bring the drive in so they can hook
it up and check it out, theu say they don't have any systems with which to do
so.  These people build systems for a living!  Mitsumi won't stand behind it. 
It apparently has _some_ kind of disease.

My 16-bit Mitsumi is a fine machine, but IMO there is a real problem with the
8-bit drives.  I just wish Mitsumi would be more discriminating in who they
allow to market their drives, and pay more attention to customer service.


                                    Ron

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From: JEREMY MILLER                          Number: 8911
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/17/93  6:35p
Subj: Cd-Roms                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Can anybody tell me or give me numbers where I can purchase cheap
Cd-ROMs.  Also, can anybody tell me if the following CD games are worth buying.

7th Guest
Return to Zork
Star Wars Chess
Terminator:  Future War (In the sane style as Wolfenstein 3-D)


Thanks.



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From: KEI LAU                                Number: 8912
  To: TOBIRO MCMURTRY                          Date: 12/17/93 11:53p
Subj: Re: Buying a CD-ROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TM> Wow, I knew nothing about CD rom. I want to get one soon,
 TM> but was advised to wait until the prices went down - now that

   If you have a CD ROM use in mind, don't wait.  If you are not
   going to use it right the way, don't buy.  CD ROM is going to
   get cheaper AND better performance in the next few years.

 TM> the new 3x speed drives are out. So, cache is really important?
 TM> How much does cache size effect prices? Are most manufactuers
 TM> offering a wide range of cache sizes? 256k is the max?

   It can be from 0 to 256K for single disk consumer models.
   High end multiple disk drivers are exceptions.  Texel and
   earlier Toshiba drivers run quite well with 64K.  All current
   Texel, Toshiba and NEC top of the line models have 256K.

 TM> What I got from your message was that you can get flawless
 TM> video from a single speed drive with a big cache... correct?

   Not quite!  Current movie or animation CD ROM are mostly
   320x200 (full or quarter screen) with limited color depth, at
   15 frames per second. They run well quite with many older
   single speed drives with 64K cache and most of the newer
   inexpensive double spin drives. I expect the CD ROM movie to
   improve repaidly in resolution, color and speed.  In the near
   future, you will need not only the fast CD ROM, but also fast
   CPU and the right video card when high resolution and 30
   frames per second video becomes popular.  All I intended to
   say was that the user should not be fooled by cheap CD ROM
   drive advertised as double speed.  In side by side
   comparison, some of them which does not have a good cache
   perform poorly compared to better quality single speed
   drive.  The transfer rate is not nearly as important as good
   cache design and small seek time.

TM> What are the benifits of a 2x or 3x drive? Thanks for your
TM> time.

   If everything else being equal, the double spin drive pause
   less frequently than the single speed one.  The 3X drive does
   not provide significant advantage over 2X due limits of current
   software, but, according to NEC, will shine when the next
   generation software comes.

Kei Lau

... Silver Xpress....Now 100% QWK Compatible! More bang for your bucks!
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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 8913
  To: CHARLIE JARMAN                           Date: 12/18/93  8:38p
Subj: CDROM Caddies...                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CJ> JP> I am looking to buy 8 CDROM caddies for 8 Hitachi 3500 CDROM drives.
  > JP> Prices anyone?

CJ>        James, I can get those for $6.50 each (Quantity 100 or more) or
  >        $12.50 each. I get a great break at 100 quantity. :)
y

Thanks for offering but I've already ordered some at $4.50 each for just
the eight I needed....

James
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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 8914
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/18/93  1:13a
Subj: Bible CD's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific Pat Rickerson postulated to Charlie about Bible CD's Wanted...

 PR>> Have a Minister here that is looking for any Cd's, do you have any he

 CJ>         NightOwl v9 has more than 20 files with Bible in the
 CJ>         description...and many more with related topics. Also, Phoenix
 CJ>         3.0 has 60 (plus or minus) files that are religion related. I

 PR> Thanks will check that out.

        Let me know if I can help further. I would povide him free
        access to my BBS for d/l'ing these files if need be.

                                                        Charlie


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From: GREG MILLS                             Number: 8915
  To: R K                                      Date: 12/16/93  6:03p
Subj: Re: Wanted                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting R K to Greg Mills <=-

 RK> What do you need, the drives or the cd's? If you're looking for a
 RK> drive I have a external magnavox CDD 461 cdrom drive...willing to sell
 RK> for 120.00.....Interested, leave message. -!- FreeMail 1.09
 RK>  ! Origin: Bad Attitude BBS - Erie, PA - (814)864-1230 (1:2601/565)

    Just after some CD's.  Already have a drive or else I would jump on
    the next tour bus for Erie.  Not as many going down that way since the
    Cdn $ dropped.

... I do the work of three men - Larry, Curly and Moe
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From: DANNY TSENG                            Number: 8916
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/18/93  2:33p
Subj: OS/2 CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Hello ALL!

    I'm looking for a CD which has collected the newest shareware for OS/2 2.1.
Could anyone give me some suggestion?

-Danny : YXT0376@vaxa.isc.rit.edu

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8917
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/19/93  2:22a
Subj: HOT CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            C R E A M     O F     T H E     C R O P    I I

OVER 654 MEGS New Shareware   4987 Files Dated '93'  Dup Checked
Virus Checked                 Files.BBS Support      Multi Line Discription
Mouse Support Menu            14Megs Prog Code       Plus MORE !!!
Only 200 prog Older Than April '93' - 10% Dup to NO10, Pier3, Software Gold

DEALERS WELCOME.......      PRICE - $25.

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263   FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8918
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/19/93  2:22a
Subj: SPECIAL                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~[  S P E C I A L  B U N D L E S  ]~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1. Software Vault Gold     2. Night Owl 10.         3. Shareware Online 2
   Software Vault Games       Night Owl Games          Gameware
   Software Vault Windows     Night Owl Graphics       Soundware
   Price - $49.00             Price - $65.00           Price - $49.00

4. Hobbes OS/2 'NOV'       5. Tech Arsenal          6. Pier 3
   Window Users Arch          TechnoTool               Cream Of The Crop II
   Price - $30.00             Price - $30.00           Price - $45.00

   ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUE 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: DANNY BRIGANCE                         Number: 8919
  To: JERRY ZELLER                             Date: 12/18/93 11:14p
Subj: Bible Cd's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Jerry!

 JZ> Danny - have you received my check yet and have you sent the cd?  Jerry

The last time I checked it hadn't arrived, however I will pull my mail and
check tomorrow and if so will get the CD in the mail Monday morning.  Will let
you know when it is enroute.  Thanks...

Danny

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From: AL AGEE                                Number: 8920
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/18/93 11:56a
Subj: Custom cds                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   - Is your hard drive full?
   - Tired of waiting on that slow tape drive?
   - Lost under a mountain of floppies?

                   Make your own CD-ROM!

Put 600+ Megabytes of your proprietary data on a ISO 9660 standard CD for $125.
 Additional copies are only $99 each.

Send 600 MB of PC data on DC-2120 QIC-40 or QIC-80 tapes (Used by Colorado
Memory Systems tape drives). I will transfer your data to an ISO standard CD
and have it on its way back to you, usually within two days.

Perfect for a BBS SYSOP who is out of hard drive space. Distribute the
company's archived data to all offices. Programmers: Save high setup cost of CD
Mastering houses.

    - Safe. A virus can't attack files on a CD.
    - Secure. Once the data is on the CD, it can't be changed.
    - Inexpensive. CD backup costs as little as tape. Floppies
      cost more than the CD drive and tape drive combined!
    - Convenient.  No more swapping tapes and searching through
      floppies.
    - Compatible. Works under Windows or DOS. Share it on a LAN.
    - Fast.  Newer triple speed drives read at up to
      450K/sec...three times the speed of a floppy.  Eight times
      the speed of a tape.

Ship up to 600mb on QIC-40 or QIC-80 tapes and cashier's check or money order
for $125 ($99 for second copy) to:

                Allen Agee
                52 Sleepy Hollow Road
                Andover, New Jersey  07821-5000
                (201)786-7716

                          - the fine print - Personal checks must clear the
bank before the order is shipped.  You are responsible to ensure putting your
data on CD does not break any laws or copyright licenses.
===
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From: MARTIN YEE                             Number: 8921
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/18/93 10:43p
Subj: Macmillan dictionary sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Macmillan Dictionary for Children MPC CDROM w/warranty card but no box - $23.00
shipped.

Martin Yee

===
 * OLX 2.1 * MSI - Bringing it all together in '92


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From: DANNY BRIGANCE                         Number: 8922
  To: JERRY ZELLER                             Date: 12/19/93  4:04p
Subj: Bible Cd's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Jerry!

Saturday December 18 1993, Danny Brigance writes to Jerry Zeller:

 JZ>> Danny - have you received my check yet and have you sent the cd?
 JZ>> Jerry

 DB> The last time I checked it hadn't arrived, however I will pull my mail and
 DB> check tomorrow and if so will get the CD in the mail Monday morning.  Will
 DB> let you know when it is enroute.  Thanks...

Disregard all this mess.  I have the check and your CD is in the mail.  Thank
you sir kindly for doing business.....

Danny

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From: TIM SHEEHAN                            Number: 8923
  To: TERRY HAMILTON                           Date: 12/17/93  2:59p
Subj: Re: Q on Britannical CD                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I don't know if there is, but if so, you can count on it being VERY expensive 
(the encyclopedia (basic set) in books costs over $2000, I bet the price on 
discs would be similar (it would also probably be 3 or 4 discs at least))

-Tim

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From: RICK PEDLEY                            Number: 8924
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 12/19/93 11:28a
Subj: Busty Babes Volume II                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LN> Egads...... and BTW, I bet you wife is beautiful, and I applaud you coming
 LN> forward but don't tease me about something I CAN'T HAVE <big grin>

DR> You want to "have" his wife?

You got a problem with that, Dave? :-)

Rick

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From: LARRY ADAMSON                          Number: 8925
  To: DAVID MOLDOVAN                           Date: 12/19/93  8:18a
Subj: Re: For Sale!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

David, if you get no offers on the UltraStor UltraSCSI Kit, I will give you
100.00 for it. If interested respond to my netmail address 1:104/427.


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From: JOHN PARKER                            Number: 8926
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 12/19/93  3:07p
Subj: ADULT CD FOR SALE/TRADE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I have a copy of the adult CD "T&A to the Maxx" for sale/trade. I'll
-> take $15 (shipped) or trade even for another adult GIF CD I don't hav
Do you still have this disk? If you do I will take it for $15 including
shipping. Let me know. (Sorry I didn't call, but it is Sunday and I
wasn't sure if the time was appropriate.)
                   John

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From: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                       Number: 8927
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/18/93  5:58a
Subj: Pioneer Changers                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

Where is the best deal on a Pioneer DRM600A with controller and
software?
...Jeff...

 * WCE 1.10/2020 * Coffee sweetened with NO-DOZ...Programmers petro!


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From: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                       Number: 8928
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/18/93  6:12a
Subj: Sony 7205 wanted                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

I would like to buy one or two Sony 7205 at a decent price to
daisy chain with the ones I have.
...Jeff...

 * WCE 1.10/2020 * Coffee sweetened with NO-DOZ...Programmers petro!


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8929
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 12/16/93  6:24p
Subj: CD REVIEW MAGZINE                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> > Is Wayne Green back?

>Lost me on this one.

 Wayne Green is (was?) the owner/publisher/editor of CD Review.
 He's better known for his ownership/editorials in 73 magazine, though....


 * SLMR 2.1a * What's YOUR favorite color?

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8930
  To: CLIFF FIVEASH                            Date: 12/16/93  6:28p
Subj: PEIR 3                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>William, I fully realize that all Sysops can read and send private messages. I
>chose to send that message private because it was intended to be to the
>receiver only.

 Then it SHOULD have been sent via Net Mail. EchoMail and "private" are a
contradiction in terms.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Man made Booze. Gods made Grass. Which do YOU trust?

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8931
  To: CLIFF FIVEASH                            Date: 12/16/93  6:34p
Subj: PEIR 3                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Gary, Since I have only been BBSing for a couple of years, I asked a few Sysop
>friends wht the deal was on the "Private" marking that you can choose when you
>make replies. Also, what the difference was between echomail and netmail. They
>informed me that there is no difference between echomail and netmail

 You have been misinformed. EchoMail is a VERY specialised extension to Net
Mail, that bears little resemblance to the original except somewhat in the
mechanics of distribution.

 BTW - I've been a FidoNet sysop for appx. 8 years now, and a UseNet user for
over 10 - and EchoMail was derived in concept though not in execution from
UseNet news groups.

>if or when I choose the "Private" option, that only Sysops, Co-Sysops or
>someone that they have given "read access" to can read that message.

 Basically OK so far.

>They also told me that nothing would prevent, any one of these Sysops,
Co-Sysop
>or persons with Sysop-granted read access, from making my message available to
>general-user viewing, except for them possessing the qualities of a "GOOD
>SYSOP" that I alluded to in my message to William Wright.

 NOT accurate. Some mail PROCESSOR software automatically deletes EchoMail with
the "private" flag set, some other such software just strips the "private"
flag. The "best" such software will take a "private" echo message and send it
via Net Mail to only the "destination" system, but such software HAS to be
integrated closely into the BBS software it works with and is NOT in widespread
usage.
 In some of the cases above, the Sysop in question may never KNOW that the
message was ever marked "private", especially those Sysops that are fed FROM a
system that strips the private flag.


 Basically, the only VIABLE assumption is that any message in an EchoMail area
is NOT going to be private - assuming anything else is at best an error.


 * SLMR 2.1a * If you're not part of the solution, you precipitated.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8932
  To: JEFF DANNER                              Date: 12/16/93  6:38p
Subj: CD-ROM SHAREWARE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I am currently running a BBS at Longview Community College.  We are
considering
>adding a CD-ROM.  However I have only seen one CD that had shareware on it.

 Look for my list (should be posting it again tomorrow, if you can't find a
previous copy, in the CFORSALE and CDROM_SALE echoes). I would estimate that
1/3d or so of the titles I list are shareware collections....


 * SLMR 2.1a * The note that you left me leaves a space in this room.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8933
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/17/93 11:51a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST P1 OF 4               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Brice's Library
 CD-ROM Price List 2 December 1993

 5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
 Indianapolis, IN 46220
 Tue Thu 11am - 8pm  Wed Fri 11am - 6pm  EST
 (317) 726-1980 voice  (317) 726-1387 BBS (24 hour, 1200/2400/v.32 supported)

 FidoNet 1:231/190   InterNet sysop@f190.n231.z1.fidonet.org
 All prices are in U.S. Dollars and include any applicable Sales Tax.
 U.S. Shipping included if prepaid (please allow 7 days for check to clear).
 Sales to out-of-U.S. addresses require payment in U.S. funds.
 We cannot accept Credit Card payment at this time.

 1001 Utilities                    10   Macromind Clipmedia v.1: Busines 339
 1992 CD-ROM Collection w/CIA      63   Mad Dog McCree                    36
 20'th Century Almanac (5 disc)    74   Made in the USA                   28
 20'th Century People (OEM)        25   Madness of Roland (Mac)           50
 20'th Century Sports (OEM)        25   Magazine Rack                     19
 20'th Century Video Almanac (OEM) 25   Magic Flute (Mac)                 55
 386 BSD Unix                      20   Majestic Places                   36
 501 Sound Waves                   19   Mammals (Nat. Geographic)         24
 600 Days to Cocos Island (Mac)    59   Man Enough                        65
 7'th Guest                        50   Manhole                           35
 7'th Guest (OEM)                  36   Mantis Experimental Fighter       60
 9 Digit Zip Codes                 32   Mantis Experimental Fighter (OEM) 16
 9000 Sounds                       25   Map Expert w/ Street Atlas USA   263
 999+ .WAV files                   19   Maps 'n' Facts PC Globe           44
 A Christmas Carol                 26   Mario is Missing Deluxe           52
 A Christmas Carol (FTL)           53   Mario Missing w/World Atlas (OEM) 24
 A Hard Day's Night (Mac)          34   Mario Teaches Typing            Call
 A Line in the Sand                34   Masterpiece Library               36
 A Silly Noisy House (Mac)         49   Matinee Screen Saver              43
 A+ Grade Builder                  34   Mavis Beacon Teach Typing (MPC)   65
 About Cows                        25   Mavis Beacon Typing (MPC) (OEM)   20
 AD&D Dark Sun: Shattered Lands    69   Mayo Clinic (MPC)                 20
 AD&D Dungeon Hack                 45   Mayo Clinic (Mac)                 24
 AD&D Fantasy Empires              59   Mega A/V                          26
 ADA Programming                   20   Mega Movie Guide                  39
 Adobe Type on Call                81   Microsoft Beethoven: 9'th Symph.  57
 Adobe Type on Call (Windows)      83   Microsoft Bookshelf v1993        149
 Adventures                        40   Microsoft Bookshelf '93 upgrade   50
 Adventures in Heaven              15   Microsoft Bookshelf '93 (OEM)     39
 Adventures of Pinocchio (MAC)     59   Microsoft Cinemania (MPC)         57
 Adventures of Willy Beamish       54   Microsoft Dinosaurs               69
 Adventures of Willy Beamish (OEM) 17   Microsoft Encarta '94             95
 Aesop's Fables (eBook)            40   Microsoft Golf                    49
 Ageis Guardian Fleet              69   Microsoft Mozart                  69
 AGFA Intro PAC - 20 Typefaces     82   Microsoft Multimedia Viewer      349
 Air Warrier                       58   Microsoft Musical Instruments     58
 Aircraft Encyclopedia             27   Microsoft Office for Mac v3.0    599
 Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp    34   Microsoft Office for Windows     599
 All American Sports               44   Microsofr Office Pro for Windows 699
 All Music Guide                   57   Microsoft Stravisky               69
 Aloha, Hawaii!                    20   Microsoft Visual C++ Pro v1.0    399
 Altsys Virtuoso for Solaris v1.0 595   Microsoft Multimedia Word v2.0   429
 Amanda Stories                    41   Microsoft Works                  159
 Amanda Stories (Mac)              49   Microsoft Works (OEM)             39
 Amazing Universe (PC/Mac)         59   Middle East Diary                 26
 America Alive Guidisc (Mac)       87   MIDI Connection                   53
 American Business Phone Book '92  15   MIDI Music Shop for Windows       17
 American Business Phone Book '93  25   Might and Magic: World of Xeen    59
 American Heritage Ilus Ency Dict  50   Mixed Up Mother Goose             54
 American Journey 1896-1945        49   Mixed Up Mother Goose (OEM)       17
 American Vista Atlas (MPC)        30   Monarch Notes                     48
 American Vista Atlas (Mac)        60   Money, Money, Money!              29
 America's Premier Shareware       14   Monster Disk (2 discs)            35
 Americans in Space (PC/Mac)       59   Monster Media '93                 23
 Aminet                            17   Monster Media '93 #2              29
 Anecdotes v.1                     15   Mosaic Magic                      27
 Anecdotes v.2                     15   Mother Earth II                   30
 Anecdotes v.3                     15   Mother of All Clip Art            14
 Anglo-Saxons                      44   Movie Select                      55
 Animals Encyclopedia (MPC)        30   Movie Select (Mac)                55
 Animals in Motion                 40   Movies on TV and Videotape        34
 Animals of San Diego Zoo (MPC)    69   Mowgli's Brothers                 36
 Animals of San Diego Zoo (Mac)    68   Mozart Multimedia Musicbook       37
 Animals San Diego Zoo (DOS) (OEM) 19   Mozart Multimedia Musicbook (Mac) 38
 Animals San Diego Zoo (MPC) (OEM) 21   Mozart: Dissonant Quartet         49
 Animation Festival (MPC)          26   MPC Wizard                        14
 Animation Festival (MPC) (OEM)    20   Multi Bible                       59
 Annabel's Dream of Ancient Egypt  55   Multimedia Audio Collection       30
 Arctic Baron                      39   Multimedia Computor Tutor         17
 Arthur Teacher Trouble (MPC)      56   Multimedia Environments           23
 Arthur Teacher Troubl (MPC) (OEM) 22   Multimedia Handisc (Mac)          87
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble (Mac)    49   Multimedia Magic Collection       15
 ASP Advantage                     20   Murder Makes Strange Deadfellows  46
 Aster*X Base v2.1 for Sun OS     579   Murmurs of Earth (3 discs)        46
 Aster*X Power Pack for Sun OS    819   My Advanced Label Designer        54
 Astrology Source (PC/Mac)         59   The Myst (Mac)                    69
 Atlas of U.S. Presidents          26   National Parks (MPC)              20
 Audio Collection (MPC)            17   Nautilus Backpack Vol.I           44
 Audioshop (Mac)                   75   Nautilus Backpack Vol.II          44
 Audubon's Birds                   18   Nautilus Backpack Vol. III        49
 Audubon's Mammals (MPC)           18   Nautilus Best of Photography      53
 Authorware Star                   34   Nebula                            27
 Autodesk Explorer                 85   NEXTStep for Intel               649
 B17 Flying Fortress/S. Service II 40   New Basics Electronic Cookbook    58
 Baccus and Comus                  50   New Basics Electronic Cookb (OEM) 29
 Backroad Racers                   59   New Kids on the Block             50
 Baker's Dozen Game Pack Windows   16   New Kids on the Block (Mac)       50
 Barney Bear Goes to School        15   New York at it's Best             23
 Barney Bear Goes to Space         15   New Zeland Birds                  29
 Barron's Book Notes               30   Newsweek Interactive              25
 Baseball's Greatest Hits (Mac)    59   Night Before Chrismas             27
 Battle Chess (original) (OEM)     20   Night Owl Business Software       20
 Battle Chess (enhanced) (OEM)     24   Night Owl Games                   19
 Battle Chess (enhanced) (Mac)     68   Night Owl Graphics                24
 Beauty and the Beast              36   Night Owl 9                       24
 Beauty and the Beast (OEM)        17   Night Owl 10                      29
 Beethoven: The 9'th Symphony      79   North American Fax Phonebook      27
 Berlitz Thnk Tlk French (7 disc) 109   North American Indians            26
 Berlitz T & T German (7 disc)    109   NOVA (for NeXT)                   20
 Berlitz T & T Italian (7 disc)   129   Novell Unixware Personal ed.     209
 Berlitz T & T Spanish (7 disc)   129   Novell Unixware Development kit  499
 Best Business                     23   Novell Unixware Personal Util.'s 209
 Best of Microprose                24   Nutcracker                        30
 Better H&G Hlthy Cooking (PC/Mac) 57   Ocean in Motion (QT)              60
 Beyond the Wall of Stars          27   Oceans Below                      26
 Bible Lands and Stories           40   Officer's Bookcase                25
 Bible Library                     24   Oldies but Goodies                16
 Bibles and Religion               12   Orchestra (Mac)                   67
 Biblio-Tech                       20   Oregon Trail                      55
 Bicycle CD-ROM Collection         39   Original Shareware 1992           10
 Blue Force                        46   OS/2 v2.1                        179
 Book of Lists #3 (PC/Mac)         75   OS/2 v2.1 Upgrade                 99
 Book of Lists #3 (PC/Mac) (OEM)   40   Our House (Family Circus)         45
 Boris Vallejo Fantasy Art         48   Our Solar System                  12
 Brain Drain                       14   Oxford English Reference Library  94
 Bridge Deluxe w/ Omar Sharif      65   Pacific Islands                   30
 Britain at it's Best              24   Patrician                         45
 Britannica Select Software        16   PC & DOS Introductory Module      13
 Business Assistant                10   PC Game Room                      18
 Business Backgrounds              31   PC Medic                          17
 Business Backgrounds (OEM)        20   PC-SIG #12                        20
 Business CD                       29   PC-SIG #13                      Call
 Business Library v.1              46   PC-SIG Ga
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8934
  To: JOHN HUNTER                              Date: 12/17/93 11:53a
Subj: PRO PHONE CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Does anyone happen to have a copy of the 92 Pro Phone CD <business>?

 Can't get it anymore (only had one distributor that carried it last month, and
they just dropped it) - but the '93 edition is only $25 NEW....

 See my price list immediately preceding this message for ordering info.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Save the whales - harpoon a Moderator!  8-)

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8935
  To: BILL WOOD                                Date: 12/17/93 12:05p
Subj: LOOM ON CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>LOOM ON CD................................$30.00

>         THIS IS A ONE TIME OFFER, GREAT DEAL!!!!!!
>         PRICE DOES INCLUDE SHIPPING AND HANDLING

 Odd, I sell new copies for $26 of the full retail version. Your price is
reasonable (I also include shipping/etc. on prepaid orders) but not "great", as
I DON'T think I have the lowest price around on this one....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Ho! Ha! Guard! Turn! Parry! Dodge! Spin! Ha! THRUST!!!!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 8936
  To: CHARLIE JARMAN                           Date: 12/17/93 12:06p
Subj: CD OFFERINGS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>        Randy, I try to keep my business very dynamic. Therefore, I
>        don't do catalogs-- if I did, it would be outof date by the time
>        I finished.

 I know that problem - as does Mike and Boris and Joe and most other folks -
but we all do catalogs anyway.
 If you were talking about USED items, I would agree with you on this....


 * SLMR 2.1a * The Second Amendment to enforces the other Nine....

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From: BLAKE SKYLER                           Number: 8937
  To: ANYONE                                   Date: 12/12/93  1:35p
Subj: Adult Movie Review Cd                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for the new Adult Movie Review CD. I heard it came out last month
or so and haven't found anyone with it yet. I would be interested in it or any
other movie review.

                                                  Blake

PS> Also interested in Adult Forbidden Acts and other Kinky Pictures CD.

Sphinx EM/v5.0 * TagLines have no calories, no cholesterol, no nutrition

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From: GENE MILLSAPS                          Number: 8938
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 12/12/93 11:22p
Subj: Incomplete order                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

As DAVE REED offered 12-08-93 22:22 on INCOMPLETE ORDER:

DR>The reason many of the dealers in this echo are able to offer such low
prices, is because they sell versions of the discs not manufactured for the
traditional retail outlets.  Even though the "read.me" files on the discs may
list other documentation, many of the discs don't come with it.  If you want
all of the "goodies," you should be paying twice as much (or more) for the
"retail box versions" instead of the discount versions available in this echo. 
I'm confident [Doug] sent you EVERYTHING his distibutor sent him (regarding the
discs you purchased).

Dave,
We appreciate your thoughts on the matter.  You, and perhaps Doug, make some
sense, except that these echo adv's make no reference to the reduced
documentation or reduced feature set supplied with these offerings.  I don't
mind making an informed decision, even buying less product when I believe that
I can work around the omitted items, but I saw no indications of these
shortcomings.  In some cases these differences can mean the difference in
successful use of the CD-ROM, as in the case of our crippled Dinosaur
Adventure.

And I doubt we'd need to pay twice the echo's prevailing prices for complete
software, as these conference prices are considerably more than half the retail
prices I've seen in Babbages, CompUSA, and magazine mail order house ads.  I
had expected the echo's retailers were passing on some of their savings in
overhead and shop costs, not selling us reduced versions of the software.  Are
these reduced versions actually authorized releases from the manufacturers?   I
presumed that the CD-ROM's were authorized, and complete with all necessary
package accessories.

These CD-ROM shops deserve a fair shake, but so do we buyers.


Hoping you find your echoes elating . . .
       - Gene
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From: HARRY MITCHELL                         Number: 8939
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93  9:37a
Subj: Hard core                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  I'm looking for some hard core porno on CD Rom.  I am also looking for a list
of what you have on a CD Rom if you would like to call me you may do so at
510-278-2287 I live in CA
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 8940
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/16/93 10:08a
Subj: PowerBox II                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

OK boys and girls.  Damar Enterprises announces ANOTHER new release! 
 
                          The CD PowerBox Version 2.00 
 
                  (NOW AVAILABLE & SHIPPING TO DISTRIBUTORS!) 
 
The disk has been checked against itself, Pier3 and NOWL10 for duplication (and

virsus, of course). 
 
The % dupes between PowerBox2 and NOWL10 - 7.94% 
                                  PIER3  - 12.85% 
 
So, why would you be interested in the PowerBox 2 over these other 2?  Well, 
first off, the PowerBox 2 has NEWER files!  As new as November 13, 1993! 
 
Second off, the PowerBox 2 has over 500 MORE files than the NOWL10 disk and,
get 
this folks, over 1000 more than PIER3!  These are the NEWEST and GREATEST files

available right now AND IN TIME FOR CHRISTMAS.  OK, that's it from me - contact

your favorite dealer to order a copy and if they don't carry the PowerBox 2, 
tell them to call us for dealer pricing!! 
 
Oh yeah, almost forgot - the PowerBox 2 features the UNIVERSAL INTERFACE!  This

is a GUI based on the need by YOU for a single standard front end for your 
various different shareware disks!  No longer do you need to mess around with 
the others' GUI, use the UNIVERSAL INTERFACE - found ONLY on Damar Enterprises 
CD-ROMS. 
 
Now back to the usual stuff, 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
The CD PowerBox Guys! 
 
 
  
... Damar Enterprises - Home of the shareware CD-boxes! 
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 8941
  To: JEFF DANNER                              Date: 12/16/93 10:08a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom shareware                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Here's one for ya! 
 
                          The CD PowerBox Version 2.00 
 
                  (NOW AVAILABLE & SHIPPING TO DISTRIBUTORS!) 
 
The disk has been checked against itself, Pier3 and NOWL10 for duplication (and

virsus, of course). 
 
The % dupes between PowerBox2 and NOWL10 - 7.94% 
                                  PIER3  - 12.85% 
 
So, why would you be interested in the PowerBox 2 over these other 2?  Well, 
first off, the PowerBox 2 has NEWER files!  As new as November 13, 1993! 
 
Second off, the PowerBox 2 has over 500 MORE files than the NOWL10 disk and,
get 
this folks, over 1000 more than PIER3!  These are the NEWEST and GREATEST files

available right now AND IN TIME FOR CHRISTMAS.  OK, that's it from me - contact

your favorite dealer to order a copy and if they don't carry the PowerBox 2, 
tell them to call us for dealer pricing!! 
 
Oh yeah, almost forgot - the PowerBox 2 features the UNIVERSAL INTERFACE!  This

is a GUI based on the need by YOU for a single standard front end for your 
various different shareware disks!  No longer do you need to mess around with 
the others' GUI, use the UNIVERSAL INTERFACE - found ONLY on Damar Enterprises 
CD-ROMS. 
 
Now back to the usual stuff, 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
The CD PowerBox Guys! 
 
 
 
  
... Damar Enterprises - Home of the shareware CD-boxes! 
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 8942
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/18/93  9:44a
Subj: PowerBox II                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

OK boys and girls.  Damar Enterprises announces ANOTHER new release! 
 
                          The CD PowerBox Version 2.00 
 
                  (NOW AVAILABLE & SHIPPING TO DISTRIBUTORS!) 
 
The disk has been checked against itself, Pier3 and NOWL10 for duplication (and

virsus, of course). 
 
The % dupes between PowerBox2 and NOWL10 - 7.94% 
                                  PIER3  - 12.85% 
 
So, why would you be interested in the PowerBox 2 over these other 2?  Well, 
first off, the PowerBox 2 has NEWER files!  As new as November 13, 1993! 
 
Second off, the PowerBox 2 has over 500 MORE files than the NOWL10 disk and,
get 
this folks, over 1000 more than PIER3!  These are the NEWEST and GREATEST files

available right now AND IN TIME FOR CHRISTMAS.  OK, that's it from me - contact

your favorite dealer to order a copy and if they don't carry the PowerBox 2, 
tell them to call us for dealer pricing!! 
 
Oh yeah, almost forgot - the PowerBox 2 features the UNIVERSAL INTERFACE!  This

is a GUI based on the need by YOU for a single standard front end for your 
various different shareware disks!  No longer do you need to mess around with 
the others' GUI, use the UNIVERSAL INTERFACE - found ONLY on Damar Enterprises 
CD-ROMS. 
 
Now back to the usual stuff, 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
The CD PowerBox Guys! 
 
 
 
  
... Damar Enterprises - Home of the shareware CD-boxes! 
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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 8943
  To: ROY POXON                                Date: 12/19/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: Private Employment Net              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I really don't think that the "CDROM FOR SALE" is the place for your rather
long messages...and so many of them! I review this area because I'm interested
in CDROM's...not a Professional Employment service.

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8944
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/20/93  3:51a
Subj: HOT CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            C R E A M     O F     T H E     C R O P    I I

OVER 654 MEGS New Shareware   4987 Files Dated '93'  Dup Checked
Virus Checked                 Files.BBS Support      Multi Line Discription
Mouse Support Menu            14Megs Prog Code       Plus MORE !!!
Only 200 prog Older Than April '93' - 10% Dup to NO10, Pier3, Software Gold

DEALERS WELCOME.......      PRICE - $25.

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263   FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8945
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/20/93  3:51a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 10.1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                       N I G H T  O W L  10.1

* Over 5,100 NEW Files   * Over 647 Meg's    * No Dupes   * Virus Checked
* No Dupes To v9.0       * All Zipped Files  * New Viewer * and  More  !!
"Night Owl 10.1 "  is here  and ready  for  delievery  !! All programs on
this cd were written or updated between Jan 1st and  Sept 1st 1993.  In
fact, 100megs of the total files are from Sept 1993.In addition, N.O has
a mouse driven GUI interface for both DOS and Windows !!
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Mail Media. Do not expose to Flames!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8946
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/20/93  3:51a
Subj: SPECIAL                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~[  S P E C I A L  B U N D L E S  ]~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1. Software Vault Gold     2. Night Owl 10.         3. Shareware Online 2
   Software Vault Games       Night Owl Games          Gameware
   Software Vault Windows     Night Owl Graphics       Soundware
   Price - $49.00             Price - $65.00           Price - $49.00

4. Hobbes OS/2 'NOV'       5. Tech Arsenal          6. Pier 3
   Window Users Arch          TechnoTool               Cream Of The Crop II
   Price - $30.00             Price - $30.00           Price - $45.00

   ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUE 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Without Silver Xpress, I DO NO MAIL!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8947
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/20/93  3:51a
Subj: CDROM SYSEMS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00  Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare   - $379.00  NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $249.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $739.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1169.  -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms w/ctl   - $369.00  Texel Ext 245ms Bare  - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int 3021 Bare  Dr - $189.00  Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $389.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SCSI

 Groilers Encyc DOS v6.  $50.          ALL ChestNuts CD's $10.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Master Surfer!
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From: JOE SCHULTZ                            Number: 8948
  To: BRYAN COTTER                             Date: 12/19/93  2:38p
Subj: sure                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Uhhh....Could we mayber move that discussion to another base....Just an
Idea eh boys?
                        case

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From: JIM KEULER                             Number: 8949
  To: ROY POXON                                Date: 12/19/93  8:31p
Subj: Re: Private Employment Net              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RP>                      INTRODUCING CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL

RP>     We are not a "NET" in the BBS sense of the word, but an
RP>     international consulting group connected through our own private
RP>     network to 23 offices throughout the world via satellite. These

RP>      c/o PAI Consulting Group S.A.
RP>      Box CI
RP>      2267 Duncaster Drive
RP>      Burlington, Ontario
RP>      CANADA L7P 4P3

RP>      We look forward to serving you.

RP>      CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL
RP>                                                                    3/4
RP>^
RP>                             CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL

RP>                       Individual Request For Membership

RP>      Please accept my application for membership in CONTACTS
RP>      INTERNATIONAL.

        What the HELL does this have to do with this ECHO!
        --------------------------------------------------

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 þ SLMR 2.1a #     ÿÿÿA modemer's telephone bill knows no bounds......

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From: JIM KEULER                             Number: 8950
  To: ROY POXON                                Date: 12/19/93  8:31p
Subj: Re: Career changing                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RP> -=> Quoting Molly Lee to Iona Meyer about Career changing on 11-15-93  16:4
RP><=-

RP> ML> IM*Greetings Molly, I'm sorry to hear that you are in the same boat.

RP> ML> I think that there are a lot of folks who are in the same boat.  I've
RP> ML> never felt right about saying anything, keeping the frustrations
RP> ML> inside, until I found this conference. (smile)


RP>                a smile costs nothing,
RP>                there's nothing to pay
RP>                and it might just make
RP>                somebody's day.

RP> Good luck in your endeavours. Hope that the above has been of some
RP> assistance. Talk to me any time.. Always glad to help.

RP>... CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL - Your window on opportunity
RP>___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
RP>--- T.A.G. 2.6f2a Beta
RP> * Origin: The Gatehouse BBS * (905)528-0635/0636 * WHQ BBCNet (1:244/119)

        Does this crap really belong here in this echo. Im sick of
        seeing this over and over again! Get IT OUT OF HERE!
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From: JIM KEULER                             Number: 8951
  To: ROY POXON                                Date: 12/19/93  8:31p
Subj: Re: Employment Advice                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RP> I would like to offer these suggestions to all of you out there who are
RP> unemployed, seeking a career change or looking for that first job.

RP> First the bad news!
RP> Don't look for the good times of the '80's to return. Many of the jobs
RP> which have recently been removed from industry have gone for good.
RP> Companies are getting leaner and meaner. In this global economy they
RP> have no choice. All the developed countries are in the same boat.
RP> Fifteen million unemployed in the EEC alone. However, there IS light at
RP> the end of the tunnel.


RP>                a smile costs nothing,
RP>                there's nothing to pay
RP>                and it might just make
RP>                somebody's day.

RP> Good luck in your endeavours. Hope that the above has been of some
RP> assistance. Talk to me any time.. Always glad to help.

RP>... CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL - Your window on opportunity
RP>___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
RP>--- T.A.G. 2.6f2a Beta
RP> * Origin: The Gatehouse BBS * (905)528-0635/0636 * WHQ BBCNet (1:244/119)


        PLEASE "DEL *.*" FOR THE ABOVE MESSAGE. REALLY NO NEAD FOR THIS!
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From: JIM KEULER                             Number: 8952
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/19/93  8:31p
Subj: Re: Forbidden Subjects CD               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

DR>Hello Mike!

DR>Tuesday December 14 1993 00:00, Mike Shannon wrote to Hayden Bradshaw:

DR> HB>> Well, for starters, it has GIFs showing such things as people (or what
DR> HB>> left of them) fatally injured by bomb blasts; executed by guillotine;
DR> HB>> some having had radical surgery performed to various extremities of
DR> HB>> their bodies; infants who have been crushed in car accidents; previous
DR> HB>> unreleased (and for good reason) photos of murder victims; and so many
DR> HB>> more "delightful" things to feed ones mind on.

DR>Cool!  Where can I get this?

DR>Later,

DR>Dave

        I am also looking for this CD. Anyone have a copy to sell?
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From: DOUG HUNKELE                           Number: 8953
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 12/18/93  7:05a
Subj: Cd Rom Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the reply.........

Doug

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From: DOUG HUNKELE                           Number: 8954
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 12/18/93  7:13a
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New Release        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* Overheard by  All, David Vangelder Mumbled...:
DV >  ******************* FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!!
DV >  ****** FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS
DV >  **************** RATES AVAILBALE UPON REQUEST

So what is the NOMINAL FEE.............

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From: DOUG HUNKELE                           Number: 8955
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/18/93  7:21a
Subj: bbs in a box                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Need help on this one if possible.....

Got a cd labled "BBS IN A BOX" published by The Arizona Macintosh User's Group
and Mac Wizards......

I run a DOS system with and get the error "Disc not ISO 9660 or High Sierra
Format" when I try to read it in the drives....any suggestions on how to read
it, i.e DRIVERS??...or is a MAC the only thing that can handle it...

Thanks for any replys.

Doug

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From: ANTHONY FURGISON                       Number: 8956
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 12/19/93  2:53a
Subj: Hitachi CDROM's                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Chris Kuefler to Anthony Furgison dated 12-16-93 ***
> I have 3 of them, along with the card that will handle up to 4. Give me
> an offer, and I will see how bad I want to sell them. They DO work, I 
> have all 3 online along with a mitsumi.
You don't mention what Hitachi it is. Are they 3500, 3750 or newer?
Can't make an offer unless I know what they are and how old. Please reply 
ASAP. If I don't find anything this week I am going to get a couple of new
cdroms. If they are the 3500's I will give you $120 apiece with the one card.

Anthony Furgison

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From: AL KAISER                              Number: 8957
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/19/93 10:32p
Subj: CD Disks for Sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following CD Disks for sale:

Jones In The Fast Lane
Enhanced Battle Chess     (Interesting Tutorial)
Spirit of Excalibur
Space Quest IV
Arthur's Teacher Trouble

Make and offer.  The more you buy the cheaper they will be.  Drop me a
note here.

Would be interested in trades for GIF roms or a GOOD CD Rom Atlas.



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From: ANTHONY FURGISON                       Number: 8958
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/19/93 11:05p
Subj: Hitachi CDROM's                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Scott,
Sorry I was able to exchange them back to the person who sold them to me. You
interested in them I can probably get in touch with him since he is a local
sysop here. You want to make him an offer. I'm sure he wouldn't want much. Let
me know.


... Clinton: From a 60's Flower Child to a Blooming Idiot in the 90's
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From: JASON BURKHART                         Number: 8959
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/20/93 10:21p
Subj: Cd-rom Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anybody got a Cd-rom Drive prefferably 320ms with 300 kb transfer with
everything I need to install and run it? CHEAP!
Putrifactor
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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 8960
  To: DANNY BRIGANCE                           Date: 12/20/93  7:35a
Subj: Bible cd's wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dan - mailed it on 12/12.  You should have it by now.  Jerry


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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 8961
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 12/19/93 11:53p
Subj: Amateur Models for trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GS>RN>I  have the new Amateur Models for trade for another adult
RN>cd-rom
GS>I'll trade you Busty Babes #3, vol. for it. Let me know.

RN>Greg, that will be fine.  I need your address for mailing the
RN>Amateur
RN>Models disc to.  Send the BB #3 to:

RN>Randy Neuner
RN>196 Hughes St
RN>Ft Huachuca, AZ 85613

RN>When you get this msg and send the disc let me know as I have
RN>alot of
RN>other offers but am holding it for you.  I had your address but
RN>was not
RN>sure if you still wanted to trade and cannot find your address
RN>now.
RN>Randy


RN> * OLX 2.1 TD * Mental Floss prevents Moral Decay.



Randy,
Traded it already.  Thanks anyway.
Greg

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From: MICHAEL MURPHY                         Number: 8962
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/19/93  8:27p
Subj: Night Owl's 10 CD!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The Night Owl publishers has said that they will replace your infected CD
with a new one that has the files deleted!
Their numbers are:
Office: 716-484-3066
BBS:    716-483-3925


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From: ANTON SHEVCHENKO                       Number: 8963
  To: CHARLIE JARMAN                           Date: 12/20/93  2:29p
Subj: wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

what's on the cd?


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 8964
  To: DANNY TSENG                              Date: 12/20/93  5:17a
Subj: OS/2 CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Danny!

Saturday December 18 1993 14:33, Danny Tseng wrote to ALL:

 DT>     I'm looking for a CD which has collected the newest shareware for OS/2
 DT> 2.1. Could anyone give me some suggestion?

I have Hobbes OS/2 and the OS/2 Box and prefer the OS/2 Box.  I picked them up
from Starvector.

Later,

Dave

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 8965
  To: RICK PEDLEY                              Date: 12/20/93  5:18a
Subj: Busty Babes Volume II                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Rick!

Sunday December 19 1993 11:28, Rick Pedley wrote to Dave Reed:

 LN>> Egads...... and BTW, I bet you wife is beautiful, and I applaud you
 LN>> coming forward but don't tease me about something I CAN'T HAVE <big
 LN> grin>>

 DR>> You want to "have" his wife?

 RP> You got a problem with that, Dave? :-)

Uh... no!  ;-)

Later,

Dave

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From: ROB CORKUM                             Number: 8966
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 12/20/93 10:52p
Subj: Busty Babes II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message dated 18-Dec-93 09:59:11, Vince Sorensen wrote:

 VS>                    CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA
 VS>                6 Armstrong Bay * Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7
 VS>                306-789-4654 Voice * 306-789-8690 Fax

Could you please send me your latest catalog?  Or give info on freq'ing it.

  Rob Corkum
  The Computer Link (Sysop of 1:249/308)
  4 Alexander St., Suite 4
  Belleville, Ont.
  K8N 2H1

Thanks,

//Rob//

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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 8967
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/20/93 10:13p
Subj: Hitachi CD-ROM's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you were interested in the HITACHI 3500 CD-ROM readers
for sale in these fido echoes for the last year, please
read on.
MEG*A*BITE is pleased to announce that we have won a large
bid for approximately 600+ HITACHI 3600 CD-ROM readers.
These drives will be warrantied by MEG*A*BITE for a period
of thirty days. These drives can be daisy chained up to
eight units (yes 8) on one controller card.
The CDR-3600 drives have access speeds <390 msec and a
transfer rate of 150 KBsec. These drives are HITACHI
quality through and through and will perform great in
personal and BBS usages. Now for the good news......

Hitachi CDR-3600 internal CD-ROM............ $130.00
Hitachi Interface card........................$74.00

Remember that these units are easier to install than
SCSI drives, and have less conflicts during installation.
And daisychainable up to eight (8) units.
Call us for yours today, as supplies on good used drives
are not found often.
MEG*A*BITE accepts VISA, MasterCard, Carte Blanche and
Diners Club. C.O.D's are also accepted!

Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE
Voice   (517)892-5518
FAX     (517)892-5965
FIDO        1:239/675
Internet    bedtelyo@cris.com


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From: JOHN VAN HARE                          Number: 8968
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/20/93 11:23a
Subj: Amateur Models 33. inc. ship            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SR> I have amatuer models cd that I will let go for $33 shipped.
SR> 
SR> If you are interested please reply.
SR> 
SR> Scott raley
Call me at 616-467-4197, I would like to know a little more about the cd,
as well as it's age and condition.

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From: SCOTT PHILLIPS                         Number: 8969
  To: PAUL SWIDER                              Date: 12/18/93 12:33p
Subj: CD Titles For Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PS> $15.00  Tempra Access Photo CD Imaging Software 

What's this do?  Replace Kodac CD software to allow viewing of photo CD's or is
it just a collection of pictures or an editing program?  Might be interested in
it.
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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 8970
  To: FRED AYERS                               Date: 12/19/93 10:35a
Subj: Specials for X-MAS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Matt....do you have any refurbs or used SCSI drives?  Interested in
-> something to replace the Mitsumi's I now have...

Hi Fred,
We have some Toshiba 3101 SCSI, and real low cost Philips SCSI with
cards at 200.00. Bare drives starting at $125.00.
Please call us voice at 517-892-5518 if interested.
Hoping to hear from you soon!

Happy Holidays!
Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE
1:239/675


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 8971
  To: JONATHAN ROLFE                           Date: 12/19/93 10:36a
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Thanks for the blazing fast delivery of the Phillips 206A. I think th
-> label was still damp when I got it.  Nice unit!  :-)

Glad you like it Jonathan....
Happy Holidays!

Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE
1:239/675


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 8972
  To: ROBERT MOORE                             Date: 12/19/93 10:38a
Subj: Specials for X-MAS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> When you say a CD ROM drive is 'AT Bus', does this mean the same thin
-> means for Hard Drives?  In other words 'AT Bus CD ROM' equals 'IDE, p
-> IDE paddle board card'?

No unfortunately, this means that is takes a proprietery AT controller.
Philips will have a new drive out in MID 94 that will plug into your IDE
CARD on the newer IDE interfaces. That will be nice!

Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE
1:239/675


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From: MATTHEW LYNCH                          Number: 8973
  To: RICK PEDLEY                              Date: 12/19/93  9:36p
Subj: Anyone got a....                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RP>ML>Hey out there....  Does anyone have a Battle Chess Enhanced CD or a
RP>ML>Chess Master 3000 (or National Lampoon's Chess Master 5
RP>ML>Billion, for that matter)

RP>No but I got suckered into buying the old, cruddy Battle
RP>Chess thinking it was the `enhanced' version, not knowing
RP>they'd done two different CD's :-(

Would you be at all interested in selling it if I can't find the enhanced or BC
4000?

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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 8974
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 12/19/93  9:38p
Subj: Re: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New Release    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <12-17-93 07:34> Mark Walker wrote:

MW>  In a message of <15 Dec 93  12:18:00>, David Vangelder (1:363/6969)
MW>  writes:
MW>
MW>   >******************* FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!! *****************
MW>   >****** FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS *****
MW>   >**************** RATES AVAILBALE UPON REQUEST **************
MW>  Okay I am requesting...what is the fee for a single node, two nodes
MW>  etc up to  4 nodes (I don't think any of my customers have more than
MW>  4).

Mark, the per node licensing fee is $25.00.  The same fee is appplicable to
each node.

The photographers were not willing to allow their images to be distributed
without compensation.  We came up with $25.00 per node, which we felt was
very reasonable as it represents less than one subscription fee (Generally
speaking; many sysops charge $50.00 and more as you know).  If a sysop has
more than one node, then he must have the subscriber base to support those
additional nodes.  The licensing fee would still represent less than one
subscription fee.

Please let me know if you agree that this is a nominal fee.  
 
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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 8975
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 12/19/93  9:43p
Subj: Re: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New Release    Refer: NONE
Read: 12/22/93  6:05a                       Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <12-17-93 05:58> Tim Helton wrote:

TH>  -> ******************* FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!! *****************
TH>  -> ****** FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS *****
TH>  -> **************** RATES AVAILBALE UPON REQUEST **************
TH>  ->                     TELEPHONE 407-831-3011
TH>
TH>  What's your per-node licensing fee?

Tim, the per node licensing fee is $25.00.

The photographers were not willing to agree to allow their images to be
distributed without compensation.  We came up with $25.00 per node, which we
felt was very reasonable as it represents less than one subscription fee
(Generally speaking; many sysops charge $50.00 and more as you know).

Please let me know if you agree that this is a nominal fee.  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 8976
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 12/19/93  1:43p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol II - Review         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <12-17-93 14:02> David Vangelder wrote:

DV>> It is all to clear that you have not
DV>> disputed ONE FACT in my post of October 31, 1993.

It would be in your best interest to take this thread out of the public eye.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 8977
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 12/19/93  2:10p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol II                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <12-17-93 14:21> David Vangelder wrote:

DV>> My reference to selling you a hard drive was meant to let Mr. Wade
DV>> know that I am able to provide extremely competitive pricing on
DV>> computer hardware.

..... select another customers name in the future--

DV>> In regard to my activity in writing to you asking for damages, being
DV>> present during your deposition, and collaborating with the attorney
DV>> in court; I am the VPIC licensing agent and was acting in that
DV>> capacity.

Oh really, VPIC, INC. does not hold the copyright, Bob Montgomery does,
therefore your involvement in the suit, is one of interest and not one of
necessity.

DV>> It is interesting to me, what you would like to imply to the people
DV>> who read this echo. From what you say, it would appear that you
DV>> prevailed in the case.

Did the judge grant you what you asked for ? Both requests were *SHOT* down.
So, let's just say, we faired quite well.

DV>> Didn't you get a copy of the Judge's order?

Yup. That's when we broke out the bottle of champagne. Didn't want to celebrate
prematurely.

DV>> said, "Defendants Rebecca Noga and Florida Lion's Den, Inc.

Just a little update--Its Bob Montgomery vs Rebecca Noga & Florida Lions Den vs
Blaine R. Richard III. Is this not your business partner that has been recently
added to the suit ?

DV>> It is all to clear that you have not
DV>> disputed ONE FACT in my post of October 31, 1993.

Just sit back Mr. van Gelder......

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 8978
  To: MATT DRURY                               Date: 12/19/93  2:10p
Subj: Re: Flame XXX Adult CD  Super hot!!     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <12-17-93 14:08> Matt Drury wrote:

MD>>  > *MOST* sued publisher in the industry for 1993, I hope you

MD>> What a banner line to be able to put on your discs. <grin>

Amen :)

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 8979
  To: AUDIE VICKERS                            Date: 12/19/93  2:12p
Subj: Re: Blaine Richard                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <12-17-93 19:11> Audie Vickers wrote:

AV>>   As long as you're offering...
AV>>   I'll take a 'Southern Beauties'.

Heheheehhe--The publisher is in this echo, tis' the season, doesn't hurt to ask
him :)

AV>>   I already have BB-II - Nice work!!

Thanks 'Hon......Happy Holidays !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 8980
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 12/22/93  6:12a
Subj: Re: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES -                Refer: 12445
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> felt was very reasonable as it represents less than one subscription
-> (Generally speaking; many sysops charge $50.00 and more as you know).
->
-> Please let me know if you agree that this is a nominal fee.

I think it's reasonable enough, as you own the disc & can license it any
way you please.  My own personal opinion is that *any* licensing fee is
going to kill the disc in the BBS world.  With the licensing fee comes
the illusion of paying for something twice - or at least that's the way
I think it'll be perceived.

tim
moderator
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From: JOHN HUNTER                            Number: 8981
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 12/20/93  2:22p
Subj: PRO PHONE CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JM->I have available one opened/unused copy of American Business Phone Book, mf
JM->erican Business Information, and it's the June 1992 update version.  Here's

JM->If this is what you want, let me know if $12.90 is satisfactory.  If it is,
JM-> send my address by netmail.

Jerry: Interested in the cd/disk >If this includes shipping I will take
it.
You can send address and how you would like to handle this to me at any
of the folowing addresses.

1:129/26,1:129/89,1:129/112,1:129/125 FIDO
jhh@genie.geis.com          \
                                <----INTERNET
john.hunter@jbjsys.sccsi.com /
jhunter@BBD- Major Net
or if all else fails ,snail mail=Jack Hunter
                                 2019 McKees Rocks Rd
                                 McKees Rocks,Pa. 15136




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  JHH=GEnie              \  j.hunter #208@1412007 =Virtual Net
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From: DAVID THROCKMORTON                     Number: 8982
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 12/20/93 11:29p
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices12/17/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RC>          SIMTEL MSDOS               $13.00
 RC>          GIGA Games                 $18.50

  Are these disks bbs ready with some type of files listing in each dir?
Preferable files.bbs format.  I would also like any info you can give me on
these disks.  You can send mail direct to 1:226/680 if you like. Thanks in
advance.



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From: DAVID THROCKMORTON                     Number: 8983
  To: KEVIN DOUGLAS                            Date: 12/20/93 11:35p
Subj: Flame XXX Adult CD  Super hot!!         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 KD> The FLAME adult CD-ROM is _THE_ superb collection of organized
 KD> adult SVGA GIFS

 KD> * Over 3400 hard core images * Each image adjusted for correct
 KD> colors & contrast * Absolutely no BBS ads or logos of any kind! *
 KD> Not a single dupe!!! * FILES.BBS in each image directory * Comes
 KD> with two viewers, NOMSSI & SVGA, ready to run from the root
 KD> directory. * The NOMSSI viewer auto-configures to any VGA/SVGA
 KD> card and does slide-shows. * SVGA also auto-configures and has no
 KD> problems with images taller than 768. * Very professionally done
 KD> cover & tray artwork.  (Created & rendered in 3DS)

   One other factor I would like to ask about, are there any "young" models on
this CD?  There have been 2 boards in my area that have been "busted" for child
pornography in the last year because they had gifs of girls that "could have
been under 18".  If this CD meets this qualification  I would be interested in
a copy for my board.  You can respond direct if desired at Fido 1:226/680 or
reply here.  Thank you in advance.



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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 8984
  To: ROBBIE HESSLER                           Date: 12/20/93  3:34p
Subj: ADULT CD FOR SALE/TRADE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The CD has been sold; thanks for the interest.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 8985
  To: JOHN PARKER                              Date: 12/20/93  3:34p
Subj: ADULT CD FOR SALE/TRADE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry, the CD has been sold. Thanks for the interest.

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From: MARTIN TORRES                          Number: 8986
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/19/93  4:40p
Subj: Re: Bible CD's Wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PR>> Have a Minister here that is looking for any Cd's, do you have any he

I have a CD that has a lot of bible files. Maybe up 50%, if interested 
please leave a message. Asking Price $15.00 OBO plus shipping.

                                                       Martin

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From: LOUIS SOKOL                            Number: 8987
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/20/93 10:22p
Subj: HAL-PC BBS HELD HOSTAGE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ATTENTION ALL HAL-PC MEMBERS  !!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

There is NO freedom of speech on the HAL-PC BBS. 

The Sysops, BBS Chairman, VP of Communications and others in control
have decided that the only way to deal with dissenting opinions is to
delete messages, change public statements to private ones, take away
writing privileges of the vocal members who stand up for their rights
and deny any kind of forum for discussion of alleged wrongdoings.
The separate conference for "discussion" of political messages has
been turned into a sham conference.  Any message not meeting the
political views of the group in control is not left for public view,
but is instead converted to private status or deleted entirely. 

HAL-PC MEMBERS - YOU are losing control of YOUR computer club!  There
is a recall petition being circulated that details alleged misdeeds
of the President and VP of Programs, including secret contracts,
conflicts of interest, violations of federal and state laws and much
more. 

Please call the HAL BBS @ 963-4100 and read what is left of the
Politics Message Area (Area C).  Please also call the PSL BBS (which
used to be the HAL-2 BBS until the VP of Communications and others
recently forced him out) @ 442-6704 and read the equivalent Politics
Conference (Conference 11).  There are over 500 messages on the PSL
BBS while there are but a handful on the HAL BBS. 

Please call and make up your own minds about this situation.  Leave
messages to the concerned parties about your thoughts.  Tell the HAL
leadership what YOU think is important for YOUR computer club.
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From: GEORGE CORDOVA                         Number: 8988
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/20/93  3:59p
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  I run a BBS here in SLC, UT.  Nowhere around here are there any CD-ROM
shareware disks,  I have searched and searched and the only ones I can find are
at least 1 to 2 years old.  I am interested in adding a Shareware disk to my
BBS as I just purchased a CD-ROM.  If any of you distributors feel real helpful
how about sending me the newest night owl, or PC sig, or maybe if I am real
lucky "Southern Beauties".

   Much appreciation towards all of you.

     George

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 8989
  To: GREGORY GUALTIERI                        Date: 12/20/93  9:15p
Subj: Re: CD's for sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You replied to the right person, however there is another Jeff Jenkins out
there....so it can be confusing.
Yes I'm selling the SVGA cards. You can call if you wish
602-732-0928

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 8990
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/20/93  9:18p
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mitsumi single spin drive for sale, with 3 CD's (don't know titles yet)
150.00 OBO

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 8991
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/20/93  9:31p
Subj: BB                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How many versions of Busty Babes are there?
can someone list them? 
3 or 4 or ......?

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 8992
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/21/93  1:59a
Subj: WINDOWS CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}   A L L    W I N D O W S  C D   {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{
Over 670+Megs        Over 5,500 Files      Virus Checked    Dup Checked
    BBS Ready with direct support for PCBoard, Spitfire and other's
     Largest Collection Of Window Software Anywhere in The World !
               File dates mostly '92 - 93' Very few 91's
   FREE CD from the author (with purchase) over 2,000+ Hi-Res Images

                              PRICE - $25.00

ORDERS ONLY! US/CAN 800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Every Silver lining has a clone around it.
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From: *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DI        Number: 8993
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/21/93  3:12a
Subj: For The largest selection               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-GIGO(4446) ZyX
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 8994
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 12/21/93  5:32p
Subj: Re: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New Release    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <19 Dec 93  21:38:00>, David Vangelder (1:363/6969) writes:

 >Mark, the per node licensing fee is $25.00.  The same fee is appplicable 
 >to each node.
 >
 >Please let me know if you agree that this is a nominal fee.  
Well it depends...considering that there is at least one other supplier of 
quality scans and they are not charging a per node fee and you are, it could 
put your disk out of the market for BBS use. On the other hand if the disk is 
far superior (in the eyes of the purchaser) to anything on the market they may
 not consider it unreasonable. Sitting in my shoes as a BBS operator and 
computer sales consultant, I think unless the whole market goes that way 
(which I hope they don't) I will pass on the disk. I really hate to, as I 
REALLY like looking at beautiful women. 

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 8995
  To: DOUG HUNKELE                             Date: 12/21/93 12:54a
Subj: Cd rom drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JM >  The Mitsumi LU002S I recently sold, and the Mitsumi LU005S
JM >  I now have, each have read every file on every CD-ROM in
JM >  the place, (about 50 or so), including especially the
JM >  Hobbes discs I've fed them.
DH>Jerry,  maybe you can help, i am running two mitsumi's, have been for
DH>about a  year now with no problems until i tried the Hobbs OS/2
DH>(Oct 93)... i have  tried to read it with the bbs software up
DH>and running AND without anything  running but DOS...when i boot
DH>my system with the cd in either of the drives  the system
DH>dosen't even recognize the drive anymore, if i swap disc the
DH>drive  just sits there with no action what so ever...i have
DH>feed these drives night  owls, BBII, 5 Star Monster series,
DH>Cream of the Crop, So Much Stareware, and a  host of other CD's
DH>with no problem either.  My conversation with Boris relayed
DH>the same and he memtioned that the Hobbes is over 540M of
DH>files, the limit of  the mitsumi's (which is printed in the
DH>specifications of the drive in my  manual)...i don't have
DH>access to another drive to see if the hobbs disc is  good or
DH>bad....ANY SUGGESTIONS

Let me first remind you that Boris and I are both in net 157, and live only an
hour or so drive away from each other.  That isn't the only reason I don't want
him miffed at me, but it's a good start!  Your dealings with him have to remain
just that ... with him!

I don't have the Oct 93 release.  I have the June 1993.  I'm in a DESQview
window at the moment because my fancy mailer doesn't work under OS/2; it might
if I had time to play with the settings.  I just bopped into a nearby DOS
window and did a DIR/s on the June '93 Hobbes, just to test it; perhaps the
later version is similar?  The test is empirical anyhow, and doesn't mean very
much.  But in fact, it does prove something!  The bottom line shows 8910 files,
641325442 bytes on that disk.  The various lines in the many directories just
scrolled right along, from bottom to top, without any interruption or
awkwardness of any kind.  On earlier occasions, I've looked at just about every
file on the disc, with no problems.  Only a few were worth the bother of
copying to the hard drive, and they did so with no problem, from all over the
disc as I recall.

If my LU005S can do it, so should yours. BUT!

Your system may be lacking some part or another I have which makes it all
possible, some of it software, some of it hardware.  I think you must have a
problem either with the drive you have, or more likely the machine itself needs
help.  You can perhaps try that disk on another machine.  A neighbor's maybe. 
You claim to not have another drive of your own.  Take it to a nearby store,
and see if it will play on ANY machine.

Quoting from yours, above: DH>when i boot DH>my system with the cd in either of
the drives  the system DH>dosen't even recognize the drive anymore, if i swap
disc the DH>drive  just sits there with no action what so ever..  Maybe I don't
read so good any more, but this says to me your system doesn't recognize the
CD-ROM drive at times.  If I read that correctly, I fail to see how it could be
a bad disc.  Are you sure you're holding your mouth right?  :)

Boot up with no disc at all in the drives, and then put some CD in and try to
read it.  If that works, try the Hobbes.  Experiment.  Take notes.  At these
times, check MEM, with the various switches.  It would be neat if you had
programs like MFT from Quarterdeck, or even that MSD thing from MS as a last
resort (but perhaps in your system) to see if the driver is actually present in
memory, or whatever clues you might see.  Start taking careful notes, and see
if you ONLY (REALLY) have the problem BECAUSE of that disc.  OTOH, any machine
that will properly run BBII can't be ALL bad!  Have you thought about the lines
in your AUTOEXEC and CONFIG?  Does the drive perform properly in OS/2?

If the new Hobbes has 8900+ files like the older one, you are going to need a
LOT of memory; I don't know what role FILES and BUFFERS play, but don't skimp. 
If you still cannot make it fly in a plain vanilla, fly it over here and I'll
look at it myself.

Here's *my* system, with which I have NO problems MOST of the time; some discs
used to require I free up more memory by rem-ing out the ST:M, I think in that
case.  (I have a dozen different boot-up configs, and it's hard to recall just
which is which without looking ... BATch files do all the work, and the
remembering.  Most of my problems went away when I chucked out the MS-DOS 5.0,
and took a quantam leap upwards to PCDOS.  I had MS-DOS 6.2 in the house one
afternoon.  While trying to install it, using only the defaults, it ate my hard
drive.  That day I bought a new hard drive, and ordered OS/2.  Anyhow, here
'tis: 386-25, 387, 16MB, PCDOS 6.1, QEMM 7.03, DV 2.62, Norton Speedrive 4.0,
16-bit interface & LU005S.  Normally, I'm on the OS/2 side of the machine
though, and these helping hands are not there, nor needed. All the windows IN
the house are ON the house.  The machine is MS-free.

the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio, USA

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 8996
  To: RON MITCHELL                             Date: 12/21/93  1:09a
Subj: Cd rom drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JM>  The Mitsumi LU002S I recently sold, and the Mitsumi
 JM> LU005S I now have, each have read every file on every
 JM> CD-ROM in the place, (about 50 or so), including
 JM> especially the Hobbes discs I've fed them.  Even
 JM> Gigabyte Gold was no challenge for either of them.

RM>I bought an 8-bit 600ms Mitsumi in May.  It will read exactly three
RM>discs, and those with a lot of errors.  I bought a 16-bit 350ms
RM>Mitsumi in October.  It will read every disc I have.  The 8-bit
RM>machine will not read Night Owl 7 or either Shareware Studio vol
RM>1 or 2.  The 8-bit will not read PC-SIG 12.  The 16-bit will.

That is most unfortunate, Ron, but it doesn't match my own experience. I have
no explanation, of course.  There are possibilities, like bad card, dirty slot
connections, and yes, even bad drive.  I have to ask, when you changed to the
new drive, did you adjust the lines in your config/autoexec at all, or make any
other changes?  I think if I had that kind of problem that long, I'd have tried
that 8-bit card in every slot in the machine.  BTW, the 8-bit drives work just
great on the 16-bit cards.

RM>My 16-bit Mitsumi is a fine machine, but IMO there is a real problem
RM>with the 8-bit drives.  I just wish Mitsumi would be more
RM>discriminating in who they allow to market their drives, and
RM>pay more attention to customer service.

Very appropriate verb, that.  WISHful thinking, indeed.  This isn't the only
company seemingly attacking us from overseas though.  We begged for it by
exporting so many of our technical industries, leaving ourselves in the
hamburger business.  But this isn't the echo for that.

the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio, USA

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8997
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 12/21/93 12:49a
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices11/23/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RC>   MS> That's very impressive, but please exercise caution:  These wild-eyed
RC>   MS> and
RC>   MS> frenzied backpatting episodes can sometimes result in multiple
RC>   MS> fractures to
RC>   MS> the forearm.  Please consult a physician before continuing.  8)

RC>  You made a statement, I responded.  The above wouldn't be a threat
RC>  of physical harm would it?

You're kidding, right?  I meant that as in, "Don't break your arm patting
yourself on the back".  Boy, I'll bet you really spark up a party.  It's
called a sense of humor.  Check into it.......

.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8998
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 12/21/93 12:49a
Subj: Cinemania Wanted                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RL>  Looking for the latest version of MS Cinemania for Windows...

'94 version in stock at $59

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 8999
  To: DANNY TSENG                              Date: 12/21/93 12:49a
Subj: OS/2 CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DT>      I'm looking for a CD which has collected the newest shareware for OS/2
DT>  Could anyone give me some suggestion?

Danny,

We have two of the newest ones on the market: Hobbes OS/2 Oct. 93, and
OS/2Box, which was released in November.  OS/2Box is strictly version 2.x
OS/2 shareware, and has a graphical user interface built-in that runs
under OS/2.  Hobbes is $16 and OS/2Box is $25, or we have them as a set
at $39.

If interested, give me a call any time!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9000
  To: JOYCE ZWEEDYK                            Date: 12/21/93 12:49a
Subj: DISCOUNT CD PRICES 3/3                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JZ>  >  Grolier's MPC Ency 6.0 (New!).45.00    Street Atlas USA

JZ>Hey Mike, have you looked at the New Grolier's MPC Ency 6.0.... I would be
JZ>interested in hearing something about it..... is it good?

I've played with it briefly, and was very impressed.  Overall look and feel
seems a little more well-thought out, versus the older versions which were
a little harder to navigate through.  Seems like this one is geared more
toward the "click here for something neat" crowd.

On the whole, I think it's a nice product, but the Compton's Interactive is
still my personal favorite.

Later,
.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9001
  To: GENE MILLSAPS                            Date: 12/21/93 12:49a
Subj: STORE PRICES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GM> complete software, as these conference prices are considerably more than
GM> half the retail prices I've seen in Babbages, CompUSA, and magazine mail
GM> order house ads.

Can you offer a few examples?

.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9002
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/21/93 12:50a
Subj: FREE CD GUIDE!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           | Title:  THE CD-ROM OF CD-ROMS |  |   Price:  $29   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

                    >>> FREE w/ any $100 CD purchase <<<

     This Windows 3.1 multimedia CD is a directory of over 4000 CD-ROM
     titles, nearly 5000 companies (with contact information), almost
     2000 industry movers & shakers, and close to 600 critical,
     professional reviews of CD-ROM titles.  It is written for Windows
     3.1 in a multimedia relational database, with SVGA color pictures
     of titles & screen shots, with motion, sound, and musical tracks
     from some of the leading CD titles today!

                  VERY UP TO DATE!   RELEASED:  NOV 13 1993
     THIS CD-ROM REFERENCE HAS MORE LISTINGS THAN IT'S TWO COMPETITORS
                    WHICH COST HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS EACH!

     This outstanding reference tool has the standard info on each title,
     including publisher, price, addresses, etc., plus a large number of
     critical reviews to give you an in-depth knowledge of just what the
     title is about.  If you are thinking about buying ANY CD-ROM's in
     the near future, GET THIS DISC!!!

     ADDED BONUS:  Included on the CD is a full working copy of PC
                   KARAOKE, absolutely FREE!

     --------------------------------------------------------------------
              PRICING:   CD-ROM of CD-ROM'S ALONE.........$29
                         WITH ANY CD-ROM PURCHASE..........$9
                        *WITH ANY $100 CD-ROM PURCHASE...FREE
     --------------------------------------------------------------------

                 >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<
               * Closeouts and discounted items not included

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9003
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/21/93 12:50a
Subj: REBEL ASSAULT IN STOCK!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #2:  TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES   |
         |________________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

>REBEL ASSAULT * New and hot from Lucasarts. Great interactive game.....$49
>VIRTUAL REALITY STARTER KIT * The "next dimension" for your PC.........$49
>VIDEO MOVIE GUIDE * Reviews over 12,000 movies, from "B" to the hits...$28
>CD POWERBOX 2 * The newest of the new! Current shareware hits. BBS.....$29
>GIRLS OF RISQUE * Another classy softer image disc. BBS-Ready..........$35

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: TERRY HAMEL                            Number: 9004
  To: GREG GILETTO                             Date: 12/21/93  6:34a
Subj: WANTED: Corel Draw v3                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Let's start at $125.

I am very interested in closing this deal, and will competitively offer
you $100.  How would you ship it?  How would you like your bills (dry,
maybe? <g>) sent?  It might help if we exhanged numbers.  Ours is (503)
232-3252 PST, normal office hours (and then some).


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From: TERRY HAMEL                            Number: 9005
  To: CJ JASKIEWICZ                            Date: 12/21/93  6:38a
Subj: WANTED: Corel Draw v3                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> I do have a CD disc version 3.0 of Corel Draw for Sale, but the
> only thing I have is the CD itself no books or manuals, I am asking
> 70.00 or best offer, If your interested make me an offer and I'll get
> back to ya. I bought this from a friend a while ago and its been just
> sittin on the shelf. Let me know what you decide. Thanks, C.J.

Thank you, but I will definately need the docs.  Especially considering
I'm not likely to be the only one using it at the office.

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 9006
  To: RICHARD JOHNSON                          Date: 12/21/93  2:59p
Subj: CD Rom Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello RICHARD!

20 Dec 93 18:30, RICHARD JOHNSON wrote to PAT RICKERSON:

 RJ> I DO NOT HAVE A CD ROM DRIVES ON MY COMPUTER AT ALL SO I DO NOT KNOW HOW
 RJ> YOU ARE TELLING THAT TO .I DID NOT ASK FOR A CD ROM DRIVER FROM YOU AT
 RJ> ALL SO I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A CD ROM DRIVER .

Sorry, but don't know what this means. I have went back in my mailer but can't
figure out what you are talking about. Please let me know if you recived the CD
Players OK. Take Care
Pat

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 9007
  To: WESLEY CHEW                              Date: 12/20/93 11:39p
Subj: CD CALCULUS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Wesley!

Sunday December 19 1993 10:45, Wesley Chew wrote to Dave Reed:

 WC> Hi Dave, will apperciate if you could give me the number of
 WC> Wiley & Son.

John Wiley & Sons, Inc.
1-800-392-6892
1-815-756-8486 (Illinois)

Later,

Dave

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From: DON RAICHLE                            Number: 9008
  To: JEFF HUBERT                              Date: 12/18/93  1:13p
Subj: LOWER PRICES!!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  > Shareware Extravaganza      | 4 CD-ROMS!| $29  | 3 gig of shareware
  > 7th Guest                   | 2 CD-ROMs | $29  | Great adventure,
  >                             |           |      | puzzle GAME with
  >                             |           |      | "The making of 7th Guest"
  >                             |           |      | video.

I'm interested in both of these.  How much, including shipping?

Don


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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 9009
  To: CHARLIE JARMAN                           Date: 12/20/93 10:12a
Subj: Re: DR. Line of CD's                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Charlie -

   CJ> Buy all four for just $42.00

   CJ> Shipping is $3.00/1-2 disks

How much is shipping on the four?

   CJ> Coming Soon!  Dr. OS/2  Dr. Clipart  Dr. Fonts for Windows
   CJ> Dr. Music Lab   Dr. Sound Factory*  Dr. AVI for Windows*

   CJ> These are introductory prices for the version 2 releases of
   CJ> the popular Dr. series of CD's from Accurate Research, Inc.
   CJ> Follow up orders will be at a significant increase in price.

Which means that the pre-orders for the  "Coming soon" titles are
at the $12 price?  Or four for $42 ?

Very confusing ad.  I'd like to purchase "OS/2", "Fonts", "Music",
and "Sound" (all "coming soon"), but have NO IDEA how much to send!

                                                  - Arnie :+}

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From: TIM SHEEHAN                            Number: 9010
  To: JD BROWN                                 Date: 12/20/93  3:16p
Subj: OS/2 CD wanted                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What about the "for windows" version, do you have that? I would prefer that.

-Tim Sheehan


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From: TOM RUDDY                              Number: 9011
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/20/93  8:14p
Subj: Federalist Papers                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Looking for a cdrom copy of the Federalist Papers. Anyone have one?

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From: JIM LEONARDT                           Number: 9012
  To: BILL HALL                                Date: 12/20/93  4:21p
Subj: Mitsumi 2x Spin                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sir, I am a disabled Nam Vet and on a fixed income and run a BBS and I am in
need of a good External CD. Again I am on a fixed income and if you could work
with me for X amount per month I would very much like to order one from you. My
Data # is: 417-326-3361 the voice # is: 417-326-3361 Node # : 1:284/52......
Thank you for your time.....Jim Leonardt
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 9013
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/21/93  6:45p
Subj: Hitachi 3600 cd rom drives $99          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


                    Here they are...   $99  each !

 Hitachi cd rom drives model 3600 (that's right model 3600) $99 each.
 Access time 350 ms.  Transfer rate 150 kb/s.  These EXCELLENT drives
 can be daisy-chained up to 8 on each propitiatory controller card.

 They can use the same controller cards that  are  used  with  the
 model 3500's.  If you don't  already  have  an  interface  card I
 have them NEW for $60.  I also can provide external  cases  for 4
 or 8 of these drives and  external  cables  and  power  supplies.

 30   day   warranty.      All domestic orders are shipped  c.o.d.

 Call voice 205-824-2552  or "crash" netmail your order to 3625/441.
 Sorry...  routed  netmail  won't reach me since I get my  feed  via
 satellite.

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From: KEITH KENNEDY                          Number: 9014
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/18/93  6:26p
Subj: Re: NIGHT OWL 10.1                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Boris....

 BO> Checked * No Dupes To v9.0       * All Zipped Files  * New Viewer * and
 BO> More  !! "Night Owl 10.1 "  is here  and ready  for  delievery  !! All
 BO> programs on this cd were written or updated between Jan 1st and  Sept
 BO> 1st 1993.  In fact, 100megs of the total files are from Sept 1993.In
 BO> addition, N.O has a mouse driven GUI interface for both DOS and Windows
 BO> !! Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
Is it possible to order for delivery to South Africa?
Thanks
Keith

 
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From: KEITH KENNEDY                          Number: 9015
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 12/18/93  6:30p
Subj: Re: PowerBox II                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Dave.....
Is it possible to ship to South Africa and if so could you let me have a
catalogue...
Thanks
Keith Kennedy
Keith's Place
Johannesburg
RSA
+27-11-435-1779

 
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From: KEITH KENNEDY                          Number: 9016
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/18/93  6:32p
Subj: Re: SHAREWARE CD 4-PAK: $49             Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hi Mike....
Can you ship to South Africa and if so please let me have catalogue..
Thanks
Keith

 
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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 9017
  To: SCOTT PHILLIPS                           Date: 12/21/93  8:29p
Subj: CD Titles For Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 12-18-93 Scott Phillips wrote to Paul Swider... 
 
 SP> PS> $15.00  Tempra Access Photo CD Imaging Software  
 SP>  
 SP> What's this do?  Replace Kodac CD software to allow viewing  
 SP> of photo CD's or is it just a collection of pictures or an  
 SP> editing program?  Might be interested in it. 
  
 Scott, this allows you to load photograpic images stored on a Photo CD 
 disc, view images on a contact sheet, select and display a single photo, 
 edit a displayed photo by cropping or by changing the size and  
 orientation, and export the image to a file in various popular formats.. 
 ie. GIF, PCX, TIF, BMP to name a few. Hope this answers your questions. 
 >Paul< 
 
... OFFLINE 1.50 

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From: JAY TAYLOR                             Number: 9018
  To: RICK PEDLEY                              Date: 12/22/93 12:52p
Subj: Battle Chess Enh                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Battle Chess Enhanced that I would sell you for $25.  Let me know
if you still want it.


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From: BRIAN ELFERT                           Number: 9019
  To: KEVIN BEYERS                             Date: 12/22/93  3:43p
Subj: wholesalers                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> magior problem, every supplier I have talk to only has Super high qua
-> products, just as  TEACK floppy, Mitsumi CD-rom for 178.00 a piece. a
-> Double speed  CD-rom for 206. what I'm looking for is some suppliers

Mitsumi is as cheap as it gets for a CD-ROM drive.

Brian


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From: GARY FULLER                            Number: 9020
  To: MARTIN YEE                               Date: 12/19/93  9:46p
Subj: Re: Macmillan dictionary sale           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Someone said somethin' seemed like this
 MY> Macmillan Dictionary for Children MPC CDROM w/warranty card but no
 MY> box - $23.00 shipped.
 MY> Martin Yee

I buy zee cd voice mail 991-8216.
--gare--


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From: CHARLES MCNEILL                        Number: 9021
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/21/93  3:37p
Subj: cd's with sound files                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Does anyone know of some good CD's with all sound files on them?
  How much do these usually run?  I am looking for some of these.

  Thanks 

  Charles


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From: MELVIN                                 Number: 9022
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/22/93 12:27p
Subj: Computer Stuff 4 Sale!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

============================================================================
                                FOR   SALE
============================================================================


    ITEM_________________________PRICE________________DESCRIPTION_______DOCS_

  OS2/2.1                        $120      OS2/2.1. Excellent Program!  YES 
  OS2/2.0                        $40       OS2/2.0  Later version of
                                                    OS/2                YEP

  KIPLINGERS CA SIMPILY $$       $20        Great Windows Money Manager
                                            Almost as good as Quicken   Yep
  Microsoft DOS 5.0              $20        Great Version Of DOS        YEP
 
  Mayo Clinic Famliy Doctor
  for CD ROM                     $50        Everything you need to know abouT
                                            your health etc.            Nope
 
  Lotus 123 MMSmarthelp For CD 
  Rom                            $60        Great Spreadsheet with multimedia
                                            Smarthelp!
 
 
    If interested E-Mail me here! 
   Will Trade for OS2 for Windows
   The New Front Page Sports
   A pentium!
   Living Books for CD-ROM

----Melvin____

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From: JOE PYE                                Number: 9023
  To: DANNY TSENG                              Date: 12/21/93  6:50a
Subj: OS/2 CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Danny!

18 Dec 93 14:33, Danny Tseng wrote to ALL:

 DT>  Hello ALL!

 DT>     I'm looking for a CD which has collected the newest shareware
 DT> for OS/2 2.1. Could anyone give me some suggestion?
The Hobbs OS/2 CDRom was just released in October of this year.  Have it here
on my bbs, very easy to install, and full of stuff.
Joe

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From: WILLIS B DOSS                          Number: 9024
  To: ROBERT PRIDDY                            Date: 12/21/93 10:58p
Subj: Talk                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello were you trying to talk to me on the other node?
If so Tell me how to connect.
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From: JOHN CHRIST                            Number: 9025
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/21/93  9:32p
Subj: CD SPEED                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Brice Fleckenstein,
  In a message on 16 December, to Richard Johnson, wrote :

BF>  * SLMR 2.1a * Unspeakable error in module Cthulu at address R'lyeh.
                                               ^^^^^^            ^^^^^^

Are you a fan of H. P. Lovecraft?  
...
 * ATP/msdos 1.40 * Who put the "arse" in Arsenio?
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From: GARY KIMBRELL                          Number: 9026
  To: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                         Date: 12/20/93 11:01a
Subj: RE: Pioneer Changers                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Hello All!
> 
> Where is the best deal on a Pioneer DRM600A with controller and
> software?
> ...Jeff...

Matt Bedtelyon CD-ROM Drives Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE, the CD-ROM reader capital!
1:239/675

>  * Origin: High Country Eats, Ramona, CA (619)-789-4391  (1:202/1903)

Use to be right down 37 from you. :-)

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From: GARY KIMBRELL                          Number: 9027
  To: DOUG HUNKELE                             Date: 12/21/93  1:22p
Subj: RE: bbs in a box                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Need help on this one if possible.....
>
> Got a cd labled "BBS IN A BOX" published by The Arizona Macintosh User's
> Group and Mac Wizards......
>
> I run a DOS system with and get the error "Disc not ISO 9660 or High
> Sierra
> Format" when I try to read it in the drives....any suggestions on how to
> read it, i.e DRIVERS??...or is a MAC the only thing that can handle it...

Nope! AMiga's can. :-) You need a HF driver that MAC's are using now. It was
part of my ASIMCDFSV2.0 upgrade that I use here.

>
> Thanks for any replys.

YOur Welcome. ;)

>
> Doug
>
> ---
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X-Lakeside, California Sysop!

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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 9028
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 12/21/93  4:54p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol II -                Refer: NONE
Read: 12/24/93  8:29a                       Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <12-19-93 08:22> Tim Helton wrote:

TH>> DV>> As I also said in my post, I DO NOT CONSIDER THE CD-ROM
TH>> DV>> FOR SALE ECHO THE PLACE FOR STORIES OR THINGS OTHER THAN
TH>> DV>> ANNOUNCING CD-ROM PRODUCTS FOR SALE OR WHAT ONE MAY FEEL
TH>> DV>> ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^ ^^ ^^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^
TH>> DV>> ABOUT A CD-ROM PRODUCT.
TH>> DV>> ^^^^^ ^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^

TH>> Leave the moderating to me, David.

I have no intention on moderating YOUR echo, but I am entitled to
MY OPINION, am I not?

TH>> Everything Lee said has relevance to selling CD ROMs. You're
TH>> the one who's off topic!

Tim, I am a bit confused, perhaps you can clear something up for
me.  I have written a total of less than 10 posts on your echo.
Since it is called the "CD-ROM For Sale" echo, I assummed it was
for announcing CD-ROMs for sale.  I noticed in reading messages
off of this base that people (including Ms. Noga) post opinions
and statistics about CDs that are for sale.

My first and second posts were announcing our new disc "Southern
Beauties". My third post was thanking Bob Jackson for his kind review
of the disc.  My fourth post was regarding Busty Babes Vol II,
which contained statistics about the disc, which nobody has disputed
the facts contained therein.

Other than a few additional posts announcing our newest disc
"Bodacious Beauties" and answering you and Mr. Walker regarding
the licensing fee for "Bodacious Beauties", my posts have included:

1.)     To ALL <12-14-93 16:46> in which I *RESPOND* to what Lee
        Noga wrote to (a) David Doyle, (b) Thomas Wagner, and
        (c) Dan Wade.

        (a) to David Doyle, Ms. Noga BRINGS UP lawsuits, antics,
        and who allegedly initiated them and who allegedly boasted
        and bragged about them.

        (b) to Thomas Wagner, Ms. Noga goes on to say how she did
        not run and hide after reading messages that broke her
        thick skin.

        (c) to Dan Wade, Ms. Noga goes on to describe me as
        malicious and hateful.

2.)     To Dan Wade <12-14-93 16:51> in which I *RESPOND* to his
        statements in a very direct and comprehensive way. His
        message to me remained on what (in my opinion) YOUR echo's
        purpose is.

3.)     To Lee Noga <12-17-93 14:02> in which I *RESPOND* to her
        stating (a) she has proof of my alleged boasting and
        bragging about lawsuits.  And a suggestion that *I* take
        this topic out of the public eye----AS I RESPONDED TO HER-
        I DID NOT PUT IT THERE-MS. NOGA DID!  I then stated what
        *I CONSIDER* the CD-ROM FOR SALE echo to be for.  Now you
        are the moderator; therefore you know best what is on topic
        (BUT, I would hope you would allow me to express MY OPINION
        on YOUR echo).

4.)     To Lee Noga <12-17-93 14:21> in which I *RESPOND* to her
        talking (a) about my selling her a 1.2 gig Micropolis hard
        drive, (b) about a lawsuit for a copyright infringement
        case initiated by Bob Montgomery and my activities as VPICs
        licensing agent, and congratulating us on our new disc
        "Bodacious Beauties".

I have not had the time to respond to her most recent post of
<12-19-93 14:10>, but I will in the next few days.

IN MY OPINION, (which again I would hope you would allow me to
express on YOUR echo) 1(b), 1(c), 2, and 4(a) have relevence to
the purpose (as *I* see it) of this echo and the rest does not.

I RESPONDED to what she BROUGHT UP and reposted my message of
October 31, 1993, so as to allow her or anyone else to refute
any of the facts in my message.

SINCE, ALL I DID was to *RESPOND* to Ms. Noga's posts in 1, 3,
and 4 above (other than messages that ONLY related to announcing
the sale of our discs or statistics regarding a disc for sale),
PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME *HOW* IT IS THAT ****I**** AM THE ONE WHO
IS OFF TOPIC!

I would hope that my challenging *YOUR OPINION* as you did mine
would not result in my being banned from this echo.  
 
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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 9029
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 12/21/93  6:15p
Subj: Re: No disc                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN>  Tell him to send me one your new discs.

Please let me know whether you would like a "Southern Beauties" disc
shipped to you right away or a "Bodacious Beauties" disc in mid January.

I will ship either one you want, if you will provide me with your UPS shipping
address.  
 
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From: RICHARD BUNTON                         Number: 9030
  To: KIRK JENSEN                              Date: 12/21/93 12:33p
Subj: Send me a new game...                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Kirk...I just purchased a new svga monitor and card.

I am ready to try a new game. Would you try to find me a game
that has native GUS, (Gravis Ultra Sound) support.

I would prefer a Thinking mans game...A problem solving game, as 
opposed to a Shoot-um-up game.

Would you see what you can find for me. Use my credit, (25.00 dollars),
and invoice me for the balance.

Perhaps it would be better if I just call and talk to my girlfriend
Cherry...??? Whatta-ya think...???


* * * * * * * 
R I C H A R D 
* * * * * * * 

 * DeLuxe2/386 1.25 #3885 * U Don't like the way I drive? Get off the sidewalk
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From: ROBERT BRIGGS                          Number: 9031
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/21/93 10:32p
Subj: Lay-Away                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Would whoever it was that did "lay-aways" please reply to me either here or via
Net mail @ 1:396/81.   Thanks!
 
===Bob Briggs 

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From: ROBERT BRIGGS                          Number: 9032
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/21/93 10:33p
Subj: Nightowl 10.1                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
Who has the best price on Nightowl disks?  Am looking for 9 and 10.1
 
Thanks!
 
===Bob Briggs

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From: DAVID THROCKMORTON                     Number: 9033
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/21/93  6:18p
Subj: Wanted Games CD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello,

  I am interested in the best and latest shareware games CD available. Could
have dos, Windows, and OS/2 games.  If anyone has recommendations please post
here or if you so desire net mail to 1:226/680.  Thanks in advance.



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From: RICHARD JOHNSON                        Number: 9034
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/21/93  3:52p
Subj: Cd Drives                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Pat, 

  I recieived the drives Monday in the mail. Soory to say but I can't either
one to work. One kicks the disk out after a few seconds and the other won't do
a thing. I have tried all day without success. Mine works just fine so I know
its not my system or card. What I would like you to do is send 2 more drives
and I will send these back to to upon receipt or you can refund my money and I
will return these drive upon receipt. I don't know whether they were dammaged
in shipping or not as the packing was not that great in my opinion.
  Either I would like you to make good on the drives. Apparently there are more
than one Richard Johnsons in this echo so I am the one in Powell, Ohio.
I will expect an answer on this ASAP.

Richard Johnson

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From: CHRIS STANFORD                         Number: 9035
  To: BOB LOUDER                               Date: 12/21/93  9:34a
Subj: 7TH GUEST                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>->I will offer $25 plus shipping. Reply here or 1:363/542.                

I wasn't looking for one.  I was just commenting on how good the game was!

CLS

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From: GENE GEIGER                            Number: 9036
  To: RICK SHELTON                             Date: 12/21/93  7:02p
Subj: Busty Babes Vol 1 For Sal               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RS>I have a Vol1 Release 1 of Busty Babes For sale, it has the Bam Bam logo.
I'll offer $50 + shipping if it's in mint shape.  -=Gene=-
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Cats are smarter than dogs: Eight cats won't pull a sled.


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From: AUDIE VICKERS                          Number: 9037
  To: MATTHEW LYNCH                            Date: 12/20/93  6:45p
Subj: Anyone got a....                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RP>ML>Hello All!

RP>ML>Hey out there....  Does anyone have a Battle Chess Enhanced CD or a
RP>ML>Chess Master 3000 (or National Lampoon's Chess Master 5

  ...got Chessmaster 3000, but it's on a disk along with "Mavis Beacon
  Teaches Typing", and the "Software Toolworks US Atlas and World
  Atlas", versions 3.0 and 3.2 respectively.
  Interested?
  (407) 348-7057 after 6:00p., EST., or
  (407) 281-4103 x156 7:00a to 3:30p Mon-Fri.

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From: VIC HLUSHAK                            Number: 9038
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/21/93 10:11a
Subj: cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PK   
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:&p+E+x2obiOS++XiW<SL_X\fO?nuri+|eogu oW Wi+Q f++T++^;8a}:{X<uo_1[X>c5 [ aXa
+2E=y( OZ+|Ai+M EP '[b Io o &Uo|  +eR+V +Eg^m eo$ii M!JAAqP+/UBK+c9<y1 i2.a1 +}
,k +*& #+U2OXiI-BMX+XiR.'L*hm+ ZX + 0@) XVZan+U yUe+a++g oaAE I+r
]>++&++++FRUY+[c)N>i  + $++ptX+Y8+D- .u +wa-)O2 [kT`=na6+M0oe)++X!+ i+}o)g+ a%
o5eu1pLnSc:++6'++LE fW|TU+++gFmo ? ++XEPh ecyB3 1P%e(oToa^++r+N0hb@lx4iX+
:(2+9i ER><=+Qf%T++++_+XU aAAU+r". ^ +b Xi+++HXz|lUX !+b+pX+oiILX  EPLrjceKA^!
PK   


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 9039
  To: BLAKE BARR                               Date: 12/21/93  8:39p
Subj: OS/2                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Blake!

Saturday December 18 1993 23:23, Blake Barr wrote to All:

 BB> Can anybody help me? I am having trouble getting my CD-ROM to work with
 BB> OS/2.. It's a Mitsumi MPC drive with 16 bit controller. I bought the OS/2
 BB> version on the CD-ROM disc, and had no problem. But after that, once OS/2
 BB> is installed, I can't get it to work. I have a feeling I need some kinda
 BB> updated driver. I have called l.d. and still not found one. If anyone has
 BB> one, PLEASE tell me where I can freq it or send it to me on Fire & Ice
 BB> BBS! FidoNet 1:395/43... Thanks..

    MITFX.ZIP available for freq from 1:344/79 or download at (509) 246-0548.

Later,

Dave

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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 9040
  To: MICHAEL GUIDRY                           Date: 12/21/93 11:26a
Subj: Re: Pro Audio Spectrum 16 Scsi Jack     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have SCSI WORKS from Trantor and use it's PAS driver (ASPI) to run a Syquest
removable media SCSI drive...works fine. The package cost $59. I know there is
at least one advertizer in Computer Shopper that sells the pkg. (can't think of
the name right now, but if interested, I'll find it for you) It's not very fast
but I only store artwork on the Syquest so speed is not an important factor for
me. Also you cannot make it the boot drive. 

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From: SHANNON ADAMS                          Number: 9041
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/21/93  2:09p
Subj: CD's FOR TRADE/SALE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following CD's for trade or sale.

1993 Guinness Multimedia Disc of Records

Civilization/Mantis

Sierra's Sneek Peeks

Where in the World is Carmen San Diego - Deluxe

I am looking for:  7th Quest, Microsoft Cinemania, or anything similar.

Make an offer.
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From: JOHN STROIK                            Number: 9042
  To: ROBBIE BUNCH                             Date: 12/22/93  2:54a
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Catalog!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Just joined this topic. Would like a copy of your catalog if still
available. Send to:   John Stroik     600 Shady Glen Lane
Saukville Wi.  53080               Thank You.

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From: ROBIN HARDISON                         Number: 9043
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/22/93  4:36p
Subj: Did you receive?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Lee!

I was just wondering if you received a netmail message from me a few days ago
asking about some CD's.

Robin

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From: *********** REFURBISHED  HITAC         Number: 9044
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/21/93  7:39p
Subj:                                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Daisy-chainable to 8 drives!
These are the long awaited refurbished drives, 1 step above Model 3500
$130.00 bare unit, 30 day warrantee, 680 meg,
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariant.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176 -
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-GIGO(4446) ZyX
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DI        Number: 9045
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/22/93  6:05a
Subj: For The largest selection               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-GIGO(4446) ZyX
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: *********** REFURBISHED  HITAC         Number: 9046
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/22/93  6:05a
Subj:                                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Daisy-chainable to 8 drives!
These are the long awaited refurbished drives, 1 step above Model 3500
$130.00 bare unit, 30 day warrantee, 680 meg,
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariant.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-GIGO(4446) ZyX
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 9047
  To: DAVID THROCKMORTON                       Date: 12/22/93  5:16p
Subj: Flame XXX Adult CD  Super hot!!         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <20 Dec 93  23:35:01>, David Throckmorton (1:226/680) writes:

 >   One other factor I would like to ask about, are there any "young" 
 >models on this CD?  There have been 2 boards in my area that have been 
 >"busted" for child pornography in the last year because they had gifs of 
 >girls that "could have been under 18".  If this CD meets this 
 >qualification  I would be interested in a copy for my board.   
It sounds like you want a CD with "young" models...I don't think so but the 
wording is very unclear. I am interested in what became of those busts of the 
boards with .gifs that the model "might have been under 18". Doesn't sound 
right to me...what ever happened to reasonable doubt? 

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 9048
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 12/24/93  8:33a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol II -                Refer: 12498
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> In a message to David Vangelder <12-19-93 08:22> Tim Helton wrote:
->
-> TH>> DV>> As I also said in my post, I DO NOT CONSIDER THE CD-ROM
-> TH>> DV>> FOR SALE ECHO THE PLACE FOR STORIES OR THINGS OTHER THAN
-> TH>> DV>> ANNOUNCING CD-ROM PRODUCTS FOR SALE OR WHAT ONE MAY FEEL
-> TH>> DV>> ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^ ^^ ^^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^
-> TH>> DV>> ABOUT A CD-ROM PRODUCT.
-> TH>> DV>> ^^^^^ ^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^
->
-> TH>> Leave the moderating to me, David.
->
-> I have no intention on moderating YOUR echo, but I am entitled to
-> MY OPINION, am I not?

Not when your opinion relates to how I moderate this echo.  EOT.

tim
moderator
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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 9049
  To: AL KAISER                                Date: 12/22/93 12:40p
Subj: Re: CD Disks for Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Al Kaiser to All <=-

 AK> I have the following CD Disks for sale:

 AK> Enhanced Battle Chess     (Interesting Tutorial)
 AK> Space Quest IV
 AK> Arthur's Teacher Trouble

I'd like to offer $40 delivered for the 3 CD's above and I'll prepay.  Let me
know....my number's in the tagline.
 
... Voice: 919-870-6926 (eves/weekends)
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: LARRY ADAMSON                          Number: 9050
  To: DAVID MOLDOVAN                           Date: 12/22/93  7:05a
Subj: Re: Phone and SCSI Card                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

David, when you decide to leave the 'firm', I will offer you $100 for the
UltraSCSI kit. Leave me netmail at 1:104/427 or call (303)426- 9062 (Denver) if
interested.


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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 9051
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 12/22/93  7:08p
Subj: Hitachi CD-ROM's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>Hitachi CDR-3600 internal CD-ROM............ $130.00
  >Hitachi Interface card........................$74.00


I might be interested in 8 of these units plus an interface card.  Are
you interested in any large size brand new SCSI drive trades for them
such as the following......


Fujitsu M2694ESA     1.0 GB SCSI-2 3.5.......................$899
Quantum PD1225s      1.2 GB SCSI-2 3.5.......................$979
Micropolis 2210      1.2 GB SCSI-2 3.5 Fast..................$960


Name:     James Porter   City/ST:   St Pete, FL   Phone:  813-345-7297
FidoNet:  1:3603/60.0    Alternate: James.porter@mechanic.fidonet.org
Internet: James.Porter@p0.f60.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG
UUCP:     ...!myrddin!mechanic!60.0!James.Porter

 þ OLX 3.10 31-0461 þ Here are some Parting gifts for you. A Fubar Washer and D


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9052
  To: HARRY MITCHELL                           Date: 12/22/93 12:21a
Subj: Hard core                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HM>    I'm looking for some hard core porno on CD Rom.  I am also looking for a
HM>  of what you have on a CD Rom if you would like to call me you may do so at
HM>  510-278-2287 I live in CA

Harry,

We don't sell these, but you might contact Ron Urbassik at Goosebump
Graphics.  He has about the largest selection to choose from that I have
seen.  His number is 216-254-2609, and he is in Mentor, Ohio.

Hope that helps.

Later,
.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9053
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/22/93 12:21a
Subj: HOTTEST NEW CD                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |     Title:  CD POWERBOX 2     |  |   Price:  $29   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

      ** IT'S HERE! **  And be sure to check our great bonus paks below!
      ** BBS file support for Spitfire, PCBoard, Wildcat and others!

      The newest BBS-ready shareware CD on the market has arrived!
      CD Powerbox 2.00 is a shareware disc featuring 600 Megs worth
      of brand new, PURE 1993 shareware files, with one HUGE difference!
      It contains Damar's new UNVIVERSAL INTERFACE or UI.  The UI offers
      the ability to manage most or all of your shareware CD's, without
      the hassle of always changing interfaces!  Here are some of its
      outstanding and unique features............................

      * Automatic installation of shareware disks
      * Support for over 15 different disks
      * New titles being added constantly!
      * Add or Remove titles with the click of the mouse button
      * Windows or DOS-based with Rich context-sensitive online help
      * Windows interface supports voice commands!
      * Quick and easy search feature to find specific programs
      * Copy an archive to your hard drive or install it directly off a CD!
      * View inside an archive right off the ROM!

      The UI is a commercial program and is NOT considered shareware.
      There is no cost for the UI when purchased with any of the Damar
      Enterprises CD-ROM products!

      The % of dupes between PowerBox2 and NOWL10 = 7.94% * PIER3 = 12.85%

 File dates.....    1993  File   %    Apx 'K'    %
                    ====  ==== =====  ======== =====
                       1   362  6.7%    24,601  4.1%   +------------------+
                       2   435  8.0%    33,095  5.5%   | Over 500 more    |
+------------------+   3   661 12.2%    53,387  8.8%   | files than Night |
| File listing     |   4   371  6.8%    33,852  5.6%   | Owl 10!          |
| available on the |   5   245  4.5%    22,427  3.7%   +------------------+
| Starvector BBS:  |   6    93  1.7%    10,369  1.7%
| 509-457-0206     |   7   852 15.7%   116,232 19.3%
+------------------+   8 2,162 39.7%   283,195 46.9%
                       9    24  0.4%     2,431  0.4%
                      10    67  1.2%    11,283  1.9%
                      11    76  1.4%     8,997  1.5%
                      12     0  0.0%         0  0.0%

 SPECIAL BONUS PAKS:
 -------------------
 1. CD Powerbox 2 + CD Powerbox 1.01 (no dupes!)........................$35
 2. CD Powerbox 2 + CD Winbox 1.01......................................$45
 3. CD Powerbox 2 + OS/2Box.............................................$45
 SUPER SPECIAL: ALL FOUR DISCS (Powerbox 1 & 2, OS/2Box, and Winbox)....$55

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * I think my data transmission is low on fluid.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9054
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/22/93 12:21a
Subj: MAC CD-ROM TITLES                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 December 1993          MACINTOSH CD-ROM PRICE LIST      Last update: 12/11
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 American Girls (New!).........34.00    Mac Shareware.................19.00
 Audubon's Birds...............23.00    Majestic Places...............38.50
 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    Monarch Notes.................48.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........25.00    Peter and the Wolf............25.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 DTPro.........................26.50    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......48.00    Sleeping Beauty (New!)........25.00
 Family Doctor.................26.00    Space Time and Art (New!).....34.50
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.00    Total Baseball 1992...........24.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Total Baseball 1993 (New!)....28.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Interactive Story Time 3......29.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00
 Jets & Props..................28.50    World Fact Book M/M...........23.00
 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...29.00    World View....................24.00

    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9055
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/22/93 12:21a
Subj: CD-ROM SALE!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #4:  CD-ROM LIQUIDATION!   |
         |________________________________________________________|

            All sales are final - Sale limited to stock on hand!

Mega Clipart........$22   Powerpak Gold 3.0...$13   Wrath of the Demon..$27
World Vision 3-Pak..$37   Business Phonebk 91.$13   Bookshelf 1992......$35
Mac Shareware.......$17   Precision Mapping...$66   Mac M/M Space.......$29
CD Winbox...........$17   DTPro...............$24   Talking Jungle Safa.$29
Action Traveler.....$25   Phoenix 4.0.........$17   Wildcat Gold........$17
Funny...............$29   Int'l Graphics Libr.$25   Reel Clips..........$24
Library of Future...$37   Home Designer.......$27   Arizona Images......$19
Cinemania 1993......$53   Software Vault 1....$15   CD Powerbox.........$13
King's Quest V......$17   Hobbes OS/2 1992....$10   Sights & Sounds.....$21
K-Tracks Sound F/X..$17   Sounds for Windows..$15   Canadian Shareware..$17

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * Tagline thievery . . . On the next Sally!

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From: TOM PARADISO                           Number: 9056
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/21/93 12:54p
Subj: CD-Rom & Disks                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All From the Rep-of-Panama


   I'm looking for some Disks (Shareware) for my BBS since I'm not 
in the state's it's very hard to get the good deals, can you guys 
tell me about the good ones ??? Please, low cost.


  Also would like to know what CD-ROM can work with a CDU 6251 
sony also low cost.

I'm trying to give the U.S.Military people the best I can in shareware.


... To CD or Not To CD  Tom Paradiso  4:920/60
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From: JEFF MASTERMAN                         Number: 9057
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/19/93 10:53a
Subj: Encyclopedia                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Would someone please comment on the available encyclopedias. I am thinking
about buying 94'Encarta but I can get Comptons for about the same money. I want
to know which package has the most useful information for my daughters age 10
and 13. Thanks.
===
 * RM 1.2 00221 * I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it?


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From: GENE MILLSAPS                          Number: 9058
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 12/20/93  9:50p
Subj: Incomplete order                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks again for your comments.  I believe I expected more from the dealer than
what you describe.  Maybe, eventually, I'll mellow out.

Merry Christmas to you and all yours, too! Ever hunting for a cooler closing .
. .

            - Gene
===
 * VbReader 2.01 #NR * Ok, now for a quick backuA&#^1s


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From: JD BROWN                               Number: 9059
  To: KEVIN BEYERS                             Date: 12/21/93 10:42p
Subj: OS/2 CD wanted                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CIS: 72027,2432  Internet: JD_Brown@f3622.n1.z1.fidonet.org   IBM LINK @
DEV0580

KB> JB>  Christmas Special!
KB> 
KB> JB>  OS/2 2.1 on CDROM
KB> 
KB> JB>  $ 85.99 plus shipping.
KB> 
KB> 
KB> JB>  Computer Systems and Software Solutions
KB> JB>  1-615-967-9714
KB> 
KB> 
KB> os/2 2.1 under 100$ how did you do it, I been trying to get a few copy's of

KB> os/2 2.1 on disk and CD-rom but the darm prices are way up 
KB> there even for us <Dealer> I seen os/2 2.1 for wholesale as 
KB> high as 176.00 and It's suggested retail prices was, a arm, 
KB> 2 legs and a head on a GOLD Platter<grin>>



 Now if I was to let you in on my secret sources, they wouldn't be secret
 anymore would they?
 This one is no secret though. I bought several copies when it first came
 out and was offered at the low low price of.......to dealers...





___
 X KWQ/2 1.2a X "Clinton" the chia-pet of chief executives everywhere.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 9060
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/17/93  5:10p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I just got the Gifs galore and it is chestnut.

 GIFs Galore is a Walnut Creek title - I have TWO of them over here, one that
has spent an average of one day per week or a little less on my BBS over the
last 2 years or so (1'st Edition 1992), another one (the CURRENT October 1993
version) in my store stock.

 I ALSO carry the entire Chestnut line, and they do NOT have a "GIFs" disc as
such except POSSIBLY the "Our Solar System" title and/or "Gardening".

 I ALSO have the current Walnut Creek flyer, showing GIFs Galore in both order
form, text description, AND the cover of the current version.

 That little "wizard" logo on the front is the tipoff, along with the copy of
that same figure on the disc itself, not to mention the "Walnut Creet" splashed
all over the paperwork and on the disc itself....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 9061
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/21/93  1:49a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I just got the Gifs galore and it is chestnut.

 You are confused.

 "GIFs Galore" is a Walnut Creek title. Always HAS been, back to the first
edition of 1992 (which I have a copy of, it goes online on my BBS
occasionally).

 Chestnut does NOT have a "GIFS" title (I carry their full line) as such, to
date.


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 9062
  To: CJ JASKIEWICZ                            Date: 12/21/93  8:43a
Subj: CD-ROM SHAREWARE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Jeff, I have a cd titled So Much Shareware vol. #1 I am asking 17.00 or best
>offer plus shipping.

 NIce disc, but the last NEW price I saw on it was about $14.


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 9063
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 12/21/93 11:43a
Subj: BUSTY BABES VOLUME II                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> DH> My wife is 41 and will make you stammer, stutter and drool all over
>You are so-o-o-o-o right! My wife's 52 and I can *HONESTLY* say the same 
about
>her.

 OK, guys, where are the ROMs full of .GIFs of these lassies?

 8-)


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 9064
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 12/21/93  2:21p
Subj: CDROM DISC PRICES12/12/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>A single layer of directories instead of their usual multiple layers  saves
>sysops hours of set up time.  I just installed the Aminet Amiga  shareware
>CD-Rom on my BBS.  There were 136 different directories, some  of which
>contained only one file.  I had to make 3 complete menu  screens just to
>display all the file areas.

 Sounds like a major limitation of your BBS software....

 8-)


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 9065
  To: MIKE BEKETIC                             Date: 12/21/93  2:24p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD PRICES 3/3                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Did you know that I will soon be sueing Scott Higgenbotham (publisher of the
>HACKER Chronicals) for copyright infringement and probably everyone involved
in
>selling this product?

 On what grounds?


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 9066
  To: ROBERT MOORE                             Date: 12/21/93  2:25p
Subj: SPECIALS FOR X-MAS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>When you say a CD ROM drive is 'AT Bus', does this mean the same thing that it
>means for Hard Drives?  In other words 'AT Bus CD ROM' equals 'IDE, plugs into
>IDE paddle board card'?

 NO.

 There is no such thing as an "IDE interface" CD-ROM drive. To date, the ONLY
things that attach to an IDE paddle card are IDE hard drives and a VERY few
models of tape drives.


 * SLMR 2.1a * How will you know me? You'll see me cry....

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From: WESLEY CHEW                            Number: 9067
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 12/22/93  6:44p
Subj: CD CALCULUS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 > John Wiley & Sons, Inc.
 > 1-800-392-6892
 > 1-815-756-8486 (Illinois)

Hi Dave, Thanx for the info. Have a Happy Holiday!

Wes
12.22.93 6:45pm
Oklahoma City

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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 9068
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 12/20/93  9:10a
Subj: Hitachi CDROM's                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to Anthony Furgison, Chris Kuefler said:
CK> I have 3 of them, along with the card that will handle up to
CK> 4. Give me an offer, and I will see how bad I want to sell
CK> them. They DO work, I have all 3 online along with a
CK> mitsumi.

I will pay $322 plus shipping for the three Hitachis, card and cable.  Let me
know what you think.
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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 9069
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 12/20/93  9:13a
Subj: CD-ROM drives!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello, I bought four Hitachi CDR3500 drives from you, so I have been following
your prices in this echo.  I have noticed that your price lists include drives
that say 'AT Interface'.  I thought all CD ROMs used either a standard or a
proprietary SCSI interface.  Is the 'AT Interface' in your ads the same as the
'IDE AT interface'?  Does this mean that you can connect a CD ROM drive that
says 'AT Interface' to a standard IDE controller?
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From: MICHAEL GUIDRY                         Number: 9070
  To: ELLEN COTTON                             Date: 12/22/93  9:57p
Subj: Pro Audio Spectrum 16 Scsi Jack         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On Tue 21 De, Ellen Cotton stated to Michael Guidry:

EC>I have SCSI WORKS from Trantor and use it's PAS driver (ASPI) to ru
EC>Syquest removable media SCSI drive...works fine. The package cost $
EC>know there is at least one advertizer in Computer Shopper that sell
EC>pkg. (can't think of the name right now, but if interested, I'll fi
EC>for you) It's not very fast but I only store artwork on the Syquest
EC>speed is not an important factor for me. Also you cannot make it th
EC>drive.
EC>

Thanks for the response.  The speed isn't that important.  I was thinking
of trying to use an 85 meg scsi that's just been sitting without many
hours on it.  Mostly wanted it as to easily backup important stuff.

After I left the message, I realized that I might get real lucky and get
scsi works with the trantor cable that comes with the drive.  That would
be a nice bonus.

Sure wish this package would show up. Had to go out into the rain and cold
and run back and forth in the law library for 3 hours today to do research
that couldn't wait. It was all stuff that would have been perfect for
computer searching.  With the CD versions I probably could have done it in
half the time without getting up from my chair, except maybe for coffee
[and they don't like coffee in the library either].


Have a good holiday.



... User Friendly: Never having to say - "I read the manual."
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From: JIM BECKHAM                            Number: 9071
  To: DOUG HUNKELE                             Date: 12/22/93  6:04p
Subj: bbs in a box                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Doug Hunkele wrote in a message to All:

DH> Got a cd labled "BBS IN A BOX" published by The Arizona
DH> Macintosh User's Group and Mac Wizards......

BBS In a Box and MacWizards are in HFS format and cannot be used on a PC. If
you want to put Mac files online you will need a disk that is ISO or another
format usuable by PCs.

Jim

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From: JIM BECKHAM                            Number: 9072
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/22/93  9:30p
Subj: Mac Shareware CD for PC BBS             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for a Mac shareware CD that I can use with Maximus. The disk will
need to have Files.BBS format descriptions and be in a PC readable format. BBS
In a Box & Giga ROM will not work.

Does anyone know of a CD that will provide Mac files on a PC-based BBS? BTW:
I'm running Max/2 on HPFS volumes with an Apple 300E drive.

Thanks!

Jim

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From: MICHIAL THOMPSON                       Number: 9073
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/22/93  8:20a
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well Folks I have a few things for sale or trade:


Hardware:

   Everex Excel Stream 60 External Tape Backup Unit
              Uses DC600a or DC6150 for 60 mb storage

   Best Data 96/24 Bps Fax/Modem (No Docs, but do have jumper settings)

   13 44256 (256X4) DRAMS 

Software:

   Lotter Expert       (In Box)
   Casino Spectacular  (In Box)
   SimCity w/ Populous (in Box)
   MS Windows 3.1      (Docs original disks (No Box))
   MS Works for Windows(Docs original disks (No Box))
   MS Money            (Docs original disks (No Box))

   Works, windows, and money came with my computer, I do not use any
   of these packages, so I wish to sell them.
  
   All reasonable offers considered, Leave mail here or call 515-262-6216.

                                  Michial

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From: MICHIAL THOMPSON                       Number: 9074
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/22/93  8:35a
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well Folks I have a few things for sale or trade:


Hardware:

   Everex Excel Stream 60 External Tape Backup Unit
              Uses DC600a or DC6150 for 60 mb storage

   Best Data 96/24 Bps Fax/Modem (No Docs, but do have jumper settings)

   13 44256 (256X4) DRAMS 

Software:

   Lotter Expert       (In Box)
   Casino Spectacular  (In Box)
   SimCity w/ Populous (in Box)
   MS Windows 3.1      (Docs original disks (No Box))
   MS Works for Windows(Docs original disks (No Box))
   MS Money            (Docs original disks (No Box))

   Works, windows, and money came with my computer, I do not use any
   of these packages, so I wish to sell them.
  
   All reasonable offers considered, Leave mail here or call 515-262-6216.

                                  Michial

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 9075
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 12/22/93  5:17a
Subj: trade                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GS>docs and comm. software, and power and telephone cord. Would you be willing
GS>trade one of your CD's for it?  If so, I'm looking for an animated CD rather

Greg, thanks but don't need the modem.
Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 9076
  To: TROY JOHNSON                             Date: 12/22/93  5:54a
Subj: CD FOR TRADE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Troy, just wondering if you got the Amateur disc yet and if you sent
mine.
Randy Neuner


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 9077
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/22/93  6:04a
Subj: Amateur Models CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the new Amateur Models cd disc for sale or trade.  This disc is
new and unopened (shrink wrapped).  Contains gifs and tiffs pictures
similiar to the 'Girl Next Door' type photos.

Randy Neuner


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From: SCOTT PARKS                            Number: 9078
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/21/93 11:02a
Subj: Project Guttenberg                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The Oxford Text Library seems to be not the same as Project Guttenberg
so if anyone has information on obtaining either/both of these collections
on CD it would be greatly appreciated.


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From: LAWRENCE CADE                          Number: 9079
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 12/22/93  2:37a
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will offer you 120.00 including COD shipping for you deal.
Thanks


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 9080
  To: MICHIAL THOMPSON                         Date: 12/24/93  9:43a
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: 12544
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Well Folks I have a few things for sale or trade:

Please only advertise CD ROM products...

tim
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From: LAWRENCE MINTZ                         Number: 9081
  To: STEPHANE SEGUIN                          Date: 12/18/93  4:56p
Subj: Adult CD trade wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Greg Sterling wrote in a message to Joe Burke:

 > GS> Joe,
 > GS> Will trade you Busty Babes 3,vol.1 for ANIMATION FANTASIES.
 > GS> Let me know what you think.

 > Busty Babes 3 ???
 > Was this a typo or is there 3 of them out there now
 > ???

I think the original author of the message meant Busty Babes volume 1, release
3.  There is, as yet, no Busty Babes 3.

Larry

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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 9082
  To: RON MITCHELL                             Date: 12/21/93  3:41a
Subj: Re: Cd rom drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > JM> there is absolutely NO truth to any such limits at all!
 > JM>  The Mitsumi LU002S I recently sold, and the Mitsumi
 > JM> LU005S I now have, each have read every file on every
 > JM> CD-ROM in the place, (about 50 or so), including
 > JM> especially the Hobbes discs I've fed them.  Even

 >I bought an 8-bit 600ms Mitsumi in May.  It will read exactly three discs,
 >and those with a lot of errors.  I bought a 16-bit 350ms Mitsumi in
 >October.  It will read every disc I have.  The 8-bit machine will not read
 >Night Owl 7 or either Shareware Studio vol 1 or 2.  The 8-bit will not read
 >PC-SIG 12.  The 16-bit will.

I have an LU002 slow Mitsumi and although it's fine for the most part, it
does have some problems with the last few directories of Pier 1.  It reads
all the .ZIP directories OK, but MOST of the time it can't read the text
file directories with the descriptions.  Once in a while it can however -
it's an odd problem.

Michael

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 9083
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 12/20/93 11:27p
Subj: Canadian CD Prices    1/6               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Merry Christmas to you!

-> errors.  We will not knowingly be undersold by any other CD-ROM
-> dealer in Canada! If you find a better regularly advertised Canadian
-> price on any of our titles, we'll match that price, and throw in the

   Then you don't know about us! Check out our catalog, also posted on
CRS Online... for that matter, check out some of the nationwide
retailers, or one of our many associated dealers. Here are some
examples:

Ringworld     63.22/72.70taxed    54.99/63.23taxed  Future Shop
Arthur's Teacher    49.50taxed          45.00taxed  Us
Dare, Bluff Die     61.74taxed          40.00taxed  Us
Dinosaur OEM        47.09taxed          40.00taxed  Us
Dinosaur Boxed 75.99/87.38taxed   64.99/74.73taxed  Future Shop

   Drop me a line - I can fax you some info on our dealer pricing.

-> 4)  Becuase of our low pricing, we must now charge 3% for VISA and
-> Mastercard orders UNDER $50.00, on the pre-shipping/tax price. Orders
-> over $50.00 are not effected.

   You may want to check whether or not your vendor account allows this
- to my knowledger, a surcharge is in violation of an agreement with the
credit supplier. If not, please tell me who you're dealing with, as
there are many folks in this echo who would like that information; there
was an extended discussion on this topic last spring.

   Best o' the season...
   Vince
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 9084
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/20/93 11:36p
Subj: Canadian CD-ROM Connectio               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÿ@SUBJECT:Canadian CD-ROM Connection                                  N
                   Canada's CD-ROM Source is...

                   CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA

               6 Armstrong Bay * Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7
               306-789-4654 Voice * 306-789-8690 Fax

  The best from shareware to games to education to adult titles!

  Christmas Specials...  Dare, Bluff or Die      $40
                         ASP Advantage           $29 NEW!
                         Shareware Overload Trio $27 (1.5gig)
                         Shareware Explorer 4disc$59
                         Hot Pix 3-4-5           $35 ID req.
                         OS/2 Box                $25 NEW!

  All prices in Canadian dollars, ALL TAXES INCLUDED!
  Pricing while quantities last, until January 1, 1993.
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From: RICK PEDLEY                            Number: 9085
  To: MATTHEW LYNCH                            Date: 12/21/93 12:51p
Subj: Anyone got a....                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RP>No but I got suckered into buying the old, cruddy Battle
RP>Chess thinking it was the `enhanced' version, not knowing
RP>they'd done two different CD's :-(

ML>Would you be at all interested in selling it if I can't find the
ML>enhanced or BC 4000?

Sure, let's say $12 Cdn including postage. An MO would be best. I have it up
for sale now actually on a local BBS trade echo, but drop me a line sometime if
you're still interested. (It isn't that it's _that_ terrible, it's just that
I'd seen the other one running in a store a few months earlier and it was
incredible -- I assumed I'd bought the same one.)

Rick

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From: RICK PEDLEY                            Number: 9086
  To: JIM KEULER                               Date: 12/21/93 12:51p
Subj: Private employment ne                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RP>                      INTRODUCING CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL

JK>        What the HELL does this have to do with this ECHO!
JK>        --------------------------------------------------

Just ignore it, this happens once in a while where a bunch of messages from
another echo enters a `subspace rift' and ends up in another echo. I'm 99%
certain it wasn't posted here intentionally (because there were so many of them
-- if you see just one such message, that's a good indication someone has been
on a `bombing run' through all the echoes).

Rick

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From: JOYCE ZWEEDYK                          Number: 9087
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/21/93  8:21p
Subj: New Encyclopedia                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

You posted a message about a new encyclopedia you were selling, and I asked you
if you had looked at it and if it was worth upgrading.

hope to hear from you... I'm interested in upgrading

Joyce

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From: JONATHAN MCGIRR                        Number: 9088
  To: GEORGE CORDOVA                           Date: 12/22/93  8:04a
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> how about sending me the newest night owl, or PC sig, or maybe if I a
-> lucky "Southern Beauties".

They'll hang you for that in SLC, UT!! <grin>


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From: TONY MANN                              Number: 9089
  To: RICHARD WILSON                           Date: 12/22/93  6:35a
Subj: Drivers                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Richard!

Sunday December 19 1993 22:25, Richard Wilson wrote to All:

 RW> I just purchased the Texel DM-3028 SCSI Internal CDRom using an Adaptec
 RW> 1542-b SCSI controller card. Is anyone running the same config and if so
 RW> where can I get a driver for it. The Drivers that came with the  CD Drive
 RW> don't work. I have tried a bunch of different driver to no avail. If
 RW> anyone can tell me which driver the Adaptec needs to see I would certainly
 RW> appreciate it...

  You need Adaptec's ASPICD & ASPI4DOS drivers to get the cdrom going on the
1542, once you have those (they can be download from Adaptec's board I believe)
you can have the cdrom going in about 5 minutes.

Here are Adaptec's part numbers for there current driver set:

  ASW-1140 - Non-ASPI Novell NetWare Driver
  ASW-1410 - ASPI Manager and ASPI Disk Module for DOS - the ASPI4DOS is here.
  ASW-210  - ASPI Tape Module and Sytron SY-TOS for Tape for DOS.
  ASW-410  - ASPI CD-ROM Module for DOS. - Here the ASPICD that you need.
  ASW-1420 - ASPI Manager and Disk Module for OS/2
  ASW-220  - ASPI Tape Module and Sytron SY-TOS for Tape for OS/2
  ASW-1440 - ASPI Manager and Disk Module for NetWare 386

Hope this helps.  I don't have their BBS Number handy but I'm sure it's easy
enought for you to find.

Tony

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From: MATTHEW LYNCH                          Number: 9090
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/16/93  6:29a
Subj: Anyone got a....                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

Hey out there....  Does anyone have a Battle Chess Enhanced CD or a Chess
Master 3000 (or National Lampoon's Chess Master 5 Billion, for that matter)
They'd be willing to part with for a few bucks and shipping?  I know for
awhile, BattleChess came bundled with CD-ROM drives and Chess Master 3k still
is..  if anyone wants to part with these, lemme know...  Thanks.


-=[Matthew]=-  (The X Frontiers)

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 9091
  To: ANTHONY FURGISON                         Date: 12/22/93 12:36p
Subj: Hitachi CDROM's                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 AF> ASAP. If I don't find anything this week I am going to get a couple of 
 AF> new cdroms. If they are the 3500's I will give you 
 AF> $120 apiece with the one card.

Neither. It is the model CDR-1503S.

CJK

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From: VIC HLUSHAK                            Number: 9092
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 12/22/93  9:37p
Subj: BB1                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks but I have a Fax/Modem just like yours.

Merry Christmas. EH!

:-) Vic

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9093
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 12/23/93  1:15a
Subj: BB                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JJ>How many versions of Busty Babes are there?
JJ>can someone list them?
JJ>3 or 4 or ......?

Well, Ms. Noga would be your #1 source, but I believe I have it correct
also:  BB vol 1 rel 1, vol 1 rel 2, vol 1 rel 3, and the current vol 2
rel 1.  Four altogether.

Hey Lee, any word on a vol 2 rel 2 or something along those lines?

Later,
.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9094
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/23/93  1:16a
Subj: NEW CD TITLES.....                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #1:  NEW CD ARRIVALS   |
           |____________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

 20TH CENTURY SPORTS * Multimedia journal of sport history from 1900 on.$29
 ADVENTURES IN HEAVEN * Ultimate game collection!.......................$19
 A.S.P. SHAREWARE * Finally! A CD full of works from ASP authors........$22
>CD POWERBOX 2 * The newest of the new! Current shareware hits. BBS.....$29
 CD-ROM OF CD-ROMS * Complete guide to over 4000 current CD titles......$29
>CLIPART WAREHOUSE * Looking for a TON of nice clipart? Get it all here.$13
 DARE, BLUFF, OR DIE * Exciting old West shoot'em up game...............$29
>DIGITAL DREAMS 2 * Newest all-original "R" CD. No dupes to 1! BBS......$29
 DUNE * Exciting multimedia action game on CD! Great animation & sound..$39
 FRACTUNES * Colorful, ever-changing graphics synched with music........$30
 GAMES COLLECTION * A pure-games CD featuring 90% '93 file dates! BBS...$26
 GIRLS OF MARDI GRAS * New "R" adult film showcasing wild party girls...$43
>GIRLS OF RISQUE * Another classy softer image disc. BBS-Ready..........$35
 GROLIER'S MPC 6.0 * The latest edition of Grolier's encyclopedia.......$45
>HAM RADIO/SCANNER COMPANION * Lots of essential utilities for Hams.....$23
 HEALTH & MEDICAL DIRECTORY * Guide to all doctors & hospitals in U.S...$27
 HOBBES OS/2 10/93 * The latest version w/ 3000 current OS/2 files!.....$16
 HOLLYWOOD THE BIZARRE * Lives & deaths of the stars w/ 1 hr. of voices.$43
 HORROR & SCI-FI FILMS * Full details of over 2300 films w/ 100s of pix.$43
 IMAGES OF NASA * The finest collection of authentic NASA photos........$25
 LEARNING HEAVEN * Mind challenging educational games...................$19
 LINUX OPERATING SYSTEM * Unix-like operating system for PC's...........$29
 MAD DOG MCCREE * Great shoot 'em up game with real, full-motion video..$39
 MULTIMEDIA MAGIC COLLECTION * Complete commercial programs & M/M demos.$28
 NEWSWEEK INTERACTIVE * An exciting look back at Newsweek's top stories.$26
>OCEANS BELOW * Fantastic multimedia exploration of undersea life.......$27
 OS/2BOX * The best, most recent OS/2 shareware CD. Fully BBS-ready.....$25
 -->SPECIAL PAK: OS/2BOX + HOBBES 10/93.................................$39
>PROPHONE 1993 4TH QTR * Latest update of the 7-CD phone directory.....$109
>PUBLISHER'S PARADISE PRO * Update with new Truetype fonts & clipart....$35
>REBEL ASSAULT * New and hot from Lucasarts. Great interactive game.....$49
 RETURN TO ZORK * Live-action video game w/ Hollywood actors. Great!....$50
 SHAREWARE 93 VOL 2 * Sep. 93 release w/ all new 1993 files! BBS-ready..$20
 SO MUCH SPACE! * A galaxy full of breathtaking scenes from space.......$24
 SOLAR HEAVEN * Nice collection of astronomy & astrology programs.......$23
 SPACE & ASTRONOMY * Over 7000 image & shareware files on astronomy.....$27
 SPACE SHUTTLE * Multimedia adventure aboard the shuttle w/ 50 missions.$25
 TECH ARSENAL * 1000's of recent, programming and techincal files.......$22
>VIDEO MOVIE GUIDE * Reviews over 12,000 movies, from "B" to the hits...$28
 WINDOWS COLLECTION * A Windows-only CD with ALL '93 file dates! BBS....$26

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

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 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
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 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
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 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


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From: SHANNON ADAMS                          Number: 9095
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/22/93 10:02p
Subj: CD's FOR TRADE/SALE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following CD's for trade or sale.

1993 Guinness Multimedia Disc of Records

Civilization/Mantis

Sierra's Sneek Peeks

Where in the World is Carmen San Diego - Deluxe

20th Century Video Almanac

I am looking for:  7th Guest, Microsoft Cinemania, or anything similar.

Make an offer.
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From: DAVID LEBEL                            Number: 9096
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/22/93  6:24p
Subj: CD Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For Sale:
NEW! Phillips CM205 CD Rom Drive (int.) 375ms access.
                      $150.00
Thanks,
       David Lebel
Landmark Computer Services
   Metro(817)467-5102


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From: ROBBIE BUNCH                           Number: 9097
  To: JOHN STROIK                              Date: 12/23/93 10:18a
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Catalog!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting JOHN STROIK to Robbie Bunch <=-

 JS> Just joined this topic. Would like a copy of your catalog if still
 JS> available. Send to:   John Stroik     600 Shady Glen Lane
 JS> Saukville Wi.  53080               Thank You.


      Sorry John, but I don't have a catalog. You probably saw my name
      when I was asking for one.
      There are several people who do have catalogs advertised here. You 
      can post to ALL DEALERS and ask for them to send you a catalog.
      Mike Shannon is one name that I can remember.

      Hope this helps.

      Happy Holidays!

      Robbie
      :)



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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 9098
  To: LAWRENCE MINTZ                           Date: 12/22/93 10:11a
Subj: Adult CD trade wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Greg Sterling wrote in a message to Joe Burke:

 > GS> Joe,
 > GS> Will trade you Busty Babes 3,vol.1 for ANIMATION
LM>FANTASIES.
 > GS> Let me know what you think.

 > Busty Babes 3 ???
 > Was this a typo or is there 3 of them out there now
 > ???

LM>I think the original author of the message meant Busty Babes
LM>volume 1, release 3.  There is, as yet, no Busty Babes 3.

LM>Larry


Larry,
Thanks.  You're right.  It's VOl.1 release 3.  My goof.
Greg

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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 9099
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 12/22/93 10:16a
Subj: BB                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JJ>How many versions of Busty Babes are there?
JJ>can someone list them?
JJ>3 or 4 or ......?


Jeff,
I think there's BB#1 vol.1, vol.2, and vol.3.; and BB#2 which was just
released.  I'm guessing, but I believe there is four total.
Maybe someone else knows for certain.
Greg

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From: RICK WICKER                            Number: 9100
  To: HARRY MITCHELL                           Date: 12/23/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: Hard core                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On Tue 14-Dec-1993  9:37a, Harry Mitchell wrote:
HM>   I'm looking for some hard core porno on CD Rom.  I am also looking for a
HM> list of what you have on a CD Rom if you would like to call me you may do


If you manage to get to a computer show, you willprobably find many many
software dealers selling CD-ROMs.

I have one (not getting rid of it though, just advising) called StareWare.  It
is awesome!  Full of XXX Gifs, No Dupes tha I have found, and nothing that
looks like kiddie porn either.  I think I paid 29 US Dollars for it at a show
in Virginia Beach, Virginia.

Rick Wicker
 

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From: CHRISTIAN HEDEMARK                     Number: 9101
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 12/23/93  2:22p
Subj: Re: CD Disks for Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Eddie Phillips to Al Kaiser about Re: CD Disks for Sal


EP>  AK> I have the following CD Disks for sale:
EP> 
EP>  AK> Enhanced Battle Chess     (Interesting Tutorial)
EP>  AK> Space Quest IV
EP>  AK> Arthur's Teacher Trouble
EP> 
EP> I'd like to offer $40 delivered for the 3 CD's above and I'll prepay.  Let 
EP> know....my number's in the tagline.
EP>  
EP> ... Voice: 919-870-6926 (eves/weekends)
EP> ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
EP> 
EP> --- QScan v1.02b
EP>  * Origin: Southern Pride BBS  5gig PcBoard  772-4143  772-4183 (1:151/151)
                                                 ^^^^^^^^  ^^^^^^^^

Yeah, your number is there.  But not your area code <smirk>

Warthog

                  

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From: SCOTT BRIGADE                          Number: 9102
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/23/93  4:12p
Subj: Night owl 10.1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->                      N I G H T  O W L  10.1

What are the differences between 10 and 10.1?


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From: AID HORTON                             Number: 9103
  To: DENIS                                    Date: 12/21/93  4:16p
Subj: labtest                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

denis labtest just hung for me with no apparent mesage or anything

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From: JEFF WEISS                             Number: 9104
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 12/21/93  9:34a
Subj: Re: *~ Mitsumi 2X Cd-rom                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Jeff, interested in a trade?  I have a SyQuest 44M removable SCSI
No. $ only.  Thanks for asking.


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From: JEFF WEISS                             Number: 9105
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/21/93  8:19a
Subj: *! Custom CD-ROMs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We put YOUR DATA on a writable CD-ROM.
                               ------
 
We will transfer up to 650 megabytes of data from your tape/removable
media to one CD-ROM.
 
 o     FULL CONFIDENTIALITY is assured - we don't inspect your data.
 o     Quick turn around time is provided - same day service available.
 o     Data integrity is guaranteed - 30 day money back warranty.
 o     Guaranteed to work on any standard CD-ROM drive.

 - Free up space on expensive magnetic media.
 - Archive your software collection.
 - Consolidate shareware/GIF CDs to eliminate dupes/old versions.
 - Make copies for your friends.
 - Software development alternative to "glass master"
   - Save hundreds of $$$,
   - Eliminate days of delay.

CALL for a FREE writable CD-ROM primer.
 
           Eternal ARCHIVE Solutions, Inc.
                650 Cooke Street, #3
                    P.O. Box 4402
              Waterbury, CT 06704-0402
                 (203) 759-0574 voice
                 (203) 759-0553  fax

... The tagline from our lawyers:
Customer is responsible for compliance with all licenses, laws, and
  regulations regarding his software or data.  EASI shall not be held
  liable for customer's failure to comply with these requirements.

... CD-ROMs Made EASI (sm)

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From: JEFF WEISS                             Number: 9106
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/21/93  8:22a
Subj: *! Writable CD-ROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We now have the following writable CDs and hardware for sale.

CD-R Discs:
 
  Ricoh 74 min (660 MB) CD-R discs $19.75 each (any quantity)
 
CD-ROM Recorders:
       ---------   
  Philips CD-ROM RECORDER                              $5,495
    - Philips CDD521 Double Speed CD-ROM Recorder
    - Adaptec 1540c SCSI Controller
    - CD-GEN Premastering Software >now does Multi-Session<
     
  Ricoh CD-ROM RECORDER                                $3,895
    - Ricoh RS 9200CD Single Speed CD-ROM Recorder
    - SCSI Controller
    - CD Record Software 2.0

These recorders are ideal for archiving, and mass data storage.
The blank 650 meg CD-Rs are much cheaper than any other removable
media.  Also, the CD-ROM readers are much cheaper than any Bernoulli,
Syquest, or WORM drive.  They're even cheaper than SCSI tape drives.
     
If you want to transfer data to CD-ROM but don't want to purchase
a CD-ROM recorder at this time, we are pleased to offer you our
DATA CONVERSION SERVICES.  We will transfer your data to CD-ROM for you.
 
Call for a FREE writable CD-ROM primer.
 
           Eternal ARCHIVE Solutions, Inc.
                650 Cooke Street, #3
                    P.O. Box 4402
              Waterbury, CT 06704-0402
                 (203) 759-0574 voice
                 (203) 759-0553  fax

A $4.95 handling charge is added to all media orders, no matter how
large.  Only the actual shipping charges are billed to your order.
Connecticut residents add 6% sales tax.

... CD-ROMs Made EASI (sm)

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From: JEFF WEISS                             Number: 9107
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/21/93  8:23a
Subj: *! Mitsumi 2X CD $219                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mitsumi FX001D double-speed internal CD-ROM  ---  $219
  300 - 350 KBPS sustained throughput
  280 - 250 ms average access time
  AT bus interface card included
  All necessary signal and audio cables included
  All necessary install software and manuals included
  caddyless front loading tray (takes 3" CDs as well)
  headphone jack with volume control

1 year warranty.

           Eternal ARCHIVE Solutions, Inc.
                650 Cooke Street, #3
                    P.O. Box 4402
              Waterbury, CT 06704-0402
                 (203) 759-0574 voice
                 (203) 759-0553  fax

... CD-ROMs Made EASI (sm)

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From: JEFF WEISS                             Number: 9108
  To: DOUG HUNKELE                             Date: 12/21/93 10:04a
Subj: Re: bbs in a box                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Doug Hunkele to All <=-

 DH> Got a cd labled "BBS IN A BOX" published by The Arizona 
 DH> Macintosh User's Group and Mac Wizards......

 DH> I run a DOS system with and get the error "Disc not ISO 
 DH> 9660 or High Sierra Format" when I try to read it in the 
 DH> drives....any suggestions on how to read it, i.e 
 DH> DRIVERS??...or is a MAC the only thing that can handle it...

It sounds like an HFS disc.  MAC people enjoy being incompatible
with the rest of the world <g>.  Seriously, the HFS (Macintosh
Hierarchical File System) format allows long filenames and other
features that Mac users enjoy.  The only problem is it's not
compliant with the ISO 9660 standard so nobody else can read it.
But, why would anyone else want to?  It's Mac stuff.
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From: JEFF WEISS                             Number: 9109
  To: MICHAEL GUIDRY                           Date: 12/21/93 10:19a
Subj: Re: Pro Audio Spectrum 1                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Michael Guidry to All <=-

 MG> rom. It comes with a Toshiba external drive.  Think it's the 3401e
 MG> [should be arriving this week] and a Trantor miniscsi parallel port
 MG> cable. 

 MG> 1.  Does the PAS 16 support the 3401E

Probably.  Depends on the driver.  The SCSI Works ASPI driver works fine
with the 3401b.

 MG> 2.  I know that Mediavision makes an attachment to allow external scsi
 MG> devices to plug into the PAS16.  Do any of the dealers on here
 MG> sell it or a cable that does the same thing, and, if so, how much?

Assuming you've got the full-blown PAS-16 with the 50 pin SCSI connector
near the front of the card, you can connect any non-booting SCSI
device you like.  Last time I checked on the price of the cable,
Mediavision wanted $50 for it.  I told them to pound sand.  What you need
is a ribbon cable that has a 50 pin dual inline socket for the PAS
and a 50 pin centronics to plug in the external device.  These parts
are all easy to find.  The only thing I haven't seen is a bracket to
mount the cable in (you can put a hole in your case if you have the time).
I'm going to put one together for myself, so call me if you want me
to make one for you too.  If anyone has an appropriate bracket, let
me know.

 MG> 3.  Mediavision says that Trantor sells a package called SCSI works
 MG> that allows the PAS16 scsi port to support other scsi devices like
 MG> hard drives and tape units. Is the Trantor the only set of drivers
 MG> I can use?  Would I have to get that directly from Trantor, or from
 MG> a dealer on here.  Again, if so, how much?

FREE with your trantor MiniSCSI parallel adapter!  Otherwise, any Adaptec
dealer (like myself) should be able to sell you a copy for about $75.

Regards,
Jeff
203-759-0574 v
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From: DOUG SUMMERS                           Number: 9110
  To: WAYNE HOLLIMAN                           Date: 12/18/93  4:56p
Subj: Wanted:TOSHIBA 3401b                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WH-] I'm looking for a TOSHIBA 3401b (internal SCSI) CD-ROM drive at a decent
  -] price.  I can get one shipped COD to my door for $380.00 from a company in
  -] Computer Shopper.  Can you beat that price for a bare drive??

Wayne,I have an almost new one for $325 plus shipping if interested.
(619)444-6368 before 9pm PST or reply here.


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From: RICHARD JOHNSON                        Number: 9111
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/23/93  3:44p
Subj: CD Rom Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I HAVE NOT GOT THE CD ROM DRIVE AT ALL IF I DO I WILL SEND IT BACK TO
YOU IN THE MAIL. I DO NOT HAVE ANY MORE ROOM FOR A CD ROM DRIVE IN MY
COMPTER TO PUT IT IN THERE.

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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 9112
  To: KEVIN DOUGLAS                            Date: 12/23/93 11:06p
Subj: Re: Flame XXX Adult CD  Super hot!!     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KD> The FLAME adult CD-ROM is _THE_ superb collection of organized
 KD> adult SVGA GIFS
 
 KD> * Over 3400 hard core images * Each image adjusted for correct
 KD> colors & contrast * Absolutely no BBS ads or logos of any kind! *
 KD> Not a single dupe!!! * FILES.BBS in each image directory * Comes
 KD> with two viewers, NOMSSI & SVGA, ready to run from the root
 KD> directory. * The NOMSSI viewer auto-configures to any VGA/SVGA
 KD> card and does slide-shows. * SVGA also auto-configures and has no
 KD> problems with images taller than 768. * Very professionally done
 KD> cover & tray artwork.  (Created & rendered in 3DS)

     What's the price on this? I'm interested. Also where to send the check:)
         Mike




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From: DAVE WELDON                            Number: 9113
  To: MAX HILL                                 Date: 12/23/93  9:27p
Subj: BIG SKY ROM                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please let me know something about Big Sky Rom 1 and Top Drawer - these
are two titles I have not seen in my travels

Many thanks
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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 9114
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 12/23/93  4:49p
Subj: Canadian CD Prices                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


VS>-> 4)  Becuase of our low pricing, we must now charge 3% for VISA and
VS>-> Mastercard orders UNDER $50.00, on the pre-shipping/tax price. Orders
VS>-> over $50.00 are not effected.

VS>   You may want to check whether or not your vendor account allows this
VS>- to my knowledger, a surcharge is in violation of an agreement with the
VS>credit supplier. If not, please tell me who you're dealing with, as
VS>there are many folks in this echo who would like that information; there
VS>was an extended discussion on this topic last spring.

Greetings:

Yes, we checked into this as well, and we have since discontinued the
policy of a surcharge.

Regards,

Hayden Bradshaw
HRB Computer Services
(905) 830-1615
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From: LARRY FOX                              Number: 9115
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/23/93  8:16a
Subj: Wanted: CD-ROM Drive                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking to add a CD-ROM drive to my BBS.  I have the following items to
offer for trade:
  
   14" Imtec VGA Multiscan monitor, rated at 800x600 but will    
      do 1024x768 with some controllers, .31 dot pitch, t/s base  

Please, trade offers only. 

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From: JIM HILGEFORD                          Number: 9116
  To: AL KAISER                                Date: 12/22/93  5:05p
Subj: CD Disks for Sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (19 Dec 93) Al Kaiser wrote to All...

 AK> I have the following CD Disks for sale:
 AK> 
 AK> Jones In The Fast Lane
 AK> Enhanced Battle Chess     (Interesting Tutorial)
 AK> Spirit of Excalibur
 AK> Space Quest IV
 AK> Arthur's Teacher Trouble
 AK> 
 AK> Make and offer.  The more you buy the cheaper they will be.  Drop me a
 AK> note here.
 AK>  * Origin: Ka1ifq Tcp/Ip Unix-Dos Network (203)238-0462 (1:141/820)
        I would be interested in Arthur's Teacher Trouble for my Grand 
        Daughter. $25.00 and you pay UPS. Call 602-544-9657 or get me
        your address so I can send you a certified check.
        Thanks  JIm

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From: RICK PEDLEY                            Number: 9117
  To: JAY TAYLOR                               Date: 12/23/93 12:55p
Subj: Battle chess enh                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JT>I have Battle Chess Enhanced that I would sell you for $25.  Let me know
JT>if you still want it.

Thanks Jay, yes I do want it, but I'll have to sell the other one first. Anyone
want the UNenhanced Battle Chess on CD-ROM for 12$US/14$Cdn, shipping included?
(brand new condition).

Rick

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From: KEITH SHEEHAN                          Number: 9118
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/22/93 12:05a
Subj: OS/2 CDS                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Last month you had the OS/2 Box and & Hobbes CDs specially priced. Are these
discs still on sale? I've been in school for the past month & a half and really
couldn't afford them until now. (Hard going back to class at 23 but I want to
get out of retail.ÿ) Also do you have the LINYX UNIX-clone operating system CD
that's put out by Walnut Creek. My cousin's husband recommends it for learning
UNIX. Thanx.


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From: KEITH SHEEHAN                          Number: 9119
  To: JEREMY MILLER                            Date: 12/22/93 12:11a
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

7th Guest is a MUST HAVE CD. Return to Zork is also very entertaning especially
if you love the old text games. Another excellent CD game is LucasArts' Rebel
Assult CD. EXCELLENT. Haven't seen Star Wars Chess on CD but I know the
Flopp÷³y version recommends at least a 486 so that may be a comsideration. Let
me know if you hear anything on the Terminaor CD. I saw a demo at Summer CES
and from whwat I saw it looked great.


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From: JEREMY ROLLINGS                        Number: 9120
  To: JEAN-LOUIS BONTRONT                      Date: 12/23/93 12:33a
Subj: Asimov CD                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JB>Is there any such thing as a "Complete Asimov" CD collection of his
JB>sci-fi writings?

Could you drop me a post when you get some info on this? 
It sounds great. 

Jeremy in Chicago. ->FidoNet - 1:115/477  ->CircuitNet - 312005
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From: VLADIMIR GLUSICA                       Number: 9121
  To: CHRIS SMART                              Date: 12/22/93  7:44p
Subj: Asimov CD                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> JB>Is there any such thing as a "Complete Asimov" CD collection of hi
-> JB>sci-fi writings?
->
-> I don't know, but wow!  What a great idea!
->
I'm in !!!!!!!
If it's up thare let me know ??????
Vladimir


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From: HOWARD RICE                            Number: 9122
  To: JIM THOMAS                               Date: 12/22/93  9:36p
Subj: 4 TITLES $45                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

(1:371/1302)
JT|COULD GO $40 SHIPPED FOR THESE TITLES ECHO HERE OF CALL JIM THOMAS
  |(813)472-3266 THANKS, JIM
  | HR> Mavis Teaches Typing
  | HR> World Atlas
  | HR> Us Atlas
  | HR> Chess Master 3000

JT| HR> PC versions on one disk.  $45+4shipping.

JT| HR>   Howard Rice 708-433-0074  Days & sometimes late PM.
  | HR>   1805 St.Johns Ave. Highland Park, IL. 60035
  | HR>  * Origin: NezulD's DomaiN - 9 Lines 13.5 GIG (1:115/300)

Split the difference?  Send a check for $45.00 and I'll ship.
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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 9123
  To: ADAM BRIAND                              Date: 12/23/93 10:32a
Subj: 24 bit true color cards                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <12-18-93 14:48> Adam Briand wrote:

AB>     | BTW, one of my businesses is selling computer hardware and I can
AB>
AB>     | sell you a 1M 24 bit true color video graphics card for between
AB>
AB>     | $65.00 and $100.00.  That will enable you to view the TIF files
AB>  if
AB>     | you would like that capability.
AB>
AB>  I would be VERY interested in buying one of those video cards.  Does
AB>  it
AB>  display 24-bit colour on a regular Multisync SVGA monitor or do you
AB>  need
AB>  to buy a new monitor also?

No, you would not need to buy a new monitor.

Here are the choices you have and there cost, at this time, not including
shipping and COD (if you prefer not to prepay):

1M Cirrus Logic Win Accelerator                 $65.00
ET - 4000 1M                                    $79.00

VESA LOCAL BUS
ET - 4000 1M                                    $95.00
Genoa 1M                                        $98.00

There are also many cards that are over $100.00.

Let me know if you are interested.  Also prices are subject to change (usually
cheaper but not always).

Please call me voice at 407-831-3011 to order.  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 9124
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/23/93  7:40a
Subj: Re: Flame XXX Adult CD  Super           Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <12-19-93 23:57> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS>> LN>  These directories alone can be challenged under the "RICO"

MS>> And they're located in Virginia too.  Isn't that state on your "hit
MS>> list"??

Correct--Typically there is one city tougher in a state then others, but
according to the 'Hit-list', it shows the *ENTIRE* state of VA, has no
tolerance for obscenity--I hope this outfit knows what they are doing, and they
don't find out the hard way--

I heard an interesting rumour, and I don't know if it's true, but I heard the
head dude who made the Hot Pix series hiked to Mexico, his BBS is for sale, and
their bookstore closed. If it be true, I surely can understand why !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 9125
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 12/23/93  7:50a
Subj: BBS disc's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <12-21-93 17:32> Mark Walker wrote:

MW>>  >Please let me know if you agree that this is a nominal fee.

MW>> Well it depends...considering that there is at least one other
MW>> supplier of  quality scans and they are not charging a per node fee
MW>> and you are, it could  put your disk out of the market for BBS use.

Well, whoever you are referring to, you can believe that Lions Den will *NEVER*
charge a node fee, and the charging of a node fee, is not the way the industry
is going.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 9126
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 12/23/93  5:02a
Subj: Re: No disc                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DV>shipped to you right away or a "Bodacious Beauties" disc in mid January.
DV>I will ship either one you want, if you will provide me with your UPS shippi
DV>address.

The Bodac Beaut will do.  But you never answered my question of working
with him.  Thank you for replying.

Randy Neuner
196 Hughes St
Ft Huachuca, AZ 85613


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 9127
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/23/93  5:14a
Subj: Disks                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Lee, received the disks yesterday (Wed) in good condition.  Thanks alot
and Happy Holidays.  My holidays are looking up.

Randy Neuner


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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 9128
  To: AUDIE VICKERS                            Date: 12/21/93  5:47p
Subj: BUSTY BABES II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> BUSTY BABES II.  The quality of the
-> scans is JJ>excellent [...]
-> JJ>shareware programs
->
-> This being one of my first adult CDs, I too was surprised to find ANY
-> shareware on the CD. you gotta admit, there's some good
-> lookin' women on this thing!!

   Last year, one of my pet peeves as a BBS operator with a
single disc player was that both adult files and new shareware files
were popular downloads, but there were few *quality* discs out that
contained both, and what few there were just devoted one directory to
shareware. Personally, I think its great that someone has taken that
idea, and run with it... its an excellent disc, both in erotica, and in
shareware.

   Thumbs up.

   Vince
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 9129
  To: GENE GEIGER                              Date: 12/21/93  5:50p
Subj: LIMITED TIME SPECIAL                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> >10 left: LIMITED EDITION Autographed Busty Babes Volume I/r3  $49
->   Whose autograph? Yours?  -=Gene=-

   :-)  I don't think that would increase the value... no, its
autographed by two of the models on the disc who are shown in their
own directory, exclusively on Busty Volume I, release 3.

   Vince
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From: TROY JOHNSON                           Number: 9130
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 12/23/93  1:58a
Subj: CD FOR TRADE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Troy, just wondering if you got the Amateur disc yet and if you sent
-> mine.
-> Randy Neuner
->
->
->  * OLX 2.1 TD * --T-A+G-L-I+N-E--+M-E-A+S-U-R+I-N-G+--G-A+U-G-E--
->
->
-> --- WM v3.10/93-0833
->  * Origin: High Noon BBS (602) 459-4034 Ft Huachuca,  (1:309/71)
Have not got it yet, and yes I am sure that she sent it Tuesday, I will
ask her...I have had to send out a feww of them, and will double check
tomorrow, have a Merry X-Mas

Troy

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From: HERB ZWIRN                             Number: 9131
  To: DAVID MOLDOVAN                           Date: 12/22/93  9:51a
Subj: Phone and SCSI Card                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->1:272/25
 
 DM>A) UltraStor UltraSCSI Kit (34F SCSI-II VESA Local bus,
 
 DM>  The card is brand new and still in shrink wrap.  $175 firm!
 
 DM>B) Panasonic KX-T3980, 2 line, 10 channel, cordless phone.  About 10
 
           How's about money? Might go for both of these, how do we
           arrange it?
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From: HERB ZWIRN                             Number: 9132
  To: JARERD STEIN                             Date: 12/22/93  8:41p
Subj: cd                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Subj: Re: SONY DUEL CDROM DRIVE      Conf: (14) DB_TECH
 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 dont know the exact ms but it is dual sony external cd with card cable and
 software needed to work
 very good
 no box but never used..
 hook it up but never got any cd's
 so its brand
 
 
 Do you still have this, pls advise, or call. Thanx..............
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From: FREDERICK VAN DEN ABBEEL               Number: 9133
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/21/93  7:37p
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Attention:All interested computer users.

             My name is Frederick Van den Abbeel and I work for Maxmedia
Distibuting Inc which is a local CD-ROM seller in Orlando. We carry 1000's of
titles in stock and if quality and excellant service are what you are looking
for please give me a call and I will be happy to answer any questions you may
have or to send you out any information. Please feel free to call me a
1-800-444-MRCD. Merry Christmas and a Happy new Year.




                                                Thank-You,
                                                Frederick


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From: JERRY CORNELIUS                        Number: 9134
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/22/93  1:42p
Subj: Flame XXX Adult CD  Supe                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>LN>  be as descriptive in the future--If you are not aware,
MS>LN> 1994 is gonna be the
MS>LN>  'Obscenity' challenges for CD-ROMS. This is why
MS>LN> publishers are switching ov
MS>LN>  to licensed/soft collections--But, if you have

Yeah, yeah.  She said the same thing last year.  In fact, she always
seems to say the things which will prompt panicky buyers to pay a
premium for the type of discs she publishes.  I'm sure that's
coincidental, though.

But this year the sky really will fall.

 * SLMR 2.1 * 

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9135
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/24/93  3:35a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-GIGO(4446) ZyX
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: *********** REFURBISHED  HITAC         Number: 9136
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/24/93  3:35a
Subj:                                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Daisy-chainable to 8 drives!
These are the long awaited refurbished drives, 1 step above Model 3500
$130.00 bare unit, 30 day warrantee, 680 meg,
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariant.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-GIGO(4446) ZyX
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 9137
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/24/93 10:14a
Subj: * CD-ROMS for Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROMS for Sale

Software Options CD from IBM ...................  $13
The World Factbook - DOS .......................  $13
Calculus (Anton) 1st 3 chapters ................  $20
Loom ...........................................  $22
Q&A 4.0 from Symantec ..........................  $39
Tax-Prep 1993 ..................................  $12
CD-ROM Premier .................................  $12
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $14
PC Globe, PC USA and Automap ...................  $22
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $59
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $ 9
PC Sig Library 9th edition .....................  $11
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $14
Sneek Peeks from Sierra ........................  $13
Corel Art Show 3 with large Book ...............  $22
Phoenix-CD Version 3.0 .........................  $12
Chessmaster 3000 ...............................  $24
Groliers Encyclopedia ..........................  $33

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Registered Symantec Q&A Consultant


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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 9138
  To: MICHAEL CROSSON                          Date: 12/24/93  6:30p
Subj: Re: Cd rom drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > JM> especially the Hobbes discs I've fed them.  Even

 >I bought an 8-bit 600ms Mitsumi in May.  It will read 
 >exactly three discs,
 >and those with a lot of errors.  I bought a 16-bit 350ms Mitsumi in
 >October.  It will read every disc I have.  The 8-bit 
 >machine will not read
 >Night Owl 7 or either Shareware Studio vol 1 or 2.  
 MC> The 8-bit will not read
 >PC-SIG 12.  The 16-bit will.

 MC> I have an LU002 slow Mitsumi and although it's fine for the most part, it
 MC> does have some problems with the last few directories of Pier 1.  It reads
 MC> all the .ZIP directories OK, but MOST of the time it can't read the text
 MC> file directories with the descriptions.  Once in a while it can however -
 MC> it's an odd problem.

Howdy Michael,

I'm going to check out my slow Mitsumi with my 16-bit card the next time I take
the BBS down for maintenance.  According to the docs both drives are ISO 9660
compatible.  I personally believe that the problem lies in the interface.

The 8-bit does not have the adaptability that the 16-bit has.  When I changedto
a 16-bit my problems ceased, and the only difference was the interupt I used. 
Why it made a difference I don't know.  The interupt for the 8-bit was unused
by my machine, but the drive would barely read any CD's.

                                      Ron

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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 9139
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/24/93 10:38a
Subj: DRIVE WANTED                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for the best price on a new NEC 3XI drive.

Thanks!

Ron


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From: GREG COBB                              Number: 9140
  To: TIM PEETERS                              Date: 12/22/93 11:15p
Subj: CDs                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Bet its your BIOS.

I imagine it is.  I ran Check-It and I couldn't find anything wrong there,
except for IRQ conflicts.  I don't know why I'd have them though.  I only have
Com 3 and 4 occupied by something.  I don't even have my mouse set up.  This is
one thing that has really puzzled me.  I appreciate the help though Tim.

-G-


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From: JOE KISLO                              Number: 9141
  To: JEFF WEISS                               Date: 12/24/93  4:12p
Subj: *! Mitsumi 2X CD $219                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JW>Mitsumi FX001D double-speed internal CD-ROM  ---  $219
JW>  300 - 350 KBPS sustained throughput
JW>  280 - 250 ms average access time
JW>  AT bus interface card included
JW>  All necessary signal and audio cables included
JW>  All necessary install software and manuals included
JW>  caddyless front loading tray (takes 3" CDs as well)
JW>  headphone jack with volume control

JW>1 year warranty.

JW>           Eternal ARCHIVE Solutions, Inc.
JW>                650 Cooke Street, #3
JW>                    P.O. Box 4402
JW>              Waterbury, CT 06704-0402
JW>                 (203) 759-0574 voice
JW>                 (203) 759-0553  fax

JW>... CD-ROMs Made EASI (sm)

JW>___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

JW>--- Maximus 2.01wb
JW> * Origin: Gateway to Hell (1:141/1130)

I'm interested.. and I can pay that price too.. just.. one question.  Will it
work with a SB-16, I want to hook it up, and have it come out my amp that will
be connected to my SB-16.  Then be able to play normal CD's out the amp with
the cd-rom drive....
___
 X SLMR 2.1a X BARIUM: What you do when somebody dies

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From: DENNIS HENDERSON                       Number: 9142
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/24/93  6:22a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES VOLUME II               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>Whoa 'Hoss', perhaps my comment is out of perspective here... the comment
LN>was in reference to *MYSELF* who is 37 and how good could *I* be--If you c
LN>locate the original 'Un-hacked' message, you can clearly see I was making
LN>jestful comment against *ME* and not the general populous of women.
LN>
LN>Egads...... and BTW, I bet you wife is beautiful, and I applaud you coming
LN>forward but don't tease me about something I CAN'T HAVE <big grin>
LN>
LN>Friends ?

Sorry, must have gotten in on the tail end of a thread there...thought
you were putting down "older" women and couldn't pass up the opportunity
to defend my generation.  Didn't mean to offend, just wanted to make a
point.  Friends?  Of course!

Happy Holidays,
Dennis

 * Stolen Tagline -> * Eyeing little girls with bad intent, eh.


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From: KEITH LOONEY                           Number: 9143
  To: RICK SHELTON                             Date: 12/24/93  9:49a
Subj: busty babe                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How much are you asking? Leave me your phone number with the amount
you want. I've been looking for the original version.

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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 9144
  To: JEFF WEISS                               Date: 12/24/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: Pro Audio Spectrum 1                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I just "piggybacked" a 50 pin SCSI connector on the ribbon cable for PAS16. It
works fine with my Syquest removable media SCSI drive.

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From: KIRK REEVES                            Number: 9145
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/23/93 11:05p
Subj: Black/White                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone knows any CD that has a lot of black\white\oriental intereacial
sex.  I am fascinated by the different color range humanity comes in and am
looking for the widest possible selection.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9146
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/24/93  1:07a
Subj: "SOFT" ADULT CD-ROMS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 December 1993        SOFTCORE ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST   Last update: 12/24
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
 Amateur Models................34.00    Girls of Risque (New!)........35.00
 American Girls (New!).........34.00    High Volume Nudes.............36.50
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......29.00    L.A. Strippers (Movie)........49.00
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......48.00    Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00
 Digital Dreams 1..............28.00    Photo Gallery.................34.00
 Digital Dreams 2 (New!).......29.00    Southern Beauties.............33.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Girls of Mardi Gras (New!)....43.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * I'm leaving my body to science fiction...

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9147
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/24/93  1:08a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICES pt 1                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 December 1993           DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST      Last update: 12/24
 **************************************************************************
                                   1 of 3
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities................13.00    Microsoft Bookshelf 1992 MPC..35.00
 20th Century Sports (New!)....29.00    Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..49.00
 20th Century Video Almanac....29.00    Microsoft Cinemania 1993 MPC..55.00
 7th Guest.....................39.00    Microsoft Cinemania 1994 MPC..59.00
 9-Digit Zip Code Guide (New!).32.00    Microsoft Golf MPC............48.50
 9000 Sounds (New!)............25.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........49.00
 A.S.P. Shareware (New!).......22.00    Middle East Diary.............35.00
 Action Traveler (New!)........29.00    MIDI Music Shop...............26.50
 Adventures in Heaven (New!)...19.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...25.00    Monarch Notes.................48.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........35.00    Monster Media 93 vol 2........29.00
 American Business Phonebk 91..17.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 American Business Phonebk 93..25.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Aminet Amiga..................15.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....18.00
 Anecdotes 1...................14.50    Multimedia Magic Collection...28.00
 Anecdotes 2...................14.50    National Geographic Mammals...24.00
 Anecdotes 3...................14.50    National Parks................24.50
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......19.00    Nature Graphics (New!)........29.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....22.00    Newsweek Interactive (New!)...26.50
 Arizona Images................25.00    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Audubon's Birds...............23.00    Night Owl 8.0.................24.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    Night Owl 10.1................30.00
 Battle Chess..................25.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........25.00    Night Owl Games...............27.00
 Beyond the Wall of Stars......24.50    Night Owl Graphics............27.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl Windows (New!)......27.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    North American Fax Book.......32.50
 Britannica Family Choice......28.50    Oceans Below (New!)...........27.50
 Britannica Select Software....28.50    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Business Assistant............13.00    OS/2Box.......................25.00
 Business Master...............20.00    Otherware (Mac/Amiga S/W).....25.00
 C User's Group Library........29.00    Our Solar System..............13.00
 Canadian Shareware............19.00    PC Karaoke w/ Microphone......65.00
 Career Opportunities..........26.00    PC Paramedic (New!)...........25.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....27.00
 CD Powerbox ($6 w/ any order).15.00    PC-SIG 12.....................19.00
 CD Powerbox 2 (New..All 93!)..29.00    PC-SIG Windows................19.00
 CD Winbox 1.01................24.00    Pentomino.....................23.00
 CD-ROM of CD-ROMs ($9 w/ ord).29.00    Peter and the Wolf............25.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Phoenix 4.0...................18.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Phoenix Phun & Games..........15.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phonedisc USA.................69.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Pier 2........................24.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 3 (In Stock!)............29.00
 Clipart Heaven................25.00    Pier 2/3 2-Pak................49.00
 Clipart Warehouse (New!)......13.00    Pinacotheca Multimedia........24.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00    Pixel Garden..................34.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Companion for Windows (New!)..19.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Companion for WordPerfect.....19.00    Playing w/ Language: English..24.50
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    Playing w/ Language: French...24.50
 Composer Quest................33.00    Playing w/ Language: German...24.50
 Compton's Interactive Ency....89.00    Playing w/ Language: Japanese.24.50
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....64.00    Playing w/ Language: Spanish..24.50
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....64.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0.............13.00
 Computer Reference Library....13.00    Precision Mapping.............68.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9148
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/24/93  1:08a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICES pt 2                      Refer: NONE
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 Conan the Cimmerian...........27.50    Prescription Drugs............27.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....34.50    Profiles of Colleges..........29.50
 Cookbook Heaven...............23.00    Project Gutenberg.............22.00
 CorelDraw 3.0.................69.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak 4th Qtr..109.00
 Cybergenic Ranger.............19.50    ProPhone 1993 Business........29.00
 Dagger of Amon Ra.............32.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Publish-It 2.0................25.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........35.00
 Dare, Bluff, or Die (New!)....29.00    Publisher's Paradise..........29.00
 Day of the Tentacle...........44.50    Publisher's Paradise Pro......35.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Publisher's Powerhouse (New!).29.00
 Desert Storm..................33.50    Q&A 4.0.......................39.00
 Desktop Bookshop..............21.50    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Rebel Assault (New!)..........49.00
 Dictionary of Living World....32.50    Reel Clips....................25.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............33.00    Reference Library ............24.50
 Dinosaurs!....................33.00    Return to Zork (New!).........50.00
 Dr. Games.....................20.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...37.00
 Dr. Music.....................20.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
 Dr. Shareware.................20.00    Scrabble Deluxe (New!)........34.00
 Dr. Windows...................20.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
 DTPro.........................26.50    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
 Dune..........................39.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Ecoquest......................27.50    Shareware 1993 vol 2..........20.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......49.00
 Electronic Cookbook...........29.00    Shareware Online 1............19.00
 Electronic Home Library.......29.00    Shareware Online 2............29.00
 Electronic Library of Art.....39.50    Shareware Overload............13.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Shareware Studio 2............23.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.00    Shareware Studio 3............25.00
 European Monarchs.............35.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Family Doctor.................26.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.00
 Firearms Reference............24.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...49.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    Sights & Sounds...............22.50
 Font Master 2.................24.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    Sleeping Beauty...............25.00
 Fractunes.....................30.00    So Much Screenware............27.50
 Fresh Arte....................34.00    So Much Shareware 2...........19.00
 Funny.........................33.00    So Much Shareware 3...........25.00
 Game Arena....................13.00    So Much Space (New!)..........24.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Software Vault 1..............19.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Software Vault 2..............19.00
 Games Collection (90% 1993!)..26.00    Software Vault Gold...........25.00
 Gameware Collection...........24.00    Solar Heaven (New!)...........23.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.00    Sound Effects Library.........19.00
 Gardening (New!)..............13.00    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 GIF Galaxy (New!).............24.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 GIF's Galore 9/93.............16.50    Soundware Collection..........24.00
 Giga Games....................19.50    SoundWAV......................25.00
 Global Explorer...............85.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Space & Astronomy (New!)......27.00
 Grammy Awards.................34.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Space Quest IV................19.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Space Shuttle (New!)..........25.00
 Great Wonders of the World....42.00    Space Time and Art (New!).....34.50
 Grolier's MPC Ency 6.0 (New!).45.00    Star Trek Collectibles........59.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...23.00    Stellar 7.....................19.50

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9149
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/24/93  1:08a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICES pt 3                      Refer: NONE
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 Guinness Disc of Records 93...29.00    Straight from Heaven (New!)...19.00
 Guy Spy.......................29.50    Street Atlas USA v2...........94.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............29.00    STW Illustrated Encyclopedia..34.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    STW Multimedia Encyclopedia...44.00
 Ham Radio/Scanner Companion...23.50    STW MPC Encyclopedia..........44.00
 Hamware 1993..................23.00    Super Games For Windows.......10.00
 Health & Medical Directory....27.50    Talking Jungle Safari.........33.00
 Hobbes OS/2 10/93.............16.00    Tech Arsenal..................21.50
 Hollywood the Bizarre (New!)..39.50    Technotools...................13.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..19.00
 Home Designer (New!)..........29.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......35.00
 Home/Office Legal Guide.......13.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Horror & Sci-Fi Films (New!)..39.50    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 House of Games................18.50    Timetable of Business/Politic.26.00
 Images of NASA (New!).........25.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Total Baseball 1992...........24.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Total Baseball 1993...........28.00
 Interactive Story Time 3......29.00    Total Heart by Mayo Clinic....49.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Trump Castle..................28.00
 Int'l Graphics Library........27.50    U.S./World Atlas MPC..........25.00
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....29.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................23.00
 Jets & Props..................28.50    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Jewel Cases....................1.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 Jokes & Pranks................13.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Wars: Civil War..........34.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............39.00    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 King's Quest V................20.00    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............34.00
 King's Quest VI (Retail Box)..39.00    U.S. Wars: WWII...............34.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    USA Today: The 90's (New!)....36.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........19.00    VGA Spectrum 1................13.00
 La Coleccion (Spanish S/W)....19.50    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 Lan Master....................25.00    Video Movie Guide (New!)......28.50
 Languages of the World........37.00    Virtual Reality Starter Kit...49.00
 Learning Adventure............13.00    Wave Pool (New!)..............19.00
 Learning Heaven...............19.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Leisure Suit Larry 6 (New!)...49.50    Wildcat Gold..................20.50
 Library of the Future #1......39.00    Win Platinum..................24.00
 Libris Britannia..............34.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Linux.........................27.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 Loom..........................19.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Mac Multimedia Space..........29.00    Windows Collection (New!).....26.00
 Mac Shareware.................19.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........29.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Macromind Action..............35.00    World Atlas MPC ..............23.00
 Mad Dog McCree (New!).........39.00    World Fact Book M/M...........23.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    World of Flight...............34.00
 Majestic Places...............38.50    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mantis........................24.00    World Traveler................13.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..25.00    World View....................24.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World Vision 3-Pak............39.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............26.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00
 Mega Clipart..................24.50    X11R5/GNU.....................24.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 9150
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/21/93  7:07p
Subj: FLAME XXX ADULT CD  S                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Fisting              25         3.7   If you have to ask... KD>> Wet
>     116        13.5   Urination and what not

>These directories alone can be challenged under the "RICO" act--which is
>obscenity.

 Nope - RICO isn't obscenity law. Wrong act, not wrong idea though.

 Actually, RICO IS an obscenity, but that's a different matter....

>If you didn't know the FBI monitors this echo

 And are watching Tony's case VERY closely, I bet - and a lot of them are
likely cussing the OK City police and DA offices for messing up so badly.

 8-)


 * SLMR 2.1a * There is no such thing as an idle rumour. ALWAYS busy!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 9151
  To: JIM KEULER                               Date: 12/21/93  7:10p
Subj: FROBIDDEN SUBJECTS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I'm looking for the CD-Rom Forbidden Subjects. Anyone know where I can get a
>copy of It?

 Profit Press - check PC Mag (not TOO recent) for their ads.

 I can dig the number up if you can't find it faster any other way....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Joy to the world!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 9152
  To: CHARLIE JARMAN                           Date: 12/22/93  1:41p
Subj: DR. LINE OF CD'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>        I am offering the DR. line of CD's at a GREAT price! These are
>        ** version 2 **, the NEW ones juts pressed a week or two ago.

 By somebody OTHER than the original Dr. series publisher, Aces Research.

 I suspect there might be litigation in the future for "Accurate Research",
unless they managed to license the names....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Windows: First choice of Moe, Larry and Curly

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 9153
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 12/22/93  1:52p
Subj: BUSTY BABES VOL II -                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Perhaps there is an "OLD LADY GOSSIP ECHO" available for you to post these

 Odd, Lee manages to keep the personal insults out of her postings....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 9154
  To: JEAN-LOUIS BONTRONT                      Date: 12/22/93  2:59p
Subj: ASIMOV CD                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Is there any such thing as a "Complete Asimov" CD collection of his sci-fi
>writings?

 Not yet. The closest thing I've seen to that (so far) is the "Hugo and Nebula
Anthology 1993" disc by Clarinet, which appears to be targeting the replacement
of the "Hugo Winners" anthologies the last Dr. Asimov edited....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 9155
  To: JEAN-LOUIS BONTRONT                      Date: 12/22/93  3:00p
Subj: ASIMOV CD                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Is there any such thing as a "Complete Asimov" CD collection of his sci-fi
>writings?

 Almost forgot - I'm not 100% certain his COMPLETE works will fit on a single
CD-ROM, though if you limit to just the fiction it all SHOULD fit....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Warning! Moderator IS armed and DOES shoot back!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 9156
  To: RON MITCHELL                             Date: 12/22/93  3:10p
Subj: CD ROM DRIVE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I bought an 8-bit 600ms Mitsumi in May.  It will read exactly three discs, and
>those with a lot of errors.  I bought a 16-bit 350ms Mitsumi in October.  It
>will read every disc I have.  The 8-bit machine will not read Night Owl 7 or
>either Shareware Studio vol 1 or 2.  The 8-bit will not read PC-SIG 12.  The
>16-bit will.

 You have a faulty LU002 then. My LU002 (bought new almost 2 years ago) has
read everything I've thrown at it to date, including Night Owl 10 and PC-SIG
12. Yours may need some alignment work or cleaning....

>My problems with Mitsumi are true.  I'm out $199 for a drive that won't read
my
>CDs.  The vendor I bought it from says that they've never had a problem.

 Take your drive back to the vendor and DEMAND a refund or exchange, if it's
still under warrenttee. ANYONE can make a bad drive - I've had examples of new
TEAC drives that didn't work, doesn't mean the drive MODEL is bad (I've never
seen a bad Micropolis, though!)....

>When
>I tell them that I've got one and want to bring the drive in so they can hook
>it up and check it out, theu say they don't have any systems with which to do
>so.

 Take it up with your local Better Business Bureau, and also talk to your local
District Attorney about "lemon law(s)" in your state, if any.

>I just wish Mitsumi would be more discriminating in who they
>allow to market their drives

 When certain major distributors get involved, the manufacturer LOSES control
of who is going to sell their stuff.

>and pay more attention to customer service.

 That much WOULD be nice....


 * SLMR 2.1a * I used to be Sane, but I got better....

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From: GLEN YEAGER                            Number: 9157
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/24/93  2:52a
Subj: cd wanted                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Wanted....

         I'm looking for a DOS based Text only Encylopida CD
         
Glen Yeager

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From: BRIAN DHATT                            Number: 9158
  To: TIM SHEEHAN                              Date: 12/23/93  2:02p
Subj: OS/2 CD wanted                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

20 Dec 93 15:16, Tim Sheehan wrote to JD Brown:

 TS> What about the "for windows" version, do you have that? I would
 TS> prefer that.

If he can't provide it, try 1-800-EGGHEAD or 1-800-COMP-USA.

Brian

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 9159
  To: ROB CORKUM                               Date: 12/23/93  5:52p
Subj: Busty Babes II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Could you please send me your latest catalog?  Or give info on
-> freq'ing it.

Hi Rob!
   You can file request it as CDROMS!.ZIP, but I'll send it out to you
direct, tonight.
   Thanks,
   Vince
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From: PAUL SMITH                             Number: 9160
  To: ZACHARY HAMM                             Date: 12/19/93  7:34p
Subj: Re: STUFF FOR SALE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In his last message, Zachary Hamm said:
****************************************
***
***486DX-33Mhz VESA Local Bus MB with 256K cache,
***3 VLB slots, 5 16-bit slots.  Upgradable to
***66Mhz or Pentium.                                        
***$395.00 
***
****************************************
Hi Zachary  --

        Does this board include any RAM?  I assume that it does since 
brand new boards with these specs sell for just about the same price 
you're asking.  The CPU is Intel - right?  

                                        Thanks  --  Paul
*
... Exercise daily.  Eat wisely.  Die anyway.    SMOKE & DIE SOONER!
---
 TTYL  --  *aul 
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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 9161
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 12/24/93 11:13a
Subj: Re: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New Release    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <12-21-93 17:32> Mark Walker wrote:

MW>> DV>> In a message to Mark Walker <19 Dec 93  21:38> David
MW>> DV>> Vangelder wrote:

MW>> DV>> Mark, the per node licensing fee is $25.00.  The same fee
MW>> DV>> is appplicable to each node.

DV>> The photographers were not willing to allow their images
DV>> to be distributed without compensation.  We came up with
DV>> $25.00 per node, which we felt was very reasonable as it
DV>> represents less than one subscription fee (Generally
DV>> speaking; many sysops charge $50.00 and more as you know).
DV>> If a sysop has more than one node, then he must have the
DV>> subscriber base to support those additional nodes.
DV>> The licensing fee would still represent less than one
DV>> subscription fee.

MW>> DV>> Please let me know if you agree that this is a nominal fee.

MW>> Well it depends...considering that there is at least one other
MW>> supplier of quality scans and they are not charging a per node
MW>> fee and you are, it could put your disk out of the market for
MW>> BBS use. On the other hand if the disk is far superior (in the
MW>> eyes of the purchaser) to anything on the market they may not
MW>> consider it unreasonable. Sitting in my shoes as a BBS operator
MW>> and computer sales consultant, I think unless the whole market
MW>> goes that way (which I hope they don't) I will pass on the disk.
MW>> I really hate to, as I REALLY like looking at beautiful women.

Mark, I appreciate your reply and giving me your opinion.  It is
not for me to say that our disc "BODACIOUS BEAUTIES" will be a far
superior disc. You and the buying public will have to make that
decision after it is released.  If you read my post announcing the
disc (with the statistics included) you will see that it is packed
FULL of over 2,000 commercial copyrighted images scanned from 35mm
slides.  I believe, if the disc is not worth a Sysop paying $25.00
per node (as I indicated in my last post, less than ONE SUBSCRIPTION
fee) to put ANY adult CD on line, then the disc is probably not worth
purchasing in the first place. I agree with the photographers, who
don't see anything wrong with the Sysop paying some royalty or
licensing fee for the ability to sell/distribute images to which
he/she does not have the rights. But...Perhaps the photographers and
I are wrong, that is of course ONLY our opinion.  
 
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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 9162
  To: DOUG HUNKELE                             Date: 12/24/93 11:14a
Subj: Re: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New Release    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <12-18-93 07:13> Doug Hunkele wrote:

DH>> * Overheard by  All, David Vangelder Mumbled...:
DH>> DV >>  ******************* FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!!
DH>> DV >>  ****** FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS
DH>> DV >>  **************** RATES AVAILBALE UPON REQUEST

DH>> So what is the NOMINAL FEE.............


Doug, the per node licensing fee is $25.00.  The same fee is
appplicable to each node.

The photographers were not willing to allow their images to be
distributed without compensation.  We came up with $25.00 per node,
which we felt was very reasonable as it represents less than one
subscription fee (Generally speaking; many sysops charge $50.00 and
more as you know).  If a sysop has more than one node, then he must
have the subscriber base to support those additional nodes. The
licensing fee would still represent less than one subscription fee.

Please let me know if you agree that this is a nominal fee.  
 
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From: BILL HALL                              Number: 9163
  To: JIM LEONARDT                             Date: 12/23/93  8:48p
Subj: Mitsumi 2x Spin                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JLBH>Sir, I am a disabled Nam Vet and on a fixed income and run a BBS and I am
JLBH>need of a good External CD. Again I am on a fixed income and if you could
JLBH>with me for X amount per month I would very much like to order one from yo
JLBH>Data # is: 417-326-3361 the voice # is: 417-326-3361 Node # : 1:284/52....
JLBH>Thank you for your time.....Jim Leonardt
JLBH>--- FreeMail 1.08b
You must have me mixed up with someone else. I don't have one forsale.

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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 9164
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/19/93  8:54p
Subj: Where the CD???                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ok Scott it has been over 2 WEEKS now sinse we made a deal. I sent mine
the 2nd day delivery when we agreed to the deal 2 weeks ago. After reading
your post a week ago where you said you had a problem, Fine.. But then
you said you where going to get it right out 2nd day delivery.
Another weeks passed and NO CD. If there is a problem just send back my CD
or a check for 25 dollars and lets call it done!

                   Ken

Happy Holidays To All...

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From: DAVID MOLDOVAN                         Number: 9165
  To: HERB ZWIRN                               Date: 12/20/93 10:29a
Subj: For Sale!                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I thought I overheard Herb Zwirn say to David Moldovan:

 ->(1:272/54)
 
 DM>A) UltraStor UltraSCSI Kit (34F SCSI-II bus master card with drivers
 DM>                           for everything SCSI.  Supports SCSI-I,
 DM>                           SCSI-2, DOS, Windows, and OS/2)
 
 DM>  The card is brand new and still in shrink wrap.  $175 firm
 
 DM>B) Panasonic KX-T3980, 2 line, 10 channel, cordless phone.  About 10
 DM>  years old (only kidding, only about 4 months old).  Comes with
 DM>  2 year extended warranty covering almost everything.  $125 OBO
 HZ> 
 HZ> If this supports sound cards too, I'm ready.

It is a SCSI controller card for SCSI-I and SCSI-II hard disk drives.
It does not support any type of sound card.  Why would it need to?

 HZ> Anything you need that we might be able to trade?????????

Cash only!!!

 HZ> How do we make contact?

Net mail me at the address in the bottom or reply to this message if 
still interested.

                                             
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From: MICHAEL GUIDRY                         Number: 9166
  To: JEFF WEISS                               Date: 12/23/93 11:16p
Subj: Pro Audio Spectrum 1                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 21 Dec 93, Jeff Weiss stated to Michael Guidry:

Thanks for the very detailed advice.  I don't mine having a cable hanging
off the back off my tower, so I'll try rig the external scsi port myself
that way if necessary.  Will let you know if I find a bracket that looks
suitable. Now that I think of it, I have some more of those punch out
spots in the back of the case where I might be able to mount it.


JW>FREE with your trantor MiniSCSI parallel adapter!  Otherwise, any A
JW>dealer (like myself) should be able to sell you a copy for about $7
JW>

Hope you're right there. I still hasn't shown up, so I don't know what
they're going to give me with it.  Since this package is for lawyers, they
may eliminate the drivers to make it less confusing.


... User Friendly: Never having to say - "I read the manual."
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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9167
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/23/93  4:33a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-GIGO(4446) ZyX
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: *********** REFURBISHED  HITAC         Number: 9168
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/23/93  4:33a
Subj:                                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Daisy-chainable to 8 drives!
These are the long awaited refurbished drives, 1 step above Model 3500
$130.00 bare unit, 30 day warrantee, 680 meg,
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariant.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-GIGO(4446) ZyX
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOYCE ZWEEDYK                          Number: 9169
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/23/93  5:42p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD PRICES 3/3                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

*** Quoting Mike Shannon to Joyce Zweedyk dated 12-21-93 ***
> JZ>  >  Grolier's MPC Ency 6.0 (New!).45.00    Street Atlas USA
> On the whole, I think it's a nice product, but the Compton's 
> Interactive is
> still my personal favorite.



How much is the Compton's?  And do you carry it?

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 9170
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/06/93  6:34a
Subj: CD Review Magzine                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


                        CD-ROM TODAY      $11.98


Want to know the latest and greatest CD titles available for your PC?
This bi-monthly publication has it all. All the information you need to help to
decide what CD ROM to purchase or what the hottest programs are. For a one year
subscription, send a check or money order to:

                               C.S.S.
                         1526 Ramblewood Ct.
                          Adrian, MI 49221


For our complete selection of over magazine titles, Freq CSS_MAGS from
1:2470/11 or 1:2470/16.

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From: WESLEY CHEW                            Number: 9171
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/24/93  3:00a
Subj: MEDIAVISION FUSION16                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MediaVision Fusion16 MPC Upgrade Kit for Sale
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

The following items are bundle with the upgrade kit :-

1. Sony CD-31A (Kodak CD compatible, built in tray).
2. MediaVision Pro-Audio 16 sound board.

Used only for 1.5 months. With original (unmailed) warranty card.
I will bundle with the following CD-ROM :-

1. Campton's Interactive Encyclopedia (MPC Microsoft Window 3.1 version)
2. Deep River's Adventure (Microsoft Window 3.1 compatible)
3. Interplay's Battle Chess (MPC Window 3.1 compatible)
4. Virgin's 7th Guest (DOS version)

The price? Very reasonable! $300 (software alone cost more than $200!)
Anyone want to swap my Corel Draw 3.0 ?  I can be contacted at
Phone : (405) 359-1259   Internet : wesley.chew@oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu
        
Wes
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From: DOUG HUNKELE                           Number: 9172
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 12/23/93  1:32p
Subj: Cd rom drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the reply jerry, i think the bottom line on the HOBBES disc was
that it is possible that the disc was off-set in printing..to make a long
story short i'm swapping it for another and trying again....wish me luck.

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From: SCOTT PARKS                            Number: 9173
  To: DALE CARTER                              Date: 12/21/93  4:46p
Subj: Amateur Models trade                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

19 Dec 93, Dale Carter writes to Troy Johnson:

 DC> Troy I dont have any to trade but I am looking for some inexpensive
 DC> adult software, its hard to find.

And you should pay thru the nose for your bad-habits.  There should be
a SIN tax on top of it  :)


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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 9174
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/24/93  4:17p
Subj: Merry Xmas                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Lee,
Have a Merry Xmas and Happy New, now if you are Jewish then happy Haunaka.
spelled correct I hope. :-)

                               Mike Harris

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 9175
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/25/93  4:59a
Subj: BBS disc's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <23 Dec 93  07:50:03>, Lee Noga (1:3618/23) writes:

 >Well, whoever you are referring to, you can believe that Lions Den will 
 >*NEVER* charge a node fee, and the charging of a node fee, is not the way 
 >the industry is going.
Isn't that a coincidence I was talking about FLD. BTW is your new disc still 
on schedule for Jan 15 release?
 

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 9176
  To: JAMES PARKER                             Date: 12/24/93  9:59a
Subj: ADULT CD ROMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Is there anything to these?

   Chacun son gout - to each their own.   :)

   Vince
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From: SCOTT BRIGADE                          Number: 9177
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 12/24/93 10:56p
Subj: Cdrom disc prices12/17/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->         GIGA Games                 $18.50

Richard, could you please give me the release date of this cdrom?  And
do you have any other Game shareware cdroms besides giga or other
shareware cdroms such as Night Owls?  Im very interested in the Giga,
but I think its been out for quite awhile now hasnt it, will there be
another release?


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From: JERRY CORNELIUS                        Number: 9178
  To: JAMES PARKER                             Date: 12/24/93 11:35a
Subj: Adult CD Roms                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JP>Is there anything to these?  I mean, isn't it cheaper and more
JP>practical to just buy a copy of Hustler, or rent a XXX Video?  The
JP>pictures and sound is better than what you'd get on a computer.  Is
JP>there something I'm missing?  I've never seen one, so maybe I am..

A CDROMs strongest point is its ability to store large quantities of
data in a small space.  If you have a disc which contains 3000 full
color photographic images, that disc takes up much less space than the
same amount of paper.  Furthermore, when considering magazines remember
that most of the magazine isn't images.

Convenience and storage aside, one disc at, say $69 will cost much less
than the same number of images from hundreds of magazines at (what?) $5
each?

With a good SVGA monitor, I believe the images I recover from CDROM are
comparable to those in magazines.  Other advantages of this display
method are that many images may be made to be the same size as your
monitor, zoom, slideshow and the enviroment is spared the paper use.

 JP><grin>  Now, if they were REALLY interactive..... Hmmm

All of what I've said applies to still storage.  I agree with you that
when it comes to animation and "interactivity" that things seem silly.
Renting a movie for $3 would seem to allow for variety, resolution,
sound, etc, and the viewer still retains control over speed, repeating a
scene, and so forth.  I should note, though, that my experience with
animation is limited to .GL and I've never seen an "interactive" title.

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From: JERRY CORNELIUS                        Number: 9179
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 12/24/93 11:44a
Subj: Adult CDROM                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MW>that the model "might have been under 18". Doesn't sound
MW>right to me...what ever happened to reasonable doubt?

Whoops, you must be thinking of the old United States.  Those
constitutional rights have been steadily eroding away.

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9180
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/25/93  6:29a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: *********** REFURBISHED  HITAC         Number: 9181
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/25/93  6:29a
Subj:                                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Daisy-chainable to 8 drives!
These are the long awaited refurbished drives, 1 step above Model 3500
$130.00 bare unit, 30 day warrantee, 680 meg,
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariant.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-GIGO(4446) ZyX
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: GARY KIMBRELL                          Number: 9182
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/25/93  5:22a
Subj: After X-MAS Specials                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

>  STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892

What about the package deals? Got a After X-MAS special? COuld use a couple
more
CD's & caddies. WHat would be the price for the FAO set? 

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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 9183
  To: CHRISTIAN HEDEMARK                       Date: 12/25/93 12:36a
Subj: Re: CD Disks for Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Christian Hedemark to Eddie Phillips <=-

 CH> *** Quoting Eddie Phillips to Al Kaiser about Re: CD Disks for Sal


 EP>  AK> I have the following CD Disks for sale:
 EP>
 EP>  AK> Enhanced Battle Chess     (Interesting Tutorial)
 EP>  AK> Space Quest IV
 EP>  AK> Arthur's Teacher Trouble
 EP>
 EP> I'd like to offer $40 delivered for the 3 CD's above and I'll prepay.  Let
 EP> know....my number's in the tagline.
 EP>
 EP> ... Voice: 919-870-6926 (eves/weekends)
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^

 EP> ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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 EP> --- QScan v1.02b
 EP>   ! Origin: Southern Pride BBS  5gig PcBoard  772-4143  772-4183
(1:151/151)
 CH>                                               ^^^^^^^^  ^^^^^^^^

 CH> Yeah, your number is there.  But not your area code <smirk>

It is if you'd look at the right number.
 
... If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving isn't for you
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From: STEVE KRAISLER                         Number: 9184
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/25/93  1:11p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well, I've finished 7th Guest and rather than let it sit on the shelf
and gather dust I'm looking to give it a new home.  If you would like to
adopt a lonely cd-rom just come up with 30 bucks.  Included is two
manuals and for 3 bucks more I'll throw in a disk with hints and a
walkthru.  First loving home gets it.

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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 9185
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 12/25/93  2:36p
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New Release        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DV>> The photographers were not willing to allow their images
 DV>> to be distributed without compensation.  We came up with
 DV>> $25.00 per node, which we felt was very reasonable as it
 DV>> represents less than one subscription fee (Generally
 DV>> speaking; many sysops charge $50.00 and more as you know).
 DV>> If a sysop has more than one node, then he must have the
 DV>> subscriber base to support those additional nodes.
 DV>> The licensing fee would still represent less than one
 DV>> subscription fee.
 DV>> Please let me know if you agree that this is a nominal fee.

 Absolutely unreasonable and ridiculous.  I am keeping it in my
 pants (money) regarding this CD, you can make book on that!
 Just for your information there are also MANY low/no cost access
 BBS's throughout the country.  You have NO idea what each SysOp
 charges for access to their BBS, so your statement re: "Generally
 speaking; many sysops charge $50.00 and more as you know", is with-
 out validation and represents a Very Poor assessment (guess) on
 your part.
 
 You are already assessing a fee for the purchase of the CD, out of
 that pot; there should be something for the photographers, some for
 yourself and some for the CD mfg.  And, now you want to extract an
 additional fee from me.  Why not price the CD at $50.00 if thats
 what you need to make some money from it?  I see by prices posted
 by other dealers in this echo (basis for my validation on this topic),
 that most adult CDs range in price from $29.00 to $50.00 (the hi end
 are movies), so you come in here *LOW BALLING* all competition and
 then try to screw the buying public.  No one in his/her right mind is
 willing to pay $50.00 for still images and you know it.  Well looks
 like you got caught even before you got to the starting blocks.

 I would like to suggest that you read the sales ads in this conference
 to give yourself (an education) an idea of what is going on in the
 market place.  If the product you are selling is as good as you claim,
 it will sell itself, providing you market and price it appropriately.

 Please don't come in here with your guns blazing, you asked an
 open question in this public forum therefore, standby for the
 responses.  As you can see you have already heard from me.
 
 Thanks for the info about what type of support we can expect
 from you, Merry Xmas too.

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 9186
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 12/24/93 10:35a
Subj: Adult CD trade wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I already have amatuer models.  Do you have any others for MP Collection?
 
Scott

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 9187
  To: ANTHONY FURGISON                         Date: 12/24/93 10:30a
Subj: Hitachi cdroms                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Yeah, can you get in touch with him and let me know what he wants for them.
 
thanks
Scott

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 9188
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/24/93 10:30a
Subj: cdrom of cdroms                         Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Yeah, I did and to no avail....
 
Scott

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 9189
  To: JOHN VAN HARE                            Date: 12/24/93 10:31a
Subj: amatuer models                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

It is only 2 months old, and used twice, no scratches on anything, looks brand
new.  It has about 3500 gifs and 24 bit tiffs on it of amatuer models from R
to X, no XXX graphics or anything.
 
Let me know.
 
$33 shipped via 2 day priority mail.
 
Scott

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From: FREDERICK A. BURGESS                   Number: 9190
  To: RICHARD JOHNSON                          Date: 12/24/93  6:33p
Subj: CD Rom Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Richard Johnson to Pat Rickerson dated 12-23-93 ***
> I HAVE NOT GOT THE CD ROM DRIVE AT ALL IF I DO I WILL SEND IT BACK TO
> YOU IN THE MAIL. I DO NOT HAVE ANY MORE ROOM FOR A CD ROM DRIVE IN MY
> COMPTER TO PUT IT IN THERE.
> 
> *!* GOMail v1.2 [92-0047]

Hey, there ... You want to quit yelling?  I think that there are more than just
one Richard Johnson in here.  I know that there is one in Ohio.


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From: LAWRENCE MINTZ                         Number: 9191
  To: SCOTT BRIGADE                            Date: 12/25/93  5:58a
Subj: Night owl 10.1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >->                      N I G H T  O W L  10.1

 > What are the differences between 10 and 10.1?

Two files with viruses detected in them in 10 have been removed from the disk
in 10.1.

Larry

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From: BOB KOSIN                              Number: 9192
  To: JASON BURKHART                           Date: 12/24/93  9:30p
Subj: Cd-rom Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well I'm not sure I have what your looking for, but I have a magnavox CDD 461
external...not sure 'bout the transfer rate but it has a av of 450 access
time...It's just laying around so if your interested I'd like to get it off my
desktop <It's about 5 months old...don't use it much>
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From: BOB KOSIN                              Number: 9193
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 12/24/93  9:40p
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jeff would you by eny chance consider trading your drive? I just bought a
Magnavox CDD 461 external and was surprized to find out
it did'nt run under os/2 <Maybe I should'nt have waited 1 month
to hook it up> I have the cable and card...If interested let me
know...oh it has 450 ms avg access time and 153 avg transfer rate. 
               
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From: MICHAEL MURPHY                         Number: 9194
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 12/24/93 10:53a
Subj: SOFTWARE & CD'S 4 SALE!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (19 Dec 93) Max Green wrote to Michael Murphy...

 MG>         Will offer $15.oo + $2.oo shipping = Total $17.oo for Red
 MG> Baron
 MG>         as described above.  If YOU are INTRESTED in selling same,
 MG> call
 MG>         504/392-7059, or post netmail to my attention.
 MG> 

Only one problem: It cost about $60 when I got it, and it's still pretty 
new.  Make it $25.oo + $2.oo = My offer.  Yes, I'm very interested in selling
it, but not giving it away.  If still interested... well, you know where to
find me :)
Michael

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From: CASEY ROMANSKI                         Number: 9195
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/25/93  8:17a
Subj: SPECIALS FOR X-MAS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

--> Casey Romanski Quotes a message written by Brice Fleckenstein
--> to Robert Moore on 12-21-93 14:25 saying:
BF> >When you say a CD ROM drive is 'AT Bus', does this mean the s
BF> it
BF> >means for Hard Drives?  In other words 'AT Bus CD ROM' equals
BF> into
BF> >IDE paddle board card'?
BF> 
BF>  NO.
BF> 
BF>  There is no such thing as an "IDE interface" CD-ROM drive. To
BF> ONLY
BF> things that attach to an IDE paddle card are IDE hard drives a
BF> few
BF> models of tape drives.
BF> 
BF> 
Hmmmmmmm. Then why does my CD Drive operate with a IDE cable?
BF> (1:231/190)
BF> 

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From: STEVE O'BRIEN                          Number: 9196
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/24/93  2:48p
Subj: WANTED MPCollection I n/or II           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TO ALL
 
LOOKING FOR:
******* My Private Collection Volumes I and or II *********
If you have this item for sale for a reasonible price CALL:
215/533-3190 and ask for Steve OR
Leave E-mail!!

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From: JOHN RUIZ                              Number: 9197
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 12/24/93 11:10a
Subj: Games For Sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

This message was from JOHN RUIZ to ALL
originally in conference  on BW!MAIL (The Boardwalk!)
and was forwarded to you by JOHN RUIZ
                    ----------------------------------------
            FOR SALE: DOS GAME  New and Used
                Lemmings                           $10.00
                Oh No! More Lemmings  never open.  $15.00
                Red Baron  never open.             $20.00
                Leisure Suit Larry 5  never open.  $20.00
                Sim City with Ancient/Future City  $30.00
                Indianapolis 500                   $10.00
                Make Offer  Will Sell All $75.00 you pay postage.

                John Ruiz 206-226-2018 Renton Washington


 * QMPro 1.51 * I Rather Be Shopping at "GROUPWARE" Tacoma Wa

 * QMPro 1.51 * I Rather Be Shopping at "GROUPWARE" Tacoma Wa
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From: DANNY TSENG                            Number: 9198
  To: JOE PYE                                  Date: 12/25/93  5:19a
Subj: OS/2 CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JP> The Hobbs OS/2 CDRom was just released in October of 
 JP> this year.  Have it here
 JP> on my bbs, very easy to install, and full of stuff.
        Does it have many stuff for OS/2 2.1? or just lots of PD for OS/1.x and
2.0?

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From: TAB TRESS                              Number: 9199
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/25/93  1:57a
Subj: Busty Babes Volume I  Version I         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking to sell or trade an unopened Busty Babes Volume I  Version I CD-ROM w/
BAM BAM logo on back cover.  Leave a message on this net.  This collectors
edition is in mint condition.  Hope you've had a very merry Xmas.

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From: JOHN CALLICRATE                        Number: 9200
  To: TONY MANN                                Date: 12/25/93  6:23p
Subj: Drivers                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you can't get the drivers you want, I have for sale:

- EZ-SCSI version 1.0 (5 1/4" disk) with Manual
  (both originals) - $25.00

or

- EZ-SCSI version 2.03 (5 1/4" disk) NO manual!
  (disk is original) - $35.00

EZ-SCSI is software for Adaptec SCSI controllers,
it has drivers for many CDROMS and other devices.


I am interested in trades for the above, such as
CDROMS with text materials.



 * MegaMail 2.10 #0:     P.O. Box 6, Dallas, OR  503/623-4924


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From: BILL HUGHEY                            Number: 9201
  To: JONATHAN ROLFE                           Date: 12/25/93  9:39p
Subj: QSL                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi I saw your "QSL" are you in Amateur Radio ??? Bill...(KB8CRR)

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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 9202
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/25/93 10:29p
Subj: Custom CDROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       D i g i t a l   E n t e r p r i s e s   C u s t o m

                    C D R O M   S e r v i c e

We can transfer your programs and data from Tape, Floppy or Hard Disk
to Industry Standard CDROM, which is accessible by any ISO9660 compliant
CDROM reader.

                 1st Copy     2nd Thru 4th     5+
                ----------   --------------  ------
                 $100.00         $50.00      $45.00

 2nd through 5+ pricing reflects identical disks, or disks with MINOR changes

 We also offer a $20 discount on the first disk of each unique CD setup after
 the first.


Shipping:
---------
All orders to the 48 contiguous states are shipped via UPS ground unless
customer specifies a different mode.  Add $5 for UPS Blue label, $15 for
UPS Red label service.


Getting your data to us:
------------------------
We currently support QIC-40 and QIC-80 tape, and streaming tape drives
that use DC600/6XXXX tape.  Floppy disks are accepted, but at a premium
of $8/hr of restore time.  We can also accept hard disk as the method
of transferral.


Naming conventions:
-------------------
Filenames MUST NOT contain characters other than A-Z, 0-9 or the "_"
underscore character.  Subdirectory names must NOT have an .EXTension.

We will at your request rename non-compliant files, and flat text-based file
listings at no additional cost.

Terms:
------
Prepay for service via certified funds.  Personal checks must clear our
bank before production begins.   Please make your check or money order
payable to "Digital Enterprises".

For more information:
---------------------
Contact us by voice, or by any of the network addresses listed.

Digital Enterprises
125 S. Saginaw
St. Charles, MI 48655

Voice: 517-865-6850     Internet: Loyd.Craft@fourstar.mi.org
 Rime: ->SPS             Fidonet: 1:239/900.0

(C) 1993 Digital Enterprises

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From: MARIO LERMITTE                         Number: 9203
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/21/93 11:32p
Subj: CD ROMS WANTED!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hallo All,
Hello All,

Greetings from Belgium. Yes, Belgium. :-)

I looking for CD Roms with Bible and religious matherial on it.

Please contact me, via this board or via netmail.

Greetings,
Vriendelijke groeten,

Mario


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From: PAUL E. BUSSA                          Number: 9204
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/24/93  9:00a
Subj: CD-Rom drive forsale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
Hello all,

I have for sale a Chinon CDS-431 CD-Rom drive Specs are as follows.

Data readout                    150Kbyte/sec
Interface                       SCSI
access time                     350ms average
MTBF                            25,000 P.O.H.

This drive includes 1 cartridge,controller card and cable. Drive is guarenteed
against DOA. 

I am asking 175.00. If interested you can reach me here in this echo or by
voice at (616)895-7698

                                  Thanx

                               Paul E. Bussa

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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 9205
  To: JAY TAYLOR                               Date: 12/24/93 10:56a
Subj: Re: Battle Chess Enh                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 I have Battle Chess Enhanced that I would sell you for $25.  Let me
 know if you still want it.

 I'll take it if it's available. Where do I send a check?
                    Mike




... "42? 7 and a half million years and all you can come up with is 42?!"
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From: DICK WALSH                             Number: 9206
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/13/93  6:43a
Subj: RE: SHAREWARE STUDIO III                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You will    I am interested in Deep Throat and Debbie does Dallas on CD Rom.  
Do I have to prove that I am over 21 <GRIN>

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From: WC HILL                                Number: 9207
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/13/93  9:12p
Subj: CD STORAGE BOXES WANT                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Brice,


 >  I should have a batch of Jewel Cases at the Computer Show this 
 > Sunday in
 > Toledo - it runs from 10AM to 4 PM at the Holiday Inn 1 block south 

I made it to the show and did purchase some cases. I don't know if I got them
from you but there was only one vendor that had any left when I got there at
2:00 so I was lucky enough to get what I went there to purchase. Only problem
was I also brought home a bag of "gotta haves" I didn't intend on purchasing   
 :*)  (Maybe I can say Santa came early, whatta think?)

 later....

 bill

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From: RICKY PURCELL                          Number: 9208
  To: BRYANT PARK                              Date: 12/14/93  9:50a
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI - $25                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Why are you selling it?  Would you take $20 for it?  Do you have the box and
instructions still?  Thanks: Rick

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From: RICKY PURCELL                          Number: 9209
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 12/14/93  9:58a
Subj: CDROMS WANTED (GAMES)                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike:  Are still selling KQ VI for $20?  If you are let me know.  Oh buy the
way is it on CD-ROM?  
        Thanks: Rick

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From: RICKY PURCELL                          Number: 9210
  To: ROBERT MOSS                              Date: 12/14/93 10:03a
Subj: BIBLE CD'S WANTED                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Robert:
        I have the Bible Library forsale for $15 + postage if you are
interested?
        Thanks: Rick

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From: RICKY PURCELL                          Number: 9211
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93 10:10a
Subj: LOTUS 123 CDROM                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Lotus 123 for Windows with Multimedia SmartHelp (Release 1.1) for sale. 
Never used it came with my MPC pakage.  Make me and offer?
        Thanks: Rick

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From: RICKY PURCELL                          Number: 9212
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93 10:13a
Subj: MACROMIND/ACTION                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have MacroMind ACTION! (ver 1.0.1) for Windows forsale.  I never used it came
with MPC pakage.  Make me and offer?
        Thanks: Rick

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From: DICK WALSH                             Number: 9213
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/17/93  8:00a
Subj: RE: CD'S FOR SALE                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris when I talked to you last you said that I would have a catalog in
about a week   Well I have not received one as yet   Would you please send me
one     Dick Walsh  4254 Harvest Lane   Toledo, Ohio  43623-4129
  Thanks in advance  <Dick>
BTW if any other suppliers have catalogs I would appreciate there sending them
to me and putting me on their mailing list's    <Dick>

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From: JOHN VAN HARE                          Number: 9214
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/23/93  9:51p
Subj: Mitsumi Double Speeds                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

OK, the Mitsumi double speed CDROMs are down to 197.00 cash and carry at Best 
Buy, anyone can beat this?

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From: GARY SHADE                             Number: 9215
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 12/24/93  6:14p
Subj: Specials for X-MAS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to Robert Moore, Matt Bedtelyon said:
MB> -> When you say a CD ROM drive is 'AT Bus', does this mean the same thin
MB> -> means for Hard Drives?  In other words 'AT Bus CD ROM' equals 'IDE, p
MB> -> IDE paddle board card'?

MB> No unfortunately, this means that is takes a proprietery AT
MB> controller.
MB> Philips will have a new drive out in MID 94 that will plug
MB> into your IDE
MB> CARD on the newer IDE interfaces. That will be nice!
Nice if not slow compared to bus trabsfer rates of SCSI-II devices.
GS
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From: GARY SHADE                             Number: 9216
  To: VIC HLUSHAK                              Date: 12/24/93  6:31p
Subj: cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to All, Vic Hlushak said:
VH> PK   
VH> ! +oN++cAnOh$~ -^ <X4<a- +X TX<|++a?  o+  g = 
VH> :&p+E+x2obiOS++XiW<SL_X\fO?nuri+|eogu oW Wi+Q
VH> f++T++^;8a}:{X<uo_1[X>c5 [ aXa +2E=y( OZ+|Ai+M EP '[b Io o
VH> &Uo|  +eR+V +Eg^m eo$ii M!JAAqP+/UBK+c9<y1 i2.a1 +} ,k +*&
VH> #+U2OXiI-BMX+XiR.'L*hm+ ZX + 0@) XVZan+U yUe+a++g oaAE I+r
VH> ]>++&++++FRUY+[c)N>i  + $++ptX+Y8+D- .u +wa-)O2 [kT`=na6+M0oe)++X!+
VH> i+}o)g+ a% o5eu1pLnSc:++6'++LE fW|TU+++gFmo ? ++XEPh ecyB3
VH> 1P%e(oToa^++r+N0hb@lx4iX+ :(2+9i ER><=+Qf%T++++_+XU aAAU+r".
VH> ^ +b Xi+++HXz|lUX !+b+pX+oiILX  EPLrjceKA^! PK   
. 
Too much Christmas egg nog? Couldn't have said it better!
GS
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From: GARY SHADE                             Number: 9217
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 12/24/93  6:35p
Subj: Busty Babes Vol II -                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DV> TH>> Leave the moderating to me, David.

DV> I have no intention on moderating YOUR echo, but I am
DV> entitled to
DV> MY OPINION, am I not?

DV> TH>> Everything Lee said has relevance to selling CD ROMs. You're
DV> TH>> the one who's off topic!

DV> Tim, I am a bit confused, perhaps you can clear something up
DV> for
DV> me.  I have written a total of less than 10 posts on your
DV> echo.
Yawn....... Can't you take it to net?
gs
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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 9218
  To: MICHAEL MURPHY                           Date: 12/25/93  9:22p
Subj: SOFTWARE & CD'S 4 SALE!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MM>  MG>    Will offer $15.oo + $2.oo shipping = Total $17.oo for Red
 MM>  MG> Baron  as described above.  If YOU are INTRESTED in selling
 MM>  MG> same call 504/392-7059, or post netmail to my attention.
 MM> 
 MM> Only one problem: It cost about $60 when I got it, and it's still
 MM> pretty new.  Make it $25.oo + $2.oo = My offer.  Yes, I'm very
 MM> interested in selling it, but not giving it away.  If still
 MM> interested... well, you know where to find me :)
 MM>  * Origin: Michael Murphy - Euless, Texas (1:130/503.4)

   O.K. Michael your correct.  I am withdrawing my offer.  Merry Xmas.

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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 9219
  To: LARRY FOX                                Date: 12/25/93  2:40p
Subj: Wanted: CD-ROM Drive                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LF>I'm looking to add a CD-ROM drive to my BBS.  I have the following ite
LF>offer for trade:
LF>
LF>   14" Imtec VGA Multiscan monitor, rated at 800x600 but will
LF>      do 1024x768 with some controllers, .31 dot pitch, t/s base
LF>

You'll have to add some cash$$$.


 * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * Morality is not defined by individual choice.


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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 9220
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 12/25/93  2:41p
Subj: Where the CD???                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KM>Ok Scott it has been over 2 WEEKS now sinse we made a deal. I sent min
KM>the 2nd day delivery when we agreed to the deal 2 weeks ago. After rea
KM>your post a week ago where you said you had a problem, Fine.. But then
KM>you said you where going to get it right out 2nd day delivery.
KM>Another weeks passed and NO CD. If there is a problem just send back m
KM>or a check for 25 dollars and lets call it done!

Good luck!


 * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * America Held Hostage: Day 335 of the Socialist Takeover!


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From: FRED ABRAMS                            Number: 9221
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/24/93 10:22p
Subj: ULTIMA CD                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     I'm looking for the IBM CD that contains the first six Ultima games
on it.  I saw it in a Software Support catalog a few months ago, but
they no longer carry it. If anyone wants to get rid of theirs or knows
where I can get it, please reply.


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From: CHARLES STRUSZ @ 970/201               Number: 9222
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/25/93  8:58p
Subj: Custom cd-rom recording -               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@SUBJECT:Custom CD-ROM Recording - Small Quantities                  N
              LOW QUANTITY CD-ROM DUPLICATION AND PRODUCTION

    Now is the time to get your .ZIP file collection moved onto CD-ROM! We can
cut a custom CD for you overnight!  680 Meg capacity, standard CD-ROM!  This
means you can transfer all those uploads to CD-ROM and free up storage space on
your hard drive!  We've done hundreds of Disks, many for BBS systems just like
yours! Absolute confidentiality!

    Here's the best part: $105 plus $9 per tape!  Need to back up, dupe or
recut with mods an existing CD? $105!  Want 1 to 100 extra copies? Single
copies $36, Low as $16.00 each! No job is too small for CD now! Move that data
off the hard drive and onto inexpensive permanent media! GREAT FOR BBS files or
backups! Call InfoQuest and get your job scheduled today!

    Free consultations and instructions available. Just set up your drive(s)
like you want them, tape back them up, and ship 'em to us! We'll restore from
the tapes and write your stuff to CD-ROM and return it all back via Priority
Mail! Fast and No-Peek Private!

  TYPICAL COSTS:    $194.70 Complete!   Cost breakout as follows:

      Shipping to InfoQuest...............................$   2.90
      Dump 5 DC2120 Tapes to Spindle, @ $9 ea.............$  45
      74 Minute, 680 Meg CD Recording.....................$ 105
      Return Shipping to you..(Tapes shipped separately)..$   5.80
      1 Extra Copy of the Disk (While Data on Spindle)....$  36

  InfoQuest,  150 Pleasant Hill Road,  Carbondale, IL  62901-9702
          1-(618) 549-3414 - (FAX) 453-8517 (BBS) 453-8511

CD Technicians:  Terry, Charlie, GI; General Information: Mark, Mike, Ken,
Rocket, Chuck, Jon, Kelly, and Sharon.  Family Owned!

     NEW!  NO FILENAME RESTRICTIONS!  !@#%$%^_- ARE ALL OK!


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 9223
  To: SCOTT BRIGADE                            Date: 12/25/93  4:39p
Subj: Night owl 10.1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Scott!

Thursday December 23 1993 16:12, Scott Brigade wrote to Boris Osadciw:


 ->> N I G H T  O W L  10.1

 SB> What are the differences between 10 and 10.1?

Viruses.

Later,

Dave

... Clinton's proctologist called... his head is ready.

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 9224
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/25/93  8:38p
Subj: FLAME XXX ADULT CD  S                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Brice!

Tuesday December 21 1993 19:07, Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Lee Noga:

 >> If you didn't know the FBI monitors this echo

 BF>  And are watching Tony's case VERY closely, I bet - and a lot of them are
 BF> likely cussing the OK City police and DA offices for messing up so badly.

If at first you don't succeed... regroup and try again.  :-)

I bet Tony shits a solid-gold brick every time the theme form COPS comes on the
radio.

Later,

Dave

... Friends don't let friends vote democratic!

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From: DOUG HUNKELE                           Number: 9225
  To: JEFF WEISS                               Date: 12/25/93  7:09a
Subj: Re: bbs in a box                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JW >  DH> Got a cd labled "BBS IN A BOX" published by The Arizona
JW >  DH> Macintosh User's Group and Mac Wizards......
JW >  But, why would anyone else want to?  It's Mac stuff.
Trying to use it on a BBS, thanks for the input, guess i got a new frizbie..

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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 9226
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 12/26/93 10:51a
Subj: CD-ROM Review                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (26 Dec 93) Dave Clark wrote to All...
 DC> ======================================================================
 DC>                  CD-ROM DISC REVIEW - ARSENAL COMPUTER
 DC>                 P. O. BOX 5723, TOPEKA, KANSAS  66605
 DC>      VOICE (913) 234-4146  FAX (913) 234-8528  BBS (913) 234-9395
 DC> ======================================================================
 DC> 
 DC>         TITLE:
 DC>          SIZE:
 DC>         FILES:
 DC>     PUBLISHER:
 DC>      CATEGORY:
 DC>         DATED:
 DC>     BBS READY:
             PRICE: Please add this area
 Hi Dave and thanks for the new series of CD reviews (Christmas night
 no less - geee!).  Would like you to add one more area to your summary
 and that is PRICE: retail/street to kind of give us an additional idea
 just in case we desire to get burned - by how many degrees. <g>
 Otherwise thanks and keep up the good work.  I am sure that some pubs.,
 don't care for your reviews but it sure keeps them on their toes and
 helps enhance the overall product, once they see the critical eye.

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From: RICHARD MONTOYA                        Number: 9227
  To: JEREMY ROLLINGS                          Date: 12/25/93  3:16p
Subj: Re: Asimov CD                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Jeremy Rollings to Jean-louis Bontront <=-

 JB>Is there any such thing as a "Complete Asimov" CD collection of his
 JB>sci-fi writings?

 JR> Could you drop me a post when you get some info on this? 
 JR> It sounds great. 

Could you also copy me on "The Complete Asimov" CD as my son and I are avid
fans. Thanks.

... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: RICHARD MONTOYA                        Number: 9228
  To: JEFF MASTERMAN                           Date: 12/25/93  3:35p
Subj: Re: Encyclopedia                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Jeff Masterman to All <=-

 JM> Would someone please comment on the available encyclopedias. I am
 JM> thinking about buying 94'Encarta but I can get Comptons for about the
 JM> same money. I want to know which package has the most useful
 JM> information for my daughters age 10 and 13. Thanks. ===

The 93' version had limited printing capabilities, so you might check into 
this feature if your daughters like to printout pictures. This capability
is very useful for putting pictures and text on documents for homework, etc.
Compton's Multimedia has worked well for me.


... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: GENE GEIGER                            Number: 9229
  To: TAB TRESS                                Date: 12/26/93 10:54a
Subj: Busty Babes Volume I  Ver               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TT>Looking to sell or trade an unopened Busty Babes Volume I  Version I CD-ROM
  >BAM BAM logo on back cover.  Leave a message on this net.  This collectors
  >edition is in mint condition.  Hope you've had a very merry Xmas.
Sell or trade for how much or what?  -=Gene=-
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ "Modem," said the gardener when he'd finished the lawn


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From: LARRY FOX                              Number: 9230
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/26/93 11:27a
Subj: Wanted: CD-ROM drive                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking to add a CD-ROM drive to my BBS, just a simple one with an 
access speed around 300ms-400ms and 150K throughput.  I will consider a
double speed drive, however.

I have the following item(s) to offer in trade:
  
   14" Imtec VGA Multiscan monitor, rated at 800x600 but will    
      do 1024x768 with many controllers, .31 dot pitch, t/s base  

Please, trade offers only. 

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9231
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/27/93 12:59a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9232
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/27/93 12:59a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
                        ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $110.00 30day warrantee
Refurbished  NEC Model 36       CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee

                    ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee

                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
Shipping (drives)$25.00 for up to 2 drives,$40.00 for 3-4 drives.

                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
offering all
refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit, to be
shipped
upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30 days for
receipt of
your refurbished drive.

                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariant.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: RICK SHELTON                           Number: 9233
  To: GENE GEIGER                              Date: 12/25/93 12:44p
Subj: Busty Babes Vol 1 For Sal               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Gene!

Tuesday December 21 1993 19:02, Gene Geiger wrote to Rick Shelton:

 RS>> I have a Vol1 Release 1 of Busty Babes For sale, it has the Bam Bam
 RS>> logo.

 GG> I'll offer $50 + shipping if it's in mint shape.  -=Gene=-

Thanks but I think the disk is worth alot more than that. It is a collectors
item and has sold for as much as $500. That is why I am wanting to sell or
trade it.


Rick

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9234
  To: SCOTT BRIGADE                            Date: 12/26/93 12:07a
Subj: Re: Night owl 10.1                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 23 Dec 93 04:12pm, Scott Brigade wrote to Boris Osadciw:

->>                      N I G H T  O W L  10.1

>>    What are the differences between 10 and 10.1?


Other than the virus program being removed...nothing...not even the label
has been changed.

Hope this helps...


Boris Osadciw

... Be Young! Have Fun! Use Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9235
  To: TOM PARADISO                             Date: 12/26/93 12:07a
Subj: Re: CD-Rom & Disks                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 21 Dec 93 12:54pm, Tom Paradiso wrote to All:

>>    Hello All From the Rep-of-Panama


>>       I'm looking for some Disks (Shareware) for my BBS since I'm 
>>       not in the state's it's very hard to get the good deals, 
>>       can you guys tell me about the good ones ??? Please, low 
>>       cost. 


>>      Also would like to know what CD-ROM can work with a CDU 6251 
>>    sony also low cost.

>>    I'm trying to give the U.S.Military people the best I can in 
>>    shareware. 


If you'd like, your welcome to request our catalog via our Fidonet
address. You may request it via the Magic name of "CCI or CCI.ZIP"
Either way, you'll get it and some of the best prices around.

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Not Just Another Off-Line Mail System <tm>!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9236
  To: SCOTT PARKS                              Date: 12/26/93 12:07a
Subj: Re: Project Guttenberg                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 21 Dec 93 11:02am, Scott Parks wrote to All:

>>    The Oxford Text Library seems to be not the same as Project 
>>    Guttenberg so if anyone has information on obtaining 
>>    either/both of these collections on CD it would be greatly 
>>    appreciated. 


Have them both in stock !

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy
to help you out.


Boris Osadciw

... Be Young! Have Fun! Use Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9237
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/26/93 12:29a
Subj: Best Shareware Around                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            C R E A M     O F     T H E     C R O P    I I

OVER 654 MEGS New Shareware   4987 Files Dated '93'  Dup Checked
Virus Checked                 Files.BBS Support      Multi Line Discription
Mouse Support Menu            14Megs Prog Code       Plus MORE !!!
Only 200 prog Older Than April '93' - 10% Dup to NO10, Pier3, Software Gold

DEALERS WELCOME.......      PRICE - $25.

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263   FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9238
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/26/93 12:29a
Subj: CDROM Systems                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00  Chinon Ext 340ms Kit -  $449.00 -SCSI
NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare   - $379.00  NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $249.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $729.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1069.  -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms w/ctl   - $369.00  Texel Ext 245ms Bare  - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int 3021 Bare  Dr - $189.00  Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $389.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SCSI

 Groilers Encyc DOS v6.  $49.          ALL ChestNuts CD's $10.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 9239
  To: MARIO LERMITTE                           Date: 12/26/93  8:16p
Subj: CD ROMS WANTED!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ML>I looking for CD Roms with Bible and religious matherial on it.

ML>Please contact me, via this board or via netmail.


Hi, Mario:

I have a number of Bible CDs available including: Bible Lands & Stories,
Bible Library, Bibles & Religion, and others, as well as the King James
Bible.  These are available for very attractive pricing in $CDN.

For information and a Free Catalogue leave me your mailing address via
this netmail:  Hayden Bradshaw 1:229/15

HRB Computer Services
14 Hollis Crescent
Holland Landing, Ontario
Canada L9N 1E7
(905) 830-1615 / Orders (Canada): 1-800-265-7081
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 9240
  To: JASON CASSEL                             Date: 12/26/93 10:19p
Subj: Hitachi 3600 cd rom drives $99          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NOTE: This message was originally addressed to ALL
      and was forwarded to you by WILLIAM MANTZ
                          --------------------
                    Here they are...   $99  each !

 Hitachi cd rom drives model 3600 (that's right model 3600) $99 each.
 Access time 350 ms.  Transfer rate 150 kb/s.  These EXCELLENT drives
 can be daisy-chained up to 8 on each propitiatory controller card.

 They can use the same controller cards that  are  used  with  the
 model 3500's.  If you don't  already  have  an  interface  card I
 have them NEW for $60.  I also can provide external  cases  for 4
 or 8 of these drives and  external  cables  and  power  supplies.

 30   day   warranty.      All domestic orders are shipped  c.o.d.

 Call voice 205-824-2552  or "crash" netmail your order to 3625/441.
 Sorry...  routed  netmail  won't reach me since I get my  feed  via
 satellite.

--- timEd-A10c


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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 9241
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/25/93  9:27a
Subj: External CD-ROM $269                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hitachi CDR-101 $269
Single speed, 40 pin interface, 340ms access time, 175KB transfer rate.
Excellent for single drive BBS systems!..
All major credit cards accepted
 
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
Fax 1-206-473-1634 or 1-800-277-5179

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From: DENNIS HENDERSON                       Number: 9242
  To: SCOTT BRIGADE                            Date: 12/26/93  9:12a
Subj: Night owl 10.1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SB>->                      N I G H T  O W L  10.1
SB>
SB>What are the differences between 10 and 10.1?

10.1 doesn't include the viruses that were on 10 !!

Happy Holidays,
Dennis

 * Stolen Tagline -> * Difference between a virus & windows? Viruses never fail


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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9243
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/26/93 12:49a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9244
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/26/93 12:49a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
                        ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $110.00 30day warrantee
Refurbished  NEC Model 36       CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee

                    ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee

                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
Shipping (drives)$25.00 for up to 2 drives,$40.00 for 3-4 drives.

                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
offering all
refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit, to be
shipped
upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30 days for
receipt of
your refurbished drive.

                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariant.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 9245
  To: JOHN HUNTER                              Date: 12/24/93  9:44a
Subj: Pro phone cd                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JM->I have available one opened/unused copy of American Business Phone Book, mf
JM->erican Business Information, and it's the June 1992 update version.  Here's

JM->If this is what you want, let me know if $12.90 is satisfactory.  If it is,
JM-> send my address by netmail.

JH>Jerry: Interested in the cd/disk >If this includes shipping I will take
JH>it.

That's what the extra $2.90 was for.  :)  I'll mail it as soon as the USPO
opens again after the Christmas holiday.  Send me the check today or tomorrow
... it would be easier to wait until my address shows up on the package though.

Merry Christmas!

the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio, USA

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * Murphy is out there somewhere ... just waiting ...


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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 9246
  To: TOM RUDDY                                Date: 12/24/93 12:58p
Subj: Federalist papers                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TR>  Looking for a cdrom copy of the Federalist Papers. Anyone have one?

It's more like a file on a number of CD-ROMs.  I don't recall exactly which of
my ROMs has it, but the filename is FED15.ZIP.  By CD-ROM standards, the
Federalist collection isn't very large.

I thought it would be on Chestnut's Complete Bookshop with a lot of historical
stuff I produced, but I cannot find it.  Sorry.

the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio, USA

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * "We are face to face with our destiny."T.Roosevelt


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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 9247
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/25/93  9:09p
Subj: Busty babes vol ii -                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF> * SLMR 2.1a * ___ ___. ._.. __. ._ _ ___ ._. _.__  _._. .__  _ ._ __.

If it were spelled correctly, it would be easier to read. Try again.  Use
correct characters as well.

Back to the topic!  I've heard, and reject, the disparaging remarks about the
Busty Babes series.  I'll buy a copy of every one she produces in this series.

the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio, USA

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * Think hard now.  Which one is the Shinola?


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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 9248
  To: JERRY CORNELIUS                          Date: 12/26/93  3:14p
Subj: Adult CDROM                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <24 Dec 93  11:44:14>, Jerry Cornelius (1:125/17) writes:

 >MW>that the model "might have been under 18". Doesn't sound
 >MW>right to me...what ever happened to reasonable doubt?
 >
 >Whoops, you must be thinking of the old United States.  Those
 >constitutional rights have been steadily eroding away.
Scary isn't it, I wouldn't saying eroding. Stolen while the nation sleeps, is 
more like it. You still have rights, as long as you what you think agrees with
 the majority. 

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From: ALLEN DIETZ                            Number: 9249
  To: TOM RUDDY                                Date: 12/26/93 12:11a
Subj: Federalist Papers                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TR>  Looking for a cdrom copy of the Federalist Papers. Anyone have one?

They're available on the Library of the Future, Second Edition,
from World Library, Inc., Garden Grove, CA.
(800) 443-0238 or (714) 748-7197.

Allen


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From: JAMIE LEDBETTER                        Number: 9250
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/26/93  5:08p
Subj: CD ROM and Sound Card                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a CD ROM (Would like Double Speed, But not a Must) and a 16
Bit Sound Card.  I will also need the controller card that goes with the CD
ROM.  Must be working and compatable with each other.  If you have one for sale
leave me a message along with your price here and I will get in touch with you
as soon as possible. 
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 9251
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 12/25/93 10:22p
Subj: For Sale./                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sony CDU-31A CD-Rom drive and Pro Audio Spectrum 16 bit sound card.
300ms, 150kb transfer rate on the drive.

$250 or best offer.
 
  SMRead 3.3  #?    
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From: JOYCE ZWEEDYK                          Number: 9252
  To: SHANNON ADAMS                            Date: 12/25/93 11:11p
Subj: CD's FOR TRADE/SALE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Shannon Adams to All dated 12-21-93 ***
> 
> Where in the World is Carmen San Diego - Deluxe
> 



How much you willing to sell Carmen Sandiego for?

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From: JOYCE ZWEEDYK                          Number: 9253
  To: FREDERICK VAN DEN ABBEEL                 Date: 12/25/93 11:17p
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Frederick Van Den Abbeel to All dated 12-21-93 ***
>              My name is Frederick Van den Abbeel and I work for 
> Maxmedia Distibuting Inc which is a local CD-ROM seller in Orlando. We 
> carry 1000's of titles in stock and if quality and excellant service 
> are what you are looking for please give me a call and I will be happy 
> to answer any questions you may have or to send you out any 
> information. Please feel free to call me a 1-800-444-MRCD. Merry 
> Christmas and a Happy new Year.
> 


Do you have a catalog?

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From: JOHN GRANT                             Number: 9254
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/26/93 11:26a
Subj: AMIGA CD-ROMs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi!  WHile i can access ISO 9660 CDs for the IBM and MAC, I am REALLY looking
for CDs that are AMIGA in nature. ANybody have any of these that they are
looking to sell....either commercially or privately?  I like looking at ALL
kinds of CDs, so title is not really important...just price! Thank you for your
time! Take care, and TTYL!

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 9255
  To: KEVIN DOUGLAS                            Date: 12/25/93 11:53a
Subj: FLAME XXX ADULT CD  S                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Did you guys get my FAX OK? I'd very much appreciate a reply one way or
the other. Happy Holidays!

... "I'm not the one that misplaced the Deltivid asteroid belt!" - Q
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From: NINO FAGAN                             Number: 9256
  To: JOE PYE                                  Date: 12/25/93  7:46p
Subj: OS/2 CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Joe Pye wrote  
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
:>The Hobbs OS/2 CDRom was just released in October of this year.
:>Have it here on my bbs, very easy to install, and full of stuff. 
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

How did you install it?  Understand that it doesn't have FILES.BBS
files for BBS'?

Regards, 
Nino
... CAUTION: Do not install prior to installation.
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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 9257
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/23/93 11:58a
Subj: Hitachi CDR-3600 $$ Wars                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Happy Holidays to All,

Seeing ads for Hitachi CDR-3600 CD-ROM's, well we have them too! Over
600 of them to be exact. If you are considering a purchase of these
drives, now is the time, as the PRICING WAR has begun.
Effective today, December 23, 1993 we will BEAT any prices advertised
in any FIDO echo for the Hitachi CDR-3600 CD-ROM's.
Our warranty is 30 days. All units are technician serviced for proper
adjustments BEFORE they are shipped. So if you are a SYSOP and want to
enlarge your file base, please call us today! We will also gladly
beat prices on accessories for these drives, like interface cards,
cables and external closures.
Don't be fooled by the basement bargains a few sysops are offering, deal
with a true reseller with quality service for your investments!

Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE "Your CD-ROM drive headquarters!"
Voice   (517)892-5518
FAX     (517)892-5965
BBS     (517)892-5042
Fidonet   1:239/675
Internet  bedtelyo@cris.com


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 9258
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/24/93 12:51a
Subj: CD-ROM's and Disk 4 Sale!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you are in the market for CD-ROM drives or disks, please
FREQ our current list as follows:
Great deals on Hitachi CDR-3600 units are waiting!

CD-ROM Drives     CD4SALE.ZIP or MAGIC name of DRIVES
CD-ROM Disks      CD_LIST.ZIP or MAGIC name of DISKS

These files can be FREQ from:

MEG*A*BITE "Your CD-ROM drive headquarters"
1159 Orchard Rd.
Essexville, MI  48732-1912
Voice  (517)892-5518
Fido   1:239/675



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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 9259
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 12/24/93 10:24p
Subj: Hitachi CD-ROM's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Fujitsu M2694ESA     1.0 GB SCSI-2 3.5.......................$899
-> Quantum PD1225s      1.2 GB SCSI-2 3.5.......................$979
-> Micropolis 2210      1.2 GB SCSI-2 3.5 Fast..................$960

Might be interested Jim. Call me voice Monday or Tuesday so we can talk
about it.
Matt Bedtelyon
1:239/675


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 9260
  To: ROBERT MOORE                             Date: 12/24/93 10:29p
Subj: CD-ROM drives!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hello, I bought four Hitachi CDR3500 drives from you, so I have been
-> your prices in this echo.  I have noticed that your price lists inclu
-> that say 'AT Interface'.  I thought all CD ROMs used either a standar
-> proprietary SCSI interface.  Is the 'AT Interface' in your ads the sa
-> 'IDE AT interface'?  Does this mean that you can connect a CD ROM dri
-> says 'AT Interface' to a standard IDE controller?

Hitachi drives need a Hitachi interface which all proprietery interfaces
at this time are refered to as AT Bus. A new IDE interface will be out
in the Philips line sometime in the 2nd quarter of 94. Please let me
know if you need any of the 3600s. We will make a deal no matter what
<g>.
Some bargain basement wholesalers are also selling the drives, but we
will beat most any deal!
Talk to you soon!

Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE
(517)892-5518


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From: ANTHONY FURGISON                       Number: 9261
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 12/26/93 12:41a
Subj: Hitachi CDROM's                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry but I do not know that model number. Is it compatable with the 3500 and
can it be used on the same card? If not with a new card and the same drivers?
Give me some idea of how much you would like for them as I do not know there
value.

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From: CJ JASKIEWICZ                          Number: 9262
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/24/93  8:22p
Subj: CD-ROM SHAREWARE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well Brice, Like I mentioned in the message or best offer, wasn't too
sure how much it was going for so that's why I listed them that way.
Make an offer, but remember it doesn't include shipping. It's just
sittin here collectin' dust in the box. Let me know what ya decide, Have
A nice christmas!    C.J.


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 9263
  To: BRIAN ELFERT                             Date: 12/25/93 10:00a
Subj: wholesalers                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Mitsumi is as cheap as it gets for a CD-ROM drive.

Not True. Hitachi CDR-101A are only 171.00 and a far better drive than
the Mitsumi versions. We have them in stock, and they come plug and
play!

Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE
1:239/675


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 9264
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/26/93  8:53p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


                    Here they are...   $99  each !

 Hitachi cd rom drives model 3600 (that's right model 3600) $99 each.
 Access time 350 ms.  Transfer rate 150 kb/s.  These EXCELLENT drives
 can be daisy-chained up to 8 on each propitiatory controller card.

 They can use the same controller cards that  are  used  with  the
 model 3500's.  If you don't  already  have  an  interface  card I
 have them NEW for $60. I also can provide caddies, external cases
 for 4 or 8 of these drives and external cables caddies and  power
 supplies.

 30   day   warranty.      All domestic orders are shipped  c.o.d.

 Call voice 205-824-2552  or "crash" netmail your order to 3625/441.
 Sorry...  routed  netmail  won't reach me since I get my  feed  via
 satellite.

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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 9265
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/26/93  8:14p
Subj: Hitachi CD-ROMS                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you are in the market for CD-ROM drives that are low
cost, daisy chainable up to eight (8) units on one card
and are warrantied for a full 30 days.........
MEG*A*BITE is pleased to announce that we made a large
purchase for over 600+ HITACHI 3600 CD-ROM readers.
These drives carry MEG*A*BITE's exclusive thirty day (30)
warranty that protects you from DOA's. External cabinets
are available for one, four and eight drive configurations.
The CDR-3600 drives have access speeds of 360 msec and a
transfer rate of 150 KBsec. These drives are HITACHI
quality through and through and will perform great in
personal and BBS usages. Now for the good news......
           Refurbished CDR-3600.......$130.00 or less
           IF8 Interface cards........$60.00 or less
           Cables.....................Free w/drive(s)
           Cabinets...................$CALL
    MULTIPLE DRIVE DISCOUNTS ARE AVAILABLE !!!!!!!
All of our drives are shipped UPS, with manuals and the
newest software drivers from Hitachi America!
You will see these drives advertised by others in these
echoes, so remember, call MEG*A*BITE and deal with the
CD-ROM professionals, not bargain basement wholesalers!
WE WILL BEAT ANY DEAL OFFERED BY ANY INDIVIDUALS SELLING
THESE DRIVES on any of the FIDO echoes. Remember, we
stock drives, cards, cases and cables for your every
need. So call us today were easy to remember......
                    We accept VISA!
                    We accept Mastercard!
                    We accept Carte Blanche!
                    We accept Diners Club!
We are MEG*A*BITE              Fido 1:239/675
1159 Orchard Road              Internet bedtelyo@cris.com
Essexville, MI 48732           A proud member of
Voice (517)892-5518            CRIS, a Sprint Network
FAX   (517)892-5965            located in beautiful
BBS   (517)892-5043            Bay City, MI


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 9266
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/26/93  8:16p
Subj: CD-ROM's for Sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you are in the market for CD-ROM drives or disks, please
FREQ our current list as follows:
Great deals on Hitachi CDR-3600 units are waiting!

CD-ROM Drives     CD4SALE.ZIP or MAGIC name of DRIVES
CD-ROM Disks      CD_LIST.ZIP or MAGIC name of DISKS

These files can be FREQ from:

MEG*A*BITE "Your CD-ROM drive headquarters"
1159 Orchard Rd.
Essexville, MI  48732-1912
Voice  (517)892-5518
Fido   1:239/675



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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 9267
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/26/93  4:30a
Subj: Adult CD trade wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SR>I already have amatuer models.  Do you have any others for MP Collection?

Scott, the disc is already traded
Randy

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From: JASON WAGNER                           Number: 9268
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/26/93 10:37p
Subj: Looking for...                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Greetings All!

I am looking for any company advertising here that is selling (new, I don't
want them used):

7th Guest I / II
Alone In The Dark I / II
The Journeyman Project
Rebel Assault
Forbidden Subjects
Comanche: Maximum Overkill (100 Missions CD)

... On CD-ROM.  Please reply here with a price list, or, if you want,
put me on your mailing list...

       Thanks!
       Jason Wagner
       3726 Elder Court
       Sierra Vista, Az
       85635

P.S.
Also, since I'm new to this CD-ROM echo and don't know too much about the
CD-Ware out there, any catalogs with descriptions of the programs and
disks would be preferred over just a simple files list.  Thanks!



... Docs? Why would I want to look at the Docs. Nurses are better :)
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From: JASON WAGNER                           Number: 9269
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/26/93  9:56p
Subj: Virtual Starter Kit                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can anyone tell me more about the Virtual Reality Starter Kit?  My BBS is
dedicated to VR but I have no idea what this is and would really like to
order it, provided it is what I want!

Thanks,
Jason


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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 9270
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/26/93 10:41p
Subj: Looking For Information Finder Encyclopedia CD-ROM  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for the Information Finder CD-ROM, which contains the World Book
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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 9271
  To: SCOTT PARKS                              Date: 12/26/93 10:43p
Subj: MVP Software CD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What is the MVP software CD-ROM and how do I get one?


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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 9272
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/26/93 10:45p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST P1 OF 4               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I didn't see your whole catalogue--only 1 of 4, so could you please send me one
at:  9250 Pine Cone Rd., Colorado Springs, CO 80908-2214.  I see some
interesting things here.  Thanks.


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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 9273
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 12/26/93 11:15p
Subj: CD-ROM Review: S/W Vault Win            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I appreciate the CD-ROM disc reviews you do and upload to the CD-ROM echo areas
for everone's benefit.  Keep them coming.


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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 9274
  To: JOHN VAN HARE                            Date: 12/26/93 10:18p
Subj: Mitsumi Double Speeds                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JVH>OK, the Mitsumi double speed CDROMs are down to 197.00 cash and carry at Be
   >Buy, anyone can beat this?


Whats the phone # and will they do mail order????

James
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 9275
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 12/26/93 11:14p
Subj: * CD-ROMS for Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What year is the Groliers?  INterested in Trading for shareware or
adult cds?

Thanks
Scott
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 9276
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 12/26/93 11:18p
Subj: Bodacious Beauties -S                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can you send me info on how to get a copy.

Thanks
Scott Raley
Netmail (fido) 1:2612/104
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 9277
  To: MICHIAL THOMPSON                         Date: 12/26/93 11:24p
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will offer you $39 shipped for the tape backup.

Guaranteed that it works and will work upon arrival.

Is it internal or external and what is the age and condition of it?

Thanks
Scott RAley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 9278
  To: STEVE O'BRIEN                            Date: 12/26/93 11:31p
Subj: WANTED MPCollection I n/                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have my private collection 1.  What other cds do you have to
trade?  What do youoffer?

Thanks
Scott
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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 9279
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/26/93  6:21p
Subj: BB                                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

OK thanks, so there is about 4 Bust Babes....
out of those, which ones can you get to sell and which do you consider the
"best" (in general)?

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9280
  To: STEVE O'BRIEN                            Date: 12/27/93 12:40a
Subj: Re: WANTED MPCollection I n/or II       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 24 Dec 93 02:48pm, Steve O'brien wrote to All:

>>    TO ALL
>>     
>>    LOOKING FOR:
>>    ******* My Private Collection Volumes I and or II *********
>>    If you have this item for sale for a reasonible price CALL:
>>    215/533-3190 and ask for Steve OR
>>    Leave E-mail!!


Have both of the above in stock as well as some 30 + other adult tiltes.

Interested, give us a call anytime at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to
assist you further.


Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9281
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/27/93  1:53a
Subj: CDROM Systems                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00  Chinon Ext 340ms Kit -  $449.00 -SCSI
NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare   - $379.00  NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $249.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $729.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1069.  -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms w/ctl   - $369.00  Texel Ext 245ms Bare  - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int 3021 Bare  Dr - $189.00  Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $389.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SCSI

 Groilers Encyc DOS v6.  $49.          ALL ChestNuts CD's $10.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... CAUTION! Silver Xpress roaring through here!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9282
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/27/93  1:53a
Subj: SPECIAL BUNDLE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~[  S P E C I A L  B U N D L E S  ]~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1. Software Vault Gold     2. Night Owl 10.1        3. Shareware Online 2
   Software Vault Games       Night Owl Games          Gameware
   Software Vault Windows     Night Owl Graphics       Soundware
   Price - $49.00             Price - $65.00           Price - $49.00

4. Hobbes OS/2 'NOV'       5. Tech Arsenal          6. Pier 3
   Window Users Arch          TechnoTool               Cream Of The Crop II
   Price - $30.00             Price - $30.00           Price - $45.00
   ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUE 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

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From: AL KAISER                              Number: 9283
  To: JIM HILGEFORD                            Date: 12/26/93  2:18a
Subj: CD Disks for Sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 12-22-93 Jim Hilgeford wrote to Al Kaiser... 
 
 JH>         I would be interested in Arthur's Teacher Trouble for my Grand

 JH>         Daughter. $25.00 and you pay UPS. Call 602-544-9657 or get me 
 JH>         your address so I can send you a certified check. 
 JH>         Thanks  JIm 
 
Send your check to: 
 
Al Kaiser 
194 Glen Hills Rd. 
Meriden, CT 06451-3832 
 
Make sure you include your complete address and that it is not at a PO 
Box which UPS can't service. 
 
 
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From: TED KIDD                               Number: 9284
  To: JD BROWN                                 Date: 12/25/93  1:21p
Subj: OS/2 CD wanted                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JB> Now if I was to let you in on my secret sources, they wouldn't be 
JB> secret anymore would they?
JB> This one is no secret though. I bought several copies when it first 
JB> came out and was offered at the low low price of.......to dealers...

There is a store here in Michigan called "Best Buy" that is selling the CD-Rom
version for $79.95 - this is the best price I've seen for it (new).
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From: DAVID THROCKMORTON                     Number: 9285
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 12/26/93  2:04p
Subj: Flame XXX Adult CD  Super hot!!         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > >   One other factor I would like to ask about, are there any "young"
 > >models on this CD?  There have been 2 boards in my area that have been
 > >"busted" for child pornography in the last year because they had gifs of
 > >girls that "could have been under 18".  If this CD meets this
 > >qualification  I would be interested in a copy for my board.

 > It sounds like you want a CD with "young" models...I don't
 > think so but the  wording is very unclear. I am interested in
 > what became of those busts of the  boards with .gifs that the
 > model "might have been under 18". Doesn't sound  right to
 > me...what ever happened to reasonable doubt?

  No I dont want any "young" models on the drive. Sorry for being unclear.
 It seems that reasonable doubt doesnt apply with the FBI.  They took one of
the gifs to a local doctor who looked at it and said that the girl "could" be
under 18.  This seemed to be enough for the FBI and they confiscated all the
equiptment of the board as evidence in the case. You see it doesnt matter if
the guy was doing anything wrong, they still have all his equipt. and you know
how long it takes for the judicial system.  Nuf said. Better get back on topic.


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From: DAVID THROCKMORTON                     Number: 9286
  To: LAWRENCE MINTZ                           Date: 12/26/93  3:57p
Subj: Night owl 10.1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > ->                      N I G H T  O W L  10.1

 > What are the differences between 10 and 10.1?

 LM> Two files with viruses detected in them in 10 have been removed
 LM> from the disk in 10.1.

 LM> Larry

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   Would you recommend this disk for BBS use?  I am looking for the best new
Shareware disk.  Would this be it?  Would like to have files.bbs format or
extended format and seperate dir for each area.  Thanks in advance.

 David


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From: JAY TAYLOR                             Number: 9287
  To: RICK PEDLEY                              Date: 12/26/93 11:46p
Subj: Battle chess enh                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> JT>I have Battle Chess Enhanced that I would sell you for $25.  Let m
-> JT>if you still want it.
->
-> Thanks Jay, yes I do want it, but I'll have to sell the other one fir
-> Anyone want the UNenhanced Battle Chess on CD-ROM for 12$US/14$Cdn, s
-> included? (brand new condition)

Okay, just let me know if you ever want it, I'll probably have it.


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From: MIKE GRIFFIN                           Number: 9288
  To: JOHN CALLICRATE                          Date: 12/26/93 10:06p
Subj: Drivers                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello John!

25 Dec 93 18:23, John Callicrate wrote to Tony Mann:

 JC> - EZ-SCSI version 1.0 (5 1/4" disk) with Manual
 JC>   (both originals) - $25.00

 JC> or

 JC> - EZ-SCSI version 2.03 (5 1/4" disk) NO manual!
 JC>   (disk is original) - $35.00

 JC> EZ-SCSI is software for Adaptec SCSI controllers,
 JC> it has drivers for many CDROMS and other devices.

It's also available for free from Adaptec's BBS. Just the cost of the phone
call...

Mike

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From: MIKE GRIFFIN                           Number: 9289
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 12/26/93 10:29p
Subj: CD-ROM Review: S/W Vault Win            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Dave!

26 Dec 93 01:42, Dave Clark wrote to All:

 DC> The Following is a CD-ROM "review."  The opinions expressed belong
 DC> solely to Dave Clark, Sysop of Arsenal Computer BBS.

Thanks for taking the time to inform the rest of us on current CDs. I just
wanted you to know that I appreciate your reviews and have based some of my
purchases on your input.

Thanks again!

Mike

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 9290
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 12/25/93  8:58p
Subj: Re: Disks                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <12-23-93 05:14> Randy Neuner wrote:

RN>> Lee, received the disks yesterday (Wed) in good condition.  Thanks
RN>> alot
RN>> and Happy Holidays.  My holidays are looking up.

Great ! --I do as I say I will do, and I don't want you to believe that all of
us that participate in this echo are crooks--Just wanted to restore your faith
in publishers !

Merry Xmas !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 9291
  To: JERRY CORNELIUS                          Date: 12/25/93  9:29p
Subj: Re: Flame XXX Adult CD  Supe            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


In a message to All <12-22-93 13:42> Jerry Cornelius wrote:

JC>> Yeah, yeah.  She said the same thing last year.

Yeah, yeah, I said 1993 was gonna be the year of copyright infringements, and
1994 is gonna be the year of obscentiy challenges--

Take it from me, this is direct from Disney attorneys to us, there are several
anti-pornography groups forming to wrestle these XXX CD-ROMS--If you are so
knowledgable about what's a happend lately, then cite the case of Ferris
Alexander June of 1993, would you ? This case will be the RICO standards
applied to CD-ROMS--

BTW, the premium value of the disc's are those that are out of circulation from
which we don't benefit from the sales of--So, get off my back about trying to
start a panic buying spree--I can't sell what I don't have, so instilling panic
serves no purpose--The consumers are controlling these prices, not the
publishers--

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 9292
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/25/93  9:32p
Subj: BB                                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 


In a message to Jeff Jenkins <12-23-93 01:15> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS>> Hey Lee, any word on a vol 2 rel 2 or something along those lines?

Sounds as if its rumour--Vol II is solid and remains at release 1.0-
What's got ya confused :) ? No reason to re-master as of yet.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 9293
  To: ROBIN HARDISON                           Date: 12/25/93  9:34p
Subj: Re: Did you receive?                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


In a message to Lee Noga <12-22-93 16:36> Robin Hardison wrote:

RH>> I was just wondering if you received a netmail message from me a few
RH>> days ago asking about some CD's.

Been on vacation--Will check the netmail and reply :)

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 9294
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/26/93  9:18a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES VOL II -                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <12-22-93 13:52> Brice Fleckenstein wrote:

BF>> >Perhaps there is an "OLD LADY GOSSIP ECHO" available for you to post
BF>> these

BF>>  Odd, Lee manages to keep the personal insults out of her
BF>> postings....

Ya' noticed :)--At the rate the garbage is escalating, I may be able to get a
Multimedia database on CD-ROM, of all the pitfalls of being a publisher.

What I meant to say, according to my first amendment attorney, the states are
looking at the RICO act as a possible defense against the obscenity on
CD-ROMS--This is the same act used against those in the video industry.

In June there was a major setback to a video dealer whom lost in appeals, and
this is why this act is threatening.

Tony and I stay in a contact, and granted there are alot of wrong things that
happend relevant to his case, but its costing a king's fortune to straighten it
out--This goes back to an earlier statement when I said that those that choose
to dabble in the seculiar, should have a legal contingency fund on the side,
because they will be challenged....bottom line is it costs big bucks even when
your likely to prevail.....

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 9295
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 12/27/93 11:26a
Subj: Re: Merry Xmas                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


In a message to lee noga <12-24-93 16:17> Michael Harris wrote:

MH>> Have a Merry Xmas and Happy New, now if you are Jewish then happy
MH>> Haunaka. spelled correct I hope. :-)

Christmas was *GREAT*--Didn't get one dagblasted CD-ROM tho'...just as well,
there is too many to choose from :)

Hope you got everything you asked for...let the bills start rolling in..

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 9296
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 12/27/93 11:31a
Subj: Re: BBS disc's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <12-25-93 04:59> Mark Walker wrote:

MW>> Isn't that a coincidence I was talking about FLD. BTW is your new
MW>> disc still  on schedule for Jan 15 release?

FLD is defunct, and the new company is LDI (Lion's Den Int'l), and the disc is
still slated for Jan release, but the 15th is doubtful--Lost alot of time with
these damn law suits, but we are back on the project ! We possess the slides,
and thats half the battle :).

We will *NEVER* charge a node fee, and we have a monopoly on some high end
collections for 1994. But, charging a node fee if reasonable, may be worth it
to some--Our photographers had that concern once, and well we knocked it right
out of their heads :)--

-=*>Lee<*  
 
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From: JESSE GODSEY                           Number: 9297
  To: JESSE GODSEY                             Date: 12/26/93  4:33p
Subj: Pioneer 6 Cd-Changer Wanted             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for a good price on a new or really good used Pioneer 6 
CD-Changer, anyone have any idea where I could pick one up for a 
decent price???


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From: MIKE BILOW                             Number: 9298
  To: CHARLES STRUSZ @ 970/201                 Date: 12/27/93  5:56p
Subj: Custom cd-rom recording -               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Dec 25 20:58>, Charles Strusz @ 970/201 of 1:10/8 writes:

 CS@9>      NEW!  NO FILENAME RESTRICTIONS!  !@#%$%^_- ARE ALL OK!

Can you do Rockridge extensions?

-- Mike

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From: MIKE BILOW                             Number: 9299
  To: CASEY ROMANSKI                           Date: 12/27/93  6:02p
Subj: SPECIALS FOR X-MAS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Dec 25 08:17>, Casey Romanski of 1:393/10 writes:

BF>> >When you say a CD ROM drive is 'AT Bus', does this mean the same as
BF>> >it means for Hard Drives?  In other words 'AT Bus CD ROM' equals
BF>> >into IDE paddle board card'?

BF>>  NO.
BF>> 
BF>> There is no such thing as an "IDE interface" CD-ROM drive. The ONLY
BF>> things that attach to an IDE paddle card are IDE hard drives a few
BF>> models of tape drives.

 CR> Hmmmmmmm. Then why does my CD Drive operate with a IDE cable?

Does everything with two pins on it plug into the wall outlet?

Bruce is right.  Some CD-ROM drive manufacturers even call their proprietary
connector an "IDE" interface, but the signals are on different pins than has
become standard for IDE hard drives.  No CD-ROM drives currently manufactured
can be plugged into an IDE hard drive controller.  (Well, I suppose you can
plug them in, but they will not work and may actually be damaged.)  The
designers of the CD-ROM 40-pin interfaces seem to have borrowed a little from
IDE hard drives, a little from floppy drives, and scrambled it all up for good
measure.

Almost all of the proprietary interfaces used by different CD-ROM manufacturers
are very similar, with the pins remapped to different and arbitrary physical
positions so that you cannot plug them into each other.  The Panasonic and
Mitsumi differ only by a wiring diagram.  In a few cases, such as Sony, you
need some hardware in addition to just moving pins around.

Personally, I'm running SCSI.  :-)

-- Mike

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 9300
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/26/93  1:15p
Subj: PacRim 94                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have many PacRim 94 discount tickets. If you are interested attending to the
show, please net-mail to me and I will mail discount tickets for you. PacRim
94, Jan 18-19-20 Vancouver Trade & Convention Centre, BC CANADA. We are one of
the exhibitor, if you like to see us, please come to Booth # 1525.
 
 GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1:138/116 or 1:138/120
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From: JOHN BULLINGTON                        Number: 9301
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/27/93  2:51a
Subj: Mitsumi or double speed                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for the best prices for a new Mitusmi Double speed FX001D.
Doesn't need to be bundled with anything but if it is please mention.


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From: RICK SHOAF                             Number: 9302
  To: CASEY ROMANSKI                           Date: 12/27/93  2:07p
Subj: Specials For X-Mas                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CR>--> Casey Romanski Quotes a message written by Brice Fleckenstein
CR>--> to Robert Moore on 12-21-93 14:25 saying:
CR>BF> >When you say a CD ROM drive is 'AT Bus', does this mean the s
CR>BF> it
CR>BF> >means for Hard Drives?  In other words 'AT Bus CD ROM' equals
CR>BF> into
CR>BF> >IDE paddle board card'?
CR>BF>
CR>BF>  NO.
CR>BF>
CR>BF>  There is no such thing as an "IDE interface" CD-ROM drive. To
CR>BF> ONLY
CR>BF> things that attach to an IDE paddle card are IDE hard drives a
CR>BF> few
CR>BF> models of tape drives.
CR>BF>
CR>BF>
CR>Hmmmmmmm. Then why does my CD Drive operate with a IDE cable?
CR>BF> (1:231/190)
CR>BF>

Because it needs the same amount of pins to control it. There are no, I
repeat no, IDE cdroms! There are SCSI and proprietary interfaces that
use the same type cable, but no IDE. AT-BUS means that it takes at least
a 16 bit slot in your computer for the adapter card.


Rick
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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 9303
  To: JERRY CORNELIUS                          Date: 12/27/93  6:34p
Subj: Adult CD Roms                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > All of what I've said applies to still storage.  I agree with you that
 > when it comes to animation and "interactivity" that things seem silly.
 > Renting a movie for $3 would seem to allow for variety, resolution,
 > sound, etc, and the viewer still retains control over speed, repeating
 > a
 > scene, and so forth.  I should note, though, that my experience with
 > animation is limited to .GL and I've never seen an "interactive"
 > title.

A good if not somewhat kiddie type game that is interactive is Loom, the guy
talks walks and so on and if you try something you shouldn't he tells you that
won't work. Granted this isn't adult graphics but until we get superduper fast
inexpensive cd-rom drives I'll rent the moving adult stuff. :-)

                                    Mike Harris

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 9304
  To: RICKY PURCELL                            Date: 12/27/93  6:57p
Subj: CDROMS WANTED (GAMES)                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Mike:  Are still selling KQ VI for $20?  If you are let me know.  Oh
 > buy the way is it on CD-ROM?
 >         Thanks: Rick

Yes it's still for sale at $20.00 $2.90 if you want second day us mail shipping
and yes it is on CD and I'll give you a disk of most of the hints that you can
get from the Sierra BBS free.

302-674-3966 just leave a message.

                                  Mike Harris

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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 9305
  To: VIC HLUSHAK                              Date: 12/27/93 12:36a
Subj: BB1                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

VH>Thanks but I have a Fax/Modem just like yours.

VH>Merry Christmas. EH!

VH>:-) Vic


VIC,
How about trading ANIMATION FANTASIES for BB1?  Let me know.
Greg

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From: JOE HEUGLY                             Number: 9306
  To: MATTHEW LYNCH                            Date: 12/22/93  5:35p
Subj: Anyone got a....                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ML>Hey out there....  Does anyone have a Battle Chess Enhanced CD or a
ML>Chess Master 3000 (or National Lampoon's Chess Master 5
ML>Billion, for that matter)

Hi Matthew,
I have the Battle Chess Enhanced CD-ROM, with box and all paperwork
except the registration card.  I didn't see your original message, just
this portion in a follow-up.  Are you looking to buy or trade?
    Joe
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 9307
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/27/93  3:26p
Subj: Return to Zork sale/trade               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For sale or trade...

RETURN TO ZORK game on CD
Includes all packaging and documentation.

Asking $35 (price includes postage), or make an offer.
Will consider trade for Street Atlas USA CD, or Microsoft Musical
Instruments CD. Have something else to trade? Give it a try, but
there's not much else I'm interested in right now!

Leave message here, or call 913-888-5201 ext.257
(M-F 8a-4p Central, or leave voice mail if before/after hours)

- Heather
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From: BOBBY POSEY                            Number: 9308
  To: DICK WALSH                               Date: 12/27/93  6:44p
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Boris when I talked to you last you said that I would have a catalog in
 > about a week   Well I have not received one as yet   Would you please
 > send me one     Dick Walsh  4254 Harvest Lane   Toledo, Ohio  43623-4129
 >   Thanks in advance  <Dick>
 > BTW if any other suppliers have catalogs I would appreciate there
 > sending them to me and putting me on their mailing list's    <Dick>

You can file Request the catalog from Me as CCI.ZIP or just CCI Dick.
This is the latest catalog that Boris has and I do update it just about every
week.   You can get it 23 hrs daily up to 16.8 at 1:388/20 if you can get in
between the users..

Bobby

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 9309
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/23/93  7:40a
Subj: Re: Best Shareware Around               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BO> C R E A M     O F     T H E     C R O P    I I
 BO> DEALERS WELCOME.......      PRICE - $25.

Boris, my order is on the way.  Never ordered from you before but seen
your name in this echo alot.

Randy Neuner
High Noon BBS


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From: GERALD BANACH                          Number: 9310
  To: CHARLIE JARMAN                           Date: 12/27/93  4:26p
Subj: looking for Sony 535's                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Charlie,

I have a Sony CDU535 with a Sony Interface CDB 241. Unfortunately, the
interface card died. I would like to replace it with a sound card but I can not
find one with a 40 pin connector. Do you have a suggestion?

I also noticed in one of your ads that you have a Sony 535 that is xa
complient. How is this so?

If worse comes to worse I am interested in finding a replacement CDB 241 card
in the event a sound card is not available.

Thanks,

Jerry


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From: LARRY BUSSELL                          Number: 9311
  To: MICHAEL MURPHY                           Date: 12/24/93 11:29p
Subj: Night Owl's 10 CD! problem              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Michael Murphy wrote in a message to All:

MM> The Night Owl publishers has said that they will replace
MM> your infected CD with a new one that has the files deleted!
MM> Their numbers are:
MM> Office: 716-484-3066
MM> BBS:    716-483-3925
    I called them Dec 23 and they shipped it over night, they are great..
    As to the Virus it was a nothing virus, it would kill the Dir the
    virus was in. So don't worry if a user got it..

TTYL,
           Larry

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From: LARRY BUSSELL                          Number: 9312
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/24/93 11:36p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 10 VIRUS REPORT               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike Shannon wrote in a message to Chris Bourne:

CB>  Are you still replacing the disc for those that purchased it from you. If
s
CB>  would like to return it. If these are there, hard telling what else might
b
CB>  lurking.

MS> Chris,

MS> Word from the fabulous Night Owl compound is that you should
MS> return it directly to them for replacement:

MS>              Night Owl Publisher
MS>              1611 Falconer Stillwater Rd.
MS>              Jamestown, NY  14701

MS> Good luck,
      No need for good luck they do it over night.
      I called them Dec 23 and on the 24 I had the new one....
      And the virus that was on it was no big deal......
      It does not kill the drive like some users said, it just kills
      the Dir the virus file is in....

TTYL,
           Larry

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From: IAN SINGER                             Number: 9313
  To: CASEY ROMANSKI                           Date: 12/26/93  4:30p
Subj: drive cables                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hmmmmmmm. Then why does my CD Drive operate with a IDE cable?

So does my Hitachi 3600 but its a proprietary parallel.

Talking of cables:

  My CMS tape controller card has same connector as external Hitachi CDs
     plug them in and they blow
  My Laser Jet II parallel has same port as external scsi on Always 2000
     plug it in and it blows fuse on controller and the hard drive.

And YES I have lost 1 HD and two CD drives that way.

Oh and by the way my shoes area same shape as the 5 year old next door
but that doesnt mean I should wear them
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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9314
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/27/93  5:09p
Subj: CD's Educational                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                  "NEW & IMPROVED USER-FRIENDLY PRICE LIST!"
        Over 1,200 disc titles & hardware products are now available.
To order, contact:
                                 Joe Rinehart
                               config.sys, Inc.
                                 P. O. Box 27
                            Kent, Ohio 44240-0001
 Voice: (216) 296-9831  24 hours
 Voice: (216) 296-4446  24 hours
 Voice: (216) 296-1633 6pm-midnight (EST)
 Voice/Messages/Fax: (216) 297-1332 24 hours
 Toll-Free (in Ohio Only) 1-800-521-2881 6pm - midnight (EST)
 Data/Fax (216) 296-2244 ZyXel 16.8 v.42bis The Blue Parrot RBBS 24HRS
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 WWIVNet: 2@2659
 Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
 Internet Alternate: joe@config.wariant.org
 CD CATALOG FREQ:  CDLIST.ZIP or majic name CDLIST


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under $50.00.  3rd Class shipping on request. All orders are insured.
International orders shipped acccording to U.S. Customs regulations.

This list may have suggested retail prices on hardware.  For current discount
prices on hardware, please call, as the market fluctuates.  CD-ROM drives
starting at $99.95!

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MISC. INFORMATION:
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Category Key:
         a = Adult                      mi = Misc.
         h = Hardware                   mu = Music
        bu = Business                   pr = Programming
        cl = Clip Art                   re = Resource
        ed = Educational                sh = Shareware
        en = Entertainment              tr = Travel
        li = Library                    ut = Utilities

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CD Caddies                             mi    5.00  with disc order 4.50


A Plus Grade Builder            40.60 Last Chance to See (Mac)        29.00
A Silly Noisy House-- Mac       17.40 Learn English/German            74.99
Advanced Learning Fun           44.94 Learn To Speak English          74.00
Adventures                      36.25 Learn To Speak French           61.60
Aesop's Fables                  26.10 Learn To Speak Spanish          61.60
Aladdin and His Wonderful Lamp  35.35 Learn to speak English from Span74.99
Amanda Stories                  51.00 Learning Adventure              11.60
Amanda Stories-- Mac            50.99 Learning Fly Fishing            36.24
Americans in Space (CD-IBM/CD-MA61.60 Learning Fun for Kids           11.60
Anecdote                        13.05 Learning at Home-- Berenstain Be34.80
Annabel's Dream of Ancient Egypt68.60 Let's Play                      25.00
Arthur's Teacher Trouble        29.00 Little Red Riding Hood!         43.49
Arthur's Teacher Trouble-- Mac  57.40 Lyric Language French           47.85
Astrology Source (CDIBM/CD-MAC) 61.60 Lyric Language Spanish          47.85
Atlas of US Presidents          29.00 Macademic 2.1                   86.99
Barney Bear Goes To School      13.05 Mammals Encyclopedia           119.69
Barney Bear Goes To Space       13.05 Mario Teaches Typing            57.39
Barrons Book Notes              31.90 Max the Dragon 2 (CD-IBM/CD-MAC)60.20
Beauty and the Beast            21.75 McMillan Dictionary for Children23.20
Berenstain Bears: Learning at Ho33.35 Microsoft Dinosaurs             69.00
Berlitz Think & Talk French    134.00 Mixed Up Mother Goose           17.40
Berlitz Think & Talk German    134.00 Monarch Notes                   51.00
Berlitz Think & Talk Italian   134.00 Mowgli's Brothers               25.38
Berlitz Think & Talk Spanish   134.00 Multimedia Computer Tutor       17.40
Bible Lands & Stories           42.05 Peter Rabbit                    40.59
Britannica Family Choice        21.75 Peter and the Wolf              31.90
Christmas Carol                 25.50 Pinnochio                       52.99
Compton's Family Choice         45.09 Pinnochio-- Mac                 52.99
Creation Stories                42.00 Playing with Language - English 26.10
Creative Kids                   36.25 Playing with Language - French  26.10
Creepy Crawlies                 50.99 Playing with Language - German  26.10
Creepy Crawlies-- Mac           50.99 Playing with Language - Japanese26.10
Curious George                  37.69 Playing with Language - Spanish 26.10
Curious George Learns the Alphab37.69 Putt Putt Goes to the Moon      46.00
Dinosaur Adventure - Box        57.40 Putt Putt Joins the Parade      58.80
Dinosaur Adventure O.E.M.       27.55 Putt Putt's Fun Pack            35.53
Dinosaur Discovery              34.80 Race the Clock                  42.05
Dinosaur Discovery-- OEM        27.55 Rodney Funscreen                34.80
Dinosaur Safari                 45.68 Science & Innovation-- Mac      53.99
Dinosaur Safari-- Mac           45.68 Scooters Magic Castle           51.00
Dinosaurs                       21.75 Selfish Giant-- Mac             62.99
Discoveries of the Deep         43.49 Shelly Duvall's/Birds Life IBM/M42.05
Distant Suns                    90.00 Solar System                    28.99
Dvorak on Typing                54.99 Space & Astronomy               18.13
Ecoquest                        18.85 Space Shuttle                   23.20
Education Master                17.40 Star Child                      26.10
Educational Gameland            31.90 Sticky Bear Early Learning Fun  36.25
Educational Software Cooperative15.95 Sticky Bear Preschool Advanced  36.25
Electricity & Magnetism         33.35 Tale of Peter Rabbit            31.90
Fatty Bear's Birthday Surprise  51.00 Tale of Peter Rabbit-- Mac      80.00
Fatty Bear's Fun Pack           37.70 Talking Classic Tales           31.90
Goldilocks and the Three BeaSpan42.00 Talking Jungle Safari           31.90
Goldilocks and the Three Bears  42.00 Talking Schoolhouse             42.05
Goldilocks and the Three Bears--42.00 The Educational Disk            27.55
Human Calculator                34.80 The Labyrinth of Time           61.60
Inspector Gadget                47.85 The Selfish Giant               42.05
Interactive Storytime Vol.I     20.30 Typefest                        60.90
Interactive Storytime Vol.II    20.30 US Civics                       27.55
Interactive Storytime Vol.III   36.25 Ugly Duckling (CD-IBM/CD-MAC)   51.00
Just Grandma and Me             46.40 Velveteen Rabbit & Children Clas67.19
Kid Fun                         43.50 Vic Vector & Yondo: Teleforce Ra47.13
Kids Can Read - Aesop's Fables  26.10 Vic Vector&Yondo: Cyberplasm For42.05
Kids Can Read - Cinderella      26.10 Vic Vector&Yondo: Last Dino. Egg42.05
Kids Can Read - Mud Puddle      26.10 Victor Vector&Yondo: Hypnotic Ha42.05
Kids Can Read - Paperbag Princes26.10 Victor Vector&Yondo: Vampire Cof43.50
KidsCanRead-HeatherHitsHer1stHom26.10 Vocabulearn French              47.85
KidsCanRead-LongHardDayAtTheRanc26.10 Vocabulearn Spanish             47.85
KidsCanRead-MovingGivesMeStomach26.10 Vocabulearn Spanish-- Mac       47.85
KidsCanRead-ScaryPoemo\Rotten Ki26.10 Whale of a Tale                 73.00
KidsCanRead-Tale of Peter Rabbit26.10 White Horse Child               25.38
KidsCanRead-TaleofBenjaminBunny 26.10 Wizard of Oz (CD-IBM/CD-MAC)    58.80
KidsCanRead-Thomas's Snowsuit   26.10 World Tales                     44.95
Languages Discovery             27.55 World War II with Blitz Quiz    34.80
Languages of the World          24.65

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From: RICHARD KURTH                          Number: 9315
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/27/93  7:22p
Subj: CD with VB Win SOURCE CO                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for CD that have Visual Basic Source Code on them
can anybody help me.
Richard Kurth

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From: JOHN VAN HARE                          Number: 9316
  To: MAX HILL                                 Date: 12/27/93  1:47p
Subj: Re: BIG SKY ROM                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does every directory contain a files.bbs and what kind of directory structure 
does it have.  I am not fond of multiple directory nesting, just say 50 
directories off the root as in Pier 3 cdrom.  Also what % files are 93's and 
what % dupes would I have running Big Sky 1 or 2 side by side with Pier 3 
(which I am very happy with BTW, as it scanned files.bbs listing from each 
directory right into the rengade file bases, and doesn't even need to copy 
files to hard drive before downloads)
Thanks much, I am sure there others here with the same questions.

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From: RICHARD JOHNSON                        Number: 9317
  To: FREDERICK A. BURGESS                     Date: 12/27/93  4:56p
Subj: CD Rom Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I AM SORRY FOR THAT OK.I DID NOT MEAN TO BE LIKE THAT TO YOU OK DONT
TAKE THAT AS I AM MAD AT OYU FOR THAT.
/S
                                          FROM 
                                          RICHARD JOHNSON OUT HERE IN
LAS VEGAS NV
/S
/S

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From: TERRY WHITEHEAD                        Number: 9318
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/27/93  9:09a
Subj: BBS disc's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>MW>>  >Please let me know if you agree that this is a nominal fee.

LN>MW>> Well it depends...considering that there is at least one other
LN>MW>> supplier of  quality scans and they are not charging a per node fee
LN>Lions Den will *NEVER* charge a node fee, and the charging of
LN>a node fee, is not the way the industry is going.
I have returned discs with ANY kind of fee attatched to it. I run a bbs with 6
cd roms on it and will not charge for access, several have tried and failed.
<snicker> Thanks Lee for standing tall  :)
Can I get a current catalog?
5695 N. Colony
The Colony, TX
75056


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From: STEVE NAGREM                           Number: 9319
  To: SHANNON ADAMS                            Date: 12/26/93  9:43a
Subj: CD's FOR TRADE/SALE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

===========================================================================
Packet: FORUM
Date: 12-22-93 (22:02)             Number: 2904
From: SHANNON ADAMS                Refer#: NONE
  To: ALL                           Recvd: NO
Subj: CD's FOR TRADE/SALE            Conf: (307) CDRomSale(
SA-> I have the following CD's for trade or sale.

SA-> 1993 Guinness Multimedia Disc of Records
 How much for this one??

SA-> Civilization/Mantis

SA-> Sierra's Sneek Peeks

SA-> Where in the World is Carmen San Diego - Deluxe

SA-> 20th Century Video Almanac

SA-> I am looking for:  7th Guest, Microsoft Cinemania, or anything similar.

SA-> Make an offer.
SA-> ---
SA->  þ SLMR 2.1a þ hAS ANYONE SEEN MY cAPSLOCK KEY?


SA-> ---
SA->  * Origin: Exec-PC BBS > World's Largest BBS < (1:154/280)
---
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 9320
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/27/93 10:11a
Subj: Netmail                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Happy Holidays, Lee! Didja get my netmail message?

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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 9321
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/27/93 11:54a
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a new Mitsumi single speed internal CD ROM drive. In the box with
all docs and controller card.

$155 shipped. COD $5 extra. Pretty firm.

Ron
813-978-0527


 * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * America Held Hostage: Day 338 of the Socialist Takeover!


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From: THOMAS WILSON                          Number: 9322
  To: GEORGE CORDOVA                           Date: 12/26/93 11:10p
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ha George, I picked up one that have up to 1985 - 1990 shareware I spoke to the
sales people and the told me that they up date the CD-ROMS as needed!

The disk I have is called (SHAREWARE OVERLOAD) from Chestnut, the Voive phone
number is 617-864-8326 or drop them a not at !
Chestnut CD-ROM
P.O. Box 360
Cambridge, MA. 02141-0004
This disk has over 2100 games, over 600 database files to name a few!!!!!!!!!!!
Hope this will help







Computer Wizard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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From: DAVID MEYER                            Number: 9323
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 12/26/93  4:37p
Subj: !free cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR-> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
  -> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
  -> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
  -> We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.


I would appreciate a copy of your catalog. My address is:

                           David Meyer
                           119 Country Lane
                           Belmont, NC 28012-8722

Thank you very much.......          David
===
 * QMPro 1.51 * Weren't you one of the little people?  Q


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From: SHAUN WATSON                           Number: 9324
  To: SCOTT BRIGADE                            Date: 12/27/93  1:42p
Subj: Night owl 10.1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On <23 Dec, 16:12>, Scott Brigade wrote to Boris Osadciw :

SB>  ->                      N I G H T  O W L  10.1
SB>
SB>  What are the differences between 10 and 10.1?
SB>

NightOwl 10.0 had 2 (BUTTERFLY) viruses in it..  10.1 is an update that has no
viruses yet reported...

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From: JOE PYE                                Number: 9325
  To: DANNY TSENG                              Date: 12/27/93  5:11p
Subj: OS/2 CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Danny!

25 Dec 93 05:19, Danny Tseng wrote to Joe Pye:

 JP>> The Hobbs OS/2 CDRom was just released in October of
 JP>> this year.  Have it here
 JP>> on my bbs, very easy to install, and full of stuff.
 DT>         Does it have many stuff for OS/2 2.1? or just lots of PD
 DT> for OS/1.x and 2.0?
Well, there are some 16 bit apps that are compatible with 1.x, but the majority
is 2.x, there is little difference between 2.0 and 2.1 programs, the drivers
section is comprised of mostly 2.1 (mostly because I haven't seen every driver,
as far as I know they are all 2.1)
Joe

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 9326
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/27/93  9:22p
Subj: Busty Babes II                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

In a message to Stephane Seguin <on 12-19-93> Mike Shannon said:

SS>  Anyone in here s**t to canada *FROM CANADA* ???   I hate having
SS> these "XXX" stuff cross the border...

 MS> Ya, I hear ya.  Why pay for imported s**t when the domestic stuff
 MS> is less expensive, and fresher too!  <gd&r>

If you could s**t to Canada, I'll bet you could get a guest shot on David
Letterman, even!!

 * MKRead v1.04 * For Sale: Rottweiler. Eats anything, fond of children....


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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 9327
  To: JEAN-LOUIS BONTRONT                      Date: 12/27/93 10:01a
Subj: ASIMOV CD                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> >Is there any such thing as a "Complete Asimov" CD collection of his
-> sci-fi >writings?
There is only a "Complete Robot" collection to my knowledge.
  Vince
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From: ADRIAN VERGOT                          Number: 9328
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/26/93  9:10p
Subj: Custom CD-ROM $75 !                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM? 
 
CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your proprietary DOS or Windows
files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and Affordable.
All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information
(600+ Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (other
formats considered on a case by case basis) and we will directly
transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any
ISO compliant CD-ROM drive (just about every one made today!)
 
- Confidentiality is assured
- $75 per CD-ROM (mention this add)
- additional copies only $50 each
- Turn around time is about 2 days
- BBS Sysops call for rates
- We accept money orders and cashiers checks
- Pesonal Check orders will be shipped when check clears bank
 
If interested, call (412) 942-4694 and ask for Adrian 
Auto Fax (412) 942-4694
 
Make checks payable to : Adrian Vergot
                         108 Shady Lane
                         McMurray, PA  15317
 
Enclose a signed copy of the following disclaimer with your order:
 
DUE TO THE BULK NATURE OF THIS SERVICE, CD-ROM CREATIONS (c) DOES
NOT AND CAN NOT CENSOR AND DETERMINE THE NATURE OF THE MATERIEL
THAT THE CUSTOMER IS PROVIDING.  IT IS THEREFORE THE SOLE
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER TO ENSURE THAT NO COPYRIGHT
VIOLATIONS EXIST IN PLACING THE DATA ONTO CD-ROM
                      Signed ______________________________
                                     Your Signature

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From: JON PERSKY                             Number: 9329
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/27/93  7:27p
Subj: Shareware CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can anyone lead me toward some quality shareware CD's for my BBS? My ideal goal
is to have one general shareware CD, one games-oriented CD, and one
Windows-oriented CD. FILES.BBS is a MUST and I would prefer that the files be
relatively recent (mostly 1993, a few '92s are ok). And I don't want to spend
more than $100 for all three. If anybody can point me in the right direction,
even if all my specs don't match, please get back to me.

Thanks!
Jon 8^D

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From: JEFF WATSON                            Number: 9330
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 12/27/93  9:21p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Send me one please......

Jeff Watson
HC 69 Box 2E
Middlebourne, WV 26149


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From: TOM HUBER                              Number: 9331
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 12/27/93  3:27p
Subj: CD pricing and royalties                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Doug, the per node licensing fee is $25.00.  The same fee is
 > appplicable to each node.

 > The photographers were not willing to allow their images to be
 > distributed without compensation.  We came up with $25.00 per node,

 > Please let me know if you agree that this is a nominal fee.

I for one, do not agree with the fee per node, since it isn't a scale-type of
arrangement. If you look at networking software, which is similar in that the
developers want to be adequately compensated, then the flat fee per node is
unusual, though not unique.

Usually, networking software sells initially for a high price, and each
additional user (from a minimal amount) is sold at a lower price.

Multiple nodes on a bbs are essentially the same as multiple users on a network
(a multi-node bbs runs on a network). I would have thought that you would ask
$50 - $75 for the first node and then $15 for each additional node up to five,
$12 up to ten, and $10 each thereafter.

But, I don't know what your production costs, versus royalties, are like. Your
current pricing doesn't make a lot of sense. I would have thought you would
have done something that would balance out the initial production costs better,
then work in the royalties afterwards.

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From: TOM PARADISO                           Number: 9332
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 12/27/93  9:28a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Joe Rinehart to All <=-

 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
 JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
 JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
 JR> We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
 JR> CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
 JR> Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
 JR> FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
 JR> Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
 JR> P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-GIGO(4446) ZyX
 JR> Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

 JR> -!- MsgToss 2.0c
 JR>  ! Origin: "If you can't find it, call config.sys!" 216-296-4446
 JR> (1:157/479) 

  Please send a copy to me, Thanks Happy Holidays.
  Thomas S. Paradiso
  PSC #2 Box 1354
  APO AA 34002
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From: MIKE HILL                              Number: 9333
  To: STEVE KRAISLER                           Date: 12/27/93 12:16p
Subj: Re: 7th Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Steve Kraisler to All <=-

 SK> Well, I've finished 7th Guest and rather than let it sit on the shelf
 SK> and gather dust I'm looking to give it a new home.  If you would like
 SK> to adopt a lonely cd-rom just come up with 30 bucks.  Included is two
 SK> manuals and for 3 bucks more I'll throw in a disk with hints and a
 SK> walkthru.  First loving home gets it.

    Steve,
      If you've still got it, I'll take it, along with the hints disk.
      Call me at 919-725-3938 or if you want send COD to:

               3346 Linda Circle
               Winston-Salem, NC 27106

                                        Mike


... Tag line thievery ... On the next Geraldo!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: WESLEY CHEW                            Number: 9334
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/28/93  2:41p
Subj: FUSION16 SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MediaVision Fusion16 MPC Upgrade Kit for Sale 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The following items are bundle with the upgrade kit :-

1. Sony CD-31A (Kodak CD compatible, built in tray).
2. MediaVision Pro-Audio 16 sound board.

Used only for 1.5 months. With original (unmailed) warranty card. I will 
bundle with the following CD-ROM :-

1. Campton's Interactive Encyclopedia (MPC Microsoft Window 3.1 version)
2. Deep River's Adventure (Microsoft Window 3.1 compatible)
3. Interplay's Battle Chess (MPC Window 3.1 compatible)
4. Virgin's 7th Guest (DOS version)

The price? Very reasonable! $298 (software alone cost more than $250!) Anyone
want to swap my Corel Draw 3.0 ?  I can be contacted at
Phone    : (405) 359-1259
Internet : wesley.chew@oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu

Wes
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From: ROBERT BROOKS                          Number: 9335
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 12/28/93 12:39a
Subj: !FREE CD CATALOG!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
  >For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
  >If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.

Please send me your catalog:

Robert Brooks
P.O. Box 12413
Toledo, OH  43606

Thank you.
                              
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From: RON YOUNG                              Number: 9336
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/28/93  3:44p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom & Disks                      Refer: NONE
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In a message dated 26-Dec-93 00:07:07, Boris Osadciw wrote:

 BO> If you'd like, your welcome to request our catalog via our Fidonet
 BO> address. You may request it via the Magic name of "CCI or CCI.ZIP"

Do you have a file to FREQ for the Adult CD's?

Ron Young

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 9337
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/18/93  7:03p
Subj: C/C++ Shareware CD-ROM                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the 7th edition of
its C/C++ CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The December 1993 CD-ROM has
1090 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 137,000 record PC products database. Voice:+1(301)924-3594,
Fax:+1(301)963-2708.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 9338
  To: DANNY TSENG                              Date: 12/21/93  1:44p
Subj: OS/2 CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to ALL, Danny Tseng said:
 DT>  Hello ALL!

 DT>     I'm looking for a CD which has collected the newest
 DT> shareware for OS/2 2.1.
 DT> Could anyone give me some suggestion?

 DT> -Danny : YXT0376@vaxa.isc.rit.edu

 DT> --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1114
 DT>  * Origin: Totoro CBCS * Chinese-BBS *  USR 16.8k DS -
 DT> (1:2613/472)
The most recent shareware collection of OS/2 files is from EMS Professional
Shareware (latest files from last week of November). It's a 2 CD-ROM set for
$59.50. They can be reached at voice:+1(301)924-3594 Fax:+1(301)963-2708. They
update every two months to stay current.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 9339
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/21/93  1:45p
Subj: ASM code on CD-ROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the 7th edition of
its Assembler CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The December 1993 CD-ROM has
431 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 137,000 record PC products database. Voice:+1(301)924-3594,
Fax:+1(301)963-2708.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 9340
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/23/93  6:56p
Subj: TurboPascal Shareware CD-ROM            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the 7th edition of
its TurboPascal CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a
dump of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The December 1993 CD-ROM has
791 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 137,000 record PC products database. Voice:+1(301)924-3594,
Fax:+1(301)963-2708.
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 9341
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 12/28/93  9:57p
Subj: cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JJ>PC Karaoke 20.00
JJ>Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego 20.00

   $25 for the pair is offered.
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 9342
  To: CLINT SAVAGE                             Date: 12/28/93 10:10p
Subj: MS BK SHELF 1991?                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS>Sir; Are selling the Microsoft Book Shelf 1991 Version (probably #2?)
CS>I am interested in the 91 version. What are you asking?

   It is the 1991 edition and I would like $25 for it plus $2.90
for shipping. I think that is a pretty good price. The only reason
that I am selling it so cheap is that I have two of them. I love my
copy and find it to be most useful. If you would like to have it please
let me know here so that I can put it aside for you and send payment to
me at the address below. If not let me know that too.


CD-ROMS for Sale

Software Options CD from IBM ...................  $13
The World Factbook - DOS .......................  $13
Calculus (Anton) 1st 3 chapters ................  $20
Loom ...........................................  $22
Q&A 4.0 from Symantec ..........................  $39
Tax-Prep 1993 ..................................  $12
CD-ROM Premier .................................  $12
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $14
PC Globe, PC USA and Automap ...................  $22
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $59
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $ 9
PC Sig Library 9th edition .....................  $11
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $14
Sneek Peeks from Sierra ........................  $13
Corel Art Show 3 with large Book ...............  $22
Phoenix-CD Version 3.0 .........................  $12
Chessmaster 3000 ...............................  $24
Groliers Encyclopedia ..........................  $33

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ I tried to drown my problems but they can swim!


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 9343
  To: TIM SCHOOLER                             Date: 12/28/93 10:14p
Subj: Cinemania                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TS>Microsoft Cinemania, multimedia edition for Windows. Over 19,000 movie

TS>                                35.00

   What year and would you take a bit less?
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 9344
  To: MIKE GERARDI                             Date: 12/28/93 10:15p
Subj: Street atlas cd-rom                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG>DeLorme Street Atlas USA on CD ROM

MG>        Asking $50.00 and I pay the shipping.  NO COD's

   How about $25 or a trade?


CD-ROMS for Sale

Software Options CD from IBM ...................  $13
The World Factbook - DOS .......................  $13
Calculus (Anton) 1st 3 chapters ................  $20
Loom ...........................................  $22
Q&A 4.0 from Symantec ..........................  $39
Tax-Prep 1993 ..................................  $12
CD-ROM Premier .................................  $12
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $14
PC Globe, PC USA and Automap ...................  $22
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $59
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $ 9
PC Sig Library 9th edition .....................  $11
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $14
Sneek Peeks from Sierra ........................  $13
Corel Art Show 3 with large Book ...............  $22
Phoenix-CD Version 3.0 .........................  $12
Chessmaster 3000 ...............................  $24
Groliers Encyclopedia ..........................  $33

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 9345
  To: EDDIE IMPERIAL                           Date: 12/28/93 10:17p
Subj: CD'S WANTED!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EI>Other Good Quality Disks considered!

CD-ROMS for Sale

Software Options CD from IBM ...................  $13
The World Factbook - DOS .......................  $13
Calculus (Anton) 1st 3 chapters ................  $20
Loom ...........................................  $22
Q&A 4.0 from Symantec ..........................  $39
Tax-Prep 1993 ..................................  $12
CD-ROM Premier .................................  $12
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $14
PC Globe, PC USA and Automap ...................  $22
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $59
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $ 9
PC Sig Library 9th edition .....................  $11
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $14
Sneek Peeks from Sierra ........................  $13
Corel Art Show 3 with large Book ...............  $22
Phoenix-CD Version 3.0 .........................  $12
Chessmaster 3000 ...............................  $24
Groliers Encyclopedia ..........................  $33

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 9346
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 12/28/93 10:19p
Subj: Carmen San Diego for sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JJ>It's the CD and instruction booklet. It was bundled software

   How about $15 including shipping?

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
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From: DAVID FORD                             Number: 9347
  To: JIM KEULER                               Date: 12/23/93  8:19p
Subj: Re: Frobidden Subjects                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I saw it in an ad in computer shopper.  It's Profit Press in Tucson, Arizona at
1800-843-7990.  I haven't ordered it yet myself but would sure like to know
what's on it.  later.

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From: TIM SHEEHAN                            Number: 9348
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/26/93  8:22p
Subj: CD for sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego Deluxe version for sale in CD-ROM. This 
is a very good game especially for kids ages 10-14.  It's brand new, 
unopened, I'm selling it because I already have it. ASking $30 + shipping. 
Reply in this echo. Thanks.
-Tim Sheehan

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From: KEVIN OYAMA                            Number: 9349
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/27/93  6:13p
Subj: Busty Babes Vol. 1 ver. 1               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
For the last time, what is it that distinguishes the first version of Vol.1 of
Busty Babes?!  I have heard it's the Bam-Bam logo on the back cover, and others
say it is a few scans; could someone help me determine the real clue?!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9350
  To: KEITH KENNEDY                            Date: 12/27/93  3:40p
Subj: SHAREWARE CD 4-PAK: $49                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KK>Can you ship to South Africa

Sure can.....do it all the time.  Insured Airmail ususally runs about $13
for the first pound, and $6 for each additional pound.

Later,
.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9351
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 12/27/93  3:40p
Subj: CENSORSHIP                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG> DR> gonna tell ya here.  I'll tell ya on the phone) ;-)

MG>GRrrrrrrr.............  O.K. Shannon let us know when Dave calls so
MG>that I can call you and get the details.  Talk about a sucker punch!

He still hasn't told me!


 * SLMR 2.1a * My computer's down. Can someone send it flowers?

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9352
  To: JOYCE ZWEEDYK                            Date: 12/27/93  3:40p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD PRICES 3/3                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JZ>> JZ>  >  Grolier's MPC Ency 6.0 (New!).45.00    Street Atlas USA
JZ>> On the whole, I think it's a nice product, but the Compton's
JZ>> Interactive is
JZ>> still my personal favorite.

JZ>How much is the Compton's?  And do you carry it?

We have the Compton's Interactive in stock at $89 + $4 s/h.

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * ... A fool and his money soon become a Sysop!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9353
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/27/93  3:40p
Subj: NEWEST SHAREWARE CD!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |     Title:  CD POWERBOX 2     |  |   Price:  $29   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

      ** IT'S HERE! **  And be sure to check our great bonus paks below!
      ** BBS file support for Spitfire, PCBoard, Wildcat and others!

      The newest BBS-ready shareware CD on the market has arrived!
      CD Powerbox 2.00 is a shareware disc featuring 600 Megs worth
      of brand new, PURE 1993 shareware files, with one HUGE difference!
      It contains Damar's new UNVIVERSAL INTERFACE or UI.  The UI offers
      the ability to manage most or all of your shareware CD's, without
      the hassle of always changing interfaces!  Here are some of its
      outstanding and unique features............................

      * Automatic installation of shareware disks
      * Support for over 15 different disks
      * New titles being added constantly!
      * Add or Remove titles with the click of the mouse button
      * Windows or DOS-based with Rich context-sensitive online help
      * Windows interface supports voice commands!
      * Quick and easy search feature to find specific programs
      * Copy an archive to your hard drive or install it directly off a CD!
      * View inside an archive right off the ROM!

      The UI is a commercial program and is NOT considered shareware.
      There is no cost for the UI when purchased with any of the Damar
      Enterprises CD-ROM products!

      The % of dupes between PowerBox2 and NOWL10 = 7.94% * PIER3 = 12.85%

 File dates.....    1993  File   %    Apx 'K'    %
                    ====  ==== =====  ======== =====
                       1   362  6.7%    24,601  4.1%   +------------------+
                       2   435  8.0%    33,095  5.5%   | Over 500 more    |
+------------------+   3   661 12.2%    53,387  8.8%   | files than Night |
| File listing     |   4   371  6.8%    33,852  5.6%   | Owl 10!          |
| available on the |   5   245  4.5%    22,427  3.7%   +------------------+
| Starvector BBS:  |   6    93  1.7%    10,369  1.7%
| 509-457-0206     |   7   852 15.7%   116,232 19.3%
+------------------+   8 2,162 39.7%   283,195 46.9%
                       9    24  0.4%     2,431  0.4%
                      10    67  1.2%    11,283  1.9%
                      11    76  1.4%     8,997  1.5%
                      12     0  0.0%         0  0.0%

 SPECIAL BONUS PAKS:
 -------------------
 1. CD Powerbox 2 + CD Powerbox 1.01 (no dupes!)........................$35
 2. CD Powerbox 2 + CD Winbox 1.01......................................$45
 3. CD Powerbox 2 + OS/2Box.............................................$45
 SUPER SPECIAL: ALL FOUR DISCS (Powerbox 1 & 2, OS/2Box, and Winbox)....$55

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * Picard and Riker in '96!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9354
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/27/93  3:40p
Subj: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #5: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS   |
         |________________________________________________________|


   1. Games Collection     2. CD Winbox           3. Busty Babes vol 2
      Games 1993              Windows Collection     Digital Dreams
      Game Arena              Dr. Windows            Amateur Models
      ----------              -----------            --------------
      $59                     $59                    $79


   4. Digital Dreams 1     5. Ham Radio 3.0       6. Pier 2
      Digital Dreams 2        Hamware 1993           Pier 3
      ----------------        ------------           ------
      $54                     $31                    $49


   7. Software Vault 1     8. Clipart Galore      9. Shareware '93 vol 2
      Software Vault 2        Clipart Heaven         Pier 3
      Software Vault Gold     Ency. of Clipart       Software Vault Gold
      -------------------     ----------------       -------------------
      $57                     $59                    $69


  10. CD Winbox           11. Giga Games         12. OS/2Box
      Windows 93              Game Arena             Hobbes OS/2
      ----------              ----------             -----------
      $44                     $35                    $39


  13. CD Powerbox 2       14. OS/2Box           15. Shareware Online 1
      CD Powerbox 1           CD Powerbox 1         Shareware Online 2
      CD Winbox               CD Winbox             So Much Shareware 3
      ---------               ---------             -------------------
      $49                     $49                   $69

PLUS, AN ADDED BONUS . . . . .

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * If at first you don't succeed, call it Night Owl 10.0

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From: SCOTT PARKS                            Number: 9355
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/27/93 10:02a
Subj: Re: Project Guttenberg                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris Osadciw wrote in a message to Scott Parks:

BO> On 21 Dec 93 11:02am, Scott Parks wrote to All:

>>    The Oxford Text Library seems to be not the same as Project 
>>    Guttenberg so if anyone has information on obtaining 
>>    either/both of these collections on CD it would be greatly 
>>    appreciated. 

BO> Have them both in stock !
BO> Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll
BO> be happy to help you out.

Do you have release dates and names of these.  I've never heard that the Oxford
Text Library (not Ox. Reference Lib.) has actually been published except their
stated hopes from their Internet catalogs. It is a collection of mostly rare
(public domain) older prose/poetry.

Notice you also have Chestnut CD's ... do you have a list?   They are generally
terrible quality but have a few good things on them

Thanks
sparks@helix.eskimo.com

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From: MATTHEW LYNCH                          Number: 9356
  To: JOE HEUGLY                               Date: 12/28/93  4:46p
Subj: Anyone got a....                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello JOE!

22 Dec 93 17:35, JOE HEUGLY wrote to MATTHEW LYNCH:


 ML>> Hey out there....  Does anyone have a Battle Chess Enhanced CD or a
 ML>> Chess Master 3000 (or National Lampoon's Chess Master 5
 ML>> Billion, for that matter)

 JH> Hi Matthew,
 JH> I have the Battle Chess Enhanced CD-ROM, with box and all paperwork
 JH> except the registration card.  I didn't see your original message, just
 JH> this portion in a follow-up.  Are you looking to buy or trade?

I'm looking to buy...  What kind of a price can you give me on it?

-=[Matthew]=-  (The X Frontiers)

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From: ADAM BRIAND                            Number: 9357
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 12/27/93  2:53p
Subj: 24 bit true color cards                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   > ET - 4000 1M                                    $79.00    
   >  
   > There are also many cards that are over $100.00.   
   >
   > Let me know if you are interested.  Also prices are subject
   > to change (usually cheaper but not always).
   >
   > Please call me voice at 407-831-3011 to order.
   >
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   >
I might be interested in the above card.  Is it a Tseung and does it come
with VESA and true color Windows drivers?  Also, how about throwing in a
copy SB for $20 more?

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From: ADAM BRIAND                            Number: 9358
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 12/27/93  6:45p
Subj: Amateur Models CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN | I have the new Amateur Models cd disc for sale or trade.  This disc is    
   | new and unopened (shrink wrapped).  Contains gifs and tiffs pictures  
   | similiar to the 'Girl Next Door' type photos.   
   |
   | Randy Neuner
   |
   |
How about a trade for a used copy of Animation Fantasies 2?  It contains
over 100 adult DLs and FLIs.

___
 X JABBER v1.1 X Another case of Cherry Coke down the programming hatch!

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From: RICK PEDLEY                            Number: 9359
  To: JAY TAYLOR                               Date: 12/28/93 11:25a
Subj: Battle chess enh                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@> 1:282/108

Hi Jay, I'm ready to buy that now if you still have it; I just sold the other
one. Leave an address and I'll send an MO in $US for $25. I'm at:

95 Notch Hill Road, #306
Kingston, ON  K7M 5Y6
Canada

Rick

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From: DOUG THRUSH                            Number: 9360
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 12/27/93  6:22p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
JR>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
JR>If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
JR>We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.

Please send me a copy of this catalog!

I am currently looking for an educational CD to help me learn to speak 
Spanish - any advise!

I would like CDLIST file attach's

Doug Thrush
PO Box 620327
Ft Rucker, AL 36362

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From: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                       Number: 9361
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/27/93 11:20p
Subj: Garage Sale (or Trade)...               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Things available for sale:

Borland's Paradox for Windows 1.0 Database Program NEW
Borland's dBase IV for DOS 2.0 Database Program NEW
LANtastic/AI Software for Clone LAN cards Complete
Windows for Workgroups NEW

IBM/Lexmark LASER Printer 4019 with PostScript Option & 2 Meg Upgrade
NEC SCSI External CD Rom with Dos drivers
LANtastic Central Station
14.4/14.4 v32bis Boca internal modem and fax complete
9600/14.4 DallasFax internal modem and fax
14.4/14.4 v32bis Hayes Optima External modem and fax
NE2000 SMC clone LAN cards
HiSketch 1212 draft tablet with pen and puck NEW
40 Meg SCSI Conner HD CP3040
SONY/BSR External CD Rom IDE with card and DOS Drivers
Network cables of various lengths, T connectors, and terminators
Okidata u92 9 pin printer
Toshiba External SCSI CD Rom
IBM/Maxtor 212 IDE Hard Drive
Seagate 243 IDE Hard Drive
Conner 130 Hard Drive

SEGA Genesis console with 2 controllers and following games:

Whip Rush              Thunder Force III
Wings of WOR           Sonic the Hedgehog
Shadow Blasters        (Stereo adaptor included)


Respond to address below via netmail, here in this echo, BBS at (716)652-8438,
Voice/Msg (716)652-3913.

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From: JEAN-LOUIS BONTRONT                    Number: 9362
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/27/93 10:39a
Subj: Education Master, volume 2.             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

A few weeks ago, I ordered education master 2.  I haven't received the
CD yet, nor has my VISA accounted been debited for the CD.  Would the
person responsible for orders please respond and let me know how long I
can expect to wait?

JLB

... A dork by any other name is still a dork .
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From: AL AGEE                                Number: 9363
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/26/93 12:02p
Subj: Custom cds                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   ************  PRICE REDUCTION  ************

   - Is your hard drive full?
   - Tired of waiting on that slow tape drive?
   - Lost under a mountain of floppies?

                   Make your own CD-ROM!

Put 600+ Megabytes of your proprietary data on a ISO 9660 standard CD for $89. 
Additional copies are only $69 each.

Send 600 MB of PC data on DC-2120 QIC-40 or QIC-80 tapes (Used by Colorado
Memory Systems tape drives). I will transfer your data to an ISO standard CD
and have it on its way back to you, usually within two days.

Perfect for a BBS SYSOP who is out of hard drive space. Distribute the
company's archived data to all offices. Programmers: Save high setup cost of CD
Mastering houses.

    - Safe. A virus can't attack files on a CD.
    - Secure. Once the data is on the CD, it can't be changed.
    - Inexpensive. CD backup costs as little as tape. Floppies
      cost more than the CD drive and tape drive combined!
    - Convenient.  No more swapping tapes and searching through
      floppies.
    - Compatible. Works under Windows or DOS. Share it on a LAN.
    - Fast.  Newer triple speed drives read at up to
      450K/sec...three times the speed of a floppy.  Eight times
      the speed of a tape.

Ship QIC-40 or QIC-80 tapes and cashier's check or money order for $89 ($69 for
second copy) + $5 shipping to:

        Allen Agee
        52 Sleepy Hollow Road
        Andover, New Jersey  07821-5000
        (201)786-7716
                          - the fine print - Personal checks must clear the
bank before the order is shipped.  I don't have time to censor you.  You are
responsible to ensure putting your data on CD does not break any laws or
copyright licenses.
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From: MARTIN YEE                             Number: 9364
  To: JIM HILGEFORD                            Date: 12/27/93  3:54p
Subj: Cd disks for sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JH> AK> Arthur's Teacher Trouble
JH>        I would be interested in Arthur's Teacher Trouble for my Grand Hi
Jim,
   If your deal does not go through with A.K., I have Arthur's Teacher
   Trouble MPC CDROM for sale. My copy was bundled with
   hardware, so there is no big box or book with it, just CDROM & case
   - this might be the same with A.K. version. I'll let it go for $23.00
   shipped. I also have Macmillan Dictionary for Children MPC CDROM -
   same price & no box too.
   If you want either one leave me a note to hold it for you.

Martin Yee
538 Baker Street
San Francisco, CA  94117
ph: 415 923-9893 (9am-12pm or 7pm-9pm PST)
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From: BOB MONTGOMERY                         Number: 9365
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/28/93  6:37p
Subj: Montgomery vs Noga et al                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BM>> In a message to Lee Noga <12-28-93 11:43> David Vangelder 
BM>> wrote:

BM>> DV>> In a message to David Vangelder <12-19-93 14:10> Lee
BM>> DV>> Noga wrote:

BM>> DV>> LN>> In a message to Lee Noga <12-17-93 14:21> David
BM>> DV>> LN>> Vangelder wrote:

BM>> DV>> LN>> DV>> In regard to my activity in writing to you
BM>> DV>> LN>> DV>> asking for damages, being present during
BM>> DV>> LN>> DV>> your deposition, and collaborating with the
BM>> DV>> LN>> DV>> attorney in court; I am the VPIC licensing
BM>> DV>> LN>> DV>> agent and was acting in that capacity.

BM>> DV>> LN>> Oh really, VPIC, INC. does not hold the copyright,
BM>> DV>> LN>> Bob Montgomery does, therefore your involvement
BM>> DV>> LN>> in the suit, is one of interest and not one of
BM>> DV>> LN>> necessity.

BM>> DV>> LN>> DV>> It is interesting to me, what you would like
BM>> DV>> LN>> DV>> to imply to the people who read this echo.
BM>> DV>> LN>> DV>> From what you say, it would appear that you
BM>> DV>> LN>> DV>> prevailed in the case.

BM>> DV>> LN>> Did the judge grant you what you asked for ? Both
BM>> DV>> LN>> requests were *SHOT* down. So, let's just say, we
BM>> DV>> LN>> faired quite well.

BM>> DV>> LN>> DV>> Didn't you get a copy of the Judge's order?

BM>> DV>> LN>> Yup. That's when we broke out the bottle of
BM>> DV>> LN>> champagne. Didn't want to celebrate prematurely.

BM>> DV>> LN>> DV>> said, "Defendants Rebecca Noga and Florida
BM>> DV>> LN>> DV>> Lion's Den

BM>> DV>> LN>> Just a little update--Its Bob Montgomery vs Rebecca
BM>> DV>> LN>> Noga & Florida Lions Den vs Blaine R. Richard III.
BM>> DV>> LN>> Is this not your business partner that has been
BM>> DV>> LN>> recently added to the suit ?


DV>> Mr. Montgomery will be posting a message to ALL discussing 
DV>> this topic and what you have to say in this post.  Please 
DV>> refer to that!

DV>> Unless you have a correction to my post of October 31, 1993,
DV>> I neither have the time nor the inclination to continue 
DV>> interfacing with you on this subject.  


The following is a brief summary of my lawsuit against The Florida
Lion's Den (and it's only stockholder, Ms. Lee Noga), hereafter 
referred to as FLD.  I am the author of the VPIC program. FLD is 
responsible for publishing the following CDROMs which used my VPIC
program as a utility for viewing pictures contained on the discs. 

1. Ecstacy Hot Pics - consists mainly of adult pictures.  First 
   pressing in August, 1992.  Second pressing in February, 1993.
2. Busty Babes - consists mainly of adult pictures.  First pressing 
   in December, 1992. Second pressing in February, 1993.  Third 
   pressing in July, 1993.
3. PowerPak Gold - consists mainly of shareware.  First pressing 
   in February, 1993.
4. Encyclopedia of Clipart - consists mainly of clipart pictures. 
   First pressing in May, 1993.

I was granted a US Copyright for VPIC on August 8, 1990, which 
was 2 years before the Ecstacy Hot Pics CD was released.  The VPIC 
program contains a copyright notice screen which comes up each 
time you quit the program.  It states that if you use VPIC you 
should register it.  It is also required to obtain a Utility
License agreement for it's use on any product.  FLD knew that
the program was copyrighted, required registration and a licensing 
agreement.  FLD never registered VPIC nor licensed it for use 
on their products.

By my estimation and based on statements made by Ms. Noga, FLD 
sold a total of about 55,000 CD's which used VPIC to view the 
images, and made an estimated $600,000 before expenses.  We are 
talking about a lot of money being made, by 'stealing' other 
peoples work.  It's like finding a car with the keys in it (the 
VPIC shareware is not crippled in any way), and driving away and 
assuming you now own it and can use it whenever you like.

The VPIC program has a mechanism built in to allow another 
application to call it with a filename, and VPIC will display the 
file and then return to the calling application without changing 
the screen or printing any messages.  This essentially adds graphics
capability to other programs that can't normally do graphics, such 
as databases.  This is the feature that FLD used.  The CDROM user 
would not even know that VPIC was being used.  This would lead the 
user to assume that FLD either owned or had rights to the viewing
mechanism.

The lawsuit has gotten as far as a preliminary injunction ordering
FLD to: 

1. Stop using VPIC in their products.
2. Post a BBS message advising users that the infringing products 
   were produced without a license.
3. Advise infringing product users, sellers, and distributors that 
   these products are subject to payment of a licensing fee to me.

Apparently Ms. Noga considers this a victory for her cause, 
whatever that may be.  She mentioned on this echo that she broke 
out the bottle of champagne to celebrate, when she received the 
judge's order.  What it really means is (in the judge's words): 

1. There is a substantial likelihood that I will prevail on the 
   merits.
2. There is a substantial threat that I will suffer irreparable 
   damages if the preliminary injunction is not granted.
3. That the threatened injury outweighs the threatened harm the 
   preliminary injunction may do to the defendant.
4. That granting the preliminary injunction will not disserve the 
   public interest.
The next step will be to schedule a jury trial for determining
the amount the defendants owe me.

FLD does not deny that they used the VPIC software illegally 
(without registering, licensing, or paying royalties) on their
CDROM's, so what are they celebrating?  Do they hope to get away 
with using my program without paying for it's use?

I retained the services of Mr. David van Gelder to negotiate the 
licensing of VPIC.  Mr. van Gelder is very knowledgable about
business matters, negotiations, and understands the costs and
potential profits involved in CDROM publishing.  He wrote a
certified letter to FLD stating that they had used VPIC illegally,
and requested payment for it's use, or we would take further action.
Mr. van Gelder also requested that any response be in writing and
sent by certified mail.  We requested that she respond in writing so
that there would be no disputing what was said.  Ms. Noga contacted
me by telephone and I told her I would get back to her.  I then got
together with Mr. van Gelder, and called to advise her to respond to
the letter by certified mail, as requested.  Ms. Noga continued
discussing the letter with me, so I handed the phone to Mr. van
Gelder who informed her to please respond by certified mail.  Ms.
Noga told Mr. van Gelder that her attorney advised her not to
respond to the letter.  Mr. van Gelder told her that she should do
whatever her attorney advised, and said goodbye.  We received no
response, and the distribution of CDROM products with VPIC continued
unabated.  Thus, to protect future business, I was forced to sue FLD


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From: BOB MONTGOMERY                         Number: 9366
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/28/93  6:37p
Subj: Montgomery vs Noga et al                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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                     >> Continued from previous message <<


thru the legal system.  If FLD gets away without paying any royalty
payments, everyone will assume that they can do it too.

Ms. Noga also keeps trying to muddy the waters by bringing up the
fact that Mr. van Gelder wrote her as VPIC's licensing agent and 
that the copyright is held by me personally.  VPIC Inc. is a 
subchapter S corporation formed solely for income tax purposes.  
VPIC is the name of the program and Mr. van Gelder negotiates it's
licensing or lack thereof.

Ms. Noga sued Blaine Richard as a "third party defendant".  Mr.
Richard was an employee of FLD responsible for the technical aspects
of production, while Ms. Noga was responsible for handling the
business affairs, which includes licensing and royalty negotiations.
Mr. Richard was fired by FLD around the end of April, 1993, for
including copyrighted material on the Busty Babes disc.  But, the
Encyclopedia of Clipart disc (containing VPIC) was pressed after Mr.
Richard's termination.

Hopefully, the judge's issuance of an injunction will serve as a
warning to others that copyright infringement is serious and will
not go unpunished.
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From: TOM JORGENSON                          Number: 9367
  To: KORENE CLARK                             Date: 12/28/93  9:38a
Subj: Re: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New Release    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (26 Dec 93) Korene Clark wrote to David Vangelder...

 KC> As a Sysop of an adult board with 10 lines I am not about to buy a
 KC> disc and then have to pay an additional $250 for that "honor." 

I fail to see why you would have such an objection. After all, your board
charges a fee for access to it as well. To top it off, you only tell the
caller this -after- you've acquired their home and business telephone
numbers, address, interests in CD's, and other information. Having called
you long distance I must admit to being a bit aggravated to have paid
long distance charges for a rather long questionaire only to have found out
that the board charges for access.

Seems to me that if you're operating the board "for pay" that you have little
right to harrass the authors of the CD-ROM for trying to make some money
as well.

Now that I've gotten your attention this is notice as well that I do not
want my name and address used by you in any way, nor do I plan to access
your board now or in the future.


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From: BILL WOOD                              Number: 9368
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/27/93 10:03p
Subj: National Computer Outlet                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                         NATIONAL COMPUTER OUTLET 
                            STONE WOOD VILLAGE 
                          2750 PELHAM ROAD SOUTH 
                          JACKSONVILLE, AL 36206  
                   Just off Highway 21 at Stonewood village 
                    (205) 435-2463/2563 For Local AREA 
                       1-800-200-3066 For Long Distance 
                          BUY DIRECT OR MAIL ORDER 
 
Prices below are discounted for users of this BBS or MESSAGE ECHO. 
If buying a product, mention you saw this AD Posted by 
Billster's World BBS when ordering over the phone. 
VISA, Master Card, and Personal Checks Accepted. 
Call The number above to Find out Definate Shipping Charges. 
  
Computer Components and ACCESSORIES: 
CASES: 
DESKTOP........$  69.00      	   Full Tower....$131.00   
Mini Tower.....$  69.00      	   Black Cases..$50.00 - 75.00 EXTRA 
Mid Tower......$ 113.00	   
 
MOTHER BOARDS: 
386SX40.....$89.00    386DX40(LOCAL BUS)$180.00    486SX33....$240.00 
486DX33.....$469.00   486DX50...........$650.00    486DX2-66..$690.00 
                  All 486 motherboards come with local bus Vesa 
 
RAM: 
1 MB..$50.00			 4 MB..$199.00		 16MB..$779.00 
2 MB..$99.00             8 MB..$399.00  
 
HARD DRIVES: 
260 MB IDE....$275.00			 130 MB IDE..$231.00 
340 MB IDE....$379.00			 214 MB IDE..$268.00 
 
Key Boards: 
101 Key.....$24.00         130 Key...$78.00 
 
Monitors: 
14" SVGA.....$279.00		 14" SVGA Non Interlaced..$299.00 
17" SVGA.....$699.00		 15" SVGA.................$449.00 
				   All monitors are .28 DPI or less 
				    
Video:  
ISA 1 MB...$69.00            VESA 1 MB....$106.00 
                             Upgradeable to 3MB 
                              
Floppy: 
3.5 1.44......$49.00               5.25 1.2MB....$58.00 
 
Controller Cards: 
IDE......$18.00   Local Bus....$56.00  Caching WO/IO....$181.00 
 
Don't see what you Want, Just ask.  The above Compents can be bought 
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in each Category.  Just fill out the order form below. 
 
     
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	      *All Systems carry a one year In-store Parts and Labor warranty* 
                     All products subject to availability  
                 Prices are subject to change without notice  
               Shipping Charges are Virtual Cost, NOT INFLATED. 
                  Alabama Residents please Add 5.5% Sales Tax     
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MOTHERBOARD:  ITEM NAME_____________________    ITEM PRICE $________________ 
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HARD DRIVE:   ITEM NAME_____________________    ITEM PRICE $________________ 
KEYBOARD:     ITEM NAME_____________________    ITEM PRICE $________________ 
MONITOR:      ITEM NAME_____________________    ITEM PRICE $________________ 
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From: KEN ISBELL                             Number: 9369
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 12/25/93 12:45a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>If you are looking for great prices on the latest CD-Roms, give us a
JL>call or post your address, and we will be glad to send you our latest
JL>price list.  We also have a 44 page catalog complete with descriptions

     Hello Jim,
     
     Could you send us your catalogue?
     
     Ken Isbell
     839 East Uniacke Road
     Mount Uniacke, NS
     CANADA B0N 1Z0
     
     Thanks.

  /~~~~~~\___
 =\(0)-----(0) .... Ken Isbell, trucking along in Mount Uniacke, NS

 þ SPEED 1.3m #1267 þ  "Is this a bust?"  "Yes!"  "Very nice."
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From: KEN ISBELL                             Number: 9370
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 12/25/93 12:50a
Subj: Educational shareware CD                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 HB> I will send you our current price listing with Full
 HB> Description of most of our 700+ CDs.  We're located in Toronto, so you
 HB> can count on us to get you your CDs hassle-free.

     Hello Hayden,
     
     Could you send us your list too?  Address:
     
     Ken Isbell
     839 East Uniacke Road
     Mount Uniacke, NS
     B0N 1Z0
     
     Thanks.

  /~~~~~~\___
 =\(0)-----(0) .... Ken Isbell, trucking along in Mount Uniacke, NS

 þ SPEED 1.3m #1267 þ  Practice mirth control.  Use a conundrum!
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From: KEN ISBELL                             Number: 9371
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 12/25/93  2:12a
Subj: For The largest selection               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*Fhc> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
*Fhc> We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
*Fhc> CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)

Joe:

Ken Isbell
839 East Uniacke Road
Mount Uniacke, NS
CANADA B0N 1Z0

Thanks.
 þ SPEED 1.3m #1267 þ Single folks die younger, Married folks die slower.
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From: JOHN HUNTER                            Number: 9372
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 12/28/93  2:33p
Subj: Re:PRO PHONE CD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JM->That's what the extra $2.90 was for.  :)  I'll mail it as soon as the USPO
o
JM-> again after the Christmas holiday.  Send me the check today or tomorrow
...
JM->would be easier to wait until my address shows up on the package though.

Thanks will send check as soon as I get the address off of package.



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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 9373
  To: BLAKE BARR                               Date: 12/28/93  7:49p
Subj: OS/2                                    Refer: NONE
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On (18 Dec 93) Blake Barr wrote to All...

 BB> Can anybody help me? I am having trouble getting my CD-ROM to work
 BB> with OS/2.. It's a Mitsumi MPC drive with 16 bit controller. I bought

Call the IBM BBS at 919-517-0001 and download a file called MITFX.ZIP which
will have the driver for the Mitsumi series CD-ROM drives.  Add the
following line to your OS/2 CONFIG.SYS:

BASEDEVICE=MITFX001.ADD

and away you go!


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From: HERB ZWIRN                             Number: 9374
  To: TIM SHEEHAN                              Date: 12/28/93 10:42a
Subj: OS/2 CD wanted                          Refer: NONE
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 BD>TS> What about the "for windows" version, do you have that? I would
 BD>TS> prefer that.
 
 How about the full blown  2.0 Extended Edition, weighs about 40lbs.
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From: VIC HLUSHAK                            Number: 9375
  To: GARY SHADE                               Date: 12/28/93 12:46p
Subj: cd's                                    Refer: NONE
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Sorry about that, problem with the mail reader....

:-) Vic

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From: JEAN-LOUIS BONTRONT                    Number: 9376
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 12/28/93 10:39a
Subj: ASIMOV CD                               Refer: NONE
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Vince Sorensen digitally articulated the following
to Jean-louis Bontront on 27 Dec 93  10:01

 VS> There is only a "Complete Robot" collection to my knowledge.

Thanks for the info.  I'll keep my eyes open for what I am looking for.
Someone is bound to publish it sometime...

JLB

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From: DAVID SEBRING                          Number: 9377
  To: JAY BERKLAND                             Date: 12/28/93 11:24p
Subj: Iron Helix CD                           Refer: NONE
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Jay the CD is going out 12/29/93...sorry for the delay I got kidnapped 
by aliens!..(ok so it was inlaws) over the Xmas holiday.

Hope yours are merry !


Dave Sebring

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From: DOUG SUMMERS                           Number: 9378
  To: JAMIE LEDBETTER                          Date: 12/28/93 11:15a
Subj: CD ROM and Sound Card                   Refer: NONE
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JL-] I am looking for a CD ROM (Would like Double Speed, But not a Must) and a
  -] Bit Sound Card.  I will also need the controller card that goes with the C
  -] ROM.  Must be working and compatable with each other.  If you have one for
  -] leave me a message along with your price here and I will get in touch with
  -] as soon as possible.

Jamie, how about a Toshiba 3401B internal CDROM w/Pro Audio Studio 16
sound card and CS-550 Labtec speakers for $460? I'll give a 30-day
warranty against DOA.
(619)444-6368 before 9pm PST or reply here.


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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 9379
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/27/93  8:45a
Subj: Music & F/X BBS CD                      Refer: NONE
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Hello All!,

I need a CD with music files like .mod & .669 etc., and sound effects
like .wav. & .voc etc... Other formats too, just mostly familliar with
those. It's for my BBS, so BBS ready would be a nice extra. :)

Thanks!!!!






                        Henry
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From: JOSEPH DANIELS                         Number: 9380
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/28/93  9:57p
Subj: CDROMs for Sale       1/5               Refer: NONE
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                   STAREware Library 37122-769 Southdale Rd.
                       London, Ontario, Canada, N6E-3B0
             Prices Quoted are Canadian Funds & Subject to Change
                         Last Update December 27, 1993

                         Note: Order form on last page

     101  SEX POSITIONS - Double Disc Set (101999), Retail $189.99,  VIVID
     Professionally produced adult education CDROM. Identifies 101  sexual
     positions  with  their proper names and demonstrates in  high  color,
     motion & sound. Produced in July 1993. Your Price $124.99

     ADULT  PICTURE LIBRARY (APL939), Retail $49.99, 689 mb,  3517  files.
     3114 GIFs, 342 movies. Produced December 1993. Your Price $34.99

     ADULT  PALATE (PAL949), Retail $69.99, full color,  Hard-Core  photos
     from adult films. Windows or MAC. March 1993. Your Price $39.99

     ADULT REFERENCE LIBRARY (ARL120), Retail $59.99, 537 mb, 2964  files.
     Transexuals, pregnant, big boobs, baby tits, milky mams,  lez-o-rama,
     orgies,  orientals,  dildo delight, really weird, etc.  Idiot  proof,
     just type "MENU". Semi wife-proof. March 1993. Special Only $29.99!

     ADULT  SAMPLER  (SAM919), Retail $29.99 Demos,  movie  clips,  hi-rez
     photos  from  New Machine Publishing's newest  titles:  "Adult  Movie
     Almanac",  "Dream Machine", "Seymore Butts",  "Nightwatch",  "Digital
     Dancing", "Hidden Obsessions", "Night Trips", "Secrets", "Legends  of
     Porn  II",  "Girls of J. Steven Hicks". PC or  MAC.  September  1993.
     Your Price $24.99

     AFTER DARK TRILOGY (TRI959), Retail $79.99, 650 mb. Scenes from three
     "After  Dark"  XXX Videos. Full motion, color &  sound.  77  minutes.
     Windows. June 1993. Your Price $49.99

     ALL  BEAUTIES (ALL959), Retail $79.99, 667 mb, 3991 files.  XXX-rated
     thru swimsuit super vga pictures & movies. Built-in viewer  programs.
     Menu driven, No descriptions. June 1993. Your Price $49.99

     AMATEUR  MODELS (AMA028), Retail $69.99, 650 mb. Over 500  centerfold
     style  shots of beautiful women. Photographed by  professionals  from
     around the world.  All images in two formats: 1024x768x256 color GIFs
     and  true color 24-bit 16.7 million color TIFFs. All original,  never
     before published images. Automatic installation viewer program.  July
     1993. Your Price $39.99

     AMERICAN GIRLS (AMA959), Retail $79.99, Over 200 sexy, high  quality,
     R  rated photos by J. Stephen Hicks. Windows or Mac. September  1993.
     Your Price $49.99

     AMOROUS ASIAN GIRLS (ASI959), Retail $79.99, 65 minute movie.  Smooth
     motion,  True  Color, stereo sound. Hottest scenes  of  Asian  stars.
     "All-killer, No-filler!".  Windows. December 1993. Your Price $49.99

     ANIMATION  FANTASIES  (ANA949), Retail $69.99, over 100  live  action
     movies. Easy menu system. No descriptions. January 1993. Price $39.99

     ANIMATION FANTASIES #2 (AN2949), Retail $69.99, over 100 live  action
     movies,  some  use SoundBlaster. Easy menu system.  No  descriptions.
     April 1993. Your Price $39.99

     ART  OF  PICKING UP GIRLS (ART959), Retail $79.99 45  min  movie.  22
     gorgeous  girls  share  their secret desires with  radio  D.J.  Steve
     Morris,  as he roams Southern California searching for the answer  to
     man's eternal quest. This is the ultimate guide for men of all  ages.
     Learn how to score & more. DOS. December 1993. Your Price $49.99

     ASIAN LADIES (ALS959), Retail $79.99, 336 mb, 1810 files, no  movies,
     descriptions.  XXX  GIFs of Oriental women. Wife-proof if  insert  is
     removed - disk says only "AL" on it. March 1993. Your Price $49.99

     BARE ASSETS (BAR979), Retail 99.99. Beautiful Women Series Volume  1.
     QuickTime movies & photos from Space Coast. Check out these babes  as
     they  dance on the beach, splash in the pool, pose in the studios  of
     Intimate  Images, & peel off their clothes until nothing is left  but
     their Bare Assets. Windows or Mac. Your Price $79.99

     BARLOW  AFFAIRS (BRL969), Retail $89.99. Take charge of  the  hottest
     ladies  anywhere  (including Teri Weigle). You choose the  star,  the
     scene  & the action of the hit movie "The Barlow Affairs".  Exclusive
     behind  the  scenes  photos  & the  highest  level  of  interactivity
     offered.  You  now have control over what turns you  on.  Interactive
     movie for Windows or Mac. November 1993. Your Price $64.99

     BEST  of VIVID (BOV969), Retail $89.99. Full motion, color and  sound
     segments from "Vivid" porno films. July 1993. Your Price 64.99

     BETRAYAL  (BET969),  Retail $89.99. Quicktime movie  starring  Ashlyn
     Gere. Husband & wife trying to catch each other cheating. Windows  or
     MAC. September 1993. Your Price $64.99

     BUSTIN  OUT!  (BUS969), Retail $89.99. Get on the  DD  Express!  Full
     motion,  color & sound. XXX movie features big-boobed beauties.  DOS.
     August 1993. Your Price $64.99

     BUTTMAN'S  EUROPEAN  VACATION (BUT959),  Retail  $79.99.  Interactive
     voyeurism  at  it's  best. Take an erotic tour  through  Europe  with
     Buttman  & beautiful women from France, Holland & Hungary serving  as
     "special  guides"  in one of the most exciting journeys  captured  on
     video. Windows or Mac. Decemeber 1993. Your Price $49.99

     CAMP  DOUBLE  DD (CDD959), Retail $79.99. An all-girl  epic  in  full
     motion,  color  &  sound.  Four levels of  interactivity.  Bigger  is
     definitely  better as you watch these beauties go at  it.  Guaranteed
     not to miss a jiggle. December 1993. Your Price $49.99

     CAT & MOUSE (CAT969), Retail $89.99. Multimedia movie starring Jeanna
     Fine.  "Come play with Jeanna, you'll get used to the cage."  Windows
     or MAC. September 1993. Your Price $64.99

     COLLEGE  GIRLS (COL338), Retail $79.99. 60 minute digital movie.  Joe
     Elliott  placed ads in local campus newspapers for  clean-cut,  girl-
     next-door types for nude video work. Here are his hottest  auditions.
     Quicktime for Windows. September 1993. Your Price $49.99

     CONDO CUTIES (CON969), Retail $89.99. Featuring The Fantastic Voyeur.
     You  pick  the women's-only condo you want to be a secret  guest  in.
     They  think  that they are all alone, but the Voyeur Craft  lets  you
     watch & listen. Windows.  October 1993. Your Price $64.99

     CREME  DE LE CREME (CRE959), Retail $79.99. 480 XXX amateur GIFs  not
     seen  anywhere  else. 300 of them also in 24 bit,  16  million  color
     TIFs. October 1993. Your Price $49.99

     CYBORGASM (CYB939), Retail $49.99. XXX erotica in 3-D sound. Explicit
     sexual  fantasies,  erotic stories & voyeuristic scenes. For  a  wild
     erotic experience, just close your eyes & listen. Headphones required
     for 3-D sound. November 1993. Your Price $34.99

     DEBBIE  DOES DALLAS (DEB238), Retail $79.99. Full length  interactive
     multimedia  movie starring the most famous cheerleader of  all  time.
     Cut  &  paste  single frames or clips into  other  Windows  programs.
     September 1993. Your Price $49.99

     DEEP  THROAT (DEP244), Retail $89.99. This one started it  all.  Full
     length  interactive  movie. Full motion, color & sound. Cut  &  paste
     single frames or clips into other Windows programs. July 1993. $56.99

     DEVIL IN MISS JONES (DMJ038), Retail $79.99. Georgina Spelvin & Harry
     Reems in a porn classic. A virgin spinster in her 30's takes her  own
     life. Facing an eternity in hell, she tells the devil that if she had
     her  life to live over, she would live it filled, engulfed,  consumed
     by lust! She gets her chance! Windows. October 1993. Price $56.99
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From: JOSEPH DANIELS                         Number: 9382
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/28/93  9:57p
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     DIGITAL  DANCING,  THE  EROTIC  CHALLENGE  (DIG969),  Retail  $89.99.
     Interactive  multimedia game. If you win, the dancer of  your  choice
     takes  off  everything. Choose from 4 sexy dancers. Works on  IBM  or
     MAC. July 1993. Your Price $64.99

     DIGITAL  DREAMS  (DDR959), Retail $79.99.  632 mb, 2335  files.  Menu
     system. All original scans 1024x768x256 or 800x600x256. Full  frontal
     nudity,  no  men, no penetration, no split-beavers. JUN/93. $49.99

     DIRTY  TALK  (TLK969), Retail $89.99. 35 minutes,  full  color,  full
     motion,  video  & sound. Four gorgeous nude girls  perform  for  you.
     Requires DOS 5.0 or higher, 2mb RAM, 1 mb VGA card, mouse. June 1993.
     Your Price $64.99

     DOORS   OF  PASSION  (DOR969),  Retail  $89.99.   Interactive   adult
     adventure.  Hilarious,  erotic  romp  through  the  Passion  Mansion.
     Explore  each  door while trying to locate the many  guests  as  they
     expose their wild sides. 60 minutes of seductive & entertaining  full
     motion, color & sound. DOS. November 1993. Your Price $64.99

     DREAM  GIRL (DRG969). Retail $89.99. Finally a game that gives you  a
     chance to "go all the way" with gorgeous models. Movie-like videogame
     with explicit live video, hit songs, sound effects & great  graphics.
     December 1993. Your Price $64.99

     DREAMLAND #1 (DLN949), Retail $69.99. 639 Megs, 3748 files. XXX  GIFs
     & Animations. December 1993. Your Price $39.99

     ECSTACY HOT PICS (EHP959), Retail $79.99. 572 Megs, 2600+ GIFs,  330+
     movies  &  text stories, 4265 files total. Sounds. Menu  System  with
     mouse support. Not Wife-Proof. September 1992. Your Price $49.99

     EROTICA (ERO969), Retail $89.99. Highly interactive movie. 6 hot  XXX
     scenes. Windows or MAC. December 1993. Your Price $64.99

     EROTICAFE (ERC989), Retail $119.99. Beautiful Women Series Volume  2.
     QuickTime  movies & photographs from Space Coast. Hundreds of  mb  of
     the hottest dishes from around the world. Windows or Mac. $89.99

     EROTIC  ENCOUNTERS (ENC959), Retail $79.99. 710 mb! 4309  files.  All
     GIFs.  "Wife-proof"  if  insert  is removed  (disk  label  says  only
     "E.E."). Your Price $49.99

     EROTIC ENCOUNTERS II (EE2959), Retail $79.99. 622 mb. 3557 files. All
     GIFs.  "Wife-proof"  if  insert  is removed  (disk  label  says  only
     "E.E."). Mouse-driven menu system. July 1993. Your Price $49.99

     EXPOSE  (EXP959),  Retail $79.99. 618 mb, 986 files. 500  XXX  photos
     feauturing the prettiest girls from Fat Dog Productions doing it all.
     In both 256 color & 24 bit color. December 1993. Your Price $49.99

     EXTREME DELIGHTS (EXT949), Retail $69.99. Erotic sights & sounds. PCX
     format stills. Mouse required. September 1993. Your Price $39.99

     FOR ADULTS ONLY - 3 DISK SET (FAO979), Retail $99.99. 1892 mb,  2600+
     files. GIFs, DLs, GLs, FLIs. Your Price $79.99

     FOR  ADULTS ONLY GOLD (FAO949), Retail $69.99. 605 Megs. 4182  Files.
     GIFs, movies, text & games. Your Price $39.99

     FOXES  (FOX939), Retail $59.99. 606 Megs. 4832 Files, all  XXX  GIFs.
     Wife Proof. July 1993. Your Price $34.99

     GAY WORLD 1 (GW1969), Retail $89.99. 627 mb, 8843 files, all gay male
     GIFs. HOT HUNKS is a clone of this disk! December 1992. Price $64.99

     GAY  WORLD 2 (GW2969), Retail $89.99. 519 mb. 3414 all gay male  GIFs
     plus 706 all male JPGs. June 1993. Price $64.99

     GAY/BI/LESBIAN  (GBL959), Retail $79.99, (Gay, Bi, Lesbian). 347  mb,
     2494 files. Wife proof if insert is removed. November 1992. $49.99

     GIFFY  GOLD (GIF959), Retail $79.99. 214 mb, 1055 files.  Wife-proof.
     Amateur  snapshots of San Diego girls range from G thru XXX.   Images
     not on any other CD. IBM/MAC. APR/93. Price $49.99

     GIRLS,  GIRLS,  GIRLS, GIRLS! (GGG959), Retail $79.99.  434  mb,  458
     files.  57 min of lesbian scenes in full motion, color &  sound.  See
     stars like Leana Foxx, Barbara Dare, Lois Ayres and Honey get wild  &
     crazy. October 1993. Your Price $49.99

     GIRLS  OF J. STEPHEN HICKS (JSH959), Retail $79.99. Over one  hundred
     photos of five sexy girls shot by J. Stephen Hicks whose work appears
     in  Penthouse,  New  Look, Gallery & Swimwear USA.  Windows  or  Mac.
     September 1993. Your Price $49.99

     GIRLS  OF  MARDI GRAS (GMG959), Retail $79.99. X-rated  movie  filmed
     live  in  New  Orleans. Wild Mardi Gras  parties  &  beautiful  girls
     totally nude. DOS. October 1993. Your Price $49.99

     GIRLS  OF  RISQUE' (RSQ125), Retail $79.99. 594 mb, 1115  files.  All
     1024x768x256  high quality GIFs rated XX. Also a subdirectory  of  75
     XXX  GIFs purposely left out of menu program. All original,  licensed
     photos never before seen. Easy menu, no installation. NOV/93. $46.99

     GIRLS  OF VIVID (VIV959), Retail $79.99. Over 500 hand picked high  &
     true color stills of VIVID beauties. Menu driven, user friendly.  Use
     Magnifying  Glass  feature for closer looks.  JUL/93. Price $49.99

     GIRLS  OF  VIVID VOL 2 (VV2030), Retail $79.99. Over  500  additional
     high  &  true  color  slides of VIVID  beauties.  Menu  driven,  user
     friendly. July 1993. Your Price $49.99

     GIRLS  WITH GIRLS (GWG969), Retail $89.99. BodyCello lets  you  relax
     with  over  200 of the sharpest, highest quality  XXX  lesbian  shots
     you've ever seen. DOS. December 1993. Your Price $64.99

     GLAMOUR GIRLS 1943 (GLA969), Retail $89.99, nostalgic nude photos and
     quicktime movies from the 1940's. IBM/MAC. June 1993. Price $64.99

     HEAVENLY  BODIES  1 (HB1979), Retail $99.99. 200  high  quality  nude
     shots  of  over 25 young beauties. From BodyCello.  DOS  or  Windows.
     December 1993. Your Price $79.99

     HEAVENLY BODIES 2 (HB2979), Retail $99.99. 200 more of the best  nude
     shots of 25 beauties. From BodyCello. DOS or Windows. DEC/93. $79.99

     HIDDEN   OBSESSIONS   (HID353),  Retail   $89.99.   Fractel   digital
     compression,  full screen, 30 frames/sec. If this one doesn't  excite
     you, you're dead! DOS, 286 16 mhz or better. 90 mins. JUN/93. $64.99

     HIGH VOLUME NUDES (HVN959), Retail $79.99.  380 mb, 1025 files.  High
     quality  collection  of 500 nude photos, no  hard-core.  Windows/MAC.
     August 1993. Your Price $49.99

     HOT HUNKS (HUN969), Retail $89.99. 624 mb, 5237 files. Hard-core  gay
     male  GIFs. Select from 35 thumbnail pictures per screen. Point  with
     mouse to view full image. Clone of GAY WORLD #1. JUL/93. Price $64.99

     HOUSE  OF  DREAMS (HOD969), Retail $89.99. Erotic  fantasy  movie  by
     creator of Hidden Obsessions. 76 min. PC & MAC. JUL/93. Price $64.99

     HOUSE  OF  SLEEPING  BEAUTIES (HSB046), Retail  $89.99,  full  length
     digital movie. Sleep next to the women of your dreams. Requires 386SX
     20mhz  or better, Windows 3.1 or higher, 4 mb free ram, at least  350
     ms  CD-ROM drive, 4 mb free hard drive space, sound card. PC or  MAC.
     May 1993. Your Price $59.99

     INFERNO  (INF969) Retail $89.99. Playboy Playmate Teri Weigle in  her
     first  movie. Take charge of the hottest ladies anywhere! You  choose
     the  star,  the  scene & the action of the hit  movie  INFERNO.  With
     exclusive   behind  the  scenes  photos  &  the  highest   level   of
     interactivity  offered. You now have control over what turns you  on.
     Windows / Mac. November 1993. Your Price $64.99


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     KAMA  SUTRA  (KAM969),  Retail  $89.99.  The  Indian  Art  of  Sexual
     Positions.  Watch  for  your  favorite as  the  Prince  of  Affection
     explores the various possibilities of love with some of VIVID's  most
     beautiful women. Full motion, sound & color. JUL/93. $64.99

     KING  DONG  (KNG046),  Retail $89.99.  Movie  with  Crystal  Holland,
     prehistoric  monsters, savage horny women & the giant  ape.  Dirtiest
     dinosaur  movie  ever made. Well executed special  effects.  Lots  of
     hard-core sex. DOS. September 1993. Your Price $59.99

     L.A. STRIPPERS (LAS969), Retail $89.99. Beautiful babes, hot bikes  &
     wild  Rock  'n  Roll from L.A.'s famous Odd  Ball  Cabaret.  Explicit
     Nudity. DOS. September 1993. Your Price $64.99

     LEGENDS OF PORN II (LP2959), Retail $79.99. The famous legends of the
     XXX   screen  doing  what  they  do  best.  Quicktime  movie   clips.
     Windows/MAC. August 1993. Your Price $49.99

     LOADS  OF  FUN  (LOF959),  Retail $79.99.  89  min  movie.  Cum  shot
     collection.  Watch  them shoot into the mouths & bodies of  over  100
     ravishing women. Watch the women eat the jizz or massage their bodies
     with the cum of over 100 guys. Windows. DEC/93. $49.99

     LOVELY  LADIES II (LL2959), Retail $79.99, 676 mb of .BMP files.  111
     swimsuit  pictures, 113 lingerie shots, 85 sweaty women working  out,
     91  close-ups  of female body parts. Each image in  both  1024x768  &
     640x480. Your Price $49.99

     LUCSIOUS LADIES (LUS959), Retail $79.99. 645 Megs. 3760 Files.  Hard-
     Core. All GIFs. Menu system. August 1993. Your Price $49.99

     MAN  ENOUGH  (MAN979), Retail $99.99. Interactive  social  adventure.
     Multimedia dating simulation. Stimulating digitized speech  dialogue.
     Sharp   VGA  graphics.   Almost  1  hour  of  live-action  video.   5
     women...and you. DOS. December 1993. Your Price $79.99

     MANPOWER  (MAN120), Retail $89.99, 600 mb, 1700 files. Hard-core  gay
     GIFs. All sharp, high-quality 800x600x256 original scans. Easy,  just
     type 'MENU'. July 1993. Your Price $34.99

     MOVING FANTASIES (MOV215), Retail $69.99, 49 FLI, 145 GLs, 194 movies
     total,  desc-rip-tions.  Excellent menu makes it fun  to  use.  Wife-
     proof. January 1993. Your Price Just $29.99

     MY FIRST TIME - Double Disc Set (MFT969), Retail $89.99, full  length
     adult feature film depicts young lesbian's venture into straight sex.
     Starring Nikki Dial. DOS based. 84 minutes. MAY/93. Price $64.99

     MY  PRIVATE  COLLECTION (MYP025), Retail $79.99, 675 mb,  4094  files
     total. Movies. 114 Amateur Action GIFs. Wife-proof. June 1992 $39.99

     MY PRIVATE COLLECTION II (MY2025), Retail $79.99, 649 mb, 3340 files.
     No movies. Wife-proof. February 1993. Your Price $49.99

     MYSTIQUE  of  the  ORIENT (MYS959), Retail $79.99, 600  mb  movie  of
     Oriental  beauties.  Menu-driven, full motion, sound  &  high  color.
     July 1993. Your Price $49.99

     NEW WAVE HOOKERS (NWH959),  Retail $79.99. HUSTLER: Film of the Year!
     ADAM  FILM  WORLD:  Film of the Year! GENESIS:  Highest  Rating  Ever
     Given!  ADULT  FILM ASSOC. AWARDS: Best Sex Scene!  Windows  or  Mac.
     September 1993. Your Price $49.99

     NIGHTWATCH  INTERACTIVE  (NWI969),  Retail  $89.99.  Adult  adventure
     video.  Join  a  beautiful security guard as  you  explore  a  luxury
     beachfront complex. 12 sex scenes. Live actors & 3D rendered sets. PC
     or MAC. May 1993. Your Price $64.99

     NIX PIX, HOT PIX (NIX999), Retail $129.99, 622 mb, 4901 files  total.
     Anal,  beastiality,  bondage, famous skin,  fist,  gay,  transexuals,
     water sports, etc. Semi wife-proof because of title. Price $99.99

     NIX PIX HOT PIX 2 (NX2949), Retail $69.99, 563 mb, 2950 files.  Anal,
     bondage,  famous  skin, fist, gay, transexuals,  water  sports,  etc.
     Semi wife-proof because of title. Price Only $39.99

     NIX PIX HOT PIX 3 (NX3949), Retail $69.99, 629 mb, 4080 files.  Anal,
     bondage,  famous  skin, fist, gay, transexuals,  water  sports,  etc.
     Semi wife-proof because of title. December 1992. Your Price $39.99

     NIX  PIX  HOT  PIX  4 (NX494), Retail $69.99,  598  mb,  3511  files.
     Contains  only the Nix Pix Windy City original GIFs &  stories  ('WC'
     file-names  only)  from the Hot Pix 1/2/3. DEC/92. Price $39.99

     NIX PIX HOT PIX 5 (NX5949), Retail $69.99, 588 mb, 3338 files.  Anal,
     bondage,  famous  skin, fist, gay, transexuals,  water  sports,  etc.
     Semi wife-proof because of title. June 1993. Your Price $39.99

     NORTHERN  DELIGHTS (NTH235), Retail $79.99. 631 mb, 1025  files.  All
     1024x768x256  high quality, XXX GIFs. All original,  licensed  photos
     never before seen. Easy menu, no installation. NOV/93. Only $46.99

     NOVA COLLECTION (NOV959), Retail $79.99. 278 mb, 1678 files. All  new
     XXX GIFs. DOS & Windows viewers included. October 1993. Price $49.99

     PARADISE   CLUB  (PAR969),  Retail  $89.99.  Interactive   multimedia
     adventure  starring the girls from New York's famous  Paradise  Club.
     They  tell  about their adventures at New York's  only  totally  nude
     night club. Windows. September 1993. Your Price 64.99

     PC  PIX #1 (PIX030), Retail $79.99, 646 mb, 5500+ GIFs, 200+  movies.
     640x480x256  or  higher.  Co-op project of Nitelog  Imaging,  Gabby's
     Lounge, Garlique Graphics, Twylight Zone, Prizm, Farmer's Daughter  &
     Sugar Magnolia. Not wife-proof. May 1992. Your Price $49.99

     PC  PIX  #2  (PX2030), Retail $79.99, 633 mb, 3001  files.  Most  are
     800x600x256 or higher. From Picture Gallery, Hi Tech Place,  Library,
     NightHawk, Twilight Zone. Wife-proof. September 1992. Price $49.99

     PC  PIX  #3 (PX3030), Retail $79.99, 671 mb, 3590 files.  No  movies.
     From  Nightlog Imaging, Garlique Graphics, Hi Tech Place,  NightHawk,
     Gabby's Lounge. Wife-proof. February 1993. Your Price $49.99

     PENTHOUSE INTERACTIVE (PEN999), Retail $129.99. Virtual Photo  Shoot.
     You are a Penthouse photographer. Take & view photos. Save images  to
     disk. Print, view & update customized contact sheets. Over 90 minutes
     of  full-motion  digital video to explore. Every shoot is  unique.  3
     beautiful Penthouse pets. Mac only. November 1993. Your Price $99.99

     PGG1  (PGG959),  Retail  $79.99. 424 mb,  2727  files.  Nude  amateur
     models.  Some bondage, piercing, nipple rings, foot fetish.  Original
     copyrighted  GIFs  from  Professional  Graphics  Group.   Wife-proof.
     September 1993. Your Price $49.99

     PHONE SEX (FON019), Retail $59.99, 361 mb, 51 files. XXX-rated sounds
     &  conversations in WAV files for Windows. Eavesdrop on 1-900  calls!
     September 1993. Your Price $39.99

     PHYSICAL  THERAPY (PHY322), Retail $59.99, 614mb of GIF, FLI, GL,  DL
     files. 3381 files. Wife-proof. Formerly XXX EXTREME. SEP/92. $34.99

     PIXURE ROM 1 (PR1959), Retail $79.99. General Appeal & Nudes, 510+mb,
     3000+ files. 1/2 G-rated, 1/2 nudes. IBM or MAC. AUG/91. Price $49.99

     PIXURE ROM 2 (PR2959), Retail $79.99, Perversia Galore, 640+mb. 40 mb
     animations.  All adult. PORK-WARE 2 is a clone of this disk!  IBM  or
     MAC. Your Price $49.99

     PIXURE ROM 3 (PR3959), Hedonistic Tendencies, Retail $79.99,  645+mb.
     620  mb  GIFs, 25 mb 32k color Targas. 500+  1024x768x256  GIFs,  225
     800x600x256 GIFs. All adult. PORK-WARE 1 is a clone of this disk! IBM
     or MAC. September 1992. Your Price $49.99

     PORK-WARE  1 (PRK959), Retail $79.99, 655 mb, 2148 files, no  movies.


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From: JOSEPH DANIELS                         Number: 9385
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/28/93  9:57p
Subj: CDROMs for Sale       3/5               Refer: NONE
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     Wife-proof  if  insert is removed. This is a clone of PIXURE  ROM  3!
     April 1993. Your Price $49.99
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From: JOSEPH DANIELS                         Number: 9386
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/28/93  9:57p
Subj: CDROMs for Sale       4/5               Refer: NONE
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     PORK-WARE 2 (PK2232), Retail $79.99, 649 mb, 3,543 files, 135 movies.
     Wife-proof  if  insert is removed. This is a clone of PIXURE  ROM  2!
     May 1993. Your Price $49.99

     PRINCESS  of PERSIA (PRP042), Retail $89.99. 75 min  hard-core  movie
     with  stereo sound. Exotic Persian women, CIA plot, lots of  hot  XXX
     action.  Watch  your  favorite scene or run the  whole  movie.  Mouse
     required. DOS. October 1993. Your Price $59.99

     PRIVATE  PICTURES  (PRI949),  Retail $69.99, 135  mb,  600  GIFs,  70
     movies. Menu makes it easy! Includes poster. DEC/91. Price $39.99

     Q69  (Q69222),  Retail  $59.99. 318 mb, 2103  files.  XXX  GIFs  from
     Quebec. Easy menu system. Wife-proof. September 1993. Price $34.99

     RIMFIRE  PACIFIC  (RIM959), Retail $79.99, color & sound  film  clips
     from  the best adult features. Video for Windows  software  included.
     Requires  Windows 3.1 (or Windows 3.0 with  Multi-Media  extensions).
     March 1993. Your Price $49.99

     SECRETS  (SEC969), Retail $89.99. 80 min Quicktime 1.5 movie.  Andrew
     Blake  presents 11 gorgeous Beverly Hills women who will do  anything
     for a buck. Windows or Mac. Your Price $64.99

     SEEDY  ROM 1 through 6 (SD1949) (SD2949) (SD3949)  (SD4949)  (SD5949)
     SD6949), Retail $69.99 each. Volumes 1 thru 5 are all GIFs, volume  6
     also has movies & text files. Duplicate checked three ways. Photo Dex
     gives pages of mini pics. Click with mouse to blow up to full screen.
     SPECIAL -  all 6 for $199! Good for export - "wife-proof" disk  label
     says only "SEEDY ROM 1" with no hint that it contains adult material.
     August 1992. Your Price $39.99 each. All six for $199.99

     SEEDY  ROM  7th HEAVEN (SD7949), Retail $69.99. 698 mb,  3701  files,
     2900+ GIFs. Wife-proof. October 1992. Your Price Just $39.99

     SEEDY  ROM  MOVIE  DISK  #1 (SDM959),  Retail  $79.99,  the  best  in
     professional  & amateur adult movies. 6 titles from 7 min to  22  min
     long.  Over  1  hr of full color videos with  stereo  sound.  Windows
     required. May 1993. Your Price $49.99

     SEX-HIBITION (TFA949), Retail $69.99. Renamed: "Total Fantasy". "Sex-
     Hibition" was the original name. Renamed so that it could get through
     customs easier. Your Price $39.99

     SEXIEST  WOMEN ON CD (SXW949), Retail $69.99. Over 500 nude shots  of
     the sexiest women in the world. XX. DOS or Windows. DEC/93 $39.99

     SEXXCAPADES,  THE  MOVIE (SXC969), Retail $89.99. 600 mb,  256  color
     movie with sound. Group of friends playing Sexcapades computer  game.
     Fills 3/4 screen, 30 minutes. Requires at least a 386SX computer. May
     1993. Your Price 64.99

     SEYMORE BUTTS, INTERACTIVE ADVENTURES OF (SEY969), Retail $89.99. You
     call  the  shots as you join Seymore & his camera  in  exploring  his
     neighborhood & help him meet & mate with the girl of his dreams. 100+
     minutes  of custom shot XXX digital video. 1st person point  of  view
     puts you in the action. Windows & MAC versions. JUL/93. Price $64.99

     SMUTWARE  (SMW959),  Retail $79.99, 640 mb, 1001  1024x768x256,  2010
     800x600x256, 3011 gifs total, 101 movies. FEB/93. Your Price $49.99

     SO MUCH STAREWARE (SMS959), Retail $79.99, 580 mb, 2923 files, 100 mb
     R-rated  GIFs, 309 mb XXX, 171 mb XXX movies, some with  sound.  Easy
     menu & help file. February 1992. Your Price $59.99

     SOUTHERN BEAUTIES (STH331), Retail $79.99, 675 mb. Nudes, some split-
     beaver,  not hard-core. 1000 GIFs at 1024x768x256 from original  35mm
     slides.  300 mb of best GIFs in 24-bit True Color. Menu driven,  user
     friendly. July 1993. Your Price Just $39.99

     STORM  1 (ST1939), Retail $59.99, 700 mb, 4800 GIFs, 1400 ZIP  files,
     7395  files  total. Movies, 50 mb of text files. First  Adult  CDROM.
     Wife-proof. August 1991. Your Price $39.99

     STORM II (ST2949), Retail $69.99, 625 mb, 4800+ GIFs, 90 movies, 5150
     files total.  Install program gives automatic slide show. Besides the
     usual  stuff,  it also contains hermaphrodites, 2.4mb  gay,  10.5  mb
     transexuals. Wife-proof. April 1992. Your Price $44.99

     STORM  III (ST3959), Retail $79.99, 619 mb, 4531 files. 112  mb  male
     pics. Semi wife-proof (Adam & Eve on disk). NOV/92. Price $49.99

     SUPER  SMUTWARE (SSW949), Retail $69.99. 661 mb, 1237 files. All  new
     1024x768x256  never  before  seen XXX GIFs  from  Corporate  Graphics
     September 1993. Your Price $39.99

     SWEET DREAMS (SWD959), Retail $79.99. Still photos with sound of nude
     California  girls. Each has a spicy message for you. Windows or  DOS.
     December 1993. Your Price $49.99

     T&A  2  THE MAXX! (TA2929), Retail $49.99. 602 mb,  4193  files.  XXX
     GIFs, games, text stories & movies. October 1993. Only $29.99

     TOPLESS  DANCER CHAMPIONSHIP (TOP959), Retail $79.99. 60  min  movie.
     Performer of the Year. Super Bowl of exotic dancing. Top ten  dancers
     in North America battle for $50,000. DOS. DEC/93. Price $49.99

     TOTAL FANTASY (TFA949), Retail $69.99, 620 mb, 4149 files, 3750 GIFs,
     220 animations. Easy menu system. Previous name: SEX-HIBITION. August
     1993. Your Price $39.99

     TRACI,  I LOVE YOU (TRC959), Retail $79.99. Traci Lords in  the  most
     contoversial adult film. A passionate photographer prepares a  series
     of  encounters that are only the beginning of a young nymph's  erotic
     education. Windows or Mac. October 1993. Your Price $49.99

     TRANZ, Chicks with Dicks (TRZ120), Retail $79.99. 503 mb, 1432 files.
     BEAUTIFUL  women with firm, shapely breasts, and big, erect  penises!
     All sharp, high-quality, 800x600x256 original hard-core scans.  Easy,
     just type 'MENU'. August 1993. Price Just $29.99

     VIRTUAL  VALERIE  (The  Director's  Cut)  (VVA979),  Retail   $99.99.
     MACWORLD:  "The most progressive CD-ROM work done to date."  PLAYBOY:
     "One interactive turn-on is VIRTUAL VALERIE...She's a party girl  who
     lives in a penthouse to which you gain access with your trusty mouse.
     An  intuitive  point & click interface makes her virtually  yours  to
     play with. She's your cybernetic fantasy and YOU control the  action.
     Hilarious,  rip-roaring entertainment in a  sexploration  adventure."
     Macintosh only. Your Price $79.99

     VISUAL  FANTASIES  (VIS959), Retail $79.99, 466 mb, 2633  files  (all
     GIFs).  Bi-sexual, tran-sexual, fist, bondage,  big-boobs,  pregnant.
     Semi wife-proof (disk has picture of girl's face). OCT/91. $49.99

     VOLCANO (VOL959), Retail $79.99, 374 mb, 1475 GIFs, 1515 files total.
     No  movies,  6 32000 color Targa files.  Least  pornographic  CD-ROM.
     February 1992. Your Price $49.99

     WEEKEND   AT  ERNIE'S  (WAE959),  Retail  $79.99.  Interactive   anal
     adventure.  Spend  the  weekend  at Ernie's with  some  of  the  most
     beautiful  girls of Digital XTC. Explore each room, hall  &  doorway.
     The  fun  is always behind the back door. High, True color  motion  &
     sound. December 1993. Your Price $49.99

     WICKED  - Double Disc Set (WIC969), Retail $89.99.  Playboy  Playmate
     Teri  Weigel  in  first XXX Kodak Photo CD. Shot  during  filming  of
     'Wicked'. 3 versions - DOS, Windows & MAC. Free Kodak Photo CD Access
     Software & Photo Sampler CD-ROM (2 CD-ROMs total). JUN/93. $64.99

     WICKED  (WIM969), Retail $89.99. Quicktime movie.  Psychologist  Teri
     Weigel  video  tapes a couple having sex as she  studies  an  accused
     serial killer. Windows or MAC. September 1993. Your Price $64.99
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From: JOSEPH DANIELS                         Number: 9387
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Subj: CDROMs for Sale       4/5               Refer: NONE
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From: JOSEPH DANIELS                         Number: 9388
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/28/93  9:57p
Subj: CDROMs for Sale       5/5               Refer: NONE
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     WICKED WHISPERS (WWH959), Retail $79.99. Full length XXX film. Sex  &
     the  paranormal combine to provide you with a  breathtakingly  erotic
     feature. Great mystery plot. November 1993. Price $49.99

     WILD WOMEN (WWO949), Retail $69.99. 600+ mb, 2800+ XXX GIFs & TARGAs.
     Descriptive sub-directory names. Easy menu. SEP/93. Price $39.99

     WOMEN OF VENUS (VEN216), Retail $79.99, swimsuit edition. Windows  or
     DOS.  Back-ground  music.  User friendly interface.  MS-DOS,  MAC  or
     Amiga. Special Price Only $29.99!

     WOMEN  WHO LOVE MEN & MEN WHO LOVE WOMEN (WLM969), Retail $89.99.  60
     min of sex scenes in high, true color. Full motion & sound. 4  levels
     of  interactivity.  Full  screen, 24 fps. User  friendly  menu.  DOS.
     October 1993. Your Price $64.99

     XXX  EXTREME,  (PHY322),  Retail $59.99, 614mb of GIF,  FLI,  GL,  DL
     files.  3381 files. Wife-proof. Renamed Physical  Therapy.  September
     1992. Your Price $34.99.

                    STAREWARE LIBRARY, RUSH ORDER FORM
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                              ORDER BY MODEM

     You  can also order by Modem with Visa or MasterCard  by  calling
     one of the numbers listed below:


     LONDON, ONTARIO:   (519)649-1969  649-5314  649-5369  649-7530
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From: EDDIE MONEY                            Number: 9389
  To: TAB TRESS                                Date: 12/29/93  2:05a
Subj: Busty Babes Volume I  Version I         Refer: NONE
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Hello Tab!

Saturday December 25 1993 01:57, Tab Tress wrote to All:

 TT> Looking to sell or trade an unopened Busty Babes Volume I  Version I
 TT> CD-ROM w/ BAM BAM logo on back cover.  Leave a message on this net.  This
 TT> collectors edition is in mint condition.  Hope you've had a very
 TT> merry Xmas.

just wondering, what you want for it?

Eddie

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 9390
  To: IAN SINGER                               Date: 12/29/93 12:07p
Subj: drive cables                            Refer: NONE
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Ian Singer wrote in a message to Casey Romanski:

IS> So does my Hitachi 3600 but its a proprietary parallel.

IS> Talking of cables:

IS>   My CMS tape controller card has same connector as external
IS> Hitachi CDs

Do you know of any 40 flat to 37 sub "D" adaptors?   Custom building these
buggers is a giant pain.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 9391
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/29/93 12:09p
Subj: package deals                           Refer: NONE
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                Here   they    are...         $99        each    !

 Hitachi cd rom drives model 3600 (that's right model 3600) $99 each.
 Access time 350 ms.  Transfer rate 150 kb/s.  These EXCELLENT drives
 can be daisy-chained up to  8  on each propitiatory controller card.

 They can use the same controller cards that  are  used  with  the
 model 3500's.  If you don't  already  have  an  interface  card I
 have them NEW for $60.         I also have:
 Caddies                         $  5   each.
 External cases  for 4 drives    $ 20
 External cases  for 8 drives    $ 25
 Cables for 4 or 8 drives        $ 10
 Power supplies. (110/220)       $ 25
 Shipping   aprox.                       $    4      each   drive.

 30 day warranty.        All domestic orders are shipped    c.o.d.

 Total for an 8  drive  setup  assembled  in  case  with  p/s  and
 interface,  cables,  caddies,  ready  to  plug  in  and   play...
 including shipping c.o.d. (A $1,000 value)  ALL  for  only   $960

 4 drive setup as above....  A $560 value   special offer .....$530

 Call voice 205-824-2552  or "crash" netmail your order to 3625/441.
 Sorry...  routed  netmail  won't reach me since I get my  feed  via
 satellite.

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 9392
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 12/29/93 12:34p
Subj: Re: Netmail                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


In a message to Lee Noga <12-27-93 10:11> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> Happy Holidays, Lee! Didja get my netmail message?

Yes ! Hope the holidays were great for you too ! I have heard that the alamanac
was back burnered due to another project, apparently there were some hoops and
complexity associated with the almanac disc, but it will be a reality and back
on the front burners soon ! I will keep you posted !

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 9393
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/29/93 10:20a
Subj: * CD-ROMS for Sale                      Refer: NONE
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SR>What year is the Groliers?  INterested in Trading for shareware or
SR>adult cds?

   91 DOS

   Maybe but I have a deal on it but no check yet.
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Registered Symantec Q&A Consultant


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From: ALLEN DIETZ                            Number: 9394
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/27/93  7:28p
Subj: Used CD-ROM discs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following *used* (lightly) CD-ROM discs for sale.  All
are in excellent condition.  Please call me at (512) 444-9822 and
leave a message if you're interested.  Prices do not include $3.00
per order for shipping in the U.S.  (No C.O.D.)

Wildcat Gold, Vol. 4, No. 2 (Shareware)   $10.00
The Bible Library (Ellis Enterprises)     $20.00
Microsoft Works for Windows               $20.00
Lotus 1-2-3 with Multimedia SmartHelp
   (Release 1.1)                          $25.00
Microsoft Publisher (version 1.0)         $25.00
Learn to Speak Spanish (Hyperglot)
   (2-disc set)                           $25.00


Allen Dietz
(512) 444-9822


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From: ALLEN DIETZ                            Number: 9395
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/28/93  5:37a
Subj: Hugo Awards CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for the Hugo Awards CDROM.  If anyone is selling it,
could you please quote me a price and let me know how to order it?

Thanks,

Allen


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From: PETE DIBUONO                           Number: 9396
  To: DENNIS HENDERSON                         Date: 12/28/93  9:05a
Subj: Re: NIGHT OWL 10.1                      Refer: NONE
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Dennis,

   Exactly where is the virus on Night Owl 10.0.  I have the CD and I can't
find it.  I want to find it before it finds me. <GRIN>  Thanks in advance!

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From: BILL DENNISON                          Number: 9397
  To: GERALD BANACH                            Date: 12/28/93 11:15p
Subj: looking for Sony 535's                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I have a Sony CDU535 with a Sony Interface CDB 241. Unfortunately, th
-> interface card died. I would like to replace it with a sound card but
-> find one with a 40 pin connector. Do you have a suggestion?

Gerald,
    Check out the SoundBlaster 16 MultiCD card,  or the Cardinal
DigitalSound 16 (or whatever it's called) as they have interfaces for
multiple drives,  and the Cardinal I know mentions the Sony 'AT'
interface by name.

    Bill


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From: MIKE GRIFFIN                           Number: 9398
  To: BOB MONTGOMERY                           Date: 12/29/93  2:44a
Subj: Montgomery vs Noga et al                Refer: NONE
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Hello Bob!

28 Dec 93 18:37, Bob Montgomery wrote to All:

 BM> Hopefully, the judge's issuance of an injunction will serve as a
 BM> warning to others that copyright infringement is serious and will
 BM> not go unpunished.

Good luck to ya Bob. I know how it feels to spend hours behind the keys and see
your work distributed illegally.

Mike

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From: BRIAN ELFERT                           Number: 9399
  To: GERALD BANACH                            Date: 12/28/93 10:06p
Subj: looking for Sony 535's                  Refer: NONE
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-> Charlie,
->
-> I have a Sony CDU535 with a Sony Interface CDB 241. Unfortunately, th
-> interface card died. I would like to replace it with a sound card but
-> find one with a 40 pin connector. Do you have a suggestion?

Try a Soundblaster 16 MultiCD.  Claims to handle the Sony CD-ROMs.
Don't know which models exactly.

Brian


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From: MICHAEL DUCRE'                         Number: 9400
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 12/29/93  5:13p
Subj: !Free CD catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send me your CD catalog also......
Thanks......

328 Tiffany Dr. 
Slidell,LA 70461-3410



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From: MICHAEL DUCRE'                         Number: 9401
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 12/29/93  5:18p
Subj: !Free CD catalog                        Refer: NONE
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Joe, please send me your catalog also.....
Thanks....

328 Tiffany Dr.
Slidell,LA 70461-3410


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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 9402
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/29/93  5:37p
Subj: CENSORSHIP                              Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 MS> MG> DR> gonna tell ya here.  I'll tell ya on the phone) ;-)
 MS> 
 MS> MG>GRrrrrrrr.............  O.K. Shannon let us know when Dave calls so
 MS> MG>that I can call you and get the details.  Talk about a sucker
 MS> punch!
 MS> 
 MS> He still hasn't told me!

      Its been so long now that I forgot just what it was he was to tell
      but I recall something about dating and beyond w/adult details.
      Hope D.R. reads ALL the mail and finally gets back to you.  I
      would hate to die w/out having the rest of the story. :-}

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From: HERB ZWIRN                             Number: 9403
  To: DAVID MOLDOVAN                           Date: 12/28/93 10:15a
Subj: For sale!                               Refer: NONE
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DM>I thought I overheard Herb Zwirn say to David Moldovan:

DM> ->(1:272/54)

DM> DM>A) UltraStor UltraSCSI Kit (34F SCSI-II bus master card with drivers
DM> DM>                           for everything SCSI.  Supports SCSI-I,
DM> DM>                           SCSI-2, DOS, Windows, and OS/2)

DM> DM>  The card is brand new and still in shrink wrap.  $175 firm

DM> DM>B) Panasonic KX-T3980, 2 line, 10 channel, cordless phone.  About 10
DM> DM>  years old (only kidding, only about 4 months old).  Comes with
DM> DM>  2 year extended warranty covering almost everything.  $125 OBO
DM> HZ>
DM> HZ> If this supports sound cards too, I'm ready.

DM>It is a SCSI controller card for SCSI-I and SCSI-II hard disk drives.
DM>It does not support any type of sound card.  Why would it need to?

Yes still interested, but not too well acquainted with the technical aspect of
all this(quite mumbo-jumbo to me). It was something I was told to ask. What can
we do on both pieces and how do we arrange it??????
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9404
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/28/93  7:18p
Subj: CD DISCOUNTS 1 of 3                     Refer: NONE
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 20th Century Sports...........29.00    Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..49.00
 20th Century Video Almanac....29.00    Microsoft Cinemania 1993 MPC..52.00
 7th Guest.....................39.00    Microsoft Cinemania 1994 MPC..59.00
 9-Digit Zip Code Guide (NEW)..32.00    Microsoft Golf MPC............48.50
 9000 Sounds (NEW).............25.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........38.50
 A.S.P. Shareware (NEW)........22.00    Middle East Diary.............35.00
 Action Traveler (NEW).........29.00    MIDI Music Shop...............26.50
 Adventures in Heaven (NEW)....19.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...25.00    Monarch Notes.................48.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........35.00    Monster Media 93 vol 2........29.00
 American Business Phonebk 91..15.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 American Business Phonebk 93..25.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Aminet Amiga..................15.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....18.00
 Anecdotes 1...................14.50    Multimedia Magic Collection...28.00
 Anecdotes 2...................14.50    MVP Game Jamboree (NEW).......13.00
 Anecdotes 3...................14.50    National Geographic Mammals...24.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......19.00    National Parks................24.50
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....22.00    Nature Graphics (NEW).........29.00
 Arizona Images................25.00    Newsweek Interactive (NEW)....26.50
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......28.50    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Audubon's Birds...............23.00    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    Night Owl 8.0.................24.00
 Battle Chess..................25.00    Night Owl 10.1................30.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........25.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Beyond the Wall of Stars......24.50    Night Owl Games...............27.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl Graphics............27.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    Night Owl Windows (NEW).......27.00
 Britannica Family Choice......28.50    North American Fax Book.......32.50
 Britannica Select Software....28.50    Oceans Below (NEW)............27.50
 Business Assistant............12.00    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Business Master...............20.00    OS/2Box.......................25.00
 C User's Group Library........29.00    Otherware (Mac/Amiga S/W).....25.00
 Canadian Shareware............19.00    Our Solar System..............13.00
 Career Opportunities..........26.00    PC Karaoke w/ Microphone......65.00
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 CD Powerbox ($6 w/ any order).15.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....27.00
 CD Powerbox 2 (NEW..All 93!)..29.00    PC-SIG Windows................19.00
 CD Winbox 1.01................20.00    Pentomino.....................23.00
 CD-ROM of CD-ROMs ($9 w/ ord).29.00    Peter and the Wolf............25.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Phoenix 4.0...................18.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Phoenix Phun & Games..........15.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phonedisc USA.................69.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Pier 2........................24.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 3 (In Stock!)............29.00
 Clipart Heaven................25.00    Pier 2/3 2-Pak................49.00
 Clipart Warehouse (NEW).......13.00    Pinacotheca Multimedia........24.00
 Color Magic Clipart (NEW).....27.00    Pixel Garden..................34.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Companion for Windows (NEW)...19.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Companion for WordPerfect.....19.00    Playing w/ Language: English..24.50
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    Playing w/ Language: French...24.50
 Composer Quest................33.00    Playing w/ Language: German...24.50
 Compton's Interactive Ency....89.00    Playing w/ Language: Japanese.24.50
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....59.00    Playing w/ Language: Spanish..24.50
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....64.00    Precision Mapping.............68.00
 Computer Reference Library....13.00    Prescription Drugs............27.00

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9405
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/28/93  7:18p
Subj: CD DISCOUNTS 2 of 3                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 Conan the Cimmerian...........27.50    Profiles of Colleges..........29.50
 Consumer Information Disc.....34.50    Project Gutenberg.............22.00
 Cookbook Heaven...............23.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak 4th Qtr..109.00
 CorelDraw 3.0.................69.00    ProPhone 1993 Business........29.00
 Cybergenic Ranger.............19.50    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Dagger of Amon Ra.............32.00    Publish-It 2.0................25.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........35.00
 Dare, Bluff, or Die (NEW).....29.00    Publisher's Paradise..........29.00
 Day of the Tentacle...........44.50    Publisher's Paradise Pro......35.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Publisher's Powerhouse (NEW)..29.00
 Desert Storm..................33.50    Q&A 4.0.......................35.00
 Desktop Bookshop..............21.50    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Rebel Assault (NEW)...........49.00
 Dictionary of Living World....32.50    Reel Clips....................25.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............33.00    Reference Library ............24.50
 Dinosaurs!....................33.00    Return to Zork (NEW)..........50.00
 Dr. Games.....................20.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...37.00
 Dr. Music.....................20.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
 Dr. Shareware.................20.00    Scrabble Deluxe (NEW).........34.00
 Dr. Windows...................20.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
 DTPro.........................26.50    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
 Dune..........................39.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Ecoquest......................27.50    Shareware 1993 vol 2..........20.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......49.00
 Electronic Cookbook...........29.00    Shareware Online 1............19.00
 Electronic Home Library.......29.00    Shareware Online 2............29.00
 Electronic Library of Art.....39.50    Shareware Overload............13.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Shareware Overload Trio (NEW).29.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.00    Shareware Studio 2............23.00
 European Monarchs.............35.00    Shareware Studio 3............25.00
 Family Doctor.................26.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Firearms Reference............24.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...49.00
 Font Master 2.................24.00    Sights & Sounds...............22.50
 Food Analyst..................36.50    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Fractunes.....................30.00    Sleeping Beauty...............25.00
 Fresh Arte....................34.00    So Much Screenware............27.50
 Funny.........................33.00    So Much Shareware 2...........19.00
 Game Arena....................12.00    So Much Shareware 3...........25.00
 Game Master...................20.00    So Much Space (NEW)...........24.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Software Vault 1..............19.00
 Games Collection (90% 1993!)..26.00    Software Vault 2..............19.00
 Games Platinum (NEW)..........22.00    Software Vault Gold...........25.00
 Gameware Collection...........24.00    Solar Heaven (NEW)............23.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.00    Sound Effects Library.........19.00
 Gardening (NEW)...............13.00    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 GIF Galaxy (NEW)..............24.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 GIF's Galore 9/93.............16.50    Soundware Collection..........24.00
 Giga Games....................19.50    SoundWAV......................25.00
 Global Explorer...............85.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Space & Astronomy (NEW).......27.00
 Grammy Awards.................34.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Space Quest IV................19.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Space Shuttle (NEW)...........25.00
 Great Wonders of the World....42.00    Space Time and Art (NEW)......34.50
 Grolier's MPC Ency 6.0 (NEW)..45.00    Star Trek Collectibles........59.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...23.00    Stellar 7.....................19.50

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9406
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/28/93  7:19p
Subj: CD DISCOUNTS 3 of 3                     Refer: NONE
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 Guinness Disc of Records 93...29.00    Straight from Heaven (NEW)....19.00
 Guy Spy.......................29.50    Street Atlas USA v2...........94.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............29.00    STW Illustrated Encyclopedia..34.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    STW Multimedia Encyclopedia...44.00
 Ham Radio/Scanner Companion...23.50    STW MPC Encyclopedia..........44.00
 Hamware 1993..................23.00    Super Games For Windows.......10.00
 Health & Medical Directory....27.50    Talking Jungle Safari.........33.00
 Hobbes OS/2 10/93.............16.00    Tech Arsenal..................21.50
 Hollywood the Bizarre (NEW)...39.50    Technotools...................13.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..19.00
 Home Designer (NEW)...........29.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......35.00
 Home/Office Legal Guide.......13.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Horror & Sci-Fi Films (NEW)...39.50    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 House of Games................18.50    Timetable of Business/Politic.26.00
 Images of NASA (NEW)..........25.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Total Baseball 1992...........24.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Total Baseball 1993...........28.00
 Interactive Story Time 3......29.00    Total Heart by Mayo Clinic....49.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Trump Castle..................23.00
 Int'l Graphics Library........27.50    U.S./World Atlas MPC..........25.00
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....29.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................23.00
 Jets & Props..................28.50    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Jewel Cases................... 1.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 Jokes & Pranks................12.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Wars: Civil War..........34.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............39.00    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 King's Quest V................20.00    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............34.00
 King's Quest VI (Retail Box)..39.00    U.S. Wars: WWII...............34.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    USA Today: The 90's (NEW).....36.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........19.00    VGA Spectrum 1................13.00
 La Coleccion (Spanish S/W)....19.50    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 Lan Master....................25.00    Video Movie Guide (NEW).......28.50
 Language Discovery (NEW)......19.00    Virtual 3D (w/ glasses!)......28.50
 Languages of the World........37.00    Virtual Reality Starter Kit...49.00
 Learning Adventure............12.00    Wave Pool (NEW)...............19.00
 Learning Heaven...............19.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Library of the Future #1......39.00    Wildcat Gold..................20.50
 Libris Britannia..............34.00    Win Platinum..................22.00
 Linux.........................27.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Loom..........................19.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 Mac Multimedia Space..........29.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Mac Shareware.................19.00    Windows Collection (NEW)......26.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........29.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Macromind Action..............32.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Mad Dog McCree................39.00    World Atlas MPC ..............23.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    World Fact Book M/M...........23.00
 Mailer's Lookup (NEW).........27.50    World of Flight...............34.00
 Majestic Places...............38.50    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mantis........................24.00    World Traveler................13.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..25.00    World View....................24.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World Vision 3-Pak............39.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............26.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00
 Mega Clipart..................24.50    X11R5/GNU.....................24.00

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9407
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/28/93  7:19p
Subj: "SOFTER" ADULT CD'S 4SALE               Refer: NONE
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 Amateur Models................34.00    Girls of Mardi Gras (New!)....43.00
 American Girls (New!).........34.00    High Volume Nudes.............36.50
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......29.00    L.A. Strippers (Movie)........49.00
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......48.00    Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00
 Digital Dreams 1..............28.00    Photo Gallery.................34.00
 Digital Dreams 2 (New!).......29.00    Southern Beauties.............33.00
 Digital Dreams 2-Pak..........49.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

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From: JOHN GRANT                             Number: 9408
  To: JAMES CLEVENGER                          Date: 12/29/93  4:44p
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD-ROMs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JC> John, you may find your selection of Amiga-specific 
 JC> CD-ROMs will grow considerably in 1994 as more 
 JC> titles are released specifically for the Amiga CD32 
 JC> market.  The Amiga CD32 begins its American roll-
 JC> out campaign at the January CES.
 
Hi!  Thanks for the comeback! Yes, I am aware of the CD-32. It is truly an
AWESOME machine!! Full-motion video runs on it on the new video CDs (the coming
wave I am told by industry insiders), music CDs, music+G CDs, over 70% of the
CDTV titles, any ISO 9660 title, and to top it ALL off, there is an emulator
for the 3D0 coming out for it! At $350 (expected initial retail!), it blows ALL
the game machines away!! And, if THAT is not enough, it has the pin-outs for a
Virtual Reality helmet and gloves that are due out late next year!! Couple this
with a chip that allows DIRECT conversion from other platforms, and you have
what is ALREADY a MAJOR seller in Europe! Over 1/2 million units are ALREADY
sold, and the 3 lines of the factory are turning them out as FAST as they can
to try and keep up with the BACKLOG!!! Yes, I do know about the CD-32, but I
was sorta hoping for info on someone that had some AMIGA CD stock and was
wanting to sell it! Thanks for the input though anyway! Take care, and TTYL!

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From: STEVE FROST                            Number: 9409
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/29/93  4:17p
Subj: cd rom catalogs wanted                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hello folks..i am looking for CD rom catalogs that can be mailed to me.
and rather than search through the 400+ msgin this conference, im
hoping some kind souls might see this and just mail their catalogs to
me. if this can be done please mail them to
steve frost
4401 mark ave
las vegas, nv. 89108

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From: CARL REHAGEN                           Number: 9410
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/29/93  8:06a
Subj: CDROM Systems                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Texel Int 3021 Bare  Dr - $189.00

 Boris, is this a SCSI drive or does it require it's own card.
  Thanks
    Carl

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From: JOSH                                   Number: 9411
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/29/93 11:00p
Subj: ***Wanted!***                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If anyone out there has the any of the following CD's (new or used) I
would be interested in buying them... Thanks,

7th Guest
Rebel Assault
Comanche 100 missions CD
Microsoft Bookshelf (at least the '92 version)
Microsoft Encarta
Any DOS/Windows shareware CD, BBS ready...
CD-Blaster
ROMaterial
WinCD

I am also willing to trade (for the items above) or sell the following:

DOS 5.0 w/ ALL original manuals and things like that $15
CA-Simply Money $15
Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia for Windows 92 edition $60
Okidata dot-matrix printer $15
Back issues of almost ANY computer magazine for the last few years...

You can just e-mail me here if you are interested in buying, selling, or
trading... Reply to the handle JOSH... I am working on getting my last
name put on there... Thanks a lot,

--Josh-Christie--

 þ SLMR 2.1 þ 2400 baud, wake me up when the d/l is done...
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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 9412
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/28/93  7:18a
Subj: New disc                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Lee, what will be the name of your new cd disc?  Shareware or what?  BBS
ready?

Thanks
Randy

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 9413
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/29/93  5:07a
Subj: Adult disc for trade                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Physical Therapy for trade for another adult cd disc.  THis disc
has gifs and short motion clips on it.

Randy

 * QMPro 1.51 * STRING space corrupt?  But I always use TAPE!


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From: MARTIN YEE                             Number: 9414
  To: GARY FULLER                              Date: 12/28/93  2:25p
Subj: Re: macmillan dictionary                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GF> MY> Macmillan Dictionary for Children MPC CDROM w/warranty card but no
GF> MY> box - $23.00 shipped.
Hi Gary,
   Are you still interested in the CD ? I left you a message on your
   voice mail but it might have gotten lost in the holiday choas.

Martin Yee
ph: 415 923-9893

===
 * OLX 2.1 * MSI - Bringing it all together in '92


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 9415
  To: BILL WOOD                                Date: 12/30/93  6:48p
Subj: National Computer Outlet                Refer: 12838
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->                          NATIONAL COMPUTER OUTLET
->                             STONE WOOD VILLAGE
->                           2750 PELHAM ROAD SOUTH
->                           JACKSONVILLE, AL 36206

Foul!

Only advertise CD ROM products.

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 9416
  To: STEVE FROST                              Date: 12/30/93  6:53p
Subj: cd rom catalogs wanted                  Refer: 12879
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> steve frost
-> 4401 mark ave
-> las vegas, nv. 89108

We're all armed with SNIPPER.COM, so you're sure to get a catalog ;)

tim
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From: JOYCE ZWEEDYK                          Number: 9417
  To: JASON WAGNER                             Date: 12/28/93 11:13p
Subj: Looking for...                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Jason Wagner to All dated 12-26-93 ***
> I am looking for any company advertising here that is selling (new, I 
> don't
> want them used):



Check out Mike Shannon from Starvector!

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 9418
  To: DAVID THROCKMORTON                       Date: 12/29/93  6:22a
Subj: Flame XXX Adult CD  Super hot!!         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <26 Dec 93  14:04:00>, David Throckmorton (1:226/680) writes:

 >  No I dont want any "young" models on the drive. Sorry for being 
 >unclear.
I didn't figure you did, who would want those when there are so many 
beautiful women in thier 20's, 30's and 40's.
 > It seems that reasonable doubt doesnt apply with the FBI.  They took one 
 >of the gifs to a local doctor who looked at it and said that the girl 
 >"could" be under 18.  This seemed to be enough for the FBI and they  
>confiscated all the equiptment of the board as evidence in the case.
Sounds like a crock to me. Judging by some of the girls I have seen over by 
the local High Schools using the "could be under eighteen" could describe 
just about anybody but a wrinkled old woman. What are they feeding these kids 
anyways? 

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From: L RICHARD JOHNSON                      Number: 9419
  To: RICHARD JOHNSON                          Date: 12/29/93  4:56a
Subj: CD Rom Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello to my namesake! I have changed my name in the echo to L Richard Johnson
in hopes of avoiding any further confusion. Hopes this clears things up for
both of us! It was messing with my mind too!

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9420
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/29/93  2:35a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9421
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/29/93  2:35a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
                        ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $110.00 30day warrantee
Refurbished  NEC Model 36       CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee

                    ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee

                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
14.4 Power supply..................$10.00 ea.
external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
Shipping (drives)$25.00 for up to 2 drives,$40.00 for 3-4 drives.

                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
offering all
refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit, to be
shipped
upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30 days for
receipt of
your refurbished drive.

                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariant.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: BOB WISNESKI                           Number: 9422
  To: JOHN RICKER                              Date: 12/28/93  8:07p
Subj: CD'S 4 SALE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> AM|o| STORM 1 (XXX) - $22
->   |o| My Private Collection 1 (XXX) - $21
->   |o| My Private Collection 2 (XXX) - $21
Well the XXX cd's My friend may by for his board the Number to the
Board is (602)834-7540 At Twix Cookie Shop or you can talk to my bro at
Grendal's Bbs (602)649-1845 It may be worth the While BUT I will not
gurentee anything


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From: BOB WISNESKI                           Number: 9423
  To: WILLIAM WRIGHT                           Date: 12/28/93  8:10p
Subj: games and cd-roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  > NEW!! shareware cd-rom
->  >  Americas Premier Shareware  | CD-ROM    | $15  | good
Well How many shareware games are on and How much new is it You can
reach me through here or for faster Message call Grendal Bbs
(602)649-1845 14.4k So you won't have to worry if you have 14.4k also


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From: KEITH LOONEY                           Number: 9424
  To: KEVIN OYAMA                              Date: 12/29/93  7:34p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol. 1 ver. 1           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

From what I've heard, the ist version had Traci Lords pictures. This
was before she admitted being under 18. The law would consider it
child pornography which was why the later revisions didn't include
them.

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From: JAY TAYLOR                             Number: 9425
  To: MIKE GERVASI                             Date: 12/29/93  2:30p
Subj: Re: Battle Chess Enh                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  I have Battle Chess Enhanced that I would sell you for $25.  Let me
->  know if you still want it.
->
->  I'll take it if it's available. Where do I send a check?

I still have it and my address is:

Jay Taylor
6700 W Old Shakopee Rd #205
Bloomington, Mn 55438


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From: ROB O'DELL                             Number: 9426
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/27/93 11:28p
Subj: Discs WANTED                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'd like a package price on the following discs:

1 - Pier 3
2 - Night Owl 10.1      (Or 1 Night Owl 10.1 and 1 Pier 3)
1 - FAO set 1-3         (FAO 1, FAO 2 FAO 3)

I'm upgrading my BBS and need 5 discs, 2 shareware and the 3 FAO adult
discs.  The third is for a friend.  So I need 2 sharewares with little
dupes between them.  Is Pier 3 and Night 10.1 a good setup?

Contact me here or netmail to 1:2380/100 or 1:2380/80.


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From: SUE KAMALO                             Number: 9427
  To: LAWRENCE MINTZ                           Date: 12/29/93  9:50p
Subj: Night owl 10.1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LM> Two files with viruses detected in them in 10 have 
 LM> been removed from the disk in 10.1.

For the benefit of us newcomers, would you please PLEASE reveal the names of
those two files that were detected?  I would DIE if any of my users aquired a
virus from my board!!!!  Thank you.

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From: JAMES BLISS                            Number: 9428
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/29/93  9:24p
Subj: CHINON DRIVE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I HAVE A CHINON CDS-431 DRIVE FOR SALE
350MS ACCESS TIME
150KB TRANSFER RATE
50 PIN SCSI INTERFACE CARD (INCLUDED)
INTERNAL MOUNT
CADDY TYPE (WITH ONE CADDY)
THIS UNIT IS JUST OVER ONE YEAR OLD AND IS IN 
OUTSTANDING CONDITION.
$180.00 OBO

CALL 901-837-0666 ASK FOR JIM OR LEAVE A MESSAGE OR REPLY HERE.

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From: DARREL FARRIS                          Number: 9429
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/29/93  8:03p
Subj: CD-ROM Wanted                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone know of a CD-ROM disc which is mainly MIDI files? I am not 
interested in VOC, WAV, IFF, or MOD... just MIDI. If anyone has any please 
post it here...
                        Wishing you good HooHah,
                                  
                                  -Duckie

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From: PAT DELIN                              Number: 9430
  To: RICKY PURCELL                            Date: 12/28/93 12:00p
Subj: Re: KING'S QUEST VI - $25               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Ricky Purcell to Bryant Park ***

RP> Why are you selling it?  Would you take $20 for it?  Do you have
RP> the box and instructions still?  Thanks: Rick

I will pay 25$ for Kings Quest VI if this is the CD-ROM version

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From: JASON KOLLER                           Number: 9431
  To: BRIAN ELFERT                             Date: 12/29/93 10:26p
Subj: wholesalers                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Mitsumi is as cheap as it gets for a CD-ROM drive.

But they are also nicely supported too.  Maybe not TOO nice, but at
least they have OS/2 drivers for them.  The one I currently have doesn't
so I have to go to the trouble of selling it and getting a new one.  Oh
well.  Anyways,

Hi Everybody!  Have a couple things to sell -

1 - Talon CM255 CD-ROM Drive.  350ms access time.  Supports CDROM discs
    and Music CD's.  Included discs: A Line In The Sand, National
    Parks, and The Original Shareware 1992.  Also includes a 3.5" disk
    of needed drivers, will port over to 5.25".  Includes controller
    card, with sound output ont the back.  Works excellent.  This is an
    internal drive.  Used 7 months.
    $150 + shipping/negotiable.

Let me know with a reply in this echo, or the addresses in the tagline.
Voice number is (503)393-8315.  Thanks!

-Jason, ->1494 - RIME, 1:3406/20 - FIDO Netmail, 13:651/2 - SBCnet
Sysop, Terminal Velocity
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From: JASON KOLLER                           Number: 9432
  To: JEFF WEISS                               Date: 12/29/93 10:28p
Subj: *! Mitsumi 2X CD $219                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Mitsumi FX001D double-speed internal CD-ROM  ---  $219
-> 300 - 350 KBPS sustained throughput 280 - 250 ms average access time
-> AT bus interface card included All necessary signal and audio cables
-> included All necessary install software and manuals included
-> caddyless front loading tray (takes 3" CDs as well) headphone jack
-> with volume control

Hi Jeff..I am very interested in that drive.  Does it have OS/2
compatibility?  I know the older ones do, but does this one?  Are you
SURE?  :)  Thanks!

-Jason, ->1494 - RIME, 1:3406/20 - FIDO Netmail, 13:651/2 - SBCnet
Sysop, Terminal Velocity


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From: JASON KOLLER                           Number: 9433
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 12/29/93 10:49p
Subj: wholesalers                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Not True. Hitachi CDR-101A are only 171.00 and a far better drive
-> than the Mitsumi versions. We have them in stock, and they come plug
-> and play!

What is the speed of that drive?  If it's not double-speed, do you have
one in a double-speed version?  Thanks!

-Jason, ->1494 - RIME, 1:3406/20 - FIDO Netmail, 13:651/2 - SBCnet
Sysop, Terminal Velocity


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From: JASON KOLLER                           Number: 9434
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/30/93  1:16a
Subj: Printer/CDROM/Mice                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Everybody!  Have a couple things to sell -

1 - Citizen GSX-140 Color Printer.  Comes complete with installed color
    package, ribbon, manual, everything.  Prints perfectly, used about
    2-3 years.  Looks pretty good on the outside.  24-pin.  Cheapest
    price I have found for this printer in Computer Shopper was $400.
    I will sell it for $200 + shipping/negotiable.

2 - Mice.  First one is a Royal Mouse, never used, looks EXCELLENT!
    Second one is an info mouse.  Good for an entry level mouse.
    $10 for Royal, $5 for info + shipping.  Free mouse pad with each
    one.  Firm.

1 - Talon CM255 CD-ROM Drive.  350ms access time.  Supports CDROM discs
    and Music CD's.  Included discs: A Line In The Sand, National
    Parks, and The Original Shareware 1992.  Also includes a 3.5" disk
    of needed drivers, will port over to 5.25".  Includes controller card,
    with sound output on the back.  Works excellent.  This is an internal
    drive.  Used 7 months.
    $150 + shipping/negotiable.

Let me know with a reply in this echo, or the addresses in the tagline.
Voice number is (503)393-8315.  Thanks!

-Jason, ->1494 - RIME, 1:3406/20 - FIDO Netmail, 13:651/2 - SBCnet
Sysop, Terminal Velocity
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From: G. LARRY WEBB                          Number: 9435
  To: GERALD BANACH                            Date: 12/29/93  7:52a
Subj: LOOKING FOR SONY 535'S                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

excuse me for jumping in, but the soundblaster multi-cd sound card should
interface with your Sony CD ROM.... check with your local egghead or call 1 800
egghead. see ya...

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From: JON CHRISMAN                           Number: 9436
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/29/93  8:37p
Subj: CD 6-Pack                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Any one have any information on the Pioneer CD 6-pack? Am seriously looking at
adding it to my BBS system. Is it a good, strong, reliable product? Any and all
opinions would be appreciated. I will soon have over 10 CD's and the 6-pack
seems to be the most economical way than single CD units.

Happy New Year!
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From: JIM BECKHAM                            Number: 9437
  To: TOM MILLER                               Date: 12/30/93  3:37a
Subj: Re: MAC SHAREWARE CD FOR PC BBS         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Tom Miller wrote in a message to Jim Beckham:

 > Does anyone know of a CD that will provide Mac files on a PC-based
 > BBS?

TM> The "Giga-Rom Macintosh Archives Version 2.0" will work,
TM> the Mac user has to "process them". It is ISO 9660
TM> compatiable though...

In what way do the files have to be processed? Do the directories contain
Files.BBS description format?

Jim

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From: JEREMY MCKANE                          Number: 9438
  To: JEFF WEISS                               Date: 12/28/93 10:06a
Subj: Re: *! Custom CD-ROMs                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

When You say that you can transfer 650MB do you mean you are using top and
bottom

... SENILE.COM found . . . Out Of Memory . . .
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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 9439
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 12/29/93 11:00p
Subj: Night owl 10.1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 12-25-93  16:39 Dave Reed said something about Night owl 10.1, to which I
reply: 
 
 ->> N I G H T  O W L  10.1
 SB> What are the differences between 10 and 10.1?
 DR> Viruses.

The added more?


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From: ANTHONY FURGISON                       Number: 9440
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/30/93  8:11a
Subj: Hitachi cdroms                          Refer: NONE
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Will talk to him within the next few days. He's hard to get ahold of. I'll get
back to you.

Tony

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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 9441
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 12/30/93  4:46p
Subj: Bodacious Beauties - NewODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New Re  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <12-25-93 14:36> Max Green wrote:

MG>> DV>> The photographers were not willing to allow their images
MG>> DV>> to be distributed without compensation.  We came up with
MG>> DV>> $25.00 per node, which we felt was very reasonable as it
MG>> DV>> represents less than one subscription fee (Generally
MG>> DV>> speaking; many sysops charge $50.00 and more as you know).
MG>> DV>> If a sysop has more than one node, then he must have the
MG>> DV>> subscriber base to support those additional nodes.
MG>> DV>> The licensing fee would still represent less than one
MG>> DV>> subscription fee.
MG>> DV>> Please let me know if you agree that this is a nominal fee.

MG>> Absolutely unreasonable and ridiculous.  I am keeping it in my
MG>> pants (money) regarding this CD, you can make book on that!
MG>> Just for your information there are also MANY low/no cost access
MG>> BBS's throughout the country.  You have NO idea what each SysOp
MG>> charges for access to their BBS, so your statement re: "Generally
MG>> speaking; many sysops charge $50.00 and more as you know", is
MG>> without validation and represents a Very Poor assessment (guess)
MG>> on your part.

Max, I am sorry you feel that a $25.00 per node licensing fee is
unreasonable and ridiculous.  The low/no cost access BBSs througout
the country will have to make a decision whether or not to put
Bodacious Beauties on line.  The "generally speaking" reference in
my post qualifies that not all BBSs charge $50.00 and more, but many
do!  By the way, I know of no BBS that gives ADULT access for free.
Perhaps you could post a list of the BBSs you are talking about, as
I have a lot of friends who would like to download adult images for
free.

MG>> You are already assessing a fee for the purchase of the CD, out
MG>> of that pot; there should be something for the photographers,
MG>> some for yourself and some for the CD mfg.  And, now you want to
MG>> extract an additional fee from me.  Why not price the CD at
MG>> $50.00 if thats what you need to make some money from it?

You are correct that we assess a fee to OWN Bodacious Beauties which
does indeed include something for the photographers and GIoF.  If all
you wish is to own the disc and view the images, there is no additional
cost.  If you wish to distribute the images, the photographers (and I
agree with them) feel they should receive additional royalties.  Those
who do not wish to distribute the images, and simply own and enjoy the
disc, should not be charged for your right to distribute the images.

MG>> I see by prices posted by other dealers in this echo (basis for
MG>> my validation on this topic), that most adult CDs range in price
MG>> from $29.00 to $50.00 (the hi end are movies), so you come in
MG>> here *LOW BALLING* all competition and then try to screw the
MG>> buying public.  No one in his/her right mind is willing to pay
MG>> $50.00 for still images and you know it.  Well looks like you got
MG>> caught even before you got to the starting blocks.

I do not see how you can accuse me of " *LOW BALLING* all competition
and then try to screw the buying public."; when, I never indicated any
price for Bodacious Beauties.  Who said anything about charging $50.00
for the disc?

MG>> I would like to suggest that you read the sales ads in this
MG>> conference to give yourself (an education) an idea of what is going
MG>> on in the market place.  If the product you are selling is as good
MG>> as you claim, it will sell itself, providing you market and price
MG>> it appropriately.

First of all, I did not claim that Bodacious Beauties is good or any
other descriptive opinion or hype.  I have only posted the STATISTICS
regarding the disc.  I will let you -- if you get a chance to see it --
Bob Jackson, and the rest of the buying public determine it's qualities
or lack thereof.  In regard to what is going on in the marketplace, we
do not set our prices or our policies based on what everyone else is
doing.  We all have different products, each of them
worth whatever the free market system will provide.

MG>> Please don't come in here with your guns blazing, you asked an
MG>> open question in this public forum therefore, standby for the
MG>> responses.  As you can see you have already heard from me.

If by your comment about coming in here with your guns blazing, you
are referring to the tone of this response, I am pleased to have your
input and opinion or I would not have asked if our licensiong fee
was not reasonable.  We all have our own opinion and are entitiled to
it.  As I indicated above, I am sorry you do not agree with me.

MG>> Thanks for the info about what type of support we can expect
MG>> from you, Merry Xmas too.

I don't exactly know what you mean by "what type of support we can
expect from you".  If you run an adult BBS and feel $25.00 per node
is unreasonable, there are other discs you can put on line.

I hope you had a Merry Christmas and would like to wish you a Happy
and Prosperous New Year!!!  
 
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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 9442
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/30/93  4:47p
Subj: Montgomery vs Noga                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <12-19-93 14:10> Lee Noga wrote:

LN>> DV>> In regard to my activity in writing to you asking for
LN>> DV>> damages, being present during your deposition, and
LN>> DV>> collaborating with the attorney in court; I am the
LN>> DV>> VPIC licensing agent and was acting in that capacity.

LN>> Oh really, VPIC, INC. does not hold the copyright, Bob
LN>> Montgomery does, therefore your involvement in the suit,
LN>> is one of interest and not one of necessity.

LN>> DV>> It is interesting to me, what you would like to imply
LN>> DV>> to the people who read this echo. From what you say,
LN>> DV>> it would appear that you prevailed in the case.

LN>> Did the judge grant you what you asked for ? Both requests
LN>> were *SHOT* down. So, let's just say, we faired quite well.

LN>> DV>> Didn't you get a copy of the Judge's order?

LN>> Yup. That's when we broke out the bottle of champagne.
LN>> Didn't want to celebrate prematurely.

LN>> DV>> said, "Defendants Rebecca Noga and Florida Lion's Den

LN>> Just a little update--Its Bob Montgomery vs Rebecca Noga &
LN>> Florida Lions Den vs Blaine R. Richard III. Is this not your
LN>> business partner that has been recently added to the suit ?


Mr. Montgomery will be posting a message to ALL discussing this
topic and what you have to say in this post.  Please refer to that!

Unless you have a correction to my post of October 31, 1993, I
neither have the time nor the inclination to continue interfacing
with you on this subject.  
 
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From: BOB MONTGOMERY                         Number: 9443
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/30/93  5:33p
Subj: Montgomery vs Noga et al                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DV>> In regard to my activity in writing to you asking for damages,
DV>> being present during your deposition, and collaborating with
DV>> the attorney in court; I am the VPIC licensing agent and was
DV>> acting in that capacity.

LN>> Oh really, VPIC, INC. does not hold the copyright, Bob
LN>> Montgomery does, therefore your involvement in the suit, is
LN>> one of interest and not one of necessity.

DV>> It is interesting to me, what you would like to imply to the
DV>> people who read this echo.  From what you say, it would appear
DV>> that you prevailed in the case.

LN>> Did the judge grant you what you asked for ? Both requests were
LN>> *SHOT* down. So, let's just say, we faired quite well.

DV>> Didn't you get a copy of the Judge's order?

LN>> Yup. That's when we broke out the bottle of champagne. Didn't
LN>> want to celebrate prematurely.

DV>> said, "Defendants Rebecca Noga and Florida Lion's Den

LN>> Just a little update--Its Bob Montgomery vs Rebecca Noga &
LN>> Florida Lions Den vs Blaine R. Richard III. Is this not your
LN>> business partner that has been recently added to the suit ?


DV>> Mr. Montgomery will be posting a message to ALL discussing
DV>> this topic and what you have to say in this post.  Please
DV>> refer to that!

DV>> Unless you have a correction to my post of October 31, 1993,
DV>> I neither have the time nor the inclination to continue
DV>> interfacing with you on this subject.


Since Ms. Noga chooses to discuss this lawsuit on line, it has
become necessary for me to post this message.  I am the author
of VPIC, which is a program for viewing image files.

The following is a brief summary of my lawsuit against The Florida
Lion's Den (and it's only stockholder, Ms. Lee Noga), hereafter
referred to as FLD.  FLD is responsible for publishing the
following CDROMs which used my VPIC program as a utility for
viewing pictures contained on the discs.

1. Ecstacy Hot Pics - consists mainly of adult pictures.  First
   pressing in August, 1992.  Second pressing in February, 1993.
2. Busty Babes - consists mainly of adult pictures.  First pressing
   in December, 1992. Second pressing in February, 1993.  Third
   pressing in July, 1993.
3. PowerPak Gold - consists mainly of shareware.  First pressing
   in February, 1993.
4. Encyclopedia of Clipart - consists mainly of clipart pictures.
   First pressing in May, 1993.

I was granted a US Copyright for VPIC on August 8, 1990, which
was 2 years before the Ecstacy Hot Pics CD was released.  The VPIC
program contains a copyright notice screen which comes up each
time you quit the program.  It states that if you use VPIC you
should register it.  It is also required to obtain a Utility
License agreement for it's use on any product.  FLD knew that
the program was copyrighted, required registration and a licensing
agreement.  FLD never registered VPIC nor licensed it for use
on their products.

By my estimation and based on statements made by Ms. Noga, FLD
sold a total of about 55,000 CD's which used VPIC to view the
images, and made an estimated $600,000 before expenses.  We are
talking about a lot of money being made, by 'stealing' other
peoples work.  It's like finding a car with the keys in it (the
VPIC shareware is not crippled in any way), and driving away and
assuming you now own it and can use it whenever you like.

The VPIC program has a mechanism built in to allow another
application to call it with a filename, and VPIC will display the
file and then return to the calling application without changing
the screen or printing any messages.  This essentially adds graphics
capability to other programs that can't normally do graphics, such
as databases.  This is the feature that FLD used.  The CDROM user
would not even know that VPIC was being used.  This would lead the
user to assume that FLD either owned or had rights to the viewing
mechanism.

The lawsuit has gotten as far as a preliminary injunction ordering
FLD to:

1. Stop using VPIC in their products.
2. Post a BBS message advising users that the infringing products
   were produced without a license.
3. Advise infringing product users, sellers, and distributors that
   these products are subject to payment of a licensing fee to me.

Apparently Ms. Noga considers this a victory for her cause,
whatever that may be.  She mentioned on this echo that she broke
out the bottle of champagne to celebrate, when she received the
judge's order.  What it really means is (in the judge's words):

1. There is a substantial likelihood that I will prevail on the
   merits.
2. There is a substantial threat that I will suffer irreparable
   damages if the preliminary injunction is not granted.
3. That the threatened injury outweighs the threatened harm the
   preliminary injunction may do to the defendant.
4. That granting the preliminary injunction will not disserve the
   public interest.
The next step will be to schedule a jury trial for determining
the amount the defendants owe me.

FLD does not deny that they used the VPIC software illegally
(without registering, licensing, or paying royalties) on their
CDROM's, so what are they celebrating?  Do they hope to get away
with using my program without paying for it's use?

I retained the services of Mr. David van Gelder to negotiate the
licensing of VPIC.  Mr. van Gelder is very knowledgable about
business matters, negotiations, and understands the costs and
potential profits involved in CDROM publishing.  He wrote a
certified letter to FLD stating that they had used VPIC illegally,
and requested payment for it's use, or we would take further action.
Mr. van Gelder also requested that any response be in writing and
sent by certified mail.  We requested that she respond in writing so
that there would be no disputing what was said.  Ms. Noga contacted
me by telephone and I told her I would get back to her.  I then got
together with Mr. van Gelder, and called to advise her to respond to
the letter by certified mail, as requested.  Ms. Noga continued
discussing the letter with me, so I handed the phone to Mr. van
Gelder who informed her to please respond by certified mail.  Ms.
Noga told Mr. van Gelder that her attorney advised her not to
respond to the letter.  Mr. van Gelder told her that she should do
whatever her attorney advised, and said goodbye.  We received no
response, and the distribution of CDROM products with VPIC continued
unabated.  Thus, to protect future business, I was forced to sue FLD
thru the legal system.  If FLD gets away without paying any royalty
payments, everyone will assume that they can do it too.

Ms. Noga also keeps trying to muddy the waters by bringing up the
fact that Mr. van Gelder wrote her as VPIC's licensing agent and
that the copyright is held by me personally.  VPIC Inc. is a
subchapter S corporation formed solely for income tax purposes.
VPIC is the name of the program and Mr. van Gelder negotiates it's
licensing or lack thereof.

Ms. Noga sued Blaine Richard as a "third party defendant".  Mr.


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From: BOB MONTGOMERY                         Number: 9444
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/30/93  5:33p
Subj: Montgomery vs Noga et al                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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Richard was an employee of FLD responsible for the technical aspects
of production, while Ms. Noga was responsible for handling the
business affairs, which includes licensing and royalty negotiations.
Mr. Richard was fired by FLD around the end of April, 1993, for
including copyrighted material on the Busty Babes disc.  But, the
Encyclopedia of Clipart disc (containing VPIC) was pressed after Mr.
Richard's termination.

Hopefully, the judge's issuance of an injunction will serve as a
warning to others that copyright infringement is serious and will
not go unpunished.  
 
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From: MATT SCHUTTLOFFEL                      Number: 9445
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 12/29/93  3:37p
Subj: MS BK SHELF 1991?                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Calculus (Anton) 1st 3 chapters ................  $20

Is this to accompany the college calculus text "Howard Anton's Calculus"?  If
so, where did you purchase this disk? What do you mean by `1st 3 chapters?'  In
the book, there are quite a bit more than three chapters, so does this mean
that I'd need to purchase more disks?  If so, are they available, and where?


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From: JASON BURKHART                         Number: 9446
  To: BOB KOSIN                                Date: 12/29/93 11:38a
Subj: Cd-rom Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry that's just a little slow for me. But thanx for the offer.
Putrifactor
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From: HARRY LEWIS                            Number: 9447
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 12/30/93 12:31a
Subj: For Sale./                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CS> Sony CDU-31A CD-Rom drive and Pro Audio Spectrum 16 bit sound card.
 CS> 300ms, 150kb transfer rate on the drive.

 CS> $250 or best offer.

How about $75 for the sound card?   I'm sure you could get more than $175 for
the CD-rom by itself.  Give me your phone # and I can talk to you about it.

Harry


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From: JOHN JEWELL                            Number: 9448
  To: HARRY LEWIS                              Date: 12/30/93  1:56a
Subj: Re: For Sale./                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HL> How about $75 for the sound card?   I'm sure you could get more than $175 f
HL> the CD-rom by itself.  Give me your phone # and I can talk to you about it.
Hey, talk to your good buddy and mine<cough cough> Mike King, he got a SB 16 
for $40... That's DIRT CHEAP.

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From: JOYCE ZWEEDYK                          Number: 9449
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 12/30/93 10:08a
Subj: Carmen San Diego                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How about $20 plus shipping for the game?

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From: ERIC RUCK                              Number: 9450
  To: JOHN VAN HARE                            Date: 12/29/93  1:50a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Double Speeds               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting John Van Hare to All <=-

 JVH> OK, the Mitsumi double speed CDROMs are down to 197.00 cash and carry
 JVH> at Best  Buy, anyone can beat this?


 Where or Who is selling these..   NEED MORE INPUT...  Please..





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From: WILLIAM WRIGHT                         Number: 9451
  To: BOB WISNESKI                             Date: 12/30/93  2:02p
Subj: games and cd-roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BW>reach me through here or for faster Message call Grendal Bbs
BW>(602)649-1845 14.4k So you won't have to worry if you have 14.4k
BW>also

I dunno, I didn't post that.


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From: LOUIS KUHELJ                           Number: 9452
  To: KEN ISBELL                               Date: 12/29/93 12:29p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Catalog                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Ken Isbell to Jim Lambert <=-

 LK>If you are looking for great prices on the latest CD-Roms, give us a
 LK>call or post your address, and we will be glad to send you our latest
 LK>price list.  We also have a 44 page catalog complete with descriptions

     Do you carry shareware as well? If you do, do you have the latest
    files. I'm looking for a collection that would have mostly if not
    exclusively 1993 shareware. I would prefer that it be BBS ready if
    at all possible. If you have something like that, I am defenetly
    interested. Let me know. You can netmail me at 1:2613/105...24hrs.

					      Thanks,
						     Louis


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From: CHUCK ADAMS                            Number: 9453
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/29/93 10:49p
Subj: External cd-rom kit                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anybody know where I can get a kit to mount my CD-Rom externally?

Chuck


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From: MARIO LERMITTE                         Number: 9454
  To: *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DI          Date: 12/27/93 11:02p
Subj: For The largest selection               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hallo,

In een berichtje op Woensdag 22 December 1993, schreef jij aan All:

 *Fhcd> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.

Please send it to me

Mario Lermitte
Zwartkloosterstraat 5
2800 Mechelen
Belgium

Vriendelijke groeten,
Mario


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 9455
  To: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                         Date: 12/30/93  8:30a
Subj: Re: Garage Sale (or Trade)...           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GK> NE2000 SMC clone LAN cards
GK> Network cables of various lengths, T connectors, and terminators
GK> Okidata u92 9 pin printer


Prices would be nice ????

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From: EDGAR CATO                             Number: 9456
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/30/93  8:43a
Subj: Moderator                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DOES THIS ECHO HAVE A MODERATOR??????????
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9457
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/30/93 12:25a
Subj: BB                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LN>MS>> Hey Lee, any word on a vol 2 rel 2 or something along those lines?

LN>Sounds as if its rumour--Vol II is solid and remains at release 1.0-
LN>What's got ya confused :) ? No reason to re-master as of yet.

No confusion, just wondering when the next in the series was going to be
released, if ever.

.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9458
  To: JON PERSKY                               Date: 12/30/93 12:25a
Subj: Shareware CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JP>Can anyone lead me toward some quality shareware CD's for my BBS? My ideal
go
JP>is to have one general shareware CD, one games-oriented CD, and one
JP>Windows-oriented CD. FILES.BBS is a MUST and I would prefer that the files
be
JP>relatively recent (mostly 1993, a few '92s are ok). And I don't want to
spend
JP>more than $100 for all three. If anybody can point me in the right
direction,
JP>even if all my specs don't match, please get back to me.

Jon,

We have several that would fit your needs, but I would recommend either
Pier 3 or CD Powerbox 2 as the best general-purpose shareware CD.  Both are
"all-93" CD's, with Powerbox 2 being only about a week old.  Both are $29.
For games and Windows, check out the Software Vault Windows Collection and
Games Collection.  All '93 on the Windows Collection, and 90% '93 on the
Games Collection.  $26 each.  All have FILES.BBS also.  Can make you a
3-CD package on any of the above for $69. If you're interested, just give
us a call!  In stock and can ship same day.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9459
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/30/93 12:25a
Subj: NEW CD-ROM PAKS                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #5: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS   |
         |________________________________________________________|

  --- GAMES ---

   1. Games Collection     2. Night Owl Games     3. MVP Game Jamboree
      Games 1993              Game Master            House of Games
      Game Arena              Giga Games             Gameware Collection
      ----------              ----------             -------------------
      $49                     $49                    $49

  --- WINDOWS ---

   4. Win Platinum         5. Night Owl Windows   6. Windows Collection
      CD Winbox 1.01          CICA Windows           Windows Companion
      Windows Collection      Window Master          Windows 1993
      ------------------      -------------          ------------
      $55                     $52                    $59

  --- SHAREWARE ---

   7. Software Vault 1     8. Pier 2              9. Monster Media 93
      Software Vault 2        Pier 3                 Shareware Online 2
      Software Vault Gold     CD Powerbox 2          Shareware Studio 3
      -------------------     -------------          ------------------
      $54                     $59                    $65

  --- "R"-RATED ADULT ---

  10. Amateur Models      11. Digital Dreams 1   12. High Volume Nudes
      Busty Babes 2           Digital Dreams 2       Giffy Gold
      Southern Beauties       American Girls         Photo Gallery
      -----------------       --------------         -------------
      $79                     $79                    $89

  --- CLIPART ---

  13. Publique Art            Clipart Warehouse     Encyclopedia of Clipart
      DTPro                   Fresh Arte            Publisher's Dream Disc
      Clipart Goliath         Publisher's Paradise  Clipart Heaven
      ---------------         --------------------  -------------------
      $65                     $65                   $73

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * We now return to our regularly scheduled flame-throwing.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9460
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/30/93 12:25a
Subj: CD-ROM SALE!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #4:  CD-ROM LIQUIDATION!   |
         |________________________________________________________|

            All sales are final - Sale limited to stock on hand!

Mega Clipart........$22   Shareware Studio 2..$16   Wrath of the Demon..$27
World Vision 3-Pak..$37   Business Phonebk 91.$13   Bookshelf 1992......$32
Mac Shareware.......$17   Precision Mapping...$66   Mac M/M Space.......$29
CD Winbox...........$17   DTPro...............$24   Talking Jungle Safa.$29
Action Traveler.....$25   Phoenix 4.0.........$17   Wildcat Gold........$17
Funny...............$29   Int'l Graphics Libr.$25   Reel Clips..........$24
Library of Future...$37   Home Designer.......$27   Arizona Images......$19
Cinemania 1993......$52   Software Vault 1....$15   CD Powerbox.........$13
King's Quest V......$17   Hobbes OS/2 1992....$10   Sights & Sounds.....$21
K-Tracks Sound F/X..$17   Sounds for Windows..$15   Canadian Shareware..$17

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * The magic of Windoze: Turning a 486 into an XT.

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From: JOHN RICKERSON                         Number: 9461
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/29/93  8:05p
Subj: NEWEST SHAREWARE CD!                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hello Mike!

27 Dec 93 15:40, Mike Shannon wrote to All:

 MS>             ____________________________________________________
 MS>            |                                                    |
 MS>            |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
 MS>            |____________________________________________________|
 MS>             _______________________________    _________________
 MS>            |                               |  |                 |
 MS>            |     Title:  CD POWERBOX 2     |  |   Price:  $29   |
 MS>            |_______________________________|  |_________________|

 MS>       The % of dupes between PowerBox2 and NOWL10 = 7.94% * PIER3 = 12.85%

What program / how do you determine the % of dupes between two CD's ?

Thanks
 John

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From: JAMES CLEVENGER                        Number: 9462
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 12/29/93  7:00a
Subj: Re: Hitachi CDR-3600 $$ Wars            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can you please give a little more detail on the Hitachi drive you are
advertising?  What are the specifics of the drive and what is the price?


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 9463
  To: EDGAR CATO                               Date: 01/01/94  5:21p
Subj: Moderator                               Refer: 12926
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> DOES THIS ECHO HAVE A MODERATOR??????????

Yep, me!

tim
moderator
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From: JERRY CORNELIUS                        Number: 9464
  To: JAMES PARKER                             Date: 12/31/93  2:55p
Subj: Adult CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JP>That makes sense.  I'll have to check out one of the still images one.
JP>What would you suggest for a "first timer"?  It doesn't matter -
JP>hardcore or Hustler type stuff.

I'm happy with the Hot Pix series.  Stay away from Private Pictures,
it's almost an empty disc, lots of duplicates with other discs, and
about half the GIFs are clothed.  I've heard that Asian Ladies is mostly
empty too.  Busty Babes is apparently a fairly bland collection of
photos showing posed models without actual action.  XXX-treme (aka
Physical Therapy) is cheap and good.

What I'd suggest is that you buy the least expensive disc but keep in
mind how full the disc is.  $19 for a 40M disc is a bad deal compared to
$35 for 600M.  After you've bought one disc it becomes more treacherous
since many of the discs have the same material on them.  The only remedy
for that, I'm afraid, is to ask someone who's already sampled the
overlaps.  There was a bloke around here somewhere who was comparing the
various discs and posting overlap ratios...

 * SLMR 2.1 * 

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From: BOB WISNESKI                           Number: 9465
  To: WILLIAM WRIGHT                           Date: 12/31/93 10:36p
Subj: games and cd-roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ok I am sorry


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From: RICK PEDLEY                            Number: 9466
  To: JAY TAYLOR                               Date: 12/31/93  9:48a
Subj: Battle chess enh                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  I'll take it if it's available. Where do I send a check?

JT>I still have it and my address is:

JT>Jay Taylor
JT>6700 W Old Shakopee Rd #205
JT>Bloomington, Mn 55438

So I take it you didn't get my netmail? :-(

Rick

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From: JAMES JOHNSON                          Number: 9467
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/31/93 12:19p
Subj: RE: Re: Pioneer 6 Cd-Changer Wanted     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ðt

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9468
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/01/94  1:59a
Subj: HOT CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            C R E A M     O F     T H E     C R O P    I I

OVER 654 MEGS New Shareware   4987 Files Dated '93'  Dup Checked
Virus Checked                 Files.BBS Support      Multi Line Discription
Mouse Support Menu            14Megs Prog Code       Plus MORE !!!
Only 200 prog Older Than April '93' - 10% Dup to NO10, Pier3, Software Gold

DEALERS WELCOME.......      PRICE - $25.

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263   FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9469
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/01/94  1:59a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       A L L  N E W  C D  "S O  M U C H  M O D E M  M A D N E S S"

   7,200 Files             Over 600+ Megs                BBS Ready
   Rip Graphics - BBS Doors - BBS Programs - Modem Utils - Ham Radio
 Desqview - Ansi Graphics - Programming - OS/2 Communcation - Comm Prgs
 Networking Utils - Netmail Progs - Win Communcation - Transfer Protocol
 and a whole lot more......
                              Price - $25.00

 ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... This Tag line is Stolen.
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From: JORDAN FEINMAN                         Number: 9470
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/29/93  3:56p
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD                             Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Are your OS/2 CDs in the ISO9660 format?

Jordan




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From: ROGER BARR                             Number: 9471
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/29/93 10:35p
Subj: VIRUS CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

This is actually to everyone out there....
anyone know of any Virus cd-roms that would contain a collection of viruses as
well as information on them. I am really interested in studying them. (not to
mention protect from them :)
[C
Call my BBs in VA if ya get the chance also.
DoD 804-378-6281
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From: DAVID DACUS                            Number: 9472
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/31/93  5:26p
Subj: Trade                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am trying to trade or sell 12 megs of memory (1X32 simm sticks) I have
three, 4meg simms that I am trying to trade for an Internal CDROM or
MIDI equipment, such as a Roland MT-32 or Roland SCC1.  Call
(619)297-2456.
OF course if you just want to Buy the Memory call.


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From: BOB LEAR                               Number: 9473
  To: PAUL SCHIFFERLI                          Date: 12/13/93  7:22a
Subj: CENSORSHIP                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PS>The latest issue of PC Magazine informs all readers that they will no
PS>longer accept adds of an ADULT nature with Graphics.  I note that the
PS>Editor is a woman.  You would think that everyone would have learned by
PS>now that censoring doesn't work.  They are targeting the CD-ROM
PS>collections in particular.
PS>To the all seeing person who reviews messages.  I am a casual user and
PS>do not know if this is the proper place for the above, but the CD-ROM
PS>tie in seemed logical to me.
PS>To all, why not let PC Mag know how you feel about the issue.

I own a number of adult ROMS.  I support the concept and resent any
restrictions on making them available to any adult who wants to own
them.

But I also believe that PC Mag and any other publication has a right to
control the content of their publication.  No doubt, many readers are
offended by very graphic ads for adult ROMS, and I can't think of any
reason why a magazine should be obligated to run material that may
offend a portion of its readership.
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From: ERNIE ROBINSON                         Number: 9474
  To: ROY POXON                                Date: 12/28/93  4:48p
Subj: Re: Employment Advice                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RP>  I would like to offer these suggestions to all of you out there  RP> who
are unemployed, seeking a career change or looking for that  RP> first job.

RP> First the bad news! Don't look for the good times of the '80's  RP> to
return. Many of the jobs which have recently been removed  RP> from industry
have gone for good. Companies are getting leaner  RP> and meaner. In this
global economy they have no choice. All the  RP> developed countries are in
the same boat. Fifteen million 
RP> unemployed in the EEC alone. However, there IS light at the end  RP> of
the tunnel.

RP> If you have the necessary skills, there ARE jobs out there.

RP> Companies are very particular about who they hire these days.  RP> They
are looking for very specific skill sets and if your resume  RP> does not
address the company's requirements, your resume gets  RP> dumped in file 13.

RP> I would like to suggest that, as well as replying to 
RP> advertisements, you also list your skill sets and make a 
RP> judgement as to what kinds of jobs you would be comfortable in  RP> and
qualified to perform. You might be surprised at the results.  RP> It gets you
away from thinking about one job title.

RP> Next, try to decide what industries you would be comfortable  RP> working
in. That is, in which do you have experience or could  RP> easily fit into. To
very much simplify an example, mining is  RP> much like oil and gas. They are
both natural resource 
RP> industries. Extraction methodologies are very similar. Only the  RP> end
product is different. Again, you will surprise yourself with  RP> the outcome
of this exercise.

RP> You now have two criteria: what you can do and where you can do  RP> it.

RP> Now comes the hard part. You have to identify those companies  RP> which
meet your industry choices. Visit the main library and  RP> look for industry
reference books. These will have most 
RP> companies in Canada categorized BY industry. Who they are, where  RP> they
are, what they do, etc. They will also have some 
RP> information on corporate officers: names, titles and so on. 
RP> Financial information may also be present. If not, you can look  RP> for
that in Standard and Poore's, Dun and Bradstreet, etc., all  RP> useful
sources of information. If you have trouble in locating  RP> what you are
after, you will find that the librarian will be  RP> only too happy to point
you in the right direction. Try to get  RP> the most up to date information.
The best source is the main  RP> reference library on College Street in
Toronto, but try your  RP> local main library first. Also ask if they maintain
a newspaper  RP> cutting service. This will provide additional information
about  RP> the companies you finally select to approach. Are they still in 
RP> business? What changes have occurred over the past six months or  RP> so?
There will be many questions you may wish to have answered.

RP> This research will help you to pinpoint those companies to whom  RP> you
can send what we call BLIND LETTERS. These letters are 
RP> basically unsolicited job applications. With the information you  RP> have
gathered you will be in a much better position to present  RP> yourself in
your resume and covering letter. If you get as far  RP> as an interview, all
the better. Gives you a chance to really  RP> shine with your knowledge of the
company. This research is very  RP> important, so take your time and don't be
discouraged.

RP> Covering letters and resumes should be customized to reflect not  RP> only
your past experience, but also your knowledge of the 
RP> company you are writing to, their products and anything else  RP> which
you can think of. Don't go overboard at this point, just a  RP> brief sentence
or two will suffice. Remember, there are a lot of  RP> people out there
looking for a job. You have to gain the 
RP> advantage.

RP> Blind letters should NEVER be written to human resource or 
RP> employment offices, they only get trashed, and are a waste of  RP> your
time and the cost of the postage stamp. Always write to the  RP> head of the
department where you would like to work - one of the  RP> results of your
research. In our experience, most of the time  RP> you will get a reply to
your letters, even though some of them  RP> may be a "Dear John" type. If this
is the case, call up the 
RP> person to whom you wrote and just ask him/her if they could give  RP> you
a critique of your resume. Did they think it was well put  RP> together? How
could it be improved upon? Now you are asking for  RP> their advice, not a
job, and most people will be glad to give it  RP> to you. It doesn't cost them
anything and most likely boosts  RP> their ego a little.

RP> Keep your resume down to three pages at the most. Make sure that  RP> the
information you are presenting is brief, to the point and  RP> truthful.

RP> By all means use the "body shops" and "head hunters", but 
RP> remember that they rarely interview. The majority simply send  RP> your
resume in response to a clients request as a "fit". In 
RP> other words they are paper shufflers. However, you might get  RP> lucky,
particularly if you have a well written and 
RP> professionally presented resume.

RP> Looking for and finding a job can be a frustrating and 
RP> protracted experience. Look upon it as a learning experience. Go  RP> back
to school, night classes if necessary. It looks good on a  RP> resume and adds
to your marketable skill sets. It also tells a  RP> prospective employer that
you are serious about continuing your  RP> education. A very important
consideration. Get into a routine.  RP> Get up each morning at the same time,
have a work plan for each  RP> day. Read those books you always meant to. Keep
your mind 
RP> active. Take regular exercise - walking, it doesn't have to be  RP>
strenuous.

RP> These caveats apply to those who are unemployed:

RP> If you are contemplating going into business for yourself, BE  RP> VERY
CAREFUL. If you need financing, don't let anyone fool you  RP> into giving up
equity in your home, you may very well loose it  RP> if your business is not
successful! As many have learned to 
RP> their dismay. Do not be taken in by promises of "unlimited 
RP> income" in franchise deals. The only person making money is the  RP>
person who sells you the franchise. Approach every scheme with  RP> your eyes
open. Don't be taken in by vague and unsubstantiated  RP> claims for financial
success. Unless you are absolutely sure of  RP> what you are getting into,
keep your money in your pocket. 
RP> Charity begins at home <G> Don't forget, there's no such thing  RP> as a
free lunch!

RP> But most importantly, DO NOT DESPAIR. You are in good company.

RP> And remember:

RP> a smile costs nothing, there's nothing to pay and it might just  RP> make
somebody's day.

RP> Good luck in your endeavours. Hope that the above has been of  RP> some
assistance. Talk to me any time.. Always glad to help.

RP> ... CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL - Your window on opportunity _ Blue  RP>
Wave/QWK v2.12 --- T.A.G. 2.6f2a Beta  * Origin: The Gatehouse  RP> BBS *
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From: ERNIE ROBINSON                         Number: 9475
  To: ROY POXON                                Date: 12/28/93  4:49p
Subj: Re: Employment Advice                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RP>  I would like to offer these suggestions to all of you out there  RP> who
are unemployed, seeking a career change or looking for that  RP> first job.

RP> First the bad news! Don't look for the good times of the '80's  RP> to
return. Many of the jobs which have recently been removed  RP> from industry
have gone for good. Companies are getting leaner  RP> and meaner. In this
global economy they have no choice. All the  RP> developed countries are in
the same boat. Fifteen million 
RP> unemployed in the EEC alone. However, there IS light at the end  RP> of
the tunnel.

RP> If you have the necessary skills, there ARE jobs out there.

RP> Companies are very particular about who they hire these days.  RP> They
are looking for very specific skill sets and if your resume  RP> does not
address the company's requirements, your resume gets  RP> dumped in file 13.

RP> I would like to suggest that, as well as replying to 
RP> advertisements, you also list your skill sets and make a 
RP> judgement as to what kinds of jobs you would be comfortable in  RP> and
qualified to perform. You might be surprised at the results.  RP> It gets you
away from thinking about one job title.

RP> Next, try to decide what industries you would be comfortable  RP> working
in. That is, in which do you have experience or could  RP> easily fit into. To
very much simplify an example, mining is  RP> much like oil and gas. They are
both natural resource 
RP> industries. Extraction methodologies are very similar. Only the  RP> end
product is different. Again, you will surprise yourself with  RP> the outcome
of this exercise.

RP> You now have two criteria: what you can do and where you can do  RP> it.

RP> Now comes the hard part. You have to identify those companies  RP> which
meet your industry choices. Visit the main library and  RP> look for industry
reference books. These will have most 
RP> companies in Canada categorized BY industry. Who they are, where  RP> they
are, what they do, etc. They will also have some 
RP> information on corporate officers: names, titles and so on. 
RP> Financial information may also be present. If not, you can look  RP> for
that in Standard and Poore's, Dun and Bradstreet, etc., all  RP> useful
sources of information. If you have trouble in locating  RP> what you are
after, you will find that the librarian will be  RP> only too happy to point
you in the right direction. Try to get  RP> the most up to date information.
The best source is the main  RP> reference library on College Street in
Toronto, but try your  RP> local main library first. Also ask if they maintain
a newspaper  RP> cutting service. This will provide additional information
about  RP> the companies you finally select to approach. Are they still in 
RP> business? What changes have occurred over the past six months or  RP> so?
There will be many questions you may wish to have answered.

RP> This research will help you to pinpoint those companies to whom  RP> you
can send what we call BLIND LETTERS. These letters are 
RP> basically unsolicited job applications. With the information you  RP> have
gathered you will be in a much better position to present  RP> yourself in
your resume and covering letter. If you get as far  RP> as an interview, all
the better. Gives you a chance to really  RP> shine with your knowledge of the
company. This research is very  RP> important, so take your time and don't be
discouraged.

RP> Covering letters and resumes should be customized to reflect not  RP> only
your past experience, but also your knowledge of the 
RP> company you are writing to, their products and anything else  RP> which
you can think of. Don't go overboard at this point, just a  RP> brief sentence
or two will suffice. Remember, there are a lot of  RP> people out there
looking for a job. You have to gain the 
RP> advantage.

RP> Blind letters should NEVER be written to human resource or 
RP> employment offices, they only get trashed, and are a waste of  RP> your
time and the cost of the postage stamp. Always write to the  RP> head of the
department where you would like to work - one of the  RP> results of your
research. In our experience, most of the time  RP> you will get a reply to
your letters, even though some of them  RP> may be a "Dear John" type. If this
is the case, call up the 
RP> person to whom you wrote and just ask him/her if they could give  RP> you
a critique of your resume. Did they think it was well put  RP> together? How
could it be improved upon? Now you are asking for  RP> their advice, not a
job, and most people will be glad to give it  RP> to you. It doesn't cost them
anything and most likely boosts  RP> their ego a little.

RP> Keep your resume down to three pages at the most. Make sure that  RP> the
information you are presenting is brief, to the point and  RP> truthful.

RP> By all means use the "body shops" and "head hunters", but 
RP> remember that they rarely interview. The majority simply send  RP> your
resume in response to a clients request as a "fit". In 
RP> other words they are paper shufflers. However, you might get  RP> lucky,
particularly if you have a well written and 
RP> professionally presented resume.

RP> Looking for and finding a job can be a frustrating and 
RP> protracted experience. Look upon it as a learning experience. Go  RP> back
to school, night classes if necessary. It looks good on a  RP> resume and adds
to your marketable skill sets. It also tells a  RP> prospective employer that
you are serious about continuing your  RP> education. A very important
consideration. Get into a routine.  RP> Get up each morning at the same time,
have a work plan for each  RP> day. Read those books you always meant to. Keep
your mind 
RP> active. Take regular exercise - walking, it doesn't have to be  RP>
strenuous.

RP> These caveats apply to those who are unemployed:

RP> If you are contemplating going into business for yourself, BE  RP> VERY
CAREFUL. If you need financing, don't let anyone fool you  RP> into giving up
equity in your home, you may very well loose it  RP> if your business is not
successful! As many have learned to 
RP> their dismay. Do not be taken in by promises of "unlimited 
RP> income" in franchise deals. The only person making money is the  RP>
person who sells you the franchise. Approach every scheme with  RP> your eyes
open. Don't be taken in by vague and unsubstantiated  RP> claims for financial
success. Unless you are absolutely sure of  RP> what you are getting into,
keep your money in your pocket. 
RP> Charity begins at home <G> Don't forget, there's no such thing  RP> as a
free lunch!

RP> But most importantly, DO NOT DESPAIR. You are in good company.

RP> And remember:

RP> a smile costs nothing, there's nothing to pay and it might just  RP> make
somebody's day.

RP> Good luck in your endeavours. Hope that the above has been of  RP> some
assistance. Talk to me any time.. Always glad to help.

RP> ... CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL - Your window on opportunity _ Blue  RP>
Wave/QWK v2.12 --- T.A.G. 2.6f2a Beta  * Origin: The Gatehouse  RP> BBS *
(905)528-0635/0636 * WHQ BBCNet (1:244/119)  


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From: ERNIE ROBINSON                         Number: 9476
  To: ROY POXON                                Date: 12/28/93  4:50p
Subj: Re: Employment Advice                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RP>  I would like to offer these suggestions to all of you out there  RP> who
are unemployed, seeking a career change or looking for that  RP> first job.

RP> First the bad news! Don't look for the good times of the '80's  RP> to
return. Many of the jobs which have recently been removed  RP> from industry
have gone for good. Companies are getting leaner  RP> and meaner. In this
global economy they have no choice. All the  RP> developed countries are in
the same boat. Fifteen million 
RP> unemployed in the EEC alone. However, there IS light at the end  RP> of
the tunnel.

RP> If you have the necessary skills, there ARE jobs out there.

RP> Companies are very particular about who they hire these days.  RP> They
are looking for very specific skill sets and if your resume  RP> does not
address the company's requirements, your resume gets  RP> dumped in file 13.

RP> I would like to suggest that, as well as replying to 
RP> advertisements, you also list your skill sets and make a 
RP> judgement as to what kinds of jobs you would be comfortable in  RP> and
qualified to perform. You might be surprised at the results.  RP> It gets you
away from thinking about one job title.

RP> Next, try to decide what industries you would be comfortable  RP> working
in. That is, in which do you have experience or could  RP> easily fit into. To
very much simplify an example, mining is  RP> much like oil and gas. They are
both natural resource 
RP> industries. Extraction methodologies are very similar. Only the  RP> end
product is different. Again, you will surprise yourself with  RP> the outcome
of this exercise.

RP> You now have two criteria: what you can do and where you can do  RP> it.

RP> Now comes the hard part. You have to identify those companies  RP> which
meet your industry choices. Visit the main library and  RP> look for industry
reference books. These will have most 
RP> companies in Canada categorized BY industry. Who they are, where  RP> they
are, what they do, etc. They will also have some 
RP> information on corporate officers: names, titles and so on. 
RP> Financial information may also be present. If not, you can look  RP> for
that in Standard and Poore's, Dun and Bradstreet, etc., all  RP> useful
sources of information. If you have trouble in locating  RP> what you are
after, you will find that the librarian will be  RP> only too happy to point
you in the right direction. Try to get  RP> the most up to date information.
The best source is the main  RP> reference library on College Street in
Toronto, but try your  RP> local main library first. Also ask if they maintain
a newspaper  RP> cutting service. This will provide additional information
about  RP> the companies you finally select to approach. Are they still in 
RP> business? What changes have occurred over the past six months or  RP> so?
There will be many questions you may wish to have answered.

RP> This research will help you to pinpoint those companies to whom  RP> you
can send what we call BLIND LETTERS. These letters are 
RP> basically unsolicited job applications. With the information you  RP> have
gathered you will be in a much better position to present  RP> yourself in
your resume and covering letter. If you get as far  RP> as an interview, all
the better. Gives you a chance to really  RP> shine with your knowledge of the
company. This research is very  RP> important, so take your time and don't be
discouraged.

RP> Covering letters and resumes should be customized to reflect not  RP> only
your past experience, but also your knowledge of the 
RP> company you are writing to, their products and anything else  RP> which
you can think of. Don't go overboard at this point, just a  RP> brief sentence
or two will suffice. Remember, there are a lot of  RP> people out there
looking for a job. You have to gain the 
RP> advantage.

RP> Blind letters should NEVER be written to human resource or 
RP> employment offices, they only get trashed, and are a waste of  RP> your
time and the cost of the postage stamp. Always write to the  RP> head of the
department where you would like to work - one of the  RP> results of your
research. In our experience, most of the time  RP> you will get a reply to
your letters, even though some of them  RP> may be a "Dear John" type. If this
is the case, call up the 
RP> person to whom you wrote and just ask him/her if they could give  RP> you
a critique of your resume. Did they think it was well put  RP> together? How
could it be improved upon? Now you are asking for  RP> their advice, not a
job, and most people will be glad to give it  RP> to you. It doesn't cost them
anything and most likely boosts  RP> their ego a little.

RP> Keep your resume down to three pages at the most. Make sure that  RP> the
information you are presenting is brief, to the point and  RP> truthful.

RP> By all means use the "body shops" and "head hunters", but 
RP> remember that they rarely interview. The majority simply send  RP> your
resume in response to a clients request as a "fit". In 
RP> other words they are paper shufflers. However, you might get  RP> lucky,
particularly if you have a well written and 
RP> professionally presented resume.

RP> Looking for and finding a job can be a frustrating and 
RP> protracted experience. Look upon it as a learning experience. Go  RP> back
to school, night classes if necessary. It looks good on a  RP> resume and adds
to your marketable skill sets. It also tells a  RP> prospective employer that
you are serious about continuing your  RP> education. A very important
consideration. Get into a routine.  RP> Get up each morning at the same time,
have a work plan for each  RP> day. Read those books you always meant to. Keep
your mind 
RP> active. Take regular exercise - walking, it doesn't have to be  RP>
strenuous.

RP> These caveats apply to those who are unemployed:

RP> If you are contemplating going into business for yourself, BE  RP> VERY
CAREFUL. If you need financing, don't let anyone fool you  RP> into giving up
equity in your home, you may very well loose it  RP> if your business is not
successful! As many have learned to 
RP> their dismay. Do not be taken in by promises of "unlimited 
RP> income" in franchise deals. The only person making money is the  RP>
person who sells you the franchise. Approach every scheme with  RP> your eyes
open. Don't be taken in by vague and unsubstantiated  RP> claims for financial
success. Unless you are absolutely sure of  RP> what you are getting into,
keep your money in your pocket. 
RP> Charity begins at home <G> Don't forget, there's no such thing  RP> as a
free lunch!

RP> But most importantly, DO NOT DESPAIR. You are in good company.

RP> And remember:

RP> a smile costs nothing, there's nothing to pay and it might just  RP> make
somebody's day.

RP> Good luck in your endeavours. Hope that the above has been of  RP> some
assistance. Talk to me any time.. Always glad to help.

RP> ... CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL - Your window on opportunity _ Blue  RP>
Wave/QWK v2.12 --- T.A.G. 2.6f2a Beta  * Origin: The Gatehouse  RP> BBS *
(905)528-0635/0636 * WHQ BBCNet (1:244/119)  


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From: ERNIE ROBINSON                         Number: 9477
  To: ROY POXON                                Date: 12/28/93  4:52p
Subj: Re: Employment Advice                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RP>  I would like to offer these suggestions to all of you out there  RP> who
are unemployed, seeking a career change or looking for that  RP> first job.

RP> First the bad news! Don't look for the good times of the '80's  RP> to
return. Many of the jobs which have recently been removed  RP> from industry
have gone for good. Companies are getting leaner  RP> and meaner. In this
global economy they have no choice. All the  RP> developed countries are in
the same boat. Fifteen million 
RP> unemployed in the EEC alone. However, there IS light at the end  RP> of
the tunnel.

RP> If you have the necessary skills, there ARE jobs out there.

RP> Companies are very particular about who they hire these days.  RP> They
are looking for very specific skill sets and if your resume  RP> does not
address the company's requirements, your resume gets  RP> dumped in file 13.

RP> I would like to suggest that, as well as replying to 
RP> advertisements, you also list your skill sets and make a 
RP> judgement as to what kinds of jobs you would be comfortable in  RP> and
qualified to perform. You might be surprised at the results.  RP> It gets you
away from thinking about one job title.

RP> Next, try to decide what industries you would be comfortable  RP> working
in. That is, in which do you have experience or could  RP> easily fit into. To
very much simplify an example, mining is  RP> much like oil and gas. They are
both natural resource 
RP> industries. Extraction methodologies are very similar. Only the  RP> end
product is different. Again, you will surprise yourself with  RP> the outcome
of this exercise.

RP> You now have two criteria: what you can do and where you can do  RP> it.

RP> Now comes the hard part. You have to identify those companies  RP> which
meet your industry choices. Visit the main library and  RP> look for industry
reference books. These will have most 
RP> companies in Canada categorized BY industry. Who they are, where  RP> they
are, what they do, etc. They will also have some 
RP> information on corporate officers: names, titles and so on. 
RP> Financial information may also be present. If not, you can look  RP> for
that in Standard and Poore's, Dun and Bradstreet, etc., all  RP> useful
sources of information. If you have trouble in locating  RP> what you are
after, you will find that the librarian will be  RP> only too happy to point
you in the right direction. Try to get  RP> the most up to date information.
The best source is the main  RP> reference library on College Street in
Toronto, but try your  RP> local main library first. Also ask if they maintain
a newspaper  RP> cutting service. This will provide additional information
about  RP> the companies you finally select to approach. Are they still in 
RP> business? What changes have occurred over the past six months or  RP> so?
There will be many questions you may wish to have answered.

RP> This research will help you to pinpoint those companies to whom  RP> you
can send what we call BLIND LETTERS. These letters are 
RP> basically unsolicited job applications. With the information you  RP> have
gathered you will be in a much better position to present  RP> yourself in
your resume and covering letter. If you get as far  RP> as an interview, all
the better. Gives you a chance to really  RP> shine with your knowledge of the
company. This research is very  RP> important, so take your time and don't be
discouraged.

RP> Covering letters and resumes should be customized to reflect not  RP> only
your past experience, but also your knowledge of the 
RP> company you are writing to, their products and anything else  RP> which
you can think of. Don't go overboard at this point, just a  RP> brief sentence
or two will suffice. Remember, there are a lot of  RP> people out there
looking for a job. You have to gain the 
RP> advantage.

RP> Blind letters should NEVER be written to human resource or 
RP> employment offices, they only get trashed, and are a waste of  RP> your
time and the cost of the postage stamp. Always write to the  RP> head of the
department where you would like to work - one of the  RP> results of your
research. In our experience, most of the time  RP> you will get a reply to
your letters, even though some of them  RP> may be a "Dear John" type. If this
is the case, call up the 
RP> person to whom you wrote and just ask him/her if they could give  RP> you
a critique of your resume. Did they think it was well put  RP> together? How
could it be improved upon? Now you are asking for  RP> their advice, not a
job, and most people will be glad to give it  RP> to you. It doesn't cost them
anything and most likely boosts  RP> their ego a little.

RP> Keep your resume down to three pages at the most. Make sure that  RP> the
information you are presenting is brief, to the point and  RP> truthful.

RP> By all means use the "body shops" and "head hunters", but 
RP> remember that they rarely interview. The majority simply send  RP> your
resume in response to a clients request as a "fit". In 
RP> other words they are paper shufflers. However, you might get  RP> lucky,
particularly if you have a well written and 
RP> professionally presented resume.

RP> Looking for and finding a job can be a frustrating and 
RP> protracted experience. Look upon it as a learning experience. Go  RP> back
to school, night classes if necessary. It looks good on a  RP> resume and adds
to your marketable skill sets. It also tells a  RP> prospective employer that
you are serious about continuing your  RP> education. A very important
consideration. Get into a routine.  RP> Get up each morning at the same time,
have a work plan for each  RP> day. Read those books you always meant to. Keep
your mind 
RP> active. Take regular exercise - walking, it doesn't have to be  RP>
strenuous.

RP> These caveats apply to those who are unemployed:

RP> If you are contemplating going into business for yourself, BE  RP> VERY
CAREFUL. If you need financing, don't let anyone fool you  RP> into giving up
equity in your home, you may very well loose it  RP> if your business is not
successful! As many have learned to 
RP> their dismay. Do not be taken in by promises of "unlimited 
RP> income" in franchise deals. The only person making money is the  RP>
person who sells you the franchise. Approach every scheme with  RP> your eyes
open. Don't be taken in by vague and unsubstantiated  RP> claims for financial
success. Unless you are absolutely sure of  RP> what you are getting into,
keep your money in your pocket. 
RP> Charity begins at home <G> Don't forget, there's no such thing  RP> as a
free lunch!

RP> But most importantly, DO NOT DESPAIR. You are in good company.

RP> And remember:

RP> a smile costs nothing, there's nothing to pay and it might just  RP> make
somebody's day.

RP> Good luck in your endeavours. Hope that the above has been of  RP> some
assistance. Talk to me any time.. Always glad to help.

RP> ... CONTACTS INTERNATIONAL - Your window on opportunity _ Blue  RP>
Wave/QWK v2.12 --- T.A.G. 2.6f2a Beta  * Origin: The Gatehouse  RP> BBS *
(905)528-0635/0636 * WHQ BBCNet (1:244/119)  


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From: CHUCK WARREN                           Number: 9478
  To: JESSE GODSEY                             Date: 01/01/94  4:43p
Subj: Pioneer 6 Cd-Changer Want               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Looking for a good price on a new or really good used Pioneer 6
-> CD-Changer, anyone have any idea where I could pick one up for a
-> decent price???

   I have one I might be interested in letting go!  Make me an offer!

   Chuck


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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 9479
  To: TAB TRESS                                Date: 12/31/93  2:48a
Subj: Busty Babes Volume I  Version I         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Tab,
How about trading ANIMATED FANTASIES for your BB 1 ?  Let me know.
Greg

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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 9480
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/31/93  2:53a
Subj: trade cd                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like to trade ANIMATED FANTASIES for another adult cd.  Let me know
what you have.
Greg

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From: JAYSON NOTARO                          Number: 9481
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/31/93  2:06a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Geez at those prices no wonder you're selling porno CD's! I can get a TEXEL   
for only $299 at egghead software. The specs are:

                                240ms access time
                                335kb transfer rate
                                all drive cables and driver software
                                SCSI controller!

                ALL FOR $299! That's what I have now.
                and if you expect to sell any CD-ROMz 
                you should maybe check the competion
                                first.


                                        Jayson


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From: JAYSON NOTARO                          Number: 9482
  To: BORIS                                    Date: 12/31/93  2:11a
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

That's EGGHEAD SOFTWARE  in Bethel Park right across the street from south
hills village mall. That's where I can get the drive for about $100 LESS!


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From: L RICHARD JOHNSON                      Number: 9483
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/31/93  4:45p
Subj: Refund                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Pat,
   I would like a refund of my $200 for the drives you sent me. I will not send
the drives back to you to look at as I feel it is a further waste of my time.
Upon receipt of my refund, I will then mail back the drives. Basically you will
be buying the drives back. I will not send them before I have money fron you as
they will be evidence for any charges that may result if you fail to refund my
money. Please call me voice when you receive this message. 

Richard Johnson
Powell, Ohio

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From: SCOTT CATO                             Number: 9484
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 12/31/93 10:50p
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'' take a catalog.
Send it to:
Scott Cato
13110 Huntersville - Concord Rd.
Huntersville, NC 28078

Thanks.

... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
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From: IAN SINGER                             Number: 9485
  To: DARREL FARRIS                            Date: 01/01/94  2:40a
Subj: CD-ROM Wanted                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Night Owls 5 has 500 meg of Midi, soundblaster and cmf files on it. If
you want my price is $US25 delivered to North America with no surcharge
for Visa. Leave message at 416-252-1133 data.
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From: DAVID RYDER                            Number: 9486
  To: JASON KOLLER                             Date: 01/01/94  5:50p
Subj: *! Mitsumi 2X CD $219                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Message entered on Dec 29,93 by JASON KOLLER to JEFF WEISS
***********************************************************************
-> Mitsumi FX001D double-speed internal CD-ROM  ---  $219

JK> Hi Jeff..I am very interested in that drive.  Does it have OS/2
JK> compatibility?  I know the older ones do, but does this one?  Are you
JK> SURE?  :)  Thanks!

    Jason, with the IBM drivers, it does have OS/2 compatability.  I
    use one with OS/2.


***David.
 Entered Jan 1,94 from Mississauga, Ontario.    rn.1063@rose.com
   
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From: MARK CRANWELL                          Number: 9487
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 12/31/93 12:41p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TB>                    Here they are...   $99  each !

TB> Hitachi cd rom drives model 3600 (that's right model 3600) $99 each.
TB> Access time 350 ms.  Transfer rate 150 kb/s.  These EXCELLENT drives
TB> can be daisy-chained up to 8 on each propitiatory controller card.

TB> They can use the same controller cards that  are  used  with  the
TB> model 3500's.  If you don't  already  have  an  interface  card I
TB> have them NEW for $60. I also can provide caddies, external cases
TB> for 4 or 8 of these drives and external cables caddies and  power
TB> supplies.

TB> 30   day   warranty.      All domestic orders are shipped  c.o.d.

TB> Call voice 205-824-2552  or "crash" netmail your order to 3625/441.
TB> Sorry...  routed  netmail  won't reach me since I get my  feed  via
TB> satellite.

TB>--- timEd-A10c
TB> * Origin: Center  of  the  Cosmos   205-824-2611 (1:3625/441)

HI TERRY: I am from BRANDON, MANITOBA, CANADA and noticed your add for
$99 CD-ROM drives. I was was wondering if all I have to do is plug it in
and it works. I also will need a card to hook it up as I have 2 hard
drives now. What would be the total cost for the drive and card. Let me
know and maybe you will sell me one. I also would like a list all the
discs you have for them. Bye from the frozen north.
___
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From: MARK CRANWELL                          Number: 9488
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 12/31/93 12:47p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
JR>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
JR>If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
JR>We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
JR>CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
JR>        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
JR>    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
JR>Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
JR>P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
JR>Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

JR>--- MsgToss 2.0c
JR> * Origin: "If you can't find it, call config.sys!" 216-296-4446 (1:157/479)

Hi JOE: I noticed your add for a free catalog and would like one. I am
in Canada and have trouble finding discs. I would like to order some so
send me the catalog and prices. Larry williams
                                642-14 th st.
                                Brandon.Manitoba
                                Canada R7A4T9
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 9489
  To: CARL REHAGEN                             Date: 01/01/94 11:35a
Subj: CDROM Systems                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CR>  Boris, is this a SCSI drive or does it require it's own card.
 
The Texels are SCSI drives....

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 9490
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/01/94 11:49a
Subj: cdrom discs for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Aminet Amiga...Near 600 meg from Aminet Interet Archives.....**..14.50
AMSoft (Ham)...Thousands of ham shareware/ham related programs...26.95
A.S.P...Best of ASP Association Authors Shareware................21.95
Big Sky 1-for SYSOPS,7M+files,660+mb,easiest/fast to install.**..26.00
Big Sky 2-Top Drawer - coming early '94 - (Pre-Orders).......**..19.00
C Users Group Library...User supported source code-dos,unix,cpm..27.95
CD Powerbox #1..6,858 files-50 categories-all '91-'92 files..**..18.95
CD Powerbox #2...............................................**..19.95
EMS Professional Sharew Libraries..specialized sharew collection.23.95
Garbo MSDOS/MAC Shareware...About 250mb DOS/125mb MAC-made 5/92..14.50
Giga Games...3000+ MSDOS/Windows games/educational programs..**..18.95
Gigabyte Gold...13,111 files-99 categories-all '89-'91 files.**..14.95
Ham Radio...Enormous collection of Ham & SWL programs & data.....12.95
Libris Britannica...600+mb British shareware-tech/scientific.**..29.95
Lion Share...4208 files-400+ meg-50% '91/50% '92 shareware...**..21.95
Monster Disc...2 CDS-all 1992 shareware with book............**..37.95
Monster Media '93 #2..Sequel to Monster-400+mb-all '93-book..**..25.95
Nightowl 6.0 or 7.0...600+mb-'91/92-6M+ files-50+ categories.**..14.95
Nightowl 8.0..........600+mb-'92/93-5M+ files-50+ categories.**..19.95
Nightowl 10.0.........600+mb-all '93-5M+files-70% after 6/93.**..28.95
Nightowl Bus. Applications...Best of Nightowl business shareware.18.95
Nightowl Games...............................................**..18.95
Nightowl Graphics...All gifs.................................**..24.95
Nightowl Windows.............................................**..28.95
OS/2 Archives-Hobbes..3000 files-600+mb-shareware/freeware-10/93.14.50
OS2/Box...From the makers of CD Power/Winbox-3)0+ mb.........**..23.95
PC Sig H & B Collection...Best of PC Sig for home & business.....16.95
PC Sig World of Games............................................18.95
PC Sig World of Windows..........................................18.95
PC Sig #13.......................................................24.50
PC Sig #10...Great collection of shareware-'92...............**..16.95
PC Sig #11...Professional collection-3700+-'92-'93...........**..17.95
Phoenix #3...600+ mb shareware from 1992.....................**..11.95
Phoenix #4 (New)...Sequel to Phoenix 3-shareware.............**..16.95
Pier 3...660 meg-all 1993-3rd quarter '93 shareware..........**..26.95
Powerpak Gold...Released in 1992-Best of best-7354 files.....**..10.95
Shareware Extravaganza..(4 cds)-BBS collection-25M+ files....**..36.95
Shareware 1993 v1...5,000+ files-early '93-620mb.............**..19.95
Shareware 1993 v2...6,000 files-all '93, no dupes with v1....**..23.95
Shareware Explorer..(4 cds)-5 star series-26,000 files.......**..39.95
Shareware Games..6M+ files-4/93-sports,arcade,casino,solutions...21.95
Shareware Heaven.................................................14.95
Shareware On-Line #2...'93 release...........................**..27.95
ShareWare Overload...550mb-6100 files-wide variety of programs...11.95
Shareware Studio #1..........................................**..19.95
Shareware Studio #2...637mb,6,659 files,all '92-'93 files....**..19.95
Shareware Studio #3..........................................**..19.95
Shareware Tiger...600+mb of shareware-1991...................**..19.95
Simtel 2...from internet site-9,000+ files,viewer,...........**..13.95
So Much Shareware..............#1 - 15.95...#2 - 19.95...#3..**..21.95
Software Jukebox...all new 1993 shareware programs...........**..23.95
Software Vault #2...8000 programs,most '93,released 5/93.....**..15.95
Software Vault #3-Gold...590+mb,all '93,no dupes with 1 or 2.**..19.95
Software Vault Games.............................................19.95
Software Vault Windows...........................................19.95
Sound Sensations..Sound effects,clips,music,convertors,voices....12.95
Source Code..600+mb,15M+ files,usenet/simtel/msdos,unix/dos-3/92.19.95
Tech Arsenal..C,ASM,Pascal,VBasic,LAN,dBase,Clipper,drivers,OS/2.21.95
Technotools...Programmer shareware tools,many languages..........12.95
Top 2000 Shareware..Family/kids oriented,menu-driven.............19.95
Win Platinum...Great collection of Windows programs..............23.95
Winbox (CD)...nice collection of windows shareware...........**..24.95
Window Master....................................................19.45
Windoware..Shareware for Win 3.1+,large variety of applications..11.95
Windows 1993...7,347 files,600+mb,'90-'92 files,many areas...**..23.95
Windows - CICA...from internet ftp site-hundreds of meg-4/93.**..14.50
X11R5/GNU Cdrom..X11R5 window system source,GNU source,Sparc.....24.95
20th Century Video Almanac.......................................28.95
7th Guest...Interactive drama in a real virtual environment......48.95
999+ WAV Files..Over 1,500 Wav files with TidalWav Sound Player..19.95
1001 Utilities...................................................12.95
9000 Sounds..Sblaster,midi,wav,adlib,pc speaker,cakewalk,mod.**..22.95
Adventures in Heaven...Games-challenge,explore,capture,monsters..14.95
Adventures of Willy Beamish...Comedy/adventure game w/Wild Willy.19.95
Aesops Fables...54 fables-music/narration/illustrations..........26.95
Aircraft Encyclopedia...MPC database of world military aircraft..35.95
Amanda Stories...Adventures of Indigo the cat & faithful camel...44.95
American Bus. Fone Book '92.......................................9.95
American Bus. Fone Book '93-4....................................18.95
American Heritage Illustrated Encycl. Dictionary..80M words/pics.36.95
American Vista Atlas..Pics/maps/music/audio/history/wildlife/MPC.29.95
Anecdotes........................................................26.95
Animals SD Zoo DOS-18.95...Tour 200+ animals-300+ exhibits...MPC-20.50
Arthur's Teacher Trouble..Multimedia,surprises on every page.....26.95
Audio collection,MM..effects,note play,music mentor,band in box..26.95
Audobon Birds...1840 edition-500+ images-full text-bird calls....19.95
Audobon Mammals...Full color pallette-full text-CD quality sound.19.95
B-17 Silent Service...Select your crew and fly WWII sorties......39.95
Barney Bear Goes to School...Interactive-teaches math/reading....21.95
Barney Bear Goes to Space...Barney tours space in the shuttle....21.95
Barron's Book Notes...101 complete unabridged book notes-more....36.95
BattleChess MPC...Multimedia animated chess game-audio/music.....21.95
Beauty & the Beast...WIN 3,multimedia storybook,interactive......24.95
Best of Micropose..Pirates,RR Tycoon,Rex Nebular,Command HQ......24.95
Best Businesses..5800 best,tel,fax,address,zip,# emp,CEO-search..28.95
Better Homes & Garden Cookbook...................................52.95
Beyond the Wall of Stars..Futuristic adventure game beyond.......19.95
Bible Lands, Bible Stories..passport to exploring Holy Land......43.95
Bible Library...9 Bibles, 20 references, 27 concordances.........24.95

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Bibles & Religion...Many different bibles and related shareware..12.95
Birds, New Zealand..birds-how to photo,WIN,300 species,500 pics..29.95
Blue Force...Cop seeks killer of parents,great graphics..........43.95
Business Assistant..Shareware oriented for the business user.....12.95
Business Master...1100+ business related shareware-600+ meg......19.95
Business Phone Dir w/Zip+........................................34.95
Cameron's Fine Art Poster Catalog..Reproductions,sculpture,info..31.95
Carmen San Diego World Deluxe...3000 clues,music,anim,graphics...24.95
Carmen San Diego - Where in USA..crime stopping chase,pics,music.58.95
Capitol Hill - DOS or MPC........................................28.95
CD Cad v3.7 with manual...Full featured CAD w/templates..........31.95
CD Game Pack 1...6 great games...................................14.95
Cd Game Pack 2..12 games,Chessmaster 2000,Bruce Lee,Black Hole...17.95
Chess Maniac-National Lampoon...Fun way to play chess............38.95
ChessMaster 3000 MPC..from a master,learn basic to advanced.skil.17.95
Christmas Carol...The classic Charles Dickens tale...............19.95
C.I.T.Y. 2000 London...Full motion video interactive mystery.....52.95
Classic Collection (4 Pak) Sherlock,Shakespeare,Birds,Mammals....41.95
Clinton-Portrait of Victory......................................24.95
Clip Art Galore...1950 hard to find images for DTP..........**...22.95
Clip Art Goliath...11,000 images in pcx/tiff format..............12.95
Clip Art Heaven...300+ dpi images-pcx/tiff/cdr/bmp,convert/view..14.95
Clip Art Warehouse..11,000+ images in PCX/Tiff format & others...16.95
Coates Art Review...600+ images of impressionist works, info.....28.95
College Handbook 1993............................................37.95
Color Magic Clip Art..300 dpi,256 colors,royalty free............19.95
Colossal Cookbook..4M+ recipes,cross ref,health/nutrition guide..12.95
Complete Bookshop..classic,poetry,humor,cookbook,history,novels..12.95
Composer Quest...game journey to learn more about the composers..33.95
Compton's Family Choice..15 works-Body,Fiction,Math,States,Spell.43.95
Compton's Interactive Encylopedia..'93 upgrade-complete edition..79.95
Compton's MM Encyclopedia........................................42.95
Computer Reference Library...Tutorials for Lotus, Word Perf,more.12.95
Conan the Cimmerian...Explore taverns,crypts,temples-soundtrack..28.95
Consumer Information Disc..answers to questions on many subjects.34.50
Cookbook Heaven..20M recipes,cookbooks,diet/health applics,more..15.95
Corel Christmas Photos..100 royalty free images in Kodak format..19.95
Corel 4.0 CD Upgrade...animation,desktop publ,fonts,clipart.....213.95
Corel 4.0 Floppy + CD Upgrade...2 CDs and 3-1/2" floppies.......219.95
Countries of the World..........................................299.95
Creation Stories.................................................36.95
Crossword Cracker................................................23.95
Daggar of Amon...role playing game by Sierra.....................25.95
Dare, Bluff, or Die..Role play history of Wild West,educational..28.95
Database...Programs for Clipper,Foxpro,Paradox,dBase,Rbase.......18.95
DeathStar Arcade Battles.........................................12.95
Deep Voyage...100 underwater images,100 audio clips,25 videos....34.95
Desert Storm..100's of reports,photos,recorded interviews........22.95
Desktop Bookshop.................................................18.95
Dickens Complete.................................................44.95
Dictionaries & Languages..Lessons in French,German,Russain,more..12.95
Dictionary of the Living World..Facts/photos-5M+ animal species..28.95
Dinosaur Adventure..Pics,animation,narration,sounds,educational..24.95
Dinosaur Encyclopedia..MPC,video/narration on evolution/fossils..23.95
Dinosaur Safari..................................................44.95
Dr. Games..adventure,arcade,card,sports,strategy,puzzles....**...19.95
Dr. Music..music editors,MOD,MIDI,sound cards,ROL,VOC,WAV...**...19.95
Dr. Windows..3440 files-applics,ATM,DTP,fonts,games,more....**...19.95
Doctors Book of Home Remedies....................................33.95
Dracula Unleashed...Discover Dracula,clues,90 minutes of video...48.95
Dune..Enhanced,original music score,best fantasy adventure game..38.95
Eco Quest,Search for Cetus-Whale King-improve undersea knowledge.25.95
Education Master...Educational oriented shareware collection.....19.95
Electronic Cookbook...Complete library-1800+ recipes,pics,hints..23.95
Electronic Home Library..250 books,Plato,Poe,Shakespeare,more....21.95
Electronic Library of Art..slide library of 1M+ westrn art pics..43.95
Encyclopedia of Clip Art...PCX potpourri of great clipart........23.95
Encyclopedia of Sound..250+ sound files,WAV format,royalty free..12.95
Eric the Unready...Adventure/fantasy-challenging story paths.....38.95
European Monarchs..History with bizarre details of kings/queens..33.95
Executive Factomatic..1000+ solutions to people problems.........36.95
Eye of the Beholder III...Dungeons and dragons game..............52.95
F117A/F1511 W/Scenario...........................................44.95
F15 III Strike Eagle...new instrument and weapons tutorial.......46.95
Family Doctor...2000 common questions,data on 1600 drugs,pics....19.95
Fantazia Fonts & Sounds..........................................25.95
Firearms Reference..600 products in WIN/DOS BMP format.....**....21.95
Food Analyst.....................................................32.95
Fonts #1.........................................................27.95
Fresh Arte...1,500 copyright-free drawings/graphics,400 dpi......31.95
Full Bloom..100+ pics,25 movies,100 piano clips-exotic flowers...36.95
Funny............................................................28.95
Future Wars......................................................48.95
Game Arena.......................................................13.00
GameMaster (Over 500 Games)......................................19.45
Gameware Collection..............................................23.95
Games 1993...6M+ files,Apogee,unprotects,tips,arcade,flight..**..23.95
Games Platinum...................................................19.95
Gardening...Photos, planning, clipart, landscaping, home garden..12.95
Gifs Galore...rated G-6,000+ GIF images-wide variety.............14.50
Global Explorer (Delorme)...Streets of major world cities........84.95
Gofer Winkles Adventure...Multimedia comic book w/story & speech.34.95
Golden Immortal..................................................24.95
Goldilocks 3 Bears-English or French or Spanish..................38.95
Gov't Giveaways-Entreprenuers....................................47.95
Great Cities of World 1...MPC-10 cities-Moscow,Paris,NY,LA,Rio...23.95
Great Cities of World 2...Berlin,Buenos Aires,Chicago,Rome,more..23.95
Great Mystery Classics..171+ stories of mayhem and intrigue......43.95
Great Wonders of the World 1...12+ sights-Great Wall,Taj Mahal...42.95

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Great Wonders of the World 2.....................................49.95
Greatest Books Collection..600 separate pieces from 150+ books...32.95
Grolier Ill. Encyl. (STW) v2.....................................21.95
Grolier Ill. Encyl. (STW) MM.....................................35.95
Grolier Ill. Encyl. (STW) MPC....................................35.95
Grolier Ill. Encyl. (STW) MPC v6-3M pics,7M new articles,250maps.37.95
Guide to Business Travel Europe..complete reference guide........24.95
Guiness Disc of Records - 1993...................................27.95
Gunship 2000 w/Scenario...original game with extra scenarios.....39.95
Guy Spy & the Crystals of Armageddon...breathru adventure game...27.95
Hacker Chronicles..articles on hackers,underground,more..........28.95
Ham Radio,scanner companion..FCC regs,freq lists,SSTV,satellite..19.95
HamWare 1993..shareware-mod's,design,testing,analysis,packets....19.95
Hard Days Night...the famous one from the Beatles................31.95
Hell Cab MPC..bizarre people,3D graphics,1st person interactive..64.95
History of the World..prehistoric to present,major events........53.95
Holy Bible & Other Christian Software...shareware bibles,more....18.95
Home & Office Legal Guide...500 forms,contract,letter,wills......12.95
Horror & Sci-fi Films..cast/credit synapse-2300+films-photos.....37.95
Hospitality Index................................................39.95
House of Games #1.100s-action,adv,suspense games-90% play off CD.18.95
House of Games #2................................................19.95
Human Calculator..new/faster/better way of teaching math,drills..38.95
Icons/Wallpaper & More...variety of icons,wallpaper,win utils....28.95
Images of NASA...................................................31.95
In the Company of Whales...45 min. video,200+ pics,mm journey....48.95
Inca..restore inca,full motion video,sound,digitized speech......42.95
Indiana Jones-Fate of Atlantis..Over 200 locations to Atlantis...44.95
Inspector Gadget.................................................46.95
Inter. Business/Economc Atlas....................................20.95
Iron Helix..sci-fi adventure,3D cinematic graphics,interactive...58.95
Island Designs...................................................36.95
J.F.K. the Assassination-A Visual Investigation..................38.95
Jack and the Beanstalk...........................................38.95
Jazz, Multimedia History...Biographies w/CD quality audio........26.95
Jets & Props..2 discs,200+ pics,200 audio clips,civil/military...29.95
Jokes & Pranks...................................................13.00
Jones in the Fast Lane.Up to 4-board game-money/career/education.19.00
Journeyman Project , The..Photorealistic 3D adventure game.......48.95
Jungle Book-KAA Hunt.............................................24.95
Jungle Book-Mowgli...............................................34.95
Jungle Book-Tiger................................................34.95
Just Fonts v1....................................................19.95
Just Grandma & Me...Ultimate adventure to explore the beach......38.95
Kathy Smith-Fat Burning Systm..create tailored workout/diet plan.54.95
Key Clipmaster Pro...............................................32.95
Key Fonts Pro....................................................32.95
Key Home Designer................................................32.95
Kids Zoo-Baby Animal Adv.........................................36.95
Kodak Photo CD Access CD..Software-24 dazzling pics in 6 formats.16.95
King James Bible...search chapter and verse at touch of button...24.95
Kings Quest V...King Graham embarks to rescue his family.........19.95
Kings Quest VI Upgrade...........................................28.95
Kings Quest VI..Best games ever,help shipwrecked prince alex.....43.95
Lan Master.......................................................24.95
Languages of the World MPC-12 languages-cross ref,dict,translate.25.95
Laura Bow II.....................................................44.95
Learning at Home.................................................49.95
Learning Adventure...ABCs,123s,high school,college,games,tutors..10.00
Learning Heaven...ABCs to SAT,type,math,read,spell,sign lang.....14.95
Legend of Kyrandia...Fantasy/role playing,100 scenes-dos or win..28.95
Let's Go:Budget Guide to USA..Best sites,motels,resturants,more..24.95
Library of the Future 1..1150+ pieces literature from 450 titles.38.95
Library of the Future 2..2M+ pieces literature from 950+ titles.228.95
Lifestyles-R & F Cookbook..Secrets of the stars..................31.95
Little Red Riding Hood...........................................37.95
Loom...Lucasfilm,interactive,adventure to land of mystical bird..18.95
Lord of the Rings...same as the classic book version.............48.95
Lost in Time...he plotted your doom centuries before your birth..24.95
MacMillan Dictionary-Children..12M+ words,1000+ pics,400 sounds..22.95
Mad Dog McCree...Arcade shooting game w/motion picture action....38.95
Magazine Rack....................................................20.95
Majestic Places...Photos-Mt.Everest,McKinley,music,more..........34.95
Manhole..........................................................35.50
Maniac Mansion #2: Day Of The Tentacle...........................43.95
Mantis..Fly XF5700 experimental fighter of future-fight aliens...19.95
Mario is Missing...Find Mario-teaches geography..................26.95
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing..Renowned,expanded help/lessons......19.95
Mayo Clinic...complete interactive family health guide...........19.95
Mega Clipart.....................................................26.95
Mega Movie Guide..Comprehensive info on 50M+ movies,search.......38.95
Microsoft Beethoven 9th Symphony..Analysis,notes,lyrics,insights.57.95
Microsoft Bookshelf 92..Concise Encyl,Am Hertge dict,more........26.95
Microsoft Bookshelf 93..Atlas,Dict,Encyl,Almanac,Quotes,Rogets...46.95
Microsoft Cinnemania '94..interactive review-21M+ movies,sound...58.95
Microsoft Dinosaurs MPC..Interactive journey thru their world....58.95
Microsoft Encarta '94...great multimedia encyclopedia............88.95
Microsoft Golf..WIN MPC edition-on par with reality..............48.95
Microsoft Mozart.................................................57.95
Microsoft Stravinsky.............................................57.95
Microsoft Music Instruments..sound samples,explore instruments...57.95
Microsoft Works..word process,spreadsheet,database,draw,comm.....36.95
Midi Music Shop..................................................19.95
Mixed Up Mother Goose..Ages 3+-Characters speak/sing-5 languages.19.00
Modblaster...300 classical,jazz,rock-play/analyze music files....17.95
Monarch Notes...Complete 200+ guides,pics,sound,narrations.......42.95
Monkey Island (Secrets of).......................................19.95
Mother Earth #2..lots of great BMP pictures for Windows..........27.95
Mother of All Clipart...23,000 images-one of the largest around..15.95

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Mozart...........................................................34.95
MPC Wizard-Windows...Tune a PC-CDROM tests,video/audio drv,demos.13.95
Multimedia, All American.........................................21.95
Multimedia Music Bach............................................27.95
Multimedia Tutor.................................................17.95
Murder Mystery Stories...........................................44.95
Murmurs of Earth.................................................42.95
National MM Parks Guide..Parks,monuments,historic,lakes,more.....19.95
National Geographic MPC Mammals...photos,text,movies,more........23.95
New Kid on the Block.............................................38.95
Newsweek Interactive...experience news thru video,audio,anim.....28.95
North American Fax Book..150M+ fax numbers,addresses-US/Can/Mex..32.95
North American Indians..text/image database,customs,family life..32.95
Oceans Below..Multimedia diving,17 sites,color pics,music,more...22.95
Officers Bookcase................................................32.95
Oxford English Dictionary...the best English dictionary around..895.00
Oxford English Refernce Library..8 works-English/Thesaurus,more.109.95
Our House (Family Circus)........................................42.95
Our Solar System..NASA/observ photos,star locators,astro data....12.95
PC Globe 5.0.....................................................49.95
PC Karoake (OEM).................................................29.95
PC Karaoke...Create/record your own music videos & sing-a-longs..74.95
PC Karaoke Kids w/Microphone.....................................44.95
PC Medic...Diagnose problems on your PC..........................27.95
PC Sig Games.....................................................23.95
Pentaminoes......................................................31.95
Peter Rabbit.....................................................24.95
Peter & the Wolf (Win3)...Unique version-Jack Lemmon narrates....22.95
Pharmicist Guide to Drugs..Stats on 200+ most popular drugs......26.95
PhoneDisc USA...Summer '93 set of 2 CDs-80 million residential...55.95
Photos to Remember...............................................34.95
Pinacotheca MPC..800 painters,bios & work,100's of tables........21.95
Pill Book...Just like the printed version-all about 1,500+ drugs.34.95
Pixel Garden.....................................................32.95
Places to Play...multimedia exploration of 150 US places to see..31.95
Plant Doctor.....................................................32.95
Playing with Language-English..language games to teach skills....22.95
Playing with Language-French...language games to teach skills....22.95
Playing with Language-German...language games to teach skills....22.95
Playing with Language-Japanese.language games to teach skills....22.95
Playing with Language-Spanish..language games to teach skills....22.95
Precision Mapping.Street maps,zoom,cad,clip,measure,print,search.67.95
Presidents,It All Started with George..speeches,timeline,essay...53.95
Project Gutenberg..classic lit,historical docs,reference,religin.18.95
Prophone Business 1993...7 million business listings.............20.95
Prophone (3 CD Set - '92)...33 million listings-1 bus/2 resident.27.95
Prophone 4th Qtr 1993 (7 CD).77 miln records-1 bus/6 residential.99.95
ProStar..........................................................48.95
Publique Arte...Thousands of 600 dpi images-.ZIP/.PCX formats....32.95
Publish It v2.0..complete DTP-word processer-graphics/layout-art.20.95
Publishers Dream Disc..1M's of PCX, ATM, TT fonts,clip-art,book..28.95
Publishers Paradise w/manual..1M+ clipart for WIN,Word Perf,more.25.95
Publishers Paradise Pro..........................................34.95
Publishers Powerhouse..750 TT fonts,8200 pcx clipart,manual......22.95
Putt Putt Joins Parade...........................................44.95
P.C. Medic (Fix your PC).........................................29.50
QRZ Ham Radio..entire FCC callbook,ham programs,club lists-5/93..14.95
QuickToons...6 full length public cartoons,Quicktime,color,b/w...35.95
Readers Library...2000 works of history,reference,literature.....19.95
Rebel Assault (Star Wars)..Control any of 4 vehicles on missions.48.95
Return of the Phantom...Interactive Cinema with nice music.......42.95
Return to the Moon...Explore moon thru images,video,sound,more...33.95
Return to Zork-save great underground empire from forces of evil.44.95
Revel Backroad Racer w/Model.....................................43.95
Revel European Racers w/Model...Great 3-D racing games...........43.95
Ring World.......................................................45.95
Roger Ebert Movie Companion......................................34.95
Rotor...Time Bandit,Airball,Rotor,lots of hi rez space photos....24.95
Sales Manager's Factomatic...relations of mgt/sales/personnel....29.95
Schumachers Prague Cookbook......................................44.95
Sci-Fi..Pics/Sound/Files-Star Trek,Star Wars,Fantasy,more....**..23.95
Scrabble Deluxe...Classic crosswords with many new features......26.95
Seals of the US Government.......................................32.95
Secret Island Dr. Quandry........................................39.95
Secret Weapons of the LuftWaffe.Lucasfilm,fly experimental craft.23.95
Secrets-Exec Success Stories.....................................29.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1..Solve case-be a sleuth-interactive..20.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2..Further mysteries-live video........48.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3..Further mysteries-intrigue-motion...49.95
Sherlock Holmes...Complete set of texts..........................14.95
Shakespeare...Complete set of texts..............................14.95
Sights & Sounds...Gifs & sound files.........................**..24.95
Snapdragon.......................................................39.95
So Much Screenware (Gifs)....................................**..27.95
Software Jukebox-All American Sports.............................42.95
Soundblaster MOD Files...........................................24.95
Sound Library v1 or v2..illust. interactive music exploration....17.95
Sound Works (Software)...Play audio discs on your CD drive.......17.95
Soundware Collection.............................................24.95
Space & Astronomy..1080 images,5M text files,earth,planets...**..23.95
Space Adventure..Voyage-explore space,history,full-motion video..24.95
Space Quest IV..Roger Wilco adventure,rock-n-roll soundtrack.....18.95
Space Shuttle...Train and fly one of 53 Nasa missions............24.95
Spirit of Excalibur..Role playing/fantasy game-medieval England..28.95
Sporting News-Pro Football..stats,reviews,profiles,team info.....33.95
Sports Illustrated Almanac.......................................42.95
Sports Best on CDRom...Parasailing,tennis,kickboxing,more........19.95
Star Child.......................................................39.95
Star Trek-25th Anniversary.......................................54.95

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Star Wars Chess MPC...play chess with the Star Wars characters...39.95
Stellar 7...Action arcade game,20 different enemies,7 worlds.....19.00
StickyBear Preschool.............................................36.95
Storybook Weaver.................................................39.95
StoryTime #1..Goldilocks,Red Hen,3 Bears-teaches read/spell......24.95
Storytime #2..Boy Cried Wolf,Milkmaid & Pail,Belling the Cat.....24.95
Storytime #3..Hare & Tortoise,Lion & Mouse,City/Country Mouse....38.95
Straight from Heaven..KJV,AV,ASV,Greek,Hebrew,Koran,Span,German..17.95
Street Atlas USA (v2-WIN)...Complete US streetlevel atlas........84.95
Strike Commander.................................................58.95
Super Clipart....................................................15.95
Super Fonts...collection of Adobe and Truetype fonts.............15.95
Super Games for WIN v1 or v2.....................................15.95
Super Programmer...Source code for C,paradox,dBase,Foxpro,etc....19.95
Swimwear & More (SVGA)...........................................28.95
Tempra Photo CD Software...similiar to Kodak.....................18.95
The Grammy Awards...Entire 34 year history,pics,45 min+ audio....35.95
The Holy Bible...................................................31.95
Time Almanac 1990................................................14.95
TimeTable Art/Entertainmnt..Chronology-cultural,4200 stories.....22.95
TimeTable Business/Politics..Chronology-wealth,power,knowledge...22.95
TimeTable History/Science..Chronology-earth/cosmic,6000 stories..18.95
Tony Larusa Baseball..Great visuals,2500 stats,play-by-play......56.95
Tortoise and the Hare............................................38.95
Too Many Fonts..TT,ATM,WFN,1st Pub,ghost script,HP laserjet......16.95
Too Many TypeFonts.514 TT fonts,393 ATM,modifiers,uploaders,more.12.95
TW Reference Library..Web. dict,thesaurus,speller,desk ref,legal.17.95
Total Baseball 1993...1871 to '92 world series,500+ pics,sound...22.95
Total Heart,The (Mayo Clinic)..48 videos,145 pics,60 min audio...38.95
Tropical Rainforest..100 sound/images-S.A. creatures & birds.....34.95
True Crime Stories...............................................36.95
Trump Castle & other games.......................................27.95
Twain's World..complete works-fiction/non-fiction,pics,biography.29.95
Twelve Roads to Gettysburg...comprehensive,MM,interviews,photos..44.95
U.F.O............................................................38.95
Ultima Underworld 1 and 2........................................59.95
Undersea Adventure..3D Deep Sea Hunt,Cruises,Sea Lab,Movies,more.48.95
Unix..386BSD,Linux,NetBSD,compl sources & binaries...............27.95
USA State Factbook...............................................30.95
USA Today, the 90s v.1..multimedia capsule of 90s news/events....27.95
USA Wars-Civil War...Chronology,photos,bios,campaigns,audio......30.95
USA Wars-Korea...'50-'53-photos,stats,glossaries,bios,facts......32.95
USA Wars-Vietnam...biographies,chronology,facts,audio............32.95
USA Wars-World War II...detailed text/image/sound presentations..32.95
U.S. Atlas MPC.Explore with maps,state/region/country info,miles.24.95
U.S. Atlas/Automap...maps,demographics,enviromental,conversions..28.95
U.S. Civics...learn USA for those who want to be US citizens.....32.95
U.S. History..(Bureau).1M+ photos,maps,tables,topics,107 books...18.95
U.S. Presidents...biographies/stats on 41 presidents/1st ladies..32.95
U.S./World Atlas w/Chessmaster & Mavis Beacon (4 Pak)............39.95
U.S./World Atlas...maps,demograph,conversions,oceanic,area codes.18.95
U.S./World Atlas MPC v3...windows version........................18.95
VGA Spectrum #2...thousands of gifs/sound files..................19.95
Victor, Vector, and Yondo:Vampire's Coffin.......................52.95
Visions of Saturn................................................22.95
Wacky Funsters...................................................29.95
Wave Pool........................................................19.95
Who Killed Sam Rupert...Interactive virtual murder mystery.......22.95
Wild Places...100 stunning photos,50 audio clips-wild America....22.95
Wing Commander 2 Deluxe..........................................34.95
Wing Commander 2/UUnderWrld......................................59.95
Wing Commander/Ultima 6.Revolutionary star fighter/magic-mystery.19.95
Wing Commander w/Secret Missions.................................24.95
Wolf Pack........................................................38.95
Women of Venus...all swimsuit pics from famous modeling agency...20.95
World Atlas 4 MPC...Explore each continent/country of the world..22.95
World View..Sound/piano music-images of earth & solar system.....22.95
World Vista Atlas..Tour 200 countries,music,1M+ pics,MPC.........29.95
World Fact Book..CIA/KGB Yearbook,Hamm.maps,flags,247 countries..14.95
World of Flight...Complete multimedia tour thru world of planes..35.95
World of Trains...Complete multimedia tour thru world of trains..35.95
World of Xeen-Might and Magic...3D animated adventure,much more..46.95
World Traveler..Hi-rez images,royalty free,pcx/gif,mm slide show.12.95
Wrath of the Demon...............................................22.95
Zip Code 9 digit...9 digit zipcoded directory of US addresses....22.95
CD Caddies (Sony Compatible)......................................4.50
Jewel Cases.......................................................1.45
Windows 3.1 with mouse bundle....................................52.95
Pro Audio Spectrum 16 Basic.....................................138.95
Pro Audio Spectrum 16...........................................164.95
Panasonic CR562B with controller-double spin internal CDROM.....239.95
Chinon 535 SCSI Internal (Bare)...280ms access/330kb transfer...399.95
Toshiba 3401 SCSI Internal (Bare)..200ms access/330kb transfer..449.00
Pioneer 600A (Bare)..600ms/150kb transfer..709.00...Cash Price..689.00
Pioneer 600A w/8 bit Kit...................789.00...Cash Price..769.00
Pioneer 602X (Bare)..600ms/double spin.....859.00...Cash Price..839.00
Pioneer 602x w/8 bit kit(avail late 1/94)..939.00...Cash Price..919.00
Pioneer 604X (Bare)..300ms/612kb transfer.1069.00...Cash Price.1039.00
Pioneer 604X w/8 bit Kit..................1149.00...Cash Price.1119.00
Pioneer 1804X (Bare) 300ms/612kb transfer.1995.00...Cash Price.1885.00
 
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* We try to meet all competition. * Visa/MC/Amx/Disc/Dinrs/Cart/Chek/COD
* No surcharges. Full catalog with* For QUESTIONS/CATALOGS/ORDER STATUS
* descriptions on BBS-PCJCDS.ZIP. *  (No Exceptions) (9-7) 615-339-0235
* No CODs on drives.  Most titles *   BBS HST/14400  615-4782890/4791047
* in stock. Shipping not included *   Compuserve          - 71754,3514
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *  Internet-Doug.Carpenter@Junction.Cld9.Com

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From: GREG COBB                              Number: 9495
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/01/94  1:32p
Subj: Philips Driver                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


Does anyone have a current Philips CDROM driver I could get from you?  The one
I have says 1991, and I can't use it and any memory manager together.  I'd
appreciate it.

-G-


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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 9496
  To: PETE DINNELLA @ 924/1                    Date: 01/01/94 10:52a
Subj: The Animals                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Greetings Pete !

In a message to All <12/31/93> Pete Dinnella @ 924/1 wrote:

PD|     Just a quick question to anyone out there who might know.  I have
PD| "The San Diego Zoo Presents The Animals" by Software Toolworks, it
PD| came packaged w/ my SB Discovery kit.  Seems that I can not get the
PD| photos to display correctly.  All the photos look as if they are off by
PD| a pixel.  All the blues are bright purple, kind of like one of those old
PD| LSD posters you buy at a head shop.  All the video's display fine.  Also
PD| all the photos in "Toolworks Encylopedia" display perfectly.

I had trouble with it too at first and I changed to 640x480 and it
worked fine for me, you might try 800X600.

 * WCE 1.5/2163 * John Wayne would have used WcEDIT!


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From: ROBERT BRIGGS                          Number: 9497
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/31/93 10:23a
Subj: Cd wanted                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Wanted to buy:

        A copy of a CD called Fun-N-Games, published by me, last year.

===Bob Briggs

 * SLMR 2.1a * The penalty for bigamy is -2- mother-in-laws!


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9498
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/31/93  1:11a
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR NEW CATALOG!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

***************************************************************************
   FREQ OR DOWNLOAD STARVECTOR'S CURRENT CATALOG W/ 350+ CD-ROM TITLES!
***************************************************************************

 To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 350+
 CD-ROM titles that we stock, you may either download our catalog file from
 our BBS, or Freq (file request) it.

 BBS:   509-457-0206 - Download STARCAT.EXE from <F>ile menu. (1st call)
 FREQ:  1:3407/101 - File request STARCAT.ZIP

 Our new BBS now has an online order door with all our current titles and
 new lower prices!  All callers may d/l our catalog and/or place an order
 on the first call!

 Please feel free to call our BBS at 509-457-0206.  The system is using a
 U.S.R. Sportster 14.4, so you should have no problem logging on at any
 speed between 300bps and 14,400bps.

 While online, you may want to download one or more of the CD-ROM file
 listings that are available also.

 The Starvector BBS is online, and waiting to serve you!  Look for
 continuous updates and improvements in the near future, with more CD
 file listings, new online doors, and more!


 * SLMR 2.1a * I think my data transmission is low on fluid.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9499
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/31/93  1:11a
Subj: TOP 5 NEW CD-ROMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #2:  TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES   |
         |________________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

>CD POWERBOX 2 * The newest of the new! Current shareware hits. BBS.....$29
>DIGITAL DREAMS 2 * Newest all-original "R" CD. No dupes to 1! BBS......$29
 REBEL ASSAULT * New and hot from Lucasarts. Great interactive game.....$49
>HAM RADIO/SCANNER COMPANION * Lots of essential utilities for Hams.....$23
 VIRTUAL REALITY STARTER KIT * The "next dimension" for your PC.........$49

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * E-Mailing frequencies are open Captain.

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From: RICHARD JOHNSON                        Number: 9500
  To: L RICHARD JOHNSON                        Date: 12/31/93 12:48p
Subj: CD Rom Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I DO THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I AM NOT MAD AT YOU FOR THAT AT ALL SO DO
NOT TAKE IT LIKE THAT MY OK .THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT OK.
/S
/S

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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 9501
  To: CHARLIE JARMAN                           Date: 12/31/93  9:40a
Subj: Re: DR. Line of CD's                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Charlie -

I never got a response, so I'm reposting my original message.
Did you ever receive it?
                                                - Arnie :+}


20 Dec 93, Arnie Gross writes to Charlie Jarman:

  CJ> Buy all four for just $42.00

  CJ> Shipping is $3.00/1-2 disks

How much is shipping on the four?

  CJ> Coming Soon!  Dr. OS/2  Dr. Clipart  Dr. Fonts for Windows
  CJ> Dr. Music Lab   Dr. Sound Factory*  Dr. AVI for Windows*

  CJ> These are introductory prices for the version 2 releases of
  CJ> the popular Dr. series of CD's from Accurate Research, Inc.
  CJ> Follow up orders will be at a significant increase in price.

Which means that the pre-orders for the  "Coming soon" titles are
at the $12 price?  Or four for $42 ?

Very confusing ad.  I'd like to purchase "OS/2", "Fonts", "Music",
and "Sound" (all "coming soon"), but have NO IDEA how much to send!

                                                - Arnie :+}


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 9502
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/31/93  7:27a
Subj: Adult CD Discs for trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following adult cd discs for trade:

FAO 3
Physical Therapy
Adult Reference Library

Want shareware bbs ready or other adult discs.  Thanks

Randy

 * QMPro 1.51 * Program too small to fit into memory.


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From: PAUL WEST                              Number: 9503
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/29/93  9:45p
Subj: Happy 1994                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To all the great people in this forum I would like to wish you all
a happy and very prosperous 1994.

And, <devilish grin> if you vote for a Libertarian in 1996, I will
guarantee you a very prosperous 1997. ;)

Paul
 
... CLINTON: "I said 'No gnu taxes!' Do you see any gnus being taxed?"
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 9504
  To: MATT SCHUTTLOFFEL                        Date: 01/01/94 10:26a
Subj: Calculus                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS> > Calculus (Anton) 1st 3 chapters ................  $20

MS>Is this to accompany the college calculus text "Howard Anton's Calculus"?  I
MS>so, where did you purchase this disk? What do you mean by `1st 3 chapters?'
MS>the book, there are quite a bit more than three chapters, so does this mean
MS>that I'd need to purchase more disks?  If so, are they available, and where?

   Yes it is based on the book and is just the first three chapters.
   It comes with a coupon to purchase the whole course on another CD.
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Registered Symantec Q&A Consultant


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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 9505
  To: BOB MONTGOMERY                           Date: 01/01/94  3:32p
Subj: Montgomery vs noga et al                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The more I read of your windy diatribe, the more unhappy I became. In the end,
I decided I just do NOT like your attitude.  Is it something they put in the
Houston water supply that makes you and many of your neighbors appear so nasty
and unreasonable?

I have no use for your program, personally, so you won't find me in your list
of registered users.  But I bet a LOT of those names on your list are there
because of my many efforts in the past.  Part of my hobby is to visit BBSs far
and wide, downloading here, uploading there. I have a large collection of
CD-ROM discs, some of which include a version or two of your program; when I
make up a set of discs for friends who want specific parts of the shareware, I
have almost always included whatever was newest from you.  But that is ended,
as far as you are concerned.  I give away shareware for fun, making not even
one cent for it.  I wouldn't handle yours again for ANY amount of money.

Many versions of VPIC have come through here, eventually finding their way to
users; and yes, there probably are some out there who do NOT register.  But
there are others who DO.  I had hoped until just now that a number of the
Disabled American Vets that got files from me in the past did.  I'll make an
exception in YOUR case now.  Maybe some of your registered users got their
version on one of the discs that Lee Noga marketed.

Of course, she will never again help you sell any of your programs. Nor will I.
 And I will be trying to convince my various sysop friends to drop your file
from their lists, and avoid future versions.  None of us want to get into a
pissing contest with the likes of you or your pals.

You can have your temper trantums if you wish, but those of us out here in the
marketplace will have the final say.  You are OUTTA here, bud! Please don't
waste any more of the system bandwidth with some sort of assinine excuse or
reply.  You had your say, and I had mine.

the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio, USA
===
 * DeLuxe 1.21 #8814 * Perhaps your proctologist should do a craniectomy.


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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 9506
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 01/01/94  5:29p
Subj: your MO                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Got your MO late yesterday.  Mail was late.  It will go out on 1-3-93, asap. 
Thanx.  Looks like Christmas mail rush did you in. :>

 * MKRead v1.04 * Odo, is there any more jello in the fridge?  Odo?  Odo??


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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 9507
  To: DANNY TSENG                              Date: 12/21/93  8:27a
Subj: Re: Os/2 cd                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DT> Hello ALL! 
 
 DT> I'm looking for a CD which has collected the newest shareware for 
 DT> OS/2 2.1. 
 DT> Could anyone give me some suggestion? 
 
Damar Enterprises features a full line of shareware disks.  The OS2/Box is the 
one that should fill your need.  Its over 300 megs of purely OS/2 2.x
completely 
BBS ready and has a graphical user interface to boot!  We just pressed it in 
October of 1993 so you'll find VERY new files.  There are other OS/2 disks out 
there so be sure to ask for features that'd you like (BBS ready, GUI, etc.) 
 
Check with StarVector software or any of the other fine dealers in this echo 
that carry CDROM's to get pricing... 
 
Thanks for considering our products! 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
 
  
... Damar Enterprises - Home of the UNIVERSAL INTERFACE! 
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From: HARRY MITCHELL                         Number: 9508
  To: RICK WICKER                              Date: 12/27/93  1:20p
Subj: Re: Hard core                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the tip mon.  I'll will look around for it and i'm shore i'll like
it.  I was thinking of running a board i have in the past i mean it's such a
big job at times that's the only thing that i hate.  So anyways i'm tring to
figuer out were to start.  For example messages,games, that type of thing i got
a bunch of files i don't have it on a CD i wonder if some one would make one
for me with the titles but wouldn't charge a lot of money hmm.  
Anyways thanks for your impute
/s
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 9509
  To: L RICHARD JOHNSON                        Date: 01/01/94  9:28p
Subj: Refund                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello L!

31 Dec 93 16:45, L Richard Johnson wrote to Pat Rickerson:

 LRJ> Pat,
 LRJ>    I would like a refund of my $200 for the drives you sent me. I will
 LRJ> not send the drives back to you to look at as I feel it is a further
 LRJ> waste of my time. Upon receipt of my refund, I will then mail back the
 LRJ> drives. Basically you will be buying the drives back. I will not send
 LRJ> them before I have money fron you as they will be evidence for any
 LRJ> charges that may result if you fail to refund my money. Please call me
 LRJ> voice when you receive this message.

My husband talked to you and you agreed to send the drives back to me for us to
check them out. If you did not want to do this why didn't you tell him that on
the phone. I will refund your money as soon as the drives are sent back to me,
that is how I perfer to do it, (even stores want their things back before you
get a refund).
Pat

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From: GERARD AUVRAY                          Number: 9510
  To: JULIEN PIERRE                            Date: 12/28/93  3:11p
Subj: Vitess transfert                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bonjour cher Sysop. J'ai rcupere toute la base de messages sur les ventes de
CD-ROM. Cela fait pres de 1500 messages. Ce fut tres long car je ne depasse pas
350 car/sec ce qui est tres loin de du debit attendu. As tu d'autres
utilisateurs qui ont des pb. identiques ?
Amities GERARD

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From: PETE DINNELLA @ 924/1                  Number: 9511
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/31/93  5:51p
Subj: The Animals                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello,
    Just a quick question to anyone out there who might know.  I have
"The San Diego Zoo Presents The Animals" by Software Toolworks, it
came packaged w/ my SB Discovery kit.  Seems that I can not get the
photos to display correctly.  All the photos look as if they are off by
a pixel.  All the blues are bright purple, kind of like one of those old
LSD posters you buy at a head shop.  All the video's display fine.  Also
all the photos in "Toolworks Encylopedia" display perfectly.

Details:

     I have a Packard Smell 486/25 w/6Meg and an Identity SVGA card
w/1MEG. The MB VGA controller has been disabled.  I've tried in
1024X768 then switched to 640X480. Same same.  Every other graphic based
program I use works fine with this config.  Maybe a bad driver on the
disk?

      Figgered before I call them LD I'd give it a shot here first!

Thanks in advance!

                        ---===>PETE<===---

   
 * SLMR 2.1a * ...NAFTA (No American Factories Taking Applications)

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From: GARY KLOS                              Number: 9512
  To: SHERMAN HERRITT                          Date: 01/01/94  1:45a
Subj: !free cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
-> JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog... JR> If
-> you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.

Please send a copy to:

Gary Klos
1100 Magnolia
Mansfield, Tx. 76063


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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 9513
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/31/93 10:46p
Subj: Best Price for Pioneer?                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Who out there has the best price on a  Pioneer DMR604X. It will have to include
EVERYTHING (cables, drivers, card) ect..... Anyone?

CJK


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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 9514
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 12/31/93 10:48p
Subj: compadibility                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Howdy Matt.

         You sold me a few Hitachi CDR-1503S a few months back, (3 of
         them, and a card that will handle up to 4)... I was asked a
         question from someone, is it possible to also hook up the newer
         3500's and 3600's? Also in your opinion, what would be a half
         decent asking price for 3 of them, the drivers, card and cables.

Thanks

CJK

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From: CHUCK WARREN                           Number: 9515
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 01/01/94  5:35p
Subj: Hitachi 3600 cd rom drive               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->
->                     Here they are...   $99  each !
->
->  Hitachi cd rom drives model 3600 (that's right model 3600) $99 each.
->  Access time 350 ms.  Transfer rate 150 kb/s.  These EXCELLENT drives
->  can be daisy-chained up to 8 on each propitiatory controller card.

   What kind of discount for 6 in a 8-box?

   Chuck


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From: CHUCK WARREN                           Number: 9516
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 01/01/94  5:36p
Subj: Hitachi CD-ROMS                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> If you are in the market for CD-ROM drives that are low
-> cost, daisy chainable up to eight (8) units on one card
-> and are warrantied for a full 30 days.........

-> WE WILL BEAT ANY DEAL OFFERED BY ANY INDIVIDUALS SELLING
-> THESE DRIVES on any of the FIDO echoes.

   How much for 6 in an 8-box w/controller?

   Chuck


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From: MICHAEL GARCIA                         Number: 9517
  To: JOHN RUIZ                                Date: 12/27/93  5:47p
Subj: Re: Games For Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>  This message was from JOHN RUIZ to ALL
JR>  originally in conference  on BW!MAIL (The Boardwalk!)
JR>  and was forwarded to you by JOHN RUIZ
JR>                      ----------------------------------------
JR>              FOR SALE: DOS GAME  New and Used
JR>                  Lemmings                           $10.00
JR>                  Oh No! More Lemmings  never open.  $15.00
JR>                  Red Baron  never open.             $20.00
JR>                  Leisure Suit Larry 5  never open.  $20.00
JR>                  Sim City with Ancient/Future City  $30.00
JR>                  Indianapolis 500                   $10.00
JR>                  Make Offer  Will Sell All $75.00 you pay postage.
JR>  
JR>                  John Ruiz 206-226-2018 Renton Washington
To whom ever is trying to sell these DOS games...I would be interested in
buying the Lemmings games. pls get back to me..

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 9518
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/31/93  8:10a
Subj: NETMAIL                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks, Lee. Let's hope '94 is a better one for us all!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9519
  To: DARREL FARRIS                            Date: 01/01/94 12:32a
Subj: CD-ROM Wanted                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DF>Does anyone know of a CD-ROM disc which is mainly MIDI files? I am not
DF>interested in VOC, WAV, IFF, or MOD... just MIDI. If anyone has any please

Well, there is Midi Music Shop, which consists of three commercial Midi
applications, plus a good selection of sample Midi files.  In stock at
$26.50.  As for a strictly "all-Midi" sound disc, I'm not familiar with
one, but we do carry the "Midi & Wave Workshop" CD which has Midi, WAV,
and some MOD files on it.  Price is $19.50 on that one.

Sorry I couldn't help ya more, but if either of these two interest you,
give me a call!

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
 ORDERS:  509-457-2892  *  FAX:  509-457-2966  *  BBS (14.4):  509-457-0206


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9520
  To: ROB O'DELL                               Date: 01/01/94 12:32a
Subj: Discs WANTED                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RO>I'd like a package price on the following discs:
RO>1 - Pier 3
RO>2 - Night Owl 10.1

Price on 1-Pier 3 and 2-NO10.1 would be $77

RO>(Or 1 Night Owl 10.1 and 1 Pier 3)

$50

RO>1 - FAO set 1-3         (FAO 1, FAO 2 FAO 3)

Sorry, we don't carry those.

RO>I'm upgrading my BBS and need 5 discs, 2 shareware and the 3 FAO adult
RO>discs.  The third is for a friend.  So I need 2 sharewares with little
RO>dupes between them.  Is Pier 3 and Night 10.1 a good setup?

Not bad at approx 36% duplication, but Pier 3 and Powerbox 2 would be a
better combination at 13%, and Powerbox 2 is almost three months newer than
Night Owl 10.  Also, Pier 3 and Pier 2 is a great combo at 0% dupes.  Price
on Pier 3 and Powerbox 2: $44.  Pier 2 and 3: $49.  We also have Powerbox 1
and 2 as a set for $35......0% dupes.  Powerbox 1 is mostly 1992 file dates
and Powerbox 2 is all 1993.

If you're interested, call any time!

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
 ORDERS:  509-457-2892  *  FAX:  509-457-2966  *  BBS (14.4):  509-457-0206


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9521
  To: SUE KAMALO                               Date: 01/01/94 12:32a
Subj: Night owl 10.1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SK> LM> Two files with viruses detected in them in 10 have
SK> LM> been removed from the disk in 10.1.

SK>For the benefit of us newcomers, would you please PLEASE reveal the names of
SK>those two files that were detected?  I would DIE if any of my users aquired
a
SK>virus from my board!!!!  Thank you.

SPORT21C.ZIP and SF2_UP.ZIP.

.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9522
  To: LOUIS DIGGS                              Date: 01/01/94 12:32a
Subj: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LD>Mike, can you tell me if any of the CD-ROM disks are for the Macintosh?
Also,
LD>can one be placed on your mailing list for a catalog?

Gotcha down for a catalog.  Here is our list of Mac titles:

 American Girls (New!).........34.00    Mac Shareware.................19.00
 Audubon's Birds...............23.00    Majestic Places...............38.50
 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    Monarch Notes.................48.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........25.00    Peter and the Wolf............25.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 DTPro.........................26.50    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......48.00    Sleeping Beauty (New!)........25.00
 Family Doctor.................26.00    Space Time and Art (New!).....34.50
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.00    Total Baseball 1992...........24.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Total Baseball 1993 (New!)....28.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Interactive Story Time 3......29.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00
 Jets & Props..................28.50    World Fact Book M/M...........23.00
 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...29.00    World View....................24.00

    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9523
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/01/94 12:32a
Subj: NEW CD PACKAGE SPECIALS                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

      __________________________________________________________________
     |                                                                  |
     |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #5: SHAREWARE CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS   |
     |__________________________________________________________________|


   1. CD Powerbox 1        2. Pier 2              3. MVP Game Jamboree
      CD Powerbox 2           Pier 3                 House of Games
      Pier 3                  Monster Media 93       Gameware Collection
      ------                  ----------------       -------------------
      $49                     $59                    $49


   4. Pier 2               5. CD Powerbox 2       6. Software Vault Gold
      Pier 3                  CD Winbox 1.01         Software Vault Games
      CD Powerbox 2           CD OS/2Box             Software Vault Windows
      -------------           ----------             ----------------------
      $59                     $49                    $49


   7. Tech Arsenal         8. CD Powerbox 2       9. OS/2Box
      Technotools             Pier 3                 Hobbes OS/2 10/93
      -----------             ------                 -----------------
      $29                     $44                    $37


  10. Windows Collection  11. Windows Companion  12. OS/2Box
      Windows Companion       OS/2 Companion         Hobbes OS/2 10/93
      Windows 1993            Dr. Shareware          OS/2 Companion
      ------------            -------------          ------------------
      $59                     $49                    $53

         BONUS:  Get CD Winbox for only $12 with any package deal!

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9524
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/01/94 12:32a
Subj: NEWEST CD-ROM TITLES.....               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #1:  NEW CD ARRIVALS   |
           |____________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

 ADVENTURES IN HEAVEN * Ultimate game collection!.......................$19
 CD POWERBOX 2 * The newest of the new! Current shareware hits. BBS.....$29
 CD-ROM OF CD-ROMS * Complete guide to over 4000 current CD titles......$29
 CLIPART WAREHOUSE * Looking for a TON of nice clipart? Get it all here.$13
>COMPANION FOR OS/2 * Latest OS/2 CD w/ tons of utils and sound files...$19
 DARE, BLUFF, OR DIE * Exciting old West shoot'em up game...............$29
 DIGITAL DREAMS 2 * Newest all-original "R" CD. No dupes to 1! BBS......$29
 DUNE * Exciting multimedia action game on CD! Great animation & sound..$39
 GAMES COLLECTION * A pure-games CD featuring 90% '93 file dates! BBS...$26
>GAMES PLATINUM * Outstanding Windows games that are playable from CD...$22
 GIRLS OF MARDI GRAS * New "R" adult film showcasing wild party girls...$43
 GROLIER'S MPC 6.0 * The latest edition of Grolier's encyclopedia.......$45
 HAM RADIO/SCANNER COMPANION * Lots of essential utilities for Hams.....$23
 HEALTH & MEDICAL DIRECTORY * Guide to all doctors & hospitals in U.S...$27
 HOBBES OS/2 10/93 * The latest version w/ 3000 current OS/2 files!.....$16
 HOLLYWOOD THE BIZARRE * Lives & deaths of the stars w/ 1 hr. of voices.$43
 HORROR & SCI-FI FILMS * Full details of over 2300 films w/ 100s of pix.$43
 IMAGES OF NASA * The finest collection of authentic NASA photos........$25
>LANGUAGE DISCOVERY * A fun way to learn Spanish, German, & French......$19
 LEARNING HEAVEN * Mind challenging educational games...................$19
 LINUX OPERATING SYSTEM * Unix-like operating system for PC's...........$27
 MAD DOG MCCREE * Great shoot 'em up game with real, full-motion video..$39
>MIDI & WAVE WORKSHOP * Full of MID, WAV, & MOD files from Rolland......$19
 MULTIMEDIA MAGIC COLLECTION * Complete commercial programs & M/M demos.$28
>MVP GAME JAMBOREE * Shareware game selection from MVP, some registered.$13
 NEWSWEEK INTERACTIVE * An exciting look back at Newsweek's top stories.$26
 OCEANS BELOW * Fantastic multimedia exploration of undersea life.......$27
 OS/2BOX * The best, most recent OS/2 shareware CD. Fully BBS-ready.....$25
 -->SPECIAL PAK: OS/2BOX + HOBBES 10/93.................................$37
 PROPHONE 1993 4TH QTR * Latest update of the 7-CD phone directory.....$109
 PUBLISHER'S PARADISE PRO * Update with new Truetype fonts & clipart....$35
>PUZZLEMANIA * Fabulous jigsaw puzzles w/ over 300 different pictures...$15
 REBEL ASSAULT * New and hot from Lucasarts. Great interactive game.....$49
 RETURN TO ZORK * Live-action video game w/ Hollywood actors. Great!....$50
 SO MUCH SPACE! * A galaxy full of breathtaking scenes from space.......$24
 SOLAR HEAVEN * Nice collection of astronomy & astrology programs.......$23
 SPACE & ASTRONOMY * Over 7000 image & shareware files on astronomy.....$27
 SPACE SHUTTLE * Multimedia adventure aboard the shuttle w/ 50 missions.$25
 VIDEO MOVIE GUIDE * Reviews over 12,000 movies, from "B" to the hits...$28
>VIRTUAL 3D * Realistic 3D images on your monitor.  Comes w/ glasses!...$28
>VIRTUAL REALITY STARTER KIT * Everything you need for VR on your PC....$49
 WINDOWS COLLECTION * A Windows-only CD with ALL '93 file dates! BBS....$26

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

                  ------->> HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!! <<--------

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: BOB HAY                                Number: 9525
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/01/94 10:16a
Subj: NEWEST CD-ROM TITLES.....               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hello Mike!

Is there a CD-ROM with Windows games you can run straight from the CD without
de-archiving, transfer to the HD, etc?

Also, is there a new CICA Windows disk in the offing?

Bob

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From: LARRY ADAMSON                          Number: 9526
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 01/01/94  6:14a
Subj: B. B CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

David, for your info there are two BBS's in Denver with Adult sections that are
free. Adult access requires only proof of age. I started my BBS because so many
boards were requiring access fees, registration fees, upload/download ratios,
etc.  My board is free and I won't start charging because of you and your
photographers greed. I have one cd reader online and soon to be 4. Rest
assured, your B.B. will not be added to my collection.
 
Happy New Year To YOU!


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From: GERALD BANACH                          Number: 9527
  To: CARL MONTANTE                            Date: 01/01/94  6:44p
Subj: looking for Sony 535's                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for your remarks. Where did the used drive with the upgrade kit? Do you
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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 9528
  To: JASON KOLLER                             Date: 01/01/94  9:48a
Subj: wholesalers                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> What is the speed of that drive?  If it's not double-speed, do you ha
-> one in a double-speed version?  Thanks!

Hi Jason,
Sorry but the 101A is a single speed drive. We do have double speeds
including the new Sony 33 model internal.
Please give us a call if we can help!
Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE "Your CD-ROM drive headquarters!"
Voice   (517)892-5518
FAX     (517)892-5965
BBS     (517)892-5042
Fidonet   1:239/675
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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 9529
  To: JAMES CLEVENGER                          Date: 01/01/94  9:58a
Subj: Hitachi CDR-3600                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi James... in response to
-> Can you please give a little more detail on the Hitachi drive you are
-> advertising?  What are the specifics of the drive and what is the pri
The CDR-3600 is listed in the manual as having a access time of 450
msec, but we have found that they run at 375 msec with a transfer rate
of 153.6. 630 mb capacity in mode 2. These are daisy chainable up to 8
drives on one card.
We sell the drive for 130.00 each, with the cable, manual and software
drivers. WE WILL BEAT ANY ADVERTISED PRICE BY ANY BARGAIN BASEMENT
WHOLESALERS TO THE PUBLIC. We highly recommend these drives to anyone in
the market for daisy chainable CD-ROM drives. Please call us at:

MEG*A*BITE "Your CD-ROM drive headquarters!"
Voice   (517)892-5518
FAX     (517)892-5965
BBS     (517)892-5042
Fidonet   1:239/675
Internet  bedtelyo@cris.com

We DO accept VISA, Mastercard, Carte Blanche and Diners club without any
surcharge, which is something the BARGAIN BASEMENT WHOLESALERS are not
able to offer you!

Thanks for the inquiry!
Happy New Year!
Matt Bedtelyon
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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 9530
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/01/94  2:29p
Subj: Hitachi CDR-3600 CD-ROM's               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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If you are in the market for CD-ROM drives that are low
cost, daisy chainable up to eight (8) units on one card
and are warrantied for a full 30 days.........
MEG*A*BITE is pleased to announce that we made a large
purchase for over 600+ HITACHI 3600 CD-ROM readers.
These drives carry MEG*A*BITE's exclusive thirty day (30)
warranty that protects you from DOA's. External cabinets
are available for one, four and eight drive configurations.
The CDR-3600 drives have access speeds of 360 msec and a
transfer rate of 150 KBsec. These drives are HITACHI
quality through and through and will perform great in
personal and BBS usages. Now for the good news......
           Refurbished CDR-3600.......$130.00 or less
           IF8 Interface cards........$60.00 or less
           Cables.....................Free w/drive(s)
           Cabinets...................$CALL
    MULTIPLE DRIVE DISCOUNTS ARE AVAILABLE !!!!!!!
All of our drives are shipped UPS, with manuals and the
newest software drivers from Hitachi America!
You will see these drives advertised by others in these
echoes, so remember, call MEG*A*BITE and deal with the
CD-ROM professionals, not bargain basement wholesalers!
WE WILL BEAT ANY DEAL OFFERED BY ANY INDIVIDUALS SELLING
THESE DRIVES on any of the FIDO echoes. Remember, we
stock drives, cards, cases and cables for your every
need. So call us today were easy to remember......
                    We accept VISA!
                    We accept Mastercard!
                    We accept Carte Blanche!
                    We accept Diners Club!
We are MEG*A*BITE              Fido 1:239/675
1159 Orchard Road              Internet bedtelyo@cris.com
Essexville, MI 48732           A proud member of
Voice (517)892-5518            CRIS, a Sprint Network
FAX   (517)892-5965            located in beautiful
BBS   (517)892-5043            Bay City, MI




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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 9531
  To: JON CHRISMAN                             Date: 01/02/94 12:41a
Subj: CD 6-Pack                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Jon,
Call us about our deals on Hitachi 3600 drives, and Philips new SCSI
drives also. I think you will find the price's are great, and the
single drive units will always out perform a 6 pack.
Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE "Your CD-ROM drive headquarters!"
Voice   (517)892-5518
FAX     (517)892-5965
BBS     (517)892-5042
Fidonet   1:239/675
Internet  bedtelyo@cris.com


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 9532
  To: CHUCK ADAMS                              Date: 01/02/94 12:42a
Subj: External cd-rom kit                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Chuck,
If it is SCSI, give me a call, I have new case for them!
Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE "Your CD-ROM drive headquarters!"
Voice   (517)892-5518
FAX     (517)892-5965
BBS     (517)892-5042
Fidonet   1:239/675
Internet  bedtelyo@cris.com


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From: AMY MOODY                              Number: 9533
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/01/94  8:42p
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following CD's for sale:

  #1.  CD Deluxe Pack  includes:
        Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing
        US Atlas
        World Atlas
        ChessMaster 3000                    $35.00

  #2.  Loom  by LucasArts                   $15.00

  #3.  The Secret of Monkey Island          $15.00

  #4.  Where in the World is
       Carmen Sandiego Deluxe               $20.00

  #5.  Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe      $20.00

  #6.  MacroMedia for Windows includes:
       Action! v2.5 and ClipMedia v2.0      $20.00

  #7.  A Line in the Sand :
       Commemorating The U.S. Marine Corps
       participation in Operations Desert
       Shield  and Desert Storm              $5.00


If interested in any or all, please leave message here or call (210) 656-4090.

Thanks....
  Amy

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From: RICK HAWKINS                           Number: 9534
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/02/94  1:39a
Subj: CDROM Systems                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a six disk changer type system along with card for my bbs
without spending a fortune. I would like some information or advice. I hear
that any old changer will do, as in slow since it dumps to the hard drive to
download. Give me a price and I might give you a call. Ps> also let me know if
time is an issue since I will be waiting for a bonus check that might take a
few weeks. Thanks for your time. Rick

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From: RICK HAWKINS                           Number: 9535
  To: DAVID FORD                               Date: 01/02/94  1:58a
Subj: Frobidden Subjects                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

It was cute and now im over it, ( forbiden subjects) It has some old hacker
letters and its more for history than anything else in my humble opinion. I
was not impressed by the information on how to alter out of date scanners to
pick up cellular phones or how to make bombs out of simple chemicals ect. If
it was really shocking information it would sell for twice the price. FOr the
few bucks plus the free one its not that bad of a deal. I would not put it up
on my bbs but for personal info its ok. PS> as a former cop im not shocked by
much..most was old news to the well informed.

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From: JAMES CLEVENGER                        Number: 9536
  To: JOHN GRANT                               Date: 01/01/94  4:48a
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD-ROMs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

They've sold 1/2 a million CD32s already?  That is pretty impressive.
I haven't been able to find those sales figures (not accurate ones anyway). 
What is your source?  By the way, it's amazing how well the CD32 is selling
already, considering that the really good titles aren't even coming out until
the January Consumer Electronics Show (CES).
 
If it is any indication of things to come, old Commodore is going to make quite
a come back.  I wonder if Commodore stock will go to over $14 by December 1994
as some have predicted?  Maybe that's a way to make a lot of money, to buy it
at $3 1/2 now and sell at $14.  I could buy a couple of new computers with that
kind of growth.
 
By they way, I just saw the other major CD-ROM based video game machine today
for the first time, the 3D0 by Panasonic.  The driving game looked really
fabulous, but the price of the basic unit, at $700, is just bizarre.  A friend
of mine saw the price too and almost threw up.
 
It looks like 1994 is really going to be the YEAR of the CD-ROM.


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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 9537
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/02/94  7:27p
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Boris

Thought I read you were heading up to vnacouver for the computer show on jan
17, 18, 19 is that right......

Looks like I am going to make that show sooooodo you have any spare
tickets...(-:

It will be good to meet someone have only typed to in the past.....So bring
that latest windows disk we talked about earlier..


..Red..

yes Nanaimo Vancouver Island

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From: RON BRADLEY                            Number: 9538
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 12/29/93  5:59p
Subj: NEW CATALOG                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HI I was just browsing through the messages when I read yours and I was
woudering if it would be possible to recieve one of your catalogs? I
live in Calgary, Alberta so I would also like you to include a list of
any extra charges that would be added to the price. Thank you for your
time and I will be waiting eagerly for your catalog.
Ron Bradley
96 McKenna Cresent S.E.
Calgary, Alberta
T2Z 1Y5
Canada
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From: RON BRADLEY                            Number: 9539
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 12/29/93  6:25p
Subj: !FREE CD CATALOG!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Iwas reading through the messages and I was wondering if I could have
you send me one of your catalogs.  I live in Calagry, Alberta so I would
also like you to  include any added charges such as shipping , etc..
Thank you for your time.
Ron Bradley
96 McKenna Cresent S.E.
Calgary, Alberta
T2Z 1Y5
Canada
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From: HERBERT SMITH                          Number: 9540
  To: AMY MOODY                                Date: 01/02/94  3:03p
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi,
Interested in Secret Weapons and Carmen Deluxe.  Could I interest you in a
trade?  One ISOTEL surge protector, four outlets plus one for your
telephone/modem.  My  Isotel for your two CDs plus $8 to cover value plus
shipping.?
719-481-2483

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From: HOWARD RICE                            Number: 9541
  To: JEFF MASTERMAN                           Date: 12/28/93  8:20p
Subj: Encyclopedia                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JM|Would someone please comment on the available encyclopedias. I am thinking
  |about buying 94'Encarta but I can get Comptons for about the same money. I
wa
  |to know which package has the most useful information for my daughters age
10
  |and 13. Thanks.
  |===
  | * RM 1.2 00221 * I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it?


I read a review of the three big ones.  I have not used any of them.
Comptons and Croilers (spell) are for PC's and Mac's.  Croilers has
been around for the longest time and has more raw data. Therefore
the pictures are smaller and fewer.  MS's is PC only and has
multiple sizes and more color pictures.  Search interface was
discussed but I don't remember the details other than they like MS's
for the graphic interface of setting up search criteria.
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From: ANDREW WHITE                           Number: 9542
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 12/31/93  3:23p
Subj: !free Cd Catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
JR>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
JR>If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
JR>We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
JR>CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
JR>        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
JR>    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
JR>Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
JR>P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
JR>Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<
JR> 
JR>--- MsgToss 2.0c
JR> * Origin: "If you can't find it, call config.sys!" 216-296-4446
JR>(1:157/479)  

Please send a copy of your catalog to me at:
Andrew White
500 Jordan Road
Troy, NY 12180

Thanks

 þ CmpQwk 1.14 #448 þ VŒçšî¨!¨  Wî d™¥'t g™t ¥™ tŒ¥kŒ¥g vŒçšî!!!
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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 9543
  To: GERALD BANACH                            Date: 01/02/94  2:21p
Subj: looking for Sony 535's                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific Gerald Banach postulated to Charlie about looking for Sony 535's..


 GB> I have a Sony CDU535 with a Sony Interface CDB 241. Unfortunately, the
 GB> interface card died. I would like to replace it with a sound card but
 GB> I can not find one with a 40 pin connector. Do you have a suggestion?

        Gerald, all I know is that the 535 has a Sony Bus
        proprietary interface. I could not tell you any sound cards, off
        hand, that would work with this drive. I do sell the OPA-461
        card (16bit card, cable and S/W) for this drive.

 GB> I also noticed in one of your ads that you have a Sony 535 that is xa
 GB> complient. How is this so?

        This is accomplished using the optional OPA-X10 kit available
        from Sony (can be pruchased through me, too).

 GB> If worse comes to worse I am interested in finding a replacement CDB
 GB> 241 card in the event a sound card is not available.

        I'll be happy to help you.
                                   Charlie

... Leap Enterprises; P.O. Box 328; Cerro Gordo, N.C. 28430 (910)654-4658  
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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 9544
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/02/94 12:37a
Subj: CD-ROM drives '94                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    LEAP ENTERPRISES is a major source for your computer needs.
 We make no bones about not always being the lowest priced because
 we know that price alone does NOT make a GOOD deal. We sell top
 quality merchandise at good prices and we offer support after the
 sale. Thanks for considering us when making your next hardware or
 software purchase.

  CD-ROM   (E)= External  (I)= Internal  OS/2= Confirmed compat.
 ---------
NEC-
    CDR-74-1 (E) Dbl. spin SCSI..............$399.00
       280ms access/300k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD; MPC1; Mac

    CDR-84-1 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI..............$309.00
       280ms access/300k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD; MPC1; Mac; OS/2

    CDR-500 (I) TRIPLE SPIN SCSI.............$499.00\
       Below 200ms/256k buffer; PhotoCD              \Triple
                                                     / Spin
    CDR-600 (E) TRIPLE SPIN SCSI.............$589.00/
       Below 200ms/256k buffer; PhotoCD

    CDR-900 (I) ** QUADRUPLE SPIN ** SCSI....$999.00  Quadruple Spin!
       Below 200ms/Blazing fast!

Hitachi-
    CDR-3700 (I) AT..........................$399.00
       320ms access/150k xfer; MPC1

    CDR-3750 (I) SCSI........................$429.00
       300ms access/150k xfer/64k buffer; MPC1

    CDR-6700 (I) Dbl. spin Hitachi bus or AT.$435.00
       260ms access/300k Xfer/128k buffer;
       PhotoCD

    CDR-6750 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI..............$439.00
       260ms access/300k Xfer/128k buffer;
       PhotoCD

    CDR-8750 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI..............$459.00
       238ms access/307k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD; MPC2

    CDR-4000E Tower System with 4 CDR-6700...$2699.00 Tower system!

Sony-
    CDU-31-03 (I) Dbl. spin *Includes AT I/F.$165.00 *LOW PRICE*
       550ms access; Not the fastest, but
       this is a solid drive.

    CDU-535 (I) Sony bus.....................$275.00
       340ms access/150k xfer/8k buffer;
       XA compliant w/opt. kit

    CDU-561 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI...............$349.00
       265ms access/330k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD; OS/2

    CDU-541 (I) SCSI.........................$349.00
       380ms access/150k xfer/64k buffer; MPC

    CDU-7205/N (E) Sony bus..................$445.00
       340ms access; XA compliant w/opt. kit

Philips-
    CDD521 600MB RECORDER w/o software.......$4249.00 CD-RECORDER!
       Dbl. spin; Multiformats

Panasonic-
    CR-522 (I) * Includes AT I/F.............$199.00 *LOW PRICE*
       380ms access/150k Xfer;64k buffer;
       PhotoCD

    CR-562 (I) * Includes AT I/F.............$239.00
       340ms access/300k Xfer/64k buffer;
       PhotoCD

Texel DM3028 (I) SCSI........................$359.00
       240ms access/335k Xfer/64k buffer;
       PhotoCD

Teac CD-50 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI................$359.00
       265ms access/365k Xfer/64k buffer;
       PhotoCD; MPC

Toshiba 3401B (I) Dbl. spin SCSI.............$379.00
       200ms access/330k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD

    Other models available. We also carry over 350 CD-ROM disc titles
  for your pleasure, education and reference.
                                              Charlie


... Leap Enterprises; P.O. Box 328; Cerro Gordo, N.C. 28430 (910)654-4658
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From: JON PERSKY                             Number: 9545
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/01/94  6:03p
Subj: Re: Shareware CD's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BO> Jon, we have several cd's that would fit the above bill. One would be
 BO> "Cream Of The Crop II", which has received a lot of good comments. The
 BO> other would be "Gameware", which contains over 6,500 games on it and
 BO> the final disk would be "Window Users Archivers" 
 BO> over 650megs of icons,
 BO> wallpaper, back drops, utilties and more. All of 
 BO> the above titles offer
 BO> files.bbs structures and would be a great addition to any bbs system,
 BO> and yes, you could purchase all three for a lot less than $100.

 BO> Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy
 BO> to assist you further.
 
Thanks!! I'll give you a call next week.
 
Jon 8^D

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From: LARRY BUSSELL                          Number: 9546
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 01/02/94 12:12a
Subj: Night owl 10.1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Lois Frankel wrote in a message to Dave Reed:

LF> On 12-25-93  16:39 Dave Reed said something about Night owl
LF> 10.1, to which I reply: 
LF>  
 ->> N I G H T  O W L  10.1
 SB> What are the differences between 10 and 10.1?
 DR> Viruses.
    They took out the two Virus files..

TTYL,
           Larry

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From: PHIL TREVORROW                         Number: 9547
  To: CLIFFORD LOUIE                           Date: 01/01/94  6:30a
Subj: Iron helix & criticl path               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  I have Iron Helix. I didn't like the game. The graphics and sound were
outstanding, but game play sucked. You always get killed about 10 or 15 minutes
into the game. I am real disappointed.


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From: EXETER                                 Number: 9548
  To: BLAKE BARR                               Date: 12/31/93 12:22p
Subj: Cd-Rom Drive problem                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you have a Gateway 2000?

-Rajat Sethi

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From: RONNIE COHEN                           Number: 9549
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/01/94 12:17p
Subj: Re: Shareware CD's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to Jon Persky, Boris Osadciw said:
 > On 27 Dec 93 07:27pm, Jon Persky wrote to All:

 > >>    Can anyone lead me toward some quality shareware CD's for my 
 > >>    BBS? My ideal goal is to have one general shareware CD, one 
 > >>    games-oriented CD, and one Windows-oriented CD. FILES.BBS is a 
 > >>    MUST and I would prefer that the files be relatively recent 
 > >>    (mostly 1993, a few '92s are ok). And I don't want to spend 
 > >>    more than $100 for all three. If anybody can point me in the 
 > >>    right direction, even if all my specs don't match, please get 
 > >>    back to me.

 > >>    Thanks!

 > Jon, we have several cd's that would fit the above bill. One
 > would be
 > "Cream Of The Crop II", which has received a lot of good
 > comments. The
 > other would be "Gameware", which contains over 6,500 games on
 > it and
 > the final disk would be "Window Users Archivers" over 650megs
 > of icons,
 > wallpaper, back drops, utilties and more. All of the above
 > titles offer
 > files.bbs structures and would be a great addition to any bbs
 > system,
 > and yes, you could purchase all three for a lot less than
 > $100.

 > Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll
 > be happy
 > to assist you further.


 > Boris Osadciw

 > ... Without Silver Xpress, I DO NO MAIL!
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 > (1:157/46)
Jon: Cream of the Crop is good.  We have the latest JCSM (Nov 1993) CD-rom
that we are selling for $18.00, includes shipping.  Let me know if you are
interested.
Mom 'N' Pop's Software <ASP>
4205 Mariner Blvd. #169
Spring Hill, Fl. 34609
(904)-688-9108
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 9550
  To: CHUCK WARREN                             Date: 01/02/94 11:11a
Subj: Hitachi 3600 cd rom drive               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Chuck   Warren   wrote   in  a   message   to    Terry    Blount:

->
->                     Here they are...   $99  each !
->
->  Hitachi cd rom drives model 3600 (that's right model 3600) $99 each.
->  Access time 350 ms.  Transfer rate 150 kb/s.  These EXCELLENT drives
->  can be daisy-chained up to 8 on each propitiatory controller card.

CW>    What kind of discount for 6 in a 8-box?

 I have a package deal for the 8 box ( A $1,000  value ) for  $960
 including shipping and c.o.d.    At $99 a drive I  can't  offer a
 discount  unless  you  will  buy a  quantity  of  50   or   more.

 Call 205-824-2552


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 9551
  To: MARK CRANWELL                            Date: 01/02/94 11:14a
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Mark   Cranwell   wrote   in  a   message   to   Terry    Blount:

MC> HI TERRY: I  am  from  BRANDON,  MANITOBA,  CANADA  and  noticed
MC> your add for $99 CD-ROM drives. I was was  wondering  if  all  I
MC> have to do is plug it in and it works.

 These drives (like all others)  need a  controller  card,  cable,
 caddy, drivers.   Many people have the  cards  they  bought  with
 the model 3500's that will run these drives.  I  have  the  cards
 (that  will  run  up   to  8   of   these   drives)    for   $60.

MC> I also will need a
MC> card to hook it up as I have 2 hard drives now.

 Hard drives use different cards.

MC> What would
MC> be the total cost for the  drive  and  card.  Let  me  know  and
MC> maybe you will sell me one. I also would like  a  list  all  the
MC> discs you have for them. Bye from the frozen north.


 The  cost  of  the  controller  card  (including  cable)  is  $60
 The cost of the drive is  $99  you  can  put  up  to 8  of  these
 drives on the same controller card.

 Call 205-824-2552

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9552
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/02/94  6:40a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9553
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/02/94  6:40a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
                        ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $110.00 30day warrantee
Refurbished  NEC Model 36       CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee

                    ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee

                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
14.4 Power supply..................$10.00 ea.
external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
Shipping (drives)$25.00 for up to 2 drives,$40.00 for 3-4 drives.

                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
offering all
refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit, to be
shipped
upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30 days for
receipt of
your refurbished drive.

                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariant.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 9554
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 01/02/94  9:14p
Subj: Best Price for Pioneer?                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CK> Who out there has the best price on a  Pioneer 
 CK> DMR604X. It will have to include EVERYTHING 
 CK> (cables, drivers, card) ect..... Anyone?
 
We sell it for $1119 cash price and $1149 for credit card price.  Call
615-339-0235 if interested.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 9555
  To: ERNIE ROBINSON                           Date: 01/02/94  9:16p
Subj: Re: Employment Advice                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What does 500 lines of message on employment advice have to do with CDROM
sales??

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 9556
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 01/02/94  9:17p
Subj: Re: Montgomery vs Noga                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 LN> We have asked you more then once to remove this 
 LN> from this forum and the public eye. It would be in 
 LN> your best interest to do so.
 
Amen to that.  I'm getting a little tired of reading about their legal problems
<g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 9557
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 01/02/94  9:27p
Subj: Hitachi CDR-3600                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MB> We DO accept VISA, Mastercard, Carte Blanche and 
 MB> Diners club without any
 MB> surcharge, which is something the BARGAIN BASEMENT WHOLESALERS are not
 
Where's the American Express??? <g>

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 9558
  To: CASEY ROMANSKI                           Date: 12/31/93 10:12a
Subj: SPECIALS FOR X-MAS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Hmmmmmmm. Then why does my CD Drive operate with a IDE cable?

 40 pins does NOT an IDE cable make.
 I have also seen 40 line cables used for floppy drives, printer cabling, etc.

 That's like saying "it's a 25 pin DB connector, MUST be a serial port" when PC
Clones happen to use a DB-type 25 pin connector for parallel ports AND for
serial ports and in a few cases for SCSI connectors!


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 9559
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/01/94  5:55a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1 OF 4                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Brice's Library
 CD-ROM and Book Price List 3 December 1993

 5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
 Indianapolis, IN 46220
 Tue Thu 11am - 8pm  Wed Fri 11am - 6pm  EST
 (317) 726-1980 voice  (317) 726-1387 BBS (24 hour, 1200/2400/v.32 supported)

 FidoNet 1:231/190   InterNet sysop@f190.n231.z1.fidonet.org
 All prices are in U.S. Dollars and include any applicable Sales Tax.
 U.S. Shipping included if prepaid (please allow 7 days for check to clear).
 Sales to out-of-U.S. addresses require payment in U.S. funds.
 We cannot accept Credit Card payment at this time.

 1001 Utilities                    10   Macromind Clipmedia v.1: Busines 339
 1992 CD-ROM Collection w/CIA      63   Mad Dog McCree                    36
 20'th Century Almanac (5 disc)    74   Made in the USA                   28
 20'th Century People (OEM)        25   Madness of Roland (Mac)           50
 20'th Century Sports (OEM)        25   Magazine Rack                     19
 20'th Century Video Almanac (OEM) 25   Magic Flute (Mac)                 55
 386 BSD Unix                      20   Majestic Places                   36
 501 Sound Waves                   19   Mammals (Nat. Geographic)         24
 600 Days to Cocos Island (Mac)    59   Man Enough                        65
 7'th Guest                        50   Manhole                           35
 7'th Guest (OEM)                  36   Mantis Experimental Fighter       60
 9 Digit Zip Codes                 32   Mantis Experimental Fighter (OEM) 16
 9000 Sounds                       25   Map Expert w/ Street Atlas USA   263
 999+ .WAV files                   19   Maps 'n' Facts PC Globe           44
 A Christmas Carol                 26   Mario is Missing Deluxe           52
 A Christmas Carol (FTL)           53   Mario Missing w/World Atlas (OEM) 24
 A Hard Day's Night (Mac)          34   Mario Teaches Typing            Call
 A Line in the Sand                34   Masterpiece Library               36
 A Silly Noisy House (Mac)         49   Matinee Screen Saver              43
 A+ Grade Builder                  34   Mavis Beacon Teach Typing (MPC)   65
 About Cows                        25   Mavis Beacon Typing (MPC) (OEM)   20
 AD&D Dark Sun: Shattered Lands    69   Mayo Clinic (MPC)                 20
 AD&D Dungeon Hack                 45   Mayo Clinic (Mac)                 24
 AD&D Fantasy Empires              59   Mega A/V                          26
 ADA Programming                   20   Mega Movie Guide                  39
 Adobe Type on Call                81   Microsoft Beethoven: 9'th Symph.  57
 Adobe Type on Call (Windows)      83   Microsoft Bookshelf v1993        149
 Adventures                        40   Microsoft Bookshelf '93 upgrade   50
 Adventures in Heaven              15   Microsoft Bookshelf '93 (OEM)     39
 Adventures of Pinocchio (MAC)     59   Microsoft Cinemania (MPC)         57
 Adventures of Willy Beamish       54   Microsoft Dinosaurs               69
 Adventures of Willy Beamish (OEM) 17   Microsoft Encarta '94             95
 Aesop's Fables (eBook)            40   Microsoft Golf                    49
 Ageis Guardian Fleet              69   Microsoft Mozart                  69
 AGFA Intro PAC - 20 Typefaces     82   Microsoft Multimedia Viewer      349
 Air Warrier                       58   Microsoft Musical Instruments     58
 Aircraft Encyclopedia             27   Microsoft Office for Mac v3.0    599
 Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp    34   Microsoft Office for Windows     599
 All American Sports               44   Microsofr Office Pro for Windows 699
 All Music Guide                   57   Microsoft Stravisky               69
 Aloha, Hawaii!                    20   Microsoft Visual C++ Pro v1.0    399
 Altsys Virtuoso for Solaris v1.0 595   Microsoft Multimedia Word v2.0   429
 Amanda Stories                    41   Microsoft Works                  159
 Amanda Stories (Mac)              49   Microsoft Works (OEM)             39
 Amazing Universe (PC/Mac)         59   Middle East Diary                 26
 America Alive Guidisc (Mac)       87   MIDI Connection                   53
 American Business Phone Book '92  15   MIDI Music Shop for Windows       17
 American Business Phone Book '93  25   Might and Magic: World of Xeen    59
 American Heritage Ilus Ency Dict  50   Mixed Up Mother Goose             54
 American Journey 1896-1945        49   Mixed Up Mother Goose (OEM)       17
 American Vista Atlas (MPC)        30   Monarch Notes                     48
 American Vista Atlas (Mac)        60   Money, Money, Money!              29
 America's Premier Shareware       14   Monster Disk (2 discs)            35
 Americans in Space (PC/Mac)       59   Monster Media '93                 23
 Aminet                            17   Monster Media '93 #2              29
 Anecdotes v.1                     15   Mosaic Magic                      27
 Anecdotes v.2                     15   Mother Earth II                   30
 Anecdotes v.3                     15   Mother of All Clip Art            14
 Anglo-Saxons                      44   Movie Select                      55
 Animals Encyclopedia (MPC)        30   Movie Select (Mac)                55
 Animals in Motion                 40   Movies on TV and Videotape        34
 Animals of San Diego Zoo (MPC)    69   Mowgli's Brothers                 36
 Animals of San Diego Zoo (Mac)    68   Mozart Multimedia Musicbook       37
 Animals San Diego Zoo (DOS) (OEM) 19   Mozart Multimedia Musicbook (Mac) 38
 Animals San Diego Zoo (MPC) (OEM) 21   Mozart: Dissonant Quartet         49
 Animation Festival (MPC)          26   MPC Wizard                        14
 Animation Festival (MPC) (OEM)    20   Multi Bible                       59
 Annabel's Dream of Ancient Egypt  55   Multimedia Audio Collection       30
 Arctic Baron                      39   Multimedia Computor Tutor         17
 Arthur Teacher Trouble (MPC)      56   Multimedia Environments           23
 Arthur Teacher Troubl (MPC) (OEM) 22   Multimedia Handisc (Mac)          87
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble (Mac)    49   Multimedia Magic Collection       15
 ASP Advantage                     20   Murder Makes Strange Deadfellows  46
 Aster*X Base v2.1 for Sun OS     579   Murmurs of Earth (3 discs)        46
 Aster*X Power Pack for Sun OS    819   My Advanced Label Designer        54
 Astrology Source (PC/Mac)         59   The Myst (Mac)                    69
 Atlas of U.S. Presidents          26   National Parks (MPC)              20
 Audio Collection (MPC)            17   Nautilus Backpack Vol.I           44
 Audioshop (Mac)                   75   Nautilus Backpack Vol.II          44
 Audubon's Birds                   18   Nautilus Backpack Vol. III        49
 Audubon's Mammals (MPC)           18   Nautilus Best of Photography      53
 Authorware Star                   34   Nebula                            27
 Autodesk Explorer                 85   NEXTStep for Intel               649
 B17 Flying Fortress/S. Service II 40   New Basics Electronic Cookbook    58
 Baccus and Comus                  50   New Basics Electronic Cookb (OEM) 29
 Backroad Racers                   59   New Kids on the Block             50
 Baker's Dozen Game Pack Windows   16   New Kids on the Block (Mac)       50
 Barney Bear Goes to School        15   New York at it's Best             23
 Barney Bear Goes to Space         15   New Zeland Birds                  29
 Barron's Book Notes               30   Newsweek Interactive              25
 Baseball's Greatest Hits (Mac)    59   Night Before Chrismas             27
 Battle Chess (original) (OEM)     20   Night Owl Business Software       20
 Battle Chess (enhanced) (OEM)     24   Night Owl Games                   19
 Battle Chess (enhanced) (Mac)     68   Night Owl Graphics                24
 Beauty and the Beast              36   Night Owl 9                       24
 Beauty and the Beast (OEM)        17   Night Owl 10                      29
 Beethoven: The 9'th Symphony      79   North American Fax Phonebook      27
 Berlitz Thnk Tlk French (7 disc) 109   North American Indians            26
 Berlitz T & T German (7 disc)    109   NOVA (for NeXT)                   20
 Berlitz T & T Italian (7 disc)   129   Novell Unixware Personal ed.     209
 Berlitz T & T Spanish (7 disc)   129   Novell Unixware Development kit  499
 Best Business                     23   Novell Unixware Personal Util.'s 209
 Best of Microprose                24   Nutcracker                        30
 Better H&G Hlthy Cooking (PC/Mac) 57   Ocean in Motion (QT)              60
 Beyond the Wall of Stars          27   Oceans Below                      26
 Bible Lands and Stories           40   Officer's Bookcase                25
 Bible Library                     24   Oldies but Goodies                16
 Bibles and Religion               12   Orchestra (Mac)                   67
 Biblio-Tech                       20   Oregon Trail                      55
 Bicycle CD-ROM Collection         39   Original Shareware 1992           10
 Blue Force                        46   OS/2 v2.1                        179
 Book of Lists #3 (PC/Mac)         75   OS/2 v2.1 Upgrade                 99
 Book of Lists #3 (PC/Mac) (OEM)   40   Our House (Family Circus)         45
 Boris Vallejo Fantasy Art         48   Our Solar System                  12
 Brain Drain                       14   Oxford English Reference Library  94
 Bridge Deluxe w/ Omar Sharif      65   Pacific Islands                   30
 Britain at it's Best              24   Patrician                         45
 Britannica Select Software        16   PC & DOS Introductory Module      13
 Business Assistant                10   PC Game Room                      18
 Business Backgrounds              31   PC Medic                          17
 Business Backgrounds (OEM)        20   PC-SIG #12                        20
 Business CD                       29   PC-SIG #13                      Call
 Business Library v.1              46   
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From: CARL MONTANTE                          Number: 9560
  To: GERALD BANACH                            Date: 01/02/94  2:19p
Subj: looking for Sony 535's                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                                       [ Quoted from Gerald Banach ]    
 Thanks for your remarks. Where did the used drive with the upgrade     
 kit? Do you think they would just sell the upgrade?                    
                                                       [ End Quote ]    

Gerald, The upgrade kit is from  TRANTOR SYSTEMS, LTD. 
                                5415 Randall Place 
                                Freemont, CA 94538 
                                (510) 770-1400 
                                (510) 770-9910 - FAX



The Upgrade kit I have is called "SONY - PF".  You may want to check to
see what they want for it. I am not using mine, so I may be willing to
part with it.

 
                                          Carl
 
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From: ROBERT BRIGGS                          Number: 9561
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/01/94  6:43p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD Wanted:

        Title:   Fun-N-Games

        I published this CD last year, and ended up selling every copy. Having
set a BBS back up, I would like to have a copy.

===Bob Briggs


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From: KIRK BAXTER                            Number: 9562
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/01/94  5:25p
Subj: WANTED:STREET ATLAS &/OR GLOBAL EXPLORER  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WANTED:
   Current version of Street Atlas USA
   Current version of Global Explorer
 
Please reply with asking price either in this echo, or by netmail to 
   Kirk Baxter @ 1:280/1 or 
   Baxter@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
 
Best of 1994 to all.

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From: DICK WALSH                             Number: 9563
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/02/94 11:21a
Subj: RE: CD'S FOR SALE                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I got it and one of the guys on the home bbs does want me to give him a copy so
I will just put it in the Open downloads for him and others do
d/l if they have CD ROM drives.  <Dick>

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From: RICHARD MONTOYA                        Number: 9564
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/01/94  7:45a
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Joe Rinehart to All <=-

 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
 JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...

Joe, I would appriciate a copy of your catalog. Please forward to:

Richard Montoya
10132 Cork Dr.
El Paso, Texas 79925

Thank you

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From: KEN STOVOLD                            Number: 9565
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 12/30/93  1:18a
Subj: Free cd-rom catalog                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send me a catalog
K. Stovold
63 Lavenham Crescent
Winnipeg, Manitoba
Canada
R3R 1T4


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From: TONY PSALTIS                           Number: 9566
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/02/94  4:59p
Subj: !free cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
  >For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...

Joe,

Please send me a catalog...

So says...

               o_O          Anthony J. Psaltis
              ={ }=          19573 Cyclone Dr
                U        Cleveland, OH 44135-1702

                   OS/2 - The future is NOW!

               CompuServe: 70514,22
               FidoNet:    Tony Psaltis at 1:157/2
               InterNet:   bj709@cleveland.freenet.edu


            Seen on a T-Shirt at a place far, far away...

          This is your brain: IBM OS/2 Workplace Shell
          This is your brain on drugs: Microsoft Windows/NT

===
 * QMPro 1.51 * OS/2 2.1: Windows with bullet proof glass.


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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 9567
  To: TOM PARADISO                             Date: 01/02/94  9:53a
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Greetings Tom !

In a message to Tom Miller <12/31/93> Tom Paradiso wrote:

TP|  -=> Quoting Tom Miller to Tom Paradiso <=-

TP| Hello Tom,

TP| Sorry guy but I'm looking for the catalog also, you need to send it to
TP| Joe Rinehart.
TP|  From Tom Of Hawk's Nest of Panama Canal Zone

Ooooops, sorry.

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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 9568
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/01/94  2:08p
Subj: quicken in CD-Rom                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Greetings All !

Found this article on new products and thought everyone might be
interested:

______________________________________________________________________

QUICKEN FOR WINDOWS CD-ROM DELUXE EDITION

Intuit Inc. has introduced Quicken for Windows CD-ROM Deluxe Edition, the
first CD-ROM-based personal finance software program.

It incorporates the newly introduced Quicken 3 for Windows and Quicken
Companion, 2 complete with online documentation, The Wall Street Journal
Video Guide to Money and Markets, The Wall Street Journal Personal Finance
Library, over 20 U.S. government publications on personal finance and more.

The program capitalizes on the power of CD-ROM technology, enabling users to
manage finances and make educated financial decisions in a single application.

Using full-motion video, the product includes interactive worksheets from
Vertigo Development Group featuring information from The Wall Street Journal.

Retail price is $69.95.

For information, contact Intuit Inc. at 155 Linfield Ave., P.O. Box 3014,
Menlo Park, CA 94026-3014

800/624-8742 (toll-free telephone); 415/322-0573 (telephone).

_____________________________________________________________________


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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 9569
  To: JOYCE ZWEEDYK                            Date: 01/01/94 12:50p
Subj: Carmen san diego                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

20.00 plus shipping is more than I was even asking...I was including the
shipping. Anyway 20.00 is fine (including shipping)


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From: CHAD HJELLE                            Number: 9570
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 12/30/93  7:02p
Subj: Re: Cd-drives Plus                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Could you please either send me a copy of your catalog or upload one to
my BBS?  If you want to upload it, my BBS is: The Hacker Central BBS
(612) 796-2965 (Use Name Guest, Password Guest, and you can upload from
the main menu).  Or, if you want to mail it to me, my address is:

Chad Hjelle
9370 71st ST NE
Spicer, MN 56288-9642

Thanks.

... For Sale: Rottweiler. Eats anything, fond of children....
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From: CHAD HJELLE                            Number: 9571
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 12/30/93  7:05p
Subj: CD-ROM Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you still have that catalog, could you please send a copy to:

CHAD HJELLE
9370 71ST ST NE
SPICER MN  56288-9642

Thanks.

... For Sale: Rottweiler. Eats anything, fond of children....
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From: CHAD HJELLE                            Number: 9572
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 12/30/93  7:09p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM's for Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MB> If you are in the market for CD-ROM drives or disks, please
 MB> FREQ our current list as follows:
 MB> Great deals on Hitachi CDR-3600 units are waiting!

 MB> CD-ROM Drives     CD4SALE.ZIP or MAGIC name of DRIVES
 MB> CD-ROM Disks      CD_LIST.ZIP or MAGIC name of DISKS

Could I please get copies of both of these files?  I can't FREQ files on
the BBS that I use for Echomail, so could you please upload them to my
BBS.  The Hacker Central BBS (612) 796-2965. Login: Name Guest, Password
Guest.  Upload from the main menu.  Thanks.

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From: JON CHRISMAN                           Number: 9573
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 12/31/93 10:23a
Subj: Night owl 10.1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of (29 Dec 93  23:00:00), Lois Frankel wrote to Dave Reed:
 
LF> On 12-25-93  16:39 Dave Reed said something about Night owl 10.1, 
LF> to which I reply: 
->>> N I G H T  O W L  10.1 
SB>> What are the differences between 10 and 10.1? 
DR>> Viruses. 
LF> The added more?
No, they supposedly took out the 2 files that had the viruses in them.

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From: SLEDGEHAMMER                           Number: 9574
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 01/01/94 10:00p
Subj: Bodacious Beauties - NewODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New Re  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Re: Bodacious Beauties - NewODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New Re
 
> unreasonable and ridiculous.  The low/no cost access BBSs througout
> the country will have to make a decision whether or not to put
> Bodacious Beauties on line.  The "generally speaking" reference in
> my post qualifies that not all BBSs charge $50.00 and more, but many
> do!  By the way, I know of no BBS that gives ADULT access for free.
> Perhaps you could post a list of the BBSs you are talking about, as
> I have a lot of friends who would like to download adult images for
> free.

Im sorry but i have to step in here. 

I RUN A FREE ADULT BBS HERE!!!!!!!!!

yes its free, with upload/download ratios that are fairly loose.

so watch it when you make generalities about stuff.
its people like you that cause us free boards to have to start chargeing
and our hobbie starts to become some sort of wierd business that we never
wanted to be in.

<soapbox mode off>
John Boudreaux
Sysop, The Experimental BBS

The Experimental BBS                                           (904)375-7555
Not just the same old Shareware stuff!                   Sysop: SledgeHammer
Real-time Programming Support                            User Requested Subs 

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From: CARL MONTANTE                          Number: 9575
  To: CHARLIE JARMAN                           Date: 01/03/94  3:13p
Subj: looking for Sony 535's                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                                      [ Quoted from Charlie Jarman ]    
        This is accomplished using the optional OPA-X10 kit available   
        from Sony (can be pruchased through me, too).                   
                                                       [ End Quote ]    

Charlie, 
        What is the price of the Upgrade kit for the Sony 535 Drive?

 
                                  Carl
 
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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9576
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/03/94  6:24a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9577
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/03/94  6:24a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
                        ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $110.00 30day warrantee
Refurbished  NEC Model 36       CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee

                    ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee

                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
14.4 Power supply..................$10.00 ea.
external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
Shipping (drives)$25.00 for up to 2 drives,$40.00 for 3-4 drives.

                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
offering all
refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit, to be
shipped
upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30 days for
receipt of
your refurbished drive.

                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariant.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: RAY MATTHEWS                           Number: 9578
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/03/94  5:27p
Subj: Flame? Anybody seen it??                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    Just wondering if anybody has tried to order this new Flame disc, and if
so, have they actually received it. I called in a COD order about 3 weeks ago,
and never heard anything since.

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From: JOHN GRANT                             Number: 9579
  To: JAMES CLEVENGER                          Date: 01/02/94  8:38p
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD-ROMs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JC> They've sold 1/2 a million CD32s already?  That is pretty impressive.
 JC> I haven't been able to find those sales figures 
 JC> (not accurate ones anyway).  What is your source?  
 JC> By the way, it's amazing how well the CD32 is 
 JC> selling already, considering that the really good 
 JC> titles aren't even coming out until the January 
 JC> Consumer Electronics Show (CES).
 
Hi!  Well, I have a friend in France that gets the figures for me (he is in
tight with a dealer over there who is in tight with a distributor!), so take it
as you will, but he HAS sent me VERY accurate info about a NUMBER of
things....5000 info, 4000 info last year, etc...) Not really surprising how
well the CD-32 is sellling if you follow the market. All the other CD makers
are in for their first time.....this is C= second round! They LEARNED and USED
what they learned the first go around!  PINBALL FANTASIES is supposed to be the
best of the CURRENT bunch right now, and yes, the REALLY good ones will be
coming out when the CD-32 is debuted....according to what I hear! :)
 
 JC> stock will go to over $14 by December 1994 as some 
 JC> have predicted?  Maybe that's a way to make a lot 
 JC> of money, to buy it at $3 1/2 now and sell at $14.  
 JC> I could buy a couple of new computers with that 
 JC> kind of growth.
 
If expectations are for that right now, I believe they will go LOTS higher than
that as the machine gets selling here! Guess I should go get some of that
stock.....I have a LOT of bills that could be payed-off at that return!! Thanks
for that info...I had not heard that! 
 
 JC> the 3D0 by Panasonic.  The driving game looked 
 JC> really fabulous, but the price of the basic unit, 
 JC> at $700, is just bizarre.  A friend of mine saw the 
 JC> price too and almost threw up.
 
Well, considering that UTILITIES UNLIMITED is FEVERISHLY working on a 3D0
emulator for the CD-32 (and it is supposed to be ready by the debut!), I would
NOT rush into getting a 3D0!!! A CD-32 with that emulator would cost about $100
less than the 3D0, and you have access to BOTH worlds that way!! BTW  I have
already heard that Panasonic is TRYING to get the public to believe that THEIR
3D0 is going to be the next generation of set-top boxes for the new generation
of cable-oriented interactivity. It is WRONG!! While 3D0 (the company!), has a
unit for testing, I have been informed that PANASONICs 3D0 is NOT built for
this connection!!! Also, CD-32 chip-sets are finding their  way into set-top
boxes made by HP!!! HP has a contract for 100,000 units, and the CD-32 chip-set
has ALREADY been liscensed for this use!!! C=  COULD  become a house-hold
word!!! The CD-32 is to have a STREET price of around $350 for starts, and drop
to around the $300 mark within a few months!! The only trouble I can see is if
C= can make ENOUGH of them fast enough for the demand I see rising like a tidal
wave....and this for a machine that has not gone to market in the US yet!!!
What a ride!!!!! Take care, and TTYL!

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From: JOHN GRANT                             Number: 9580
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/02/94  8:54p
Subj: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hi!  Do you happen to have a listing of AMIGA CD-ROMS?  I would be interested
in it!! Take care, and TTYL!

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From: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                       Number: 9581
  To: HERB ZWIRN                               Date: 01/02/94 11:41p
Subj: Re: Garage Sale (or Trade)...           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HZ>  GK>NEC SCSI External CD Rom with Dos drivers
HZ> GK>SONY/BSR External CD Rom IDE with card and DOS Drivers
HZ> GK>Toshiba External SCSI CD Rom
HZ> 

NEC CDR 36
SONY 6201
TOSHIBA 3201

Currently open for offers.

GK

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From: RICH GURELL                            Number: 9582
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 01/03/94  4:38p
Subj: Cream of the Crop II                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I received the "Cream of the Crop II" CD and currently have it online.

Good job...:-{ ) 


Thanks.


 <-= Uncle Rich =->

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From: JOHN PARKER                            Number: 9583
  To: RICK HAWKINS                             Date: 01/03/94  3:25p
Subj: CDROM Systems                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You might want to watch out for any old, slow cd-rom changer systems.
Any comm software that uses packet timing for controlling any file
transfers will have trouble with batch transfers. For example, I am
using Crosstalk for Windows, which uses this sort of timeing, and any
time I try to download multiple files from various systems which use
some of these changers, I get a timeout error, ruining the whole
transfer. Just a word of caution as slow can be a very big problem.
              John

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From: JOHN FOSTER                            Number: 9584
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/30/93  8:30a
Subj: Cd'S And Sftware For Sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have for sale the following items:
1 CD-ROM version of US ATLAS V1.5  **********************$15
1 CD-ROM Chestnut Windoware *****************************$13 (offer pending)
Easy Working Desktop Publisher **************************$20
The Newsroom Pro Desktop Publisher **********************$5
Sound Blaster Midi Kit (never been used or registered) **MAKE OFFER!

The above are all in original boxes and contain full documentation. Buyer
pays shipping. I am pretty firm on these prices. I can be reached on this
network or you can call me at 317-286-1582 after 8:30 P.M. E.S.T. any
day of the week. I am looking for a CD-Rom of black and white clipart
in the PCX format. I would be willing to work out a trade for this. I
already have Cipart Goliath so I wouldn't be interested in this item.
John Foster
1303 Wildwood Lane
Muncie, IN 47304

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From: WESLEY CHEW                            Number: 9585
  To: DAVID RYDER                              Date: 01/03/94  1:34a
Subj: *! MITSUMI 2X CD $219                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 > RE: Message entered on Dec 29,93 by JASON KOLLER to JEFF WEISS
 > *********************************************************************
 > **
 > -> Mitsumi FX001D double-speed internal CD-ROM  ---  $219
 > 

Best Buy in Oklahoma City is selling the Mitsumi FX001D for $197 bucks
with a 16bit controller. But I'm not sure if it comes with OS2 Drivers.
It sure is a good deal for a double speed drive!
                                 
Wes
OKC,OK

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From: STEVE KELLY                            Number: 9586
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/03/94  4:31p
Subj: Interface Kit 4 $ale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following for sale:

  SCSI CD-Rom Interface Kit
  Model: CD XT003

This will connect both internal and external SCSI devices from one host
expansion card. Allows up to 8 SCSI devices. Will work on any computer with
an IBM XT/AT Bus

I will take $50 OBO (Sticker price of $119.00).

You can reply here or to the Origin below by netmail of BBS.

 -= Steve =-

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From: JD BROWN                               Number: 9587
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/03/94 11:45p
Subj: Prices                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CIS: 72027,2432  Internet: JD_Brown@f3622.n1.z1.fidonet.org   IBM LINK @
DEV0580



 Howdy Dealers.

 Need prices on the following.


 Mega A/V 1
 Mega Games 1
 Mega Windows 2
 Mega Win/OS2
 Mega CD-ROM 1, 2, and 3
 SDN 1 Plus
 Shareware 1 2 The Max
 And the 2 the Max 6 Disk Set.


 Thanks




___
 X KWQ/2 1.2a X First, you put the lawyers up against a wall. . .

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From: MIKE STEFFEN                           Number: 9588
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/03/94  6:11a
Subj: Adult CD trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Adult CD Discs for trade
BY: Randy Neuner (1:309/71)

>I have the following adult cd discs for trade:
>
>FAO 3
>Physical Therapy
>Adult Reference Library

I've got Storm II or the new APL disc.
Will trade either for Physical Therapy.
Mike Steffen @ 1-319-234-0938 days CST

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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 9589
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 01/03/94 10:21a
Subj: Compatibility                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Chris,
We are currently testing to see if the newer models (3600 etc) can be
added to the end of the chain of 3500's and 1503S units. I had a
customer who could not get this to work before, so I would like to
actually run the test on the bench ourselves to make sure.
Please call me voice at 517-892-5518 for the pricing. The 1503S units
are still in demand by alot of my customers, so let me know!

Happy New Year to you and yours!
Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE "Your CD-ROM drive headquarters!"
Voice   (517)892-5518
FAX     (517)892-5965
BBS     (517)892-5042
Fidonet   1:239/675
Internet  bedtelyo@cris.com


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From: DAVID STOREY                           Number: 9590
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/03/94  7:30p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Jan 02 06:40>, Joe Rinehart of 1:157/479 writes:

 JR> prices, get our NEW catalog... If you'd like a printed copy, 
 JR> send your mailing information to us. We offer CDLIST file 

     Sure, flog one over my way..

160 Blanche Ave
Winnipeg Manitoba
R3N 0L5

  Thanks

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From: RON KOWALSKI                           Number: 9591
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/01/94 10:28p
Subj: !FREE CD CATALOG!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Joe, I'd be interestedin looking over your CD price list. Please send to: 
        Ron Kowalski
        2624 Coveview Dr.
        Toledo, Oh 43611-1106
        Do you take credit card orders?    M/C, Visa, Discover ???

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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 9592
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 12/20/93 11:33a
Subj: Re: YOU MORON!!!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks.... just wanted to let you know, the new ferrari is running great!

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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 9593
  To: JERRY JOHNSON                            Date: 12/20/93 11:35a
Subj: Re: Adult cd - trade                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You might want to shy away from asain ladies... I have (had) a copy of that, 
It should be called asain animals.  There were about 4 good lookers in the 
whole damn cd!

thats my 2 cents anyway! :)

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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 9594
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/20/93 11:44a
Subj: Re: Amatuer Models                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can you tell us more about this CD?? whats on it?

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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 9595
  To: VIC HLUSHAK                              Date: 12/20/93 11:52a
Subj: Re: BB1                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I hear that is a good one! how much you looking to get? I dont have much to 
trade you though...

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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 9596
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/20/93 11:54a
Subj: help!                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Some time ago I went to a show in Boston.  I saw a 10 or 12 cd set on our 
galaxy.... a whole bunch of .gifs of the planets etc from voyager and others. 
It was a tremendous collection.  I didnt have the $100 at the time.  Now I 
cant seem to find it! does anyone have a lead on it??!?!?! Thanks!

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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 9597
  To: RICK SHELTON                             Date: 12/22/93  9:42a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol 1 For Sale!         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

how is $25 shipped???

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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 9598
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/22/93  9:45a
Subj: cd-amateur                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ill take it for $33... please cal (203) 771-7081 Thanks!

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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 9599
  To: TIM SHEEHAN                              Date: 12/27/93  9:36a
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD wanted                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Is this the Tim sheehan from LSM... '83????

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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 9600
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 01/02/94  2:48p
Subj: Montgomery vs Noga                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <01-01-94 11:53> Lee Noga wrote:

LN>> We have asked you more then once to remove this from this forum and
LN>> the public eye. It would be in your best interest to do so.

Ms. Noga, it seems to me that you to have a real problem comprehending,
remembering and expressing FACTS.

My first and second posts in this echo were announcing our new disc
"Southern Beauties". My third post was thanking Bob Jackson for his
kind review of the disc.  My fourth post was regarding Busty Babes-
Vol II, which contained statistics about the disc, which nobody
(including you) has disputed the facts contained therein.

Other than posts announcing our newest disc "Bodacious Beauties"
and answering Mr. Helton, Mr. Walker and others regarding the licensing
fee for "Bodacious Beauties", my posts have included:

1.)     To ALL <12-14-93 16:46> in which I *RESPONDED* to what YOU
        wrote to (a) David Doyle, (b) Thomas Wagner, and (c) Dan Wade.

        (a) to David Doyle, *YOU BROUGHT UP* lawsuits, antics,
        and who allegedly initiated them and who allegedly boasted
        and bragged about them.

        (b) to Thomas Wagner, you go on to say how you did
        not run and hide after reading messages that broke your
        thick skin.

        (c) to Dan Wade, you describe me as malicious and hateful.

2.)     To Dan Wade <12-14-93 16:51> in which I *RESPOND* to his
        statements in a very direct and comprehensive way. His
        message remained on topic (in my opinion) for this echo's
        purpose.

3.)     To Lee Noga <12-17-93 14:02> in which I *RESPONDED* to YOUR
        stating (a) you had proof of my alleged boasting and
        bragging about lawsuits.  And a suggestion that *I* take
        this topic out of the public eye.  AS I RESPONDED TO *YOU*
        then, I DID NOT PUT IT THERE- *YOU* DID!  I ended by stating
        "I DO NOT CONSIDER THE CD-ROM FOR SALE ECHO THE PLACE FOR
        STORIES OR THINGS OTHER THAN ANNOUNCING CD-ROM PRODUCTS FOR
                                     ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^
        SALE OR WHAT ONE MAY FEEL ABOUT A CD-ROM PRODUCT.
        ^^^^ ^^ ^^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^ ^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^

4.)     To Lee Noga <12-17-93 14:21> in which I *RESPONDED* to YOU
        talking (a) about my selling you a 1.2 gig Micropolis hard
        drive, (b) about a lawsuit for a copyright infringement
        case initiated by Bob Montgomery and my activities as VPICs
        licensing agent, and congratulating us on our new disc
        "Bodacious Beauties".  I then again ended stating "I DO NOT
        CONSIDER THE CD-ROM FOR SALE ECHO THE PLACE FOR STORIES OR
        THINGS OTHER THAN ANNOUNCING CD-ROM PRODUCTS FOR SALE OR
                          ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^ ^^
        WHAT ONE MAY FEEL ABOUT A CD-ROM PRODUCT.
        ^^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^ ^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^

5.)     To Lee Noga <12-30-93 16:47> I then *RESPONDED* to YOUR
        post of <12-19-93 14:10> in which *YOU CONTINUE DISCUSSING*
        (1) VPIC and the copyright holder being Mr. Montgomery and
        your BELIEF in what my involvement MAY be; (2) what you
        would like the people that read this echo to believe
        regarding the judge's rulings on the case, (3) the fact
        that you popped the cork on a bottle of champagne to
        celebrate your ALLEGED victory in the case, and (4) on
        whether or not my business partner has been added to the
        lawsuit.

My *RESPONSE* was:

Mr. Montgomery will be posting a message to ALL discussing this
topic and what you have to say in this post.  Please refer to that!

Unless you have a correction to my post of October 31, 1993, I
neither have the time nor the inclination to continue interfacing
with you on this subject.



Since, all *I* ever did was to *RESPOND* to *YOU* please EXPLAIN TO ME
                                                         ^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^
*HOW* IT IS THAT ****I**** AM THE ONE WHO should remove *THIS TOPIC*
from this public forum; except by ignoring *YOUR PUTTING IT THERE*
and letting *YOUR* misstatements mislead the readers of this echo.

If you possess a copy of *ANY* post in which *I BRING UP ANYTHING*
to do with this subject, please post it!  One does not exist!
Instead you will find that I have only *RESPONDED TO YOUR POSTS*
ON THIS SUBJECT !!!!
^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^^^

I AM PLEASED that after Mr. Montgomery posted the TRUTH, THE WHOLE
                                                  ^^^^^  ^^^ ^^^^^
TRUTH and NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH; that you finally agree with me,
^^^^^     ^^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^
THAT:

        "I DO NOT CONSIDER THE CD-ROM FOR SALE ECHO THE PLACE FOR
        STORIES OR THINGS OTHER THAN ANNOUNCING CD-ROM PRODUCTS FOR
                                     ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^
        SALE OR WHAT ONE MAY FEEL ABOUT A CD-ROM PRODUCT."
        ^^^^ ^^ ^^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^ ^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^  
 
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From: SHELDON KOEHLER                        Number: 9601
  To: TOM MILLER                               Date: 01/01/94  5:27p
Subj: TEST MESSAGE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TM>Is this uplink working?
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No.<g>

It made it to Port Angeles, Wa with no trouble.

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From: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                       Number: 9602
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 01/03/94  9:47a
Subj: Re: Garage Sale (or Trade)...           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KP> GK> NE2000 SMC clone LAN cards
KP> GK> Network cables of various lengths, T connectors, and terminators
KP> GK> Okidata u92 9 pin printer
KP> 

Thanks for the interest, Kevin.

Currently these items are open for offers.

GK

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 9603
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 01/05/94  8:17a
Subj: Montgomery vs Noga                      Refer: 13070
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->         "I DO NOT CONSIDER THE CD-ROM FOR SALE ECHO THE PLACE FOR
->         STORIES OR THINGS OTHER THAN ANNOUNCING CD-ROM PRODUCTS FOR
->                                      ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^
->         SALE OR WHAT ONE MAY FEEL ABOUT A CD-ROM PRODUCT."

Strike two.  You just keep on and on and on and on... Your ravings are
getting quite tiresome and I'm getting fed up with your philosophies on
how I should moderate this echo.  This is your last chance to get back
on topic and to cease using this echo for any purpose other than the
discussion of CD ROM products for sale.  Got it?

READ MY LIPS:  EOT.

tim
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 9604
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/27/93  7:08p
Subj: BBS Limitation?                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF>A single layer of directories instead of their usual multiple layers saves 
  >sysops hours of set up time.  I just installed the Aminet Amiga  shareware 
  >CD-Rom on my BBS.  There were 136 different directories, some  of which 
  >contained only one file.  I had to make 3 complete menu  screens just to 
  >display all the file areas. 
 
BF>Sounds like a major limitation of your BBS software.... 
 
Brice, you don't know what you are talking about.  My BBS software has 
absolutely nothing to do with how many directories can fit on one menu. 
I am not talking about regular file areas that are listed and scrolled 
one after another.  I am talking about a door program that has a menu 
of file areas to be listed on demand.  136 different file areas is 
definitely excessive, especially when some of them only have one file 
in them. 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 9605
  To: TOM MILLER                               Date: 12/27/93  7:17p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM SHAREWARE                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >> Hi Jeff.  We have loads of them.  Give us a call or post your 
  >> address and we'd be glad to send you a catalog.  Shareware is 
  >> our specialty. 
 
TM>I agree!  Inspite of what I see, most in this echo, there are a LOT of 
  >Shareware cd-rom disks out there.  I have 14 of them.... 
 
TM>* Origin: Lawrence OnLine/TBBS, 4 lines and 14 Cd-Rom Disks 
 
It looks like you have a pretty large BBS, Tom.  Do you run any 
specialty discs, or mostly general purpose discs?  I've been running 
a couple general purpose discs along with one Windows, graphics, games, 
and technical CD-Rom.  It seems to be less duplication that way, and the 
users seem to be pretty happy with it.  I've got 6 CD's and one line.  I 
hope to add the second line pretty soon. 
 
                                                                Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 9606
  To: MARTIN TORRES                            Date: 12/27/93  7:31p
Subj: Re: Big Sky                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MT>AG> JL> Big Sky Rom II - Top Drawer (Pre-Orders) $19.00 
 
MT>Ok Put me down for one.Just post details on how to order and when will 
  >it be released? 
 
I'll get you one out of the initial shipment, Martin.  Just give us a 
call or log onto our BBS and place your order via Questionnaire D or E. 
We expect them to be released any day now.  I will be posting a message 
when it is available. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Orders, File Lists, Catalogs 
 
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From: AMY MOODY                              Number: 9607
  To: HERBERT SMITH                            Date: 01/03/94  8:22a
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Herbert,

-> Interested in Secret Weapons and Carmen Deluxe.  Could I interest you
-> in a trade?  One ISOTEL surge protector, four outlets plus one
-> for your telephone/modem.  My  Isotel for your two CDs plus $8
-> to cover value plus shipping.?

Sorry no need for a surge protector...have a UPS.  I could however use another
one if you happen to have one of those laying around somewhere.

SEEYA!
  Amy

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From: JIM HILGEFORD                          Number: 9608
  To: MARTIN YEE                               Date: 01/01/94  7:30a
Subj: Cd disks for sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (27 Dec 93) Martin Yee wrote to Jim Hilgeford...

 MY> JH> AK> Arthur's Teacher Trouble
 MY> JH>        I would be interested in Arthur's Teacher Trouble for my
 MY> Grand Hi Jim,
 MY>    If your deal does not go through with A.K., I have Arthur's Teacher
 MY>    Trouble MPC CDROM for sale. My copy was bundled with
 MY>    hardware, so there is no big box or book with it, just CDROM & case
 MY>    - this might be the same with A.K. version. I'll let it go for
 MY> $23.00
 MY>    shipped. I also have Macmillan Dictionary for Children MPC CDROM -
 MY>    same price & no box too.
 MY>    If you want either one leave me a note to hold it for you.
 MY> 
 MY> Martin Yee
 MY> 538 Baker Street
 MY> San Francisco, CA  94117
 MY> ph: 415 923-9893 (9am-12pm or 7pm-9pm PST)
 MY> ===
 MY>  * OLX 2.1 * MSI HQ! BBS - Home of Off-Line Xpress 805-395-0650
        Have already sent check . If for some reason it does not work out. 
        I will keep your address and get back to you. Later JIm

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From: JIM HILGEFORD                          Number: 9609
  To: AL KAISER                                Date: 01/01/94  7:33a
Subj: CD Disks for Sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (26 Dec 93) Al Kaiser wrote to Jim Hilgeford...

 AK>  On 12-22-93 Jim Hilgeford wrote to Al Kaiser... 
 AK>  
 AK>  JH>         I would be interested in Arthur's Teacher Trouble for my
 AK> Grand
 AK> 
 AK>  JH>         Daughter. $25.00 and you pay UPS. Call 602-544-9657 or
 AK> get me 
 AK>  JH>         your address so I can send you a certified check. 
 AK>  JH>         Thanks  JIm 
 AK>  
 AK> Send your check to: 
 AK>  
 AK> Al Kaiser 
 AK> 194 Glen Hills Rd. 
 AK> Meriden, CT 06451-3832 
 AK>  
 AK> Make sure you include your complete address and that it is not at a PO
 AK> 
        Check is in the mail. Will most probably not go out till jan. 2 94.
        Looking forward to getting disk and book, for my Grand Daughter.
        Later JIm

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 9610
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/02/94  7:02a
Subj: Jurassic Park CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike , do you have in the NEW Jurassic Park CD game for IBM?
It IS out and I,m not confusing it with the screen saver that comes in an
almost identical box. If you receive these in stock please post a message. I
want one. They have them at Software ETC.. here in town, but it,s 64.00  
eeeek... I know you can do better price wise!

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 9611
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 12/30/93 11:03p
Subj: Carmen San Diego for sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

OK Carmen San Diego for 15.00
can you send a check? or how do you want to do it?
perhaps COD, but I cannot send CD first.

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From: PAUL HURST                             Number: 9612
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 01/02/94  3:09p
Subj: Hot Pix #3                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Could you send me Hot Pix #3?

My Address is;

Paul Hurst
RR#2
Lacombe, Alberta
T0C 1S0

Like before Please Bill Me..

Thanx


Paul
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From: JASON KOLLER                           Number: 9613
  To: DAVID RYDER                              Date: 01/03/94  3:59p
Subj: *! Mitsumi 2X CD $219                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Mitsumi FX001D double-speed internal CD-ROM  ---  $219
->
-> JK> Hi Jeff..I am very interested in that drive.  Does it have OS/2
-> JK> compatibility?  I know the older ones do, but does this one?  Are
-> you JK> SURE?  :)  Thanks!
->
->   Jason, with the IBM drivers, it does have OS/2 compatability.  I
->   use one with OS/2.

Great!  I will be sure to keep you in mind!  Thanks!

@X09-Jason@X0F

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From: CHENYU CHIANG                          Number: 9614
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 01/03/94  9:09p
Subj: Cdrom discs for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PRODUCT ORDERS ONLY*NO Questions/No
DC>* PCJ Computing- December 24,1993 * Catalogs/No Order Stats-800-547-7817
DC>* We try to meet all competition. * Visa/MC/Amx/Disc/Dinrs/Cart/Chek/COD
DC>* No surcharges. Full catalog with* For QUESTIONS/CATALOGS/ORDER STATUS
DC>* descriptions on BBS-PCJCDS.ZIP. *  (No Exceptions) (9-7) 615-339-0235
DC>* No CODs on drives.  Most titles *   BBS HST/14400  615-4782890/4791047
DC>* in stock. Shipping not included *   Compuserve          - 71754,3514
DC>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *  Internet-Doug.Carpenter@Junction.Cld9.Com

Could you send me a copy of your printed catalog to: Chenyu Chiang 2501 Abuela
Pl. Hacienda Hts, CA 91745

Thank you.
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From: GREG STERLING@1:2613/119@FIDO          Number: 9615
  To: TAB TRESS@FN                             Date: 01/03/94  7:35p
Subj: Busty Babes Volume I  Version I         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Tab,
How about trading ANIMATED FANTASIES for your BB 1 ?  Let me know.
Greg

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From: LARRY ADAMSON@1:226/590                Number: 9616
  To: DAVID VANGELDER@FN                       Date: 01/03/94  7:36p
Subj: B. B CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

David, for your info there are two BBS's in Denver with Adult sections that
are free. Adult access requires only proof of age. I started my BBS because so
many boards were requiring access fees, registration fees, upload/download
ratios, etc.  My board is free and I won't start charging because of you and
your photographers greed. I have one cd reader online and soon to be 4. Rest
assured, your B.B. will not be added to my collection.
 
Happy New Year To YOU!


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From: DOUG CARPENTER@1:362/119               Number: 9617
  To: ALL@FN                                   Date: 01/03/94  7:37p
Subj: cdrom discs for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Aminet Amiga...Near 600 meg from Aminet Interet Archives.....**..14.50
AMSoft (Ham)...Thousands of ham shareware/ham related programs...26.95
A.S.P...Best of ASP Association Authors Shareware................21.95
Big Sky 1-for SYSOPS,7M+files,660+mb,easiest/fast to install.**..26.00
Big Sky 2-Top Drawer - coming early '94 - (Pre-Orders).......**..19.00
C Users Group Library...User supported source code-dos,unix,cpm..27.95
CD Powerbox #1..6,858 files-50 categories-all '91-'92 files..**..18.95
CD Powerbox #2...............................................**..19.95
EMS Professional Sharew Libraries..specialized sharew collection.23.95
Garbo MSDOS/MAC Shareware...About 250mb DOS/125mb MAC-made 5/92..14.50
Giga Games...3000+ MSDOS/Windows games/educational programs..**..18.95
Gigabyte Gold...13,111 files-99 categories-all '89-'91 files.**..14.95
Ham Radio...Enormous collection of Ham & SWL programs & data.....12.95
Libris Britannica...600+mb British shareware-tech/scientific.**..29.95
Lion Share...4208 files-400+ meg-50% '91/50% '92 shareware...**..21.95
Monster Disc...2 CDS-all 1992 shareware with book............**..37.95
Monster Media '93 #2..Sequel to Monster-400+mb-all '93-book..**..25.95
Nightowl 6.0 or 7.0...600+mb-'91/92-6M+ files-50+ categories.**..14.95
Nightowl 8.0..........600+mb-'92/93-5M+ files-50+ categories.**..19.95
Nightowl 10.0.........600+mb-all '93-5M+files-70% after 6/93.**..28.95
Nightowl Bus. Applications...Best of Nightowl business shareware.18.95
Nightowl Games...............................................**..18.95
Nightowl Graphics...All gifs.................................**..24.95
Nightowl Windows.............................................**..28.95
OS/2 Archives-Hobbes..3000 files-600+mb-shareware/freeware-10/93.14.50
OS2/Box...From the makers of CD Power/Winbox-3)0+ mb.........**..23.95
PC Sig H & B Collection...Best of PC Sig for home & business.....16.95
PC Sig World of Games............................................18.95
PC Sig World of Windows..........................................18.95
PC Sig #13.......................................................24.50
PC Sig #10...Great collection of shareware-'92...............**..16.95
PC Sig #11...Professional collection-3700+-'92-'93...........**..17.95
Phoenix #3...600+ mb shareware from 1992.....................**..11.95
Phoenix #4 (New)...Sequel to Phoenix 3-shareware.............**..16.95
Pier 3...660 meg-all 1993-3rd quarter '93 shareware..........**..26.95
Powerpak Gold...Released in 1992-Best of best-7354 files.....**..10.95
Shareware Extravaganza..(4 cds)-BBS collection-25M+ files....**..36.95
Shareware 1993 v1...5,000+ files-early '93-620mb.............**..19.95
Shareware 1993 v2...6,000 files-all '93, no dupes with v1....**..23.95
Shareware Explorer..(4 cds)-5 star series-26,000 files.......**..39.95
Shareware Games..6M+ files-4/93-sports,arcade,casino,solutions...21.95
Shareware Heaven.................................................14.95
Shareware On-Line #2...'93 release...........................**..27.95
ShareWare Overload...550mb-6100 files-wide variety of programs...11.95
Shareware Studio #1..........................................**..19.95
Shareware Studio #2...637mb,6,659 files,all '92-'93 files....**..19.95
Shareware Studio #3..........................................**..19.95
Shareware Tiger...600+mb of shareware-1991...................**..19.95
Simtel 2...from internet site-9,000+ files,viewer,...........**..13.95
So Much Shareware..............#1 - 15.95...#2 - 19.95...#3..**..21.95
Software Jukebox...all new 1993 shareware programs...........**..23.95
Software Vault #2...8000 programs,most '93,released 5/93.....**..15.95
Software Vault #3-Gold...590+mb,all '93,no dupes with 1 or 2.**..19.95
Software Vault Games.............................................19.95
Software Vault Windows...........................................19.95
Sound Sensations..Sound effects,clips,music,convertors,voices....12.95
Source Code..600+mb,15M+ files,usenet/simtel/msdos,unix/dos-3/92.19.95
Tech Arsenal..C,ASM,Pascal,VBasic,LAN,dBase,Clipper,drivers,OS/2.21.95
Technotools...Programmer shareware tools,many languages..........12.95
Top 2000 Shareware..Family/kids oriented,menu-driven.............19.95
Win Platinum...Great collection of Windows programs..............23.95
Winbox (CD)...nice collection of windows shareware...........**..24.95
Window Master....................................................19.45
Windoware..Shareware for Win 3.1+,large variety of applications..11.95
Windows 1993...7,347 files,600+mb,'90-'92 files,many areas...**..23.95
Windows - CICA...from internet ftp site-hundreds of meg-4/93.**..14.50
X11R5/GNU Cdrom..X11R5 window system source,GNU source,Sparc.....24.95
20th Century Video Almanac.......................................28.95
7th Guest...Interactive drama in a real virtual environment......48.95
999+ WAV Files..Over 1,500 Wav files with TidalWav Sound Player..19.95
1001 Utilities...................................................12.95
9000 Sounds..Sblaster,midi,wav,adlib,pc speaker,cakewalk,mod.**..22.95
Adventures in Heaven...Games-challenge,explore,capture,monsters..14.95
Adventures of Willy Beamish...Comedy/adventure game w/Wild Willy.19.95
Aesops Fables...54 fables-music/narration/illustrations..........26.95
Aircraft Encyclopedia...MPC database of world military aircraft..35.95
Amanda Stories...Adventures of Indigo the cat & faithful camel...44.95
American Bus. Fone Book '92.......................................9.95
American Bus. Fone Book '93-4....................................18.95
American Heritage Illustrated Encycl. Dictionary..80M words/pics.36.95
American Vista Atlas..Pics/maps/music/audio/history/wildlife/MPC.29.95
Anecdotes........................................................26.95
Animals SD Zoo DOS-18.95...Tour 200+ animals-300+ exhibits...MPC-20.50
Arthur's Teacher Trouble..Multimedia,surprises on every page.....26.95
Audio collection,MM..effects,note play,music mentor,band in box..26.95
Audobon Birds...1840 edition-500+ images-full text-bird calls....19.95
Audobon Mammals...Full color pallette-full text-CD quality sound.19.95
B-17 Silent Service...Select your crew and fly WWII sorties......39.95
Barney Bear Goes to School...Interactive-teaches math/reading....21.95
Barney Bear Goes to Space...Barney tours space in the shuttle....21.95
Barron's Book Notes...101 complete unabridged book notes-more....36.95
BattleChess MPC...Multimedia animated chess game-audio/music.....21.95
Beauty & the Beast...WIN 3,multimedia storybook,interactive......24.95
Best of Micropose..Pirates,RR Tycoon,Rex Nebular,Command HQ......24.95
Best Businesses..5800 best,tel,fax,address,zip,# emp,CEO-search..28.95
Better Homes & Garden Cookbook...................................52.95
Beyond the Wall of Stars..Futuristic adventure game beyond.......19.95
Bible Lands, Bible Stories..passport to exploring Holy Land......43.95
Bible Library...9 Bibles, 20 references, 27 concordances.........24.95

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From: DOUG CARPENTER@1:362/119               Number: 9618
  To: ALL@FN                                   Date: 01/03/94  7:38p
Subj: cdrom discs for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Star Wars Chess MPC...play chess with the Star Wars characters...39.95
Stellar 7...Action arcade game,20 different enemies,7 worlds.....19.00
StickyBear Preschool.............................................36.95
Storybook Weaver.................................................39.95
StoryTime #1..Goldilocks,Red Hen,3 Bears-teaches read/spell......24.95
Storytime #2..Boy Cried Wolf,Milkmaid & Pail,Belling the Cat.....24.95
Storytime #3..Hare & Tortoise,Lion & Mouse,City/Country Mouse....38.95
Straight from Heaven..KJV,AV,ASV,Greek,Hebrew,Koran,Span,German..17.95
Street Atlas USA (v2-WIN)...Complete US streetlevel atlas........84.95
Strike Commander.................................................58.95
Super Clipart....................................................15.95
Super Fonts...collection of Adobe and Truetype fonts.............15.95
Super Games for WIN v1 or v2.....................................15.95
Super Programmer...Source code for C,paradox,dBase,Foxpro,etc....19.95
Swimwear & More (SVGA)...........................................28.95
Tempra Photo CD Software...similiar to Kodak.....................18.95
The Grammy Awards...Entire 34 year history,pics,45 min+ audio....35.95
The Holy Bible...................................................31.95
Time Almanac 1990................................................14.95
TimeTable Art/Entertainmnt..Chronology-cultural,4200 stories.....22.95
TimeTable Business/Politics..Chronology-wealth,power,knowledge...22.95
TimeTable History/Science..Chronology-earth/cosmic,6000 stories..18.95
Tony Larusa Baseball..Great visuals,2500 stats,play-by-play......56.95
Tortoise and the Hare............................................38.95
Too Many Fonts..TT,ATM,WFN,1st Pub,ghost script,HP laserjet......16.95
Too Many TypeFonts.514 TT fonts,393 ATM,modifiers,uploaders,more.12.95
TW Reference Library..Web. dict,thesaurus,speller,desk ref,legal.17.95
Total Baseball 1993...1871 to '92 world series,500+ pics,sound...22.95
Total Heart,The (Mayo Clinic)..48 videos,145 pics,60 min audio...38.95
Tropical Rainforest..100 sound/images-S.A. creatures & birds.....34.95
True Crime Stories...............................................36.95
Trump Castle & other games.......................................27.95
Twain's World..complete works-fiction/non-fiction,pics,biography.29.95
Twelve Roads to Gettysburg...comprehensive,MM,interviews,photos..44.95
U.F.O............................................................38.95
Ultima Underworld 1 and 2........................................59.95
Undersea Adventure..3D Deep Sea Hunt,Cruises,Sea Lab,Movies,more.48.95
Unix..386BSD,Linux,NetBSD,compl sources & binaries...............27.95
USA State Factbook...............................................30.95
USA Today, the 90s v.1..multimedia capsule of 90s news/events....27.95
USA Wars-Civil War...Chronology,photos,bios,campaigns,audio......30.95
USA Wars-Korea...'50-'53-photos,stats,glossaries,bios,facts......32.95
USA Wars-Vietnam...biographies,chronology,facts,audio............32.95
USA Wars-World War II...detailed text/image/sound presentations..32.95
U.S. Atlas MPC.Explore with maps,state/region/country info,miles.24.95
U.S. Atlas/Automap...maps,demographics,enviromental,conversions..28.95
U.S. Civics...learn USA for those who want to be US citizens.....32.95
U.S. History..(Bureau).1M+ photos,maps,tables,topics,107 books...18.95
U.S. Presidents...biographies/stats on 41 presidents/1st ladies..32.95
U.S./World Atlas w/Chessmaster & Mavis Beacon (4 Pak)............39.95
U.S./World Atlas...maps,demograph,conversions,oceanic,area codes.18.95
U.S./World Atlas MPC v3...windows version........................18.95
VGA Spectrum #2...thousands of gifs/sound files..................19.95
Victor, Vector, and Yondo:Vampire's Coffin.......................52.95
Visions of Saturn................................................22.95
Wacky Funsters...................................................29.95
Wave Pool........................................................19.95
Who Killed Sam Rupert...Interactive virtual murder mystery.......22.95
Wild Places...100 stunning photos,50 audio clips-wild America....22.95
Wing Commander 2 Deluxe..........................................34.95
Wing Commander 2/UUnderWrld......................................59.95
Wing Commander/Ultima 6.Revolutionary star fighter/magic-mystery.19.95
Wing Commander w/Secret Missions.................................24.95
Wolf Pack........................................................38.95
Women of Venus...all swimsuit pics from famous modeling agency...20.95
World Atlas 4 MPC...Explore each continent/country of the world..22.95
World View..Sound/piano music-images of earth & solar system.....22.95
World Vista Atlas..Tour 200 countries,music,1M+ pics,MPC.........29.95
World Fact Book..CIA/KGB Yearbook,Hamm.maps,flags,247 countries..14.95
World of Flight...Complete multimedia tour thru world of planes..35.95
World of Trains...Complete multimedia tour thru world of trains..35.95
World of Xeen-Might and Magic...3D animated adventure,much more..46.95
World Traveler..Hi-rez images,royalty free,pcx/gif,mm slide show.12.95
Wrath of the Demon...............................................22.95
Zip Code 9 digit...9 digit zipcoded directory of US addresses....22.95
CD Caddies (Sony Compatible)......................................4.50
Jewel Cases.......................................................1.45
Windows 3.1 with mouse bundle....................................52.95
Pro Audio Spectrum 16 Basic.....................................138.95
Pro Audio Spectrum 16...........................................164.95
Panasonic CR562B with controller-double spin internal CDROM.....239.95
Chinon 535 SCSI Internal (Bare)...280ms access/330kb transfer...399.95
Toshiba 3401 SCSI Internal (Bare)..200ms access/330kb transfer..449.00
Pioneer 600A (Bare)..600ms/150kb transfer..709.00...Cash Price..689.00
Pioneer 600A w/8 bit Kit...................789.00...Cash Price..769.00
Pioneer 602X (Bare)..600ms/double spin.....859.00...Cash Price..839.00
Pioneer 602x w/8 bit kit(avail late 1/94)..939.00...Cash Price..919.00
Pioneer 604X (Bare)..300ms/612kb transfer.1069.00...Cash Price.1039.00
Pioneer 604X w/8 bit Kit..................1149.00...Cash Price.1119.00
Pioneer 1804X (Bare) 300ms/612kb transfer.1995.00...Cash Price.1885.00
 
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PRODUCT ORDERS ONLY*NO Questions/No
* PCJ Computing- December 24,1993 * Catalogs/No Order Stats-800-547-7817
* We try to meet all competition. * Visa/MC/Amx/Disc/Dinrs/Cart/Chek/COD
* No surcharges. Full catalog with* For QUESTIONS/CATALOGS/ORDER STATUS
* descriptions on BBS-PCJCDS.ZIP. *  (No Exceptions) (9-7) 615-339-0235
* No CODs on drives.  Most titles *   BBS HST/14400  615-4782890/4791047
* in stock. Shipping not included *   Compuserve          - 71754,3514
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *  Internet-Doug.Carpenter@Junction.Cld9.Com

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From: GREG COBB@1:123/434                    Number: 9619
  To: ALL@FN                                   Date: 01/03/94  7:38p
Subj: Philips Driver                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone have a current Philips CDROM driver I could get from you?  The one
I have says 1991, and I can't use it and any memory manager together.  I'd
appreciate it.

-G-


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From: LEE NOGA@1:3618/23                     Number: 9620
  To: RANDY NEUNER@FN                          Date: 01/03/94  7:39p
Subj: Re: New disc                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <12-28-93 07:18> Randy Neuner wrote:

RN>> Lee, what will be the name of your new cd disc?  Shareware or what?
RN>> BBS
RN>> ready?

Women on Wheels, 1500 images of Hard R to X (nude) women posing on
or around a vintage Harley Davidson bike--BBS ready, no shareware.
From the photographer that does all the calendars, posters and a
majority of the photography for major mags such as 'Easyrider' and
other well known biker mags.

Hope this helps--

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA@1:3618/23                     Number: 9621
  To: ALL@FN                                   Date: 01/03/94  7:40p
Subj: Montg vs Noga vs Richard                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Attention All:

    We have asked on more then one occasion to have this civil matter
involving FLD removed from this forum. We feel David van Gelder and Bob
Montgomery have abused this echo to try and convict myself and FLD in a public
forum that is not privy to *ALL* of the case information. We will not respond
to any posts concerning this suit until the case comes to closure in the
Federal courts. They have chosen to make this a Federal issue in lieu of
settlement, and we look forward to the jury trial to put the blame in
perspective. Both gentleman have made inaccurate statements in their posts,
and we ask that you keep an open mind, and realize there are two sides to
this story.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: PAT RICKERSON@1:226/590                Number: 9622
  To: L RICHARD JOHNSON@FN                     Date: 01/03/94  7:40p
Subj: Refund                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello L!

31 Dec 93 16:45, L Richard Johnson wrote to Pat Rickerson:

 LRJ> Pat,
 LRJ>    I would like a refund of my $200 for the drives you sent me. I will
 LRJ> not send the drives back to you to look at as I feel it is a further
 LRJ> waste of my time. Upon receipt of my refund, I will then mail back the
 LRJ> drives. Basically you will be buying the drives back. I will not send
 LRJ> them before I have money fron you as they will be evidence for any
 LRJ> charges that may result if you fail to refund my money. Please call me
 LRJ> voice when you receive this message.

My husband talked to you and you agreed to send the drives back to me for us
to check them out. If you did not want to do this why didn't you tell him that
on the phone. I will refund your money as soon as the drives are sent back to
me, that is how I perfer to do it, (even stores want their things back before
you get a refund).
Pat

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From: MIGUEL GARCIA@1:3611/6                 Number: 9623
  To: ALL@FN                                   Date: 01/03/94  7:41p
Subj: WTT- Street Atlas USA V.2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello,

I am looking for Street Atlas USA version 2.  I believe this is a
windows CD.

I am willing to trade from among the following...

    OS/2 2.1 GA (5 1/4 inch disks)
    Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia for Windows -1992
    Quantum Gate (game CD from Media Vision for windows - 8MB RAM
min.) --- Day of the Tenticle CD

... many other games.

Miguel Garcia.


 * KWQ/2 1.2d NR * "Stop that, son, you'll go blind."  "I'm over HERE, Dad!"


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From: CHUCK WARREN@1:3611/15                 Number: 9624
  To: TERRY BLOUNT@FN                          Date: 01/03/94  7:42p
Subj: Hitachi 3600 cd rom drive               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->
->                     Here they are...   $99  each !
->
->  Hitachi cd rom drives model 3600 (that's right model 3600) $99 each.
->  Access time 350 ms.  Transfer rate 150 kb/s.  These EXCELLENT drives
->  can be daisy-chained up to 8 on each propitiatory controller card.

   What kind of discount for 6 in a 8-box?

   Chuck


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From: TAB TRESS@1:3663/102                   Number: 9625
  To: EDDIE MONEY@FN                           Date: 01/03/94  7:43p
Subj: Busty Babes Volume I  Version I         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for about $80

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From: IAN SINGER@1:250/636@FIDONET.          Number: 9626
  To: DARREL FARRIS@FN                         Date: 01/03/94  7:44p
Subj: CD-ROM Wanted                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Night Owls 5 has 500 meg of Midi, soundblaster and cmf files on it. If
you want my price is $US25 delivered to North America with no surcharge
for Visa. Leave message at 416-252-1133 data.
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From: MARK CRANWELL@1:348/300                Number: 9627
  To: JOE RINEHART@FN                          Date: 01/03/94  7:45p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
JR>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
JR>If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
JR>We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
JR>CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
JR>        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
JR>    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
JR>Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
JR>P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
JR>Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

JR>--- MsgToss 2.0c
JR> * Origin: "If you can't find it, call config.sys!" 216-296-4446
(1:157/479)

Hi JOE: I noticed your add for a free catalog and would like one. I am
in Canada and have trouble finding discs. I would like to order some so
send me the catalog and prices. Larry williams
                                642-14 th st.
                                Brandon.Manitoba
                                Canada R7A4T9
___
 X OLX 2.2 X * Birdman BBS Brandon,Manitoba (204) 727-3758 *

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From: MATT BEDTELYON@1:348/300               Number: 9628
  To: ALL@FN                                   Date: 01/03/94  7:46p
Subj: Hitachi CDR-3600 CD-ROM's               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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If you are in the market for CD-ROM drives that are low
cost, daisy chainable up to eight (8) units on one card
and are warrantied for a full 30 days.........
MEG*A*BITE is pleased to announce that we made a large
purchase for over 600+ HITACHI 3600 CD-ROM readers.
These drives carry MEG*A*BITE's exclusive thirty day (30)
warranty that protects you from DOA's. External cabinets
are available for one, four and eight drive configurations.
The CDR-3600 drives have access speeds of 360 msec and a
transfer rate of 150 KBsec. These drives are HITACHI
quality through and through and will perform great in
personal and BBS usages. Now for the good news......
           Refurbished CDR-3600.......$130.00 or less
           IF8 Interface cards........$60.00 or less
           Cables.....................Free w/drive(s)
           Cabinets...................$CALL
    MULTIPLE DRIVE DISCOUNTS ARE AVAILABLE !!!!!!!
All of our drives are shipped UPS, with manuals and the
newest software drivers from Hitachi America!
You will see these drives advertised by others in these
echoes, so remember, call MEG*A*BITE and deal with the
CD-ROM professionals, not bargain basement wholesalers!
WE WILL BEAT ANY DEAL OFFERED BY ANY INDIVIDUALS SELLING
THESE DRIVES on any of the FIDO echoes. Remember, we
stock drives, cards, cases and cables for your every
need. So call us today were easy to remember......
                    We accept VISA!
                    We accept Mastercard!
                    We accept Carte Blanche!
                    We accept Diners Club!
We are MEG*A*BITE              Fido 1:239/675
1159 Orchard Road              Internet bedtelyo@cris.com
Essexville, MI 48732           A proud member of
Voice (517)892-5518            CRIS, a Sprint Network
FAX   (517)892-5965            located in beautiful
BBS   (517)892-5043            Bay City, MI




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From: CHAD HJELLE@1:282/1022                 Number: 9629
  To: JOE RINEHART@FN                          Date: 01/03/94  7:47p
Subj: Re: Cd-drives Plus                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Could you please either send me a copy of your catalog or upload one to
my BBS?  If you want to upload it, my BBS is: The Hacker Central BBS
(612) 796-2965 (Use Name Guest, Password Guest, and you can upload from
the main menu).  Or, if you want to mail it to me, my address is:

Chad Hjelle
9370 71st ST NE
Spicer, MN 56288-9642

Thanks.

... For Sale: Rottweiler. Eats anything, fond of children....
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From: TOM MILLER@1:390/22                    Number: 9630
  To: ALL@FN                                   Date: 01/03/94  7:48p
Subj: quicken in CD-Rom                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Greetings All !

Found this article on new products and thought everyone might be
interested:

______________________________________________________________________

QUICKEN FOR WINDOWS CD-ROM DELUXE EDITION

Intuit Inc. has introduced Quicken for Windows CD-ROM Deluxe Edition, the
first CD-ROM-based personal finance software program.

It incorporates the newly introduced Quicken 3 for Windows and Quicken
Companion, 2 complete with online documentation, The Wall Street Journal
Video Guide to Money and Markets, The Wall Street Journal Personal Finance
Library, over 20 U.S. government publications on personal finance and more.

The program capitalizes on the power of CD-ROM technology, enabling users to
manage finances and make educated financial decisions in a single
application.

Using full-motion video, the product includes interactive worksheets from
Vertigo Development Group featuring information from The Wall Street Journal.

Retail price is $69.95.

For information, contact Intuit Inc. at 155 Linfield Ave., P.O. Box 3014,
Menlo Park, CA 94026-3014

800/624-8742 (toll-free telephone); 415/322-0573 (telephone).

_____________________________________________________________________


 * WCE 1.5/2163 * Diamonds are forever.


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From: TOM MILLER@1:114/237                   Number: 9631
  To: CASEY ROMANSKI@FN                        Date: 01/03/94  7:49p
Subj: Re: TEST MESSAGE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > --> Casey Romanski Quotes a message written by Tom Miller
 > --> to All on 12-28-93 11:53 saying:
 > TM> Is this uplink working?
 > 
 > No.

Then this must have been a virtual message <g>
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From: DAVE CLARK@1:3601/75                   Number: 9632
  To: PETER DETTELIS@FN                        Date: 01/03/94  7:50p
Subj: CD-ROM Review: S/W Vault Win            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PD> I appreciate the CD-ROM disc reviews you do and upload to the CD-ROM 
PD> echo areasfor everone's benefit.  Keep them coming.

No problem... I have a batch in my bin waiting to put out here, but I'm going
to wait until I have a couple of other ones done.  Ah, the holidays, and the
end of the year... what fun... (smile!) 
  
  
                                 Dave Clark, Arsenal Computer
* SPITFIRE v3.4
== Arsenal Computer == (913) 234-8126 10 Lines 28 Gigabytes & Growing!
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From: RONNIE COHEN@1:157/46                  Number: 9633
  To: BORIS OSADCIW@FN                         Date: 01/03/94  7:50p
Subj: Re: Shareware CD's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to Jon Persky, Boris Osadciw said:
 > On 27 Dec 93 07:27pm, Jon Persky wrote to All:

 > >>    Can anyone lead me toward some quality shareware CD's for my 
 > >>    BBS? My ideal goal is to have one general shareware CD, one 
 > >>    games-oriented CD, and one Windows-oriented CD. FILES.BBS is a 
 > >>    MUST and I would prefer that the files be relatively recent 
 > >>    (mostly 1993, a few '92s are ok). And I don't want to spend 
 > >>    more than $100 for all three. If anybody can point me in the 
 > >>    right direction, even if all my specs don't match, please get 
 > >>    back to me.

 > >>    Thanks!

 > Jon, we have several cd's that would fit the above bill. One
 > would be
 > "Cream Of The Crop II", which has received a lot of good
 > comments. The
 > other would be "Gameware", which contains over 6,500 games on
 > it and
 > the final disk would be "Window Users Archivers" over 650megs
 > of icons,
 > wallpaper, back drops, utilties and more. All of the above
 > titles offer
 > files.bbs structures and would be a great addition to any bbs
 > system,
 > and yes, you could purchase all three for a lot less than
 > $100.

 > Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll
 > be happy
 > to assist you further.


 > Boris Osadciw

 > ... Without Silver Xpress, I DO NO MAIL!
 > --- FMail 0.96â
 > (1:157/46)
Jon: Cream of the Crop is good.  We have the latest JCSM (Nov 1993) CD-rom
that we are selling for $18.00, includes shipping.  Let me know if you are
interested.
Mom 'N' Pop's Software <ASP>
4205 Mariner Blvd. #169
Spring Hill, Fl. 34609
(904)-688-9108
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From: HERBERT SMITH@1:128/13                 Number: 9634
  To: AMY MOODY@FN                             Date: 01/03/94  7:51p
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi,
Interested in Secret Weapons and Carmen Deluxe.  Could I interest you in a
trade?  One ISOTEL surge protector, four outlets plus one for your
telephone/modem.  My  Isotel for your two CDs plus $8 to cover value plus
shipping.?
719-481-2483

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From: NINO FAGAN                             Number: 9635
  To: TOM MILLER                               Date: 12/31/93  6:31a
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Tom Miller wrote  
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
:>>How did you install it?  Understand that it doesn't have FILES.BBS
:>>files for BBS'?
:>
:>If it is like the other disks that Walnut Creek has released, it has
:>dirs for Pc-Board, RA, RBBS etc.... 
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

That was my mistake Tom, I was looking at the June issue.  The October
issue does in fact have those files.  Sorry.

Regards, 
Nino
... Error- REALITY.SYS not found, install TREK.SYS? (Y/n)?
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From: LARRY RICHARDSON                       Number: 9636
  To: WESLEY CHEW                              Date: 01/02/94 11:43p
Subj: FUSION16 SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WC> 1. Sony CD-31A (Kodak CD compatible, built in tray).
WC> 2. MediaVision Pro-Audio 16 sound board.

WC> Used only for 1.5 months. With original (unmailed) warranty card. I 
WC> willbundle with the following CD-ROM :-

Would you be interested in possibly trading for this? I can offer a Identity
256 Gray scale hand scanner with software and books & a Colorado Jumbo 250
Megabyte tape drive unit. If interested, leave me a message or contact me via
voice at (814) 474-2521 during the day.
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From: LARRY RICHARDSON                       Number: 9637
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/02/94 11:54p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
JR> We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.

Please send me a catalog:
Marvin Richardson
P.O. Box 527
Fairview, PA 16415
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From: LARRY RICHARDSON                       Number: 9638
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/02/94 11:56p
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Is your Re-ferb's complete or are they just the bare systems?
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From: MIKE BILOW                             Number: 9639
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/03/94 11:54p
Subj: Info-Magic                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone here carry the Info-Magic or Yggdrasil line of Unix-oriented disks,
such as Info-Magic "Internet Standards"? 

-- Mike
 
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From: JEFF MEUNIER                           Number: 9640
  To: AMY MOODY                                Date: 01/04/94  7:51a
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AM´  #7.  A Line in the Sand :
  ´       Commemorating The U.S. Marine Corps
  ´       participation in Operations Desert
  ´       Shield  and Desert Storm              $5.00


Amy,

I might be interested in this, what is it about?

Jeff

 * 1st 1.10 #2943 * Why go second class when 1st class is only $25?

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 9641
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/04/94  9:10a
Subj: * CD-ROM'S for Sale                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROMS for Sale

Software Options CD from IBM ...................  $13
The World Factbook - DOS .......................  $13
Calculus (Anton) 1st 3 chapters ................  $20
Loom ...........................................  $22
Q&A 4.0 from Symantec ..........................  $39
Tax-Prep 1993 ..................................  $12
CD-ROM Premier .................................  $12
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $14
PC Globe, PC USA and Automap ...................  $22
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $59
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $ 9
PC Sig Library 9th edition .....................  $11
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $14
Sneek Peeks from Sierra ........................  $13
Corel Art Show 3 with large Book ...............  $22
Phoenix-CD Version 3.0 .........................  $12
Chessmaster 3000 ...............................  $24
Groliers Encyclopedia ..........................  $33

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Registered Symantec Q&A Consultant


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From: MIKE BILOW                             Number: 9642
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/04/94  6:25p
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Jan 02 06:40>, Joe Rinehart of 1:157/479 writes:

 JR>                Internet alternate: joe@config.wariant.org

That must be a wariant of the correct address, which I assume is actually
"joe@config.wariat.org"?

-- Mike

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From: MIKE BILOW                             Number: 9643
  To: GERALD BANACH                            Date: 01/04/94  6:34p
Subj: looking for Sony 535's                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BD> -> I have a Sony CDU535 with a Sony Interface CDB 241. Unfortunately, th
 BD> -> interface card died. I would like to replace it with a sound card but
 BD> -> find one with a 40 pin connector. Do you have a suggestion?

The Az-Tech Sound Galaxy Basic 16 has two connectors on it, one for the Mitsumi
drives and the other for the Panasonic drives, and sells for about $115.  For
an extra $10, you can buy the Sony adapter for this card.  The card itself
comes with Windows 3.1 drivers, will emulate SoundBlaster, Adlib, Covox Speech
Thing, and Disney Sound Source, and has MIDI support.

Try USA Flex, (800) 800-8323.

-- Mike

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 9644
  To: MIKE BOULTER                             Date: 01/04/94  9:59a
Subj: Hitachi 3600 cd rom drive               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Mike   Boulter   wrote   in  a   message   to    Terry    Blount:

->   Hitachi cd rom drives model 3600 (that's right model 3600) $99 each.
->   Access time 350 ms.  Transfer rate 150 kb/s.  These EXCELLENT drives
->   can be daisy-chained up to 8 on each propitiatory controller card.

MB> Please give me more details...  one  controller,  one  irq,  one
MB> dma channel and one address, just  like  SCSI,  to  access  upto
MB> 8 of these drives?

 No irq is needed. You can use up to 8 of these  controller  cards
 in a system  by  moving  the  jumpers  to  different  addressees.
 Unlike other cd rom  interface  cards I  have  dealt  with  these
 don't have a DMA channel to set.

MB> How much of a discount for buying  9  or  10  or  so  (with  one
MB> controller)?

 I have a package deal for 8 drives set up  in  an  external  case
 with p/s, controller, caddies etc. including shipping and  c.o.d.
 ( a $1,000 ) value for  $960.

 I can't offer a better price than $99 on the  drives  unless  you
 take a quantity of 50 or more.  Call  if  you  want  50+  drives.

                          205-824-2552

Thanks



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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 9645
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/04/94 10:10p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


                Here   they    are...         $99        each    !

 Hitachi cd rom drives model 3600 (that's right model 3600) $99 each.
 Access time 350 ms.  Transfer rate 150 kb/s.  These EXCELLENT drives
 can be daisy-chained up to  8  on each propitiatory controller card.

 They can use the same controller cards that  are  used  with  the
 model 3500's.  If you don't  already  have  an  interface  card I
 have them NEW for $60.         I also have:
 Caddies                         $  5   each.
 External cases  for 4 drives    $ 20
 External cases  for 8 drives    $ 25
 Cables for 4 or 8 drives        $ 10
 Power supplies. (110/220)       $ 25
 Shipping   aprox.                       $    4      each   drive.

 30 day warranty.        All domestic orders are shipped    c.o.d.

 Total for an 8  drive  setup  assembled  in  case  with  p/s  and
 interface,  cables,  caddies,  ready  to  plug  in  and   play...
 including shipping c.o.d. (A $1,000 value)  ALL  for  only   $960

 4 drive setup as above....  A $560 value   special offer .....$530

 Call voice 205-824-2552  or "crash" netmail your order to 3625/441.
 Sorry...  routed  netmail  won't reach me since I get my  feed  via
 satellite.

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 9646
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 01/03/94  6:46p
Subj: Montg vs Noga vs Richard                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

In a message to All <on 01-01-94> Lee Noga said:

 LN> Attention All:

 LN>    We have asked on more then one occasion to have this civil
 LN> matter involving FLD removed from this forum. We feel David van

You need character witnesses?  Those of us that follow this echo know who is
the villain.  We are behind you all the way.

 * MKRead v1.04 * Pardon me, but that's my leg you're gnawing off.


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 9647
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 01/03/94 12:47p
Subj: So Be it David                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


In a message to Lee Noga <01-02-94 14:48> David Vangelder wrote:

DV>> LN>> We have asked you more then once to remove this from this forum
DV>> LN>> the public eye. It would be in your best interest to do so.

DV>> Ms. Noga, it seems to me that you to have a real problem
DV>> comprehending,
DV>> remembering and expressing FACTS.

Mr. van Gelder, we have asked you on multiple occasions to drop this thread
from the public eye. This echo was not intended to be an area for civil
disputes, and we will not use this echo to respond to your posts nor Mr.
Montgomery's--We will not respond, dispute nor correct nor add to the
information selectively omitted from both your's and Montgomery's posts.

The law has provided you an area in which you may exercise your rights, as well
as have my rights respected, and let me add this echo is not the place I speak
of. It would be in your best interest to drop this thread.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 9648
  To: JERRY CORNELIUS                          Date: 01/03/94 12:55p
Subj: Re: Adult CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to James Parker <12-31-93 14:55> Jerry Cornelius wrote:

JC>> I'm happy with the Hot Pix series.  Stay away from Private Pictures,
JC>> it's almost an empty disc, lots of duplicates with other discs, and
JC>> about half the GIFs are clothed.  I've heard that Asian Ladies is
JC>> mostly
JC>> empty too.  Busty Babes is apparently a fairly bland collection of
JC>> photos showing posed models without actual action.  XXX-treme (aka
JC>> Physical Therapy) is cheap and good.

Note, a majority of the disc's you have named are out of production and the
last of them are purging from distribution--This time next year, there will be
very few XXX disc's available that are not licensed (and there will be few of
these)--The industry has changed remarkably since 1992, and 1994 is going in
the opposite direction--Alot more of the softer disc's will be the adult
industry--I don't make the rules, I just have to abide by them :)

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: JOYCE ZWEEDYK                          Number: 9649
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 01/04/94  2:01p
Subj: Carmen san diego                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Jeff Jenkins to Joyce Zweedyk dated 01-01-94 ***
> 20.00 plus shipping is more than I was even asking...I was including the
> shipping. Anyway 20.00 is fine (including shipping)


You have the documentation for it, correct and these are original disks
correct?

If so, how do we get together?

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9650
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/04/94  6:34a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9651
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/04/94  6:34a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
                        ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $110.00 30day warrantee
Refurbished  NEC Model 36       CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee

                    ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee

                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
14.4 Power supply..................$10.00 ea.
external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
Shipping (drives)$25.00 for up to 2 drives,$40.00 for 3-4 drives.

                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
offering all
refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit, to be
shipped
upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30 days for
receipt of
your refurbished drive.

                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariant.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: BILL HUGHEY                            Number: 9652
  To: JONATHAN ROLFE                           Date: 01/04/94 11:01p
Subj: Qsl                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hea If you still want your "ticket" there is a NO-CODE ham license you get
full freq above 50mhz meaning you can operate on the 6 meter  2 meter  220mhz
440mhz and microwave bands. Its lots of fun if you want more info let me
know...and your right the shortened words do save space. ...Later Bill

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 9653
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 01/04/94 12:16p
Subj: Re: Montgomery vs Noga                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <01-02-94 21:17> Doug Carpenter wrote:

DC>>  LN> We have asked you more then once to remove this
DC>>  LN> from this forum and the public eye. It would be in
DC>>  LN> your best interest to do so.

DC>> Amen to that.  I'm getting a little tired of reading about their
DC>> legal problems <g>.

Me too :)

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 9654
  To: HARRY LEWIS                              Date: 01/03/94 10:06a
Subj: For Sale./                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HL> How about $75 for the sound card?   I'm sure you could get more than

Already sold the sound card, but thanks for the offer.
 
  SMRead 3.3  #?    
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 9655
  To: T. CURTIS                                Date: 01/04/94  5:08p
Subj: For Sale or Trade: Man Enough           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TC>        I have Tsunami's Man Enough for sale or trade.. All dox and
TC> box, two cd's.. Not even registered..

I'll trade you rebel assault for it, or offer $35 shipped.
 
  SMRead 3.3  #?    
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From: ADAM BRIAND                            Number: 9656
  To: JOSEPH DANIELS                           Date: 01/03/94  7:18p
Subj: CDROMs for Sale       5/                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   >                     STAREWARE LIBRARY, RUSH ORDER FORM    
   >        |Shipping/Handling $10 (FREE if buy 3 or more) |            |  
   
Great prices but your price for shipping seems a bit high.  How about $5
for shipping if I buy two titles off of you?

 * JABBER v1.1 * Look its a babble fish:    ><>     o..<><   ><>.o

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From: ADAM BRIAND                            Number: 9657
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 01/03/94 10:16p
Subj: Adult CD Discs for trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN > I have the following adult cd discs for trade:    
   >  
   > FAO 3   
   > Physical Therapy
   > Adult Reference Library
   >
   > Want shareware bbs ready or other adult discs.  Thanks
   >
   > Randy
   >
I'll trade ya Animation Fantasies 2 for FAO 3.

 * JABBER v1.1 * JABBER the no meat, no oil QWK reader

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From: ADAM BRIAND                            Number: 9658
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 01/03/94 10:17p
Subj: Bb                                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

   > OH! I misunderstood :) <blush>.....Sorry ! Well, good    
   > question, we have a full plate with 3 projects going to  
   > press, and have not thought of the BB sequal as of yet--   
   > Will let you know as soon as I do !
   >
   > The Women on Wheels will be another series disc's just like
   > the BB series, that I know :)
   >
   > Hugs,
   >
   > -=*>Lee<*=-
   >
Are any of your future disks going to include 24-bit pictures as well as
256 color ones?  It's a great way to fill up the extra 200+ megs of space
and it provides a bonus for the people with the capability.  (plus you
will get a lot less complaints rather than filling it up with shareware!).

 * JABBER v1.1 * I'm sure it's clearly explained in the Zmodem DOC's

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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 9659
  To: SHELDON KOEHLER                          Date: 01/04/94  5:54p
Subj: TEST MESSAGE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Port Angeles, Washington -- from El Paso, Texas, and a long-time
resident of Washington state. I moved from the Tacoma area in August of
1985. How is it in your "neck of the woods?" I remember P.A. as being a
nice city.


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From: FRANK CARTISANO                        Number: 9660
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/03/94  9:24p
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Frank is replying to Joe who replied to All on 29 Dec 93 02:35am

 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
 JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
 JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
 JR> We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
 JR> CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
 JR>         Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
 JR>     FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
 JR> Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
 JR> P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
 JR> Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

 JR> --- MsgToss 2.0c
 JR>  * Origin: "If you can't find it, call config.sys!" 216-296-2244
 JR>  (1:157/479)

Would you like me to send my address to you in this echo? If not how?
Frank Cartisano

Frank Cartisano

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 9661
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 01/03/94  7:50p
Subj: CD 6-Pack                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MB> single drive units will always out perform a 6 pack.

In your opinion, would you say that single drives would even be better then the
Pioneer DMR604X?

CJK


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From: JEAN-LOUIS BONTRONT                    Number: 9662
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 01/03/94  5:14p
Subj: Education Master, volume 2.             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dave Clark digitally articulated the following
to Jean-Louis Bontront on 02 Jan 94  01:36


 DC> Jean-Louis, who did you order with?

I've been trying to dig up the little piece of paper that I wrote the
name on, but can't find it, and the original message has since been
purged from my message base.  I ordered from an 800 service number
anyways.

Oh well, I'll just wait a little while longer and see, then decide what
to do.

JLB

... My wife's other car is a broom!
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From: DANIEL HAGAN                           Number: 9663
  To: JOHN VAN HARE                            Date: 01/04/94 12:14a
Subj: Mitsumi Double Speeds                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > It is a nationwide chain of discount sppliance/electronic department
 > stores.

That narrows it down John...think you can just cough up the name next time?

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From: DANIEL HAGAN                           Number: 9664
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 01/04/94 12:31a
Subj: Montgomery vs noga et al                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > You can have your temper trantums if you wish, but those of us out
 > here in the marketplace will have the final say.  You are OUTTA here,
 > bud! Please don't waste any more of the system bandwidth with some
 > sort of assinine excuse or reply.  You had your say, and I had mine.

I didn't see the first part of this thread...but if the Noga disks are using
VPIC as an active viewer (i.e. setup as the frontend), he ought to get some
reimbursement.  If the program is an archive on the disk with many other
archived shareware programs, then I'd support erasing copies of the shareware
off of BBS systems that are helping him move his product.

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From: SCOTT INNES                            Number: 9665
  To: ROBERT BROOKS                            Date: 01/03/94  4:06p
Subj: !FREE CD CATALOG!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: DAVID HAYNES                           Number: 9666
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/04/94 12:55p
Subj: CD-ROM FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WELCOME ALL......

     For Sale.....


Not hot  but Verry good CD-ROM DEAL.


Sound Blaster Pro 16-Card  With Sound Blaster CD-ROM Drive......


     Must sale Make an Offer..   Looking for A CD-ROM Drive ... This one
Works Very well....

                              O.c.c.s.p.,,,,,,,---
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From: STEVE KRAISLER                         Number: 9667
  To: MIKE HILL                                Date: 01/04/94  8:26a
Subj: 7th guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Got your check on Monday.  Hope to get to the post office today (tuesday) but
we got hit by large storm last night.  I'll ship it out first chance i get.

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From: JEFF DOVE                              Number: 9668
  To: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                         Date: 01/03/94 12:09p
Subj: Garage Sale (or Trade)...               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT FOR THE MODEM LEAVE ME A MESSAGE


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9669
  To: KIRK BAXTER                              Date: 01/04/94  1:57a
Subj: WANTED:STREET ATLAS &/OR                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KB>WANTED:
KB>   Current version of Street Atlas USA
KB>   Current version of Global Explorer

Both in stock.  Call with your best price!

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9670
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/04/94  1:57a
Subj: NEW 1994 CD-ROM LIST! pt1               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 January 1994            DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST        Last update: 1/4
 ********************************* 1 of 3 *********************************

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 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities................12.00    Microsoft Cinemania 1994 MPC..59.00
 20th Century Sports...........29.00    Microsoft Golf MPC............48.50
 20th Century Video Almanac....29.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........38.50
 7th Guest OEM.................39.00    Middle East Diary.............35.00
 7th Guest w/ Video............48.80    MIDI & Wave Workshop (NEW)....15.90
 9-Digit Zip Code Guide........32.00    MIDI Music Shop...............26.50
 9000 Sounds...................25.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50
 A.S.P. Shareware (NEW)........22.00    Monarch Notes.................48.00
 Action Traveler (NEW).........29.00    Monster Media 93 vol 2........29.00
 Adventures in Heaven (NEW)....19.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...25.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........35.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....18.00
 American Business Phonebk 91..15.00    Multimedia Magic Collection...28.00
 American Business Phonebk 93..25.00    MVP Game Jamboree (NEW).......12.00
 Aminet Amiga..................15.00    National Geographic Mammals...24.00
 Anecdotes 1...................14.50    National Parks................24.50
 Anecdotes 2...................14.50    Nature Graphics (NEW).........29.00
 Anecdotes 3...................14.50    Newsweek Interactive (NEW)....26.50
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......19.00    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....22.00    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Arizona Images................25.00    Night Owl 8.0.................24.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......28.50    Night Owl 10.1................30.00
 Audubon's Birds...............23.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    Night Owl Games...............27.00
 Battle Chess..................25.00    Night Owl Graphics............27.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........25.00    Night Owl Windows (NEW).......27.00
 Best of Microprose............23.40    North American Fax Book.......32.50
 Beyond the Wall of Stars......24.50    Oceans Below (NEW)............27.50
 Bible Library.................28.50    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Bibles & Religion.............12.00    OS/2Box.......................25.00
 Britannica Family Choice......28.50    Otherware (Mac/Amiga S/W).....25.00
 Britannica Select Software....28.50    Our Solar System..............12.00
 Business Assistant............12.00    PC Karaoke w/ Microphone......65.00
 Business Master...............20.00    PC Paramedic (NEW)............25.00
 C User's Group Library........29.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....27.00
 Canadian Shareware............19.00    PC-SIG 11.....................10.60
 Career Opportunities..........26.00    PC-SIG Windows................19.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    Pentomino.....................23.00
 CD Powerbox ($6 w/ any order).15.00    Peter and the Wolf............25.00
 CD Powerbox 2 (NEW..All 93!)..29.00    Phoenix 4.0...................18.00
 CD Winbox 1.01................20.00    Phoenix Phun & Games..........15.00
 CD-ROM of CD-ROMs ($9 w/ ord).29.00    Phonedisc USA.................69.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Pier 2........................24.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Pier 3 (In Stock!)............29.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Pier 2/3 2-Pak................49.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Pinacotheca Multimedia........24.00
 Clipart Goliath...............12.00    Pixel Garden..................34.00
 Clipart Heaven................25.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Clipart Warehouse (NEW).......12.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Color Magic Clipart (NEW).....27.00    Playing w/ Language: English..24.50
 Colossal Cookbook.............12.00    Playing w/ Language: French...24.50
 Companion for OS/2 (NEW)......18.90    Playing w/ Language: German...24.50
 Companion for Windows (NEW)...18.90    Playing w/ Language: Japanese.24.50
 Companion for WordPerfect.....18.90    Playing w/ Language: Spanish..24.50
 Complete Bookshop.............12.00    Precision Mapping.............68.00
 Composer Quest................33.00    Prescription Drugs............27.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency....89.00    Profiles of Colleges..........29.50
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....59.00    Project Gutenberg.............22.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....64.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak 4th Qtr..109.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9671
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/04/94  1:57a
Subj: NEW 1994 CD-ROM LIST! pt2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 ********************************* 2 of 3 *********************************

 Computer Reference Library....12.00    ProPhone 1993 Business........29.00
 Conan the Cimmerian...........27.50    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....34.50    Publish-It 2.0................25.00
 Cookbook Heaven...............23.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........35.00
 CorelDraw 3.0.................69.00    Publisher's Paradise..........29.00
 Cybergenic Ranger.............19.50    Publisher's Paradise Pro......35.00
 Dagger of Amon Ra.............32.00    Publisher's Powerhouse (NEW)..29.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Puzzlemania (NEW).............14.30
 Dare, Bluff, or Die (NEW).....29.00    Q&A 4.0.......................35.00
 Day of the Tentacle...........44.50    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......12.00    Rebel Assault (NEW)...........49.00
 Desert Storm..................33.50    Reel Clips....................25.00
 Desktop Bookshop..............21.50    Reference Library ............24.50
 Dictionaries & Language.......12.00    Return to Zork................50.00
 Dictionary of Living World....32.50    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...37.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............33.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
 Dinosaurs!....................33.00    Scrabble Deluxe (NEW).........34.00
 Dr. Games.....................20.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
 Dr. Music.....................20.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
 Dr. Shareware.................20.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Dr. Windows...................20.00    Shareware 1993 vol 2..........20.00
 DTPro.........................26.50    Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......49.00
 Dune..........................39.00    Shareware Online 1............19.00
 Ecoquest......................27.50    Shareware Online 2............29.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Overload............12.00
 Electronic Cookbook...........29.00    Shareware Overload Trio (NEW).29.00
 Electronic Home Library.......29.00    Shareware Studio 2............23.00
 Electronic Library of Art.....39.50    Shareware Studio 3............25.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........12.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.00
 European Monarchs.............35.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...49.00
 Family Doctor.................26.00    Sights & Sounds...............22.50
 Firearms Reference............24.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    Sleeping Beauty...............25.00
 Font Master 2.................24.00    So Much Screenware............27.50
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Shareware 2...........19.00
 Fractunes.....................30.00    So Much Shareware 3...........25.00
 Fresh Arte....................34.00    So Much Space (NEW)...........24.00
 Funny.........................33.00    Software Vault 1..............19.00
 Game Arena....................12.00    Software Vault 2..............19.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Software Vault Gold...........25.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Solar Heaven (NEW)............23.00
 Games Collection (90% 1993!)..26.00    Sound Effects Library.........19.00
 Games Platinum (NEW)..........22.00    Sound Sensations..............12.00
 Gameware Collection...........24.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.00    Soundware Collection..........24.00
 Gardening (NEW)...............12.00    SoundWAV......................25.00
 GIF Galaxy (NEW)..............24.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 GIF's Galore 9/93.............16.50    Space & Astronomy (NEW).......27.00
 Giga Games....................19.50    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Global Explorer...............85.00    Space Quest IV................19.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Space Shuttle (NEW)...........25.00
 Grammy Awards.................34.00    Space Time and Art (NEW)......34.50
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Star Trek Collectibles........59.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Stellar 7.....................19.50
 Great Wonders of the World....42.00    Straight from Heaven (NEW)....19.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency 6.0 (NEW)..45.00    Street Atlas USA v2...........94.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...23.00    STW Illustrated Encyclopedia..34.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 93...29.00    STW Multimedia Encyclopedia...44.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9672
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/04/94  1:57a
Subj: NEW 1994 CD-ROM LIST! pt3               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 Guy Spy.......................29.50    STW MPC Encyclopedia..........44.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............29.00    Super Games for DOS...........10.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................12.00    Super Games for Windows 1.....10.00
 Ham Radio/Scanner Companion...23.50    Super Games for Windows 2.....10.00
 Hamware 1993..................23.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........33.00
 Health & Medical Directory....27.50    Tech Arsenal..................21.50
 Hobbes OS/2 10/93.............16.00    Technotools...................12.00
 Hollywood the Bizarre (NEW)...39.50    Tempra Access Photo Software..19.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......35.00
 Home Designer (NEW)...........29.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Home/Office Legal Guide.......12.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Horror & Sci-Fi Films (NEW)...39.50    Timetable of Business/Politic.26.00
 House of Games................18.50    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Images of NASA (NEW)..........25.00    Too Many Typefonts............12.00
 Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00    Total Baseball 1992...........24.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Total Baseball 1993...........28.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Total Heart by Mayo Clinic....49.00
 Interactive Story Time 3......29.00    Trump Castle..................23.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    U.S./World Atlas MPC..........25.00
 Int'l Graphics Library........27.50    U.S. Atlas MPC................23.00
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....29.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Jets & Props..................28.50    U.S. History..................29.00
 Jewel Cases................... 1.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Jokes & Pranks................12.00    U.S. Wars: Civil War..........34.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............39.00    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............34.00
 King's Quest V................20.00    U.S. Wars: WWII...............34.00
 King's Quest VI (Retail Box)..39.00    USA Today: The 90's (NEW).....36.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    VGA Spectrum 1................13.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........19.00    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 La Coleccion (Spanish S/W)....19.50    Video Movie Guide (NEW).......28.50
 Lan Master....................25.00    Virtual 3D (w/ glasses!)......28.50
 Language Discovery (NEW)......19.00    Virtual Reality Starter Kit...49.00
 Languages of the World........37.00    Wave Pool (NEW)...............19.00
 Learning Adventure............12.00    Who Killed Sam Rupert.........21.90
 Learning Heaven...............19.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Library of the Future #1......39.00    Wildcat Gold..................20.50
 Libris Britannia..............34.00    Win Platinum..................22.00
 Linux.........................27.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Loom..........................19.00    Windoware.....................12.00
 Mac Multimedia Space..........29.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Mac Shareware.................19.00    Windows Collection (NEW)......26.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........29.00    Wing Commander 2 Deluxe.......39.30
 Macromind Action..............32.00    Wing Commander 2/Ultima U.W...41.50
 Mad Dog McCree................39.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Mailer's Lookup (NEW).........27.50    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Majestic Places...............38.50    World Atlas MPC ..............23.00
 Mantis........................24.00    World Fact Book M/M...........23.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..25.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............26.00    World Traveler................12.00
 Mega Clipart..................20.20    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf 1992 MPC..32.50    World Vision 3-Pak............39.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..49.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00
 Microsoft Cinemania 1993 MPC..52.00    X11R5/GNU.....................23.40

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9673
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/04/94  1:57a
Subj: SOFT ADULT CD TITLES.....               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 January 1994         SOFTCORE ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST     Last update: 1/4
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
 Amateur Models................34.00    Girls of Mardi Gras (New!)....43.00
 American Girls (New!).........34.00    High Volume Nudes.............36.50
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......29.00    L.A. Strippers (Movie)........49.00
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......48.00    Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00
 Digital Dreams 1..............28.00    Photo Gallery.................34.00
 Digital Dreams 2 (New!).......29.00    Southern Beauties.............33.00
 Digital Dreams 2-Pak..........49.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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 * SLMR 2.1a * ...Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball...

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9674
  To: BOB HAY                                  Date: 01/04/94  1:57a
Subj: NEWEST CD-ROM TITLES.....               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BH>Is there a CD-ROM with Windows games you can run straight from the CD
without
BH>de-archiving, transfer to the HD, etc?

These are some nice ones: Super Games for Windows vol 1 or vol 2 @ $10
each, or the new Games Platinum @ $22.  All are in stock.

BH>Also, is there a new CICA Windows disk in the offing?

The most current one I have is 8/93, but there may be a new one out by
now.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9675
  To: JORDAN FEINMAN                           Date: 01/04/94  1:57a
Subj: OS/2 CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JF>Are your OS/2 CDs in the ISO9660 format?

If you're referring to Hobbes, OS/2Box, and OS/2 Companion, then the
answer is yes.  Give us a call if you would like to order any of these.
All are in stock, and we have a package price of $53 for all three.

Later,
.\\ike

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 * SLMR 2.1a * Dammit Jim!  I'm a doctor, not a tagline!

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From: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                       Number: 9676
  To: JEFF RUNNELS                             Date: 12/23/93  2:21p
Subj: Re: CD's for Sale                       Refer: NONE
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Call me at 619-789-2603 voice.
...Jeff...


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From: LARRY ADAMSON                          Number: 9677
  To: CHUCK WARREN                             Date: 01/04/94  6:22a
Subj: Re: Pioneer 6 Cd-Changer Want           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Chuck, I will make you an offer. $200. 

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From: DAVID RYDER                            Number: 9678
  To: WESLEY CHEW                              Date: 01/04/94  6:42p
Subj: *! MITSUMI 2X CD $219                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Message entered on Jan 3,94 by WESLEY CHEW to DAVID RYDER

WC>  > -> Mitsumi FX001D double-speed internal CD-ROM  ---  $219
WC>  >

WC> Best Buy in Oklahoma City is selling the Mitsumi FX001D for $197 bucks
WC> with a 16bit controller. But I'm not sure if it comes with OS2 Drivers.
WC> It sure is a good deal for a double speed drive!

    They are a similar price here Wesley, at $265 cdn
    (given that $1 US = $1.35 CDN)


***David.
 Entered Jan 4,94 from Mississauga, Ontario.    rn.1063@rose.com
   
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From: ANDY BRICK                             Number: 9679
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/04/94 10:14p
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the Wing Commander I / Ultima 6 CD-ROM fortrade or sale. Ialso have that
radio shack cd-rom also for trade or sale. Please leave offer in this echo if
interested.

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From: ERIC VAN WILTENBURG                    Number: 9680
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/04/94  6:08p
Subj: NO10 Phone                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anybody know the number where I can reach the Night Owl's Publishers
concerning a replacement for NO10 to NO10.1?  It has to be accessable in Canada
(British Columbia) please.  Thanks.

Eric.  :-)

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From: ANONYMOUS                              Number: 9681
  To: DAVID HILL                               Date: 12/20/93  6:14p
Subj: Re: games and cd-roms                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How much are you asking for the phoenix??

Jack

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From: JOEL MASON                             Number: 9682
  To: DOUG HUMMEL                              Date: 12/20/93  6:18p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested.  Where do I send the money?

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From: JOEL MASON                             Number: 9683
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/20/93  6:20p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom for sale                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How much?

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From: TOM PARADISO                           Number: 9684
  To: MICHAEL CHAMBERLAIN                      Date: 01/04/94  6:19a
Subj: Re: $99 cd rom drives                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Terry Blount to Mark Cranwell <=-

 TB> Mark   Cranwell   wrote   in  a   message   to   Terry    Blount:
 
 MC> HI TERRY: I  am  from  BRANDON,  MANITOBA,  CANADA  and  noticed
 MC> your add for $99 CD-ROM drives. I was was  wondering  if  all  I
 MC> have to do is plug it in and it works.

 TB> These drives (like all others)  need a  controller  card,  cable,
 TB> caddy, drivers.   Many people have the  cards  they  bought  with
     ^^^^^
     We need some six caddies you 4 and me 2 and that's with a spair?
     we should get one spair each.

 
 TB> the model 3500's that will run these drives.  I  have  the  cards
 TB> (that  will  run  up   to  8   of   these   drives)    for   $60.
 
 MC> I also will need a
 MC> card to hook it up as I have 2 hard drives now.

 TB> Hard drives use different cards.
 
 MC> What would
 MC> be the total cost for the  drive  and  card.  Let  me  know  and
 MC> maybe you will sell me one. I also would like  a  list  all  the
 MC> discs you have for them. Bye from the frozen north.


 TB> The  cost  of  the  controller  card  (including  cable)  is  $60
 TB> The cost of the drive is  $99  you  can  put  up  to 8  of  these
 TB> drives on the same controller card.

 TB> Call 205-824-2552

 TB> -!- timEd-A10c
 TB>  ! Origin: Center  of   the   Cosmos    205-824-2611  (1:3625/441)



... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: TOM PARADISO                           Number: 9685
  To: MICHEAL CHAMBERLAIN                      Date: 01/04/94  6:50a
Subj: Re: $99 cd rom drives                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Tom Paradiso to Michael Chamberlain <=-

  -=> Quoting Terry Blount to Mark Cranwell <=-
 
 TB> Mark   Cranwell   wrote   in  a   message   to   Terry    Blount:
 TP> 
 MC> HI TERRY: I  am  from  BRANDON,  MANITOBA,  CANADA  and  noticed
 MC> your add for $99 CD-ROM drives. I was was  wondering  if  all  I
 MC> have to do is plug it in and it works.
 
 TB> These drives (like all others)  need a  controller  card,  cable,
 TB> caddy, drivers.   Many people have the  cards  they  bought  with
 TP> ^^^^^
 TP> We need some six caddies you 4 and me 2 and that's with a spare?
 TP> we should get one spare each. --- Fixex the word Spair <G>
 TP> 
 TP> 
 TB> the model 3500's that will run these drives.  I  have  the  cards
 TB> (that  will  run  up   to  8   of   these   drives)    for   $60.
 TP> 
 MC> I also will need a
 MC> card to hook it up as I have 2 hard drives now.
 
 TB> Hard drives use different cards.
 TP> 
 MC> What would
 MC> be the total cost for the  drive  and  card.  Let  me  know  and
 MC> maybe you will sell me one. I also would like  a  list  all  the
 MC> discs you have for them. Bye from the frozen north.
 TP> 
 
 TB> The  cost  of  the  controller  card  (including  cable)  is  $60
 TB> The cost of the drive is  $99  you  can  put  up  to 8  of  these
 TB> drives on the same controller card.
 
 TB> Call 205-824-2552
 
 TB> -!- timEd-A10c
 TB>  ! Origin: Center  of   the   Cosmos    205-824-2611  (1:3625/441)
 TP> 
 TP> 
 TP> 
 TP> ... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
 TP> -!- Blue Wave/RA v2.12
 TP>  ! Origin: Hawk's Nest oF Panama +507-52-5076 (4:920/60)



... Pardon Me, But Would You Have Any Blue Poupon?
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From: MICHAEL CHOWNING                       Number: 9686
  To: CHUCK WARREN                             Date: 01/04/94 10:11p
Subj: PIONEER 6 CD-CHANGER WANT               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


Re: Pioneer 6-disk changer

 >    I have one I might be interested in letting go!  Make me an 
 > offer!

Chuck, is there a voice number where I can reach you?  If you haven't sold it I
might be interested if the price is right.

                          Michael

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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 9687
  To: SLEDGEHAMMER                             Date: 01/04/94  8:48p
Subj: Re: Bodacious Beauties -                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



              -|-  Quoting Sledgehammer to David Vangelder  -|-

 DV> By the way, I know of no BBS that gives ADULT access for free.
   > Perhaps you could post a list of the BBSs you are talking about,
   > as I have a lot of friends who would like to download adult images
   > for free.

 Sl> Im sorry but i have to step in here.
   > I RUN A FREE ADULT BBS HERE!!!!!!!!!
   > yes its free, with upload/download ratios that are fairly loose.

Agreed, there are PLENTY of free adult BBS around, even here in my
quasi-rural neck of the woods.  David, for a list of local BBS HERE in
the 407 area code, log onto any of several Orlando area BBS's and D/L
the latest BBS list, there are quite a few with FREE adult access.  One
of the best FREE adult boards is Gray Cat Graphix in Titusville, Fl.
Give them a call at 407-269-9448.  Regards!

)\/(ark


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From: EUGENE BAUGUESS                        Number: 9688
  To: CHUCK WARREN                             Date: 01/03/94 11:26p
Subj: 6 CD-Changer                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Chuck I am interested in the Pioneer 6 CD-Changer, is it a DRM600 or DRM604X,
what do you have with it and how much do you need for the unit.
Eugene
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From: EUGENE BAUGUESS                        Number: 9689
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/03/94 11:38p
Subj: Pioneer 6 CD-Changer Wanted             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking to buy another Pioneer changer, I am running a DRM604X
and need the price on a DRM600 or DRM604X. Need to know what comes with the
drive and need the price on the cable it takes to hook the drive to the one I
have.
Eugene
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From: SCOTT RENFRO                           Number: 9690
  To: JAYSON NOTARO                            Date: 01/05/94  2:45p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: 12951
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

JN>                                240ms access time
JN>                                335kb transfer rate
JN>                                all drive cables and driver software
JN>                                SCSI controller!

JN>                ALL FOR $299! That's what I have now.

JN>                                        Jayson

        Jason, Does that include the controller?  If so let me know the
        item number.  I called them and they said the controller card
        was an extra $50.  I would love to get this drive!!

                                Thanks,   Scott


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From: CALVIN MERRICK                         Number: 9691
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/06/94  9:52p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

--> Calvin Merrick Quotes a message written by Joe Rinehart
--> to All on 01-02-94 06:40 saying:
JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!******

JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to

JR> Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.   
JR> P.O. Box 27                        
JR> Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              
JR> 
JR> (1:157/479)

Please send a catalog to:

Calvin Merrick
5355A Lambert Drive, Norcross, GA 30093


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From: JAMES CLEVENGER                        Number: 9692
  To: JOHN GRANT                               Date: 01/04/94  9:34a
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD-ROMs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: CD32 (CD-ROM) dealer information from France.
 
I guess you could say you really have a "French" connection!  :-)
 
 
RE: CD32 sales / Commodore stock.
 
If the sales are that hefty in the United States, then yes, Commodore stock
could even go up past $14.  If you look at the all-time historical high, the
trading range indicates where the "market" will feel easy.  Commodore
International Limited is listed on the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) and the
ticker symbol is CBU.  The stock is down near $3.  So, to get 100 shares (1
round lot) would only cost you around $300 or so, plus about $40 discount
brokerage charge (from Schwab, for example).  $300 is not likely to break
anybody, I think, and it could easily double, triple or more if this new,
virtually untapped CD-ROM market explodes.  If you want to get in on the
action, you'd better do so now before it's too late - and if you care about
your friends better let them in on it too.  I remember when Commodore became a
billion dollar company selling those C-64s, so they have a track record of
doing miracles with consumer electronics.  Of course, they have some bad debt
problems and if they file for Chapter 11 for creditor protection, you could
lose everything you put in there (no guarantees in the stock market).
 
My personal opinion is that this could be one of those once-in-a-lifetime
buying opportunities - like Microsoft when it was an IPO.  I don't have to tell
you that there are several new millionaires from the move of Atari stock from
.50 a share to peak at over $12. Wall Street views Atari and Commodore as
pretty similar companies, so with a CD-ROM based unit, the sky is the limit for
CBU.  Hey, as long as 1994 is going to be "The YEAR of the CD-ROM", why not at
least make an attempt to get a piece of the action - especially since it's only
a phone call and a cheque away to start trading with a discounter like Schwab
(no minimum balance requirement).  I don't know of any other out-of-favor stock
that can be gotten into so cheaply by a small investor (again, this is very
speculative, a 100% risk for even a small amount of cash).
 
Re: CD32 contract with HP.
 
That's interesting news, can you tell me, specifically, what sort of system
Hewlet Packard is putting together that will use the CD-ROM technology of the
Commodore CD32?
100,000 units is nothing to sneeze at, that's for sure.
 
One thing that's always interested me is the CD32 unit itself just for the 2x
speed CD-ROM built into it.  I mean, I wonder the feasability of using that
SCSI-upgrade to hook the CD32 into my IBM and use it as a SCSI CD-ROM drive (in
addition to one heck of an interective multimedia machine in its own right). 
Do you suppose someone will write the SCSI drivers to accomplish this?  I mean,
at $350, the CD32 is worth it just for the CD-ROM drive, forgetting the 2 meg
Amiga in there.
 
By the way, how much is the full motion video (MPEG) circuit for the CD32 now? 
And do you feel that even the home VCR sales will suffer if people start
watching movies on thos CD-ROM sized discs?  Maybe Commodore is doing something
really good here that could make them a very big player in consumer electronics
generally.


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From: KENNETH ROACH                          Number: 9693
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/04/94  3:32a
Subj: JFK CDRom                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone have the recently introduced JFK CD available?

Ken

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From: STEVE BATSON                           Number: 9694
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 01/01/94  9:41p
Subj: package deals                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TB> Hitachi cd rom drives model 3600 (that's right model 3600) $99 each.
TB> Access time 350 ms.  Transfer rate 150 kb/s.  These EXCELLENT drives
TB> can be daisy-chained up to  8  on each propitiatory controller card.

Terry, 
      Do you take credit cards? If so, which ones? 

Steve
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From: DON BRADEN                             Number: 9695
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/03/94 11:16a
Subj: a dealer in CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

About 3 weeks ago an add appeared for a dealer in London Ont. Canada. I
wonder if anyone (including the dealer ) could give me the address. Thanks
in advance.
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From: RICK PEDLEY                            Number: 9696
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/04/94 11:36a
Subj: New cd's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>Educational Companion - 450+ megs - 3,700+ files - BBS Ready - Loaded with
BO>                        educational games, tutorials, languages and more !

Boris, do you happen to have a publisher's name and address for this disk? I'd
like to send them a couple of programs. And thanks for your prompt delivery of
my order; I've recommended you to a couple of other people.

Rick

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From: BILL WOOD                              Number: 9697
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/03/94  7:44p
Subj: Re: Cd-drives Plus                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Joe Rinehart to All <=- 
 
 JR> CD-ROM Drives 
 JR> ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES**** 
 JR> Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $110.00 30day warrantee 
 JR> Refurbished  NEC Model 36       CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee 
 
 JR> Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00 
 JR> IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP 
 JR> Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs! 
 
Hey, or the reburbished drives just as good as, well almost as good as a 
new one, does your 30day warrantee guarentee money back if something 
goes wrong with it. Thanks Bill 
 
... The last thing I saw was this Big Blue Wave! 
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From: JESSE SCHMELZER                        Number: 9698
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/03/94  1:38a
Subj: Re: Pioneer 6 Cd-Changer Wanted         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message on <29-Dec-93 03:11:03> Boris Osadciw (1:157/46) wrote:

 BO> On 26 Dec 93 04:33pm, Jesse Godsey wrote to Jesse Godsey:

 >>>   Looking for a good price on a new or really good used Pioneer 6
 >>>   CD-Changer, anyone have any idea where I could pick one up for 
 >>>   a decent price???

 BO> We carry them all !! If your interested, please feel free to give us a
 BO> call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to assist you further.

 BO> Hope this helps...


 BO> Boris Osadciw

 BO> ... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same! --- FMail
 BO> 0.96â
 BO>  * Origin: Buggie Works Via Satellite (216)225-6130 (1:157/46)

When you get the 1804x let me know i would like to get one. Also can you mail
me your latest Catalog???? never got one since i order a while ago.

 Jesse

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From: STEVE KRAISLER                         Number: 9699
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/04/94  6:56p
Subj: MegaMovie&GlobalExplorer                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for best price on Mega Movie Guide and Global Explorer.
Please respond here or SteveBK@bix.com

___
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From: PETE DINNELLA @ 924/1                  Number: 9700
  To: TOM MILLER                               Date: 01/04/94  9:28a
Subj: The Animals                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Tom,

TM>I had trouble with it too at first and I changed to 640x480 and it
TM>worked fine for me, you might try 800X600.

   Well I gave it a shot.  At 640x480 if I go straight to a photo after
loading, it looks great!  But if I run a video, THEN get a photo,
BLECH!  Timothy Leary color scheme again.  Oh Well!  But I'am getting
closer to figgerin' this out thanks to your help!

                   Thanks again and HAPPY 94!

                      ---===>PETE<===---

   
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From: ERIC ALEXANDER                         Number: 9701
  To: JOHN PARLIN                              Date: 01/04/94  2:18p
Subj: slap a key prompts? Buttonable?         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

John,
Question,
Would it be possible to make the slap a key to continue prompts,
etc...Buttonable? I know that the menus are buttonable, but to have to switch
back and forth between the keyboard and the mouse...Not much of a problem,
just a suggestion...
-=Eric=-

BTW,
NICE JOB..This is a whole new look, and is a great improvment...I look forward
to be able to give so input as to the development of FL.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9702
  To: JOHN GRANT                               Date: 01/05/94  1:46a
Subj: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JG>Hi!  Do you happen to have a listing of AMIGA CD-ROMS?

John,

We have very few that will run on Amiga systems, but we do sell two nice
Amiga shareware CD's: Aminet @ $14.30, and Otherware @ $20.  Otherware is
50/50 Mac and Amiga shareware.  If either of these two interest you, don't
hesitate to call!

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * I'm leaving my body to science fiction...

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9703
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/05/94  1:46a
Subj: CD-ROM SALE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #4:  CD-ROM LIQUIDATION!   |
         |________________________________________________________|

            All sales are final - Sale limited to stock on hand!

Mega Clipart........$20   Shareware Studio 2..$15   Grolier's MPC Ency..$29
World Vision 3-Pak..$37   Business Phonebk 91.$13   Bookshelf 1992......$32
Mac Shareware.......$17   Precision Mapping...$65   Mac M/M Space.......$28
CD Winbox...........$15   DTPro...............$24   Talking Jungle Safa.$29
Action Traveler.....$25   Phoenix 4.0.........$17   Wildcat Gold........$17
Funny...............$29   Int'l Graphics Libr.$25   Reel Clips..........$24
Library of Future...$37   Home Designer.......$27   Arizona Images......$19
Cinemania 1993......$52   Software Vault 1....$15   CD Powerbox.........$13
King's Quest V......$17   Hobbes OS/2 1992....$10   Sights & Sounds.....$20
K-Tracks Sound F/X..$17   Sounds for Windows..$15   Canadian Shareware..$17

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9704
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/05/94  1:46a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST pt 3                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 January 1994            DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST        Last update: 1/4
 ********************************* 3 of 3 *********************************

 Guy Spy.......................29.50    STW MPC Encyclopedia..........44.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............29.00    Super Games for DOS...........10.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................12.00    Super Games for Windows 1.....10.00
 Ham Radio/Scanner Companion...23.50    Super Games for Windows 2.....10.00
 Hamware 1993..................23.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........33.00
 Health & Medical Directory....27.50    Tech Arsenal..................21.50
 Hobbes OS/2 10/93.............16.00    Technotools...................12.00
 Hollywood the Bizarre (NEW)...39.50    Tempra Access Photo Software..19.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......35.00
 Home Designer (NEW)...........29.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Home/Office Legal Guide.......12.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Horror & Sci-Fi Films (NEW)...39.50    Timetable of Business/Politic.26.00
 House of Games................18.50    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Images of NASA (NEW)..........25.00    Too Many Typefonts............12.00
 Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00    Total Baseball 1992...........24.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Total Baseball 1993...........28.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Total Heart by Mayo Clinic....49.00
 Interactive Story Time 3......29.00    Trump Castle..................23.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    U.S./World Atlas MPC..........25.00
 Int'l Graphics Library........27.50    U.S. Atlas MPC................23.00
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....29.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Jets & Props..................28.50    U.S. History..................29.00
 Jewel Cases................... 1.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Jokes & Pranks................12.00    U.S. Wars: Civil War..........34.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............39.00    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............34.00
 King's Quest V................20.00    U.S. Wars: WWII...............34.00
 King's Quest VI (Retail Box)..39.00    USA Today: The 90's (NEW).....36.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    VGA Spectrum 1................13.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........19.00    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 La Coleccion (Spanish S/W)....19.50    Video Movie Guide (NEW).......28.50
 Lan Master....................25.00    Virtual 3D (w/ glasses!)......28.50
 Language Discovery (NEW)......19.00    Virtual Reality Starter Kit...49.00
 Languages of the World........37.00    Wave Pool (NEW)...............19.00
 Learning Adventure............12.00    Who Killed Sam Rupert.........21.90
 Learning Heaven...............19.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Library of the Future #1......39.00    Wildcat Gold..................20.50
 Libris Britannia..............34.00    Win Platinum..................22.00
 Linux.........................27.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Loom..........................19.00    Windoware.....................12.00
 Mac Multimedia Space..........29.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Mac Shareware.................19.00    Windows Collection (NEW)......26.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........29.00    Wing Commander 2 Deluxe.......39.30
 Macromind Action..............32.00    Wing Commander 2/Ultima U.W...41.50
 Mad Dog McCree................39.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Mailer's Lookup (NEW).........27.50    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Majestic Places...............38.50    World Atlas MPC ..............23.00
 Mantis........................24.00    World Fact Book M/M...........23.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..25.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............26.00    World Traveler................12.00
 Mega Clipart..................20.20    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf 1992 MPC..32.50    World Vision 3-Pak............39.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..49.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00
 Microsoft Cinemania 1993 MPC..52.00    X11R5/GNU.....................23.40

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


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From: TOM WHITFIELD                          Number: 9705
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 01/05/94 12:39p
Subj: Hitachi 3600 cd rom drive               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                     Here they are...   $99  each !

  Hitachi cd rom drives model 3600 (that's right model 3600) $99 each.
  Access time 350 ms.  Transfer rate 150 kb/s.  These EXCELLENT drives
  can be daisy-chained up to 8 on each propitiatory controller card.

Do these come with the controller cards, software, and cables?
Tom Whitfield
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From: JOE MOORE                              Number: 9706
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/05/94  6:24a
Subj: !FREE CD CATALOG!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
  >If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.

Joe,
  Please send me a copy of your catalog to the following address:

Joseph Wm Moore
138 Johnson Pt Rd
New Bern, NC 28560

 (919) 638-1692

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From: DANIEL SAYLES                          Number: 9707
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/03/94 10:55p
Subj: NEW CD-ROM PAKS                         Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hi Mike.
I was wondering if you would consider sending to South-Africa, and if
so, how much extra would it be?
Thanx 
   Daniel



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From: FANIE VILJOEN                          Number: 9708
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/04/94  8:24a
Subj: JAGUAR/3DO                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hia there !!

I am doing a feasability study on the Jaguar and 3DO as multiMedia 
platforms, and I need the following information...
Who can I contact for more information on Development kits, or authoring 
kits. 
Where can I get complete tech specs and sample software/hardware ???
Any Info will be greatly appreciated !!

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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 9709
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 01/05/94  4:17p
Subj: Hitachi 3600 cd rom drive               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello,  about five months ago I bought four CDR3500 drives from you (RM
Associates, Inc.).  I was very pleased with the documentation and the drivers
that you put on diskette.  You seem to really know what you are doing when it
comes to Hitachi CD ROM drives.  Maybe you can help me.  We installed Novell
3.12 because it will directly support CD ROM drives; however, it seems that
you have to load a CD ROM driver in order for the server to recognize the CD
ROM card.  Do you know if Hitachi (or anyone else) makes a Novell 3.12 driver
for the Hitachi/Todd CD-IFI8-S (8 bit) card?  Isn't there a 16 bit card for
the Hitachi 3500/3600 series?  Do you know the 16 bit part number?  Do you
know if Hitachi or anyone else makes a Novell 3.12 driver for the Hitachi 16
bit card?  Thanks in advance for your help.  I would also like to order eight
of your CDR3600 drives and several eight drive cases with power supplies.  You
can reach me by voice at 804/340-9138.
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From: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                       Number: 9710
  To: JEFF DOVE                                Date: 01/05/94 10:17p
Subj: Re: Garage Sale (or Trade)...           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JD> HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT FOR THE MODEM LEAVE ME A MESSAGE
JD> 

Well, Jeff, thanks for the note. There are 3 modems that are still open for
offers. You can make on offer on any of them you'd like.

GK

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 9711
  To: RICHARD ANDERSON                         Date: 01/06/94 11:52a
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RA>I have the following Cd's for sale or trade.
RA>RBBS in a Box version 3.1
RA>The New Grolier Encyclopedia 1991
RA>Microsoft Bookshelf
RA>Sony, Lanuages of the World
RA>Sony, Mixed up Mother Goose (2 ea.)
RA>Sony' Microsoft Bookshelf 1991
RA>Sony, Compton's Encyclopeida 1991

   I'll offer $75 for the whole package above.

   Or let me know what you want for each
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Registered Symantec Q&A Consultant


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From: ANDY PLANK                             Number: 9712
  To: JOSH                                     Date: 01/04/94  5:15p
Subj: Re: ***Wanted!***                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Microsoft Bookshelf '92 and I might be willing to sell it. How much will
you give me for it???? I live in Warsaw In. I also have Wing Commander II
Deluxe Special edition with Special misions 1 and 2 and the speech accessory
for $40 dollars for the cd rom. It retails for $79 dollars so it is good deal.
Write me back and tell me how much you will give me for that bookshelf disc.
THANKS!!!!

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From: CLIF DANIEL                            Number: 9713
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/06/94  9:16p
Subj: Bookshelf/Encarta                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Would like to find copies of MS Bookshelf MPC ( Windows ) as well as
MS Encarta. Looking for a fair deal on new and or used.    
  
                            Thanks
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From: JOHN MAR                               Number: 9714
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/06/94 11:51p
Subj: looking for a CD ROM DRIVE KIT          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Howdy I would appreciate some help for looking for a CD ROM drive.  My
specificatons for the drive is that it comes with everything not just the bare
drive has a data transfer rate of around 350kb to 450kb, I plan tho use the
drive as a multi-media device, so it should be able to use the 8 bit sound card
I have.  I am shopping around alot, but I would appreciate any advice or
opinions that any of you have on any CD ROM drives that are out in the market. 
Any advice would be appreciated.

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From: LOUIS GHINIS                           Number: 9715
  To: L RICHARD JOHNSON                        Date: 01/05/94 10:58p
Subj: Refund                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> So far you have not been so good at keeping your word as to when
-> things will happen. I will send the drives when you send a refund.
-> They don't work and are of no use to me so I have no reason to keep
-> them. I take the chance of being

   I have a solution to your problem with the dealer.  Ship your drive
to him COD for the cash amount that he owes you back.  This way the
dealer will know he has got his drive back and shipped out the money and
that you got your money and shipped backed the drive.  Its just a
suggestion.  However if he doesn't pay the cod amount and tells the mail
man to send it back where it came from you will have proof that he
refused to pay the cod for the refund of your drive.

Louis
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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 9716
  To: RICK PEDLEY                              Date: 01/04/94  1:31a
Subj: Battle chess enh                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Then it happened......->  I'll take it if it's available. Where do I send 
a check?

JT>I still have it and my address is:

JT>Jay Taylor
JT>6700 W Old Shakopee Rd #205
JT>Bloomington, Mn 55438

RPSo I take it you didn't get my netmail? :-(

  SOrry if I jumped in the middle, Rick. You can take it if you like.
 You asked first:)
                         Mike

Mike
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From: LOUIS GHINIS                           Number: 9717
  To: L RICHARD JOHNSON                        Date: 01/05/94 10:59p
Subj: Refund                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> So far you have not been so good at keeping your word as to when
-> things will happen. I will send the drives when you send a refund.
-> They don't work and are of no use to me so I have no reason to keep
-> them. I take the chance of being

   I have a solution to your problem with the dealer.  Ship your drive
to him COD for the cash amount that he owes you back.  This way the
dealer will know he has got his drive back and shipped out the money and
that you got your money and shipped backed the drive.  Its just a
suggestion.  However if he doesn't pay the cod amount and tells the mail
man to send it back where it came from you will have proof that he
refused to pay the cod for the refund of your drive.  Otherwise your not
going to get anywhere with him.

Louis
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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 9718
  To: JOYCE ZWEEDYK                            Date: 01/05/94  9:12p
Subj: Carmen san diego                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Carmen San Diego is not a disk, it's a CD
the only documentation is the little booklet that comes with it. It is all you
need though!
If still interested leave mail and we will get something together.

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From: JASON WAGNER                           Number: 9719
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/04/94  2:20a
Subj: CD Reviews...                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Everyone!

I was wondering if anyone can recommend a *CHEAP* magazine or newletter
that is published monthly that reviews CD's....  Like the PC Shopper
game reviews.... woudl show pictures of the CD's (games, etc.) and give
ratings.... I see all these games I've never heard of on CD and wonder
what the look like and how they rate.  I just don't want to buy blindly
based on some description in a catalog... looking for actual footage from 
the ROM.

Thanks!

Jason


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From: JASON WAGNER                           Number: 9720
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 01/04/94  2:26a
Subj: cdrom discs for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DC> Dune..Enhanced,original music score,best fantasy adventure game..38.95
 
     Do you (or anyone) know if this includes the ORIGINAL Soundtrack
     form the movie?  I don't want some cheap SB immitation... I am looking
     for any disc that contains the original soundtrack to Dune... Anyone
     know where I can get it on audio CD if its not on the game disc?

 DC> Gifs Galore...rated G-6,000+ GIF images-wide variety.............14.50

     Are there Ray-Traced / Rendered GIFs on this disc?  If so, I am 
     definetely interested!

     Thanks,
     Jason


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From: JASON WAGNER                           Number: 9721
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 01/04/94  2:31a
Subj: cdrom discs for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DC> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PRODUCT ORDERS ONLY*NO
 DC> Questions/No * PCJ Computing- December 24,1993 * Catalogs/No Order
 DC> Stats-800-547-7817 * We try to meet all competition. *
 DC> Visa/MC/Amx/Disc/Dinrs/Cart/Chek/COD * No surcharges. Full catalog
 DC> with* For QUESTIONS/CATALOGS/ORDER STATUS * descriptions on
 DC> BBS-PCJCDS.ZIP. *  (No Exceptions) (9-7) 615-339-0235 * No CODs on
 DC> drives.  Most titles *   BBS HST/14400  615-4782890/4791047 * in stock.
 DC> Shipping not included *   Compuserve          - 71754,3514 * * * * * *
 DC> * * * * * * * * *  Internet-Doug.Carpenter@Junction.Cld9.Com 

   Doug,

   I am very, very interested in ordering from your organization.  I must
   say that you have some of the best prices I've seen here!  I would really
   be interested in seeing a catalog, too.  If you have a catalog available,
   please send me one at your convenience.

   Thank you,
   
   Jason Wagner
   3726 Elder Court
   Sierra Vista, Az
   85635


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From: JASON WAGNER                           Number: 9722
  To: PHIL TREVORROW                           Date: 01/04/94  2:36a
Subj: Iron helix & criticl path               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Phil Trevorrow to Clifford Louie <=-

 PT> I have Iron Helix. I didn't like the game. The graphics and sound
 PT> were outstanding, but game play sucked. You always get killed about 10
 PT> or 15 minutes into the game. I am real disappointed. 

  Phil,
    Sorry to butt in here, but I almost ordered Iron Helix today....

    Before I do, I was wondering about this message.  Is the game that
    much of a challenge, or is it just plain impossible?  I it absolutely
    unbeatable, or is it just really, really hard? <G>

    Thanks!
    Jason


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9723
  To: EUGENE BAUGUESS                          Date: 01/06/94  3:37a
Subj: Re: Pioneer 6 CD-Changer Wanted         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 3 Jan 94 11:38pm, Eugene Bauguess wrote to Boris Osadciw:

>>    I am looking to buy another Pioneer changer, I am running a 
>>    DRM604X and need the price on a DRM600 or DRM604X. Need to 
>>    know what comes with the drive and need the price on the cable 
>>    it takes to hook the drive to the one I have.


Eugene, our current price on the 604X is $1069. for the bare unit w/o
controller. As for the cable and controller price, I would ask that you
call us at 800-243-0517 and we'll be happy to discuss a package deal
with you.

Looking to hear from you soon....

Boris Osadciw

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From: VIC HLUSHAK                            Number: 9724
  To: BOB DAMATO                               Date: 01/05/94  3:13p
Subj: Re: BB1                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> How much you looking to get?

Well, don't really know but some crazy prices have been posted here. 

TTYL

:-) Vic

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From: ROBERT BRIGGS                          Number: 9725
  To: GARY HEDBERG                             Date: 01/05/94  8:08p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GH>Wondered what happened to you! Sorry to say I no longer have the Fun-N-
GH>Games CD I bought from you. Sold it a while back. Welcome back to
GH>Sysoping

Thanks - been out of things for a while.  Played beach bum in Hawaii for
several months, then ended up in New Orleans playing Windows programmer.

I'll be back at it soon!

Sorry to hear that you sold the CD.  Wish I hadn't sold them all, I desperately
want one for MY system <sigh>....

===Bob Briggs

 * SLMR 2.1a * No, you -CAN'T- pay your phone bill at Taco Bell


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From: JASON KOLLER                           Number: 9726
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/05/94  8:55p
Subj: CDROM/Printer/Mice                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Everybody!  Have a couple things to sell -

1 - Citizen GSX-140 Color Printer.  Comes complete with installed color
    package, ribbon, manual, everything.  Prints perfectly, used about
    2-3 years.  Looks pretty good on the outside.  24-pin.  Cheapest
    price I have found for this printer in Computer Shopper was $400.
    I will sell it for $175 + shipping/negotiable.

2 - Mice.  First one is a Royal Mouse, never used, looks EXCELLENT!
    Second one is an info mouse.  Good for an entry level mouse.
    $10 for Royal, $5 for info + shipping.  Free mouse pad with each
    one.  Firm.

1 - Talon CM255 CD-ROM Drive.  350ms access time.  Supports CDROM discs
    and Music CD's.  Included discs: A Line In The Sand, National
    Parks, and The Original Shareware 1992.  Also includes a 3.5" disk
    of needed drivers, will port over to 5.25".  Includes controller card,
    with sound output on the back.  Works excellent.  This is an internal
    drive.  Used 7 months.
    $140 + shipping/negotiable.

Let me know with a reply in this echo, or the addresses in the tagline.
Voice number is (503)393-8315.  Thanks!

-Jason, ->1494 - RIME, 1:3406/20 - FIDO Netmail, 13:651/2 - SBCnet
Sysop, Terminal Velocity
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From: HOWARD ONEIL                           Number: 9727
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/05/94  9:45a
Subj: Trade Wanted                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       The following prices are based according to hardware seen on 
      ECHO and will be         Traded on a FIRST COME, FIRST SERVED  
      basis.  All are GUARENTEED AGAINST D.O.A. or will be REPLACED. 
  
 - HARD DRIVES -   SPEED  TYPE  CAP.   HEIGHT    CONDITION    PRICE 
  
 - Quantity -               MANUFACTURED BY SEAGATE 
                                                                    
    (1) : ST-1144A 14ms  IDE 130.0 meg 3-1/2"  No Bad Sect. 
  
    (1) : ST-296N  28ms  SCSI 85.0 meg  1/2    No Bad Sect. 
  
    (2) : ST-251-1 28ms   MFM 42.4 meg  1/2    Good !    
  
    (2) : ST-238R   "?"   RLL 32.0 meg  1/2    GOOD !   
  
 - Quantity -             MANUFACTURED BY CDC (SEAGATE) 
  
    (2) : CDC-        MFM/RLL 40/65 meg Full   GOOD !    
  
----- I would PREFER TRADING ANY of the ABOVE as follows for: ------ 
                                                                     
 * Panasonic, Texel, Mitshumi, Sony, or  Nec  Photo Compatible CDROM 
 
  E-Mail me here. I CAN'T make Long Distance calls, so don't request 
that I do so! NOTHING is cast in stone, and if the QUANTITY of items that you
have is less than that posted,  WORKING & REASONABLE enough to merit
consideration, MAKE ME AN OFFER!  I will answer those which I'm interested in
or requested to reply back to.                     
                                                                     
 Howard O' 

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From: JAYSON NOTARO                          Number: 9728
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/04/94 10:39p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Trust me Borris.....I did. I'd rather save $100 any day pal, than buy a
crappier drive for more money.

                        Jayson


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From: CANDY BAUMAN                           Number: 9729
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/05/94 12:20p
Subj: I need Adult cd-rom disk                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi

  Does anybody know where i can get some adult stuff on cd-rom?
and I want to know what kind of cd-rom is good to get .. I am running
a bbs so i need a cd-rom really for that ... I am new on this computer
stuff still ....

   Candy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 9730
  To: MIKE STEFFEN                             Date: 01/05/94  2:54p
Subj: Re: Adult CD trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MS> BY: Randy Neuner (1:309/71)

 MS> I've got Storm II or the new APL disc.
 MS> Will trade either for Physical Therapy.

The Storm II sounds good to me. How do you wnat to do the trade?
1-602-459-3480 voice

Randy



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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 9731
  To: BORIS OSADIC                             Date: 01/05/94  2:59p
Subj: CD received                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris, rec the Cream of Crop II cd.  Thanks for the prompt service and
it is already on-line.

Randy Neuner

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From: ANTHONY FURGISON                       Number: 9732
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/05/94  4:50p
Subj: HITACHI CDROMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for a couple of used Hitachi roms in good working condition. With or
without the card. Older 3500 models OK have 6 of them would like 2 more.
Contact me here or reply to The Space Station BBS 914-292-0670 or FidoNet
1:272/111.

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From: RICK WICKER                            Number: 9733
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/04/94 11:51p
Subj: Amiga Grolier's Encyclopedia Wanted     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Where might I buy the Grolier's Encyclopedia for the Amiga?

Do any of you folks that sell CD's have this or can you get it?

Or has anyone else seen it advertised anywhere?

Rick Wicker
 

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9734
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/06/94  6:27a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9735
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/06/94  6:27a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
                        ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $110.00 30day warrantee
Refurbished  NEC Model 36       CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee

                    ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee

                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
14.4 Power supply..................$10.00 ea.
external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
Shipping (drives)$25.00 for up to 2 drives,$40.00 for 3-4 drives.

                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
offering all
refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit, to be
shipped
upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30 days for
receipt of
your refurbished drive.

                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariat.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: RAY DENALLI                            Number: 9736
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/06/94  6:45a
Subj: FLORIDA STATUTES                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone know where I can find a copy or copies of the Florida Statutes on
CD and about what the price might be? Thanks.

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From: JOYCE ZWEEDYK                          Number: 9737
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/05/94  9:49p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Send a catalog to:

Joyce Zweedyk
5401 Dorchester
Kalamazoo, MI  49001

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From: JOYCE ZWEEDYK                          Number: 9738
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/05/94  9:53p
Subj: CATALOG                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Boris Osadciw to All dated 01-03-94 ***
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=[ F R E E   C A T A L O G ]=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


Please send me a copy of your catalog


Joyce Zweedyk
5401 Dorchester
Kalamazoo, MI  49001

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From: MIKE BRITT                             Number: 9739
  To: RAY MATTHEWS                             Date: 01/07/94  7:29a
Subj: Re: Flame? Anybody Seen It??            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RM>     Just wondering if anybody has tried to order this new 
 RM> Flame disc, and if so, have they actually received it. I 
 RM> called in a COD order about 3 weeks ago, and never heard 
 RM> anything since.

     I had 2 customers who wanted them and recv'd both of them with a slight
delay due to Christmas. No problems reported.

                                                  Mike

Sphinx EM/v5.0 * DANGER! DANGER! Computer Store Ahead, Hide Wallet.

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From: MARK DUDLEY                            Number: 9740
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 01/06/94  5:56a
Subj: Re: BBS Limitation?                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL> of file areas to be listed on demand.  136 different file areas is 
JL> definitely excessive, especially when some of them only have one file 

That sounds an awefull lot like one of those source code cd-roms...

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From: PAUL HAIGH                             Number: 9741
  To: CHUCK ADAMS                              Date: 01/05/94 11:29p
Subj: External cd-rom kit                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Chuck Adams to All <=-

 CA> Anybody know where I can get a kit to mount my CD-Rom externally?

If you have an internal CDROM unit, that you need to mount in an external
case, I have one that I'll sell you for $35.00 plus $5.00 shipping (prepaid).

It's a dual-bay enternal case, for mounting up to 2 5.25" drives.  It has
it's own power supply, and activity light.  

If interested, call me at (904) 892-8065 daytime or (904) 892-2036 nights.
Prices are firm, allow 7-10 days for personal checks to clear.

Walton County Public Safety
c/o Paul Haigh
75 S. Davis Lane
DeFuniak Springs, FL 32433

Payable to 'Paul Haigh'


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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 9742
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/06/94  6:37p
Subj: CD-ROM Software Elimination             Refer: NONE
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                   CMS SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING 
                         P.O. BOX 165 
                     SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
                         812-442-0110 
 
                      Updated 12-27-1993 
 
Its a fact.  CMS is overstocked and to make room for the 
upcomming remodeling and expansion of CMS Software we MUST 
LIQUIDATE the following inventory.  Grab any of the following 
discs for $15 each, unless otherwise noted, while supplies last. 
Buy 7 and select one FREE.  We will hold nothing back until this 
inventory is GONE.  One of some titles and hundreds of others 
but it ALL must go.  Some discs are used and most are new but 
all are guaranteed against defects.  Dealers call now for bulk 
pricing.  You may grab as many as you like and pay only $5 
shipping.  You may place your order on Mastercard or Visa or we 
will ship your order COD for $5.00 additional.  You may mail 
your order with a personal check or money order to the address 
at the top of this ad. 
 
Barney Bear Goes to School      Physical Therapy Adult ($20) 
Sophisticated Sante Fe          1993 Multi-Media Bookshelf ($35) 
Barney Bear Goes to Space       Selectware Software 
TaxPrep 
Magnum One Shareware 
American Business Phone Book    Encarta 1994 ($45) 
FontMaster                      Software Toolworks Enyc. 1.5 ($30) 
LaserTax On CD-ROM              Sherlock Holmes Complete 
Clipart Goliath                 Bibles & Religion 
                                CIA World Factbook 
Black Box Shareware #4          Black Box Shareware #5 
Black Box Shareware #6 
Scary Poems For Rotton Kids     Career Opportunities 
Dictionaries & Languages        World Atlas 2.0 
2000 Pictures CD-ROM            Random House Dictionary ($30) 
                                So Much Shareware #2 
Software Treasure Chest         How CD-ROMS Are Made 
PC Gameroom 
DataBase Made Easy 
Super CD W/Super BBS 
Golden Immortal 
Storm #2 ($20)                  Storm #3 ($20) 
The CD ROM Collection           Fightsmart 
Shakespeare 
Adult Reference Library ($25) 
Middle East Diary               Time Almanac 
Quick Art Clipart               Front Page News 
Between Heaven & Hell II 
Ham Radio Shareware             Danger Hot Stuff 
Phoenix Phun & Games            Brain Drain Games 
Oldies But Goodies Games        Bed & Breakfast Photo Tour 
Mirror Mirror                   Reel Clips 
Futura Games                    Let's Play (Games) 
Variety Store (Games)           The Complete Bookshop 
Digital Dreams #2 Adult ($25) 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 9743
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/06/94  6:37p
Subj: CMS CD-ROM Discs                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
 
For the detailed file listing of any of these CDs call the CMS 
support BBS at 812-898-2561.  Available first call.  HST 14,400 
online.  Look in file area #3. 
 
                         CMS CD-ROMS 
-------------------------------------------------------------- 
                     ShareWare OnLine #2 
 
This CD-ROM is 625+ MEGS of only the latest shareware!  This CD 
contains only QUALITY programs and comes with an updated file 
retrieval system.  This disc also contains file description 
formats for virtually every BBS software package on the market 
today!  This collection is updated about every 6 months.  Your 
satisfaction is guaranteed!  $29.95 
 
                   The GameWare Collection 
 
This disc contains around 6,500 shareware games on one CD-ROM! 
This is by far the LARGEST collection of PC games ever assembled 
with arcade games, board games, games for CGA, EGA, and VGA, & 
SVGA text games, sound blaster shoot'em ups, & many more!  As a 
bonus we have included 2,100 color ANSI screens for use on your 
BBS or to use as a screen saver!  This is the  most unique and 
exciting entertainment CD-ROM available today.  Quantities 
limited.  Order yours today.  $29.95   Now Shipping 
 
                  The SoundWare Collection 
 
"The SoundWare Collection" contains nearly 10,000 music & sound 
files for your sound card!  Included on this disc are .CMF, 
.CMS, .MOD, .MID, .ROL, .SND, .VOC, and .WAV files.  These files 
are ready to be played through your sound card with no modification. 
Many custom files are included which are found on no other CD-ROM 
disc. The files contained on "The SoundWare Collection" are not 
archived.  The files may be played directly from the CD-ROM saving 
you time and space on your hard disk. If you have or plan to 
purchase a sound card this disc is a MUST!  $29.95  Now Shipping! 
 
              The User's Choice Windows Archive 
 
"The User's Choice" Windows (TM) archive contains over 5,500 
files just for the Windows operating system.  This is the 
LARGEST collection of Windows related software on CD-ROM you can 
buy today.  This disc contains 675 MEGABYTES of programs and 
supporting software!  On this disc you will find utility 
software, games, sounds for Windows, educational software, video 
and printer drivers, fonts, and much more!  If you use the 
Windows operating system this is the ULTIMATE disc for you. 
100% BBS ready.  $29.95   Now Shipping! 
 
                  The Software Treasure Chest 
 
"The Software Treasure Chest" is an excellent collection of 
software on CD-ROM.  This disc is filled with 675 MEGS with all 
kinds of software ranging from games to utilities.  Windows 
software, fonts, graphics, educational software, clipart, and 
MUCH more.  This disc is fully BBS ready with file descriptions 
in several formats for use on virtually all kinds of BBS 
software.  Excellent file retrieval software is also included 
for the end users.  $29.95   Now Shipping! 
 
                     The Software Tool Chest 
 
The Software Tool Chest is a huge collection of software tools. 
On this disc you will find thousands of utility programs. Any- 
thing from DOS and Windows utilities to Graphics and Music & 
Sound Utilities.  Some other topics include Virus Protection, 
tons of Networking utilities, Communication programs, The LINUX 
Operating System, The OS/2 Operating System, Printing utilities, 
Compression Programs and utilities, and so much more.  Over 5,000 
programs totaling over 600 MEGABYTES!  $29.95  Shipping 01-17-93. 
 
                       A.P.L. Volume #1 
 
The "A)dult P)icture L)ibrary" is a GIANT collection of adult 
GIF pictures, GL movies, DL movies, and FLI animation.  This 
disc is EXPLODING with 689 MEGS of adult software!  All high 
resolution scans with very few pictures less than 100,000 bytes 
in size.  This disc contains 3,112 GIFS, 168 GL movies, 90 DL 
movies, 84 FLI movies, and 52 programs for viewing all the 
software on the disc.  An excellent new disc of adult software. 
Available 11-24-1993.  $37.95.  Must be age 21+ 
 
Special: Get all 7 discs for only $159.95!  Only $22.85 each! 
 
    CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
 
Watch for future CD-ROM releases from CMS Software!  $5.00 
standard shipping. Send all orders to the address listed above. 
CMS accepts Visa, Mastercard, check, COD, and money orders. 
Prices listed reflect a 3% discount for cash.  Dealers call for 
wholesale.  PRODUCERS/AUTHORS: Trade your titles for ours! 
Telephone: 812-442-0110 9 AM to 9 PM Indiana time. 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 9744
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/06/94  6:37p
Subj: CD-ROM Software Bundles                 Refer: NONE
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Look below for some great CD-ROM Software Bundles from CMS. 
All discs are IN STOCK ready for shipment. 
 
Software Tool Chest   $29.95   Physical Therapy Adult   - $29.95 
ShareWare OnLine #2 - $39.95   Adult Reference Library  - $29.95 
GameWare Collection - $29.95   SoundWare Collection     - $39.95 
Storm-2 Adult       - $22.95   Storm-3 Adult            - $24.95 
Digital Dreams Adult- $24.95   A.P.L. Adult             - $37.95 
User's Choice Windows $29.95   Swimwear                 - $22.95 
Digital Dreams 2    - $29.95   Software Treasure Chest  - $24.95 
 
User's Choice Windows          SoundWare Collection 
ShareWare OnLine #2            GameWare Collection 
    $49.95                         $49.95 
 
ShareWare OnLine #2            Storm-3 Adult 
SoundWare Collection           A.P.L. Adult 
GameWare Collection            Adult Reference Library 
User's Choice Windows              $59.95 
Software Treasure Chest 
A.P.L. Adult 
    $149.95 
                               User's Choice Windows 
Software Treasure Chest        ShareWare OnLine #2 
ShareWare OnLine #2            A.P.L. Adult 
    $44.95                     Storm-2 
                                   $79.95 
 
Storm-2 Adult                  Storm-2 Adult 
Storm-3 Adult                  Storm-3 Adult 
    $39.95                     A.P.L. Adult 
                                   $59.95 
 
Adult Reference Library        A.P.L. Adult 
Storm-2 Adult                  Physical Therapy Adult 
Physical Therapy Adult             $49.95 
    $69.95 
                               ShareWare OnLine #2 
A.P.L./User's Choice           A.P.L. Adult 
    $44.95                         $44.95 
 
CMS accepts Visa & Mastercard, check, M.O., and COD orders. 
$5.00 standard shipping on any order.  These prices are in 
effect for a short time only.  Get your orders sent TODAY! 
CMS does accept your trades!  PUBLISHERS: Call us to trade 
your titles for ours! 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
TELEPHONE: 812-442-0110 
 
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From: T. CURTIS                              Number: 9745
  To: BLAKE BARR                               Date: 01/05/94 11:21p
Subj: Man Enough                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Blake!

21 Dec 93, Blake Barr writes to All:

 BB> Does anybody have the CD disc "Man Enough"? If so, how much is it.. (For
 BB> those of you not knowing what I am talking about, it's an interactive
 BB> game...)

  I have it. I'm selling it or trading it.. 2 CD's.. all box, dox, and
registration card.. I'd like around $45..

T.

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From: AMY MOODY                              Number: 9746
  To: JEFF MEUNIER                             Date: 01/05/94  5:50p
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JM>AM>  #7.  A Line in the Sand :
JM>AM> Commemorating The U.S. Marine Corps participation in
JM>AM> Operations Desert Shield  and Desert Storm      $5.00

JM> I might be interested in this, what is it about?

Hi Jeff,
   It's an overview of all operations the Marine Corps were involved in during
those actions.  It was created by the Marine Corps. Central Design and
Programming Division.  It has pull down menus and tons of information complete
with dates and names.  It's very interesting and makes a great reference tool.

Hope this helps....

  Amy

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From: AMY MOODY                              Number: 9747
  To: LOUIS DIGGS                              Date: 01/05/94 10:31p
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Amy, I'm quite interested in several of your CD-ROM disks, but can
-> you tell me  which are compatable with a Macintosh.
-> Thanks for your reply

Sorry Louis, none of them are MacIntosh compatible.

SEEYA!
  Amy

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From: JOHN RUIZ                              Number: 9748
  To: MICHAEL GARCIA                           Date: 01/03/94  4:01p
Subj: Re: Games For Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >JR>
  >JR>                  John Ruiz 206-226-2018 Renton Washington
  >To whom ever is trying to sell these DOS games...I would be interested in
  >buying the Lemmings games. pls get back to me..
 
MG>--- FreeMail/QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Bet
  > * Origin: The Warrior's Path  ZyXEL 16800 v32b v42b 915-659-2424 (1:383/242
 
        Hi Mike .... What can I do for you??? Still have the lemmings
        games left everything else on hold for sale or has been sold.
        Get back to me or call the number above.   Thanks  John
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From: DAVID WONG                             Number: 9749
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/04/94 11:43p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
JR>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
JR>If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
JR>We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
JR>CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
JR>        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
JR>    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
JR>Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
JR>P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
JR>Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

Hi Joe,

I'd like a copy of your catalog sent to: David Wong
                                         8621 S. 235th St. #CC-103
                                         Kent, Wa. 98031

Thanks alot!


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From: DAN RIBBLE                             Number: 9750
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/02/94  8:12p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR=*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
  =For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
  =If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
  =We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
  =CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
  =        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
  =    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
  =Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
  =P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
  =Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<



Please send a copy to Dan Ribble
                      4221 Xerxes Ave S.
                      Minneapolis, mn  55410

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From: JAY TAYLOR                             Number: 9751
  To: RICK PEDLEY                              Date: 01/06/94  1:05p
Subj: Battle chess enh                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> ->  I'll take it if it's available. Where do I send a check?
->
-> JT>I still have it and my address is:
->
-> JT>Jay Taylor
-> JT>6700 W Old Shakopee Rd #205
-> JT>Bloomington, Mn 55438
->
-> So I take it you didn't get my netmail? :-(

No I didn't get the netmail.  What did you have to say?  I take it that
you don't want it anymore...


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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 9752
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/05/94  6:38p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
JR>If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.

Shane Snyder
286 Main St. Apt#3
Greenville, PA  16125

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From: JESSE SCHMELZER                        Number: 9753
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 01/06/94  2:02p
Subj: Re: Hitachi CDR-3600                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message on <02-Jan-94 21:27:36> Doug Carpenter (1:362/119) wrote:

 MB>> We DO accept VISA, Mastercard, Carte Blanche and Diners club without
 MB>> any
 MB>> surcharge, which is something the BARGAIN BASEMENT WHOLESALERS are
 MB>> not

 DC> Where's the American Express??? <g>

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 DC> (1:362/119)

I guess he left Home With out it <g>

 Jesse

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From: JERRY CORNELIUS                        Number: 9754
  To: JAMES PARKER                             Date: 01/05/94  1:19p
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JP> Now that I know what to get, where can I get it, and how much will it
JP>cost? Thanks for the info!

This is a good place to keep your eyes open.  The prices here are
usually a bit lower than locally in the physical world.  When comparing,
don't forget to ad shipping and subtract state sales tax.

Prices for the material you're interested in range from an unusual low
of $24 to a normal of around $35-40, and a few high (rare, deviant) at
$80+.  I went to a store here once where they were actually asking the
list price of $120 on an adult disc -- the same disc was on here for
$45.   Also, get as many catalogues as you can.  There was a place in
Massachusetts called Crazy Ernie's, but I haven't had a catalogue from
them in a while.  They consistantly undercut the dealers in here
(CD_SALE & CDROM) while I got their pamphlet.

Good luck.

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From: RICHARD PEEK                           Number: 9755
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/06/94 11:40a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
JR>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
JR>If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
JR>We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
JR>CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
JR>        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
JR>    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
JR>Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
JR>P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
JR>Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<
JR>
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JR> * Origin: "If you can't find it, call config.sys!" 216-296-2244 (1:15
JR>

Please send one to:
Rick Peek
104 Buena Vista Cir.
Gadsden, Al. 35901

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From: RICHARD PEEK                           Number: 9756
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/06/94 11:40a
Subj: CD Rom for Trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a CD called Return to the Moon I'd like to trade. It has many space 
pictures and video segments on it and runs under Windows. It also has the 
Lunar Academy game and Lunar lander simulator.I'd like to trade it for 
another CD with music files or perhaps a good game. If interested, leave a 
message here on this echo.

                                       Rick Peek

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 9757
  To: CANDY BAUMAN                             Date: 01/06/94  5:10p
Subj: I need Adult cd-rom disk                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Hi

 >   Does anybody know where i can get some adult stuff on cd-rom?
 > and I want to know what kind of cd-rom is good to get .. I am running
 > a bbs so i need a cd-rom really for that ... I am new on this computer
 > stuff still ....

 >    Candy


Candy,
I suggest Busty Babes II cd, it has excellent legal licesened gifs and also has
shareware throw on it, most if not all the dealers here should carry this disk.

                                    Mike Harris

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 9758
  To: ADAM BRIAND                              Date: 01/06/94  5:01a
Subj: Adult CD Discs for trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AB>I'll trade ya Animation Fantasies 2 for FAO 3.

Adam, sounds good to me.  How do you want to do the trade.  Let me know
or call me voice after 5pm Arizona time at 602-459-3480.

Randy

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From: CHENYU CHIANG                          Number: 9759
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/04/94  9:08a
Subj: !free cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
JR>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
JR>If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
JR>We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
JR>CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
JR>        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
JR>    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
JR>Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
JR>P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
JR>Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<


Please send me a copy of your printed catalog to: Chenyu Chiang 2501 Abuela Pl.
Hacienda Hts, CA 91745

Thank you.
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From: MICHAEL MURPHY                         Number: 9760
  To: ERIC VAN WILTENBURG                      Date: 01/06/94  3:57p
Subj: NO10 Phone                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (04 Jan 94) Eric van Wiltenburg wrote to All...

 Ev> Does anybody know the number where I can reach the Night Owl's
 Ev> Publishers concerning a replacement for NO10 to NO10.1?  It has to be
 Ev> accessable in Canada (British Columbia) please.  Thanks.
 Ev> 
 Ev> Eric.  :-)
 Ev> 

Well, I don't know about it being accessable in Canada, but it's:
Office 716-484-3066
BBS 716-483-3925

Hope this helps!
Michael

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9761
  To: MIKE ROARK                               Date: 01/07/94  1:29a
Subj: Re: HOT CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 4 Jan 94 09:35am, Mike Roark wrote to Boris Osadciw:

>>    Hello Boris!

>>    Monday January 03 1994 01:47, Boris Osadciw wrote to All:

 BO>>             C R E A M     O F     T H E     C R O P    I I


 BO>> DEALERS WELCOME.......      PRICE - $25.

 BO>> ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263   FAX
216-225-6759

 BO>> Boris Osadciw

>>    How about some sort of Mailing address?? There are many of us 
>>    that would like to take advantage of this but the 
>>    international calling costs are a bit much. Thanx

Mike, your welcome to either netmail us direct at the fido address below or
fax us your request at the above number.

Please make sure you provide us with your full and proper mailing address
and voice phone number. As for payment, we accept Visa/MasterCard on
International orders. If you wish to mail in your order, you may do so to
the following:          Consumer's Club International
                        3092 Holly Dr
                        Brunswick, Ohio 44212

Please include $5. additional for Airmail service and insurance.

Hope this helps and we look forward to hearing from you in the near future.



Boris Osadciw

... Xpress Yourself!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9762
  To: RICK PEDLEY                              Date: 01/07/94  1:29a
Subj: Re: New cd's                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 4 Jan 94 11:36am, Rick Pedley wrote to Boris Osadciw:

BO>>Educational Companion - 450+ megs - 3,700+ files - BBS Ready - Loaded with
BO>>                        educational games, tutorials, languages and more !

>>    Boris, do you happen to have a publisher's name and address 
>>    for this disk? I'd like to send them a couple of programs. And 
>>    thanks for your prompt delivery of my order; I've recommended 
>>    you to a couple of other people. 

Rick, netmail us your request to the fidonet address below and we'll provide
you with several authors that would be happy to have your program on thier
cd's

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

... Every Silver lining has a clone around it.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9763
  To: JESSE SCHMELZER                          Date: 01/07/94  1:29a
Subj: Re: Pioneer 6 Cd-Changer Wanted         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 3 Jan 94 01:38am, Jesse Schmelzer wrote to Boris Osadciw:

>>    In a message on <29-Dec-93 03:11:03> Boris Osadciw (1:157/46) 
>>    wrote: 

 BO>> On 26 Dec 93 04:33pm, Jesse Godsey wrote to Jesse Godsey:

 >>>>   Looking for a good price on a new or really good used Pioneer 6
 >>>>   CD-Changer, anyone have any idea where I could pick one up for 
 >>>>   a decent price???

 BO>> We carry them all !! If your interested, please feel free to give us a
 BO>> call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to assist you further.

 BO>> Hope this helps...


 BO>> Boris Osadciw

 BO>> ... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same! --- FMail
 BO>> 0.96â
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>>    When you get the 1804x let me know i would like to get one. 
>>    Also can you mail me your latest Catalog???? never got one 
>>    since i order a while ago. 

New Catalog on it's way to you via netmail Jesse. Look for it in your
inbound area in the AM.

Hope this helps....




Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9764
  To: STEVE KRAISLER                           Date: 01/07/94  1:29a
Subj: Re: MegaMovie&GlobalExplorer            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 4 Jan 94 06:56pm, Steve Kraisler wrote to All:

>>    Looking for best price on Mega Movie Guide and Global Explorer.
>>    Please respond here or SteveBK@bix.com


Mega Movie Guide - $35.
Global Explorer  - $79.

Interested, please feel free to give us a call at 216-225-3263 and
we'll be happy to assist you further.


Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9765
  To: BILL BALDWIN                             Date: 01/07/94  1:29a
Subj: Re: Seeking gif cds                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 4 Jan 94 03:03pm, Bill Baldwin wrote to All:

>>    I am seeking any type of CDs with GIF files.. from mild to 
>>    wild.. Thanks
>>    BB

There's a number of them out there Bill ! When you say from mild to
wild, what are you looking for.

If you'll like us to help, please feel free to give us a call at
216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to assist you in anyway
we can as we carry hundreds of titles.




Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9766
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94  2:00a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       A L L  N E W  C D  "S O  M U C H  M O D E M  M A D N E S S"

   7,200 Files             Over 600+ Megs                BBS Ready
   Rip Graphics - BBS Doors - BBS Programs - Modem Utils - Ham Radio
 Desqview - Ansi Graphics - Programming - OS/2 Communcation - Comm Prgs
 Networking Utils - Netmail Progs - Win Communcation - Transfer Protocol
 and a whole lot more......
                              Price - $25.00

 ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't Read Mail Without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9767
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94  2:00a
Subj: SPECIAL BUNDLE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~[  S P E C I A L  B U N D L E S  ]~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1. Software Vault Gold     2. Night Owl 10.         3. Shareware Online 2
   Software Vault Games       Night Owl Games          Gameware
   Software Vault Windows     Night Owl Graphics       Soundware
   Price - $49.00             Price - $65.00           Price - $49.00

4. Hobbes OS/2 'NOV'       5. Tech Arsenal          6. Pier 3
   Window Users Arch          TechnoTool               Cream Of The Crop II
   Price - $30.00             Price - $30.00           Price - $45.00

   ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUE 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Master Surfer!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9768
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94  2:00a
Subj: HOT CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            C R E A M     O F     T H E     C R O P    I I

OVER 654 MEGS New Shareware   4987 Files Dated '93'  Dup Checked
Virus Checked                 Files.BBS Support      Multi Line Discription
Mouse Support Menu            14Megs Prog Code       Plus MORE !!!
Only 200 prog Older Than April '93' - 10% Dup to NO10, Pier3, Software Gold

DEALERS WELCOME.......      PRICE - $25.

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263   FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... XPRESS - the fastest way to get around the world.
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From: KEITH CRAWFORD                         Number: 9769
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/05/94  9:43a
Subj: Nec Cdr-37                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a friend with a NEC CDR-37 CDROM drive who is looking for an
interface card which will allow him to use the drive with linux.  Has
anybody had any luck trying this?
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From: BRAD WARTMAN                           Number: 9770
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/05/94  5:12p
Subj: Adult CD-ROM discs                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

2 adult CD-ROM disks for sale:

        General Appeal & Nudes

        Perversia Galore

In great condition, with each disk containing over 3,000 images in
BBS-compatible format.  $35 each or both for $65. If interested, please
reply through this echo. For sale to individuals 21 years or older only.


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From: STEPHEN MAXWELL                        Number: 9771
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/04/94  8:35p
Subj: Multidisk CDROM                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-=> Note:
Copied (from: trade) by Stephen Maxwell using timEd.

Hello all!

I am curious if anyone has seen the multidisk (jukebox) cdrom drives for sale,
and if anyone is using such a beast. How much would I pay for one?


Mad Max 
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From: CHRIS CONKLIN                          Number: 9772
  To: KENNETH ROACH                            Date: 01/06/94  6:56p
Subj: JFK CDRom                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Kenneth

  I currently have 3 copies of JFK in stock at $45.00 plus shipping.

Let me know if you would like one, give me a call or leave a post and I'll be
more than happy to get one right out to you!


C-3 Production Systems
PO Box 60144
San Angelo, Tx   76906

915-944-7187   (Evenings are best)

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From: CHRIS CONKLIN                          Number: 9773
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/06/94  7:01p
Subj: Seedy 6-Pac $99                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have two sealed packages left of the Seedy Rom 6 pack.

6 CD ROM disc's full of over 26,000 adult GIF's and hundreds of adult text
files.

When these last two are gone, I'm not going to carry them any longer.

Still only $99.00 and includes free shipping anywhere in the U.S.

I also have one copy of Southern Beauties left for $35.00

Then we will be out of the Adult CD ROM business and concentrate on other CD
ROM products.....

Give me a call or post if you are interested.

C-3 Production Systems
PO Box 60144
San Angelo, Tx   76906

915-944-7187    (Evenings are best)


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From: SUE KAMALO                             Number: 9774
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 01/05/94 11:41p
Subj: Night owl 10.1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MA> The file names are SPORT21C.zip  SF2_UP.zip... give me a call if you
 MA> need to Sue... 1-800-289-1ROM.
Thank you, Mark.  I guess by the subject line I have the right rom!!  BTW, the
800 number doesn't work in Hawaii!!!!  :)

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From: DARREL FARRIS                          Number: 9775
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 01/06/94 10:02p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Catalog                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send me a copy of your catalog. I am interested in EVERYTHING!!!
Also, any other vendors reading this, please send me one of your catalogs, 
too. Thank you all!

Darrel Farris
3504 Hero Dr.
Gretna, LA 70053-7616

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 9776
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/06/94  7:46p
Subj: Lights Out                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Originally from Manny Gonzalez
Originally in Young Adult Forum


       *** R E A D   T H I S   A N D   S H A R E   W I T H   A L L ***

                                   12/11/93


  We have been made aware of a prominent situation presently occuring
  in Virginia, Los Angeles, Chicago, Baltimore and now in New York.
  Please take the time to read this message and inform your family
  members and friends. This awareness and precaution is important for
  both drivers and passengers, whether at home or traveling on business
  or pleasure.

  There is a new gang initiation. This new initiation of murder is
  brought about by gang members driving around with their car lights
  off. When you flash your lights to signal them that their lights are
  out the gang members take it literally as "lights out", so they follow
  you to your destination and _KILL YOU_!!! That's their initiation.

  Several families have already fallen victim to this initiation ritual
  in the St. Louis and Chicago areas.

  This information should be given widespread distribution on your
  respective territories and posted on all bulletin boards. _Bewareand
  inform your famiies and friends_. _Do not flash your car lights for
  anyone_.

  The above information was furnished by the Illinois State Police
  Department.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 9777
  To: ROBERT MOORE                             Date: 01/07/94  5:58p
Subj: Hitachi 3600 cd rom drive               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Robert   Moore   wrote   in  a   message   to    Terry    Blount: RM> order
for the server to recognize the  CD  ROM  card.    Do  you
RM> know if Hitachi (or anyone else)  makes  a  Novell  3.12  driver
RM> for the Hitachi/Todd CD-IFI8-S (8 bit) card?

 CdLanX.zip  is the Novel  equivalent  of  Mscdex.  It  allows  CD
 access   from   Workstations    on   a    peer-to-peer    format.

 This file is available on the  Shareware  Studio  disk  vol  III.

RM> Isn't there a
RM> 16 bit card for the Hitachi 3500/3600 series?

 Don't know but if you  call  Todd  enterprises  at   718-343-1040
 they would know.

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 9778
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 01/06/94  8:39a
Subj: Re: Montg vs Noga vs Richard            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <01-03-94 18:46> Michael Benge wrote:

MB>>  LN>    We have asked on more then one occasion to have this civil
MB>>  LN> matter involving FLD removed from this forum. We feel David van

MB>> You need character witnesses?  Those of us that follow this echo know
MB>> who is the villain.  We are behind you all the way.

Sure feels like it's getting to that point :) Thanks for the support !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 9779
  To: ADAM BRIAND                              Date: 01/06/94  8:41a
Subj: Bb                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <01-03-94 22:17> Adam Briand wrote:

AB>>    > The Women on Wheels will be another series disc's just like
AB>>    > the BB series, that I know :)

AB>> Are any of your future disks going to include 24-bit pictures as well
AB>> as
AB>> 256 color ones?  It's a great way to fill up the extra 200+ megs of

No, we are sticking withe the 1024x768 and the 800X600, and we will not be
including any more text stories or shareware--Perhaps, in time we may decide to
go 24-bit, but it would be to ime consuming to dupe out the slides, and we have
10 projects to get out this year :)

Thanks for asking !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 9780
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 01/06/94  9:08a
Subj: Re: Montgomery vs noga et al            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Jerry Murphy <01-04-94 00:31> Daniel Hagan wrote:

DH>> I didn't see the first part of this thread...but if the Noga disks
DH>> are using VPIC as an active viewer (i.e. setup as the frontend), he
DH>> ought to get some reimbursement.

This civil matter is not a "Noga" issue, there are other parties involved. This
matter is in Federal Court, and I wish this thread to be discontinued here
because I will not be tried and convicted in the on-line environment.
NO member of the echo have all the case facts, and until that occurs, it is
unnecessary that I be subjected to comments insinuating I committed a wrong
doing or acted alone. The jury will decide the case and take the appropriate
action to decide "WHO" was actually at fault. Just wanted you to know, I have
been targeted, but that does not mean I will take the fall.
So, it would be in the best interest to all those in this echo, to drop this
thread, out of respect to my rights, and let the courts handle this case.

Don't mean to sound like I am hopping your back, it's just that this case is
not an Open/Closed case--There are alot of extinuating circumstances here, and
we are fighting this all the way for no other reason but to put this case in
perspective--So, I resent any discussions of this case here, and I resent any
implications that I committed the wrong doing personally.

EOT.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: BYRON KROHN                            Number: 9781
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 01/03/94  4:39p
Subj: cdrom discs for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ref: UR 1/1/94 (12:00) Part 3 of 5:

Int: Is your Microsoft Works at $36.95 the 1994 version? If it is, I'll 
swing, tell me how to buy!   Byron--

___
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From: ALLEN DIETZ                            Number: 9782
  To: LOUIS DIGGS                              Date: 01/05/94  5:43a
Subj: Used CD-ROM discs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LD>Allen, I'm interested in a couple of your discs, the
LD>Wildcat Gold and the Bible, but can you tell me if they
LD>are compatable with my Macintosh?

Louis, both the Wildcat Gold and the Bible discs are MS-DOS discs.
The "Learn to Speak Spanish" disc is DOS/MAC, but someone has spoken
for it already.  Sorry.

Allen

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 9783
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/07/94  5:36a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <06 Jan 94  06:27:51>, Joe Rinehart (1:157/479) writes:

 >Refurbished  NEC Model 36       CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee
I have one of these drives that I am having problems with, it is still in 
warranty but I lost the paperwork (not your problem <grin>) what do ya charge 
to repair these? 

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9784
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94  7:13a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9785
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94  7:13a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
                        ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $110.00 30day warrantee
Refurbished  NEC Model 36       CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee

                    ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee

                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
14.4 Power supply..................$10.00 ea.
external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
Shipping (drives)$25.00 for up to 2 drives,$40.00 for 3-4 drives.

                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
offering all
refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit, to be
shipped
upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30 days for
receipt of
your refurbished drive.

                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariat.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 9786
  To: KEITH SATURN                             Date: 01/07/94  5:35p
Subj: Re: New disc                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


In a message to Lee Noga <01-05-94 18:53> Keith Saturn wrote:

KS>>  LN> Women on Wheels, 1500 images of Hard R to X (nude) women posing

KS>> Sounds interesting, but if the files aren't shareware, then what are
KS>> they that would cause you to make the CD BBS ready?  Are the images
KS>> freely distributable?

They are licensed for distribution by sysops for their caller's private use. We
have got the permission from the photogrpahers/agencies that OWN the slides, to
allow us to design the disc BBS ready because we want the sysops to distribute
the images on their BBS. Our copyrighted images just don't lend themselves for
publication on other CD's, or publication in magazines without permission from
the photog's--Note, the sysops DO NOT pay any fees to put the disc online-- The
only fee is what it cost you to purchase the disc :) Shop wisely :)

Thanks for the inquiry !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: GREGORY SHULTZ                         Number: 9787
  To: KENNETH ROACH                            Date: 01/07/94 10:07p
Subj: Re: JFK CDRom                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <01-04-94 03:32> Kenneth Roach wrote:

 KR> Does anyone have the recently introduced JFK CD available?

        Does it have GIF's of Marilyn Monroe and Angie Dickinson?

Greg

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From: MIKE BARROW                            Number: 9788
  To: JD BROWN                                 Date: 01/05/94  9:43a
Subj: Mega a/v cd rom                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JD,  I have a copy of MEGA A/V I will sell for $20

Call (904)791-6282 or 641-5059 (eves) in Jax, FL.


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9789
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/05/94 11:10p
Subj: CREAM OF THE CROP 2: $25                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |  Title:  CREAM OF THE CROP 2  |  |   Price:  $25   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

                             >>> IT'S HERE! <<<

     The CD that is being praised by sysops across the country for its
     ease of installation, and fresh new files, is now shipping!  Cream
     of the Crop 2 contains over 654mb of only the most current shareware
     files available, all but 200 of which are dated LATER than April
     1993!  If you're a sysop, you'll LOVE the automatic installation
     feature which is compatible with Maximus, Remote Access, Spitfire,
     PCBoard, and QuickBBS.  If you're a "shareware lover", you'll be
     very impressed with the mouse-driven graphic user interface, and
     the overall ease of use.  See why they're raving....buy one today!

     * 654mb total
     * Virus-scanned with the LATEST scanning software
     * FILES.BBS support
     * 5000+ total files
     * 14mb of programming source code
     * 0% internal duplicates
     * 22.5% dupes to Night Owl 10.1
     * Only 14.6% dupes to CD Powerbox 2

-----| SUPER SPECIAL 2-CD PACKAGE:  Cream of the Crop 2 + Powerbox 2...$49
-----| GET THE TWO NEWEST SHAREWARE CD'S AVAILABLE!  LESS THAN 15% DUPES!

       OTHER PAKS AVAILABLE:  Cream 2 + Pier 3.........................$45
                              Cream 2 + Software Vault Gold............$45
                              Cream 2 + Night Owl 10.1.................$52

                 >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * This tagline contains 100% NutraSweet

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9790
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/05/94 11:10p
Subj: TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES.....                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #2:  TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES   |
         |________________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

>CREAM OF THE CROP 2 * Automatic BBS installation. 654mb of 1993 files..$25
 CD POWERBOX 2 * The newest of the new! Current shareware hits. BBS.....$29
 DIGITAL DREAMS 2 * Newest all-original "R" CD. No dupes to 1! BBS......$29
>COMPANION FOR OS/2 * 475mb of the latest OS/2 shareware. BBS-Ready.....$19
 VIRTUAL REALITY STARTER KIT * Everything you need for V.R. on your PC!.$49

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * ...Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball...

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9791
  To: LOUIS DIGGS                              Date: 01/05/94 11:10p
Subj: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LD:>Thanks for your reply, Mike. I'll wait for your catalog.
LD:>If you can, could you tell me what "Shareware" in the CD-ROM disc means. I
LD:>understand shareware in the normal disks, but I'm wondering how shareware
LD:>relates to CD-ROM.

Sure Louis,

Because of their immense storage capacity, "shareware CD's" simply contain
a much higher number of shareware programs than what floppies are capable
of.  A typical shareware CD might have upwards of 5000 files on it, which
are generally in compressed ".ZIP" format, whereas a high density floppy
might only be able to hold 10 or 15 average sized files.  The shareware
concept is the same......the only difference is the medium used.

Later,
.\\ike


 * SLMR 2.1a * I still miss my ex-wife, but my aim is getting better.

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From: STEVE PESANT                           Number: 9792
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/06/94  9:45p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi there Joe

 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
 JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
 JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
 JR> We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.

You're more than welcome to F'att me another one to (1:153/217), I put the last
one on-line and a couple of people D/L'd it, so might as well update it 8)

-=Cheers=-
        Steve, SysOp (Westwood One Information Network - 1:153/217)
        

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From: STEVE PESANT                           Number: 9793
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 01/06/94  9:47p
Subj: Pacific Rim Computer Show               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi there Ismail

I noticed your post the other day regarding discount tickets for the upcoming
Computer Convention. If you've still got some, I'd love to get one, and if
possible, I got a few friends that would be interested too!

You've got my address on file!

-=Cheers=-
        Steve.

PS. Do you have a NEW catalog yet, with the NEWEST shareware releases?!


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From: STEVE PESANT                           Number: 9794
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/06/94  9:49p
Subj: Pacifc Rim Computer Convention          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi there Boris,

>>    Thought I read you were heading up to vnacouver for the 
>>    computer show on jan 17, 18, 19 is that right......

 BO> From the looks of it Red, there's a strong chance we'll be there. From
 BO> there, we'll be off to Florida for a few days and then to Texas and
 BO> then to Atlanta. GA.

GREAT...If you'll be there, I'll see ya...Finally some more dealers dropping by
Vancouver...If you're gonna show up , bring some of your biggest and best
selling CD's .... I should be in a great buying mood come that weekend. 8)

-=Cheers=-
        Steve.


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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 9795
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/01/94  9:46a
Subj: PowerBox II                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Happy New Year! 
 
OK boys and girls.  Damar Enterprises announces ANOTHER new release! 
 
                          The CD PowerBox Version 2.00 
 
                  (NOW AVAILABLE & SHIPPING TO DISTRIBUTORS!) 
 
The disk has been checked against itself, Pier3 and NOWL10 for duplication (and

virsus, of course). 
 
The % dupes between PowerBox2 and NOWL10 - 7.94% 
                                  PIER3  - 12.85% 
 
So, why would you be interested in the PowerBox 2 over these other 2?  Well, 
first off, the PowerBox 2 has NEWER files!  As new as November 13, 1993! 
 
Second off, the PowerBox 2 has over 500 MORE files than the NOWL10 disk and,
get 
this folks, over 1000 more than PIER3!  These are the NEWEST and GREATEST files

available right now.  OK, that's it from me - contact your favorite dealer to 
order a copy and if they don't carry the PowerBox 2, tell them to call us for 
dealer pricing!! 
 
Oh yeah, almost forgot - the PowerBox 2 features the UNIVERSAL INTERFACE!  This

is a GUI based on the need by YOU for a single standard front end for your 
various different shareware disks!  No longer do you need to mess around with 
the others' GUI, use the UNIVERSAL INTERFACE - found ONLY on Damar Enterprises 
CD-ROMS. 
 
Now back to the usual stuff, 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
The CD PowerBox Guys! 
 
 
 
  
... Damar Enterprises - Home of the shareware CD-boxes! 
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From: DAVID EBERHARDT                        Number: 9796
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/05/93  7:09a
Subj: German Language Program                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am needing a CD that teaches German.  I have seen a couple of other folks
looking for this also.  I would like to know what is available and what you
might recommend.  It looks like I will be going to Germany in about a year
and I would like to have a handle on the language before getting there.  All
help is appreciated.

Dave


... Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.
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From: GARY GILMORE                           Number: 9797
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94  2:47a
Subj: Mac CDROM on a PC                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone have a CDROM full of Macintosh shareware that'll run on a PC-based BBS?
It has to have FILES.BBS listings for each directory.

Respond with name, price, and whether or not you can supply a allfiles list to
me for the disc.  Thanks!

--Gary

(Netmail replies preferred, please)

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From: NORMAN WATSON                          Number: 9798
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 01/07/94 10:13a
Subj: Shareware CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JP> Can anyone lead me toward some quality shareware CD's for my BBS? My
JP> ideal goalis to have one general shareware CD, one games-oriented CD,
JP> and one Windows-oriented CD. FILES.BBS is a MUST and I would prefer
JP> that the files be relatively recent (mostly 1993, a few '92s are ok).

DC> Jon, give me a ring at Arsenal Computer.  I know that I can help you with
the
DC> statistics that you are quoting, and if you call, I can make sure that we
get
DC> exactly what you are looking for, within the price range you are looking
for.
DC> I'm a SysOp, too, running 28 discs on a 10 line board, and I know what
kinds of
DC> things to watch out for.

Sure appreciated the reviews you posted recently. Most consumers here (I
suspect) are overwhelmed with the different choices on shareware CD's.

How about some recommendations on the CD's asked for in the original
post. I am interested in buying something similar  ... Also, are there
any good Sound Cd's .. I'm interested in putting sound into Windows/Multimedia
Apps. etc 

(p.s. I'd prefer if you post the answers here than having to call you.
Thanks)


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From: DAVID HILL                             Number: 9799
  To: ANONYMOUS                                Date: 01/06/94  8:36p
Subj: games and cd-roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry...not sure which one you are refering to. All the titles I listed had
prices with them. Perhaps this was directed for another??


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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 9800
  To: AMY MOODY                                Date: 01/07/94 12:20p
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Amy - I left you a message on your cd's and received no response.  Frankly, I
don't recall what I left.  Would you repost what you have for sale and I'll
respond again.  Jerry

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9801
  To: MIKE ROARK                               Date: 01/07/94  1:21a
Subj: HOT CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MR:> BO>             C R E A M     O F     T H E     C R O P    I I
MR:> BO> DEALERS WELCOME.......      PRICE - $25.

MR:>How about some sort of Mailing address?? There are many of us that would
lik
MR:>to take advantage of this but the international calling costs are a bit
much

Mike,

We have these in stock at $25.  Our address and other info follows.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.00


 * SLMR 2.1a * Odo, is there any more jello in the fridge?  Odo?  Odo??

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9802
  To: STEVE KRAISLER                           Date: 01/07/94  1:21a
Subj: MegaMovie&GlobalExplorer                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SK:>Looking for best price on Mega Movie Guide and Global Explorer.

We don't carry Mega Movie Guide, but we do stock Global Explorer at $85.

Call any time if interested.

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.00


 * SLMR 2.1a * I'm leaving my body to science fiction...

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9803
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94  1:21a
Subj: SHAREWARE CD 4-PAK: $49                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            __________________________________     _____________
           |                                  |   |             |
           | Title:  SHAREWARE EXPLORER 4-PAK |   | Price:  $49 |
           |__________________________________|   |_____________|

     This great 4-volume shareware CD set is brought to you by the same
     folks who did the 5-Star Premium series, and is every bit as well-
     organized and up-to-date as the 5-Star CD's were.  Are you tired of
     the old, poorly organized shareware CD sets?  You won't be
     disappointed with Shareware Explorer - we guarantee it!

     * Over 26,000 total files (1992/1993)
     * Less than 1% duplication between CD's.
     * 3 volumes are DOS, and 1 is Windows shareware (7000 files)
     * BBS-ready with PC-Board and FILES.BBS file listings.
     * EZ-Access menu program.

                    >> IN STOCK FOR IMMEDIATE DELIVERY! <<

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * In my opinion, your opinion stinks. Any opinion on that?

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9804
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94  1:21a
Subj: NEW CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #5: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS   |
         |________________________________________________________|

  --- GAMES ---

   1. Games Collection     2. Night Owl Games     3. MVP Game Jamboree
      Games 1993              Game Master            House of Games
      Game Arena              Giga Games             Gameware Collection
      ----------              ----------             -------------------
      $49                     $49                    $49

  --- WINDOWS ---

   4. Win Platinum         5. Night Owl Windows   6. Windows Collection
      CD Winbox 1.01          CICA Windows           Windows Companion
      Windows Collection      Window Master          Windows 1993
      ------------------      -------------          ------------
      $55                     $52                    $59

  --- SHAREWARE ---

   7. Software Vault 1     8. Pier 2              9. Monster Media 93
      Software Vault 2        Pier 3                 Shareware Online 2
      Software Vault Gold     CD Powerbox 2          Shareware Studio 3
      -------------------     -------------          ------------------
      $54                     $59                    $65

  --- "R"-RATED ADULT ---

  10. Amateur Models      11. Digital Dreams 1   12. High Volume Nudes
      Busty Babes 2           Digital Dreams 2       Giffy Gold
      Southern Beauties       American Girls         Photo Gallery
      -----------------       --------------         -------------
      $79                     $79                    $89

  --- CLIPART ---

  13. Publique Art            Clipart Warehouse     Encyclopedia of Clipart
      DTPro                   Fresh Arte            Publisher's Dream Disc
      Clipart Goliath         Publisher's Paradise  Clipart Heaven
      ---------------         --------------------  -------------------
      $65                     $65                   $73

         BONUS:  Get CD Winbox for only $12 with any package deal!

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * I've told you a million times not to exaggerate.

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From: JAMES POLLOCK                          Number: 9805
  To: BILL BALDWIN                             Date: 01/06/94  2:34p
Subj: Re: Seeking gif cds                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Bill Baldwin to All <=-

 BB> I am seeking any type of CDs with GIF files.. from mild to wild..
 BB> Thanks

A few of the "mild" variety:  Walnut Creek's Gifs Galore--just as
advertised, lots of gifs with lots of topic areas.  Profit Press's
Mega A/V--all sound and grafix, with some overlap with the GG.  And
Somebody's (no name on the disc) SCI-FI Fantasy--I've just had a few
moments to look this one over, the disc says "1200+ VGA photos".  I
most heartily recommend the first two for "PG" GIFs.  Both have
"Swimsuit" categories...

... Catch the Blue Wave!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: PHIL TREVORROW                         Number: 9806
  To: JASON WAGNER                             Date: 01/07/94  5:11a
Subj: Iron helix & criticl path               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JW>    Sorry to butt in here, but I almost ordered Iron Helix today....
JW>    Before I do, I was wondering about this message.  Is the game that
JW>    much of a challenge, or is it just plain impossible?  I it
JW>    absolutely unbeatable, or is it just really, really hard? <G>

  Well, you have to collect these DNA samples from the crew but there's this
security robot that's after you. I played the game maybe 10 times and within 10
minutes of each game I got killed by the robot. You can't fight it because
there are no weapons your robot can use. I suspose some poeple would like the
game but I didn't like the idea of not being able to fight back, not even
having a human or human-like character, and the security robot which kills you
every 10 minutes.


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From: DANNY TSENG                            Number: 9807
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 01/05/94  5:20p
Subj: Re: Os/2 cd                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DP> Thanks for considering our products! 
 DP> Dave Perkovich 
 DP> Damar Enterprises Software 
        Do you have a list of all your products? If so, I would like to have
one.

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From: SEAN EAGAN                             Number: 9808
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94  4:12p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ATTENTION ALL SYSOPS!!!!


Infotech Industries is getting ready to make it's new ADULT CD-ROM for general
release to the public! Would you like to have one or more of your High Quality
Graphic Images on it as an advertisement for your board on it? If you would
Please send it to us we'll put it on and it'll be a free advertisement for you!
This thing could be used on a vast amount of Systems around the country! So
please send us your .GIF's! Please no odd acts and all participants must be 18!

Sean
P.O. Box 13334
Faiirlawn, OH 44334


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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9809
  To: FRANK CARTISANO                          Date: 01/06/94  3:01a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Frank is replying to Joe who replied to All on 29 Dec 93 02:35am

 >  JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
 >  JR> Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
 >  JR> P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
 >  JR> Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

 > Would you like me to send my address to you in this echo? If not how?
 > Frank Cartisano
    Frank,
    Thanks for asking.  You have several choices ie: send it via post card,
Direct E-Mail to 1:157/479, or the many other networks I subscribe to, you may
post it here if you have no fears of everyone having your address, you may also
call me voice anytime, & I'll have our latest & greatest catalog of a "truly 1
stop shop selection" in the next days mail heading to your door:-)
    Hope this helps.


Sincerely,
Joe Rinehart

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9810
  To: LARRY RICHARDSON                         Date: 01/06/94  3:03a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Is your Re-ferb's complete or are they just the bare systems?
    The price is for a bare drive.  Thanks for asking.


Sincerely,
Joe Rinehart

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9811
  To: MIKE BILOW                               Date: 01/06/94  3:11a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > In a msg on <Jan 02 06:40>, Joe Rinehart of 1:157/479 writes:

 >  JR>                Internet alternate: joe@config.wariant.org

 > That must be a wariant of the correct address, which I assume is
 > actually "joe@config.wariat.org"?
    Very Sorry Mike!  Yes you are absolutely right.  I'm in the process of
obtaining our own Internet address for our CD-ROM SUPPORT BBS, and this was the
assigned address for me during the process.  I'll be correcting my ad's very
fast as this may account for the drop of Internet e-mail I've recently
experienced.  Again many thanks & BTW, did you write me recently in regard to
an "Interactive disc", if so I have some great news & a deal "below wholesale"
for you, especially for pointing this error out;-)


Regards,
Joe Rinehart
config.sys
P.O.Box 27
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001
v216.296.9831

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9812
  To: BILL WOOD                                Date: 01/07/94  1:08a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  -=> Quoting Joe Rinehart to All <=-
 >  JR> Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $110.00 30day warrantee
 >  JR> Refurbished  NEC Model 36       CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee
 >  JR> Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
 > Hey, or the reburbished drives just as good as, well almost as good as
 > a
 > new one, does your 30day warrantee guarentee money back if something
 > goes wrong with it. Thanks Bill
Bill,
    As for being just as good, it really depends on what you are looking for in
a drive.  If you are looking for drives to store data and possibly use for a
BBS, then these are great drives.  If you are looking for a multi-media drive
for all the pretty graphics & sound, then you will want a faster, newer drive. 
In regard to the warrantee, yes we offer a full thirty day money back guarantee
& it will cover replacement or repair if desired also.



Regards,
Joe Rinehart
config.sys
P.O.Box 27
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001
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From: PAUL E. BUSSA                          Number: 9813
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/07/94  6:13p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
JR>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
JR>If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.

Hello Joe,

Please send me a copy of your catalog to the following address.

Paul E. Bussa
13612 Green Street
Grand Haven, MI. 49417

                             Thanx.

                         Paul E. Bussa

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From: JOHN VAN HARE                          Number: 9814
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 01/06/94  6:02a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Double Speeds               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 04 Jan 94  00:14:01, Daniel Hagan said this to John Van Hare.

 > It is a nationwide chain of discount sppliance/electronic department
 > stores.
DH> 
DH> That narrows it down John...think you can just cough up the name next time?
DH> 
I did...the name of the store is "Best Buy"  surprised you haven't heard of 
it.  As more and more large chains realize how lucrative computer parts can 
be, I expect this trend to continue.

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From: JAMES PATTERSON                        Number: 9815
  To: FANIE VILJOEN                            Date: 01/07/94 11:13a
Subj: JAGUAR/3DO                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FV>Hia there !!
FV>
FV>I am doing a feasability study on the Jaguar and 3DO as multiMedia 
FV>platforms, and I need the following information...
FV>Who can I contact for more information on Development kits, or authori
FV>kits. 
FV>Where can I get complete tech specs and sample software/hardware ???
FV>Any Info will be greatly appreciated !!
FV>
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FV>
I'm not sure about 3DO, but you might try calling Atari's customer service 
number and hopefully they can put you in contact with the right people for 
the info you need on the Jaguar.  1-800-GO ATARI (cute, huh?).


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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 9816
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94  5:38p
Subj: Bbv2 For Trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 Have Busty Babes Volume II (newest release in this series) available
 in trade for another adult CD; looking for Southern Beauties or
 similar "quasi-recent, soft-type" CD.  MUST state 21+...
 thanks in advance.

 )\/(ark

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From: RICK SHELTON                           Number: 9817
  To: BOB DAMATO                               Date: 01/06/94 10:54p
Subj: Busty Babes Vol 1 For Sale!             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Bob!

Wednesday December 22 1993 09:42, Bob Damato wrote to Rick Shelton:

 BD> how is $25 shipped???

Not enough, <g>. Seriously this disk is a collectors item, and I have heard of
people getting as much as $500 for it unopened. I figure mine should bring
about $350.
Cya

Rick

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From: RICK SHELTON                           Number: 9818
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/06/94 10:57p
Subj: Busty Babes Vol 1 For Sale!             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

I still have the Busty Babes v1 #1 for sale. This is a collectors item, make me
an offer.


Rick

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From: MARIO LERMITTE                         Number: 9819
  To: ALLEN DIETZ                              Date: 01/05/94  4:46p
Subj: Used CD-ROM discs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hallo Allen,


In een berichtje op Maandag 27 December 1993, schreef jij aan All:

 AD> I have the following *used* (lightly) CD-ROM discs for sale.  All
 AD> are in excellent condition.  Please call me at (512) 444-9822 and

 AD> The Bible Library (Ellis Enterprises)     $20.00
Please I'am interest in this one. Please give more details and let's say $25
for sending it to Belgium???

greetings,
Vriendelijke groeten,
Mario


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From: MARIO LERMITTE                         Number: 9820
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/04/94  9:36p
Subj: CD DISCOUNTS 1 of 3                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hallo Mike,


In een berichtje op Dinsdag 28 December 1993, schreef jij aan All:

 MS> Bible Library.................28.50
 MS> Bibles & Religion.............13.00
This 2 shipping or airmail to Belgium. Whats the price???
Greetings,
Vriendelijke groeten,
Mario


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From: TONY GRANATOWSKI                       Number: 9821
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94 11:23p
Subj: T7g & loom trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey all:

I have The Seventh Guest and Loom up for trade....  Any offers?

Tony
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From: L RICHARD JOHNSON                      Number: 9822
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 01/07/94  4:06a
Subj: CDROM Drives                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You're apparent lack of response leaves no choice but to file charges against
you for fraud. I give three days to respond. The choice is yours.

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From: NINO FAGAN                             Number: 9823
  To: MIKE BILOW                               Date: 01/06/94 12:31p
Subj: Info-Magic                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Mike Bilow wrote  
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
:>Does anyone here carry the Info-Magic or Yggdrasil line of 
:>Unix-oriented disks such as Info-Magic "Internet Standards"? 
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

Just the below one Mike and am please with it.  It's Yggdrasil.

RICHARD CARTER
ComputerHelp
PO Box 385041
Bloomington, MN  55438-0041
Ph:  (612) 890-4750
Fax:  (612) 894-9411

Linux..........................$23.50

Shipping:  1-3 discs in one order = $4.50

Regards, 
Nino
... Ideas enclosed: may have settled in shipping.
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From: JESSE SCHMELZER                        Number: 9824
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/06/94  9:29p
Subj: Night Owl 8.0                           Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

What is the warrenty on Nightowl 8.0??? Mine seem to went bad and I got it from
you and want to exchange it for anothe copy of Night owl 8.0. Let me know

 Jesse

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From: RICK PEDLEY                            Number: 9825
  To: MIKE GERVASI                             Date: 01/07/94 12:09p
Subj: Battle chess enh                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG>  SOrry if I jumped in the middle, Rick. You can take it if you like.
MG> You asked first:)

No it's OK Mike, go ahead. I've barely looked at the stuff I picked up at Xmas
yet, so there's no hurry to buy more. :)

Rick

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From: RICK PEDLEY                            Number: 9826
  To: JAY TAYLOR                               Date: 01/07/94 12:09p
Subj: Battle chess enh                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JT>No I didn't get the netmail.  What did you have to say?  I take it that
JT>you don't want it anymore...

Just that I'd sold the other disk and I was ready to buy yours, but go ahead
and sell it to Mike; I've already got enough here to mess around with til June
:)

Rick

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From: GERALD BANACH                          Number: 9827
  To: CARL MONTANTE                            Date: 01/07/94 11:12p
Subj: looking for Sony 535's                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How much do you want for it?


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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 9828
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94  3:01a
Subj: adult cd trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have ANIMATION FANTASIES I'd like to trade for another adult cd. Let me know
if interested.
Greg

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From: JIM LEONARDT                           Number: 9829
  To: BILL HALL                                Date: 12/27/93  6:42a
Subj: Mitsumi 2x Spin                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well then I am sorry for the two of us! First for you as you could have sold
one <g> Then for me as I am still in need of one!
Well thank you for the reply. Hope you had a good Christmas!
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From: JIM LEONARDT                           Number: 9830
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/01/94  1:56p
Subj: CD-ROM or Ex. Tape                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Yo! I am a disabled Nam Vet and on Social Security so money is tight but
steady. What I need is an External Tape or "GOOD" CD-ROM
(External) I can pay $30.00 per month (just to be safe) and the odds are that I
can and will have it paid for in less than 2 months.....With S.S. it is hard to
get it all together at one time!
But would like the $30.00 per month incase I hit a hard time as this will help
us both...I would hate to promise more and not come through!!! But as I said I
"Should" have it taken care of in two months time....If you can work with me on
this please net me at 1:284/52 or call Data Line: 417-326-3361. 
                         Thank You!
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From: CLIFFORD LOUIE                         Number: 9831
  To: PHIL TREVORROW                           Date: 01/07/94 11:30p
Subj: Iron helix & criticl path               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Phil,  thanks for the tip 


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From: LOUIS DIGGS                            Number: 9832
  To: HOWARD ONEIL                             Date: 01/07/94 10:44p
Subj: Trade Wanted                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Howard, I'll consider buying the SCSI 83MEG HD if it is an external one, and
can be used on a Mac. What sort of price are you looking for?
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From: LOUIS DIGGS                            Number: 9833
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/07/94 10:51p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST pt 3                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike, I'm quite new to using CD-ROM's - just purchased an Apple CD-ROM 300 for
my Mac.
I am interested in the US Atlas w/auto Map ($29.00) and the Mac Shareware
($19.00), and of course the 600 MB Shareware CD for $6.00, if they can be used
on my Mac CD-ROM Player. Could you please advise me, and also advise me how I
can use my AMEX.
Thanks for your reply. 
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From: LOUIS DIGGS                            Number: 9834
  To: TOM MILLER                               Date: 01/07/94 10:53p
Subj: TOSHIBA                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Tom, I'm reading you just great on BBS in Catonsville, Maryland (just outside
of Baltimore). 
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From: LOUIS DIGGS                            Number: 9835
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94 10:55p
Subj: Looking for some used CDs               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking to purchase some used CD's, preferably some games that can be used
on a Macintosh.
Thanks for any responses. 
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From: ADRIAN VERGOT                          Number: 9836
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/06/94 11:40p
Subj: Custom CD-ROM $75 !                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM? 
 
CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your proprietary DOS or Windows
files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and Affordable.
All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information
(600+ Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (other
formats considered on a case by case basis) and we will directly
transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any
ISO compliant CD-ROM drive (just about every one made today!)
 
- Confidentiality is assured
- $75 per CD-ROM (mention this add)
- additional copies only $50 each
- Turn around time is about 2 days
- BBS Sysops call for rates
- We accept money orders and cashiers checks
- Pesonal Check orders will be shipped when check clears bank
 
If interested, call (412) 942-4694 and ask for Adrian 
Auto Fax (412) 942-4694
 
Make checks payable to : Adrian Vergot
                         108 Shady Lane
                         McMurray, PA  15317
 
Enclose a signed copy of the following disclaimer with your order:
 
DUE TO THE BULK NATURE OF THIS SERVICE, CD-ROM CREATIONS (c) DOES
NOT AND CAN NOT CENSOR AND DETERMINE THE NATURE OF THE MATERIEL
THAT THE CUSTOMER IS PROVIDING.  IT IS THEREFORE THE SOLE
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER TO ENSURE THAT NO COPYRIGHT
VIOLATIONS EXIST IN PLACING THE DATA ONTO CD-ROM
                      Signed ______________________________
                                     Your Signature

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 9837
  To: BOB DAMATO                               Date: 01/07/94  9:42p
Subj: amature models cd                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

there are pics in gif and 24 bit tiff format.  All Amatuer Models. No X rated
stuff in this..
 
Scott
 
PS< if interested please reply soon, have had a  few other inquiries..

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 9838
  To: BOB DAMATO                               Date: 01/07/94  9:43p
Subj: cd                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ok, send the $33 to the following address,as soon as I get the money will send
the cd via 2nd day mail.
 
thanks
Scott Raley
Box 76 Curley Rd
ridge,MD 20680-0076
 
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From: MIKE KARINA                            Number: 9839
  To: TED FOX                                  Date: 01/06/94  5:54p
Subj: posting                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry about posting that message in CD-ROM stuff, I posted a CD-ROM based
question the day before and forgot to join the Comments to and from the sysop,
wont happen again.
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From: BOBBY POSEY                            Number: 9840
  To: JESSE SCHMELZER                          Date: 01/06/94  4:40p
Subj: Pioneer 6 Cd-Changer Wanted             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > When you get the 1804x let me know i would like to get one. Also can you
 > mail me your latest Catalog???? never got one since i order a while ago.

Jesse you can Freq Boris's catalog from me at 388/20 up to 16.8 23 hrs daily as
CCI.ZIP or CCI.ARJ or magic CCI..

Bobby Posey

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From: BOBBY POSEY                            Number: 9841
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/07/94  7:33a
Subj: drive                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey Boris,
  To answer you question concerning the netmail last night the answer is yes I
did get the drive and haven't had time to install it yet.   Really waiting for
the 1.2 to get back before because I see no reason to pull the system down and
set this one up then do the same when the other comes in.     Just do it once
instead of twice.    I will probably get some time this weekend to read the
info you sent and get back with you on the system..

Bobby

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From: DOUG HUNKELE                           Number: 9842
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/07/94  7:53p
Subj: TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES.....                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

* Overheard by  All, Mike Shannon Mumbled...:
MS >   DIGITAL DREAMS 2 * Newest all-original "R" CD. No dupes

Mike..... is digital dreams 2 releaseable on a bbs such as BBII is???

thanks.

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From: JOAN URBANOWICZ                        Number: 9843
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 01/06/94  9:24p
Subj: Cd-rom?                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jerry,
What do you think of this advertisement? Educational Companion - 450+ megs -
3,700+ files - BBS Ready - Loaded with
                        educational games, tutorials, languages and more !
              Price - $16.00 ec + Free Diagnostic cd offer
     ORDERS US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9844
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/08/94  2:55a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9845
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/08/94  2:55a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
                        ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $110.00 30day warrantee
Refurbished  NEC Model 36       CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee

                    ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee

                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
14.4 Power supply..................$10.00 ea.
external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
Shipping (drives)$25.00 for up to 2 drives,$40.00 for 3-4 drives.

                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
offering all
refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit, to be
shipped
upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30 days for
receipt of
your refurbished drive.

                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariat.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOYCE ZWEEDYK                          Number: 9846
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 01/08/94  9:20a
Subj: Carmen san diego                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Jeff Jenkins to Joyce Zweedyk dated 01-05-94 ***
> Carmen San Diego is not a disk, it's a CD
> the only documentation is the little booklet that comes with it. It is 
> all you need though!
> If still interested leave mail and we will get something together.


Yes, I am still interested.....

So how do we get together?

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From: AUDIE VICKERS                          Number: 9847
  To: AMY MOODY                                Date: 01/06/94 10:59p
Subj: Surge Protector                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AM>Sorry no need for a surge protector...have a UPS.  I could however use anoth
AM>one if you happen to have one of those laying around somewhere.

   ...you could build your own for just a couple of bucks.  Can't tell
   you how here, though, wrong echo.  Gimmie a call if interested.
   (407) 348-7057 after 6:00p., EST.
   (407) 281-4103 x156 7:00a to 3:30p., EST.

 * OLX 2.2 * I'm from the Government and I'm here to help...


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From: GEORGE NIPPERS                         Number: 9848
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/08/94  3:14p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in your CD file attachment, as I may want to purchase
several CD-ROM titles in the near future.
Feel free to attach a file to your reply.
Thanks


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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 9849
  To: BILL BALDWIN                             Date: 01/08/94  3:02p
Subj: Seeking gif cds                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bill Baldwin uttered the following to All :
 -BB> I am seeking any type of CDs with GIF files.. from mild to wild..

Got some totally wild A.P.L. (Adult Picture Library) CDs for $34.95 + shipping
(prepay).  Call 615-356-1967 for your copy...

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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 9850
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/08/94  3:05p
Subj: A.P.L. trade                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Would like to trade the hardcore A.P.L.(Adult Picture Library) CD for a pure
R-rated, no-BBS-AD, CD-rom that preferably has 24bit images instead of the
256-color Gifs...  Let me know...  615-356-1967...

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From: RICK PEDLEY                            Number: 9851
  To: MIKE GERVASI                             Date: 01/08/94 11:42a
Subj: Battle chess enh                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG>  SOrry if I jumped in the middle, Rick. You can take it if you like.
MG> You asked first:)

No it's OK Mike, go ahead. I've barely looked at the stuff I picked up at Xmas
yet, so there's no hurry to buy more. :)

Rick

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From: RICK PEDLEY                            Number: 9852
  To: JAY TAYLOR                               Date: 01/08/94 11:42a
Subj: Battle chess enh                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JT>No I didn't get the netmail.  What did you have to say?  I take it that
JT>you don't want it anymore...

Just that I'd sold the other disk and I was ready to buy yours, but go ahead
and sell it to Mike; I've already got enough here to mess around with til June
:)

Rick

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From: RICK PEDLEY                            Number: 9853
  To: RAY MATTHEWS                             Date: 01/08/94 11:42a
Subj: Flame? anybody seen it??                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@> 1:2270/233.30

RM>    Just wondering if anybody has tried to order this new Flame disc,
RM>and if so, have they actually received it. I called in a COD
RM>order about 3 weeks ago, and never heard anything since.

Mine just got here today, Jan 7, and was postmarked Dec 30. I was a little
concerned too because I used a credit card, but I guess with the holidays and
all, it just took a little longer. Not a bad disk but lots of overlap with
other disks, the usual dupes across various categories, the `kinky' areas are
thin on material. Overall I'd say it's mostly pre-existing material organized
differently; I'd give it a 6. I have four of these things now, and between them
they probably cover 90% of all images currently available. I think I'll let a
year roll by before buying any more of them.

Rick

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From: TOM HARPER                             Number: 9854
  To: NINO FAGAN                               Date: 01/08/94 12:49p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1 OF 4                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Nino!

Tuesday January 04 1994 20:33, Nino Fagan wrote to Brice Fleckenstein:

 :>> Brice's Library
 :>> CD-ROM and Book Price List 3 December 1993
 > ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

 > I believe this is the third time now.  In each case your message
 > starts with "Section 1 of 4" and that's the last we see.  Where
 > are sections 2 thru 4?

Yes, we see the same here...  Only one message.

Tom
...
I know a good tag line when I steal one.

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From: DON BRADEN                             Number: 9855
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/08/94  2:03p
Subj: CDROM dealer                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In December I saw an ad for a dealer in CDROM's with an address in London
Ontario. I have misplaced the exact address and would appreciate it greatly
if someone could provide it for me. Thanks in advance

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From: SAM BECKWITH                           Number: 9856
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94 11:21p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DFW Discount Electronics    CD-ROM Price List  Orders: 800-829-0331
 Ship to USA ONLY.01/07/94  BBS: 214-259-4188  Local : 214-254-0331

*BBS Ready*           
9000 Sounds 9/93...........................................  $21.00
CD Powerbox v2.0 11/93.....................................  $16.00
Cream of the Crop 2........................................  $19.00
Cream of the Crop II 10/93.................................  $19.00
Ham Radio & Scanner Companion 11/93........................  $17.00
Hobbes OS/2 Archives 10/93.................................  $15.00
Monster Media 93 Volume 2..................................  $23.00
Night Owl 10.1 (Tested Virus Free).........................  $29.00
Night Owl Games 10/93......................................  $17.00
Night Owl Graghics 8/93....................................  $23.00
Night Owl Windows..........................................  $26.00
OS/2 Companion 11/93.......................................  $17.00
Pier 3 Shareware...........................................  $25.00
Sci-Fi Fantasy 4/93........................................  $21.00
Shareware Explorer 4 CD Combo 8/93.........................  $39.00
Shareware GamePak for DOS 11/93............................  $17.00
Shareware Studio III.......................................  $18.00
Simtel 10/93...............................................  $15.00
So Much Shareware 3........................................  $21.00
Software Vault Gold Collection.............................  $18.00
Sysop's Companion 11/93....................................  $17.00

*Business*            
Britannica Select Software.................................  $18.00
Business Assistant.........................................  $13.00
Business Master 3rd Edition 10/93..........................  $17.00
Marketing Master (DOS-OEM).................................  $15.00

*Children*            
Aesop's Fables (Boxed).....................................  $25.00
Aladdin and his Wonderful Lamp.............................  $34.00
Arthur's Teacher Trouble (Windows-OEM).....................  $23.00
Barney Bear Goes to School.................................  $15.00
Barney Bear Goes to Space..................................  $15.00
Beauty & the Beast.........................................  $20.00
Interactive Storytime Volume 1.............................  $18.00
Interactive Storytime Volume 2.............................  $18.00
Interactive Storytime Volume 3.............................  $18.00
Just Grandma and Me (Windows-OEM)..........................  $27.00
McMillan Dictionary for Children (OEM).....................  $23.00
Mixed Up Mother Goose......................................  $16.00
Peter and the Wolf (OEM)...................................  $19.00
Sleeping Beauty............................................  $20.00
White Horse Child (OEM)....................................  $20.00

*Cooking*             
Colossal Cookbook..........................................  $15.00
Cookbook Heaven............................................  $14.00
Healing Foods Cookbook.....................................  $31.00
John Schumacher's New Prague Cookbook......................  $24.00
New Basics Electronic Cookbook.............................  $23.00

*Education*           
Education Master 2nd Edition...............................  $17.00
PC-SIG World of Education 12/93............................  $17.00

*Games/Entertainment* 
Adventures of Willy Beamish................................  $16.00
B-17 Flying Fortress & Silent Service (OEM)................  $26.00
Battle Chess Enhanced (OEM)................................  $29.00
CD Game Pack II............................................  $20.00
CD-ROM Challenge Pack......................................  $19.00
Chessmaster 3000 (OEM).....................................  $20.00
Conan the Cimmerian (OEM)..................................  $21.00
Cybergenic Ranger - Secret of the Seventh Planet...........  $14.00
Dagger of Amon Ra - Laura Bow 2 (Windows-OEM)..............  $23.00
Deathstar Arcade Battles...................................  $13.00
Dracula Unleashed..........................................  $52.00
Dune (OEM).................................................  $33.00
Ecoquest: The Search for Cetus (Windows)...................  $24.00
European Racers (Boxed)....................................  $31.00
Eye of the Beholder III, D&D (OEM).........................  $24.00
F-117A Stealth Fighter 2.0 + F15 Strike Eagle II (OEM).....  $26.00
Gunship 2000 (OEM).........................................  $26.00
Guy Spy and the Crystals of Armageddon (OEM)...............  $20.00
Hugo's House of Horrors....................................  $13.00
Iron Helix (Windows).......................................  $61.00
Jutland (Boxed)............................................  $44.00
King's Quest V (OEM).......................................  $18.00
King's Quest VI (OEM)......................................  $26.00
Labyrinth of Time..........................................  $53.00
Legend of Kyrandia (OEM)...................................  $24.00
Loom.......................................................  $15.00
Lost in Time...............................................  $25.00
Mad Dog Mcree..............................................  $37.00
Maniac Mansion - Day of the Tentacle (Boxed)...............  $43.00
MVP Software's Game Jamboree...............................  $13.00
Return to Zork (OEM).......................................  $25.00
Secret of Monkey Island....................................  $19.00
Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe............................  $18.00
Seventh Guest (OEM)........................................  $35.00
Shareware GamePak for Windows 11/93........................  $17.00
Space Quest IV - Roger Wilco and the Time Rippers (OEM)....  $16.00
Star Wars Chess (OEM)......................................  $19.00
Stellar 7..................................................  $17.00
Tornado (OEM)..............................................  $26.00
Who Killed Sam Rupert? (Windows)...........................  $18.00
Wrath of the Demon (OEM)...................................  $17.00

*Gardening*           
Gardening..................................................  $13.00
Pixel Garden...............................................  $26.00
Plant Doctor, The..........................................  $26.00

*General*             
CD-ROM Deluxe Pack.........................................  $25.00
CD-ROM Deluxe Pack 2.......................................  $25.00
Megabyte Monster...........................................  $18.00
PC-SIG World of Windows 8/93...............................  $18.00
Shareware Overload Trio (3 CD set).........................  $21.00
Software Treasure Chest 11/93..............................  $14.00
Windows Master.............................................  $16.00
WinPlatinum................................................  $16.00

*Graphics & Clip Art* 
Clipart Galore - All American Series Volume 2..............  $25.00
Clipart Heaven.............................................  $15.00
Clipart Warehouse..........................................  $13.00
Color Magic Clipart........................................  $20.00
Desktop Publishers Dream Disk..............................  $25.00
Font Funhouse (OEM)........................................  $17.00
Fontmaster II..............................................  $17.00
GIFs Galore 9/93...........................................  $19.00
Jets and Props (OEM).......................................  $18.00
Kodak Photo CD Access Software (Windows)...................  $15.00
Mother of All Clipart......................................  $14.00
Publisher's Paradise.......................................  $21.00
Publisher's Powerhouse.....................................  $16.00
Too Many Typefonts.........................................  $13.00
WorldView..................................................  $15.00

*Health*              
Family Doctor..............................................  $19.00
Home Remedies (OEM)........................................  $19.00
Mayo Clinic Family Health (Mac-OEM)........................  $19.00
Mayo Clinic Family Health (Windows-OEM)....................  $19.00
Prescription Drugs.........................................  $25.00

*Programming*         
Source CD-ROM..............................................  $18.00
Technotools................................................  $13.00


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From: SAM BECKWITH                           Number: 9857
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94 11:21p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
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*Reference*           
A Line in the Sand (Boxed).................................  $35.00
Aircraft Encyclopedia......................................  $28.00
Complete Bookshop..........................................  $13.00
Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia 1994 (Windows-OEM)......  $65.00
Dictionaries and Languages.................................  $13.00
Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia 6.0  1994 (MPC/Windows)....  $37.00
Languages of the World.....................................  $21.00
MS Bookshelf 93 for Windows (OEM)..........................  $37.00
MS Encarta 1994 (Boxed)....................................  $86.00
ProPhone National Edition 4th Quarter 1993 (7 disc set)....  $77.00
Star Trek Collectibles (Windows)...........................  $40.00
USA Wars: Civil War........................................  $25.00
USA Wars: Korea............................................  $25.00
USA Wars: Vietnam..........................................  $24.00
USA Wars: World War II.....................................  $25.00

*Religion*            
Bible Library..............................................  $24.00
Holy Bible CD-ROM..........................................  $17.00

*Science & Nature*    
Beyond the Wall of Stars (Boxed)...........................  $20.00
Dictionary of the Living World (OEM).......................  $21.00
Dinosaur Adventure (OEM)...................................  $25.00
Dinosaur Discovery (Windows-OEM)...........................  $24.00
Dinosaurs! The Multimedia Encyclopedia (Windows)...........  $19.00
Images of NASA Collection..................................  $23.00
Jurassic and Other Dinosaurs...............................  $14.00
MS Multimedia Dinosaurs (Windows-Boxed)....................  $56.00
National Geographics Mammals (OEM).........................  $21.00
New View of Space (Windows)................................  $22.00
Our Solar System...........................................  $13.00
San Diego Zoo Presents...The Animals (DOS).................  $18.00
San Diego Zoo Presents...The Animals (MPC Windows).........  $16.00
Small Blue Planet (Windows)................................  $43.00
Space Adventure (OEM)......................................  $24.00

*Sound/Music*         
Encyclopedia of Sound......................................  $13.00
MIDI Music Shop for Windows................................  $18.00
Sound Sensations...........................................  $13.00

*Travel & Maps*       
Adventures (Windows-OEM)...................................  $22.00
Oceans Below (Windows-OEM).................................  $18.00
US Atlas 4.0...............................................  $18.00
World Atlas (Windows) with Mario is Missing................  $20.00

*Utility*             
MPC  Wizard................................................  $14.00
 Call me for a complete price list.  Thanks, Sam

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From: BILL WOOD                              Number: 9858
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/07/94  9:10p
Subj: Re: TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES..               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=- 
 
 MS> ________________________________________________________ 
 MS> |                                                        | 
 MS> |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #2:  TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES   | 
 MS> |________________________________________________________| 
 
 MS> > = new since last posting 
  
 >CREAM OF THE CROP 2 * Automatic BBS installation. 654mb of 1993 files..$25 
 MS> INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD 
 MS> Shop! BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day 
 MS> Air for the FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs  same price as 
  
Do you have this in stock, cause I know of a fellow sysop who ordered 
BB2 awhile back, far longer than 3 days ago, and still hasn't received 
it, I think it's been over 2 weeks.  Just wondering. 
I have also heard you are a good place to buy cd's from another 
another sysop. 
Bill 
 
 
... Drop your carrier ... we have you surrounded! 
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From: DAN HAAS                               Number: 9859
  To: LOYD CRAFT                               Date: 01/06/94  1:13a
Subj: Custom CDROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> We can transfer your programs and data from Tape, Floppy or Hard Disk
-> to Industry Standard CDROM, which is accessible by any ISO9660 compli
-> CDROM reader.
->
->                  1st Copy     2nd Thru 4th     5+
->                 ----------   --------------  ------
->                  $100.00         $50.00      $45.00
->
->  2nd through 5+ pricing reflects identical disks, or disks with MINOR
->
->  We also offer a $20 discount on the first disk of each unique CD set
->  the first.

What If I want 2000 copies of the same disk duplicated?  what is the
fee? how long does it take for you to deliver an order like this? and
do you print the cd disks with my logo, and make phamphletts for the
cd rom cases?
what about 4000? what about 8000?

ok, I  will stop it at that.  I am planning
to produce a cd, so gotta know if
I can get enough of them instock.

-Dan Haas
SCIENCE EXCHANGE ONLINE 215-429-5822
FIDONET 1:2624/302
NETUSA  92:144/208
INTERNET  dhaas@cpp.pha.pa.us


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From: CLIFFORD SHOCKLEY                      Number: 9860
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/06/94 11:33a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $110.00 30day warrantee
 JR>Refurbished  NEC Model 36       CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee
 
 Could you give me the specs on these drives?  Seek rate, transfer rate,
 XA/Kodax compliances, etc..
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From: TONY WHITE                             Number: 9861
  To: KEITH LOONEY                             Date: 01/08/94  5:14p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol. 1 ver. 1           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

give pictures Scott Miller

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From: TED GREVERS                            Number: 9862
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/08/94 11:19a
Subj: Sony External Drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Wanted:
  External version of the Sony 535i. I presently own a 535 internal, and wish
to add an external drive to the proprietary controller. If you have one you
wish to part with..
Ted Grevers/616.868.7320
BBS/616.868.6727


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From: BILL GREEN                             Number: 9863
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94  9:33p
Subj: SONY external CDROM for sale            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I've got a SONY CDU-6201 external CDROM drive for sale or trade. I
bought the drive new and it has fewer than 5 hours of use. It is in
absolutely perfect condition and is in the original box with the
original docs and installation software so that it would be very
suitable as a gift. It has 380ms access time, comes with its own
controller and is equipped with a headphone jack and volume control on
the front panel.
 
In contrast to some of the junk that is being marketed these days, SONY
drives are built to last forever and have consistently set the industry
standard for overall performance. It is compatible with all IBM
compatibles including XTs.
 
I paid over $400 for this drive and will open the bidding at $200. I'm
also receptive to any interesting trades.

                                        Bill Green
                                        904-476-8971


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From: JD BROWN                               Number: 9864
  To: LOUIS GHINIS                             Date: 01/07/94  9:42p
Subj: Refund                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CIS: 72027,2432  Internet: JD_Brown@f3622.n1.z1.fidonet.org   IBM LINK @
DEV0580

LG> -> So far you have not been so good at keeping your word as to when
LG> -> things will happen. I will send the drives when you send a refund.
LG> -> They don't work and are of no use to me so I have no reason to keep
LG> -> them. I take the chance of being
LG> 
LG>    I have a solution to your problem with the dealer.  Ship your drive
LG> to him COD for the cash amount that he owes you back.  This way the
LG> dealer will know he has got his drive back and shipped out the money and
LG> that you got your money and shipped backed the drive.  Its just a
LG> suggestion.  However if he doesn't pay the cod amount and tells the mail
LG> man to send it back where it came from you will have proof that he
LG> refused to pay the cod for the refund of your drive.  Otherwise your not
LG> going to get anywhere with him.


Nice solution, unless there is a brick in the box.




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From: DOUG ERDELY                            Number: 9865
  To: JON CHRISMAN                             Date: 01/01/94  4:39p
Subj: Re: CD 6-Pack                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Check out what Jon Chrisman wrote on 29 Dec 93 20:37:26:

 JC> Any one have any information on the Pioneer CD 6-pack? Am seriously
 JC> looking at adding it to my BBS system. Is it a good, strong, reliable
 JC> product? Any and all opinions would be appreciated. I will soon have
 JC> over 10 CD's and the 6-pack seems to be the most economical way than
 JC> single CD units.

I have had one online for the last several months... works like a charm. Works
fine with Amiga, PC and MAC disks.

                - Doug -

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From: KENNETH ROACH                          Number: 9866
  To: GREGORY SHULTZ                           Date: 01/08/94  9:35a
Subj: RE: Re: JFK CDRom                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> KR> Does anyone have the recently introduced JFK CD available?
 
>        Does it have GIF's of Marilyn Monroe and Angie Dickinson?
 
Could be...  The CD is available from CD Warehouse, and supposedly Egghead,
for $50-60.  Was hoping to find it for a bit less.

Ken

 
 
 

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From: BOBBY POSEY                            Number: 9867
  To: STEPHEN MAXWELL                          Date: 01/08/94  7:24a
Subj: Multidisk CDROM                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > -=> Note:
 > Copied (from: trade) by Stephen Maxwell using timEd.

 > Hello all!

 > I am curious if anyone has seen the multidisk (jukebox) cdrom drives for
 > sale, and if anyone is using such a beast. How much would I pay for one?
I am using a Pioneer 600a 6 disc changer and love it.
You can Freq or download on first call the Consumer Club International catalog
from me at speeds up to 16.8 23 hours daily.    The name of the file is called
CCI.ZIP or magic CCI.     I believe Boris said he could still get some of the
600a's for something like $739.00 not sure.    Their are 3 models now but the
600a has been discontinued..

Bobby Posey

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From: AMY MOODY                              Number: 9868
  To: JERRY ZELLER                             Date: 01/08/94 12:08p
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
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Hi Jerry,

-> Amy - I left you a message on your cd's and received no response.
-> Frankly, I don't recall what I left.  Would you repost what you have
-> for sale and I'll respond again.  Jerry

I think I replied...but like you, have had a memory laps. :)  Here's the list
of what I have left:

  1.  Loom
  2.  Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe (Flight)
  3.  MacroMedia (Action! & ClipMedia) for Windows
  4.  CD Deluxe Pack (includes: ChessMaster 3000, Mavis
      Beacon Teaches Typing, US Atlas and World Atlas
      by Software Toolworks.)
  5.  A Line in the Sand: Commemorating the US Marine Corps
      involvement in  Desert Shield and Desert Storm.

SEEYA!
  Amy

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 9869
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/08/94  7:05p
Subj: Aldus PhotoStyler for win 2.0           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Aldus PhotoStyler for windows version 2.0.... the latest... on CD Rom.

Its complete, never registered.

$150 takes this great program! + P&H



Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: JASON WAGNER                           Number: 9870
  To: PHIL TREVORROW                           Date: 01/08/94  5:59p
Subj: Iron helix & criticl path               Refer: NONE
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 PT> Well, you have to collect these DNA samples from the crew but
 PT> there's this security robot that's after you. I played the game maybe
 PT> 10 times and within 10 minutes of each game I got killed by the robot.
 PT> You can't fight it because there are no weapons your robot can use. I
 PT> suspose some poeple would like the game but I didn't like the idea of
 PT> not being able to fight back, not even having a human or human-like
 PT> character, and the security robot which kills you every 10 minutes. 

   Hmmm... thanks for the info.  I wonder if this is a bug or something?
   I really think the game looks good, but if its that hard, screw it <G>

   However, I'll see if I can find out something more about it (like if
   anyone has beat that robot) and let you know if I find anything.

   TTYL,
   Jason


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From: JASON WAGNER                           Number: 9871
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/08/94  6:40p
Subj: CD's Wanted                             Refer: NONE
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Looking for a recommendataion on disc(s) containting the following:

LOTS OF .MODs
LOTS OF .FLIs, .GLs, MPEGs, etc.  Basically, I want a lot of rendered 
  animation (no adult... I'm 16! <G>)
LOTS OF Ray-Traced GIFs. 
  
Is there a disc that specializes in Ray-Traced stuff?  Thanks!

Jason


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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 9872
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/08/94  8:06a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

While stealing taglines I oversaw Joe typing about !free Cd catalog!

 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************

Please send a copy of the catalog to:
    Israel M. Gomberg
    2008 FF st. East #30
    Randolph AFB, TX 78148





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From: MICHAEL GIUNTOLI                       Number: 9873
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 01/08/94  2:05a
Subj: Re: Hitachi 3600 cd rom drive           Refer: NONE
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->   Hitachi cd rom drives model 3600 (that's right model 3600) $99 each.
->   Access time 350 ms.  Transfer rate 150 kb/s.  These EXCELLENT drives
->   can be daisy-chained up to 8 on each propitiatory controller card.
              
        Terry, Tell me this, My system is currently running with an ide 
controller and a scsi controller. Should i have any problem hooking up one of 
your propitiatory cards with the equiptment already installed.. I have alot of
Irq's already used up. Already have 2 hardrives, soundcard, voicemail card, 3 
modems, 1 cdrom, both floppys. 
              And do you take charge cards? If so leave me the details..
                

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From: CHARLES TYLER                          Number: 9874
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/08/94  6:29p
Subj: Re: NEW 1994 CD-ROM LIST! pt3           Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike,
       Tell me more about the CD-ROM version of Kings Quest V. Is it DOS or
Windows? Does it have voice or just text? I also didn't notice what your ship
& handling charges are. 
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From: CHARLES TYLER                          Number: 9875
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/08/94  6:56p
Subj: Rebel Assault Passcodes                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone have the passcodes for all of the levels of Rebel Assault? I can't
get past the asteroid field in the first level after training. 
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From: DICK WALSH                             Number: 9876
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/07/94  9:23a
Subj: RE: CD'S FOR SALE                       Refer: NONE
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Boris  send it to the node you see on the end of the board but please make sure
it has the Adult Listing with it.  I will delete the adult listings
here and put the rest of it on the BBS.    I will give the adult stuff in
private mail to anyone who requests it.   OK!!  <Dick>

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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 9877
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/08/94  3:29p
Subj: CD-ROM Software 1 of 1                  Refer: NONE
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                      CMS, SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING 
                             P.O. BOX 165 
                         SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
                       ORDER ONLY: 800-768-7929 
                       INFORMATION: 812-442-0110 
 
$5.00 STANDARD SHIPPING. 600+ MEG SHAREWARE CD $5.95 WITH ANY PURCHASE! 
 
1001 UTILITIES           $ 10.95  20TH CENTURY PEOPLE         $ 29.95 
20TH CENTURY SPORTS      $ 29.95  20TH CENTURY VIDEO          $ 29.95 
9-DIGIT ZIP CODE DIRECT  $ 39.95  A.P.L. VOLUME #1            $ 37.95 
A.S.P. SHAREWARE         $ 29.95  ABOUT COWS                  $ 29.95 
ADVENTURES IN HEAVEN     $ 19.95  ADULT REFERENCE LIBRARY     $ 37.95 
AD&D DARK SUN            $ 79.95  AD&D DUNGEON HACK           $ 57.95 
ADA PROGRAMMING          $ 23.95  ADVENTURES IN HEAVEN        $ 19.95 
AESOP'S FABLES           $ 34.95  AIRCRAFT ENCYCLOPEDIA       $ 39.95 
ALADDIN                  $ 49.95  ALOHA HAWAII                $ 14.95 
AMANDA STORIES           $ 67.95  AMERICAN HERITAGE DICTI     $ 79.95 
AMERICAN JOURNEY         $ 59.95  AMINET AMIGA                $ 19.95 
ANECDOTES #2             $ 14.95  ANECDOTES #3                $ 14.95 
ANECDOTES                $ 14.95  ANIMATION FESTIVAL          $ 29.95 
APOLLO, SPACE SERIES     $ 37.95  ARTHUR'S TEACHER            $ 29.95 
AUDUBON'S BIRDS          $ 29.95  A+ GRADE BUILDER            $ 49.95 
BAKER'S DOZEN            $ 19.95  BARNEY BEAR SCHOOL          $ 19.95 
BARNEY BEAR SPACE        $ 19.95  BATTLE CHESS ENHANCED       $ 39.95 
BEATY & THE BEAST        $ 24.95  BEETHOVEN: NINTH SYMPHO     $ 79.95 
BENJAMIN BUNNY           $ 34.95  BEST BUSINESS               $ 29.95 
BEST OF MICROPOSE        $ 29.95  BIBLE LANDS/STORIES         $ 57.95 
BIBLES & RELIGION        $ 14.95  BIBLIO-TECH                 $ 19.95 
BIRDS OF NORTH AMERICA   $ 19.95  BLACK BOX #2                $ 19.95 
BLACK BOX SHAREWARE #4   $ 24.95  BOOK OF LISTS #3            $ 67.95 
BOOKSHELF 1993 MM        $ 44.95  BRAIN DRAIN GAMES           $ 14.95 
BRITAIN AT ITS BEST      $ 29.95  BRITANNICA SELECT           $ 19.95 
BUSINESS ASSISTANT       $ 14.95  BUSINESS LIBRARY #1         $ 29.95 
BUSINESS PHONE BOOK      $ 24.95  C USERS GROUP LIBRARY       $ 29.95 
CALIFORNIA COLLECTION    $ 14.95  CALIFORNIA TRAVEL           $ 34.95 
CAMERON'S FINE ART       $ 44.95  CAPITAL HILL                $ 29.95 
CAUTIOUS CONDOR          $ 58.95  CAREER OPPORTUNITIES        $ 14.95 
CD CAD VERSION 3.7       $ 37.95  CD FLIPPER                  $  3.99 
CD SPEEDWAY              $ 79.95  CD-ROM CADDY                $  4.95 
CHAOS FRATALS & MAGIC    $ 39.95  CHESS MANIAC 5 BILLION      $ 59.95 
CHESSMASTER 3000  MM     $ 29.95  CINDERELLA                  $ 37.95 
CINEMANIA                $ 79.95  CLASSIC CLIPS               $ 37.95 
CLINTON BILL             $ 34.95  CLIPART GOLIATH             $ 14.95 
CLIPART HEAVEN           $ 19.95  CLIPART - TIMWORKS          $ 24.95 
CLIPMASTER PRO           $ 39.95  CMS REGISTRATION CD-ROM     $  5.00 
CNN NEWSROOM             $ 79.95  COLOSSAL COOKBOOK           $ 19.95 
COMPLETE BOOKSHOP        $ 14.95  COMPOSER QUEST              $ 37.95 
COMPTON'S FAMILY CHOICE  $ 49.95  COMPTON'S INTERACTIVE       $ 89.95 
COMPUTER REF. LIBRARY    $ 14.95  CONSUMER INFO DISC          $ 37.95 
COOKBOOK HEAVEN          $ 19.95  CORAL ART SHOW              $ 47.95 
CORAL DRAW 3.0           $ 79.95  CORAL DRAW 4.0              $479.95 
CORAL PHOTO HAWAII       $ 72.95  CORAL PHOTO WATERFALLS      $ 72.95 
CREATIVE KIDS            $ 44.95  CREATIVE STORIES            $ 49.95 
CROSSWORD CRACKER        $ 24.95  C USER'S GROUP LIBRARY      $ 34.95 
CYBERGENIC RANGER GAME   $ 19.95  DANGER HOT STUFF II         $ 19.95 
DAY OF TENACLE           $ 59.95  DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLE     $ 14.95 
DESKTOP BOOKSHOP         $ 17.95  DESKTOP IMAGER              $ 24.95 
DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGE  $ 14.95  DIGITAL DREAMS #2           $ 29.95 
DIGITAL DREAMS           $ 29.95  DINOSAUR ADVENTURE          $ 34.95 
DINOSAURS                $ 34.95  DUNE                        $ 44.95 
ELECTRONIC COOKBOOK      $ 37.95  ENCYCLOPEDIA MPC            $ 59.95 
EUROPEAN MONARCHS        $ 39.95  FABULOUS PHOTO              $ 19.95 
FAMILY DOCTOR            $ 29.95  FONT MASTER                 $ 14.95 
FRACTOOLS                $ 39.95  FRACTUNES                   $ 39.95 
FRESH ARTE               $ 39.95  FUTURA GAMES                $ 14.95 
GAME PACK II             $ 29.95  GAMEWARE COLLECTION         $ 29.95 
GARDENING                $ 14.95  GIFS GALORE (5000+ GIFS     $ 23.95 
GIGA GAMES               $ 29.95  GREAT CITIES 1              $ 33.95 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 9878
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/08/94  3:29p
Subj: CD-ROM Software 2 of 2                  Refer: NONE
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GREAT CITIES 2           $ 33.95  GUINESS RECORDS 93          $ 29.95 
HAM RADIO                $ 14.95  HAMCALL                     $ 49.95 
HOLY BIBLE               $ 24.95  HOSPITALITY INDEX           $ 37.95 
HOT SOUND & VISION       $ 24.95  IMAGES OF NASA              $ 29.95 
INTRACTV STORY TIME 2    $ 26.95  INTRACTV STORY TIME 3       $ 26.95 
INTRACTV STORY TIME      $ 26.95  JETS & PROPS                $ 29.95 
JONES IN THE FAST LANE   $ 27.95  KGB WORLD FACT BOOK         $ 34.95 
KINGS QUEST V            $ 27.95  KLOTSKI POLISH PUZZLE       $ 29.95 
KODAK PHOTO CD ACCESS    $ 24.95  LANGUAGES OF THE WORLD      $ 44.95 
LANGUAGES-ENGLISH        $ 37.95  LANGUAGES-FRENCH            $ 37.95 
LANGUAGES-GERMAN         $ 37.95  LANGUAGES-JAPANESE          $ 37.95 
LANGUAGES-SPANISH        $ 37.95  LEARNING ADVENTURE          $ 14.95 
LEARNING HEAVEN          $ 19.95  LEGAL GUIDE                 $ 14.95 
LETS PLAY (GAMES)        $ 14.95  LIBRIS BRITANIA             $ 49.95 
LOOM                     $ 29.95  MACMILLAN CHILDS DICTIO     $ 29.95 
MAD DOG MACREE           $ 49.95  MANTIS                      $ 19.95 
MAVIS BACON TEACHES      $ 29.95  MAYO CLINIC                 $ 29.95 
MIDI MUSIC SHOP          $ 29.95  MIRROR MIRROR               $ 14.95 
MIXED-UP MOTHER GOOSE    $ 29.95  MONKEY ISLAND               $ 29.95 
MOTHER EARTH II          $ 24.95  MOTHER OF ALL CLIPART       $ 17.95 
MOZART                   $ 24.95  MS DOS SIMTEL 20 ARCHIV     $ 17.95 
MULTIMEDIA AUDIO         $ 33.95  MULTIMEDIA MAJIC            $ 19.95 
NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC MAM  $ 29.95  NATIONAL PARKS              $ 29.95 
NEW VIEW OF SPACE        $ 29.95  NEWSWEEK INTERACTIVE        $ 29.95 
NIGHTOWL #10             $ 29.95  OCEANS BELOW                $ 29.95 
OLDIES BUT GOODIES       $ 14.95  OS/2 ARCHIVES               $ 17.95 
OUR SOLAR SYSTEM         $ 14.95  PC-SIG #12                  $ 29.95 
PETER & THE WOLF         $ 24.95  PHARMACIST GUIDE DRUGS      $ 39.95 
PHOENIX PHUN & GAMES     $ 19.95  PHYSICAL THERAPY ADULT      $ 29.95 
PRECISION MAPPING        $ 79.95  PROGRAMMER'S ROM            $ 39.95 
PROJECT GUTENBURG        $ 24.95  PUBLIQUE ART CLIP ART       $ 39.95 
Q&A ON CD-ROM            $ 59.95  QRZ HAM RADIO               $ 17.95 
RBBS-IN-A-BOX            $ 39.95  REEL CLIPS                  $ 24.95 
REFERENCE LIBRARY        $ 29.95  SECRET WEAPONS LUFTWAFF     $ 37.95 
SELECTWARE SOFTWARE      $  9.95  SHAKESPEARE                 $ 19.95 
SHAREWARE AVALANCHE      $ 39.95  SHAREWARE HEAVEN #1         $ 39.95 
SHAREWARE HEAVEN #2      $ 39.95  SHAREWARE ONLINE II         $ 29.95 
SHAREWARE OVERLOAD TRIO  $ 29.95  SHERLOCK HOLMES COMPLET     $ 19.95 
SHERLOCK HOLMES CONSULT  $ 39.95  SLEEPING BEAUTY             $ 24.95 
SO MUCH SCREENWARE       $ 37.95  SO MUCH SHAREWARE #2        $ 19.95 
SO MUCH SHAREWARE #3     $ 29.95  SOFTWARE TREASURE CHEST     $ 24.95 
SOFTWARE VAULT #2        $ 39.95  SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD         $ 24.95 
SOLAR HEAVEN             $ 19.95  SOPHISTICATED SANTE FE      $ 14.95 
SOUNDWARE COLLECTION     $ 29.95  SOURCE CODE CD-ROM          $ 24.95 
SPACE & ASTRONOMY        $ 24.95  SPACE ADVENTURE             $ 37.95 
SPACE QUEST IV           $ 29.95  SPACE SHUTTLE               $ 29.95 
STELLER 7                $ 29.95  STORM #2 ADULT              $ 24.95 
STORM #3 ADULT           $ 24.95  STORM 2/3 BUNDLE            $ 39.95 
STRAIGHT FROM HEAVEN     $ 19.95  SWIMWEAR 1993               $ 24.95 
TECH ARSENAL             $ 24.95  TECHNOTOOLS                 $ 14.95 
THE 7TH GUEST            $ 49.95  THE ANIMALS                 $ 29.95 
TIME TABLE HISTORY       $ 29.95  TOO MANY TYPEFONTS          $ 14.95 
TRAVEL COMPANION         $ 29.95  U.S. ATLAS  MM              $ 23.95 
U.S. HISTORY ON CD-ROM   $ 33.95  U.S. PRESIDENTS             $ 39.95 
U.S./WORLD ATLAS         $ 32.95  U.S.A. WARS: CIVIL          $ 39.95 
U.S.A. WARS: KOREA       $ 39.95  U.S.A. WARS: VIETNAM        $ 39.95 
U.S.A. WARS: WORLD       $ 39.95  USER'S CHOICE               $ 29.95 
VARIETY STORE            $ 14.95  VGA SPECTRUM I              $ 12.95 
VGA SPECTRUM II          $ 29.95  VISIONS OF SATURN           $ 24.95 
WAVE POOL                $ 19.95  WHERE IS CARMEN SAN DIE     $ 34.95 
WILLY BEAMISH            $ 29.95  WINDOWARE                   $ 14.95 
WORLD ATLAS  MM          $ 29.95  WORLD OF FLIGHT             $ 38.95 
WORLD OF TRAINS          $ 38.95  WORLD TRAVELER              $ 14.95 
WORLD VIEW               $ 24.95                              $  0.00 
 
$5.00 standard shipping per order.  CMS accepts Visa, Mastercard, 
check, cash COD, or money orders.  Personal checks take 7 days to 
clear the bank.  Money order will ship same day.  Please allow 
1-2 weeks shipping time.  2 day and next day air are also available. 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 9879
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/08/94  3:29p
Subj: New Adult CD-ROM Title                  Refer: NONE
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! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! 
 
                        The A.P.L. CD-ROM! 
 
The APL or Adult Picture Library is now available!  This CD-ROM 
is EXPLODING with 689 of R and X rated adult .GIF pictures, .GL 
movies, .DL movies, and .FLI animation!  All 100% high resolution 
pictures with very few pictures less than 100,000 bytes in size! 
This disc contains the following: 
 
     3,112 .GIF Pictures 
        84 .FLI Movies 
       168 .GL Movies 
        90 .DL Movies 
 
+ many programs and graphics viewing software for a GIANT 689 
MEG 100% PREMIUM QUALITY collection.  With most all of the 
pressing houses refusing to make adult CDs any longer this will 
surely be one if not the last new adult CD you will see.  Pick 
up your copy today! 
 
Now shipping.  $37.95 + $5.00 standard shipping. 
Dealer pricing is available.  Call for more information. 
 
Get ShareWare OnLine #2 for only $19.95 with purchase! 
 
Mastercard, Visa, personal check, company check, money order or 
cash COD orders are accepted. 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878   800-768-7929 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 9880
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/08/94  3:29p
Subj: CD-ROM Software Elimination             Refer: NONE
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                   CMS SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING 
                         P.O. BOX 165 
                     SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
                         812-442-0110 
 
                      Updated 01-08-1994 
 
Its a fact.  CMS is overstocked and to make room for the 
upcomming remodeling and expansion of CMS Software we MUST 
LIQUIDATE the following inventory.  Grab any of the following 
discs for $15 each, unless otherwise noted, while supplies last. 
Buy 7 and select one FREE.  We will hold nothing back until this 
inventory is GONE.  One of some titles and hundreds of others 
but it ALL must go.  Some discs are used and most are new but 
all are guaranteed against defects.  Dealers call now for bulk 
pricing.  You may grab as many as you like and pay only $5 
shipping.  You may place your order on Mastercard or Visa or we 
will ship your order COD for $5.00 additional.  You may mail 
your order with a personal check or money order to the address 
at the top of this ad. 
 
Barney Bear Goes to School      Physical Therapy Adult ($20) 
Sophisticated Sante Fe          1993 Multi-Media Bookshelf ($35) 
Barney Bear Goes to Space       Selectware Software 
TaxPrep 
Magnum One Shareware            Encarta 1994 ($45) 
American Business Phone Book 
FontMaster                      Software Toolworks Enyc. 1.5 ($30) 
LaserTax On CD-ROM              Sherlock Holmes Complete 
Clipart Goliath                 Bibles & Religion 
                                CIA World Factbook 
Black Box Shareware #4          Black Box Shareware #5 
Black Box Shareware #6 
Scary Poems For Rotton Kids     Career Opportunities 
Dictionaries & Languages        World Atlas 2.0 
2000 Pictures CD-ROM            Random House Dictionary ($30) 
                                So Much Shareware #2 
Software Treasure Chest         How CD-ROMS Are Made 
PC Gameroom 
DataBase Made Easy 
Super CD W/Super BBS 
Golden Immortal 
Storm #2 ($20)                  Storm #3 ($20) 
The CD ROM Collection           Fightsmart 
Shakespeare 
Adult Reference Library ($25) 
Middle East Diary               Time Almanac 
Quick Art Clipart               Front Page News 
Between Heaven & Hell II 
Ham Radio Shareware             Danger Hot Stuff 
Phoenix Phun & Games            Brain Drain Games 
Oldies But Goodies Games        Bed & Breakfast Photo Tour 
Mirror Mirror                   Reel Clips 
Futura Games                    Let's Play (Games) 
Variety Store (Games)           The Complete Bookshop 
Digital Dreams #2 Adult ($25) 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 9881
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/08/94  3:29p
Subj: CD-ROM Software Bundles                 Refer: NONE
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Look below for some great CD-ROM Software Bundles from CMS. 
All discs are IN STOCK ready for shipment. 
 
Software Tool Chest   $29.95   Physical Therapy Adult   - $29.95 
ShareWare OnLine #2 - $39.95   Adult Reference Library  - $29.95 
GameWare Collection - $29.95   SoundWare Collection     - $39.95 
Storm-2 Adult       - $22.95   Storm-3 Adult            - $24.95 
Digital Dreams Adult- $24.95   A.P.L. Adult             - $37.95 
User's Choice Windows $29.95   Swimwear                 - $22.95 
Digital Dreams 2    - $29.95   Software Treasure Chest  - $24.95 
 
User's Choice Windows          SoundWare Collection 
ShareWare OnLine #2            GameWare Collection 
    $49.95                         $49.95 
 
ShareWare OnLine #2            Storm-3 Adult 
SoundWare Collection           A.P.L. Adult 
GameWare Collection            Adult Reference Library 
User's Choice Windows              $59.95 
Software Treasure Chest 
A.P.L. Adult 
    $149.95 
                               User's Choice Windows 
Software Treasure Chest        ShareWare OnLine #2 
ShareWare OnLine #2            A.P.L. Adult 
    $44.95                     Storm-2 
                                   $79.95 
 
Storm-2 Adult                  Storm-2 Adult 
Storm-3 Adult                  Storm-3 Adult 
    $39.95                     A.P.L. Adult 
                                   $59.95 
 
Adult Reference Library        A.P.L. Adult 
Storm-2 Adult                  Physical Therapy Adult 
Physical Therapy Adult             $49.95 
    $69.95 
                               ShareWare OnLine #2 
A.P.L./User's Choice           A.P.L. Adult 
    $44.95                         $44.95 
 
CMS accepts Visa & Mastercard, check, M.O., and COD orders. 
$5.00 standard shipping on any order.  These prices are in 
effect for a short time only.  Get your orders sent TODAY! 
CMS does accept your trades!  PUBLISHERS: Call us to trade 
your titles for ours! 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
TELEPHONE: 812-442-0110 
 
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From: TONY DAVIS                             Number: 9882
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/08/94 11:33p
Subj: CATALOG                                 Refer: NONE
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 On 01-05-94 BORIS OSADCIW wrote to BORIS OSADCIW... 
 
 BO> *** Quoting Boris Osadciw to All dated 01-03-94 *** 
 BO> > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=[ F R E E   C A T A L O G 
 BO> ]=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 
 BO>  
   
 Please send me a copy of your catalog 
 
 Tony Davis 
 4606 Valhalla Dr. 
 Portsmouth,VA 23707 
 
 I have bought from you before. How come I never got a catalog? 
 
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From: TONY DAVIS                             Number: 9883
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/08/94 11:33p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
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 On 01-06-94 JOE RINEHART wrote to ALL... 
 
 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!************* 
 
Please send me a catalog 
 
Tony Davis 
4606 Valhalla Dr. 
Portsmouth, VA. 23707 
 
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From: JIM CANNING                            Number: 9884
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/07/94  2:47a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >                         ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
 > Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $110.00 30day
 > warrantee
 > Refurbished  NEC Model 36       CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day
 > warrantee

 >                     ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
 > Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no
 > warrantee
 > Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no
 > warrantee

If could elaborate on NEED TO BE REFURBISHED I might be very interesed in
buying a couple.

Jim Canning

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From: HERBERT SMITH                          Number: 9885
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/08/94  7:31p
Subj: Toshiba 3104 CDROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Have a SCSI Toshiba.  #3104.  $110 plus shipping.  719-481-2483.  Perfect for
OS2.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 9886
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 01/07/94  5:37p
Subj: SHOWOFF!                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Lee:

Got a call today from the Solana Software. The man was very appreciative of the
review I wrote as part of the BB V2 review. He wants me to be a beta tester for
the upcoming new version of Showoff!  Sounded like a really nice person (I
forgot to write down his name). I'm sure we'll be in contact down the road.
Thanks for the "exposure".

Ciao.

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From: MARK MCCONACHIE                        Number: 9887
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/07/94  8:24p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR=*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
  =For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
  =If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
  =We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
  =CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)

OK, shoot me a copy!

Mark McConachie
4535 W. Sahara
Ste. 105-29G
Las Vegas, Nv. 89102

 * QMPro 1.50 41-6232 * From the land of graft and corruption!

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From: ZACHARY HAMM                           Number: 9888
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94 10:16a
Subj: OS/2 2.1 CDROM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

OS/2 2.1 CD-ROM version.  Not registered.  With docs, This is not the OS/2 for
Windows version, and has windows included.

$85.00 plus shipping.


Zack Hamm
919-217-8333




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From: KEVIN DOUGLAS                          Number: 9889
  To: RAY MATTHEWS                             Date: 01/06/94  8:57p
Subj: Re: Flame? Anybody seen it??            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message dated  3 Jan 94  17:27:08, Ray Matthews wrote:

 RM>     Just wondering if anybody has tried to order this new Flame disc,
 RM> and if so, have they actually received it. I called in a COD order
 RM> about 3 weeks ago, and never heard anything since.

Ray, your Flame CD shipped Wed. 29th.

If you have still not received it by the time you read this, feel free to give
us a call and we will figure out what happend.  Our number again, in case you
don't have it handy is: 804-979-2035

Flame is shipping in volume from us and other distributors around the country.

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From: KEVIN BRANDON                          Number: 9890
  To: ALL W/CATALOGS                           Date: 01/07/94 10:29a
Subj: catalogs                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

send me your catalogs!!!!
i am a BIGGGGG spender guys!!!!!!
so send any catalogs to:
kevin r brandon
po box 495001
garland,tx
75049-5001

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From: DAVID HILL                             Number: 9891
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/08/94  2:16a
Subj: Used disks for sale/trade               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I have a few used disks to get rid of:

 Local Girls - (R-Rated pics) == $10
 Island Girls - (R-Rated pics) == $10
 Secret Weapons of the Luftewaffe (Flying game) == $12
 Kings Quest V (Adventure game -Requires Windows) == $12
 Microsoft Home Sampler (Free if you buy/trade for all four above)

 Price does not include shipping, COD, etc....

 Willing to trade for any other discs I don't already have.

 Thanks.....

 817-428-1219


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From: ROBERT BRIGGS                          Number: 9892
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94 11:53p
Subj: Cd's wanted                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HELP!!


        Need to purchase the following:

        Fun-N-Games CD  published last year

        "Seedy Rom Sex Pack" 6 volume set published last year.

===Bob Briggs  1:396/81


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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 9893
  To: JOYCE ZWEEDYK                            Date: 01/07/94  9:05p
Subj: Carmen san diego                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

This is a CD, not disks. Anyway, yes, I have docs and it an "original"
CD.....


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 9894
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 01/05/94 10:34a
Subj: Return to Zork sale/trade               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <27 Dec 93  15:26:11>, Heather Krause (1:280/333) writes:
 >Asking $35 (price includes postage), or make an offer.
 >Instruments CD. Have something else to trade? Give it a try, but
 >there's not much else I'm interested in right now!
How about trading for Day of the Tentacle on CD? It's a pretty neat game with
neat animation and no text to read. If interested reply here or call
307-766-7917 or E-mail 303/5.104 or Internet: Icebabe@PLains.Uwyo.edu


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 9895
  To: T. CURTIS                                Date: 01/05/94 10:56a
Subj: For Sale or Trade: Man Enough           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <03 Jan 94  01:37:30>, T. Curtis (1:387/31.23) writes:
 >        I have Tsunami's Man Enough for sale or trade.. All dox and box, 
 >two cd's.. Not even registered..
I will offer Women of Venus + $10 or $30 total for Man Enough.


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 9896
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/05/94 10:57a
Subj: Nightwatch Interactive                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for Nightwatch Interactive. I am willing to pay $30. Please reply
here or call 307-766-7917.


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From: MIKE BILOW                             Number: 9897
  To: ROBERT MOORE                             Date: 01/08/94  2:54p
Subj: Hitachi 3600 cd rom drive               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Jan 05 16:17>, Robert Moore of 1:0/0 writes:
                                            ^^^^^

 RM> @MSGID: 0:0/0 52c985a6
             ^^^^^

You don't have a valid Fidonet address set up.

 RM> Maybe you can help me.  We installed Novell 3.12 because 
 RM> it will directly support CD ROM drives; however, it seems that 
 RM> you have to load a CD ROM driver in order for the server to 
 RM> recognize the CD ROM card.

Yes, in a Novell file server, you need a *.DSK driver file for each adapter
card, whether CD-ROM or otherwise.

 RM> Do you know if Hitachi (or anyone 
 RM> else) makes a Novell 3.12 driver for the Hitachi/Todd CD-IFI8-S 
 RM> (8 bit) card?

Not to my knowledge.  Novell intends their CDROM.NLM subsystem to operate with
a SCSI subsystem.

 RM> Isn't there a 16 bit card for the Hitachi 
 RM> 3500/3600 series?  Do you know the 16 bit part number?

That's not the issue.  A Novell driver could be written to handle an 8-bit card
as well as a 16-bit card, but no manufacturer would be likely to bother.

 RM> Do you 
 RM> know if Hitachi or anyone else makes a Novell 3.12 driver for the 
 RM> Hitachi 16 bit card?

It would surprise me if such a thing existed.  There are two widely used
third-party software products which mount CD-ROM drives to a Novell file
server: CorelSCSI and SCSI Express.  As you can see, both require SCSI CD-ROM
drives.  There is also a little hardware box you can get that interfaces the
CD-ROM drives directly to an Ethernet wire, but that is also SCSI.

To the best of my knowledge, the only practical way to make your non-SCSI
CD-ROM drives available on a Novell network is to plug the controller card into
a workstation, load the usual DOS device support including MSCDEX, and then
install Map Assist.  The Map Assist product is designed to allow publishing a
workstation drive across the network, making it available as a network
resource.  Access is obviously slower this way, since the data must all be
routed, but it is better than nothing.

The only alternative I can think of, which is really not practical, would be to
use an OS/2 *.ADD driver if such exists.  Then you could install OS/2 on your
file server, and run the Novell/IBM "Netware for OS/2" as a process under OS/2.

 RM>  ! Origin: Alpha Centauri BBS - 3 Lines/8 CDROMS  (0:0/0)
                                                       ^^^^^^^

This is the same invalid Fidonet address.

 RM> @PATH: 275/47 53 1 3615/50 323/126 107
            ^^^^^^

I assume this is really you?  I would have replied by netmail if I had known
where to send the message.

-- Mike

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From: MIKE BILOW                             Number: 9898
  To: MARK DUDLEY                              Date: 01/08/94  3:12p
Subj: Re: BBS Limitation?                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Jan 06 05:56>, Mark Dudley of 1:3612/601 writes:

JL>> of file areas to be listed on demand.  136 different file 
JL>> areas is definitely excessive, especially when some of them 
JL>> only have one file 

 MD> That sounds an awefull lot like one of those source code 
 MD> cd-roms...

I take it you are referring to the Walnut Creek "Source Code" disk?  If so, you
may not realize that it is Unix-oriented.  Under Unix, things are naturally
grouped by directory, and it is easy to traverse the tree.  Permissions also
flow down the tree, so it makes management easier.  Even Unix BBSs tend to
follow this model.

It is really not grounds for criticism.  It is just a different way of doing
things.  Especially since this and many other source code disks are really
snapshots of the Usenet comp.source or alt.source newsgroup archives, it seems
reasonable to do things in a Unix style.

-- Mike

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From: MIKE BILOW                             Number: 9899
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/08/94 11:58p
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg on <Jan 06 03:11>, Joe Rinehart of 1:157/479@fidonet.org writes:

 >>  JR>                Internet alternate: joe@config.wariant.org

 >> That must be a wariant of the correct address, which I assume 
 >> is actually "joe@config.wariat.org"?

 JR>     Very Sorry Mike!  Yes you are absolutely right.

Glad to help you out.  I guess it is an indication that I am becoming too
familiar with the Internet when I can spot typos in other people's addresses.

 JR> I'm in the process of obtaining our own Internet address for our 
 JR> CD-ROM SUPPORT BBS, and this was the assigned address for me 
 JR> during the process.

Just FYI, Internet terminology is that you are obtaining a domain name as part
of your mail address.  "Internet address" implies a physical IP address for
your machine.  

 JR> I'll be correcting my ad's very fast as 
 JR> this may account for the drop of Internet e-mail I've 
 JR> recently experienced.

That would certainly do it!

 JR> Again many thanks & BTW, did you 
 JR> write me recently in regard to an "Interactive disc", if so 
 JR> I have some great news & a deal "below wholesale" for you, 
 JR> especially for pointing this error out;-)

That's very generous of you, but I think you have me confused with someone
else.  I was looking for the Info-Magic series of disks, including their
"Internet Standards."  Yggdrasil also puts out an interesting Linux disk that I
have been looking for, which supposedly allows running Linux directly from a
(SCSI) CD-ROM drive without installing to the hard drive.

My interests lie mostly in OS/2 and programming.  My BBS is oriented toward
networking, TCP/IP, and similarly technical stuff.

-- Mike

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From: BO SHORT                               Number: 9900
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/08/94  8:47p
Subj: KQ VI CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have several copies of the Multimedia Version of Sierra's Kings Quest VI on
CD-ROM for Sale.  I got an awesome deal on these and am selling each
shrinkwrapped copy for $30.00.  Leave a message if interested.

Bo Short

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9901
  To: STEVE PESANT                             Date: 01/09/94  2:39a
Subj: Re: Pacifc Rim Computer Convention      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 6 Jan 94 09:49pm, Steve Pesant wrote to Boris Osadciw:

>>    Hi there Boris,

>>>    Thought I read you were heading up to vnacouver for the 
>>>    computer show on jan 17, 18, 19 is that right......

 BO>> From the looks of it Red, there's a strong chance we'll be there. From
 BO>> there, we'll be off to Florida for a few days and then to Texas and
 BO>> then to Atlanta. GA.

>>    GREAT...If you'll be there, I'll see ya...Finally some more 
>>    dealers dropping by Vancouver...If you're gonna show up , 
>>    bring some of your biggest and best selling CD's .... I should 
>>    be in a great buying mood come that weekend. 8) 

It should be a lot of fun Steve! In fact, we hope to be bringing along
one of the first Pioneer 18 disk changer and the new 602X systems
along with us as DEMO unit's ONLY. We were told by Pioneer to bring the
whips and chains with us for crowd control....grin!

Hope to see yea there.....



Boris Osadciw

... Every Silver lining has a clone around it.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9902
  To: CLIF DANIEL                              Date: 01/09/94  2:39a
Subj: Re: Bookshelf/Encarta                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 6 Jan 94 09:16pm, Clif Daniel wrote to All:

>>    Would like to find copies of MS Bookshelf MPC ( Windows ) as 
>>    well as MS Encarta. Looking for a fair deal on new and or used.
>>      

We have MS Bookshelf for windows in the OEM package for $35. As for
MS Encarta, we have that as well, but it's priced much higher and
is a boxed title.

Intrested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to
assist you further.



Boris Osadciw

... Rodney King joins FidoNet!....."Can't we all just get along?"
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9903
  To: STEPHEN MAXWELL                          Date: 01/09/94  2:39a
Subj: Re: Multidisk CDROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 4 Jan 94 08:35pm, Stephen Maxwell wrote to all:

-=>> Note:
>>    Copied (from: trade) by Stephen Maxwell using timEd.

>>    Hello all!

>>    I am curious if anyone has seen the multidisk (jukebox) cdrom 
>>    drives for sale, and if anyone is using such a beast. How much 
>>    would I pay for one? 

There's several units out Stephen and thier made by Pioneer.

You have the 602X, which is a 300ms drive with a 307kps transfer rate.
The there's the 604X which is a 300ms drive with a 614kps transfer rate
and finally theres the new up comming 1804X which will be and 18 disk
changer that will offer 300ms access time and a 614kps transfer rate.

So you see, there are a number of units available with an assortment
of features. If you need further assistance, please feel free to
give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to assist
you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Mail Media. Do not expose to Flames!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9904
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/09/94  2:39a
Subj: HOT CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            C R E A M     O F     T H E     C R O P    I I

OVER 654 MEGS New Shareware   4987 Files Dated '93'  Dup Checked
Virus Checked                 Files.BBS Support      Multi Line Discription
Mouse Support Menu            14Megs Prog Code       Plus MORE !!!
Only 200 prog Older Than April '93' - 10% Dup to NO10, Pier3, Software Gold

DEALERS WELCOME.......      PRICE - $25.

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263   FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BOB HAMILTON                           Number: 9905
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94 10:06a
Subj: Shadowland Joins CDROM ForSale          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello to all!  Shadowland BBS has joined the CDROM Forsale echo.  I am located
in Regina, Saskatchewan Canada.  I presently run one 6 disk CD player and I'm
thinking of adding another if I can find one for a reasonable rate.
 
I wonder if someone could let me know the name of the moderator and fill me in
on any rules I should know.
 
Thanks.
 
Bob.
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From: BOB HAMILTON                           Number: 9906
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/08/94  9:43a
Subj: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 >  * SLMR 2.1a * I still miss my ex-wife, but my aim is getting
 > better.

That isn't funny.
 
Bob.
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From: BILL RORABACK                          Number: 9907
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/08/94 11:36a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey Joe,
        How about sending me a catalog, also anyone else who has a catalog.
Thanks, From the Southern Submarine Capitol of the USA.
                    Bill Roraback
                    2A Harriet Oaks
                    Woodbine, Ga. 31569

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From: KEVIN DOUGLAS                          Number: 9908
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94  7:23p
Subj: Flame XXX Adult CD!  Hot!!! New!!!      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Flame adult CD shipping in volume! Five hours to see it all (once)!
 
Flame highlights:

** over 3000 'straight' adult explicit 'fantasy' GIF files,  
   brightness/contrast adjusted for VGA monitor display
** pure images without distracting BBS ads, logos or duplications 
** files with similar image content are placed in 19 named directories 
** BBS-ready FILES.BBS (name,size,date,resolution/color depth) listings for
   each image category
** no minors, violence, animals or text files
** NOMSSI and SVGA viewers run straight off the CD!
** type NV to start the slideshow-easy NOMSSI viewer 
** type SVGA to start the SVGA viewer
 
Some samples of the 19 areas on disk include>
 
Directory       Megs    Images
Backdoor        42      224 
Bigbras         24      127
Groups          25      147
Females only    40      231  
Oral            85      496
Toys            27      177 
Transsex        8       61

Flame is $39.00 plus shipping from Silicon Software.  We take AMEX, Visa, MC ,
prepaid personal check and COD/cash orders. Reseller volume orders are also
handled.  Call us 24hrs at 804-979-2035, FAX 804-979-4319, BBS 804-979-2487.
Also you can request a free catalog of all of our CD-ROM titles (astronomy to
zoology) 
 
Thanks,
Kevin Douglas

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From: AL AGEE                                Number: 9909
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/08/94 12:34p
Subj: Custom cds                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I'll put 640mb of your data on an ISO 9660 standard CD           for $75.
(Additional copies cost $49 each, shipping is $5/order)                        
                                          If you don't have a tape drive, I
will restore from 1.44mb       floppies for $0.25 each additional.             
                                                                               
 Advantages include:                                              - Speed      
- My 10ms HD is only four times faster than CD.    - Cost        - CD costs
$75, tape $100, 1.4mb floppy $200.      - Security    - It can't be changed. No
virus threat.            - Convenience - It's like adding another hard drive.  
                                                                             o
Make your own shareware disk.                                  o Organize those
huge graphics files.                            o Put your BBS on CD instead of
buying another hard drive.       o Distribute your data to several sites.      
                  o Back up your entire LAN or BBS.                            
                                                                  Send QIC-80
or QIC-40 DC2120 tapes and cashiers check to:        Allen Agee, 52 Sleepy
Hollow Rd, Andover NJ 07821.               If you have questions, call me voice
at (201)786-7716 evenings.
===
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From: MIKE ROARK                             Number: 9910
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/08/94  9:39a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Joe!

Thursday January 06 1994 06:27, Joe Rinehart wrote to All:

 JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.

Include me in the list.

Mike Roark
PSC 75 BOX 8365
APO AE 09719

Thanx


Mike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 9911
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/08/94  4:03a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICES pt 3                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 January 1994            DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST        Last update: 1/4
 ********************************* 3 of 3 *********************************

 Guy Spy.......................29.50    STW MPC Encyclopedia..........44.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............29.00    Super Games for DOS...........10.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................12.00    Super Games for Windows 1.....10.00
 Ham Radio/Scanner Companion...23.50    Super Games for Windows 2.....10.00
 Hamware 1993..................23.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........33.00
 Health & Medical Directory....27.50    Tech Arsenal..................21.50
 Hobbes OS/2 10/93.............16.00    Technotools...................12.00
 Hollywood the Bizarre (NEW)...39.50    Tempra Access Photo Software..19.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......35.00
 Home Designer (NEW)...........29.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Home/Office Legal Guide.......12.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Horror & Sci-Fi Films (NEW)...39.50    Timetable of Business/Politic.26.00
 House of Games................18.50    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Images of NASA (NEW)..........25.00    Too Many Typefonts............12.00
 Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00    Total Baseball 1992...........24.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Total Baseball 1993...........28.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Total Heart by Mayo Clinic....49.00
 Interactive Story Time 3......29.00    Trump Castle..................23.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    U.S./World Atlas MPC..........25.00
 Int'l Graphics Library........27.50    U.S. Atlas MPC................23.00
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....29.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Jets & Props..................28.50    U.S. History..................29.00
 Jewel Cases................... 1.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Jokes & Pranks................12.00    U.S. Wars: Civil War..........34.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............39.00    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............34.00
 King's Quest V................20.00    U.S. Wars: WWII...............34.00
 King's Quest VI (Retail Box)..39.00    USA Today: The 90's (NEW).....36.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    VGA Spectrum 1................13.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........19.00    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 La Coleccion (Spanish S/W)....19.50    Video Movie Guide (NEW).......28.50
 Lan Master....................25.00    Virtual 3D (w/ glasses!)......28.50
 Language Discovery (NEW)......19.00    Virtual Reality Starter Kit...49.00
 Languages of the World........37.00    Wave Pool (NEW)...............19.00
 Learning Adventure............12.00    Who Killed Sam Rupert.........21.90
 Learning Heaven...............19.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Library of the Future #1......39.00    Wildcat Gold..................20.50
 Libris Britannia..............34.00    Win Platinum..................22.00
 Linux.........................27.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Loom..........................19.00    Windoware.....................12.00
 Mac Multimedia Space..........29.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Mac Shareware.................19.00    Windows Collection (NEW)......26.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........29.00    Wing Commander 2 Deluxe.......39.30
 Macromind Action..............32.00    Wing Commander 2/Ultima U.W...41.50
 Mad Dog McCree................39.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Mailer's Lookup (NEW).........27.50    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Majestic Places...............38.50    World Atlas MPC ..............23.00
 Mantis........................24.00    World Fact Book M/M...........23.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..25.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............26.00    World Traveler................12.00
 Mega Clipart..................20.20    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf 1992 MPC..32.50    World Vision 3-Pak............39.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..49.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00
 Microsoft Cinemania 1993 MPC..52.00    X11R5/GNU.....................23.40

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * It's Ensign Pillsbury....he's bread Jim.

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From: DON HALSEY                             Number: 9912
  To: STEVE PESANT                             Date: 01/08/94  4:24p
Subj: !FREE CD CATALOG!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HEllo Some of us in HAwaii are reallyinterested in cd-rom, but are unable to
get them at decent prices...or can't even get them through our local retailers.
if you could pls send me a catolog.
MY address is as follows:
Don Halsey
PMRF BARKING SANDS
KEKAHA HI 96752

                                       THX


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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9913
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/09/94  2:00a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)44k
DESCRIPT FREQ: descript.zip   (about 800 cd-rom disc descriptions)70k
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9914
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/09/94  2:01a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
                        ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $110.00 30day warrantee
Refurbished  NEC Model 36       CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee

                    ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee

                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
14.4 Power supply..................$10.00 ea.
external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
Shipping (drives)$25.00 for up to 2 drives,$40.00 for 3-4 drives.

                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
offering all
refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit, to be
shipped
upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30 days for
receipt of
your refurbished drive.

                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariat.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: KAWAI WONG                             Number: 9915
  To: CHRIS CONKLIN                            Date: 01/08/94 11:43p
Subj: Jfk Cdrom                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I currently have 3 copies of JFK in stock at $45.00 plus shipping.
-> Let me know if you would like one, give me a call or leave a post and I'll
-> be more than happy to get one right out to you!

        If they are $15 a piece, I'll take one...

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From: AUDIE VICKERS                          Number: 9916
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 01/07/94 11:52p
Subj: Re: Montgomery vs noga et               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

LN>Don't mean to sound like I am hopping your back, it's just that this case is

  Hey, babe.  Hop MY back ( or any other part ) anytime!!!

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 9917
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/09/94  2:26p
Subj: CDROM Specials                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

               PCJ Computing - "After Holidays SPECIALS"
Prices effective 1/10 to 1/22/94 - No Exceptions. While Stock Lasts.
              ORDERS-615-339-0235 (9-6) FAX-615-479-1047
 
7th Guest (OEM Disc + manual)..33.95  Mayo Clinic.............19.95
Art History Encyclopedia.......19.95  Grolier v1 MPC (WIN)....24.95
All New Clipart+Graphic Tools..22.95  Return to Zork (OEM)....29.95
Just Grandma & Me (OEM)........25.95  US/World Atlas with Mavis
Library of Future (450 books)..26.95  Beacon & Chessmaster....28.95

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From: ANDY BRICK                             Number: 9918
  To: RICHARD PEEK                             Date: 01/09/94  1:20p
Subj: CD Rom for Trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Would you trade for the Ultima6/Wing Commander I CD? If so please leave me a
message as I am interested in a possible trade. Thanks

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From: CHUCK WARREN                           Number: 9919
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 01/09/94 12:33p
Subj: Hitachi 3600 cd rom drive               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> CW>    What kind of discount for 6 in a 8-box?
->
->  I have a package deal for the 8 box ( A $1,000  value ) for  $960
->  including shipping and c.o.d.    At $99 a drive I  can't  offer a
->  discount  unless  you  will  buy a  quantity  of  50   or   more.

   Guess I'll have to hang on to the 6-disc for now.  Thanks.

   Chuck


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From: CHUCK WARREN                           Number: 9920
  To: LARRY ADAMSON                            Date: 01/09/94 12:34p
Subj: Re: Pioneer 6 Cd-Changer                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Chuck, I will make you an offer. $200.

   You just saved $200!

   Chuck


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From: CHUCK WARREN                           Number: 9921
  To: MICHAEL CHOWNING                         Date: 01/09/94 12:35p
Subj: PIONEER 6 CD-CHANGER WANT               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  >    I have one I might be interested in letting go!  Make me an
->  > offer!
->
-> Chuck, is there a voice number where I can reach you?  If you haven't
-> might be interested if the price is right.

   The least I would accept would be $550 plus shipping.  I only want to
sell it because I'm now running multi-line and the system is slowed when
multiple users try to access the CD's.  My plans are to switch to single
units.

   Chuck


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From: CHUCK WARREN                           Number: 9922
  To: EUGENE BAUGUESS                          Date: 01/09/94 12:39p
Subj: 6 CD-Changer                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Chuck I am interested in the Pioneer 6 CD-Changer, is it a DRM600 or
-> what do you have with it and how much do you need for the unit.

   I'm going to continue using CD's, but on a single drive basis.  It's
the DRM600 and I can throw in the Future Domain 8-bit controller.
Running the DRm with multi-line tends to slow the system down, depending
on the BBS software you're using.  I'd like to get $550 minimum plus
shipping.  There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with the unit, just no
longer meets my system requirements.

   Chuck


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From: DEREK STUTSMAN                         Number: 9923
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/08/94  4:24p
Subj: CD Catalog Request                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Joe,

Send me a copy too!

Derek Stutsman
804 Eagle #21
Denton Texas
76201



Derek Stutsman
 * Wave Rider 1.02 Beta # 153 *
... Yeah, lemme speak to Brett Weir!
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From: ED KOFRON                              Number: 9924
  To: JOHN MAR                                 Date: 01/08/94  5:22p
Subj: looking for a CD ROM DRIV               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

John, Try a Toshiba 3401B. Probably the nicest drive on the market
right now. It is SCSI interface and has a 256K buffer. It will run you
about 5 bills.
              Good Luck.


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From: ALAN ORNDORFF                          Number: 9925
  To: JASON WAGNER                             Date: 01/09/94  7:52a
Subj: Iron helix & criticl path               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JW>   Hmmm... thanks for the info.  I wonder if this is a bug or something?
  >   I really think the game looks good, but if its that hard, screw it <G>

JW>   However, I'll see if I can find out something more about it (like if
  >   anyone has beat that robot) and let you know if I find anything.

You can't beat the robot.  Your operating a drode with no defenses.  I
haven't beaten any levels on it yet, but my little brother has.
bastard <g>  All in all, its a good game, and for a cd-rom game, on his
slow drive, it plays pretty good.

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From: DARREN JAGGERS                         Number: 9926
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/09/94  8:54a
Subj: cd-rom wanted                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking to buy a cd-rom, but it must be external because I have no more
slots in my computer face. I want one fast enough to be able to run gifs.
Anyone know or have one forsale leave me a message.  Thanks!

... This copy of GEdit has been unregistered for 42 days.
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From: JIGER DESAI                            Number: 9927
  To: JOHN MAR                                 Date: 01/08/94  8:18p
Subj: Re: LOOKING FOR A CD ROM DRIVE KIT      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JM> Howdy I would appreciate some help for looking for a CD ROM
JM> drive.  My specificatons for the drive is that it comes with
JM> everything not just the bare drive has a data transfer rate of
JM> around 350kb to 450kb, I plan tho use the drive as a multi-media
JM> device, so it should be able to use the 8 bit sound card I have.
JM> I am shopping around alot, but I would appreciate any advice or
JM> opinions that any of you have on any CD ROM drives that are out
JM> in the market. Any advice would be appreciated.
 
  Sorry if my mesage quoteing is messd up. But you you know of a company
called "Tiger Software," well they have some good CD-Roms, have
doublespeed(300Kb/s) and triple speed(450Kb/s). They have some good bundle
deals also. if you want the number I can look it up for you, and if you still
have questions just "reply" back...
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From: JOE MOORE                              Number: 9928
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/08/94  7:34p
Subj: !Free Cd Catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
Joe,
 Please send a free catalog to:

Joseph Wm Moore
138 Johnson Pt Rd
New Bern, NC 28560
                                                                               
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From: JAMES POLLOCK                          Number: 9929
  To: DAVID HILL                               Date: 01/09/94  2:55a
Subj: Re: Used disks for sale/t               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting David Hill to All <=-

 DH> Local Girls - (R-Rated pics) == $10
 DH> Island Girls - (R-Rated pics) == $10

I'm interested in these two if still available.

... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: MIKE FURST                             Number: 9930
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/09/94  3:20p
Subj: Adult CD Trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Greetings,
 I have the following for trade:

1. Giffy Gold

2. Amature Models

 I would like to trade for other Adult CD's.

Please, only 18 or older.
                                  Thanks,
                                       - Mike

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From: DEREK STUTSMAN                         Number: 9931
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/09/94  2:51p
Subj: 7th Guest for Mad Dog McCree            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey!

I will trade any of you guys my 2-week old T7G for a copy of Mad Dog 
McCree.

My disc is in-the-box with all docs etc intact, expect same.

This also comes with a VHS tape: The Making of T7G.



Derek Stutsman
 * Wave Rider 1.03 Beta # 153 *
... Large fries, pie, large coffee.  PRONTO!
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From: JASON CHANCELLOR                       Number: 9932
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/08/94  1:00a
Subj: CD Recorders                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey,
    I am in the market to purchase a CD Recorder and was wondering if someone
could point me in the right direction.  What I am looking for is a recorder
that will record Sound CD's from my mitsumi CD-Rom drive and can also record
plane files from my hard drive.  Of course it is necessary that it records in a
way that other types of CD-Rom drives can read.  I've glanced through Computer
Shopper and have noticed 2 main brands.  Philips and Ricoh.  Ricoh is much
cheaper and I was wondering what the difference is.  I am also very open to
suggestions on other recorders, but am looking to keep the cost right at 4000
dollars and preferably below.  Speed of the recorder is not an issue at all.  A
single spin drive would be fine.  If anyone has one that is used I would also
take that as a consideration.  Thanks for your time.

    Jason Chancellor
    Can be reached through Net-Mail at 1:124/8005

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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 9933
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 01/09/94  9:13p
Subj: PowerBox II                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Dave

> Happy New Year!
Same to you

 > Damar Enterprises announces ANOTHER new release!

 >                           The CD PowerBox Version 2.00
 >
 When an the heck is a new CD Winbox comming out!!!!!!!!!

Need some win32 apps for WFWG, win32 and NT

..Red..

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From: MARK PAYNE                             Number: 9934
  To: CHRIS CONKLIN                            Date: 01/09/94 10:56p
Subj: Seedy 6-Pac $99                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you accept a VISA payment for the seedy ROM ?
I live in Toronto, can I call you collect with info ?
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From: PAUL BOWMAN                            Number: 9935
  To: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                         Date: 01/08/94  2:03p
Subj: Garage Sale (or Trade)...               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi I was wondering how much you are asking for on the 14,400k modems and
the sega genessis games. Also what are you accepting in trade.
Thanks


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 9936
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 01/09/94 12:48a
Subj: Corel                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Ismail!

I was thinking about buying CorelDraw on CD-ROM.  Do you have any opinion about
their products?  Has Corel been good for your business?

Later,

Dave

... If Windows sucked, at least it would be good for something.

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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 9937
  To: DAVID HILL                               Date: 01/09/94 12:39p
Subj: Re: Used disks for sale/t               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting David Hill to All <=-

 DH> I have a few used disks to get rid of:

 DH> Local Girls - (R-Rated pics) == $10
 DH> Island Girls - (R-Rated pics) == $10
 DH> Secret Weapons of the Luftewaffe (Flying game) == $12
 DH> Kings Quest V (Adventure game -Requires Windows) == $12
 DH> Microsoft Home Sampler (Free if you buy/trade for all four above)

If these are all CD's, I'll take them for $40 delivered and I'll pre-pay.
 
... Voice: 919-870-6926 (eves/weekends)
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From: JON SCHWARTZ                           Number: 9938
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 12/31/93  1:01a
Subj: CD CATALOG                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi could you please send me a cd-rom catalog my address is:

Jon Schwartz
16691 SW 5 Ct
Ft Lauderdale, Fl.
33326


 * OLX 2.1 TD * I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it?

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From: JON SCHWARTZ                           Number: 9939
  To: KEN ISBELL                               Date: 12/31/93  1:04a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KI>JL>If you are looking for great prices on the latest CD-Roms, give us a
KI>JL>call or post your address, and we will be glad to send you our latest
KI>JL>price list.  We also have a 44 page catalog complete with descriptions

     Hello Jim,

   Could you send us your catalogue?
     Jon Schwartz
     16691 SW 5 Ct
     Ft Lauderdale, Fl. 33326
Thanks

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 9940
  To: HOWARD ONEIL                             Date: 01/11/94  5:38p
Subj: Trade Wanted                            Refer: 13197
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->        The following prices are based according to hardware seen on
->       ECHO and will be         Traded on a FIRST COME, FIRST SERVED
->       basis.  All are GUARENTEED AGAINST D.O.A. or will be REPLACED.
->
->  - HARD DRIVES -   SPEED  TYPE  CAP.   HEIGHT    CONDITION    PRICE

Howard, please only advertise CD ROM products...

tim
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 9941
  To: MICHAEL GIUNTOLI                         Date: 01/10/94  9:51a
Subj: Re: Hitachi 3600 cd rom drive           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 Michael  Giuntoli  wrote   in  a   message   to   Terry   Blount:

MG>         Terry, Tell me this,  My  system  is  currently  running
MG> with an ide  controller and a scsi  controller.  Should  i  have
MG> any problem hooking up one of    your  propitiatory  cards  with
MG> the equiptment already installed..

 No.  The only conflict I have found  with  these  drive  and  any
 other equipment is with Chinon drives  and  that  can  be  easily
 fixed by changing the address of the Chinon drives.   The  Chinon
 drives use addresses like 300  302 304... etc.   that  apparently
 isn't enough difference between addresses  to  prevent  conflict.
 If the Chinon drives are  set  to  320  or  higher  the  conflict
 disappears.

MG> I have alot of Irq's already used up.

 The   interface   card   (TDC-IF8)   does    not    use    Irq's.

MG> Already have 2 hardrives, soundcard,
MG> voicemail card, 3  modems, 1 cdrom, both floppys.

 I'm   sure   these   drives   will    "chime"    in    perfectly.

MG>               And do you take  charge  cards?  If  so  leave  me
MG> the details..

 Sorry, I'm not set up to take plastic.  As you may  already  know
 I'm in the business of distributing Cream of the  Crop  shareware
 cd discs and my distributors like Boris and Joe pay  on  delivery
 with a company check.  I got these  drives  in  order  to  make a
 little   profit  I   could   use   to   upgrade   my   own   bbs.

 Thanks for your  inquiry.

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From: KEITH LOONEY                           Number: 9942
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 01/09/94 10:56p
Subj: Re: Lights Out                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

First off, this has no business in this echo at all. Secondly this is
a hoax. Someone in the media called Illinois to confirm this story and
the Illinois state police have no knowlege of this happening. File
this story with the ax murderer hiding in the back seat of the car at
the mall story.

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From: KEITH LOONEY                           Number: 9943
  To: RICK SHELTON                             Date: 01/10/94 11:23a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol 1 For Sale!         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

When you come done to earth, I'll give you $50 for it. I've heard of
it going for up to $150 myself, but you have to find someone who wants
it bad enough. :)

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From: KEITH LOONEY                           Number: 9944
  To: L RICHARD JOHNSON                        Date: 01/10/94 11:25a
Subj: Re: CDROM Drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Don't mean to butt in, by can you tell me how one goes about pressing
charges against someone  in another state. I'm having the same type of
problem. I sent a money order for $88 and the item was never shipped.
I have the money order receipt and messages that I downloaded from
GEnie with the guy even claiming that the item wasn't shipped and he
wasn't sending me a refund.

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From: RUSSELL GOULD                          Number: 9945
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/08/94  6:29p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

please send one to
G & A Software
6 Main St.
Carolina, RI 02812

thanks
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From: JOHN LITTLE                            Number: 9946
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 01/10/94  9:11a
Subj: Hitachi 3600 cd rom drive               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Interested in trading an 8 pack (your $960 special) for a USR HST 21.6
V.32terbo Dual Standard modem?  Upgradable to V.34 (V.FAST) for $99 when the
standard come out.  Class 2.0 fax built in.
Also, will these drives work under OS/2 2.1?
John
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From: JOHN LITTLE                            Number: 9947
  To: MATT BEDTELYON@1:348/300                 Date: 01/10/94  9:16a
Subj: Hitachi CDR-3600 CD-ROM's               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you accept trades?  How about a USR HST 21.6 V.32terbo Dual Standard with
2.0 FAX (external) for 8 drives, controller, drivers, cable, enclosure, and 8
caddies?  The same setup your competition (the bargain basement wholesaler) is
selling for $960.
John Little
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From: DAVID RYDER                            Number: 9948
  To: CHRIS CONKLIN                            Date: 01/10/94 12:14a
Subj: SEEDY 6-PAC $99                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


CC> Then we will be out of the Adult CD ROM business and concentrate on
  > other CD ROM products.....

CC> Give me a call or post if you are interested.

    Chris, will you be listing here, or sending catalogs out with your
    new products?

    BTW, I haven't forgotten about the NO5.  Just waiting to see what
    else was available.


			David.
 Entered Jan 9,94 from Mississauga, Ontario.    rn.1063@rose.com
   
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From: SCOTT BRANDT                           Number: 9949
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/10/94 10:59a
Subj: Iron Helix                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Iron helix & criticl path
BY: Jason Wagner (1:309/9)

I've check it out, and it is difficult. Your probe has no defenses, and you
just have to work on avoiding the 'defender'. You do get a map of the level you
are on, so you can see if the defender is on it or not. I've already found 3
DNA samples, now I just have to figure out how to use them.

 Indy

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 9950
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/10/94  9:01p
Subj: Re: Multidisk CDROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <09 Jan 94  02:39:08>, Boris Osadciw (1:157/46) writes:

 >You have the 602X, which is a 300ms drive with a 307kps transfer rate.
 >and finally theres the new up comming 1804X which will be and 18 disk
 >changer that will offer 300ms access time and a 614kps transfer rate.
What are the prices on these two puppies? 

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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 9951
  To: MIKE BILOW                               Date: 01/10/94  9:46p
Subj: Hitachi 3600 cd rom drive               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the tips on the Hitachi CDR3600 CDROMs.  Did my origin line come
out ok this time?
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From: JOHN TAYLOR                            Number: 9952
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/10/94 12:54p
Subj: Indiana DateLine, 812-33-DATES          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Indiana DateLine (tm), VoiceMail Introduction Service for singles! 
Call now for free subscriptions during selected hours (812)        
33-DATES, (812) 333-2837  Call Now!  Hundreds of Indiana Singles!!!
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 9953
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/10/94 11:59p
Subj: User's Choice Windows CD                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

             ***** New Release From CMS ***** 
 
          !!!!! THE PERFECT CHRISTMAS GIFT !!!!! 
 
         ** The User's Choice Windows Archive ** 
 
This disc contains 674 MEGABYTES of Windows (TM) and Windows 
related software!  This brand new archive contains a well 
rounded collection of everything you can imagine for Windows. 
 
This CD is BBS ready with multi-line file descriptions included 
for use with PCBoard, Spitfire, and other BBS software.  This 
CD is filled to near capacity.  Below is an idea of what is 
included on this new CD. 
 
For a detailed file listing call the CMS support BBS at 
812-898-2561 and look in file area #3.  Available first call. 
HST 14,400 online. 
 
Now shipping!  $29.95 + shipping. 
 
     MASTER DIRECTORY INFORMATION FOR: User's Choice Windows Archive 
 
  DIRECTORY NAME     # OF FILES     TOTAL DIR SIZE    AVERAGE FILE SIZE 
------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
 
    \BMP                 597          52,045,856            87,179 
    \DEMOS               107          36,699,344           342,985 
    \DRVRS               188          35,598,120           189,352 
    \DT                  320          19,347,468            60,461 
    \MISC1               442          49,591,180           112,197 
    \MISC2               471          44,340,448            94,141 
    \SND                 709          28,458,186            40,138 
    \TRUETYPE            410          15,188,178            37,044 
    \UTILITY1            353          31,131,692            88,192 
    \UTILITY2            326          29,949,432            91,869 
    \UTILITY3            281          17,233,922            61,331 
    \WAV                 462          24,777,100            53,630 
    \WINDOWS1            368          26,157,714            71,081 
    \WINDOWS2            234          17,390,996            74,320 
    \WINDOWS3            127           9,027,428            71,082 
    \WINDOWS4            254          16,199,350            63,777 
    \WINDOWS5            377          37,847,440           100,391 
    \WINGAMES            451          25,957,276            57,555 
    \WIN_A_D             499          33,426,814            66,988 
    \WIN_E_H             239          16,486,184            68,980 
    \WIN_I_L             143          10,912,175            76,309 
    \WIN_M_P             301          22,537,884            74,877 
    \WIN_Q_T             337          20,480,492            60,773 
    \WIN_U_Z             494          40,391,104            81,763 
---------------------------- ------------------- ----------------- 
 
T O T A L S:           5,945         674,175,808            77,877 
 
 
Order TODAY from: 
 
    CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
                TELEPHONE: 812-442-0110 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 9954
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/10/94 11:59p
Subj: Panasonic CD-ROM Drives                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

IN STOCK READY FOR SHIPMENT!        VISA/MASTERCARD ACCEPTED 
 
Panasonic 562 double spin drives.  Will hook up directly to the 
Sound Blaster Pro card.  300K/Second data transfer rate!  Complete 
kit with everything you need to use the drive.  $229.95 complete. 
Prices reflect a 3% discount for cash. 
 
CMS, SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
812-442-0110 9 am to 9 pm Indiana time. 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 9955
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/10/94 11:59p
Subj: CD-ROM Software Elimination             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   CMS SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING 
                         P.O. BOX 165 
                     SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
                         812-442-0110 
 
                      Updated 01-11-1994 
 
Its a fact.  CMS is overstocked and to make room for the 
upcomming remodeling and expansion of CMS Software we MUST 
LIQUIDATE the following inventory.  Grab any of the following 
discs for $15 each, unless otherwise noted, while supplies last. 
Buy 7 and select one FREE*.  We will hold nothing back until this 
inventory is GONE.  One of some titles and hundreds of others 
but it ALL must go.  Some discs are used and most are new but 
all are guaranteed against defects.  Dealers call now for bulk 
pricing.  You may grab as many as you like and pay only $5 
shipping.  You may place your order on Mastercard or Visa or we 
will ship your order COD for $5.00 additional.  You may mail 
your order with a personal check or money order to the address 
at the top of this ad.  * Free CD must be $15 or less.  A small 
insurance fee is added to each order. 
 
Barney Bear Goes to School      Physical Therapy Adult ($25) 
Sophisticated Sante Fe          1993 Multi-Media Bookshelf ($35) 
Barney Bear Goes to Space       Fresh Arte Clipart 
Magnum Sight & Sound            Audubon's Birds MM ($20) 
American Business Phone Book    Hamware 1993 ($20) 
FontMaster                      Toolworks MM Enyc. 1.5 ($30) 
LaserTax On CD-ROM              Consumer Guide to CD-ROMs 
Clipart Goliath                 Bibles & Religion 
Black Box Shareware #4          Black Box Shareware #5 
Colossal Cookbook               Career Opportunities 
2000 Pictures CD-ROM    Random House Unabridged Dictionary ($30) 
ShareWare OnLine II             So Much Shareware #2 
Software Treasure Chest         Crossword Cracker 
PC Gameroom                     LookUp 9 Digit ZIP Lookup ($25) 
DataBase Made Easy              Swimwear 1993 
Super CD W/Super BBS            AB20 Amiga Archives 
Storm #2 ($20)                  Storm #3 ($20) 
Mother Earth II                 Fightsmart 
Adult Reference Library ($25)   So Much Modem Madness ($20) 
Middle East Diary               Time Almanac 
Quick Art Clipart 
Between Heaven & Hell II        Digital Dreams #2 ($25) 
Ham Radio Shareware             Danger Hot Stuff 
------------------------------------------------------------ 
Grab the following titles for only $10.00 each while supplies 
last.  1 of some and 100's of others but all will surely go 
quickly so get you orders in today. 
 
Phoenix Phun & Games            Brain Drain Games 
Oldies But Goodies Games        Bed & Breakfast Photo Tour 
Mirror Mirror                   Reel Clips 
Futura Games                    Let's Play (Games) 
Variety Store (Games)           Taxprep 
Selectware Software 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 9956
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/10/94 11:59p
Subj: CD-ROM Software Bundles                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Look below for some great CD-ROM Software Bundles from CMS. 
All discs are IN STOCK ready for shipment. 
 
               ***** SINGLE CD PRICING ***** 
 
Software Tool Chest - $29.95   Physical Therapy Adult   - $29.95 
ShareWare OnLine #2 - $39.95   Adult Reference Library  - $29.95 
GameWare Collection - $29.95   SoundWare Collection     - $39.95 
Storm-2 Adult       - $22.95   Storm-3 Adult            - $24.95 
Digital Dreams Adult- $24.95   A.P.L. Adult             - $37.95 
User's Choice Windows $29.95   Swimwear                 - $19.95 
Digital Dreams 2    - $29.95   Software Treasure Chest  - $24.95 
 
              ***** BUNDLED CD PRICING ***** 
 
User's Choice Windows          SoundWare Collection 
ShareWare OnLine #2            GameWare Collection 
    $44.95                         $49.95 
 
ShareWare OnLine #2            Storm-3 Adult 
SoundWare Collection           A.P.L. Adult 
GameWare Collection            Adult Reference Library 
User's Choice Windows          Physical Therapy Adult 
Software Treasure Chest        Storm-2 Adult 
A.P.L. Adult                       $119.95 
Software Tool Chest 
    $149.95 
                               User's Choice Windows 
Software Treasure Chest        ShareWare OnLine #2 
ShareWare OnLine #2            A.P.L. Adult 
    $39.95                     Storm-2 
                                   $69.95 
 
Storm-2 Adult                  Storm-2 Adult 
Storm-3 Adult                  Storm-3 Adult 
    $39.95                     A.P.L. Adult 
                                   $69.95 
 
Adult Reference Library        A.P.L. Adult 
Storm-2 Adult                  Physical Therapy Adult 
Physical Therapy Adult             $49.95 
    $69.95 
                               ShareWare OnLine #2 
A.P.L./User's Choice           A.P.L. Adult 
    $44.95                         $44.95 
 
CMS accepts Visa & Mastercard, check, M.O., and COD orders. 
$5.00 standard shipping on any order.  These prices are in 
effect for a short time only.  Get your orders sent TODAY! 
CMS does accept your trades!  PUBLISHERS: Call us to trade 
your titles for ours! 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
TELEPHONE: 812-442-0110 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 9957
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/10/94 11:59p
Subj: New Adult CD-ROM Title                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! 
 
                        The A.P.L. CD-ROM! 
 
The APL or Adult Picture Library is now available!  This CD-ROM 
is EXPLODING with 689 of R and X rated adult .GIF pictures, .GL 
movies, .DL movies, and .FLI animation!  All 100% high resolution 
pictures only around 12 pictures less than 100,000 bytes in size! 
This disc contains the following: 
 
     3,112 .GIF Pictures 
        84 .FLI Movies 
       168 .GL Movies 
        90 .DL Movies 
 
+ many programs and graphics viewing software for a GIANT 689 
MEG 100% PREMIUM QUALITY collection.  Pick up your copy today! 
 
Now shipping.  $37.95 + $5.00 standard shipping. 
Dealer pricing is available.  Call for more information. 
 
Get ShareWare OnLine #2 for only $19.95 with purchase! 
 
Mastercard, Visa, personal check, company check, money order or 
cash COD orders are accepted. 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878   812-442-0110 
 
A.P.L./Adult Reference Library - $59.95 
A.P.L./Storm-2 Adult - $49.95 
A.P.L./Physical Therapy - $54.95 
 
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From: ROBIN HARDISON                         Number: 9958
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/10/94 12:52p
Subj: Turbo DUO 4 sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey All

I have a Turbo DUO for sale with the following:

Games:
Gates of Thunder (Super CD game)
Bonk's Adventure
Bonk's Revenge
Bomberman
Y's I & II (CD)
Legendary Axe II (hu card)
Ninja Spirit (hu card)
Fighting Street (CD - original Street Fighter)
Forgotten Worlds (Super CD)

DUO tap 5 player adapter
2 DUO pads
1 TG-16 Python 4 joystick

Box and all manuals.  Make RESONABLE offer.  This system sells for $289
with one controller.



ÄÄÄ¿
   ÀÄÄÄ> Robin Hardison

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From: DICK WALSH                             Number: 9959
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/09/94  9:18a
Subj: !FREE CD CATALOG!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You just hit the point    What other networks do you subscribe too
I can get the CD ROM   CDSAL and I would like to know what else is out there
that I am missing.  <Dick>

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From: GREG BRIDGEWATER                       Number: 9960
  To: L RICHARD JOHNSON                        Date: 01/10/94  6:34a
Subj: Re: Cdrom Drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LR> I give three days to respond.

Just a comment without knowing anything about the circumstances...
You can't depend on timeliness of echo mail, let alone that it will
always get to the intended destination.  Recommend you use another, more
reliable method such as USnail Mail with return receipt.  3 days is
not a reasonable time for transmission and reply in the echos.
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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 9961
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 01/10/94 11:15a
Subj: Bbv2 For Trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MJ> Have Busty Babes Volume II (newest release in this series)
MJ>available
MJ> in trade for another adult CD; looking for Southern Beauties or
MJ> similar "quasi-recent, soft-type" CD.  MUST state 21+...
MJ> thanks in advance.

MJ> )\/(ark

MJ>... "Spock, you Vulcan Idiot!" -- a miffed Capt Kirk, stardate
MJ>unknown
MJ>___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


Mark,
How about trading your BBII for Animated Fantasies?  Let me know.
Greg

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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 9962
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 01/10/94 11:20a
Subj: Lights Out                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HP>Originally from Manny Gonzalez
HP>Originally in Young Adult Forum


HP>       *** R E A D   T H I S   A N D   S H A R E   W I T H   A L
HP>L ***

HP>                                   12/11/93


HP>  We have been made aware of a prominent situation presently
HP>occuring
HP>  in Virginia, Los Angeles, Chicago, Baltimore and now in New
HP>York.
HP>  Please take the time to read this message and inform your
HP>family
HP>  members and friends. This awareness and precaution is important
HP>for
HP>  both drivers and passengers, whether at home or traveling on
HP>business
HP>  or pleasure.

HP>  There is a new gang initiation. This new initiation of murder
HP>is
HP>  brought about by gang members driving around with their car
HP>lights
HP>  off. When you flash your lights to signal them that their
HP>lights are
HP>  out the gang members take it literally as "lights out", so they
HP>follow
HP>  you to your destination and _KILL YOU_!!! That's their
HP>initiation.

HP>  Several families have already fallen victim to this initiation
HP>ritual
HP>  in the St. Louis and Chicago areas.

HP>  This information should be given widespread distribution on
HP>your
HP>  respective territories and posted on all bulletin boards.
HP>_Bewareand
HP>  inform your famiies and friends_. _Do not flash your car lights
HP>for
HP>  anyone_.

HP>  The above information was furnished by the Illinois State
HP>Police
HP>  Department.


HENRY,
It's a hoax.  It's being spread all over the country.
Greg

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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 9963
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/10/94 11:31a
Subj: adult cd                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have ANIMATION FANTASIES and I'd like to trade for another adult cd,
preferably BB II or Storm 2 or 3.  Any takers?
Greg

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From: JESSE SCHMELZER                        Number: 9964
  To: KEVIN DOUGLAS                            Date: 01/09/94  9:03p
Subj: Re: Flame? Anybody seen it??            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message on <06-Jan-94 20:57:00> Kevin Douglas (1:2618/101) wrote:

 KD> In a message dated  3 Jan 94  17:27:08, Ray Matthews wrote:


 KD> Flame is shipping in volume from us and other distributors around the
 KD> country.

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How much for The Flame cd??

 Jesse

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From: BRIAN ELFERT                           Number: 9965
  To: ROBERT MOORE                             Date: 01/09/94  1:39p
Subj: Hitachi 3600 cd rom drive               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> know if Hitachi or anyone else makes a Novell 3.12 driver for the Hit
-> bit card?  Thanks in advance for your help.  I would also like to ord
-> of your CDR3600 drives and several eight drive cases with power suppl
-> can reach me by voice at 804/340-9138.

Netware 3.12 can only support SCSI drives on the server with CDROM.NLM.
Almost all CD-ROM drivers for Netware 3.1x are for SCSI drives.  It will
be pretty much impossible for you to find Netware drivers for your
CD-ROM drives.

Brian


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 9966
  To: MIKE FURST                               Date: 01/10/94  8:59a
Subj: Re: Adult CD Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MF> 1. Giffy Gold

How about FAO 3 (For Adults Only) trade for the above.
Randy Neuner



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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 9967
  To: JAMES POLLOCK                            Date: 01/10/94  9:06a
Subj: Re: Used disks for sale/t               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DH> Local Girls - (R-Rated pics) == $10
 DH> Island Girls - (R-Rated pics) == $10

How about FAO 3 adult disc for both of the above.
Thanks
Randy Neuner


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From: ROBERT BRIGGS                          Number: 9968
  To: CHRIS CONKLIN                            Date: 01/10/94  8:41p
Subj: Seedy rom 6-pack                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Chris,

        DO you have copies of the SEEDY-ROM Sex pack for sale?
        I'll take one.....

===Bob Briggs   1:396/81


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From: RICHARD LEIGHTON                       Number: 9969
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/09/94  9:31a
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Joe Rinehart to All <=-

 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
 JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
 JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
 
        Please send me one of your Catalogs. 
        
        Richard Leighton
        2410 Dornoch Street
        Springfield, OR 97477

                                        Thanks 
                                        Richard

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From: RICHARD LEIGHTON                       Number: 9970
  To: RICK SHELTON                             Date: 01/10/94  8:31a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol 1 For Sale!         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Rick Shelton to All <=-

 RS> Hello All!

 RS> I still have the Busty Babes v1 #1 for sale. This is a collectors
 RS> item, make me an offer. 

        Hi Rick, I'll give you $ 30.00 for it shipped.

                                        Let Me Know
                                        Richard



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From: ALLEN DIETZ                            Number: 9971
  To: MARIO LERMITTE                           Date: 01/10/94  6:24a
Subj: Used CD-ROM discs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ML> AD> The Bible Library (Ellis Enterprises)     $20.00
ML>Please I'am interest in this one. Please give more details and let's say $25
ML>for sending it to Belgium???

Hello Mario,

The Bible Library has The King James Version, Cross References, the
New King James, the American Standard, the Living Bible, the New
International, the Revised Standard, the Simple English, the
Romanized and the Romanized unaccented Bibles.  It also contains a
bibliography, the Eaton Illustrated Dictionary, the Elwell
Evangelical Dictionary, the Gray Home Bible Commentary, the Henry
Concise Commentary, the Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah, the
Literal Translation, the Micro Bible, Osbeck's 101 Hymn Stories,
Sermon Outlines, Strong's Greek Dictionary and Strong's Hebrew
Dictionary.

Yes, I'll take $25 and send it airmail to Belgium.  Be sure to print
your address clearly so I'll know where to send the disc.  Confirm
here that you want it and send me a money order in U.S. Funds as
soon as possible.  The disc will go out the day I get your money
order.  If I don't hear from you in 2 weeks, I'll assume you no
longer want the disc.

Allen


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From: ALLEN DIETZ                            Number: 9972
  To: MARIO LERMITTE                           Date: 01/10/94  7:43p
Subj: Used CD-ROM discs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ML> AD> The Bible Library (Ellis Enterprises)     $20.00
ML>Please I'am interest in this one. Please give more details and let's
ML>say $25 for sending it to Belgium???

Mario, Sorry, I forgot to include my address in the last message.
Mail me a money order for $25 in U.S. Funds and the Bible Library is
yours.  Mail the money order to:

Allen Dietz
P.O. Box 19243
Austin, TX  78760-9243
USA

Thanks,

Allen


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From: SCOTT RUBY                             Number: 9973
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/10/94 10:42p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Joe Rinehart to All <=-

 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
 JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...

Please send to Scott Ruby, 10706 Sierra Oaks, Austin Tx 78759  THX!

 
... If it ain't broke, let me have a shot at it.
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From: SCOTT RUBY                             Number: 9974
  To: ALAN EVANS                               Date: 01/10/94 10:51p
Subj: CD-ROM Software 2 of 2                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Alan Evans to All <=-

AE>  WHERE IS CARMEN SAN DIE     $ 34.95 

Is this the "Deluxe version".  Is this new in the box with registration
cards etc?  It will be a gift so the "presentation" will be important.

 AE> $5.00 standard shipping per order.  CMS accepts Visa, Mastercard, 
 AE> check, cash COD, or money orders.  Personal checks take 7 days to 
 AE> clear the bank.  Money order will ship same day.  Please allow 
 AE> 1-2 weeks shipping time.  2 day and next day air are also available. 

I need an address or phone number.  What's the rate on 2 day air?


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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 9975
  To: DJDJDJDJDJD                              Date: 01/09/94  8:07a
Subj: ALL                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for the CD "The Random House UNABRIDGED Dictionary. The PC Mag article
appeared to indicate it would work under DOS or Windows??? Thanks

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From: MARTIN YEE                             Number: 9976
  To: DAVID HILL                               Date: 01/09/94  2:56p
Subj: Used disks for sale/trade               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DH> Local Girls - (R-Rated pics) == $10
DH> Island Girls - (R-Rated pics) == $10
DH> Kings Quest V (Adventure game -Requires Windows) == $12 I'm interested in
the above. See anything on my list that might interest you.

Macmillan Dictionary for Children MPC CDROM The Animals! MPC CDROM OS2.1 Beta
Version w/professional dev. kit CDROM Willy Beamish 3.5HD Ambush at Sorinor
3.5HD

Martin Yee

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From: AMY MOODY                              Number: 9977
  To: AUDIE VICKERS                            Date: 01/10/94  8:53a
Subj: Surge protector                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> AM>Sorry no need for a surge protector...have a UPS.  I could however
-> use anoth AM>one if you happen to have one of those laying around
-> somewhere.

-> ...you could build your own for just a couple of bucks.  Can't tell
-> you how here, though, wrong echo.  Gimmie a call if interested.

I know...my husband built the one we have.  Thanks for the suggestion though.

SEEYA!
  Amy

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From: BRIAN WOODBURY                         Number: 9978
  To: BO SHORT                                 Date: 01/10/94 12:13p
Subj: KQ VI CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

does the $30 include shipping?
brian

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From: DARREN CASTLEBERRY                     Number: 9979
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/10/94  2:53a
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Joe Rinehart to All <=-

 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
 JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
 JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.

I'll take one!

Darren Castleberry
4507 Chestergate 
Spring, TX 77373
(713) 355-1619


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From: DARREN CASTLEBERRY                     Number: 9980
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/10/94  3:00a
Subj: Re: Cd-drives Plus                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Joe Rinehart to All <=-

 JR> CD-ROM Drives
 
 JR> ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
 JR> caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
 JR> power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
 JR> Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
 JR> Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
 JR> 14.4 Power supply..................$10.00 ea.
 JR> external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
 JR> Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
 JR> SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
 JR> 40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
 JR> Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
 JR> Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
 JR> Shipping (drives)$25.00 for up to 2 drives,$40.00 for 3-4 drives.

Can you help me? I have a LMSI CM-205 and I need the data ribbon cable
for it! If you can help me, PLEASE let me know!

Darren Castleberry
4507 Chestergate
Spring, TX 77373
(713) 355-1619



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From: DARREN JAGGERS                         Number: 9981
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/10/94  9:47p
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I was wanting to know if you have any external cd-rom (refurbished) drives for
sale?

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From: L RICHARD JOHNSON                      Number: 9982
  To: GREG BRIDGEWATER                         Date: 01/11/94  3:39a
Subj: Re: Cdrom Drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Greg Bridgewater to L Richard Johnson dated 01-09-94 ***
>  LR> I give three days to respond.
> 
> Just a comment without knowing anything about the circumstances...
> You can't depend on timeliness of echo mail, let alone that it will
> always get to the intended destination.  Recommend you use another, 
> more
> reliable method such as USnail Mail with return receipt.  3 days is
> not a reasonable time for transmission and reply in the echos.
> ___ Via Silver Xpress V3.02
> 

I know. But it gets the point across. They have gotten a message from this echo
the next day so I know it could be there and back in roughly 3 days. I didn't
really expect any reply anyway. Next message will be registered mail<G>.

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From: GENE GEIGER                            Number: 9983
  To: ROBERT BRIGGS                            Date: 01/11/94  6:21a
Subj: Busty babes vol 1 for sal               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RB>RS>I still have the Busty Babes v1 #1 for sale. This is a collectors item,
  >RS>make me an offer.

RB>I'll go $5 better than the last offer I saw made for it:  $30 shipped.

RB>It's only a collectors item if someone is interested in collecting it. Hope
  >you didn't get sucked in by that "its worth $500" scam.......

And I'll go yet another $5 for a total of $35 shipped.  -=Gene=-
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From: DANNY BRIGANCE                         Number: 9984
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/10/94 11:56p
Subj: CDROM's                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

Cookbook Heaven:  $20.00
Bible Library:    $20.00

plus shipping

Danny

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From: MARK DUDLEY                            Number: 9985
  To: MIKE BILOW                               Date: 01/11/94  3:15p
Subj: Re: BBS Limitation?                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB> I take it you are referring to the Walnut Creek "Source Code" disk?  If so,
MB> you may not realize that it is Unix-oriented.  Under Unix, things are
MB> naturally grouped by directory, and it is easy to traverse the tree. 
MB> Permissions also flow down the tree, so it makes management easier.  Even U
MB> BBSs tend to follow this model.

Actually no, it was a different one, with DOS source codes...

MB> It is really not grounds for criticism.  It is just a different way of doin
MB> things.  Especially since this and many other source code disks are really
MB> snapshots of the Usenet comp.source or alt.source newsgroup archives, it se

When they put one file in a directory, 6 directories deep, and there are some 
40 entries like that, yes, it is grounds for criticism. If they are focusing 
on UNIX, then fine, sell it as a UNIX disk, but if they want DOS users to be 
able to use it, then they need to orginize it a little better.

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From: ROB MITCHELL                           Number: 9986
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/10/94 11:11p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 01-06-94 Joe Rinehart wrote to All... 
 
 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!************* 
 JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog... 
 JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us. 
 JR> We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request. 
 JR> CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available) 
 JR>         Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org 
 JR>     FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176 
 JR> Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours 
 JR> P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244 
 JR> Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<< 
 JR> 
 JR> 
Joe, could you send me a copy of the catalog? 
Rob Mitchell 
Master Microsystems 
2302 6 St SE 
Calgary, AB 
Canada 
 
Many Thanks 
 
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From: ANDY BRICK                             Number: 9987
  To: TONY GRANATOWSKI                         Date: 01/10/94  8:55p
Subj: Re: T7g & loom trade                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Tony Granatowski to All <=-

 TG> Hey all:

 TG> I have The Seventh Guest and Loom up for trade....  Any offers?

 I have the Utima 6 /Wing Commander I CDrom for trade. Interested?
 Let me know. Later



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From: ROD WILEY                              Number: 9988
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/10/94 12:45p
Subj: I want                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi all. Anyone out there have a cd game called Mad Dog Mcrea they wish to sell?
I recently seen this and thought it was great, so I'm willing to buy if anyone
is willing to sell. Post here in this echo or you can reach me by voice at 515-

672-2287.

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9989
  To: DICK WALSH                               Date: 01/11/94  3:02a
Subj: Re: CD'S FOR SALE                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 7 Jan 94 09:23am, Dick Walsh wrote to Boris Osadciw:

>>    Boris  send it to the node you see on the end of the board but 
>>    please make sure it has the Adult Listing with it.  I will 
>>    delete the adult listings here and put the rest of it on the 
>>    BBS.    I will give the adult stuff in private mail to anyone 
>>    who requests it.   OK!!  <Dick> 

OK Dick, we'll do just that !! But we'll be removing the Adult portion
and we'll be placing it in a seperate files as to not affend those who
do not wish such information. Here again, this file is only for those
over 21 and no one under that age should be allowed access to it. Please
make sure these instructions are followed.

Hopefully, we'll have a new update very soon now that will contain even
more cd's than before, something like 1,500 + titles are now being added
to the new list and that doesn't enclude the 200+ other computer relaited
products.

This should keep you and your friends very busy, I hope....grin!

Til then, take care and I'am sure we'll be chatting very soon.



Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9990
  To: RICK PEDLEY                              Date: 01/11/94  3:02a
Subj: Re: New cd's                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 8 Jan 94 08:28pm, Rick Pedley wrote to Boris Osadciw:

BO>>Rick, netmail us your request to the fidonet address below and we'll
provide
BO>>you with several authors that would be happy to have your program on thier
BO>>cd's

>>    Thanks a lot Boris, will do.

Not a problem Rick, glad we're able to help.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 9991
  To: TONY DAVIS                               Date: 01/11/94  3:02a
Subj: Re: CATALOG                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 8 Jan 94 11:33pm, Tony Davis wrote to Boris Osadciw:

>>     On 01-05-94 BORIS OSADCIW wrote to BORIS OSADCIW... 
>>     
 BO>> *** Quoting Boris Osadciw to All dated 01-03-94 *** 
 BO>> > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=[ F R E E   C A T A L O G 
 BO>> ]=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 
 BO>>  
>>       
>>     Please send me a copy of your catalog 
>>     
>>     Tony Davis 
>>     4606 Valhalla Dr. 
>>     Portsmouth,VA 23707 
>>     
>>     I have bought from you before. How come I never got a catalog?
>>     

Ahhhhhaaaaa, probably because the demand was greater than the supply ??? <g>

I'll see that one get sent to you.

Thanks for requesting it, I think you'll like what you'll see.

Boris Osadciw

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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON                  Number: 9992
  To: SAM BECKWITH                             Date: 01/10/94  9:26p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you have a catalog for all these discs?  If so, send it ASAP to

C E Bourguignon
293, North St #5
Aylmer, Qc
J9H 6V9
CANADA

Thanks


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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON                  Number: 9993
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/10/94  9:28p
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you carry CD caddies for the NEC 3xi model CDR-500 drive?  Also, I am also
looking for a wire to connect my CD-ROMs audio out jack to my sound boards CD
in jack...  Do you have this wire...?

Thnaks in advance.
Chris


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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON                  Number: 9994
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/10/94  9:30p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send your catalog to:

C E Bourguignon
293, North St #5
Aylmer, Qc
J9H 6V9
CANADA

Thanks in advance.
Chris


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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON                  Number: 9995
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/10/94  9:33p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICES pt 3                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

I would be interested in a catalog if available:

C E Bourguignon
293, North St #5
Aylmer, Qc
J9H 6V9
CANADA

THANKS
CHRIS



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From: FERNANDO ROBLES                        Number: 9996
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/09/94 11:19a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories
 > CATALOG!*************
 > For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW
 > catalog...
 > If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing
 > information to us.
 > We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.

Hiya Joe,

Please send a catalog to me.

Fernando Robles
1345 Chew St.
Allentown, PA   18102

Thanx.

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From: CHRIS CONKLIN                          Number: 9997
  To: ROBERT BRIGGS                            Date: 01/10/94  9:32p
Subj: Cd's wanted                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Robert,

    I (as of this time and date) have one set of Seedy Six Pack left for $99.00
including shipping.  It is brand new and still factory sealed.

Let me know if you are intersted.....    I accept MO, Check or will ship COD
for $4.00 extra.....

C-3 Production Systems
PO Box 60144
San Angelo, Tx   76906

915-944-7187  (Evenings are best)


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From: CHRIS CONKLIN                          Number: 9998
  To: KENNETH ROACH                            Date: 01/10/94  9:35p
Subj: JFK Available $39                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am currently offering JFK for $39.00 plus shipping

Let me know if you are interested

C-3 Production Systems
PO Box 60144
San Angelo, Tx  76906

915-944-7187  (Evenings are best)


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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 9999
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/11/94  6:46a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)44k
DESCRIPT FREQ: descript.zip   (about 800 cd-rom disc descriptions)70k
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10000
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/11/94  6:46a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
                        ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $110.00 30day warrantee
Refurbished  NEC Model 36       CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee

                    ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee

                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
14.4 Power supply..................$10.00 ea.
external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
Shipping (drives)$25.00 for up to 2 drives,$40.00 for 3-4 drives.

                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
offering all
refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit, to be
shipped
upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30 days for
receipt of
your refurbished drive.

                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariat.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: GREG COBB                              Number: 10001
  To: JOSE VISBAL                              Date: 01/11/94  6:52p
Subj: cd-rom info                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



>Can some tell me if the Mitsumi FX001d can read 680 Megs CD
>disks...?

From the way I have understood it, all drives should be able to read pretty
much the same discs.  But to enlighten you on something...I have 3 discs that
say they are 50 to 80 meg more than they really are.  DOS and Norton say about
608 Meg, and the disc says 680 or so.  Another one says over 660 Meg and it's
really about 597Meg.  I wouldn't worry too much about a disc not running in a
drive though.

-G-


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From: GREG COBB                              Number: 10002
  To: JOE LANDRITH                             Date: 01/11/94  6:54p
Subj: Western Digital 420MB IDE Hard Drive - $345 < LOW PRICE!!  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* Check out what Joe Landrith was going off to All about *

>          Western Digital 425MB IDE
>
>      425MB, 12ms, 128k Cache, 3.5", HH
>
>  LOW PRICE >>   *** $345 ***   << LOW PRICE

Dude, does this use a CD?  If not, you hit the wrong echo.


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From: GREG COBB                              Number: 10003
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/11/94  7:07p
Subj: HOT CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

>MR:> BO>             C R E A M     O F     T H E     C R O P    I
>I
>MR:> BO> DEALERS WELCOME.......      PRICE - $25.
>
>MR:>How about some sort of Mailing address?? There are many of us
>that would lik
>MR:>to take advantage of this but the international calling costs
>are a bit much
>
>Mike,
>
>We have these in stock at $25.  Our address and other info
>follows.
>
>Later,
>.\\ike
>
> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS:
>509-457-2892
> FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER *
>S/H: $4.00

Damn, talking about snagging a sale....


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 10004
  To: JOHN LITTLE                              Date: 01/11/94  9:17a
Subj: Hitachi 3600 cd rom drive               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 John   Little   wrote   in  a   message    to    Terry    Blount:

JL> Interested in trading an  8  pack  (your  $960  special)  for  a
JL> USR HST 21.6 V.32terbo  Dual  Standard  modem?    Upgradable  to
JL> V.34 (V.FAST) for $99 when the standard come out.

 Sorry... I can't take trades.

JL> Also, will these drives work under OS/2 2.1?

 I don't have those drivers  (because  they  are  commercial)  but
 they  can  be  purchased  from  Todd  Enterprises.   There   is a
 cdrom_g.sys file floating  around  that  you  can  use  in a  vdm
 window. This is version or equivalent of Mscdex that won't return
 "incorrect dos version"  when  you  run  it  under  an  os/2  vdm
 window.


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From: GUY ROTTY                              Number: 10005
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/08/94 11:02a
Subj: NEW 1994 CD-ROM LIST! pt1               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

04-Jan-94, Mike Shannon wrote to All
           Subject: NEW 1994 CD-ROM LIST! pt1

Mike,
I'm interested in the following Cd-roms :

 7th Guest OEM.................39.00
 Night Owl 10.1................30.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..49.00

Please let me know how to order and how to pay
I have Visa




ÄÄÄ¿
   ÀÄÄÄ> Greetings from Guy Rotty

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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 10006
  To: CHARLES TYLER                            Date: 01/10/94  2:03a
Subj: Rebel Assault Passcodes                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Charles Tyler
CT> Does anyone have the passcodes for all of the levels of Rebel

Falcon will get you past that.  If you want more I can give you a couple
more, but I don't want to let you CHEAT too much. <g>
 
  SMRead 3.3  #?    
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 10007
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/10/94  1:47p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hi Mike,
A friend of mine is in need of your catalog.
He doesn't have a modem so that's why I am posting his request..
Please send to: 
      
             Mike Duncan 
             2235 Raintree Rd. 
             Harrisburg, IL. 62946 

Thanks....
-Joe
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From: JOHN PRESTON                           Number: 10008
  To: CHUCK WARREN                             Date: 01/10/94  4:00p
Subj: 6 CD-Changer                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Chuck Warren to Eugene Bauguess dated 01-09-94 ***
>    I'm going to continue using CD's, but on a single drive basis.  It's
> the DRM600 and I can throw in the Future Domain 8-bit controller.
> Running the DRm with multi-line tends to slow the system down, 
> depending
> on the BBS software you're using.  I'd like to get $550 minimum plus
> shipping.  There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with the unit, just no
> longer meets my system requirements.
Im running the 6 disk changer on multinode 4 nodes... I just let it put the
files on the hd in temp dirs..for each node then people can dl from the hd and
another node can be putting files in their tem dir for dling.. the only proble
i have is if 2 people want diferent disks at exactly th same time and the disk
wil bounce from drive to drive.. Ive never seen it happen only
experimenting..Thats where the system will choke a little..btw were runing tag
2.6f1..

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From: DEL GUTIERREZ                          Number: 10009
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/11/94  9:51a
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send a copy of the catalog to:
   Del Gutierrez
   305 Rio Estancia Dr.
   El Paso, TX 79932-2326
                                  Thanks in advance,
                                  Del G.

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From: DAVID V. DILLARD III                   Number: 10010
  To: RICK SHELTON                             Date: 01/10/94  7:08a
Subj: Busty Babes Vol 1 For Sale!             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Rick!

06 Jan 94 22:57, Rick Shelton wrote to All:

 RS> I still have the Busty Babes v1 #1 for sale. This is a collectors item,
 RS> make me an offer.

Is there a way to outwardly tell the collector's edition from any "normal"
Busty Babes Volume 1?  My disc is red over the top third with "BB" and "Volume
#1" in silver within the red.

Cheers.....

.....Dave

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From: RICARDO E MOSQUERA, MD                 Number: 10011
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/10/94 10:15a
Subj: CD ROM CATALOG                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CAN YOU SEND ME
YOUR FREE CATALOG

MY NAME IS RICARDO E MOSQUERA
        8581 NW 54TH STREET
        MIAMI, FLORIDA  
 

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From: JOHN MAR                               Number: 10012
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/10/94 11:08p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

please send one to:
John Mar
1710 Shiloh
Wichita, KS. 67207

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From: LOUIS GHINIS                           Number: 10013
  To: JD BROWN                                 Date: 01/10/94 10:58p
Subj: Refund                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Nice solution, unless there is a brick in the box.

 Hehe that would be unfortunate. But seriously if send COD teh mailman
can let you open the package first to see what is supposed to be inside
is inside before paying the COD order.  Did this once when this guy over
the phone promised us that we would make us win the big screen tv if we
buy $300 worth of pens.  So when the mailman came we asked to open up
the box so he let us and we scratched it and found out that it was for
an atari console system worth $50 so we told the mailman here send it
back.

Louis
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From: JAMES CLEVENGER                        Number: 10014
  To: JAMES PATTERSON                          Date: 01/10/94  1:57p
Subj: Re: JAGUAR/3DO                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Customer support... from Atari?  That's quite a concept!  ;-)
 
Wow, when did they install a 1-800 number?
 
P.S. Do you happen to know when they will release the CD-ROM gadget for the
Jaguar, and do they plan on such a thing for the Falcon?


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From: CHRIS BRADLEY                          Number: 10015
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/08/94  2:45p
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for a shareware disk with as much of the following as
possible...

We need a shareware CD-ROM with lots of great VGA/SB games Tons of
BBS utilities, and all the other normal utils and files that come on
CD-ROMs...  All as new as possible and the disc needs to have AT
LEAST one MACINTOSH file area...(We have a lot of Mac Users)

Anybody know where to find a CD-ROM such as this?

ADVthanxANCE

Chris BD

... This tagline is especially for kleptomaniacs!
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From: ERIC OLSON                             Number: 10016
  To: CHARLES TYLER                            Date: 01/10/94 11:16p
Subj: REBEL ASSAULT PASSCODES                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CT>Does anyone have the passcodes for all of the levels of Rebel Assault? I
 >get past the asteroid field in the first level after training.
I got through those okay, But die when I reach them for a second time.
Falcon gets you to mission 4 I have two more passcodes after that If
your really really need them.  But try changing to easy level in the
options before giving up and using a code...  (the scenes are great!)
        
---
 þ QMPro 1.50 99-9999 þ Dogs come when you call. Cats have answering machines.

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From: J.R. REED                              Number: 10017
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/11/94 11:55p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICES pt 3                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

I just got a new CDROM drive for Christmas and I am buying software(mostly
games) to run on it.  Could you please send me a catalog? Thanks :-)

    J.R. Reed
    1405 Rolling Hills Dr.
    Fayetteville AR, 72703

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From: J.R. REED                              Number: 10018
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 01/12/94 12:11a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog Available                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send me a CDROM cat. also.  I just got a new CD drive & am buying
software(mostly games) for it.

    J.R. Reed
    1405 Rolling Hills Dr.
    Fayetteville, AR 72703

                                -J.R.


    P.S. This also goes for any other distributors/sellers/vendors. Thanks:-)

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From: J.R. REED                              Number: 10019
  To: ALAN EVANS                               Date: 01/12/94 12:23a
Subj: New Adult CD-ROM Title                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Am interested in the new title. Please send me more info via snail mail.

    J.R. Reed
    1405 Rolling Hills Dr.
    Fayetteville AR 72703

P.S.  Send me a catalog (CDROM) if you got one to spare. Thanx:-)

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From: DOUGLAS BELL                           Number: 10020
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/11/94 12:42p
Subj: - Recordable CD-ROM $3200               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


Ricoh RS-9200CD External CD-Recorder
1.2mb cache, SCSI-2

  Read's: CD-ROM, CD-ROM XA, CD-I
Record's: CD-ROM, CD-ROM XA, CD-I, CD-DA

Software: Dataware's CD Record 2.0

$3200

303-467-1294 .. Thanks ..
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From: LARRY FOX                              Number: 10021
  To: HERBERT SMITH                            Date: 01/10/94  7:03p
Subj: Toshiba 3104 CDROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Re: Toshiba 3104 CDROM
 
> Have a SCSI Toshiba.  #3104.  $110 plus shipping.  719-481-2483.  Perfect for
> OS2.

Would you be interested in a trade for the following?
  
   14" Imtec VGA Multiscan monitor, rated at 800x600 but will    
      do 1024x768 with many controllers, .31 dot pitch, t/s base  

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From: JOYCE ZWEEDYK                          Number: 10022
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 01/11/94  6:14p
Subj: Carmen san diego                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey Jeff, when am I going to hear from you about Carmen San Diego?

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From: JAMES POLLOCK                          Number: 10023
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 01/12/94  2:30a
Subj: Re: Used disks for sale/t               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Randy Neuner to James Pollock <=-

 DH> Local Girls - (R-Rated pics) == $10
 DH> Island Girls - (R-Rated pics) == $10

You must have me confused with someone else, I don't even HAVE an FAO disc.
I was offering $20 + postage for these discs... if they are available.


... Catch the Blue Wave!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10024
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94  6:43a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)44k
DESCRIPT FREQ: descript.zip   (about 800 cd-rom disc descriptions)70k
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10025
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94  6:43a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
                        ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $110.00 30day warrantee
Refurbished  NEC Model 36       CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee

                    ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee

                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
14.4 Power supply..................$10.00 ea.
external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
Shipping (drives)$25.00 for up to 2 drives,$40.00 for 3-4 drives.

                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
offering all
refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit, to be
shipped
upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30 days for
receipt of
your refurbished drive.

                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariat.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: TOM PAPAS                              Number: 10026
  To: KEITH LOONEY                             Date: 01/12/94  9:07a
Subj: Re: CDROM Drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to L Richard Johnson, Keith Looney said:
 > Don't mean to butt in, by can you tell me how one goes about
 > pressing
 > charges against someone  in another state. I'm having the
 > same type of
 > problem. I sent a money order for $88 and the item was never
 > shipped.
 > I have the money order receipt and messages that I downloaded
 > from
 > GEnie with the guy even claiming that the item wasn't shipped
 > and he
 > wasn't sending me a refund.

 > --- MEBBSNet 0.139
 >  * Origin: Phila. Amiga Users' Group BBS 215-551-6113/1120
 > (1:273/912.0)
If uou have the money order receipt, just take it to the
place where you got the money order and they'll give you your money
back.  The  company will then bill the other guy for their loses. So,
he doesn't control the situation you do.
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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 10027
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 01/10/94 11:07a
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

OK, consider it on the way! Thanks...  Bob

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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 10028
  To: RICK SHELTON                             Date: 01/10/94 11:10a
Subj: BUSTY BABES VOL 1 FOR SALE!             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

No kidding! how come it is so expensive? whats on it that makes it that
much!!???

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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 10029
  To: BRIAN ELFERT                             Date: 01/11/94 10:05p
Subj: Hitachi 3600 cd rom drive               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BE> Netware 3.12 can only support SCSI drives on the server with
BE> CDROM.NLM.
BE> Almost all CD-ROM drivers for Netware 3.1x are for SCSI
BE> drives.  It will
BE> be pretty much impossible for you to find Netware drivers
BE> for your
BE> CD-ROM drives.

Thanks for the reply.  Is there a master list of which SCSI cards work with
which Novell 3.12 drivers?  And a list of what CDROMs work with those cards?
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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 10030
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/11/94 10:18p
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We are trying to put together 16 CD ROM drives on our BBS with Novell 3.12. 
The NEC 36 CD ROM drives that you are selling, the SCSI card for those drives,
is it supported by a driver that comes with Novell?  If you have the
manufacturer and part number for the card I could look it up myself.  How many
NEC 36 CD ROM drives can be connected to one card?  How many cards can be put
in one machine? How much would you charge us if we bought 8 drives at a time?
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From: ADAM BRIAND                            Number: 10031
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 01/09/94  1:03p
Subj: Adult CD Discs for trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN > AB>I'll trade ya Animation Fantasies 2 for FAO 3.    
   >  
   > Adam, sounds good to me.  How do you want to do the trade.  Let me know   
   > or call me voice after 5pm Arizona time at 602-459-3480.
   >
   > Randy

Ok, I live in Canada so it might cost us a few bucks more to ship (I hope
that isn't a problem).  Just give me your address and I'll ship the disk
out to you ASAP.  Here's my address :

                       98 Wilce Dr.
                      Ajax, Ontario
                        L1T 3K3
                        CANADA

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From: ADAM BRIAND                            Number: 10032
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 01/10/94  6:13p
Subj: Bb                                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

   > No, we are sticking withe the 1024x768 and the 800X600, and we will not be
   
   > including any more text stories or shareware--Perhaps, in  
   > time we may decide to go 24-bit, but it would be to ime   
   > consuming to dupe out the slides, and we have 10 projects
   > to get out this year :)
   >
   > Thanks for asking !
   >
   > -=*>Lee<*=-

It might take up more time, however, I feel you would sell more by
including 24-bit pictures.  I for one want my software to utilize my
computers full abilities.  I'll probably buy some of those disks anyway
though <g>.

 * JABBER v1.1 * And God said: E = 2mv2 - Ze2/r ...and there *WAS* light!

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From: CLIF DANIEL                            Number: 10033
  To: G. LARRY WEBB                            Date: 01/12/94  1:11p
Subj: BOOKSHELF/ENCARTA                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Gw=>I have a copy of MS Bookshelf for Windows 1992 edition. It
Gw=>is the Soundblaster OEM version, which simply means it has
Gw=>Soundblaster stuff printed on the CD ... functionally, it is
Gw=>the MS Bookshelf '92 for Windows. I'm asking $30 for it. May
Gw=>also have a copy of the 1993 version of Encarta available
Gw=>soon... If so, will sell it for $45 plus shipping. Or if you
Gw=>get both and pre-pay with money order, I'll sell both for
Gw=>$70 including shipping. Let me know....

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Gw=>2.2M (1:151/102)

I sure would be interested in the Encarta for 45.00 , but the Bookshelf '93
OEM can be had for 35.00. If you do have the Encarta available. Would
appreciate info on how to contact you for arrangments. 
    
                        Thanks,
                        Clif Daniel
                        Technical Consultant
                        Kansas City, Mo.
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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 10034
  To: BRYAN COTTER                             Date: 01/12/94  4:00p
Subj: I need Adult cd-rom disk                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Hey Michael, could you tell me who makes this cd?  And do the pics on
 > it have BBS advertisements and are they strickly R rated?  Thanks...

The cd is made by Lion's Den ( Lee Noga ) and no it doesn't have any
advertisements at all on the gif's, it does have a copyright comment of the
very bottom in small readable print and the gif goes from what I consider "R"
rated ( to me "R" means you see something ) to "X" rated which I'm not sure
what "X" means anymore with all the changes going on.

The gifs are all 1024X&768X256 colors and the disk has a dir that has about
four gifs per screen of every gif on the disk. This would save a user the time
of downloading all the gifs ( this way he/she could choose ). I only say that
one of the women are ugly which is IMHO, I let a friend borrow the disk and
they bought it for there bbs since they were so impressed with it.

                                    Mike Harris

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 10035
  To: ALAN EVANS                               Date: 01/12/94  4:07p
Subj: New Adult CD-ROM Title                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW !

 >                         The A.P.L. CD-ROM!

 > The APL or Adult Picture Library is now available!  This CD-ROM
 > is EXPLODING with 689 of R and X rated adult .GIF pictures, .GL
 > movies, .DL movies, and .FLI animation!  All 100% high resolution
 > pictures only around 12 pictures less than 100,000 bytes in size!
 > This disc contains the following:

 >      3,112 .GIF Pictures
 >         84 .FLI Movies
 >        168 .GL Movies
 >         90 .DL Movies

Alan,
Do you have any idea if these are original gifs or not?

                                     Mike harris

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 10036
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94  4:10p
Subj: Macro Media                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Macro Media that came with my drive for sale at $20.00 plus $2.90 two
day shipped. Includes manual and discount coupon.

302-674-1947

                                   Mike Harris

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From: BO SHORT                               Number: 10037
  To: BRIAN WOODBURY                           Date: 01/12/94  8:44p
Subj: KQ VI CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

30$ INCLUDE SHIPPING?
NO, SORRY, BUT IT SHOULD ONLY BE ABOUT $4.00
IF YOU ARE STILL INTERESTED, CALL ME AT (302)674-8785

BO SHORT

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From: ALLAN DOMENICK                         Number: 10038
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94  8:14a
Subj: enternal cd rom                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

looking for an external unit for under 300.00 anyone have anything they might
look to sell?
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From: MIKE STEFFEN                           Number: 10039
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94  6:27a
Subj: adult CD trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: A.P.L. trade
BY: Casey Romanski (1:393/10)

Casey...I'll trade my APL disc for your Amateur Models CD.  Call me live at
1-319-234-0938  CST dayz
Mike Steffen

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From: JIM LARSON                             Number: 10040
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 01/08/94  8:25p
Subj: adult cd trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Greg Sterling was heard whispering to All about adult cd trade 
 
 
GS>I have ANIMATION FANTASIES I'd like to trade for another 
GS>adult cd. Let me know if interested.
GS>Greg

I've got FAO Vol 2 that I'll trade.
Let me know.




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From: JIM WILKINSON                          Number: 10041
  To: GREG COBB                                Date: 01/13/94 12:53a
Subj: Re: Western Digital 420MB IDE Hard Drive  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 It may not be a CD, Greg... But it is a GREAT DEAL! Thanks JOE........

  -JW-

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From: DICK WALSH                             Number: 10042
  To: ECHOMASTER CD SALE ECHO                  Date: 01/12/94  8:55a
Subj: ADVERTISING                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I write this letter not to curb sales from Advertisers.  But I do think that
the fact that they do advertise here and on the CDROM ECHO
more than once a week is sort of redundant.  I have talked with guys like
Boris and purchased from them.   I do not accuse anyone of the commercial
advertisers but I sure would like to see their ads cut down to one time
per week and hold it at that pace.   As the echomaster you can set this
policy and I think the interest will still stand up.   No I do not mean 
replying to a message about a CD Disk   I am referring to the use of this
echo to put on a complete list of all that is available and have it scroll
from one screen to the next   This is just a personal thought  I would 
really like to hear others comment on this     Thanks in advance <Dick Walsh>
(I hope I have not offended any one with this note)

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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 10043
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/12/94  9:44p
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Joe Rinehart to All <=-

 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
 JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
 JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
 JR> CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)44k
 JR> DESCRIPT FREQ: descript.zip   (about 800 cd-rom disc descriptions)70k
 JR> Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
 JR> FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
 JR> Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
 JR> P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
 JR> Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

 JR> -!- MsgToss 2.0c
 JR>  ! Origin: "If you can't find it, call config.sys!" 216-296-2244
 JR> (1:157/479) 

aBSOLUTELY,......Here's the address:Chip Slate
                                    P.O. Box 96
                                    Claudville,VA 24076
                                   (or)
You can fax me from 5:00am to 11:00pm however my phone # and my fax are
the same:703-251-5035..so call me first and tell me the fax is coming so i 
can recieve it.....Thanx...Chip Slate


... All I need is a Wave and a board to surf it on.
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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 10044
  To: RICK SHELTON                             Date: 01/12/94  9:53p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol 1 For Sale!         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Richard Leighton to Rick Shelton <=-

 -=> Quoting Rick Shelton to All <=-
 
 RS> Hello All!
 
 RS> I still have the Busty Babes v1 #1 for sale. This is a collectors
 RS> item, make me an offer. 

 RL> Hi Rick, I'll give you $ 30.00 for it shipped.

 RL> Let Me Know
 RL> Richard



 RL> ... RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure!
 RL> -!- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR]
 RL>  ! Origin: -=] After Hours [=-*-=] Eugene, Or [=- (1:152/40)

I'll do better than that!!!! $35.00 shipped...
                        C-Ya,Chip Slate



... ......Every Womans dream.....To Get Screwed at LOWES HARDWARE
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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 10045
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 01/12/94 10:01p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Dave Reed to Bob Hamilton <=-

 DR> Hello Bob!

 DR> Saturday January 08 1994 09:43, Bob Hamilton wrote to Mike Shannon:
 
 >> * SLMR 2.1a * I still miss my ex-wife, but my aim is getting
 >> better.
 
 BH> That isn't funny.

 DR> Why not?  I think it is.  ;-)

 DR> Later,

 DR> Dave


 DR> ... "Bones! That! Feels! Good!"   "It's head, Jim."

 DR> -!- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219+
 DR>  ! Origin: The CrossRoads BBS * Ephrata, WA * v32b/H16 (1:344/79)



That's the funniest Star Trek Tagline I've ever seen!!
keep 'em CUMING.......


... ..Mabel's WHORE HOUSE.
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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 10046
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/12/94 10:08p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM PRICES pt 3                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

 MS> 
 MS> ***********************************************************************
 MS> *** January 1994            DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST        Last
 MS> update: 1/4 ********************************* 3 of 3
 MS> ********************************* 
 MS> Guy Spy.......................29.50    STW MPC
 MS> Encyclopedia..........44.00 Hacker Chronicles.............29.00   
 MS> Super Games for DOS...........10.00 Ham Radio
 MS> 3.0.................12.00    Super Games for Windows 1.....10.00 Ham
 MS> Radio/Scanner Companion...23.50    Super Games for Windows 2.....10.00
 MS> Hamware 1993..................23.00    Talking Jungle
 MS> Safari.........33.00 Health & Medical Directory....27.50    Tech
 MS> Arsenal..................21.50 Hobbes OS/2 10/93.............16.00   
 MS> Technotools...................12.00 Hollywood the Bizarre
 MS> (NEW)...39.50    Tempra Access Photo Software..19.00 Holy
 MS> Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......35.00
 MS> Home Designer (NEW)...........29.00    Time Magazine Comp.
 MS> Almanac...28.50 Home/Office Legal Guide.......12.00    Timetable of
 MS> Arts/Entertain...29.50 Horror & Sci-Fi Films (NEW)...39.50   
 MS> Timetable of Business/Politic.26.00 House of
 MS> Games................18.50    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 MS> Images of NASA (NEW)..........25.00    Too Many
 MS> Typefonts............12.00 Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00   
 MS> Total Baseball 1992...........24.00 Interactive Story Time
 MS> 1......25.00    Total Baseball 1993...........28.00 Interactive Story
 MS> Time 2......25.00    Total Heart by Mayo Clinic....49.00 Interactive
 MS> Story Time 3......29.00    Trump Castle..................23.00 Int'l
 MS> Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    U.S./World Atlas MPC..........25.00
 MS> Int'l Graphics Library........27.50    U.S. Atlas
 MS> MPC................23.00 Jazz: A Multimedia History....29.00    U.S.
 MS> Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00 Jets & Props..................28.50   
 MS> U.S. History..................29.00 Jewel Cases...................
 MS> 1.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00 Jokes &
 MS> Pranks................12.00    U.S. Wars: Civil War..........34.00
 MS> Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Wars: Desert
 MS> Storm.......34.00 Just Grandma & Me.............39.00    U.S. Wars:
 MS> Korea..............34.00 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S.
 MS> Wars: Vietnam............34.00 King's Quest V................20.00   
 MS> U.S. Wars: WWII...............34.00 King's Quest VI (Retail
 MS> Box)..39.00    USA Today: The 90's (NEW).....36.00
 MS> Klotski.......................19.00    VGA Spectrum
 MS> 1................13.00 Kodak Photo CD Access.........19.00    VGA
 MS> Spectrum 2................21.00 La Coleccion (Spanish S/W)....19.50   
 MS> Video Movie Guide (NEW).......28.50 Lan
 MS> Master....................25.00    Virtual 3D (w/ glasses!)......28.50
 MS> Language Discovery (NEW)......19.00    Virtual Reality Starter
 MS> Kit...49.00 Languages of the World........37.00    Wave Pool
 MS> (NEW)...............19.00 Learning Adventure............12.00    Who
 MS> Killed Sam Rupert.........21.90 Learning Heaven...............19.00   
 MS> Wild Places...................24.00 Library of the Future
 MS> #1......39.00    Wildcat Gold..................20.50 Libris
 MS> Britannia..............34.00    Win Platinum..................22.00
 MS> Linux.........................27.00    Window
 MS> Master.................20.00 Loom..........................19.00   
 MS> Windoware.....................12.00 Mac Multimedia
 MS> Space..........29.00    Windows 1993..................25.00 Mac
 MS> Shareware.................19.00    Windows Collection (NEW)......26.00
 MS> MacMillan Dictionary..........29.00    Wing Commander 2
 MS> Deluxe.......39.30 Macromind Action..............32.00    Wing
 MS> Commander 2/Ultima U.W...41.50 Mad Dog McCree................39.00   
 MS> Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00 Mailer's Lookup
 MS> (NEW).........27.50    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50 Majestic
 MS> Places...............38.50    World Atlas MPC ..............23.00
 MS> Mantis........................24.00    World Fact Book
 MS> M/M...........23.00 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..25.00    World of
 MS> Flight...............34.00 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50   
 MS> World of Trains...............34.00 Mayo Clinic
 MS> MPC...............26.00    World Traveler................12.00 Mega
 MS> Clipart..................20.20    World View....................24.00
 MS> Microsoft Bookshelf 1992 MPC..32.50    World Vision
 MS> 3-Pak............39.00 Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..49.00    Wrath of
 MS> the Demon............29.00 Microsoft Cinemania 1993 MPC..52.00   
 MS> X11R5/GNU.....................23.40 
 MS> 600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY
 MS> PURCHASE! or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY
 MS> PURCHASE! JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59
 MS> / 50+ 4.39 
 MS> INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD
 MS> Shop! BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day
 MS> Air for the FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as
 MS> ground shipping! INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com    
 MS> International orders welcomed. COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 MS> FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles &
 MS> descriptions 
 MS> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892
 MS> (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50
 MS> ea pc over 5 

 MS> * SLMR 2.1a * It's Ensign Pillsbury....he's bread Jim.

 MS> -!- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
 MS>  ! Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR
 MS> (1:3407/101) 


Well,my friend who is observing me right now is very interested in some
of these titles however since i have yet to get a printer he can not take
this list to his house could you please mail him one as well as myself..
The addresses are:Chip Slate               Jason Mitchell
                  P.O. Box 96              P.O. Box 6146
                  Claudville,VA 24076      Mount Airy,NC 27030

                 Thanx,Chipster

... ....PEAM ME UP POTTY? says the new scandanavian captain....
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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 10047
  To: ALAN EVANS                               Date: 01/12/94 10:20p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Software Bundles             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Alan Evans to All <=-

 AE> Look below for some great CD-ROM Software Bundles from CMS. 
 AE> All discs are IN STOCK ready for shipment. 
 AE> 
 AE> ***** SINGLE CD PRICING ***** 
 AE> 
 AE> Software Tool Chest - $29.95   Physical Therapy Adult   - $29.95 
 AE> ShareWare OnLine #2 - $39.95   Adult Reference Library  - $29.95 
 AE> GameWare Collection - $29.95   SoundWare Collection     - $39.95 
 AE> Storm-2 Adult       - $22.95   Storm-3 Adult            - $24.95 
 AE> Digital Dreams Adult- $24.95   A.P.L. Adult             - $37.95 
 AE> User's Choice Windows $29.95   Swimwear                 - $19.95 
 AE> Digital Dreams 2    - $29.95   Software Treasure Chest  - $24.95 
 AE> 
 AE> ***** BUNDLED CD PRICING ***** 
 AE> 
 AE> User's Choice Windows          SoundWare Collection 
 AE> ShareWare OnLine #2            GameWare Collection 
 AE> $44.95                         $49.95 
 AE> 
 AE> ShareWare OnLine #2            Storm-3 Adult 
 AE> SoundWare Collection           A.P.L. Adult 
 AE> GameWare Collection            Adult Reference Library 
 AE> User's Choice Windows          Physical Therapy Adult 
 AE> Software Treasure Chest        Storm-2 Adult 
 AE> A.P.L. Adult                       $119.95 
 AE> Software Tool Chest 
 AE> $149.95 
 AE> User's Choice Windows 
 AE> Software Treasure Chest        ShareWare OnLine #2 
 AE> ShareWare OnLine #2            A.P.L. Adult 
 AE> $39.95                     Storm-2 
 AE> $69.95 
 AE> 
 AE> Storm-2 Adult                  Storm-2 Adult 
 AE> Storm-3 Adult                  Storm-3 Adult 
 AE> $39.95                     A.P.L. Adult 
 AE> $69.95 
 AE> 
 AE> Adult Reference Library        A.P.L. Adult 
 AE> Storm-2 Adult                  Physical Therapy Adult 
 AE> Physical Therapy Adult             $49.95 
 AE> $69.95 
 AE> ShareWare OnLine #2 
 AE> A.P.L./User's Choice           A.P.L. Adult 
 AE> $44.95                         $44.95 
 AE> 
 AE> CMS accepts Visa & Mastercard, check, M.O., and COD orders. 
 AE> $5.00 standard shipping on any order.  These prices are in 
 AE> effect for a short time only.  Get your orders sent TODAY! 
 AE> CMS does accept your trades!  PUBLISHERS: Call us to trade 
 AE> your titles for ours! 
 AE> 
 AE> CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
 AE> TELEPHONE: 812-442-0110 
 AE> 
 AE> o SMRead 3.0  #? o   
 AE> -!- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3
 AE>  ! Origin: Ivy Tech's BBS * 812-299-9306 * HST * Fido/RelayNet
 AE> (1:2230/114) 

I'm very interested in trading for the adult's. The following titles I have:
        Stellar 7-Came in bundle has no box
        Spirit of Excalibur-Has Everything
        Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective Vol:2&3-HAS Everything
        National Parks CD-Came in bundle no box
        Adventures CD-Came in Bundle No Box
                      Thanx,Chip Slate
                      

... He's got Blue Wave fever and it's spreading through the message bases!
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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 10048
  To: SAM BECKWITH                             Date: 01/12/94 10:23p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMS FOR SALE                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well,I'm interested in quite a few. Was wondering...Do you trade??
                Thanx,C-YA,Chip Slate


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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 10049
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 01/12/94 10:42p
Subj: Re: Lights Out                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Why don't you take this crap and shove it to the BS echo!!!!!


... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 10050
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 01/12/94 10:44p
Subj: Re: moderator                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Doug Carpenter to All <=-

 DC> What happened to our moderator?

 DC> -!- Maximus 2.01wb
 DC>  ! Origin: MAXspeed/ISDN BBS * 3775 cps..and accelerating!!
 DC> (1:362/119) 

I have absolutely no idea....C-Ya,Chip Slate

... Blue Wave - World Tour - 1994
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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 10051
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/12/94 10:48p
Subj: Re: NEW CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Boris Osadciw to All <=-

 BO> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ N E W   C D  R E L E A S E 'S
 BO> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
 BO> Educational Companion - 450+ megs - 3,700+ files - BBS Ready - Loaded
 BO> with educational games, tutorials, languages
 BO> and more ! Ham Radio & Scanners  - 400+ megs - 3,000+ files - BBS Ready
 BO> - Loaded with ham info, swl, info, fcc
 BO> regulations and more ! OS/2 Companion        - 470+ megs - 2,400+ files
 BO> - BBS Ready - Loaded with graphics, multimedia,
 BO> networking, fonts and more ! Price - $16.00 ec + Free
 BO> Diagnostic cd offer ORDERS US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES
 BO> 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759 



 BO> Boris Osadciw

 BO> ... Silver Xpress!...... Now 100% QWK Compatible! More bang for your
 BO> bucks! -!- FMail 0.96â
 BO>  ! Origin: Buggie Works Via Satellite (216)225-6130 (1:157/46)

Can You Please Send Me A Copy Of Your Full Catalog?
                Thanx,C-Ya,Chip Slate


... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 10052
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94 10:56p
Subj: Pioneer 6-disc Changer Wanted           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

My friend is looking for the best price possible on a 6-disk Cd-changer.
                Thanx,C-Ya,Chip Slate


... The last thing I saw was this Big Blue Wave!
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From: EUGENE BAUGUESS                        Number: 10053
  To: CHUCK WARREN                             Date: 01/12/94  3:29p
Subj: 6 CD-Changer                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CW> -> Chuck I am interested in the Pioneer 6 CD-Changer, is it a DRM600 or
CW> -> what do you have with it and how much do you need for the unit.

CW>    I'm going to continue using CD's, but on a single drive
CW> basis.  It's
CW> the DRM600 and I can throw in the Future Domain 8-bit
CW> controller.
CW> Running the DRm with multi-line tends to slow the system
CW> down, depending
CW> on the BBS software you're using.  I'd like to get $550
CW> minimum plus
CW> shipping.  There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with the unit,
CW> just no
CW> longer meets my system requirements.

CW>    Chuck


CW> --- WM v3.10/91-0206
CW>  * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 
CW> (1:3611/15.0)
Hello:
I need to know how old the unit is. My voice number is 910-696-4091.
I am interested in the unit, I am using a 604X and need another one so I can
chain the two units.
Eugene
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From: ELIZABETH RODIER                       Number: 10054
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 01/11/94  5:57p
Subj: Showoff!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BJ>review. He wants me to be a beta tester for the upcoming
BJ>new version of Showoff!  Sounded like a really nice person

Showoff doesn't compare with Image Commander from JASC, Int (Paint Shop
Pro company) or Photo Finish from Z-Soft.  They are not on CD's but
programs available that work better with CD's.

 * SLMR 2.1a * Elizabeth

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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 10055
  To: JOHN MAR                                 Date: 01/11/94 11:10a
Subj: looking for a CD ROM DRIV               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ed Kofron uttered the following to John Mar :
 -EK> John, Try a Toshiba 3401B. Probably the nicest drive on the market
 -EK> right now. It is SCSI interface and has a 256K buffer. It will run you
 -EK> about 5 bills.

Ed's right about it being a nice drive.  I sell them for $425+shipping myself.
So it's a little cheaper than the five bills he quoted you...<G>  It is 200ms
access time, 330kb/sec transfer rate, 256k buffer, SCSI-2 compatible...

                                        Bryan Cotter (615) 356-1967
                                        - Micro Creations
                                        - Creative Computer Consulting
                                        - Absolute Video

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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 10056
  To: CASEY ROMANSKI                           Date: 01/11/94 11:32p
Subj: A.P.L. trade                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -CR> BC> Would like to trade the hardcore A.P.L.(Adult Picture Library)
 -CR> BC> R-rated, no-BBS-AD, CD-rom that preferably has 24bit images in
 -CR> BC> 256-color Gifs...  Let me know...  615-356-1967...

 -CR> How about trading for Amateur Models? It fits your description!
 -CR> Let me know. If you don't want to wait for the echo, call
 -CR> my BBS at 817-321-3123 and leave a message!

Ok. I'll do it.  I am a business so you can go ahead and send the Cd to the
below address and I'll get mine out just as soon as I get yours.  Each pay our
own shipping...  Could you maybe leave your number as well?  You could leave
it here or route it through your fidonet hub...<g>

              Send To:
                                Bryan Cotter
                                Creative Computer Consulting
                                710 West Meade Dr.
                                Nashville, Tn 37305

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From: SHELDON KOEHLER                        Number: 10057
  To: RON THOMPSON                             Date: 01/09/94 10:28p
Subj: TEST MESSAGE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RT>Hi Port Angeles, Washington -- from El Paso, Texas, and a long-time
  >resident of Washington state. I moved from the Tacoma area in August of
  >1985. How is it in your "neck of the woods?" I remember P.A. as being a
  >nice city.


"Nice" isn't the word I would use. ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL would be a
little closer <g>. I was going to tell you that you left Tacoma just in
time, but El Paso...

 * QMPro 1.51 * Misspelled?  Impossible.  My modem is error correcting.


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From: MICHELLE SINES                         Number: 10058
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94  5:29a
Subj: Turbo Grafix-16 CD's                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone wishing to sell Turbo Grafix-16 CD's and Super CD games,
am interested in those I do not already have.
 
P.S.  The Turbo Grafix-16 CD and Turbo Duo systems (also known as
a PC Engine in Japan), has a $120 Cartridge with SCSI cable that will allow
Amiga, Mac, and IBM users to connect it and use it as a CD rom
drive, Game Dude is selling the older Turbo Grafix system for $30 and the CD
add on at $70 used, but Toys-R-Us and Fred Meyer are closing out the Turbo
systems, apparently TTI (Turbo Technologies, USA Distributor of the Turbo
Grafix-16/Turbo Duo (now DUO)) does not care much about support..  This is a
cheaper way to go for a CD rom only drive, you can call Turbo Zone in CA and
ask for the INTELLIGENT LINK that will go into the cartridge slot on the Turbo
system, which is credit card size..
 


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From: MICHELLE SINES                         Number: 10059
  To: JAMES GRIMSLEY                           Date: 01/12/94  5:36a
Subj: Re: Commodore PD CD-ROM wanted          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Try the Fred Fish CD roms, they should have a few that are for the older 64
side of things, there is a A64 emulator which plays the 64 software on the
Amiga.


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From: MR. HOMIE                              Number: 10060
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 01/06/94  1:45a
Subj: Bodacious Beauties - NewODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New Re  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DV> Perhaps you could post a list of the BBSs you are talking about, as
DV> I have a lot of friends who would like to download adult images for
DV> free.

Well, actually I am one of those BBS's that don't charge a fee for access to
adult areas.  You do have a ratio to maintain, but there is no FEE for this
service.  I try to keep my costs down, so I needent pass the costs onto my
users.

Although access is free, with proof of age, a small donation can lift the ratio
indefinately.

Mr. Homies' Neighborhood
414-954-9557
14.4k -- CD-ROM -- 486dx33 and more!

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From: MR. HOMIE                              Number: 10061
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 01/06/94  1:48a
Subj: Adult disc for trade                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On <29 Dec, 05:07>, Randy Neuner wrote to All :

RN> I have Physical Therapy for trade for another adult cd disc.  THis disc
RN> has gifs and short motion clips on it.

any chance of a purchase outright?

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From: MR. HOMIE                              Number: 10062
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/06/94  1:58a
Subj: Adult CD-ROM's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


I am looking for a cheap CD-ROM containing adult material.  Animateds are not
necessary, primary interest is the adult GIF.

I have Digital Dreams Volume 1, mainly used for the BBS.

I am interested in about anything you have, since most of these may never reach
the BBS...so BBS ready is not necessary either.

If you have an adult CD you wish to sell, at a reasonable price (since sysops
are poor -- esp. those who run FREE BBS's) drop me a line here, or send me
netmail...or even call the system!

Mr. Homie
(Brian Hertziger -- if you respond NETMAIL only!)
Mr. Homies' Neighborhood (1:139/645)
(414) 954-9557    14.4k -- 24 hours 

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From: RANDALL KRIPPNER                       Number: 10063
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/07/94  2:24p
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


Please send catalog to:

RGK Consulting Services
1014 W. Hwy. 114
Lot 29
Hilbert, WI 54129



... The seminar on time travel was held three weeks from tomorrow.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: MARK CRANWELL                          Number: 10064
  To: MIKE GAMBARO                             Date: 01/12/94 10:15p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Mike it is not me that is give away free cd catalog's I ask for one to I
forgot you it is but it's not me but thanks for asking.

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From: KEITH LOONEY                           Number: 10065
  To: DONALD WEN                               Date: 01/12/94  5:43p
Subj: nec driver                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Don, I got the driver in the mail today. Glad you liked the check. I
got mine from First Valley Bank. I think you should be able to get
them at about any bank.

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From: SEAN BRENNAN                           Number: 10066
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94 11:32p
Subj: Looking to buy....                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking to by Virtual Valerie I or II or Night Watch interactive from Mac
CD-ROM used. I am willing to pay $30 for any one but could only afford $75 if
you have all three. Also I'm looking for the Flame CD-Rom for $25 or less.
Anyone out there want to trade something for Hell Cab? Let me know.
Remeber MAC cds only except for Gif Cd-Roms.
Thanks, Sean.


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From: SCOTT WILLIS                           Number: 10067
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94 10:24p
Subj: for sale/trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

i have the new sierra game gabriel knight for sale or trade.if you would like
to trade leave me a list of what you have 

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From: MIKE FURST                             Number: 10068
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 01/11/94  9:15p
Subj: Re: Adult CD Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN> MF> 1. Giffy Gold

RN>How about FAO 3 (For Adults Only) trade for the above.
  >Randy Neuner


Sounds like a trade, I'll send mine out Friday the 14th if you
respond to this message to let me know if you received it....

                                Thanks,
                                        -- Mike


 * QMPro 1.50 43-3501 * >ov++h+n AC*hanks for hanging up, dear.

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From: AMY MOODY                              Number: 10069
  To: BRYAN COTTER                             Date: 01/12/94  1:42p
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Bryan,

-> Amy, I replied to the last message of yours but don't believe you got
-> it for I never got a reply.  I would like to know if this disc
-> also lists soldiers KIA cause my cousin was killed in Kafji
-> <sp> from the biggest friendly fire incident...  Would
-> appreciate any information on this.  Thanks...

To be perfectly honest with you.... I don't know.  I have never really used it
to its extent.  It has ALOT of information on it. Sorry I couldn't be of more
help...

Amy

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From: AMY MOODY                              Number: 10070
  To: JERRY ZELLER                             Date: 01/12/94  1:44p
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Jerry,

-> Amy - how about $15 for the macromedia and $5 for the desert storm?
-> Jerry

I'll consider them sold.  Get with me either here or call me voice at
210-656-4090 and we'll work out the "where to's" and "whens". :)

SEEYA!
  Amy

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 10071
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94  4:38p
Subj: Aldus PhotoStyler for win 2.0           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Aldus PhotoStyler for windows version 2.0.... the latest... on CD Rom.
This is the SE version
Its complete, never registered.

$100 takes this great program! + P&H



Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: GARY MULLETT                           Number: 10072
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 01/12/94  6:43p
Subj: Adult Cd-rom discs                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GM>BW>        Perversia Galore

RN>I have FAO 3 for trade for the above.

I was looking to trade for one of the disks, I do not have either
of the disks in the original ad.
   
 * OLX 2.2 * I don't do taglines.

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From: ELLEN TILDEN                           Number: 10073
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/11/94  8:37p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Joe,
I would like a catalog I am always looking for more new material :)
you can send it to: The Southend BBS
                    Ellen Tilden
                    271 Second Avenue
                    Albany, NY 12209
Thanks in advance :)
Ellen


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From: KEITH SHEEHAN                          Number: 10074
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/11/94 12:32a
Subj: OS/2 2.0 CD-ROMS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I wish to find out from you users out there which of the currently available
OS/2 2.x dedicated CD-ROMs is the best? I want to have an unbiased opinion from
those who actually use them. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanx in
advance.


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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 10075
  To: TOM MILLER                               Date: 01/06/94 11:42p
Subj: TOSHIBA                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TM> Test message.... are we connected?

 Yup
TM>  * Origin: Lawrence OnLine/TBBS, 4 lines and 14 Cd-Rom Disks  (1:299/102)

Question os, how many Cd-Rom DRIVES do you have? 8-)

CJK


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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 10076
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 01/13/94  6:34a
Subj: Quicken                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Greetings Jim !

Jim, Have you seen the new Quicken CD anywhere yet, suppose to sell for
about 70.00?

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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 10077
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/13/94  6:38a
Subj: QUICKEN CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Greetings Brice !

Brice, have you seen or have a price on Quickens new CD?

 * WCE 1.5/2163 * None of you exists, my sysop types all this in!


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From: HAL SINGER                             Number: 10078
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 01/12/94 10:36p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Catalog Available            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would appreciate you sending me a catalog.
          Singer & Associates
          PO Box 1374
          Lodi, CA 95241-1374


                 Thank's..........

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From: DEREK STUTSMAN                         Number: 10079
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/12/94  1:53a
Subj: CD Catalog                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Oh, by the way, my father wants one of those catalogs too.  (I already put 
in for mine.)

The address is:

Jim Stutsman
Software Miracles
3139 Oak Hill Rd
Carrollton, Tx
75007



Derek Stutsman
 * Wave Rider 1.03 Beta # 153 *
... Allright ya hayseeds, it's a stickup!
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 10080
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 01/13/94 12:54a
Subj: cdroms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Too much data to look through and stay sane!

New CDRoms for sale:

 Aminet June 1993                $12.00  Almost 600 megs of Amiga stuff,
                                         Thousands of GNU apps, C code,
                                         sound files, games, etc...
 CICA Windows Aug. 1993          $12.00  640+ Megs of Windows stuff, utils
                                         games, drivers, icons, info, and
                                         tons of other stuff.
 Garbo May 1992                  $12.00  375+ Megs of MSDOS/MAC from the
                                         Garbo Archive at the University
                                         of Vassa, Finland.
 GIFs Galore 1st ed.             $15.00  610+ Megs of .gif files. Animals,
                                         people, fantasy, tv, movies, more.
                                         320x280 to 1024x768
 Giga Games Aug. 1993            $17.00  450+ Megs zipped, 1 GIG unzipped!
                                         Games for MSDOS/Windows. Graphics
                                         Arcade games!  Adventure games!
                                         1000+ D&D files!  Tons more.
 Hobbes OS/2  June 1993          $12.00  640+ Megs of OS/2, bunches of
                                         must have utils for OS/2 2.x,tons
                                         of other stuff for 1.x to 2.x.
 La Coleccion Agosto 1993        $15.00  Mas de 6.500 archivos shareware
                                         y de dominio publico clasificados
                                         en 55 secciones con descripciones
                                         en espanol.  Listo para utilizar
                                         en BBS. DOS/Windows/OS/2. 475 Megs.
 Libris Britanica Issue 2        $28.00  650 Megs of Shareware from
                                         England!  This import has tons
                                         of MSDOS stuff you probabley
                                         have not seen... (With 124 pg.
                                         listing of files and descriptions)
 Project Gutenberg  July 1993    $17.00  Tons of classic lit/history/info
                                         files from the Project Gutenburg
                                         archive, all low ASCII text,
                                         ISO-9660, readable on almost
                                         anything!
 ShareWare Heaven 1993           $20.00  400+ Megs of MSDOS/Win, good
                                         general CD, samples wide range
                                         of programs/utils.
 Simtel MSDOS May 1993           $12.00  630+ Megs MSDOS, over 9000
                                         programs, drivers, tech info,
                                         graphics & sound stuff.
 Source  March 1992              $17.00  600 Megs of C code for just
                                         about every application: from
                                         AI to usenet.
 Soundwave                       $23.00  450 Megs of unique sounds, pro
                                         recordings at 16 bits.  Sounds
                                         as good as audio CDs. 200 Megs
                                         of sound files at 8 bits.
 Space and Astronomy  Oct 93     $17.00  530 Megs. 1080 images from space.
                                         5000 informational text files.
                                         Many astronomy/space programs for
                                         both IBM and Mac.  BBS ready.
                                         Awesome!  I loved this one.
Postage and Insurance is $5.00 per order, 2nd day priority shipping, in USA.
I will ship COD.  Add $5.00 per order for COD charges.

Feel free to contact and/or send checks/money orders to:

Eric Bravick
USF 3008
4202 E. Fowler Ave.
Tampa, FL. 33620-3008

(813) 985-9619 (Voice)
(813) 985-9723 (BBS)
Netmail 1:377/53.0
Internet: bravick@luna.cas.usf.edu

Thanks,
Eric


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From: BILL BALDWIN                           Number: 10081
  To: KEVIN DOUGLAS                            Date: 01/13/94  1:29a
Subj: catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Re: Flame XXX Adult CD!  Hot!!! New!!!
 
> Also you can request a free catalog of all of our CD-ROM titles (astronomy to
> zoology) 

please ad me to your list
The CORRAL bbs
p.o.box 3851
huntsville, al 35810-0851

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From: BILL BALDWIN                           Number: 10082
  To: BILL WOOD                                Date: 01/13/94  1:29a
Subj: modems-high speed                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Re: National Computer Outlet
 
> Well I am the Bill Wood selling High Speed Modems, but that's it, 

What do you have to offer?.. and prices?
BB

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From: LT                                     Number: 10083
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 01/09/94  4:59p
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DOUG I AM INTERESTED IN THE CD-ROM WITH WINDOW GAMES AND OTHER..  I WILL BUY 
IT IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE...

MIKE BONACCI

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From: JEFF WOERTZ                            Number: 10084
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94  7:09p
Subj: Used software BLOWOUT pri               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÿ@SUBJECT:Used software BLOWOUT prices !!!                            N
USED SOFTWARE FOR SALE: (215)675-8886 10:00AM-8:00PM EASTERN (ASK FOR
JEFF)

                        All programs for IBM PC/clones.
                        All programs for DOS unless otherwise noted.
                        All programs with docs unless otherwise noted.
                        Price does not include shipping.
                        Listed price is in US funds.
                        Price listing as of January, 1994



DESCRIPTION                                     DISK SIZE       PRICE

4D Boxing (VGA)                                 3.5"            10.00
A-10 Tank Killer v1.1 (NO MANUAL) (VGA)         5.25"           8.00
Chuck Yeager's Advanced Flight Trainer v2.0     5.25"           8.00
Chuck Yeager's Air Combat Flight Simulator(VGA) 5.25"           15.00
Dr. Halo Plus (CAD/Drawing) v3.0                5.25"           10.00
Heroes of the 357th Flight Simulator (VGA)      5.25"           15.00
MS Arcade (WINDOWS 3.1 NEEDED)                  3.5"            20.00
MS DOS 5.0 Upgrade (PREV VERSION NEEDED)        3.5"            15.00
MS DOS 6.0 Upgrade (PREV VERSION NEEDED)        3.5"            20.00
MS Windows 3.0                                  5.25"           15.00
MS Works for DOS v2.0 (NO MANUAL)               5.25"           8.00
Mallard "Sound,Graphics & Aircraft" for FS4(VGA)5.25"/3.5"      10.00
Passport "Trax" MIDI sequencing (WINDOWS)       5.25"/3.5"      25.00
Police Quest III v1.0 (VGA)                     5.25"           10.00
Red Baron (Flight Simulator) v1.0 (VGA)         3.5"            15.00
Spinnaker "Better Working Database Manager"     5.25"           8.00
Spirit of Excalibur (VGA)                       3.5"            10.00
Stacker v2.0                                    5.25"           15.00
Starflight 2:Cloud Nebula (NO DOCS) (EGA/VGA)   5.25"           8.00
Stunt Island (VGA)                              5.25"           20.00
Test Drive III "Add-On #1"  (TEST DRIVE III)    3.5"            8.00
Test Drive III, The Passion  (W/ CODE WHEEL,VGA)5.25"/3.5"      15.00




***     PLEASE ADD $2.00 FOR UPS GROUND SHIPPING TO YOUR HOME.
        CASH AND CHECKS ACCEPTED. PERSONAL CHECKS MUST CLEAR
        BEFORE ITEM IS SHIPPED TO YOU.

***     IF INTERESTED IN ANY OF THE ABOVE PROGRAMS, PLEASE CALL
        JEFF AT (215) 675-8886 10:00AM TO 8:00PM EASTERN TIME.
        THANKS !
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From: KIMBERLY JONES                         Number: 10085
  To: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                         Date: 01/13/94  8:03p
Subj: Garage Sale (or Trade)...               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have some simms... 3 of them.. I don't know a whole lot bout them but surely
would be willing to trade for a 14400 modem, I am opening my BBS back up and
that modem would be a great deal for me..

The tag on the simms say:  CHPSIMIMGX9-7
                           V1185E309
                           Do Not Remove

This is a white label with soft blue letters in back sayining OEM.

If you're interested  Please leave notote soon..

Kimberly Jones.. or call (910)313-0295.

Thanks..

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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 10086
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 01/13/94 12:37a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog Available                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jim Lambert uttered the following to All :
 -JL> For everybody interested in great prices on the latest
 -JL> CD-Roms, we have a catalog available for download from Computer Works
 -JL> that lists each title, price and description.  You can download on the
 -JL> first call.  We will mail a list of titles and prices to anyone
 -JL> requesting a copy and posting their address or calling us voice.

Well, if you have dealer pricing, please send a copy to me at 710 W. Meade
Dr., Nashville, Tn, 37205....  Thanks...

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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 10087
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 01/13/94 12:56a
Subj: SHOWOFF!                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Was interested in reselling some of your stuff.  Is there any way I might
could get a dealer price list or a phone number to talk to someone about it?
Thanks...  Or you could call me at 615-356-1967 or send me all literature at
the following address...:
                                Bryan Cotter
                                Creative Computer Consulting
                                710 W. Meade Dr.
                                Nashville, Tn 37205

Thanks again...

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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 10088
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/13/94  1:16a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Joe Rinehart uttered the following to All :
 -JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************

Hey Joe,
         Throw one of them there lists this way...<G>  And please include any
dealer pricing as well...

                                Bryan Cotter
                                Creative Computer Consulting
                                710 W. Meade Dr.
                                Nashville, Tn 37205
Thanks...

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From: BRAD WARTMAN                           Number: 10089
  To: GARY MULLETT                             Date: 01/13/94  5:27a
Subj: Adult Cd-rom discs                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GM>BW>2 adult CD-ROM disks for sale:
GM>
GM>BW>        General Appeal & Nudes
GM>BW>        Perversia Galore
GM>
GM>Interested in any trades for another adult CD-ROM?

Thanks for the offer, but I'm only looking to sell these disks, not trade.


 * WinQwk 2.0 #0 * Unregistered Evaluation Copy


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From: DOUG MCCLELLAN                         Number: 10090
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/13/94  1:30p
Subj: seedy rom 7th heaven                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

I've had seedy rom 7th heaven on backorder for over a month now.
What's the status on it? I'd accept a different title in exchange, but I
don't have a current catalog - can you either send me one, or give me an
update on seedy rom?  -Doug


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From: ROBERT STUCKEY                         Number: 10091
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/13/94  9:20a
Subj: Reply to Reply about fair               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  If something retails for $80, and you sell it new for $54, and somebody has
it for sale, used, for $40, it's a pretty good deal, not just fair.  (of
course - ÿiõ!D‰2¼Ú[¥³»ÒãýÿÛßow3ÿ 
everything can be found for less than retail, usually...

  But your point of being used....    What does it matter if a CD is used? 
What, do they wear out?


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From: GEORGE JORDAN                          Number: 10092
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/13/94  4:02p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Joe can you send me a catalog?

George Jordan
11108 N.W. Lema Dr. Apt9
Parkville Mo. 64152

George Jordan

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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 10093
  To: JASON DARPA                              Date: 01/12/94 11:47a
Subj: Cd-Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sony CDU-31A internal CD-Rom drive. 300ms 150kb transfer rate.
1 year old in excellent condition.

$125 or best offer.

Cables included.
 
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 10094
  To: MIKE WALKER                              Date: 01/12/94 11:47a
Subj: Phonebook Cd                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MW> I need one of those super duper PhoneBook Cd's with reverse.
MW> Instead of looking for name you can look up by everything else...
MW> Name, price, and number to order would be nice

I have a used one, 1993 edition 7 disc set.  Less than a year old of
course. Perfect condition. $75 shipped.
 
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From: DOUGLAS BELL                           Number: 10095
  To: DAVID HILL                               Date: 01/12/94 11:51a
Subj: Used disks for sale/trade               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DHú Local Girls - (R-Rated pics) == $10
DHú Island Girls - (R-Rated pics) == $10
DHú Secret Weapons of the Luftewaffe (Flying game) == $12
DHú Kings Quest V (Adventure game -Requires Windows) == $12
DHú Microsoft Home Sampler (Free if you buy/trade for all four above)

DHú Willing to trade for any other discs I don't already have.
DHú 817-428-1219

Would you be interested in a trade for Software Toolworks CD Deluxe Pack
which includes: Chessmaster 3000, Mavis Beacon, US & World MM Atlas Pack
on it ..

If so, let me know .. Thanks .. 303-467-1294

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From: DOUGLAS BELL                           Number: 10096
  To: JASON CHANCELLOR                         Date: 01/12/94 11:51a
Subj: CD Recorders                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JCúHey,
JCú    I am in the market to purchase a CD Recorder and was wondering if someon
JCúcould point me in the right direction.  What I am looking for is a recorder
JCúthat will record Sound CD's from my mitsumi CD-Rom drive and can also record
JCúplane files from my hard drive.  Of course it is necessary that it records i
JCúway that other types of CD-Rom drives can read.  I've glanced through Comput

Both are nice units Philips will run you around $4600 ..
There functionally about the same with the exception of double vs single
speed ..

If you're interested, I've a Ricoh RS-9200CD Recorder for $3200 ..
Includes: Dataware CD Record 2.0 Software

Thanks .. 303-467-1294 .. After 20th 505-758-5782 ..
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From: MIKE STEFFEN                           Number: 10097
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94  6:10a
Subj: Martin Yee                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Used disks for sale/trade
BY: Martin Yee (1:125/217)

>Macmillan Dictionary for Children MPC CDROM The Animals! MPC CDROM OS2.1 Beta 

Wanna sell these two?

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From: MICHAEL CHOWNING                       Number: 10098
  To: CHUCK WARREN                             Date: 01/13/94  8:19p
Subj: PIONEER 6 CD-CHANGER WANT               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 >    The least I would accept would be $550 plus shipping.  I only 

Chuck, did you get my net mail message?
                Mike

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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 10099
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94 11:03p
Subj: User's Choice Windows CD                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

             ***** New Release From CMS ***** 
 
          !!!!! THE PERFECT CHRISTMAS GIFT !!!!! 
 
         ** The User's Choice Windows Archive ** 
 
This disc contains 674 MEGABYTES of Windows (TM) and Windows 
related software!  This brand new archive contains a well 
rounded collection of everything you can imagine for Windows. 
 
This CD is BBS ready with multi-line file descriptions included 
for use with PCBoard, Spitfire, and other BBS software.  This 
CD is filled to near capacity.  Below is an idea of what is 
included on this new CD. 
 
For a detailed file listing call the CMS support BBS at 
812-898-2561 and look in file area #3.  Available first call. 
HST 14,400 online. 
 
Now shipping!  $29.95 + shipping. 
 
     MASTER DIRECTORY INFORMATION FOR: User's Choice Windows Archive 
 
  DIRECTORY NAME     # OF FILES     TOTAL DIR SIZE    AVERAGE FILE SIZE 
------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
 
    \BMP                 597          52,045,856            87,179 
    \DEMOS               107          36,699,344           342,985 
    \DRVRS               188          35,598,120           189,352 
    \DT                  320          19,347,468            60,461 
    \MISC1               442          49,591,180           112,197 
    \MISC2               471          44,340,448            94,141 
    \SND                 709          28,458,186            40,138 
    \TRUETYPE            410          15,188,178            37,044 
    \UTILITY1            353          31,131,692            88,192 
    \UTILITY2            326          29,949,432            91,869 
    \UTILITY3            281          17,233,922            61,331 
    \WAV                 462          24,777,100            53,630 
    \WINDOWS1            368          26,157,714            71,081 
    \WINDOWS2            234          17,390,996            74,320 
    \WINDOWS3            127           9,027,428            71,082 
    \WINDOWS4            254          16,199,350            63,777 
    \WINDOWS5            377          37,847,440           100,391 
    \WINGAMES            451          25,957,276            57,555 
    \WIN_A_D             499          33,426,814            66,988 
    \WIN_E_H             239          16,486,184            68,980 
    \WIN_I_L             143          10,912,175            76,309 
    \WIN_M_P             301          22,537,884            74,877 
    \WIN_Q_T             337          20,480,492            60,773 
    \WIN_U_Z             494          40,391,104            81,763 
---------------------------- ------------------- ----------------- 
 
T O T A L S:           5,945         674,175,808            77,877 
 
 
Order TODAY from: 
 
    CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
                TELEPHONE: 812-442-0110 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 10100
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94 11:03p
Subj: Panasonic CD-ROM Drives                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

IN STOCK READY FOR SHIPMENT!        VISA/MASTERCARD ACCEPTED 
 
Panasonic 562 double spin drives.  Will hook up directly to the 
Sound Blaster Pro card.  300K/Second data transfer rate!  Complete 
kit with everything you need to use the drive.  $229.95 complete. 
Prices reflect a 3% discount for cash. 
 
CMS, SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
812-442-0110 9 am to 9 pm Indiana time. 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 10101
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94 11:03p
Subj: CD-ROM Software Bundles                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Look below for some great CD-ROM Software Bundles from CMS. 
All discs are IN STOCK ready for shipment. 
 
               ***** SINGLE CD PRICING ***** 
 
Software Tool Chest - $29.95   Physical Therapy Adult   - $29.95 
ShareWare OnLine #2 - $39.95   Adult Reference Library  - $29.95 
GameWare Collection - $29.95   SoundWare Collection     - $39.95 
Storm-2 Adult       - $22.95   Storm-3 Adult            - $24.95 
Digital Dreams Adult- $24.95   A.P.L. Adult             - $37.95 
User's Choice Windows $29.95   Swimwear                 - $19.95 
Digital Dreams 2    - $29.95   Software Treasure Chest  - $24.95 
 
              ***** BUNDLED CD PRICING ***** 
 
User's Choice Windows          SoundWare Collection 
ShareWare OnLine #2            GameWare Collection 
    $44.95                         $49.95 
 
ShareWare OnLine #2            Storm-3 Adult 
SoundWare Collection           A.P.L. Adult 
GameWare Collection            Adult Reference Library 
User's Choice Windows          Physical Therapy Adult 
Software Treasure Chest        Storm-2 Adult 
A.P.L. Adult                       $119.95 
Software Tool Chest 
    $149.95 
                               User's Choice Windows 
Software Treasure Chest        ShareWare OnLine #2 
ShareWare OnLine #2            A.P.L. Adult 
    $39.95                     Storm-2 
                                   $69.95 
 
Storm-2 Adult                  Storm-2 Adult 
Storm-3 Adult                  Storm-3 Adult 
    $39.95                     A.P.L. Adult 
                                   $69.95 
 
Adult Reference Library        A.P.L. Adult 
Storm-2 Adult                  Physical Therapy Adult 
Physical Therapy Adult             $49.95 
    $69.95 
                               ShareWare OnLine #2 
A.P.L./User's Choice           A.P.L. Adult 
    $44.95                         $44.95 
 
CMS accepts Visa & Mastercard, check, M.O., and COD orders. 
$5.00 standard shipping on any order.  These prices are in 
effect for a short time only.  Get your orders sent TODAY! 
CMS does accept your trades!  PUBLISHERS: Call us to trade 
your titles for ours! 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
TELEPHONE: 812-442-0110 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 10102
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94 11:03p
Subj: New Adult CD-ROM Title                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! 
 
                        The A.P.L. CD-ROM! 
 
The APL or Adult Picture Library is now available!  This CD-ROM 
is EXPLODING with 689 of R and X rated adult .GIF pictures, .GL 
movies, .DL movies, and .FLI animation!  All 100% high resolution 
pictures only around 12 pictures less than 100,000 bytes in size! 
This disc contains the following: 
 
     3,112 .GIF Pictures 
        84 .FLI Movies 
       168 .GL Movies 
        90 .DL Movies 
 
+ many programs and graphics viewing software for a GIANT 689 
MEG 100% PREMIUM QUALITY collection.  Pick up your copy today! 
 
Now shipping.  $37.95 + $5.00 standard shipping. 
Dealer pricing is available.  Call for more information. 
 
Get ShareWare OnLine #2 for only $19.95 with purchase! 
 
Mastercard, Visa, personal check, company check, money order or 
cash COD orders are accepted. 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878   812-442-0110 
 
A.P.L./Adult Reference Library - $59.95 
A.P.L./Storm-2 Adult - $49.95 
A.P.L./Physical Therapy - $54.95 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 10103
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94 11:03p
Subj: CD-ROM Software Elimination             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   CMS SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING 
                         P.O. BOX 165 
                     SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
                         812-442-0110 
 
                      Updated 01-13-1994 
 
Its a fact.  CMS is overstocked and to make room for the 
upcomming remodeling and expansion of CMS Software we MUST 
LIQUIDATE the following inventory.  Grab any of the following 
discs for $15 each, unless otherwise noted, while supplies last. 
Buy 7 and select one FREE*.  We will hold nothing back until this 
inventory is GONE.  One of some titles and hundreds of others 
but it ALL must go.  Some discs are used and most are new but 
all are guaranteed against defects.  Dealers call now for bulk 
pricing.  You may grab as many as you like and pay only $5 
shipping.  You may place your order on Mastercard or Visa or we 
will ship your order COD for $5.00 additional.  You may mail 
your order with a personal check or money order to the address 
at the top of this ad.  * Free CD must be $15 or less.  A small 
insurance fee is added to each order. 
 
Barney Bear Goes to School      Physical Therapy Adult ($25) 
Sophisticated Sante Fe          1993 Multi-Media Bookshelf ($35) 
Barney Bear Goes to Space       Fresh Arte Clipart 
Magnum Sight & Sound            Audubon's Birds MM ($20) 
American Business Phone Book    Hamware 1993 ($20) 
FontMaster                      Toolworks MM Enyc. 1.5 ($30) 
LaserTax On CD-ROM              Consumer Guide to CD-ROMs 
Clipart Goliath                 Bibles & Religion 
Black Box Shareware #4          Black Box Shareware #5 
Colossal Cookbook               Career Opportunities 
2000 Pictures CD-ROM    Random House Unabridged Dictionary ($30) 
ShareWare OnLine II             So Much Shareware #2 
Software Treasure Chest         Crossword Cracker 
PC Gameroom                     LookUp 9 Digit ZIP Lookup ($25) 
DataBase Made Easy              Swimwear 1993 
Super CD W/Super BBS            AB20 Amiga Archives 
Storm #2 ($20)                  Storm #3 ($20) 
Mother Earth II                 Fightsmart 
Adult Reference Library ($25)   So Much Modem Madness ($20) 
Middle East Diary               Time Almanac 
Quick Art Clipart               PC Sig Library 
Between Heaven & Hell II        Digital Dreams #2 ($25) 
Ham Radio Shareware             Danger Hot Stuff 
Klotski Polish Puzzles          C/C++ Programmers Library 
CAD Utility Library             MPC Wizard 
Paolo Galli Portfolio #1 ($20)  Paolo Galli Portfolio #2 ($20) 
------------------------------------------------------------ 
Grab the following titles for only $10.00 each while supplies 
last.  1 of some and 100's of others but all will surely go 
quickly so get you orders in today. 
 
Phoenix Phun & Games            Brain Drain Games 
Oldies But Goodies Games        Bed & Breakfast Photo Tour 
Mirror Mirror                   Reel Clips 
Futura Games                    Let's Play (Games) 
Variety Store (Games)           Taxprep 
Selectware Software 
 
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From: ROB O'DELL                             Number: 10104
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/13/94  3:34p
Subj: SPECIAL                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~[ B B S   S P E C I A L  B U N D L E S ]~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
->
-> 6. Pier 3
->    Cream Of The Crop II
->    Price - $45.00
->

Give me a price on 2 Pier 3's and 1 Cream of the Crop II.

Also, do you have any adult CDs?


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From: ROB O'DELL                             Number: 10105
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 01/13/94  3:42p
Subj: Re: Adult CD Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  MF> 1. Giffy Gold
->
-> How about FAO 3 (For Adults Only) trade for the above.
-> Randy Neuner


I've got Giffy Gold that I'd be willing to trade for FAO 3.

Let me know..


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From: ROB O'DELL                             Number: 10106
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94  3:49p
Subj: FAO and shareware                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I need the following discs:

FAO 2 and FAO 3  (or comparable discs)
Pier 3 and Night Owl 10.1

I also have some discs I'd like to sell/trade:

Microsoft Small Business Consultant/Stat Pack
So Much Stareware (adult)
Giffy Gold (amature adult)
Hobbes OS/2 Nov. 1992


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From: GORDON IRELAND                         Number: 10107
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94 12:23p
Subj: Home Medical Advisor Pro                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Could any dealer please advise me on a price for Home Medical Advisor
Pro on CD-ROM by Pixel Perfect Software.

Thanks
Gord
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From: GORDON IRELAND                         Number: 10108
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94 12:25p
Subj: Home Medical Advisor                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If anyone has and would like to sell their copy of Home Medical Advisor
Pro On CDROM, please netmail me at 134/10 with costs.

Thanks,
Gord
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From: HOWARD ONEIL                           Number: 10109
  To: LOUIS DIGGS                              Date: 01/13/94 12:57a
Subj: Trade Wanted                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Louis :

   The drive is internal, and has an IBM controller.  I think I've heard
of them being used with MAC's, but anyhow, I am in the process of
trading it.

   Thanks for the responce!

Howard O'


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From: JAMES CLEVENGER                        Number: 10110
  To: JAMES GRIMSLEY                           Date: 01/12/94  6:31p
Subj: Re: Commodore PD CD-ROM wanted          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Is there actually a CD-ROM drive that will work on the C-64 or C-128? Or does
the CD-ROM disc you speak of just have a big archive of 8-bit files designed
for BBS use on an IBM or Amiga or something?


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From: ANTHONY LEE                            Number: 10111
  To: BRAD WARTMAN                             Date: 01/12/94  5:15p
Subj: Adult CD-ROM discs                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Have you gotten rid of the 2 cd's yet... let me know.. I am interested....

thanks.
you can call my bbs if you like ...... The Black Wyvern BBS 703-992-5338.

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From: BARRY FOX                              Number: 10112
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94  7:54p
Subj: Strike Commander CD                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for a good price on Origin's Strike Commander on CD-ROM.  I have seen
it retail for $69.95 at the local Electronics Boutique, but figure the CD-ROM
dealers here can beat that price.  Please reply here or by netmail.

--------Barry Fox
 

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From: ROBERT BRIGGS                          Number: 10113
  To: CHRIS CONKLIN                            Date: 01/13/94 11:17a
Subj: Cd's wanted                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CC>Let me know if you are intersted.....    I accept MO, Check or will ship
CC>COD for $4.00 extra.....

I'll take it, and don't mind paying the extra $4.00.  Get it out to me COD,
ASAP!  I'm even willing to pay a bit extra for 2 day or better service.....

Ship to:

        Robert Briggs
        C/O Dow Jones Telerate Software
        1017 Pleasant Street
        New Orleans, LA   70115

I can be net-mailed at 1:396/81, if you have any questions......

===Bob Briggs

 * SLMR 2.1a * No, you -CAN'T- pay your phone bill at Taco Bell


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From: ROBERT BRIGGS                          Number: 10114
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94 11:17a
Subj: Cd desperately wanted!!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WANTED DESPERATELY!!!

        A CD I published last year called "FUN-N-GAMES".  Only a very
        limited number of copies were printed, very specific to PCBoard
        systems.....

Please contact me here or net-mail to 1:396/81

Thanks!

===Bob Briggs


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 10115
  To: MIKE FURST                               Date: 01/13/94  4:49a
Subj: Re: Adult CD Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MF>RN> MF> 1. Giffy Gold

MF>RN>How about FAO 3 (For Adults Only) trade for the above.
MF>  >Randy Neuner


MF>Sounds like a trade, I'll send mine out Friday the 14th if you
MF>respond to this message to let me know if you received it....

Mike, rec your msg and ready to send FAO 3.  WHat is your address for
mailing?  Send GG to:

Randy Neuner
196 Hughes St
Ft Huachuca, AZ 85613    (v) 602-459-3480

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From: WARREN PASSLER                         Number: 10116
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94 10:15p
Subj: Please.                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Any Dealers send me a CD Catalog (BBS Ready only).

                StarBase 210 BBS
                P.O. Box 116
                Bonner Springs, KS. 66012-0116

P.S.  Also intrested in ADULT CD Catalogs.



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From: TIM HUNT                               Number: 10117
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/13/94  9:32p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send me a copy--thanks
Tim Hunt
6911 Eby Ave.
Merriam ,Ks 66204

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From: TIM HUNT                               Number: 10118
  To: BILL BALDWIN                             Date: 01/13/94  9:50p
Subj: catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Add me to the list as well--
Tim Hunt
6911 Eby Ave.
Merriam, Ks 66204 
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From: JOHN LUNDY                             Number: 10119
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94  4:43p
Subj: Adult CDrom's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       I have a couple of adult cdroms I'm looking to sell or trade,
leave a message here with any offers or netmail to 1:124/6006 and I'll
get back to you.

        1) New Wave Hookers, runs in Windows, full motion video
        2) L.A. Strippers, runs in DOS, full motion video
        3) 101 Sex Positions Pt.2, runs in dos, full motion video

Please, no one under 18....

                      -= John =-


 * QMPro 1.51 * Why can't women put the toilet seat back up!?

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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 10120
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94 11:19a
Subj: MS Dinosaurs,Beethoven,etc.             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Microsoft CD ROMS:
        
        MS Dinosaurs
        MS Musical Instruments
        MS Beethoven

        All in box w/reg cards
        
        $45ea. or 3/$125

        Also 1991 MS Bookshelf for DOS- $25

        412-761-9090

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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 10121
  To: KEVIN DOUGLAS                            Date: 01/11/94  9:40p
Subj: Re: Flame? Anybody seen it??            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

is there a file list of this cd, that can be downloaded?

           Thanks...
             Ken
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From: L RICHARD JOHNSON                      Number: 10122
  To: MIKE BILOW                               Date: 01/12/94  9:25a
Subj: CDROM Drives                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Mike Bilow to L Richard Johnson dated 01-10-94 ***
> In a msg on <Jan 07 04:06>, L Richard Johnson of 1:226/590 writes:
> 
>  LRJ> You're apparent lack of response leaves no choice but to file 
>  LRJ> charges against you for fraud. I give three days to respond. The 
>  LRJ> choice is yours.
> 
> I can see it now in court:
> 
> Q.  What assurance do you have that your complaint was received and 
> ignored, as opposed to not being received?
> 
> A.  I sent it by echomail.
> 
> Q.  What is "echomail?"
> 
> A.  It is a highly reliable communications system which consists of a 
> lot of different systems, operated by people I don't actually know and 
> of varying degrees of technical competence, relaying the message 
> numerous times until one copy reaches the intended destination.
> 

I have also called voice and sent snail mail. Seems to be ignoring all
communications now. A Registered letter will be sent next. Also I have learned
of a least one other person ripped off by this person. If there are any others
out there that have dealt with Pat Rickerson and have not gotten what they paid
for, I would like to hear from them as I am building a case against her for
mail fraud.

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 10123
  To: CHRIS CONKLIN                            Date: 01/12/94 12:24a
Subj: Seedy 6-Pac $99                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CC>I have two sealed packages left of the Seedy Rom 6 pack.

Chris,   I am VERY sorry, but I can not buy this due to lack of cash.
If you could accept MasterCard, I would gladly buy this at this
excellent price.  I may check back with you in another week or so when I
may be able to afford this.  Thanks,   Shane
 þ SLMR 2.1a þ 

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From: DON ROBINSON                           Number: 10124
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/28/93  8:53p
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For Sale
==========
Guiness Disc of Records 1990
Toolworks CD Game Pack

Make offer or trade

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From: ED KELLERMANN                          Number: 10125
  To: JON CHRISMAN                             Date: 12/31/93  7:19p
Subj: Re: CD 6-Pack                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JC> Any one have any information on the Pioneer CD 6-pack? Am seriously looking
JC> adding it to my BBS system. Is it a good, strong, reliable product? Any and
JC> all opinions would be appreciated. I will soon have over 10 CD's and the
JC> 6-pack seems to be the most economical way than single CD units.
JC> 

I'm running a  -604X,  have been for 6 months or so.  Absolutly no problems, 
teamed up with a Future Domain Controller, install was easy, I/O is extremely 
fast.  No hitches what so ever using Renegade 07-17 ...  You're right, it 
amounts to 6 for the price of 3. 

                        Ed

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From: CHARLIE SMITH                          Number: 10126
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/10/94  7:29p
Subj: Please.                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   Any Dealers send me a CD Catalog (BBS Ready only).

          Shock Wave
          307 Gerber Dairy Rd.
          Winter Haven, FL 33880

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From: ROBERT KELLER                          Number: 10127
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/11/94 10:15p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Joe,
  We talked on the phone during the holidays and you said you'd mail
me a catalog. Well just in case you need my address:
                  Mr. Robert C. Keller
                  15131 SW 31 Ct.
                  Davie , Fl.  33331-2624
  Have FUN , Bob....


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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 10128
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 01/11/94 10:57p
Subj: adult cd                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Trade ya for Storm I.

Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 10129
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 01/11/94 10:59p
Subj: Bbv2 For Trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Will trade you BBI v3 for FAO 3..

Scott rAley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 10130
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 01/12/94  9:10p
Subj: Used disks for sale/l                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will give ya $25 for FAO3 shipped to me via 2nd day mail.

Let me know...

Scott Raley
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From: LOUIS DIGGS                            Number: 10131
  To: TOM MILLER                               Date: 01/12/94 10:41p
Subj: TOSHIBA                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm afraid not, Tom. Would you by any chance know of anyone that would like to
sell some used CD disks that are compatable to the Mac. I am just getting into
CD-ROM (just brought an Apple CD-ROM 300). This whole thing is really newto
me, but I would like to purchase some used disks before putting the big bucks
out for new ones.
Thanks. 
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 10132
  To: L RICHARD JOHNSON                        Date: 01/14/94  7:54p
Subj: CDROM Drives                            Refer: 13593
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> I have also called voice and sent snail mail. Seems to be ignoring al
-> communications now. A Registered letter will be sent next. Also I hav
-> of a least one other person ripped off by this person. If there are a
-> out there that have dealt with Pat Rickerson and have not gotten what
-> for, I would like to hear from them as I am building a case against h
-> mail fraud.

DO NOT continue this thread!

tim
moderator
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From: CHRIS CONKLIN                          Number: 10133
  To: MARK PAYNE                               Date: 01/12/94  8:45p
Subj: Re: Seedy 6-Pac $99                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for your reply.   Sorry to report however, that I am now completely
sold out of the Seedy Six Pac sets.....

TTYL

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From: CHRIS CONKLIN                          Number: 10134
  To: ROBERT BRIGGS                            Date: 01/12/94  8:45p
Subj: Re: Seedy rom 6-pack                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Robert,

   I am now completely sold out of the Six pack sets...   Thanks for the
reply.


TTYL

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From: CHRIS CONKLIN                          Number: 10135
  To: DAVID RYDER                              Date: 01/12/94  8:48p
Subj: Re: SEEDY 6-PAC $99                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi David

    I have been rapidly adding new titles to my stock so have not compiled a
new catalog as of this time.  Plan to do so within the next week however.

     Alot of new and exciting titles are now available, and I still aim to
offer them at or below anyone's prices!

     Give me a call if you are looking for anything in particular, as I may
already have it in stock....

Hell Cab
Iron Helix
INCA
Rebel Assault
JFK
Wing Commander II

Plus dozens more!
915-944-7187

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From: BOB HAMILTON                           Number: 10136
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 01/13/94  8:12a
Subj: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > >> * SLMR 2.1a * I still miss my ex-wife, but my aim is getting
 > >> better.

 > BH> That isn't funny.

 > Why not?  I think it is.  ;-)

It isn't.
 
Bob.
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From: MICHAEL PHUONG                         Number: 10137
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94 10:18p
Subj: NEC CDROM DRIVE WANTED                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I looking for used NEC CDR-74 CD-ROM Drive.  If you have one for sale,
please contact me at (800) 297-6905 or reply here.

 * SLMR 2.1a * --T-A+G-L-I+N-E--+M-E-A+S-U-R+I-N-G+--G-A+U-G-E--


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From: RICK AURAS                             Number: 10138
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94 10:45p
Subj: CD ROM FOR TRADE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have an extra unused copy of the Toolworks Multimedia encyclopedia
with I would like to trade for another CD.  Let me know if you have
any CD's for trade..

... Rick Auras, P.O. Box 458821, San Antonio, TX 78280  
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: ALAN ORNDORFF                          Number: 10139
  To: KEITH SHEEHAN                            Date: 01/13/94  8:03p
Subj: OS/2 2.0 CD-ROMS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KS>I wish to find out from you users out there which of the currently available
  >OS/2 2.x dedicated CD-ROMs is the best? I want to have an unbiased opinion
  >from those who actually use them. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Tha
  >in advance.

The only 2.x DEDICATED CD I'm aware of is OS/2 Box.  It is a good cd to
own.  Has about 330 Mb's of stuff for OS/2.  The 10/93 Hobbes has over
600 Mb's but has a lot of 1.x mixed in also.

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From: ROD WILEY                              Number: 10140
  To: ALAN EVANS                               Date: 01/13/94 10:29a
Subj: RE: CD-ROM Software Elimination         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AE>                    CMS SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING
AE>                          P.O. BOX 165
AE>                      SEELYVILLE, IN  47878
AE>                          812-442-0110
AE>                       Updated 01-11-1994

  Do you have a cd titled Mad Dog Mcgrea?
I'm looking for this one. If you have it I'll buy it from ya. Let me know here 
or you can call me at 515 672 2287. Leave a message on the answering machine
and I'll get back with ya. Thanks.

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From: MICHAEL BLITCH                         Number: 10141
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/10/94  5:10p
Subj: CD-Catalog wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in one copy of each catalog from a vendor. I do not want
to be placed on a mailing list as I will make decisions based on the
first catalogs and the pricings of others including shipping. Please
send one copy to...

Mike Blitch
1853 Capri DR
Charleston SC 29407

Thank you.
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 10142
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 01/14/94  9:13a
Subj: Macro Media                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MH>I have Macro Media that came with my drive for sale at $20.00 plus $2.90 two
MH>day shipped. Includes manual and discount coupon.

   What is it?
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ I'm no longer young enough to know it all


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 10143
  To: TOM PAPAS                                Date: 01/14/94  5:31p
Subj: Re: CDROM Drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Keith Looney <01-12-94 09:07> Tom Papas wrote:

TP>>  > I sent a money order for $88 and the item was never

.... and if your money order is from the US Post Office, this could give you
some Federal leverage, contact the US Postmaster in your area, if this MO was
from them--

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: BILL YELVERTON                         Number: 10144
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/12/94  2:15p
Subj: Re: !free Cd Catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like a catalog. Please send to :Bill Yelverton
                                        P.O. BOX 876
                                        Fremont NC 27830-0876

... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: RICHARD KONG                           Number: 10145
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/13/94 10:16p
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
 > *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
 > For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW
 > catalog...
 > If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information
 
I'd like a copy of your catalog.  Please send one to:
 
Richard S. Kong
5530 Fifth Ave., Apt. 8A
Pittsburgh, PA 15232
 
Thanks. 

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From: MIKE ROARK                             Number: 10146
  To: ZEBULYN                                  Date: 01/13/94  8:53a
Subj: For sale or trade                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Zebulyn!

Sunday January 09 1994 14:35, Zebulyn wrote to All:

 Z>         My Boyfriend has a yellow 1968 (classic) Champ Speedboat.  17'- 6",
 Z> New 350 Magnum marine engine with mini blower, new Mercruiser Alpha 1
 Z> outdrive, new apolstry and guages.  It was apraised at $19,000. selling for
 Z> $8,000.  He is also willing to trade it for an Iroc plus cash.  For more
 Z> information you can contact him at either 775-0801 or 775-0313 just ask for
 Z> David, and of course you can leave me a message and I will have him call
 Z> you.

My only question is how am I going to fit this into my computer and is it SCSI
or proprietory????


Mike

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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 10147
  To: CLINT SAVAGE                             Date: 01/13/94  1:21p
Subj: Random House Dictionary                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Clint -

   CS> Looking for the CD "The Random House UNABRIDGED Dictionary.

The lowest price on this item is from Price/Costco (Price Club and
Costco have merged).

They are currently charging $57.00 for the 159.95 package (both CD-ROM
and printed version).

Contrary to popular opinion, you DO NOT have to be a member to purchase
at Price/Costco.  You can get into the warehouse on a "1-day" pass as a
non-member.  You'll have to pay 5 percent above their member price.

                                                  - Arnie :+}

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From: CHRIS JOHNSON                          Number: 10148
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/13/94  6:34p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
 JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
 JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
 JR> We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
 JR> CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
 JR>         Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
 JR>     FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
 JR> Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
 JR> P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
 JR> Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

        PLEASE send a copy to:

                Chris Johnson
                1302 Concord Ave
                Southlake Texas
                76092-9499



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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10149
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94  6:39a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)44k
DESCRIPT FREQ: descript.zip   (about 800 cd-rom disc descriptions)70k
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10150
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94  6:39a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
                        ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $110.00 30day warrantee
Refurbished  NEC Model 36       CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee

                    ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee

                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
14.4 Power supply..................$10.00 ea.
external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
Shipping (drives)$25.00 for up to 2 drives,$40.00 for 3-4 drives.

                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
offering all
refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit, to be
shipped
upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30 days for
receipt of
your refurbished drive.

                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariat.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10151
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94  3:36a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)44k
DESCRIPT FREQ: descript.zip   (about 800 cd-rom disc descriptions)70k
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10152
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94  3:36a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
                        ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $110.00 30day warrantee
Refurbished  NEC Model 36       CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee

                    ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee

                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
14.4 Power supply..................$10.00 ea.
external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
Shipping (drives)$25.00 for up to 2 drives,$40.00 for 3-4 drives.

                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
offering all
refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit, to be
shipped
upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30 days for
receipt of
your refurbished drive.

                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariat.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JEAN CASH                              Number: 10153
  To: ALAN EVANS                               Date: 01/12/94  4:59p
Subj: Re: Panasonic CD-ROM Dri                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Alan Evans to All <=-

 AE> IN STOCK READY FOR SHIPMENT!        VISA/MASTERCARD ACCEPTED 
 AE> 
 AE> Panasonic 562 double spin drives.  Will hook up directly to the 
 AE> Sound Blaster Pro card.  300K/Second data transfer rate!  Complete 
 AE> kit with everything you need to use the drive.  $229.95 complete. 
 AE> Prices reflect a 3% discount for cash. 

Alan:

Do you have this in External Drive?  What is the Access Speed?  If this
does not come in External, what size bay is required?  I have a Packard
Bell Legend 650X and do not believe it will accept an Internal Drive.

Please advise.

Jean Cash                              Voice Phone (405) 525-6344           
1412 N.W. 25th Street                  FAX (405) 525-9594
Oklahoma City, OK 73106-3604

... Shopping tip: Shoes are $.85 at bowling alleys.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: ROBERT BRIGGS                          Number: 10154
  To: CHRIS CONKLIN                            Date: 01/14/94  2:54p
Subj: Re: seedy rom 6-pack                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CC>Hi Robert,

CC>   I am now completely sold out of the Six pack sets...   Thanks for the  re

Bummer!

===Bob Briggs

 * SLMR 2.1a * Dammit Jim!  I'm a doctor, not a tagline!


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From: TONY GRANATOWSKI                       Number: 10155
  To: ANDY BRICK                               Date: 01/14/94  9:38p
Subj: T7g & loom trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AB>  I have the Utima 6 /Wing Commander I CDrom for trade. Interested?
AB>  Let me know. Later
AB>

Want Loom for it?  Let me know


Tony
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From: J.R. REED                              Number: 10156
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94  4:02p
Subj: APL                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for the APL disc. I will pay up to $30+ C.O.D. charges.  Leave me
a message here if interested.
                                    -J.R. Reed

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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 10157
  To: SCOTT WILLIS                             Date: 01/14/94 10:42a
Subj: for sale/trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SW> i have the new sierra game gabriel knight for sale or trade.if you
SW> would like to trade leave me a list of what you have

$27.50 or I have the following to trade:

For sale or trade.  Some of Sierra and Dynamix best games EVER.

Front Page Sports Football    -  $17.90 shipped
Aces of the Pacific           -  $17.90 shipped
Police Quest 3                -  $17.90 shipped
Police Quest I                -  $12.90 shipped
Comanche Maximum Overkill     -  $17.90 shipped
Space Quest IV                -  $17.90 shipped
Alone in the Dark             -  $17.90 shipped
Rebel Assault- CD-rom         -  $35.00 shipped
Or get them all for $130 shipped.  Or in you case $100 + Gabe.
 
  SMRead 3.3  #?    
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 10158
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/08/94  9:18a
Subj: % CD-ROM Disks                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROMS for Sale

Software Options CD from IBM ...................  $13
The World Factbook - DOS .......................  $13
Calculus (Anton) 1st 3 chapters ................  $20
Loom ...........................................  $22
Q&A 4.0 from Symantec ..........................  $39
Tax-Prep 1993 ..................................  $12
CD-ROM Premier .................................  $12
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $14
PC Globe, PC USA and Automap ...................  $22
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $59
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $ 9
PC Sig Library 9th edition .....................  $11
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $14
Sneek Peeks from Sierra ........................  $13
Corel Art Show 3 with large Book ...............  $22
Phoenix-CD Version 3.0 .........................  $12
Chessmaster 3000 ...............................  $22
Groliers Encyclopedia .......................... SOLD

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Registered Symantec Q&A Consultant


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From: DAVID HILL                             Number: 10159
  To: DOUGLAS BELL                             Date: 01/14/94  4:40p
Subj: USED DISKS FOR SALE/TRADE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Doug,
  I think you have the wrong David Hill. That isn't me...

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From: JIM CHENEY                             Number: 10160
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/14/94 11:53a
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Joe Rinehart to All <=-

 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
 JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
 JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
 JR> Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
 JR> P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
 JR> Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

  OK, send me your catalog.

  Jim Cheney
  P.O. Box 1835
  Dearborn, MI 48121



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From: JOHN MAR                               Number: 10161
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/14/94 11:20p
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Joe could you send me a catalog

John Mar
1710 Shiloh
Wichita, KS. 67207

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From: CHARLES TYLER                          Number: 10162
  To: DALE DE WITT                             Date: 01/14/94  9:22p
Subj: Re: Rebel Assault Passcodes             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the help. I will try it.

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From: CHARLES TYLER                          Number: 10163
  To: ERIC OLSON                               Date: 01/14/94  9:24p
Subj: Re: REBEL ASSAULT PASSCODES             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks, I will try this one before asking for any more. 
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From: CHARLES TYLER                          Number: 10164
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 01/14/94  9:25p
Subj: Re: Rebel Assault Passcodes             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the help. I will try this one out for a while. 
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From: ROBIN HARDISON                         Number: 10165
  To: DANNY BRIGANCE                           Date: 01/13/94  8:48a
Subj: CDROM's                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

10-Jan-94, Danny Brigance wrote to All about CDROM's

 DB> Bible Library:    $20.00

 I'll take this if you can send it shipped COD for $25.
 Robin Hardison
 P.O. Box 1073
 Jasper, TN 37347

Thanks.


ÄÄÄ¿
   ÀÄÄÄ> Robin Hardison

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From: RAY MATTHEWS                           Number: 10166
  To: ROB O'DELL                               Date: 01/14/94  7:01p
Subj: FAO and shareware                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* in a message to All <13 Jan 94 15:49> Rob O'dell wrote:

 RO> I also have some discs I'd like to sell/trade:
 RO> Giffy Gold (amature adult)

    How much for this one, or would you trade for Amateur Models?

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From: ROCKY HURLEY                           Number: 10167
  To: SHERMAN HERRITT                          Date: 01/14/94 11:01a
Subj: !free cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
-> JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog... JR> If
-> you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.

 GK> Please send a copy to:

Rocky Hurley
1030 Henley Country Rd.
Asheboro, NC
            27203

Cya,
           Rocky/2 
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From: JAMES PATTERSON                        Number: 10168
  To: JAMES CLEVENGER                          Date: 01/14/94  8:47p
Subj: Re: JAGUAR/3DO                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


JC>Wow, when did they install a 1-800 number?

JC>P.S. Do you happen to know when they will release the CD-ROM gadget for the
  >Jaguar, and do they plan on such a thing for the Falcon?

The 1-800 number has been there for awhile.  Nowadays, they even have
someone to answer it! :^)

The CD-ROM is suppossed to be out sometime around 'mid' 94, so I guess
that means end of June, right?  Right.

You can already do CD-ROM on the Falcon (and TT/ST/STE).  In fact,
Walnut Creek just released an Atari shareware CD-ROM.

      _____
       /ed

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From: ROB O'DELL                             Number: 10169
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94 11:13p
Subj: NEC CDR-36 Drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


I have a few refurbished NEC CDR-36 CD-ROMs.

SCSI interface (no card)
Drop in loading (no caddy needed)
Portable
Includes manual and power supply
30 day warranty

$120

Untested NEC CDR-36 drives (NO WARRANTY)  $40

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From: ROBIN HARDISON                         Number: 10170
  To: MICHELLE SINES                           Date: 01/14/94  5:30a
Subj: Turbo Grafix-16 CD's                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

12-Jan-94, Michelle Sines wrote to All about Turbo Grafix-16 CD's

 MS> Anyone wishing to sell Turbo Grafix-16 CD's and Super CD games,
 MS> am interested in those I do not already have.

 I have a few CD games, but am wanting to sell my entire system, which is:

Turbo DUO - played VERY little
two controllers
DUO tap five player adapter
1 TG-16 joystick (needs adapter for DUO)

And the following games:
Gates of Thunder
Bonk's Adventure
Bonk's Revenge
Bomberman
Ninja Spirit
--The above were included with DUO when bought new
Legendary Axe II - Hu card
Fighting Street - CD - first version of Street Fighter
Forgotten Worlds - Super CD
Valis II - CD

Have all paperwork, manuals, and box (even the box is spotless :)

If you know of someone wanting a DUO let 'em know.  I'll take $225 or trade
for a big hard drive.  I'll give you your choice of a game if you pass
along a buyer :)

Thanks.

ÄÄÄ¿
   ÀÄÄÄ> Robin Hardison

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From: JEFF BLYSTONE                          Number: 10171
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94  1:07a
Subj: CD's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have 2 CD-ROM's to sell: 
     Studio Shareware III (10/93) - 640 megs of shareware progs. 
     The American Civil War (Quanta Press)
. 
        BOTH for $25
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From: NINO FAGAN                             Number: 10172
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 01/13/94  7:49a
Subj: Redirected Message                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Mike Bilow wrote  
------------------
:>>  Mike Bilow wrote
:>>
:>does anyone here carry the Info-Magic or Yggdrasil line of
:>unix-oriented disks such as Info-Magic "Internet Standards"?
:>>
:>
:>> Just the below one Mike and am please with it.  It's Yggdrasil.
:>
:>> RICHARD CARTER
:>> ComputerHelp
:>> PO Box 385041
:>> Bloomington, MN  55438-0041
:>> Ph:  (612) 890-4750
:>> Fax:  (612) 894-9411
:>
:>> Linux..........................$23.50
:>
:>> Shipping:  1-3 discs in one order = $4.50
:>
:>Thanks.  I will probably give you a voice phone call shortly.  Do you
:>have a catalog available?  A number of the dealers on the echo have 
:>been making their catalogs available for FReq.  Of course, I would not
:>mind if you crashmailed the catalog to me!
:>-- Mike
:> * Origin: N1BEE BBS +401 944 8498 V.32bis/HST16.8 (1:323/107) 
------------------

Richard, after answering Mike's question, he sent this to me.
Believe that he sould have given it to you.

Regards, 
Nino
... Ideas enclosed: may have settled in shipping.
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 10173
  To: RED KENNEDY                              Date: 01/10/94  1:11p
Subj: Re: Powerbox ii                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Red Kennedy to Sysop <=- 
 
 RK> Hi Dave 
  
 > Happy New Year! 
 RK> Same to you 
  
 > Damar Enterprises announces ANOTHER new release! 
  
 >                           The CD PowerBox Version 2.00 
 > 
 RK> When an the heck is a new CD Winbox comming out!!!!!!!!! 
 
 RK> Need some win32 apps for WFWG, win32 and NT 
 
 RK> ..Red.. 
 
We're looking at about the March time frame.  There is a "SourceBox" in the 
works right now.  Once that is taken care of, The WinBox II comes up to bat. 
 
Thnaks for your interest in our products and keep an eye in the echos!  <G> 
 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
 
  
... Damar Enterprises - Home of the shareware CD-boxes! 
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 10174
  To: MIKE BILOW                               Date: 01/11/94  6:53p
Subj: Re: cdrom drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 LRJ> You're apparent lack of response leaves no choice but to file  
 LRJ> charges against you for fraud. I give three days to respond. The  
 LRJ> choice is yours. 
 
 MB> I can see it now in court: 
 
 MB> Q.  What assurance do you have that your complaint was received and 
 MB> ignored, as opposed to not being received? 
 
 MB> A.  I sent it by echomail. 
 
 MB> Q.  What is "echomail?" 
 
 MB> A.  It is a highly reliable communications system which consists of a 
 MB> lot of different systems, operated by people I don't actually know and 
 MB> of varying degrees of technical competence, relaying the message 
 MB> numerous times until one copy reaches the intended destination. 
 
 MB> -- Mike 
 
 
This is great!  <HUGE GRIN> 
 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
 
  
... Damar Enterprises - Home of the UNIVERSAL INTERFACE! 
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From: AMY MOODY                              Number: 10175
  To: JERRY ZELLER                             Date: 01/14/94  8:01a
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Jerry,

-> Amy - let's just ship at the same time, if that's all right with you.
-> My address is 989 Wayson Way, Davidsonville, MD., 21035.  Leave your
-> address and I'll send a check immediately.  Jerry

No problem...I won't be able to ship the CD's until Tues... (my car is in the
shop getting a brake job..bummer), but my address is 5531 Kissing Oak, San
Antonio, Texas 78247.

SEEYA!
  Amy

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From: MIKE FURST                             Number: 10176
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 01/14/94  7:26p
Subj: Adult CD Trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Randy,
 Just to let you know, I got back late Friday Night and will have to
send out Giffy on Saturday. Hope this is not a inconvenience......

My Address is:

Mike Furst
3833 Iverson Lane
North Las Vegas, NV
89030-0610

 Good to do business!!

 * QMPro 1.51 * >ov++h+n AC*hanks for hanging up, dear.

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 10177
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 01/13/94 12:56p
Subj: Re: Bbv2 For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SR> Will trade you BBI v3 for FAO 3..

Scott, FAO 3 is gone, but I have Seedy Rom available.  Version six I
believe.
Randy


... " Every little BYTE helps "
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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 10178
  To: ADAM BRIAND                              Date: 01/14/94  4:27a
Subj: Adult CD Discs for trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AB>Ok, I live in Canada so it might cost us a few bucks more to ship (I hope
AB>that isn't a problem).  Just give me your address and I'll ship the disk
AB>out to you ASAP.  Here's my address :

AB>                       98 Wilce Dr.
AB>                      Ajax, Ontario
AB>                        L1T 3K3
AB>                        CANADA


Adam, FAO 3 was traded before I received your reply, sorry.  I do have
Seedy Rom #7 or The Adult Reference Library for trade if that is ok.

My address is:
Randy Neuner
196 Hughes St
Ft Huachuca, AZ 85613

The cost of shipping is not a problem.  Sorry for any confusion.
Randy

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 10179
  To: MIKE STEFFAN                             Date: 01/14/94  4:29a
Subj: Adult CD Discs for trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike your disc went out on Monday, FYI.
Randy Neuner


 * QMPro 1.51 * If at first you don't succeed, try skydiving ...


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 10180
  To: MR. HOMIE                                Date: 01/14/94  8:25a
Subj: Re: Adult disc for trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mr. Homie to Randy Neuner <=-
 RN> I have Physical Therapy for trade for another adult cd disc.  THis disc
 RN> has gifs and short motion clips on it.

Hey Homie (I like this name), sorry but that disc is traded.

Randy


... "But once you are real, you can't become unreal again."
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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 10181
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 01/14/94  9:17a
Subj: Re: Bodacious Beauties -                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

David, are you finished with the BB disc yet and are you still going to
send me one as you said?

Thanks
Randy Neuner


... "Hi, my Goldfish looks just like yours!"
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From: JEFF DAHMER                            Number: 10182
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94 12:14a
Subj: Trade?                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have an Adult CDROM disk called "Pork-Ware 2". Its over 600 Megs of
.Gif's, .Fli's ans Grasp's (.GL). I'm looking for a new version of Night
Owl, or Night Owl type CDROM, but be newer, with '93 and or '94 file
dates.[DWåâW$9$9 œ/(Fido) CD ROM for Sale   



























































































	C:\15.TXT                                
Contact me via Net, or Call The WarZone
BBS at 805-498-0
Mark Ross aka Jeffrey Dahmer, Sysop, The WarZone BBS.

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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 10183
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/09/94 11:42p
Subj: Mitsumi Internal  CD                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mitsumi single speed internal model. In the the box with all docs and
controller. Perfect.

$150 plus shipping, COD is $5.

Ron
813-978-0527


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From: KEVIN DOUGLAS                          Number: 10184
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94  7:23p
Subj: Flame XXX Adult CD!  Hot!!! New!!!      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Flame adult CD shipping in volume! Five hours to see it all (once)!
 
Flame highlights:

** over 3000 'straight' adult explicit 'fantasy' GIF files,  
   brightness/contrast adjusted for VGA monitor display
** pure images without distracting BBS ads, logos or duplications 
** files with similar image content are placed in 19 named directories 
** BBS-ready FILES.BBS (name,size,date,resolution/color depth) listings for
   each image category
** no minors, violence, animals or text files
** NOMSSI and SVGA viewers run straight off the CD!
** type NV to start the slideshow-easy NOMSSI viewer 
** type SVGA to start the SVGA viewer
 
Some samples of the 19 areas on disk include>
 
Directory       Megs    Images
Backdoor        42      224 
Bigbras         24      127
Groups          25      147
Females only    40      231  
Oral            85      496
Toys            27      177 
Transsex        8       61

Flame is $39.00 plus shipping from Silicon Software.  We take AMEX, Visa, MC ,
prepaid personal check and COD/cash orders. Reseller volume orders are also
handled.  Call us 24hrs at 804-979-2035, FAX 804-979-4319, BBS 804-979-2487.
Also you can request a free catalog of all of our CD-ROM titles (astronomy to
zoology) 
 
Thanks,
Kevin Douglas



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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 10185
  To: KENNETH ROACH                            Date: 01/11/94  2:03p
Subj: RE: Re: JFK CDRom                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I purchased JFK Assassination: A Visual Investigation from PC Zone for $40.



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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 10186
  To: MIKE WALKER                              Date: 01/12/94 11:08a
Subj: Re: Phonebook Cd                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Tiger Software, 1-800-888-4437 advertizes the PhoneDisc Reverse for $189. This
is the 4th Qtr, 1993 disk. I have this title but purchased it from a local
source. Hope this helps



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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 10187
  To: ALAN EVANS                               Date: 01/13/94 12:14a
Subj: User's Choice Windows CD                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AE>             ***** New Release From CMS *****
AE>
AE>          !!!!! THE PERFECT CHRISTMAS GIFT !!!!!

You're either a little late or a LOT early!


 * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * This country was founded by religious nuts with guns!


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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 10188
  To: GREG COBB                                Date: 01/13/94 12:15a
Subj: Western Digital 420MB IDE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GC>* Check out what Joe Landrith was going off to All about *
GC>
GC>>          Western Digital 425MB IDE
GC>>
GC>>      425MB, 12ms, 128k Cache, 3.5", HH
GC>>
GC>>  LOW PRICE >>   *** $345 ***   << LOW PRICE

GC>>  1-800-471-3282

GC>
GC>Dude, does this use a CD?  If not, you hit the wrong echo.

Pretty good price though!!


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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 10189
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94 12:21a
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ENHANCED Battle Chess.... $25

Sherlock Holmes, Consulting Detective... $25

GIGA Games.... $15

San Diego Zoo: The Animals... $25

Our Solar System... $25

All for $105

Ron
813-978-0527

    WinQwk 2.0 a#435


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From: STEVE KENNEDY                          Number: 10190
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94  3:09p
Subj: 3DO?                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Maybe this is off-topic, I'm so confused I can't tell <g>...has anybody been
keeping up with the 3DO machine developments?   I gather it is a console type
game machine that hooks up to the TV (like Sega/Nintendo), has a CDROM drive
and 16-bit stereo/audio.  List is about $700, software available includes more
computer-type stuff than Nintendo-type, e.g. "Super Wing Commander" is nearly
ready (...I know...).  I have ordered "CPU Bach" from Microprose, composes
music in the Baroque style, and adds graphics to match the "mood"...I'll have
to beg, steal or borrow a machine, I guess...<g>.  Question: I read a rumor
that the CD-ROM connection to a PC is "budgeted for development"...any truth? 
Any other comments?

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From: CHRIS CONKLIN                          Number: 10191
  To: ROBERT BRIGGS                            Date: 01/13/94  5:31p
Subj: Seedy rom 6-pack                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry

All sold out....    Thanks for the reply however.....

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From: CHRIS CONKLIN                          Number: 10192
  To: ROBERT BRIGGS                            Date: 01/13/94  5:36p
Subj: One 6-Pack Left!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Robert,

    One of the customers who had reserved a copy was unable to purchase it at
the last minute and leaves me with one copy.

   It's your for $99.00  including shipping in the U.S.

Give me a call if you want it.

I'll send it COD if you like for an additional $4.00 or you can prepay with
check or MO.   

Sorry as of this time, I am not set up for credit cards.  Hopefully real soon!

TTYL

915-944-7187   Evenings are the best!


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From: DARREN JAGGERS                         Number: 10193
  To: JEAN CASH                                Date: 01/13/94 10:14p
Subj: Re: cd-rom wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am sorry I live in Tulsa. How much are wanting for the cd drive?

... This copy of GEdit has been unregistered for 46 days.
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From: KEVIN DOUGLAS                          Number: 10194
  To: JESSE SCHMELZER                          Date: 01/12/94 11:05a
Subj: Re: Flame? Anybody seen it??            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message dated 09 Jan 94  21:03:18, Jesse Schmelzer wrote:

 KD> Flame is shipping in volume from us and other distributors around the
 KD> country.

 JS> How much for The Flame cd??

The Flame CD is $ 39.00 + Shipping.

You can contact us at 804-979-2035.  We take MC/VISA, AMEX, COD.

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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 10195
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94  3:54p
Subj: OEM                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can someone please tell me what the !@#$% *OEM* means!!!>..
                Thanx,in advance.....ChIP SLATE

... All I need is a Wave and a board to surf it on.
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From: RICK SHELTON                           Number: 10196
  To: KEITH LOONEY                             Date: 01/14/94  3:57p
Subj: Busty Babes Vol 1 For Sale!             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Keith!

I will hang on to it a little longer and see what it brings.
Cya
Rick

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From: RICK SHELTON                           Number: 10197
  To: DAVID V. DILLARD III                     Date: 01/14/94  3:58p
Subj: Busty Babes Vol 1 For Sale!             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello David!

Monday January 10 1994 07:08, David V. Dillard III wrote to Rick Shelton:

 DVDI> Is there a way to outwardly tell the collector's edition from any
 DVDI> "normal" Busty Babes Volume 1?  My disc is red over the top third with
 DVDI> "BB" and "Volume #1" in silver within the red.

 DVDI> Cheers.....

 DVDI> .....Dave

Yes I think so, If it has the Bam-Bam Ltd on the left it is the one. Somebody
correct me if I am wrong.
Rick

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From: RICK SHELTON                           Number: 10198
  To: BOB DAMATO                               Date: 01/14/94  4:00p
Subj: BUSTY BABES VOL 1 FOR SALE!             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Bob!

Monday January 10 1994 11:10, Bob Damato wrote to Rick Shelton:

 BD> No kidding! how come it is so expensive? whats on it that makes it that
 BD> much!!???

I think the Traci Lords photos when she was under 18 is the main reason.
Cya
Rick

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From: RICK SHELTON                           Number: 10199
  To: CHIP SLATE                               Date: 01/14/94  4:02p
Subj: Busty Babes Vol 1 For Sale!             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Chip!

Wednesday January 12 1994 21:53, Chip Slate wrote to Rick Shelton:

 CS> I'll do better than that!!!! $35.00 shipped...
 CS>                         C-Ya,Chip Slate


It is worth more than that.
Cya

Rick

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From: RICK SHELTON                           Number: 10200
  To: CHIP SLATE                               Date: 01/14/94  4:03p
Subj: OEM                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Chip!

Thursday January 13 1994 15:54, Chip Slate wrote to All:

 CS> Can someone please tell me what the !@#$% *OEM* means!!!>..
 CS>                 Thanx,in advance.....ChIP SLATE

Original Equipment Manufacturer.
Cya
Rick

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From: JIM KRUSZYNSKI                         Number: 10201
  To: DANNY BRIGANCE                           Date: 01/14/94 11:42p
Subj: CDROM's                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Danny, I'll take the Bible Library. Leave Info on how to get in touch with
you.

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 10202
  To: BOB DAMATO                               Date: 01/14/94  7:42a
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Consider what on the way?  I have forgotten what we were speaking of.
 
Scott

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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 10203
  To: JERRY ZELLER                             Date: 01/15/94 12:10a
Subj: cdroms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> Eric - offer $13 shipped for the gutenberg cd.  Jerry

    Sorry, that would put my net at about 1/2 of my cost...
    $17+shipping.

Eric


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From: KIRK REEVES                            Number: 10204
  To: BRAD WARTMAN                             Date: 01/14/94  9:37p
Subj: Adult Cd-rom discs                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GM>BW>2 adult CD-ROM disks for sale:
GM>
GM>BW>        General Appeal & Nudes
GM>BW>        Perversia Galore

How much are you looking for these disks.  Also, noticed from tagline, you live
in portland.  Why not give me a call and we can talk.  My number is 222-1428

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From: ROD WILEY                              Number: 10205
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94 11:36a
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for a cd game called Mad Dog Mcrea. Does anyone out there have it
and wpould be willing to sell it?
If so reply here. And thanks in advance.

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From: CONFIG.EXE                             Number: 10206
  To: ALAN BRADSHAW                            Date: 01/14/94 10:30p
Subj: Seed Message                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CONFIG.EXE Seed Message 
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 10207
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 01/15/94  3:53a
Subj: Re: Modem madness                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 11 Jan 94 06:31am, Randy Neuner wrote to Boris Osadciw:

>>    Boris, got such great service last time here eye go again.  Do 
>>    u kary Modem Madness? If sew, how much?
>>    Is is bbs redy with file desc (name, date, size, desc)?  Using 
>>    EZROM door.

Yes we do Randy and it is bbs ready with the files.bbs format.
As for the price, we have it for $25.

Give us a call and we'll be glad to help you out again.



Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 10208
  To: CHIP SLATE                               Date: 01/15/94  3:53a
Subj: Re: Pioneer 6-disc Changer Wanted       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 12 Jan 94 10:56pm, Chip Slate wrote to All:

>>    My friend is looking for the best price possible on a 6-disk 
>>    Cd-changer. Thanx,C-Ya,Chip Slate


Don't know if these are the best prices, but here goes !!

Pioneer DRM602X - $895.
Pioneer DRM604X - $1069.
Pioneer DRM1804X - $1895.
Pioneer DRMU104X - Should have a price soon.

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy
to assist you further.



Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 10209
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  3:53a
Subj: NEW NIGHT OWL                           Refer: NONE
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            N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E

* Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous Versions
* All Zipped Files      * New Viewer     * 60% Files Released last 90 days
"Night Owl 11. "  offer's over 5,000 all new files and supports for areas
such as Windows, OS/2, Games, Fonts, Ham Radio, Lan, Business and more !
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
   Best Of The Best - Night Owl 11. + Cream Of The Crop II - $50.00

ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 10210
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  3:53a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
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**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare   - $379.00  NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $239.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DRM602X Bare    - $895.00  Pioneer DRM604X Bare  - $1069.  -SCSI
Pioneer DRM1804X 18disk - $1895.   Texel Int 245ms w/ctl - $369.00 -SCSI
Texel Ext 245ms Bare    - $469.00  Texel Int 3021 Bare   - $189.00 -SCSI
Texel Ext Complete Kit  - $569.00  Toshiba Int 3401B Bare- $379.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare  - $479.00  ( Groilers Encyc DOS v6. or 5. $49. )

ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

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From: GARY MULLETT                           Number: 10211
  To: BRAD WARTMAN                             Date: 01/14/94  4:46p
Subj: Adult Cd-rom discs                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BW>2 adult CD-ROM disks for sale:
BW>
BW>        General Appeal & Nudes
BW>        Perversia Galore

GM>Interested in any trades for another adult CD-ROM?

BW>Thanks for the offer, but I'm only looking to sell these disks, not trade.

OK -- I'll offer $ 30 shipped for Perversia Galore.  If acceptable, you
can reply via message with your address to send a check to, or give me
a call voice at (210) 658-0771 to work out the details.
   
 * OLX 2.2 * I don't do taglines.

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From: KEVIN RICH                             Number: 10212
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/15/94  6:57a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÃÄÅÄ>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories

If you can send me anything that has to do with a BBS...

Kevin Rich
po box 612
Sequatchi,Tn 37374

thanks 
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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 10213
  To: RICK AURAS                               Date: 01/15/94  6:38a
Subj: Cd rom for trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Rick - what year is the encyclopedia?  Jerry


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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 10214
  To: JEFF BLYSTONE                            Date: 01/15/94  6:40a
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jeff - interested in the civil war cd.  What year is it and is it text and
pictures or what specificially?  Jerry


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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 10215
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 01/15/94 11:01a
Subj: Lights Out                              Refer: NONE
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In a msg on <Jan 11 09:30>, HENRY PAUL of 1:152/105 writes:

MS> HP>   We have been made aware of a prominent situation presently
MS> HP> occuring


MS>Unreal, this thing is still gouing around? I saw it first in 09/92 ( of 
MS>courthe State Police Departments change to what ever location it is being
MS>circulated in). Not a word of it was true then, and after a little checking
MS>your own, you will find it to be as much BS today.Michael Sells

 HP> Where's your proof that it is false? 
Are you serious?.....You pass along a false rumor and then have the nerve to
ask someone to prove that is NOT true! My god, you are out of it! Son, to post
every police log from every city in this country for the last 2 years just to
prove that an incident is NOT there would be assine. No Sir, you post the proof
that it did happen. Back up your false statements!!!

Hmmmm? Tell me more. I 
 HP> believe it,

And you must also believe in Santa, The Tooth Fairy, The Easter Bunny. None of
which can be proved that they don't exist, so it must be true!!!! 

 HP> and I'm not going to take the chance of it possibly being true.

While you are at it, leave out some cookies and hot cocoa for the old man, I
hear he likes it.

 HP> Maybe you ought to research it huh?

Yes, I think you should.
 
The Sky is falling!!!!!!!!! The sky is falling!!!!!!!!!!!


Michael Sells

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From: GENE GEIGER                            Number: 10216
  To: RICK SHELTON                             Date: 01/15/94  8:29a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol 1 For               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS> RL> Hi Rick, I'll give you $ 30.00 for it shipped.

CS>I'll do better than that!!!! $35.00 shipped...

And yet better. $40.00 shipped if it's in mint condition.  -=Gene=-
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Farfignewton - a long way till the next cookie..


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From: GENE GEIGER                            Number: 10217
  To: RICK SHELTON                             Date: 01/15/94  8:29a
Subj: Busty babes vol 1 for sal               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RB>RS>I still have the Busty Babes v1 #1 for sale. This is a collectors item,
  >RS>make me an offer.

RB>I'll go $5 better than the last offer I saw made for it:  $30 shipped.

I'm offering $40.00 shipped if it's in mint condition.  -=Gene=-
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 10218
  To: BARRY FOX                                Date: 01/15/94  6:22p
Subj: Strike Commander CD                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BF> Looking for a good price on Origin's Strike 
 BF> Commander on CD-ROM.  I have seen it retail for 
 BF> $69.95 at the local Electronics Boutique, but 
 BF> figure the CD-ROM dealers here can beat that 
 BF> price.  Please reply here or by netmail.
 
That's not really too bad of a price.  It retail lists for $89.95.  We would
have to charge you $62.95.  By the time you pay shipping, it would be about as
cheap to get it from Electronics Boutique.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 10219
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 01/15/94  6:28p
Subj: Random House Dictionary                 Refer: NONE
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 AG> The lowest price on this item is from Price/Costco (Price Club and
 AG> Costco have merged).
 
Wrong.  Alan Evans has them on closeout for about $30 <g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 10220
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  6:36p
Subj: NEW SHAREWARE CD PreOrders              Refer: NONE
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PCJ is accepting PRE-ORDERS for the new ** TOP DRAWER SHAREWARE CD **
DUE DATE: Approximately 1/25/94  PRICE: $19.00  FILELIST:TOPDRW1A.ZIP
SYSOPS: Quickest/Easiest CDROM to setup on your BBS you'll ever find.
 * File stats for 1991 thru 1994 *       * Dupes with other CDROMs *
       Files   %    Apx  'K'    %            Big SKY     -   .01%
       =====  ===== ========  =====          Nightowl 10 - 12.41%
1994:    125   3.0%   33,475   5.6%          Nightowl 11 -  6.44%
1993:  3,983  96.5%  553,038  93.6%          Pier 3      - 28.50%
1992:     19   0.5%    3,908   0.7%        Dealer Inquiries Welcome.
1991:      3   0.1%      442   0.1%       ORDERS : 800-547-7817 (9-6)
       ===== ====== ======== ======     INQUIRIES: 615-339-0235 (9-9)
Total: 4,128 100.0%  590.863 100.0%  BBS HST/14.4: 615-4782890/4791047

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10221
  To: JASON WAGNER                             Date: 01/13/94  4:41p
Subj: CD REVIEWS...                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I was wondering if anyone can recommend a *CHEAP* magazine or newletter that
is
>published monthly that reviews CD's...

 Compute! recently started reviewing CDs on a regular basis.


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10222
  To: RICK WICKER                              Date: 01/13/94  4:43p
Subj: AMIGA GROLIER'S ENCYCLOPE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Where might I buy the Grolier's Encyclopedia for the Amiga?

 Doesn't exist, so far as I know.

 If you find out differently, please feed me your source....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10223
  To: RAY DENALLI                              Date: 01/13/94  4:44p
Subj: FLORIDA STATUTES                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Does anyone know where I can find a copy or copies of the Florida Statutes on
>CD

 WestLaw - but they are NOT cheap!


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10224
  To: GARY GILMORE                             Date: 01/13/94  4:46p
Subj: MAC CDROM ON A PC                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Anyone have a CDROM full of Macintosh shareware that'll run on a PC-based BBS?

 I believe the Info-Mac disc best fits your requirements - Garbo would work,
but it doesn't appear to have FILES.BBS on the current release.

 $22 and $14 respectively, shipping included IF prepaid.

 Brice's Library
 5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
 Indianapolis, IN 46220

 (317) 726-1980  (Tu Th 11AM - 8PM  We Fr 11AM - 6PM)


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From: BOBBY WIENHOLT                         Number: 10225
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/13/93  9:27p
Subj: Cd Rom list 1 of 3                      Refer: NONE
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                   Elite Computer Systems, Inc.
                    1414 Banavie Terrace East
                   Bel Air, Maryland 21015-5778

            ************ CD-ROM Title List ****************

 CD-ROM Title                                          Price

Adventures of Willy Beamish                            $30
Aircraft Encyclopedia, The                             $40
American Business Phone Book                           $35
Anecdotes Vol 1, 2, or 3                               $25
Animals                                                $35

Arthur's Teacher Trouble                               $40
Audubon's Mammals                                      $35
Battle Chess                                           $30
Beauty and the Beast                                   $30
Bible Library                                          $40

Bibles & Religion                                      $25
C Users Group Library                                  $40
Chessmaster (Multi-Media)                              $30
CIA World Fact Book                                    $35
CIA World Fact Book (Multi-Media)                      $40

Clipart Goliath                                        $25
Clipart Heaven                                         $25
Complete Bookshop                                      $25
Composer Quest                                         $45
Comptons Encyclopedia (Limited Availability)           $70

Dictionaries & Language                                $25
Electronic Cookbook                                    $45
Encyclopedia MPC Ver 1                                 $60
Encyclopedia Multi-Media Ver 5                         $60
Encyclopedia of Sound                                  $25

Family Doctor                                          $35
Font Master                                            $20
Font Master Two                                        $30
Fonts for the Professional                             $35
Game Arena                                             $20

Game Master                                            $30
Game Pack II                                           $40
GIFs Galore                                            $30
Great Cities Volume 1                                  $40
Great Cities Volume 2                                  $40

Reply here to order.

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From: BOBBY WIENHOLT                         Number: 10226
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/13/93  9:28p
Subj: Cd Rom list 2 of 3                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   Elite Computer Systems, Inc.
                    1414 Banavie Terrace East
                   Bel Air, Maryland 21015-5778

         *********** CD-ROM Title List Cont'd ***********

 CD-ROM Title                                          Price

Ham Radio                                              $25
Holy Bible, The                                        $30
Interactive Story Time 1                               $30
Interactive Story Time 2                               $30
International Business and Economic Atlas              $30

J Schumacher's New Prague Cookbook                     $40
Jones In the Fast Lane                                 $30
KGB World Fact Book                                    $40
Kings Quest V                                          $30
KlotSki                                                $35

Kodak Photo CD Access Software                         $30
Languages of the World                                 $50
Loom                                                   $30
MacMillan Dictionary for Children                      $40
Magazine Rack                                          $40

Mavis Bacon Teaches Typing                             $35
MIDI Music Shop                                        $35
Mixed-Up Mother Goose                                  $30
Monkey Island                                          $40
Mother of all Clip-Art                                 $25

MPC Wizard                                             $30
National Geographic Mammals                            $40
National Parks                                         $35
Our Solar System                                       $25
PC SIG Version 11                                      $30

PC SIG Version 12                                      $35
PC SIG World of Games                                  $25
PC SIG Home & Business Collection                      $20
PC SIG World of Windows                                $25
Playing With Languages French                          $45

  "      "      "      German                          $45
  "      "      "      English                         $45
  "      "      "      Japanese                        $45
  "      "      "      Spanish                         $45
Programmer's ROM                                       $40

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From: BOBBY WIENHOLT                         Number: 10227
  To: ALL                                      Date: 10/13/93  9:29p
Subj: Cd Rom list 3 of 3                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   Elite Computer Systems, Inc.
                    1414 Banavie Terrace East
                   Bel Air, Maryland 21015-5778

            ********* CD-ROM Titles Cont'd ***********

 CD-ROM Title                                          Price

Publish-It                                             $35
Q & A                                                  $60
RBBS In A Box Version 3.1                              $40
Roger Ebert Movie Companion                            $40
Shareware Heaven                                       $25

Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective                   $30
Sherlock Holmes                                        $30
So Much Shareware 2                                    $25
So Much Shareware 3                                    $35
Space Quest IV                                         $30

Stellar 7                                              $30
U.S. Atlas (Multi-Media)                               $30
U.S. Atlas with Auto Map                               $35
U.S./World Atlas                                       $32
Where is Carmen San Diego                              $40

Wing Commander/Ultima VI                               $35
World Atlas (Multi-Media)                              $30
Dinosaurs                                              $40
Gameware Collection                                    $35
Guiness Disc of Records 1993                           $40

To Order, Reply Here.

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From: JOHN A. ETLING                         Number: 10228
  To: JAMES WALLACE                            Date: 11/06/93  5:35a
Subj: NEC-CD-ROM                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JW>NEC Multi-Spin For SALE!!!!
JW>External SCSI Model 38
JW>Less than 3 weeks old
JW>Jim Wallace    (804) 589-6394

What is the price?

 € OLX 2.1 TD € Docs? Why would I want to look at the Docs. Nurses are be
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From: RICK BAUER                             Number: 10229
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/01/93  2:15a
Subj: Busty Babes vol II                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Busty Babes vol II

Sorry forgot to actually say that the new source for my disks was
The Lions Den International.. The publisher of Busty Babes.
They were most helpful and I got my purchase on-time. This disk 
(vol II) does not contain any real XXX poses execpt for one dir.
The overall quality is superb. I also have been looking for a 
good "R" rated disk and this fit the bill. I look forward to the
new disks that they have coming up in 1994. 

Rick

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From: RICK BAUER                             Number: 10230
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/01/93  2:23a
Subj: Adult cd's to Trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following cd's i would like to trade for
other cd's 

1. FAO #3 adult cd jam packed disk many topics
2. FAO Gold 1 the best of the FAO adult series on one disk.

If you have adult cd's you would like to trade let me know.

Rick

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From: PAUL DEEMER                            Number: 10231
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/01/93 12:39a
Subj: sale                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

(Package 1)

 Texel (240ms 335 kb a sec - Double Speed internal SCSI CD Rom drive), which
exceeds MPC-2 Specifications. SCSI Trantor Interface which will run up to
7 SCSI devices. Been used less than 3 hours, is now back in the box. These
items cost ($450.45)

 Sound Blaster 16 with Altec Lansing speakers and amplifier. Is still in
Shrink wrap and has not been opened. These Items cost ($214.20)

 National Parks from Multicom Publishing. Item Cost ($59.00)
Rebel Assault from Lucas Arts. Item Cost ($45.00)

 All of the Above was purchased last week from Computability in Computer
Shopper magazine. Total cost was ($768.65) will sell all for ($675.00)
If you hurry I will include Commanche Maximus overkill, Lotus Organizer,
and Freelance Graphics with this particular package. Its Pratically Brand
new and nothing wrong with it. See below for the reason I am selling it.

 (Package 2)

 Seagate 452 Meg 10ms Hard drive, 2 months old, Its been used as a back
up drive only, and has been used very little. Perfect condition with no
errors detected with Norton Disk Doctor ver 6.0. (Sell for $325.00)

 There is nothing wrong with any of this equipment, I just will be faced
with a 25 percent restocking fee if I return it. I need the money to
replace 2 Vcrs, and a Tuner which have been in need of replacing for some
time but I have been putting it off, the second vcr went out of commission
the day after I got this package. Since I can't have both I would rather
get the Entertainment system back online. If you interested or have a
REASONABLE BEST OFFER, call me at 803-543-3844 in the evenings.


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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 10232
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/01/93  1:24p
Subj: Cd Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can you give me some prices on those close out models?

CDrom drives....

thakns
Scott raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 10233
  To: PAT DELIN                                Date: 12/01/93  1:25p
Subj: Cd Rom for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Will trade you a copy of WordPerfect 5.2 for Windows for that cdrom
drive.

Please reply.

Thanks
Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 10234
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 12/01/93  1:27p
Subj: CD's 4-Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CAn you send me a list of all your shareware and adult titles.

Thanks
Netmail: 1:2612/104

Scott Raley
Box 76
ridge, Md 20680-0076
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 10235
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/01/93  1:29p
Subj: CD-ROM Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in these for my bbs, but all I can offer right now
is a trade for WordPerfect 5.2 for Windows and pay for shipping.
Wanna trade?

Please reply.
Thanks
Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 10236
  To: ERIC HO                                  Date: 12/01/93  1:33p
Subj: Distributor wanted                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in becoming a reseller of your cds.  Please send me
information netmail to: 1:2612/104

thanks
Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 10237
  To: BILL JONES                               Date: 12/01/93  1:35p
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Are you interested in trading for a copy of WordPerfect 5.2 for
Windows?

Please reply.

Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 10238
  To: BRYAN COTTER                             Date: 12/01/93  1:36p
Subj: JPEG CD's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have an adult cd, amatuer models that has 24 bit TIFF and GIF on
it.

Scott Raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 10239
  To: PAT DELIN                                Date: 12/01/93  1:36p
Subj: Magnavox CDD-461                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How much for the cdrom?

Interested in trading?

Thanks
Scott raley
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 10240
  To: ALAN ORNDORFF                            Date: 12/01/93  1:38p
Subj: Os/2 2.1                                Refer: NONE
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os/2 2.1 cdrom    $50

Scott Raley
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 10241
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/02/93  4:07p
Subj: Tree Dim. CD Storage?                   Refer: NONE
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        I have a CD storage unit from a company called Tree Dimensions.
        It is a 2-shelf unit for minimum-height storage of 2 rows of
        CDs. The company makes two 2-shelf units... the one I'm interested
        in is the shorter of the two. I'd like to purchase another of
        these to match the one we have. Anyone sell them? If so, please
        provide details here, or call 913-888-5201 ext.257 (M-F 8a-4p
        Central, or leave voice mail).

        For reference, the unit is made out of wood, with 3 "holding"
        rails for each "shelf", and a dividing block to separate the
        CDs on each level.

- Heather
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10242
  To: PAUL LAUGHLIN                            Date: 12/03/93  1:29a
Subj: BUY PIER3 GET A CD FREE!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PL>Hey Mike....  What's up?   I am interested in you're Pier 3/ Free CD...  If
y
PL>can ship this COD I will want to oredr it.  If not please respond and I'll
se
PL>what I can do. Please respond at 1:116/110.   Thank You.   Paul Laughlin

Paul,

Give me a call and I'm sure we can get you fixed up!

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10243
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93  1:29a
Subj: DECEMBER CD PRICE$ 1/3                  Refer: NONE
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 9-Digit Zip Code Guide (New!).32.00    Mega Clipart..................27.00
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 C User's Group Library........29.00    Our Solar System..............13.00
 Canadian Shareware............19.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....27.00
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 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phoenix 4.0...................19.00
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 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00    Pinacotheca Multimedia........24.00
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10244
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93  1:29a
Subj: DECEMBER CD PRICE$ 2/3                  Refer: NONE
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 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....64.00    Profiles of Colleges..........29.50
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....64.00    Project Gutenberg (New!)......22.00
 Computer Reference Library....13.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak.......... 96.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....34.50    ProPhone 1993 Business........29.00
 Cookbook Heaven...............23.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 CorelDraw 3.0.................79.00    Publish-It 2.0................25.00
 Cybergenic Ranger.............19.50    Publisher's Dream Disc........35.00
 Dagger of Amon Ra.............32.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Publisher's Powerhouse (New!).29.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Q&A 4.0.......................39.00
 Dare, Bluff, or Die (New!)....29.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Day of the Tentacle...........44.50    Reader's Library..............20.50
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Reel Clips....................25.00
 Desert Storm..................33.50    Reference Library ............24.50
 Desktop Bookshop..............22.50    Return to Zork (New!).........50.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...37.00
 Dictionary of Living World....32.50    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............33.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
 Dinosaurs!....................33.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
 Dr. Games.....................20.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Dr. Music.....................20.00    Shareware 1993 vol 2 (New!)...20.00
 Dr. Shareware.................20.00    Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......49.00
 Dr. Windows...................20.00    Shareware Online 1............25.00
 DTPro.........................26.50    Shareware Online 2............29.00
 Dune (New!)...................39.00    Shareware Overload............13.00
 Ecoquest......................27.50    Shareware Studio 1............19.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Studio 2............23.00
 Electronic Cookbook...........29.00    Shareware Studio 3............25.00
 Electronic Home Library.......29.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Electronic Library of Art.....39.50    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.00
 Empire Clipart................19.50    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...49.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...49.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.00    Sights & Sounds...............22.50
 European Monarchs.............35.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Family Doctor.................26.00    Sleeping Beauty (New!)........25.00
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......26.50    So Much Screenware............27.50
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 Fractunes (New!)..............30.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....19.00
 Fresh Arte....................34.00    Software Vault Gold (New!)....25.00
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 Game Arena....................13.00    Sound Effects Library.........19.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Game Pack 2...................25.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Soundware Collection..........24.00
 Games Collection (New!).......26.00    SoundWAV......................25.00
 Gameware Collection...........24.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.00    Space & Astronomy (New!)......27.00
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 GIF Galaxy (New!).............24.00    Space Quest IV................19.00
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10245
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/03/93  1:29a
Subj: DECEMBER CD PRICE$ 3/3                  Refer: NONE
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 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Stellar 7.....................19.50
 Grammy Awards.................36.00    Straight from Heaven (New!)...19.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Street Atlas USA v2...........94.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    STW Illustrated Encyclopedia..34.00
 Great Wonders of the World....42.00    STW Multimedia Encyclopedia...44.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency 6.0 (New!).45.00    STW MPC Encyclopedia..........44.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...23.00    Super Games For Windows.......10.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 93...29.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........35.50
 Hacker Chronicles.............25.00    Tech Arsenal (New!)...........21.50
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Technotools...................13.00
 Hamware 1993..................23.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..19.00
 Health & Medical Directory....27.50    Terrorist Group Profiles......35.00
 Hobbes OS/2 10/93.............16.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Hollywood the Bizarre (New!)..43.50    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Timetable of Business/Politic.26.00
 Home Designer (New!)..........29.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Home/Business Legal Guide.....13.00    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Horror & Sci-Fi Films (New!)..43.50    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.00
 House of Games................18.50    Total Baseball 1992...........24.00
 Images of NASA (New!).........25.00    Total Baseball 1993 (New!)....28.00
 Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00    Total Heart by Mayo Clinic....49.00
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 Interactive Story Time 3......29.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................23.00
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 Int'l Graphics Library........27.50    U.S. History..................29.00
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....29.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........39.00    U.S. Wars: Civil War..........34.00
 Jets & Props..................28.50    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 Jewel Cases....................1.00    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 Jokes & Pranks................13.00    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............34.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Wars: WWII...............34.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............39.00    USA Today: The 90's (New!)....36.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    VGA Spectrum 1................13.00
 King's Quest V................20.00    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 King's Quest VI (Retail Box)..39.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    Wildcat Gold..................20.50
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........19.00    Win Platinum..................24.00
 La Colleccion (Spanish S/W)...22.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Lan Master....................25.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 Languages of the World........37.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Learning Adventure............13.00    Windows Collection (New!).....26.00
 Learning Heaven (New!)........19.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Library of the Future #1......39.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Libris Britannia..............34.00    World Atlas MPC...............23.00
 Linux (New!)..................29.00    World Fact Book M/M...........23.00
 Loom..........................19.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...35.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mac Shareware.................19.00    World Traveler................13.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........29.00    World View....................24.00
 Macromind Action..............35.00    World Vision 3-Pak............39.00
 Mad Dog McCree (New!).........39.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    X11R5/GNU.....................24.00

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 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
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From: CRAIG CHLADNY                          Number: 10246
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 12/02/93 11:42p
Subj: Re: CDROM Pricing-Walnut Crk            Refer: NONE
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Can you please send me a CD-ROM/CD catalog and/or price-list?

Craig Chladny
907 Devonshire Rd.
Washington, IL 61571-132607

 FidoNET: Craig Chladny 1:232/13.0  C-Link: Craig Chladny 911:6020/0.0
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InterNET: Mr.King@Barts-Tale.ecore.fnet.org

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From: DON ROBINSON                           Number: 10247
  To: MIKE BARROW                              Date: 12/02/93 10:42p
Subj: Re: Microsoft encarta                   Refer: NONE
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If this works with DOS, I'll offer $50+shipping.

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From: PATRICK SHEN                           Number: 10248
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/02/93  6:00p
Subj: Cd-rom for sale                         Refer: NONE
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I have following CD-ROMs for sale.  All CD-ROMs are in New Condition. Please
add $3 for UPS or Priority Mail shipping.

7th Guest by Virgin Games (2 CD set).  Smooth full motion video.  Best CD ever
made.                                    --------------  $40.00

Software Toolworks CD Game Pack II.  10 games on one CD.  Each has its own
documents.                             --------------------  $22.00

LucasArts Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe.  Very good World War II Air Combat
Simulation game.  I'll include a mission/utilities disk as a free bonus.       
                              -------------------  $20.00

Defender of the Crown - A tale of jousting heroes and damsels in distess by
Cinemaware.  A Robin Hood game.  Requires a Hitachi CD-ROM drive with audio
output.                                ------------------  $17.00

Deathstar Arcade Battles.  The most exciting arcade action and other games of
all time.                           ------------------  $15.00

SelectWare System.  The Ultimate Software Demo System.   ------   $9.00

Amateur Models Adult CD.                       ----------------  $33.00

If you are interested, please reply here to contact me at E-mail address below.

Patrick Shen
CompuServe: 72072,3612
Internet: pshen@simenv.com

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From: GREG GILETTO                           Number: 10249
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/08/93  8:42p
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE                            Refer: NONE
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Mitsumi (LU005 350ms 150kbs 32k cache) CD-ROM drive 
with SB PRO 16 bit sound card for sale:  $250.00 
 
Greg 
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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 10250
  To: PAUL SCHIFFERLI                          Date: 12/07/93  1:00p
Subj: Censorship                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > The latest issue of PC Magazine informs all readers that they
 > will no
 > longer accept adds of an ADULT nature with Graphics.  I note
 > that the
 > Editor is a woman.  You would think that everyone would have
 > learned by
 > now that censoring doesn't work.  They are targeting the CD-ROM
 > collections in particular.

What a crock of dung! Must be one of those feminists who think a picture of a
naked woman degrades the whole female sex. Oh well, it's her advertising
dollars she will be losing...not to mention the subscriptions when those of us
who dislike this type of "political correctness" will cancel their
subscriptions....Now, let me find that phone number.

Chris

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 10251
  To: DANNY BRIGANCE                           Date: 12/08/93 10:17p
Subj: Bible CD's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
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Hello Danny!

Tuesday December 07 1993, Danny Brigance writes to Pat Rickerson:

 DB> Hello Pat!

 DB> Sunday December 05 1993, Pat Rickerson writes to All:

 PR>> Hello All!

 PR>> Have a Minister here that is looking for any Cd's, do you have any he
 PR>> may be interested in? If you do please reply, thanks.

 DB> I have Bible's and Religion CD, I will part with for $10.00 and you pay
 DB> shipping.  It's only about 2 months old.  Reply here or netmail me at
 DB> 1:130/30.

Will take it please send address
Pat

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From: DANNY TSENG                            Number: 10252
  To: G. LARRY WEBB                            Date: 12/07/93 10:55p
Subj: MICROSOFT BOOKSHELF                     Refer: NONE
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 GLw> I have a copy of the 1992 BookShelf; it is the one 
 GLw> included with soundblaster multimedia upgrade kits.... 
 GLw> I'm asking $25 plus $2.90 shipping if you prepay with 
        Hi, I have gotten one. Sorry...

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From: MATT MAHONEY                           Number: 10253
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/08/93  4:45p
Subj: CDROMS and sound.                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone know if you need a Soundblaster Pro or 16 to play music on a CDROM
or can you plug some computer speakers in to the headphone jack of the CDROM?
Thank you.



     -Matt



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From: DAN GUILLORY                           Number: 10254
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/08/93 10:17p
Subj: SPECIAL                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can you give me a price on the following

Cream Of The Crop II
Busty Babes II

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From: CHRIS CONKLIN                          Number: 10255
  To: JIM WRIGHT                               Date: 12/08/93  7:32p
Subj: RE: Adult Super Deal!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Jim,

   I'm the one offering this special Adult 6 CD pack deal for only $99.00
including shipping anywhere in the U.S.

   Let me know if you are interested in obtaining a set.  I currently have five
left.

   Give me a call.  I accept MO or will ship COD for an extra $3.00.

You can post if you like, however a quick phone call will set one aside for
your with you name on it while your money order is on the way etc.

TTYL

C-3 Production Systems
PO Box 60144
San Angelo, Tx
      76906

915-944-7187   (Evenings Are best!)

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From: CHRIS CONKLIN                          Number: 10256
  To: MICHAEL HAIP                             Date: 12/08/93  7:38p
Subj: XXX Rated CD Wanted                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Michael

    I am posting this response with the understanding that you are at least 21
years of age.  If not, please don't respond back.....

   C-3 Production Systems 
    PO Box 60144
    San Angelo, Tx
         76906
915-944-7187   (evenings are best)

We are clearing out of all of your adult titles and will not carry them in our
active inventory any longer (personal reasons).  I have the following still
available while they last:
  Adult Reference Library    $25.00
  Busty Babes Vol I or II    $29.00 ea
  Southern Beauties          $35.00
  Digital Dreams             $25.00
  Seedy Rom Six Pack         $99.00 (6 cd set all catagories!)
      Will sell Seedy Rom disc 1-6 at $19.00 ea

Please add shipping to the above prices except for the six pack.

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From: PETE BOUDREAU                          Number: 10257
  To: JEFF HUBERT                              Date: 12/08/93  6:55p
Subj: Lower Prices!!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jeff,
  I'll offer $22.00 shipped for Front Page Sports Football.
                Pete

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From: PETE BOUDREAU                          Number: 10258
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/08/93  7:02p
Subj: Dracula's revenge                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Who has the best price for Dracula's Revenge or Return to Zork?
Best price makes the sale!

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 10259
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/08/93  4:47a
Subj: Amateur Models for trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I  have the new Amateur Models for trade for another adult cd-rom title.
Perfect condition, only viewed once.

 * OLX 2.1 TD * This tagline is umop apisdn


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 10260
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 12/08/93  4:50a
Subj: Adult cd's to Trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the new Amateur Models for sale or trade if interested.
Randy


 * OLX 2.1 TD * hAS ANYONE SEEN MY cAPSLOCK KEY?


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10261
  To: MIKE HILL                                Date: 12/08/93 11:23a
Subj: CD STORAGE BOXES WANT                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>     Most Record Exchanges or other used CD resale stores carry the plastic
>   boxes that you're looking for. The can normally be had for around $1 a
>   piece. However, they don't usually come with the black plastic insert that
>   holds the CD in place.

 That is NOT the case - every jewel case I have seen sold by such sources DID
include the insert. And $1 with NO INSERT is a blatant ripoff.


 * SLMR 2.1a * A dollar earned is a penny net takehome - after Clinton.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10262
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 12/08/93 12:26p
Subj: CENSORSHIP                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>We at HRB Computer Services applaud PC Mag's actions!

 Yet another group caves in to the censors - one that HAS the money to fund a
legal defence if they ever got harrassed....

 8-<

>If you look
>at the attitude of a number of agencies, not only magazine, but others -- not
>just religious, there's a great movement opposed to the porn stuff.

 Censorship is NO MORE than a different form of slavery - and is EQUALLY evil,
in that a censor would attempt to enslave your MIND, not just your body.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Catastrophe (n): Award to the Cat with the nicest buns.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10263
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/08/93 12:28p
Subj: WING COMMANDER DELUXE / W               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>This Cd I think is called Wing Commander 2 Deluxe with Secret Missions.

 $54, shipping included IF prepaid.

 Brice's Library
 5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
 Indianapolis, IN 46220

 (317) 726-1980  (Tu Th 11AM - 8PM  We Fr 11AM - 6PM  EST)


 * SLMR 2.1a * The DragonKill war is named for what the Dragons DID....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10264
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 12/08/93 12:31p
Subj: CENSORSHIP                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Censorship occurs when something is prohibited by law, not when a publication,
>a PRIVATE enterprise, chooses not to carry certain ads.

 Censorship is EQUALLY possible to a private group - it is WORSE when a
governmental organization does it as THAT form of censorship generally leaves
no recourse.

 In the PC Mag case, governmental PRESSURE appears to have been applied, and
therefore it DEFINITELY qualifies as censorship - even by YOUR limited
definition.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Free the Heinz 57!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10265
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/08/93  1:00p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1 OF 4                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Brice's Library
 CD-ROM and Book Price List 2 December 1993

 5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
 Indianapolis, IN 46220
 Tue Thu 11am - 8pm  Wed Fri 11am - 6pm  EST
 (317) 726-1980 voice  (317) 726-1387 BBS (24 hour, 1200/2400/v.32 supported)

 FidoNet 1:231/190   InterNet sysop@f190.n231.z1.fidonet.org
 All prices are in U.S. Dollars and include any applicable Sales Tax.
 U.S. Shipping included if prepaid (please allow 7 days for check to clear).
 Sales to out-of-U.S. addresses require payment in U.S. funds.
 We cannot accept Credit Card payment at this time.

 1001 Utilities                    10   Macromind Clipmedia v.1: Busines 339
 1992 CD-ROM Collection w/CIA      63   Mad Dog McCree                    36
 20'th Century Almanac (5 disc)    74   Made in the USA                   28
 20'th Century People (OEM)        25   Madness of Roland (Mac)           50
 20'th Century Sports (OEM)        25   Magazine Rack                     19
 20'th Century Video Almanac (OEM) 25   Magic Flute (Mac)                 55
 386 BSD Unix                      20   Majestic Places                   36
 501 Sound Waves                   19   Mammals (Nat. Geographic)         24
 600 Days to Cocos Island (Mac)    59   Man Enough                        65
 7'th Guest                        50   Manhole                           35
 7'th Guest (OEM)                  36   Mantis Experimental Fighter       60
 9 Digit Zip Codes                 32   Mantis Experimental Fighter (OEM) 16
 9000 Sounds                       25   Map Expert w/ Street Atlas USA   263
 999+ .WAV files                   19   Maps 'n' Facts PC Globe           44
 A Christmas Carol                 26   Mario is Missing Deluxe           52
 A Christmas Carol (FTL)           53   Mario Missing w/World Atlas (OEM) 24
 A Hard Day's Night (Mac)          34   Mario Teaches Typing            Call
 A Line in the Sand                34   Masterpiece Library               36
 A Silly Noisy House (Mac)         49   Matinee Screen Saver              43
 A+ Grade Builder                  34   Mavis Beacon Teach Typing (MPC)   65
 About Cows                        25   Mavis Beacon Typing (MPC) (OEM)   20
 AD&D Dark Sun: Shattered Lands    69   Mayo Clinic (MPC)                 20
 AD&D Dungeon Hack                 45   Mayo Clinic (Mac)                 24
 AD&D Fantasy Empires              59   Mega A/V                          26
 ADA Programming                   20   Mega Movie Guide                  39
 Adobe Type on Call                81   Microsoft Beethoven: 9'th Symph.  57
 Adobe Type on Call (Windows)      83   Microsoft Bookshelf v1993        149
 Adventures                        40   Microsoft Bookshelf '93 upgrade   50
 Adventures in Heaven              15   Microsoft Bookshelf '93 (OEM)     39
 Adventures of Pinocchio (MAC)     59   Microsoft Cinemania (MPC)         57
 Adventures of Willy Beamish       54   Microsoft Dinosaurs               69
 Adventures of Willy Beamish (OEM) 17   Microsoft Encarta '94             95
 Aesop's Fables (eBook)            40   Microsoft Golf                    49
 Ageis Guardian Fleet              69   Microsoft Mozart                  69
 AGFA Intro PAC - 20 Typefaces     82   Microsoft Multimedia Viewer      349
 Air Warrier                       58   Microsoft Musical Instruments     58
 Aircraft Encyclopedia             27   Microsoft Office for Mac v3.0    599
 Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp    34   Microsoft Office for Windows     599
 All American Sports               44   Microsofr Office Pro for Windows 699
 All Music Guide                   57   Microsoft Stravisky               69
 Aloha, Hawaii!                    20   Microsoft Visual C++ Pro v1.0    399
 Altsys Virtuoso for Solaris v1.0 595   Microsoft Multimedia Word v2.0   429
 Amanda Stories                    41   Microsoft Works                  159
 Amanda Stories (Mac)              49   Microsoft Works (OEM)             39
 Amazing Universe (PC/Mac)         59   Middle East Diary                 26
 America Alive Guidisc (Mac)       87   MIDI Connection                   53
 American Business Phone Book '92  15   MIDI Music Shop for Windows       17
 American Business Phone Book '93  25   Might and Magic: World of Xeen    59
 American Heritage Ilus Ency Dict  50   Mixed Up Mother Goose             54
 American Journey 1896-1945        49   Mixed Up Mother Goose (OEM)       17
 American Vista Atlas (MPC)        30   Monarch Notes                     48
 American Vista Atlas (Mac)        60   Money, Money, Money!              29
 America's Premier Shareware       14   Monster Disk (2 discs)            35
 Americans in Space (PC/Mac)       59   Monster Media '93                 23
 Aminet                            17   Monster Media '93 #2              29
 Anecdotes v.1                     15   Mosaic Magic                      27
 Anecdotes v.2                     15   Mother Earth II                   30
 Anecdotes v.3                     15   Mother of All Clip Art            14
 Anglo-Saxons                      44   Movie Select                      55
 Animals Encyclopedia (MPC)        30   Movie Select (Mac)                55
 Animals in Motion                 40   Movies on TV and Videotape        34
 Animals of San Diego Zoo (MPC)    69   Mowgli's Brothers                 36
 Animals of San Diego Zoo (Mac)    68   Mozart Multimedia Musicbook       37
 Animals San Diego Zoo (DOS) (OEM) 19   Mozart Multimedia Musicbook (Mac) 38
 Animals San Diego Zoo (MPC) (OEM) 21   Mozart: Dissonant Quartet         49
 Animation Festival (MPC)          26   MPC Wizard                        14
 Animation Festival (MPC) (OEM)    20   Multi Bible                       59
 Annabel's Dream of Ancient Egypt  55   Multimedia Audio Collection       30
 Arctic Baron                      39   Multimedia Computor Tutor         17
 Arthur Teacher Trouble (MPC)      56   Multimedia Environments           23
 Arthur Teacher Troubl (MPC) (OEM) 22   Multimedia Handisc (Mac)          87
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble (Mac)    49   Multimedia Magic Collection       15
 ASP Advantage                     20   Murder Makes Strange Deadfellows  46
 Aster*X Base v2.1 for Sun OS     579   Murmurs of Earth (3 discs)        46
 Aster*X Power Pack for Sun OS    819   My Advanced Label Designer        54
 Astrology Source (PC/Mac)         59   The Myst (Mac)                    69
 Atlas of U.S. Presidents          26   National Parks (MPC)              20
 Audio Collection (MPC)            17   Nautilus Backpack Vol.I           44
 Audioshop (Mac)                   75   Nautilus Backpack Vol.II          44
 Audubon's Birds                   18   Nautilus Backpack Vol. III        49
 Audubon's Mammals (MPC)           18   Nautilus Best of Photography      53
 Authorware Star                   34   Nebula                            27
 Autodesk Explorer                 85   NEXTStep for Intel               649
 B17 Flying Fortress/S. Service II 40   New Basics Electronic Cookbook    58
 Baccus and Comus                  50   New Basics Electronic Cookb (OEM) 29
 Backroad Racers                   59   New Kids on the Block             50
 Baker's Dozen Game Pack Windows   16   New Kids on the Block (Mac)       50
 Barney Bear Goes to School        15   New York at it's Best             23
 Barney Bear Goes to Space         15   New Zeland Birds                  29
 Barron's Book Notes               30   Newsweek Interactive              25
 Baseball's Greatest Hits (Mac)    59   Night Before Chrismas             27
 Battle Chess (original) (OEM)     20   Night Owl Business Software       20
 Battle Chess (enhanced) (OEM)     24   Night Owl Games                   19
 Battle Chess (enhanced) (Mac)     68   Night Owl Graphics                24
 Beauty and the Beast              36   Night Owl 9                       24
 Beauty and the Beast (OEM)        17   Night Owl 10                      29
 Beethoven: The 9'th Symphony      79   North American Fax Phonebook      27
 Berlitz Thnk Tlk French (7 disc) 109   North American Indians            26
 Berlitz T & T German (7 disc)    109   NOVA (for NeXT)                   20
 Berlitz T & T Italian (7 disc)   129   Novell Unixware Personal ed.     209
 Berlitz T & T Spanish (7 disc)   129   Novell Unixware Development kit  499
 Best Business                     23   Novell Unixware Personal Util.'s 209
 Best of Microprose                24   Nutcracker                        30
 Better H&G Hlthy Cooking (PC/Mac) 57   Ocean in Motion (QT)              60
 Beyond the Wall of Stars          27   Oceans Below                      26
 Bible Lands and Stories           40   Officer's Bookcase                25
 Bible Library                     24   Oldies but Goodies                16
 Bibles and Religion               12   Orchestra (Mac)                   67
 Biblio-Tech                       20   Oregon Trail                      55
 Bicycle CD-ROM Collection         39   Original Shareware 1992           10
 Blue Force                        46   OS/2 v2.1                        179
 Book of Lists #3 (PC/Mac)         75   OS/2 v2.1 Upgrade                 99
 Book of Lists #3 (PC/Mac) (OEM)   40   Our House (Family Circus)         45
 Boris Vallejo Fantasy Art         48   Our Solar System                  12
 Brain Drain                       14   Oxford English Reference Library  94
 Bridge Deluxe w/ Omar Sharif      65   Pacific Islands                   30
 Britain at it's Best              24   Patrician                         45
 Britannica Select Software        16   PC & DOS Introductory Module      13
 Business Assistant                10   PC Game Room                      18
 Business Backgrounds              31   PC Medic                          17
 Business Backgrounds (OEM)        20   PC-SIG #12                        20
 Business CD                       29   PC-SIG #13                      Call
 Business Library v.1              46   
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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 10266
  To: MICHAEL COLLIER                          Date: 12/11/93  4:39a
Subj: Asian Ladies Warning!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Michael Collier said the following Andrew Studer :
-MC>    I really admire you for coming out and declaring your sexual -MC>
preference for all to see. That must take alot of guts. Alot more guts
-MC> than it takes to throw around ignorant insults.

But then again, "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve", was actually told
to me by a Catholic Priest... <G>  But, also, one should not judge.  So this
whole conversation should not have taken place and should not be taking place.
Moderator??? <G>

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From: AL AGEE                                Number: 10267
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/10/93 10:55p
Subj: Cd-rom recording                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   - Is your hard drive full?
   - Tired of waiting on that slow tape drive?
   - Lost under a mountain of floppies?

                   Make your own CD-ROM! Put 600+ Megabytes of your proprietary
data on a ISO 9660 standard CD for $125.  Additional copies are only $99 each.

Send 600 MB of PC data on DC-2120 QIC-40 or QIC-80 tapes (Used by Colorado
Memory Systems tape drives).  I will transfer your data to an ISO standard CD
and have it on its way back to you, usually within two days.

Perfect for a BBS SYSOP who is out of hard drive space. Distribute the
company's archived data to all offices. Programmers: Save high setup cost of CD
Mastering houses.

- Safe. A virus can't attack files on a CD. - Secure. Once the data is on the
CD, it can't be changed. - Inexpensive. CD backup costs as little as tape.
Floppies
  cost more than the CD drive and tape drive combined! - Convenient.  No more
swapping tapes and searching through
  floppies.
- Compatible. Works under Windows or DOS. Share it on a LAN. - Fast.  Newer
triple speed drives read at up to
  450K/sec...three times the speed of a floppy.  Eight times
  the speed of a tape.

Ship up to 600mb on QIC-40 or QIC-80 tapes and cashier's check or money order
for $125 ($99 for second copy) to:
                Allen Agee
                52 Sleepy Hollow Road
                Andover, New Jersey  07821-5000
                (201)786-7716

Personal checks must clear the bank before the order is shipped.

I keep your costs low by avoiding legal fees. Please sign the following
disclaimer:

     I, the customer assume full responsibility
     for my data.  It contains no illegal or
     dangerous files. If my data contains files
     copyrighted by others, I hold and will
     maintain the appropriate licenses. I certify
     no laws are being broken by placing this data
     on CD-ROM.

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                        (signature)
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From: JIM LARSON                             Number: 10268
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93 12:18p
Subj: CD for trade                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I've got the adult CD ALL BEAUTIES I would like to trade for another adult CD.
This CD has 680 MB, 3991 files of Swimsuit and Adult pictures plus animations--
GL, DL, & FLI.
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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 10269
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 12/11/93 10:23a
Subj: Cd bb for trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GS>I have BB 3 vol.1 I would like to trade for another adult CD,
RN>preferably T &

RN>I have the new Amateur Models I will trade for BB.  What da ya
RN>think?

RN>Randy


RN> * OLX 2.1 TD * All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here.



Randy,
It sounds good to me.  I'll mail you BB.  Please give me your address.  You can
mail Amateur Models to Greg Sterling, 3111 Hann Hill Rd., Hermitage, PA 16159. 
Thanks for the trade.
Greg

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From: ANTHONY FURGISON                       Number: 10270
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/10/93  5:51p
Subj: CD's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Would like to know what other Cd's you have available for sale. I am only
interested in BBS ready ones. You can contact me via this net or netmail me at
my FidoNet # 1:272/111.

Thanks,
Tony Furgison

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From: DAVID REMER                            Number: 10271
  To: CHARLIE JARMAN                           Date: 12/11/93  9:27a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CJ>Hitachi-
CJ>    CDR-3700 (I) AT..........................$399.00
CJ>       300ms; MPC1
CJ>

Is this compatible with the controller card and cables for
the CDR 1700S drives for daisy chaining?




CJ>Sony-
CJ>    CDU-31-03 (I) Dbl. spin *Includes AT I/F.$165.00 *LOW PRICE*
CJ>       550ms access; Not the fastest, but
CJ>       this is a solid drive.
CJ>

Is this compatible for daisychaining to the CDU 531 series?

CJ>    CDU-535 (I) Sony bus.....................$275.00
CJ>       340ms access; XA compliant w/opt. kit
CJ>

Same question as above?

CJ>Toshiba 3401B (I) Dbl. spin SCSI.............$379.00
CJ>       200ms access/330k Xfer/256k buffer;
CJ>       PhotoCD
CJ>

How much for the External model of this drive with cable for
Adaptec 1542B, SCSI to Centronics I believe?

On the other drives above, could you please quote and answer
for External models. Not interested in internal. Thanks.

David.

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 10272
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/11/93 10:37p
Subj: WING COMMANDER DELUXE / W               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Brice!

Wednesday December 08 1993, Brice Fleckenstein writes to Pat Rickerson:


 >> This Cd I think is called Wing Commander 2 Deluxe with Secret Missions.

 BF>  $54, shipping included IF prepaid.

 BF>  Brice's Library
 BF>  5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
 BF>  Indianapolis, IN 46220

 BF>  (317) 726-1980  (Tu Th 11AM - 8PM  We Fr 11AM - 6PM  EST)

Found it local for $18, but thanks for the reply
Pat

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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 10273
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93  4:10p
Subj: CD/Sound card/Speakers                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>                       ```
> Leap Enterprises     (o o)   P.O. Box 328 Cerro Gordo, NC 28430-0328
>-----------------oOO--(_)--OOo-----------------------------------------
> Charlie Jarman             (910)654-4658 <voice> (910)654-5593 <data>


               CD Sound Dimension by ATI Technologies
               --------------------------------------

 *FREE* LABTEC CS-550 SPEAKERS WITH PURCHASE OF THE FOLLOWING:

Stereo F/X CD sound card Multimedia Upgrade Kit
        486 compatible joystick/MIDI port
        6 Channel mixer
        MPC, Windows, SB and Adlib compatible
        44 kHz
        8 watts (4W per channel)
        4 Operator, 20 Voice stereo FM synthesizer
        Five Year Manufacvturer Warranty

Mitsumi LU-005 internal CD-ROM
        (350ms Access/150kb Xfer/32k Buffer
         Photo CD compat., Multisession)
        MPC compatible
        One Year Manufacturer Warranty

Also included:
	Windows Master CD and Game Master CD included (2500+ programs)

        Price: $350.00 (total package and FREE speakers)
                                                        Charlie


... Charlie Jarman (910)654-4658 <voice> or (910)654-5593 <data>
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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 10274
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93  4:13p
Subj: CD-ROM/ CD Discs                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

         WISHING YOU AND YOURS A HAPPY HOLIDAY SEASON!

    LEAP ENTERPRISES is becoming a major source for your computer
 needs. We make no bones about not always being the lowest priced
 because we know that price alone does NOT make a GOOD deal.
    We sell top quality merchandise at good prices and we offer
 support after the sale. Thanks for considering us when making
 your next hardware or software purchase.

  CD-ROM   (E)= External  (I)= Internal  OS/2= Confirmed compat.
 ---------
NEC-
    CDR-74-1 (E) Dbl. spin SCSI..............$399.00
       280ms access/300k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD; MPC1; Mac

    CDR-84-1 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI..............$309.00
       280ms access/300k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD; MPC1; Mac; OS/2

    CDR-500 (I) TRIPLE SPIN SCSI.............$499.00  WOW!
       Below 200ms/256k buffer; PhotoCD

    CDR-600 (E) TRIPLE SPIN SCSI.............$589.00  COOL!
       Below 200ms/256k buffer; PhotoCD

    CDR-900 (I) ** QUADRUPLE SPIN ** SCSI....$999.00  AWESOME!
       Below 200ms/Blazing fast!

Hitachi-
    CDR-3700 (I) AT..........................$399.00
       300ms; MPC1

    CDR-3750 (I) SCSI........................$429.00
       300ms; MPC1

    CDR-6700 (I) Dbl. spin Hitachi bus or AT.$435.00
       260ms access/300k Xfer/128k buffer;
       PhotoCD

    CDR-6750 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI..............$439.00
       260ms access/300k Xfer/128k buffer;
       PhotoCD

    CDR-8750 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI..............$459.00
       238ms access/307k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD; MPC2

    CDR-4000E Tower System with 4 CDR-6700...$2699.00 Tower system!

Sony-
    CDU-31-03 (I) Dbl. spin *Includes AT I/F.$165.00 *LOW PRICE*
       550ms access; Not the fastest, but
       this is a solid drive.

    CDU-535 (I) Sony bus.....................$275.00
       340ms access; XA compliant w/opt. kit

    CDU-561 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI...............$349.00
       265ms access/330k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD; OS/2

    CDU-541 (I) SCSI.........................$349.00
       380ms access; MPC

    CDU-7205/N (E) Sony bus..................$445.00
       340ms access; XA compliant w/opt. kit

Philips-
    CM205XRS (I) w/Audio.....................$329.00
       MPC

    CDD521 600MB RECORDER w/o software.......$4299.00 CD-RECORDER!
       Dbl. spin; Multiformats

Panasonic-
    CR-522 (I) * Includes AT I/F.............$199.00 *LOW PRICE*
       380ms access/150k Xfer;64k buffer;
       PhotoCD

    CR-562 (I) * Includes AT I/F.............$239.00
       340ms access/300k Xfer/64k buffer;
       PhotoCD

Texel DM3028 (I) SCSI........................$359.00
       240ms access/335k Xfer/64k buffer;
       PhotoCD

Teac CD-50 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI................$359.00
       265ms access/365k Xfer/64k buffer;
       PhotoCD; MPC

Toshiba 3401B (I) Dbl. spin SCSI.............$379.00
       200ms access/330k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD

* Other models are also available. We carry 350+ CD-ROM titles for your
enjoyment and education. Contact us for a price on ANY CD you would like
to acquire. We'll do our best to get it for you.

                                                Charlie

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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 10275
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 12/11/93 11:14a
Subj: Censorship                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CB>What a crock of dung! Must be one of those feminists who think a picture
CB>naked woman degrades the whole female sex. Oh well, it's her advertising
CB>dollars she will be losing...not to mention the subscriptions when those
CB>who dislike this type of "political correctness"


You've got it backwards Chris. The politically correct crowd are the
liberals who approve of this stuff.  You know, the pro gay, pro lesbo gang.
The gang who says "if it feels good, do it." The gang who says that people
should be able to do anything they want with no responsibility of their
actions. The gang who os presently fighting for a UCLA Berkley student's
right to walk around butt naked on campus because it's his "freedom of
expression." THAT is politcal correctness.

BTW, censorship occurs only when some form of expression is prohibited by
law, NOT when a privately owned publication chooses not to advertise an
item. That is THEIR right. They are not mandated by anyone to advertise
everything that is thrown at them.

National Geographic magazine (and many others) will not publish cigarette
ads. Is that censorship? Of course not.

Now, back to the topic. What was it again?? <g>.

Ron in Tampa
73163.124@compuserve.com



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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 10276
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93  8:31a
Subj: 14.4 modem                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Forwarded from "ATL4SALE"
 * Originally by Michael Benge
 * Originally to all
 * Originally dated 11 Dec 1993, 8:30

Brand new, in the box, 14.4 modem from Infotel.  10 year warranty, rock solid
with fax, MNP and v.42/v.42.bis.  Includes software and phone cord.  Will
consider trading for a 386sx barebones, or prefer a CD-Rom drive.  Reply here,
1:133/2401 netmail, 404-991-6609 bbs, or 404-991-5780 voice.

MICHAEL BENGE


 * MKRead v1.04 * Sysoping: More fun than being beaten with a sledgehammer.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 10277
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93  7:49p
Subj: Cream of the Crop 2                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                          Cream of the Crop II

                                  $29

                            distributed by:

                              Terry Blount
                             (205-824-2552)

*                               654 megs

*                4469   files   compressed   with   Pkzip

*            Files dated from April 1st through October 18th.

*               Only 200 programs are older than April 93.

*    No files  older  than  Jan  93   EVEN   inside   the   archives!

*   518 additional zip programs were include in various  archives  in
    order to simplify file listing - making a total of 4987 programs.

*   If you are a programmer, especially Pascal, you  will  definitely
    want  this  disc.   (14 megs of pascal source code - 330 files!)

*   BBS ready with Files.bbs in every directory and additional setup
    utilities for 6 popular BBS programs.

* Extended (multi-line) descriptions are included for most files listed.

* The view and retrieval program (Cream.exe) has many new features including:
  1. No setup is required.
  2. Runs directly on the cd and loads listings into memory - making most
     of the options lighting fast.
  3. Mouse support.
  4. Multi-line file-description display.
  5. Selected files can be copied or uncompressed directly to
     the target directory.  When these actions are completed you
     will be returned to your previous position in the listing.
  6. File description keyword search.
  7. File name search option in every category AND on the entire list.
  8. When browsing/searching the entire listing as much of the
     description will be displayed as the memory available on
     the system will allow.  This file search feature is instant.
  9. Help and general information available.
 10. Many internal improvements to optimize the code and verify your
     input is correct and make suggestions to correct any problems.

* Files  were  cataloged  under  the   following   27   categories:

     BATCH             C_LANG            KEYBOARD          SCIENCE
     BBS               DATABASE          LAN               SCREEN
     BUSINESS          DIAG              OS2               SOUND
     CAD               DISK              PASCAL            UTILITY
     CLIPPER           EDITOR            PRINTER           VIRUS
     COMM              EDUCATE           PROGRAM           WINDOWS
     COMPRESS          GAMES             RELIGION


*                        BBS   Support   Programs

 If you run a Maximus, Proboard, Remote Access, Quick  BBS,  PcBoard,  or
 Spitfire BBS programs are included to automatically and instantly set up
 this disk for your bbs file database structure in  only a  few  minutes.
 ALL of these programs will AUTOMATICALLY copy (and correctly format) the
 Files.bbs from this cd to suit the structure of your bbs  and  increment
 the file names, placing the "Files.<x>" ( or File<XX>.bbs in some cases)
 into the directory you specify.  RBBS is now also supported.

*   The following groups of files  were  NOT  included  on  this  disc
    in order that the space available on a cd could be best optimized:

 Commercial programs that are not released under the  shareware  concept,
 files that were older than April 93, sexually explicit (adult)  programs
 and text, newsletters  (except  for a  few  that  contained  programming
 code), magazines, pictures (gifs, fli, animation, fracturals,  graphics,
 clipart, fonts, images, cartoons, ext), music (Cmf, Mid, Mod, Mus,  Rol,
 Voc, Wav, etc.), bbs door games, windows games, windows icons, Macintosh
 &  Unix  operating  system   support   programs,  demos, and  ham radio.


 Orders are now being accepted in one of the following ways:

 1. Call 205-824-2552 and tell me how many copies to send you.

 2. Netmail (crash only --- I am getting feed via Satellite and routed
    netmail may not work)  your address and c.o.d order.

 3. Drop me a letter in the mail:    Terry Blount, P.O. Box 36, Bayou La
    Batre, Al. 36509          ....with your order.

 4. Save the $5 c.o.d. fee and send $30 to the address above.

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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 10278
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/12/93 11:29a
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices12/13/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
            Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM Disc's 
 
          from:     ComputerHelp 
                    PO Box 385041 
                    Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
               Ph:  (612) 890-4750, (800) 514-7071 
                    Fax:  (612) 894-9411 
 
(as of 12/13/93) 
          SIMTEL MSDOS               $13.00 
          CICA MS Windows            $13.00

          Hobbes OS/2                $13.00 
          Aminet Amiga               $13.00 
          Garbo MSDOS/Mac            $13.00 
          Sprite OS                  $13.00 
          QRZ! Ham Radio             $13.00 
          ADA Programming            $18.50 
          GIGA Games                 $18.50 
          La Coleccion               $18.50 
          Nova for NeXTs             $18.50 
          Project Gutenberg          $18.50 
          Source Code                $18.50 
          X11/GNU                    $18.50 
          Info-Mac                   $25.50 
          CUG Library                $23.50 
          Linux                      $23.50 
          Libris Britannia           $34.00 
          Space and Astronomy        $18.50 
 
                  ***SPECIAL***SPECIAL***SPECIAL*** 
     =>>> Order 3 at once and take an Extra $1 Off of Each <<<= 
        (Limited Time Offer!!! Print and enclose this ad with 
                your order.  Good through 12/31/93!!!!) 
 
Shipping:      1-3 discs in one order = $4.50, 4-10 discs in one 
order = $6.50. 
          (MN residents add 6.5% sales tax). 
 
          All prices subject to change without notice. 
          "Yes Mildred, we do take personal cheques!" 
 
All orders by pre-payment, (you want cheap prices....); send to 
address above.  Call with any questions.  (Sorry, we don't accept 
credit cards:  they add to the 
    price and we want to be able to offer you the CHEAPEST PRICES 
   AVAILABLE.  "Thank You for Your Support!!!    -  Richard Carter 
                             ORDER FORM 
 
YES!  Please accept my order for: 
 
  Quantity          Item:         Price Each:   Extension: 
     : 
            SIMTEL MSDOS          $13.00 
            CICA MS Windows       $13.00 
            Hobbes OS/2           $13.00 
            Aminet Amiga          $13.00 
            Garbo MSDOS/Mac       $13.00 
            Sprite OS             $13.00 
            QRZ! Ham Radio        $13.00 
            ADA Programming       $18.50 
            GIGA Games            $18.50 
            La Coleccion          $18.50 
            Nova for NeXTs        $18.50 
            Project Gutenberg     $18.50 
            Source Code           $18.50 
            X11/GNU               $18.50 
            Info-Mac              $25.50 
            CUG Library           $23.50 
            Linux                 $23.50 
            Libris Britannia      $34.00 
            Space and Astronomy   $18.50 
            EMS 1-Disc SAMPLER    $12.00 ** 
                                  SubTotal:     $ 
                                  TX (MN Only)  $ 
                                  Shipping      $ 
                                  TOTAL:        $ 
 
Shipping: $4.50 for 1-3 discs, $6.50 for 4-10 discs, Call for 
           quantities larger than 10 discs. 
           ** No Shipping Charges on the EMS Sampler! 
          If you have an existing FedEX acct and want to charge to 
           it,  "No Problem!" 
          We Do COD, but only with FedEX, and by Cashiers Cheque 
           (it's expensive, but on large orders it might be worth 
           looking at). 
 
Sales Tax:     MN Only!!  6.5%

 
We DO Accept Cheques (Personal & Business held for 5 days to clear; 
     Money Orders & Cashiers Cheques ship same day as in stock). 
 
Call With Any Questions, "We Are Here to Serve Your Needs!" 
 
Please Ship TO: 
  Name: 
  Street Address: 
  City:                      State:         Zip: 
  My Home Phone is:  (      ) My Work Phone is:  (      ) 
   (In case we have a question [or 2] regarding your order) 
___ 
 * OFFLINE 1.56 

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 10279
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 12/12/93  6:38a
Subj: Cd bb for trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GS>It sounds good to me.  I'll mail you BB.  Please give me your address.  You
GS>mail Amateur Models to Greg Sterling, 3111 Hann Hill Rd., Hermitage, PA 1615

I will send the disc out on Monday to the above address.  Last time I
did this though the other person never send me their disc.  I got
ripped, but I will try again.  My address is:

Randy Neuner
196 Hughes St
Ft Huachuca, AZ 85613

v- 602-459-3480
d- my bbs is on tag line below

Let me know when you get this msg and BTW your zip code was cut off the
end of msg. Is it 16159?

Thanks, Randy


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From: CHUCK ADAMS                            Number: 10280
  To: TIM HUTTO                                Date: 12/12/93  6:42p
Subj: Re: SONY DUEL CDROM DRIVE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 10281
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93  2:26a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 10.1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                       N I G H T  O W L  10.1

* Over 5,100 NEW Files   * Over 647 Meg's    * No Dupes   * Virus Checked
* No Dupes To v9.0       * All Zipped Files  * New Viewer * and  More  !!
"Night Owl 10.1 "  is here  and ready  for  delievery  !! All programs on
this cd were written or updated between Jan 1st and  Sept 1st 1993.  In
fact, 100megs of the total files are from Sept 1993.In addition, N.O has
a mouse driven GUI interface for both DOS and Windows !!
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Without Silver Xpress, I DO NO MAIL!
 * Evaluation copy of Silver Xpress. Day # 1
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 10282
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93  2:26a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       A L L  N E W  C D  "S O  M U C H  M O D E M  M A D N E S S"

   7,200 Files             Over 600+ Megs                BBS Ready
   Rip Graphics - BBS Doors - BBS Programs - Modem Utils - Ham Radio
 Desqview - Ansi Graphics - Programming - OS/2 Communcation - Comm Prgs
 Networking Utils - Netmail Progs - Win Communcation - Transfer Protocol
 and a whole lot more......
                              Price - $25.00

 ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Oh never mind!
 * Evaluation copy of Silver Xpress. Day # 1
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From: JEFF DANNER                            Number: 10283
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93 11:51a
Subj: CD-ROM Shareware                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am currently running a BBS at Longview Community College.  We are
considering adding a CD-ROM.  However I have only seen one CD that had
shareware on it.  I anyone out there knows where I can get shareware on CD
please leave me a message.   Thank You.  
 
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From: MICHAEL MESCHKE                        Number: 10284
  To: TOTALLY CRAZY                            Date: 12/12/93  8:57p
Subj: Comment 12/12/93 8:56pm                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Did you get my picture file? It's labeled "meschke.gif".  I FINALLY
found out how to size down those graphic files I create when scanning
(at least for now)..

                                                 Mike
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From: ELDON WAKEFIELD                        Number: 10285
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/13/93  7:06a
Subj: Re: CD'S                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Pat if you want them for 40.00 you can have them, The MegaRom 2 was sold but I
will trow in another one of equal value plus better Eldon
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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 10286
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 12/09/93 10:48p
Subj: SIMTEL-20 UTILITIES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Brice,

 >>BF>   Simtel 20 doesn't have the search engine, but it DOES have the best
 > BF>
 >> assortment of GOOD utilities I have seen anywhere. Not the "newest"  BF>
 >>stuff, more the "best no matter HOW old it might happen to be" stuff.

 >>They didn't put the search engine on the CD?

          I have been working, for the last few months, on a general purpose
search engine for BBS file bases.  The idea is that it will eventually become a
door to be used on-line.  I intend to offer this as a service for users and
SysOp's alike.  The "engine" works on words in the file descriptions and
operates EXTREMELY quickly.  I have 6 CDs and 2Gb on-line here with 41856 files
all together, the text "files list" is around 5Mb.

          The off-line engine will find ANY file from any word or combination
of words given in about a second.  Searching for "hard" combinations can take a
little longer.  Looking for "-93" for example turns up over 17000 files and it
takes about 3 seconds to locate the list, on a 386 <grin>.

          Lists can be printed to the printer or output to a file.  The on-line
version has direct file tagging for Maximus BBSs.

          If you have your BBS file list in PCB format, it's just a convenient
format <grin>, then send it to me and I'll send a copy of the engine and
database for your CD.  Database size is about 3.5Mb per CD on average.

Send a couple of diskettes and your files lists and take a test.

    PL 97

    02101 Espoo

    Finland


Some stats from the Simtel-20 CD from a few weeks ago:-

>  Simtel-20 has 173 file areas with 6742 files
>  a "file" is a description record and may be more than the
>  actual number of Files.
>
> File descriptions containing the words "window" and "edit"    9
>
> File descriptions containing the word "morph"                 6
>
> Files dated within 1993                                    1339


                                                   Cheers,

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10287
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 12/13/93 11:59p
Subj: CENSORSHIP                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DR> BF>  In the PC Mag case, governmental PRESSURE appears to have been
applied,
DR> BF> and therefore it DEFINITELY qualifies as censorship - even by YOUR
limit
DR> BF> definition.

DR>What is the basis for this statement?  I don't think you have a basis, other
DR>than "personal opinion."  There is NO appearance that ANY pressure from ANY
DR>group was applied.  PC Magazine made a decision, which they are free to do.
DR>feel they implemented a policy that's fair to both sides.  All they did was
DR>remove the pictures.  XXX can still be advertised, just without the enticing
DR>pictures.  Any reputable magazine would not want such pictures in their
pages
DR>Especially when they're trying to reach such a wide audience.

I'm happy just as long as Sears and Penneys keep the lingerie pictures in
their catalogs. <g>

Later Mr. Toastmaster,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10288
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 12/13/93 11:59p
Subj: 14.4 modem                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>Brand new, in the box, 14.4 modem from Infotel.  10 year warranty, rock
solid
MB>with fax, MNP and v.42/v.42.bis.  Includes software and phone cord.  Will
MB>consider trading for a 386sx barebones, or prefer a CD-Rom drive.  Reply
here
MB>1:133/2401 netmail, 404-991-6609 bbs, or 404-991-5780 voice.
MB>MICHAEL BENGE

Hey Terry, you looking for a modem?  Maybe he'll send it to you on
approval.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10289
  To: MIKE GRIFFIN                             Date: 12/14/93 12:00a
Subj: CD GUIDE FREE W/ $100+ PR               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG> MS> changing game. 8)  Tell ya what, remind me on your next order, and I'll
MG> MS> throw one in for free, regardless of the order total.  Fair enough?

MG>Thats why I do business with ya! More than fair!

No prob.  Just remind me on the next go-round.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10290
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 12/14/93 12:00a
Subj: Forbidden Subjects CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HB>MS>Interesting.  I've had a few customers request it, but I've never looked
a
HB>MS>one.  What is it that makes it "macabre"?

HB>Hi, Mike:

HB>Well, for starters, it has GIFs showing such things as people (or what's
HB>left of them) fatally injured by bomb blasts; executed by guillotine;
HB>some having had radical surgery performed to various extremities of
HB>their bodies; infants who have been crushed in car accidents; previously
HB>unreleased (and for good reason) photos of murder victims; and so many
HB>more "delightful" things to feed ones mind on.

GACK!!  Guess we won't be stocking that one.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10291
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93 12:00a
Subj: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #5: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS   |
         |________________________________________________________|


   1. Games Collection     2. CD Winbox           3. Busty Babes vol 2
      Games 1993              Windows Collection     Digital Dreams
      Game Arena              Dr. Windows            Amateur Models
      ----------              -----------            --------------
      $59                     $59                    $79


   4. Digital Dreams 1     5. Ham Radio 3.0       6. Pier 2
      Digital Dreams 2        Hamware 1993           Pier 3
      ----------------        ------------           ------
      $54                     $31                    $49


   7. Software Vault 1     8. Clipart Galore      9. Shareware '93 vol 2
      Software Vault 2        Clipart Heaven         Pier 3
      Software Vault Gold     Ency. of Clipart       Software Vault Gold
      -------------------     ----------------       -------------------
      $57                     $59                    $69


  10. CD Winbox           11. Giga Games         12. OS/2Box
      Windows 93              Game Arena             Hobbes OS/2
      ----------              ----------             -----------
      $44                     $35                    $39


  13. Fantazia Fonts      14. OS/2Box           15. Shareware Online 1
      Fontmaster 2            CD Powerbox           Shareware Online 2
      Too Many Typefonts      CD Winbox             So Much Shareware 3
      ------------------      ---------             -------------------
      $49                     $49                   $69

PLUS, AN ADDED BONUS . . . . .

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10292
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93 12:00a
Subj: CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

           ______________________________________________________
          |                                                      |
          |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #3:  CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS   |
          |______________________________________________________|

            We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
             - Cards are not processed until date of shipment -

 CD POWERBOX 2 * What's better and newer than NO10 or Pier 3? One guess.$29
 CD SOURCEBOX * Current code for VisualBasic, Pascal, and C.............$29
 PC-SIG 13 * Newest CD from the oldest shareware distributor............$33

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: GREG COBB                              Number: 10293
  To: CLIFF FIVEASH                            Date: 12/14/93  8:14a
Subj: Peir 3                                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

>Gary, Since I have only been BBSing for a couple of years, I asked
>a few Sysop friends wht the deal was on the "Private" marking that you
>can choose when you make replies. Also, what the difference was
>between echomail and netmail. They informed me that there is no difference
>between echomail and netmail and that if or when I choose the
>"Private" option, that only Sysops, Co-Sysops or someone that they
>have given "read access" to can read that message.

Kinda makes me wonder what they're doing being sysops!  The difference is like
daylight and dark.  You're in a national echo, and it probably hit about 10000
computers.


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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 10294
  To: GREGORY GUALTIERI                        Date: 12/14/93  8:41a
Subj: Re: CD's for sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GG>  Tell me about the SVGA cards. What kind? Regular or local bus? (I only

I think maybe this message was intended for someone else, eh? I mean, I
_could_ tell you about SVGA cards, if you'd like, but somehow, I don't think I
was the intended receiver (grin).

GG>  --- Renegade v12-09 Hack

Renegade, eh? I used to run it, nice little "hack" of Telegard...

-e-

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 10295
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 12/14/93  7:25a
Subj: Want CD's or Money                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Chris!

Sunday December 12 1993, Chris Bourne writes to Pat Rickerson:


 >> Sent you $27.50 for some CD's but never recived the cd's. Are
 >> you getting these reply's or not? Sent this money out on
 >> Nov.18th, just let me know whats going on. Have had to many
 >> people lately not sending what I have payed for. Will contact
 >> bank to see if the check has already cleared. Sure hope you have
 >> been to busy to get these out :) Waiting for your reply

 CB> Was busy, and also wanted to make sure the check cleared. You should have
 CB> them before you get this reply. Thanks.

Got them yesterday, thanks.
Pat

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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 10296
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93 12:07p
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices12/12/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>ComputerHelp is Happy to Announce We Are Currently< 
>Offering EMS Professional Software's CRDOM Discs!!!< 
 
If you are PC-based or Windows-based and Have Liked the 
Shareware & Utility CDROM Discs on the Market, We Believe 
You Will Really See Added Value in These Discs!!!  "WE DO!!!!" 
 
EMS Has Changed Their Format Recently and Made Their Discs 
Much More User Friendly.  We Don't Want To Take Too Much 
Space Here, But the EMS 2-Disc Set is $59.95 + shipping. 
 
If You Are Curious About the Discs, We Have a SPECIAL For YOU!!! 
We Have Sampler Single Disks (that are 1 rev -- or about 
2 months -- old).  They are the discs only, without the indexes, 
COMPLETELY FUNCTIONAL AND WITH ALL THE DATA!!! 
 
They include utilities and programs covering:  ASM, C, C++, 
AutoCAD, Xbase, DOS, Games, Hardware Demos, HomePC, Jokes, 
Multimedia, Netware, ObjectVision, Quick Basic, Paradox, 
Small Business, TrueType Fonts, TurboPascal, Visual Basic, 
Windows, and a PC Products Database. 
 
Personally, this disc has been a real resource for us in our 
computer room.  (Previously, it was just the way they handled 
their indexing that bothered us.)  They have changed that in the 
Current versions.  Remember, the Full-Fledged current versions 
are Currently $59.95 from EMS; Our Sale Price is $49.95. 
THESE VERY SPECIAL SINGLE DISC SAMPLERS ARE ON SALE FOR $12, 
INCLUDING SHIPPING! 
 
There are about 150 of these Sampler Single Discs currently available. 
 
As always, If You are Not Happy With Any Product from Us, We 
Will Take it Back within 30-days of date of purchase.  Your only 
expense would be freight/shipping. 
 
"WE WANT YOU HAPPY AND TO COME BACK THE NEXT TIME YOU ARE IN THE MARKET!" 
 
Thanks, 
Richard Carter 
___----------------------      ------------------      -------------------- 
 
 
            Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM Disc's 
 
          from:     ComputerHelp 
                    PO Box 385041 
                    Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
               Ph:  (612) 890-4750, (800) 514-7071 
                    Fax:  (612) 894-9411 
 
(as of 12/09/93) 
          SIMTEL MSDOS               $13.00 
          CICA MS Windows            $13.00 
          Hobbes OS/2                $13.00 
          Aminet Amiga               $13.00 
          Garbo MSDOS/Mac            $13.00 
          Sprite OS                  $13.00 
          QRZ! Ham Radio             $13.00 
          ADA Programming            $18.50 
          GIGA Games                 $18.50 
          La Coleccion               $18.50 
          Nova for NeXTs             $18.50 
          Project Gutenberg          $18.50 
          Source Code                $18.50

          X11/GNU                    $18.50 
          Info-Mac                   $25.50 
          CUG Library                $23.50 
          Linux                      $23.50 
          Libris Britannia           $34.00 
          Space and Astronomy        $18.50 
 
                  ***SPECIAL***SPECIAL***SPECIAL*** 
     =>>> Order 3 at once and take an Extra $1 Off of Each <<<= 
        (Limited Time Offer!!! Print and enclose this ad with 
                your order.  Good through 12/31/93!!!!) 


Shipping:      1-3 discs in one order = $4.50, 4-10 discs in one 
order = $6.50. 
          (MN residents add 6.5% sales tax).

 
          All prices subject to change without notice. 
          "Yes Mildred, we do take personal cheques!" 
 
All orders by pre-payment, (you want cheap prices....); send to 
address above.  Call with any questions.  (Sorry, we don't accept 
credit cards:  they add to the 
    price and we want to be able to offer you the CHEAPEST PRICES 
   AVAILABLE.  "Thank You for Your Support!!!    -  Richard Carter 
                             ORDER FORM 
 
YES!  Please accept my order for: 
 
  Quantity          Item:         Price Each:   Extension: 
     : 
            SIMTEL MSDOS          $13.00 
            CICA MS Windows       $13.00 
            Hobbes OS/2           $13.00 
            Aminet Amiga          $13.00 
            Garbo MSDOS/Mac       $13.00 
            Sprite OS             $13.00 
            QRZ! Ham Radio        $13.00 
            ADA Programming       $18.50 
            GIGA Games            $18.50 
            La Coleccion          $18.50 
            Nova for NeXTs        $18.50

            Project Gutenberg     $18.50 
            Source Code           $18.50 
            X11/GNU               $18.50 
            Info-Mac              $25.50 
            CUG Library           $23.50 
            Linux                 $23.50 
            Libris Britannia      $34.00 
            Space and Astronomy   $18.50 
            EMS 1-Disc SAMPLER    $12.00 ** 
                                  SubTotal:     $ 
                                  TX (MN Only)  $ 
                                  Shipping      $ 
                                  TOTAL:        $ 
 
Shipping: $4.50 for 1-3 discs, $6.50 for 4-10 discs, Call for 
           quantities larger than 10 discs. 
           ** No Shipping Charges on the EMS Sampler! 
          If you have an existing FedEX acct and want to charge to 
           it,  "No Problem!" 
          We Do COD, but only with FedEX, and by Cashiers Cheque 
           (it's expensive, but on large orders it might be worth 
           looking at). 
 
Sales Tax:     MN Only!!  6.5% 
 
We DO Accept Cheques (Personal & Business held for 5 days to clear; 
     Money Orders & Cashiers Cheques ship same day as in stock). 
 
Call With Any Questions, "We Are Here to Serve Your Needs!" 
 
Please Ship TO: 
  Name: 
  Street Address: 
  City:                      State:         Zip: 
  My Home Phone is:  (      ) My Work Phone is:  (      ) 


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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 10297
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/13/93 12:07p
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices12/12/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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                     >> Continued from previous message <<


   (In case we have a question [or 2] regarding your order) 
___ 
 * OFFLINE 1.56 

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From: DAVE KALWISHKY                         Number: 10298
  To: LEO MULVIHILL                            Date: 12/07/93  9:29p
Subj: CD's for Sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LM> Compton's Multimedia Encyclopedia

How about $30?

     -=> Dave <=-     Mon  12-06-1993


 -- SPEED 1.4i #1039: Nothing outlasts Data! He keeps going, and going, and..
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From: DAVE KALWISHKY                         Number: 10299
  To: PAUL SCHIFFERLI                          Date: 12/07/93  9:29p
Subj: Censorship                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PS> The latest issue of PC Magazine informs all readers that they will no
  > longer accept adds of an ADULT nature with Graphics.  I note that the

  > To all, why not let PC Mag know how you feel about the issue.

Considering that younger people read this magazine I think it GREAT!  I
myself own quite a few Adult CD's but PC Magazine is the LAST place I would
want to see them advertised, especially with graphics.

     -=> Dave <=-     Mon  12-06-1993


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From: MATTHEW LYNCH                          Number: 10300
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/16/93  6:29a
Subj: Anyone got a....                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

Hey out there....  Does anyone have a Battle Chess Enhanced CD or a Chess
Master 3000 (or National Lampoon's Chess Master 5 Billion, for that matter)
They'd be willing to part with for a few bucks and shipping?  I know for
awhile, BattleChess came bundled with CD-ROM drives and Chess Master 3k still
is..  if anyone wants to part with these, lemme know...  Thanks.


-=[Matthew]=-  (The X Frontiers)

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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 10301
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/16/93 10:08a
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New Release        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


************ GRAPHICAL IMAGES OF FLORIDA, INC. *************

                          Presents

******************** BODACIOUS BEAUTIES ********************

    Available From Your Distributor By January 15, 1994

       A FULLY COMMERCIAL -- FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC

        More Than 80 Well Known BODACIOUS BEAUTIES
          Over 2,000 Hi-Res GIFs at 1024x768x256
                    Over 650 Megabytes
                 From Original 35mm Slides
                     New GUI Interface
                 Installs Quickly & Easily
                  Extremely User Friendly
                 Mouse Support & Popup Help
                Multiple Directory Slide Show

                          RATED - X

******************* FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!! *****************
****** FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS *****
**************** RATES AVAILBALE UPON REQUEST **************
                    TELEPHONE 407-831-3011


50 of the BEST Known BODACIOUS BEAUTIES include:

Front Covergirl - CRYSTAL STORM
Back Covergirl  - DIXIE BUBBLES
Inside Front    - DAKOTA KELLY

Alyssa Alps             Angel Bust              Angela Summers
Bambi The Amazon        Bodacious Babbett       Brandy Baby
Brandi Myles            Busty Belle             Busty Brittany
Candy Cantelopes        Chessie Moore           Chrissy Paris
Cotton Candy            Crystal Topps           Erika Everest
Europe Dichan           Fluffy Pillows          Heather Hooters
Honey Hills             Honey Moons             Jerica Fox
Jessica Fox             Jessica Juggs           Justa Dream
Keisha                  Kimberly Kupps          Kiss
Leanna Lovelace         Lisa Chest              Lisa Rae
LuLu Devine             Lynden Johnson          Madison
Mickey Mounds           Montana                 Patty Plenty
Persia                  Princess Pattiya        Suzie Boobies
Tabatha Towers          Tammy Monroe            Taylor Wayne
Toi                     Traci Teeze             Trinity Loren
Veronica Brazil         Wendy Whoppers

Stay tuned for more information regarding our NEW GUI interface
in future posts.  
 
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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 10302
  To: DENNIS HENDERSON                         Date: 12/15/93  4:31p
Subj: BUSTY BABES VOLUME II                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DH> LN>>Geesh, how good could some gal at 37 be ?

DH> My wife is 41 and will make you stammer, stutter and drool all over
DH> yourself.  Don't be so quick to generalize based on age alone....older
DH> frequently IS better.  An experienced self-confident WOMAN beats a
DH> nervous giggly GIRL hands down!  But we stray from the topic....

Well, I dunno, but somehow I suspect Ms. Noga will take this as a
compliment. <g> Lee? Are you listening?

 * SLMR 2.1a * Nature is a hanging judge.


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From: STEVE O'BRIEN                          Number: 10303
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/15/93  7:10p
Subj: WANTED MY PRIVATE COLLECTION I & II     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking to buy My Private Collection both volumes.  Leave price or if ya think
it is a real good deal and you know I will taake it call me at 215/533-3190. 
Thanks!
WANTED : MY PRIVATE COLLECTION I & II

Steve

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 10304
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93  4:55a
Subj: Popular Titles                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

             *********   Computer Works CD-Rom Sales!   ********* 
 
                                Popular Titles 
 
Precision Mapping.........$76     The Business Master..............$19 
Grolier MPC Encyclopedia..$44     American Business Phonebook......$16 
US & World Atlas..........$22     Microsoft Works..................$39 
Reference Library.........$19     Prophone Business 1993...........$26 
The Animals MPC...........$24     Desktop Publishers Dream Disc....$37 
Mayo Clinic...............$26     Publishers Paradise..............$32 
The Family Doctor.........$24     Encyclopedia of Clipart..........$24 
Firearms Reference 1993...$29     GIFs Galore......................$16 
US History PC/MAC.........$27     MacMillan Dict. for Children.....$29 
Audubon's Mammals.........$21     Kodak Photo CD for Windows.......$19 
Holy Bible................$22     Tempra Access Photo CD Imaging...$18 
 
Computer Works               For a file containing all descriptions 
CD-Rom Sales!                  download CATALOG.ZIP from our BBS. 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS            Online Orders, File Lists, Catalogs 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 10305
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 12/14/93  7:10a
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices12/12/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RC>           Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM Disc's 
 
Hi Richard.  Do you have any input to the producers at Walnut Creek? 
If so, PLEASE relay to them a bit of advice about the term "BBS Ready". 
As a CD-Rom retailer myself, I have had a good opportunity to compare 
many shareware titles for the best features. 
 
A single layer of directories instead of their usual multiple layers 
saves sysops hours of set up time.  I just installed the Aminet Amiga 
shareware CD-Rom on my BBS.  There were 136 different directories, some 
of which contained only one file.  I had to make 3 complete menu 
screens just to display all the file areas.  How about making the 
directory structure a little more simple and the directories a little 
more broad in topic so that there would not be such unnecessary work for 
those of us trying to run them online? 
 
Example: 
 
Big Sky Rom I           Aminet 
 
E:\BIGSKY01\DL01        E:\AMINET\COMM\BBS\EXCEL 
E:\BIGSKY01\DL02        E:\AMINET\BIZ\DBASE 
E:\BIGSKY01\DL38        E:\AMINET\PIX\IRC\1992PICS\JPG\BERLIN 
 
You see, Big Sky is much easier to set up than the Walnut Creek titles. 
Big Sky limits the number of directories to 38, with a decent number of 
files in each.  Aminet's 136 directories are quite excessive.  Aminet is 
just the latest one I have looked at. All others I have seen are similar 
in directory structure. 
 
This is really not directed at you, but I was hoping you could either 
pass the suggestion along or inform me who from Walnut Creek monitors 
this echo.  Thanks! 
 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 10306
  To: ANTON SHEVCHENKO                         Date: 12/14/93  7:14a
Subj: wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >if you have any cd's for sale, drop me a note. 
  >thanks 
 
We have over 600 to choose from.  You can download our catalog.zip, 
which includes titles, prices, and descriptions or post your address, 
and I will mail you a listing.  We don't mail the catalog with 
descriptions due to size, but will include it on floppy with any order. 
Let me know if you have any questions. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Ordering 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 10307
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/14/93  8:23a
Subj: Big Sky Rom                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

             Big Sky Rom I - The Downloader's Rom     $26.00 
 
            The following is a summary of Big Sky's contents: 
 
 1-Applications                        has   78 files in   8860442 bytes 
 2-Banner/Label Programs & Forms       has   55 files in   4999467 bytes 
 3-Business Accounting & Finance       has  171 files in  27236955 bytes 
 4-Benchmarks/Virus/Diagnostics Aids   has  200 files in  10975483 bytes 
 5-Batch/Boot/Event Utilities          has  187 files in   7425730 bytes 
 6-C.A.D. & C.A.M.                     has   99 files in  17424182 bytes 
 7-Communications Programs             has  161 files in  11892218 bytes 
 8-Comm Protocols & Modem Setups       has  124 files in   6921283 bytes 
 9-Compression Programs                has   93 files in   4994354 bytes 
10-DataBase Programs                   has  149 files in  22266071 bytes 
11-Desktop/Desktop Pub/Spreadsheets    has  354 files in  23892456 bytes 
12-DOS Utilities                       has  364 files in  20528228 bytes 
13-GAMES and Educational Programs      has  455 files in  51947623 bytes 
14-Graphic Programs & Utilities        has  186 files in  17189493 bytes 
15-Graphics/Animations/Raytraced       has   67 files in   8302645 bytes 
16-Ham Radio/Shortwave Listening       has  127 files in  10827913 bytes 
17-Handicapped Aids & Utilities        has   96 files in   6328069 bytes 
18-Home & Personal Computing & Humor   has  209 files in  20981405 bytes 
19-Home Recipes / Health / Medicine    has   35 files in   3264702 bytes 
20-LANs/Multitask/Nets/AltOperatingSys has  513 files in  25065622 bytes 
21-Menu Programs & Shells              has  158 files in  13988639 bytes 
22-OffLine Mail Readers                has   58 files in   8041759 bytes 
23-OS/2(tm) Files / Programs           has  139 files in   7248561 bytes 
24-Patches & UnProtects                has   76 files in    670913 bytes 
25-Printer Helps / Drivers /Utilities  has   56 files in   6728671 bytes 
26-Speaker & SB & AdLib & Midi Utils   has  136 files in  14315154 bytes 
27-Religion & Genealogy Programs       has   82 files in  19894361 bytes 
28-WordProcessing & Text Editors       has  544 files in  49620750 bytes 
29-Win Communications                  has   75 files in  10589118 bytes 
30-Win Desktop / Editors / Fonts       has  421 files in  46274330 bytes 
31-Win Drivers                         has   72 files in  26672107 bytes 
32-Win Games / Sound Files             has  531 files in  35482915 bytes 
33-Win Home & Personal                 has  117 files in  20100365 bytes 
34-Win Icons BMP's & Screen Apps       has  277 files in  24377912 bytes 
35-Win NT                              has   51 files in   4601488 bytes 
36-Win Utilities and Help files        has  426 files in  33732237 bytes 
37-Windows Demo                        has   52 files in  17869028 bytes 
38-Outerware(tm) Yellowstone Park BMPs has   30 files in  13327780 bytes 
 
Total of files = 7024 
Total of bytes = 664860429 
 
Big Sky Rom I is available from Computer Works for $26.00 
We are now taking pre-orders for Big Sky Rom II - Top Drawer $19.00 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Ordering 
 
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From: DANNY BRIGANCE                         Number: 10308
  To: MICHAEL GUIDRY                           Date: 12/16/93  9:17a
Subj: Bible Cd's Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Michael!

Monday December 13 1993, Robert Moss writes to Michael Guidry:


 >>RM>MG> I've got The Bible Library containing 9 bibles and 20 reference
 >>RM>  > The bibles are:

 MG>> I already promised it to Danny Brigance.  If, for some reason, the deal
 >> falls thru, will let you know.

Not going to fall thru Mike.  In fact you should already have the check.  If
not let me know.  Also I was clear on your message about not sending it until
Tuesday evening.  Will let you know when it arrives.  Thanks....

Danny

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From: DANNY BRIGANCE                         Number: 10309
  To: STEVE KRAISLER                           Date: 12/16/93  9:34a
Subj: Busty babes ii                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Steve!

 SK> Yep.  I have Dinosaur Adventure, Interactive Storytime vol.2,Fractured
 SK> Mother Goose and Great Cites Vol 1.

Are these for sale?

Danny

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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 10310
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/11/93  7:36p
Subj: Busty Babies 1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Busty Babies Version 1 " Original Version "
75 dollars..  Price includes 2nd day delivery.
412 793 9152  ken

Happy Holidays To All...

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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 10311
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/28/93  1:09p
Subj: Photoshop 2.5.1 CD- Mac                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     PHOTOSHOP 2.5.1
     Brand New FULL DELUXE version (not an upgrade). 
     * This is the new CD ROM version. 
       CD contains Photoshop plus working versions of 
       Illustrator, Premiere. KAI's Power Tools & 
       lots of stock photos, video tutorial, etc.

     Asking $350, but will take the BEST CASH OFFER. 

     412-761-9090  fax: 412-766-3299





                                                                               
                                       

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From: ADRIAN VERGOT                          Number: 10312
  To: ALL                                      Date: 11/29/93  7:10p
Subj: Custom CD-ROM $75 !                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM? 
 
CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your proprietary DOS or Windows
files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and Affordable.
All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information
(600+ Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (other
formats considered on a case by case basis) and we will directly
transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any
ISO compliant CD-ROM drive (just about every one made today!)
 
- Confidentiality is assured
- $75 per CD-ROM (mention this add)
- additional copies only $50 each
- Turn around time is about 2 days
- BBS Sysops call for rates
- We accept money orders and cashiers checks
- Pesonal Check orders will be shipped when check clears bank
 
If interested, call (412) 942-4694 and ask for Adrian 
Auto Fax (412) 942-4694
 
Make checks payable to : Adrian Vergot
                         108 Shady Lane
                         McMurray, PA  15317
 
Enclose a signed copy of the following disclaimer with your order:
 
DUE TO THE BULK NATURE OF THIS SERVICE, CD-ROM CREATIONS (c) DOES
NOT AND CAN NOT CENSOR AND DETERMINE THE NATURE OF THE MATERIEL
THAT THE CUSTOMER IS PROVIDING.  IT IS THEREFORE THE SOLE
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER TO ENSURE THAT NO COPYRIGHT
VIOLATIONS EXIST IN PLACING THE DATA ONTO CD-ROM
                      Signed ______________________________
                                     Your Signature

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From: ADRIAN VERGOT                          Number: 10313
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/07/93 12:14a
Subj: Custom CD-ROM $75 !                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM? 
 
CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your proprietary DOS or Windows
files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and Affordable.
All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information
(600+ Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (other
formats considered on a case by case basis) and we will directly
transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any
ISO compliant CD-ROM drive (just about every one made today!)
 
- Confidentiality is assured
- $75 per CD-ROM (mention this add)
- additional copies only $50 each
- Turn around time is about 2 days
- BBS Sysops call for rates
- We accept money orders and cashiers checks
- Pesonal Check orders will be shipped when check clears bank
 
If interested, call (412) 942-4694 and ask for Adrian 
Auto Fax (412) 942-4694
 
Make checks payable to : Adrian Vergot
                         108 Shady Lane
                         McMurray, PA  15317
 
Enclose a signed copy of the following disclaimer with your order:
 
DUE TO THE BULK NATURE OF THIS SERVICE, CD-ROM CREATIONS (c) DOES
NOT AND CAN NOT CENSOR AND DETERMINE THE NATURE OF THE MATERIEL
THAT THE CUSTOMER IS PROVIDING.  IT IS THEREFORE THE SOLE
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER TO ENSURE THAT NO COPYRIGHT
VIOLATIONS EXIST IN PLACING THE DATA ONTO CD-ROM
                      Signed ______________________________
                                     Your Signature

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From: ADRIAN VERGOT                          Number: 10314
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/10/93  2:05p
Subj: Custom CD-ROM $75 !                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM? 
 
CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your proprietary DOS or Windows
files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and Affordable.
All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information
(600+ Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (other
formats considered on a case by case basis) and we will directly
transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any
ISO compliant CD-ROM drive (just about every one made today!)
 
- Confidentiality is assured
- $75 per CD-ROM (mention this add)
- additional copies only $50 each
- Turn around time is about 2 days
- BBS Sysops call for rates
- We accept money orders and cashiers checks
- Pesonal Check orders will be shipped when check clears bank
 
If interested, call (412) 942-4694 and ask for Adrian 
Auto Fax (412) 942-4694
 
Make checks payable to : Adrian Vergot
                         108 Shady Lane
                         McMurray, PA  15317
 
Enclose a signed copy of the following disclaimer with your order:
 
DUE TO THE BULK NATURE OF THIS SERVICE, CD-ROM CREATIONS (c) DOES
NOT AND CAN NOT CENSOR AND DETERMINE THE NATURE OF THE MATERIEL
THAT THE CUSTOMER IS PROVIDING.  IT IS THEREFORE THE SOLE
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER TO ENSURE THAT NO COPYRIGHT
VIOLATIONS EXIST IN PLACING THE DATA ONTO CD-ROM
                      Signed ______________________________
                                     Your Signature

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From: KOMKIT LISTISARD                       Number: 10315
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 12/15/93  6:55p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SCSI

  Hi Boris, I have a Mitsumi int D-speed here on my BBS, as you know it
an AT BUS, so my question is its going to be ok if I get a SCSI drive
and the controller card and put it in the same computer. Do you think is
that ok?

  See, because I don't want to get rid of the AT BUS cd-rom, and I Just
got it only 2 months.. now I need mode cd-rom drive but not sure it will
be ok if I add another drive but this time going to be a SCSI?

 Komkit Listisard

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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 10316
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 12/15/93  1:35a
Subj: Amateur Models for trade                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN>I  have the new Amateur Models for trade for another adult cd-rom
RN>title.
RN>Perfect condition, only viewed once.

RN> * OLX 2.1 TD * This tagline is umop apisdn



Randy,
I'll trade you Busty Babes #3, vol. for it. Let me know.
Greg

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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 10317
  To: DAVID REMER                              Date: 12/14/93  9:01p
Subj: Cd-rom drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific David Remer postulated to Charlie about Cd-rom drives...


        Hi David, the following answers are as per my supplier's tech
        support people:

 CJ>Hitachi-
 CJ>    CDR-3700 (I) AT..........................$399.00

 DR> Is this compatible with the controller card and cables for
 DR> the CDR 1700S drives for daisy chaining?

        Yes, as they both use the same I/F card (CRIF18S).

 CJ>Sony-
 CJ>    CDU-31-03 (I) Dbl. spin *Includes AT I/F.$165.00 *LOW PRICE*

 DR> Is this compatible for daisychaining to the CDU 531 series?

        Not that they know of, but their info on the 531 is limited.

 CJ>    CDU-535 (I) Sony bus.....................$275.00

 DR> Same question as above?

        I didn't know if you wanted info on the 535 <--> 531 or the
        31 <--> 535, so I asked about both. The 535 <--> 531 should be
        compatible as they *should* use the same bus (again limited info
        here). The 31 <--> 535 should be compatible as they both use the
        Sony bus.

 CJ>Toshiba 3401B (I) Dbl. spin SCSI.............$379.00

 DR> How much for the External model of this drive with cable for
 DR> Adaptec 1542B, SCSI to Centronics I believe?

        The drive is $459.00 external. I don't list the Adaptec 1542B.
        However, Toshiba has a PCF kit for CD-ROM (SCSI cable; PC/AT
        adaptor; S/W drivers; terminator; and disk/manual for $149.00,
        too.

 DR> On the other drives above, could you please quote and answer
 DR> for External models. Not interested in internal. Thanks.

        The other answers are for external models where available.
        Please let me know if I can be of further service to you. I hope
        that I have helped you make a decision on which drive to
        purchase from us. Thanks for the opportunity to help.

                                                        Charlie

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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 10318
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 12/16/93 10:27a
Subj: CDROM Caddies...                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The prolific James Porter postulated to All about CDROM Caddies......

 JP> I am looking to buy 8 CDROM caddies for 8 Hitachi 3500 CDROM drives.
 JP> Prices anyone?

        James, I can get those for $6.50 each (Quantity 100 or more) or
        $12.50 each. I get a great break at 100 quantity. :)
                                                        Charlie

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From: CHARLIE JARMAN                         Number: 10319
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/16/93 10:43a
Subj: CD-ROM drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  CD-ROM   (E)= External  (I)= Internal  OS/2= Confirmed compat.
 ---------
NEC-
    CDR-74-1 (E) Dbl. spin SCSI..............$399.00
       280ms access/300k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD; MPC1; Mac
    CDR-84-1 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI..............$309.00
       280ms access/300k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD; MPC1; Mac; OS/2
    CDR-500 (I) TRIPLE SPIN SCSI.............$499.00  WOW!
       Below 200ms/256k buffer; PhotoCD
    CDR-600 (E) TRIPLE SPIN SCSI.............$589.00  COOL!
       Below 200ms/256k buffer; PhotoCD
    CDR-900 (I) ** QUADRUPLE SPIN ** SCSI....$999.00  AWESOME!
       Below 200ms/Blazing fast!

Hitachi-
    CDR-3700 (I) AT..........................$399.00
       300ms; MPC1
    CDR-3750 (I) SCSI........................$429.00
       300ms; MPC1
    CDR-6700 (I) Dbl. spin Hitachi bus or AT.$435.00
       260ms access/300k Xfer/128k buffer;
       PhotoCD
    CDR-6750 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI..............$439.00
       260ms access/300k Xfer/128k buffer;
       PhotoCD
    CDR-8750 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI..............$459.00
       238ms access/307k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD; MPC2
    CDR-4000E Tower System with 4 CDR-6700...$2699.00 Tower system!

Sony-
    CDU-31-03 (I) Dbl. spin *Includes AT I/F.$165.00 *LOW PRICE*
       550ms access; Not the fastest, but
       this is a solid drive.
    CDU-535 (I) Sony bus.....................$275.00
       340ms access; XA compliant w/opt. kit
    CDU-561 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI...............$349.00
       265ms access/330k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD; OS/2
    CDU-541 (I) SCSI.........................$349.00
       380ms access; MPC
    CDU-7205/N (E) Sony bus..................$445.00
       340ms access; XA compliant w/opt. kit

Philips-
    CM205XRS (I) w/Audio.....................$329.00
       MPC
    CDD521 600MB RECORDER w/o software.......$4299.00 CD-RECORDER!
       Dbl. spin; Multiformats

Panasonic-
    CR-522 (I) * Includes AT I/F.............$199.00 *LOW PRICE*
       380ms access/150k Xfer;64k buffer;
       PhotoCD
    CR-562 (I) * Includes AT I/F.............$239.00
       340ms access/300k Xfer/64k buffer;
       PhotoCD

Texel DM3028 (I) SCSI........................$359.00
       240ms access/335k Xfer/64k buffer;
       PhotoCD

Teac CD-50 (I) Dbl. spin SCSI................$359.00
       265ms access/365k Xfer/64k buffer;
       PhotoCD; MPC

Toshiba 3401B (I) Dbl. spin SCSI.............$379.00
       200ms access/330k Xfer/256k buffer;
       PhotoCD

    Other models available. I also carry over 350 CD-ROM disc titles
  for your pleasure, education and reference.
                                              Charlie


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From: JONATHAN ROLFE                         Number: 10320
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/17/93 12:32p
Subj: QSL                                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Naturally, when I got off the phone yesterday, the UPS truck pulled up!
Thanks for taking the time to check the order, and the fast service at
your end!

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From: CLINT MORTON                           Number: 10321
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/17/93  8:49p
Subj: Cd Drive                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like to trade some stuff for a rom drive.  I have the following,
    a plc with 422 comm
    a rs422 card
    a fiberoptic rs232 extender
    I/O cards for the plc
    and some other junk.
                                  Clint Morton

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10322
  To: RICHARD JOHNSON                          Date: 12/16/93  2:11a
Subj: CD SPEED                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Does anyone know of a program that will show the speed of a CD drive? All the
>ones I have are for HDs and won't do "network" drives. Thanks.

 Have you tried the Novell disk speed tester program?
 It OUGHT to work on "network" drives, though you can't do the WRITE testing
part (for obvious reasons)....


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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 10323
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/16/93 11:59p
Subj: 7 Bay SCSI Cases                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

7 Bay SCSI Cases for Sysops!..These cases will handle up to 7 half-height 5.25
size CD-ROM drives or HD drives. Comes with complete cabling. Made in USA $250.
Available thru GroupWare!..
For more information
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409 1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX 

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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 10324
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/17/93  6:03p
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices11/23/9                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 On 12-14-93 Mike Shannon wrote to Richard Carter... 
 
 MS> That's very impressive, but please exercise caution:  These wild-eyed 
 MS> and 
 MS> frenzied backpatting episodes can sometimes result in multiple 
 MS> fractures to 
 MS> the forearm.  Please consult a physician before continuing.  8) 
 MS> 
You made a statement, I responded.  The above wouldn't be a threat 
of physical harm would it? 
 
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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 10325
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/17/93  6:18p
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices12/17/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>ComputerHelp is Happy to Announce We Are Currently< 
>Offering EMS Professional Software's CRDOM Discs!!!< 
 
If you are PC-based or Windows-based and Have Liked the 
Shareware & Utility CDROM Discs on the Market, We Believe 
You Will Really See Added Value in These Discs!!!  "WE DO!!!!" 
 
EMS Has Changed Their Format Recently and Made Their Discs 
Much More User Friendly.  We Don't Want To Take Too Much 
Space Here, But the EMS 2-Disc Set is $59.95 + shipping. 
 
If You Are Curious About the Discs, We Have a SPECIAL For YOU!!! 
We Have Sampler Single Disks (that are 1 rev -- or about 
2 months -- old).  They are the discs only, without the indexes, 
COMPLETELY FUNCTIONAL AND WITH ALL THE DATA!!! 
 
They include utilities and programs covering:  ASM, C, C++, 
AutoCAD, Xbase, DOS, Games, Hardware Demos, HomePC, Jokes, 
Multimedia, Netware, ObjectVision, Quick Basic, Paradox, 
Small Business, TrueType Fonts, TurboPascal, Visual Basic, 
Windows, and a PC Products Database. 
 
Personally, this disc has been a real resource for us in our 
computer room.  (Previously, it was just the way they handled 
their indexing that bothered us.)  They have changed that in the 
Current versions.  Remember, the Full-Fledged current versions 
are Currently $59.95 from EMS; Our Sale Price is $49.95. 
THESE VERY SPECIAL SINGLE DISC SAMPLERS ARE ON SALE FOR $12, 
INCLUDING SHIPPING! 
 
There are about 150 of these Sampler Single Discs currently available. 
 
As always, If You are Not Happy With Any Product from Us, We 
Will Take it Back within 30-days of date of purchase.  Your only 
expense would be freight/shipping. 
 
"WE WANT YOU HAPPY AND TO COME BACK THE NEXT TIME YOU ARE IN THE MARKET!" 
 
Thanks, 
Richard Carter 
___----------------------      ------------------      -------------------- 
 
 
            Current Pricing for Walnut Creek CDROM Disc's 
 
          from:     ComputerHelp 
                    PO Box 385041 
                    Bloomington, MN  55438-0041 
               Ph:  (612) 890-4750, (800) 514-7071 
                    Fax:  (612) 894-9411 
 
(as of 12/09/93) 
          SIMTEL MSDOS               $13.00 
          CICA MS Windows            $13.00 
          Hobbes OS/2                $13.00 
          Aminet Amiga               $13.00 
          Garbo MSDOS/Mac            $13.00 
          Sprite OS                  $13.00 
          QRZ! Ham Radio             $13.00 
          ADA Programming            $18.50 
          GIGA Games                 $18.50 
          La Coleccion               $18.50 
          Nova for NeXTs             $18.50 
          Project Gutenberg          $18.50 
          Source Code                $18.50

          X11/GNU                    $18.50 
          Info-Mac                   $25.50 
          CUG Library                $23.50 
          Linux                      $23.50 
          Libris Britannia           $34.00 
          Space and Astronomy        $18.50 
 
                  ***SPECIAL***SPECIAL***SPECIAL*** 
     =>>> Order 3 at once and take an Extra $1 Off of Each <<<= 
        (Limited Time Offer!!! Print and enclose this ad with 
                your order.  Good through 12/31/93!!!!) 


Shipping:      1-3 discs in one order = $4.50, 4-10 discs in one 
order = $6.50. 
          (MN residents add 6.5% sales tax).

 
          All prices subject to change without notice. 
          "Yes Mildred, we do take personal cheques!" 
 
All orders by pre-payment, (you want cheap prices....); send to 
address above.  Call with any questions.  (Sorry, we don't accept 
credit cards:  they add to the 
    price and we want to be able to offer you the CHEAPEST PRICES 
   AVAILABLE.  "Thank You for Your Support!!!    -  Richard Carter 
                             ORDER FORM 
 
YES!  Please accept my order for: 
 
  Quantity          Item:         Price Each:   Extension: 
     : 
            SIMTEL MSDOS          $13.00 
            CICA MS Windows       $13.00 
            Hobbes OS/2           $13.00 
            Aminet Amiga          $13.00 
            Garbo MSDOS/Mac       $13.00 
            Sprite OS             $13.00 
            QRZ! Ham Radio        $13.00 
            ADA Programming       $18.50 
            GIGA Games            $18.50 
            La Coleccion          $18.50 
            Nova for NeXTs        $18.50

            Project Gutenberg     $18.50 
            Source Code           $18.50 
            X11/GNU               $18.50 
            Info-Mac              $25.50 
            CUG Library           $23.50 
            Linux                 $23.50 
            Libris Britannia      $34.00 
            Space and Astronomy   $18.50 
            EMS 1-Disc SAMPLER    $12.00 ** 
                                  SubTotal:     $ 
                                  TX (MN Only)  $ 
                                  Shipping      $ 
                                  TOTAL:        $ 
 
Shipping: $4.50 for 1-3 discs, $6.50 for 4-10 discs, Call for 
           quantities larger than 10 discs. 
           ** No Shipping Charges on the EMS Sampler! 
          If you have an existing FedEX acct and want to charge to 
           it,  "No Problem!" 
          We Do COD, but only with FedEX, and by Cashiers Cheque 
           (it's expensive, but on large orders it might be worth 
           looking at). 
 
Sales Tax:     MN Only!!  6.5% 
 
We DO Accept Cheques (Personal & Business held for 5 days to clear; 
     Money Orders & Cashiers Cheques ship same day as in stock). 
 
Call With Any Questions, "We Are Here to Serve Your Needs!" 
 
Please Ship TO: 
  Name: 
  Street Address: 
  City:                      State:         Zip: 
  My Home Phone is:  (      ) My Work Phone is:  (      ) 


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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 10326
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/17/93  6:18p
Subj: CDROM Disc Prices12/17/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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   (In case we have a question [or 2] regarding your order) 
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 10327
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/18/93  2:33a
Subj: HOT CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            C R E A M     O F     T H E     C R O P    I I

OVER 654 MEGS New Shareware   4987 Files Dated '93'  Dup Checked
Virus Checked                 Files.BBS Support      Multi Line Discription
Mouse Support Menu            14Megs Prog Code       Plus MORE !!!
Only 200 prog Older Than April '93' - 10% Dup to NO10, Pier3, Software Gold

                               PRICE - $25.

ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263   FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: MICHAEL GUIDRY                         Number: 10328
  To: RICHARD JOHNSON                          Date: 12/18/93  8:15a
Subj: Cd Test Program                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

There is a program on The Animals! disc called cdtest.exe that will test
cd speed.  the command line is:

cdtest.exe  "filename"

It reads the file and gives you the speed results. It tests sequential
read data rate and random access read data rate. The results it gave me
were appropriate for my drive, so it apparently works.



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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 10329
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 12/18/93  1:40p
Subj: News: cd-rom ring busted                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

=============================================================================
* Forwarded by Dave Reed (1:344/79)
* Area : CDROM (FidoNet: CD-ROM Technical Support)
* From : Danny Tong, 1:125/217 (Tuesday December 14 1993 18:52)
* To   : All
* Subj : News: cd-rom ring busted
=============================================================================
Edited from a 12/10/93 newswire:

Federal officials have announced the first software piracy case involving
counterfeit CD-ROM, programs. Authorities dismantled C-88 International Corp of
Fremont, CA for importing bootlegged discs from Hong Kong and packaging them
with personal computers.

There were about 900 counterfeit CD-ROM discs and 18,000 software manuals. The
counterfeit discs included popular games, encyclopedia and desk reference
titles from Groliers Inc, The Software Toolworks, and Lucasfilm Games. They
were to be sold as if they had been distributed by The Software Toolworks. Some
of the discs were defective, the packaging was shoddy and the packages on some
of the products were misspelled.

Computer software piracy has been a growing problem in recent years. Some
estimates put the losses to American software producers at $1B annually.
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Hello Ismail!

Just thought you'd be interested in this.  Be careful!


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 * Origin: The CrossRoads BBS * Ephrata, WA * (509)246-0548 (1:344/79)
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From: JAMES PARMER                           Number: 10330
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94  7:26p
Subj: PRICE LIST                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                            CD-ROM Price List       updated 01/12/94
LTL Products * P.O. Box 734 * LaGrange, Ga 30241 * voice (706)884-2352

9000 Sounds                    20  MacMillian Dict. Children OEM    18
Airbrush Profolio              31  Mayo Clinic (OEM)                21
American Vista Atlas           26  Mega Media #1                    18 
Am. Bus. Phone Dir. W/zip      25  Mega Media #2                    18
America's Premier Shareware    14  Microsoft Bookshelf 93 MPC OEM   38 
Amsoft (ham radio sh'ware)     25  Mixed Up Mother Goose (OEM)      17
Animals-zoo (MPC) (OEM)        19  Monster Media 93 #2              23
Art Appeal- Business           23  Multimedia Animals Ency. MPC     24
Art Appeal-Educ & Leisure      23  Nature Graphics                  17
Art Appeal-Gov & Industry      23  Night OWL 10                     29
Arthurs Teacher Trouble-MPC    23  Night Owl Games                  19
A.S.P. (Sh'ware prof. assoc.)  19  Night Owl Graphics               24
Bibles & Religion              12  OS/2 Box                         20  
Cd Powerbox #2                 18  Our Solar System                 12
Classic Cars                   23  P.C. Sig 13                      17
Computer Reference Library     12  Pier 3                           26
ColorMagic PC/MAC              24  Places to Play                   27
Color Magic OEM                21  Precision Mapping                61
Cookbook U.S.A. Jr.            18  Profone 93 (7 disc set)          76
Dagger of Amon (OEM)           23  Publish It 2.0                   23
Dare, Bluff or Die             25  Publisher's Dream Disk           26
Dictionaries & Languages       12  Publisher's Paradise             20
Dinosaur Adventure OEM         19  Publisher's Paradise Pro         32 
Dr. Games  #2                  15  Publisher's Backgrounds          30
Dr. Music  #2                  15  Publisher's Platinum             17
Dr. Windows #2                 15  Resource Library-Audio           14
Eco-Quest  (OEM)               23  Resource Library-Graphics        14
Ency. of Sound                 12  Resource Library-Multimedia      14
Fantazia Fonts                 24  Sci-Fi Games & Trivia            21
Fingers for Windows OEM        23  Seventh Quest OEM                34
Fingers for Windows            36  Shareware 93 vol-2               20 
Flowering Plants               23  Shareware  Explorer (4 disc)     38 
Games 93                       24  Shareware Overload Trio          20
Games Platinum                 18  Shareware Studio #3              15
Gardening                      13  So Much  Shareware 93            23
Grolier's Ency.  ver6 MPC OEM  38  Software Jukebox                 20
Hacker Chronicles              27  Software Vault 3 (gold)          18
Ham Radio 3.0                  12  Space Adventure OEM              19
Home & Office Legal Guide      12  Space  Shuttle OEM               22
House  of Games #2             16  Straight From Heaven             18
Icons/Wallpaper & More         25  Tech Arsenel                     20
Kodak Photo CD                 16  Too  Many Typefonts              12
Kodak Photo CD w/Processing    29  Unix                             22
Lan Master                     21  U.S. History OEM                 25
Landscapes                     23  U.S. / World Atlas OEM           18
Language Discovery             22  Window Master                    19
Languages of the World OEM     21  Windoware                        13
Learning Heaven                18  Win Platinum                     17
Learning Lotus 1-2-3           21  Windows 93                       21
Learning Windows 3.1           21  World Atlas 4.0 OEM              18
Ledgend of Kyrandia (OEM)      23  
                                   
Caddies 4.75 Qty. discounts available
We accept cashier, company, personal checks, money orders
Shipping $4 up to 5 CD's, .50 each additional - COD add $5
Cannot accept credit cards at this time
Allow 7 days for checks to clear. Prices are U.S. funds 
Adult titles available - Send a copy of photo I. D. along with request

... LTL Products (706)884-2352
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From: ROBERT CHAN                            Number: 10331
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94  3:59p
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE 4 SALE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Creative Labs EXTERNAL CD-ROM drive .......... $125

 300ms access, 150Kb/Sec transfer rate.

 This is the external single speed CD-ROM drive that hooks up to your
 SB-Pro or SB-16.  It's in excellent condition, with all cables, and
 manuals, but was replaced with a faster drive.  If you're interested,
 leave me mail or call me days at (916) 277-2604.



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From: MICHAEL GUIDRY                         Number: 10332
  To: BRAD WARTMAN                             Date: 01/15/94  1:15a
Subj: Adult Cd-rom Discs                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 13 Jan 94, Brad Wartman stated to Gary Mullett:

BW>GM>BW>2 adult CD-ROM disks for sale:
BW>GM>
BW>GM>BW>        Perversia Galore
BW>GM>

What's this disk?  I've never heard of it before.


... User Friendly: Never having to say - "I read the manual."
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From: JULIE STRIETELMEIER                    Number: 10333
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94 11:37a
Subj: Adult CDroms                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a 3 disc set of adult cdroms. This set also comes with a bbs door so
that you can put it up on your bbs. It's by Profit Press. GIFs, Movies, Games,
and stories.
Asking $50 for entire set.
Internet address: julie@cel.cummins.com
FidoNet address:  1:2205/6


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From: SEAN CREIGH                            Number: 10334
  To: MR. HOMIE                                Date: 01/15/94  4:41p
Subj: Adult CD-ROM's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi,
 
I have been wanting to get rid of my Giffy Gold. I'd sell it for $25 including
shipping. Let me know if you are interested.
                                   Sean

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From: SEAN CREIGH                            Number: 10335
  To: JOHN LUNDY                               Date: 01/15/94  4:46p
Subj: Adult CDrom's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JL>         2) L.A. Strippers, runs in DOS, full motion video
 JL>         3) 101 Sex Positions Pt.2, runs in dos, full motion video
How much do you want for the LA Strippers?

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From: ANDY BRICK                             Number: 10336
  To: RICHARD PEEK                             Date: 01/15/94  3:10p
Subj: CD Rom for Trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a disk version of Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis. That's about all I have
that's worth trading for. If interested please reply. Thanks

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From: CHRIS COCOZZO                          Number: 10337
  To: JOHN LUNDY                               Date: 01/15/94  4:28p
Subj: 386dx40                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting JOHN LUNDY to ALL <=-

Hi John.  I was wondering if you remember what speed cache ram you
put in the opti 386dx40 board that I bought.  I think the problems I was
having with it were because the cache ram was too slow.  So far it seems 
that they are 50ns SRAM's.  I just want to confirm this before I buy new stuff.

Thanks,
Chris C
... Taglines are irrelevant. You will be assimilated into the Blue Wave.
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From: WESLEY CHEW                            Number: 10338
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 01/15/94 12:59p
Subj: MITSUMI INTERNAL  CD                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 > Mitsumi single speed internal model. In the the box with all docs 
 > and
 > controller. Perfect.
 > 
 > $150 plus shipping, COD is $5.

The Double speed Mitsumi is currently being sold for 197 bucks at
Best Buy with 16bit controller!

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From: JOHN LITTLE                            Number: 10339
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94  8:56p
Subj: Adult CD Wanted                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for an adult CD that meets the following specs:
1) Must be BBS ready
2) Must be R or X rated - no XXX!
3) All the GIFS should be owned by the CD-ROM manufacturer, no copyright
questions about any of the pics
4) Must be a full CD-ROM, not 100 megs, not 300 megs, but 550-650 Megs.
5) All the GIFS must be high quality, no EGA, etc.

Anyone know of such a CD-ROM or two or three?

John Little - netmail 1:259/532 or leave a message here.

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From: DAVID RYDER                            Number: 10340
  To: CHRIS CONKLIN                            Date: 01/15/94  2:19a
Subj: RE: SEEDY 6-PAC $99                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


CC´ I have been rapidly adding new titles to my stock so have not compiled a
  ³ new catalog as of this time.  Plan to do so within the next week however.

    Please send me one when they are ready.

CC´ Alot of new and exciting titles are now available, and I still aim to
  ³ offer them at or below anyone's prices!

CC´ Give me a call if you are looking for anything in particular, as I may
  ³ already have it in stock....

    I was looking for a copy of Hacker Chronicles, and Night Owl 11,
    and a friend was looking for a copy of the 1994 Mega Movie (?) disc.


			David.
 Entered Jan 14,94 from Mississauga, Ontario.    rn.1063@rose.com
   
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From: DAVID RYDER                            Number: 10341
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  2:19a
Subj: Night Owl 11                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


    Night Owl 11 is apparently to begin shipping on January 24th.

    Is anyone offering any pre-release pricing?

    Leave me a message here, or r/o ->CRS on Rime CD-Rom.


			David.
 Entered Jan 14,94 from Mississauga, Ontario.    rn.1063@rose.com
   
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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 10342
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  9:48p
Subj: Canadian CD Catalogue                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thank you.  Your response has been overwhelming regarding our price
list!  As you know our listing is available on Internet via zipped file
or by ground mail on floppy.  If you have placed your request and still
have not received it, it's due to the fact that we've been working on an
"Electronic Catalogue" version.  (There's that crazy Canadian spelling
again, eh?) This incorporates a proprietary cataloging program which
will allow you to not only get a full description of each of our 1000
CD-ROM titles, but will also permit you to order directly from the
program via mail or modem.  It should be completed by the end of next
week!  Your requests will be filled immediately, so keep smiling!

If you would like a copy of our "Electronic Catalogue" please feel free
to request it here, or by phone or fax at (905) 830-1615.

Thanks again!

Hayden Bradshaw
HRB Computer Services
14 Hollis Crescent
Holland Landing, Ontario
Canada L9N 1E7
(905) 830-1615
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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 10343
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/15/94 11:51a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
JR>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
JR>If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
JR>CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)44k
JR>DESCRIPT FREQ: descript.zip   (about 800 cd-rom disc descriptions)70k
JR>        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
JR>    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
JR>Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
JR>P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
JR>Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

JR>--- MsgToss 2.0c
JR> * Origin: "If you can't find it, call config.sys!" 216-296-2244 (1:157/479)
 Please send me a catalog at:
        Sam Figueroa
        Sam's Software
        Rt 2 Box 2453-A
        Manchester, TN 37355
                                        Thanks

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 10344
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 01/15/94 11:55a
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

BC>Was interested in reselling some of your stuff.  Is there any way I might
BC>could get a dealer price list or a phone number to talk to someone about it?
BC>Thanks...  Or you could call me at 615-356-1967 or send me all literature at
BC>the following address...:
BC>                                Bryan Cotter
BC>                                Creative Computer Consulting
BC>                                710 W. Meade Dr.
BC>                                Nashville, Tn 37205

BC>Thanks again...

BC>--- FMail 0.96â
BC> * Origin: Micro Creations - A Step Beyond!  (615) 352-4342 (1:116/111)
 Can u tell me what the Busty Babes cd looks like, the one thats is
 going for so much or the one that has the controversy on it. I have a
 friend that has one and doesn't know the version number
                                Sam Figueroa

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 10345
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 01/15/94 11:58a
Subj: Bbv2 For Trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SR>Will trade you BBI v3 for FAO 3..

SR>Scott rAley
SR>___
SR> X MegaMail 2.10 #0:

SR>--- Maximus 2.01wb
SR> * Origin: The Combat Zone(TM) (301) 863-5312 (1:2612/10)
 I will trade ya FAO 3 for that Busty Babes CD, I can trade ya any of
 the 2 FAO's for it! Let me know if we have a deal!

                        Sam Figueroa
                        Sam's Software
                        Rt 2 Box 2453-A
                        Manchester, TN 37355
                        (615) 728-7383

                                                        Sam Figueroa
Thanks

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 10346
  To: ROB O'DELL                               Date: 01/15/94 12:02p
Subj: FAO and shareware                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RO>I need the following discs:

RO>FAO 2 and FAO 3  (or comparable discs)
RO>Pier 3 and Night Owl 10.1

RO>I also have some discs I'd like to sell/trade:

RO>Microsoft Small Business Consultant/Stat Pack
RO>So Much Stareware (adult)
RO>Giffy Gold (amature adult)
RO>Hobbes OS/2 Nov. 1992


RO>--- WM v3.10/93-0552
RO> * Origin: Computer Alley BBS - Monroe Net Host -  (1:2380/100)
 Rob,
        I have all 3 FAO discs and am willing to trade some of them for
        something? I also have Pier 3, but I'm gonna keep it for awhile
        longer! I also have for trade, CDROM of CDROMS w/Karaoke, Secret
        of Monkey Island, Nautilus CD, and Wizards 6-Pak! Let me know
        what ya got to trade!
                                        Sam Figueroa

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 10347
  To: JOHN LUNDY                               Date: 01/15/94 12:03p
Subj: Adult CDrom's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>       I have a couple of adult cdroms I'm looking to sell or trade,
JL>leave a message here with any offers or netmail to 1:124/6006 and I'll
JL>get back to you.

JL>        1) New Wave Hookers, runs in Windows, full motion video
JL>        2) L.A. Strippers, runs in DOS, full motion video
JL>        3) 101 Sex Positions Pt.2, runs in dos, full motion video

JL>Please, no one under 18....

JL>                      -= John =-


JL> * QMPro 1.51 * Why can't women put the toilet seat back up!?

JL>--- GOMail v1.2 [92-0345]
JL> * Origin: The MindLink BBS Lewisville, Tx  24K V.FC (1:124/6006)
 What are you looking for in trade?
                Sam Figueroa

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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 10348
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94 12:40p
Subj: ShareWare OnLine #3 Preorders!          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    !!! NOW ACCEPTING PREORDERS !!! 
 
ShareWare OnLine 3 will soon be released!  We are now 
accepting preorders.  The preorder price is $34.95 and 
as always you get FREE shipping to your door for 
preordering.  Registered users of ShareWare OnLine will 
be receiving your special order instructions by mail soon. 
 
This new disc will contain over 600 MEGS of new software. 
Many programs come directly from the author so the dupe 
rate will be low to other CDs.  The CD will be fully BBS 
ready with full multi-line file descriptions.  A master 
directory of BBS file descriptions will be included as 
well as description index files in each directory. 
 
We have updated our retrieval software to run faster 
and install easier.  You may tag, copy, view, unzip, 
and view pictures directly from the retrieval software. 
 
You may preorder your disc by telephone or send your 
order by mail to the address listed below.  Credit cards 
and checks are not cashed until we ship. 
 
Your complete satisfaction is GUARANTEED with ShareWare 
OnLine #3. 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
Orders Only: 800-768-7929   Information: 812-442-0110 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 10349
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94 12:40p
Subj: User's Choice Windows CD-ROM            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

             ***** New Release From CMS ***** 
 
         ** The User's Choice Windows Archive ** 
 
This disc contains 674 MEGABYTES of Windows (TM) and Windows 
related software!  This brand new archive contains a well 
rounded collection of everything you can imagine for Windows. 
 
This CD is BBS ready with multi-line file descriptions included 
for use with PCBoard, Spitfire, and other BBS software.  This 
CD is filled to near capacity.  Below is an idea of what is 
included on this new CD. 
 
For a detailed file listing call the CMS support BBS at 
812-898-2561 and look in file area #3.  Available first call. 
HST 14,400 online. 
 
Now shipping!  $29.95 + shipping. 
 
     MASTER DIRECTORY INFORMATION FOR: User's Choice Windows Archive 
 
  DIRECTORY NAME     # OF FILES     TOTAL DIR SIZE    AVERAGE FILE SIZE 
------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
 
    \BMP                 597          52,045,856            87,179 
    \DEMOS               107          36,699,344           342,985 
    \DRVRS               188          35,598,120           189,352 
    \DT                  320          19,347,468            60,461 
    \MISC1               442          49,591,180           112,197 
    \MISC2               471          44,340,448            94,141 
    \SND                 709          28,458,186            40,138 
    \TRUETYPE            410          15,188,178            37,044 
    \UTILITY1            353          31,131,692            88,192 
    \UTILITY2            326          29,949,432            91,869 
    \UTILITY3            281          17,233,922            61,331 
    \WAV                 462          24,777,100            53,630 
    \WINDOWS1            368          26,157,714            71,081 
    \WINDOWS2            234          17,390,996            74,320 
    \WINDOWS3            127           9,027,428            71,082 
    \WINDOWS4            254          16,199,350            63,777 
    \WINDOWS5            377          37,847,440           100,391 
    \WINGAMES            451          25,957,276            57,555 
    \WIN_A_D             499          33,426,814            66,988 
    \WIN_E_H             239          16,486,184            68,980 
    \WIN_I_L             143          10,912,175            76,309 
    \WIN_M_P             301          22,537,884            74,877 
    \WIN_Q_T             337          20,480,492            60,773 
    \WIN_U_Z             494          40,391,104            81,763 
---------------------------- ------------------- ----------------- 
 
T O T A L S:           5,945         674,175,808            77,877 
 
 
Order TODAY from: 
 
    CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
                TELEPHONE: 812-442-0110 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 10350
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94 12:40p
Subj: CD-ROM Software Bundles                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Look below for some great CD-ROM Software Bundles from CMS. 
All discs are IN STOCK ready for shipment. 
 
               ***** SINGLE CD PRICING ***** 
 
Software Tool Chest - $29.95   Physical Therapy Adult   - $29.95 
ShareWare OnLine #2 - $39.95   Adult Reference Library  - $37.95 
GameWare Collection - $29.95   SoundWare Collection     - $39.95 
Storm-2 Adult       - $22.95   Storm-3 Adult            - $24.95 
User's Choice Windows $29.95   A.P.L. Adult             - $37.95 
Digital Dreams 1    - $24.95   Swimwear                 - $19.95 
Digital Dreams 2    - $28.95   Software Treasure Chest  - $24.95 
 
              ***** BUNDLED CD PRICING ***** 
 
User's Choice Windows          SoundWare Collection 
ShareWare OnLine #2            GameWare Collection 
    $44.95                         $49.95 
 
ShareWare OnLine #2            Storm-3 Adult 
SoundWare Collection           A.P.L. Adult 
GameWare Collection            Adult Reference Library 
User's Choice Windows          Physical Therapy Adult 
Software Treasure Chest        Storm-2 Adult 
Software Tool Chest                $119.95 
    $139.95 
 
                               User's Choice Windows 
Software Treasure Chest        ShareWare OnLine #2 
ShareWare OnLine #2            A.P.L. Adult 
    $39.95                     Storm-2 
                                   $69.95 
 
Storm-2 Adult                  Storm-2 Adult 
Storm-3 Adult                  Storm-3 Adult 
    $39.95                     A.P.L. Adult 
                                   $69.95 
 
Adult Reference Library        A.P.L. Adult 
Storm-2 Adult                  Physical Therapy Adult 
Physical Therapy Adult             $54.95 
    $69.95 
                               ShareWare OnLine #2 
A.P.L./User's Choice           A.P.L. Adult 
    $44.95                         $44.95 
 
CMS accepts Visa & Mastercard, check, M.O., and COD orders. 
$5.00 standard shipping on any order.  These prices are in 
effect for a short time only.  Get your orders sent TODAY! 
CMS does accept your trades!  PUBLISHERS: Call us to trade 
your titles for ours! 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
TELEPHONE: 812-442-0110 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 10351
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94 12:40p
Subj: CD-ROM Software Elimination             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   CMS SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING 
                         P.O. BOX 165 
                     SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
                         812-442-0110 
 
                      Updated 01-16-1994 
 
Its a fact.  CMS is overstocked and to make room for the 
upcomming remodeling and expansion of CMS Software we MUST 
LIQUIDATE the following inventory.  Grab any of the following 
discs for $15 each, unless otherwise noted, while supplies last. 
Buy 7 and select one FREE*.  We will hold nothing back until this 
inventory is GONE.  One of some titles and hundreds of others 
but it ALL must go.  Some discs are used and most are new but 
all are guaranteed against defects.  Dealers call now for bulk 
pricing.  You may grab as many as you like and pay only $3 
shipping**.  You may place your order on Mastercard or Visa or we 
will ship your order COD for $5.00 additional.  You may mail 
your order with a personal check or money order to the address 
at the top of this ad.  * Free CD must be $15 or less.  ** A small 
insurance fee is added to each order. 
 
!!! 650+ MEG Shareware CD only $5.95 with any purchase !!! 
 
Barney Bear Goes to School      Physical Therapy Adult ($25) 
675 MEG Windows CD-ROM          1993 Multi-Media Bookshelf ($35) 
Barney Bear Goes to Space       Fresh Arte Clipart 
Magnum Sight & Sound            Audubon's Birds MM ($20) 
American Business Phone Book    Hamware 1993 ($20) 
Software Vault Gold             Pier 3 Shareware 
FontMaster                      Toolworks MM Enyc. 1.5 ($30) 
LaserTax On CD-ROM              Consumer Guide to CD-ROMs 
Clipart Goliath                 Bibles & Religion 
Up All Night Shareware          PC-SIG Version 11 
Black Box Shareware #4          Black Box Shareware #5 
Colossal Cookbook               Career Opportunities 
2000 Pictures CD-ROM    Random House Unabridged Dictionary ($25) 
ShareWare OnLine II             So Much Shareware #2 
Software Treasure Chest         Crossword Cracker 
GameWare Collection             LookUp 9 Digit ZIP Lookup ($25) 
DataBase Made Easy              Swimwear 1993 
Super CD W/Super BBS            AB20 Amiga Archives 
Storm #2 ($20)                  Storm #3 ($20) 
Mother Earth II                 Fightsmart 
Adult Reference Library ($25)   So Much Modem Madness ($20) 
Digital Dreams #1 ($25)         Time Almanac 
Quick Art Clipart               PC Sig Library #10 
Between Heaven & Hell II        Digital Dreams #2 ($25) 
Ham Radio Shareware             Danger Hot Stuff 
Klotski Polish Puzzles          C/C++ Programmers Library 
CAD Utility Library             Adult Picture Library ($25) 
Paolo Galli Portfolio #1 ($20)  Paolo Galli Portfolio #2 ($20) 
------------------------------------------------------------ 
Grab the following titles for only $10.00 each while supplies 
last.  1 of some and 100's of others but all will surely go 
quickly so get you orders in today. 
 
Phoenix Phun & Games            Brain Drain Games 
Oldies But Goodies Games        Bed & Breakfast Photo Tour 
Mirror Mirror                   Reel Clips 
Futura Games                    Let's Play (Games) 
Variety Store (Games)           Taxprep 
Selectware Software             MPC Wizard 
PC Gameroom                     Middle East Diary 
 
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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 10352
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  4:45p
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 




 Have Busty Babes Volume II (newest release in this series) available
 in trade for another adult CD; looking for Mystique of the Orient,
 Southern Beauties, American Girls or similar "quasi-recent, soft-type"
 CD's.

 To those who replied to this with
 trade offers a few days ago, I
 apologize for not getting back with you.  I accidently wiped out the
 mail packet with all my personal mail, and don't know who it was that
 made offers.  Please repost if you're still interested.

 Thanks in advance.



 
)\/(ark 
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From: DAVID SAVILLE                          Number: 10353
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  8:49a
Subj: CD Catalog                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I appreciate you sending me that catalog


David Saville
34248 Via Santa Rosa #c1
Capistrano Beach, CA 92624


Thanks

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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 10354
  To: JEFF BLYSTONE                            Date: 01/14/94 11:43p
Subj: Re: CD's for sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 14 Jan 94 01:07am, Jeff Blystone wrote to All:

>     I have 2 CD-ROM's to sell:
>          The American Civil War (Quanta Press)

Hello Jeff, I have the 93 Night Owl Graphics disk I'll trade you flat out for
the American Civil War. I'll hold it till you reply.. I'll ship it 2nd
Postal if you agree. Thanks.. Ken

Ken Matthews
5415 Third st.
Verona Pa 15147
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From: ROD WILEY                              Number: 10355
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/15/94 10:36a
Subj: cd rom catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Joe. I would like a catalog of cd software titles. Please send it too...
Rod Wiley 
210 2nd Ave West
Oskaloosa, IA. 52577
Thanks in advance.

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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 10356
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 01/15/94  6:58p
Subj: RANDOM HOUSE DICTIONARY                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 > The lowest price on this item is from Price/Costco (Price Club and
 > Costco have merged).

Thanks Arnie, We'll be going for 10lbs of cheese in the next few weeks so will
look for the package.. 73's and again thanks.

Clint

P.S. the CD 9000 Sounds is worth the money! <g>

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From: KEITH HALLOCK                          Number: 10357
  To: CHARLIE JARMAN                           Date: 01/11/94 11:45p
Subj: CD-ROM discs                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 CJ> We also carry over 350 CD-ROM disc titles for your pleasure,.......

Would be pleased to receive a price list, Charlie.

Regards Keith - 113 Chastilian Rd Dartford Kent DA1 3LN United Kingdom
                                Tel/fax +44 (0)322 291488
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From: KEITH HALLOCK                          Number: 10358
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/11/94 11:48p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************

Yes please, Joe.

Regards Keith - 113 Chastilian Rd Dartford Kent DA1 3LN England
                       Tel/fax +44 (0)322 291488
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From: KEITH HALLOCK                          Number: 10359
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/12/94  6:41p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
 JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.

Right you are Joe :-

K W Hallock 113 Chastilian Rd Dartford Kent DA1 3LN England
                 Tel/fax +44 (0)322 291488

Cheers - Keith
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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 10360
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  3:29p
Subj: Os/2                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm debating whether or not to get Os/2...I don't know much about it 
could someone fill me in on its advantages over windows??
                C-Ya,Chip Slate


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From: EDDIE MONEY                            Number: 10361
  To: ROB O'DELL                               Date: 01/15/94  1:28p
Subj: FAO and shareware                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Rob!

Thursday January 13 1994 15:49, Rob O'dell wrote to All:

 RO> I also have some discs I'd like to sell/trade:

 RO> Hobbes OS/2 Nov. 1992


Bob is that a 1992 disk or 1993? if 1993 I would like to get it from you? what
do you want for it, if 1993?
Thanks'


Eddie

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From: JIM NEUMILLER                          Number: 10362
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  8:16p
Subj: Flight Simulator Toolkit CD from Spectrum Holobyte  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do any of you dealers out there have it yet?  I saw it in Software City
for over $70....anyone do better???

Jim


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From: HAROLD TAYLOR                          Number: 10363
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94  5:31p
Subj: Handy Scanner                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I don't know wether this is the place to offer this item.

I have for sale a Handy Scanner, DFI,  HS-3000+, including the 

User's Manual. I had to remove this scanner from my system

because of IRQ conflicts.

Specs: Hand held scanner, DPI resolutions: 400/300/200/100

thirty levels of grey.

The imgages scanned are *.tiff files.

Right now the best offer seems to be the right way  to

upgrade my system.

I do need to upgrade to a larger and faster hard drive...

Tigre.........

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 10364
  To: ROB O'DELL                               Date: 01/15/94  6:44a
Subj: FAO and shareware                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <13 Jan 94  15:49:59>, Rob O'dell (1:2380/100) writes:

 >Giffy Gold (amature adult)
What do you want for this (cash)? 

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From: ROBERT HARRIS                          Number: 10365
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94 11:59a
Subj: cd-s                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  I have the following for trade or sale.

  Secret of Monkey Island.
  Loom
  Mantis Fighter
  Darksun --  Shattered Lands
  software toolworks Encyclopedia
  SCI-Fi collections  (gifs, music, sounds, games,much more)
  7th Guest
  Dune

  Open for sale or trade.  Call me 912-994-5702 or rep here.


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From: WAYNE DEJULIA                          Number: 10366
  To: RICK PEDLEY                              Date: 01/14/94  7:11a
Subj: Flame? anybody seen it??                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I hope Flame is not dupes from Volcano, Storm 3, So Much Stareware...As I have
those disks already...and you can keep Busty Babes 2...1/4 of the disk is
shareware fonts and junk....very disappointing....DON'T ORDER NOVA COLLECTION
2..the images are MOSTLY poor resolution,..Nothing Kinky...and the women are
the pits....Anybody have a good x rated cd to recommend!

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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 10367
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94 11:03a
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROMs                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

.

Can anyone please give me an objective comparison
of the following three discs?

(1) OS/2 Companion  (Tropical Publishing, 11/93)

(2) Hobbes OS/2     (Walnut Creek, 10/93)

(3) OS/2 Box        (Damar Enterprises, 9/93)

                                       - Arnie :+}

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 10368
  To: MIKE FURST                               Date: 01/15/94  7:31a
Subj: Adult CD Trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MF> Good to do business!!

Nice talking to you on Friday.  I will send your disc either on Sat if
the corner grocery is open or on Tues at the latest.
GO ARMY.......
Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 10369
  To: ROB O'DELL                               Date: 01/15/94  7:35a
Subj: Re: Adult CD Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bob, sorry but FAO 3 is gone, but I still have Seedy Rom Seventh Heaven
and Adult Reference Library to trade.

Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 10370
  To: DOUGLAS BELL                             Date: 01/15/94  8:12a
Subj: Used disks for sale/trade               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DB>DH. Local Girls - (R-Rated pics) == $10
DB>DH. Island Girls - (R-Rated pics) == $10

DB>DH. Willing to trade for any other discs I don't already have.
DB>DH. 817-428-1219

How about Seedy Rom Seventh Heaven or Adult Ref Library for both of the
R Rated discs above?

Randy Neuner


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From: VICTOR KALYUZHNY                       Number: 10371
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  8:42p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Internal Toshiba 3101, new, made for IBM $100.00
Internal Toshiba 3301, used a couple of times $100.00

External Apple CD-ROM 150, new, $140.00

Spece - I beleive all 3 are 350-380ms, 150 KB/sec.

(617-444-3752 EST.
   
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From: PATRICK SIGLIN                         Number: 10372
  To: BORIS OSCADIW                            Date: 01/14/94 11:29p
Subj: my order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I placed an order about a week ago. I have yet to receive my cd-roms. I think
you said to expect it on Wednesday.

I ordered the os/2 cd, educational, ham, creme of the crop II


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From: MIKE BILOW                             Number: 10373
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/14/94  6:29a
Subj: INFO-MAGIC                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Does anyone here carry the Info-Magic or Yggdrasil line of Unix-oriented
>disks, such as Info-Magic "Internet Standards"?

 BF>  Not regularly, but I can special order anything Info-
 BF> Magic carries for you.

Not to be rude, but so could I.  What would your prices be?

-- Mike

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From: CHARLEY WEBB                           Number: 10374
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  3:15a
Subj: Looking For CDU-535                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for anyone selling sony CDU-535 CD-Rom drives.
Leave a message here with the price.


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From: JOSE VISBAL                            Number: 10375
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94 11:06p
Subj: Want CD DOT Tentacle                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Just want to ask anyone if they would like to sell their copy of
Day of the Tentacle....? for CD-Rom...
for a reasonable price....
leave me a message here and how much you can let it go for..!!
thanks later....

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From: JOSE VISBAL                            Number: 10376
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94 11:12p
Subj: Want DoT Tentacle                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Just want to ask anyone if they would like to sell their copy of
Day of the Tentacle....? For CD-rom...
for a reasonable price....
leave me a message here and how much you can let it go for..!!
thanks later....

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 10377
  To: KEITH SHEEHAN                            Date: 01/14/94  9:07p
Subj: OS/2 2.0 CD-ROMS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Keith!

Tuesday January 11 1994 00:32, Keith Sheehan wrote to All:

 KS> I wish to find out from you users out there which of the currently
 KS> available OS/2 2.x dedicated CD-ROMs is the best? I want to have an
 KS> unbiased opinion from those who actually use them. Any help would be
 KS> GREATLY appreciated. Thanx in advance.

I personally prefer the OS/2 Box... and it seems to be popular among the OS/2
users in our local user group.

Later,

Dave

... Work harder!  Millions on welfare are depending on you!

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From: GREG COBB                              Number: 10378
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 01/15/94  5:06p
Subj: Western Digital 420MB IDE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


>GC>* Check out what Joe Landrith was going off to All about *
>GC>
>GC>>          Western Digital 425MB IDE
>GC>>
>GC>>      425MB, 12ms, 128k Cache, 3.5", HH
>GC>>
>GC>>  LOW PRICE >>   *** $345 ***   << LOW PRICE
>
>GC>>  1-800-471-3282
>
>GC>
>GC>Dude, does this use a CD?  If not, you hit the wrong echo.
>
>Pretty good price though!!
>

No kidding! It just teases me though.  Deals like that don't come around when I
have the funds. :)

Later
-G-


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From: GARY RANCHUK                           Number: 10379
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94 12:00a
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Catalog Available            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like a catalouge as well. I am a CNet SysOp with teh ONLY CD-Rom in
Windsor, Ontario (CANADA), and I am looking for more CD titles. Please send the
catalouge to the following address:

G. Ranchuk
345 Elm Ave.
Windsor, Ontario
N9A-5H2, CANADA
 
Thanx..
 
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From: BLAKE BARR                             Number: 10380
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  7:27p
Subj: OS/2 2.1 CD-ROM Edition                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello!
    I currently have a copy of IBM's OS/2 v2.1 on CD-ROM. It has both 3.5" &
5.25" disks and then of course the CD-ROM disc.  This copy has never been
installed and has not been registered. Comes complete with everything -
Disks/disc, books, quick-reference card, registration card, warranty
information, etc.  This is brand new. Asking $95 firm.

                                    Blake Barr
                                    FidoNet 1:395/43

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 10381
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94  9:06p
Subj: Aldus PhotoStyler for win 2.0           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Aldus PhotoStyler for windows version 2.0.... the latest... on CD Rom.
This is the SE version
Its complete, never registered.

$75 takes this great program! + P&H



Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 10382
  To: KORENE CLARK                             Date: 01/15/94  4:52p
Subj: Erotic Encounters - 1                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KC> IG> Does anybody know where I can get the file listing for the
KC> IG> CD
KC> IG> Encounters 1, with the file descriptions? If there is a BBS
KC> IG> that has
KC> IG> this,I would appreciate the phone number.
KC> 
KC> Good luck in finding one. The disc says to get the file
KC> listings
KC> from your  local BBS, but the author of the disc never
KC> followed
KC> through and created it.  If you do find it it will be a
KC> miracle
KC> because about 78% of the files are  corrupt. I know of three
KC> different people that took on the task to create file  listings
KC> and they all gave up. One guy in Guam got half before
KC> declaring
KC> his  sanity was worth more.

Yea, that was basicly how I fealt about it too, that was why I was wondering if
anybody else had it. Thanks for the reply though.  Didn't know the author never
created one, just assumed I couldn't find it because nobody wanted to take the
rist of puting the CD online. 

-Sunjester

 

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 10383
  To: JOYCE ZWEEDYK                            Date: 01/15/94  4:45p
Subj: Carmen san diego                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Either send a check, or give an address for COD!
later...


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 10384
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/14/94  1:25a
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
JR> CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)44k
JR> DESCRIPT FREQ: descript.zip   (about 800 cd-rom disc descriptions)70k
JR>         Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
JR>     FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
JR> Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
JR> P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
JR> Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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JR> (1:157/479)



I would like a copy of your catalog


vito a servideo
Amiga Central
2741 ne 24 street
Pompano bch, fl  33064

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From: G. LARRY WEBB                          Number: 10385
  To: CLIF DANIEL                              Date: 01/15/94 10:05a
Subj: BOOKSHELF/ENCARTA                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

how about $60 including shippping for the 93 encarta and the 92 bookshelf
windows oem? lemme know....would like to sell both at once... see ya!

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From: ANDY BRICK                             Number: 10386
  To: TONY GRANATOWSKI                         Date: 01/16/94 12:45a
Subj: T7g & loom trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you're still interested in trading the Ultima 6/Wing Commander 1 cd-rom for
Loom give me a call at 904-478-8554 or leave a message here. I'd prefer a call
cause we may be able to trade more than just CD's. Thanks

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From: DAVID HILL                             Number: 10387
  To: MIKE STEFFEN                             Date: 01/15/94  5:23p
Subj: Order Shipped                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Mike,

Just wanted to let you know I rec'd. your check today. (1-15)

I will place the two disks into the mail on Monday. Will insure them at $25
and apply the remainder of the $4 to get the fastest delivery time.

Post me when you get them.

Later.....


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From: SHAWN HARDENBROOK                      Number: 10388
  To: WESLEY CHEW                              Date: 01/16/94  6:32p
Subj: Re: MITSUMI INTERNAL  CD                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Wesley Chew who babbled to Ronald Leon <=-

 > Mitsumi single speed internal model. In the the box with all docs 
 > and
 > controller. Perfect.
 > 
 > $150 plus shipping, COD is $5.

 WC> The Double speed Mitsumi is currently being sold for 197 bucks at
 WC> Best Buy with 16bit controller!

The Best Buy's in the Dallas area sell this drive for $179!  I have the
original as well and bought it for $199 at Babbages 2 years ago.



... Pardon Me, But Would You Have Any Blue Poupon?
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From: SCOTT WILLIS                           Number: 10389
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 01/16/94  9:16p
Subj: for sale/trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

if you are still interested in gabriel knight cd,i will trade it for rebel
assault.let me know what you want to do

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10390
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94 11:32a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)44k
DESCRIPT FREQ: descript.zip   (about 800 cd-rom disc descriptions)70k
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10391
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94 11:32a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
                        ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $110.00 30day warrantee
Refurbished  NEC Model 36       CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee

                    ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee

                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
14.4 Power supply..................$10.00 ea.
external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
Shipping (drives)$25.00 for up to 2 drives,$40.00 for 3-4 drives.

                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
offering all
refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit, to be
shipped
upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30 days for
receipt of
your refurbished drive.

                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariat.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10392
  To: ROBERT MOORE                             Date: 01/15/94  2:37a
Subj: Re: Cd-drives plus                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Robert Moore to Joe Rinehart <=-
Robert,

Joe is taking a hard-earned day off, and I'm doing his mail for him while
he's gone.

 RM> We are trying to put together 16 CD ROM drives on our BBS with Novell
 RM> 3.12.  The NEC 36 CD ROM drives that you are selling, the SCSI card for
 RM> those drives, is it supported by a driver that comes with Novell?  If
 RM> you have the manufacturer and part number for the card I could look it

The controller we are using is the Trantor Systems T130.  Trantor also has
other models available.  I really can't tell you if this particular model is
Novell compatible, but I'd guess that one of their models is. (Dammit, Jim;
I'm an accountant, not a technician!)  You'll probably want to look it up.
No phone number is listed on the box, but Trantor's address is
                              5415 Randall Place
                           Fremont, CA  94538-3151

 RM> up myself.  How many NEC 36 CD ROM drives can be connected to one card?
 RM> How many cards can be put in one machine? How much would you charge us

These I can answer.  Each T130 can support up to seven SCSI devices (in this
case, the NEC 36's).  The controller considers itself a device.  The number of
controllers is limited only by the
number of available slots.

 RM> if we bought 8 drives at a time?

Due to the above information, you'll most likely want to buy seven drives at
a time.  If you want to do that, I'll let seven go in a batch for $850.

Keep in mind that we are selling faster than we can refurbish, so it most
likely will be a few weeks.  Personally, I like these drives.  They're
caddiless, external, efficient, and they match my wallpaper.

Thanks for asking.  Hope to hear back soon.

The oft mentioned, yet rarely heard
Carl "R" Knorr


... Not tonight, dear.  I have a modem.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10393
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  6:07a
Subj: !discounted Fedex shippin               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    It pleases us to announce that due to our growing shipping volume,
FedEXpress has become our preferred courier.  USPS Priority was our
preferred
method, however,  recent performance such as week-long delays and
damaged
jewel cases made us look elsewhere. We contacted all the other couriers
to
see who would offer our customers the best deal.  FedEX won the bid by
allowing us to offer their economy service, which is as close to
guaranteed
two-day service as anyone will offer, for only $3.00 additional over
USPS
priorty rates.  Of course, we will continue to offer your preferred
shipper,
as we have accounts with all of the major couriers.

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10394
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  6:07a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
                        ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $110.00 30day warrantee
Refurbished  NEC Model 36       CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee

                    ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee

                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
14.4 Power supply..................$10.00 ea.
external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
Shipping (drives)$25.00 for up to 2 drives,$40.00 for 3-4 drives.

                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
offering all
refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit, to be
shipped
upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30 days for
receipt of
your refurbished drive.

                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariat.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: MIKE STEFFEN                           Number: 10395
  To: MR.HOMIE                                 Date: 01/16/94  9:53a
Subj: Adult CD trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I've got Physical Therapy...what do you have to trade?
Mike

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From: MARCIAL MORENO                         Number: 10396
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94 10:44p
Subj: Nightowl 10 sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   ******> NIGHTOWL 10 <*******

                    $25.00 + 1.50 Shipping for
                       First class shipping.
                   Add $0.40 for second delivery.

                       While Supplies Last.

                  Call (800) MEGA-ROM 5pm-10pm PST.
                     VISA / MASTERCARD excepted.


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From: DONALD WEN                             Number: 10397
  To: KEITH LOONEY                             Date: 01/16/94  2:06a
Subj: Nec driver                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the reply, and you for your business.  I'll check around...get it,
check around, :-)...and put more fun in check writing.


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From: JOHN COOK                              Number: 10398
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/16/94  8:00p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send a catalog to:

John H. Cook
SYSOP- Guilford Program Exchange
PO BOX 4801
Greensboro, NC
27404

Thanks.


... DOS never says "EXCELLENT command or filename"...
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From: JOHN COOK                              Number: 10399
  To: RAY DENALLI                              Date: 01/16/94  8:00p
Subj: Florida Statutes                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Try THE EXCHANGE
Cris Ferrell
1-800-832-0722

It was in his most recent flyer. Sorry I can't quote the price, as I
passed it on to my brother.

I've dealt with this source for several years. Good person, and great
service. Transhipped replacement for a defective ANIMALS, just on a
phone call. Check it out.



... File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N)
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 10400
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 01/16/94  1:22a
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RL>San Diego Zoo: The Animals... $25
RL>Our Solar System... $25

Ron,  I am interested in these CD's, could you please tell me a little
more about them?                        Thanks,  Shane
 þ SLMR 2.1a þ 

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From: JAMES CLEVENGER                        Number: 10401
  To: STEVE KENNEDY                            Date: 01/14/94 11:37p
Subj: Re: 3DO?                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Re: Ever hear of 3D0?
 
Yes, I've heard of it and have been monitoring the developments.  I got to test
one extensively today.  Do not pay $700 for one - they are reportedly available
through mail order here in the US for $549.  Don't ask me where - you'll have
to look for yourself.  Also note: Sanyo will be producing a 3D0 player that may
come out by Autumn 1994, and it will be cheaper than the Panasonic model
according to my sources.  Also be aware that SEGA is scheduled to release a
totally new 32-bit RISC-processor w/CD-ROM based console late this year.  Early
reports indicate that the SEGA machine will be significantly better than the
3D0 and will have list price near $300.  If you are a big-time game player, you
may find it useful to delay any purchases for the time being as the market is
really heating up with several CD-ROM based game consoles - you may see the
software for them on sale in this conference in the near future too.
 
Re: Rumor of CD-ROM to PC connection?
 
I'm not sure what you mean by that - CD-ROMs are in lots of computers these
days.  CD-ROMs were available on computers before the "kiddie console" market
discovered them.
My impression is that CD-ROM based game machines seem very slow, with maddening
delays for "loading..." but I suppose that applies to desktop computers as
well.  Even at 2x speed, you can't expect a CD-ROM game to offer the instant
gratification that a cartridge based game gives.  If you're more interested in
music generation and other more advanced "computer-like" applications, I'd
advise that your money would best be spent on a better computer rather than a
dedicated game console.  It just depends on how well PC upgrade boards develop
in comparison to the "kiddie consoles" I guess.
:-)


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 10402
  To: ALAN EVANS                               Date: 01/15/94  5:19p
Subj: User's Choice Windows CD                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Alan!

Wednesday January 12 1994 23:03, Alan Evans wrote to All:

 AE>              ***** New Release From CMS *****

 AE>           !!!!! THE PERFECT CHRISTMAS GIFT !!!!!

You're a little late.  Better luck next year.

Later,

Dave

... First Hillary, then Gennifer, NOW US!!!

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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 10403
  To: AMY MOODY                                Date: 01/16/94  6:43a
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Amy - I'll write the check today and put it in the mail.  Jerry


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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 10404
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  2:07p
Subj: PHOTOSHOP Mac CD Ver.                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        

        PHOTOSHOP 2.5.1 DeLuxe CD ROM Version for Mac

        Shrinkwrapped.

        MacWarehouse charges $549

        $399 or Best Offer

        412-761-9090

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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 10405
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  2:10p
Subj: MS Bookshelf DOS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        

        MS BOOKSHELF 1991 for DOS

        $25 delivered

        412-761-9090

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From: TED KIM                                Number: 10406
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94 10:36p
Subj: Rebel assault                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Rebel Assault for sale or trade.  $37 or if you have any of these
games I will consider trade.  Comanche Overkill(disk or CDrom), Darkside
of Xeen(CDrom).


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From: DARREN JAGGERS                         Number: 10407
  To: ROBERT CHAN                              Date: 01/16/94 10:01a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE 4 SALE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interetsed in a cd-rom drive (external). Do you have the card with
external plug also.

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From: DARREN JAGGERS                         Number: 10408
  To: ROB O'DELL                               Date: 01/16/94 10:07a
Subj: NEC CDR-36 Drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am intertested in one of your drives, buy the way can they be run
externally. I am new to cd-roms and the computer I have has no more bays.

... This copy of GEdit has been unregistered for 49 days.
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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 10409
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 01/16/94  6:49p
Subj: JPEG CD's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -SR> I have an adult cd, amatuer models that has 24 bit TIFF and GIF on it.

Ok.  Let's do a trade.  Send it on to my following business address and I'll
send A.P.L. out on receipt of it.

                Creative Computer Consulting
                710 W. Meade Dr.
                Nashville, Tn 37205

If you have any questions, call me at 615-356-1967.  Would also like to get a
number from you as well...  Thanks...

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From: MICHAEL CHOWNING                       Number: 10410
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/16/94 11:36p
Subj: RE: PIONEER 6-DISC CHANGER WAN          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boris, I am looking for a pioneer 600A 6-disk changer, used in good shape, or
new but at a good price?  Do you have anything available?  
                         Michael Chowning
                         Peace Connection BBS (1:2260/180)
                         (606) 439-1734 (BBS)
                         (606) 436-2533 (VOICE)
Need the controller card also of course, and drivers.


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From: BILL LUSCOMBE                          Number: 10411
  To: BRAD WARTMAN                             Date: 01/08/94  5:15p
Subj: Re: Adult CD-ROM discs                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> On 05 Jan 94  17:12:00 Brad Wartman did profusely salivate to All <=-

 BW> 2 adult CD-ROM disks for sale:

 BW> General Appeal & Nudes

 BW> Perversia Galore

 BW> In great condition, with each disk containing over 3,000 images in
 BW> BBS-compatible format.  $35 each or both for $65. If interested,

Hey Brad. I will take Pervasia Galore from you for $30 US.
How do you want to do this? Also, any problems shipping it across the
border to B.C.?
I can send you a money order (US funds of course) if you let me know the
total cost (shipping, etc.)
:-) Bill

... Happiness is seeing your ex-wife on a milk carton.
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From: LEE HINSON                             Number: 10412
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  7:41a
Subj: New Files                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

File: FNEWSB01.LZH (21,088 bytes) (03-01-94)
Area: Fido News [These are new files found on Hometown BBS]
Desc: FidoNews 11 01 1993

File: NODEDIFF.A53 (52,851 bytes) (10-09-93)
Area: NodeDiff's & Nodelist [These are new files found on Hometown BBS]
Desc: FidoNet NodeDiff for day 253

File: NODEDIFF.A74 (85,723 bytes) (02-10-93)
Area: NodeDiff's & Nodelist [These are new files found on Hometown BBS]
Desc: FidoNet NodeDiff for day 274

File: SBLOX.ZIP (119,587 bytes) (01-11-93)
Area: NodeDiff's & Nodelist [These are new files found on Hometown BBS]
Desc: tetris type game

File: ELDAT401.LZH (330,483 bytes) (03-01-94)
Area: SDS Frontdoor & Related Files [These are new files found on Hometown 
                                     BBS]
Desc: EchoList Raw Data Files (01/01/94)

File: ELIST401.LZH (477,764 bytes) (03-01-94)
Area: SDS Frontdoor & Related Files [These are new files found on Hometown 
                                     BBS]
Desc: EchoList Conference Reports (01/01/94)

File: ELKEY401.LZH (45,993 bytes) (03-01-94)
Area: SDS Frontdoor & Related Files [These are new files found on Hometown 
                                     BBS]
Desc: EchoList Area Tag and Key Tables (01/01/94)

File: ELRUL401.LZH (259,120 bytes) (03-01-94)
Area: SDS Frontdoor & Related Files [These are new files found on Hometown 
                                     BBS]
Desc: EchoList Conference Rules Repository (01/01/94)

File: FIDONET.NA (29,142 bytes) (03-01-94)
Area: SDS Frontdoor & Related Files [These are new files found on Hometown 
                                     BBS]
Desc: List of active echos, FidoNet North American Backbone

File: FIDONET.NO (2,554 bytes) (03-01-94)
Area: SDS Frontdoor & Related Files [These are new files found on Hometown 
                                     BBS]
Desc: List of temporary echos, FidoNet North American Backbone

File: FIDOSTAT.NA (6,393 bytes) (03-01-94)
Area: SDS Frontdoor & Related Files [These are new files found on Hometown 
                                     BBS]
Desc: Change Status, FidoNet North American Backbone


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From: ROB O'DELL                             Number: 10413
  To: RAY MATTHEWS                             Date: 01/15/94 11:19a
Subj: FAO and shareware                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> * in a message to All <13 Jan 94 15:49> Rob O'dell wrote:
->
->  RO> I also have some discs I'd like to sell/trade:
->  RO> Giffy Gold (amature adult)
->
->     How much for this one, or would you trade for Amateur Models?

How old is the Amature Models?  Is it all 'R' rated?  I was hoping on
trading it for a FAO disc.

Rob


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From: DICK WALSH                             Number: 10414
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  9:08a
Subj: PC SIG CD ROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PC SIG has issued another PCSIG 13 CD ROM    Price 
$39.95    If you are a registered pay use of thier BBS the price will be
$29.95 and if you are upgrading from PC Sig 12 then the Price will be 
$19.95      Hope you all take advantage of the pricing.   Wonder what the
dealers will do with this one.   Incidentally you can order this directly
and they just mail it to you    No shipping charges.    <Dick>

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From: MICHAEL DAUM                           Number: 10415
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  7:54p
Subj: GAMES                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for good prices on CD ROM games.

Specifically looking for:

Leisure Suite Larry 6

Maniac Mansion

Indiana Jones:  Fate of Atlantis


Open for other games like the above.

Leave a message here or via Internet

toltbbs!michael.daum@uunet.uu.net

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From: JEFF NEWMAN                            Number: 10416
  To: RICK SHELTON                             Date: 01/16/94 11:44p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol 1 For Sale!         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RS>  DVDI> Is there a way to outwardly tell the collector's edition from any
 RS>  DVDI> "normal" Busty Babes Volume 1?  My disc is red over
 RS> the top third with
 RS>  DVDI> "BB" and "Volume #1" in silver within the red.

 RS> Yes I think so, If it has the Bam-Bam Ltd on the left it

 Rick, will trade you a copy of the seventh guest with the video and
 transfer ownership. Will also throw in an unopened copy of December
 1993 Multimedia magazine with its 650 meg of demos, etc.

 ... Procrastination: What I plan on if I ever find time

-Jeff NOPCCCC

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 10417
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/16/94  6:11a
Subj: Re: Modem madness                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>Yes we do Randy and it is bbs ready with the files.bbs format.
BO>As for the price, we have it for $25.

My order will be coming shortly.  THanks

Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 10418
  To: WAYNE DEJULIA                            Date: 01/16/94  6:42a
Subj: Flame? anybody seen it??                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WD>I hope Flame is not dupes from Volcano, Storm 3, So Much Stareware...As I ha
WD>those disks already...and you can keep Busty Babes 2...1/4 of the disk is

Care to trade Flame or So Much Stareware for either Adult Reference
Library or Seedy Rom Seventh Heaven?

Randy Neuner


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From: RICHARD POUNCY                         Number: 10419
  To: CHARLEY WEBB                             Date: 01/16/94  6:58a
Subj: Looking For CDU-535                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Charley Webb wrote in a message to All:

CW> I am looking for anyone selling sony CDU-535 CD-Rom drives.
CW> Leave a message here with the price.

I am also looking for a sony CDU-535 but will sell mine if the price is right.
What will you offer?


Peace,
           Richard

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From: RICK AURAS                             Number: 10420
  To: JERRY ZELLER                             Date: 01/16/94 12:10p
Subj: CD ROM FOR TRADE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Rick, What year is the encyclopedia?  Jerry
 > 
 > 

Jerry, the copyright date is 1992 so I will have to say it is a 92 edition. 
Let me know if you are interested.  It is great!!  I love mine.  Rick

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From: HERB ZWIRN                             Number: 10421
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  5:31p
Subj: CD-Catalog wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>I am interested in one copy of each catalog from a vendor. I do not want
 MB>to be placed on a mailing list as I will make decisions based on the
 MB>first catalogs and the pricings of others including shipping. Please
 MB>send one copy to...
 
 ME TOO!
 
 Herb Zwirn
 35 Lake Julia Dr. No.
 Ponte Vedra Beach, FL. 32082
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From: HERB ZWIRN                             Number: 10422
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  9:31p
Subj: test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

record.exe test
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    SFMail Qwk v3.3
 
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From: JOHN LUNDY                             Number: 10423
  To: SEAN CREIGH                              Date: 01/16/94  8:05p
Subj: Adult CDrom's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  JL>         2) L.A. Strippers, runs in DOS, full motion video
->  JL>         3) 101 Sex Positions Pt.2, runs in dos, full motion vide
-> How much do you want for the LA Strippers?

Sorry Sean,

         Already sold em...
                           Thanks,
                                  John

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From: JOHN LUNDY                             Number: 10424
  To: CHRIS COCOZZO                            Date: 01/16/94  8:10p
Subj: 386dx40                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hi John.  I was wondering if you remember what speed cache ram you
-> put in the opti 386dx40 board that I bought.  I think the problems I
-> having with it were because the cache ram was too slow.  So far it se
-> that they are 50ns SRAM's.  I just want to confirm this before I buy
-> stuff.
->
-> Thanks,
-> Chris C
->
Well Chris that was a long time ago but I think that is correct..Hope
you get it straightened out.  I did get the name and address of the
place I got the board from:
              Superior Micro Distr.
              709 Lingco Dr. Suite 110
              Richardson Tx, 75081
              Phone (214) 783-2566
              Teddy Luu Manager

  -= John =-

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From: JOHN LUNDY                             Number: 10425
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 01/16/94  8:11p
Subj: Adult CDrom's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> JL>       I have a couple of adult cdroms I'm looking to sell or trad
-> JL>leave a message here with any offers or netmail to 1:124/6006 and
-> JL>get back to you.
->
->  What are you looking for in trade?
->                 Sam Figueroa
->
Sorry Sam,
           Already gone...
                             -= JOhn =-

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 10426
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/17/94  1:15a
Subj: NEW NIGHT OWL                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E

* Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous Versions
* All Zipped Files      * New Viewer     * 60% Files Released last 90 days
"Night Owl 11. "  offer's over 5,000 all new files and supports for areas
such as Windows, OS/2, Games, Fonts, Ham Radio, Lan, Business and more !
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
   Best Of The Best - Night Owl 11. + Cream Of The Crop II - $50.00

ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: TERRY MCDILL                           Number: 10427
  To: JOHN LUNDY                               Date: 01/17/94  2:42a
Subj: Re: Adult CDrom's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting JOHN LUNDY to ALL <=-

 JL> I have a couple of adult cdroms I'm looking to sell or trade,
 JL> leave a message here with any offers or netmail to 1:124/6006 and I'll
 JL> get back to you.

 JL> 1) New Wave Hookers, runs in Windows, full motion video
 JL> 2) L.A. Strippers, runs in DOS, full motion video
 JL> 3) 101 Sex Positions Pt.2, runs in dos, full motion video

John,

I have Nightwatch Interactive which I will trade for either New Wave Hookers 
or LA Strippers. If you're not interested in trading, I can cough up some cash.

I can be reached at 1:280/310.2 or on the Internet at terry@tyrell.net.

Regards,

Terry


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From: TERRY MCDILL                           Number: 10428
  To: ELLEN COTTON                             Date: 01/17/94  2:47a
Subj: RE: Re: JFK CDRom                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Ellen Cotton to Kenneth Roach <=-

 EC> I purchased JFK Assassination: A Visual Investigation from PC Zone
 EC> for $40. 

I've thought about purchasing this CD. What are your thoughts about it?

Regards,

Terry


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From: WILLIAM WISE                           Number: 10429
  To: RICHARD LEIGHTON                         Date: 01/15/94  5:43p
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Joes send a catalog to me.
William Wise
1261 34th. st. nw
Winter Haven, fl. 33881


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From: WILLIAM WISE                           Number: 10430
  To: ROBERT BRIGGS                            Date: 01/15/94  5:49p
Subj: Hitachi 3600 cd rom drive               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thos e Hitachi 3600 cdrom. are they dual speed or what?


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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 10431
  To: VICTOR KALYUZHNY                         Date: 01/16/94 11:07p
Subj: Re: Cd-roms For Sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Victor Kalyuzhny to All <=-

 VK> Internal Toshiba 3101, new, made for IBM $100.00
 VK> Internal Toshiba 3301, used a couple of times $100.00

Will you take $150 for both of the above ??
 
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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 10432
  To: ROBERT HARRIS                            Date: 01/16/94 11:07p
Subj: Re: Cd-s                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Robert Harris to All <=-

 RH> I have the following for trade or sale.

 RH> Secret of Monkey Island.
 RH> Loom
 RH> Mantis Fighter
 RH> Darksun --  Shattered Lands
 RH> software toolworks Encyclopedia
 RH> SCI-Fi collections  (gifs, music, sounds, games,much more)
 RH> Dune

How about all the above for $75 ??  What year is the encyclopedia ??  Let
me know if this is acceptable...thanks !!
 
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From: T. CURTIS                              Number: 10433
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 01/16/94  9:47p
Subj: For Sale or Trade: Man Enough           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Chris!

04 Jan 94, Chris Snyder writes to T. Curtis:

 CS> I'll trade you rebel assault for it, or offer $35 shipped.

  Fiddle! I just bought RA.. Oh, well.. It's a big box, would you mind $40
instead? It'll cost me a bit more to ship.. Thanks!

T.

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From: T. CURTIS                              Number: 10434
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 01/17/94  4:13a
Subj: For Sale or Trade: Man Enough           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Ryan!

05 Jan 94, Ryan Denke writes to T. Curtis:

 RD> I will offer Women of Venus + $10 or $30 total for Man Enough.

  What is WoV? Thanks!

T.

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From: LARRY ADAMSON                          Number: 10435
  To: DANNY BRIGANCE                           Date: 01/16/94  5:26a
Subj: Re: cdrom's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Danny, I'll offer $10 each for Cookbook Heaven and Bible Library plus shipping.
Call (303)426-9062 if interested.

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From: LARRY ADAMSON                          Number: 10436
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 01/16/94  6:23a
Subj: Re: phonebook cd                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Chris, if you get no other offers , I'll give you $50 for the phonebook set.
Call (303)426-9062 or Net 1:104/427 if interested.

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From: JULIE STRIETELMEIER                    Number: 10437
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94 11:37a
Subj: Adult cdroms                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a 3 disc set of adult cdroms. This set also comes with a bbs door so
that you can put it up on your bbs. It's by Profit Press. GIFs, Movies, Games,
and stories. Asking $50 for entire set. Internet address: julie@cel.cummins.com
FidoNet address:  1:2205/6


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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 10438
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  2:07p
Subj: Photoshop mac cd ver.                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 

        PHOTOSHOP 2.5.1 DeLuxe CD ROM Version for Mac

        Shrinkwrapped.

        MacWarehouse charges $549

        $399 or Best Offer

        412-761-9090

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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 10439
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  2:10p
Subj: Ms bookshelf dos                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 

        MS BOOKSHELF 1991 for DOS

        $25 delivered

        412-761-9090

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 10440
  To: CHIP SLATE                               Date: 01/17/94  5:00a
Subj: OEM                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <13 Jan 94  15:54:00>, Chip Slate (1:3663/301) writes:

 >Can someone please tell me what the !@#$% *OEM* means!!!>..
 >                Thanx,in advance.....ChIP SLATE
Original Equipment Manufacturer, in this case you are probably refering to 
"bundled" software. These disks are normally just less some of the fancy 
packaging. 

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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 10441
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 01/17/94  4:57a
Subj: CDROM Drives                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Lee,
        I've sent both echomail and netmail to you about your Busty Babes
CD's.  Please respond if you will.  Would like to get the info I requested.
Thanks...

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From: JEFF WOERTZ                            Number: 10442
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/17/94 10:26p
Subj: AVI Files on CD-ROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can anyone suggest an INEXPENSIVE CD-ROM disc that has nothing but MS
Video .AVI files on it ?  Thanks !  Jeff Woertz, Warminster, PA
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From: STEVE KRAISLER                         Number: 10443
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 01/17/94  6:20p
Subj: Censorship                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



RL>You've got it backwards Chris. The politically correct crowd are the
RL>liberals who approve of this stuff.  You know, the pro gay, pro lesbo gang.
RL>The gang who says "if it feels good, do it." The gang who says that people
RL>should be able to do anything they want with no responsibility of their

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
RL>actions. The gang who os presently fighting for a UCLA Berkley
student's RL>right to walk around butt naked on campus because it's his
freedom of RL>expression." THAT is politcal correctness.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

RL>Ron in Tampa
RL>73163.124@compuserve.com



You mean that you wouldn't protect my right to buy a CD of women who
walk around butt naked on  campuses?



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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 10444
  To: DAVID RYDER                              Date: 01/17/94  6:04p
Subj: Night Owl 11                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DR>     Night Owl 11 is apparently to begin shipping on January 24th.

 DR>     Is anyone offering any pre-release pricing?
 
        *****   PRE-ORDER NIGHTOWL 11  *****
 
  PCJ Computing is now accepting orders for the new
  Nightowl 11 CDROM disc.  4,378 Files - 650 Meg.
 
               OUR  PRICE  -  $28.95
 
  We should be shipping during the week of 1/24/94.
      Orders - 615-339-0235  FAX 615-479-1047
   We also have most of the latest shareware CDs.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 10445
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/17/94  6:09p
Subj: PRE-ORDER NIGHTOWL 11                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        *****   PRE-ORDER NIGHTOWL 11  *****
 
  PCJ Computing is now accepting orders for the new
  Nightowl 11 CDROM disc.  4,378 Files - 650 Meg.
 
               OUR  PRICE  -  $28.95
 
  We should be shipping during the week of 1/24/94.
      Orders - 615-339-0235  FAX 615-479-1047
   We also have most of the latest shareware CDs.

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From: STEVE KELLY                            Number: 10446
  To: MICHAEL PHUONG                           Date: 01/16/94  6:37a
Subj: NEC CDROM DRIVE WANTED                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Michael!

13 Jan 94 22:18, Michael Phuong wrote to All:

 MP> I looking for used NEC CDR-74 CD-ROM Drive.  If you have one for sale,
 MP> please contact me at (800) 297-6905 or reply here.

I don't have the player but I do have a new (still in the blister wrap)
Interface kit that you will need for that player. If you find the player and
need a card let me know and I'll make you a heck of a deal.

-= Steve =-

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From: MARIO LERMITTE                         Number: 10447
  To: ALLEN DIETZ                              Date: 01/15/94 10:35p
Subj: Used CD-ROM discs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hallo Allen,

 AD> Mario, Sorry, I forgot to include my address in the last message.
 AD> Mail me a money order for $25 in U.S. Funds and the Bible Library
 AD> is yours.  Mail the money order to:

Money is on the way. I wait.... :-)

   greetings,
    Mario                  Fidonet: 2:292/500.34@Fidonet
                           Internet:mario.lermitte@Infoboard.be

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From: DAVE WILGA                             Number: 10448
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/17/94  9:09a
Subj: Visualbasic v3.0 pro                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FOR SALE:

Visual Basic v3.0 PROFESSIONAL.   $200 OBO
Includes all Manuals, Disks, Propaganda, etc...



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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 10449
  To: LOUIS DIGGS                              Date: 01/17/94  5:04p
Subj: cdroms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>> Eric, can you give me a bit of background on the Space and Astronomy
>> disc. I  have a Macintosh, will it work on it.  Thanks for your reply.

    Most of the disk is Images, so as long as you can view .gif files,
you should have no problem with that... About 1/2 the programs are for
the Mac so you should have no problem finding something to do!

Eric


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From: CRAIG NYLUND                           Number: 10450
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/17/94  1:32p
Subj: seedy-rom 6 pax                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Who has the Seedy Rom 6-Pax Collectors Edition 4-sale?  How much is such a
critter or what would be a good price if I find this elsewhere?  Thanks. 
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From: CRAIG NYLUND                           Number: 10451
  To: JULIE STRIETELMEIER                      Date: 01/17/94  1:53p
Subj: Adult CDroms                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I have a 3 disc set of adult cdroms. This set also comes with

Is this FAO 1,2,3?  If not what is it?  I might be interested. 
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From: CRAIG NYLUND                           Number: 10452
  To: ROB O'DELL                               Date: 01/17/94  2:15p
Subj: FAO and shareware                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I need the following discs:
 > FAO 2 and FAO 3  (or comparable discs)

If not to late.  I have FAO2.   Still interested? 
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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 10453
  To: WESLEY CHEW                              Date: 01/17/94 10:14a
Subj: MITSUMI INTERNAL  CD                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WC> > Mitsumi single speed internal model. In the the box with all docs
WC> > and
WC> > controller. Perfect.
WC> >
WC> > $150 plus shipping, COD is $5.
WC>
WC>The Double speed Mitsumi is currently being sold for 197 bucks at
WC>Best Buy with 16bit controller!

Are you playing price police are trying to make a point of some sort?


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From: DANNY BRIGANCE                         Number: 10454
  To: ROBIN HARDISON                           Date: 01/17/94 12:14p
Subj: CDROM's                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Robin!

Thursday January 13 1994, Robin Hardison writes to Danny Brigance:

 RH>  I'll take this if you can send it shipped COD for $25.
 RH>  Robin Hardison
 RH>  P.O. Box 1073
 RH>  Jasper, TN 37347

Can it be sent COD to a PO Box number?

Danny

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From: DANNY BRIGANCE                         Number: 10455
  To: JIM KRUSZYNSKI                           Date: 01/17/94 12:17p
Subj: CDROM's                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Jim!

 JK> Danny, I'll take the Bible Library. Leave Info on how to get in touch with
 JK> you.

You can call me any day before noon at (817) 244-3296 so we can make
arrangements.  Thanks....


Danny

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From: RON SALEKER                            Number: 10456
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 01/17/94 11:07a
Subj: Re: Adult CD Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RN> Bob, sorry but FAO 3 is gone, but I still have Seedy Rom Seventh Heaven
 RN> and Adult Reference Library to trade.

 RN> Randy

Randy, would you be interested in selling these and if so how much?? I am
interested.


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From: SCOTT WILLIS                           Number: 10457
  To: LOUIS DIGGS                              Date: 01/17/94  3:38p
Subj: for sale/trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

no,sorry it not mac compatible

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From: WESLEY CHEW                            Number: 10458
  To: SHAWN HARDENBROOK                        Date: 01/17/94  2:03p
Subj: RE: MITSUMI INTERNAL  CD                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >-=> Quoting Ronald Leon who babbled to Wesley Chew <=- 

 >> Mitsumi single speed internal model. In the the box with all docs 
 >> and
 >> controller. Perfect.
 >> 
 >> $150 plus shipping, COD is $5.
 > 
 >WC> The Double speed Mitsumi is currently being sold for 197 bucks at
 >WC> Best Buy with 16bit controller!
 > 
 > The Best Buy's in the Dallas area sell this drive for $179!  I have 
 > the
 > original as well and bought it for $199 at Babbages 2 years ago.

 What's your best price Ron ? A friend of mine is looking for one to
 run his bbs.

 Wes (1.17.94 2:04pm)

 ÍÍ[ I'm locked in a choclate factory, don't send help! ]

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From: THOMAS FAIRRIS                         Number: 10459
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/17/94  2:36p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Joe!

Can u send me a catalog.
Gopher BBS
231 Clyde Vickers Rd
Estill Springs, Tn 37330

                                                                Gopher

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From: RICHARD GOUIN                          Number: 10460
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/17/94 10:00p
Subj: CD-Drives Wanted                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Wanted CD-Drives call and leave a listing on the OIL PATCH BBS at
573-0447 in Norman. Also we want used CD's
Thanks Richard Gouin  SYSOP


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From: SCOTT RUBY                             Number: 10461
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/15/94  7:00p
Subj: PRICE LIST PART 4 OF 4                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to All <=-

 BF> Where in World is Carmen Deluxe     85 
 BF> Where World Carmen Deluxe (OEM)  24 

What's the difference in the OEM for $24 and th $85 version?


 

... Hard work never killed anybody, but why take a chance?
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From: ROB O'DELL                             Number: 10462
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 01/17/94  7:33a
Subj: FAO and shareware                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SF>  Rob,
SF>         I have all 3 FAO discs and am willing to trade some
SF> of them for
SF>         something? I also have Pier 3, but I'm gonna keep it
SF> for awhile

I'd like to get the 3 FAO discs from you..  All I have to trade is:

So Much Stareware (Adult)
Giffy Gold (Adult)
Night Owl 6
Compton's Multimedia Encyclopedia 1991 Edition
Microsoft Small Business Consultant/Stat Pack
Hobbes OS/2 Nov. 1992

If you'd like to do some trading for some of these, or some of these plus some
cash, let me know!

Rob O'Dell
1:2380/100

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From: JACK ADDINGTON                         Number: 10463
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/17/94  2:43p
Subj: !FREE CD CATALOG!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

please send me a catalog

Jack Addington
216 Varsity Estates Link N.W.
Calgary, AB T3B 4C9
Canada

Thanks...
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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 10464
  To: DARREN JAGGERS                           Date: 01/17/94  5:36p
Subj: NEC CDR-36 Drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I am intertested in one of your drives, buy the way can they be run
 > externally. I am new to cd-roms and the computer I have has no more
 > bays.

Darren,
If you have an open slot or somewhere for the ribbon cable to come out oof the
back of your pc then any cd-rom can become an external, you would have to buy a
case that the drive would fit into thou and moving the cd would not be
recommended since you could slice through one of the cables.

                                     Mike Harris

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From: CHARLEY WEBB                           Number: 10465
  To: CHARLIE JARMAN                           Date: 01/17/94  4:55p
Subj: CD-ROM/ CD Discs                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CJ >    CDU-535 (I) Sony bus.....................$275.00
CJ >       340ms access; XA compliant w/opt. kit
According to Sony, these drives have been discontinued because the failed to
meet MPC standards. I have one now I paid $198.00 for complete about 4 months
ago, any chance you can do better on the price?? Radio Shack is selling them
for $219.00 and thats Radio Shack!!!!!


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From: ROB O'DELL                             Number: 10466
  To: DARREN JAGGERS                           Date: 01/17/94 12:33p
Subj: NEC CDR-36 Drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DJ> I am intertested in one of your drives, buy the way can they
DJ> be run externally. I am new to cd-roms and the computer I
DJ> have has no more bays.

Yes, they are external..

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From: ROB O'DELL                             Number: 10467
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  7:29p
Subj: Nec Cdr-36 Drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a few NEC CDR-36 Drives for sale.

SCSI interface (no card)
Portable external
Drop in loading (no caddy needed)
Manual
Power Supply

Refurbished 30 day warranty: $120.00

Untested NO WARRANTY: $30.00 (or offer)

Reply here or netmail to 1:2380/100

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From: CHARLES BEYER                          Number: 10468
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/17/94  8:59p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Joe,

JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories
JR> CATALOG!*************

Could you please send me one too.

Charles Beyer
203 W. Washington St.
Baileyville, IL 61007
(815) 235-7853

Thank you.

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From: CHARLES BEYER                          Number: 10469
  To: ROBERT HARRIS                            Date: 01/17/94  9:28p
Subj: cd-s                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Robert,

RH>   SCI-Fi collections  (gifs, music, sounds, games,much more)

How much do you want for that one?

    Or would you want to trade another CD for it?
    I have ..
    Sample This (A disc of sample programs)
    PC Globe  Pak
    The Wiz-Pak Cd Rom

later

charles,

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From: CHARLES BEYER                          Number: 10470
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/17/94  9:34p
Subj: Cd's Wanted                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Wanted:

Night Owl 2
Night Owl 3
Night Owl 4
Night Owl 5
Night Owl 6
Night Owl 9

If anyone has any of these titles and would like to sell/trade them please
leave me a message.

thanks.

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From: RAY MATTHEWS                           Number: 10471
  To: ROB O'DELL                               Date: 01/17/94  8:41p
Subj: FAO and shareware                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* in a message to Ray Matthews <15 Jan 94 11:19> Rob O'dell wrote:

 >-> * in a message to All <13 Jan 94 15:49> Rob O'dell wrote:
 >->
 >->  RO> I also have some discs I'd like to sell/trade:
 >->  RO> Giffy Gold (amature adult)
 >->
 >->     How much for this one, or would you trade for Amateur Models?

 RO> How old is the Amature Models?  Is it all 'R' rated?  I was hoping on
 RO> trading it for a FAO disc.

    About 1.5 months old, and it is all 'R'. No 'X'. I believe it is also all
1024x768, and there are NO BBS ads.

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From: RICKY PURCELL                          Number: 10472
  To: MICHAEL DAUM                             Date: 01/18/94 12:36a
Subj: GAMES                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike:  I have some games you might be interested in?  Kings Quest VI if not
that want to buy a paintball gun?!   :-D

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From: RICHARD PEEK                           Number: 10473
  To: ANDY BRICK                               Date: 01/17/94 10:21p
Subj: CD Rom for Trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AB>I have a disk version of Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis. That's about all
AB>that's worth trading for. If interested please reply. Thanks
AB>
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Sounds OK to me. Let me know where to send it. Do you have the manuals 
etc.? If so we can make a deal. Write me back here or to my home address:
Richard Peek
104 Buena Vista Cir.
Gadsden, Al. 35901

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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 10474
  To: RICK SHELTON                             Date: 01/17/94  9:54p
Subj: BUSTY BABES VOL 1 FOR SALE!             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Oh jeez, for sure... if I had the money, I would buy it too!!! Damn!  
:)

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From: BOB DAMATO                             Number: 10475
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 01/17/94  9:55p
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You had a CD for sale.... $33.... you know, now that you mention it, I dont
remember the title! Better refresh me....
         \\\//
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From: ANDY BRICK                             Number: 10476
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  9:16p
Subj: Trade?                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the CD Day of the Tentacle. I'm looking to trade it for a copy of Rebel
Assault. Anybody interested, please leave a message in the echo. Thanks.

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From: ANDY BRICK                             Number: 10477
  To: ROBERT HARRIS                            Date: 01/16/94 11:00p
Subj: cd-s                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the Ultima 6/ Wing Commander I cd for trade. I'm interested in the 7th
Guest cd. If interested please leave a message. Thanks

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From: BILL GREEN                             Number: 10478
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/17/94  8:21a
Subj: SONY EXTERNAL CDROM FOR S               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>  One of 2 right - Sony tends to be reliable, but NEC and Pione
> industry performance standards.

Well Brice, I expressed my opinion and you expressed yours but I almost forgot,
you are the ultimate authority on *everything*, aren't you? 

Thanks for taking some of your valuable time to contradict me and have a nice
day....

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From: DAVE MARTIN                            Number: 10479
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/16/94  6:32p
Subj: !Free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR> ********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!************
JR>   For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog.
JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.

        Joe, Please send me a copy of your catalog.

        Dave Martin
        13305 119th Ave NE
        Kirkland, WA 98034-2159


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From: DAVE MARTIN                            Number: 10480
  To: JEFF DAHMER                              Date: 01/16/94  6:39p
Subj: Trade?                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JD> I have an Adult CDROM disk called "Pork-Ware 2". Its over 600 Megs
JD> of .Gif's, .Fli's ans Grasp's (.GL). I'm looking for a new version
JD> of Night Owl, or Night Owl type CDROM, but be newer, with '93 and or
JD> '94 file dates.

JD> Mark Ross aka Jeffrey Dahmer, Sysop, The WarZone BBS.

        Mark,

        Specifically what kind of images are on this CD? (R, X, XXX,
        Lesbo, fat chicks?) I may be interested in either purchasing
        outright or trading Night Owl 10.1 for it.

        -Dave

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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 10481
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  9:40p
Subj: Busty Babies 1 4/sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Busty Babies 1 "the original version"
75 dollars, price includes 2nd mail shipping!
no trades..

ken matthews
412 793 9152
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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 10482
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  9:42p
Subj: Night Owl Graphics 4/sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Night Owl Graphics
22 dollars price includes 2nd day shipping
ken
412 793 9152
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 10483
  To: JEFF DAHMER                              Date: 01/17/94  8:23p
Subj: Trade?                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JD>I have an Adult CDROM disk called "Pork-Ware 2". Its over 600 Megs of
JD>.Gif's, .Fli's ans Grasp's (.GL). I'm looking for a new version of Night
JD>Owl, or Night Owl type CDROM, but be newer, with '93 and or '94 file

I have So Much Shareware 2 I would trade you for this...   Let me know
if you are interested.       Shane
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 10484
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 01/17/94  8:25p
Subj: % CD-ROM Disks                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GE>Sneek Peeks from Sierra ........................  $13

Could you please tell me what is on this CD-ROM, i'm interested...
        Thanks,   Shane
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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 10485
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 01/17/94  4:23p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SS>RL>San Diego Zoo: The Animals... $25
SS>RL>Our Solar System... $25
SS>
SS>Ron,  I am interested in these CD's, could you please tell me a little
SS>more about them?                        Thanks,  Shane

Sure,

SDZ is a comprehensive interactive encyclopedia of animals. MUCH better
than National Geo's. You are shown a map of the SAn Diego Zoo, then you
point and click at what you want to see. Like the primate house or the
reptiles. GREAT sound, photos and videos too. All articles are printable.

OSS is an extensive database of articles and photos of astronomical
bodies. ALL photos are from NASA and/or famous observatories. Thousands of
articles. Thousands of photos.

You can send check or money order for $53.00 and I will ship via priority
mail.

Ron
13590 Fletcher Regency Drive
Tampa, FL  33613-4242

Ph. (813) 978-0527


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From: JOHN MURRISKY                          Number: 10486
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/15/94  9:37p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

joe: send free catalog to:
sysop/johnm.
305 w. magnolia ave.
hanford,ca. 93230

thanks
do you sell CD-rom drives also?

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From: RON JEFFRIES                           Number: 10487
  To: ALAN EVANS                               Date: 01/17/94  2:18a
Subj: Physical Therapy                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Alan ... what can you tell me about the contents of the CD "Physical
Therapy"?  Thanks!
Ron


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From: MICHAEL COON                           Number: 10488
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  5:52a
Subj: Internet Me!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

my board just picked up Internet E-Mail and I'm tryin to learn how to use
it, so if any internet users out there could drop me a line just saying hi I
would apreciate it

Internet Address:

MICHAEL.COON@F127.N324.Z1.FIDONET.ORG

    THANK YOU ALL :>
    

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 10489
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/17/94  6:21a
Subj: Adult discs to trade                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have these discs to trade for other adult discs:

Seedy Rom Seventh Heaven
Adult Reference Library

Randy


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From: AMY MOODY                              Number: 10490
  To: JERRY ZELLER                             Date: 01/17/94  4:21p
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Jerry,

-> Amy - I'll write the check today and put it in the mail.  Jerry

The CD's and manuals will go out in the AM. (Tuesday)  Let me know when it
arrives.

Amy

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From: STEVE KENNEDY                          Number: 10491
  To: JAMES CLEVENGER                          Date: 01/17/94  8:46p
Subj: Re: 3DO?                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting James Clevenger to Steve Kennedy dated 01-14-94 ***
> to test one extensively today.  Do not pay $700 for one - they are 
> reportedly available through mail order here in the US for $549.  Don't
> ask me where - you'll have to look for yourself.  Also note: Sanyo will

Anybody know of a discount mail order 3DO machine?  ALL the shops in Houston
are charging $700.

James - Thanks for the input.  My situation is a piece of software - CPU Bach
from Microprose - that is available ONLY for the 3DO.  Maybe I can find one for
rent?  Also, I should have said 3DO's CD-ROM to PC connection, that is what I
read has been budgeted for development...any news?


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From: JOHN LITTLE                            Number: 10492
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 01/17/94  5:37a
Subj: Bodacious Beauties - New Release        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What is the licencing rate for a 2 node BBS for your BB CD-ROMs?


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From: JOHN LITTLE                            Number: 10493
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 01/17/94  5:41a
Subj: Cd-Rom Drives!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What is your least expensive SCSI (nonproprietary SCSI) CD-ROM 
drive, internal, for BBS use?  And how much for quantity 1, 3, 
and 5?


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From: ADAM BRIAND                            Number: 10494
  To: SCOTT WILLIS                             Date: 01/15/94 11:37p
Subj: for sale/trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SW | i have the new sierra game gabriel knight for sale or    
   | trade.if you would like to trade leave me a list of what  
   | you have   
   |
The cd version right???  If so, I'll give you $25 plus shipping for it.

___
 X JABBER v1.1 X $1. Correct answers: $5. Dumb looks: Free!

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From: LOUIS DIGGS                            Number: 10495
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 01/11/94  9:52p
Subj: CDROM Specials                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Doug, can you tell me if the US/World Atlas, etc, is compatable to the
Macintosh?
Thanks. 
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From: KYLE BROWN                             Number: 10496
  To: CHARLES TYLER                            Date: 01/12/94 12:14a
Subj: REBEL ASSAULT PASSCODES                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>> ERIC OLSON wrote to CHARLES TYLER on 01-10-94 23:16 <<<

CT>Does anyone have the passcodes for all of the levels of Rebel Assaul

        At the spinning LucasArts logo screen:

        Push joystick up and hit the fire button.

        Push joystick down and hit the fire button.

        Push joystick left and hit the fire button.

        Push joystick right and hit the fire button.

        There will be an alarm clock sound, then a voice will say:
                "LucasArts."

        Use the 1 through 9 keys to go to the appropriate level.

        Use the  A B C D E F keys to go to levels 10 through 15.

        Use the (+) key when in the game to get rid of damage.




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From: ROBERT BRIGGS                          Number: 10497
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 01/11/94  9:55p
Subj: Hitachi 3600 cd rom drive               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Terry,

        Received the refurbished drives you shipped COD.  They work
        great, and I much appreciate the extra thoughfulness, like the
        power splitter cable you sent along.

        Please ship me two more of the refurbished drives, a case for 4,
        and the (I know it is a few dollars more) cable that allows me
        to chain 4 of the drives off the one controller.

        Appreciate everything!  Nice doing business with someone that
        seems to give a shit!

===Bob Briggs

 * SLMR 2.1a * No, you -CAN'T- pay your phone bill at Taco Bell


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From: BILL WOOD                              Number: 10498
  To: BRYAN COTTER                             Date: 01/11/94  2:24p
Subj: National Computer Outlet                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well I am the Bill Wood selling High Speed Modems, but that's it, I am not
asking about C+, so I don't think you meant to write to me.
Bill
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From: PETE DINNELLA @ 924/1                  Number: 10499
  To: JEREMY ROLLINGS 1:115/                   Date: 01/11/94 10:28p
Subj: The Animals                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey Jeremy,

JR>Contact: Alexei Kulberg, Software Toolworks ( a great guy)
JR>    1-415-883-3000 EX: 557.

I'll give him a call tomorrow (Jan 12th)

JR>Best of luck. Let me know how if goes. :)

I sure will!

JR>Jeremy in Chicago.

Pete at Ft. Rucker

   
 * SLMR 2.1a * Windows 3.1 ..it keeps loading and loading and loading...

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From: RICHARD PEEK                           Number: 10500
  To: ANDY BRICK                               Date: 01/11/94 12:22p
Subj: CD Rom for Trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AB>Would you trade for the Ultima6/Wing Commander I CD? If so please leav
AB>message as I am interested in a possible trade. Thanks
AB>
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AB>

Soryy but I already had this CD and traded it off. Do you have anything 
else you'd like to trade?

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From: RICHARD PEEK                           Number: 10501
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/11/94 12:22p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
JR>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
JR>If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
JR>CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)44k
JR>DESCRIPT FREQ: descript.zip   (about 800 cd-rom disc descriptions)70k
JR>        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
JR>    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
JR>Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
JR>P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
JR>Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<
JR>
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JR> * Origin: "If you can't find it, call config.sys!" 216-296-2244 (1:15
I'd like to have one of your catalogs. Please send it to :
Rick Peek
104 Buena Vista Cir.
Gadsden, Al. 35901

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From: BILL ODOM                              Number: 10502
  To: ALAN EVANS                               Date: 01/09/94  8:06a
Subj: CD-ROM Software Elimination             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

INTERESTED IN ENCARTA & BOOKSHELF 
HOW ABOUT $70 FOR BOTH INC SHIPPING
602825 1713 PHONE/FAX OR LEAVE MESSAGE


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From: MICHAEL J. GENTRY                      Number: 10503
  To: ALL VENDORS                              Date: 01/11/94 10:30p
Subj: Wanted: CD-ROM Drive                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If anyone has any new or used (good condition only) CD-ROM drives (350ms
preferred), please let me know.

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From: MIKE BILOW                             Number: 10504
  To: ROBERT MOORE                             Date: 01/12/94  4:49a
Subj: Hitachi 3600 cd rom drive               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RM> Did my origin line come out ok this time?
 RM> -!- xMail 1.00
 RM>  ! Origin: Alpha Centauri BBS - 3 Lines/8 CDROMS  (0:0/0)

No.

-- Mike


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10505
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 01/06/94  7:33p
Subj: MITSUMI DOUBLE SPEEDS                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> > It is a nationwide chain of discount sppliance/electronic department
> > stores.

>That narrows it down John...think you can just cough up the name next time?

 The original message mentioned "Best Buys" specifically.


 * SLMR 2.1a * ________///||||||||||||||||||||    Domino effect at work!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10506
  To: GARY HOFFERMAN                           Date: 01/07/94 11:43a
Subj: NEW CDROM RELEASE                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Dealer inquiries welcome by fax +1-215-276-3854 (wholesale only)

 And what about those of us dealers that don't HAVE FAX capabilities?

 (I have the modem, but the software included doesn't work!)


 * SLMR 2.1a * Cats come in many varieties...and every one is divine.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10507
  To: MIKE BILOW                               Date: 01/07/94 11:44a
Subj: INFO-MAGIC                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Does anyone here carry the Info-Magic or Yggdrasil line of Unix-oriented
disks,
>such as Info-Magic "Internet Standards"?

 Not regularly, but I can special order anything Info-Magic carries for you.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Of all sexual abberations, chastity is the strangest....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10508
  To: NINO FAGAN                               Date: 01/07/94 12:59p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1 OF 4                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I believe this is the third time now.  In each case your message starts with
>"Section 1 of 4" and that's the last we see.  Where are sections 2 thru 4?

 Someone along the line is eating them - likely some overzelous "dupe checker"
or SOME such stupidity.

 Not much I can do about it, I'm afraid, 'till someone can track down WHERE
it's happening....


 * SLMR 2.1a * I think I just heard the fat lady sing....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10509
  To: KENNETH ROACH                            Date: 01/07/94  1:55p
Subj: JFK CDROM                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Does anyone have the recently introduced JFK CD available?

 I think that's the "Seven Days in August" disc - $60 for the Mac, don't know
about a PC version (yet), shipping included IF prepaid.

 Brice's Library
 5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
 Indianapolis, IN 46220

 (317) 726-1980 (11AM - 8PM Tu Th  11AM - 6PM We Fr EST)


 * SLMR 2.1a * Computer Guru to the Center for Advanced Cat Juggling....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10510
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 01/07/94  1:56p
Subj: CD ROM CATALOGS WANTED                  Refer: NONE
Read: 01/23/94  6:02p                       Private: No 

>-> steve frost

>We're all armed with SNIPPER.COM, so you're sure to get a catalog ;)

 I'm not - I'm armed with SLMR and QEDIT....

 8-)


 * SLMR 2.1a * A Cat could be Man's Best Friend, but never stoops to it.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10511
  To: ANDY PLANK                               Date: 01/07/94  2:01p
Subj: ***WANTED!***                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I also have Wing Commander II
>Deluxe Special edition with Special misions 1 and 2 and the speech accessory
>for $40 dollars for the cd rom. It retails for $79 dollars so it is good deal.

 I sell that one NEW for $54 with shipping - $40 is fair but not outstanding
for a used copy....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Warm winds carress you, your lover it seems....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10512
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94  2:30p
Subj: PRICE LIST PART 1 OF 4                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Brice's Library
 CD-ROM and Book Price List 3 December 1993

 5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
 Indianapolis, IN 46220
 Tue Thu 11am - 8pm  Wed Fri 11am - 6pm  EST
 (317) 726-1980 voice  (317) 726-1387 BBS (24 hour, 1200/2400/v.32 supported)

 FidoNet 1:231/190   InterNet sysop@f190.n231.z1.fidonet.org
 All prices are in U.S. Dollars and include any applicable Sales Tax.
 U.S. Shipping included if prepaid (please allow 7 days for check to clear).
 Sales to out-of-U.S. addresses require payment in U.S. funds.
 We cannot accept Credit Card payment at this time.

 1001 Utilities                    10   Macromind Clipmedia v.1: Busines 339
 1992 CD-ROM Collection w/CIA      63   Mad Dog McCree                    36
 20'th Century Almanac (5 disc)    74   Made in the USA                   28
 20'th Century People (OEM)        25   Madness of Roland (Mac)           50
 20'th Century Sports (OEM)        25   Magazine Rack                     19
 20'th Century Video Almanac (OEM) 25   Magic Flute (Mac)                 55
 386 BSD Unix                      20   Majestic Places                   36
 501 Sound Waves                   19   Mammals (Nat. Geographic)         24
 600 Days to Cocos Island (Mac)    59   Man Enough                        65
 7'th Guest                        50   Manhole                           35
 7'th Guest (OEM)                  36   Mantis Experimental Fighter       60
 9 Digit Zip Codes                 32   Mantis Experimental Fighter (OEM) 16
 9000 Sounds                       25   Map Expert w/ Street Atlas USA   263
 999+ .WAV files                   19   Maps 'n' Facts PC Globe           44
 A Christmas Carol                 26   Mario is Missing Deluxe           52
 A Christmas Carol (FTL)           53   Mario Missing w/World Atlas (OEM) 24
 A Hard Day's Night (Mac)          34   Mario Teaches Typing            Call
 A Line in the Sand                34   Masterpiece Library               36
 A Silly Noisy House (Mac)         49   Matinee Screen Saver              43
 A+ Grade Builder                  34   Mavis Beacon Teach Typing (MPC)   65
 About Cows                        25   Mavis Beacon Typing (MPC) (OEM)   20
 AD&D Dark Sun: Shattered Lands    69   Mayo Clinic (MPC)                 20
 AD&D Dungeon Hack                 45   Mayo Clinic (Mac)                 24
 AD&D Fantasy Empires              59   Mega A/V                          26
 ADA Programming                   20   Mega Movie Guide                  39
 Adobe Type on Call                81   Microsoft Beethoven: 9'th Symph.  57
 Adobe Type on Call (Windows)      83   Microsoft Bookshelf v1993        149
 Adventures                        40   Microsoft Bookshelf '93 upgrade   50
 Adventures in Heaven              15   Microsoft Bookshelf '93 (OEM)     39
 Adventures of Pinocchio (MAC)     59   Microsoft Cinemania (MPC)         57
 Adventures of Willy Beamish       54   Microsoft Dinosaurs               69
 Adventures of Willy Beamish (OEM) 17   Microsoft Encarta '94             95
 Aesop's Fables (eBook)            40   Microsoft Golf                    49
 Ageis Guardian Fleet              69   Microsoft Mozart                  69
 AGFA Intro PAC - 20 Typefaces     82   Microsoft Multimedia Viewer      349
 Air Warrier                       58   Microsoft Musical Instruments     58
 Aircraft Encyclopedia             27   Microsoft Office for Mac v3.0    599
 Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp    34   Microsoft Office for Windows     599
 All American Sports               44   Microsofr Office Pro for Windows 699
 All Music Guide                   57   Microsoft Stravisky               69
 Aloha, Hawaii!                    20   Microsoft Visual C++ Pro v1.0    399
 Altsys Virtuoso for Solaris v1.0 595   Microsoft Multimedia Word v2.0   429
 Amanda Stories                    41   Microsoft Works                  159
 Amanda Stories (Mac)              49   Microsoft Works (OEM)             39
 Amazing Universe (PC/Mac)         59   Middle East Diary                 26
 America Alive Guidisc (Mac)       87   MIDI Connection                   53
 American Business Phone Book '92  15   MIDI Music Shop for Windows       17
 American Business Phone Book '93  25   Might and Magic: World of Xeen    59
 American Heritage Ilus Ency Dict  50   Mixed Up Mother Goose             54
 American Journey 1896-1945        49   Mixed Up Mother Goose (OEM)       17
 American Vista Atlas (MPC)        30   Monarch Notes                     48
 American Vista Atlas (Mac)        60   Money, Money, Money!              29
 America's Premier Shareware       14   Monster Disk (2 discs)            35
 Americans in Space (PC/Mac)       59   Monster Media '93                 23
 Aminet                            17   Monster Media '93 #2              29
 Anecdotes v.1                     15   Mosaic Magic                      27
 Anecdotes v.2                     15   Mother Earth II                   30
 Anecdotes v.3                     15   Mother of All Clip Art            14
 Anglo-Saxons                      44   Movie Select                      55
 Animals Encyclopedia (MPC)        30   Movie Select (Mac)                55
 Animals in Motion                 40   Movies on TV and Videotape        34
 Animals of San Diego Zoo (MPC)    69   Mowgli's Brothers                 36
 Animals of San Diego Zoo (Mac)    68   Mozart Multimedia Musicbook       37
 Animals San Diego Zoo (DOS) (OEM) 19   Mozart Multimedia Musicbook (Mac) 38
 Animals San Diego Zoo (MPC) (OEM) 21   Mozart: Dissonant Quartet         49
 Animation Festival (MPC)          26   MPC Wizard                        14
 Animation Festival (MPC) (OEM)    20   Multi Bible                       59
 Annabel's Dream of Ancient Egypt  55   Multimedia Audio Collection       30
 Arctic Baron                      39   Multimedia Computor Tutor         17
 Arthur Teacher Trouble (MPC)      56   Multimedia Environments           23
 Arthur Teacher Troubl (MPC) (OEM) 22   Multimedia Handisc (Mac)          87
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble (Mac)    49   Multimedia Magic Collection       15
 ASP Advantage                     20   Murder Makes Strange Deadfellows  46
 Aster*X Base v2.1 for Sun OS     579   Murmurs of Earth (3 discs)        46
 Aster*X Power Pack for Sun OS    819   My Advanced Label Designer        54
 Astrology Source (PC/Mac)         59   The Myst (Mac)                    69
 Atlas of U.S. Presidents          26   National Parks (MPC)              20
 Audio Collection (MPC)            17   Nautilus Backpack Vol.I           44
 Audioshop (Mac)                   75   Nautilus Backpack Vol.II          44
 Audubon's Birds                   18   Nautilus Backpack Vol. III        49
 Audubon's Mammals (MPC)           18   Nautilus Best of Photography      53
 Authorware Star                   34   Nebula                            27
 Autodesk Explorer                 85   NEXTStep for Intel               649
 B17 Flying Fortress/S. Service II 40   New Basics Electronic Cookbook    58
 Baccus and Comus                  50   New Basics Electronic Cookb (OEM) 29
 Backroad Racers                   59   New Kids on the Block             50
 Baker's Dozen Game Pack Windows   16   New Kids on the Block (Mac)       50
 Barney Bear Goes to School        15   New York at it's Best             23
 Barney Bear Goes to Space         15   New Zeland Birds                  29
 Barron's Book Notes               30   Newsweek Interactive              25
 Baseball's Greatest Hits (Mac)    59   Night Before Chrismas             27
 Battle Chess (original) (OEM)     20   Night Owl Business Software       20
 Battle Chess (enhanced) (OEM)     24   Night Owl Games                   19
 Battle Chess (enhanced) (Mac)     68   Night Owl Graphics                24
 Beauty and the Beast              36   Night Owl 9                       24
 Beauty and the Beast (OEM)        17   Night Owl 10                      29
 Beethoven: The 9'th Symphony      79   North American Fax Phonebook      27
 Berlitz Thnk Tlk French (7 disc) 109   North American Indians            26
 Berlitz T & T German (7 disc)    109   NOVA (for NeXT)                   20
 Berlitz T & T Italian (7 disc)   129   Novell Unixware Personal ed.     209
 Berlitz T & T Spanish (7 disc)   129   Novell Unixware Development kit  499
 Best Business                     23   Novell Unixware Personal Util.'s 209
 Best of Microprose                24   Nutcracker                        30
 Better H&G Hlthy Cooking (PC/Mac) 57   Ocean in Motion (QT)              60
 Beyond the Wall of Stars          27   Oceans Below                      26
 Bible Lands and Stories           40   Officer's Bookcase                25
 Bible Library                     24   Oldies but Goodies                16
 Bibles and Religion               12   Orchestra (Mac)                   67
 Biblio-Tech                       20   Oregon Trail                      55
 Bicycle CD-ROM Collection         39   Original Shareware 1992           10
 Blue Force                        46   OS/2 v2.1                        179
 Book of Lists #3 (PC/Mac)         75   OS/2 v2.1 Upgrade                 99
 Book of Lists #3 (PC/Mac) (OEM)   40   Our House (Family Circus)         45
 Boris Vallejo Fantasy Art         48   Our Solar System                  12
 Brain Drain                       14   Oxford English Reference Library  94
 Bridge Deluxe w/ Omar Sharif      65   Pacific Islands                   30
 Britain at it's Best              24   Patrician                         45
 Britannica Select Software        16   PC & DOS Introductory Module      13
 Business Assistant                10   PC Game Room                      18
 Business Backgrounds              31   PC Medic                          17
 Business Backgrounds (OEM)        20   PC-SIG #12                        20
 Business CD                       29   PC-SIG #13                      Call
 Business Library v.1              46   
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10513
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94  2:27p
Subj: PRICE LIST PART 2 OF 4                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>> Continued from previous message
 California Collection             12   Pharmacist Guide to Drugs         30
 California/Hawaii Golf Guide      40   Phoenix #3                        11
 California Travel                 36   Phoenix #4                        16
 Cameron's Fine Art Catalog        40   Phoenix Phun Games                26
 Capitol Hill (DOS)                34   Phone Disc Reverse (5 disc)      249
 Capitol Hill (MPC)                34   Phonedisc USA Business            69
 Career Opportunities              25   Phonedisc USA Residential         59
 Case of the Cautious Condor       37   Photo Pro v.1: Patterns of Nature 70
 Castle of Dr, Brain               54   Photo Pro v.2: People Doing Thngs 70
 CD CAD v3.7                       26   Photo Pro v.3: Fotobank           89
 CD Funhouse (PC/Mac)              36   Photo Pro v.3: Fotobank (OEM)     17
 CD Funhouse (PC/Mac) OEM          17   Photoedge Enhance PhotoCD Images 119
 CD ROM Deluxe Pack                30   Photoedge Enhance (Mac)          119
 CD ROM Deluxe Pack II             29   Photoshop Deluxe (Mac)           776
 CD Speedway (cache program)       58   Picture Atlas of the World        60
 Chaos Fractals and Magic          30   Pier 3                            26
 Chess Maniac 5 Billion            46   Pilgram Quest                     99
 Chessmaster 3000 (MPC)            75   Pill Book                         35
 Chessmaster 3000 (MPC) (OEM)      20   Pixar One Twenty Eight (Mac)     229
 CIA World Fact Book               15   Pixar Showplace/renderman (Mac)  379
 CIA World Fact Book (MultiMedia)  21   Pixel Garden                      28
 CIA World Fact Book (Mac)         35   Pixel Perfect Graphics            17
 CICA Windows                      14   Plant Doctor                      28
 Classic Clips Trailers            26   Playing with Languages: English   58
 Classic Collection+ (4 discs)     50   Playing w Languages English (OEM) 29
 Clinton (PC/Mac)                  22   Playing w Languages: French (OEM) 29
 Clip Art Warehouse (ex-Goliath)   12   Playing w Languages: German (OEM) 29
 Clipart (Timeworks)               20   Playing w Language Japanese (OEM) 29
 Clipart Galore                    23   Playing with Languages: Spanish   58
 Clipart Heaven                    15   Playing w Languages Spanish (OEM) 29
 Clipmaster Pro                    30   Pop & Politics                    60
 CNN Newsroom Globalview           60   Power Talk                        19
 Coates Art Review: Abstract Art   40   Power Tool for DOS/WIN            20
 Coates Art Review: Impressionism  30   Powerpack Gold 3 (update)         17
 Colormagic Clip Art (PC/Mac)      20   Precision Mapping #1.5            70
 Colossal Cookbook                 14   Prescription Drugs                27
 Comanche                          79   Presto Hi Rez Audio (Mac)        109
 Companion for Windows             17   Private Eye Mysteries             50
 Companion for Wordperfect         17   Programmer's ROM                  26
 Complete Audubon                  49   Project Gutenburg                 19
 Complete Bookshop                 12   Prophone mid-year 1993 (7 discs) 109
 Complete Home/Office Legal Guide  12   Prophone Business Directory '93   25
 Complete House                    29   Protostar                         59
 Complete Windows Set              29   Public Relations Handbook         47
 Composer Quest                    79   Publique Arte                     27
 Composer Quest (OEM)              26   Publish It 2.0 (GEM/DOS)          99
 Compton's Encyclopedia (MPC)      55   Publish It 2.0 (GEM/DOS) (OEM)    19
 Compton's Family Choice           34   Publish It 3.0 (Mac)             135
 Compton's Family Encyclopedia    195   Publish It 3.1 (Windows)          55
 Compton's Multimedia Golf Guide   34   Publish It 3.1 (Windows) nofonts  44
 Compton's Interactive Encl. '94   89   Publishers Paradise               20
 Compton's Int. Enc. '94 (upgrade) 79   Publisher's Powerhouse            20
 Computer Reference Library        12   Putt-Putt Goes to the Moon        50
 Conan the Cimmerian               40   Putt-Putt Joins the Parade        47
 Conan the Cimmerian (OEM)         25   Putt-Putt Joins the Parade (Mac)  59
 Conquest of the Longbow           49   Putt-Putt's Fun Pack              31
 Consumer Information Disc         24   Putt-Putt's Fun Pack (Mac)        40
 Cookbook Heaven                   14   Q & A 4.0                         40
 Corel Art Show III                40   QRZ Ham Radio                     14
 Corel Art Show III (OEM)          29   Quest for Glory 1: You be Hero    54
 Corel Draw v2.01.1 Unix          439   Quicktoon Cartoon Classics (QT)   35
 Corel Draw 3.0                   159   Quicktoon Cartoon Classisc (OEM)  20
 Corel Draw 4.0                   399   Race the Clock                    44
 Corel Photo CD Hawaii             79   RBBS In A Box v3.1                26
 Corel Photo CD Waterfalls         79   Reader's Library                  27
 CP/M Programs                     20   Rebel Assault                     59
 Creation Stories                  45   Reel Clips                        25
 Creative Kids                     38   Reference Library                 79
 Creepy Crawlies                   54   Reference Library (OEM)           17
 Criterion goes to the Movies      23   Renaissance Color Design (Mac)   569
 Crossword Cracker                 20   Resource Library Audio            15
 Curse of Enchantia                27   Resource Library Graphics         16
 Cute and Cuddlies (PC/Mac)        49   Resource Library Language Ops.    20
 Cybergenic Ranger                 15   Resource Library Multimedia       25
 Dagger of Amon Ra                 49   Return of the Phantom             51
 Dagger of Amon Ra (OEM)           32   Return to the Moon                31
 Dandy Dinosaurs                   66   Return to Zork                    50
 Danger, Hot Stuff!                17   Ringworld: Revemge of Patriarch   50
 Danger, Hot Stuff II              25   Road and Track                    68
 Dare Bluff or Die!                60   Rock Rap 'n' Roll                 48
 Data Base Made Easy               20   Rock Rap 'n' Roll (Mac)           48
 Day of the Tentacle               42   Rodney's Funscreen                48
 Deathstar Arcade Battles          12   Rodney's Wonder Window            32
 Deep Voyage                       35   Roger Ebert Movie Companion       27
 Desert Storm Coalition Command    34   RoMaterial                        26
 Desktop Bookshop                  14   RoMaterial (OEM)                  14
 Desktop Imager                    20   Rotor/Time Bandit/Airball         16
 Desktop Publishers Dream Disc     30   Scenic and Archetecture (Mac)     59
 Dictionaries and Languages        12   Scenic and Nature III (Mac)       59
 Dictionary of the Living World   119   Schubert: The Trout Quinted       49
 Dictionary of Living World (OEM)  30   Sci-Fi Fantasy                    20
 Dictionary of Living World (Mac) 119   SCO Unix 386 v4.2 2-user         499
 Digital Tours: World of Flight    30   Scooter's Magic Castle            59
 Digital Tours: World of Trains    30   Scouting Report '92               30
 Digital Tours: USA Tour           38   Scrabble Deluxe                   30
 Dinosaur Adventure                58   Seals of the U.S. Government      27
 Dinosaur Adventure (OEM)          23   Secret of Monkey Island           20
 Dinosaur Discovery                36   Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe   23
 Dinosaur Discovery (OEM)          29   Secrets of Executive Success      30
 Dinosaurs! (MPC) (OEM)            26   Selectware                        11
 Distant Suns                      75   Selfish Giant                     34
 Doctor's Book of Home Remedies    39   Selfish Giant (Mac)               76
 Doctor's Book Home Remedies (OEM) 32   Seven Days in August (Mac)        60
 Don Quixote                       34   SFX                               17
 Down To Earth (Mac)               69   Shadow of the Comet             Call
 Dr. Funpak                        23   Shakesphere                       15
 Dr. Games                         17   Shakesphere Study Guide           21
 Dr. Music                         17   Shareware 1993                    20
 Dr. Shareware                     17   Shareware Avalanche               25
 Dr. Windows                       17   Shareware Explorer (4 discs)      40
 Dracula Unleashed (PC/Mac)        53   Shareware Explorer DOS            25
 Dragon's Lair                     53   Shareware Explorer Windows        25
 Dragon's Lair (3DO)               53   Shareware Extravaganza (4 discs)  39
 Dragon's Lair (Mac)               55   Shareware Galore                  20
 Dune                              69   Shareware Gold II                 17
 Dune (OEM)                        35   Shareware Heaven                  15
 Dvorak on Typing                  63   Shareware Heaven v.2              25
 Early Learning Fun                38   Shareware Magic                   42
 Ecoquest: The Search for Cetus    55   Shareware Online #1               19
 Ecoquest: Search for Cetus (OEM)  29   Shareware Online #2               20
 Edu-tainment Software             20   Shareware Overload                12
 Education Master, 2'nd Edition    19   Shareware Overload Trio           19
 Educational Disc                  29   Shareware Perlen 2                30
 Educational Gameland              19   Shareware Studio #2               16
 Educational Software Cooperative  19   Shareware Studio #3               21
 Electricity & Magnetism           40   Shareware Supreme                 26
 Electronic Home Library           80   Shareware Tiger                   19
 Electronic Home Library (OEM)     26   Shelley Duvall It's a Bird's Life 66
 Electronic Library of Art 3 Pack  89   Shelley Duvall Bird's Life (OEM)  39
 Elect. Lib. of Art: Impression
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10514
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94  2:32p
Subj: PRICE LIST PART 4 OF 4                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Japan Business Travel             38   U.S.A. Wars: Civil War            42
 Jazz: A Multimedia History (MPC)  68   U.S.A. Wars: Civil War (OEM)      27
 Jazz: A Multimedia History (OEM)  44   U.S.A. Wars: Desert Storm         42
 Jazz: A Multimedia History (Mac)  59   U.S.A. Wars: Desert Storm (OEM)   30
 Jazz Traditions                   42   U.S.A. Wars: Korea                30
 Jets and Props                    39   U.S.A. Wars: Vietnam              25
 Jets and Props (OEM)              20   U.S.A. Wars: World War II         27
 Jokes and Pranks                  10   User's Choice Windows             19
 Jones in the Fast Lane            54   VGA Spectrum #1                   10
 Jones in the Fast Lane (OEM)      17   VGA Spectrum #2                   16
 Journeyman Project                60   Victor Vector: Vampire Coffin     67
 Journeyman Project (Mac)          61   Victor Vector: Vamp. Coffin (OEM) 39
 Jurassic (and other) Dinosaurs    18   Victor Vector: Vamp. Coffin (Mac) 67
 Just Fonts                        20   Victor Vector: Last Dino Egg      67
 Just Grandma & Me                 37   Victor Vector Last Dino Egg (OEM) 39
 Just Grandma & Me (Mac)           48   Victor Vector Last Dino Egg (Mac) 67
 Jutland                           51   Victor Vector Hypnotic Harp (OEM) 39
 Kaa's Hunting                     36   Victor Vector: Cyber. Form. (OEM) 39
 Kathy Smith's Fat Burning System  59   Victor Vector: Telf. Ray    (OEM) 45
 KGB/CIA World Factbook            41   Video Cube Space                  54
 KGB/CIA World Factbook (OEM)      30   Video Cube Sports                 62
 KGB World Fact Book               23   Video for Windows                 36
 Key Fonts Pro (PC/Mac)            30   Video Movie Guide (MPC)           29
 Key Home Designer                 29   View from Earth                   60
 Kid Fun                           44   View from Earth (Mac)             75
 Kids Can Read: Aesop's Fables     26   Virtual 3D                        21
 Kids Can Read: Benjamin Bunny     26   Virtual Reality Starter Kit       50
 Kids Can Read: Cinderella         26   Visions of Saturn                 21
 KCR: Heather Hits First Home Run  23   Vista Pro                        108
 KCR: Long Hard Day at the Ranch   26   Vital Signs                       57
 KCR: Moving Gives Me Stomachache  23   Vivaldi                           30
 Kids Can Read: Mud Puddle         26   Vivaldi (Mac)                     38
 Kids Can Read: Paper Bag Princess 26   Vocanulearn French                46
 KCR: Scary Poems for Rotten Kids  26   Vocanulearn Spanish               46
 KCR: The Tale of Peter Rabbit     26   Vocanulearn Spanish (Mac)         59
 Kids Can Read: Thomas's Snowsuit  30   Wacky Funsters!                   26
 Kids Zoo                          69   Washington D.C. at it's Best      20
 Killer Tracks                     17   Washington Times/Insight on News 119
 King James Bible                  25   Wave Pool                         16
 King's Quest V                    54   Wayzata Desktop Pub. Bundle      129
 King's Quest V (OEM)              17   Wayzata Entertainment Bund (Mac) 129
 King's Quest VI                   62   Wayzata Multimedia Bundle        129
 King's Quest VI (Upgrade)         31   Wayzata Reference Bundle         129
 King's Ransom                     42   Wayzata World Factbook '93       129
 Klotski Polish Puzzle             20   Wayzata World Factbook '93 (OEM)  17
 Kodak Photo CD Access Software    35   Whale of a Tale                   60
 Kodak Photo CD Access (OEM)       15   Where in World is Carmen Deluxe   85
 Kodak Photo CD Access (Mac)       35   Where World Carmen Deluxe (OEM)   24
 Kodak Photo CD Access (Mac) (OEM) 18   White Horse Child                 36
 La Coleccion                      20   White Horse Child (OEM)           24
 Labyrinth of Time                 66   White Horse Child (Mac)           46
 LAN Master                        24   Who Killed Sam Rupert?            26
 Language Discovery                36   Wild Learning Safari              31
 Language Discovery (OEM)          29   Wild Places                       36
 Languages of the World (MPC)(OEM) 30   Wild Places (OEM)                 16
 Laser Printer Companion           38   Wildcat! Gold                     39
 Laser Printer Companion (OEM)     14   Win Platinum                      17
 Last Chance to See (Mac)          41   WinCD                             39
 Leader Board Collection           26   WinCD (OEM)                       29
 Learn to Speak English (2 disc)   69   Window Master                     19
 Learn to Speak French (2 disc)    59   Windoware                         12
 Learn to Speak Spanish (2 disc)   56   Windows 1993                      22
 Learning Adventure                10   Windows Collection                26
 Learning At Home: Berenstein Bear 36   Windows Heaven                    21
 Learning Heaven                   15   Windows Plus                      21
 Legend of Kyrandia                48   Windows Shareware Gold Vol. 3 #1  20
 Legend of Kyrandia (OEM)          35   Wines of the World                55
 Leisure Suit Larry I enhanced     54   Wing Commander / Ultima VI        19
 Leisure Suit Larry VI             63   Wing Cmmdr/Secret Miss. 1&2       69
 Lenny's Music Toons (Mac)         48   Wing Commander II/Ultima Underwld 57
 Lesko's Information USA           54   Wing Commander II Deluxe          54
 Libris Britania                   34   Winning Elections                 45
 Library of the Future #1         159   Wiz-Pak 6-pak CD-ROM              13
 Library of the Future #1 (OEM)    39   Wizard of Oz                      60
 Library of the Future #2         319   Wolfpack                          51
 LifeMap: Animals (Mac)            35   Women in Motion                   53
 LifeMap Animals w/ Backbone (Mac) 35   Women of Venus                    25
 LifeMap: Organic Diversity (Mac)  35   Word Tales (Mac)                  49
 Lifestyles of Rich Fame. Cookbook 34   World Atlas 2.0 (DOS) (OEM)       15
 Lightning (cache program)         69   World Atlas 3.0                   62
 Line and the Shape Eater          34   World Atlas 3.0 (Mac)             65
 Links Collectors CD               40   World Atlas 3.0 (Mac) (OEM)       24
 LINUX / GNU / X-Windows           29   World Atlas 3.2 (DOS/MPC) (OEM)   19
 Lion's Share                      34   World Atlas 4.0                   69
 Loom                              59   World Atlas 4.0 (MPC) (OEM)       24
 Loom (OEM)                        15   World of Computer Software        29
 Lord of the Rings Enhanced        50   World Traveller Vol. 1            12
 Lost in Time                      56   World View                        36
 Lost Treasures of Infocom I       50   World View (OEM)                  20
 Lost Treasures of Infocom II      39   World Vision (3 discs)            39
 Lotus 1-2-3 Smarthelp            495   World Vista Atlas (MPC)           40
 Lotus 1-2-3 v1.2 Sun             579   World Vista Atlas (Mac)           59
 Lotus 1-2-3 v1.2 IBM Unix        579   Wrath of the Demon                39
 Lovely Ladies II                  30   Wrath of the Demon (OEM)          20
 Lucas Arts Game Pack II           25   X11R5 / GNU                       20
 Lucas Arts Mac Game Pack II       25   Zillion Sounds                    25
 Lyric Language French             41
 Lyric Language Spanish            41
 MacMillan Dictionary for Children 20   Jewel Cases             50/$30 10/$7

 If you see this, please send Net Mail to "sysop" at 1:231/190 letting me know
that "part 4 of your price list made it out".


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 10515
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94  7:52p
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $99 EACH                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


                Here   they    are...         $99        each    !

 Hitachi cd rom drives model 3600 (that's right model 3600) $99 each.
 Access time 350 ms.  Transfer rate 150 kb/s.  These EXCELLENT drives
 can be daisy-chained up to  8  on each propitiatory controller card.

 They can use the same controller cards that  are  used  with  the
 model 3500's.  If you don't  already  have  an  interface  card I
 have them NEW for $60.         I also have:
 Caddies                         $  5   each.
 External cases  for 4 drives    $ 20
 External cases  for 8 drives    $ 25
 Cables for 4 or 8 drives        $ 10
 Power supplies. (110/220)       $ 25
 Shipping   aprox.                       $    4      each   drive.

 30 day warranty.        All domestic orders are shipped    c.o.d.

 Total for an 8  drive  setup  assembled  in  case  with  p/s  and
 interface,  cables,  caddies,  ready  to  plug  in  and   play...
 including shipping c.o.d. (A $1,000 value)  ALL  for  only   $960

 4 drive setup as above....  A $560 value   special offer .....$530

 Call voice 205-824-2552  or "crash" netmail your order to 3625/441.
 Sorry...  routed  netmail  won't reach me since I get my  feed  via
 satellite.

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From: MIKE ROARK                             Number: 10516
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/10/94  8:14a
Subj: HOT CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hello Mike!

Friday January 07 1994 01:21, Mike Shannon wrote to Mike Roark:


 MS> We have these in stock at $25.  Our address and other info follows.


 MS>  STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS:
 MS> 509-457-2892 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER
 MS> * S/H: $4.00

Can you send a copy of your catalog to the following address?? There is a small
American community here and it is quite a distance to travel to purchase
American goods. Many have computers with cd-rom drives and only the stuff that
came with it originally.

Mike Roark
Kalkar Elementary School
PSC 75 BOX 8365
APO AE 09719

Thanx,

Mike

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 10517
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/11/94  1:22p
Subj: So Much Modem Madness                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The following is a review of new shareware CD-Rom by Power User Software 
called "So Much Modem Madness".  I have included the list of directories 
and stats concerning file dates to give you a good feel for what is 
inside the disc. 
 
                                                                       
                        So Much Modem Madness (tm)                     
         1 Ansi Graphics               20 PcBoard BBS/Utils            
         2 File Compression            21 Misc. Programming            
         3 BBS Utilities 'A-L'         22 Protocol Add-Ons             
         4 BBS Utilities 'M-Z'         23 Qmodem & QmPro Utils         
         5 BBS Doors 'A-L'             24 RAQ BBS/Utils                
         6 BBS Doors 'M-Z'             25 RBBS & Utils                 
         7 BBS Listings                26 Renegade BBS/Utils           
         8 BBS Programs                27 RIP Graphics & Utils         
         9 Communications              28 RIP Doors & Games            
        10 Desqview Help/Utils         29 SpitFire BBS & Utils         
        11 GT Power BBS & Utils        30 Tag BBS & Utils              
        12 HAM Radio                   31 Telegard BBS & Utils         
        13 Maximus BBS & Utils         32 Telix & Telix Utils          
        14 Modem & Utils               33 TriBBS & Utils               
        15 Netmail Help & Utils        34 Misc. Utilities              
        16 Network Progs & Utils       35 Virus Prevention             
        17 Offline Mail Readers        36 Waffle BBS & Utils           
        18 OPUS BBS & Utils            37 Wildcat BBS & Utils          
        19 OS/2 Communications         38 Windows Communications       
                                                                       
 
File stats for 1990 and 1991: 
 
90  File   %    Apx  'K'   %        91  File   %    Apx 'K'    % 
==  ==== =====  ======== =====      ==  ==== =====  ======== ===== 
       1  0.0%        12  0.0%         1,108 14.1%    54,577  9.1% 
    ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== ===== 
 
 
File stats for 1992 and 1993: 
 
92  File   %    Apx 'K'    %        93  File   %    Apx 'K'    % 
==  ==== =====  ======== =====      ==  ==== =====  ======== ===== 
   2,751 35.1%   199,961 33.4%         3,980 50.8%   344,917 57.5% 
    ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== ===== 
 
----  Total Files:  7,840    Total Approx 'K' Bytes:   599,467  ---- 
 
I installed this disc into a SF-Rom/EZ-Rom set up very quickly.  You 
will find files.bbs and sffiles.bbs file lists in each directory as well 
as PCBoard type DIR file lists in a separate directory.  The directory 
structure is simple, single layered, and descriptive of the files in 
that directory.  I found no discrepancies so far in the file lists. 
That is not to say something may not come up later. 
 
The following information is stated on the back of the jewel case: 
 
So Much Modem Madness! 
600 Megabytes of communications and Online Software 
Features:       Over 7,200 programs for Modem Maniacs! 
                DOS and Windows interface for easy program access. 
                Automatic CD-Rom Door installation 
                BBS ready with standard file lists in all directories 
                Logical directory layout. 
 
My personal feelings are that this disc is up to par with the other 
So Much Shareware series of CD-Roms by Power Users Software.  If you are 
looking for a lot of BBS or modem utilities and programs, this disc is 
for you.  I have had many people come to me for BBS related files 
lately.  This disc will satisfy them for sure! 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales! 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: JOHNNY STRANGE                         Number: 10518
  To: KELLY CRONE                              Date: 01/11/94 11:08p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KC> JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
KC>   >For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
KC>   >If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.


JR please send me a printed copy also
Johnny Strange
RT 1 Box 44a
Pink Hill NC 28572-9801

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From: JESSE SCHMELZER                        Number: 10519
  To: BOBBY POSEY                              Date: 01/09/94  8:39p
Subj: Re: Pioneer 6 CD-Changer Wanted         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On Sun  9-Jan-1994  7:41p, Bobby Posey wrote:
BP>  > When you get the 1804x let me know i would like to get one. Also can
BP> you
BP>  > mail me your latest Catalog???? never got one since i order a while
BP> ago.

BP> Jesse you can Freq Boris's catalog from me at 388/20 up to 16.8 23 hrs
BP> daily as CCI.ZIP or CCI.ARJ or magic CCI..

BP> Bobby Posey

Bob Thank's but Boris Crashed it to me.
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From: SAM BECKWITH                           Number: 10520
  To: JASON WAGNER                             Date: 01/12/94 11:09a
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JW> SB> B-17 Flying Fortress & Silent Service (OEM)................  $26.00
JW> SB> Battle Chess Enhanced (OEM)................................  $29.00
JW> SB> Chessmaster 3000 (OEM).....................................  $20.00
JW> SB> Conan the Cimmerian (OEM)..................................  $21.00
JW> SB> Dune (OEM).................................................  $33.00

JW>  Quick question... what does OEM stand for?

Original Equipment Manufacturer.  These CD-ROMs are the same CDs that
you can get at a retail store only they don't have the fancy retail
packaging which adds to the cost.

Feel free to call me if you want one (800-829-0331).
Thanks,
Sam

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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 10521
  To: KENNETH ROACH                            Date: 01/11/94  2:03p
Subj: RE: Re: JFK CDRom                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I purchased JFK Assassination: A Visual Investigation from PC Zone for $40.

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From: JEAN CASH                              Number: 10522
  To: DARREN JAGGERS                           Date: 01/10/94  2:41p
Subj: Re: cd-rom wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Darren Jaggers to All <=-

 DJ> I am looking to buy a cd-rom, but it must be external 
 DJ> because I have no more slots in my computer face. I want 
 DJ> one fast enough to be able to run gifs. Anyone know or 
 DJ> have one forsale leave me a message.  Thanks!

Darren:

I have a BSR External ROM Drive, complete with expansion card, cable,
installation & operational software, including Music CD Launcher.  This
drive has phone & RCA jacks to connect to Stereo Amp.  All manuals
included.  While this drive is only 800 ms, I have run GIF's and it
works fine, even better now that I have up-graded to DOS 6.2 which
allows the ROM Drive to access Smart Drive Cache.  If you live in the
OKC area, bring a GIF Disk and see for yourself!  BTW, this drive is
less than one year old and still under warranty.

(Mr) Jean Cash       (405) 525-6344        FAX (405) 525-9495

... I hurt people for a living.  Muhamed Ali.
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From: JEAN CASH                              Number: 10523
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/10/94  2:57p
Subj: ROM Drive/Printer 4 Sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Model NX1020 Star Rainbow Color Dot Matrix Printer.  This printer is in
excellent condition, and will be sold with Laser Twin Emulation Software
that produces near laser quality printing (compare the real thing with
this and you can hardly tell the difference).  It will also include the
Super Font Library, containing over 500 Laser Fonts, and 4 new & one
barely used color ribbons.  The Software & Ribbons alone would cost more
than I am asking for this complete package:       $175.00

BSR External ROM Drive, including expansion card, cable and all software
necessary to install and operate drive.  This drive will play music CD's
and includes Music Launcher Software.  It has phone & RCA jacks to
connect to Amp.  It is less than 1 year old and still under warranty.
It is 800 ms, but used with DOS 6.2 & Smart Drive it operates like a
350.

I will include a 2 Disk Set PhoneDisc USA (Retail Value $70.00).

                                          Price:    $200.00

Both of the above include all operating manuals.  If interested call
(405) 525-6344 or FAX (405) 525-9594.

(Mr.) Jean Cash

... I am in the prime of senility.
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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 10524
  To: MIKE WALKER                              Date: 01/12/94 11:08a
Subj: Re: Phonebook Cd                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Tiger Software, 1-800-888-4437 advertizes the PhoneDisc Reverse for $189. This
is the 4th Qtr, 1993 disk. I have this title but purchased it from a local
source. Hope this helps

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From: MIKE ROARK                             Number: 10525
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/12/94 10:00a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Joe!

Sunday January 09 1994 02:00, Joe Rinehart wrote to All:

 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************

Joe, If you haven't already done so please send me a catalog.

Mike Roark
Kalkar Elementary School
PSC 75 BOX 8365
APO AE 09719

Thanx

Mike

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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 10526
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/16/93 11:12a
Subj: CD-ROM drives!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                    ////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
                    \\          MEG*A*BITE         //
                    \\           presents          //
                    //         CD-ROM MANIA        \\
                    //      DECEMBER 16, 1993      \\
                    \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/////////////////

                       Current price list effective
          Don't purchase a drive before calling and checking out
                   our GREAT selection on NEW and USED
                             CD-ROM Drives!!

                        This months special are:
       Philips CM-215/10, SCSI-2, 360/150, MS Photo, with SCSI Card
                                $200.00 ea
       Philips CM-206/10, AT BUS, 325/300, MS Photo, D.Speed w/card
                                $239.00 ea

         >>>>DEALER PRICING IS AVAILABLE TO ALL RESELLERS TOO!<<<<

   *********************************************************************
   * Toshiba 3101B (N)............$219.00  INT,SCSI,BARE,300MS,BUYOUTS
   * Toshiba 3401B (N)............$389.00  INT,SCSI,BARE,200MS,D-SPD
   * Panasonic CR-562B (FN).......$259.00  INT,AT BUS,D-SPD COMPLETE!
   * Sony CD-31A (FN).............$199.00  INT,AT BUS,I/O COMPLETE!
   * Sony CD-31A/03 (FN)..........$269.00  INT,AT BUS,D-SPD MPC 2
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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 10527
  To: JEFF WEISS                               Date: 12/17/93  8:32p
Subj: Re: *~ Mitsumi 2X Cd-rom                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                     -|-  Quoting Jeff Weiss to All  -|-

 JW> Mitsumi FX001D double-speed internal CD-ROM  ---  $229
 JW> 300 - 350 KBPS sustained throughput
 JW> 280 - 250 ms average access time
 JW> AT bus interface card included
 JW> All necessary signal and audio cables included
 JW> All necessary install software and manuals included
 JW> caddyless front loading tray (takes 3" CDs as well)
 JW> headphone jack with volume control

Jeff, interested in a trade?  I have a SyQuest 44M removable SCSI
drive, with 1 cartridge and 8-bit controller/cable available to
offer in trade.  The drive is in perfect working order and *GUARANTEED*
against DOA. Echo back if interested, enquiring minds wanna know  *8)

,\\ark


                                ,\\ark Johnsen
                               10B Texas Street
                          Satellite Beach, Fl  32937
                      (407) 773-4339 [5:30 - 10pm, EST]
 
... I suffer from a personality disorder, and so do I
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
                
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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 10528
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 12/12/93  2:18p
Subj: Re: CDROMs Wanted (games)               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Heather Krause to Christopher Sloan <=-

HK> I just finished Return To Zork on CD and am interested in
 HK> selling it.  Includes all original
 HK> packaging and docs. Asking $35 plus $3 for shipping.
 
    Are you interested in a trade? I have the following:
    King's Quest VI
    Multimedia Beethoven
    USA Wars:Civil War
    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det Vol I
    National Parks

      If interested call 809-293-5375 or leave message.

                         Mike



... "42? 7 and a half million years and all you can come up with is 42?!"
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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 10529
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/12/93  4:21p
Subj: Cd's for trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following for trade:


King's Quest VI

USA Wars:Civil War

Multimedia Beethoven

Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective vol I

National Parks

Software Jukebox (Links,Faces Tris III, Jetfighter, 
                   Berenstein Bears Fun With Color)

               Call 809-293-5375 if interested or post a message


... Security, confine Ensign  to the brig.
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From: ELDON WAKEFIELD                        Number: 10530
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 12/17/93  6:54a
Subj: Re: CD'S                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > 
 > Monday December 13 1993, Eldon Wakefield writes to Pat Rickerson:
 > 
 > OK, for got your address please send it, thanks
Ok Pat it's 816 Belvedere Drive
            Columbus Ga. 31907
You have a merry Xmas and a happy new year also this goes for any one else
reading this Eldon


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From: GREG COBB                              Number: 10531
  To: TIM PEETERS                              Date: 12/22/93 11:15p
Subj: CDs                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Bet its your BIOS.

I imagine it is.  I ran Check-It and I couldn't find anything wrong there,
except for IRQ conflicts.  I don't know why I'd have them though.  I only have
Com 3 and 4 occupied by something.  I don't even have my mouse set up.  This is
one thing that has really puzzled me.  I appreciate the help though Tim.

-G-


--- GEcho 1.00
 * Origin: Picture This... Southaven, Ms (601)342-6071 (1:123/434)
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From: KEITH LOONEY                           Number: 10532
  To: RICK SHELTON                             Date: 12/24/93  9:49a
Subj: busty babe                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How much are you asking? Leave me your phone number with the amount
you want. I've been looking for the original version.

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 * Origin: Phila. Amiga Users' Group BBS 215-551-6113/1120 (1:273/912.0)
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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 10533
  To: JEFF WEISS                               Date: 12/24/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: Pro Audio Spectrum 1                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I just "piggybacked" a 50 pin SCSI connector on the ribbon cable for PAS16. It
works fine with my Syquest removable media SCSI drive.

--- DLG Pro v1.0/DLGMail
 * Origin: Amiga Line BBS (405)733-3013 V32bis (1:147/2020)
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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 10534
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 12/24/93 11:13a
Subj: Re: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New Release    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <12-21-93 17:32> Mark Walker wrote:

MW>> DV>> In a message to Mark Walker <19 Dec 93  21:38> David
MW>> DV>> Vangelder wrote:

MW>> DV>> Mark, the per node licensing fee is $25.00.  The same fee
MW>> DV>> is appplicable to each node.

DV>> The photographers were not willing to allow their images
DV>> to be distributed without compensation.  We came up with
DV>> $25.00 per node, which we felt was very reasonable as it
DV>> represents less than one subscription fee (Generally
DV>> speaking; many sysops charge $50.00 and more as you know).
DV>> If a sysop has more than one node, then he must have the
DV>> subscriber base to support those additional nodes.
DV>> The licensing fee would still represent less than one
DV>> subscription fee.

MW>> DV>> Please let me know if you agree that this is a nominal fee.

MW>> Well it depends...considering that there is at least one other
MW>> supplier of quality scans and they are not charging a per node
MW>> fee and you are, it could put your disk out of the market for
MW>> BBS use. On the other hand if the disk is far superior (in the
MW>> eyes of the purchaser) to anything on the market they may not
MW>> consider it unreasonable. Sitting in my shoes as a BBS operator
MW>> and computer sales consultant, I think unless the whole market
MW>> goes that way (which I hope they don't) I will pass on the disk.
MW>> I really hate to, as I REALLY like looking at beautiful women.

Mark, I appreciate your reply and giving me your opinion.  It is
not for me to say that our disc "BODACIOUS BEAUTIES" will be a far
superior disc. You and the buying public will have to make that
decision after it is released.  If you read my post announcing the
disc (with the statistics included) you will see that it is packed
FULL of over 2,000 commercial copyrighted images scanned from 35mm
slides.  I believe, if the disc is not worth a Sysop paying $25.00
per node (as I indicated in my last post, less than ONE SUBSCRIPTION
fee) to put ANY adult CD on line, then the disc is probably not worth
purchasing in the first place. I agree with the photographers, who
don't see anything wrong with the Sysop paying some royalty or
licensing fee for the ability to sell/distribute images to which
he/she does not have the rights. But...Perhaps the photographers and
I are wrong, that is of course ONLY our opinion.  
 
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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 10535
  To: DOUG HUNKELE                             Date: 12/24/93 11:14a
Subj: Re: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New Release    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <12-18-93 07:13> Doug Hunkele wrote:

DH>> * Overheard by  All, David Vangelder Mumbled...:
DH>> DV >>  ******************* FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!!
DH>> DV >>  ****** FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS
DH>> DV >>  **************** RATES AVAILBALE UPON REQUEST

DH>> So what is the NOMINAL FEE.............


Doug, the per node licensing fee is $25.00.  The same fee is
appplicable to each node.

The photographers were not willing to allow their images to be
distributed without compensation.  We came up with $25.00 per node,
which we felt was very reasonable as it represents less than one
subscription fee (Generally speaking; many sysops charge $50.00 and
more as you know).  If a sysop has more than one node, then he must
have the subscriber base to support those additional nodes. The
licensing fee would still represent less than one subscription fee.

Please let me know if you agree that this is a nominal fee.  
 
--- QuickBBS 2.80 GoldBase (Beta-13)
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From: BILL HALL                              Number: 10536
  To: JIM LEONARDT                             Date: 12/23/93  8:48p
Subj: Mitsumi 2x Spin                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JLBH>Sir, I am a disabled Nam Vet and on a fixed income and run a BBS and I am
JLBH>need of a good External CD. Again I am on a fixed income and if you could
JLBH>with me for X amount per month I would very much like to order one from yo
JLBH>Data # is: 417-326-3361 the voice # is: 417-326-3361 Node # : 1:284/52....
JLBH>Thank you for your time.....Jim Leonardt
JLBH>--- FreeMail 1.08b
You must have me mixed up with someone else. I don't have one forsale.

 * OLX 2.2 * Hello, I am part number ||#||||#||#||#||


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From: DENNIS HENDERSON                       Number: 10537
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/24/93  6:22a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES VOLUME II               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

LN>Whoa 'Hoss', perhaps my comment is out of perspective here... the comment
LN>was in reference to *MYSELF* who is 37 and how good could *I* be--If you c
LN>locate the original 'Un-hacked' message, you can clearly see I was making
LN>jestful comment against *ME* and not the general populous of women.
LN>
LN>Egads...... and BTW, I bet you wife is beautiful, and I applaud you coming
LN>forward but don't tease me about something I CAN'T HAVE <big grin>
LN>
LN>Friends ?

Sorry, must have gotten in on the tail end of a thread there...thought
you were putting down "older" women and couldn't pass up the opportunity
to defend my generation.  Didn't mean to offend, just wanted to make a
point.  Friends?  Of course!

Happy Holidays,
Dennis

 * Stolen Tagline -> * Eyeing little girls with bad intent, eh.


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From: KIRK REEVES                            Number: 10538
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/23/93 11:05p
Subj: Black/White                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone knows any CD that has a lot of black\white\oriental intereacial
sex.  I am fascinated by the different color range humanity comes in and am
looking for the widest possible selection.

--- Maximus 2.01wb
 * Origin: Barristers' BBS, Portland, Or. V32b (503) 228-5866 (1:105/31)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10539
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/24/93  1:07a
Subj: "SOFT" ADULT CD-ROMS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 December 1993        SOFTCORE ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST   Last update: 12/24
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
 Amateur Models................34.00    Girls of Risque (New!)........35.00
 American Girls (New!).........34.00    High Volume Nudes.............36.50
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......29.00    L.A. Strippers (Movie)........49.00
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......48.00    Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00
 Digital Dreams 1..............28.00    Photo Gallery.................34.00
 Digital Dreams 2 (New!).......29.00    Southern Beauties.............33.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Girls of Mardi Gras (New!)....43.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10540
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/24/93  1:08a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICES pt 1                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 December 1993           DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST      Last update: 12/24
 **************************************************************************
                                   1 of 3
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities................13.00    Microsoft Bookshelf 1992 MPC..35.00
 20th Century Sports (New!)....29.00    Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..49.00
 20th Century Video Almanac....29.00    Microsoft Cinemania 1993 MPC..55.00
 7th Guest.....................39.00    Microsoft Cinemania 1994 MPC..59.00
 9-Digit Zip Code Guide (New!).32.00    Microsoft Golf MPC............48.50
 9000 Sounds (New!)............25.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........49.00
 A.S.P. Shareware (New!).......22.00    Middle East Diary.............35.00
 Action Traveler (New!)........29.00    MIDI Music Shop...............26.50
 Adventures in Heaven (New!)...19.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...25.00    Monarch Notes.................48.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........35.00    Monster Media 93 vol 2........29.00
 American Business Phonebk 91..17.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 American Business Phonebk 93..25.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Aminet Amiga..................15.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....18.00
 Anecdotes 1...................14.50    Multimedia Magic Collection...28.00
 Anecdotes 2...................14.50    National Geographic Mammals...24.00
 Anecdotes 3...................14.50    National Parks................24.50
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......19.00    Nature Graphics (New!)........29.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....22.00    Newsweek Interactive (New!)...26.50
 Arizona Images................25.00    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Audubon's Birds...............23.00    Night Owl 8.0.................24.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    Night Owl 10.1................30.00
 Battle Chess..................25.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........25.00    Night Owl Games...............27.00
 Beyond the Wall of Stars......24.50    Night Owl Graphics............27.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl Windows (New!)......27.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    North American Fax Book.......32.50
 Britannica Family Choice......28.50    Oceans Below (New!)...........27.50
 Britannica Select Software....28.50    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Business Assistant............13.00    OS/2Box.......................25.00
 Business Master...............20.00    Otherware (Mac/Amiga S/W).....25.00
 C User's Group Library........29.00    Our Solar System..............13.00
 Canadian Shareware............19.00    PC Karaoke w/ Microphone......65.00
 Career Opportunities..........26.00    PC Paramedic (New!)...........25.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....27.00
 CD Powerbox ($6 w/ any order).15.00    PC-SIG 12.....................19.00
 CD Powerbox 2 (New..All 93!)..29.00    PC-SIG Windows................19.00
 CD Winbox 1.01................24.00    Pentomino.....................23.00
 CD-ROM of CD-ROMs ($9 w/ ord).29.00    Peter and the Wolf............25.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Phoenix 4.0...................18.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Phoenix Phun & Games..........15.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phonedisc USA.................69.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Pier 2........................24.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 3 (In Stock!)............29.00
 Clipart Heaven................25.00    Pier 2/3 2-Pak................49.00
 Clipart Warehouse (New!)......13.00    Pinacotheca Multimedia........24.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00    Pixel Garden..................34.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Companion for Windows (New!)..19.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Companion for WordPerfect.....19.00    Playing w/ Language: English..24.50
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    Playing w/ Language: French...24.50
 Composer Quest................33.00    Playing w/ Language: German...24.50
 Compton's Interactive Ency....89.00    Playing w/ Language: Japanese.24.50
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....64.00    Playing w/ Language: Spanish..24.50
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....64.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0.............13.00
 Computer Reference Library....13.00    Precision Mapping.............68.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * Is it '96 yet???

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10541
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/24/93  1:08a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICES pt 2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 December 1993           DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST      Last update: 12/24
 **************************************************************************
                                   2 of 3
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Conan the Cimmerian...........27.50    Prescription Drugs............27.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....34.50    Profiles of Colleges..........29.50
 Cookbook Heaven...............23.00    Project Gutenberg.............22.00
 CorelDraw 3.0.................69.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak 4th Qtr..109.00
 Cybergenic Ranger.............19.50    ProPhone 1993 Business........29.00
 Dagger of Amon Ra.............32.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Publish-It 2.0................25.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........35.00
 Dare, Bluff, or Die (New!)....29.00    Publisher's Paradise..........29.00
 Day of the Tentacle...........44.50    Publisher's Paradise Pro......35.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Publisher's Powerhouse (New!).29.00
 Desert Storm..................33.50    Q&A 4.0.......................39.00
 Desktop Bookshop..............21.50    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Rebel Assault (New!)..........49.00
 Dictionary of Living World....32.50    Reel Clips....................25.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............33.00    Reference Library ............24.50
 Dinosaurs!....................33.00    Return to Zork (New!).........50.00
 Dr. Games.....................20.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...37.00
 Dr. Music.....................20.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
 Dr. Shareware.................20.00    Scrabble Deluxe (New!)........34.00
 Dr. Windows...................20.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
 DTPro.........................26.50    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
 Dune..........................39.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Ecoquest......................27.50    Shareware 1993 vol 2..........20.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......49.00
 Electronic Cookbook...........29.00    Shareware Online 1............19.00
 Electronic Home Library.......29.00    Shareware Online 2............29.00
 Electronic Library of Art.....39.50    Shareware Overload............13.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Shareware Studio 2............23.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.00    Shareware Studio 3............25.00
 European Monarchs.............35.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Family Doctor.................26.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.00
 Firearms Reference............24.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...49.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    Sights & Sounds...............22.50
 Font Master 2.................24.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    Sleeping Beauty...............25.00
 Fractunes.....................30.00    So Much Screenware............27.50
 Fresh Arte....................34.00    So Much Shareware 2...........19.00
 Funny.........................33.00    So Much Shareware 3...........25.00
 Game Arena....................13.00    So Much Space (New!)..........24.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Software Vault 1..............19.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Software Vault 2..............19.00
 Games Collection (90% 1993!)..26.00    Software Vault Gold...........25.00
 Gameware Collection...........24.00    Solar Heaven (New!)...........23.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.00    Sound Effects Library.........19.00
 Gardening (New!)..............13.00    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 GIF Galaxy (New!).............24.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 GIF's Galore 9/93.............16.50    Soundware Collection..........24.00
 Giga Games....................19.50    SoundWAV......................25.00
 Global Explorer...............85.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Space & Astronomy (New!)......27.00
 Grammy Awards.................34.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Space Quest IV................19.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Space Shuttle (New!)..........25.00
 Great Wonders of the World....42.00    Space Time and Art (New!).....34.50
 Grolier's MPC Ency 6.0 (New!).45.00    Star Trek Collectibles........59.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...23.00    Stellar 7.....................19.50

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * Odo, is there any more jello in the fridge?  Odo?  Odo??

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10542
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/24/93  1:08a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICES pt 3                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 December 1993           DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST      Last update: 12/24
 **************************************************************************
                                   3 of 3
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Guinness Disc of Records 93...29.00    Straight from Heaven (New!)...19.00
 Guy Spy.......................29.50    Street Atlas USA v2...........94.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............29.00    STW Illustrated Encyclopedia..34.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    STW Multimedia Encyclopedia...44.00
 Ham Radio/Scanner Companion...23.50    STW MPC Encyclopedia..........44.00
 Hamware 1993..................23.00    Super Games For Windows.......10.00
 Health & Medical Directory....27.50    Talking Jungle Safari.........33.00
 Hobbes OS/2 10/93.............16.00    Tech Arsenal..................21.50
 Hollywood the Bizarre (New!)..39.50    Technotools...................13.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..19.00
 Home Designer (New!)..........29.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......35.00
 Home/Office Legal Guide.......13.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Horror & Sci-Fi Films (New!)..39.50    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 House of Games................18.50    Timetable of Business/Politic.26.00
 Images of NASA (New!).........25.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Total Baseball 1992...........24.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Total Baseball 1993...........28.00
 Interactive Story Time 3......29.00    Total Heart by Mayo Clinic....49.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Trump Castle..................28.00
 Int'l Graphics Library........27.50    U.S./World Atlas MPC..........25.00
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....29.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................23.00
 Jets & Props..................28.50    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Jewel Cases....................1.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 Jokes & Pranks................13.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Wars: Civil War..........34.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............39.00    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 King's Quest V................20.00    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............34.00
 King's Quest VI (Retail Box)..39.00    U.S. Wars: WWII...............34.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    USA Today: The 90's (New!)....36.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........19.00    VGA Spectrum 1................13.00
 La Coleccion (Spanish S/W)....19.50    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 Lan Master....................25.00    Video Movie Guide (New!)......28.50
 Languages of the World........37.00    Virtual Reality Starter Kit...49.00
 Learning Adventure............13.00    Wave Pool (New!)..............19.00
 Learning Heaven...............19.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Leisure Suit Larry 6 (New!)...49.50    Wildcat Gold..................20.50
 Library of the Future #1......39.00    Win Platinum..................24.00
 Libris Britannia..............34.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Linux.........................27.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 Loom..........................19.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Mac Multimedia Space..........29.00    Windows Collection (New!).....26.00
 Mac Shareware.................19.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........29.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Macromind Action..............35.00    World Atlas MPC ..............23.00
 Mad Dog McCree (New!).........39.00    World Fact Book M/M...........23.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    World of Flight...............34.00
 Majestic Places...............38.50    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mantis........................24.00    World Traveler................13.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..25.00    World View....................24.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World Vision 3-Pak............39.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............26.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00
 Mega Clipart..................24.50    X11R5/GNU.....................24.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * ... A fool and his money soon become a Sysop!

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 10543
  To: ROB CORKUM                               Date: 12/23/93  5:52p
Subj: Busty Babes II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Could you please send me your latest catalog?  Or give info on
-> freq'ing it.

Hi Rob!
   You can file request it as CDROMS!.ZIP, but I'll send it out to you
direct, tonight.
   Thanks,
   Vince
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From: PAUL SMITH                             Number: 10544
  To: ZACHARY HAMM                             Date: 12/19/93  7:34p
Subj: Re: STUFF FOR SALE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In his last message, Zachary Hamm said:
****************************************
***
***486DX-33Mhz VESA Local Bus MB with 256K cache,
***3 VLB slots, 5 16-bit slots.  Upgradable to
***66Mhz or Pentium.                                        
***$395.00 
***
****************************************
Hi Zachary  --

        Does this board include any RAM?  I assume that it does since 
brand new boards with these specs sell for just about the same price 
you're asking.  The CPU is Intel - right?  

                                        Thanks  --  Paul
*
... Exercise daily.  Eat wisely.  Die anyway.    SMOKE & DIE SOONER!
---
 TTYL  --  *aul 
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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10545
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/23/93  4:33a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-GIGO(4446) ZyX
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: *********** REFURBISHED  HITAC         Number: 10546
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/23/93  4:33a
Subj:                                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Daisy-chainable to 8 drives!
These are the long awaited refurbished drives, 1 step above Model 3500
$130.00 bare unit, 30 day warrantee, 680 meg,
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariant.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-GIGO(4446) ZyX
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOYCE ZWEEDYK                          Number: 10547
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/23/93  5:42p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD PRICES 3/3                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

*** Quoting Mike Shannon to Joyce Zweedyk dated 12-21-93 ***
> JZ>  >  Grolier's MPC Ency 6.0 (New!).45.00    Street Atlas USA
> On the whole, I think it's a nice product, but the Compton's 
> Interactive is
> still my personal favorite.



How much is the Compton's?  And do you carry it?

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 10548
  To: JAMES PARKER                             Date: 12/24/93  9:59a
Subj: ADULT CD ROMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Is there anything to these?

   Chacun son gout - to each their own.   :)

   Vince
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From: SCOTT BRIGADE                          Number: 10549
  To: RICHARD CARTER                           Date: 12/24/93 10:56p
Subj: Cdrom disc prices12/17/9                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->         GIGA Games                 $18.50

Richard, could you please give me the release date of this cdrom?  And
do you have any other Game shareware cdroms besides giga or other
shareware cdroms such as Night Owls?  Im very interested in the Giga,
but I think its been out for quite awhile now hasnt it, will there be
another release?


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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 10550
  To: CHRISTIAN HEDEMARK                       Date: 12/25/93 12:36a
Subj: Re: CD Disks for Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Christian Hedemark to Eddie Phillips <=-

 CH> *** Quoting Eddie Phillips to Al Kaiser about Re: CD Disks for Sal


 EP>  AK> I have the following CD Disks for sale:
 EP>
 EP>  AK> Enhanced Battle Chess     (Interesting Tutorial)
 EP>  AK> Space Quest IV
 EP>  AK> Arthur's Teacher Trouble
 EP>
 EP> I'd like to offer $40 delivered for the 3 CD's above and I'll prepay.  Let
 EP> know....my number's in the tagline.
 EP>
 EP> ... Voice: 919-870-6926 (eves/weekends)
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^

 EP> ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
 EP>
 EP> --- QScan v1.02b
 EP>   ! Origin: Southern Pride BBS  5gig PcBoard  772-4143  772-4183
(1:151/151)
 CH>                                               ^^^^^^^^  ^^^^^^^^

 CH> Yeah, your number is there.  But not your area code <smirk>

It is if you'd look at the right number.
 
... If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving isn't for you
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10551
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/24/93  3:35a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-GIGO(4446) ZyX
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: *********** REFURBISHED  HITAC         Number: 10552
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/24/93  3:35a
Subj:                                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Daisy-chainable to 8 drives!
These are the long awaited refurbished drives, 1 step above Model 3500
$130.00 bare unit, 30 day warrantee, 680 meg,
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariant.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-GIGO(4446) ZyX
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 10553
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/24/93 10:14a
Subj: * CD-ROMS for Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROMS for Sale

Software Options CD from IBM ...................  $13
The World Factbook - DOS .......................  $13
Calculus (Anton) 1st 3 chapters ................  $20
Loom ...........................................  $22
Q&A 4.0 from Symantec ..........................  $39
Tax-Prep 1993 ..................................  $12
CD-ROM Premier .................................  $12
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $14
PC Globe, PC USA and Automap ...................  $22
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $59
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $ 9
PC Sig Library 9th edition .....................  $11
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $14
Sneek Peeks from Sierra ........................  $13
Corel Art Show 3 with large Book ...............  $22
Phoenix-CD Version 3.0 .........................  $12
Chessmaster 3000 ...............................  $24
Groliers Encyclopedia ..........................  $33

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Registered Symantec Q&A Consultant


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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 10554
  To: MICHAEL CROSSON                          Date: 12/24/93  6:30p
Subj: Re: Cd rom drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > JM> especially the Hobbes discs I've fed them.  Even

 >I bought an 8-bit 600ms Mitsumi in May.  It will read 
 >exactly three discs,
 >and those with a lot of errors.  I bought a 16-bit 350ms Mitsumi in
 >October.  It will read every disc I have.  The 8-bit 
 >machine will not read
 >Night Owl 7 or either Shareware Studio vol 1 or 2.  
 MC> The 8-bit will not read
 >PC-SIG 12.  The 16-bit will.

 MC> I have an LU002 slow Mitsumi and although it's fine for the most part, it
 MC> does have some problems with the last few directories of Pier 1.  It reads
 MC> all the .ZIP directories OK, but MOST of the time it can't read the text
 MC> file directories with the descriptions.  Once in a while it can however -
 MC> it's an odd problem.

Howdy Michael,

I'm going to check out my slow Mitsumi with my 16-bit card the next time I take
the BBS down for maintenance.  According to the docs both drives are ISO 9660
compatible.  I personally believe that the problem lies in the interface.

The 8-bit does not have the adaptability that the 16-bit has.  When I changedto
a 16-bit my problems ceased, and the only difference was the interupt I used. 
Why it made a difference I don't know.  The interupt for the 8-bit was unused
by my machine, but the drive would barely read any CD's.

                                      Ron

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 10555
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 12/24/93  4:17p
Subj: Merry Xmas                              Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Lee,
Have a Merry Xmas and Happy New, now if you are Jewish then happy Haunaka.
spelled correct I hope. :-)

                               Mike Harris

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10556
  To: CHARLIE JARMAN                           Date: 12/22/93  1:41p
Subj: DR. LINE OF CD'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>        I am offering the DR. line of CD's at a GREAT price! These are
>        ** version 2 **, the NEW ones juts pressed a week or two ago.

 By somebody OTHER than the original Dr. series publisher, Aces Research.

 I suspect there might be litigation in the future for "Accurate Research",
unless they managed to license the names....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Windows: First choice of Moe, Larry and Curly

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10557
  To: JEAN-LOUIS BONTRONT                      Date: 12/22/93  2:59p
Subj: ASIMOV CD                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Is there any such thing as a "Complete Asimov" CD collection of his sci-fi
>writings?

 Not yet. The closest thing I've seen to that (so far) is the "Hugo and Nebula
Anthology 1993" disc by Clarinet, which appears to be targeting the replacement
of the "Hugo Winners" anthologies the last Dr. Asimov edited....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Was it such a tragedy, being you...being me?

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10558
  To: JEAN-LOUIS BONTRONT                      Date: 12/22/93  3:00p
Subj: ASIMOV CD                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Is there any such thing as a "Complete Asimov" CD collection of his sci-fi
>writings?

 Almost forgot - I'm not 100% certain his COMPLETE works will fit on a single
CD-ROM, though if you limit to just the fiction it all SHOULD fit....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Warning! Moderator IS armed and DOES shoot back!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10559
  To: RON MITCHELL                             Date: 12/22/93  3:10p
Subj: CD ROM DRIVE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I bought an 8-bit 600ms Mitsumi in May.  It will read exactly three discs, and
>those with a lot of errors.  I bought a 16-bit 350ms Mitsumi in October.  It
>will read every disc I have.  The 8-bit machine will not read Night Owl 7 or
>either Shareware Studio vol 1 or 2.  The 8-bit will not read PC-SIG 12.  The
>16-bit will.

 You have a faulty LU002 then. My LU002 (bought new almost 2 years ago) has
read everything I've thrown at it to date, including Night Owl 10 and PC-SIG
12. Yours may need some alignment work or cleaning....

>My problems with Mitsumi are true.  I'm out $199 for a drive that won't read
my
>CDs.  The vendor I bought it from says that they've never had a problem.

 Take your drive back to the vendor and DEMAND a refund or exchange, if it's
still under warrenttee. ANYONE can make a bad drive - I've had examples of new
TEAC drives that didn't work, doesn't mean the drive MODEL is bad (I've never
seen a bad Micropolis, though!)....

>When
>I tell them that I've got one and want to bring the drive in so they can hook
>it up and check it out, theu say they don't have any systems with which to do
>so.

 Take it up with your local Better Business Bureau, and also talk to your local
District Attorney about "lemon law(s)" in your state, if any.

>I just wish Mitsumi would be more discriminating in who they
>allow to market their drives

 When certain major distributors get involved, the manufacturer LOSES control
of who is going to sell their stuff.

>and pay more attention to customer service.

 That much WOULD be nice....


 * SLMR 2.1a * I used to be Sane, but I got better....

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From: WESLEY CHEW                            Number: 10560
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/24/93  3:00a
Subj: MEDIAVISION FUSION16                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MediaVision Fusion16 MPC Upgrade Kit for Sale
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

The following items are bundle with the upgrade kit :-

1. Sony CD-31A (Kodak CD compatible, built in tray).
2. MediaVision Pro-Audio 16 sound board.

Used only for 1.5 months. With original (unmailed) warranty card.
I will bundle with the following CD-ROM :-

1. Campton's Interactive Encyclopedia (MPC Microsoft Window 3.1 version)
2. Deep River's Adventure (Microsoft Window 3.1 compatible)
3. Interplay's Battle Chess (MPC Window 3.1 compatible)
4. Virgin's 7th Guest (DOS version)

The price? Very reasonable! $300 (software alone cost more than $200!)
Anyone want to swap my Corel Draw 3.0 ?  I can be contacted at
Phone : (405) 359-1259   Internet : wesley.chew@oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu
        
Wes
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From: BRIAN DHATT                            Number: 10561
  To: TIM SHEEHAN                              Date: 12/23/93  2:02p
Subj: OS/2 CD wanted                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

20 Dec 93 15:16, Tim Sheehan wrote to JD Brown:

 TS> What about the "for windows" version, do you have that? I would
 TS> prefer that.

If he can't provide it, try 1-800-EGGHEAD or 1-800-COMP-USA.

Brian

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From: GARY KIMBRELL                          Number: 10562
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 12/25/93  5:22a
Subj: After X-MAS Specials                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

>  STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892

What about the package deals? Got a After X-MAS special? COuld use a couple
more
CD's & caddies. WHat would be the price for the FAO set? 

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10563
  To: KENNETH ROACH                            Date: 01/14/94  1:47p
Subj: JFK CDROM                               Refer: NONE
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>Does anyone have the recently introduced JFK CD available?

 Which one - there appear to be TWO recently introduced JFK-related CDs, "JFK
Assasination: A Visual Investigation" and "JFK Assasination Encyclopedia".

 I don't have either in stock (yet), but can get either one for you - cost is
$39 for either, shipping included IF prepaid.

 Oddly enough, I get both of them from the same distributor for somewhat
different prices, so I do NOT think they are the same disc....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10564
  To: DAVID EBERHARDT                          Date: 01/14/94  1:50p
Subj: GERMAN LANGUAGE PROGRAM                 Refer: NONE
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>I am needing a CD that teaches German.

 Of the ones I have seen, the Berlitz "Think and Talk German" appears to be the
most "serious" - 7 disc set at $109. I've been toying with the Spanish one, in
an attempt to recapture my High School Spanish - just haven't had the TIME to
get serious about it (yet)....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10565
  To: SEAN EAGAN                               Date: 01/14/94  1:52p
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
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>release to the public! Would you like to have one or more of your High Quality
>Graphic Images on it as an advertisement for your board on it?

 Thanks for the warning - I generally HATE .GIFs with BBS ads on them....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Verry funny, Scottie. Now BEAM DOWN MY CLOTHES!!!!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10566
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94  3:52p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1 OF 5                Refer: NONE
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 Brice's Library
 CD-ROM Price List 14 January 1993

 5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
 Indianapolis, IN 46220
 Tue Thu 11am - 8pm  Wed Fri 11am - 6pm  EST
 (317) 726-1980 voice  (317) 726-1387 BBS (24 hour, 1200/2400/v.32 supported)

 FidoNet 1:231/190   InterNet sysop@f190.n231.z1.fidonet.org
 All prices are in U.S. Dollars and include any applicable Sales Tax.
 U.S. Shipping included if prepaid (please allow 7 days for check to clear).
 Sales to out-of-U.S. addresses require payment in U.S. funds.
 We cannot accept Credit Card payment at this time.
 If you don't see a specific title that you are looking for, please CALL!
 I add new titles almost constantly!


 Infocomm 10 Year Aniversery Coll. 79  Louis Armstrong Multi Record      29
 1000 Sound Effects                49  Lovejoy's College Councel. (MPC)  79
 1001 Utilities                    10  Lovely Ladies II                  31
 1992 CD-ROM Collection w/CIA      63  Lucas Arts Game Pack II (OEM)     20
 20'th Century Almanac (5 disc)    72  Lucas Arts Mac Game Pack II       26
 20'th Century Art                 49  Lunicus (Mac)                     69
 20'th Century People (OEM)        25  Lyric Language French (PC/Mac)    40
 20'th Century Sports (OEM)        25  Lyric Language Spanish (PC/Mac)   40
 20000 Leagues Under the Sea (Mac) 69  MacMillan Dict for Children (OEM) 19
 3'd Body Adventure (MPC)          79  MacMillan Dict. for Children (Mac 39
 3D Tutor (Mac)                   119  Macromind Action! (OEM)           28
 501 Sound Waves                   19  Mad Dog McCree                    35
 600 Days to Cocos Island (Mac)    59  Made in the USA (PC/Mac)          36
 7'th Guest (OEM)                  36  Madness of Roland (Mac)           50
 7'th Guest (Mac)                  99  Magic Death (MPC)                 49
 9 Digit Zip Codes                 32  Magic Death (Mac)                 49
 9000 Sounds                       24  Magic Flute (Mac)                 55
 A Christmas Carol                 26  Majestic Places (PC/Mac)          36
 A Christmas Carol (FTL)           56  Mammals (Nat. Geographic)         23
 A Silly Noisy House (MPC)         59  Man Enough                        59
 A Silly Noisy House (Mac)         49  Manhole                           35
 A+ Grade Builder                  34  Manhole (OEM)                     25
 About Cows                        25  Manpower                          29
 AD&D Dark Sun: Shattered Lands    69  Mantis Experimental Fighter (OEM) 16
 AD&D Dungeon Hack                 49  Maps 'n' Facts PC Globe           47
 AD&D Fantasy Empires              59  Mario is Missing Deluxe (OEM)     20
 ADA Programming                   19  Mario Missing w/World Atlas (OEM) 20
 Adobe Type on Call                81  Mario Teaches Typing              64
 Adobe Type on Call (Windows)      83  Mars Explorer                     41
 Adventures                        40  Masterpiece Library               36
 Adventures in Heaven              15  Math Blaster Spot                 49
 Adventures of Pinocchio (MAC)     59  Matinee Screen Saver              43
 Adventures of Willy Beamish (OEM) 17  Mavis Beacon Typing (MPC) (OEM)   16
 Aegis Guardian Fleet              68  Max the Dragon (PC/Mac)           55
 Aesopolis (Mac)                   69  Mayo Clinic (MPC) (OEM)           18
 Aesop's Fables (eBook)            40  Mayo Clinic (Mac) (OEM)           24
 AGFA Intro PAC - 20 Typefaces     82  MCS CD Master                     29
 Airbrush Portfolio (PC/Mac)       69  MCS SOund Review vol. 1           39
 Air Warrier                       58  Media Clips 3-pack (MPC) (OEM)    45
 Aircraft Encyclopedia             27  Mega A/V                          26
 Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp    34  Mega Clipart (OEM)                27
 Aladdin's Lamp (EA) (DOS)         47  Mega CD-ROM v.1                   20
 All American Sports               47  Mega CD-ROM v.2                   26
 All Music Guide                   55  Mega Media I                      26
 Aloha, Hawaii!                    20  Mega Movie Guide                  39
 Alone in the Dark                 69  Mega ROM 3.2 (Mac)                89
 Amanda Stories (MPC)              41  Mega WinOS/2                      26
 Amanda Stories (Mac)              49  Megarace                          59
 Amazing Universe (PC/Mac)         59  Microcosm                         85
 America Adventure                 69  Microprose CD Sampler             15
 America Alive Guidedisc (DOS)     59  Microprose Collection (OEM)       28
 America Alive Guidisc (Mac)       87  Microsoft Bookshelf '93 (OEM)     38
 American Business Phone Book '92  14  Microsoft Golf                    45
 American Business Phone Book '93  25  Microsoft Mozart                  54
 American Heritage Ilus Ency Dict  50  Microsoft Multimedia Pack (OEM)   69
 American Journey 1896-1945        45  Microsoft Musical Inst. (Mac)     79
 American Vista Atlas (MPC) (OEM)  27  Microsoft Stravisky               54
 American Vista Atlas (Mac)        60  Microsoft Works (OEM)             38
 America's Premier Shareware       14  Middle East Diary                 26
 Americans in Space (PC/Mac)       57  MIDI Connection                   56
 Aminet                            15  MIDI Music Shop for Windows       17
 Anecdotes v.1                     14  Midnight Movie Madness            49
 Anecdotes v.2                     14  Might and Magic: World of Xeen    69
 Anecdotes v.3                     14  Mixed Up Mother Goose (OEM)       17
 Anglo-Saxons                      44  Monarch Notes (PC/Mac)            40
 Animal Alphabet (MPC)             49  Money, Money, Money! (OEM)        19
 Animal Kingdom (PC/Mac)           39  Monster Disk (2 discs)            30
 Animal Tales                      59  Monster Media '93                 23
 Animals Encyclopedia (MPC) (OEM)  27  Monster Media '93 #2              28
 Animals in Motion                 40  Mosaic Magic                      29
 Animals San Diego Zoo (DOS) (OEM) 19  Mosaic Magic (Mac)                49
 Animals San Diego Zoo (MPC) (OEM) 20  Mother of All Clip Art            14
 Animals San Diego Zoo (Mac) (OEM) 23  Motion Picture Guide              89
 Animation Festival (MPC) (OEM)    20  Movie Select                      55
 Animation Magic (Win)             58  Movie Select (Mac)                55
 Annabel's Dream Ancient Egy (Mac) 55  Movies on TV and Video (PC/Mac)   34
 Annabel's Dream Medival Eng (DOS) 69  Mowgli's Brothers                 36
 Annabel's Dream Medival Eng (Mac) 69  Mozart (MPC) (OEM)                20
 APL Volume I                      19  Mozart Multimedia Musicbook       37
 Apollo 8 Go For TLI               30  Mozart Multimedia Musicbook (Mac) 38
 Arcade                            45  Mozart: Dissonant Quartet         49
 Archives of History (DOS)         65  MPC Wizard (OEM)                  14
 Archives of History (Mac)         69  MS Art Gallery                    79
 Arctic Baron                      39  MS Art Gallery (Mac)              79
 Art Appeal Series                 89  MS-DOS Explorer 3                 35
 Art of Ancient Egypt v.4          65  Multi Bible                       89
 Art of Renaisance II              95  Multimedia Animal Encyc. (Mac)    59
 Art Library 3 Pack                89  Multimedia Audio Collection       30
 Arthur Teacher Troubl (MPC) (OEM) 22  Multimedia Audubon Birds (PC/Mac) 19
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble (Mac)    49  Multimedia Audbn Mammals (PC/Mac) 19
 ASP Advantage                     20  Multimedia Environments           29
 Astrology Source (PC/Mac)         59  Multimedia Handisc (Mac)          87
 Atlas of U.S. Presidents          26  Multimedia Magic Collection       15
 Audioshop (Mac)                   75  Multimedia Mania                  19
 Authorware Star (MPC) (OEM)       34  Murder Makes Strange Deadfellows  45
 Autodesk Explorer                 85  Murmurs of Earth (3 disc) (PC/Mac 44
 B17 Flying Fortress/S.S. II (OEM) 30  Music Magic                       39
 Baccus and Comus (Mac)            50  Musical World Pro Piccolo         69
 Backroad Racers                   59  Mutanoid Math & Word Challenge    39
 Baker's Dozen Game Pack Windows   15  MVP Game Jamboree                 12
 Barney Bear Goes to School        14  My Advanced Label Designer        54
 Barney Bear Goes to Space         14  The Myst (Mac)                    79
 Barron's Book Notes (OEM)         30  NAFTA on CD-ROM (PC/Mac)          89
 Barron's Book Notes (Mac)         74  Napoleonics                       59
 Baseball's Greatest Hits (Mac)    59  National Parks of America (PC/Mac 69
 Battle Chess (original) (OEM)     20  National Parks Guide (MPC)        54
 Battle Chess (enhanced) (OEM)     25  National Parks (MPC) (OEM)        20
 Battle Chess (enhanced) (Mac)     68  Nature Graphics I                 26
 Beauty and the Beast (OEM) (MPC)  17  Nautilus Backpack Vol.II          41
 Beethoven: The 9'th Symphony      79  Nautilus Backpack Vol. III        69
 Berlitz Thnk Tlk French (PC/Mac) 105  Nautilus Backpack v.3 (Mac)       69
 Berlitz T & T German (PC/Mac)    109  Nautilus Backpack v.4 (Mac)       69
 Berlitz T & T Italian (PC/Mac)   129  Nautilus Backpack v.5 (Mac)       69
 Berlitz T & T Spanish (PC/Mac)   109  Nautilus Best of MIDI (PC/Mac)    79
 Best Business                     25  Nautilus Best of Ent. v.1 (Mac)   54
 Best of Macintosh Shareware       49  Nautilus Best of Photography      69
 Best of Microprose                22  Nautilus Intro (OEM)              19
 Better H&G Gardening (PC/Mac)     69  Naval Pack                        69
 Better H&G Hlthy Cooking (PC/Mac) 57  Nebula for NextStep               35
 Between Heaven and Hell 2         40  New Basics Electronic Cookbook    58
 Bible Lands and Stories           40  New Basics Electronic Cookb (OEM) 24
 Bible Library                     69  New Family Bible (MPC/Mac)        49
 Bible Library  (OEM)              24  New Kid on the Block
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10567
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94  4:00p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 5 OF 5                Refer: NONE
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 Interactive Story Time 3          20  U.S. Civics                       26
 International Business/Econ Atla  16  U.S. History (OEM)                22
 International Intel. Factbook     59  U.S. History (Mac)                35
 Internet Docs                     24  U.S. Presidents (OEM)             27
 Internet Info                     24  U.S. Presidents (Mac)             39
 Introduction to Classical Music   45  U.S. / World Atlas                20
 Iron Helix                        75  U.S.A. East/West                 109
 Iron Helix (Mac)                  60  U.S.A. State Factbook             29
 Island Designs (2 disc) (OEM)     28  U.S.A. State Factbook (update)    22
 It All Started w/George Prsdnts   99  U.S.A. Tour                       31
 It's a Dog's Life                 53  U.S.A. Wars: Civil War (OEM)      27
 It's a Wonderfull Life (OEM)      19  U.S.A. Wars: Desert Storm (OEM)   30
 ITN World News 1992 (MPC)         60  U.S.A. Wars: Korea (OEM)          29
 ITN World News 1992 (Mac)         99  U.S.A. Wars: Vietnam (OEM)        25
 J. Schumaker New Prague Cookbook  26  U.S.A. Wars: World War II (OEM)   27
 Jack and the Beanstalk            41  USA Today: The 90's v.1           55
 Japan Business Travel             37  User's Choice Windows             19
 Jazz: A Multimedia History (MPC)  68  VGA Spectrum #1                   10
 Jazz: A Multimedia History (Mac)  59  VGA Spectrum #2                   15
 Jazz Traditions                   45  Victor Maxx Virtual Arcade        69
 JCSM Shareware Collection         19  Victor Vector: Vamp. Coffin (OEM) 36
 Jets and Props (OEM)              19  Victor Vector: Vamp. Coffin (Mac) 67
 JFK Assasination: Visual Invstgt. 39  Victor Vector Last Dino Egg (OEM) 39
 JFK Assassination Encyclopedia    39  Victor Vector Last Dino Egg (Mac) 67
 Jokes and Pranks                  10  Victor Vector Hypnotic Harp (OEM) 39
 Jones in the Fast Lane (OEM)      17  Victor Vector: Cyber. Form. (OEM) 39
 Journey to the Planets            69  Victor Vector: Telf. Ray    (OEM) 45
 Journeyman Project (MPC)          60  Video Cube Space                  69
 Journeyman Project (Mac)          50  Video Cube Sports                 69
 Jump Raven (Mac)                  69  Video for Windows                 36
 Jurassic Dinosaurs (OEM)          24  Video Movie Guide (MPC/Mac)       35
 Jurassic Dinosaurs (Mac)          49  Vietnam Explorer                  30
 Jurassic Park                     64  View from Earth                   60
 Just Fonts                        20  View from Earth (Mac)             75
 Just Games                        19  Viking Opera Guide                99
 Just Grandma and Me (OEM)         29  Virtual 3D                        29
 Just Grandma & Me (Mac)           48  Virtual Murder (MPC)              69
 Jutland                           41  Virtual Reality Starter Kit       50
 Kaa's Hunting                     35  Virus Killer Pro                  49
 Kaboom  (PC/Mac)                  49  Visions of Saturn                 20
 Kaleidosconics (MPC)              26  Vista Pro v3.0                   129
 Kathy Smith's Fat Burning System  59  Vital Signs (Mac)                 69
 KGB/CIA World Factbook (OEM)      33  Vitsie Visits Dinosaurs (PC/Mac)  39
 KGB World Fact Book               23  Vitsie Visits Outer Spce (PC/Mac) 39
 Key Fonts Pro (PC/Mac)            30  Vitsie Visits The Ocean (PC/Mac)  39
 Key Home Designer                 29  Vivaldi                           29
 Kid Fun                           46  Vivaldi (Mac)                     38
 Kid Works 2 (PC/Mac)              59  Vocabulearn French                46
 Kids Can Read: Aesop's Fables     26  Vocanulearn French (Mac)          49
 Kids Can Read: Benjamin Bunny     26  Vocabulearn Spanish               46
 KCR: Cinderella (PC/Mac)          26  Vocanulearn Spanish (Mac)         49
 KCR: Heather Hits First Home Run  23  Wacky Funsters!                   26
 KCR: Long Hard Day at the Ranch   26  Washington D.C. at it's Best      20
 KCR: Moving Gives Me Stomachache  23  Washington Times/Insight on News 119
 Kids Can Read: Mud Puddle         26  Wave Pool                         16
 Kids Can Read: Paper Bag Princess 26  Way Cool Windows                  19
 KCR: Scary Poems for Rotten Kids  26  Wayzata Desktop Pub. Bundle      129
 KCR: The Tale of Peter Rabbit     26  Wayzata Entertainment Bund (Mac) 129
 Kids Can Read: Thomas's Snowsuit  30  Wayzata Multimedia Bundle        129
 Kids Collection                   19  Wayzata Reference Bundle         129
 Kids Zoo                          69  Wayzata World Factbook '93 (OEM)  17
 Kids Zoo (Mac)                    69  Whale of a Tale                   60
 King Arthur Magic (Mac)           49  Whale of a Tale (Mac)             89
 King James Bible                  21  Whales and Dolphins               69
 King's Quest V (OEM)              17  Where in USA is Carmen Deluxe     69
 King's Quest VI (OEM)             28  Where World Carmen Deluxe (OEM)   23
 King's Quest VI (Upgrade)         30  Where World Carmen Deluxe (Mac)   69
 King's Ransom                     43  White Horse Child (OEM)           24
 Klotski Polish Puzzle             14  White Horse Child (Mac)           46
 Knowlage Adventure                64  Who Killed Sam Rupert? (OEM)      26
 Kodak Photo CD Access (OEM)       14  Wild Learning Safari              31
 Kodak Photo CD Access (Mac) (OEM) 18  Wild Places (OEM)                 16
 La Coleccion                      20  Wild Wierd and Wacky              79
 Labyrinth of Time                 57  Wild Wierd and Wacky (Mac)        79
 LAN Master                        23  Wildcat! Gold                     35
 Lands of Lore                     61  WinCD                             39
 Language Discovery                48  WinCD (OEM)                       24
 Language Discovery (Mac)          49  Wind in the Willows               69
 Language Discovery (OEM)          36  Window Master                     19
 Languages of the World (MPC)(OEM) 25  Windoware                         12
 Laser Printer Companion (OEM)     14  Windows 1993                      21
 Lasersoft Animal Magic            29  Windows Collection                26
 Lasersoft Banners                 26  Windows Explorer 2                30
 Lasersoft Clip Art and Fonts      26  Windows Heaven                    28
 Lasersoft Labels                  29  Windows Shareware Gold Vol. 3 #1  20
 Lasersoft Pinball                 26  Wines of the World (PC/Mac)       55
 Lasersoft Publisher               39  Wing Commander / Ultima VI (OEM)  19
 Lasersoft Video Gambling          26  Wing Cmmdr/Secret Miss. 1&2       68
 Last Chance to See (Mac)          41  Wing Commander II/Ult. Undw (OEM) 40
 Lawnmower Man (MPC)               69  Wing Commander II Deluxe          50
 Lawnmower Man (Mac)               69  Winning Elections (PC/Mac)        45
 Leader Board Collection           26  Wiz-Pak 6-pak CD-ROM              13
 Learn to Play Guitar (MPC)        39  Wizard of Oz                      59
 Learn to Speak English (MPC 2D)   69  Wolfpack                          49
 Learn to Speak English (Mac 2D)   89  Women in Motion                   56
 Learn to Speak French (Mac 2D)    89  Women of Venus                    26
 Learning Adventure                10  Word Tales (PC/Mac)               49
 Learning At Home: Berenstein Bear 39  World Atlas 3.0 (Mac) (OEM)       24
 Learning Fly Fishing              29  World Atlas 4.0 (MPC) (OEM)       20
 Learning Fun for Kids             29  World Circuit                     69
 Learning Heaven                   15  World Literatary Heritage         69
 Legend of Kyrandia (OEM)          34  World of Animals (Nt Ggrph) (OEM) 34
 Legend of Kyrandia (Mac)          68  World of Computer Software        33
 Legend of Oz (PC/Mac)             69  World of Shareware                35
 Leisure Suit Larry I              54  World of Software 1               29
 Leisure Suit Larry VI             69  World of Software 2               29
 Lenny's Music Tunes (DOS)         42  World of Software 3               29
 Lenny's Music Tunes (Mac)         48  World of Software Bundle          49
 Lesko's Information USA           52  World Religions                   30
 Let's Go Budget Guide CA & HI '93 25  World Traveller Vol. 1            12
 Let's Go Budget Guide US (PC/Mac) 25  World View (PC/Mac)               31
 Libris Britania                   34  World View (OEM)                  17
 LifeMap: Animals (Mac)            35  World Vision (3 discs)            38
 LifeMap Animals w/ Backbone (Mac) 35  World Vista Atlas (MPC)           40
 LifeMap: Organic Diversity (Mac)  35  World Vista Atlas (Mac)           59
 Lifestyles of Rich Fame. Cookbook 30  World War II                      39
 Lightning (cache program)         69  Worldwide Adventures              46
 Line and the Shape Eater          34  Wrath of the Demon                39
 Links Collectors CD               40  Wrath of the Demon (OEM)          19
 Linkworlds                        33  Wrath of the Gods (PC/Mac)        69
 LINUX / GNU / X-Windows           29  Writing Center (Mac)              99
 Lion's Share                      34  X11R5 / GNU                       20
 Little Red Riding Hood            46  Yearn to Learn Peanuts            65
 Loom (OEM)                        17  Yearn to Learn Snoopy             65
 Loon Magic                        59  Yoga (Multimedia)                 30
 Lord of the Rings Enhanced        50  Zillion Sounds                    25
 Lost in Time                      39
 Lost Treasures of Infocom I       50
 Lost Treasures of Infocom II      38  Jewel Cases 50/$30 10/$7  5/$4  1/$1
 Lotus 1-2-3 v3.1 (OEM)            79  Caddies    50/$215 10/$46 5/$24 1/$5

 I also carry the complete Ziff Press and IDG (DOS for Dummies, etc.) lines
 of books.


 * SLMR 2.1a * No good deed goes unpunished.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10568
  To: TOM HARPER                               Date: 01/14/94  3:28p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1 OF 4                Refer: NONE
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> :>> Brice's Library
> > starts with "Section 1 of 4" and that's the last we see.  Where
> > are sections 2 thru 4?

>Yes, we see the same here...  Only one message.

 I'm working on that - this message should be immediately preceded by a "5 of
5" message.

 I HATE "stupid dupe checkers" that don't bother to compare the message
TEXT....

 8-<


 * SLMR 2.1a * Quadrophilia - a liking for 4-channel music systems....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10569
  To: SAM BECKWITH                             Date: 01/14/94  3:29p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE                        Refer: NONE
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>11/93.....................................  $16.00 Cream of the Crop
>2........................................  $19.00 Cream of the Crop II
>10/93.................................  $19.00 Ham Radio & Scanner Companion

 Try putting a single space at the START of each line - your current format is
VERY difficult to read....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Don't ask me, I was hired for my looks.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10570
  To: DAN HAAS                                 Date: 01/14/94  3:32p
Subj: CUSTOM CDROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>What If I want 2000 copies of the same disk duplicated?  what is the fee?

 For that size of an order, you likely want to deal with one of the "major" CD-
ROM producers like Disc Manufacturing Inc. (Terre Haute, div. of Sony/CBS) or
Nautilus or such.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Cat philosophy: It doesn't hurt to ask for what you want.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10571
  To: BILL GREEN                               Date: 01/14/94  3:33p
Subj: SONY EXTERNAL CDROM FOR S               Refer: NONE
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>In contrast to some of the junk that is being marketed these days, SONY drives
>are built to last forever and have consistently set the industry standard for
>overall performance.

 One of 2 right - Sony tends to be reliable, but NEC and Pioneer tend to set
industry performance standards.


 * SLMR 2.1a * REAL Programmers can't do code while wearing a tie!

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 10572
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  9:46a
Subj: CD-ROM Disks                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROMS for Sale

Software Options CD from IBM ...................  $13
The World Factbook - DOS ....................... SOLD
Calculus (Anton) 1st 3 chapters ................  $20
Loom ...........................................  $22
Tax-Prep 1993 ..................................  $12
CD-ROM Premier .................................  $12
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $14
PC Globe, PC USA and Automap ................... SOLD
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $59
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $ 9
PC Sig Library 9th edition ..................... SOLD
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $14
Sneek Peeks from Sierra ........................  $13
Corel Art Show 3 with large Book ............... SOLD
Phoenix-CD Version 3.0 .........................  $12
Chessmaster 3000 ...............................  $22

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ I'm no longer young enough to know it all


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 10573
  To: BOB ROSOL                                Date: 01/15/94 11:24a
Subj: MS Dinosaurs,Beethoven,et               Refer: NONE
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BR>        MS Dinosaurs
BR>        MS Musical Instruments
BR>        MS Beethoven
BR>        Also 1991 MS Bookshelf for DOS- $25

           I'll offer $69 including shipping for the package above
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ I'm no longer young enough to know it all


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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 10574
  To: BILL ROGERS                              Date: 01/15/94 12:41p
Subj: Files.BBS et al                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <01-10-94 08:22> Bill Rogers wrote:

BR>> As a sysop, I am hoping to hear an answer about a very excellent
BR>> question asked....

BR>> If Southern Beauties is not for BBS use then why have a FILES.BBS
BR>> in each directory??  This seems like a terrible oversite on your
BR>> part.  I can think of *NO* reason why anyone would put a FILES.BBS
BR>> in a directory, unless they wanted to use the disk on a QuickBBS
BR>> type system.

BR>> It sounds like a good idea though.  See this way you can make the
BR>> sysops think it's ok to have on line, then smack... slap them with
BR>> a lawsuit. You might make more money this way than selling disks,
BR>> right?  Maybe that was your intention all along???  How would I or
BR>> any other BBS operator know...

As so accurately stated by Bob Jackson in his review of Southern Beauties:

"The CD "Southern Beauties" does indeed contain several text files in
various directories that are uniformly named "FILES.BBS" (F.B).  GIoF has
                                                                 ^^^^ ^^^
taken pains both in this echo, in some files on the CD itself, and in
^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^ ^^ ^^^^ ^^^^  ^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^ ^^^ ^^ ^^^^^^  ^^^ ^^
SB's packaging to say that SB's images are NOT to be used on a BBS for
^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^ ^^ ^^^^ ^^ ^ ^^^ ^^^
downloading."
^^^^^^^^^^^

I hope that you will be able, in the future, to comprehend what you read
if you will take the time to do so.

Mr. Jackson continues:

"Questions have been raised regarding that stance and the existence of F.B.
- the two things seemingly in contradiction with each other.  One possible
answer to this paradox comes in multiple parts:

First, and to satisfy a relevant point that has also been recently raised,
these files do indeed follow the format of the original F.B specification:
file names begin in column 1 followed by a 45 character (or less) file
description beginning in column 14.

Secondly, the F.B files that accompany the images in their respective
directories are 100% useless for a BBS because each description is
identical.  Each and every image description says only that the file is
copyrighted material of GIoF.  At first glance, this may raise the
question of why put such a F.B on the CD if it's useless. That may be the
whole point.  It is part of GIoF's attempt to ensure that SB won't be used
on a BBS.  After all, with a meaningless F.B, a sysop would have to either
generate actual descriptions for some 1200+ files - something that's likely
to make him miss Monday Night Football at least - or be content to listen
to endless gripes from his users that the descriptions are useless.
Neither is a productive pursuit.  One could argue that simply leaving off
F.B. altogether achieves the same result which would seem a reasonable
conclusion. An alternate answer is that F.B generation is more-or-less a
by-product of the manufacturing process which is easier to make useless
than to delete.  I can't answer that point with any insight.

Thirdly, there are a few truly usable F.B on SB.  These are in the UTILITY
directory, the VPIC directory, and the HELP directory. Reading through
them with a text file viewer was educational.  I expect that using the F.B
template provided GIoF with a handy and intuitive way to place such helpful
data on their product."


BR>> So... In the immortal words of Beavis & Butthead "Huh huh.. Your
BR>> pretty cool Dave".  Oh BTW... I think your wrong charging a fee for
BR>> adult access. Just because *alot of* BBS's in central Florida charge
BR>> access does not mean that elsewhere in the real world they do.  For
BR>> the ones that are running jukebox ROM's, etc... sure bye the BB disc,
BR>> license it, etc.  Not only can BBS's like this afford it, they
BR>> probably do charge access of 30-60$ per year.  But for the other BBS's
BR>> that comprise 70-80%+, one CD ROM drive systems, why would they pay
BR>> this.  What is nominal to you kinda seems totally unreasonable to me.
BR>> You could have the best product in the world, but if you don't no how
BR>> to market it, you have NOTHING.

Mr. Rogers, I am certainly not holding a gun to your head forcing you to
either purchase or license Bodacious Beauties.  You certainly have a right
to your opinion.  There are quite a few SYSOPS who have called and are
anxious to purchase and license the disc.

BR>> I have left other posts in other mail conferences, and on other mail
BR>> networks, but I assume you only read this one.  Good choice!  This is
BR>> the only echo that I have seen that would let you get away with the
BR>> daily flames you give out.  RIME or Intelect would NEVER allow this.


You are correct, I do not read the other mail conferences.  I barely have
the time to read this one.  As to the "daily flames" I supposedly give out,
I have ONLY RESPONDED to posts sent to or about me.  The only difference
between me and everyone else is that I capture and respond to the ENTIRE
post not ignoring what I don't like or do not wish to answer (nor do I take
anything out of context).


BR>> As far as your partner, Blaine R. Richard III being the "Greatest Guy
BR>> in the world...", if this is true why do I constantly see mail messages
BR>> stating that "Blaine never sent the disk", "Blaine won't call me back",
BR>> etc.  Even if he is *SO GREAT*, why would anyone do business with
BR>> someone that has a history of this type of activity.

I don't recall saying Blaine was the "Greatest Guy in the world...".  I do
recall saying:

"I am proud to advise that Blaine R. Richard III is a full partner with me
in Graphical Images of Florida (50/50)! I'm damn lucky to have him!  When
you see the new GUI interface, which he is mainly responsible for working
with our programmer on, you will see why I am glad to have him.

Blaine is not in the habit of ripping people off.  I do not form partner-
ships (especially 50/50) with people I do not trust!! As a matter of fact,
Blaine is a very generous person and helps people out whenever he can with
a great deal of patience and generosity."

I realize if you watch Beavis & Butthead, you aren't the most enlightened
person in the world, but you can't believe everything you hear and read
about a person.  I prefer facts or making up my own mind.

BR>> And.... as far as the constant abuse of Lee Noga/Lion's Den and other
BR>> people... stop wasting mine and everyone else's time with this
BR>> nonsense! GROW UP!!  It's very clear to me and probably others that
BR>> you have this male complex ego thing going on and can't take it when
BR>> a woman beats you!

BR>> Time to wake up Dave, your not the only game in town...

As I said above I ONLY RESPONDED to what Ms. Noga or anyone else wrote to
or about me.  I am certainly in your debt for your analysis of my ego.  I
was unaware that Ms. Noga beat me or that we were even in a contest.  You
are certainly correct about me not being the only game in town, and you are
welcome to play with someone else.

Thank you so much for your post and have a great day!  
 
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From: LARRY ADAMSON                          Number: 10575
  To: DANNY BRIGANCE                           Date: 01/16/94  5:26a
Subj: Re: CDROM's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Danny, I'll offer $10 each for Cookbook Heaven and Bible Library plus shipping.
Call (303)426-9062 if interested. 

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From: LARRY ADAMSON                          Number: 10576
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 01/16/94  6:23a
Subj: Re: Phonebook Cd                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Chris, if you get no other offers , I'll give you $50 for the phonebook set.
Call (303)426-9062 or Net 1:104/427 if interested. 

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From: GREG MEARS                             Number: 10577
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  5:08p
Subj: Hitachi Card?                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone out there know where I can get a controller card for Hitachi 1503s
External CDROMS????


Greg


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From: LOUIS DIGGS                            Number: 10578
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 01/16/94  3:51p
Subj: % CD-ROM Disks                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Gene, I am interested in some of your discs, but can you tell me first which
can be used on my Macintosh. I have an Apple CD-ROM 300.
Thanks for your reply. 
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From: LOUIS DIGGS                            Number: 10579
  To: JEFF BLYSTONE                            Date: 01/16/94  4:01p
Subj: CD's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jeff, I'm interested if they are compatable with the Macintosh. Please let me
know.
Thanks 
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From: LOUIS DIGGS                            Number: 10580
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 01/16/94  4:16p
Subj: cdroms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Eric, can you give me a bit of background on the Space and Astronomy disc. I
have a Macintosh, will it work on it.
Thanks for your reply. 
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From: LOUIS DIGGS                            Number: 10581
  To: DON ROBINSON                             Date: 01/16/94  4:18p
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Don, will they operate on a Macintosh?
Thanks for a reply. 
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From: LOUIS DIGGS                            Number: 10582
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/16/94  4:24p
Subj: PRICE LIST PART 4 OF 4                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Brice, thanks for referring me to your price list. Prices seems nice, but I
cannot tell which games are for the Macintosh.
I guess you can tell I'm quite new to using the CD-ROM, but I do have a Mac,
and would like to invest in a couple of interactive games.
Could you give me a list of the games I could play.
Thanks.

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From: LOUIS DIGGS                            Number: 10583
  To: SCOTT WILLIS                             Date: 01/16/94  4:27p
Subj: for sale/trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Scott, I'm interested in buying the game. Can you tell me first if it is
compatable to a Macintosh?
Thanks for your reply. 
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From: LOUIS DIGGS                            Number: 10584
  To: SAM BECKWITH                             Date: 01/16/94  4:29p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sam, they look like some interesting games. Can you tell me if any are
compatable with the Macintosh?
Thanks 
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From: JIM ST. JOHN                           Number: 10585
  To: RICK SHELTON                             Date: 01/16/94 11:44a
Subj: busty babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


Rick do you have BB Vol #1 for sale?  I will pay $50+shipping.
Lv a fone# and I will call you.
-jim-


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From: ALAN JERIC                             Number: 10586
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 01/16/94 12:17a
Subj: CD-ROM's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm not sure if you got the other message I sent but I wnated to know
if I would have any problems hooking up a few of your CD drives to my system. I
have used up all my power and interface cords. Will that be a problem, will I
need to install anything special to hook them up? And
can I add any CD drive to the external case or only the ones you have.
I'd REALY like to order a couple of drives. 
                Thanks,
                        Alan

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 10587
  To: ALAN JERIC                               Date: 01/16/94  9:34a
Subj: CD-ROM's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 Alan   Jeric   wrote   in  a    message    to    Terry    Blount:

AJ> I'm not sure  if  you  got  the  other  message  I  sent  but  I
AJ> wnated to know if I would have any problems  hooking  up  a  few
AJ> of your CD drives to my system. I have  used  up  all  my  power
AJ> and interface cords.

 These drives have to use their own interface card that cost  $60.
 You can run up to 8 of these drives on that card.   All you  need
 is an open 8 bit slot on your motherboard.

AJ> Will that be a problem, will I need to
AJ> install anything special to hook them up? And
AJ> can I add any CD drive to the external case  or  only  the  ones
AJ>  you  have.  I'd  REALY  like  to  order  a  couple  of  drives.

 You can put any half-high devices you like in the external  case.
 I sell them to people who put in tape backups floppy drives  etc.

 I need your address if you want me to ship your order...  or  you
 can bring your system to me in Bayou La Batre  and  I'll  install
 the drives for $20.

Thanks

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From: JEFF BAKALCHUCK                        Number: 10588
  To: KEITH SHEEHAN                            Date: 01/16/94 11:04a
Subj: OS/2 2.0 CD-ROMS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KS>I wish to find out from you users out there which of the currently available
KS>OS/2 2.x dedicated CD-ROMs is the best? I want to have an unbiased opinion
KS>from those who actually use them. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
KS>Thanx in advance.


Personally I like the Hobbes Disk from Walnut Creek.

Jeff Bakalchuck
Team OS/2


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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 10589
  To: CHIP SLATE                               Date: 01/19/94  1:54a
Subj: Re: Os/2                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Chip Slate to All <=-

 CS> I'm debating whether or not to get Os/2...I don't know much about it
 CS> could someone fill me in on its advantages over windows??
 CS> C-Ya,Chip Slate

It really depends on what you want out of your machine....Windows is a
16-bit GUI that runs on top of a very restrictive operating system (DOS).
This limit imposes the same limits on Windows, but Windows does it's best
to overcome that by various tricks (grabs EMS/XMS to give you more memory
if you have it, or grabs your hard disk space and uses that as memory, etc).
OS/2, on the other hand, is a true 32-bit operating system which does not
have the limitations of DOS.  In fact, it emulates DOS and Windows in order
to allow you to run those types of applications.  You can run all 3 types
(OS/2, Windows and DOS) of applications at the same time if you want.  And,
unlike Windows, if you get a GPF (General Protection Fault) running a
Windows app under OS/2, you just close that app and go on your merry way,
no rebooting.  The OS/2 desktop (Workplace Shell) is a little confusing at
first, but VERY intuitive once you get used to it.  If you've ever run
Norton's Desktop for Windows, you got a feel for OS/2's desktop....icons go
on the desktop in any fashion you want.

Just a few things about OS/2 that I like <grin>
 
... Bigamy: one wife too many.  Monogamy: same idea.
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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 10590
  To: ROB O'DELL                               Date: 01/19/94  2:30p
Subj: FAO and shareware                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Rob,
    Sure, I'm kinda interested in the Comptons Encyclopedia and maybe
the 2 adult discs, let me know what ya wanna trade for it. If ya wanna
trade 2 discs or 1 and some cash thats fine with me, if ya wanna call me
at
Sam Figueroa
Sam's Software
(615) 728-7383
    I'd be glad to workout a deal with ya!
                                       Thanks
If I mistyped my number its 615-728-7383
              Sam Figueroa
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From: JEFF BLYSTONE                          Number: 10591
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 01/18/94  7:25a
Subj: Re: CD's for sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I now realize you already put your address on the first message.  So just let
me know that you received my message to confirm the trade, and when you will
send CD.
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From: JAMES PARMER                           Number: 10592
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/17/94  7:45p
Subj: Price List                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

F                           CD-ROM Price List       updated 01/17/94
        * LTL Products * 1902 Bartley Road * LaGrange, Ga 30240 * 
                           Voice (706)884-2352

9000 Sounds                    20  MacMillian Dict. Children OEM    18
Airbrush Profolio              31  Mayo Clinic (OEM)                21
American Vista Atlas           26  Mega Media #1                    18 
Am. Bus. Phone Dir. W/zip      25  Mega Media #2                    18
America's Premier Shareware    14  Microsoft Bookshelf 93 MPC OEM   38 
Amsoft (ham radio sh'ware)     25  Mixed Up Mother Goose (OEM)      17
Animals-zoo (MPC) (OEM)        19  Monster Media 93 #2              23
Art Appeal- Business           23  Multimedia Animals Ency. MPC     24
Art Appeal-Educ & Leisure      23  Nature Graphics                  17
Art Appeal-Gov & Industry      23  Night OWL 10                     29
Arthurs Teacher Trouble-MPC    23  Night Owl Games                  19
A.S.P. (Sh'ware prof. assoc.)  19  Night Owl Graphics               24
Bibles & Religion              12  OS/2 Box                         20  
Cd Powerbox #2                 18  Our Solar System                 12
Classic Cars                   23  P.C. Sig 13                      17
Computer Reference Library     12  Pier 3                           26
ColorMagic PC/MAC              24  Places to Play                   27
Color Magic OEM                21  Precision Mapping                61
Cookbook U.S.A. Jr.            18  Profone 93 (7 disc set)          76
Dagger of Amon (OEM)           23  Publish It 2.0                   23
Dare, Bluff or Die             25  Publisher's Dream Disk           26
Dictionaries & Languages       12  Publisher's Paradise             20
Dinosaur Adventure OEM         19  Publisher's Paradise Pro         32 
Dr. Games  #2                  15  Publisher's Backgrounds          30
Dr. Music  #2                  15  Publisher's Platinum             17
Dr. Windows #2                 15  Resource Library-Audio           14
Eco-Quest  (OEM)               23  Resource Library-Graphics        14
Ency. of Sound                 12  Resource Library-Multimedia      14
Fantazia Fonts                 24  Sci-Fi Games & Trivia            21
Fingers for Windows OEM        23  Seventh Quest OEM                34
Fingers for Windows            36  Shareware 93 vol-2               20 
Flowering Plants               23  Shareware  Explorer (4 disc)     38 
Games 93                       24  Shareware Overload Trio          20
Games Platinum                 18  Shareware Studio #3              15
Gardening                      13  So Much  Shareware 93            23
Grolier's Ency.  ver6 MPC OEM  38  Software Jukebox                 20
Hacker Chronicles              27  Software Vault 3 (gold)          18
Ham Radio 3.0                  12  Space Adventure OEM              19
Home & Office Legal Guide      12  Space  Shuttle OEM               22
House  of Games #2             16  Straight From Heaven             18
Icons/Wallpaper & More         25  Tech Arsenel                     20
Kodak Photo CD                 16  Too  Many Typefonts              12
Kodak Photo CD w/Processing    29  Unix                             22
Lan Master                     21  U.S. History OEM                 25
Landscapes                     23  U.S. / World Atlas OEM           18
Language Discovery             22  Window Master                    19
Languages of the World OEM     21  Windoware                        13
Learning Heaven                18  Win Platinum                     17
Learning Lotus 1-2-3           21  Windows 93                       21
Learning Windows 3.1           21  World Atlas 4.0 OEM              18
Ledgend of Kyrandia (OEM)      23  
                                   
Caddies 4.75 Qty. discounts available
We accept cashier, company, personal checks, money orders
Shipping $4 up to 5 CD's, .50 each additional - COD add $5
Cannot accept credit cards at this time
Allow 7 days for checks to clear. Prices are U.S. funds 
Request catalog with complete description
Adult titles available - Send a copy of photo I. D. along with request

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From: MIKE LUTES                             Number: 10593
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/09/94 12:53a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!************* 
 
Me too, me too, send to me this wonderful offer. 
 
Mike Lutes 
3000 N. Grant, Box NP 231 
Springfield, Missouri 65803 
 þ SLMR 2.0 þ I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it? 
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From: STEVE PROCTOR                          Number: 10594
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/19/94 11:14p
Subj: Medical CD's                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

I am interesed in Medical CD's.  I am going for my EMT and was hoping to find a
few CD's out there that are related to the field.  I know there is one called
BodyWorks and the Family Doctor but wonder how good they are and what else is
out there?

Steve Proctor, Team-OS/2
Sproctor@netcom.com 
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From: SYSOP                                  Number: 10595
  To: CHRIS CONKLIN                            Date: 01/20/94  5:49a
Subj: Order?                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Chris,

    Haven't seen the disk you sent COD yet.  Any problem with the order? It was
SEEDY ROM 6 pack, some 3 disk set, and something else.....

===Bob Briggs

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From: FRANKY WONG                            Number: 10596
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/16/94  1:56p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Joe,

Please send me your catalog free, by email as I am preparing to give order...

For your reference, my mailing address is:

Franky Wong
HYATT REGENCY GUAM
1155 PALE SAN VITORES RD
TAMUNING
GAUM 96911

Franky



JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
JR>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
JR>If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
JR>We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
JR>CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
JR>        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
JR>    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
JR>Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
JR>P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
JR>Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: FRANKY WONG                            Number: 10597
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/16/94  2:02p
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi,

Is the SCSI controller card for NEC 3Xe, so that I can connect NEC 3Xe to SB16
SCSI-2 ASP?

Please give me quotation on:

1)      NEX 3Xe & SB16 SCSI-2 ASP
2)      TOSHIBA 3401 EXTERNAL & SB16 SCSI-2 ASP
3)      shipping (cheap ones) for either (1) or (2) above to Guam

Please include prices for cables if necessary.  I expect the drives and SB
package to be the same as if I buy retail (e.g. SB package contains CD, 9 s/w,
microphone...)

Please rush me information ASAP, by email or by fax 001-671-647-1238.

Thanks.
Franky


JR>CD-ROM Drives
JR>                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
JR>caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
JR>power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
JR>Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
JR>SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
JR>40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
JR>Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
JR>Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
JR>Shipping (drives)$25.00 for up to 2 drives,$40.00 for 3-4 drives.

JR>                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
JR>As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
JR>offering all
JR>refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit, to be
JR>shipped
JR>upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30 days for
JR>receipt of
JR>your refurbished drive.

JR>                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
JR>Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

JR>CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
JR>        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
JR>               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariat.org
JR>FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
JR>Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
JR>P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
JR>Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

JR>--- MsgToss 2.0c
JR> * Origin: "If you can't find it, call config.sys!" 216-296-2244 (1:157/479)
---
 þ OLX 2.1 TD þ MSI - Bringing it all together in '92


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From: FRANKY WONG                            Number: 10598
  To: SAM BECKWITH                             Date: 01/16/94  2:07p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please rush your catalog ASAP to:

Franky Wong
HYATT REGENCY GUAM
1155 PALE SAN VITORES RD
TAMUNING
GUAM 96911


Thanks.
 þ OLX 2.1 TD þ All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here.


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 10599
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/19/94  5:04p
Subj: NEW NIGHT OWL                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Boris!

Monday January 17 1994 01:15, Boris Osadciw wrote to All:

 BO>             N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E

 BO> * Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous Versions
 BO> * All Zipped Files      * New Viewer     * 60% Files Released last 90 days
 BO> "Night Owl 11. "  offer's over 5,000 all new files and supports for areas
 BO> such as Windows, OS/2, Games, Fonts, Ham Radio, Lan, Business and more !
 BO>            Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $80.00
 BO>    Best Of The Best - Night Owl 11. + Cream Of The Crop II - $150.00

Is the Night Owl 11 in stock, and ready to ship, or are you just pulling our
d!cks?

Later,

Dave

... Make a Liberal sweat and stutter, put him under Oath to tell the TRUTH

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From: ANGELLO HUONG                          Number: 10600
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 01/19/94 10:53p
Subj: Cd Trade?                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN>I have these discs to trade for other adult discs:
RN>Seedy Rom Seventh Heaven
RN>Adult Reference Library

I have Storm 2 & 3, and A.P.L Volume 1 (similar to Storm).  Will trade
for the two you have.  Drop me a line if your interested.
                 
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10601
  To: SCOTT RUBY                               Date: 01/18/94  4:52p
Subj: CD-ROM SOFTWARE 2 OF 2                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>AE>  WHERE IS CARMEN SAN DIE     $ 34.95

>Is this the "Deluxe version".

 Most likely yes.

>Is this new in the box with registration cards etc?

 Most likely the OEM (Jewel box ONLY) version.


 * SLMR 2.1a * You don't buy beer OR cola, just rent them for a while!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10602
  To: ROD WILEY                                Date: 01/18/94  4:56p
Subj: I WANT                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Hi all. Anyone out there have a cd game called Mad Dog Mcrea they wish to
sell?

 If you can't find it used, I carry it new at $35 (got one left in stock right
now), shipping included IF prepaid....

 Brice's Library
 5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
 Indianapolis, IN 46220

 (317) 726-1980 (Tu Th 11AM-8PM We Fr 11AM-6PM EST)


 * SLMR 2.1a * Kitten - The little cute form of pre-stubborness.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10603
  To: CHRIS CONKLIN                            Date: 01/18/94  4:57p
Subj: JFK AVAILABLE $39                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I am currently offering JFK for $39.00 plus shipping

 WHICH "JFK" is this?

 There are at least 2 on the market....


 * SLMR 2.1a * You own dogs, Cats own US!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10604
  To: GUY ROTTY                                Date: 01/18/94  4:59p
Subj: NEW 1994 CD-ROM LIST! PT1               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Mike, I'm interested in the following Cd-roms :

> Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..49.00

 I'd be interested where Mike is getting these if he comes up with it - all of
the distributors I deal with have been OUT for over a month now.

 'Course, he may have 100's in stock or something....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Fate protects fools, children, and ships named Enterprise

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10605
  To: DOUGLAS BELL                             Date: 01/18/94  6:03p
Subj: - RECORDABLE CD-ROM $3200               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Ricoh RS-9200CD External CD-Recorder 1.2mb cache, SCSI-2

>  Read's: CD-ROM, CD-ROM XA, CD-I Record's: CD-ROM, CD-ROM XA, CD-I, CD-DA

 Does CD-DA stand for "Compact Disc - Digital Audio" as in a standard CD?


 * SLMR 2.1a * If guns are outlawed, how can we shoot Fundimentalists?

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10606
  To: LOUIS DIGGS                              Date: 01/18/94  6:05p
Subj: CDROM SPECIALS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Doug, can you tell me if the US/World Atlas, etc, is compatable to the
>Macintosh?

 There are seperate Macintosh versions of those titles.


 * SLMR 2.1a * A Hug is a handshake from the Heart.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10607
  To: DICK WALSH                               Date: 01/18/94  7:38p
Subj: ADVERTISING                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I write this letter not to curb sales from Advertisers.  But I do think that
>the fact that they do advertise here and on the CDROM ECHO more than once a
>week is sort of redundant.

 I'd class it as a bit excessive - but can't say I see anyone doing ads more
than once a week on a regular basis.

 If you're seeing such, you MAY have some sort of a "dupe loop" problem in your
area....


 * SLMR 2.1a * AIDS is a virus; Bill Clinton is a punishment from Hell!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10608
  To: ROBERT MOORE                             Date: 01/18/94  7:39p
Subj: HITACHI 3600 CD ROM DRIVE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Thanks for the reply.  Is there a master list of which SCSI cards work with
>which Novell 3.12 drivers?

 Allways IN-2000 includes Novell 3.12 drivers with the card.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Real Multitasking: My computer does it, yours does not!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10609
  To: LOUIS DIGGS                              Date: 01/18/94  7:41p
Subj: TOSHIBA                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I'm afraid not, Tom. Would you by any chance know of anyone that would like to
>sell some used CD disks that are compatable to the Mac.

 It's not used, but Garbo at $14 (shipping included IF prepaid) is certainly
not "big bucks"....


 * SLMR 2.1a * "African or European?"

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10610
  To: TOM MILLER                               Date: 01/19/94  8:56a
Subj: QUICKEN CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Brice, have you seen or have a price on Quickens new CD?

 Just added it to the list - currently have it at $119, but I'm not sure how
competative that is, as I haven't seen any other price on it (yet).


 * SLMR 2.1a * Can you imagine 1,000 Cats agreeing to do *anything*?

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10611
  To: BARRY FOX                                Date: 01/19/94 12:09p
Subj: STRIKE COMMANDER CD                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Looking for a good price on Origin's Strike Commander on CD-ROM.  I have seen
>it retail for $69.95 at the local Electronics Boutique

 How about $69, shipping included IF prepaid?

 Save $.95 AND tax that way....


 * SLMR 2.1a * If you MUST "have a nice day", PLEASE do it elsewhere!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10612
  To: MIKE BILOW                               Date: 01/19/94 12:50p
Subj: INFO-MAGIC                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>Does anyone here carry the Info-Magic or Yggdrasil line of Unix-oriented
>>disks, such as Info-Magic "Internet Standards"?

> BF>  Not regularly, but I can special order anything Info-
> BF> Magic carries for you.

>Not to be rude, but so could I.  What would your prices be?

 Actually, I just found a distributor that I CAN afford to carry them regularly
from.

 Pricing right now is:

 Internet Tools - $30   Linux $13   Source Code $30   Standards $30
 Unix $30    UseNet $15

 Shipping included if prepaid.

 I've got one of the UseNet and one of the Linux in stock right now....


 * SLMR 2.1a * You want Programming jokes? C, GWBASIC, OOP, SNOBOL,...

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10613
  To: ROB O'DELL                               Date: 01/19/94  2:07p
Subj: SPECIAL                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Give me a price on 2 Pier 3's and 1 Cream of the Crop II.

 $66.

>Also, do you have any adult CDs?

 Nope.

> Monroe Net Host -  (1:2380/100)

 Which "Monroe" is this - that net number sounds vaguely familier....


 * SLMR 2.1a * I came, I saw, She conquered (original Latin was garbled)

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10614
  To: JAMES CLEVENGER                          Date: 01/19/94  2:09p
Subj: COMMODORE PD CD-ROM W                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Is there actually a CD-ROM drive that will work on the C-64 or C-128?

 Should be doable via the SCSI interface in the drives the Jiffy DOS folks make
- though drivers would be "fun" to write.


 * SLMR 2.1a * I've got a dream. Oh I know I could share it if you want

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10615
  To: CHIP SLATE                               Date: 01/19/94  2:11p
Subj: OEM                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Can someone please tell me what the !@#$% *OEM* means!!!>..

 In a CD-ROM context, OEM refers to a type of packaging - usually just the
jewel case and docs shrink-wrapped together, or docs small enough to fit IN the
jewel case, or occasionally the disc in a cardboard sleeve shrink-wrapped to
the docs. Such discs are INTENDED to be sold as part of a "bundle" with a
drive.


 * SLMR 2.1a * It got worse - you're NOT paranoid, they ARE after you!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10616
  To: ROD WILEY                                Date: 01/19/94  2:15p
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I'm looking for a cd game called Mad Dog Mcrea.

 Mad Dog McCree - I sell it new for $35.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Tulips on the Organ are better than Roses on the Piano...

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10617
  To: BARRY FOX                                Date: 01/19/94  2:21p
Subj: STRIKE COMMANDER CD                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> BF> Looking for a good price on Origin's Strike Commander on CD-ROM.

>We would have to charge you $62.95

 Give me a call - I MIGHT be able to better your current cost on that one (and
mabey a few others?).

 (317) 726-1980 (Tu Th 11-8 We Fr 11-6 EST)....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Smurfs do it 'till they're blue in the face....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10618
  To: BOBBY WIENHOLT                           Date: 01/19/94  2:22p
Subj: CD ROM LIST 1 OF 3                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


>Arthur's Teacher Trouble                               $40 Audubon's Mammals
>                                  $35 Battle Chess
>             $30 Beauty and the Beast                                   $30
>Bible Library                                          $40

 Scrambled. Try putting a single space at the START of each line.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Liberal should be a 4-letter word....

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From: PAUL LAUGHLIN                          Number: 10619
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/18/94  7:09p
Subj: Mitsumi Cd-Rom Drive For Sale.          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a 2 week old Mitsumi 300ms cd-rom Drive for sale...
I am asking $160.  This comes with Controller card and all books/software...

Thanks,  Paul Laughlin
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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 10620
  To: DAVID RYDER                              Date: 01/17/94  9:55p
Subj: Night Owl 11                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >     Leave me a message here, or r/o ->CRS on Rime CD-
 > Rom.


Did they check this one for virus

..Red..

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From: BRIAN KELLER                           Number: 10621
  To: MICHAEL DAUM                             Date: 01/19/94  9:56a
Subj: GAMES                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

maniac mansion comes with a lukis arts game call day of the tenticle.

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From: MICHAEL HADEN                          Number: 10622
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 01/20/94  9:30a
Subj: Storm I,ii,ii + Ecstasy H               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Diana what kind of cds are you looking for have several that I might be
willing to trade let me know TTYL



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From: MICHAEL HADEN                          Number: 10623
  To: DAVID HILL                               Date: 01/20/94  9:42a
Subj: Adult CD-ROM's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey David I have wing commander and ultima VI on one cd that I would be willing
to trade for adult cd stuff lets talk lv msg if interested...



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From: JOHN POE                               Number: 10624
  To: ROCKY HURLEY                             Date: 01/20/94 12:18p
Subj: !free cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I didn't see who was offering the free cat. would you tell me who
so I can drop them a line.

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From: ALAN ORNDORFF                          Number: 10625
  To: ANDRE CARRIERE                           Date: 01/19/94  6:40p
Subj: DISKPORT QUESTION                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AC>Can anyone tell me what a _DiskPort_ is, what is does and if you would
  >have an address where I can purchase one. I was told that you can connect
  >a CD-Rom to a network with this but why would one need a Diskport. any
  >information would be appreciated.

Basically, Novell 3.11 does NOT support CD-Roms.  There are a few ways
of doing it with third party support.  Discport allows your 3.11 server
to Mount up to 7 cd rom drives as accessable volumes under Netware.
Novell 3.12 and 4.x both support cd-roms, and this device may/may not be
needed if your on those versions.  Should be able to purchase from most
any retail store.

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From: GREG SCHAFFER                          Number: 10626
  To: SEAN CREIGH                              Date: 01/20/94  8:25a
Subj: Adult CD-ROM's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you still have Giffy Gold CD for sale?
       Greg

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From: STEVE EMGE                             Number: 10627
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/20/94  6:30p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
JR>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
JR>If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
JR>CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)44k


Hi Joe,

Please send a free copy of your CD-ROM Disc & accessories catalog to:

        Steve Emge
        7732 Middlegate Court
        Pasadena, Md. 21122-1854

I'm looking forward to shopping through your catalog as I just installed
my CD-ROM and am in pursuit of the best prices and service.
Thanks...



___
 X WinQwk 2.0 #0 X Unregistered Evaluation Copy

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10628
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/20/94  5:41a
Subj: !discounted Fedex shippin               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    It pleases us to announce that due to our growing shipping volume,
FedEXpress has become our preferred courier.  USPS Priority was our
preferred method, however,  recent performance such as week-long delays
and damaged jewel cases made us look elsewhere. We contacted all the
other couriers to see who would offer our customers the best deal.
FedEX won the bid by allowing us to offer their economy service, which
is as close to guaranteed two-day service as anyone will offer, for only
$3.00 additional over USPS priorty rates.  Of course, we will continue
to offer your preferred shipper, as we have accounts with all of the
major couriers. config.sys, Inc./ voice: 216.296.9831 data:216.296.2244

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10629
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/20/94  5:42a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
                        ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3600 CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee

                    ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee

                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
14.4 Power supply..................$10.00 ea.
external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
Shipping (drives)$25.00 for up to 2 drives,$40.00 for 3-4 drives.

                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****

As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
offering all refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit,
to be shipped upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30
days for receipt of your refurbished drive.

                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: MAJIC NAME: "CONFIG" gets all CD-ROM oriented files
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariat.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10630
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/20/94  5:42a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For 1,500+ CD-Titles & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip, descript.zip (or) MAJIC word CONFIG gets both
The Blue Parrot CD-ROM SUPPORT RBBS offers non-backboned echo config
for daily cdlist updates, news, game reviews, & more.
All config.sys cd-rom support files are available to all NEW users!

Fido: 1:157/479 - RBBS: 8:965/13 - Kesher: 18:711/176 - WWIV: 2@2659
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.|Voice: (216) 296.9831 or 296.4446 24hrs
P.O. Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240  |BBS/Fax: 216.296.2244 - 23hrs 16.8k ZYX
Internet: joe@config.wariat.org|>>>>>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<<<

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From: STEVE KELLY                            Number: 10631
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/18/94  4:20p
Subj: 4 $ale                                  Refer: NONE
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I have the following for sale, trade or best offer:

1) NEC SCSI CD-Rom Interface kit (Model CDXT003).  New --- $45.00 - OBO
2) ASP Advantage CD. (1st Addition) ---------------------- $12.50 - Firm

-= Steve =-

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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 10632
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/20/94  1:21a
Subj: All new Adult CD-ROM Catalog            Refer: NONE
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                      CMS, SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING 
                             P.O. BOX 165 
                         SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
                       ORDERS ONLY: 800-768-7929 
                       INFORMATION: 812-442-0110 
 
$5.00 STANDARD SHIPPING. 600+ MEG SHAREWARE CD $5.95 WITH ANY PURCHASE! 
 
101 SEX POSITIONS 1      $ 47.95  101 SEX POSITIONS 2         $ 47.95 
94-95 CD-X CALENDAR      $ 37.95  A.P.L. VOLUME #1            $ 37.95 
ADULT PALATE II          $ 39.95  ADULT PALATE                $ 37.95 
ADULT REFERENCE LIBRARY  $ 37.95  ADULTS ONLY XXX             $ 38.95 
AFTER DARK TRILOGY       $ 47.95  AMATEUR MODELS              $ 37.95 
AMERICAN GIRLS           $ 39.95  AMOROUS ASIAN GIRLS         $ 56.95 
ART PICKING UP GIRLS     $ 49.95  BARLOW AFFAIRS              $ 58.95 
BEST OF VIVID            $ 54.95  BETRAYAL                    $ 63.95 
BODY CELLO SAMPLER       $ 14.95  BUSTIN OUT                  $ 44.95 
BUSTY BABES VOLUME 2     $ 36.95  CALIFORNIA DAYDREAM         $ 39.95 
CAMP DOUBLE DD           $ 37.95  CAT & MOUSE                 $ 56.95 
COLLEGE GIRLS            $ 56.95  CONDO CUTIES                $ 49.95 
CREME DE LA CREME        $ 37.95  DEBBIE DOES DALLAS          $ 44.95 
DEEP THROAT              $ 44.95  DEVIL IN MISS JONES         $ 44.95 
DIGITAL DANCING          $ 56.95  DIGITAL DREAMS #2           $ 29.95 
DIGITAL DREAMS           $ 29.95  DIGITAL SEDUCTION           $ 39.95 
DIRTY TALK               $ 47.95  DONATELLI PORTFOLIO         $ 69.95 
DOORS OF PASSION         $ 53.95  DREAM MACHINE               $ 57.95 
DREAMLAND                $ 39.95  EROTICA                     $ 56.95 
EXOTIC GIRLS             $ 28.95  EXOTICA                     $ 49.95 
EXPOSE                   $ 37.95  EXTREME DELIGHTS            $ 37.95 
GIFFY GOLD               $ 34.95  GIRLS GIRLS GIRLS           $ 37.95 
GIRLS OF MARDI GRAS      $ 56.95  GIRLS OF RISQUE             $ 47.95 
GIRLS OF VIVID 1         $ 44.95  GIRLS OF VIVID 2            $ 44.95 
GIRLS STEPHEN HICKS      $ 39.95  GIRLS WITH GIRLS            $ 73.95 
GLAMOUR GIRLS 1943       $ 73.95  HEAVENLY BODIES 2           $ 73.95 
HEAVENLY BODIES 2        $ 73.95  HIDDEN OBSESSIONS           $ 59.95 
HIGH VOLUME NUDES        $ 37.95  HOUSE OF DREAMS             $ 59.95 
INFERNO-BEST OF          $ 63.95  INSATIABLE                  $ 47.95 
INTER ADULT ALMANAC      $ 89.95  INTER ADULT SAMPLER         $ 13.95 
ISLAND GIRLS 2           $ 28.95  L.A. STRIPPERS              $ 56.95 
LEGEND OF KAMA SUTRA     $ 54.95  LEGENDS OF PORN 2           $ 54.95 
LOADS OF FUN             $ 47.95  LOCAL GIRLS VOL 2           $ 28.95 
MAN ENOUGH               $ 74.95  MY FIRST TIME               $ 49.95 
MYSTIQUE OF ORIENT       $ 54.95  NEW WAVE HOOKERS 1          $ 44.95 
NEW WAVE HOOKERS 2       $ 44.95  NIGHTWATCH INTERACT         $ 49.95 
NORTHERN DELIGHTS        $ 44.95  NOVA COLLECTION 1           $ 47.95 
NOVA COLLECTION 2        $ 37.95  PARADISE CLUB INTER         $ 64.95 
PHONE SEX                $ 19.95  PHYSICAL THERAPY ADULT      $ 29.95 
PRINCESS OF PERSIA       $ 53.95  RIMFIRE PACIFIC             $ 38.95 
SECRETS                  $ 44.95  SEXIEST WOMEN ON CD         $ 37.95 
SINFULLY YOURS           $ 39.95  SOUTHERN BEAUTIES           $ 39.95 
STORM #2 ADULT           $ 24.95  STORM #3 ADULT              $ 24.95 
STORM 2/3 BUNDLE         $ 39.95  SUPER SMUTWARE              $ 28.95 
SURF'S UP!               $ 28.95  SWEET DREAMS                $ 47.95 
TOPLESS DANCER           $ 49.95  TRACI I LOVE YOU            $ 44.95 
TROPICAL GIRLS           $ 28.95  WEEKEND AT ERNIES           $ 38.95 
WICKED W/KODAK PHOTO     $ 59.95  WICKED WISPERS              $ 49.95 
WICKED                   $ 59.95  WOMEN WHO LOVE WOMEN        $ 39.95 
 
$5.00 standard shipping per order.  CMS accepts Visa, Mastercard, 
check, cash COD, or money orders.  Personal checks take 7 days to 
clear the bank.  Money order will ship same day.  Please allow 
1-2 weeks shipping time.  2 day and next day air are also available. 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 10633
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/20/94  1:21a
Subj: CD-ROM Software Bundles                 Refer: NONE
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Look below for some great CD-ROM Software Bundles from CMS. 
All discs are IN STOCK ready for shipment. 
 
               ***** SINGLE CD PRICING ***** 
 
Software Tool Chest - $29.95   Physical Therapy Adult   - $29.95 
ShareWare OnLine #2 - $39.95   Adult Reference Library  - $37.95 
GameWare Collection - $29.95   SoundWare Collection     - $39.95 
Storm-2 Adult       - $22.95   Storm-3 Adult            - $24.95 
User's Choice Windows $29.95   A.P.L. Adult             - $37.95 
Digital Dreams 1    - $24.95   Swimwear                 - $19.95 
Digital Dreams 2    - $28.95   Software Treasure Chest  - $24.95 
 
              ***** BUNDLED CD PRICING ***** 
 
User's Choice Windows          SoundWare Collection 
ShareWare OnLine #2            GameWare Collection 
    $44.95                         $49.95 
 
ShareWare OnLine #2            Storm-3 Adult 
SoundWare Collection           A.P.L. Adult 
GameWare Collection            Adult Reference Library 
User's Choice Windows          Physical Therapy Adult 
Software Treasure Chest        Storm-2 Adult 
Software Tool Chest                $119.95 
    $139.95 
 
                               User's Choice Windows 
Software Treasure Chest        ShareWare OnLine #2 
ShareWare OnLine #2            A.P.L. Adult 
    $39.95                     Storm-2 
                                   $69.95 
 
Storm-2 Adult                  Storm-2 Adult 
Storm-3 Adult                  Storm-3 Adult 
    $39.95                     A.P.L. Adult 
                                   $69.95 
 
Adult Reference Library        A.P.L. Adult 
Storm-2 Adult                  Physical Therapy Adult 
Physical Therapy Adult             $54.95 
    $69.95 
                               ShareWare OnLine #2 
A.P.L./User's Choice           A.P.L. Adult 
    $44.95                         $44.95 
 
CMS accepts Visa & Mastercard, check, M.O., and COD orders. 
$5.00 standard shipping on any order.  These prices are in 
effect for a short time only.  Get your orders sent TODAY! 
CMS does accept your trades!  PUBLISHERS: Call us to trade 
your titles for ours! 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
TELEPHONE: 812-442-0110 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 10634
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/20/94  1:21a
Subj: CD-ROM Software Elimination             Refer: NONE
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                   CMS SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING 
                         P.O. BOX 165 
                     SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
                         812-442-0110 
 
                      Updated 01-19-1994 
 
Its a fact.  CMS is overstocked and to make room for the 
upcomming remodeling and expansion of CMS Software we MUST 
LIQUIDATE the following inventory.  Grab any of the following 
discs for $15 each, unless otherwise noted, while supplies last. 
Buy 7 and select one FREE*.  We will hold nothing back until this 
inventory is GONE.  One of some titles and hundreds of others 
but it ALL must go.  Some discs are used and most are new but 
all are guaranteed against defects.  Dealers call now for bulk 
pricing.  You may grab as many as you like and pay only $3 
shipping**.  You may place your order on Mastercard or Visa or we 
will ship your order COD for $5.00 additional.  You may mail 
your order with a personal check or money order to the address 
at the top of this ad.  * Free CD must be $15 or less.  ** A small 
insurance fee is added to each order. 
 
!!! 650+ MEG Shareware CD only $5.95 with any purchase !!! 
 
Barney Bear Goes to School      Physical Therapy Adult ($25) 
675 MEG Windows CD-ROM          Multi-Media Bookshelf ($30) 
Barney Bear Goes to Space       Fresh Arte Clipart 
Magnum Sight & Sound            Audubon's Birds MM ($20) 
American Business Phone Book    Hamware 1993 ($20) 
Software Vault Gold             Pier 3 Shareware 
FontMaster                      Toolworks MM Enyc. 1.5 ($30) 
LaserTax On CD-ROM              Consumer Guide to CD-ROMs 
Clipart Goliath                 Bibles & Religion 
Up All Night Shareware          PC-SIG Version 11 
Black Box Shareware #4          Black Box Shareware #5 
Colossal Cookbook               Career Opportunities 
2000 Pictures CD-ROM    Random House Unabridged Dictionary ($25) 
ShareWare OnLine II             So Much Shareware #2 
Software Treasure Chest         Crossword Cracker 
GameWare Collection             LookUp 9 Digit ZIP Lookup ($25) 
DataBase Made Easy              Swimwear 1993 
Super CD W/Super BBS            AB20 Amiga Archives 
Storm #2 ($20)                  Storm #3 ($20) 
Mother Earth II                 Fightsmart 
Adult Reference Library ($25)   So Much Modem Madness ($20) 
Digital Dreams #1 ($25)         Time Almanac 
Quick Art Clipart               PC Sig Library #10 
Between Heaven & Hell II        Digital Dreams #2 ($25) 
Ham Radio Shareware             Danger Hot Stuff 
Klotski Polish Puzzles          C/C++ Programmers Library 
CAD Utility Library             Adult Picture Library ($25) 
Paolo Galli Portfolio #1 ($20)  Paolo Galli Portfolio #2 ($20) 
------------------------------------------------------------ 
Grab the following titles for only $10.00 each while supplies 
last.  1 of some and 100's of others but all will surely go 
quickly so get you orders in today. 
 
Phoenix Phun & Games            Brain Drain Games 
Oldies But Goodies Games        Bed & Breakfast Photo Tour 
Mirror Mirror                   Reel Clips 
Futura Games                    Let's Play (Games) 
Variety Store (Games)           Taxprep 
Selectware Software             MPC Wizard 
PC Gameroom                     Middle East Diary 
 
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From: DAVID CARMICHAEL                       Number: 10635
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/20/94  6:11a
Subj: Printer(s) For Sale                     Refer: NONE
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For sale:
(one of the following items, which ever sells first I will keep the other one
form my personal use!)

Panasonic KX-P1124 24 Pin Dot Matrix Printer, with 32K Memory Buffer upgrade.
All Manuals (and I think box & packaging unless storage shed leaked onto it)

Asking: $150.00

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HP DeskJET Ink Jet Printer, with 256K memory cartridge.
All Manuals (and I think box & packaging unless storage shed leaked onto it)

Asking: $250.00
For $50.00 more will add the JetWARE font cartridge.. both cartridges sold new
for $125.00 each!

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Call:
David (316) 524-9727
Wichtia, KS

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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 10636
  To: CHIP SLATE                               Date: 01/20/94  2:40a
Subj: Re: Cd's for trade                      Refer: NONE
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Then it happened...... 

 MG> I have the following for trade:


 
 MG> Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective vol I

    CSWill trade you Stellar 7 for Sher. Holmes..........

      Ok. Give me your address and I'll send it out.

      Mine is:
 
        Mike Gervasi
        US NAS PSC 1002 Box 1174
        FPO AE 09727

   Send it US mail as UPS and such won't deliver to FPO addresses.
  
                   Thanks,
                       Mike

Mike
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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 10637
  To: SCOTT WILLIS                             Date: 01/20/94  3:08a
Subj: for sale/trade                          Refer: NONE
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Then it happened......SW | i have the new sierra game gabriel knight for 
sale or    
   | trade.if you would like to trade leave me a list of what  
   | you have   
   |

     How about King's Quest IV?
                   
                 Mike

Mike
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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 10638
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 01/20/94  3:11a
Subj: Storm I,ii,ii + Ecstasy H               Refer: NONE
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Then it happened......DKÿ@ORIGIN :** Deanna's StarBBS  (209) 239-0883   
24Hrs **              N
DKÿ@SUBJECT:Storm I,II,II + Ecstasy Hot Pic's for Trade                 N
DKHi!
DK I have the Adult Cd's Storm I,Storm II,Storm III and Ecstasy Hot Pic's
DKfor Sale or Trade for Non-adult Cd's.
DK ** Only Adults need reply **


   I have King's Quest IV, National Parks for trade. Interested?

                                   Mike

Mike
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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 10639
  To: SHARI DOMKE                              Date: 01/20/94  8:40p
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
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Shari
    Sorry, I'm no the Sam Figueroa that you apparently know, but I
really find it odd that someone else actually has the same name as mine!
Write me back and we can talk about this is ya don't mind, if the Sam
that you know is able to be reached by echo mail or whatever, I would
like to talk to him sometime!

              Thanks,
                                  Sam Figueroa
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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 10640
  To: JEFF NEWMAN                              Date: 01/19/94  2:56p
Subj: Magazine with disc                      Refer: NONE
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JN> RS>  DVDI> Is there a way to outwardly tell the collector's edition from an
JN> RS>  DVDI> "normal" Busty Babes Volume 1?  My disc is red over
JN> RS> the top third with
JN> RS>  DVDI> "BB" and "Volume #1" in silver within the red.

JN> RS> Yes I think so, If it has the Bam-Bam Ltd on the left it

JN> Rick, will trade you a copy of the seventh guest with the video and
JN> transfer ownership. Will also throw in an unopened copy of December
JN> 1993 Multimedia magazine with its 650 meg of demos, etc.

JN> ... Procrastination: What I plan on if I ever find time

JN>-Jeff NOPCCCC

JN>--- EZPoint V2.2
JN> * Origin: Jeff's EZPoint (1:396/17.17)
 How much will ya take of the magazine with the demo disc in it!
                        Sam Figueroa
Thanks

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 10641
  To: TED KIM                                  Date: 01/19/94  3:03p
Subj: Rebel assault                           Refer: NONE
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TK>I have Rebel Assault for sale or trade.  $37 or if you have any of these
TK>games I will consider trade.  Comanche Overkill(disk or CDrom), Darkside
TK>of Xeen(CDrom).


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 I can get you a copy of Commanche Overkill on disk! Please call me and
 I will work the rest out with ya.
                                Sam Figueroa
                                615-728-7383

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 10642
  To: ROB O'DELL                               Date: 01/20/94  8:42p
Subj: FAO                                     Refer: NONE
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Rob,
    Let me know if you want to swap CD's or maybe a cd and some cash!
                        Thanks,
                             Sam Figueroa
                             615-728-7383
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From: BILL SFERRINO                          Number: 10643
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/20/94 11:51p
Subj: Adult CDROM                             Refer: NONE
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What are the Best XXX CD-roms?  I am looking to get one, but have no
Idea which ones are best.  Could you guys help out?  I have plenty of
'R' rated, so I am now looking for XXX.
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From: JOHN OTTENHOFF                         Number: 10644
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/20/94  6:57a
Subj: modem 4 sale                            Refer: NONE
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I have a Supra 2400 baud modem for sale for $30.  Call 366-3339 and ask
for John or leave E-mail if interested.


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From: NINO FAGAN                             Number: 10645
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/19/94  2:42p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LISTs                      Refer: NONE
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BF> Brice's Library
BF> CD-ROM Price List 14 January 1993

You did better this time Brice.  This week I got sections 1/5 and
5/5.  One of these weeks maybe all 5 sections will come in and
we'll have a chance to see what your offering.

Regards, 
Nino
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From: PETE PASZKOWSKI                        Number: 10646
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/19/94 10:50a
Subj: Adult CD's for sale or trade            Refer: NONE
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I have Storm I and II that I would like to sell or trade for other adult
titles.  Both are packed with XXX gifs and Storm I also has text files, both
have GL's etc...Make me an offer or call the Looney Tunes BBS at 814-825-3304. 
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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 10647
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/19/94  7:46p
Subj: adult cd trade                          Refer: NONE
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All,
I have ANIMATION FANTASIES to trade for another adult cd.  Would like Storm
1,2, or 3, or T&A to the Maxx,  but am willing to consider others.  Let me know
if interested.  Also, will consider non-adult CD.
Greg

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 10648
  To: LYLE HEWITT                              Date: 01/19/94  6:38p
Subj: CANADIAN CD CATALOGUE                   Refer: NONE
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-> I would be interested in receiving the ground-mail floppy version of
-> your catalogue at the following address:

Hi Lyle!

   There's no need to wait... I have Hayden's catalogue on-line on the
BBS here (which is, of course, a local call). Our regular catalogue
prices have always, and continue to, beat his regular prices. We keep it
posted here, along with several others, for comparison purposes.

   Of course, you can always take our prices to him, and get him to beat
them :)

    Vince
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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 10649
  To: ROBBIE HESSLER                           Date: 01/20/94  7:18a
Subj: Adult CD Trade                          Refer: NONE
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RH>    What is the Seedy Rom.  What are the specs for this cd? As well as for t
RH>Adult reference library.

Robbie, both discs are full of .gif files.  Adult Ref Library may have
some short videos on it too.  What do you have to trade?

Randy


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From: DEREK STUTSMAN                         Number: 10650
  To: BILL HENDERSON                           Date: 01/20/94  1:32p
Subj: Strike Commander CD                     Refer: NONE
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BH>I've got one that I'll sell for $50 with the speech pack included. Give
BH>call at 704-393-5211 if you're interested.

Wanna trade for Rebel Assault?  (Full box, dox, new condition.  Expect 
same)


Derek Stutsman
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From: ANDY ROFF                              Number: 10651
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/19/94 10:11p
Subj: night owl                               Refer: NONE
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How would I go about getting a copy of night owl 11 and what assurances
are therre that the virus problem is solved.

Andy


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From: SYSTEM OPERATOR                        Number: 10652
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94 12:25a
Subj: Mostly games, sale or trade             Refer: NONE
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   For Sale... Or Trade
I'm not a gamer, I prefer data type discs.
Programs include the original disks, manuals.

2 copies   Aldus Photo Styler S.E.         CD-ROM   $25.
           Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe CD-ROM   $20.
           The Secret of Monkey Island     CD-ROM   $20.
           LOOM                            CD-ROM   $20.
           Software ToolWorks Multimedia
             Encyclopedia v 1.0            CD-ROM   $30.
           ProPhone 93 v 2.0   7disc set.           $50.

Don Bosman
PO Box 737
East Lansing, MI 48826
(517) 332-7733  work / answering machine line.
Netmail 1:159/240  7pm to 7am ONLY

O


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 10653
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/20/94  9:52p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
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 Hitachi cd rom drives model 3600 (that's right model 3600) $99 each.
 Access time 350 ms.  Transfer rate 150 kb/s.  These EXCELLENT drives
 can be daisy-chained up to  8  on each propitiatory controller card.

 They can use the same controller cards that  are  used  with  the
 model 3500's.  If you don't  already  have  an  interface  card I
 have them NEW for $60.         I also have:
 Caddies                         $  5   each.
 External cases  for 4 drives    $ 20
 External cases  for 8 drives    $ 30
 Cables for 4 or 8 drives        $ 10
 Power supplies. (110/220)       $ 25
 Shipping   aprox.                       $    4      each   drive.

 30 day warranty.        All domestic orders are shipped    c.o.d.

 Total for an 8  drive  setup  assembled  in  case  with  p/s  and
 interface,  cables,  caddies,  ready  to  plug  in  and   play...
 including shipping c.o.d. (A $1,000 value)  ALL  for  only  $970

 4 drive setup as above....  A $560 value   special offer .....$530

 Call voice 205-824-2552  or "crash" netmail your order to 3625/441.
 Sorry...  routed  netmail  won't reach me since I get my  feed  via
 satellite.

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From: SHAUN WATSON                           Number: 10654
  To: HERB ZWIRN                               Date: 01/19/94  1:24p
Subj: test                                    Refer: NONE
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On <16 Jan, 21:31>, Herb Zwirn wrote to All :

HZ>  record.exe test

SW>  reply.com post

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From: KENNETH ROACH                          Number: 10655
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/21/94 12:16a
Subj: Toshiba Drive                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a Toshiba 3201B drive to part with.  Works, but needs alignment.
Sometimes gets "stuck" trying to read different areas of a CD.  Advise if
interested.

Ken

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From: DARREN CASTLEBERRY                     Number: 10656
  To: ROB O'DELL                               Date: 01/20/94  4:01a
Subj: Re: FAO and shareware                   Refer: NONE
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RO> So Much Stareware (Adult)
RO> Giffy Gold (Adult)

Hi!
  I'd like to offer $25.00 for both of the above shipped. If this is
acceptable, leave e-mail here and mail dics to:

Darren Castleberry
4507 Chestergate
Spring, TX 77373

Leave me your address and I'll send payment the same day!



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From: JIM HILGEFORD                          Number: 10657
  To: AL KAISER  1:141/820                     Date: 01/19/94  8:23p
Subj: Cd disk received                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dear Al:

I received the CD you sent to me. Arthur's Teachers Trouble.

Thank you for your quick response.

Jim Hilgeford   Tucson, Az.

... I Don't Do Windows, But OS/2 Does

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From: ERIC LURIE                             Number: 10658
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/20/94  8:47a
Subj: Need to buy cd-rom                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

All,
     i am in need of a cd-rom.  It could be internal, external, but must have
access time of at least 350ms or lower. If you have one to sell, please
respond.
    Eric Lurie


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From: DAVID HILL                             Number: 10659
  To: ROBBIE HESSLER                           Date: 01/20/94  4:11p
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry, both are sold.


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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 10660
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 01/21/94  1:52a
Subj: Bodacious Beauties -New Release         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

David Vangelder uttered the following to Randy Neuner :
 -DV> Randy, I apologize for the delay, but we are just now getting Bodacious
 -DV> Beauties ready for pressing.  We delayed it's production to include
 -DV> additional features to our new GUI interface.

Please call me at 615-356-1967.  I may have some business for you on this
disc.  If you don't want to call, please leave ME a number to call... Thanks.

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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 10661
  To: JOHN LITTLE                              Date: 01/21/94 11:45a
Subj: Re: Bodacious Beauties - New Release    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <01-17-94 05:37> John Little wrote:

JL>  What is the licencing rate for a 2 node BBS for your BB CD-ROMs?


Mr. Little, the cost to license Bodacious Beauties for 2 nodes would be
$25.00 for the first node and $15.00 for the second node, or a total of
$40.00.  This would cover the licensing of Bodacious Beauties for as long
as you wish to keep it on line.

Thanks for your post.  If you decide to purchase Bodacious Beauties, I
hope that you will be pleased with the disc.  
 
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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10662
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/21/94  2:44a
Subj: !discounted Fedex shippin               Refer: NONE
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    It pleases us to announce that due to our growing shipping volume,
FedEXpress has become our preferred courier.  USPS Priority was our
preferred method, however,  recent performance such as week-long delays
and damaged jewel cases made us look elsewhere. We contacted all the
other couriers to see who would offer our customers the best deal.
FedEX won the bid by allowing us to offer their economy service, which
is as close to guaranteed two-day service as anyone will offer, for only
$3.00 additional over USPS priorty rates.  Of course, we will continue
to offer your preferred shipper, as we have accounts with all of the
major couriers. config.sys, Inc./ voice: 216.296.9831 data:216.296.2244

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10663
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/21/94  2:44a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
                        ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3600 CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee

                    ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee

                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
14.4 Power supply..................$10.00 ea.
external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
Shipping (drives)$25.00 for up to 2 drives,$40.00 for 3-4 drives.

                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****

As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
offering all refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit,
to be shipped upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30
days for receipt of your refurbished drive.

                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: MAJIC NAME: "CONFIG" gets all CD-ROM oriented files
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariat.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10664
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/21/94  2:44a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For 1,500+ CD-Titles & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip, descript.zip (or) MAJIC word CONFIG gets both
The Blue Parrot CD-ROM SUPPORT RBBS offers non-backboned echo config
for daily cdlist updates, news, game reviews, & more.
All config.sys cd-rom support files are available to all NEW users!

Fido: 1:157/479 - RBBS: 8:965/13 - Kesher: 18:711/176 - WWIV: 2@2659
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.|Voice: (216) 296.9831 or 296.4446 24hrs
P.O. Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240  |BBS/Fax: 216.296.2244 - 23hrs 16.8k ZYX
Internet: joe@config.wariat.org|>>>>>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<<<

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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 10665
  To: JEFF BLYSTONE                            Date: 01/21/94  9:31a
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jeff - if the deal doesn't work out with the other chap, I am interested in the
civil war cd.  Let me know.  Jerry

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From: SID                                    Number: 10666
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/21/94  2:15a
Subj: Handy Scanner                           Refer: NONE
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HT@>I don't know wether this is the place to offer this item.

HT@>I have for sale a Handy Scanner, DFI,  HS-3000+, including the

I will offer $40+ shipping for this. If you are interested call
(904)-332-5386. Or ship COD cash to: Mark Skelly, 25 SW 91st Street
Gainesville, FL 32607.

Thanks,
Mark Skelly
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From: SAM BECKWITH                           Number: 10667
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/19/94  6:54p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DFW Discount Electronics    CD-ROM Price List  Orders: 800-829-0331
 Ship to USA ONLY.01/19/94  BBS: 214-259-4188  Local : 214-254-0331

*BBS Ready*           
9000 Sounds 9/93...........................................  $22.00
CD PowerBox v2.0 11/93.....................................  $18.00
CD WinBox 9/93.............................................  $18.00
Cream of the Crop II 10/93.................................  $20.00
Ham Radio & Scanner Companion 11/93........................  $18.00
Hobbes OS/2 Archives 10/93.................................  $15.00
Monster Media 93 Volume #2 9/93............................  $23.00
Monster Media 93 Volume #3 1/94 (pre-release orders).......  $25.00
Night Owl 10.1 (Tested Virus Free).........................  $29.00
Night Owl 11 1/94  (pre-release orders)....................  $29.99
Night Owl Games 10/93......................................  $18.00
Night Owl Graghics 8/93....................................  $24.00
Night Owl Windows..........................................  $27.00
OS/2 Box 10/93.............................................  $18.00
OS/2 Companion 11/93.......................................  $18.00
Pier 3 Shareware 9/93......................................  $25.00
Pier 4 Shareware 2/94 (pre-release orders).................  $25.00
Sci-Fi Fantasy 4/93........................................  $21.00
Shareware Explorer 4 CD Combo 8/93.........................  $39.00
Shareware GamePak for DOS 11/93............................  $18.00
Shareware Studio III 9/93..................................  $21.00
Simtel 10/93...............................................  $15.00
Software Vault Gold Collection 9/93........................  $19.00
Software Vault Platinum Collection 1/94....................  $25.00
Sysop's Companion 11/93....................................  $18.00

*Business*            
Britannica Select Software.................................  $19.00
Business Assistant.........................................  $14.00
Business Master 3rd Edition 10/93..........................  $18.00
Marketing Master (DOS-OEM).................................  $15.00

*Children*            
Aesop's Fables (Boxed).....................................  $25.00
Aladdin and his Wonderful Lamp.............................  $34.00
Arthur's Teacher Trouble (Win-OEM).........................  $25.00
Barney Bear Goes to School.................................  $15.00
Barney Bear Goes to Space..................................  $15.00
Beauty & the Beast.........................................  $21.00
Interactive Storytime Volume 1.............................  $18.00
Interactive Storytime Volume 2.............................  $18.00
Interactive Storytime Volume 3.............................  $18.00
Just Grandma and Me (Win-OEM)..............................  $28.00
McMillan Dictionary for Children (OEM).....................  $23.00
Mixed Up Mother Goose......................................  $17.00
Peter and the Wolf (OEM)...................................  $20.00
Sleeping Beauty............................................  $21.00
White Horse Child (OEM)....................................  $21.00

*Cooking*             
Colossal Cookbook..........................................  $15.00
Cookbook Heaven............................................  $15.00
Healing Foods Cookbook.....................................  $32.00
John Schumacher's New Prague Cookbook......................  $25.00
New Basics Electronic Cookbook.............................  $23.00

*Education*           
Education Master 2nd Edition...............................  $17.00
PC-SIG World of Education 12/93............................  $18.00

*Games*               
Adventures of Willy Beamish................................  $16.00
B-17 Flying Fortress & Silent Service (OEM)................  $27.00
Battle Chess Enhanced (OEM)................................  $29.00
CD Game Pack II............................................  $21.00
CD-ROM Challenge Pack......................................  $19.00
Chessmaster 3000 (OEM).....................................  $21.00
Conan the Cimmerian (OEM)..................................  $22.00
Cybergenic Ranger - Secret of the Seventh Planet...........  $14.00
Dagger of Amon Ra - Laura Bow 2 (Win-OEM)..................  $23.00
Deathstar Arcade Battles...................................  $14.00
Dracula Unleashed..........................................  $54.00
Dune (OEM).................................................  $34.00
Ecoquest: The Search for Cetus (Win).......................  $24.00
European Racers (Boxed)....................................  $31.00
Eye of the Beholder III, D&D (OEM).........................  $24.00
F-117A Stealth Fighter 2.0 + F15 Strike Eagle II (OEM).....  $26.00
Gunship 2000 (OEM).........................................  $27.00
Guy Spy and the Crystals of Armageddon (OEM)...............  $21.00
Hugo's House of Horrors....................................  $14.00
Iron Helix (Win)...........................................  $62.00
Jutland (Boxed)............................................  $45.00
King's Quest V (OEM).......................................  $12.00
King's Quest VI (OEM)......................................  $26.00
Labyrinth of Time..........................................  $54.00
Legend of Kyrandia (OEM)...................................  $24.00
Loom.......................................................  $19.00
Lost in Time...............................................  $25.00
Mad Dog Mcree..............................................  $37.00
Maniac Mansion - Day of the Tentacle (Boxed)...............  $43.00
MVP Software's Game Jamboree...............................  $14.00
Return to Zork (OEM).......................................  $25.00
Secret of Monkey Island....................................  $19.00
Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe............................  $19.00
Seventh Guest (2 disc set - OEM)...........................  $35.00
Shareware GamePak for Windows 11/93........................  $18.00
Space Quest IV - Roger Wilco and the Time Rippers (OEM)....  $16.00
Star Wars Chess (OEM)......................................  $20.00
Stellar 7..................................................  $17.00
Tornado (OEM)..............................................  $27.00
Who Killed Sam Rupert? (Win)...............................  $18.00
Wrath of the Demon (OEM)...................................  $17.00

*Gardening*           
Gardening..................................................  $14.00
Pixel Garden...............................................  $26.00
Plant Doctor...............................................  $26.00

*General*             
CD Deluxe Pack #1..........................................  $26.00
CD Deluxe Pack #2..........................................  $26.00

*Graphic/Clipart*     
Clipart Galore - All American Series Volume 2..............  $19.00
Clipart Heaven.............................................  $16.00
Clipart Warehouse 10/93....................................  $14.00
Color Magic Clipart........................................  $19.00
Desktop Publishers Dream Disk..............................  $26.00
Font Funhouse (OEM)........................................  $18.00
Fontmaster II..............................................  $17.00
GIFs Galore 9/93...........................................  $19.00
Jets and Props (OEM).......................................  $18.00
Kodak Photo CD Access Software (Win).......................  $15.00
LaserSoft Banners (Win-Boxed)..............................  $25.00
Mother of All Clipart......................................  $15.00
Publisher's Paradise.......................................  $21.00
Publisher's Powerhouse 9/93................................  $16.00
Too Many Typefonts.........................................  $14.00
WorldView..................................................  $15.00

*Health*              
Family Doctor..............................................  $21.00
Home Remedies (OEM)........................................  $19.00
Mayo Clinic Family Health (Win-OEM)........................  $19.00
Prescription Drugs.........................................  $25.00

*Programming*         
Source CD-ROM..............................................  $18.00
Technotools................................................  $14.00

*Reference*           


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From: SAM BECKWITH                           Number: 10668
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/19/94  6:54p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
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Aircraft Encyclopedia......................................  $29.00
Complete Bookshop..........................................  $14.00
Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia 1994 (Win-OEM)..........  $68.00
Dictionaries and Languages.................................  $14.00
Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia 6.0  1994 (Windows)........  $38.00
Languages of the World.....................................  $21.00
MS Bookshelf 93 for Windows (OEM)..........................  $32.00
ProPhone National Edition 4th Quarter 1993 (7 disc set)....  $77.00
Star Trek Collectibles (Win)...............................  $41.00
USA Wars: Civil War........................................  $25.00
USA Wars: Korea............................................  $25.00
USA Wars: Vietnam..........................................  $25.00
USA Wars: World War II.....................................  $25.00

*Religion*            
Bible Library..............................................  $25.00
Holy Bible CD-ROM..........................................  $17.00

*Science/Nature*      
Beyond the Wall of Stars (Boxed)...........................  $21.00
Dictionary of the Living World (OEM).......................  $22.00
Dinosaur Adventure (OEM)...................................  $25.00
Dinosaur Discovery (Win-OEM)...............................  $24.00
Dinosaurs! The Multimedia Encyclopedia (Win)...............  $19.75
Images of NASA Collection..................................  $23.00
Jurassic and Other Dinosaurs...............................  $14.00
MS Multimedia Dinosaurs (Win-Boxed)........................  $56.00
National Geographics Mammals (OEM).........................  $21.00
New View of Space (Win)....................................  $24.00
Our Solar System...........................................  $14.00
San Diego Zoo Presents...The Animals (DOS).................  $18.00
San Diego Zoo Presents...The Animals (Win).................  $18.00
Small Blue Planet (Win)....................................  $44.00
Space Adventure (OEM)......................................  $24.00

*Shareware*           
PC-SIG #13 1/94............................................  $24.00
PC-SIG World of Windows 8/93...............................  $18.00
Shareware Overload Trio (3 CD set).........................  $21.00
So Much Modem Madness......................................  $24.00
Windows Master.............................................  $16.00
WinPlatinum................................................  $16.00

*Sound/Music*         
Encyclopedia of Sound......................................  $14.00
MIDI Music Shop for Windows................................  $19.00
Mozart - Multimedia Music Book (Win-OEM)...................  $19.00
Sound Sensations...........................................  $14.00

*Travel/Maps*         
Adventures (Win-OEM).......................................  $22.00
Oceans Below (Win-OEM).....................................  $19.00
US Atlas 4.0...............................................  $19.00
World Atlas (Win) with Mario is Missing....................  $20.00
World Atlas 4.0 (Win-OEM)..................................  $21.00

*Utility*             
MPC  Wizard................................................  $14.00
 Call me for a complete price list.  Thanks, Sam

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From: CAROLYN MCCANCE                        Number: 10669
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/21/94 11:16a
Subj: !FREE CD CATALOG!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send a copy of the CD-Rom Catalog to:
Carolyn McCance
P.O. Box 211
Cedar Hill, TX  75104

Many Thanks!  :)


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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 10670
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/21/94  6:36a
Subj: QUICKEN CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Greetings Brice !

In a message to Tom Miller <01/19/94> Brice Fleckenstein wrote:

BF|  Just added it to the list - currently have it at $119, but I'm not sure
BF| competative that is, as I haven't seen any other price on it (yet).

I saw it at Sam's Wholesale for $79.95. :)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10671
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 01/21/94  1:30a
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SS:>RL>San Diego Zoo: The Animals... $25
SS:>RL>Our Solar System... $25

SS:>I am interested in these CD's, could you please tell me a little
SS:>more about them?

CA48 ANIMALS MM SAN DIEGO ZOO - Breakthrough video-with-sound technology
lets you see and hear over 200 exotic mammals, birds, and reptiles
in over 60 minutes of video clips. Also has the most up to date info
on each animal, from experts at the San Diego Zoo. Price: $20.40

CA36 OUR SOLAR SYSTEM - Exciting NASA and observatory photos of
the planets, moons, comets, earth, and celestial phonomena! Has star
locators, planetarium programs, astronomical data, voyage simulators,
plus more! Price: $11.30

Hope this info helps Shane.  Call us if you would like to order!

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.00


 * SLMR 2.1a * I'm leaving my body to science fiction...

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10672
  To: MICHAEL DAUM                             Date: 01/21/94  1:30a
Subj: GAMES                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MD:>Looking for good prices on CD ROM games.

MD:>Maniac Mansion
$44.50

MD:>Indiana Jones:  Fate of Atlantis
$44.00

Call any time if you'd like to order!

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.00


 * SLMR 2.1a * Is it '96 yet???

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10673
  To: CRAIG NYLUND                             Date: 01/21/94  1:30a
Subj: seedy-rom 6 pax                         Refer: NONE
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CN:>Who has the Seedy Rom 6-Pax Collectors Edition 4-sale?  How much is such a
CN:>critter or what would be a good price if I find this elsewhere?  Thanks.

Not sure if he still has them in stock, but you might try Ken Tully at KL
Systems:  203-387-3174.

Good luck,
.\\ike
Starvector Software


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10674
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 01/21/94  1:30a
Subj: Busty Babies 1 4/sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KM:>Busty Babies 1 "the original version"
KM:>75 dollars, price includes 2nd mail shipping!
KM:>no trades..

Hi Ken,

You might want to send that UPS instead of US Mail.  It is a federal
offense to send XXX material through the US Mail system, especially one
as "controversial" in nature as Busty Babes vol 1 rel 1, if you know what
I'm referring to.

Take care,
.\\ike


 * SLMR 2.1a * My computer's down. Can someone send it flowers?

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10675
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 01/21/94  1:30a
Subj: NEW NIGHT OWL                           Refer: NONE
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DR:>Saturday January 15 1994 03:53, Boris Osadciw wrote to All:
DR:> BO>             N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E
DR:> BO> * Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous
Version

DR:>Have you heard of the viruses yet?  ;-)  You will, soon.

Viruses?  On Night Owl 11?  Too bad.  Their track record had been so
uncluttered up 'til now.  8)

.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10676
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/21/94  1:31a
Subj: NEW LOWER CD PRICES! pt 1               Refer: NONE
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 January 1994            DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 1/21
 ********************************* 1 of 3 *********************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>         ORDER BY PHONE WITH YOUR CHECKBOOK!  COMING SOON!          <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities................ 9.80    Mayo Clinic MPC...............21.80
 14,000 Programs (NEW).........14.60    Microsoft Bookshelf 1992 MPC..32.50
 16-Bit Sound Masterpiece......14.30    Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..46.10
 20th Century People...........21.90    Microsoft Cinemania 1993 MPC..52.00
 20th Century Sports...........21.90    Microsoft Cinemania 1994 MPC..59.00
 20th Century Video Almanac....21.90    Microsoft Golf MPC............48.50
 3D Animania (NEW).............14.30    Microsoft Works MPC...........38.50
 7th Guest OEM (In stock!).....39.00    Middle East Diary.............34.00
 7th Guest w/ Video............48.80    MIDI & Wave Workshop (NEW)....15.90
 9-Digit Zip Code Guide........23.50    MIDI Music Shop...............23.70
 9000 Sounds...................23.40    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........18.90
 A.S.P. Shareware..............18.90    Modblaster MOD Files (NEW)....16.10
 Action Traveler (NEW).........29.00    Monarch Notes.................48.00
 Adventures in Heaven (NEW)....15.80    Monster Media 93 vol 2........26.30
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...21.90    Mother Earth 2................27.90
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........34.00    MPC Wizard for Windows vol 2..14.30
 American Business Phonebk 91..15.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....15.80
 American Business Phonebk 93..20.30    Multimedia Magic Collection...14.30
 Aminet Amiga..................14.40    MVP Game Jamboree (NEW).......11.30
 Anecdotes 1...................11.30    National Geographic Mammals...22.70
 Anecdotes 2...................11.30    National Parks................24.90
 Anecdotes 3...................11.30    Nature Graphics (NEW).........25.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......15.70    Newsweek Interactive (NEW)....23.40
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....20.40    Night Owl 6.2.................15.90
 Arizona Images................18.90    Night Owl 7.0.................15.90
 Art History Encyclopedia......17.40    Night Owl 8.0.................15.90
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......26.50    Night Owl 9.0.................23.40
 Audubon's Birds...............15.50    Night Owl 10.1................29.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............20.60    Night Owl 11.0 (NEW)..........29.90
 Battle Chess..................23.40    Night Owl Business............20.40
 Beauty and the Beast..........18.90    Night Owl Games...............23.50
 Best of Microprose............23.40    Night Owl Graphics............26.40
 Beyond the Wall of Stars......20.60    Night Owl Windows (NEW).......18.90
 Bible Library.................26.40    North American Fax Book.......27.90
 Bibles & Religion.............11.30    Oceans Below (NEW)............20.50
 Britannica Family Choice......22.00    Officer's Bookcase............29.50
 Britannica Select Software....22.00    OS/2Box.......................20.00
 Business Assistant............ 9.80    Otherware (Mac/Amiga S/W).....22.00
 Business Master...............18.90    Our Solar System..............12.00
 C User's Group Library........26.70    PC Karaoke w/ Microphone......65.00
 Canadian Shareware............18.90    PC Paramedic (NEW)............18.00
 Career Opportunities..........15.80    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....15.90
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....21.90    PC-SIG 11.1...................10.60
 CD Powerbox ($6 w/ any order).13.20    PC-SIG Windows................15.90
 CD Powerbox 2 (NEW..All 93!)..25.60    PC-SIG World of Utilities.....15.90
 CD Winbox 1.01................16.10    PC-SIG World of Education.....15.90
 CD-ROM of CD-ROMs ($9 w/ ord).19.00    Pentomino.....................23.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............23.40    Peter and the Wolf............18.90
 CIA World Fact Book...........12.80    Phoenix 4.0...................15.90
 Clipart + Graphics Tools......20.40    Phoenix Phun & Games..........14.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........14.30    Phonedisc USA.................69.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.10    Photo CD Demo (NEW)...........14.30
 Clipart Goliath...............12.00    Pier 2........................19.30
 Clipart Heaven................15.90    Pier 3........................24.00
 Clipart Warehouse (NEW).......11.30    Pinacotheca Multimedia........20.40
 Color Magic Clipart (NEW).....23.40    Pixel Garden..................29.50
 Colossal Cookbook.............12.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........26.20
 Communication Master (NEW)....14.30    Plant Doctor..................29.50
 Companion for OS/2 (NEW)......18.90    Playing w/ Language: English..23.40
 Companion for Windows (NEW)...18.90    Playing w/ Language: French...23.40
 Companion for WordPerfect.....18.90    Playing w/ Language: German...23.40

                 - Prices subject to change without notice -
    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.00


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10677
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/21/94  1:31a
Subj: 3 NEW WAYS TO PAY!                      Refer: NONE
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COMING SOON TO STARVECTOR SOFTWARE:  3 BRAND NEW WAYS TO PAY!
-------------------------------------------------------------

For the added convenience of our CD-ROM customers, Starvector will soon be
adding three new payment methods.  In addition to accepting Visa, Discover,
Mastercard, American Express, COD, wire transfer, personal checks, and
money orders, we will offer the following beginning around Feb. 1st. Choose
the one that works best for you................

1.  PhoneCheck - With this new and exciting payment option, you may use
    your personal or business checking account just like a credit card.
    Simply provide us with your name as it appears on your check, the
    checking account number, and the check number you would like to use.
    It's that simple!  We can then process your order over the phone, by
    fax, or through our BBS online order door, and your checking account
    will be debited AUTOMATICALLY 24 hours after the order has shipped.
    This option is especially nice for those who don't have credit cards,
    or who have been ordering by COD.  Save those $5 and $6 COD fees and
    eliminate the hassle of cash/money order COD's!  Plus, the service
    carries NO additional surcharge or fee!  Even if you have a credit
    card, you may want to try this method on occasion to minimize your
    monthly VISA/MASTERCARD interest charges.

2.  Diner's Club - For those who prefer to pay with their Diner's Club
    credit card.

3.  Carte Blanche - For those who prefer to pay with their Carte Blanche
    credit card.

In addition to these new services, Starvector is in the process of
establishing a relationship with Federal Express to begin using 2-Day
Economy service as our default shipping method.  Shipping charges will be
only slightly higher than UPS ground, with a dramatic decrease in delivery
time to 85% of the U.S.  Our growing base of international customers will
also benefit from this new economy service.

We're constantly looking for ways to improve our service, pricing, and
selection.  We look forward to serving you!

Mike Shannon
Starvector Software


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10678
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/21/94  1:31a
Subj: NEW LOWER CD PRICES! pt 2               Refer: NONE
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 January 1994            DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 1/21
 ********************************* 2 of 3 *********************************

 Complete Bookshop.............12.00    Playing w/ Language: Japanese.23.40
 Composer Quest................32.50    Playing w/ Language: Spanish..23.40
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....50.60    Precision Mapping.............68.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....50.60    Prescription Drugs............27.00
 Computer Reference Library....12.00    Profiles of Colleges..........28.50
 Conan the Cimmerian...........23.50    Project Gutenberg.............18.40
 Consumer Information Disc.....29.40    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak 4th Qtr..109.00
 Cookbook Heaven...............15.90    ProPhone 1993 Business........20.40
 CorelDraw 3.0.................68.70    Publique Art (600 dpi)........34.00
 Cream of the Crop 2 (NEW).....25.00    Publish-It 2.0................23.40
 Cybergenic Ranger.............12.80    Publisher's Dream Disc........29.50
 Dagger of Amon Ra.............27.90    Publisher's Paradise..........21.90
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........23.40    Publisher's Paradise Pro......35.10
 Dare, Bluff, or Die (NEW).....27.90    Publisher's Powerhouse (NEW)..23.30
 Day of the Tentacle...........44.50    Puzzlemania (NEW).............14.30
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......12.00    Q&A 4.0.......................35.00
 Desert Storm..................23.50    QRZ Ham Radio.................14.30
 Desktop Bookshop..............14.30    Reel Clips....................25.00
 Destination Mars (NEW)........22.00    Reference Library ............19.60
 Dictionaries & Language.......12.00    Return to Zork................50.00
 Dictionary of Living World....32.50    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...34.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............26.30    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....23.30
 Dinosaurs!....................27.90    Scrabble Deluxe (NEW).........34.00
 Doctor's Book: Home Remedies..24.90    Secret of Monkey Island.......21.90
 Dr. Games.....................18.90    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...21.90
 Dr. Music.....................18.90    Shakespeare...................12.80
 Dr. Shareware.................18.90    Shareware 1993 vol 2..........17.40
 Dr. Windows...................18.90    Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......46.10
 DTPro.........................21.80    Shareware Online 1............18.90
 Dune..........................39.00    Shareware Online 2............24.90
 Ecoquest......................26.50    Shareware Overload............12.00
 Education Master..............18.90    Shareware Overload Trio (NEW).21.90
 Electronic Cookbook...........23.60    Shareware Studio 2............15.90
 Electronic Home Library.......21.90    Shareware Studio 3............17.40
 Electronic Library of Art.....34.00    Sherlock Holmes...............14.30
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......23.30    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...49.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........12.00    Sights & Sounds...............22.50
 European Monarchs.............34.00    Simtel 20.....................14.30
 Family Doctor DOS.............15.10    Sleeping Beauty...............18.90
 Family Doctor MPC.............22.70    So Much Screenware............27.50
 Firearms Reference............19.00    So Much Shareware 2...........15.90
 Font Master 1.................12.90    So Much Shareware 3...........23.50
 Font Master 2.................18.90    So Much Space (NEW)...........18.90
 Food Analyst..................36.50    Software Vault 1..............12.80
 Fractunes.....................30.00    Software Vault 2..............12.80
 Fresh Arte....................34.00    Software Vault Gold...........19.90
 Funny.........................33.00    Solar Heaven (NEW)............15.90
 Game Arena.................... 9.80    Sound Effects Library.........19.00
 Game Master...................18.90    Sound Sensations..............12.00
 Game Pack 3 (NEW).............23.40    Sound Works...................18.80
 Games 1993....................23.40    Soundware Collection..........19.00
 Games Collection (90% 1993!)..20.00    SoundWAV......................19.10
 Games Platinum (NEW)..........18.90    Source CD-ROM.................18.90
 Gameware Collection...........21.80    Space & Astronomy (NEW).......19.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............14.30    Space Adventure...............27.90
 Gardening (NEW)...............12.00    Space Quest IV................19.00
 GIF Galaxy (NEW)..............24.00    Space Shuttle (NEW)...........24.90
 GIF's Galore 9/93.............14.30    Space Time and Art (NEW)......26.30
 Giga Games....................18.90    Star Trek Collectibles........59.00
 Global Explorer...............89.20    Star Wars Chess (NEW).........31.00
 Golden Immortal...............24.70    Stellar 7.....................18.80

                 - Prices subject to change without notice -
    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.00


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10679
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/21/94  1:31a
Subj: ADULT CD-ROM PRICES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 January 1994         SOFTCORE ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST    Last update: 1/21
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>         ORDER BY PHONE WITH YOUR CHECKBOOK!  COMING SOON!          <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
 Amateur Models................25.00    Girls of Mardi Gras (New!)....39.50
 American Girls (New!).........31.40    High Volume Nudes.............31.40
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......29.00    L.A. Strippers (Movie)........39.50
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......48.00    Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......29.80
 Digital Dreams 1..............23.30    Photo Gallery.................34.60
 Digital Dreams 2 (New!).......25.30    Southern Beauties.............26.60
 Digital Dreams 2-Pak..........45.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....25.00
 Giffy Gold....................29.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....21.70

                 - Prices subject to change without notice -
    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 ORDERS...............509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 FAX/INFO/ORDERS......509-457-2966..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * If at first you don't succeed, call it Night Owl 10.0

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10680
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/21/94  1:31a
Subj: NEW LOWER CD PRICES! pt 3               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 January 1994            DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 1/21
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 Grammy Awards.................34.00    Straight from Heaven (NEW)....15.90
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........24.00    Street Atlas USA v2...........93.70
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........24.00    STW Illustrated Encyclopedia..34.00
 Great Wonders of the World....31.00    STW Multimedia Encyclopedia...44.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency 6.0 (NEW)..43.10    STW MPC Encyclopedia..........44.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...15.90    Super Games for DOS...........10.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 93...24.90    Super Games for Windows 1.....10.00
 Guy Spy.......................23.50    Super Games for Windows 2.....10.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............29.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........33.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................12.00    Tech Arsenal..................20.50
 Ham Radio/Scanner Companion...18.90    Technotools...................11.30
 Hamware 1993..................18.90    Tempra Access Photo Software..12.90
 Health & Medical Directory....19.20    Terrorist Group Profiles......29.50
 Hobbes OS/2 10/93.............14.30    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...21.90
 Hollywood the Bizarre (NEW)...39.50    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...23.50
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..19.00    Timetable of Business/Politic.23.50
 Home Designer (NEW)...........29.00    Timetable of History/Science..21.90
 Home/Office Legal Guide.......12.00    Too Many Typefonts............12.00
 Horror & Sci-Fi Films (NEW)...39.50    Total Baseball 1992...........20.30
 Hot Women Hot Cars (NEW)......14.30    Total Baseball 1993...........24.90
 House of Games................14.30    Total Heart by Mayo Clinic....49.00
 Hugo's House of Horrors (NEW).11.30    Trump Castle..................23.00
 Images of NASA (NEW)..........21.90    U.S./World Atlas MPC..........19.00
 Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................18.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......20.50    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........23.40
 Interactive Story Time 2......20.50    U.S. History..................18.10
 Interactive Story Time 3......29.00    U.S. Presidents...............29.50
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.18.90    U.S. Wars: Civil War..........31.00
 Int'l Graphics Library........27.50    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......31.00
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....29.00    U.S. Wars: Korea..............31.00
 Jets & Props..................21.10    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............31.00
 Jewel Cases...................  .95    U.S. Wars: WWII...............31.00
 Jokes & Pranks................ 9.80    USA Today: The 90's (NEW).....26.60
 Jones in the Fast Lane........16.20    VGA Spectrum 1................ 8.30
 Just Grandma & Me.............32.50    VGA Spectrum 2................15.90
 KGB World Fact Book...........27.90    Video Movie Guide (NEW).......28.50
 King's Quest V................19.60    Virtual 3D (w/ glasses!)......22.00
 King's Quest VI (Retail Box)..34.00    Virtual Reality Starter Kit...49.00
 Klotski.......................13.60    Wave Pool (NEW)...............14.30
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........13.20    Who Killed Sam Rupert.........21.90
 La Coleccion (Spanish S/W)....19.50    Wild Places...................19.20
 Lan Master....................25.00    Wildcat Gold..................15.80
 Language Discovery (NEW)......19.00    Win Platinum..................17.40
 Languages of the World........37.00    Window Master.................18.90
 Learning Adventure............ 9.80    Windoware.....................12.00
 Learning Heaven...............15.90    Windows 1993..................23.30
 Library of the Future #1......39.00    Windows Collection (NEW)......20.00
 Libris Britannia..............32.50    Wing Commander 2 Deluxe.......39.30
 Linux.........................27.00    Wing Commander 2/Ultima U.W...41.50
 Loom..........................19.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.80
 Mac Multimedia Space..........27.90    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......23.50
 Mac Shareware.................18.70    World Atlas MPC ..............18.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........29.00    World Fact Book M/M...........17.20
 Macromind Action..............32.00    World of Flight...............27.90
 Mad Dog McCree................39.00    World of Trains...............27.90
 Mailer's Lookup (NEW).........24.30    World Traveler................12.00
 Majestic Places...............33.60    World View....................19.10
 Mantis........................15.90    World Vision 3-Pak............39.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..23.50    Wrath of the Demon............20.80
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...21.90    X11R5/GNU.....................23.40

                 - Prices subject to change without notice -
    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 ORDERS...............509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 FAX/INFO/ORDERS......509-457-2966..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


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From: JAMES POLLOCK                          Number: 10681
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 01/20/94  2:04p
Subj: Re: Storm I,ii,ii + Ecsta               Refer: NONE
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 -=> Quoting Diana Kirksey to All <=-

 DK> I have the Adult Cd's Storm I,Storm II,Storm III and Ecstasy Hot
 DK> Pic's for Sale or Trade for Non-adult Cd's.

I'm interested in Storm III.  What other CD's were you looking for?
I've got SDN + from Profit Press, CICA Windows from Walnut Creek (Nov 92),
Super Games for Windows from Groupware, Jones in the fast lane from
Sierra, and Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia ver 1.0 (The one
given out in SoundBlaster boxes recently.)

Could get a Software Vault I fairly easily if you wanted that.


... Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 10682
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 01/20/94  2:11p
Subj: Return to Zork sale/trade               Refer: NONE
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RD>How about trading for Day of the Tentacle on CD?
        Thanks. I've seen articles about it and it sounds pretty nifty.
        But the Zork CD is already gone. Sorry.

- Heather
---
 * DeLuxe* 1.12 #2986 * In a cat's eye, all things belong to the cat
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From: SHAWN HARDENBROOK                      Number: 10683
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 01/18/94  8:34p
Subj: Re: MITSUMI INTERNAL  CD                Refer: NONE
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 -=> Quoting Ronald Leon who babbled to Wesley Chew <=-
 
 WC> >
 WC> > $150 plus shipping, COD is $5.
 WC>
 WC>The Double speed Mitsumi is currently being sold for 197 bucks at
 WC>Best Buy with 16bit controller!

 RL> Are you playing price police are trying to make a point of some sort?

Actually, Best Buy sells the Mitsumi 2x speed for $180 in Dallas.  I think 
the point is that you're asking too much for used, old technology.

... Taglines are irrelevant. You will be assimilated into the Blue Wave.
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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 10684
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 01/20/94  5:02a
Subj: Flame? anybody seen it??                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hello Lee!

Tuesday January 18 1994 14:40, Lee Noga wrote to Wayne Dejulia:

 LN> Hey.....the disc is 1,001 images and a bonus was added to include the
 LN> shareware. The disc film was made generic to look like a shareware disc so
 LN> that it could make it to the overseas markets that would confiscate it.

So, you're admitting that you are attempting to circumvent the laws of overseas
countries?  That was "Busty Babes," right?

Later,

Dave

... Al Gore:  A Vulcan in desperate need of a blowjob.

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From: JOSE VISBAL                            Number: 10685
  To: ANDY BRICK                               Date: 01/20/94  7:47p
Subj: Re: Trade?                              Refer: NONE
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 -=> Quoting Andy Brick to All <=-

 AB> I have the CD Day of the Tentacle. I'm looking to trade it for a copy
 AB> of Rebel Assault. Anybody interested, please leave a message in the
 AB> echo. Thanks. 


Hi can you let me know if you want to sell it ...
I am interested ...

... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: RHEZA JINA                             Number: 10686
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/17/94  1:24a
Subj: Classification                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I often see some Adult CDs that are "R-Rated" or "X", or "XX", etc...
I don't understand this, so please, can someone explain me their meanings.
I suppose that "R" means soft, and that X or XX means that there is some
hardcore on it, but I'd like to be sure. Thanks.

Best regards,
Rheza

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From: CARL MONTANTE                          Number: 10687
  To: BILL SFERRINO                            Date: 01/21/94 10:11p
Subj: Adult CDROM                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                                       [ Quoted from Bill Sferrino ]    
 What are the Best XXX CD-roms?  I am looking to get one, but have no   
 Idea which ones are best.  Could you guys help out?  I have plenty     
 of 'R' rated, so I am now looking for XXX.                             
                                                       [ End Quote ]    

Bill,  I am using Ecstasy Hot Pic's here and it is very, very popular
with my users. It contains Gifs, Movies, Text, Art, Utilities and
Viewers. Check into it when you get a chance.


 
                               Carl
 
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From: MIKE STEFFEN                           Number: 10688
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/21/94  6:27a
Subj: CD game for trade                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I've got Mantis/Civilization with all original docs and would like to trade for
Animals; San Diego Zoo, or Animals Encyclopedia or even Toolworks encyclopedia
or anything along these lines.  Make me an offer.
Mike Steffen  1-319-234-0938  CST dayz

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 10689
  To: ANDY ROFF                                Date: 01/21/94  7:33p
Subj: night owl                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 AR> How would I go about getting a copy of night owl 11 
 AR> and what assurances
 AR> are therre that the virus problem is solved.
 
We are selling it for $28.95 plus shipping.  Give us a call at 800-547-7817 to
order.  We should be shipping late next week.  They claim it is scanned this
time with 2 different virus scanners, so hopefully it will be ok.  There is no
guarantee on any of the shareware CDs I don't believe,except Pier offers a
money back guarantee.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 10690
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/21/94  7:35p
Subj: Pre-Order Nightowl 11                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        *****   PRE-ORDER NIGHTOWL 11  *****
 
  PCJ Computing is now accepting orders for the new
  Nightowl 11 CDROM disc.  4,378 Files - 650 Meg.
 
               OUR  PRICE  -  $28.95
 
  We should be shipping during the week of 1/24/94.
      Orders - 615-339-0235  FAX 615-479-1047
   We also have most of the latest shareware CDs.

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From: LARRY FOX                              Number: 10691
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/21/94  8:23a
Subj: Looking for CD-ROM...                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone have a copy of "Volcano" or "Private Pictures" available??  I
need these at a reasonable price ($25-$35 each).

If so, you can either reach me on this echo or at The Cavalier BBS, Fido
1:232/29.

Thanks!

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From: MICHAEL CHOWNING                       Number: 10692
  To: JASON KLANK                              Date: 01/21/94  9:59p
Subj: PIONEER 600A                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I tried to reply to your netmail about the Pioneer 600A.  I am definitely
interested.  Your bbs phone number is obviously incorrect in the fidonet
nodelisting.  The new operator number does not answer.  I have a netmail
message on hold for you on my bbs, the Peace connection bbs (1:2260/180), if
you wish to call with your mailer.  Or you mail call me collect, and ask for
Fr. Michael Chowning, at (606) 436-2533 and we can discuss the drive, etc.
                               Mike

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From: RICHARD LEIGHTON                       Number: 10693
  To: WILLIAM WISE                             Date: 01/20/94  7:45a
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 -=> Quoting William Wise to Richard Leighton <=-

 WW> Joes send a catalog to me.
 WW> William Wise
 WW> 1261 34th. st. nw
 WW> Winter Haven, fl. 33881

 Hi William, You sent your message to the wrong person, I have no catalog
 and i'm not a dealer, try posting again.
                                                Richard



... Re-Boot. No way I'm not restringing all those laces.
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From: HERBERT SMITH                          Number: 10694
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/21/94  6:17a
Subj: Wanted:  SBPro with CDROM INT           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for a SBPro with the standard Creative interface.  719-481-2483.  If
echo, state age, price, and any CD incentives that come with it.  New cards are
$115 or so, so make your price realistic.  Thanks.

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From: BLAKE BARR                             Number: 10695
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/21/94 10:09p
Subj: WE SURVIVED THE QUAKE!                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 


 þ When Mike Shannon Was Hollerin' At All, He Said And I Quote þ

MS±>Well folks, my wife and I just returned from the Los Angeles
MS±>area.  We were
MS±>there during the big quake, and are VERY happy to be back in
MS±>Yakima, where
MS±>the ground is a little firmer.  While we feel blessed that
MS±>we escaped
MS±>without a scratch, there are many thousands in the north Los
MS±>Angeles area
MS±>who weren't as fortunate as we were, and our prayers go out
MS±>to them.

Glad to here it, Mike.

MS±>Once again, thanks one and all, and may God bless you.

Same to you. Once again, glad everything is fine fer ya. :) Take care.

                                    Blake

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 10696
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/22/94  3:12a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E

* Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous Versions
* All Zipped Files      * New Viewer     * 60% Files Released last 90 days
"Night Owl 11. "  offer's over 5,000 all new files and supports for areas
such as Windows, OS/2, Games, Fonts, Ham Radio, Lan, Business and more !
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
   Best Of The Best - Night Owl 11. + Cream Of The Crop II - $50.00

ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Be Young! Have Fun! Use Silver Xpress!
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From: GARY FISHER                            Number: 10697
  To: PAUL LAUGHLIN                            Date: 01/22/94  7:32a
Subj: Mitsumi Cd-Rom Drive For Sale.          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PL> I have a 2 week old Mitsumi 300ms cd-rom Drive for sale...
 PL> I am asking $160.  This comes with Controller card and all 
 PL> books/software...

Paul, I will take this drive from you at asking price. Send to.

Gary Fisher
% Richland Dodge Inc.
906 Gee Street
Jonesboro, AR  72401
(501) 932-2246   between 7:30am and 5:00pm weekdays

Have to have a Guarantee against DOA

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From: RICHARD BUNTON                         Number: 10698
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/21/94  6:40p
Subj: OEM                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*******  Original Msg. From: Brice Fleckenstein  To: Chip Slate  *******
       
CS*  Can someone please tell me what the !@#$% *OEM* means!!!>..
>>*****************************************************************************

It means..."(O)riginal (E)quipment (M)anufacturer"...

Which means ANYBODY that wants to buy parts from various vendors, and
manufacturers, and then assemble or vend, (sell), "ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT". 

Hope this helps.


 ***************
 *   Richard   *
 ***************

 * DeLuxe2/386 1.25 #3885 * ******************** OH NO, a worm in my
Hard-drive!
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From: CRAIG NYLUND                           Number: 10699
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/22/94  9:44a
Subj: Re: seedy-rom 6 pax                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

> Not sure if he still has them in stock, but you might try Ken Tully at KL
> Systems:  203-387-3174.
 
> Good luck,
> .\\ike
> Starvector Software
 
Thanks for the tip. 

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From: FLIP MINTON                            Number: 10700
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/20/94  2:09p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!************* 
JR>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog... 
JR>If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us. 
JR>CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)44k 
JR>DESCRIPT FREQ: descript.zip   (about 800 cd-rom disc descriptions)70k 
JR>       Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org 
JR>   FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176 
JR>Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours 
JR>P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244 
JR>Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<< 
 
JR>--- MsgToss 2.0c 
JR>* Origin: "If you can't find it, call config.sys!" 216-296-2244 (1:157/479) 
 
Please add my name to your list 
Flip Minton 
904 E Poplar 
West Frankfort, Il. 62896 
Thanx 
 
   SLMR 2.1a   Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic 
   SFMail Qwk v3.3 
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 10701
  To: ROBERT HARRIS                            Date: 01/21/94  2:26a
Subj: cd-s                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RH>  SCI-Fi collections  (gifs, music, sounds, games,much more)

What would you take for this?
 
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 10702
  To: ANDY BRICK                               Date: 01/21/94  2:26a
Subj: Trade?                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AB> I have the CD Day of the Tentacle. I'm looking to trade it for a
AB> copy of Rebel Assault. Anybody interested, please leave a message in

If you don't get any takers, I'll give you $35 for it.
 
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 10703
  To: LARRY ADAMSON                            Date: 01/21/94  2:26a
Subj: Re: Phonebook Cd                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LA> Chris, if you get no other offers , I'll give you $50 for the
LA> phonebook set. Call (303)426-9062 or Net 1:104/427 if interested.

If I can't get $75 shipped for it I'm going to keep it.
 
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 10704
  To: SCOTT WILLIS                             Date: 01/21/94  2:26a
Subj: for sale/trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SW> if you are still interested in gabriel knight cd,i will trade it for
SW> rebel assault.let me know what you want to do
 
I still want to trade, send me your address and we'll cross ship. 
I've done a lot of business through the message bases so I assure you 
that you can trust me.  BTW, how did you get the  gk cd so fast, and 
why do you want to get rid of it.

My address is:

Chris Snyder
RR 4 Box 306
West Frankfort, IL 62896
(618)932-2766                  As soon as I get your address I will ship
rebel assault the next day.  I will be shipping box and docs and
I expect to receive the same, unless you get back to me and we discuss
otherwise.
 
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 10705
  To: T. CURTIS                                Date: 01/21/94  2:26a
Subj: For Sale or Trade: Man Enough           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS> I'll trade you rebel assault for it, or offer $35 shipped.
TC>  Fiddle! I just bought RA.. Oh, well.. It's a big box, would you
TC> mind $40 instead? It'll cost me a bit more to ship.. Thanks!
TC> T.

Sorry, after reading the reviews of the game in the gaming rags I
wouldn't give you $15 for it.  I hope someone else will.
 
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 10706
  To: BRIAN KELLER                             Date: 01/21/94 11:02a
Subj: Rebel Assault Passcodes                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BK> what does<g> mean!

grin
 
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From: CHRIS COCOZZO                          Number: 10707
  To: JOHN LUNDY                               Date: 01/19/94  7:39a
Subj: Re: 386dx40                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting JOHN LUNDY to CHRIS COCOZZO <=-

Thanks John.  I appreciate it.

CC
... File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N)
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From: SHAWN DILL                             Number: 10708
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/20/94  2:00a
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Hello All 

   I am going to buy a CD-ROM buy my problem is this a single speed is slower
than double right right.  But the single is less expensive but I talked to a
guy who owns a computer store here and he says that single speed will become
obsolite in the very near furture.  So if anyone has any suggestions were I
could find a cheep Double speed CD-ROM buy a good make like Sony or Panisonic
like I am talking real cheep mabey even used could you let me know.
     SHAWN DILL


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From: WESLEY SCHARFF                         Number: 10709
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/21/94 11:09a
Subj: cd-rom to trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

well, i finished Indy Jones-Fate of Atlantis CD (full talkie version)
and would like to trade it.  It is complete in box with hint-book
included. Any offers?


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From: NATHAN MOSCHKIN                        Number: 10710
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/20/94 10:28a
Subj: Test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What e'er cometh thine way

 * MKRead v1.03 * Most people tend to make sense.  I'm not one of them.

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From: JIM RAMIREZ                            Number: 10711
  To: ROB O'DELL                               Date: 01/22/94  2:07p
Subj: Nec cdr-36 drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Rob,

if you still have any of these left I would be interested...

BTW... the 36's are double speed drives ???

ttfn...
...>>>   jim   <<<...

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From: JIM RAMIREZ                            Number: 10712
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 01/22/94  2:13p
Subj: Nec 36 drives untested                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in two (2) of them at that price...!!!

please reply if are still available and how to arrange for me to get
same..

ttfn...

...>>>   jim   <<<...

you can voice me at (909)941-7373

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From: DEREK STUTSMAN                         Number: 10713
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/22/94 12:38p
Subj: STRIKE COMMANDER CD                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF> How about $69, shipping included IF prepaid?

BF> Save $.95 AND tax that way....


I want it too!  I will trade you my (like-new, in box etc) copies of Rebel 
Assault or 7th Guest for it.  


Derek Stutsman
 * Wave Rider 1.05 Beta # 153 *
... Why aren't there ever any GUILTY bystanders?
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From: BRIAN KELLER                           Number: 10714
  To: ALL!                                     Date: 01/20/94 12:53p
Subj: GAMES FOR SALE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Kings Quest 6 $20.00 
Wing commander 2 with operations 1,2 and speach pack
both on CD-ROM and have all documentation.

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From: RAJAT SETHI                            Number: 10715
  To: JEFF WEISS                               Date: 01/20/94 10:15a
Subj: Re: *^ CD-ROM Writers                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-How much are blank CDs?

-How much $$ for data conversion services?
 \And how is it done?

-Rajat Sethi

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From: RAJAT SETHI                            Number: 10716
  To: JEFF WEISS                               Date: 01/20/94 10:16a
Subj: Re: 3DO?                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have not heard of plans to run 3DO games on PC.

This is limited to Cd-ROM games?  

Thanks..

-Rajat Sethi

(what's the # for Gateway to Hell?)

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From: RAJAT SETHI                            Number: 10717
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/20/94 10:19a
Subj: Re: GERMAN LANGUAGE PROGRAM             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Where can one get the 7 CD German Program?
-Rajat Sethi

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From: JOSEPH ESTEFAN                         Number: 10718
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/20/94  8:14p
Subj: Adult Cd's for Sale?                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone have any adult cd's that are bbs ready that would see them. I will
pay good $$$ for them. Thanks in advance..


                  SnOoP DoGg

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From: TIM SHEEHAN                            Number: 10719
  To: BRIAN KELLER                             Date: 01/18/94 11:45a
Subj: Re: WING COMMANDER @                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested in that... I would rather trade though... here's what I have 
that I'll trade: Where in World is Carmen Sandiego CD Deluxe (it's my sister's
ok?), TONS of sierra games, Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective CD, some 
shareware, and a few more things and some non-cdrom stuff. Let me know if 
interested.
-Tim

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From: EXETER                                 Number: 10720
  To: BRIAN KELLER                             Date: 01/18/94  3:28p
Subj: Re: Rebel Assault Passcodes             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

<g> means grin, or 

I'm smiling

This is funny

etc..

Can you post the rebel assault passcodes again.

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From: TIM SHEEHAN                            Number: 10721
  To: EXETER                                   Date: 01/19/94  3:28p
Subj: Re: Rebel Assault Passcodes             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

D/L REBFAQ.TXT from area f7 on Treasure Island. Has all the codes and the 
cheat code! :-)
-Tim

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From: EXETER                                 Number: 10722
  To: TIM SHEEHAN                              Date: 01/20/94  4:48p
Subj: Re: Rebel Assault Passcodes             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the info on the passcodes.  I D/L'ed them from Treasure Island.

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From: STEVE KENNEDY                          Number: 10723
  To: JAMES CLEVENGER                          Date: 01/22/94 12:52a
Subj: Re: 3DO?                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting James Clevenger to Steve Kennedy dated 01-19-94 ***
> RE: Software Bach.
>  
> If that disc is a good title, it will be ported over to other CD-ROM 
> based game platforms, so you have some other options that will cost you
> less money but give you the same results (you didn't already buy that 
> Bach disc did you?)
>  
I hope its a good title.  For once, I bought (yup, ordered anyway) on the
basis of circumstantial evidence, rather than waiting for reviews, etc.  Sid
Meier of Microprose is the author (previous "Game of the Year" awards from
Computer Gaming World, etc.) together with a man with a PhD in music
theory/composition.  Plus Bach is my alltime favorite composer.  You may get
an "I told you so", we'll see <g>.  I plan to look at the documentation before
I buy a machine (AND see how "Super Wing Commander" looks...scheduled 3DO date
is end of Jan.)

> If you are interested in music composition, I would highly advise that 
> you begin to familiarize yourself with MIDI and the overwhelming 
> opportunities it represents to a computer owner.  You can get a MIDI 
> interface for any computer - a few even have them built in.
>  
No problem there - you oughta see my room, half a dozen MIDI boxes, mixer,
speakers, recorder, etc.  Most of my hard disk is full of MIDI software -
sequencing, scoring, algorithmic composition, etc., etc.  I'm also the
coordianator of the MIDI special interest group in our Houston PC users
organization.  Head first into the "MIDI sinkhole" <g>...

> they will make it.  I still think you should wait for the Sanyo 3D0 - 
> it is supposed to be a less costly unit than the Panasonic.
>  
Probably good advice...as I said, I've ordered software with no way to run it
yet <g>...heard any date on the Sanyo 3DO?

Computer Gaming World Jan 94 also had a survey of the other machines...it does
seem the 3DO has a few things going for it, like software being developed by
big league PC game companies (Microprose, Origin) as opposed to the Atari
Jaguar which reportedly is going more the conventional video game developer
route.  But CGW agress with you, things are changing rapidly, who knows.

I would appreciate any news, thanks.


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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 10724
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/22/94 11:00a
Subj: Compton's Int Ency                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have compton's Interactive Encyclopedia for sale on CD.

This is version 1.01VW for thos interested in version numbers...

I have not opened the wrapping of it yet, but am very tempted to at
least try it out....  I will part with this for say $40 if you pre-pay.
If not, you pick up all P&H and COD charges in excess of $40.....


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: RICK AURAS                             Number: 10725
  To: JERRY ZELLER                             Date: 01/18/94  8:11p
Subj: CD ROM FOR TRADE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Jerry Zeller to Rick Auras <=-

 JZ> Rick - 1992 is fine.  How about a trade for Compton's Family CD? 
 JZ> Jerry 

 Jerry, thanks for the offer but I already have this one.  Anything else
 available??  Rick


... Rick Auras, P.O. Box 458821, San Antonio, TX 78280
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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 10726
  To: ANDY ROFF                                Date: 01/22/94 10:17a
Subj: night owl                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Andy!

Wednesday January 19 1994 22:11, Andy Roff wrote to All:

 AR> How would I go about getting a copy of night owl 11 and what assurances
 AR> are therre that the virus problem is solved.

Think!  Look back at EVERY SINGLE RELEASE of Night Owl products.  Every one of
them has had either a) commercial programs, and/or b) viruses.  It's too bad
that the mojority of shareware CD-ROM customers get hooked on a name, when
better alternatives (safer, too) exist.  I have NO financial stake in ANY of
these shareware discs or companies, and I personally prefer the publishers of
such products as CD PowerBox and Pier.  Other good discs, such as Terry
Blount's Cream of the Crop, are good too.  There's many good discs on the
market; just that Night Owl's isn't one of them.

Later,

Dave

... Al Gore:  A Vulcan in desperate need of a blowjob.

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From: TOM HUNT                               Number: 10727
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/22/94 11:50a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Joe,
How about sending a catalog my way:   Tom Hunt (Sysop-Skull's Cove)
                                      1114 Oxford Ridge Dr.
                                      Wake Forest, NC 27587
thanks


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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 10728
  To: BRIAN KELLER                             Date: 01/22/94  8:05p
Subj: Rebel Assault Passcodes                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BK> what does<g> mean!

grin
 
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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 10729
  To: AMY MOODY                                Date: 01/22/94  7:26a
Subj: On their way....                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Amy - received them last night.  Thanks.  Jerry


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From: KEVIN RICH                             Number: 10730
  To: STEVE PROCTOR                            Date: 01/22/94  9:37p
Subj: Medical CD's                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mr Moderater please excuse this...

ÃÄÅÄ>I am interesed in Medical CD's.  I am going for my EMT and
ÃÄÅÄ>was hoping to find a few CD's out there that are related to

I don't have a CD but I do have a shareware program that will teach all the
different arythmias and some other things.. A friend of mine wrote it, and The
nursing school is using it.

615-837-0014...

thank you Mr/Ms Moderater...

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From: KEVIN MARKOWITZ                        Number: 10731
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/17/94  5:55a
Subj: CD-ROM Magazine                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi All,

Does anyone know of a CD-ROM magazine that is available, called
"Nautilus" <sp?>.  It comes out monthly, and is like any normal magazine
you would buy at CNA, only it's on CD-ROM.

If anyone has any info please NetMail with the info.

                                Thanks...
                                ]<evin.

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From: CRAIG HIND                             Number: 10732
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/20/94  9:35p
Subj: New Night Owl                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>             N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E

BO> * Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous Versions
  > * All Zipped Files      * New Viewer     * 60% Files Released last 90 days

Sorry to have to bring this up, but what about viri?  Are there any in this
version???

Craig


 -- OGGoRD * RsaNET: Who wants the gold?  It's the RAINBOW I am after!!

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From: SEAN CREIGH                            Number: 10733
  To: GREG SCHAFFER                            Date: 01/22/94  2:39p
Subj: Adult CD-ROM's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 GS> Do you still have Giffy Gold CD for sale?
 GS>        Greg
Yes I do! (this line is supposed to be said like that guy on the Bud Light
commercials) :) 
Yeah I still got it, do you want to buy it?
                                      Sean

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From: SEAN CREIGH                            Number: 10734
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/22/94  3:08p
Subj: Giffy Gold                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 To all the people who asked about Giffy Gold file content. Here it is.
It has 7 directories named GIFFYINF, GIF_1, GIF_2, GIF_3, GIF_4, GIF_5, and
GIF_6. It has BBS files text in each of the directories. The GIFFYINF directory
has all kinds of .gif viewers and stuff like that. The GIF_1 has 66 files that
are not adult. 
GIF_2: 236 files
GIF_3: 96 files
GIF_4: 103 files
GIF_5: 305 files
GIF_6: 155 files
 And I was wrong about the non-hard core stuff sort of. I went and looked at it
again and saw some pictures of girls using bottles and dildos both vaginal and
anal. So, I guess there is some harder stuff on there.
  
                                                      Sean

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From: JORDAN DEVRIJ                          Number: 10735
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/21/94  2:55p
Subj: t7g                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


Hello i am selling my 2 disk version of the seventh geust. I will sell it for
45 $$ or best offer there are no scratches or anything wrong with ith it. It
comes in a box with a couple of mannuals. if interested call 905-430-0088 ask
for Jordan.

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From: IAN SINGER                             Number: 10736
  To: ANDY ROFF                                Date: 01/21/94  7:18p
Subj: night owl                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> How would I go about getting a copy of night owl 11 and what
-> assurances are therre that the virus problem is solved.

It has not been released yet but will be at the end of this week. Of you
want 11 I can ship it to you on visa for US$ 35 of $CDN 44.

v10 was the one with the two viruses.  If you want it I can ship it for
same price but they are NOT the ones that were recut as 10.1 so I also
advise you the names and locations of the two infected files.

My number is 416-252-1132 voice/fax 416-252-1133 bbs
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From: JOHN LITTLE                            Number: 10737
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 01/21/94 10:34a
Subj: Bodacious Beauties-New Release          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

So, for $35, I can run your CD on my 2 node system?  

Thanks,
           John 
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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10738
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/22/94 11:43a
Subj: !discounted Fedex shippin               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    It pleases us to announce that due to our growing shipping volume,
FedEXpress has become our preferred courier.  USPS Priority was our
preferred method, however,  recent performance such as week-long delays
and damaged jewel cases made us look elsewhere. We contacted all the
other couriers to see who would offer our customers the best deal.
FedEX won the bid by allowing us to offer their economy service, which
is as close to guaranteed two-day service as anyone will offer, for only
$3.00 additional over USPS priorty rates.  Of course, we will continue
to offer your preferred shipper, as we have accounts with all of the
major couriers. config.sys, Inc./ voice: 216.296.9831 data:216.296.2244

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10739
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/22/94 11:43a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
                        ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3600 CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee

                    ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee

                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
14.4 Power supply..................$10.00 ea.
external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
Shipping (drives)$25.00 for up to 2 drives,$40.00 for 3-4 drives.

                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****

As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
offering all refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit,
to be shipped upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30
days for receipt of your refurbished drive.

                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: MAJIC NAME: "CONFIG" gets all CD-ROM oriented files
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariat.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10740
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/22/94 11:44a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For 1,500+ CD-Titles & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip, descript.zip (or) MAJIC word CONFIG gets both
The Blue Parrot CD-ROM SUPPORT RBBS offers non-backboned echo config
for daily cdlist updates, news, game reviews, & more.
All config.sys cd-rom support files are available to all NEW users!

Fido: 1:157/479 - RBBS: 8:965/13 - Kesher: 18:711/176 - WWIV: 2@2659
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.|Voice: (216) 296.9831 or 296.4446 24hrs
P.O. Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240  |BBS/Fax: 216.296.2244 - 23hrs 16.8k ZYX
Internet: joe@config.wariat.org|>>>>>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<<<

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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 10741
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/22/94 11:52a
Subj: Hitachi 3600's CD-ROM's                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LOOKING FOR A GOOD REFURBISHED CD DRIVE?
Check it out, MEG*A*BITE now has 250 used HITACHI CDR 3600 players
These units are cleaned and tested by our trained staff and givin the
go ahead to put the MEG*A*BITE exclusive 30 day uncondtional Warranty
on them.
They are exceptionaly nice internal units that can be stacked and used a
external. Very nice and very clean!
Can be daisy chained up to eight units per card.
Features:
      *    Disk loading system using a CD Caddy.
      *    Advanced Access Time (450 msec).
      *    Audio playback circuit incorporated.
      *    Lens cleaning mechanism.                    $99.00 ea
      *    Double caddy door to prevent dust.
      *    Manual Emergency Eject Mechanism.
VISA and Mastercard are gladly accepted!

Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE "Your CD-ROM drive headquarters!"
Voice   (517)892-5518
FAX     (517)892-5965
BBS     (517)892-5042
Fidonet   1:239/675
Internet  bedtelyo@cris.com


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 10742
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/22/94 11:54a
Subj: Hitachi's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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       ³ Specializing in Pre-Owned Drive's ³
       ³        for your BBS world!        ³
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From: J. ALLEN                               Number: 10743
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/22/94  7:06p
Subj: Re: NEW NIGHT OWL                       Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

On 21 Jan 94  01:30:53 , Mike Shannon said this to Dave Reed:

MS> DR:>Have you heard of the viruses yet?  ;-)  You will, soon.
MS> 
MS> Viruses?  On Night Owl 11?  Too bad.  Their track record had been so
MS> uncluttered up 'til now.  8)
MS> 
MS> .\\ike

Which files on the Niteowl 11 disk is STARVECTOR SOFTWARE claiming to
be infected with viruses???  Or is this yet another Bogus Post by Mike
Shannon again??

What is the source of this information?  
Why would two representives of STARVECTOR SOFTWARE post phony virus claims
in a national echo?  What are the files and what is your source of this 
information?

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From: SCOTT BRANDT                           Number: 10744
  To: MIKE STEFFEN                             Date: 01/22/94  1:45p
Subj: CD game for trade                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How much do you want for the san diego zoo? What did you think of it?

 Scott

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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 10745
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/22/94  6:30p
Subj: Adobe PREMIERE 3- Mac CD Version        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Shrinkwrapped Deluxe CD ROM version

        Only $325  (no swaps)

        412-761-9090

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From: RICK PEDLEY                            Number: 10746
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/22/94  7:34p
Subj: Sony external cdrom for s               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Well Brice, I expressed my opinion and you expressed yours but I almost
forgot,
>you are the ultimate authority on *everything*, aren't you?

BF>Nope - just AN authority on a lot of things.

And a pretty GOOD authority TOO I might add, other than out-of-control SHIFT
key ;-)

Rick

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From: DOUG ROBINSON                          Number: 10747
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/20/94 10:42p
Subj: ANYONE GOT ANY ADULT FOR SALE?          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone got any adult CD Roms for sale?  Respond with price and title.

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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 10748
  To: KENNETH ROACH                            Date: 01/21/94 12:09p
Subj: Toshiba Drive                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I have a Toshiba 3201B drive to part with.  Works, but needs
-> alignment. Sometimes gets "stuck" trying to read different areas of a
-> CD.  Advise if interested.

Hi Ken!
 I might be interested in this for the BBS computer,do you have a SCSI
adapter or would I need to pick one up?
 Let me know how much you want for it,


                               Diana

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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 10749
  To: RON YOUNG                                Date: 01/21/94 12:16p
Subj: Ecstasy Hot Pic's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I will give you $25 shipped for the Ecstasy Hot Pics.

Sounds good...Send a Money Order to the following address...I'll ship as
soon as I recieve the M.O.(Don't forget to put your address on the
envelope<G>).


                            Diana Kirksey
                            1624 Hwy.99 Sp#79
                            Manteca,CA. 95336

Thanks!

                                 Diana

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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 10750
  To: MICHAEL HADEN                            Date: 01/21/94 12:19p
Subj: Storm I,ii,ii, And Ecstas               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÿ@SUBJECT:STORM I,II,II, and Ecstasy Hot Pics...                      N
-> Hi Diana what kind of cds are you looking for have several that I
-> might be willing to trade let me know TTYL

Let me know what ones you have,there are a lot of CD's I would be
interested in<G>.


                        Diana


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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 10751
  To: MIKE GERVASI                             Date: 01/22/94 10:54a
Subj: Storm I,ii,iii                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I have King's Quest IV, National Parks for trade. Interested?

I'd be interested in trading one of the Storm's for the King's Quest
IV(as long as it's CD-Rom).
 Let me know which one you'd like to trade for and then we can swap.


                                    Diana

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From: LONNIE WILKERSON                       Number: 10752
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/22/94  5:12a
Subj: 19$ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿
ÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙ
                           Triple Seven Media
                     Big Seven Media TopDrawer CD
ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿
ÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙ

             That's right a great ShareWare ROM for $19.00

Big Sky Rom's newest release, TopDrawer, is now shipping; for you who
have pre ordered, it's on its way. Yeah, I know.  What kind of ROM am I
getting for 19 bucks? ANSWER..............

                Possibly the best ROM you have to date!

This ROM is published by SysOps for the SysOp.  Tired of compiling list
and heaven knows what else to get a ROM online? This is the answer you
have been waiting for, affordable files at this introductory price, to
show what TopDrawer is and can do. Files.bbs in every DIR, so simple it
can be run on a test drive of QMODEM (tm). Plus SPITFIRE (tm) files
SFFILES.BBS. And you 4DOS (tm) users will find descript.ion files. If
you're a PC-BOARD(tm) SysOp, you'll find a comprehensive SETMEUP.exe
that will install the ROM for you! (...You do have to have it in the
CD-ROM player!) grin........ All archives are compressed using pkzip
(PKWARE (tm) 204G using maximum compression. All archives and their
members have been scanned with the latest virus scanners. All files have
file_id.diz's in them, GOOD ONE's, at that; we added over 1,859 full
descriptions when none were available or the author thought that high
ASCII looked better. And on TOP of all that, we have made a great effort
to remove commercial files and other copyright infringements. Now, what
this means is that we set this ROM up for the BBS, not the end user!!!!
We have, because of current legal cases and judgments within the
publishing community, removed VOC, WAVE, and MIDI sound files. The real
programs are still there; we just deleted the lawyer syndrome. All of
the GIF's are our own, no copyright infringements to worry about. You
are licensed as the ROM owner to distribute them to your users. There is
also a feature authors DIR.  That's the authors we felt exhibited
professional demeanor in program ability and distribution ease.  Plus,
we have the text files that are the latest rage -- that is, we have
STEVE ROBERTS stuff, NOT Megabytes of FAQ's or other drivel.  We have
taken great pains to think of the user and the SysOp. You will find your
users cruising through this easy file system and praising you for the
setup (that is, if you have great users like we do). Both the SuperMart
BBS and PC-MONTANA BBS have handicapped users, and thought went into the
files and their placement to enhance the interface for these special
individuals. Ok, now to the brass tacks:  Files -- there are
4,174;that's 624 Mb + uncompressed.  Dirs -- no, not 50 or 60, just 45 ;
and this ROM will interface with our first release, BIG SKY 01, so you
don't have to do a major setup all over again! You've probably heard
other SysOps saying that they're removing such and such ROM offline
because of one problem or another.  We listen to these SysOps; you are
our bread and butter (low cost spread in this ROM's price). Now, where
can I get this ROM?  Well, read the list and you can order this baby
online or by voice.

TRIPLE SEVEN MEDIA,ltd
TeleShopee(TM)      Data  1-817-561-4606 Head Hunter BBS  (24hr)
Online Order        Data  1-817-649-1436 Babylon One BBS  (12am 12pm)
System              Voice 1-817-246-0400 Lonnie Wilkerson (8am 9pm)
                    Voice 1-817-649-1436 John Mieske      (12pm 9pm)
THE SUPERMART BBS   Data  1-406-586-3774
                    Voice 1-406-586-8344
PC-MONTANA BBS      Data  1-406-284-3120  THE MOTHER BOARD for
                                          BIG SKY ROMs !

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 10753
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/22/94 10:06a
Subj: * CD-ROM Disks for SALE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROMS for Sale

7th Guest ......................................  $49
Nautilus June 1993 Volume 3-6 Windows Edition ..  $12
TestDrive Windows Fall 1993 ....................  $11
Multimedia Audubon Mammals .....................  $18
Great Cities Volume 2 ..........................  $18
Interactive Storytime Volume 1 .................  $18
TimeTable of History ...........................  $18
Software Options CD from IBM ...................  $13
Calculus (Anton) 1st 3 chapters ................  $18
Loom ...........................................  $20
Tax-Prep 1993 ..................................  $10
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $10
World Atlas ....................................  $18
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $59
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $ 9
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $12
Phoenix-CD Version 3.0 .........................  $12
Chessmaster 3000 ...............................  $22

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Registered Symantec Q&A Consultant


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From: RICHARD KELLER                         Number: 10754
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/22/94 10:03p
Subj: SALE PC GAMES, SEGA CARTS               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÿ@SUBJECT:SALE PC GAMES, SEGA CARTS AND CD'S                          N
IBM games, Sega Carts and Sega CD's for Sale. Prices include shipping.

IBM PC Games:  All have boxs and manuals.

Terminator Rampage                         $35
Street Fighter 2                           $45
Wing Commander 1                           $30
Earth Invasion 16.7M color Windows game    $30
Kings Quest 5, 256 color ONLY version      $30
Dejavu                            $20
Bards Tale 1                      $20
Eye of the Beholder 1             $25
Collectors Edition Tin (Monopoly/Clue/Risk)  $30

Sega Menacer Light Gun with T2 cart:   $55

SEGA CARTS  (( any 4 carts for $105)) All have manuals.

Granada Tank                               $25
Atomic Robo Kid                            $25
Populous                                   $25
Turrican                                   $30
Raiden Trad                                $30
Slaughter Sport (Mondus Fight Palace)      $30
Streets of Rage                            $30
Street Smart                               $30
Shadow of the Beast 1                      $30
Lakers vs Celtics                          $30
Ultimate QIX                               $30
John Madden 1 Football (first)             $30
Altered Beast                              $30
Ghouls and Ghosts                          $30
Sonic the Hedgehog 1                       $30
Sports Talk Baseball 1                     $30


SEGA CD's: All have manuals.

Sherlock Holmes 1                          $25
Willy Beamish                              $35
Hook                                       $35
Wolf Child                                 $35
Prince of Persia                           $35
WonderDog                                  $35
Blackhole Assault                          $35
Chuck Rock                                 $35
Sol Feace                                  $25


Will trade for IBM PC CD's or money.  I work odd hours so call and leave
a message for Richard Keller at 609-586-7136.
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From: JEFF WOERTZ                            Number: 10755
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 01/22/94 11:16a
Subj: for sale/trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am interested in purchasing Rebel Assault from you.  Is it still
available ?  If so, please leave a message here or call me at
(215)675-8886 Thanks !  Jeff Woertz
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From: JEFF WOERTZ                            Number: 10756
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/22/94 11:20a
Subj: programs WANTED                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for these two programs.  If anyone would like to sell them
to me USED, please leave a message here or call (215)675-8886 Eastern
time.  Thanks !  Jeff Woertz

REBEL ASSAULT CD-ROM
COMANCHE:MAXIMUM OVERKILL MISSION DISK #1 OR #2.

Thank you !
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From: JEFF AVERY                             Number: 10757
  To: DANIEL COULOMBE                          Date: 01/22/94  1:17p
Subj: SYSOP COMMENT  NODE (#21)               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Howdy! A quick note about a problem my roomate had recently - I signed
up on Thurs nite, and after watching over my shoulder, he decided to do
the same Friday nite. Unfortunately, after going through the
registration process, he's having problems logging in now (his name's
Greg Counsell). If there's a problem with his account, could you please
post me a short note to pass along to him? Thanks. (and by the way, I
LOVE THIS PLACE!) Jeff Avery.
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From: JEFF BAKER                             Number: 10758
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 01/21/94 12:37p
Subj: Storm I,ii,ii + Ecstasy H               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> ÿ@ORIGIN :** Deanna's StarBBS  (209) 239-0883   24Hrs **
-> ÿ@SUBJECT:Storm I,II,II + Ecstasy Hot Pic's for Trade
-> Hi!
->  I have the Adult Cd's Storm I,Storm II,Storm III and Ecstasy Hot Pic
-> for Sale or Trade for Non-adult Cd's.
->  ** Only Adults need reply **
->
->
->                                Diana
->
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Diana:  How does the Storm CD's compare to the Hot Pic's?  I have Ectasy
and am very pleased with it. Haven't found another CD that has all the
variety the Ectasy has. What kind of Non-Adult are you looking for?


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10759
  To: TERRY SMITH                              Date: 01/21/94 12:03p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1 OF 5                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Brice's Library
 CD-ROM Price List 14 January 1993

 5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
 Indianapolis, IN 46220
 Tue Thu 11am - 8pm  Wed Fri 11am - 6pm  EST
 (317) 726-1980 voice  (317) 726-1387 BBS (24 hour, 1200/2400/v.32 supported)

 FidoNet 1:231/190   InterNet sysop@f190.n231.z1.fidonet.org
 All prices are in U.S. Dollars and include any applicable Sales Tax.
 U.S. Shipping included if prepaid (please allow 7 days for check to clear).
 Sales to out-of-U.S. addresses require payment in U.S. funds.
 We cannot accept Credit Card payment at this time.
 If you don't see a specific title that you are looking for, please CALL!
 I add new titles almost constantly!


 Infocomm 10 Year Aniversery Coll. 79  Louis Armstrong Multi Record      29
 1000 Sound Effects                49  Lovejoy's College Councel. (MPC)  79
 1001 Utilities                    10  Lovely Ladies II                  31
 1992 CD-ROM Collection w/CIA      63  Lucas Arts Game Pack II (OEM)     20
 20'th Century Almanac (5 disc)    72  Lucas Arts Mac Game Pack II       26
 20'th Century Art                 49  Lunicus (Mac)                     69
 20'th Century People (OEM)        25  Lyric Language French (PC/Mac)    40
 20'th Century Sports (OEM)        25  Lyric Language Spanish (PC/Mac)   40
 20000 Leagues Under the Sea (Mac) 69  MacMillan Dict for Children (OEM) 19
 3'd Body Adventure (MPC)          79  MacMillan Dict. for Children (Mac 39
 3D Tutor (Mac)                   119  Macromind Action! (OEM)           28
 501 Sound Waves                   19  Mad Dog McCree                    35
 600 Days to Cocos Island (Mac)    59  Made in the USA (PC/Mac)          36
 7'th Guest (OEM)                  36  Madness of Roland (Mac)           50
 7'th Guest (Mac)                  99  Magic Death (MPC)                 49
 9 Digit Zip Codes                 32  Magic Death (Mac)                 49
 9000 Sounds                       24  Magic Flute (Mac)                 55
 A Christmas Carol                 26  Majestic Places (PC/Mac)          36
 A Christmas Carol (FTL)           56  Mammals (Nat. Geographic)         23
 A Silly Noisy House (MPC)         59  Man Enough                        59
 A Silly Noisy House (Mac)         49  Manhole                           35
 A+ Grade Builder                  34  Manhole (OEM)                     25
 About Cows                        25  Manpower                          29
 AD&D Dark Sun: Shattered Lands    69  Mantis Experimental Fighter (OEM) 16
 AD&D Dungeon Hack                 49  Maps 'n' Facts PC Globe           47
 AD&D Fantasy Empires              59  Mario is Missing Deluxe (OEM)     20
 ADA Programming                   19  Mario Missing w/World Atlas (OEM) 20
 Adobe Type on Call                81  Mario Teaches Typing              64
 Adobe Type on Call (Windows)      83  Mars Explorer                     41
 Adventures                        40  Masterpiece Library               36
 Adventures in Heaven              15  Math Blaster Spot                 49
 Adventures of Pinocchio (MAC)     59  Matinee Screen Saver              43
 Adventures of Willy Beamish (OEM) 17  Mavis Beacon Typing (MPC) (OEM)   16
 Aegis Guardian Fleet              68  Max the Dragon (PC/Mac)           55
 Aesopolis (Mac)                   69  Mayo Clinic (MPC) (OEM)           18
 Aesop's Fables (eBook)            40  Mayo Clinic (Mac) (OEM)           24
 AGFA Intro PAC - 20 Typefaces     82  MCS CD Master                     29
 Airbrush Portfolio (PC/Mac)       69  MCS SOund Review vol. 1           39
 Air Warrier                       58  Media Clips 3-pack (MPC) (OEM)    45
 Aircraft Encyclopedia             27  Mega A/V                          26
 Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp    34  Mega Clipart (OEM)                27
 Aladdin's Lamp (EA) (DOS)         47  Mega CD-ROM v.1                   20
 All American Sports               47  Mega CD-ROM v.2                   26
 All Music Guide                   55  Mega Media I                      26
 Aloha, Hawaii!                    20  Mega Movie Guide                  39
 Alone in the Dark                 69  Mega ROM 3.2 (Mac)                89
 Amanda Stories (MPC)              41  Mega WinOS/2                      26
 Amanda Stories (Mac)              49  Megarace                          59
 Amazing Universe (PC/Mac)         59  Microcosm                         85
 America Adventure                 69  Microprose CD Sampler             15
 America Alive Guidedisc (DOS)     59  Microprose Collection (OEM)       28
 America Alive Guidisc (Mac)       87  Microsoft Bookshelf '93 (OEM)     38
 American Business Phone Book '92  14  Microsoft Golf                    45
 American Business Phone Book '93  25  Microsoft Mozart                  54
 American Heritage Ilus Ency Dict  50  Microsoft Multimedia Pack (OEM)   69
 American Journey 1896-1945        45  Microsoft Musical Inst. (Mac)     79
 American Vista Atlas (MPC) (OEM)  27  Microsoft Stravisky               54
 American Vista Atlas (Mac)        60  Microsoft Works (OEM)             38
 America's Premier Shareware       14  Middle East Diary                 26
 Americans in Space (PC/Mac)       57  MIDI Connection                   56
 Aminet                            15  MIDI Music Shop for Windows       17
 Anecdotes v.1                     14  Midnight Movie Madness            49
 Anecdotes v.2                     14  Might and Magic: World of Xeen    69
 Anecdotes v.3                     14  Mixed Up Mother Goose (OEM)       17
 Anglo-Saxons                      44  Monarch Notes (PC/Mac)            40
 Animal Alphabet (MPC)             49  Money, Money, Money! (OEM)        19
 Animal Kingdom (PC/Mac)           39  Monster Disk (2 discs)            30
 Animal Tales                      59  Monster Media '93                 23
 Animals Encyclopedia (MPC) (OEM)  27  Monster Media '93 #2              28
 Animals in Motion                 40  Mosaic Magic                      29
 Animals San Diego Zoo (DOS) (OEM) 19  Mosaic Magic (Mac)                49
 Animals San Diego Zoo (MPC) (OEM) 20  Mother of All Clip Art            14
 Animals San Diego Zoo (Mac) (OEM) 23  Motion Picture Guide              89
 Animation Festival (MPC) (OEM)    20  Movie Select                      55
 Animation Magic (Win)             58  Movie Select (Mac)                55
 Annabel's Dream Ancient Egy (Mac) 55  Movies on TV and Video (PC/Mac)   34
 Annabel's Dream Medival Eng (DOS) 69  Mowgli's Brothers                 36
 Annabel's Dream Medival Eng (Mac) 69  Mozart (MPC) (OEM)                20
 APL Volume I                      19  Mozart Multimedia Musicbook       37
 Apollo 8 Go For TLI               30  Mozart Multimedia Musicbook (Mac) 38
 Arcade                            45  Mozart: Dissonant Quartet         49
 Archives of History (DOS)         65  MPC Wizard (OEM)                  14
 Archives of History (Mac)         69  MS Art Gallery                    79
 Arctic Baron                      39  MS Art Gallery (Mac)              79
 Art Appeal Series                 89  MS-DOS Explorer 3                 35
 Art of Ancient Egypt v.4          65  Multi Bible                       89
 Art of Renaisance II              95  Multimedia Animal Encyc. (Mac)    59
 Art Library 3 Pack                89  Multimedia Audio Collection       30
 Arthur Teacher Troubl (MPC) (OEM) 22  Multimedia Audubon Birds (PC/Mac) 19
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble (Mac)    49  Multimedia Audbn Mammals (PC/Mac) 19
 ASP Advantage                     20  Multimedia Environments           29
 Astrology Source (PC/Mac)         59  Multimedia Handisc (Mac)          87
 Atlas of U.S. Presidents          26  Multimedia Magic Collection       15
 Audioshop (Mac)                   75  Multimedia Mania                  19
 Authorware Star (MPC) (OEM)       34  Murder Makes Strange Deadfellows  45
 Autodesk Explorer                 85  Murmurs of Earth (3 disc) (PC/Mac 44
 B17 Flying Fortress/S.S. II (OEM) 30  Music Magic                       39
 Baccus and Comus (Mac)            50  Musical World Pro Piccolo         69
 Backroad Racers                   59  Mutanoid Math & Word Challenge    39
 Baker's Dozen Game Pack Windows   15  MVP Game Jamboree                 12
 Barney Bear Goes to School        14  My Advanced Label Designer        54
 Barney Bear Goes to Space         14  The Myst (Mac)                    79
 Barron's Book Notes (OEM)         30  NAFTA on CD-ROM (PC/Mac)          89
 Barron's Book Notes (Mac)         74  Napoleonics                       59
 Baseball's Greatest Hits (Mac)    59  National Parks of America (PC/Mac 69
 Battle Chess (original) (OEM)     20  National Parks Guide (MPC)        54
 Battle Chess (enhanced) (OEM)     25  National Parks (MPC) (OEM)        20
 Battle Chess (enhanced) (Mac)     68  Nature Graphics I                 26
 Beauty and the Beast (OEM) (MPC)  17  Nautilus Backpack Vol.II          41
 Beethoven: The 9'th Symphony      79  Nautilus Backpack Vol. III        69
 Berlitz Thnk Tlk French (PC/Mac) 105  Nautilus Backpack v.3 (Mac)       69
 Berlitz T & T German (PC/Mac)    109  Nautilus Backpack v.4 (Mac)       69
 Berlitz T & T Italian (PC/Mac)   129  Nautilus Backpack v.5 (Mac)       69
 Berlitz T & T Spanish (PC/Mac)   109  Nautilus Best of MIDI (PC/Mac)    79
 Best Business                     25  Nautilus Best of Ent. v.1 (Mac)   54
 Best of Macintosh Shareware       49  Nautilus Best of Photography      69
 Best of Microprose                22  Nautilus Intro (OEM)              19
 Better H&G Gardening (PC/Mac)     69  Naval Pack                        69
 Better H&G Hlthy Cooking (PC/Mac) 57  Nebula for NextStep               35
 Between Heaven and Hell 2         40  New Basics Electronic Cookbook    58
 Bible Lands and Stories           40  New Basics Electronic Cookb (OEM) 24
 Bible Library                     69  New Family Bible (MPC/Mac)        49
 Bible Library  (OEM)              24  New Kid on the Block
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10760
  To: TED GREVERS                              Date: 01/21/94 12:06p
Subj: MACINTOSH SHAREWARE.                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Lookin' fer a Mac shareware CD.

 I carry the "Info-Mac" and "garbo" discs for Mac - see my price list a message
or 5 back.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Men are more sentimental than women, blurs our thinking.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10761
  To: BRIAN KELLER                             Date: 01/21/94 12:08p
Subj: REBEL ASSAULT PASSCODES                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>what does<g> mean!

 grin.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Adam - this is MUCH neater than QuickBBS!

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From: RICK BERKHEIMER                        Number: 10762
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/21/94  9:29a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ML>JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************

Me too, me too, send to me this wonderful offer.

Rick Berkheimer
3447 Williams NE
Salem, OR 97303

 * SLMR 2.0 #T348 * If you need expert advise your in the wrong forum


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From: GERARDO GRANE                          Number: 10763
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/22/94  2:45p
Subj: !FREE CD CATALOG!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Joe, please send me a cd catalog.

Gerardo Grane
8700 SW 80 ST.
Miami, Fl 33173-4116

thanks.. 

___
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From: DOUG HUNKELE                           Number: 10764
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/22/94  2:49p
Subj: ADULT CD-ROM PRICES                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike,

  are any of the listed ADULT CD's copyrighted simular to BB II????

Thanks.

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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 10765
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/21/94 10:56p
Subj: INFO-MAGIC                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

19 Jan 94 12:50, Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Mike Bilow:

 BF>  Actually, I just found a distributor that I CAN afford to carry them
 BF> regularly from.

 BF>  Pricing right now is:

 BF>  Internet Tools - $30   Linux $13   Source Code $30   Standards $30
 BF>  Unix $30    UseNet $15

 BF>  Shipping included if prepaid.

 BF>  I've got one of the UseNet and one of the Linux in stock right now....

Brice, what is the USENET cd? I mean, what type of stuff of is on it?


Roger

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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 10766
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 01/21/94  6:04p
Subj: Re: Os/2                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the info.....C-Ya,Chip SLate

... BEWARE - Tagline Thief in this echo
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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 10767
  To: BRIAN KELLER                             Date: 01/21/94  7:53p
Subj: Re: WING COMMANDER @                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Brian Keller to All <=-

 BK> for sale wing commander 2 on cd rom comes with speach
 BK> pack and op 1 and 2 will sell for $25.00 e mail me
 BK> or call me at 1-203-431-6850 thank!
Do you trADE ANY?????   c-yA,cHIP sLATE



... "Mr. Worf, fire phasers at Brian" ... Zzzzzap!
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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 10768
  To: MIKE GERVASI                             Date: 01/22/94  6:25p
Subj: Re: Cd's for trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Gervasi to Chip Slate <=-

 MG> Then it happened...... 
 
 MG> I have the following for trade:


 
 MG> Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective vol I

 MG> CSWill trade you Stellar 7 for Sher. Holmes..........

 MG> Ok. Give me your address and I'll send it out.

 MG> Mine is:
 MG> 
 MG> Mike Gervasi
 MG> US NAS PSC 1002 Box 1174
 MG> FPO AE 09727

 MG> Send it US mail as UPS and such won't deliver to FPO addresses.
 MG> 
 MG> Thanks,
 MG> Mike

 MG> Mike
You might want to look back at the message you got that from! I replied 
to that guy besides i only have Vol. 2 and Vol. 3...plus i have stellar 7.
                                C-Ya,Chip Slate



... The OFFICIAL tagline of the 1996 Olympics!
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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 10769
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/22/94  6:26p
Subj: Re: OEM                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Chip Slate <=-

 >Can someone please tell me what the !@#$% *OEM* means!!!>..

 BF> In a CD-ROM context, OEM refers to a type of packaging - usually just
 BF> the jewel case and docs shrink-wrapped together, or docs small enough
 BF> to fit IN the jewel case, or occasionally the disc in a cardboard
 BF> sleeve shrink-wrapped to the docs. Such discs are INTENDED to be sold
 BF> as part of a "bundle" with a drive.

Thanks a lot i like it better when people give more explanatory meanings
than just little dinky explanations....C-Ya,Chip Slate




... This tagline is made just for Brice Fleckenstein
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From: MIKE BILOW                             Number: 10770
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/21/94  4:21p
Subj: CD-DRIVES PLUS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I was looking for the Info-Magic series of disks, including their
>"Internet Standards."

 BF>  I carry all of them over here.

Good deal.  You seem to be the only dealer on the echo who does.  What are your
prices?  Do you have a catalogue available for FReq?

>Yggdrasil also puts out an interesting Linux disk

 BF>  Also available, and appears that it MIGHT be distributed by Walnut Creek.

WC has their own Linux disk, I think, meaning that there are three: Info-Magic,
Yggdrasil, and WC.  This is starting to get confusing.  I get mailing direct
from WC, but I don't really want to pay their list prices when street price
here is about 50% off.

-- Mike

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From: ROCKY HURLEY                           Number: 10771
  To: JOHN POE                                 Date: 01/22/94  2:56p
Subj: !free cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello John!

20 Jan 94 12:18, John Poe wrote to Rocky Hurley:

 JP> @GMD: 1:280/1
 JP> I didn't see who was offering the free cat. would you tell me who
 JP> so I can drop them a line.

Don't remember...

Sorry!~

Rocky

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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 10772
  To: ROGER DAVIS                              Date: 01/22/94  7:39p
Subj: Cds To Swap                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Battle Chess - Enhanced version

I'm interested in this CD.I would trade one of the 3 Storm Adult
CD's...If interested,let me know.

                             Diana

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From: RAY LAI                                Number: 10773
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/23/94  2:51a
Subj: CD ROM of                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Oriental girls, XXX or famous celebrites.  DOes one exist.

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 10774
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/22/94 11:39p
Subj: NEW NIGHT OWL                           Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hello Mike!

Friday January 21 1994 01:30, Mike Shannon wrote to Dave Reed:

 MS> Viruses?  On Night Owl 11?  Too bad.  Their track record had been so
 MS> uncluttered up 'til now.  8)

<grin>

Hey... I've been working on putting together that FidoNet mailer for you. Which
do you want...  FrontDoor or BinkleyTerm?  You're getting BinkleyTerm.

Later,

Dave

... "Ismail! That! Feels! Good!"   "It's head, Jim."

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From: MARK KITCHEN                           Number: 10775
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/23/94  2:11a
Subj: Cdrom For sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

1 - Hitachi CdRom Drive  (External)
1 - Interface Card
1 - Sound Blaster

ToTal =  100.00

Access Time is  550ms  (Kinda Slow but great for bbs's)


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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10776
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/23/94  2:45a
Subj: !discounted Fedex shippin               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    It pleases us to announce that due to our growing shipping volume,
FedEXpress has become our preferred courier.  USPS Priority was our
preferred method, however,  recent performance such as week-long delays
and damaged jewel cases made us look elsewhere. We contacted all the
other couriers to see who would offer our customers the best deal.
FedEX won the bid by allowing us to offer their economy service, which
is as close to guaranteed two-day service as anyone will offer, for only
$3.00 additional over USPS priorty rates.  Of course, we will continue
to offer your preferred shipper, as we have accounts with all of the
major couriers. config.sys, Inc./ voice: 216.296.9831 data:216.296.2244

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10777
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/23/94  2:46a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
                        ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3600 CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee

                    ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee

                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
14.4 Power supply..................$10.00 ea.
external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
Shipping (drives)$25.00 for up to 2 drives,$40.00 for 3-4 drives.

                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****

As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
offering all refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit,
to be shipped upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30
days for receipt of your refurbished drive.

                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: MAJIC NAME: "CONFIG" gets all CD-ROM oriented files
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariat.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10778
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/23/94  2:46a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For 1,500+ CD-Titles & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip, descript.zip (or) MAJIC word CONFIG gets both
The Blue Parrot CD-ROM SUPPORT RBBS offers non-backboned echo config
for daily cdlist updates, news, game reviews, & more.
All config.sys cd-rom support files are available to all NEW users!

Fido: 1:157/479 - RBBS: 8:965/13 - Kesher: 18:711/176 - WWIV: 2@2659
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.|Voice: (216) 296.9831 or 296.4446 24hrs
P.O. Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240  |BBS/Fax: 216.296.2244 - 23hrs 16.8k ZYX
Internet: joe@config.wariat.org|>>>>>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<<<

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From: AUDIE VICKERS                          Number: 10779
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 01/20/94  8:53a
Subj: Re: Flame? anybody seen i               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

LN>WD>> Stareware...As I have those disks already...and you can keep Busty
LN>WD>> Babes 2...1/4 of the disk is shareware fonts and junk....

LN>Hey.....the disc is 1,001 images and a bonus was added to include the
LN>shareware. The disc film was made generic to look like a shareware disc so t
LN>it could make it to the overseas markets that would confiscate it.

LN>Let's not put this out of perspective, but take comfort in knowing, that we
LN>will never bonus any future disc's and shareware will never appear again. So
LN>ask you, what would you have a better chance of benefiting from, dead space
LN>maybe 1 shareware program that provided some entertainment ?

  Hey, wait a minute, Lee.  I'm STILL going through BBII shareware, and
  yes, it does keep me entertained ( not so much as the BBs though... ).
  So my vote: unless you can figure a way to tack the dead space on the
  end of my hard drive, I'd rather it be filled with something.


 * OLX 2.2 * ...quit 'yer grinnin' and drop your carrier!!


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From: AUDIE VICKERS                          Number: 10780
  To: MATTHEW LYNCH                            Date: 01/21/94  8:11a
Subj: Re: Anyone got a....                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ML> Hey out there....  Does anyone have a Battle Chess Enhanced CD or a
ML> Chess Master 3000 (or National Lampoon's Chess Master 5 Billion, for
ML> that matter) They'd be willing to part with for a few bucks and

  Got a CD that has Chessmaster 3000, Mavis Beacon, and the Software
  Toolworks U.S. and World Atlas...
  Will consider trades.  You can get in touch with me here, or:
  (407) 348-7057 eves & weekends,
  (407) 281-4103 x156 Mon-Fri, 7:00a-4:30p.


 * OLX 2.2 * ...quit 'yer grinnin' and drop your carrier!!


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From: AUDIE VICKERS                          Number: 10781
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 01/21/94  8:18a
Subj: Storm I,ii,ii + Ecstasy H               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DK>DK>DK>Hi!
DK> I have the Adult Cd's Storm I,Storm II,Storm III and Ecstasy Hot Pic's
DK>for Sale or Trade for Non-adult Cd's.


  I have:
  The Software Toolworks CD Deluxe Pack which has:
     Chessmaster 3000
     Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing
     Software Toolworks U.S. Atlas 3.0
     Software Toolworks World Atlas 3.2

  and I have Stellar7
  Interested??


 * OLX 2.2 * Math illiteracy affects eight out of every five people.


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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 10782
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/23/94  1:45a
Subj: Mail                                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

On 21 Jan 94 01:30am, Mike Shannon wrote to Ken Matthews:

KM:>>Busty Babies 1 "the original version"
KM:>>75 dollars, price includes 2nd mail shipping!

>     You might want to send that UPS instead of US Mail.  It is a federal
>     offense to send XXX material through the US Mail system, especially one

Thanks Mike, As I posted  in my message above, I never mentioned "US" mail,
I always send things UPS Mail! Thanks, for pointing that out though.
BTW, I'm really looking forward to your new and improved catalog. Can't
imagine how it can get any better than it aready is though.. I upload it
to the BBS's around this area, That files seems to get downloaded alot too..
Please post when it is ready to be downloaded from your BBS!

                 Ken
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 10783
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 01/22/94 11:39p
Subj: Re: Bbv2 For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ok, BB 1 v3 for SEedy rom v6.  Done, send me your address.  We each ship via
2nd day mail.
 
Please send to:
 
Scott raley
box 76
Ridge, MD 20680-0076
 

thanks again..


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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 10784
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 01/22/94 11:40p
Subj: Bbv2 For Trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If the deal I have for bb 1 v 3 for seedy rom 6 doesn't go through I will let
you know.  I will purchase Fao1 from you for $25 shipped to me.
 
what do you say?
 
Thanks
Scott Raley


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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 10785
  To: BRYAN COTTER                             Date: 01/22/94 11:41p
Subj: JPEG CD's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry someone gave me $33 for it today.  I will give you $33 for APL, shipped
to me via 2nd day mail. What do you say?
 
Please let me know.
 
thanks
Scott Raley


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From: JIGER DESAI                            Number: 10786
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/22/94 10:49a
Subj: Re: LOOKING FOR A CD ROM                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF> >"Tiger Software,"
BF> 
BF>  Don't bother - they tend to have HIGH pricing for what they
BF> offer.
BF>  I normally toss all of their "junk mail" unread any more....
  
  There not too high, it's just that they have some pretty good bundles. There
prices are not dirt cheap but there're modest, abd the bundles make them a
fairly good deal.
  
                                        ..jig....
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From: FRANK GRESH                            Number: 10787
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/23/94  7:03a
Subj: Penthouse Interactive                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike, curious if you, or any of the other dealers in this conference
will be carrying any of the Penthouse Interactive CD's.  From the
glimpse I got of them on TV the other night, they don't appear to be
XXX, but I understand people not carrying them if they are deemed XXX.
Any input from anyone would be appreciated.

Frank
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10788
  To: RICK BECKENSTEN                          Date: 01/22/94 12:00a
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RB:>Does your Microsoft Works CD include documentation?

Yes it does.

RB:>What's the best way to order?  Fax or Phone?

Either will do, or you can order through our BBS order door @ 509-457-0206.

Talk to ya later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.00


 * SLMR 2.1a * This tagline contains 100% NutraSweet

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10789
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/22/94 12:00a
Subj: NEW CATALOG, LOWER $$$!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

***************************************************************************
   FREQ OR DOWNLOAD STARVECTOR'S CURRENT CATALOG W/ 400+ CD-ROM TITLES!
***************************************************************************

 To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 400+
 CD-ROM titles that we stock, you may either download our catalog file from
 our BBS, or Freq (file request) it.

 BBS:   509-457-0206 - Download STARCAT.EXE from <F>ile menu. (1st call)
 FREQ:  1:3407/101 - File request STARCAT.ZIP

 Our new BBS now has an online order door with all our current titles and
 new lower prices!  All callers may d/l our catalog and/or place an order
 on the first call!

 Please feel free to call our BBS at 509-457-0206.  The system is using a
 U.S.R. Sportster 14.4, so you should have no problem logging on at any
 speed between 300bps and 14,400bps.

 While online, you may want to download one or more of the CD-ROM file
 listings that are available also.

 The Starvector BBS is online, and waiting to serve you!  Look for
 continuous updates and improvements in the near future, with more CD
 file listings, new online doors, and more!


 * SLMR 2.1a * '94 L.A. quake survivor.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10790
  To: TED GREVERS                              Date: 01/22/94 12:00a
Subj: Macintosh Shareware.                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TG:>Lookin' fer a Mac shareware CD. Capacity not important.. but nothing that
wa
TG:>intended to run on a IIe.

We have three.  Otherware I which has 300mb of Mac and 300mb of Amiga
shareware @ $22.  Garbo w/ approx 350mb of Mac shareware @ $14.30, and
Mac Shareware w/ approx. 400mb @ $18.70.  If interested, give us a call!

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.00


 * SLMR 2.1a * Perot of Borg:  Resistance?  Now that's just sad.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10791
  To: ANDY ROFF                                Date: 01/22/94 12:01a
Subj: night owl                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AR:>How would I go about getting a copy of night owl 11 and what assurances
AR:>are therre that the virus problem is solved.

Andy,

This go-round Night Owl has wisely used three different virus-scanners to
check their files, so the likelihood of a virus being discovered is slight,
but still possible as is the case with most shareware CD's.  11 is now
shipping at $29.90.  If you would like to order, contact us at the number
below.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.00


 * SLMR 2.1a * I still miss my ex-wife, but my aim is getting better.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10792
  To: SCOTT RUBY                               Date: 01/22/94 12:01a
Subj: CD-ROM SOFTWARE 2 OF 2                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF:>>AE>  WHERE IS CARMEN SAN DIE     $ 34.95

Scott,

We have these in stock at $21.90 if you're interested.  It is the jewel
case version w/ manual.

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.00


 * SLMR 2.1a * ...Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball...

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10793
  To: GUY ROTTY                                Date: 01/22/94 12:01a
Subj: NEW 1994 CD-ROM LIST! PT1               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF:>>Mike, I'm interested in the following Cd-roms :
BF:>> Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..49.00

Sorry Guy, I've been out of town and missed your original post, so I had
to pick it up from Brice's reply.  We do have them in stock.  Price now is
$46.10.  Contact us at the # below if you'd like to order.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.00


 * SLMR 2.1a * I'm leaving my body to science fiction...

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10794
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/22/94 12:01a
Subj: NEW 1994 CD-ROM LIST! PT1               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF:>>Mike, I'm interested in the following Cd-roms :
BF:>> Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..49.00

BF:> I'd be interested where Mike is getting these if he comes up with it - all
BF:>the distributors I deal with have been OUT for over a month now.

Ha, wouldn't you like to know!  Neener neener neener!!!! <g>

BF:> 'Course, he may have 100's in stock or something....

Not quite that many, but they have been kinda popular lately so it may be
slim pickins before too long.

Later,
.\\ike


 * SLMR 2.1a * It's Ensign Pillsbury....he's bread Jim.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10795
  To: MIKE BILOW                               Date: 01/22/94 12:01a
Subj: INFO-MAGIC                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF:>>>Does anyone here carry the Info-Magic or Yggdrasil line of Unix-oriented

We carry the Yggdrasil Linux CD at $27.

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.00


 * SLMR 2.1a * I'm leaving my body to science fiction...

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10796
  To: ROB O'DELL                               Date: 01/22/94 12:01a
Subj: SPECIAL                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Give me a price on 2 Pier 3's and 1 Cream of the Crop II.

Rob,

We can supply you with that package for $59.

>Also, do you have any adult CDs?

We carry only the "R"-rated titles like Digital Dreams 1 & 2, Amateur
Models, Southern Beaties, etc.

Give us a call sometime if we can help.

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.00


 * SLMR 2.1a * Dammit Jim!  I'm a doctor, not a tagline!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10797
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/22/94 12:01a
Subj: TOP 5 NEW CD-ROM TITLES                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #2:  TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES   |
         |________________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

 CD POWERBOX 2 * The newest of the new! Current shareware hits. BBS..$25.60
>NIGHT OWL 11 * Yes, it's here.  BBS-ready...........................$29.90
>PC-SIG 13 * Finally!  A must-have for you PC-SIG fans...............$24.90
>CREAM OF THE CROP 2 * All '93 files with automatic BBS installation.$25.00
>COMPANION FOR OS/2 * Recent OS/2 shareware files! BBS-ready.........$18.90

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 ORDERS...............509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 FAX/INFO/ORDERS......509-457-2966..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 400+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * Perot of Borg:  Resistance?  Now that's just sad.

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From: JESSE COLLINS                          Number: 10798
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/23/94  9:08p
Subj: Night Owl                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HI Everybody,
  We are in the process of looking and tring to obtain versions 1.0 thru
 5.0 of the Night Owl CD_Roms and was wondering if anybody has seen or
would like to sell them any help would be very welcome....
                         Jesse


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From: JASON RUIZ                             Number: 10799
  To: DAVID CARMICHAEL                         Date: 01/23/94  9:27p
Subj: Re: Printer(s) For Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

which type of HP ink jet is it??  
 
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From: MIKE STEFFEN                           Number: 10800
  To: SCOTT BRANDT                             Date: 01/22/94  9:55p
Subj: CD game for trade                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> How much do you want for the san diego zoo? What did you think of it?

Hold on a sec.  I don't have San Diego Zoo.  That's what I want!

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From: WESLEY CHEW                            Number: 10801
  To: SHAWN HARDENBROOK                        Date: 01/23/94 12:41a
Subj: RE: MITSUMI INTERNAL  CD                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 >-=> Quoting Ronald Leon who babbled to Wesley Chew <=-
 >
 >WC> >
 >WC> > $150 plus shipping, COD is $5.
 >WC>
 >WC>The Double speed Mitsumi is currently being sold for 197 bucks at
 >WC>Best Buy with 16bit controller!
 > 
 >RL> Are you playing price police are trying to make a point of some sort?
 > 
 > Actually, Best Buy sells the Mitsumi 2x speed for $180 in Dallas.  I 
 > think 
 > the point is that you're asking too much for used, old technology.

Hey Shaw, I could agree you with not more! Thanxs for your support.
    

Wes


... you'll be given a fair trial, after which you'll be shot!

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 10802
  To: STEVE PROCTOR                            Date: 01/23/94  8:52a
Subj: Medical CD's                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SP>Hello All!

SP>I am interesed in Medical CD's.  I am going for my EMT and was hoping to fin
SP>a few CD's out there that are related to the field.  I know there is one
SP>called BodyWorks and the Family Doctor but wonder how good they are and what
SP>else is out there?

SP>Steve Proctor, Team-OS/2
SP>Sproctor@netcom.com
SP>--- GEcho 1.02+
SP> * Origin: The Microline OS/2 BBS Sacramento, CA 916-641-6930 (1:203/529)
 Get Mayo Health Clinic, I was pretty impressed by the full detail of
 coverage in it!
                                                Sam Figueroa

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 10803
  To: ROGER DAVIS                              Date: 01/23/94  8:57a
Subj: CDs to SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RD>Have the following cds that I would like to swap. Am interested in adult and
RD>games.

RD>MPC Wizard 2.0
RD>ROMaterial
RD>WIN CD Professional
RD>Best of the Bureau (samples)
RD>Wilsondisc - Readers' Guide Abstracts Select Edition
RD>Shakespeare - The complete works
RD>PC Magazine - Select Demos
RD>Sing Along Classics - vol 1102
RD>CD-ROM Premiere - Worlds First Totally Interactive CD rom Sampler
RD>Battle Chess - Enhanced version

RD>XXX Extreme


RD>Roger

RD>--- GoldED 2.41
RD> * Origin: Esc1.70 - Walk the Glory Road! (512)440-7670 (1:382/91.2)
Can you give me some more info on the CD-ROM Premiere disc and what is
mostly contained on XXX Extreme and do I need a fast cdrom for Battle
Chess?
                Sam Figueroa

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 10804
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/23/94  9:00a
Subj: ADULT CD-ROM PRICES                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MS> **************************************************************************
MS> January 1994         SOFTCORE ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST    Last update: 1/21
MS> **************************************************************************

MS> >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
MS> >>>         ORDER BY PHONE WITH YOUR CHECKBOOK!  COMING SOON!          <<<
MS> >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

MS>                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
MS>                     ---------------------------------
MS> Amateur Models................25.00    Girls of Mardi Gras (New!)....39.50
MS> American Girls (New!).........31.40    High Volume Nudes.............31.40
MS> Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......29.00    L.A. Strippers (Movie)........39.50
MS> Digital Dancing (Movie).......48.00    Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......29.80
MS> Digital Dreams 1..............23.30    Photo Gallery.................34.60
MS> Digital Dreams 2 (New!).......25.30    Southern Beauties.............26.60
MS> Digital Dreams 2-Pak..........45.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....25.00
MS> Giffy Gold....................29.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....21.70

MS>                 - Prices subject to change without notice -
MS>    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
MS>           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
MS>    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

MS> ORDERS...............509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
MS> FAX/INFO/ORDERS......509-457-2966..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
MS> BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
MS> INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
MS> COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
MS> FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions

MS> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
MS> VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


MS> * SLMR 2.1a * If at first you don't succeed, call it Night Owl 10.0

MS>--- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
MS> * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/10
 Mike,
        How good is a disc called So Much Stareware?
                        Sam Figueroa

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From: STEVE KOPP                             Number: 10805
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/22/94 11:43p
Subj: Wing commander2/Ultima Un               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

************************************************************************
                        F O R   S A L E
************************************************************************

CD_ROM game

Wing commander II and Ultima Underworld - Normally sales for $60.00
(both on the same CD)
I will let it go for $45.00 to the first person that gets ahold of me..

Steve Kopp
If you would like to call then the phone number is (319)373-9760

other games for sale but not a CD-ROM is Wing Commander - Privateer
I will let this one go for $40.00.  I should still have all the
registation cards for both the cd-rom games and wing commander.

I will pay for shiping to all games...

I also have Street Fighter II and I will sell that one for $30.00


I will let all of them go for $100.00 as long as they all go together..

Wing Commander II - Vengeance of the Kilrath! \/
Ultima Underworld - The Stygion Abyss  ----------------$45.00
Wing Commander - Privateer ----------------------------$40.00
Street Fighter II - The baddest Brawl of them all -----$30.00
                             TOTAL --------------------$115.00

Steve Kopp
1:283/162
(319)373-9760

Please contact me before you send any money...


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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 10806
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 01/23/94  9:24p
Subj: Storm I,ii,ii + Ecstasy H               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

18 Jan 94 11:01, Diana Kirksey wrote to All:

 DK> ÿ@ORIGIN :** Deanna's StarBBS  (209) 239-0883   24Hrs **              N
 DK> ÿ@SUBJECT:Storm I,II,II + Ecstasy Hot Pic's for Trade                 N
 DK> Hi!
 DK>  I have the Adult Cd's Storm I,Storm II,Storm III and Ecstasy Hot Pic's
 DK> for Sale or Trade for Non-adult Cd's.
 DK>  ** Only Adults need reply **

How about Software Vault's "The Collection for Windows - the Instant Library
for Windows on CD-ROM" or "The Gold Collection - the Instant Software Library
on CD-ROM". 1993 files.

512-440-7670

Roger

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From: ANDY BRICK                             Number: 10807
  To: JOSE VISBAL                              Date: 01/23/94 12:31p
Subj: Re: Trade?                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry, but the deal for the trade alreadey went through. However, I do have a
copy of Ultima 6/ Wing Commander I that is up for sale or trade. If interested
name your price. Thanks for the offer.

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From: IAN SINGER                             Number: 10808
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/22/94  6:06p
Subj: 3 NEW WAYS TO PAY!                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Are you handling the check by phone from Canada?

Did you receive my messaage about the lost CD?
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From: SHARI DOMKE                            Number: 10809
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 01/23/94  1:56a
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sam Figueroa to Shari Domke on 01-20-94 at 20:40
> Shari
>     Sorry, I'm no the Sam Figueroa that you apparently know, but I
> really find it odd that someone else actually has the same name as 
> mine!
> Write me back and we can talk about this is ya don't mind, if the Sam
> that you know is able to be reached by echo mail or whatever, I would
> like to talk to him sometime!
> 
>               Thanks,
>                                   Sam Figueroa
1:2410/329
Well, thanks for the reply anyway.  Your's is the only name I've seen, so he
probably can't be reached this way, but it was worth the shot.  It is pretty
wild that you have the same name.

                                     Shari


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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 10810
  To: ROGER DAVIS                              Date: 01/22/94  4:22p
Subj: CDs to SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Then it happened......RDHave the following cds that I would like to swap. 
Am interested in adult 
RDgames.

RDMPC Wizard 2.0
RDROMaterial
RDWIN CD Professional
RDBest of the Bureau (samples)
RDWilsondisc - Readers' Guide Abstracts Select Edition
RDShakespeare - The complete works
RDPC Magazine - Select Demos
RDSing Along Classics - vol 1102
RDCD-ROM Premiere - Worlds First Totally Interactive CD rom Sampler
RDBattle Chess - Enhanced version

RDXXX Extreme


  Interested in a trade for 7th Guest?
  It's the deluxe set with video tape.
                      Mike

Mike
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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 10811
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 01/22/94  4:27p
Subj: NEC 36 drives UNTESTED                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Then it happened......MBI have about 50+ UNTESTED NEC Model 36 SCSI 
External CD-ROM readers.

 What are the specs on these drives?
                Mike

Mike
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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 10812
  To: WALT SPARLING                            Date: 01/22/94  4:32p
Subj: NEC CDROM                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Then it happened......WSI need to find a number for NEC, to get software 
drivers for am older
WSNEC CDROM.  The numbers i the manula have been disconnected.

   BBS #'s-2400 baud=508-6354705
           9600             4706

   Service center= 800-388-8888

  Hope these help!
                 Mike

Mike
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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 10813
  To: LYLE HEWITT                              Date: 01/24/94 12:17a
Subj: Canadian CD Catalogue                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          Lyle Hewitt wrote *
 *********************************
***I would be interested in receiving the ground-mail floppy version of your
***catalogue at the following address:
 *********************************

Thanks for asking.  Our latest version HRBCD11.ZIP will be shipped to
you shortly.

Regards,

Hayden Bradshaw
HRB Computer Services
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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 10814
  To: JIM KRUSZYNSKI                           Date: 01/24/94 12:18a
Subj: Canadian CD Catalogue                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          Jim Kruszynski wrote *
 *********************************
***Please send me a copy of your electronic catalog when available.
 *********************************

Thanks for asking.  Our latest version HRBCD11.ZIP will be shipped to
you shortly.

Regards,

Hayden Bradshaw
HRB Computer Services

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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 10815
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 01/24/94  1:15a
Subj: CANADIAN CD CATALOGUE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          Vince Sorensen wrote *
 *********************************
***-> I would be interested in receiving the ground-mail floppy version of
***-> your catalogue at the following address:
***
***Hi Lyle!
***
***   There's no need to wait... I have Hayden's catalogue on-line on the
***BBS here (which is, of course, a local call). Our regular catalogue
***prices have always, and continue to, beat his regular prices. We keep it
***posted here, along with several others, for comparison purposes.
***
***   Of course, you can always take our prices to him, and get him to beat
***them :)
***
***    Vince
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*** * Origin: SUPERBOARD/CD-ROM WHOLESALERS   (306)789-8682 (1:140/121)
 *********************************

Vince:

I do believe somewhat in the credo of "all's fair in love and war", but
please... I have your price listing here as well, and so far about 90%
of my prices are below what you are charging.

I'd like to think there are still some people left with ethics. I firmly
believe in them. There have been plenty of times when I could have
pulled a stunt like you did here, but I figure it only takes a person a
minute or two to see who's blowing smoke and who isn't.  I don't think I
need or want to stoop to these tactics to "win" customers.

Perhaps you do.  Give it a rest, Vince.

Hayden
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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 10816
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/23/94  9:59p
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



 Have Busty Babes Volume II (newest release in this series) available
 in trade for another adult CD; looking for Southern Beauties, American
 Girls, Amorous Asians or similar "quasi-recent" CD.  MUST state 21+...
 thanks in advance.

 )\/(ark 
... Dear
 Santa:  All I want is a copy of your list of naughty girls.
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From: JAMES PATTERSON                        Number: 10817
  To: JAMES CLEVENGER                          Date: 01/21/94 11:51a
Subj: Atari shareware CD-ROM.                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JC>Walnut Creek?  I am not familiar with that company.  Can you please give me
  >some more details about that new Atari shareware CD-ROM?  I would also like 
  >know the address, phone number, and how much the CD-ROM costs.  Thanks.


James,

   Sorry, I dumped the text file I had on that CD-ROM.  However if you
have GEnie access there is a press release in the Atari ST library with
all the info you want.  BTW, Walnut Creek makes LOTS of CD's, and is
very well known.
   Also, if you get on GEnie, you can leave Email to "GREG".  He is
selling that CD-ROM (I think it's $39).  Lots of neat stuff, including
menu screens that will come up in tru-color iffn you have a Falcon, and
point and click viewing of Kodak photo-cd pics.

       _____
        /ed

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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 10818
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/22/94  2:03p
Subj: Closeout CD-ROM Software                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   CMS SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING 
                         P.O. BOX 165 
                     SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
                         812-442-0110 
 
                      Updated 01-23-1994 
 
Its a fact.  CMS is overstocked and to make room for the 
upcomming remodeling and expansion of CMS Software we MUST 
LIQUIDATE the following inventory.  Grab any of the following 
discs for $15 each, unless otherwise noted, while supplies last. 
Buy 7 and select one FREE*.  We will hold nothing back until this 
inventory is GONE.  One of some titles and hundreds of others 
but it ALL must go.  Some discs are used and most are new but 
all are guaranteed against defects.  Dealers call now for bulk 
pricing.  You may grab as many as you like and pay only $3 
shipping**.  You may place your order on Mastercard or Visa or we 
will ship your order COD for $5.00 additional.  You may mail 
your order with a personal check or money order to the address 
at the top of this ad.  * Free CD must be $15 or less.  ** A small 
insurance fee is added to each order. 
 
!!! 650+ MEG Shareware CD only $5.95 with any purchase !!! 
 
Barney Bear Goes to School      Physical Therapy Adult ($25) 
675 MEG Windows CD-ROM          Multi-Media Bookshelf ($30) 
Barney Bear Goes to Space       Fresh Arte Clipart 
                                Audubon's Birds MM ($20) 
Software Vault Gold             Pier 3 Shareware 
FontMaster                      Toolworks MM Enyc. 1.5 ($30) 
LaserTax On CD-ROM              Consumer Guide to CD-ROMs 
Clipart Goliath                 Bibles & Religion 
Up All Night Shareware          PC-SIG Version 11 
Black Box Shareware #4          Black Box Shareware #5 
                                Career Opportunities 
2000 Pictures CD-ROM    Random House Unabridged Dictionary ($25) 
ShareWare OnLine II             So Much Shareware #2 
Software Treasure Chest         Crossword Cracker 
GameWare Collection             LookUp 9 Digit ZIP Lookup ($25) 
DataBase Made Easy              Swimwear 1993 
Super CD W/Super BBS            AB20 Amiga Archives 
Storm #2 ($20)                  Storm #3 ($20) 
Mother Earth II                 Fightsmart 
Adult Reference Library ($25)   So Much Modem Madness ($20) 
Digital Dreams #1 ($25)         Time Almanac 
Quick Art Clipart               PC Sig Library #10 
Between Heaven & Hell II        Digital Dreams #2 ($25) 
                                Danger Hot Stuff 
Klotski Polish Puzzles 
CAD Utility Library             Adult Picture Library #1 ($25) 
Paolo Galli Portfolio #1 ($20)  Paolo Galli Portfolio #2 ($20) 
------------------------------------------------------------ 
Grab the following titles for only $10.00 each while supplies 
last.  1 of some and 100's of others but all will surely go 
quickly so get you orders in today. 
 
Phoenix Phun & Games            Brain Drain Games 
Oldies But Goodies Games        Bed & Breakfast Photo Tour 
Mirror Mirror                   Reel Clips 
Futura Games                    Let's Play (Games) 
Variety Store (Games)           Taxprep 
Selectware Software             MPC Wizard 
PC Gameroom                     Middle East Diary 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 10819
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/22/94  2:03p
Subj: ShareWare OnLine #3                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    !!! NOW ACCEPTING PREORDERS !!! 
 
ShareWare OnLine 3 will soon be released!  We are now 
accepting preorders.  The preorder price is $34.95 and 
as always you get FREE shipping to your door for 
preordering.  Registered users of ShareWare OnLine will 
be receiving your special order instructions by mail soon. 
 
This new disc will contain over 600 MEGS of new software. 
Many programs come directly from the author so the dupe 
rate will be low to other CDs.  The CD will be fully BBS 
ready with full multi-line file descriptions.  A master 
directory of BBS file descriptions will be included as 
well as description index files in each directory. 
 
We have updated our retrieval software to run faster 
and install easier.  You may tag, copy, view, unzip, 
and view pictures directly from the retrieval software. 
 
You may preorder your disc by telephone or send your 
order by mail to the address listed below.  Credit cards 
and checks are not cashed until we ship. 
 
Your complete satisfaction is GUARANTEED with ShareWare 
OnLine #3. 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
Orders Only: 800-768-7929   Information: 812-442-0110 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 10820
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/22/94  2:03p
Subj: New Adult CD-ROM Catalog                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                      CMS, SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING 
                             P.O. BOX 165 
                         SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
                       ORDERS ONLY: 800-768-7929 
                       INFORMATION: 812-442-0110 
 
$5.00 STANDARD SHIPPING. 600+ MEG SHAREWARE CD $5.95 WITH ANY PURCHASE! 
 
101 SEX POSITIONS 1      $ 47.95  101 SEX POSITIONS 2         $ 47.95 
94-95 CD-X CALENDAR      $ 37.95  A.P.L. VOLUME #1            $ 37.95 
ADULT PALATE II          $ 39.95  ADULT PALATE                $ 37.95 
ADULT REFERENCE LIBRARY  $ 37.95  ADULTS ONLY XXX             $ 38.95 
AFTER DARK TRILOGY       $ 47.95  AMATEUR MODELS              $ 37.95 
AMERICAN GIRLS           $ 39.95  AMOROUS ASIAN GIRLS         $ 56.95 
ART PICKING UP GIRLS     $ 49.95  BARLOW AFFAIRS              $ 58.95 
BEST OF VIVID            $ 54.95  BETRAYAL                    $ 63.95 
BODY CELLO SAMPLER       $ 14.95  BUSTIN OUT                  $ 44.95 
BUSTY BABES VOLUME 2     $ 36.95  CALIFORNIA DAYDREAM         $ 39.95 
CAMP DOUBLE DD           $ 37.95  CAT & MOUSE                 $ 56.95 
COLLEGE GIRLS            $ 56.95  CONDO CUTIES                $ 49.95 
CREME DE LA CREME        $ 37.95  DEBBIE DOES DALLAS          $ 44.95 
DEEP THROAT              $ 44.95  DEVIL IN MISS JONES         $ 44.95 
DIGITAL DANCING          $ 56.95  DIGITAL DREAMS #2           $ 29.95 
DIGITAL DREAMS           $ 29.95  DIGITAL SEDUCTION           $ 39.95 
DIRTY TALK               $ 47.95  DONATELLI PORTFOLIO         $ 69.95 
DOORS OF PASSION         $ 53.95  DREAM MACHINE               $ 57.95 
DREAMLAND                $ 39.95  EROTICA                     $ 56.95 
EXOTIC GIRLS             $ 28.95  EXOTICA                     $ 49.95 
EXPOSE                   $ 37.95  EXTREME DELIGHTS            $ 37.95 
GIFFY GOLD               $ 34.95  GIRLS GIRLS GIRLS           $ 37.95 
GIRLS OF MARDI GRAS      $ 56.95  GIRLS OF RISQUE             $ 47.95 
GIRLS OF VIVID 1         $ 44.95  GIRLS OF VIVID 2            $ 44.95 
GIRLS STEPHEN HICKS      $ 39.95  GIRLS WITH GIRLS            $ 73.95 
GLAMOUR GIRLS 1943       $ 73.95  HEAVENLY BODIES 2           $ 73.95 
HEAVENLY BODIES 2        $ 73.95  HIDDEN OBSESSIONS           $ 59.95 
HIGH VOLUME NUDES        $ 37.95  HOUSE OF DREAMS             $ 59.95 
INFERNO-BEST OF          $ 63.95  INSATIABLE                  $ 47.95 
INTER ADULT ALMANAC      $ 89.95  INTER ADULT SAMPLER         $ 13.95 
ISLAND GIRLS 2           $ 28.95  L.A. STRIPPERS              $ 56.95 
LEGEND OF KAMA SUTRA     $ 54.95  LEGENDS OF PORN 2           $ 54.95 
LOADS OF FUN             $ 47.95  LOCAL GIRLS VOL 2           $ 28.95 
MAN ENOUGH               $ 74.95  MY FIRST TIME               $ 49.95 
MYSTIQUE OF ORIENT       $ 54.95  NEW WAVE HOOKERS 1          $ 44.95 
NEW WAVE HOOKERS 2       $ 44.95  NIGHTWATCH INTERACT         $ 49.95 
NORTHERN DELIGHTS        $ 44.95  NOVA COLLECTION 1           $ 47.95 
NOVA COLLECTION 2        $ 37.95  PARADISE CLUB INTER         $ 64.95 
PHONE SEX                $ 19.95  PHYSICAL THERAPY ADULT      $ 29.95 
PRINCESS OF PERSIA       $ 53.95  RIMFIRE PACIFIC             $ 38.95 
SECRETS                  $ 44.95  SEXIEST WOMEN ON CD         $ 37.95 
SINFULLY YOURS           $ 39.95  SOUTHERN BEAUTIES           $ 39.95 
STORM #2 ADULT           $ 24.95  STORM #3 ADULT              $ 24.95 
STORM 2/3 BUNDLE         $ 39.95  SUPER SMUTWARE              $ 28.95 
SURF'S UP!               $ 28.95  SWEET DREAMS                $ 47.95 
TOPLESS DANCER           $ 49.95  TRACI I LOVE YOU            $ 44.95 
TROPICAL GIRLS           $ 28.95  WEEKEND AT ERNIES           $ 38.95 
WICKED W/KODAK PHOTO     $ 59.95  WICKED WISPERS              $ 49.95 
WICKED                   $ 59.95  WOMEN WHO LOVE WOMEN        $ 39.95 
 
$5.00 standard shipping per order.  CMS accepts Visa, Mastercard, 
check, cash COD, or money orders.  Personal checks take 7 days to 
clear the bank.  Money order will ship same day.  Please allow 
1-2 weeks shipping time.  2 day and next day air are also available. 
 
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From: ROBIN HARDISON                         Number: 10821
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/22/94  5:02a
Subj: Turbo DUO for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi All 

I have a Turbo DUO for sale with the following:

Games:
Gates of Thunder (Super CD game)
Bonk's Adventure
Bonk's Revenge
Bomberman
Y's I & II (CD)
Legendary Axe II (hu card)
Ninja Spirit (hu card)
Fighting Street (CD - original Street Fighter)
Forgotten Worlds (Super CD)

DUO tap 5 player adapter
2 DUO pads
1 TG-16 Python 4 joystick

Box and all manuals.  Make RESONABLE offer.  Or will trade for hard drive.



ÄÄÄ¿
   ÀÄÄÄ> Robin Hardison

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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 10822
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/23/94 12:45a
Subj: The Software Tool Chest CD-ROM          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     !!! COMMING SOON FROM CMS SOFTWARE !!! 
 
We are now accepting preorders for our all new utility disc. 
"The Software Tool Chest" will be released on or about 
02-01-1994.  Look below for a sample of what this disc contains. 
If you wish to download the final description lists call the 
CMS Support BBS at 812-898-2561 anytime 24 hours.  HST 14.4 
online.  Look in file area #3 for TOOL.ZIP.  Available first call. 
 
This disc will include literally thousands of utility programs for 
just about every use you can think of.  No other collection comes 
even close this fabulous new collection.  You will find DOS and 
Windows utilities alike.  The ENTIRE LINUX operating system is 
also included on this disc.  Hundreds of programs for OS/2 are 
included.  If you have been looking for a source for networking 
software look no further.  Two full directories dedicated to 
networking.  Two directories of graphics utility programs. 
Virus protection programs are also included.  MOD music editing 
programs and music and sound players and programs.  Utilities 
for your printer and SO MUCH MORE. 
 
You ask why should I buy this disc?  This disc offers several 
special features not found anywhere else.  First and most im- 
portant this is the LARGEST collection of utilities you will 
find.  The disc is fully BBS ready with file descriptions in 
five formats so you will most likely be able to find a format 
suited for your needs.  If not just call us and we will convert 
one to your format.  Excellent custom file retrieval software is 
also included for the end users.  This software is very user 
friendly.  All menu driven.  Just type GO COLOR or GO MONO to 
start.  This software allows the user to tag, copy, view, unZIP, 
and even view graphics without installing them to your hard 
drive.  Preview contents or graphics before installing.  Program 
dates all the way up till the end of 1993.  No files are older 
than 1991. 
 
We are now accepting preorders.  Your check or credit card will 
not be charged until the day we ship.  In return for your pre- 
order you will get free shipping to your door.  Expected ship 
date: 02-01-1994.  Only $34.95 and free shipping! 
 
 CMS SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
BBS: 812-898-2561  Questions: 812-442-0110  Orders: 800-768-7929 
 
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From: RICKY PURCELL                          Number: 10823
  To: ROD WILEY                                Date: 01/23/94  1:48p
Subj: RE: GAMES                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Rod:
        I am sorry but the message I left to Mike Daum was only inside joke.  I
am an avid paintballer though and so is Mike.  It is good to know there are
other Paintmasters out there as well.  If you have any CD-ROM games for sale I
would be interested but I don't really want to sell my new Semi-auto.  I was
only razing Mike because he uses a pump.
        Happy Painting:  Your fellow Paintballster,  Ricky

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From: BOB CANNADAY                           Number: 10824
  To: JOE REINHART                             Date: 01/23/94  1:37p
Subj: Catalog?                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Count me on on one of those Catalogs!

Bob Cannaday
346A Feagan Drive
San Clemente, CA 92672

... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
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From: STEVE PESANT                           Number: 10825
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/23/94  9:42p
Subj: PAC RIM SHOW                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi there Boris

 BO>             N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E

I was looking forward to getting the above from ya at the show, Sorry that you
weren't there , would have been ice to meet some of the people I see throughout
FidoNet...ANy plans to come up North here in the future?

-=Cheers=-
        Steve.


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From: BOB BRINSFIELD                         Number: 10826
  To: JOE REINHART                             Date: 01/20/94  5:09a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Joe,

JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories
JR> CATALOG!*************

Could you please send me one too.

ACTION BBS
309A S. MORRIS AVE.
Crum Lynne, Pa. 19022
(610) 833-5633 BBS#

Thank you.


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From: JEFF CHARLESON                         Number: 10827
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/23/94 11:18a
Subj: Nec 3x and 4x CD ROM                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Needed:

Information about the 3x and 4x CD-ROM drives.  Also, information on how to 
acquire a double-speed CD-ROM, under 300ms, brand name/generic OK, warranty.

Please E-MAIL me.  Thanks..

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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 10828
  To: SHAWN HARDENBROOK                        Date: 01/23/94  2:40p
Subj: Re: MITSUMI INTERNAL  CD                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SH> WC> > $150 plus shipping, COD is $5.
SH> WC>
SH> WC>The Double speed Mitsumi is currently being sold for 197 bucks at
SH> WC>Best Buy with 16bit controller!
SH>
SH> RL> Are you playing price police are trying to make a point of some s
SH>
SH>Actually, Best Buy sells the Mitsumi 2x speed for $180 in Dallas.  I t
SH>the point is that you're asking too much for used, old technology.

Then pass the ad by and don't buy it. No need to stick your nose in every
ad that contains a price that YOU don't like.

Nuff said


 * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * Clinton sucks but he doesn't swallow.


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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 10829
  To: LAURA MUSSETTER                          Date: 01/23/94  6:09p
Subj: Hot New CDROM Title!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LM>MultiMedia Magic is now available! Complete Multimedia Creation and
LM>Authoring System. Easily incorporate Graphics, Text, Speech, Sound
LM>Effects, Music & User Interaction in simple or complex presentations.
LM>Best of all, your creations can be distributed ROYALTY FREE!

Is that DOS, Windoze, or Mac?

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Overestimation: Thinking that all your geese are swans.


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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 10830
  To: BOB ROSOL                                Date: 01/24/94  1:30a
Subj: Adobe PREMIERE 3- Mac CD                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BR>        Shrinkwrapped Deluxe CD ROM version

BR>        Only $325  (no swaps)
y

Whats on this that it costs so much????

James
 þ OLX 3.10 31-0461 þ "Suddenly I'm bowling on the starship Enterprise..."


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From: DANIEL SHERMAN                         Number: 10831
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 01/23/94  7:03a
Subj: Re: Modem madness                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TK> So Much Modem Madness has both SFFILES.BBS & FILES.BBS in each dir. 
TK> also, this may appeal to you: it AUTOMATICALLY adds itself to your 
TK> EZROM or SFROM door!  how's that for bbs ready?  all you need to do is 
TK> edit your MAIN.CLR so that callers know what letter is Modem Madness 

 I would just like to say also that this is a great CD I have it online and 
the Users love it. Also the EZROM door is one of the easiest to set up and 
maintain and I will soon be sending in My registration for it (waiting for 
income tax refund). I hope SMMM comes out with more CD's. 

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From: DANIEL SHERMAN                         Number: 10832
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 01/23/94  8:13a
Subj: Re: This and Others                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL> Which CD-Rom are we talking about?  If you are speaking of Top Drawer, 
JL> which is about to be released, it is 96.5% 1993 files and 3% 1994 files. 
JL> Since you didn't quote me, I am not sure which disc you are referring 
JL> to.  Also, Top Drawer was scanned with McAfee's Scanv109.  I'll get you 
JL> a catalog in the mail. 
JL>  
JL>                                                         Jim... 

 Could You also send a catalog to:

Daniel Sherman
5152 Irene Drive
Harrisburg, Pa. 17112

 Thank You

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From: DANIEL SHERMAN                         Number: 10833
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/23/94  8:18a
Subj: Re: NIGHT OWL 11                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>             N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E
BO> 
BO> * Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous Versions
BO> * All Zipped Files      * New Viewer     * 60% Files Released last 90 days
BO> "Night Owl 11. "  offer's over 5,000 all new files and supports for areas
BO> such as Windows, OS/2, Games, Fonts, Ham Radio, Lan, Business and more !
BO>            Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
BO>    Best Of The Best - Night Owl 11. + Cream Of The Crop II - $50.00
BO> 
BO> ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

 Hey Boris I will be calling You about this cd later in the month but could 
You possibly get Me some Literature on the Sattelite system that You have. 
Both Prices for computer only and for computer and TV applications. Would like
to possibly get it by the middle of the Year but would like some prices so I 
know how much to save up (approx.)

Daniel Sherman
5152 Irene Drive
Harrisburg, Pa. 17112

Thank You

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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 10834
  To: CHIP SLATE                               Date: 01/17/94  7:40a
Subj: Re: Oem                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Chip Slate to All <=- 
 
 CS> Can someone please tell me what the !@#$% *OEM* means!!!>.. 
 CS> Thanx,in advance.....ChIP SLATE 
 
"Original Equipment Manufacturer" 
 
Hope that helps your cause!  <GRIN> 
 
Dave Perkovich 
Damar Enterprises Software 
The CD PowerBox Guys! 
 
  
... Damar Enterprises - Home of the shareware CD-boxes! 
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From: AMY MOODY                              Number: 10835
  To: DARREN CASTLEBERRY                       Date: 01/23/94  1:29p
Subj: Re: cd's for sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> 485 page manual.  $60.00

-> Hi, can you tell me....Is this DOS or MPC????

I don't know what MPC is...but it does require Windows to run. Hope that
helps....

SEEYA!
  Amy

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From: VADE FORRESTER                         Number: 10836
  To: DOUGLAS BELL                             Date: 01/23/94  6:34a
Subj: Re: - RECORDABLE CD-ROM $3200           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Douglas Bell <=-

 >Ricoh RS-9200CD External CD-Recorder 1.2mb cache, SCSI-2

 >  Read's: CD-ROM, CD-ROM XA, CD-I Record's: CD-ROM, CD-ROM XA, CD-I, CD-DA

What's your phone number?


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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 10837
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 01/23/94  3:18p
Subj: Last Warning                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <01-19-94 12:41> Lee Noga wrote:

LN>> In a message to Bill Rogers <01-15-94 12:41> David Vangelder wrote:

LN>> DV>> was unaware that Ms. Noga beat me or that we were even in a 
LN>> DV>> contest.

LN>> ..... and I almost gave you credit for not having used my name in 
LN>> any context. You have exhausted my patience, for the life of me I 
LN>> cannot understand how one person can be so rude when they have 
LN>> been asked on more then one occasion to leave *MY* name out of 
LN>> any post they generate. I don't care what the reasons are for 
LN>> using my name, find another way to make your point without typing
LN>> "NOGA". You use it as if you have a license.

LN>> EOT.

LN>> -=*>Lee<*=-  

Ms. Noga, as usual you have mistated the facts and responded to a 
statement of mine OUT OF CONTEXT.

First, in your previous posts you have simply advised that you did
not want me to post messages regarding the lawsuit in which you are 
involved.  You have never requested "..to leave *MY* name out of
any post...".  As you know, I do not wish to bring up your name in 
any of my posts, nor have I.  

Secondly, what you failed to cature in the post you are responding 
to was:

BR>> And.... as far as the constant abuse of Lee Noga/Lion's Den and 
BR>> other people... stop wasting mine and everyone else's time with 
BR>> this nonsense! GROW UP!!  It's very clear to me and probably 
BR>> others that you have this male complex ego thing going on and 
BR>> can't take it when a woman beats you!

BR>> Time to wake up Dave, your not the only game in town...

DV>> As I said above I ONLY RESPONDED to what Ms. Noga or anyone else 
DV>> wrote to or about me.  I am certainly in your debt for your 
DV>> analysis of my ego.  I was unaware that Ms. Noga beat me or that 
DV>> we were even in a contest.  You are certainly correct about me 
DV>> not being the only game in town, and you are welcome to play 
DV>> with someone else.

I did not wish to respond to your post. But I didn't want the readers
of this echo to be mislead into thinking that I have ever initiated
this kind of childish & petty nonsense, as indicated in your post.

I was responding to Mr. Rogers.  I will be more than happy not to 
mention your name in my posts, now that you have requested it.

Have a wonderful day.
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From: GREG SCHAFFER                          Number: 10838
  To: SEAN CREIGH                              Date: 01/23/94 10:01p
Subj: Adult CD-ROM's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Yeah.  How much do you want for it?
              Greg

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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 10839
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/24/94  4:17p
Subj: Shareware Studio ]I[                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Shareware Studio ]I[ CDROMs.    Over 5000 programs. BBS Ready.

Pressed 09/93.

Priced to sell:  $20 each.

517-865-6850 Or Email me at any of the following addresses.

Fidonet:  1:239/900.0
Internet: Loyd.Craft@fourstar.mi.org
Rime: ->SPS, Loyd Craft

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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 10840
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 01/24/94  4:57p
Subj: JPEG CD's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -SR> Sorry someone gave me $33 for it today.  I will give you
 -SR> $33 for APL, shipped to me via 2nd day mail. What do you say?

That'll be fine.  Send check to me at: 710 W. Meade Dr., Nashville, Tn 37205.
Throw me your number as well...  Thanks...

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From: RICARDO E MOSQUERA, MD                 Number: 10841
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 01/16/94  1:24p
Subj: % CD-ROM Disks                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have interest in the PC-LIBRARY SIG 8 AND 9 EDITION
WHAT I HAVE TO MAKE THE DEAL

SENT THE MONEY OR SEPARATED UNTIL YOU RECEIVE THIS
MESSAGES

RICARDO E MOSQUERA
8581 NW 54TH ST.
MIAMI FLORIDA USA  
 

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From: RICARDO E MOSQUERA, MD                 Number: 10842
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/19/94  5:03p
Subj: Buy Used CD's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi everybody:

        Looking for used CD'S ready BBS for my use
interested people make offers

leave an E-Mail here
or send me CATALOG OR LIST TO

my address

RICARDO E MOSQUERA
8581 NW 54TH ST
MIAMI FL 33166  
 

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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 10843
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/22/94  1:01p
Subj: Re: JFK CDROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you have any other info on the JFK Assassination Encyclopedia...such as
price, availability, contents, etc.?

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10844
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/24/94  9:02a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
                        ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3600 CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee

                    ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee

                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
14.4 Power supply..................$10.00 ea.
external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
FedEX Shipping (drives)$10.00 for up to 2 drives,$20.00 for 3-4 drives.

                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****

As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
offering all refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit,
to be shipped upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30
days for receipt of your refurbished drive.

                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: MAJIC NAME: "CONFIG" gets all CD-ROM oriented files
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariat.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10845
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/24/94  9:02a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For 1,500+ CD-Titles & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip, descript.zip (or) MAJIC word CONFIG gets both
The Blue Parrot CD-ROM SUPPORT RBBS offers non-backboned echo config
for daily cdlist updates, news, game reviews, & more.
All config.sys cd-rom support files are available to all NEW users!

Fido: 1:157/479 - RBBS: 8:965/13 - Kesher: 18:711/176 - WWIV: 2@2659
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.|Voice: (216) 296.9831 or 296.4446 24hrs
P.O. Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240  |BBS/Fax: 216.296.2244 - 23hrs 16.8k ZYX
Internet: joe@config.wariat.org|>>>>>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<<<

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From: DEAN PEECH                             Number: 10846
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 01/24/94 12:47a
Subj: Phonebook Cd                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

what is this with the phone book CD's?
what kind of phone numbers?
I am interested in buying one.


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From: DON BRADEN                             Number: 10847
  To: CHARLES I PAYNE                          Date: 01/24/94  9:50p
Subj: Re: Medical CD's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have found the "Mayo Clinic Family Health Book" quite good. It has some
good anatomical illustrations and fairly good text.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: GARY HEDBERG                           Number: 10848
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 01/24/94  6:55a
Subj: Hitachi 3600'S Cd-rom's                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Matt,
I am looking for some low end, TRUE SCSI cdrom drives. I need 4 to be 
exact. I purchased two Phillips drives that I'm happy with and need to 
add 4 more drives to complete this external box I have the other two in. 
They need to be true SCSI and not some parallel-propriatary system. I'd 
like the drives to be comparable to the Phillips CM212 (Access Time 
400msec, Average Transfer Rate 176.4Kb/sec). Do you have anything 
comparable in budget drives?


Gary Hedberg
P.O Box 1130
Richland, WA 99352-1130
(509) 946-2301 voice
(509) 946-2236 fax (after voice)
(509) 943-0211 BBS
1:3407/1
gary.hedberg@onestop.sccsi.com
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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 10849
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 01/24/94  9:09p
Subj: Bbv2 For Trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Scott,
    If ya can trade me the BB cd then I'll trade ya but otherwise I will
have to think it over, but I will keep your name handy!
                             Sam Figueroa
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From: JIM WILKINSON                          Number: 10850
  To: JESSE COLLINS                            Date: 01/25/94  1:17a
Subj: Re: Night Owl                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


  Watch out for the Virus!


     -JW-

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From: TOM CAUSLEY                            Number: 10851
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/24/94  2:04p
Subj: CD-ROM READERS FOR SALE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@07@
@0F@                 @0E@·Ä· ÖÄ· ·Ä·     ·Ä· ·Ä· ·   ·Ä·
@0E@                 ºÄ  º º ºÒ½     ÓÄ· ºÄº º   ºÄ
@0E@                 ½   ÓĽ ½ÓÄ     ½Ä½ ½ Ó ½Ä½ ½Ä½
@0E@                 @0B@HITACHI EXTERNAL CD-ROM READERS

@0B@       @0C@We have upgraded our CD-ROM system to make available
@0C@       4 HITACHI EXTERNAL CD-ROM READERS, MODEL CDR-1503S
@0C@       for sale. Theses units are in EXCELLENT CONDITION,
@0C@       and I will WARRENTY them for a period of 30 days.
@0C@       I will SEPERATE THE GROUP for the following prices:

@0C@       @0A@1503S units.............................$125.00ea
@0A@       Cables...................................$12.00ea

@0A@      @0C@I will ship to you VIA UPS (@0B@your cost@0C@) @0D@Prepaid
@0D@      @0C@If interested, Please call me....

@0C@      Tom Causley
@0C@      @0E@THE LIGHTHOUSE BBS
@0E@      @0C@Voice (517)686-2422
@0C@      Data  (517)686-2013


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From: ED ANDERSON                            Number: 10852
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/24/94 11:32p
Subj: cd                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have conan the cimmerian and the wizard 6-pak i will trade both for busty
babes or camp double dd
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10853
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/23/94  9:53p
Subj: 3 NEW WAYS TO PAY!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

COMING SOON TO STARVECTOR SOFTWARE:  3 BRAND NEW WAYS TO PAY!
-------------------------------------------------------------

For the added convenience of our CD-ROM customers, Starvector will soon be
adding three new payment methods.  In addition to accepting Visa, Discover,
Mastercard, American Express, COD, wire transfer, personal checks, and
money orders, we will offer the following beginning around Feb. 1st. Choose
the one that works best for you................

1.  PhoneCheck - With this new and exciting payment option, you may use
    your personal or business checking account just like a credit card.
    Simply provide us with your name as it appears on your check, the
    checking account number, and the check number you would like to use.
    It's that simple!  We can then process your order over the phone, by
    fax, or through our BBS online order door, and your checking account
    will be debited AUTOMATICALLY 24 hours after the order has shipped.
    This option is especially nice for those who don't have credit cards,
    and/or have been ordering by COD.  Save those $5 and $6 COD fees and
    eliminate the hassle of cash/money order COD's!  Plus, the service
    carries NO additional surcharge or fee for orders over $50, and only
    a $1.50 fee for orders under $50.  Even if you have a credit card,
    you may want to try this method on occasion to minimize your monthly
    VISA/MASTERCARD interest charges.

2.  Diner's Club - For those who prefer to pay with their Diner's Club
    credit card.

3.  Carte Blanche - For those who prefer to pay with their Carte Blanche
    credit card.

In addition to these new services, Starvector is in the process of
establishing a relationship with Federal Express to begin using 2-Day
Economy service as our default shipping method.  Shipping charges will be
only slightly higher than UPS ground, with a dramatic decrease in delivery
time to 85% of the U.S.  Our growing base of international customers will
also benefit from this new economy service.

We're constantly looking for ways to improve our service, pricing, and
selection.  We look forward to serving you!

Mike Shannon
Starvector Software


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10854
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/23/94  9:53p
Subj: CD-ROM PACKAGE SPECIALS                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

      __________________________________________________________________
     |                                                                  |
     |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #5: SHAREWARE CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS   |
     |__________________________________________________________________|


   1. CD Powerbox 1        2. Pier 2              3. MVP Game Jamboree
      CD Powerbox 2           Pier 3                 House of Games
      Pier 3                  Monster Media 93       Gameware Collection
      ------                  ----------------       -------------------
      $49                     $59                    $45


   4. Pier 2               5. CD Powerbox 2       6. Software Vault Gold
      Pier 3                  CD Winbox 1.01         Software Vault Games
      CD Powerbox 2           CD OS/2Box             Software Vault Windows
      -------------           ----------             ----------------------
      $59                     $49                    $49


   7. Tech Arsenal         8. CD Powerbox 2       9. OS/2Box
      Technotools             Pier 3                 Hobbes OS/2 10/93
      -----------             ------                 -----------------
      $29                     $44                    $34


  10. Windows Collection  11. Windows Companion  12. OS/2Box
      Windows Companion       OS/2 Companion         Hobbes OS/2 10/93
      Windows 1993            Dr. Shareware          OS/2 Companion
      ------------            -------------          ------------------
      $59                     $49                    $49

         BONUS:  Get CD Winbox for only $12 with any package deal!

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 400+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * ...Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball...

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 10855
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/23/94  9:53p
Subj: PIER 3: $24                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |        Title:  PIER 3         |  |      $24.00     |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

     Since the release of Pier 1 and 2, there has been a growing
     consensus in the CD-ROM industry that Pier CD's simply have no
     equal when it comes to recent files, accurate BBS listings, and
     great user interfaces.  To put it simply folks, if you are looking
     for the absolute BEST shareware CD for your personal or BBS use,
     Pier 3 is the CD you need.  You will not find a better shareware
     CD for overall quality at ANY PRICE!

     * 628mb total
     * Triple-scanned for viruses.
     * Separate <ASP> directory.
     * 100% files dated 1993 S.D.C. (Smart Date Checking utilized)
     * Completely re-written Graphic User Interface for EZ file management,
       which is 300% faster than previous versions!
     * GAP, PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat!, Remote Access FILES.BBS Support.
     * Less than 1% duplication compared to The Pier Shareware 1 & 2.
     * Over 70% of the files dated AFTER 6/93!

                        - DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE -

     File stats for Pier 3:

     92  File   %    Apx 'K'    %        93  File   %    Apx 'K'    %
     ==  ==== =====  ======== =====      ==  ==== =====  ======== =====

      1     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       1     5  0.1%     1,708  0.3%
      2     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       2     6  0.1%     1,066  0.2%
      3     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       3    47  1.0%     5,508  0.9%
      4     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       4   501 11.0%    70,354 11.2%
      5     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       5   693 15.2%    94,210 15.0%
      6     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       6 1,244 27.4%   164,183 26.1%
      7     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       7 1,054 23.2%   156,138 24.8%
      8     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       8   572 12.6%    79,892 12.7%
      9     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       9   421  9.3%    55,188  8.8%
     10     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      10     0  0.0%         0  0.0%
     11     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      11     0  0.0%         0  0.0%
     12     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      12     0  0.0%         0  0.0%
         ---- -----  -------- -----          ---- -----  -------- -----
            0  0.0%         0  0.0%         4,543 99.9%   628,247 99.8%
         ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== =====

That's right - 72% dated newer than 6/93, and 98.4% dated newer than 4/93!
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    2-CD PACKAGE DEAL:  Buy Pier 3, and get Pier 2 for only $15 more!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

                 >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<
                 >>>     DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE!     <<<

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 ORDERS...............509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 FAX/INFO/ORDERS......509-457-2966..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 400+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * Tagline thievery . . . On the next Oprah!

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From: ANGELLO HUONG                          Number: 10856
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 01/24/94  1:16a
Subj: Cd Trade?                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN>Storm 2 for Seedy Rom Seventh Heaven will be ok.  If it is ok with you

 Sounds fine to me. All it's been doing is collecting dust for the last
 month.  I'll send it out to you Monday (since today is Saturday) and
 you can send your to me at:  Angello Huong
                              P.O. Box 91713
                              Durham, NC 27708

                              
 * Origin: Durham,NC [Psychotronic BBS] 919-286-4542 (1:3641/1)
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From: AL AGEE                                Number: 10857
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/23/94  6:47p
Subj: Custom cds                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I'll put 640mb of your data on an ISO 9660 standard CD for $49. If you don't
have a tape drive, I will restore from 1.44mb floppies for $0.25 each
additional.

Advantages include:
- Speed       - My 10ms HD is only four times faster than CD. - Cost        -
CD costs $49, tape $100, 1.4mb floppy $200. - Security    - It can't be
changed. No virus threat. - Convenience - It's like adding another hard drive.

  o Make your own shareware disk.
  o Organize those huge graphics files.
  o Put your BBS on CD instead of buying another hard drive.
  o Distribute your data to several sites.
  o Back up your entire LAN or BBS.

Send QIC-80 or QIC-40 DC2120 tapes and cashiers check to: Allen Agee, 52 Sleepy
Hollow Rd, Andover NJ 07821. If you have questions, call me voice at
(201)786-7716 evenings.
===
 * The PC GFX Exchange * San Francisco, CA * (1:125/217)


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From: DOUG CLARK                             Number: 10858
  To: JEREMY ROLLINGS                          Date: 01/24/94 11:34p
Subj: The Animals                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

n
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From: BEN HSIEH                              Number: 10859
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/23/94 12:57p
Subj: CD SHAREWARE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I HAVE THE FOLLOWING CD ROM FOR SALE
    DR. GAMES FOR WINDOWS
    DR. GAMES FOR DOS
    DR. WINDOWS GENUINE
    DR. SHAREWARE GOLD
    DR. GAMES VOL I
    DR. MUSIC VOL I
    DR. WINDOWS VOL I
    DR. SHAREWARE VOL I
    ALL WITH USER INTERFACE MANU
    GAME RUNS ON CD NOT YOUR HDD

EACH SALE FOR 19.50
LEAVE MSG OR CALL-206-883-2282


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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 10860
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/24/94 10:02a
Subj: cd trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have ANIMATION FANTASIES which I'd like to trade for another adult cd or
non-adult if it 's something I need.  Let me know if interested.

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 10861
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 01/24/94  3:58p
Subj: Re: Bbv2 For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SR>Ok, BB 1 v3 for SEedy rom v6.  Done, send me your address.  We each ship via
SR>2nd day mail.

Scott,I have Seedy Rom Seventh Heaven, not v6.  If it is still ok with
you, my address is:

Randy Neuner
196 Hughes St
Ft Huachuca, AZ 85613

Send your address again also if you want to trade.

Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 10862
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/24/94  4:42p
Subj: Giffy Gold for a sharewar               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Want to trade Giffy Gold for a recent (1993) shareware disc that is bbs
ready.  Giffy Gold is an adult disc.

Randy


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From: AMY MOODY                              Number: 10863
  To: JERRY ZELLER                             Date: 01/24/94  8:19a
Subj: On their way....                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Amy - received them last night.  Thanks.  Jerry

Jerry,
  Glad they arrived.  Have you sent the check yet?
      Amy

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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 10864
  To: CD PUBLISHERS                            Date: 01/23/94 11:50p
Subj: DESCRIPT.ION                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Just a note to all CD-ROM Publishers.
I would like it if when you produce CD-ROM's you would include a 4DOS/NDOS
style DESCRIPT.ION in each directory. That way those of use that use 4DOS
and NDOS can see the file descriptions just by typing the DIR command.
I realise that this would require a bit of extra work to translate the 
FILES.BBS into DESCRIPT.ION, but I figured if enough people expressed 
an interest you might consider it. It wouldn't even be that hard for you
to write a utility to do it for you.

 
 

... Now returning to our regularly scheduled Yak hurling.
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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 10865
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/24/94 12:14p
Subj: Adult CD-ROMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                             Digital Broadcast Video
                              3318 South 7th Street
                                Abilene, TX 79605

       VOICE: (915)673-1911  FAX: (915)673-8173  BBS: (915)673-8181

   ****************** Adult CD-ROM Titles ****************************
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Respond ASAP to purchase X rated CD's before they are all gone.  These are
maybe some of the last X rated CD-ROMS available and will not be reproduced.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wicked Kodak Photo CD        64.95    Storm III                     38.95
Digital Dancing CD-ROM       48.00    Dirty Talk 1 CD-ROM           58.95
Seymore Butts Interactive    54.95    RIMFIRE PACIFIC               48.95
Night Trips                  54.95    Animated Fantasies (I)        48.95
House of Dreams              54.95    Animated Fantasies (II)       48.95
Legends of Porn II           42.00    Tropical Girls                32.95
New Wave Hookers             39.95    Visual Fantasies              28.95
Extreme Delight              32.50    Nightwatch Interactive        58.95
Manpower                     32.50    Things Change 1st Time        54.95
Deep Throat                  64.95    All Beauties                  32.50
Mystic of Orient             38.95    Southern Beauties             38.95
After Dark Trilogy           72.00    T&A 2 the Maxx                18.95
Paradise Club                64.95    Porkware II                   51.00
Super Smutware               29.95    Doors of Passion              51.00
LA Strippers                 45.00    PGG I                         36.95
Sinfully Yours CDR!          32.50    Digital Seduction CDR!        32.50
Private Pictures I           44.00    California Daydreamer CDR!    32.50
Busty Babes Vol. 2           38.95    Lovely Ladies II              51.00
Betrayal QTIME (MAC)         56.00    FAO VOL 1                     27.50
Cat & Mouse CDR              56.00    FAO VOL 2                     27.50
Wicked QTIME Movie CDR       56.00    FAO VOL 3                     27.50
Scissors Stones              61.00    Physical Therapy              27.50
Northern Delights CDR!       32.00    Extreme Delight - Dirty Talk  48.95
Volcano CD-ROM               68.50    1994-95 SOFT Calendar         27.50
1994-95 HARD Calendar        27.50    Moving Fantasies              41.00
Racquel Released CDR!        38.95    Storm II                      32.00
Flame CDR                    32.50    Smutware                      27.50
Swimware 1993                28.95    FAO Gold I Disk CD-ROM        41.00
Asian Ladies                 44.50    Bustin' Out                   42.00
Giffy Gold                   43.50    Tranz                         34.00
Adult REFER Library          32.00    College Girls                 42.00
101 SEX POSITIONS PT 1       42.50    CONDO CUTIES                  44.50
101 SEX POSITIONS PT 2       42.50    Digital Dreams                27.00
KAMA SUTRA                   41.00    KING DONG                     52.00
Best of Vivid                42.50    Phone Sex                     18.95
Girls of Vivid Vol 1         36.00    Girls of Mardi Gras           44.50
Girls of Vivid Vol 2         36.00    Princess of Persia            44.50
Secrets                      46.00    Cyborgasm                     22.50
Hidden Obsessions (Inter)    54.50    Amateur Models                22.50
Busty Babes Vol 1            42.00    Hot Pics 3                    22.50
Devil in Mrs. Jones (Movie)  42.00    Hot Pics 4                    22.50
A.P.L. Volume 1              22.50    Dream Girl                    41.00
Wicked Whispers              41.00    Sexiest Women on CD           28.95
Women Who Love Men           32.00    Digital Dreams II             31.00
Girls, Girls, Girls          32.00    Adult Movie Almanac (Inter)   82.00*
Weekend at Ernies            31.00    Dream Machine (NEW) (Inter)   54.95
Camp Double Do               31.00    Sorority House (NEW)          54.95
Creme De La Creme            31.00    Bangkok II                    48.95
Expose                       31.00    Penthouse Interactive         48.95
Amorous Asian Girls          41.00    Assets                        30.00
Sweet Dreams                 32.50    Dividends                     30.00
Debbie Does Dallas           42.00    Commodities                   30.00
Girls of Risque              26.95
 
You must be 18 years of age or older to order any of the above titles.
Terms are as follows, we accept VISA, Mastercard, Money Order, and COD.
Add $3.00 Shipping per item, add addition $6.00 for COD Charges.
Phone Lines Open 7-days a week 9am - 9pm CST.   If residing in Texas be
sure to include 8.25% sales tax.   Make all checks and money orders
payable to Digital Broadcast Video.
 
P.S. We will also give you a trade in discount on used Adult CD-ROMS, or
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From: RICKY PURCELL                          Number: 10866
  To: ROD WILEY                                Date: 01/23/94  1:48p
Subj: GAMES                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Rod:
        I am sorry but the message I left to Mike Daum was only inside joke.  I
am an avid paintballer though and so is Mike.  It is good to know there are
other Paintmasters out there as well.  If you have any CD-ROM games for sale I
would be interested but I don't really want to sell my new Semi-auto.  I was
only razing Mike because he uses a pump.
        Happy Painting:  Your fellow Paintballster,  Ricky

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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 10867
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/23/94 12:45a
Subj: THE SOFTWARE TOOL CHEST CD-ROM          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     !!! COMMING SOON FROM CMS SOFTWARE !!! 
 
We are now accepting preorders for our all new utility disc. 
"The Software Tool Chest" will be released on or about 
02-01-1994.  Look below for a sample of what this disc contains. 
If you wish to download the final description lists call the 
CMS Support BBS at 812-898-2561 anytime 24 hours.  HST 14.4 
online.  Look in file area #3 for TOOL.ZIP.  Available first call. 
 
This disc will include literally thousands of utility programs for 
just about every use you can think of.  No other collection comes 
even close this fabulous new collection.  You will find DOS and 
Windows utilities alike.  The ENTIRE LINUX operating system is 
also included on this disc.  Hundreds of programs for OS/2 are 
included.  If you have been looking for a source for networking 
software look no further.  Two full directories dedicated to 
networking.  Two directories of graphics utility programs. 
Virus protection programs are also included.  MOD music editing 
programs and music and sound players and programs.  Utilities 
for your printer and SO MUCH MORE. 
 
You ask why should I buy this disc?  This disc offers several 
special features not found anywhere else.  First and most im- 
portant this is the LARGEST collection of utilities you will 
find.  The disc is fully BBS ready with file descriptions in 
five formats so you will most likely be able to find a format 
suited for your needs.  If not just call us and we will convert 
one to your format.  Excellent custom file retrieval software is 
also included for the end users.  This software is very user 
friendly.  All menu driven.  Just type GO COLOR or GO MONO to 
start.  This software allows the user to tag, copy, view, unZIP, 
and even view graphics without installing them to your hard 
drive.  Preview contents or graphics before installing.  Program 
dates all the way up till the end of 1993.  No files are older 
than 1991. 
 
We are now accepting preorders.  Your check or credit card will 
not be charged until the day we ship.  In return for your pre- 
order you will get free shipping to your door.  Expected ship 
date: 02-01-1994.  Only $34.95 and free shipping! 
 
 CMS SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
BBS: 812-898-2561  Questions: 812-442-0110  Orders: 800-768-7929 
 
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From: BURRELL LEATHERWOOD                    Number: 10868
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/22/94  3:31p
Subj: A NEW SUPPLY                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We just received a shipment of 'World of Xeen' CDs.  The package contains 2 CDs
(Clouds of Xeen & Darkside of Xeen), manual, and full color maps.

If you enjoy Might & Magic, then this 2 CD set is a must.

Price $69.95 + $9.50 S&H

Individually, these games go for $50.00plus.

Send check or money order to Midwest Midi & Associates
                             410 South 7th St.
                             Yukon, Oklahoma  73099.
                             (405) 354-2122

Burrell Leatherwood


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From: DARREN CASTLEBERRY                     Number: 10869
  To: AMY MOODY                                Date: 01/22/94  1:56p
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Amy Moody to All <=-

 AM> Hello everyone,

 AM> I have the following CD's that I would like to sell.

 AM> 1.  The Software Toolworks CD Deluxe Pack (3 Disks)
 AM> Includes:
 AM> 21 Volume Multimedia Encyclopedia
 AM> The San Diego Zoo Presents...The Animals
 AM> U.S. Atlas
 AM> World Atlas
 AM> Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing
 AM> ChessMaster 3000
 AM> Comes with original 485 page manual.  $60.00

 Hi, can you tell me....Is this DOS or MPC????

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From: DARREN CASTLEBERRY                     Number: 10870
  To: ROGER DAVIS                              Date: 01/22/94 11:33p
Subj: CDS TO SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Roger Davis to All <=-

 RD> XXX Extreme

Roger,
  How much are you asking for the above?
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From: DON ROBINSON                           Number: 10871
  To: DICK WALSH                               Date: 01/18/94  9:13p
Subj: ADVERTISING                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

i agree.

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From: KEITH LOONEY                           Number: 10872
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 01/24/94  6:44p
Subj: check                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ken, just checking to see if you received the check for busty babes
yet?

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From: BRIAN DODDS                            Number: 10873
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 01/24/94  3:15p
Subj: We don't Bite!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Matt Bedtelyon to All dated 01-12-94 ***
>        ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͸
>        ³      CD-ROM's by MEG*A*BITE       ³
>        ³ Specializing in Pre-Owned Drive's ³
>        ³        for your BBS world!        ³
>        ³   PANASONIC, TEXEL and PIONEER!   ³
>        ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ;

Hmm, would you have any used Pioneer 6cd changers? single spin is fine..

                                  Bri..

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From: JOHN COOK                              Number: 10874
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/24/94  3:34p
Subj: CD-ROM Catalog\Sales                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

THE EXCHANGE TelCom
3123 Louise Street
Tallahassee, FL
32304-2727

Massive selection of CD-ROMs. Commercial, PD, and Adult.

To request a catalog or place an order:  1-800-832-0722
To download the catalog:                 (904)-575-7900  Node 1
                                                  -7564  Node 2
                                                  -6965  Node 3
                                                  -6939  Node 4
                                                  -6872  Node 5
To place an order or request a catalog            -6577  FAX
VISA and MASTERCHARGE accepted

DOUG FERRELL--OWNER and SYSOP



... "Bozo the Clown for President!"     "That's who we got!"
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From: LOUIS DIGGS                            Number: 10875
  To: BRIAN KELLER                             Date: 01/25/94 12:13a
Subj: GAMES FOR SALE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Brian, I am quite interested in the two games. Can you tell me if they are
compatable with my Macintosh?
Thanks for your reply. 
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From: LOUIS DIGGS                            Number: 10876
  To: WESLEY SCHARFF                           Date: 01/25/94 12:16a
Subj: cd-rom to trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested in possibly purchasing the Indiana Jones CD, but can you tell
me if it compatable with my Macintosh? What are you asking for it?
Thanks for your reply. 
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From: LOUIS DIGGS                            Number: 10877
  To: BRYANT PARK                              Date: 01/25/94 12:24a
Subj: King's Quest Vi Brand New               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bryant, can you tell me if the game can be run on a Macintosh?
Thanks for your reply. 
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From: GEORGE BERZ                            Number: 10878
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/24/94  7:12a
Subj: pioneer 6 disk wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Where is the best deal on a Pioneer 6 disk cd-changer for computer.. and
will they work on the DTC-SCSI card?

George Berz
Sysop, Fresno Public Access BBS
(209)277-3008 17 Lines all Zoom 24k V.FC
FidoNET 1:205/88
Internet george.berz@f88.n205.z1.fidonet.org


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From: FERNANDO ROBLES                        Number: 10879
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 01/23/94  8:30p
Subj: Bodacious Beauties-New Release          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What's up?

I've seen a lot of talk about this CD, but I haven't seen a description of it
yet.  How many images, x,xx or xxx,
resolution, and how to order it.

Thanx

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From: JOSE VISBAL                            Number: 10880
  To: BRIAN KELLER                             Date: 01/24/94  6:53a
Subj: Re: GAMES FOR SALE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Brian Keller to All! <=-

 BK> Wing commander 2 with operations 1,2 and speach pack
 BK> both on CD-ROM and have all documentation.

Will you take $20.00 for it if not let me know how much you want
for it and the condition of the cd-rom...and do you have any doc's..?




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From: AARON HUGHES @ 910/114                 Number: 10881
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/24/94 10:51a
Subj: For Sale!                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: ALLEN DIETZ                            Number: 10882
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/25/94  6:49a
Subj: Used CD-ROMs for Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have ONE copy of each the following lightly *used* CD-ROM discs
for sale.  All discs are in excellent condition.  Call me at (512)
444-9822 and leave a message if you're interested.  Add $3.00 per
order for shipping in the U.S.

Garbo MSDOS/MAC Shareware (Walnut Creek)....................$10.00
Mega CDROM2 (Shareware).....................................$10.00
Microsoft Works for Windows.................................$20.00
Lotus 1-2-3 with Multimedia SmartHelp (Release 1.1).........$25.00
Precision Mapping (DOS-based street level maps of entire....$60.00
  U.S. Includes 93/94 American Business Phone Book.)
ProPhone 1993 Business + One Phone Book.....................$20.00
Reaching the Stars and Beyond: Images of NASA (375 SVGA.....$20.00
  BMP, GIF, and PCX space images)
Shakespeare (Complete works, Creative Multimedia Corp.).....$10.00
Shareware Online #1.........................................$10.00
Simtel20 Shareware/May, 1993 (Walnut Creek).................$10.00
Wildcat Gold, Vol. 4, No. 2 (Shareware).....................$10.00

Allen Dietz
(512) 444-9822


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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 10883
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 01/25/94  4:25p
Subj: CDs to SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

23 Jan 94 08:57, SAM FIGUEROA wrote to ROGER DAVIS:


 RD>> Have the following cds that I would like to swap. Am interested in adult
 RD>> and games.

 RD>> MPC Wizard 2.0
 RD>> ROMaterial
 RD>> WIN CD Professional
 RD>> Best of the Bureau (samples)
 RD>> Wilsondisc - Readers' Guide Abstracts Select Edition
 RD>> Shakespeare - The complete works
 RD>> PC Magazine - Select Demos
 RD>> Sing Along Classics - vol 1102
 RD>> CD-ROM Premiere - Worlds First Totally Interactive CD rom Sampler
 RD>> Battle Chess - Enhanced version

 RD>> XXX Extreme


 RD>> Roger

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 SF> Can you give me some more info on the CD-ROM Premiere disc and what is
 SF> mostly contained on XXX Extreme and do I need a fast cdrom for Battle
 SF> Chess?
 SF>                 Sam Figueroa

Not sure what more info you want. It is a SAMPLER of several interactive
programs. The XXX Extreme contains mostly GIFs withe directorys of DL and FLI
and others. The name ought to tell you something. Battle Chess will run on a
single speed mpc complient drive.

Roger

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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 10884
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 01/25/94  4:29p
Subj: CDs to SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

22 Jan 94 07:40, Randy Neuner wrote to Roger Davis:


 RD>> Battle Chess - Enhanced version

 RN> Is Battle Chess a Windows or DOS cd disc.  If for DOS only I may have
 RN> something to trade.

 RN> Randy

DOS.....whatcha got?



Roger

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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 10885
  To: DARREN CASTLEBERRY                       Date: 01/25/94  4:30p
Subj: CDs to SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

22 Jan 94 23:33, Darren Castleberry wrote to Roger Davis:


 -=>> Quoting Roger Davis to All <=-

 RD>> XXX Extreme

 DC> Roger,
 DC>   How much are you asking for the above?
 DC> ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

Swap for another adult disc only.

Roger

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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 10886
  To: MIKE GERVASI                             Date: 01/25/94  4:31p
Subj: CDs to SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

22 Jan 94 16:22, Mike Gervasi wrote to Roger Davis:

 MG> Then it happened......RDHave the following cds that I would like to swap.
 MG> Am interested in adult
 MG> RDgames.

 MG> RDMPC Wizard 2.0
 MG> RDROMaterial
 MG> RDWIN CD Professional
 MG> RDBest of the Bureau (samples)
 MG> RDWilsondisc - Readers' Guide Abstracts Select Edition
 MG> RDShakespeare - The complete works
 MG> RDPC Magazine - Select Demos
 MG> RDSing Along Classics - vol 1102
 MG> RDCD-ROM Premiere - Worlds First Totally Interactive CD rom Sampler
 MG> RDBattle Chess - Enhanced version

 MG> RDXXX Extreme


 MG>   Interested in a trade for 7th Guest?
 MG>   It's the deluxe set with video tape.
 MG>                       Mike

What kind of trade?

Roger

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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 10887
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/25/94  4:32p
Subj: Software Vault                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The Collection for Windows- Instant Library for Windows on CD-ROM

The Gold Collection - Instant Software Library on CD-ROM (unopened)

The Games Collection - Instant Games Library on CD-ROM (unopened)

Want to swap these for adult cds or games cds.

Roger

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From: JAMES PARMER                           Number: 10888
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/23/94  7:51p
Subj: Price List                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 F                           CD-ROM Price List       updated 01/23/94
        * LTL Products * 1902 Bartley Road * LaGrange, Ga 30240 * 
                           Voice (706)884-2352

 9000 Sounds                    20  MacMillian Dict. Children OEM    18
 Airbrush Profolio              31  Mayo Clinic (OEM)                21
 American Vista Atlas           26  Mega Media #1                    18 
 Am. Bus. Phone Dir. W/zip      25  Mega Media #2                    18
 America's Premier Shareware    14  Microsoft Bookshelf 93 MPC OEM   38 
 Amsoft (ham radio sh'ware)     25  Mixed Up Mother Goose (OEM)      17
 Animals-zoo (MPC) (OEM)        19  Monster Media 93 #2              23
 Art Appeal- Business           23  Multimedia Animals Ency. MPC     24
 Art Appeal-Educ & Leisure      23  Nature Graphics                  17
 Art Appeal-Gov & Industry      23  Night OWL 11                     27
 Arthurs Teacher Trouble-MPC    23  Night Owl Games                  19
 A.S.P. (Sh'ware prof. assoc.)  19  Night Owl Graphics               24
 Bibles & Religion              12  OS/2 Box                         20  
 Cd Powerbox #2                 18  Our Solar System                 12
 Classic Cars                   23  P.C. Sig 13                      17
 Computer Reference Library     12  Pier 3                           26
 ColorMagic PC/MAC              24  Places to Play                   27
 Color Magic OEM                21  Precision Mapping                61
 Cookbook U.S.A. Jr.            18  Profone 93 (7 disc set)          76
 Dagger of Amon (OEM)           23  Publish It 2.0                   23
 Dare, Bluff or Die             25  Publisher's Dream Disk           26
 Dictionaries & Languages       12  Publisher's Paradise             20
 Dinosaur Adventure OEM         19  Publisher's Paradise Pro         32 
 Dr. Games  #2                  15  Publisher's Backgrounds          30
 Dr. Music  #2                  15  Publisher's Platinum             17
 Dr. Windows #2                 15  Resource Library-Audio           14
 Eco-Quest  (OEM)               23  Resource Library-Graphics        14
 Ency. of Sound                 12  Resource Library-Multimedia      14
 Fantazia Fonts                 24  Sci-Fi Games & Trivia            21
 Fingers for Windows OEM        23  Seventh Quest OEM                34
 Fingers for Windows            36  Shareware 93 vol-2               20 
 Flowering Plants               23  Shareware  Explorer (4 disc)     38 
 Games 93                       24  Shareware Overload Trio          20
 Games Platinum                 18  Shareware Studio #3              15
 Gardening                      13  So Much  Shareware 93            23
 Grolier's Ency.  ver6 MPC OEM  38  Software Jukebox                 20
 Hacker Chronicles              27  Software Vault 3 (gold)          18
 Ham Radio 3.0                  12  Space Adventure OEM              19
 Home & Office Legal Guide      12  Space  Shuttle OEM               22
 House  of Games #2             16  Straight From Heaven             18
 Icons/Wallpaper & More         25  Tech Arsenel                     20
 Kodak Photo CD                 16  Too  Many Typefonts              12
 Kodak Photo CD w/Processing    29  Unix                             22
 Lan Master                     21  U.S. History OEM                 25
 Landscapes                     23  U.S. / World Atlas OEM           18
 Language Discovery             22  Window Master                    19
 Languages of the World OEM     21  Windoware                        13
 Learning Heaven                18  Win Platinum                     17
 Learning Lotus 1-2-3           21  Windows 93                       21
 Learning Windows 3.1           21  World Atlas 4.0 OEM              18
 Ledgend of Kyrandia (OEM)      23  
                                    
 Caddies 4.75 Qty. discounts available
 We accept cashier, company, personal checks, money orders
 Shipping $4 up to 5 CD's, .50 each additional - COD add $5
 Cannot accept credit cards at this time
 Allow 7 days for checks to clear. Prices are U.S. funds 
 Request catalog with complete description
 Adult titles available - Send a copy of photo I. D. along with request
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 10889
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/25/94  7:17p
Subj: All New "Software Tool Chest" CD-ROM    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     !!! COMMING SOON FROM CMS SOFTWARE !!! 
 
We are now accepting preorders for our all new utility disc. 
"The Software Tool Chest" will be released on or about 
02-01-1994.  Look below for a sample of what this disc contains. 
If you wish to download the final description lists call the 
CMS Support BBS at 812-898-2561 anytime 24 hours.  HST 14.4 
online.  Look in file area #3 for TOOL.ZIP.  Available first call. 
 
This disc will include literally thousands of utility programs for 
just about every use you can think of.  No other collection comes 
even close this fabulous new collection.  You will find DOS and 
Windows utilities alike.  The ENTIRE LINUX operating system is 
also included on this disc.  Hundreds of programs for OS/2 are 
included.  If you have been looking for a source for networking 
software look no further.  Two full directories dedicated to 
networking.  Two directories of graphics utility programs. 
Virus protection programs are also included.  MOD music editing 
programs and music and sound players and programs.  Utilities 
for your printer and hundreds of communications and BBS utilities 
plus SO MUCH MORE. 
 
You ask why should I buy this disc?  This disc offers several 
special features not found anywhere else.  First and most im- 
portant this is the LARGEST collection of utilities you will 
find.  The disc is fully BBS ready with file descriptions in 
five formats so you will most likely be able to find a format 
suited for your needs.  If not just call us and we will convert 
one to your format.  Excellent custom file retrieval software is 
also included for the end users.  This software is very user 
friendly.  All menu driven.  Just type GO COLOR or GO MONO to 
start.  This software allows the user to tag, copy, view, unZIP, 
and even view graphics without installing them to your hard 
drive.  Preview contents or graphics before installing.  Program 
dates all the way up till the end of 1993.  No files are older 
than 1991. 
 
We are now accepting preorders.  Your check or credit card will 
not be charged until the day we ship.  In return for your pre- 
order you will get free shipping to your door.  Expected ship 
date: 02-01-1994.  Only $34.95 and free shipping! 
 
 CMS SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
BBS: 812-898-2561  Questions: 812-442-0110  Orders: 800-768-7929 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 10890
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/25/94  7:17p
Subj: ShareWare OnLine #3 Preorders           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    !!! NOW ACCEPTING PREORDERS !!! 
 
ShareWare OnLine 3 will soon be released!  We are now 
accepting preorders.  The preorder price is $34.95 and 
as always you get FREE shipping to your door for 
preordering.  Registered users of ShareWare OnLine will 
be receiving your special order instructions by mail soon. 
 
This new disc will contain over 600 MEGS of new software. 
Many programs come directly from the author so the dupe 
rate will be low to other CDs.  The CD will be fully BBS 
ready with full multi-line file descriptions.  A master 
directory of BBS file descriptions will be included as 
well as description index files in each directory. 
 
We have updated our retrieval software to run faster 
and install easier.  You may tag, copy, view, unzip, 
and view pictures directly from the retrieval software. 
 
You may preorder your disc by telephone or send your 
order by mail to the address listed below.  Credit cards 
and checks are not cashed until we ship. 
 
Your complete satisfaction is GUARANTEED with ShareWare 
OnLine #3. 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
Orders Only: 800-768-7929   Information: 812-442-0110 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 10891
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/25/94  7:17p
Subj: All New Adult CD-ROM                    Refer: NONE
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! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! 
 
                        The A.P.L. CD-ROM! 
 
The APL or Adult Picture Library is now available!  This CD-ROM 
is EXPLODING with 689 of R and X rated adult .GIF pictures, .GL 
movies, .DL movies, and .FLI animation!  All 100% high resolution 
pictures only around 12 pictures less than 100,000 bytes in size! 
This disc contains the following: 
 
     3,112 .GIF Pictures 
        84 .FLI Movies 
       168 .GL Movies 
        90 .DL Movies 
 
+ many programs and graphics viewing software for a GIANT 689 
MEG 100% PREMIUM QUALITY collection.  Pick up your copy today! 
 
Now shipping.  $37.95 + $5.00 standard shipping. 
Dealer pricing is available.  Call for more information. 
 
Get ShareWare OnLine #2 for only $19.95 with purchase! 
 
Mastercard, Visa, personal check, company check, money order or 
cash COD orders are accepted. 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878   812-442-0110 
 
A.P.L./Adult Reference Library - $59.95 
A.P.L./Storm-2 Adult - $49.95 
A.P.L./Physical Therapy - $54.95 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 10892
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/25/94  7:17p
Subj: CMS CD-ROM DISCS                        Refer: NONE
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For the detailed file listing of any of these CDs call the CMS 
support BBS at 812-898-2561.  Available first call.  HST 14,400 
online.  Look in file area #3. 
 
                         CMS CD-ROMS 
-------------------------------------------------------------- 
                     ShareWare OnLine #2 
 
This CD-ROM is 625+ MEGS of only the latest shareware!  This CD 
contains only QUALITY programs and comes with an updated file 
retrieval system.  This disc also contains file description 
formats for virtually every BBS software package on the market 
today!  This collection is updated about every 6 months.  Your 
satisfaction is guaranteed!  $24.95 
 
                   The GameWare Collection 
 
This disc contains around 6,500 shareware games on one CD-ROM! 
This is by far the LARGEST collection of PC games ever assembled 
with arcade games, board games, games for CGA, EGA, and VGA, & 
SVGA text games, sound blaster shoot'em ups, & many more!  As a 
bonus we have included 2,100 color ANSI screens for use on your 
BBS or to use as a screen saver!  This is the  most unique and 
exciting entertainment CD-ROM available today.  Quantities 
limited.  Order yours today.  $24.95   Now Shipping 
 
                  The SoundWare Collection 
 
"The SoundWare Collection" contains nearly 10,000 music & sound 
files for your sound card!  Included on this disc are .CMF, 
.CMS, .MOD, .MID, .ROL, .SND, .VOC, and .WAV files.  These files 
are ready to be played through your sound card with no modification. 
Many custom files are included which are found on no other CD-ROM 
disc. The files contained on "The SoundWare Collection" are not 
archived.  The files may be played directly from the CD-ROM saving 
you time and space on your hard disk. If you have or plan to 
purchase a sound card this disc is a MUST!  $29.95  Now Shipping! 
 
              The User's Choice Windows Archive 
 
"The User's Choice" Windows (TM) archive contains over 5,500 
files just for the Windows operating system.  This is the 
LARGEST collection of Windows related software on CD-ROM you can 
buy today.  This disc contains 675 MEGABYTES of programs and 
supporting software!  On this disc you will find utility 
software, games, sounds for Windows, educational software, video 
and printer drivers, fonts, and much more!  If you use the 
Windows operating system this is the ULTIMATE disc for you. 
100% BBS ready.  $29.95   Now Shipping! 
 
                  The Software Treasure Chest 
 
"The Software Treasure Chest" is an excellent collection of 
software on CD-ROM.  This disc is filled with 675 MEGS with all 
kinds of software ranging from games to utilities.  Windows 
software, fonts, graphics, educational software, clipart, and 
MUCH more.  This disc is fully BBS ready with file descriptions 
in several formats for use on virtually all kinds of BBS 
software.  Excellent file retrieval software is also included 
for the end users.  $24.95   Now Shipping! 
 
                     The Software Tool Chest 
 
The Software Tool Chest is a huge collection of software tools. 
On this disc you will find thousands of utility programs. Any- 
thing from DOS and Windows utilities to Graphics and Music & 
Sound Utilities.  Some other topics include Virus Protection, 
tons of Networking utilities, Communication programs, The LINUX 
Operating System, The OS/2 Operating System, Printing utilities, 
Compression Programs and utilities, and so much more.  Over 5,000 
programs totaling over 600 MEGABYTES!  $34.95  Shipping 02-03-93. 
 
                       A.P.L. Volume #1 
 
The "A)dult P)icture L)ibrary" is a GIANT collection of adult 
GIF pictures, GL movies, DL movies, and FLI animation.  This 
disc is EXPLODING with 689 MEGS of adult software!  All high 
resolution scans with very few pictures less than 100,000 bytes 
in size.  This disc contains 3,112 GIFS, 168 GL movies, 90 DL 
movies, 84 FLI movies, and 52 programs for viewing all the 
software on the disc.  An excellent new disc of adult software. 
Now Shipping.  $37.95.  Must be age 21+ 
 
Special: Get all 7 discs for only $159.95!  Only $22.85 each! 
 
    CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
 
Watch for future CD-ROM releases from CMS Software!  $5.00 
standard shipping. Send all orders to the address listed above. 
CMS accepts Visa, Mastercard, check, COD, and money orders. 
Prices listed reflect a 3% discount for cash.  Dealers call for 
wholesale.  PRODUCERS/AUTHORS: Trade your titles for ours! 
Telephone: 812-442-0110 9 AM to 9 PM Indiana time. 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 10893
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/25/94  7:17p
Subj: CD-ROM Inventory Reduction              Refer: NONE
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                   CMS SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING 
                         P.O. BOX 165 
                     SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
                         812-442-0110 
 
                      Updated 01-23-1994 
 
Its a fact.  CMS is overstocked and to make room for the 
upcomming remodeling and expansion of CMS Software we MUST 
LIQUIDATE the following inventory.  Grab any of the following 
discs for $15 each, unless otherwise noted, while supplies last. 
Buy 7 and select one FREE*.  We will hold nothing back until this 
inventory is GONE.  One of some titles and hundreds of others 
but it ALL must go.  Some discs are used and most are new but 
all are guaranteed against defects.  Dealers call now for bulk 
pricing.  You may grab as many as you like and pay only $3 
shipping**.  You may place your order on Mastercard or Visa or we 
will ship your order COD for $5.00 additional.  You may mail 
your order with a personal check or money order to the address 
at the top of this ad.  * Free CD must be $15 or less.  ** A small 
insurance fee is added to each order. 
 
!!! 650+ MEG Shareware CD only $5.95 with any purchase !!! 
 
Barney Bear Goes to School 
675 MEG Windows CD-ROM          Multi-Media Bookshelf ($25) 
Barney Bear Goes to Space       Fresh Arte Clipart 
Encarta 93 Full Box ($65)       Audubon's Birds MM ($20) 
Software Vault Gold             Pier 3 Shareware 
FontMaster                      Toolworks MM Enyc. 1.5 ($25) 
LaserTax On CD-ROM              Consumer Guide to CD-ROMs 
Clipart Goliath                 Bibles & Religion 
Up All Night Shareware          PC-SIG Version 11 
Black Box Shareware #4          Black Box Shareware #5 
                                Career Opportunities 
2000 Pictures CD-ROM    Random House Unabridged Dictionary ($25) 
ShareWare OnLine II             So Much Shareware #2 
Software Treasure Chest         Crossword Cracker 
LookUp 9 Digit ZIP Lookup ($25) 
DataBase Made Easy              Swimwear 1993 
Super CD W/Super BBS            AB20 Amiga Archives 
Storm #2 ($20) 
Mother Earth II                 Fightsmart 
Adult Reference Library ($25)   So Much Modem Madness ($20) 
Digital Dreams #1 ($25)         Time Almanac 
Quick Art Clipart               PC Sig Library #10 
Between Heaven & Hell II        Digital Dreams #2 ($25) 
Gameware Collection             Danger Hot Stuff 
Klotski Polish Puzzles 
CAD Utility Library             Adult Picture Library #1 ($25) 
Paolo Galli Portfolio #1 ($20)  Paolo Galli Portfolio #2 ($20) 
------------------------------------------------------------ 
Grab the following titles for only $10.00 each while supplies 
last.  1 of some and 100's of others but all will surely go 
quickly so get you orders in today. 
 
Phoenix Phun & Games            Brain Drain Games 
Oldies But Goodies Games        Bed & Breakfast Photo Tour 
Mirror Mirror                   Reel Clips 
Futura Games                    Let's Play (Games) 
Variety Store (Games)           Taxprep 
Selectware Software             MPC Wizard 
PC Gameroom                     Middle East Diary 
 
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From: JEFF CHARLESON                         Number: 10894
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/23/94 11:18a
Subj: NEC 3X AND 4X CD ROM                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Needed:

Information about the 3x and 4x CD-ROM drives.  Also, information on how to 
acquire a double-speed CD-ROM, under 300ms, brand name/generic OK, warranty.

Please E-MAIL me.  Thanks..

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From: DANIEL SHERMAN                         Number: 10895
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 01/23/94  7:03a
Subj: MODEM MADNESS                           Refer: NONE
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TK> So Much Modem Madness has both SFFILES.BBS & FILES.BBS in each dir. 
TK> also, this may appeal to you: it AUTOMATICALLY adds itself to your 
TK> EZROM or SFROM door!  how's that for bbs ready?  all you need to do is 
TK> edit your MAIN.CLR so that callers know what letter is Modem Madness 

 I would just like to say also that this is a great CD I have it online and 
the Users love it. Also the EZROM door is one of the easiest to set up and 
maintain and I will soon be sending in My registration for it (waiting for 
income tax refund). I hope SMMM comes out with more CD's. 

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From: DANIEL SHERMAN                         Number: 10896
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 01/23/94  8:13a
Subj: THIS AND OTHERS                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL> Which CD-Rom are we talking about?  If you are speaking of Top Drawer, 
JL> which is about to be released, it is 96.5% 1993 files and 3% 1994 files. 
JL> Since you didn't quote me, I am not sure which disc you are referring 
JL> to.  Also, Top Drawer was scanned with McAfee's Scanv109.  I'll get you 
JL> a catalog in the mail. 
JL>  
JL>                                                         Jim... 

 Could You also send a catalog to:

Daniel Sherman
5152 Irene Drive
Harrisburg, Pa. 17112

 Thank You

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From: DANIEL SHERMAN                         Number: 10897
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/23/94  8:18a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11                            Refer: NONE
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BO>             N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E
BO> 
BO> * Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous Versions
BO> * All Zipped Files      * New Viewer     * 60% Files Released last 90 days
BO> "Night Owl 11. "  offer's over 5,000 all new files and supports for areas
BO> such as Windows, OS/2, Games, Fonts, Ham Radio, Lan, Business and more !
BO>            Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
BO>    Best Of The Best - Night Owl 11. + Cream Of The Crop II - $50.00
BO> 
BO> ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

 Hey Boris I will be calling You about this cd later in the month but could 
You possibly get Me some Literature on the Sattelite system that You have. 
Both Prices for computer only and for computer and TV applications. Would like
to possibly get it by the middle of the Year but would like some prices so I 
know how much to save up (approx.)

Daniel Sherman
5152 Irene Drive
Harrisburg, Pa. 17112

Thank You

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 10898
  To: JOSEPH ESTEFAN                           Date: 01/24/94  2:15a
Subj: ADULT CD'S FOR SALE?                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 20 Jan 94 08:14pm, Joseph Estefan wrote to All:

>>    Does anyone have any adult cd's that are bbs ready that would 
>>    see them. I will pay good $$$ for them. Thanks in advance..

We still have a few left of the bbs ready versions, but the list is
growing smaller every week!

If your over 21, your welcome to freq "Adult.TXT" from the node/net
number below. If you see anything of interest, feel free to give us
a call and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Please remember, you MUST be 21 or we will NOT SELL you any of the
titles listed no matter where you live.

Hope this helps...


Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 10899
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/24/94  2:15a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11.                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E

* Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous Versions
* All Zipped Files      * New Viewer     * 60% Files Released last 90 days
"Night Owl 11. "  offer's over 4,500 all new files and supports for areas
such as Windows, OS/2, Games, Fonts, Ham Radio, Lan, Business and more !
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
   Best Of The Best - Night Owl 11. + Cream Of The Crop II - $50.00

ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... CAUTION! Silver Xpress roaring through here!
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 10900
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 01/27/94  8:30a
Subj: DESCRIPT.ION                            Refer: 10864
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Just a note to all CD-ROM Publishers.
-> I would like it if when you produce CD-ROM's you would include a 4DOS
-> style DESCRIPT.ION in each directory. That way those of use that use

Nature Graphics has 4DOS description files, as will all future
versions of the Shareware Studio |)...

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 10901
  To: JOHN COOK                                Date: 01/27/94  8:28a
Subj: CD-ROM Catalog\Sales                    Refer: 10874
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> THE EXCHANGE TelCom
-> 3123 Louise Street
-> Tallahassee, FL
-> 32304-2727

Is Doug Ferrell still associated with this company?  I havn't seen any
posts from him in a while & was just wondering...

tim
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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 10902
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/19/94  1:50p
Subj: Cd's For SAle                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have two Cd's for sale:
        The women of Venus - a nice swimsuit CD - $13
        Day of the Tentacle - Complete game with hintbooks, no text to read!!
                                - $25

If you are interested reply here or call 307-766-7917 anytime. Thanks.


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 10903
  To: JOSE VISBAL                              Date: 01/19/94  1:52p
Subj: Want DoT Tentacle                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have it, and I am asking $25 shipped. It even includes the hintbook. If
interested reply here or call 307-766-7917.


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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 10904
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/25/94  9:25a
Subj: Re: New Night Owl                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>>             N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E

BO>> * Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous Versions
  >> * All Zipped Files      * New Viewer     * 60% Files
  >> Released last 90 days

>>    Sorry to have to bring this up, but what about viri?  Are
>>    there any in this version???

BO>For an additional fee of $5.00 you can have 3 virus placed on the cd if
BO>you'd like Craig !!

Boris,
     Do you have a bundle deal, and do you get to pick the type of virus
     ;^).

Tom Miller
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From: GLENN BERNHARD                         Number: 10905
  To: NOLAN SHAPIRO                            Date: 01/24/94  9:53p
Subj: PRICEING                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NOLAN, sorry that it took me so long to get back to you with a price on the
Star bubble jet printer, it lists at $599 YOUR price is $500. We can do
warrenty service on the printer. My 2400 baud modem finaly loged on to that BBS
IN THE SKY. So after counting penneys and dimes finaly decided on a 9600 baud,
much better than old one. If I can do you any good on the printer let me know..
Later...                                                                       
            glenn

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From: TOM HUNT                               Number: 10906
  To: MIKE STEFFEN                             Date: 01/24/94  5:18p
Subj: Freeland,Mi                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Are you the Mike who use to live by Freeland,Mi?? You got any adult CD's
you want to sell??
later
      --skull--


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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 10907
  To: AMY MOODY                                Date: 01/25/94  9:21a
Subj: On their way....                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Amy - I wrote the check out on January 16 and sent it off to you.  You should
have it by now.  Jerry

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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 10908
  To: RICK AURAS                               Date: 01/25/94  9:27a
Subj: CD ROM FOR TRADE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Rick - how about a world atlas?  Jerry

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From: WARREN PASSLER                         Number: 10909
  To: TERRY SMITH                              Date: 01/25/94  8:46a
Subj: Please.                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TS -=>I would also like a copy of any CD Catalogs.
TS -=>Please send to

TS -=>Terry Smith
TS -=>50550 Deer Ridge Ct.
TS -=>Granger,IN  46530


Sorry, I'm not a dealer.  But maybe some of them will see your message and send
you something.



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From: JEAN CASH                              Number: 10910
  To: DARREN JAGGERS                           Date: 01/19/94  4:35p
Subj: Re: cd-rom wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Darren Jaggers to Jean Cash <=-

 DJ> I am sorry I live in Tulsa. How much are wanting for the cd drive?

Darren:

I am asking $150.00.  The price includes the complete system - expansion
board, cable and installation software.  I am also throwing in the $70
two disc PhoneDisc USA set.  This drive is still in warranty and can be
transferred, which means you will be entitled to purchase CD's at big
discounts from the company I purchased it from.  I am selling this unit
because my eyesight is failing and it will not be too long before I
will be unable to do anything with it.  This drive also has stereo phone
jack on front and RCA jacks on rear to connect to stereo system.  It
plays standard music CD's and includes a "Music Launcher" software
program.

Jean Cash                              Voice Phone (405) 525-6344           
1412 N.W. 25th Street                  FAX (405) 525-9594
Oklahoma City, OK 73106-3604

... You appeal to a small group of confused people.
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From: DARREN CASTLEBERRY                     Number: 10911
  To: AMY MOODY                                Date: 01/25/94  1:05a
Subj: Re: cd's for sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Amy Moody to Darren Castleberry <=-

 -> 485 page manual.  $60.00
 
 -> Hi, can you tell me....Is this DOS or MPC????

 AM> I don't know what MPC is...but it does require Windows to 
 AM> run. Hope that helps....

Amy, Thanks for the reply, but for the life of me, I can't remember
which CD we were speaking of! Do you???? :->
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From: DARREN CASTLEBERRY                     Number: 10912
  To: KEVIN MARKOWITZ                          Date: 01/25/94  2:18a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Magazine                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Kevin Markowitz to All <=-

 KM> Hi All,

 KM> Does anyone know of a CD-ROM magazine that is available, called
 KM> "Nautilus" <sp?>.  It comes out monthly, and is like any normal
 KM> magazine you would buy at CNA, only it's on CD-ROM.

 KM> If anyone has any info please NetMail with the info.

Kevin, I have a introductory Nautilus that I'll let you have for 
$9.00 plus shipping. I think you'll like it. Let me know!
Darren Castleberry
4507 Chestergate
Spring, TX 77373
(713) 355-1619

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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 10913
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 01/25/94  5:41p
Subj: Flame? anybody seen i                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

  Hi Lee.  Listen babe, I don't really give a hoot that some "AH" had
  his feathers ruffled by finding 200MB of shareware on BB-II.  I
  thought that was a pretty neat idea and would really encourage you
  to continue offering the latest SW as fillers.  You know there are
  some pretty good utility programs on the CD.  Your pre-pub. stated
  that there were going to be about 1000 GIFs, I thought it was pretty
  smart marketing on your part.  Sooooooo where are the biker girls?
  Oh yea, Happy New Year.

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 10914
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 01/24/94  9:02p
Subj: cd trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GS>I have ANIMATION FANTASIES which I'd like to trade for another adult cd or
GS>non-adult if it 's something I need.  Let me know if interested.

Greg,  I have Storm II, I would consider trading.  I'de like to know a
little more about the Animation Fantasies first though...
BTW, I'm local...    412-588-9316  (you can leave a message if
necessary, but please don't mention titles just in case...)

 þ SLMR 2.1a þ 

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 10915
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/24/94  9:20p
Subj: ALERT! Lost Messages                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If anyone was sent messages to me which were not responded to, I did not
receive any messages for four days.  My "home" BBS lost its message base
and with it about four to five days worth of messages. So... PLEASE sent
your message again and I WILL reply (if I get it).
                                Thanks,   Shane
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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 10916
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 01/25/94  1:24a
Subj: cd trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GS>I have ANIMATION FANTASIES which I'd like to trade for another
SS>adult cd or
GS>non-adult if it 's something I need.  Let me know if
SS>interested.

SS>Greg,  I have Storm II, I would consider trading.  I'de like to
SS>know a
SS>little more about the Animation Fantasies first though...
SS>BTW, I'm local...    412-588-9316  (you can leave a message if
SS>necessary, but please don't mention titles just in case...)

SS> þ SLMR 2.1a þ

Shane,
ANIMATION FANTASIES is composed mostly of FLI's.  If interested let me know. 
I'd like to trade you for Storm II.
Greg

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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 10917
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 01/23/94  3:58p
Subj: Storm I,ii,iii                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Then it happened......

DKI'd be interested in trading one of the Storm's for the King's Quest
DKIV(as long as it's CD-Rom).
DK Let me know which one you'd like to trade for and then we can swap.


I'll take #1. King's Quest is CD-ROM. We can each handle postage(First 
Class should be fine). I'll send yours as soon as I get your address.
Mine is:

  Mike Gervasi
  US NAS PSC 1002 Box 1174
  FPO AE 09727

(US MAIL PLEASE. UPS and FEDEX won't deliver to FPO APO Addresses)

  Leave e-mail when you send it out and also your address!
                     Thanks, Mike

Mike
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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 10918
  To: CHIP SLATE                               Date: 01/23/94  4:02p
Subj: Re: Cd's for trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Then it happened...... -=> Quoting Mike Gervasi to Chip Slate <=-

 MG> Then it happened...... 
 
 MG> I have the following for trade:


 
 MG> Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective vol I

 MG> CSWill trade you Stellar 7 for Sher. Holmes..........

 MG> Ok. Give me your address and I'll send it out.

 MG> Mine is:
 MG> 
 MG> Mike Gervasi
 MG> US NAS PSC 1002 Box 1174
 MG> FPO AE 09727

 MG> Send it US mail as UPS and such won't deliver to FPO addresses.
 MG> 
 MG> Thanks,
 MG> Mike

 MG> Mike
CSYou might want to look back at the message you got that from! I replied 
CSto that guy besides i only have Vol. 2 and Vol. 3...plus i have stellar 
7

  I don't understand what you mean. Did I miss something?
Are you looking to trade my copy of Sherlock Vol I for Stellar 7?

                            Mike

Mike
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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 10919
  To: WESLEY SCHARFF                           Date: 01/24/94 12:12a
Subj: cd-rom to trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Then it happened......WSwell, i finished Indy Jones-Fate of Atlantis 
CD (full talkie version)
WSand would like to trade it.  It is complete in box with hint-book
WSincluded. Any offers?


  How about a trade for 7th Guest complete box set with video?
Let me know.
             809-293-5375.
                 Mike

Mike
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From: BILL LUSCOMBE                          Number: 10920
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 01/25/94  1:41p
Subj: Re: Compton's Int Ency                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> On 22 Jan 94  11:00:00 Ed Duchek did profusely salivate to All <=-

 ED> I have compton's Interactive Encyclopedia for sale on CD.

 ED> This is version 1.01VW for thos interested in version numbers...

 ED> I have not opened the wrapping of it yet, but am very tempted to at
 ED> least try it out....  I will part with this for say $40 if you
 ED> pre-pay. If not, you pick up all P&H and COD charges in excess of
 ED> $40..... 

 ED> Ed Duchek
 ED> (210)650-8069

I'll take it. If you confirm you are holding it for me you can ship it
COD and I'll pay at this end for everything. Thanks :-)
 Let me know here and I'll post my address for you to ship to. :-)
 Bill

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From: JOSE VISBAL                            Number: 10921
  To: AMY MOODY                                Date: 01/25/94  6:14a
Subj: Re: Cd's for sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
 AM> 1.  The Software Toolworks CD Deluxe Pack (3 Disks)
 AM> Includes:
 AM> 21 Volume Multimedia Encyclopedia
 AM> The San Diego Zoo Presents...The Animals
 AM> U.S. Atlas
 AM> World Atlas
 AM> Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing
 AM> ChessMaster 3000
 AM> Comes with original 485 page manual.  $60.00

Will you take 45.00 for it....?
let me know i am interested in these cd's....


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From: LAURA MUSSETTER                        Number: 10922
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 01/25/94  4:01p
Subj: Hot New CDROM Title!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

===========================================================================
 BBS: PC-Montana a PCBoard BBS  << Home of Big
Date: 01-23-94 (18:09)             Number: 13858
From: TERRY WOODWARD               Refer#: NONE
  To: LAURA MUSSETTER               Recvd: NO
Subj: Hot New CDROM Title!           Conf: (181) CDROM_SALE
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TW>LM>MultiMedia Magic is now available! Complete Multimedia Creation and
TW>LM>Authoring System. Easily incorporate Graphics, Text, Speech, Sound
TW>LM>Effects, Music & User Interaction in simple or complex presentations.
TW>LM>Best of all, your creations can be distributed ROYALTY FREE!

TW>Is that DOS, Windoze, or Mac?

TW> * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Overestimation: Thinking that all your geese are swan


TW>--- WM v3.10/91-0241
TW> * Origin: The Library BBS Fort Lauderdale, FL  (1:369/14)

Terry - MultiMedia Magic is a DOS based product. Creations &
presentations will run under DOS or Windows. By the way, it's on special
thru January 31st for $59.95 (retail price). If you'd like more info or
a spec sheet Email me or write or call:
Laura Mussetter
Northern Micro Systems, Inc.
PO Box 486
Absarokee, MT  59001
Voice: (406)328-4343
FAX: (406)328-4322


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 10923
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 01/25/94 10:05p
Subj: Flame? anybody seen it??                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hello Lee!

Monday January 24 1994 12:54, Lee Noga wrote to Dave Reed:

 LN> Why would you even question if I was attempting circumvent the laws
 LN> overseas ? Explain.

Just giving you a hard time...  I shouldn't do that here, I know.  I'm
sorry...    ;-)

Later,

Dave

... I have the heart of a liberal...  in a jar on my desk!

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From: ERIC OLSON                             Number: 10924
  To: CHARLES TYLER                            Date: 01/19/94  8:25p
Subj: Re: Rebel Assault Passcodes             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about!
Little Round Things?????


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From: FRANKY WONG                            Number: 10925
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/24/94 10:55p
Subj: PAYABLE TO WHO?                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dear Brice,

BF> Brice's Library
BF> CD-ROM Price List 14 January 1993

BF> 5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
BF> Indianapolis, IN 46220
BF> Tue Thu 11am - 8pm  Wed Fri 11am - 6pm  EST
BF> (317) 726-1980 voice  (317) 726-1387 BBS (24 hour, 1200/2400/v.32 supported

BF> FidoNet 1:231/190   InterNet sysop@f190.n231.z1.fidonet.org
BF> All prices are in U.S. Dollars and include any applicable Sales Tax.
BF> U.S. Shipping included if prepaid (please allow 7 days for check to clear).

1.      I am going to pay by check, payable to who?

2.      What is difference between King Quest VI (OEM) and (Upgrade)?

3.      Does (OEM) means just the disk(s)?  How about the manual?  It is
        impossible for some games to be without manual!

4.      How much is MS Encarta'93 & '94, MS Bookshelf'93 & '94?

5.      Is your 7th Guest (OEM) the most updated version?  If not, how could I
        deal with software bugs in pervious version?

6.      Please rush me your COMPLETE CD catalog ASAP, either email/netmail/fax
        001-671-647-1238.   ASAP!


Thanks in Advance.  Wish to receive from you so I could send you payment!




Franky Wong.
 þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Hello, I am part number ³ºÞº³º³Û³ºÝ³ºÝ³³


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From: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                       Number: 10926
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/26/94 12:34a
Subj: SCSI BBS CD ROM Sytem                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Doing a little reconfiguring, and this package is now available:

7 SCSI CD ROM Players with SCSI Card, Power Cables/Splitters, SCSI Cables.
You just need one 8 bit slot and boom you're all set. Includes all drivers.

5 Phillips Internals CM212 400ms 150K DTR, 2 CD Caddies ea. These are  
Internals, but are self contained- I have them stacked externally with
  enough power splitters from the PC, and a 8 ft SCSI ribbon. These drives  
were purchased new 4 months ago.
1 Toshiba 3201 External 350ms 150K DTR, 1 Caddy. Will include SCSI cable.
  This drive is about a year old.
1 NEC CDR36 External 500ms 150K DTR, Caddiless. Will include power supply  
SCSI cable. This drive is about a year old, works fine, but may need   some
cleaning- every once in a while you have to turn it on and off to
  re-read a disk
1 Trantor SCSI card.

This entire working system with everything included is worth $1400. I need to
sell them and will take the first fellow sysops offer of $650, plus shipping
and COD charges- add $50.

Also: Pier 3, Pier 2, Night Owls Games, MegaRom 2, CD PowerBox, Night Owl 7,
and Programmers Powerpack. 7 BBS ready CDs worth over $200, add $99 with
purchase above.

Netmail Below or Phone 716 652-3913 voice - do not respond this echo.

Offer for Sysops only though 2-1-94.

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From: CHARLES BARTLETT                       Number: 10927
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/25/94 12:02a
Subj: Amateur Radio Catalogs                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can any one tell me if CD ROMS are available that contain back issues
of magazines like 73 and CQ? I know they were once available as
microfilm by BuckMaster Publishing. CD's would really make it easy to
print out a certain article for information.

						KD4ZUC

01/25/94

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 10928
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 01/25/94  9:49p
Subj: Cd's For SAle                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Will take  Women Of Venus...
give me your address...does 13.00 include shipping?

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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 10929
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/25/94  5:13p
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES -New Release         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************** GRAPHICAL IMAGES OF FLORIDA, INC. ****************

                              Presents

************************ BODACIOUS BEAUTIES ***********************

                  Available From Your Distributor
                  The First Week Of February, 1994

            A FULLY COMMERCIAL -- FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC

             More Than 85 Well Known BODACIOUS BEAUTIES
               Over 2,000 Hi-Res GIFs at 1024x768x256
             Over 650 Megabytes (including thumbnails)
                      From Original 35mm Slides
                          New GUI Interface
                      Installs Quickly & Easily
                       Extremely User Friendly
                      Mouse Support & Popup Help
                     Multiple Directory Slide Show

                               RATED - X

*********************** FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!! ********************
********* FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS *********

                     $25.00 for the first node
             $15.00 each additional node (up to five)
             $12.00 each additional node (up to ten)
             $10.00 each additional node thereafter

WE HAVE SET UP BODACIOUS BEAUTIES WITH THE SYSOP IN MIND BY PUTTING
ALL OF THE IMAGES IN A TOTAL OF 9 DIRECTORIES.

USERS UTILIZING THE CD-ILLUSION INTERFACE WILL SEE 46 DIRECTORIES.

***********************************************************************
***********************************************************************
                     STATS for BODACIOUS BEAUTIES
***********************************************************************
***********************************************************************


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BBLEZ1.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF0101.GIF  -  BBFF0117.GIF  Angel Bust & Jaye Milo
BBFF0901.GIF  -  BBFF0909.GIF  Jessica Fox & Veronica Brazil
BBFF1501.GIF  -  BBFF1504.GIF  Skye Blue & Tracy West
BBLEZ2.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF0201.GIF  -  BBFF0212.GIF  Ash Leigh & Bodacious Babbett
BBFF0601.GIF  -  BBFF0610.GIF  Erika Everest & Vicky
BBFF1101.GIF  -  BBFF1108.GIF  Lisa Rae & Saphire
BBLEZ3.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF0301.GIF  -  BBFF0327.GIF  Brandi Myles & Stephanie
BBFF1001.GIF  -  BBFF1013.GIF  Kiss & Nicole
BBLEZ4.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF0401.GIF  -  BBFF0415.GIF  Busty Belle & Kimberly Kupps
BBFF1401.GIF  -  BBFF1415.GIF  Samanth Caine & Trinity Loren
BBLEZ5.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF0501.GIF  -  BBFF0512.GIF  Crystal Storm & Veronica Brazil
BBFF1301.GIF  -  BBFF1316.GIF  Raquel & Stephanie
BBLEZ6.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF0701.GIF  -  BBFF0710.GIF  Honey Hills & Mickey Mounds
BBFF0801.GIF  -  BBFF0820.GIF  Jerica Fox & Jessica Fox
BBLEZ7.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF1201.GIF  -  BBFF1221.GIF  Persia & Toi
BBFF1601.GIF  -  BBFF1608.GIF  Teresa Tease & Toi

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Directory of BBGIRLS2

BBGROUP1.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBGP0101.GIF  -  BBGP0110.GIF  Flame & LuLu Devine & Dick Nasty
BBGP0201.GIF  -  BBGP0208.GIF  Honey Hills & Lynden Johnson & 
                               Mickey Mounds & Veronica Brazil
BBGP0301.GIF  -  BBGP0313.GIF  Kira & Lady Antoinette & Jimmy Zee
BBGP0401.GIF  -  BBGP0408.GIF  Kiss & Shella Stone & Rod
BBGP0501.GIF  -  BBGP0517.GIF  Raquel & Stephanie & Mark
BBCOUPL1.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBMF0101.GIF  -  BBMF0106.GIF  Bambi The Amazon & Rick Masters
BBMF0301.GIF  -  BBMF0315.GIF  Bodacious Babbett & Don
BBMF0401.GIF  -  BBMF0409.GIF  Ellie & Willie
BBCOUPL2.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBMF0201.GIF  -  BBMF0210.GIF  Barbie Brooks & Brad Armstrong
BBMF1301.GIF  -  BBMF1320 GIF  Teresa Tease & Julian St. Jox
BBCOUPL3.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBMF0501.GIF  -  BBMF0519.GIF  Kimberly Kupps & Chris
BBMF0901.GIF  -  BBMF0914.GIF  Olivia & David
BBMF1201.GIF  -  BBMF1219.GIF  Taylor Wayne & Derrick
BBCOUPL4.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBMF0601.GIF  -  BBMF0614.GIF  Lady Dee & Opu
BBMF0701.GIF  -  BBMF0714.GIF  Leanna Lovelace & Eric
BBMF0801.GIF  -  BBMF0814.GIF  LuLu Devine & Dick Nasty
BBCOUPL5.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBMF1001.GIF  -  BBMF1010.GIF  Sherry & Jimmy Zee
BBMF1101.GIF  -  BBMF1120.GIF  Tammy Monroe & Rick Masters

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Directory of BBGIRLS3

BBGRLS01.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
ALYSSA01.GIF  -  ALYSSA20.GIF  Alyssa Alps
DREAM01.GIF   -  DREAM06.GIF   Justa Dream
LYNDEN01.GIF  -  LYNDEN15.GIF  Lynden Johnson
MOUNDS01.GIF  -  MOUNDS15.GIF  Mickey Mounds
BBGRLS02.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
ANGEL01.GIF   -  ANGEL06.GIF   Angel
EUROPE01.GIF  -  EUROPE07.GIF  Europe Dichan
TEEZE01.GIF   -  TEEZE43.GIF   Traci Teeze
BBGRLS03.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
ANGELA01.GIF  -  ANGELA23.GIF  Angela Summers
CHELLE01.GIF  -  CHELLE19.GIF  Chelle Marie
BBGRLS04.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
APPLES01.GIF  -  APPLES26.GIF  Candee Apples
KISS01.GIF    -  KISS16.GIF    Kiss
BBGRLS05.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BABETT01.GIF  -  BABETT31.GIF  Bodacious Babbett
TOI01.GIF     -  TOI11.GIF     Toi

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Directory of BBGIRLS4

BBGRLS06.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BAMBI01.GIF   -  BAMBI17.GIF   Bambi The Amazon
CIERA01.GIF   -  CIERA06.GIF   Ciera Knight
COTTON01.GIF  -  COTTON19.GIF  Cotton Candy
BBGRLS07.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BO01.GIF      -  BO26.GIF      Bo-Daeshus
DOLLY01.GIF   -  DOLLY15.GIF   Dolly Dreams
BBGRLS08.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BRANDY01.GIF  -  BRANDY17.GIF  Brandy Baby
FIELDS01.GIF  -  FIELDS38.GIF  Valerie Fields
BBGRLS09.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BRITNY01.GIF  -  BRITNY34.GIF  Busty Brittany
JERICA01.GIF  -  JERICA08.GIF  Jerica Fox
BBGRLS10.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BUST01.GIF    -  BUST09.GIF    Angel Bust
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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 10930
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/25/94  5:13p
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES -New Release         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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BBGRLS11.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
DANNI01.GIF   -  DANNI20.GIF   Danni Ashe
LOREN01.GIF   -  LOREN14.GIF   Trinity Loren
MADISON1.GIF  -  MADISON5.GIF  Madison
BBGRLS12.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
DEEDEE01.GIF  -  DEEDEE05.GIF  Dee Dee
TOPPS01.GIF   -  TOPPS25.GIF   Crystal Topps
BBGRLS13.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
DIONNA01.GIF  -  DIONNA32.GIF  Dionna Starr
MOONS01.GIF   -  MOONS16.GIF   Honey Moons
NATALIE1.GIF  -  NATALIE8.GIF  Natalie
BBGRLS14.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
DIOR01.GIF    -  DIOR17.GIF    Kristin Dior
JUGGS01.GIF   -  JUGGS38.GIF   Jessica Juggs
BBGRLS15.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
ERIKA01.GIF   -  ERIKA32.GIF   Erika Everest
RENEE01.GIF   -  RENEE09.GIF   Renee Flaming

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BBGRLS16.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
FLUFFY01.GIF  -  FLUFFY17.GIF  Fluffy Pillows
LISA01.GIF    -  LISA39.GIF    Lisa Chest
BBGRLS17.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
HONEY01.GIF   -  HONEY35.GIF   Honey Hills
STACEY01.GIF  -  STACEY06.GIF  Stacey
BBGRLS18.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
JASMINE1.GIF  -  JASMINE9.GIF  Jasmine
MONROE01.GIF  -  MONROE19.GIF  Maxine Monroe
OLIVIA01.GIF  -  OLIVIA14.GIF  Olivia
BBGRLS19.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
KEISHA01.GIF  -  KEISHA36.GIF  Keisha
SUZIE01.GIF   -  SUZIE20.GIF   Suzie Boobies
BBGRLS20.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
KUPPS01.GIF   -  KUPPS12.GIF   Kimberly Kupps
PATIYA01.GIF  -  PATIYA17.GIF  Princess Pattiya

      229 file(s)   65642363 bytes

Directory of BBGIRLS7

BBGRLS21.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
LOVE01.GIF    -  LOVE12.GIF    Alexis Love
PLENTY01.GIF  -  PLENTY16.GIF  Patty Plenty
VULVA01.GIF   -  VULVA14.GIF   Explicit Closeups
BBGRLS22.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
LULU01.GIF    -  LULU35.GIF    LuLu Devine
MONTANA1.GIF  -  MONTANA6.GIF  Montana
MOORE01.GIF   -  MOORE15.GIF   Chessie Moore
BBGRLS23.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
MYLES01.GIF   -  MYLES13.GIF   Brandi Myles
TOWERS01.GIF  -  TOWERS43.GIF  Tabatha Towers
BBGRLS24.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
RAE01.GIF     -  RAE27.GIF     Lisa Rae
ZORYNA01.GIF  -  ZORYNA29.GIF  Zoryna Dreams

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Directory of BBGIRLS8

CANDY.GIF     -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
CANDY01.GIF   -  CANDY55.GIF   Candy Cantelopes
HEATHER.GIF   -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
HEATHR01.GIF  -  HEATHR30.GIF  Heather Hooters
PARIS.GIF     -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
PARIS01.GIF   -  PARIS52.GIF   Chrissy Paris
WENDY.GIF     -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
WENDY01.GIF   -  WENDY52.GIF   Wendy Whoppers

      193 file(s)   57080416 bytes

Directory of BBGIRLS9

DIXIE.GIF     -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
DIXIE00.GIF   -  DIXIE54.GIF   Dixie Bubbles (Back Covergirl)
KELLY1.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
KELLY00.GIF   -  KELLY41.GIF   Dakota Kelly (Inside Front Covergirl)
KELLY2.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
KELLY42.GIF   -  KELLY71.GIF   Dakota Kelly (Inside Front Covergirl)
STORM1.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
STORM000.GIF  -  STORM055.GIF  Crystal Storm (Front Covergirl)
STORM2.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
STORM056.GIF  -  STORM107.GIF  Crystal Storm (Front Covergirl)

      240 file(s)   75321620 bytes

***********************************************************************
                     TOTALS for BODACIOUS BEAUTIES
***********************************************************************

Total GIF files listed:               2071 file(s)  630769139 bytes
Total Thumbnail CVI files:              46 file(s)   36215616 bytes
Total MAP files:                        46 file(s)     856428 bytes
Total FILES.BBS files:                   9 file(s)      70493 bytes
Total files in ILLUSION directory:      43 file(s)    6982582 bytes
Total files in VPIC directory:          64 file(s)     393325 bytes
INSTALL.BAT                              1 file(s)         97 bytes

TOTAL FILES ON BODACIOUS BEAUTIES:    2280 file(s)  675287680 bytes
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***************** Our NEW GUI Interface features: *****************

1.)     Total mouse or keyboard control.

2.)     View all of the images in a directory on a single
        hi-resolution thumbnail page.

3.)     Click mouse or press enter on an image on the thumbnail
        page and view it in FULL SCREEN mode.

4.)     Copy single or multiple images from thumbnail image page
        to the hard drive or a floppy disc.

5.)     Slideshow the images from a single or multiple directories
        (unlimited tag capability, ie. all the images on the disc).

6.)     User definable delay setting for slideshow
        (Range 0 to 99999 seconds, 0 equals manual advancement).

7.)     Boss/Wife feature blanks thumbnail page to either a BLANK
        screen or to the CD-ILLUSION LOGO screen.
        (User selects in setup).

8.)     Shells to DOS from the CD-ILLUSION interface and retains
        all of your conventional memory except 17K. (ie. if you
        have 617K conventional memory available after booting
        your system, when you shell to DOS from CD-Illusion you
        will have 600K conventional memory available)

9.)     Three dimensional push button menu bar.

10.)    User definable settings for mouse control for slower or
        faster computers.

                SETTINGS:       Mouse Button Delay Factor


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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 10931
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/25/94  5:13p
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES -New Release         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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                                Sensitivity for X and Y Factor
                                Mouse Double Speed Threshold

11.)    Status information line indicates the following information:

        a. The filename of the current GIF highlighted.
        b. The description of the current GIF highlighted.
        c. The directory the current GIF highlighted resides in.
        d. Whether you are in the SINGLE or TAG image mode.
        e. When in the TAG mode, indicates the number of GIF's
           in the directory and the number of GIFs tagged.
        f. On screen REAL TIME digital clock which displays the
           hour, minutes, and seconds.

12.)    The current thumbnail is highlighted with a red box, the
        tagged thumbnails are highlighted with a white box.

13.)    CD-ILLUSION provides a QUICK HELP reference by clicking
        your mouse on the HELP button or by pressing <F8> and
        provides a DETAILED HELP reference by clicking your mouse
        on the SETUP button or by pressing <F9> and choosing
        HELP from the setup menu.

14.)    CD-ILLUSION is a very fast HI-RESOLUTION Graphical User
        Interface (GUI) and is extremely USER FRIENDLY.

15.)    CD-ILLUSION supports most major manufacturers video cards.---
 * Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 |  (1:106/30)
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From: DOUGLAS SMITH                          Number: 10932
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/25/94  1:37a
Subj: Soundblaster 16                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Soundblaster 16 --> $100 + $5 shipping

    16-bit soundcard with Panasonic CD-ROM drive interface (CD-ROM
    cables not included). Includes speaker cable, DOS & Windows disks,
    CD-ROM installation disk, and documentation.

Labtec Speakers --> $15 + $3 shipping

    These are the typical small speakers often seen used with sound
    boards. They sound decent and have volume and treble controls.

"Where in The World is Carmen Sandiego Deluxe" CD-ROM --> $25 + $2 shipping

    Booklet, CD, and case.


If interested, reply here or call me at (904) 623-3297


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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10933
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/25/94  5:38a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
                        ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3600 CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee

                    ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee

                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
14.4 Power supply..................$10.00 ea.
external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
FedEX Shipping (drives)$10.00 for up to 2 drives,$20.00 for 3-4 drives.

                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****

As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
offering all refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit,
to be shipped upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30
days for receipt of your refurbished drive.

                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: MAJIC NAME: "CONFIG" gets all CD-ROM oriented files
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariat.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 10934
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/25/94  5:38a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For 1,500+ CD-Titles & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip, descript.zip (or) MAJIC word CONFIG gets both
The Blue Parrot CD-ROM SUPPORT RBBS offers non-backboned echo config
for daily cdlist updates, news, game reviews, & more.
All config.sys cd-rom support files are available to all NEW users!

Fido: 1:157/479 - RBBS: 8:965/13 - Kesher: 18:711/176 - WWIV: 2@2659
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.|Voice: (216) 296.9831 or 296.4446 24hrs
P.O. Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240  |BBS/Fax: 216.296.2244 - 23hrs 16.8k ZYX
Internet: joe@config.wariat.org|>>>>>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<<<

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From: JAMES FRENCH                           Number: 10935
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/23/94 10:19p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JB>JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!************* 
    Please send one to: 
    James French 
    121 Benwynd 
    Mesquite, Tx. 75149 
        Thanks!! 
 þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Mental Floss prevents Moral Decay.
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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 10936
  To: ROGER DAVIS                              Date: 01/26/94  7:17a
Subj: CDs to SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Roger - would you give more information on the wilsondisc reader's digest cd
please?  Jerry

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From: LLOYD NICKENS                          Number: 10937
  To: BLAKE BARR                               Date: 01/25/94  9:31a
Subj: OS/2 2.1 CD-ROM Edition                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Wow Back east you can pick up TWO copies for that price. It cost $36 bucks at
Egghead Software.

                                AS said before good luck
                                Lloyd

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From: IAN SINGER                             Number: 10938
  To: JESSE COLLINS                            Date: 01/25/94  5:36p
Subj: Night Owl                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Night Owls 2 was call Carrs. Not sure if there was a version 1 or a v3.

I have in stock, new, 4.2, 5.0, 6.2, 7.0, 9.0, 10.0 and Business. V8 and
v11 will be back in stock later this week. See the price lists I post.
All the filke lists are a free download at 416-252-1133 and CDs can be
ordered on line with Visa.
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From: IAN SINGER                             Number: 10939
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/25/94  5:45p
Subj: Re: New Night Owl                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> For an additional fee of $5.00 you can have 3 virus placed on the cd
-> if you'd like Craig !!

You have a deal when you confirm it and provide shipping address.  I
will buy an NOPv11 from you at the price you advertise on line , plus
$5, and you ship me one that has all the files on it plus 3
viruses.  It must be a regular CD and not one of those you can cut
yourself and the artwork must be a copy of the original.  Deal?
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From: TED MANAHAN                            Number: 10940
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/24/94  2:18p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Joe,

   Please send me the fee CD catalog

Ted Manahan
18 Westbrooke Ct.
Voorhees, NJ 08043


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From: DON BOSMAN                             Number: 10941
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 01/25/94 11:16p
Subj: Flame? anybody seen it??                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 > DR>> So, you're admitting that you are attempting to circumvent the laws
 > DR>> of overseas countries?  That was "Busty Babes," right?
 > That is *NOT* what I am saying--I am saying, that

 > Why would you even question if I was attempting
 > circumvent the laws overseas ? Explain.

Two personal suggestions:

(1) I would suggest that you go back and re-read your original
post.

I have several neighbors who travel back and forth to countries that would ban
your disc, and I read the same implicatons as DR did.  Mis-labeling or false
labeling is exactly how many people DO smuggle contraband materials into those
countries.

(2) Stop posting anything to this echo that you have not first cleared with
your legal counsel.

While I find your present legal problems to be educational,
until your intellectual property disagreement is resolved in court, you should
not be posting anything bearing any resemblence to involvement in skirting the
law of any country.  If you don't think that is implicit in your previous post,
then you had better have a talk with your lawyer.

The above is not legal advice, just a personal opinion.

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 10942
  To: MIKE BOULTER                             Date: 01/26/94  8:42p
Subj: Re: Adult cd's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

23 Jan 94  13:05:00, Kevin Plummer whispered to Mike Boulter...
MB> ->
-> AMATUER MODELS (X)  - - - $25.00
MB> 
MB> [etc...etc]
MB> 
MB> Which of these discs are BBS ready?  I'm looking for a dozen or more good
MB> titles.
                      S A Y L O R   E N T E R P R I S E S
                                 P.O. Box 2083
                            Indianapolis, IN  46206

                          ( 3 1 7 )   8 8 1 - 9 3 9 1
                SHIPPING AND HANDLING CHARGE IS $5.00 PER ORDER
           PRICING AND AVAILABILITY IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE AT ANY TIME
                  ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
                  ³                                          ³
                  ³   These discs contain ADULT material!    ³
                  ³        FOR SALE TO ADULTS ONLY!          ³
                  ³                                          ³
                  ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ

AMATUER MODELS (X)  - - - $25.00
    Over 500 full colr SVGA images of beautiful women.  650 megs of centerfold
    style layouts.  Photographs by professionals from around the world.  All
    images are in 1024 x 768 x 256 color format and 16.7 million color 24 bit
    TIFF format.  ViewCD CD-ROM viewer for easy viewing.  Automatic
    installation for quick startup.  FILES.BBS description file.
    BBS Ready

BUSTY BABES #2 (XXX)  - - - $30.00
     New copyrighted collection of California Girls.  BBS ready.  "Show Off"
     interface makes this a real joy to run.

DIGITAL DREAMS (X)  - - - $25.00
     GIF images, adult images.  BBS ready.  660 Megabytes of original images.
     Easy installation.  A real classy disc.

SWEET DREAMS (X)  - - - $30.00
     Collection of sexy ladies that will give you "Sweet Dreams". Interactive
     options on this slick new interface. BBS ready.

SUPER SMUTWARE (XXX)  - - - $26.00
     640 Megabytes.  1,000 1024x768x256 color images and 2,000 800x600 images.
     100 adult animations.  BBS ready.

WILD WOMEN (XXX)  - - - $26.00
     600 Megabytes of "HOT" adult GIFS.  Easy user interface. BBS ready.




  All the ones that say "BBS Ready"...

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From: RAY DENALLI                            Number: 10943
  To: JEFF WEISS                               Date: 01/26/94 10:42a
Subj: RE: FLORIDA STATUTES                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks, I'll do just that.

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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 10944
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/26/94 12:01p
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New Release        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************** GRAPHICAL IMAGES OF FLORIDA, INC. ****************

                              Presents

************************ BODACIOUS BEAUTIES ***********************

                  Available From Your Distributor
                  The First Week Of February, 1994

            A FULLY COMMERCIAL -- FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC

             More Than 85 Well Known BODACIOUS BEAUTIES
               Over 2,000 Hi-Res GIFs at 1024x768x256
             Over 650 Megabytes (including thumbnails)
                      From Original 35mm Slides
                          New GUI Interface
                      Installs Quickly & Easily
                       Extremely User Friendly
                      Mouse Support & Popup Help
                     Multiple Directory Slide Show

                               RATED - X

*********************** FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!! ********************
********* FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS *********

                     $25.00 for the first node
             $15.00 each additional node (up to five)
             $12.00 each additional node (up to ten)
             $10.00 each additional node thereafter

WE HAVE SET UP BODACIOUS BEAUTIES WITH THE SYSOP IN MIND BY PUTTING
ALL OF THE IMAGES IN A TOTAL OF 9 DIRECTORIES.

USERS UTILIZING THE CD-ILLUSION INTERFACE WILL SEE 46 DIRECTORIES.

***********************************************************************
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                     STATS for BODACIOUS BEAUTIES
***********************************************************************
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Directory of BBGIRLS1

BBLEZ1.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF0101.GIF  -  BBFF0117.GIF  Angel Bust & Jaye Milo
BBFF0901.GIF  -  BBFF0909.GIF  Jessica Fox & Veronica Brazil
BBFF1501.GIF  -  BBFF1504.GIF  Skye Blue & Tracy West
BBLEZ2.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF0201.GIF  -  BBFF0212.GIF  Ash Leigh & Bodacious Babbett
BBFF0601.GIF  -  BBFF0610.GIF  Erika Everest & Vicky
BBFF1101.GIF  -  BBFF1108.GIF  Lisa Rae & Saphire
BBLEZ3.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF0301.GIF  -  BBFF0327.GIF  Brandi Myles & Stephanie
BBFF1001.GIF  -  BBFF1013.GIF  Kiss & Nicole
BBLEZ4.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF0401.GIF  -  BBFF0415.GIF  Busty Belle & Kimberly Kupps
BBFF1401.GIF  -  BBFF1415.GIF  Samanth Caine & Trinity Loren
BBLEZ5.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF0501.GIF  -  BBFF0512.GIF  Crystal Storm & Veronica Brazil
BBFF1301.GIF  -  BBFF1316.GIF  Raquel & Stephanie
BBLEZ6.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF0701.GIF  -  BBFF0710.GIF  Honey Hills & Mickey Mounds
BBFF0801.GIF  -  BBFF0820.GIF  Jerica Fox & Jessica Fox
BBLEZ7.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF1201.GIF  -  BBFF1221.GIF  Persia & Toi
BBFF1601.GIF  -  BBFF1608.GIF  Teresa Tease & Toi

      224 file(s)   76746848 bytes

Directory of BBGIRLS2

BBGROUP1.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBGP0101.GIF  -  BBGP0110.GIF  Flame & LuLu Devine & Dick Nasty
BBGP0201.GIF  -  BBGP0208.GIF  Honey Hills & Lynden Johnson &
                               Mickey Mounds & Veronica Brazil
BBGP0301.GIF  -  BBGP0313.GIF  Kira & Lady Antoinette & Jimmy Zee
BBGP0401.GIF  -  BBGP0408.GIF  Kiss & Shella Stone & Rod
BBGP0501.GIF  -  BBGP0517.GIF  Raquel & Stephanie & Mark
BBCOUPL1.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBMF0101.GIF  -  BBMF0106.GIF  Bambi The Amazon & Rick Masters
BBMF0301.GIF  -  BBMF0315.GIF  Bodacious Babbett & Don
BBMF0401.GIF  -  BBMF0409.GIF  Ellie & Willie
BBCOUPL2.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBMF0201.GIF  -  BBMF0210.GIF  Barbie Brooks & Brad Armstrong
BBMF1301.GIF  -  BBMF1320 GIF  Teresa Tease & Julian St. Jox
BBCOUPL3.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBMF0501.GIF  -  BBMF0519.GIF  Kimberly Kupps & Chris
BBMF0901.GIF  -  BBMF0914.GIF  Olivia & David
BBMF1201.GIF  -  BBMF1219.GIF  Taylor Wayne & Derrick
BBCOUPL4.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBMF0601.GIF  -  BBMF0614.GIF  Lady Dee & Opu
BBMF0701.GIF  -  BBMF0714.GIF  Leanna Lovelace & Eric
BBMF0801.GIF  -  BBMF0814.GIF  LuLu Devine & Dick Nasty
BBCOUPL5.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBMF1001.GIF  -  BBMF1010.GIF  Sherry & Jimmy Zee
BBMF1101.GIF  -  BBMF1120.GIF  Tammy Monroe & Rick Masters

      246 file(s)   79121133 bytes

Directory of BBGIRLS3

BBGRLS01.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
ALYSSA01.GIF  -  ALYSSA20.GIF  Alyssa Alps
DREAM01.GIF   -  DREAM06.GIF   Justa Dream
LYNDEN01.GIF  -  LYNDEN15.GIF  Lynden Johnson
MOUNDS01.GIF  -  MOUNDS15.GIF  Mickey Mounds
BBGRLS02.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
ANGEL01.GIF   -  ANGEL06.GIF   Angel
EUROPE01.GIF  -  EUROPE07.GIF  Europe Dichan
TEEZE01.GIF   -  TEEZE43.GIF   Traci Teeze
BBGRLS03.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
ANGELA01.GIF  -  ANGELA23.GIF  Angela Summers
CHELLE01.GIF  -  CHELLE19.GIF  Chelle Marie
BBGRLS04.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
APPLES01.GIF  -  APPLES26.GIF  Candee Apples
KISS01.GIF    -  KISS16.GIF    Kiss
BBGRLS05.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BABETT01.GIF  -  BABETT31.GIF  Bodacious Babbett
TOI01.GIF     -  TOI11.GIF     Toi

      243 file(s)   73408472 bytes

Directory of BBGIRLS4

BBGRLS06.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BAMBI01.GIF   -  BAMBI17.GIF   Bambi The Amazon
CIERA01.GIF   -  CIERA06.GIF   Ciera Knight
COTTON01.GIF  -  COTTON19.GIF  Cotton Candy
BBGRLS07.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BO01.GIF      -  BO26.GIF      Bo-Daeshus
DOLLY01.GIF   -  DOLLY15.GIF   Dolly Dreams
BBGRLS08.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BRANDY01.GIF  -  BRANDY17.GIF  Brandy Baby
FIELDS01.GIF  -  FIELDS38.GIF  Valerie Fields
BBGRLS09.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BRITNY01.GIF  -  BRITNY34.GIF  Busty Brittany
JERICA01.GIF  -  JERICA08.GIF  Jerica Fox
BBGRLS10.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BUST01.GIF    -  BUST09.GIF    Angel Bust
JAMES01.GIF   -  JAMES62.GIF   Jesse James

      256 file(s)   76096744 bytes



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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 10945
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/26/94 12:01p
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New Release        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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Directory of BBGIRLS5

BBGRLS11.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
DANNI01.GIF   -  DANNI20.GIF   Danni Ashe
LOREN01.GIF   -  LOREN14.GIF   Trinity Loren
MADISON1.GIF  -  MADISON5.GIF  Madison
BBGRLS12.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
DEEDEE01.GIF  -  DEEDEE05.GIF  Dee Dee
TOPPS01.GIF   -  TOPPS25.GIF   Crystal Topps
BBGRLS13.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
DIONNA01.GIF  -  DIONNA32.GIF  Dionna Starr
MOONS01.GIF   -  MOONS16.GIF   Honey Moons
NATALIE1.GIF  -  NATALIE8.GIF  Natalie
BBGRLS14.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
DIOR01.GIF    -  DIOR17.GIF    Kristin Dior
JUGGS01.GIF   -  JUGGS38.GIF   Jessica Juggs
BBGRLS15.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
ERIKA01.GIF   -  ERIKA32.GIF   Erika Everest
RENEE01.GIF   -  RENEE09.GIF   Renee Flaming

      226 file(s)   66984478 bytes

Directory of BBGIRLS6

BBGRLS16.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
FLUFFY01.GIF  -  FLUFFY17.GIF  Fluffy Pillows
LISA01.GIF    -  LISA39.GIF    Lisa Chest
BBGRLS17.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
HONEY01.GIF   -  HONEY35.GIF   Honey Hills
STACEY01.GIF  -  STACEY06.GIF  Stacey
BBGRLS18.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
JASMINE1.GIF  -  JASMINE9.GIF  Jasmine
MONROE01.GIF  -  MONROE19.GIF  Maxine Monroe
OLIVIA01.GIF  -  OLIVIA14.GIF  Olivia
BBGRLS19.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
KEISHA01.GIF  -  KEISHA36.GIF  Keisha
SUZIE01.GIF   -  SUZIE20.GIF   Suzie Boobies
BBGRLS20.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
KUPPS01.GIF   -  KUPPS12.GIF   Kimberly Kupps
PATIYA01.GIF  -  PATIYA17.GIF  Princess Pattiya

      229 file(s)   65642363 bytes

Directory of BBGIRLS7

BBGRLS21.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
LOVE01.GIF    -  LOVE12.GIF    Alexis Love
PLENTY01.GIF  -  PLENTY16.GIF  Patty Plenty
VULVA01.GIF   -  VULVA14.GIF   Explicit Closeups
BBGRLS22.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
LULU01.GIF    -  LULU35.GIF    LuLu Devine
MONTANA1.GIF  -  MONTANA6.GIF  Montana
MOORE01.GIF   -  MOORE15.GIF   Chessie Moore
BBGRLS23.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
MYLES01.GIF   -  MYLES13.GIF   Brandi Myles
TOWERS01.GIF  -  TOWERS43.GIF  Tabatha Towers
BBGRLS24.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
RAE01.GIF     -  RAE27.GIF     Lisa Rae
ZORYNA01.GIF  -  ZORYNA29.GIF  Zoryna Dreams

      214 file(s)   60367065 bytes

Directory of BBGIRLS8

CANDY.GIF     -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
CANDY01.GIF   -  CANDY55.GIF   Candy Cantelopes
HEATHER.GIF   -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
HEATHR01.GIF  -  HEATHR30.GIF  Heather Hooters
PARIS.GIF     -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
PARIS01.GIF   -  PARIS52.GIF   Chrissy Paris
WENDY.GIF     -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
WENDY01.GIF   -  WENDY52.GIF   Wendy Whoppers

      193 file(s)   57080416 bytes

Directory of BBGIRLS9

DIXIE.GIF     -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
DIXIE00.GIF   -  DIXIE54.GIF   Dixie Bubbles (Back Covergirl)
KELLY1.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
KELLY00.GIF   -  KELLY41.GIF   Dakota Kelly (Inside Front Covergirl)
KELLY2.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
KELLY42.GIF   -  KELLY71.GIF   Dakota Kelly (Inside Front Covergirl)
STORM1.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
STORM000.GIF  -  STORM055.GIF  Crystal Storm (Front Covergirl)
STORM2.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
STORM056.GIF  -  STORM107.GIF  Crystal Storm (Front Covergirl)

      240 file(s)   75321620 bytes

***********************************************************************
                     TOTALS for BODACIOUS BEAUTIES
***********************************************************************

Total GIF files listed:               2071 file(s)  630769139 bytes
Total Thumbnail CVI files:              46 file(s)   36215616 bytes
Total MAP files:                        46 file(s)     856428 bytes
Total FILES.BBS files:                   9 file(s)      70493 bytes
Total files in ILLUSION directory:      43 file(s)    6982582 bytes
Total files in VPIC directory:          64 file(s)     393325 bytes
INSTALL.BAT                              1 file(s)         97 bytes

TOTAL FILES ON BODACIOUS BEAUTIES:    2280 file(s)  675287680 bytes
*******************************************************************
*******************************************************************


***************** Our NEW GUI Interface features: *****************

1.)     Total mouse or keyboard control.

2.)     View all of the images in a directory on a single
        hi-resolution thumbnail page.

3.)     Click mouse or press enter on an image on the thumbnail
        page and view it in FULL SCREEN mode.

4.)     Copy single or multiple images from thumbnail image page
        to the hard drive or a floppy disc.

5.)     Slideshow the images from a single or multiple directories
        (unlimited tag capability, ie. all the images on the disc).

6.)     User definable delay setting for slideshow
        (Range 0 to 99999 seconds, 0 equals manual advancement).

7.)     Boss/Wife feature blanks thumbnail page to either a BLANK
        screen or to the CD-ILLUSION LOGO screen.
        (User selects in setup).

8.)     Shells to DOS from the CD-ILLUSION interface and retains
        all of your conventional memory except 17K. (ie. if you
        have 617K conventional memory available after booting
        your system, when you shell to DOS from CD-Illusion you
        will have 600K conventional memory available)

9.)     Three dimensional push button menu bar.

10.)    User definable settings for mouse control for slower or
        faster computers.

                SETTINGS:       Mouse Button Delay Factor


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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 10946
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/26/94 12:01p
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New Release        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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                                Sensitivity for X and Y Factor
                                Mouse Double Speed Threshold

11.)    Status information line indicates the following information:

        a. The filename of the current GIF highlighted.
        b. The description of the current GIF highlighted.
        c. The directory the current GIF highlighted resides in.
        d. Whether you are in the SINGLE or TAG image mode.
        e. When in the TAG mode, indicates the number of GIF's
           in the directory and the number of GIFs tagged.
        f. On screen REAL TIME digital clock which displays the
           hour, minutes, and seconds.

12.)    The current thumbnail is highlighted with a red box, the
        tagged thumbnails are highlighted with a white box.

13.)    CD-ILLUSION provides a QUICK HELP reference by clicking
        your mouse on the HELP button or by pressing <F8> and
        provides a DETAILED HELP reference by clicking your mouse
        on the SETUP button or by pressing <F9> and choosing
        HELP from the setup menu.

14.)    CD-ILLUSION is a very fast HI-RESOLUTION Graphical User
        Interface (GUI) and is extremely USER FRIENDLY.

15.)    CD-ILLUSION supports most major manufacturers video cards.  
 
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From: GARY HEDBERG                           Number: 10947
  To: LOYD CRAFT                               Date: 01/26/94  9:53p
Subj: Shareware Studio ]I[                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

LLoyd,
  How much duplication between Shareware Studio ]I[ and Night Owl 11?

Gary
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From: MIKE STEFFEN                           Number: 10948
  To: RICK BAUER                               Date: 01/26/94  9:53p
Subj: re: CD trade                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Just a note to say FAO Gold received OK.  Hope all OK on your end too!
Mike

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From: MIKE STEFFEN                           Number: 10949
  To: EDDIE IMPERIAL                           Date: 01/26/94  9:55p
Subj: re: CD trade                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sent APL CD to the address you had given me, and was returned today!  UPS card
said Out of Business!?
Mike

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From: MIKE STEFFEN                           Number: 10950
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/26/94  9:57p
Subj: Adult CD for trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have A.P.L. adult CD ROM for trade if anyone is interested.  Looking for
amateur CD or something different in an adult CD.  Note...APL is not a good CD
for BBS use, as it does not have FILES.BBS in each directory!
Mike

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 10951
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/19/94 12:34p
Subj: CD-ROMs, within Canada                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                     CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA

                 6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7
               306-789-4654 Voice  *  306-789-8690 Fax
       ** Regular Priced Samples from our current catalog! **

               Canadian Funds, **ALL TAXES INCLUDED **

3D Darlings (G-Stills)         50    Landscapes                     45
3D Dream Girls (R-Stills)      50    Languages of the World         40
Airbrush Portfolio             60    Learning Lotus 1-2-3           40
Amateur Models (A) X           40    Learning Windows 3.1           40
Amourous Asian Girls (XXX-Moti 60    MacMillan Dictionary for Kids  35
Animals San Diego Zoo OEM      35    Mayo Clinic                    40
Art Appeal - Business          45    Mega-Media 1                   35
Art Appeal - Educ & Leisure    45    Mega-Media 2                   35
Art Appeal - Gov & Industry    45    Microsoft Bookshelf            75
Arthur's Teacher Trouble       45    Mixed Up Mother Goose          35
ASP Shareware - 1 only         35    Monster Media 93 #2            45
Bibles and Religion            25    More Northern Delights (XXX-St 45
Bikini Beach (XX-Motion)       65    Mystique of the Orient (A)     60
Bodacious Beauties (X-Stills)  55    Nature Graphics                30
Busty Babes Vol I (1 only)     45    Night Owl 11                   50
Busty Babes Volume II (X-Still 50    Night Owl 10.1                 49
CD Winbox (1 only)             35    Night Owl 9  (1 only)          45
Classic Cars                   45    Northern Delights (XXX-Stills) 45
College Girls (XXX-Motion)     60    OS/2 Box   (SALE!  $29)        35
ColorMagic (PC/MAC)            45    Our Solar System               25
Computer Reference Library     25    P.C. Sig #13                   40
Cookbook USA Jr.               35    Publisher's Dream Disk w/man.  50
Dictionaries & Languages       25    Publishers Paradise w/manual   40
Digital Dreams Volume 2 (X-Sti 40    Resource Library - Audio       30
Dinosaur Adventures            40    Resource Library - Graphics    30
Doors of Passion (XXX-Motion)  65    Resource Library - Multimedia  30
Double Play #1 (XXX-Stills)    60    Return to the Moon (1 only)    55
Dr. Games #2                   30    Sci-Fi Games and Trivia        40
Dr. Music #2                   30    Shareware 93 Volume 2          40
Dr. Windows #2                 30    Shareware Expl MS DOS Vol 3    40
Encyclopedia of Sound          25    Shareware Expl MS Win Vol 2    40
Erotica (XX-Motion)            65    Shareware Explorer 4 disc set  70
Extreme Delight XXX            60    Shareware Overload Trio (3 dis 40
Fantazia Fonts                 45    Shareware Studio 3             30
Fingers for Windows (OEM)      45    Simtel 20 - April 1993 (1 only 35
Fingers for Windows (Retail Pk 70    Sizzle (R-Stills)              45
Flowering Plants               45    Software Jukebox               35
Games Platinum                 30    Software Vault 3 (Gold)        35
Girl's of Risque (X-Stills) Li 45    Southern Beauties (A) X        50
Grolier Encyclopedia (OEM)     75    Space Adventure                35
Hacker Chronicles (Retail Box) 50    Super Smutware (A) XXX         40
Ham Radio 3.0                  25    Sweet Dreams (X-Stills)        50
Home and Office Legal Guide    30    Tech Arsenel                   40
Hot Peppers (XXX-Stills)       65    Too Many Typefonts             25
Hot Pix 2/3/4/5 ea. (XXX)      35    Total Fantasy XXX              35
House of Games II              30    Venus Model Search 93/94 (G)   50
Icons/Wallpaper and More       50    Win Platinum                   30
Kodak Photo CD                 30    Windows 1993                   40
Kodak Photo CD w/Processing    55    Women of Venus (1 only)        40
Lan Master                     40    Women on Wheels (X-Stills)     50
                                     World Vista MPC Atlas          50

    All amounts in Canadian funds; S/H $3 1st disc $2 thereafter
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From: PETER DEGRAAF                          Number: 10952
  To: PETER DEGRAAF                            Date: 01/19/94  3:13p
Subj: Test Winmail                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Test using WinMail via cdrom-sale

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From: RICK BECKENSTEN                        Number: 10953
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/19/94  5:17p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Does your Microsoft Works CD include documentation?

What's the best way to order?  Fax or Phone?

Rick Beckensten


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From: JASON CROPPER                          Number: 10954
  To: DENNIS WRIGHT                            Date: 01/20/94  6:24p
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does your business offer a catalog of titles?

    -Jason

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From: LAURA MUSSETTER                        Number: 10955
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/20/94  6:19p
Subj: Hot New CDROM Title!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MultiMedia Magic is now available! Complete Multimedia Creation and
Authoring System. Easily incorporate Graphics, Text, Speech, Sound
Effects, Music & User Interaction in simple or complex presentations.
Best of all, your creations can be distributed ROYALTY FREE!
BONUS:MultiMedia Magic on CDROM includes hundreds of ready to use
Background Screens, Wallpapers, Clip Graphics and Sound Effects. For
more info - Reply here or call Laura at Northern Micro Systems Voice:
(406)328-4343 FAX: (406)328-4322 (Montana) DEALER INQUIRIES WANTED!

 * OLX 2.1 TD * What does the Clock Say? Time to Go Fishing!
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From: AMY MOODY                              Number: 10956
  To: BRIAN WOODBURY                           Date: 01/20/94  5:16p
Subj: On it's way...                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Brian,
  Dropped the CD's in the mail on Weds. morning...let me know when they arrive.

SEEYA!
  Amy

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From: AMY MOODY                              Number: 10957
  To: JERRY ZELLER                             Date: 01/20/94  5:17p
Subj: On their way....                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Jerry,
   Dropped the CD's in the mail on Weds. morning.  Let me know when they
arrive.

SEEYA!
  Amy

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From: AMY MOODY                              Number: 10958
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/20/94  5:46p
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello everyone,

  I have the following CD's that I would like to sell.

 1.  The Software Toolworks CD Deluxe Pack (3 Disks)
      Includes:
         21 Volume Multimedia Encyclopedia
         The San Diego Zoo Presents...The Animals
         U.S. Atlas
         World Atlas
         Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing
         ChessMaster 3000
      Comes with original 485 page manual.  $60.00

 2.  Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe        $20.00

 3.  Loom                                   $15.00

If interested in any or all, please leave me a note here or
 call 210-656-4090.

Amy

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From: SCOTT BRIGADE                          Number: 10959
  To: ROBERT HARRIS                            Date: 01/20/94  8:57a
Subj: Cd-s                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I have the following for trade or sale.
-> Secret of Monkey Island.

-> 7th Guest

How much for these 2?


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 10960
  To: CHAD HJELLE                              Date: 01/04/94  9:56a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM's for Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Could I please get copies of both of these files?  I can't FREQ files
-> the BBS that I use for Echomail, so could you please upload them to m
-> BBS.  The Hacker Central BBS (612) 796-2965. Login: Name Guest, Passw
-> Guest.  Upload from the main menu.  Thanks.

Hi Chad,
You may download these file from our BBS at 517-892-5042 (14.4) 8N1 if
you would like them. Unfortunately it would be a while coming before I
could call and upload them because of the backlog of orders for drives.
Thanks for asking!

Matt Bedtelyon
1:239/675


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From: WALT SPARLING                          Number: 10961
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/05/94 10:24p
Subj: NEC CDROM                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I need to find a number for NEC, to get software drivers for am older
NEC CDROM.  The numbers i the manula have been disconnected.

Any ideas?

Walt


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 10962
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 01/06/94  9:56a
Subj: CD 6-Pack                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> In your opinion, would you say that single drives would even be bette
-> Pioneer DMR604X?

Hi Chris,
Where ya been......
My vote goes whole heartedly to the single drive system. Pioneer makes a
GREAT unit for the dollars, but thats putting 6 eggs in a basket (if you
catch my drift). Dollar for dollar, you can get pretty close to the cost
of a 6 pak for a multi drive setup, and you WILL be happier, just
slightly poorer <g>.
Give me a call voice someday so we can chat!

Matt Bedtelyon
1:239/675


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 10963
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94 12:52p
Subj: Hitachi CD-ROM's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LOOKING FOR A GOOD REFURBISHED CD DRIVE?
Check it out, MEG*A*BITE now has 250 used HITACHI CDR 3600 players
These units are cleaned and tested by our trained staff and givin the
go ahead to put the MEG*A*BITE exclusive 30 day uncondtional Warranty
on them.
They are exceptionaly nice internal units that can be stacked and used
as external. Very nice and very clean!
Can be daisy chained up to eight units per card.
Features:
      *    Disk loading system using a CD Caddy.
      *    Advanced Access Time (450 msec).
      *    Audio playback circuit incorporated.
      *    Lens cleaning mechanism.
      *    Double caddy door to prevent dust.
      *    Manual Emergency Eject Mechanism.

There going fast, so give us a call and make your arrangments today...
VISA and Mastercard are gladly accepted!

Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE "Your CD-ROM drive headquarters!"
Voice   (517)892-5518
FAX     (517)892-5965
BBS     (517)892-5042
Fidonet   1:239/675
Internet  bedtelyo@cris.com


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 10964
  To: GREG COBB@1:123/434                      Date: 01/09/94 12:55a
Subj: Philips Driver                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Greg,
I am a Philips Distributor and can help you if you call me at
517-892-5518 voice during the day.
Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE "Your CD-ROM drive headquarters!"
Voice   (517)892-5518
FAX     (517)892-5965
BBS     (517)892-5042
Fidonet   1:239/675
Internet  bedtelyo@cris.com


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 10965
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/10/94  1:26p
Subj: Hitachi 3600's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÛÛ   ÛÛ ÞÛÛÝ ÛÛÛÛÛÛÛ ÜÛÛÛÛÛÜ ÜÛÛÛÛÛÜ ÛÛ   ÛÛ ÞÛÛÝ
ÛÛÜÜÜÛÛ  ÛÛ    ÞÛÝ   ÛÛÜÜÜÛÛ ÛÛ      ÛÛÜÜÜÛÛ  ÛÛ
ÛÛßßßÛÛ  ÛÛ    ÞÛÝ   ÛÛßßßÛÛ ÛÛ      ÛÛßßßÛÛ  ÛÛ
ÛÛ   ÛÛ ÞÛÛÝ   ÞÛÝ   ÛÛ   ÛÛ ßÛÛÛÛÛß ÛÛ   ÛÛ ÞÛÛÝ

   ÛÛÛÛÛÛÜ ÜÛÛÛÛÛÜ ÜÛÛÛÛÛÜ ÜÛÛÛÛÛÜ ÛÛ ÜÛÛÛÛÛÜ
     ÜÜÜÛÛ ÛÛÜÜÜÜ  ÛÛ  ÜÛÛ ÛÛ  ÜÛÛ ß  ÛÛÜÜÜÜ
     ßßßÛÛ ÛÛßßßÛÛ ÛÛÜß ÛÛ ÛÛÜß ÛÛ     ßßßßÛÛ
   ÛÛÛÛÛÛß ßÛÛÛÛÛß ßÛÛÛÛÛß ßÛÛÛÛÛß    ßÛÛÛÛÛß

If you are in the market for CD-ROM drives that are low
cost, daisy chainable up to eight (8) units on one card
and are warrantied for a full 30 days.........
MEG*A*BITE is pleased to announce that we made a large
purchase for over 600+ HITACHI 3600 CD-ROM readers.
These drives carry MEG*A*BITE's exclusive thirty day (30)
warranty that protects you from DOA's. External cabinets
are available for one, four and eight drive configurations.
The CDR-3600 drives have access speeds of 450 msec and a
transfer rate of 150 KBsec. These drives are HITACHI
quality through and through and will perform great in
personal and BBS usages. Now for the good news......

           Refurbished CDR-3600.......$99.00
           IF8 Interface Card.........$60.00
           Case's.....................$CALL$
           Custom made cables.........$CALL$

We accept VISA, MASTERCARD, CARTE BLANCHE and DINERS CLUB
with NO SURCHARGE! Immediate shipping via INSURED UPS!

Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE
Fido 1:239/675
Internet bedtelyo@cris.com
Voice    (517)892-5518
FAX      (517)892-5965
BBS      (517)892-5042 14.4 8N1





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From: TOM CAUSLEY                            Number: 10966
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/10/94  1:31p
Subj: Hitachi Externals                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We have upgraded our CD-ROM system to make available
4 Hitachi External CD-ROM readers, model CDR-1503S
for sale. These units are in excellent condition, and
I will warranty them for a period of 30 days.
I will separate the group for the following prices:
1503S drive...............$125.00ea
Cable..................... $12.00ea
I will ship to you via UPS (your cost) prepaid only!
If interested please call me....

Tom Causley
The Lighthouse BBS
Voice  (517)686-2422
BBS    (517)686-2013 14.4 8N1



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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 10967
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 01/12/94  8:16a
Subj: Lights Out                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What is a notice like this doing in this echo. BTW, its been
investigated in alot of states, and its FAKE!


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 10968
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94  8:36p
Subj: We don't Bite!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͸
       ³      CD-ROM's by MEG*A*BITE       ³
       ³ Specializing in Pre-Owned Drive's ³
       ³        for your BBS world!        ³
       ³  PHILIPS LMS, HITACHI, SONY, NEC  ³
       ³   PANASONIC, TEXEL and PIONEER!   ³
       ³   Fido 1:239/675 FREQ "DRIVES"    ³
       ³  "Your CD-ROM Drive Headquarters" ³
       ÆÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͵
       ³     Call today (517)892-5518      ³
       ³         FAX (517)892-5965         ³
       ³    We are a Philips LMS factory   ³
       ³        direct distributor!        ³
       ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ;


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 10969
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94 10:46p
Subj: We don't Bite....Hard!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͸
       ³      CD-ROM's by MEG*A*BITE       ³
       ³ Specializing in Pre-Owned Drive's ³
       ³        for your BBS world!        ³
       ³              $99.00               ³
       ³   Refurbished Hitachi CDR-3600    ³
       ³     30 day complete warranty!     ³
       ³  "Your CD-ROM Drive Headquarters" ³
       ÆÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͵
       ³     Call today (517)892-5518      ³
       ³         FAX (517)892-5965         ³
       ³    We are a Philips LMS factory   ³
       ³        direct distributor!        ³
       ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ;


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 10970
  To: DARREN JAGGERS                           Date: 01/16/94 10:57a
Subj: External CD-ROM's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Darren,
I have a friend who is selling 4 Hitachi CDR-1503S units with cables.
If interested, please call him:
Tom Causley
The Lighthouse BBS
Voice 517-686-2422
BBS   517-686-2013
Or you can NETMAIL him here at MEG*A*BITE
1:239/675


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 10971
  To: MICHAEL J. GENTRY                        Date: 01/16/94 11:05a
Subj: Wanted: CD-ROM Drive                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͸
       ³      CD-ROM's by MEG*A*BITE       ³
       ³ Specializing in Pre-Owned Drive's ³
       ³        for your BBS world!        ³
       ³              $99.00               ³
       ³   Refurbished Hitachi CDR-3600    ³
       ³     30 day complete warranty!     ³
       ³  "Your CD-ROM Drive Headquarters" ³
       ÆÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͵
       ³     Call today (517)892-5518      ³
       ³         FAX (517)892-5965         ³
       ³    We are a Philips LMS factory   ³
       ³        direct distributor!        ³
       ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ;

These would fit your needs! We accept VISA, MASTERCARD, Carte Blanche
and Diners Club! Multi drive discounts available too!


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 10972
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  5:37p
Subj: NEC 36 drives UNTESTED                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have about 50+ UNTESTED NEC Model 36 SCSI External CD-ROM readers.
These are whole units, and I will sell them for $20.00 each, AS IS
CONDITION ONLY.
Please contact at:
Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE "Your CD-ROM drive headquarters!"
Voice   (517)892-5518
FAX     (517)892-5965
BBS     (517)892-5042
Fidonet   1:239/675
Internet  bedtelyo@cris.com


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 10973
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  5:38p
Subj: We Don't Bite.......Hard!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͸
       ³      CD-ROM's by MEG*A*BITE       ³
       ³ Specializing in Pre-Owned Drive's ³
       ³        for your BBS world!        ³
       ³  PHILIPS LMS, HITACHI, SONY, NEC  ³
       ³   PANASONIC, TEXEL and PIONEER!   ³
       ³   Fido 1:239/675 FREQ "DRIVES"    ³
       ³  "Your CD-ROM Drive Headquarters" ³
       ÆÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͵
       ³     Call today (517)892-5518      ³
       ³         FAX (517)892-5965         ³
       ³    We are a Philips LMS factory   ³
       ³        direct distributor!        ³
       ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ;


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 10974
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  5:43p
Subj: Hitachi 3600 CD-ROMS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͸
       ³      CD-ROM's by MEG*A*BITE       ³
       ³ Specializing in Pre-Owned Drive's ³
       ³        for your BBS world!        ³
       ³              $99.00               ³
       ³   Refurbished Hitachi CDR-3600    ³
       ³     30 day complete warranty!     ³
       ³  "Your CD-ROM Drive Headquarters" ³
       ÆÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͵
       ³     Call today (517)892-5518      ³
       ³         FAX (517)892-5965         ³
       ³    We are a Philips LMS factory   ³
       ³        direct distributor!        ³
       ÆÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͵
       ³   VISA and MasterCard accepted!   ³
       ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ;


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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 10975
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/20/94 11:09a
Subj: CDs to SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Have the following cds that I would like to swap. Am interested in adult and
games.

MPC Wizard 2.0
ROMaterial
WIN CD Professional
Best of the Bureau (samples)
Wilsondisc - Readers' Guide Abstracts Select Edition
Shakespeare - The complete works
PC Magazine - Select Demos
Sing Along Classics - vol 1102
CD-ROM Premiere - Worlds First Totally Interactive CD rom Sampler
Battle Chess - Enhanced version

XXX Extreme


Roger

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10976
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 01/19/94  2:48p
Subj: WING COMMANDER DELUXE / W               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> >> This Cd I think is called Wing Commander 2 Deluxe with Secret Missions.

>Found it local for $18, but thanks for the reply Pat

 Figures - I don't currently have a distributor that carries the OEM version of
that title (which is what I'd BET you bought)....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10977
  To: EDDIE MONEY                              Date: 01/19/94  4:42p
Subj: FAO AND SHAREWARE                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> RO> Hobbes OS/2 Nov. 1992

>Bob is that a 1992 disk or 1993?

 I'm not Bob, but that's looks like the correct date for the year-old 1992
version.

>what do you want for it, if 1993?

 I sell the October 1993 version new for $14, shipping included if prepaid to
U.S. addresses.


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10978
  To: JIM NEUMILLER                            Date: 01/19/94  4:44p
Subj: FLIGHT SIMULATOR TOOLKIT                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Do any of you dealers out there have it yet?

 Not in stock, but the distributor I can get it from ships FAST (I ordered this
week on Monday, stuff showed up TUESDAY).

>I saw it in Software City for over $70....anyone do better???

 I can do it at $70 - currently list it for $79 but hadn't seen ANY other price
on it (except list)....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10979
  To: SCOTT RUBY                               Date: 01/20/94 11:19a
Subj: PRICE LIST PART 4 OF 4                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> BF> Where in World is Carmen Deluxe     85
> BF> Where World Carmen Deluxe (OEM)  24

>What's the difference in the OEM for $24 and th $85 version?

 Packaging, and the non-OEM version gives you a paperback copy of a World
Atlas/Almanac.


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10980
  To: BILL GREEN                               Date: 01/20/94 11:24a
Subj: SONY EXTERNAL CDROM FOR S               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>  One of 2 right - Sony tends to be reliable, but NEC and Pione
>> industry performance standards.

>Well Brice, I expressed my opinion and you expressed yours but I almost
forgot,
>you are the ultimate authority on *everything*, aren't you?

Nope - just AN authority on a lot of things.

 Sony has not set a CD-ROM industry standard since they and Phillips CREATED
CD-ROM and the original ROM drives. NEC has set several standards since then,
and Pioneer has set at LEAST a couple....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 10981
  To: DON KULHA                                Date: 01/20/94  2:22p
Subj: NEW....                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> BF>  And what about those of us dealers that don't HAVE FAX capabilities?

>    Brice, I resisted FAX machines for a long time.

 I'm not RESISTING - I just flat out don't have the ca$$$h - yet.


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 10982
  To: ROGER DAVIS                              Date: 01/22/94  7:40a
Subj: CDs to SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RD>Battle Chess - Enhanced version

Is Battle Chess a Windows or DOS cd disc.  If for DOS only I may have
something to trade.

Randy


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From: BURRELL LEATHERWOOD                    Number: 10983
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/22/94  3:31p
Subj: a new supply                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We just received a shipment of 'World of Xeen' CDs.  The package contains 2 CDs
(Clouds of Xeen & Darkside of Xeen), manual, and full color maps.

If you enjoy Might & Magic, then this 2 CD set is a must.

Price $69.95 + $9.50 S&H

Individually, these games go for $50.00plus.

Send check or money order to Midwest Midi & Associates
                             410 South 7th St.
                             Yukon, Oklahoma  73099.
                             (405) 354-2122

Burrell Leatherwood


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From: WILLIAM TYE                            Number: 10984
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/22/94  2:40p
Subj: Catalogs WANTED!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I see there are a few catalogs on here.  I would like to get some of these 
catalogs. So if you have one please sent me one to:



	William E. Tye, Jr.
	206 West Denison Street
	Waco, Texas 76706-5028




My age is 40.

This way I don't have to ask each of you to sent me one!

Thanks!


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From: DARREN CASTLEBERRY                     Number: 10985
  To: AMY MOODY                                Date: 01/22/94  1:56p
Subj: Re: Cd's for sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Amy Moody to All <=-

 AM> Hello everyone,

 AM> I have the following CD's that I would like to sell.

 AM> 1.  The Software Toolworks CD Deluxe Pack (3 Disks)
 AM> Includes:
 AM> 21 Volume Multimedia Encyclopedia
 AM> The San Diego Zoo Presents...The Animals
 AM> U.S. Atlas
 AM> World Atlas
 AM> Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing
 AM> ChessMaster 3000
 AM> Comes with original 485 page manual.  $60.00

 Hi, can you tell me....Is this DOS or MPC????

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From: DARREN CASTLEBERRY                     Number: 10986
  To: ROGER DAVIS                              Date: 01/22/94 11:33p
Subj: Re: CDs to SWAP                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Roger Davis to All <=-

 RD> XXX Extreme

Roger,
  How much are you asking for the above?
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From: DON ROBINSON                           Number: 10987
  To: DICK WALSH                               Date: 01/18/94  9:13p
Subj: Re: ADVERTISING                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

i agree.

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From: JIM NEUMILLER                          Number: 10988
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/23/94  3:01a
Subj: Re: FLIGHT SIMULATOR TOOLKIT            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Jim Neumiller <=-

 >Do any of you dealers out there have it yet?

 BF> Not in stock, but the distributor I can get it from ships FAST (I
 BF> ordered this week on Monday, stuff showed up TUESDAY).
 
 >I saw it in Software City for over $70....anyone do better???

 BF> I can do it at $70 - currently list it for $79 but hadn't seen ANY
 BF> other price on it (except list)....
 
Bruce,

Thanks for the reply....but if I can get it for 69.95 at Software City,
we'd be having to add shipping, handling and maybe even tax.  If this is
one of the new ones, I guess I'm going to have to pay the price...or
wait for it to get a little bit older and less desirable.

Jim


... CONSERVATIVE CREATIONS - Custom, 1 of a kind gifts - (407) 768-9936
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 10989
  To: CRAIG HIND                               Date: 01/24/94  2:15a
Subj: Re: New Night Owl                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 20 Jan 94 09:35pm, Craig Hind wrote to Boris Osadciw:

BO>>             N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E

BO>> * Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous Versions
  >> * All Zipped Files      * New Viewer     * 60% Files Released last 90 days

>>    Sorry to have to bring this up, but what about viri?  Are 
>>    there any in this version???

For an additional fee of $5.00 you can have 3 virus placed on the cd if
you'd like Craig !!



Boris Osadciw

... You cannot produce a baby in one month by impregnating nine women.
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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 10990
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/23/94  5:42p
Subj: Compton's Int Ency                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have compton's Interactive Encyclopedia for sale on CD.

This is version 1.01VW for thos interested in version numbers...

I have not opened the wrapping of it yet, but am very tempted to at
least try it out....  I will part with this for say $40 if you pre-pay.
If not, you pick up all P&H and COD charges in excess of $40.....


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: LAURA MUSSETTER                        Number: 10991
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/23/94  1:54p
Subj: Hot New CDROM Title!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

===========================================================================
 BBS: PC-Montana a PCBoard BBS  << Home of Big
Date: 01-12-94 (11:47)             Number: 13202
From: CHRIS SNYDER                 Refer#: NONE
  To: JASON DARPA                   Recvd: NO
Subj: Cd-Rom                         Conf: (181) CDROM_SALE
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CS>Sony CDU-31A internal CD-Rom drive. 300ms 150kb transfer rate.
CS>1 year old in excellent condition.

CS>$125 or best offer.

CS>Cables included.

CS>  SMRead 3.3  #?
CS>--- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3
CS> * Origin: The Outer-Limits/Planet Connect System (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70)

 * OLX 2.1 TD * Wherever you go - there you are!
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From: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                       Number: 10992
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/23/94 10:46a
Subj: Hitachi CD ROMS model 3500 for Sale     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

I have 11 Hitachi CD ROM readers model 3500 for sale.  Some work
and some have trouble, all of them should be refurbished (I
cannot make any garantees on these).  I will let them go for $45
each.  I also have 3 external cases with power supplies and
cables for $50 each.  I have 3 controller cards for $50 each,
they will drive 4 cds.  If interested call me voice at
619-789-2603, or send me netmail at 1:202/1903.  I will deal on
the whole works! ...Jeff...

 * WCE 1.5/2020 * Poured spot remover on my dog, now he's gone


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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 10993
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/23/94  8:46p
Subj: Paradox Shareware CDROM                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Here are the file counts for EMS Prof. Shareware's 12-93 CD-ROM
of Paradox shareware. $59.50. Voice:+1(301)924-3594
Fax:+1(301)963-2708. 4505 Buckhurst Ct., Olney MD 20832-1830

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Barcode             1  Benchmarking        1  Browse              4
Bug Fix             1  Buttons             2  Clones              2
Communication       8  Configuration       4  Converter          11
Crosstab            2  Data Compression    1  Data Dictionary     4
Data Entry          7  Date               12  DDE                 2
Debugger            5  Dialog Box         18  Directory          18
Documentor         28  Duplicate           1  Editor              6
Editor Support     11  Error Handler       2  Export/Import      10
File Management     1  Finance             4  Forms              11
Games               2  Graphics            9  Hardware Info.      3
Help                7  Index               5  Information         9
Interface           6  Library             8  MailMerge           1
Math                9  Memo Fields         7  Memory              2
Menu               18  Misc.              59  Network            10
PAL Extension       5  PdoxWin            50  Pick List           3
Printer Control     8  Program Generator   3  Progress            4
PXEngine           17  Query               5  Record Move         3
Reference          25  Repair              5  Report             28
Runtime             1  Screen Control     16  Search              6
Security            6  Setkey              3  Sound               6
Soundex             2  Speedbar            4  SQL                 6
String Function    18  Structure          15  Table Packing       1
Tabulation          1  Text Editing        1  Translator          3
Tutorial           18  User Interface     10  Validation         11
Video               2  Windows             4  Workspace          13
Zipcode etc.        3
Total Files in Library:  655


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From: MIKE BOULTER                           Number: 10994
  To: ANDRE CARRIERE                           Date: 01/23/94 12:59p
Subj: Cdrom dealer           01               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> CDROM TITLE        TOTAL ORDER QUANTITY:    1-2    3-4    5-7    8+

etc etc..

please give me a list of adult titles that are BBS ready.   I want to buy
anywhere from 12-18 of them.


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From: MIKE BOULTER                           Number: 10995
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 01/23/94  1:05p
Subj: Adult cd's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->                 ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
->                 ³                                          ³
->                 ³   These discs contain ADULT material!    ³
->                 ³        FOR SALE TO ADULTS ONLY!          ³
->                 ³                                          ³
->                 ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ
->
-> AMATUER MODELS (X)  - - - $25.00

[etc...etc]

Which of these discs are BBS ready?  I'm looking for a dozen or more good
titles.


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From: TONY WHITE                             Number: 10996
  To: *.*                                      Date: 01/24/94  3:27p
Subj: Adult CD-ROMs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following adult CD-ROM titles for sale for $25 each:

        Busty Babes Volume 1
        Digital Dreams Volume 2
        FAO Gold
        Hot Pix Volume 3
        Hot Pix Volume 4
        Hot Pix Volume 5
        Southern Beauties

Take all seven for $150, including shipping.  Otherwise, prices do
not include shipping.

Must be 18 or over, and provide proof of age with prepayment.

You may call me at (214) 259-1248 voice or (214) 251-2286 data.
Or, you may reply here.  Thank you.

-TWhite

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From: TONY WHITE                             Number: 10997
  To: *.*                                      Date: 01/24/94  3:33p
Subj: Dead CD-ROMs                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following NON-FUNCTIONAL CD-ROM drives for sale:

2 ea.   Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM drives.  Guaranteed
        flaky.  Laser assemblies weak, but all other
        electronics are good.  Repair a fried one?      $ 25 ea.

NO WARRANTY EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED.

You may call me voice at (214) 259-1248 or data at (214) 251-2286.
Or, you may reply here.  Thank you.

-TWhite

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 10998
  To: AUDIE VICKERS                            Date: 01/24/94 12:46p
Subj: Re: Flame? anybody seen i               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <01-20-94 08:53> Audie Vickers wrote:

AV>> Hey, wait a minute, Lee.  I'm STILL going through BBII shareware,
AV>> yes, it does keep me entertained ( not so much as the BBs though...
AV>> So my vote: unless you can figure a way to tack the dead space on
AV>> the end of my hard drive, I'd rather it be filled with something.

Ya know, that's what we thought when we did it, and the blast of
'Un-appreciation' has been nasty--SO we have stopped collecting it, Im glad you
have at least enjoyed it :)

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 10999
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 01/24/94 12:54p
Subj: Re: Flame? anybody seen it??            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <01-20-94 05:02> Dave Reed wrote:

DR>> So, you're admitting that you are attempting to circumvent the laws
DR>> of overseas countries?  That was "Busty Babes," right?

That is *NOT* what I am saying--I am saying, that 'Busty Babes Vol I' has been
flagged at the borders, and the mere that fact there is a 'Busty Babes Vol II,
they would be more inclined to confiscate it believing it was a spinoff of the
first disc, which it *IS* not....but the name alone could suggest this--

Why would you even question if I was attempting circumvent the laws overseas ?
Explain.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: JOHN RUSK                              Number: 11000
  To: JOE REINHART                             Date: 01/25/94  8:32p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Could I get a copy of your catalog?

John Rusk
1011 Williamson St.
Killeen, TX 76541


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From: JOHN RUSK                              Number: 11001
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/25/94  8:44p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey Joe, do you have any 50 pin SCSI drives?
I think I spelled your name wrong in the other message, so could you send me a
catalog?

John Rusk
1011 Williamson St.
Killeen, TX 76541

Thanks


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From: BILL ODOM                              Number: 11002
  To: G. LARRY WEBB                            Date: 01/19/94  7:32a
Subj: BOOKSHELF/ENCARTA                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

larry i am interested please let me know where to send the check
or call me at 602 825 1713


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From: BILL ODOM                              Number: 11003
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/19/94  7:41a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1 OF 5                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



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From: BILL ODOM                              Number: 11004
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 01/25/94 12:51a
Subj: % CD-ROM Disks                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

these sell in the stores for $9.00 NEW !!!!
whats the $13 for??


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From: BARRY CUNNINGHAM                       Number: 11005
  To: SUSAN PHILLIPS                           Date: 01/25/94  8:01p
Subj: Hi There                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Sue,
How are things 


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From: BARRY CUNNINGHAM                       Number: 11006
  To: JSRPHILL@SCIBORG.UWATERLOO.CA            Date: 01/25/94  8:03p
Subj: Hi there                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Sue,
       This is me trying to say hello to you across the miles







                                                       BAC DC 


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From: HERB ZWIRN                             Number: 11007
  To: ROBERT CHAN                              Date: 01/25/94  1:12p
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE 4 SALE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RC> Yep, I've got the card with the additional plug, and all of the cables
 RC>to hook it to your SB-Pro or SB-16.  I think I even still have the
 RC>original box it came in.  It's a great unit, but it's going to be
 RC>replaced with a triple-speed one.
 
 Sorry, but I intercepted this, pls tell me about ur CD Rom Drive. Is it
 double speed?
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From: MATT PERRY                             Number: 11008
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/25/94 12:46p
Subj: !Free CD catalog!!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Joe are you still giving away the free cd catalogs cause if you are I would
really like one

Matt Perry
Box 552 RR#1
Manotick, On Canada
K4M-1B2

                                Thanx alot !


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From: GARY GROLEAU                           Number: 11009
  To: JULIE STRIETELMEIER                      Date: 01/25/94 11:25p
Subj: Adult cdroms                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Julie hold old are these cd's and what is the name of the software. I'm just
setting up a 6 disk cdrom drive and may be interested. You can netmail here on
fidonet at 1:322/547or leave a message here.
               gary

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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 11010
  To: NATHAN MOSCHKIN                          Date: 01/25/94  5:15p
Subj: Re: Test                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Nathan Moschkin to All <=-

 NM> What e'er cometh thine way

Well,let's see......NOt one @#$%% thing!!!!
                                C-Ya,Chip Slate



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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 11011
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 01/25/94  6:06p
Subj: Re: Oem                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

THANKS!!!                C_Ya,Chip Slate


... Reality-ometer:  [\........]  Hmmph!  Thought so...
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From: CJ JASKIEWICZ                          Number: 11012
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 01/26/94  2:17p
Subj: * CD-ROM Disks for SALE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: * CD-ROM Disks for SALE
BY: Gene Ehrich on Sat Jan 22 1994 10:06 am

Gene I saw about a week ago you had a cd for corel art show 3, just wondering
if you still had it? If so, will you be willing to take 15.00 for it and i'll
pick up the shipping?, please let me know either way thanks, C.J.
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From: CJ JASKIEWICZ                          Number: 11013
  To: MIKE GERVASI                             Date: 01/26/94  2:23p
Subj: national parks on cd                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: Storm I,ii,ii + Ecstasy H
BY: Mike Gervasi to Diana Kirksey on Thu Jan 20 1994 03:11 am

Mike I seen an ad last week that you had a national parks cd, Just was
wondering how much your asking for it....or do you have it just for trade?
please let me know. Thanks  C.J.
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From: MICHAEL GUIDRY                         Number: 11014
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/26/94  7:15p
Subj: Travel & Map Cd's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone have any recommendations/reviews/flames on travel or vacation
planning cd's?

Specifically, I'm planning on taking the family up to the Rockies sometime
this year and am looking for up-to-date info on roads, places to stay and
places to see.

Thanks.

Mike

... I yam Popeye of the Borg. Prepares ta beez askimiligrated
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From: JAMES CLEVENGER                        Number: 11015
  To: STEVE KENNEDY                            Date: 01/25/94 11:40p
Subj: Re: 3DO?                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: MIDI
 
Okay, great, I see that you are already on the track there!
 
RE: Scheduled date for Sanyo 3D0
 
I haven't heard anything more on this.  I did hear that the SEGA Saturn is
going to hit the market in Fall 1994.  Reported specs (if true) will probably
bury the 3D0 before it has much of a chance to take off.  But, 3D0 is still a
big wildcard.
 
The big news right now is the big crossover of PC game/console game design
companies.  Titles are being ported from one machine over to another.  I got a
report that Electronic Arts was going to start making titles for the Commodore
CD32, which will begin a major rollout in the US in March 1994.  I have also
heard the first big press releases from CES, one of which indicates that the
super-popular IBM PC game title called DOOM is now in development for the Atari
Jaguar game console.  
It now appears that at least some PC writers are moving toward the game
consoles, even the cartridge based "kiddie" consoles like the Sega and Jaguar.
 
What I would say now is to hold off on purchasing any more game console
software until you're really sure which system (or systems) you're going to
buy.  Really, there are so many manufacturers jumping into the fray that there
could be a major shake out of the whole video game market, leaving a lot of
orphaned systems that receive no support.


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11016
  To: DOUG ROBINSON                            Date: 01/25/94 12:16a
Subj: ANYONE GOT ANY ADULT FOR                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DR:>Anyone got any adult CD Roms for sale?  Respond with price and title.

Doug,

Here are the titles we currently offer:

 Amateur Models................25.00    Girls of Mardi Gras (New!)....39.50
 American Girls (New!).........31.40    High Volume Nudes.............31.40
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......29.00    L.A. Strippers (Movie)........39.50
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......48.00    Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......29.80
 Digital Dreams 1..............25.30    Photo Gallery.................34.60
 Digital Dreams 2 (New!).......25.30    Southern Beauties.............26.60
 Digital Dreams 2-Pak..........49.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....25.00
 Giffy Gold....................29.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....21.70

                 - Prices subject to change without notice -
    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 ORDERS...............509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 FAX/INFO/ORDERS......509-457-2966..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 400+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11017
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 01/25/94 12:16a
Subj: Mail                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KM:>KM:>>Busty Babies 1 "the original version"
KM:>KM:>>75 dollars, price includes 2nd mail shipping!

KM:>>     You might want to send that UPS instead of US Mail.

KM:>Thanks Mike, As I posted  in my message above, I never mentioned "US" mail,

OK, no prob.  It just sounded like you were referring to the Postal
Service's 2nd-Day Priority Mail shipping.  I usually associate the word
"mail" with the Postal Service.

KM:>BTW, I'm really looking forward to your new and improved catalog. Can't
KM:>imagine how it can get any better than it aready is though.. I upload it
KM:>to the BBS's around this area, That files seems to get downloaded alot
too..
KM:>Please post when it is ready to be downloaded from your BBS!

It's ready now Ken.  Come and get 'er!!

Thanks,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.00


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11018
  To: DOUG HUNKELE                             Date: 01/25/94 12:16a
Subj: ADULT CD-ROM PRICES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DH:>  are any of the listed ADULT CD's copyrighted simular to BB II????

The ones that are licensed and copyrighted *that I know of* are: Busty
Babes vol 2, Giffy Gold, Southern Beauties, Amateur Models, American
Girls, High Volume Nudes, Photo Gallery, and of course the "R" movies
like L.A. Strippers, Digital Dancing, etc.  I'm sure I've left a few out
that perhaps Ms. Noga and a few others could comment on.

Hope that helps,
.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11019
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 01/25/94 12:16a
Subj: NEW NIGHT OWL                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DR:>Hey... I've been working on putting together that FidoNet mailer for you.
Wh
DR:>do you want...  FrontDoor or BinkleyTerm?  You're getting BinkleyTerm.

In that case I'll choose Binkleyterm. 8)

.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11020
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 01/25/94 12:17a
Subj: Penthouse Interactive                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FG:>Mike, curious if you, or any of the other dealers in this conference
FG:>will be carrying any of the Penthouse Interactive CD's.  From the

Don't have too many details yet, but if they're not too kinky we probably
will.  8)

Later,
.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11021
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/25/94 12:17a
Subj: FIREARMS REFERENCE: $19                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |   Title:  FIREARMS REFERENCE  |  |     $19.00      |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

     This CD-ROM is intended to be both a reference and an entertaining
     diversion for the computer enthusiast who is interested in guns of
     all types.  What's more . . . it can be used on a BBS!

     * Features over 600 products
     * 70 different manufacturers
     * 256-color hi-rez images
     * BBS-Ready in several formats
     * Custom-designed Super-VGA interface
     * Covers every firearm from black powder rifles, to Class 3 weapons
     * Even covers crossbows, optics, and ammo!

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 ORDERS...............509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 FAX/INFO/ORDERS......509-457-2966..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 400+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * It's Ensign Pillsbury....he's bread Jim.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11022
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/25/94 12:17a
Subj: HOTTEST NEW SHAREWARE CD!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |     Title:  CD POWERBOX 2     |  |     $25.60      |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

      ** IT'S HERE! **  And be sure to check our great bonus paks below!
      ** BBS file support for Spitfire, PCBoard, Wildcat and others!

      The nicest BBS-ready shareware CD on the market has arrived!
      CD Powerbox 2.00 is a shareware disc featuring 600 Megs worth
      of brand new, PURE 1993 shareware files, with one HUGE difference!
      It contains Damar's new UNVIVERSAL INTERFACE or UI.  The UI offers
      the ability to manage most or all of your shareware CD's, without
      the hassle of always changing interfaces!  Here are some of its
      outstanding and unique features............................

      * Automatic installation of shareware disks
      * Support for over 15 different disks
      * New titles being added constantly!
      * Add or Remove titles with the click of the mouse button
      * Windows or DOS-based with Rich context-sensitive online help
      * Windows interface supports voice commands!
      * Quick and easy search feature to find specific programs
      * Copy an archive to your hard drive or install it directly off a CD!
      * View inside an archive right off the ROM!

      The UI is a commercial program and is NOT considered shareware.
      There is no cost for the UI when purchased with any of the Damar
      Enterprises CD-ROM products!

      The % of dupes between PowerBox2 and NOWL10 = 7.94% * PIER3 = 12.85%

 File dates.....    1993  File   %    Apx 'K'    %
                    ====  ==== =====  ======== =====
                       1   362  6.7%    24,601  4.1%   +------------------+
                       2   435  8.0%    33,095  5.5%   | Over 500 more    |
+------------------+   3   661 12.2%    53,387  8.8%   | files than Night |
| File listing     |   4   371  6.8%    33,852  5.6%   | Owl 10!          |
| available on the |   5   245  4.5%    22,427  3.7%   +------------------+
| Starvector BBS:  |   6    93  1.7%    10,369  1.7%
| 509-457-0206     |   7   852 15.7%   116,232 19.3%
+------------------+   8 2,162 39.7%   283,195 46.9%
                       9    24  0.4%     2,431  0.4%
                      10    67  1.2%    11,283  1.9%
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11023
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/25/94 12:18a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11 NOW SHIPPING               Refer: NONE
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            ____________________________________________________
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           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
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           |     Title:  NIGHT OWL 11      |  |     $29.90      |
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                             >>> IT'S HERE! <<<

     What more can be said about this shareware CD?  Controversial?  Yes,
     but always among the very "upper echelon" in the shareware field,
     with some of the most recent files available, and full bulletin board
     compatiblity.  Get 'em while they're hot, and check out some of these
     great package deals too!

     * Night Owl 10.1 + 11...........(All '93 + No Dupes!)..........$49
     * Night Owl 9 + 10.1 + 11.......(All '93 + No Dupes!)..........$69
     * Night Owl 8 + 9 + 10.1 + 11.........(No Dupes!)..............$85
     * Night Owl 11 + Pier 3........................................$49
     * Night Owl 11 + Pier 3 + CD Powerbox 2........................$69

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11024
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/26/94 12:43a
Subj: NEW LOWER CD PRICE$ PT 1                Refer: NONE
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities................ 9.80    Microsoft Cinemania 1993 MPC..52.00
 14,000 Programs (NEW).........14.60    Microsoft Cinemania 1994 MPC..59.00
 16-Bit Sound Masterpiece......14.30    Microsoft Golf MPC............48.50
 20th Century People...........21.90    Microsoft Works MPC...........38.50
 20th Century Sports...........21.90    Middle East Diary.............34.00
 20th Century Video Almanac....21.90    MIDI & Wave Workshop (NEW)....15.90
 3D Animania (NEW).............14.30    MIDI Music Shop...............23.70
 7th Guest OEM (In stock!).....37.90    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........18.90
 7th Guest w/ Video............48.80    Modblaster MOD Files (NEW)....16.10
 9-Digit Zip Code Guide........23.50    Monarch Notes.................48.00
 9000 Sounds...................23.40    Monster Media 93 vol 2........26.30
 A.S.P. Shareware..............18.90    Mother Earth 2................27.90
 Action Traveler (NEW).........29.00    MPC Wizard for Windows vol 2..14.30
 Adventures in Heaven (NEW)....15.80    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....15.80
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...21.90    Multimedia Magic Collection...14.30
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........34.00    MVP Game Jamboree (NEW).......11.30
 American Business Phonebk 91..15.00    National Geographic Mammals...22.70
 American Business Phonebk 93..20.30    National Parks................24.90
 Aminet Amiga..................14.40    Nature Graphics (NEW).........25.00
 Anecdotes 1...................11.30    Newsweek Interactive (NEW)....23.40
 Anecdotes 2...................11.30    Night Owl 6.2.................15.90
 Anecdotes 3...................11.30    Night Owl 7.0.................15.90
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......15.70    Night Owl 8.0.................15.90
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....20.40    Night Owl 9.0.................23.40
 Arizona Images................18.90    Night Owl 10.1................23.80
 Art History Encyclopedia......17.40    Night Owl 11.0 (NEW)..........29.90
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......26.50    Night Owl Business............20.40
 Audubon's Birds...............15.50    Night Owl Games...............23.50
 Audubon's Mammals.............20.60    Night Owl Graphics............26.40
 Battle Chess..................23.40    Night Owl Windows (NEW).......18.90
 Beauty and the Beast..........18.90    North American Fax Book.......27.90
 Best of Microprose............23.40    North American Indians........27.90
 Beyond the Wall of Stars......20.60    Oceans Below (NEW)............20.50
 Bible Library.................26.40    Officer's Bookcase............29.50
 Bibles & Religion.............11.30    OS/2Box.......................20.00
 Britannica Family Choice......22.00    Otherware (Mac/Amiga S/W).....22.00
 Britannica Select Software....22.00    Our Solar System..............12.00
 Business Assistant............ 9.80    PC Karaoke w/ Microphone......65.00
 Business Master...............18.90    PC Paramedic (NEW)............18.00
 C User's Group Library........26.70    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....15.90
 Canadian Shareware............18.90    PC-SIG 11.1...................10.60
 Career Opportunities..........15.80    PC-SIG 13 (NEW)...............24.90
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....21.90    PC-SIG Windows................15.90
 CD Powerbox ($6 w/ any order).13.20    PC-SIG World of Utilities.....15.90
 CD Powerbox 2 (NEW..All 93!)..25.60    PC-SIG World of Education.....15.90
 CD Winbox 1.01................16.10    Pentomino.....................23.00
 CD-ROM of CD-ROMs ($9 w/ ord).19.00    Peter and the Wolf............18.90
 Chessmaster 3000..............23.40    Phoenix 4.0...................15.90
 CIA World Fact Book...........12.80    Phoenix Phun & Games..........14.00
 Clipart + Graphics Tools......20.40    Phonedisc USA.................69.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........14.30    Photo CD Demo (NEW)...........14.30
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.10    Pier 2........................19.30
 Clipart Heaven................15.90    Pier 3........................24.00
 Clipart Warehouse (NEW).......11.30    Pier 4 (Pre-orders)...........29.00
 Color Magic Clipart (NEW).....23.40    Pinacotheca Multimedia........20.40
 Colossal Cookbook.............12.00    Pixel Garden..................29.50
 Communication Master (NEW)....14.30    Pixel Perfect Graphics........26.20
 Companion for OS/2 (NEW)......18.90    Plant Doctor..................29.50
 Companion for Windows (NEW)...18.90    Playing w/ Language: English..23.40
 Companion for WordPerfect.....18.90    Playing w/ Language: French...23.40
 Complete Bookshop.............12.00    Playing w/ Language: German...23.40
 Composer Quest................32.50    Playing w/ Language: Japanese.23.40

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11025
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 01/26/94 12:43a
Subj: ADULT CD-ROM PRICES                     Refer: NONE
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SF:>MS> Amateur Models................25.00    Girls of Mardi Gras
(New!)....39.
SF:>MS> American Girls (New!).........31.40    High Volume
Nudes.............31.
SF:>MS> Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......29.00    L.A. Strippers
(Movie)........39.
SF:>MS> Digital Dancing (Movie).......48.00    Lovely Ladies
(Swimsuit)......29.
SF:>MS> Digital Dreams 1..............23.30    Photo
Gallery.................34.
SF:>MS> Digital Dreams 2 (New!).......25.30    Southern
Beauties.............26.
SF:>MS> Digital Dreams 2-Pak..........45.00    Swimwear 1993
(BBS-Ready!)....25.
SF:>MS> Giffy Gold....................29.00    Women of Venus
(Swimsuit).....21.

SF:>MS> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892
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SF:>MS> VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc
over

SF:>        How good is a disc called So Much Stareware?

I don't sell them, but I believe Bob Jackson's review of that CD leaned a
bit toward the unfavorable side.  If I remember, he said it had some images
of "questionable" origin, meaning they could be copyright violations of
some sort.  As for the image quality, I think he said it was fair.

Later,
.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11026
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/26/94 12:43a
Subj: NEW LOWER CD PRICE$ PT 2                Refer: NONE
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 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....50.60    Playing w/ Language: Spanish..23.40
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....50.60    Precision Mapping.............67.20
 Computer Reference Library....12.00    Prescription Drugs............27.00
 Conan the Cimmerian...........23.50    Profiles of Colleges..........28.50
 Consumer Information Disc.....29.40    Project Gutenberg.............18.40
 Cookbook Heaven...............15.90    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak 4th Qtr..109.00
 CorelDraw 3.0.................68.70    ProPhone 1993 Business........20.40
 Cream of the Crop 2 (NEW).....25.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........34.00
 Cybergenic Ranger.............12.80    Publish-It 2.0................23.40
 Dagger of Amon Ra.............27.90    Publisher's Dream Disc........29.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........23.40    Publisher's Paradise..........21.90
 Dare, Bluff, or Die (NEW).....27.90    Publisher's Paradise Pro......35.10
 Day of the Tentacle...........44.50    Publisher's Powerhouse (NEW)..23.30
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......12.00    Puzzlemania (NEW).............14.30
 Desert Storm..................23.50    Q&A 4.0.......................35.00
 Desktop Bookshop..............14.30    QRZ Ham Radio.................14.30
 Destination Mars (NEW)........22.00    Reel Clips....................25.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......12.00    Reference Library ............19.60
 Dictionary of Living World....32.50    Return to Zork................50.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............26.30    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...34.00
 Dinosaurs!....................27.90    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....23.30
 Doctor's Book: Home Remedies..24.90    Scrabble Deluxe (NEW).........34.00
 Dr. Games.....................18.90    Secret of Monkey Island.......21.90
 Dr. Music.....................18.90    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...21.90
 Dr. Shareware.................18.90    SFX...........................17.40
 Dr. Windows...................18.90    Shakespeare...................12.80
 DTPro.........................21.80    Shareware 1993 vol 2..........17.40
 Dune..........................39.00    Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......46.10
 Ecoquest......................26.50    Shareware Online 1............18.90
 Education Master..............18.90    Shareware Online 2............24.90
 Electronic Cookbook...........23.60    Shareware Overload............12.00
 Electronic Home Library.......21.90    Shareware Overload Trio (NEW).21.90
 Electronic Library of Art.....34.00    Shareware Studio 2............15.90
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........12.00    Shareware Studio 3............17.40
 European Monarchs.............34.00    Sherlock Holmes...............14.30
 Family Doctor DOS.............15.10    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...19.00
 Family Doctor MPC.............22.70    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...49.00
 Firearms Reference............19.00    Sights & Sounds...............22.50
 Font Master 1.................12.90    Simtel 20.....................14.30
 Font Master 2.................18.90    Sleeping Beauty...............18.90
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Screenware............27.50
 Fractunes.....................30.00    So Much Shareware 2...........15.90
 Fresh Arte....................34.00    So Much Shareware 3...........23.50
 Funny.........................33.00    So Much Space (NEW)...........18.90
 Game Arena.................... 9.80    Software Vault 1..............12.80
 Game Master...................18.90    Software Vault 2..............12.80
 Game Pack 3 (NEW).............23.40    Software Vault Gold...........19.90
 Games 1993....................23.40    Solar Heaven (NEW)............15.90
 Games Collection (90% 1993!)..20.00    Sound Effects Library.........19.00
 Games Platinum (NEW)..........18.90    Sound Sensations..............12.00
 Gameware Collection...........21.80    Sound Works...................18.80
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............14.30    Soundware Collection..........19.00
 Gardening (NEW)...............12.00    SoundWAV......................19.10
 GIF Galaxy (NEW)..............24.00    Source CD-ROM.................18.90
 GIF's Galore 9/93.............14.30    Space & Astronomy (NEW).......19.00
 Giga Games....................18.90    Space Adventure...............27.90
 Global Explorer...............89.20    Space Quest IV................19.00
 Golden Immortal...............24.70    Space Shuttle (NEW)...........24.90
 Grammy Awards.................34.00    Space Time and Art (NEW)......26.30
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........24.00    Star Trek Collectibles........59.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........24.00    Star Wars Chess (NEW).........31.00
 Great Wonders of the World....31.00    Stellar 7.....................18.80

                 - Prices subject to change without notice -
    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11027
  To: IAN SINGER                               Date: 01/26/94 12:43a
Subj: 3 NEW WAYS TO PAY!                      Refer: NONE
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IS:>Are you handling the check by phone from Canada?

Only if it is from a U.S. Bank.

IS:>Did you receive my messaage about the lost CD?

Did indeed, and glad to hear it finally arrived.  All shipments to
California have been spotty lately.

Take care,
.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11028
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/26/94 12:44a
Subj: NEW LOWER CD PRICE$ PT 3                Refer: NONE
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 Grolier's MPC Ency 6.0 (NEW)..43.10    Straight from Heaven (NEW)....15.90
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...15.90    Street Atlas USA v2...........93.70
 Guinness Disc of Records 93...24.90    STW Illustrated Encyclopedia..34.00
 Guy Spy.......................23.50    STW Multimedia Encyclopedia...44.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............29.00    STW MPC Encyclopedia..........44.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................12.00    Super Games for DOS...........10.00
 Ham Radio/Scanner Companion...18.90    Super Games for Windows 1.....10.00
 Hamware 1993..................18.90    Super Games for Windows 2.....10.00
 Health & Medical Directory....19.20    Tech Arsenal..................20.50
 Hobbes OS/2 10/93.............14.30    Technotools...................11.30
 Hollywood the Bizarre (NEW)...39.50    Tempra Access Photo Software..12.90
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..19.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......29.50
 Home Designer (NEW)...........29.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...21.90
 Home/Office Legal Guide.......12.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...23.50
 Horror & Sci-Fi Films (NEW)...39.50    Timetable of Business/Politic.23.50
 Hot Women Hot Cars (NEW)......14.30    Timetable of History/Science..21.90
 House of Games................14.30    Too Many Typefonts............12.00
 Hugo's House of Horrors (NEW).11.30    Total Baseball 1992...........20.30
 Images of NASA (NEW)..........21.90    Total Baseball 1993...........24.90
 Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00    Total Heart by Mayo Clinic....49.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......20.50    Trump Castle..................23.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......20.50    U.S./World Atlas MPC..........19.00
 Interactive Story Time 3......29.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................18.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.18.90    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........23.40
 Int'l Graphics Library........27.50    U.S. History..................18.10
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....29.00    U.S. Presidents...............29.50
 Jets & Props..................21.10    U.S. Wars: Civil War..........31.00
 Jewel Cases...................  .95    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......31.00
 Jokes & Pranks................ 9.80    U.S. Wars: Korea..............31.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........16.20    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............31.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............32.50    U.S. Wars: WWII...............31.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........27.90    USA Today: The 90's (NEW).....26.60
 King's Quest V................19.60    VGA Spectrum 1................ 8.30
 King's Quest VI (Retail Box)..34.00    VGA Spectrum 2................15.90
 Klotski.......................13.60    Video Movie Guide (NEW).......28.50
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........13.20    Virtual 3D (w/ glasses!)......22.00
 La Coleccion (Spanish S/W)....19.50    Virtual Reality Starter Kit...49.00
 Lan Master....................25.00    Wave Pool (NEW)...............14.30
 Language Discovery (NEW)......19.00    Who Killed Sam Rupert.........21.90
 Languages of the World........37.00    Wild Places...................19.20
 Learning Adventure............ 9.80    Wildcat Gold..................15.80
 Learning Heaven...............15.90    Win Platinum..................17.40
 Library of the Future #1......39.00    Window Master.................18.90
 Libris Britannia..............32.50    Windoware.....................12.00
 Linux/GNU/X...................27.00    Windows 1993..................23.30
 Loom..........................19.00    Windows Collection (NEW)......20.00
 Mac Multimedia Space..........27.90    Wing Commander 2 Deluxe.......39.30
 Mac Shareware.................18.70    Wing Commander 2/Ultima U.W...41.50
 MacMillan Dictionary..........29.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.80
 Macromind Action..............32.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......23.50
 Mad Dog McCree................39.00    World Atlas MPC ..............18.00
 Mailer's Lookup (NEW).........24.30    World Fact Book M/M...........17.20
 Majestic Places...............33.60    World of Flight...............27.90
 Mantis........................15.90    World of Trains...............27.90
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..23.50    World Traveler................12.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...21.90    World View....................19.10
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............21.80    World Vision 3-Pak............39.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf 1992 MPC..32.50    Wrath of the Demon............20.80
 Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..46.10    X11R5/GNU.....................23.40

                 - Prices subject to change without notice -
    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 ORDERS...............509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 FAX/INFO/ORDERS......509-457-2966..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 400+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: JAMES POLLOCK                          Number: 11029
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 01/25/94  1:47a
Subj: Re: Giffy Gold for a shar               Refer: NONE
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 -=> Quoting Randy Neuner to All <=-

 RN> Want to trade Giffy Gold for a recent (1993) shareware disc that is
 RN> bbs ready.  Giffy Gold is an adult disc.

 RN> Randy

Randy, I've got an SDN1 disc from Profit Press.  It might be a little older
than you'd like, but I've also got a Software Vault disc on loan to somebody.
I KNOW that's older than you'd like, but if the two of these are good, I'll
give up two for one...



... My other computer is a VAX.
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From: TOM COTTON                             Number: 11030
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/26/94  8:53a
Subj: Genealogy CD's                          Refer: NONE
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Does anyone have GRS genealogy CD's they would like to sell.?  I use 
them for genealogy research as our library is extremely limited. TC 
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ People say I'm indecisive.  Am I?  I don't know. 
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From: TOM COTTON                             Number: 11031
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/26/94  8:56a
Subj: Genealogy CD's Wanted                   Refer: NONE
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Does anyone have GRS CD's they would like to sell.  I use them for 
research since our library is so limited. Thanks TC 
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Dogs come when you call. Cats have answering machines. 
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 11032
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/26/94 11:21p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
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 Hitachi cd rom drives model 3600 (that's right model 3600) $99 each.
 Access time 350 ms.  Transfer rate 150 kb/s.  These EXCELLENT drives
 can be daisy-chained up to  8  on each propitiatory controller card.

 They can use the same controller cards that  are  used  with  the
 model 3500's.  If you don't  already  have  an  interface  card I
 have them NEW for $60.         I also have:
 Caddies                         $  5   each.
 External cases  for 4 drives    $ 20
 External cases  for 8 drives    $ 30
 Cables for 4 or 8 drives        $ 10
 Power supplies. (110/220)       $ 25
 Shipping   aprox.                       $    4      each   drive.

 30 day warranty.        All domestic orders are shipped    c.o.d.

 Total for an 8  drive  setup  assembled  in  case  with  p/s  and
 interface,  cables,  caddies,  ready  to  plug  in  and   play...
 including shipping c.o.d. (A $1,000 value)  ALL  for  only  $970

 4 drive setup as above....  A $560 value   special offer .....$530

 Call voice 205-824-2552  or "crash" netmail your order to 3625/441.
 Sorry...  routed  netmail  won't reach me since I get my  feed  via
 satellite.

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From: DAN PROCIV                             Number: 11033
  To: DEAN PEECH                               Date: 01/25/94  8:36a
Subj: Phonebook Cd                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Dave,

Its called ProPhone, Nat'l Edition, 1993. It is the National Telephone
Directory and contains Residential listings, East and West, and,
Business listings, National. Entering a telephone number to obtain a
name and address; entering an address to see every listing on that
particular street; entering a zip code to identify every listing;
entering a name, or, a name in combination with any other field; or,
selecting a directory catagory, by business headings, or SIC codes.
Prophone will allow users to print : an unlimited number of mailing
labels; output an unlimited number of listings to a disk file; limit
searches to businesses, residential, or both catagories.

In Stock Now at The CD-Machine (503)236-4969 Voice / Fax

************************$119 plus shipping******************************

The CD-Machine has over 500+ CDROM titles. For Our NEW GIANT Catalog,
please send requests to:

                 CD-MACHINE
                 P.O. BOX 13304
                 PORTLAND, OR
                 97213-0304

(503)236-4969 VOICE/FAX     (503)236-3266 OR (503)236-0269 BBS FOR 24 HR
24 HRS / 7 DAYS             ONLINE ORDERING.


Let us know if we can help.


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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 11034
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 01/24/94 11:23p
Subj: Last Warning                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Then it happened......DVIn a message to David Vangelder <01-19-94 12:41> 
Lee Noga wrote:

LN>> In a message to Bill Rogers <01-15-94 12:41> David Vangelder wrote:

LN>> DV>> was unaware that Ms. Noga beat me or that we were even in a 
LN>> DV>> contest.

    I have no real interest in what this is all about. I am getting tired 
of the "Who's going to get in the last word". It's getting really tiring 
so please stop already. I think a Month+ of back and forth bantering is 
enough. 

  Now back to the CD-ROM Discussion....
                        Mike

Mike
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From: DAVE JARRETT                           Number: 11035
  To: JOE REINHART                             Date: 01/26/94 10:00p
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 BB> Joe,
 
 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories
 JR> CATALOG!*************

 BB> Could you please send me one too.

Dave Jarrett
7018 E. Golflinks Rd. #136
Tucson, AZ 85730

 BB> Thank you.



 
... "Captain, why not just give the Borg Windows 3.1?" - Worf
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 11036
  To: AUDIE VICKERS                            Date: 01/25/94  8:50a
Subj: Storm 'S                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> and I have Stellar7

I'd be interested in trading for the Stellar7 for one of the
CD's,although I'm not sure if they're still available as some people
have replied...I'll get back to you if I don't here from then soon...

Thanks,

                           Diana

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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 11037
  To: ROGER DAVIS                              Date: 01/25/94  8:52a
Subj: Storm I,ii,ii + Ecstasy H               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> How about Software Vault's "The Collection for Windows - the Instant
-> Library for Windows on CD-ROM" or "The Gold Collection - the Instant
-> Software Library on CD-ROM". 1993 files.
->
-> 512-440-7670
->
-> Roger
->
-> --- GoldED 2.41
-> * Origin: Esc1.70 - Walk the Glory Road! (512)440-7670 (1:382/91.2)

Thanks,but if I got a CD for my BBS I'm more interested in Sci-FI or
Star Trek Collectables,as that's what my BBS is dedicated to.
But thanks,

                     Diana

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 11038
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 01/25/94  7:04p
Subj: CANADIAN CD CATALOGUE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I do believe somewhat in the credo of "all's fair in love and war",
-> but please... I have your price listing here as well, and so far
-> about 90% of my prices are below what you are charging.

Here is what I based my statement on... I'll list the Future Shop
prices in a future message, if you wish. In the interim, I will
remove your catalog from my BBS... even if I do beat your pricing,
you and I still have a large number of titles that do not overlap
between our catalogs, and if you don't wish the free advertising,
so be it.

I guess I should have simply asked that you refrain from making
incorrect pricing comparisons, and left it at that.

My apologies.

Vince


    HRB TAXES:  All shipments within Canada are charged GST at 7%
                including shipping.  All Ontario residents must add
                8% PST to the order only, not on the shipping.
    OUR TAXES:  Included.

Comparison Chart for Ontario Customers:
                                                     HRB W/   NEW HRB
TITLE                                    OURS   HRB  TAXES     PRICE?
9000 Sounds (B)                           34    30    34.50    29.57
Airbrush Portfolio                        60    N/A    0.00    52.17
Animals San Diego Zoo OEM                 30    27    31.05    26.09
Art Appeal - Business                     45    N/A    0.00    39.13
Art Appeal - Educ & Leisure               45    N/A    0.00    39.13
Art Appeal - Gov & Industry               45    N/A    0.00    39.13
Arthur's Teacher Trouble                  44    39    44.85    38.26
ASP Shareware (B) (LQ)                    30    28    32.20    26.09
Bibles and Religion                       19    17    19.55    16.52
CD Powerbox #2 (B)                        40    N/A    0.00    34.78
CD Winbox (B) (B) (LQ)                    35    N/A    0.00    30.43
Classic Cars                              45    N/A    0.00    39.13
ColorMagic (PC/MAC)                       30    30    34.50    26.09
Computer Reference Library                20    17    19.55    17.39
Cookbook USA Jr.                          35    N/A    0.00    30.43
Dictionaries & Languages                  20    17    19.55    17.39
Dinosaur Adventures                       40    37    42.55    34.78
Dr. Games #2 (B)                          25    23    26.45    21.74
Dr. Music #2 (B)                          25    23    26.45    21.74
Dr. Windows #2 (B)                        25    23    26.45    21.74
Encyclopedia of Sound                     25    17    19.55    21.74
Fantazia Fonts (B)                        40    37    42.55    34.78
Fingers for Windows (OEM)                 45    N/A    0.00    39.13
Fingers for Windows (Retail)              70    N/A    0.00    60.87
Flowering Plants                          45    N/A    0.00    39.13
Games Platinum Windows                    30    N/A    0.00    26.09
Grolier Encyclopedia (OEM)                70    62    71.30    60.87
Hacker Chronicles (Retail Box)            40    37    42.55    34.78
Ham Radio 3.0                             19    17    19.55    16.52
Home and Office Legal Guide               30    N/A    0.00    26.09
House of Games II                         30    N/A    0.00    26.09
Icons/Wallpaper and More                  50    N/A    0.00    43.48
Kodak Photo CD                            22    20    23.00    19.13
Kodak Photo CD w/Processing               55    N/A    0.00    47.83
Lan Master                                40    37    42.55    34.78
Landscapes                                45    N/A    0.00    39.13
Languages of the World                    40    34    39.10    34.78
Learning Lotus 1-2-3                      40    N/A    0.00    34.78
Learning Windows 3.1                      40    N/A    0.00    34.78
MacMillan Dictionary for Kids             35    32    36.80    30.43
Mayo Clinic                               35    28    32.20    30.43
Mega-Media 1                              30    27    31.05    26.09
Mega-Media 2                              30    27    31.05    26.09
Microsoft Bookshelf                       75    67    77.05    65.22
Mixed Up Mother Goose                     28    25    28.75    24.35
Monster Media #3 (Sep-Dec 93)             45    N/A    0.00    39.13
Nature Graphics (B)                       30    N/A    0.00    26.09
Night Owl 10.1 (B)                        48    43    49.45    41.74
Night Owl 9  (B) (LQ)                     45    N/A    0.00    39.13
OS/2 Box (B)                              35    N/A    0.00    30.43
Our Solar System                          20    17    19.55    17.39
P.C. Sig #13                              40    N/A    0.00    34.78
Precision Mapping                        120    113  129.95   104.35
Publisher's Dream Disk w/man.             50    N/A    0.00    43.48
Publishers Paradise PRO                   40    N/A    0.00    34.78
Resource Library - Audio                  25    21    24.15    21.74
Resource Library - Graphics               25    23    26.45    21.74
Resource Library - Multimedia             30    34    39.10    26.09
Sci-Fi Games and Trivia (B)               35    30    34.50    30.43
Shareware 93 Volume 2 (B)                 35    30    34.50    30.43
Shareware Expl MS DOS Vol 3 (B)           29    32    36.80    25.22
Shareware Expl MS Win Vol 2 (B)           29    35    40.25    25.22
Shareware Explorer 4 disc set             65    65    74.75    56.52
Shareware Overload Trio (3disc)           30    28    32.20    26.09
Shareware Studio 3 (B)                    30    32    36.80    26.09
Software Jukebox (B)                      35    55    63.25    30.43
Software Vault Gold (B)                   34    30    34.50    29.57
Space Adventure                           35    37    42.55    30.43
Tech Arsenel (B)                          40    N/A    0.00    34.78
Too Many Typefonts                        19    17    19.55    16.52
Win Platinum                              30    27    31.05    26.09
Windows 1993 (B)                          34    30    34.50    29.57
World Vista MPC Atlas                     50    48    55.20    43.48

We use ExpressPost shipping. Our cost is $3.95+tax for 1 CD, $5+tax
for 2 CDs. We charge our customers $3 for the first disc, $2 for the
second (taxes included), so there are _NO_ hidden costs.
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 11039
  To: RICARDO E MOSQUERA, MD                   Date: 01/27/94  8:32a
Subj: % CD-ROM Disks                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

REMM>I have interest in the PC-LIBRARY SIG 8 AND 9 EDITION
REMM>WHAT I HAVE TO MAKE THE DEAL

     Sig 8 is still available, Sig 9 has been sold.

     I will put #8 aside with your name on it pending receipt of your
payment of $11.90 including shipping. Payment should be sent to me at
the address below. Please be sure to include your address and a copy of
this note.      Enjoy

PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $ 9

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Registered Symantec Q&A Consultant


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From: ROB MCGRATH                            Number: 11040
  To: JIM WILKINSON                            Date: 01/27/94 12:14a
Subj: Re: Night Owl                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


JW>  Watch out for the Virus!


What virus!??

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Rob McGrath, London ON Canada.                          (519) 473-8110
Internet: rob.mcgrath@homebase.com    Fido: 1:2401/114   C2C: 01/01/14
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From: DAVID HILL                             Number: 11041
  To: MICHAEL HADEN                            Date: 01/22/94  3:02p
Subj: ADULT CD-ROM'S                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike,
I think (know) you have the wrong David Hill. Compare the tag  lines/fido
address.
*S

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From: TOM HUBER                              Number: 11042
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/24/94  1:58a
Subj: Rules, etc.                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am in the process of bringing my bbs on-line. I don't remember seeing
rules or a moderator declaring him/herself. Who is the moderator, what
are the rules, and, considering the amount of "adult" nature material
discussed, this echo appears best limited to "mature" users. Right?

Thanks,
Tom
Star Spawn BBS
(soon to be on-line)

 * OLX 2.1 TD * I've got an urge -- to swipe a tagline. Help!


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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 11043
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/26/94  5:32a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
                        ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3600 CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee

                    ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee

                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
14.4 Power supply..................$10.00 ea.
external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
FedEX Shipping (drives)$10.00 for up to 2 drives,$20.00 for 3-4 drives.

                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****

As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
offering all refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit,
to be shipped upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30
days for receipt of your refurbished drive.

                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: MAJIC NAME: "CONFIG" gets all CD-ROM oriented files
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariat.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 11044
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/26/94  5:33a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For 1,500+ CD-Titles & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip, descript.zip (or) MAJIC word CONFIG gets both
The Blue Parrot CD-ROM SUPPORT RBBS offers non-backboned echo config
for daily cdlist updates, news, game reviews, & more.
All config.sys cd-rom support files are available to all NEW users!

Fido: 1:157/479 - RBBS: 8:965/13 - Kesher: 18:711/176 - WWIV: 2@2659
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.|Voice: (216) 296.9831 or 296.4446 24hrs
P.O. Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240  |BBS/Fax: 216.296.2244 - 23hrs 16.8k ZYX
Internet: joe@config.wariat.org|>>>>>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<<<

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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 11045
  To: JOHN LITTLE                              Date: 01/27/94  9:45a
Subj: Re: Bodacious Beauties-New Release      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <01-21-94 10:34> John Little wrote:

JL>  So, for $35, I can run your CD on my 2 node system?
JL>
JL>  Thanks,
JL>  John

Mr. Little, the cost to license Bodacious Beauties for 2
nodes would be $25.00 for the first node and $15.00 for
the second node, or a total of  $40.00.

This would cover the licensing of Bodacious Beauties for
as long as you wish to keep it on line.

Thanks for your post.  If you decide to purchase Bodacious
Beauties, I hope that you will be pleased with the disc.  
 
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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 11046
  To: FERNANDO ROBLES                          Date: 01/27/94 10:00a
Subj: Re: Bodacious Beauties-New Release      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <01-23-94 20:30> Fernando Robles wrote:

FR>  What's up?
FR>
FR>  I've seen a lot of talk about this CD, but I haven't seen a
FR>  description of it yet.  How many images, x,xx or xxx,
FR>  resolution, and how to order it.
FR>
FR>  Thanx


Mr. Robles, I recently posted a complete description of the disc including
all the files listed and who appears in them, number of files in each
directory as well as the entire disc.  Graphical Images of Florida rates the
disc  "X", where others (cannot mention name) would rate the disc  "XX".
There is penetration or going over the line on a few images, but I think you
could count them on one hand.  The women show explicit open genetalia and the
males expose their penises (a favorite word for the news shows). The disc
contains images like you would see in Hustler or any of the other popular
men's magazine, but be assurred the woman are well endowed!

All of the GIFs on Bodacious Beauties are 1024 x 768 x 256 and will require at
least a 1 M video graphics card. As to where to purchase the disc, there are
distributors who advertise on this echo.  In quantity, they can be purchased
directly from Graphical Images of Florida.

Please look for my recent post. You will recognize many of the names of the
models.  
 
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From: DAVID DUREL                            Number: 11047
  To: MODERATOR                                Date: 01/27/94  9:32a
Subj: rules                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can I get a posting of the rules of this echo, please?


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From: JAMIE LEDBETTER                        Number: 11048
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 01/27/94  8:25a
Subj: cd trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I have ANIMATION FANTASIES which I'd like to trade for
 > another adult cd or non-adult if it 's something I need.  Let
 > me know if interested.

How about a trade for Stellar 7, or Kings Quest?

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From: J. ALLEN                               Number: 11049
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/27/94  5:59p
Subj: Re: NIGHT OWL 11 NOW SHIPPING           Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MS>      * Night Owl 10.1 + 11...........(All '93 + No Dupes!)..........$49
MS>      * Night Owl 9 + 10.1 + 11.......(All '93 + No Dupes!)..........$69
MS>      * Night Owl 8 + 9 + 10.1 + 11.........(No Dupes!)..............$85

Are these the same Nite Owl disks your selling that you keep saying are no
good or some other Nite Owl disks?

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 11050
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 01/27/94  1:44p
Subj: Your annoying                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <01-23-94 15:18> David Vangelder wrote:

DV>> Ms. Noga, as usual you have mistated the facts and responded to a
DV>> statement of mine OUT OF CONTEXT.

You better be careful what you are insinuating here, and you had better cease
and desist accusations against myself, my product line and my company. You are
portraying a negative image against myself and company in your efforts with
such statements above, and being driven to speak in this tongue to ensure the
public receives you positively. I hope the benefit out weighs the risks for
your having done so.

DV>> First, in your previous posts you have simply advised that you did
DV>> not want me to post messages regarding the lawsuit in which you are
DV>> involved.  You have never requested "..to leave *MY* name out of
DV>> any post...".  As you know, I do not wish to bring up your name in
DV>> any of my posts, nor have I.

Mr. van Gelder on my post dated 12/16/93 at 12:44 I stated to you the
following:

" Mr. van Gelder, do not use myself or my product line as a credit leaverage
for you or your company...."

If your reputation is at stake in the public view and you are responding to the
general public, your creditability counts as "Credit" leverage when posting. So
I think I made it real clear, that I do not wish you to use my name period in
any discussions you are having for whatever reason.

DV>> I did not wish to respond to your post. But I didn't want the readers
DV>> of this echo to be mislead into thinking that I have ever initiated
DV>> this kind of childish & petty nonsense, as indicated in your post.

Day late and a dollar short. If you are concerned about your image here, then
take that one step further, and stop trying to compromise mine. Your famous for
starting your posts with:

"Ms. Noga, as usual you have mistated the facts and responded to a
statement of mine OUT OF CONTEXT "

.... so reading your typical opener here, don't you think the public can see
your beating on me still-- Do you think that scores points ? If your suffering
from a poor public image (which has not been established), ask yourself what
part *YOU* played. Dave, take my advice just this one time, and leave myself,
and products alone. Don't comment, congratulate, review or offer constructive
critism on my future releases. Don't make references, use, or elude to knowing
me or my personal name. Don't bully, knock, and make insinuations against my
character... and most of all, stop blaming me for misunderstandings and
misreprentation of facts. The public is not buying this "It's all Lee". Love
yourself enough to heed my words of wisdom.

Now, go ride off into the sunset.

Happy trails,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: DICK WALSH                             Number: 11051
  To: DON ROBINSON                             Date: 01/27/94  7:52a
Subj: RE: ADVERTISING                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You agree with who   Brice Fleckenstien or myself   <Dick>

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From: DAVID TANURY                           Number: 11052
  To: JAMES VIERRA                             Date: 01/27/94 10:13p
Subj: Met                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



         You sound like three Mac Trucks on this tape.
        Your life has become full of MACS!!!!

Almost Blew it up HuH?

                Sure You can borrow my 14.4. But I want it back this
century.

                        Practice is a beautiful on monday. I'll see what
the other are doing.

                                California Prophet on a burnin shore.
Like an angel


                                I'm Gone, man


*FSED91m*
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From: JOHN SKINNER                           Number: 11053
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/26/94  9:25a
Subj: Test Msg.                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

This is a test to see if my system is on line.
Thankyou all.
John Skinner


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From: DAN PROCIV                             Number: 11054
  To: MIKE BOULTER                             Date: 01/26/94 12:07a
Subj: Cdrom dealer           01               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Mike,

I have approximately 200 Adult CD Titles in stock. If its on CD then we
probably stock it. A very high percentage of them have files.bbs. To
name a few:
 Adult Reference Library, Amateur Models, Asian Ladies, Busty Babes,
Digital Dreams, Digital Dreams 2, Dreamland 1, EB Imaging 1, Ecstacy
Hot Pics, Erotic Encounters 2, FAO 3 disk set, Foxes, Flame, FAO Gold,
Gay World 2, GBL, G.I.F.s That Keep On Giffing, Giffy Gold, Hot Hunks,
Luscious Ladies, Manpower, Moving Fantasies, My Private Collection, My
Private Collection 2, Nix Pix Hot Pix 3,4,5, Nova Collection 1, Nova
Collection 2, PC Pix 1,2,3, Pixure Rom 1,2,3, Pork-Ware 1,2, Seedy Rom
Seventh Heaven, Sex-Hibition, Super Smutware, So Much Stareware,
Storm1,2,3, Sweet Dreams, T&A to the Max, Total Fantasy, Wild Women, and
more......

You can order our latest "FREE" GIANT CATALOG by mailing a request to:

         THE CD-MACHINE
         P.O. BOX 13304
         PORTLAND, OR
         97213-0304

or can order by calling:
    (503)236-4969 Voice/Fax or (503)2363266 / (503)236-0269 BBS
    24 hrs / 7 Days a Week. Our Catalog is available for download from
    the Cdrom Support BBS, and You can place orders online if you wish
    from the Online Shopping Door.

Hope this helps. Let us know if we can do anything for you!!


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From: PETE DINNELLA                          Number: 11055
  To: JOHN CALLICRATE                          Date: 01/27/94  1:31a
Subj: Mcicda.drv                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey John,

JC*>You got it!  The "version" of WIN you got with the Packard Bell is
JC*>"less than" the "real" MS Windows version.

That's what I was afraid of.  Figgers though!  Are there any other files
in the "real" version that I should know about?  You know, something to
make it worth going out and buying "again".  I have a third party
utility for playing audio CD's, but I have noticed trouble when I try
loading video drivers.  So is it worth the $$$$$$ ?

Thanx 4 the info! =)

                           ---===>PETE<===---
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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 11056
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 01/26/94 11:34p
Subj: Re: Cd's For Sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Ryan Denke to All <=-

 RD> I have two Cd's for sale:
 RD> The women of Venus - a nice swimsuit CD - $13

If you'll deliver it for $13, I'll take it....let me know your address and
I'll send the check.
 
... Is there a Lawyer in the House? -=}BLAM!{=- Any more!?
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: RAJAT SETHI                            Number: 11057
  To: JEFF WEISS                               Date: 01/24/94 11:37p
Subj: Re: *^Data conversion                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What I wanted to know is how you get the data from my hard drive onto a CD-ROM,
and how much per MB or per disk it is.
 
Thanks.
-Rajat Sethi

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From: BRIAN KELLER                           Number: 11058
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/26/94 10:12a
Subj: ***GAMES FOR SALE***                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Kings Quest 6 on CD-ROM $20.00
WING COMMANDER DELUXE ON CD-ROM $24.00

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From: MICHAEL HADEN                          Number: 11059
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 01/27/94 10:21a
Subj: Storm I,ii,ii, And Ecstas               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Diana sorry it has been awhile since I was on the board I have Wing
Commander and Ultima VI ,I have some windows Cd's like Rom Material and Win CD
which is a cdplayer and cd datebase for windows I also have 7th Guest but I
don't know if I am ready to let that one go yet unless you make me an offer I
can't refuse.If you don't want to trade for any I have how muck cash do you
want for them??? Leave msg TTYL Thanks



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From: TONY WHITE                             Number: 11060
  To: JEFF CHARLESON                           Date: 01/27/94 11:34a
Subj: NEC 3X AND 4X CD ROM                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jeff Charleson keyed in the following blurb to All:

JC> Needed:

JC> Information about the 3x and 4x CD-ROM drives.  Also,
JC> information on how to  acquire a double-speed CD-ROM, under
JC> 300ms, brand name/generic OK, warranty. 

What information are you looking for on the NEC units?  Price?
Specs?

-TWhite

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From: TONY WHITE                             Number: 11061
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 01/27/94  2:53p
Subj: NEC 3XI Triple Speed                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

James Porter keyed in the following blurb to All:

JP> I am looking for pricing on brand new NEC 3XI triple speed
JP> SCSI CDROM internal drives.

JP> Can anyone help???

Yep.  I'll sell you one for $529 including shipping to your door.
Drop me a note in COMPUSALE if you're interested.

Got the floppy, BTW.  Thanks.

-TWhite

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From: DENNIS BRIGGS                          Number: 11062
  To: DAN PROCIV                               Date: 01/27/94  9:40a
Subj: !FREE CDROM CATALOG!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On <24 Jan, 23:57>, Dan Prociv wrote to All :

DP>  **********************SPECIAL EDITION 1994 GIANT CDROM 
DP>  CATALOG***************
DP>  
Add me to your mailing list please..
Dennis Briggs
1010 West "F"
Jenks, Ok. 74037
                             Thanks

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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 11063
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/26/94 12:24a
Subj: @ Looking for SCSI CD-ROM Drive! @      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking to purchase a SCSI CD-ROM Drive for my system.  If you have
one for sale, please tell me a little about it and your asking price.
Thanks in advance.


... If FORMAT C: /X/S does not work....try installing Chicago..............

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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 11064
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/26/94 12:30a
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (24 Jan 94) Joe Rinehart wrote to All...

 JR> CD-ROM Drives
 JR>                         ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
 JR> Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3600 CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee
 JR> 
 JR>                     ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
 JR> Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
 JR> Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee
 JR> 

Do you have any internal SCSI CD-ROM Drives for sale?  I admit $130 is a fine
price for external drives but I would prefer an internal.  I have seen two
companies selling internal SCSI CD-ROM Drives for $189, do you have something
similar?


... Forest Fires Prevent Bears

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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 11065
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 01/27/94 12:30p
Subj: CDRoms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Too much data to look through and stay sane!

New CDRoms for sale:

 Aminet June 1993                $12.00  Almost 600 megs of Amiga stuff,
                                         Thousands of GNU apps, C code,
                                         sound files, games, etc...
 CICA Windows Aug. 1993          $12.00  640+ Megs of Windows stuff, utils
                                         games, drivers, icons, info, and
                                         tons of other stuff.
 Garbo May 1992                  $12.00  375+ Megs of MSDOS/MAC from the
                                         Garbo Archive at the University
                                         of Vassa, Finland.
 GIFs Galore 1st ed.             $15.00  610+ Megs of .gif files. Animals,
                                         people, fantasy, tv, movies, more.
                                         320x280 to 1024x768
 Giga Games Aug. 1993            $17.00  450+ Megs zipped, 1 GIG unzipped!
                                         Games for MSDOS/Windows. Graphics
                                         Arcade games!  Adventure games!
                                         1000+ D&D files!  Tons more.
 Hobbes OS/2  June 1993          $12.00  640+ Megs of OS/2, bunches of
                                         must have utils for OS/2 2.x,tons
                                         of other stuff for 1.x to 2.x.
 La Coleccion Agosto 1993        $15.00  Mas de 6.500 archivos shareware
                                         y de dominio publico clasificados
                                         en 55 secciones con descripciones
                                         en espanol.  Listo para utilizar
                                         en BBS. DOS/Windows/OS/2. 475 Megs.
 Libris Britanica Issue 2        $28.00  650 Megs of Shareware from
                                         England!  This import has tons
                                         of MSDOS stuff you probabley
                                         have not seen... (With 124 pg.
                                         listing of files and descriptions)
 Project Gutenberg  July 1993    $17.00  Tons of classic lit/history/info
                                         files from the Project Gutenburg
                                         archive, all low ASCII text,
                                         ISO-9660, readable on almost
                                         anything!
 ShareWare Heaven 1993           $20.00  400+ Megs of MSDOS/Win, good
                                         general CD, samples wide range
                                         of programs/utils.
 Simtel MSDOS May 1993           $12.00  630+ Megs MSDOS, over 9000
                                         programs, drivers, tech info,
                                         graphics & sound stuff.
 Source  March 1992              $17.00  600 Megs of C code for just
                                         about every application: from
                                         AI to usenet.
 Soundwave                       $23.00  450 Megs of unique sounds, pro
                                         recordings at 16 bits.  Sounds
                                         as good as audio CDs. 200 Megs
                                         of sound files at 8 bits.
 Space and Astronomy  Oct 93     $17.00  530 Megs. 1080 images from space.
                                         5000 informational text files.
                                         Many astronomy/space programs for
                                         both IBM and Mac.  BBS ready.
                                         Awesome!  I loved this one.
Postage and Insurance is $5.00 per order, 2nd day priority shipping, in USA.
I will ship COD.  Add $5.00 per order for COD charges.

Feel free to contact and/or send checks/money orders to:

Eric Bravick
USF 3008
4202 E. Fowler Ave.
Tampa, FL. 33620-3008

(813) 985-9619 (Voice)
(813) 985-9723 (BBS)
Netmail 1:377/53.0
Internet: bravick@luna.cas.usf.edu

Thanks,
Eric


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11066
  To: GARY KIMBRELL                            Date: 01/27/94 12:33a
Subj: NEW CATALOG, LOWER $$$!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GK:>Has me scared there Mike, called the 1-800-# to place a order and it was
giv
GK:>a no-longer-n-service message. I will give you a call tomorrow to talk.

Yeah, sorry about that Gary.  Went with another carrier and they were
not so great, so I cancelled just before I left town for 10 days.
Problem is that I lost my number (my fault) and now have to have a new one
assigned through MCI.  Should be back up before too long.

Take care,
.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11067
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 01/27/94 12:33a
Subj: Macintosh Shareware.                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TW:>MS>We have three.  Otherware I which has 300mb of Mac and 300mb of Amiga
TW:>MS>shareware @ $22.  Garbo w/ approx 350mb of Mac shareware @ $14.30, and
TW:>MS>Mac Shareware w/ approx. 400mb @ $18.70.  If interested, give us a call!

TW:>Mike, do any of them come with Files.BBS? Are they ISO9660? In other
TW:>words, can I put them on my IBM based board?

Terry,

Otherware has FILES.BBS, although some of the descriptions only show the
program name, while others go into more detail.  It and Garbo are standard
9660, while Mac Shareware can only be read on an Apple system 300 drive.

Haven't heard from you lately.  I'll bet you've been putting in long, hard
hours filming those scantily-clad young women again, right?  Man, you'd
better be careful, I doubt your old ticker can take much more of that
stuff.  <gd&r>

Later,
.\\ike


 * SLMR 2.1a * ... A fool and his money soon become a Sysop!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11068
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/27/94 12:34a
Subj: NEW CD-ROM TITLES!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #1:  NEW CD ARRIVALS   |
           |____________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

>14000 PROGRAMS * Low cost shareware CD with LOADS of programs.......$14.60
>ALONE IN THE DARK * A virtual reality foray into the macabre!.......$67.20
 CD POWERBOX 2 * The newest of the new! Current shareware hits. BBS..$25.60
>COMMUNICATION MASTER * Utilities for Ham, Lan, and Networking.......$14.30
 COMPANION FOR OS/2 * Latest OS/2 CD w/ utils and sound files........$18.90
>COMPLETE HOUSE * Design your dream home with ease!..................$29.40
 CREAM OF THE CROP 2 * EZ BBS installation. 654mb of '93 files.......$25.00
 DARE, BLUFF, OR DIE * Exciting old West shoot'em up game............$27.90
>DESTINATION MARS * Will you be the first human to reach Mars?.......$22.00
 DIGITAL DREAMS 2 * Newest all-original "R" CD. No dupes to 1! BBS...$25.30
>DOCTOR'S BOOK OF HOME REMEDIES * Home remedy guide by Compton's.....$21.90
 GAMES COLLECTION * An all-games CD with 90% '93 file dates! BBS.....$20.00
 GAMES PLATINUM * Terrific Windows games that are playable from CD...$18.90
 GIRLS OF MARDI GRAS * New "R" adult film showcasing party girls.....$39.50
 GROLIER'S MPC 6.0 * The latest edition of Grolier's encyclopedia....$43.10
 HAM RADIO/SCANNER COMPANION * Lots of essential utilities for Hams..$18.90
 HEALTH & MEDICAL DIRECTORY * Guide to all doctors & hospitals in US.$19.20
>HELL CAB * You're going to have the worst cab ride in history!......$64.30
 HOLLYWOOD THE BIZARRE * Lives & deaths of the stars w/ voices.......$39.00
 HORROR & SCI-FI FILMS * Full details of over 2300 films w/ pictures.$39.00
>HOT WOMEN, HOT CARS * PG-rated video of exotic cars and hot babes...$14.30
 IMAGES OF NASA * The finest collection of authentic NASA photos.....$21.90
 LANGUAGE DISCOVERY * A fun way to learn Spanish, German, & French...$19.00
 MIDI & WAVE WORKSHOP * Full of MID, WAV, & MOD files from Rolland...$15.90
>MONSTER MEDIA VOL 3 * All '93 files from Sep-Dec w/ manual. BBS.....$27.90
 MULTIMEDIA MAGIC COLLECTION * Complete commercial programs & demos..$14.30
 MVP GAME JAMBOREE * Shareware games from MVP, some registered.......$11.30
>NIGHT OWL 11 * The latest in this long-running series. BBS-ready....$29.90
 NIGHT OWL WINDOWS * Great assortment of late-date Windows s/w. BBS..$18.90
 OCEANS BELOW * Fantastic multimedia exploration of undersea life....$20.50
 OS/2BOX * The best, most recent OS/2 shareware CD. Fully BBS-ready..$20.00
 -->SPECIAL PAK: OS/2BOX + HOBBES 10/93..............................$33.00
>PC-SIG 13 * The latest and greatest from PC-SIG. Disks 1-4203.......$24.90
>PHOTO CD DEMO * Great demo shows all you want to know about PhotoCD.$14.70
 PUBLISHER'S PARADISE PRO * Update with new Truetype fonts & clipart.$35.10
 PUZZLEMANIA * Fabulous jigsaw puzzles w/ 300+ different pictures....$14.30
 SO MUCH SPACE! * A galaxy full of breathtaking scenes from space....$18.90
 SOLAR HEAVEN * Nice collection of astronomy & astrology programs....$15.90
 SPACE & ASTRONOMY * Over 7000 image & shareware files on astronomy..$19.00
>STAR WARS CHESS * Let the Wookie win!...............................$31.00
>USER'S CHOICE WINDOWS * 680mb of current Windows shareware. BBS.....$15.90
 VIDEO MOVIE GUIDE * Reviews 12,000 movies, from "B" to the hits.....$28.50
 VIRTUAL 3D * Realistic 3D images on your monitor. Comes w/ glasses!.$22.00
 VIRTUAL REALITY STARTER KIT * Everything you need for VR on your PC.$49.00
 WINDOWS COLLECTION * A Windows-only CD with ALL '93 file dates! BBS.$20.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 ORDERS...............509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 FAX/INFO/ORDERS......509-457-2966..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 400+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11069
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/27/94 12:34a
Subj: GET OUR NEW CATALOG!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

***************************************************************************
   FREQ OR DOWNLOAD STARVECTOR'S CURRENT CATALOG W/ 400+ CD-ROM TITLES!
***************************************************************************

 To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 400+
 CD-ROM titles that we stock, you may either download our catalog file from
 our BBS, or Freq (file request) it.

 BBS:   509-457-0206 - Download STARCAT.EXE from <F>ile menu. (1st call)
 FREQ:  1:3407/101 - File request STARCAT.ZIP

 Our new BBS now has an online order door with all our current titles and
 new lower prices!  All callers may d/l our catalog and/or place an order
 on the first call!

 Please feel free to call our BBS at 509-457-0206.  The system is using a
 U.S.R. Sportster 14.4, so you should have no problem logging on at any
 speed between 300bps and 14,400bps.

 While online, you may want to download one or more of the CD-ROM file
 listings that are available also.

 The Starvector BBS is online, and waiting to serve you!  Look for
 continuous updates and improvements in the near future, with more CD
 file listings, new online doors, and more!


 * SLMR 2.1a * Dammit Jim!  I'm a doctor, not a tagline!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11070
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/27/94 12:34a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11 NOW SHIPPING               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |     Title:  NIGHT OWL 11      |  |     $29.90      |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

                             >>> IT'S HERE! <<<

     What more can be said about this shareware CD?  Controversial?  Yes,
     but always among the very "upper echelon" in the shareware field,
     with some of the most recent files available, and full bulletin board
     compatiblity.  Get 'em while they're hot, and check out some of these
     great package deals too!

     * Night Owl 10.1 + 11...........(All '93 + No Dupes!)..........$49
     * Night Owl 9 + 10.1 + 11.......(All '93 + No Dupes!)..........$69
     * Night Owl 8 + 9 + 10.1 + 11.........(No Dupes!)..............$85
     * Night Owl 11 + Pier 3........................................$49
     * Night Owl 11 + Cream of the Crop 2...........................$49
     * Night Owl 11 + CD Powerbox 2.................................$49
     * Night Owl 11 + Pier 3 + CD Powerbox 2........................$69

                 >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 ORDERS...............509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 FAX/INFO/ORDERS......509-457-2966..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050             INTERNET....pantera300@aol.com
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 400+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * Dammit Jim!  I'm a doctor, not a tagline!

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From: STEPHEN MAXWELL                        Number: 11071
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/26/94  7:30p
Subj: JukeBox drives                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Boris,


   I was curious- are those older jukebox drives (the ones around $800) still
available, or are the new $1700 ones the only ones that you can get?

Stephen 'Mad Max' Maxwell 
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From: STEFAN ATTAWAY                         Number: 11072
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 01/27/94 11:05p
Subj: CD-ROM readers cheap!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 01-25-94 Matt Bedtelyon wrote to All... 
 
 MB>        +-----------------------------------+ 
 MB>        |      CD-ROM's by MEG*A*BITE       | 
 MB>        | Specializing in Pre-Owned Drive's | 
 MB>        |        for your BBS world!        | 
 MB>        |              $99.00               | 
 MB>        |   Refurbished Hitachi CDR-3600    | 
 MB>        |     30 day complete warranty!     | 
 MB>        |  "Your CD-ROM Drive Headquarters" | 
 MB>        +-----------------------------------+ 
 MB>        |     Call today (517)892-5518      | 
 MB>        |         FAX (517)892-5965         | 
 MB>        |    We are a Philips LMS factory   | 
 MB>        |        direct distributor!        | 
 MB>        +-----------------------------------+ 
 MB>        |   VISA and MasterCard accepted!   | 
 MB>        +-----------------------------------+ 
 MB> 
Give me more data.  How about some specs....Im interested....what type 
of interface do they use,  will they interface with a soundcard.....are 
the mpc compatible? 
 
 
___ 
 * OFFLINE 1.56 

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From: MIKE STEFFEN                           Number: 11073
  To: TOM HUNT                                 Date: 01/27/94  6:11a
Subj: Freeland,Mi                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Are you the Mike who use to live by Freeland,Mi?? You got any adult CD's you
-> want to sell??
Wrong Mike, and I do have A.P.L. I want to TRADE!
s

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 11074
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/27/94  1:34p
Subj: Cd-drives Plus                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CD-ROM Drives
                        ****REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****
Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3600 CD-ROM DRIVES $130.00 30day warrantee

                    ***NEED TO BE REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES***
Needs Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $50.00 no warrantee
Needs Refurbished NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $60.00 no warrantee

                          ***CD-DRIVE ACCESSORIES***
caddies.............................$5.00 ea./$4.50 with CD purchase
power splitters.....................$5.00 ea.
Standard internal cables............$5.00 ea.
Tower internal cables..............$10.00 ea.
14.4 Power supply..................$10.00 ea.
external 3.5'tower cables..........$50.00 ea.
Hitachi controller cards 3500/3600.$60.00 ea.
SCSI controller card for NEC.......$65.00 ea.
40pin ribbon.......................$ 2.50 per foot
Cream of the Crop 1 & 2 "BUNDLE"...$40.00
Shipping (accesories) is at cost based on weight
FedEX Shipping (drives)$10.00 for up to 2 drives,$20.00 for 3-4 drives.

                 ****PRE-ORDERS FOR REFURBISHED CD-DRIVES****

As we can sell these faster then they can be refurbished, we are
offering all refurbished drives on a pre-order basis with a 50% deposit,
to be shipped upon completion & final testing.  Allow a minimum of 30
days for receipt of your refurbished drive.

                         IN-STOCK READY TO SHIP
Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs!

CATALOG FREQ: MAJIC NAME: "CONFIG" gets all CD-ROM oriented files
        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
               Internet alternate: joe@config.wariat.org
FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 11075
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/27/94  1:35p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For 1,500+ CD-Titles & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip, descript.zip (or) MAJIC word CONFIG gets both
The Blue Parrot CD-ROM SUPPORT RBBS offers non-backboned echo config
for daily cdlist updates, news, game reviews, & more.
All config.sys cd-rom support files are available to all NEW users!

Fido: 1:157/479 - RBBS: 8:965/13 - Kesher: 18:711/176 - WWIV: 2@2659
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.|Voice: (216) 296.9831 or 296.4446 24hrs
P.O. Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240  |BBS/Fax: 216.296.2244 - 23hrs 16.8k ZYX
Internet: joe@config.wariat.org|>>>>>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<<<

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 11076
  To: ROGER DAVIS                              Date: 01/27/94  6:51a
Subj: CDs to SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What would ya wanna trade some of those cd's for?
What are you looking for?
                                  Sam Figueroa
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From: JOHN THOMPSON                          Number: 11077
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 01/26/94 11:24a
Subj: DESCRIPT.ION                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

IG>  Just a note to all CD-ROM Publishers.  
IG>  I would like it if when you produce CD-ROM's you would include a  
IG>  4DOS/NDOS style DESCRIPT.ION in each directory.  
 
Walnut Creek seems to have started to do this; eg the 10/93 release of the 
SIMTEL20 collection has a DESCRIPT.ION file in each directory. 
 
IG>  I realise that this would require a bit of extra work to translate the 
IG>  FILES.BBS into DESCRIPT.ION, but I figured if enough people expressed  
IG>  an interest you might consider it. It wouldn't even be that hard for 
IG>  you to write a utility to do it for you.  
 
The Walnut Creek CD referred to above includes a utility (CONVERT.EXE) to do
just that:

Convert BBS file formats.  Walnut Creek CDROM, copyright 1993.
usage: convert <in_type> <out_type> Ždirectory path� < in > out
       <in_type>   := cug; simtel; cica; ulowel; hobbes;
       <in_type>   := opus; game (long description); pcb; collect
       <out_type>  := opus; rbbs; spitfire; pcb; rover
       <out_type>  := cica; wildcat; 4dos
       if <out_type> == rbbs, spitfire, pcb, rover, cica
           Ždirectory path� is required.

I've also seen .btm's to do this on the 4DOS echo already. 4DOS v5.0c's
DESCRIBE command can handle redirected input (as from FILES.BBS), making
this a relatively trivial operation. 

 * KingQWK 1.05 # 39 * Running under 4DOS v5.0 Rev C; Registered copy.

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From: MICHAEL HAIP                           Number: 11078
  To: DENNIS WRIGHT                            Date: 01/26/94 10:00p
Subj: Adult CD-ROMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 01-25-94 All was over heard saying something to the effect:

DW>Flame CDR                    32.50  

Could you tell me if this is the "Flame" cd everyone has been talking 
about??!! That is the XXX rated one.  If so what does the "CDR" stand 
for in the title?  I'm looking for a single XXX hardcore cd for my own 
use, and thought that this one may fit the bill. I'm not involved with law 
enforcement in any way, but simply looking for a good XXX cd to add 
to my library, before they are no longer available.  Perhaps you can make 
a suggestion of a good quality ie., high resolution, lots of images, XXX 
stuff.  BYTW the disk I'm looking for needs images which can be imported 
into desktop publishing/graphic programs (good high quality gifs).  Thanks 
for the time, and hope you can offer some advice as to which would be the 
best cd to buy.


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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 11079
  To: ROGER DAVIS                              Date: 01/26/94  1:11p
Subj: CDs to SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Then it happened......RD22 Jan 94 16:22, Mike Gervasi wrote to Roger 
Davis:

 
MG>I have 7th Guest Deluxe for trade

RDWhat kind of trade?

  How about MPC Wizard 2.0 and Battle Chess for 7th Guest?

 Let me know if that's cool with you.

 E-Mail or call 809-293-5375

                    Mike

Mike
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From: ADAM BRIAND                            Number: 11080
  To: JOSEPH DANIELS                           Date: 01/26/94  9:01p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I ordered three cd's from you three weeks ago and I still haven't    
recieved the disks.  What is happening?  Have you shipped them yet?  
   
 * JABBER v1.1 * I'm sure it's clearly explained in the Zmodem DOC's

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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 11081
  To: DEAN PEECH                               Date: 01/27/94 12:23p
Subj: Phonebook Cd                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DP> what is this with the phone book CD's?
DP> what kind of phone numbers?
DP> I am interested in buying one.

It has all the phone #'s for the entire country.

Just like the phonebook.
 
  SMRead 3.3  #?    
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From: MICHAEL DAUM                           Number: 11082
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 01/27/94  2:07p
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RD>I have two Cd's for sale:
RD>        The women of Venus - a nice swimsuit CD - $13
RD>        Day of the Tentacle - Complete game with hintbooks, no text to
RD>                                - $25
RD>

I'll give you $20.00 for Day of The Tentacle.

Michael Daum
5446 Roan Road
Sylvania, OH  43560

Toltbbs!Michael.Daum@uunet.uu.net

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From: RICKY PURCELL                          Number: 11083
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 01/27/94  6:00p
Subj: WANT DOT TENTACLE                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ryan:  Are you selling Day of the Tentacle on CD-ROM?  If so I will take it if
the offer still stands.  Let me know here or call 419-474-6885.
                        Thanks:  Ricky

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From: EVAN THOMAS                            Number: 11084
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/26/94  7:26p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > For 1,500+ CD-Titles & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
 > CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip, descript.zip (or) MAJIC word CONFIG gets both
 > The Blue Parrot CD-ROM SUPPORT RBBS offers non-backboned echo config
 > for daily cdlist updates, news, game reviews, & more.
 > All config.sys cd-rom support files are available to all NEW users!

 Hello Joe.  Could you send one of them catalogs this way?

The address is...

Evan Thomas
6710 Willcher Ct.
Fredericksburg, Va
22407

Thanks a lot.

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From: THOMAS ROSENSTOCK                      Number: 11085
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/25/94  2:57p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1 OF 5                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 21 Jan 94  12:03:00, Brice Fleckenstein had this to say about CD-ROM PRICE
LIST 1 OF
HELLO< WHARE AM I< ANYWAY< I"D BE INTERESTED IN YOUR MAC CD"D< PLEASE MAIL ME<
A REDABLE LIST OF THEM< THANX.

BF>  CD-ROM Price List 14 January 1993
 BF> 
 BF>  5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
 BF>  Indianapolis, IN 46220
 BF>  Tue Thu 11am - 8pm  Wed Fri 11am - 6pm  EST
 BF>  (317) 726-1980 voice  (317) 726-1387 BBS (24 hour, 1200/2400/v.32
 BF> supported)
 BF> 
 BF>  FidoNet 1:231/190   InterNet sysop@f190.n231.z1.fidonet.org
 BF>  All prices are in U.S. Dollars and include any applicable Sales Tax.
 BF>  U.S. Shipping included if prepaid (please allow 7 days for check to
 BF> clear).
 BF>  Sales to out-of-U.S. addresses require payment in U.S. funds.
 BF>  We cannot accept Credit Card payment at this time.
 BF>  If you don't see a specific title that you are looking for, please
 BF> CALL!
 BF>  I add new titles almost constantly!
 BF> 
 BF> 
 BF>  Infocomm 10 Year Aniversery Coll. 79  Louis Armstrong Multi Record
 BF>      29
 BF>  1000 Sound Effects                49  Lovejoy's College Councel. (MPC)
 BF>  79
 BF>  1001 Utilities                    10  Lovely Ladies II           
 BF>       31
 BF>  1992 CD-ROM Collection w/CIA      63  Lucas Arts Game Pack II (OEM)
 BF>     20
 BF>  20'th Century Almanac (5 disc)    72  Lucas Arts Mac Game Pack II
 BF>       26
 BF>  20'th Century Art                 49  Lunicus (Mac)              
 BF>       69
 BF>  20'th Century People (OEM)        25  Lyric Language French (PC/Mac)
 BF>    40
 BF>  20'th Century Sports (OEM)        25  Lyric Language Spanish (PC/Mac)
 BF>   40
 BF>  20000 Leagues Under the Sea (Mac) 69  MacMillan Dict for Children
 BF> (OEM) 19
 BF>  3'd Body Adventure (MPC)          79  MacMillan Dict. for Children
 BF> (Mac 39
 BF>  3D Tutor (Mac)                   119  Macromind Action! (OEM)    
 BF>       28
 BF>  501 Sound Waves                   19  Mad Dog McCree             
 BF>       35
 BF>  600 Days to Cocos Island (Mac)    59  Made in the USA (PC/Mac)   
 BF>       36
 BF>  7'th Guest (OEM)                  36  Madness of Roland (Mac)    
 BF>       50
 BF>  7'th Guest (Mac)                  99  Magic Death (MPC)          
 BF>       49
 BF>  9 Digit Zip Codes                 32  Magic Death (Mac)          
 BF>       49
 BF>  9000 Sounds                       24  Magic Flute (Mac)          
 BF>       55
 BF>  A Christmas Carol                 26  Majestic Places (PC/Mac)   
 BF>       36
 BF>  A Christmas Carol (FTL)           56  Mammals (Nat. Geographic)  
 BF>       23
 BF>  A Silly Noisy House (MPC)         59  Man Enough                 
 BF>       59
 BF>  A Silly Noisy House (Mac)         49  Manhole                    
 BF>       35
 BF>  A+ Grade Builder                  34  Manhole (OEM)              
 BF>       25
 BF>  About Cows                        25  Manpower                   
 BF>       29
 BF>  AD&D Dark Sun: Shattered Lands    69  Mantis Experimental Fighter
 BF> (OEM) 16
 BF>  AD&D Dungeon Hack                 49  Maps 'n' Facts PC Globe    
 BF>       47
 BF>  AD&D Fantasy Empires              59  Mario is Missing Deluxe (OEM)
 BF>     20
 BF>  ADA Programming                   19  Mario Missing w/World Atlas
 BF> (OEM) 20
 BF>  Adobe Type on Call                81  Mario Teaches Typing       
 BF>       64
 BF>  Adobe Type on Call (Windows)      83  Mars Explorer              
 BF>       41
 BF>  Adventures                        40  Masterpiece Library        
 BF>       36
 BF>  Adventures in Heaven              15  Math Blaster Spot          
 BF>       49
 BF>  Adventures of Pinocchio (MAC)     59  Matinee Screen Saver       
 BF>       43
 BF>  Adventures of Willy Beamish (OEM) 17  Mavis Beacon Typing (MPC) (OEM)
 BF>   16
 BF>  Aegis Guardian Fleet              68  Max the Dragon (PC/Mac)    
 BF>       55
 BF>  Aesopolis (Mac)                   69  Mayo Clinic (MPC) (OEM)    
 BF>       18
 BF>  Aesop's Fables (eBook)            40  Mayo Clinic (Mac) (OEM)    
 BF>       24
 BF>  AGFA Intro PAC - 20 Typefaces     82  MCS CD Master              
 BF>       29
 BF>  Airbrush Portfolio (PC/Mac)       69  MCS SOund Review vol. 1    
 BF>       39
 BF>  Air Warrier                       58  Media Clips 3-pack (MPC) (OEM)
 BF>    45
 BF>  Aircraft Encyclopedia             27  Mega A/V                   
 BF>       26
 BF>  Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp    34  Mega Clipart (OEM)         
 BF>       27
 BF>  Aladdin's Lamp (EA) (DOS)         47  Mega CD-ROM v.1            
 BF>       20
 BF>  All American Sports               47  Mega CD-ROM v.2            
 BF>       26
 BF>  All Music Guide                   55  Mega Media I               
 BF>       26
 BF>  Aloha, Hawaii!                    20  Mega Movie Guide           
 BF>       39
 BF>  Alone in the Dark                 69  Mega ROM 3.2 (Mac)         
 BF>       89
 BF>  Amanda Stories (MPC)              41  Mega WinOS/2               
 BF>       26
 BF>  Amanda Stories (Mac)              49  Megarace                   
 BF>       59
 BF>  Amazing Universe (PC/Mac)         59  Microcosm                  
 BF>       85
 BF>  America Adventure                 69  Microprose CD Sampler      
 BF>       15
 BF>  America Alive Guidedisc (DOS)     59  Microprose Collection (OEM)
 BF>       28
 BF>  America Alive Guidisc (Mac)       87  Microsoft Bookshelf '93 (OEM)
 BF>     38
 BF>  American Business Phone Book '92  14  Microsoft Golf             
 BF>       45
 BF>  American Business Phone Book '93  25  Microsoft Mozart           
 BF>       54
 BF>  American Heritage Ilus Ency Dict  50  Microsoft Multimedia Pack (OEM)
 BF>   69
 BF>  American Journey 1896-1945        45  Microsoft Musical Inst. (Mac)
 BF>     79
 BF>  American Vista Atlas (MPC) (OEM)  27  Microsoft Stravisky        
 BF>       54
 BF>  American Vista Atlas (Mac)        60  Microsoft Works (OEM)      
 BF>       38
 BF>  America's Premier Shareware       14  Middle East Diary          
 BF>       26
 BF>  Americans in Space (PC/Mac)       57  MIDI Connection            
 BF>       56
 BF>  Aminet                            15  MIDI Music Shop for Windows


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From: THOMAS ROSENSTOCK                      Number: 11086
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/25/94  2:57p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1 OF 5                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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 BF>  Anecdotes v.1                     14  Midnight Movie Madness     
 BF>       49
 BF>  Anecdotes v.2                     14  Might and Magic: World of Xeen
 BF>    69
 BF>  Anecdotes v.3                     14  Mixed Up Mother Goose (OEM)
 BF>       17
 BF>  Anglo-Saxons                      44  Monarch Notes (PC/Mac)     
 BF>       40
 BF>  Animal Alphabet (MPC)             49  Money, Money, Money! (OEM) 
 BF>       19
 BF>  Animal Kingdom (PC/Mac)           39  Monster Disk (2 discs)     
 BF>       30
 BF>  Animal Tales                      59  Monster Media '93          
 BF>       23
 BF>  Animals Encyclopedia (MPC) (OEM)  27  Monster Media '93 #2       
 BF>       28
 BF>  Animals in Motion                 40  Mosaic Magic               
 BF>       29
 BF>  Animals San Diego Zoo (DOS) (OEM) 19  Mosaic Magic (Mac)         
 BF>       49
 BF>  Animals San Diego Zoo (MPC) (OEM) 20  Mother of All Clip Art     
 BF>       14
 BF>  Animals San Diego Zoo (Mac) (OEM) 23  Motion Picture Guide       
 BF>       89
 BF>  Animation Festival (MPC) (OEM)    20  Movie Select               
 BF>       55
 BF>  Animation Magic (Win)             58  Movie Select (Mac)         
 BF>       55
 BF>  Annabel's Dream Ancient Egy (Mac) 55  Movies on TV and Video (PC/Mac)
 BF>   34
 BF>  Annabel's Dream Medival Eng (DOS) 69  Mowgli's Brothers          
 BF>       36
 BF>  Annabel's Dream Medival Eng (Mac) 69  Mozart (MPC) (OEM)         
 BF>       20
 BF>  APL Volume I                      19  Mozart Multimedia Musicbook
 BF>       37
 BF>  Apollo 8 Go For TLI               30  Mozart Multimedia Musicbook
 BF> (Mac) 38
 BF>  Arcade                            45  Mozart: Dissonant Quartet  
 BF>       49
 BF>  Archives of History (DOS)         65  MPC Wizard (OEM)           
 BF>       14
 BF>  Archives of History (Mac)         69  MS Art Gallery             
 BF>       79
 BF>  Arctic Baron                      39  MS Art Gallery (Mac)       
 BF>       79
 BF>  Art Appeal Series                 89  MS-DOS Explorer 3          
 BF>       35
 BF>  Art of Ancient Egypt v.4          65  Multi Bible                
 BF>       89
 BF>  Art of Renaisance II              95  Multimedia Animal Encyc. (Mac)
 BF>    59
 BF>  Art Library 3 Pack                89  Multimedia Audio Collection
 BF>       30
 BF>  Arthur Teacher Troubl (MPC) (OEM) 22  Multimedia Audubon Birds (PC/Mac)
 BF> 19
 BF>  Arthur's Teacher Trouble (Mac)    49  Multimedia Audbn Mammals (PC/Mac)
 BF> 19
 BF>  ASP Advantage                     20  Multimedia Environments    
 BF>       29
 BF>  Astrology Source (PC/Mac)         59  Multimedia Handisc (Mac)   
 BF>       87
 BF>  Atlas of U.S. Presidents          26  Multimedia Magic Collection
 BF>       15
 BF>  Audioshop (Mac)                   75  Multimedia Mania           
 BF>       19
 BF>  Authorware Star (MPC) (OEM)       34  Murder Makes Strange Deadfellows
 BF>  45
 BF>  Autodesk Explorer                 85  Murmurs of Earth (3 disc) (PC/Mac
 BF> 44
 BF>  B17 Flying Fortress/S.S. II (OEM) 30  Music Magic                
 BF>       39
 BF>  Baccus and Comus (Mac)            50  Musical World Pro Piccolo  
 BF>       69
 BF>  Backroad Racers                   59  Mutanoid Math & Word Challenge
 BF>    39
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 BF>       12
 BF>  Barney Bear Goes to School        14  My Advanced Label Designer 
 BF>       54
 BF>  Barney Bear Goes to Space         14  The Myst (Mac)             
 BF>       79
 BF>  Barron's Book Notes (OEM)         30  NAFTA on CD-ROM (PC/Mac)   
 BF>       89
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 BF>       59
 BF>  Baseball's Greatest Hits (Mac)    59  National Parks of America (PC/Mac
 BF> 69
 BF>  Battle Chess (original) (OEM)     20  National Parks Guide (MPC) 
 BF>       54
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 BF>       20
 BF>  Battle Chess (enhanced) (Mac)     68  Nature Graphics I          
 BF>       26
 BF>  Beauty and the Beast (OEM) (MPC)  17  Nautilus Backpack Vol.II   
 BF>       41
 BF>  Beethoven: The 9'th Symphony      79  Nautilus Backpack Vol. III 
 BF>       69
 BF>  Berlitz Thnk Tlk French (PC/Mac) 105  Nautilus Backpack v.3 (Mac)
 BF>       69
 BF>  Berlitz T & T German (PC/Mac)    109  Nautilus Backpack v.4 (Mac)
 BF>       69
 BF>  Berlitz T & T Italian (PC/Mac)   129  Nautilus Backpack v.5 (Mac)
 BF>       69
 BF>  Berlitz T & T Spanish (PC/Mac)   109  Nautilus Best of MIDI (PC/Mac)
 BF>    79
 BF>  Best Business                     25  Nautilus Best of Ent. v.1 (Mac)
 BF>   54
 BF>  Best of Macintosh Shareware       49  Nautilus Best of Photography
 BF>      69
 BF>  Best of Microprose                22  Nautilus Intro (OEM)       
 BF>       19
 BF>  Better H&G Gardening (PC/Mac)     69  Naval Pack                 
 BF>       69
 BF>  Better H&G Hlthy Cooking (PC/Mac) 57  Nebula for NextStep        
 BF>       35
 BF>  Between Heaven and Hell 2         40  New Basics Electronic Cookbook
 BF>    58
 BF>  Bible Lands and Stories           40  New Basics Electronic Cookb
 BF> (OEM) 24
 BF>  Bible Library                     69  New Family Bible (MPC/Mac) 
 BF>       49
 BF>  Bible Library  (OEM)              24  New Kid on the Block
 BF> --- TMail v1.31.3
 BF>  * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190)

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From: RAY NOVINO                             Number: 11087
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/28/94  1:17p
Subj: 3 DISK CD-ROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Chestnut CD-ROM's, one of largest publishers of CD-ROMs in the world,
is happy to announce the release of their Shareware Overload Trio.

This HUGE 3 disk t is price at only $19.95 (plus $5.00 S/H).

STOP paying high prices for shareware CD-ROM's.  For a total of only
$24.95 you can obtain this full 3 disk set.

All files in the collection are 1993 and newer and contain Games,
Windows Programs, Education, Business, Religion, Communications,
Programmer's Tools, Desktop Publishing and lots more.

This may be the only CD-ROM you'll ever need to purchase and at this
low price you can't go wrong.

Complete file listings for all three disks can be found in SOT01.ZIP
on a local BBS or call (610) 623-6203 to download.

To order yours today have your Visa/MasterCard card ready and call:

(610) 623-2857 (Voice/FAX)
(610) 623-6203 (Data)
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From: RICK BERKHEIMER                        Number: 11088
  To: DAN PROCIV                               Date: 01/28/94  8:23a
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DP>-> Hello!
DP>Hello Janne,

DP>THE CD-MACHINE HAS OVER 500+ TITLES TO CHOOSE FROM, INCLUDING ALL ADULT TITL
DP>AVAILABLE ON CDROM!  TONS OF SHAREWARE / COMMERCIAL / GAMES / ETC.

DP>You may order by calling us at (503)236-4969 Voice/Fax 24 hrs / 7 days
DP>or (503)236-3266 / (503)236-0269 for Online Ordering on the BBS.

DP>                     P.O. BOX 13304
DP>                     PORTLAND, ORE
DP>                     97213-0304

DP> >>>>>>>>>>>GIANT CDROM CATALOG AVAILABLE FOR MAILING ON REQUEST!!>>>>>>>>>

Please send catalog to:

Rick Berkheimer
3447 Williams NE
Salem, OR 97303

 * SLMR 2.0 #T348 * I miss my ex-wife, but my aim is getting better ....


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From: SCOTT CARTIER                          Number: 11089
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/27/94  3:21p
Subj: CD MUSIC FILES (.MOD)                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello,

        I was wondering if anyone knew of any CD's out there with alot
of .MOD sound files. I have seen some with a smattering of them in the
sound directory but are mostly shareware programs. If anyone knows of a
good offering of sound files on a CD, please let me know it's name and
if possible the typical price. Thanks.
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From: BRIAN EPSTEIN                          Number: 11090
  To: CHIP SLATE                               Date: 01/21/94  2:17p
Subj: Yea!                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Re: Re: !free Cd catalog!
 
>  -=> Quoting Joe Rinehart to All <=-

Would you send me one too please?

     Brian Epstein
     14 Woodlawn Avenue
     Bridgeton, NJ  08302-3907

Thanks!

K'tihrak Mang BBS OS/2 *16.8 DS 1:266/75 *OS/2 Support* 4 nodes  609.453.0541*

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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 11091
  To: GARY HEDBERG                             Date: 01/27/94  7:52p
Subj: Shareware Studio ]I[                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 > How much duplication between Shareware Studio ]I[
 > and Night Owl 11?

Honestly, Gary I do not know, as I have not seen a Night Owl since
version 9.

Here is a breakdown of files by the year.

Note:  This was created with the DOS FIND filter, so it may be off by
a bit.

1990:   85
1991:  191
1992: 1759
1993: 2814

The newest file on the disk is dated 09-01-93.

Loyd

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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 11092
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/27/94  9:10p
Subj: Custom CDROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** New format supported: 4MM DAT ***

I can transfer your programs and data from Tape, Floppy or Hard Disk
to Industry Standard recordable CDROM, which is compatible with any
ISO9660 compliant CDROM reader.


Price structure change:

           Setup (Floppy):  $100
             Setup (Tape):   $50

               First Disk:   $50
Additional copies (2 - 5):   $45
              UPS Ground :  $Free$
         UPS Blue (2 day):    $5
      UPS Red (overnight):   $15


Setup charges cover importing your data to our machine, and MINOR changes if
they are needed.  We're reasonable, and if there's a problem with your data,
you'll hear about it before we commit to CD.

Our product comes with a 30 day money back warranty against defects.   If it
won't work in your system, and we can't help you adjust your setups to use
it, return it for a full refund.

QUICK Same-day turnaround is the only way we do business.  Our service is
confidential and secure.   Fast, friendly, and honest.  That's why you
should make US your source for "one off" CDROM.


Getting your data to us:
------------------------
Formats Supported:   4mm DAT, QIC-40/80, DC6XXX Streaming Tape, Floppy.


Shipping:
---------
All orders to the 48 contiguous states are shipped via UPS ground unless
customer specifies a different mode.  Add $5 for UPS Blue label, $15 for
UPS Red label service.

Terms:
------
Prepay for service via certified funds.  Personal checks must clear our
bank before production begins.


For more information:
---------------------
Contact us by voice, or by any of the network addresses listed.

Loyd Craft
C/O Digital Enterprises
125 S. Saginaw
St. Charles, MI 48655

Voice: 517-865-6850     Internet: Loyd.Craft@fourstar.mi.org
 Rime: ->SPS             Fidonet: 1:239/900.0

(C) 1993 Digital Enterprises

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 11093
  To: JERRY ZELLER                             Date: 01/27/94  9:16p
Subj: CD ROM FOR TRADE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JZ>Rick - how about a world atlas?  Jerry

   Tell me about it and the price please.
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Registered Symantec Q&A Consultant


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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 11094
  To: RICK AURAS                               Date: 01/28/94  6:45a
Subj: CD ROM FOR TRADE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Rick - how much do you want in cash for the cd?  Jerry

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From: J. ALLEN                               Number: 11095
  To: TOM HUBER                                Date: 01/28/94  5:01p
Subj: Re: Rules, etc.                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TH> I am in the process of bringing my bbs on-line. I don't remember seeing
TH> rules or a moderator declaring him/herself. Who is the moderator, what
TH> are the rules, and, considering the amount of "adult" nature material
TH> discussed, this echo appears best limited to "mature" users. Right?
TH> 
TH> Thanks,
TH> Tom
TH> Star Spawn BBS

There are no rules here....Venders are allowed to post bogus competitor's
pricing....Vendors aren't required to honor any "we'll beat any price"
claims made here....Vendors are allow to post phony virus claims or start 
bogus virus rumors against competing CD-ROM disks.....Vendors are allowed
(required???) to flame other Vendors.....Vendors are allowed to judicate
their claims and litigations here...."R" CD-ROM disk producers are allowed to
threaten and intimidate (FBI bust, etc.) "X" CD-ROM disk producers.......
Just label this echo "CD-ROM FORSALE -- ANYTHING GOES" for your users and
you should be OK.

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From: AMY MOODY                              Number: 11096
  To: JOSE VISBAL                              Date: 01/27/94  7:54a
Subj: Re: cd's for sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->AM> The Software Toolworks CD Deluxe Pack (3 Disks) Includes:
->AM> 21 Volume Multimedia Encyclopedia The San Diego Zoo
->AM> Presents...The Animals U.S. Atlas World Atlas Mavis
->AM> Beacon Teaches Typing ChessMaster 3000 Comes with original
->AM> 485 page manual.  $60.00

-> Will you take 45.00 for it....?
-> let me know i am interested in these cd's....

How about 50.00 and you pay shipping?

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From: RICK AURAS                             Number: 11097
  To: ALLEN DIETZ                              Date: 01/26/94 11:01a
Subj: USED CD-ROMS FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Allen Dietz to All <=-

 AD> I have ONE copy of each the following lightly *used* CD-ROM discs
 AD> for sale.  All discs are in excellent condition.  Call me at (512)
 AD> 444-9822 and leave a message if you're interested.  Add $3.00 per
 AD> order for shipping in the U.S.
 
 AD> Shakespeare (Complete works, Creative Multimedia Corp.).....$10.00
 
 AD> Allen Dietz

 Alan, can you tell me a little more on this one.  I am very interested.
 Is it strictly text (since it is from CMC I thought there may be more
 to it)?  Let me know.  Thanks.  Rick

... Rick Auras, P.O. Box 458821, San Antonio, TX 78280
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: ANGELLO HUONG                          Number: 11098
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 01/28/94  8:44a
Subj: Cd Trade?                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I sent out the disk Monday, but when I looked at my CDs, I discovered
that I accidently sent you out Storm 3.  If you want it that'll be fine.
If you don't, tell me and I'll send out the Storm 2. Sorry about the
slip up.
                                   
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From: DANIEL MARTIN                          Number: 11099
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 01/28/94 12:41a
Subj: 19$ROM offers 4DOS/NOS 20               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÿ@SUBJECT:19$ROM offers 4DOS/NOS 200 Char Descs                       N
-> I would like it if when you produce CD-ROM's you would include a
-> 4DOS/NDOS style DESCRIPT.ION in each directory. That way those of use
-> that use 4DOS

Hi Israel, thanks for bringing it up, BigSky ROM Publishings Shareware
CD-ROM's have had descript.ion files from day one, as Max Hill sent you
info yesterday on it, he asked me to tell you and others a little bit
more about what we offer, I'm a REAL BIG Fan of 4DOS myself and the new
4DOS Version 5 offering 200 character descriptions has really got me
excited about our 1st in the TopDrawer Series, as it includes support
for it. The CD-ROM Production Utility that I've developed lays down all
of our file lists from a master set that is known to be free of missing
or duplicate file names as part of the final processing phase, it was
pretty easy to include the 4DOS/NOS descript.ion files, why others don't
I can't figure out myself, but not only does my code put them down for
the files in the collection it also builts descriptions on all the
subdirectory tree entries and text file description lists!!  On BigSky
#1 the description files took our native 45 character 1st line and
compressed it into 40 characters by space removal and/or vowel removal
to get the first line to fit, but now with the 200 character
descriptions you can really start having fun just reading all the detail
placed on the archives from a simple DIR command. With the built in
linewrap they now have, be it from 4DOS or 4OS2 (16 or 32 bit) or 4NT
for Windows NT users, BigSky ROM's is ready to go for you, so thanks for
asking, if your an End User or a BBS Sysop that doesn't want megabytes
blown away on your hard disk from some 'User Interface' install program
and/or be faced with learning another search engine, consider sticking
with us.. I'll always place descriptions on our products, thats a GIVEN!
Anyways, I'm hoping that Norton Desktop for Windows will or does soon
support the description files, heres a sample of our TopDrawer when
viewed from a 4DOS/NOS users standpoint as best as I can send over the
net...and by the way all the latest versions of JP Softwares Shells for
the different operating system platforms is in the TopDrawer collection.
I've had to squezze them up a bit, and remove the time fields so hope
they come through formated for you ok..

 Volume in drive F is BIGSKY02
 Directory of  f:\bigsky02\*.*
.            <DIR>     12-12-93   0:05
..           <DIR>      1-19-94  15:18
DL01         <DIR>     12-12-93  19:45 Applications
DL02         <DIR>     12-12-93  19:45 Banner/Label Programs & Forms
DL03         <DIR>     12-12-93  19:45 Business Accounting & Finance
.
DL13         <DIR>     12-12-93  19:45 GAMES and Educational Programs
.
93_10_01.lst   544838  1-19-94 13:42 List of Files from 10/1/93
93_12_01.lst   352092  1-19-94 13:40 List of Files from 12/1/93
94_01_01.lst   113682  1-19-94 13:47 List of Files from  1/1/94
allfiles.lst  1841214  1-19-94 12:11 List of AllFiles Area/Alpha+Info
bigsky02.zip   537007  1-19-94 12:16 Archived version of AllFiles.Lst
   3,395,796 bytes in 55 file(s)         3,405,824 bytes allocated
           0 bytes free

Sample of the new 200 character 4DOS v5 descriptions found on TopDrawer!
Volume in drive F is BIGSKY02
 Directory of  f:\bigsky02\dl13\*.*
.          <DIR>    12-12-93
..         <DIR>    12-12-93
desraid.zip  432023 12-18-93 Desert Raid: In his most daring mission
                             to date Skunny takes to the skies and
                             armed with his trusty bi-plane he takes
                             on the most manic person Sadman Insane.
  76,888,575 bytes in 365 file(s)       77,266,944 bytes allocated
           0 bytes free

See our ad posted yesterday for ordering....

                                     Dan - CoPublisher BigSky ROMs
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11100
  To: DAN PROCIV                               Date: 01/28/94  1:43a
Subj: Cd's Wanted                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DP:>-> Night Owl 6
DP:>-> Night Owl 9

DP:>-> If anyone has any of these titles and would like to sell/trade them
pleas
DP:>-> leave me a message.

Dan,

We have Night Owl 6.2 in stock at $15.90, and version 9 at $23.40.  Call if
you need any!

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.00


 * SLMR 2.1a * Hello, I am Mike and I am a baudaholic.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11101
  To: STEVE PESANT                             Date: 01/28/94  1:43a
Subj: CD-ROM PACKAGE SPECIALS                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SP:>Well Christmas is over and the bills have been paid...Time to get a little
m
SP:>good stuff for myself and the system..

SP:>What exactly are these disks:

SP:>                        * MIDI MUSIC SHOP

CA226 MIDI MUSIC SHOP - A MIDI users dream disc! Includes three great
MIDI-related programs, including ``Music Mentor'', ``Recording Session'',
and ``World of Music Sampler''. MPC  Price: $23.70

SP:>                        * MOD BLASTER

CA373 MODBLASTER MOD FILES - Contains Trakblaster software allowing you
to play, analyze, and manipulate music files that are in .MOD format. You
also get over 300 classical music, Jazz, Rock, and theme songs in .MOD
format. DOS  Price: $16.10

SP:>Are there any other good choices for MIDI and MOD music files on 1 disc?

We've had excellent response on the Soundware Collection CD's @ $19.

SP:>What type of price would I be looking at for the following package:

SP:>                        * Night Owls Version 11.0
SP:>                        * CD-Powerbox I
SP:>                        * CD-Powerbox II
SP:>                        * Pier II
SP:>                        * Pier III
SP:>                        * Cream Of The Crop II
SP:>                            -= SPECIAL DEALS CD's =-
SP:>                        * Winbox
SP:>                        * 600 MB Shareware
SP:>                        * CD-ROM Reference of CD-ROMS

Can let you have the above package for $145.

SP:>Are there any other good choices right now that have a GREAT selection of
th
SP:>hottest and NEWEST shareware titles? I currently own Night Owls 7-10 and a
f
SP:>older titles.

The best ones right now for new files are Powerbox 2, Cream 2, Night Owl
11, and Monster Media vol 3.  Pier 4 will be out in mid-February. Can't
wait!

SP:>Is there a Pier IV coming out soon? And do you still stock Pier I? It
always
SP:>nice to start a collection and continue on with it?

Answered above.  I don't currently stock Pier 1, but have been getting some
requests for them lately, so I'll probably put a few more in stock shortly.

Hope this helps,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.00


 * SLMR 2.1a * The magic of Windoze: Turning a 486 into an XT.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11102
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/28/94  1:43a
Subj: HOTTEST NEW SHAREWARE CD!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |     Title:  CD POWERBOX 2     |  |     $25.60      |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

      ** IT'S HERE! **  And be sure to check our great bonus paks below!
      ** BBS file support for Spitfire, PCBoard, Wildcat and others!

      The nicest BBS-ready shareware CD on the market has arrived!
      CD Powerbox 2.00 is a shareware disc featuring 600 Megs worth
      of brand new, PURE 1993 shareware files, with one HUGE difference!
      It contains Damar's new UNVIVERSAL INTERFACE or UI.  The UI offers
      the ability to manage most or all of your shareware CD's, without
      the hassle of always changing interfaces!  Here are some of its
      outstanding and unique features............................

      * Automatic installation of shareware disks
      * Support for over 15 different disks
      * New titles being added constantly!
      * Add or Remove titles with the click of the mouse button
      * Windows or DOS-based with Rich context-sensitive online help
      * Windows interface supports voice commands!
      * Quick and easy search feature to find specific programs
      * Copy an archive to your hard drive or install it directly off a CD!
      * View inside an archive right off the ROM!

      The UI is a commercial program and is NOT considered shareware.
      There is no cost for the UI when purchased with any of the Damar
      Enterprises CD-ROM products!

      The % of dupes between PowerBox2 and NOWL10 = 7.94% * PIER3 = 12.85%

 File dates.....    1993  File   %    Apx 'K'    %
                    ====  ==== =====  ======== =====
                       1   362  6.7%    24,601  4.1%   +------------------+
                       2   435  8.0%    33,095  5.5%   | Over 500 more    |
+------------------+   3   661 12.2%    53,387  8.8%   | files than Night |
| File listing     |   4   371  6.8%    33,852  5.6%   | Owl 10!          |
| available on the |   5   245  4.5%    22,427  3.7%   +------------------+
| Starvector BBS:  |   6    93  1.7%    10,369  1.7%
| 509-457-0206     |   7   852 15.7%   116,232 19.3%
+------------------+   8 2,162 39.7%   283,195 46.9%
                       9    24  0.4%     2,431  0.4%
                      10    67  1.2%    11,283  1.9%
                      11    76  1.4%     8,997  1.5%
                      12     0  0.0%         0  0.0%

 SPECIAL BONUS PAKS:
 -------------------
 1. CD Powerbox 2 + CD Powerbox 1.01 (no dupes!)........................$31
 2. CD Powerbox 2 + CD Winbox 1.01......................................$42
 3. CD Powerbox 2 + OS/2Box.............................................$45
 SUPER SPECIAL: ALL FOUR DISCS (Powerbox 1 & 2, OS/2Box, and Winbox)....$55

 ORDERS...............509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 FAX/INFO/ORDERS......509-457-2966..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 400+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * I can't steer without my beer.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11103
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/28/94  1:43a
Subj: CD-ROM PRE-ORDER SPECIALS               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

           ______________________________________________________
          |                                                      |
          |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #3:  CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS   |
          |______________________________________________________|

            We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
             - Cards are not processed until date of shipment -

 THE 11TH HOUR * Exciting sequel to 7th Guest. Don't miss out!.......$59.00
 CD SOURCEBOX * Current code for VisualBasic, Pascal, and C..........$29.00
 PIER 4 * What WILL be the hottest new shareware CD of 1994..........$29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 ORDERS...............509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 FAX/INFO/ORDERS......509-457-2966..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 400+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * It's Ensign Pillsbury....he's bread Jim.

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From: STEPHEN FENNER                         Number: 11104
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 01/28/94 12:00a
Subj: CD-lists                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi could you send me a copy also of your updated cd list. Thanks
Stephen Fenner
RR#2 Hubbards
Halifax Co.NS
B0J-1T0
Canada


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From: MICHAEL CHAMBERLAIN                    Number: 11105
  To: JOHN COOK                                Date: 01/27/94  6:06a
Subj: CD-ROM Catalog\Sales                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting John Cook to All <=-

 JC> THE EXCHANGE TelCom
 JC> 3123 Louise Street
 JC> Tallahassee, FL
 JC> 32304-2727

 JC> Massive selection of CD-ROMs. Commercial, PD, and Adult.

 JC> To request a catalog or place an order:  1-800-832-0722

Can you send a catalog to:

Michael Chamberlain
PSC 03, BOX 1856
APO AA  34003

Mike

... CONNECT 110?!? Help! I'm in s l o w  m o t i o n !!
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From: BILLY STEWART                          Number: 11106
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/27/94  8:18p
Subj: !free Cd Catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would also like one of your CD catalogs....
Thanks
Billy Stewart
1150 Rock Grove Church Rd
Salisbury, NC 28146
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From: DAVID CARMICHAEL                       Number: 11107
  To: JASON RUIZ                               Date: 01/26/94  8:43p
Subj: Printer(s) For Sale                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > which type of HP ink jet is it??

 > --- GEcho 1.00
 >  * Origin: Sub-Rosa Caddyless???  Pshaw, right...
 > (1:381/74)
For sale:
(one of the following items, which ever sells first I will keep the other one
form my personal use!)

Panasonic KX-P1124 24 Pin Dot Matrix Printer, with 32K Memory Buffer upgrade.
All Manuals (and I think box & packaging unless storage shed leaked onto it)
Asking: $150.00

HP DeskJET 500 Ink Jet Printer, with 256K memory cartridge.
All Manuals (and I think box & packaging unless storage shed leaked onto it)

Asking: $250.00
For $50.00 more will add the JetWARE font cartridge.. both cartridges sold new
for $125.00 each!

Call:
David (316) 524-9727

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From: RON PIERCE                             Number: 11108
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/27/94  8:18a
Subj: Cd / shareware                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If this is an inappropriate conference for this please accept my apology but it
is most definitely cd-rom related.

        Feathernet BBS version 3.xx through version 4.xx have appeared on some
CD-ROMs.  These versions of FeatherNet used a recursed directory structure in
the ZIP files.  Apparently, upload testers on some bbs' which provided the
files for the cd-roms destroyed the recursed directory structure rendering the
installation program helpless as it required PKUNZIP.EXE in the path to unzip
the bbs archives.  I have had over 10 calls in the last month from persons who
have been in the dilemna of trying to install the software and finding it would
not run.

        If you have a cd-rom with Feathernet BBS software versions 3.xx thru
4.xx please remove it from your file directory listing / database as it will
not run due to the above mentioned reason.

        The new Feathernet PRO! bbs does not need PKUNZIP for its installation
(has its own unZIP code "built-in" the installation program). It should be
available on niteowl #12.

        Thanks much,

        Ron Pierce


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From: DAVID RYDER                            Number: 11109
  To: DAN PROCIV                               Date: 01/28/94 12:43a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


DP> THE CD-MACHINE HAS OVER 500+ TITLES TO CHOOSE FROM, INCLUDING ALL
DP> ADULT TITLES AVAILABLE ON CDROM!  TONS OF SHAREWARE / COMMERCIAL /
DP> GAMES / ETC.

    >>>>>>>>GIANT CDROM CATALOG AVAILABLE FOR MAILING ON REQUEST!!>>>>>>>>>

    Dan, could you send me a catalog, to:
    1575 B-13 Military Rd, #123
    Niagara Falls, NY  14304


***David.
 Entered Jan 28,94   rn.1063@rose.com
   
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 11110
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 01/29/94 11:51a
Subj: CD-ROM READERS FOR SALE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Matt!

In a message to Bubba Therrien <01/27/94> Matt Bedtelyon wrote:


MB> Gee, where do you shop Bubba..... $90.00 for a External CD-ROM drive is
MB> unbelievable! Please supply all of us listeners with the info. I am hot
MB> for new deals!
MB> Matt Bedtelyon

MB> P.S. why did you reply to his message? Replies are normally for those
MB> who want, or need something???????

MB> Anyone else out there want some of these $90.00 NEW Hitachi CDR1503S
MB> drives Bubba has??????


My mistake, so sorry. I misunderstood the model numbers when looking
into it <STUPIDITY BLUSH>. I guess I had better get my facts in order
before spewing at the mouth. Once Again my apologies.
Bubba



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From: LONNIE WILKERSON                       Number: 11111
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/28/94 10:54p
Subj: -=19$ROM=-                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿
ÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙ
                         Triple Seven Media
                    Big Seven Media TopDrawer CD
ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿ÚÚÚ¿¿¿
ÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙÀÀÀÙÙÙ

           That's right a great ShareWare ROM for $19.00

Big Sky Rom's newest release, TopDrawer, is now  shipping;  for  you
who  have pre ordered, it's on its way.  Yeah, I know.  What kind of
ROM am I getting for 19 bucks?  ANSWER..............

              Possibly the best ROM you have to date!

This ROM is published by  SysOps  for the SysOp.  Tired of compiling
list and heaven knows what else to get a ROM online?   This  is  the
answer   you  have  been  waiting  for,  affordable  files  at  this
introductory price, to show what TopDrawer is and can do.  Files.bbs
in every DIR, so simple  it  can  be  run  on a test drive of QMODEM
(tm).  Plus SPITFIRE (tm) files  SFFILES.BBS.   And  you  4DOS  (tm)
users will find descript.ion files.  If you're a PC-BOARD(tm) SysOp,
you'll  find  a  comprehensive SETMEUP.exe that will install the ROM
for you!   (...You  do  have  to  have  it  in  the  CD-ROM player!)
grin........  All archives are compressed using pkzip  (PKWARE  (tm)
204G using maximum compression.  All archives and their members have
been  scanned  with  the  latest  virus  scanners.   All  files have
file_id.diz's in them, GOOD ONE's, at that; we added over 1,859 full
descriptions when none  were  available  or  the author thought that
high ASCII looked better.  And on TOP of all that, we  have  made  a
great   effort  to  remove  commercial  files  and  other  copyright
infringements.  Now, what this means is  that we set this ROM up for
the BBS, not the end user!!!!  We have,  because  of  current  legal
cases  and  judgments  within the publishing community, removed VOC,
WAVE, and MIDI sound files.   The  real programs are still there; we
just deleted the lawyer syndrome.  All of the GIF's are our own,  no
copyright infringements to worry about.  You are licensed as the ROM
owner  to  distribute  them  to your users.  There is also a feature
authors DIR.   That's  the  authors  we  felt exhibited professional
demeanor in program ability and distribution ease.   Plus,  we  have
the  text  files  that are the latest rage -- that is, we have STEVE
ROBERTS stuff, NOT  Megabytes  of  FAQ's  or  other drivel.  We have
taken great pains to think of the user and the SysOp.  You will find
your users cruising through this easy file system and  praising  you
for  the  setup (that is, if you have great users like we do).  Both
the SuperMart BBS  and  PC-MONTANA  BBS  have handicapped users, and
thought went into the files  and  their  placement  to  enhance  the
interface  for  these  special  individuals.   Ok,  now to the brass
tacks: Files -- there are  4,174;that's 624 Mb + uncompressed.  Dirs
-- no, not 50 or 60, just 45 ; and this ROM will interface with  our
first release, BIG SKY 01, so you don't have to do a major setup all
over  again!  You've probably heard other SysOps saying that they're
removing such  and  such  ROM  offline  because  of  one  problem or
another.  We listen to these SysOps; you are our  bread  and  butter
(low  cost  spread  in this ROM's price).  Now, where can I get this
ROM?  Well, read the list and  you  can order this baby online or by
voice.

                       TRIPLE SEVEN MEDIA,ltd
          Data  1-817-561-4606 Head Hunter BBS      (24hr)
          Data  1-817-921-6106 Universal Connection (24hr)
          Data  1-817-649-1436 Babylon One BBS      (10pm 9am)
          Voice 1-817-246-0400 Lonnie Wilkerson     (8am 9pm)
          Voice 1-817-649-1436 John Mieske          (12pm 9pm)

                         THE SUPERMART BBS
                        Data  1-406-586-3774
                        Voice 1-406-586-8344

                           PC-MONTANA BBS
                        Data  1-406-284-3120

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From: CHRIS JOHNSON                          Number: 11112
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/28/94  2:52p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JR> For 1,500+ CD-Titles & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
 JR> CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip, descript.zip (or) MAJIC word CONFIG gets both
 JR> The Blue Parrot CD-ROM SUPPORT RBBS offers non-backboned echo config
 JR> for daily cdlist updates, news, game reviews, & more.
 JR> All config.sys cd-rom support files are available to all NEW users!

 JR> Fido: 1:157/479 - RBBS: 8:965/13 - Kesher: 18:711/176 - WWIV: 2@2659
 JR> Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.|Voice: (216) 296.9831 or 296.4446 24hrs
 JR> P.O. Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240  |BBS/Fax: 216.296.2244 - 23hrs 16.8k ZYX
 JR> Internet: joe@config.wariat.org|>>>>>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<<<

        Will you please mail me a copy to:

                Chris Johnson
                1302 Concord Ave
                Southlake Texas
                76092-9499


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 11113
  To: J. ALLEN                                 Date: 01/30/94  7:57p
Subj: Re: Rules, etc.                         Refer: 11095
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Just label this echo "CD-ROM FORSALE -- ANYTHING GOES" for your users
-> you should be OK.

I like that...

tim
moderator
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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 11114
  To: JERRY ZELLER                             Date: 01/28/94  9:32a
Subj: CDs to SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

26 Jan 94 07:17, Jerry Zeller wrote to Roger Davis:

 JZ> Roger - would you give more information on the wilsondisc reader's digest
 JZ> cd please?  Jerry

NOT reader's digest .... Readers' Guide Abstracts

Select Edition     Indexing & Abstracting Coverage 6/88 - 1/28/93

by H.W. Wilson Company 1-800-367-6770

Roger

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From: BOB HAMILTON                           Number: 11115
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/29/94 10:57a
Subj: Pioneer DRM 600A for sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have one Pioneer DRM 600A for sale.  This unit was purchased in July of 1993
and is in top notch shape.  It comes with an adapter and 50 pin cable.  All
necessary software is included.
 
The unit will hold 6 CD-ROM's and switches between them.  The unit is perfect
for a BBS.  You assign drive letters to each CD and it just acts like 6 CD-ROM
drives.  There is a very brief pause as the system unloads one disk and loads
the next one - but nothing really noticable.
 
The only limitation with any of these units is that you can't download from two
different disks at the exact same time.  Most BBS software (Remote Access,
PC-Board, WildCat, etc) will copy the file from the CD to the hard disk for
downloading anyway so that's not a problem.
 
Reason for selling:  I just ordered an 18 disk player.
 
I will take offers until I hear that my 18 disk player has been shipped.  At
that time, the highest offer takes the unit.  I can accept Visa or Master Card
through my company.  I guarantee the unit to be in working condition for 30
days with a full refund (hey, I'm not a huge company - just a fellow BBS
sysop).
 
Respond as follows:  Day Voice number:  (306) 359-3333
                     Evening/Weekend:   (306) 789-9080
                     Fax:               (306) 789-6614
                     BBS: 1:140/121     (306) 789-1899
 
Bob. 
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From: LAYN HUFFMAN                           Number: 11116
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 01/29/94 12:25p
Subj: cd trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Yea Greg, How bout a trade for Ecstasy Hot Pics!

Layn Huffman

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From: LAYN HUFFMAN                           Number: 11117
  To: ROGER DAVIS                              Date: 01/29/94 12:25p
Subj: CDS TO SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Roger, how bout a trade of your XXX Extreme for Ecstasy Hot Pics.
BBS ready, Mostly XXX gifs, includes several directories on the 
bizarre (kinky stuff). Also contains animations of .FLI and .GL with 
viewers.

Layn Huffman

 * 1st 1.11 #3324 * Is that a real yes or a Clinton 'Yes'.

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 11118
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/27/94  9:07a
Subj: Shareware CD Dates                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Computer Works is going to be focusing in on shareware CD-Roms more so 
than in the past.  As I gather information on the different BBS Ready 
discs, I will pass it on to the readers of this conference.  The 
following is information concerning file dates on most popular shareware 
discs. I will release more info as it becomes available. 
 
                            File Dates in Percent 
 
Title                   1990    1991    1992    1993    Files   Megs 
_______________________________________________________________________ 
Big Sky Rom             27.9    26.0    32.8     5.1    7024    649 
Cream of the Crop 2      0.0     0.0     0.0   100.0    5719    600 ? 
Shareware Extravaganza  15.9    23.3    30.1     0.0   25376    ? 4 CDs 
Giga Games              17.7    28.3    17.8     5.2    2007    211 
So Much Modem Madness    0.0    14.1    35.1    50.8    7839    599 
Night Owl Games          0.7     0.9    16.9    81.4     916    126 
Night Owl Graphics       0.0     0.0    31.8    68.1    4562    637 
Night Owl 8              4.6     4.6    64.7    25.8    4945    ? 
Night Owl 9              0.0     0.0     0.0   100.0    4962    662 
Night Owl 10             0.0     0.0     0.0   100.0    5139    632 
OS/2 Box                 0.0     0.0    21.3    78.7    2029    281 
Pier 3                   0.0     0.0     0.0   100.0    4547    660 ? 
CD PowerBox 1.0          4.9    15.7    76.7     0.0    6805    605 
CD PowerBox 2.0          0.0     0.0     1.3    98.4    5640    637 
So Much Screenware       0.1     0.9    99.0     0.0    1905    ? 
So Much Shareware 3      0.2     2.6    53.5    43.7    5598    650 ? 
Tech Arsenal             8.6    27.2    33.9    30.3    7255    632 ? 
Top Drawer #1            0.0     0.1     0.5    96.5    4146    592 '94+ 
Software Vault 2         0.0     0.0     0.1    99.9    7969    ? 
Software Vault Gold      0.0     0.0     0.1    99.9    6148    579 
Software Vault Games     1.0     2.1     5.3    90.5     935    149 
Software Vault Windows   0.0     0.0     0.4    99.6    1852    267 
 
Notes: <1> The ? means that the byte sizes in the file list used for 
           the analysis were not compatible with the analysis program. 
           In some cases total megs stats were supplied by the producer. 
       <2> If the total percentages do not add up to 100.0%, then there 
           are earlier files or incorrect dates on some files. The one 
           exception is Top Drawer #1, which has 3% 1994 dated files. 
       <3> Accuracy of the above data is dependent on accuracy of the 
           file dates provided by the producer. Computer Works is not 
           liable for any inaccuracies in the data. 
       <4> All of the above file lists are available for download from 
           Computer Works. 
 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Orders, File lists, Catalogs 
 
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From: WILL JUNG                              Number: 11119
  To: DAN LEHTOLA                              Date: 01/28/94  6:04p
Subj: Re: Medical CD's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested in Medical CD's also, I know they have the PDR, Mayo Clinic,
Family doctor etc... they should have alot more out there, I'm doing research
on those... I'll be an RN in 3 months, call the nursing networks (Deleware,
FLorida) and I'll probably be there.

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From: JAMES THORNE                           Number: 11120
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/25/94  6:58a
Subj: SOFTWARE TOOLWORKS ENCYC                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For sale or trade:

1993 Software toolworks multimedia encyclopedia (Groliers) for Windows.  I 
have 2 copies and will sell for $35 ea. or trade for other CDs, no 
shareware please.

James Thorne


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From: RICK AURAS                             Number: 11121
  To: BRIAN KELLER                             Date: 01/27/94  1:46p
Subj: ***GAMES FOR SALE***                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Brian Keller to All <=-

 BK> Kings Quest 6 on CD-ROM $20.00

 If this is shipped than I'll take it.  Just give me an address to send
 payment.  Thanks.  Rick

... Rick Auras, P.O. Box 458821, San Antonio, TX 78280
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: WILLIAM TYE                            Number: 11122
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/28/94 10:41p
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Joe Rinehart to All <=-

 JR> For 1,500+ CD-Titles & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...




Please send a CATALOG to me.

	William E. Tye, Jr.
	206 West Denison Street
	Waco, Texas 76706-5028


Thanks!

... "Milhouse, we live in the age of cooties!"  - Bart Simpson
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 11123
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/28/94  9:14p
Subj: 3 NEW WAYS TO PAY!                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Did indeed, and glad to hear it finally arrived.  All shipments to
-> California have been spotty lately.

You mean shaky, don't you?  <g>
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 11124
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/28/94  9:18p
Subj: Best New $19 SHAREWARE CD               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÿ@SUBJECT:Best New $19 SHAREWARE CDROM                                N
           That's right a great SHAREWARE ROM
                   for ONLY $19.00

Big Sky Rom's newest release, TopDrawer, will ship 2/3/94.
For you who have pre ordered, you'll be the first to get one.
Yeah, I know.  What kind of ROM am I getting for 19 bucks?

                       ANSWER

        Possibly the best ROM you have to date!

This ROM is published by SysOps for the SysOp.  Tired of
compiling list and heaven knows what else to get a ROM
online?

This is the answer you have been waiting for, affordable
files at this introductory price, to show what TopDrawer
is and can do.

Files.bbs in every DIR, so simple it can be run on a test
drive of QMODEM (tm). Plus SPITFIRE (tm) files SFFILES.BBS.
And you 4DOS (tm) users will find descript.ion files.
If you're a PC-BOARD(tm) SysOp, you'll find a comprehensive
SETMEUP.exe that will install the ROM for you! (...You do
have to have it in the CD-ROM player!) grin........
All archives are compressed using pkzip (PKWARE (tm) 204G
using maximum compression.
All archives and their members have been scanned with the
latest virus scanners.

All files have file_id.diz's in them, GOOD ONE's, at that;
we added over 1,859 full descriptions when none were available
or the author thought that high ASCII looked better.

And on TOP of all that, we have made a great effort to remove
commercial files and other copyright infringements.
Now, wht this means is that we set this ROM up for the BBS,
not the end user!!!!

We have, because of current legal cases and judgments within the
publishing community, removed VOC, WAVE, and MIDI sound files. The
real programs are still there; we just deleted the lawyer syndrome.
All of the GIF's are our own, no copyright infringements to worry
about. You are licensed as the ROM owner to distribute them to your
users.

There is also a feature authors DIR.  That's the authors we felt
exhibited professional demeanor in program ability and distribution
ease.  Plus, we have the text files that are the latest rage -- that
is, we have STEVE ROBERTS stuff, NOT Megabytes of FAQ's or other
drivel. We have taken great pains to think of the user and the SysOp.
You will find your users cruising through this easy file system and
praising you for the setup (that is, if you have great users like we
do).

Both the SuperMart BBS and PC-MONTANA BBS have handicapped users,
and thought went into the files and their placement to enhance the
interface for these special individuals.

Ok, now to the brass tacks:  Files -- there are 4,174;that's 624 MB +
uncompressed.  Dirs -- no, not 50 or 60, just 45 ; and this ROM will
interface with our first release, BIG SKY 01, so you don't have to do
a major setup all over again!

You've probably heard other SysOps saying that they're removing such &
such ROM offline because of one problem or another. We listen to these
SysOps; you are our bread and butter (low cost spread in this ROM's price).

Now, where can I get this ROM?  Well, read the list and you can order
this baby on-line or by fax (24 hours) or by voice (9-8 EST Mon-Sat).

*** PCJ COMPUTING ***   Data  -  1-615-478-2890   We stock 700+ titles
  All major credit      Fax   -  1-615-479-1047   Lowest prices around
  cards accepted        Voice -  1-615-339-0235   Download BIGSKY2.ZIP
  with no surcharge     Orders-  1-800-547-7817   for the files list.
                      Internet-  Douglas.Carpenter@Junction.Cld9.Com
                    Compuserve-  71754.3514@Compuserve.Com

                                 **  DEALER INQUIRIES WELCOME **

    PC-MONTANA BBS      Data  -  1-406-284-3120  THE MOTHER BOARD for
   (Product Support)                                BIG SKY ROMs !
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 11125
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/28/94  9:19p
Subj: Order Nightowl 11                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        *****   PRE-ORDER NIGHTOWL 11  *****

  PCJ Computing is now accepting orders for the new
  Nightowl 11 CDROM disc.  4,378 Files - 650 Meg.

               OUR  PRICE  -  $28.95

  We should be shipping during the week of 1/24/94.
      Orders - 615-339-0235  FAX 615-479-1047
   We also have most of the latest shareware CDs.
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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 11126
  To: J. ALLEN                                 Date: 01/28/94  9:22p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11 NOW SHIPPING               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello J.!

Thursday January 27 1994 17:59, J. Allen wrote to Mike Shannon:


 MS>> * Night Owl 10.1 + 11...........(All '93 + No Dupes!)..........$49
 MS>> * Night Owl 9 + 10.1 + 11.......(All '93 + No Dupes!)..........$69
 MS>> * Night Owl 8 + 9 + 10.1 + 11.........(No Dupes!)..............$85

 JA> Are these the same Nite Owl disks your selling that you keep saying are no
 JA> good or some other Nite Owl disks?

They are the same Night Owl discs that MANY of us keep saying are "no good,"
but Mike has REPEATEDLY stated that his opinion wouldn't keep him from selling
the disc.  Night Owls may be a piece of crap, but Mike is no idiot... he stocks
what sells.  He has never stated otherwise.

Nice try, though.

Later,

Dave

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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 11127
  To: DAN PROCIV                               Date: 01/28/94  2:07p
Subj: Re: !FREE CDROM CATALOG!!!              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send a copy of your catalog to:
    J. Ellen Cotton
    1105 N.W. 6th Place
    Moore, OK 73170-1201
                   thanks!

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 11128
  To: TOM MILLER                               Date: 01/29/94  1:55a
Subj: Re: New Night Owl                       Refer: NONE
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On 25 Jan 94 09:25am, Tom Miller wrote to Boris Osadciw:

BO>>>             N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E

BO>>> * Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous Versions
  >>> * All Zipped Files      * New Viewer     * 60% Files
  >>> Released last 90 days

>>>    Sorry to have to bring this up, but what about viri?  Are
>>>    there any in this version???

BO>>For an additional fee of $5.00 you can have 3 virus placed on the cd if
BO>>you'd like Craig !!

>>    Boris,
>>         Do you have a bundle deal, and do you get to pick the 
>>         type of virus ;^).

>>    Tom Miller

Gee Tom, you should know better than to ask that !! We'll give you anything
you want, so what will it be ??  grin -:)



Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 11129
  To: DANIEL SHERMAN                           Date: 01/29/94  1:55a
Subj: Re: NIGHT OWL 11                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 23 Jan 94 08:18am, Daniel Sherman wrote to Boris Osadciw:

BO>>             N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E
BO>> 
BO>> * Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous Versions
BO>> * All Zipped Files      * New Viewer     * 60% Files Released last 90 days
BO>> "Night Owl 11. "  offer's over 5,000 all new files and supports for areas
BO>> such as Windows, OS/2, Games, Fonts, Ham Radio, Lan, Business and more !
BO>>            Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
BO>>    Best Of The Best - Night Owl 11. + Cream Of The Crop II - $50.00
BO>> 
BO>> ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX
216-225-6759

>>     Hey Boris I will be calling You about this cd later in the 
>>     month but could You possibly get Me some Literature on the 
>>     Sattelite system that You have. Both Prices for computer only 
>>     and for computer and TV applications. Would like to possibly 
>>     get it by the middle of the Year but would like some prices 
>>     so I know how much to save up (approx.) 

Daniel, your netmail reply and file are on the way to you.

 Enjoy...

Boris Osadciw

... Xpress Yourself!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 11130
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/29/94  1:55a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11.                           Refer: NONE
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            N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E

* Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous Versions
* All Zipped Files      * New Viewer     * 60% Files Released last 90 days
"Night Owl 11. "  offer's over 4,500 all new files and supports for areas
such as Windows, OS/2, Games, Fonts, Ham Radio, Lan, Business and more !
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
   Best Of The Best - Night Owl 11. + Cream Of The Crop II - $50.00

ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Protected Mode Xpress! It's hot!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 11131
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/29/94  1:55a
Subj: ALL NEW MONSTER CD                      Refer: NONE
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)))))))))))))))))))  M O N S T E R  M E D I A  93  NO 3 ((((((((((((((((((((((

650 Megs          All Programs Cover Sep - Dec 1993             No Dupes
New File Viewer - Several Files.BBS Formats + Conversion Programs - Manual
4,700+ Files - Covering everything from ACAD to Word Proccessors and more !

                            Price - $30.00

    ORDERS ONLY 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't Read Mail Without it!
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From: JOHN NICKLAS                           Number: 11132
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/28/94  9:17p
Subj: Pioneer cd-rom changer fo               Refer: NONE
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@SUBJECT:PIONEER CD-ROM CHANGER FORSALE                              N PIONEER
CD-ROM CHANGERS...

PIONEER 600A 6-CD ROM Changer 400ms ac. time, 150k trans. rate....... $699.00
PIONEER 602X 6-CD ROM Changer 300ms ac. time, 300k trans. rate....... $950.00

*** These CD-ROM CHANGER are 4 times as fast as regular CD-ROM PLAYER!!! ***
PIONEER 604X 6-CD Rom Changer 300ms ac. time, 660k transfer rate.... $1079.00
PIONEER 1804X 18-CD Rom Changer 300ms ac. time, 660k Tran rate 4X... $1999.00
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
INTERFACE 8-bit SCSI-2..............................................   $85.00
IMTERFACE 16-bit SCSI-2.............................................  $159.00

We accept AMERICAN EXPRESS / DISCOVERY / MONEY-ORDERS Reply here or call
1-909-681-1580 ask for John Jr.

John Nicklas

Fido-Net 1:207/234

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11133
  To: RAJAT SETHI                              Date: 01/26/94  4:14p
Subj: GERMAN LANGUAGE PROGR                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Where can one get the 7 CD German Program?

 Give me a call at (317) 726-1980 - I don't always have the Berlitz "Think and
Talk German" in stock, but I carry it and can get it on short notice (as long
as all 3 of the distributors I can get if from haven't ALL run out!)....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Favorite pets? Sleek ass, warm pussy, pert brests....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11134
  To: JIM RAMIREZ                              Date: 01/26/94  5:25p
Subj: NEC CDR-36 DRIVES                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>BTW... the 36's are double speed drives ???

 Older single-speed external drives.


 * SLMR 2.1a * A chicken is an egg's way of producing more eggs.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11135
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 01/27/94  3:29p
Subj: ADULT CD-ROM PRICES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>        How good is a disc called So Much Stareware?

 Depends on what you are looking for - I class it as "OK" myself....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Perot has a BAD case of Candidatus Interruptus.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11136
  To: ELLEN COTTON                             Date: 01/27/94  4:07p
Subj: JFK CDROM                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>Do you have any other info on the JFK Assassination Encyclopedia...such as
>price, availability, contents, etc.?

 Haven't had a copy yet to look at, but it's $49 on my current price list, and
I believe it's currently available.


 * SLMR 2.1a * A Cat WILL blink when hit by a hammer.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11137
  To: RICARDO E MOSQUERA, MD                   Date: 01/27/94  5:04p
Subj: % CD-ROM DISKS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I have interest in the PC-LIBRARY SIG 8 AND 9 EDITION

 Don't bother with 9 if you get 8 - everything on 8 is SUPPOSED to be on 9 (or
an updated VERSION is supposed to be on 9).


 * SLMR 2.1a * Never ask a hungry Cat if it likes you for yourself....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11138
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/28/94  1:14p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1 OF 5                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Brice's Library
 CD-ROM Price List 14 January 1993

 5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
 Indianapolis, IN 46220
 Tue Thu 11am - 8pm  Wed Fri 11am - 6pm  EST
 (317) 726-1980 voice  (317) 726-1387 BBS (24 hour, 1200/2400/v.32 supported)

 FidoNet 1:231/190   InterNet sysop@f190.n231.z1.fidonet.org
 All prices are in U.S. Dollars and include any applicable Sales Tax.
 U.S. Shipping included if prepaid (please allow 7 days for check to clear).
 Sales to out-of-U.S. addresses require payment in U.S. funds.
 We cannot accept Credit Card payment at this time.
 If you don't see a specific title that you are looking for, please CALL!
 I add new titles almost constantly!


 Infocomm 10 Year Aniversery Coll. 79  Louis Armstrong Multi Record      29
 1000 Sound Effects                49  Lovejoy's College Councel. (MPC)  79
 1001 Utilities                    10  Lovely Ladies II                  31
 1992 CD-ROM Collection w/CIA      63  Lucas Arts Game Pack II (OEM)     20
 20'th Century Almanac (5 disc)    72  Lucas Arts Mac Game Pack II       26
 20'th Century Art                 49  Lunicus (Mac)                     69
 20'th Century People (OEM)        25  Lyric Language French (PC/Mac)    40
 20'th Century Sports (OEM)        25  Lyric Language Spanish (PC/Mac)   40
 20000 Leagues Under the Sea (Mac) 69  MacMillan Dict for Children (OEM) 19
 3'd Body Adventure (MPC)          79  MacMillan Dict. for Children (Mac 39
 3D Tutor (Mac)                   119  Macromind Action! (OEM)           28
 501 Sound Waves                   19  Mad Dog McCree                    35
 600 Days to Cocos Island (Mac)    59  Made in the USA (PC/Mac)          36
 7'th Guest (OEM)                  36  Madness of Roland (Mac)           50
 7'th Guest (Mac)                  99  Magic Death (MPC)                 49
 9 Digit Zip Codes                 32  Magic Death (Mac)                 49
 9000 Sounds                       24  Magic Flute (Mac)                 55
 A Christmas Carol                 26  Majestic Places (PC/Mac)          36
 A Christmas Carol (FTL)           56  Mammals (Nat. Geographic)         23
 A Silly Noisy House (MPC)         59  Man Enough                        59
 A Silly Noisy House (Mac)         49  Manhole                           35
 A+ Grade Builder                  34  Manhole (OEM)                     25
 About Cows                        25  Manpower                          29
 AD&D Dark Sun: Shattered Lands    69  Mantis Experimental Fighter (OEM) 16
 AD&D Dungeon Hack                 49  Maps 'n' Facts PC Globe           47
 AD&D Fantasy Empires              59  Mario is Missing Deluxe (OEM)     20
 ADA Programming                   19  Mario Missing w/World Atlas (OEM) 20
 Adobe Type on Call                81  Mario Teaches Typing              64
 Adobe Type on Call (Windows)      83  Mars Explorer                     41
 Adventures                        40  Masterpiece Library               36
 Adventures in Heaven              15  Math Blaster Spot                 49
 Adventures of Pinocchio (MAC)     59  Matinee Screen Saver              43
 Adventures of Willy Beamish (OEM) 17  Mavis Beacon Typing (MPC) (OEM)   16
 Aegis Guardian Fleet              68  Max the Dragon (PC/Mac)           55
 Aesopolis (Mac)                   69  Mayo Clinic (MPC) (OEM)           18
 Aesop's Fables (eBook)            40  Mayo Clinic (Mac) (OEM)           24
 AGFA Intro PAC - 20 Typefaces     82  MCS CD Master                     29
 Airbrush Portfolio (PC/Mac)       69  MCS SOund Review vol. 1           39
 Air Warrier                       58  Media Clips 3-pack (MPC) (OEM)    45
 Aircraft Encyclopedia             27  Mega A/V                          26
 Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp    34  Mega Clipart (OEM)                27
 Aladdin's Lamp (EA) (DOS)         47  Mega CD-ROM v.1                   20
 All American Sports               47  Mega CD-ROM v.2                   26
 All Music Guide                   55  Mega Media I                      26
 Aloha, Hawaii!                    20  Mega Movie Guide                  39
 Alone in the Dark                 69  Mega ROM 3.2 (Mac)                89
 Amanda Stories (MPC)              41  Mega WinOS/2                      26
 Amanda Stories (Mac)              49  Megarace                          59
 Amazing Universe (PC/Mac)         59  Microcosm                         85
 America Adventure                 69  Microprose CD Sampler             15
 America Alive Guidedisc (DOS)     59  Microprose Collection (OEM)       28
 America Alive Guidisc (Mac)       87  Microsoft Bookshelf '93 (OEM)     38
 American Business Phone Book '92  14  Microsoft Golf                    45
 American Business Phone Book '93  25  Microsoft Mozart                  54
 American Heritage Ilus Ency Dict  50  Microsoft Multimedia Pack (OEM)   69
 American Journey 1896-1945        45  Microsoft Musical Inst. (Mac)     79
 American Vista Atlas (MPC) (OEM)  27  Microsoft Stravisky               54
 American Vista Atlas (Mac)        60  Microsoft Works (OEM)             38
 America's Premier Shareware       14  Middle East Diary                 26
 Americans in Space (PC/Mac)       57  MIDI Connection                   56
 Aminet                            15  MIDI Music Shop for Windows       17
 Anecdotes v.1                     14  Midnight Movie Madness            49
 Anecdotes v.2                     14  Might and Magic: World of Xeen    69
 Anecdotes v.3                     14  Mixed Up Mother Goose (OEM)       17
 Anglo-Saxons                      44  Monarch Notes (PC/Mac)            40
 Animal Alphabet (MPC)             49  Money, Money, Money! (OEM)        19
 Animal Kingdom (PC/Mac)           39  Monster Disk (2 discs)            30
 Animal Tales                      59  Monster Media '93                 23
 Animals Encyclopedia (MPC) (OEM)  27  Monster Media '93 #2              28
 Animals in Motion                 40  Mosaic Magic                      29
 Animals San Diego Zoo (DOS) (OEM) 19  Mosaic Magic (Mac)                49
 Animals San Diego Zoo (MPC) (OEM) 20  Mother of All Clip Art            14
 Animals San Diego Zoo (Mac) (OEM) 23  Motion Picture Guide              89
 Animation Festival (MPC) (OEM)    20  Movie Select                      55
 Animation Magic (Win)             58  Movie Select (Mac)                55
 Annabel's Dream Ancient Egy (Mac) 55  Movies on TV and Video (PC/Mac)   34
 Annabel's Dream Medival Eng (DOS) 69  Mowgli's Brothers                 36
 Annabel's Dream Medival Eng (Mac) 69  Mozart (MPC) (OEM)                20
 APL Volume I                      19  Mozart Multimedia Musicbook       37
 Apollo 8 Go For TLI               30  Mozart Multimedia Musicbook (Mac) 38
 Arcade                            45  Mozart: Dissonant Quartet         49
 Archives of History (DOS)         65  MPC Wizard (OEM)                  14
 Archives of History (Mac)         69  MS Art Gallery                    79
 Arctic Baron                      39  MS Art Gallery (Mac)              79
 Art Appeal Series                 89  MS-DOS Explorer 3                 35
 Art of Ancient Egypt v.4          65  Multi Bible                       89
 Art of Renaisance II              95  Multimedia Animal Encyc. (Mac)    59
 Art Library 3 Pack                89  Multimedia Audio Collection       30
 Arthur Teacher Troubl (MPC) (OEM) 22  Multimedia Audubon Birds (PC/Mac) 19
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble (Mac)    49  Multimedia Audbn Mammals (PC/Mac) 19
 ASP Advantage                     20  Multimedia Environments           29
 Astrology Source (PC/Mac)         59  Multimedia Handisc (Mac)          87
 Atlas of U.S. Presidents          26  Multimedia Magic Collection       15
 Audioshop (Mac)                   75  Multimedia Mania                  19
 Authorware Star (MPC) (OEM)       34  Murder Makes Strange Deadfellows  45
 Autodesk Explorer                 85  Murmurs of Earth (3 disc) (PC/Mac 44
 B17 Flying Fortress/S.S. II (OEM) 30  Music Magic                       39
 Baccus and Comus (Mac)            50  Musical World Pro Piccolo         69
 Backroad Racers                   59  Mutanoid Math & Word Challenge    39
 Baker's Dozen Game Pack Windows   15  MVP Game Jamboree                 12
 Barney Bear Goes to School        14  My Advanced Label Designer        54
 Barney Bear Goes to Space         14  The Myst (Mac)                    79
 Barron's Book Notes (OEM)         30  NAFTA on CD-ROM (PC/Mac)          89
 Barron's Book Notes (Mac)         74  Napoleonics                       59
 Baseball's Greatest Hits (Mac)    59  National Parks of America (PC/Mac 69
 Battle Chess (original) (OEM)     20  National Parks Guide (MPC)        54
 Battle Chess (enhanced) (OEM)     25  National Parks (MPC) (OEM)        20
 Battle Chess (enhanced) (Mac)     68  Nature Graphics I                 26
 Beauty and the Beast (OEM) (MPC)  17  Nautilus Backpack Vol.II          41
 Beethoven: The 9'th Symphony      79  Nautilus Backpack Vol. III        69
 Berlitz Thnk Tlk French (PC/Mac) 105  Nautilus Backpack v.3 (Mac)       69
 Berlitz T & T German (PC/Mac)    109  Nautilus Backpack v.4 (Mac)       69
 Berlitz T & T Italian (PC/Mac)   129  Nautilus Backpack v.5 (Mac)       69
 Berlitz T & T Spanish (PC/Mac)   109  Nautilus Best of MIDI (PC/Mac)    79
 Best Business                     25  Nautilus Best of Ent. v.1 (Mac)   54
 Best of Macintosh Shareware       49  Nautilus Best of Photography      69
 Best of Microprose                22  Nautilus Intro (OEM)              19
 Better H&G Gardening (PC/Mac)     69  Naval Pack                        69
 Better H&G Hlthy Cooking (PC/Mac) 57  Nebula for NextStep               35
 Between Heaven and Hell 2         40  New Basics Electronic Cookbook    58
 Bible Lands and Stories           40  New Basics Electronic Cookb (OEM) 24
 Bible Library                     69  New Family Bible (MPC/Mac)        49
 Bible Library  (OEM)              24  New Kid on the Block
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11139
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/28/94  1:17p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 2 OF 5                Refer: NONE
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 Big Bug Alphabet Book (DOS)       29  Newsweek Interactive v.1 (OEM)    18
 Big Bug Alphabet Book (Mac)       34  Newsweek Interactive v.2          50
 Big Green Disc (MPC)              79  Newsweek Interactive v.2 (OEM)    25
 Big Green Disc (Mac)              79  NFL Coaches Club Football         64
 Bikini Beach (PC/Mac)             59  Night Before Chrismas             35
 Billie Holoday Multi Record       29  Night Owl 9                       24
 Bingi Burra Stone (Mac)           29  Night Owl 10                      28
 Bloodnet                          64  Night Owl Business Software       19
 Blue Force                        46  Night Owl Games                   19
 Book of Lists #3 (PC/Mac)         75  Night Owl Graphics                24
 Book of Lists #3 (PC/Mac) (OEM)   40  Night Owl Publisher (OEM)         32
 Book of Shadowboxes (Mac)         49  Night Owl Windows                 36
 Boris Vallejo Fantasy Art         48  North American Fax Phonebook      27
 Brain Drain                       19  North American Indians            26
 Brain Games Trivia (MPC)          59  NOVA (for NeXT)                   20
 Bridge Deluxe w/ Omar Sharif      65  Nova Collection v.1               54
 Bring the World to Your Senses    15  Number 11 Downing Street          69
 Britain at it's Best              24  Nutcracker                        39
 Britannica Family Choice          21  Ocean Digital Imagery vol 1 (OEM) 23
 Britannica Select Software        17  Ocean in Motion (QT)              59
 Bugs Insect Advice                64  Ocean Life: Western Pacific       39
 Business Assistant                10  Ocean Life: vol.2 (PC/Mac)        49
 Business Backgrounds (PC/Mac)     31  Oceans Below (MPC) (OEM)          20
 Business Backgrounds (OEM)        20  Officer's Bookcase (OEM)          25
 Business CD                       34  Oldies but Goodies                16
 Business Library v.1              46  On Vacation in the Brit. Isles    29
 Business Library v.1 (OEM)        30  Orchestra (Mac)                   67
 Business Made Easy                39  Oregon Trail                      55
 Business Master I  (OEM)          17  Oregon Trail (Mac)                69
 Business Master II (OEM)          18  Original Shareware 1992           10
 Business Week 1000                89  OS/2 v2.1 Upgrade                 95
 Busytown                          48  Our House (Family Circus)         45
 Busytown (Mac)                    48  Our Solar System                  12
 Butterflies                       49  Oxford English Reference Library  94
 Buzz Aldrin's Race into Space     79  Pacific vol. 1 (3 disc) (PC/Mac)  34
 C User's Group Library            22  Pacific vol. 2 (3 disc) (PC/Mac)  34
 California Collection             12  Pacific Islands                   30
 California Daydreamer             29  Parenting (MPC/Mac)               59
 California/Hawaii Golf Guide      40  Patrician                         59
 California/Hawaii Golf Gde  (OEM) 23  PC/DOS Introductory Module (OEM)  12
 California Travel                 30  PC Game Room                      18
 Cameron's Fine Art Catalog        39  PC Globe                          69
 Campaign                          49  PC Globe Maps and Facts           45
 Canadian Shareware                15  PC Karaoke (OEM)                  30
 Capitol Hill (DOS)                25  PC Medic                          46
 Capitol Hill (MPC)                25  PC Medic (OEM)                    17
 Cars Cars Cars (DOS)              80  PC-SIG #12                        19
 Cars Cars Cars (QT)               80  PC-SIG #13 (preorder)             30
 Case of the Cautious Condor       37  PC-SIG Games                      15
 Casino Collection                 19  PC-SIG Home and Business          12
 Castle of Dr, Brain               54  PC-SIG World of Education         15
 Castles II                        69  PC-SIG World of Games             15
 CD CAD v3.7                       26  PC-SIG World of Utilities         15
 CD Funhouse (PC/Mac)              39  PC-SIG World of Windows           15
 CD Funhouse (PC/Mac) OEM          17  Peak Performance                  59
 CD OS/2box                        25  Pentomino                         22
 CD Power Pack                     99  Peter and the Wolf (MPC)          44
 CD Powerbox 2                     29  Peter and the Wolf (MPC) (OEM)    18
 CD ROM Deluxe Pack                26  Peter Gabriel Explor (Mac)        79
 CD ROM Deluxe Pack II             29  Peter Pan Painting Adventure      59
 CD-ROM of CD-ROMS                 28  Peter Pan Painting Advent. (Mac)  59
 CD Speedway (cache program)       58  Peter Rabbit Talking Storybook    21
 CD Storytime (OEM)                18  Pharmacist Guide to Drugs         29
 CD WinBox 1.01                    20  Phoenix #3                        11
 Chaos Continuum (MPC)             59  Phoenix #4                        16
 Chaos Continuum (Mac)             64  Phoenix Phun Games                26
 Chaos Fractals and Magic          30  Phonedisc USA Business            69
 Chefware                          45  Phonedisc USA Residential         59
 Chess Maniac 5 Billion            37  Photo Pro v.1: Patterns of Nature 70
 Chessmaster 3000 (MPC)            55  Photo Pro v.2: People Doing Thngs 70
 Chessmaster 3000 (MPC) (OEM)      19  Photo Pro v.3: Fotobank           89
 CIA World Fact Book (DOS)         45  Photo Pro v.3: Fotobank (OEM)     17
 CIA World Fact Book (MPC)         50  Photoedge Enhance PhotoCD Images 115
 CIA World Fact Book (OEM) (DOS)   15  Photoedge Enhance (Mac)          115
 CIA World Fact Book (OEM) (MPC)   21  Picture Atlas of the World        60
 CIA World Fact Book (Mac)         35  Picture Factory                   89
 CIA World Tour (MPC) (OEM)        29  Picture Factory (Mac)             89
 CICA Windows August 1993          14  Pier 3                            25
 City 2000                         43  Pilgram Quest                    109
 Classic Clips Horror              39  Pill Book                         35
 Classic Clips Sci Fi              39  Pixel Garden                      28
 Classic Clips Trailers            26  Pixel Perfect Graphics            50
 Classic Clips Vixens              39  Pixel Perfect Graphics (OEM)      17
 Classic Collection+ (4 discs)     51  Plant Doctor                      28
 Clip Art Warehouse (OEM)          12  Placename Index                   29
 Clip Media II (OEM) (MPC)         29  Places to Play                    49
 Clipart (Timeworks)               26  Playing with Languages: English   58
 Clipart Galore                    22  Playing w Languages English (OEM) 25
 Clipart Heaven                    15  Playing with Languages: French    55
 Clipmaster Pro                    30  Playing w Languages: French (OEM) 25
 Coates Art Review: Abstract Art   40  Playing with Languages: German    55
 Coates Art Review: Impressionism  30  Playing w Languages: German (OEM) 25
 College Handbook                  24  Playing with Languages: Japaneese 55
 College Handbook '93              39  Playing w Language Japanese (OEM) 25
 Color Digital Photos v.1 Premier  32  Playing with Languages: Spanish   55
 Color Digital Photos v.2 Space    32  Playing w Languages Spanish (OEM) 25
 Color It (Mac) (OEM)              26  Plummers Don't Wear Ties          29
 Colormagic Clip Art (PC/Mac)      20  Police Quest IV (MPC)             79
 Colossal Cookbook (OEM)           14  Pop & Politics                    60
 Comanche                          79  Power Talk (MPC)                  39
 Companion for Windows             17  Power Talk (MPC) (OEM)            25
 Companion for Wordperfect         17  Power Utilities                   29
 Complete Bookshop                 12  Precision Mapping #1.5            68
 Complete Guide Specl Intrst Video 30  Prescription Drugs                27
 Complete Home/Office Legal Guide  12  Presidents                        46
 Complete House                    29  Presidents (Mac)                  46
 Complete Windows Set              29  Presto Hi Rez Audio (Mac)        109
 Composer Quest                    65  Private Eye Mysteries             53
 Composer Quest (OEM)              26  Professional Tutor Learn Lotus    29
 Compton's Encyclopedia (MPC)(OEM) 52  Professional Tutor Learn Windows  29
 Compton's Family Choice           43  Programmer's ROM                  26
 Compton's Family Choice (OEM)     26  Project Gutenburg                 19
 Compton's Multimedia Golf Guide   34  Prophone end-year 1993 (7 discs)  99
 Compton's Interactive Encl. '94   89  Prophone Business Directory '93   25
 Compton's Interactive '94 (OEM)   69  Protostar                         69
 Compton's Int. Enc. '94 (upgrade) 79  Psycho Killer                     64
 Compton's Int. Enc. '94 (Mac upg) 99  Public Relations Handbook         49
 Computer Industry Almanac '93     19  Publique Arte                     27
 Computer Reference Library        12  Publish It 2.0 (GEM/DOS)          99
 Computerworks                     39  Publish It 2.0 (GEM/DOS) (OEM)    19
 Conan the Cimmerian               39  Publish It 3.0 (Mac)             129
 Conan the Cimmerian (OEM)         25  Publish It 3.1 (Win)              55
 Conquest of the Longbow           49  Publish It 3.1 (Windows) nofonts  44
 Consumer Information Disc         20  Publish It Easy 2.1 (Mac) (OEM)   29
 Cookbook Heaven                   14  Publishers Backgrounds            46
 Corel Art Show III                40  Publishers Paradise Pro           44
 Corel Draw 3.0 (OEM)              79  Publishers Paradise (OEM)         20
 Corel Draw 4.0                   349  Putt-Putt Goes to the Moon        50
 Corel Photo CD Hawaii             79  Putt-Putt Joins the Parade (Mac)  59
 Corel Photo CD Waterfalls         79  Putt-Putt's Fun Pack              27
 Count Basie Multi Record          29  Putt-Putt's Fun Pack (Mac)        39
 CP/M Programs                     20  Q & A
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 Cyber Race (Mac)                  69  Race the Clock                    49
 Cybergenic Ranger                 15  RBBS In A Box v3.1                26
 Daemonsgate                       39  Reader's Library                  20
 Dagger of Amon Ra                 49  Reading Carnival                  49
 Dagger of Amon Ra (OEM)           32  Rebel Assault                     69
 Dandy Dinosaurs                   69  Red Shift                         99
 Danger, Hot Stuff II              24  Red Shift (Mac)                   99
 Dare Bluff or Die!                29  Reel Clips                        25
 Darkseed (MPC)                    69  Reference Library                 79
 Darkseed (Mac)                    69  Reference Library (OEM)           15
 Darwin (PC/Mac)                   99  Resource Library Audio            15
 Data Base Made Easy               20  Resource Library Graphics         15
 Day of the Tentacle               42  Resource Library Language Ops.    20
 Deathstar Arcade Battles          12  Resource Library Multimedia       25
 Deep Voyage (MPC/Mac)             35  Return of the Phantom (enhanced)  40
 Deep Voyage (OEM)                 21  Return to the Moon (MPC)          27
 Dennis Miller News to Me (PC/Mac) 41  Return to Zork                    49
 Desert Storm Coalition Cmd (MPC)  34  Return to Zork (OEM)              29
 Desert Storm Coalition Cmd (Mac)  34  Right College (MPC) (OEM)         23
 Desert Stm Cl Cmd (MPC/Mac) (OEM) 24  Ringworld: Revemge of Patriarch   49
 Desktop Bookshop                  14  Road and Track Auto Guide (PC/Mac 69
 Desktop Imager (OEM)              20  Rock Rap 'n' Roll                 48
 Desktop Publishers Dream Disc     28  Rock Rap 'n' Roll (Mac)           48
 Destination Mars (MPC)            42  Rodney's Funscreen                48
 Dictionaries and Languages        12  Rodney's Funscreen (OEM)          29
 Dictionary of the Living World   109  Rodney's Wonder Window            32
 Dictionary of Living World (OEM)  25  Roger Ebert Movie Companion       27
 Dictionary of Living World (Mac) 119  RoMaterial (MPC)                  26
 Digital Dancing (PC/Mac)          59  RoMaterial (OEM)                  14
 Digital Tours: World of Flight    31  Rotor/Time Bandit/Airball         16
 Digital Tours: World of Trains    31  Russia China vol. 1               79
 Digital Tours: USA Tour           37  Sam and Max Hit THe Road          69
 Dinosaur Adventure                53  Scavenger Hunt Africa (Mac)       49
 Dinosaur Adventure 3D             69  Scenic and Archetecture (Mac)     59
 Dinosaur Adventure (Mac)          69  Scenic and Nature III (Mac)       59
 Dinosaur Adventure (OEM)          20  Schubert: The Trout Quinted       49
 Dinosaur Space Adventure (OEM)    34  Sci-Fi Fantasy                    20
 Dinosaur Discovery                40  Science Adventure II              79
 Dinosaur Discovery (Mac)          40  Scissors Stones                   79
 Dinosaur Discovery (OEM)          29  Scissors Stones (Mac)             79
 Dinosaur Safari (PC/Mac)          69  Scooter's Magic Castle            59
 Dinosaurs! (MPC) (OEM)            25  Scouting Report '92               29
 Dinosaurs! (Mac)                  69  Scrabble Deluxe                   30
 Dinosource                        79  Screen Singer Childrens           39
 Dinosource (Mac)                  89  Screen Singer Christmas           39
 Discoverers                       69  Screen Singer Folk Songs          39
 Discoveries of the Deep           39  SDN Plus                          26
 Distant Suns                      75  Seals of the U.S. Government      27
 DIstant Suns 2.0 (Mac)           109  Secret of Monkey Island           19
 Distant Suns 2 (Win)             109  Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe (OEM) 19
 Dividends                         29  Secrets of Executive Success      30
 Doctor's Book of Home Remedies    39  Selectware System                 29
 Doctor's Book Home Remedies (OEM) 29  Selectware System (OEM)           10
 Don Quixote                       29  Selectware Jukebox (OEM)          19
 Down To Earth (Mac)               69  Selfish Giant (PC/Mac)            59
 Dr. Funpak                        19  Seven Days in August              59
 Dr. Games                         15  Seven Days in August (Mac)        59
 Dr. Games vol II                  19  Shadow of the Comet               69
 Dr. Music                         15  Shakesphere (PC/Mac)              15
 Dr. Shareware                     14  Shakesphere Study Guide           25
 Dr. Shareware vol. II             19  Shakesphere Study Guide (Mac)     25
 Dr. Windows                       14  Shareware 1993                    20
 Dr. Windows vol. II               19  Shareware 1993 Vol. 2             21
 Dracula Unleashed (PC/Mac)        53  Shareware 2 the Maxx              19
 Dragon's Lair                     69  Shareware Avalanche               24
 Dragon's Lair (3DO)               69  Shareware Explorer (4 discs)      37
 Dragon's Lair (Mac)               69  Shareware Explorer DOS            25
 Dragon's Lair for Reelmagic Bd.   79  Shareware Explorer Windows        25
 Dune (OEM)                        35  Shareware Extravaganza (4 discs)  35
 Dvorak on Typing                  63  Shareware Galore                  20
 Eagle Eye Shareware               19  Shareware Gold II                 16
 Early Learning Fun                39  Shareware Heaven (OEM)            15
 Earth Air Fire Water              59  Shareware Heaven v.2 (OEM)        20
 Earth Air Fire Water (Mac)        59  Shareware Magic                   42
 Ecoquest: Search for Cetus (OEM)  26  Shareware Online #1               19
 Edu-tainment Software             20  Shareware Online #2               20
 Education Master, 2'nd Edition    18  Shareware Overload                12
 Educational Disc                  31  Shareware Overload Trio           21
 Educational Gameland              24  Shareware Perlen 2                30
 Educational Software Cooperative  16  Shareware Studio #2               15
 Electricity & Magnetism           40  Shareware Studio #3               20
 Electronic Home Library (OEM)     24  Shareware Supreme                 29
 Electronic Home Library (Mac)     89  Shelley Duvall It's a Bird's Life 59
 E.L.A.: Renaissance Mstrs I (OEM) 30  Shelley Duvall Bird's Life (OEM)  39
 E.L.A.: Renaissance Mstrs I (Mac) 79  Shelley Duvall Bird's Life (Mac)  64
 E.L.A.: Renaissance Mstr II (OEM) 30  Sherlock Holmes                   15
 E.L.A.: Renaissance Mstr II (Mac) 79  Sherlock Holmes C. Det. #1 (OEM)  20
 E.L.A.: Impressionism (OEM)       40  Sherlock Holmes C. Det. #1 (Mac)  62
 E.L.A.: Impressionism (Mac)       79  Sherlock Holmes C. Det. #2 (OEM)  43
 E.L.A.: Survey Western Art (OEM)  30  Sherlock Holmes C. Det. #2 (Mac)  62
 E.L.A.: Survey Western Art (Mac)  69  Sherlock Holmes Cons. Detect. #3  63
 Encapsulated Postscript Pro v.1  129  Sherlock Holmes C. Det. #3 (OEM)  46
 EPS Pro Volume 2                 129  Sherlock Holmes C. Det. #3 (Mac)  79
 Encyclopedia of Clipart           22  Sierra's Sneek Peeks              10
 Encyclopedia of Life (Mac)       119  SIGCAT                             8
 Encyclopedia of Sound             12  Significant Series Windows        15
 Endangered & Threatened Species   29  Sim Ant                           69
 Endangered Species                29  Sim City                          69
 Eric the Unready                  40  Simtel 20                         14
 ESPN Baseball                     56  Sing Along Christmas              22
 ESPN Football                     56  Sing Along Duet Now               20
 Europe Alive                      59  Sing Along Elvis (MPC)            20
 European Monarchs                 26  Sing Along Fireside Love (70-80)  20
 European Racers                   42  Sing Along Kids vol. 1            30
 Everywhere USA                    43  Sing Along Lovin in the '60s      20
 Exotic Garden (MPC)               39  Sing Along Party                  59
 Exotic Japan (Mac)                69  Sing Along Top Top '80s '90s      20
 Expert 3D Home Design (Win)       19  Sitting on the Farm (Mac)         59
 Explore Ancient Archetecture      49  Slater & Charlie                  69
 Eye of the Beholder III (OEM)     29  Sleeping Beauty (MPC)             36
 Eye of the Beholder Trilogy       69  Sleeping Beauty (MPC) (OEM)       16
 F117A / F15 II / Scenario Disk    56  Small Blue Planet (MPC)           59
 F117A Stealth Fighter (OEM)       29  Small Blue Planet (Mac)           69
 F15 Strike Eagle III(enhanced)    69  So Much Modem Madness             29
 F15 Strike Eagle III/F117A (OEM)  35  So Much Screenware                23
 Factomatic Bus. Libr. (PC/Mac)   119  So Much Shareware #2              15
 Factomatic for Executives         39  So Much Shareware #3              20
 Factomatic for Negotiaters        39  So Much Space                     20
 Factomatic for Sales Managers     39  So You Be Rock & Roll Star (MPC)  49
 Factomatic for Supervisors        39  So You Be Rock & Roll Star (Mac)  49
 Family Bible (Multimedia)         65  Softkill (MPC/Mac)                36
 Family Doctor (OEM)               19  Software Jukebox Arcade           40
 Family Education                  24  Software Jukebox Fantasy          50
 Family Education Collection (OEM) 20  Software Treasure Chest           25
 Fantasia Fonts                    26  Software Vault #2                 15
 Fantasy Feifdom                   69  Software Vault Games              24
 Fatty Bear's Birthday Suprise     55  Software Vault Gold               19
 Fatty Bear's Birthday Supr. (Mac) 59  Software Vault Windows            24
 Fatty Bear's Fun Pack  (PC/Mac)   39  Solar Heaven                      15
 Fine Art Poster Catalog           39  Sound Blaster MM Explosion        29
 Firefighter! (MPC)                49  Sound Explorer vol. 1             29
 Firefighter! (Mac)                49  Sound
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 Four Days of Gemini Four          29  Space Quest IV (OEM)              17
 Four Footed Friends               59  Space Series - Apollo             26
 Four Footed Friends (Mac)         59  Space Shuttle                     39
 Four Queens Computer Casino       39  Space Shuttle (OEM)               19
 Fractal Ectasy                    39  Space Shuttle (Mac)               39
 Fractals                          20  Space Visual History (PC/Mac)     49
 Fractools                         30  Space Voyage to the Planets       49
 Fractools III                     37  Space Voyage to Planets (Mac)     49
 Fractunes                         30  Space Wae                         59
 France at it's Best               25  Spaceship Warlock (Mac)           89
 Fred Fish Collection (DOS/CDTV)   54  SpaceTime and Art (QT)            69
 FreeBSD Unix/386                  20  SpaceTime and Art (OEM)           25
 Freephone                         29  Speaker and Toastmaster Library   79
 Fresh Arte                        26  Speed                             79
 Front Row Baseball Cards          34  Spell Casting Party               49
 Full Bloom (PC/Mac)               34  Spellbound                        59
 Full Bloom (OEM)                  22  Spirit of Excalibur               27
 Funny: The Movie (MPC)            33  Sport News Pro Ftball Guide (MPC) 29
 Funny: The Movie (QT)             34  Sports Best on CD                 39
 Futura: Games that go Beyond      14  Sports Best on CD (OEM)           17
 Future Wars                       45  Sports Illustrated Almanac (MPC)  49
 Gabriel Knight (MPC)              64  Sports Illustrated Almanac (Mac)  40
 GAIA Envirnmnt Resource (2 disc)  79  Sports Illustrated Almanac (OEM)  21
 Gallery of Dreams (OEM)           17  Sprite                            14
 Game Arena                        10  Star Child                        30
 Game Collection (Mac)             34  Star Trek Collectables            57
 Game Jamboree                     12  Star Trek 25'th Aniv. Enhanced    69
 Game Master 2'nd Ed.              18  Star Wars Chess (OEM)             20
 Game Master 3'd Edition           23  Stellar 7 (OEM)                   17
 Game Pack 3 (OEM)                 25  StickyBear Preschool Advanced     49
 Games 1993                        20  Stories Murder, Mystery, Terror,  42
 Games Bonanza                     20  Straight from Heaven              15
 Games Collection                  24  Stravinsky: The Rite of Spring    68
 Games Platinum                    15  Street Atlas U.S.A. v2.0          89
 Gameware Collection               14  Street Atlas U.S.A. v2.0 (Mac)    99
 Garbo (DOS\Mac)                   14  Street Rod Nationals #24          24
 Gardening                         12  Strike Commander w/Tac. Missions  89
 Gateway II: Homeworld             49  Student Writing Ctr.              89
 Geekwad Games of the Galaxy       27  Super Arcade Games                25
 GIF It News                       24  Super CD 1 & 2 (2 discs)          20
 GIFs Galaxy                       20  Super CD 3                        20
 GIFs Galore September '93         19  Super Clipart                     13
 Giga Games                        18  Super Fonts                       13
 Gigabyte Gold                     24  Super Fonts (Timeworks)           25
 Global Golf                       82  Super Games for DOS vol. 1        11
 Global Golf (Mac)                 82  Super Games for Windows Vol.1     10
 Goblins 1                         36  Super Games for Windows Vol.2     10
 Goblins 2                         36  Super Games for Windows 1 & 2     20
 Goferwinkles Adventures (DOS)     30  Super Photo Bank                  19
 Goferwinkles Adventures (MPC)     34  Super Photo Collection            31
 Goferwinkles Adventures (Mac)     39  Super Programmer                  20
 Goldilocks and the 3 Bears (MPC)  38  Super Space                       25
 Goldilocks 3 Bears French  (MPC)  45  Super Stacks (Mac)                15
 Goldilocks 3 Bears Spanish (MPC)  45  Super Toons (OEM) (PC/Mac)        29
 Government Giveaways for Entrep.  54  Sure Maps DC and Virginia         99
 Government Spending               35  Sure Maps Massachusetts           99
 Grammy Awards '58-'92             49  Sure Maps Michigan/Indiana        99
 Great Cities vol. 1               20  Sure Maps Midwest                 99
 Great Cities vol. 2               20  Sure Maps New England             99
 Great Cities v1&2                 29  Sure Maps New York                99
 Great Literature (PC/Mac)         49  Sure Maps North Carolina          99
 Great Mystery Classics            46  Sure Maps Northern California     99
 Great Naval Battles               69  Sure Maps Northern Florida        99
 Great Poetry Classics             40  Sure Maps Ohio                    99
 Great Poetry Classics (Mac)       49  Sure Maps Pacific Northwest       99
 Great Wonders of the World v.1    43  Sure Maps Pennsylvania            99
 Great Wonders of the World v.2    45  Sure Maps Rockies                 99
 Greatest Books Collection         35  Sure Maps South U.S.              99
 Greatest Books Collection (Mac)   49  Sure Maps Southern California     99
 Greens Golf                       39  Sure Maps Southern Florida        99
 Grolier's Encycl. v6 (OEM) (MPC)  39  Sure Maps Southwest               99
 Grooves (MPC)                    119  Sure Maps Texas                   99
 Guiness Disc of Records '91 (OEM) 12  Sure Maps Upper Midwest           99
 Guiness D. Records 92 (Mac) (OEM) 12  Surf's Up                         29
 Guiness D. Records 93 (MPC) (OEM) 21  Sweet and Low: American Folksongs 41
 Guiness D. Records 93 (Mac) (OEM) 29  Swimwear 1993                     25
 Guns of the Old West (Mac)        36  Swiss Family Robinson (Mac)       69
 Gunship 2000 (OEM)                27  Tales of the Wild Zeep (PC/Mac)   59
 Guy Spy                           43  Talking Classic Tales (OEM)       27
 Guy Spy (OEM)                     26  Talking Classic Tales (Mac)       74
 Hacker Chronicles                 29  Talking Jungle Safari (OEM)       27
 Hacker Chronicles (OEM)           20  Talking Jungle Safari (Mac)       66
 Ham Radio #3                      12  Talking Schoolhouse (OEM)         36
 Hamcall                           42  Tao of Cow                        29
 Hamware 1993                      20  Team NFL Magazine (Mac)           24
 Harrier                           79  Tech Arsenal                      22
 Harry's Storydisc Color Bk (OEM)  24  Technotools                       12
 Hawaii High Mystery Tiki (PC/Mac) 59  Telltale Heart                    56
 HBO It's All Relative (MPC)       53  Tempra Photo CD Access (OEM)      13
 HBO It's All Relative (Mac)       53  Terminator 2 Chess Wars           49
 Healing Foods Cookbook (PC/Mac)   35  Terror of the Deep                59
 Health & Medical Industry Dir.    28  Terror of the Deep (Mac)          59
 Heart - The Engine of Life        89  Terrorist Group Profiles          25
 Hell Cab (MPC)                    69  Tetris Gold                       54
 Hell Cab (Mac)                    69  TFX*                              79
 Herald Tribune Intnl Travel Guide 29  Things Change 1'st Time           69
 Heroic Tales (MPC)                59  Time Desert Storm (OEM)           19
 Heroic Tales (Mac)                59  Time Desert Storm (Mac)           33
 History of the World              79  Time Mag Almanac '93 (MPC) (OEM   29
 Hobbes OS/2 Archives October 1993 14  Time Man of the Year (MPC)        25
 Hobby Corner                      31  Time Traveler (Mac)              129
 Hobby Grab Bag                    11  Timetable of Arts/Entertain (OEM) 20
 Hollywood Classics                39  Timetable of Business/Polit (OEM) 20
 Hollywood the Bizarre             43  Timetable of Science/Innov (OEM)  19
 Holy Bible                        16  Timetable of Science (Mac) (OEM)  25
 Home Computer Starter Pack        30  Tony LaRussa Baseball II          55
 Home Medical Advisor Pro          63  Too Many Typefonts                12
 Hong Kong at it's Best            20  Top 2000+ Shareware (OEM)         20
 Hospitality Index                 30  Tornado (OEM)                     39
 Hot Lines                         41  Tortoise and the Hare (MPC)       42
 Hot News                          22  Tortoise and the Hare (Mac)       49
 Hot Sound and Vision              25  Total Baseball 1993 (OEM)         22
 Hot Stuff 2                       26  Total Distortion (Mac)            99
 Hound of the Baskervilles         36  Total Heart (Mayo Clinic) (MPC)   45
 House of Games                    15  Total Heart (Mayo Clinic) (Mac)   55
 House of Games II                 20  Touch the Music Duke (PC/Mac)     39
 How Computers Work (Mac)          67  Touch the Music SF Rock (PC/Mac)  39
 How it's Done                     34  Town With No Name                 59
 Hugo & Nebula Anthology 1993      29  Tranz                             36
 Hugo's House of Horrors           12  Travel Companion (OEM)            25
 Human Calculator                  29  Travel Planner Gold               49
 Humans                            34  Triple Play English (MPC)         89
 Hyper Backgammon                  29  Triple Play French (MPC)          89
 I Photograph to Remember (Mac)    34  Triple Play Spanish (MPC)         89
 Illust. Facts: How Things Work    36  Triple Tetris Challenge           34
 Illustr. World Works (PC/Mac)     36  Tropical Rainforest               36
 Images of NASA                    23  Trouble in Mind                   39
 Images with Impact (OEM)         109  Trump Castle                      28
 In Print Art Library (OEM)        24  Tuneland (MPC)                    49
 In the Company of Whales          45  Twain's World (MPC)               39
 Inca                              46  Twelve Roads to Gettysburg        29
 Indiana Jones & Fate of Atlantis  43  Twelv
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 Interactive Story Time 3          20  U.S. Civics                       26
 International Business/Econ Atla  16  U.S. History (OEM)                22
 International Intel. Factbook     59  U.S. History (Mac)                35
 Internet Docs                     24  U.S. Presidents (OEM)             27
 Internet Info                     24  U.S. Presidents (Mac)             39
 Introduction to Classical Music   45  U.S. / World Atlas                20
 Iron Helix                        75  U.S.A. East/West                 109
 Iron Helix (Mac)                  60  U.S.A. State Factbook             29
 Island Designs (2 disc) (OEM)     28  U.S.A. State Factbook (update)    22
 It All Started w/George Prsdnts   99  U.S.A. Tour                       31
 It's a Dog's Life                 53  U.S.A. Wars: Civil War (OEM)      27
 It's a Wonderfull Life (OEM)      19  U.S.A. Wars: Desert Storm (OEM)   30
 ITN World News 1992 (MPC)         60  U.S.A. Wars: Korea (OEM)          29
 ITN World News 1992 (Mac)         99  U.S.A. Wars: Vietnam (OEM)        25
 J. Schumaker New Prague Cookbook  26  U.S.A. Wars: World War II (OEM)   27
 Jack and the Beanstalk            41  USA Today: The 90's v.1           55
 Japan Business Travel             37  User's Choice Windows             19
 Jazz: A Multimedia History (MPC)  68  VGA Spectrum #1                   10
 Jazz: A Multimedia History (Mac)  59  VGA Spectrum #2                   15
 Jazz Traditions                   45  Victor Maxx Virtual Arcade        69
 JCSM Shareware Collection         19  Victor Vector: Vamp. Coffin (OEM) 36
 Jets and Props (OEM)              19  Victor Vector: Vamp. Coffin (Mac) 67
 JFK Assasination: Visual Invstgt. 39  Victor Vector Last Dino Egg (OEM) 39
 JFK Assassination Encyclopedia    39  Victor Vector Last Dino Egg (Mac) 67
 Jokes and Pranks                  10  Victor Vector Hypnotic Harp (OEM) 39
 Jones in the Fast Lane (OEM)      17  Victor Vector: Cyber. Form. (OEM) 39
 Journey to the Planets            69  Victor Vector: Telf. Ray    (OEM) 45
 Journeyman Project (MPC)          60  Video Cube Space                  69
 Journeyman Project (Mac)          50  Video Cube Sports                 69
 Jump Raven (Mac)                  69  Video for Windows                 36
 Jurassic Dinosaurs (OEM)          24  Video Movie Guide (MPC/Mac)       35
 Jurassic Dinosaurs (Mac)          49  Vietnam Explorer                  30
 Jurassic Park                     64  View from Earth                   60
 Just Fonts                        20  View from Earth (Mac)             75
 Just Games                        19  Viking Opera Guide                99
 Just Grandma and Me (OEM)         29  Virtual 3D                        29
 Just Grandma & Me (Mac)           48  Virtual Murder (MPC)              69
 Jutland                           41  Virtual Reality Starter Kit       50
 Kaa's Hunting                     35  Virus Killer Pro                  49
 Kaboom  (PC/Mac)                  49  Visions of Saturn                 20
 Kaleidosconics (MPC)              26  Vista Pro v3.0                   129
 Kathy Smith's Fat Burning System  59  Vital Signs (Mac)                 69
 KGB/CIA World Factbook (OEM)      33  Vitsie Visits Dinosaurs (PC/Mac)  39
 KGB World Fact Book               23  Vitsie Visits Outer Spce (PC/Mac) 39
 Key Fonts Pro (PC/Mac)            30  Vitsie Visits The Ocean (PC/Mac)  39
 Key Home Designer                 29  Vivaldi                           29
 Kid Fun                           46  Vivaldi (Mac)                     38
 Kid Works 2 (PC/Mac)              59  Vocabulearn French                46
 Kids Can Read: Aesop's Fables     26  Vocanulearn French (Mac)          49
 Kids Can Read: Benjamin Bunny     26  Vocabulearn Spanish               46
 KCR: Cinderella (PC/Mac)          26  Vocanulearn Spanish (Mac)         49
 KCR: Heather Hits First Home Run  23  Wacky Funsters!                   26
 KCR: Long Hard Day at the Ranch   26  Washington D.C. at it's Best      20
 KCR: Moving Gives Me Stomachache  23  Washington Times/Insight on News 119
 Kids Can Read: Mud Puddle         26  Wave Pool                         16
 Kids Can Read: Paper Bag Princess 26  Way Cool Windows                  19
 KCR: Scary Poems for Rotten Kids  26  Wayzata Desktop Pub. Bundle      129
 KCR: The Tale of Peter Rabbit     26  Wayzata Entertainment Bund (Mac) 129
 Kids Can Read: Thomas's Snowsuit  30  Wayzata Multimedia Bundle        129
 Kids Collection                   19  Wayzata Reference Bundle         129
 Kids Zoo                          69  Wayzata World Factbook '93 (OEM)  17
 Kids Zoo (Mac)                    69  Whale of a Tale                   60
 King Arthur Magic (Mac)           49  Whale of a Tale (Mac)             89
 King James Bible                  21  Whales and Dolphins               69
 King's Quest V (OEM)              17  Where in USA is Carmen Deluxe     69
 King's Quest VI (OEM)             28  Where World Carmen Deluxe (OEM)   23
 King's Quest VI (Upgrade)         30  Where World Carmen Deluxe (Mac)   69
 King's Ransom                     43  White Horse Child (OEM)           24
 Klotski Polish Puzzle             14  White Horse Child (Mac)           46
 Knowlage Adventure                64  Who Killed Sam Rupert? (OEM)      26
 Kodak Photo CD Access (OEM)       14  Wild Learning Safari              31
 Kodak Photo CD Access (Mac) (OEM) 18  Wild Places (OEM)                 16
 La Coleccion                      20  Wild Wierd and Wacky              79
 Labyrinth of Time                 57  Wild Wierd and Wacky (Mac)        79
 LAN Master                        23  Wildcat! Gold                     35
 Lands of Lore                     61  WinCD                             39
 Language Discovery                48  WinCD (OEM)                       24
 Language Discovery (Mac)          49  Wind in the Willows               69
 Language Discovery (OEM)          36  Window Master                     19
 Languages of the World (MPC)(OEM) 25  Windoware                         12
 Laser Printer Companion (OEM)     14  Windows 1993                      21
 Lasersoft Animal Magic            29  Windows Collection                26
 Lasersoft Banners                 26  Windows Explorer 2                30
 Lasersoft Clip Art and Fonts      26  Windows Heaven                    28
 Lasersoft Labels                  29  Windows Shareware Gold Vol. 3 #1  20
 Lasersoft Pinball                 26  Wines of the World (PC/Mac)       55
 Lasersoft Publisher               39  Wing Commander / Ultima VI (OEM)  19
 Lasersoft Video Gambling          26  Wing Cmmdr/Secret Miss. 1&2       68
 Last Chance to See (Mac)          41  Wing Commander II/Ult. Undw (OEM) 40
 Lawnmower Man (MPC)               69  Wing Commander II Deluxe          50
 Lawnmower Man (Mac)               69  Winning Elections (PC/Mac)        45
 Leader Board Collection           26  Wiz-Pak 6-pak CD-ROM              13
 Learn to Play Guitar (MPC)        39  Wizard of Oz                      59
 Learn to Speak English (MPC 2D)   69  Wolfpack                          49
 Learn to Speak English (Mac 2D)   89  Women in Motion                   56
 Learn to Speak French (Mac 2D)    89  Women of Venus                    26
 Learning Adventure                10  Word Tales (PC/Mac)               49
 Learning At Home: Berenstein Bear 39  World Atlas 3.0 (Mac) (OEM)       24
 Learning Fly Fishing              29  World Atlas 4.0 (MPC) (OEM)       20
 Learning Fun for Kids             29  World Circuit                     69
 Learning Heaven                   15  World Literatary Heritage         69
 Legend of Kyrandia (OEM)          34  World of Animals (Nt Ggrph) (OEM) 34
 Legend of Kyrandia (Mac)          68  World of Computer Software        33
 Legend of Oz (PC/Mac)             69  World of Shareware                35
 Leisure Suit Larry I              54  World of Software 1               29
 Leisure Suit Larry VI             69  World of Software 2               29
 Lenny's Music Tunes (DOS)         42  World of Software 3               29
 Lenny's Music Tunes (Mac)         48  World of Software Bundle          49
 Lesko's Information USA           52  World Religions                   30
 Let's Go Budget Guide CA & HI '93 25  World Traveller Vol. 1            12
 Let's Go Budget Guide US (PC/Mac) 25  World View (PC/Mac)               31
 Libris Britania                   34  World View (OEM)                  17
 LifeMap: Animals (Mac)            35  World Vision (3 discs)            38
 LifeMap Animals w/ Backbone (Mac) 35  World Vista Atlas (MPC)           40
 LifeMap: Organic Diversity (Mac)  35  World Vista Atlas (Mac)           59
 Lifestyles of Rich Fame. Cookbook 30  World War II                      39
 Lightning (cache program)         69  Worldwide Adventures              46
 Line and the Shape Eater          34  Wrath of the Demon                39
 Links Collectors CD               40  Wrath of the Demon (OEM)          19
 Linkworlds                        33  Wrath of the Gods (PC/Mac)        69
 LINUX / GNU / X-Windows           29  Writing Center (Mac)              99
 Lion's Share                      34  X11R5 / GNU                       20
 Little Red Riding Hood            46  Yearn to Learn Peanuts            65
 Loom (OEM)                        17  Yearn to Learn Snoopy             65
 Loon Magic                        59  Yoga (Multimedia)                 30
 Lord of the Rings Enhanced        50  Zillion Sounds                    25
 Lost in Time                      39
 Lost Treasures of Infocom I       50
 Lost Treasures of Infocom II      38  Jewel Cases 50/$30 10/$7  5/$4  1/$1
 Lotus 1-2-3 v3.1 (OEM)            79  Caddies    50/$215 10/$46 5/$24 1/$5

 I also carry the complete Ziff Press line of books, and most of the IDG
 Books Worldwide "Dummies" series of books (especially the Gookin titles)!

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From: SANDRA SCOPPETTONE                     Number: 11143
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/28/94  4:13p
Subj: cd games                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following for sale:

Sherlock vol 1 - $20. 
Loom		  18. Lucas
Monkey Island     18. Lucas 

Plus shipping. Or all 3 for $55. no shipping

Send check or MO to: 1125 Leeton Dr. Southold, N.Y. 11971

Call (516)765-1761 or leave message here or internet address.


Sandra
Internet:sandra.scoppettone@woodybbs.com
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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 11144
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 01/28/94 11:41p
Subj: JPEG CD's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -SR> Ok, my address is:

Great.  The moment I receive your disk, I'll send mine...  Ciao...

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From: JOHN CALLICRATE                        Number: 11145
  To: PETE DINNELLA                            Date: 01/29/94 10:32a
Subj: Mcicda.drv                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I don't know if there are other files in the "real" version, but I
found the package for $40 so I bought it.  It seems to run better since
I installed it!


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From: MARK KITCHEN                           Number: 11146
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 01/29/94 10:22a
Subj: Cdrom For sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Yes they are both 8 bit


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 11147
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 01/28/94  5:14p
Subj: Re: Flame? anybody seen it??            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <01-25-94 22:05> Dave Reed wrote:

DR>>  LN> Why would you even question if I was attempting circumvent the
DR>>  LN> laws overseas ? Explain.

DR>> Just giving you a hard time......

<wink>.....Das' OK, I guess I have established I have thick skin !

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 11148
  To: DON BOSMAN                               Date: 01/28/94  5:36p
Subj: Re: Flame? anybody seen it??            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <01-25-94 23:16> Don Bosman wrote:

DB>> (1) I would suggest that you go back and re-read your original
DB>> post.

I am well aware of what I said, thank-you.

DB>> I have several neighbors who travel back and forth to countries that
DB>> would ban your disc, and I read the same implicatons as DR did.
DB>> Mis-labeling or false labeling is exactly how many people DO smuggle
DB>> contraband materials into those countries.

Name a few countries. The disc film says "CD ROM II" and down below it states
"SHAREWARE IS NOT FREE". Try it before you buy it, register it with the
author."

With over 200MB of shareware, I don't think I have falsley labeled a damn
thing. Excuse me for wanting to draw a difference between new product and old,
and pardon me for the awareness that some border customs might assume BB II is
identical to the contents of BB I.

DB>> (2) Stop posting anything to this echo that you have not first
DB>> cleared with your legal counsel.

Darling, I have more legal counsel then you can fathom. Perhaps you ought to
watch the boundries that you cross here, because if your insinuating I am
breaking any laws, you could be looked at as having brought negativity towards
my company in this forum. Would you like my attorneys names and phone numbers.
Call me at (904)789-8101, and I will be more then happy to refer your concerns
to any one of them.

DB>> While I find your present legal problems to be educational,
DB>> until your intellectual property disagreement is resolved in court,
DB>> you should not be posting anything bearing any resemblence to
DB>> involvement in skirting the law of any country.  If you don't think
DB>> that is implicit in your previous post, then you had better have a
DB>> talk with your lawyer.

I think your offbase, I find you to be an irritant, and contact your attorney
and discuss the boundaries you are close if not already overstepping. 
DB>> The above is not legal advice, just a personal opinion.

Thank God. DO me a favor, butt out, and end this thread. If you want to debate,
go voice. I provided my number.

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 11149
  To: FRANK NOVAK                              Date: 01/29/94  1:31p
Subj: Wanted:CD-ROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Frank Novak uttered the following to All :
 -FN> Anybody selling a internal CD-ROM with 320 access time and
 -FN> sound card. Write me with details.

Got a Double-Speed Philips CD-Rom Multimedia Package here for $389.  Includes
Double-Speed Philips CD-ROM, of course, Aztech 16bit Sound Card, Two Koss
Computer Speakers, and Mayo Clinic Family Health Interactive CD...  Great
package.  Got one on my computer online here...  Easiest thing in the world to
set up too...  Leave number or call 615-356-1967 if interested...

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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 11150
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/29/94  6:23p
Subj: A.P.L. CD for trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Who's got an R-rated (no X) Adult CD for trade for this copy of A.P.L. (Adult
Picture Library)??  Let me know here or call 615-356-1967...

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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 11151
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 01/29/94  3:51a
Subj: PAS 16 for sale.                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Two weeks old!!!  Nearly brand new Pro Audio Spectrum 16 sound card.
All software, docs and box included.  Software includes a midisoft
program, monologue; a text to speech program, and much more.

Will sell for $125 shipped.  REGISTRATION CARD INCLUDED!!!!!!!!@!!!
 
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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 11152
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 01/29/94  1:49p
Subj: Re: Bbv2 For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Scott,
    What cd's do you have to trade for my FAO1 is I can get it again! I
have Secret of Monkey Island, So Much Stareware, Nautilus CD, Wizards
6-Pak, Cdrom of Cdroms, and maybe one more somewhere!
              let me know what ya got!
                             Sam Figueroa
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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 11153
  To: STEPHEN FENNER                           Date: 01/29/94  7:53p
Subj: CD-lists                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          Stephen Fenner wrote *
 *********************************
***Hi could you send me a copy also of your updated cd list. Thanks
 *********************************

Absolutely!  Thanks for asking.

Regards,

Hayden Bradshaw
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From: ANTHONY MOREY                          Number: 11154
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/29/94 11:12p
Subj: Wanted Used Cheap CD or 2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I just got a Cd-Rom and I was wondering anyone had some older shareware cds
they were willing to sell.  

Thanks, Anthony


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From: RICK SHELTON                           Number: 11155
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/27/94  2:01a
Subj: Busty Babes Vol1 #1                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

I still have Busty Babes Vol1 #1 for sale, make me an offer.
Cya

Rick

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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 11156
  To: MIKE GERVASI                             Date: 01/26/94  9:51p
Subj: Re: Cd's for trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry,..............C-Ya,Chip Slate


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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 11157
  To: JOHN VAN HARE                            Date: 01/26/94 10:12p
Subj: Re: OEM                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

THANKS!!                        C-Ya,Chip Slate


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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 11158
  To: DAN PROCIV                               Date: 01/27/94  9:52p
Subj: Re: Anyone got a....                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Dan Prociv to Chip Slate <=-

 ->  -=> Quoting Matthew Lynch to All <=-
What I meant by my message down there was that his CM3000 was for sale....
However,I'd still like to recieve one of those Catalogs.....
                                Address:Chip Slate
                                        P.O. Box 96
                                        Claudville,VA 24076-0096

                                 C-Ya,Chip Slate


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From: DOUG VANVLEET                          Number: 11159
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/28/94  8:14p
Subj: cd changer                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Hello im looking for a cheap cd changer.
       Doug


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From: ALLEN DIETZ                            Number: 11160
  To: KEITH CRAWFORD                           Date: 01/29/94  9:11p
Subj: Used CD-ROMs for Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AD>Shakespeare (Complete works, Creative Multimedia Corp.).....$10.00

KC>    I am interested in this.  I will try to call this evening.

Keith, you'll probably get my answering machine.  Leave your phone
number and I'll call you back.

Allen


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From: ALLEN DIETZ                            Number: 11161
  To: RICK AURAS                               Date: 01/29/94  9:21p
Subj: Used Cd-Roms For Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AD> Shakespeare (Complete works, Creative Multimedia Corp.).....$10.00

RA> Alan, can you tell me a little more on this one.  I am very interested.
RA> Is it strictly text (since it is from CMC I thought there may be more
RA> to it)?  Let me know.  Thanks.  Rick

Rick, the Shakespeare CD-ROM from Creative Multimedia Corporation
contains the Complete Works of Shakespeare on one CD-ROM, including
full text copies of all of his plays, poems, and sonnets.  All text
on the Shakespeare CD-ROM is available in both American and Queen's
English.  The disc runs on both MS-DOS and Macintosh computers.

There may be a few line drawings, but it's primarily a text-based
CDROM.

Allen


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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 11162
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/29/94  1:16p
Subj: Preorders for the "Software Tool Chest"  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     !!! COMMING SOON FROM CMS SOFTWARE !!! 
 
We are now accepting preorders for our all new utility disc. 
"The Software Tool Chest" will be released on or about 
02-01-1994.  Look below for a sample of what this disc contains. 
If you wish to download the final description lists call the 
CMS Support BBS at 812-898-2561 anytime 24 hours.  HST 14.4 
online.  Look in file area #3 for TOOL.ZIP.  Available first call. 
 
This disc will include literally thousands of utility programs for 
just about every use you can think of.  No other collection comes 
even close this fabulous new collection.  You will find DOS and 
Windows utilities alike.  The ENTIRE LINUX operating system is 
also included on this disc.  Hundreds of programs for OS/2 are 
included.  If you have been looking for a source for networking 
software look no further.  Two full directories dedicated to 
networking.  Two directories of graphics utility programs. 
Virus protection programs are also included.  MOD music editing 
programs and music and sound players and programs.  Utilities 
for your printer and hundreds of communications and BBS utilities 
plus SO MUCH MORE. 
 
You ask why should I buy this disc?  This disc offers several 
special features not found anywhere else.  First and most im- 
portant this is the LARGEST collection of utilities you will 
find.  The disc is fully BBS ready with file descriptions in 
five formats so you will most likely be able to find a format 
suited for your needs.  If not just call us and we will convert 
one to your format.  Excellent custom file retrieval software is 
also included for the end users.  This software is very user 
friendly.  All menu driven.  Just type GO COLOR or GO MONO to 
start.  This software allows the user to tag, copy, view, unZIP, 
and even view graphics without installing them to your hard 
drive.  Preview contents or graphics before installing.  Program 
dates all the way up till the end of 1993.  No files are older 
than 1991. 
 
We are now accepting preorders.  Your check or credit card will 
not be charged until the day we ship.  In return for your pre- 
order you will get free shipping to your door.  Expected ship 
date: 02-01-1994.  Only $34.95 and free shipping! 
 
 CMS SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
BBS: 812-898-2561  Questions: 812-442-0110  Orders: 800-768-7929 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 11163
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/29/94  1:16p
Subj: All new adult CD-ROM title              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! 
 
                        The A.P.L. CD-ROM! 
 
The APL or Adult Picture Library is now available!  This CD-ROM 
is EXPLODING with 689 of R and X rated adult .GIF pictures, .GL 
movies, .DL movies, and .FLI animation!  All 100% high resolution 
pictures only around 12 pictures less than 100,000 bytes in size! 
This disc contains the following: 
 
     3,112 .GIF Pictures 
        84 .FLI Movies 
       168 .GL Movies 
        90 .DL Movies 
 
+ many programs and graphics viewing software for a GIANT 689 
MEG 100% PREMIUM QUALITY collection.  Pick up your copy today! 
 
Now shipping.  $37.95 + $5.00 standard shipping. 
Dealer pricing is available.  Call for more information. 
 
Get ShareWare OnLine #2 for only $19.95 with purchase! 
 
Mastercard, Visa, personal check, company check, money order or 
cash COD orders are accepted. 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878   812-442-0110 
 
A.P.L./Adult Reference Library - $59.95 
A.P.L./Storm-2 Adult - $49.95 
A.P.L./Physical Therapy - $54.95 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 11164
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/29/94  1:16p
Subj: CD-ROM Software Elimination             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   CMS SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING 
                         P.O. BOX 165 
                     SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
                         812-442-0110 
 
                      Updated 01-30-1994 
 
Its a fact.  CMS is overstocked and to make room for the 
upcomming remodeling and expansion of CMS Software we MUST 
LIQUIDATE the following inventory.  Grab any of the following 
discs for $15 each, unless otherwise noted, while supplies last. 
Buy 7 and select one FREE*.  We will hold nothing back until this 
inventory is GONE.  One of some titles and hundreds of others 
but it ALL must go.  Some discs are used and most are new but 
all are guaranteed against defects.  Dealers call now for bulk 
pricing.  You may grab as many as you like and pay only $3 
shipping**.  You may place your order on Mastercard or Visa or we 
will ship your order COD for $5.00 additional.  You may mail 
your order with a personal check or money order to the address 
at the top of this ad.  * Free CD must be $15 or less.  ** A small 
insurance fee is added to each order. 
 
!!! 650+ MEG Shareware CD only $5.95 with any purchase !!! 
 
Barney Bear Goes to School 
675 MEG Windows CD-ROM          Multi-Media Bookshelf ($25) 
Barney Bear Goes to Space       Fresh Arte Clipart 
Encarta 93 Retail Box ($65) 
Software Vault Gold             Pier 3 Shareware 
FontMaster                      Toolworks MM Enyc. 1.5 ($25) 
LaserTax On CD-ROM              Consumer Guide to CD-ROMs 
Clipart Goliath                 Bibles & Religion 
PC-SIG Version 11 
Black Box Shareware #4          Black Box Shareware #5 
Black Box Shareware #2          Career Opportunities 
2000 Pictures CD-ROM 
ShareWare OnLine II 
Software Treasure Chest         Crossword Cracker 
LookUp 9 Digit ZIP Lookup ($25) 
DataBase Made Easy              Swimwear 1993 
Storm #2 ($20)                  7th Guest Retail Box ($45) 
Mother Earth II                 Fightsmart 
Adult Reference Library ($30)   So Much Modem Madness ($20) 
Digital Dreams #1 ($25)         Time Almanac 
Quick Art Clipart               PC Sig Library #10 
Between Heaven & Hell II        Digital Dreams #2 ($25) 
Gameware Collection             Danger Hot Stuff 
Klotski Polish Puzzles 
CAD Utility Library             Adult Picture Library #1 ($25) 
Paolo Galli Portfolio #1 ($20)  Paolo Galli Portfolio #2 ($20) 
------------------------------------------------------------ 
Grab the following titles for only $10.00 each while supplies 
last.  1 of some and 100's of others but all will surely go 
quickly so get you orders in today. 
 
Phoenix Phun & Games            Brain Drain Games 
Oldies But Goodies Games        Bed & Breakfast Photo Tour 
Mirror Mirror                   Reel Clips 
Futura Games                    Let's Play (Games) 
Variety Store (Games)           Taxprep 
Selectware Software             MPC Wizard 
PC Gameroom                     Middle East Diary 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 11165
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/29/94  1:16p
Subj: CD-ROM Software Bundles                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Look below for some great CD-ROM Software Bundles from CMS. 
All discs are IN STOCK ready for shipment. 
 
               ***** SINGLE CD PRICING ***** 
 
     600+ MEG Shareware CD only $5.95 with any purchase. 
 
Software Tool Chest - $34.95   Digital Delights (2-19) - $38.95 
ShareWare OnLine #2 - $29.95   Adult Reference Library - $37.95 
GameWare Collection - $24.95   SoundWare Collection    - $29.95 
Storm-2 Adult       - $22.95   ShareWare OnLine #3     - $34.95 (2-25) 
User's Choice Windows $29.95   A.P.L. Adult            - $37.95 
Digital Dreams 1    - $24.95   Swimwear 93             - $19.95 
Digital Dreams 2    - $28.95   Software Treasure Chest - $24.95 
 
              ***** BUNDLED CD PRICING ***** 
 
User's Choice Windows          SoundWare Collection 
ShareWare OnLine #2            GameWare Collection 
Software Treasure Chest        ShareWare OnLine #2 
    $49.95                         $49.95 
 
ShareWare OnLine #2            Digital Dreams #2 
SoundWare Collection           A.P.L. Adult 
GameWare Collection            Adult Reference Library 
User's Choice Windows          Digital Dreams #1 
Software Treasure Chest        Storm-2 Adult 
Software Tool Chest                $119.95 
    $139.95 
 
                               User's Choice Windows 
Software Treasure Chest        ShareWare OnLine #2 
ShareWare OnLine #2            A.P.L. Adult 
    $39.95                     Storm-2 
                                   $74.95 
 
Storm-2 Adult                  Storm-2 Adult 
A.P.L. Adult                   Adult Reference Library 
    $49.95                     A.P.L. Adult 
                                   $69.95 
 
Adult Reference Library        A.P.L. Adult 
Storm-2 Adult                  Adult Reference Library 
Digital Dreams #2                  $54.95 
    $69.95 
                               ShareWare OnLine #2 
A.P.L./User's Choice           A.P.L. Adult 
    $44.95                         $44.95 
 
CMS accepts Visa & Mastercard, check, M.O., and COD orders. 
$5.00 standard shipping on any order.  These prices are in 
effect for a short time only.  Get your orders sent TODAY! 
CMS does accept your trades!  PUBLISHERS: Call us to trade 
your titles for ours!  Last updated: 01-30-1994. 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
TELEPHONE: 812-442-0110 
 
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 11166
  To: ALAN EVANS                               Date: 01/28/94  4:55p
Subj: CD-ROM Inventory Reduction              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What is paolo galli portfollio cd?

Thanks
Scott Raley

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From: SCOTT STURGILL                         Number: 11167
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/29/94  2:03p
Subj: Adult Cd's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I was wondering if anyone was interested in trading some regular CD's For some
Adult CD's.  I am trying to build me collection of adult stuff.  I currently
have these CD's I am willing to trade.
1) Kings Quest VI
2) Stellar 7
3) Microsoft Multimedia Pack
4) MacroMedia (Action & ClipMedia)
5) Test Drive For Windows (1000's of Utilities and Programs)
6) National Parks
7) Deep River Publishing

If anyone is interested in trading, Just let me know the name of the adult CD
you would like to trade for, and tell me what it contains and how many Gif's,
Gl's, Text Files, Etc.. That It Contains.  Just Email me back and me can Make
Arrangements.
            Thanks
                Scott

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From: HERB ZWIRN                             Number: 11168
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 01/28/94  5:29p
Subj: Nec36                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Hi Matt, trying to get this 'good lookin' unit going. Couple of ???? tho';

 would you happen to have the 'Utilities' floppy for installing this NEC36? BTW
how much for the scsi card & cable to run this?

Is this unit double speed, or single & how do I tell the difference?
===
 * SLMR 2.0 *    OS2 IS GOOD FOR U.      HERB Z.   VOICE # 904-285-3377

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From: DAVID SARGEANT                         Number: 11169
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/29/94  3:20p
Subj: Shareware                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for a couple of good shareware CD-ROMs for about $10 each.
Anybody have any?  Call me at (702) 294-5096 or (702) 293-6089.

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From: NODE JUNCTION                          Number: 11170
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 01/29/94 11:03a
Subj: Pioneer Drm 600 Wanted                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a demo unit that I want to part with you can have for $575 plus
shipping.  Give me a call at 615-339-0235 if interested.

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From: NODE JUNCTION                          Number: 11171
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/29/94 11:05a
Subj: New Best $19 Cdrom                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

           That's right a great SHAREWARE ROM
                   for ONLY $19.00

Big Sky Rom's newest release, TopDrawer, will ship 2/3/94.
For you who have pre ordered, you'll be the first to get one.
Yeah, I know.  What kind of ROM am I getting for 19 bucks?

                       ANSWER

        Possibly the best ROM you have to date!

This ROM is published by SysOps for the SysOp.  Tired of
compiling list and heaven knows what else to get a ROM
online?

This is the answer you have been waiting for, affordable
files at this introductory price, to show what TopDrawer
is and can do.

Files.bbs in every DIR, so simple it can be run on a test
drive of QMODEM (tm). Plus SPITFIRE (tm) files SFFILES.BBS.
And you 4DOS (tm) users will find descript.ion files.
If you're a PC-BOARD(tm) SysOp, you'll find a comprehensive
SETMEUP.exe that will install the ROM for you! (...You do
have to have it in the CD-ROM player!) grin........
All archives are compressed using pkzip (PKWARE (tm) 204G
using maximum compression.
All archives and their members have been scanned with the
latest virus scanners.

All files have file_id.diz's in them, GOOD ONE's, at that;
we added over 1,859 full descriptions when none were available
or the author thought that high ASCII looked better.

And on TOP of all that, we have made a great effort to remove
commercial files and other copyright infringements.
Now, what this means is that we set this ROM up for the BBS,
not the end user!!!!

We have, because of current legal cases and judgments within the
publishing community, removed VOC, WAVE, and MIDI sound files. The
real programs are still there; we just deleted the lawyer syndrome.
All of the GIF's are our own, no copyright infringements to worry
about. You are licensed as the ROM owner to distribute them to your
users.

There is also a feature authors DIR.  That's the authors we felt
exhibited professional demeanor in program ability and distribution
ease.  Plus, we have the text files that are the latest rage -- that
is, we have STEVE ROBERTS stuff, NOT Megabytes of FAQ's or other
drivel. We have taken great pains to think of the user and the SysOp.
You will find your users cruising through this easy file system and
praising you for the setup (that is, if you have great users like we
do).

Both the SuperMart BBS and PC-MONTANA BBS have handicapped users,
and thought went into the files and their placement to enhance the
interface for these special individuals.

Ok, now to the brass tacks:  Files -- there are 4,174;that's 624 MB +
uncompressed.  Dirs -- no, not 50 or 60, just 45 ; and this ROM will
interface with our first release, BIG SKY 01, so you don't have to do
a major setup all over again!

You've probably heard other SysOps saying that they're removing such &
such ROM offline because of one problem or another. We listen to these
SysOps; you are our bread and butter (low cost spread in this ROM's price).

Now, where can I get this ROM?  Well, read the list and you can order
this baby on-line or by fax (24 hours) or by voice (9-8 EST Mon-Sat).

*** PCJ COMPUTING ***   Data  -  1-615-478-2890   We stock 700+ titles
  All major credit      Fax   -  1-615-479-1047   Lowest prices around
  cards accepted        Voice -  1-615-339-0235   Download BIGSKY2.ZIP
  with no surcharge     Orders-  1-800-547-7817   for the files list.
                      Internet-  Douglas.Carpenter@Junction.Cld9.Com
                    Compuserve-  71754.3514@Compuserve.Com

                                 **  DEALER INQUIRIES WELCOME **

    PC-MONTANA BBS      Data  -  1-406-284-3120  THE MOTHER BOARD for
   (Product Support)                                BIG SKY ROMs !

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From: CHRIS MORTENSON                        Number: 11172
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/28/94  1:39a
Subj: ...                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  For Sale:

  Internal CD-ROM 350ms
  Came with a Multimedia package with SoundblasterPro, I bought this
used and know little about CD-ROMs but I believe it is a single
speed(how do you check??). I will throw in the 1992 Bookshelf.
Make an offer...

Note: I am not selling the SBpro, just explained what it was from.

  I would like to get about $150.00 or so for it.

  Also for sale 1991 Bookshelf. Make an offer.

  You pay for shipping. Contact me here or call me at 503-761-3093
  3:00pm to 3:00am


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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 11173
  To: MIKE GERVASI                             Date: 01/28/94  6:29a
Subj: Storm I <-> King's Quest                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I'll take #1. King's Quest is CD-ROM. We can each handle
-> postage(First Class should be fine). I'll send yours as soon as I get
-> your address.

Ok,It's on the way .

Here's my address:


    Diana Kirksey
    1624 Hwy.99 Sp# 79
    Manteca,CA.  95336

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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 11174
  To: RON YOUNG                                Date: 01/28/94  6:31a
Subj: Ecstasy Hot Pic's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Done.  You should be recieving the money soon.

Ok,I'n holding it for you.

TTYL

                         Diana

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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 11175
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/28/94  6:32a
Subj: Storm Ii & Iii                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello!
 I still have for sale or trade Storm II & III.
Anyone interested,leave me mail.

Thanks,

                      Diana

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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 11176
  To: MAC OWNERS                               Date: 01/26/94  6:34p
Subj: Mac Service Info CD                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Surplus Apple Service Info CD's (Service Source CDROM) Jan 93 edition

*** Close-Out Special! *** $13 Including Shipping *** 60 CD's Left ***

Contains 75mb of information on servicing Apple products including
compact, modular and notebook CPU's, printers, monitors and network
products. Extensive exploded views of assemblies, including service,
diassembly and adjustment procedures in hypercard format for quick
and easy reference. Covers Mac line (to 2/93) and many discontinued
models. If you're into Macs and have a CDROM it's a great resource.

Price: $18 (Now $13) inc. shipping & handling in the U.S. (1st class)
Mail Orders: Sonoma Online, POB 7518, Santa Rosa CA 95407 (707)545-7533
Local Sales: Visit our office at 3928 Sebastopol Rd., Santa Rosa CA



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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 11177
  To: MICHAEL HADEN                            Date: 01/28/94  8:02a
Subj: Storm Ii Or Iii                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hi Diana sorry it has been awhile since I was on the board I have
-> Wing Commander and Ultima VI ,I have some windows Cd's like Rom
-> Material and Win CD

Hi there!
 I'd be interested in trading Storm II or III for the Wing
Commander/Ultima VI CD.In interested,send it to the following
address,and get back to me and let me know which one to send you and
where to send it.

Thanks,

                          Diana Kirksey
                          1624 Hwy.99 SP#79
                          Manteca,CA. 95336

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From: CRAIG HERBERG                          Number: 11178
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 01/29/94  9:29a
Subj: NEC 3XI Triple Speed                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message originally to All, James Porter said:
 JP> I am looking for pricing on brand new NEC 3XI triple speed
 JP> SCSI CDROM
 JP> internal drives.

 JP> Can anyone help???

 JP> James

James,
        Jay Lucas sells them.  He's on RIME.  His voice number is:
(501) 224-5453.  Tell him I sent you.
 
- Craig
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 11179
  To: BILL ODOM                                Date: 01/28/94  6:00p
Subj: % CD-ROM Disks                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>these sell in the stores for $9.00 NEW !!!!
BO>whats the $13 for??

What are you talking ABOUT???  I am not selling anything.  I think you
have the wrong person here...      Later...
 þ SLMR 2.1a þ 

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 11180
  To: DAN PROCIV                               Date: 01/28/94  6:04p
Subj: Trade?                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DP>-> JD>I have an Adult CDROM disk called "Pork-Ware 2". Its over 600 Megs of
DP>Hi Shane,
DP>I have Software Vault Collection 2, Top 2000+ Shareware, So Much Shareware 3
DP>Up All Night, or Shareware Studio 3 available to trade for Porkware 2.

Sorry Dan, you got the wrong guy...   I was offering to trade FOR
Porkware also.  I think you need JD (see above)....
                                     later...

 þ SLMR 2.1a þ 

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 11181
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 01/28/94  8:02p
Subj: cd trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GS>Shane,
GS>You can send STORM to me at 3111 Hann Hill Rd., West Middlesex, PA
GS>16159-6566.  Give me your address and I'll send out A.F.

Greg,  Storm II is packed and ready for shipping.  How should I send???
What ever way you want to send, i will do the same.  BTW, there is a
floppy disk included with this, it has somesort of menu system on it...
I never used it...         Let me know...
ps. I can send US MAIL on Saturday or UPS Monday.
 þ SLMR 2.1a þ 

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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 11182
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 01/29/94  2:43p
Subj: cd trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GS>Shane,
GS>You can send STORM to me at 3111 Hann Hill Rd., West
SS>Middlesex, PA
GS>16159-6566.  Give me your address and I'll send out A.F.

SS>Greg,  Storm II is packed and ready for shipping.  How should I
SS>send???
SS>What ever way you want to send, i will do the same.  BTW, there
SS>is a
SS>floppy disk included with this, it has somesort of menu system on
SS>it...
SS>I never used it...         Let me know...
SS>ps. I can send US MAIL on Saturday or UPS Monday.
SS> þ SLMR 2.1a þ

Shane,
Send it US mail to me at 3111 Hann Hill Rd., West Middlesex, PA 16159 give me
your mailing address so I can send you AF. Thanks for trade.
Greg

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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 11183
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 01/29/94  4:12p
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES -New Release         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

sr> So can I get an address of where I can get my copy?

sr> thanks
sr> Scott Raley

There are quite a few dealers on this echo who will have it available at
competitive prices, Mike Shannan for one.

We only sell direct in quantity.

Thanks for your post

David

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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 11184
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 01/29/94  4:14p
Subj: Your Annoying                           Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <01-27-94 13:44> Lee Noga wrote:

DV>> In a message to Lee Noga <01-23-94 15:18> David Vangelder wrote:

DV>> Ms. Noga, as usual you have mistated the facts and responded to a
DV>> statement of mine OUT OF CONTEXT.

LN>> You better be careful what you are insinuating here, and you had 
LN>> better cease and desist accusations against myself, my product 
LN>> line and my company. You are portraying a negative image against 
LN>> myself and company in your efforts with such statements above, 
LN>> and being driven to speak in this tongue to ensure the public 
LN>> receives you positively. I hope the benefit out weighs the risks 
LN>> for your having done so.

Ms. Noga, I always give you and everyone else the courtesy of capturing
their entire post and respond to each part to make certain that your 
statements are NOT taken OUT OF CONTEXT. I see in this response you 
captured ALMOST all that I had written.

You did leave out the statements:
"Secondly, what you failed to cature in the post you are responding 
to was:
BR>> And.... as far as the constant abuse of Lee Noga/Lion's Den and 
BR>> other people... stop wasting mine and everyone else's time with 
BR>> this nonsense! GROW UP!!  It's very clear to me and probably 
BR>> others that you have this male complex ego thing going on and 
BR>> can't take it when a woman beats you!
BR>> Time to wake up Dave, your not the only game in town...
DV>> As I said above I ONLY RESPONDED to what Ms. Noga or anyone else 
DV>> wrote to or about me.  I am certainly in your debt for your 
DV>> analysis of my ego.  I was unaware that Ms. Noga beat me or that 
DV>> we were even in a contest.  You are certainly correct about me 
DV>> not being the only game in town, and you are welcome to play 
DV>> with someone else.
DV>> I was responding to Mr. Rogers. I will be more than happy not to 
DV>> mention your name in my posts, now that you have requested it."  

BUT YOU ARE DOING BETTER.

DV>> First, in your previous posts you have simply advised that you did
DV>> not want me to post messages regarding the lawsuit in which you are
DV>> involved.  You have never requested "..to leave *MY* name out of
DV>> any post...".  As you know, I do not wish to bring up your name in
DV>> any of my posts, nor have I.

LN>> Mr. van Gelder on my post dated 12/16/93 at 12:44 I stated to you 
LN>> the following:

LN>> " Mr. van Gelder, do not use myself or my product line as a credit 
LN>> leaverage for you or your company...."

LN>> If your reputation is at stake in the public view and you are 
LN>> responding to the general public, your creditability counts as 
LN>> "Credit" leverage when posting. So I think I made it real clear, 
LN>> that I do not wish you to use my name period in any discussions 
LN>> you are having for whatever reason.

Ms. Noga, when you posted your message of 12/16/93 at 12:44, it was in
response to my stating that you had purchased a 1 gig drive from me. 
I had forgotten that instance to which I will gladly ADMIT: THAT time
I did bring up your name.  MY credibility means a great deal to me and
I STAND CORRECTED and HAVE NO PROBLEM ACKNOWLEDGING A MISTAKE ON MY PART!
I HOPE YOU WILL FORGIVE ME.  I had no idea that your statement you 
reference above meant that you wished me not to mention your name in 
any post. Your statement in your post of 1-23-94 at 15:18 indicates that 
I HAVE BEEN ASKED ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION to: "leave *MY* name out of 
any post...".  There were no other occasions and specific you were not.

DV>> I did not wish to respond to your post. But I didn't want the readers
DV>> of this echo to be mislead into thinking that I have ever initiated
DV>> this kind of childish & petty nonsense, as indicated in your post.

LN>> Day late and a dollar short. If you are concerned about your image 
LN>> here, then take that one step further, and stop trying to compromise 
LN>> mine. Your famous for starting your posts with:

LN>> "Ms. Noga, as usual you have mistated the facts and responded to a
LN>> statement of mine OUT OF CONTEXT "

LN>> .... so reading your typical opener here, don't you think the public 
LN>> can see your beating on me still-- Do you think that scores points ? 
LN>> If your suffering from a poor public image (which has not been 
LN>> established), ask yourself what part *YOU* played. Dave, take my 
LN>> advice just this one time, and leave myself, and products alone. 
LN>> Don't comment, congratulate, review or offer constructive critism on 
LN>> my future releases. Don't make references, use, or elude to knowing
LN>> me or my personal name. Don't bully, knock, and make insinuations 
LN>> against my character... and most of all, stop blaming me for 
LN>> misunderstandings and misreprentation of facts. The public is not 
LN>> buying this "It's all Lee". Love yourself enough to heed my words 
LN>> of wisdom.

Ms. Noga, I am not beating on you.  Perhaps your should read all of your 
past posts and evaluate yourself. The fact still remains that I have not 
initiated any of the discussions in these sensless and annoying (for me 
to answer) posts.  I have not insinuated it is all Lee in whatever it is 
you are talking about.  If it has to do with what *I* view as misrepre-
sentations or MY opinions on your discs or any other product, then be 
assured that I will post it.  You can be assured that I will not mention 
you by NAME.  I will if I choose to, write about any of your discs, 
whether it is to compliment or criticize them.  And please, feel free to
comment on any and all of our productions. We welcome any & all comments 
whether they be good or bad.

LN>> Now, go ride off into the sunset.

Now Ms. Noga, be nice.

LN>> Happy trails,

LN>> -=*>Lee<*=-  

This is the last post that I will write to you directly. I am too busy
trying to produce the best quality discs that we can. So, please respond 
to this post, have the last word AND Have A Great Day!

Hugs,

David.---
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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 11185
  To: ANGELLO HUONG                            Date: 01/29/94  3:56a
Subj: Cd Trade?                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AH>I sent out the disk Monday, but when I looked at my CDs, I discovered
AH>that I accidently sent you out Storm 3.  If you want it that'll be fine.
AH>If you don't, tell me and I'll send out the Storm 2. Sorry about the

Hope you got my last msg.  Already have Storm 3, want Storm 2.  I will
return #3 to you, send #2 to me.  Thanks

Randy Neuner
196 Hughes St
Ft Huachuca, AZ 85613


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 11186
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/29/94  4:33a
Subj: Battle Chess Enhanced pro               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To: All
Subject: Battle Chess Enhanced problem

I purchased Battle Chess Enhanced on cd disc.  All works fine except no
music or fighting sounds.  Walking sounds are ok.  Anyone else have this
problem using a Sound Blaster Deluxe (8 bit) card?

Thanks
Randy


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From: GLENN DOREN                            Number: 11187
  To: RICHARD KONG                             Date: 01/27/94  2:04p
Subj: Re: !FREE CD CATALOG!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would also like a copy of the catalog.
Please send it to:

        Glenn Doren
        46 Hibbard Road
        Winnetka, Illinois
                60093

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From: ANTHONY FURGISON                       Number: 11188
  To: TOM CAUSLEY                              Date: 01/29/94 10:47a
Subj: CD-ROM READERS FOR SALE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Boy why buy a 1503 for that price. Can pick up a 3600 from MEGAROM for $99.

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From: STEVE PESANT                           Number: 11189
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/30/94 11:05a
Subj: CD-ROM PACKAGE SPECIALS                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hi there Mike

SP:>What type of price would I be looking at for the following package:

SP:>                        * Night Owls Version 11.0
SP:>                        * CD-Powerbox I
SP:>                        * CD-Powerbox II
SP:>                        * Pier II
SP:>                        * Pier III
SP:>                        * Cream Of The Crop II
SP:>                            -= SPECIAL DEALS CD's =-
SP:>                        * Winbox
SP:>                        * 600 MB Shareware
SP:>                        * CD-ROM Reference of CD-ROMS

 MS> Can let you have the above package for $145.

Just curious, what exactly is the 600mB Shareware disk you advertise for $6.00
with every order. And I suppose that deal that had the CD-ROM of CD-ROMS for
FREE with the purchase of $100.00+ is over now. With The MIDI music
collections; how large are they in MBs.

-=Cheers=-
        Steve


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From: IAN SINGER                             Number: 11190
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 01/29/94  4:14p
Subj: CD-ROM READERS FOR SALE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Anyone else out there want some of these $90.00 NEW Hitachi CDR1503S
-> drives Bubba has??????

Thats an old model that hasnt been made for ages. I was using 4 on my
bbs until I blew up two and they were made 1988-1989. They are
officially specd at 800ms but are about 1/2 of that and their transfer
rate is 75K per sec.
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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 11191
  To: DAN PROCIV                               Date: 01/29/94  2:51a
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Then it happened......DP>-> Hello!
DP>Hello Janne,

DP>THE CD-MACHINE HAS OVER 500+ TITLES TO CHOOSE FROM, 
RBINCLUDING ALL ADULT TITL
DP>AVAILABLE ON CDROM!  TONS OF SHAREWARE / COMMERCIAL / 
RBGAMES / ETC.


DP> >>>>>>>>>>>GIANT CDROM CATALOG AVAILABLE FOR MAILING ON 
RBREQUEST!!>>>>>>>>>

Please send catalog to:

Mike Gervasi
USNAS PSC 1002 Box 1174
FPO AE 09727
                 Thanks
                       Mike

Mike
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From: BILL LUSCOMBE                          Number: 11192
  To: DAN PROCIV                               Date: 01/29/94  6:47p
Subj: Re: Catalog                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> On 28 Jan 94  00:43:11 David Ryder did profusely salivate to Dan Prociv
<=-

 DP> THE CD-MACHINE HAS OVER 500+ TITLES TO CHOOSE FROM, INCLUDING ALL
 DP> ADULT TITLES AVAILABLE ON CDROM!  TONS OF SHAREWARE / COMMERCIAL /
 DP> GAMES / ETC.
 DR> 
 >>>>>>>>GIANT CDROM CATALOG AVAILABLE FOR MAILING ON REQUEST!!>>>>>>>>>

Hey Dan! I'd like a copy of your catalogue please. Send to:
     Bill Luscombe
     3370 Limerick Road
     Duncan, B.C.
     V9L 4P8

Thanks in advance.:-)
Bill


... Alright Dan ya flea bitten varmint! Reply or I'ma gonna blast ya!
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From: TONY DAVIS                             Number: 11193
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/30/94  7:47p
Subj: CD POWERBOX 2 Problem                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 On 01-25-94 MIKE SHANNON wrote to ALL... 
 
 MS>             ____________________________________________________ 
 MS>            |                                                    | 
 MS>            |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   | 
 MS>            |____________________________________________________| 
 MS>             _______________________________    _________________ 
 MS>            |                               |  |                 | 
 MS>            |     Title:  CD POWERBOX 2     |  |     $25.60      | 
 MS>            |_______________________________|  |_________________| 
 MS>  
  
 MS>       It contains Damar's new UNVIVERSAL INTERFACE or UI.  The UI 
 MS> offers the ability to manage most or all of your shareware CD's, 
 
I just got PowerBox 2 (having been a PowerBox 1 user). The DOS interface 
is just plain broke. It will search some areas then will lock up in the 
OS2 section. 
 
The UI is not bad but you are forced to have to go to Windows (something I 
usually do only when I have to). And the UI's help section is non-existant. 
When it is called, I am told that there are no help files.  


Also, inside the CD box the instructions say to enter WININSTALL. That file  
is not on the the CD anywhere. The only way to set it up is to type 
WSETUP to get it to run. While the UI has it's benefits, it also lacks 
some things. And the DOS interface (type DAMAR) is all screwed up. 
 
It would have been better it DAMAR had kept the same file areas as PowerBox 1 
and used the same interface; at least that one worked. I am happy with the 
selection of files but if DAMAR can't quality check their programming, I have 
to wonder if I should invest in a third version when it comes out. 
 
                        Tony Davis 
 
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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 11194
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/30/94 11:39p
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


                    Graphical Images of Florida, Inc.             ,;
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                    * * * *  P R E S E N T S  * * * *        '   ,
     ,,;;;;;;;.,                                          ; '-,  ,
   ;;::::::::::;;,                                         ' ,
  ;;'' ';;;:::::;;,        BODACIOUS BEAUTIES            .' ù   ;
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(___,ùù'\\' *,,,,,'. _ _ _ _ _ _ ,-,,_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ,,,ùù'

            A FULLY COMMERCIAL -- FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC

             More Than 85 Well Known BODACIOUS BEAUTIES
               Over 2,000 Hi-Res GIFs at 1024x768x256
             Over 650 Megabytes (including thumbnails)
                      From Original 35mm Slides
                          New GUI Interface
                      Installs Quickly & Easily
                       Extremely User Friendly
                      Mouse Support & Popup Help
                     Multiple Directory Slide Show

                               RATED - X

FOR USE ON YOUR BBS FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS

$25.00 for the first node
$15.00 each additional node (up to five)
$12.00 each additional node (up to ten)
$10.00 each additional node thereafter

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From: AUDIE VICKERS                          Number: 11195
  To: TOM HUNT                                 Date: 01/29/94  8:34a
Subj: Freeland,Mi                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TH>Are you the Mike who use to live by Freeland,Mi?? You got any adult CD's
TH>you want to sell??

  I used to live in Freeland, Mi.  Who're you??


 * OLX 2.2 * Forget the Joneses.  I can't keep up with the SIMSONS!!


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From: JOSE VISBAL                            Number: 11196
  To: MICHAEL DAUM                             Date: 01/30/94 11:26p
Subj: Re: CD'S FOR SALE                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RD>I have two Cd's for sale:
 RD>        The women of Venus - a nice swimsuit CD - $13
 RD>        Day of the Tentacle - Complete game with hintbooks, no text to
 RD>                                - $25

Would you like to trade (  Curse of Enchantia )  CD-Rom
by virgin games
makers of The 7th guest...?
Reply here..or leave me your number...

... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: THOMAS ROSENSTOCK                      Number: 11197
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/31/94 12:36a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1 OF 5                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 21 Jan 94  12:03:00, Brice Fleckenstein had this to say about CD-ROM PRICE
LIST 1 OF
HELLO< WHARE AM I< ANYWAY< I"D BE INTERESTED IN YOUR MAC CD"D< PLEASE MAIL ME<
A REDABLE LIST OF THEM< THANX.

BF>  CD-ROM Price List 14 January 1993
 BF> 
 BF>  5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
 BF>  Indianapolis, IN 46220
 BF>  Tue Thu 11am - 8pm  Wed Fri 11am - 6pm  EST
 BF>  (317) 726-1980 voice  (317) 726-1387 BBS (24 hour, 1200/2400/v.32
 BF> supported)
 BF> 
 BF>  FidoNet 1:231/190   InterNet sysop@f190.n231.z1.fidonet.org
 BF>  All prices are in U.S. Dollars and include any applicable Sales Tax.
 BF>  U.S. Shipping included if prepaid (please allow 7 days for check to
 BF> clear).
 BF>  Sales to out-of-U.S. addresses require payment in U.S. funds.
 BF>  We cannot accept Credit Card payment at this time.
 BF>  If you don't see a specific title that you are looking for, please
 BF> CALL!
 BF>  I add new titles almost constantly!
 BF> 
 BF> 
 BF>  Infocomm 10 Year Aniversery Coll. 79  Louis Armstrong Multi Record
 BF>      29
 BF>  1000 Sound Effects                49  Lovejoy's College Councel. (MPC)
 BF>  79
 BF>  1001 Utilities                    10  Lovely Ladies II           
 BF>       31
 BF>  1992 CD-ROM Collection w/CIA      63  Lucas Arts Game Pack II (OEM)
 BF>     20
 BF>  20'th Century Almanac (5 disc)    72  Lucas Arts Mac Game Pack II
 BF>       26
 BF>  20'th Century Art                 49  Lunicus (Mac)              
 BF>       69
 BF>  20'th Century People (OEM)        25  Lyric Language French (PC/Mac)
 BF>    40
 BF>  20'th Century Sports (OEM)        25  Lyric Language Spanish (PC/Mac)
 BF>   40
 BF>  20000 Leagues Under the Sea (Mac) 69  MacMillan Dict for Children
 BF> (OEM) 19
 BF>  3'd Body Adventure (MPC)          79  MacMillan Dict. for Children
 BF> (Mac 39
 BF>  3D Tutor (Mac)                   119  Macromind Action! (OEM)    
 BF>       28
 BF>  501 Sound Waves                   19  Mad Dog McCree             
 BF>       35
 BF>  600 Days to Cocos Island (Mac)    59  Made in the USA (PC/Mac)   
 BF>       36
 BF>  7'th Guest (OEM)                  36  Madness of Roland (Mac)    
 BF>       50
 BF>  7'th Guest (Mac)                  99  Magic Death (MPC)          
 BF>       49
 BF>  9 Digit Zip Codes                 32  Magic Death (Mac)          
 BF>       49
 BF>  9000 Sounds                       24  Magic Flute (Mac)          
 BF>       55
 BF>  A Christmas Carol                 26  Majestic Places (PC/Mac)   
 BF>       36
 BF>  A Christmas Carol (FTL)           56  Mammals (Nat. Geographic)  
 BF>       23
 BF>  A Silly Noisy House (MPC)         59  Man Enough                 
 BF>       59
 BF>  A Silly Noisy House (Mac)         49  Manhole                    
 BF>       35
 BF>  A+ Grade Builder                  34  Manhole (OEM)              
 BF>       25
 BF>  About Cows                        25  Manpower                   
 BF>       29
 BF>  AD&D Dark Sun: Shattered Lands    69  Mantis Experimental Fighter
 BF> (OEM) 16
 BF>  AD&D Dungeon Hack                 49  Maps 'n' Facts PC Globe    
 BF>       47
 BF>  AD&D Fantasy Empires              59  Mario is Missing Deluxe (OEM)
 BF>     20
 BF>  ADA Programming                   19  Mario Missing w/World Atlas
 BF> (OEM) 20
 BF>  Adobe Type on Call                81  Mario Teaches Typing       
 BF>       64
 BF>  Adobe Type on Call (Windows)      83  Mars Explorer              
 BF>       41
 BF>  Adventures                        40  Masterpiece Library        
 BF>       36
 BF>  Adventures in Heaven              15  Math Blaster Spot          
 BF>       49
 BF>  Adventures of Pinocchio (MAC)     59  Matinee Screen Saver       
 BF>       43
 BF>  Adventures of Willy Beamish (OEM) 17  Mavis Beacon Typing (MPC) (OEM)
 BF>   16
 BF>  Aegis Guardian Fleet              68  Max the Dragon (PC/Mac)    
 BF>       55
 BF>  Aesopolis (Mac)                   69  Mayo Clinic (MPC) (OEM)    
 BF>       18
 BF>  Aesop's Fables (eBook)            40  Mayo Clinic (Mac) (OEM)    
 BF>       24
 BF>  AGFA Intro PAC - 20 Typefaces     82  MCS CD Master              
 BF>       29
 BF>  Airbrush Portfolio (PC/Mac)       69  MCS SOund Review vol. 1    
 BF>       39
 BF>  Air Warrier                       58  Media Clips 3-pack (MPC) (OEM)
 BF>    45
 BF>  Aircraft Encyclopedia             27  Mega A/V                   
 BF>       26
 BF>  Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp    34  Mega Clipart (OEM)         
 BF>       27
 BF>  Aladdin's Lamp (EA) (DOS)         47  Mega CD-ROM v.1            
 BF>       20
 BF>  All American Sports               47  Mega CD-ROM v.2            
 BF>       26
 BF>  All Music Guide                   55  Mega Media I               
 BF>       26
 BF>  Aloha, Hawaii!                    20  Mega Movie Guide           
 BF>       39
 BF>  Alone in the Dark                 69  Mega ROM 3.2 (Mac)         
 BF>       89
 BF>  Amanda Stories (MPC)              41  Mega WinOS/2               
 BF>       26
 BF>  Amanda Stories (Mac)              49  Megarace                   
 BF>       59
 BF>  Amazing Universe (PC/Mac)         59  Microcosm                  
 BF>       85
 BF>  America Adventure                 69  Microprose CD Sampler      
 BF>       15
 BF>  America Alive Guidedisc (DOS)     59  Microprose Collection (OEM)
 BF>       28
 BF>  America Alive Guidisc (Mac)       87  Microsoft Bookshelf '93 (OEM)
 BF>     38
 BF>  American Business Phone Book '92  14  Microsoft Golf             
 BF>       45
 BF>  American Business Phone Book '93  25  Microsoft Mozart           
 BF>       54
 BF>  American Heritage Ilus Ency Dict  50  Microsoft Multimedia Pack (OEM)
 BF>   69
 BF>  American Journey 1896-1945        45  Microsoft Musical Inst. (Mac)
 BF>     79
 BF>  American Vista Atlas (MPC) (OEM)  27  Microsoft Stravisky        
 BF>       54
 BF>  American Vista Atlas (Mac)        60  Microsoft Works (OEM)      
 BF>       38
 BF>  America's Premier Shareware       14  Middle East Diary          
 BF>       26
 BF>  Americans in Space (PC/Mac)       57  MIDI Connection            
 BF>       56
 BF>  Aminet                            15  MIDI Music Shop for Windows


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From: THOMAS ROSENSTOCK                      Number: 11198
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/31/94 12:36a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1 OF 5                Refer: NONE
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 BF>       17
 BF>  Anecdotes v.1                     14  Midnight Movie Madness     
 BF>       49
 BF>  Anecdotes v.2                     14  Might and Magic: World of Xeen
 BF>    69
 BF>  Anecdotes v.3                     14  Mixed Up Mother Goose (OEM)
 BF>       17
 BF>  Anglo-Saxons                      44  Monarch Notes (PC/Mac)     
 BF>       40
 BF>  Animal Alphabet (MPC)             49  Money, Money, Money! (OEM) 
 BF>       19
 BF>  Animal Kingdom (PC/Mac)           39  Monster Disk (2 discs)     
 BF>       30
 BF>  Animal Tales                      59  Monster Media '93          
 BF>       23
 BF>  Animals Encyclopedia (MPC) (OEM)  27  Monster Media '93 #2       
 BF>       28
 BF>  Animals in Motion                 40  Mosaic Magic               
 BF>       29
 BF>  Animals San Diego Zoo (DOS) (OEM) 19  Mosaic Magic (Mac)         
 BF>       49
 BF>  Animals San Diego Zoo (MPC) (OEM) 20  Mother of All Clip Art     
 BF>       14
 BF>  Animals San Diego Zoo (Mac) (OEM) 23  Motion Picture Guide       
 BF>       89
 BF>  Animation Festival (MPC) (OEM)    20  Movie Select               
 BF>       55
 BF>  Animation Magic (Win)             58  Movie Select (Mac)         
 BF>       55
 BF>  Annabel's Dream Ancient Egy (Mac) 55  Movies on TV and Video (PC/Mac)
 BF>   34
 BF>  Annabel's Dream Medival Eng (DOS) 69  Mowgli's Brothers          
 BF>       36
 BF>  Annabel's Dream Medival Eng (Mac) 69  Mozart (MPC) (OEM)         
 BF>       20
 BF>  APL Volume I                      19  Mozart Multimedia Musicbook
 BF>       37
 BF>  Apollo 8 Go For TLI               30  Mozart Multimedia Musicbook
 BF> (Mac) 38
 BF>  Arcade                            45  Mozart: Dissonant Quartet  
 BF>       49
 BF>  Archives of History (DOS)         65  MPC Wizard (OEM)           
 BF>       14
 BF>  Archives of History (Mac)         69  MS Art Gallery             
 BF>       79
 BF>  Arctic Baron                      39  MS Art Gallery (Mac)       
 BF>       79
 BF>  Art Appeal Series                 89  MS-DOS Explorer 3          
 BF>       35
 BF>  Art of Ancient Egypt v.4          65  Multi Bible                
 BF>       89
 BF>  Art of Renaisance II              95  Multimedia Animal Encyc. (Mac)
 BF>    59
 BF>  Art Library 3 Pack                89  Multimedia Audio Collection
 BF>       30
 BF>  Arthur Teacher Troubl (MPC) (OEM) 22  Multimedia Audubon Birds (PC/Mac)
 BF> 19
 BF>  Arthur's Teacher Trouble (Mac)    49  Multimedia Audbn Mammals (PC/Mac)
 BF> 19
 BF>  ASP Advantage                     20  Multimedia Environments    
 BF>       29
 BF>  Astrology Source (PC/Mac)         59  Multimedia Handisc (Mac)   
 BF>       87
 BF>  Atlas of U.S. Presidents          26  Multimedia Magic Collection
 BF>       15
 BF>  Audioshop (Mac)                   75  Multimedia Mania           
 BF>       19
 BF>  Authorware Star (MPC) (OEM)       34  Murder Makes Strange Deadfellows
 BF>  45
 BF>  Autodesk Explorer                 85  Murmurs of Earth (3 disc) (PC/Mac
 BF> 44
 BF>  B17 Flying Fortress/S.S. II (OEM) 30  Music Magic                
 BF>       39
 BF>  Baccus and Comus (Mac)            50  Musical World Pro Piccolo  
 BF>       69
 BF>  Backroad Racers                   59  Mutanoid Math & Word Challenge
 BF>    39
 BF>  Baker's Dozen Game Pack Windows   15  MVP Game Jamboree          
 BF>       12
 BF>  Barney Bear Goes to School        14  My Advanced Label Designer 
 BF>       54
 BF>  Barney Bear Goes to Space         14  The Myst (Mac)             
 BF>       79
 BF>  Barron's Book Notes (OEM)         30  NAFTA on CD-ROM (PC/Mac)   
 BF>       89
 BF>  Barron's Book Notes (Mac)         74  Napoleonics                
 BF>       59
 BF>  Baseball's Greatest Hits (Mac)    59  National Parks of America (PC/Mac
 BF> 69
 BF>  Battle Chess (orig--- TBBS v2.1/NM
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From: PEGGY LANDT                            Number: 11199
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/30/94  1:43p
Subj: Pirate CDs                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

===========================================================================
 BBS: Sacra Bytes
Date: 01-26-94 (15:24)             Number: 6465
From: FRANK LEONARD                Refer#: NONE
  To: ALL                           Recvd: NO  
Subj: Sim City - Pirated             Conf: (1) GenPubMsgs
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We recently had a member (Mike) upload a pirated piece of software to the
board.  The story is interesting and I feel the need to share it with you.

Mike is an honest, caring person who is trying to contribute to Sacra Bytes and
I view him as an innocent party who lacks information (there's a buch of "us"
out there!).  I'm able to bring you this story because Mike gave us so much
information.

Mike and his friend bought a CD-ROM disk from AT-MAN COMPUTERS on Gerry Blvd.,
San Francisco, a few weeks ago.  The CD-ROM is titled "Top 100 Shareware
Programs - 1993" and is made by POWER SOURCE, INC. 1003 San Pablo, El Cerito,
94530 / (510-527-6908/FAX 510-527-3823).

I called AT-MAN COMPUTERS (415-751-6046/FAX 415-751-4586) and spoke with
Patrick.  He is concearned and indicated he will take the product off the shelf
right way and try to get his money back from the people who make the CD-ROM. 
He wants to avoid litigaton at all costs.  --but I'm getting ahead of myself
here....

On this CD-ROM disk is SIMCTY.ZIP.  Inside the ZIP is an official looking
document and registration from which asks for $25.00 be sent to RWS & ASSOC at
132 Alpine Terrace, San Fran, 94117 (no phone number, nor does Pac Bell list
one).  The document mentions the company who makes SIM CITY, Maxis Software in
Moraga, CA.  There are copywright messages and legal jargon all through the
document explaining how Maxis is in co-operation with RWS Assoc. on this "NEW"
type of shareware.  Official docs and official registration form....all bogus
(as it turns out).  I am unable to contact RWS & Assoc.  They are apparently
the original villian in this sad saga.

I called Maxis Software (510-376-6434/FAX 510-253-3736) and spoke to Steve
Abaru who was quite concearned as SIM CITY is a commercial piece of software --
not ever nor now, shareware. I gave him all the information we have. I'm not
sure he will take any action (if he even has an avenue to persue).  I hope he
finds a way to take some action.  The people who run RWS and POWER SOURCE, INC
belong in jail,IMHO.  These "scum" are one of the reasons we pay such high
prices for software.

I called Power Source, Inc, who makes the CD-ROM.  I was passed through two
employees who did not speak English well enough to understand the word "Piracy"
or "Theft".  Finally, Leo (salesman?) came on the line and developed an
-attitude- right away and insisted his boss was in another country (don't have
any idea when he'll be back - if ever!).  Leo insisted that I send him a FAX. 
It was obvious from my conversation with Leo that his company does not intend
to stop production of the CD-ROM.  Even more obvious was that they have no
intention of even looking into the fact that they are distributing pirated
software.  When I asked Leo what will happen to him if (and when) he was longer
getting pay check from his current employer. Leo was quick to point out that
another job would be easy to get.

As I see it, there are two morals to this story:

1.  We are surrounded by companies like Power Source, Inc. & RWS and Ass who
have no morals or ethics and continue to break the law. All this whi the honost
folks in this world continue to get the short end of the stic I wonder if there
is anything we can do.

2.  Just because you bought a CD-ROM (or any form of media) does not mean that
the programs on it are legal or devoid of virus.

CC: (as many BBSs that I can get to!)
    Power Source, Inc.
    AT-MAN Computers
    Maxis Software
    America On Line
    CompuServe
    Fido Net
    GEnie Net

--- Maximus 2.01wb
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 11200
  To: J. ALLEN                                 Date: 01/30/94 11:07a
Subj: Re: Rules, etc.                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Tom Huber <01-28-94 17:01> J. Allen wrote:

JA>> (required???) to flame other Vendors.....Vendors are allowed to
JA>> judicate
JA>> their claims and litigations here...."R" CD-ROM disk producers are
JA>> allowed to
JA>> threaten and intimidate (FBI bust, etc.) "X" CD-ROM disk
JA>> producers.......

....and you have been permitted to crystaliz it all :). Question though, who
might these "R" rated publishers be that talk of FBI busts concerning the "X"
CD-ROMS. If you feel it is I, then understand that we are "XX" publishers
releasing inside information about the heat coming down on the "XXX"
publishers--SO if your going to state facts here, its not "R" vs "X", its "XX"
alerting all to the dangers of dealing in the seculiar "XXX".

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
--- GEcho 1.00+
 * Origin: Queen Of Hearts BBS, Deltona FL (904)789-6843 (1:3618/23)
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From: SANDRA SCOPPETTONE                     Number: 11201
  To: RICK AURAS                               Date: 01/30/94  6:43p
Subj: CD ROM FOR TRADE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Rick


RA>me.  I am looking more for games or productivity software in trade

I have Sherlock Vol 1.$20.
       Loom            18.
       Monkey Island   18. 
Plus shipping or $50 all three. 

I don't know what it is you want to trade.  I'd rather sell but let me 
know if you're interested in buying or trading.  I don't want games.

Sandra

Internet sandra.scoppettone.woodybbs.com
01/30/94 17:45
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From: TONY WHITE                             Number: 11202
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 01/29/94  6:39p
Subj: Re: Adult Cd-roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mark Johnsen keyed in the following blurb to Tony White:

MJ> Greetings Tony, interested in a trade?  How 'bout Busty
MJ> Babes II (their current release) for the Southern Beauties? 
MJ> Please let me know if interested.  Thanks in advance.

All of these sold; however, I might be able to procure another one.
I'll let you know.

-TWhite

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From: ROBERT CHAN                            Number: 11203
  To: HERB ZWIRN                               Date: 01/28/94  8:30a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE 4 SALE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Herb,
   The drive I have for sale is the Creative Labs EXTERNAL CD-ROM drive.
  It's single speed, with a 64K buffer, and I think a 330 ms access time
  rating.  It's the one that hooks up directly to the CD port on the
  SB-PRO or SB-16.  If you're interested, give me a call at (916) 227-2604
  days.


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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 11204
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 01/30/94 10:41a
Subj: Windows CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > GroupWare
 > 4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
 > Tacoma, WA 98409
 > 1-206-472-1400
 > 1-206-473-1634 FAX

You were to bring my windows cd-rom disk to the PACK-RIM show in
vancouver...You didn't Remember....
You were to ship it on friday the 21st. of Jan. and to notify me here you
didn't....I have waited an extra week and still no word.....so cancel any idea
of the deal as I will buy from someone who will ship when they agree to....

..Red..

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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 11205
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/30/94 11:17a
Subj: GET OUR NEW CATALOG!                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 > **************************************************
 >    FREQ OR DOWNLOAD STARVECTOR'S CURRENT CATALOG W/
 > 400+ CD-ROM TITLES!

Hi Mike

Just d/l your cat...what would it cost to have the disk windows colection
+caddy also understand I can get a windows games cd-rom for $6.00 along with
that..Need the price shipped
to Nanaimo B.C.

Thanks in advance

..Red..

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From: MICHAEL TROXELL                        Number: 11206
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 01/25/94  7:29p
Subj: Re: Adult Cd For Trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> On 23 Jan 94  21:59:00, Mark Johnsen said to All 
 concerning Adult Cd For Trade           <=-

 MJ> Have Busty Babes Volume II (newest release in this series) available
 MJ> in trade for another adult CD; looking for Southern Beauties,
 MJ> American Girls, Amorous Asians or similar "quasi-recent" CD.  MUST
 MJ> state 21+... thanks in advance.

Don't have adult anything for trade.  How much for out right sale?

Mike

... Roget's Thesaurus: The Heartwarming Story of a Boy and His Dinosaur.
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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 11207
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 01/29/94  9:38p
Subj: CDs to SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

27 Jan 94 06:51, SAM FIGUEROA wrote to ROGER DAVIS:

 SF> What would ya wanna trade some of those cd's for?
 SF> What are you looking for?
 SF>                                   Sam Figueroa

Sam, I am looking to swap for adult-type cds. Don't need any more shareware
types. Would like to have Rebel Assault but can't really think of any other
games.

Roger

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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 11208
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 01/29/94  9:48p
Subj: CDs to SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

27 Jan 94 02:42, Randy Neuner wrote to Roger Davis:


 RD>> DOS.....whatcha got?

 RN> Adult discs:
 RN> Giffy Gold
 RN> Adult Reference Library

 RN> Thanks
 RN> Randy

Will swap the Battle Chess for ARL. Will cross-ship.

3627 Manchaca #215 Austin, Texas 78704

512-440-7670


Roger

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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 11209
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 01/29/94  9:51p
Subj: Software Vault                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

26 Jan 94 10:08, Jim Lambert wrote to Roger Davis:

 RD>> The Collection for Windows- Instant Library for Windows on CD-ROM
 RD>> The Gold Collection - Instant Software Library on CD-ROM (unopened)
 RD>> The Games Collection - Instant Games Library on CD-ROM (unopened)

 RD>> Want to swap these for adult cds or games cds.

 JL> Hi Roger.  I am a CD-Rom dealer and would like to trade something for
 JL> these.  Give me a call, and we can probably work something out.

 JL> Jim Lambert
 JL> (205) 793-4481

Jim, I am looking for adult cds. Really the only game cd I am interested in is
Rebel Assault.

512-440-7670

Roger

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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 11210
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/30/94 10:38a
Subj: Hitachi 3600 Refurb's                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 11211
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/30/94 10:38a
Subj: Pioneer's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 11212
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/30/94 10:47a
Subj: CD-ROM Prices                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


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From: HANS FELSH                             Number: 11213
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/30/94  8:14p
Subj: misc for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FOR SALE:

Almost complete 286 system, perfect to upgrade that old 8088 XT! System
includes:

           1. 80286-12mhz motherboard
            a. 1mb RAM installed (256k-10 chips)
            b. DTK bios dated 1989
            c. Intel 80286-12mhz processor
            d. Intel 80287 math co-processor
            e. VLSI chipset
            f. 4 8-bit slots, 4 16 bit slots
            g. baby AT size
           2. VGA monitor
            a. Compaq 640x480 .28dp
           3. 32mb MFM Hard Disk Drive
            a. Seagate ST251
            b. has been Stacked to 64mb
            c. comes with the following software installed:
               1. Stacker v3.0
               2. MSDOS v6.2
               3. WordPerfect for DOS v6.0
               4. Norton Utilities v7.0 w/ bug fix
               5. Norton Commander v4.0
               6. MS Windows v3.1
               **and alot of other software I can't mention!**
           4. MFM controller card
            a. controls 2 MFM hard drives
            b. controls all floppies up to 1.44mb
           5. Teac 360k floppy
            a. beige faceplate, real quiet
           6. 2400bps modem
            a. ViVa Hook-Up 2400s
            b. non-volatile memory installed
           7. 84-key keyboard
            a. Genuine IBM
            b. full click
            c. very solid
           8. IBM full-sized desktop case
            a. 230 watt power supply
            b. key lock w/ 2 keys

Only problem is that this system DOES NOT have a video card.  Well, here's the
deal: My wife and I just had a baby, and I have BILLS to pay! I am willing to
let this system go for $425 or best offer...

1. 80286-8mhz motherboard            \
 a. Genuine IBM                        \
 b. Phoenix bios dated 1989              \
 c. 512k on board(156k-15 chips)           -- $40 OBO
 d. comes with memory expansion card     /
    that has 128k on it (total 640k)   /
 e. 6 16-bit slots, 2 8-bit slots    /

2. CGA monitor card, full-length.......$30.00 OBO
3. Monochrome monitor card w/ parallel port....$5.00 OBO

4. 1mb Parallel Print Buffer                             \
 a. QVS Smart Buffer Switch                               \
 b. controls 2 computers to 1 printer                      \
                 --OR--                                     -- $150.00 OBO
    controls 2 printers to 1 computer                      /
 c. dramtically speeds up printing w/ dot matrix printers /
 d. sells new in Computer Shopper for $300.00+           /

5. DEAD 1.2mb floppy                    \
 a. black faceplate                      -- $10.00 OBO
 b. can be repaired (you take the time) /

6. dBase IV v1.10 Developer's Edition                          \
 a. bought new (4 years ago?) for $1100.00 (no joke)            \
 b. ability to program with it                                   -- Make offer
 c. comes with all original disks and manuals                   /
 d. also comes with QUE books on working programming with it.  /

I am willing to trade for a mini-tower/baby AT case w/ 3 5.25 bays and 2 3.5
bays...or a SVGA monitor...or cut a little off the price of the 286 computer
listed above...but I really need the cash. But call me and we'll talk. The
name and number are in the tagline below.

... Hans W. Felsh - 536 Paula Dr. Clarksville, TN 37042 - (615) 647-8544
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: HANS FELSH                             Number: 11214
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/30/94  8:15p
Subj: misc for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FOR SALE:

Almost complete 286 system, perfect to upgrade that old 8088 XT! System
includes:

           1. 80286-12mhz motherboard
            a. 1mb RAM installed (256k-10 chips)
            b. DTK bios dated 1989
            c. Intel 80286-12mhz processor
            d. Intel 80287 math co-processor
            e. VLSI chipset
            f. 4 8-bit slots, 4 16 bit slots
            g. baby AT size
           2. VGA monitor
            a. Compaq 640x480 .28dp
           3. 32mb MFM Hard Disk Drive
            a. Seagate ST251
            b. has been Stacked to 64mb
            c. comes with the following software installed:
               1. Stacker v3.0
               2. MSDOS v6.2
               3. WordPerfect for DOS v6.0
               4. Norton Utilities v7.0 w/ bug fix
               5. Norton Commander v4.0
               6. MS Windows v3.1
               **and alot of other software I can't mention!**
           4. MFM controller card
            a. controls 2 MFM hard drives
            b. controls all floppies up to 1.44mb
           5. Teac 360k floppy
            a. beige faceplate, real quiet
           6. 2400bps modem
            a. ViVa Hook-Up 2400s
            b. non-volatile memory installed
           7. 84-key keyboard
            a. Genuine IBM
            b. full click
            c. very solid
           8. IBM full-sized desktop case
            a. 230 watt power supply
            b. key lock w/ 2 keys

Only problem is that this system DOES NOT have a video card.  Well, here's the
deal: My wife and I just had a baby, and I have BILLS to pay! I am willing to
let this system go for $425 or best offer...

1. 80286-8mhz motherboard            \
 a. Genuine IBM                        \
 b. Phoenix bios dated 1989              \
 c. 512k on board(156k-15 chips)           -- $40 OBO
 d. comes with memory expansion card     /
    that has 128k on it (total 640k)   /
 e. 6 16-bit slots, 2 8-bit slots    /

2. CGA monitor card, full-length.......$30.00 OBO
3. Monochrome monitor card w/ parallel port....$5.00 OBO

4. 1mb Parallel Print Buffer                             \
 a. QVS Smart Buffer Switch                               \
 b. controls 2 computers to 1 printer                      \
                 --OR--                                     -- $150.00 OBO
    controls 2 printers to 1 computer                      /
 c. dramtically speeds up printing w/ dot matrix printers /
 d. sells new in Computer Shopper for $300.00+           /

5. DEAD 1.2mb floppy                    \
 a. black faceplate                      -- $10.00 OBO
 b. can be repaired (you take the time) /

6. dBase IV v1.10 Developer's Edition                          \
 a. bought new (4 years ago?) for $1100.00 (no joke)            \
 b. ability to program with it                                   -- Make offer
 c. comes with all original disks and manuals                   /
 d. also comes with QUE books on working programming with it.  /

I am willing to trade for a mini-tower/baby AT case w/ 3 5.25 bays and 2 3.5
bays...or a SVGA monitor...or cut a little off the price of the 286 computer
listed above...but I really need the cash. But call me and we'll talk. The
name and number are in the tagline below.

... Hans W. Felsh - 536 Paula Dr. Clarksville, TN 37042 - (615) 647-8544
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 11215
  To: BERNIE SCHAU                             Date: 01/31/94  9:42a
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bernie Schau wrote in a message to Terry Blount:

BS> Hi Terry...  Any idea of when you will receive or ship the 4
BS> drive cases?  I had purchased the complete 4 drive setup
BS> from you and did receive all but the case.

Your case went out Thursday Jan 20 th.  You should have it any day now.  Sorry
for the delay on the cases.

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 11216
  To: BRYAN COTTER                             Date: 01/31/94 12:53a
Subj: Re: A.P.L. CD for trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 29 Jan 94 06:23pm, Bryan Cotter wrote to All:

>>    Who's got an R-rated (no X) Adult CD for trade for this copy 
>>    of A.P.L. (Adult Picture Library)??  Let me know here or call 
>>    615-356-1967... 

Give us a call, it's in stock as well as about 120 other titles as well.

You can reach us at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week.

Hope this helps..



Boris Osadciw

... Thought of the day....... To QuaWK or not to QuaWK?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 11217
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94 12:53a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E

* Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous Versions
* All Zipped Files      * New Viewer     * 60% Files Released last 90 days
"Night Owl 11. "  offer's over 4,500 all new files and supports for areas
such as Windows, OS/2, Games, Fonts, Ham Radio, Lan, Business and more !
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
   Best Of The Best - Night Owl 11. + Cream Of The Crop II - $50.00

ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... CAUTION! Silver Xpress roaring through here!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 11218
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94 12:53a
Subj: MONSTER DISK 3                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

)))))))))))))))))))  M O N S T E R  M E D I A  93  NO 3 ((((((((((((((((((((((

650 Megs          All Programs Cover Sep - Dec 1993             No Dupes
New File Viewer - Several Files.BBS Formats + Conversion Programs - Manual
4,700+ Files - Covering everything from ACAD to Word Proccessors and more !

                            Price - $30.00

    ORDERS ONLY 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Every Silver lining has a clone around it.
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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 11219
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/30/94  2:20a
Subj: Rebel Assult                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for a price on Rebel Assult cd disc.  Who is selling it and how
much and will it play on an MPC Level 1 system (386sx, 4mb ram, vga
color 640x480, 8 bit SB card)?  Thanks.

Randy

 * QMPro 1.52 * Toto, I don't think we're in DOS anymore...


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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 11220
  To: BILL LUSCOMBE                            Date: 01/31/94  3:33a
Subj: Compton's Int Ency                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bill,

I missed a bunch of messages, shoot me your address if you still want it.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: CHAD HJELLE                            Number: 11221
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/29/94  4:27p
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Could you please send a copy of your catalog to:

Chad Hjelle
9370 71st ST NE
Spicer, MN 56288-9642

Thanks.

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From: TOM JORGENSON                          Number: 11222
  To: SCOTT CARTIER                            Date: 01/30/94  9:42a
Subj: CD MUSIC FILES (.MOD)                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (27 Jan 94) Scott Cartier wrote to All...

 SC>         I was wondering if anyone knew of any CD's out there with alot
 SC> of .MOD sound files. I have seen some with a smattering of them in the
 SC> sound directory but are mostly shareware programs. If anyone knows of
 SC> a
 SC> good offering of sound files on a CD, please let me know it's name and
 SC> if possible the typical price. Thanks.

Microsoft has quite a collection of them. From Hanna Barbera Sound Clips to
multimedia presentations of Mozart, Beethoven, and others.

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From: BILL HENDERSON                         Number: 11223
  To: JAMES THORNE                             Date: 01/30/94  6:50p
Subj: SOFTWARE TOOLWORKS ENCYC                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll take one at $35 if you'll pay shipping. Call me at 704-393-5211 to
arrange payment.

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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 11224
  To: LAYN HUFFMAN                             Date: 01/30/94  8:13p
Subj: CDS TO SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

29 Jan 94 12:25, Layn Huffman wrote to Roger Davis:

 LH> Roger, how bout a trade of your XXX Extreme for Ecstasy Hot Pics.
 LH> BBS ready, Mostly XXX gifs, includes several directories on the
 LH> bizarre (kinky stuff). Also contains animations of .FLI and .GL with
 LH> viewers.

May already have it swapped. If not, I'll repost it.

Roger

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From: ALLEN DIETZ                            Number: 11225
  To: WILL JUNG                                Date: 01/31/94  6:49a
Subj: Re: Medical CD's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WJ>I'm interested in Medical CD's also, I know they have the
WJ>PDR, Mayo Clinic, Family doctor etc... they should have
WJ>alot more out there, I'm doing research on those.

Creative Miltimedia Corporation (CMC) publishes a number of medical
journals on CD-ROM, including The New England Journal of Medicine,
American Family Physician, Pediatrics (American Academy of
Pediatrics), Pediatrics Infectious Disease Journal, and Pediatrics
in Review.  Each disc, depending on the journal, contains the full
text of the last two to seven years of the journal and the
DiscPassage retrieval system.  Discs cost $295 each.  For additional
information, contact:

Creative Multimedia Corporation
514 NW 11th Avenue, Suite 203
Portland, OR  97209
VOICE: (800) 262-7668 or (503) 241-4351
FAX:   (503) 241-4370
BBS:   (503) 241-1573

Hope this helps,

Allen

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From: MAX HILL                               Number: 11226
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/30/94 10:29p
Subj: 19$ROM TopDrawer                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                      That's right a great ShareWare ROM
                              for $19.00

      Big Sky Rom's newest release, TopDrawer, is now
shipping;
      for you who have pre ordered, it's on its way.
      Yeah, I know.  What kind of ROM am I getting for 19
      bucks?
      
                         ANSWER     
             Possibly the best ROM you have to date!

      This ROM is published by SysOps for the SysOp.  Tired
of
      compiling list and heaven knows what else to get a ROM
      online?

      This is the answer you have been waiting for,
affordable
      files at this introductory price, to show what
TopDrawer
      is and can do.
      Files.bbs in every DIR, so simple it can be run on a
test
      drive of QMODEM (tm). Plus SPITFIRE (tm) files
SFFILES.BBS.
      And you 4DOS (tm) users will find descript.ion files.
      If you're a PC-BOARD(tm) SysOp, you'll find a
comprehensive
      SETMEUP.exe that will install the ROM for you! (...You
do
      have to have it in the CD-ROM player!) grin........
      All archives are compressed using pkzip (PKWARE (tm)
204G
      using maximum compression.
      All archives and their members have been scanned with
the
      latest virus scanners.
      All files have file_id.diz's in them, GOOD ONE's, at
that;
      we added over 1,859 full descriptions when none were
available
      And on TOP of all that, we have made a great effort to
remove
      commercial files and other copyright infringements.
      Now, what this means is that we set this ROM up for
the BBS, 
      not the end user!!!!
      There is also a feature authors DIR.  That's the
authors we felt
      exhibited professional demeanor in program ability and
distribution
      ease.  Plus, we have the text files that are the
latest rage -- that
      is, we have STEVE ROBERTS stuff, NOT Megabytes of
FAQ's or other 
      drivel.  We have taken great pains to think of the
user and the SysOp.
      You will find your users cruising through this easy
file system and
      praising you for the setup (that is, if you have great
users like we
      do).
      Ok, now to the brass tacks:  Files -- there are
4,174;that's 624 Mb +
      Dirs -- no, not 50 or 60, just 45 ; and this ROM will 
      interface with our first release, BIG SKY 01, so you
don't have to do 
      a major setup all over again!

      Now, where can I get this ROM?  Well, read the list
and you can order this
      baby online or by voice.

          The COMPUTER WORKS  Data   1-205-671-0092
                              Voice  1-205-793-4481
          PCJ COMPUTING       Data   1-615-339-2890
                              Voice  1-615-339-0235
          TRIPLE SEVEN MEDIA  Data  1-817-649-1436
                              Voice 1-817-246-0400
          WHITE MOUNTAIN      Data  1-915-947-1249
                              Voice 1-915-949-7706 (after
6:00 pm please)
          THE SUPERMART BBS   Data  1-406-586-3774
                              Voice 1-406-586-8344
          PC-MONTANA BBS      Data 1-406-284-3120  THE
MOTHER BOARD for
                                                   BIG SKY
ROMs !

                                     
~~~
 * VbReader 1.5 #NR * (A)bort (R)etry (I)nfluence with large hammer.
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From: DANIEL MARTIN                          Number: 11227
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94 12:10a
Subj: BigSky Rom File Lists Req               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÿ@SUBJECT:BigSky Rom File Lists Requestable                           N
BigSky ROM Files Lists can now be Freq'd from 1:3400/26, both the BigSky
Rom #1 dub'd 'The Downloaders ROM' and BigSky ROM #2 'The 1st in the
TopDrawer Series' Starter Kits and file lists are available from me
under the following Magic Names:

BIGSKY01  - DIR Style Text Lists of the files on BigSky ROM #1
BIGSKY2A  - Allfiles listing by Catagory/File Name Sort with order info
BIGSKY2F  - Starter Kit for any FILES.BBS Sysop complete with screens
BIGSKY2P  - SetMeUp 94 Second Installer for PCBoard or any Sysop able to
            import DIR Style Text Lists complete with screens/order info
BIGSKY2S  - Spitfire SFROM Quick Installation Kit complete with screens.

Please note one of my other hats around here is NEC for Net 3400, so the
system will reject your requests between the hours of 12:15AM to 5:45AM
MST, as much as I'd like to have it so you could pick them up 24 hours a
day, my nodes are important to me and their time windows are closed to
other callers, outside of that please feel free to pick up a copy of any
or all the file lists to the BEST BBS Ready ROM's on the Market today!

                                     Dan - Co-Publisher BigSky ROMs
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From: MICHAEL                                Number: 11228
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94  3:29a
Subj: WANTED:  Used CD Roms                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The CD Exchange               A Division of Micro Computer Products INC
Operations Center
113 Sweetwater Drive
Wilmington, NC 284O5


ATTENTION ALL CD ROM USERS AND BBS SYSOPS

     We hope this past Christmas Season was as enjoyable and memorable
for you as it was for us!   During an explosive fourth quarter,  sales
have left our available on-hand stock of  available  CD-ROMware  w-a-y
below what we consider comfortable inventory level!

     We are looking for good quality used CD-ROMS to help rebuild our
collection.   CD's  *must*  be  in scratch free condition and include
original jackets for CD Cases.

     We are now accepting CD's in the following categories

        * Adult
        * AMIGA
        * Shareware
        * Educational
        * Sound
        * GIF's
        * Entertainment

If you have CD-ware in *good* quality condition,  Netmail below Address
with your Title,  and  information on how to contact you via voice,  or
Reply in this conference.

Michael Ingram
CEO/Micro Computer Products
The CD Exchange

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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 11229
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 01/31/94  5:35p
Subj: Re: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New Release    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <01-28-94 15:32> Michael Harris wrote:

MH>   > **************** BODACIOUS BEAUTIES *****************
MH>
MH>   > ************** FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!! ***************
MH>
MH>   > ** FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS **
MH>
MH>   >                      $25.00 for the first node
MH>   >              $15.00 each additional node (up to five)
MH>   >              $12.00 each additional node (up to ten)
MH>   >              $10.00 each additional node thereafter
MH>
MH>  David,
MH>  If you get rid of the per node BS I might be interested in this disk.
MH>
MH>                                   Mike Harris

Mr. Harris, I am afraid that if you want to put Bodacious Beauties on line,
you will need to pay the licensing fees.  If not, you can certainly enjoy
the disc personally for no additional charge than the cost of the disc.

If you decide to purchase the disc, I hope you enjoy it.

David.  
 
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From: DON BOSMAN                             Number: 11230
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 01/31/94  1:12a
Subj: Read the posts first                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 > I am well aware of what I said, thank-you.
OK.

 > DB>> I have several neighbors who travel back and forth to countries that
 > DB>> would ban your disc, and I read the same implicatons as DR did.
 > Name a few countries. The disc film says "CD ROM II"
 > and down below it states "SHAREWARE IS NOT FREE". Try
 > it before you buy it, register it with the author."
Fine, Egypt, Saudia Arabia, most Islamic countries. They seem to take exception
to depictions of bare skin.

 > With over 200MB of shareware, I don't think I have
 > falsley labeled a damn thing. Excuse me for wanting to
 > draw a difference between new product and old, and
 > pardon me for the awareness that some border customs
 > might assume BB II is identical to the contents of BB
 > I.

By the way, are the shareware programs archived?  I'd like to ask if the export
controls on archiving programs affect your shipments.  I'm fascinated by our
governments attempts to harass companies who export archiving and / or
encrpytion technology that has already gone out over the InterNet.

 > Darling, I have more legal counsel then you can
 > fathom. Perhaps you ought to watch the boundries that
 > you cross here, because if your insinuating I am
 > breaking any laws,

If you would take the time to read the posts before you flame the person
posting, you would have noticed that I wrote that I got the same impression
that another person did. That impression was based on your message.  If a
couple of folks got the same impression then it must be because you were
unclear or you meant them to.  If your statement was unclear, I would think you
would welcome the oportunity to clarify it.  You stated that you had altered
the label so as to make your product easier to get into certain countries.
Since you claim I have misinterpeted you or misrepresented what you wrote
please expand my knowledge, enlighten me, just what specifically, did you
intend this statement about altering your label to mean and how did you intend
for people to take it?

 you could be looked at as having
 > brought negativity towards my company in this forum.
 > I think your offbase, I find you to be an irritant,
 > and contact your attorney and discuss the boundaries
 > you are close if not already overstepping.

Try it and you will quickly find out what a SLAPP back suit is.  I don't think
very kindly of people who try to intimidate others by using thinly veiled
threats such as the above.  If you felt I had damaged your business by making
the suggestion that you consult counsel before posting, then you should have
already had your attorney draft a letter to me and not tried to intimidate me,
or anyone else reading this echo, with the above.

 > Thank God. DO me a favor, butt out, and end this
 > thread. If you want to debate, go voice. I provided my
 > number.

If you didn't want to debate why did you bother to reply? Merely igonoring me
would have been more efficient.  Most of the people who read this echo are
looking for things to buy, not chatter.  If you didn't intend to try to
intimidate then why did you not just Netmail your reply instead of posting it
in a public echo?

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From: CJ JASKIEWICZ                          Number: 11231
  To: MIKE GERVASI                             Date: 02/01/94  1:09a
Subj: national parks on cd                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: national parks on cd
BY: Mike Gervasi to Cj Jaskiewicz on Wed Jan 26 1994 10:35 pm

 Well Mike, I just got rid of everything that I had, I sold it over the last
couple months. I've been lookin in the closet and on the desk, even under the
desk and still can't find anything to trade. I guess before I quote a price,
which version is this? I see there are a couple of different formats. MPC, etc.
That way I don't over quote or even under quote the CD. Can you give me some
type of price that you'd accept? I talk at yas later, Thanks, C.J.
--- GEcho 1.00
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From: HAROLD HAYES                           Number: 11232
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/28/94  9:08p
Subj: Adult CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I am searching for an adult CD....(If it exists yet)
Amateur models (Not the CD by that name, I have it)
Girl next door kinda stuff.
Shots probably taken by husband/boyfriend/friend/self.
Pics to compare....AA_?????, Gabbys BBS AdBoard pics, ETC...
I have most of these pics......I want new stuff.....
NO KIDDIE STUFF !!!
]
Thanx, H


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From: MIKE STEFFEN                           Number: 11233
  To: SCOTT STURGILL                           Date: 01/31/94  6:28a
Subj: Adult Cd's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> If anyone is interested in trading, Just let me know the name of the adult
-> CD you would like to trade for, and tell me what it contains and how many
-> Gif's, Gl's, Text Files, Etc.. That It Contains.  Just Email me back and me
-> can Make


-> 3) Microsoft Multimedia Pack

I've got A.P.L.  (Adult picture library)  apx 640 megs worth of adult gifs I'd
be interested in trading for The microsoft Multimedia Pack.
I can be reached dayz at 1-319-234-0938 to discuss terms. (CST)
Mike

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From: DAVID RYDER                            Number: 11234
  To: DAN PROCIV                               Date: 01/31/94 11:44p
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES -New R               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



DP> We have Bodacious Beauties available for shipping now! Sale price is
DP> $39.00 plus shipping. You may order anytime using the following methods:

    Dan, does this price include the licensing fee for using this disk
    on a bbs?


***David.
 Entered Jan 31,94 from Mississauga, Ontario.    rn.1063@rose.com
   
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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 11235
  To: HERB ZWIRN                               Date: 01/31/94  8:42a
Subj: Nec36                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  Hi Matt, trying to get this 'good lookin' unit going. Couple of ????
->  would you happen to have the 'Utilities' floppy for installing this
-> how much for the scsi card & cable to run this?
-> Is this unit double speed, or single & how do I tell the difference?

Well Herb,
I do have the NEC drivers for the SCSI devices from their BBS. A low
cost SCSI card is a Future Domain 8 bit at $42.00, and the cables are
21.00 each. This unit is s single spin, but the only real way to tell
the difference is the printed manual. Single spin drives transfer about
150Kb sec, whereas double spin are around 300Kb sec....

Let me know. Send mail via NETMAIL at 1:239/675 please to keep the
echoes clean!

Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE


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From: JOHN BRACK                             Number: 11236
  To: ALAN EVANS                               Date: 01/29/94  1:28a
Subj: All new Adult CD-ROM Catalog            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

whats the total for Topless Dancer And Southern Beatuies? i dont use windows so
i hopethese work without it.

--- Xenolink 1.0 Z.3, EmacsXL.4
 * Origin: Amys' Place - 419-691-0279 - Toledo OH (1:234/22)
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From: DEAN PEECH                             Number: 11237
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94 12:24a
Subj: Internet access                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 How does a person obtain internet access in Canada
If a person can how much?


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From: DEAN PEECH                             Number: 11238
  To: DAN PROCIV                               Date: 01/30/94 12:33a
Subj: Phonebook Cd                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does it have Candian  listings.
if it doesn't I will be still interested.
and how can I order it.


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From: FRANK NOVAK                            Number: 11239
  To: BRYAN COTTER                             Date: 01/30/94  9:53p
Subj: WANTED:CD-ROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Must have me mixed up with someone else. I'm not looking for a new CD rom. Got
one already but thanx anyway. Chow.

 

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From: JOHN LITTLE                            Number: 11240
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 01/30/94  7:40p
Subj: $125 SCSI CD-ROM Players                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ismail Arslangiray wrote in a message to All:

 IA> Toshiba 3101 Internal SCSI drives $125
 IA> They are great for BBS' to operate with numltiple drives.
 IA> We accept all major credit cards!.. 

Do you take Discover?  

Thanks,
           John 
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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 11241
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/31/94  7:51p
Subj: ADULT CD-ROM PRICES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Brice,
    I recently traded for it and I guess its ok, got anything to trade??

I have few more to trade!
                             Sam Figueroa
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 11242
  To: HANS FELSH                               Date: 02/02/94  8:28a
Subj: misc for sale                           Refer: 11214
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> FOR SALE:
->
-> Almost complete 286 system, perfect to upgrade that old 8088 XT! Syst
-> includes:

Please only advertise CD ROM products for sale...

tim
moderator
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From: UUNET!CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU!HELPDESK     Number: 11243
  To: ALAN NICHOLS                             Date: 01/31/94 11:29a
Subj: RE: LOGGING                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

From CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU!HELPDESK  Mon Jan 31 08:05:05 1994 remote from uunet
Received: from CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP 
        (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwbfo18451; Mon, 31 Jan 94 08:05:05
-0500
Received: from CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU by CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2)
   with BSMTP id 3566; Mon, 31 Jan 94 08:05:51 EST
Received: from CMUVM (NJE origin HELPDESK@CMUVM) by CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU (LMail
V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 6683; Mon, 31 Jan 1994 08:05:51 -0500
Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 94 08:02:41 EST
From: Helpdesk <uunet!CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU!HELPDESK>
Organization: Central Michigan University
Subject:      Re: LOGGING ON
To: LOGGING ON PROBLEMS <toltbbs!alan.nichols>
In-Reply-To:  <9401301041.A8819wk@toltbbs.UUCP>
Message-Id:   <940131.080241.EST.HELPDESK@CMUVM>
X-Acknowledge-To: <HELPDESK@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>

ALAN, WHEN YOU GET THE MESSAGE THAT YOU ARE ALREADY LOGGED ON, IT MEANS
THAT AT SOME POINT WHILE YOU WERE ON THE SYSTEM EARLIER, YOU DIDN'T LOG
OFF CORRECTLY. IF YOU GET THIS MESSAGE AGAIN IT WOULD BE BEST TO CALL
US HERE AT THE HELPDESK SO THAT WE CAN DO A DROP USER ON YOUR ID NUMBER.
OUR PHONE #=3662. SOMEONE IS HERE 8-5 MONDAY THRU FRIDAY. GOOD LUCK.







>toltbbs!alan.nichols@uunet.uu.net
>

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 11244
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94  9:15p
Subj: Best New $19 SHAREWARE CDROM            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

           That's right a great SHAREWARE ROM
                   for ONLY $19.00
 
Big Sky Rom's newest release, TopDrawer, will ship 2/3/94.
For you who have pre ordered, you'll be the first to get one.
Yeah, I know.  What kind of ROM am I getting for 19 bucks?
 
                       ANSWER
 
        Possibly the best ROM you have to date!
 
This ROM is published by SysOps for the SysOp.  Tired of
compiling list and heaven knows what else to get a ROM
online?
 
This is the answer you have been waiting for, affordable
files at this introductory price, to show what TopDrawer
is and can do.
 
Files.bbs in every DIR, so simple it can be run on a test
drive of QMODEM (tm). Plus SPITFIRE (tm) files SFFILES.BBS.
And you 4DOS (tm) users will find descript.ion files.
If you're a PC-BOARD(tm) SysOp, you'll find a comprehensive
SETMEUP.exe that will install the ROM for you! (...You do
have to have it in the CD-ROM player!) grin........
All archives are compressed using pkzip (PKWARE (tm) 204G
using maximum compression.
All archives and their members have been scanned with the
latest virus scanners.
 
All files have file_id.diz's in them, GOOD ONE's, at that;
we added over 1,859 full descriptions when none were available
or the author thought that high ASCII looked better.
 
And on TOP of all that, we have made a great effort to remove
commercial files and other copyright infringements.
Now, what this means is that we set this ROM up for the BBS,
not the end user!!!!
 
We have, because of current legal cases and judgments within the
publishing community, removed VOC, WAVE, and MIDI sound files. The
real programs are still there; we just deleted the lawyer syndrome.
All of the GIF's are our own, no copyright infringements to worry
about. You are licensed as the ROM owner to distribute them to your
users.
 
There is also a feature authors DIR.  That's the authors we felt
exhibited professional demeanor in program ability and distribution
ease.  Plus, we have the text files that are the latest rage -- that
is, we have STEVE ROBERTS stuff, NOT Megabytes of FAQ's or other
drivel. We have taken great pains to think of the user and the SysOp.
You will find your users cruising through this easy file system and
praising you for the setup (that is, if you have great users like we
do).
 
Both the SuperMart BBS and PC-MONTANA BBS have handicapped users,
and thought went into the files and their placement to enhance the
interface for these special individuals.
 
Ok, now to the brass tacks:  Files -- there are 4,174;that's 624 MB +
uncompressed.  Dirs -- no, not 50 or 60, just 45 ; and this ROM will
interface with our first release, BIG SKY 01, so you don't have to do
a major setup all over again!
 
You've probably heard other SysOps saying that they're removing such &
such ROM offline because of one problem or another. We listen to these
SysOps; you are our bread and butter (low cost spread in this ROM's price).
 
Now, where can I get this ROM?  Well, read the list and you can order
this baby on-line or by fax (24 hours) or by voice (9-8 EST Mon-Sat).
 
*** PCJ COMPUTING ***   Data  -  1-615-478-2890   We stock 700+ titles
  All major credit      Fax   -  1-615-479-1047   Lowest prices around
  cards accepted        Voice -  1-615-339-0235   Download BIGSKY2.ZIP
  with no surcharge     Orders-  1-800-547-7817   for the files list.
  (No CODs)           Internet-  Douglas.Carpenter@Junction.Cld9.Com
                      Contact us regarding our Listserv mailing list
                    Compuserve-  71754.3514@Compuserve.Com
 
                      **  DEALER INQUIRIES WELCOME **
 
    PC-MONTANA BBS      Data  -  1-406-284-3120  THE MOTHER BOARD for
   (Product Support)                                BIG SKY ROMs !

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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 11245
  To: BRIAN EPSTEIN                            Date: 01/30/94 12:30p
Subj: Re: Yea!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Joe Rinehart is the one you should be leaving that message to......
I just replied to it,I'm not the one with the catalogs......
                        C-Ya,Chip Slate


... Let's Play Mail Tag......You're it.
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From: DAVID SEBRING                          Number: 11246
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/30/94  4:54p
Subj: JOURNEYMAN PROJECT CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                             FOR SALE

                       JOURNEYMAN PROJECT CD

                            WINDOWS MPC


                  The best Sci-Fi CD game to date!

        The World's First Photorealistic Adventure Game for CD-ROM!

                    Requires Windows 3.1 or later
                    CD ROM drive (double speed preferred)
                    SVGA (640 x 480-256 colors)
                    8MB RAM required
                    MPC compatible sound card


    ---------------------->   Only $50.00 (Includes Shipping!)




David Sebring
Voice 805-525-4649
Fax   805-525-6069

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From: DAVID SEBRING                          Number: 11247
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/30/94  4:54p
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                               FOR SALE

                             THE 7TH GUEST CD
                                   DOS  

              INCLUDES THE VIDEO THE MAKING OF THE 7TH GUEST

              A VIRTUAL REALITY PHOTOREALISTIC HAUNTED HOUSE

                     state of the art puzzle solving 
                               on CD-ROM for DOS




---------------------------> Only $45.00 (includes shipping!)



David Sebring
voice 805-525-4649
Fax   805-525-6069

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From: AL AGEE                                Number: 11248
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/30/94 12:23p
Subj: Custom cds                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I'll put 640mb of your data on an ISO 9660 standard CD for $49. If you don't
have a tape drive, I will restore from 1.44mb floppies for $0.25 each.

Advantages include:
- Speed       - My 10ms HD is only four times faster than CD. - Cost        -
CD costs $49, tape $100, 1.4mb floppy $200. - Security    - It can't be
changed. No virus threat. - Convenience - It's like adding another hard drive.

  o Make your own shareware disk.
  o Organize those huge graphics files.
  o Put your BBS on CD instead of buying another hard drive.
  o Distribute your data to several sites.
  o Back up your entire LAN or BBS.

Send QIC-80 or QIC-40 DC2120 tapes and cashiers check to: Allen Agee, 52 Sleepy
Hollow Rd, Andover NJ 07821. If you have questions, call me voice at
(201)786-7716 evenings.
===
 * The PC GFX Exchange * San Francisco, CA * (1:125/217)


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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 11249
  To: DONALD POLAK                             Date: 01/31/94  8:52a
Subj: Storm Ii & Iii                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> How much are you asking for them??

I have Storm II & III left.I'd take $45 for the both of them.

                        Diana

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From: NAEEM SHAIKH                           Number: 11250
  To: MIKE GERVASI                             Date: 01/31/94  1:24p
Subj: CDs to SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MG>RDBattle Chess - Enhanced version


How much for the BATTLE CHESS CD? I want it. :)
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From: NAEEM SHAIKH                           Number: 11251
  To: JORDAN DEVRIJ                            Date: 01/31/94  1:24p
Subj: t7g                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JD>Hello i am selling my 2 disk version of the seventh geust. I will sell it fo
JD>45 $$ or best offer there are no scratches or anything wrong with ith it. It

What are the memory requirments?

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From: NAEEM SHAIKH                           Number: 11252
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 01/31/94  1:24p
Subj: * CD-ROM Disks for SALE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GE>CD-ROMS for Sale

GE>Chessmaster 3000 ...............................  $22

Give ME!! :)
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From: NAEEM SHAIKH                           Number: 11253
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94  1:24p
Subj: CD Rom Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a double-spin CD-ROM with a <200 ms access time.
Cab someone give me some quotes on prices?
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 11254
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 01/31/94  9:20a
Subj: cd trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GS>Will mail AF on Mon. also.

OK, Done Deal!
 þ SLMR 2.1a þ 

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 11255
  To: SCOTT STURGILL                           Date: 01/31/94  8:06p
Subj: Adult Cd's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SS>6) National Parks

I'de give you 15$ for this CD if your interested.
                                Let Me Know,  SHane
 þ SLMR 2.1a þ 

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From: RICHARD BUNTON                         Number: 11256
  To: SANDRA SCOPPETTONE                       Date: 01/31/94  6:03p
Subj: CD ROM FOR TRADE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*******  Original Msg. From: Sandra Scoppettone  To: Rick Auras  *******
       
SS*  I have Sherlock Vol 1.$20.
>>*****************************************************************************

I will trade you "Mixed Up Mother Goose" for your Sherlock.

If interested...Reply here...or, (to save time), Ship to:

Richard Bunton
311 Grand
Belton, Mo. 64012-1432

1-816-331-8296


 ***************
 *   Richard   *
 ***************

 * DeLuxe2/386 1.25 #3885 * Give me 5 more Meg of RAM and I could rule the
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From: MICHAEL HADEN                          Number: 11257
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 01/31/94 10:06p
Subj: Storm Ii Or Iii                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Diana I am shipping on 2-01-94
Got Msg today and will ship I would like
Storm III
Send to Mike Haden
      1020 Miami
      Kansas City Ks,
      66105
Ps well it was nice doing business with ya
Let me have a reply back when you are shipping mine I will ship
2 day priorty its only a couple a bucks and you will get it in two days
Will you do the same for you should get the cd about the same time you get this
msg Thanks in advance TTYL



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From: JIMMY SOYSAL                           Number: 11258
  To: DAVE                                     Date: 01/31/94  6:14p
Subj: bbs                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Nice bbs like it a lot how can you get more access?

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From: CLAYTON MANSON                         Number: 11259
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 01/30/94 11:44p
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MH> > ********* FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS *********
MH> >                      $25.00 for the first node
MH> >              $15.00 each additional node (up to five)
MH> >              $12.00 each additional node (up to ten)
MH> >              $10.00 each additional node thereafter

MH>David,
MH>If you get rid of the per node BS I might be interested in this disk.

Thought this was strange myself.
Definitely a "Stay-Away-From" product.

Clayton Manson
TITAN Software Solutions

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From: DUSTY JAMES                            Number: 11260
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/01/94  9:59a
Subj: cd disk drive?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hey!..first thing is I don't know what to call what I need...<G> (no female
jokes please!)...I want an internal cd rom drive (?)...can't afford a new
one...we homeschool our 2 boys and I have included computer studies as part of
their curriculum...we would like to have the encyclopedia and history cd's as
part of the studies...there are soooo many learning cds out there...if anyone
could offer information we would appreciate it...I have a 486/sx...it has an
open slot for a 5.25 disk drive...have the sound blaster fx card...does this
help?


Dusty

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From: JOHN COOK                              Number: 11261
  To: MICHAEL CHAMBERLAIN                      Date: 01/31/94  2:56p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike,
I'll call Mr. Ferrell today and have him send you the catalog. I just got
2 discs from him and need to call to let him know how they 'viewed'. I got
Sizzle and Digital Dreams 2.


... I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere!
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From: THOMAS BAIRD                           Number: 11262
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94 10:09p
Subj: CD-Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What's the most highly recommend CD-Rom out there that supports OS/2?

                                               -THoMaS BaiRD

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From: RICARDO E MOSQUERA, MD                 Number: 11263
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 01/29/94 11:08a
Subj: % CD-ROM Disks                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

thank you very much I
will make the check and forward to you this week

RICARDO E MOSQUERA
8581 NW 54TH ST.
MIAMI FLORIDA 33166  
 

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From: LEON PETERS                            Number: 11264
  To: TOM HUNT                                 Date: 02/01/94  1:05a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HOW ABOUT SENDING ONE MY WAY  LEON PETERS   PSC 2 BOX 958  APO AA 34002  
 

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From: GLYNN LITTLETON                        Number: 11265
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/01/94 12:18p
Subj: Disappearing .dat files                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* Written in: ROBO
Haven't read this one yet so it must be unique to me.  I've just
started using RoboFX 1.02a as a two node system and running on a
VDM.  Whenever I load robocfg, I lose my filebase and msgbase.dat
files although nothing happens to robouser.dat.  I've also noticed
that callers cannot download fxt102.exe although it is correctly
defined in robocfg.

Any ideas?

Thanks, Glynn


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 11266
  To: STEVE KRAISLER                           Date: 02/01/94  9:41a
Subj: world and us atlas                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SK>I have BOTH the newest versions of Software Toolworks World Atlas and US ATl
SK>(version 4.0 ).  They are the windows cd's (MPC) versions with loads of real
SK>time video "flybys"  I'll sell both for 30 bucks or 17 each.  You pay shippi

   I'll offer you $25 including shipping for the pair.
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ P.O. Box 209 Marlton NJ 08053-0209


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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 11267
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 01/30/94  4:52p
Subj: Adult cd's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >                       S A Y L O R   E N T E R P R I S
 > E S
 >                                  P.O. Box 2083
 >                             Indianapolis, IN  46206

 >                           ( 3 1 7 )   8 8 1 - 9 3 9 1
 >                 SHIPPING AND HANDLING CHARGE IS $5.00
 > PER ORDER
 >            PRICING AND AVAILABILITY IS SUBJECT TO
 > CHANGE AT ANY TIME
 >                   ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄ
 > ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
 >                   ³
 >       ³
 >                   ³   These discs contain ADULT
 > material!    ³
 >                   ³        FOR SALE TO ADULTS ONLY!
 >       ³
 >                   ³
 >       ³
 >                   ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄ
 > ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ

 > AMATUER MODELS (X)  - - - $25.00
 >     Over 500 full colr SVGA images of beautiful women.
 >  650 megs of centerfold
 >     style layouts.  Photographs by professionals from
 > around the world.  All
 >     images are in 1024 x 768 x 256 color format and
 > 16.7 million color 24 bit
 >     TIFF format.  ViewCD CD-ROM viewer for easy
 > viewing.  Automatic
 >     installation for quick startup.  FILES.BBS
 > description file.
 >     BBS Ready

 > BUSTY BABES #2 (XXX)  - - - $30.00
 >      New copyrighted collection of California Girls.
 > BBS ready.  "Show Off"
 >      interface makes this a real joy to run.

 > DIGITAL DREAMS (X)  - - - $25.00
 >      GIF images, adult images.  BBS ready.  660
 > Megabytes of original images.
 >      Easy installation.  A real classy disc.

 > SWEET DREAMS (X)  - - - $30.00
 >      Collection of sexy ladies that will give you
 > "Sweet Dreams". Interactive
 >      options on this slick new interface. BBS ready.

 > SUPER SMUTWARE (XXX)  - - - $26.00
 >      640 Megabytes.  1,000 1024x768x256 color images
 > and 2,000 800x600 images.
 >      100 adult animations.  BBS ready.

 > WILD WOMEN (XXX)  - - - $26.00
 >      600 Megabytes of "HOT" adult GIFS.  Easy user
 > interface. BBS ready.


Can you please send your current price list of shareware and adult cds  here in
this conference or snail mail to:

Scott Raley
P.O.Box 66
Ridge, MD 20680-0066

thanks!

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 11268
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 01/30/94  4:59p
Subj: CDs to SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > RD>DOS.....whatcha got?

 > Adult discs:
 > Giffy Gold
 > Adult Reference Library

 > Software:
 > Publish-It Lite! w/large extra manual (DTP program)
 > Caveman Ugh-Olympics
 > Battle Tank (unopened)
 > Diet Balancer
 > MB Teaches Typing

 > Thanks
 > Randy


I would like to trade for Giffy Gold or I will offer you $22 for it shipped to
me.

Please let me know.

Thanks
Scott Raley

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 11269
  To: DAN PROCIV                               Date: 01/30/94  5:01p
Subj: Cdrom dealer           01               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PLease send your catalog of shareware and or adult cdroms here to me in this
echo or via netmail to 1:2612/104 or snail mail to:

Scott Raley
P.O.Box 66
Ridge, MD 20680-0066

thanks!

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 11270
  To: LAYN HUFFMAN                             Date: 01/30/94  5:06p
Subj: CDS TO SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Roger, how bout a trade of your XXX Extreme for
 > Ecstasy Hot Pics.
 > BBS ready, Mostly XXX gifs, includes several
 > directories on the
 > bizarre (kinky stuff). Also contains animations of
 > .FLI and .GL with
 > viewers.

 > Layn Huffman

If the trade doesn't go through I will buy your cd for $21 shipped to me.

thanks
Scott Raley

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 11271
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 01/31/94  4:13p
Subj: Re: Bbv2 For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will trade you Shareware Gold and shareware to the maxx for FAO1.
 
please let me know.
 
thanks
Scott

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From: KEVIN DOUGLAS                          Number: 11272
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/01/94 12:00a
Subj: Flame Adult CD-ROM $39.00 + Shipping    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Flame adult CD shipping in volume!
Five hours to see it all (once)!
(an Orbital Madness copyrighted production)

Flame CD highlights:

* over 3000 adult explicit 'fantasy' GIF files, brightness/contrast
  adjusted for VGA monitor display, all images 640x480x256 or better
* ISO 9660 format CD readable on Amiga, MS-DOS, OS/2, Mac and UNIX machines.
* pure images without distracting BBS ads, logos or duplications
* files with similar image content are placed in 19 named directories
* BBS-ready FILES.BBS (size,resolution/color depth) listings for each
  image category
* no minors, violence, beastiality or text files
* NOMSSI and SVGA viewers run straight off the CD!
* type NV to start the slideshow-easy NOMSSI viewer
* type SVGA to start the SVGA viewer

Some samples of the 19 areas on disk include>

Directory       Megs    Images
Backdoor        42      224
BigBoobs        24      127
Groups          25      147
Females only    40      231
Oral            85      496
Toys            27      177
Transsex         8       61

Flame is $39.00 plus $4.00 handling/shipping cont. US.  We take AMEX, Visa, MC,
Money Orders, prepaid personal check and COD/cash orders. Reseller volume
orders are also handled.  Email to the addresses below or call us 24hrs at
804-979-2035, FAX 804-979-4319.

FidoNet:  Kevin Douglas @ 1:2618/101
Internet: kevin_douglas%amigabw@adastra.cvl.va.us

Snail Mail:   Silicon Software
              PO. BOX 68    
              Earlysville, VA 22936

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From: G. LARRY WEBB                          Number: 11273
  To: BILL ODOM                                Date: 01/31/94  1:26p
Subj: BOOKSHELF/ENCARTA                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

i got the message you are interested in bookshelf 1992 OEM and
the 1993 version of Encarta on CD ROM. what price did you see?
your message did not quote a price; i was asking $70 plus
shipping. Post me your offer and we'll see where we go (if you
are still interested). Thanks!

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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 11274
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 01/30/94 11:36p
Subj:  <-> King's Quest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Then it happened.......

DKHere's my address:


  Great, I'll send the disk out tommorrow (1 Feb). Let me know when 
it arrives, I'll do the same.

                          Mike

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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 11275
  To: STEVE KRAISLER                           Date: 01/31/94 12:08a
Subj: world and us atlas                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Then it happened......SKI have BOTH the newest versions of Software 
Toolworks World Atlas and US 
SKATlas (version 4.0 ).  They are the windows cd's (MPC) versions with 
load
SKreal time video "flybys"  I'll sell both for 30 bucks or 17 each. 

   I'll send you 30 for both.

   If this is cool give me the address to send the $$.

  Mine is

  Mike Gervasi
  US NAS PSC 1002 Box 1174
  FPO AE 09727

  US mail please!


                                   Thanks,
                                        Mike  

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From: MARK COHEN                             Number: 11276
  To: RAY DENALLI                              Date: 01/30/94  4:04p
Subj: RE: FLORIDA STATUTES                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I remember someone posting about Florida statutes. In the Feb. issue of
CD Rom World on page 62 its reviewed and listed for $89. Toll free # is
1 800 783-3766.

Hope this helps whoever is looking for it.


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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 11277
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/01/94  6:16p
Subj: ShareWare OnLine #3 Preorders           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    !!! NOW ACCEPTING PREORDERS !!! 
 
ShareWare OnLine 3 will soon be released!  We are now 
accepting preorders.  The preorder price is $34.95 and 
as always you get FREE shipping to your door for 
preordering.  Registered users of ShareWare OnLine will 
be receiving your special order instructions by mail soon. 
 
This new disc will contain over 600 MEGS of new software. 
Many programs come directly from the author so the dupe 
rate will be low to other CDs.  The CD will be fully BBS 
ready with full multi-line file descriptions.  A master 
directory of BBS file descriptions will be included as 
well as description index files in each directory. 
 
We have updated our retrieval software to run faster 
and install easier.  You may tag, copy, view, unzip, 
and view pictures directly from the retrieval software. 
 
You may preorder your disc by telephone or send your 
order by mail to the address listed below.  Credit cards 
and checks are not cashed until we ship. 
 
Your complete satisfaction is GUARANTEED with ShareWare 
OnLine #3. 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
Orders Only: 800-768-7929   Information: 812-442-0110 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 11278
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/01/94  6:16p
Subj: Software Tool Chest Ships 02-03!        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     !!! COMMING SOON FROM CMS SOFTWARE !!! 
 
We are now accepting preorders for our all new utility disc. 
"The Software Tool Chest" will be released on or about 
02-01-1994.  Look below for a sample of what this disc contains. 
If you wish to download the final description lists call the 
CMS Support BBS at 812-898-2561 anytime 24 hours.  HST 14.4 
online.  Look in file area #3 for TOOL.ZIP.  Available first call. 
 
This disc will include literally thousands of utility programs for 
just about every use you can think of.  No other collection comes 
even close this fabulous new collection.  You will find DOS and 
Windows utilities alike.  The ENTIRE LINUX operating system is 
also included on this disc.  Hundreds of programs for OS/2 are 
included.  If you have been looking for a source for networking 
software look no further.  Two full directories dedicated to 
networking.  Two directories of graphics utility programs. 
Virus protection programs are also included.  MOD music editing 
programs and music and sound players and programs.  Utilities 
for your printer and hundreds of communications and BBS utilities 
plus SO MUCH MORE. 
 
You ask why should I buy this disc?  This disc offers several 
special features not found anywhere else.  First and most im- 
portant this is the LARGEST collection of utilities you will 
find.  The disc is fully BBS ready with file descriptions in 
five formats so you will most likely be able to find a format 
suited for your needs.  If not just call us and we will convert 
one to your format.  Excellent custom file retrieval software is 
also included for the end users.  This software is very user 
friendly.  All menu driven.  Just type GO COLOR or GO MONO to 
start.  This software allows the user to tag, copy, view, unZIP, 
and even view graphics without installing them to your hard 
drive.  Preview contents or graphics before installing.  Program 
dates all the way up till the end of 1993.  No files are older 
than 1991. 
 
We are now accepting preorders.  Your check or credit card will 
not be charged until the day we ship.  In return for your pre- 
order you will get free shipping to your door.  Expected ship 
date: 02-01-1994.  Only $34.95 and free shipping! 
 
 CMS SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
BBS: 812-898-2561  Questions: 812-442-0110  Orders: 800-768-7929 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 11279
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/01/94  6:16p
Subj: CD-ROM Software Elimination             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   CMS SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING 
                         P.O. BOX 165 
                     SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
                         812-442-0110 
 
                      Updated 02-01-1994 
 
Its a fact.  CMS is overstocked and to make room for the 
upcomming remodeling and expansion of CMS Software we MUST 
LIQUIDATE the following inventory.  Grab any of the following 
discs for $15 each, unless otherwise noted, while supplies last. 
Buy 7 and select one FREE*.  We will hold nothing back until this 
inventory is GONE.  One of some titles and hundreds of others 
but it ALL must go.  Some discs are used and most are new but 
all are guaranteed against defects.  Dealers call now for bulk 
pricing.  You may grab as many as you like and pay only $3 
shipping**.  You may place your order on Mastercard or Visa or we 
will ship your order COD for $5.00 additional.  You may mail 
your order with a personal check or money order to the address 
at the top of this ad.  * Free CD must be $15 or less.  ** A small 
insurance fee is added to each order. 
 
!!! 650+ MEG Shareware CD only $5.95 with any purchase !!! 
 
Barney Bear Goes to School 
675 MEG Windows CD-ROM          Multi-Media Bookshelf ($25) 
Barney Bear Goes to Space       Fresh Arte Clipart 
Software Vault Gold 
FontMaster                      Toolworks MM Enyc. 1.5 ($25) 
LaserTax On CD-ROM              Consumer Guide to CD-ROMs 
Clipart Goliath                 Bibles & Religion 
PC-SIG Version 11 
Black Box Shareware #4 
Black Box Shareware #2          Career Opportunities 
2000 Pictures CD-ROM 
ShareWare OnLine II 
Software Treasure Chest         Crossword Cracker 
LookUp 9 Digit ZIP Lookup ($25) 
DataBase Made Easy              Swimwear 1993 
Storm #2 ($25) 
Mother Earth II                 Fightsmart 
Adult Reference Library ($30) 
Digital Dreams #1 ($25)         Time Almanac 
Quick Art Clipart               PC Sig Library #10 
Between Heaven & Hell II        Digital Dreams #2 ($25) 
Gameware Collection             Danger Hot Stuff 
Klotski Polish Puzzles 
CAD Utility Library             Adult Picture Library #1 ($25) 
Paolo Galli Portfolio #1 ($20)  Paolo Galli Portfolio #2 ($20) 
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Grab the following titles for only $10.00 each while supplies 
last.  1 of some and 100's of others but all will surely go 
quickly so get you orders in today. 
 
Phoenix Phun & Games            Brain Drain Games 
Oldies But Goodies Games        Bed & Breakfast Photo Tour 
Mirror Mirror                   Reel Clips 
Futura Games                    Let's Play (Games) 
Variety Store (Games)           Taxprep 
Selectware Software             MPC Wizard 
PC Gameroom                     Middle East Diary 
 
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  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/01/94  6:16p
Subj: CD-ROM Software Bundles                 Refer: NONE
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Look below for some great CD-ROM Software Bundles from CMS. 
All discs are IN STOCK ready for shipment. 
 
               ***** SINGLE CD PRICING ***** 
 
     600+ MEG Shareware CD only $5.95 with any purchase. 
 
Software Tool Chest - $34.95   Digital Delights (2-19) - $38.95 
ShareWare OnLine #2 - $29.95   Adult Reference Library - $37.95 
GameWare Collection - $24.95   SoundWare Collection    - $29.95 
Storm-2 Adult       - $22.95   ShareWare OnLine #3     - $34.95 (2-25) 
User's Choice Windows $29.95   A.P.L. Adult            - $37.95 
Digital Dreams 1    - $24.95   Swimwear 93             - $19.95 
Digital Dreams 2    - $28.95   Software Treasure Chest - $24.95 
 
              ***** BUNDLED CD PRICING ***** 
 
User's Choice Windows          SoundWare Collection 
ShareWare OnLine #2            GameWare Collection 
Software Treasure Chest        ShareWare OnLine #2 
    $49.95                         $49.95 
 
ShareWare OnLine #2            Digital Dreams #2 
SoundWare Collection           A.P.L. Adult 
GameWare Collection            Adult Reference Library 
User's Choice Windows          Digital Dreams #1 
Software Treasure Chest        Storm-2 Adult 
Software Tool Chest                $119.95 
    $139.95 
 
                               User's Choice Windows 
Software Treasure Chest        ShareWare OnLine #2 
ShareWare OnLine #2            A.P.L. Adult 
    $39.95                     Storm-2 
                                   $74.95 
 
Storm-2 Adult                  Storm-2 Adult 
A.P.L. Adult                   Adult Reference Library 
    $49.95                     A.P.L. Adult 
                                   $69.95 
 
Adult Reference Library        A.P.L. Adult 
Storm-2 Adult                  Adult Reference Library 
Digital Dreams #2                  $54.95 
    $69.95 
                               ShareWare OnLine #2 
A.P.L./User's Choice           A.P.L. Adult 
    $44.95                         $44.95 
 
CMS accepts Visa & Mastercard, check, M.O., and COD orders. 
$5.00 standard shipping on any order.  These prices are in 
effect for a short time only.  Get your orders sent TODAY! 
CMS does accept your trades!  PUBLISHERS: Call us to trade 
your titles for ours!  Last updated: 01-30-1994. 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
TELEPHONE: 812-442-0110 
 
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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 11281
  To: PEGGY LANDT                              Date: 02/01/94 11:33a
Subj: Pirate CDs                              Refer: NONE
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Peggy Landt uttered the following to All :
-PL> These "scum" are one of the reasons we pay such high prices for software.

IMHO, whoever thinks piracy is the cause for such high prices on software, is
crazY!  It's actually the other way around.  High prices causes piracy!  I
wish the software industry would see this cause piracy would almost cease to
exist if the prices came WAY down.  But then again, I'm sure the software
industry already knows.  They just want to charge so dang much!  I for one
would love to see prices drop.  I could then buy a LOT more stuff at one time
instead of always having to save so long and wait and wait.  Thanks for
listening...  Back to CD-ROMs...<G>

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From: DAVID MANZ                             Number: 11282
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94  3:37a
Subj: compleate list of CD's for sale.        Refer: NONE
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                 Precision Computers & Electronics Prodly
                 presents a list of affordable CD's......
                 Call 407-469-3204 (voice) for newest prices
                 and newest titles.
                 You can also reach us at The PowerHouse BBS
                            407-469-2414
                 Or at one of the following addresses...
                 1:363/227@FIDONET
                 68:1400/104@CINAMANET
                 62:3800/35@WORLDNET
                 255:1407/111@EZNET


20th Century Video Almanac.................$29.00
20th Century Video Almanac 5 disc set......$52.00
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea...............$25.00
600 Days to Cocos Island...................$35.00
7 Days in August...........................$48.00
9-Digit Zip Codes..........................$29.00
93/94 Mega Movie Guide.....................$56.00
A Line In the Sand.........................$35.00
A+ Grade Builders..........................$42.00
About Cows.................................$25.00
Accumail Quarterly.........................$200.00
Accumail Zip Code-Yearly...................$750.00
Action By Canyon...........................$48.00
Adventures In Heaven.......................$22.00
Adventures In Travel.......................$45.00
Adventures of Pinocchio....................$31.00
Aesop's Fables.............................$31.00
Aesopolis  (Mac Version only)..............$66.00
Aircraft Encyclopedia......................$30.00
Alice in Wonderland........................$46.00
All music guide............................$37.00
Aloha Hawaii...............................$24.00
Amanda's Stories...........................$55.00
Amazing Universe...........................$62.00
America Alive   (MAC only).................$59.00
America in Motion..........................$70.00
America's Premier Shareware................$20.00
American Business Phonebook (94)...........$29.00
"                         " (92)...........$21.00
"                         " (93)...........$32.00
American Heritage Encyclopedia Dict........$70.00
American Vista.............................$38.00
Aminet for Amiga...( Amiga only)...........$20.00
Anglo Saxons...............................$120.00
Animals Encyclopedia (Multimedia)..........$38.00
Animals in Motion..........................$45.00
Annibel's Dream of Ancient Egypt...........$64.00
AOPA Aircraft owners and Polots............$132.00
APOLLO: Space series Project...............$29.00
Architectural CD...........................$20.00
Arthur Teacher Troubles....................$27.00....for MAC...$52.00
ASP Advantage..............................$20.00
Atlas of US Presidents.....................$32.00
Audio 1 by Knowledge Media.................$20.00
Audubon Mammals Encyclopedia...............$23.00
Auduon's Birds of North America............$23.00
Authorware Star & Macromind Action.........$60.00
Bakers Dozen Games for Windows.............$28.00
Barney Bear goes to school.................$18.00
Barney Bear goes to Space..................$18.00
Barron's Guide to Colleges.................$25.00
Baseball Scouting report 92'...............$27.00
Batik Designs..............................$23.00
Battle Chess CD............................$30.00
Beacon.....................................$725.00
Beauty & the Beast.........................$31.00
Best of Shareware..........................$21.00
Best of the Bureau.........................$14.00
Beyond the Wall of Stars...................$27.00
Bible Library 9............................$45.00
Bibles & Religion..........................$16.00
Big Bug Alphabet Book......................$37.00
Black Box..................................$20.00
Blue Force.................................$51.00
Bonanza Shareware -3 disk set-.............$47.00
Book of lists 3rd Edition..................$40.00
Bring the World to your Senses.............$29.00
Britanica Select...........................$27.00
Business & Economic Atlas (INTL)...........$27.00
Business 500...............................$39.00
Business Backgrounds.......................$24.00
Business Library Vol 1.....................$51.00
Business Marketplace.......................$55.00
Business Master............................$21.00
C - Source User' Group Library.............$27.00
California Collection......................$20.00
California Travel..........................$29.00
Cameron Fine Art...........................$36.00
Canadian Shareware.........................$17.00
Capital Hill...............................$24.00
Capstone CD Gme Collection.................$35.00
Careers....................................$29.00
Cartoon Idioms.............................$33.00
Case of the Cautious Condor................$31.00
CD ROM Directory Unidisc #8................$135.00
CD ROM Expo................................$5.00
CD ROM Tour................................$15.00
CD Source Book of American History.........$61.00
Chaos, Fractals & Magic....................$30.00
Chess Maniac CD DOS........................$48.00
ChessMaster 3000...........................$25.00
Chicano Data Base..........................$39.00
Childrens Treasury of Stories & Rhymes.....$45.00
China Scenies..............................$48.00
Christmas Carol............................$24.00
CIA World Factbook 750 (DOS)...............$15.00
Classic Collection.........................$37.00
Cleaning Disk for CD.......................$15.00
Clinton Portrait of Victory................$36.00
Clipart Galore Vol 2.......................$32.00
Clipart Goliath............................$16.00
Clipart Heaven.............................$23.00
Coates Arts-Impressionism..................$29.00
Collectors Edition Games...................$50.00
Color Magic Clipart........................$30.00
Colossal Cookbook..........................$17.00
Complete Bookshop..........................$17.00
Complete Home & Business Legal Guide.......$17.00
Complete House.............................$39.00
Composer's Quest...........................$35.00
Compton's Multimedia Encyclopedia.(MPC)....$64.00
Compton's Camily Encyclopedia..............$68.00
Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia.........$90.00
Computer Answers ADV. Backgammon...........$33.00
Computer Ref. Library......................$16.00
Conan The Cimmerian........................$35.00
Conquest of Longbow........................$57.00
Constitution Papers........................$47.00
Consumer Information Database..............$29.00
Cookbook Heaven............................$23.00
Corel Art Show 91..........................$50.00
Corel Artshow 3............................$52.00
Corel Draw 3.0.............................$200.00
Countries of the World.....................$350.00
Cream of the Crop..........................$23.00
Crossword Cracker..........................$28.00
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Curious George Learns the Alphabet.........$45.00  (MAC Only)
Curse of Enchanta..........................$35.00
Cyberginic Ranger..........................$20.00
Danger Hot Stuff..(Super Demo).............$28.00
Dark Sun Shattered Lands...................$66.00
Darwin.....................................$60.00
Day of the Tentacle/Maniac Mansion.........$50.00
Daytime Express............................$31.00
Deathstar Arcade Battles...................$16.00
Desert Storm War By Time Mag...............$30.00
Desert Storm: Coalition Command............$29.00
Desktop Bookshop...........................$27.00
Destination Mars...........................$42.00
Dictionaries & Languages...................$16.00
Dictionary of the Living World.............$29.00
Dinosaur Adventure.........................$35.00
Dinosaur Encyclopedia......................$28.00
Doctor Of Games............................$26.00
Doctor of Windows..........................$26.00
Don Quixote................................$29.00
Dracula Unleashed..........................$63.00
Dream Disk for Desktop Publishers..........$47.00
Dr. Jam....................................$65.00
Dune.......................................$58.00
Ecoquest: The Search for Cetus.............$56.00
Education Master-2nd Edition...............$27.00
Educational Gameland.......................$31.00
Electricity Magnetism......................$39.00
Electronic Cookbook: New Basics............$32.00
Electronic Home Library....................$39.00
Encarta Encyclopedia By Microsoft..........$99.00
Encyclopedia Groliers 2.0 For Dos 91.......$27.00
Encyclopedia Groliers 1.5 For Windows......$40.00
Encyclopedia groliers 4.0 for MAC..........$58.00
Encyclopedia Groliers 5.0 for Dos 92.......$45.00
Encyclopedia Groliers 6.0..................$49.00
Encyclopedia of Sounds.....................$16.00
Eric the Unready...........................$47.00
Essential Home and Business Collection.....$26.00
Europe Alive...............................$57.00
European Monarchs..........................$29.00
Exploring Mathmatics.......................$17.00
Extavaganza Shareware 4 disk set...........$41.00
F15/F117A..................................$31.00
F15 Strike Eagle 3.........................$67.00
Facts on File Public Domain................$40.00
Family Choice-Comptons.....................$32.00
Family Doctor..............................$25.00
Family Education Collection................$29.00
Family Fun.................................$15.00
Family Physician...........................$200.00
Fantazia Fonts and Sounds..................$31.00
Fatty Bears Birthday.......................$59.00
Firearms Compendium........................$50.00
Fish Eye View (MAC)........................$50.00
Flight 642.................................$34.00
Florida Statutes...........................$79.00
Fly Fishing................................$41.00
Fontmaster CD Library......................$20.00
Contmaster II..............................$25.00
Food Analyst...............................$41.00
Fook Analyst Plus..........................$165.00
Fractal Ecstasy............................$46.00
Fractunes..................................$30.00
Fractools..................................$30.00
French : By Hyperglot......................$70.00
Fresh Arte 1...............................$34.00
Front Page News............................$48.00
Full Bloom.................................$32.00
Funny......................................$44.00
Future Wars................................$57.00
Gaby Shareware.............................$27.00
Game Pack 2................................$29.00
Game Pack 1................................$29.00
GameMaster.................................$21.00
Games- PC Sig..............................$19.00
Garbo CD may 1992 ISO-9660 Format..........$19.00
Gardening..................................$16.00
Geekwad....................................$31.00
German: By Hyperglot.......................$155.00
Gifs Galore................................$19.00
Giga Games.................................$25.00
Global Explorer............................$100.00
Goferwinkles Adventures....................$35.00
Golden Immortal............................$31.00
Golf Guide.................................$36.00
Grammy Awards Audio Intro..................$7.00
Graphic Photos.............................$28.00
Grammy's...................................$59.00
Graphic Textures...........................$35.00
Graphics 1 by Knowledge Media..............$21.00
Great Cities of the World vol. 1...........$25.00
Great Cities of the World Vol 2............$25.00
Great Literature...........................$62.00
Great Poetry Classics......................$42.00
Great Wonders of the World.................$37.00
Great Wonders of the World 2...............$43.00
Greatest Air Battles.......................$36.00
Greatest Books Collection..................$34.00
Greatest Children's Stories Ever Told......$46.00  (mac only)
Guinness Dosc of Records 93................$25.00
Guinness Book of World Records (Mac).......$29.00
Guinness Book of World Records Dos.........$31.00
Guinness Book of World Records MPC.........$30.00
Gunnship 2000..............................$31.00
Guy Spy....................................$42.00
Hablamos Ingles!...........................$47.00
Hacker Chronicles..........................$30.00
Hall of Fame Shareware.....................$21.00
Ham Call...................................$45.00
Ham Radio-Chestnut.........................$14.00
Ham Radio Shareware (AMSOFT)...............$39.00
Hamware 1993...............................$45.00
Health and Medical Care Disc...............$46.00
Heart: The Engine of Life..................$90.00
Helgerson Cd ROM Source Disc...............$20.00
Hell Cab...................................$74.00
History of the World.......................$68.00
Hobbes OS/2................................$18.00
Hollywood : The Bizarre....................$76.00
Holy Bible Master Series...................$27.00
Horror and SCI FI Motion Pic. Guide........$76.00
Hot Stuff 2................................$29.00
Humans.....................................$34.00
Hurchinsen's Encycolpedia..................$31.00
Hyper Backgammon...........................$32.00
Illustrated Holy Bible.....................$48.00
Image Library II...........................$15.00
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Images with Imact CDX......................$335.00
Impressionism and it's Source..............$38.00
INCA.......................................$51.00
Indiana Jones..............................$50.00
Info MAC II................................$30.00
Info USA...................................$39.00
Interactive Old Testament..................$50.00
Interactive Story Time 1...................$25.00
"                    " 2...................$25.00
"                    " 3...................$25.00
Internet Connection Shareware..............$29.00
Introduction to Classical Music............$77.00
Inspector Gadget...........................$61.00
Island Designs 2 disk set..................$31.00
Italian Bertlitz by Hyperglot..............$135.00
Jazz a Multimedia History..................$35.00
Jedi Collection............................$45.00
Jets & Props 2 disk Set....................$32.00
Jewish Bookshelf...........................$80.00
Jones in the Fast Land.....................$25.00
Journeyman Project (MAC)...................$73.00
Jurassic & other Dinosaurs.................$21.00
Just Fonts.................................$41.00
Just Grandma and Me........................$45.00
Justis EC Law on CD........................$1050.00
Jutland....................................$56.00
Kaa's Hunting..............................$33.00
KGB World Fact Book........................$38.00
Kids Can Read/Aesop's Fables...............$25.00 \
"            "Benjamin Bunny...............$25.00  \
"            "Cinderella...................$25.00   \
"            "Heather Hets a Home Run......$25.00    \
"            "Long Hard Day at The Ranch...$25.00     \
"            "Moving gives me a Stomach....$25.00      \ All for 225.00
"            "Mud Puddle...................$25.00     /
"            "Paper Bag Princess...........$25.00    /
"            "Peter Rabbit.................$25.00  /
"            "Scary Poems Rotten Kids......$25.00/
King James Bible...........................$33.00
King Arthur's Magic Castle.................$37.00
Kings Quest V..............................$25.00
Kings Quest VI.............................$42.00
Klotski....................................$19.00
Knowledge Media-Multimedia.................$27.00
Kodak Photo CD.............................$17.00
La Coleccion...............................$18.00
Labyrinth of Time..........................$63.00
Language /OS by Knowledge Media............$23.00
Language Discovery.........................$29.00
Languages of the World.....................$45.00
Laset Tax..................................$29.00
Learning Fun For Kids......................$42.00
Learning Heaven............................$24.00
Learning Lotus 1-2-3.......................$32.00
Learning Windows 3.1.......................$26.00
Legend of Kyrandia.........................$61.00
Leisure Suit Larry.........................$63.00
Lessons in American History................$67.00
Library of the Future......................$48.00
Libraty of the Future 950..................$255.00
Libris Britannica..........................$49.00
Linux Operating System.....................$41.00
Lion Share.................................$21.00
Loom.......................................$21.00
Lord of the Rings..........................$57.00
Lost Treasures of Infocom..................$44.00
Lotus 1-2-3 for Windows....................$103.00
Lovely Ladies II...........................$38.00
Lyric Language French......................$35.00
Lyric Language Spanish.....................$35.00
Macademic Volume (MAC).....................$37.00
Mad Dog McCree.............................$52.00
Magazine Article Summaries.................$25.00
Magazine Rack..............................$25.00
Magic Lips Music...........................$23.00
Majestic Places............................$32.00
Manhole Game...............................$33.00
Mantis EXP Fighter.........................$27.00
Map Expert.................................$330.00
Marketing Master...........................$22.00
Matinee....................................$27.00
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing................$32.00
Max The Dragon.............................$61.00
Mayo Clinic................................$31.00
Mcgraw Holl Science & Technical Ref........$380.00
Mediasource General 1......................$335.00
Mediasource General 2......................$335.00
Mediasource Historical.....................$335.00
Mediasource Natural Sciences...............$335.00
Mediasource Sampler........................$31.00
Medical Year Book (1988)...................$32.00
Mega media 1 by Knowledge Media............$23.00
Mega Rom-MAC...............................$27.00
Mega Rom 1.................................$27.00
Mega Rom 2.................................$27.00
Microsoft Musical Instruments..............$67.00
Microsoft Business Consult & Stat Pak......$110.00
Microsoft Cinemania........................$73.00
Microsoft Golf.............................$61.00
Microsoft Video For  Windows...............$175.00
Microsoft Windows 3.1 MPC..................$67.00
Microsoft Works for Windows................$48.00
Middle East Diary..........................$41.00
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Mixed Up Mother Goose...........................$21.00
Monarch Cliff Notes the Classics................$75.00
Money, Money, Money.............................$31.00
Monster Media 2.................................$29.00
Mormon Encylopedia Disk.........................$73.00
Mother Earth II.................................$35.00
Mowgli's Brother................................$32.00
Mozart..........................................$31.00
MS Mozart.......................................$71.00
MS Stravinski...................................$71.00
MS Dinosaurs....................................$71.00
Multibible......................................$47.00
Multimedia Audio Collection.....................$32.00
Multimedia Beethoven............................$70.00
Multimedia Family Bible.........................$33.00
Multimedia Madness w/Book.......................$40.00
Murder Makes Strange Deadfellows................$41.00
Murmers of Earth................................$59.00
Music Bytes.....................................$71.00
National Geographic Mammals.....................$38.00
National Parks..................................$38.00
National Registry of Historic Places............$195.00
NATO  Scientific Database.......................$825.00
Nautilus- Best of Photography...................$21.00
Nautilus Intro Disc.............................$18.00
NEC Clip Art 3D.............(MAC)...............$45.00
New Kid On the Block...........................,$45.00
Newsbytes.......................................$93.00
Newsweek........................................$40.00
Night Owl 10....................................(Will Not Sell)
Night Owl Business..............................$35.00
Night Owl 9-7...................................$33.00 each
North American Indians..........................$29.00
NOVA CD Rom for Next Workstation................$31.00
NSM 100 CD Jukebox w/SCSI Interface.............$5750.00
Ocean Life Vol 2....(2 Disks)...................$38.00
Oceans Below....................................$24.00
Officer's Bookcase..............................$34.00
Omar Sharif On Bridge...........................$60.00
Oregon Statutes.................................$150.00
Oregon Trail....................................$50.00
Orient, The.......(MAC).........................$38.00
Original Ware Shareware Library.................$42.00
Our House, Featuring Family Circus..............$56.00
Pacific Islands; Team Yankee II.................$45.00
Parenting.......................................$50.00
PC Game Room....................................$22.00
PC Globe Maps and Facts.........................$42.00
PC Karaoke......................................$79.00
PC Karaokee Elvis...............................$27.00
PC Karaokee OEM.................................$27.00
PC Karaokee Xmas................................$27.00
PC Library......................................$66.00
PC Medic........................................$27.00
PC SIG Games....................................$27.00
PC SIG Library #10..............................$27.00
"             "#11..............................$24.00
"             "#12..............................$29.00
"             "#9...............................$24.00
PC SIG World of Games...........................$23.00
PC SIG  World Of Windows........................$23.00
PC Video Madness................................$35.00
Pediatrics On Disc..............................$110.00
Peter and the Wolf..............................$32.00
Phenthean's Public Domain Library...............$33.00
Phoenix Shareware Library 2.0...................$20.00
Phoenix Shareware Library 3.0...................$27.00
Phone DIS  Reverse (RES. & BUS & GOVT ECT..)....$195.00
Phone Disk For Business 1993....................$67.00
Phone Disk USA  Residential.....................$67.00
Photographics...................................$43.00
Picture Atlas of the World......................$105.00
Pilgrim Quest...................................$99.00
Pinacotheca.....................................$21.00
Pixel Garden....................................$38.00
Pixel Perfect Graphics..........................$24.00
Plant Doctor....................................$32.00
Playing w/Language; English.....................$32.00
"                  "French......................$32.00
"                  "German......................$32.00
"                  "Japanese....................$32.00
"                  "Spanish.....................$32.00
Pop & Politics..................................$35.00
Power Tools For DOS.............................$29.00
Powertalk Multimedia............................$65.00
Precision Mapping...............................$90.00
Prescription Drugs..............................$50.00
Presidents; It all started with George..........$108.00
Private Eye Mysteries...........................$44.00
Programer's ROM.................................$32.00
Project Gutenberg Literature....................$18.00
Pro Phone 2.2 Seven Disk Set....................$110.00
Prophone Business...............................$27.00
Protostar.......................................$61.00
Publique Art....................................$48.00
Publish It......................................$23.00
Publish It for Windows..........................$61.00
Publisher's Paradise............................$32.00
Publishers Powerhouse...........................$25.00
Putt Putt Fun Pack..............................$42.00




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Putt Putt Joins the Parade....................$59.00
Q & A ver 4.0.................................$60.00
QRZ Ham Tadio & Call Book.....................$21.00
Quick Art: Wheeler............................$49.00
Quicktoons....................................$21.00
RBBS in a Box - Red...........................$32.00
Reader's Library..............................$41.00
Reel Clips....................................$31.00
Renaissance Master 1..........................$57.00
Renaissance Master 2..........................$57.00
Return of the Phantom.........................$52.00
Return to the Moon............................$31.00
Return to Zork................................$58.00
Rick Doyle Travel Photography.................$52.00
Roger Ebert's Home Movie Companion............$37.00
ROM Material..................................$18.00
Rom Ware 2....................................$17.00
Rotor-Airball-Time Bandit.....................$28.00
San Diego Zoo Presents; The Animals...........$27.00
San Diego Zoo; The Animals- MAC...............$25.00
Santa Fe Tour.................................$27.00
Sante'........................................$83.00
Scenic Photos.................................$28.00
Schoolware English............................$67.00
Schumacher' Cookbook..........................$35.00
Seals of US Government........................$41.00
Secret of Monkey Island.......................$25.00
Secret Wapons of the Luftwaffe................$26.00
Selectware....................................$14.00
Seventh Guest.................................$63.00
Seventh Guest OEM.............................$30.00
SFX-Sound Effects.............................$47.00
Shakespeare Study Guide.......................$29.00
Shakespeare...................................$20.00
Shareware Avalanche...........................$30.00
Shareware Explosion...........................$26.00
Shareware Express.............................$18.00
Shareware Games..(2500).......................$27.00
Shareware Gold 2..............................$36.00
Shareware Heaven..............................$20.00
Shareware Heaven 2............................$24.00
Shareware Overload............................$15.00
Shareware Solutions...........................$92.00
Shareware Studio Disc.........................$30.00
Shareware Tiger...............................$34.00
Sherlock Consulting Detective.................$24.00
Sherlock Consulting Detective vol II..........$64.00
Sherlock Consulting Detective (MAC)...........$39.00
Sherlock Holmes...............................$20.00
SIGCAT Database for CD's......................$15.00
Significant Series............................$14.00
Simtel 20 DOS Archives........................$20.00
Sleeping Beauty...............................$32.00
So Much Screenware............................$27.00
So Much Shareware LIB #1......................$20.00
So Much Shareware LIB #2......................$21.00
Software Information Database.................$21.00
Software Jukebox..............................$35.00
Software Vault................................$16.00
Software Vault 2..............................$17.00
Software Vault Gold...........................$22.00
Solar Heaven..................................$21.00
Solar System, Our.............................$16.00
Sound Library.................................$21.00
Sound Sensation...............................$16.00
Sound Wav.....................................$32.00
Source Code CD ROM for UNIX & DOS.............$31.00
Space & Astronomy.............................$25.00
Space Adventure...............................$33.00
Space Quest IV Roger Wilco....................$28.00
Space Series-The Shuttle......................$45.00
Spanish Berlitz by Hyperglot.(Delux)..........$150.00
Spanish y Hyperglot...........................$49.00
Speedway CD ROM Speedup (speeds up CD)on disk.$65.00
Spirit of Excalibur...........................$41.00
Sports Best...................................$40.00
Sports Illustrated Almanac....................$25.00
Star Child....................................$32.00
Stellar Seven Game............................$25.00
Straight From Heaven..........................$20.00
Street Maps USA...............................$101.00
Street Atlas USA 2.0 for Windows..............$110.00
Sun Users Group GNU...........................$39.00
Super CD 1 Shareware Library..................$15.00
Super CD 2 Shareware Library..................$15.00
Supertoons....................................$16.00
Survey of Western Art.........................$63.00
Svinga For Mac................................$33.00
Svinga for Windows............................$33.00
Talking Classic Tales.........................$28.00
Talking Jungle Safari.........................$28.00
Talking Schoolhouse...........................$30.00
TAO of Cow....................................$30.00
Technotools...................................$21.00
Terminator 2 Chess Wars.......................$44.00
Terrorist Group Profiles......................$40.00
The Eye of the Beholder Trilogy...............$68.00
The Hound of the Baskervilles.................$68.00
The Mother Of all Clipart.....................$32.00
The Wind in the Willows..(MAC)................$24.00
Time Almanac 93...............................$95.00
Time Almanac 1990 Man of the Decade...........$18.00
Time Almanac 92...............................$91.00
Time Magazine Almanac 91......................$24.00
Time Table of History: Art & Entertain........$32.00
Time Table of History: Business & Polotic.....$32.00
Time Table of History: Science & Inno.........$34.00
Tony Laruso Baseball..........................$66.00
Too Many Typefonts............................$17.00
Toolworks Reference Library Webster...........$23.00

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Subj: Continuation                            Refer: NONE
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Top 2000 Shareware...........................$29.00
Tortoise & the Hare..........................$44.00
Total Baseball...............................$45.00
Total Heart..................................$40.00
Trade Opportunities..........................$48.00
Travel Photography...........................$38.00
Triple Tris Challenge........................$39.00
Twains World.................................$30.00
Tweleve Roads to Gettysburg..................$39.00
Ultima Underworld............................$71.00
Ultimate Shareware Collection................$38.00
Under Sea Adventure..........................$71.00
US Atlas For DOS.............................$29.00
US Atlas for Windows.........................$29.00
US Atlas With Automap........................$27.00
US Civics....................................$30.00
US History...................................$38.00
US Presidents................................$30.00
US State Fact Book...........................$30.00
US Wars: Civil War...........................$30.00
US Wars: Desert Storm w/Coalition Com........$30.00
US Wars: Korea...............................$30.00
US Wars: Vietnam.............................$30.00
US Wars: World War II........................$30.00
USA Today Newspaper the 90's.................$39.00
USA Tour.....................................$41.00
VGA Spectrum.................................$15.00
VGA Spectrum 2...............................$27.00
Victor Vector and Yondo......................$44.00
Victor Vector and Yondo 2....................$44.00
Video Cube...................................$57.00
Vintage Aloha................................$70.00
Vital Signs..................................$70.00
Vocabulearn-Learn French.....................$34.00
Vocabulearn-Learn Spanish....................$34.00
Voyage to the Planet 1-4.....................$63.00 each or all for 240.00
Voyage to the Stars 1-3......................$63.00 each of all for 180.00
Voyager Mapping By GEO Disk..................$140.00
Voyager Space Images 12 disks................$170.00
Washington Times & Insight on News...........$49.00
Whale of a Tale..............................$67.00
What a Lot of Software.......................$17.00
Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego?.......$29.00
White Horse Child............................$32.00
Who Killed Sam Rupert........................$26.00
Wild Places..................................$25.00
Wildcat Gold.................................$27.00
Win Box......................................$35.00
Win Platinum.................................$20.00
Windows Shareware Gold.......................$37.00
Wing Commander II............................$71.00
Wing Commander: With Secret Mission..........$38.00
Wing Commander: With Ultima VI...............$27.00
Winware vol 3................................$28.00
Wizpak.......................................$13.00
Women In Motion..............................$45.00
Women of Venus...............................$32.00
Word Tales...................................$32.00
World & US Atlas for DOS.....................$29.00
"                   "Windows.................$41.00
World Factbook (Quanta Press)................$30.00
World Factbook 1993 (Quanta Press)...........$30.00
World Factbook- Multimedia (Bureau)..........$47.00
World of Flight..............................$42.00
World of Trains..............................$42.00
World Traveller..............................$17.00
World View...................................$27.00
World Vision 3 Disk Set......................$38.00
World Vista..................................$34.00
Wrath of The Demon...........................$28.00
   


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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 11288
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 02/01/94  3:15p
Subj: A.P.L. CD for trade                     Refer: NONE
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 -BC> Who's got an R-rated (no X) Adult CD for trade for this copy of A.P.L.
 -BC> (Adult Picture Library)??  Let me know here or call 615-356-1967...

 -BO> Give us a call, it's in stock as well as about 120 other titles as well.

What's in stock Boris?  I'm wanting to trade my copy of A.P.L. for an R-rated
(no x) Adult CD...  I can always buy one but I wanted to make a trade.  Do you
want to do a trade?  Call me @ 615-356-1967 if so.  Otherwise, not interested.

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From: TONY WHITE                             Number: 11289
  To: RICK SHELTON                             Date: 02/01/94  6:54a
Subj: Busty Babes Vol1 #1                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Rick Shelton keyed in the following blurb to All:

RS> Hello All!

RS> I still have Busty Babes Vol1 #1 for sale, make me an offer.
RS> Cya

You mean an original, right?  Full red label?  $75.  Reply here.

-TWhite

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From: CHRIS LILLY                            Number: 11290
  To: LOUIS SOKOL                              Date: 01/31/94  6:13p
Subj: NEC 3XI Triple Speed                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a USR 16.8 W/fax that I would like to trade for one of your NEC 3XI
Drives.. If intrested call Chris at 1-303-429-9359.. This modem is External and
is a small footprint model..
thx!

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 11291
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 01/31/94  5:53a
Subj: Penthouse Interactive                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We are the US dist. for the mentioned disk. You can order thru us or one of our
dealers.
 
GroupWare
1-206-472-1400
 
PS: International sales of this particular disk done only thru local
distributors. 

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From: EDDIE IMPERIAL                         Number: 11292
  To: MIKE STEFFEN                             Date: 01/31/94  1:47p
Subj: re: CD trade                            Refer: NONE
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MIKE,
  I CALLED UPS AND TOLD THEM TO HOLD THE PACKAGE (WED).
  THEY SAID TO PICK IT UP FRIDAY. WHEN I WENT IN TO PICK IT
  UP THEY SAID IT WOULD BE MONDAY... WENT BACK MONDAY
  AND THEY COULD NOT FIND IT. THEY SENT IT BACK I GUESS.
  TALKED WITH UPS BOSS'S  (JAY & EDDIE) STAFFORD, TX AND
  HE SAID UPS SCREWED UP. AT THAT TIME HE SAID HE WOULD
  MAKE IT UP AT UPS EXPENSE. CALL ME 713-437-0124 OR
  LEAVE YOUR NUMBER IF YOU WANT TO TRY IT AGAIN.


  AS FAR AS SHIPPING GOES -=> Quoting Mike Steffen to Eddie Imperial <=-

 MS> Sent APL CD to the address you had given me, and was returned today! 
 MS> UPS card said Out of Business!?
 MS> Mike

 MS> -!- QScan v1.01b
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From: RICK AURAS                             Number: 11293
  To: ALLEN DIETZ                              Date: 01/30/94 11:32a
Subj: USED CD-ROMS FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Allen Dietz to Rick Auras <=-

 AD> Shakespeare (Complete works, Creative Multimedia Corp.).....$10.00
 
 RA> Alan, can you tell me a little more on this one.  I am very
 AD> interested.
 RA> Is it strictly text (since it is from CMC I thought there may be more
 RA> to it)?  Let me know.  Thanks.  Rick

 AD> Rick, the Shakespeare CD-ROM from Creative Multimedia Corporation
 AD> contains the Complete Works of Shakespeare on one CD-ROM, including
 AD> full text copies of all of his plays, poems, and sonnets.  All text
 AD> on the Shakespeare CD-ROM is available in both American and Queen's
 AD> English.  The disc runs on both MS-DOS and Macintosh computers.

 AD> There may be a few line drawings, but it's primarily a text-based
 AD> CDROM.

 AD> Allen

  Allen, thanks for the info.  I'll pass.  Rick

... Rick Auras, P.O. Box 458821, San Antonio, TX 78280
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From: BRIAN WOODBURY                         Number: 11294
  To: DON KULHA                                Date: 01/31/94  1:16p
Subj: Mac Service Info CD                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 01-26-94 Don Kulha wrote to Mac Owners... 
 
 DK>  Surplus Apple Service Info CD's (Service Source CDROM) Jan 93 edition 
 DK>  
 DK> *** Close-Out Special! *** $13 Including Shipping *** 60 CD's Left *** 
 DK>  
 DK> Contains 75mb of information on servicing Apple products including 
 DK> compact, modular and notebook CPU's, printers, monitors and network 
 DK> products.  
 DK> Price: $18 (Now $13) inc. shipping & handling in the U.S. (1st class) 
  
     Is this something I can load up on my IBM to use for apple reference? 
 
... OFFLINE 1.43 * A freely available QWK reader! 
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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 11295
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94  4:47p
Subj: Bodacious Beauties - New Release        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************** GRAPHICAL IMAGES OF FLORIDA, INC. ****************

                              Presents

************************ BODACIOUS BEAUTIES ***********************

Due to a delay in shipping (bad weather) and customs, this disc will 
be available from your distributor by the second week of Feb., 1994.

            A FULLY COMMERCIAL -- FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC

             More Than 85 Well Known BODACIOUS BEAUTIES
               Over 2,000 Hi-Res GIFs at 1024x768x256
             Over 650 Megabytes (including thumbnails)
                      From Original 35mm Slides
                          New GUI Interface
                      Installs Quickly & Easily
                       Extremely User Friendly
                      Mouse Support & Popup Help
                     Multiple Directory Slide Show

                               RATED - X

*********************** FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!! ********************
********* FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS *********

                     $25.00 for the first node
             $15.00 each additional node (up to five)
             $12.00 each additional node (up to ten)
             $10.00 each additional node thereafter

WE HAVE SET UP BODACIOUS BEAUTIES WITH THE SYSOP IN MIND BY PUTTING
ALL OF THE IMAGES IN A TOTAL OF 9 DIRECTORIES.

USERS UTILIZING THE CD-ILLUSION INTERFACE WILL SEE 46 DIRECTORIES.

***********************************************************************
***********************************************************************
                     STATS for BODACIOUS BEAUTIES
***********************************************************************
***********************************************************************


Directory of BBGIRLS1

BBLEZ1.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF0101.GIF  -  BBFF0117.GIF  Angel Bust & Jaye Milo
BBFF0901.GIF  -  BBFF0909.GIF  Jessica Fox & Veronica Brazil
BBFF1501.GIF  -  BBFF1504.GIF  Skye Blue & Tracy West
BBLEZ2.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF0201.GIF  -  BBFF0212.GIF  Ash Leigh & Bodacious Babbett
BBFF0601.GIF  -  BBFF0610.GIF  Erika Everest & Vicky
BBFF1101.GIF  -  BBFF1108.GIF  Lisa Rae & Saphire
BBLEZ3.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF0301.GIF  -  BBFF0327.GIF  Brandi Myles & Stephanie
BBFF1001.GIF  -  BBFF1013.GIF  Kiss & Nicole
BBLEZ4.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF0401.GIF  -  BBFF0415.GIF  Busty Belle & Kimberly Kupps
BBFF1401.GIF  -  BBFF1415.GIF  Samanth Caine & Trinity Loren
BBLEZ5.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF0501.GIF  -  BBFF0512.GIF  Crystal Storm & Veronica Brazil
BBFF1301.GIF  -  BBFF1316.GIF  Raquel & Stephanie
BBLEZ6.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF0701.GIF  -  BBFF0710.GIF  Honey Hills & Mickey Mounds
BBFF0801.GIF  -  BBFF0820.GIF  Jerica Fox & Jessica Fox
BBLEZ7.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF1201.GIF  -  BBFF1221.GIF  Persia & Toi
BBFF1601.GIF  -  BBFF1608.GIF  Teresa Tease & Toi

      224 file(s)   76746848 bytes

Directory of BBGIRLS2

BBGROUP1.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBGP0101.GIF  -  BBGP0110.GIF  Flame & LuLu Devine & Dick Nasty
BBGP0201.GIF  -  BBGP0208.GIF  Honey Hills & Lynden Johnson & 
                               Mickey Mounds & Veronica Brazil
BBGP0301.GIF  -  BBGP0313.GIF  Kira & Lady Antoinette & Jimmy Zee
BBGP0401.GIF  -  BBGP0408.GIF  Kiss & Shella Stone & Rod
BBGP0501.GIF  -  BBGP0517.GIF  Raquel & Stephanie & Mark
BBCOUPL1.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBMF0101.GIF  -  BBMF0106.GIF  Bambi The Amazon & Rick Masters
BBMF0301.GIF  -  BBMF0315.GIF  Bodacious Babbett & Don
BBMF0401.GIF  -  BBMF0409.GIF  Ellie & Willie
BBCOUPL2.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBMF0201.GIF  -  BBMF0210.GIF  Barbie Brooks & Brad Armstrong
BBMF1301.GIF  -  BBMF1320 GIF  Teresa Tease & Julian St. Jox
BBCOUPL3.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBMF0501.GIF  -  BBMF0519.GIF  Kimberly Kupps & Chris
BBMF0901.GIF  -  BBMF0914.GIF  Olivia & David
BBMF1201.GIF  -  BBMF1219.GIF  Taylor Wayne & Derrick
BBCOUPL4.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBMF0601.GIF  -  BBMF0614.GIF  Lady Dee & Opu
BBMF0701.GIF  -  BBMF0714.GIF  Leanna Lovelace & Eric
BBMF0801.GIF  -  BBMF0814.GIF  LuLu Devine & Dick Nasty
BBCOUPL5.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBMF1001.GIF  -  BBMF1010.GIF  Sherry & Jimmy Zee
BBMF1101.GIF  -  BBMF1120.GIF  Tammy Monroe & Rick Masters

      246 file(s)   79121133 bytes

Directory of BBGIRLS3

BBGRLS01.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
ALYSSA01.GIF  -  ALYSSA20.GIF  Alyssa Alps
DREAM01.GIF   -  DREAM06.GIF   Justa Dream
LYNDEN01.GIF  -  LYNDEN15.GIF  Lynden Johnson
MOUNDS01.GIF  -  MOUNDS15.GIF  Mickey Mounds
BBGRLS02.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
ANGEL01.GIF   -  ANGEL06.GIF   Angel
EUROPE01.GIF  -  EUROPE07.GIF  Europe Dichan
TEEZE01.GIF   -  TEEZE43.GIF   Traci Teeze
BBGRLS03.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
ANGELA01.GIF  -  ANGELA23.GIF  Angela Summers
CHELLE01.GIF  -  CHELLE19.GIF  Chelle Marie
BBGRLS04.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
APPLES01.GIF  -  APPLES26.GIF  Candee Apples
KISS01.GIF    -  KISS16.GIF    Kiss
BBGRLS05.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BABETT01.GIF  -  BABETT31.GIF  Bodacious Babbett
TOI01.GIF     -  TOI11.GIF     Toi

      243 file(s)   73408472 bytes

Directory of BBGIRLS4

BBGRLS06.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BAMBI01.GIF   -  BAMBI17.GIF   Bambi The Amazon
CIERA01.GIF   -  CIERA06.GIF   Ciera Knight
COTTON01.GIF  -  COTTON19.GIF  Cotton Candy
BBGRLS07.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BO01.GIF      -  BO26.GIF      Bo-Daeshus
DOLLY01.GIF   -  DOLLY15.GIF   Dolly Dreams
BBGRLS08.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BRANDY01.GIF  -  BRANDY17.GIF  Brandy Baby
FIELDS01.GIF  -  FIELDS38.GIF  Valerie Fields
BBGRLS09.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BRITNY01.GIF  -  BRITNY34.GIF  Busty Brittany
JERICA01.GIF  -  JERICA08.GIF  Jerica Fox
BBGRLS10.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BUST01.GIF    -  BUST09.GIF    Angel Bust
JAMES01.GIF   -  JAMES62.GIF   Jesse James

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Directory of BBGIRLS5

BBGRLS11.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
DANNI01.GIF   -  DANNI20.GIF   Danni Ashe
LOREN01.GIF   -  LOREN14.GIF   Trinity Loren
MADISON1.GIF  -  MADISON5.GIF  Madison
BBGRLS12.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
DEEDEE01.GIF  -  DEEDEE05.GIF  Dee Dee
TOPPS01.GIF   -  TOPPS25.GIF   Crystal Topps
BBGRLS13.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
DIONNA01.GIF  -  DIONNA32.GIF  Dionna Starr
MOONS01.GIF   -  MOONS16.GIF   Honey Moons
NATALIE1.GIF  -  NATALIE8.GIF  Natalie
BBGRLS14.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
DIOR01.GIF    -  DIOR17.GIF    Kristin Dior
JUGGS01.GIF   -  JUGGS38.GIF   Jessica Juggs
BBGRLS15.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
ERIKA01.GIF   -  ERIKA32.GIF   Erika Everest
RENEE01.GIF   -  RENEE09.GIF   Renee Flaming

      226 file(s)   66984478 bytes

Directory of BBGIRLS6

BBGRLS16.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
FLUFFY01.GIF  -  FLUFFY17.GIF  Fluffy Pillows
LISA01.GIF    -  LISA39.GIF    Lisa Chest
BBGRLS17.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
HONEY01.GIF   -  HONEY35.GIF   Honey Hills
STACEY01.GIF  -  STACEY06.GIF  Stacey
BBGRLS18.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
JASMINE1.GIF  -  JASMINE9.GIF  Jasmine
MONROE01.GIF  -  MONROE19.GIF  Maxine Monroe
OLIVIA01.GIF  -  OLIVIA14.GIF  Olivia
BBGRLS19.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
KEISHA01.GIF  -  KEISHA36.GIF  Keisha
SUZIE01.GIF   -  SUZIE20.GIF   Suzie Boobies
BBGRLS20.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
KUPPS01.GIF   -  KUPPS12.GIF   Kimberly Kupps
PATIYA01.GIF  -  PATIYA17.GIF  Princess Pattiya

      229 file(s)   65642363 bytes

Directory of BBGIRLS7

BBGRLS21.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
LOVE01.GIF    -  LOVE12.GIF    Alexis Love
PLENTY01.GIF  -  PLENTY16.GIF  Patty Plenty
VULVA01.GIF   -  VULVA14.GIF   Explicit Closeups
BBGRLS22.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
LULU01.GIF    -  LULU35.GIF    LuLu Devine
MONTANA1.GIF  -  MONTANA6.GIF  Montana
MOORE01.GIF   -  MOORE15.GIF   Chessie Moore
BBGRLS23.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
MYLES01.GIF   -  MYLES13.GIF   Brandi Myles
TOWERS01.GIF  -  TOWERS43.GIF  Tabatha Towers
BBGRLS24.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
RAE01.GIF     -  RAE27.GIF     Lisa Rae
ZORYNA01.GIF  -  ZORYNA29.GIF  Zoryna Dreams

      214 file(s)   60367065 bytes

Directory of BBGIRLS8

CANDY.GIF     -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
CANDY01.GIF   -  CANDY55.GIF   Candy Cantelopes
HEATHER.GIF   -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
HEATHR01.GIF  -  HEATHR30.GIF  Heather Hooters
PARIS.GIF     -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
PARIS01.GIF   -  PARIS52.GIF   Chrissy Paris
WENDY.GIF     -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
WENDY01.GIF   -  WENDY52.GIF   Wendy Whoppers

      193 file(s)   57080416 bytes

Directory of BBGIRLS9

DIXIE.GIF     -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
DIXIE00.GIF   -  DIXIE54.GIF   Dixie Bubbles (Back Covergirl)
KELLY1.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
KELLY00.GIF   -  KELLY41.GIF   Dakota Kelly (Inside Front Covergirl)
KELLY2.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
KELLY42.GIF   -  KELLY71.GIF   Dakota Kelly (Inside Front Covergirl)
STORM1.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
STORM000.GIF  -  STORM055.GIF  Crystal Storm (Front Covergirl)
STORM2.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
STORM056.GIF  -  STORM107.GIF  Crystal Storm (Front Covergirl)

      240 file(s)   75321620 bytes

***********************************************************************
                     TOTALS for BODACIOUS BEAUTIES
***********************************************************************

Total GIF files listed:               2071 file(s)  630769139 bytes
Total Thumbnail CVI files:              46 file(s)   36215616 bytes
Total MAP files:                        46 file(s)     856428 bytes
Total FILES.BBS files:                   9 file(s)      70493 bytes
Total files in ILLUSION directory:      43 file(s)    6982582 bytes
Total files in VPIC directory:          64 file(s)     393325 bytes
INSTALL.BAT                              1 file(s)         97 bytes

TOTAL FILES ON BODACIOUS BEAUTIES:    2280 file(s)  675287680 bytes
*******************************************************************
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3.)     Click mouse or press enter on an image on the thumbnail
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4.)     Copy single or multiple images from thumbnail image page
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5.)     Slideshow the images from a single or multiple directories
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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 11297
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94  4:47p
Subj: Bodacious Beauties - New Release        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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        a. The filename of the current GIF highlighted.
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        c. The directory the current GIF highlighted resides in.
        d. Whether you are in the SINGLE or TAG image mode.
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           in the directory and the number of GIFs tagged.
        f. On screen REAL TIME digital clock which displays the
           hour, minutes, and seconds.

12.)    The current thumbnail is highlighted with a red box, the
        tagged thumbnails are highlighted with a white box.

13.)    CD-ILLUSION provides a QUICK HELP reference by clicking
        your mouse on the HELP button or by pressing <F8> and
        provides a DETAILED HELP reference by clicking your mouse
        on the SETUP button or by pressing <F9> and choosing
        HELP from the setup menu.

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From: JUDSON KILLIAN                         Number: 11298
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/26/94  5:33a
Subj: !FREE CD CATALOG!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send me one of your CD-Rom catalogs.
                                Thanx.
                                    Judson Killian II
                                    3631 Callaghan #533
                                    San Antonio, Tx 78228

... Knock softly, but firmly.  I like soft, firm knockers.
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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 11299
  To: RICHARD KELLER                           Date: 01/31/94 12:36p
Subj: Re: JFK CDROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks, I'll check with Egghead.

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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 11300
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/31/94 12:38p
Subj: Re: JFK CDROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks, If you get further information on the JFK Assassination Encyclopedia
please post.

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From: MATTHEW LYNCH                          Number: 11301
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/01/94  5:25p
Subj: OS/2 2.1 CD-ROM                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

Does anyone have an OS/2 2.1 (with Presentation Manager and like
SCSI/VGA/CD-ROM and Sound Card drivers) CD-ROM they'd be willing to part with?
I'd like an unregistered one if it's at all possible....  Thanks.

BTW, You, who sold me BattleChess:  Didja get your check yet?  I love the
game..


-=[Matthew]=-  (The X Frontiers)

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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 11302
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 02/01/94  7:44a
Subj: CD ROM FOR TRADE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

probably similar to the one you have for sale.

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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 11303
  To: HANS FELSH                               Date: 02/01/94  1:40p
Subj: misc for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hans - interested in the compaq vga monitor.  How much for it?  Does it have
the standard D15 connector?  Jerry

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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 11304
  To: MICHAEL HAIP                             Date: 01/31/94 10:59a
Subj: Re: Adult CD-ROMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please leave me a telephone number where you can be reached, or call me
at (915)673-1911.  Sometime mail on the nets reaches me very slowly.

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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 11305
  To: PETE COLLINS                             Date: 01/31/94 11:00a
Subj: Re: Adult CD-ROMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Just give me a call at (915)673-1911 and we will discuss the particular
CD-ROM you have to trade in.  I'm here from 9:00am - 9:00pm daily.  thanks
for you interest.
Dennis

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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 11306
  To: GREG MUNDA                               Date: 01/31/94 11:02a
Subj: Re: Penthouse CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the penthouse interactive CD for sale.  It is one of the more
expensive titles, but it's awesome..  I will sell it for $81.00.
Give my company a call at (915)673-1911 if you would like to order this
title.   The mailing information is as follows.
 
Digital Broadcast Video
3318 South 7th Street
Abilene, TX 79605
(915)673-1911 voice (915)673-8173 BBS 14.4

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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 11307
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94 11:09a
Subj: Adult CD-ROMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                             Digital Broadcast Video
*                              3318 South 7th Street
*                                Abilene, TX 79605
*
*       VOICE: (915)673-1911  FAX: (915)673-8173  BBS: (915)673-8181
*
*   ****************** Adult CD-ROM Titles ****************************
*--------------------------------------------------------------------------
*Respond ASAP to purchase X rated CD's before they are all gone.  These are
*maybe some of the last X rated CD-ROMS available and will not be reproduced.
*---------------------------------------------------------------------------
*Wicked Kodak Photo CD        64.95    Storm III                     38.95
*Digital Dancing CD-ROM       48.00    Dirty Talk 1 CD-ROM           58.95
*Seymore Butts Interactive    54.95    RIMFIRE PACIFIC               48.95
*Night Trips                  54.95    Animated Fantasies (I)        48.95
*House of Dreams              54.95    Animated Fantasies (II)       48.95
*Legends of Porn II           42.00    Tropical Girls                32.95
*New Wave Hookers             39.95    Visual Fantasies              28.95
*Extreme Delight              32.50    Nightwatch Interactive        58.95
*Manpower                     32.50    Things Change 1st Time        54.95
*Deep Throat                  64.95    All Beauties                  32.50
*Mystic of Orient             38.95    Southern Beauties             38.95
*After Dark Trilogy           72.00    T&A 2 the Maxx                18.95
*Paradise Club                64.95    Porkware II                   51.00
*Super Smutware               29.95    Doors of Passion              51.00
*LA Strippers                 45.00    PGG I                         36.95
*Sinfully Yours CDR!          32.50    Digital Seduction CDR!        32.50
*Private Pictures I           44.00    California Daydreamer CDR!    32.50
*Busty Babes Vol. 2           38.95    Lovely Ladies II              51.00
*Betrayal QTIME (MAC)         56.00    FAO VOL 1                     27.50
*Cat & Mouse CDR              56.00    FAO VOL 2                     27.50
*Wicked QTIME Movie CDR       56.00    FAO VOL 3                     27.50
*Scissors Stones              61.00    Physical Therapy              27.50
*Northern Delights CDR!       32.00    Extreme Delight - Dirty Talk  48.95
*Volcano CD-ROM               68.50    Moving Fantasies              41.00
*Racquel Released CDR!        38.95    Storm II                      32.00
*Flame CDR                    32.50    Smutware                      27.50
*Swimware 1993                41.00    FAO Gold I Disk CD-ROM        41.00
*Asian Ladies                 44.50    Bustin' Out                   42.00
*Giffy Gold                   43.50    Tranz                         34.00
*Adult REFER Library          32.00    College Girls                 42.00
*101 SEX POSITIONS PT 1       42.50    CONDO CUTIES                  44.50
*101 SEX POSITIONS PT 2       42.50    Digital Dreams                27.00
*KAMA SUTRA                   41.00    KING DONG                     52.00
*Best of Vivid                42.50    Phone Sex                     18.95
*Girls of Vivid Vol 1         36.00    Girls of Mardi Gras           44.50
*Girls of Vivid Vol 2         36.00    Princess of Persia            44.50
*Secrets                      46.00    Cyborgasm                     22.50
*Hidden Obsessions (Inter)    54.50    Amateur Models                22.50
*Busty Babes Vol 1            42.00    Hot Pics 3                    22.50
*Devil in Mrs. Jones (Movie)  42.00    Hot Pics 4                    22.50
*A.P.L. Volume 1              22.50    Dream Girl                    41.00
*Wicked Whispers              41.00    Sexiest Women on CD           28.95
*Women Who Love Men           32.00    Digital Dreams II             31.00
*Girls, Girls, Girls          32.00    Adult Movie Almanac (Inter)   82.00*
*Weekend at Ernies            31.00    Dream Machine (NEW) (Inter)   54.95
*Camp Double Do               31.00    Sorority House (NEW)          54.95
*Creme De La Creme            31.00    Bangkok II                    48.95
*Expose                       31.00    Penthouse Interactive         81.00
*Amorous Asian Girls          41.00    Assets                        30.00
*Sweet Dreams                 32.50    Dividends                     30.00
*Debbie Does Dallas           42.00    Commodities                   30.00
*Girls of Risque              26.95
* 
*You must be 18 years of age or older to order any of the above titles.
*Terms are as follows, we accept VISA, Mastercard, Money Order, and COD.
*Add $3.00 Shipping per item, add addition $6.00 for COD Charges.
*Phone Lines Open 7-days a week 9am - 9pm CST.   If residing in Texas be
*sure to include 8.25% sales tax.   Make all checks and money orders
*payable to Digital Broadcast Video.
* 
*P.S. We will also give you a trade in discount on used Adult CD-ROMS, or
*     we will purchase your used Adult CD-ROMS.

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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 11308
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94 11:10a
Subj: Hot New Game Titles                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                             Digital Broadcast Video
*                              3318 South 7th Street
*                                Abilene, TX 79605
*
*    VOICE: (915)673-1911 BBS: (915)673-8173 14.4 BBS: (915)673-8181
*
*****************************Software Titles ****************************
*
*Wing Commander - Privater   3.5" Disk......................... $ 48.50
*Wing Commander - Privater Speech Pack.........................   19.95
*X-Wing REBEL ASSAULT CD-ROM...................................   48.50 
*Dr. Games  CD-ROM  BBS Ready Loaded with all types of PD Games   
****Special Purchase***                                           16.95
*
*
*Many other titles available, call for pricing......
*
*
*Terms are as follows, we accept VISA, Mastercard, Money Order, and COD.
*add additional $5.00 for COD Charges.
*
*Phone Lines Open 7-days a week 9am - 9pm CST.   If residing in Texas be
*sure to include 8.25% sales tax.   Make all checks and money orders
*payable to Digital Broadcast Video.
* 
*P.S. We will also give you a trade in discount on used CD-ROMS, or
*     we will purchase your used CD-ROMS.

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 11309
  To: ROGER DAVIS                              Date: 02/01/94 12:26a
Subj: CDs to SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RD>Will swap the Battle Chess for ARL. Will cross-ship.

Roger, my wife bought Battle Chess without my knowing, so I am sorry but
cannot trade now.  Do not send it.

Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 11310
  To: ANGELLO HUONG                            Date: 02/01/94 12:27a
Subj: Cd Trade?                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AH>RN>return #3 to you, send #2 to me.  Thanks

AH>back as someone has already mentioned buying it from me.

It is on its way back to ya.

Randy


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From: JAMES CLEVENGER                        Number: 11311
  To: STEVE KENNEDY                            Date: 01/31/94  4:48p
Subj: Re: 3DO?                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Re: Software selling machines.
 
I agree, and it is actually very appropriate, since what good is a computer
that has no software?
 
Regarding CPU Bach, I really think that a title of this quality will be ported
over to the other CD-ROM based platforms.  So, don't worry if the 3D0 doesn't
make it as a market success - today we see a big demand for good software that
drives the developers to routinely make multi-platform versions.  This trend is
expected to increase during the 90s.


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From: BRIAN KELLER                           Number: 11312
  To: TIM SHEEHAN                              Date: 01/28/94  8:33p
Subj: Re: WING COMMANDER 2                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have alot of sierra games but would like to sell it because
i have almost every other game out. talk to you later bye.

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From: BRIAN KELLER                           Number: 11313
  To: CHIP SLATE                               Date: 01/28/94  8:35p
Subj: Re: WING COMMANDER 2                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Im more interested in selling i have lots of games you probally
have bye.

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From: BRIAN KELLER                           Number: 11314
  To: LOUIS DIGGS                              Date: 01/28/94  8:36p
Subj: GAMES FOR SALE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry but ibm cd-rom games are for ibm only :( 

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From: BRIAN KELLER                           Number: 11315
  To: JOSE VISBAL                              Date: 01/28/94  8:36p
Subj: Re: GAMES FOR SALE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Its practically brand new only taken out off the case 4 times
has every thing even the registration card. would have to
sell it for $24.00 because several other people are intiresed.

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From: SEAN SEELY                             Number: 11316
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/29/94 11:06a
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
JR>>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
JR>>If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
JR>>CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)44k
JR>>DESCRIPT FREQ: descript.zip   (about 800 cd-rom disc descriptions)70k
JR>>        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
JR>>    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
JR>>Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
JR>>P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
JR>>Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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(1:157/479)
 SS>  Please send me a catalog at:
 SS>         Sean Seely
 SS>         Sean's Message Board
 SS>         15 Arbor Rd
 SS>         Holbrook, MA 02343
 SS>                                         Thanks,
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Sean Seely

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From: SCOTT SCHAECHER                        Number: 11317
  To: TONY WHITE                               Date: 01/30/94  4:12p
Subj: Dead CD-ROMs                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I saw your message About CD-ROMS for sale. Do you have any left? What's
wrong with them? Are they all $25?
   Please leave me a message, I'm in great need of a CD-Rom for a BBS!

Thanks,
Scott Schaecher


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From: SCOTT SCHAECHER                        Number: 11318
  To: MARK KITCHEN                             Date: 01/30/94  4:14p
Subj: Cdrom For sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you still have that CD-Rom?
If so, PLEASE let me know, I'm in great need of one for a BBS!
Thanks,
Scott Schaecher


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From: SCOTT SCHAECHER                        Number: 11319
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/30/94  4:30p
Subj: Need CD-Rom                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   I desperately need a CD-Rom. If anyone has one used-for a good price
(under $80), please let me know!!


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From: LEE GILLAN                             Number: 11320
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 02/01/94  6:56p
Subj: Re: Canadian Cd Catalogue               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 

 HB>If you would like a copy of our "Electronic Catalogue" please feel free
 HB>to request it here, or by phone or fax at (905) 830-1615.
 
 Could you please forward a copy of your "Electronic Catalogue" to me at 
 the following address when you get a chance... thanks in advance.....


 Mr. Lee Gillan
 RR#2
 Gravenhurst, Ont.
 P1P 1R2

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From: GARY ZIZKA                             Number: 11321
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/23/94  5:29p
Subj: !free cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like a copy of that Free CD-catalog:

Send to Gary B. Zizka,Sr.
        10291 Wellinton Rd.
        Streetsboro, Ohio 44241

Thanks


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From: SEAN CREIGH                            Number: 11322
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94  7:15p
Subj: Liesure Suit Larry 6                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone know if Liesure Suit Larry is available on CD yet?
                            Larry 6 that is.
                Sean

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From: JON SIROIS                             Number: 11323
  To: DAVID RYDER                              Date: 01/31/94  7:52p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can you send me a catalog also Dave


        9609 White Hill Ct.
        Ft. Wayne, In $6804

Thanxs
/s

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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 11324
  To: STEVE PESANT                             Date: 01/31/94  7:34a
Subj: SUGGESTION                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Steve; Take a look at 9000 sounds (I think it's sounds) 500 megs of midi (over
1000) WRK CMF ROL and Util's This is the best I've yet seen out of say 5 CD's
on the market. If your into Piano Paul Mace has around a meg of nice songs.
There are also demo's Cake and others. 

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From: NINO FAGAN                             Number: 11325
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 01/31/94  6:36a
Subj: Top Drawer Stats      1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JL>Top Drawer will be released any day now for a mere $19.00.

JL>There are 199 files dated from 1-1-94 through 1-16-94 for a total
JL>of 49,669,386 bytes!

Thanks for the comprehensive report Jim.  I only wish there were a
program that could go into each archive and find the least dated .EXE
or .COM file.  I'll bet of the 199 files above most are updated (and
I do mean dated) .DOC file or an added .DOC file with the latter date.

I do think I'll get that one though, with so many OS/2 files at 20
bucks, good deal.

Regards, 
Nino
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From: NINO FAGAN                             Number: 11326
  To: LONNIE WILKERSON                         Date: 01/31/94  6:38a
Subj: -=19$ROM=-                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LW>14717  01-28-9422:54ALL                      4717  01-28-9422:54ALL
LW>         4717                                 OM you have to date!

LW>This ROM iet a ROM online?   This  is  the
LW>answer   you  have  been  waiting  for,  affordable  files  at  this

Looks pretty Lonnie, but right justified text is awfully hard to read.

Regards, 
Nino
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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 11327
  To: LAYN HUFFMAN                             Date: 02/01/94 12:25a
Subj: cd trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LH>Yea Greg, How bout a trade for Ecstasy Hot Pics!

LH>Layn Huffman

LH> * 1st 1.11 #3324 * I'm much too young to feel this damned old

Layn,
Sorry made another trade.  Thanks anyway.
Greg

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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 11328
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 02/01/94 12:27a
Subj: cd trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Shane,
Had car trouble. Dead battery.  Will mail AF on Tuesday if I have to walk to
the post office.
Sorry for the delay.
Greg

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 11329
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 02/01/94  1:48a
Subj: cd trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GS>Shane,
GS>Had car trouble. Dead battery.  Will mail AF on Tuesday if I have to walk
GS>to the post office.

Well...  Actually,  I was had prepared a message to upload to you.  I
got stuck in Organic Structures lab (BTW, I'm a college student) and the
post office was closed by the time I got out.  But I have a two hour
lunch break tomorrow, and the CD is packed-up and ready to go. Soooo, NO
PROBLEM!

GS>Sorry for the delay.
                        Same Here  :-)

 þ SLMR 2.1a þ 

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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 11330
  To: STEVE KRAISLER                           Date: 02/01/94  4:01p
Subj: world and us atlas                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SK>I have BOTH the newest versions of Software Toolworks World Atlas
SK>and US ATlas (version 4.0 ).  They are the windows cd's (MPC)
SK>versions with loads of real time video "flybys"  I'll sell both
SK>for 30 bucks or 17 each.  You pay shipping.


Steve,
I'll take the U.S. Atlas for $17 + shipping.  Where do I send the money order? 
Please let me know and that you'll hold it for me.
Greg

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From:                                        Number: 11331
  To:                                          Date: 02/02/94 12:39a
Subj:                                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 11332
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/30/94 12:43p
Subj: Macintosh Shareware.                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MS>Otherware has FILES.BBS, although some of the descriptions only show the
MS>program name, while others go into more detail.  It and Garbo are standard
MS>9660, while Mac Shareware can only be read on an Apple system 300 drive.

I have Otherware and consider it to be useless. I may call you about
Garbo.

MS>Haven't heard from you lately.  I'll bet you've been putting in long, hard
MS>hours filming those scantily-clad young women again, right?  Man, you'd
MS>better be careful, I doubt your old ticker can take much more of that
MS>stuff.  <gd&r>

Yep. I've been up to my ears in getting the new game finished. I have
one last shoot to do (Feb 13th) with five lovely ladies who want to take
their clothes off to make computing history. Some folks who've previewed
the game say it's the most amazing illusion in digital video. Some of
Apple's QT developers wanted to know how we did a couple of the tricks.

We're working on the definitive use for your cdrom drive while you're
not actively using it. It's a series of screen savers (adult) that will
knock your socks off. For example, screen gets cleared, young blonde
walks out from the right side of your monitor, walks to the middle of
the screen, undresses, and walks off to the left carrying her clothes. A
moment later, she pokes her head around from the left side and says "Are
you coming?" The cute trick is that it's full screen at 15cps. Killer,
right?

Currently, it's Mac only. We were converting to Photomotion for the PC
(Video on DOS) when IBM pulled the plug on Photomotion. <sigh>...
Msoft wants you to do Windoze and IBM wants you to do OS/2 PM. Am I the
only one who thinks DOS VESA video is the way to go?


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From: NOAH DARBY                             Number: 11333
  To: SCOTT CARTIER                            Date: 02/01/94 12:08a
Subj: Re: CD MUSIC FILES (.MOD)               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Scott Cartier to All on 01-27-94  15:21 <=-
 -=> Subject: CD MUSIC FILES (.MOD) <=-

 SC> Hello,

 SC> I was wondering if anyone knew of any CD's out there with alot
 SC> of .MOD sound files. I have seen some with a smattering of them in the
 SC> sound directory but are mostly shareware programs. If anyone knows of
 SC> a good offering of sound files on a CD, please let me know it's name
 SC> and if possible the typical price. Thanks.
 SC> -!- FidoPCB v1.3 [NR]
 SC>  ! Origin: The MBT * Blacksburg, VA * (703) 552-8767 * (1:2602/121)

I am also a MOD nut, I would like to see a CD-ROM nothing but MOD and
MOD utilities.  I have some MOD stuff from SO MUCH SHAREWARE disk but it's
old stuff now.  If you have any information to where I can get CD-ROM
full of MOD stuff let me know.

Later... >>N<<




... "Transporter chief Cartier, beam the landing party to the bridge"
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From: NOAH DARBY                             Number: 11334
  To: J. ALLEN                                 Date: 02/01/94 12:23a
Subj: Re: Rules, etc.                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting J. Allen to Tom Huber on 01-28-94  17:01 <=-
 -=> Subject: Re: Rules, etc. <=-

 TH> I am in the process of bringing my bbs on-line. I don't remember seeing
 TH> rules or a moderator declaring him/herself. Who is the moderator, what
 TH> are the rules, and, considering the amount of "adult" nature material
 TH> discussed, this echo appears best limited to "mature" users. Right?
 TH>
 TH> Thanks,
 TH> Tom
 TH> Star Spawn BBS

 JA> There are no rules here....Venders are allowed to post bogus
 JA> competitor's pricing....Vendors aren't required to honor any "we'll
 JA> beat any price" claims made here....Vendors are allow to post phony
 JA> virus claims or start  bogus virus rumors against competing CD-ROM
 JA> disks.....Vendors are allowed (required???) to flame other
 JA> Vendors.....Vendors are allowed to judicate their claims and
 JA> litigations here...."R" CD-ROM disk producers are allowed to threaten
 JA> and intimidate (FBI bust, etc.) "X" CD-ROM disk producers....... Just
 JA> label this echo "CD-ROM FORSALE -- ANYTHING GOES" for your users and
 JA> you should be OK.
 JA> -!- Renegade v07-17 Beta
 JA>  ! Origin: V.32bis/HST (1:2201/13)

Do I hear the sense of sarcasm in this post?  If not then I really like this
place. :)

Later... >>N<<


... Go straight to the docs.  Do not pass GO.  Do not collect $200!
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From: ANDY BRICK                             Number: 11335
  To: RICHARD PEEK                             Date: 02/02/94 10:18p
Subj: Trade                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I received the CD in the mail on 02-01-94. Due to an upcoming Exam, The Fate of
Atlantis won't be in the mail until 02-03-94. Thanks for the trade and your
patience. TTYL Andy

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From: DAN PROCIV                             Number: 11336
  To: DEAN PEECH                               Date: 02/02/94  1:27a
Subj: Phonebook Cd                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dean,

I believe it only encompasses U.S. listings. If you wish to order, there
are several way for you to do so:
1) Call (503)236-4969 voice and phone in your order with credit card
   payment.
2) Fax your order to (503)236-4969. Include credit card information.
3) Call the CDrom Support BBS and order Online on either of the 14.4
   Order lines:  (503)236-0269 or (503)236-3266
4) Mail an order with check, cashiers check or money order to us at:
   The CD-Machine
   P.O. Box 13304
   Portland, Oregon
   97213-0304

Hope this helps Dean.


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From: DON CROUCHER                           Number: 11337
  To: LOUIS SOKOL                              Date: 02/02/94  9:10a
Subj: NEC 3XI Triple Speed                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I have the NEC 3Xi triple speed CD drives (bare) for $449
 > while my present supply lasts.  Add $10 for shipping = total
 > of $459.00
 > (If this shipped to a Texas address, the total including
 > sales tax will be $494.58)  Checks and money orders accepted. 

 > JET Computer Services, 713/265-1010 voice
I have a MXT540A - Nearly New 544MB IDE 8.5ms 6300RPM IDE HDD I'm looking to
trade for NEC3Xi CDR drive. Call me if interested 214.212.4294 Thank you, Don
C.
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From: TONY WHITE                             Number: 11338
  To: SCOTT SCHAECHER                          Date: 02/02/94  9:18a
Subj: Dead CD-ROMs                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Scott Schaecher keyed in the following blurb to Tony White:

SS> I saw your message About CD-ROMS for sale. Do you have any
SS> left? What's wrong with them? Are they all $25?

What they are is all gone.  :-)

-TWhite

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From: ANDREW BLESSING                        Number: 11339
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/31/94 11:37p
Subj: !FREE CD CATALOG!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Joe please send me a copy of that new catalogue.  I need more CD's!!!
Send it to
        Andrew Blessing
        1970 Mass. Ave.
        Lexington MA 02173

                                Thanks Abunch!

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From: T. CURTIS                              Number: 11340
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/01/94  9:30p
Subj: NEW LOWER CD PRICES! pt 1               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hello Mike!

21 Jan 94, Mike Shannon writes to All:

 MS> 7th Guest OEM (In stock!).....39.00

     What is different between this and the original 7th Guest?
  Thanks!

T.

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From: WILLIAM ENG                            Number: 11341
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/30/94 10:01a
Subj: WANTED: CD ROM PLAYER                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking to buy my first CD ROM player for my IBM pc. Can be internal or
external. Will look at used and slow players also. Can pay cash or
combination of cash and SIMM memory chips. Leave me e-mail here or call me
voice line at 312-663-9339. Thanks much.
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From: BOB BAKER                              Number: 11342
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/30/94  4:14p
Subj: cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Would anyone be interested in buying my unused cd of Aldus PhotoStyler? Comes
with all documentation, cd, and registration. I got it with my cd-rom drive
that I just bought, and I don't plan on ever using it.

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From: JOHN VAN HARE                          Number: 11343
  To: ROGER DAVIS                              Date: 01/30/94  6:22p
Subj: Re CDs                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RD> XXX Extreme
Would you want to sell this, I loaned mine to a friend, and don't think he 
wants to give it up <grin>. 

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From: BOB KELLY                              Number: 11344
  To: JIMMY SOYSAL                             Date: 02/02/94  6:29p
Subj: bbs                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message originally to Dave, Jimmy Soysal stated:
JS> Nice bbs like it a lot how can you get more access?

Err... Well, this is Portsmouth, Virginia responding. Did you know you posted
a local question like that in a national echo that goes EVERYWHERE in the
country?

Guess not...

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From: DONOVAN HATLEBERG                      Number: 11345
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/01/94  3:37p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a Software Toolworks Encyclopedia CD for sale or trade. I am also
looking for a BB1 #1 cd.                 Donovan

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From: GLYNN LITTLETON                        Number: 11346
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/02/94  9:17a
Subj: Tweaking Tame                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* Written in: OS2DOSBBS
Having problems with 100% cpu usage even with TAME/OS2SPEED.  If I load
tame with only the /I switch, then the 100% usage is corrected but the
bbs runs too slow (ie, screen writes).  The only additional switch that
seems to match the normal speed is 1 but then I get 100% cpu usage
again when bbs is waiting for a call.  I've also tried adding OS2Speed
with no help.

What am I doing wrong?  Running OS/2 2.1 on a 486 with 16megs ram;
bbs sw is FD 2.20/RoboFX as a two node system.

Thanks, Glynn

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 11347
  To: NAEEM SHAIKH                             Date: 02/02/94 11:07a
Subj: * CD-ROM Disks for SALE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NS>GE>CD-ROMS for Sale

NS>GE>Chessmaster 3000 ...............................  $22

NS>Give ME!! :)

   Does that mean that you want to buy it?

   If so let me know here so that I can mark it with your name.
   Then send $24.90 including shipping to me at the address below.
   Be sure to include your address and a copy of this note.


Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
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From: TOM KELLY                              Number: 11348
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 02/01/94 10:32p
Subj: YOUR ANNOYING                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting David Vangelder to Lee Noga <=-

 DV> This is the last post that I will write to you directly. I am too busy
 DV> trying to produce the best quality discs that we can. So, please
 DV> respond  to this post, have the last word AND Have A Great Day!


Hooray!!!
 
... ebius tagline. This is a moebius tagline. This is a mo ...
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From: JOHN COOK                              Number: 11349
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/02/94  9:26a
Subj: Adult CD-ROM (SIZZLE)                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SIZZLE...PG-18 (my rating) collection of glamour model portfolios.

Contains about 500 .BMP (not GIF) images in high-resolution format.
Self running with Sound Blaster soundtrack. Also viewable with any
viewer that handles .BMP images. All are suitable for use as screen-
savers or wallpaper under Windows. Full viewer system included that
displays the entire collection in random order.

I bought this to offer on my BBS, but it is really more (un)suited
(pun) for use in the interactive mode. Some images are definately
studio poses, while others are semi-nude ones in more relaxed sur-
roundings. NO HARDCORE images!  Also has a preview mode that shows
the scan in a thumb-nail portfolio.

$25 includes shipping. Trades considered for a disc more suited for
                       an adult BBS. Will swap for any Busty Babes,
                       any FAO, or other BBS ready disc. What have
                       you to offer?

... OB\GYN..A spreader of old wives' tales.
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From: JOHN COOK                              Number: 11350
  To: HAROLD HAYES                             Date: 02/02/94 11:00a
Subj: Re: Adult CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Harold Hayes to All <=-



 HH> Shots probably taken by husband/boyfriend/friend/self.
 HH> Pics to compare....AA_?????, Gabbys BBS AdBoard pics, ETC...

 I have SIZZLE..a collection of 19 models with about 30 poses of
 each lady. Mostly studio work with some in home surroundings.
 ALL are in .BMP format, suitable for Windows screensavers and\or
 wallpaper. Range from fully clothed glamour poses to full nude
 poses. NO PORN. Each scan in 800*600 at 256 and about 300K per
 each one.

 Includes fully automated slide show viewers with background music
 playing under Sound Blaster.  Allows preview by model and point
 and click expansion from thumbnail size .BMP. Easily displayed
 with CSHOW or other viewers

 I purchased this disc as a potential offering on my ADULT BBS, but
 it is definately more suitable as an interactive off-line product.

 $25 plus COD or will consider swap for what you might have to offer
     in the XXX category. One-for-one. Need BBS ready, though.










... _My_ software never has bugs.  It just develops random features... ___
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From: JOHN COOK                              Number: 11351
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/02/94 11:00a
Subj: Misc Discs for Trade\Sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Offering the following for sale and\or trade for what have you?

Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective I (Unopened)  $20

Microsoft Programmers Library (1991) $10
        A collection of PC programming references
        Free with purchase of any 2 discs from this offering

Night Owl 9 $20
        6000 plus ZIPped files of fairly recent PD programs.
        BBS ready. Good collection of Windows fonts, pgms,
        and utilities. Some older OS\2 goodies.

_______________________ADULTS ONLY____________________________
SIZZLE $25
        A collection of 500 + high-res .BMPs with interactive
        viewer with SB music. Glamour poses by non-professonal
        ladies. NO PORN. Fully dressed to nude. Suitable as
        screensavers and\or wallpaper under Windows.

SEEDY ROM #7 - Seventh Heaven $25
        A collection of .GIFs for the mature individual. BBS
        ready. Not for the faint-of-heart! 6000 images.

ADULT REFERENCE LIBRARY $25
        A collection of .GIFs for the mature individual. NOT
        BBS ready as far description files go. OK if you build
        a generic description file for each sub-directory.
_________________________________________________________________
Will consider swap on one-for-one basis for:

Busty Babes 1   Busty Babes 2   FAO-3  FAO Gold or like items.

Prefer BBS ready. Pls reply with your swap lists.





... MONEY TALKS ...   but all mine ever says is GOODBYE!
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From: JOHN COOK                              Number: 11352
  To: MICHAEL                                  Date: 02/02/94 11:00a
Subj: Re: WANTED:  Used CD Roms               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Michael to All <=-










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 Mi> If you have CD-ware in *good* quality condition,  Netmail below
 Mi> Address with your Title,  and  information on how to contact you via
 Mi> voice,  or Reply in this conference.

 Does your offer to purchase include trades against my list? Either way.
 Sherlock Holmes I        (Unopened)
 Seedy Rom 7 AKA Seventh Heaven
 Night Owl 9
 Adult Reference Library
 SIZZLE                   (Interactive .BMP collection w\viewers)

 Cash offer is fine.
 John H. Cook
 PO Box 4801
 Greensboro, NC
 27404

... Do what you will with this tagline, just don't bother me about it!
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From: JOHN COOK                              Number: 11353
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/02/94  1:37p
Subj: TRADE WANTED                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

WANTED:
        Any of the following ADULT CD-ROM discs:

        Busty Babes 1
        Busty Babes 2
        FAO Gold
        FAO 3, 2 ,1     in that order
        What have you in XXX BBS-ready?

OFFERING:
        Seedy Rom 7 AKA Seventh Heaven
        Physical Therapy
        Adult Reference Library
        SIZZLE                    .BMP nudes and semi-nudes, suitable
                                  for Windows wallpaper\screensavers
                                  with interactive viewer w\SB support

For leaving a direct message:
(910)299-0954 BBS....leave message to SYSOP

... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 11354
  To: GREG STERLING                            Date: 02/01/94  9:19p
Subj: cd trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Greg,   Your CD went out today (2/1/94) by 1st class US Mail.
                Let me know when you get it.
                        Shane
 þ SLMR 2.1a þ 

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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 11355
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 02/02/94 12:55a
Subj: cd trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SS>Greg,   Your CD went out today (2/1/94) by 1st class US Mail.
SS>                Let me know when you get it.
SS>                        Shane
SS> þ SLMR 2.1a þ

Shane,
I'll let you know.  Thanks.
Greg

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From: GREG STERLING                          Number: 11356
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 02/02/94  5:31p
Subj: cd                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Shane,
CD arrived today, Tues. 2nd.  Thanks.
Greg

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 11357
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 02/02/94  3:03a
Subj: CDs to SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SR>I would like to trade for Giffy Gold or I will offer you $22 for it shipped
SR>me.

Scott, thanks for the reply.  It is a deal.  Just send me mail stating
you are over 21 and your address, and of course the money, hehe.

Randy Neuner
196 Hughes St
Ft Huachuca, AZ 85613

v-   602-459-3480
bbs- see below High Noon BBS

Randy

 * QMPro 1.52 * Piss on you, I'm workin' for Mel Brooks!


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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 11358
  To: BOB HAMILTON                             Date: 02/02/94  5:25p
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mr. Hamilton, those that wish to put our disc on line must pay the
licensing fees.  If a Sysop does not wish to put the disc on line as a
result of having to pay these fees, then he/she/you certainly can put
another disc on line instead.

I hope the Sysops will find Bodacious Beauties to be a disc worthy of
putting on line and paying the fees.

The photographers deserve the licensing fees (in my opinion) when their
images are distributed.

If you choose to enjoy the disc and not put in on line, you will not
have to pay anything put the purchase price.  If you decide to purchase
the disc, I hope you enjoy it.

Thanks for your post.


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From: D REED                                 Number: 11359
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 02/02/94 10:20p
Subj: Penthouse Interactive                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Ismail!

Monday January 31 1994 05:53, Ismail Arslangiray wrote to Frank Gresh:

 IA> We are the US dist. for the mentioned disk. You can order thru us or one
 IA> of our dealers.

 IA> PS: International sales of this particular disk done only thru local
 IA> distributors.

Did you bother to tell Penthouse about this?  Or is this another one of those
surprise discs like Corel Clipart?

Later,

Dave

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From: BRIAN ONOFRIO                          Number: 11360
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/02/94 10:41p
Subj: Rebel Assault                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    No matter what anyone says! Rebel Assault kicks butt! It's the best game
that I've ever played!



                        Brian Onofrio

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From: BILL MUNN                              Number: 11361
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 02/02/94  2:05a
Subj: Free CD-ROM catalog                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Could you send a copy of that free cd-rom catalog to me
at
William Munn
9933 RIDGE ROAD
MIDDLEPORT NY,14105


Thanks in advance: <g>

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From: BILL MUNN                              Number: 11362
  To: DAN PROCIV                               Date: 02/02/94  2:07a
Subj: CD catalog                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please mail a copy of that cd-rom catalog to me at

William Munn
9933 RIDGE ROAD
MIDDLEPORT, NY 14105


thanks

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 11363
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/03/94  8:03p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 Hitachi cd rom drives model 3600 (that's right model 3600) $99 each.
 Access time 350 ms.  Transfer rate 150 kb/s.  These EXCELLENT drives
 can be daisy-chained up to  8  on each propitiatory controller card.

 They can use the same controller cards that  are  used  with  the
 model 3500's.  If you don't  already  have  an  interface  card I
 have them NEW for $60.         I also have:
 Caddies                         $  5   each.
 External cases  for 4 drives    $ 20
 External cases  for 8 drives    $ 30
 Cables for 4 or 8 drives        $ 10
 Power supplies. (110/220)       $ 25
 Shipping   aprox.                       $    4      each   drive.

 30 day warranty.        All domestic orders are shipped    c.o.d.

 Total for an 8  drive  setup  assembled  in  case  with  p/s  and
 interface,  cables,  caddies,  ready  to  plug  in  and   play...
 including shipping c.o.d. (A $1,000 value)  ALL  for  only  $970

 4 drive setup as above....  A $560 value   special offer .....$530

 Call voice 205-824-2552  or "crash" netmail your order to 3625/441.
 Sorry...  routed  netmail  won't reach me since I get my  feed  via
 satellite.

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From: LOUIS DIGGS                            Number: 11364
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 02/02/94 10:20p
Subj: CD-ROM DISKS for sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Gene, I am quite interested in purchasing some of your discs. Can you tell
which ones are compatable with my Macintosh?
Hope to hear from you soon. 
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From: LOUIS DIGGS                            Number: 11365
  To: ALAN EVANS                               Date: 02/02/94 10:23p
Subj: CD-ROM Software Bundles                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Alan, I am quite interested in some of your discs. Can you tell me which of
them are compatable with my Macintosh?
Thanks for a response.

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From: LOUIS DIGGS                            Number: 11366
  To: JOSE VISBAL                              Date: 02/02/94 10:27p
Subj: CD-Rom Game Trade                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jose, I might be interested in buying if the disc is compatable to my
Macintosh.
Appreciate hearing from you 
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 11367
  To: NAEEM SHAIKH                             Date: 02/02/94 11:07a
Subj: * CD-ROM Disks for SALE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NS>GE>CD-ROMS for Sale

NS>GE>Chessmaster 3000 ...............................  $22

NS>Give ME!! :)

   Does that mean that you want to buy it?

   If so let me know here so that I can mark it with your name.
   Then send $24.90 including shipping to me at the address below.
   Be sure to include your address and a copy of this note.


Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ If Corn Oil is made from corn, what's Baby Oil made from?


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From: CLAYTON MANSON                         Number: 11368
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 01/30/94 11:44p
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MH> > ********* FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS *********
MH> >                      $25.00 for the first node
MH> >              $15.00 each additional node (up to five)
MH> >              $12.00 each additional node (up to ten)
MH> >              $10.00 each additional node thereafter

MH>David,
MH>If you get rid of the per node BS I might be interested in this disk.

Thought this was strange myself.
Definitely a "Stay-Away-From" product.

Clayton Manson
TITAN Software Solutions

 * QMPro 1.51 * TITAN, Florida's HOT Adult BBS, (904) 476-1270


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From: RICARDO E MOSQUERA, MD                 Number: 11369
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 01/29/94 11:08a
Subj: % CD-ROM Disks                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

thank you very much I
will make the check and forward to you this week

RICARDO E MOSQUERA
8581 NW 54TH ST.
MIAMI FLORIDA 33166  
 

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From: LEON PETERS                            Number: 11370
  To: TOM HUNT                                 Date: 02/01/94  1:05a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HOW ABOUT SENDING ONE MY WAY  LEON PETERS   PSC 2 BOX 958  APO AA 34002  
 

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From: GLYNN LITTLETON                        Number: 11371
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/01/94 12:18p
Subj: Disappearing .dat files                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* Written in: ROBO
MSGID: 1:3628/7.7 cf3cd246
PID: TerMail 1.4 PROFESSIONAL
Haven't read this one yet so it must be unique to me.  I've just
started using RoboFX 1.02a as a two node system and running on a
VDM.  Whenever I load robocfg, I lose my filebase and msgbase.dat
files although nothing happens to robouser.dat.  I've also noticed
that callers cannot download fxt102.exe although it is correctly
defined in robocfg.

Any ideas?

Thanks, Glynn


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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 11372
  To: PEGGY LANDT                              Date: 02/01/94 11:33a
Subj: Pirate CDs                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Peggy Landt uttered the following to All :
-PL> These "scum" are one of the reasons we pay such high prices for software.

IMHO, whoever thinks piracy is the cause for such high prices on software, 
is crazY!  It's actually the other way around.  High prices causes piracy!  I 
wish the software industry would see this cause piracy would almost cease to 
exist if the prices came WAY down.  But then again, I'm sure the software 
industry already knows.  They just want to charge so dang much!  I for one 
would love to see prices drop.  I could then buy a LOT more stuff at one time 
instead of always having to save so long and wait and wait.  Thanks for 
listening...  Back to CD-ROMs...<G>

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From: DAVID MANZ                             Number: 11373
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94  3:37a
Subj: compleate list of CD's fo               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                 Precision Computers & Electronics Prodly
                 presents a list of affordable CD's......
                 Call 407-469-3204 (voice) for newest prices
                 and newest titles.
                 You can also reach us at The PowerHouse BBS
                            407-469-2414
                 Or at one of the following addresses...
                 1:363/227@FIDONET
                 68:1400/104@CINAMANET
                 62:3800/35@WORLDNET
                 255:1407/111@EZNET


20th Century Video Almanac.................$29.00
20th Century Video Almanac 5 disc set......$52.00
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea...............$25.00
600 Days to Cocos Island...................$35.00
7 Days in August...........................$48.00
9-Digit Zip Codes..........................$29.00
93/94 Mega Movie Guide.....................$56.00
A Line In the Sand.........................$35.00
A+ Grade Builders..........................$42.00
About Cows.................................$25.00
Accumail Quarterly.........................$200.00
Accumail Zip Code-Yearly...................$750.00
Action By Canyon...........................$48.00
Adventures In Heaven.......................$22.00
Adventures In Travel.......................$45.00
Adventures of Pinocchio....................$31.00
Aesop's Fables.............................$31.00
Aesopolis  (Mac Version only)..............$66.00
Aircraft Encyclopedia......................$30.00
Alice in Wonderland........................$46.00
All music guide............................$37.00
Aloha Hawaii...............................$24.00
Amanda's Stories...........................$55.00
Amazing Universe...........................$62.00
America Alive   (MAC only).................$59.00
America in Motion..........................$70.00
America's Premier Shareware................$20.00
American Business Phonebook (94)...........$29.00
"                         " (92)...........$21.00
"                         " (93)...........$32.00
American Heritage Encyclopedia Dict........$70.00
American Vista.............................$38.00
Aminet for Amiga...( Amiga only)...........$20.00
Anglo Saxons...............................$120.00
Animals Encyclopedia (Multimedia)..........$38.00
Animals in Motion..........................$45.00
Annibel's Dream of Ancient Egypt...........$64.00
AOPA Aircraft owners and Polots............$132.00
APOLLO: Space series Project...............$29.00
Architectural CD...........................$20.00
Arthur Teacher Troubles....................$27.00....for MAC...$52.00
ASP Advantage..............................$20.00
Atlas of US Presidents.....................$32.00
Audio 1 by Knowledge Media.................$20.00
Audubon Mammals Encyclopedia...............$23.00
Auduon's Birds of North America............$23.00
Authorware Star & Macromind Action.........$60.00
Bakers Dozen Games for Windows.............$28.00
Barney Bear goes to school.................$18.00
Barney Bear goes to Space..................$18.00
Barron's Guide to Colleges.................$25.00
Baseball Scouting report 92'...............$27.00
Batik Designs..............................$23.00
Battle Chess CD............................$30.00
Beacon.....................................$725.00
Beauty & the Beast.........................$31.00
Best of Shareware..........................$21.00
Best of the Bureau.........................$14.00
Beyond the Wall of Stars...................$27.00
Bible Library 9............................$45.00
Bibles & Religion..........................$16.00
Big Bug Alphabet Book......................$37.00
Black Box..................................$20.00
Blue Force.................................$51.00
Bonanza Shareware -3 disk set-.............$47.00
Book of lists 3rd Edition..................$40.00
Bring the World to your Senses.............$29.00
Britanica Select...........................$27.00
Business & Economic Atlas (INTL)...........$27.00
Business 500...............................$39.00
Business Backgrounds.......................$24.00
Business Library Vol 1.....................$51.00
Business Marketplace.......................$55.00
Business Master............................$21.00
C - Source User' Group Library.............$27.00
California Collection......................$20.00
California Travel..........................$29.00
Cameron Fine Art...........................$36.00
Canadian Shareware.........................$17.00
Capital Hill...............................$24.00
Capstone CD Gme Collection.................$35.00
Careers....................................$29.00
Cartoon Idioms.............................$33.00
Case of the Cautious Condor................$31.00
CD ROM Directory Unidisc #8................$135.00
CD ROM Expo................................$5.00
CD ROM Tour................................$15.00
CD Source Book of American History.........$61.00
Chaos, Fractals & Magic....................$30.00
Chess Maniac CD DOS........................$48.00
ChessMaster 3000...........................$25.00
Chicano Data Base..........................$39.00
Childrens Treasury of Stories & Rhymes.....$45.00
China Scenies..............................$48.00
Christmas Carol............................$24.00
CIA World Factbook 750 (DOS)...............$15.00
Classic Collection.........................$37.00
Cleaning Disk for CD.......................$15.00
Clinton Portrait of Victory................$36.00
Clipart Galore Vol 2.......................$32.00
Clipart Goliath............................$16.00
Clipart Heaven.............................$23.00
Coates Arts-Impressionism..................$29.00
Collectors Edition Games...................$50.00
Color Magic Clipart........................$30.00
Colossal Cookbook..........................$17.00
Complete Bookshop..........................$17.00
Complete Home & Business Legal Guide.......$17.00
Complete House.............................$39.00
Composer's Quest...........................$35.00
Compton's Multimedia Encyclopedia.(MPC)....$64.00
Compton's Camily Encyclopedia..............$68.00
Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia.........$90.00
Computer Answers ADV. Backgammon...........$33.00
Computer Ref. Library......................$16.00
Conan The Cimmerian........................$35.00
Conquest of Longbow........................$57.00
Constitution Papers........................$47.00
Consumer Information Database..............$29.00
Cookbook Heaven............................$23.00
Corel Art Show 91..........................$50.00
Corel Artshow 3............................$52.00
Corel Draw 3.0.............................$200.00
Countries of the World.....................$350.00
Cream of the Crop..........................$23.00
Crossword Cracker..........................$28.00
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From: DAVID MANZ                             Number: 11374
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94  3:38a
Subj: Continuation                            Refer: NONE
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Curious George Learns the Alphabet.........$45.00  (MAC Only)
Curse of Enchanta..........................$35.00
Cyberginic Ranger..........................$20.00
Danger Hot Stuff..(Super Demo).............$28.00
Dark Sun Shattered Lands...................$66.00
Darwin.....................................$60.00
Day of the Tentacle/Maniac Mansion.........$50.00
Daytime Express............................$31.00
Deathstar Arcade Battles...................$16.00
Desert Storm War By Time Mag...............$30.00
Desert Storm: Coalition Command............$29.00
Desktop Bookshop...........................$27.00
Destination Mars...........................$42.00
Dictionaries & Languages...................$16.00
Dictionary of the Living World.............$29.00
Dinosaur Adventure.........................$35.00
Dinosaur Encyclopedia......................$28.00
Doctor Of Games............................$26.00
Doctor of Windows..........................$26.00
Don Quixote................................$29.00
Dracula Unleashed..........................$63.00
Dream Disk for Desktop Publishers..........$47.00
Dr. Jam....................................$65.00
Dune.......................................$58.00
Ecoquest: The Search for Cetus.............$56.00
Education Master-2nd Edition...............$27.00
Educational Gameland.......................$31.00
Electricity Magnetism......................$39.00
Electronic Cookbook: New Basics............$32.00
Electronic Home Library....................$39.00
Encarta Encyclopedia By Microsoft..........$99.00
Encyclopedia Groliers 2.0 For Dos 91.......$27.00
Encyclopedia Groliers 1.5 For Windows......$40.00
Encyclopedia groliers 4.0 for MAC..........$58.00
Encyclopedia Groliers 5.0 for Dos 92.......$45.00
Encyclopedia Groliers 6.0..................$49.00
Encyclopedia of Sounds.....................$16.00
Eric the Unready...........................$47.00
Essential Home and Business Collection.....$26.00
Europe Alive...............................$57.00
European Monarchs..........................$29.00
Exploring Mathmatics.......................$17.00
Extavaganza Shareware 4 disk set...........$41.00
F15/F117A..................................$31.00
F15 Strike Eagle 3.........................$67.00
Facts on File Public Domain................$40.00
Family Choice-Comptons.....................$32.00
Family Doctor..............................$25.00
Family Education Collection................$29.00
Family Fun.................................$15.00
Family Physician...........................$200.00
Fantazia Fonts and Sounds..................$31.00
Fatty Bears Birthday.......................$59.00
Firearms Compendium........................$50.00
Fish Eye View (MAC)........................$50.00
Flight 642.................................$34.00
Florida Statutes...........................$79.00
Fly Fishing................................$41.00
Fontmaster CD Library......................$20.00
Contmaster II..............................$25.00
Food Analyst...............................$41.00
Fook Analyst Plus..........................$165.00
Fractal Ecstasy............................$46.00
Fractunes..................................$30.00
Fractools..................................$30.00
French : By Hyperglot......................$70.00
Fresh Arte 1...............................$34.00
Front Page News............................$48.00
Full Bloom.................................$32.00
Funny......................................$44.00
Future Wars................................$57.00
Gaby Shareware.............................$27.00
Game Pack 2................................$29.00
Game Pack 1................................$29.00
GameMaster.................................$21.00
Games- PC Sig..............................$19.00
Garbo CD may 1992 ISO-9660 Format..........$19.00
Gardening..................................$16.00
Geekwad....................................$31.00
German: By Hyperglot.......................$155.00
Gifs Galore................................$19.00
Giga Games.................................$25.00
Global Explorer............................$100.00
Goferwinkles Adventures....................$35.00
Golden Immortal............................$31.00
Golf Guide.................................$36.00
Grammy Awards Audio Intro..................$7.00
Graphic Photos.............................$28.00
Grammy's...................................$59.00
Graphic Textures...........................$35.00
Graphics 1 by Knowledge Media..............$21.00
Great Cities of the World vol. 1...........$25.00
Great Cities of the World Vol 2............$25.00
Great Literature...........................$62.00
Great Poetry Classics......................$42.00
Great Wonders of the World.................$37.00
Great Wonders of the World 2...............$43.00
Greatest Air Battles.......................$36.00
Greatest Books Collection..................$34.00
Greatest Children's Stories Ever Told......$46.00  (mac only)
Guinness Dosc of Records 93................$25.00
Guinness Book of World Records (Mac).......$29.00
Guinness Book of World Records Dos.........$31.00
Guinness Book of World Records MPC.........$30.00
Gunnship 2000..............................$31.00
Guy Spy....................................$42.00
Hablamos Ingles!...........................$47.00
Hacker Chronicles..........................$30.00
Hall of Fame Shareware.....................$21.00
Ham Call...................................$45.00
Ham Radio-Chestnut.........................$14.00
Ham Radio Shareware (AMSOFT)...............$39.00
Hamware 1993...............................$45.00
Health and Medical Care Disc...............$46.00
Heart: The Engine of Life..................$90.00
Helgerson Cd ROM Source Disc...............$20.00
Hell Cab...................................$74.00
History of the World.......................$68.00
Hobbes OS/2................................$18.00
Hollywood : The Bizarre....................$76.00
Holy Bible Master Series...................$27.00
Horror and SCI FI Motion Pic. Guide........$76.00
Hot Stuff 2................................$29.00
Humans.....................................$34.00
Hurchinsen's Encycolpedia..................$31.00
Hyper Backgammon...........................$32.00
Illustrated Holy Bible.....................$48.00
Image Library II...........................$15.00
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From: DAVID MANZ                             Number: 11375
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94  3:39a
Subj: Continuation                            Refer: NONE
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Images with Imact CDX......................$335.00
Impressionism and it's Source..............$38.00
INCA.......................................$51.00
Indiana Jones..............................$50.00
Info MAC II................................$30.00
Info USA...................................$39.00
Interactive Old Testament..................$50.00
Interactive Story Time 1...................$25.00
"                    " 2...................$25.00
"                    " 3...................$25.00
Internet Connection Shareware..............$29.00
Introduction to Classical Music............$77.00
Inspector Gadget...........................$61.00
Island Designs 2 disk set..................$31.00
Italian Bertlitz by Hyperglot..............$135.00
Jazz a Multimedia History..................$35.00
Jedi Collection............................$45.00
Jets & Props 2 disk Set....................$32.00
Jewish Bookshelf...........................$80.00
Jones in the Fast Land.....................$25.00
Journeyman Project (MAC)...................$73.00
Jurassic & other Dinosaurs.................$21.00
Just Fonts.................................$41.00
Just Grandma and Me........................$45.00
Justis EC Law on CD........................$1050.00
Jutland....................................$56.00
Kaa's Hunting..............................$33.00
KGB World Fact Book........................$38.00
Kids Can Read/Aesop's Fables...............$25.00 \
"            "Benjamin Bunny...............$25.00  \
"            "Cinderella...................$25.00   \
"            "Heather Hets a Home Run......$25.00    \
"            "Long Hard Day at The Ranch...$25.00     \
"            "Moving gives me a Stomach....$25.00      \ All for 225.00
"            "Mud Puddle...................$25.00     /
"            "Paper Bag Princess...........$25.00    /
"            "Peter Rabbit.................$25.00  /
"            "Scary Poems Rotten Kids......$25.00/
King James Bible...........................$33.00
King Arthur's Magic Castle.................$37.00
Kings Quest V..............................$25.00
Kings Quest VI.............................$42.00
Klotski....................................$19.00
Knowledge Media-Multimedia.................$27.00
Kodak Photo CD.............................$17.00
La Coleccion...............................$18.00
Labyrinth of Time..........................$63.00
Language /OS by Knowledge Media............$23.00
Language Discovery.........................$29.00
Languages of the World.....................$45.00
Laset Tax..................................$29.00
Learning Fun For Kids......................$42.00
Learning Heaven............................$24.00
Learning Lotus 1-2-3.......................$32.00
Learning Windows 3.1.......................$26.00
Legend of Kyrandia.........................$61.00
Leisure Suit Larry.........................$63.00
Lessons in American History................$67.00
Library of the Future......................$48.00
Libraty of the Future 950..................$255.00
Libris Britannica..........................$49.00
Linux Operating System.....................$41.00
Lion Share.................................$21.00
Loom.......................................$21.00
Lord of the Rings..........................$57.00
Lost Treasures of Infocom..................$44.00
Lotus 1-2-3 for Windows....................$103.00
Lovely Ladies II...........................$38.00
Lyric Language French......................$35.00
Lyric Language Spanish.....................$35.00
Macademic Volume (MAC).....................$37.00
Mad Dog McCree.............................$52.00
Magazine Article Summaries.................$25.00
Magazine Rack..............................$25.00
Magic Lips Music...........................$23.00
Majestic Places............................$32.00
Manhole Game...............................$33.00
Mantis EXP Fighter.........................$27.00
Map Expert.................................$330.00
Marketing Master...........................$22.00
Matinee....................................$27.00
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing................$32.00
Max The Dragon.............................$61.00
Mayo Clinic................................$31.00
Mcgraw Holl Science & Technical Ref........$380.00
Mediasource General 1......................$335.00
Mediasource General 2......................$335.00
Mediasource Historical.....................$335.00
Mediasource Natural Sciences...............$335.00
Mediasource Sampler........................$31.00
Medical Year Book (1988)...................$32.00
Mega media 1 by Knowledge Media............$23.00
Mega Rom-MAC...............................$27.00
Mega Rom 1.................................$27.00
Mega Rom 2.................................$27.00
Microsoft Musical Instruments..............$67.00
Microsoft Business Consult & Stat Pak......$110.00
Microsoft Cinemania........................$73.00
Microsoft Golf.............................$61.00
Microsoft Video For  Windows...............$175.00
Microsoft Windows 3.1 MPC..................$67.00
Microsoft Works for Windows................$48.00
Middle East Diary..........................$41.00
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Subj: Continuation                            Refer: NONE
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Putt Putt Joins the Parade....................$59.00
Q & A ver 4.0.................................$60.00
QRZ Ham Tadio & Call Book.....................$21.00
Quick Art: Wheeler............................$49.00
Quicktoons....................................$21.00
RBBS in a Box - Red...........................$32.00
Reader's Library..............................$41.00
Reel Clips....................................$31.00
Renaissance Master 1..........................$57.00
Renaissance Master 2..........................$57.00
Return of the Phantom.........................$52.00
Return to the Moon............................$31.00
Return to Zork................................$58.00
Rick Doyle Travel Photography.................$52.00
Roger Ebert's Home Movie Companion............$37.00
ROM Material..................................$18.00
Rom Ware 2....................................$17.00
Rotor-Airball-Time Bandit.....................$28.00
San Diego Zoo Presents; The Animals...........$27.00
San Diego Zoo; The Animals- MAC...............$25.00
Santa Fe Tour.................................$27.00
Sante'........................................$83.00
Scenic Photos.................................$28.00
Schoolware English............................$67.00
Schumacher' Cookbook..........................$35.00
Seals of US Government........................$41.00
Secret of Monkey Island.......................$25.00
Secret Wapons of the Luftwaffe................$26.00
Selectware....................................$14.00
Seventh Guest.................................$63.00
Seventh Guest OEM.............................$30.00
SFX-Sound Effects.............................$47.00
Shakespeare Study Guide.......................$29.00
Shakespeare...................................$20.00
Shareware Avalanche...........................$30.00
Shareware Explosion...........................$26.00
Shareware Express.............................$18.00
Shareware Games..(2500).......................$27.00
Shareware Gold 2..............................$36.00
Shareware Heaven..............................$20.00
Shareware Heaven 2............................$24.00
Shareware Overload............................$15.00
Shareware Solutions...........................$92.00
Shareware Studio Disc.........................$30.00
Shareware Tiger...............................$34.00
Sherlock Consulting Detective.................$24.00
Sherlock Consulting Detective vol II..........$64.00
Sherlock Consulting Detective (MAC)...........$39.00
Sherlock Holmes...............................$20.00
SIGCAT Database for CD's......................$15.00
Significant Series............................$14.00
Simtel 20 DOS Archives........................$20.00
Sleeping Beauty...............................$32.00
So Much Screenware............................$27.00
So Much Shareware LIB #1......................$20.00
So Much Shareware LIB #2......................$21.00
Software Information Database.................$21.00
Software Jukebox..............................$35.00
Software Vault................................$16.00
Software Vault 2..............................$17.00
Software Vault Gold...........................$22.00
Solar Heaven..................................$21.00
Solar System, Our.............................$16.00
Sound Library.................................$21.00
Sound Sensation...............................$16.00
Sound Wav.....................................$32.00
Source Code CD ROM for UNIX & DOS.............$31.00
Space & Astronomy.............................$25.00
Space Adventure...............................$33.00
Space Quest IV Roger Wilco....................$28.00
Space Series-The Shuttle......................$45.00
Spanish Berlitz by Hyperglot.(Delux)..........$150.00
Spanish y Hyperglot...........................$49.00
Speedway CD ROM Speedup (speeds up CD)on disk.$65.00
Spirit of Excalibur...........................$41.00
Sports Best...................................$40.00
Sports Illustrated Almanac....................$25.00
Star Child....................................$32.00
Stellar Seven Game............................$25.00
Straight From Heaven..........................$20.00
Street Maps USA...............................$101.00
Street Atlas USA 2.0 for Windows..............$110.00
Sun Users Group GNU...........................$39.00
Super CD 1 Shareware Library..................$15.00
Super CD 2 Shareware Library..................$15.00
Supertoons....................................$16.00
Survey of Western Art.........................$63.00
Svinga For Mac................................$33.00
Svinga for Windows............................$33.00
Talking Classic Tales.........................$28.00
Talking Jungle Safari.........................$28.00
Talking Schoolhouse...........................$30.00
TAO of Cow....................................$30.00
Technotools...................................$21.00
Terminator 2 Chess Wars.......................$44.00
Terrorist Group Profiles......................$40.00
The Eye of the Beholder Trilogy...............$68.00
The Hound of the Baskervilles.................$68.00
The Mother Of all Clipart.....................$32.00
The Wind in the Willows..(MAC)................$24.00
Time Almanac 93...............................$95.00
Time Almanac 1990 Man of the Decade...........$18.00
Time Almanac 92...............................$91.00
Time Magazine Almanac 91......................$24.00
Time Table of History: Art & Entertain........$32.00
Time Table of History: Business & Polotic.....$32.00
Time Table of History: Science & Inno.........$34.00
Tony Laruso Baseball..........................$66.00
Too Many Typefonts............................$17.00
Toolworks Reference Library Webster...........$23.00

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From: DAVID MANZ                             Number: 11377
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94  3:41a
Subj: Continuation                            Refer: NONE
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Top 2000 Shareware...........................$29.00
Tortoise & the Hare..........................$44.00
Total Baseball...............................$45.00
Total Heart..................................$40.00
Trade Opportunities..........................$48.00
Travel Photography...........................$38.00
Triple Tris Challenge........................$39.00
Twains World.................................$30.00
Tweleve Roads to Gettysburg..................$39.00
Ultima Underworld............................$71.00
Ultimate Shareware Collection................$38.00
Under Sea Adventure..........................$71.00
US Atlas For DOS.............................$29.00
US Atlas for Windows.........................$29.00
US Atlas With Automap........................$27.00
US Civics....................................$30.00
US History...................................$38.00
US Presidents................................$30.00
US State Fact Book...........................$30.00
US Wars: Civil War...........................$30.00
US Wars: Desert Storm w/Coalition Com........$30.00
US Wars: Korea...............................$30.00
US Wars: Vietnam.............................$30.00
US Wars: World War II........................$30.00
USA Today Newspaper the 90's.................$39.00
USA Tour.....................................$41.00
VGA Spectrum.................................$15.00
VGA Spectrum 2...............................$27.00
Victor Vector and Yondo......................$44.00
Victor Vector and Yondo 2....................$44.00
Video Cube...................................$57.00
Vintage Aloha................................$70.00
Vital Signs..................................$70.00
Vocabulearn-Learn French.....................$34.00
Vocabulearn-Learn Spanish....................$34.00
Voyage to the Planet 1-4.....................$63.00 each or all for 240.00
Voyage to the Stars 1-3......................$63.00 each of all for 180.00
Voyager Mapping By GEO Disk..................$140.00
Voyager Space Images 12 disks................$170.00
Washington Times & Insight on News...........$49.00
Whale of a Tale..............................$67.00
What a Lot of Software.......................$17.00
Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego?.......$29.00
White Horse Child............................$32.00
Who Killed Sam Rupert........................$26.00
Wild Places..................................$25.00
Wildcat Gold.................................$27.00
Win Box......................................$35.00
Win Platinum.................................$20.00
Windows Shareware Gold.......................$37.00
Wing Commander II............................$71.00
Wing Commander: With Secret Mission..........$38.00
Wing Commander: With Ultima VI...............$27.00
Winware vol 3................................$28.00
Wizpak.......................................$13.00
Women In Motion..............................$45.00
Women of Venus...............................$32.00
Word Tales...................................$32.00
World & US Atlas for DOS.....................$29.00
"                   "Windows.................$41.00
World Factbook (Quanta Press)................$30.00
World Factbook 1993 (Quanta Press)...........$30.00
World Factbook- Multimedia (Bureau)..........$47.00
World of Flight..............................$42.00
World of Trains..............................$42.00
World Traveller..............................$17.00
World View...................................$27.00
World Vision 3 Disk Set......................$38.00
World Vista..................................$34.00
Wrath of The Demon...........................$28.00
   


         Please Contact Precision Computer & Electronics for 
         Descriptions and latest price list...Some titles may
         be out of stock and New Titles Come in all the time.
         Shiping type and charge will be discused at time of 
         sale. You can contact Precision Computers and Electronics
         in several different ways.
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                 back to you via voice line.
         2) Leave a message in this area for David Manz.....
         3) Send Net Mail to 1:363/227@FIDONET
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From: BRYAN COTTER                           Number: 11378
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 02/01/94  3:15p
Subj: A.P.L. CD for trade                     Refer: NONE
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 -BC> Who's got an R-rated (no X) Adult CD for trade for this copy of A.P.L.
 -BC> (Adult Picture Library)??  Let me know here or call 615-356-1967...

 -BO> Give us a call, it's in stock as well as about 120 other titles as well.

What's in stock Boris?  I'm wanting to trade my copy of A.P.L. for an R-rated 
(no x) Adult CD...  I can always buy one but I wanted to make a trade.  Do you 
want to do a trade?  Call me @ 615-356-1967 if so.  Otherwise, not interested.

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From: JOHN COOK                              Number: 11379
  To: MICHAEL CHAMBERLAIN                      Date: 01/31/94  2:56p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike,
I'll call Mr. Ferrell today and have him send you the catalog. I just got
2 discs from him and need to call to let him know how they 'viewed'. I got
Sizzle and Digital Dreams 2.


... I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere!
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From: THOMAS BAIRD                           Number: 11380
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94 10:09p
Subj: CD-Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What's the most highly recommend CD-Rom out there that supports OS/2?

                                               -THoMaS BaiRD

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 11381
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 01/30/94  4:59p
Subj: CDs to SWAP                             Refer: NONE
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 > RD>DOS.....whatcha got?

 > Adult discs:
 > Giffy Gold
 > Adult Reference Library

 > Software:
 > Publish-It Lite! w/large extra manual (DTP program)
 > Caveman Ugh-Olympics
 > Battle Tank (unopened)
 > Diet Balancer
 > MB Teaches Typing

 > Thanks
 > Randy


I would like to trade for Giffy Gold or I will offer you $22 for it shipped to
me.

Please let me know.

Thanks
Scott Raley

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 11382
  To: DAN PROCIV                               Date: 01/30/94  5:01p
Subj: Cdrom dealer           01               Refer: NONE
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PLease send your catalog of shareware and or adult cdroms here to me in this
echo or via netmail to 1:2612/104 or snail mail to:

Scott Raley
P.O.Box 66
Ridge, MD 20680-0066

thanks!

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 11383
  To: LAYN HUFFMAN                             Date: 01/30/94  5:06p
Subj: CDS TO SWAP                             Refer: NONE
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 > Roger, how bout a trade of your XXX Extreme for
 > Ecstasy Hot Pics.
 > BBS ready, Mostly XXX gifs, includes several
 > directories on the
 > bizarre (kinky stuff). Also contains animations of
 > .FLI and .GL with
 > viewers.

 > Layn Huffman

If the trade doesn't go through I will buy your cd for $21 shipped to me.

thanks
Scott Raley

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 11384
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 01/31/94  4:13p
Subj: Re: Bbv2 For Trade                      Refer: NONE
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I will trade you Shareware Gold and shareware to the maxx for FAO1.
 
please let me know.
 
thanks
Scott

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From: TONY WHITE                             Number: 11385
  To: RICK SHELTON                             Date: 02/01/94  6:54a
Subj: Busty Babes Vol1 #1                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Rick Shelton keyed in the following blurb to All:

RS> Hello All!

RS> I still have Busty Babes Vol1 #1 for sale, make me an offer.
RS> Cya

You mean an original, right?  Full red label?  $75.  Reply here.

-TWhite

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From: CHRIS LILLY                            Number: 11386
  To: LOUIS SOKOL                              Date: 01/31/94  6:13p
Subj: NEC 3XI Triple Speed                    Refer: NONE
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I have a USR 16.8 W/fax that I would like to trade for one of your NEC 3XI
Drives.. If intrested call Chris at 1-303-429-9359.. This modem is External and
is a small footprint model..
thx!

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 11387
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 01/31/94  5:53a
Subj: Penthouse Interactive                   Refer: NONE
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We are the US dist. for the mentioned disk. You can order thru us or one of our
dealers.
 
GroupWare
1-206-472-1400
 
PS: International sales of this particular disk done only thru local
distributors. 

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From: EDDIE IMPERIAL                         Number: 11388
  To: MIKE STEFFEN                             Date: 01/31/94  1:47p
Subj: re: CD trade                            Refer: NONE
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MIKE,
  I CALLED UPS AND TOLD THEM TO HOLD THE PACKAGE (WED).
  THEY SAID TO PICK IT UP FRIDAY. WHEN I WENT IN TO PICK IT
  UP THEY SAID IT WOULD BE MONDAY... WENT BACK MONDAY
  AND THEY COULD NOT FIND IT. THEY SENT IT BACK I GUESS.
  TALKED WITH UPS BOSS'S  (JAY & EDDIE) STAFFORD, TX AND
  HE SAID UPS SCREWED UP. AT THAT TIME HE SAID HE WOULD
  MAKE IT UP AT UPS EXPENSE. CALL ME 713-437-0124 OR
  LEAVE YOUR NUMBER IF YOU WANT TO TRY IT AGAIN.


  AS FAR AS SHIPPING GOES -=> Quoting Mike Steffen to Eddie Imperial <=-

 MS> Sent APL CD to the address you had given me, and was returned today! 
 MS> UPS card said Out of Business!?
 MS> Mike

 MS> -!- QScan v1.01b
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From: RICK AURAS                             Number: 11389
  To: ALLEN DIETZ                              Date: 01/30/94 11:32a
Subj: USED CD-ROMS FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Allen Dietz to Rick Auras <=-

 AD> Shakespeare (Complete works, Creative Multimedia Corp.).....$10.00
 
 RA> Alan, can you tell me a little more on this one.  I am very
 AD> interested.
 RA> Is it strictly text (since it is from CMC I thought there may be more
 RA> to it)?  Let me know.  Thanks.  Rick

 AD> Rick, the Shakespeare CD-ROM from Creative Multimedia Corporation
 AD> contains the Complete Works of Shakespeare on one CD-ROM, including
 AD> full text copies of all of his plays, poems, and sonnets.  All text
 AD> on the Shakespeare CD-ROM is available in both American and Queen's
 AD> English.  The disc runs on both MS-DOS and Macintosh computers.

 AD> There may be a few line drawings, but it's primarily a text-based
 AD> CDROM.

 AD> Allen

  Allen, thanks for the info.  I'll pass.  Rick

... Rick Auras, P.O. Box 458821, San Antonio, TX 78280
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From: BRIAN WOODBURY                         Number: 11390
  To: DON KULHA                                Date: 01/31/94  1:16p
Subj: Mac Service Info CD                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 01-26-94 Don Kulha wrote to Mac Owners... 
 
 DK>  Surplus Apple Service Info CD's (Service Source CDROM) Jan 93 edition 
 DK>  
 DK> *** Close-Out Special! *** $13 Including Shipping *** 60 CD's Left *** 
 DK>  
 DK> Contains 75mb of information on servicing Apple products including 
 DK> compact, modular and notebook CPU's, printers, monitors and network 
 DK> products.  
 DK> Price: $18 (Now $13) inc. shipping & handling in the U.S. (1st class) 
  
     Is this something I can load up on my IBM to use for apple reference? 
 
... OFFLINE 1.43 * A freely available QWK reader! 
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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 11391
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94  4:47p
Subj: Bodacious Beauties - New                Refer: NONE
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**************** GRAPHICAL IMAGES OF FLORIDA, INC. ****************

                              Presents

************************ BODACIOUS BEAUTIES ***********************

Due to a delay in shipping (bad weather) and customs, this disc will 
be available from your distributor by the second week of Feb., 1994.

            A FULLY COMMERCIAL -- FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC

             More Than 85 Well Known BODACIOUS BEAUTIES
               Over 2,000 Hi-Res GIFs at 1024x768x256
             Over 650 Megabytes (including thumbnails)
                      From Original 35mm Slides
                          New GUI Interface
                      Installs Quickly & Easily
                       Extremely User Friendly
                      Mouse Support & Popup Help
                     Multiple Directory Slide Show

                               RATED - X

*********************** FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!! ********************
********* FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS *********

                     $25.00 for the first node
             $15.00 each additional node (up to five)
             $12.00 each additional node (up to ten)
             $10.00 each additional node thereafter

WE HAVE SET UP BODACIOUS BEAUTIES WITH THE SYSOP IN MIND BY PUTTING
ALL OF THE IMAGES IN A TOTAL OF 9 DIRECTORIES.

USERS UTILIZING THE CD-ILLUSION INTERFACE WILL SEE 46 DIRECTORIES.

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                     STATS for BODACIOUS BEAUTIES
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Directory of BBGIRLS1

BBLEZ1.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF0101.GIF  -  BBFF0117.GIF  Angel Bust & Jaye Milo
BBFF0901.GIF  -  BBFF0909.GIF  Jessica Fox & Veronica Brazil
BBFF1501.GIF  -  BBFF1504.GIF  Skye Blue & Tracy West
BBLEZ2.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF0201.GIF  -  BBFF0212.GIF  Ash Leigh & Bodacious Babbett
BBFF0601.GIF  -  BBFF0610.GIF  Erika Everest & Vicky
BBFF1101.GIF  -  BBFF1108.GIF  Lisa Rae & Saphire
BBLEZ3.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF0301.GIF  -  BBFF0327.GIF  Brandi Myles & Stephanie
BBFF1001.GIF  -  BBFF1013.GIF  Kiss & Nicole
BBLEZ4.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF0401.GIF  -  BBFF0415.GIF  Busty Belle & Kimberly Kupps
BBFF1401.GIF  -  BBFF1415.GIF  Samanth Caine & Trinity Loren
BBLEZ5.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF0501.GIF  -  BBFF0512.GIF  Crystal Storm & Veronica Brazil
BBFF1301.GIF  -  BBFF1316.GIF  Raquel & Stephanie
BBLEZ6.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF0701.GIF  -  BBFF0710.GIF  Honey Hills & Mickey Mounds
BBFF0801.GIF  -  BBFF0820.GIF  Jerica Fox & Jessica Fox
BBLEZ7.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBFF1201.GIF  -  BBFF1221.GIF  Persia & Toi
BBFF1601.GIF  -  BBFF1608.GIF  Teresa Tease & Toi

      224 file(s)   76746848 bytes

Directory of BBGIRLS2

BBGROUP1.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBGP0101.GIF  -  BBGP0110.GIF  Flame & LuLu Devine & Dick Nasty
BBGP0201.GIF  -  BBGP0208.GIF  Honey Hills & Lynden Johnson & 
                               Mickey Mounds & Veronica Brazil
BBGP0301.GIF  -  BBGP0313.GIF  Kira & Lady Antoinette & Jimmy Zee
BBGP0401.GIF  -  BBGP0408.GIF  Kiss & Shella Stone & Rod
BBGP0501.GIF  -  BBGP0517.GIF  Raquel & Stephanie & Mark
BBCOUPL1.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBMF0101.GIF  -  BBMF0106.GIF  Bambi The Amazon & Rick Masters
BBMF0301.GIF  -  BBMF0315.GIF  Bodacious Babbett & Don
BBMF0401.GIF  -  BBMF0409.GIF  Ellie & Willie
BBCOUPL2.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBMF0201.GIF  -  BBMF0210.GIF  Barbie Brooks & Brad Armstrong
BBMF1301.GIF  -  BBMF1320 GIF  Teresa Tease & Julian St. Jox
BBCOUPL3.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBMF0501.GIF  -  BBMF0519.GIF  Kimberly Kupps & Chris
BBMF0901.GIF  -  BBMF0914.GIF  Olivia & David
BBMF1201.GIF  -  BBMF1219.GIF  Taylor Wayne & Derrick
BBCOUPL4.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBMF0601.GIF  -  BBMF0614.GIF  Lady Dee & Opu
BBMF0701.GIF  -  BBMF0714.GIF  Leanna Lovelace & Eric
BBMF0801.GIF  -  BBMF0814.GIF  LuLu Devine & Dick Nasty
BBCOUPL5.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BBMF1001.GIF  -  BBMF1010.GIF  Sherry & Jimmy Zee
BBMF1101.GIF  -  BBMF1120.GIF  Tammy Monroe & Rick Masters

      246 file(s)   79121133 bytes

Directory of BBGIRLS3

BBGRLS01.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
ALYSSA01.GIF  -  ALYSSA20.GIF  Alyssa Alps
DREAM01.GIF   -  DREAM06.GIF   Justa Dream
LYNDEN01.GIF  -  LYNDEN15.GIF  Lynden Johnson
MOUNDS01.GIF  -  MOUNDS15.GIF  Mickey Mounds
BBGRLS02.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
ANGEL01.GIF   -  ANGEL06.GIF   Angel
EUROPE01.GIF  -  EUROPE07.GIF  Europe Dichan
TEEZE01.GIF   -  TEEZE43.GIF   Traci Teeze
BBGRLS03.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
ANGELA01.GIF  -  ANGELA23.GIF  Angela Summers
CHELLE01.GIF  -  CHELLE19.GIF  Chelle Marie
BBGRLS04.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
APPLES01.GIF  -  APPLES26.GIF  Candee Apples
KISS01.GIF    -  KISS16.GIF    Kiss
BBGRLS05.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BABETT01.GIF  -  BABETT31.GIF  Bodacious Babbett
TOI01.GIF     -  TOI11.GIF     Toi

      243 file(s)   73408472 bytes

Directory of BBGIRLS4

BBGRLS06.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BAMBI01.GIF   -  BAMBI17.GIF   Bambi The Amazon
CIERA01.GIF   -  CIERA06.GIF   Ciera Knight
COTTON01.GIF  -  COTTON19.GIF  Cotton Candy
BBGRLS07.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BO01.GIF      -  BO26.GIF      Bo-Daeshus
DOLLY01.GIF   -  DOLLY15.GIF   Dolly Dreams
BBGRLS08.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BRANDY01.GIF  -  BRANDY17.GIF  Brandy Baby
FIELDS01.GIF  -  FIELDS38.GIF  Valerie Fields
BBGRLS09.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BRITNY01.GIF  -  BRITNY34.GIF  Busty Brittany
JERICA01.GIF  -  JERICA08.GIF  Jerica Fox
BBGRLS10.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
BUST01.GIF    -  BUST09.GIF    Angel Bust
JAMES01.GIF   -  JAMES62.GIF   Jesse James

      256 file(s)   76096744 bytes



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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 11392
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94  4:47p
Subj: Bodacious Beauties - New                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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Directory of BBGIRLS5

BBGRLS11.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
DANNI01.GIF   -  DANNI20.GIF   Danni Ashe
LOREN01.GIF   -  LOREN14.GIF   Trinity Loren
MADISON1.GIF  -  MADISON5.GIF  Madison
BBGRLS12.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
DEEDEE01.GIF  -  DEEDEE05.GIF  Dee Dee
TOPPS01.GIF   -  TOPPS25.GIF   Crystal Topps
BBGRLS13.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
DIONNA01.GIF  -  DIONNA32.GIF  Dionna Starr
MOONS01.GIF   -  MOONS16.GIF   Honey Moons
NATALIE1.GIF  -  NATALIE8.GIF  Natalie
BBGRLS14.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
DIOR01.GIF    -  DIOR17.GIF    Kristin Dior
JUGGS01.GIF   -  JUGGS38.GIF   Jessica Juggs
BBGRLS15.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
ERIKA01.GIF   -  ERIKA32.GIF   Erika Everest
RENEE01.GIF   -  RENEE09.GIF   Renee Flaming

      226 file(s)   66984478 bytes

Directory of BBGIRLS6

BBGRLS16.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
FLUFFY01.GIF  -  FLUFFY17.GIF  Fluffy Pillows
LISA01.GIF    -  LISA39.GIF    Lisa Chest
BBGRLS17.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
HONEY01.GIF   -  HONEY35.GIF   Honey Hills
STACEY01.GIF  -  STACEY06.GIF  Stacey
BBGRLS18.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
JASMINE1.GIF  -  JASMINE9.GIF  Jasmine
MONROE01.GIF  -  MONROE19.GIF  Maxine Monroe
OLIVIA01.GIF  -  OLIVIA14.GIF  Olivia
BBGRLS19.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
KEISHA01.GIF  -  KEISHA36.GIF  Keisha
SUZIE01.GIF   -  SUZIE20.GIF   Suzie Boobies
BBGRLS20.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
KUPPS01.GIF   -  KUPPS12.GIF   Kimberly Kupps
PATIYA01.GIF  -  PATIYA17.GIF  Princess Pattiya

      229 file(s)   65642363 bytes

Directory of BBGIRLS7

BBGRLS21.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
LOVE01.GIF    -  LOVE12.GIF    Alexis Love
PLENTY01.GIF  -  PLENTY16.GIF  Patty Plenty
VULVA01.GIF   -  VULVA14.GIF   Explicit Closeups
BBGRLS22.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
LULU01.GIF    -  LULU35.GIF    LuLu Devine
MONTANA1.GIF  -  MONTANA6.GIF  Montana
MOORE01.GIF   -  MOORE15.GIF   Chessie Moore
BBGRLS23.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
MYLES01.GIF   -  MYLES13.GIF   Brandi Myles
TOWERS01.GIF  -  TOWERS43.GIF  Tabatha Towers
BBGRLS24.GIF  -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
RAE01.GIF     -  RAE27.GIF     Lisa Rae
ZORYNA01.GIF  -  ZORYNA29.GIF  Zoryna Dreams

      214 file(s)   60367065 bytes

Directory of BBGIRLS8

CANDY.GIF     -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
CANDY01.GIF   -  CANDY55.GIF   Candy Cantelopes
HEATHER.GIF   -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
HEATHR01.GIF  -  HEATHR30.GIF  Heather Hooters
PARIS.GIF     -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
PARIS01.GIF   -  PARIS52.GIF   Chrissy Paris
WENDY.GIF     -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
WENDY01.GIF   -  WENDY52.GIF   Wendy Whoppers

      193 file(s)   57080416 bytes

Directory of BBGIRLS9

DIXIE.GIF     -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
DIXIE00.GIF   -  DIXIE54.GIF   Dixie Bubbles (Back Covergirl)
KELLY1.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
KELLY00.GIF   -  KELLY41.GIF   Dakota Kelly (Inside Front Covergirl)
KELLY2.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
KELLY42.GIF   -  KELLY71.GIF   Dakota Kelly (Inside Front Covergirl)
STORM1.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
STORM000.GIF  -  STORM055.GIF  Crystal Storm (Front Covergirl)
STORM2.GIF    -  Thumbnail image page (for subscribers to download)
STORM056.GIF  -  STORM107.GIF  Crystal Storm (Front Covergirl)

      240 file(s)   75321620 bytes

***********************************************************************
                     TOTALS for BODACIOUS BEAUTIES
***********************************************************************

Total GIF files listed:               2071 file(s)  630769139 bytes
Total Thumbnail CVI files:              46 file(s)   36215616 bytes
Total MAP files:                        46 file(s)     856428 bytes
Total FILES.BBS files:                   9 file(s)      70493 bytes
Total files in ILLUSION directory:      43 file(s)    6982582 bytes
Total files in VPIC directory:          64 file(s)     393325 bytes
INSTALL.BAT                              1 file(s)         97 bytes

TOTAL FILES ON BODACIOUS BEAUTIES:    2280 file(s)  675287680 bytes
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***************** Our NEW GUI Interface features: *****************

1.)     Total mouse or keyboard control.

2.)     View all of the images in a directory on a single
        hi-resolution thumbnail page.

3.)     Click mouse or press enter on an image on the thumbnail
        page and view it in FULL SCREEN mode.

4.)     Copy single or multiple images from thumbnail image page
        to the hard drive or a floppy disc.

5.)     Slideshow the images from a single or multiple directories
        (unlimited tag capability, ie. all the images on the disc).

6.)     User definable delay setting for slideshow
        (Range 0 to 99999 seconds, 0 equals manual advancement).

7.)     Boss/Wife feature blanks thumbnail page to either a BLANK
        screen or to the CD-ILLUSION LOGO screen.
        (User selects in setup).

8.)     Shells to DOS from the CD-ILLUSION interface and retains
        all of your conventional memory except 17K. (ie. if you
        have 617K conventional memory available after booting
        your system, when you shell to DOS from CD-Illusion you
        will have 600K conventional memory available)

9.)     Three dimensional push button menu bar.

10.)    User definable settings for mouse control for slower or
        faster computers.

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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 11393
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94  4:47p
Subj: Bodacious Beauties - New                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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                                Sensitivity for X and Y Factor
                                Mouse Double Speed Threshold

11.)    Status information line indicates the following information:

        a. The filename of the current GIF highlighted.
        b. The description of the current GIF highlighted.
        c. The directory the current GIF highlighted resides in.
        d. Whether you are in the SINGLE or TAG image mode.
        e. When in the TAG mode, indicates the number of GIF's
           in the directory and the number of GIFs tagged.
        f. On screen REAL TIME digital clock which displays the
           hour, minutes, and seconds.

12.)    The current thumbnail is highlighted with a red box, the
        tagged thumbnails are highlighted with a white box.

13.)    CD-ILLUSION provides a QUICK HELP reference by clicking
        your mouse on the HELP button or by pressing <F8> and
        provides a DETAILED HELP reference by clicking your mouse
        on the SETUP button or by pressing <F9> and choosing
        HELP from the setup menu.

14.)    CD-ILLUSION is a very fast HI-RESOLUTION Graphical User
        Interface (GUI) and is extremely USER FRIENDLY.

15.)    CD-ILLUSION supports most major manufacturers video cards.---
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From: JUDSON KILLIAN                         Number: 11394
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/26/94  5:33a
Subj: !FREE CD CATALOG!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Please send me one of your CD-Rom catalogs.
                                Thanx.
                                    Judson Killian II
                                    3631 Callaghan #533
                                    San Antonio, Tx 78228

... Knock softly, but firmly.  I like soft, firm knockers.
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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 11395
  To: RICHARD KELLER                           Date: 01/31/94  5:31a
Subj: Re: JFK CDROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks, I'll check with Egghead.

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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 11396
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/31/94  5:31a
Subj: Re: JFK CDROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks, If you get further information on the JFK Assassination Encyclopedia
please post.

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From: G. LARRY WEBB                          Number: 11397
  To: BILL ODOM                                Date: 01/31/94  1:26p
Subj: BOOKSHELF/ENCARTA                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

i got the message you are interested in bookshelf 1992 OEM and
the 1993 version of Encarta on CD ROM. what price did you see?
your message did not quote a price; i was asking $70 plus
shipping. Post me your offer and we'll see where we go (if you
are still interested). Thanks!

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From: SCOTT STURGILL                         Number: 11398
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94 11:43p
Subj: Adult cd's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am wanting to trade some of my current CD ROM Disks for some adult Disks.  I
have the Following for trade.

1) Stellar 7
2) CD Deluxe Pack (ChessMast 3000, Mavis Beacon, Us Atlas, World Atlas) 3)
MacroMedia (Action & ClipMedia) 4) Microsoft Multimedia Pack For Windows 5)
Windows TestDrive (Thousand Of Programs AND Utilities For Windows) 6) National
Parks CD 7) Deep River Publishing

Just Let me know the name of the Adult Cd that you want to trade for and let me
know the name and what is has on it (# of Gifs, Gl's, text, Etc.) Just leave me
E-mail and we can make Arrangements
        Thanks
                Scott


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From: JAMES CLEVENGER                        Number: 11399
  To: STEVE KENNEDY                            Date: 01/31/94  4:48p
Subj: Re: 3DO?                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Re: Software selling machines.
 
I agree, and it is actually very appropriate, since what good is a computer
that has no software?
 
Regarding CPU Bach, I really think that a title of this quality will be ported
over to the other CD-ROM based platforms.  So, don't worry if the 3D0 doesn't
make it as a market success - today we see a big demand for good software that
drives the developers to routinely make multi-platform versions.  This trend is
expected to increase during the 90s.


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From: BRIAN KELLER                           Number: 11400
  To: TIM SHEEHAN                              Date: 01/28/94  8:33p
Subj: Re: WING COMMANDER 2                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have alot of sierra games but would like to sell it because
i have almost every other game out. talk to you later bye.

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From: BRIAN KELLER                           Number: 11401
  To: CHIP SLATE                               Date: 01/28/94  8:35p
Subj: Re: WING COMMANDER 2                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Im more interested in selling i have lots of games you probally
have bye.

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From: BRIAN KELLER                           Number: 11402
  To: LOUIS DIGGS                              Date: 01/28/94  8:36p
Subj: GAMES FOR SALE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sorry but ibm cd-rom games are for ibm only :( 

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From: BRIAN KELLER                           Number: 11403
  To: JOSE VISBAL                              Date: 01/28/94  8:36p
Subj: Re: GAMES FOR SALE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Its practically brand new only taken out off the case 4 times
has every thing even the registration card. would have to
sell it for $24.00 because several other people are intiresed.

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From: SEAN SEELY                             Number: 11404
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/29/94 11:06a
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
JR>>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
JR>>If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
JR>>CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)44k
JR>>DESCRIPT FREQ: descript.zip   (about 800 cd-rom disc descriptions)70k
JR>>        Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org
JR>>    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
JR>>Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: (216) 296-9831  -  24 hours
JR>>P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244
JR>>Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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JR>> * Origin: "If you can't find it, call config.sys!" 216-296-2244
(1:157/479)
 SS>  Please send me a catalog at:
 SS>         Sean Seely
 SS>         Sean's Message Board
 SS>         15 Arbor Rd
 SS>         Holbrook, MA 02343
 SS>                                         Thanks,
                                                     /    /
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Sean Seely

 * Evaluation copy of Silver Xpress. Day # 3
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From: SCOTT SCHAECHER                        Number: 11405
  To: TONY WHITE                               Date: 01/30/94  4:12p
Subj: Dead CD-ROMs                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I saw your message About CD-ROMS for sale. Do you have any left? What's
wrong with them? Are they all $25?
   Please leave me a message, I'm in great need of a CD-Rom for a BBS!

Thanks,
Scott Schaecher


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From: SCOTT SCHAECHER                        Number: 11406
  To: MARK KITCHEN                             Date: 01/30/94  4:14p
Subj: Cdrom For sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you still have that CD-Rom?
If so, PLEASE let me know, I'm in great need of one for a BBS!
Thanks,
Scott Schaecher


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From: SCOTT SCHAECHER                        Number: 11407
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/30/94  4:30p
Subj: Need CD-Rom                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   I desperately need a CD-Rom. If anyone has one used-for a good price
(under $80), please let me know!!


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From: LEE GILLAN                             Number: 11408
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 02/01/94  6:56p
Subj: Re: Canadian Cd Catalogue               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 

 HB>If you would like a copy of our "Electronic Catalogue" please feel free
 HB>to request it here, or by phone or fax at (905) 830-1615.
 
 Could you please forward a copy of your "Electronic Catalogue" to me at 
 the following address when you get a chance... thanks in advance.....


 Mr. Lee Gillan
 RR#2
 Gravenhurst, Ont.
 P1P 1R2

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From: GARY ZIZKA                             Number: 11409
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/23/94  5:29p
Subj: !free cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would like a copy of that Free CD-catalog:

Send to Gary B. Zizka,Sr.
        10291 Wellinton Rd.
        Streetsboro, Ohio 44241

Thanks


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From: SEAN CREIGH                            Number: 11410
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94  7:15p
Subj: Liesure Suit Larry 6                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone know if Liesure Suit Larry is available on CD yet?
                            Larry 6 that is.
                Sean

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From: JON SIROIS                             Number: 11411
  To: DAVID RYDER                              Date: 01/31/94  7:52p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can you send me a catalog also Dave


        9609 White Hill Ct.
        Ft. Wayne, In $6804

Thanxs
/s

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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 11412
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 01/30/94 11:36p
Subj:  <-> King's Quest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Then it happened.......

DKHere's my address:


  Great, I'll send the disk out tommorrow (1 Feb). Let me know when 
it arrives, I'll do the same.

                          Mike

Mike
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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 11413
  To: STEVE KRAISLER                           Date: 01/31/94 12:08a
Subj: world and us atlas                      Refer: NONE
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Then it happened......SKI have BOTH the newest versions of Software 
Toolworks World Atlas and US 
SKATlas (version 4.0 ).  They are the windows cd's (MPC) versions with 
load
SKreal time video "flybys"  I'll sell both for 30 bucks or 17 each. 

   I'll send you 30 for both.

   If this is cool give me the address to send the $$.

  Mine is

  Mike Gervasi
  US NAS PSC 1002 Box 1174
  FPO AE 09727

  US mail please!


                                   Thanks,
                                        Mike  

Mike
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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 11414
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 02/01/94 12:20a
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >              More Than 85 Well Known BODACIOUS BEAUTIES

 > FOR USE ON YOUR BBS FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS

 > $25.00 for the first node
 > $15.00 each additional node (up to five)
 > $12.00 each additional node (up to ten)
 > $10.00 each additional node thereafter

Blaine I don't run a public bbs so I take it I'm exempt from this?

You honestly think someone is going to be stupid enough to pay $100's of
dollars to use this disk when we can buy others that aren't trying to cheat us
by paying one price one time only.

I seriosly doubt you or anyone else will make much money on this disk, if you
get burnt maybe you'll learn cheating people is out.

                                    Mike Harris

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 11415
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 02/01/94  3:21p
Subj: Pioneer's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >        ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͸
 >        ³      CD-ROM's by MEG*A*BITE       ³
 >        ³ Specializing in Pre-Owned Drive's ³
 >        ³        for your BBS world!        ³
 >        ³    Pioneer DRM-602X...$999.00     ³
 >        ³    Pioneer DRM-1804X.$1925.00     ³

Matt,
I have a question here, you state pre-owned, if I owned a 1804x what else is
better to get or is the advertisement what you sell new?

                                 Mike Harris

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 11416
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/01/94  3:24p
Subj: Amateur models                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anybody have a used copy of Amateur models they want to sell or trade?

                               Mike Harris

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 11417
  To: ROGER DAVIS                              Date: 02/01/94  9:49p
Subj: CDs to SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Roger,
    I have forgotten what cd's that you have to trade? As for adult cd's
I have So Much Stareware now and maybe FAO1 sometime soon!

                             Let me know what ya got,
                                       Sam Figueroa
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From: ROBIN HARDISON                         Number: 11418
  To: CHRISTOPHER HUGHES                       Date: 01/30/94  3:59a
Subj: Turbo DUO for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Preferably 300+ meg.

Whatcha got?


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From: MARK COHEN                             Number: 11419
  To: RAY DENALLI                              Date: 01/30/94  4:04p
Subj: RE: FLORIDA STATUTES                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I remember someone posting about Florida statutes. In the Feb. issue of
CD Rom World on page 62 its reviewed and listed for $89. Toll free # is
1 800 783-3766.

Hope this helps whoever is looking for it.


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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 11420
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/01/94  6:16p
Subj: ShareWare OnLine #3 Preor               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    !!! NOW ACCEPTING PREORDERS !!! 
 
ShareWare OnLine 3 will soon be released!  We are now 
accepting preorders.  The preorder price is $34.95 and 
as always you get FREE shipping to your door for 
preordering.  Registered users of ShareWare OnLine will 
be receiving your special order instructions by mail soon. 
 
This new disc will contain over 600 MEGS of new software. 
Many programs come directly from the author so the dupe 
rate will be low to other CDs.  The CD will be fully BBS 
ready with full multi-line file descriptions.  A master 
directory of BBS file descriptions will be included as 
well as description index files in each directory. 
 
We have updated our retrieval software to run faster 
and install easier.  You may tag, copy, view, unzip, 
and view pictures directly from the retrieval software. 
 
You may preorder your disc by telephone or send your 
order by mail to the address listed below.  Credit cards 
and checks are not cashed until we ship. 
 
Your complete satisfaction is GUARANTEED with ShareWare 
OnLine #3. 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
Orders Only: 800-768-7929   Information: 812-442-0110 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 11421
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/01/94  6:16p
Subj: Software Tool Chest Ships               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     !!! COMMING SOON FROM CMS SOFTWARE !!! 
 
We are now accepting preorders for our all new utility disc. 
"The Software Tool Chest" will be released on or about 
02-01-1994.  Look below for a sample of what this disc contains. 
If you wish to download the final description lists call the 
CMS Support BBS at 812-898-2561 anytime 24 hours.  HST 14.4 
online.  Look in file area #3 for TOOL.ZIP.  Available first call. 
 
This disc will include literally thousands of utility programs for 
just about every use you can think of.  No other collection comes 
even close this fabulous new collection.  You will find DOS and 
Windows utilities alike.  The ENTIRE LINUX operating system is 
also included on this disc.  Hundreds of programs for OS/2 are 
included.  If you have been looking for a source for networking 
software look no further.  Two full directories dedicated to 
networking.  Two directories of graphics utility programs. 
Virus protection programs are also included.  MOD music editing 
programs and music and sound players and programs.  Utilities 
for your printer and hundreds of communications and BBS utilities 
plus SO MUCH MORE. 
 
You ask why should I buy this disc?  This disc offers several 
special features not found anywhere else.  First and most im- 
portant this is the LARGEST collection of utilities you will 
find.  The disc is fully BBS ready with file descriptions in 
five formats so you will most likely be able to find a format 
suited for your needs.  If not just call us and we will convert 
one to your format.  Excellent custom file retrieval software is 
also included for the end users.  This software is very user 
friendly.  All menu driven.  Just type GO COLOR or GO MONO to 
start.  This software allows the user to tag, copy, view, unZIP, 
and even view graphics without installing them to your hard 
drive.  Preview contents or graphics before installing.  Program 
dates all the way up till the end of 1993.  No files are older 
than 1991. 
 
We are now accepting preorders.  Your check or credit card will 
not be charged until the day we ship.  In return for your pre- 
order you will get free shipping to your door.  Expected ship 
date: 02-01-1994.  Only $34.95 and free shipping! 
 
 CMS SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
BBS: 812-898-2561  Questions: 812-442-0110  Orders: 800-768-7929 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 11422
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/01/94  6:16p
Subj: CD-ROM Software Eliminati               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   CMS SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING 
                         P.O. BOX 165 
                     SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
                         812-442-0110 
 
                      Updated 02-01-1994 
 
Its a fact.  CMS is overstocked and to make room for the 
upcomming remodeling and expansion of CMS Software we MUST 
LIQUIDATE the following inventory.  Grab any of the following 
discs for $15 each, unless otherwise noted, while supplies last. 
Buy 7 and select one FREE*.  We will hold nothing back until this 
inventory is GONE.  One of some titles and hundreds of others 
but it ALL must go.  Some discs are used and most are new but 
all are guaranteed against defects.  Dealers call now for bulk 
pricing.  You may grab as many as you like and pay only $3 
shipping**.  You may place your order on Mastercard or Visa or we 
will ship your order COD for $5.00 additional.  You may mail 
your order with a personal check or money order to the address 
at the top of this ad.  * Free CD must be $15 or less.  ** A small 
insurance fee is added to each order. 
 
!!! 650+ MEG Shareware CD only $5.95 with any purchase !!! 
 
Barney Bear Goes to School 
675 MEG Windows CD-ROM          Multi-Media Bookshelf ($25) 
Barney Bear Goes to Space       Fresh Arte Clipart 
Software Vault Gold 
FontMaster                      Toolworks MM Enyc. 1.5 ($25) 
LaserTax On CD-ROM              Consumer Guide to CD-ROMs 
Clipart Goliath                 Bibles & Religion 
PC-SIG Version 11 
Black Box Shareware #4 
Black Box Shareware #2          Career Opportunities 
2000 Pictures CD-ROM 
ShareWare OnLine II 
Software Treasure Chest         Crossword Cracker 
LookUp 9 Digit ZIP Lookup ($25) 
DataBase Made Easy              Swimwear 1993 
Storm #2 ($25) 
Mother Earth II                 Fightsmart 
Adult Reference Library ($30) 
Digital Dreams #1 ($25)         Time Almanac 
Quick Art Clipart               PC Sig Library #10 
Between Heaven & Hell II        Digital Dreams #2 ($25) 
Gameware Collection             Danger Hot Stuff 
Klotski Polish Puzzles 
CAD Utility Library             Adult Picture Library #1 ($25) 
Paolo Galli Portfolio #1 ($20)  Paolo Galli Portfolio #2 ($20) 
------------------------------------------------------------ 
Grab the following titles for only $10.00 each while supplies 
last.  1 of some and 100's of others but all will surely go 
quickly so get you orders in today. 
 
Phoenix Phun & Games            Brain Drain Games 
Oldies But Goodies Games        Bed & Breakfast Photo Tour 
Mirror Mirror                   Reel Clips 
Futura Games                    Let's Play (Games) 
Variety Store (Games)           Taxprep 
Selectware Software             MPC Wizard 
PC Gameroom                     Middle East Diary 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 11423
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/01/94  6:16p
Subj: CD-ROM Software Bundles                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Look below for some great CD-ROM Software Bundles from CMS. 
All discs are IN STOCK ready for shipment. 
 
               ***** SINGLE CD PRICING ***** 
 
     600+ MEG Shareware CD only $5.95 with any purchase. 
 
Software Tool Chest - $34.95   Digital Delights (2-19) - $38.95 
ShareWare OnLine #2 - $29.95   Adult Reference Library - $37.95 
GameWare Collection - $24.95   SoundWare Collection    - $29.95 
Storm-2 Adult       - $22.95   ShareWare OnLine #3     - $34.95 (2-25) 
User's Choice Windows $29.95   A.P.L. Adult            - $37.95 
Digital Dreams 1    - $24.95   Swimwear 93             - $19.95 
Digital Dreams 2    - $28.95   Software Treasure Chest - $24.95 
 
              ***** BUNDLED CD PRICING ***** 
 
User's Choice Windows          SoundWare Collection 
ShareWare OnLine #2            GameWare Collection 
Software Treasure Chest        ShareWare OnLine #2 
    $49.95                         $49.95 
 
ShareWare OnLine #2            Digital Dreams #2 
SoundWare Collection           A.P.L. Adult 
GameWare Collection            Adult Reference Library 
User's Choice Windows          Digital Dreams #1 
Software Treasure Chest        Storm-2 Adult 
Software Tool Chest                $119.95 
    $139.95 
 
                               User's Choice Windows 
Software Treasure Chest        ShareWare OnLine #2 
ShareWare OnLine #2            A.P.L. Adult 
    $39.95                     Storm-2 
                                   $74.95 
 
Storm-2 Adult                  Storm-2 Adult 
A.P.L. Adult                   Adult Reference Library 
    $49.95                     A.P.L. Adult 
                                   $69.95 
 
Adult Reference Library        A.P.L. Adult 
Storm-2 Adult                  Adult Reference Library 
Digital Dreams #2                  $54.95 
    $69.95 
                               ShareWare OnLine #2 
A.P.L./User's Choice           A.P.L. Adult 
    $44.95                         $44.95 
 
CMS accepts Visa & Mastercard, check, M.O., and COD orders. 
$5.00 standard shipping on any order.  These prices are in 
effect for a short time only.  Get your orders sent TODAY! 
CMS does accept your trades!  PUBLISHERS: Call us to trade 
your titles for ours!  Last updated: 01-30-1994. 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
TELEPHONE: 812-442-0110 
 
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From: AUDIE VICKERS                          Number: 11424
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/01/94  9:39p
Subj: NEC CDR-36 DRIVES                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF>>BTW... the 36's are double speed drives ???

BF> Older single-speed external drives.

  I missed the original post.  How much??


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From: AUDIE VICKERS                          Number: 11425
  To: BRYAN COTTER                             Date: 02/01/94 10:09p
Subj: A.P.L. CD for trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BC>Who's got an R-rated (no X) Adult CD for trade for this copy of A.P.L. (Adul
BC>Picture Library)??  Let me know here or call 615-356-1967...

  How about "Busty Babes II"??  There's one directory with some X stuff
  in it (27 files), but it's mostly swimsuit, topless, nude, pink.  All
  1024x768x256, and a bunch of shareware.


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From: AUDIE VICKERS                          Number: 11426
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/01/94 10:18p
Subj: CD Catalog                              Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

  Hey Mike,
  Could you send a catalog to:

  Mike Nunn
  2768 U.K. Circle
  Winter Park, Fl.  32742

  He just got a CD Rom for his computer, and doesn't have any idea where
  to buy CDs, or what's even out there, and I didn't want to part with
  the list you sent me <g>.

  Thanks in advance.

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 11427
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 02/02/94  1:49a
Subj: Re: Flame? anybody seen i               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to Lee Noga <01-25-94 17:41> Max Green wrote:
MG>>   smart marketing on your part.  Sooooooo where are the biker girls?
MG>>   Oh yea, Happy New Year.

Working on them round the clock--Neat disc, and a niche one at that. Tough
choice between the love for bikes and the woman in the pix :)

Hope your holidays were nice ! Mine were great--

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-  
 
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From: DUSTY JAMES                            Number: 11428
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/01/94  9:59a
Subj: cd disk drive?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hey!..first thing is I don't know what to call what I need...<G> (no female
jokes please!)...I want an internal cd rom drive (?)...can't afford a new
one...we homeschool our 2 boys and I have included computer studies as part of
their curriculum...we would like to have the encyclopedia and history cd's as
part of the studies...there are soooo many learning cds out there...if anyone
could offer information we would appreciate it...I have a 486/sx...it has an
open slot for a 5.25 disk drive...have the sound blaster fx card...does this
help?


Dusty

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From: JOSE VISBAL                            Number: 11429
  To: BRIAN KELLER                             Date: 02/04/94  9:33p
Subj: Re: GAMES FOR SALE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Brian Keller to Jose Visbal <=-

 BK> Its practically brand new only taken out off the case 4 times
 BK> has every thing even the registration card. would have to
 BK> sell it for $24.00 because several other people are intiresed.

HI,
for the life of me i can't remember which game it is....
can you please tell me which one it was...
and leave me a phone number where i can call you if i am still
interested in the game...


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From: HANS FELSH                             Number: 11430
  To: JERRY ZELLER                             Date: 02/04/94 12:47a
Subj: Re: MISC FOR SALE                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Jerry Zeller to Hans Felsh <=-

 JZ> Hans - interested in the compaq vga monitor.  How much for it?  Does
 JZ> it have  the standard D15 connector?  Jerry

 yes it does. but you can't buy it unless you buy the whole system. i will
 not sell parts - no one really wants a parted out 286 these days... anyway,
 i have "almost" closed a deal on that system...if it is not sold by the end
 of the month, then a local man has promised to buy it.

... "DOS=HIGH" Hmm, I knew it was on something...
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From: STEVE PHILLIPS                         Number: 11431
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/04/94  2:58p
Subj: CD ROM for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


Mitsumi CRMC-LU002S Single Speed Internal CD ROM
150 kb/sec sustained data transfer rate

includes interface card, cables and user manual.

with the following CD's:

   STW Multimedia Encyclopedia ver 1.5 (Grolier)
   US Atlas ver 1.5 (includes AutoMap)
   The Time Table of History (Science & Innovation)

Drive has been used very little, in excellent condition.

*********** Asking $120 ****************

       Steve Phillips
leave message netmail or call 704-845-6054

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From: LEE NICHOLS                            Number: 11432
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/04/94  2:03p
Subj: CD's Sale r Trade                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have 3 CD's that I got about the same time I got my first ROM and now find
them to be unuseful. I would be willing to trade them for educational, BBS
ready shareware, or adult titles.

The CIA world fact book +750 programs
The Secret of Monkey Island
Winware Volume 3

Lee

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From: GREG GILETTO                           Number: 11433
  To: ALAN EVANS                               Date: 01/27/94 10:20p
Subj: Re: All New Adult CD-ROM                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Alan Evans to All <=- 
 
 AE> ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW ! NEW !  
 
 AE> The A.P.L. CD-ROM!  
 
Will this CD work OK with the single speed Mitsumi (model # LU005) 
150kbs 300ms 16k cache. 
 
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 11434
  To: NOAH DARBY                               Date: 02/03/94 10:06p
Subj: Re: Rules, etc.                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 ND> Do I hear the sense of sarcasm in this post?  If 
 ND> not then I really like this
 ND> place. :)
 
Just consider it one man's opinion.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 11435
  To: DOUG MCCLELLAN                           Date: 02/03/94 10:10p
Subj: backorders                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a Seedy Rom #2, brand new, left in stock your welcome to for $22.95. 
Give us a call at PCJ at 615-339-0235 if interested.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 11436
  To: BERNIE JARZABEK                          Date: 02/03/94 10:11p
Subj: CD Changer                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BJ> I'm looking for a 3 to 6 cd changer for my bbs.   Need at least
 BJ> 300kbs speed.  If anyone has any ideas or comments on what to buy
 BJ> I'd appreciate hearing them.
 
We sell a couple of choices in the Pioneer line you might be interested in. 
Their new 602X is out that is 300+ kb transfer rate and it is $839 bare or $919
with 8 bit SCSI kit.  There is also the 604X which has been out for a year now
that is quadra speed, or 616 kb transfer rate and is $1039 bare or 1119 with 8
bit SCSI kit.  All prices are plus shipping and reflect a 3% cash discount. 
Give us a call at PCJ at 615-339-0235 if we can be of service.  We also carry
all of the latest shareware CDs and sell over 700 titles and some of the lowest
prices around.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 11437
  To: ANDY PLANK                               Date: 02/03/94 10:16p
Subj: ***BBS SHAREWARE CD'S WANTED***         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We sell all the latest shareware CDROMs.  Give us a call at 615-339-0235 for
some great choices and some great prices.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 11438
  To: JAMES BRADLEY                            Date: 02/03/94 10:18p
Subj: Top Drawer Stats      2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JB> You gave us all the details but the $$.
 
You can order here and shipped right away from PCJ for $19 plus shipping.
Orders only (no catalogs or inquiries) 800-547-7817 9-9 EST.  We accept all
major credit cards with no surcharges.
 
 JB> And at what speed you run. I'm too lazy to look it up. (-;=
 
If you'd like to order it electronically, you can open DOOR 15 on our BBS and
do so:  9600 HST - 615-478-2890 or  14400 - 615-479-1047.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 11439
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/03/94 10:21p
Subj: Best New $19 SHAREWARE CDROM Stats      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

File stats for the BEST NEW SHAREWARE CD-TOP DRAWER for 1990 to 1994:
 
    File   %    Apx  'K'   %            File   %    Apx 'K'    %
    ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== =====
90     0  0.0%         0  0.0%    91       1  0.0%       100  0.0%
92     6  0.1%     2,380  0.4%    93   3,968 95.1%   558,536 91.6%
94   144  4.8%    48,607  8.0%          ==== =====  ======== =====
 
----  Total Files:  4,174   Total Approx 'K' Bytes:  609,523  ----
 
Duplicate Files Comparison - Top Drawer versus other popular CDs:
 
Big Sky 1 - 0%                  So Much Shareware # 3 - 2.4%
Cream of the Crop # 2 - 11.7%   Software Vault Gold (# 3) - 10.3%
Nightowl 10 - 12.4%             Call PCJ at 615-339-0235 if you
Nightowl 11 - 6.4%              need a file comparison with any
Pier 3 - 15.3%                  of the other popular CDROMs.
 
$19 from PCJ.  Orders 800-547-7817  Inquiries 615-339-0235
 

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 11440
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/01/94  6:48p
Subj: MEGAMIX CD-ROM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the newest from Wizardware, Megamix CD-ROM.  All the programs can be run
directly from the cd, and require no installation.  There are over 150 games
alone available on the disk, along with animations, utilities and full color
photographs.  I would like to trade this disc for a newer adult or shareware
disc.  No more than 6 months old or so.

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From: BRIAN KELLER                           Number: 11441
  To: RICK AURAS                               Date: 02/03/94  4:43p
Subj: ***GAMES FOR SALE***                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi here is my address 68 sarah bishop rd,ridgefield ct 06877 Bye

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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 11442
  To: BOB HALL                                 Date: 02/03/94  1:20p
Subj: E-O-T Request!                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Bob -

PLEASE take whatever steps may be necessary to end the threads between
David Vangelder, Lee Noga, and various respondants in this echo!

Ms. Noga at first politely requested, on numerous occasions, that these
irritating and excessively LONG threads be dropped.  This has proven to
be to no avail.  These messages have, at this point, become pseudo-legal
threats.  SysOps WORLD-WIDE are paying to carry this trash!

                                           - Arnie Gross

cc: Tim Helton (Co-moderator)


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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 11443
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 02/03/94  1:20p
Subj: E-O-T Request!                          Refer: NONE
Read: 02/06/94  8:42a                       Private: No 

Bob -

PLEASE take whatever steps may be necessary to end the threads between
David Vangelder, Lee Noga, and various respondants in this echo!

Ms. Noga at first politely requested, on numerous occasions, that these
irritating and excessively LONG threads be dropped.  This has proven to
be to no avail.  These messages have, at this point, become pseudo-legal
threats.  SysOps WORLD-WIDE are paying to carry this trash!

                                           - Arnie Gross

cc: Tim Helton (Co-moderator)




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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 11444
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 02/03/94  1:36p
Subj: Re: Top Drawer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jim -

On 27 Jan 94, you wrote:

   JL> Title              1990    1991    1992    1993    Files   Megs

   JL> Top Drawer #1       0.0     0.1     0.5    96.5    4146    592 '94+

On 3 Feb 94, Daniel Martin (co-publisher of Top Drawer) wrote:

Totals:  76,888,575 bytes

Who's right? <g>

                                                  - Arnie :+}

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From: TOM COTTON                             Number: 11445
  To: GARY ERICKSON                            Date: 02/03/94 11:08a
Subj: Re: Genealogy CD's Wanted               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GRS
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From: TOM COTTON                             Number: 11446
  To: GARY ERICKSON                            Date: 02/03/94 11:47a
Subj: Re: Genealogy CD's Wanted               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Gary, I have a few GRS (Genealogical Research Systems) CD's which come 
from the Salt Lake City Area.  They range from 55 to 100 dollars 
depending on what is on the CD.  You can rent them for around 15 plus 
shipping but my problem is that my research is so erratic I may have them 
a month and not look at them at all.  They have census indexes, linked 
pedigrees, some Texas Census now, Marriages, Death Records, SS records. 
It is the only company I know of that produces the CD's. I was told they 
are the same company that produces the CD's for the Mormon Church. 
        I recently purchased a CD that has Land Grant indexes for AR 
from the Bureau of Land Management.  It was only 25 and has a good deal 
of information on the CD and for thirteen cents a sheet you can get the 
original documents.  The Census on CD is great. I don't have any of 
them but they make for some very quick and clean research.  I used one a 
friend had and it was great.  If you would like the phone number for GRS 
I will post it for you next week. TC in TXK. 
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From: TOM COTTON                             Number: 11447
  To: GARY ERICKSON                            Date: 02/03/94  2:48p
Subj: Re: Genealogy CD's Wanted               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Gary, I have a few GRS (Genealogical Research Systems) CD's which come 
from the Salt Lake City Area.  They range from 55 to 100 dollars 
depending on what is on the CD.  You can rent them for around 15 plus 
shipping but my problem is that my research is so erratic I may have them 
a month and not look at them at all.  They have census indexes, linked 
pedigrees, some Texas Census now, Marriages, Death Records, SS records. 
It is the only company I know of that produces the CD's. I was told they 
are the same company that produces the CD's for the Mormon Church. 
        I recently purchased a CD that has Land Grant indexes for AR 
from the Bureau of Land Management.  It was only 25 and has a good deal 
of information on the CD and for thirteen cents a sheet you can get the 
original documents.  The Census on CD is great. I don't have any of 
them but they make for some very quick and clean research.  I used one a 
friend had and it was great.  If you would like the phone number for GRS 
I will post it for you next week. TC in TXK. 
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ MSI - Redefining Telecommunications in '93 
 - JetMail v1.14 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire
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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 11448
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/04/94  6:18p
Subj: Comptons's Int Ency                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have (2) Comptons's Interactive Encyclopedia's for sale.  These are the
windows version 1.01VW.  My price is $35 + P&H.  reply back soon, I do not
think these will last very long!!!!!!!



Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11449
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/29/94 12:41a
Subj: GET A FREE CD!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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     3.1 in a multimedia relational database, with SVGA color pictures
     of titles & screen shots, with motion, sound, and musical tracks
     from some of the leading CD titles today!

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     THIS CD-ROM REFERENCE HAS MORE LISTINGS THAN IT'S TWO COMPETITORS
                    WHICH COST HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS EACH!

     This outstanding reference tool has the standard info on each title,
     including publisher, price, addresses, etc., plus a large number of
     critical reviews to give you an in-depth knowledge of just what the
     title is about.  If you are thinking about buying ANY CD-ROM's in
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From: BERNIE SCHAU                           Number: 11450
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 01/29/94  3:57p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Terry Blount to all <=-

 TB> Caddies                         $  5   each.
 TB> External cases  for 4 drives    $ 20
 TB> External cases  for 8 drives    $ 30

Hi Terry...  Any idea of when you will receive or ship the 4
drive cases?  I had purchased the complete 4 drive setup from you
and did receive all but the case.

Later...   Bernie


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From: JOSE VISBAL                            Number: 11451
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/29/94 10:07p
Subj: CD-Rom Game Trade                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have :

Curse of Enchantia
By Virgin Games
makers of The 7th Guest

Would like to trade.... or sell...
looking for.... Maniac mansion  Day of the Tenticle..
or let me know what you may have...
reply here...

... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 11452
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/28/94  4:53p
Subj: Top Drawer Stats      1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Top Drawer will be released any day now for a mere $19.00.  I have been 
working with the file lists, accumulating stats.  I am very pleased with 
the file lists.  The producers didn't hold back here!  Every file has a 
very complete description, and there is a file_id.diz in every archive. 
 
The following is a list of each file area and its contents: 
 
  1-Applications                        has    63 files in  15997193 bytes 
  2-Banner/Label Programs & Forms       has    25 files in   3515446 bytes 
  3-Business Accounting & Finance       has   104 files in  25399144 bytes 
  4-Benchmarks/Virus/Diagnostics Aids  has    63 files in   7320366 bytes 
  5-Batch/Boot/Event Utilities          has    26 files in   1595654 bytes 
  6-C.A.D. & C.A.M.                     has   103 files in  18077003 bytes 
  7-Communications Programs             has    80 files in  12351707 bytes 
  8-Comm Protocols & Modem Setups       has    44 files in   3941638 bytes 
  9-Compression Programs                has    55 files in   6072341 bytes 
 10-DataBase Programs                   has    69 files in  17295731 bytes 
 11-Desktop/Desktop Pub/Spreadsheets    has    17 files in   3221633 bytes 
 12-DOS Utilities                       has   179 files in  14074060 bytes 
 13-GAMES and Educational Programs      has   365 files in  76315800 bytes 
 14-Graphic Programs & Utilities        has    80 files in   9481809 bytes 
 15-Graphics/Animations/Raytraced       has    26 files in   5368421 bytes 
 16-Ham Radio/Shortwave Listening       has    93 files in  15695128 bytes 
 17-Handicapped Aids & Utilities        has    12 files in   1409230 bytes 
 18-Home & Personal Computing & Humor   has   108 files in  17143570 bytes 
 19-Home Recipes / Health / Medicine    has    30 files in   4198633 bytes 
 20-LANs/Multitask/Nets/AltOperatingSys has    77 files in  14132417 bytes 
 21-Menu Programs & Shells              has    37 files in   5179932 bytes 
 22-OffLine Mail Readers                has    51 files in   8905739 bytes 
 23-OS/2(tm) Files / Programs           has   233 files in  34110248 bytes 
 24-Patches & UnProtects                has    74 files in   9560616 bytes 
 25-Printer Helps / Drivers /Utilities  has    61 files in   7648704 bytes 
 26-Speaker & SB & AdLib & Midi Utils   has    12 files in   2211023 bytes 
 27-Religion & Genealogy Programs       has   101 files in  12080974 bytes 
 28-WordProcessing & Text Editors       has    67 files in   7900261 bytes 
 29-Win Communications                  has    26 files in   5191920 bytes 
 30-Win Desktop / Editors / Fonts       has    87 files in  12752918 bytes 
 31-Win Drivers                         has    14 files in   3920702 bytes 
 32-Win Games / Sound Utilities         has    72 files in  10276459 bytes 
 33-Win Home & Personal                 has    79 files in  16611588 bytes 
 34-Win Icons BMP's & Screen Apps       has    21 files in   5012270 bytes 
 35-Windows NT(tm)                      has    18 files in   2080386 bytes 
 36-Win Utilities and Help files        has   184 files in  26012861 bytes 
 37-Windows(tm) Demo                    has    14 files in   6026718 bytes 
 38-Outerware(tm) - Original Images     has   121 files in  34629332 bytes 
 39-Feature Authors and Unique Releases has    35 files in  10364486 bytes 
 40-BBS Door Programs                   has   309 files in  46570628 bytes 
 41-BBS Utilities                       has   507 files in  35141889 bytes 
 42-BBS Software Packages               has    57 files in  21106603 bytes 
 43-RIP Icons/Buttons/Screens/Utilities has    91 files in   5721549 bytes 
 44-PCBoard(tm) [PPE] BBS Extensions    has   185 files in   2863025 bytes 
 45-BBS Network Info Pak & Starter Kits has    71 files in   1849664 bytes 
 
 
Now for the file dates.  Please note that the handful of files dated 
before 1993 are programs such as Wildcat test drive, which simply has 
not been updated since then. The files were carefully hand picked. 
 
 
File stats for 1992 and 1993: 
 
92  File   %    Apx 'K'    %        93  File   %    Apx 'K'    % 
==  ==== =====  ======== =====      ==  ==== =====  ======== ===== 
 
 1     1  0.0%       497  0.1%       1    98  2.3%    11,263  1.8% 
 2     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       2    80  1.9%     9,835  1.6% 
 3     1  0.0%        91  0.0%       3   107  2.6%    15,767  2.6% 
 4     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       4   188  4.5%    23,597  3.9% 
 5     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       5   524 12.6%    57,414  9.4% 
 6     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       6   663 15.9%    89,775 14.7% 
 7     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       7   610 14.6%    88,431 14.5% 
 8     0  0.0%         0  0.0%       8   502 12.0%    75,817 12.4% 
 9     2  0.0%       797  0.1%       9   306  7.3%    37,962  6.2% 
10     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      10   166  4.0%    24,576  4.0% 
11     0  0.0%         0  0.0%      11   191  4.6%    39,764  6.5% 
12     2  0.0%       995  0.2%      12   533 12.8%    84,335 13.8% 
    ---- -----  -------- -----          ---- -----  -------- ----- 
       6  0.1%     2,380  0.4%         3,968 95.1%   558,536 91.6% 
    ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== ===== 
 
File stats for 1994: 
 
92  File   %    Apx 'K'    % 
==  ==== =====  ======== ===== 
 1   199  4.8%    49,669  8.0% 
    ==== =====  ======== ===== 
 
There are 199 files dated from 1-1-94 through 1-16-94 for a total 
of 49,669,386 bytes! 
 
 
----  Total Files:  4,174    Total Approx 'K' Bytes:   609,523  ---- 
 
 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 11453
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/28/94  4:53p
Subj: Top Drawer Stats      2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

(Continued from previous message) 
 
Well, these are the facts. It's a great disc, and you can preview it 
online the Computer Works BBS.  The file list is available for download 
as TOPDRWR.ZIP. We are accepting online orders using Visa/Mastercard & 
COD. 
 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
 
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From: KEITH LOONEY                           Number: 11454
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 01/29/94  4:04p
Subj: busty babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ken, just letting you know that I got the disc today (Saturday). Guess
I'll have to stock up on the visine to get the red out! 8)

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From: DAN PROCIV                             Number: 11455
  To: GREG MUNDA                               Date: 01/30/94 11:43a
Subj: Penthouse CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Greg,

I didn't see the program you speak of, however I do have a Penthouse CD
which may be the one you are seeking. It is called "Penthouse
Interactive", Virtual Photo Shoot. In this interactive CD, you are a
Penthouse photographer. Take & view photos. Save images to disk. Print,
view & update customized contact sheets. Over 90 minutes of full-motion
digital video to explore. Every shoot is unique. 3 beautiful Penthouse
pets. Windows & Mac versions. 11/93.

Currently on sale here at The CD-Machine for $109.00. We have over 200
adult CD's available and over 750 CD's total ready for shipping. We can
be reached in the following ways:

 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<   THE CD-MACHINE   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
                    P.O. BOX 13304
                     PORTLAND, OR
                     97213-0304
              (503)236-4969 VOICE / FAX
      (503)236-0269 / (503)236-3266  BBS 14.4 LINES

We offer Online Ordering, and you may also download the latest updated
catalog here, anytime. Just request "CDS4SALE.ZIP" while you visit.

<<<<<  Giant CD-ROM Catalog available for shipping at request  >>>>>>


  Call us and "Find out why everyone is talking about THE CD-MACHINE"
              GREAT PRICES AND EXCELLENT SERVICE!!


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From: DAN PROCIV                             Number: 11456
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 01/30/94 11:52a
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES -New R               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Scott,

We have Bodacious Beauties available for shipping now! Sale price is
$39.00 plus shipping. You may order anytime using the following methods:

Mail order to:         THE CD-MACHINE
                       P.O. BOX 13304
                       PORTLAND, OR
                       97213-0304

Order voice / fax:     (503)236-4969 7 days 24 hours
Order Online BBS:      (503)236-3266 14.4 Line
                       (503)236-0269 14.4 Line

Shipping is $4.00 UPS Ground / $6.00 2-day Air.

Hope this helps!

Dan


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 11457
  To: T. CURTIS                                Date: 01/23/94  2:02p
Subj: For Sale or Trade: Man Enough           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <17 Jan 94  04:13:10>, T. Curtis (1:387/31.23) writes:
 > RD> I will offer Women of Venus + $10 or $30 total for Man Enough.
 >  What is WoV? Thanks!
Woemn of Venus is a really nice Swimsuit Cd with lots of women modelling
swimsuit. All of the pictures are very hi-res. It has sound and will work in
Dos or Windows.


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From: JEREMY JOHNSON                         Number: 11458
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/29/94 10:52p
Subj: Programing CD                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone want to buy "The C Users' Group Library"?  It is the newest
version (december 1993).  I have used it once, and I'm asking for $30
(shipping included) [or best offer].

Jeremy


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From: NATHAN MOSCHKIN                        Number: 11459
  To: SCOTT CARTIER                            Date: 01/30/94 12:54a
Subj: CD MUSIC FILES (.MOD)                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* Thursday January 27 1994, Scott Cartier writes to All:

 SC>         I was wondering if anyone knew of any CD's out there with alot
 SC> of .MOD sound files. I have seen some with a smattering of them in the
 SC> sound directory but are mostly shareware programs. If anyone knows of a

The Ultimate MOD collection.  It's FULL of MODs and 669s.

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 11460
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/29/94 11:36a
Subj: CD-ROM DISKS for sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


CD-ROMS for Sale

7th Guest ......................................  $49
Nautilus June 1993 Volume 3-6 Windows Edition ..  $12
TestDrive Windows Fall 1993 ....................  $11
Multimedia Audubon Mammals .....................  $18
Great Cities Volume 2 ..........................  $18
Interactive Storytime Volume 1 .................  $18
TimeTable of History ...........................  $18
Software Options CD from IBM ...................  $13
Calculus (Anton) 1st 3 chapters ................  $18
Loom ...........................................  $20
Tax-Prep 1993 ..................................  $10
CD-ROM Premier ................................. SOLD
Time Almanac 1990 ..............................  $10
World Atlas ....................................  $18
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $59
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $ 9
Made in the USA - Fourth edition ...............  $12
Sneek Peeks from Sierra ........................ SOLD
Phoenix-CD Version 3.0 .........................  $12
Chessmaster 3000 ...............................  $22

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ P.O. Box 209 Marlton NJ 08053-0209


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From: TROY JOHNSON                           Number: 11461
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/30/94  9:08a
Subj: Bad Trade with Jason Klan               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Hello TROY!

> 29 Jan 94 09:35, TROY JOHNSON wrote to Jason Klank:

>> Jason, I have been very patient with you, I do not understand why you
> will
>> not send me the drive that you owe me.  We made a deal and I sent you
> the
>> Pioneer without getting the 2nd drive, you said "NO PROBLEM". Well
> there
>> seems to be a problem.  Please give me a call at 702 459 8862

>> I have not sent any messages at all to you via Fido like most other
> people
>> do.   Please give me a call right away

> And last I talked with you I informed you that I would need the bad 1G
> drive
> so I could exchange it for the drive I am going to get from you.  I ha
> not heard nor seen anything since.

> Also, the DRM-600 you sent me was bad.  The CD's would mount fine, but
> the drive will not read them.  So, I have to send it off for repair.
> Now, if you wish, we can cancel the whole deal and I can send you your
> bad drive back and you can send me my two drives back.

> My new address is:

> 68C Pinecroft Dr.
> Taylors, SC  29687

> Let me know which way you want to do things.  I don't know how much it
> going to cost me to get the broken DRM fixed.

> Jason
Well pardner, all I can tell you is that you are doing something wrong. 
If you are daisy chaining them, you have to take the terminators out
of one of them.  The drive has worked flawlessly since I had it. It
makes me wonder why are selling a used DRM600A in the net, is that the
broken one?

I will not accept back a broken drive, it was working fine. I will
keep what I have and you keep what you have. But I will be sending out
a echo mail letter announcing what has transpired. I would have never
sent out a drive that did not work to anyone.  I had to pull 6 of the
12 CD's off line to send that drive to you. So I do not believe for a
second that it did not work. You told me yourself that it worked fine!

You never sent me a E-mail stating that you needed the other drive back.
I will chalk it up as a deal about 50% bad, I got screwed but that is
life.

But, Jason do not think for a second you are going to try and make it
look like you got the raw end of the deal.

Troy Johnson
Sysop, Real Pro BBS
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From: LOUIS SOKOL                            Number: 11462
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 01/30/94 12:41a
Subj: NEC 3XI Triple Speed                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JP> I am looking for pricing on brand new NEC 3XI triple speed SCSI CDROM
JP> internal drives.

I have the NEC 3Xi triple speed CD drives (bare) for $449 while my present
supply lasts.  Add $10 for shipping = total of $459.00
(If this shipped to a Texas address, the total including sales tax will be
$494.58)  Checks and money orders accepted. 

JET Computer Services, 713/265-1010 voice
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From: CHRIS LILLY                            Number: 11463
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 01/30/94  1:35p
Subj: Pioneer Drm 600                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a Courier Dual Standard 16.8 W/Fax , External , Small
Footprint That I would like to trade for your Pioneer Drm 600.. Please Give me
a call at 1-303-429-9359 thx!! 
P.s. I will be willing to throw in some cash if needed.. thx!

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From: STEVE KRAISLER                         Number: 11464
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/30/94  6:23p
Subj: world and us atlas                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have BOTH the newest versions of Software Toolworks World Atlas and US ATlas
(version 4.0 ).  They are the windows cd's (MPC) versions with loads of real
time video "flybys"  I'll sell both for 30 bucks or 17 each.  You pay shipping.

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From: JUSTIN TURY                            Number: 11465
  To: MIKE GERVASI                             Date: 01/22/94  2:56p
Subj: Cd's for trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Will you sell any of these?

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From: JUSTIN TURY                            Number: 11466
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/22/94  2:59p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICES pt 2                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Can I arrange an order through this message base?

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From: CHARLES DECKER                         Number: 11467
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/23/94  7:10a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
JR>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get ourNEW catalog...
JR>If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.

Could you send me a copy of your CD Catalog

Charles Decker
145 W 795 N
Fremont , In 46737

 
* OLX 2.1 TD * The price of feathers has risen , now even down is up
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From: CHARLES DECKER                         Number: 11468
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 01/23/94  7:54a
Subj: Canadian CD Catalogue                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HB>If you would like a copy of our "Electronic Catalogue" please feel free
HB>to request it here, or by phone or fax at (905) 830-1615.

HB>Thanks again!

Could you please send me a copy of your Electronic Catalogue

Charles Decker
145 W 795 N
Fremont ,In 46737
 
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From: CHARLES DECKER                         Number: 11469
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 01/23/94  7:57a
Subj: Storm I,ii,ii + Ecstasy H INT           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DK> I have the Adult Cd's Storm I,Storm II,Storm III and Ecstasy Hot Pic's
DK>for Sale or Trade for Non-adult Cd's.
DK> ** Only Adults need reply **


How much do you want for Storm II and III ?

 
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From: ANDY PLANK                             Number: 11470
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94 10:11p
Subj: ***BBS SHAREWARE CD'S WANTED***         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for bbs ready shareware cd roms. Used or new. I need a price list.
Interested in buying 2-10 cd's. I also have Wing Commander II Special Deluxe
Edition for the cd rom that i would be willing to trade for a bbs shareware
disk. Good deal eh'. I also have Macromedia action 2.0 and AutorWare Star for
the cd rom that i would trade for used or new bbs cd rom disks. I will pay
between 15-50 dollars so just let me know the prices and what you have. You can
reach me on Compuserve at---73663,2604. or my home phone at 267-5389. Ask for
Andy. The area code for that phone # is 219-267-5389. Sorry. I am eager to get
them. BTW-they are for a new bbs coming Summer '94-CyberRealms. Thanks!

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From: ARNOLD SPARKS                          Number: 11471
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/25/94  4:17p
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=>Joe Said To All<=-01-11-94  06:46 
 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!************* 
 JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog... 
 JR>  ! Origin: "If you can't find it, call config.sys!" 216-296-2244 
 JR> (1:157/479) 
      Please send a copy to: 
                  Arnold Sparks 
                  17571 Lesure 
                  Det. MI. 48235-2621 
 
 
... "People who won't stand up for anything will fall for everything" 
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From: JUSTIN TURY                            Number: 11472
  To: SYSTEM OPERATOR                          Date: 01/25/94  4:40p
Subj: Mostly games, sale or trade             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting System Operator to All dated 01-14-94 ***
> 2 copies   Aldus Photo Styler S.E.         CD-ROM   $25.
>            Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe CD-ROM   $20.
>            The Secret of Monkey Island     CD-ROM   $20.
>            LOOM                            CD-ROM   $20.
>            Software ToolWorks Multimedia
>              Encyclopedia v 1.0            CD-ROM   $30.
>            ProPhone 93 v 2.0   7disc set.           $50.
Can you describe these, please?

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From: JUSTIN TURY                            Number: 11473
  To: BRIAN KELLER                             Date: 01/25/94  4:44p
Subj: GAMES FOR SALE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Kings Quest 6 $20.00 

I would like to purchase that. MAYBE! Can I get it for $15.00? THANX

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From: JUSTIN TURY                            Number: 11474
  To: TIM SHEEHAN                              Date: 01/25/94  4:45p
Subj: HEY                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TS>  TONS of sierra games
Which ones? Are any for sale?

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From: TOM CAUSLEY                            Number: 11475
  To: ANTHONY FURGISON                         Date: 02/01/94 10:18a
Subj: CD-ROM READERS FOR SALE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Boy why buy a 1503 for that price. Can pick up a 3600 from MEGAROM fo
->
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Anthony,
3600 are nice drives, thats what I replaced the 1503's with. Butt
$99.00... I think you got takin, better check around...

Tom


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From: STEVE O'BRIEN                          Number: 11476
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/28/94  8:27p
Subj: WANTED MPCollection ADULT CD            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TO ALL:

<<<<<<<<<<<<  WANTED  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

MY Private COLLECTION Volume I

TAKE FOR $25 COD
Please call 215/533-3190 ask for Steve or leave a message with you number. 
Please call need quickly! NO TRADES available!

Steve

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From: MICHAEL HAJOVSKY                       Number: 11477
  To: DOUG VANVLEET                            Date: 01/31/94  2:22p
Subj: CD CHANGER                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Doug Vanvleet to All <=-

 DV> Hello im looking for a cheap cd changer.

Hire a college student <G>

 
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From: JOHN TRIMBACK                          Number: 11478
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/01/94 10:11p
Subj: CD ROM RECORDER                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking to buy a NEW or slightly used CD ROM RECORDER so if anyone has
one for sale with info & $$ please leave me email or leave a message
for me on my answering machine
John
215-634-4621


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From: CHARLES STRUSZ @ 970/201               Number: 11479
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/01/94 11:45p
Subj: Non dos cd's for dos mach               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@SUBJECT:NON DOS CD'S FOR DOS MACHINES                               N I'd like
to put some MAC and AMIGA files online for my BBS users.

Can anyone suggest a couple of titles that I can shovel into my DOS clone bbs
server and let the users drain files off of?


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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 11480
  To: JEREMY JOHNSON                           Date: 02/01/94  6:47a
Subj: Programing CD                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JJ>Anyone want to buy "The C Users' Group Library"?  It is the newest
JJ>version (december 1993).  I have used it once, and I'm asking for $30
JJ>(shipping included) [or best offer].

I'll give you twenty bucks for it.


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From: KAMAL HAFFAR                           Number: 11481
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 02/01/94 10:13p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Crop II - $50.00

 > ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES
 > 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Just for your information, your 800 number is not accessible from Canada, at
least not from Ontario.

Kamal
 >  * Origin: Buggie Works Via Satellite (216)225-6130
 > (1:157/46)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11482
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 01/31/94 11:20p
Subj: 3 NEW WAYS TO PAY!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC:>-> Did indeed, and glad to hear it finally arrived.  All shipments to
DC:>-> California have been spotty lately.

DC:>You mean shaky, don't you?  <g>

Yes, exactly.......just like my knees after experiencing that sucker first
hand.  The most stable thing about that trip to L.A. was the plane ride. I
didn't need my Dramamine until we were on the ground!  8)

.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11483
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 01/31/94 11:20p
Subj: Flame? anybody seen it??                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

LN:>DR>>  LN> Why would you even question if I was attempting circumvent the
LN:>DR>>  LN> laws overseas ? Explain.

LN:>DR>> Just giving you a hard time......

LN:><wink>.....Das' OK, I guess I have established I have thick skin !

Don't take any smack from him Lee!  I know Dave, and believe me, you could
EASILY put him across your knee and paddle some manners into him if need
be. <g>

.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11484
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 01/31/94 11:21p
Subj: J. ALLEN aka MICHAEL MANN               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DR:> JA> Are these the same Nite Owl disks your selling that you keep saying
are
DR:> JA> good or some other Nite Owl disks?

DR:>They are the same Night Owl discs that MANY of us keep saying are "no
good,"

Dave,

Don't worry about him.  It's just Michael Mann using a false name.  Guess
he still thinks I had something to do with his firing at Free Spirit.
(he he)  You wouldn't believe how many confederates and "goons" he's had
calling me, trying to get me to slip up so he can publicize it. It's all
old hat to me now..........<yawn>

DR:>Nice try, though.

Not really......he's done some in the past that border on being clever.

Later,
.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11485
  To: DAVID SARGEANT                           Date: 01/31/94 11:21p
Subj: Shareware                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DS:>I'm looking for a couple of good shareware CD-ROMs for about $10 each.
DS:>Anybody have any?

David,

We have the Shareware Overload Trio, which is a 3-CD set of all 1993 files
priced at $21.90.  That comes out to $7.30 per CD.  How's that?  Also,
you can get the Powerbox 1 for $6 with any order, which is a full 650mb
of mostly 1992 files.  Lastly, we sell the PC SIG 11 for $10.60.  If any
of these interest you, give me a shout.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.00


 * SLMR 2.1a * I used to have a life. Now I have Windows.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11486
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 01/31/94 11:21p
Subj: Your Annoying                           Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

DV:>LN>> Happy trails,

DV:>This is the last post that I will write to you directly. I am too busy
DV:>trying to produce the best quality discs that we can. So, please respond
DV:>to this post, have the last word AND Have A Great Day!

Lee,

Looks like you'll finally get what you wanted.  It appears that the sysops
who pay to circulate all this stuff can now celebrate too.

Later,
.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11487
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/31/94 11:21p
Subj: GERMAN LANGUAGE PROGR                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF:>Talk German" in stock, but I carry it and can get it on short notice (as
lon
BF:>as all 3 of the distributors I can get if from haven't ALL run out!)....

I knew there were some perks to living in Indianapolis, but then again you
still have the Colts and the Pacers.  All things DO even out in the end
I guess.   8)

.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11488
  To: PAUL HAIGH                               Date: 01/31/94 11:21p
Subj: PAKS                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PH:>You wouldn't happen to sell a pak of
PH:>Cream of the Crop II & Night Owl Games...
PH:>If so, what's the price, and are those FILES.BBS ready?

Package price would be $44, and they both have FILES.BBS.  Call me if you'd
like to order!

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.00


 * SLMR 2.1a * Tagline thievery . . . On the next Oprah!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11489
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94 11:21p
Subj: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

      __________________________________________________________________
     |                                                                  |
     |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #5: SHAREWARE CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS   |
     |__________________________________________________________________|


   1. CD Powerbox 1        2. Pier 2              3. Night Owl 9
      CD Powerbox 2           Pier 3                 Night Owl 10.1
      Pier 3                  Monster Media 93       Night Owl 11
      ------                  ----------------       ------------
      $49                     $59                    $69


   4. Pier 2               5. CD Powerbox 2       6. Software Vault Gold
      Pier 3                  CD Winbox 1.01         Software Vault Games
      CD Powerbox 2           CD OS/2Box             Software Vault Windows
      -------------           ----------             ----------------------
      $59                     $49                    $49


   7. Tech Arsenal         8. CD Powerbox 2       9. OS/2Box
      Source CD-ROM           Pier 3                 Hobbes OS/2 10/93
      -------------           ------                 -----------------
      $37                     $44                    $34


  10. Windows Collection  11. Windows Companion  12. OS/2Box
      Windows Companion       OS/2 Companion         Hobbes OS/2 10/93
      Windows 1993            Dr. Shareware          OS/2 Companion
      ------------            -------------          ------------------
      $59                     $49                    $49

         BONUS:  Get CD Winbox for only $12 with any package deal!

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 400+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * Picard and Riker in '96!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11490
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94 11:21p
Subj: TOP 5 NEW CD-ROM TITLES                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #2:  TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES   |
         |________________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

 CD POWERBOX 2 * The newest of the new! Current shareware hits. BBS..$25.60
>MONSTER MEDIA VOL 3 * 650mb of files from Sep-Dec 93, w/ book. BBS..$27.90
 NIGHT OWL 11 * Yes, it's here.  BBS-ready...........................$29.90
 PC-SIG 13 * Finally!  A must-have for you SIG fans. Disks 1-4203....$24.90
 CREAM OF THE CROP 2 * All '93 files with automatic BBS installation.$25.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 ORDERS...............509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 FAX/INFO/ORDERS......509-457-2966..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 400+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * Hello, I am Mike and I am a baudaholic.

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From: DEREK STUTSMAN                         Number: 11491
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 02/02/94  1:48a
Subj: Dragon's Lair CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Joe,

I received your CD catalog; thanks a million!  I see you have Dragon's Lair 
listed for $50... Has it been released?  I have been looking and waiting, 
but nobody around here has it!  Let me know; a "yes" = an order!



Derek Stutsman
 * Wave Rider 1.10 # 153 *
... Well here's the problem JERKY!
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 11492
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/02/94  6:27a
Subj: Re: Rebel Assult                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

30 Jan 94  02:20:00, All whispered to Randy Neuner...
--------------------------------------------------------

RN> Looking for a price on Rebel Assult cd disc.  Who is selling it and how
RN> much and will it play on an MPC Level 1 system (386sx, 4mb ram, vga
RN> color 640x480, 8 bit SB card)?  Thanks.
RN> 
RN> Randy

$50.00 shipped to your house...


Call: (317) 881-9391 ask for Hershel

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 11493
  To: HAROLD HAYES                             Date: 02/02/94  6:28a
Subj: Re: Adult CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

28 Jan 94  21:08:32, All whispered to Harold Hayes...
--------------------------------------------------------

HH>  I am searching for an adult CD....(If it exists yet)
HH> Amateur models (Not the CD by that name, I have it)
HH> Girl next door kinda stuff.
HH> Shots probably taken by husband/boyfriend/friend/self.
HH> Pics to compare....AA_?????, Gabbys BBS AdBoard pics, ETC...
HH> I have most of these pics......I want new stuff.....
HH> NO KIDDIE STUFF !!!
                      S A Y L O R   E N T E R P R I S E S
                                 P.O. Box 2083
                            Indianapolis, IN  46206

                          ( 3 1 7 )   8 8 1 - 9 3 9 1
                SHIPPING AND HANDLING CHARGE IS $5.00 PER ORDER
           PRICING AND AVAILABILITY IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE AT ANY TIME
                  ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
                  ³                                          ³
                  ³   These discs contain ADULT material!    ³
                  ³        FOR SALE TO ADULTS ONLY!          ³
                  ³                                          ³
                  ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ

AMATUER MODELS (X)  - - - $25.00
    Over 500 full colr SVGA images of beautiful women.  650 megs of centerfold
    style layouts.  Photographs by professionals from around the world.  All
    images are in 1024 x 768 x 256 color format and 16.7 million color 24 bit
    TIFF format.  ViewCD CD-ROM viewer for easy viewing.  Automatic
    installation for quick startup.  FILES.BBS description file.

AMOROUS ASIAN GIRLS (XXX) - - - $33.00
     Luscious Asian girls at their playful best captured on full motion video.

BUSTY BABES #2 (XXX)  - - - $30.00
     New copyrighted collection of California Girls.  BBS ready.  "Show Off"
     interface makes this a real joy to run.

COLLEGE GIRLS (XXX)  - - - $35.00
    Easy install with Quicktime for Windows.  Clean cut amateurs "turn on" for
    the cameras.

CONDO CUTIES (XXX)  - - - $36.00
    Staring the "Space Voyeur".  Tour the Condos with this loveable fun loving
    creature as he checks out the Condo Cuties.

DEBBIE DOES DALLAS (XXX)  - - - $34.00
     Take a trip to Dallas with this infamous cheerleader. She will show you
     how to keep score.

DEVIL & MRS. JONES (XXX)  - - - $34.00
     Enjoy the intense drama of the "hereafter" with the lovely Mrs. Jones.

DIGITAL DREAMS (X)  - - - $25.00
     GIF images, adult images.  BBS ready.  660 Megabytes of original images.
     Easy installation.  A real classy disc.

DOORS OF PASSION (XXX)  - - - $38.00
     Interactive adult full motion VIDEOROM that has a surprise behind every
     door.  But, only for consenting adults!

EXTREME DELIGHT (XXX)  - - - $29.00
     Very alluring and provocative adult title.  Sizzles with passion.

GIRLS OF MARDI GRAS (X) - - - $35.00
     Great music and beautifull girls.  Don't miss the party!

L.A. STRIPPERS (X)  - - - $39.00
     Talented artists performing in an L.A. Cabaret to 60's music.
     Professionally and tastefully done.

PHONE SEX (X) - - - $20.00
     500 Megabytes of erotic conversation.  Studio produced in both 8 and 16
     bit stereo.  WAV files for Windows.

PRINCESS OF PERSIA (XXX) - - - $35.00
     Intrigue and danger in a full length movie with stereo sound.  Has an
     enjoyable twist.  Run a scene or the whole movie.  Simple to use.

SOUTHERN BEAUTIES (X)  - - - $29.00
    1,000 High Res GIFs at 1024x768 form original 35 MM slides.  300 Megabytes
    of true 24 bit color.

SWEET DREAMS (X)  - - - $30.00
     Collection of sexy ladies that will give you "Sweet Dreams". Interactive
     options on this slick new interface. BBS ready.

SUPER SMUTWARE (XXX)  - - - $26.00
     640 Megabytes.  1,000 1024x768x256 color images and 2,000 800x600 images.
     100 adult animations.  BBS ready.

WICKED WHISPERS #1 - - - $35.00
    Full movie.  The best in sight and sound.  With a plot that is not hard to
    follow.
WILD WOMEN (XXX)  - - - $26.00
     600 Megabytes of "HOT" adult GIFS.  Easy user interface. BBS ready.

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From: LOU MATRAZZO                           Number: 11494
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 02/04/94  5:40a
Subj: Re: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MH>  >              More Than 85 Well Known BODACIOUS BEAUTIES

MH>  > FOR USE ON YOUR BBS FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS

MH>  > $25.00 for the first node
MH>  > $15.00 each additional node (up to five)
MH>  > $12.00 each additional node (up to ten)
MH>  > $10.00 each additional node thereafter

MH> Blaine I don't run a public bbs so I take it I'm exempt from this?

MH> You honestly think someone is going to be stupid enough to pay $100's of
MH> dollars to use this disk when we can buy others that aren't trying to
MH> cheat
MH> us by paying one price one time only.

MH> I seriosly doubt you or anyone else will make much money on this disk,
MH> if
MH> you get burnt maybe you'll learn cheating people is out.

MH>                                     Mike Harris

That's one of those ideas that sounded good over his 26th beer.

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From: ANGELLO HUONG                          Number: 11495
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/04/94  6:24a
Subj: Cd Coming Up...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN>It is on its way back to ya.

I sent the Storm 2 out Monday so you should get it before you get this
post.

Angello
         
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 11496
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/03/94  4:38p
Subj: Top Drawer Released!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                That's right a great ShareWare ROM 
                            for $19.00 
 
 
      Big Sky Rom's newest release, TopDrawer, is now shipping; 
      for you who have pre ordered, it's on its way. 
      Yeah, I know.  What kind of ROM am I getting for 19 
      bucks? 
 
                         ANSWER 
 
             Possibly the best ROM you have to date! 
 
      This ROM is published by SysOps for the SysOp.  Tired of 
      compiling list and heaven knows what else to get a ROM 
      online? 
 
      This is the answer you have been waiting for, affordable 
      files at this introductory price, to show what TopDrawer 
      is and can do. 
 
      Files.bbs in every DIR, so simple it can be run on a test 
      drive of QMODEM (tm). Plus SPITFIRE (tm) files SFFILES.BBS. 
      And you 4DOS (tm) users will find descript.ion files. 
      If you're a PC-BOARD(tm) SysOp, you'll find a comprehensive 
      SETMEUP.exe that will install the ROM for you! (...You do 
      have to have it in the CD-ROM player!) grin........ 
      All archives are compressed using pkzip (PKWARE (tm) 204G 
      using maximum compression. 
      All archives and their members have been scanned with the 
      latest virus scanners. 
 
      All files have file_id.diz's in them, GOOD ONE's, at that; 
      we added over 1,859 full descriptions when none were available 
      or the author thought that high ASCII looked better. 
 
      And on TOP of all that, we have made a great effort to remove 
      commercial files and other copyright infringements. 
      Now, what this means is that we set this ROM up for the BBS, 
      not the end user!!!! 
 
    We have, because of current legal cases and judgments within the 
    publishing community, removed VOC, WAVE, and MIDI sound files. The 
    real programs are still there; we just deleted the lawyer syndrome. 
    All of the GIF's are our own, no copyright infringements to worry 
    about. You are licensed as the ROM owner to distribute them to your 
    users. 
 
    There is also a feature authors DIR.  That's the authors we felt 
    exhibited professional demeanor in program ability and distribution 
    ease.  Plus, we have the text files that are the latest rage -- that 
    is, we have STEVE ROBERTS stuff, NOT Megabytes of FAQ's or other 
    drivel.  We have taken great pains to think of the user and the SysOp. 
    You will find your users cruising through this easy file system and 
    praising you for the setup (that is, if you have great users like we 
    do). 
 
    Both the SuperMart BBS and PC-MONTANA BBS have handicapped users, and 
    thought went into the files and their placement to enhance the interface 
    for these special individuals. 
    Ok, now to the brass tacks:  Files -- there are 4,174;that's 624 Mb + 
    uncompressed.  Dirs -- no, not 50 or 60, just 45 ; and this ROM will 
    interface with our first release, BIG SKY 01, so you don't have to do 
    a major setup all over again! 
 
  You've probably heard other SysOps saying that they're removing such and 
  such ROM offline because of one problem or another.  We listen to these 
  SysOps; you are our bread and butter (low cost spread in this ROM's price). 
 
  Now, where can I get this ROM?  Well, read the list and you can order this 
  baby online or by voice. 
 
          The COMPUTER WORKS  Data   1-205-671-0092 
                              Voice  1-205-793-4481 
 
          THE SUPERMART BBS   Data   1-406-586-3774 
                              Voice  1-406-586-8344 
 
          PC-MONTANA BBS      Data   1-406-284-3120  THE MOTHER BOARD for 
                                                     BIG SKY ROMs ! 
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From: SCOTT STURGILL                         Number: 11497
  To: MIKE STEFFEN                             Date: 02/03/94 11:30p
Subj: Adult Cd's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I mailed the Microsoft Multimedia Pack CD to you Today the same day I talked
to you.  It went out today, so you should get it in 3-5 days.
    Thanks
        Scott

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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 11498
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/03/94 10:55a
Subj: Adult CD-ROMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

			     Digital Broadcast Video
			      3318 South 7th Street
				Abilene, TX 79605

    VOICE: (915)673-1911 BBS: (915)673-8173 14.4 BBS: (915)673-8181

   ****************** Adult CD-ROM Titles ****************************

Hot Pics 5.................................................... $ 22.50
Amateur Models................................................   22.50
A.P.L. Volume 1...............................................   22.50
*NEW* Interactive Adult Movie Almanac.........................   56.95
*NEW* Interactive Playboy Electronic Datebook.................   44.50
Island Girls..................................................   16.95
Island Girls Volume 2.........................................   16.95
Hawaiian Classic..............................................   19.95
Kama Sutra....................................................   38.95
King Dong.....................................................   44.50
*NEW* Pinch of Pepper.........................................   44.50
*NEW* Hot Pics ...............................................   38.95

Many other titles available, call for pricing...  We also sell many
non-adult CD-ROM titles.
	
You must be 18 years of age or older to order any of the above titles.
Terms are as follows, we accept VISA, Mastercard, Money Order, and COD.
add additional $5.00 for COD Charges.

Phone Lines Open 7-days a week 9am - 9pm CST.   If residing in Texas be
sure to include 8.25% sales tax.   Make all checks and money orders
payable to Digital Broadcast Video.
 
P.S. We will also give you a trade in discount on used Adult CD-ROMS, or
     we will purchase your used Adult CD-ROMS.
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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 11499
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/03/94 10:56a
Subj: IBM Games Software                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

			     Digital Broadcast Video
			      3318 South 7th Street
				Abilene, TX 79605

    VOICE: (915)673-1911 BBS: (915)673-8173 14.4 BBS: (915)673-8181

****************************Software Titles ****************************

Wing Commander - Privater   3.5" Disk......................... $ 46.50
Wing Commander - Privater Speech Pack.........................   19.95
X-Wing REBEL ASSAULT CD-ROM...................................   42.99 
Dr. Games  CD-ROM  BBS Ready Loaded with all types of PD Games   
***Special Purchase***                                           16.95
*NEW* *HOT* Arctic Baron......................................   38.95
*NEW* *HOT* Dragon's Lair CD-ROM, like the arcade version.....   39.95

Many other titles available, call for pricing......

	
Terms are as follows, we accept VISA, Mastercard, Money Order, and COD.
add additional $5.00 for COD Charges.

Phone Lines Open 7-days a week 9am - 9pm CST.   If residing in Texas be
sure to include 8.25% sales tax.   Make all checks and money orders
payable to Digital Broadcast Video.
 
P.S. We will also give you a trade in discount on used CD-ROMS, or
     we will purchase your used CD-ROMS.
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From: JAMES THORNE                           Number: 11500
  To: DAN PROCIV                               Date: 02/03/94  7:18a
Subj: CATALOG                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BL> -=> On 28 Jan 94  00:43:11 David Ryder did profusely salivate to Dan 
BL>Prociv
BL><=-
BL>
BL> DP> THE CD-MACHINE HAS OVER 500+ TITLES TO CHOOSE FROM, INCLUDING 
BL>ALL
BL> DP> ADULT TITLES AVAILABLE ON CDROM!  TONS OF SHAREWARE / COMMERCIAL 
BL>/
BL> DP> GAMES / ETC.
BL> DR> 
BL> >>>>>>>>GIANT CDROM CATALOG AVAILABLE FOR MAILING ON 
BL>REQUEST!!>>>>>>>>>
BL>


Please send a copy of the catalog to 

James Thorne
9306 Charterlawn
Houston, TX 77070

Thanks and looking forward to getting it!.

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From: JAMES THORNE                           Number: 11501
  To: STEVE KRAISLER                           Date: 02/03/94  7:33a
Subj: WORLD AND US ATLAS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SK>I have BOTH the newest versions of Software Toolworks World Atlas and 
SK>US ATlas
SK>(version 4.0 ).  They are the windows cd's (MPC) versions with loads 
SK>of real
SK>time video "flybys"  I'll sell both for 30 bucks or 17 each.  You pay 
SK>shipping.
SK>
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SK> * Origin: Chronicles of Narnia 215-464-9068 (1:273/941)
SK>

I'll take both of them.  Send them COD for $37.50 to:

James Thorne
9306 Charterlawn
Houston, TX 77070

Please send me a confirmation here.  Also send them US mail not UPS 
please.

THANKS!


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From: STEVE KENNEDY                          Number: 11502
  To: JAMES CLEVENGER                          Date: 02/03/94  6:21p
Subj: RE: 3DO?                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Re: Software selling machines.
 >  
 > I agree, and it is actually very appropriate, since what good is a 
 > computer that has no software?
 >  
 > Regarding CPU Bach, I really think that a title of this quality will 
 > be ported over to the other CD-ROM based platforms.  So, don't worry 
 > if the 3D0 doesn't make it as a market success - today we see a big 
 > demand for good software that drives the developers to routinely 
 > make multi-platform versions.  This trend is expected to increase 
 > during the 90s.
 > 
 > 

The quality is, of course, my prediction, since the product has not shipped
yet.  It is based on the factors I mentioned, the award-winning PC Game
author/publisher (S. Meier/ "Civilization" [Microprose - "World Circuit", all
right!]), the PhD music theoretician, and IMHO the greatest composer who ever
lived (JSB - ask Beethoven & Chopin who their favorite was...).  EVEN if I am
correct on all this, I suspect the market may be limited for such a product
(I've seen complaints here already, why is Sid M. not getting on with the Civil
War?), and so I wonder about the multi-platform future.  It could be that not
everybody shares my vision <g>...

So...my plan to read the docs, if OK buy the 3DO (especially if Super Wing
Commander works out), and get my $'s worth with that package, including
whatever other good 3DO software arrives...and not worry about the other
platforms.  My wife may object to her necessary second job, but...<g - just
kidding, her hobbies are as expensive as mine>

I take my hat off to Microprose for backing Sid M. and co. on the project.

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 11503
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/04/94  9:39a
Subj: Flame? anybody seen it??                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hello Mike!

Monday January 31 1994 23:20, Mike Shannon wrote to Lee Noga:

 MS> Don't take any smack from him Lee!  I know Dave, and believe me, you could
 MS> EASILY put him across your knee and paddle some manners into him if need
 MS> be. <g>

He'd probably enjoy it.  :-)

Later,

Dave

... Make a Liberal sweat and stutter, put him under Oath to tell the TRUTH

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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 11504
  To: DEREK STUTSMAN                           Date: 02/02/94  7:10a
Subj: Storm Ii & Iii                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Wanna copy of T7G for either of them?

Sorry,I already have the 7th Guest.


                    Diana

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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 11505
  To: MICHAEL HADEN                            Date: 02/02/94  7:14a
Subj: Storm Iii                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Got Msg today and will ship I would like
-> Storm III

I will send it out today,don't know which way I'll send it til I check
out the prices(only got a bit of change on hand),but I'll let you know.
Thanks,

                   Diana

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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 11506
  To: BRIAN WOODBURY                           Date: 02/02/94  9:28a
Subj: Mac Service Info CD                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DK> *** Close-Out Special! *** $13 Including Shipping 
 DK> *** 60 CD's Left *** 
 DK>  
 DK> Contains 75mb of information on servicing Apple products including 
 DK> compact, modular and notebook CPU's, printers, monitors and network 
 DK> products.  
 DK> Price: $18 (Now $13) inc. shipping & handling.....

 BW>      Is this something I can load up on my IBM to use 
 BW> for apple reference? 

  Sorry to say no....I've never seen anything that would let a PC read MAC HFS
format CD's....Sorry. It is a great reference disk for Macs though..

  DCK



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From: KIERAN DONAHUE                         Number: 11507
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/02/94 10:59p
Subj: cd-rom wanted                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a cd-rom with a scsi interface and at least 280ms access time.
 If anyone has one please post your offer.
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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 11508
  To: MIKE HADEN                               Date: 02/03/94  1:58p
Subj: You Forgot To Send "Claw                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÿ@SUBJECT:You forgot to send "Claw Marks"                             N
Hi!
 Your CD is in the mail,should reach you in the next few days.
I received Wing Commander/Ultima VI,but you forgot to send the manual
"Claw Marks" which has the copy-write codes so that I can play Wing
Commander..Please send this as soon as possible,

Thank You,

                         Diana Kirksey
                         1624 Hwy.99 SP#79
                         Manteca,CA.  95336

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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 11509
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/03/94  7:41a
Subj: RANDOM HOUSE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Am looking for info/price on the Random House UNABRIDGED Dictionary 2nd
Edition, CD-ROM. Thanks

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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 11510
  To: JOHN COOK                                Date: 02/04/94 12:12p
Subj: Re: Adult Cd-rom (Sizzle)               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting John Cook to All <=-

 JC> SIZZLE...PG-18 (my rating) collection of glamour model portfolios.

 JC> an adult BBS. Will swap for any Busty Babes,
 JC> any FAO, or other BBS ready disc. What have
 JC> you to offer?

I have FAO1 that I'll trade....
 
... Voice: 919-870-6926 (eves/weekends)
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From: WARREN WILLIAMS                        Number: 11511
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/04/94 12:13p
Subj: ANYWHERE NEAR CHATTANOOGA               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

	I am trying to find out if this conference is carried by a BBS
anywhere in the Chattanooga, TN area.   I have a friend there who would
like to follow it.


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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 11512
  To: BRIAN KELLER                             Date: 02/02/94  8:54p
Subj: Re: WING COMMANDER 2                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Brian Keller to Chip Slate <=-

 BK> Im more interested in selling i have lots of games you probally
 BK> have bye.

OK

 C-Ya,Chip Slate



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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 11513
  To: DAVID MANZ                               Date: 02/02/94  9:18p
Subj: Re: compleate list of CD's for sale.    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey can you send these by mail?(USPS)
my address:Chip Slate
           P.O. Box 96
           Claudville,VA 24076


... I have something BETTER than chocolate. þ Riker
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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 11514
  To: SEAN CREIGH                              Date: 02/02/94  9:19p
Subj: Re: Liesure Suit Larry 6                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Sean Creigh to All <=-

 SC> Does anyone know if Liesure Suit Larry is available on CD yet?
 SC> Larry 6 that is.

IT SURE IS!! :()
C-Ya,Chip Slate



... Big things come in .QWK packages.
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 11515
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 02/06/94  9:31a
Subj: E-O-T Request!                          Refer: 11442
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> PLEASE take whatever steps may be necessary to end the threads betwee
-> David Vangelder, Lee Noga, and various respondants in this echo!

I moderate this echo under the presumption that the participants don't
need (or want) guidance from me regarding what is on topic and what is
off topic. It's pretty self explanatory - this is CDROM_SALE, so I leave
it at that. I've got enough hassles in my life as it is without having
to worry about someone breaking "the rules" here... My goal with this
echo is to create an uninhibited atmosphere - an atmosphere that
encourages posting without a fear of being reprimanded for being off
topic or violating some arbitrarily imposed rule.

When someone does use this echo for a purpose other than advertising CD
ROM products for sale, my normal response is to let the collective will
of the participants dictate whether the topic should be discussed...
Usually, this collective will takes care of off topic conversations.
When someone receives 100 negative responses to a given post, it is
again assumed that the off topic poster will mend their ways - if for no
other reason than to preserve their own integrity and their rapport with
their fellow participants.

Now, regarding the thread you mentioned, everything has happened except
for the last part of the last sentence in the preceeding paragraph.
Should I reprimand someone for being disliked? Nope. Should I reprimand
someone for being a poor e-mail marketeer? Nope. Should I reprimand
someone if they're unable to sway public opinion in their favor? Nope.
Those are not my problems - those are the problems (PR problems) of the
poster. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO PREVENT SOMEONE FROM ACTING LIKE AN
IDIOT.

This echo is like a party that everyone is invited to.  The door is open
and anyone can come in.  I can't make the assholes go home. Personally,
if I'm at a party where I'm disliked by everyone, I go home.  I can't
assume that others would do the same thing, though.

-> Ms. Noga at first politely requested, on numerous occasions, that the
-> irritating and excessively LONG threads be dropped.  This has proven
-> be to no avail.  These messages have, at this point, become pseudo-le
-> threats.  SysOps WORLD-WIDE are paying to carry this trash!

I know that.  See the 2nd paragraph.  I can't (and won't) force someone
to be liked and accepted by the other participants.  Public opinion has
already taken care of this thread, even though the messages continue to
roll in.

-> cc: Tim Helton (Co-moderator)

Whoa, dude... I'm the co-moderator of CDROM.  I'm moderator here ;)

tim
moderator
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From: RICHARD LEIGHTON                       Number: 11516
  To: RICK SHELTON                             Date: 02/02/94  7:00a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol1 #1                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Rick Shelton to All <=-


 RS> I still have Busty Babes Vol1 #1 for sale, make me an offer.
 RS> Cya

 I'll give you $ 25.00 shipped.
                                        Richard



... New or Used ? "Used"  Oh thats why it costs so much ! Tested=$$$$$
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From: MICKEY LIGHTSEY                        Number: 11517
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 02/05/94  2:50p
Subj: Re: Bbv2 For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I will trade you Shareware Gold and shareware to the maxx for FAO1.
Did you make the trade? I have FAO 1,2 &3 for sale or trade.


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From: MICKEY LIGHTSEY                        Number: 11518
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/05/94  3:02p
Subj: Pioner 18 disk changer                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi, I was wondering if anyone in this echo is running the Pioneer 18
disk changer? I'm seriously thinking about this, but due to the amount
of $ it costs I was looking for any available feedback. If I do get it
I'll be looking for some good adult disks, I have 5 good shareware
disks. Any info is appreciated.


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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 11519
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/03/94  9:36p
Subj: CDs to SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Have the following cds that I would like to swap. Am interested in adult and
games.

MPC Wizard 2.0
ROMaterial
WIN CD Professional
Best of the Bureau (samples)
Wilsondisc - Readers' Guide Abstracts Select Edition
Shakespeare - The complete works
PC Magazine - Select Demos
Sing Along Classics - vol 1102
CD-ROM Premiere - Worlds First Totally Interactive CD rom Sampler
Battle Chess - Enhanced version

XXX Extreme (Swap for another adult only.)


Roger

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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 11520
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/04/94 10:37a
Subj: My Private Collection Wanted            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for either My Private Collection 1 or 2. Would rather trade XXX Extreme
for it, but might kick out some bucks instead, if I have to.

Roger

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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 11521
  To: JOHN VAN HARE                            Date: 02/04/94 10:51a
Subj: Re CDs                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

30 Jan 94 18:22, John Van Hare wrote to Roger Davis:

 RD>> XXX Extreme

 JVH> Would you want to sell this, I loaned mine to a friend, and don't think
 JVH> he wants to give it up <grin>.

John, I am looking to trade it for another adult cd.

Roger

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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 11522
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/04/94 10:55a
Subj: Software Vault                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The Collection for Windows- Instant Library for Windows on CD-ROM

The Gold Collection - Instant Software Library on CD-ROM (unopened)

The Games Collection - Instant Games Library on CD-ROM (unopened)


Want to swap these for adult cds or games cds.


Roger

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From: DOUG VANVLEET                          Number: 11523
  To: JOHN COOK                                Date: 02/05/94 10:09a
Subj: would you trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Would you trade for night owl 8?
         Doug


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From: DOUG VANVLEET                          Number: 11524
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 02/05/94 10:12a
Subj: cat                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Could you send me a cataloge?



Doug VanVleet
1316 Brooklen ave
Mt Airy,NC 27030


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 11525
  To: PHILIP FREEMAN                           Date: 02/05/94 10:18a
Subj: Re: Adult CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NOTE: This message was originally addressed to HAROLD HAYES
      and was forwarded to you by DOUG VANVLEET
                          --------------------
28 Jan 94  21:08:32, All whispered to Harold Hayes...
--------------------------------------------------------

HH>  I am searching for an adult CD....(If it exists yet)
HH> Amateur models (Not the CD by that name, I have it)
HH> Girl next door kinda stuff.
HH> Shots probably taken by husband/boyfriend/friend/self.
HH> Pics to compare....AA_?????, Gabbys BBS AdBoard pics, ETC...
HH> I have most of these pics......I want new stuff.....
HH> NO KIDDIE STUFF !!!
                      S A Y L O R   E N T E R P R I S E S
                                 P.O. Box 2083
                            Indianapolis, IN  46206

                          ( 3 1 7 )   8 8 1 - 9 3 9 1
                SHIPPING AND HANDLING CHARGE IS $5.00 PER ORDER
           PRICING AND AVAILABILITY IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE AT ANY TIME
                  ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
                  ³                                          ³
                  ³   These discs contain ADULT material!    ³
                  ³        FOR SALE TO ADULTS ONLY!          ³
                  ³                                          ³
                  ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ

AMATUER MODELS (X)  - - - $25.00
    Over 500 full colr SVGA images of beautiful women.  650 megs of centerfold
    style layouts.  Photographs by professionals from around the world.  All
    images are in 1024 x 768 x 256 color format and 16.7 million color 24 bit
    TIFF format.  ViewCD CD-ROM viewer for easy viewing.  Automatic
    installation for quick startup.  FILES.BBS description file.

AMOROUS ASIAN GIRLS (XXX) - - - $33.00
     Luscious Asian girls at their playful best captured on full motion video.

BUSTY BABES #2 (XXX)  - - - $30.00
     New copyrighted collection of California Girls.  BBS ready.  "Show Off"
     interface makes this a real joy to run.

COLLEGE GIRLS (XXX)  - - - $35.00
    Easy install with Quicktime for Windows.  Clean cut amateurs "turn on" for
    the cameras.

CONDO CUTIES (XXX)  - - - $36.00
    Staring the "Space Voyeur".  Tour the Condos with this loveable fun loving
    creature as he checks out the Condo Cuties.

DEBBIE DOES DALLAS (XXX)  - - - $34.00
     Take a trip to Dallas with this infamous cheerleader. She will show you
     how to keep score.

DEVIL & MRS. JONES (XXX)  - - - $34.00
     Enjoy the intense drama of the "hereafter" with the lovely Mrs. Jones.

DIGITAL DREAMS (X)  - - - $25.00
     GIF images, adult images.  BBS ready.  660 Megabytes of original images.
     Easy installation.  A real classy disc.

DOORS OF PASSION (XXX)  - - - $38.00
     Interactive adult full motion VIDEOROM that has a surprise behind every
     door.  But, only for consenting adults!

EXTREME DELIGHT (XXX)  - - - $29.00
     Very alluring and provocative adult title.  Sizzles with passion.

GIRLS OF MARDI GRAS (X) - - - $35.00
     Great music and beautifull girls.  Don't miss the party!

L.A. STRIPPERS (X)  - - - $39.00
     Talented artists performing in an L.A. Cabaret to 60's music.
     Professionally and tastefully done.

PHONE SEX (X) - - - $20.00
     500 Megabytes of erotic conversation.  Studio produced in both 8 and 16
     bit stereo.  WAV files for Windows.

PRINCESS OF PERSIA (XXX) - - - $35.00
     Intrigue and danger in a full length movie with stereo sound.  Has an
     enjoyable twist.  Run a scene or the whole movie.  Simple to use.

SOUTHERN BEAUTIES (X)  - - - $29.00
    1,000 High Res GIFs at 1024x768 form original 35 MM slides.  300 Megabytes
    of true 24 bit color.

SWEET DREAMS (X)  - - - $30.00
     Collection of sexy ladies that will give you "Sweet Dreams". Interactive
     options on this slick new interface. BBS ready.

SUPER SMUTWARE (XXX)  - - - $26.00
     640 Megabytes.  1,000 1024x768x256 color images and 2,000 800x600 images.
     100 adult animations.  BBS ready.

WICKED WHISPERS #1 - - - $35.00
    Full movie.  The best in sight and sound.  With a plot that is not hard to
    follow.
WILD WOMEN (XXX)  - - - $26.00
     600 Megabytes of "HOT" adult GIFS.  Easy user interface. BBS ready.

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From: DOUG VANVLEET                          Number: 11526
  To: ROSE CITY                                Date: 02/05/94 10:19a
Subj: cat                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Could you send me your cataloge?

 Doug VanVleet
1316 Brooklen ave
Mt Airy,NC 27030


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From: DOUG VANVLEET                          Number: 11527
  To: SAM BECKWITH                             Date: 02/05/94 10:22a
Subj: cat                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   I would like a cataloge..

  American BBS
1316 Brooklen ave
Mt Airy,nc 27030


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From: SYSTEM OPERATOR                        Number: 11528
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 01/31/94 10:34p
Subj: CD-lists                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  *********************************
 > Hi could you send me a copy also of your updated cd
 > list. Thanks
 >  *********************************

 > Absolutely!  Thanks for asking.

 > Regards,

 > Hayden Bradshaw

Me to?????

1:121/34

Thanks

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From: DON OLDENBURG                          Number: 11529
  To: ANYONE!                                  Date: 01/31/94 10:41p
Subj: CD for Sale or Trade!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Make me an offer:

PC-SIG 12th edition
Forbidden Subjects, Vol1

Will sell or trade....  Looking for CURRENT shareware or adult files....

Don Oldenburg
Sysop, Missing Link

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From: ERIC HERTZFELDT                        Number: 11530
  To: ELIZABETH RODIER                         Date: 02/02/94  1:15p
Subj: Cookbook CD?                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You may have gotten a reply by now, but I have two cookbook CD's that I
really like. For sheer volume of recipes, I have Cookbook Heaven, a
Shareware one. It has a custom menu, and runs off of the CD. It also
contains about 10,000 recipes, nutritional info, etc.
 
For multimedia-type CD's, I'd recommend the Better Homes and Gardens CD
cookbook. It has full color photo's of all recipes, you can search for low
salt, low cholesterol, or low sugar, and it has movie clips of various
kitchen preparation activities to show you what to do. For example, if you
don't know how to skin chicken, there is a movie clip that shows a pair of
hands skinning chicken, and a narrator explaining what to do. I like them
both for their strengths, and they complement each other.
 
Eric

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From: MARC CHIARELLO                         Number: 11531
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/02/94  2:16p
Subj: Sound Card For $ale                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Soundblaster Pro 2
Includes Manuals, and original and updated drivers for DOS & Windows 3.1
$80 and I will pay shipping in the US
Please leave a note if interested
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From: TROY BROWN                             Number: 11532
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/04/94  4:41p
Subj: HOT PIX                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I was wondering if the Hot Pix series is still available?  I haven't seen
any dealers advertising it, so I thought it might not be in production
any more

 * Q-Blue 1.0 [NR] *

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From: DENNIS LIEBURN                         Number: 11533
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 02/02/94  8:53p
Subj: Your Annoying                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I heard DAVID VANGELDER talking about Your Annoying


I don't suppose you and Ms. Noga could take you petty differences to 
Netmail?

Round Table BBS (414) 632-2004
A true Windows GUI BBS.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11534
  To: DAVID MANZ                               Date: 02/03/94  3:09p
Subj: COMPLEATE LIST OF CD'S FO               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>disc set......$52.00 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea...............$25.00 600
Days
>to Cocos Island...................$35.00 7 Days in
>August...........................$48.00 9-Digit Zip

 Please fix your formatting - this message was essentially unreadable as
written.

 Adding a single space " " to the start of each line is usually the best cure
for the problem....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Satan (n): Moderator of Hell

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11535
  To: THOMAS BAIRD                             Date: 02/03/94  3:10p
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>What's the most highly recommend CD-Rom out there that supports OS/2?

 Currently a tossup between the Walnut Creek "Hobbes" disc (just updated
November 1993) and OS/2 Box.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Jimmy Hoffa's body can't be found - he visited Dahmer....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11536
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/04/94 11:56a
Subj: GERMAN LANGUAGE PROGR                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

>I knew there were some perks to living in Indianapolis, but then again you
>still have the Colts and the Pacers.  All things DO even out in the end I
>guess.   8)

 It's even MORE annoying - the Pacers used to be a GOOD team, back before the
merger.

 Unfortunately, 60% of their starters got lured to the NBA (George McGinnis,
Darnell Hillman, Don Buse) and the other 40% retired (Billy Keller, Roger
Brown) in the last 2 years before the merger....

 8-<

 Oh well - we still have I.U. and Purdue and occasionally Notre Dame or Indiana
State or Ball State to cheer for!


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11537
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/04/94  1:02p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1 OF 5                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Brice's Library
 CD-ROM Price List 14 January 1993

 5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
 Indianapolis, IN 46220
 Tue Thu 11am - 8pm  Wed Fri 11am - 6pm  EST
 (317) 726-1980 voice  (317) 726-1387 BBS (24 hour, 1200/2400/v.32 supported)

 FidoNet 1:231/190   InterNet sysop@f190.n231.z1.fidonet.org
 All prices are in U.S. Dollars and include any applicable Sales Tax.
 U.S. Shipping included if prepaid (please allow 7 days for check to clear).
 Sales to out-of-U.S. addresses require payment in U.S. funds.
 We cannot accept Credit Card payment at this time.
 If you don't see a specific title that you are looking for, please CALL!
 I add new titles almost constantly!


 Infocomm 10 Year Aniversery Coll. 79  Louis Armstrong Multi Record      29
 1000 Sound Effects                49  Lovejoy's College Councel. (MPC)  79
 1001 Utilities                    10  Lovely Ladies II                  31
 1992 CD-ROM Collection w/CIA      63  Lucas Arts Game Pack II (OEM)     20
 20'th Century Almanac (5 disc)    72  Lucas Arts Mac Game Pack II       26
 20'th Century Art                 49  Lunicus (Mac)                     69
 20'th Century People (OEM)        25  Lyric Language French (PC/Mac)    40
 20'th Century Sports (OEM)        25  Lyric Language Spanish (PC/Mac)   40
 20000 Leagues Under the Sea (Mac) 69  MacMillan Dict for Children (OEM) 19
 3'd Body Adventure (MPC)          79  MacMillan Dict. for Children (Mac 39
 3D Tutor (Mac)                   119  Macromind Action! (OEM)           28
 501 Sound Waves                   19  Mad Dog McCree                    35
 600 Days to Cocos Island (Mac)    59  Made in the USA (PC/Mac)          36
 7'th Guest (OEM)                  36  Madness of Roland (Mac)           50
 7'th Guest (Mac)                  99  Magic Death (MPC)                 49
 9 Digit Zip Codes                 32  Magic Death (Mac)                 49
 9000 Sounds                       24  Magic Flute (Mac)                 55
 A Christmas Carol                 26  Majestic Places (PC/Mac)          36
 A Christmas Carol (FTL)           56  Mammals (Nat. Geographic)         23
 A Silly Noisy House (MPC)         59  Man Enough                        59
 A Silly Noisy House (Mac)         49  Manhole                           35
 A+ Grade Builder                  34  Manhole (OEM)                     25
 About Cows                        25  Manpower                          29
 AD&D Dark Sun: Shattered Lands    69  Mantis Experimental Fighter (OEM) 16
 AD&D Dungeon Hack                 49  Maps 'n' Facts PC Globe           47
 AD&D Fantasy Empires              59  Mario is Missing Deluxe (OEM)     20
 ADA Programming                   19  Mario Missing w/World Atlas (OEM) 20
 Adobe Type on Call                81  Mario Teaches Typing              64
 Adobe Type on Call (Windows)      83  Mars Explorer                     41
 Adventures                        40  Masterpiece Library               36
 Adventures in Heaven              15  Math Blaster Spot                 49
 Adventures of Pinocchio (MAC)     59  Matinee Screen Saver              43
 Adventures of Willy Beamish (OEM) 17  Mavis Beacon Typing (MPC) (OEM)   16
 Aegis Guardian Fleet              68  Max the Dragon (PC/Mac)           55
 Aesopolis (Mac)                   69  Mayo Clinic (MPC) (OEM)           18
 Aesop's Fables (eBook)            40  Mayo Clinic (Mac) (OEM)           24
 AGFA Intro PAC - 20 Typefaces     82  MCS CD Master                     29
 Airbrush Portfolio (PC/Mac)       69  MCS SOund Review vol. 1           39
 Air Warrier                       58  Media Clips 3-pack (MPC) (OEM)    45
 Aircraft Encyclopedia             27  Mega A/V                          26
 Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp    34  Mega Clipart (OEM)                27
 Aladdin's Lamp (EA) (DOS)         47  Mega CD-ROM v.1                   20
 All American Sports               47  Mega CD-ROM v.2                   26
 All Music Guide                   55  Mega Media I                      26
 Aloha, Hawaii!                    20  Mega Movie Guide                  39
 Alone in the Dark                 69  Mega ROM 3.2 (Mac)                89
 Amanda Stories (MPC)              41  Mega WinOS/2                      26
 Amanda Stories (Mac)              49  Megarace                          59
 Amazing Universe (PC/Mac)         59  Microcosm                         85
 America Adventure                 69  Microprose CD Sampler             15
 America Alive Guidedisc (DOS)     59  Microprose Collection (OEM)       28
 America Alive Guidisc (Mac)       87  Microsoft Bookshelf '93 (OEM)     38
 American Business Phone Book '92  14  Microsoft Golf                    45
 American Business Phone Book '93  25  Microsoft Mozart                  54
 American Heritage Ilus Ency Dict  50  Microsoft Multimedia Pack (OEM)   69
 American Journey 1896-1945        45  Microsoft Musical Inst. (Mac)     79
 American Vista Atlas (MPC) (OEM)  27  Microsoft Stravisky               54
 American Vista Atlas (Mac)        60  Microsoft Works (OEM)             38
 America's Premier Shareware       14  Middle East Diary                 26
 Americans in Space (PC/Mac)       57  MIDI Connection                   56
 Aminet                            15  MIDI Music Shop for Windows       17
 Anecdotes v.1                     14  Midnight Movie Madness            49
 Anecdotes v.2                     14  Might and Magic: World of Xeen    69
 Anecdotes v.3                     14  Mixed Up Mother Goose (OEM)       17
 Anglo-Saxons                      44  Monarch Notes (PC/Mac)            40
 Animal Alphabet (MPC)             49  Money, Money, Money! (OEM)        19
 Animal Kingdom (PC/Mac)           39  Monster Disk (2 discs)            30
 Animal Tales                      59  Monster Media '93                 23
 Animals Encyclopedia (MPC) (OEM)  27  Monster Media '93 #2              28
 Animals in Motion                 40  Mosaic Magic                      29
 Animals San Diego Zoo (DOS) (OEM) 19  Mosaic Magic (Mac)                49
 Animals San Diego Zoo (MPC) (OEM) 20  Mother of All Clip Art            14
 Animals San Diego Zoo (Mac) (OEM) 23  Motion Picture Guide              89
 Animation Festival (MPC) (OEM)    20  Movie Select                      55
 Animation Magic (Win)             58  Movie Select (Mac)                55
 Annabel's Dream Ancient Egy (Mac) 55  Movies on TV and Video (PC/Mac)   34
 Annabel's Dream Medival Eng (DOS) 69  Mowgli's Brothers                 36
 Annabel's Dream Medival Eng (Mac) 69  Mozart (MPC) (OEM)                20
 APL Volume I                      19  Mozart Multimedia Musicbook       37
 Apollo 8 Go For TLI               30  Mozart Multimedia Musicbook (Mac) 38
 Arcade                            45  Mozart: Dissonant Quartet         49
 Archives of History (DOS)         65  MPC Wizard (OEM)                  14
 Archives of History (Mac)         69  MS Art Gallery                    79
 Arctic Baron                      39  MS Art Gallery (Mac)              79
 Art Appeal Series                 89  MS-DOS Explorer 3                 35
 Art of Ancient Egypt v.4          65  Multi Bible                       89
 Art of Renaisance II              95  Multimedia Animal Encyc. (Mac)    59
 Art Library 3 Pack                89  Multimedia Audio Collection       30
 Arthur Teacher Troubl (MPC) (OEM) 22  Multimedia Audubon Birds (PC/Mac) 19
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble (Mac)    49  Multimedia Audbn Mammals (PC/Mac) 19
 ASP Advantage                     20  Multimedia Environments           29
 Astrology Source (PC/Mac)         59  Multimedia Handisc (Mac)          87
 Atlas of U.S. Presidents          26  Multimedia Magic Collection       15
 Audioshop (Mac)                   75  Multimedia Mania                  19
 Authorware Star (MPC) (OEM)       34  Murder Makes Strange Deadfellows  45
 Autodesk Explorer                 85  Murmurs of Earth (3 disc) (PC/Mac 44
 B17 Flying Fortress/S.S. II (OEM) 30  Music Magic                       39
 Baccus and Comus (Mac)            50  Musical World Pro Piccolo         69
 Backroad Racers                   59  Mutanoid Math & Word Challenge    39
 Baker's Dozen Game Pack Windows   15  MVP Game Jamboree                 12
 Barney Bear Goes to School        14  My Advanced Label Designer        54
 Barney Bear Goes to Space         14  The Myst (Mac)                    79
 Barron's Book Notes (OEM)         30  NAFTA on CD-ROM (PC/Mac)          89
 Barron's Book Notes (Mac)         74  Napoleonics                       59
 Baseball's Greatest Hits (Mac)    59  National Parks of America (PC/Mac 69
 Battle Chess (original) (OEM)     20  National Parks Guide (MPC)        54
 Battle Chess (enhanced) (OEM)     25  National Parks (MPC) (OEM)        20
 Battle Chess (enhanced) (Mac)     68  Nature Graphics I                 26
 Beauty and the Beast (OEM) (MPC)  17  Nautilus Backpack Vol.II          41
 Beethoven: The 9'th Symphony      79  Nautilus Backpack Vol. III        69
 Berlitz Thnk Tlk French (PC/Mac) 105  Nautilus Backpack v.3 (Mac)       69
 Berlitz T & T German (PC/Mac)    109  Nautilus Backpack v.4 (Mac)       69
 Berlitz T & T Italian (PC/Mac)   129  Nautilus Backpack v.5 (Mac)       69
 Berlitz T & T Spanish (PC/Mac)   109  Nautilus Best of MIDI (PC/Mac)    79
 Best Business                     25  Nautilus Best of Ent. v.1 (Mac)   54
 Best of Macintosh Shareware       49  Nautilus Best of Photography      69
 Best of Microprose                22  Nautilus Intro (OEM)              19
 Better H&G Gardening (PC/Mac)     69  Naval Pack                        69
 Better H&G Hlthy Cooking (PC/Mac) 57  Nebula for NextStep               35
 Between Heaven and Hell 2         40  New Basics Electronic Cookbook    58
 Bible Lands and Stories           40  New Basics Electronic Cookb (OEM) 24
 Bible Library                     69  New Family Bible (MPC/Mac)        49
 Bible Library  (OEM)              24  New Kid on the Block
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 Big Bug Alphabet Book (DOS)       29  Newsweek Interactive v.1 (OEM)    18
 Big Bug Alphabet Book (Mac)       34  Newsweek Interactive v.2          50
 Big Green Disc (MPC)              79  Newsweek Interactive v.2 (OEM)    25
 Big Green Disc (Mac)              79  NFL Coaches Club Football         64
 Bikini Beach (PC/Mac)             59  Night Before Chrismas             35
 Billie Holoday Multi Record       29  Night Owl 9                       24
 Bingi Burra Stone (Mac)           29  Night Owl 10                      28
 Bloodnet                          64  Night Owl Business Software       19
 Blue Force                        46  Night Owl Games                   19
 Book of Lists #3 (PC/Mac)         75  Night Owl Graphics                24
 Book of Lists #3 (PC/Mac) (OEM)   40  Night Owl Publisher (OEM)         32
 Book of Shadowboxes (Mac)         49  Night Owl Windows                 36
 Boris Vallejo Fantasy Art         48  North American Fax Phonebook      27
 Brain Drain                       19  North American Indians            26
 Brain Games Trivia (MPC)          59  NOVA (for NeXT)                   20
 Bridge Deluxe w/ Omar Sharif      65  Nova Collection v.1               54
 Bring the World to Your Senses    15  Number 11 Downing Street          69
 Britain at it's Best              24  Nutcracker                        39
 Britannica Family Choice          21  Ocean Digital Imagery vol 1 (OEM) 23
 Britannica Select Software        17  Ocean in Motion (QT)              59
 Bugs Insect Advice                64  Ocean Life: Western Pacific       39
 Business Assistant                10  Ocean Life: vol.2 (PC/Mac)        49
 Business Backgrounds (PC/Mac)     31  Oceans Below (MPC) (OEM)          20
 Business Backgrounds (OEM)        20  Officer's Bookcase (OEM)          25
 Business CD                       34  Oldies but Goodies                16
 Business Library v.1              46  On Vacation in the Brit. Isles    29
 Business Library v.1 (OEM)        30  Orchestra (Mac)                   67
 Business Made Easy                39  Oregon Trail                      55
 Business Master I  (OEM)          17  Oregon Trail (Mac)                69
 Business Master II (OEM)          18  Original Shareware 1992           10
 Business Week 1000                89  OS/2 v2.1 Upgrade                 95
 Busytown                          48  Our House (Family Circus)         45
 Busytown (Mac)                    48  Our Solar System                  12
 Butterflies                       49  Oxford English Reference Library  94
 Buzz Aldrin's Race into Space     79  Pacific vol. 1 (3 disc) (PC/Mac)  34
 C User's Group Library            22  Pacific vol. 2 (3 disc) (PC/Mac)  34
 California Collection             12  Pacific Islands                   30
 California Daydreamer             29  Parenting (MPC/Mac)               59
 California/Hawaii Golf Guide      40  Patrician                         59
 California/Hawaii Golf Gde  (OEM) 23  PC/DOS Introductory Module (OEM)  12
 California Travel                 30  PC Game Room                      18
 Cameron's Fine Art Catalog        39  PC Globe                          69
 Campaign                          49  PC Globe Maps and Facts           45
 Canadian Shareware                15  PC Karaoke (OEM)                  30
 Capitol Hill (DOS)                25  PC Medic                          46
 Capitol Hill (MPC)                25  PC Medic (OEM)                    17
 Cars Cars Cars (DOS)              80  PC-SIG #12                        19
 Cars Cars Cars (QT)               80  PC-SIG #13 (preorder)             30
 Case of the Cautious Condor       37  PC-SIG Games                      15
 Casino Collection                 19  PC-SIG Home and Business          12
 Castle of Dr, Brain               54  PC-SIG World of Education         15
 Castles II                        69  PC-SIG World of Games             15
 CD CAD v3.7                       26  PC-SIG World of Utilities         15
 CD Funhouse (PC/Mac)              39  PC-SIG World of Windows           15
 CD Funhouse (PC/Mac) OEM          17  Peak Performance                  59
 CD OS/2box                        25  Pentomino                         22
 CD Power Pack                     99  Peter and the Wolf (MPC)          44
 CD Powerbox 2                     29  Peter and the Wolf (MPC) (OEM)    18
 CD ROM Deluxe Pack                26  Peter Gabriel Explor (Mac)        79
 CD ROM Deluxe Pack II             29  Peter Pan Painting Adventure      59
 CD-ROM of CD-ROMS                 28  Peter Pan Painting Advent. (Mac)  59
 CD Speedway (cache program)       58  Peter Rabbit Talking Storybook    21
 CD Storytime (OEM)                18  Pharmacist Guide to Drugs         29
 CD WinBox 1.01                    20  Phoenix #3                        11
 Chaos Continuum (MPC)             59  Phoenix #4                        16
 Chaos Continuum (Mac)             64  Phoenix Phun Games                26
 Chaos Fractals and Magic          30  Phonedisc USA Business            69
 Chefware                          45  Phonedisc USA Residential         59
 Chess Maniac 5 Billion            37  Photo Pro v.1: Patterns of Nature 70
 Chessmaster 3000 (MPC)            55  Photo Pro v.2: People Doing Thngs 70
 Chessmaster 3000 (MPC) (OEM)      19  Photo Pro v.3: Fotobank           89
 CIA World Fact Book (DOS)         45  Photo Pro v.3: Fotobank (OEM)     17
 CIA World Fact Book (MPC)         50  Photoedge Enhance PhotoCD Images 115
 CIA World Fact Book (OEM) (DOS)   15  Photoedge Enhance (Mac)          115
 CIA World Fact Book (OEM) (MPC)   21  Picture Atlas of the World        60
 CIA World Fact Book (Mac)         35  Picture Factory                   89
 CIA World Tour (MPC) (OEM)        29  Picture Factory (Mac)             89
 CICA Windows August 1993          14  Pier 3                            25
 City 2000                         43  Pilgram Quest                    109
 Classic Clips Horror              39  Pill Book                         35
 Classic Clips Sci Fi              39  Pixel Garden                      28
 Classic Clips Trailers            26  Pixel Perfect Graphics            50
 Classic Clips Vixens              39  Pixel Perfect Graphics (OEM)      17
 Classic Collection+ (4 discs)     51  Plant Doctor                      28
 Clip Art Warehouse (OEM)          12  Placename Index                   29
 Clip Media II (OEM) (MPC)         29  Places to Play                    49
 Clipart (Timeworks)               26  Playing with Languages: English   58
 Clipart Galore                    22  Playing w Languages English (OEM) 25
 Clipart Heaven                    15  Playing with Languages: French    55
 Clipmaster Pro                    30  Playing w Languages: French (OEM) 25
 Coates Art Review: Abstract Art   40  Playing with Languages: German    55
 Coates Art Review: Impressionism  30  Playing w Languages: German (OEM) 25
 College Handbook                  24  Playing with Languages: Japaneese 55
 College Handbook '93              39  Playing w Language Japanese (OEM) 25
 Color Digital Photos v.1 Premier  32  Playing with Languages: Spanish   55
 Color Digital Photos v.2 Space    32  Playing w Languages Spanish (OEM) 25
 Color It (Mac) (OEM)              26  Plummers Don't Wear Ties          29
 Colormagic Clip Art (PC/Mac)      20  Police Quest IV (MPC)             79
 Colossal Cookbook (OEM)           14  Pop & Politics                    60
 Comanche                          79  Power Talk (MPC)                  39
 Companion for Windows             17  Power Talk (MPC) (OEM)            25
 Companion for Wordperfect         17  Power Utilities                   29
 Complete Bookshop                 12  Precision Mapping #1.5            68
 Complete Guide Specl Intrst Video 30  Prescription Drugs                27
 Complete Home/Office Legal Guide  12  Presidents                        46
 Complete House                    29  Presidents (Mac)                  46
 Complete Windows Set              29  Presto Hi Rez Audio (Mac)        109
 Composer Quest                    65  Private Eye Mysteries             53
 Composer Quest (OEM)              26  Professional Tutor Learn Lotus    29
 Compton's Encyclopedia (MPC)(OEM) 52  Professional Tutor Learn Windows  29
 Compton's Family Choice           43  Programmer's ROM                  26
 Compton's Family Choice (OEM)     26  Project Gutenburg                 19
 Compton's Multimedia Golf Guide   34  Prophone end-year 1993 (7 discs)  99
 Compton's Interactive Encl. '94   89  Prophone Business Directory '93   25
 Compton's Interactive '94 (OEM)   69  Protostar                         69
 Compton's Int. Enc. '94 (upgrade) 79  Psycho Killer                     64
 Compton's Int. Enc. '94 (Mac upg) 99  Public Relations Handbook         49
 Computer Industry Almanac '93     19  Publique Arte                     27
 Computer Reference Library        12  Publish It 2.0 (GEM/DOS)          99
 Computerworks                     39  Publish It 2.0 (GEM/DOS) (OEM)    19
 Conan the Cimmerian               39  Publish It 3.0 (Mac)             129
 Conan the Cimmerian (OEM)         25  Publish It 3.1 (Win)              55
 Conquest of the Longbow           49  Publish It 3.1 (Windows) nofonts  44
 Consumer Information Disc         20  Publish It Easy 2.1 (Mac) (OEM)   29
 Cookbook Heaven                   14  Publishers Backgrounds            46
 Corel Art Show III                40  Publishers Paradise Pro           44
 Corel Draw 3.0 (OEM)              79  Publishers Paradise (OEM)         20
 Corel Draw 4.0                   349  Putt-Putt Goes to the Moon        50
 Corel Photo CD Hawaii             79  Putt-Putt Joins the Parade (Mac)  59
 Corel Photo CD Waterfalls         79  Putt-Putt's Fun Pack              27
 Count Basie Multi Record          29  Putt-Putt's Fun Pack (Mac)        39
 CP/M Programs                     20  Q & A
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 Cyber Race (Mac)                  69  Race the Clock                    49
 Cybergenic Ranger                 15  RBBS In A Box v3.1                26
 Daemonsgate                       39  Reader's Library                  20
 Dagger of Amon Ra                 49  Reading Carnival                  49
 Dagger of Amon Ra (OEM)           32  Rebel Assault                     69
 Dandy Dinosaurs                   69  Red Shift                         99
 Danger, Hot Stuff II              24  Red Shift (Mac)                   99
 Dare Bluff or Die!                29  Reel Clips                        25
 Darkseed (MPC)                    69  Reference Library                 79
 Darkseed (Mac)                    69  Reference Library (OEM)           15
 Darwin (PC/Mac)                   99  Resource Library Audio            15
 Data Base Made Easy               20  Resource Library Graphics         15
 Day of the Tentacle               42  Resource Library Language Ops.    20
 Deathstar Arcade Battles          12  Resource Library Multimedia       25
 Deep Voyage (MPC/Mac)             35  Return of the Phantom (enhanced)  40
 Deep Voyage (OEM)                 21  Return to the Moon (MPC)          27
 Dennis Miller News to Me (PC/Mac) 41  Return to Zork                    49
 Desert Storm Coalition Cmd (MPC)  34  Return to Zork (OEM)              29
 Desert Storm Coalition Cmd (Mac)  34  Right College (MPC) (OEM)         23
 Desert Stm Cl Cmd (MPC/Mac) (OEM) 24  Ringworld: Revemge of Patriarch   49
 Desktop Bookshop                  14  Road and Track Auto Guide (PC/Mac 69
 Desktop Imager (OEM)              20  Rock Rap 'n' Roll                 48
 Desktop Publishers Dream Disc     28  Rock Rap 'n' Roll (Mac)           48
 Destination Mars (MPC)            42  Rodney's Funscreen                48
 Dictionaries and Languages        12  Rodney's Funscreen (OEM)          29
 Dictionary of the Living World   109  Rodney's Wonder Window            32
 Dictionary of Living World (OEM)  25  Roger Ebert Movie Companion       27
 Dictionary of Living World (Mac) 119  RoMaterial (MPC)                  26
 Digital Dancing (PC/Mac)          59  RoMaterial (OEM)                  14
 Digital Tours: World of Flight    31  Rotor/Time Bandit/Airball         16
 Digital Tours: World of Trains    31  Russia China vol. 1               79
 Digital Tours: USA Tour           37  Sam and Max Hit THe Road          69
 Dinosaur Adventure                53  Scavenger Hunt Africa (Mac)       49
 Dinosaur Adventure 3D             69  Scenic and Archetecture (Mac)     59
 Dinosaur Adventure (Mac)          69  Scenic and Nature III (Mac)       59
 Dinosaur Adventure (OEM)          20  Schubert: The Trout Quinted       49
 Dinosaur Space Adventure (OEM)    34  Sci-Fi Fantasy                    20
 Dinosaur Discovery                40  Science Adventure II              79
 Dinosaur Discovery (Mac)          40  Scissors Stones                   79
 Dinosaur Discovery (OEM)          29  Scissors Stones (Mac)             79
 Dinosaur Safari (PC/Mac)          69  Scooter's Magic Castle            59
 Dinosaurs! (MPC) (OEM)            25  Scouting Report '92               29
 Dinosaurs! (Mac)                  69  Scrabble Deluxe                   30
 Dinosource                        79  Screen Singer Childrens           39
 Dinosource (Mac)                  89  Screen Singer Christmas           39
 Discoverers                       69  Screen Singer Folk Songs          39
 Discoveries of the Deep           39  SDN Plus                          26
 Distant Suns                      75  Seals of the U.S. Government      27
 DIstant Suns 2.0 (Mac)           109  Secret of Monkey Island           19
 Distant Suns 2 (Win)             109  Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe (OEM) 19
 Dividends                         29  Secrets of Executive Success      30
 Doctor's Book of Home Remedies    39  Selectware System                 29
 Doctor's Book Home Remedies (OEM) 29  Selectware System (OEM)           10
 Don Quixote                       29  Selectware Jukebox (OEM)          19
 Down To Earth (Mac)               69  Selfish Giant (PC/Mac)            59
 Dr. Funpak                        19  Seven Days in August              59
 Dr. Games                         15  Seven Days in August (Mac)        59
 Dr. Games vol II                  19  Shadow of the Comet               69
 Dr. Music                         15  Shakesphere (PC/Mac)              15
 Dr. Shareware                     14  Shakesphere Study Guide           25
 Dr. Shareware vol. II             19  Shakesphere Study Guide (Mac)     25
 Dr. Windows                       14  Shareware 1993                    20
 Dr. Windows vol. II               19  Shareware 1993 Vol. 2             21
 Dracula Unleashed (PC/Mac)        53  Shareware 2 the Maxx              19
 Dragon's Lair                     69  Shareware Avalanche               24
 Dragon's Lair (3DO)               69  Shareware Explorer (4 discs)      37
 Dragon's Lair (Mac)               69  Shareware Explorer DOS            25
 Dragon's Lair for Reelmagic Bd.   79  Shareware Explorer Windows        25
 Dune (OEM)                        35  Shareware Extravaganza (4 discs)  35
 Dvorak on Typing                  63  Shareware Galore                  20
 Eagle Eye Shareware               19  Shareware Gold II                 16
 Early Learning Fun                39  Shareware Heaven (OEM)            15
 Earth Air Fire Water              59  Shareware Heaven v.2 (OEM)        20
 Earth Air Fire Water (Mac)        59  Shareware Magic                   42
 Ecoquest: Search for Cetus (OEM)  26  Shareware Online #1               19
 Edu-tainment Software             20  Shareware Online #2               20
 Education Master, 2'nd Edition    18  Shareware Overload                12
 Educational Disc                  31  Shareware Overload Trio           21
 Educational Gameland              24  Shareware Perlen 2                30
 Educational Software Cooperative  16  Shareware Studio #2               15
 Electricity & Magnetism           40  Shareware Studio #3               20
 Electronic Home Library (OEM)     24  Shareware Supreme                 29
 Electronic Home Library (Mac)     89  Shelley Duvall It's a Bird's Life 59
 E.L.A.: Renaissance Mstrs I (OEM) 30  Shelley Duvall Bird's Life (OEM)  39
 E.L.A.: Renaissance Mstrs I (Mac) 79  Shelley Duvall Bird's Life (Mac)  64
 E.L.A.: Renaissance Mstr II (OEM) 30  Sherlock Holmes                   15
 E.L.A.: Renaissance Mstr II (Mac) 79  Sherlock Holmes C. Det. #1 (OEM)  20
 E.L.A.: Impressionism (OEM)       40  Sherlock Holmes C. Det. #1 (Mac)  62
 E.L.A.: Impressionism (Mac)       79  Sherlock Holmes C. Det. #2 (OEM)  43
 E.L.A.: Survey Western Art (OEM)  30  Sherlock Holmes C. Det. #2 (Mac)  62
 E.L.A.: Survey Western Art (Mac)  69  Sherlock Holmes Cons. Detect. #3  63
 Encapsulated Postscript Pro v.1  129  Sherlock Holmes C. Det. #3 (OEM)  46
 EPS Pro Volume 2                 129  Sherlock Holmes C. Det. #3 (Mac)  79
 Encyclopedia of Clipart           22  Sierra's Sneek Peeks              10
 Encyclopedia of Life (Mac)       119  SIGCAT                             8
 Encyclopedia of Sound             12  Significant Series Windows        15
 Endangered & Threatened Species   29  Sim Ant                           69
 Endangered Species                29  Sim City                          69
 Eric the Unready                  40  Simtel 20                         14
 ESPN Baseball                     56  Sing Along Christmas              22
 ESPN Football                     56  Sing Along Duet Now               20
 Europe Alive                      59  Sing Along Elvis (MPC)            20
 European Monarchs                 26  Sing Along Fireside Love (70-80)  20
 European Racers                   42  Sing Along Kids vol. 1            30
 Everywhere USA                    43  Sing Along Lovin in the '60s      20
 Exotic Garden (MPC)               39  Sing Along Party                  59
 Exotic Japan (Mac)                69  Sing Along Top Top '80s '90s      20
 Expert 3D Home Design (Win)       19  Sitting on the Farm (Mac)         59
 Explore Ancient Archetecture      49  Slater & Charlie                  69
 Eye of the Beholder III (OEM)     29  Sleeping Beauty (MPC)             36
 Eye of the Beholder Trilogy       69  Sleeping Beauty (MPC) (OEM)       16
 F117A / F15 II / Scenario Disk    56  Small Blue Planet (MPC)           59
 F117A Stealth Fighter (OEM)       29  Small Blue Planet (Mac)           69
 F15 Strike Eagle III(enhanced)    69  So Much Modem Madness             29
 F15 Strike Eagle III/F117A (OEM)  35  So Much Screenware                23
 Factomatic Bus. Libr. (PC/Mac)   119  So Much Shareware #2              15
 Factomatic for Executives         39  So Much Shareware #3              20
 Factomatic for Negotiaters        39  So Much Space                     20
 Factomatic for Sales Managers     39  So You Be Rock & Roll Star (MPC)  49
 Factomatic for Supervisors        39  So You Be Rock & Roll Star (Mac)  49
 Family Bible (Multimedia)         65  Softkill (MPC/Mac)                36
 Family Doctor (OEM)               19  Software Jukebox Arcade           40
 Family Education                  24  Software Jukebox Fantasy          50
 Family Education Collection (OEM) 20  Software Treasure Chest           25
 Fantasia Fonts                    26  Software Vault #2                 15
 Fantasy Feifdom                   69  Software Vault Games              24
 Fatty Bear's Birthday Suprise     55  Software Vault Gold               19
 Fatty Bear's Birthday Supr. (Mac) 59  Software Vault Windows            24
 Fatty Bear's Fun Pack  (PC/Mac)   39  Solar Heaven                      15
 Fine Art Poster Catalog           39  Sound Blaster MM Explosion        29
 Firefighter! (MPC)                49  Sound Explorer vol. 1             29
 Firefighter! (Mac)                49  Sound
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 Four Days of Gemini Four          29  Space Quest IV (OEM)              17
 Four Footed Friends               59  Space Series - Apollo             26
 Four Footed Friends (Mac)         59  Space Shuttle                     39
 Four Queens Computer Casino       39  Space Shuttle (OEM)               19
 Fractal Ectasy                    39  Space Shuttle (Mac)               39
 Fractals                          20  Space Visual History (PC/Mac)     49
 Fractools                         30  Space Voyage to the Planets       49
 Fractools III                     37  Space Voyage to Planets (Mac)     49
 Fractunes                         30  Space Wae                         59
 France at it's Best               25  Spaceship Warlock (Mac)           89
 Fred Fish Collection (DOS/CDTV)   54  SpaceTime and Art (QT)            69
 FreeBSD Unix/386                  20  SpaceTime and Art (OEM)           25
 Freephone                         29  Speaker and Toastmaster Library   79
 Fresh Arte                        26  Speed                             79
 Front Row Baseball Cards          34  Spell Casting Party               49
 Full Bloom (PC/Mac)               34  Spellbound                        59
 Full Bloom (OEM)                  22  Spirit of Excalibur               27
 Funny: The Movie (MPC)            33  Sport News Pro Ftball Guide (MPC) 29
 Funny: The Movie (QT)             34  Sports Best on CD                 39
 Futura: Games that go Beyond      14  Sports Best on CD (OEM)           17
 Future Wars                       45  Sports Illustrated Almanac (MPC)  49
 Gabriel Knight (MPC)              64  Sports Illustrated Almanac (Mac)  40
 GAIA Envirnmnt Resource (2 disc)  79  Sports Illustrated Almanac (OEM)  21
 Gallery of Dreams (OEM)           17  Sprite                            14
 Game Arena                        10  Star Child                        30
 Game Collection (Mac)             34  Star Trek Collectables            57
 Game Jamboree                     12  Star Trek 25'th Aniv. Enhanced    69
 Game Master 2'nd Ed.              18  Star Wars Chess (OEM)             20
 Game Master 3'd Edition           23  Stellar 7 (OEM)                   17
 Game Pack 3 (OEM)                 25  StickyBear Preschool Advanced     49
 Games 1993                        20  Stories Murder, Mystery, Terror,  42
 Games Bonanza                     20  Straight from Heaven              15
 Games Collection                  24  Stravinsky: The Rite of Spring    68
 Games Platinum                    15  Street Atlas U.S.A. v2.0          89
 Gameware Collection               14  Street Atlas U.S.A. v2.0 (Mac)    99
 Garbo (DOS\Mac)                   14  Street Rod Nationals #24          24
 Gardening                         12  Strike Commander w/Tac. Missions  89
 Gateway II: Homeworld             49  Student Writing Ctr.              89
 Geekwad Games of the Galaxy       27  Super Arcade Games                25
 GIF It News                       24  Super CD 1 & 2 (2 discs)          20
 GIFs Galaxy                       20  Super CD 3                        20
 GIFs Galore September '93         19  Super Clipart                     13
 Giga Games                        18  Super Fonts                       13
 Gigabyte Gold                     24  Super Fonts (Timeworks)           25
 Global Golf                       82  Super Games for DOS vol. 1        11
 Global Golf (Mac)                 82  Super Games for Windows Vol.1     10
 Goblins 1                         36  Super Games for Windows Vol.2     10
 Goblins 2                         36  Super Games for Windows 1 & 2     20
 Goferwinkles Adventures (DOS)     30  Super Photo Bank                  19
 Goferwinkles Adventures (MPC)     34  Super Photo Collection            31
 Goferwinkles Adventures (Mac)     39  Super Programmer                  20
 Goldilocks and the 3 Bears (MPC)  38  Super Space                       25
 Goldilocks 3 Bears French  (MPC)  45  Super Stacks (Mac)                15
 Goldilocks 3 Bears Spanish (MPC)  45  Super Toons (OEM) (PC/Mac)        29
 Government Giveaways for Entrep.  54  Sure Maps DC and Virginia         99
 Government Spending               35  Sure Maps Massachusetts           99
 Grammy Awards '58-'92             49  Sure Maps Michigan/Indiana        99
 Great Cities vol. 1               20  Sure Maps Midwest                 99
 Great Cities vol. 2               20  Sure Maps New England             99
 Great Cities v1&2                 29  Sure Maps New York                99
 Great Literature (PC/Mac)         49  Sure Maps North Carolina          99
 Great Mystery Classics            46  Sure Maps Northern California     99
 Great Naval Battles               69  Sure Maps Northern Florida        99
 Great Poetry Classics             40  Sure Maps Ohio                    99
 Great Poetry Classics (Mac)       49  Sure Maps Pacific Northwest       99
 Great Wonders of the World v.1    43  Sure Maps Pennsylvania            99
 Great Wonders of the World v.2    45  Sure Maps Rockies                 99
 Greatest Books Collection         35  Sure Maps South U.S.              99
 Greatest Books Collection (Mac)   49  Sure Maps Southern California     99
 Greens Golf                       39  Sure Maps Southern Florida        99
 Grolier's Encycl. v6 (OEM) (MPC)  39  Sure Maps Southwest               99
 Grooves (MPC)                    119  Sure Maps Texas                   99
 Guiness Disc of Records '91 (OEM) 12  Sure Maps Upper Midwest           99
 Guiness D. Records 92 (Mac) (OEM) 12  Surf's Up                         29
 Guiness D. Records 93 (MPC) (OEM) 21  Sweet and Low: American Folksongs 41
 Guiness D. Records 93 (Mac) (OEM) 29  Swimwear 1993                     25
 Guns of the Old West (Mac)        36  Swiss Family Robinson (Mac)       69
 Gunship 2000 (OEM)                27  Tales of the Wild Zeep (PC/Mac)   59
 Guy Spy                           43  Talking Classic Tales (OEM)       27
 Guy Spy (OEM)                     26  Talking Classic Tales (Mac)       74
 Hacker Chronicles                 29  Talking Jungle Safari (OEM)       27
 Hacker Chronicles (OEM)           20  Talking Jungle Safari (Mac)       66
 Ham Radio #3                      12  Talking Schoolhouse (OEM)         36
 Hamcall                           42  Tao of Cow                        29
 Hamware 1993                      20  Team NFL Magazine (Mac)           24
 Harrier                           79  Tech Arsenal                      22
 Harry's Storydisc Color Bk (OEM)  24  Technotools                       12
 Hawaii High Mystery Tiki (PC/Mac) 59  Telltale Heart                    56
 HBO It's All Relative (MPC)       53  Tempra Photo CD Access (OEM)      13
 HBO It's All Relative (Mac)       53  Terminator 2 Chess Wars           49
 Healing Foods Cookbook (PC/Mac)   35  Terror of the Deep                59
 Health & Medical Industry Dir.    28  Terror of the Deep (Mac)          59
 Heart - The Engine of Life        89  Terrorist Group Profiles          25
 Hell Cab (MPC)                    69  Tetris Gold                       54
 Hell Cab (Mac)                    69  TFX*                              79
 Herald Tribune Intnl Travel Guide 29  Things Change 1'st Time           69
 Heroic Tales (MPC)                59  Time Desert Storm (OEM)           19
 Heroic Tales (Mac)                59  Time Desert Storm (Mac)           33
 History of the World              79  Time Mag Almanac '93 (MPC) (OEM   29
 Hobbes OS/2 Archives October 1993 14  Time Man of the Year (MPC)        25
 Hobby Corner                      31  Time Traveler (Mac)              129
 Hobby Grab Bag                    11  Timetable of Arts/Entertain (OEM) 20
 Hollywood Classics                39  Timetable of Business/Polit (OEM) 20
 Hollywood the Bizarre             43  Timetable of Science/Innov (OEM)  19
 Holy Bible                        16  Timetable of Science (Mac) (OEM)  25
 Home Computer Starter Pack        30  Tony LaRussa Baseball II          55
 Home Medical Advisor Pro          63  Too Many Typefonts                12
 Hong Kong at it's Best            20  Top 2000+ Shareware (OEM)         20
 Hospitality Index                 30  Tornado (OEM)                     39
 Hot Lines                         41  Tortoise and the Hare (MPC)       42
 Hot News                          22  Tortoise and the Hare (Mac)       49
 Hot Sound and Vision              25  Total Baseball 1993 (OEM)         22
 Hot Stuff 2                       26  Total Distortion (Mac)            99
 Hound of the Baskervilles         36  Total Heart (Mayo Clinic) (MPC)   45
 House of Games                    15  Total Heart (Mayo Clinic) (Mac)   55
 House of Games II                 20  Touch the Music Duke (PC/Mac)     39
 How Computers Work (Mac)          67  Touch the Music SF Rock (PC/Mac)  39
 How it's Done                     34  Town With No Name                 59
 Hugo & Nebula Anthology 1993      29  Tranz                             36
 Hugo's House of Horrors           12  Travel Companion (OEM)            25
 Human Calculator                  29  Travel Planner Gold               49
 Humans                            34  Triple Play English (MPC)         89
 Hyper Backgammon                  29  Triple Play French (MPC)          89
 I Photograph to Remember (Mac)    34  Triple Play Spanish (MPC)         89
 Illust. Facts: How Things Work    36  Triple Tetris Challenge           34
 Illustr. World Works (PC/Mac)     36  Tropical Rainforest               36
 Images of NASA                    23  Trouble in Mind                   39
 Images with Impact (OEM)         109  Trump Castle                      28
 In Print Art Library (OEM)        24  Tuneland (MPC)                    49
 In the Company of Whales          45  Twain's World (MPC)               39
 Inca                              46  Twelve Roads to Gettysburg        29
 Indiana Jones & Fate of Atlantis  43  Twelv
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11541
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/04/94  1:08p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 5 OF 5                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Interactive Story Time 3          20  U.S. Civics                       26
 International Business/Econ Atla  16  U.S. History (OEM)                22
 International Intel. Factbook     59  U.S. History (Mac)                35
 Internet Docs                     24  U.S. Presidents (OEM)             27
 Internet Info                     24  U.S. Presidents (Mac)             39
 Introduction to Classical Music   45  U.S. / World Atlas                20
 Iron Helix                        75  U.S.A. East/West                 109
 Iron Helix (Mac)                  60  U.S.A. State Factbook             29
 Island Designs (2 disc) (OEM)     28  U.S.A. State Factbook (update)    22
 It All Started w/George Prsdnts   99  U.S.A. Tour                       31
 It's a Dog's Life                 53  U.S.A. Wars: Civil War (OEM)      27
 It's a Wonderfull Life (OEM)      19  U.S.A. Wars: Desert Storm (OEM)   30
 ITN World News 1992 (MPC)         60  U.S.A. Wars: Korea (OEM)          29
 ITN World News 1992 (Mac)         99  U.S.A. Wars: Vietnam (OEM)        25
 J. Schumaker New Prague Cookbook  26  U.S.A. Wars: World War II (OEM)   27
 Jack and the Beanstalk            41  USA Today: The 90's v.1           55
 Japan Business Travel             37  User's Choice Windows             19
 Jazz: A Multimedia History (MPC)  68  VGA Spectrum #1                   10
 Jazz: A Multimedia History (Mac)  59  VGA Spectrum #2                   15
 Jazz Traditions                   45  Victor Maxx Virtual Arcade        69
 JCSM Shareware Collection         19  Victor Vector: Vamp. Coffin (OEM) 36
 Jets and Props (OEM)              19  Victor Vector: Vamp. Coffin (Mac) 67
 JFK Assasination: Visual Invstgt. 39  Victor Vector Last Dino Egg (OEM) 39
 JFK Assassination Encyclopedia    39  Victor Vector Last Dino Egg (Mac) 67
 Jokes and Pranks                  10  Victor Vector Hypnotic Harp (OEM) 39
 Jones in the Fast Lane (OEM)      17  Victor Vector: Cyber. Form. (OEM) 39
 Journey to the Planets            69  Victor Vector: Telf. Ray    (OEM) 45
 Journeyman Project (MPC)          60  Video Cube Space                  69
 Journeyman Project (Mac)          50  Video Cube Sports                 69
 Jump Raven (Mac)                  69  Video for Windows                 36
 Jurassic Dinosaurs (OEM)          24  Video Movie Guide (MPC/Mac)       35
 Jurassic Dinosaurs (Mac)          49  Vietnam Explorer                  30
 Jurassic Park                     64  View from Earth                   60
 Just Fonts                        20  View from Earth (Mac)             75
 Just Games                        19  Viking Opera Guide                99
 Just Grandma and Me (OEM)         29  Virtual 3D                        29
 Just Grandma & Me (Mac)           48  Virtual Murder (MPC)              69
 Jutland                           41  Virtual Reality Starter Kit       50
 Kaa's Hunting                     35  Virus Killer Pro                  49
 Kaboom  (PC/Mac)                  49  Visions of Saturn                 20
 Kaleidosconics (MPC)              26  Vista Pro v3.0                   129
 Kathy Smith's Fat Burning System  59  Vital Signs (Mac)                 69
 KGB/CIA World Factbook (OEM)      33  Vitsie Visits Dinosaurs (PC/Mac)  39
 KGB World Fact Book               23  Vitsie Visits Outer Spce (PC/Mac) 39
 Key Fonts Pro (PC/Mac)            30  Vitsie Visits The Ocean (PC/Mac)  39
 Key Home Designer                 29  Vivaldi                           29
 Kid Fun                           46  Vivaldi (Mac)                     38
 Kid Works 2 (PC/Mac)              59  Vocabulearn French                46
 Kids Can Read: Aesop's Fables     26  Vocanulearn French (Mac)          49
 Kids Can Read: Benjamin Bunny     26  Vocabulearn Spanish               46
 KCR: Cinderella (PC/Mac)          26  Vocanulearn Spanish (Mac)         49
 KCR: Heather Hits First Home Run  23  Wacky Funsters!                   26
 KCR: Long Hard Day at the Ranch   26  Washington D.C. at it's Best      20
 KCR: Moving Gives Me Stomachache  23  Washington Times/Insight on News 119
 Kids Can Read: Mud Puddle         26  Wave Pool                         16
 Kids Can Read: Paper Bag Princess 26  Way Cool Windows                  19
 KCR: Scary Poems for Rotten Kids  26  Wayzata Desktop Pub. Bundle      129
 KCR: The Tale of Peter Rabbit     26  Wayzata Entertainment Bund (Mac) 129
 Kids Can Read: Thomas's Snowsuit  30  Wayzata Multimedia Bundle        129
 Kids Collection                   19  Wayzata Reference Bundle         129
 Kids Zoo                          69  Wayzata World Factbook '93 (OEM)  17
 Kids Zoo (Mac)                    69  Whale of a Tale                   60
 King Arthur Magic (Mac)           49  Whale of a Tale (Mac)             89
 King James Bible                  21  Whales and Dolphins               69
 King's Quest V (OEM)              17  Where in USA is Carmen Deluxe     69
 King's Quest VI (OEM)             28  Where World Carmen Deluxe (OEM)   23
 King's Quest VI (Upgrade)         30  Where World Carmen Deluxe (Mac)   69
 King's Ransom                     43  White Horse Child (OEM)           24
 Klotski Polish Puzzle             14  White Horse Child (Mac)           46
 Knowlage Adventure                64  Who Killed Sam Rupert? (OEM)      26
 Kodak Photo CD Access (OEM)       14  Wild Learning Safari              31
 Kodak Photo CD Access (Mac) (OEM) 18  Wild Places (OEM)                 16
 La Coleccion                      20  Wild Wierd and Wacky              79
 Labyrinth of Time                 57  Wild Wierd and Wacky (Mac)        79
 LAN Master                        23  Wildcat! Gold                     35
 Lands of Lore                     61  WinCD                             39
 Language Discovery                48  WinCD (OEM)                       24
 Language Discovery (Mac)          49  Wind in the Willows               69
 Language Discovery (OEM)          36  Window Master                     19
 Languages of the World (MPC)(OEM) 25  Windoware                         12
 Laser Printer Companion (OEM)     14  Windows 1993                      21
 Lasersoft Animal Magic            29  Windows Collection                26
 Lasersoft Banners                 26  Windows Explorer 2                30
 Lasersoft Clip Art and Fonts      26  Windows Heaven                    28
 Lasersoft Labels                  29  Windows Shareware Gold Vol. 3 #1  20
 Lasersoft Pinball                 26  Wines of the World (PC/Mac)       55
 Lasersoft Publisher               39  Wing Commander / Ultima VI (OEM)  19
 Lasersoft Video Gambling          26  Wing Cmmdr/Secret Miss. 1&2       68
 Last Chance to See (Mac)          41  Wing Commander II/Ult. Undw (OEM) 40
 Lawnmower Man (MPC)               69  Wing Commander II Deluxe          50
 Lawnmower Man (Mac)               69  Winning Elections (PC/Mac)        45
 Leader Board Collection           26  Wiz-Pak 6-pak CD-ROM              13
 Learn to Play Guitar (MPC)        39  Wizard of Oz                      59
 Learn to Speak English (MPC 2D)   69  Wolfpack                          49
 Learn to Speak English (Mac 2D)   89  Women in Motion                   56
 Learn to Speak French (Mac 2D)    89  Women of Venus                    26
 Learning Adventure                10  Word Tales (PC/Mac)               49
 Learning At Home: Berenstein Bear 39  World Atlas 3.0 (Mac) (OEM)       24
 Learning Fly Fishing              29  World Atlas 4.0 (MPC) (OEM)       20
 Learning Fun for Kids             29  World Circuit                     69
 Learning Heaven                   15  World Literatary Heritage         69
 Legend of Kyrandia (OEM)          34  World of Animals (Nt Ggrph) (OEM) 34
 Legend of Kyrandia (Mac)          68  World of Computer Software        33
 Legend of Oz (PC/Mac)             69  World of Shareware                35
 Leisure Suit Larry I              54  World of Software 1               29
 Leisure Suit Larry VI             69  World of Software 2               29
 Lenny's Music Tunes (DOS)         42  World of Software 3               29
 Lenny's Music Tunes (Mac)         48  World of Software Bundle          49
 Lesko's Information USA           52  World Religions                   30
 Let's Go Budget Guide CA & HI '93 25  World Traveller Vol. 1            12
 Let's Go Budget Guide US (PC/Mac) 25  World View (PC/Mac)               31
 Libris Britania                   34  World View (OEM)                  17
 LifeMap: Animals (Mac)            35  World Vision (3 discs)            38
 LifeMap Animals w/ Backbone (Mac) 35  World Vista Atlas (MPC)           40
 LifeMap: Organic Diversity (Mac)  35  World Vista Atlas (Mac)           59
 Lifestyles of Rich Fame. Cookbook 30  World War II                      39
 Lightning (cache program)         69  Worldwide Adventures              46
 Line and the Shape Eater          34  Wrath of the Demon                39
 Links Collectors CD               40  Wrath of the Demon (OEM)          19
 Linkworlds                        33  Wrath of the Gods (PC/Mac)        69
 LINUX / GNU / X-Windows           29  Writing Center (Mac)              99
 Lion's Share                      34  X11R5 / GNU                       20
 Little Red Riding Hood            46  Yearn to Learn Peanuts            65
 Loom (OEM)                        17  Yearn to Learn Snoopy             65
 Loon Magic                        59  Yoga (Multimedia)                 30
 Lord of the Rings Enhanced        50  Zillion Sounds                    25
 Lost in Time                      39
 Lost Treasures of Infocom I       50
 Lost Treasures of Infocom II      38  Jewel Cases 50/$30 10/$7  5/$4  1/$1
 Lotus 1-2-3 v3.1 (OEM)            79  Caddies    50/$215 10/$46 5/$24 1/$5

 I also carry the complete Ziff Press line of books, and most of the IDG
 Books Worldwide "Dummies" series of books (especially the Gookin titles)!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11542
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 02/04/94  1:17p
Subj: MACINTOSH SHAREWARE.                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>We're working on the definitive use for your cdrom drive while you're not
>actively using it. It's a series of screen savers (adult)

 OK so far!

>Currently, it's Mac only.

 BOOO!!!!!

>Am I the only one who thinks DOS VESA video is the way to go?

 NO. If it's not for DOS, I have no use for it.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Windows is good, and Andrew didn't cause any damage....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11543
  To: CHARLES STRUSZ                           Date: 02/04/94  1:39p
Subj: NON DOS CD'S FOR DOS MACH               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I'd like to put some MAC and AMIGA files online for my BBS users.

>Can anyone suggest a couple of titles that I can shovel into my DOS clone bbs

 garbo for the Mac stuff (Info-Mac is better, but it's HPS not ISO-9660 so not
usable for your application).

 For the Amiga, the Aminet disc should work out well.


 See my price list a couple of messages back for price and order information (I
think they are $14 each).


 * SLMR 2.1a * Friends come and go, but enemies accumulate....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11544
  To: BERNIE JARZABEK                          Date: 02/04/94  3:00p
Subj: CD CHANGER                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>I'm looking for a 3 to 6 cd changer for my bbs.   Need at least 300kbs speed.

Pioneer DRM-602X or DRM-604X.

 But WHY do you think you need a fast CD-ROM drive on your BBS?


 * SLMR 2.1a * "We must laugh at man, to avoid crying for him" Napoleon

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From: LEW MURRAY                             Number: 11545
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  8:55p
Subj: Mitsumi Upgrade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a brand new double spin Mitsumi FX001.  I don't really need a
double spin drive so I'm willing to trade mine for a regular LU005 plus
$80.  Any body out there wish they'd waited a little while to get a
double spin?   Call Lew at 504-888-8366

___
 X OLX 2.1 TD X It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11546
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  1:53a
Subj: HOTTEST NEW SHAREWARE CD!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |     Title:  CD POWERBOX 2     |  |     $25.60      |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

      ** IT'S HERE! **  And be sure to check our great bonus paks below!
      ** BBS file support for Spitfire, PCBoard, Wildcat and others!

      The nicest BBS-ready shareware CD on the market has arrived!
      CD Powerbox 2.00 is a shareware disc featuring 600 Megs worth
      of brand new, PURE 1993 shareware files, with one HUGE difference!
      It contains Damar's new UNVIVERSAL INTERFACE or UI.  The UI offers
      the ability to manage most or all of your shareware CD's, without
      the hassle of always changing interfaces!  Here are some of its
      outstanding and unique features............................

      * Automatic installation of shareware disks
      * Support for over 15 different disks
      * New titles being added constantly!
      * Add or Remove titles with the click of the mouse button
      * Windows or DOS-based with Rich context-sensitive online help
      * Windows interface supports voice commands!
      * Quick and easy search feature to find specific programs
      * Copy an archive to your hard drive or install it directly off a CD!
      * View inside an archive right off the ROM!

      The UI is a commercial program and is NOT considered shareware.
      There is no cost for the UI when purchased with any of the Damar
      Enterprises CD-ROM products!

      The % of dupes between PowerBox2 and NOWL10 = 7.94% * PIER3 = 12.85%

 File dates.....    1993  File   %    Apx 'K'    %
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+------------------+   3   661 12.2%    53,387  8.8%   | files than Night |
| File listing     |   4   371  6.8%    33,852  5.6%   | Owl 10!          |
| available on the |   5   245  4.5%    22,427  3.7%   +------------------+
| Starvector BBS:  |   6    93  1.7%    10,369  1.7%
| 509-457-0206     |   7   852 15.7%   116,232 19.3%
+------------------+   8 2,162 39.7%   283,195 46.9%
                       9    24  0.4%     2,431  0.4%
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                      11    76  1.4%     8,997  1.5%
                      12     0  0.0%         0  0.0%

 SPECIAL BONUS PAKS:
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 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4.50 to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * This tagline will self-destruct in 5-million nanoseconds.

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From: DICK WALSH                             Number: 11547
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/06/94  9:38a
Subj: ADVERTISING                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well I guess when it comes to spelling names   CLOSE only counts in Horshoes 
<GRIN>

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From: DICK WALSH                             Number: 11548
  To: TONY WHITE                               Date: 02/06/94  9:54a
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Tony  I sent you a check for the CD's you offered   We talked twice on the
phone about them    Did you ship them to me via UPS.   I am not worried
as I know you have to have time to let the check clear.  But I would like
to know when you do ship them.  <Dick>

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From: RAY DENALLI                            Number: 11549
  To: MARK COHEN                               Date: 02/06/94  9:45p
Subj: RE: FLORIDA STATUTES                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks.

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 11550
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 02/06/94  6:39a
Subj: Cd's For SAle                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Check is in the mail!

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From: HOWARD RICE                            Number: 11551
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/31/94 11:28p
Subj: Dual Speed & sound cards                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Panasonic Dual Speed Cd-romm chainable to 4.  No caddy, electronic
  slide tray with front volume and headphone outlet.  With
  controller and Audio CD cable.                            $229.00

----VOICE sound system build your own multimedia and save.

 CreativeLabs Sound Blaster 16MultiCD.  CDrom interface for
 Creative, Sony & Mitsumi (SS/DS).  Sound Blaster, MPC, Windows 3.1,
 OS/2 2.0 and above.  Mpu-401 Uart & Midi interface.  With
 VoiceAssist Speech Recognition System, Pc Anbimate Plus, Monologue
 for Windows, HSC interActive & Wave Studio, Soundo'le, Talking
 Scheduler, Mosaic, SBTalker, FM inteligent Organ, SBSIM, MMPLay,
 SBMidi, Dos & windows drivers.  Upgrade option for Advanced Signal
 Processing Technology & Wave Blaster.  Microphone with auto gain
 AGC amplifier.  All usual ports and pins connectors besides for
 CD-roms. With Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia.   $198.00

 Sound  Galaxy  NX  Pro  16 cards for sale. 16 bit 44khz sound.
  Supports FIVE sound standards: SoundBlasterPro II, Adlib, Covox
  Speech Thing,  Disney  Sound Source, MS Windows Sound System.
  Supports optional wave table synthesis.  Built in CD-ROM interface
  for Mitsumi(SU#), Panasonic(dual speed) and Sound Blaster CD-ROM
  drives. Option for Sony drives. Optional SCSI CD-ROM interface
  available.($39)  On board mixer for FM, DAC, Covox, Sound Source,
  CD audio, Microphone, Line-in, PC internal speaker. Built-in MIDI
  interface, 4 Watt amp & joystick port. Comes with a microphone and
  headphones, and bundled software including audio CD player,
  Windows 3.1 mixer & much more. Drivers & software by Voyetra
  included! Includes Monologue text to speech software!      $169

 Golden Soundcard Pro II 16bit by TopTek w/CD audio, stereo
  Surround,MPU-401, GS, MT-32 Mixer, Digital voice, speech, FM
  music, Line in-out, and game port. Has Panasonic CDrom interface
  (tested dual speed with Aris Wizard) AND external mic sensitivity
  control. Software: Sound developers Library, Multimedia
  Presentaions Editor (Topshow), Digital Collection Voxpak, Dos &
  Windows drivers and speaker cable. Compatible with Windows &
  Multimeida extensions, Sound Blaster, Ad Lib, MPC and Covex. $139

 Master Boomer Sound Plaster II/Adlib compatible. 8 bit.
  Multi-media/speech/sound/midi-port/ CD-ROM LINE-IN(works great
  with Mitsumi SS)/ game prt/ Mini-stereo speakers.  Digi Voice
  output 4KHz to 44.1KHz; Voice input: 8bit analog to digital
  conversion; Mic input amp and CD mixer; joy stick port; MIDI
  interface 64 byte buffer and time stamp. 4 watts per channel
  ampli. Master tracks coupon.  Util disks. Passprot Designs Trax
  V2.2 disks. Trax Midi Sequencing Users guide. *             $89

 Bundled MPC W I T H  A B O V E:
    US, WORLD Atlas, Mavis Typing and Chess 3000      $29.00

 Adlib copycat and compatible (Pc Symphony) w/mini stereo speakers
  integrated w/pc speaker connector. Built in 4 watt amp, volume
  control. Has an adapter to let you play through the PC speaker as
  well as external speakers or headphones. Hear Epogee's
  Wolfinstein/Keen4/Jman musical games       * $ 3 9 .

   Miniture Sterio speakers: Use with sound cards or cassette
               players.  About 4" high by 3" deep wedge shaped.  $8.50
   Microphone (hand type) for any card with mic-input jack.      $8.50

----Mice
  VM-2 3button mouse & software MS compatible   lists  $24.95   $15.00
   M-2 3button mouse & Halo III software  Closeout     $49.00   $19.00
   T-2 TrackBall mouse MS comp.  Software       lists  $65.95   $43.00
  RI-1 Remote cordless mouse MScp Software battery charger      $49.00
----Joy Sticks
   Small Joystick (like Kraft)                                  $17.95

   Sniper Joystick with A & B buttons on Stick.  Suckion cups $19.95

   Advanced Analog Gravis Joystick 3 button                   $39.00
-----FaxModem
 9600s/24 Zoltrix Fax/Modem new w/sftware                       $49

   Howard Rice 708-433-0074  9to5  no answering machine!
   1805 St.Johns Ave. Highland Park, IL. 60035

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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 11552
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  7:31p
Subj: Mitsumi Drive                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mitsumi single speed internal CD Rom drive. In the box with all docs
including controller card. Very little use.

$129.00 plus shipping.


Ron
813-978-0527

    WinQwk 2.0 a#435


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 11553
  To: DAVID MANZ                               Date: 02/06/94  2:03a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DM>You qoute your price for 7th Guest as $45.00 is this the OEM version or the
DM>Full box set? Just wondering how my prices stack up. I have the OEM version
DM>for
DM>$32.00 and the box set for $63.00..

If the OEM does not have the manual, how could I play the game?   Also,
what about the reg card?  Is it included too?  Thanks

Randy Neuner


 * QMPro 1.52 * Searching for light in the darkness of insanity.


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 11554
  To: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                        Date: 02/06/94  2:07a
Subj: adult cd's sale/trade                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FCJ>Have the following cd's for trade or sale. Only one copy of each is availab

FCJ>Storm 1: 700+Megs Gifs,text files, movies    $27.00

FCJ>Volcano:  Gifs 375 Megs.  $53.00

FCJ>Visual Fantasies II : 2,642 Gifs.   $27.00


Frank, I will trade for any of the above for any of the below (1 to 1):
Giffy Gold
Storm III
Adult Reference Library

Randy Neuner


 * QMPro 1.52 * I'm wobbling and I can't fall down!     Weeble


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From: CHAD HJELLE                            Number: 11555
  To: ALAN EVANS                               Date: 02/04/94  6:55a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Software Elimination         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 AE> discs for $15 each, unless otherwise noted, while supplies last. 
 AE> Black Box Shareware #4          Black Box Shareware #5 
 AE> Black Box Shareware #6 
Could you give me information on the above disks, such as how recent
they are, how many megabytes of programs on each, and are they BBS ready
(with FILES.BBS in each directory).  I just got a CD-ROM for my BBS and
I want to get a shareware disk to go with it.  Thanks.

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 11556
  To: CHRIS CONKLIN                            Date: 02/05/94 12:45p
Subj: Thanks                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Chris,   I received the replacement for the dead CD-ROM drive.  It works
well, and I am happy.  The drive came only four days after I had sent it
out.  The first drive definetely had problems.  This drive is basically
silent, whereas the first drive was extremely loud.  Anyway,  thanks for
handeling this problem professionally and effiently.  I am satisfied and
I am writing a note to "ALL" users letting them know you are a
trustworthy vendor.
                              Shane Snyder
 ps.  Could I please get a copy of the booklet that was to be included
 with the drive? you mentioned someone forgot to put one in with my
 package.  Please send me one out.
                                286 Main St. Apt.#3
                                Greenville, PA  16125

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 11557
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/05/94 12:48p
Subj: Chris Conklin                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I just wanted to tell everyone the Chris Conklin of C-3 Production
Systems is a great vendor in my opinion.  We had a difficult situation
as a factory sealed CD-ROM drive he sold me was D.O.A.  He quickly
resolved this problem and I had a new drive within a week.  I realize
that problems such as these are beyond the control of the vendor, but I
am grateful that he called me long-distance and assured me that I would
have a working drive soon.  Anyway, I give him "thumbs-up".

 þ SLMR 2.1a þ 

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 11558
  To: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                        Date: 02/06/94  2:05p
Subj: adult cd's trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FCJ>XX Extreme: 614 Megs Gifs, Movies..... $27.00
FCJ>Storm I : 700 Megs Gifs,Movies,Text Files....  $27.00
FCJ>Storm II : 5,1129 files, Gifs,Movies.   $28.00
FCJ>Visual Fantasies: 2,500 Gifs, 466 Megs.  $27.00
FCJ>Physical Therapy:  Gifs,Movies,Text.....  $27.00
FCJ>Volcano:  375 Megs Gifs.....   $53.00
FCJ>Visual Fantasies II : 2,642 Gifs....  $27.00

I have Animation Fantasies I or So Much Shareware  CD-ROMs I will offer
as trade for any of the above (oreferably XX Extreme).
                        Shane
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 11559
  To: NINO FAGAN                               Date: 02/03/94  5:15p
Subj: Top Drawer Stats                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NF>Thanks for the comprehensive report Jim.  I only wish there were a 
  >program that could go into each archive and find the least dated .EXE 
  >or .COM file.  I'll bet of the 199 files above most are updated (and 
  >I do mean dated) .DOC file or an added .DOC file with the latter date. 
 
The 1994 files are not old files with new docs.  Generally speaking, 
when a doc is updated, it is to document the changes to the program. 
That means the program has also been updated. 
 
NF>I do think I'll get that one though, with so many OS/2 files at 20 
  >bucks, good deal. 
 
I can honestly say there is not a better shareware disc available, let 
alone for $19.00.  Give us a call if you would like to order one. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Orders, File Lists, Catalogs 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 11560
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/04/94  7:07p
Subj: Shareware CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                     Computer Works CD-Rom Sales 
                          Shareware Titles 
 
Big Sky Rom             $26        Shareware Explorer 4 CD's       $49 
CICA Microsoft Windows  $14        Shareware Extravaganza 4 CD's   $42 
Cream of the Crop II    $29        Shareware Online 2              $29 
GameWare Collection     $22        Shareware Overload              $12 
Giga Games              $18        Shareware Studio 2              $23 
Hacker Chronicles       $25        So Much Modem Madness           $29 
Hamware 1993            $27        So Much Shareware 3             $26 
Hobbes OS/2 - Oct 1993  $14        Software Vault Gold             $27 
Night Owl 11            $30        Software Vault Games            $24 
OS/2 Box                $29        Software Vault Windows          $24 
Pier 2                  $26        Tech Arsenal                    $20 
Pier 3                  $32        Top Drawer  (New!)              $19 
 
Mastercard & Visa accepted.  Orders may be placed online our BBS 24 
hours per day or called in on our voice line.  File lists for most 
popular discs are available for download. 
 
Computer Works          BBS    (205) 671-0092 
CD-Rom Sales            Voice  (205) 793-4481 
 - JetMail v1.14 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire
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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 11561
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/04/94  5:07p
Subj: Creative Labs CD-ROM Upgrades           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

************************ CD ROM UPGRADE PACKAGES ***************************

CREATIVE LABS INC.  
------------------

                          GAME BLASTER CD 16

A tremendous kit for the game enthusiast! Inculde 7 popular games, plus
SOUNDBLASTER 16, CREATIVE DOUBLE-SPEED CD-ROM DRIVE, CREATIVE CD BLASTER,
Speakers and Joystick!  Bundled software: RETURN TO ZORK, REBEL ASSAULT,
IRON HELIX, SIM CITY 2000, CREATIVE CD BLASTER which includes: Lemmings,
Indianapolis 500, The Simulation, Easy Keys music package, AVI Files,
WAV Files, MIDI Files, Creative WaveStudio, Creative Sound LE, Creative
Mosaic, and Creative Talking.

GAME BLASTER CD 16 MCD.........................................$389.99
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                          OMNI CD UPGRADE KIT 

Offering Unparalleled Performance, The Double Speed CD-ROM Drive is 
Multi-Session Photo CD Compatible, full MPC LEVEL 2 Compliant and features
a convenient front-loading tray, a front panel Head Phone Jack and volume
control for playback of audio CDs.  The Creative Omni CD Upgrade Kit.
Support all PCS and Sound Cards.  Double Speed, 300 KB/SEC Transfer Rate,
Fast Data Access of 350MS, Large Storage Capability, MULTI-SESSION PHOTO
CD COMPATIBLE, MPC LEVEL 2 COMPLAINT, For use in systems with or without
Sound Cards.  Software Included: Aldus Photostyler SE, Photo CD Access
and editing software, and QUICK CD, DOS, AND Windows based audio CD Player.

CREATIVE OMNI CD UPGRADE.......................................$249.00
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*********************** AZTECH LABS, INC. ********************************

AZTECH CDA 268A-10A KIT NMC

Double Speed CD-ROM Drive M/300 KB/SEC Data Transfer Rate.  Fully KODAK
Photo CD Compatible, Both Single and Multiple session.  MOTORIZED DISK 
RETURN TECHNOLOGY (MDR).  Direct CD PLAY and TRACK SKIPPING button on 
front Panel.  Front Panel Volume Headphone.  Rear Panel Digital Audio
Output (VIDEO ON CD READY).  Rear Panel Analogue Audio Outpup.  Meets the
Requirements of MPC LEVEL II.  NO NEED FOR A CADDY.  Does Include The
CDROM Interface Kit.

AZTECH CDA 268A-10A KIT NMC....................................$178.50
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Don't miss out on these new all time low prices on MPC LEVEL II CD-ROM 
Upgrades.  Call to order yours today.

Payment Policies: We accept VISA, MASTERCARD, COD, Checks and Money Orders.  
Prices and availability subject to change without notice. Add $5.00 for 
COD charges.  Make all checks and Money Orders payable to Digital Broadcast 
Video and mail them to the following address.

                            DIGITAL BROADCAST VIDEO
                             3318 South 7th Street
                              Abilene, TX 79605
    
    Voice (915)673-1911  BBS (915)673-8181 2400 N81  FAX (915)673-8173
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 11562
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/05/94  2:42a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E

* Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous Versions
* All Zipped Files      * New Viewer     * 60% Files Released last 90 days
"Night Owl 11. "  offer's over 4,500 all new files and supports for areas
such as Windows, OS/2, Games, Fonts, Ham Radio, Lan, Business and more !
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
   Best Of The Best - Night Owl 11. + Cream Of The Crop II - $50.00

ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Be Young! Have Fun! Use Silver Xpress!
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From: VIC HLUSHAK                            Number: 11563
  To: KEVIN MARKOWITZ                          Date: 02/05/94  5:51a
Subj: CD-ROM Magazine                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (17 Jan 94) Kevin Markowitz wrote to All...

 KM> Hi All,
 KM> 
 KM> Does anyone know of a CD-ROM magazine that is available, called
 KM> "Nautilus" <sp?>.  It comes out monthly, and is like any normal

Hi there,  I ordered this cd from a ad in Pc Mag, not here yet though.
I see the ads in quite a few computer mags. If you want I can comment
after I see it.

TTYL


... Vic Hlushak..Fort McMurray..Alberta..Canada

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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 11564
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 02/01/94  3:55p
Subj: Cd's For SAle                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <25 Jan 94  21:49:38>, Jeff Jenkins (1:114/1) writes:
 >Will take  Women Of Venus...
 >give me your address...does 13.00 include shipping?
No, it doesn't. I ask $1.50 for shipping for a total of $14.50. Send it to:
        Ryan Denke
        519 Downey Hall
        Laramie, Wy 82070
Check or Money order, whatever. I will get it out when I recieve money. Please
let me know if you send money or if you decide not to. I will hold it until the
15th. You may call 307-766-7917 if you have any questions.

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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 11565
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 02/01/94  4:05p
Subj: Re: Cd's For Sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <26 Jan 94  23:34:00>, Eddie Phillips (1:151/151) writes:
 > RD> The women of Venus - a nice swimsuit CD - $13
 >If you'll deliver it for $13, I'll take it....let me know your address 
Sorry, it does not include shipping and I am holding it for someone else.If you
are still interested, if the other person doesn't reply, it is yours for
$14.50.


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 11566
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 02/01/94  4:08p
Subj: Cd's For SAle                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message of <27 Jan 94  08:03:31>, Scott Raley (1:2612/104) writes:
 >I will give you $12 shipped on the Women of Venus cd.
Sorry, I have recieved my asking price.


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From: DAVID SHORT                            Number: 11567
  To: BOB HAMILTON                             Date: 02/05/94  6:10a
Subj: DRM 600                                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

     Considering this unit sells new for around 500 exactly what do you expect
to get out of it.  I'm interested but not rich.  As long as it's in top shape
with all hardware /software I'll offer $400.

                                                       Dave Short
Med Tech BBS  (804) 973-5639 14.4K 1+Gig Files, DOORs,  WME/Yankee Nets

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From: DAVID SHORT                            Number: 11568
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 02/05/94  6:10a
Subj: storm purchase                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     How much for each CD COD as I like to check my packages before sending
cash.  (business attitude, sorry)

                                                  Dave S.
Med Tech BBS  (804) 973-5639 14.4K 1+Gig Files, DOORs,  WME/Yankee Nets

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From: DAVID SHORT                            Number: 11569
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 02/05/94  6:10a
Subj: Top Drawer                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     How much COD and how fast will it be available assuming I'll be getting it
from you.

Med Tech BBS  (804) 973-5639 14.4K 1+Gig Files, DOORs,  WME/Yankee Nets

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From: DAVID SHORT                            Number: 11570
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 02/05/94  6:10a
Subj: Pioneers                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     What are the drive stats for the DRM 602 that make it so much more
valuable (read costly) than the 600?

Med Tech BBS  (804) 973-5639 14.4K 1+Gig Files, DOORs,  WME/Yankee Nets

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From: DAVID SHORT                            Number: 11571
  To: HAROLD HAYES                             Date: 02/05/94  6:10a
Subj: good hunting                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     Hey Harold, if you find something along those lines give me a reply as I
am also hunting for some kandid shots as to much is pose in the adult line.

Med Tech BBS  (804) 973-5639 14.4K 1+Gig Files, DOORs,  WME/Yankee Nets

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From: JOSE VISBAL                            Number: 11572
  To: LOUIS DIGGS                              Date: 02/05/94  9:35a
Subj: CD-Rom Game Trade                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well if your mac can paly IBM games or can it....
Anyway the it palys on a 100 % IBM or compatible PC System...
Hopes that Helps.... 
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From: MICHAEL HADEN                          Number: 11573
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 02/05/94 10:04a
Subj: Storm Iii                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey Diana did you recieve the CD yet you should I sent it tues 2day priority it
only cost me 2.90 which isn't to bad I hope you enjoy it as I did.Thanks for
the trade I will leave you msg when I recieve yours....TTYL



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From: JEFF NEWMAN                            Number: 11574
  To: THOMAS MENG                              Date: 02/05/94  1:41p
Subj: Re: CD'S 4-Sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TM>   I have 2 adult CD'S for sale.
 TM>   Busty Babes 1  Vol 1
 TM>   Best offer...

 Tom, I will offer The 7th Guest with video, Mayo Clinic MPC, and $20.00

 ... Your ex just called....she's with the IRS now.

-Jeff NOPCCCC

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 11575
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/04/94  9:39p
Subj: Technical CDROM ShrWr                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the February 1994
editions of its diskette and CD-ROM libraries of PD and
Shareware software for: Spreadsheets, Access, C/C++, AutoCAD,
Clipper, FoxPro/dBASE, Netware, ObjectVision, OS/2, Paradox,
Science/Engineering, TrueType Fonts, TurboPascal, Visual
Basic, VBDOS/QB/PDS, various Windows tool sets, and the
145,000 record PC Products Database. Call voice:+1(301)
924-3594, Fax:+1(301)963-2708, or write: 4505 Buckhurst
Ct., Olney MD 20832-1830 for free brochure.


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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 11576
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94 10:44a
Subj: Comptons's Int Ency                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have (2) Comptons's Interactive Encyclopedia's for sale.  These are the
windows version 1.01VW.  My price is $35 + P&H.  reply back soon, I do not
think these will last very long!!!!!!!



Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 11577
  To: WILLIAM ENG                              Date: 02/04/94  6:38a
Subj: Re: WANTED: CD ROM PLAYER               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

30 Jan 94  10:01:37, All whispered to William Eng...
--------------------------------------------------------

WE> Looking to buy my first CD ROM player for my IBM pc. Can be internal or 
WE> external. Will look at used and slow players also. Can pay cash or 
WE> combination of cash and SIMM memory chips. Leave me e-mail here or call me 


How about $170.00 for a Brand New Sony CD-Rom Drive ???  Could do a trade, But
depends on what you have in SIMM's ??

  You call call me or leave me mail:

(317 342-2034

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From: BILL WOOD                              Number: 11578
  To: CHENEY CHEN                              Date: 01/30/94 10:39p
Subj: Re: MAIL                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Cheney Chen to All <=- 
 
 CC> HI! EVERYBODY, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW TO USE EMAIL AND INTERNET 
 CC> MAIL. CAN SOMEBODY TEACH ME HOW TO USE THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH 
 
Well you are using E-MAIL right now, and to use internet, you have 
to call a BBS that has internet access. Bill 
 
 
... Catch the Blue Wave! 
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From: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN                      Number: 11579
  To: TOM COTTON                               Date: 02/05/94  5:15p
Subj: Genealogy CD's Wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > friend had and it was great.  If you would like the
 > phone number for GRS
 > I will post it for you next week. TC in TXK.

I'm not Gary, but I would like to get the phone number.

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From: MALIBU                                 Number: 11580
  To: THE QUE                                  Date: 02/06/94  6:33p
Subj: New User Message                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hello Que!
You are validated!  Did you enjoy the files you downloaded from the CD ROM?  If
you would like to see anything added...please feel free to let me know.  In the
meantime...enjoy the LIBERATOR!

                      - MALIBU-

by the way, how do you like O O/S 2?  We are thinking about making the big
change from DOS to O/S 2.



... Only the rich have distant relatives.
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 11581
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/05/94 11:24a
Subj: CD-ROMs for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Canada's CD-ROM Source is...

              ----- CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA -----
              6 Armstrong Bay,   Regina, Sk.   S4N 4G7
                306-789-4654 Voice * 306-789-8690 Fax
              ------------- NEW RELEASES -------------

 All prices are in Canadian dollars and include all applicable taxes.

NIGHT OWL 11            $45  The latest in the popular shareware series.
                              ...add OS/2 Box for just $19
                              ...add Shareware Studio III for just $29

MORE NORTHERN DELIGHTS  $38  X-Rated Canadian beauties, Limited
                             Quantities

       Shipping is $2 for regular post or $3 for Express Post.
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From: BOB HAMILTON                           Number: 11582
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 02/05/94 10:51a
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I hope the Sysops will find Bodacious Beauties to be a disc
 > worthy of
 > putting on line and paying the fees.

I guess we will see.  Best of luck.
 
Bob
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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 11583
  To: JEFF NEWMAN                              Date: 02/07/94  8:10a
Subj: Re: cd's 4-sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Jeff - if your other deal doesn't work out, I'll offer $15 shipped for the mayo
cd.  Jerry


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 11584
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 02/07/94  7:34a
Subj: CDRoms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Too much data to look through and stay sane!

New CDRoms for sale:

 Aminet June 1993                $12.00  Almost 600 megs of Amiga stuff,
                                         Thousands of GNU apps, C code,
                                         sound files, games, etc...
 CICA Windows Aug. 1993          $12.00  640+ Megs of Windows stuff, utils
                                         games, drivers, icons, info, and
                                         tons of other stuff.
 Garbo May 1992                  $12.00  375+ Megs of MSDOS/MAC from the
                                         Garbo Archive at the University
                                         of Vassa, Finland.
 GIFs Galore 1st ed.             $15.00  610+ Megs of .gif files. Animals,
                                         people, fantasy, tv, movies, more.
                                         320x280 to 1024x768
 Giga Games Aug. 1993            $17.00  450+ Megs zipped, 1 GIG unzipped!
                                         Games for MSDOS/Windows. Graphics
                                         Arcade games!  Adventure games!
                                         1000+ D&D files!  Tons more.
 Hobbes OS/2  June 1993          $12.00  640+ Megs of OS/2, bunches of
                                         must have utils for OS/2 2.x,tons
                                         of other stuff for 1.x to 2.x.
 La Coleccion Agosto 1993        $15.00  Mas de 6.500 archivos shareware
                                         y de dominio publico clasificados
                                         en 55 secciones con descripciones
                                         en espanol.  Listo para utilizar
                                         en BBS. DOS/Windows/OS/2. 475 Megs.
 Libris Britanica Issue 2        $28.00  650 Megs of Shareware from
                                         England!  This import has tons
                                         of MSDOS stuff you probabley
                                         have not seen... (With 124 pg.
                                         listing of files and descriptions)
 Project Gutenberg  July 1993    $17.00  Tons of classic lit/history/info
                                         files from the Project Gutenburg
                                         archive, all low ASCII text,
                                         ISO-9660, readable on almost
                                         anything!
 ShareWare Heaven 1993           $20.00  400+ Megs of MSDOS/Win, good
                                         general CD, samples wide range
                                         of programs/utils.
 Simtel MSDOS May 1993           $12.00  630+ Megs MSDOS, over 9000
                                         programs, drivers, tech info,
                                         graphics & sound stuff.
 Source  March 1992              $17.00  600 Megs of C code for just
                                         about every application: from
                                         AI to usenet.
 Soundwave                       $23.00  450 Megs of unique sounds, pro
                                         recordings at 16 bits.  Sounds
                                         as good as audio CDs. 200 Megs
                                         of sound files at 8 bits.
 Space and Astronomy  Oct 93     $17.00  530 Megs. 1080 images from space.
                                         5000 informational text files.
                                         Many astronomy/space programs for
                                         both IBM and Mac.  BBS ready.
                                         Awesome!  I loved this one.

All disks BBS ready!
Postage and Insurance is $5.00 per order, 2nd day priority shipping, in USA.
I will ship COD.  Add $5.00 per order for COD charges.

Feel free to contact and/or send checks/money orders to:

Eric Bravick
USF 3008
4202 E. Fowler Ave.
Tampa, FL. 33620-3008

(813) 985-9619 (Voice)
(813) 985-9723 (BBS)
Netmail 1:377/53.0
Internet: bravick@luna.cas.usf.edu

Thanks,
Eric


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From: TONY WHITE                             Number: 11585
  To: DICK WALSH                               Date: 02/07/94  6:48p
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dick Walsh keyed in the following blurb to Tony White:

DW> Tony  I sent you a check for the CD's you offered   We
DW> talked twice on the phone about them    Did you ship them to
DW> me via UPS.   I am not worried as I know you have to have
DW> time to let the check clear.  But I would like to know when
DW> you do ship them.  <Dick>

Dick,

As yet, I have not received your check.  I have not yet shipped them.
I will notify you when I have received your check.  Thank you.

-TWhite

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11586
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 02/07/94 12:23a
Subj: NEW CD-ROM TITLES......                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS:>Do you carry titles compatible with Reel Magic mpeg board?

Chris,

Not yet, but I understand there will be more and more titles trickling
through in the coming months that will take advantage of the video
technology in that board.

Later,
.\\ike


 * SLMR 2.1a * ...Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball...

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11587
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94 12:23a
Subj: CREAM OF THE CROP 2: $25                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |  Title:  CREAM OF THE CROP 2  |  |     $25.00      |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

                             >>> IT'S HERE! <<<

     The CD that is being praised by sysops across the country for its
     ease of installation, and fresh new files, is now shipping!  Cream
     of the Crop 2 contains over 654mb of only the most current shareware
     files available, all but 200 of which are dated LATER than April
     1993!  If you're a sysop, you'll LOVE the automatic installation
     feature which is compatible with Maximus, Remote Access, Spitfire,
     PCBoard, and QuickBBS.  If you're a "shareware lover", you'll be
     very impressed with the mouse-driven graphic user interface, and
     the overall ease of use.  See why they're raving....buy one today!

     * 654mb total
     * Virus-scanned with the LATEST scanning software
     * FILES.BBS support
     * 5000+ total files
     * 14mb of programming source code
     * 0% internal duplicates
     * 20% dupes to Night Owl 10.1
     * Only 2.3% dupes to Night Owl 11
     * Only 14.6% dupes to CD Powerbox 2

-----| SPECIAL 3-CD PACKAGE:  Cream 2 + Night Owl 11 + Powerbox 2......$69
-----| THE  THREE  NEWEST  SHAREWARE  CD-ROMS  ON  THE  MARKET!!!!!!!!!!!!

       OTHER PAKS AVAILABLE:  Cream 2 + Pier 3.........................$45
                              Cream 2 + Powerbox 2.....................$47
                              Cream 2 + Software Vault Gold............$43
                              Cream 2 + Night Owl 10.1.................$45
                              Cream 2 + Night Owl 11...................$49

                 >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 ORDERS...............509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 FAX/INFO/ORDERS......509-457-2966..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 400+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4.50 to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * Tagline thievery . . . On the next Oprah!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11588
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94 12:23a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11: $29.90                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |     Title:  NIGHT OWL 11      |  |     $29.90      |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

                             >>> IT'S HERE! <<<

     What more can be said about this shareware CD?  Controversial?  Yes,
     but always among the very "upper echelon" in the shareware field,
     with some of the most recent files available, and full bulletin board
     compatiblity.  Get 'em while they're hot, and check out some of these
     great package deals too!

     * Night Owl 10.1 + 11...........(All '93 + No Dupes!)..........$49
     * Night Owl 9 + 10.1 + 11.......(All '93 + No Dupes!)..........$69
     * Night Owl 8 + 9 + 10.1 + 11.........(No Dupes!)..............$85
     * Night Owl 11 + Pier 3........................................$49
     * Night Owl 11 + Cream of the Crop 2...........................$49
     * Night Owl 11 + CD Powerbox 2.................................$49
     * Night Owl 11 + Pier 3 + CD Powerbox 2........................$69

                 >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 ORDERS...............509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 FAX/INFO/ORDERS......509-457-2966..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 400+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4.50 to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * The magic of Windoze: Turning a 486 into an XT.

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From: BERNIE JARZABEK                        Number: 11589
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/07/94  9:17a
Subj: CD CHANGER                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BF>  But WHY do you think you need a fast CD-ROM drive on your BBS?
 
  It isn't "Think"  it's more like want.  I have a slow one now and I'd like to
get a changer that I could use on all systems.
 

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 11590
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 02/07/94  5:39p
Subj: Re: Bbv2 For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I really don't need any shareware unless its 94? Got any other discs for trade!
                                        
                        Thanks,
                           Sam Figueroa


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From: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                      Number: 11591
  To: L RICHARD JOHNSON                        Date: 02/07/94 11:22a
Subj: adult cd's trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hi:
aS FAR AS i'M CONCERNEDTHERE AREno cHILD poRN OR ANYOTHER ILL LEGAL MATERIAL
IN THERSE OR ANYOTHER CD'S THAT i HAVE COME ACCROSS.

I have no use for this material, and am trying to tradeor dispose of any XXX
material. and pick up the inter-active games, along with the "R" rated hi res
gifs.

If you are looking for this (Porn) material, I suggest you look elseware.

           -=Frank=-

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From: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                      Number: 11592
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94 11:35a
Subj: trade\sell adult cd's                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


Have the following cd's availabe for trade or sale for any cd's you no longer
need. Adult or Regular. Call or leave Message.

Star Wars Chess: New Never Opened:   $27.00

Total Fantasy Disc 1: 4,106 Gifs,PentHouse,Stars.Text,Movies    $29.00

Moving Fantasies: All Movies Gl's Dl's Fli's    $34.00

XXX Extreme: 614 Megs, Gifs,Movies     $27.00

Storm I 700 Megs Gifs, Movies,tet    $27.00     sold

Storm II Gifs,Movies, 5,129 Files    $27.00

Visual Fantasies: 2,500 Gifs, 466 Megs.    $27.00

Physical Therapy: Gifs,Movies,Text.    $27.00

Volcano:   Gifs  375 Megs worth.   $32.00

Visual Fantasies II : 2,642 Gifs "R" - "X"   $27.00

Conirm befor sending. Each to pay own postage on the trades.

Frank P. Cirillo Jr.

302-674-4537  Anytime.

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From: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                      Number: 11593
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/07/94  2:39p
Subj: adult cd's sale/trade                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi:
Thanks for the offer, however have Giffy Gold, and am fimiluar with Storm III,
which I really didn't care for.
Thanks again for the reply and offer, will consider anything else you wish to
offer, Regular CD or Adult.

                               -=Frank=-

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From: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                      Number: 11594
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 02/07/94  2:42p
Subj: adult cd's trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


Hi;

Thanks for the offer, however I have Moving Fantasies. and don't need anymore
Sharewear cd's right now.
Thanks again for the offer, if you have any additional material, let me know.
Either Adult or Regular cd's.

                               -=Frank=-

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From: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                      Number: 11595
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94  9:09p
Subj: sdult cd's trade/sell                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


Have the following cd's for sale or trade for other aduly cd's or regular
cd's:

Star Wars Chess, New Unopened.   $27.00

Total Fantasy Disc 1  $29.00

Moving Fantasies.     $27.00

XXX Extreme     $27.00

Storm I.      $27.00    Sold

Storm II   $27.00

Visual Fantasies.   $27.00

Physical Therapy   $27.00

Volcano    $32.00

Visual Fantasies II.   $27.00

Leave Mesage or call first. Will consider any reasonabal trades.

Frank P. Cirillo Jr.

302-674-4537

                             -=Frank=-

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From: CHARLES BEYER                          Number: 11596
  To: DON OLDENBURG                            Date: 02/07/94  6:14p
Subj: CD for Sale or Trade!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Don,

* In a message to Anyone! <01-31-94 22:41> Don Oldenburg wrote:

DO> Make me an offer:

DO> PC-SIG 12th edition

How much do you want for pc-sig 12??

l8r

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From: CHARLES BEYER                          Number: 11597
  To: MARC CHIARELLO                           Date: 02/07/94  6:30p
Subj: Sound Card For $ale                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Marc,

* In a message to All <02-02-94 14:16> Marc Chiarello wrote:

MC> Soundblaster Pro 2
MC> Includes Manuals, and original and updated drivers for DOS &
MC> Windows 3.1
MC> $80 and I will pay shipping in the US

What are the specs on that card?

thanks
l8r

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From: CHARLES BEYER                          Number: 11598
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 02/07/94  6:33p
Subj: William Eng                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* In a message to William Eng <02-04-94 06:38> Kevin Plummer wrote:

KP> 30 Jan 94  10:01:37, All whispered to William Eng...
KP> --------------------------------------------------------

KP> WE> Looking to buy my first CD ROM player for my IBM pc. Can be internal
KP> or
KP> WE> external. Will look at used and slow players also. Can pay cash or
KP> WE> combination of cash and SIMM memory chips. Leave me e-mail here or

What kind of SIMM chips do you have?  I might be interested in buying them from
you.

thanks
l8r

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From: GREG MUNDA                             Number: 11599
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/05/94 12:37p
Subj: PENTHOUSE CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the reply...I have found a vendor (Digital Broadcast Video) at
915-673-1911 tha sells it of $81.00, so far the best price by far!
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From: CHARLES CAMPBELL                       Number: 11600
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  9:38a
Subj: Game                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Can someone tell were can I get a game called Lesisure Suit Larry on CD
?

        thanks

CC

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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 11601
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 02/07/94 11:18a
Subj: Storm ii                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I will give you $20 for Storm II

I will sell you Storm II for $25(S&H incl.).
 If interested let me know,


                         Diana


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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 11602
  To: MICHAEL HADEN                            Date: 02/07/94 11:20a
Subj: Storm iii                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hey Diana did you recieve the CD yet you should I sent it tues 2day
-> priority it only cost me 2.90 which isn't to bad I hope you enjoy it
-> as I did.Thanks for the trade I will leave you msg when I recieve
-> yours....TTYL

Yes,I received it but you forgot to send the booklet "Claw Marks" so I haven't
been able to play it<G>.Your CD should be there by the time you receive this
message.Let me know when you receive it as well as when you get the booklet
sent out.
 Thanks,

                               Diana


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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 11603
  To: JOHN VAN HARE                            Date: 02/07/94 11:21a
Subj: Storm ii                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

All I have left is Storm II and one guy *might* buy it,if he doesn't you can
have it for $25(S&H inc).
 Let me know,


                   Diana


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From: TONY WHITE                             Number: 11604
  To: RICK SHELTON                             Date: 02/07/94 10:14p
Subj: Busty Babes Vol.1 No.1                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Rick,

Would like to speak to you regarding this disc.  Please send your
voice phone number to me via netmail to 1:124/5117.  Thank you.

-TWhite

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From: RAY KOTARA                             Number: 11605
  To: STEVE PHILLIPS                           Date: 02/07/94  3:41p
Subj: CD ROM for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'd be willing to offer $90 plus shipping on that... Lemme know at
210-684-5095 or on here.  thanks.

Ray  
 

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From: DENNIS L. WRIGHT                       Number: 11606
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 02/06/94 10:49a
Subj: Penthouse Interactive                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Re: Penthouse Interactive

I will be carrying Penthouse Interactive, it will be selling for $81.00.
I also carry the Playboy Interactive Date Book for $38.95 **special purchase**
and the Interactive Adult Movie Almanac.  Just call my board at (915)673-8181
or call me voice at (915)673-1911.  I have the complete listing of products
my company carries in the door section.

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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 11607
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94  3:32p
Subj: Bodacious Beauties                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************** GRAPHICAL IMAGES OF FLORIDA, INC. ****************

                              Presents

************************ BODACIOUS BEAUTIES ***********************

            Available THIS WEEK from your distributor!!!

From Mr. Bob Jackson's review:

     Bottom Line -  This is a better CD than Southern Beauties, and
that's
     saying something! My recommendation, FWIW, is that this product is
     well worth adding to your personal collection.

     B_BEAUTS is an unqualified winner IMHO. If licensed collections are
     here to stay, and in-the-know sources say they are, then this CD is
     showing, and leading the way.

Mr. Jackson's complete review (including his constructive criticisms) is

available for download (713-589-2690 to 14.4) or FREQing (Node
ID:1:106/30)
from The Hard Disc Cafe BBS in Houston, TX. A guest login ID of CD
REVIEW
or CD_REVIEW will get you download privileges for the ZIPped file:
"B_BEAUTS.ZIP" (all three parts).



            A FULLY COMMERCIAL -- FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC

             More Than 85 Well Known BODACIOUS BEAUTIES
               Over 2,000 Hi-Res GIFs at 1024x768x256
             Over 650 Megabytes (including thumbnails)
                      From Original 35mm Slides
                          New GUI Interface
                      Installs Quickly & Easily
                       Extremely User Friendly
                      Mouse Support & Popup Help
                     Multiple Directory Slide Show

                               RATED - X

*********************** FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!! ********************
********* FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS *********

                     $25.00 for the first node
             $15.00 each additional node (up to five)
             $12.00 each additional node (up to ten)
             $10.00 each additional node thereafter


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From: MIKE FURST                             Number: 11608
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/07/94  8:19p
Subj: Non dos cd's for dos mach               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MS-> CS@9:>to put some MAC and AMIGA files online for my BBS users.

MS-> CS@9:>Can anyone suggest a couple of titles that I can shovel into my DOS
  -> clone
  -> CS@9:>server and let the users drain files off of?

MS-> We sell the Otherware CD-ROM's, which have approx. 300mb of Mac, and 300mb
  -> of Amiga shareware.  Will work on a DOS-based BBS if you can put up with
  -> the somewhat abbreviated FILES.BBS listings.  Price is $22 if you're
  -> interested.

MS-> Later,
  -> .\\ike

MS->  STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-289
  ->  FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.0


MS->  * SLMR 2.1a * Picard and Riker in '96!

MS-> --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 11609
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 02/07/94  1:35p
Subj: Re: Bbv2 For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What are we trading for?  I don't remember anything.  What discs are 
you interested in?  I have alot of em.
 
thanks
Scott

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 11610
  To: DAVID SHORT                              Date: 02/06/94  8:43a
Subj: Top Drawer                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DS>     How much COD and how fast will it be available assuming I'll be 
  >getting it from you. 
 
It will be $25 delivered COD 2 Day Priority Mail.  The 2 Day part can't 
be guaranteed, but it normally does get there in 2 business days.  We 
have them in hand now, so give us a call if you would like one.  Thanks! 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Orders, File Lists, Catalogs 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 11611
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  3:17p
Subj: Top Drawer Released!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 11612
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  3:25p
Subj: Top Drawer Shareware                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Top Drawer has been released $19.00.  I have been working with the file 
lists, accumulating stats.  I am very pleased with the file lists.  The 
producers didn't hold back here!  Every file has a very complete 
description, and there is a file_id.diz in every archive. 
 
The following is a list of each file area and its contents: 
 
1-Applications                        has    63 files in  15997193 bytes 
2-Banner/Label Programs & Forms       has    25 files in   3515446 bytes 
3-Business Accounting & Finance       has   104 files in  25399144 bytes 
4-Benchmarks/Virus/Diagnostics Aids   has    63 files in   7320366 bytes 
5-Batch/Boot/Event Utilities          has    26 files in   1595654 bytes 
6-C.A.D. & C.A.M.                     has   103 files in  18077003 bytes 
7-Communications Programs             has    80 files in  12351707 bytes 
8-Comm Protocols & Modem Setups       has    44 files in   3941638 bytes 
9-Compression Programs                has    55 files in   6072341 bytes 
10-DataBase Programs                  has    69 files in  17295731 bytes 
11-Desktop/Desktop Pub/Spreadsheets   has    17 files in   3221633 bytes 
12-DOS Utilities                      has   179 files in  14074060 bytes 
13-GAMES and Educational Programs     has   365 files in  76315800 bytes 
14-Graphic Programs & Utilities       has    80 files in   9481809 bytes 
15-Graphics/Animations/Raytraced      has    26 files in   5368421 bytes 
16-Ham Radio/Shortwave Listening      has    93 files in  15695128 bytes 
17-Handicapped Aids & Utilities       has    12 files in   1409230 bytes 
18-Home & Personal Computing & Humor  has   108 files in  17143570 bytes 
19-Home Recipes / Health / Medicine   has    30 files in   4198633 bytes 
20-LANs/Multitask/Nets/AltOperatingSy has    77 files in  14132417 bytes 
21-Menu Programs & Shells             has    37 files in   5179932 bytes 
22-OffLine Mail Readers               has    51 files in   8905739 bytes 
23-OS/2(tm) Files / Programs          has   233 files in  34110248 bytes 
24-Patches & UnProtects               has    74 files in   9560616 bytes 
25-Printer Helps / Drivers /Utilities has    61 files in   7648704 bytes 
26-Speaker & SB & AdLib & Midi Utils  has    12 files in   2211023 bytes 
27-Religion & Genealogy Programs      has   101 files in  12080974 bytes 
28-WordProcessing & Text Editors      has    67 files in   7900261 bytes 
29-Win Communications                 has    26 files in   5191920 bytes 
30-Win Desktop / Editors / Fonts      has    87 files in  12752918 bytes 
31-Win Drivers                        has    14 files in   3920702 bytes 
32-Win Games / Sound Utilities        has    72 files in  10276459 bytes 
33-Win Home & Personal                has    79 files in  16611588 bytes 
34-Win Icons BMP's & Screen Apps      has    21 files in   5012270 bytes 
35-Windows NT(tm)                     has    18 files in   2080386 bytes 
36-Win Utilities and Help files       has   184 files in  26012861 bytes 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 11613
  To: JAMES BRADLEY                            Date: 02/05/94  7:57a
Subj: Top Drawer Stats                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JB>-=> 28 Jan 94  16:53:00, Jim Lambert said 
  >-=> Top Drawer Stats      2/2 to All... 
 
JB>You gave us all the details but the $$. 
 
Top Drawer has now been released for only $19.  It's the best deal I 
know of on a shareware disc.  Give us a call if you would like to order 
one.  Top Drawer's predecessor, Big Sky Rom, is also available for $26, 
and if you buy both, I pay shipping. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Orders, File Lists, Catalogs 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 11614
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 02/05/94  8:10a
Subj: Top Drawer                              Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

JL> Title              1990    1991    1992    1993    Files   Megs 
JL> Top Drawer #1       0.0     0.1     0.5    96.5    4146    592 '94+ 
 
AG>On 3 Feb 94, Daniel Martin (co-publisher of Top Drawer) wrote: 
 
AG>Totals:  76,888,575 bytes 
 
AG>Who's right? <g> 
 
When Dan wrote something about 76 megs, it wasn't the total on the disc. 
It may have been the total of the 1994 files.  There is well over 600 
megs on the disc when you count the 1994 files.  The analysis program 
that I used hasn't been updated for 1994 yet. <G> 
 
                                                        Jim... 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 11615
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/05/94  9:32a
Subj: Misc CD-Rom Titles                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                        Computer Works CD-Rom Sales 
       Sale!               Miscellaneous Titles                 Sale! 
                            Limited Quantities 
 
The Animals - MPC           $20    King's Quest VI              $45 
Battle Chess Enhanced       $30    Mantis Experimental Fighter  $20 
ChessMaster 3000 - MPC      $22    Precision Mapping            $69 
Desktop Publisher's Dream   $32    Sherlock Holmes Cons Det I   $20 
Electronic Home Library     $28    Space Shuttle                $20 
Fantazia Fonts & Sounds     $24    Star Wars Chess - New!       $22 
Great Poetry Classics       $40    U.S. & World Atlas Pack      $20 
Grolier MPC Encyclopedia 1  $40 
 
Computer Works         (205) 793-4481 Voice           Online Orders 
 CD-Rom Sales           (205) 671-0092 BBS           Visa & Mastercard 
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From: MIKE BARROW                            Number: 11616
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  5:00p
Subj: Os/2 , windows shareware                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>I have a copy of 1993 OS/2 Box [DAMAR] that I would like to trade for
MB>equal value and quality 1993 Windows shareware CD.
MB>
MB>Mail back or call [904]828-1884 days, 641-5059 eves and weekends.
MB>
MB>                     .\\ike
MB>
MB>---
MB>* CmpQwk #UNREG* UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY

Sent 02/06/94, 16:31 from .\\ike

"Jacksonville, home of the undefeated JAGUARS"
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 11617
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94  1:45a
Subj: HOT NEW PRODUCTS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

$$$$$$$$$$$$ H O T  N E W  CD'S  AND  H O T  N E W  P R I C E S $$$$$$$$$$$$

DeskTop Bookshop $18.  Software Vault Platinum - $17. Tech Arsenal    - $18.
Night Owl 11.0 - $26.  Shareware Trio - 3 cd's - $16. Window Archiver - $13.
OS/2 Comp      - $13.  So-Much-Modem Madness   - $22. Word Perfect    - $13.
PC-Sig 13      - $22.  Pier 3                  - $19. Ham & Scanners  - $13.
Ecstacy (while supply last) - $25.    Nova I or II (adult) bbs ready  - $21.
Women On Wheels             - $28.    Kodak Photo CD w/Proccessor     - $35.

     ORDERS ONLY 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Now 100% QWK Compatible! More bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 11618
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94  1:45a
Subj: PIONEER 602X                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

))))))))))))))))))))) A L L  N E W  P I O N E E R  6 0 2 X (((((((((((((((((((
                        Double Speed  -  6 - Disk Changer

  300 ms Average Access Time  -  307 Kbs Data Transfer Rate - 256 KB Buffer
  Multi-Session Support       -  2048/512 Byte Selectable   - SCSI-2
  Complete with Manuals, Audio Cable, Power Cord, Magazine and Software.

   IN STOCK                   PRICE - $845.00                IN STOCK
        MULTIPUL UNIT PURCHASE DISCOUNT - SAME PRICE CASH OR CHARGE
     ORDERS ONLY 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 11619
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94  1:45a
Subj: SPECIAL BUNDLE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} S U P E R  S P E C I A L  B U N D L E {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{

 Panasonic 562 Int (Double Speed 320ms/300KB Transfer Rate).\
 Sound Blaster Pro Deluxe .................................. }  $279.00
 6 CD's Titles............................................../ Plus Shipping

 Sound Blaster Pro Deluxe + 4 CD Titles .....................}  $119.00
                            LIMITED OFFER                     Plus Shipping

   ORDERS ONLY 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: KAMAL HAFFAR                           Number: 11620
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 02/06/94  8:09a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Hi, Kamal:  Our 800# is: 1-800-265-7081, Call for your
 > Free Electronic
 > Catalogue with over 1100 titles.  BTW, we are located
 > just north of
 > Toronto, yes, a Canadian CD-ROM distributor!

 > Call (905) 830-1615 for information.

Hello Hayden, thanks for the info, I will be calling you asap.  Its nice to kno
there are Canadian distributors monitoring this section. In fact, just
yesterday a sysop in our network mentioned to me your company's name an told me
that your company have been great in helping out to find a BBS ready
educational CD for him.

Thanks,

Kamal

 > Hayden Bradshaw
 > HRB Computer Services
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 >  * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario  (1:229/15)

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From: LOU MATRAZZO                           Number: 11621
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 02/06/94 11:02p
Subj: Re: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - NEW            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

So what if you don't want to put it on a BBS. How much then?

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From: JEFF NEWMAN                            Number: 11622
  To: THOMAS MENG                              Date: 02/07/94  2:08a
Subj: Re: CD'S 4-Sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TM>   I have 2 adult CD'S for sale.
 TM>   Busty Babes 1  Vol 1
 TM>   Best offer...
 TM>   Busty Babes II
 TM>   $20.00
 TM>                    Tom

 Tom, I will offer $95.oo + shipping COD for both of the disks.
 I will have money Friday.

 ... I need a drink...where's the space bar?

-Jeff NOPCCCC

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From: ERIC LYTLE                             Number: 11623
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 02/09/94 12:00a
Subj: Free CD Catalog                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Joe, please send your catalog to 

Eric Lytle
522 L Street
Chula Vista, CA 91911-1114

Thanks.

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From: ERIC LYTLE                             Number: 11624
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/09/94 12:00a
Subj: Send me catalogs!!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To all CD catalog senders :

Please send your catalogs to :

Eric Lytle
522 L Street 
Chula Vista, CA 91911-1114

Thanks a million!


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 11625
  To: DAVID SHORT                              Date: 02/07/94  8:56p
Subj: DRM 600                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DS>      Considering this unit sells new for around 500 
 DS> exactly what do you expect to get out of it.  I'm 
 DS> interested but not rich.  As long as it's in top 
 DS> shape with all hardware /software I'll offer $400.
 
$700 was a good price for the 600A.  $500 is a good price for a used one.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 11626
  To: MICKEY LIGHTSEY                          Date: 02/07/94  9:03p
Subj: Pioner 18 disk changer                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 ML> Hi, I was wondering if anyone in this echo is running the Pioneer 18
 ML> disk changer? I'm seriously thinking about this, but due to the amount
 ML> of $ it costs I was looking for any available feedback. If I do get it
 ML> I'll be looking for some good adult disks, I have 5 good shareware
 ML> disks. Any info is appreciated.
 
It won't be available until towards the end of this month.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 11627
  To: PAUL DIESTELHORST                        Date: 02/07/94  9:06p
Subj: Pioneer DRM-640X                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PD> Can any of you dealers give me a good price on a 
 PD> Pioneer DRM-640x with interface kit. Would like to 
 PD> purchase one real soon.

Pioneer 602X (Bare)..300ms/307KB transfer..859.00...Cash Price..839.00
Pioneer 602x w/8 bit kit...................939.00...Cash Price..919.00
Pioneer 604X (Bare)..300ms/614kb transfer.1069.00...Cash Price.1039.00
Pioneer 604X w/8 bit Kit..................1149.00...Cash Price.1119.00
Pioneer 1804X (Bare) 300ms/614kb transfer.1995.00...Cash Price.1885.00
                     (available late 2/94)
 
NOTE:  PCJ buys their Pioneer units directly from the largest Pioneer
distributor in the US.  I have heard that other dealers have claimed
they have already sold hundreds of the 1804X units already and at the
present, they are just out of stock, just so they can get your order.
This is just not so.  Pioneer has guaranteed our distributor will be
the first to have the new 1804X units when they first become available
later on this month.  So, if you have ordered an 1804X from one of our
competitor's and haven't received it, you now know why.
 
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PRODUCT ORDERS ONLY*NO Questions/No
* PCJ Computing-Selling 700 titles* Catalogs/No Order Stats-800-547-7817
* We try to meet all competition. * Visa/MC/Amx/Disc/Dinrs/Cart/Chek/COD
* No surcharges. Full catalog with* For QUESTIONS/CATALOGS/ORDER STATUS
* descriptions on BBS-PCJCDS.ZIP. *  (No Exceptions) (9-7) 615-339-0235
* No CODs on drives.  Most titles *   BBS HST/14400  615-4782890/4791047
* in stock. Shipping not included *   Compuserve          - 71754,3514
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *  Internet-Doug.Carpenter@Junction.Cld9.Com

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 11628
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94  9:08p
Subj: Best New $19 SHAREWARE CDROM            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

           That's right a great SHAREWARE ROM
                   for ONLY $19.00
 
Big Sky Rom's newest release, TopDrawer, is now shipping.
For you who have pre-ordered, your's is on the way. Yeah,
I know.  What kind of ROM could I be getting for 19 bucks?
 
                       ANSWER
 
        Possibly the best ROM you have to date!
 
This ROM is published by SysOps for the SysOp.  Tired of
compiling list and heaven knows what else to get a ROM
on-line?
 
This is the answer you have been waiting for, affordable
files at this introductory price, to show what TopDrawer
is and can do.
 
Files.bbs in every DIR, so simple it can be run on a test
drive of QMODEM (tm). Plus SPITFIRE (tm) files SFFILES.BBS.
And you 4DOS (tm) users will find descript.ion files.
If you're a PC-BOARD(tm) SysOp, you'll find a comprehensive
SETMEUP.exe that will install the ROM for you! (...You do
have to have it in the CD-ROM player!) grin........
All archives are compressed using pkzip (PKWARE (tm) 204G
using maximum compression.
All archives and their members have been scanned with the
latest virus scanners.
 
All files have file_id.diz's in them, GOOD ONE's, at that;
we added over 1,859 full descriptions when none were available
or the author thought that high ASCII looked better.
 
And on TOP of all that, we have made a great effort to remove
commercial files and other copyright infringements.
Now, what this means is that we set this ROM up for the BBS,
not the end user!!!!
 
We have, because of current legal cases and judgments within the
publishing community, removed VOC, WAVE, and MIDI sound files. The
real programs are still there; we just deleted the lawyer syndrome.
All of the GIF's are our own, no copyright infringements to worry
about. You are licensed as the ROM owner to distribute them to your
users.
 
There is also a feature authors DIR.  That's the authors we felt
exhibited professional demeanor in program ability and distribution
ease.  Plus, we have the text files that are the latest rage -- that
is, we have STEVE ROBERTS stuff, NOT Megabytes of FAQ's or other
drivel. We have taken great pains to think of the user and the SysOp.
You will find your users cruising through this easy file system and
praising you for the setup (that is, if you have great users like we
do).
 
Both the SuperMart BBS and PC-MONTANA BBS have handicapped users,
and thought went into the files and their placement to enhance the
interface for these special individuals.
 
Ok, now to the brass tacks:  Files -- there are 4,174;that's 609 MB +
compressed.  Dirs -- no, not 50 or 60, just 45 ; and this ROM will
interface with our first release, BIG SKY 01, so you don't have to do
a major setup all over again!
 
You've probably heard other SysOps saying that they're removing such &
such ROM offline because of one problem or another. We listen to these
SysOps; you are our bread and butter (low cost spread in this ROM's price).
 
Now, where can I get this ROM?  Well, read below and you can order
this baby on-line or by fax (24 hours) or by voice (9-9 EST Mon-Sat).
 
*** PCJ COMPUTING ***   Data  -  1-615-478-2890   We stock 700+ titles
  All major credit      Fax   -  1-615-479-1047   Lowest prices around
  cards accepted        Voice -  1-615-339-0235   Download BIGSKY2.ZIP
  with no surcharge     Orders-  1-800-547-7817   for the files list.
  (No CODs)           Internet-  Douglas.Carpenter@Junction.Cld9.Com
                      Listserv-  Send request to Listserv@Cld9.Com
                                 Send SUB CDROM-L NAME
                     Compuserve-  71754.3514@Compuserve.Com
 
                      **  DEALER INQUIRIES WELCOME **
 
File stats for the BEST NEW SHAREWARE CD-TOP DRAWER for 1990 to 1994:
 
    File   %    Apx  'K'   %            File   %    Apx 'K'    %
    ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== =====
90     0  0.0%         0  0.0%    91       1  0.0%       100  0.0%
92     6  0.1%     2,380  0.4%    93   3,968 95.1%   558,536 91.6%
94   144  4.8%    48,607  8.0%          ==== =====  ======== =====
----  Total Files:  4,174   Total Approx 'K' Bytes:  609,523  ----
 
Duplicate Files Comparison - Top Drawer versus other popular CDs:
 
Big Sky 1 - 0%                  So Much Shareware # 3 - 2.4%
Cream of the Crop # 2 - 11.7%   Software Vault Gold (# 3) - 10.3%
Nightowl 10 - 12.4%             Call PCJ at 615-339-0235 if you
Nightowl 11 - 6.4%              need a file comparison with any
Pier 3 - 15.3%                  of the other popular CDROMs.

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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 11629
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 02/07/94  8:40p
Subj: Review of Bodacious Beauties            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BJ>      B_BEAUTS is an unqualified winner IMHO. If licensed collections
 BJ>      are here to stay, and in-the-know sources say they are, then
 BJ>      this CD is showing, and leading the way.

 Once again Bob you have done an outstanding report of the merits and
 perils of this CD.  You know I look forward to your reports ALMOST as
 much as the new CD's.  The statements you make in the last paragraph is
 the only part I would take exception with you about and it is for that
 very reason, I DO NOT INTEND TO PURCHASE this CD.

 Also, have you noticed that there is NO advertising by any of the
 retailers (as of yet) on the network for this CD.  I believe I have
 made my point.  Again thanks Bob and keep it up (more than a singular
 meaning?) maybe.

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From: JOHN COOK                              Number: 11630
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 02/07/94 11:33a
Subj: Re: Misc Discs for Trade\Sale           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll mail Physical Therapy and Seedy ROM 7TH Heaven this afternoon,
and will include a generic FILES.BBS for Physical Therapy. Exchanging
for your BB I and DIGITAL DREAMS 1. I have DD 2, so need 1. If yours
is DD 2, just return mine. Thanks.
Does the Pony Express still deliver to Southern Muriland? I lived in
Mechanicsville and Charlotte Hall for a long time. Great place!
Ship yours to:
JH COOK
PO BOX 4801
Greensboro, NC
27404

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From: JOHN COOK                              Number: 11631
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 02/07/94 11:33a
Subj: Re: Misc Discs for Trade\Sale           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Another FIDO member's message arrived sooner. He offered a trade for
most of the discs I offered. Thanks for the reply.


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From: JOHN COOK                              Number: 11632
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94 11:33a
Subj: CD-ROM Discs Trade\Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Offering:

Adult Reference Library   $25 shipped or trade for BB II

Sherlock Holmes (not John) Consulting Detective I $20 shipped
or trade for any OS\2 CD such as Hobbes (recent one)

(910)299-1848 voice
(910)299-0954 BBS. Leave note for SYSOP
Or reply here.


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From: THOMAS BAIRD                           Number: 11633
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/07/94  8:13p
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

=>  Currently a tossup between the Walnut Creek "Hobbes" disc
=> (just updated
=> November 1993) and OS/2 Box.

Naw, not titles.. the CD-Rom itself!

                                       -THoMAS BaiRD

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From: DAN PROCIV                             Number: 11634
  To: HAROLD HAYES                             Date: 02/06/94 11:07p
Subj: Adult CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  I am searching for an adult CD....(If it exists yet)
-> Amateur models (Not the CD by that name, I have it)
-> Girl next door kinda stuff.
-> Shots probably taken by husband/boyfriend/friend/self.
-> Pics to compare....AA_?????, Gabbys BBS AdBoard pics, ETC...
-> I have most of these pics......I want new stuff.....
-> NO KIDDIE STUFF !!!
-> ]
-> Thanx, H
I HAVE AMATEUR MODELS IN STOCK. THIS IS AN EXCELLENT CD WITH OVER 500 FULL
COLOR SVGA IMAGES OF BEAUTIFUL WOMEN. 650 MEGS OF CENTERFOLD STYLE LAYOUTS
PHOTOGRAPHED BY PROFESSIONALS FROM AROUND THE WORLD! ALL IMAGES ARE PRESENTED
IN TWO FORMATS: 1024X768X256 COLOR GIFS AND TRUE COLOR 24-BIT 16.7 COLOR TIFFS.

YOU MAY PLACING AN ORDER BY CALLING THE CD-MACHINE AT (503)236-4969 VOICE /
FAX OR BY ORDERING ON-LINE FROM OUR SUPPORT BBS AT (503)236-3266 OR (503)236-
0269. YOU CAN ALSO ORDER BY MAIL IF PREFERRED AT:

                THE CD-MACHINE
                P.O. BOX 13304
                PORTLAND, OR
                97213-0304

INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME, WORLD WIDE SHIPPING.
"FIND OUT WHY EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE CD-MACHINE!"
-> --- WM v2.04/92-0340
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From: DAN PROCIV                             Number: 11635
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94 11:32p
Subj: !FREE ADULT CD CATALOG!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For the Largest Adult CDrom Catalog Available just send us your mailing info.

We are The CD-Machine and stock all adult titles on CDROM! If you are looking
for an Adult title, or just need some information call us at:
         (503)236-3266 Voice / Fax 24hrs 7 days.
         On-line catalog  / ordering available on our Support
         BBS at (503)236-3266 or (503)236-0269.

 We accept Visa / MasterCard / Money Orders / Checks  / Good old American Cash.
 Our catalog in downloadable from The Machine BBS by requesting "CDS4SALE.ZIP"
 It can be Freq'ed on Fidonet by requesting "cdmachine" on 1:104/41.

"FIND OUT WHY EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE CD-MACHINE!"


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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 11636
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/07/94 12:41p
Subj: ***bbs shareware cd's wan               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF> If you're going to come down for the AGI Computer Show in
BF>Indianapolis on Febuary 12, drop by my table - I do trades for
BF>good-condition used CDs, and carry several of the BBS ready CD-ROMs.

Hmmm ... that might make it difficult for you to be at Mansfield, OH hamfest
the next day.  I was hoping to see you there, and to buy some jewel cases from
you.  In case you are able to make it, I'll bring along some used discs you
might be interested in.  If you show up, look for me at the ARRL table in the
main building.  If I'm not there at the moment, leave a note.

For others interested, and in the area, the hamfest will be at the fairgrounds,
doors open at 0700.  There are usually a LOT of computer and CD-ROM dealers
there, taking over most of four buildings.

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

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From: SCOTT CARTIER                          Number: 11637
  To: NATHAN MOSCHKIN                          Date: 02/08/94  8:22a
Subj: CD MUSIC FILES (.MOD)                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        I found one dealer in the back of the Computer Shopper that
advertised the Ultimate Mod Collection in its ad, but when I called they
said they were sold out and were not sure if they would reorder.

They are instead gonna stock a new title called Mod Blaster. A
description has not been given yet as it just came out.

Do you or anyone out there know where I could possibly order The
ultimate mod collection?
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From: LEW MURRAY                             Number: 11638
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/08/94  4:17p
Subj: Mitsumi Upgrade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone wishing to trade in their single spin, out of warranty, Mitsumi
LU005 + cash for a brand new, one year warrranty double spin Mistumi
FX001 drive, contact Lew at 504-888-8366 or leave me a message on this
echo with your phone number.

___
 X OLX 2.1 TD X I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it?

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From: LEW MURRAY                             Number: 11639
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 02/08/94  4:21p
Subj: Night Owl version 11 !!!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


DR> RH> Contrary to claims made by those who have an axe to grind,
DR> RH> or have their own reasons for trying to raise questions about v11, ther
DR> RH> are NO problems with this outstanding new disk from the Shareware leade

DR>What about Buggs Bunny?  I have a friend at Disney who was
DR>not amused.  Seems Night Owls has a BAD habit of including
DR>files on their discs that are going to get SYSOPS sued.
DR>Commercial software, viruses, copyrighted pictures...
DR>WHAT's NEXT???

Dave;

Why should anyone at Disney care about a Bugs Bunny picture?  Bugs is a
Looney Toons & Merry Melodies character.  Not Disney.

Lew
___
 X OLX 2.1 TD X Proofread carefully to see if you any words out.

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From: ROBERT COWLING                         Number: 11640
  To: DON OLDENBURG                            Date: 02/07/94 10:28p
Subj: Re: CD for Sale or Trade!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

How much for the 'Forbiden Subjects'??

isnt it like 'The Hackers Chronicles' ??

let me know..

RAC

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From: ROBERT COWLING                         Number: 11641
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94 10:38p
Subj: multi-rom changers                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for a good deal on a Pioneer 602x rom changer 300ms unit,

unless I get a real good deal on the 604x or 1804x, if you have or
know of a good price let me know price and location!

Thanks
RAC

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From: LAWRENCE MINTZ                         Number: 11642
  To: LEE NICHOLS                              Date: 02/07/94  6:29p
Subj: Pirate Cds                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > {snip}
 >> Sorry for my short course in capitalism, but your
 >> tirade about high prices in computer software really
 >> ticked me off.
 > I appreciate your feelings in this matter but how does
 > this explain Mr. Bill Gates being one of the ten
 > richest men in the world?

I did not include management in my tirade.  First off, Bill Gates was and still
is a better businessman than programmer. Management creates an additional
category known as overhead, and then rewards itself by raiding the overhead
fund.

Larry

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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 11643
  To: SAM GOH                                  Date: 02/08/94  7:06a
Subj: CD's for trade sale....                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sam - what year is the compton's?  Jerry

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From: RON HANKS                              Number: 11644
  To: STEVE PHILLIPS                           Date: 02/08/94 10:40a
Subj: Re: CD ROM for sale                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to All <02-07-94 07:51> Steve Phillips wrote:

> MSGID: 1:379/1 2FB0B788
> Mitsumi CRMC-LU002S Single Speed Internal CD ROM
> 150 kb/sec sustained data transfer rate
>
> includes interface card, cables and user manual.
>
> with the following CD's:
>
>    STW Multimedia Encyclopedia ver 1.5 (Grolier)
>    US Atlas ver 1.5 (includes AutoMap)
>    The Time Table of History (Science & Innovation)
>
> Drive has been used very little, in excellent condition.
>
Steve, this is to confirm our deal as per telephone conversation on 2-7-94.

           Ship COD: Marvin R. Hanks
                     1306 Autumnleaf Court
                     Columbus, GA 31904

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11645
  To: THOMAS BAIRD                             Date: 02/08/94  1:32a
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF:>>What's the most highly recommend CD-Rom out there that supports OS/2?

BF:> Currently a tossup between the Walnut Creek "Hobbes" disc (just updated
BF:>November 1993) and OS/2 Box.

Both excellent, but we've sold OS/2Box's about 5:1 over Hobbes if that's
any indication.  Hobbes is in stock at $14.30, and OS/2Box at $20 if you're
interested.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50


 * SLMR 2.1a * I've told you a million times not to exaggerate.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11646
  To: MIKE TETREAULT                           Date: 02/08/94  1:32a
Subj: NEW LOWER CD PRICE$ PT 1                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MT:> MS> Animals MM San Diego Zoo......15.70
MT:> MS> Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....20.40

MT:>      What's the difference between these two?

The "MM" version is the DOS multimedia version, while the "MPC" is the
Windows multimedia version.  That's it in a nutshell.  Both are in stock
at the present time if you're interested in either.  8)

Take care,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50


 * SLMR 2.1a * Dammit Jim!  I'm a doctor, not a tagline!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11647
  To: RICKY PURCELL                            Date: 02/08/94  1:32a
Subj: GAMES                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RP:>Looking for and wanting to buy:

Ricky,

We have them all in stock except Sherlock III.  Pricing........

RP:>    Rebel Assault.............48.70
RP:>    Day of the Tentacle.......42.00
RP:>    Sherlock Vol II...........48.50

RP:>If have any other CD-ROM/MPC type game let me know, might be interested?

We currently stock over 400 various titles, so give me a ring sometime and
we can discuss them!

Bye,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50


 * SLMR 2.1a * Odo, is there any more jello in the fridge?  Odo?  Odo??

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11648
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 02/08/94  1:32a
Subj: Review of Bodacious Beaut               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey Bob, where ya been?  Haven't seen you in a while.  BTW, I just special
ordered an Adult Movie Almanac CD for one of my customers, and it came in
this time!  I can probably get one for you if you still want one.  Lemme
know, OK?

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50


 * SLMR 2.1a * Odo, is there any more jello in the fridge?  Odo?  Odo??

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11649
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/08/94  1:32a
Subj: TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #2:  TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES   |
         |________________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

>MONSTER MEDIA VOL 3 * 650mb of files from Sep-Dec 93, w/ book. BBS..$27.90
 CD POWERBOX 2 * The newest of the new! Current shareware hits. BBS..$25.60
 NIGHT OWL 11 * Yes, it's here.  BBS-ready...........................$29.90
 CREAM OF THE CROP 2 * All '93 files with automatic BBS installation.$25.00
 PC-SIG 13 * Finally!  A must-have for you SIG fans. Disks 1-4203....$24.90

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 ORDERS...............509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 FAX/INFO/ORDERS......509-457-2966..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 400+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4.50 to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * I'm leaving my body to science fiction...

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11650
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/08/94  1:32a
Subj: CD-ROM SALE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #4:  CD-ROM LIQUIDATION!   |
         |________________________________________________________|

            All sales are final - Sale limited to stock on hand!

Phoenix Games.......$12   Shareware Studio 2..$14   Grolier's MPC Ency..$29
World Vision 3-Pak..$37   Business Phonebk 91.$13   Bookshelf 1992......$32
Mac Shareware.......$15   Precision Mapping...$65   Mac M/M Space.......$25
CD Winbox...........$12   DTPro...............$23   Career Opportunities$14
PC-SIG 11...........$10   Phoenix 4.0.........$17   Wildcat Gold........$14
Funny...............$29   Int'l Graphics Libr.$25   Reel Clips..........$24
Library of Future...$25   Home Designer.......$27   Arizona Images......$17
Cinemania 1993......$49   Multimedia Magic....$14   CD Powerbox.........$10
King's Quest V......$17   Hobbes OS/2 1992....$10   Sights & Sounds.....$20
K-Tracks Sound F/X..$17   Sounds for Windows..$15   Conan the Cimmerian.$19

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 ORDERS...............509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 FAX/INFO/ORDERS......509-457-2966..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 400+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4.50 to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * Hello, I am Mike and I am a baudaholic.

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 11651
  To: GREG MUNDA                               Date: 02/07/94 11:17p
Subj: Re: price                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> The best price found so far is $81.00, what is yours???
Hi Greg,
We are the distributor of the mentioned CD and we always have them in stock.
 
GroupWare 

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 11652
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/07/94 11:18p
Subj: Re: $125 SCSI CD-ROM PLAYER             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>Toshiba 3101 Internal SCSI drives $125
> Specs?
Hi,
Call Stephanie at 1-20-6472-1634 and ask her to fax the spec sheet. TTYL 

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From: TOM GUELKER                            Number: 11653
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  8:01a
Subj: Broken Mitsumi CD readers               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

This message was from TOM GUELKER to ALL
originally in conference ToadnetBuy on JAFO (JAFO! BBS)
and was forwarded to you by TOM GUELKER
                    ----------------------------------------

I want your old broken Mitsumi CD readers! Model LU002S or 005S
Prefer non-working since I'm cheap and a little dangerous with a
soldering iron..
Reply with model #, asking price and voice phone number.
Regards,
Tom Guelker
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From: BOB HAMILTON                           Number: 11654
  To: DAVID SHORT                              Date: 02/07/94  7:35p
Subj: DRM 600                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >      Considering this unit sells new for around 500 exactly
 > what do you expect to get out of it.  I'm interested but not
 > rich.  As long as it's in top shape with all hardware
 > /software I'll offer $400.

Sorry but it's already sold.
 
Thanks.
 
Bob.
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 11655
  To: JOHN COOK                                Date: 02/08/94  4:45p
Subj: CD-ROM Discs Trade\Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JC> Sherlock Holmes (not John) Consulting Detective I $20 shipped
JC> or trade for any OS\2 CD such as Hobbes (recent one)

I can get it brand new for $17.80 shipped from Starvector which
advertises in this section.

I'll give you $13 shipped.
 
  SMRead 3.3  #?    
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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 11656
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 02/08/94  5:22p
Subj: Re: Bbv2 For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Scott,
        Try and give me a list of what ya got to trade?

                                                Thanks,
                                                     Sam Figueroa


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From: ROSE CITY                              Number: 11657
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94 11:59p
Subj: Adult CD Rom Catalog                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
   ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
  Visa, Mastercard Accepted!

  Pacific Data Graphics Inc.

 *    W O R L D      W I D E      S H I P P I N G    *

     Adult Titles (Must state age 18+)
     ---------------------------------
 Adult Reference Library ......31.00    Moving Fantasies..............39
 After Dark Trilogy (Movie)....45.00    Mystique of the Orient (Mov)..46
 All Beauties (New!)...........39.00    Nightwatch Interactive (Mov)..48
 Amateur Models (New!).........39.00    PC-PIX 1......................39
 Animation Fantasies 1.........39.00    PC-PIX 2......................39
 Animation Fantasies 2.........39.00    Phone Sex (WAV recordings)....29
 Asian Ladies..................39.00    Adult Sampler.................19
 Betrayal (Movie)..............55.00    Physical Therapy..............29
 Busty Babes vol 1 rel 3.......44.00    Porkware 1....................39
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......39.00    Porkware 2....................39
 Debbie Does Dallas (Movie)....49.00    Private Collection 1..........39
 Deep Throat (Movie)...........49.00    Private Collection 2..........39
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......51.00    Private Pictures..............39
 Digital Dreams................39.00
 Dirty Talk (Movie)............45.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........39
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............39.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc..........49
 Erotic Encounters 1...........39.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........59
 Erotic Encounters 2 (New!)....39.00    Seymore Butts Interactive (M).59
 Extreme Delights (New!).......39.00    Smutware......................39
 Giffy Gold....................39.00    So Much Stareware.............39
 Girls of Vivid 1 (New!).......49.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......39
 Girls of Vivid 2 (New!).......49.00    Storm 1.......................39
 Hidden Obsessions (Movie).....52.00    Storm 3.......................39
 High Volume Nudes (New!)......39.00    Super Smutware (New!).........39
 Hot Pix 2.....................39.00    Storm 2.......................39
 Hot Pix 3.....................39.00    T&A 2 the Maxx................39
 Hot Pix 4.....................39.00    Total Fantasy (New!)..........39
 Hot Pix 5.....................39.00    Visual Fantasies..............39
 Kama Sutra (Movie)............49.00    Volcano.......................39
 Lovely Ladies II..............39.00    Wild Women (New!).............39
 Luscious Ladies (New!)........39.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29

 101 Sex Positions 1...........45.00    Best of Vivid (Movie).........49
 101 Sex Positions 2...........45.00    Bustin Out! (Movie)...........49
 Cat & Mouse (Movie)...........55.00    FAO 3 Disk Set................69
 Foxes.........................39.00    Gay World 1..(Gay)............49
 Gay World 2......(Gay)........49.00    GBL (Gay,Bi,Lesbian)..........39
 Girls of J. Stephen Hicks.....40.00    Girls of Vivid 2..............49
 Glamour Girls 1943............59.00    Hot Hunks......(Gay)..........49
 House of Dreams (Movie).......52.00    House of Sleeping Beauties....49
 King Dong (Movie).............52.00    L.A. Strippers (Movie)........49
 Legends of Porn (Movie).......49.00    Lovely Ladies 2...............41
 Manpower....(Gay).............49.00    My First Time (Movie).........48
 NixPix Hot Pix 1..............OUT!!    Paradise Club (Movie).........56
 Pixure Rom 1..................39.00    Pixure Rom 2..................39
 Pixure Rom 3..................39.00    Pixure Rom Triple Exposure...102
 Q69...........................36.00    Secrets (Movie)...............44
Tranz...(Chicks with Dicks)...39.00
 Wicked (Kodak Photo CD).......53.00    Wicked (Movie)................55

  Many New Adult titles Not listed, Call Our '24'Hr. BBS for the Latest
  Catalog: Or call 1-503-257-7255  for Help, Questions:

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 BBS (Line 1) ........503-257-7264..24hrs   Federal Express: Call Our BB
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 ORDERS ONLY!       1-800-400-7255..24hrs   * 1100 * Titles,and Descript
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Visa, Mastercard, Check, Money Orders Accepted:
Shipping is: $6.00 for up to '5' Cd's (2lbs).  (U.S.A. Only)
International Orders Please Include $12.00 for up to '5' Cd's
for Shipping:

     *************  Call 1-800-400-7255 *************
For your ORDER Today:

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P.S. Look for Our New ADULT CD-Rom Disk to be Out Soon:
Over '3000' Original Gif's, NEVER Seen Anywhere Before:
File.BBS Descriptions, NO BBS Adds! All Orginal From 640x480 to 1024x768
All European Women:     (At a Dealer Near You)
***********************************************************

       (c) 1994  Pacific Data Graphics Inc.
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From: WILLIAM ROUNTREE                       Number: 11658
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94  3:05p
Subj: Boris Vallejo CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I know that GooseBump Graphics had a CD of Boris Vallejo Fantasy Art, but he is
sold out and is having problems getting more....

Does anyone else have this CD?

453 Mb, 655 Files.  Gif Format Plus 24-bit color TIFF format.  Dos/Windows.
12/93?

If so, what price and what Credit Cards?
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From: TONY DAVIS                             Number: 11659
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 02/08/94  7:04p
Subj: Re: Cd powerbox 2 problem               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 02-01-94 DAVE PERKOVICH wrote to TONY DAVIS... 
 
 DP>   
 DP>  TD> I just got PowerBox 2 (having been a PowerBox 1 user). The DOS  
 DP>  TD> interface  is just plain broke. It will search some areas then 
 DP> will  
 DP>  TD> lock up in the  OS2 section.   
 DP>   
 DP> You're right - there is a fix available called GUI4-1.ZIP  
 DP>   
  
 OK, where can I get the fix for this thing? 
 
 Also, every day it seems I am finding things that don't work (unlike PB 1 
 which was fine). Such as files listed that are not on the disk, file info 
 that does not match up with what the file really is. I am a programmer 
 myself and it is hard for me to understand how something like this got out 
 there in this shape. Come on guys! you're better than this. 
 
                                Tony Davis 
 
 DP> CD-RAM business?  Should would make bug-fixing easier!  <GRIN>  
 DP>   
 DP> Dave Perkovich  
 DP> Damar Enterprises Software  
 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 11660
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/08/94  7:49p
Subj: New adult CD-ROMs. Preorder today!      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We are now accepting preorders for the all new BBS ready adult 
title from Gibson Publishing.  As always you get FREE shipping 
for preordering.  For the dealers we also have dealer pricing 
available for this new title.  Call for information. 
 
               Digital Delights    (02-22-94) 
 
"Digital Delights" is an excellent collection of new adult 
pictures and fantasy text files.  Over 500 MEGABYTES of GIF 
pictures are included.  Many are 1024 X 768 resolution.  Over 
400 fantasy text files are also included.  These text files 
are readable directly from the CD-ROM with no viewer needed. 
A viewer for the GIF pictures is also included.  No need to 
install anything to your hard disk!  This disc is fully BBS 
ready with multi-line file descriptions in several formats 
for use on virtually every type of BBS software used today! 
No BBS ads in any of the pictures.  All new for 94!  Must be 
age 21+ to purchase this disc.  $35.00. 
 
Visa, Mastercard, check, money order, and COD orders accepted. 
Credit cards and personal checks are not charged until we ship. 
 
    Preorder both ShareWare OnLine #3 and Digital Delights 
                       for only $59.95. 
 
    Adult Reference Library, Ultimate Erotica, D.D. $79.95 
 
       A.P.L., Ultimate Erotica, Storm-2, D.D.  $114.95 
 
      650+ MEG shareware CD only $5.95 with any purchase! 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN 47878  812-442-0110 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 11661
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/08/94  7:49p
Subj: ShareWare OnLine #3 Preorders           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    !!! NOW ACCEPTING PREORDERS !!! 
 
ShareWare OnLine 3 will soon be released!  We are now accepting 
preorders.  The preorder price is $34.95 and as always you get 
FREE shipping to your door for preordering.  Registered users of 
ShareWare OnLine will be receiving your special order 
instructions by mail soon. 
 
This new disc will contain over 600 MEGS of new software.  NO 
PROGRAMS INCLUDED ON THIS VERSION WILL BE OLDER THAN 08-01-1994! 
No other shareware CD can make that claim.  Over 600 MEGS of 
fresh files.  Many programs come directly from the author. 
 
The CD will be fully BBS ready with full multi-line file 
descriptions.  A master directory of BBS file descriptions will 
be included as well as description index files in each directory. 
 
We have updated our retrieval software to run faster and install 
easier.  You may tag, copy, view, unzip, and view pictures 
directly from the retrieval software. 
 
You may preorder your disc by telephone or send your order by 
mail to the address listed below.  Credit cards and checks are 
not cashed until we ship. 
 
Your complete satisfaction is GUARANTEED with ShareWare OnLine 
#3. Approximate ship date is 03-01-94 or sooner. 
 
Authors: You still have time to get your programs to CMS for 
review and possible distribution.  Send all software with a 
simple program description to the address listed below. 
Accepting until 02-18-94. 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN   47878 
Orders Only: 800-768-7929     Information: 812-442-0110 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 11662
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/08/94  7:49p
Subj: CD-ROM Bundles                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Look below for some great CD-ROM Software Bundles from CMS. 
All discs are IN STOCK ready for shipment. 
 
               ***** SINGLE CD PRICING ***** 
 
     600+ MEG Shareware CD only $5.95 with any purchase. 
 
Software Tool Chest - $34.95   Digital Delights (2-19) - $35.00 
ShareWare OnLine #2 - $29.95   Adult Reference Library - $37.95 
GameWare Collection - $24.95   SoundWare Collection    - $29.95 
Storm-2 Adult       - $22.95   ShareWare OnLine #3     - $34.95 (3-01) 
User's Choice Windows $29.95   A.P.L. Adult            - $37.95 
Ultimate Erotica    - $37.95   Futura Games            - $14.95 
Digital Dreams 1    - $24.95   Swimwear 93             - $19.95 
Digital Dreams 2    - $28.95   Software Treasure Chest - $24.95 
 
              ***** BUNDLED CD PRICING ***** 
 
User's Choice Windows          SoundWare Collection 
ShareWare OnLine #2            GameWare Collection 
Software Treasure Chest        ShareWare OnLine #2 
    $49.95                         $49.95 
 
ShareWare OnLine #2            Digital Dreams #2 
SoundWare Collection           A.P.L. Adult 
GameWare Collection            Adult Reference Library 
User's Choice Windows          Digital Dreams #1 
Software Treasure Chest        Storm-2 Adult 
Software Tool Chest            Digital Delights 
    $139.95                      $149.95 
 
                               User's Choice Windows 
Software Treasure Chest        ShareWare OnLine #2 
ShareWare OnLine #2            A.P.L. Adult 
    $39.95                     Storm-2 
                                   $74.95 
 
Storm-2 Adult                  Storm-2 Adult 
A.P.L. Adult                   Adult Reference Library 
    $49.95                     A.P.L. Adult 
                                   $59.95 
 
Adult Reference Library        A.P.L. Adult 
Storm-2 Adult                  Adult Reference Library 
Digital Dreams #2                  $54.95 
    $69.95 
                               ShareWare OnLine #2 
A.P.L./User's Choice           A.P.L. Adult 
    $44.95                         $44.95 
 
CMS accepts Visa & Mastercard, check, M.O., and COD orders. 
$5.00 standard shipping on any order.  These prices are in 
effect for a short time only.  Get your orders sent TODAY! 
CMS does accept your trades!  PUBLISHERS: Call us to trade 
your titles for ours!  Last updated: 02-06-1994. 
 
    CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
                TELEPHONE: 812-442-0110 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 11663
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/08/94  7:49p
Subj: Software Tool Chest Now Shipping        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     !!! NEW TITLE FROM CMS SOFTWARE !!! 
 
We are now shipping our all new utility disc.  Look below for a 
sample of what this disc contains.  If you wish to download the 
final description lists call the CMS Support BBS at 812-898-2561 
anytime 24 hours.  HST 14.4 online.  Look in file area #3 for 
TOOL.ZIP.  Available first call. 
 
This disc will include literally thousands of utility programs for 
just about every use you can think of.  No other collection comes 
even close this fabulous new collection.  You will find DOS and 
Windows utilities alike.  The ENTIRE LINUX operating system is 
also included on this disc.  Hundreds of programs for OS/2 are 
included.  If you have been looking for a source for networking 
software look no further.  Two full directories dedicated to 
networking.  Two directories of graphics utility programs. 
Virus protection programs are also included.  MOD music editing 
programs and music and sound players and programs.  Utilities 
for your printer and hundreds of communications and BBS utilities 
plus SO MUCH MORE. 
 
You ask why should I buy this disc?  This disc offers several 
special features not found anywhere else.  First and most im- 
portant this is the LARGEST collection of utilities you will 
find.  The disc is fully BBS ready with file descriptions in 
five formats so you will most likely be able to find a format 
suited for your needs.  If not just call us and we will convert 
one to your format.  Excellent custom file retrieval software is 
also included for the end users.  This software is very user 
friendly.  All menu driven.  Just type GO COLOR or GO MONO to 
start.  This software allows the user to tag, copy, view, unZIP, 
and even view graphics without installing them to your hard 
drive.  Preview contents or graphics before installing.  Program 
dates all the way up until December 1993.  No files are older 
than 1991. 
 
Thanks to all who preordered.  You will be recieving your disc 
withing a few days.  Only $34.95. 
 
 CMS SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
BBS: 812-898-2561  Questions: 812-442-0110  Orders: 800-768-7929 
 
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From: TOM COTTON                             Number: 11664
  To: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN                        Date: 02/08/94  2:39p
Subj: Genealogy CD's Wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CC> > friend had and it was great.  If you would like the 
  >> phone number for GRS 
  >> I will post it for you next week. TC in TXK. 
 
CC>I'm not Gary, but I would like to get the phone number. 
 
CC>--- 
  >* Origin: "Analog Man" San Diego, Ca (619)497-0113 (1:202/1601) 
 
The company name to obtain GRS Genealogical CD's that I use is J & D 
Distributing. 1-800-847-2890.  They are located in OREM, UTAH which I 
understand is near Salt Lake City.  They have a product catalog and it 
list the CD's available and their cost.  They also have regular floppies 
for those who do not have a CD player for their computer..  Nice folks 
to deal with.  The majority of the CD's they have now are Census 
Indexes.  The actual census is in the making but they are not saying 
when they will be available.  They have CD's that have Deaths, 
marriages, linked pedigrees, SS benefits, phone books, ect.  It took me 
a while to get use to them but they have helped me locate several family 
members. 
        One other source of valuable CD's will be the Bureau of Land 
Management.  They have Land Grant indexes for AR, LA, & FL now available 
at 15 dollars each state. Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Ohio and 
Wisconsin will be out by the end of the year.  I use them to establish a 
time frame and location for searching relatives.  Good Luck. TC 
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Time flies like wind.  Fruit flies like pears. 
 - JetMail v1.14 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire
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From: TOM COTTON                             Number: 11665
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/08/94  2:43p
Subj: Genealogy CD's Wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For anyone wanting Genealogy CD's I use J & D Distributing, P.O. Box 
1375, OREM, UTAH 84059-1375. Phone number 1-800-847-2890.  Rentals are 
also available if you just want to test drive.  Does anyone else know of 
any other sources for Genealogical CD's ? 
 þ QMPro 1.51 þ Misspelled?  Impossible.  My modem is error correcting. 
 - JetMail v1.14 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire
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From: GARY MULLETT                           Number: 11666
  To: TROY BROWN                               Date: 02/07/94  8:55p
Subj: Hot Pix                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TB>I was wondering if the Hot Pix series is still available?  I haven't seen
TB>any dealers advertising it, so I thought it might not be in production
TB>any more

I have some of the Hot Pix disks for sale.  If interested, give me a call
voice at (210) 658-0771 and we can discuss the details.
   
 * OLX 2.2 * I don't do taglines.

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From: RAY KOTARA                             Number: 11667
  To: JOHN COOK                                Date: 02/08/94  5:41p
Subj: CD-ROM Discs Trade\Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll send ya $20 shipped for that ARL.  Lemme know...  
 

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 11668
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 02/08/94  4:56p
Subj: Review of Bodacious Beauties            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the kind words, Max. I'm glad that you (and I hope others) continue
to find the reviews useful. A great deal of thanks and support goes to the
producers who are willing to provide products for review. I certainly can't
afford to buy every new CD just to try it out. Their willingness to help is
what makes the reviews possible in the first place.

Of course, each must ultimately make the decision to buy or not to buy. If my
opinions about the CDs are useful to that end, pro or con, I'm pleased.

Cheers!

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From: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                       Number: 11669
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 02/08/94  1:58p
Subj: Pioneer                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Matt!

In a message to All <02/06/94> Matt Bedtelyon wrote:

MB>        ³  "Your CD-ROM Drive Headquarters" ³
MB>        ÆÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͵

I am looking for a Pioneer DRM 600 at a reasonable price, can you
help?
...Jeff...

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From: LOUIS DIGGS                            Number: 11670
  To: JOSE VISBAL                              Date: 02/08/94  8:55p
Subj: CD-Rom Game Trade                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the reply, Jose.
I am sure that my Mac will only play Mac CDs.
Take care. 
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From: LOUIS DIGGS                            Number: 11671
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 02/08/94  8:58p
Subj: CD-ROM DISKS for sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hate to be a bother, Gene, but can you tell me what "Made in The USA" is a
bout.
Thanks, Louis Diggs 
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From: LOUIS DIGGS                            Number: 11672
  To: DAVID MANZ                               Date: 02/08/94  9:30p
Subj: Cd games for sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

David, can you tell me which ones, if any, of the CD Games can be played on a
Macintosh?
Thanks for your response. 
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From: MICHAEL KOWALSKI                       Number: 11673
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/08/94 11:39p
Subj: Interactive Distribution                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey- anyone looking to make money above and beyond what they make at their
current job give me a call at 602-886-9789.  Dealing with hundreds of name
brands such as Sony, GM , Ford, and services like VISA and MCI.  Can sell if
you like, but not where the emphasis is placed.  Can't promise you anything-
just looking to fill a few key slots in the next few weeks.

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From: TED KIDD                               Number: 11674
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 02/08/94  5:39p
Subj: OS/2 2.1 CD-ROM Edition                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MK> He is selling OS/2 2.1 on CD-ROM.  That does not cost $36 at Egghead 
MK> software.It costs more like $100-$120.  You are referring to OS/2 for 

But you can get OS/2 2.1 at Best Buy for approx. $80.
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From: MICHAEL PRIMAVERA                      Number: 11675
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/08/94  5:55p
Subj: Bodacious Beauties                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

This Cd is the most awesome adult Cd todate. I as a sysop like the 
thumbnail available for d/l feature so that my users get a sneak 
preview of the best hi-res gif's that I have seen. Plus with this 
feature they will know just which gif's they what before they logon. 
All though I would say that they would want each and everyone of them 
as they all are of the best quality and high standard gifs todate. As a 
stand alone CD for private viewing the GUI interface is the best. It is 
easy to use and you have the thumbnails to choose from as to what you 
would like to view. The install was so easy that even the first time PC 
user can install and be up and viewing in just a few minutes. Great job 
goes to the people who in my opinion has set the standard in what we 
will see from now on in the adult and maybe any of your graphical CD's 
to come.  Bodacious is a very fitting name as all the women are AMPLE 
canidates to fit that title. There is plenty of gif's to keep you at 
the edge of your seat as there is alittle over 2000 gif's. This Cd is 
well worth the money I spent on it and the fee to register it so you 
may use it for a BBS is a small price to pay to have your users falling 
all over their selfs to get in and D/L these Beautiful women. Also they 
have made it so that you can do a copy right from the Menu to your hard 
drive which is great that you don't have to back out and use a third 
party program to capture these images to your harddrive. I look forward 
to their next CD and will buy any that Graphical Images of Florida 
produce just knowing that I will get my moneys worth and then some.
A big thumbs up to you for going to the outer limits of the adult CD's 
and not just be one of the pack. You have won the leader of the pack in 
my opinion and I'm sure my users will agree! If you haven't bought your 
copy yet then start to look for this CD  will go as fast as they come 
in.
                 Michael.
               Sysop of Dirty Deeds BBS. 2-CD-Roms   
                                         16 CD's to choose from.

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From: AUDIE VICKERS                          Number: 11676
  To: ERIC FRANCIS                             Date: 02/07/94 11:20p
Subj: FREELAND,MI                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EF>I know this is off-topic, but I had to reply to this...I used to be a
EF>Freeland (Tittabawassee Township) cop. Small world.

  My brother-in-law is battling the forces of evil (as he puts it) in
  Auburn these days.  What years did you serve?

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From: AUDIE VICKERS                          Number: 11677
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94 11:22p
Subj: PC-Sig CD                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  For Sale or Trade:

  PC-Sig Library, version 8. (1990), with user's manual.

  Make offer.


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From: EDWARD KOLMAN                          Number: 11678
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/08/94  9:00p
Subj: Cd-rom & sound card                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a Media Vision Fusion CD-16 for sale. It consists
of a Sony cdu-31a player and a Pas 16 sound card which
also functions as a interface card for the cd-rom player.
This is a single spin player which runs 7th Guest very
smoothly and a true 16 bit stereo sound card which fully
supports Soundblaster (on board chip) or PAS 16 sound.
Alll the original docs and software excluding the cd-rom
programs and speakers. Asking $225.00 (paid $549.00 last
winter. Also have an internal Wang data/fax modem 14,400
all the error corrections etc. 10 year warranty and com-
fax software. Less than one year old asking $100.00. Will
consider trades for non propriety Pas 16 sound card etc.
Reply this base or call 216-582-1706.

... Insanity is hereditary... you get it from your kids!
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From: CHUCK ADAMS                            Number: 11679
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/08/94  8:45p
Subj: 96/2400 FAX MODEM WANTED                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a 9600/2400 FAX Modem (used it you have it) I am on fixed
income and handicapped so I can't shell out a ton of bucks.
leave a message or call me at 601-466-4952


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From: ZEN                                    Number: 11680
  To: MALIBU                                   Date: 02/09/94  9:00a
Subj: hey                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

call me before you leave today.
Ilove you

... Freedom is a hard-bought thing - A gift no man can give.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 11681
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/08/94  6:20p
Subj: PASCAL CD WANTED                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for a CD with (Borland Turbo 4.0 compatible) Pascal tools on it.
Items such as menu builders\managers, etc. Would really like to find
Technojocks Turbo Toolbox on CD if it's available. Anyone got any relevant
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 11682
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/09/94 12:11p
Subj: Review of Bodacious Beaut               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

YES! I'd still like to have a copy of the Almanac. Can you get me a decent
price?

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From: JASON KIMENKER                         Number: 11683
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/09/94  9:26a
Subj: CD-ROM Drives CHEAP!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                               Multimedia Bonanza
                               ------------------
 
Unbelievable prices on CD-ROM drives and multimedia kits are NOW available!
Here are just a few (of many) examples:
 
Manufactuter  Model     Xfer Rate   Speed   Other                Sale Price
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Philips       CM-205    150k/sec    350ms   Includes interface   ** $135 **
Mitsumi       005S      175k/sec    300ms   Includes interface   ** $159 **
Mitsumi       001D      300k/sec    250ms   Includes interface   ** $235 **
Panasonic     CR562     300k/sec    250ms   Includes interface   ** $229 **
Toshiba       XM3401B   300k/sec    200ms   Double Speed         ** $395 **
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Prices include brand new internal CD-ROM drives with full warranty!
Florida sales tax not included in price.
 
Multimedia kits, including Creative Labs Sound Blaster, MediaVision Fusion, 
and others available with double speed CD-ROM drives and 16 bit interface!
 
Please call to get on our mailing list, or to get faxed a copy of our price
sheet. We offer DISCOUNTS to resellers and SYSOPS!
--
Name     : Jason Kimenker               Brainchild Computer Distributions
Phone    : (800) 972-9263  9am to 9pm   14550 Bruce B. Downs Bld. 9 Suite 214
Fax      : (813) 978-8937  7 days/wk.   Tampa, Florida 33613   (813) 972-9263
Internet : kimenker@suntan.eng.usf.edu  *> Please ask for me when calling! <*

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From: JAMES POLLOCK                          Number: 11684
  To: LEE NICHOLS                              Date: 02/08/94  4:01p
Subj: Re: Pirate Cds                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Lee Nichols to Lawrence Mintz <=-

 LN> {snip}
 > Sorry for my short course in capitalism, but your
 > tirade about high prices in computer software really
 > ticked me off.
 LN> I appreciate your feelings in this matter but how does this explain
 LN> Mr. Bill Gates being one of the ten richest men in the world?

Right place + Right time + lots o' hard work.  How did Sam Walton get to
be one of the ten richest men in the world?  Same formula.  That and
inheritance from someone who followed that formula are the only way to
get rich!!!



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From: JAMES POLLOCK                          Number: 11685
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/08/94  4:08p
Subj: looking for NO 8                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a good price on a Night Owl's 8, and possibly a 7.
Any of you dealers got some of these left collecting dust, that can
go for a steep markdown?

Or will trade from:
SDN1
CICA Windows Nov 1992
Jones in the Fast Lane

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From: BOB BRYANT                             Number: 11686
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/09/94  6:33p
Subj: EXT SCSI DRIVES $95.00                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 N E W   E X T E R N A L   N E C   C D R 2 5 J   S C S I  C D - R O M

 D R I V E S  $ 9 5 . 0 0   W H I L E   S T O C K   L A S T S !
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             C A L L - ( 9 0 3 )  5 8 1 - 8 9 7 2

             ------------------------------------

These NEC CDR25J CD-ROM Drives Are NEW, EXTERNAL Drives, And Include

A/C Adapter, SCSI Cable (Yes.. TRUE 50 PIN SCSI), And User Manual.

Color: White
SCSI Address DIP: Accessable From Bottom Of Drive Case
Front: Volume/Phono/On-Off Switch
Load Method: Flip Top
Average Seek: 650MS - Faster w/ Caching
Average Data Xfer: 150KB
Dimensions: Width 6.0 Height 2.0 Depth 9.0

Great For BBS Use, Gaming, Etc..   THESE WILL NOT LAST LONG!

*********************** 90 Day Warranty **************************

** First Come First Serve -NO COD- Call To Reserve Drive Today **

Mail Check Or Money Order To: COMPUTER SERVICE & EQUIPMENT
                              P.O. Box 9341
                              Tyler, Texas 75711

                         CALL (903) 581-8972 TO RESERVE DRIVES

* SCSI ADAPTERS AND OTHER HARDWARE AVAILABLE AT LOW PRICES *

 * OLX 2.1 TD * COMPUTER S & E (903)581-8972


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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 11687
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/09/94 12:07p
Subj: cd-rom sold                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Forwarded from "DMV_4SALE Echo"
 * Originally by Michael Harris
 * Originally to all
 * Originally dated 9 Feb 1994, 12:07

The cd-rom is sold thanks anyway.

                                Mike Harris

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From: CHARLES BEYER                          Number: 11688
  To: SAM GOH                                  Date: 02/09/94  3:02p
Subj: CD's for trade sale....                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sam,

* In a message to All <02-06-94 17:04> Sam Goh wrote:

SG> Anyone intrested in the following?
SG> -Compton's MM encyclopedia
SG> -Lotus 123 for Windows
SG> -Macromind Action
SG> -Wing Commander 2 deluxe
SG> All CD's...  Will consider all offers....

How much do you want for Wing Commander 2 deluxe?

I'll trade you Civilization\Mantis Experimental Fighter CD for it.

l8r

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From: DICK WALSH                             Number: 11689
  To: TONY WHITE                               Date: 02/09/94 10:42p
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

As we discussed tonight you did finally get the mail in US Snail
boy was that disgusting   11 days from Toledo to Texas for a letter
and you know because you have the postmark.  <Dick>  I will let you
know when the package does get here from you via UPS Ground
Maybe I should send all my mail that way  <GRIN>

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From: RICHARD BUNTON                         Number: 11690
  To: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                        Date: 02/09/94 11:01a
Subj: sdult cd's trade/sell                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*******  Original Msg. From: Frank Cirillo Jr.  To: All  *******
       
FC*  Have the following cd's for sale or trade for other aduly cd's or 
FC* regular cd's:
>>*****************************************************************************

Hi Frank...

I have Microsoft's Cinemania I will trade to you for any two of
your adult CD's. 

I gave 69 Dollars for Cinemania so it should be an even trade.

If this is acceptable to you, You may ship the discs to:

Richard Bunton
311 Grand
Belton, Mo. 64012-1432

Phone: 1-(816)-331-8296

Let me know where to ship, (I already know who, )...
and I will ship mine at the same time.


         *************             ***************            
 *********  Richard  *********     *  ** * * * * * 
         *************             ***************            

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From: RAY KOTARA                             Number: 11691
  To: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                        Date: 02/09/94  6:45p
Subj: sdult cd's trade/sell                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Give ya $25 shipped for that Extreme cd... lemme know.  
 

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From: MIKE NILSEN                            Number: 11692
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/09/94  9:55p
Subj: Wanted: a CD-rom                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone have a cd-rom for sale or know of anyone that does?  If you do,
write me a message and tell me about it. 

Mike Nilsen
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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 11693
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94  9:52a
Subj: Adult CD-ROMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   Digital Broadcast Video
*                   3318 South 7th Street
*                  Abilene, TX 79605
* 
*    VOICE: (915)673-1911 BBS: (915)673-8173 14.4 BBS: (915)673-8181
* 
*   ****************** Adult CD-ROM Titles ****************************
* 
*Hot Pics 5.................................................... $ 22.50
*Amateur Models................................................   22.50
*A.P.L. Volume 1...............................................   22.50
**NEW* Interactive Adult Movie Almanac.........................   56.95
**NEW* Interactive Playboy Electronic Datebook.................   44.50
*Island Girls..................................................   16.95
*Island Girls Volume 2.........................................   16.95
*Hawaiian Classic..............................................   19.95
*Kama Sutra....................................................   38.95
*King Dong.....................................................   44.50
**NEW* Pinch of Pepper.........................................   44.50
**NEW* Hot Pics ...............................................   38.95
* 
*Many other titles available, call for pricing...  We also sell many
*non-adult CD-ROM titles.
*   
*You must be 18 years of age or older to order any of the above titles.
*Terms are as follows, we accept VISA, Mastercard, Money Order, and COD.
*add additional $5.00 for COD Charges.
* 
*Phone Lines Open 7-days a week 9am - 9pm CST.   If residing in Texas be
*sure to include 8.25% sales tax.   Make all checks and money orders
*payable to Digital Broadcast Video.
* 
*P.S. We will also give you a trade in discount on used Adult CD-ROMS, or
*     we will purchase your used Adult CD-ROMS.
*
Also we will beat any advertised price, need a price beat give us a call.

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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 11694
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94  9:54a
Subj: Game Software                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   Digital Broadcast Video
*                   3318 South 7th Street
*                  Abilene, TX 79605
* 
*    VOICE: (915)673-1911 BBS: (915)673-8173 14.4 BBS: (915)673-8181
* 
*****************************Software Titles ****************************
* 
*Wing Commander - Privater   3.5" Disk......................... $ 46.50
*Wing Commander - Privater Speech Pack.........................   19.95
*X-Wing REBEL ASSAULT CD-ROM...................................   42.99 
*Dr. Games  CD-ROM  BBS Ready Loaded with all types of PD Games   
****Special Purchase***                                           16.95
**NEW* *HOT* Arctic Baron......................................   38.95
**NEW* *HOT* Dragon's Lair CD-ROM, like the arcade version.....   39.95
* 
*Many other titles available, call for pricing......
* 
*   
*Terms are as follows, we accept VISA, Mastercard, Money Order, and COD.
*add additional $5.00 for COD Charges.
* 
*Phone Lines Open 7-days a week 9am - 9pm CST.   If residing in Texas be
*sure to include 8.25% sales tax.   Make all checks and money orders
*payable to Digital Broadcast Video.
* 
*P.S. We will also give you a trade in discount on used CD-ROMS, or
*     we will purchase your used CD-ROMS.

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 11695
  To: MICHAEL KOWALSKI                         Date: 02/10/94  7:19p
Subj: Interactive Distribution                Refer: 11673
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Hey- anyone looking to make money above and beyond what they make at
-> current job give me a call at 602-886-9789.  Dealing with hundreds of
-> brands such as Sony, GM , Ford, and services like VISA and MCI.  Can
-> you like, but not where the emphasis is placed.  Can't promise you an
-> just looking to fill a few key slots in the next few weeks.

Boy, that sounds shady... Please only advertise CD ROM products.

tim
moderator
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Subj: evastation! (1:300/9)
SEEN-BY: 18/2 300/1 9 15 406 600 396/1 3615/50 51  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: E MINI-CITY, KIND OF LIKE THE TRANL    Number: 11697
  To: US PART.
ONE OF THE REASONS I SUGGE      Date: 02/11/94 12:00a
Subj: ted making him sort of like a hostile
IsReal is eventually several of t  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

have multi level maps.  For instance, imagine wandering
around Xeboc's base only to find the current Xeboc Base (requiring
press of the G key) sitting in the final room.  Seems kind of
silly.  Also I don't see the Draku Leader in anything other then
the most awesomely outfitted fortress he can get, with all the
late
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From: B> WHAT DO YOU THINK? THE STUN RESI    Number: 11698
  To: TANT ARMOR WOULD GUARENTEE
GOOD IDE      Date: 02/11/94 12:00a
Subj: .  How about three levels of stun resistant armor?  Normal
armor would  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

asses of
stun resistant armor modification, giving 50% and 75% resistance,
would be available in ACME, and the armor of certain powerful
creatures like Xeboc, Icepick, and Deathstalker could could have
full 100% resistance (a nice bonus to the lucky slayer of these).
 SB> How about a generic system so you can specify a guard for any city?
Excellent....It would be nice if there was a way to specify each
such guard to be either 1) Requiring to be killed but once a game
by whichever recruit can first manage it, 2) Requiring to be killed
every time the city is entered, 3) Requiring to be killed unless
you have solved a certain quest (i.e aquiring the password).
 SB> This wou
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From: JOHN VAN HARE                          Number: 11699
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94  9:45a
Subj: XXX Extreme/Physical Therapy            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking to purchase the above CDs, or trade for Amateur Models  CD if you 
prefer.  

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From: JOHN VAN HARE                          Number: 11700
  To: ROGER DAVIS                              Date: 02/07/94  9:53a
Subj: XXX Extreme                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

All I have to trade right now is Amateur Models....I just purchased it from 
Scott about a week ago, it is in perfect shape but a little "tame".
You can netmail me at 1:2225/1  or voice at 616-467-4197.
Also I see you are quite active in hardware sales and trades, I am also a 
terminal hardware junkie, so if you have a list of things you are selling pass
that along also.

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From: ERIC HO                                Number: 11701
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/07/94  8:32a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 2 OF 5                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you carry Dr. Series?

   Here are some new titles :  Dr. OS/2
                               Dr. Fonts for Windows
                               Dr. Cliparts
                               Dr. Music Lab
                               Dr. Games for Windows

   Call your vendor for more detail.

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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 11702
  To: DUSTY JAMES                              Date: 02/05/94  8:19p
Subj: cd disk drive?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sony CDU-31A internal CD-Rom drive. 300ms 150kb transfer rate.
1 year old in excellent condition. Comes with cables to hook to sound
card.

$90 shipped.
 
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 11703
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/06/94 11:32p
Subj: Rebel Assult                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS>Rebel Assault CD - $40 shipped or best offer.
RN> Would you consider trading for an adult cd disc?  I have

NOT A CHANCE..
 
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From: DAVID MANZ                             Number: 11704
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/06/94  5:52a
Subj: Compleate List Of Cd'S Fo               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

--> David Manz Quotes a message written by Brice Fleckenstein
--> to David Manz on 15:09 02-03-94 saying:
BF> >disc set......$52.00 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea............
BF> Days
BF> >to Cocos Island...................$35.00 7 Days in
BF> >August...........................$48.00 9-Digit Zip
BF> 
BF>  Please fix your formatting - this message was essentially unr
BF> written.
BF> 
BF>  Adding a single space " " to the start of each line is usuall
BF> cure
BF> for the problem....
BF> 
 This is the first time I have heard of anyone haveing trouble reading the
message. It appears ok on my end. When I typed up the text file I did put
spaces at the begining of each line. I think it was 4 spaces. It might be that
I am useing the JAM message base but I hope not. If there is anyone else out
there that is haveing problems with the messages I am posting please let me
know. I would truely like to know if it is something I am doing wrong or just
an isolated incedent.
Thanks,
David
 
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From: DAVID MANZ                             Number: 11705
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  6:23a
Subj: Educational & Literature CD's           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                            
                            Education & Literature CD's
           
                  Presented by Precision Computers & Electronics
                                      &
                              The PowerHouse BBS

                  Voice 407-469-3204
                  BBS   407-469-2414
                  NetMail to: 1:363/227@FidoNet
                              62:3800/35@WorldNet

   
   Aloha, Hawaii: Exploar the islands with this multimedia collection of 
                  1,500 photo-shows, music, animations and facts about
                  the exotic US State...    $24.00  (PC)

   Amanda's Stories: Children will be enthralled by the full-color
                  animations that accompany these 10 critically 
                  acclaimed stories by Amanda Goodenough....
                          (MAC & PC)        $60.00

   Amazing Universe: 101 detailed images from observations in NASA
                  spacecraft. Aoom to explore details of images 
                  from deep space, nebulae, planets, + more. Also
                  Hubble satellite photos.  $62.00  (MAC & PC)

   American Vista: Photos, maps, regional music and speech, history,
                  wildlife; 1050 full-color images of the Fity Nifty.
                                            $38.00  (PC)

   Anglo Saxons: Exploration of thier art, literature and their way of
                  life by  British Historical Museum....
                                            $120.00  (PC)

   Annabel's Dream of Ancient Egypt:  Annabel Cat dreams of ruling
                 ancient Egypt in this wonderfully illustrated 
                 story with learning exercises and Verdi's Aida.
                                            $64.00   (PC)

   Arthur Teacher Troubles: Arthur and his friends educate your child
                 in this multimedia cartoon. For ages 4-10 years.
                                            $27.00   (PC)

   Atlas of U.S. Presidents: Illustrations, Pictures and narratives
                 of each President. With actual speeches...
                                            $32.00   (PC)

   Barney Bear Goes to School: The tale of Barney Bear entertains
                 your child while teaching early reading and math
                 skills. For ages 4-10 years $18.00  (PC)

   Barney Bear Goes to Space: Send your child along with lovable 
                 Barney Bear as he tours the solar system in the
                 space shuttle...            $18.00  (PC)

   Barron's Guide to Colleges and Universities: Complete guide 
                 for your graduating students $25.00 (PC)

   Beacon: Multimedia guidence counselor resource. Contains
                 detailed information on 2 & 4 year colleges,
                 graduate schools, civilian and military career 
                 paths, scholarships, worksheets, plus More.
                                              $725.00  (PC)

   Careers Opportunities: Make competent career choices with this
                text and images database. Includes job titles, 
                descriptions, salaries, working conditions and
                educational level requirements. $29.00 (PC & MAC)

   CD Source Book of American History: 28 full length volumes of
                History plus more. (PC)    $61.00

   College Handbook 1992: Advice on selecting a school, the offical
                College Board database of more than 2,700 colleges,
                with stats and scholorship information. Plus More.
                             (PC)          $35.00

   Countries of the World: The full text of 106 country study books,
                with over 10,00 images, anthems, flags and detail
                maps.  (PC & MAC)          $350.00

   Curious George Learns the Alphabet: Let your child learn the 
                alphabet with George, multimedia and entertaining.
                      (PC & MAC)           $45.00

   Darwin: The complete, collected works of Charles Darwin. Over
                650 illustrations including Darwin's specimens,
                original maps, plus natrual sound recordings!
                This is a great teaching guide & is recommended 
                for all ages.   (PC & MAC) $60.00

   Dictionary & Languages: Dictionaries, Word Processors,
              and Thesauruses - IN 12 FOREIGN LANGUAGES! Includes
              many humorous glossaries, crossword cryptogram
              solvers & spell-checkers.  (PC) $16.00

   Dictionary of the Living World: Over 2,600 detailed files on
              over 5,000 species, 60 animated movies, full-motion
              video, dictionary of biology and recorded sounds
              depicting life on earth. Includes teacher notes and 
              over 3,000 test entries. (PC & MAC)  $29.00

   Dictionary for Children : Macmillan: Complete dictionary,
         pronounces words, word games and ZAK, a helpful character. 
                          (PC)            $31.00

   Don Quixote: Join Don & his pal Sancho on a journey of self-
         discovery. Young people and adults will grow in wisdom with 
         this classic of modern literature. Humor, drama, vivid
         illustrations, lively music, and colorful naration.
                        (PC)              $29.00

   Education Master 2nd Edition: More than 1,000 educational programs
         for students from preschool-age to college-age. Suitable
         for classroom and home school environments.
                       (PC)               $27.00

   Family Choice Compton's: Entertaining educational software for
         your children. 15 programs, including ones for algebra,
         history, reading, grammar and science. (PC)
                                          $32.00

   Family Education Collection: 21 educational programs from first
         byte, math, english, to preparing for the SAT.
                     (PC)                 $29.00

   Learn to Speak: French by Hyperglot (2 Disk Set): A full course
         of language lessons taught by native speakers. Emphasizes
         developing hearing and speaking skills. Cultural notes,
         interactive exercises. By HyperGlot. Regular level.
                  (PC)                    $70.00

   Learn to Speak: German, by Hyerglot: Learn German with this 
         top-of-the-Line course from foremost source in foreign
         language multimedia learning software.
                 (PC)                     $155.00

   Great cities of the World, Volumes 1 & 2: A multimedia tour of 
         10 of the world's most impressive metropolises: Bombay,
         Cairo, Londonl Los Angeles, Moscow, New York, Paris,
         Rio de Janeiro, Sydney and Tokyo ( Vol. 1) Vol. 2 encompeses
         Berlin, Buenos Aires, Chicago, Jerusalem, Johannesburg
         Rome, San Francisco, Singapore, Seoul and Toronto.
                 (PC)            $25.00 each or both for $47.00


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From: DAVID MANZ                             Number: 11706
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  6:23a
Subj: Educational & Literature CD's           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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    Great Wonders of the World: Explore more than a dozen of the most
         fantastic sights in the world, Including the Great Wall of 
         China, Taj Mahal, Venice and Chartres.
                    (PC)             $37.00

    Great Wonders of the World 2: Updated Multimedia tour of the
         Worlds greatest sights.
                    (PC)             $43.00

    Greatest Books Collection: The ultimate classic book collection
         reading, research, reference. More than 100 titles; pictures,
         and engravings too.
                  (PC)               $34.00

     History of the World: Finally a complete and authorative collection
         of works ffrom dawn of civilization to present day...
                   (PC)              $68.00

    Illustrated Holy Bible: The King James Version and 100 beautiful
         illustrations presented with a multimedia interface. Great
         for children and adults.
                   (PC)              $48.00

    Interactive Old Testament: Old testament never has looked so good
         before, with this interactive tutor, including archaelogy.
                   (PC)              $50.00

     Interactive Storytime vol 1: By clicking on any object on-screen
         begingging readers can see its spelling and hear it pronounced.
         Three stories: Goldilocks and the Three Bears, The Little
         Red Hen, and The Boy and the Donkey.
                  (PC)               $25.00
     
     Interactive Storytime vol 2: The series continues with The Boy Who 
         Cried Wolf, The Milkmaid and Her Pail, and Belling the Cat.
         Requires a little adult assistance..
                   (PC)              $25.00

     Interactive Storytime vol 3: Additional stories in the series.
          Includes The Hare & Tortoise, The Lion and the Mouse,
          and The Citey and the Country Mouse. The graphics and 
          audio enhance learning and retention.
                   (PC)              $25.00

     Introduction to Classical Music: Over 3 hours ofexcerpts from
          over 200 classical pieces with 46 complete composer
          biographies. Slide show
                   (MPC)              $77.00

      Jazz A Multimedia History: An intriguing look into the history
          of Jazz. Biographies of the greats with their sound in CD
          quality audio
                   (PC)               $35.00

      Jedi (3 Disc + Workbook): Great for students and teachers.
          Educational package on Earth and environmental science 
          issues; changing ozone levels, sea level change, atoms
          and molecules in comets, plus a whole lot more.
                   (PC)               $45.00

      Journey to the Heart of Japan: Learn Japanese history, cultrue,
          religion, geography and social structure.
                  (PC)                $45.00

      Languages of the World: The equivalent of a cross-referencing 
           translations dictionary and thesaurus for 12 languages:
           Chinese, Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, French, German,
           Italian, Japanese, Norwegian, Spanish and Swedish.
                   (PC & MAC)          $45.00

      Lessons in American History: Advanced input of many books on
           history compiled for school or private use.
                   (PC)                $67.00



                
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From: AUDIE VICKERS                          Number: 11707
  To: EARL COOK                                Date: 02/06/94  5:28p
Subj: Tag Line - Oops?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EC>Actually, Naeem, it IS pretty neat, except that it is misspelled. The
EC>correct spelling is:

EC>       PneUmonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis


   Huh?!?!?!?


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From: AUDIE VICKERS                          Number: 11708
  To: JOHN COOK                                Date: 02/06/94  5:30p
Subj: TRADE WANTED                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JC>WANTED:
JC>        Any of the following ADULT CD-ROM discs:

JC>        Busty Babes 2

JC>OFFERING:
JC>        Adult Reference Library

  I have Busty Babes 2.  Trade you for ARL.


 * OLX 2.2 * I've got what it takes, but no one wants it!!


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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 11709
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94 10:10a
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************** GRAPHICAL IMAGES OF FLORIDA, INC. ****************

                              Presents

************************ BODACIOUS BEAUTIES ***********************

            Available THIS WEEK from your distributor!!!

From Mr. Bob Jackson's review:

     Bottom Line -  This is a better CD than Southern Beauties, and that's
     saying something! My recommendation, FWIW, is that this product is
     well worth adding to your personal collection.

     B_BEAUTS is an unqualified winner IMHO. If licensed collections are
     here to stay, and in-the-know sources say they are, then this CD is
     showing, and leading the way.

Mr. Jackson's complete review (including his constructive criticisms) is
available for download (713-589-2690 to 14.4) or FREQing (Node ID:1:106/30)
from The Hard Disc Cafe BBS in Houston, TX. A guest login ID of CD REVIEW
or CD_REVIEW will get you download privileges for the ZIPped file:
"B_BEAUTS.ZIP" (all three parts).



            A FULLY COMMERCIAL -- FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC

             More Than 85 Well Known BODACIOUS BEAUTIES
               Over 2,000 Hi-Res GIFs at 1024x768x256
             Over 650 Megabytes (including thumbnails)
                      From Original 35mm Slides
                          New GUI Interface
                      Installs Quickly & Easily
                       Extremely User Friendly
                      Mouse Support & Popup Help
                     Multiple Directory Slide Show

                               RATED - X

*********************** FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!! ********************
********* FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS *********

                     $25.00 for the first node
             $15.00 each additional node (up to five)
             $12.00 each additional node (up to ten)
             $10.00 each additional node thereafter  
 
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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 11710
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 02/07/94 10:11a
Subj: Bodacious Beauties - Review             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bob, thank you for the very nice review of our disc "Bodacious Beauties".
We appreciate all of your constructive criticisms and will attempt to
correct and/or implement them on our future releases.  As I said before:
You do a great service to both the publishers and the purchasers of adult
discs (without compensation).  I hope they appreciate it as much as we do,
as your reviews enable us (the publishers) to improve the quality of our
productions.  Thanks again,

David & Blaine.  
 
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 11711
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/07/94 10:26a
Subj: Re: Biker Girls                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


In a message to Lee Noga <02-05-94 03:38> Randy Neuner wrote:

RN>> Lee, how much for biker girls and what is your mailing address?  I
RN>> NEED your mailing address.

We will be notifying all our customers by mail the price and availability of
the disc--Too busy making the disc, have not gotten the chance to think about
the marketing yet--It will be to press by 1 March--

Our address is:

Lions Den International
2820 Howland Blvd Suite 5
Deltona, FL 32725

Hugs,

Me  
 
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From: ELIZABETH RODIER                       Number: 11712
  To: ERIC HERTZFELDT                          Date: 02/07/94  2:00p
Subj: Cookbook CD?                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EH>For multimedia-type CD's, I'd recommend the Better Homes and Gardens CD
EH>cookbook. It has full color photo's of all recipes, you can search for low
EH>salt, low cholesterol, or low sugar, and it has movie clips of various

Your reply was the only one.  This was the kind of thing I wanted to
know. Hope there will soon be a good CD with nutritional information for
calculating the values for modified recipes.  I have one old one that is
very awkward to use.

There is a "rich and famous" cookbook CD at the office store but those
are not my kind of recipes.

 * SLMR 2.1a * Elizabeth

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From: ED ANDERSON                            Number: 11713
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/08/94  1:13a
Subj: adult cd                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have conan and the wizard 6-pak and i want to trade for so[Dme adult cd roms
 any will do but i am looking for busty babes 1 and T&A 2 the maxx
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From: THOMAS MENG                            Number: 11714
  To: ROGER DAVIS                              Date: 02/07/94  8:59p
Subj: CD'S 4-Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RD> Will offer $18 shipped for BB II.
 
  Someone told me they wanted it for $21.00 and I ship. If I don't get a answer
I'll post it again and see what happeneds...
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From: THOMAS MENG                            Number: 11715
  To: DAVID RYDER                              Date: 02/07/94  9:02p
Subj: CD'S 4-SALE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DR>      If this is acceptable, post or netmail your address and I will
DR>      send you a check.
 
  I think its sold, but won't know until I receive the check. Will repost if
deal falls through.....
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 11716
  To: MICKEY LIGHTSEY                          Date: 02/08/94  3:24a
Subj: Re: Pioner 18 disk changer              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 5 Feb 94 03:02pm, Mickey Lightsey wrote to All:

>>    Hi, I was wondering if anyone in this echo is running the 
>>    Pioneer 18 disk changer? I'm seriously thinking about this, 
>>    but due to the amount of $ it costs I was looking for any 
>>    available feedback. If I do get it I'll be looking for some 
>>    good adult disks, I have 5 good shareware disks. Any info is 
>>    appreciated. 

Mike, we have one running here on our system right now. The unit offers
300ms average access with a 614Kps transfer rate. The change time between
disk 1 and 18 is 4 - 5 sec. These units are SCSI-2 systems and will work
just fine with another other SCSI system as well as the older Pioneers.

As to thier size, they are 10 1/4" x 7 5/8" x 16 5/8" and the magazines
are stacked ontop of one another.

Regarding the price, it's not as bad as you think, when stop and add it all
up. If you were to purchase 18 new cdrom systems at $200. ec ( and that would
be a bargin for a quad spin unit, you'd have well over $3,000. tied up into
the units. Whereas the 18 disk unit is priced at $1895. it's a real bargin
when you're looking to save $$.

If you need any additional information, please feel free to give us a call
at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Nope, sorry....we don't have anymore in stock. We received 15 units and
they went out as fast as they came in. We should have some more coming
in soon I hope....


Boris Osadciw

... Protected Mode Xpress! It's hot!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 11717
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/08/94  3:24a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare   - $379.00  NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $239.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DRM602X Bare    - $849.00  Pioneer DRM604X Bare  - $1069.  -SCSI
Pioneer DRM1804X 18disk - $1895.   Texel Int 245ms w/ctl - $369.00 -SCSI
Texel Ext 245ms Bare    - $469.00  Texel Int 3021 Bare   - $189.00 -SCSI
Texel Ext Complete Kit  - $569.00  Toshiba Int 3401B Bare- $379.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare  - $479.00  ( Groilers Encyc DOS v6. or 5. $39. )

ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Be Young! Have Fun! Use Silver Xpress!
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From: BOB BAKER                              Number: 11718
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 02/07/94 10:55p
Subj: cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Shane, I really don't know what it's worth. I got it with my cd-rom. How about
you check with your friend, and if he (or she) is interested, make me an
offer? Let me know. Bob

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From: JASON CHANCELLOR                       Number: 11719
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94 10:36p
Subj: CD-ROM CREATION                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                     ---------- CD Technology -----------
                        Profesional Recording Services

       CD-Rom Creation Prices                 Bulk CD-Rom Production
      ------------------------               -------------------------
       0   - 100 megs   :  $99               10 CD's / 650 Megs :  $99
       100 - 300 megs   : $145               11 and Up          : CALL
       540 - 650 megs   : $199

                           ** Sysop's SPECIAL **
                         -------------------------
                            0 - 650 megs : $125
                      Please Include Board and Number

               Data accepted in QIC-40 and QIC-80 tape formats.
            We also accept floppies but please call before sending.

   *  2 Day Shipping included with all orders - call for priority service *
      *  Our Profesional staff has a 2 day turnaround on most CD orders *

 Why have a custom CD-Rom created for yourself?
     * Unprecedented error correction which makes CDs practically
          indestructible.
     * One CD will hold over 450  1.44k floppies and over 1800
          360k disks.
     * Easily transportable from one system to another.

  Please send Check or Money order payable to CD Technology to :

                              PO BOX #835034
                              Richardson, TX
                              75083-5034

  If you have any questions please call CD Technology at :
       (214) 578 - 6390   (Call 24 Hours a day)
                          (Buisness Hours 8 am - 8 pm)

  For Order form   FREQ : CD   from 1:124/8005

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From: PHUOC LE                               Number: 11720
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94  7:47p
Subj: Compton's Interactiv Encyclopedia for Windows  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a copy of Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia for Windows I want to
sell.  $40.  I live in the SD area.  If you live somewhere else, I might be
able to work out a deal with you.
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From: PHUOC LE                               Number: 11721
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94  7:48p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for a used copy of the 7th Guest in the San Diego area so I can
pick it up.  If you have one for sale at a good price, please leave me a
message.
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From: JAMES THORNE                           Number: 11722
  To: BRIAN FERGUSON                           Date: 02/07/94  7:40a
Subj: SOFTWARE TOOLWORKS ENCYC                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ok, I'll take $65 and pick up the shipping, US mail.  Send a check to 
 
James Thorne
9306 Charterlawn
Houston, TX 77070
 
I'll send them 1st class when I get your check.

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From: FRANKY WONG                            Number: 11723
  To: DAVID MANZ                               Date: 02/07/94  2:37p
Subj: CD List                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi,

How about shipping & misc charges?

Accept AE?  If order must be prepaid, to whom should the check be payable?

Please quote for
        7th Guest,
        MS Bookshelf'93
        Where in the World is Carmen SanDiego Deluxe

Do you have Ultima VIII?

Please send complete catalog of software to:

        Franky Wong
        PO BOX 10899
        Tamuning
        Guam 96931


Thanks.
 þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Chicken heads are the chief food of captive alligators.


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From: FRANKY WONG                            Number: 11724
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 02/07/94  2:41p
Subj: Rebel Assault                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi,

CS>Rebel Assault CD - $40 shipped or best offer.

You mean that you have RA for sale?  Please supply details.


Thanks.
 þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it?


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From: FRANKY WONG                            Number: 11725
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 02/07/94  2:44p
Subj: Best CDROM Prices 5/5                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi,

Please quote for shipping & all misc charges to the following:

        Tamuning
        Guam 96911


Thanks
 þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Proofread carefully to see if you any words out.


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From: FRANKY WONG                            Number: 11726
  To: SAM BECKWITH                             Date: 02/07/94  2:49p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi,

I am VERY interested in your catalog of CD ROM.  Please:

1.      netmail/email me the full catalog, or send to the following
        addresses:

        Franky Wong
        PO Box 10899
        Tamuning
        Guam 96931

2.      Quote available date for MS Bookshelf'94.

3.      Quote for MS Bookshelf'93.

4.      Quote shipping & all misc charges to "Tamuning, Guam 96931."

5.      Accept AE?  To whom should the check be made payable?  Please
        supply terms/details of payment.

6.      Anything besides CD?  How about Ultima VIII?


Thanks.
 þ OLX 2.1 TD þ MSI HQ! BBS - Home of Off-Line Xpress 805-395-0650


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From: FRANKY WONG                            Number: 11727
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94  2:51p
Subj: MSJ CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi,

I am looking for new/used MSJ CD.  Please quote.


Thanks
 þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Mental Floss prevents Moral Decay.


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From: FRANKY WONG                            Number: 11728
  To: DON CROUCHER                             Date: 02/07/94  2:59p
Subj: Misc Boards & Drives ForS               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi,

DC>                                CONTROLLERS
DC>    [2] WD1003-WA2   16bit MFM W\FDD                           $25/ea
DC>        AH1522       16bit SCSI W\FDD w/Sftw   [New $120]        $75
DC>        SIB IDE Host 16bit IDE Only{Miniscribe}                  $10
DC>        IDE + I/O    16bit IDE, Ser, Par {ACER no-docs}          $15
DC>        OMTI5527      8bit RLL/MFM  w/Sftw {Omti}                $15
DC>        EV811 Rev.B   8bit Everex QIC-02 Tape Controller         $10

I am interested in SCSI or SCSI-2 controller.


1.      I am interested in AH15xx.  What kind of models do you have?

2.      My Config:      NEC 3Xe CD connected to SB16 ASP.
        My Question:    Can I still connect NEC to AH15xx while
                        playing games with SB16 ASP?

2.      Please quote for shipping & all misc charges to the
        following addresses:

        Tamuning
        Guam 96931
 þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch!


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From: FRANKY WONG                            Number: 11729
  To: BRYANT PARK                              Date: 02/07/94  3:28p
Subj: King's Quest Vi Brand New               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi,

BP>BP>King's Quest VI Brand New $30 shipped to any 48 states. Leave message or
BP>call Bryant 615-662-9073.

I live at Guam, which is US States!  i.e. normal postage to anywhere in USA
or vice versa are the same as in mailland.

So, please check for shipping & misc charges to the followings:

        Franky Wong
        PO BOX 10899
        Tamuning
        Guam 96931

Accept AE?  To whom should a check be payable?


Thanks.
 þ OLX 2.1 TD þ MSI - Bringing it all together in '92


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 11730
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 02/07/94  9:52p
Subj: Night Owl version 11 !!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Ray!

Sunday February 06 1994 17:58, Ray Herold wrote to All:

 RH> *@SUBJECT:Night Owl version 11 !!!!!!!!!!                             N
 RH>         TCM Computing and Night Owl are PROUD to announce:

 RH>      !!HOT!!                                           !!HOT!!
 RH>      !!HOT!!       >>>  Night Owl Version 11 <<<       !!HOT!!
 RH>      !!HOT!!                                           !!HOT!!
 RH>                    !!!! IN STOCK AND SHIPPING !!!!

 RH> Contrary to claims made by those who have an axe to grind,
 RH> or have their own reasons for trying to raise questions about v11, there
 RH> are NO problems with this outstanding new disk from the Shareware leader!

What about Buggs Bunny?  I have a friend at Disney who was not amused.  Seems
Night Owls has a BAD habit of including files on their discs that are going to
get SYSOPS sued.  Commercial software, viruses, copyrighted pictures... WHAT's
NEXT???

Later,

Dave

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 11731
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/08/94  5:40p
Subj: Top Drawer Released!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                            Top Drawer 
                That's right a great ShareWare ROM 
                            for $19.00 
 
      Big Sky Rom's newest release, TopDrawer, is now shipping; 
      for you who have pre ordered, it's on its way. 
      Yeah, I know.  What kind of ROM am I getting for 19 
      bucks? 
 
                         ANSWER 
 
             Possibly the best ROM you have to date! 
 
      This ROM is published by SysOps for the SysOp.  Tired of 
      compiling list and heaven knows what else to get a ROM 
      online? 
 
      This is the answer you have been waiting for, affordable 
      files at this introductory price, to show what TopDrawer 
      is and can do. 
 
      Files.bbs in every DIR, so simple it can be run on a test 
      drive of QMODEM (tm). Plus SPITFIRE (tm) files SFFILES.BBS. 
      And you 4DOS (tm) users will find descript.ion files. 
      If you're a PC-BOARD(tm) SysOp, you'll find a comprehensive 
      SETMEUP.exe that will install the ROM for you! (...You do 
      have to have it in the CD-ROM player!) grin........ 
      All archives are compressed using pkzip (PKWARE (tm) 204G 
      using maximum compression. 
      All archives and their members have been scanned with the 
      latest virus scanners. 
 
      All files have file_id.diz's in them, GOOD ONE's, at that; 
      we added over 1,859 full descriptions when none were available 
      or the author thought that high ASCII looked better. 
 
      And on TOP of all that, we have made a great effort to remove 
      commercial files and other copyright infringements. 
      Now, what this means is that we set this ROM up for the BBS, 
      not the end user!!!! 
 
    We have, because of current legal cases and judgments within the 
    publishing community, removed VOC, WAVE, and MIDI sound files. The 
    real programs are still there; we just deleted the lawyer syndrome. 
    All of the GIF's are our own, no copyright infringements to worry 
    about. You are licensed as the ROM owner to distribute them to your 
    users. 
 
    There is also a feature authors DIR.  That's the authors we felt 
    exhibited professional demeanor in program ability and distribution 
    ease.  Plus, we have the text files that are the latest rage -- that 
    is, we have STEVE ROBERTS stuff, NOT Megabytes of FAQ's or other 
    drivel.  We have taken great pains to think of the user and the SysOp. 
    You will find your users cruising through this easy file system and 
    praising you for the setup (that is, if you have great users like we 
    do). 
 
    Both the SuperMart BBS and PC-MONTANA BBS have handicapped users, and 
    thought went into the files and their placement to enhance the interface 
    for these special individuals. 
    Ok, now to the brass tacks:  Files -- there are 4,174;that's 624 Mb + 
    uncompressed.  Dirs -- no, not 50 or 60, just 45 ; and this ROM will 
    interface with our first release, BIG SKY 01, so you don't have to do 
    a major setup all over again! 
 
  You've probably heard other SysOps saying that they're removing such and 
  such ROM offline because of one problem or another.  We listen to these 
  SysOps; you are our bread and butter (low cost spread in this ROM's price). 
 
  Now, where can I get this ROM?  Well, read the list and you can order this 
  baby online or by voice. 
 
          The COMPUTER WORKS  Data   1-205-671-0092 
                              Voice  1-205-793-4481 
 
          THE SUPERMART BBS   Data   1-406-586-3774 
                              Voice  1-406-586-8344 
 
          PC-MONTANA BBS      Data   1-406-284-3120  THE MOTHER BOARD for 
                                                     BIG SKY ROMs ! 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 11732
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/08/94  5:39p
Subj: Top Drawer Shareware                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Top Drawer has been released $19.00.  I have been working with the file 
lists, accumulating stats.  I am very pleased with the file lists.  The 
producers didn't hold back here!  Every file has a very complete 
description, and there is a file_id.diz in every archive. 
 
The following is a list of each file area and its contents: 
 
1-Applications                        has    63 files in  15997193 bytes 
2-Banner/Label Programs & Forms       has    25 files in   3515446 bytes 
3-Business Accounting & Finance       has   104 files in  25399144 bytes 
4-Benchmarks/Virus/Diagnostics Aids   has    63 files in   7320366 bytes 
5-Batch/Boot/Event Utilities          has    26 files in   1595654 bytes 
6-C.A.D. & C.A.M.                     has   103 files in  18077003 bytes 
7-Communications Programs             has    80 files in  12351707 bytes 
8-Comm Protocols & Modem Setups       has    44 files in   3941638 bytes 
9-Compression Programs                has    55 files in   6072341 bytes 
10-DataBase Programs                  has    69 files in  17295731 bytes 
11-Desktop/Desktop Pub/Spreadsheets   has    17 files in   3221633 bytes 
12-DOS Utilities                      has   179 files in  14074060 bytes 
13-GAMES and Educational Programs     has   365 files in  76315800 bytes 
14-Graphic Programs & Utilities       has    80 files in   9481809 bytes 
15-Graphics/Animations/Raytraced      has    26 files in   5368421 bytes 
16-Ham Radio/Shortwave Listening      has    93 files in  15695128 bytes 
17-Handicapped Aids & Utilities       has    12 files in   1409230 bytes 
18-Home & Personal Computing & Humor  has   108 files in  17143570 bytes 
19-Home Recipes / Health / Medicine   has    30 files in   4198633 bytes 
20-LANs/Multitask/Nets/AltOperatingSy has    77 files in  14132417 bytes 
21-Menu Programs & Shells             has    37 files in   5179932 bytes 
22-OffLine Mail Readers               has    51 files in   8905739 bytes 
23-OS/2(tm) Files / Programs          has   233 files in  34110248 bytes 
24-Patches & UnProtects               has    74 files in   9560616 bytes 
25-Printer Helps / Drivers /Utilities has    61 files in   7648704 bytes 
26-Speaker & SB & AdLib & Midi Utils  has    12 files in   2211023 bytes 
27-Religion & Genealogy Programs      has   101 files in  12080974 bytes 
28-WordProcessing & Text Editors      has    67 files in   7900261 bytes 
29-Win Communications                 has    26 files in   5191920 bytes 
30-Win Desktop / Editors / Fonts      has    87 files in  12752918 bytes 
31-Win Drivers                        has    14 files in   3920702 bytes 
32-Win Games / Sound Utilities        has    72 files in  10276459 bytes 
33-Win Home & Personal                has    79 files in  16611588 bytes 
34-Win Icons BMP's & Screen Apps      has    21 files in   5012270 bytes 
35-Windows NT(tm)                     has    18 files in   2080386 bytes 
36-Win Utilities and Help files       has   184 files in  26012861 bytes 
37-Windows(tm) Demo                   has    14 files in   6026718 bytes 
38-Outerware(tm) - Original Images    has   121 files in  34629332 bytes 
39-Feature Authors and Unique Release has    35 files in  10364486 bytes 
40-BBS Door Programs                  has   309 files in  46570628 bytes 
41-BBS Utilities                      has   507 files in  35141889 bytes 
42-BBS Software Packages              has    57 files in  21106603 bytes 
43-RIP Icons/Buttons/Screens/Utilitie has    91 files in   5721549 bytes 
44-PCBoard(tm) [PPE] BBS Extensions   has   185 files in   2863025 bytes 
45-BBS Network Info Pak & Starter Kit has    71 files in   1849664 bytes 
 
 
Now for the file dates.  Please note that the handful of files dated 
before 1993 are programs such as Wildcat test drive, which simply has 
not been updated since then. The files were carefully hand picked. 
 
 
File stats for 1992 and 1993: 
 
92  File   %    Apx 'K'    %        93  File   %    Apx 'K'    % 
==  ==== =====  ======== =====      ==  ==== =====  ======== ===== 
       6  0.1%     2,380  0.4%         3,968 95.1%   558,536 91.6% 
    ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== ===== 
 
File stats for 1994: 
 
94  File   %    Apx 'K'    % 
==  ==== =====  ======== ===== 
     199  4.8%    49,669  8.0% 
    ==== =====  ======== ===== 
 
----  Total Files:  4,174    Total Approx 'K' Bytes:   609,523  ---- 
 
 
Well, these are the facts. It's a great disc, and you can preview it 
online the Computer Works BBS.  The file list is available for download 
as TOPDRWR.ZIP. We are accepting online orders using Visa/Mastercard & 
COD. 
 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 11733
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/08/94  5:33p
Subj: Top Drawer Released!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN>JL>                That's right a great ShareWare ROM 
  >JL>                            for $19.00 
 
RN>Jim, I am ready to order by mail.  Please send your mailing address and 
  >how much for shipping.  Thanks 
 
Hi Randy.  Top Drawer is $19 plus $4 S&H.  I'll send it via Priority 
Mail as soon as I get your order.  I appreciate your business. 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales 
Rt 3 Box 794-B 
Ashford, AL 36312 
 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 11734
  To: MIKE GERVASI                             Date: 02/08/94  1:46p
Subj: King's quest vi                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi!
 I just wanted to let you know I received the CD today(2/8). You should be
receiving your's shortly,let me know...

Thanks,

             Diana


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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 11735
  To: RON YOUNG                                Date: 02/08/94  1:47p
Subj: Ecstasy hot pic's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi!
 I just wanted to let you know I sent your CD out today(2/8) so you should be
receiving it shortly...

Thanks,

              Diana


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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 11736
  To: MIKE HADEN                               Date: 02/08/94  1:50p
Subj: Claw marks                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi!
 I wanted to let you know that I received the CD not too long ago,I'm having a
little problem with my echo's so I thought I'd better send another message
out.I need the manual "Claw Marks" so that I can get through the copywrite and
play the game<G>.
 Let me know when you send it out(your CD was sent out a few days ago,should be
getting to you soon).

Thanks,


                   Diana Kirksey
                   1624 Hwy.99 SP#79
                   Manteca,CA.  95336


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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 11737
  To: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                        Date: 02/08/94  9:23p
Subj: Trade\sell adult cd's                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Star Wars Chess: New Never Opened:   $27.00

I'd trade Storm II for the Star Wars Chess..If interested let me know,

                            Diana


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From: ROB MARREEL                            Number: 11738
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94  7:28p
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for a Cd-rom to be used on a bbs.... Any one out
there..............


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From: KERRY SPINDLER                         Number: 11739
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 02/08/94  8:02a
Subj: Comptons's Int Ency                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I  am interested in the Comptons, call me at 612-767-1003 eves or 612-780-9999
to make arangements.
Thanks,
Kerry Spindler

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From: DAVID SEBRING                          Number: 11740
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 02/08/94  8:48p
Subj: Storm CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Diana, 
Could you tell me a little about these?
I know they are Adult, but are they "Interesting"?
Im not looking for "Tame".


Dave

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From: DAVID SEBRING                          Number: 11741
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/08/94  8:48p
Subj: CD's For Sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 FOR SALE

                             THE 7TH GUEST CD
                                   DOS  

              INCLUDES THE VIDEO THE MAKING OF THE 7TH GUEST

              A VIRTUAL REALITY PHOTOREALISTIC HAUNTED HOUSE

                     state of the art puzzle solving 
                               on CD-ROM for DOS




---------------------------> Only $45.00 (includes shipping!)



David Sebring
voice 805-525-4649
Fax   805-525-6069

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From: DAVID SHORT                            Number: 11742
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 02/07/94  9:49p
Subj: yeah                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     You realize of course the author sells it for $29.  Why should I pay you a
dollar more without even asking about shipping?

Med Tech BBS  (804) 973-5639 14.4K 1+Gig Files, DOORs,  WME/Yankee Nets

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From: JAMES THORNE                           Number: 11743
  To: STEVE KRAISLER                           Date: 02/08/94  8:32a
Subj: WORLD AND US ATLAS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am still interested if the other party is not.  Let me know.
 
James Thorne

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From: RICARDO E MOSQUERA, MD                 Number: 11744
  To: JOHN COOK                                Date: 02/05/94  8:51a
Subj: Misc Discs for Trade\Sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

put my name in the Night Owl Cd

where is your mail box for send the
<grin>

RICARDO E MOSQUERA, MD
8581 NW 54TH ST
MIAMI FLORIDA  
 

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From: LIONEL QUIEL ALBA                      Number: 11745
  To: ANESTESIOLOGOS Y OTROS MEDICOS           Date: 02/05/94 10:11a
Subj: Venta de Laringoscopio.                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Estoy vendiendo un laringoscopio marca Colson-Heubs, hecho en Francia, con
tres hojas tipo Machintosh, usa baterias medianas, esta nuevo (nunca ha sido
usado), y es Welch-Allyn compatible.  Los interesados, por favor localizarme a
traves de Rapidphone: 63-8772
Atentamente,
                            Dr.Lionel Quiel

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 11746
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/09/94  7:32p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 Hitachi cd rom drives model 3600 (that's right model 3600) $99 each.
 Access time 350 ms.  Transfer rate 150 kb/s.  These EXCELLENT drives
 can be daisy-chained up to  8  on each propitiatory controller card.

 They can use the same controller cards that  are  used  with  the
 model 3500's.  If you don't  already  have  an  interface  card I
 have them NEW for $60.         I also have:
 Caddies                         $  5   each.
 External cases  for 4 drives    $ 20
 External cases  for 8 drives    $ 30
 Cables for 4 or 8 drives        $ 10
 Power supplies. (110/220)       $ 25
 Shipping   aprox.                       $    4      each   drive.

 30 day warranty.        All domestic orders are shipped    c.o.d.

 Total for an 8  drive  setup  assembled  in  case  with  p/s  and
 interface,  cables,  caddies,  ready  to  plug  in  and   play...
 including shipping c.o.d. (A $1,000 value)  ALL  for  only  $970

 4 drive setup as above....  A $560 value   special offer .....$530

 Call voice 205-824-2552  or "crash" netmail your order to 3625/441.
 Sorry...  routed  netmail  won't reach me since I get my  feed  via
 satellite.

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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 11747
  To: FRANKY WONG                              Date: 02/09/94  8:06p
Subj: Rebel Assault                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS>Rebel Assault CD - $40 shipped or best offer.
FW> You mean that you have RA for sale?  Please supply details.

Yes it's for sale. What other details do you need.
 
  SMRead 3.3  #?    
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From: LARRY FOX                              Number: 11748
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/08/94  7:56a
Subj: Descriptions for "Volcano"              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I thought I remembered someone saying that there were newer versions of
"Volcano" out that included text descriptions/files.bbs entries.  If so,
would anyone be willing to collect the description files together for me to
get ahold of? I have an older version sans descriptions.

Thanks!

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From: JOHN COOK                              Number: 11749
  To: AUDIE VICKERS                            Date: 02/09/94  9:08a
Subj: Re: TRADE WANTED                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 AV> I have Busty Babes 2.  Trade you for ARL.
 A deal! My "plain brown wrapper" address is:
 John H. Cook
 PO BOX 4801
 Greensboro, NC
 27404

 I'll be able to get yours in the mail upon receipt of
 your address. Thanks...Glad we can do a swap.
 (910)299-1848 voice
 (910)299-0954 BBS for message to SYSOP with address if you wish











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From: MICKEY LIGHTSEY                        Number: 11750
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 02/09/94  3:48p
Subj: Re: Pioner 18 disk change               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Regarding the price, it's not as bad as you think, when stop and add
-> up. If you were to purchase 18 new cdrom systems at $200. ec ( and th
-> be a bargin for a quad spin unit, you'd have well over $3,000. tied u
-> the units. Whereas the 18 disk unit is priced at $1895. it's a real b
-> when you're looking to save $$.
Hi, thanks for your info, and I must say your price is better than the
one I was sent from a large distributor, only one thing I'd like to
know, what kind of warranty does it carry? If I get one I'll have to
switch, I use IDE now and have never used SCII, and the $1859 is bare
bones I assume? I am very interested, do you have any catologs or
anything pertaining to setting one up, etc. When will you have more, my
Netmail address is  1:3654/9, I'd like to carry one one my BBS someday,
hope we can make this dream come true.


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From: HERB ZWIRN                             Number: 11751
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 02/09/94 10:44a
Subj: Hitachi 3600's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Thanx for the reply about the cards & cables---Herb........!
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From: FRANKY WONG                            Number: 11752
  To: SAM BECKWITH                             Date: 02/08/94 11:30p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dear SAM BECKWITH,


I am going to make the order to you VERY soon.  Pls take a moment to ver
the followings with me:


1       Please quote for (both OEM & retail price):

        7th Guest                        30* <- * means OEM
        Jones in the Fast Lane           17* <- reference prices from
        Kings Quest V                    17*    BRICE FLECKENSTEIN &
        King's Quest VI (Upgrade)        30     Precision Computers & El
        Loom                             17
        Mantis Experimental Fighter      16*
        Microsoft Bookshelf '93          38*
        National Geographic Mammals      23
        Where World Carmen Deluxe        23*

2       Please confirm me the following prices from your ad are correct:

        King's Quest VI                          26*
        Microsoft Bookshelf '94                  38*
        Rebel Assault                            32*
        Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe          19
        Space Quest IV                           16*
        Wrath of the Demon                       17*

3       Shipping & all misc charges included if prepaid?
        Pls quote shipping to "Guam 96911" if not.
        Accept AE?  If you accept AE, I may place a larger order.

4       Any discount (5%) over 5 CD?
        How about over $80?


Thanks.


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 11753
  To: LEW MURRAY                               Date: 02/09/94  7:00a
Subj: Night Owl version 11 !!!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Lew!

Tuesday February 08 1994 16:21, Lew Murray wrote to Dave Reed:

 DR>> What about Buggs Bunny?  I have a friend at Disney who was
 DR>> not amused.  Seems Night Owls has a BAD habit of including
 DR>> files on their discs that are going to get SYSOPS sued.
 DR>> Commercial software, viruses, copyrighted pictures...
 DR>> WHAT's NEXT???

 LM> Why should anyone at Disney care about a Bugs Bunny picture?  Bugs is a
 LM> Looney Toons & Merry Melodies character.  Not Disney.

Righto...  the industry apparently sticks together.  ;-)

Later,

Dave

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From: MARIO BONELLI                          Number: 11754
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 02/10/94 11:09a
Subj: Re: Review of Bodacious Beauties        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On This Day And Age [08-Feb-9416:56:00] Bob Jackson, (1:106/30) Bellowed:

Greetings Bob,

 BJ> Thanks for the kind words, Max. I'm glad that you (and I hope others)
 BJ> continue to find the reviews useful. A great deal of thanks and
 BJ> support goes to the producers who are willing to provide products for
 BJ> review. I certainly can't afford to buy every new CD just to try it
 BJ> out. Their willingness to help is what makes the reviews possible in
 BJ> the first place.

 BJ> Of course, each must ultimately make the decision to buy or not to
 BJ> buy. If my opinions about the CDs are useful to that end, pro or con,
 BJ> I'm pleased.

I appriciate them as well! I look forward to them when ever we get a
new packet of FIDO mail here on my system. Was there one on Beach Babes?
:) The important question, is it BBS ready with a FILES.BBS on each
directory?

Mario Bonelli - AMIGA_CDROM & CNET Moderator - FREQ US!
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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 11755
  To: JOHN VAN HARE                            Date: 02/09/94 10:05p
Subj: XXX Extreme                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

07 Feb 94 09:53, John Van Hare wrote to Roger Davis:

 JVH> All I have to trade right now is Amateur Models....I just purchased it
 JVH> from Scott about a week ago, it is in perfect shape but a little "tame".
 JVH> You can netmail me at 1:2225/1  or voice at 616-467-4197. Also I see you
 JVH> are quite active in hardware sales and trades, I am also a terminal
 JVH> hardware junkie, so if you have a list of things you are selling pass
 JVH> that along also.

Yeah, not what I'm looking for. Thanks anyway.

Roger

  3627 Manchaca #215  Austin, Texas 78704
  Internet: davis@cactus.org
  512-440-7670

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From: THE JACKAL                             Number: 11756
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/09/94  7:57p
Subj: Seventh Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the two CD set that comprises the game "The Seventh Guest".  comes
complete with mini manual, registration card, and box!
 
$40CDN takes 'er away.... ;-)

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From: WALTER PETROSKY                        Number: 11757
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/08/94  6:40p
Subj: Giga-Byte Gold CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone have any infomation on the "Giga-Byte Gold" cd-rom, looks
nice and it looks like a 2 cd set.

Walter

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From: LONNIE WILKERSON                       Number: 11758
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/08/94  3:23p
Subj: -=19$ROM=-                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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                         Triple Seven Media
                    Big Seven Media TopDrawer CD
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           That's right a great ShareWare ROM for $19.00

Big Sky Rom's newest release, TopDrawer, is now  shipping;  for  you
who  have pre ordered, it's on its way.  Yeah, I know.  What kind of
ROM am I getting for 19 bucks?  ANSWER..............

              Possibly the best ROM you have to date!

This ROM is published by  SysOps  for the SysOp.  Tired of compiling
list and heaven knows what else to get a ROM online?   This  is  the
answer   you  have  been  waiting  for,  affordable  files  at  this
introductory price, to show what TopDrawer is and can do.  Files.bbs
in every DIR, so simple  it  can  be  run  on a test drive of QMODEM
(tm).  Plus SPITFIRE (tm) files  SFFILES.BBS.   And  you  4DOS  (tm)
users will find descript.ion files.  If you're a PC-BOARD(tm) SysOp,
you'll  find  a  comprehensive SETMEUP.exe that will install the ROM
for you!   (...You  do  have  to  have  it  in  the  CD-ROM player!)
grin........  All archives are compressed using pkzip  (PKWARE  (tm)
204G using maximum compression.  All archives and their members have
been  scanned  with  the  latest  virus  scanners.   All  files have
file_id.diz's in them, GOOD ONE's, at that; we added over 1,859 full
descriptions when none  were  available  or  the author thought that
high ASCII looked better.  And on TOP of all that, we  have  made  a
great   effort  to  remove  commercial  files  and  other  copyright
infringements.  Now, what this means is  that we set this ROM up for
the BBS, not the end user!!!!  We have,  because  of  current  legal
cases  and  judgments  within the publishing community, removed VOC,
WAVE, and MIDI sound files.   The  real programs are still there; we
just deleted the lawyer syndrome.  All of the GIF's are our own,  no
copyright infringements to worry about.  You are licensed as the ROM
owner  to  distribute  them  to your users.  There is also a feature
authors DIR.   That's  the  authors  we  felt exhibited professional
demeanor in program ability and distribution ease.   Plus,  we  have
the  text  files  that are the latest rage -- that is, we have STEVE
ROBERTS stuff, NOT  Megabytes  of  FAQ's  or  other drivel.  We have
taken great pains to think of the user and the SysOp.  You will find
your users cruising through this easy file system and  praising  you
for  the  setup (that is, if you have great users like we do).  Both
the SuperMart BBS  and  PC-MONTANA  BBS  have handicapped users, and
thought went into the files  and  their  placement  to  enhance  the
interface  for  these  special  individuals.   Ok,  now to the brass
tacks: Files -- there are  4,174;that's 624 Mb + uncompressed.  Dirs
-- no, not 50 or 60, just 45 ; and this ROM will interface with  our
first release, BIG SKY 01, so you don't have to do a major setup all
over  again!  You've probably heard other SysOps saying that they're
removing such  and  such  ROM  offline  because  of  one  problem or
another.  We listen to these SysOps; you are our  bread  and  butter
(low  cost  spread  in this ROM's price).  Now, where can I get this
ROM?  Well, read the list and  you  can order this baby online or by
voice.

                       TRIPLE SEVEN MEDIA,ltd
          Data  1-817-561-4606 Head Hunter BBS      (24hr)
          Data  1-817-921-6106 Universal Connection (24hr)
          Data  1-817-649-1436 Babylon One BBS      (10pm 9am)
          Voice 1-817-246-0400 Lonnie Wilkerson     (8am 9pm)
          Voice 1-817-649-1436 John Mieske          (12pm 9pm)

                         THE SUPERMART BBS
                        Data  1-406-586-3774
                        Voice 1-406-586-8344

                           PC-MONTANA BBS
                        Data  1-406-284-3120

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From: GIB GILBERTSON                         Number: 11759
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 02/09/94  9:52p
Subj: Re: Review of Bodacious Beauties (1 of 3)  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I think your reviews are great. Keep up the good work Bob...
 
Now if I could just find someone that carries BB.
 
bye gib

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From: JOHN FRANCE                            Number: 11760
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/10/94  3:45p
Subj: comptons 1994 interactive               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ÿ@SUBJECT:comptons 1994 interactive cd                                N
I'm looking for the lowest price on comptons newest anyone got one they
want to sell or trade for.........John
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From: ROBIN HARDISON                         Number: 11761
  To: WARREN WILLIAMS                          Date: 02/06/94  8:44a
Subj: ANYWHERE NEAR CHATTANOOGA               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Warren Williams looked all around before speaking to All
 about ANYWHERE NEAR CHATTANOOGA

 WW>  I am trying to find out if this conference is carried by a BBS
 WW> anywhere in the Chattanooga, TN area.   I have a friend there who would
 WW> like to follow it.

 River Canyon Rd. BBS  615_886_2521.  Tell your friend to mention to Ron
 (sysop) I sent ya :)


ÄÄÄ¿
   ÀÄÄÄ> Robin

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From: DAVID BAKER                            Number: 11762
  To: JIMMY SOYSAL                             Date: 02/05/94  4:24a
Subj: bbs                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well, just leave a note to the Sysop from the main menu, and he can give you
more information.  I think there is also a bulletin under the Bulletin Door,
which explains the access levels.  If you join, you get more access.

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From: RUDY BORJON                            Number: 11763
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/05/94  3:20p
Subj: Ham radio cd..                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Looking for a strictly Ham Radio oriented cd's...new of course...

Any info on this please, thanks...
===
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From: STEVE KRAISLER                         Number: 11764
  To: JAMES THORNE                             Date: 02/06/94 10:45a
Subj: WORLD AND US ATLAS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have received an offer before yours and I gave him until 2/10 to respond.  If
you are still interested let me know real soon.

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From: HANS FELSH                             Number: 11765
  To: STEVE PHILLIPS                           Date: 02/06/94 10:00a
Subj: Re: CD ROM FOR SALE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Steve Phillips to All <=-

 SP>
 SP> Mitsumi CRMC-LU002S Single Speed Internal CD ROM
 SP> 150 kb/sec sustained data transfer rate
 SP>
 SP> includes interface card, cables and user manual.

 anyone can get a single-speed new in computer shopper for $179...I will offer
 $70+shipping. see tagline for phone number/address if acceptable.

... Hans W. Felsh - 536 Paula Dr. Clarksville, TN 37042 - (615) 647-8544
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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 11766
  To: THOMAS MENG                              Date: 02/06/94 11:10a
Subj: CD'S 4-Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

04 Feb 94 02:05, Thomas Meng wrote to All:

 TM>   I have 2 adult CD'S for sale.
 TM>   Busty Babes 1  Vol 1
 TM>   Best offer...
 TM>   Busty Babes II
 TM>   $20.00

Will offer $18 shipped for BB II.

512-440-7670



Roger

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From: LOUIS DIGGS                            Number: 11767
  To: BRIAN KELLER                             Date: 02/05/94  9:57p
Subj: GAMES FOR SALE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for the reply, Brian. 
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From: ALAN BRADSHAW                          Number: 11768
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/05/94 11:24p
Subj: Wanted - Hacker CD Roms                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for CD Roms that have Hacker/UFO/Occult/Weapons
type files, perferably BBS ready. I already have Hacker Chronicals and
Forbidden Subjects. I'm told that there are others....
If you know of any, post me the details, Title, source, etc.
Thanks,
Alan Bradshaw
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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 11769
  To: LLOYD NICKENS                            Date: 02/06/94  5:50a
Subj: OS/2 2.1 CD-ROM Edition                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (25 Jan 94) Lloyd Nickens wrote to Blake Barr...

 LN> Wow Back east you can pick up TWO copies for that price. It cost $36
 LN> bucks at 
 LN> Egghead Software.

Open mouth, insert foot.

He is selling OS/2 2.1 on CD-ROM.  That does not cost $36 at Egghead software.
It costs more like $100-$120.  You are referring to OS/2 for Windows on
CD-ROM which is very different.  OS/2 for Windows does not include DOS or
Windows support in the package.  You must have DOS/Windows installed on your
computer prior to installing OS/2 for Windows.



... If FORMAT C: /X/S does not work....try installing Chicago..............

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From: BILL WOOD                              Number: 11770
  To: CHENEY CHEN                              Date: 01/30/94 10:39p
Subj: Re: MAIL                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Cheney Chen to All <=- 
 
 CC> HI! EVERYBODY, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW TO USE EMAIL AND INTERNET 
 CC> MAIL. CAN SOMEBODY TEACH ME HOW TO USE THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH 
 
Well you are using E-MAIL right now, and to use internet, you have 
to call a BBS that has internet access. Bill 
 
 
... Catch the Blue Wave! 
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From: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN                      Number: 11771
  To: TOM COTTON                               Date: 02/05/94  5:15p
Subj: Genealogy CD's Wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > friend had and it was great.  If you would like the
 > phone number for GRS
 > I will post it for you next week. TC in TXK.

I'm not Gary, but I would like to get the phone number.

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From: SAM BECKWITH                           Number: 11772
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94 12:00p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DFW Discount Electronics   CD-ROM Price List  Orders: 800-829-0331
     02/06/94               BBS: 214-259-4188  Local : 214-254-0331

  View complete price list or place orders while online at 
  214-259-4188

*Business*            
Britannica Select Software.................................  $19.00
Business Assistant.........................................  $14.00
Business Master 3rd Edition 10/93..........................  $18.00
Marketing Master (DOS-OEM).................................  $15.00

*Children*            
Aesop's Fables (Win-Boxed).................................  $25.00
Aladdin and his Wonderful Lamp.............................  $34.00
Arthur's Teacher Trouble (Win-OEM).........................  $25.00
Barney Bear Goes to School.................................  $15.00
Barney Bear Goes to Space..................................  $15.00
Beauty & the Beast.........................................  $21.00
Interactive Storytime Volume 1.............................  $18.00
Interactive Storytime Volume 2.............................  $18.00
Interactive Storytime Volume 3.............................  $18.00
Just Grandma and Me (Win-OEM)..............................  $28.00
McMillan Dictionary for Children (OEM).....................  $23.00
Mixed Up Mother Goose......................................  $17.00
Peter and the Wolf (OEM)...................................  $17.00
Putt Putt Joins the Parade (OEM)...........................  $24.00
Sleeping Beauty............................................  $17.00
White Horse Child (OEM)....................................  $19.00

*Graphic/Clipart*     
Clipart Galore - All American Series Volume 2..............  $19.00
Clipart Heaven.............................................  $16.00
Clipart Warehouse 10/93....................................  $14.00
Color Magic Clipart........................................  $19.00
Corel Draw 3.0 (OEM).......................................  $49.00
Desktop Publishers Dream Disk..............................  $26.00
Font Funhouse (OEM)........................................  $18.00
Fontmaster II..............................................  $17.00
GIFs Galore 9/93...........................................  $19.00
Jets and Props (OEM).......................................  $19.00
Kodak Photo CD Access Software (Win).......................  $15.00
LaserSoft Banners (Win-Boxed)..............................  $25.00
Money, Money, Money!.......................................  $19.00
Mother of All Clipart......................................  $15.00
Publisher's Paradise.......................................  $21.00
Publisher's Powerhouse 9/93................................  $16.00
Too Many Typefonts.........................................  $14.00
WorldView..................................................  $15.00

*Reference*           
Aircraft Encyclopedia......................................  $27.00
Complete Bookshop..........................................  $14.00
Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia 1994 (Win-OEM)..........  $68.00
Dictionaries and Languages.................................  $14.00
Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia 6.0  1994 (Windows)........  $38.00
Languages of the World.....................................  $21.00
Movie Select (Boxed).......................................  $38.00
MS Bookshelf 93 for Windows (OEM)..........................  $38.00
ProPhone National Edition 4th Quarter 1993 (7 disc set)....  $69.00
Star Trek Collectibles (Win)...............................  $41.00
USA Wars: Civil War........................................  $25.00
USA Wars: Korea............................................  $25.00
USA Wars: Vietnam..........................................  $25.00
USA Wars: World War II.....................................  $25.00

*Religion*            
Bible Library..............................................  $25.00
Holy Bible CD-ROM..........................................  $17.00
King James Bible (Boxed)...................................  $23.00
New Family Bible...........................................  $39.00

*Travel/Maps*         
Adventures (Win-OEM).......................................  $22.00
Oceans Below (Win-OEM).....................................  $19.00
Precision Mapping (Boxed)..................................  $68.00
US Atlas 4.0 (OEM).........................................  $19.00
World Atlas (Win) with Mario is Missing....................  $20.00
World Atlas 4.0 (Win-OEM)..................................  $19.00

 Call me for a complete price list.  Thanks, Sam

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From: THE QUE                                Number: 11773
  To: MALIBU                                   Date: 02/06/94  2:21p
Subj: New User Message                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Maliabu what up i hope i get validated

- the que -

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From: JAMES PARMER                           Number: 11774
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/05/94 12:56a
Subj: Price List                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 F                           CD-ROM Price List       updated 02/04/94
        * LTL Products * 1902 Bartley Road * LaGrange, Ga 30240 * 
                           Voice (706)884-2352

 9000 Sounds                    20  MacMillian Dict. Children OEM    18
 Airbrush Profolio              31  Mayo Clinic (OEM)                21
 American Vista Atlas           26  Mega Media #1                    18 
 Am. Bus. Phone Dir. W/zip      25  Mega Media #2                    18
 America's Premier Shareware    14  Microsoft Bookshelf 93 MPC OEM   38 
 Amsoft (ham radio sh'ware)     25  Mixed Up Mother Goose (OEM)      17
 Animals-zoo (MPC) (OEM)        19  Monster Media 93 #3              23
 Art Appeal- Business           23  Multimedia Animals Ency. MPC     24
 Art Appeal-Educ & Leisure      23  Nature Graphics                  17
 Art Appeal-Gov & Industry      23  Night OWL 11                     27
 Arthurs Teacher Trouble-MPC    22  Night Owl Games                  19
 A.S.P. (Sh'ware prof. assoc.)  19  Night Owl Graphics               24
 Bibles & Religion              12  OS/2 Box                         20  
 Cd Powerbox #2                 18  Our Solar System                 12
 Classic Cars                   23  P.C. Sig 13                      17
 Computer Reference Library     12  Pier 3                           26
 ColorMagic PC/MAC              24  Places to Play                   27
 Color Magic OEM                21  Precision Mapping                61
 Cookbook U.S.A. Jr.            18  Profone 93 (7 disc set)          76
 Dagger of Amon (OEM)           23  Publish It 2.0                   23
 Dare, Bluff or Die             25  Publisher's Dream Disk           26
 Dictionaries & Languages       12  Publisher's Paradise             20
 Dinosaur Adventure OEM         19  Publisher's Paradise Pro         32 
 Dr. Games  #2                  15  Publisher's Backgrounds          30
 Dr. Music  #2                  15  Publisher's Platinum             17
 Dr. Windows #2                 15  Resource Library-Audio           14
 Eco-Quest  (OEM)               23  Resource Library-Graphics        14
 Ency. of Sound                 12  Resource Library-Multimedia      14
 Fantazia Fonts                 24  Sci-Fi Games & Trivia            21
 Fingers for Windows OEM        23  Seventh Quest OEM                34
 Fingers for Windows            36  Shareware 93 vol-2               20 
 Flowering Plants               23  Shareware  Explorer (4 disc)     37 
 Games 93                       24  Shareware Overload Trio          20
 Games Platinum                 15  Shareware Studio #3              15
 Gardening                      12  So Much  Shareware 93            23
 Grolier's Ency.  ver6 MPC OEM  38  Software Jukebox                 20
 Hacker Chronicles              27  Software Vault 3 (gold)          18
 Ham Radio 3.0                  12  Space Adventure OEM              19
 Home & Office Legal Guide      12  Space  Shuttle OEM               22
 House  of Games #2             16  Straight From Heaven             18
 Icons/Wallpaper & More         25  Tech Arsenel                     20
 Kodak Photo CD                 16  Too  Many Typefonts              12
 Kodak Photo CD w/Processing    29  Unix                             22
 Lan Master                     21  U.S. History OEM                 25
 Landscapes                     23  U.S. / World Atlas OEM           18
 Language Discovery             22  Window Master                    19
 Languages of the World OEM     21  Windoware                        12
 Learning Heaven                18  Win Platinum                     17
 Learning Lotus 1-2-3           21  Windows 93                       21
 Learning Windows 3.1           21  World Atlas 4.0 OEM              18
 Ledgend of Kyrandia (OEM)      23  
                                    
 SPECIALS-Just Grandma & Me     27
          Windows Collection    20
          Shareware 94          21
 
 Caddies 4.75 Qty. discounts available
 We accept cashier, company, personal checks, money orders
 Shipping $4 up to 5 CD's, .50 each additional - COD add $5
 Cannot accept credit cards at this time
 Allow 7 days for checks to clear. Prices are U.S. funds 
 Request catalog with complete description
 Adult titles available - Send a copy of photo I. D. along with request
 
 ... LTL Products (706)884-2352          
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From: CHARLES BARTLETT                       Number: 11775
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/05/94  5:55p
Subj: AMATEUR RADIO CATALOGS                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF> Not available, to my knowlage - but if you hear about such a ROM befor
BF>PLEASE let me know!

BF> KF9FM


Just wanted to let you know I got your response. Will be on the lookout.



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From: CHUCK DAVIS                            Number: 11776
  To: CLINT SAVAGE                             Date: 02/06/94  3:28a
Subj: RANDOM HOUSE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


ncRE: hRANDOM HOUSE
ncBY: hClint Savage ncon hThu Feb 03 1994 07:41 amn

Clint,
     I've seen it in the bookstore (Dubeys, I think).  The package was $100. 
It included both the CD and the dictionary.  
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From: VINSON NICHOLS                         Number: 11777
  To: DAVID MANZ                               Date: 02/05/94  1:45p
Subj: Continuation                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello David!

31 Jan 94, David Manz writes to All:

 DM> Hacker Chronicles..........................$30.00

   Whats the date on this on?

Vinson

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From: VINSON NICHOLS                         Number: 11778
  To: DAVID MANZ                               Date: 02/05/94  1:51p
Subj: Continuation                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello David!

31 Jan 94, David Manz writes to All:

 DM> Linux Operating System.....................$41.00

  What version is this. Slackware? Dec 93? If so I'll take one
Vinson

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From: GLYNN LITTLETON                        Number: 11779
  To: GLYNN LITTLETON                          Date: 02/06/94  4:28p
Subj: test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* Written in: NETMAIL
FMPT 7
MSGID: 1:3628/7.7 e1bfc7c9
PID: TerMail 1.4 PROFESSIONAL

Hi Glynn Littleton, how are you

testing

ÄÄÄ¿
   ÀÄÄÄ> Greetings from @You

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From: DAVID MANZ                             Number: 11780
  To: CHIP SLATE                               Date: 02/05/94  5:32a
Subj: Re: Compleate List Of Cd'               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

--> David Manz Quotes a message written by Chip Slate
--> to David Manz on 21:18 02-02-94 saying:
CS> Hey can you send these by mail?(USPS)
CS> my address:Chip Slate
CS>            P.O. Box 96
CS>            Claudville,VA 24076
CS> 
CS> 
Chip,
  It will be on its way shortly.
         
                David 
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From: BRYANT PARK                            Number: 11781
  To: ANTHONY ROBERTS                          Date: 02/05/94 11:02a
Subj: Cd Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a Mitsumi with controller I would let go for $125. It's it
perfect condition. If interested leave message to call Bryant at
615-662-9073. Thanks.

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From: BRYANT PARK                            Number: 11782
  To: DUSTY JAMES                              Date: 02/05/94  6:39p
Subj: Cd Disk Drive?                          Refer: NONE
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I have a single speed Mitsumi cd-rom drive for sale. $125 includes the
drive and the at-interface. I'll ship it free if pre-paid. It's in
perfect working order. I also have '91 MPC MS Bookshelf and Mayo Clinic
cds if you are interested. $25 for Bookshelf and $20 for Mayo. If any of
the items interest you leave message.

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From: KAWAI WONG                             Number: 11783
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 02/05/94  9:53p
Subj: Low Cost Cd's                           Refer: NONE
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-> OS/2 Companion        - 470+ megs - 2,400+ files - BBS Ready - Loaded with
->                    graphics, multimedia, networking, fonts and more !
->               Price - $16.00 ec + Free Diagnostic cd offer

        What other OS/2 titles (besides this and Hobbs OS/2) do you with ALOT
of shareware in it?!

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From: SAM GOH                                Number: 11784
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  5:04p
Subj: CD's for trade sale....                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone intrested in the following?
-Compton's MM encyclopedia
-Lotus 123 for Windows
-Macromind Action
-Wing Commander 2 deluxe
All CD's...  Will consider all offers....

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From: STEVE KRAISLER                         Number: 11785
  To: JAMES THORNE                             Date: 02/06/94  5:34p
Subj: World And Us Atlas                      Refer: NONE
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SK>time video "flybys"  I'll sell both for 30 bucks or 17 each.  You pa
SK>shipping.
SK>
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SK>

JT>I'll take both of them.  Send them COD for $37.50 to:

JT>James Thorne
JT>9306 Charterlawn
JT>Houston, TX 77070

JT>Please send me a confirmation here.  Also send them US mail not UPS 
JT>please.

JT>THANKS!


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Someone, before you wrote, offered to buy them.  I gave him until the 2/ 10 
to respond with a check.  If he does not I will sell it to you.  Let me 
know if you are still interested.  I will net mail my address to you if you 
are.

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From: MARC CHIARELLO                         Number: 11786
  To: BRYAN COPELAND                           Date: 02/04/94  2:30p
Subj: Looking for                             Refer: NONE
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þ In a message to All on 01-25-94, Bryan Copeland declared:
BC > I am looking for a good priced CD-ROM Drive for my BBS
BC > system comig out this summer, if anyone knows anything
BC > please write back...

BC > --- FMail 0.96â
BC >  * Origin: The General Store BBS Node 1 (1:3807/100)
I have a Mitsumi LU-005s 348ms @152k?sec for $125 and I'll pay 
shipping.  Has 16 bit interface and drivers.
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11787
  To: CHARLES STRUSZ @ 970/201                 Date: 02/04/94 12:42a
Subj: Non dos cd's for dos mach               Refer: NONE
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CS@9:>to put some MAC and AMIGA files online for my BBS users.

CS@9:>Can anyone suggest a couple of titles that I can shovel into my DOS clone
CS@9:>server and let the users drain files off of?

We sell the Otherware CD-ROM's, which have approx. 300mb of Mac, and 300mb
of Amiga shareware.  Will work on a DOS-based BBS if you can put up with
the somewhat abbreviated FILES.BBS listings.  Price is $22 if you're
interested.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11788
  To: DOUG MCCLELLAN                           Date: 02/04/94 12:42a
Subj: backorders                              Refer: NONE
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DM:>Mike; I'm awaiting word on a disk I've had on backorder for two months
DM:>now - Seedy rom 7th heaven. Can you fill me in on whether you will be
DM:>able to ship this to me or not? Can you send me a new listing so I can
DM:>order an alternate? Either way, I'd appreciate a reply.  -Doug

Yes, sorry Doug.  They have been out of production for some time, and we do
not stock them.  Look for our adult CD price list in this packet for a
complete listing of all the titles we carry.  Feel free to pick an
alternate, or if you wish I can refund your money.

Later,
.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11789
  To: T. CURTIS                                Date: 02/04/94 12:42a
Subj: NEW LOWER CD PRICES! pt 1               Refer: NONE
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TC:> MS> 7th Guest OEM (In stock!).....39.00

TC:>     What is different between this and the original 7th Guest?
TC:>  Thanks!

The main difference is an abbreviated manual, and no videotape.  Price has
also changed to $37.90.  Give me a call if you're interested.  We also
stock the boxed version w/ videotape at $48.80.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11790
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/04/94  1:00a
Subj: ADULT CD-ROM PRICE$                     Refer: NONE
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 **************************************************************************
 February 1994        SOFTCORE ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST    Last update: 2/03
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
 Amateur Models................25.00    High Volume Nudes.............31.40
 American Girls (New!).........31.40    L.A. Strippers (Movie)........39.50
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......29.00    Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......29.80
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......48.00    Photo Gallery.................34.60
 Digital Dreams 1..............25.30    Seymore Butts Interactive.....49.10
 Digital Dreams 2 (New!).......25.30    Southern Beauties.............26.60
 Giffy Gold....................28.60    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....25.00
 Girls of Mardi Gras (New!)....39.50    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....21.70

                 - Prices subject to change without notice -
    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 ORDERS...............509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 FAX/INFO/ORDERS......509-457-2966..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 400+ titles & descriptions

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From: LEE NICHOLS                            Number: 11791
  To: LAWRENCE MINTZ                           Date: 02/05/94  4:59p
Subj: Pirate Cds                              Refer: NONE
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{snip}
 > Sorry for my short course in capitalism, but your
 > tirade about high prices in computer software really
 > ticked me off.
I appreciate your feelings in this matter but how does this explain Mr. Bill
Gates being one of the ten richest men in the world?

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 11792
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/05/94  7:34p
Subj: Review of Bodacious Beaut               Refer: NONE
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                            BODACIOUS BEAUTIES (1/3)
                            ========================

     My sincere thanks to Blaine Richards and Dave Van Gelder of Graphical
     Images of Florida (GIOF) for providing a copy of their latest adult CD
     release "Bodacious Beauties" (B_BEAUTS) for review.  This text is also
     available for download (713-589-2690 to 14.4) or FREQing (Node ID:
     1:106/30) from The Hard Disc Cafe BBS in Houston, TX. A guest login ID
     of CD REVIEW or CD_REVIEW will get you download privileges for the
     ZIPped file "B_BEAUTS.ZIP" (all three parts).

     This review contains four major sections: Synopsis - a summarization
     of my findings plus any miscellaneous comments that didn't seem to fit
     in any other section; Statistics - some quantitative characteristics
     about the CD; Operations - a more qualitative analysis of the
     usability aspects of the CD which tries to consider factors of
     interest to both the sysop and the personal user; and Visual - a
     purely qualitative opinion of the intrinsic qualities of the images
     themselves.

     To those of you whom have read some of my previous reviews, you will
     be in familiar territory with this one as well. If you're a first-time
     reader, please understand that I DO NOT claim to be an expert on the
     topic of erotica. Accordingly, the contents of this review reflect
     only my personal opinion about the product. I try hard to be fair and
     objective, but it's always possible - maybe even probable - that my
     own tastes and biases will color my remarks. With that out of the
     way... let's go!

     Synopsis
     ========

     To those of you who have waited for a new CD with images of beautiful
     women sporting more than ample mammalia, your wait is over. To say
     that the vast majority of the models on B_BEAUTS are very
     heavy-chested is something of an understatement to say the least.
     B_BEAUTS is true to its title in every respect. The ladies are both
     "bodacious" and "beautiful" - given that both terms are admittedly
     subject to personal interpretation. In any event, it's difficult to
     imagine that any fan of erotica could fail to find at least some
     pleasing images on this CD.

     GIOF has added a graphical user interface (GUI) to their product this
     time around that is very intuitive and, in the main, functions very
     well. More about it in the Operations section.

     Production values of this CD are top-notch. The cover art is very
     attractive - the ladies pictured therein are indeed on the CD itself.
     The covers are complete with installation instructions, registration
     requirements, and a general description of the CD's contents. In
     addition, GIOF has provided a printed form to make registration by
     sysop or end-user a simple process. If there is any criticism to be
     made (by me anyway) it would be that the CD is promoted on the front
     cover as being "X Rated". Personally, I think this is AMPLE
     indication of what a potential purchaser can expect to find in the
     CD's imagery. If one wanted to split hairs (so to speak) and go
     with perhaps a more precise classification, B_BEAUTS is at least XX
     and, in two cases (BBMF0315.GIF & BBMF1219.GIF), skates very close
     to XXX. Nonetheless, all in all, full marks to GIOF for production
     values.

     The images in B_BEAUTS are LARGE. Most are full-screen or very nearly
     so. ALL are full screen in at least the vertical dimension. There's no
     reason that scans cannot make use of all the electronic real estate
     available. To me, to leave  a half or more of the screen blank with a
     small image size is unforgivable. Thanks to GIOF for raising the
     standard and showing that it can be done even from 35mm source slides
     which have, by their nature, a different aspect ratio than the display
     screens of today.

     Bottom Line -  This is a better CD than Southern Beauties, and that's
     saying something! My recommendation, FWIW, is that this product is
     well worth adding to your personal collection.


     Statistics
     ==========

     The back cover of B_BEAUTS claims "over 2000" images of "85 top
     models" and "over 650 megabytes" of "1024x768x256" GIFs. I found 2025
     individual GIFs (i.e. not counting "thumbnail" images") and 630+
     megabytes of used CD real estate (for imagery). For the record, I did
     try to verify that 85 different ladies had done the modeling. I did
     this by counting the unique names that were used in the FILES.BBS
     files. The count I got was 89. One thing's for certain, there's no
     shortage of beautiful bodies to ogle over on this CD!  Moreover, this
     CD is full of fresh faces, few that I recall ever having seen before,
     but all of which I would LOVE to see again! Those that were familiar
     (see below) were more than welcome back to my peepers:

     Adult Movie Actresses: Angela Summers, Jasmine, Madison, Persia, Tammy
     Monroe, Taylor Wayne (a.k.a. Taylor Wane & Farren Heights - a
     beautiful  English import), Trinity Loren, and Keisha.

     Others previously seen: Busty Belle, Kimberly Kupps, and Wendy
     Whoppers, and Patty Plenty.

     That's only twelve names so, for me, there were 77 new, uh, faces for
     me to meet and greet! Even accounting for rather picky personal
     preferences, there was no shortage of jaw-dropping beauties on this
     CD. I think most users will feel the same way.

     The CD is logically divided in to 9 different image directories and
     two program directories. The nine image directories are named
     "BBGIRLSn" where "n" is 1 to 9. The "ILLUSION" program directory
     contains the GUI software and the "VPIC" directory contains the image
     viewer VPIC which is included but not required for GUI use (i.e. you
     can substitute the GIF viewer of your choice if you so desire). The
     2000+ images are pretty evenly spread over the nine directories -
     if that matters.

     Interestingly enough, in use the GUI logically divides the CD into 46
     "virtual" directories with the added value of providing topical
     groupings.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 11793
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/05/94  7:32p
Subj: Review of Bodacious Beaut               Refer: NONE
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                            BODACIOUS BEAUTIES (2/3)
                            ========================

     Operations - Sysop
     ==================

     The directories of B_BEAUTS do have FILES.BBS files in them but the
     descriptions therein are not uniquely tailored to each image. Rather,
     GIOF has chosen to use the descriptions to simply name the model(s) in
     each image. At first, this would seem to be a near useless thing to
     do. However, considering that the CD also has a complete collection of
     "thumbnail" image files on it, a FILES.BBS file would seem to lose its
     importance. Being an end-user, I would much prefer to download one
     "thumbnail catalog" file with 50+ images that I could preview and then
     select from rather than trust the notoriously hyped-up text
     descriptions in a typical FILES.BBS file. If I were a sysop, which I'm
     not, I would proudly point my users to the "catalog" files first and
     save everyone involved connect time and potential disappointment.

     Regular readers of this echo will recall that GIOF asked for opinions
     about the "per node" licensing fee idea. While it's certainly not my
     place to pass judgment on the idea (not being a sysop) nor even on the
     debate itself, it will suffice here to say simply that GIOF has
     elected to retain the requirement for "per node" licensing with a
     graduated schedule of fees. That schedule is repeated here for
     informational purposes:

                        First node      - $25.00
                        Next 5 nodes    - $15.00 each
                        Next 10 nodes   - $12.00 each
                        All add'l nodes - $10.00 each

     Registration forms are available for printing from the CD and a one
     form is included in the packaging.

     Operations - End User
     =====================

     ALL of B_BEAUTS's scans are 1024x768x256. If you don't have a video
     board with at least 1 Mb of RAM, you're going to have to pan around
     images displayed at a lower resolution by your GIF viewer. While this
     is workable, it will ultimately diminish your viewing pleasure and
     become tiresome rather quickly. Given that 1 Mb boards are fairly
     inexpensive these days, and further that display resolutions are
     getting higher every few months, it would behoove anyone still limited
     to 800x600 or less to make the switch. GIOF offers pointers in this
     regard during installation.

     As mentioned earlier, GIOF has included a GUI with this product. It's
     called "ILLUSION" and is, all things considered, very slick.  ILLUSION
     takes advantage of the included "thumbnail catalogs" to provide a
     point-and-click interface for the end-user IRRESPECTIVE OF THE GIF
     VIEWER USED! It's worth noting however that VPIC is particularly
     well-suited to this interface by virtue of its ability to display
     an image and then automatically terminate itself leaving the image
     on the screen. Other viewers MAY require additional user actions to
     either display a selected image or to terminate and return to
     ILLUSION.

     Additionally, ILLUSION, like SHOWOFF! which was bundled with the last
     two releases of the "Busty Babes" CDs, provides real-time
     identification of the image currently being pointed to. It also has a
     very nice multiple directory slide show capability, and instant,
     non-destructive access to the setup routines. Navigation across the 46
     "virtual" directories is a breeze. There's even a reminder at the
     bottom of the screen telling you what virtual directory you're
     presently logged to. If there could be an improvement in the directory
     management department, I'd ask that the ILLUSION keep its place in the
     directory list from the last access and not revert to the beginning of
     the list as it does now. A "cute" feature is that the mouse pointer is
     a sprite of the T.I.T.S. BBS's "Leaning Lady" logo when the pointer is
     over the thumbnail image area.

     Point-and-click is fast and slide shows are a pleasure to set up and
     watch. Scans are displayed in the order selected - even across
     directories. It should be noted that one has to be aggressive in
     tweaking the setup for the mouse response. I had to set the mouse
     button delay to 1500 (I have a 486-66) to get reliable "tagging" for
     slide shows. The default value is like 200. I'm not sure what this
     figure represents, but it is apparently some sort of timing delay that
     ILLUSION uses when reading the mouse buttons.  Three other minor
     observations here are (a) I'd encourage ILLUSIONs authors to cache the
     last viewed thumbnail image so it can be restored after a single-image
     display more quickly. Granted, my single-speed CD drive is slow by
     today's standards but there are other options besides re-reading the
     image from the CD every time. Given that ILLUSION gobbles up about 6.5
     Mb of HDD space during installation where it cautions its need for
     even more space for scratch files, I expected better performance; (b)
     Slideshows are one-pass only. It would seem a simple matter to allow
     continuous shows; and (c) When selecting across multiple directories,
     it would be preferable, IMHO, to have the slideshow terminate with in
     the directory of the first selected scan instead of the last selected
     scan as it does now. Understand, these are MINOR items - not show
     stoppers.

     Those items aside, the combination of ILLUSION and VPIC make a
     powerful, easily learned GUI for B_BEAUTS. In the category of "other
     things I'd liked to have seen included" are basic image manipulation
     capabilities like zoom and rotate, and a print capability. Of course,
     one could always switch to a standalone viewer with these
     capabilities, but the would have been nice to have "online".

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 11794
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/05/94  7:33p
Subj: Review of Bodacious Beaut               Refer: NONE
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                            BODACIOUS BEAUTIES (3/3)
                            ========================

     Visual
     ======

     B_BEAUTS's images run the gamut from non-nudes to XX (e.g. legs
     akimbo) and even a couple of near-XXX, depending on one's
     interpretation. That said, everyone should understand that this isn't
     a CD for the swimsuit or lingerie fan. Even when the first few scans
     of a given model are not nudes, her clothes quickly come off as the
     sequence proceeds and the poses get hotter. The CD's title
     notwithstanding, there's plenty of pink displayed along the walk down
     mammary lane. There's plenty of scans of both overt and implied
     sapphic and hetero sex and oral activities. In sum, this is a not a CD
     for the faint of heart!

     In my opinion, with very few exceptions driven by subjective personal
     tastes, the ladies of B_BEAUTS's are GORGEOUS! They're professionally
     made-up with elegant props and captured by generally professional-
     quality photography. This is a knock-your-eyes-out CD for sure. While
     the vast majority of the scans are studio shots, there are some
     alfresco scans as well. If you liked GIOF's earlier release "Southern
     Beauties", you're going to love B_BEAUTS!

     In my review of Southern Beauties, I criticized its complement of
     images for "sameness" - the paradigm of including two or more very
     similar images in a collection. GIOF must have been listening because
     B_BEAUTS's collection is greatly improved in this regard. I never got
     bored looking at the scans in B_BEAUTS.

     The most noticeable "I-wish-it-were-different" aspect of B_BEAUTS that
     I found was that many of the scans are "soft focus" - some to the
     point of looking out of focus. Two extreme examples of this are
     BBGP0404 and -0505 in the BBGIRLS2 directory. Curiously, -0504 appears
     to be sharper, and -0506 looks sharper still. In the BBGIRLS3
     directory, MOUNDS14 and TEEZE03 are some of the sharper looking scans.

     It's my belief that this "softness" is a product of the scanning
     process rather than out of focus source slides (B_BEAUTS is produced
     from 35mm slides - so says the back cover). The photos on the front,
     inside front, and rear covers of the jewel case are (in order) to be
     found as STORM000, KELLY00, and DIXIE00 in the BBGIRLS9 directory.
     (Sorry to spoil the fun of those who'd have preferred to search for
     them.) Checking the scans against the photos, it's easily seen that
     the photos are sharper looking and have better color balance than the
     scanned images, even taking into account the rather poor resolution of
     most computer display monitors. In my opinion, either greater care in
     scanning or different scanning equipment or both need to be considered
     for future products.

     Like Southern Beauties, B_BEAUTS has a few scans that have portions of
     the images "washed out" by too much light. Also, the "multiple
     catchlight" syndrome is still apparent. In fact, if one studies the
     (usually) two catchlights in the models' eyes, one can see that the
     camera has been placed between two equal light sources. This results
     in a very "flat" kind of light that does little to model the contours
     of the subject and can lead to the "washed out" syndrome if not
     carefully controlled.

     Some miscellaneous notes regarding the scans are as follows:

     Some of the ladies are "flexible" enough to qualify as contortionists.
     Prime examples of this can be found in DIXIE33, TEEZE39, DREAM01, and
     to somewhat lesser extents in HONEY17 and ANGELA15 and -16.

     In the BBGRLS21 virtual directory, there are 14 scans titled "VULVAn"
     where "n" is 1-14. These are what is known in the trade as "monster
     shots" - that is to say fairly close-up shots of that region of the
     female anatomy. Depending on your preferences, you may want to avoid
     (or race to) that part of the CD.

     Each scan has a copyright notice at its very bottom edge. This is a
     non-obtrusive text addition that is barely noticeable once one gets
     used to it.

     There are nine virtual directories that are dedicated to individual
     models, whereas the BBGRLSn virtual directories are a mixture of
     models. In effect, these individual virtual directories showcase their
     lady in a very nice way. They are as follows:

         Virtual        Model's             My
         Directory      Name                Comments
         ---------      -------             --------

         CANDY          Candy Cantelopes    At least!
         DIXIE          Dixie Bubbles       Cover Girl - Wow!
         HEATHER        Heather Hooters     A banana split with a twist!
         KELLY1 & -2    Dakota Kelly        Cover girl - Oh, lordy!
         PARIS          Chrissy Paris       Very Classy!
         STORM1 & -2    Crystal Storm       Cover girl - Big doesn't even
                                            BEGIN to describe...
         WENDY          Wendy Whoppers      And they are.


     Finally, some of the models appear in more than one virtual directory.
     For example, Bodacious Babbett (a face like Cindy Crawford's and a
     chest like you dream of) appears in BBGRLS5 by herself and also in
     BBLEZ2 with Ash Leigh). Using the multiple-directory slideshow
     capability of ILLUSION, I found it fun to "play" an intermix scans of
     Ms. Babbett from the two directories. There are several more such
     examples that users may find fun exploring such opportunities.

     B_BEAUTS is an unqualified winner IMHO. If licensed collections are
     here to stay, and in-the-know sources say they are, then this CD is
     showing, and leading the way.

... Annoy the Fundamentalists - think for yourself!
--- Blue Wave/RA v2.10
 * Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 |  (1:106/30)
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From: LEW MURRAY                             Number: 11795
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  8:55p
Subj: Mitsumi Upgrade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a brand new double spin Mitsumi FX001.  I don't really need a
double spin drive so I'm willing to trade mine for a regular LU005 plus
$80.  Any body out there wish they'd waited a little while to get a
double spin?   Call Lew at 504-888-8366

___
 X OLX 2.1 TD X It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 11796
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  1:53a
Subj: HOTTEST NEW SHAREWARE CD!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |     Title:  CD POWERBOX 2     |  |     $25.60      |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

      ** IT'S HERE! **  And be sure to check our great bonus paks below!
      ** BBS file support for Spitfire, PCBoard, Wildcat and others!

      The nicest BBS-ready shareware CD on the market has arrived!
      CD Powerbox 2.00 is a shareware disc featuring 600 Megs worth
      of brand new, PURE 1993 shareware files, with one HUGE difference!
      It contains Damar's new UNVIVERSAL INTERFACE or UI.  The UI offers
      the ability to manage most or all of your shareware CD's, without
      the hassle of always changing interfaces!  Here are some of its
      outstanding and unique features............................

      * Automatic installation of shareware disks
      * Support for over 15 different disks
      * New titles being added constantly!
      * Add or Remove titles with the click of the mouse button
      * Windows or DOS-based with Rich context-sensitive online help
      * Windows interface supports voice commands!
      * Quick and easy search feature to find specific programs
      * Copy an archive to your hard drive or install it directly off a CD!
      * View inside an archive right off the ROM!

      The UI is a commercial program and is NOT considered shareware.
      There is no cost for the UI when purchased with any of the Damar
      Enterprises CD-ROM products!

      The % of dupes between PowerBox2 and NOWL10 = 7.94% * PIER3 = 12.85%

 File dates.....    1993  File   %    Apx 'K'    %
                    ====  ==== =====  ======== =====
                       1   362  6.7%    24,601  4.1%   +------------------+
                       2   435  8.0%    33,095  5.5%   | Over 500 more    |
+------------------+   3   661 12.2%    53,387  8.8%   | files than Night |
| File listing     |   4   371  6.8%    33,852  5.6%   | Owl 10!          |
| available on the |   5   245  4.5%    22,427  3.7%   +------------------+
| Starvector BBS:  |   6    93  1.7%    10,369  1.7%
| 509-457-0206     |   7   852 15.7%   116,232 19.3%
+------------------+   8 2,162 39.7%   283,195 46.9%
                       9    24  0.4%     2,431  0.4%
                      10    67  1.2%    11,283  1.9%
                      11    76  1.4%     8,997  1.5%
                      12     0  0.0%         0  0.0%

 SPECIAL BONUS PAKS:
 -------------------
 1. CD Powerbox 2 + CD Powerbox 1.01 (no dupes!)........................$31
 2. CD Powerbox 2 + CD Winbox 1.01......................................$42
 3. CD Powerbox 2 + OS/2Box.............................................$45
 SUPER SPECIAL: ALL FOUR DISCS (Powerbox 1 & 2, OS/2Box, and Winbox)....$55

 ORDERS...............509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 FAX/INFO/ORDERS......509-457-2966..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 400+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4.50 to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * This tagline will self-destruct in 5-million nanoseconds.

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From: MALIBU                                 Number: 11797
  To: THE QUE                                  Date: 02/06/94  6:33p
Subj: New User Message                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hello Que!
You are validated!  Did you enjoy the files you downloaded from the CD ROM?  If
you would like to see anything added...please feel free to let me know.  In the
meantime...enjoy the LIBERATOR!

                      - MALIBU-

by the way, how do you like O O/S 2?  We are thinking about making the big
change from DOS to O/S 2.



... Only the rich have distant relatives.
--- T.A.G. 2.6f Standard
 * Origin: Liberator BBS (1:124/4006)
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From: BOB HAMILTON                           Number: 11798
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 02/05/94 10:51a
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES - New                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 > I hope the Sysops will find Bodacious Beauties to be a disc
 > worthy of
 > putting on line and paying the fees.

I guess we will see.  Best of luck.
 
Bob
--- GEcho 1.00
 * Origin: Shadowland Regina, Sk. Canada (306)789-1899 (1:140/119)
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From: DAVID RYDER                            Number: 11799
  To: THOMAS MENG                              Date: 02/05/94  8:31a
Subj: CD'S 4-SALE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


TM>   Busty Babes II
TM>   $20.00

      I'll take it if you include shipping to Niagara Falls, NY.

      If this is acceptable, post or netmail your address and I will
      send you a check.

TM>  * Origin: Meng's Madhouse * Hilton,N.Y. * 716-964-8323 (1:2613/366)

     David

   
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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 11800
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  7:38p
Subj: Hitachi 3600's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͸
       ³      CD-ROM's by MEG*A*BITE       ³
       ³ Specializing in Pre-Owned Drive's ³
       ³        for your BBS world!        ³
       ³              $99.00               ³
       ³   Refurbished Hitachi CDR-3600    ³
       ³     30 day complete warranty!     ³
       ³  "Your CD-ROM Drive Headquarters" ³
       ÆÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͵
       ³     Call today (517)892-5518      ³
       ³         FAX (517)892-5965         ³
       ³    We are a Philips LMS factory   ³
       ³        direct distributor!        ³
       ÆÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͵
       ³   VISA and MasterCard accepted!   ³
       ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ;


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 11801
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  7:38p
Subj: Pioneer's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͸
       ³      CD-ROM's by MEG*A*BITE       ³
       ³ Specializing in Pre-Owned Drive's ³
       ³        for your BBS world!        ³
       ³    Pioneer DRM-602X...$999.00     ³
       ³    Pioneer DRM-1804X.$1925.00     ³
       ³   Fido 1:239/675 FREQ "DRIVES"    ³
       ³  "Your CD-ROM Drive Headquarters" ³
       ÆÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͵
       ³     Call today (517)892-5518      ³
       ³         FAX (517)892-5965         ³
       ³    We are a Philips LMS factory   ³
       ³        direct distributor!        ³
       ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ;


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 11802
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  7:39p
Subj: CD-ROM Prices                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


                    ////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
                    \\          MEG*A*BITE         //
                    \\           presents          //
                    //         CD-ROM MANIA        \\
                    //       January 25, 1994      \\
                    \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/////////////////
                        This months special are:
       Philips CM-215, SCSI, 360/150, MS Photo, 64k buffer complete
          with a Future Domain 850 SCSI interface card and cable!
                                $190.00 ea
   *********************************************************************
   * Toshiba 3101B (N)............$199.00  INT,SCSI,BARE,300MS,BUYOUTS
   * Toshiba 3401B (N)............$389.00  INT,SCSI,BARE,200MS,D-SPD
   * Panasonic CR-562B (FN).......$259.00  INT,AT BUS,D-SPD COMPLETE!
   * Sony CD-31A (FN).............$199.00  INT,AT BUS,I/O COMPLETE!
   * Sony CD-31A/03 (FN)..........$269.00  INT,AT BUS,D-SPD MPC 2
   * Sony CD-33A (FN).............$239.00  INT,AT BUS,D-SPD **NEW**
   * Hitachi CDR-101 (FN) (NEW)...$189.00  INT,AT BUS,COMPLETE SYSTEM
   * Hitachi CDR-3600 (U).........$99.00   INT,AT BUS,BARE DAISYCHAIN 8
   * Philips CM-215/10 (FN).......$190.00  INT,SCSI,PLUG AND PLAY!
   * Philips CM-206A (FN).........$214.00  INT,AT BUS,D-SPD,COMPLETE!
   * Philips CD-215/01 (FN).......$175.00  INT,SCSI,BARE DRIVE
   * Pioneer DRM-604X(FN)........$1129.00  PWR/AUD CORDS,MAGAZINE,DRVR
NEW * Pioneer DRM-602X(FN)........$999.00  PWR/AUD CORDS, DOUBLE SPD!
NEW * Pioneer DRM-1804X (FN).....$1925.00  PWR/AUD CORDS, 4X SPD 18 DSK
   * Trantor T-130 SCSI CARD.......$74.00  25PIN EXTERNAL CONNECTIONS!
   * Future Domain 8Bit SCSI.......$42.00  25PIN EXTERNAL CONNECTIONS!
   * Hitachi IF8 CARD..............$60.00  FOR ALL HITACHI AT BUS CD's
   *********************************************************************
     We also carry external closures for drives, cases, power supplies
     IDC connectors, ribbon cables and supplies, caddys, sound cards
     and everything else for your computing needs! Call today!!!!!!!

(N)New, Factory Warr (U)Used, 30 day warr. (FN) Factory New, Full fact.
              (FD)Factory Demos, ASK ABOUT THE WARRANTY!!
         These units are GREAT BUYS, don't delay, call today!!!!!!!

                             MEG*A*BITE
                 " Your CD-ROM drive headquarters "
                         VOICE (517)892-5518
                         FAX   (517)892-5965



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From: WAYNE MATTHEWS                         Number: 11803
  To: THOMAS MENG                              Date: 02/06/94  7:56p
Subj: CD'S 4-Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 02-04-94 THOMAS MENG wrote to ALL...  
  
 TM>   I have 2 adult CD'S for sale.   
 TM>  Busty Babes 1  Vol 1   
 TM>  Best offer...   
  
I'll offer $30.  I'm not interested in an "investment," so if this  
is the version which has potential collector's value, I suppose   
I'll be out-bid.  Let me know.  
 * OFFLINE 1.56  
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From: DICK WALSH                             Number: 11804
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/06/94  9:38a
Subj: ADVERTISING                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Well I guess when it comes to spelling names   CLOSE only counts in Horshoes 
<GRIN>

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From: DICK WALSH                             Number: 11805
  To: TONY WHITE                               Date: 02/06/94  9:54a
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Tony  I sent you a check for the CD's you offered   We talked twice on the
phone about them    Did you ship them to me via UPS.   I am not worried
as I know you have to have time to let the check clear.  But I would like
to know when you do ship them.  <Dick>

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From: RAY DENALLI                            Number: 11806
  To: MARK COHEN                               Date: 02/06/94  9:45p
Subj: RE: FLORIDA STATUTES                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks.

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 11807
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 02/06/94  6:39a
Subj: Cd's For SAle                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Check is in the mail!

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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 11808
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  7:31p
Subj: Mitsumi Drive                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mitsumi single speed internal CD Rom drive. In the box with all docs
including controller card. Very little use.

$129.00 plus shipping.


Ron
813-978-0527

    WinQwk 2.0 a#435


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 11809
  To: DAVID MANZ                               Date: 02/06/94  2:03a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DM>You qoute your price for 7th Guest as $45.00 is this the OEM version or the
DM>Full box set? Just wondering how my prices stack up. I have the OEM version
DM>for
DM>$32.00 and the box set for $63.00..

If the OEM does not have the manual, how could I play the game?   Also,
what about the reg card?  Is it included too?  Thanks

Randy Neuner


 * QMPro 1.52 * Searching for light in the darkness of insanity.


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 11810
  To: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                        Date: 02/06/94  2:07a
Subj: adult cd's sale/trade                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FCJ>Have the following cd's for trade or sale. Only one copy of each is availab

FCJ>Storm 1: 700+Megs Gifs,text files, movies    $27.00

FCJ>Volcano:  Gifs 375 Megs.  $53.00

FCJ>Visual Fantasies II : 2,642 Gifs.   $27.00


Frank, I will trade for any of the above for any of the below (1 to 1):
Giffy Gold
Storm III
Adult Reference Library

Randy Neuner


 * QMPro 1.52 * I'm wobbling and I can't fall down!     Weeble


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From: CHAD HJELLE                            Number: 11811
  To: ALAN EVANS                               Date: 02/04/94  6:55a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Software Elimi               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 AE> discs for $15 each, unless otherwise noted, while supplies last. 
 AE> Black Box Shareware #4          Black Box Shareware #5 
 AE> Black Box Shareware #6 
Could you give me information on the above disks, such as how recent
they are, how many megabytes of programs on each, and are they BBS ready
(with FILES.BBS in each directory).  I just got a CD-ROM for my BBS and
I want to get a shareware disk to go with it.  Thanks.

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 11812
  To: CHRIS CONKLIN                            Date: 02/05/94 12:45p
Subj: Thanks                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Chris,   I received the replacement for the dead CD-ROM drive.  It works
well, and I am happy.  The drive came only four days after I had sent it
out.  The first drive definetely had problems.  This drive is basically
silent, whereas the first drive was extremely loud.  Anyway,  thanks for
handeling this problem professionally and effiently.  I am satisfied and
I am writing a note to "ALL" users letting them know you are a
trustworthy vendor.
                              Shane Snyder
 ps.  Could I please get a copy of the booklet that was to be included
 with the drive? you mentioned someone forgot to put one in with my
 package.  Please send me one out.
                                286 Main St. Apt.#3
                                Greenville, PA  16125

 þ SLMR 2.1a þ 

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 11813
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/05/94 12:48p
Subj: Chris Conklin                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I just wanted to tell everyone the Chris Conklin of C-3 Production
Systems is a great vendor in my opinion.  We had a difficult situation
as a factory sealed CD-ROM drive he sold me was D.O.A.  He quickly
resolved this problem and I had a new drive within a week.  I realize
that problems such as these are beyond the control of the vendor, but I
am grateful that he called me long-distance and assured me that I would
have a working drive soon.  Anyway, I give him "thumbs-up".

 þ SLMR 2.1a þ 

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 11814
  To: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                        Date: 02/06/94  2:05p
Subj: adult cd's trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FCJ>XX Extreme: 614 Megs Gifs, Movies..... $27.00
FCJ>Storm I : 700 Megs Gifs,Movies,Text Files....  $27.00
FCJ>Storm II : 5,1129 files, Gifs,Movies.   $28.00
FCJ>Visual Fantasies: 2,500 Gifs, 466 Megs.  $27.00
FCJ>Physical Therapy:  Gifs,Movies,Text.....  $27.00
FCJ>Volcano:  375 Megs Gifs.....   $53.00
FCJ>Visual Fantasies II : 2,642 Gifs....  $27.00

I have Animation Fantasies I or So Much Shareware  CD-ROMs I will offer
as trade for any of the above (oreferably XX Extreme).
                        Shane
 þ SLMR 2.1a þ 

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From: PAUL DIESTELHORST                      Number: 11815
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  6:41p
Subj: Pioneer DRM-640X                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can any of you dealers give me a good price on a Pioneer DRM-640x with
 interface kit. Would like to purchase one real soon.

                                                Paul

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From: KATHY FANARA                           Number: 11816
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 02/09/94  3:14p
Subj: Comptons's Int Ency                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ed -- I'll take one.  Tell me total $ (P&H to RI zip 02818) and where to
send it if still available.  Thx.


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From: ROBERT MOORE                           Number: 11817
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 02/09/94 11:43a
Subj: Order                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks for you netmail message a week ago.  I would like to order 8 of your
CDR3600 Hitachi drives.  My work number is 804/340-9138. Thanks in advance.
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 11818
  To: CHARLES BEYER                            Date: 02/09/94  6:46a
Subj: Re: William Eng                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CB> What kind of SIMM chips do you have?  I might be interested in buying them
CB> from you.
CB> 
CB> thanks

1x9 70ns = $52.00
   or
1x3 70ns = $55.00

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From: RON COLEMAN                            Number: 11819
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/09/94 11:04p
Subj: Firefighter                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm looking for a CD called Firefighter,If anyone has it leave me 
E-Mail.Thanks you.
                                     

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From: HOWARD ONEIL                           Number: 11820
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/10/94  3:29a
Subj: Will TRADE 3-1/2" HD drives for CDROM Readers  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll TRADE the following USED HD drives for a USED CDROM as follows. 
  
-------------------------------------------------------------------- 
Manuf.    Model        Cap Type Speed   Height    Size   Bad Sect    
-------------------------------------------------------------------- 
  
Seagate ST-1144a     130meg IDE 15ms  1/2 Height  3-1/2"   NONE     
  
Rodime  RO-3055 (008) 45meg MFM 28ms  1/2 Height  3-1/2"  Minimal   
  
Rodime  RO-3055 (90B) 45meg MFM 28ms  1/2 Height  3-1/2"  Minimal  
  
  Rodime's MATCHED PAIR C: and D: drive set!  C: drive Coretest at 
  21.91ms while D: Coretest at 24.33ms.  Surpassing rated speeds! 
  
  Both MFM's for a Low End MITSHUMI or PANASONIC CDROM drive, or 
  trade the SEAGATE for a Low End SCSI (SCSI's Preferred) or ALL 
  for a High Quality CDROM drive such as Toshiba w/software. 
  
Respond here, as ONLY local calls in Pgh. area will be made. You  may call me
however between 9:00am and 2:00pm Monday thru Friday  at (412) 361-2063. 
Please do so Only during the hourss specified. 
  
Howard O'Neil 

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From: JEFF NEWMAN                            Number: 11821
  To: JERRY ZELLER                             Date: 02/11/94  2:22a
Subj: Re: cd's 4-sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JZ> Jeff - if your other deal doesn't work out, I'll offer $15
 JZ> shipped for the mayo cd.  Jerry

 Jerry, thank you for your offer. I am trying to trad Mayo and or 7th
 Guest for adult disks other than FAO, Storm, or Hot Pix Series.

 ... Software too hard

-Jeff NOPCCCC

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From: MIKE BARROW                            Number: 11822
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/10/94  7:42p
Subj: Os/2 , windows shareware                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>I have a copy of 1993 OS/2 Box [DAMAR] that I would like to trade for
MB>equal value and quality 1993 Windows shareware CD.
MB>
MB>Mail back or call [904]828-1884 days, 641-5059 eves and weekends.
MB>
MB>                     .\\ike
MB>
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Sent 02/06/94, 16:31 from .\\ike

"Jacksonville, home of the undefeated JAGUARS"
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From: MIKE BARROW                            Number: 11823
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/10/94  7:42p
Subj: Os/2 cd software                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

OS/2 Box CD shareware disk...     $20 + shipping or trade for good
Windows shareware disk of equal value.

OS/2 For Windows [shrink wrapped] $39 + shipping...

Will consider trade for Microsoft Multimedia titles such as Stravinsky or
Mozart.

            Call [904]828-1884 or 641-5059 eves.

Sent 02/10/94, 19:24 from .\\ike

"Jacksonville, home of the undefeated JAGUARS"
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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 11824
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/09/94 11:14a
Subj: REBEL ASSAULT 4-Sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Rebel Assault CD-ROM................................... $ 42.99
Wing Commander Privateer...............................   46.95
Privateer Speech Pack..................................   18.95
 
If interested in any of the above call me at (915)673-1911 or on my BBS
at (915)673-8181.   

Payment Terms: We accept Visa, MasterCard, COD, Money Order, or Check.  Make
all checks and money orders payable to Digital Broadcast Video.   

Digital Broadcast Video
3318 South 7th Street
Abilene, TX 79605

We carry a complete line of PC compatible, and Amiga products.  Need a price
beat?  Call us.

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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 11825
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/09/94 11:20a
Subj: Adult CD-ROMS 4-Sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   Digital Broadcast Video
*                   3318 South 7th Street
*                  Abilene, TX 79605
* 
*    VOICE: (915)673-1911 BBS: (915)673-8173 14.4 BBS: (915)673-8181
* 
*   ****************** Adult CD-ROM Titles ****************************
* 
*Hot Pics 5.................................................... $ 22.50
*Amateur Models................................................   22.50
*A.P.L. Volume 1...............................................   22.50
**NEW* Interactive Adult Movie Almanac.........................   56.95
**NEW* Interactive Playboy Electronic Datebook.................   44.50
*Island Girls..................................................   16.95
*Island Girls Volume 2.........................................   16.95
*Hawaiian Classic..............................................   19.95
*Kama Sutra....................................................   38.95
*King Dong.....................................................   44.50
**NEW* Pinch of Pepper.........................................   44.50
**NEW* Hot Pics!...............................................   38.95
*Penthouse Interactive.........................................   81.00
* 
*Many other titles available, call for pricing...  We also sell many
*non-adult CD-ROM titles.
*   
*You must be 18 years of age or older to order any of the above titles.
*Terms are as follows, we accept VISA, Mastercard, Money Order, and COD.
*add additional $5.00 for COD Charges.
* 
*Phone Lines Open 7-days a week 9am - 9pm CST.   If residing in Texas be
*sure to include 8.25% sales tax.   Make all checks and money orders
*payable to Digital Broadcast Video.
* 
*P.S. We will also give you a trade in discount on used Adult CD-ROMS, or
*     we will purchase your used Adult CD-ROMS.
* 
P.P.S. The main BBS # is (915)673-8181 2400 n81 the 673-8173 is now a FAX
line.

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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 11826
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/10/94  6:01p
Subj: Adult CD-ROMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

			     Digital Broadcast Video
			      3318 South 7th Street
				Abilene, TX 79605

    VOICE: (915)673-1911 BBS: (915)673-8173 14.4 BBS: (915)673-8181

   ****************** Adult CD-ROM Titles ****************************

Hot Pics 5.................................................... $ 22.50
Amateur Models................................................   22.50
A.P.L. Volume 1...............................................   22.50
*NEW* Interactive Adult Movie Almanac.........................   56.95
*NEW* Interactive Playboy Electronic Datebook.................   44.50
Best of Vivid.................................................   38.95
Giffy Gold....................................................   38.95
Island Girls..................................................   16.95
Island Girls Volume 2.........................................   16.95
Hawaiian Classic..............................................   19.95
Kama Sutra....................................................   38.95
King Dong.....................................................   44.50
*NEW* Pinch of Pepper 5 Top Rated Adult Movies on CD-ROM......   44.50
*NEW* Hot Pics................................................   38.95
Ultimate Erotica Collection...................................   16.95
Penthouse Interactive.........................................   81.00 *NEW*
New Machine Publishing CD-ROM Sampler.........................    6.95

Many other titles available, call for pricing...  We also sell many
non-adult CD-ROM titles.
	
You must be 18 years of age or older to order any of the above titles.
Terms are as follows, we accept VISA, Mastercard, Money Order, and COD.
add additional $5.00 for COD Charges.

Phone Lines Open 7-days a week 9am - 9pm CST.   If residing in Texas be
sure to include 8.25% sales tax.   Make all checks and money orders
payable to Digital Broadcast Video.
 
P.S. We will also give you a trade in discount on used Adult CD-ROMS, or
     we will purchase your used Adult CD-ROMS.

We are still in the process of printing our catalog, as soon as one is
available
we will rush it to you.

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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 11827
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/10/94  6:02p
Subj: CD-ROM Readers 4-Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

************************ CD ROM UPGRADE PACKAGES ***************************

CREATIVE LABS INC.  
------------------

                          GAME BLASTER CD 16

A tremendous kit for the game enthusiast! Inculde 7 popular games, plus
SOUNDBLASTER 16, CREATIVE DOUBLE-SPEED CD-ROM DRIVE, CREATIVE CD BLASTER,
Speakers and Joystick!  Bundled software: RETURN TO ZORK, REBEL ASSAULT,
IRON HELIX, SIM CITY 2000, CREATIVE CD BLASTER which includes: Lemmings,
Indianapolis 500, The Simulation, Easy Keys music package, AVI Files,
WAV Files, MIDI Files, Creative WaveStudio, Creative Sound LE, Creative
Mosaic, and Creative Talking.

GAME BLASTER CD 16 MCD.........................................$389.99
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                          OMNI CD UPGRADE KIT 

Offering Unparalleled Performance, The Double Speed CD-ROM Drive is 
Multi-Session Photo CD Compatible, full MPC LEVEL 2 Compliant and features
a convenient front-loading tray, a front panel Head Phone Jack and volume
control for playback of audio CDs.  The Creative Omni CD Upgrade Kit.
Support all PCS and Sound Cards.  Double Speed, 300 KB/SEC Transfer Rate,
Fast Data Access of 350MS, Large Storage Capability, MULTI-SESSION PHOTO
CD COMPATIBLE, MPC LEVEL 2 COMPLAINT, For use in systems with or without
Sound Cards.  Software Included: Aldus Photostyler SE, Photo CD Access
and editing software, and QUICK CD, DOS, AND Windows based audio CD Player.

CREATIVE OMNI CD UPGRADE.......................................$249.00
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*********************** AZTECH LABS, INC. ********************************

AZTECH CDA 268A-10A KIT NMC

Double Speed CD-ROM Drive M/300 KB/SEC Data Transfer Rate.  Fully KODAK
Photo CD Compatible, Both Single and Multiple session.  MOTORIZED DISK 
RETURN TECHNOLOGY (MDR).  Direct CD PLAY and TRACK SKIPPING button on 
front Panel.  Front Panel Volume Headphone.  Rear Panel Digital Audio
Output (VIDEO ON CD READY).  Rear Panel Analogue Audio Outpup.  Meets the
Requirements of MPC LEVEL II.  NO NEED FOR A CADDY.  Does Include The
CDROM Interface Kit.

AZTECH CDA 268A-10A KIT NMC....................................$178.50
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Don't miss out on these new all time low prices on MPC LEVEL II CD-ROM 
Upgrades.  Call to order yours today.

Payment Policies: We accept VISA, MASTERCARD, COD, Checks and Money Orders.  
Prices and availability subject to change without notice. Add $5.00 for 
COD charges.  Make all checks and Money Orders payable to Digital Broadcast 
Video and mail them to the following address.

                            DIGITAL BROADCAST VIDEO
                             3318 South 7th Street
                              Abilene, TX 79605
    
    Voice (915)673-1911  BBS (915)673-8181 2400 N81  FAX (915)673-8173
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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 11828
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/10/94  6:03p
Subj: PC Compatible CD-ROMS for Sale          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

			     Digital Broadcast Video
			      3318 South 7th Street
				Abilene, TX 79605

    VOICE: (915)673-1911 BBS: (915)673-8173 14.4 BBS: (915)673-8181

****************************Software Titles ****************************

Wing Commander - Privater   3.5" Disk......................... $ 38.95
Wing Commander - Privater Speech Pack.........................    9.95
X-Wing REBEL ASSAULT CD-ROM...................................   38.95 
Dr. Games  CD-ROM  BBS Ready Loaded with all types of PD Games   
***Special Purchase***                                            5.95
*NEW* *HOT* Arctic Baron......................................   38.95
*NEW* *HOT* Dragon's Lair CD-ROM, like the arcade version.....   39.95

Many other titles available, call for pricing......

	
Terms are as follows, we accept VISA, Mastercard, Money Order, and COD.
add additional $5.00 for COD Charges.

Phone Lines Open 7-days a week 9am - 9pm CST.   If residing in Texas be
sure to include 8.25% sales tax.   Make all checks and money orders
payable to Digital Broadcast Video.
 
P.S. We will also give you a trade in discount on used CD-ROMS, or
     we will purchase your used CD-ROMS.
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From: FREEMAIL                               Number: 11829
  To: FREEMAIL                                 Date: 02/08/94  5:38a
Subj: High water mark                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: ZACH WALKER                            Number: 11830
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94  5:04p
Subj: CD-Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I have a used 6-Disk CD_Rom.  I am willing to sell it cheep. 
2: Under $800.00.  BRAND NEW CONDITION!! 
3: Call me if you want to buy at 492-3693. 
4:                              Thanks, 
5:                                    Zach Walker
* SPITFIRE v3.4
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From: LEW MURRAY                             Number: 11831
  To: RICHARD MCNULTY                          Date: 02/11/94  6:21p
Subj: Mitsumi Upgrade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RM>LM-->Anyone wishing to trade in their single spin, out of warranty, Mitsumi
RM>LM-->LU005 + cash for a brand new, one year warrranty double spin Mistumi
RM>LM-->FX001 drive, contact Lew at 504-888-8366 or leave me a message on this
RM>LM-->echo with your phone number.

RM>OK..I'll bite.  What's the details.  I just had an old Mitsumi decide
RM>that it no longer wants to work.  Does it count in this offer?

Richard;

No catch.  But a deal has already been made.  I just didn't need a
double spin so I took an LU005 + $80 in trade for my new FX001.  I do
have a source for purchasing FX001 drives.  If you want one for $205
plus S&H, let me know.

Lew
___
 X OLX 2.1 TD X Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic

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From: MARK DINKEL                            Number: 11832
  To: STU TURK                                 Date: 02/11/94  7:38a
Subj: windows bridge                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Stu, the demo version you gave to does not require the upgrade. There is a 2K
file called whats.new that decribes the new features for version 1.22 and how
to upgrade your current version. Would you like me to upload this file? If so
what name should I give it, SWBUPGRD.TXT? Do you want it in txt or zip format.
Mark


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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 11833
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/10/94  9:59p
Subj: GREATEST CD PRICES  1/3                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

101 Sexual Position  #1        39  Mayo Clinic/Family Health /Win 29
101 Sexual Positions #2        39  Mega Movie Guide               39
20th Century Almanac *B        25  Mega Rap Rock & Roll /Windows  49
A Line In The Sand             29  Microsoft Bookshelf 93 *B      49
ACS Multimedia Sound Library   19  Microsoft Cinemania            65
Active SP-680 80watt Speakers 109  Microsoft Encarta              95
Adult Palate v1 PC/MAC/Photo   39  Microsoft Works For Windows    49
Adult Reference Library        29  Microsoft Works for Windows    45
Adventures /MPC                39  MIDI Music Shop /WIN *B        29
Adventures Of Willy Beamish *B 25  MidiScan for Windows (Disk)   279
After Dark Trilogy             49  MidiSoft MIDI Kit w/Record Ses 69
Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp 39  Midisoft Studio For Windows    50
All American Series MultiMedia 29  MidiSoft Studio,Music Library  50
All American Sights & Sounds   29  Midnight Movie Madness for WIN 39
All American Sports, BB/FB/TEN 39  Might & Magic: World of Xeen   49
All Music Guide                49  Mitsumi FX 2xSpd, 250ms, 350k 219
Alone in the Dark              55  Mitsumi Int. Drive, 350ms,150k139
Altec Lansing ACS-50 Speakers  79  MM Music Library (Diskette)    49
Alternate Lifesyles            49  Monarch Notes DOS/MAC          49
Amanda Stories MPC             45  Monster Media '93              29
Amateur Models                 39  Mother Earth II                39
American Girls PC/MAC/Photo    39  Mother Goose, Multimedia *B    29
American Heritage Illustrated  69  Movie Select /Windows          45
American Premier Shareware     19  Mozart                         25
Animals, San Deigo Zoo /WIN *B 29  MPC Wizard, Test & Tuneup      15
Animals, San Diego Zoo /DOS *B 29  MPU-401 Sound Card             55
Animation Fantasies #1         39  MRS 14 watt Amplified Speakers 79
Animation Fantasies #2         39  MRS 8 watt Amplified Speakers  49
Anthony Robbin's Power Talk    25  MS Beethoven 9th Symphony      59
Arthur's Teacher Trouble       49  Multimedia Computer Case      219
Arthur's Teacher Trouble *B    29  Multimedia Computer Guide *B   19
Asian Ladies                   49  Murder Makes Str. Deadfellows  45
Audobon /Complete Mammals/Bird 59  MusicPower-Learn Guitar (disk) 69
Audobons Birds Of America /MM  29  My Private Collection #1       29
Audobons Mammals, Multimedia   29  My Private Collection #2       39
Authorware Star /MPC           39  National Geo. Mammals /MM *B   29
Band-In-A-Box, MIDI (Diskette) 55  National Parks *B              25
Bare Assets, Quicktime/Win     69  National Parks /MM             39
Barney Bear Goes To School     25  New Kid on the Block           45
Barney Bear Goes To Space      25  New Wave Hookers II  PC/MAC    45
Baseball Cards, Front Row Ed.  39  Newsweek Interactive II        29
Basic Electronic CookBook      59  Night Owl Games Disc           25
Basic Electronic Cookbook *B   29  Night Owl Graphics             29
Battle Chess *B                29  Night Owl v10 Shareware        25
Beauty & The Beast             39  Night Owl v11 Shareware        29
Beauty & The Beast *B          25  Night Owl Windows Shareware    25
Berlitz Think&Talk Eng To Fren119  NightWatch Interactive PC/MAC  49
Berlitz Think&Talk Eng To Germ119  Oceans Below                   29
Berlitz Think&Talk Eng To Ital119  Orchid CDS-3110 2xspd CD-ROM  259
Berlitz Think&Talk Eng To Span119  Orchid SoundWave 32 Sound Card239
Best of MicroProse  MAC/DOS    29  OS/2 For Windows CD-ROM        45
Best Of Vivid (In Motion)      49  Pacific Islands                39
Betrayal Adult Movie Win/MAC   49  Paradise Club Interactive      59
Bible Lands, Bible Stories     39  Parallel MIDI Int. w/Win Drv   95
Bible Library                  39  PC Game Room /Shareware Games  25
Blue Force (Accolade)          49  PC Karaoke (OEM version)       25
Boom Box                       29  PC Karaoke /Full Retail        65
Bureau World Fact Book DOS/MAC 29  PC-Pix #1                      39
Business Master                20  PC-Pix #2                      39
Capstone Casino Collection     19  PC-SIG #12                     25
Capstone Kids Collection /Box  19  Pc-Sig World of Games          20
Carmen San Diego Deluxe *B     29  Pc-Sig World of Windows        20
Carmen San Diego Deluxe /Box   59  Peter & The Wolf *B            29
Case Of The Cautious Condor    39  Peter & The Wolf /MPC          39
Cat&Mouse Adult Movie Win/MAC  49  Phone Sex                      29
CD Deluxe Pack MPC             29  PhoneDisc USA: Business /Box   59
CD Duo II (Mario, World Atlas) 29  PhoneDisc USA: Residental /Box 65
CD Powerbox Shareware v2.0     25  Physical Therapy               29
Chess Maniac 5 billion and 1   45  PianoWorks #1 /DOS (Diskette)  95
ChessMaster 3000, Multimedia   29  PianoWorks #2 /DOS (Diskette)  95
CIA Fact Book / Shareware      15  Pixel Perfect Graphics         29
Clinton: Portrait of Victory   19  Playing With Lang: English  *B 39
Clip Master Pro (Softkey)      29  Playing With Lang: French   *B 39
Clipart Galore                 29  Playing With Lang: German   *B 39
Clipart Heaven                 29  Playing With Lang: Japanese *B 39
ColorMagic Clipart             29  Playing With Lang: Spanish  *B 39
Comanche: Maximum Overkill     69  PorkWare #1                    49
Complete House, CAD/FP Package 29  PorkWare #2                    49
Composer Quest *B              29  Private Pleasures, John Holmes 49
Composer Quest /MPC-Windows    69  Pro Audio Spectrum 16         189
Comptons Golf Guide Haw/Cal MM 39  Pro Audio Studio (Enhanced)   249
Comptons Interactive /Win *B   69  Pro PC TV Plus, VGA/TV Convert229
Comptons MPC Ency. /DOS *B     59  Pro Phone 1993 7-CD Set       119
Comptons MPC Ency. /Win *B     59  ProtoStar, War on the Frontier 49
Conan The Cimmerian            39  Publish It! For Windows *B     49
 
                SPYR INC  -  PO Box 89  -  Erie PA 16512 
 
         MENTION THIS ADD ON NETMAIL TO RECEIVE ABOVE PRICES
 
     Shipping: Add $3 for UPS Ground on any order.  COD, Add $4.50 
     Terms: VISA/MC/AMEX/Check/MO/COD.  Most Orders Ship same day.   
   Dealers: We're one of the largest suppliers around, call 4 prices.
 
      Call (814)864-4666 to order or fax orders to (814)864-3993
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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 11834
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/10/94 10:00p
Subj: GREATEST CD PRICES  2/3                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Conan The Cimmerian *B         29  Publish-It! v2 *B              29
Corel ArtShow III              39  Publishers Paradise            29
Curse Of Enchantia             35  Putt Putt Goes To The Moon     45
Cyber Audio Bundle /SRS, 1MB  329  Putt Putt Joins The Parade     49
Cyber Audio Bundle, 1MB ROM   269  Putt-Putt Fun Pack             39
Cyber Audio Bundle,Texel CDROM639  Q&A Database v4.0 *B           39
Cyber Race                     49  Quicken for Windows: Deluxe    75
Cyber Sound Plus /SRS, 512 ROM289  QuickToons: Cartoons For MPC   39
Cyber Sound Plus, 512k ROM    229  Rebel Assault CD               49
Dark Sun, Shattered Lands      59  ReelMagic MPEG, Video & Audio 429
Day Of The Tenacle/Maniac      49  Return To The Moon             39
Debbie Does Dallas             49  Return To Zork                 49
Deep Throat, The Movie         49  Return To Zork *B              32
Dictionary, Living World *B    39  Revel European Racers          35
Digital Dancing  PC/MAC        49  RingWorld Revenge of Patriarch 45
Digital Dreams                 39  Roger Eberts Home Movies *B    39
Dinosaur Adventure             49  Roland RAP-10 Sound Producer  519
Dinosaur Adventure *B          29  Roland SC-7 Ext. Sound Module 349
Dinosaurs! Encyclopedia        59  Roland SCC1-B Sound Producer  399
Dinosaurs! Encyclopedia *B     29  ROMaterial                     25
Dirty Talk /PC Movie           49  ROMaterial *B                  15
Disk Caddies                    5  Rotor / Air Ball / Time Bandit 19
Dr Games                       19  Sante Healthy Living, Cookbook 45
Dr Music                       19  Scary Poems For Rotten Kids    25
Dr Shareware                   19  SCSI-II CR533-B CD-ROM, No int319
Dr Windows                     19  Secret Of Monkey Island *B     29
Dr. Book Of Home Remedies      35  Secret Weapons Of The Lufwaffe 29
Dr. Book of Home Remedies *B   19  Secrets of Executive Success   35
Dracula Unleashed CD           55  Seedy ROM Movie #1             49
Dream Team: Advanced Spelling  29  SeedyRom Seventh Heaven        39
Dream Team: Alphabet Blocks    29  Seymore Butts Adventure /PC    49
Dream Team: Basic Spelling     29  Shareware Avalanche            15
Dream Team: Beginning Reading  29  Shareware Gold                 19
Dream Team: Early Math         29  Shareware Studio #3            19
Dream Team: Kids Typing        29  Sherlock Holmes Con. Det. II   39
Dune, versions 1/2             59  Sherlock Holmes Con. Det. III  55
EcoQuest, Environment Game     49  Sherlock Holmes Consult Detect 29
EcoQuest, Environment Game *B  29  Sherlock Holmes, Comp. Works   19
Education Master               20  Sing-a-Long Windows (Diskette) 39
Electronic Home Library        29  Sleeping Beauties Adult Movie  59
Eric The Unready               45  Sleeping Beauty /MM Story *B   19
Erotic Encounters #1           39  Sleeping Beauty /MM Storybook  29
Erotic Encounters #2           49  So Much MODEM MADNESS          25
Ext. Panasonic AT 562 CD-ROM  319  So Much SCREENware             29
Eye of The Beholder III *B     29  So Much Shareware /2           15
Eye Of The Beholder Trilogy    59  So Much Shareware /3           25
F-15 Strike Eagle III  *B      29  So Much SPACE                  29
F117A/F15 w/Scenario's         49  Software Jukebox, 3 Games      39
Family Choice /DOS *B          29  Software Jukebox, 3 Games *B   25
Family Circus, on Vacation MPC 35  Software Vault #2              19
Family Circus, Our House       45  Something Wicked Movie Win/MAC 49
Family Doctor                  39  Something Wicked Photo CD      49
Family Education Collection *B 29  Sony 31A Drive & Card         169
Fantazia Fonts & Sounds w/book 29  Sony CD-ROM 31-A/3 2x Speed   229
Fatty Bear's Birthday Surprise 45  Sound Effects Library          19
Fatty Bears Fun Pack           29  Sound Galaxy BX II Sound Card  69
FontMaster #2                  29  Sound Galaxy Pro NX-16        159
Fonts for the Professional v1  39  Sound Leader Pro               89
Fractal Ecstasy /MM            39  SoundBlaster 16 ASP MultiCD   229
Free Windows/OS2 Demos Disc     0  SoundBlaster 16 ASP SCSI      249
Future Wars                    49  SoundBlaster Compatible Card   59
Game Master                    20  Southern Beauties              39
GamePAK Deluxe (Capstone)      29  Space Adventure                59
GamePak II                     29  Space Adventure *B             29
Geekwad Games of the Galaxy    25  Space Quest IV                 49
Giffy Gold, California Girls   39  Space Quest IV *B              25
GigaByte Gold                  29  Space Shuttle                  25
Girls Of Vivid v1 (Stills)     39  Spirit Of Excalibur            29
Girls Of Vivid v2 (Stills)     39  Sports Best *B                 29
Girls, Girls, Girls, Girls     29  Sports Illustrated Almanac     49
Global Explorer /Win           95  Sports Illustrated Almanac *B  29
Gobliins 1                     39  Spyr Mouse Pads                 3
Gobliins 2                     39  Star Trek 25th Anniversary     59
Golden Immortal                25  Star Wars Chess *B             25
Goldilocks, 3 Bears: English   29  STAREware                      35
Goldilocks, 3 Bears: French    29  Stellar 7 *B                   25
Goldilocks, 3 Bears: Spanish   29  Storm #2                       29
Govt Giveaway for Entrepreneur 49  Storm #3, Adam & Eve Portfolio 39
Grade Builder A+               45  Street Atlas USA               95
Graphics Animation Festival    29  Tempra Access Imaging Software 25 
 
                SPYR INC  -  PO Box 89  -  Erie PA 16512 
 
         MENTION THIS ADD ON NETMAIL TO RECEIVE ABOVE PRICES
 
     Shipping: Add $3 for UPS Ground on any order.  COD, Add $4.50 
     Terms: VISA/MC/AMEX/Check/MO/COD.  Most Orders Ship same day.   
   Dealers: We're one of the largest suppliers around, call 4 prices.
 
      Call (814)864-4666 to order or fax orders to (814)864-3993
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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 11835
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/10/94 10:00p
Subj: GREATEST CD PRICES  3/3                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Great Cities Of The World #1   29  Terminator 2, Chess Wars       39
Great Cities Of The World #2   29  Tetris Gold                    39
Great Cities Of The World1/Win 29  The 7th Guest                  49
Great Cities Of The World2/Win 29  The Barlow Affair: Teri Weigle 49
Greatest Childrens Stories     39  The Book Of Lists #3 /DOS *B   29
Groliers Encyc v6  DOS/MM *B   49  The Book Of Lists #3 MPC/MAC   35
Groliers Encyc v6 MPC/Win *B   49  The Dagger Of Amon Ra          49
Guinness Records /DOS *B       39  The Dagger Of Amon Ra *B       29
Guinness Records 93 /Win *B    29  The Devil in Miss Jones        49
GunShip 2000 w/Scenarios       45  The Grammy Awards              49
GunShip 2000 w/Scenerio's *B   29  The Grammy Awards *B           29
Guy Spy                        35  The Holy Bible, Christian SW   20
Halo Desktop Imager            25  The Maddams Family Movie       49
Hard Days Night - The Beatles  35  The Oregon Trail               49
Hell Cab /MPC                  59  The Prescription Pill Book CD  39
Hidden Obsessions /PC Movie    49  The Tortoise and the Hare      45
High Volume Nudes PC/MAC/Photo 39  The World Of Flight            29
Hobby Corner (Nature) vol #1   35  The World Of Trains            29
Hot Hunks, Male Image Fantasy  49  Things Change, My First Time   49
Humans                         29  Time Magazine: Desert Storm    39
Icons, Wallpaper & More        29  Timetable Art/Entertainment *B 29
Inca                           45  Timetable, History/Science *B  29
Indiana Jones,Fate Of Atlantis 49  TJ Finds a Friend              29
Inferno: Starring Teri Weigle  49  Tornado Flight Combat *B       29
InfoCom Lost Treasures #1      45  Total Baseball '93 DOS/MAC *B  29
InfoCom Lost Treasures #2      36  Total Baseball /Box            49
Int. Panasonic AT 562 CD-ROM  239  Total Fantasty                 29
Interactive Adult Sampler '93  15  Traci Lords I Love You! MPC/MA 39
Interactive Storytime #1 *B    29  Turtle Beach Maui Wavetable   179
Interactive Storytime #2 *B    29  Turtle Beach Multisound Card  579
Interactive Storytime #3 *B    29  U.S. Atlas for Windows         25
Interplay 10 Year Anthology    55  U.S. History                   29
Its a Bird Life WIN/MAC        39  U.S./World Atlas for Win *B    39
Jazz History /MM               55  UFO For Windows                45
Jazz History /MM *B            29  Ultima I..IV Series /Retail    59
Jones In The Fast Lane *B      29  Ultima Underworld I & II       59
Journeyman Project             49  Ultimate Shareware #2          25
Just Fonts, 250+ Fonts         25  US Presidents MPC *B           29
Just Grandma & Me /MPC         45  USA Today News                 59
Jutland - Ships Of Steel       49  USA Today News *B              29
Kathy Smiths Fat Burning Syst. 55  USA Tour w/Geography Game      39
Kawai FS-750 MIDI Keyboard    295  VGA Spectrum #2                20
Key Map for Windows (Softkey)  29  Video Blaster (Creative Labs) 349
Keyfonts Pro (Softkey) Win/MAC 29  Video Cube Space Game  /MPC    49
Kids Works 2                   39  Video Spigot (Creative Labs)  419
Kids Zoo                       55  Virtual Reality Starter Kit #1 49
Kings James Bible  /Box        25  Visual Fantasies               29
Kings Quest V *B               29  VocabuLearn French             49
Kings Quest VI                 55  VocabuLearn Spanish            49
Kings Quest VI *Upgrade        35  Wacky Funsters (Accolade)      29
Kodak Photo Access CD          20  Walnut Creek "C" Source Code   25
Labtec CS-180 Stereo Speakers  22  Walnut Creek 'La Coleccion     25
Labtec CS-550 Stereo Speakers  35  Walnut Creek AMINET; Amiga     20
Labyrinth of Time              55  Walnut Creek CICA Windows      20
Languages of the World         39  Walnut Creek Garbo Archive     20
Learn To Speak Eng From Italia 39  Walnut Creek GIFs Galore       24
Learn To Speak Eng From Span   39  Walnut Creek Giga Games        25
Learn To Speak Eng from Span   49  Walnut Creek Info-MAC          29
Learn To Speak Span From Eng.  39  Walnut Creek OS/2 Archive      20
Legend Of Kama Sutra           49  Walnut Creek QRZ! Ham Radio    20
Legend Of Kyrandia             45  Walnut Creek Simtel20          20
Legends Of Porn II  PC/MAC     45  Who Killed Sam Rupert? *B      22
Lifestyle,Rich/Famous Cookbook 35  Who Killed Sam Rupert? /Box    29
Lightning CD Cache, DOS/WIN    69  Windows 1993 Collection        29
LineLink 14.4k Modem          129  Windows 3.1, Recording Session 45
Loom *B                        29  Windows Master                 20
Lord Of The Rings              49  Windows Plus                   25
Lost in Time                   29  Windows Shareware Gold         25
Lovely Ladies II               49  Wing Command/Ultima Underworld 55
Luscious Ladies                39  Wing Commander I Deluxe        35
Lyric Language: French         39  Wing Commander II Deluxe       35
Lyric Language: Spanish        39  Wing Commander/Ultima VI *B    29
MacMillan Dict For Child *B    25  Wing Commander/Ultima VI /Box  39
MacMillan Dict. for Children   49  Wolf Pack                      39
Mad Dog McCree                 39  Women Of Venus                 39
Manhole Game for Kids /Box     35  World Atlas v4 for Windows *B  25
Mantis, 21st Space Fighter *B  29  World Of Ham Radio             39
Mario is Missing Deluxe        29  World Of Shareware 3-CD Set    39
Mavis Beacon Typing /MM        29  Wrath Of The Demon *B          29
Mayo Clinic "The Total Heart"  39  Wrath Of The Demon /Box        39
 
                SPYR INC  -  PO Box 89  -  Erie PA 16512 
 
         MENTION THIS ADD ON NETMAIL TO RECEIVE ABOVE PRICES
 
     Shipping: Add $3 for UPS Ground on any order.  COD, Add $4.50 
     Terms: VISA/MC/AMEX/Check/MO/COD.  Most Orders Ship same day.   
   Dealers: We're one of the largest suppliers around, call 4 prices.
 
      Call (814)864-4666 to order or fax orders to (814)864-3993
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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 11836
  To: MICHAEL HADEN                            Date: 02/11/94 12:06p
Subj: Claw marks                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hi Diana I have found the books you need I will send them this
-> weekend I am sorry that I spaced them out I will get them to you asap
-> sorry for any inconvenience.Hey do you have any more adult cd's you
-> want to get rid of?

Great! Thanks for the prompt reply.Sorry,I just sold the last one...

                                 Diana


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From: WILL ADAMS                             Number: 11837
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94  3:08p
Subj: Triad computer systems                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

       Do you have a LOT of files stored away on disk? Do you have a
     lot of disks? Do you have files that you wouldn't want to lose?
     Does it take more than 10 minutes for you to find a file, even if
     you know what disk it's on?  Is your hard drive gasping for space?
     If so, Triad Computer Systems has the answer to your problems!
     Transfer 500 megs of files to a safe, dependable








       Transfer 350 1.44m disks or 400 1.2m disks or 700 720k disks or
     even 1,400 360k disks for $99.95 + shipping and handling. We can
     even transfer from QIC 80/40 format tapes or directly from your
     hard drive.  We can customize your CD-Rom to take bits and pieces
     from many different media, even from one or more CD-Roms, for an
     additional charge.

       Yes, that's up to 500+ megs of files YOU want, put on your own
     CD-Rom, and for a total cost that is less than 20 cents a meg! For
     more information or if you have any questions, give us a call at
     (813) 754-7623.

      Triad Computer Systems, the BEST solution to your storage problems


       Advantages of the Triad System:

         (1) Size of storage: 500+ megs of files all on one CD-Rom
     disk.  Thats 350 1.44's, 400 1.2's, 700 720's, 1400 360's, or 4
     120 meg tapes, all full!

         (2) Size of media: A single CD-Rom disk is about the size of a
     single 5.25 floppy, but takes the place of as many as 1,400!

         (3) Dependability of media: CD-Roms don't lose data over time.
     They aren't damaged by magnetic or electrical fields. They aren't
     damaged by dust, fingerprints, or spills. A CD-Rom won't wear out
     or lose data over time. No "sector not found" error on that very
     important disk that you MUST have.

         (4) Security of media: Your data can't become corrupted, or
     infected with a virus. A CD-Rom can't be accidently erased, or
     formatted.

         (5) Cost: A box of 10 HD 3.5 disks is $9.49, 10 DD 3.5 is
     $8.29, 10 HD 5.25 is $6.49, 10 DD 5.25 is $5.39, a 120/240 meg
     tape is $27.99 (unformatted) (All prices are from
     Staples/Workplace 11/13/93).  A 540 meg Hard Drive is $729.00!
     (Hard Drive Super Source, pp 577, Nov.  Computer Shopper) You get
     500+ megs of files transfered to CD-Rom for $99.95, AND you get
     your disks back.  It's like getting the disk for FREE!

         (6) Time: You can find and copy a file from a single CD-Rom
     faster than you can from a pile of disks, and a LOT quicker than
     from tape.

         (7) Protection of valuable files and investments: With the
     cost of new software always on the rise, it makes sense to have
     your archival copy of valuable programs and data on CD-Rom. You
     won't have to worry about your hard drive going down and not being
     able to find (or read) disk 3 of 17 of a program that cost you a
     lot of hard earned money.

         (8) Choice: YOU decide what you want put on the CD. Every
     file, gif or bit of data has been selected by the harshest critic
     alive, YOU!  Your CD-Rom, your files. What could be better?

      Triad Computer Systems, the BEST solution to your storage problems


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From: TIM CLUNE                              Number: 11838
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94  2:39p
Subj: CD ROM Changers?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

I'm new to this conference and am wondering if anyone is selling CD ROM
changers. If so, please reply with as much detail as possible about
their specs. Thanks.

Tim

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 11839
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94  9:54a
Subj: Comptons's Int Ency                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have (2) Comptons's Interactive Encyclopedia's for sale.  These are the
windows version 1.01VW.  My price is $35 + P&H.  reply back soon, I do not
think these will last very long!!!!!!!



Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: BEN SORSDAHL                           Number: 11840
  To: LEW MURRAY                               Date: 02/11/94 10:19p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Upgrade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Lew Murray to All <=-

 LM> I have a brand new double spin Mitsumi FX001.  I don't really need a
 LM> double spin drive so I'm willing to trade mine for a regular LU005
 LM> plus $80.  Any body out there wish they'd waited a little while to get
 LM> a double spin?   Call Lew at 504-888-8366


I would be glad to trade you. I just got my Mitsumi LU005 and would love to 
 trade up to the fx0007. call me at (204)885-4862 Ben Sorsdahl


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From: JIGER DESAI                            Number: 11841
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/10/94 10:57p
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I've got the following CD's for sale or trade for adult or regular ones
 
Southern Beauties - $30
 
Hidden Obsessions - $30
 
Local Girls, 3-in-1 disk $15
 
TSW MPC encyclopedia v 1.5 - $50
 
Rebel Assult - $37
 
Iron Helix - $45
 
Streets Atlas USA - $66   (I payed $130 at SAM'S)
 
Kings Quest 6, MPC - $17
 
Kama sutra - $29
 
----------------- - - - - - - - - --   -   --   --   ---  ----    - ----
non-cd-games-for sale or trade also
 
Ultima 7 - $27
 
Sherlock Holmes, the lost files - $27
 
Maxium OverKill Comache - $24
 
Space quest 1, VGA - $10
 
Day of the Tentacle - $33
 
Turbo Pascal 6.0, only have original disks - $10
 
About it, my # is 205-297-7406
But you probally woun't find me there, I'd between 11-12, 1/2 the cost on phone
bill. Just reply, call if you really need to...

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From: DAVID SHORT                            Number: 11842
  To: HAROLD HAYES                             Date: 02/10/94  8:40p
Subj: candid, no models                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 HH>   All we need, is the folks who put the disks together to see this
 HH> message.

 HH> ***** The request. Give us more candid/real/natural/gal next door
 HH> ******
 HH> ***** kinda shots. *******

 HH> They're cheaper too....No models or photographers to pay!


     Models are good to watch and hey those porm stars are definitely top of
the line for adult hardcore stuff, but nothing beats candid unexpected shots of
girls next door.  

Med Tech BBS  (804) 973-5639 14.4K 1+Gig Files, DOORs,  WME/Yankee Nets

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From: DAVID SHORT                            Number: 11843
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 02/10/94  8:42p
Subj: your kidding right?                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 DC> $700 was a good price for the 600A.  $500 is a good price for a used
 DC> one.

     Yeh, right.  When did you buy it, I can get them new for $550 simply by
looking at the phone much less what I could get if I scrooged my distributor
down a little.

Med Tech BBS  (804) 973-5639 14.4K 1+Gig Files, DOORs,  WME/Yankee Nets

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From: DAVID SHORT                            Number: 11844
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 02/10/94  8:45p
Subj: Re: Top Drawer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll give your system a call next week when I have some handy mulla.

Med Tech BBS  (804) 973-5639 14.4K 1+Gig Files, DOORs,  WME/Yankee Nets

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From: DAVID SHORT                            Number: 11845
  To: KORENE CLARK                             Date: 02/10/94  8:45p
Subj: Re: Pioneers                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     By faster do you mean the DRM 602 is a double or triple spin drive?

Med Tech BBS  (804) 973-5639 14.4K 1+Gig Files, DOORs,  WME/Yankee Nets

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From: DAVID SHORT                            Number: 11846
  To: DAN PROCIV                               Date: 02/10/94  9:02p
Subj: Re: !FREE ADULT CD CATALOG!             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     I would like one of those CDROM catalogs please.

                    Mail;     MedTech BBS
                              2403 Peyton Dr 210
                              Charlottesville, Va. 22901

                    Fax;      (703) 942-2153

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From: DAVID SHORT                            Number: 11847
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 02/10/94  9:05p
Subj: problems                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     Exactly what have your found or heard about v11 which may cause grief with
online use.  Please list them so I may protect my investment...

Med Tech BBS  (804) 973-5639 14.4K 1+Gig Files, DOORs,  WME/Yankee Nets

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 11848
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94 11:04p
Subj: Top Drawer Released!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                            Top Drawer 
                That's right a great ShareWare ROM 
                            for $19.00 
 
      Big Sky Rom's newest release, TopDrawer, is now shipping; 
      for you who have pre ordered, it's on its way. 
      Yeah, I know.  What kind of ROM am I getting for 19 
      bucks? 
 
                         ANSWER 
 
             Possibly the best ROM you have to date! 
 
      This ROM is published by SysOps for the SysOp.  Tired of 
      compiling list and heaven knows what else to get a ROM 
      online? 
 
      This is the answer you have been waiting for, affordable 
      files at this introductory price, to show what TopDrawer 
      is and can do. 
 
      Files.bbs in every DIR, so simple it can be run on a test 
      drive of QMODEM (tm). Plus SPITFIRE (tm) files SFFILES.BBS. 
      And you 4DOS (tm) users will find descript.ion files. 
      If you're a PC-BOARD(tm) SysOp, you'll find a comprehensive 
      SETMEUP.exe that will install the ROM for you! (...You do 
      have to have it in the CD-ROM player!) grin........ 
      All archives are compressed using pkzip (PKWARE (tm) 204G 
      using maximum compression. 
      All archives and their members have been scanned with the 
      latest virus scanners. 
 
      All files have file_id.diz's in them, GOOD ONE's, at that; 
      we added over 1,859 full descriptions when none were available 
      or the author thought that high ASCII looked better. 
 
      And on TOP of all that, we have made a great effort to remove 
      commercial files and other copyright infringements. 
      Now, what this means is that we set this ROM up for the BBS, 
      not the end user!!!! 
 
    We have, because of current legal cases and judgments within the 
    publishing community, removed VOC, WAVE, and MIDI sound files. The 
    real programs are still there; we just deleted the lawyer syndrome. 
    All of the GIF's are our own, no copyright infringements to worry 
    about. You are licensed as the ROM owner to distribute them to your 
    users. 
 
    There is also a feature authors DIR.  That's the authors we felt 
    exhibited professional demeanor in program ability and distribution 
    ease.  Plus, we have the text files that are the latest rage -- that 
    is, we have STEVE ROBERTS stuff, NOT Megabytes of FAQ's or other 
    drivel.  We have taken great pains to think of the user and the SysOp. 
    You will find your users cruising through this easy file system and 
    praising you for the setup (that is, if you have great users like we 
    do). 
 
    Both the SuperMart BBS and PC-MONTANA BBS have handicapped users, and 
    thought went into the files and their placement to enhance the interface 
    for these special individuals. 
    Ok, now to the brass tacks:  Files -- there are 4,174;that's 624 Mb + 
    uncompressed.  Dirs -- no, not 50 or 60, just 45 ; and this ROM will 
    interface with our first release, BIG SKY 01, so you don't have to do 
    a major setup all over again! 
 
  You've probably heard other SysOps saying that they're removing such and 
  such ROM offline because of one problem or another.  We listen to these 
  SysOps; you are our bread and butter (low cost spread in this ROM's price). 
 
  Now, where can I get this ROM?  Well, read the list and you can order this 
  baby online or by voice. 
 
          The COMPUTER WORKS  Data   1-205-671-0092 
                              Voice  1-205-793-4481 
 
          THE SUPERMART BBS   Data   1-406-586-3774 
                              Voice  1-406-586-8344 
 
          PC-MONTANA BBS      Data   1-406-284-3120  THE MOTHER BOARD for 
                                                     BIG SKY ROMs ! 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 11849
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94 11:02p
Subj: Misc CD-Rom Titles                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                        Computer Works CD-Rom Sales 
       Sale!               Miscellaneous Titles                 Sale! 
                            Limited Quantities 
 
The Animals - MPC           $20    King's Quest VI              $45 
Battle Chess Enhanced       $30    Mantis Experimental Fighter  $20 
ChessMaster 3000 - MPC      $22    Precision Mapping            $69 
Desktop Publisher's Dream   $32    Sherlock Holmes Cons Det I   $20 
Electronic Home Library     $28    Space Shuttle                $20 
Fantazia Fonts & Sounds     $24    Star Wars Chess - New!       $22 
Great Poetry Classics       $40    U.S. & World Atlas Pack      $20 
Grolier MPC Encyclopedia 1  $40 
 
Computer Works         (205) 793-4481 Voice           Online Orders 
 CD-Rom Sales           (205) 671-0092 BBS           Visa & Mastercard 
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From: EDDIE IMPERIAL                         Number: 11850
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/10/94 10:05p
Subj: Cd Trades!                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a couple of CD'S trade or forsale.... listed below!

1. XXX Extr (has scratch) Most pics work fine.
   $15.00
2. Digital Dreams 1
   $23.00
3. Swimware 93
   $20.00
4. Giffy Gold
   $24.00
5. Amature Models
   $25.00

Only adult or swimware disks wanted. No Full Motion.


                                       Eddie
                                       713-437-0124 H
                                       713-618-3739 P


... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: JEFF NEWMAN                            Number: 11851
  To: THOMAS MENG                              Date: 02/11/94  3:28a
Subj: Re: CD'S 4-Sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 TM>   I think I have BB II sold. If you still want the first
 TM> version I'll sell that one for $75.00 and pickup the
 TM> shipping. I'd rather you sent me a money order instead of
 TM> COD. If thats ok send along your phone # and we can work
 TM> out the details...

 Tom, Call me at 504 282 - 7096 after 6:00pm CST. If it is BB 1 vol 1.
 I am interested. Specifically, what logos does it have on it?, what
 date is on the disk? , and how many files are in subdirectory xstory1?

 ... Virus 'writers', what a waste of a human body

-Jeff NOPCCCC

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From: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                       Number: 11852
  To: ALAN EVANS                               Date: 02/10/94  7:06p
Subj: ShareWare OnLine #3 Preorders           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Alan!

In a message to All <02/08/94> Alan Evans wrote:

AE> This new disc will contain over 600 MEGS of new software.  NO
AE> PROGRAMS INCLUDED ON THIS VERSION WILL BE OLDER THAN 08-01-1994!
AE> No other shareware CD can make that claim.  Over 600 MEGS of

Of course not, how could they claim that.  You did, which is
impossible! <g>

AE> Your complete satisfaction is GUARANTEED with ShareWare OnLine
AE> #3. Approximate ship date is 03-01-94 or sooner.

Or is it that you are accepting preoders for a disk that won't be
available for 6 months? <g>

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From: RON YOUNG                              Number: 11853
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 02/09/94  9:55p
Subj: Re: $125 SCSI CD-ROM PLAYER             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message dated 07-Feb-94 23:18:00, Ismail Arslangiray wrote:

 IA> >>Toshiba 3101 Internal SCSI drives $125

Are these new drives?  What is the warranty on these...

Ron Young

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From: JOHN VAN HARE                          Number: 11854
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 02/10/94 11:53p
Subj: Re: Storm ii                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DK> All I have left is Storm II and one guy *might* buy it,if he doesn't you ca
DK> have it for $25(S&H inc).
DK>  Let me know,
DK> 
DK> 
DK>                    Diana
Yes, still want it, don't know if you got my last message.  Where should I 
send the money, or can I voice you?

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From: RON YOUNG                              Number: 11855
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 02/11/94  6:06a
Subj: Ecstasy hot pic's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message dated 08-Feb-94 13:47:00, Diana Kirksey wrote:

 DK>  I just wanted to let you know I sent your CD out today(2/8) so you should
 DK> be receiving it shortly...

Thanks for the note.  Will be looking for it...

Ron Young

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From: ROB MARREEL                            Number: 11856
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/10/94  3:30p
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Well what I was getting at was the actual Cd-rom I already think i have
picked the Cd I want it is nightowl 11...$30 do you have a better price
??? First I need to get the Cd-rom!!


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 11857
  To: PAUL DIESTELHORST                        Date: 02/11/94  3:48p
Subj: Pioneer DRM-640X                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PD> Can any of you dealers give me a good price on a Pioneer DRM-640x with
 PD>  interface kit. Would like to purchase one real soon.
 
We sell the 604X for $1,149 with 8 bit interface kit or $1,119 (cash).
Give us a call at 615-339-0235 if interested.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 11858
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/11/94  3:51p
Subj: Night Owl version 11 !!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 MS> constantly being recalled and/or recut.  Furthermore, I think your
 MS> statement about "NO problems" with ver. 11, is a 
 MS> bit exaggerated.  Would
 MS> you care to set the record straight as to whether version 11 was
 MS> re-pressed, and if so why?  I'm really not trying to hurt Night Owl's
 
Ask about the Disney pictures <g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 11859
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94  3:53p
Subj: Best New $19 SHAREWARE CDROM            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

           That's right a great SHAREWARE ROM
                   for ONLY $19.00
 
Big Sky Rom's newest release, TopDrawer, is now shipping.
For you who have pre-ordered, your's is on the way. Yeah,
I know.  What kind of ROM could I be getting for 19 bucks?
 
                       ANSWER
 
        Possibly the best ROM you have to date!
 
This ROM is published by SysOps for the SysOp.  Tired of
compiling list and heaven knows what else to get a ROM
on-line?
 
This is the answer you have been waiting for, affordable
files at this introductory price, to show what TopDrawer
is and can do.
 
Files.bbs in every DIR, so simple it can be run on a test
drive of QMODEM (tm). Plus SPITFIRE (tm) files SFFILES.BBS.
And you 4DOS (tm) users will find descript.ion files.
If you're a PC-BOARD(tm) SysOp, you'll find a comprehensive
SETMEUP.exe that will install the ROM for you! (...You do
have to have it in the CD-ROM player!) grin........
All archives are compressed using pkzip (PKWARE (tm) 204G
using maximum compression.
All archives and their members have been scanned with the
latest virus scanners.
 
All files have file_id.diz's in them, GOOD ONE's, at that;
we added over 1,859 full descriptions when none were available
or the author thought that high ASCII looked better.
 
And on TOP of all that, we have made a great effort to remove
commercial files and other copyright infringements.
Now, what this means is that we set this ROM up for the BBS,
not the end user!!!!
 
We have, because of current legal cases and judgments within the
publishing community, removed VOC, WAVE, and MIDI sound files. The
real programs are still there; we just deleted the lawyer syndrome.
All of the GIF's are our own, no copyright infringements to worry
about. You are licensed as the ROM owner to distribute them to your
users.  Disnay has started bringing lawsuits against the publisher's
who have any of their pictures on their CDs and many of the latest
have them.  Warner will be bringing lawsuits against the publisher's
that have Startrek sound and picture files and many of the latest
shareware CDs have those.  So, Buyers and Sellers Beware!
 
There is also a feature authors DIR.  That's the authors we felt
exhibited professional demeanor in program ability and distribution
ease.  Plus, we have the text files that are the latest rage -- that
is, we have STEVE ROBERTS stuff, NOT Megabytes of FAQ's or other
drivel. We have taken great pains to think of the user and the SysOp.
You will find your users cruising through this easy file system and
praising you for the setup (that is, if you have great users like we
do).
 
Both the SuperMart BBS and PC-MONTANA BBS have handicapped users,
and thought went into the files and their placement to enhance the
interface for these special individuals.
 
Ok, now to the brass tacks:  Files -- there are 4,174;that's 609 MB +
compressed.  Dirs -- no, not 50 or 60, just 45 ; and this ROM will
interface with our first release, BIG SKY 01, so you don't have to do
a major setup all over again!
 
You've probably heard other SysOps saying that they're removing such &
such ROM offline because of one problem or another. We listen to these
SysOps; you are our bread and butter (low cost spread in this ROM's price).
 
Now, where can I get this ROM?  Well, read below and you can order
this baby on-line or by fax (24 hours) or by voice (9-9 EST Mon-Sat).
 
*** PCJ COMPUTING ***   Data  -  1-615-478-2890   We stock 700+ titles
  All major credit      Fax   -  1-615-479-1047   Lowest prices around
  cards accepted        Voice -  1-615-339-0235   Download BIGSKY2.ZIP
  with no surcharge     Orders-  1-800-547-7817   for the files list.
  (No CODs)           Internet-  Douglas.Carpenter@Junction.Cld9.Com
                      Listserv-  Send request to Listserv@Cld9.Com
                                 Send SUB CDROM-L NAME
                     Compuserve-  71754.3514@Compuserve.Com
                      **  DEALER INQUIRIES WELCOME **
 
File stats for the BEST NEW SHAREWARE CD-TOP DRAWER for 1990 to 1994:
    File   %    Apx  'K'   %            File   %    Apx 'K'    %
    ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== =====
90     0  0.0%         0  0.0%    91       1  0.0%       100  0.0%
92     6  0.1%     2,380  0.4%    93   3,968 95.1%   558,536 91.6%
94   144  4.8%    48,607  8.0%          ==== =====  ======== =====
----  Total Files:  4,174   Total Approx 'K' Bytes:  609,523  ----
Duplicate Files Comparison - Top Drawer versus other popular CDs:
 
Big Sky 1 - 0%                  So Much Shareware # 3 - 2.4%
Cream of the Crop # 2 - 11.7%   Software Vault Gold (# 3) - 10.3%
Nightowl 10 - 12.4%             Call PCJ at 615-339-0235 if you
Nightowl 11 - 6.4%              need a file comparison with any

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From: ED STILSON                             Number: 11860
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/10/94  9:53p
Subj: cd rom titles                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Now in the Buckeye State!!!!!! InfoTech Computer Services has C-D Rom
software. Best deals around!
                     InfoTech Computer Services
                     270 W. Hunter St.
                     Logan, OH 43138-1516
                     Phone: (614) 385-8829
                     Support BBS: (614) 385-0582

Over 300 CD ROM titles to choose from.
Buckeye Bandit

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From: RICHARD MCNULTY                        Number: 11861
  To: LEW MURRAY                               Date: 02/10/94 11:07a
Subj: Mitsumi Upgrade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LM-->Anyone wishing to trade in their single spin, out of warranty, Mitsumi
LM-->LU005 + cash for a brand new, one year warrranty double spin Mistumi
LM-->FX001 drive, contact Lew at 504-888-8366 or leave me a message on this
LM-->echo with your phone number.

OK..I'll bite.  What's the details.  I just had an old Mitsumi decide
that it no longer wants to work.  Does it count in this offer?

Richard


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From: BRIAN WILLCOTT                         Number: 11862
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94  2:00p
Subj: Shareware Disk                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello, everyon, I got a CD-rom shareware disk (So much Shareware 2) And I
found out I have that one already......
(long story)
So is there anyone out there, that would buy it, or trade it for another
cd-rom disk.....
->leave me a message here.<-
->brian<-

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From: SCOTT STURGILL                         Number: 11863
  To: MIKE STEFFEN                             Date: 02/10/94  7:49a
Subj: Adult cd's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I recieved it on Tuesday.  Thanks Again.  If there is anything else you would
like to trade, just let me know.
        Scott


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From: SCOTT STURGILL                         Number: 11864
  To: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                        Date: 02/10/94  9:26a
Subj: adult cd's trade/sell                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am Interested in trading for your adult Cd's. I have the following to
Offer. All of these are on Cd Rom.

1) Stellar 7
2) Microsoft Works
3) Cd Deluxe Pack (ChessMaster 3000,Us Atlas,World Atlas,Mavis Beacon)
4) MacroMedia (Action & ClipMedia)
5) 1993 Guiness Book Of Records
6) National Parks
7) Complete Adventures by deep River Publishing
8) Test Drive for Windows (Thousands of Utilities and Programs)

All of the following have documentation except for the test drive for
windows Cd.  It did not come with any.  I am willing to trade any of
these for your adult Cd's.  Let me know if you are interested and let me
know which adult disks that you have left.  E-mail me and leave your
phone number and I will get in touch with you about shipping
arrangements.
    Thanks
         Scott


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From: SCOTT STURGILL                         Number: 11865
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/10/94  9:43a
Subj: Adult Cd's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for some adult Cd Rom Disks.  I am interested in trading
what I have for them.  I already have the adult disks Physical Thearapy
and the Adult Picture Library.  Here Is a list of the Cd Rom Disks I
have to Offer in a trade.

1) Stellar 7
2) MicroSoft Works
3) Cd Deluxe Pack (ChessMaster 3000,Us Atlas,World Atlas,Mavis Beacon)
4) MacroMedia (Action & Clipmedia) Make Presentations and View Clip Art
5) 1993 Guinness Book Of Records
6) National Parks
7) Complete Adventures by Deep River Publishing
8) Test Drive for Windows (Thousands of programs and Utilities for Win)

All of the Following have documentation except for the test drive for
windows that did not come with any.  If anyone is interested in trading
Please leave me email and let me know for which adult disk they would
like to trade for along with what it contains, Example (# of
Gifs'Gl's,dl's,Text,etc...).  Also leave me your phone number so I can
get in touch with you and make arrangements on shipping.
    Thanks
         Scott


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From: PHILIP BROWN                           Number: 11866
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/10/94 10:18p
Subj: Super CD Disc Savings                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Flaming Star Computer Accessories  *  A Division of Brown Business Software
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Please check the disc you would like and how many.

[  ]    ShareWare OnLine 2     $20.00 4,500 PROGRAMS, ALL 93, NO JUNK! 
                                     625 MEGS, BBS READY, 30 DAY M.B.G.

[  ]    GameWare Collection    $22.00 6,500 GAMES! CARDS, BOARD, CGA-SVGA, 
                                     SB SHOOT'EM UPS, TEXT, MORE! REPRESSED

[  ]    SoundWare Collection   $22.00 10,000 MUSIC/SOUND FILES! .CMF, .CMS, 
                                     .MID, .MOD, .ROL, .SND, .VOC, & .WAV

[  ]    User's Choice Windows  $32.00 Windows CD with Fonts, tools and more 
                                     BBS READY! 5,500+ FILES! <> OCT 19 

[  ]    GameWare/SoundWare     $40.00 (BEST GAME AND SOUND/MUSIC DISCS!)

[  ]    SWOL #2/SoundWare      $35.00 (BEST 93 SHAREWARE AND SOUND/MUSIC)

Plus $4.00 Shipping and Handling per CD

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Flaming Star Computer Accessories
A Division of Brown Business Software
20 West Sutliff Drive
Terre Haute, Indiana  47802
Data:812-898-2561 - The Flaming Star BBS
===============================================================================

Method Of Payment: (Only Circle One)   CHECK   MONEY ORDER   CASHIER'S CHECK

NOTE:If Paying By Check, Please Allow 2 - 3 Weeks For Processing

Make Payable to: BROWN BUSINESS SOFTWARE

IF PAYING BY CHECK PLEASE COMPLETE THE FOLLOWING:
 
Name on Check___________________________________
 
Address (NO P.O. Box)___________________________
 
SHIP TO:
 
Name____________________________________________
 
Address_________________________________________
 
City_________________ State ________ Zip________
 
Phone (   ) ____________________________________
 

Drop me a line if interested...   

Thanks, 

Philip Brown
Flaming Star Computer Accessories 

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From: HOWARD ONEIL                           Number: 11867
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/07/94  3:39a
Subj: Re: $125 SCSI CD-ROM PLAYER             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Brice :
 
  If you still have any Toshiba 3101 SCSI CDROMS I'd like to get one. 
Is this price NEW or USED?  I'll need your address and a TOTAL for shipping
costs, and will be sending a Money Order for IMMEDIATE shipment.
 
  These work, don't they?  Oh, are any special drivers required to 
use them on an Adaptec 1522 SCSI-2 controller?
 
Thanks!  Reply soon, wan't to get by next Friday.
 
Howard O


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From: BRIAN MEDLEY                           Number: 11868
  To: DAVID FALKNER                            Date: 01/23/94  8:02p
Subj: Hello!                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey David!  Just wondering if I got this Offline Mail Reader working...
Please reply if you get this message.

                                 Brian Medley

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From: JACK BROWN                             Number: 11869
  To: DAN PROCIV                               Date: 02/10/94  1:26a
Subj: !free adult cd catalog!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DPFor the Largest Adult CDrom Catalog Available just send us your mailing

Please send a copy to me at:  P.O. Box 19825
                              Portland, OR  97219
===
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From: ROSE CITY                              Number: 11870
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/09/94  8:53p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

rz
**
  B0000000000000
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
   ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
  Visa, Mastercard Accepted!

  Pacific Data Graphics Inc.

 *    W O R L D      W I D E      S H I P P I N G    *

     Adult Titles (Must state age 18+)
     ---------------------------------
 Adult Reference Library ......31.00    Moving Fantasies..............39
 After Dark Trilogy (Movie)....45.00    Mystique of the Orient (Mov)..46
 All Beauties (New!)...........39.00    Nightwatch Interactive (Mov)..48
 Amateur Models (New!).........39.00    PC-PIX 1......................39
 Animation Fantasies 1.........39.00    PC-PIX 2......................39
 Animation Fantasies 2.........39.00    Phone Sex (WAV recordings)....29
 Asian Ladies..................39.00    Adult Sampler.................19
 Betrayal (Movie)..............55.00    Physical Therapy..............29
 Busty Babes vol 1 rel 3.......44.00    Porkware 1....................39
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......39.00    Porkware 2....................39
 Debbie Does Dallas (Movie)....49.00    Private Collection 1..........39
 Deep Throat (Movie)...........49.00    Private Collection 2..........39
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......51.00    Private Pictures..............39
 Digital Dreams................39.00
 Dirty Talk (Movie)............45.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........39
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............39.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc..........49
 Erotic Encounters 1...........39.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........59
 Erotic Encounters 2 (New!)....39.00    Seymore Butts Interactive (M).59
 Extreme Delights (New!).......39.00    Smutware......................39
 Giffy Gold....................39.00    So Much Stareware.............39
 Girls of Vivid 1 (New!).......49.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......39
 Girls of Vivid 2 (New!).......49.00    Storm 1.......................39
 Hidden Obsessions (Movie).....52.00    Storm 3.......................39
 High Volume Nudes (New!)......39.00    Super Smutware (New!).........39
 Hot Pix 2.....................39.00    Storm 2.......................39
 Hot Pix 3.....................39.00    T&A 2 the Maxx................39
 Hot Pix 4.....................39.00    Total Fantasy (New!)..........39
 Hot Pix 5.....................39.00    Visual Fantasies..............39
 Kama Sutra (Movie)............49.00    Volcano.......................39
 Lovely Ladies II..............39.00    Wild Women (New!).............39
 Luscious Ladies (New!)........39.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29

 101 Sex Positions 1...........45.00    Best of Vivid (Movie).........49
 101 Sex Positions 2...........45.00    Bustin Out! (Movie)...........49
 Cat & Mouse (Movie)...........55.00    FAO 3 Disk Set................69
 Foxes.........................39.00    Gay World 1..(Gay)............49
 Gay World 2......(Gay)........49.00    GBL (Gay,Bi,Lesbian)..........39
 Girls of J. Stephen Hicks.....40.00    Girls of Vivid 2..............49
 Glamour Girls 1943............59.00    Hot Hunks......(Gay)..........49
 House of Dreams (Movie).......52.00    House of Sleeping Beauties....49
 King Dong (Movie).............52.00    L.A. Strippers (Movie)........49
 Legends of Porn (Movie).......49.00    Lovely Ladies 2...............41
 Manpower....(Gay).............49.00    My First Time (Movie).........48
 NixPix Hot Pix 1..............OUT!!    Paradise Club (Movie).........56
 Pixure Rom 1..................39.00    Pixure Rom 2..................39
 Pixure Rom 3..................39.00    Pixure Rom Triple Exposure...102
 Q69...........................36.00    Secrets (Movie)...............44
Tranz...(Chicks with Dicks)...39.00
 Wicked (Kodak Photo CD).......53.00    Wicked (Movie)................55

  Many New Adult titles Not listed, Call Our '24'Hr. BBS for the Latest
  Catalog: Or call 1-503-257-7255  for Help, Questions:

------------------------------------------------------------------------
 INFO/ORDERS..........503-257-7255..24hrs   World Wide Shipping Via
 BBS (Line 1) ........503-257-7264..24hrs   Federal Express: Call Our BB
 BBS (Line 2).........503-257-7341..24hrs   For our Huge Catalog of Over
 ORDERS ONLY!       1-800-400-7255..24hrs   * 1100 * Titles,and Descript
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Visa, Mastercard, Check, Money Orders Accepted:
Shipping is: $6.00 for up to '5' Cd's (2lbs).  (U.S.A. Only)
International Orders Please Include $12.00 for up to '5' Cd's
for Shipping:

     *************  Call 1-800-400-7255 *************
For your ORDER Today:

**********************************************************
P.S. Look for Our New ADULT CD-Rom Disk to be Out Soon:
Over '3000' Original Gif's, NEVER Seen Anywhere Before:
File.BBS Descriptions, NO BBS Adds! All Orginal From 640x480 to 1024x768
All European Women:     (At a Dealer Near You)
***********************************************************

       (c) 1994  Pacific Data Graphics Inc.
       We are not Affiliated with any other Cd-Rom Company




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From: SID SANDIFER                           Number: 11871
  To: SAM BECKWITH                             Date: 02/11/94  6:57p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sam, need some info on the following CD's
-> Holy Bible CD-ROM..........................................  $17.00
-> King James Bible (Boxed)...................................  $23.00
 
Do these CD's run under DOS or Windows? What I am looking for is KJV in
ascii text form that will run under DOS.
 Would appreciate some info on these two.....

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From: ERIC HO                                Number: 11872
  To: DEALERS IN EUROPE                        Date: 02/10/94  1:36a
Subj: Dr. CD-ROMs                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We are looking for dealers in Europe.....

        * Dr. Windows II         -   500+ MB of Windows shareware
        * Dr. Games for Windows  -   180+ ready to play games 4 Windows
        * Dr. Games for DOS      -   60+ ready to play games 4 DOS
        * Dr. Shareware II       -   640+ MB of latest shareware
        * Dr. Fonts for Windows  -   2000+ True Type fonts 4 Windows
        * Dr. Cliparts           -   3000+ Clipart files w/TIFF, PCX & GIF
        * Dr. OS/2 Gold          -   OS/2 shareware. Dated in Jan. 1994
        * Dr. Music Lab          -   Hundreds of sample music + utilities
        * Dr. Communication      -   Utilities for LAN, BBS, protocols
        * Dr. Graphics           -   Images, Converters, Utilities
        * Dr. Reference          -   Programmer's guide for A to Z

        Above titles are shareware
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        * Sound Factory I    -   Professional MID, WAV files
                                 Playable from regular CD player
                                 Special sound effects
                                 Best choice for bundling with Sound Card
        * Sound Factory II   -   Version 2

        * AVI Library        -   Professional video clip for "Video for Win"

        Abvove titles are commercial software

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Call 408-748-9988x18 for more detail     (Best resource for CD titles)

Voice : 408-748-9988
Fax   : 408-748-9989
BBS   : 408-453-6250
Fido  : 1:143/88

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 11873
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/09/94  8:31a
Subj: Cream of The Crop 2                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hi Mike,   I would like to puchase Cream of the crop II,  but I haave just one
question,  do you have COD available to Canada,  if not,  why?
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 11874
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94 11:38p
Subj: ShareWare OnLine #3 Preorders           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    !!! NOW ACCEPTING PREORDERS !!! 
 
ShareWare OnLine 3 will soon be released!  We are now accepting 
preorders.  The preorder price is $34.95 and as always you get 
FREE shipping to your door for preordering.  Registered users of 
ShareWare OnLine will be receiving your special order 
instructions by mail soon. 
 
This new disc will contain over 600 MEGS of new software.  NO 
PROGRAMS INCLUDED ON THIS VERSION WILL BE OLDER THAN 08-01-1994! 
No other shareware CD can make that claim.  Over 600 MEGS of 
fresh files.  Many programs come directly from the author. 
 
The CD will be fully BBS ready with full multi-line file 
descriptions.  A master directory of BBS file descriptions will 
be included as well as description index files in each directory. 
 
We have updated our retrieval software to run faster and install 
easier.  You may tag, copy, view, unzip, and view pictures 
directly from the retrieval software. 
 
You may preorder your disc by telephone or send your order by 
mail to the address listed below.  Credit cards and checks are 
not cashed until we ship. 
 
Your complete satisfaction is GUARANTEED with ShareWare OnLine 
#3. Approximate ship date is 03-01-94 or sooner. 
 
Authors: You still have time to get your programs to CMS for 
review and possible distribution.  Send all software with a 
simple program description to the address listed below. 
Accepting until 02-18-94. 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN   47878 
Orders Only: 800-768-7929     Information: 812-442-0110 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 11875
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94 11:38p
Subj: CD-ROM Bundles                          Refer: NONE
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Look below for some great CD-ROM Software Bundles from CMS. 
All discs are IN STOCK ready for shipment. 
 
               ***** SINGLE CD PRICING ***** 
 
     600+ MEG Shareware CD only $5.95 with any purchase. 
 
Software Tool Chest - $34.95   Digital Delights (2-19) - $35.00 
ShareWare OnLine #2 - $29.95   Adult Reference Library - $37.95 
GameWare Collection - $24.95   SoundWare Collection    - $29.95 
Storm-2 Adult       - $22.95   ShareWare OnLine #3     - $34.95 (3-01) 
User's Choice Windows $29.95   A.P.L. Adult            - $37.95 
Ultimate Erotica    - $37.95   Futura Games            - $14.95 
Digital Dreams 1    - $24.95   Swimwear 93             - $19.95 
Digital Dreams 2    - $28.95   Software Treasure Chest - $24.95 
 
              ***** BUNDLED CD PRICING ***** 
 
User's Choice Windows          SoundWare Collection 
ShareWare OnLine #2            GameWare Collection 
Software Treasure Chest        ShareWare OnLine #2 
    $49.95                         $49.95 
 
ShareWare OnLine #2            Digital Dreams #2 
SoundWare Collection           A.P.L. Adult 
GameWare Collection            Adult Reference Library 
User's Choice Windows          Digital Dreams #1 
Software Treasure Chest        Storm-2 Adult 
Software Tool Chest            Digital Delights 
    $139.95                      $149.95 
 
                               User's Choice Windows 
Software Treasure Chest        ShareWare OnLine #2 
ShareWare OnLine #2            A.P.L. Adult 
    $39.95                     Storm-2 
                                   $74.95 
 
Storm-2 Adult                  Storm-2 Adult 
A.P.L. Adult                   Adult Reference Library 
    $49.95                     A.P.L. Adult 
                                   $59.95 
 
Adult Reference Library        A.P.L. Adult 
Storm-2 Adult                  Adult Reference Library 
Digital Dreams #2                  $54.95 
    $69.95 
                               ShareWare OnLine #2 
A.P.L./User's Choice           A.P.L. Adult 
    $44.95                         $44.95 
 
CMS accepts Visa & Mastercard, check, M.O., and COD orders. 
$5.00 standard shipping on any order.  These prices are in 
effect for a short time only.  Get your orders sent TODAY! 
CMS does accept your trades!  PUBLISHERS: Call us to trade 
your titles for ours!  Last updated: 02-06-1994. 
 
    CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
                TELEPHONE: 812-442-0110 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 11876
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94 11:38p
Subj: Software Tool Chest Now Shipping        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     !!! NEW TITLE FROM CMS SOFTWARE !!! 
 
We are now shipping our all new utility disc.  Look below for a 
sample of what this disc contains.  If you wish to download the 
final description lists call the CMS Support BBS at 812-898-2561 
anytime 24 hours.  HST 14.4 online.  Look in file area #3 for 
TOOL.ZIP.  Available first call. 
 
This disc will include literally thousands of utility programs for 
just about every use you can think of.  No other collection comes 
even close this fabulous new collection.  You will find DOS and 
Windows utilities alike.  The ENTIRE LINUX operating system is 
also included on this disc.  Hundreds of programs for OS/2 are 
included.  If you have been looking for a source for networking 
software look no further.  Two full directories dedicated to 
networking.  Two directories of graphics utility programs. 
Virus protection programs are also included.  MOD music editing 
programs and music and sound players and programs.  Utilities 
for your printer and hundreds of communications and BBS utilities 
plus SO MUCH MORE. 
 
You ask why should I buy this disc?  This disc offers several 
special features not found anywhere else.  First and most im- 
portant this is the LARGEST collection of utilities you will 
find.  The disc is fully BBS ready with file descriptions in 
five formats so you will most likely be able to find a format 
suited for your needs.  If not just call us and we will convert 
one to your format.  Excellent custom file retrieval software is 
also included for the end users.  This software is very user 
friendly.  All menu driven.  Just type GO COLOR or GO MONO to 
start.  This software allows the user to tag, copy, view, unZIP, 
and even view graphics without installing them to your hard 
drive.  Preview contents or graphics before installing.  Program 
dates all the way up until December 1993.  No files are older 
than 1991. 
 
Thanks to all who preordered.  You will be recieving your disc 
withing a few days.  Only $34.95. 
 
 CMS SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
BBS: 812-898-2561  Questions: 812-442-0110  Orders: 800-768-7929 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 11877
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94 11:38p
Subj: New adult CD-ROMs. Preorder today!      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We are now accepting preorders for the all new BBS ready adult 
title from Gibson Publishing.  As always you get FREE shipping 
 for preordering.  For the dealers we also have dealer pricing 
available for this new title.  Call for information. 
 
               Digital Delights    (02-22-94) 
 
"Digital Delights" is an excellent collection of new adult 
pictures and fantasy text files.  Over 500 MEGABYTES of GIF 
pictures are included.  Many are 1024 X 768 resolution.  Over 
400 fantasy text files are also included.  These text files 
are readable directly from the CD-ROM with no viewer needed. 
A viewer for the GIF pictures is also included.  No need to 
install anything to your hard disk!  This disc is fully BBS 
ready with multi-line file descriptions in several formats 
for use on virtually every type of BBS software used today! 
No BBS ads in any of the pictures.  All new for 94!  Must be 
age 21+ to purchase this disc.  $35.00. 
 
Visa, Mastercard, check, money order, and COD orders accepted. 
Credit cards and personal checks are not charged until we ship. 
 
    Preorder both ShareWare OnLine #3 and Digital Delights 
                       for only $59.95. 
 
    Adult Reference Library, Ultimate Erotica, D.D. $79.95 
 
       A.P.L., Ultimate Erotica, Storm-2, D.D.  $114.95 
 
      650+ MEG shareware CD only $5.95 with any purchase! 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN 47878  812-442-0110 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 11878
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94 11:38p
Subj: A.P.L. Adult CD-ROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                        The A.P.L. CD-ROM! 
 
The APL or Adult Picture Library is now available!  This CD-ROM 
is EXPLODING with 689 of R and X rated adult .GIF pictures, .GL 
movies, .DL movies, and .FLI animation!  All 100% high resolution 
pictures only around 12 pictures less than 100,000 bytes in size! 
This disc contains the following: 
 
                       3,112 .GIF Pictures 
                          84 .FLI Movies 
                         168 .GL Movies 
                          90 .DL Movies 
 
+ many programs and graphics viewing software for a GIANT 689 
MEG 100% PREMIUM QUALITY collection.  Pick up your copy today! 
 
       Now shipping.  $37.95 + $5.00 standard shipping. 
 
---== Get them now folks. We are almost out and when they are 
      gone they are gone.  No reorders.  Order now. ==--- 
 
Get ShareWare OnLine #2 or User's Choice Windows for only $14.95 
               with the purchase of the A.P.L. 
 
   Mastercard, Visa, personal check, company check, money 
            order or cash COD orders are accepted. 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878   812-442-0110 
 
           A.P.L./Adult Reference Library - $59.95 
                A.P.L./Storm-2  Adult - $49.95 
                A.P.L./Super Smutware - $59.95 
              A.P.L./Nova Adult 1 or 2 - $59.95 
 
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From: FRANK SALAMONE                         Number: 11879
  To: BEN CHAVEZ                               Date: 02/11/94  4:50p
Subj: Putzes                                  Refer: NONE
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putz, 
whatz up? i have something to tell you! no i dont
no i dont
no i dont
no i dont
no i dont
ben is a putz
ben is a putz
ben is a putz
ben is a putz!!!1

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From: BEN CHAVEZ                             Number: 11880
  To: FRANK SALAMONE                           Date: 02/11/94  6:55p
Subj: Putzes                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

you are the biggest putz I have ever met, not even that pearce kid was as big a
putz as you are.  You Stink Really Bad.  gopo fopucopkop kopimop orop
kopeloplopie.  I know you want to too.  Well, I don't wanna waste my time
writing you these dum things, so Adios.
Ben Chavez


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From: FRANK SALAMONE                         Number: 11881
  To: BEN CHAVEZ                               Date: 02/11/94  7:38p
Subj: Putzes                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

you noyou stink. i'm out of time so c-ya putz, adios!



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From: ANTHONY MOREY                          Number: 11882
  To: AUDIE VICKERS                            Date: 02/12/94 12:15a
Subj: PC-Sig CD                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll give you $5 for it, split shipping


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From: SAM GOH                                Number: 11883
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/12/94  3:56a
Subj: MIDI CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dear All,
Am looking for a *good* MIDI and/or MOD CD.... Some prices, reviews,
recommendations would be greatly appreciated....  thanks....
Sam

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From: MICHAEL BLITCH                         Number: 11884
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94  4:59p
Subj: Used & NEW CDs                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for used(maybe new) adult CD-Roms. They must have XXX
format(meaning I don't want any full of R's). I have any of the items
below for trade or sale. All items have origional docs, disks, & boxes.
I will consider any trade and will accept 2 for 1 trades(two of my stuff
for your one). I am getting rid of these because of already solving them
all. I am especially interested in getting any of these : storm series,
Fao series, Flame, Forbidden Subjects, or T&A to the Maxx.

CD-Roms...

Dracula Unleashed
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
Star Wars Chess (for Windows)
Day of the Tentacle (Enhanced)
Mad Dog McCree
Star Trek: 25th Anniversary (Enhanced)
Man Enough (2 CD set)
Rebel Assault (NEW! Package still shrink-wrapped!!!)
Return of the Phantom/ F-117A (one CD set)
Dinosaur Adventure/ Space Adventure (one CD set)
Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia ver 1.01VW (1992) [shrink-wrapped]

 Software
Mortal Kombat                      PC-DOS 6.1
Leisure Suit Larry 5               Pirates! Gold
Kings Quest 5                      Matrix Cubed
Alone in the Dark                  Caveman Ugh-lympics
Star Trek: Judgement Rites         Wing Commander II
Strike Commander                   Spear of Destnity(commercial version)
X-Wing                             A-Train
Imperial Assault (X-wing expansion disk)
B-wing (X-wing expansion disk)
        Windows Software
Lotus 1-2-3 for Windows (entire package unopened)
Ami Pro for Windows (entire package unopened)
WinRix DCS

  Hardware
Soundblaster Deluxe
generic 2400 modem

  Books
X-wing Stragety Guide
Strike Commander Playtesters Guide
Total 1-2-3 release 3
Leisure Suit Larry 5 Hint Book
King's Quest 5 Hint Book
Star Trek: 25th Anniversary Hint Book

Please reply here if interested or netmail me. I can be reached at 1853
Capri Dr, chas, sc, 29407.

 <Mike>
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From: MICHAEL BLITCH                         Number: 11885
  To: BILL LUSCOMBE                            Date: 02/07/94  5:06p
Subj: COMPTON'S INT ENCY                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia version 1.01VW (1992) if you
are still interested. It is still shrink-wrapped.

 <Mike>
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From: MICHAEL BLITCH                         Number: 11886
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 02/07/94  5:29p
Subj: STORM II & III                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SR> > Hello!
SR> >  I still have for sale or trade Storm II & III.
SR> > Anyone interested,leave me mail.

SR> > Thanks,

SR> >                       Diana

Would you like to trade for any of these CD-Roms?

Dracula Unleashed
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
Star Wars Chess (for Windows)
Day of the Tentacle (Enhanced)
Mad Dog McCree
Star Trek: 25th Anniversary (Enhanced)
Man Enough (2 CD set)
Rebel Assault (NEW! Package still shrink-wrapped!!!)
Return of the Phantom/ F-117A (one CD set)
Dinosaur Adventure/ Space Adventure (one CD set)
Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia ver 1.01VW (1992) [shrink-wrapped]

 If interested, please reply.

 Michael J. Blitch II
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From: MICHAEL BLITCH                         Number: 11887
  To: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                        Date: 02/07/94  5:37p
Subj: ADULT CD'S TRADE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I ahve the following CDs I will love to trade you for any of these. I'm
especially interested in the Storm disks.

CD-Roms...

Dracula Unleashed
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
Day of the Tentacle (Enhanced)
Mad Dog McCree
Star Trek: 25th Anniversary (Enhanced)
Man Enough (2 CD set)
Rebel Assault (NEW! Package still shrink-wrapped!!!)
Return of the Phantom/ F-117A (one CD set)
Dinosaur Adventure/ Space Adventure (one CD set)
Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia ver 1.01VW (1992) [shrink-wrapped]

FCJ>Have the following ADULT cd's to trade for other Adult cd's or regular cd.
FCJ>Total Fantasy Disc 1: 4.106 gifs. PentHouse,Stars,Text,Movies...$29.00
FCJ>Moving Fantasies: All Movies   $38.00
FCJ>XX Extreme: 614 Megs Gifs, Movies..... $27.00
FCJ>Storm I : 700 Megs Gifs,Movies,Text Files....  $27.00
FCJ>Storm II : 5,1129 files, Gifs,Movies.   $28.00
FCJ>Visual Fantasies: 2,500 Gifs, 466 Megs.  $27.00
FCJ>Physical Therapy:  Gifs,Movies,Text.....  $27.00
FCJ>Volcano:  375 Megs Gifs.....   $53.00
FCJ>Visual Fantasies II : 2,642 Gifs....  $27.00

FCJ>Please writh first with what  you have, each to pay postage....will not sen
FCJ>till I receive your trades, or money. Complete Satisfaction, or refunded.
FCJ>Frank Cirillo Jr.
FCJ>302-674-4537 anytime;

And I will do the same. Call 803-766-3348.  BTW, I hope that Total
Fantasy Disc 1 has 4,106 Gifs. I want more than 4 and have never seen
.106 of a gif(except for botched downloads). <<G>>

 Michael J. Blitch
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From: MICHAEL BLITCH                         Number: 11888
  To: DON OLDENBURG                            Date: 02/07/94  9:24p
Subj: CD FOR SALE OR TRADE!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DO>Make me an offer:

DO>PC-SIG 12th edition
DO>Forbidden Subjects, Vol1

DO>Will sell or trade....  Looking for CURRENT shareware or adult files....

I want to get Forbidden subjects!! I will trade any of these for that
disk!

CD-Roms...

Dracula Unleashed
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
Star Wars Chess (for Windows)
Day of the Tentacle (Enhanced)
Mad Dog McCree
Star Trek: 25th Anniversary (Enhanced)
Man Enough (2 CD set)
Rebel Assault (NEW! Package still shrink-wrapped!!!)
Return of the Phantom/ F-117A (one CD set)
Dinosaur Adventure/ Space Adventure (one CD set)
Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia ver 1.01VW (1992) [shrink-wrapped]
(NEW!!)

 Please reply here as I am very interested in this CD!!

 Michael J. Blitch II
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From: BEN CHAVEZ                             Number: 11889
  To: FRANK SALAMONE                           Date: 02/11/94 11:12p
Subj: Putzes                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

i don't got much time, call me tomorrow morning if you see this because a hell
of a lot happened tonight.  Youw on't believe it, I got slapped, whacked, and
other crap.
Bye putz


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 11890
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/10/94  1:24p
Subj: cd-rom for trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have Storm II and Storm III for trade for another adult disc with gifs
on it.

Randy

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 11891
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94  1:11a
Subj: Mitsumi double speed                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone have one of the new Mitsumi double speed cd drives?  I have two
LU005 single speed drives, but considering trading up.

Thanks
Randy


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From: DAVID SARGEANT                         Number: 11892
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/11/94  4:38p
Subj: Shareware CD-ROMs                       Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hi, I got your message about the shareware CD-ROMS.  I would like to
order the Shareware Overload Trio, with the Powerbox 1 for $6.  Let's
see, that should come to...$27.90.  Does that include shipping?  Please
call me at (702) 294-5096 or (702) 293-6089 or leave me a message.  Or
leave me a message.

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 11893
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/12/94  1:27a
Subj: SOFTWARE VAULT PLATINUM                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

600MB's+, 4700+ files,  BRAND NEW RELEASE - 1993 - 1994  November - January.

Thousands of the most recent shareware programs and resources available from
around the world.  Includes a user friendly Software Vault Librarian that will
help you find and use what you need easily and quickly. (Games. Sounds, Sound
Blaster & MIDI, Graphics, MultiMedia, Word Processing, Fonts & Clip Art,
Pictures & GIFs, Spreadsheets, Educational, Database, Ham Radio Utilities, LAN
Utilities, BBS Utilities, and many more.)
                    SOFTWARE VAULT PLATINUM - $18.00
    ORDERS ONLY!! 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 11894
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/12/94  1:27a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11 BUNDLE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E

* Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous Versions
* All Zipped Files      * New Viewer     * 60% Files Released last 90 days
"Night Owl 11. "  offer's over 4,500 all new files and supports for areas
such as Windows, OS/2, Games, Fonts, Ham Radio, Lan, Business and more !
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $26.00
   Best Of The Best - Night Owl 11. + Cream Of The Crop II - $45.00

ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: AL AGEE                                Number: 11895
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94  6:27p
Subj: Custom cds                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I'll put 640mb of your data on an ISO 9660 standard CD for $49. If you don't
have a tape drive, I will restore from 1.44mb floppies for $0.25 each.

Advantages include:
- Speed       - My 10ms HD is only four times faster than CD. - Cost        -
CD costs $49, tape $100, 1.4mb floppy $200. - Security    - It can't be
changed. No virus threat. - Convenience - It's like adding another hard drive.

  o Make your own shareware disk.
  o Organize those huge graphics files.
  o Put your BBS on CD instead of buying another hard drive.
  o Distribute your data to several sites.
  o Back up your entire LAN or BBS.

Send QIC-80 or QIC-40 DC2120 tapes and cashiers check to: Allen Agee, 52 Sleepy
Hollow Rd, Andover NJ 07821. If you have questions, call me voice at
(201)786-7716 evenings.
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From: DOUG ROBINSON                          Number: 11896
  To: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                        Date: 02/11/94  9:13p
Subj: TRADE\SELL ADULT CD'S                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If I wanted to get Storm II, how would I get the $$ to you, and would you take
$20?

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From: BOB BAKER                              Number: 11897
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 02/11/94  6:59p
Subj: cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Shane, I'm not really sure just what it does. From what i've heard, when you
send your film away to be developed, it comes back on cd. I'm not positive
about this, cause I didn't even read the manual.    Bob

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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 11898
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94  1:09p
Subj: Pixar SHOWPLACE 2.0 CD (Mac)            Refer: NONE
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        Pixar Showplace 2.0 CD == for MAC 
        Realistic 3D RENDERING
        Includes MacRenderMan, (Software used in JURASSIC PARK & T2)
        NetRenderMan (3 lic.) & Glimpse.
        New, UNregistered. ($400 MailOrder)  
        ONLY $200 - no trades
        412-761-9090 


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11899
  To: DAVID MANZ                               Date: 02/10/94  1:04p
Subj: COMPLEATE LIST OF CD'S FO               Refer: NONE
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>                 68:1400/104@CINAMANET
>                 62:3800/35@WORLDNET
>                 255:1407/111@EZNET

 The first part formatted fine, but...

>Codes..........................$29.00 93/94 Mega Movie
>Guide.....................$56.00 A Line In the
>Sand.........................$35.00 A+ Grade
>Builders..........................$42.00 About
>Cows.................................$25.00 Accumail

 The important part wrapped all over.

 Try adding a single space to the front of each line on this part....


 * SLMR 2.1a * An Orc Paladin? What Hell world is THIS????

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11900
  To: THOMAS BAIRD                             Date: 02/10/94  1:06p
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
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>What's the most highly recommend CD-Rom out there that supports OS/2?

 Tossup between CD OS/2 Box and Hobbes OS/2 Archives.

 Hobbes generally gets the nod due to it's lower price ($14 vs. $25)....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Meekness: uncommon patience planning worthwhile revenge

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11901
  To: AUDIE VICKERS                            Date: 02/10/94  1:31p
Subj: NEC CDR-36 DRIVES                       Refer: NONE
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>BF> Older single-speed external drives.

>  I missed the original post.  How much??

 I think the guy that was selling them wanted $129 or $99....


 * SLMR 2.1a * If you Love your Freedom, Thank a Veteran!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11902
  To: DAVID SHORT                              Date: 02/10/94  3:37p
Subj: PIONEERS                                Refer: NONE
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>What are the drive stats for the DRM 602 that make it so much more valuable
>(read costly) than the 600?

 1) It's double-spin.
 2) It's a newer design.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Vini Vidi GUI - I came, I saw, I slowed to a crawl....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11903
  To: RUDY BORJON                              Date: 02/11/94 12:29p
Subj: HAM RADIO CD..                          Refer: NONE
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> Looking for a strictly Ham Radio oriented cd's...new of course...

 Walnut Creek's "QRZ Ham Radio", Chesnut's "Ham Radio", the Buckminster
"Hamcall" all come to mind.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Appease the Moderator Monster. Send Chocolates!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11904
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 02/11/94 12:49p
Subj: NEW CD-ROM TITLES......                 Refer: NONE
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>CS:>Do you carry titles compatible with Reel Magic mpeg board?

 I carry the Dragon's Lair for Reel Magic title, haven't seen any others on any
of my distributor lists (yet)....


 * SLMR 2.1a * "How will you know me? You'll see me cry...."

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11905
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 02/11/94  1:14p
Subj: ***BBS SHAREWARE CD'S WAN               Refer: NONE
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>BF> If you're going to come down for the AGI Computer Show in BF>Indianapolis
>on Febuary 12, drop by my table

>Hmmm ... that might make it difficult for you to be at Mansfield, OH hamfest
>the next day.

 Turns out that Mansfield sold out before I even saw one of their flyers - so I
will be at the computer show in Cleveland instead (at the Holiday Inn in
Strongsville).


 * SLMR 2.1a * Cats like Windows, it seems to attract Mice....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11906
  To: CHARLES CAMPBELL                         Date: 02/11/94  1:28p
Subj: GAME                                    Refer: NONE
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> Can someone tell were can I get a game called Lesisure Suit Larry on CD?

 See my add a few messages along - I carry LSL VI on CD-ROM....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Presidential Election '92 - the Revenge of the South?!?!?

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11907
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94  1:53p
Subj: PRICE LIST 1 OF 5                       Refer: NONE
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 Brice's Library
 CD-ROM Price List 14 January 1993

 5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
 Indianapolis, IN 46220
 Tue Thu 11am - 8pm  Wed Fri 11am - 6pm  EST
 (317) 726-1980 voice  (317) 726-1387 BBS (24 hour, 1200/2400/v.32 supported)

 FidoNet 1:231/190   InterNet sysop@f190.n231.z1.fidonet.org
 All prices are in U.S. Dollars and include any applicable Sales Tax.
 U.S. Shipping included if prepaid (please allow 7 days for check to clear).
 Sales to out-of-U.S. addresses require payment in U.S. funds.
 We cannot accept Credit Card payment at this time.
 If you don't see a specific title that you are looking for, please CALL!
 I add new titles almost constantly!


 Infocomm 10 Year Aniversery Coll. 79  Louis Armstrong Multi Record      29
 1000 Sound Effects                49  Lovejoy's College Councel. (MPC)  79
 1001 Utilities                    10  Lovely Ladies II                  31
 1992 CD-ROM Collection w/CIA      63  Lucas Arts Game Pack II (OEM)     20
 20'th Century Almanac (5 disc)    72  Lucas Arts Mac Game Pack II       26
 20'th Century Art                 49  Lunicus (Mac)                     69
 20'th Century People (OEM)        25  Lyric Language French (PC/Mac)    40
 20'th Century Sports (OEM)        25  Lyric Language Spanish (PC/Mac)   40
 20000 Leagues Under the Sea (Mac) 69  MacMillan Dict for Children (OEM) 19
 3'd Body Adventure (MPC)          79  MacMillan Dict. for Children (Mac 39
 3D Tutor (Mac)                   119  Macromind Action! (OEM)           28
 501 Sound Waves                   19  Mad Dog McCree                    35
 600 Days to Cocos Island (Mac)    59  Made in the USA (PC/Mac)          36
 7'th Guest (OEM)                  36  Madness of Roland (Mac)           50
 7'th Guest (Mac)                  99  Magic Death (MPC)                 49
 9 Digit Zip Codes                 32  Magic Death (Mac)                 49
 9000 Sounds                       24  Magic Flute (Mac)                 55
 A Christmas Carol                 26  Majestic Places (PC/Mac)          36
 A Christmas Carol (FTL)           56  Mammals (Nat. Geographic)         23
 A Silly Noisy House (MPC)         59  Man Enough                        59
 A Silly Noisy House (Mac)         49  Manhole                           35
 A+ Grade Builder                  34  Manhole (OEM)                     25
 About Cows                        25  Manpower                          29
 AD&D Dark Sun: Shattered Lands    69  Mantis Experimental Fighter (OEM) 16
 AD&D Dungeon Hack                 49  Maps 'n' Facts PC Globe           47
 AD&D Fantasy Empires              59  Mario is Missing Deluxe (OEM)     20
 ADA Programming                   19  Mario Missing w/World Atlas (OEM) 20
 Adobe Type on Call                81  Mario Teaches Typing              64
 Adobe Type on Call (Windows)      83  Mars Explorer                     41
 Adventures                        40  Masterpiece Library               36
 Adventures in Heaven              15  Math Blaster Spot                 49
 Adventures of Pinocchio (MAC)     59  Matinee Screen Saver              43
 Adventures of Willy Beamish (OEM) 17  Mavis Beacon Typing (MPC) (OEM)   16
 Aegis Guardian Fleet              68  Max the Dragon (PC/Mac)           55
 Aesopolis (Mac)                   69  Mayo Clinic (MPC) (OEM)           18
 Aesop's Fables (eBook)            40  Mayo Clinic (Mac) (OEM)           24
 AGFA Intro PAC - 20 Typefaces     82  MCS CD Master                     29
 Airbrush Portfolio (PC/Mac)       69  MCS SOund Review vol. 1           39
 Air Warrier                       58  Media Clips 3-pack (MPC) (OEM)    45
 Aircraft Encyclopedia             27  Mega A/V                          26
 Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp    34  Mega Clipart (OEM)                27
 Aladdin's Lamp (EA) (DOS)         47  Mega CD-ROM v.1                   20
 All American Sports               47  Mega CD-ROM v.2                   26
 All Music Guide                   55  Mega Media I                      26
 Aloha, Hawaii!                    20  Mega Movie Guide                  39
 Alone in the Dark                 69  Mega ROM 3.2 (Mac)                89
 Amanda Stories (MPC)              41  Mega WinOS/2                      26
 Amanda Stories (Mac)              49  Megarace                          59
 Amazing Universe (PC/Mac)         59  Microcosm                         85
 America Adventure                 69  Microprose CD Sampler             15
 America Alive Guidedisc (DOS)     59  Microprose Collection (OEM)       28
 America Alive Guidisc (Mac)       87  Microsoft Bookshelf '93 (OEM)     38
 American Business Phone Book '92  14  Microsoft Golf                    45
 American Business Phone Book '93  25  Microsoft Mozart                  54
 American Heritage Ilus Ency Dict  50  Microsoft Multimedia Pack (OEM)   69
 American Journey 1896-1945        45  Microsoft Musical Inst. (Mac)     79
 American Vista Atlas (MPC) (OEM)  27  Microsoft Stravisky               54
 American Vista Atlas (Mac)        60  Microsoft Works (OEM)             38
 America's Premier Shareware       14  Middle East Diary                 26
 Americans in Space (PC/Mac)       57  MIDI Connection                   56
 Aminet                            15  MIDI Music Shop for Windows       17
 Anecdotes v.1                     14  Midnight Movie Madness            49
 Anecdotes v.2                     14  Might and Magic: World of Xeen    69
 Anecdotes v.3                     14  Mixed Up Mother Goose (OEM)       17
 Anglo-Saxons                      44  Monarch Notes (PC/Mac)            40
 Animal Alphabet (MPC)             49  Money, Money, Money! (OEM)        19
 Animal Kingdom (PC/Mac)           39  Monster Disk (2 discs)            30
 Animal Tales                      59  Monster Media '93                 23
 Animals Encyclopedia (MPC) (OEM)  27  Monster Media '93 #2              28
 Animals in Motion                 40  Mosaic Magic                      29
 Animals San Diego Zoo (DOS) (OEM) 19  Mosaic Magic (Mac)                49
 Animals San Diego Zoo (MPC) (OEM) 20  Mother of All Clip Art            14
 Animals San Diego Zoo (Mac) (OEM) 23  Motion Picture Guide              89
 Animation Festival (MPC) (OEM)    20  Movie Select                      55
 Animation Magic (Win)             58  Movie Select (Mac)                55
 Annabel's Dream Ancient Egy (Mac) 55  Movies on TV and Video (PC/Mac)   34
 Annabel's Dream Medival Eng (DOS) 69  Mowgli's Brothers                 36
 Annabel's Dream Medival Eng (Mac) 69  Mozart (MPC) (OEM)                20
 APL Volume I                      19  Mozart Multimedia Musicbook       37
 Apollo 8 Go For TLI               30  Mozart Multimedia Musicbook (Mac) 38
 Arcade                            45  Mozart: Dissonant Quartet         49
 Archives of History (DOS)         65  MPC Wizard (OEM)                  14
 Archives of History (Mac)         69  MS Art Gallery                    79
 Arctic Baron                      39  MS Art Gallery (Mac)              79
 Art Appeal Series                 89  MS-DOS Explorer 3                 35
 Art of Ancient Egypt v.4          65  Multi Bible                       89
 Art of Renaisance II              95  Multimedia Animal Encyc. (Mac)    59
 Art Library 3 Pack                89  Multimedia Audio Collection       30
 Arthur Teacher Troubl (MPC) (OEM) 22  Multimedia Audubon Birds (PC/Mac) 19
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble (Mac)    49  Multimedia Audbn Mammals (PC/Mac) 19
 ASP Advantage                     20  Multimedia Environments           29
 Astrology Source (PC/Mac)         59  Multimedia Handisc (Mac)          87
 Atlas of U.S. Presidents          26  Multimedia Magic Collection       15
 Audioshop (Mac)                   75  Multimedia Mania                  19
 Authorware Star (MPC) (OEM)       34  Murder Makes Strange Deadfellows  45
 Autodesk Explorer                 85  Murmurs of Earth (3 disc) (PC/Mac 44
 B17 Flying Fortress/S.S. II (OEM) 30  Music Magic                       39
 Baccus and Comus (Mac)            50  Musical World Pro Piccolo         69
 Backroad Racers                   59  Mutanoid Math & Word Challenge    39
 Baker's Dozen Game Pack Windows   15  MVP Game Jamboree                 12
 Barney Bear Goes to School        14  My Advanced Label Designer        54
 Barney Bear Goes to Space         14  The Myst (Mac)                    79
 Barron's Book Notes (OEM)         30  NAFTA on CD-ROM (PC/Mac)          89
 Barron's Book Notes (Mac)         74  Napoleonics                       59
 Baseball's Greatest Hits (Mac)    59  National Parks of America (PC/Mac 69
 Battle Chess (original) (OEM)     20  National Parks Guide (MPC)        54
 Battle Chess (enhanced) (OEM)     25  National Parks (MPC) (OEM)        20
 Battle Chess (enhanced) (Mac)     68  Nature Graphics I                 26
 Beauty and the Beast (OEM) (MPC)  17  Nautilus Backpack Vol.II          41
 Beethoven: The 9'th Symphony      79  Nautilus Backpack Vol. III        69
 Berlitz Thnk Tlk French (PC/Mac) 105  Nautilus Backpack v.3 (Mac)       69
 Berlitz T & T German (PC/Mac)    109  Nautilus Backpack v.4 (Mac)       69
 Berlitz T & T Italian (PC/Mac)   129  Nautilus Backpack v.5 (Mac)       69
 Berlitz T & T Spanish (PC/Mac)   109  Nautilus Best of MIDI (PC/Mac)    79
 Best Business                     25  Nautilus Best of Ent. v.1 (Mac)   54
 Best of Macintosh Shareware       49  Nautilus Best of Photography      69
 Best of Microprose                22  Nautilus Intro (OEM)              19
 Better H&G Gardening (PC/Mac)     69  Naval Pack                        69
 Better H&G Hlthy Cooking (PC/Mac) 57  Nebula for NextStep               35
 Between Heaven and Hell 2         40  New Basics Electronic Cookbook    58
 Bible Lands and Stories           40  New Basics Electronic Cookb (OEM) 24
 Bible Library                     69  New Family Bible (MPC/Mac)        49
 Bible Library  (OEM)              24  New Kid on the Block
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 Big Bug Alphabet Book (DOS)       29  Newsweek Interactive v.1 (OEM)    18
 Big Bug Alphabet Book (Mac)       34  Newsweek Interactive v.2          50
 Big Green Disc (MPC)              79  Newsweek Interactive v.2 (OEM)    25
 Big Green Disc (Mac)              79  NFL Coaches Club Football         64
 Bikini Beach (PC/Mac)             59  Night Before Chrismas             35
 Billie Holoday Multi Record       29  Night Owl 9                       24
 Bingi Burra Stone (Mac)           29  Night Owl 10                      28
 Bloodnet                          64  Night Owl Business Software       19
 Blue Force                        46  Night Owl Games                   19
 Book of Lists #3 (PC/Mac)         75  Night Owl Graphics                24
 Book of Lists #3 (PC/Mac) (OEM)   40  Night Owl Publisher (OEM)         32
 Book of Shadowboxes (Mac)         49  Night Owl Windows                 36
 Boris Vallejo Fantasy Art         48  North American Fax Phonebook      27
 Brain Drain                       19  North American Indians            26
 Brain Games Trivia (MPC)          59  NOVA (for NeXT)                   20
 Bridge Deluxe w/ Omar Sharif      65  Nova Collection v.1               54
 Bring the World to Your Senses    15  Number 11 Downing Street          69
 Britain at it's Best              24  Nutcracker                        39
 Britannica Family Choice          21  Ocean Digital Imagery vol 1 (OEM) 23
 Britannica Select Software        17  Ocean in Motion (QT)              59
 Bugs Insect Advice                64  Ocean Life: Western Pacific       39
 Business Assistant                10  Ocean Life: vol.2 (PC/Mac)        49
 Business Backgrounds (PC/Mac)     31  Oceans Below (MPC) (OEM)          20
 Business Backgrounds (OEM)        20  Officer's Bookcase (OEM)          25
 Business CD                       34  Oldies but Goodies                16
 Business Library v.1              46  On Vacation in the Brit. Isles    29
 Business Library v.1 (OEM)        30  Orchestra (Mac)                   67
 Business Made Easy                39  Oregon Trail                      55
 Business Master I  (OEM)          17  Oregon Trail (Mac)                69
 Business Master II (OEM)          18  Original Shareware 1992           10
 Business Week 1000                89  OS/2 v2.1 Upgrade                 95
 Busytown                          48  Our House (Family Circus)         45
 Busytown (Mac)                    48  Our Solar System                  12
 Butterflies                       49  Oxford English Reference Library  94
 Buzz Aldrin's Race into Space     79  Pacific vol. 1 (3 disc) (PC/Mac)  34
 C User's Group Library            22  Pacific vol. 2 (3 disc) (PC/Mac)  34
 California Collection             12  Pacific Islands                   30
 California Daydreamer             29  Parenting (MPC/Mac)               59
 California/Hawaii Golf Guide      40  Patrician                         59
 California/Hawaii Golf Gde  (OEM) 23  PC/DOS Introductory Module (OEM)  12
 California Travel                 30  PC Game Room                      18
 Cameron's Fine Art Catalog        39  PC Globe                          69
 Campaign                          49  PC Globe Maps and Facts           45
 Canadian Shareware                15  PC Karaoke (OEM)                  30
 Capitol Hill (DOS)                25  PC Medic                          46
 Capitol Hill (MPC)                25  PC Medic (OEM)                    17
 Cars Cars Cars (DOS)              80  PC-SIG #12                        19
 Cars Cars Cars (QT)               80  PC-SIG #13 (preorder)             30
 Case of the Cautious Condor       37  PC-SIG Games                      15
 Casino Collection                 19  PC-SIG Home and Business          12
 Castle of Dr, Brain               54  PC-SIG World of Education         15
 Castles II                        69  PC-SIG World of Games             15
 CD CAD v3.7                       26  PC-SIG World of Utilities         15
 CD Funhouse (PC/Mac)              39  PC-SIG World of Windows           15
 CD Funhouse (PC/Mac) OEM          17  Peak Performance                  59
 CD OS/2box                        25  Pentomino                         22
 CD Power Pack                     99  Peter and the Wolf (MPC)          44
 CD Powerbox 2                     29  Peter and the Wolf (MPC) (OEM)    18
 CD ROM Deluxe Pack                26  Peter Gabriel Explor (Mac)        79
 CD ROM Deluxe Pack II             29  Peter Pan Painting Adventure      59
 CD-ROM of CD-ROMS                 28  Peter Pan Painting Advent. (Mac)  59
 CD Speedway (cache program)       58  Peter Rabbit Talking Storybook    21
 CD Storytime (OEM)                18  Pharmacist Guide to Drugs         29
 CD WinBox 1.01                    20  Phoenix #3                        11
 Chaos Continuum (MPC)             59  Phoenix #4                        16
 Chaos Continuum (Mac)             64  Phoenix Phun Games                26
 Chaos Fractals and Magic          30  Phonedisc USA Business            69
 Chefware                          45  Phonedisc USA Residential         59
 Chess Maniac 5 Billion            37  Photo Pro v.1: Patterns of Nature 70
 Chessmaster 3000 (MPC)            55  Photo Pro v.2: People Doing Thngs 70
 Chessmaster 3000 (MPC) (OEM)      19  Photo Pro v.3: Fotobank           89
 CIA World Fact Book (DOS)         45  Photo Pro v.3: Fotobank (OEM)     17
 CIA World Fact Book (MPC)         50  Photoedge Enhance PhotoCD Images 115
 CIA World Fact Book (OEM) (DOS)   15  Photoedge Enhance (Mac)          115
 CIA World Fact Book (OEM) (MPC)   21  Picture Atlas of the World        60
 CIA World Fact Book (Mac)         35  Picture Factory                   89
 CIA World Tour (MPC) (OEM)        29  Picture Factory (Mac)             89
 CICA Windows August 1993          14  Pier 3                            25
 City 2000                         43  Pilgram Quest                    109
 Classic Clips Horror              39  Pill Book                         35
 Classic Clips Sci Fi              39  Pixel Garden                      28
 Classic Clips Trailers            26  Pixel Perfect Graphics            50
 Classic Clips Vixens              39  Pixel Perfect Graphics (OEM)      17
 Classic Collection+ (4 discs)     51  Plant Doctor                      28
 Clip Art Warehouse (OEM)          12  Placename Index                   29
 Clip Media II (OEM) (MPC)         29  Places to Play                    49
 Clipart (Timeworks)               26  Playing with Languages: English   58
 Clipart Galore                    22  Playing w Languages English (OEM) 25
 Clipart Heaven                    15  Playing with Languages: French    55
 Clipmaster Pro                    30  Playing w Languages: French (OEM) 25
 Coates Art Review: Abstract Art   40  Playing with Languages: German    55
 Coates Art Review: Impressionism  30  Playing w Languages: German (OEM) 25
 College Handbook                  24  Playing with Languages: Japaneese 55
 College Handbook '93              39  Playing w Language Japanese (OEM) 25
 Color Digital Photos v.1 Premier  32  Playing with Languages: Spanish   55
 Color Digital Photos v.2 Space    32  Playing w Languages Spanish (OEM) 25
 Color It (Mac) (OEM)              26  Plummers Don't Wear Ties          29
 Colormagic Clip Art (PC/Mac)      20  Police Quest IV (MPC)             79
 Colossal Cookbook (OEM)           14  Pop & Politics                    60
 Comanche                          79  Power Talk (MPC)                  39
 Companion for Windows             17  Power Talk (MPC) (OEM)            25
 Companion for Wordperfect         17  Power Utilities                   29
 Complete Bookshop                 12  Precision Mapping #1.5            68
 Complete Guide Specl Intrst Video 30  Prescription Drugs                27
 Complete Home/Office Legal Guide  12  Presidents                        46
 Complete House                    29  Presidents (Mac)                  46
 Complete Windows Set              29  Presto Hi Rez Audio (Mac)        109
 Composer Quest                    65  Private Eye Mysteries             53
 Composer Quest (OEM)              26  Professional Tutor Learn Lotus    29
 Compton's Encyclopedia (MPC)(OEM) 52  Professional Tutor Learn Windows  29
 Compton's Family Choice           43  Programmer's ROM                  26
 Compton's Family Choice (OEM)     26  Project Gutenburg                 19
 Compton's Multimedia Golf Guide   34  Prophone end-year 1993 (7 discs)  99
 Compton's Interactive Encl. '94   89  Prophone Business Directory '93   25
 Compton's Interactive '94 (OEM)   69  Protostar                         69
 Compton's Int. Enc. '94 (upgrade) 79  Psycho Killer                     64
 Compton's Int. Enc. '94 (Mac upg) 99  Public Relations Handbook         49
 Computer Industry Almanac '93     19  Publique Arte                     27
 Computer Reference Library        12  Publish It 2.0 (GEM/DOS)          99
 Computerworks                     39  Publish It 2.0 (GEM/DOS) (OEM)    19
 Conan the Cimmerian               39  Publish It 3.0 (Mac)             129
 Conan the Cimmerian (OEM)         25  Publish It 3.1 (Win)              55
 Conquest of the Longbow           49  Publish It 3.1 (Windows) nofonts  44
 Consumer Information Disc         20  Publish It Easy 2.1 (Mac) (OEM)   29
 Cookbook Heaven                   14  Publishers Backgrounds            46
 Corel Art Show III                40  Publishers Paradise Pro           44
 Corel Draw 3.0 (OEM)              79  Publishers Paradise (OEM)         20
 Corel Draw 4.0                   349  Putt-Putt Goes to the Moon        50
 Corel Photo CD Hawaii             79  Putt-Putt Joins the Parade (Mac)  59
 Corel Photo CD Waterfalls         79  Putt-Putt's Fun Pack              27
 Count Basie Multi Record          29  Putt-Putt's Fun Pack (Mac)        39
 CP/M Programs                     20  Q & A
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11909
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 Cyber Race (Mac)                  69  Race the Clock                    49
 Cybergenic Ranger                 15  RBBS In A Box v3.1                26
 Daemonsgate                       39  Reader's Library                  20
 Dagger of Amon Ra                 49  Reading Carnival                  49
 Dagger of Amon Ra (OEM)           32  Rebel Assault                     69
 Dandy Dinosaurs                   69  Red Shift                         99
 Danger, Hot Stuff II              24  Red Shift (Mac)                   99
 Dare Bluff or Die!                29  Reel Clips                        25
 Darkseed (MPC)                    69  Reference Library                 79
 Darkseed (Mac)                    69  Reference Library (OEM)           15
 Darwin (PC/Mac)                   99  Resource Library Audio            15
 Data Base Made Easy               20  Resource Library Graphics         15
 Day of the Tentacle               42  Resource Library Language Ops.    20
 Deathstar Arcade Battles          12  Resource Library Multimedia       25
 Deep Voyage (MPC/Mac)             35  Return of the Phantom (enhanced)  40
 Deep Voyage (OEM)                 21  Return to the Moon (MPC)          27
 Dennis Miller News to Me (PC/Mac) 41  Return to Zork                    49
 Desert Storm Coalition Cmd (MPC)  34  Return to Zork (OEM)              29
 Desert Storm Coalition Cmd (Mac)  34  Right College (MPC) (OEM)         23
 Desert Stm Cl Cmd (MPC/Mac) (OEM) 24  Ringworld: Revemge of Patriarch   49
 Desktop Bookshop                  14  Road and Track Auto Guide (PC/Mac 69
 Desktop Imager (OEM)              20  Rock Rap 'n' Roll                 48
 Desktop Publishers Dream Disc     28  Rock Rap 'n' Roll (Mac)           48
 Destination Mars (MPC)            42  Rodney's Funscreen                48
 Dictionaries and Languages        12  Rodney's Funscreen (OEM)          29
 Dictionary of the Living World   109  Rodney's Wonder Window            32
 Dictionary of Living World (OEM)  25  Roger Ebert Movie Companion       27
 Dictionary of Living World (Mac) 119  RoMaterial (MPC)                  26
 Digital Dancing (PC/Mac)          59  RoMaterial (OEM)                  14
 Digital Tours: World of Flight    31  Rotor/Time Bandit/Airball         16
 Digital Tours: World of Trains    31  Russia China vol. 1               79
 Digital Tours: USA Tour           37  Sam and Max Hit THe Road          69
 Dinosaur Adventure                53  Scavenger Hunt Africa (Mac)       49
 Dinosaur Adventure 3D             69  Scenic and Archetecture (Mac)     59
 Dinosaur Adventure (Mac)          69  Scenic and Nature III (Mac)       59
 Dinosaur Adventure (OEM)          20  Schubert: The Trout Quinted       49
 Dinosaur Space Adventure (OEM)    34  Sci-Fi Fantasy                    20
 Dinosaur Discovery                40  Science Adventure II              79
 Dinosaur Discovery (Mac)          40  Scissors Stones                   79
 Dinosaur Discovery (OEM)          29  Scissors Stones (Mac)             79
 Dinosaur Safari (PC/Mac)          69  Scooter's Magic Castle            59
 Dinosaurs! (MPC) (OEM)            25  Scouting Report '92               29
 Dinosaurs! (Mac)                  69  Scrabble Deluxe                   30
 Dinosource                        79  Screen Singer Childrens           39
 Dinosource (Mac)                  89  Screen Singer Christmas           39
 Discoverers                       69  Screen Singer Folk Songs          39
 Discoveries of the Deep           39  SDN Plus                          26
 Distant Suns                      75  Seals of the U.S. Government      27
 DIstant Suns 2.0 (Mac)           109  Secret of Monkey Island           19
 Distant Suns 2 (Win)             109  Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe (OEM) 19
 Dividends                         29  Secrets of Executive Success      30
 Doctor's Book of Home Remedies    39  Selectware System                 29
 Doctor's Book Home Remedies (OEM) 29  Selectware System (OEM)           10
 Don Quixote                       29  Selectware Jukebox (OEM)          19
 Down To Earth (Mac)               69  Selfish Giant (PC/Mac)            59
 Dr. Funpak                        19  Seven Days in August              59
 Dr. Games                         15  Seven Days in August (Mac)        59
 Dr. Games vol II                  19  Shadow of the Comet               69
 Dr. Music                         15  Shakesphere (PC/Mac)              15
 Dr. Shareware                     14  Shakesphere Study Guide           25
 Dr. Shareware vol. II             19  Shakesphere Study Guide (Mac)     25
 Dr. Windows                       14  Shareware 1993                    20
 Dr. Windows vol. II               19  Shareware 1993 Vol. 2             21
 Dracula Unleashed (PC/Mac)        53  Shareware 2 the Maxx              19
 Dragon's Lair                     69  Shareware Avalanche               24
 Dragon's Lair (3DO)               69  Shareware Explorer (4 discs)      37
 Dragon's Lair (Mac)               69  Shareware Explorer DOS            25
 Dragon's Lair for Reelmagic Bd.   79  Shareware Explorer Windows        25
 Dune (OEM)                        35  Shareware Extravaganza (4 discs)  35
 Dvorak on Typing                  63  Shareware Galore                  20
 Eagle Eye Shareware               19  Shareware Gold II                 16
 Early Learning Fun                39  Shareware Heaven (OEM)            15
 Earth Air Fire Water              59  Shareware Heaven v.2 (OEM)        20
 Earth Air Fire Water (Mac)        59  Shareware Magic                   42
 Ecoquest: Search for Cetus (OEM)  26  Shareware Online #1               19
 Edu-tainment Software             20  Shareware Online #2               20
 Education Master, 2'nd Edition    18  Shareware Overload                12
 Educational Disc                  31  Shareware Overload Trio           21
 Educational Gameland              24  Shareware Perlen 2                30
 Educational Software Cooperative  16  Shareware Studio #2               15
 Electricity & Magnetism           40  Shareware Studio #3               20
 Electronic Home Library (OEM)     24  Shareware Supreme                 29
 Electronic Home Library (Mac)     89  Shelley Duvall It's a Bird's Life 59
 E.L.A.: Renaissance Mstrs I (OEM) 30  Shelley Duvall Bird's Life (OEM)  39
 E.L.A.: Renaissance Mstrs I (Mac) 79  Shelley Duvall Bird's Life (Mac)  64
 E.L.A.: Renaissance Mstr II (OEM) 30  Sherlock Holmes                   15
 E.L.A.: Renaissance Mstr II (Mac) 79  Sherlock Holmes C. Det. #1 (OEM)  20
 E.L.A.: Impressionism (OEM)       40  Sherlock Holmes C. Det. #1 (Mac)  62
 E.L.A.: Impressionism (Mac)       79  Sherlock Holmes C. Det. #2 (OEM)  43
 E.L.A.: Survey Western Art (OEM)  30  Sherlock Holmes C. Det. #2 (Mac)  62
 E.L.A.: Survey Western Art (Mac)  69  Sherlock Holmes Cons. Detect. #3  63
 Encapsulated Postscript Pro v.1  129  Sherlock Holmes C. Det. #3 (OEM)  46
 EPS Pro Volume 2                 129  Sherlock Holmes C. Det. #3 (Mac)  79
 Encyclopedia of Clipart           22  Sierra's Sneek Peeks              10
 Encyclopedia of Life (Mac)       119  SIGCAT                             8
 Encyclopedia of Sound             12  Significant Series Windows        15
 Endangered & Threatened Species   29  Sim Ant                           69
 Endangered Species                29  Sim City                          69
 Eric the Unready                  40  Simtel 20                         14
 ESPN Baseball                     56  Sing Along Christmas              22
 ESPN Football                     56  Sing Along Duet Now               20
 Europe Alive                      59  Sing Along Elvis (MPC)            20
 European Monarchs                 26  Sing Along Fireside Love (70-80)  20
 European Racers                   42  Sing Along Kids vol. 1            30
 Everywhere USA                    43  Sing Along Lovin in the '60s      20
 Exotic Garden (MPC)               39  Sing Along Party                  59
 Exotic Japan (Mac)                69  Sing Along Top Top '80s '90s      20
 Expert 3D Home Design (Win)       19  Sitting on the Farm (Mac)         59
 Explore Ancient Archetecture      49  Slater & Charlie                  69
 Eye of the Beholder III (OEM)     29  Sleeping Beauty (MPC)             36
 Eye of the Beholder Trilogy       69  Sleeping Beauty (MPC) (OEM)       16
 F117A / F15 II / Scenario Disk    56  Small Blue Planet (MPC)           59
 F117A Stealth Fighter (OEM)       29  Small Blue Planet (Mac)           69
 F15 Strike Eagle III(enhanced)    69  So Much Modem Madness             29
 F15 Strike Eagle III/F117A (OEM)  35  So Much Screenware                23
 Factomatic Bus. Libr. (PC/Mac)   119  So Much Shareware #2              15
 Factomatic for Executives         39  So Much Shareware #3              20
 Factomatic for Negotiaters        39  So Much Space                     20
 Factomatic for Sales Managers     39  So You Be Rock & Roll Star (MPC)  49
 Factomatic for Supervisors        39  So You Be Rock & Roll Star (Mac)  49
 Family Bible (Multimedia)         65  Softkill (MPC/Mac)                36
 Family Doctor (OEM)               19  Software Jukebox Arcade           40
 Family Education                  24  Software Jukebox Fantasy          50
 Family Education Collection (OEM) 20  Software Treasure Chest           25
 Fantasia Fonts                    26  Software Vault #2                 15
 Fantasy Feifdom                   69  Software Vault Games              24
 Fatty Bear's Birthday Suprise     55  Software Vault Gold               19
 Fatty Bear's Birthday Supr. (Mac) 59  Software Vault Windows            24
 Fatty Bear's Fun Pack  (PC/Mac)   39  Solar Heaven                      15
 Fine Art Poster Catalog           39  Sound Blaster MM Explosion        29
 Firefighter! (MPC)                49  Sound Explorer vol. 1             29
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 Four Days of Gemini Four          29  Space Quest IV (OEM)              17
 Four Footed Friends               59  Space Series - Apollo             26
 Four Footed Friends (Mac)         59  Space Shuttle                     39
 Four Queens Computer Casino       39  Space Shuttle (OEM)               19
 Fractal Ectasy                    39  Space Shuttle (Mac)               39
 Fractals                          20  Space Visual History (PC/Mac)     49
 Fractools                         30  Space Voyage to the Planets       49
 Fractools III                     37  Space Voyage to Planets (Mac)     49
 Fractunes                         30  Space Wae                         59
 France at it's Best               25  Spaceship Warlock (Mac)           89
 Fred Fish Collection (DOS/CDTV)   54  SpaceTime and Art (QT)            69
 FreeBSD Unix/386                  20  SpaceTime and Art (OEM)           25
 Freephone                         29  Speaker and Toastmaster Library   79
 Fresh Arte                        26  Speed                             79
 Front Row Baseball Cards          34  Spell Casting Party               49
 Full Bloom (PC/Mac)               34  Spellbound                        59
 Full Bloom (OEM)                  22  Spirit of Excalibur               27
 Funny: The Movie (MPC)            33  Sport News Pro Ftball Guide (MPC) 29
 Funny: The Movie (QT)             34  Sports Best on CD                 39
 Futura: Games that go Beyond      14  Sports Best on CD (OEM)           17
 Future Wars                       45  Sports Illustrated Almanac (MPC)  49
 Gabriel Knight (MPC)              64  Sports Illustrated Almanac (Mac)  40
 GAIA Envirnmnt Resource (2 disc)  79  Sports Illustrated Almanac (OEM)  21
 Gallery of Dreams (OEM)           17  Sprite                            14
 Game Arena                        10  Star Child                        30
 Game Collection (Mac)             34  Star Trek Collectables            57
 Game Jamboree                     12  Star Trek 25'th Aniv. Enhanced    69
 Game Master 2'nd Ed.              18  Star Wars Chess (OEM)             20
 Game Master 3'd Edition           23  Stellar 7 (OEM)                   17
 Game Pack 3 (OEM)                 25  StickyBear Preschool Advanced     49
 Games 1993                        20  Stories Murder, Mystery, Terror,  42
 Games Bonanza                     20  Straight from Heaven              15
 Games Collection                  24  Stravinsky: The Rite of Spring    68
 Games Platinum                    15  Street Atlas U.S.A. v2.0          89
 Gameware Collection               14  Street Atlas U.S.A. v2.0 (Mac)    99
 Garbo (DOS\Mac)                   14  Street Rod Nationals #24          24
 Gardening                         12  Strike Commander w/Tac. Missions  89
 Gateway II: Homeworld             49  Student Writing Ctr.              89
 Geekwad Games of the Galaxy       27  Super Arcade Games                25
 GIF It News                       24  Super CD 1 & 2 (2 discs)          20
 GIFs Galaxy                       20  Super CD 3                        20
 GIFs Galore September '93         19  Super Clipart                     13
 Giga Games                        18  Super Fonts                       13
 Gigabyte Gold                     24  Super Fonts (Timeworks)           25
 Global Golf                       82  Super Games for DOS vol. 1        11
 Global Golf (Mac)                 82  Super Games for Windows Vol.1     10
 Goblins 1                         36  Super Games for Windows Vol.2     10
 Goblins 2                         36  Super Games for Windows 1 & 2     20
 Goferwinkles Adventures (DOS)     30  Super Photo Bank                  19
 Goferwinkles Adventures (MPC)     34  Super Photo Collection            31
 Goferwinkles Adventures (Mac)     39  Super Programmer                  20
 Goldilocks and the 3 Bears (MPC)  38  Super Space                       25
 Goldilocks 3 Bears French  (MPC)  45  Super Stacks (Mac)                15
 Goldilocks 3 Bears Spanish (MPC)  45  Super Toons (OEM) (PC/Mac)        29
 Government Giveaways for Entrep.  54  Sure Maps DC and Virginia         99
 Government Spending               35  Sure Maps Massachusetts           99
 Grammy Awards '58-'92             49  Sure Maps Michigan/Indiana        99
 Great Cities vol. 1               20  Sure Maps Midwest                 99
 Great Cities vol. 2               20  Sure Maps New England             99
 Great Cities v1&2                 29  Sure Maps New York                99
 Great Literature (PC/Mac)         49  Sure Maps North Carolina          99
 Great Mystery Classics            46  Sure Maps Northern California     99
 Great Naval Battles               69  Sure Maps Northern Florida        99
 Great Poetry Classics             40  Sure Maps Ohio                    99
 Great Poetry Classics (Mac)       49  Sure Maps Pacific Northwest       99
 Great Wonders of the World v.1    43  Sure Maps Pennsylvania            99
 Great Wonders of the World v.2    45  Sure Maps Rockies                 99
 Greatest Books Collection         35  Sure Maps South U.S.              99
 Greatest Books Collection (Mac)   49  Sure Maps Southern California     99
 Greens Golf                       39  Sure Maps Southern Florida        99
 Grolier's Encycl. v6 (OEM) (MPC)  39  Sure Maps Southwest               99
 Grooves (MPC)                    119  Sure Maps Texas                   99
 Guiness Disc of Records '91 (OEM) 12  Sure Maps Upper Midwest           99
 Guiness D. Records 92 (Mac) (OEM) 12  Surf's Up                         29
 Guiness D. Records 93 (MPC) (OEM) 21  Sweet and Low: American Folksongs 41
 Guiness D. Records 93 (Mac) (OEM) 29  Swimwear 1993                     25
 Guns of the Old West (Mac)        36  Swiss Family Robinson (Mac)       69
 Gunship 2000 (OEM)                27  Tales of the Wild Zeep (PC/Mac)   59
 Guy Spy                           43  Talking Classic Tales (OEM)       27
 Guy Spy (OEM)                     26  Talking Classic Tales (Mac)       74
 Hacker Chronicles                 29  Talking Jungle Safari (OEM)       27
 Hacker Chronicles (OEM)           20  Talking Jungle Safari (Mac)       66
 Ham Radio #3                      12  Talking Schoolhouse (OEM)         36
 Hamcall                           42  Tao of Cow                        29
 Hamware 1993                      20  Team NFL Magazine (Mac)           24
 Harrier                           79  Tech Arsenal                      22
 Harry's Storydisc Color Bk (OEM)  24  Technotools                       12
 Hawaii High Mystery Tiki (PC/Mac) 59  Telltale Heart                    56
 HBO It's All Relative (MPC)       53  Tempra Photo CD Access (OEM)      13
 HBO It's All Relative (Mac)       53  Terminator 2 Chess Wars           49
 Healing Foods Cookbook (PC/Mac)   35  Terror of the Deep                59
 Health & Medical Industry Dir.    28  Terror of the Deep (Mac)          59
 Heart - The Engine of Life        89  Terrorist Group Profiles          25
 Hell Cab (MPC)                    69  Tetris Gold                       54
 Hell Cab (Mac)                    69  TFX*                              79
 Herald Tribune Intnl Travel Guide 29  Things Change 1'st Time           69
 Heroic Tales (MPC)                59  Time Desert Storm (OEM)           19
 Heroic Tales (Mac)                59  Time Desert Storm (Mac)           33
 History of the World              79  Time Mag Almanac '93 (MPC) (OEM   29
 Hobbes OS/2 Archives October 1993 14  Time Man of the Year (MPC)        25
 Hobby Corner                      31  Time Traveler (Mac)              129
 Hobby Grab Bag                    11  Timetable of Arts/Entertain (OEM) 20
 Hollywood Classics                39  Timetable of Business/Polit (OEM) 20
 Hollywood the Bizarre             43  Timetable of Science/Innov (OEM)  19
 Holy Bible                        16  Timetable of Science (Mac) (OEM)  25
 Home Computer Starter Pack        30  Tony LaRussa Baseball II          55
 Home Medical Advisor Pro          63  Too Many Typefonts                12
 Hong Kong at it's Best            20  Top 2000+ Shareware (OEM)         20
 Hospitality Index                 30  Tornado (OEM)                     39
 Hot Lines                         41  Tortoise and the Hare (MPC)       42
 Hot News                          22  Tortoise and the Hare (Mac)       49
 Hot Sound and Vision              25  Total Baseball 1993 (OEM)         22
 Hot Stuff 2                       26  Total Distortion (Mac)            99
 Hound of the Baskervilles         36  Total Heart (Mayo Clinic) (MPC)   45
 House of Games                    15  Total Heart (Mayo Clinic) (Mac)   55
 House of Games II                 20  Touch the Music Duke (PC/Mac)     39
 How Computers Work (Mac)          67  Touch the Music SF Rock (PC/Mac)  39
 How it's Done                     34  Town With No Name                 59
 Hugo & Nebula Anthology 1993      29  Tranz                             36
 Hugo's House of Horrors           12  Travel Companion (OEM)            25
 Human Calculator                  29  Travel Planner Gold               49
 Humans                            34  Triple Play English (MPC)         89
 Hyper Backgammon                  29  Triple Play French (MPC)          89
 I Photograph to Remember (Mac)    34  Triple Play Spanish (MPC)         89
 Illust. Facts: How Things Work    36  Triple Tetris Challenge           34
 Illustr. World Works (PC/Mac)     36  Tropical Rainforest               36
 Images of NASA                    23  Trouble in Mind                   39
 Images with Impact (OEM)         109  Trump Castle                      28
 In Print Art Library (OEM)        24  Tuneland (MPC)                    49
 In the Company of Whales          45  Twain's World (MPC)               39
 Inca                              46  Twelve Roads to Gettysburg        29
 Indiana Jones & Fate of Atlantis  43  Twelv
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11911
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94  2:33p
Subj: PRICE LIST 5 OF 5                       Refer: NONE
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 Interactive Story Time 3          20  U.S. Civics                       26
 International Business/Econ Atla  16  U.S. History (OEM)                22
 International Intel. Factbook     59  U.S. History (Mac)                35
 Internet Docs                     24  U.S. Presidents (OEM)             27
 Internet Info                     24  U.S. Presidents (Mac)             39
 Introduction to Classical Music   45  U.S. / World Atlas                20
 Iron Helix                        75  U.S.A. East/West                 109
 Iron Helix (Mac)                  60  U.S.A. State Factbook             29
 Island Designs (2 disc) (OEM)     28  U.S.A. State Factbook (update)    22
 It All Started w/George Prsdnts   99  U.S.A. Tour                       31
 It's a Dog's Life                 53  U.S.A. Wars: Civil War (OEM)      27
 It's a Wonderfull Life (OEM)      19  U.S.A. Wars: Desert Storm (OEM)   30
 ITN World News 1992 (MPC)         60  U.S.A. Wars: Korea (OEM)          29
 ITN World News 1992 (Mac)         99  U.S.A. Wars: Vietnam (OEM)        25
 J. Schumaker New Prague Cookbook  26  U.S.A. Wars: World War II (OEM)   27
 Jack and the Beanstalk            41  USA Today: The 90's v.1           55
 Japan Business Travel             37  User's Choice Windows             19
 Jazz: A Multimedia History (MPC)  68  VGA Spectrum #1                   10
 Jazz: A Multimedia History (Mac)  59  VGA Spectrum #2                   15
 Jazz Traditions                   45  Victor Maxx Virtual Arcade        69
 JCSM Shareware Collection         19  Victor Vector: Vamp. Coffin (OEM) 36
 Jets and Props (OEM)              19  Victor Vector: Vamp. Coffin (Mac) 67
 JFK Assasination: Visual Invstgt. 39  Victor Vector Last Dino Egg (OEM) 39
 JFK Assassination Encyclopedia    39  Victor Vector Last Dino Egg (Mac) 67
 Jokes and Pranks                  10  Victor Vector Hypnotic Harp (OEM) 39
 Jones in the Fast Lane (OEM)      17  Victor Vector: Cyber. Form. (OEM) 39
 Journey to the Planets            69  Victor Vector: Telf. Ray    (OEM) 45
 Journeyman Project (MPC)          60  Video Cube Space                  69
 Journeyman Project (Mac)          50  Video Cube Sports                 69
 Jump Raven (Mac)                  69  Video for Windows                 36
 Jurassic Dinosaurs (OEM)          24  Video Movie Guide (MPC/Mac)       35
 Jurassic Dinosaurs (Mac)          49  Vietnam Explorer                  30
 Jurassic Park                     64  View from Earth                   60
 Just Fonts                        20  View from Earth (Mac)             75
 Just Games                        19  Viking Opera Guide                99
 Just Grandma and Me (OEM)         29  Virtual 3D                        29
 Just Grandma & Me (Mac)           48  Virtual Murder (MPC)              69
 Jutland                           41  Virtual Reality Starter Kit       50
 Kaa's Hunting                     35  Virus Killer Pro                  49
 Kaboom  (PC/Mac)                  49  Visions of Saturn                 20
 Kaleidosconics (MPC)              26  Vista Pro v3.0                   129
 Kathy Smith's Fat Burning System  59  Vital Signs (Mac)                 69
 KGB/CIA World Factbook (OEM)      33  Vitsie Visits Dinosaurs (PC/Mac)  39
 KGB World Fact Book               23  Vitsie Visits Outer Spce (PC/Mac) 39
 Key Fonts Pro (PC/Mac)            30  Vitsie Visits The Ocean (PC/Mac)  39
 Key Home Designer                 29  Vivaldi                           29
 Kid Fun                           46  Vivaldi (Mac)                     38
 Kid Works 2 (PC/Mac)              59  Vocabulearn French                46
 Kids Can Read: Aesop's Fables     26  Vocanulearn French (Mac)          49
 Kids Can Read: Benjamin Bunny     26  Vocabulearn Spanish               46
 KCR: Cinderella (PC/Mac)          26  Vocanulearn Spanish (Mac)         49
 KCR: Heather Hits First Home Run  23  Wacky Funsters!                   26
 KCR: Long Hard Day at the Ranch   26  Washington D.C. at it's Best      20
 KCR: Moving Gives Me Stomachache  23  Washington Times/Insight on News 119
 Kids Can Read: Mud Puddle         26  Wave Pool                         16
 Kids Can Read: Paper Bag Princess 26  Way Cool Windows                  19
 KCR: Scary Poems for Rotten Kids  26  Wayzata Desktop Pub. Bundle      129
 KCR: The Tale of Peter Rabbit     26  Wayzata Entertainment Bund (Mac) 129
 Kids Can Read: Thomas's Snowsuit  30  Wayzata Multimedia Bundle        129
 Kids Collection                   19  Wayzata Reference Bundle         129
 Kids Zoo                          69  Wayzata World Factbook '93 (OEM)  17
 Kids Zoo (Mac)                    69  Whale of a Tale                   60
 King Arthur Magic (Mac)           49  Whale of a Tale (Mac)             89
 King James Bible                  21  Whales and Dolphins               69
 King's Quest V (OEM)              17  Where in USA is Carmen Deluxe     69
 King's Quest VI (OEM)             28  Where World Carmen Deluxe (OEM)   23
 King's Quest VI (Upgrade)         30  Where World Carmen Deluxe (Mac)   69
 King's Ransom                     43  White Horse Child (OEM)           24
 Klotski Polish Puzzle             14  White Horse Child (Mac)           46
 Knowlage Adventure                64  Who Killed Sam Rupert? (OEM)      26
 Kodak Photo CD Access (OEM)       14  Wild Learning Safari              31
 Kodak Photo CD Access (Mac) (OEM) 18  Wild Places (OEM)                 16
 La Coleccion                      20  Wild Wierd and Wacky              79
 Labyrinth of Time                 57  Wild Wierd and Wacky (Mac)        79
 LAN Master                        23  Wildcat! Gold                     35
 Lands of Lore                     61  WinCD                             39
 Language Discovery                48  WinCD (OEM)                       24
 Language Discovery (Mac)          49  Wind in the Willows               69
 Language Discovery (OEM)          36  Window Master                     19
 Languages of the World (MPC)(OEM) 25  Windoware                         12
 Laser Printer Companion (OEM)     14  Windows 1993                      21
 Lasersoft Animal Magic            29  Windows Collection                26
 Lasersoft Banners                 26  Windows Explorer 2                30
 Lasersoft Clip Art and Fonts      26  Windows Heaven                    28
 Lasersoft Labels                  29  Windows Shareware Gold Vol. 3 #1  20
 Lasersoft Pinball                 26  Wines of the World (PC/Mac)       55
 Lasersoft Publisher               39  Wing Commander / Ultima VI (OEM)  19
 Lasersoft Video Gambling          26  Wing Cmmdr/Secret Miss. 1&2       68
 Last Chance to See (Mac)          41  Wing Commander II/Ult. Undw (OEM) 40
 Lawnmower Man (MPC)               69  Wing Commander II Deluxe          50
 Lawnmower Man (Mac)               69  Winning Elections (PC/Mac)        45
 Leader Board Collection           26  Wiz-Pak 6-pak CD-ROM              13
 Learn to Play Guitar (MPC)        39  Wizard of Oz                      59
 Learn to Speak English (MPC 2D)   69  Wolfpack                          49
 Learn to Speak English (Mac 2D)   89  Women in Motion                   56
 Learn to Speak French (Mac 2D)    89  Women of Venus                    26
 Learning Adventure                10  Word Tales (PC/Mac)               49
 Learning At Home: Berenstein Bear 39  World Atlas 3.0 (Mac) (OEM)       24
 Learning Fly Fishing              29  World Atlas 4.0 (MPC) (OEM)       20
 Learning Fun for Kids             29  World Circuit                     69
 Learning Heaven                   15  World Literatary Heritage         69
 Legend of Kyrandia (OEM)          34  World of Animals (Nt Ggrph) (OEM) 34
 Legend of Kyrandia (Mac)          68  World of Computer Software        33
 Legend of Oz (PC/Mac)             69  World of Shareware                35
 Leisure Suit Larry I              54  World of Software 1               29
 Leisure Suit Larry VI             69  World of Software 2               29
 Lenny's Music Tunes (DOS)         42  World of Software 3               29
 Lenny's Music Tunes (Mac)         48  World of Software Bundle          49
 Lesko's Information USA           52  World Religions                   30
 Let's Go Budget Guide CA & HI '93 25  World Traveller Vol. 1            12
 Let's Go Budget Guide US (PC/Mac) 25  World View (PC/Mac)               31
 Libris Britania                   34  World View (OEM)                  17
 LifeMap: Animals (Mac)            35  World Vision (3 discs)            38
 LifeMap Animals w/ Backbone (Mac) 35  World Vista Atlas (MPC)           40
 LifeMap: Organic Diversity (Mac)  35  World Vista Atlas (Mac)           59
 Lifestyles of Rich Fame. Cookbook 30  World War II                      39
 Lightning (cache program)         69  Worldwide Adventures              46
 Line and the Shape Eater          34  Wrath of the Demon                39
 Links Collectors CD               40  Wrath of the Demon (OEM)          19
 Linkworlds                        33  Wrath of the Gods (PC/Mac)        69
 LINUX / GNU / X-Windows           29  Writing Center (Mac)              99
 Lion's Share                      34  X11R5 / GNU                       20
 Little Red Riding Hood            46  Yearn to Learn Peanuts            65
 Loom (OEM)                        17  Yearn to Learn Snoopy             65
 Loon Magic                        59  Yoga (Multimedia)                 30
 Lord of the Rings Enhanced        50  Zillion Sounds                    25
 Lost in Time                      39
 Lost Treasures of Infocom I       50  Allsop CD Organizers     10/$70 1/$8
 Lost Treasures of Infocom II      38  Jewel Cases 50/$30 10/$7  5/$4  1/$1
 Lotus 1-2-3 v3.1 (OEM)            79  Caddies    50/$215 10/$46 5/$24 1/$5

 I also carry the complete Ziff Press line of books, and most of the IDG
 Books Worldwide "Dummies" series of books (especially the Gookin titles)!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 11912
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/11/94  2:38p
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
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>BF:>>What's the most highly recommend CD-Rom out there that supports OS/2?

>BF:> Currently a tossup between the Walnut Creek "Hobbes" disc (just updated
>BF:>November 1993) and OS/2 Box.

>Both excellent, but we've sold OS/2Box's about 5:1 over Hobbes if that's any
>indication.

 I sell Hobbes over OS/2 Box 3:1 or 4:1 so far....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Anything free is worth what you pay for it.

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From: RICHARD LEIGHTON                       Number: 11913
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 02/09/94  6:54a
Subj: Re: Bodacious Beauties                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 -=> Quoting David Vangelder to All <=-

 DV> ************************ BODACIOUS BEAUTIES ***********************
 DV> *********************** FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!! ********************
 DV> ********* FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS *********

 DV> $25.00 for the first node
 DV> $15.00 each additional node (up to five)
 DV> $12.00 each additional node (up to ten)
 DV> $10.00 each additional node thereafter

 Hi David, Whats the price to us non BBS runners ?  $ 25.00 per disk ?
 Will it be ok to upload Choice files to a BBS after buying the CD ?
 Are these all New Scans or was this disk put together from downloading
 from bbs's or % of each ?
                                                        Thanks 
                                                        Richard

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 11914
  To: RUDY BORJON                              Date: 02/11/94 10:03a
Subj: Ham radio cd..                          Refer: NONE
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RB> Looking for a strictly Ham Radio oriented cd's...new of course...

RB>Any info on this please, thanks...

There are not very many worth looking at.  Certainly not Ham Radio 3.0 or the
older HamCall by Buckmaster, for instance.  I'm very impressed with the newest
QRZ!, which promises it will be a quarterly disc.

The Buckmasters come out semi-annually, (next at Dayton in April), and have a
number of programs not found on the QRZ!, but they demand $50 per copy, far too
excessive for the product you get.  QRZ! is less than $20 in most places, I got
it for $15 at a hamfest.

Check with Brice KF9FM, on this echo, who is certain to have it, and is part of
the fraternity.

73 de K8YUW,

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * Unlike Mobil Oil, you just thought of POW/MIAs!


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From: RICHARD ROSENFELD                      Number: 11915
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/12/94 10:07p
Subj: Iron Helix                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone want to trade for Iron Helix including all documentaion.  Make me 
an offer.

Richard.Rosenfeld@Satalink.com

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From: RAIN MAN                               Number: 11916
  To: TOM COTTON                               Date: 02/08/94  4:40a
Subj: Genealogy CD Phone # Wanted             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Tom
    I saw you message:
>> > friend had and it was great.  If you would like the
 > phone number for GRS

And I would also like the phone number for GRS that has this imformation on CD.
    Thanks for your reply.
         Douglas Stansberry (Rain Man)

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From: BRAD MANNING                           Number: 11917
  To: DAVID MANZ                               Date: 02/12/94  2:37p
Subj: Continuation                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

whAT IS 7TH GUEST OEM? IS THE SHERLOCK HOLMES CONSULTING DETECTIVE GAME
FOR 20 DOLLARS THE ONE THATS MOVIE CLIPS?


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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 11918
  To: KATHY FANARA                             Date: 02/12/94 11:30a
Subj: Comptons's Int Ency                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Kathy,

Answering a msg of <09 Feb 94>, from Kathy Fanara to Ed Duchek:
total will be $28, and my address is 8418 forest ridge, san antonio, tx
78239.... put a note in on what you are buying please!


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: WADE ADAMS                             Number: 11919
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/12/94  3:59p
Subj: catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


I need and want any non adult cd-rom catalog that is out there...

if you have a cd catalog please send it to  Wade Adams
                                            box 711
                                            Southaven, ms 38671

    good cd's under $100.00 and non adult are what i'm looking for...


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From: GENE B. GOODWIN                        Number: 11920
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/13/94  9:39p
Subj: CD order                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike,

I got the backordered MacMillan Dictionary for children 2/11/94. Since this was
a back-order and I ordered 2 copies, you sent me the first copy at your at the
time current price of $29.00. Now your price list reflects a selling price of
$18.90 for the same disk. When I ordered originally you said the $29.00 was
your cost on your current supply. No problem with that, but how about a credit
for the second CD which you received with the new shipments at a lower cost.
I was charged $29.00 for the 2nd copy. I don't want a refund maybe credit on a
future purchase?

Thanks
Gene Goodwin, Sysop the Dog Squad BBS /\/\emphis TN.


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From: ROSE CITY                              Number: 11921
  To: STEVE O'BRIEN                            Date: 02/13/94 12:53p
Subj: Re: Adult CD Rom Catalog                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Steve:
Thanks for the Message:
We carry My Private Collection #1 and #2, for $39.00 each:

Give us a call, and we'll help you out:

Many thanks,

Todd Ostrer

503-257-7255 '24' Hr. voice# for Help,Orders


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From: HAROLD HAYES                           Number: 11922
  To: JIGER DESAI                              Date: 02/13/94  7:23p
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->  I've got the following CD's for sale or trade for adult or regular o
-> Southern Beauties - $30
-> Hidden Obsessions - $30
-> Local Girls, 3-in-1 disk $15
-> TSW MPC encyclopedia v 1.5 - $50
-> Rebel Assult - $37
-> Iron Helix - $45
-> Streets Atlas USA - $66   (I payed $130 at SAM'S)
-> Kings Quest 6, MPC - $17
-> Kama sutra - $29
-> ----------------- - - - - - - - - --   -   --   --   ---  ----    - -
-> non-cd-games-for sale or trade also
-> Ultima 7 - $27
-> Sherlock Holmes, the lost files - $27
-> Maxium OverKill Comache - $24
-> Space quest 1, VGA - $10
-> Day of the Tentacle - $33
-> Turbo Pascal 6.0, only have original disks - $10
-> About it, my # is 205-297-7406
-> But you probally woun't find me there, I'd between 11-12, 1/2 the cos
-> phone bill. Just reply, call if you really need to...

 This is to confirm our phone conversation on Sunday 02-13 7p...
The check for local girls is on it's way.
Harold


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From: TONY WHITE                             Number: 11923
  To: DICK WALSH                               Date: 02/13/94  2:38p
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dick Walsh keyed in the following blurb to Tony White:

DW> Tony  I sent you a check for the CD's you offered   We
DW> talked twice on the phone about them    Did you ship them to
DW> me via UPS.   I am not worried as I know you have to have
DW> time to let the check clear.  But I would like to know when
DW> you do ship them.  <Dick>

I have received your check, and you should by now have received
the CD's.  SnailMail is horrible.  Yes, I did ship UPS.

-TWhite

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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 11924
  To: MAC CD OWNERS                            Date: 02/12/94 11:11p
Subj: Apple Service Info CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Surplus Apple Service Info CD's (Service Source CDROM) Jan 93 edition

  * Close-Out Special *** $13 Including Shipping *** only 60 CD's Left *

   Contains 75mb of information on servicing Apple products including
   compact, modular and notebook CPU's, printers, monitors and network
   products. Extensive exploded views of assemblies, including service,
   disassembly and adjustment procedures in hypercard format for quick
   and easy reference. Covers Mac line (to 2/93) and many discontinued
   models. If you're into Macs and have a CDROM it's a great resource.

  * Brand-new discs in an over-wrapped jewel-case made by 3M for Apple *

Price: $13 (was $18) inc. shipping in the US. Call and reserve your copy
    before they're gone. Send check or money order (no COD's/plastic)

        Mail Orders: Sonoma Online, POB 7518, Santa Rosa CA 95407 
    Local Sales: Visit our office at 3928 Sebastopol Rd., Santa Rosa CA
 707.545.0746 Voice * 707.526.9473 FAX * don.kulha@f7.n125.z1.fidonet.org



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From: RON CANNON                             Number: 11925
  To: VIC HLUSHAK                              Date: 02/13/94 12:16a
Subj: CD-ROM MAGAZINE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have purchased 3 Nautilus CD'S  They are very good and filled with
lots of interesting multi-media stuff.  I bought a mini-subscription
that includes 2 cd's at Comp-USA.  They ran about $25.00 for them.
I think it is about $135.00 for a whole year and you get a cd every month
for one year.

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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 11926
  To: CHUCK DAVIS                              Date: 02/12/94  7:38a
Subj: RANDOM HOUSE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks chuck, I was looking for the disk only, but may have to go for the book
also. Mailorder has it for $70.  Thanks!

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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 11927
  To: MICHAEL BLITCH                           Date: 02/13/94 10:00a
Subj: Storm ii                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I've already sold the Storm Cd's,but I'm interested in the following CD's:

-> Dracula Unleashed
-> Star Wars Chess (for Windows)
-> Star Trek: 25th Anniversary (Enhanced)

Could you tell me what you would sell these 3 to me for?

Thanks,

                              Diana


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From: LARA COLLINS                           Number: 11928
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94 10:58p
Subj: **FOR SALE**                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FOR SALE


I have the following items for sale:


2-1x3x70 SIMMS (30 pin)...................60.00

2-1x9x70 SIMMS (30 pin)...................65.00

1-2400 Baud Int. Modem (Rockwell).........20.00

1-Seagate HD (ST3120A) 107 MEG............94.00 (IDE)

1-Western Digital (C280) 85 MEG...........74.00 (IDE)

2-ATI VGA Wonder-16 VGA Cards w/256k......25.00 Each

1-5 1/4 FD (1.2)..........................30.00

1-3 1/2 FD (1.44).........................35.00

1-Packard Bell 386sx25 Motherboard w/case.30.00 (Dead?) 

Purchaser assumes responsibility for shipping and C.O.D fees.

All merchandise is used and guaranteed against defect 
unless otherwise stated.

All offers for trades are welcome.



... I'll buy, sell and trade ANYTHING...
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

                          VQWK 6.20 [Rev G - 01/23/94]

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From: MERLOCK THE GREAT                      Number: 11929
  To: ZEN                                      Date: 02/14/94 12:11a
Subj: Logoff message                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Okay, thanks I figured it was something like that.
                                                                -MtG

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From: RICHARD MCNULTY                        Number: 11930
  To: LEW MURRAY                               Date: 02/13/94 12:40p
Subj: Mitsumi Upgrade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LM-->No catch.  But a deal has already been made.  I just didn't need a
LM-->double spin so I took an LU005 + $80 in trade for my new FX001.  I do
LM-->have a source for purchasing FX001 drives.  If you want one for $205
LM-->plus S&H, let me know.

Ok.  I'l consider that offer.  Sorry I missed the first one.

Richard


 * SLMR 2.1a * Let the meek inherit the earth, I want the stars!

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From: ROD JESSEN @ 910/512                   Number: 11931
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/02/94 10:17a
Subj: Night Owl 10 -Yet Another               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Got a report from a caller who downloaded ACPRO110.ZIP from the Night
Owl 10 CD rom. She states she unzipped it and it trashed her root
directory and all the files. The file seems to pass a virus scan by
Mcafee, but this is yet another instance of a file from NO 10 being bad.
I now have 10 and 11 online, but might have to consider another CD rom
source if this kind of stuff keeps happening. I did nothing with
ACPRO110.ZIP except list its contents and read its diz file, which seem
legit, but other than that, I was willing only to delete the file. I
don't have the inclination to see if I can recreate my caller's problem
<g>.


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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 11932
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94 12:21p
Subj: Comptons's Int Ency                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have (2) Comptons's Interactive Encyclopedia's for sale.  These are the
windows version 1.01VW.  My price is $35 + P&H.  reply back soon, I do not
think these will last very long!!!!!!!



Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: JASON CROPPER                          Number: 11933
  To: JIGER DESAI                              Date: 02/13/94  5:53p
Subj: X-RATED? WHAT'S BEST?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Jiger Desai to Jason Brothers dated 02-11-94 ***
>  There is a good one called Southern Beauties. Has about 600 megs of 
> gifs. There are 400megs of 1024x768x256 and 200megs of 640x480x16mil.
> Good resolution pictures, I've got it if you want to buy it off of me.

How much?

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From: RAY KOTARA                             Number: 11934
  To: JIGER DESAI                              Date: 02/13/94  8:20p
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll give ya $25 for souther b shipped.  lemme know if its a deal.  
 

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From: BILL PARROTT                           Number: 11935
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/12/94 11:06p
Subj: Wanted Chinon  CDS-435                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I'am looking for 2 Chinon CDS-435 internal CD-ROM drives with the 40 pin
 interface, with or without interface cards. Must be in good shape and
 warrentied against DOA. Please reply here or call 1-208-375-3844.

Bill

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From: TOM GUELKER                            Number: 11936
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94  9:05a
Subj: Mitsumi wanted!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


I want your old broken Mitsumi CD readers! Model LU002S or 005S
Prefer non-working since I'm cheap and a little dangerous with a
soldering iron..
Reply with model #, asking price and voice phone number.
Regards,
Tom Guelker
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From: TOM GUELKER                            Number: 11937
  To: RICHARD MCNULTY                          Date: 02/13/94  8:51a
Subj: Mitsumi Upgrade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RM>OK..I'll bite.  What's the details.  I just had an old Mitsumi decide
  >that it no longer wants to work.  Does it count in this offer?

RM>Richard

I want your old broken Mitsumi CD readers! Model LU002S or 005S
Prefer non-working since I'm cheap and a little dangerous with a
soldering iron..
Reply with model #, asking price and voice phone number.
Regards,
Tom Guelker

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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 11938
  To: EDDIE IMPERIAL                           Date: 02/13/94  2:22p
Subj: Re: Cd Trades!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Eddie Imperial to All <=-

 EI> I have a couple of CD'S trade or forsale.... listed below!

 EI> 2. Digital Dreams 1
 EI> $23.00
 EI> 3. Swimware 93
 EI> $20.00
 EI> 4. Giffy Gold
 EI> $24.00

 EI> Only adult or swimware disks wanted. No Full Motion.

I'll trade my "Sizzle" CD for any one of the above
 
... Voice: 919-870-6926 (eves/weekends)
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From: BRIAN DHATT                            Number: 11939
  To: JASON KIMENKER                           Date: 02/11/94  6:50p
Subj: CD-ROM Drives CHEAP!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

09 Feb 94 09:26, Jason Kimenker wrote to All:

 JK> Mitsumi   001D   300k/sec 250ms   Includes interface   ** $235 **
 JK> Panasonic  CR562 300k/sec  250ms   Includes interface   ** $229 **

How much to get these in external casing?

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From: JOHN FRANCE                            Number: 11940
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/14/94  8:26p
Subj: COMPTON'S 94                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike do you have catalogs of all the titles that you have if you do send
me one at:
john france
7881 b corsair dr.
millington,tn
38053
                 Thanks John
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From: JOHN FRANCE                            Number: 11941
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94  8:29p
Subj: 7TH GUEST & CLUE BOOK                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the 7th Guest with the video and offical strategy guide that I
will let go for $50 (firm) prepaid and I'll take care of shipping.
Leave message and phone number and I'll get back to ya. John
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From: ROSE CITY                              Number: 11942
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94  8:47p
Subj: Adult CD List!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
   ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
  Visa, Mastercard Accepted!

  Pacific Data Graphics Inc.

 *    W O R L D      W I D E      S H I P P I N G    *

     Adult Titles (Must state age 18+)
     ---------------------------------
 Adult Reference Library ......31.00    Moving Fantasies..............39
 After Dark Trilogy (Movie)....45.00    Mystique of the Orient (Mov)..46
 All Beauties (New!)...........39.00    Nightwatch Interactive (Mov)..48
 Amateur Models (New!).........39.00    PC-PIX 1......................39
 Animation Fantasies 1.........39.00    PC-PIX 2......................39
 Animation Fantasies 2.........39.00    Phone Sex (WAV recordings)....29
 Asian Ladies..................39.00    Adult Sampler.................19
 Betrayal (Movie)..............55.00    Physical Therapy..............29
 Busty Babes vol 1 rel 3.......44.00    Porkware 1....................39
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......39.00    Porkware 2....................39
 Debbie Does Dallas (Movie)....49.00    Private Collection 1..........39
 Deep Throat (Movie)...........49.00    Private Collection 2..........39
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......51.00    Private Pictures..............39
 Digital Dreams................39.00
 Dirty Talk (Movie)............45.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........39
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............39.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc..........49
 Erotic Encounters 1...........39.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........59
 Erotic Encounters 2 (New!)....39.00    Seymore Butts Interactive (M).59
 Extreme Delights (New!).......39.00    Smutware......................39
 Giffy Gold....................39.00    So Much Stareware.............39
 Girls of Vivid 1 (New!).......49.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......39
 Girls of Vivid 2 (New!).......49.00    Storm 1.......................39
 Hidden Obsessions (Movie).....52.00    Storm 3.......................39
 High Volume Nudes (New!)......39.00    Super Smutware (New!).........39
 Hot Pix 2.....................39.00    Storm 2.......................39
 Hot Pix 3.....................39.00    T&A 2 the Maxx................39
 Hot Pix 4.....................39.00    Total Fantasy (New!)..........39
 Hot Pix 5.....................39.00    Visual Fantasies..............39
 Kama Sutra (Movie)............49.00    Volcano.......................39
 Lovely Ladies II..............39.00    Wild Women (New!).............39
 Luscious Ladies (New!)........39.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29

 101 Sex Positions 1...........45.00    Best of Vivid (Movie).........49
 101 Sex Positions 2...........45.00    Bustin Out! (Movie)...........49
 Cat & Mouse (Movie)...........55.00    FAO 3 Disk Set................69
 Foxes.........................39.00    Gay World 1..(Gay)............49
 Gay World 2......(Gay)........49.00    GBL (Gay,Bi,Lesbian)..........39
 Girls of J. Stephen Hicks.....40.00    Girls of Vivid 2..............49
 Glamour Girls 1943............59.00    Hot Hunks......(Gay)..........49
 House of Dreams (Movie).......52.00    House of Sleeping Beauties....49
 King Dong (Movie).............52.00    L.A. Strippers (Movie)........49
 Legends of Porn (Movie).......49.00    Lovely Ladies 2...............41
 Manpower....(Gay).............49.00    My First Time (Movie).........48
 NixPix Hot Pix 1..............OUT!!    Paradise Club (Movie).........56
 Pixure Rom 1..................39.00    Pixure Rom 2..................39
 Pixure Rom 3..................39.00    Pixure Rom Triple Exposure...102
 Q69...........................36.00    Secrets (Movie)...............44
Tranz...(Chicks with Dicks)...39.00
 Wicked (Kodak Photo CD).......53.00    Wicked (Movie)................55

  Many New Adult titles Not listed, Call Our '24'Hr. BBS for the Latest
  Catalog: Or call 1-503-257-7255  for Help, Questions:

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 INFO/ORDERS..........503-257-7255..24hrs   World Wide Shipping Via
 BBS (Line 1) ........503-257-7264..24hrs   Federal Express: Call Our BB
 BBS (Line 2).........503-257-7341..24hrs   For our Huge Catalog of Over
 ORDERS ONLY!       1-800-400-7255..24hrs   * 1100 * Titles,and Descript
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Shipping is: $6.00 for up to '5' Cd's (2lbs).  (U.S.A. Only)
International Orders Please Include $12.00 for up to '5' Cd's
for Shipping:

     *************  Call 1-800-400-7255 *************
For your ORDER Today:

**********************************************************
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Over '3000' Original Gif's, NEVER Seen Anywhere Before:
File.BBS Descriptions, NO BBS Adds! All Orginal From 640x480 to 1024x768
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From: RICHARD BUNTON                         Number: 11943
  To: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                        Date: 02/13/94  9:57a
Subj: sdult cd's trade/sell                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*******  Original Msg. From: Frank Cirillo Jr.  To: Richard Bunton  *******
       
FC*  Hi Richard:
  *
  *  Thanks for your offer, however I already have Cinemania 1994. If 
  * there is anything you have for trade or wish to buy, please let me 
  * know. Thanks again; -=Frank=-
  *****************************************************************************

Hi Frank...

I'm sorry, I have a lot of other CD's...But nothing I care to
trade at the moment.

The only thing I don't have is any "ADULT" CD's... 

I thought I should have at least one... 

Maybe next time...I watch the conference every day. I'll watch for
anything from you.

Thanks for taking the time to answer.


         *************             ***************
 *********  Richard  *********     *  ** * * * * *
         *************             ***************

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From: DOUG MCCLELLAN                         Number: 11944
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/13/94  3:26p
Subj: backorders                              Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> DM:>Mike; I'm awaiting word on a disk I've had on backorder for two m
-> DM:>now - Seedy rom 7th heaven. Can you fill me in on whether you wil
->
-> Yes, sorry Doug.  They have been out of production for some time, and
-> not stock them.  Look for our adult CD price list in this packet for
-> complete listing of all the titles we carry.  Feel free to pick an
-> alternate, or if you wish I can refund your money.

A refund would be great. If you could include a current cd listing, that
would be even better. Thanks for the reply, and let me know if you no
longer have my address on file.  -Doug


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From: ADAM GILBERT                           Number: 11945
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94  7:11p
Subj: TOSHIBA 3201 FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Everyone!

I have the following SCSI CD-ROM drive for sale...

External Toshiba XM3201
Future Domain TMC-850 SCSI/SCSI-2 Controller
350ms, 150kb/s Data Transfer Rate (MEETS MPC STANDARDS)
Cable and Drivers Included
7th Guest, and other software included

Price: $250.00 + Shipping

Please contact me at the following:
VOICE: (515)221-9840 4pm-8pm CST
BBS: (515)221-9859 or (515)221-0745 24hrs


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From: BRIAN ELFERT                           Number: 11946
  To: DAVID SHORT                              Date: 02/13/94 11:28a
Subj: DRM 600                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->      Considering this unit sells new for around 500 exactly what do y
-> to get out of it.  I'm interested but not rich.  As long as it's in t
-> with all hardware /software I'll offer $400.

It only sells new for $500 in your dreams.  I bought a DRM 600A in late
Dec. for $699 new.  I called about 40 different places and only a few
had them.  The next lowest dealer wanted $739 and the highest wanted
about $800 for a DEMO drive.

$400 is a ridiculous offer for a DRM 600.  Considering that the DRM 600
is no longer made and it's replacement is at least $850, $500 is the
LEAST a used DRM 600 should fetch.

Brian


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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 11947
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 02/13/94  5:25p
Subj: Mitsumi From $139                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Mitsumi LU-005s CDrom drive - $139.00 
    fast single speed drive with 350ms access time & 175k xfer rate. 
    has 32k built-in buffer & will read multisession kodak photocds
 
       Mitsumi FX-001d Cdrom drive - $219.00 
    lightning fast double speed drive w/250ms access & 350k xfer rate. 
    comes with 64k built-in buffer & reads all kodak photo cds
 
     SHIPPING ON CDROM DRIVES:  $7.00          COD add $4.50 
   SO MUCH SHAREWARE/2 Disk only $12 with purchase of above drive.
 
     SPYR, Inc  PO Box 89  Erie PA 16512   Int'l Orders Accepted 
      Phone (814)864-4666 or fax in your order at (814)864-3993

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 11948
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 02/13/94  5:37p
Subj: Hot CDrom Prices                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
World Of Shareware 3-disk set, update to world vision, 2000+megs $29.00 
CD Deluxe pack (Chessmaster 3000/Mavis Beacon/US & World Atlas)  $29.00
 
Night Owl's v11 Shareware  $29.00    Publish It v2           $29.00 
Any 2 Dr Series Disks      $25.00    So Much Modem Madness   $25.00 
Mantis XF5700 Fighter      $29.00    INCA Multimedia CD      $35.00 
MPC Wizard 2.0             $15.00    PC Karaoke bundle       $25.00 
Shareware Avalanche        $15.00    So Much Shareware 2     $15.00

 
   SPYR Inc, Multimedia Warehouse   PO Box 89   Erie PA  16512
 
       (814)864-4666 - Order      (814)864-3993 - Fax
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From: CHRIS JOHNSON                          Number: 11949
  To: PHILIP BROWN                             Date: 02/13/94  9:59a
Subj: Super CD Disc Savings                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 PB> [  ]    SoundWare Collection   $22.00 10,000 
 PB> MUSIC/SOUND FILES! .CMF, .CMS, 
 PB>                                      .MID, .MOD, .ROL, .SND, .VOC, & .WAV

        I'm very interested in this CD for JUST the .mod's.  can you
        send me a file list of just the .mod's so I can compare it
        for dupes that I already have?
                Does it have files.bbs?

                        If so.. netmail a copy OF THE MODS to
                              Chris Johnson
                              1:130/801.2

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From: BILL HENDERSON                         Number: 11950
  To: BRAD WARTMAN                             Date: 02/11/94 10:43a
Subj: CDs for sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'll take the Corel Photo disk for your asking price. Give me a call at
704-393-5211 and we'll work out the details. Thanks

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 11951
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/08/94 11:32p
Subj: SCSI CD-ROM $125                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Toshiba 3101 Internal Drive (350ms access time, 170kb transfer rate)
drive $125. This drive is ideal for sysos to expand their storage capacity.
Single External Drive Case $60
Dual External Drive Case $80
7 bay external Case $250
16 Bix SCSI Card $75
 
To order or me information, please call
GroupWare 1-206-472-1400
Fax: 206-473-1634
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 11952
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94 12:31a
Subj: CD-ROM catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If you like to be in our mailing list ot receive our latest catalog and special
offers, please call or write to
 
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
Tel 1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
Fax 1-206-473-1634 or 1-800-277-5179 

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 11953
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94 12:34a
Subj: New adult titles (coming)               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We have two new adult titles (full copyrighted and first time published) coming
out very soon. Both end users and sysops will love them!...
 
GroupWare

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From: RICHARD BILLINGSLEY                    Number: 11954
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94 12:41a
Subj: WORM OPTICAL DISC DRIVERS               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To All Users,

    I am searching for two things (1) I am looking for the BBS number to
Corel Corps to see if they have updated drivers for my WORM drive, or
(2) if you know where I could find some please let me know. It would be
greatly appreciated.

    Also I have about 15 SCSI hard drives I am selling. They range from
60 meg to 354 meg. If interested please leave me a message.
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From: STEVEN                                 Number: 11955
  To: MALIBU                                   Date: 02/14/94 12:46p
Subj: New User Message                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hey there just browsin'...
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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 11956
  To: KERRY SPINDLER                           Date: 02/13/94 10:53p
Subj: comptons                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

kerry,

I seem to have missed you, and am very hard to get a hold of outside this echo,
working weird hours and all......  If you are still interested, I can do the
deal in either of 2 ways..

1.  prepayment... you ship me $38 check/Money order and I will ship you the CD
when I get it(no waiting on the check to clear).

2.  COD... you send me your address, and I will shoot it to you COD.  this will
be $35 + P&H + COD costs...

either way, shoot me a note and will conclude this if you want it still.
sorry it took so long to get back with you, but my hours lately have been
LONG and weird... not too good of a combination.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: BILL JONES                             Number: 11957
  To: ANYONE                                   Date: 02/13/94  1:46p
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 I have the following CD's for sale.
 
 Nightowl 7
 California Collection
 Gigabyte Gold
 Jem Disc
 Shareware Bonanza (3 disk set)
 
 Asking $50.00 and will pay shipping.

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From: JOHN COOK                              Number: 11958
  To: DAN PROCIV                               Date: 02/14/94  9:50a
Subj: Re: !FREE ADULT CD CATALOG!             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 SS>> For the Largest Adult CDrom Catalog Available just send us your mailing
 SS>> info
 John H. Cook
 PO Box 4801
 Greensboro, NC
 27404

 SYSOP of The Guilford Program Exchange. Over 21!

... John Wayne Bobbits' new name...Les Johnson
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 11959
  To: LARA COLLINS                             Date: 02/15/94  6:59p
Subj: **FOR SALE**                            Refer: 11928
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> 2-1x3x70 SIMMS (30 pin)...................60.00

-> ... I'll buy, sell and trade ANYTHING...

Not in this echo - CD ROM products only.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 11960
  To: ROD JESSEN @ 910/512                     Date: 02/15/94  7:03p
Subj: Night Owl 10 -Yet Another               Refer: 11931
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> Got a report from a caller who downloaded ACPRO110.ZIP from the Night
-> Owl 10 CD rom. She states she unzipped it and it trashed her root
-> directory and all the files. The file seems to pass a virus scan by

Rod, unless you have *first hand* knowledge that this is true, don't
throw it up.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 11961
  To: RICHARD BILLINGSLEY                      Date: 02/15/94  7:17p
Subj: WORM OPTICAL DISC DRIVERS               Refer: 11954
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

->     I am searching for two things (1) I am looking for the BBS number
-> Corel Corps to see if they have updated drivers for my WORM drive, or

Get Corel's "CD Power PAK"... It has the latest drivers for most
anything.  It's at CompuUSA and elsewhere.

Included in the Corel CD POWER PAK is a "Sound Clips" CD ROM disc.
That's my SoundWAV Volume I ;).

SoundWAV Volume II is done and will begin distribution next week.

SoundWAV rules.

tim
entreprenuer
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From: JAMES POLLOCK                          Number: 11962
  To: MICHAEL BLITCH                           Date: 02/13/94  2:43a
Subj: Re: Used & NEW CDs                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Michael Blitch to All <=-

 MB>                   I am especially interested in getting any of these :
 MB> storm series, Fao series, Flame, Forbidden Subjects, or T&A to the
 MB> Maxx.

I'd suggest buying T&A 2 the Maxx direct from the publisher--see the
Profit Press ad in the Shopper--they have (had?  I only get a Shopper
every 4-6 mo.s) it at $12.95

If you really do want to avoid spending any $$$, I'll swap you mine
for REBEL ASSAULT or the two X-wing Add-on packs, or for the SB
board, or maybe one of the others you listed.


... Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN                      Number: 11963
  To: CARL STONE                               Date: 02/14/94 12:21p
Subj: Genealogy CD's Wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Good afternoon Chris.....I run a BBS with quite a few
 > subscribers who
 > are into Genealogy.....can these CDs be run from
 > inside a BBS????

I have no idea, but would assume not. I have never ordered any genealogy cdroms
as I am just starting to "get into genealogy". I barely know how to find the
local LDS Family History Center. <G>

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From: TERRY GREENMAN                         Number: 11964
  To: SAM GOH                                  Date: 02/13/94 11:00a
Subj: Re: CD's for trade sale....             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Sam Goh to All <=-

 SG> Anyone intrested in the following?
 SG> -Compton's MM encyclopedia
 SG> -Lotus 123 for Windows
 SG> -Macromind Action
` SG> -Wing Commander 2 deluxe
 SG> All CD's...  Will consider all offers....

 SG> -!- QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Beta-13)
 SG>  ! Origin: What are those little round things for anyway? (1:362/301)
 SG> 
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From: TERRY GREENMAN                         Number: 11965
  To: STEVE HARPER                             Date: 02/13/94 11:09a
Subj: Re: JFK CD....                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Steve Harper to All <=-

 SH> Does anybody know where I can get a JFK CD?  I saw one advertised on
 SH> CNN Future Bytes segment, it said it would be out this year,  it has
 SH> re-runs of the shooting, any name that was in any way related to the
 SH> assasination etc. If anybody knows where I can order one.. please
 SH> leave me a message.. 
 SH> Steve

Steve,

I hope this info helps.  I have a catalog (NICE with color pics ect.)
From PC Zone. Phone is 1-800-258-2088. And on page 64 of thier current
catalog has the J.F.K. A Visual investigation and JFK Assassination and
Midnight Movie Madness with Gilbert Gottfried for $79.00 for all three a
savings of $39.96 if bought seperately. You can give them a call at the
number above (I did) and have them send you a catalog.  Hope that helps
ya guy.


... ARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! ... Tension breaker, had to be done.
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From: AZMAT BUTT                             Number: 11966
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/12/94  1:07p
Subj: HARD DRIVES AND SOUND CARDS             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF ANYONE OUT THERE HAS A HARD DRIVE OR A SOUND CARD TO
SELL.  I'M LOOKING FOR A 8,12,16 BIT SOUND CARD.  SOUNDBLASTER/ADLIB TYPE AND
COMPATIBLE.  IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN OFFER ON ANYTHING PLEASE LEAVE A
MESSAGE AND YOUR PHONE NUMBER.
ALSO, I AM INTERESTED IN ANYONE WHO HAS A HARD DRIVE TO SELL.  85 TO 170 MEGS
WOULD BE FINE.  IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN OFFER ON ANYTHING PLEASE LEAVE A
MESSAGE AND YOUR PHONE NUMBER.
THANKS


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From: STEVE HARRIS                           Number: 11967
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94  4:37p
Subj: FREE Used Software Ads                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    - - - -  The SecondWare Trader publication  - - - -

    I've run across an interesting publication which is mailed monthly
    (first slass postage) to paid subscribers.  It is the SecondWare Trader
    and it contains classified ads for used and bargain priced commercial
    software (no shareware).  Most of the classifications are for IBM-PC 
    software, but there are also classifications for Apple, Commodore. etc.

    They currently are accepting FREE ads for the next issue, and they have an
    introductory special for only $6 which includes four issues and a copy of
    "Buying and Selling Used Software", a manuscript which explains in plain
    language probably everything you always wanted to know about transferring
    used software. (Canada and Mexico is $8, Foreign is $9.) You DON'T have to
    subscribe to get the FREE ad.

    Their address is: The Secondware Trader - Dept. S, P.O. Box 23604, 
    Charlotte, NC 28227.  They have a 24-hour automated voice-mail telephone
    number, 704-573-1246, which can be used to place an ad or request 
    information, and they can be contacted on CompuServe (71613,313).  If you 
    prefer, I can forward an ad or further information requests to them if 
    you reply to this message.  When sending a used software ad, be sure to 
    include a mailing address and/or telephone number for people to respond 
    to your ad.



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From: BLACK MAGIC                            Number: 11968
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94  9:51p
Subj: WANTED DRAWING PROGRAMS                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DOES HAVE A GREAT DRAWING PROGRAM WITH LOTS OF ART TO GO WITH IT ON A CD?

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From: ANDY BRICK                             Number: 11969
  To: MICHAEL BLITCH                           Date: 02/14/94  5:51a
Subj: Re: Used & NEW CDs                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting MICHAEL BLITCH to ALL <=-

 MB> I have any of the items
 MB> below for trade or sale. All items have origional docs, disks, &
 MB> boxes. I will consider any trade and will accept 2 for 1 trades(two of
 MB> my stuff for your one). I am getting rid of these because of already
 MB> solving them all. I am especially interested in getting any of these :
 MB> storm series, Fao series, Flame, Forbidden Subjects, or T&A to the
 MB> Maxx. 
 MB> CD-Roms...

 MB> Dracula Unleashed
 MB> Star Wars Chess (for Windows)
 MB> Star Trek: 25th Anniversary (Enhanced)
 MB> Rebel Assault (NEW! Package still shrink-wrapped!!!)
 MB> Mortal Kombat   
 MB> Leisure Suit Larry 5  
 MB> Star Trek: Judgement Rites   
 MB> Strike Commander                   Spear of Destnity(commercial
 MB> version) 
 MB> X-wing Stragety Guide
 MB> Strike Commander Playtesters Guide
 
I'm interested in the above software and books. Could you attach a 
price tag. I also have a few items for trade: Wing Commander 1/Ultima 6 
CD-Rom, Wing Commander Academy, Wing Commander 1 (Disk Set) Codename Iceman, 
and F15 Strike Eaagle III. If you're not interested in a trade let me know 
what you want cash wise. Thanks. Later 



... Tag line thievery ... On the next Geraldo!
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From: TED KIDD                               Number: 11970
  To: LLOYD NICKENS                            Date: 02/14/94 10:01a
Subj: OS/2 2.1 CD-ROM Edition                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The only thing I said was that you could get OS/2 2.1 Upgrade for $80.  I
didn't even know that there was a Windows version out.  BTW, I did call IBM and
asked about the Windows version and it WAS NOT a full blown version.  Shows
what you know...
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 11971
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94 10:43p
Subj: Best CDROM Prices                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Aminet Amiga...Near 600 meg from Aminet Interet Archives.....**..14.50
AMSoft (Ham)...Thousands of ham shareware/ham related programs...26.95
A.S.P...Best of ASP Association Authors Shareware................18.95
Big Sky 1-for SYSOPS,7M+files,660+mb,easiest/fast to install.**..26.00
BigSky 2-TOP DRAWER-for Sysops-all '93-no dupes/legal issues.**..19.00
C Users Group Library...User supported source code-dos,unix,cpm..26.45
CD Powerbox #1..6,858 files-50 categories-all '91-'92 files..**..18.95
CD Powerbox #2 (1993)........................................**..19.95
Cream of the Crop II...(all new 1993)........................**..24.95
EMS Professional Sharew Libraries..specialized sharew collection.23.95
Garbo MSDOS/MAC Shareware...About 250mb DOS/125mb MAC-made 5/92..14.50
Giga Games...3000+ MSDOS/Windows games/educational programs..**..18.95
Gigabyte Gold...13,111 files-99 categories-all '89-'91 files.**..14.95
Libris Britannica...600+mb British shareware-tech/scientific.**..29.95
Lion Share...4208 files-400+ meg-50% '91/50% '92 shareware...**..21.95
Monster Disc...2 CDS-all 1992 shareware with book............**..37.95
Monster Media '93 #3..Sequel to Monster-400+mb-all '93-book..**..25.95
Nightowl 6.0.................................................**..14.95
Nightowl 7.0..........600+mb-'91/92-6M+ files-50+ categories.**..14.95
Nightowl 8.0..........600+mb-'92/93-5M+ files-50+ categories.**..14.95
Nightowl 10.0.........600+mb-all '93-5M+files-70% after 6/93.**..25.95
Nightowl 11.0.........600+mb-all '93-4M+files-70% after 9/93.**..28.95
Nightowl Bus. Applications...Best of Nightowl business shareware.14.95
Nightowl Games...............................................**..18.95
Nightowl Graphics...All gifs.................................**..24.95
Nightowl Windows.............................................**..24.95
OS/2 Archives-Hobbes..3000 files-600+mb-shareware/freeware.......14.50
OS2/Box...From the makers of CD Power/Winbox-3)0+ m.........**..23.95
Otherware (2/93)..MAC/Amiga shareware,600+meg,DOS filenames..**..21.95
PC Sig #13.......................................................24.45
PC Sig #10...Great collection of shareware-'92...............**..16.95
PC Sig #11...Professional collection-3700+-'92-'93...........**..17.95
Phoenix #3...600+ mb shareware from 1992.....................**..11.95
Phoenix #4 (New)...Sequel to Phoenix 3-shareware.............**..16.95
Pier 3...660 meg-all 1993-3rd quarter '93 shareware..........**..22.95
Powerpak Gold...Released in 1992-Best of best-7354 files.....**..10.95
Shareware Extravaganza..(4 cds)-BBS collection-25M+ files....**..36.95
Shareware 1993 v1...5,000+ files-early '93-620mb.............**..19.95
Shareware 1993 v2...6,000 files-all '93, no dupes with v1....**..23.95
Shareware 1994 Vol.1 (1/94)..670mb,5000 files,book...........**..28.95
Shareware Explorer..(4 cds)-5 star series-26,000 files.......**..39.95
Shareware Games..6M+ files-4/93-sports,arcade,casino,solutions...21.95
Shareware On-Line #1.........................................**..25.95
Shareware On-Line #2..'93 release............................**..25.95
Shareware Overload...550mb-6100 files-wide variety of programs...11.95
Shareware Overload Trio...3 cds of shareware from Chestnut.......21.95
Shareware Studio #1..........................................**..15.95
Shareware Studio #2...637mb,6,659 files,all '92-'93 files....**..15.95
Shareware Studio #3..........................................**..16.95
Shareware Tiger...600+mb of shareware-1991...................**..19.95
Simtel 2...from internet site-9,000+ files,viewer,...........**..13.95
So Much Shareware #1.........................................**..15.95
So Much Shareware #2.........................................**..15.95
So Much Shareware #3.........................................**..21.95
Software Jukebox..new 1993 shareware programs,600+mb,185 dirs**..23.95
Software Vault #2...8000 programs,most '93,released 5/93.....**..12.95
Software Vault #3-Gold...590+mb,all '93,no dupes with 1 or 2.**..19.95
Software Vault #4-Platinum..new 1993.........................**..19.95
Software Vault Games.............................................19.95
Software Vault Windows...........................................19.95
Source Code..600+mb,15M+ files,usenet/simtel/msdos,unix/dos-3/92.19.95
Tech Arsenal..C,ASM,Pascal,VBasic,LAN,dBase,Clipper,drivers,OS/2.20.45
Technotools...Programmer shareware tools,many languages..........12.95
Top 2000 Shareware..Family/kids oriented,menu,682mb,21830 files..19.95
Win Platinum...Great collection of Windows programs..............17.45
Winbox (CD)...nice collection of windows shareware...........**..24.95
Window Master....................................................18.95
Windoware..Shareware for Win 3.1+,large variety of applications..11.95
Windows 1993...7,347 files,600+mb,'90-'92 files,many areas...**..23.95
Windows - CICA...from internet ftp site-hundreds of meg......**..14.50
X11R5/GNU Cdrom..X11R5 window system source,GNU source,Sparc.....23.95
20th Century Video Almanac.......................................28.95
7th Guest...Interactive drama in a real virtual environment......48.45
7th Guest OEM...discs with manual-no video tape in jewel case....35.95
999+ WAV Files..Over 1,500 Wav files with TidalWav Sound Player..19.95
1001 Utilities...................................................11.95
9000 Sounds..Sblaster,midi,wav,adlib,pc speaker,cakewalk,mod.**..22.95
Action Traveler..Tour over 1,000 places,MPC,city,state,country...28.95
Adventures in Heaven...Games-challenge,explore,capture,monsters..14.95
Adventures of Willy Beamish...Comedy/adventure game w/Wild Willy.19.95
Amanda Stories...Adventures of Indigo the cat & faithful camel...44.95
American Bus. Fone Book '92..10 millin busines,5000 yellow pagees.9.95
American Bus. Fone Book '93-4..11 million business,USA/Canada....18.95
American Heritage Illustrated Encycl. Dictionary..80M words/pics.36.95
Animals SD Zoo DOS..Tour 200+ animals-300+ exhibits,60 min video.14.95
Animals of the San Diego Zoo MPC (Windows).......................19.95
Arthur's Teacher Trouble..Multimedia,surprises on every page.....24.95
Audio collection,MM..effects,noe play,music mentor,band in box..26.95
Audobon Birds...1840 edition-500+ images-full text-bird calls....15.45
Audobon Mammals...Full color pallette-full text-CD quality sound.17.95
B-17 Silent Service...Select your crew and fly WWII sorties......39.95
Barney Bear Goes to School...Interactive-teaches math/reading....21.95
Barney Bear Goes to Space...Barney tours space in the shuttle....21.95
Barron's Book Notes...101 complete unabridged book notes-more....36.95
Battlechess......................................................21.95
BattleChess MPC...Multimedia animated chess game-audio/music.....29.95
Beauty & the Beast...WIN 3,multimedia storybook,interactive......24.95
Best of Micropose..Pirates,RR Tycoon,Rex Nebular,Command HQ......22.95
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Best Businesses..5800 best,tel,fax,address,zip,# emp,CEO-search..28.95
Better Homes & Garden Cookbook...................................52.95
Beyond the Wall of Stars..Futuristic adventure game beyond.......19.95
Bible Lands, Bible Stories..passport to exploring Holy Land.....43.95
Bible Library...9 Bibles, 20 references, 27 concordances.........23.95
Bibles & Religion...Many different bibles and related shareware..12.95
Birds, New Zealand..birds-how to photo,WIN,300 species,500 pics..29.95
Blue Force...Cop seeks killer of parents,great graphics..........43.95
Business Assistant..Shareware oriented for the business user.....11.95
Business Master v.3 1400+ business related shareware-600+ meg....18.95
Business Phone Dir w/Zip+........................................34.95
Cameron's Fine Art Poster Catalog..Reproductions,sculpture,info..31.95
Carmen San Diego World Deluxe...3000 clues,music,anim,graphics...21.95
Carmen San Diego - Where in USA..crime stopping chase,pics,music.58.95
Capitol Hill - DOS or MPC........................................28.95
CD Game Pack 1...6 great games...................................14.95
Cd Game Pack 2..12 games,Chessmaster 2000,Bruce Lee,Black Hole...17.95
Chess Maniac-National Lampoon...Fun way to play chess............38.95
ChessMaster 3000 MPC..from a master,learn basic to advanced.skil.17.95
Christmas Carol...The classic Charles Dickens tale...............19.95
C.I.T.Y. 2000 London...Full motion video interactive mystery.....52.95
Classic Collection (4 Pak) Sherlock,Shakespeare,Birds,Mammals....41.95
Clinton-Portrait of Victory......................................24.95
Clip Art Galore...1950 hard to find images for DTP..........**...22.95
Clip Art Goliath...11,000 images in pcx/tiff format..............12.95
Clip Art Heaven...300+ dpi images-pcx/tiff/cdr/bmp,convert/view..14.95
ClipArt Warehouse..11,000+ images in PCX/Tiff format & others....13.95
Coates Art Review...600+ images of impressionist works, info.....28.95
College Handbook 1993............................................37.95
Color Magic ClipArt..300 dpi,256 colors,royalty free............19.95
Colossal Cookbook..4M+ recipes,cross ref,health/nutrition guide..12.95
Complete Bookshop..classic,poetry,humor,cookbook,history,novels..12.95
Composer Quest...game journey to learn more about the composers..33.95
Compton's Family Choice..15 works-Body,Fiction,Math,States,Spell.43.95
Compton's Interactive Encylopedia..'94 upgrade-complete edition..69.95
Compton's MM Encyclopedia........................................42.95
Computer Reference Library...Tutorials for Lotus, Word Perf,more.12.95
Conan the Cimmerian...Explore taverns,crypts,temples-soundtrack..28.95
Consumer Information Disc..answers to questions on many subjects.34.50
Cookbook Heaven..20M recipes,ookbooks,diet/health applics,more..15.95
Cookbook USA,Jr..80000 recipes,search/view/print,full pg or 3x5..18.95
Corel Christmas Photos..100 royalty free images in Kodak format..19.95
Corel 4.0 CD Upgrade...animation,desktop publ,fonts,clipart.....213.95
Countries of the World..190 countries,30M pages,6M images,flags..99.95
Creation Stories.................................................36.95
Crossword Cracker................................................23.95
Dagger of Amon RA...role playing game by Sierra..................25.95
Dare, Bluff, or Die..Role play history of Wild West,educational..28.95
Database...Programs for Clipper,Foxpro,Paradox,dBase,Rbase.......18.95
Day of the Tentacle:Maniac Mansion 2.............................43.95
DeathStar Arcade Battles.........................................12.95
Deep Voyage...100 underwater images,100 audio clips,25 videos....34.95
Desert Storm..100's of reports,photos,recorded interviews........22.95
Desktop Bookshop..Plato,Twain,Shakespeare,Poe,Buddha,Aesop,more..17.95
Dickens Complete.................................................44.95
Dictionaries & Languages..Lessons in French,German,Russain,more..12.95
Dictionary of the Living World..Facts/photos-5M+ animal species..28.95
Dinosaur Adventure..Pics,animation,narration,sounds,educational..21.95
Dinosaurs! Encyclopedia.MPC,video/narration on evolution/fossils.23.95
Dinosaur Safari..................................................44.95
Dr. Games #2..adventure,arcade,card,sports,strategy,puzzles..**..16.95
Dr. Music #2..music editors,MOD,MIDI,sound cards,ROL,VOC,WAV.**..16.95
Dr. Windows #2..3440 files-applics,ATM,DTP,fonts,games,more..**..16.95
Doctors Book of Home Remedies..all kinds of self remedial info...21.95
Dracula Unleashed...Discover Dracula,clues,90 minutes of video...48.95
Dune..Enhanced,original music score,best fantasy adventure game..38.95
Eco Quest,Search for Cetus-Whale King-improve undersea knowledge.25.95
Education Master v2..1,000+ educational shareware programs.......19.95
Electronic Cookbook...Complete library-1800+ recipes,pics,hints..22.95
Electronic Home Library..250 books,Plato,Poe,Shakespeare,more....20.95
Electronic Library of Art..slide library of 1M+ westrn art pics..43.95
Encyclopedia of Clip Art...PCX potpourri of great clipart........23.95
Encyclopedia of Sound..250+ sound files,WAV format,royalty free..12.95
Eric the Unready...Adventure/fantasy-challenging story paths.....38.95
European Monarchs..History with bizarre details of kings/queens..33.95
Executive Factomatic..1000+ solutions to people problems.........36.95
Eye of the Beholder III...Dungeons and dragons game..............52.95
F117A/F1511 W/Scenario...........................................44.95
F15 III Strike Eagle...new instrument and weapons tutorial.......46.95
Family Doctor MPC.2000 common questions,data on 1600 drugs,pics..19.95
Fantazia Fonts & Sounds..........................................25.95
Firearms Reference..600 products in WIN/DOS BMP format.....**....18.95
Food Analyst..nutritional analysis-meals/recipes based on USDA...32.95
Fonts #1.........................................................27.95
Fresh Arte...1,500 copyright-free drawings/graphics,400 dpi......31.95
Full Bloom..100+ pics,25 movies,100 piano clips-exotic flowers...36.95
Funny............................................................28.95
Future Wars......................................................48.95
Game Arena.......................................................13.00
GameMaster (Over 500 Games)......................................19.45
Gameware Collection..............................................23.95
Games 1993...6M+ files,Apogee,unprotects,tips,arcade,flight..**..23.95
Games Platinum..excellent WIN interface,files desc & easy to use.18.95
Gardening...Photos, planning, clipart, landscaping, home garden..12.95
Gifs Galore...rated G-6,000+ GIF images-wide variety.............14.50
Global Explorer (Delorme)...Streets of major world cities........84.95
Gofer Winkles Adventure...Multimedia comic book w/story & speech.34.95
Golden Immortal..................................................24.95
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Goldilocks 3 Bears-English or French or Spanish..................38.95
Gov't Giveaways-Entreprenuers....................................47.95
Grammy Awards...Entire 34 year history,pics,45 min+ audio........33.95
Great Cities of World 1...MPC-10 cities-Moscow,Paris,NY,LA,Rio...22.95
Great Cities of World 2...Berlin,Buenos Aires,Chicago,Rome,more..22.95
Great Mystery Classics..171+ stories of mayhem and intrigue......43.95
Great Wonders of the World 1...12+ sights-Great Wall,Taj Mahal...42.95
Great Wonders of the World 2.....................................49.95
Greatest Books Collection..600 separate pieces from 150+ books...32.95
Grolier Ill. Encyl. (STW) v2.....................................21.95
Grolier Ill. Encyl. (STW) MM v5..................................34.95
Grolier Ill. Encyl. (STW) MPC v1.................................21.95
Grolier Il. Encyl. (STW) MPC v6-3M pics,7M new articles,250maps.37.95
Guide to Business Travel Europe..complete reference guide........24.95
Guiness Disc of Records - 1993...................................27.95
Gunship 2000 w/Scenario...original game with extra scenarios.....32.95
Guy Spy & the Crystals of Armageddon...breathru adventure game...22.95
Hacker Chronicles..articles on hackers,tour of underground,more..28.95
Ham Radio...Enormous collection of Ham & SWL programs & data.....12.95
Ham Radio,Scanner Companion..FCC regs,freq lists,SSTV,satellite..15.95
HamWare 1993..shareware-mod's,design,testing,analysis,packets....18.95
Hard Days Night...the famous one from the Beatles................31.95
Hell Cab MPC..bizarre people,3D graphics,1st person interactive..64.45
History of the World..prehistoric to present,major events........53.95
Hollywood: The Bizarre..lives/deaths of stars,voices,photos......36.95
Home Designer..video,images,slideshows,music,drawing tools,MPC...28.95
Home & Office Legal Guide...500 forms,contract,letter,wills......12.95
Home Library..complte text of over 250 titles-many areas........22.95
Horror & Sci-fi Films..cast/credit synapse-2300+films-photos.....37.95
House of Games #1.100s-action,adv,suspense games-90% play off CD.18.95
House of Games #2..over 400 of newest games,play from CD.........19.95
Hugo's House of Horrors..........................................16.95
Human Calculator..new/faster/better way of teaching math,drills..38.95
Icons/Wallpaper & More...variety of icons,wallpaper,win utils....28.95
Images of NASA...................................................31.95
In the Company of Whales...45 min. video,200+ pics,mm journey....37.95
Inca..restore inca,full motion video,sound,digitized speech......42.95
Indiana Jones-Fate of Atlantis..Over 200 locations to Atlantis...43.95
Inspector Gadget.................................................46.95
International Business/Economc Atlas.............................20.95
Iron Helix..sci-fi adventure,3D cinematic graphics,interactive...58.95
Island Designs...................................................36.95
J.F.K. the Assassination-A Visual Investigation..................38.95
Jack and the Beanstalk...........................................38.95
Jazz, Multimedia History...Biographies w/CD quality audio........26.95
Jets & Props..2 discs,200+ pics,200 audio clips,civil/military...29.95
Jokes & Pranks...................................................12.95
Jones in the Fast Lane.Up to 4-board game-money/career/education.18.95
Journeyman Project , The..Photorealistic 3D adventure game.......48.95
Jungle Book-KAA's Hunting........................................26.95
Jungle Book-Mowgli's Brother.....................................28.95
Jungle Book-Tiger................................................34.95
Just Fonts v1....................................................19.95
Just Grandma & Me...Ultimate adventure to explore the beach......28.95
Kathy Smith-Fat Burning Systm..create tailored workout/diet plan.54.95
Kids Zoo-Baby Animal Adv.........................................36.95
Kodak Photo CD Access CD..Software-24 dazzling pics in 6 formats.16.95
King James Bible...search chapter and verse at touch of button...24.95
Kings Quest V...King Graham embarks to rescue his family.........19.45
Kings Quest VI Upgrade...........................................28.95
Kings Quest VI..Best games ever,help shipwrecked prince alex.....43.95
Lan Master..1M+ programs/references for etwork users............22.95
Languages of the World MPC-12 languages-cross ref,dict,translate.22.95
Laura Bow II.....................................................44.95
Learning at Home.................................................49.95
Learning Adventure...ABCs,123s,high school,college,games,tutors..10.00
Learning Heaven...ABCs to SAT,type,math,read,spell,sign lang.....14.95
Legend of Kyrandia...Fantasy/role playing,100 scenes-dos or win..28.95
Let's Go:Budget Guide to USA..Best sites,motels,resturants,more..24.95
Library of the Future 1..1150+ pieces literature from 450 titles.27.45
Library of the Future 2..2M+ pieces literature from 950+ titles.228.95
Lifestyles-R & F Cookbook..Secrets of the stars..................31.95
Little Red Riding Hood...........................................37.95
Loom...Lucasfilm,interactive,adventure to land of mystical bird..18.95
Lord of the Rings...same as the classic book version.............48.95
Lost in Time...he plotted your doom centuries before your birth..24.95
MacMillan Dictionary-Children..12M+ words,1000+ pics,400 sounds..18.95
Mad Dog McCree...Arcade shooting game w/motion picture action....38.45
Magazine Rack...................................................20.95
Majestic Places...Photos-Mt.Everest,McKinley,music,more..........34.95
Manhole..........................................................35.50
Mantis..Fly XF5700 experimental fighter of future-fight aliens...18.95
Mario is Missing...Find Mario-teaches geography..................26.95
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing..Renowned,expanded help/lessons......19.95
Mayo Clinic...complete interactive family health guide...........19.95
Mega Clipart.....................................................26.95
Mega Movie Guide..Comprehensive info on 50M+ movies,search.......38.95
Microsoft Beethoven 9th Symphony..Analysis,notes,lyrics,insights.57.95
Microsoft Bookshelf 92..Concise Encyl,Am Hertge dict,more........19.95
Microsoft Bookshelf 93..Atlas,Dict,Encyl,Almanac,Quotes,Rogets...39.95
Microsoft Cinnemania '94..interactive review-21M+ movies,sound...58.95
Microsoft Dinosaurs MPC..Interactive journey thru their world....58.95
Microsoft Encarta '94...great multimedia encyclopedia............88.95
Microsoft Golf..WIN MPC edition-on par with reality..............48.95
Microsoft Mozart.................................................57.95
Microoft Stravinsky.............................................57.95
Microsoft Music Instruments..sound samples,explore instruments...57.95
Microsoft Works..word process,spreadsheet,database,draw,comm.....36.95
Midi Music Shop..................................................19.95
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Star Child.......................................................39.95
Star Trek-25th Anniversary.......................................54.95
Star Wars Chess MPC...play chess with the Star Wars characters...28.95
Stellar 7...Action arcade game,20 different enemies,7 worlds.....18.95
StickyBear Preschool.............................................36.95
Storybook Weaver.................................................39.95
StoryTime #1..Goldilocks,Red Hen,3 Bears-teaches read/spell......24.95
Storytime #2..Boy Cried Wolf,Milkmaid & Pail,Belling the Cat.....24.95
Storytime #3..Hare & Tortoise,Lion & Mouse,City/Country Mouse....24.95
Straight from Heaven..KJV,AV,ASV,Greek,Hebrew,Koran,Span,German..15.95
Street Atlas USA (v2-WIN)...Complete US streetlevel atlas........84.95
Strike Commander.................................................58.95
Super Clipart....................................................15.95
Super Fonts...collection of Adobe and Truetype fonts.............15.95
Super Games for WIN v1 or v2.....................................15.95
Super Programmer...Source code for C,paradox,dBase,Foxpro,etc....19.95
Swimwear & More (SVGA)...........................................28.95
Tempra Photo CD Software...similiar to Kodak.....................18.95
The Holy Bible...................................................31.95
Time Almanac 1990................................................14.95
TimeTable Art/Entertainmnt..Chronology-cultural,4200 stories.....22.95
TimeTable Business/Politics..Chronology-wealth,power,knowledge...22.95
TimeTable History/Science..Chronology-earth/cosmic,6000 stories..18.95
TimeTable History/Science-'93-'94..new update....................24.95
Tony Larusa Baseball..Great visuals,2500 stats,play-by-play......56.95
Tortoise and the Hare............................................38.95
Too Many Fonts..TT,ATM,WFN,1st Pub,ghost script,HP laserjet......16.95
Too Many TypeFonts.514 TT fonts,393 ATM,modifiers,uploaders,more.12.95
Total Baseball 1993...1871 to '92 world series,500+ pics,sound...22.95
Total Heart,The (Mayo Clinic)..48 videos,145 pics,60 min audio...38.95
Tropical Rainforest..100 sound/images-S.A. creatures & birds.....34.95
True Crime Stories...............................................36.95
Trump Castle & other games.......................................27.95
Twain's World..complete works-fiction/non-fiction,pics,biography.29.95
U.F.O............................................................38.95
Ultima Underworld 1 and 2........................................59.95
Undersea Adventure..3D Deep Sea Hunt,Cruises,Sea Lab,Movies,more.48.95
Unix..386BSD,Linux,NetBSD,compl sources & binaries...............27.95
USA State Factbook...............................................30.95
USA Today, the 90s v.1..multimedia capsule of 90s news/events....27.95
USA Wars-Civil War...Chronology,photos,bios,campaigns,audio......30.95
USA Wars-Korea...'50-'53-photos,stats,glossaries,bios,facts......30.95
USA Wars-Vietnam...biographies,chronology,facts,audio............30.95
USA Wars-World War II...detailed text/image/sound presentations..30.95
U.S. Atlas MPC.Explore with maps,state/region/country info,miles.24.95
U.S. Atlas/Automap...maps,demographics,enviromental,conversions..28.95
U.S. Civics...learn USA for those who want to be US citizens.....32.95
U.S. History..(Bureau).1M+ photos,maps,tables,topics,107 books...18.95
U.S. Presidents...biographies/stats on 41 presidents/1st ladies..32.95
U.S./World Atlas w/Chessmaster & Mavis Beacon (STW 4-Pak)........31.95
U.S./World Atlas...maps,demograph,conversions,oceanic,area codes.18.95
U.S./World Atlas MPC v3...windows version........................18.95
VGA Spectrum #2...thousands of gifs/sound files..................14.95
Virtual 3-D w/glasses..anaglyph 3-D pics,VGA/SVGA,699mb,menu.....21.95
Visions of Saturn................................................22.95
Wave Pool........................................................19.95
Who Killed Sam Rupert...Interactive virtual murder mystery.......20.95
Wild Places...100 stunning photos,50 audio clips-wild America....22.95
WingCommander 2 Deluxe..........................................34.95
Wing Commander 2/UUnderWrld......................................59.95
Wing Commander/Ultima 6.Revolutionary star fighter/magic-mystery.19.95
Wing Commander w/Secret Missions.................................24.95
Wolf Pack........................................................38.95
Women of Venus...all swimsuit pics from famous modeling agency...20.95
World Atlas 4.0 MPC..Explore each continent/country of the world.17.95
World View..Sound/piano music-images of earth & solar system.....22.95
World Fact Book..CIA/KGB Yearbook,Hamm.maps,flags,247 countries..17.95
World of Flight...Complete multimedia tour thru world of planes..35.95
World of Trains...Complete multimedia tour thru world of trains..35.95
World of Xeen-Might and Magic...3D animated adventure,much more..46.95
World Traveler..Hi-rez images,royalty free,pcx/gif,mm slide show.12.95
Wrath of the Demon...save kingdom,rescue princess,nice 3d pics...20.95
Zip Code 9 digit...9 digit zipcoded directory of US addresses....19.95
CD Caddies (Sony Compatible)......................................4.50
Jewel Cases.......................................................1.45
Windows 3.1 with mouse bundle....................................52.95
Pro Audio Spectrum 16 Basic.....................................138.95
Pro Audio Spectrum 16...........................................164.95
Aztech CDA268-01a...double speed internal,Kodak/MPC2,MDR........189.95
Chinon CDS535..double speed internal SCSI-2 kit,220ms access....379.95
NEC CDR900 external,Quad Speed,180ms access,600kb transfer,.....965.95
Reveal DC002 double speed internal,320ms access,300kb transfer..229.95
Sony CDU33A01..double speed internal,multisession,Kodak,320ms...189.95
Toshiba 3401 SCSI Internal (Bare)..200ms access/330kb transfer..399.95
Toshiba 3401 SCSI External (Bare)..200ms access/330kb transfer..529.00
Pioneer 602X (Bare)..600ms/double spin.....859.00...Cash Price..839.00
Pioneer 602x w/8 bit kit(avail late 1/94)..939.00...Cash Price..919.00
Pioneer 604X (Bare)..300ms/612kb transfer.1069.00...Cash Price.1039.00
Pioneer 604X w/8 bit Kit..................1149.00...Cash Price.1119.00
Pioneer 1804X (Bare) 300ms/612kb transfer.1995.00...Cash Price.1885.00
Wearnes CD015..2X speed internal,MPC2/Kodak,260ms,MSoft Books...219.95

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Airbrush Portfolio..original art,thumbnail to 3024x2058-hi rez...32.95
Art Appeal-Business..hi rez clipart,b&w/color,req WIN,viewer.....25.95
Art Appeal-Education/Leisure..hi rez clipart,b&w/color,browse....25.95
Art Appeal-Gov't/Industry..hi rez clipart,b&w/color,view/browse..25.95
Classic Cars..classics from 1884-1988,requires photo cd or corel.24.95
Fingers for Windows..multimdia typing tutor,voices-ENGL/FRE/SPA.38.95
Fingers for Windows (OEM)........................................25.95
Flowering Plants..both exotic/familiar pics-req Photo CD/Corel...25.95
Kodak Photo CD w/Processing..includes first roll of 24 processed.32.95
Landscapes..worldwide landscapes,requires Photo CD or Coreldraw..25.95
Learning Lotus 1-2-3..MM tutor w/animated graphics/sound,index...22.95
Learning Windows 3.1..MM intrctve training course,graphics,sound.22.95
Mega Media #1..image/movie files for MPC-animals,space,travel....19.95
Mega Media #2..southwest,reptiles,amphibians,birds,planes,cities.19.95
Nature Graphics..quality original scans,TGA/GIF,viewer.......**..18.95
Publisher Platinum...clip art,fonts,publish tools for Windows....18.95
Resource Library-Audio..10M+ files,1M+ sounds/effects,convertors.16.95
Resource Library-Graphics..16M+ files,426mb,convertors,ray.......16.95
Resource Library-Multimedia..13M+ files,625mb,sounds/pics/movies.16.95
Sci-Fi Games & Trivia..must for the sci-fi/trivia fans...........22.95
0002
Alone in the Dark..3-D arcade/adv,explore mansion for antiques...64.95
America Adventure..past to present history by Knowledge Adv......56.95
Interplay 10 YR Anthrology-Battlechess,Star Trek,10 games total..54.95
Key Clipmaster Pro...............................................36.95
Key Fonts Pro....................................................36.95
Key Home Designer................................................36.95
My Advanced Mail List 4.0........................................49.95
My Label Designer Bundle.........................................36.95
PC Karaoke...digital audio integration,25 customizable songs.....39.95
Quantum Gate...virtual reality fighting,full motion interactive..49.95
Speed..zoom thru history & science of speed by Knowledge Adv.....56.95
The New Family Bible MPC/MAC.....................................44.95
Think & Speak French (Hyperglot)................................129.95
Think & Speak Spanish (Hyperglot)...............................129.95
Word Tales MPC/MAC...............................................44.95
0003
9 Digit Zip Code.................................................22.95
America's Premier Shareware......................................15.95
CD Cad v3.7 (OEM)...Full featured CAD w/templates................26.95
CD Cad v3.7 (BOX w/manual)...Full featured CAD w/templates.......29.95
Curse of Enchantra...............................................29.95
Fatty Bear Birthday Surprise (Box)...............................51.95
Fatty Bear Fun Pack (Box)........................................35.95
Firearm & Shooting Sports........................................42.95
Gif Galaxy.......................................................22.95
Hospitality Index................................................32.95
Jutland..........................................................56.95
Labyrinth of Time................................................54.95
Long Hard Day at the Ranch (Box).................................28.95
Motion Picture Guide.............................................36.95
New View of Space................................................28.95
PC Animation Festival (OEM)......................................21.95
PC Animation Festival (Box)......................................23.95
Pixel Perfect Graphics...........................................19.95
Street Rods (Photo CD)...........................................19.95
Tortoise & the Hare..............................................42.95
0004
20th Century People..............................................25.95
20th Century Sports..............................................25.95
About Cows..everything you could possibly want to know...........32.95
Aircraft Encyclopedia...lots of pics/info of worldwide aircraft..32.95
Anecdotes 1......................................................15.95
Anecdotes 2......................................................15.95
Anecdotes 3......................................................15.95
California Collection...shareware, lots of religious stuff.......15.95
Career Opportunities.............................................32.95
Chaos Fractals and Magic........................................32.95
Complete Guide to Special Interest Videos........................33.95
Desktop Imager...................................................23.95
Font Master 1....................................................15.95
Font Master 2....................................................24.95
Fonts for the Professional.......................................28.95
FracTools.......................................................33.95
Fractunes (Boxed)................................................33.95
Holy Bible, The..................................................33.95
Hospitality Index................................................32.95
Hot Sound & Vision...............................................27.95
Klotski..........................................................28.95
Middle East Diary................................................33.95
Mozart: Multimedia Musicbook.....................................22.95
Multimedia Magic Collection......................................18.95
Original Shareware...............................................14.95
PC & DOS Introductory Module.....................................16.95
PC Sig H & B Collection...Best of PC Sig for home & business.....16.95
PC Sig World of Games............................................18.95
PC Sig World of Windows..........................................18.95
Programmer's ROM.................................................33.95
Q & A............................................................52.95
RBBS in a BOX 3.1................................................33.95
Reel Clips.......................................................33.95
Scouting Report '92..............................................33.95
Shareware Avalanche..............................................33.95
Shareware Heaven 1...............................................19.95
Shareware Heaven 2..............................................26.95
Shareware Online 1...............................................28.95
SigCat...........................................................13.95
Significant Series Windows CD....................................18.95
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Space Series - Apollo............................................33.95
TAO of Cow..sequel to About Cows.................................33.95
Terrorist Group Profiles.........................................33.95
Travel Companion.................................................25.95
VGA Spectrum 1..................................................14.95
0005
1000 Sound Effects..1000 great sound effects, royalty free.......34.95
14,000 Programs...Basic,bbs,business,C,CAD,DTP,educational,more..13.95
16 Bit Sound Masterpiece.........................................13.95
3D Animania......................................................13.95
49er Window Games...............................................16.95
50 Window Games...best of 50 Windows games.......................16.95
All New Clipart+Graphics Tools..original no royalty images.......21.95
All You Can Play..bricks,chess,pinball,poker,star trek,tank war..16.95
Art History Encyclopedia..800 artists,12 countries,345 pics,more.17.45
Art Appeal 1..professional,color/gray,CGM,WMF,pcx,tif,bmk,more...27.95
Art Appeal 2.....................................................27.95
Art Appeal 3.....................................................27.95
ArtShow 3 by Corel..3,300 stunning designs with midi music.......28.95
Britannica Select................................................16.95
Clip Art Library.................................................16.95
Communication Master..utilities for ham radio, Lan, networking...13.95
Companion for OS/2..graphics,multimedia,networking,utility,more..16.95
Companion for Windows..WAV files,graphics,utils,fonts,626+mb.....18.95
Companion for Wordperfect..240+ macros,fonts,drivers,dicts,more..18.95
Computer Supermarket...shareware.................................16.95
Corel v3 - floppy + CD...15,000 clips,300 fonts.................134.95
Corel v3 - CD....................................................56.95
Corel v3 - Floppy................................................89.95
Corel 4.0 Floppy + CD Upgrade...2 CDs and 3-1/2" floppies.......219.95
Game Jamboree..Hoosier City 1/2/3,True Blood,Towers,Word Bird....14.95
Health & Medical Directory..1.1 million+ businesses in US/Canada.19.95
Hot Women Hot Cars..PG rated color motion picture................16.95
Keymap..street atlas & automap in 1 box,route,print,map,more.....30.95
Learn DOS for Fun................................................16.95
Midi & Wave Workshop..688 midi,246 wav,438 mod,20 VOC files......14.95
Multimedia Audio Collection..sound studio,effects,note play,more.26.95
Music Box 1994...Mod & VOC files.................................16.95
Music Toolbox....................................................16.95
Open DOS.........................................................16.95
Photo CD Demo 1..................................................16.95
Photographic Images..color images in 640x480,72dpi,24 bit,tiff...16.95
Photo Madness....................................................16.95
Programmer Power Tool............................................16.95
Puzzlemania..300 different pictures,most popular puzzle games....14.45
Top 101 Multimedia 1993..top 101 mm collection...................16.95
Travel to Space..................................................16.95
Wildcat Gold...shareware designed for use with Wildcat BBS.......17.95
Windows Treasury...shareware.....................................16.95
Wrestling, Championship v1..3 full length pro wrestling matches..16.95
0006
A Long Hard Day at the Ranch.....................................24.95
Adobe Illustrator v5.0 Deluxe...................................429.95
Adobe Type on Call v2.0..........................................68.95
Adobe Type on Call v3.0..........................................68.95
Aesops Fables (Discus)..54 fables-music/narration/illustrations..24.95
Aesops Fables (Electronic Arts)..................................34.95
Alladin and His Wonderful Lamp...................................31.95
America Alive (Win)..75 maps,2500 pics,50 videos,1M text pages...42.95
Americans in Space...............................................53.95
American Journey 1896-1945.......................................39.95
American Vista Atlas..Pics/maps/music/audio/history/wildlife/MPC.39.95
ARCserve Autoloader Agent.......................................229.95
Artshow Bundle...................................................44.95
Asia Alive (Win)..37 maps,500 photos,300 videos,500 text pages...52.95
Aster*xMedia 2.1 Sun/Sparc CD....................................19.95
Atlas of US Presidents-MPC.......................................29.95
Berenstein Bears Learning at Home Volume 1.......................32.95
Better Homes & Garden Cookbook...................................53.95
California Traveler..............................................25.95
CIA World Tour...................................................61.95
Cinderella, The Original Tale....................................24.5
Comptons Hawaii/California Golf Guide............................46.95
CorelDraw v2.01.1 Unix Cd.......................................389.95
Destination: Mars!...............................................42.95
Dinosaur Discovery-MPC...........................................29.95
Discoveries of the Deep..........................................36.95
Europe Alive (Win)..37 maps,500 slides,30 movies,500 text pages..42.95
Geekwad Games of the Galaxy......................................33.95
Great Literature Personal Library................................37.95
Heather Hits Her First Home Run..................................24.95
Images w/Impact v2.0-MAC/IBM....................................269.95
Images with Impact for Windows...................................79.95
InfoServer/CD...................................................396.95
It's a Bird's Life...............................................38.95
Language Discovery-MPC...........................................34.95
Laryrinth of Time................................................54.95
Lost Treasures 1.................................................42.95
Lost Treasures 2.................................................32.95
Man Enough.......................................................48.95
Mediasource General II-MPC.......................................34.95
Mediasource General Topics v.1.................................249.95
Mediasource Genaral Topics v.2..................................249.95
Mediasource Historical v.1-MPC..................................249.95
Mediasource Natural Sciences....................................249.95
Moving Gives Me a Stomach Ache...................................24.95
MPC Audio Upgrade Kit-DEC.......................................459.95
Mud Puddle.......................................................24.95
Multimedia Animals Encyclopedia..................................39.95
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Multimedia Music: Mozart.........................................26.95
Multimedia Music: Vivaldi........................................27.95
Multimedia ToolBox v1.5.........................................519.95
Multimedia World Fact Book.......................................26.95
NAS 200V SW V/V CD Rom..........................................225.95
PC Globe Maps 'n' Facts..........................................34.95
Parenting: Prenatal to Pre-School................................52.95
Photo CDRom-Aviation.............................................46.95
Photo CDRom-Arctic...............................................46.95
Photo CDRom-Birds................................................46.95
Photo CDRom-Bridges..............................................46.95
Photo CDRom-Churches.............................................46.95
Photo CDRom-Coasts...............................................46.95
Photo CDRom-Fields...............................................46.95
Photo CDRom-Food.................................................46.95
Photo CDRom-Lakes & Rivers.......................................46.95
Photo CDRom-Mountains of America.................................46.95
Photo CDRom-Patterns.............................................46.95
Photo CDRom-People..............................................46.95
Photo CDRom-Porsche Racing.......................................46.95
Photo CDRom-Sailboats............................................46.95
Photo CDRom-Sampler.............................................359.95
Photo CDRom-Sunsets & Sunrises...................................46.95
Photo CDRom-Trees & Leaves.......................................46.95
Photo CDRom-Under Water Reels....................................46.95
Photo CDRom-Waterfalls...........................................46.95
Photo CDRom-Wild Animals.........................................46.95
Photo CDRom-WWII Aircraft........................................46.95
Pro Football Guide...............................................32.95
ProtoStar War of the Frontier....................................44.95
Putt Putt's Fun Pack.............................................34.95
Putt Putt's Fun Pack MPC.........................................34.95
Putt Putt Goes to the Moon.......................................46.95
Putt Putt Joins the Parade.......................................46.95
Ring World Revenge of Patriach...................................39.95
Rodney...........................................................32.95
Scary Poems for Rotten Kids......................................24.95
Scooter's Magic Castle...........................................46.95
Sleeping Beauty Multimedia Story-MPC.............................42.95
Software Jukebox Arcade..........................................37.95
Strike Commander/Secret Missions.................................59.95
Talking Jungle Safari-MSDos......................................59.95
Terminator 2 Chess...............................................32.95
The GGA Tour:Earth Invitation!...................................64.95
The Last Dinosaur Egg............................................38.95
The Night Before Christmas.......................................24.95
The Paper Bag Princess...........................................24.95
The Selfish Giant................................................38.95
The Tale of Benjamin Bunny.......................................24.95
The Tale of Peter Rabbit.........................................24.95
The Tell-Tale Heart..............................................39.95
The Ugly Duckling................................................46.95
The Virtual Murder Mystery Series................................46.95
Thomas Snowsuit..................................................24.95
Ultrix Ws RISC CD Rom...........................................539.95
Vampire's Coffin.................................................38.95
Video Cube.......................................................46.95
Wacky Funsters...................................................24.95
Wetset CD v2.0..................................................210.95
World Tour (Win)..America/Europe/Asia 3 CD bundle................76.95
World Vista Atlas..Tour 200 countries,music,1M+ pics,MPC.........39.95
0007
Oxford English Dictionary.......................................895.00
0008
Best of Midi Connection (2 cds)..variety of midi files...........call$
Best of Photography (2 cds)...100+ photos,various formats........call$
Dragon's Lair Reelmagic..........................................call$
Gabriel Knight...................................................49.95
Greens Golf......................................................call$
Lawnmower Man....................................................46.95
The 1993 World Almanac & Book of Facts..1 million+ facts,events..call$
Whales & Dolphins................................................call$
0009
Amazing Universe.101 images from NASA space probes,planets,moons.50.95
********* MACintosh ****************** MACintosh ********************
0005
BattleChess MPC...Multimedia animated chess game-audio/music.....29.95
Family Doctor MPC.2000 common questions,data on 1600 drugs,pics..19.95
0006
Color Magic......................................................19.95
Dracula Unleashed................................................56.95
Fatty Bear's Birthday Surprise...................................49.95
Iron Helix.......................................................62.95
It's a Bird's Life...............................................38.95
Jack and the Beanstalk...........................................36.95
Multimedia Music:Vivaldi.........................................26.95
Putt Putt Joins the Parade.......................................46.95
Putt Putt's Fun Pack.............................................36.5
Renaissance Masters I............................................64.95
Renaissance Masters II...........................................64.95
Sherlock Holmes Consulting I.....................................54.95
Sherlock Holmes Consulting II....................................54.95
Sherlock Holmes Consulting III...................................54.95
Twelve Roads to Gettysburg.......................................29.95
The Ugly Ducking.................................................46.95
The White Horse Child............................................38.95
Total Distortion.................................................82.95
Victor, Vector, and Yondo: Vampire's Coffin......................54.95
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 11978
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94 10:51p
Subj: Best New $19 SHAREWARE CD               Refer: NONE
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ÿ@SUBJECT:Best New $19 SHAREWARE CDROM                                N
           That's right a great SHAREWARE ROM
                   for ONLY $19.00

Big Sky Rom's newest release, TopDrawer, is now shipping.
For you who have pre-ordered, your's is on the way. Yeah,
I know.  What kind of ROM could I be getting for 19 bucks?

                       ANSWER

        Possibly the best ROM you have to date!

This ROM is published by SysOps for the SysOp.  Tired f
compiling list and heaven knows what else to get a ROM
on-line?

This is the answer you have been waiting for, affordable
files at this introductory price, to show what TopDrawer
is and can do.

Files.bbs in every DIR, so simple it can be run on a test
drive of QMODEM (tm). Plus SPITFIRE (tm) files SFFILES.BBS.
And you 4DOS (tm) users will find descript.ion files.
If you're a PC-BOARD(tm) SysOp, you'll find a comprehensive
SETMEUP.exe that will install the ROM for you! (...You do
have to have it in the CD-ROM player!) grin........
All archives are compressed using pkzip (PKWARE (tm) 204G
using maximum compression.
All archives and their members have been scanned with the
latest virus scanners.

All files have file_id.diz's in them, GOOD ONE's, at that;
we added over 1,859 full descriptions when none were available
or the author thought that high ASCII looked better.

And on TOP of all that, we have made a great effort to remove
commercial files and other copyright infringements.
Now, what this means is that we set this ROM up for the BBS,
not the end user!!!!

We have, because of current legal cases and judgments within the
publishing community, removed VOC, WAVE, and MIDI sound files. The
real programs are still there; we just deleted the lawyer syndrome.
All of the GIF's are our own, no copyright infringements to worry
about. You are licensed as the ROM owner to distribute them to your
users.  Disnay has started bringing lawsuits against the publisher's
who have any of their pictures on their CDs and many of the latest
have them.  Warner will be bringing lawsuits against the publisher's
that have Startrek sound and picture files and many of the latest
shareware CDs have those.  So, Buyers and Sellers Beware!

There is also a feature authors DIR.  That's the authors we felt
exhibited professional demeanor in program ability and distribution
ease.  Plus, we have the text files that are the latest rage -- that
is, we have STEVE ROBERTS stuff, NOT Megabytes of FAQ's or other
drivel. We have taken great pains to think of the user and the SysOp.
You will find your users cruising through this easy file system and
praising you for the setup (that is, if you have great users like we
do).

Both the SuperMart BBS and PC-MONTANA BBS have handicapped users,
and thought went into the files and their placement to enhance the
interface for these special individuals.

Ok, now to the brass tacks:  Files -- there are 4,174;that's 609 MB +
compressed.  Dirs -- no, not 50 or 60, just 45 ; and this ROM will
interface with our first release, BIG SKY 01, so you don't have to do
a major setup all over again!

You've probably heard other SysOps saying that they're removing such &
such ROM offline because of one problem or another. We listen to these
SysOps; you are our bread and butter (low cost spread in this ROM's price).

Now, where can I get this ROM?  Well, read below and you can order
this baby on-line or by fax (24 hours) or by voice (9-9 EST Mon-Sat).

*** PCJ COMPUTING ***   Data  -  1-615-478-2890   We stock 700+ titles
  All major credit      Fax   -  1-615-479-1047   Lowest prices around
  cards accepted        Voice -  1-615-339-0235   Download BIGSKY2.ZIP
  with no surcharge     Orders-  1-800-547-7817   for the files list.
  (No CODs)           Internet-  Douglas.Carpenter@Junction.Cld9.Com
                      Listserv-  Send request to Listserv@Cld9.Com
                                 Send SUB CDROM-L NAME
                     Compuserve-  71754.3514@Compuserve.Com
                      **  DEALER INQUIRIES WELCOME **

File stats for the BEST NEW SHAREWARE CD-TOP DRAWER for 1990 to 1994:
    File   %    Apx  'K'   %            File   %    Apx 'K'    %
    ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== =====
90     0  0.0%         0  0.0%    91       1  0.0%       100  0.0%
92     6  0.1%     2,380  0.4%    93   3,968 95.1%   558,536 91.6%
94   144  4.8%    48,607  8.0%          ==== =====  ======== =====
----  Total Files:  4,174   Total Approx 'K' Bytes:  609,523  ----
Duplicate Files Comparison - Top Drawer versus other popular CDs:

Big Sky 1 - 0%                  So Much Shareware # 3 - 2.4%
Cream of the Crop # 2 - 11.7%   Software Vault Gold (# 3) - 10.3%
Nightowl 10 - 12.4%             Call PCJ at 615-339-0235 if you
Nightowl 11 - 6.4%              need a file comparison with any
Pier 3 - 15.3%                  of the other popular CDROMs.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 11979
  To: DAVID SHORT                              Date: 02/14/94  5:40a
Subj: your kidding right?                     Refer: NONE
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-> DC> $700 was a good price for the 600A.  $500 is a good price for a
-> used DC> one.
->    Yeh, right.  When did you buy it, I can get them new for $550
-> simply by
-> looking at the phone much less what I could get if I scrooged my
-> distributor down a little.

Yes, Mr. Expert.
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From: RICHARD KELLER                         Number: 11980
  To: HOWARD RICE                              Date: 02/14/94 11:53a
Subj: 4 CD's $39                              Refer: NONE
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HR>Software    all are original disks and manuals require + shipping.

HR>C D - R O M S   .
  >Bundle MPC pack: World Atlas, Us Atlas, Mavis Typing, Chess Master 3000
  >                                                            $39

Hello there.....  You can buy this brand NEW for under $30.  Should be
more like $19 used.   If you don't believe me call Bob's CD rom mania
(real store) at 617-246-6767. You can even go there and walk in if you
live in MA.


                                   Richard Keller

 * QMPro 1.51 * As I said before, I never repeat myself.
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From: ROBERT KUMMER                          Number: 11981
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94 11:54p
Subj: CD's For Trade or Sale                  Refer: NONE
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      Hello Everyone, I have several CD's I would like to trade for
     other CD's or maybe sell. I'd be interested in Adult, Games,
     Shareware CD's or whatever. I have the following CD's.

    Games: Stellar 7.... Kings Quest 6....Carmen Sandiego Deluxe

         Adult: Seedy Rom #6.....Amateur Models

                     Shareware Title's

     America's Premier                   Phoenix 3
     Shareware Games 92                  SDN 1 plus
     CIA World Fact Book                 Mega Demo 1
     Shareware Tiger Ver 92A             Black Box 4

                           Other's

                 MPC Wizard 2.0
                 Sing-Along Classic's Vol.1102
                 MacroMedia Action! & ClipMedia
                 WinCD - Audio CD player & Database
                 Microsoft Multimedia Pak For Windows
                 CD-ROM Premiere - Interactive Sampler
                 Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia Ver 1


     Please reply here with offers. Leave # and I'll call if interested,
     or I can reply here. Thanks.

     Robert.

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From: ROBERT KUMMER                          Number: 11982
  To: RICHARD ROSENFELD                        Date: 02/14/94 11:54p
Subj: Iron Helix                              Refer: NONE
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  RR>Anyone want to trade for Iron Helix including all documentaion.
     Make me an offer.


     Hello Richard, I have several CD's listed in a message posted
    to ALL in this conference. Please take a look and let me know
    if we can do a trade. Thanks.

                              Robert.

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From: ROBERT KUMMER                          Number: 11983
  To: MICHAEL BLITCH                           Date: 02/14/94 11:54p
Subj: Used & NEW CDs                          Refer: NONE
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MB>I am looking for used(maybe new) adult CD-Roms. They must have XXX
MB>format(meaning I don't want any full of R's). I have any of the items
MB>below for trade or sale. All items have origional docs, disks, & boxes.
MB>I will consider any trade and will accept 2 for 1 trades(two of my stuff
MB>for your one). I am getting rid of these because of already solving them
MB>all. I am especially interested in getting any of these : storm series,
MB>Fao series, Flame, Forbidden Subjects, or T&A to the Maxx.

MB>CD-Roms...

MB>Star Wars Chess (for Windows)
MB>Day of the Tentacle (Enhanced)
MB>Mad Dog McCree
MB>Star Trek: 25th Anniversary (Enhanced)
MB>Rebel Assault (NEW! Package still shrink-wrapped!!!)


     Hello Michael, I have Seedy-Rom #6 I will trade you for
    Rebel Assault & Day of the Tentacle. I also have several
    CD's listed in a message posted to ALL in this conference.
    Please take a look and see if we can do some trades for the
    other 3 titles above. Let me know. Thanks.

                                            Robert.

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From: ROBERT KUMMER                          Number: 11984
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 02/14/94 11:54p
Subj: CD's For Trade or Sale                  Refer: NONE
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MB>Hi Robert,
MB>I would be interested in MEGA DEMO if you still have it! How much, and
MB>where do I send the check to. NETMAIL me if possible!

    Hello Matt, I still have this CD. You sell CD's right? I have a
   couple idea's for a trade if your interested. How about a trade
   for an older CD like Software Vault I or a lesser expencive newer
   title like Simtel20 or something along that line. I could also
   use some jewel cases. Let me know what other CD's you might want
   to trade. Call me at 631-5105 Mornings or Evenings and we can talk
   about it. Thanks.

                Robert.

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From: JIM BORTH                              Number: 11985
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 02/13/94  8:20p
Subj: Misc CD-Rom Titles                      Refer: NONE
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*** Quoting Jim Lambert to All dated 02-11-94 ***
>                         Computer Works CD-Rom Sales 
>        Sale!               Miscellaneous Titles                 Sale! 
>                             Limited Quantities 
>  
> The Animals - MPC           $20    King's Quest VI              $45 
> Battle Chess Enhanced       $30    Mantis Experimental Fighter  $20 
> ChessMaster 3000 - MPC      $22    Precision Mapping            $69 
> Desktop Publisher's Dream   $32    Sherlock Holmes Cons Det I   $20 
> Electronic Home Library     $28    Space Shuttle                $20 
> Fantazia Fonts & Sounds     $24    Star Wars Chess - New!       $22 
> Great Poetry Classics       $40    U.S. & World Atlas Pack      $20 
> Grolier MPC Encyclopedia 1  $40 
>  
> Computer Works         (205) 793-4481 Voice           Online Orders 
>  CD-Rom Sales           (205) 671-0092 BBS           Visa & Mastercard 
> *!* FreeMail 1.09
>  * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, Alabama * (205)677-0078 * (1:18/10)
is that all that you have, or is this a small list, because i know someone who
might want to buy a few cd-rom games.

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From: CHARLES BEYER                          Number: 11986
  To: MICHAEL BLITCH                           Date: 02/14/94  9:53p
Subj: Used & NEW CDs                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Michael,

MB> Rebel Assault (NEW! Package still shrink-wrapped!!!)
MB>  Software
MB> Mortal Kombat
MB> Strike Commander
MB> Lotus 1-2-3 for Windows (entire package unopened)
MB> Ami Pro for Windows (entire package unopened)

I am interested in the above mentioned titles.  How much do you want for them?

Or Here's some program's I'll trade you for them.

CD's (Comes with the CD and the books)
------------------------
PC Globe Pak
Mantis Experimental Fighter/Civilization CD

Disks(All come with books disks and boxes)(3 1/2" & some are 3 1/2"&5 1/4")
-------------------------------------
Castles II
Overlord
Tetris Classic (256 color, SB support by Spectrum Holobyte)
Covert Action
Chessmaster 3000

thanks

l8r

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 11987
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94 10:36p
Subj: TurboPascal Shareware CDROM             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the 8th edition of
its TurboPascal CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a
dump of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The February 1994 CD-ROM has
799 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 145,000 record PC products database. Voice:+1(301)924-3594,
Fax:+1(301)963-2708.
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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 11988
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94  9:03a
Subj: Games for trade...                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi!
 I have the following games I would like to trade for some CD games:

1. Leisure Suit Larry - Looking for Love in Several Wrong Places
  CGA,EGA,VGA & MCGA.Sound card supp. 3.5" & 5.25" disks

2. Castles
  CGA,EGA & 256-color MCGA/VGA.Sound card supp. 3.5" disks

3. Crime Wave
  EGA & 256-color MCGA/VGA.Real Sound. 5.25" disks

4. Space Quest 1
  VGA.Sound card supp. 3.5" disks(H.D.)

If interested in trading let me know,

                                   Diana


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From: CEE CEE                                Number: 11989
  To: MALIBU                                   Date: 02/14/94  9:10p
Subj: New User Message                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi..this is Cee Cee. I just found the number to this board on another
board....and i noticed that you have OOII. I enjoy playing that game, so I
just thought I would drop in for a visit. :)

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From: JASON CHANCELLOR                       Number: 11990
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94  7:17p
Subj: CD-ROM Recording                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                     ---------- CD Technology -----------
                        Professional Recording Services

       CD-Rom Creation Prices                 Bulk CD-Rom Production
      ------------------------               -------------------------
       0   - 100 megs   :  $99               10 CD's / 650 Megs :  $99
       100 - 300 megs   : $145               11 and Up          : CALL
       300 - 650 megs   : $199

                           ** Sysop's SPECIAL **
                         -------------------------
                            0 - 650 megs : $125
                      Please Include Board and Number

               Data accepted in QIC-40 and QIC-80 tape formats.
            We also accept floppies but please call before sending.

   *  2 Day Shipping included with all orders - call for priority service *
      *  Our Professional staff has a 2 day turnaround on most CD orders *

 Why have a custom CD-Rom created for yourself?
     * Unprecedented error correction which makes CDs practically
          indestructible.
     * One CD will hold over 450  1.44k floppies and over 1800
          360k disks.
     * Easily transportable from one system to another.

  Please send Check or Money order payable to CD Technology to :

                              PO BOX #835034
                              Richardson, TX
                              75083-5034

  If you have any questions please call CD Technology at :
       (214) 578 - 6390   (Call 24 Hours a day)
                          (Buisness Hours 8 am - 8 pm)

  For Order form   FREQ : CD   from 1:124/8005

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From: JOHN MARSH IV                          Number: 11991
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94 11:18p
Subj: Shareware                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What is the best shareware CD that anyone here knows of?  I am trying to get
one for my BBS, are the accusations about the Night Owl disks true?

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 11992
  To: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                        Date: 02/14/94 12:36a
Subj: adult cd's trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FCJ>If you have anything else to trade, please let me know. I have about 25 Adu
FCJ>cd's and seems like everyone is trading the same material.

Well,  I DO have Best of Vivid, which is an AWESOME CD, but I am
reluctant to trade this one.  I may however trade it for two CD's.?.
                        Let me Know...     Shane
 þ SLMR 2.1a þ 

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From: BOB HEFLEY                             Number: 11993
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94  9:28p
Subj: Cd-rom for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                      That's right a great ShareWare ROM
                              for $19.00



      Big Sky Rom's newest release, TopDrawer, is now shipping;
      for you who have pre ordered, it's on its way.
      Yeah, I know.  What kind of ROM am I getting for 19
      bucks?

                         ANSWER

             Possibly the best ROM you have to date!

      This ROM is published by SysOps for the SysOp.  Tired of
      compiling list and heaven knows what else to get a ROM
      online?

      This is the answer you have been waiting for, affordable
      files at this introductory price, to show what TopDrawer
      is and can do.

      Files.bbs in every DIR, so simple it can be run on a test
      drive of QMODEM (tm). Plus SPITFIRE (tm) files SFFILES.BBS.
      And you 4DOS (tm) users will find descript.ion files.
      If you're a PC-BOARD(tm) SysOp, you'll find a comprehensive
      SETMEUP.exe that will install the ROM for you! (...You do
      have to have it in the CD-ROM player!) grin........
      All archives are compressed using pkzip (PKWARE (tm) 204G
      using maximum compression.
      All archives and their members have been scanned with the
      latest virus scanners.

      All files have file_id.diz's in them, GOOD ONE's, at that;
      we added over 1,859 full descriptions when none were available
      or the author thought that high ASCII looked better.

      And on TOP of all that, we have made a great effort to remove
      commercial files and other copyright infringements.
      Now, what this means is that we set this ROM up for the BBS,
      not the end user!!!!

      We have, because of current legal cases and judgments within the
      publishing community, removed VOC, WAVE, and MIDI sound files. The
      real programs are still there; we just deleted the lawyer syndrome
      All of the GIF's are our own, no copyright infringements to worry
      about. You are licensed as the ROM owner to distribute them to you
      users.

      There is also a feature authors DIR.  That's the authors we felt
      exhibited professional demeanor in program ability and distributio
      ease.  Plus, we have the text files that are the latest rage -- th
      is, we have STEVE ROBERTS stuff, NOT Megabytes of FAQ's or other
      drivel.  We have taken great pains to think of the user and the Sy
      You will find your users cruising through this easy file system an
      praising you for the setup (that is, if you have great users like
      do).

      Both the SuperMart BBS and PC-MONTANA BBS have handicapped users,
      thought went into the files and their placement to enhance the int
      for these special individuals.
      Ok, now to the brass tacks:  Files -- there are 4,174;that's 624 M
      uncompressed.  Dirs -- no, not 50 or 60, just 45 ; and this ROM wi
      interface with our first release, BIG SKY 01, so you don't have to
      a major setup all over again!

      You've probably heard other SysOps saying that they're removing su
      such ROM offline because of one problem or another.  We listen to
      SysOps; you are our bread and butter (low cost spread in this ROM'

      Now, where can I get this ROM?  Well, read the list and you can or
      baby online or by voice.

      COMM STAR BBS       Data  1-405-222-2219 Running 28.8 Hayes Vfc
                                               For Faster Access
                          Voice 1-405-222-0095



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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 11994
  To: BILL WOOD                                Date: 02/14/94  3:30p
Subj: Cd's for TRADE OR SELL                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BW>Rebel Assualt          $45.00 shipped
BW>Will trade one of the ones with the * beside them for either a good
BW>adult cd or nightowl 11, only if I don't get a offer for a Cd-rom

I have the newly released Bodacious Beauties (Feb 94) to trade for Rebel
Assult (not the OEM version). Need the manual and reg card.  Let me
know.

Thanks
Randy


 * QMPro 1.51 * >ov++h+n AC*hanks for hanging up, dear.


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From: STEVEN MUNAFO                          Number: 11995
  To: ARNOLD SMITH                             Date: 02/14/94  4:52p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    The virus's you speak of were on the NNightowl # 10 release.
Carrs , released the 10.1 version soon after the virus's were found..
                Good Luck.
                     Steven munafo

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From: TOM GOEBEL                             Number: 11996
  To: PAUL STACK                               Date: 02/13/94  3:46a
Subj: Street atlas cd wanted sa               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PS>Looking For Someone Wanting To Sell/Trade.
PS>Looking For The Street Atlas CD-ROM
PS>I Think Its by Delorme and its version 2.0, howeverI think
PS>there are two others I would be interested in.
PS>These are the street level Cd's that show city streets

   Paul....I have Street Atlas Version 1.0(I think). I don't know
           what you mean by street level, but when I got it I lived in a
           small town in Kansas (no stoplight!) and I found my
           town/street. $50 if interested.
               Tom......602-838-3389 anytime.
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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 11997
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94  8:48p
Subj: Adult CD-ROMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   Digital Broadcast Video
*                   3318 South 7th Street
*                  Abilene, TX 79605
* 
*    VOICE: (915)673-1911 BBS: (915)673-8173 14.4 BBS: (915)673-8181
* 
*   ****************** Adult CD-ROM Titles ****************************
* 
*Hot Pics 5.................................................... $ 22.50
*Amateur Models................................................   22.50
*A.P.L. Volume 1...............................................   22.50
**NEW* Interactive Adult Movie Almanac.........................   56.95
**NEW* Interactive Playboy Electronic Datebook.................   38.25
*Island Girls..................................................   16.95
*Island Girls Volume 2.........................................   16.95
*Hawaiian Classic..............................................   19.95
*Kama Sutra....................................................   38.95
*King Dong.....................................................   44.50
**NEW* Pinch of Pepper.........................................   44.50
**NEW* Hot Pics!...............................................   38.95
*Penthouse Interactive.........................................   81.00
*Secrets *New Machine Publishing*..............................   22.50
*House of Dreams *New Machine Publishing*......................   22.50
*New Wave Hookers *New Machine Publishing*.....................   22.50
* 
*Many other titles available, call for pricing...  We also sell many
*non-adult CD-ROM titles.
*   
*You must be 18 years of age or older to order any of the above titles.
*Terms are as follows, we accept VISA, Mastercard, Money Order, and COD.
*add additional $5.00 for COD Charges.
* 
*Phone Lines Open 7-days a week 9am - 9pm CST.   If residing in Texas be
*sure to include 8.25% sales tax.   Make all checks and money orders
*payable to Digital Broadcast Video.
* 
*P.S. We will also give you a trade in discount on used Adult CD-ROMS, or
*     we will purchase your used Adult CD-ROMS.
* 

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From: ED STILSON                             Number: 11998
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 02/14/94 10:33p
Subj: Star Wars Chess                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have that CD..... $29.00   (Infotech Computer Services 614-385-8829).
Ed


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From: ED STILSON                             Number: 11999
  To: JASON CROPPER                            Date: 02/15/94 11:15a
Subj: X-RATED? WHAT'S BEST?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

well... to get ya started... there is a little sampler disk.... it is called
adult sampler... Call InfoTech Computer Services (614) 385-8829....
The price on the adult sampler $10.00


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From: ED STILSON                             Number: 12000
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/15/94 11:19a
Subj: Double Speed drive wanted               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Double Spin drive $239.00 plus shipping... that's the best I can do.
InfoTech (614) 385-8829.


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From: CARL STONE                             Number: 12001
  To: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN                        Date: 02/15/94 12:34p
Subj: Genealogy CD's Wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Good morning Chris, many thanks for your response....if you are just
gettng started I suggest you look around your area for a BBS which
carries the WGA.....World Genealogy Network.....should be lots of
helpful people there who will steer you in the best directions....It's a
big favorite on my board......Good luck....
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From: JIGER DESAI                            Number: 12002
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94 11:10p
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  I still have the following CD's for sale, not trade; my CD-ROM is temporally
dead, but make me an offer I might trade for something good


------------- - - - - - - - -   ---   ---   ---    -----     -----
Southern Beauties - $31
 
The Software Toolworks TSW MPC encyclopedia v 1.5 - $55
 
Rebel Assult - $38
 
Iron Helix - $46
 
Streets Atlas USA - $66   (I payed $130 at SAM'S)
 
Kings Quest 6, MPC - $18
 
Kama Sutra - $30
 
----------------- - - - - - - - - --   -   --   --   ---  ----    - ----
 
My phone # is 205-298-6585 But you probally woun't find me there. Just reply. 
And call if you don't have time, I'll be here on weekens, and weekdays 5p-1a If
you need information about any product let me know!About anything. I incl a lst
of al mk2 m/f/b /w a pur.if interested
 
                                                        ..jig...
^C

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From: CHRIS JOHNSON                          Number: 12003
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/14/94  7:03p
Subj: MPC2 What is it                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RN> What does MPC2 level mean.  I know what MPC1 is.  Is a double speed cd
 RN> player required to meet this specification?

        Ya.. and a dx50 I think with SVGA grfx with 2 megs ram on the card,
        and about 8 megs + ram on the system.


                        Chris


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From: ROSE CITY                              Number: 12004
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94  2:10p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
   ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
  Visa, Mastercard Accepted!

  Pacific Data Graphics Inc.

 *    W O R L D      W I D E      S H I P P I N G    *

     Adult Titles (Must state age 18+)
     ---------------------------------
 Adult Reference Library ......31.00    Moving Fantasies..............39
 After Dark Trilogy (Movie)....45.00    Mystique of the Orient (Mov)..46
 All Beauties (New!)...........39.00    Nightwatch Interactive (Mov)..48
 Amateur Models (New!).........39.00    PC-PIX 1......................39
 Animation Fantasies 1.........39.00    PC-PIX 2......................39
 Animation Fantasies 2.........39.00    Phone Sex (WAV recordings)....29
 Asian Ladies..................39.00    Adult Sampler.................19
 Betrayal (Movie)..............55.00    Physical Therapy..............29
 Busty Babes vol 1 rel 3.......44.00    Porkware 1....................39
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......39.00    Porkware 2....................39
 Debbie Does Dallas (Movie)....49.00    Private Collection 1..........39
 Deep Throat (Movie)...........49.00    Private Collection 2..........39
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......51.00    Private Pictures..............39
 Digital Dreams................39.00
 Dirty Talk (Movie)............45.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........39
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............39.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc..........49
 Erotic Encounters 1...........39.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........59
 Erotic Encounters 2 (New!)....39.00    Seymore Butts Interactive (M).59
 Extreme Delights (New!).......39.00    Smutware......................39
 Giffy Gold....................39.00    So Much Stareware.............39
 Girls of Vivid 1 (New!).......49.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......39
 Girls of Vivid 2 (New!).......49.00    Storm 1.......................39
 Hidden Obsessions (Movie).....52.00    Storm 3.......................39
 High Volume Nudes (New!)......39.00    Super Smutware (New!).........39
 Hot Pix 2.....................39.00    Storm 2.......................39
 Hot Pix 3.....................39.00    T&A 2 the Maxx................39
 Hot Pix 4.....................39.00    Total Fantasy (New!)..........39
 Hot Pix 5.....................39.00    Visual Fantasies..............39
 Kama Sutra (Movie)............49.00    Volcano.......................39
 Lovely Ladies II..............39.00    Wild Women (New!).............39
 Luscious Ladies (New!)........39.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29

 101 Sex Positions 1...........45.00    Best of Vivid (Movie).........49
 101 Sex Positions 2...........45.00    Bustin Out! (Movie)...........49
 Cat & Mouse (Movie)...........55.00    FAO 3 Disk Set................69
 Foxes.........................39.00    Gay World 1..(Gay)............49
 Gay World 2......(Gay)........49.00    GBL (Gay,Bi,Lesbian)..........39
 Girls of J. Stephen Hicks.....40.00    Girls of Vivid 2..............49
 Glamour Girls 1943............59.00    Hot Hunks......(Gay)..........49
 House of Dreams (Movie).......52.00    House of Sleeping Beauties....49
 King Dong (Movie).............52.00    L.A. Strippers (Movie)........49
 Legends of Porn (Movie).......49.00    Lovely Ladies 2...............41
 Manpower....(Gay).............49.00    My First Time (Movie).........48
 NixPix Hot Pix 1..............OUT!!    Paradise Club (Movie).........56
 Pixure Rom 1..................39.00    Pixure Rom 2..................39
 Pixure Rom 3..................39.00    Pixure Rom Triple Exposure...102
 Q69...........................36.00    Secrets (Movie)...............44
Tranz...(Chicks with Dicks)...39.00
 Wicked (Kodak Photo CD).......53.00    Wicked (Movie)................55

  Many New Adult titles Not listed, Call Our '24'Hr. BBS for the Latest
  Catalog: Or call 1-503-257-7255  for Help, Questions:

------------------------------------------------------------------------
 INFO/ORDERS..........503-257-7255..24hrs   World Wide Shipping Via
 BBS (Line 1) ........503-257-7264..24hrs   Federal Express: Call Our BB
 BBS (Line 2).........503-257-7341..24hrs   For our Huge Catalog of Over
 ORDERS ONLY!       1-800-400-7255..24hrs   * 1100 * Titles,and Descript
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Visa, Mastercard, Check, Money Orders Accepted:
Shipping is: $6.00 for up to '5' Cd's (2lbs).  (U.S.A. Only)
International Orders Please Include $12.00 for up to '5' Cd's
for Shipping:

     *************  Call 1-800-400-7255 *************
For your ORDER Today:

**********************************************************
P.S. Look for Our New ADULT CD-Rom Disk to be Out Soon:
Over '3000' Original Gif's, NEVER Seen Anywhere Before:
File.BBS Descriptions, NO BBS Adds! All Orginal From 640x480 to 1024x768
All European Women:     (At a Dealer Near You)
***********************************************************

       (c) 1994  Pacific Data Graphics Inc.
       We are not Affiliated with any other Cd-Rom Company




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From: JASON PAUL                             Number: 12005
  To: SCOTT CARTIER                            Date: 02/14/94  9:41p
Subj: Re: CD MUSIC FILES (.MOD)               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message dated 08 Feb 94  08:22:11, Scott Cartier wrote:

 SC>         I found one dealer in the back of the Computer Shopper that
 SC> advertised the Ultimate Mod Collection in its ad, but when I called
 SC> they
 SC> said they were sold out and were not sure if they would reorder.

 SC> They are instead gonna stock a new title called Mod Blaster. A
 SC> description has not been given yet as it just came out.

 SC> Do you or anyone out there know where I could possibly order The
 SC> ultimate mod collection?

The Ultimate Mod Collection can be ordered from Safe Harbor at 1800-544-6599
for $22.99 plus shipping.

I bought this and love it!

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From: JASON PAUL                             Number: 12006
  To: JEREMY MCDONALD                          Date: 02/15/94 12:00a
Subj: Re: Apple 150 wanted                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message dated Sun 13 Feb 94 21:40, Jeremy Mcdonald wrote:

 JM> On Thu 10 Feb 94  1:49, Jason Paul had this to say about Apple 150
 JM> wanted:

 JP> I would like to buy an Apple 150 external CD-ROM drive and scsi
terminator.
 JP>  Please let me know if you have one for sale.  Thanks!

 JM> You can get one from Mac Warehouse 1-800-255-6227.

They are all sold out and won't be getting any more in.  That is why I posted
this.

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From: JASON KIMENKER                         Number: 12007
  To: BRIAN DHATT                              Date: 02/15/94  8:56a
Subj: CD-ROM Drives CHEAP!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Quoting Brian Dhatt to Jason Kimenker dated 02-11-94 ***
>  JK> Mitsumi   001D   300k/sec 250ms   Includes interface   ** $235 **
>  JK> Panasonic  CR562 300k/sec  250ms   Includes interface   ** $229 **
> 
> How much to get these in external casing?
 
We only sell the internal version, however an external case with power supply
and extended ribbon cable for the interface card can be provided for around
$50 or so. If you're interested, please contact me.
--
Name     : Jason Kimenker               Brainchild Computer Distributions
Phone    : (800) 972-9263  9am to 9pm   14550 Bruce B. Downs Bld. 9 Suite 214
Fax      : (813) 978-8937  7 days/wk.   Tampa, Florida 33613   (813) 972-9263
Internet : kimenker@suntan.eng.usf.edu  *> Please ask for me when calling! <*

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From: ARI SHRAGE                             Number: 12008
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94  3:16p
Subj: cd rom for me                           Refer: NONE
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I need a cheap cd rom...internal or external.


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From:                                        Number: 12009
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 02/10/94 12:54p
Subj: Re: Wanted: Cd Rom Player               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi, My name is Adam and I like the sound of that player sold it 
yet???? Whats it come with.
Will Pay cash!!!!!
Email Adam Godfrey
Thanks,
Adam Godfrey





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From: SAM BECKWITH                           Number: 12010
  To: SID SANDIFER                             Date: 02/15/94  5:08p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Sid,

The Holy Bible is for DOS and the King James Bible is for DOS or Windows.
I don't think either are ASCII files.  Let me know if you have anymore
questions.

Thanks,
Sam


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From: SAM BECKWITH                           Number: 12011
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94  4:54p
Subj: Cds For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DFW Discount Electronics    CD-ROM Price List  Orders: 800-829-0331
 Ship to USA ONLY.02/15/94  BBS: 214-259-4188  Local : 214-254-0331
     Mastercard, Visa, COD, and Prepay welcome.

*BBS Ready*           
9000 Sounds 9/93...........................................  $21.95
CD PowerBox v2.0 11/93.....................................  $19.95
CD WinBox 9/93.............................................  $19.95
Cream of the Crop II 10/93.................................  $20.95
GIF Galaxy #1 1/94.........................................  $26.95
Ham Radio & Scanner Companion 11/93........................  $17.95
Hobbes OS/2 Archives 10/93.................................  $14.95
Monster Media 93 Volume #2 9/93............................  $23.95
Monster Media 93 Volume #3 1/94............................  $25.95
Night Owl 10.1.............................................  $28.95
Night Owl 11 1/94..........................................  $29.95
Night Owl Games 10/93......................................  $17.95
Night Owl Graghics 8/93....................................  $23.95
Night Owl Windows..........................................  $26.95
OS/2 Box 10/93.............................................  $19.95
OS/2 Companion 11/93.......................................  $17.95
Pier 3 Shareware 9/93......................................  $24.95
Pier 4 Shareware 2/94 (pre-release orders).................  $24.95
Sci-Fi Fantasy 4/93........................................  $23.95
Shareware Explorer 4 CD Combo 8/93.........................  $34.95
Shareware GamePak for DOS 11/93............................  $17.95
Shareware Studio III 9/93..................................  $17.95
Simtel 10/93...............................................  $14.95
So Much Modem Madness 11/93................................  $21.95
Software Vault Gold 9/93...................................  $19.95
Software Vault Platinum Collection 1/94....................  $22.95
Sysop's Companion 11/93....................................  $17.95

*BBS Software*        
Wildcat! v3.9s BBS.........................................  $89.95

*Business*            
Britannica Select Software.................................  $19.95
Business Assistant.........................................  $13.95
Business Master 3rd Edition 10/93..........................  $18.95
Complete Home and Office Legal Guide.......................  $13.95
Marketing Master (DOS-OEM).................................  $15.95

*Children*            
Aesop's Fables (Win-Boxed).................................  $23.95
Aladdin and his Wonderful Lamp.............................  $34.95
Arthur's Teacher Trouble (Win-OEM).........................  $24.95
Barney Bear Goes to School.................................  $13.95
Barney Bear Goes to Space..................................  $13.95
Beauty & the Beast.........................................  $21.95
Interactive Storytime Volume 1.............................  $18.95
Interactive Storytime Volume 2.............................  $18.95
Interactive Storytime Volume 3.............................  $18.95
Just Grandma and Me (Win-OEM)..............................  $27.95
McMillan Dictionary for Children (OEM).....................  $22.95
Mixed Up Mother Goose......................................  $16.95
Peter and the Wolf (OEM)...................................  $18.95
Putt Putt Fun Pack (OEM)...................................  $23.95
Putt Putt Goes to the Moon (OEM)...........................  $23.95
Putt Putt Joins the Parade (OEM)...........................  $23.95
Sleeping Beauty............................................  $18.95
White Horse Child (OEM)....................................  $18.95

*Cooking*             
Colossal Cookbook..........................................  $13.95
Cookbook Heaven............................................  $14.95
Healing Foods Cookbook.....................................  $31.95
John Schumacher's New Prague Cookbook......................  $24.95
New Basics Electronic Cookbook.............................  $23.95

*Education*           
Education Master 2nd Edition...............................  $18.95
PC-SIG World of Education 12/93............................  $18.95

*Games*               
Adventures of Willy Beamish................................  $16.95
B-17 Flying Fortress & Silent Service (OEM)................  $28.95
CD Game Pack II............................................  $19.95
CD-ROM Challenge Pack......................................  $19.95
Chessmaster 4000 (OEM).....................................  $21.95
Conan the Cimmerian (OEM)..................................  $23.95
Cybergenic Ranger - Secret of the Seventh Planet...........  $14.95
Dagger of Amon Ra - Laura Bow 2 (Win-OEM)..................  $24.95
Deathstar Arcade Battles...................................  $13.95
Dracula Unleashed (Boxed)..................................  $53.95
Dracula Unleashed (OEM)....................................  $34.95
Dune (OEM).................................................  $33.95
Ecoquest: The Search for Cetus (Win).......................  $24.95
European Racers (Boxed)....................................  $30.95
F-15 Strike Eagle III (OEM)................................  $27.95
Gunship 2000 (OEM).........................................  $27.95
Guy Spy and the Crystals of Armageddon (OEM)...............  $21.95
Hugo's House of Horrors....................................  $13.95
Iron Helix (Win-Boxed).....................................  $61.95
Iron Helix (Win-OEM).......................................  $35.95
Jutland (Boxed)............................................  $44.95
King's Quest VI (OEM)......................................  $25.95
Labyrinth of Time..........................................  $53.95
Legend of Kyrandia (OEM)...................................  $22.95
Loom.......................................................  $17.95
Lost in Time...............................................  $24.95
Mad Dog Mcree (Boxed)......................................  $35.95
Mad Dog Mcree (OEM)........................................  $30.95
Maniac Mansion - Day of the Tentacle (Boxed)...............  $43.95
Mantis (OEM)...............................................  $19.95
Murder Makes Strange Deadfellows (OEM).....................  $23.95
MVP Software's Game Jamboree...............................  $13.95
Rebel Assault (OEM)........................................  $34.95
Return to Zork (OEM).......................................  $26.95
Secret of Monkey Island....................................  $19.95
Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe............................  $19.95
Seventh Guest (2 disc set - OEM)...........................  $35.95
Shareware GamePak for Windows 11/93........................  $17.95
Space Quest IV - Roger Wilco and the Time Rippers (OEM)....  $16.95
Star Trek 25th Anniversary  Enhanced (Boxed)...............  $59.95
Star Wars Chess (OEM)......................................  $20.95
Stellar 7..................................................  $17.95
Tornado (OEM)..............................................  $27.95
Who Killed Sam Rupert? (Win)...............................  $18.95
Wing Commander Special Edition & Ultima VI (OEM)...........  $26.95
World of Xeen (2 disc set - Boxed).........................  $44.95
Wrath of the Demon (OEM)...................................  $16.95

*Gardening*           
Gardening..................................................  $13.95
Pixel Garden...............................................  $25.95
Plant Doctor...............................................  $25.95

*General*             
CD Deluxe Pack #1..........................................  $24.95
Kaleidosconics.............................................  $22.95
MS Works (Win-OEM).........................................  $32.95
World of Mac Software......................................  $21.95

*Graphic/Clipart*     
Clipart Heaven.............................................  $15.95
Clipart Warehouse 10/93....................................  $13.95
Color Magic Clipart........................................  $19.95
Corel Draw 3.0 (OEM).......................................  $49.95
Desktop Publishers Dream Disk..............................  $26.95
Font Funhouse (OEM)........................................  $18.95
Fontmaster II..............................................  $17.95
GIFs Galore 9/93...........................................  $19.95
Icons, Wallpaper and More for Windows......................  $26.95
Jets and Props (OEM).......................................  $19.95


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From: SAM BECKWITH                           Number: 12012
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94  4:54p
Subj: Cds For Sale                            Refer: NONE
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Kodak Photo CD Access Software (Win).......................  $14.95
LaserSoft Banners (Win-Boxed)..............................  $24.95
Money, Money, Money!.......................................  $18.95
Mother of All Clipart......................................  $15.95
Presentation Magic (Windows)...............................  $29.95
Publisher's Paradise.......................................  $21.95
Publisher's Powerhouse 9/93................................  $16.95
Too Many Typefonts.........................................  $13.95
WorldView..................................................  $14.95

*Ham Radio*           
Ham Radio v3.2.............................................  $13.95
QRZ Ham Radio..............................................  $14.95

*Health*              
Family Doctor..............................................  $21.95
Home Remedies (OEM)........................................  $19.95
Mayo Clinic Family Health (Win-OEM)........................  $20.95
Prescription Drugs.........................................  $25.95

*Literature*          
Electronic Home Library....................................  $24.95
Greatest Books Collection (Boxed)..........................  $26.95

*Programming*         
Programmer's Disk..........................................  $24.95
Source CD-ROM..............................................  $17.95
Technotools................................................  $13.95

*Reference*           
Aircraft Encyclopedia......................................  $27.95
American Heritage Illustrated Encyclopedic Dictionary (Box)  $32.95
Complete Bookshop..........................................  $13.95
Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia 1994 (Win-OEM)..........  $67.95
Dictionaries and Languages.................................  $13.95
Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia 6.0  1994 (Windows)........  $39.95
Languages of the World.....................................  $22.95
Movie Select (Boxed).......................................  $37.95
MS Bookshelf 93 for Windows (OEM)..........................  $37.95
North American Indians.....................................  $27.95
ProPhone National Edition 4th Quarter 1993 (7 disc set)....  $69.95
Star Trek Collectibles (Win)...............................  $39.95
USA Wars: Civil War........................................  $25.95
USA Wars: Korea............................................  $25.95
USA Wars: Vietnam..........................................  $25.95
USA Wars: World War II.....................................  $25.95

*Religion*            
Bible Library (OEM)........................................  $24.95
Holy Bible CD-ROM..........................................  $17.95
King James Bible (Boxed)...................................  $22.95
New Family Bible (Boxed)...................................  $38.95

*Science/Nature*      
Beyond the Wall of Stars (Boxed)...........................  $21.95
Dictionary of the Living World (OEM).......................  $22.95
Dinosaur Adventure & Space Adventure Combo (OEM)...........  $29.95
Dinosaur Discovery (Win-OEM)...............................  $24.95
Dinosaurs! The Multimedia Encyclopedia (Win)...............  $21.95
Images of NASA Collection..................................  $23.95
Jurassic and Other Dinosaurs...............................  $13.95
MS Multimedia Dinosaurs (Win-Boxed)........................  $49.95
National Geographics Mammals (OEM).........................  $20.95
New View of Space (Win)....................................  $24.95
Our Solar System...........................................  $13.95
San Diego Zoo Presents...The Animals (DOS).................  $19.95
San Diego Zoo Presents...The Animals (Mac).................  $19.95
San Diego Zoo Presents...The Animals (Win).................  $19.95
Small Blue Planet (Win)....................................  $44.95
Space Adventure (OEM)......................................  $24.95
UFO........................................................  $38.95

*Shareware*           
Aminet Amiga...............................................  $16.95
Computer Reference Library.................................  $13.95
Multimedia Mania...........................................  $13.95
PC-SIG #13 1/94............................................  $23.95
PC-SIG World of Windows 8/93...............................  $18.95
Shareware Overload Trio (3 CD set).........................  $19.95
Windoware..................................................  $13.95
Windows Master.............................................  $15.95
WinPlatinum................................................  $15.95

*Sound/Music*         
Encyclopedia of Sound #1...................................  $13.95
Encyclopedia of Sound #2...................................  $13.95
MIDI Music Shop for Windows................................  $19.95
Mozart - Multimedia Music Book (Win-OEM)...................  $18.95
Sights & Sounds 2 the Maxx.................................  $21.95
Sound Sensations...........................................  $13.95

*Travel/Maps*         
Adventures (Win-OEM).......................................  $22.95
Oceans Below (Win-OEM).....................................  $20.95
Precision Mapping (Boxed)..................................  $66.95
US Atlas 4.0 (OEM).........................................  $19.95
World Atlas (Win) with Mario is Missing....................  $21.95
World Atlas 4.0 (Win-OEM)..................................  $19.95

*Utility*             
MPC  Wizard................................................  $14.95
 Call me for a complete price list.  Thanks, Sam

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From: EARL TRUSS                             Number: 12013
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 02/15/94  9:31p
Subj: Best Cdrom Prices                       Refer: NONE
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DC>20th Century Video Almanac.......................................28.95

Is this the two or five disk version?

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From: TOM GUELKER                            Number: 12014
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/14/94  6:54p
Subj: Mitsumi double speed                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN>Anyone have one of the new Mitsumi double speed cd drives?  I have two
  >LU005 single speed drives, but considering trading up.


I want your old broken Mitsumi CD readers! Model LU002S or 005S
Prefer non-working since I'm cheap and a little dangerous with a
soldering iron..
Reply with model #, asking price and voice phone number.
Regards,
Tom Guelker

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From: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                      Number: 12015
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94  3:10a
Subj: adult cd's trade\sell                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


Have the following adult cd's to trade for other adult or regular cd's. Each
to pay own postage cost on trades. I will pay postage on cd's sold.

Star Wars Chess.      $27.00

Moving Fantasies.     $34.00

Storm II              $27.00

Visual Fantasies      $27,00

Phical Therapy        $27.00

Visual Fantasies II   $27.00

Our Solar System      $20.00

Cafe (shareware)      $20.00


If interested leave message or call anytime, voice.


                             -=Frank=-

                        302-674-4537   anytime

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 12016
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/15/94  6:03p
Subj: Re: Double Speed drive wanted           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >Looking to purchase an internal Double Speed cd drive for around $200 or
 >so.  Any such thing?  Anyone tried the new Mitsumi new double speed
 >drives?
 >
 >Thanks
 >Randy

Randy,
I have the Mitsumi Double Speed and I am very pleased with it, viewing gifs
I'd swear the cd is faster then the harddrive. The motorized door in nice
also.

I got mine at a local show for only $180.00, this included all the cables,
cards, manuals and software to run it. This is what I call the true double
speed meaning some Sony drives are 320 ms while mine is 250 ms, the Sony
double speed $169.00 wasn't worth the slower 70 ms speed difference.

                               Mike Harris

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 12017
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/15/94  6:08p
Subj: Re: Only see part of the gif            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >Slightly off topic.  When viewing some large size byte gifs, I can only
 >see part of the picture.  I have a 640x480 monitor with a 512k video
 >card.  Would going to a 1mb card do the trick?
 >
 >Thanks

Yes or you could use something like Cshow 8.60 that does what is known as a
virtual screen.

                               Mike Harris

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From: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                      Number: 12018
  To: RICHARD BUNTON                           Date: 02/15/94  6:41p
Subj: sdult cd's trade/sell                   Refer: NONE
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Richard;

Sorry I wasn't able to help you, however I will have a few additional trades
in a few weeks, and will post the cd trades or sell items here.

Thanks agai......


                       -=Frank=-

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From: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                      Number: 12019
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/15/94  6:42p
Subj: adult cd's trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



Randy;


Does everyone have the same interests?

I also have the cd's you offered.

Maybe we can trade at some other time.


Thanks for the response....

                              -=Frank=-

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From: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                      Number: 12020
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 02/15/94  6:44p
Subj: adult cd's trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


Shane;

Cou;ld you offer any additional info on what the cd onsists o.

Megs, contents, etc?


Thanks for the time.


                          -=Frank=-

                     302-674-4537  anytime

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From: TOM CAUSLEY                            Number: 12021
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 02/16/94 12:56a
Subj: CD-ROM READERS FOR SALE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Hello Tom!
->
-> In a message to All <01/24/94> Tom Causley wrote:
->
-> TC> @0B@       @0C@We have upgraded our CD-ROM system to make availab
-> TC> @0C@       4 HITACHI EXTERNAL CD-ROM READERS, MODEL CDR-1503S
-> TC> @0C@       @0A@1503S units.............................$125.00ea
->  dude they are only 90 bux new..........
->
-> bubba
->
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->
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Bubba,
Far out dude, Thought I was in the right price range. GAG ME DUDE!!!!

Tom


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From: DICK WALSH                             Number: 12022
  To: TONY WHITE                               Date: 02/15/94  3:53p
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

This is tuesday and I still don't have them   I hope you did hang onto the
receipt  <Dick>  I will call your BBS when they arrive   UPS comes every
day and not this shipment.  <Dick>

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 12023
  To: MICHAEL BLITCH                           Date: 02/14/94  8:30a
Subj: Used & NEW CDs                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi How much do you want for Star Trek 25th anniversary?
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 12024
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94  5:50p
Subj: CD-ROM Software                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

For the detailed file listing of any of these CDs call the CMS 
support BBS at 812-898-2561.  Available first call.  HST 14,400 
online.  Look in file area #3. 
 
                         CMS CD-ROMS 
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                     ShareWare OnLine #2 
 
This CD-ROM is 625+ MEGS of late title shareware!  This CD 
contains only QUALITY programs and comes with an updated file 
retrieval system.  This disc also contains file description 
formats for virtually every BBS software package on the market 
today!  Satisfaction is guaranteed!  $24.95 
 
                     ShareWare OnLine #3 
 
The 3rd CD in the ShareWare OnLine series.  This version has 
around 660 MEGS of software with file dates no older than 
08-01-93!  This is the most up-to-date collection of software 
available on CD-ROM today.  100% BBS ready with updated file 
retrieval software.  $34.95.  Will be shipping around 02-26. 
 
                   The GameWare Collection 
 
This disc contains around 6,500 shareware games on one CD-ROM! 
This is by far the LARGEST collection of PC games ever assembled 
with arcade games, board games, games for CGA, EGA, and VGA, & 
SVGA text games, sound blaster shoot'em ups, & many more!  This 
is the most unique and exciting entertainment CD-ROM available 
today.  Quantities limited.  Order yours today.  $24.95 
 
                  The SoundWare Collection 
 
"The SoundWare Collection" contains nearly 10,000 music & sound 
files for your sound card!  Included on this disc are .CMF, 
.CMS, .MOD, .MID, .ROL, .SND, .VOC, and .WAV files.  These files 
are ready to be played through your sound card with no modification. 
Many custom files are included which are found on no other CD-ROM 
disc. If you have or plan to purchase a sound card this disc is 
a MUST!  $29.95  Now Shipping! 
 
               The User's Choice Windows Archive 
 
"The User's Choice" Windows (TM) archive contains over 5,500 
files just for the Windows operating system.  This is the LARGEST 
collection of Windows related software on CD-ROM you can buy today. 
This disc contains 675 MEGABYTES of Windows programs and supporting 
software!  100% BBS ready.  $29.95   Now Shipping! 
 
                  The Software Treasure Chest 
 
"The Software Treasure Chest" is an excellent collection of 
software on CD-ROM.  This disc is filled with 675 MEGS with all 
kinds of software ranging from games to utilities to Windows 
software.  This disc is fully BBS ready with file descriptions 
in several formats for use on virtually all kinds of BBS 
software.  Excellent file retrieval software is also included 
for the end users.  $24.95   Now Shipping! 
 
                     The Software Tool Chest 
 
The Software Tool Chest is a huge collection of software tools. 
On this disc you will find thousands of utility programs. Any- 
thing from DOS and Windows utilities to Graphics and Music & 
Sound Utilities and so much more.  Over 5,000 programs totaling 
over 600 MEGABYTES!  $29.95   Now Shipping! 
 
                       A.P.L. Volume #1 
 
The "A)dult P)icture L)ibrary" is a GIANT collection of adult 
GIF pictures, GL movies, DL movies, and FLI animation.  This 
disc is EXPLODING with 689 MEGS of adult software!  This disc 
contains 3,112 GIFS, 168 GL movies, 90 DL movies, 84 FLI movies, 
and 52 programs for viewing all the software on the disc.  Now 
Shipping.  $37.95.  Must be age 21+ 
 
               Digital Delights    (02-19-94) 
 
"Digital Delights" is an excellent collection of new adult 
pictures and fantasy text files.  Over 500 MEGABYTES of GIF 
pictures are included.  Many are 1024 X 768 resolution.  Over 
400 fantasy text files are also included.  These text files 
are readable directly from the CD-ROM with no viewer needed. 
A viewer for the GIF pictures is also included.  No need to 
install anything to your hard disk!  This disc is fully BBS 
ready with multi-line file descriptions in several formats 
for use on virtually every type of BBS software used today! 
No BBS ads in any of the pictures.  All new for 94!  Must be 
age 21+ to purchase this disc.  $37.95  Ship date: 2-19-94 
 
        Bonus: Order all 9 CD-ROMs for only $189.95! 
       (Supply on some titles limited.  Order today!) 
 
Visa, Mastercard, check, money order, and COD orders accepted. 
Credit cards and personal checks are not charged until we ship. 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN 47878  812-442-0110 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 12025
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94  5:50p
Subj: New Digital Delights Adult CD-ROM       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We are now accepting preorders for the all new BBS ready adult 
title from Gibson Publishing.  As always you get FREE shipping 
for preordering.  For the dealers we also have dealer pricing 
available for this new title.  Call for information. 
 
               Digital Delights    (02-19-94) 
 
"Digital Delights" is an excellent collection of new adult 
pictures and fantasy text files.  Over 500 MEGABYTES of GIF 
pictures are included.  Many are 1024 X 768 resolution.  Over 
400 fantasy text files are also included.  These text files 
are readable directly from the CD-ROM with no viewer needed. 
A viewer for the GIF pictures is also included.  No need to 
install anything to your hard disk!  This disc is fully BBS 
ready with multi-line file descriptions in several formats 
for use on virtually every type of BBS software used today! 
No BBS ads in any of the pictures.  All new for 94!  Must be 
age 21+ to purchase this disc.  $35.00. 
 
Visa, Mastercard, check, money order, and COD orders accepted. 
Credit cards and personal checks are not charged until we ship. 
 
    Preorder both ShareWare OnLine #3 and Digital Delights 
                       for only $59.95. 
 
    Adult Reference Library, Ultimate Erotica, D.D. $79.95 
 
       A.P.L., Ultimate Erotica, Storm-2, D.D.  $114.95 
 
      650+ MEG shareware CD only $5.95 with any purchase! 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN 47878  812-442-0110 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 12026
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94  5:50p
Subj: CD-ROM Software Bundle Pricing          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Look below for some great CD-ROM Software Bundles from CMS. 
 
      650+ MEG Shareware CD only $5.95 with any purchase. 
 
    The B following the price indicates a BBS ready CD-ROM. 
 
Priority Male Adult - $34.95B  Software Treasure Chest - $24.95B 
Q69 Adult           - $34.95   Super Smutware          - $34.95B 
Software Tool Chest - $29.95B  Digital Delights        - $37.95B(2-19) 
ShareWare OnLine #2 - $24.95B  Adult Reference Library - $34.95B 
GameWare Collection - $24.95B  SoundWare Collection    - $29.95B 
Storm-2 Adult       - $24.95B  ShareWare OnLine #3     - $34.95B(2-26) 
User's Choice Windows $29.95B  A.P.L. Adult            - $37.95 
Ultimate Erotica    - $37.95   Digital Dreams 1        - $24.95B 
Swimwear 93         - $19.95B  Digital Dreams 2        - $28.95B 
 
                ***** BUNDLED CD PRICING ***** 
 
User's Choice Windows                     SoundWare Collection 
ShareWare OnLine #2                       GameWare Collection 
Software Treasure Chest                   ShareWare OnLine #2 
    $49.95                                    $49.95 
 
ShareWare OnLine #2                       Digital Dreams #2 
SoundWare Collection                      A.P.L. Adult 
GameWare Collection                       Adult Reference Library 
User's Choice Windows                     Digital Dreams #1 
Software Treasure Chest                   Ultimate Erotica 
Software Tool Chest                       Digital Delights 
ShareWare OnLine #3   $149.95             Q69 Adult     $169.95 
 
Software Tool Chest                       User's Choice Windows 
Software Treasure Chest                   ShareWare OnLine #2 
ShareWare OnLine #2                       A.P.L. Adult 
ShareWare OnLine #3                       Digital Dreams #2 
    $79.95                                    $74.95 
 
Digital Delights                          Digital Dreams #2 
A.P.L. Adult                              Q69 Adult 
Ultimate Erotica                          A.P.L. Adult 
    $69.95                                    $59.95 
 
Adult Reference Library                   A.P.L. Adult 
Digital Delights                          Super Smutware 
Digital Dreams #2                         Q69 Adult 
    $69.95                                    $59.95 
 
A.P.L./User's Choice                      Q69/ShareWare OnLine 2 
    $44.95                                    $44.95 
 
Ultimate Erotica/SWOL #3                  Digital Delights/SWOL #3 
    $59.95                                    $59.95 
 
CMS accepts Visa & Mastercard, check, M.O., and COD orders. 
$5.00 standard shipping on any order.  These prices are in 
effect for a short time only.  Get your orders sent TODAY!  CMS 
does accept your trades!  PUBLISHERS/DEALERS: Call us to trade 
your titles for ours or for wholesale pricing! 
Last updated: 02-16-1994. 
 
       CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
                   TELEPHONE: 812-442-0110 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 12027
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94  5:50p
Subj: CD-ROM Software Closeouts               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   CMS SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTING 
                         P.O. BOX 165 
                     SEELYVILLE, IN  47878 
                         812-442-0110 
 
                      Updated 02-12-1994 
 
Its a fact.  CMS is overstocked and to make room for the 
upcomming remodeling and expansion of CMS Software we MUST 
LIQUIDATE the following inventory.  Grab any of the following 
discs for $15 each, unless otherwise noted, while supplies last. 
Buy 7 and select one FREE*.  We will hold nothing back until this 
inventory is GONE.  One of some titles and hundreds of others 
but it ALL must go.  Some discs are used and most are new but 
all are guaranteed against defects.  Dealers call now for bulk 
pricing.  You may grab as many as you like and pay only $3 
shipping**.  You may place your order on Mastercard or Visa or we 
will ship your order COD for $5.00 additional.  You may mail 
your order with a personal check or money order to the address 
at the top of this ad.  * Free CD must be $15 or less.  ** A small 
insurance fee is added to each order. 
 
!!! 650+ MEG Shareware CD only $5.95 with any purchase !!! 
 
Barney Bear Goes to School      Cream of the Crop II ($20) 
675 MEG Windows CD-ROM          Multi-Media Bookshelf ($25) 
Barney Bear Goes to Space       Fresh Arte Clipart 
Software Vault Gold 
FontMaster                      Toolworks MM Enyclopedia ($25) 
LaserTax On CD-ROM              Consumer Guide to CD-ROMs 
Clipart Goliath                 Bibles & Religion 
Career Opportunities 
2000 Pictures CD-ROM            ShareWare OnLine II 
Software Treasure Chest         Crossword Cracker 
LookUp 9 Digit ZIP Lookup ($25) 
DataBase Made Easy              Swimwear 1993 
Storm #2 ($25)                  Mother Earth II 
Adult Reference Library ($30)   Digital Dreams #1 ($25) 
Between Heaven & Hell II        Digital Dreams #2 ($25) 
Gameware Collection             Danger Hot Stuff 
CAD Utility Library             Adult Picture Library #1 ($25) 
Paolo Galli Portfolio #1 ($20)  Paolo Galli Portfolio #2 ($20) 
------------------------------------------------------------ 
Grab the following titles for only $10.00 each while supplies 
last.  Buy 5 get 1 free!  1 of some and 100's of others but all 
will surely go quickly so get you orders in today. 
 
Phoenix Phun & Games            Brain Drain Games 
Oldies But Goodies Games        Bed & Breakfast Photo Tour 
Mirror Mirror                   Reel Clips 
Futura Games                    Let's Play (Games) 
Variety Store (Games)           Taxprep 
Selectware Software             MPC Wizard 
PC Gameroom                     Middle East Diary 
PC-SIG Version 11               Klotski Polish Puzzles 
Time Almanac                    Fightsmart 
PC-SIG Version 10               QuickArt Clipart 
 
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From: ALAN EVANS                             Number: 12028
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94  5:51p
Subj: ShareWare OnLine #3 CD-ROM Preorders    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    !!! NOW ACCEPTING PREORDERS !!! 
 
ShareWare OnLine 3 will soon be released!  We are now accepting 
preorders.  The preorder price is $34.95 and as always you get 
FREE shipping to your door for preordering.  Registered users of 
ShareWare OnLine will be receiving your special order 
instructions by mail soon. 
 
This new disc will contain over 600 MEGS of new software.  NO 
PROGRAMS INCLUDED ON THIS VERSION WILL BE OLDER THAN 08-01-1993! 
No other shareware CD can make that claim.  Over 600 MEGS of 
fresh files.  Many programs come directly from the author. 
 
The CD will be fully BBS ready with full multi-line file 
descriptions.  A master directory of BBS file descriptions will 
be included as well as description index files in each directory. 
 
We have updated our retrieval software to run faster and install 
easier.  You may tag, copy, view, unzip, and view pictures 
directly from the retrieval software. 
 
You may preorder your disc by telephone or send your order by 
mail to the address listed below.  Credit cards and checks are 
not cashed until we ship. 
 
Your complete satisfaction is GUARANTEED with ShareWare OnLine 
#3. Approximate ship date is 03-01-94 or sooner. 
 
Authors: You still have time to get your programs to CMS for 
review and possible distribution.  Send all software with a 
simple program description to the address listed below. 
Accepting until 02-18-94. 
 
CMS SOFTWARE, P.O. BOX 165, SEELYVILLE, IN   47878 
Orders Only: 800-768-7929     Information: 812-442-0110 
 
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From: PHILIP BROWN                           Number: 12029
  To: CHRIS JOHNSON                            Date: 02/15/94 10:57p
Subj: SoundWare CD via Flaming Star!          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CJ>        I'm very interested in this CD for JUST the .mod's.  can you
CJ>        send me a file list of just the .mod's so I can compare it
CJ>        for dupes that I already have?

Hello Chris, 

If you haven't found it by now it's in your file/holding directory.. I sent it
to you today..(2-15 at 2pmish). 

The BBS name in the nodelist said CONNECT! BBS...   That was different from
your tagline on the message? 

Let me know if you get it... 

Philip Brown
Flaming Star Computer Accessories
A Division of Brown Business Software
20 West Sutliff Drive
Terre Haute, Indiana  47802-9669
DATA: 812-898-2561 - The Flaming Star BBS 

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From: BOB FISHER                             Number: 12030
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94  7:59p
Subj: BOB' CD ROM CENTER                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NEW & GOOD SELECTION OF CD ROM DISC. PRICES FROM $4.95 TO $44.95.
PICK FROM IN STOCK OR SPECIAL ORDER.
BOB'S CD ROM CENTER
337 STATE ST.
CHARLOTTE, MICHIGAN 48813-1735
517 543-9690 (VOICE OR FAX)

ALSO GOOD PLACE TO TEST YOUR FAX PROGRAM. FROM 11-5 MON.-SAT.

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From: BRAD LUDES                             Number: 12031
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 02/14/94 10:46a
Subj: $99 Cd-Rom Drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Are these drives EXTERNAL and SCSI? If so.. I am DEFINETLY 
interested.
You can call me at (910) 392-5641
Brad Ludes


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From: AUDIE VICKERS                          Number: 12032
  To: CHARLES BEYER                            Date: 02/13/94  9:51p
Subj: PC-Sig CD                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CB>Audie,

CB>AV>   PC-Sig Library, version 8. (1990), with user's manual.
CB>AV>   Make offer.

CB>How about $10??

   Where you want it sent?
   My address is:

   3682 Late Morning Circle
   Kissimmee, Fl.  34744


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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 12033
  To: RICHARD LEIGHTON                         Date: 02/14/94 10:43a
Subj: Bodacious Beauties                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <02-09-94 06:54> Richard Leighton wrote:

 RL>  DV> $25.00 for the first node
 RL>  DV> $15.00 each additional node (up to five)
 RL>  DV> $12.00 each additional node (up to ten)
 RL>  DV> $10.00 each additional node thereafter

 RL>  Whats the price to us non BBS runners ?  $ 25.00 per disk?
      To NON-BBS runnners there is NO addition fees for there own private
      viewing pleasure, just the price it was purchased for.

 RL>  Will it be ok to upload Choice files to a BBS after buying the CD?
      NO only sysops that have licensed the disc may distribute the images.

 RL>  Are these all New Scans or was this disk put together from
 RL>  downloading from bbs's or % of each?
      ALL of the scan are NEW and scanned from original 35mm slides at
      1024x768x256. The disc contains over 2000 images with a new point and
      click Graphical User Interface (GUI).

I hope that this has answered your question, if you have any further
question please feel free to ask.

                        Blaine R. Richard III

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From: DAVID MANZ                             Number: 12034
  To: BRAD MANNING                             Date: 02/14/94  5:54a
Subj: Continuation                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

--> David Manz Quotes a message written by Brad Manning
--> to David Manz on 14:37 02-12-94 saying:
BM> whAT IS 7TH GUEST OEM? IS THE SHERLOCK HOLMES CONSULTING DETEC
BM> FOR 20 DOLLARS THE ONE THATS MOVIE CLIPS?
BM> 
The OEM version is Just the disk in a jewl case, no big books or fancy boxes.
Every thing you need to play comes on the disk.
 Now the Sjerlock Holmes Consulting Detective has like 90 minutes of movie
clips on it, but I think the price was 23 dollars, ( not real sure would have
to look it up )....
David
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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 12035
  To: RICHARD LEIGHTON                         Date: 02/15/94  6:36p
Subj: Re: Bodacious Beauties                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a message to David Vangelder <02-09-94 06:54> Richard Leighton wrote:

RL>   -=> Quoting David Vangelder to All <=-
RL>
RL>   DV> ************************ BODACIOUS BEAUTIES
RL>  ***********************
RL>   DV> *********************** FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!!
RL>  ********************
RL>   DV> ********* FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS
RL>  *********
RL>
RL>   DV> $25.00 for the first node
RL>   DV> $15.00 each additional node (up to five)
RL>   DV> $12.00 each additional node (up to ten)
RL>   DV> $10.00 each additional node thereafter
RL>
RL>   Hi David, Whats the price to us non BBS runners ?  $ 25.00 per disk
RL>  ?
RL>   Will it be ok to upload Choice files to a BBS after buying the CD ?
RL>   Are these all New Scans or was this disk put together from
RL>  downloading
RL>   from bbs's or % of each ?
RL>                                                          Thanks
RL>                                                          Richard

Richard, thanks for your post. The price for Bodacious Beauties will be
higher than $25.00, exactly what it will be will depend on what the
distributors care to charge for it.  Look at the dist on this echo
or call me at 407-831-3011 and I'll be glad to recommend a dist to you.
The images on Bodacious Beauties are not to be distributed except by
licensed BBSs to their subscribers.  They should not be uploaded to any
BBS or otherwise distributed.  The images on Bodacious Beauties are all
new scans from original 35mm slides and are copyrighted.

If you decide to purchase the disc, I hope you enjoy it.

David  
 
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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 12036
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94  6:59p
Subj: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

**************** GRAPHICAL IMAGES OF FLORIDA, INC. ****************

                              Presents

************************ BODACIOUS BEAUTIES ***********************

               Available NOW from your distributor!!!

From Mr. Bob Jackson's review:

     B_BEAUTS's images run the gamut from non-nudes to XX (e.g. legs
     akimbo) and even a couple of near-XXX, depending on one's
     interpretation. That said, everyone should understand that this isn't
     a CD for the swimsuit or lingerie fan. Even when the first few scans
     of a given model are not nudes, her clothes quickly come off as the
     sequence proceeds and the poses get hotter. The CD's title
     notwithstanding, there's plenty of pink displayed along the walk down
     mammary lane. There's plenty of scans of both overt and implied
     sapphic and hetero sex and oral activities. In sum, this is a not a CD
     for the faint of heart!

     In my opinion, with very few exceptions driven by subjective personal
     tastes, the ladies of B_BEAUTS's are GORGEOUS! They're professionally
     made-up with elegant props and captured by generally professional-
     quality photography. This is a knock-your-eyes-out CD for sure. While
     the vast majority of the scans are studio shots, there are some
     alfresco scans as well. If you liked GIOF's earlier release "Southern
     Beauties", you're going to love B_BEAUTS!

     Bottom Line -  This is a better CD than Southern Beauties, and that's
     saying something! My recommendation, FWIW, is that this product is
     well worth adding to your personal collection.

     B_BEAUTS is an unqualified winner IMHO. If licensed collections are
     here to stay, and in-the-know sources say they are, then this CD is
     showing, and leading the way.

Mr. Jackson's complete review (including his constructive criticisms) is
available for download (713-589-2690 to 14.4) or FREQing (Node ID:1:106/30)
from The Hard Disc Cafe BBS in Houston, TX. A guest login ID of CD REVIEW
or CD_REVIEW will get you download privileges for the ZIPped file:
"B_BEAUTS.ZIP" (all three parts).



            A FULLY COMMERCIAL -- FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC

             More Than 85 Well Known BODACIOUS BEAUTIES
               Over 2,000 Hi-Res GIFs at 1024x768x256
             Over 650 Megabytes (including thumbnails)
                      From Original 35mm Slides
                          New GUI Interface
                      Installs Quickly & Easily
                       Extremely User Friendly
                      Mouse Support & Popup Help
                     Multiple Directory Slide Show

                               RATED - X

*********************** FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!! ********************
********* FOR A NOMINAL LICENSING FEE ON A PER NODE BASIS *********

                     $25.00 for the first node
               $15.00 each for the next four nodes
               $12.00 each for the next five nodes
            $10.00 for each additional node thereafter

***********************************************************************
                   TOTAL STATS for BODACIOUS BEAUTIES
***********************************************************************

Total GIF files listed:               2071 file(s)  630769139 bytes
Total Thumbnail CVI files:              46 file(s)   36215616 bytes
Total MAP files:                        46 file(s)     856428 bytes
Total FILES.BBS files:                   9 file(s)      70493 bytes
Total files in ILLUSION directory:      43 file(s)    6982582 bytes
Total files in VPIC directory:          64 file(s)     393325 bytes
INSTALL.BAT                              1 file(s)         97 bytes

TOTAL FILES ON BODACIOUS BEAUTIES:    2280 file(s)  675287680 bytes
*******************************************************************
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From: ALLEN DIETZ                            Number: 12037
  To: MARIO LERMITTE                           Date: 02/13/94  8:50a
Subj: Bible Library CDROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mario, in early January you offered to buy the Bible Library CDROM
from me, and told me the $25 payment was on the way.  I have not yet
received your payment for the CDROM.  It's been over a month since
you promised to mail me the money.  I assume you are no longer
interested in it and will try to sell the Bible Library CDROM to
someone else.

Allen


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From: SCOTT WEEMS                            Number: 12038
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94  5:28a
Subj: Computer & Hardware                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Ok peoples I gotta sell this stuff, bill collectors are starting to hound
me.(g)

1)  1 ea Packard Bell 416sx (386), VGA Monitor, 40 Meg HD, 256K mem, 5.25
floppy. works great, make a excellant second for the kids, $350.00.

2)  2 ea 80 meg Maxtor, guarenteed to work, $80.00.

3)  2 ea Sony External Dual CD-Rom's specs:

    Data Transfer rate
      sustained transfer rate:   150 KBytes/s
      burst transfer rate:       2.1 MBytes/s

    Access Time
     full Stroke:         0.95
     average:             0.55

w/docs and card, $450.00 ea or $800.00 for both
These are excellant drives for a BBS or anything else.

This stuff has gotta go and at these prices it should!
No trades, money talks!

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From: JEREMY MCDONALD                        Number: 12039
  To: JASON PAUL                               Date: 02/13/94  9:40p
Subj: Apple 150 wanted                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On Thu 10 Feb 94  1:49, Jason Paul had this to say about Apple 150 wanted:

 JP> I would like to buy an Apple 150 external CD-ROM drive and scsi
terminator.
 JP>  Please let me know if you have one for sale.  Thanks!
 JP> 
 JP> --- DLG Pro v1.0/DLGMail
 JP>  * Origin: Amiga Cub BBS (319)353-0658 (1:283/667)

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From: CHRISTOPHER MCKEEN                     Number: 12040
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94  3:47p
Subj: Wanted DRM-600a Cheap                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone want to sell a DRM-600a drive cheap?


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12041
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94  1:43a
Subj: MPC2 What is it                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What does MPC2 level mean.  I know what MPC1 is.  Is a double speed cd
player required to meet this specification?

Thanks
Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12042
  To: JIGER DESAI                              Date: 02/13/94  1:53a
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Will trade: Storm II or III, or Adult Reference Library for Local Girls.

JD>Local Girls, 3-in-1 disk $15

Will trade Bodacious Beauties for Rebel Assult if NOT the OEM version.

JD>Rebel Assult - $37


All my discs to trade are adult discs.
Thanks
Randy

Note: Bodacious Beauties is only 1 week old and just released.

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12043
  To: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                        Date: 02/13/94  1:55a
Subj: adult cd's trade                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FCJ>If you have anything else to trade, please let me know. I have about 25 Adu

Frank, I have Storm II and III, Giffy Gold, and Adult Reference Library
to trade for other adult discs.  Have anything to trade?

Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12044
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94  1:58a
Subj: Double Speed drive wanted               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking to purchase an internal Double Speed cd drive for around $200 or
so.  Any such thing?  Anyone tried the new Mitsumi new double speed
drives?

Thanks
Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12045
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 02/13/94  2:00a
Subj: SOFTWARE VAULT PLATINUM                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BO>Pictures & GIFs, Spreadsheets, Educational, Database, Ham Radio Utilities, L
BO>Utilities, BBS Utilities, and many more.)
BO>                    SOFTWARE VAULT PLATINUM - $18.00

Boris, any idea how many dupes to Top Drawer?  Thanks.

Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12046
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94  2:05a
Subj: Only see part of the gif                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Slightly off topic.  When viewing some large size byte gifs, I can only
see part of the picture.  I have a 640x480 monitor with a 512k video
card.  Would going to a 1mb card do the trick?

Thanks
Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12047
  To: MICHAEL BLITCH                           Date: 02/13/94  3:18a
Subj: Used & NEW CDs                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>Rebel Assault (NEW! Package still shrink-wrapped!!!)

Michael, I have the new just released Bodacious Beauties adult disc to
trade for Rebel Assult.  I will netmail you also.

Randy
1:309/71


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12048
  To: JIGER DESAI                              Date: 02/13/94  3:22a
Subj: FOR SALE                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JD>Rebel Assult - $39

I have the newly released Bodacious Beauties (adult) to trade for Rebel
Assult if it is NOT the OEM version.  Need the manual, reg card etc.

Thanks
Randy
602-459-3480


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12049
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94  7:41a
Subj: Want Rebel Assult CD Disc               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I wish to trade Bodacious Beauties (Adult) for Rebel Assult (NOT the OEM
version, but the one with manual and reg card).  Bodacious Beauties is
the newly released disc full of SVGA gifs of well known porno stars.  A
great disc, I might add.

Randy Neuner
bbs 602-459-4034
Fido 1:309/71

Net mail me or respond in this echo.

Thanks


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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 12050
  To: JASON BROTHERS                           Date: 02/12/94 10:34a
Subj: Re: X-Rated? What's best?               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I would suggest the brand new CD-ROM called Hot Pics! It has pictures of all
types and all ratings with various types of interest and has over 600+ MB
of data on it.  I could sell it to you for $38.95.  Give me a call voice
at (915)673-1911 or call my BBS at (915)673-8181.

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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 12051
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/12/94 10:40a
Subj: Adult CD-ROMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   Digital Broadcast Video
*                   3318 South 7th Street
*                  Abilene, TX 79605
* 
*    VOICE: (915)673-1911 BBS: (915)673-8173 14.4 BBS: (915)673-8181
* 
*   ****************** Adult CD-ROM Titles ****************************
* 
*Hot Pics 5.................................................... $ 22.50
*Amateur Models................................................   22.50
*A.P.L. Volume 1...............................................   22.50
**NEW* Interactive Adult Movie Almanac.........................   56.95
**NEW* Interactive Playboy Electronic Datebook.................   38.25
*Island Girls..................................................   16.95
*Island Girls Volume 2.........................................   16.95
*Hawaiian Classic..............................................   19.95
*Kama Sutra....................................................   38.95
*King Dong.....................................................   44.50
**NEW* Pinch of Pepper.........................................   44.50
**NEW* Hot Pics!...............................................   38.95
*Penthouse Interactive.........................................   81.00
*Secrets *New Machine Publishing*..............................   22.50
*House of Dreams *New Machine Publishing*......................   22.50
*New Wave Hookers *New Machine Publishing*.....................   22.50
* 
*Many other titles available, call for pricing...  We also sell many
*non-adult CD-ROM titles.
*   
*You must be 18 years of age or older to order any of the above titles.
*Terms are as follows, we accept VISA, Mastercard, Money Order, and COD.
*add additional $5.00 for COD Charges.
* 
*Phone Lines Open 7-days a week 9am - 9pm CST.   If residing in Texas be
*sure to include 8.25% sales tax.   Make all checks and money orders
*payable to Digital Broadcast Video.
* 
*P.S. We will also give you a trade in discount on used Adult CD-ROMS, or
*     we will purchase your used Adult CD-ROMS.

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From: JOHN KING                              Number: 12052
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94  6:45p
Subj: HACKER CD-ROM's                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  Dose anyone know of any REAL Hacker cd's.  I mean viruses in zip formed,how
to hack BBS, how not to be hacked, how do what you want to computers, servers,
bbs, ect.  I WANT the really stuff....or dose anyone know of HACKER
programs......PLEASE GET BACK TO ME
?

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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 12053
  To: MICHAEL BLITCH                           Date: 02/14/94  8:58a
Subj: Used & NEW CDs                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

07 Feb 94 16:59, MICHAEL BLITCH wrote to ALL:

 MB> I am looking for used(maybe new) adult CD-Roms. They must have XXX
 MB> format(meaning I don't want any full of R's). I have any of the items
 MB> below for trade or sale. All items have origional docs, disks, & boxes.
 MB> I will consider any trade and will accept 2 for 1 trades(two of my stuff
 MB> for your one). I am getting rid of these because of already solving them
 MB> all. I am especially interested in getting any of these : storm series,
 MB> Fao series, Flame, Forbidden Subjects, or T&A to the Maxx.

 MB> CD-Roms...

 MB> Dracula Unleashed
 MB> Rebel Assault (NEW! Package still shrink-wrapped!!!)

How about XXX Extreme for the above?


Roger

  3627 Manchaca #215  Austin, Texas 78704
  Internet: davis@cactus.org
  512-440-7670

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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 12054
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94  4:38p
Subj: Custom CDROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*** Replication available! ***
*** New format supported: 4MM DAT ***

We can transfer your programs and data to Industry Standard recordable
CDROM, which is compatible with any ISO9660 compliant CDROM reader.

If you need replication services, we can provide them in quantities AS
LOW AS 50 units.

Pricing:
--------
           Setup (Floppy):  $100
             Setup (Tape):   $50
               Setup (CD):   $25

              Record 1 CD:   $50
Additional copies (2 - 5):   $45
   FedEx Two Day Standard:   $Free
          FedEx Overnight:   $Varies

Setup charges cover importing your data to our machine, and MINOR changes if
they are needed.  We're reasonable, and if there's a problem with your data,
you'll hear about it before we commit to CD.

Our recorded product comes with a 30 day money back warranty against
defects.  If it won't work in your system, and we can't help you
adjust your setups to use it, return it for a full refund.

QUICK Same-day turnaround is the only way we do business.  Our service is
confidential and secure.   Fast, friendly, and honest.  That's why you
should make US your source for "one off" CDROM.


CD Replication:
---------------
 A new service we offer is low quantity replication.  We produce a copy
 of your data on CD-R media and have it replicated for you.  Turnaround
 time is approximately two weeks.   Prices quoted reflect two color
 insert, and printing on CD.   Call for pricing on 4 color artwork.

Replication fees:
-----------------
   Quantity      Glass Master    Per disk      Total   Tot.cost/disk
  -----------    ------------   ----------   --------  --------------
      50            $600          $2.50        $725        $14.50
     100            $600          $2.50        $850         $8.50
     200            $600          $2.40       $1080         $5.40
     500            $325          $2.10       $1425         $2.85


Replication prices do NOT include the cost of shipping, or CD-R
production.  Provide your own CD-R copy, or we can make it FOR
you.

Reorders can re-use the Glass, and are subject to a $215 setup fee.
Reorders of 500 or more waive the setup fee.


Getting your data to us:
------------------------
Formats Supported:   o CD           o 4mm DAT
                     o QIC-40/80    o Floppy
                     o DC6XXX Tape

Shipping:
---------
All CD-R orders to the 48 contiguous states are shipped via Federal Express
Two day economy, unless customer specifies a different carrier.   Priority
overnight, and Saturday delivery available at additional expense.

Terms:
------
Prepay for service via certified funds.  Personal checks must clear
our bank before production begins.  Sorry, we cannot presently accept
Visa/MasterCard.


For more information:
---------------------
Contact us by voice, or by any of the network addresses listed.

Loyd Craft
C/O Digital Enterprises
125 S. Saginaw
St. Charles, MI 48655

Voice: 517-865-8075      Internet: Loyd.Craft@fourstar.mi.org
 Rime: ->SPS             Fidonet: 1:239/900.0

(C) 1993 Digital Enterprises

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 12055
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94  6:33a
Subj: CD's 4-Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 February 1994        Saylor Enterprises   (317) 881-9391
 **************************************************************************

 9000 Sounds...................21.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........22.50
 American Business Phonebk 93..24.00    MVP Game Jamboree.............12.00
 America's Premier Shareware...14.00    Night Owl 10.0................30.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......23.00    Night Owl Games...............18.00
 Color Magic PC/MAC............24.00    Night Owl Grpahics............23.00
 Dictionaries and Languages....15.00    Pier 3........................25.00
 DR.Games......................15.00    Publishers Paradise Pro.......32.00
 DR.Music......................15.00    Shareware '93.................21.00
 DR.Windows....................15.00    Shareware Explorer 4 Disk.....38.00
 Games 1993....................22.00    Shareware Studio #3...........15.00
 Hackers Chronicles............27.00    So Much Shareware #3..........23.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................15.00    Software Vault Gold...........18.50
 Home and Office Legal Guide...15.00    Tech. Arsenel.................20.00
 House of Games................16.50    Windows 1993..................21.00
 Lan Master....................21.00    Windowware....................15.00
 Monster Media '93.............23.50    Window Master.................20.00
** All disk do not include shipping.
===========================================================================
                      Special:
 Rebel Assult Delivered to your Door...........$50.00
 Shareware Overload Trio...(3 Disk Set)........$20.00
===========================================================================


       You can FREQ the Newest CD Files list from 1:231/570 by FREQing
                 CD-ROM.TXT or our Adult list is AD.TXT

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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 12056
  To: MICHAEL BLITCH                           Date: 02/14/94  4:12p
Subj: Re: Cd For Sale Or Trade!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



              -|-  Quoting Michael Blitch to Don Oldenburg  -|-

 MB> Rebel Assault (NEW! Package still shrink-wrapped!!!)

Michael, interested in a trade?  Have Busty Babes II (newest release)
available in trade if interested.  Thanks in advance,

,\\a
rk

 
... I am Hamlet, prince of Borg.  Prepare to be...or not to be!
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From: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                      Number: 12057
  To: RAY KOTARA                               Date: 02/14/94  8:33a
Subj: sdult cd's trade/sell                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


Ray;

This is my address:
                          Frank Cirillo jr.

                        400 N. Dupont Hwy. Apt G-32

                        Dover, Delaware.  19901

                           302-674-4537

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From: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                      Number: 12058
  To: RAY KOTARA                               Date: 02/14/94  8:36a
Subj: sdult cd's trade/sell                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



Ray:

ok. i'll take the 47.00 offer, if you send it right away, or at least call me
voice and conferm the deal.


         Thanks again;

          -=Frank=-

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From: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                      Number: 12059
  To: LAYN HUFFMAN                             Date: 02/14/94  5:38p
Subj: cd sell/trade                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


Layn;

Receivedyour letter today. and will send your request tomorrow. (Feb 15, 1994)

Wed.

Anything else you need, let me knwo.

Been a pleasure doing business with you, also.

                           Thanks again;

                                     -=Frank=-

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From: BOB BAKER                              Number: 12060
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 02/13/94  8:55a
Subj: cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Would love to have it. Money,money monComputer this year, maybe
cd next. Thanks for asking.

                                         thank you


                                         Bob Baker

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From: MARK MONTMINY                          Number: 12061
  To: EDDIE IMPERIAL                           Date: 02/12/94 11:14p
Subj: Re: Cd Trades!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Text preceded by EI> was written by Eddie Imperial on 10 Feb 94  22:05:02.

 EI> 4. Giffy Gold
 EI> 5. Amature Models

I have Hot Pix V, 7th Heaven, and Busty Babes v1r2 if you'd like to trade one
for one.

 -- There's a fine line between courage and foolishness.  Too bad it's not
a fence.

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From: JONATHAN CHAU                          Number: 12062
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 02/14/94  9:58a
Subj: OS/2 2.1 CD-ROM Edition                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 02-06-1994, MICHAEL KELLY had the audacity to speak to LLOYD
NICKENS...

MK> He is selling OS/2 2.1 on CD-ROM.  That does not cost $36 at
MK> Egghead software. It costs more like $100-$120.  You are referring
MK> to OS/2 for Windows on CD-ROM which is very different.  OS/2 for
MK> Windows does not include DOS or Windows support in the package.  You
MK> must have DOS/Windows installed on your computer prior to installing
MK> OS/2 for Windows.

Uhhh no.  OS/2 for Windows isn't "very different".  The only thing it
lacks is WinOS2.  DOS support _is_ included.

Jonathan.  [Team OS/2]
Internet - jonc@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
CompuServe - 72712,2232


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 12063
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/14/94  9:39p
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BF:>>Both excellent, but we've sold OS/2Box's about 5:1 over Hobbes if that's
an
BF:>>indication.

BF:> I sell Hobbes over OS/2 Box 3:1 or 4:1 so far....

Good for you, except that the profit margins on Hobbes are a lot skinnier
than OS/2Box....at least for me. <g>

.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 12064
  To: DOUG MCCLELLAN                           Date: 02/14/94  9:39p
Subj: backorders                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DM:>-> Yes, sorry Doug.  They have been out of production for some time, and
DM:>-> not stock them.  Look for our adult CD price list in this packet for
DM:>-> complete listing of all the titles we carry.  Feel free to pick an
DM:>-> alternate, or if you wish I can refund your money.

DM:>A refund would be great. If you could include a current cd listing, that
DM:>would be even better. Thanks for the reply, and let me know if you no
DM:>longer have my address on file.

Will take care of it immediately, and sorry for the hassle.  New catalog is
on the way too.

Bye,
.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 12065
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 02/14/94  9:40p
Subj: Night Owl version 11 !!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC:> MS> constantly being recalled and/or recut.  Furthermore, I think your
DC:> MS> statement about "NO problems" with ver. 11, is a
DC:> MS> bit exaggerated.  Would
DC:> MS> you care to set the record straight as to whether version 11 was
DC:> MS> re-pressed, and if so why?  I'm really not trying to hurt Night Owl's

DC:>Ask about the Disney pictures <g>.

Yeah, I know......S.O.S.  8)

.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 12066
  To: NATIONAL COMPUTERS                       Date: 02/14/94  9:40p
Subj: Adult Prices                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NC:>Do you have special prices for dealers and wholesalers?

William,

Yes we do have mix-n-match quantity discounts for resellers.  Give me a
call and we can help you out I'm sure.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 12067
  To: MICHAEL PRIMAVERA                        Date: 02/14/94  9:40p
Subj: Hell Cab                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MP:>Whats the best price on Hell Cab? Does anyone know if this game is
MP:>worth the price? I'm interestedit buying this game but would like more
MP:>info on it before I layout the bucks. Any info will be apreciated!

I don't know what the best price is, but we sell them for $64.30.  Haven't
heard a negative review on it yet, but it does say on the front of the box
that it may be "hazardous to your soul".....whatever that means.  Proceed
with caution Michael! <g>

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50


 * SLMR 2.1a * It's Ensign Pillsbury....he's bread Jim.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 12068
  To: PAUL STACK                               Date: 02/14/94  9:40p
Subj: Street Atlas CD Wanted Sa               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

PS:>Looking For The Street Atlas CD-ROM
PS:>I Think Its by Delorme and its version 2.0

Paul,

In stock at $89.90

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 12069
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94  9:40p
Subj: NEW CD PACKAGE DEALS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

      __________________________________________________________________
     |                                                                  |
     |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #5: SHAREWARE CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS   |
     |__________________________________________________________________|


   1. Night Owl 10.1       2. Pier 3              3. Cream of the Crop 2
      Night Owl 11            PC-Sig 13              CD Powerbox 2
      ------------            ---------              -------------
      $49                     $47                    $47


   4. Pier 3               5. CD Powerbox 2       6. Software Vlt. Gold
      Night Owl 11            Night Owl 11           Software Vlt. Platinum
      ------------            ------------           ----------------------
      $49                     $49                    $39


   7. Monster Media 1      8. Night Owl 9         9. Cream of the Crop 2
      Monster Media 2         Night Owl 10.1         Night Owl 11
      Monster Media 3         Night Owl 11           CD Powerbox 2
      ---------------         ------------           -------------
      $69                     $69                    $69


  10. Windows Collection  11. Night Owl Games    12. CD Powerbox 1
      Windows Companion       House of Games         PC-Sig 11
      CD Winbox               Dr. Games              Night Owl 6
      ---------               ---------              -----------
      $49                     $49                    $29

         BONUS:  Get CD Winbox for only $12 with any package deal!

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 400+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4.50 to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * I've told you a million times not to exaggerate.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 12070
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94  9:40p
Subj: NEW CD-ROM TITLES!                      Refer: NONE
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            ____________________________________________________
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           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #1:  NEW CD ARRIVALS   |
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                         > = new since last posting

 14000 PROGRAMS * Low cost shareware CD with LOADS of programs.......$14.60
 ALONE IN THE DARK * A virtual reality foray into the macabre!.......$67.20
 CD POWERBOX 2 * The newest of the new! Current shareware hits. BBS..$25.60
 COMMUNICATION MASTER * Utilities for Ham, Lan, and Networking.......$14.30
 COMPANION FOR OS/2 * Latest OS/2 CD w/ utils and sound files........$15.90
 COMPLETE HOUSE * Design your dream home with ease!..................$29.40
 CREAM OF THE CROP 2 * EZ BBS installation. 654mb of '93 files.......$25.00
>CURRENT SHAREWARE 94 * Brand new release w/ great book!. BBS........$27.20
 DESTINATION MARS * Will you be the first human to reach Mars?.......$22.00
 DIGITAL DREAMS 2 * Newest all-original "R" CD. No dupes to 1! BBS...$25.30
 DOCTOR'S BOOK OF HOME REMEDIES * Home remedy guide by Compton's.....$21.90
 GAMES COLLECTION * An all-games CD with 90% '93 file dates! BBS.....$20.00
 GAMES PLATINUM * Terrific Windows games that are playable from CD...$18.90
 GIRLS OF MARDI GRAS * New "R" adult film showcasing party girls.....$39.50
 GROLIER'S MPC 6.0 * The latest edition of Grolier's encyclopedia....$43.10
 HAM RADIO/SCANNER COMPANION * Lots of essential utilities for Hams..$15.90
 HEALTH & MEDICAL DIRECTORY * Guide to all doctors & hospitals in US.$19.20
 HELL CAB * You're going to have the worst cab ride in history!......$64.30
 HOLLYWOOD THE BIZARRE * Lives & deaths of the stars w/ voices.......$39.00
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 HOT WOMEN, HOT CARS * PG-rated video of exotic cars and hot babes...$14.30
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 LANGUAGE DISCOVERY * A fun way to learn Spanish, German, & French...$19.00
 MIDI & WAVE WORKSHOP * Full of MID, WAV, & MOD files from Rolland...$15.90
 MONSTER MEDIA VOL 3 * All '93 files from Sep-Dec w/ manual. BBS.....$27.90
 MULTIMEDIA MAGIC COLLECTION * Complete commercial programs & demos..$14.30
 MVP GAME JAMBOREE * Shareware games from MVP, some registered.......$11.30
 NIGHT OWL 11 * The latest in this long-running series. BBS-ready....$29.90
 NIGHT OWL WINDOWS * Great assortment of late-date Windows s/w. BBS..$24.90
 OCEANS BELOW * Fantastic multimedia exploration of undersea life....$20.50
 OS/2BOX * The best, most recent OS/2 shareware CD. Fully BBS-ready..$20.00
 -->SPECIAL PAK: OS/2BOX + HOBBES 10/93..............................$33.00
 PC-SIG 13 * The latest and greatest from PC-SIG. Disks 1-4203.......$24.90
 PHOTO CD DEMO * Great demo shows all you want to know about PhotoCD.$14.30
 PUBLISHER'S PARADISE PRO * Update with new Truetype fonts & clipart.$35.10
 PUZZLEMANIA * Fabulous jigsaw puzzles w/ 300+ different pictures....$14.30
>SCISSORS & STONES * Interactive adult game in "strip poker" fashion.$49.10
>SIZZLE * New copyrighted .GIF adult CD w/ file listings for BBS use.$29.80
>SO MUCH MODEM MADNESS * Tons of door utils, games, & bbs stuff......$17.40
 SO MUCH SPACE! * A galaxy full of breathtaking scenes from space....$18.90
>SOFTWARE VAULT PLATINUM * All 93/94 file dates. No dupes to Gold!...$19.90
 SOLAR HEAVEN * Nice collection of astronomy & astrology programs....$15.90
 SPACE & ASTRONOMY * Over 7000 image & shareware files on astronomy..$19.00
 STAR WARS CHESS * Let the Wookie win!...............................$29.50
>SWEET DREAMS * Another great "soft" adult CD w/ file listings.......$31.40
 USER'S CHOICE WINDOWS * 680mb of current Windows shareware. BBS.....$15.90
 VIDEO MOVIE GUIDE * Reviews 12,000 movies, from "B" to the hits.....$28.50
 VIRTUAL 3D * Realistic 3D images on your monitor. Comes w/ glasses!.$22.00
 VIRTUAL REALITY STARTER KIT * Everything you need for VR on your PC.$49.00
 WINDOWS COLLECTION * A Windows-only CD with ALL '93 file dates! BBS.$20.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

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 * SLMR 2.1a * Tagline thievery . . . On the next Oprah!

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12071
  To: JAMES POLLOCK                            Date: 02/15/94  7:14a
Subj: Re: Used & NEW CDs                      Refer: NONE
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JP>If you really do want to avoid spending any $$$, I'll swap you mine
JP>for REBEL ASSAULT or the two X-wing Add-on packs, or for the SB

James, how about your Rebel Assult for the newly released Bodacious
Beauties (adult) disc.  Released in Feb 94.  As long as you are over 21
that is.

Thanks
Randy


 * QMPro 1.51 * MSI - Redefining Telecommunications in '93


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12072
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 02/15/94  7:16a
Subj: Cd Trades!                              Refer: NONE
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MW> >4. Giffy Gold
MW> >   $24.00
MW>If this has no scratches, is in the original jewel case etc. I will offer $2

Send me $22.00 and I have one that is yours.

Leave msg if interested.
Thanks
Randy

Must be over 21 of course.

 * QMPro 1.51 * Press "+" to see another tagline.


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12073
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 02/15/94  7:18a
Subj: Re: Cd Trades!                          Refer: NONE
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EP> EI> 4. Giffy Gold

EP>I'll trade my "Sizzle" CD for any one of the above

I may be interested, but what is on the Sizzle disc.  I have Giffy Gold
to trade for something.

Randy


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 12074
  To: ROSE CITY                                Date: 02/17/94  8:30a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog!                         Refer: 12004
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->        (c) 1994  Pacific Data Graphics Inc.
->        We are not Affiliated with any other Cd-Rom Company

If you're going to conduct business in this echo, please use your real
name.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 12075
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 02/15/94  9:20p
Subj: GREATEST CDROM PRICES 1/2               Refer: NONE
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101 Sexual Position  #1        39  Mayo Clinic/Family Health /Win 29
101 Sexual Positions #2        39  Mega Movie Guide               39
20th Century Almanac *B        25  Mega Rap Rock & Roll /Windows  49
A Line In The Sand             29  Microsoft Bookshelf 93 *B      49
ACS Multimedia Sound Library   19  Microsoft Cinemania            65
Active SP-680 80watt Speakers 109  Microsoft Encarta              95
Adult Palate v1 PC/MAC/Photo   39  Microsoft Works For Windows    49
Adult Reference Library        29  Microsoft Works for Windows    45
Adventures /MPC                39  MIDI Music Shop /WIN *B        29
Adventures Of Willy Beamish *B 25  MidiScan for Windows (Disk)   279
After Dark Trilogy             49  MidiSoft MIDI Kit w/Record Ses 69
Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp 39  Midisoft Studio For Windows    50
All American Series MultiMedia 29  MidiSoft Studio,Music Library  50
All American Sights & Sounds   29  Midnight Movie Madness for WIN 39
All American Sports, BB/FB/TEN 39  Might & Magic: World of Xeen   49
All Music Guide                49  Mitsumi FX 2xSpd, 250ms, 350k 219
Alone in the Dark              55  Mitsumi Int. Drive, 350ms,150k139
Altec Lansing ACS-50 Speakers  79  MM Music Library (Diskette)    49
Alternate Lifesyles            49  Monarch Notes DOS/MAC          49
Amanda Stories MPC             45  Monster Media '93              29
Amateur Models                 39  Mother Earth II                39
American Girls PC/MAC/Photo    39  Mother Goose, Multimedia *B    29
American Heritage Illustrated  69  Movie Select /Windows          45
American Premier Shareware     19  Mozart                         25
Animals, San Deigo Zoo /WIN *B 29  MPC Wizard, Test & Tuneup      15
Animals, San Diego Zoo /DOS *B 29  MPU-401 Sound Card             55
Animation Fantasies #1         39  MRS 14 watt Amplified Speakers 79
Animation Fantasies #2         39  MRS 8 watt Amplified Speakers  49
Anthony Robbin's Power Talk    25  MS Beethoven 9th Symphony      59
Arthur's Teacher Trouble       49  Multimedia Computer Case      219
Arthur's Teacher Trouble *B    29  Multimedia Computer Guide *B   19
Asian Ladies                   49  Murder Makes Str. Deadfellows  45
Audobon /Complete Mammals/Bird 59  MusicPower-Learn Guitar (disk) 69
Audobons Birds Of America /MM  29  My Private Collection #1       29
Audobons Mammals, Multimedia   29  My Private Collection #2       39
Authorware Star /MPC           39  National Geo. Mammals /MM *B   29
Band-In-A-Box, MIDI (Diskette) 55  National Parks *B              25
Bare Assets, Quicktime/Win     69  National Parks /MM             39
Barney Bear Goes To School     25  New Kid on the Block           45
Barney Bear Goes To Space      25  New Wave Hookers II  PC/MAC    45
Baseball Cards, Front Row Ed.  39  Newsweek Interactive II        29
Basic Electronic CookBook      59  Night Owl Games Disc           25
Basic Electronic Cookbook *B   29  Night Owl Graphics             29
Battle Chess *B                29  Night Owl v10 Shareware        25
Beauty & The Beast             39  Night Owl v11 Shareware        29
Beauty & The Beast *B          25  Night Owl Windows Shareware    25
Berlitz Think&Talk Eng To Fren119  NightWatch Interactive PC/MAC  49
Berlitz Think&Talk Eng To Germ119  Oceans Below                   29
Berlitz Think&Talk Eng To Ital119  Orchid CDS-3110 2xspd CD-ROM  259
Berlitz Think&Talk Eng To Span119  Orchid SoundWave 32 Sound Card239
Best of MicroProse  MAC/DOS    29  OS/2 For Windows CD-ROM        45
Best Of Vivid (In Motion)      49  Pacific Islands                39
Betrayal Adult Movie Win/MAC   49  Paradise Club Interactive      59
Bible Lands, Bible Stories     39  Parallel MIDI Int. w/Win Drv   95
Bible Library                  39  PC Game Room /Shareware Games  25
Blue Force (Accolade)          49  PC Karaoke (OEM version)       25
Boom Box                       29  PC Karaoke /Full Retail        65
Bureau World Fact Book DOS/MAC 29  PC-Pix #1                      39
Business Master                20  PC-Pix #2                      39
Capstone Casino Collection     19  PC-SIG #12                     25
Capstone Kids Collection /Box  19  Pc-Sig World of Games          20
Carmen San Diego Deluxe *B     29  Pc-Sig World of Windows        20
Carmen San Diego Deluxe /Box   59  Peter & The Wolf *B            29
Case Of The Cautious Condor    39  Peter & The Wolf /MPC          39
Cat&Mouse Adult Movie Win/MAC  49  Phone Sex                      29
CD Deluxe Pack MPC             29  PhoneDisc USA: Business /Box   59
CD Duo II (Mario, World Atlas) 29  PhoneDisc USA: Residental /Box 65
CD Powerbox Shareware v2.0     25  Physical Therapy               29
Chess Maniac 5 billion and 1   45  PianoWorks #1 /DOS (Diskette)  95
ChessMaster 3000, Multimedia   29  PianoWorks #2 /DOS (Diskette)  95
CIA Fact Book / Shareware      15  Pixel Perfect Graphics         29
Clinton: Portrait of Victory   19  Playing With Lang: English  *B 39
Clip Master Pro (Softkey)      29  Playing With Lang: French   *B 39
Clipart Galore                 29  Playing With Lang: German   *B 39
Clipart Heaven                 29  Playing With Lang: Japanese *B 39
ColorMagic Clipart             29  Playing With Lang: Spanish  *B 39
Comanche: Maximum Overkill     69  PorkWare #1                    49
Complete House, CAD/FP Package 29  PorkWare #2                    49
Composer Quest *B              29  Private Pleasures, John Holmes 49
Composer Quest /MPC-Windows    69  Pro Audio Spectrum 16         189
Comptons Golf Guide Haw/Cal MM 39  Pro Audio Studio (Enhanced)   249
Comptons Interactive /Win *B   69  Pro PC TV Plus, VGA/TV Convert229
Comptons MPC Ency. /DOS *B     59  Pro Phone 1993 7-CD Set       119
Comptons MPC Ency. /Win *B     59  ProtoStar, War on the Frontier 49
Conan The Cimmerian            39  Publish It! For Windows *B     49
 
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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 12076
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 02/15/94  9:21p
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Conan The Cimmerian *B         29  Publish-It! v2 *B              29
Corel ArtShow III              39  Publishers Paradise            29
Curse Of Enchantia             35  Putt Putt Goes To The Moon     45
Cyber Audio Bundle /SRS, 1MB  329  Putt Putt Joins The Parade     49
Cyber Audio Bundle, 1MB ROM   269  Putt-Putt Fun Pack             39
Cyber Audio Bundle,Texel CDROM639  Q&A Database v4.0 *B           39
Cyber Race                     49  Quicken for Windows: Deluxe    75
Cyber Sound Plus /SRS, 512 ROM289  QuickToons: Cartoons For MPC   39
Cyber Sound Plus, 512k ROM    229  Rebel Assault CD               49
Dark Sun, Shattered Lands      59  ReelMagic MPEG, Video & Audio 429
Day Of The Tenacle/Maniac      49  Return To The Moon             39
Debbie Does Dallas             49  Return To Zork                 49
Deep Throat, The Movie         49  Return To Zork *B              32
Dictionary, Living World *B    39  Revel European Racers          35
Digital Dancing  PC/MAC        49  RingWorld Revenge of Patriarch 45
Digital Dreams                 39  Roger Eberts Home Movies *B    39
Dinosaur Adventure             49  Roland RAP-10 Sound Producer  519
Dinosaur Adventure *B          29  Roland SC-7 Ext. Sound Module 349
Dinosaurs! Encyclopedia        59  Roland SCC1-B Sound Producer  399
Dinosaurs! Encyclopedia *B     29  ROMaterial                     25
Dirty Talk /PC Movie           49  ROMaterial *B                  15
Disk Caddies                    5  Rotor / Air Ball / Time Bandit 19
Dr Games                       19  Sante Healthy Living, Cookbook 45
Dr Music                       19  Scary Poems For Rotten Kids    25
Dr Shareware                   19  SCSI-II CR533-B CD-ROM, No int319
Dr Windows                     19  Secret Of Monkey Island *B     29
Dr. Book Of Home Remedies      35  Secret Weapons Of The Lufwaffe 29
Dr. Book of Home Remedies *B   19  Secrets of Executive Success   35
Dracula Unleashed CD           55  Seedy ROM Movie #1             49
Dream Team: Advanced Spelling  29  SeedyRom Seventh Heaven        39
Dream Team: Alphabet Blocks    29  Seymore Butts Adventure /PC    49
Dream Team: Basic Spelling     29  Shareware Avalanche            15
Dream Team: Beginning Reading  29  Shareware Gold                 19
Dream Team: Early Math         29  Shareware Studio #3            19
Dream Team: Kids Typing        29  Sherlock Holmes Con. Det. II   39
Dune, versions 1/2             59  Sherlock Holmes Con. Det. III  55
EcoQuest, Environment Game     49  Sherlock Holmes Consult Detect 29
EcoQuest, Environment Game *B  29  Sherlock Holmes, Comp. Works   19
Education Master               20  Sing-a-Long Windows (Diskette) 39
Electronic Home Library        29  Sleeping Beauties Adult Movie  59
Eric The Unready               45  Sleeping Beauty /MM Story *B   19
Erotic Encounters #1           39  Sleeping Beauty /MM Storybook  29
Erotic Encounters #2           49  So Much MODEM MADNESS          25
Ext. Panasonic AT 562 CD-ROM  319  So Much SCREENware             29
Eye of The Beholder III *B     29  So Much Shareware /2           15
Eye Of The Beholder Trilogy    59  So Much Shareware /3           25
F-15 Strike Eagle III  *B      29  So Much SPACE                  29
F117A/F15 w/Scenario's         49  Software Jukebox, 3 Games      39
Family Choice /DOS *B          29  Software Jukebox, 3 Games *B   25
Family Circus, on Vacation MPC 35  Software Vault #2              19
Family Circus, Our House       45  Something Wicked Movie Win/MAC 49
Family Doctor                  39  Something Wicked Photo CD      49
Family Education Collection *B 29  Sony 31A Drive & Card         169
Fantazia Fonts & Sounds w/book 29  Sony CD-ROM 31-A/3 2x Speed   229
Fatty Bear's Birthday Surprise 45  Sound Effects Library          19
Fatty Bears Fun Pack           29  Sound Galaxy BX II Sound Card  69
FontMaster #2                  29  Sound Galaxy Pro NX-16        159
Fonts for the Professional v1  39  Sound Leader Pro               89
Fractal Ecstasy /MM            39  SoundBlaster 16 ASP MultiCD   229
Free Windows/OS2 Demos Disc     0  SoundBlaster 16 ASP SCSI      249
Future Wars                    49  SoundBlaster Compatible Card   59
Game Master                    20  Southern Beauties              39
GamePAK Deluxe (Capstone)      29  Space Adventure                59
GamePak II                     29  Space Adventure *B             29
Geekwad Games of the Galaxy    25  Space Quest IV                 49
Giffy Gold, California Girls   39  Space Quest IV *B              25
GigaByte Gold                  29  Space Shuttle                  25
Girls Of Vivid v1 (Stills)     39  Spirit Of Excalibur            29
Girls Of Vivid v2 (Stills)     39  Sports Best *B                 29
Girls, Girls, Girls, Girls     29  Sports Illustrated Almanac     49
Global Explorer /Win           95  Sports Illustrated Almanac *B  29
Gobliins 1                     39  Spyr Mouse Pads                 3
Gobliins 2                     39  Star Trek 25th Anniversary     59
Golden Immortal                25  Star Wars Chess *B             25
Goldilocks, 3 Bears: English   29  STAREware                      35
Goldilocks, 3 Bears: French    29  Stellar 7 *B                   25
Goldilocks, 3 Bears: Spanish   29  Storm #2                       29
Govt Giveaway for Entrepreneur 49  Storm #3, Adam & Eve Portfolio 39
Grade Builder A+               45  Street Atlas USA               95
Graphics Animation Festival    29  Tempra Access Imaging Software 25 
 
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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 12077
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 02/15/94  9:21p
Subj: GREATEST CDROM PRICES 3/3               Refer: NONE
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Great Cities Of The World #1   29  Terminator 2, Chess Wars       39
Great Cities Of The World #2   29  Tetris Gold                    39
Great Cities Of The World1/Win 29  The 7th Guest                  49
Great Cities Of The World2/Win 29  The Barlow Affair: Teri Weigle 49
Greatest Childrens Stories     39  The Book Of Lists #3 /DOS *B   29
Groliers Encyc v6  DOS/MM *B   49  The Book Of Lists #3 MPC/MAC   35
Groliers Encyc v6 MPC/Win *B   49  The Dagger Of Amon Ra          49
Guinness Records /DOS *B       39  The Dagger Of Amon Ra *B       29
Guinness Records 93 /Win *B    29  The Devil in Miss Jones        49
GunShip 2000 w/Scenarios       45  The Grammy Awards              49
GunShip 2000 w/Scenerio's *B   29  The Grammy Awards *B           29
Guy Spy                        35  The Holy Bible, Christian SW   20
Halo Desktop Imager            25  The Maddams Family Movie       49
Hard Days Night - The Beatles  35  The Oregon Trail               49
Hell Cab /MPC                  59  The Prescription Pill Book CD  39
Hidden Obsessions /PC Movie    49  The Tortoise and the Hare      45
High Volume Nudes PC/MAC/Photo 39  The World Of Flight            29
Hobby Corner (Nature) vol #1   35  The World Of Trains            29
Hot Hunks, Male Image Fantasy  49  Things Change, My First Time   49
Humans                         29  Time Magazine: Desert Storm    39
Icons, Wallpaper & More        29  Timetable Art/Entertainment *B 29
Inca                           45  Timetable, History/Science *B  29
Indiana Jones,Fate Of Atlantis 49  TJ Finds a Friend              29
Inferno: Starring Teri Weigle  49  Tornado Flight Combat *B       29
InfoCom Lost Treasures #1      45  Total Baseball '93 DOS/MAC *B  29
InfoCom Lost Treasures #2      36  Total Baseball /Box            49
Int. Panasonic AT 562 CD-ROM  239  Total Fantasty                 29
Interactive Adult Sampler '93  15  Traci Lords I Love You! MPC/MA 39
Interactive Storytime #1 *B    29  Turtle Beach Maui Wavetable   179
Interactive Storytime #2 *B    29  Turtle Beach Multisound Card  579
Interactive Storytime #3 *B    29  U.S. Atlas for Windows         25
Interplay 10 Year Anthology    55  U.S. History                   29
Its a Bird Life WIN/MAC        39  U.S./World Atlas for Win *B    39
Jazz History /MM               55  UFO For Windows                45
Jazz History /MM *B            29  Ultima I..IV Series /Retail    59
Jones In The Fast Lane *B      29  Ultima Underworld I & II       59
Journeyman Project             49  Ultimate Shareware #2          25
Just Fonts, 250+ Fonts         25  US Presidents MPC *B           29
Just Grandma & Me /MPC         45  USA Today News                 59
Jutland - Ships Of Steel       49  USA Today News *B              29
Kathy Smiths Fat Burning Syst. 55  USA Tour w/Geography Game      39
Kawai FS-750 MIDI Keyboard    295  VGA Spectrum #2                20
Key Map for Windows (Softkey)  29  Video Blaster (Creative Labs) 349
Keyfonts Pro (Softkey) Win/MAC 29  Video Cube Space Game  /MPC    49
Kids Works 2                   39  Video Spigot (Creative Labs)  419
Kids Zoo                       55  Virtual Reality Starter Kit #1 49
Kings James Bible  /Box        25  Visual Fantasies               29
Kings Quest V *B               29  VocabuLearn French             49
Kings Quest VI                 55  VocabuLearn Spanish            49
Kings Quest VI *Upgrade        35  Wacky Funsters (Accolade)      29
Kodak Photo Access CD          20  Walnut Creek "C" Source Code   25
Labtec CS-180 Stereo Speakers  22  Walnut Creek 'La Coleccion     25
Labtec CS-550 Stereo Speakers  35  Walnut Creek AMINET; Amiga     20
Labyrinth of Time              55  Walnut Creek CICA Windows      20
Languages of the World         39  Walnut Creek Garbo Archive     20
Learn To Speak Eng From Italia 39  Walnut Creek GIFs Galore       24
Learn To Speak Eng From Span   39  Walnut Creek Giga Games        25
Learn To Speak Eng from Span   49  Walnut Creek Info-MAC          29
Learn To Speak Span From Eng.  39  Walnut Creek OS/2 Archive      20
Legend Of Kama Sutra           49  Walnut Creek QRZ! Ham Radio    20
Legend Of Kyrandia             45  Walnut Creek Simtel20          20
Legends Of Porn II  PC/MAC     45  Who Killed Sam Rupert? *B      22
Lifestyle,Rich/Famous Cookbook 35  Who Killed Sam Rupert? /Box    29
Lightning CD Cache, DOS/WIN    69  Windows 1993 Collection        29
LineLink 14.4k Modem          129  Windows 3.1, Recording Session 45
Loom *B                        29  Windows Master                 20
Lord Of The Rings              49  Windows Plus                   25
Lost in Time                   29  Windows Shareware Gold         25
Lovely Ladies II               49  Wing Command/Ultima Underworld 55
Luscious Ladies                39  Wing Commander I Deluxe        35
Lyric Language: French         39  Wing Commander II Deluxe       35
Lyric Language: Spanish        39  Wing Commander/Ultima VI *B    29
MacMillan Dict For Child *B    25  Wing Commander/Ultima VI /Box  39
MacMillan Dict. for Children   49  Wolf Pack                      39
Mad Dog McCree                 39  Women Of Venus                 39
Manhole Game for Kids /Box     35  World Atlas v4 for Windows *B  25
Mantis, 21st Space Fighter *B  29  World Of Ham Radio             39
Mario is Missing Deluxe        29  World Of Shareware 3-CD Set    39
Mavis Beacon Typing /MM        29  Wrath Of The Demon *B          29
Mayo Clinic "The Total Heart"  39  Wrath Of The Demon /Box        39
 
                SPYR INC  -  PO Box 89  -  Erie PA 16512 
 
         MENTION THIS ADD ON NETMAIL TO RECEIVE ABOVE PRICES
 
     Shipping: Add $3 for UPS Ground on any order.  COD, Add $4.50 
     Terms: VISA/MC/AMEX/Check/MO/COD.  Most Orders Ship same day.   
   No VISA/MC accepted outside US.  Must state age 21+ for adult cds. 
   Dealers: We're one of the largest suppliers around, call 4 prices.
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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 12078
  To: JOHN DUIJS                               Date: 02/15/94  9:28p
Subj: CDROM DISK ORDER                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

John,
 
I regret that we are unable to process your order at this time.
International credit cards cannot be processed by us, so the best way to
do business would be for you to send a money order in US Funds for the
price of the cdrom disks you want plus shipping and handling.  If you
want that adult title (hot hunks), call for the shipping price as the
only shipper that can go international with adult cds for us is Federal
Express.  Sorry for any inconvenience.
 
SPYR INC 
PO Box 89 
Erie PA 16512 
(814)864-4666 Voice 
(814)864-3993 fax

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 12079
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94  7:22p
Subj: C/C++ Shareware CDROM, Feb'94           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the 8th edition of
its C/C++ CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The February 1994 CD-ROM has
1292 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 145,000 record PC products database. Voice:+1(301)924-3594,
Fax:+1(301)963-2708.
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From: LAWRENCE MINTZ                         Number: 12080
  To: TED KIDD                                 Date: 02/16/94  6:49a
Subj: OS/2 2.1 CD-ROM Edition                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > The only thing I said was that you could get OS/2 2.1
 > Upgrade for $80.  I didn't even know that there was a
 > Windows version out.  BTW, I did call IBM and asked
 > about the Windows version and it WAS NOT a full blown
 > version.  Shows what you know...

The OS/2 for Windows version contains everything the full version did with the
*one* exception of a copy of the Windows code which IBM would have to pay a
royalty to MicroSoft in order to include.  Instead, it has code to link to your
*existing* copy of Windows (assuming you already *have* a copy of Windows.) 
Other than that, there is *not supposed* to be any differences between the OS/2
for Windows and full OS/2.

Larry

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From: MIKE TETREAULT                         Number: 12081
  To: JOHN KING                                Date: 02/15/94 10:24p
Subj: Re: HACKER CD-ROM's                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

In a msg of <02/13/94 18:45>, John King wrote to All:

 JK>   Dose anyone know of any REAL Hacker cd's.  I mean viruses in
 JK> zip formed,how to hack BBS, how not to be hacked, how do what you
 JK> want to computers, servers, bbs, ect.

      I've got a good one. I could even throw in my CD of all Visa and
Mastercard numbers, the 12/93 edition, in with it too...

                                                                Mike

Internet: mtetreau@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 12082
  To: ROBERT MOORE                             Date: 02/12/94 10:25p
Subj: Top Drawer Released!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RM>I am interested in your new Top Drawer CD.  I already have Night Owl 
  >10, Software Vault Gold and Pier 3.  How many dupes could I expect to 
  >be  on Top Drawer? 
 
I ran the duplicate analyzer on those discs, and here are the results. 
The first number is the number of duplicate files, and the second number 
is the percentage of the disc that is duplicated. 
 
 
               TD            PR3            NO10           SVG 
 
TD            0/0         1274/28.02%     622/12.19%    1022/16.62% 
 
PR3        1274/30.63%       0/0           15/.29%        11/.17% 
 
NO10        622/14.95       15/.32          0/0         1159/18.85% 
 
SVG        1022/24.57%      11/.24       1159/22.72%       0/0 
 
 
Let me know if you have any questions or would like to order Top Drawer 
for $19. 
                                                        Jim... 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Orders, File Lists, Catalogs 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 12083
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94  4:09p
Subj: Top Drawer Shareware                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Top Drawer has been released $19.00.  I have been working with the file 
lists, accumulating stats.  I am very pleased with the file lists.  The 
producers didn't hold back here!  Every file has a very complete 
description, and there is a file_id.diz in every archive. 
 
The following is a list of each file area and its contents: 
 
1-Applications                        has    63 files in  15997193 bytes 
2-Banner/Label Programs & Forms       has    25 files in   3515446 bytes 
3-Business Accounting & Finance       has   104 files in  25399144 bytes 
4-Benchmarks/Virus/Diagnostics Aids   has    63 files in   7320366 bytes 
5-Batch/Boot/Event Utilities          has    26 files in   1595654 bytes 
6-C.A.D. & C.A.M.                     has   103 files in  18077003 bytes 
7-Communications Programs             has    80 files in  12351707 bytes 
8-Comm Protocols & Modem Setups       has    44 files in   3941638 bytes 
9-Compression Programs                has    55 files in   6072341 bytes 
10-DataBase Programs                  has    69 files in  17295731 bytes 
11-Desktop/Desktop Pub/Spreadsheets   has    17 files in   3221633 bytes 
12-DOS Utilities                      has   179 files in  14074060 bytes 
13-GAMES and Educational Programs     has   365 files in  76315800 bytes 
14-Graphic Programs & Utilities       has    80 files in   9481809 bytes 
15-Graphics/Animations/Raytraced      has    26 files in   5368421 bytes 
16-Ham Radio/Shortwave Listening      has    93 files in  15695128 bytes 
17-Handicapped Aids & Utilities       has    12 files in   1409230 bytes 
18-Home & Personal Computing & Humor  has   108 files in  17143570 bytes 
19-Home Recipes / Health / Medicine   has    30 files in   4198633 bytes 
20-LANs/Multitask/Nets/AltOperatingSy has    77 files in  14132417 bytes 
21-Menu Programs & Shells             has    37 files in   5179932 bytes 
22-OffLine Mail Readers               has    51 files in   8905739 bytes 
23-OS/2(tm) Files / Programs          has   233 files in  34110248 bytes 
24-Patches & UnProtects               has    74 files in   9560616 bytes 
25-Printer Helps / Drivers /Utilities has    61 files in   7648704 bytes 
26-Speaker & SB & AdLib & Midi Utils  has    12 files in   2211023 bytes 
27-Religion & Genealogy Programs      has   101 files in  12080974 bytes 
28-WordProcessing & Text Editors      has    67 files in   7900261 bytes 
29-Win Communications                 has    26 files in   5191920 bytes 
30-Win Desktop / Editors / Fonts      has    87 files in  12752918 bytes 
31-Win Drivers                        has    14 files in   3920702 bytes 
32-Win Games / Sound Utilities        has    72 files in  10276459 bytes 
33-Win Home & Personal                has    79 files in  16611588 bytes 
34-Win Icons BMP's & Screen Apps      has    21 files in   5012270 bytes 
35-Windows NT(tm)                     has    18 files in   2080386 bytes 
36-Win Utilities and Help files       has   184 files in  26012861 bytes 
37-Windows(tm) Demo                   has    14 files in   6026718 bytes 
38-Outerware(tm) - Original Images    has   121 files in  34629332 bytes 
39-Feature Authors and Unique Release has    35 files in  10364486 bytes 
40-BBS Door Programs                  has   309 files in  46570628 bytes 
41-BBS Utilities                      has   507 files in  35141889 bytes 
42-BBS Software Packages              has    57 files in  21106603 bytes 
43-RIP Icons/Buttons/Screens/Utilitie has    91 files in   5721549 bytes 
44-PCBoard(tm) [PPE] BBS Extensions   has   185 files in   2863025 bytes 
45-BBS Network Info Pak & Starter Kit has    71 files in   1849664 bytes 
 
 
Now for the file dates.  Please note that the handful of files dated 
before 1993 are programs such as Wildcat test drive, which simply has 
not been updated since then. The files were carefully hand picked. 
 
 
File stats for 1992 and 1993: 
 
92  File   %    Apx 'K'    %        93  File   %    Apx 'K'    % 
==  ==== =====  ======== =====      ==  ==== =====  ======== ===== 
       6  0.1%     2,380  0.4%         3,968 95.1%   558,536 91.6% 
    ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== ===== 
 
File stats for 1994: 
 
94  File   %    Apx 'K'    % 
==  ==== =====  ======== ===== 
     199  4.8%    49,669  8.0% 
    ==== =====  ======== ===== 
 
----  Total Files:  4,174    Total Approx 'K' Bytes:   609,523  ---- 
 
 
Well, these are the facts. It's a great disc, and you can preview it 
online the Computer Works BBS.  The file list is available for download 
as TOPDRWR.ZIP. We are accepting online orders using Visa/Mastercard & 
COD. 
 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 12084
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94  4:18p
Subj: Shareware CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                     Computer Works CD-Rom Sales 
                          Shareware Titles 
 
Big Sky Rom             $26        Shareware Explorer 4 CD's       $46 
CICA Microsoft Windows  $14        Shareware Extravaganza 4 CD's   $40 
Cream of the Crop II    $29        Shareware Online 2              $24 
GameWare Collection     $22        Shareware Overload              $12 
Giga Games              $18        Shareware Studio 2              $16 
Hacker Chronicles       $28        So Much Modem Madness           $29 
Hamware 1993            $27        So Much Shareware 3             $24 
Hobbes OS/2 - Oct 1993  $14        Software Vault Gold             $25 
Night Owl 11            $30        Software Vault Games            $24 
OS/2 Box                $26        Software Vault Windows          $24 
Pier 2                  $25        Tech Arsenal                    $24 
Pier 3                  $30        Top Drawer  (New!)              $19 
 
Mastercard & Visa accepted.  Orders may be placed online our BBS 24 
hours per day or called in on our voice line.  File lists for most 
popular discs are available for download. 
 
Computer Works          BBS    (205) 671-0092 
CD-Rom Sales            Voice  (205) 793-4481 
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From: MIKE STEFFEN                           Number: 12085
  To: TROY ROTH                                Date: 02/16/94  9:56p
Subj: CD's Trade/Sell                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

->   WW II Combat simulator with 4 tour of duty extensions
-> 2. "The Animals (San Diego Zoo)"      $27.00
->   Take a tour of the San Diego Zoo with full colored motion
->   pictures and sounds.  Windows Version
I'm interested in The Animals CD..  I've got "Greatest Air Battles" CD (flight
simulators?!)...or  Battle Chess
Interested?
Mike

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 12086
  To: ROD JESSEN                               Date: 02/16/94  4:41p
Subj: Night owl 10 -yet another               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RJ>Got a report from a caller who downloaded ACPRO110.ZIP from the Night
RJ>Owl 10 CD rom. She states she unzipped it and it trashed her root
RJ>directory and all the files. The file seems to pass a virus scan by
RJ>Mcafee, but this is yet another instance of a file from NO 10 being bad.

That is *NOT* a logical conclusion!  This disk has been in circulation for a
very long time now, and has been exposed to MANY users through BBSs, clubs, and
private users.  This is the first comment about this file in all of that
exposure.  It is an accounting package, made in Switzerland, and bearing the
-AV mark of a reputable source.  None of this means it is okay, but it
certainly does not lead to the same conclusion which you have drawn.

It is rare for such immediate action to be the result of anything you might
find with a garbage-variety scanner of the Norton or McAfee sort. It is more
likely the work of a Trojan, if indeed it is not accidental in nature.  She
needs to inspect her floppy collection after she gets things back together,
using a few different, and better, utilities. When she does, she may find she
has troubles from other than ACPRO.

McAfee cannot find Trojan programs or bombs.  You would have to use one of the
heuristic programs, as I just did moments ago.  I used both ThunderByte
Anti-Virus and F-PROT, both of which are excellant in detecting Trojans;
neither found anything of any sort wrong with a complete burst of the files in
ACPRO110.ZIP.  Just for giggles, I also used McAfee #111 on this load, with
similar negative results.  For my own safety, I used my own LHA and LIST
programs; I closely looked at both of those which were bundled, and they appear
legit.  They are older versions than my own, so would not "compare."

I don't doubt that the party had a crash of some sort, but I'd not be so quick
as to blame THAT particular file.  She might have had a bomb in her system for
a very long time, waiting for her to do some particular thing, or the clock to
come around, or the calendar, or who-knows-what.

RJ>don't have the inclination to see if I can recreate my caller's problem

I don't blame you.  I didn't either.  But I did use a variety of virus- and
trojan-detection programs on it, and also looked thru the executables quickly,
looking for certain codes, all without finding anything untoward.  I'm not at
all perfect, nor am I any kind of authority.  But I gave it my best shot.  Had
you done the same, I don't think you'd have been so quick to condemn this disk.
 It has enough trouble with the two legitimate viruses it carries; it doesn't
need unfounded rumors, too.

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

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From: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                      Number: 12087
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/16/94  5:03a
Subj: cd's trade/sell                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


Have the following cd's to trade or sell for your cd's. adult or regular cd's;

Star Wars Chess  $27.00

Moving fantasies (Adult MOvies)   $29.00

Visual Fantasies  Adult cd.   $27.00

Physical Therapy  Adult gifs   $27.00

Cafe   Shearware   $19.00

Our Solar System; Nasa Photos  Gifs etc.   $19.00


Will consider any reasonable trade or cash offer for the above cd's. Postage
is to be  paid by each.


                         -=Frank=-

                        302-674-4537

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 12088
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 02/16/94  4:34p
Subj: Re: BODACIOUS BEAUTIES                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 >             More Than 85 Well Known BODACIOUS BEAUTIES
 >               Over 2,000 Hi-Res GIFs at 1024x768x256
 >             Over 650 Megabytes (including thumbnails)
 >                      From Original 35mm Slides
 >                          New GUI Interface


David,
How many of the 85 well known are Porno Stars, I read in a message there a
quite a few of them. I missed Bod's review of your disk.

                               Mike Harris

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 12089
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/16/94  5:29p
Subj: Photo cd                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What do I need to run to be able to use my photo cd drive's ability, I know
there are photo cd's out but do I need drivers or something and what can I
expect to be able to do with the photos once I'm viewing them?

My drive is a Mitsumi Double Speed MPC2. Thanks.

                               Mike Harris

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12090
  To: RUDY BORJON                              Date: 02/15/94  2:18p
Subj: HAM RADIO CD..                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Looking for a strictly Ham Radio oriented cd's...new of course...

 QRZ Ham Radio (Walnut Creek), HammCall (Buckmaster), and Ham Radio #3
(Chestnut).

 I'd be real carefull about the Amsoft one - I have heard rumours that they may
be in for a major piracy lawsuit.


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From: BILL WOOD                              Number: 12091
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/16/94  2:45p
Subj: Cd's for TRADE OR SELL                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN> I have the newly released Bodacious Beauties (Feb 94) to trade for 
RN> RebelAssult (not the OEM version). Need the manual and reg card.  Let 
RN> meknow.


Well I don't have the REG card, but I have the manual and everything else, and
it's not a OEM.  But I am still waiting to see if I can get a external CD, but
will keep you in mind. Bill
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From: TOM COTTON                             Number: 12092
  To: JOHN PALMER                              Date: 02/16/94  4:37p
Subj: Genealogy CD's Wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will get the adress and phone numbers and forward them to you ASAP.  J & D
Distributings and GRS both rent their CDs on a monthly basis.  They have their
good points and their bad points.  You definitely want to rent a couple first
and see if they are what you want. TC
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From: JOHN OTTENHOFF                         Number: 12093
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/16/94  7:47p
Subj: great Amiga computer 4 sale!            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Computer system for Sale!
 
 
Amiga 500 for sale with
 
* ECS chipset
* 1 megabyte of chip ram
* 2.05 ROMS, 2.1 Workbench installed (original 1.3 ROMS included)
* Transparent Keyboard "skin" spill/dust protector
* Supra 500XP with
     - 2 Megabytes Fast ram
     - 120 MB Quantum Hard disk
* SupraDrive external 3.25 in floppy drive with
     - Auto virus protection
     - On/Off switch
     - Expansion port to connect more drives
* Commodore 1084S stereo monitor with
* 25+ 3.25 inch 880K floppy disks
* Kraft Trackball/Joystick (switchable) with dustcover 
* Amiga Joyboard foot joystick
* Wico ergonomic joystick
* Archer "Flight" Joystick with suction pads
* 3M MD40 40MB tape backup
* Supra 2400 baud modem
* A520 video adaptor (allows videotaping of amiga) with 
     - VCR dubbing cables
     - Signal gain adjuster
* DSS8 sound digitizer
* A-Talk III modem terminal software
* GP Fax software
* Tetris by Spectrum Holobyte 
* Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego? by Broderbund
* Pirates! by Microprose
* Visionary Adventure/Role Playing Game Creater by Oxxi
     - Visionary Programmer's Handbook with Software
* Textcraft Plus by Amiga
* Space 1889 by Paragon
* Bard's Tale I by Interplay/EA
* Bard's Tale II by Interplay/EA
* Sinbad the Sailor by Cinemaware
* Spirit of Excalibur by Virgin
* Pool Of Radiance by SSI
* Dungeon Master by FTL with cluebook
* DM II: Chaos Strikes Back by FTL with cluebook
* Full Metal Planet by Draconian
* Might And Magic II by New World Computing
* UMS II by Microplay
* Deuteros by Activision
* adult GIFS, limited only by free disk space on request
* 2+MB of fantasy and art hams and iffs
* 2+MB of sound samples
* A64 Commodore 64 emulator software
* free installation
* free tutorial
* lots of other software and extras
 
$950/OBO.  The first offer of $950 takes it all.
 
This is a beautiful system that I'm being forced to part with.
If you can give it a good home, please call 
916-366-3339 and ask for John if you have any offers or questions.


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From: TOM BOWERMAN                           Number: 12094
  To: ALAN EVANS                               Date: 02/15/94  6:19a
Subj: SHAREWARE ONLINE #3 PREOR               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> This new disc will contain over 600 MEGS of new software.  NO
-> PROGRAMS INCLUDED ON THIS VERSION WILL BE OLDER THAN 08-01-1994! No
-> other shareware CD can make that claim.  Over 600 MEGS of fresh
-> files.  Many programs come directly from the author.

-> Your complete satisfaction is GUARANTEED with ShareWare OnLine #3.
-> Approximate ship date is 03-01-94 or sooner.

I don't see how you will ever do that but good luck.
Tom

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From: VIC HLUSHAK                            Number: 12095
  To: RON CANNON                               Date: 02/15/94  9:29a
Subj: CD-ROM MAGAZINE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On (13 Feb 94) Ron Cannon wrote to Vic Hlushak...

 RC> I have purchased 3 Nautilus CD'S  They are very good and filled with
 RC> lots of interesting multi-media stuff.  I bought a mini-subscription
 RC> that includes 2 cd's at Comp-USA.  They ran about $25.00 for them.
 RC> I think it is about $135.00 for a whole year and you get a cd every

Thanks for the note,  Mine havent come in yet.  I might have to phone,
it is quite overdue!

TTYL


... ..Vic Hlushak..Fort McMurray..Alberta..Canada

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From: JEFF NEWMAN                            Number: 12096
  To: JERRY ZELLER                             Date: 02/16/94 12:33a
Subj: Re: cd's 4-sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 JZ> Jeff - if your other deal doesn't work out, I'll offer $15
 JZ> shipped for the mayo cd.  Jerry

 Jerry, thank you for your offer. This CD is sold.

 ... Don't beat your eggs...Whip them...

-Jeff NOPCCCC

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 12097
  To: ARNOLD SMITH                             Date: 02/16/94 12:46a
Subj: Re: NIGHT OWL 11                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 7 Feb 94 01:28pm, Arnold Smith wrote to Boris Osadciw:

BO>>            N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E

BO>>* Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous
BO>>Versions
BO>>* All Zipped Files      * New Viewer     * 60% Files Released
BO>>last 90 days
BO>>"Night Owl 11. "  offer's over 5,000 all new files and supports
BO>>for areas
BO>>such as Windows, OS/2, Games, Fonts, Ham Radio, Lan, Business and
BO>>more !
BO>>           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $26.00
BO>>   Best Of The Best - Night Owl 11. + Cream Of The Crop II -
BO>>$45.00

BO>>ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX
BO>>216-225-6759

BO>>Boris Osadciw

BO>>... Be Young! Have Fun! Use Silver Xpress!

>>    I heard about some viruse on Night Owl 11, I had Night owl 10 
>>    and I like it whats up with the Night owl 11? Have you heard 
>>    this? /s

So far, NO virus's have been found on version 11.

What your hearing is "wishful thinking out load".

If we can be of any further help, give us a call at the number above and
we'll be glad to help you further.



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 12098
  To: RUDY BORJON                              Date: 02/16/94 12:46a
Subj: Re: Qrz                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 13 Feb 94 07:56am, Rudy Borjon wrote to All:

>>     Looking for Radio Amateur related cd-rom "QRZ". Anyone know 
>>     who sells it, and how much, maybe a "phone" number to call? 
>>     THanks ===

Rudy, from what we've been told by a number of our customers, a cd called
"Ham & Scanners" is a much better disk than "QRZ". It offers more
more information as well as newer programs than does "QRZ".

If your interested, we carry both in stock and their priced at
"QRZ" - $15.  and "Ham & Scanners" - $13.

Give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to assist
you further.



Boris Osadciw

... Be Young! Have Fun! Use Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 12099
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/16/94 12:46a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E

* Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous Versions
* All Zipped Files      * New Viewer     * 60% Files Released last 90 days
"Night Owl 11. "  offer's over 4,500 all new files and supports for areas
such as Windows, OS/2, Games, Fonts, Ham Radio, Lan, Business and more !
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $26.00
   Best Of The Best - Night Owl 11. + Cream Of The Crop II - $45.00

ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 12100
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/16/94 12:46a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

600MB's+, 4700+ files,  BRAND NEW RELEASE - 1993 - 1994  November - January.

Thousands of the most recent shareware programs and resources available from
around the world.  Includes a user friendly Software Vault Librarian that will
help you find and use what you need easily and quickly. (Games. Sounds, Sound
Blaster & MIDI, Graphics, MultiMedia, Word Processing, Fonts & Clip Art,
Pictures & GIFs, Spreadsheets, Educational, Database, Ham Radio Utilities, LAN
Utilities, BBS Utilities, and many more.)
                    SOFTWARE VAULT PLATINUM - $18.00
    ORDERS ONLY!! 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Be Young! Have Fun! Use Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 12101
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/16/94 12:46a
Subj: PIONEER 602X                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

))))))))))))))))))))) A L L  N E W  P I O N E E R  6 0 2 X (((((((((((((((((((
                        Double Speed  -  6 - Disk Changer

  300 ms Average Access Time  -  307 Kbs Data Transfer Rate - 256 KB Buffer
  Multi-Session Support       -  2048/512 Byte Selectable   - SCSI-2
  Complete with Manuals, Audio Cable, Power Cord, Magazine and Software.

   IN STOCK                   PRICE - $845.00                IN STOCK
        MULTIPUL UNIT PURCHASE DISCOUNT - SAME PRICE CASH OR CHARGE
     ORDERS ONLY 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress makes it's motion picture debut as the "The Emailator"!
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From: TROY JOHNSON                           Number: 12102
  To: EDDIE IMPERIAL                           Date: 02/16/94  6:22a
Subj: Cd Trades!                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EI>I AM LOOKING FOR ADULT CD DISK
  >CALLED-HIGH VOLUME NUDES!

EI>I HAVE FOR TRADE BELOW:

EI>1. GIFFY GOLD
  >2. AMATURE MODELS

Ok I will trade you for Giffy Gold.  Give me a call at 702 459 8862

I have so much stareware and Island Girls and a couple others.

Let me Know.

Troy
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From: ERIC FRANCIS                           Number: 12103
  To: AUDIE VICKERS                            Date: 02/14/94  6:40p
Subj: FREELAND,MI                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Audie Vickers to Eric Francis <=-

 EF>I know this is off-topic, but I had to reply to this...I used to be a 
 EF>Freeland (Tittabawassee Township) cop. Small world.

 AV> My brother-in-law is battling the forces of evil (as he puts it) in
 AV> Auburn these days.  What years did you serve?

From 1984-1986. I'd like to chat with you more about this, is there a place
we can take this before we get yelled at by the moderator? 
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 12104
  To: DOUG HUNKELE                             Date: 02/15/94  4:38a
Subj: Re: MAC CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

12 Feb 94  21:37:00, All whispered to Doug Hunkele...
--------------------------------------------------------

DH> I'm looking for a CD of MAC files to load up on a DOS system...anything out
DH>  there on the market...CD needs to be in ISO 9660 format etc....
DH> 
DH> thanks.
 **************************************************************************
 February 1994        Saylor Enterprises   (317) 881-9391
 **************************************************************************

 9000 Sounds...................21.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........22.50
 American Business Phonebk 93..24.00    MVP Game Jamboree.............12.00
 America's Premier Shareware...14.00    Night Owl 10.0................30.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......23.00    Night Owl Games...............18.00


 Color Magic PC/MAC............24.00 



 Dictionaries and Languages....15.00    Pier 3........................25.00
 DR.Games......................15.00    Publishers Paradise Pro.......32.00
 DR.Music......................15.00    Shareware '93.................21.00
 DR.Windows....................15.00    Shareware Explorer 4 Disk.....38.00
 Games 1993....................22.00    Shareware Studio #3...........15.00
 Hackers Chronicles............27.00    So Much Shareware #3..........23.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................15.00    Software Vault Gold...........18.50
 Home and Office Legal Guide...15.00    Tech. Arsenel.................20.00
 House of Games................16.50    Windows 1993..................21.00
 Lan Master....................21.00    Windowware....................15.00
 Monster Media '93.............23.50    Window Master.................20.00
** All disk do not include shipping.
===========================================================================
                      Special:
 Rebel Assult Delivered to your Door...........$50.00
 Shareware Overload Trio...(3 Disk Set)........$20.00
===========================================================================


       You can FREQ the Newest CD Files list from 1:231/570 by FREQing
                 CD-ROM.TXT or our Adult list is AD.TXT

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 12105
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94  4:39a
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                      S A Y L O R   E N T E R P R I S E S
                                 P.O. Box 2083
                            Indianapolis, IN  46206

                          ( 3 1 7 )   8 8 1 - 9 3 9 1
                SHIPPING AND HANDLING CHARGE IS $5.00 PER ORDER
           PRICING AND AVAILABILITY IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE AT ANY TIME
                  ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
                  ³                                          ³
                  ³   These discs contain ADULT material!    ³
                  ³        FOR SALE TO ADULTS ONLY!          ³
                  ³                                          ³
                  ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ

AMATUER MODELS (X)  - - - $25.00
    Over 500 full colr SVGA images of beautiful women.  650 megs of centerfold
    style layouts.  Photographs by professionals from around the world.  All
    images are in 1024 x 768 x 256 color format and 16.7 million color 24 bit
    TIFF format.  ViewCD CD-ROM viewer for easy viewing.  Automatic
    installation for quick startup.  FILES.BBS description file.

AMOROUS ASIAN GIRLS (XXX) - - - $33.00
     Luscious Asian girls at their playful best captured on full motion video.

BUSTY BABES #2 (XXX)  - - - $30.00
     New copyrighted collection of California Girls.  BBS ready.  "Show Off"
     interface makes this a real joy to run.

COLLEGE GIRLS (XXX)  - - - $35.00
    Easy install with Quicktime for Windows.  Clean cut amateurs "turn on" for
    the cameras.

CONDO CUTIES (XXX)  - - - $36.00
    Staring the "Space Voyeur".  Tour the Condos with this loveable fun loving
    creature as he checks out the Condo Cuties.

DEBBIE DOES DALLAS (XXX)  - - - $34.00
     Take a trip to Dallas with this infamous cheerleader. She will show you
     how to keep score.

DEVIL & MRS. JONES (XXX)  - - - $34.00
     Enjoy the intense drama of the "hereafter" with the lovely Mrs. Jones.

DIGITAL DREAMS (X)  - - - $25.00
     GIF images, adult images.  BBS ready.  660 Megabytes of original images.
     Easy installation.  A real classy disc.

DOORS OF PASSION (XXX)  - - - $38.00
     Interactive adult full motion VIDEOROM that has a surprise behind every
     door.  But, only for consenting adults!

EXTREME DELIGHT (XXX)  - - - $29.00
     Very alluring and provocative adult title.  Sizzles with passion.

GIRLS OF MARDI GRAS (X) - - - $35.00
     Great music and beautifull girls.  Don't miss the party!

L.A. STRIPPERS (X)  - - - $39.00
     Talented artists performing in an L.A. Cabaret to 60's music.
     Professionally and tastefully done.

PHONE SEX (X) - - - $20.00
     500 Megabytes of erotic conversation.  Studio produced in both 8 and 16
     bit stereo.  WAV files for Windows.

PRINCESS OF PERSIA (XXX) - - - $35.00
     Intrigue and danger in a full length movie with stereo sound.  Has an
     enjoyable twist.  Run a scene or the whole movie.  Simple to use.

SOUTHERN BEAUTIES (X)  - - - $29.00
    1,000 High Res GIFs at 1024x768 form original 35 MM slides.  300 Megabytes
    of true 24 bit color.

SWEET DREAMS (X)  - - - $30.00
     Collection of sexy ladies that will give you "Sweet Dreams". Interactive
     options on this slick new interface. BBS ready.

SUPER SMUTWARE (XXX)  - - - $26.00
     640 Megabytes.  1,000 1024x768x256 color images and 2,000 800x600 images.
     100 adult animations.  BBS ready.

WICKED WHISPERS #1 - - - $35.00
    Full movie.  The best in sight and sound.  With a plot that is not hard to
    follow.
WILD WOMEN (XXX)  - - - $26.00
     600 Megabytes of "HOT" adult GIFS.  Easy user interface. BBS ready.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12106
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 02/11/94  3:09p
Subj: $125 SCSI CD-ROM PL                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>>>Toshiba 3101 Internal SCSI drives $125
>> Specs?
>Call Stephanie at 1-20-6472-1634 and ask her to fax the spec sheet.

 No can do - don't have a fax....


 * SLMR 2.1a * I don't like Coffee - Pepsi provides MY caffeene!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12107
  To: DICK WALSH                               Date: 02/11/94  3:16p
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>As we discussed tonight you did finally get the mail in US Snail boy was that
>disgusting   11 days from Toledo to Texas for a letter

 And likely 7-8 of those days just getting OUT of Toledo - the weather up here
lately has been, shall we say "interesting"?

 8-O


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From: JIGER DESAI                            Number: 12108
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/15/94  6:22p
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Will trade: Storm II or III, or Adult Reference Library for Local
> Girls. 
 
        Sorry, sold Local girls. We talked onthe phone about this. Of course my
CD-ROM is broken and I need money for a new M/B I might trade you that Rebel
assult for Bodacious Beauties. Let me ponder in thought. Now is that BB XXX or
X or R. Like is it hard core XXX or just models shouwing their stuff.
 
        What is the Adult referance library? Does show samples of Adult movies
and stuff like that, or just a bunch of gifs and .gl's. I might be interested
interested in that if you concider selling to trading that.
 
                                        ..jig...

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From: JIGER DESAI                            Number: 12109
  To: HAROLD HAYES                             Date: 02/15/94  6:25p
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

>  This is to confirm our phone conversation on Sunday 02-13 7p...
> The check for local girls is on it's way.
> Harold
  
       I mailed Local girls in the mail yesterday. NOW DO you live in West
Virgina right!!!        Because you said West Virgina and I wrote doen
something like "WA" for the state and did'nt think there wa anything like that,
so I remembered West Viegina. 
  
  If I messed it up, which I don't think so, the ZIPCODE should fix it right?
 
                                ..jig....

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From: JIGER DESAI                            Number: 12110
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 02/15/94  6:33p
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> If you like to be in our mailing list ot receive our latest catalog
> and special offers, please call or write to
>  
> GroupWare
> 4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
> Tacoma, WA 98409
> Tel 1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
 
 Could you send me one of your catalogs at
        Jiger Desai             
        3104 Opelika Road
        Phenix city, Al. 36867

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From: JIGER DESAI                            Number: 12111
  To: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                        Date: 02/15/94  6:36p
Subj: ADULT CD'S TRADE/SELL                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Is Visual Fantasies like XXX hard core or or just nude pics.
 
wait, or are they just bunch of .gl's and .dl's

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From: JIGER DESAI                            Number: 12112
  To: RAY KOTARA                               Date: 02/15/94  6:40p
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I'll give ya $25 for souther b shipped.  lemme know if its a deal.  
 
        Sorry, $31 and I'll pay shipping.
 
                                ..jig...

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From: JIGER DESAI                            Number: 12113
  To: JASON CROPPER                            Date: 02/15/94  6:42p
Subj: X-RATED? WHAT'S BEST?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> *** Quoting Jiger Desai to Jason Brothers dated 02-11-94 ***
> >  There is a good one called Southern Beauties. Has about 600 megs of 
> > gifs. There are 400megs of 1024x768x256 and 200megs of 640x480x16mil.
> > Good resolution pictures, I've got it if you want to buy it off of me
> 
> How much?
  
        $31
 
 You can call me 205-298-6585, if you have questions.
Rember you must have a 1meg vedio card for this CD.
 
                                ..jig...

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From: KEVIN BURNS                            Number: 12114
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/15/94  5:59a
Subj: WANT REBEL ASSULT CD                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Randy Neuner to All <=-

 RN> I wish to trade Bodacious Beauties (Adult) for Rebel Assult (NOT the
 RN> OEM version, but the one with manual and reg card).  Bodacious Beauties
 RN> is the newly released disc full of SVGA gifs of well known porno stars.
 RN> A great disc, I might add.

Hi Randy,

I have Rebel Assault with manual and box. Sorry but I recently sent in the
registration card. If still interested let me know.

Thanks,

Kevin Burns


... One thing about pain:  it proves you're alive.
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From: BRIAN WOODBURY                         Number: 12115
  To: LYLE HEWITT                              Date: 02/15/94  3:20p
Subj: Used CD for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I can go $24 US. If that's okay let me know!

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 12116
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 02/16/94 11:54a
Subj: W.O.W.                                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Lee:

Been lookin' for W.O.W. to come out. Will it be soon or has there been a delay?
Hope all is well with you and LDI. Ciao!

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From: MARK SPARLING                          Number: 12117
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/16/94  8:33a
Subj: Best CD's?                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for what the experts call the best Adult CD's around.

Looking for Hardcore X, some R okay, NO MALE HOMOSEXUALITY, 600+ megs,
little or no BBS advertisement.  Group main interest, not HUGE breasts.

Any opinions?

Mark


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From: PETE DINNELLA                          Number: 12118
  To: CLINT SAVAGE                             Date: 02/16/94  8:05a
Subj: Random House                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CS*>Thanks chuck, I was looking for the disk only, but may have to go for the b
CS*>also. Mailorder has it for $70.  Thanks!

EMFBI but since I'm late to this string, are you talking about the
Random House Encyclopedia an disk?  If you are I have it and am will to
part with it.  All original disks and book.  Let me know if this is what
you are looking for 'cuz I can sure beat $70 for you! (I paid $79.95).
If I'm totally off topic here....Sorry! =)

                                ---===>PETE<===---
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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 12119
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/16/94 10:06a
Subj: Hitachi 3600's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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From: MARK MONTMINY                          Number: 12120
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/16/94  7:01p
Subj: Re: CD'S FOR SALE                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Text preceded by RN> was written by Randy Neuner on 13 Feb 94  01:53:00.

 RN> Note: Bodacious Beauties is only 1 week old and just released.

Would you be willing to trade for any of:

Busty Babes I (v1R2), 7th Heaven, Nix Pix Hot Pix I/V

 -- "Of course power tools and alcohol don't mix.  Everyone knows power
tools aren't soluble in alcohol ..."
		-- Crazy Nigel

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From: TRACY MICKLEY                          Number: 12121
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/16/94 10:09p
Subj: 6 PACK CADDY WANTED                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I am looking for a caddy for my Pioneer DRM-600-A. If your selling them, send
me a netmail for my fastest reply. If you know where to find such a beastie,
let me know here. Thanks for any help.

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From: ROBERT L. MYERS 1                      Number: 12122
  To: JOHN COOK                                Date: 02/16/94  9:44a
Subj: Re: !FREE ADULT CD CATALOG!             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

John Could You Send me A Catolog

Robert Myers
6909 Willaims Lk. Rd.
Waterford, Mich 48329

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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 12123
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 02/15/94  7:36p
Subj: King's quest vi                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Then it happened......DKHi!
DK I just wanted to let you know I received the CD today(2/8). You should 
b
DKreceiving your's shortly,let me know...

  Yeah, I just got back off vacation (2/16) and it was here waiting. 
Thanks a bunch!
                          Mike

Mike
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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 12124
  To: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                        Date: 02/17/94  6:23p
Subj: Re: Adult Cd's Trade\sell               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



                 -|-  Quoting Frank Cirillo Jr. to All  -|-

 FCJ> Have the following adult cd's to trade for other adult or regular
    > cd's. Each  to pay own postage cost on trades. I will pay postage
    > on cd's sold.

 FCJ> Star Wars Chess.     
 $27.00


Greetings Frank, interested in a trade?  How 'bout Busty Babes II, the
newest release in that series for the above?!?  Please let me know if
interested, thanks.

,\\ark 
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From: TROY ROTH                              Number: 12125
  To: MIKE STEFFEN                             Date: 02/17/94  6:40p
Subj: CD's Trade/Sell                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MS>I'm interested in The Animals CD..  I've got "Greatest Air
MS>Battles" CD (flight
MS>simulators?!)...or  Battle Chess
MS>Interested?

Mike, I already have a chess CD <G>.  But, I've never heard of Greatest Air
Battles.  Thanks for the reply.  If you live close to me, maybe you can try
out the animals CD anyway.  Reply if interested.

        Troy

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From: JOHN STEVENS                           Number: 12126
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/17/94  8:24a
Subj: PHONEBOOKS???                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        I am looking for a CD with old phonebooks on it (specifically NW OHio)
for research purposes.  I am told that there is a 5 CD set that contains
phonebooks for the entire U.S.  If you have a set from 1989 up to the present
that you would be interested in giving away or selling let me know.  If you do
not have such a set, but know where I might find such information, please let
me that also.
        Thanks, John...

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From: DOUG ROBINSON                          Number: 12127
  To: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                        Date: 02/16/94  7:38p
Subj: TRADE\SELL ADULT CD'S                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hmmm...How would we do this, since you live in Delaware and I live in
California?  Can you send it COD? 

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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 12128
  To: PETE DINNELLA                            Date: 02/17/94 12:03p
Subj: RANDOM HOUSE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Thanks Pete; I finly broke down and ordered the set also. The wife is a book
lover so this add's a 10th or is 12th one to her library.

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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 12129
  To: CHRIS WISE                               Date: 02/15/94  9:40a
Subj: REBEL ASSAULT 4-Sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Yes, I carry the C= Amiga 4000 040 with 6Megs of Ram and a 240 Meg hard drive
for 2425.00.  When C= starts remaking A1200's I will be selling them for $399.
If you are interested in any Amiga items give me a call at (915)673-1911.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 12130
  To: MIKE BRENEMAN                            Date: 02/14/94  9:57a
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Mike Breneman wrote in a message to Terry Blount:

MB> Are your drives double spin, and are they compatable with
MB> soundblaster?  If so, I am interested in purchasing.

They are not double spin. Double spin drives aren't available for $99.  They do
have an audio output that will connect to a SB Pro.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 12131
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/16/94  7:56p
Subj: Thanks!  200 Sold !                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 Thanks to everyone for the response to the $99  Hitachi  3600  cd
 rom drives special.  I've almost sold 200 and  still  have a  few
 left.  I'm still offering 4 drives setup in an external case  for
 $530 (including shipping and c.o.d.) and the 8  drive  setup  for
 $970.  Call 205-824-2552 to get yours.

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From: MIKE BIBEAU                            Number: 12132
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/15/94 11:53p
Subj: MPC2 What is it                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The MPC2 standard is all of the MPC1 standard requirements plus a 486 SX-25 or
faster CPU; 4 meg of ram (8 recommended); 160 meg hard drive or larger; CD-rom
with a sustained data transfer rate of 300 kilobytes per second (without taking
more than 60 % of your CPU time) - The average seek on the CD-rom must be 400
miliseconds or less, it must be XA (a method of storing data on a cd that
allows the near simultaneous playback of audio and graphics) and multi session
(for photo cd's) capable.  A 16 bit sound card capable of 44.1kHz, 22.05kHz,
and 11.05kHz sampling rates in mono and stereo.  And, a VGA adapter and monitor
capable of 640 X 480 pixel resolution in 65,536 color.  

I don't know if that means double speed or not, but if you're wondering about
that issue, just buy a double speed.  I've seen a double speed panasonic that
will run off an IDE hard drive controller for under $200.  I've seen them mail
order around $250.  

Good luck,  I've got a double speed and it with its sound card/controller, have
opened up a whole new world of problems to solve.  With each new CD-rom I buy,
I end up reconfiguring something!  It is fun, so go ahead and enjoy.

Mike


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From: MIKE BIBEAU                            Number: 12133
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/16/94 12:07a
Subj: Double Speed drive wanted               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I saw your search for a CD-rom under $200.  I've heard that some of the
Mitsumi's were not great.  Haven't heard anything about the double speed yet. 
The outfit that I saw a Panasonic double spin for under $200 was DPC, in
Flushing, NY.  Tel. 718 969 6827.  They were at a Ken Gordon Show in
Massachusetts last weekend.  I was tempted to buy one for my son.  I did buy
some other stuff from them at what seemed to be good prices.  It may be worth a
call.  The drive came with the cable to attach it to a sound card, the CD-rom
driver software, but no cd-roms.  Good shopping!

Mike



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From: ROBIN HARDISON                         Number: 12134
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/16/94  8:44a
Subj: Only see part of the gif                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Randy Neuner looked all around before speaking to All
 about Only see part of the gif

 RN> Slightly off topic.  When viewing some large size byte gifs, I can only
 RN> see part of the picture.  I have a 640x480 monitor with a 512k video
 RN> card.  Would going to a 1mb card do the trick?

 Get a viewing program that will allow you to zoom in/out and change the
 viewing size.  VUIMG (don't remember what it stands for) is very good.
 You should be able to find it on a local BBS.  It will also let you scroll
 up/down and left/right with arrow keys to view the rest of the gif.


ÄÄÄ¿
   ÀÄÄÄ> Robin

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From: JOE MEZZANINI                          Number: 12135
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94 10:43p
Subj: Games CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



Looking for games CD suitable for bbs use...


Joe Mezzanini
PowerLine OLS
PO Box 498
Marcy, NY 13403-0498






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From: KEN MORRISON                           Number: 12136
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 02/16/94  1:01a
Subj: Re: !Free Adult Cd Catalo               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Shane Snyder to Dan Prociv <=-

 DP>For the Largest Adult CDrom Catalog Available just send us your mailing
info


 Ken Morrison
 P O BOX 378
 Morrisville,NC
                27560
 I would like one of your CDrom Catalog (Adult). I am running 5 cdroms on my
board
 Thanks....
 Ken....


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From: KEN MORRISON                           Number: 12137
  To: CARL STONE                               Date: 02/16/94  1:01a
Subj: Genealogy!!!!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Carl,
I can Help ya with some Genealogy Info....Please respond via Net mail
1:151/147

Ken. . . 

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 12138
  To: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                        Date: 02/16/94  8:14a
Subj: adult cd's trade\sell                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can you tell me what is on the Total Fantasy disk.

thanks
Scott

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 12139
  To: ERIC HO                                  Date: 02/16/94  8:17a
Subj: Dr. CD-ROMs                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What about dealers in the us?

Please send some dealer information to the address below.

Scott Raley
P.O.Box 66
Ridge,MD 20680

I would greatly appreciate it!  There are no local sellers here and there is a
big market.

Thanks
Scott Raley

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 12140
  To: ZACH WALKER                              Date: 02/16/94  8:19a
Subj: CD-Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >  1: In the Message:
 > 2: I have a used 6-Disk CD_Rom.  I am willing to sell
 > it cheep.
 > 3: Under $800.00.  BRAND NEW CONDITION!!
 > 4: Call me if you want to buy at 492-3693.
 > 5:                              Thanks,
 > 6:                                    Zach Walker
 > 7: The nuber is Wrong!!!  Please call again if you
 > called the
 > 8: previous number.  Call 918-492-0107 and ask for
 > Zach
 > Thanks Again,
 >              Zach Walker
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Wanna trade that for A copy of Autocad 11, unregistered, unopened?

Scott

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From: MICHAEL EDINGER                        Number: 12141
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/16/94  9:10p
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a copy of NightOwl 9 shareware CD for sale.  Anyone interested,
leave a message here.
 
 
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From: PHIL BESSETTE                          Number: 12142
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/17/94  2:29a
Subj: Re: Used & NEW CDs                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Randy Neuner to James Pollock <=-

 JP>If you really do want to avoid spending any $$$, I'll swap you mine
 JP>for REBEL ASSAULT or the two X-wing Add-on packs, or for the SB

 RN> James, how about your Rebel Assult for the newly released Bodacious
 RN> Beauties (adult) disc.  Released in Feb 94.  As long as you are over
 RN> 21 that is.

 RN> Thanks
 RN> Randy


   hey there I would be interested in that disk if ya still have it and he's 
   not interested or of age let me know 
   >>>>>PHILEAGLE<<<<< 


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From: WALTER PETROSKY                        Number: 12143
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/14/94  3:27p
Subj: gigabyte gold                           Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MS>It's a single CD with mostly 1990-1991 file dates.

Thanks alot! Every help full. Do you know any good ones off hand,
Becides the Night owl and shareware's (all the bbs's have them around
hear.

Walter

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From: TIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 12144
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/16/94 11:01p
Subj: OS/2 2.1 CDROM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * copied by Sqed/32 0.87 @1:3803/1.4

OS/2 2.1 on CDROM, inlcuding original box, disks and documentation. Will throw
in a copy of OS/2 for Dummies.
A 19.95 value.	



                        		     40.00 Plus shipping.





				Netmail 1:3803/1.4 or call 1-318-988-1404






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From: WESLEY SCHARFF                         Number: 12145
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94 11:30p
Subj: CDROM for sale/trade                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DUNE CD (MSDOS). Over 400 megs of video and sound.  High gloss
manual in 6 languages and special character stamped CD.
Lots of strategy and excitement with full screen video
form the movie and great dream sequences.  Looking for a
Trade or to sell. Leave a message if interested.


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 12146
  To: ADAM GODFREY                             Date: 02/17/94  6:26a
Subj: Re: Wanted: Cd Rom Player               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

10 Feb 94  12:54:09, Kevin Plummer whispered to ...
--------------------------------------------------------

'> Hi, My name is Adam and I like the sound of that player sold it 
'> yet???? Whats it come with.
'> Will Pay cash!!!!!
'> Email Adam Godfrey
'> Thanks,
'> Adam Godfrey

Yes, I still have the drive....  

  Call me at: (317) 342-2034 or send the money and your address to:

Kevin Plummer
1355 Clore Drive
Martinsville,Indiana  46151

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 12147
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/17/94  6:38a
Subj: Re: Want Rebel Assult CD Disc           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

13 Feb 94  07:41:00, All whispered to Randy Neuner...
--------------------------------------------------------

RN> I wish to trade Bodacious Beauties (Adult) for Rebel Assult (NOT the OEM
RN> version, but the one with manual and reg card).  Bodacious Beauties is
RN> the newly released disc full of SVGA gifs of well known porno stars.  A
RN> great disc, I might add.

Call: (317) 881-9391 ask for Hershel, He might be interested.

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 12148
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/17/94  6:39a
Subj: CD's 4-Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 **************************************************************************
 February 1994        Saylor Enterprises   (317) 881-9391
 **************************************************************************

 9000 Sounds...................21.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........22.50
 American Business Phonebk 93..24.00    MVP Game Jamboree.............12.00
 America's Premier Shareware...14.00    Night Owl 10.0................30.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......23.00    Night Owl Games...............18.00
 Color Magic PC/MAC............24.00    Night Owl Grpahics............23.00
 Dictionaries and Languages....15.00    Pier 3........................25.00
 DR.Games......................15.00    Publishers Paradise Pro.......32.00
 DR.Music......................15.00    Shareware '93.................21.00
 DR.Windows....................15.00    Shareware Explorer 4 Disk.....38.00
 Games 1993....................22.00    Shareware Studio #3...........15.00
 Hackers Chronicles............27.00    So Much Shareware #3..........23.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................15.00    Software Vault Gold...........18.50
 Home and Office Legal Guide...15.00    Tech. Arsenel.................20.00
 House of Games................16.50    Windows 1993..................21.00
 Lan Master....................21.00    Windowware....................15.00
 Monster Media '93.............23.50    Window Master.................20.00
** All disk do not include shipping.
===========================================================================
                      Special:
 Rebel Assult Delivered to your Door...........$50.00
 Shareware Overload Trio...(3 Disk Set)........$20.00
===========================================================================


       You can FREQ the Newest CD Files list from 1:231/570 by FREQing
                 CD-ROM.TXT or our Adult list is AD.TXT

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From: MARIO BONELLI                          Number: 12149
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 02/17/94 11:02a
Subj: Re: Bodacious Beauties                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On This Day And Age [14-Feb-9410:43:00] Blaine Richard, (1:363/32) Bellowed:

Greetings Blaine,

 BR> In a message to David Vangelder <02-09-94 06:54> Richard Leighton
 BR> wrote:

 DV>>> $25.00 for the first node
 DV>>> $15.00 each additional node (up to five) $12.00 each additional node
 DV>>> (up to ten) $10.00 each additional node thereafter

I missed the begining of this message. Is this a BBS Ready Adult CD
we are discussing here? If so, I am interested.

Mario Bonelli - AMIGA_CDROM & CNET Moderator - FREQ US!
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From: MARIO BONELLI                          Number: 12150
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/17/94 11:08a
Subj: Catalogs                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


If you have a cdrom catalog with Adult Titles please send me a catalog...

Mario Bonelli
1938 S. 9Th St.
Phila. Pa . 19148


Mario Bonelli - AMIGA_CDROM & CNET Moderator - FREQ US!
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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 12151
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 02/16/94 11:55p
Subj: Re: Scsi Cd-rom $125                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Ismail Arslangiray to All <=-

 IA> Toshiba 3101 Internal Drive (350ms access time, 170kb transfer rate)
 IA> drive $125. This drive is ideal for sysos to expand their storage

I'll offer you $100 + shipping for your CD-ROM drive.
 
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From: MARK SPARLING                          Number: 12152
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 02/16/94  8:53a
Subj: Re: cd reader prices                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Quote me a price on the cheapest decent SCSI internal bare drive you have.
Need SCSI connector to SB16 SCSI-2, and audio cable.
1x is okay, 2x is better, but I want to stay under $200, so 1x is probably
all I can do.

Thanks,
Mark



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From: MAANAV THAKORE                         Number: 12153
  To: MAC USERS                                Date: 02/16/94 11:56p
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

T O  A L L  M A C  U S E R S ! ! ! ! 
 
Wanted : A Macintosh-Compatible Cd-Rom drive, 2x,3x,or 4x speed, used or unused
at a good price...Please E-Mail me w/ info at 1:141/1020.10

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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 12154
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/16/94  7:34p
Subj: 3. low cd-rom prices                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

On 02-09-94  22:42 Mike Shannon said something about 3. low cd-rom prices, to
which I reply: 

What year of the Time almanac are you selling? Do you have the 93 edition?


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From: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                      Number: 12155
  To: JOSEPH BLITCH                            Date: 02/17/94  8:35a
Subj: cd trades                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 



Joe;

received you cd in the mail. Sent your cd's out Fed Express this afternoon.
You should get it in a few days.

Thanks again for the trade anything else you eed, or wish to offer in trade,
let me know.


                            -=Frank=-

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 12156
  To: MIKE BIBEAU                              Date: 02/17/94  2:44p
Subj: Re: Double Speed drive wanted           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >I saw your search for a CD-rom under $200.  I've heard that some of the
 >Mitsumi's were not great.  Haven't heard anything about the double speed
 >yet.  The outfit that I saw a Panasonic double spin for under $200 was DPC,
 >in Flushing, NY.  Tel. 718 969 6827.  They were at a Ken Gordon Show in
 >Massachusetts last weekend.  I was tempted to buy one for my son.  I did
 >buy some other stuff from them at what seemed to be good prices.  It may be
 >worth a call.  The drive came with the cable to attach it to a sound card,
 >the CD-rom driver software, but no cd-roms.  Good shopping!
 >
 >Mike

Mike,
Not to get into a this rom is better then that rom. :-)

I use the Double Speed Mitsumi Drive and I like it, the speeds are the what I
call a true double speed ie. 250ms 300k transfers, now you do how to watch
what you buy with the Sony if speed is a big factor, I saw the Sony dbl (
which some are 320ms ( 70 ms slower then mine speeds ) as low as $169.00 with
all the equipment, but the thing I didn't like was for only $20.00 more I got
the mitsumi dbl which is 70ms faster at 250ms.

The mitsumis are proprietary {sp} but then again I don't care to buy a sound
card that the cd will hook into anyway, if you buy the roms without the cards
and use ie. a SB and the SB dies you know how no sound or rom. :-) If the
mitsumi will connect to any of the sound cards out I don't know.

IMHO, I would swaer that while viewing gifs directly from the rom and then
viewing them from the HD that the rom is faster. :-)

                               Mike Harris

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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 12157
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94  9:13p
Subj: Disk Swap                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following cd's I would like to trade.
I am interested in adult, no movies please.. 

1.. Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia V1.01VW with Users Guide
2.. Night Owl 7
3.. Dinosuar Adventure/Space Adventure with Users Guide
4.. Return of the Phanthom/F-177A  with Users Guide
5.. Ham Radio V3.0
6.. Our Solar System 
7.. Super Games For Windows req Windows
8.. The Women of Venus Swimsuit CD 

All Disk's are 100% readable, and are in original jeweled cases. 

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From: LARRY FOX                              Number: 12158
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/16/94  6:28p
Subj: Only see part of the gif                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Re: Only see part of the gif
 
> Slightly off topic.  When viewing some large size byte gifs, I can only
> see part of the picture.  I have a 640x480 monitor with a 512k video
> card.  Would going to a 1mb card do the trick?

Not if your monitor is limited to resolutions of 640x480 or less.  However,
some graphics viewers will scale down a .GIF to lesser resolutions, although
I couldn't give you any names off the top of my head.

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From: THOMAS MENG                            Number: 12159
  To: BRIAN ELFERT                             Date: 02/17/94 12:24p
Subj: DRM 600                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BE> $400 is a ridiculous offer for a DRM 600.  Considering that the DRM 
BE> 600is no longer made and it's replacement is at least $850, $500 is 
BE> theLEAST a used DRM 600 should fetch.
 
  Do you still have this drive available? If so netmail mail me with a price
and if you have a controller card that could be used. 
                                              Tom
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 12160
  To: RED KENNEDY                              Date: 02/17/94  9:51p
Subj: Windows shareware and gam               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RK:>You must have receive my moneyorder by now so let me know if the disks are
o
RK:>the way.... also will want the New cd-winbox when it comes out so keep me
RK:>posted on that please.. Would you also include a Catalogue..

Red,

It went out a couple of days ago.  Will put you down for a Winbox 2 also.
Word is that they're just about ready to go to press with it!

Later,
.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 12161
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/17/94  9:51p
Subj: WIN A PIER 4!!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                -----------------------------------------
                 W I N   A   P I E R   4   C D - R O M !
                -----------------------------------------

All Starvector Software customers between Feb. 19th and March 19th will
AUTOMATICALLY be entered in our 2nd annual PIER CD GIVEAWAY!  The drawing
will be held Monday, March 21st 1994, and THREE lucky individuals will be
awarded brand new Pier 4 shareware CD-ROMs!  As stated, all Starvector
customers will be entered into the drawing automatically, but there is no
purchase necessary to enter and win.  You may also enter by sending a
postcard with your name, address, and phone number to our address below.
In fact, it was Vernon Melton Jr. who won last year through a postcard
entry!  Congratulations to Vernon.  This year's winners will be posted
in this echo, with their permission of course.

As a side note, we are the frontline distributor for Pier CD's, and would
like to thank all who have pre-ordered with us.  The CD has been delayed by
a couple of weeks because the 1994 files are still pouring in, but we just
received word that they should begin shipping by March 1st........so get
your order in if you haven't already done so!  Dealers:  Give us a call!
We can offer you the LOWEST mix-n-match pricing on all Pier CD's. (Even
lower than your "normal" sources)

If any of the three winners should already happen to own a Pier 4, they
are welcome to exchange their prize for a CD of equal value.

If you don't already own a Pier CD, and would like to experience the
ULTIMATE in bbs-ready shareware CD's, incorporating the latest state-of-the
art graphic user interface technology, then get your order AND/OR entry in
now!  The price will be $29.00 on these great discs, but due to the
rapidly growing popularity of Pier's, early availability may be touch and
go.......so reserve yours today, or try your luck with our drawing!  Either
way, don't miss out on THE shareware CD that's selling itself on reputation
alone!  ***Special package deals are coming too!  Stay tuned***

STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50


 * SLMR 2.1a * Is it '96 yet???

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 12162
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/17/94  9:51p
Subj: CD-ROM PACKAGE SPECIALS                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

      __________________________________________________________________
     |                                                                  |
     |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #5: SHAREWARE CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS   |
     |__________________________________________________________________|


   1. CD Powerbox 1        2. Pier 2              3. Night Owl 9
      CD Powerbox 2           Pier 3                 Night Owl 10.1
      Pier 3                  Monster Media 93       Night Owl 11
      ------                  ----------------       ------------
      $49                     $59                    $69


   4. Pier 2               5. CD Powerbox 2       6. Software Vault Gold
      Pier 3                  CD Winbox 1.01         Software Vault Games
      CD Powerbox 2           CD OS/2Box             Software Vault Windows
      -------------           ----------             ----------------------
      $59                     $49                    $49


   7. Tech Arsenal         8. CD Powerbox 2       9. OS/2Box
      Source CD-ROM           Pier 3                 Hobbes OS/2 10/93
      -------------           ------                 -----------------
      $37                     $44                    $34


  10. Windows Collection  11. Windows Companion  12. OS/2Box
      Windows Companion       OS/2 Companion         Hobbes OS/2 10/93
      Windows 1993            Dr. Shareware          OS/2 Companion
      ------------            -------------          ------------------
      $59                     $49                    $49

         BONUS:  Get CD Winbox for only $12 with any package deal!

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 400+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4.50 to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


 * SLMR 2.1a * It's Ensign Pillsbury....he's bread Jim.

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12163
  To: MIKE BIBEAU                              Date: 02/18/94  6:48a
Subj: MPC2 What is it                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB>opened up a whole new world of problems to solve.  With each new CD-rom I bu
MB>I end up reconfiguring something!  It is fun, so go ahead and enjoy.

Mike, thanks for the response.  I too have had to solve many conflicts
on my MPC 1 1/2 system.

Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12164
  To: MARK MONTMINY                            Date: 02/18/94  6:51a
Subj: Re: CD'S FOR SALE                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MM>Would you be willing to trade for any of:

Sorry mark, but no.

Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12165
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/18/94  7:03a
Subj: Shareware                               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

To: MIKE SHANNON
Subject: Shareware

Mike, have you heard of any problems with the new disc called 'Top
Drawer'?  Like the Mitsumi 005 drives not reading it?  Also, this disc
is not stamped ISO 9660.  Could that be the problem and what does that
mean?

Thanks for any info.

Randy Neuner


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From: JAKE REUL                              Number: 12166
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94  6:49p
Subj: CD Rom                                  Refer: NONE
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                               CD Rom Cd's 4 Sale


                1. Phoenix 2.0           Sharware files   $25
                2. Night Owl V7          Shareware files  $10
                3. VGA Spectrum II       800 Mods
                                         1100 Vocs        $25
                                         Animation

                4. Jones In the fast Lane

                        Kids discover finding a job and getting
                        College education

                                $20
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From: JAKE REUL                              Number: 12167
  To: BRIAN WILLCOTT                           Date: 02/16/94 10:22p
Subj: Shareware Disk                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BW>Hello, everyon, I got a CD-rom shareware disk (So much Shareware 2) And I
BW>found out I have that one already......
BW>(long story)
BW>So is there anyone out there, that would buy it, or trade it for another
BW>cd-rom disk.....
BW>->leave me a message here.<-
BW>->brian<-


        How new is this CD?




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From: JIM OXFORD                             Number: 12168
  To: TRACY MICKLEY                            Date: 02/18/94  2:18p
Subj: Re: 6 PACK CADDY WANTED                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > I am looking for a caddy for my Pioneer DRM-600-A. If 
 > your selling them, send me a netmail for my fastest 
 > reply. If you know where to find such a beastie, let me 
 > know here. Thanks for any help. 

   Go to any store that sells tv,stereo's, computers and if they have the
pioneer music cd's they most likly will have the 6 pack caddies for sale. The
only difference is the one with the DRM600A was likly white/gray the ones for
the music cd's are black.  

   I paid about $20 for a pack of them (3), and they do the job exactly the
same.

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From: HAROLD HAYES                           Number: 12169
  To: JIGER DESAI                              Date: 02/17/94  8:32p
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JD>>  This is to confirm our phone conversation on Sunday 02-13 7p...
  >> The check for local girls is on it's way.
  >> Harold

JD>       I mailed Local girls in the mail yesterday. NOW DO you live in West
  >Virgina right!!!        Because you said West Virgina and I wrote doen
  >something like "WA" for the state and did'nt think there wa anything like
  >that, so I remembered West Viegina.

JD>  If I messed it up, which I don't think so, the ZIPCODE should fix it right

JD>                                ..jig....

  Jiger West Virginia is correct!......I have'nt seen it yet....I'll let
ya know when it arrives.....H

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From: MIKE STEFFEN                           Number: 12170
  To: BRIAN HIPPS                              Date: 02/18/94  7:01a
Subj: CD-ROM Disc's forsale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> MAMMALS MULTIMEDIA ENCYCLOPEDIA - $15
-> WORLD ATLAS MULTIMEDIA (WIN/DOS) - $15
-> MULTIMEDIA BIRDS OF AMERICA - $15
-> MULTIMEDIA AUDUBON'S MAMMALS - $15
-> NIGHTOWL 9 - $15
-> SHAREWARE STUDIO ll - $15
-> MACMILLAN DICTIONARY FOR CHILDREN (WIN) - $15
I'm interested in the mammals, birds and kids dictionary.  Trade for any games?
Mike

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From: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                      Number: 12171
  To: JIGER DESAI                              Date: 02/17/94 10:30p
Subj: ADULT CD'S TRADE/SELL                   Refer: NONE
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Jiger;
thanks for the reply. They are all gifs, 640- 1024 nothing else. some of the
gifs are FAR-OUT, if You know what I mean.

Volumn II is already sold.
                                      -=Frank=-

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 12172
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/18/94  6:39p
Subj: Re: 3. LOWEST CD-ROM PRICES!            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 > GIF's Galore 9/93.............14.30    Star Trek Collectibles........59.00

Mike any info on this disk, like what is is the wav or clips? Thanks.

                               Mike Harris

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 12173
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/18/94  6:40p
Subj: Re: Double Speed drive wa               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >Thanks, I think I will have to get one now.
 >
 >Randy

No problem. Now if someone would only my qusetion about what I need to use the
photo cd drive of mine I'd be happy myself :-)

                               Mike Harris

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From: MICHAEL HARRIS                         Number: 12174
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/18/94  9:44p
Subj: Photo cd                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

What do I need to run to be able to use my photo cd drive's ability, I know
there are photo cd's out but do I need drivers or something and what can I
expect to be able to do with the photos once I'm viewing them?

My drive is a Mitsumi Double Speed MPC2. Thanks.

                               Mike Harris

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From: EDDIE CHING                            Number: 12175
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/17/94  6:43p
Subj: Sony CD-Rom                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anybody know the specfull specification for the Sony model # CDU-531-01
CD-Rom drive is?  If you have any information on this drive, whether it's good
or bad, please let me know because I am in the process of purchasing this
drive.
 
                                            Thanks!
 
                                                 Eddie Ching

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From: SAM BECKWITH                           Number: 12176
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/19/94 12:06a
Subj: CDS FOR SALE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DFW Discount Electronics    CD-ROM Price List  Orders: 800-829-0331
 Ship to USA ONLY.02/15/94  BBS: 214-259-4188  Local : 214-254-0331
     Mastercard, Visa, COD, and Prepay welcome.

*BBS Ready*           
9000 Sounds 9/93...........................................  $21.95
CD PowerBox v2.0 11/93.....................................  $19.95
CD WinBox 9/93.............................................  $19.95
Cream of the Crop II 10/93.................................  $20.95
GIF Galaxy #1 1/94.........................................  $26.95
Ham Radio & Scanner Companion 11/93........................  $17.95
Hobbes OS/2 Archives 10/93.................................  $14.95
Monster Media 93 Volume #2 9/93............................  $23.95
Monster Media 93 Volume #3 1/94............................  $25.95
Night Owl 10.1.............................................  $28.95
Night Owl 11 1/94..........................................  $29.95
Night Owl Games 10/93......................................  $17.95
Night Owl Graghics 8/93....................................  $23.95
Night Owl Windows..........................................  $26.95
OS/2 Box 10/93.............................................  $19.95
OS/2 Companion 11/93.......................................  $17.95
Pier 3 Shareware 9/93......................................  $24.95
Pier 4 Shareware 2/94 (pre-release orders).................  $24.95
Sci-Fi Fantasy 4/93........................................  $23.95
Shareware Explorer 4 CD Combo 8/93.........................  $34.95
Shareware GamePak for DOS 11/93............................  $17.95
Shareware Studio III 9/93..................................  $17.95
Simtel 10/93...............................................  $14.95
So Much Modem Madness 11/93................................  $21.95
Software Vault Gold 9/93...................................  $19.95
Software Vault Platinum Collection 1/94....................  $22.95
Sysop's Companion 11/93....................................  $17.95

*BBS Software*        
Wildcat! v3.9s BBS.........................................  $89.95

*Business*            
Britannica Select Software.................................  $19.95
Business Assistant.........................................  $13.95
Business Master 3rd Edition 10/93..........................  $18.95
Complete Home and Office Legal Guide.......................  $13.95
Marketing Master (DOS-OEM).................................  $15.95

*Children*            
Aesop's Fables (Win-Boxed).................................  $23.95
Aladdin and his Wonderful Lamp.............................  $34.95
Arthur's Teacher Trouble (Win-OEM).........................  $24.95
Barney Bear Goes to School.................................  $13.95
Barney Bear Goes to Space..................................  $13.95
Beauty & the Beast.........................................  $21.95
Interactive Storytime Volume 1.............................  $18.95
Interactive Storytime Volume 2.............................  $18.95
Interactive Storytime Volume 3.............................  $18.95
Just Grandma and Me (Win-OEM)..............................  $27.95
McMillan Dictionary for Children (OEM).....................  $22.95
Mixed Up Mother Goose......................................  $16.95
Peter and the Wolf (OEM)...................................  $18.95
Putt Putt Fun Pack (OEM)...................................  $23.95
Putt Putt Goes to the Moon (OEM)...........................  $23.95
Putt Putt Joins the Parade (OEM)...........................  $23.95
Sleeping Beauty............................................  $18.95
White Horse Child (OEM)....................................  $18.95

*Cooking*             
Colossal Cookbook..........................................  $13.95
Cookbook Heaven............................................  $14.95
Healing Foods Cookbook.....................................  $31.95
John Schumacher's New Prague Cookbook......................  $24.95
New Basics Electronic Cookbook.............................  $23.95

*Education*           
Education Master 2nd Edition...............................  $18.95
PC-SIG World of Education 12/93............................  $18.95

*Games*               
Adventures of Willy Beamish................................  $16.95
B-17 Flying Fortress & Silent Service (OEM)................  $28.95
CD Game Pack II............................................  $19.95
CD-ROM Challenge Pack......................................  $19.95
Chessmaster 4000 (OEM).....................................  $21.95
Conan the Cimmerian (OEM)..................................  $23.95
Cybergenic Ranger - Secret of the Seventh Planet...........  $14.95
Dagger of Amon Ra - Laura Bow 2 (Win-OEM)..................  $24.95
Deathstar Arcade Battles...................................  $13.95
Dracula Unleashed (Boxed)..................................  $53.95
Dracula Unleashed (OEM)....................................  $34.95
Dune (OEM).................................................  $33.95
Ecoquest: The Search for Cetus (Win).......................  $24.95
European Racers (Boxed)....................................  $30.95
F-15 Strike Eagle III (OEM)................................  $27.95
Gunship 2000 (OEM).........................................  $27.95
Guy Spy and the Crystals of Armageddon (OEM)...............  $21.95
Hugo's House of Horrors....................................  $13.95
Iron Helix (Win-Boxed).....................................  $61.95
Iron Helix (Win-OEM).......................................  $35.95
Jutland (Boxed)............................................  $44.95
King's Quest VI (OEM)......................................  $25.95
Labyrinth of Time..........................................  $53.95
Legend of Kyrandia (OEM)...................................  $22.95
Loom.......................................................  $17.95
Lost in Time...............................................  $24.95
Mad Dog Mcree (Boxed)......................................  $35.95
Mad Dog Mcree (OEM)........................................  $30.95
Maniac Mansion - Day of the Tentacle (Boxed)...............  $43.95
Mantis (OEM)...............................................  $19.95
Murder Makes Strange Deadfellows (OEM).....................  $23.95
MVP Software's Game Jamboree...............................  $13.95
Rebel Assault (OEM)........................................  $34.95
Return to Zork (OEM).......................................  $26.95
Secret of Monkey Island....................................  $19.95
Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe............................  $19.95
Seventh Guest (2 disc set - OEM)...........................  $35.95
Shareware GamePak for Windows 11/93........................  $17.95
Space Quest IV - Roger Wilco and the Time Rippers (OEM)....  $16.95
Star Trek 25th Anniversary  Enhanced (Boxed)...............  $59.95
Star Wars Chess (OEM)......................................  $20.95
Stellar 7..................................................  $17.95
Tornado (OEM)..............................................  $27.95
Who Killed Sam Rupert? (Win)...............................  $18.95
Wing Commander Special Edition & Ultima VI (OEM)...........  $26.95
World of Xeen (2 disc set - Boxed).........................  $44.95
Wrath of the Demon (OEM)...................................  $16.95

*Gardening*           
Gardening..................................................  $13.95
Pixel Garden...............................................  $25.95
Plant Doctor...............................................  $25.95

*General*             
CD Deluxe Pack #1..........................................  $24.95
Kaleidosconics.............................................  $22.95
MS Works (Win-OEM).........................................  $32.95
World of Mac Software......................................  $21.95

*Graphic/Clipart*     
Clipart Heaven.............................................  $15.95
Clipart Warehouse 10/93....................................  $13.95
Color Magic Clipart........................................  $19.95
Corel Draw 3.0 (OEM).......................................  $49.95
Desktop Publishers Dream Disk..............................  $26.95
Font Funhouse (OEM)........................................  $18.95
Fontmaster II..............................................  $17.95
GIFs Galore 9/93...........................................  $19.95
Icons, Wallpaper and More for Windows......................  $26.95
Jets and Props (OEM).......................................  $19.95


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From: SAM BECKWITH                           Number: 12177
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/19/94 12:06a
Subj: CDS FOR SALE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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Kodak Photo CD Access Software (Win).......................  $14.95
LaserSoft Banners (Win-Boxed)..............................  $24.95
Money, Money, Money!.......................................  $18.95
Mother of All Clipart......................................  $15.95
Presentation Magic (Windows)...............................  $29.95
Publisher's Paradise.......................................  $21.95
Publisher's Powerhouse 9/93................................  $16.95
Too Many Typefonts.........................................  $13.95
WorldView..................................................  $14.95

*Ham Radio*           
Ham Radio v3.2.............................................  $13.95
QRZ Ham Radio..............................................  $14.95

*Health*              
Family Doctor..............................................  $21.95
Home Remedies (OEM)........................................  $19.95
Mayo Clinic Family Health (Win-OEM)........................  $20.95
Prescription Drugs.........................................  $25.95

*Literature*          
Electronic Home Library....................................  $24.95
Greatest Books Collection (Boxed)..........................  $26.95

*Programming*         
Programmer's Disk..........--- TBBS v2.1/NM
 * Origin: Active Access BBS - Clifton Park, NY - (518) 371-4932  (1:267/144)
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From: KEVIN MARTIN                           Number: 12178
  To: BOB BRYANT                               Date: 02/18/94 11:10p
Subj: SONY/PHILLIPS DRIVES!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 BB> PHILLIPS/SONY CM205MS DRIVE SPECIALS
 BB> ------------------------------------

Bob, could you please try and spell Philips correctly in your ads?  Thanks.

Kevin
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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 12179
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/16/94  8:19p
Subj: Adult CD Swap                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

XXX Extreme

A.P.L. Volume 1

Swap for other Adult Cds.

Roger

  3627 Manchaca #215  Austin, Texas 78704
  Internet: davis@cactus.org
  512-440-7670

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From: ROBIN HARDISON                         Number: 12180
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/17/94  8:48a
Subj: TurboDUO 4 sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All

I have a TurboDUO for sale in excellent condition.  Very little use.

Includes:

two adapters (comes with only one when bought new)
5 player adapter
Python 4 joystick (for TG-16... needs $10 adapter for the DUO)
all cables and manuals
GREAT stereo sound.

GAMES:

Gate of Thunder - Super CD game  »
Bonk's Adventure                 ÇÄÄÄÄÄ originally packed with system,
Bonk's Revenge                   º        on one CD.
Bomberman                        ¼

Ys' I & II    ÇÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ originally packed with system,
                                          on one CD
Ninja Spirit - Hu card
Forgotten Worlds - Super CD
Valis II - CD
Fighting Street - CD ..... original version of Street Fighter
Legendary Axe II - Hu card

This system will also play audio CD's and CDG's (audio CD's with graphics).
With an additional interface, it can be plugged to a PC or MAC (depending
on the interface) to serve as a CD_ROM.  I do not have interface... already
have a CD_ROM.

Make offer or make partial trade on a 24 pin printer (preferably color) and
16-bit sound card.


ÄÄÄ¿
   ÀÄÄÄ> Robin

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12181
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 02/16/94 11:37p
Subj: Best New $19 SHAREWARE CD               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC>Nightowl 10 - 12.4%             Call PCJ at 615-339-0235 if you

Doug, the disc (as I said) is on its way back to you.  Please rush
Software Vault #4 Platinum to me.

Thanks
Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12182
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 02/17/94 12:10a
Subj: Re: Double Speed drive wa               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MH>I have the Mitsumi Double Speed and I am very pleased with it, viewing gifs
MH>I'd swear the cd is faster then the harddrive. The motorized door in nice

Thanks, I think I will have to get one now.

Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12183
  To: KEVIN BURNS                              Date: 02/17/94 12:15a
Subj: WANT REBEL ASSULT CD                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KB> RN> I wish to trade Bodacious Beauties (Adult) for Rebel Assult (NOT the
KB> RN> OEM version, but the one with manual and reg card).  Bodacious Beauties

KB>I have Rebel Assault with manual and box. Sorry but I recently sent in the
KB>registration card. If still interested let me know.

Kevin, let's do the trade.  Reg card is not a must, just nice to have.
My address is:

Randy Neuner
196 Hughes St
Ft Huachuca, AZ 85613

Send a msg with your address and stating you are over 21 please.  Feel
confident to mail RA right away as I don't rip people off.  I am in the
Army and a senior NCO.

Thanks
Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12184
  To: SAM BECKWITH                             Date: 02/17/94 12:28a
Subj: Cds For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SB>Shareware Overload Trio (3 CD set).........................  $19.95

Sam, could you provide a little more info on this set.  Any disc in this
set have file dates of 1993?  If so, how many approx?

Thanks
Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12185
  To: MICHAEL BLITCH                           Date: 02/17/94 12:32a
Subj: Re: Cd For Sale Or Trade!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB> Rebel Assault (NEW! Package still shrink-wrapped!!!)

Michael, second msg to you.  I have the newly released Bodacious
Beauties (adult) for trade for RA.  I have another deal pending but
wanted to send another msg to you too.  Please respond ASAP if RA is not
the OEM version (want the manual, etc).

Thanks
Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12186
  To: TOM BOWERMAN                             Date: 02/17/94 12:35a
Subj: SHAREWARE ONLINE #3 PREOR               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TB>-> Your complete satisfaction is GUARANTEED with ShareWare OnLine #3.
TB>-> Approximate ship date is 03-01-94 or sooner.

Price please.

Thanks
Randy


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From: PETE DINNELLA                          Number: 12187
  To: MODERATOR                                Date: 02/17/94  5:12p
Subj: X Rated Cd's                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Just a quick question:

Is there a way to start an "X Rated ONLY CD conf"?  I'm really tired of
D/Ling mail nightly and receiving CD packets that are 75-85% X rated
sales, wants, "what's the best"'s ect.  Or could we just start a
perverts echo.  Hey! I'm all for any sort of entertainment, no
censorship here, but when this echo started it was a good place to find
or trade software.  Now it's more like the corner porno shop than
anything else!  Just wondering.

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From: JIM BECKHAM                            Number: 12188
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/17/94  6:31p
Subj: MAC CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike Shannon wrote in a message to Doug Hunkele:

DH:>I'm looking for a CD of MAC files to load up on a DOS system...anything out
DH:>there on the market...CD needs to be in ISO 9660 format etc....

MS> The one we've had most success with is Otherware, which is
MS> 300mb of Mac and 300mb of Amiga shareware on an ISO9660 CD,
MS> with DOS type filenames. In stock at $22 if you're
MS> interested.

Does this have files.bbs file directories? When was the disk pressed? Is this
the ONLY PC compatible CD containing Mac files that you're aware of?

Jim


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From: DAVID GRIDLEY                          Number: 12189
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/18/94  6:18a
Subj: Double speed drive wanted               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Give Tom Stehlar a call voice at 716-254-4479.. he has the Mitsumi FX001 double
speed internal CD-ROM drives w/interface for $199. plus shipping. I have one
and they are real nice.


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From: DAVID GRIDLEY                          Number: 12190
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/18/94  6:18a
Subj: Catalogs wanted...                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Send me any cdrom catalogs you may have (including adult)...

David Gridley
9 Straub st.
Rochester, NY 14613


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From: JOHN SMITH                             Number: 12191
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/18/94  6:18a
Subj: Systems For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                 ***          ***               ***
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        ******            ***          *******
         ****            ***            *****

There is a new retailer on the network who can get you the
best in system prices on the real top quality systems and
components -- J & J SoftSystems.

Here is an example of what we can offer:

     ========================================================
     IBM Personal System/ 1 "Expert" System
          Intel i80486-DX2 50 mHz CPU
          4 megabytes of RAM (One 72-pin IBM SIMM unit)
          On Board Cirrus Logic VLB SVGA Video Circuitry
          1.44 mb 3-1/2" Floppy (Drive A:)
          1.2 mb 5-1/4" Floppy (Drive B:)
          256 mb IBM 3-1/2" IDE Hard Disk
          Total of 6 Drive Bays (2 3-1/2 internal,
               2 3-1/2 exposed, 2 5-1/4 exposed)
          Medium Height Tower Case w/ Sliding Drive Bay Door
               and Front Sliding Case Cover
          IBM Bus Mouse
          IBM PS/2-style Keyboard
          Pre-Loaded Software:
               MS-DOS version 6.2
               MicroSoft Windows 3.1
               Software Sampler/ Demo Pack
               PS/1 Productivity Pack

     Selling Price: $ 1499.00 plus Shipping
     ========================================================
     IBM Personal System/ 1 "Consultant" System
          Intel i80486-DX2 66 mHz CPU
          8 megabytes of RAM (One 72-pin IBM SIMM unit)
          On Board Cirrus Logic VLB SVGA Video Circuitry
          1.44 mb 3-1/2" Floppy (Drive A:)
          1.2 mb 5-1/4" Floppy (Drive B:)
          420 mb IBM 3-1/2" IDE Hard Disk
          Total of 6 Drive Bays (2 3-1/2 internal,
               2 3-1/2 exposed, 2 5-1/4 exposed)
          Medium Height Tower Case w/ Sliding Drive Bay Door
               and Front Sliding Case Cover.
          IBM Bus Mouse
          IBM PS/2-style Keyboard
          Pre-Loaded Software:
               MS-DOS version 6.2
               MicroSoft Windows 3.1
               Software Sampler/ Demo Pack
               PS/1 Productivity Pack

     Selling Price: $ 1759.00 plus Shipping
     ========================================================
     Compaq "Presario" CDS-850 System
          Intel i80486-DX2 50 mHz CPU
          4 megabytes of RAM
          On Board VLB SVGA Video Circuitry (1 mb VRAM)
          1.44 mb 3-1/2" Floppy (Drive A:)
          1.2 mb 5-1/4" Floppy (Drive B:)
          340 mb 3-1/2" IDE Hard Disk
          Internal Double-Spin CD-ROM Drive
          Total of 6 Drive Bays (2 3-1/2 internal,
               2 3-1/2 exposed, 2 5-1/4 exposed)
          Medium Height Tower Case
          Serial Mouse
          101-key Extanded Keyboard
          SoundBlaster Plus Sound Board
          LabTech Amplified Speakers
          Pre-Loaded Software:
               MS-DOS version 6.2
               MicroSoft Windows 3.1
               Software Sampler/ Demo Pack
               Compaq Productivity Pack

     Selling Price: $ 2559.00 plus Shipping
     ========================================================

     UPGRADES (with purchase of any system above):
     ========================================================
     Compaq 14"/ .39 dp VGA Color Monitor ...........$ 219.99
     Compaq 14"/ .28 dp SVGA Color Monitor ..........  309.00
     IBM 14"/ .28 dp SVGA 72 Hz Color Monitor .......  309.00
     IBM 15"/ .28 dp SVGA 70 Hz Color Monitor .......  509.00
     NEC 3fgE 15"/ .28 dp SVGA Color Monitor ........  579.00
     NEC 4fgE 15"/ .28 dp SVGA Color Monitor ........  659.00
     NEC 5fgE 17"/ .28 dp SVGA Color Monitor ........  999.00
     NEC 21"/ .28 dp SVGA Color Monitor ............. 2299.00
     ========================================================

     SHIPPING:
     ========================================================
     UPS Ground for any system listed above ..........$ 45.00
     Federal Express for any system listed above .....$135.00
     UPS Ground for any monitor listed above .........$ 20.00
     Federal Express for any monitor listed above ....$ 35.00

To order, mail us your order along with a Certified Check, 
Cashier's Check, or U. S. Postal Money Order for the amount
of the sale plus shipping msde out to:
            ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^
J & J SoftSystems
P. O. Box 593
Wayland, NY  14572

Information Line:  1-800-461-5709 between 8 am & 5 pm EST.
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From: CJ JASKIEWICZ                          Number: 12192
  To: BRIAN HIPPS                              Date: 02/18/94  9:39a
Subj: CD-ROM Disc's forsale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RE: CD-ROM Disc's forsale
BY: Brian Hipps on Thu Feb 17 1994 02:30 am

 > MULTIMEDIA BIRDS OF AMERICA - $15
 > MULTIMEDIA AUDUBON'S MAMMALS - $15

Brian am interested in these two cd's, if you still have them how about 10.00
each plus shipping? Let me know, Thanks, C.J.
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From: STEVE KRAISLER                         Number: 12193
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/17/94  8:45p
Subj: street maps                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested in maps that "zoom down" to streets.  I've heard of two: 
Street Atlas and Global Explorer.  Can anyone compare the two and tell me 
how they differ and why they may prefer one over the other?  Thanks

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From: HANS FELSH                             Number: 12194
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/18/94 11:55a
Subj: 486dx                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

hello all. I am looking to buy a 486dx motherboard (any speed) with cpu,
and am looking for quotes if you are selling one. please respond here if
you are a dealer, or if you have a USED mb w/ cpu, please call me at the
number below.

... Hans W. Felsh - 536 Paula Dr. Clarksville, TN 37042 - (615) 647-8544
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 12195
  To: EARL TRUSS                               Date: 02/17/94  8:02p
Subj: Best Cdrom Prices                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 ET> Is this the two or five disk version?

it would be the smaller 2 disc version.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 12196
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 02/17/94  8:25p
Subj: **FOR SALE**                            Refer: NONE
Read: 02/20/94  7:10a                       Private: No 

What happened to Bob Hall?

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From: CARL WILSON                            Number: 12197
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/18/94  4:11p
Subj: Re: Astronomy ShareWare CD-RO           Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Carl Wilson <=-

 MS> The best one I've seen so far is the "Space & Astronomy" CD from
 MS> Walnut Creek

 Thanks for the info!  I'll be sure to get that one!

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From: MICHAEL BLITCH                         Number: 12198
  To: ALAN BRADSHAW                            Date: 02/09/94  5:55p
Subj: WANTED - HACKER CD ROMS                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

AB>I'm looking for CD Roms that have Hacker/UFO/Occult/Weapons
AB>type files, perferably BBS ready. I already have Hacker Chronicals and
AB>Forbidden Subjects. I'm told that there are others....
AB>If you know of any, post me the details, Title, source, etc.

Do you find these really interesting and worth the price? I'm not
setting up a BBS, but I would be interested in getting these for myself.
Waht is your opinion of them?

 <Mike>
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 12199
  To: JOHN SMITH                               Date: 02/20/94  7:10a
Subj: Systems For Sale                        Refer: 12191
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> There is a new retailer on the network who can get you the
-> best in system prices on the real top quality systems and

John, please only advertise CD ROM products.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 12200
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 02/20/94  7:19a
Subj: **FOR SALE**                            Refer: 12196
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

-> What happened to Bob Hall?

He's still around... You can reach him at Ellis Enterprises in OK City.
His phone number is 800-723-9500.

Bob is one of the most well connected distributors in this business and
can turn you on to some incredible wholesale prices..... He's also a
pretty good fart to deal with.

tim
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From: DON OLDENBURG                          Number: 12201
  To: ROBERT KUMMER                            Date: 02/13/94  5:10p
Subj: CD for Sale or Trade!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 >     Hello Don, I'm interested in the above title if
 > it's still
 >    available? I have several CD's listed in a message
 > posted to
 >    ALL in this conference. Please take a look and let
 > me know if
 >    we can do a trade. Thanks.

 >    Robert.

Anything more current--BBS Ready?

Don Oldenburg

P.S.  I believe forbidden subjects is a just out release?!?

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From: DON OLDENBURG                          Number: 12202
  To: MICHAEL BLITCH                           Date: 02/16/94  5:17p
Subj: CD's For Sale!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Michael...  Thought as you were so interested in Forbidden Subjects, I would
Crash this message over to you!

(TRIED, BUT MOCKINGBIRD HEIGHTS DIDN'T ANSWER OR WAS BUSY FOR 36 HOURS
STRAIGHT)...  So, I am sending this through the normal Echo!

==================================

What does the Star Trek Disk have on it????

What is "Man Enough?"

Don Oldenburg
1:121/34

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From: TERRY BALSEWICZ                        Number: 12203
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/19/94 10:19a
Subj: cdroms                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

STARCOM BBS has the best prices on CD-ROMS  414-541-9362!!!!

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From: BRIAN WOODBURY                         Number: 12204
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 02/18/94 11:44a
Subj: hd                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Scott, tried the voice number I had for you and it was disconnected. Drive was
sent out, but I've heard back from two other people who haven't rec'd their
stuff yet (and I sent them 2nd day cod) and it's been two weeks! Haven't rec'd
you case/mb yet either so mail must be running slow.


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From: RAY KOTARA                             Number: 12205
  To: WESLEY SCHARFF                           Date: 02/18/94  9:53a
Subj: CDROM for sale/trade                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'm interested in the Dune cd.  Only thing I have to trade would be Loom.  I
would be willing to buy the cd if price is right.  Leave a shipped quote here
or call me at 210-684-5095.  
 

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 12206
  To: BILL LUSCOMBE                            Date: 02/19/94  8:00p
Subj: comptons int ency                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Bill,

Sorry it took me so long to get back with you, but I had some hecktic times the
last week and a 1/2....

but... you requested COD to canada from the US, fraid it cannot be done(that I
know about)....

If you want to pre-pay, I can ship it to you no problem....  will probably be a
buck or so more, but I will stick with my $38 to your door price....  get back
with me on what you want to do... my address is 8418 forest ridge, san antonio,
tx 78239.. drop me a note if you are pre-paying, so I can hold one for you.


Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 12207
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/19/94  8:02p
Subj: Comptons's Int Ency                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have (2) Comptons's Interactive Encyclopedia's for sale.  These are the
windows version 1.01VW.  My price is $35 + P&H.  reply back soon, I do not
think these will last very long!!!!!!!



Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069

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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 12208
  To: CHRIS WISE                               Date: 02/17/94  2:44p
Subj: Re: REBEL ASSAULT 4-Sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Right now the only Amiga system I carry is the Amiga 4000/040 w 6 Megs RAM,
240 Meg HD. I am in the process of locating a supplier for the Amiga 1200
and CD32.  If I locate one I'll send you a price on them.
Dennis

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From: MERLOCK THE GREAT                      Number: 12209
  To: KYLE KELLER                              Date: 02/19/94  6:40a
Subj: 286 SYSTEM (PARTIAL)                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

My phone # (817)428-8140.  Give it ring if he does.  If one of my roommates
answers please call back later, they don't always give me my messages.  The
best time is in the mornings any day of week, work nights.

                                                           
llap

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From: JASON CHANCELLOR                       Number: 12210
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/19/94 12:36a
Subj: CD-Rom Recording                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

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                         -------------------------
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            We also accept floppies but please call before sending.

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                              75083-5034

  If you have any questions please call CD Technology at :
       (214) 578 - 6390   (Call 24 Hours a day)
                          (Buisness Hours 8 am - 8 pm)

  For Order form   FREQ : CD   from 1:124/8005

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From: MERLOCK THE GREAT                      Number: 12211
  To: ZEN                                      Date: 02/19/94  8:49a
Subj: Logoff message                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hey,
  How do they want for registration of TW2002?  I might do it if I can get
enough people to play.
                                                           -MtG

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From: CARL STONE                             Number: 12212
  To: KEN MORRISON                             Date: 02/17/94  7:11p
Subj: Genealogy!!!!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi Ken.....many thanks for your response.....hope you don't mind my 
replying here rather than net mail.....ashamed to admit it but I have 
never bothered to learn how to use it.....If you would rather keep 
this private you can call me collect at 813-586-2615 between 4 and 8 
PM Eastern....I'll look forward to hearing from you one way or the 
other.....Have a great day..... 

 * 1st 1.11 #303 * No matter where you go, there you are.
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From: T. CURTIS                              Number: 12213
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/19/94  1:11a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 1 OF 5                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Brice!

04 Feb 94, Brice Fleckenstein writes to All:

 BF>  Infocomm 10 Year Aniversery Coll. 79

   What is this disk? Is it different from Lost Treasures 1 and 2? Thanks!

T.

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From: T. CURTIS                              Number: 12214
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/19/94  1:51a
Subj: NEW LOWER CD PRICES! pt 1               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hello Mike!

04 Feb 94, Mike Shannon writes to T. Curtis:

 MS> The main difference is an abbreviated manual, and no videotape.  Price has
 MS> also changed to $37.90.  Give me a call if you're interested.  We also
 MS> stock the boxed version w/ videotape at $48.80.

  Ok, thanks! As long as some manual comes with the OEM's. <g>

  One more question. Do you (cd retailers) know when a current product will
also have a cd rom version due out? (even if you cannot take pre-orders for it)
I ask because I see Sam and Max is coming out on cd, and I just bought it not
two weeks ago on disk. I'd much rather grab the cd versions of most software if
it is going to be available. Thanks again!

T.

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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 12215
  To: DAVID MANZ                               Date: 02/14/94  7:25p
Subj: Compleate List Of Cd'                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting David Manz to Chip Slate <=-

 --> David Manz Quotes a message written by Chip Slate
 --> to David Manz on 21:18 02-02-94 saying:
 CS> Hey can you send these by mail?(USPS)
 CS> my address:Chip Slate
 CS>            P.O. Box 96
 CS>            Claudville,VA 24076
 CS> 
 CS> 
 DM> Chip,
 DM> It will be on its way shortly.

OK THanks !!!  C-Ya,Chip Slate



... "Dammit, Jim!  I'm a doctor, not a physician!"  -- McCoy
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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 12216
  To: ROSE CITY                                Date: 02/14/94  9:55p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Can Yousend me one of these Catalogs by USPS mail? Address:P.O. Box 96
                                                           Claudville,VA
                                                                 24076
                            C-Ya,Chip Slate


... Geneology: chasing your own tale.
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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 12217
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/18/94  9:13a
Subj: Software Vault                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

The Collection for Windows- Instant Library for Windows on CD-ROM

The Gold Collection - Instant Software Library on CD-ROM (unopened)

The Games Collection - Instant Games Library on CD-ROM (unopened)


Want to swap these for adult cds or games cds. Or will sell for $19 each.

Roger

  3627 Manchaca #215  Austin, Texas 78704
  Internet: davis@cactus.org
  512-440-7670

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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 12218
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/18/94  9:05a
Subj: CDs to SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Have the following cds that I would like to swap. Am interested in adult and
games.

MPC Wizard 2.0
ROMaterial
WIN CD Professional
Best of the Bureau (samples)
Wilsondisc - Readers' Guide Abstracts Select Edition
Shakespeare - The complete works
PC Magazine - Select Demos
Sing Along Classics - vol 1102
CD-ROM Premiere - Worlds First Totally Interactive CD rom Sampler
Battle Chess - Enhanced version

XXX Extreme (Swap for another adult only.)
A.P.L. Vol. 1 (Swap only)

Roger


  3627 Manchaca #215  Austin, Texas 78704
  Internet: davis@cactus.org
  512-440-7670

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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 12219
  To: JAMES POLLOCK                            Date: 02/18/94  9:07a
Subj: CPU <--> CD-rom swap?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

15 Feb 94 14:09, James Pollock wrote to All:

 JP> I have a 486SX-25 chip that I got in trade (somebody upgraded to an Intel
 JP> OverDrive), and I would like to trade it for a CD-ROM or two.

 JP> NOTE:  A multi-speed VLB motherboard runs about $140.  So you can upgrade
 JP> in two steps:  Once to 486SX-25 VLB, and then later to (for example)
 JP> 486DX-33 or 486DX2-66.  A 486SX-25 is roughly equivalent to a 386DX-33,
 JP> so it's a good upgrade for a 386SX or 386DX-16, 20, or 25, and you get
 JP> local-bus video too.

What specifically are you looking for? Check out my list.


Roger

  3627 Manchaca #215  Austin, Texas 78704
  Internet: davis@cactus.org
  512-440-7670

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From: ROGER DAVIS                            Number: 12220
  To: DENNIS WRIGHT                            Date: 02/18/94  9:10a
Subj: Adult CD-ROMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

15 Feb 94 10:23, Dennis Wright wrote to All:

 DW> *
 DW> *Many other titles available, call for pricing...  We also sell many
 DW> *non-adult CD-ROM titles.
 DW> *
 DW> *
 DW> *P.S. We will also give you a trade in discount on used Adult CD-ROMS, or
 DW> *     we will purchase your used Adult CD-ROMS.

Dennis, do you have My Private Collection #2? And if you do, how much trade
would I get on APL #1 or XXX Extreme on it?


Roger

  3627 Manchaca #215  Austin, Texas 78704
  Internet: davis@cactus.org
  512-440-7670

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From: LAUREN WOODHAMS                        Number: 12221
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/18/94  4:44p
Subj: CD-ROMS for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone interested in expanding into CD-ROM and is looking for a CD-ROM
drive let me know.  I can give you a quote on a drive and also help out
if you are looking for software.
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From: BOB BROCK                              Number: 12222
  To: DAVE DZURIS                              Date: 02/18/94  5:52p
Subj: ToShiba CDROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

HELP Please, Anyone or Dave Dzuris can i get some Help getting a Toshiba CDROM
Drive to run model XM3301BME SCSI It just keeps saying bad or missing
IBMCDROM.SYS Can anyone give me some clues, or a number where i might be able
to Dload another IBMCDROM.SYS. I Would greatly appreciate any/all HELP 
especially from you DAVE DZURIS i lost your number so i can't call you direct!
Thanks if anyone has info Please respond here or directly to 1:273/926 and
Dave if you read this CALL ME ASAP 215/425-9144
 ...Bob...

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From: STEVE O'BRIEN                          Number: 12223
  To: DENNIS WRIGHT                            Date: 02/18/94 10:58p
Subj: Re: Adult CD-ROMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Dennis,

  I am looking for  (have BEEN looking for ) My Private Collection Vol.1
(preferably) If you have this ; you probably have a sale if the price isn't
like totally outrageous!  So please call me at 1(215) 533-3190 ask for Steve,
or LEAVE A MESSAGE HERE IN FIDO!
Take CARE, thanx in advanced!
Steve

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From: STEVE O'BRIEN                          Number: 12224
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 02/18/94 11:03p
Subj: Re: Best CDROM Prices                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Doug,
 How up-to-date (manufacturing date or data date) is FireArms Reference??
VERY INTERESTED!

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From: JASON KLANK                            Number: 12225
  To: TIM CLUNE                                Date: 02/19/94  5:11a
Subj: CD ROM Changers?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello TIM!

11 Feb 94 14:39, TIM CLUNE wrote to ALL:

 > I'm new to this conference and am wondering if anyone is selling CD ROM
 > changers. If so, please reply with as much detail as possible about
 > their specs. Thanks.

I have a used Pioneer DRM-600A that I'm willing to part with.  It's a SCSI 6
disc changer. 150K data transfer rate, I get access speeds of around 350ms or
so, and it takes no more than 5 secs to change discs.  It has all the DIP
switches on the back of the drive for easy access.

I'm willing to part with it, in original box with docs and 1 6-disc cartridge
for $550 plus shipping.  This unit has been hardly used.

Jason

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From: DOUG HUNKELE                           Number: 12226
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/20/94  6:59a
Subj: Shareware                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

* Overheard by  Mike Shannon, Randy Neuner Mumbled...:
RN >  called 'Top Drawer'?  Like the Mitsumi 005 drives not reading it?

Randy,

   Running Top Drawer with 2 different Mitsumis one a 001 and the other a 005
with no problem....i did have a problem with another CD at one time but it
turned out the disc was pressed off-set...you may have that problem.

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From: SEAN CREIGH                            Number: 12227
  To: GREG SCHAFFER                            Date: 02/03/94 10:58a
Subj: Adult CD-ROM's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I want $20 for it. 
                   Sean
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From: MICHAEL CHAMBERLAIN                    Number: 12228
  To: PETE DINNELLA                            Date: 02/19/94  7:23a
Subj: X Rated Cd's                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Pete Dinnella to Moderator <=-

 PD> Just a quick question:

 PD> Is there a way to start an "X Rated ONLY CD conf"?  I'm really tired
 PD> of D/Ling mail nightly and receiving CD packets that are 75-85% X rated
 PD> sales, wants, "what's the best"'s ect.  Or could we just start a
 PD> perverts echo.  Hey! I'm all for any sort of entertainment, no
 PD> (1:18/9)

Hi Pete,

     Your question got me looking at this echo.  I received a 
packet this morning with 62 messages.  Only 7 had anything at all 
to do with Adult materials.  None of the messages could be 
considered perverted in my opinion.  Take another look.
... (A)bort, (R)etry, (P)anic
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From: NICK VICHAS                            Number: 12229
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94  5:13p
Subj: Cd-Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have a Magnavox CDD 461 CDrom for sale.  I has been working prefectly.
I have all the manual and controller card.  It's an external drive.  It
also plays music cd's.  
 
Best Offer.$$. 
                                             Nick Vichas

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From: ED STILSON                             Number: 12230
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/20/94  4:06p
Subj: Night Owl version 11 !!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Re: Night Owl version 11 !!!!
 
> DC:> MS> you care to set the record straight as to whether version 11 was
> DC:> MS> re-pressed, and if so why?  I'm really not trying to hurt Night Owl'


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From: KEN JOHNSON                            Number: 12231
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94  9:15p
Subj: Texel SCSI CDROM $167                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

NEW IN FACTORY SEALED CARTON!
TEXEL 3021 SCSI CDROM DRIVES!
1 YR WARRANTY
ONLY $167!
These are FANTASTIC  for BBS use!
340ms 150KB Transfer; Audio Capable
We have 6 left from a buy out!
Again these drives are the lowest cost NEW SCSI drives we've seen
with a FULL FACTORY 1 YR WARRANTY!
Leave message on CAD CONNECTION BBS 813-973-3346 or here
or call us voice 813-973-3330
We'll ship COD!
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From: KEN JOHNSON                            Number: 12232
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94  9:17p
Subj: Toshiba XM4101 Internal S               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*@SUBJECT:Toshiba XM4101 Internal SCSI  CD  $240                      N
We have one new Toshiba SCSI Double Speed Internal 320ms.
$240!
It's brand new but no box. Full WARRANTY & DOC included!
Call 813-973-3330 VOICE
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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12233
  To: KEVIN BURNS                              Date: 02/20/94 11:39a
Subj: WANT REBEL ASSULT CD                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KB> RN> I wish to trade Bodacious Beauties (Adult) for Rebel Assult (NOT the
KB> RN> OEM version, but the one with manual and reg card).  Bodacious Beauties

KB>I have Rebel Assault with manual and box. Sorry but I recently sent in the
KB>registration card. If still interested let me know.

Kevin, stop!!  Do not sent the game.  Had another offer that I accepted.
 If you sent it already, do not worry, as I will send it back right
away.  Sorry for any problem.

Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12234
  To: SCOTT CARTIER                            Date: 02/20/94 11:35a
Subj: MITSUMI X2                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SC>I recently purchased a mitsumi double speed drive from Micro Center for
SC>$199. It was packaged in a IBM Easy Options box but the exact same as

Scott, thanks for the info.

Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12235
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94 12:15p
Subj: Rebel Assult on a 386sx-1               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone know if Rebel Assult will play on a 386SX-16 with 4mb of ram and
a single speed drive?

Thanks
Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12236
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94 12:24p
Subj: PC Sig discs for BBS?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do the PC Sig discs have files.bbs suitable for BBS use?

Thanks
Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12237
  To: RICHARD THOMPSON                         Date: 02/20/94 12:30p
Subj: Re: We buy Cd Rom Disks!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following to trade for adult, or swimsuit, or recent
shareware cds:

Storm III
Adult Reference Library

Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12238
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94 12:32p
Subj: Adult CD discs to trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Have the following adult discs to trade for other adult discs:

Storm III
Adult Reference Library

Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12239
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94  1:37p
Subj: Phoenix 4 for trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Wish to trade Phoenix 4 (Shareware) disc for a Swimsuit or another
Shareware disc.

Randy


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12240
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 02/20/94  9:19p
Subj: Sent the disc yet                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

You should have rec my returned disc by the time you read this.  Did you
send the Software Vault #4 Platinum yet?  Hope so as I need to put a new
disc on-line.

Thanks
Randy


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From: SAM GOH                                Number: 12241
  To: CHRIS HANLON                             Date: 02/20/94  4:32p
Subj: Re: CD's for trade sale..               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

CH.> How much were you looking for for Comptons?
$28 prepaid will get you it shipped 2nd day.....
Sam

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From: SAM GOH                                Number: 12242
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 02/20/94  4:37p
Subj: Re: GREATEST CDROM PRICES 1/2           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TK.> Adventures Of Willy Beamish *B 25  MidiScan for Windows (Disk)   279
TK.> After Dark Trilogy             49  MidiSoft MIDI Kit w/Record Ses 69
TK.> Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp 39  Midisoft Studio For Windows    50
TK.> All American Series MultiMedia 29  MidiSoft Studio,Music Library  50
Could you tell me more about the MIDI title that you have?  How much stuff,
what, how would you rate them.....  I'm intrested in a CD with lots of
*decent* general midi .mid's and/or MOD's....
Sam

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From: KEVIN BURNS                            Number: 12243
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/19/94  6:36a
Subj: WANT REBEL ASSULT CD                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> Quoting Randy Neuner to Kevin Burns <=-

 KB>I have Rebel Assault with manual and box. Sorry but I recently sent in the
 KB>registration card. If still interested let me know.

 RN> Kevin, let's do the trade.  Reg card is not a must, just nice to have.
 RN> My address is:

 RN> Randy Neuner
 RN> 196 Hughes St
 RN> Ft Huachuca, AZ 85613

 RN> Send a msg with your address and stating you are over 21 please.  Feel
 RN> confident to mail RA right away as I don't rip people off.  I am in
 RN> the Army and a senior NCO.

 Hi Randy,

 I'll get Rebel Assault on it's way to you ASAP. I am most definately
 over 21, BD - 08/10/55. <G>  I was a little reluctant to do any sort of
 trading other than face-to-face, but if you can't trust Sarge who can
 you trust? hehe  I was in the Army myself from 78-83. First stationed
 at Ft. Carson, CO and then Schofield Barraks, HI.

 My address:

 Kevin Burns
 222 Leaflet Lane
 Spring, TX 77388-5958


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From: KEVIN BURNS                            Number: 12244
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/19/94 11:28a
Subj: REBEL IS ON THE WAY                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 Hello Again Randy,

 Just thought I'd let you know that I put Rebel Assault in the mail
 First Class this morning. You *should* get it by 2/22 (Tues) or 2/23
 (Wed). Who knows you may get it even before you get this message.

 Kevin


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From: KENNETH WATTS                          Number: 12245
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94  1:26p
Subj: CDROM PRICE LIST                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Watts Rom Disk Plus is now open and ready to serve all your cd-rom
needs.  This is a partial listing by far.  A more complete list is
available for Freq at 1:283/689 under the magic name WATTSCAT.  I will
not knowingly be undersold, if you bring me a price I can verify I will
match it.(excludes sale pricing).
1.  Aminet Amiga                                 $29.00
2.  Comptons Interactive Encylopedia             $89.00
3.  Pro Phone 1993 4th Q                         $98.00
4.  Windows 1993                                 $30.00
5.  Microsoft Bookshelf '93                      $52.00
6.  Mayo Clinic                                  $32.00
7.  Monster Media '93 #2                         $36.00
8.  Precision Mapping                            $72.00
9.  Seventh Guest                                $58.00
10. Winplatinum                                  $26.00
11. Games 1993                                   $30.00
12. Street Atlas ver2.0                          $98.00
13. Kings Quest V                                $28.00
14. Publishers Paradise                          $32.00
15. Hell Cab                                     $76.00
16. PC Sig 13                                    $35.00
17. Global Explorer                              $98.00
18. Clip Art Warehouse                           $15.00
19. Shareware Explorer 4cd set                   $49.00
20. Just Grandma & Me                            $44.00
ALL PRODUCTS ARE COVERED BY THE MANUFACTURER'S WARRANTY.  PRICES AND
AVAILABILITY SUBJECT TO CHANGE WITHOUT NOTICE.  ORDER WITH CASHIERS
CHECK OR MONEY ORDER.  IOWA RESIDENTS ADD 5% SALES TAX.  PLEASE RESEARCH
YOUR PRODUCTS AS ALL SALES ARE FINAL.FOR THE CONTIGUOUS U.S. CD-ROM
SHIPPING IS $5.00 PER ORDER.  SEND LIST OF TITLES PLUS CASHIERS CHECK OR
MONEY ORDER MADE OUT FOR THE AMOUNT PLUS S/H & SALES TAX (IF APPLICABLE)
TO:                     WATTS ROM DISK PLUS
                        P.O. BOX 1832
                        IOWA CITY, IA
                                   52244-1832
LOOKING FORWARD TO SERVING YOU!
                                  KENNETH WATTS


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From: TRACY MICKLEY                          Number: 12246
  To: JIM OXFORD                               Date: 02/20/94  4:59p
Subj: RE: 6 PACK CADDY WANTED                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 


 >    Go to any store that sells tv,stereo's, computers and if they 
 > have the pioneer music cd's they most likly will have the 6 pack 
 > caddies for sale. The only difference is the one with the DRM600A 
 > was likly white/gray the ones for the music cd's are black.  
 > 
 >    I paid about $20 for a pack of them (3), and they do the job 
 > exactly the same.

Gads, that has to be the best tip I've been handed in some time. I expected to
really get nipped on just one. Thanks Jim.

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 12247
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94  1:13a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E

* Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous Versions
* All Zipped Files      * New Viewer     * 60% Files Released last 90 days
"Night Owl 11. "  offer's over 4,500 all new files and supports for areas
such as Windows, OS/2, Games, Fonts, Ham Radio, Lan, Business and more !
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $26.00
   Best Of The Best - Night Owl 11. + Cream Of The Crop II - $45.00

ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Xpress Yourself!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 12248
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94  1:13a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

600MB's+, 4700+ files,  BRAND NEW RELEASE - 1993 - 1994  November - January.

Thousands of the most recent shareware programs and resources available from
around the world.  Includes a user friendly Software Vault Librarian that will
help you find and use what you need easily and quickly. (Games. Sounds, Sound
Blaster & MIDI, Graphics, MultiMedia, Word Processing, Fonts & Clip Art,
Pictures & GIFs, Spreadsheets, Educational, Database, Ham Radio Utilities, LAN
Utilities, BBS Utilities, and many more.)
                    SOFTWARE VAULT PLATINUM - $18.00
    ORDERS ONLY!! 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 12249
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94  1:13a
Subj: NEW PIONEER                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

))))))))))))))))))))) A L L  N E W  P I O N E E R  6 0 2 X (((((((((((((((((((
                        Double Speed  -  6 - Disk Changer

  300 ms Average Access Time  -  307 Kbs Data Transfer Rate - 256 KB Buffer
  Multi-Session Support       -  2048/512 Byte Selectable   - SCSI-2
  Complete with Manuals, Audio Cable, Power Cord, Magazine and Software.

   IN STOCK                   PRICE - $845.00                IN STOCK
        MULTIPUL UNIT PURCHASE DISCOUNT - SAME PRICE CASH OR CHARGE
     ORDERS ONLY 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress makes it's motion picture debut as the "The Emailator"!
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 12250
  To: MICHAEL PRIMAVERA                        Date: 02/20/94 12:00a
Subj: Hell Cab                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MP:>Thank you for the info. I tryed to order some adult Cd's from you
MP:>alittle while back for my BBS and you said you couldn't sell to the
MP:>Central Florida area is that still true?  My friend and fellow syop of
MP:>another board who has used you in the past told me about you and your
MP:>fast service. Would like to be able to use your service for stocking my

Michael,

At that time, we were not selling the XXX CD's to the so-called "hot zones"
because of local ordinances in those areas.  We only sell the non-XXX CD's
now, and can send them to your area with proof of age.  Give me a call, and
we can talk some more!

later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50


 * SLMR 2.1a * Dawn crept across the lawn, searching for her car keys.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 12251
  To: MARIO BONELLI                            Date: 02/20/94 12:01a
Subj: Bodacious Beauties                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MB:> DV>>> $25.00 for the first node
MB:> DV>>> $15.00 each additional node (up to five) $12.00 each additional node
MB:> DV>>> (up to ten) $10.00 each additional node thereafter

MB:>I missed the begining of this message. Is this a BBS Ready Adult CD
MB:>we are discussing here? If so, I am interested.

Mario,

Yes it is, and the images will "wow" you!  We have them in stock at $34.60
if you're interested.

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50


 * SLMR 2.1a * I used to have a life. Now I have Windows.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 12252
  To: RICK AURAS                               Date: 02/20/94 12:01a
Subj: CD-ROM SOFTWARE WANTED                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RA:>I am looking to purchase the following CD-Software:

RA:>7th Guest complete with video
RA:>Return to Zork
RA:>Monkey Island 1
RA:>Loom
RA:>World Atlas (windows)
RA:>Dune
RA:>Guiness Book of Records 93
RA:>Home Office Software
RA:>Indiana Jones 4
RA:>Kings Quest 5 & 6
RA:>Microsoft Cinemania for Windows
RA:>Publish It! windows
RA:>Who Killed Sam Rupert?

Rick,

We have all these in stock.  Give me a call, and I can give you the LOWEST
package price on the above.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50


 * SLMR 2.1a * Everyone is entitled to my opinion.

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From: MERLE COLDWELL                         Number: 12253
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 02/21/94 12:12a
Subj: Re: Photo cd                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> What do I need to run to be able to use my photo cd drive's ability, I
> know there are photo cd's out but do I need drivers or something and what
> can I expect to be able to do with the photos once I'm viewing them?
 
> My drive is a Mitsumi Double Speed MPC2. Thanks.
 
> Mike Harris
 
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Just to let you know, your drive is fine but hopefully multisession. All you
need is KODAK Photo CD Access software or KODAK PhotoEdge Photo CD software.
That is providing you are already running Windows as both of these products are
Windows based.
 
Merle Coldwell 

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From: DAVID MANZ                             Number: 12254
  To: BRENT WOOD                               Date: 02/19/94  3:13a
Subj: Address                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

One thing about sending a complete CD list, I don't have your address. If you
could toss it to me netmail at 1:363/227 or here on the boards I think that I
might get it to you quicker <G>...
David
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From: JASON KIMENKER                         Number: 12255
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94 11:54p
Subj: Adult CD Trades?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following Adult CD-ROM titles, looking to trade for equivalent
value CD-ROMS:
 
Massive Melons (LBO/ROMSOFT) (Movie)
Dirty Talk (ROMSOFT) (Movie)
Extreme Delights (ROMSOFT) (Pictures/Audio)
Doors of Passion (ROMSOFT) (Interactive Adult Movie)
La Triviata (PowerSource) aka Hot Shareware (Pictures/GIF)
Hot Cars, Hot Women (PowerSource) (Pictures/GIF)
Girls of Madigra (Movie)
Top Topless Dancers (Movie)
 
Contact me here in a reply, or netmail to 1:377/84.

# Since few large pleasures are lent to us on a long lease, it is wise
# to cultivate a large undergrowth of small pleasures.
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 12256
  To: JIM BORTH                                Date: 02/17/94  4:57p
Subj: Misc CD-Rom Titles                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

  >is that all that you have, or is this a small list, because i know 
  >someone who might want to buy a few cd-rom games. 
 
No, I have much more available.  For a complete catalog with 
descriptions, feel free to log on our support BBS and download 
CATALOG.ZIP from the CD-Rom Support file area.  Thanks! 
 
Computer Works                                          Jim... 
CD-Rom Sales 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Orders, File Lists, Catalogs 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 12257
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/17/94  6:51p
Subj: Top Drawer                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                   ************************************ 
                                TOP DRAWER 
                   ************************************ 
                        The Latest Shareware Today 
 
 
File stats for 1990 and 1991: 
 
90  File   %    Apx  'K'   %        91  File   %    Apx 'K'    % 
==  ==== =====  ======== =====      ==  ==== =====  ======== ===== 
       0  0.0%         0  0.0%             1  0.0%       100  0.0% 
    ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== ===== 
 
File stats for 1992 and 1993: 
 
92  File   %    Apx 'K'    %        93  File   %    Apx 'K'    % 
==  ==== =====  ======== =====      ==  ==== =====  ======== ===== 
       6  0.1%     2,380  0.4%         3,968 95.1%   558,536 91.6% 
    ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== ===== 
 
Over 45 Megs of 1994 files! 
 
----  Total Files:  4,174    Total Approx 'K' Bytes:   609,523  ---- 
 
Top Drawer is still available at the introductory price of $19.00! 
This price is good until March 15th, so get your copy now.  This is 
one of the VERY few discs you can put online and not worry about 
copyright infringements, viruses, and commercial programs showing 
up.  Give us a call if you have any questions or would like to place 
an order. 
 
Computer Works                  Top Drawer $19.00 
CD-Rom Sales 
(205) 793-4481 Voice        Visa & Mastercard Accepted 
(205) 671-0092 BBS          Online Orders & File Lists 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 12258
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/19/94  8:51p
Subj: Top Drawer Shareware                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Top Drawer has been released $19.00.  I have been working with the file 
lists, accumulating stats.  I am very pleased with the file lists.  The 
producers didn't hold back here!  Every file has a very complete 
description, and there is a file_id.diz in every archive. 
 
The following is a list of each file area and its contents: 
 
1-Applications                        has    63 files in  15997193 bytes 
2-Banner/Label Programs & Forms       has    25 files in   3515446 bytes 
3-Business Accounting & Finance       has   104 files in  25399144 bytes 
4-Benchmarks/Virus/Diagnostics Aids   has    63 files in   7320366 bytes 
5-Batch/Boot/Event Utilities          has    26 files in   1595654 bytes 
6-C.A.D. & C.A.M.                     has   103 files in  18077003 bytes 
7-Communications Programs             has    80 files in  12351707 bytes 
8-Comm Protocols & Modem Setups       has    44 files in   3941638 bytes 
9-Compression Programs                has    55 files in   6072341 bytes 
10-DataBase Programs                  has    69 files in  17295731 bytes 
11-Desktop/Desktop Pub/Spreadsheets   has    17 files in   3221633 bytes 
12-DOS Utilities                      has   179 files in  14074060 bytes 
13-GAMES and Educational Programs     has   365 files in  76315800 bytes 
14-Graphic Programs & Utilities       has    80 files in   9481809 bytes 
15-Graphics/Animations/Raytraced      has    26 files in   5368421 bytes 
16-Ham Radio/Shortwave Listening      has    93 files in  15695128 bytes 
17-Handicapped Aids & Utilities       has    12 files in   1409230 bytes 
18-Home & Personal Computing & Humor  has   108 files in  17143570 bytes 
19-Home Recipes / Health / Medicine   has    30 files in   4198633 bytes 
20-LANs/Multitask/Nets/AltOperatingSy has    77 files in  14132417 bytes 
21-Menu Programs & Shells             has    37 files in   5179932 bytes 
22-OffLine Mail Readers               has    51 files in   8905739 bytes 
23-OS/2(tm) Files / Programs          has   233 files in  34110248 bytes 
24-Patches & UnProtects               has    74 files in   9560616 bytes 
25-Printer Helps / Drivers /Utilities has    61 files in   7648704 bytes 
26-Speaker & SB & AdLib & Midi Utils  has    12 files in   2211023 bytes 
27-Religion & Genealogy Programs      has   101 files in  12080974 bytes 
28-WordProcessing & Text Editors      has    67 files in   7900261 bytes 
29-Win Communications                 has    26 files in   5191920 bytes 
30-Win Desktop / Editors / Fonts      has    87 files in  12752918 bytes 
31-Win Drivers                        has    14 files in   3920702 bytes 
32-Win Games / Sound Utilities        has    72 files in  10276459 bytes 
33-Win Home & Personal                has    79 files in  16611588 bytes 
34-Win Icons BMP's & Screen Apps      has    21 files in   5012270 bytes 
35-Windows NT(tm)                     has    18 files in   2080386 bytes 
36-Win Utilities and Help files       has   184 files in  26012861 bytes 
37-Windows(tm) Demo                   has    14 files in   6026718 bytes 
38-Outerware(tm) - Original Images    has   121 files in  34629332 bytes 
39-Feature Authors and Unique Release has    35 files in  10364486 bytes 
40-BBS Door Programs                  has   309 files in  46570628 bytes 
41-BBS Utilities                      has   507 files in  35141889 bytes 
42-BBS Software Packages              has    57 files in  21106603 bytes 
43-RIP Icons/Buttons/Screens/Utilitie has    91 files in   5721549 bytes 
44-PCBoard(tm) [PPE] BBS Extensions   has   185 files in   2863025 bytes 
45-BBS Network Info Pak & Starter Kit has    71 files in   1849664 bytes 
 
 
Now for the file dates.  Please note that the handful of files dated 
before 1993 are programs such as Wildcat test drive, which simply has 
not been updated since then. The files were carefully hand picked. 
 
 
File stats for 1992 and 1993: 
 
92  File   %    Apx 'K'    %        93  File   %    Apx 'K'    % 
==  ==== =====  ======== =====      ==  ==== =====  ======== ===== 
       6  0.1%     2,380  0.4%         3,968 95.1%   558,536 91.6% 
    ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== ===== 
 
File stats for 1994: 
 
94  File   %    Apx 'K'    % 
==  ==== =====  ======== ===== 
     199  4.8%    49,669  8.0% 
    ==== =====  ======== ===== 
 
----  Total Files:  4,174    Total Approx 'K' Bytes:   609,523  ---- 
 
 
Well, these are the facts. It's a great disc, and you can preview it 
online the Computer Works BBS.  The file list is available for download 
as TOPDRWR.ZIP. We are accepting online orders using Visa/Mastercard & 
COD. 
 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 12259
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94  9:49a
Subj: Shareware CD Dates                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Computer Works is going to be focusing in on shareware CD-Roms more so 
than in the past.  As I gather information on the different BBS Ready 
discs, I will pass it on to the readers of this conference.  The 
following is information concerning file dates on most popular shareware 
discs. I will release more info as it becomes available. 
 
                            File Dates in Percent 
 
Title                   1990    1991    1992    1993    Files   Megs 
_______________________________________________________________________ 
Big Sky Rom             27.9    26.0    32.8     5.1    7024    649 
Cream of the Crop 2      0.0     0.0     0.0   100.0    5719    600 ? 
Shareware Extravaganza  15.9    23.3    30.1     0.0   25376    ? 4 CDs 
Giga Games              17.7    28.3    17.8     5.2    2007    211 
So Much Modem Madness    0.0    14.1    35.1    50.8    7839    599 
Night Owl Games          0.7     0.9    16.9    81.4     916    126 
Night Owl Graphics       0.0     0.0    31.8    68.1    4562    637 
Night Owl 8              4.6     4.6    64.7    25.8    4945    ? 
Night Owl 9              0.0     0.0     0.0   100.0    4962    662 
Night Owl 10             0.0     0.0     0.0   100.0    5139    632 
OS/2 Box                 0.0     0.0    21.3    78.7    2029    281 
Pier 3                   0.0     0.0     0.0   100.0    4547    660 ? 
CD PowerBox 1.0          4.9    15.7    76.7     0.0    6805    605 
CD PowerBox 2.0          0.0     0.0     1.3    98.4    5640    637 
So Much Screenware       0.1     0.9    99.0     0.0    1905    ? 
So Much Shareware 3      0.2     2.6    53.5    43.7    5598    650 ? 
Tech Arsenal             8.6    27.2    33.9    30.3    7255    632 ? 
Top Drawer #1            0.0     0.1     0.5    96.5    4146    592 '94+ 
Software Vault 2         0.0     0.0     0.1    99.9    7969    ? 
Software Vault Gold      0.0     0.0     0.1    99.9    6148    579 
Software Vault Games     1.0     2.1     5.3    90.5     935    149 
Software Vault Windows   0.0     0.0     0.4    99.6    1852    267 
 
Notes: <1> The ? means that the byte sizes in the file list used for 
           the analysis were not compatible with the analysis program. 
           In some cases total megs stats were supplied by the producer. 
       <2> If the total percentages do not add up to 100.0%, then there 
           are earlier files or incorrect dates on some files. The one 
           exception is Top Drawer #1, which has 3% 1994 dated files. 
       <3> Accuracy of the above data is dependent on accuracy of the 
           file dates provided by the producer. Computer Works is not 
           liable for any inaccuracies in the data. 
       <4> All of the above file lists are available for download from 
           Computer Works. 
 
Computer Works 
CD-Rom Sales 
(205) 793-4481 Voice 
(205) 671-0092 BBS      Online Orders, File lists, Catalogs 
 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 12260
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94  9:46a
Subj: Shareware CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                     Computer Works CD-Rom Sales 
                          Shareware Titles 
 
Big Sky Rom             $26        Shareware Explorer 4 CD's       $46 
CICA Microsoft Windows  $14        Shareware Extravaganza 4 CD's   $40 
Cream of the Crop II    $29        Shareware Online 2              $24 
GameWare Collection     $22        Shareware Overload              $12 
Giga Games              $18        Shareware Studio 2              $16 
Hacker Chronicles       $28        So Much Modem Madness           $29 
Hamware 1993            $27        So Much Shareware 3             $24 
Hobbes OS/2 - Oct 1993  $14        Software Vault Gold             $25 
Night Owl 11            $29        Software Vault Games            $24 
OS/2 Box                $26        Software Vault Windows          $24 
Pier 2                  $25        Tech Arsenal                    $24 
Pier 3                  $30        Top Drawer  (New!)              $19 
 
Mastercard & Visa accepted.  Orders may be placed online our BBS 24 
hours per day or called in on our voice line.  File lists for most 
popular discs are available for download. 
 
Computer Works          BBS    (205) 671-0092 
CD-Rom Sales            Voice  (205) 793-4481 
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 12261
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94  9:51a
Subj: Top Drawer $19                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          That's right a great ShareWare ROM 
                     for $19.00 
 
 
 
Big Sky Rom's newest release, TopDrawer, is now shipping; 
for you who have pre ordered, it's on its way. 
Yeah, I know.  What kind of ROM am I getting for 19 
bucks? 
 
                   ANSWER 
 
       Possibly the best ROM you have to date! 
 
This ROM is published by SysOps for the SysOp.  Tired of 
compiling list and heaven knows what else to get a ROM 
online? 
 
This is the answer you have been waiting for, affordable 
files at this introductory price, to show what TopDrawer 
is and can do. 
 
Files.bbs in every DIR, so simple it can be run on a test 
drive of QMODEM (tm). Plus SPITFIRE (tm) files SFFILES.BBS. 
And you 4DOS (tm) users will find descript.ion files. 
If you're a PC-BOARD(tm) SysOp, you'll find a comprehensive 
SETMEUP.exe that will install the ROM for you! (...You do 
have to have it in the CD-ROM player!) grin........ 
All archives are compressed using pkzip (PKWARE (tm) 204G 
using maximum compression. 
All archives and their members have been scanned with the 
latest virus scanners. 
 
All files have file_id.diz's in them, GOOD ONE's, at that; 
we added over 1,859 full descriptions when none were available 
or the author thought that high ASCII looked better. 
 
And on TOP of all that, we have made a great effort to remove 
commercial files and other copyright infringements. 
Now, what this means is that we set this ROM up for the BBS, 
not the end user!!!! 
 
We have, because of current legal cases and judgments within the 
publishing community, removed VOC, WAVE, and MIDI sound files. The 
real programs are still there; we just deleted the lawyer syndrome. 
All of the GIF's are our own, no copyright infringements to worry 
about. You are licensed as the ROM owner to distribute them to your 
users. 
 
There is also a feature authors DIR.  That's the authors we felt 
exhibited professional demeanor in program ability and distribution 
ease.  Plus, we have the text files that are the latest rage -- that 
is, we have STEVE ROBERTS stuff, NOT Megabytes of FAQ's or other 
drivel.  We have taken great pains to think of the user and the SysOp. 
You will find your users cruising through this easy file system and 
praising you for the setup (that is, if you have great users like we 
do). 
 
Both the SuperMart BBS and PC-MONTANA BBS have handicapped users, and 
thought went into the files and their placement to enhance the interface 
for these special individuals. 
Ok, now to the brass tacks:  Files -- there are 4,174;that's 624 Mb + 
uncompressed.  Dirs -- no, not 50 or 60, just 45 ; and this ROM will 
interface with our first release, BIG SKY 01, so you don't have to do 
a major setup all over again! 
 
You've probably heard other SysOps saying that they're removing such and 
such ROM offline because of one problem or another.  We listen to these 
SysOps; you are our bread and butter (low cost spread in this ROM's price 
 
Now, where can I get this ROM?  Well, read the list and you can order 
this baby online or by voice. 
 
          The COMPUTER WORKS  Data   1-205-671-0092 
                              Voice  1-205-793-4481 
 
          THE SUPERMART BBS   Data   1-406-586-3774 
                              Voice  1-406-586-8344 
 
          PC-MONTANA BBS      Data   1-406-284-3120  THE MOTHER BOARD for 
                                                     BIG SKY ROMs ! 
 
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From: JAMES KING                             Number: 12262
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94  1:19p
Subj: CD-Rom drive for sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

                    FOR SALE

     Chinon CDX-431 CD-ROM external drive--ideal if you don't have
a free drive bay!  .35 sec access time, 150KB/sec.  Complete with
manuals and software, and FREE demo disk.  Asking $160 obo.  
 
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From: MARK ELSON                             Number: 12263
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94 10:25p
Subj: cdroms for trade or sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

We have the following CDs that we would like to trade or sell....
Digital Dreams Vol 1
NightOwls Vol 9

If interested leave mail here and we will get back to you.....

Thanks

Mark Elson

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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 12264
  To: LARRY FOX                                Date: 02/21/94  7:21p
Subj: ShareWare OnLine #3 Preor               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LF> > ShareWare OnLine 3 will soon be released!
LF> > NO PROGRAMS INCLUDED ON THIS VERSION WILL BE OLDER THAN 08-01-1994!

LF> Not without a time machine.

Eh? Why a time machine for 8-January-1994?

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From: T. CURTIS                              Number: 12265
  To: DENNIS L. WRIGHT                         Date: 02/20/94  7:59p
Subj: Penthouse Interactive                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Dennis!

06 Feb 94, Dennis L. Wright writes to Frank Gresh:

 DLW> I will be carrying Penthouse Interactive, it will be selling for $81.00.
 DLW> I also carry the Playboy Interactive Date Book for $38.95 **special

   What is this CD? A Playboy PIM? Thanks!

T.

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From: ERIC HILEMAN                           Number: 12266
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94 10:42p
Subj: cd rom drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I want a really cheap cheap cheap cd rom drive.  Does anyone have one for sale.
 My boss (my wife) is a real tightwad and won't let me buy a cool octtuple
speed.....anyone?

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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 12267
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 02/21/94 12:08p
Subj: Rebel Asault                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have rebel assault in stock.  I am asking $38.95 for it.
Give me a call at (915)673-1911 Voice, or (915)673-8181 BBS, or write
to the following address.

Digital Broadcast Video
3318 South 7th Street
Abilene, TX 79605
(915)673-1911

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From: DENNIS WRIGHT                          Number: 12268
  To: DOUG SNELL                               Date: 02/21/94 12:11p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Give me a call at (915)673-1911.  I can help you select a CD-roms that
would fit your needs.  You can also call my BBS at (915)673-8181.  If the
bbs doesn't answer try back a little later..
Dennis

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From: JIGER DESAI                            Number: 12269
  To: HAROLD HAYES                             Date: 02/21/94 12:08a
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 It's the 20th, today you should have gotten it, while iam writting this note. 
 
  If it does'nt come(no pun), call me 205-297-7406 or 298-8685
 
                                                ..jig...

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From: JIGER DESAI                            Number: 12270
  To: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                        Date: 02/21/94 12:13a
Subj: ADULT CD'S TRADE/SELL                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

> Jiger;
> thanks for the reply. They are all gifs, 640- 1024 nothing else. some
> of the gifs are FAR-OUT, if You know what I mean.
> 
> Volumn II is already sold.
>                                       -=Frank=-
  
   I'am sorry which CD's are these. I'am interested in buying one of them. And
how much are they. Or I might be interested in buy one.
 
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From: JIGER DESAI                            Number: 12271
  To: ROGER DAVIS                              Date: 02/21/94 12:18a
Subj: CDS TO SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > Have the following cds that I would like to swap. Am interested in
> adult and games.
> 
> MPC Wizard 2.0
> ROMaterial
> WIN CD Professional
> Best of the Bureau (samples)
> Wilsondisc - Readers' Guide Abstracts Select Edition
> Shakespeare - The complete works
> PC Magazine - Select Demos
> Sing Along Classics - vol 1102
> CD-ROM Premiere - Worlds First Totally Interactive CD rom Sampler
> Battle Chess - Enhanced version
> 
> XXX Extreme (Swap for another adult only.)
> A.P.L. Vol. 1 (Swap only)
> -More-
> Roger
> 
> 
>   3627 Manchaca #215  Austin, Texas 78704
>   Internet: davis@cactus.org
>   512-440-7670


 Can you tell me alittle about XXX extreme. I have a disk calle dSouthern
Beauties. It's a bunch of X pic's in 1024x768x256 and 640x480x16mil gif's. They
have really good resoulution pictures. I might be interested in XXX extreme. If
your interested in SB let me know. Can cal call me also at 1-205-298-6585
 
                                Jiger Desai

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From: BOB BREED                              Number: 12272
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 02/20/94  3:14p
Subj: PHOTO CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MH> What do I need to run to be able to use my photo cd drive's ability,
 MH> I know  there are photo cd's out but do I need drivers or something and
 MH> what can I  expect to be able to do with the photos once I'm viewing
 MH> them? 
 MH> My drive is a Mitsumi Double Speed MPC2. Thanks.

    Probably the best thing to just 'test' your drives ability to 
handle photo CD is to buy a copy of "Kodak Photo CD - Access 
Software and Photo Sampler."  It can be found at many places for 
around $10-15.
    It runs under windows, takes about 5-6 megs or hard-drive 
space to install it. Since it is a windows program, you use 
windows drivers -- and it does require a 640 x 480 x 256 driver 
to work.
    The disk has 20 test images. Using the software allows you to 
do a heap of editing things, as well as transfer the images off 
the CD on to your HD in various formats. (Pcx, Tiff etc.)
    The native Kodak format is HUGH. Each image on the disk takes 
about 6 megs of space. The image has five different 
configurations inside it -- ranging from wallet to poster size.
    I have yet to find a 'pure' viewer -- that is one that just 
displays the pictures, such as VPIC etc. do with GIF's. Most 
Kodak viewers are also editors -- and they are slooooowwww. 
Waiting for someone to write a fast, clean, slideshow type viewer 
only that will run under DOS.
    The Kodak CD has great potential, but still some rough spots 
as far as using it on a computer.


... SIMBA! DOWN SIMBA!!!! Sheesh.... I lose more mailmen that way....
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
                                                                               
                             

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From: DAVID SARGEANT                         Number: 12273
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94  2:15p
Subj: ProPhone                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I want some information on the new ProPhone CD-ROMs.  Are they like
PhoneDisc USA?  And is it one of those deals where you can only look up
a certain number of people and then you have to re-register it?  And
what does it have on it-just phone numbers, or addreses too?  Any
information is appreciated.  Also I'm looking for something like Street
Atlas USA, and also a CD with GIFs and MODs on it.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 12274
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/21/94 12:35a
Subj: Top Drawer problem.                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN:>Mike, have you heard of any problems with the new disc called 'Top
RN:>Drawer'?  Like the Mitsumi 005 drives not reading it?  Also, this disc
RN:>is not stamped ISO 9660.  Could that be the problem and what does that
RN:>mean?

Have only heard a few grumblings from my customers about the CD Randy,
nothing I can substantiate because I don't carry the disc.  You might ask
Doug Carpenter or Jim Lambert about it, since they sell them.  We've sold
hundreds of the Software Vault Platinums @ $19.90 and haven't had a single
complaint about them yet.

Later,
.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 12275
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 02/21/94 12:35a
Subj: 3. low cd-rom prices                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LF> Do you have the 93 edition?

Not yet, but soon hopefully!

.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 12276
  To: JIM BECKHAM                              Date: 02/21/94 12:35a
Subj: MAC CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JB:>DH:>I'm looking for a CD of MAC files to load up on a DOS system...anything
JB:>DH:>there on the market...CD needs to be in ISO 9660 format etc....

JB:>MS> The one we've had most success with is Otherware, which is
JB:>MS> 300mb of Mac and 300mb of Amiga shareware on an ISO9660 CD,
JB:>MS> with DOS type filenames. In stock at $22 if you're
JB:>MS> interested.

JB:>Does this have files.bbs file directories? When was the disk pressed? Is
thi
JB:>the ONLY PC compatible CD containing Mac files that you're aware of?

It does have FILES.BBS, but some of the file listings only show the program
name, whereas others give a description.  Garbo by Walnut Creek is around
50/50 Mac and DOS shareware, and it can be used on an IBM board, but the
file listings still leave something to be desired.  Of the two, I would
choose Otherware.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 12277
  To: T. CURTIS                                Date: 02/21/94 12:35a
Subj: NEW LOWER CD PRICES! pt 1               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TC:> MS> The main difference is an abbreviated manual, and no videotape.  Price
TC:> MS> also changed to $37.90.  Give me a call if you're interested.  We also
TC:> MS> stock the boxed version w/ videotape at $48.80.

TC:>  Ok, thanks! As long as some manual comes with the OEM's. <g>

TC:>One more question. Do you (cd retailers) know when a current product will
TC:>also have a cd rom version due out? (even if you cannot take pre-orders for
TC:>I ask because I see Sam and Max is coming out on cd, and I just bought it
no
TC:>two weeks ago on disk. I'd much rather grab the cd versions of most
software
TC:>it is going to be available. Thanks again!

Sometimes we hear tidbits, and other times we're totally surprised by the
re-release of a title on CD, but according to one report I read, ALL
commercial software will be distributed on CD-ROM by 1996, with the option
given to the purchaser to send in a registration card to receive floppy's
if they need them.  Do you see a trend developing?

Later,
.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 12278
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 02/21/94 12:35a
Subj: 3. LOWEST CD-ROM PRICES!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

MH:> > GIF's Galore 9/93.............14.30    Star Trek
Collectibles........59.0

MH:>Mike any info on this disk, like what is is the wav or clips? Thanks.

To which CD are you referring?  If it's Gif's Galore, it only contains .GIF
files....no sound.  If you're referring to Star Trek Collectibles, it is
a graphical database of collectible and valuable Star Trek memoribilia, with
pertinent data on each item.  No video or sound though.

Hope that helps.

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 12279
  To: STEVE KRAISLER                           Date: 02/21/94 12:36a
Subj: street maps                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SK:>I'm interested in maps that "zoom down" to streets.  I've heard of two:
SK:>Street Atlas and Global Explorer.  Can anyone compare the two and tell me
SK:>how they differ and why they may prefer one over the other?  Thanks

Street Atlas only contains U.S. data, while Global Explorer covers the
major cities of the world.  Both have the same ability to zoom in or out,
with varying levels of detail.  Both in stock at $89.90 if you're
interested!

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 12280
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 02/21/94 12:36a
Subj: **FOR SALE**                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DC:>What happened to Bob Hall?

He's working for Ellis Enterprises now.


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 12281
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94 12:36a
Subj: GET OUR NEW CATALOG!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

***************************************************************************
   FREQ OR DOWNLOAD STARVECTOR'S CURRENT CATALOG W/ 400+ CD-ROM TITLES!
***************************************************************************

 To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 400+
 CD-ROM titles that we stock, you may either download our catalog file from
 our BBS, or Freq (file request) it.

 BBS:   509-457-0206 - Download STARCAT.EXE from <F>ile menu. (1st call)
 FREQ:  1:3407/101 - File request STARCAT.ZIP

 Our new BBS now has an online order door with all our current titles and
 new lower prices!  All callers may d/l our catalog and/or place an order
 on the first call!

 Please feel free to call our BBS at 509-457-0206.  The system is using a
 U.S.R. Sportster 14.4, so you should have no problem logging on at any
 speed between 300bps and 14,400bps.

 While online, you may want to download one or more of the CD-ROM file
 listings that are available also.

 The Starvector BBS is online, and waiting to serve you!  Look for
 continuous updates and improvements in the near future, with more CD
 file listings, new online doors, and more!


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 12282
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94 12:36a
Subj: TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #2:  TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES   |
         |________________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

 BODACIOUS BEAUTIES * A FULL CD of high-quality .GIF's. *BBS-ready...$34.60
 SOFTWARE VAULT PLATINUM * All 93/94 file dates. No dupes to Gold!...$19.90
 MONSTER MEDIA VOL 3 * 650mb of files from Sep-Dec 93, w/ book. BBS..$26.40
 CURRENT SHAREWARE 94 * Brand new release w/ great manual! BBS.......$27.20
 CD POWERBOX 2 * The newest of the new! Current shareware hits. BBS..$25.60

* = requires registration for BBS use.

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
           or CD-ROM REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY $9.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 ORDERS...............509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 FAX/INFO/ORDERS......509-457-2966..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 400+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4.50 to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 12283
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94 12:36a
Subj: SOFTWARE VAULT PLATINUM!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _________________________________    _______________
           |                                 |  |               |
           | Title:  SOFTWARE VAULT PLATINUM |  |     $19.90    |
           |_________________________________|  |_______________|

     You all know about the quality and integrity of Software Vault Gold.
     Well get ready because it's successor has arrived!  Introducing
     Software Vault Platinum, an all new, all-93/94 shareware CD with many
     new and exciting features . . . . .

     * Over 50 categories to choose from
     * Separate directories for Windows/Windows NT applications
     * The Librarian (tm) user interface with DOS and Windows versions
     * ROMDOOR utility built in for easy BBS setup
     * Fully BBS-ready
     * BEST color cover on the market! (great for shows or store display)
     * 600+ megabytes
     * 6148 files
     * File listing available:  VAULTPLT.ZIP @ 509-457-0206 (V.32bis)

   2-CD SET:  Software Vault Gold + Platinum...........(NO dupes!)....$37
   3-CD SET:  Add Software Vault 2...............(still NO dupes!)....$49

                >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 ORDERS...............509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 FAX/INFO/ORDERS......509-457-2966..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 INTERNET.............pantera300@aol.com     International orders welcomed.
 COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
 FIDO CATALOG FREQ....1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 400+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4.50 to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5


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From: BILL PARROTT                           Number: 12284
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/17/94  6:53p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the deluxe copy of 7th Guest which includes the video of its making.

                             !!!!! $45.00 !!!!!

       I pay shipping too. Call 1-208-375-3844 or leave message here.


Bill

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From: TOM GUELKER                            Number: 12285
  To: JOHN STEVENS                             Date: 02/19/94  7:57a
Subj: PHONEBOOKS???                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JS>        I am looking for a CD with old phonebooks on it (specifically NW OHi
  >for research purposes.  I am told that there is a 5 CD set that contains
  >phonebooks for the entire U.S.  If you have a set from 1989 up to the presen
  >that you would be interested in giving away or selling let me know.  If you
  >not have such a set, but know where I might find such information, please le
  >me that also.

John, I've got ProPhone 1993 which has 7 discs (6 residential and one
business) that I still use but want to upgrade to the 1994 version.

This is THE most comprehensive telephone listing CD available. Ask any
dealer.

Asking $100.00 and I'll pay shipping if you send a MO or cashier's check
first.

Reply voice at (314)645-7792 weekdays and ask for Tom

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From: JULIE A. ZABACK                        Number: 12286
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 02/21/94 10:17a
Subj: Photo cd                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I know that there is a CD called Kodak Photo Access (or something like that),
and there are a couple of others like it that when installed will give you the
photo capability.  I think they run around $34, or so.  You need to have one of
these programs to run the photo CDs on your CD-ROM.

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From: GARY GILMORE                           Number: 12287
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94  4:50p
Subj: Warning                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 * Originally By: Richard Welty
 * Originally To: All
 * Originally Re: CRIS CD-ROM TROJAN WARNING!
 * Original Area: CIN SysOps Only
 
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C.R.I.S>  CD-ROM TROJAN WARNING!  Please Repost this and other warnings to
other nets!
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TROJAN HORSE on PC GAMES TO THE MAX CD-ROM DISK!
 
FILE NAME : MWARS20.ZIP  70,319 07-17-92   4:15p
 
CRC:
Length  Method   Size  Ratio   Date    Time    CRC-32  Attr  Name
- ------  ------   ----- -----   ----    ----   -------- ----  ----
  129  Shrunk     128   1%  07-17-92  06:27  40eec4c5 --w-  MWARS.BAT
28758  Implode  15864  45%  02-15-92  02:25  3976a9cd --w-  MWARS20.EXE
 6729  Implode   2058  70%  07-17-92  06:41  5399ca89 --w-  MWARS20.DOC
  687  Implode    309  56%  01-01-80  00:17  8049ecae --w-  NOTE.DOC
  130  Shrunk     121   7%  07-17-92  16:15  f04032ea --w-  YANG.ME
54272  Implode  39080  28%  06-14-90  16:57  b35fd7d1 --w-  INSTALL.EXE
 9728  Implode   5470  44%  04-22-90  20:45  5ea205c5 --w-  DEMO.EXE
 4176  Implode    937  78%  09-24-90  21:26  6d9565fc --w-  DOMENOW.COM
 9728  Implode   5470  44%  04-22-90  20:45  5ea205c5 --w-  READTHIS.COM
- -----        ------  ---                                  -------
114337          69437  40%                                        9
 
 
It's a nasty joker to say the least. Unfortunately these some of these
same files have been floating around for awhile but under various names.
Here's a quick rundown of the archive contents.
Those without a comment seem OK.
 
MWARS    BAT       129 07-17-92   6:27a  Runs Readthis.com
MWARS20  EXE     28758 02-15-92   2:25a
MWARS20  DOC      6729 07-17-92   6:41a
NOTE     DOC       687 01-01-80  12:17a
YANG     ME        130 07-17-92   4:15p
INSTALL  EXE     54272 06-14-90   4:57p  Trojan to kill a PCB BBS
DEMO     EXE      9728 04-22-90   8:45p  Trojan to trash disk.
DOMENOW  COM      4176 09-24-90   9:26p
READTHIS COM      9728 04-22-90   8:45p  Trojan to trash disk.
 
Note that demo.exe and readthis.com are identical files but with
different extensions. Sigs that will pick these up are.
 
REVENGE TROJAN
COM EXE UATE TROJ
BA 2A 01 2E 89 16 F8 01 B4 30 CD 21 8B 2E 02 00 8B
;
PCB KILLER TROJAN
EXE COM UATE TROJ
9A 00 00 99 0B 9A 87 04 E5 01 9A 9D 04 E5 01 33
 
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By adding the above signatures to your scanner the files above will be
detected.
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CD-ROM DISK INFO:
 
We have been intouch with the company that makes this CD-ROM disk, they
are doing a 're-press' on it.  There will be no name change on the disk!
The name will still be the same on the new one. So you will need to look
into your sub-directory called ARCADE (on the disk) to see if you have A
file called MWARES20.ZIP.  If you do you have a trojan on it. The Company
said they will replace the disk FREE OF CHARGE if you have one with the
Trojan on it.
 
PC-GAMES TO THE MAX Disk, creators of the SHAREWARE TO THE MAX.
MAX Productions 1994 (disk with trojan was released NOV. of 1993) ANY
1993 or 1994 copy could have the file on it.
 
If you have the disk and want to have it replaced call their tech support at
(602) 770-0000  or (800) 843-7990.
 
Bill Dirks - Michael Paris (C.R.I.S)
 
And thanks go to : Bob Miedema (MID-Atlantic Virnet Host)
                   Michael Jackson (C.R.I.S)
                   Roger Moore (DJ's Play Pen Bbs)
                   Michael Fischer (Oak Street Bbs)
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Please don't reply to ME about this, I'm just forwarding it for the public
knowledge.

--Gary

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From: EARL TRUSS                             Number: 12288
  To: JOHN FRANCE                              Date: 02/21/94  8:31a
Subj: 7Th Guest And Clue Book                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JF>I'm selling the the 7th guest and clue book for $50 if interested call
JF>me at 901-872-2921.I payed $69 for the game and $20 for the clue so it's
JF>a good deal for you!I also have the video the making of the 7th guest
JF>i'll throw in for free.Ask fo
r John

The game is selling for around $40 new now.  I'm not interested in the
hint book or the video so I'll offer $20 for this.

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From: JOHN VAN HARE                          Number: 12289
  To: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                        Date: 02/21/94 10:55a
Subj: Re: adult cd's trade\sell               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FC> XXX Extreme   $27.00
I am still looking to buy this one if you want to sell it, netmail 1:2225/1 
or voice 616-467-4197.

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From: JOHN VAN HARE                          Number: 12290
  To: ROBERT MOORE                             Date: 02/21/94 10:59a
Subj: Re: Top Drawer Released!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RM> I am interested in your new Top Drawer CD.  I already have Night Owl 
RM> 10, Software Vault Gold and Pier 3.  How many dupes could I expect to be 
RM> on Top Drawer?
I am running it on my BBS, just jumped in to say Jim is an excellent reseller,
he answers his mail and shipped me my CD - cod with no hassles, I reccomend
both highly!

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From: JOHN VAN HARE                          Number: 12291
  To: DAVID SHORT                              Date: 02/21/94 11:05a
Subj: Re: your kidding right?                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DS>  DC> $700 was a good price for the 600A.  $500 is a good price for a used
DS>  DC> one.
DS> 
DS>      Yeh, right.  When did you buy it, I can get them new for $550 simply b
DS> looking at the phone much less what I could get if I scrooged my distributo
DS> down a little.
Got a phone number for thase 550.00 cd changers?  It would allow me to take 
down my lan, run a seperate mail server, and put up Planet Connect without 
building another system.  ( I want to run a dedicated mail server for the 
sattelite when I get it, and am looking to simplify the rest of the setup here
as well.)  Any idea on longevity of these changers?

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From: JOHN VAN HARE                          Number: 12292
  To: BRIAN ELFERT                             Date: 02/21/94 11:16a
Subj: Re: DRM 600                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BE> $400 is a ridiculous offer for a DRM 600.  Considering that the DRM 600
BE> is no longer made and it's replacement is at least $850, $500 is the
BE> LEAST a used DRM 600 should fetch.
Did you ever sell this drive?  Is $500.00 what you are selling it for?
This isn't the "bad" one that was making the rounds on this echo is it?

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From: JOHN VAN HARE                          Number: 12293
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 02/21/94 11:19a
Subj: Vivid                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I see this is a more expensive cd.  Is it all XXX or what?

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From: JOHN VAN HARE                          Number: 12294
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/21/94 11:23a
Subj: dbl speed cdrom                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I know a place where I can pick up Mitsumi double speeds for about 217 
including tax, if you have trouble finding a decent price I can pick you one 
up and ship it to you cod cash or something....

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From: JOHN VAN HARE                          Number: 12295
  To: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                        Date: 02/21/94 11:27a
Subj: Re: adult cd's trade\sell               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

FC> Phical Therapy        $27.00
I am interested in purchasing this from you, it is just XXX Extreme with a 
different title isn't it?  That's what I was told...
1:2225/1 voice 1-616-467-4197

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From: JOHN VAN HARE                          Number: 12296
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 02/21/94 11:47a
Subj: Re: Adult CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KP> EXTREME DELIGHT (XXX)  - - - $29.00

KP> WILD WOMEN (XXX)  - - - $26.00
I am interested in these 2. Do you do CODs?

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 12297
  To: ROGER DAVIS                              Date: 02/21/94  9:22a
Subj: CDs to SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RD>XXX Extreme (Swap for another adult only.)

I will trade Animation Fantasies I for this CD.  Let me know if you are
interested...
 þ SLMR 2.1a þ 

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 12298
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 02/20/94 11:50p
Subj: Mitsumi From $139                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        Mitsumi LU-005s CDrom drive - $139.00 
    fast single speed drive with 350ms access time & 175k xfer rate. 
    has 32k built-in buffer & will read multisession kodak photocds
 
       Mitsumi FX-001d Cdrom drive - $219.00 
    lightning fast double speed drive w/250ms access & 350k xfer rate. 
    comes with 64k built-in buffer & reads all kodak photo cds
 
     SHIPPING ON CDROM DRIVES:  $7.00          COD add $4.50 
   SO MUCH SHAREWARE/2 Disk only $12 with purchase of above drive.
 
  SPYR, Inc  PO Box 89  Erie PA 16512  Int'l Prepaid Orders Accepted 
      Phone (814)864-4666 or fax in your order at (814)864-3993

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 12299
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 02/20/94 11:51p
Subj: Hot CDrom Prices                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 
World Of Shareware 3-disk set, update to world vision, 2000+megs $29.00 
CD Deluxe pack (Chessmaster 3000/Mavis Beacon/US & World Atlas)  $29.00
 
Night Owl's v11 Shareware  $29.00    Publish It v2           $29.00 
Any 2 Dr Series Disks      $25.00    So Much Modem Madness   $25.00 
Mantis XF5700 Fighter      $29.00    INCA Multimedia CD      $35.00 
MPC Wizard 2.0             $15.00    PC Karaoke bundle       $25.00 
Shareware Avalanche        $15.00    So Much Shareware 2     $15.00

 
   SPYR Inc, Multimedia Warehouse   PO Box 89   Erie PA  16512
 
       (814)864-4666 - Order      (814)864-3993 - Fax
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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 12300
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 02/20/94 11:48p
Subj: GREATEST CDROM PRICES 1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

101 Sexual Position  #1        39  Mayo Clinic/Family Health /Win 29
101 Sexual Positions #2        39  Mega Movie Guide               39
20th Century Almanac *B        25  Mega Rap Rock & Roll /Windows  49
A Line In The Sand             29  Microsoft Bookshelf 93 *B      49
ACS Multimedia Sound Library   19  Microsoft Cinemania            65
Active SP-680 80watt Speakers 109  Microsoft Encarta              95
Adult Palate v1 PC/MAC/Photo   39  Microsoft Works For Windows    49
Adult Reference Library        29  Microsoft Works for Windows    45
Adventures /MPC                39  MIDI Music Shop /WIN *B        29
Adventures Of Willy Beamish *B 25  MidiScan for Windows (Disk)   279
After Dark Trilogy             49  MidiSoft MIDI Kit w/Record Ses 69
Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp 39  Midisoft Studio For Windows    50
All American Series MultiMedia 29  MidiSoft Studio,Music Library  50
All American Sights & Sounds   29  Midnight Movie Madness for WIN 39
All American Sports, BB/FB/TEN 39  Might & Magic: World of Xeen   49
All Music Guide                49  Mitsumi FX 2xSpd, 250ms, 350k 219
Alone in the Dark              55  Mitsumi Int. Drive, 350ms,150k139
Altec Lansing ACS-50 Speakers  79  MM Music Library (Diskette)    49
Alternate Lifesyles            49  Monarch Notes DOS/MAC          49
Amanda Stories MPC             45  Monster Media '93              29
Amateur Models                 39  Mother Earth II                39
American Girls PC/MAC/Photo    39  Mother Goose, Multimedia *B    29
American Heritage Illustrated  69  Movie Select /Windows          45
American Premier Shareware     19  Mozart                         25
Animals, San Deigo Zoo /WIN *B 29  MPC Wizard, Test & Tuneup      15
Animals, San Diego Zoo /DOS *B 29  MPU-401 Sound Card             55
Animation Fantasies #1         39  MRS 14 watt Amplified Speakers 79
Animation Fantasies #2         39  MRS 8 watt Amplified Speakers  49
Anthony Robbin's Power Talk    25  MS Beethoven 9th Symphony      59
Arthur's Teacher Trouble       49  Multimedia Computer Case      219
Arthur's Teacher Trouble *B    29  Multimedia Computer Guide *B   19
Asian Ladies                   49  Murder Makes Str. Deadfellows  45
Audobon /Complete Mammals/Bird 59  MusicPower-Learn Guitar (disk) 69
Audobons Birds Of America /MM  29  My Private Collection #1       29
Audobons Mammals, Multimedia   29  My Private Collection #2       39
Authorware Star /MPC           39  National Geo. Mammals /MM *B   29
Band-In-A-Box, MIDI (Diskette) 55  National Parks *B              25
Bare Assets, Quicktime/Win     69  National Parks /MM             39
Barney Bear Goes To School     25  New Kid on the Block           45
Barney Bear Goes To Space      25  New Wave Hookers II  PC/MAC    45
Baseball Cards, Front Row Ed.  39  Newsweek Interactive II        29
Basic Electronic CookBook      59  Night Owl Games Disc           25
Basic Electronic Cookbook *B   29  Night Owl Graphics             29
Battle Chess *B                29  Night Owl v10 Shareware        25
Beauty & The Beast             39  Night Owl v11 Shareware        29
Beauty & The Beast *B          25  Night Owl Windows Shareware    25
Berlitz Think&Talk Eng To Fren119  NightWatch Interactive PC/MAC  49
Berlitz Think&Talk Eng To Germ119  Oceans Below                   29
Berlitz Think&Talk Eng To Ital119  Orchid CDS-3110 2xspd CD-ROM  259
Berlitz Think&Talk Eng To Span119  Orchid SoundWave 32 Sound Card239
Best of MicroProse  MAC/DOS    29  OS/2 For Windows CD-ROM        45
Best Of Vivid (In Motion)      49  Pacific Islands                39
Betrayal Adult Movie Win/MAC   49  Paradise Club Interactive      59
Bible Lands, Bible Stories     39  Parallel MIDI Int. w/Win Drv   95
Bible Library                  39  PC Game Room /Shareware Games  25
Blue Force (Accolade)          49  PC Karaoke (OEM version)       25
Boom Box                       29  PC Karaoke /Full Retail        65
Bureau World Fact Book DOS/MAC 29  PC-Pix #1                      39
Business Master                20  PC-Pix #2                      39
Capstone Casino Collection     19  PC-SIG #12                     25
Capstone Kids Collection /Box  19  Pc-Sig World of Games          20
Carmen San Diego Deluxe *B     29  Pc-Sig World of Windows        20
Carmen San Diego Deluxe /Box   59  Peter & The Wolf *B            29
Case Of The Cautious Condor    39  Peter & The Wolf /MPC          39
Cat&Mouse Adult Movie Win/MAC  49  Phone Sex                      29
CD Deluxe Pack MPC             29  PhoneDisc USA: Business /Box   59
CD Duo II (Mario, World Atlas) 29  PhoneDisc USA: Residental /Box 65
CD Powerbox Shareware v2.0     25  Physical Therapy               29
Chess Maniac 5 billion and 1   45  PianoWorks #1 /DOS (Diskette)  95
ChessMaster 3000, Multimedia   29  PianoWorks #2 /DOS (Diskette)  95
CIA Fact Book / Shareware      15  Pixel Perfect Graphics         29
Clinton: Portrait of Victory   19  Playing With Lang: English  *B 39
Clip Master Pro (Softkey)      29  Playing With Lang: French   *B 39
Clipart Galore                 29  Playing With Lang: German   *B 39
Clipart Heaven                 29  Playing With Lang: Japanese *B 39
ColorMagic Clipart             29  Playing With Lang: Spanish  *B 39
Comanche: Maximum Overkill     69  PorkWare #1                    49
Complete House, CAD/FP Package 29  PorkWare #2                    49
Composer Quest *B              29  Private Pleasures, John Holmes 49
Composer Quest /MPC-Windows    69  Pro Audio Spectrum 16         189
Comptons Golf Guide Haw/Cal MM 39  Pro Audio Studio (Enhanced)   249
Comptons Interactive /Win *B   69  Pro PC TV Plus, VGA/TV Convert229
Comptons MPC Ency. /DOS *B     59  Pro Phone 1993 7-CD Set       119
Comptons MPC Ency. /Win *B     59  ProtoStar, War on the Frontier 49
Conan The Cimmerian            39  Publish It! For Windows *B     49
 
                SPYR INC  -  PO Box 89  -  Erie PA 16512 
 
         MENTION THIS ADD ON NETMAIL TO RECEIVE ABOVE PRICES
 
     Shipping: Add $3 for UPS Ground on any order.  COD, Add $4.50 
     Terms: VISA/MC/AMEX/Check/MO/COD.  Most Orders Ship same day.   
   No VISA/MC accepted outside US.  Must State age 21+ for adult cds. 
   Dealers: We're one of the largest suppliers around, call 4 prices.

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 12301
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 02/20/94 11:49p
Subj: GREATEST CDROM PRICES 2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Conan The Cimmerian *B         29  Publish-It! v2 *B              29
Corel ArtShow III              39  Publishers Paradise            29
Curse Of Enchantia             35  Putt Putt Goes To The Moon     45
Cyber Audio Bundle /SRS, 1MB  329  Putt Putt Joins The Parade     49
Cyber Audio Bundle, 1MB ROM   269  Putt-Putt Fun Pack             39
Cyber Audio Bundle,Texel CDROM639  Q&A Database v4.0 *B           39
Cyber Race                     49  Quicken for Windows: Deluxe    75
Cyber Sound Plus /SRS, 512 ROM289  QuickToons: Cartoons For MPC   39
Cyber Sound Plus, 512k ROM    229  Rebel Assault CD               49
Dark Sun, Shattered Lands      59  ReelMagic MPEG, Video & Audio 429
Day Of The Tenacle/Maniac      49  Return To The Moon             39
Debbie Does Dallas             49  Return To Zork                 49
Deep Throat, The Movie         49  Return To Zork *B              32
Dictionary, Living World *B    39  Revel European Racers          35
Digital Dancing  PC/MAC        49  RingWorld Revenge of Patriarch 45
Digital Dreams                 39  Roger Eberts Home Movies *B    39
Dinosaur Adventure             49  Roland RAP-10 Sound Producer  519
Dinosaur Adventure *B          29  Roland SC-7 Ext. Sound Module 349
Dinosaurs! Encyclopedia        59  Roland SCC1-B Sound Producer  399
Dinosaurs! Encyclopedia *B     29  ROMaterial                     25
Dirty Talk /PC Movie           49  ROMaterial *B                  15
Disk Caddies                    5  Rotor / Air Ball / Time Bandit 19
Dr Games                       19  Sante Healthy Living, Cookbook 45
Dr Music                       19  Scary Poems For Rotten Kids    25
Dr Shareware                   19  SCSI-II CR533-B CD-ROM, No int319
Dr Windows                     19  Secret Of Monkey Island *B     29
Dr. Book Of Home Remedies      35  Secret Weapons Of The Lufwaffe 29
Dr. Book of Home Remedies *B   19  Secrets of Executive Success   35
Dracula Unleashed CD           55  Seedy ROM Movie #1             49
Dream Team: Advanced Spelling  29  SeedyRom Seventh Heaven        39
Dream Team: Alphabet Blocks    29  Seymore Butts Adventure /PC    49
Dream Team: Basic Spelling     29  Shareware Avalanche            15
Dream Team: Beginning Reading  29  Shareware Gold                 19
Dream Team: Early Math         29  Shareware Studio #3            19
Dream Team: Kids Typing        29  Sherlock Holmes Con. Det. II   39
Dune, versions 1/2             59  Sherlock Holmes Con. Det. III  55
EcoQuest, Environment Game     49  Sherlock Holmes Consult Detect 29
EcoQuest, Environment Game *B  29  Sherlock Holmes, Comp. Works   19
Education Master               20  Sing-a-Long Windows (Diskette) 39
Electronic Home Library        29  Sleeping Beauties Adult Movie  59
Eric The Unready               45  Sleeping Beauty /MM Story *B   19
Erotic Encounters #1           39  Sleeping Beauty /MM Storybook  29
Erotic Encounters #2           49  So Much MODEM MADNESS          25
Ext. Panasonic AT 562 CD-ROM  319  So Much SCREENware             29
Eye of The Beholder III *B     29  So Much Shareware /2           15
Eye Of The Beholder Trilogy    59  So Much Shareware /3           25
F-15 Strike Eagle III  *B      29  So Much SPACE                  29
F117A/F15 w/Scenario's         49  Software Jukebox, 3 Games      39
Family Choice /DOS *B          29  Software Jukebox, 3 Games *B   25
Family Circus, on Vacation MPC 35  Software Vault #2              19
Family Circus, Our House       45  Something Wicked Movie Win/MAC 49
Family Doctor                  39  Something Wicked Photo CD      49
Family Education Collection *B 29  Sony 31A Drive & Card         169
Fantazia Fonts & Sounds w/book 29  Sony CD-ROM 31-A/3 2x Speed   229
Fatty Bear's Birthday Surprise 45  Sound Effects Library          19
Fatty Bears Fun Pack           29  Sound Galaxy BX II Sound Card  69
FontMaster #2                  29  Sound Galaxy Pro NX-16        159
Fonts for the Professional v1  39  Sound Leader Pro               89
Fractal Ecstasy /MM            39  SoundBlaster 16 ASP MultiCD   229
Free Windows/OS2 Demos Disc     0  SoundBlaster 16 ASP SCSI      249
Future Wars                    49  SoundBlaster Compatible Card   59
Game Master                    20  Southern Beauties              39
GamePAK Deluxe (Capstone)      29  Space Adventure                59
GamePak II                     29  Space Adventure *B             29
Geekwad Games of the Galaxy    25  Space Quest IV                 49
Giffy Gold, California Girls   39  Space Quest IV *B              25
GigaByte Gold                  29  Space Shuttle                  25
Girls Of Vivid v1 (Stills)     39  Spirit Of Excalibur            29
Girls Of Vivid v2 (Stills)     39  Sports Best *B                 29
Girls, Girls, Girls, Girls     29  Sports Illustrated Almanac     49
Global Explorer /Win           95  Sports Illustrated Almanac *B  29
Gobliins 1                     39  Spyr Mouse Pads                 3
Gobliins 2                     39  Star Trek 25th Anniversary     59
Golden Immortal                25  Star Wars Chess *B             25
Goldilocks, 3 Bears: English   29  STAREware                      35
Goldilocks, 3 Bears: French    29  Stellar 7 *B                   25
Goldilocks, 3 Bears: Spanish   29  Storm #2                       29
Govt Giveaway for Entrepreneur 49  Storm #3, Adam & Eve Portfolio 39
Grade Builder A+               45  Street Atlas USA               95
Graphics Animation Festival    29  Tempra Access Imaging Software 25 
 
                SPYR INC  -  PO Box 89  -  Erie PA 16512 
 
         MENTION THIS ADD ON NETMAIL TO RECEIVE ABOVE PRICES
 
     Shipping: Add $3 for UPS Ground on any order.  COD, Add $4.50 
     Terms: VISA/MC/AMEX/Check/MO/COD.  Most Orders Ship same day.   
   No VISA/MC accepted outside US.  Must state age 21+ for adult cds. 
   Dealers: We're one of the largest suppliers around, call 4 prices.
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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 12302
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 02/20/94 11:49p
Subj: GREATEST CDROM PRICES 3/3               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Great Cities Of The World #1   29  Terminator 2, Chess Wars       39
Great Cities Of The World #2   29  Tetris Gold                    39
Great Cities Of The World1/Win 29  The 7th Guest                  49
Great Cities Of The World2/Win 29  The Barlow Affair: Teri Weigle 49
Greatest Childrens Stories     39  The Book Of Lists #3 /DOS *B   29
Groliers Encyc v6  DOS/MM *B   49  The Book Of Lists #3 MPC/MAC   35
Groliers Encyc v6 MPC/Win *B   49  The Dagger Of Amon Ra          49
Guinness Records /DOS *B       39  The Dagger Of Amon Ra *B       29
Guinness Records 93 /Win *B    29  The Devil in Miss Jones        49
GunShip 2000 w/Scenarios       45  The Grammy Awards              49
GunShip 2000 w/Scenerio's *B   29  The Grammy Awards *B           29
Guy Spy                        35  The Holy Bible, Christian SW   20
Halo Desktop Imager            25  The Maddams Family Movie       49
Hard Days Night - The Beatles  35  The Oregon Trail               49
Hell Cab /MPC                  59  The Prescription Pill Book CD  39
Hidden Obsessions /PC Movie    49  The Tortoise and the Hare      45
High Volume Nudes PC/MAC/Photo 39  The World Of Flight            29
Hobby Corner (Nature) vol #1   35  The World Of Trains            29
Hot Hunks, Male Image Fantasy  49  Things Change, My First Time   49
Humans                         29  Time Magazine: Desert Storm    39
Icons, Wallpaper & More        29  Timetable Art/Entertainment *B 29
Inca                           45  Timetable, History/Science *B  29
Indiana Jones,Fate Of Atlantis 49  TJ Finds a Friend              29
Inferno: Starring Teri Weigle  49  Tornado Flight Combat *B       29
InfoCom Lost Treasures #1      45  Total Baseball '93 DOS/MAC *B  29
InfoCom Lost Treasures #2      36  Total Baseball /Box            49
Int. Panasonic AT 562 CD-ROM  239  Total Fantasty                 29
Interactive Adult Sampler '93  15  Traci Lords I Love You! MPC/MA 39
Interactive Storytime #1 *B    29  Turtle Beach Maui Wavetable   179
Interactive Storytime #2 *B    29  Turtle Beach Multisound Card  579
Interactive Storytime #3 *B    29  U.S. Atlas for Windows         25
Interplay 10 Year Anthology    55  U.S. History                   29
Its a Bird Life WIN/MAC        39  U.S./World Atlas for Win *B    39
Jazz History /MM               55  UFO For Windows                45
Jazz History /MM *B            29  Ultima I..IV Series /Retail    59
Jones In The Fast Lane *B      29  Ultima Underworld I & II       59
Journeyman Project             49  Ultimate Shareware #2          25
Just Fonts, 250+ Fonts         25  US Presidents MPC *B           29
Just Grandma & Me /MPC         45  USA Today News                 59
Jutland - Ships Of Steel       49  USA Today News *B              29
Kathy Smiths Fat Burning Syst. 55  USA Tour w/Geography Game      39
Kawai FS-750 MIDI Keyboard    295  VGA Spectrum #2                20
Key Map for Windows (Softkey)  29  Video Blaster (Creative Labs) 349
Keyfonts Pro (Softkey) Win/MAC 29  Video Cube Space Game  /MPC    49
Kids Works 2                   39  Video Spigot (Creative Labs)  419
Kids Zoo                       55  Virtual Reality Starter Kit #1 49
Kings James Bible  /Box        25  Visual Fantasies               29
Kings Quest V *B               29  VocabuLearn French             49
Kings Quest VI                 55  VocabuLearn Spanish            49
Kings Quest VI *Upgrade        35  Wacky Funsters (Accolade)      29
Kodak Photo Access CD          20  Walnut Creek "C" Source Code   25
Labtec CS-180 Stereo Speakers  22  Walnut Creek 'La Coleccion     25
Labtec CS-550 Stereo Speakers  35  Walnut Creek AMINET; Amiga     20
Labyrinth of Time              55  Walnut Creek CICA Windows      20
Languages of the World         39  Walnut Creek Garbo Archive     20
Learn To Speak Eng From Italia 39  Walnut Creek GIFs Galore       24
Learn To Speak Eng From Span   39  Walnut Creek Giga Games        25
Learn To Speak Eng from Span   49  Walnut Creek Info-MAC          29
Learn To Speak Span From Eng.  39  Walnut Creek OS/2 Archive      20
Legend Of Kama Sutra           49  Walnut Creek QRZ! Ham Radio    20
Legend Of Kyrandia             45  Walnut Creek Simtel20          20
Legends Of Porn II  PC/MAC     45  Who Killed Sam Rupert? *B      22
Lifestyle,Rich/Famous Cookbook 35  Who Killed Sam Rupert? /Box    29
Lightning CD Cache, DOS/WIN    69  Windows 1993 Collection        29
LineLink 14.4k Modem          129  Windows 3.1, Recording Session 45
Loom *B                        29  Windows Master                 20
Lord Of The Rings              49  Windows Plus                   25
Lost in Time                   29  Windows Shareware Gold         25
Lovely Ladies II               49  Wing Command/Ultima Underworld 55
Luscious Ladies                39  Wing Commander I Deluxe        35
Lyric Language: French         39  Wing Commander II Deluxe       35
Lyric Language: Spanish        39  Wing Commander/Ultima VI *B    29
MacMillan Dict For Child *B    25  Wing Commander/Ultima VI /Box  39
MacMillan Dict. for Children   49  Wolf Pack                      39
Mad Dog McCree                 39  Women Of Venus                 39
Manhole Game for Kids /Box     35  World Atlas v4 for Windows *B  25
Mantis, 21st Space Fighter *B  29  World Of Ham Radio             39
Mario is Missing Deluxe        29  World Of Shareware 3-CD Set    39
Mavis Beacon Typing /MM        29  Wrath Of The Demon *B          29
Mayo Clinic "The Total Heart"  39  Wrath Of The Demon /Box        39
 
                SPYR INC  -  PO Box 89  -  Erie PA 16512 
 
         MENTION THIS ADD ON NETMAIL TO RECEIVE ABOVE PRICES
 
     Shipping: Add $3 for UPS Ground on any order.  COD, Add $4.50 
     Terms: VISA/MC/AMEX/Check/MO/COD.  Most Orders Ship same day.   
   No VISA/MC accepted outside US.  Must state age 21+ for adult cds. 
   Dealers: We're one of the largest suppliers around, call 4 prices.
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From: DAVE MARTIN                            Number: 12303
  To: RICK AURAS                               Date: 02/21/94  9:36p
Subj: CD-ROM SOFTWARE WANTED                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RA>I am looking to purchase the following CD-Software:

RA>Loom

        Rick, I have Loom for sale. How about $20 including shipping?

        +------+
        | Dave |
        +------+


 * OLX 2.1 TD * Perot of Borg:  Resistance?  Now that's just sad.


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From: ERIC LUZUM                             Number: 12304
  To: AUDIE VICKERS                            Date: 02/21/94 10:05p
Subj: Bbii                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

@ORIGIN :Brockport After Work (716) 637-6663 (1:2613/379)            N i was
wondering if the disk is still for sale, and if so, at what price?


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From: JERRY JOHNSON                          Number: 12305
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94  1:43p
Subj: Adult disc for trade                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

	I have the Adult Disc Moving Fantasies for trade for another
	adult disc.  This disc is all short movie and amateur clips -
	gl, dl, and fli files.

	Respond here please.

		Jerry
    Blue Wave/QWK v2.10

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From: JERRY JOHNSON                          Number: 12306
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94  2:10p
Subj: CD's for sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

	I have the following for sale or trade - all have full
	docs and registration.

	Microsoft Golf MPC - $35.00

	Dune - full motion vide - $35.00

	7th Guest - 2 disc set - with video - full retail version $30.00

	Aldus PhotoStyler SE - came with Omni CD - $60.00

	Software Toolworks MPC Encyclopedia (Groliers) $25.00

	Multimedia Madness - Book and CD - 5.25" disk and CD Rom - Demos,
		presentations,photos,vides,music,midi, applications,etc
		reatail $44.95  --  asking $22.50

	Vitual Reality Madness - full retail versions of Virtual Reality
	Studio and Vistapro ($200.00 value) plus demos, shareware, etc -
	asking $22.50

	Walkthroughs and Flybys - terrific animations and demos with
	sounblaster support -over 500 meg asking $17.50

Willing to trade for:

	Rebel Assault

	Educational CD's
	
	Adult CD's

	Simms - 70ns or better

	Hard Drive - 120 meg or better

	Audio Equipment

	Make me an offer
	
Each to pay his own shipping on trades or add $2.95 to purchases.

	I can be reached at 214-658-2247 6:00 a.m. to 5:30 P.M. cst

		Thanks,
		Jerry

... "What?!? This isn't the Files section?!?"
    Blue Wave/QWK v2.10

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From: JERRY JOHNSON                          Number: 12307
  To: S                                        Date: 02/21/94  3:44p
Subj: cdroms for trade or sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

ME>Hello All!

ME>We have the following CDs that we would like to trade or sell....
  >Digital Dreams Vol 1
  >NightOwls Vol 9

 I will trade Moving Fantasies for it -  all animations.

        Jerry


 * QMPro 1.52 * All rising to a great place is by a winding stair.

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From: JERRY JOHNSON                          Number: 12308
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/21/94  3:46p
Subj: Adult CD discs to trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN>Have the following adult discs to trade for other adult discs:

RN>Storm III
  >Adult Reference Library

RN>Randy


RN> * QMPro 1.52 * I have NOT lost my mind. It's ZIPped up somewhere!


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        How about Moving Fantasies for Storm III?

        Jerry


 * QMPro 1.52 * All rising to a great place is by a winding stair.

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From: B.A. CROWELL                           Number: 12309
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/21/94  6:19p
Subj: Pioneer CD Drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike,
     I'm interested in purchasing a Pioneer 6 CD Drive.  I heard that the
DMX600 was discontinued.  True?  If so how much is the 604.  Can you recommend
6 CDs for BBS use?
                                             Thanks,
                                               B.A. Crowell

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From: GARY MULLETT                           Number: 12310
  To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                       Date: 02/21/94 10:18a
Subj: Hot Pics 1                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JD>I am looking for the CD Hot Pics 1 (or was it HOT PIX 1).  Anyway, if you
JD>have a copy of it and you would like to sell it, name your price.

Have a copy of Nix Pix Hot Pix 1.  Price $ 75.00 plus shipping.

If interested, reply via message or call voice (210) 658-0771.
   
 * OLX 2.2 * I don't do taglines.

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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12311
  To: KEVIN BURNS                              Date: 02/21/94  4:21a
Subj: REBEL IS ON THE WAY                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

KB> Just thought I'd let you know that I put Rebel Assault in the mail
KB> First Class this morning. You *should* get it by 2/22 (Tues) or 2/23
KB> (Wed). Who knows you may get it even before you get this message.

Kevin, guess you did not get my earlier msg about already closing an
earlier deal.  Guess I made a mess here, sorry.  Here's how I can fix
it.

I no longer have the Bodacious Beauties as stated in my last msg.  But,
I do have others.

I can keep your RA and send you TWO discs (Storm III and Adult Reference
Library), both adult.  Each sell for over $30 each.  I will then sell or
trade your disc myself.
                                  or

I will send your RA back to you with enough $ to cover your postage so
you don't lose any money on this.

Please respond ASAP.  Once again, sorry for any problem

Randy

 * QMPro 1.52 * Retired: Don't ask me to do a damn thing!


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From: RANDY NEUNER                           Number: 12312
  To: NEWS                                     Date: 02/21/94  4:49a
Subj: RE: JEWISH LAW (WAS: I DO               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To: NEWS
Subject: RE: JEWISH LAW (WAS: I DO

N>Xref: netcomsv alt.feminism:31196 alt.sex:42564 soc.women:24136 soc.men:29257
N>soc.culture.jewish:34009
N>Newsgroups: alt.feminism,alt.sex,soc.women,soc.men,soc.culture.jewish
N>Path:
N>netcomsv!cds8604!uunet!imagen!rpal.rockwell.com!headwall.Stanford.EDU!agate!m
N>i
N>fo!netnews.upenn.edu!netnews.noc.drexel.edu!giamo.ocs.drexel.edu!giamomj
N>From: Mike G. <giamomj@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu>
N>Subject: Re: Jewish law (was: I don't like this subject name)
N>Message-ID: <1994Feb18.220605.29428@netnews.noc.drexel.edu>
N>X-Xxmessage-Id: <A98AA67E0B020830@giamo.ocs.drexel.edu>
N>X-Xxdate: Fri, 18 Feb 94 17:08:14 GMT
N>Sender: news@netnews.noc.drexel.edu
N>Organization: Drexel University
N>X-Useragent: Version 1.1.3
N>References: <2k01u0$31g@netnews.upenn.edu> <2k2imr$2og@netnews.upenn.edu>
N>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 22:06:05 GMT
N>Lines: 15

N>In article <2k2imr$2og@netnews.upenn.edu> Matthew P Wiener,
N>weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu writes:
N>>No it's not.  Mutilation is the rendering of a body part non-functional
N>>or seriously damaged.
N>>
N>>Calling circumcision mutilation is pure propaganda.

N>And denying it's absurdity as a routine procedure on neonates who are
N>non-Jewish is self serving!
N>So there.....


N>*"More tears are shed over answered prayers than unanswered ones."*

N>                                             - St. Theresa of Avila

Sorry for so much quoting.  Hope the moderator sees all this BS from
Internet or wherever it came from.  Don't want or need all this!

Randy

 * QMPro 1.52 * Few know what the fork we are serving up...


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From: JASON DARPA                            Number: 12313
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94 10:41a
Subj: Cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do they make Elite CD's?? If so, is anyone selling them, I am interested..

Odie

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 12314
  To: SCOTT WEEMS                              Date: 02/20/94  6:44p
Subj: Computer & Hardware                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will take one of the 80 meg Maxtors for the asking price if it is an IDE
drive.

Please let me know.

thanks
Scott

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 12315
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 02/20/94  6:44p
Subj: CD-ROM catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > If you like to be in our mailing list ot receive our
 > latest catalog and special offers, please call or
 > write to

 > GroupWare
 > 4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
 > Tacoma, WA 98409
 > Tel 1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
 > Fax 1-206-473-1634 or 1-800-277-5179

 > --- DB 1.53/002199
 >  * Origin: GroupWare-Voice:1-800-373-0628
 > Fax:1-206-473-1634 (1:138/116)


Please send me your catalog to:

Scott Raley
P.O.Box 66
Ridge, MD 20680

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 12316
  To: ED STILSON                               Date: 02/20/94  6:46p
Subj: X-RATED? WHAT'S BEST?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > well... to get ya started... there is a little sampler
 > disk.... it is called adult sampler... Call InfoTech
 > Computer Services (614) 385-8829....
 > The price on the adult sampler $10.00


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Do ya have an address?

Scott

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 12317
  To: ROBERT KUMMER                            Date: 02/20/94  6:51p
Subj: CD's For Trade or Sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will trade you SEedy Rom #6 for Private Pictures.

Let me know if you are interested.

Thanks
Scott

PS, or call/netmail the bbs below..

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 12318
  To: JIGER DESAI                              Date: 02/20/94  6:53p
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I will give you $35 for Rebel Assault with docs and registration card.

Let me know.

thanks
Scott

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 12319
  To: EDDIE IMPERIAL                           Date: 02/20/94  6:54p
Subj: Cd Trades!                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If extreme delights is adult, I will take it for $15 shipped to me.

thanks
Scott

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 12320
  To: BOB FISHER                               Date: 02/20/94  6:57p
Subj: BOB' CD ROM CENTER                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 > NEW & GOOD SELECTION OF CD ROM DISC. PRICES FROM $4.95
 > TO $44.95.
 > PICK FROM IN STOCK OR SPECIAL ORDER.
 > BOB'S CD ROM CENTER
 > 337 STATE ST.
 > CHARLOTTE, MICHIGAN 48813-1735
 > 517 543-9690 (VOICE OR FAX)

 > ALSO GOOD PLACE TO TEST YOUR FAX PROGRAM. FROM 11-5
 > MON.-SAT.

 > --- T.A.G. 2.6f3b Beta
 >  * Origin: The Abacus  * v.32 * (517)645-7343 * Node 3
 > (1:159/100)


Please send a price list/ catalog to:

Scott Raley
P.O.Box 66
Ridge, MD 20680-0066

Thanks
Scott

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 12321
  To: ADAM BRIAND                              Date: 02/20/94  6:58p
Subj: Used & NEW CDs                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Are you selling the Foxes cd??  If so I am interested.
Please let me kknow.

thanks
Scot

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 12322
  To: J.H.COOK                                 Date: 02/20/94  7:05p
Subj: CDS                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I recieved your cds about 2 days ago, but cannot find hte message which I am
supposed to send back?  Busty BabesI, storm I, digital dreams, private pics,
which ones?

Thanks
Scott

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From: MERLOCK THE GREAT                      Number: 12323
  To: ZEN                                      Date: 02/21/94 12:52a
Subj: Logoff message                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

If enough people start playing I will get it registered.
                                                                -MtG

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From: RICHARD ANDERSON                       Number: 12324
  To: FRANK CIRILLO JR.                        Date: 02/21/94  5:17a
Subj: cd's trade/sell                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> Have the following cd's to trade or sell for your cd's. adult or regu
->
-> Visual Fantasies  Adult cd.   $27.00
->
-> Will consider any reasonable trade or cash offer for the above cd's.
->  is to be  paid by each.
->                         302-674-4537

How bout trading this for Comton's Enclcopedia and Microsoft Bookshelf?

Let me know here or call me at my bbs 702 457-5483

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From: BYRON KROHN                            Number: 12325
  To: STEVE O'BRIEN                            Date: 02/20/94  6:56p
Subj: Re: Best CDROM Prices                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Not to butt in but to butt in:

SO> How up-to-date (manufacturing date or data date) is FireArms
SO>Reference?? VERY INTERESTED!
                                        very
Don't bother, The Firearms Reference is a ^ poorly done compilation of 
SOME catalog sheets. It is incomplete, amaturish, erronious and totally 
worthless. Other than that it's ok.

                                     Regards,    Byron--


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From: FRED ROREX                             Number: 12326
  To: MALIBU                                   Date: 02/21/94 10:39a
Subj: New User Message                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

19-Feb-94 17:47, Malibu wrote to Glenn Crawford
          Subject: New User Message

 M> I'll get your account validated right away!  Have fun browsing the 
 M> Liberator.  
 M> If you have any questions or would like to see anything added to the 
 M> BBS...feel 
 M> free to ask.  
 M>                    - MALIBU -
 M> 
 M> -!- T.A.G. 2.6f Standard
 M>  - Origin: Liberator BBS (1:124/4006)
 M> 
 M> 

Malibu,
Please fix your system so it doesn't toss local feedback messages to a
national based echo. This is like the second or third one.
Thanks
Fred

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 12327
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/21/94  5:47p
Subj: Sent the disc yet                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 RN> You should have rec my returned disc by the time 
 RN> you read this.  Did you
 RN> send the Software Vault #4 Platinum yet?  Hope so 
 RN> as I need to put a new
 RN> disc on-line.
 
It is on the way.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 12328
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94  5:51p
Subj: Best $19 1993 CDROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

           That's right a great SHAREWARE ROM
                   for ONLY $19.00
 
Big Sky Rom's newest release, TopDrawer, is now shipping.
For you who have pre-ordered, your's is on the way. Yeah,
I know.  What kind of ROM could I be getting for 19 bucks?
 
                       ANSWER
 
        Possibly the best ROM you have to date!
 
This ROM is published by SysOps for the SysOp.  Tired of
compiling list and heaven knows what else to get a ROM
on-line?
 
This is the answer you have been waiting for, affordable
files at this introductory price, to show what TopDrawer
is and can do.
 
Files.bbs in every DIR, so simple it can be run on a test
drive of QMODEM (tm). Plus SPITFIRE (tm) files SFFILES.BBS.
And you 4DOS (tm) users will find descript.ion files.
If you're a PC-BOARD(tm) SysOp, you'll find a comprehensive
SETMEUP.exe that will install the ROM for you! (...You do
have to have it in the CD-ROM player!) grin........
All archives are compressed using pkzip (PKWARE (tm) 204G
using maximum compression.
All archives and their members have been scanned with the
latest virus scanners.
 
All files have file_id.diz's in them, GOOD ONE's, at that;
we added over 1,859 full descriptions when none were available
or the author thought that high ASCII looked better.
 
And on TOP of all that, we have made a great effort to remove
commercial files and other copyright infringements.
Now, what this means is that we set this ROM up for the BBS,
not the end user!!!!
 
We have, because of current legal cases and judgments within the
publishing community, removed VOC, WAVE, and MIDI sound files. The
real programs are still there; we just deleted the lawyer syndrome.
All of the GIF's are our own, no copyright infringements to worry
about. You are licensed as the ROM owner to distribute them to your
users.  Disnay has started bringing lawsuits against the publisher's
who have any of their pictures on their CDs and many of the latest
have them.  Warner will be bringing lawsuits against the publisher's
that have Startrek sound and picture files and many of the latest
shareware CDs have those.  So, Buyers and Sellers Beware!
 
There is also a feature authors DIR.  That's the authors we felt
exhibited professional demeanor in program ability and distribution
ease.  Plus, we have the text files that are the latest rage -- that
is, we have STEVE ROBERTS stuff, NOT Megabytes of FAQ's or other
drivel. We have taken great pains to think of the user and the SysOp.
You will find your users cruising through this easy file system and
praising you for the setup (that is, if you have great users like we
do).
 
Both the SuperMart BBS and PC-MONTANA BBS have handicapped users,
and thought went into the files and their placement to enhance the
interface for these special individuals.
 
Ok, now to the brass tacks:  Files -- there are 4,174;that's 609 MB +
compressed.  Dirs -- no, not 50 or 60, just 45 ; and this ROM will
interface with our first release, BIG SKY 01, so you don't have to do
a major setup all over again!
 
You've probably heard other SysOps saying that they're removing such &
such ROM offline because of one problem or another. We listen to these
SysOps; you are our bread and butter (low cost spread in this ROM's price).
 
Now, where can I get this ROM?  Well, read below and you can order
this baby on-line or by fax (24 hours) or by voice (9-9 EST Mon-Sat).
 
*** PCJ COMPUTING ***   Data  -  1-615-478-2890   We stock 700+ titles
  All major credit      Fax   -  1-615-479-1047   Lowest prices around
  cards accepted        Voice -  1-615-339-0235   Download BIGSKY2.ZIP
  with no surcharge     Orders-  1-800-547-7817   for the files list.
  (No CODs)           Internet-  Douglas.Carpenter@Junction.Cld9.Com
                      Listserv-  Send request to Listserv@Cld9.Com
                                 Send SUB CDROM-L NAME
                     Compuserve-  71754.3514@Compuserve.Com
                      **  DEALER INQUIRIES WELCOME **
 
File stats for the BEST NEW SHAREWARE CD-TOP DRAWER for 1990 to 1994:
    File   %    Apx  'K'   %            File   %    Apx 'K'    %
    ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== =====
90     0  0.0%         0  0.0%    91       1  0.0%       100  0.0%
92     6  0.1%     2,380  0.4%    93   3,968 95.1%   558,536 91.6%
94   144  4.8%    48,607  8.0%          ==== =====  ======== =====
----  Total Files:  4,174   Total Approx 'K' Bytes:  609,523  ----
Duplicate Files Comparison - Top Drawer versus other popular CDs:
 
Big Sky 1 - 0%                  So Much Shareware # 3 - 2.4%
Cream of the Crop # 2 - 11.7%   Software Vault Gold (# 3) - 10.3%
Nightowl 10 - 12.4%             Call PCJ at 615-339-0235 if you
Nightowl 11 - 6.4%              need a file comparison with any

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 12329
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94  7:17p
Subj: Feb'94 OS/2 CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the 8th edition of
its OS/2 CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The February 1994 CD-ROM has
500 selected products and the best directory database and search
program in the business. $25 special "net" price includes 2nd CDROM w
copy of a 145,000 record PC products database.
Voice:+1(301)924-3594, Fax:+1(301)963-2708.
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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 12330
  To: RICHARD ANDERSON                         Date: 02/22/94 12:50p
Subj: cd's trade/sell                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Richard - what years are the compton's and the bookshelf and how much do you
want for them?  Jerry

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From: DAVID HILL                             Number: 12331
  To: MICHAEL HARRIS                           Date: 02/21/94 10:45p
Subj: Photo cd                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 MH> What do I need to run to be able to use my photo cd drive's ability, I 
 MH> there are photo cd's out but do I need drivers or something and what can 
 MH> expect to be able to do with the photos once I'm viewing them?

 MH> My drive is a Mitsumi Double Speed MPC2. Thanks.

Michael.... The only thing you need is the photo CD.
If you buy a demo CD (available most anywhere for under $20), it will usually
have the photo's in 256 color, as well as 24-bit colr (16.7 million colors)
If you want to view the 24-bit pics, you will of course need a 24-bit VGA
card. 
Hope this helps.
 
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From: DEREK STUTSMAN                         Number: 12332
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/21/94  8:16p
Subj: Adult CD discs to trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN>Have the following adult discs to trade for other adult discs:

RN>Storm III
RN>Adult Reference Library

Randy,

I will trade you "101 Sex Positions Pt 2" for Storm III.  It's got probably 
an hour of FMV movies, along with stills.  Reply netmail if interested!



Derek Stutsman
 * Wave Rider 1.10 # 153 *
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From: JIM BECKHAM                            Number: 12333
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/22/94  8:08a
Subj: MAC CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Mike Shannon wrote in a message to Jim Beckham:

MS> Garbo by Walnut Creek is around 50/50 Mac and DOS shareware,

Garbo contains outdated files. I'll look into Otherware.

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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 12334
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 02/22/94  2:23p
Subj: wanted...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Anyone got copies of the Toolworks CD Game Packs 1 and/or 2 they want to
sell at a reasonable rate?  I would like to get ahold of one or both.

Thanks
Eric Bravick
USF 3008
4202 E. Fowler Ave.
Tampa, FL. 33620-3008

(813) 985-9619 (Voice)
(813) 985-9723 (BBS)
FIDO Netmail 1:377/53.0
Internet: bravick@luna.cas.usf.edu


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From: MIKE WILSON                            Number: 12335
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/19/94 11:34p
Subj: culinary cd                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

    i was wondering if anyone out there had the latest Better Homes &
Gardens Cooakbook on cd rom...last time i say it was around X-Mas and i
haven't seen it since....so if anyone is looking to get rid of their's
or knows what company makes them and can send me one drop me a line here

                                       Mike Wilson

p.s. this is not a joke...8-)


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From: RICHARD BUNTON                         Number: 12336
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/22/94 10:02a
Subj: Mixed Up Mother Goose                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the factory release version, (not a jewel case), of Mixed Up 
Mother Goose I would like to trade for anything interesting.

Make me an offer I can't refuse.

Disc for disc...You send yours...And I'll send mine.

Richard Bunton
311 Grand
Belton, Mo. 64012-1432

Reply here if you have anything.


         *************             ***************
 *********  Richard  *********     *  ** * * * * *
         *************             ***************

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From: RICHARD BUNTON                         Number: 12337
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 02/22/94 10:45a
Subj: Top Drawer $19                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

*******  Original Msg. From: Jim Lambert  To: All  *******

JL*  Files.bbs in every DIR, so simple it can be run on a test drive
JL* of QMODEM (tm). Plus SPITFIRE (tm) files SFFILES.BBS. And you 4DOS
JL* (tm) users will find descript.ion files.
  *****************************************************************************

Jim...I am a registered owner of QModem v1.51, (the latest version)...
and if you can tell me, (in detail...). how to run this disc with
QModem Host, I'll buy it in an instant.
And thank you mightily. ~***..***~

BTW...My wife...Make that my EX-Wife and Daughter live in Ozark...
Been there all their lives.   ~***..***~

If you ever run across any Bunton's from Ozark...Tell them I said Hi. 

Anyway...to save time If it will run with QModem...
Just send the Disc to:

Richard Bunton
311 Grand
Belton, Mo. 64012-1432

Phone: (816)-331-8296

And I will send you a check forthwith. for ninteen dollars + S&H.

PS. I read the following after I wrote this message...

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 BBS: Sound Advice  (816) 436-4516
Date: 02-21-94 (00:35)              Number: 17713
  To: RANDY NEUNER                  Refer#: NONE                (Msg #57 of 59)
From: MIKE SHANNON                    Read: NO
Subj: Top Drawer problem.           Status: PUBLIC MSG
Conf: CDRom_Sale (1032)          Direction: FORWARD                      (Read)
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	C:\15.TXT                                
  Could that be the problem and what does that
RN:>mean?
______________________________T_E_A_R__L_I_N_E_____________________________

I have a Panasonic Double Speed...

I know there was a problem with the early Mitsumi's, (I had one...),
with large discs.

Would there be any problems in this regard.???

I doubt very seriously if there would be.

         *************             ***************
 *********  Richard  *********     *  ** * * * * *
         *************             ***************

 * DeLuxe2/386 1.25 #3885 * Man with hand in bush...Not necessarily trimming
shrubs
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From: BRIAN WOODBURY                         Number: 12338
  To: JOHN STEFFES                             Date: 02/22/94 12:09p
Subj: CD Bundle for SALE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I can offer $40 shipped. If no other offer comes your way and you want to do it
keep me in mind. 713-562-1561

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 12339
  To: TRACY MICKLEY                            Date: 02/22/94 10:24p
Subj: 6 PACK CADDY WANTED                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Pioneer Changer uses regular music changer Caddy. You can locate
them thru Silo, Circuit City or other audio stores. They should
cost around $12 each. I do buy them for my Pioneer 18 CD-Audio
Changer. TTYL
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From: CRAIG WATSON                           Number: 12340
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/22/94  7:21p
Subj: Cd-Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anyone have a CD-Rom out there that they are selling.  I am in the market
for one and would like to know what you have.  Thanks.

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From: MICHAEL COX                            Number: 12341
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94  9:45a
Subj:                                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

anyone have the Wired for Sound 3.0 CD-ROM?

anyone have any success getting the .WAV files to play with anything 
BESIDES the WFS program?

what the heck kinda format are they using? most of the .WAV files will 
LOAD into Windows Player, but the "play" button is greyed out, and in 
Catsplayer, it just says "unknown sound format"...

thanks...
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From: DEREK STUTSMAN                         Number: 12342
  To: VIC HLUSHAK                              Date: 02/23/94 12:23a
Subj: Medical CD's                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Vh>Hi ALL,

Vh>I am looking for medical cd's.  I m interested in the kind that doctors
Vh>would use in a practise.  If anyone sells this type of cd or know of an
Vh>address'smplease leave a msg.

Well, Vic, I have heard about a CD-Rom that helps med-students study.  
Might be good for refesher material.  (Sorry, don't know the title.)

There is also a product called "Pharm-Assist" that helps with common drugs 
and illnesses.  This may be what you are looking for.



Derek Stutsman
 * Wave Rider 1.10 # 153 *
... "I am the 2nd greatest computer in the universe." 
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From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                     Number: 12343
  To: GARY MULLETT                             Date: 02/22/94  9:28p
Subj: Hot Pics 1                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GM> Have a copy of Nix Pix Hot Pix 1.  Price $ 75.00 plus
GM> shipping.

GM> If interested, reply via message or call voice (210)
GM> 658-0771.

Sold.  I'll call you voice in the morning. 

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From: EVAN LIM                               Number: 12344
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 02/11/94  4:44p
Subj: What game?                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=ð Evan Lim saw this & so he replied ð=-

 TW:>Yep. I've been up to my ears in getting the new game finished. I have
 TW:>one last shoot to do (Feb 13th) with five lovely ladies who want to take
 TW:>their clothes off to make computing history. Some folks who've previewed
 TW:>the game say it's the most amazing illusion in digital video. Some of
 TW:>Apple's QT developers wanted to know how we did a couple of the tricks.

What game is this you are talking about?  I might want to purchase one
of these from your description!  ;)  EL

... You Klingon sons, you've killed my bastard... no, wait.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: ALLAN STEVENSON-YOUNG                  Number: 12345
  To: DON ARSENEAU                             Date: 02/23/94  5:47a
Subj: DIRTY TALK WITH WOMEN                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

             * * * This message was from NEWS to ALL * * *
   * * * and has been forwarded to you by ALLAN STEVENSON-YOUNG * * *
            -----------------------------------------------

Newsgroups: alt.sex
Path:
netcomsv!cds8604!uunet!uchinews!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.ne
tt!cunews!freenet.carleton.ca!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!ai462
From: ai462@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Bob Garagan)
Subject: Dirty talk with women
Message-ID: <CLFLFo.DoC@freenet.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@freenet.carleton.ca
Organization: The National Capital FreeNet, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 17:47:48 GMT
Lines: 5


I would love to engage in dirty talk with women, any interested?


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    FLAME v1.0

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There seems to be alot of crossed up messages in this conference, this
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From: JOHN SMITH                             Number: 12346
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/23/94  6:13a
Subj: Misc. For Sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

   Please reply either in this echo, by NetMail to 1:2613/730, or call me
at (716) 728-2264, and leave a message on my machine if I am not home -- 
I will call you back as soon as I get home.

Price does NOT include shipping.

1 Beehive 3270-MS Mainframe Hub Controller - Good Condition.       
  I think that this is part of a System 36/400 system.  Unit powers up and
  will operate (I tried to use it with PC Anywhere, but this type of   
  display was not supported so the screen display was not correct -- it   
  did work, though, passing characters back and forth so I know it is not 
  DOA).
  PRICE:  $30.00 or best offer PLUS shipping.

1 Excercise Bike
  Stationary, non-wheel type.  Takes little space.  In good condition.
  PRICE:  $10.00 or best offer (prefer to sell locally) PLUS shipping.

1 Chrysler Factory AM/FM Stereo Car Radio.  Radio was taken out of our
  1988 Dodge Caravan to put in Cassette stereo.  It works very well, and
  has the factory connectors, faceplate, knobs, etc.
  PRICE:  $30.00 firm PLUS shipping.

1 Goldstar Refrigerator - Approximately 2 to 3 cubic foot capacity.  The
  small freezer section is large enough for a quart of ice cream.  Works 
  good.  Operates on AC current only.
  PRICE:  $40.00 firm PLUS shipping.

1 Hoover Electric Broom vacuum cleaner.  Works great, only used 4 or
  5 times.  Selling because my wife bought a bigger vacuum for the 
  whole house.
  PRICE:  $20.00 firm PLUS shipping.

1 DEAD Tandon 30 mb MFM Hard Drive                    
  Model TM703.  5 heads, 695 cylinders.  Drive spins up, then shuts down  
  and disk light blinks three times in sequence at 5 second intervals.    
  Probably disk electronics problem.  AS IS!
  PRICE:  $10.00 or best offer PLUS shipping.

1 DEAD Tandy VM-5 Monochrome Monitor
  Unit does not power up, no display.  Scratches on front of case.  AS IS.
  PRICE:  $10.00 or best offer PLUS shipping.

1 DEAD Tandy CM-5 CGA Monitor
  Unit powers up, but no display.  Case in mint condition.  AS IS.
  PRICE:  $15.00 or best offer PLUS shipping.

1 Radio Shack TRS-80 Color Computer - Has 16 kb of RAM, works well.  This
  is a small, console type unit that comes with it's own RF modulator so 
  it can be hooked up to your home TV.  Good for younger kids to teach 
  beginning computer fundamentals.
  PRICE:  $10.00 firm PLUS shipping.

1 Dual 8-inch Floppy Disk Drive.
  This monster (50 pounds!) seems to be in good condition, but I have
  no way to test it.  Has its own internal power supply and comes with
  the cables it needs to hook it up.
  PRICE:  $ 25.00 or best offer PLUS SHIPPING.

Registered version of WinSF/BBS for Windows, version 1.5, which was
written by me in Borland C.  I will personalize this copy for the buyer.
This is a Windows front end for multi-node Spitfire 3.3 boards, allowing
virtually any maintenance function supported by Spitfire to be used
directly from Windows without having to tie up a node on the board.  Uses
file locking & sharing, so you can edit the file areas while users are on
line, etc.  Will control up to 10 Spitfire nodes running as child
processes.
PRICE: $30.00 firm PLUS shipping -- Unlimited number Of Packages.

Lotus 1-2-3 For Windows version 1.0 with upgrade disk for version 1.1 and
the SMARTPAK add-on utilities from Lotus.  All manuals included, and will
provide a letter of registration transfer.
PRICE: $40.00 firm PLUS shipping -- 1 Package.

AmiPro 2.0 Graphical Word Processor For Windows.  All manuals included,
and will provide a letter of registration transfer.  Will also throw in
the Lotus style sheet & macros for writing Windows Help files.
PRICE: $50.00 firm PLUS shipping -- 1 Package.

Quicken For Windows, version 1.0.  All manuals included, and will provide
a letter of registration transfer.
PRICE: $10.00 firm PLUS shipping -- 1 Package.

======================== PROGRAMMING BOOKS ======================

Title:  "Advanced Turbo C"
Author:  Schildt
Publisher:  Osborne/ McGraw-Hill
Original Price:  $22.95
ASKING PRICE:  $11.50 or best offer PLUS shipping.
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Title:  "Graphics In C"
Author:  Johnson
Publisher:  Osborne/ McGraw-Hill
Original Price:  $24.95
ASKING PRICE:  $12.50 or best offer PLUS shipping.
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Title:  "OS/2 Programmer's Guide"
Author:  Iacobucci
Publisher:  Osborne/ McGraw-Hill
Original Price:  $24.95
ASKING PRICE:  $12.50 or best offer PLUS shipping.
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From: BRIAN COSTIGAN                         Number: 12347
  To: LAUREN WOODHAMS                          Date: 02/22/94 12:00a
Subj: CD-ROMS for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LW>Anyone interested in expanding into CD-ROM and is looking for a CD-ROM
  >drive let me know.  I can give you a quote on a drive and also help out
  >if you are looking for software.


Hi, Im looking for a good drive to put with my SB 16 SCSI-2 sound card,
i dont know alot about CD ROMS so any info would be appreciated, let me
know what kind of price with model name and number, thanks.........

___
 X QMPro 1.52 X WILDCAT! BBS X QmodemPro X Off-Line Xpress: Perfection!

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From: BRIAN COSTIGAN                         Number: 12348
  To: GEORGE SLUPSKI                           Date: 02/22/94 12:00a
Subj: Nec 3x Cd Rom Drives                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

GS>Just installed a NEC 3xi in a 486 33  and it hums along.  Only one
  >problem.  NEC customer service.  The 3xi uses a SB 16 SCSI interface in
  >my setup and I was hoping to have the CD Audio play through my amplified
  >speakers.  The problem?  No audio cable to connect between the drive and
  >the SB16 audio in. Called NECCustomer Service and they said a cable
  >would be $11 with a $4 dollar "up-charge" since the order was under $15
  >and then another $6 for shipping and handling.  I think $21 is a little
  >steep for a cable that should have come with the drive.  I wonder what
  >their meaning of customer service really is?

 I seen the cable you are talking about at COMP-USA (if you have one
around you) for 10 bucks....Hope this helps...

___
 X QMPro 1.52 X WILDCAT! BBS X QmodemPro X Off-Line Xpress: Perfection!

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From: DOUG WARREN                            Number: 12349
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/22/94  5:06p
Subj: Diags/Utilities                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Does anybody know of a cd rom that contains diagnostics, utilities, tutorials
for pc's. I bought one called PC-Medic but most of the files are 1990 or 1991.
With a 486, most benchmarks and diags do not give true readings with programs
written a couple yrs back.
Thanks in advance.
Doug Warren

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From: TIM CLUNE                              Number: 12350
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/22/94  7:25p
Subj: CD-ROMs                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello All!

I'm looking for Internal CD-ROM drives that are compatible with
SoundBlaster 16 cards. These drives are made by Panasonic, double speed,
MPC2 compiant. If anyone has one of these units that you want to unload,
let me know.

Tim

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From: LEW MURRAY                             Number: 12351
  To: DAVID SARGEANT                           Date: 02/22/94  5:39a
Subj: ProPhone                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

DS>I want some information on the new ProPhone CD-ROMs.  Are they like
DS>PhoneDisc USA?  And is it one of those deals where you can only look up
DS>a certain number of people and then you have to re-register it?  And
DS>what does it have on it-just phone numbers, or addreses too?  Any
DS>information is appreciated.  Also I'm looking for something like Street
DS>Atlas USA, and also a CD with GIFs and MODs on it.

ProPhone has great software.  But the data STINKS.  They claim that it
is updated every quarter but some entries are AT LEAST five years old.
I looked up a client and the address and number they show was changed in
1988.  They are also VERY incomplete.  I looked up the street address of
an apartment complex with over 100 units.  It showed 13 listings.
Looked up attorneys in the 504 area code with the name last name of
Murray. There are at least four that have been in practice for LONGER
than five years.  It didn't show any.  These are NOT isolated examples.
They are the FIRST THINGS I tried.

Lew
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From: EBEN HOLIDAY                           Number: 12352
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94  5:23p
Subj: CD ROMs for Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I have the following for sale:

Battlechess Enhanced CD $22.90
Mantis/Civilization $20.00
Where in the World is Carmen San Diego Deluxe $32.90
Space Shuttle CD $27.90
Stellar 7 $15.00

All CD Roms list sale includes S&H.  E-mail or better yet call me at work
209-955-7523 or home 209-478-9934.  Thanks.

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From: JASON CROPPER                          Number: 12353
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/21/94 10:10p
Subj: Re: Rebel Assult on a 386               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Randy Neuner was blabbing to All about Rebel Assult on a 386sx-1 . . .
 
 RN> Anyone know if Rebel Assult will play on a 386SX-16 with 4mb of ram
 RN> and a single speed drive?

Yes, it will, but you'll hate it!

        -Jason


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From: KELLY KIMBALL                          Number: 12354
  To: JASON KLANK                              Date: 02/21/94 11:05a
Subj: CD ROM Changers?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

-> I have a used Pioneer DRM-600A that I'm willing to part with.  It's a
-> disc changer. 150K data transfer rate, I get access speeds of around
-> so, and it takes no more than 5 secs to change discs.  It has all the
-> switches on the back of the drive for easy access.
->
-> I'm willing to part with it, in original box with docs and 1 6-disc c
-> for $550 plus shipping.  This unit has been hardly used.
->
-> Jason

I am interested in this changer also. I was wondering if you would be
interested in a Intel 486 DX/33 microprocessor as partial payment. I
also have a couple of hard drives. A Conner CP 30084 80 meg, and a
Seagate ST 1144A 130 meg.

Let me know if we can work out a deal...

Kelly.


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 12355
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 02/22/94  1:07a
Subj: Re: Rebel Asault                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

On 18 Feb 94 08:30am, Darren Sellner wrote to All:

>>    Hey,  I want Rebel Asualt < (Please,  if I spelled that wrong 
>>    forgive  me).  If you have it...  Send me mail and  gimme your 
>>    address and how much you want for it,  thanks plenty.

Darren, we have "Rebel Assault" in both OEM or BOXed version. If your
interested, drop us a note via the fidonet address below and we'll be
happy to assist you further.

BTW: Yes, we do ship to Canada and accept Visa/MasterCard as payment
without any surcharge.

Hope this helps..



Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 12356
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/22/94  1:07a
Subj: NEW CD'S                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

$$$$$$$$$$$$ H O T  N E W  CD'S  AND  H O T  N E W  P R I C E S $$$$$$$$$$$$

DeskTop Bookshop $18.  Software Vault Platinum - $18. Tech Arsenal    - $18.
Night Owl 11.0 - $26.  Shareware Trio - 3 cd's - $16. Window Archiver - $13.
OS/2 Comp      - $13.  So-Much-Modem Madness   - $22. Word Perfect    - $13.
PC-Sig 13      - $22.  Pier 3                  - $19. Ham & Scanners  - $13.
Ecstacy (while supply last) - $25.    Nova I or II (adult) bbs ready  - $21.
Women On Wheels (Due Out Soon)- $28.  Kodak Photo CD w/Proccessor     - $35.

     ORDERS ONLY 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759

Boris Osadciw

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From: VIC HLUSHAK                            Number: 12357
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/22/94  5:57a
Subj: Medical CD's                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hi ALL,

I am looking for medical cd's.  I m interested in the kind that doctors
would use in a practise.  If anyone sells this type of cd or know of any
address'smplease leave a msg.

Thanks in advance,



... ..Vic Hlushak..Fort McMurray..Alberta..Canada

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From: WALTER PETROSKY                        Number: 12358
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/22/94  6:20a
Subj: gigabyte gold                           Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

MS>Aside from those, I would say the best ones right now are Cream of the
MS>Crop 2 @ $25.00, Powerbox 2 @ $25.60, Software Vault Platinum @ $19.90,
MS>Pier 3 @ $24.00, and the upcoming Pier 4 @ $29.00.  All are pure 1993
MS>file date CD's, with the exception of SV Platinum which has around 10%
MS>'94 dates, and Pier 4, which is supposed to have around 25% '94 dates.

Great, i think Software Vault Platinum is the the one to get. Sounds
great!

MS>Give me a call and we can fix you up with one!

Well, give me a name and address or number.

Walter

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 12359
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/22/94  9:49a
Subj: New Support BBS                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

We are moving all of our support to Total Access BBS (1-206-472-9884) or
1:138/103. Total Access has a lot of features to offer and sysop is a very nice
person to help to callers. Total Access has 8 lines to serve you.
 
GroupWare
Support BBS: 1-206-472-9884 

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 12360
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/22/94  9:49a
Subj: Fantasie                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

New Adult Interactive Title will be available effective 23 Feb 1994.
 
This title is one of the best one and designed and published by an Hollywood
Firm which has been in the movie industry for years. If you like to order a
copy, please call Stephanie @ 1-800-373-0628 / 1-206-472-1400 or Fax your
orders to 1-800-277-5179 / 1-206-473-1634
 
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409 

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 12361
  To: BRIAN HIPPS                              Date: 02/22/94  7:20a
Subj: CD-ROM Disc's forsale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

BH>THE CONSTITUTION PAPAERS - $10
BH>MAMMALS MULTIMEDIA ENCYCLOPEDIA - $15
BH>WORLD ATLAS MULTIMEDIA (WIN/DOS) - $15
BH>MULTIMEDIA BIRDS OF AMERICA - $15
BH>MULTIMEDIA AUDUBON'S MAMMALS - $15
BH>MACMILLAN DICTIONARY FOR CHILDREN (WIN) - $15
BH>GUINNESS DISC OF RECORDS 92'(WIN/DOS) - $15
BH>WORLD TRAVELER VOL-l - $10

   I will offer you $70 including shipping for all of the above.
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From: BRUCE BUDD                             Number: 12362
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/22/94  1:52p
Subj: Pioneer 6 cd-rom changer                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

        WANTED: 2 Pioneer 600 - 6-cd-rom changers. Preferable used. You can
contact me at Voice 508-373-6809. Leave a msg if you get the answering
machine....
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From: NINO FAGAN                             Number: 12363
  To: TED KIDD                                 Date: 02/22/94  5:05a
Subj: OS/2 2.1 CD-ROM Edition                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

TK>I was told by IBM Sales that it was different.

On occasion IBM is wrong.  They are WRONG with this report.

Perhaps it would be made much clearer if they had named it "OS/2
WITHOUT WINDOWS".

The reason is that the purchaser is supposed to already have Windows
on their machine.  This way they don't have to ship the IBM Windows
with the package and charge more and give a royalty to Microsoft.

The code is the same, except that Windows is not included.  Just some
stuff to glue YOUR copy of Windows to OS/2.  That's all.

Some folks, who don't do Windows at all are buying the OS/2 for Windows
and installing that copy on their machine.  This gives them the full
OS/2 package without any Windows at all on the disk.  Again, this is
why they should have called it OS/2 without Windows.  But then again
all these happy Windows users that are running Windows over OS/2 instead
of over DOS would never have tried the package with a name like
OS/2 without Windows. :)

I hope this clears it up for you.  And getting the CDRom version is
by far easier to load than all those disks.  Be sure to get a driver
for your CDRom if it is not supported.  In the OS/2 echo, tell the
folks what kind of drive you have, the model number, and ask whether
it is supported or the name of the driver and where you can get it.

I have a Toshiba 3401B and an "Adaptec compliant" scsi card and it
loaded up right off the bat.  No problems.

Regards, 
Nino
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From: GARY ACKERMAN                          Number: 12364
  To: LAUREN WOODHAMS                          Date: 02/22/94  6:08a
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

LW>Anyone interested in expanding into CD-ROM and is looking for a CD-ROM
  >drive let me know.  I can give you a quote on a drive and also help out
  >if you are looking for software.
  >--- GOMail v1.1 [DEMO] 02-25-94
  > * Origin:  (1:161/906)

I'm interested in the faster cd-roms with 256k buffers ala toshiba 3401,
chinon 535 or the nec 3xi. internal, no I/F needed. What do you think?
Any other good drives out there?
___
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From: TOM ROSETTI                            Number: 12365
  To: LON ELLIOT                               Date: 02/18/94  8:14a
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

I'd like The Roaring Silence by Manfred Mann.  Have you got that one?

Tom

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From: WALTER GEORGE                          Number: 12366
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 02/19/94  3:13a
Subj: Hitachi 3600's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Do you know anyone looking for genuine Hitachi 8-high stack units? I have nine
brand new ones w/o drives.  (202) 546-1110


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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 12367
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94  4:21p
Subj: Assembler Code on CDROM                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the 8th edition of
its Assembler CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The February 1994 CD-ROM has
452 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 145,000 record PC products database. Voice:+1(301)924-3594,
Fax:+1(301)963-2708.
***  PD/SW Files in the Current ASM Programmer's Library  ***
Array               1  Assembler           4  Bios                4  
Code               11  Comm               19  Compression         2  
Date/Time           2  Debugger            3  Demo                1  
Diagnostic          4  Disassembler       16  Disk I/O           32  
DOS                29  Driver              8  Editor             10  
Environment         2  Format              1  General            17  
Graphics           15  Hardware            3  Interrupt          17  
Keyboard           17  Language Interface 11  Library             9  
Lookup              1  Math               16  Memory             28  
Menu                1  Miscellaneous      14  Mouse               6  
MS Windows          2  Multitask           1  Network             8  
OOP                 1  Patch               2  Print              14  
Protected Mode      5  Reference          25  Screen             11  
Security            1  Shell               1  Sort                1  
Sound               1  Strings             4  Toolkit             2  
TSR                22  Tutorial           10  Utility             1  
Video              17  XASM               19
Total Files in Library:  452
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From: JAY SHILSTONE                          Number: 12368
  To: STEVE KRAISLER                           Date: 02/21/94 10:47a
Subj: street maps                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

SK>I'm interested in maps that "zoom down" to streets.  I've heard of two:
  >Street Atlas and Global Explorer.  Can anyone compare the two and tell me
  >how they differ and why they may prefer one over the other?  Thanks

Global Explorer is an international map program. It is made by the
people who make Street Atlas. Street Atlas has the streets. There are
some others, like SureMaps, that go down to the street level, but for my
money Street Atlas is the best. MapInfo, the high priced spread, runs
about $800 (??) for street level info.

Jay Shilstone
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From: WAYNE MATTHEWS                         Number: 12369
  To: ART MARKO                                Date: 02/23/94  5:57a
Subj: CD TRADES!                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 On 02-18-94 ART MARKO wrote to MARK MONTMINY...  
  
 AM> I have a FAO 2, Ecstacy Hot Pics or XXX Extreme I'd trade for the 7th  
  
Do you want to sell E. Hot Pics?  How much?  I've got Super Smutware to   
trade.  
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From: MIKE AVILA                             Number: 12370
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/22/94  5:36p
Subj: Looking for some CD-ROMS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Looking for the following CD-ROM discs:
 
JFK Assasination
Police Quest: Open Season
Firefighter
 
Questions:  How is the JFK Assaination?  My son is interested in the
assasination.  Good movies and materials?  Education or hype?
 
Can the Police Quest: Open Season be run from the CD adequately?  I
have a 486-33 with a Texel CD-ROM.  Hate to play jumpy games.  Is it a
good game?
 
Is Firefighter a good game?  Again, will it play okay on my system, or,
like Flight Sim do I need a min of a 486-50?
 
Where are the best prices for them?  Will order mailorder for GREAT
prices; must accept VISA; prefer 800 tele #.
 
THANKS for answers and help.
 
Mike
 


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From: STEVE PESANT                           Number: 12371
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/23/94  5:24p
Subj: TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No 

Hi there Mike

I know that on the B.Beauties requires registration for BBS use. = *

But look at your ad again:
           ________________________________________________________
          |                                                        |
          |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #2:  TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES   |
          |________________________________________________________|

                          > = new since last posting

BODACIOUS BEAUTIES * A FULL CD of high-quality .GIF's. *BBS-ready...$34.60
SOFTWARE VAULT PLATINUM * All 93/94 file dates. No dupes to Gold!...$19.90
MONSTER MEDIA VOL 3 * 650mb of files from Sep-Dec 93, w/ book. BBS..$26.40
CURRENT SHAREWARE 94 * Brand new release w/ great manual! BBS.......$27.20
CD POWERBOX 2 * The newest of the new! Current shareware hits. BBS..$25.60

 * = requires registration for BBS use.

Take a quick peak at all those asterix floatin' around on that ad...Now some
poele just may think that ALL of those disks need to be registered!

-=Cheers=-
        Steve.



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From: BILL LUSCOMBE                          Number: 12372
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 02/22/94  8:00p
Subj: Re: comptons int ency                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -=> On 19 Feb 94  20:00:00 Ed Duchek did profusely salivate to bill luscombe
<=-

 ED> but... you requested COD to canada from the US, fraid it cannot be
 ED> done(that I know about).... 

 no problem.

 ED> If you want to pre-pay, I can ship it to you no problem....  will
 ED> probably be a buck or so more, but I will stick with my $38 to your
 ED> door price....  get back with me on what you want to do... my address
 ED> is 8418 forest ridge, san antonio, tx 78239.. drop me a note if you
 ED> are pre-paying, so I can hold one for you. 

Ok. Is this CD for Windows or DOS? I don't run windows. If it is for DOS
I'll ship off the money asap. If it is for windows then I can't use it.
Please reply and we can get this thing settled up. :-) Thanks
Bill



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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 12373
  To: VIC HLUSHAK                              Date: 02/24/94  1:03a
Subj: Medical CD's                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

VH**I am looking for medical cd's.  I m interested in the kind that doctors
VH**would use in a practise.  If anyone sells this type of cd or know of any
VH**address'smplease leave a msg.


Try MicroMedia in Toronto.  Ask for their CD-ROM sales dept., tell them
that HRB Computer Services recommended them to you. Their toll-free #
is 1-800-387-2689 or 416-362-5211 ask for Ms. Curtis at ext. 2150.
Please be sure to mention HRB.

Regards

Hayden Bradshaw
HRB Computer Services
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From: COLIN E. FITZGERALD                    Number: 12374
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94  3:00a
Subj: ***** SONY CDU535 DRIVER NEEDED *****   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

     Hello to all.  I have just started a BBS in Calgary, Alta., and
have purchased a Sony CDU535 Internal CD-ROM drive...second hand.  The
person I bought it off lacked a driver for the CD-ROM, and I cannot find
on.  If anyone out there has a driver for my drive it would be greatly
appreciated.


     My BBS can be reached at (403) 280-8674 (Voice) or 280-2982
(Modem), or if you can tag the file to a return message that would be
greatly appreciated.

                       Thanks, Colin E. Fitzgerald, SysOp


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From: JASON RADFORD                          Number: 12375
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 02/22/94 11:21p
Subj: Re: CDRoms for sale...                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

EB> Aminet June 1993                $12.00  Almost 600 megs of Amiga stuff,
EB>                                         Thousands of GNU apps, C code,
EB>                                         sound files, games, etc...

EB> Garbo May 1992                  $12.00  375+ Megs of MSDOS/MAC from the
EB>                                         Garbo Archive at the University
EB>                                         of Vassa, Finland.


I'm interested in these 2......Is the Garbo a ISO-9660 disk? And if
so does it have files.bbs descriptions in each directory (need to know
that because I'll add it online to my bbs)?.

-Jason

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From: CHUCK SPEAR                            Number: 12376
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 02/23/94 11:52a
Subj: wanted...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

Hello Eric!

22 Feb 94 14:23, Eric Bravick wrote to All Users:

 EB> Anyone got copies of the Toolworks CD Game Packs 1 and/or 2 they
 EB> want to sell at a reasonable rate?  I would like to get ahold of
 EB> one or both.
I have ToolWorks CD game pack II if you want it. Want it trade CDs
instead of setting a price for it?

<<Chuck>>

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From: ROSE CITY                              Number: 12377
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/23/94 10:11a
Subj: Adult CD/Rom Catalog                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
   ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
  Visa, Mastercard Accepted!

  Pacific Data Graphics Inc.

 *    W O R L D      W I D E      S H I P P I N G    *

     Adult Titles (Must state age 18+)
     ---------------------------------
 Adult Reference Library ......31.00    Moving Fantasies..............39
 After Dark Trilogy (Movie)....45.00    Mystique of the Orient (Mov)..46
 All Beauties (New!)...........39.00    Nightwatch Interactive (Mov)..48
 Amateur Models (New!).........39.00    PC-PIX 1......................39
 Animation Fantasies 1.........39.00    PC-PIX 2......................39
 Animation Fantasies 2.........39.00    Phone Sex (WAV recordings)....29
 Asian Ladies..................39.00    Adult Sampler.................19
 Betrayal (Movie)..............55.00    Physical Therapy..............29
 Busty Babes vol 1 rel 3.......44.00    Porkware 1....................39
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......39.00    Porkware 2....................39
 Debbie Does Dallas (Movie)....49.00    Private Collection 1..........39
 Deep Throat (Movie)...........49.00    Private Collection 2..........39
 Digital Dancing (Movie).......51.00    Private Pictures..............39
 Digital Dreams................39.00
 Dirty Talk (Movie)............45.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........39
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............39.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc..........49
 Erotic Encounters 1...........39.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........59
 Erotic Encounters 2 (New!)....39.00    Seymore Butts Interactive (M).59
 Extreme Delights (New!).......39.00    Smutware......................39
 Giffy Gold....................39.00    So Much Stareware.............39
 Girls of Vivid 1 (New!).......49.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......39
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 12378
  To: RANDY NEUNER                             Date: 02/22/94  1:27p
Subj: Adult CD discs to trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

RN>Storm III

I will trade you animation fantasies I for this CD.
 þ SLMR 2.1a þ 

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 12379
  To: JOHN VAN HARE                            Date: 02/23/94 11:06a
Subj: Vivid                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JVH>I see this is a more expensive cd.  Is it all XXX or what?

Yes, it is VERY nice.  All movies, with full digital sound.  The movies
are fairly long, and there are about 10 of them...   Later
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 12380
  To: JASON KIMENKER                           Date: 02/23/94 11:08a
Subj: Adult CD Trades?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

JK>Massive Melons (LBO/ROMSOFT) (Movie)
JK>Dirty Talk (ROMSOFT) (Movie)
JK>Extreme Delights (ROMSOFT) (Pictures/Audio)
JK>Doors of Passion (ROMSOFT) (Interactive Adult Movie)

I'de trade you Animation Fantasies I for any of the above.  Let me
know...                  Shane
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